1 00:00:02,399 --> 00:00:05,609 Balancing the ever tipping scales of Gitmo nation from 2 00:00:05,639 --> 00:00:08,909 opposite corners of the Constitution free zone. This is 3 00:00:08,909 --> 00:00:12,089 no agenda coming to you from Gitmo nation East in the 4 00:00:12,089 --> 00:00:15,419 affluent suburb of Surrey known as Guilford. I'm Adam curry. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,450 And I'm John C. Dvorak. Gitmo nation. North aren't actually 6 00:00:21,450 --> 00:00:24,150 West. I don't know. I'm in Silicon Valley 7 00:00:24,180 --> 00:00:27,330 West, of course. Let's get one. Come on, you should know that. 8 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:30,450 Buying, you know, it changes, it moves around. 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,710 It's a moving target. 10 00:00:31,770 --> 00:00:34,170 It's not going to be Gitmo nation anymore after the 11 00:00:34,170 --> 00:00:34,770 election. 12 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:39,030 Oh, no. What will we have to talk about then? 13 00:00:39,630 --> 00:00:42,000 I don't know. Probably something worse. 14 00:00:42,930 --> 00:00:48,720 No, no, no. It's gone further into good my nation. Hey, it's 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,870 good to be back in the UK back into the new cycle. Boy, is it 16 00:00:51,870 --> 00:00:52,380 different? 17 00:00:53,279 --> 00:00:56,429 Yeah, you you were you were here for a while. And then you came 18 00:00:56,429 --> 00:01:00,119 back? I mean, you like took a couple of trips. And, and the 19 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:04,349 thing was, at the end, we went down to do we discuss the ante. 20 00:01:04,349 --> 00:01:06,509 We talked about chapeau, which will be our last restaurant 21 00:01:06,509 --> 00:01:09,959 review. For those out there who hate the fact that we even 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,279 discussed food, 23 00:01:11,310 --> 00:01:14,010 I'm getting so many positive responses to our food 24 00:01:14,010 --> 00:01:17,250 discussions. And indeed, We have not discussed Chapo which I 25 00:01:17,250 --> 00:01:20,340 would have to say, was one of our better meals. 26 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:26,820 Yes, I would say I agree. And it was reasonably priced. And I got 27 00:01:26,820 --> 00:01:29,700 to have a wine that I haven't had for 20 years. So I thought 28 00:01:29,790 --> 00:01:31,710 before, before we get to that, let's just start at the 29 00:01:31,710 --> 00:01:34,920 beginning. Where we want at the end, the beginning of the end, 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,610 we walk into the joint, and it felt like we had walked in the 31 00:01:38,610 --> 00:01:42,270 back door. Because you're literally the minute you walk 32 00:01:42,270 --> 00:01:45,990 in, you're standing in between two tables. And all the action 33 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:48,300 is at the other side of the room. So I'm like, wow, this is 34 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:48,960 kind of weird. 35 00:01:49,410 --> 00:01:52,800 I'm still wondering whether we did walk back. Yeah, absolutely. 36 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:56,580 That's probably what happened. And we got we got a great seat a 37 00:01:56,580 --> 00:01:59,610 little booth right by the window, which was nice. 38 00:02:00,059 --> 00:02:06,719 There was no it's a weird place. There was no you know, normally 39 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:09,029 in almost every restaurant you go to even if it's a little 40 00:02:09,029 --> 00:02:12,209 place in in the middle of nowhere, France. There's a 41 00:02:12,209 --> 00:02:16,859 little stand someplace where you know, we're you know, to go by 42 00:02:16,859 --> 00:02:20,549 someone's name. Yeah, cuz it's like a little it's like a 43 00:02:20,549 --> 00:02:23,429 podium. And trade. Every restaurant has one that I think 44 00:02:23,429 --> 00:02:27,689 about why Yeah, with. Somebody could keep in the back of their 45 00:02:27,689 --> 00:02:30,479 pocket, you know, the list. But no, yeah, there's usually a 46 00:02:30,479 --> 00:02:34,619 podium and you go to the podium, and yes, yes. What can I do for 47 00:02:34,619 --> 00:02:38,699 you? Well, I have reservation for two and six dirty name. 48 00:02:39,539 --> 00:02:41,489 Dvorak? Oh, yeah. 49 00:02:42,420 --> 00:02:46,170 Question about that, because I've seen you do this a couple 50 00:02:46,170 --> 00:02:48,450 of times now. Because you always take care of the reservations. 51 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,500 And you're walking, you say, Yeah, dinner for two or table 52 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:56,070 for two. You never say, reservation on a Dvorak, you 53 00:02:56,070 --> 00:03:00,540 always say written, you know, dinner for two first. Hey, I do 54 00:03:00,570 --> 00:03:01,530 and in particular reason. 55 00:03:02,220 --> 00:03:04,620 Yeah, I want to see if you can get in without a reservation. 56 00:03:06,090 --> 00:03:08,190 Okay, right back. 57 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,420 I mean, of course, I do it through an open table. So I need 58 00:03:12,420 --> 00:03:14,970 to get those points for the unknown reason. 59 00:03:15,870 --> 00:03:19,980 I'm getting email now from Open Table about points. But I'm 60 00:03:19,980 --> 00:03:23,250 foolish, because for whatever reason, I'm hanging out with you 61 00:03:23,250 --> 00:03:25,290 too much. You're getting all the points. I should look that up. 62 00:03:25,290 --> 00:03:27,030 That was a fascinating email. 63 00:03:28,170 --> 00:03:30,660 Anyway, so yeah, just like people who said, no, no, don't 64 00:03:30,660 --> 00:03:36,750 worry, I'll make the I'll make the reservation. So anyway, no, 65 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:40,350 I usually do that. I always say to I go into I do this. And I by 66 00:03:40,350 --> 00:03:43,140 the way, I've always done this, I go in to see if I just get a 67 00:03:43,140 --> 00:03:46,320 table. So three, and then the and then if there's no tables, 68 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,320 they always said you have a reservation. Now in the case of 69 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:55,470 a situation, we want to get my points. I go in, I go in and ask 70 00:03:55,470 --> 00:03:58,410 if there's a it's kind of nice to know if you can just wander 71 00:03:58,410 --> 00:04:02,370 into a place. So it's one way of finding out anyway, so I go in 72 00:04:02,370 --> 00:04:09,840 there and I say three or two or four, whatever. I have the hope 73 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,540 and they say oh yeah, yeah, we can put you over here. And I say 74 00:04:12,540 --> 00:04:19,170 I have a reservation Oh, yeah. And I search for and I get my 75 00:04:19,170 --> 00:04:21,840 name and then they go back into check it off the box. And you 76 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:24,750 had to he had me as opposed to just taking the table because if 77 00:04:24,750 --> 00:04:27,090 I don't tell him I have a reservation the be this 78 00:04:27,090 --> 00:04:31,410 reservation is still sitting there. And with the name Devorah 79 00:04:31,410 --> 00:04:33,240 icon and I look like a stiff. 80 00:04:33,389 --> 00:04:38,069 So the email I got was open table turns 10 Plus Thanksgiving 81 00:04:38,069 --> 00:04:47,099 specials and 1k points. More points. So it's out. By the way, 82 00:04:47,099 --> 00:04:48,869 please. I'm sorry. Go ahead. 83 00:04:49,949 --> 00:04:54,239 Somebody sent me a note saying you get 50 bucks off on a kind 84 00:04:54,239 --> 00:04:56,549 of you get a coupon at all these restaurants. 85 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,520 We got to redeem that man because this is what 86 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:02,039 happens. Yeah, I haven't gotten to the you need 5000 points for 87 00:05:02,039 --> 00:05:03,389 50 bucks. I'm not there yet. 88 00:05:03,930 --> 00:05:08,190 1000 points. We need to go from one 1k Point restaurants. That's 89 00:05:08,190 --> 00:05:08,640 what we need. I've 90 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,310 only done that once. I've actually tried to slip a couple 91 00:05:11,310 --> 00:05:14,880 1k restaurants in on our little soirees. 92 00:05:15,329 --> 00:05:21,449 I don't recognise any on the list. So what was interesting to 93 00:05:21,449 --> 00:05:24,869 me was that I think it was like a family run restaurant seemed 94 00:05:24,869 --> 00:05:28,499 like a family of what would you say Koreans maybe 95 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,520 look like it but if you look at Alicia to French 96 00:05:36,029 --> 00:05:36,839 Francois 97 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:45,420 Whoo. I'm saying, Yeah. Everybody was there was Asian we 98 00:05:45,420 --> 00:05:47,370 never saw anyone that was an Asian 99 00:05:48,660 --> 00:05:51,570 place was packed. And the service was very interesting 100 00:05:51,570 --> 00:05:56,760 because although efficient, and prompt and attend, they did mess 101 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,340 up a couple things, which was just unnecessary and dumb. 102 00:06:00,389 --> 00:06:03,059 I had a list of four things they screwed up. Alright, let me 103 00:06:03,060 --> 00:06:07,890 see if we if we can knock them off. First of all, there was the 104 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,550 there was just getting the getting situated. Getting 105 00:06:11,550 --> 00:06:13,470 someone over in the beginning took a little long, there was 106 00:06:13,470 --> 00:06:16,260 some confusion some someone came up to take our drink order after 107 00:06:16,260 --> 00:06:19,920 it already been taken. Then we didn't get our palate cleanser, 108 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,110 which we expressly ordered. 109 00:06:22,980 --> 00:06:25,410 Right? They had it this is one of the few restaurants there's a 110 00:06:25,410 --> 00:06:29,430 thing for people out there who really care. There's in higher 111 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:32,550 end rest is not a high end places kind of medium. But in 112 00:06:32,550 --> 00:06:34,230 high end restaurants, they usually give you one of these 113 00:06:34,230 --> 00:06:37,740 things free in their colon entre MA and they're a little piece of 114 00:06:37,740 --> 00:06:40,620 this that usually low sherbert now we're not sure but nothing 115 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:44,760 was milk in it. But like, like a fruit sorbet or something that 116 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,020 just kind of get a lot of acid 117 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:48,750 bloom and onto a mime and dairy. Yeah. 118 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,740 It's got a lot of acid in it supposed to Cleanse the palate 119 00:06:52,740 --> 00:06:55,200 for the next course. And it's gonna this one's 120 00:06:55,500 --> 00:06:57,690 nine bottles. This thing's palate cleanser. 121 00:06:59,070 --> 00:07:01,440 One of the I think it would be funnier to have a restaurant a 122 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,780 palate cleanser, you know, they'd have a Pray that they 123 00:07:03,780 --> 00:07:05,190 come up with a toothbrush. 124 00:07:07,980 --> 00:07:11,970 This restaurant did did have some gimmicks. But anyway, then 125 00:07:11,970 --> 00:07:18,180 they if you would ask for the lamb, I'm going to say rare. And 126 00:07:18,180 --> 00:07:24,030 I had asked for the beef medium. And although I did get the beef 127 00:07:24,030 --> 00:07:28,020 and you did get the lamb, they made the beef medium and the 128 00:07:28,470 --> 00:07:30,330 hour the beef rare and the lamb medium. 129 00:07:30,779 --> 00:07:34,259 Yes. Which was annoying, to say the least on why bitched on what 130 00:07:34,289 --> 00:07:41,609 Yeah. And it wasn't bad but the but it was the Lamb you know, 131 00:07:41,609 --> 00:07:43,739 she did lamb should have been ready. Actually, the beef was 132 00:07:43,739 --> 00:07:45,989 good because it was ready. I don't know why you keep ordering 133 00:07:45,989 --> 00:07:48,089 medium. Well, 134 00:07:48,119 --> 00:07:49,109 I don't like prayer. 135 00:07:49,980 --> 00:07:52,860 Q ate the thing up like you were just, I'm surprised you didn't 136 00:07:52,860 --> 00:07:53,790 use me. You know, excuse 137 00:07:53,790 --> 00:07:56,760 me. I didn't finish it. And I said here would you like this? I 138 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,630 can't finish it. Okay, because it was just like grossed me out. 139 00:08:00,780 --> 00:08:04,410 I didn't want to say hey, I'm really grossed out by this piece 140 00:08:04,410 --> 00:08:07,980 of rotting flesh bloody flesh on my plate. Would you like to 141 00:08:07,980 --> 00:08:11,010 harsh that down? And you always would do or you always do. Hey, 142 00:08:11,820 --> 00:08:15,270 could you put this in? In a box for my dog? I really do have a 143 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:18,420 dog and then I'll put the bread in there. And you like taking 144 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:20,610 everything off the table. Hey, this scrap here. Wait a minute. 145 00:08:20,610 --> 00:08:23,850 Wait. There's a crumbling give that put in there. And I'm like, 146 00:08:23,850 --> 00:08:26,010 Yeah, put the salt and pepper shakers in there. Go ahead, man 147 00:08:26,010 --> 00:08:26,700 put on the box. 148 00:08:26,730 --> 00:08:29,520 They don't by the way. They don't do that doggie bags in 149 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,750 Europe. No, do not try this in Europe. Do not try this in 150 00:08:33,750 --> 00:08:38,340 Europe. But I do have a dog. And we feed we feed our dogs, all of 151 00:08:38,340 --> 00:08:43,980 them scraps as much as we can or we make our own dog food. And so 152 00:08:43,980 --> 00:08:47,490 I'm not lying. I'm not taking that food home to eat it was 153 00:08:47,490 --> 00:08:52,440 overcooked. And but here's the thing you didn't know I didn't 154 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,020 tell you this. They didn't put anything in there except the one 155 00:08:55,020 --> 00:08:55,740 piece of meat. 156 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:58,740 They didn't put the bread in you asked you expressly as for the 157 00:08:58,740 --> 00:09:03,030 bread. Exactly. What a cheap bastards. Right? They just it 158 00:09:03,030 --> 00:09:04,890 was I think that just fell off the list. 159 00:09:05,970 --> 00:09:08,340 When I mean it's just like they were they're careless. It was a 160 00:09:08,340 --> 00:09:11,760 garrulous, the service was extremely careless. 161 00:09:12,509 --> 00:09:15,929 But the food made up for it and what really the appetiser when 162 00:09:15,929 --> 00:09:18,779 you talk about that about that for a second appetiser we had. 163 00:09:19,109 --> 00:09:22,379 Do we have two separate appetisers and then a I think, 164 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,189 what did I have John? We had something in the middle to 165 00:09:27,900 --> 00:09:32,010 I don't remember. Okay, the most random sort of salad or 166 00:09:32,010 --> 00:09:32,490 something? 167 00:09:33,870 --> 00:09:36,750 Here, but it was good. It was good. Crowd the 168 00:09:36,750 --> 00:09:41,130 appetisers. Were good. Yeah. But not barely not memorable. 169 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:47,640 So the wine though this was this was a funny moment where you had 170 00:09:47,730 --> 00:09:51,510 found what you would call a gem and I'll let you expand on what 171 00:09:51,510 --> 00:09:57,780 it was in a second. And so the waiter comes over and say hey, 172 00:09:57,780 --> 00:10:01,470 this is really amazing that this wine is on The menu you can't 173 00:10:01,470 --> 00:10:04,440 get this anywhere the guy's like, got it and then you went 174 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:05,550 took it one step further. So 175 00:10:05,550 --> 00:10:06,420 the guy made it then. 176 00:10:08,069 --> 00:10:11,909 No, no, the snide comment came after that because he was being 177 00:10:11,909 --> 00:10:15,239 nice at first and then he went, look, I can't get this anywhere 178 00:10:15,239 --> 00:10:18,029 in San Francisco. And then the guy said, Well, maybe you need 179 00:10:18,029 --> 00:10:23,849 to find a better place. tripped me out and, like snap. You had 180 00:10:23,849 --> 00:10:24,779 nothing to say. 181 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,970 I didn't have a comeback. Zero. 182 00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:30,300 You couldn't really say you Korean fuck. Who do you think 183 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:30,660 you are? 184 00:10:32,910 --> 00:10:37,740 Well, I did some research. Yeah, the wine is not available. 185 00:10:38,970 --> 00:10:40,350 But Where'd he get it from then? 186 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:44,460 I was just some distributor came through town. They sold them, 187 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,400 you know, half the wine list and but none of them none of the 188 00:10:47,940 --> 00:10:51,510 local stores habit. You know, I looked it up on the internet as 189 00:10:51,510 --> 00:10:53,400 a matter of fact, as hard this stuff's hard to find. It's been 190 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,480 hard to find for years. 191 00:10:54,570 --> 00:10:57,570 Okay, so tell tell the audience what it was. There was a 192 00:10:57,570 --> 00:11:01,530 chateau canon from Canon France. Sacher wasn't from Santa Miyan. 193 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,330 And it was a it was a 2005. And it's I think that it's, it's one 194 00:11:06,330 --> 00:11:08,970 of these, I think, from the new owners. I think it's been I 195 00:11:08,970 --> 00:11:11,400 think the ownerships been changed, although I wouldn't 196 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,730 know because you never see this wine. You see a lot of other 197 00:11:14,730 --> 00:11:18,090 fronts, X and Canon Francaise, which is a very specific area of 198 00:11:18,090 --> 00:11:21,390 Bordeaux, this used to be extremely popular, apparently, 199 00:11:21,390 --> 00:11:24,480 at least if you read the literature in the 1600s, or 200 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,570 something like that, because it's a little closer to Paris. 201 00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:32,280 But I've always liked these wines from this area, because 202 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,910 they have a distinctive flavour that's kind of unique and tasty. 203 00:11:36,210 --> 00:11:40,410 And canon is essentially their Chateau that they named the 204 00:11:40,410 --> 00:11:45,000 subdivision can in France sack after because it was so good. 205 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:46,890 And in fact, the way it was tasty, 206 00:11:47,130 --> 00:11:51,600 was outstanding and a great value. It was I believe, $60 for 207 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,710 the bottle. Yeah, was 208 00:11:52,710 --> 00:11:57,060 60 bucks. You know, if that's if you if we were in Paris, that 209 00:11:57,060 --> 00:11:58,740 wine would have been probably 100. 210 00:12:01,140 --> 00:12:03,720 And by the way, when I say a reasonable price, that's all 211 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,010 relative, obviously, 212 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,850 it for these restaurants, that's a very good deal. Because for 213 00:12:08,850 --> 00:12:11,550 people out there who you know, wondering why that's pretty 214 00:12:11,550 --> 00:12:16,830 high. I only pay eight. But the fact is the restaurants we've 215 00:12:16,830 --> 00:12:22,350 been going to until we downgraded downgraded Oh my 216 00:12:22,350 --> 00:12:26,430 goodness. Until we downgraded it was like pulling teeth to find a 217 00:12:26,430 --> 00:12:28,320 way under $100. 218 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:34,650 The total bill for this, I believe, was $230. about as 219 00:12:34,650 --> 00:12:36,780 expensive as the other restaurant with the previous one 220 00:12:36,780 --> 00:12:37,410 we went to, 221 00:12:37,830 --> 00:12:40,200 right which was which actually, I think it was a little cheaper 222 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,480 and the restaurant this restaurant was, which was Eisah 223 00:12:42,630 --> 00:12:46,140 I think it was a little better. And then we did it wasn't like a 224 00:12:46,620 --> 00:12:48,180 tune up. You 225 00:12:48,180 --> 00:12:50,160 thought you thought Eisah was better than Tshepo 226 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,060 No, no, Tshepo was better. I said it was better and cheaper 227 00:12:54,090 --> 00:12:58,890 is what I'm trying to get to. And and for people out there you 228 00:12:58,890 --> 00:13:02,250 know 250 bucks, just one this meal had it. We didn't there 229 00:13:02,250 --> 00:13:04,500 wasn't anything that we didn't do, except that we didn't have 230 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:07,320 any after dinner drinks. Although I think we had a white 231 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,810 wine or white wine to start with. 232 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:12,240 We had a white wine to start with a full bottle of wine and 233 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,880 everything we had an after dinner shot turn or something. 234 00:13:14,910 --> 00:13:19,680 Oh, and of course the PS the rest is stones. Exactly. Which 235 00:13:19,710 --> 00:13:24,570 just blew us both away the desserts. I think you get this 236 00:13:24,570 --> 00:13:25,140 sorbet. 237 00:13:25,770 --> 00:13:30,300 Away to the resistance for me was the guy slipping us a saw 238 00:13:30,300 --> 00:13:34,350 turn that wasn't the one we ordered. Oh, yeah. True. Another 239 00:13:34,350 --> 00:13:38,160 faux pas Yes. Places things. These guys have a lot of a lot 240 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,520 of emails. 241 00:13:38,730 --> 00:13:41,880 A lot of guys. Go back there and say you know what? You know, we 242 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,040 thought you were pretty good. But you're off the list now. 243 00:13:45,270 --> 00:13:46,980 Sure, visitors screw ups. 244 00:13:48,540 --> 00:13:51,450 Very cute. At the end there though. They give you a little 245 00:13:51,450 --> 00:13:55,680 hat. Of course. Chapeau being French for hat. And your bill is 246 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:57,330 in there. I want to take a company 247 00:13:59,010 --> 00:14:00,600 hat it's an actual hat. That 248 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,620 was a real hat. What was what was just awesome. Was the the 249 00:14:04,620 --> 00:14:05,220 one desert 250 00:14:06,060 --> 00:14:08,160 you want to take a dump and is that what you're saying? 251 00:14:08,190 --> 00:14:12,570 Yeah, when I saw that one. I was a little annoyed by the service 252 00:14:12,570 --> 00:14:15,810 but it evened out because the food was so good. And at the end 253 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:21,750 let me get through it. I had a banana strawberry kiwi, kind of 254 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:27,390 mash up. But what they've done is they kind of floated that in 255 00:14:27,390 --> 00:14:33,060 basil oil and it was an outstanding combination. 256 00:14:35,910 --> 00:14:38,220 I'm glad you remembered that because I actually forgot it but 257 00:14:38,220 --> 00:14:41,970 now that you mentioned it, I was stunned by this dessert. It was 258 00:14:41,970 --> 00:14:45,150 one of the tastiest things, combinations of flavours but 259 00:14:45,150 --> 00:14:46,740 anyway we had we're talking about we're talking about 260 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:51,000 classic like you know combinations of like a custard a 261 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,590 banana strawberry something else that but with this basil oil. It 262 00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:59,130 just took distinct to another dimension for some reason it was 263 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,020 absolutely It's phenomenal. 264 00:15:01,050 --> 00:15:05,220 And basil, you know, I associate that with some Italian dishes 265 00:15:05,220 --> 00:15:09,510 certainly more hearty. Not something sweet. And but but 266 00:15:09,510 --> 00:15:12,360 when you combine it with those other sweet fruits it is I mean, 267 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,510 it's absolutely heavenly. I mean, yeah, I 268 00:15:15,510 --> 00:15:21,510 mean, I was I was I was stunned. So anyway, that's a review of 269 00:15:21,510 --> 00:15:25,680 chapeau in San Francisco if you haven't be going by when you go 270 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,720 in if anyone comes in San Francisco, 271 00:15:28,379 --> 00:15:30,359 tell them DeVore Accenture. Now. 272 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:33,900 I understand your service is kind of crappy, although your 273 00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:35,970 food's good. Yeah. Hey, let 274 00:15:35,970 --> 00:15:40,920 me take a dump and that hat of yours are you getting? I don't 275 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:45,690 know either. I'm all alone. I came home. Check this out, man. 276 00:15:45,690 --> 00:15:49,590 So it's been it's like being on tour. For three weeks in San 277 00:15:49,590 --> 00:15:52,650 Francisco. Then we I rushed back to the, you know, the surprise 278 00:15:52,650 --> 00:15:56,400 party in Amsterdam, then flew out almost a day after we got 279 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,050 back in for another full week in San Francisco, Los Angeles. And 280 00:16:01,050 --> 00:16:04,590 I come home and I've delayed flights until I'm home late, and 281 00:16:04,860 --> 00:16:08,220 everyone's kind of getting ready because Patricia, Christina and 282 00:16:08,340 --> 00:16:11,160 Dexter Christina's boyfriend, they all went to Holland 283 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,250 yesterday. So I've been home alone for two days. Me and the 284 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:19,530 admin. The stuff that piles up in a few weeks time is just so 285 00:16:19,740 --> 00:16:23,490 and not just frightening but annoying. It's like an 286 00:16:23,490 --> 00:16:24,480 albatross. 287 00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:27,720 Like, what what are you talking about? It's just stacks and 288 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,020 stacks of envelopes that have to be opened and dealt with. And 289 00:16:31,020 --> 00:16:34,350 it's amazing because when I go through it the actual signal to 290 00:16:34,350 --> 00:16:38,070 noise ratio is very low. I mean get this you know, there's like 291 00:16:38,070 --> 00:16:44,670 basic utilities, a couple of bills, but honestly 150 292 00:16:44,670 --> 00:16:48,840 envelopes and it's all kinds of bullshit that really doesn't 293 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:52,710 need any attention at all is you know overkill and you have to 294 00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:55,380 wade through all of it. Ah, I hate it 295 00:16:56,129 --> 00:16:58,259 you know what's interesting is I thought this was supposed to be 296 00:16:58,259 --> 00:17:01,799 eliminated by electronic email and things like that. Oh, it's 297 00:17:01,799 --> 00:17:03,119 junk mail but you're talking about 298 00:17:03,300 --> 00:17:07,920 it well it's not even junk mail it's just the vendors that I do 299 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,440 business with one way or the other beat the banks of the 300 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,040 banks are the worst they send you so much crap it's like no 301 00:17:14,220 --> 00:17:17,700 get get a clue already. I'm not going to take the credit card 302 00:17:17,700 --> 00:17:26,250 I'm not going to take your insurance in the in the UK is 303 00:17:26,250 --> 00:17:28,230 this the same in the states where you pay for the water 304 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:30,570 coming out of the tap and you also have to pay for the amount 305 00:17:30,570 --> 00:17:32,250 of water that goes down the drain? 306 00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:36,330 I don't know that we well we there's a sewage tax but that's 307 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,570 no this is not a tax they actually measure or they sound 308 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,420 they measure how much water you flushed 309 00:17:42,510 --> 00:17:45,090 don't even you shouldn't even mentioned it now that I think 310 00:17:45,090 --> 00:17:49,260 about it. Yeah. We'll just say hey, there's a good idea 311 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,250 paying for it both ways. And I never heard of such a thing how 312 00:17:53,250 --> 00:17:56,340 do you measure it? Let me let me go grab a bill let me see what 313 00:17:56,340 --> 00:17:57,030 they say hold on. 314 00:17:57,329 --> 00:18:00,899 Do they have a metre on your on your outflow? 315 00:18:01,710 --> 00:18:05,010 I have a metre on my ass they can see how much is coming out 316 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:06,540 how much farting are you doing 317 00:18:12,329 --> 00:18:16,559 let me see they metre everything for carbon credit here 318 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,220 it is here it is check it out. So services your water services 319 00:18:20,220 --> 00:18:27,480 bill for 15th April 2008 to two October 2008 191 pounds 80 320 00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:29,250 consisting of water 321 00:18:30,839 --> 00:18:34,409 right Wait wait wait, wait, wait, wait. Yes. What's the 322 00:18:34,409 --> 00:18:37,949 period of time for 191 pounds which to us Americans is about 323 00:18:37,949 --> 00:18:39,059 $350 324 00:18:39,150 --> 00:18:40,950 April to October 325 00:18:42,030 --> 00:18:45,060 April May and June. So a six month bill 326 00:18:45,089 --> 00:18:56,579 six month bill okay in that time 100 Oh interesting. This is an 327 00:18:56,579 --> 00:18:59,429 adjuster This isn't man I gotta go check my metre. So here it 328 00:18:59,429 --> 00:19:00,239 is. They 329 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:05,910 This is how do they know well they basically say okay, you the 330 00:19:05,910 --> 00:19:09,030 estimate that you use, you know they do that where you get an 331 00:19:09,030 --> 00:19:12,150 estimated charge and then you know when you move then they 332 00:19:12,570 --> 00:19:17,850 throw a $20,000 bill and yeah. So they say well, we estimate in 333 00:19:17,850 --> 00:19:27,810 that period you use 100 cubic metres of water at 107 pence per 334 00:19:28,740 --> 00:19:33,240 cubic metre. Wow. So that's 118 pounds and then they say Well 335 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:38,880 since you use the 100 cubic metres your wastewater was also 336 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,690 100 cubic metres 51 pounds pen that's just 337 00:19:42,690 --> 00:19:47,820 basically doubling this is chicken. Isn't that horrible? By 338 00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:50,370 the way, what if you just drank all the water and peed 339 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,210 elsewhere? 340 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:58,470 I bet I can prove it. I can prove I use that water and I 341 00:19:58,470 --> 00:20:01,650 passed it down someone else's toilet Got to compensate him and 342 00:20:01,650 --> 00:20:02,430 Bill him more. 343 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,810 Could be can happen. 344 00:20:07,170 --> 00:20:08,250 Get mo nation. 345 00:20:09,630 --> 00:20:13,230 Well, that's pretty ridiculous. Yeah. How can the English public 346 00:20:13,230 --> 00:20:14,550 put up with this crap? 347 00:20:14,609 --> 00:20:18,359 Well, it's funny using you mentioned that because they're 348 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,169 the English public has snapped. I came back and the whole 349 00:20:22,169 --> 00:20:26,189 country is in an uproar. I'd already read about it. You know, 350 00:20:26,189 --> 00:20:28,379 the last day I was in Los Angeles before I got on the 351 00:20:28,379 --> 00:20:32,819 plane. I was like, What the hell was going on? An absolute 352 00:20:32,849 --> 00:20:36,779 uproar. I'm talking about 10 minutes, a 10 minute long 353 00:20:36,809 --> 00:20:41,939 discussion items. Reporters live on the scene. At the top of the 354 00:20:41,939 --> 00:20:45,629 news, the 10 o'clock BBC News, not ITV or channel four, but the 355 00:20:45,629 --> 00:20:50,279 BBC News. All the news outlets were doing it. The BBC 24 News 356 00:20:50,279 --> 00:20:56,759 Channel. These two, two presenters, one of them, you 357 00:20:56,759 --> 00:21:01,109 probably know both of them. One is Russell Brand. He's he's the 358 00:21:01,109 --> 00:21:04,229 guy who hosted the MTV awards. He's an English comedian. He's 359 00:21:04,229 --> 00:21:08,969 also in that movie. Forgetting Sarah, I think it's called kind 360 00:21:08,969 --> 00:21:11,369 of rock and roll looking guy. It looks a bit like Michael Butler. 361 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:17,459 Okay. And Jonathan Ross, who is of course, you know, the top 362 00:21:17,459 --> 00:21:20,219 talk show host has his Friday night show makes 6 million 363 00:21:20,219 --> 00:21:24,029 pounds a year Jonathan Ross is the highest I think the highest 364 00:21:24,029 --> 00:21:27,869 paid quote entertainer on the BBC. And of course, the BBC is 365 00:21:27,869 --> 00:21:30,989 publicly funded, though people are always bitching about it. 366 00:21:31,409 --> 00:21:34,949 And Russell Brand is also a reasonably I think he's up there 367 00:21:34,949 --> 00:21:39,299 in salary. But anyway, they they made they did a show together I 368 00:21:39,329 --> 00:21:41,999 think it was Russell Brand show and Jonathan Ross came on and 369 00:21:42,269 --> 00:21:45,389 you know, the here two guys who probably off the radio that 370 00:21:45,389 --> 00:21:47,099 really funny together because it's probably really good 371 00:21:47,099 --> 00:21:49,319 friends. But then they got together and it just became a 372 00:21:49,379 --> 00:21:54,389 trumping one doing crazier than the other. And they called up an 373 00:21:54,389 --> 00:22:01,679 actor Andrew Sachs, who was Manuel in Fawlty Towers. And you 374 00:22:01,679 --> 00:22:04,349 know, and so they're just talking trash into his into his 375 00:22:04,349 --> 00:22:07,559 voicemail because the guy didn't pick up. And then at one point, 376 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:10,469 Jonathan Ross says, well, and He literally says this, he says, 377 00:22:10,469 --> 00:22:12,809 oh, go ahead, Russell, just tell them that you fucked his 378 00:22:12,809 --> 00:22:17,489 granddaughter, which apparently is true. And then it just went 379 00:22:18,209 --> 00:22:21,869 downhill from there. Right. So if anything, that should be an 380 00:22:21,869 --> 00:22:24,719 outrage, because it was not funny, it was just dumb. But 381 00:22:24,719 --> 00:22:29,789 this has resulted in a huge, I mean, just John astronomical 382 00:22:29,819 --> 00:22:34,979 front page of the Financial Times, even the BBC, it's gone 383 00:22:34,979 --> 00:22:38,429 too far. And this has to stop and Russell Brand resigned, 384 00:22:38,429 --> 00:22:41,699 Jonathan Ross, you know, suspended for 12 weeks without 385 00:22:41,699 --> 00:22:46,169 pay. You know, the Director General had to give public 386 00:22:46,169 --> 00:22:49,259 statements and everyone's and now what's happening, they're 387 00:22:49,259 --> 00:22:53,279 saying, well, the BBC clearly needs more and tighter editorial 388 00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:56,369 controls, it's really amazing to see what's happening. So from 389 00:22:56,369 --> 00:23:00,779 two ends, one, the public that they're so frustrated and angry 390 00:23:00,779 --> 00:23:03,989 that he was an opportunity, I believe, you know, to yell at 391 00:23:04,169 --> 00:23:06,719 him, because basically, Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand are 392 00:23:06,719 --> 00:23:09,509 public servants. If you look at it, the way the payments are 393 00:23:09,509 --> 00:23:13,889 structured to the BBC, to just get pissed off, like they were 394 00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:18,689 like, they were bank executives getting bailed out, you know, 395 00:23:18,689 --> 00:23:21,269 it's just huge outrage. 396 00:23:21,809 --> 00:23:24,599 So basically, are you telling me that there was a pent up 397 00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:26,909 hostility towards the BBC? 398 00:23:27,660 --> 00:23:30,600 I think towards authority in general and perhaps in 399 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:35,220 particular, people who are doing quite well doing seemingly 400 00:23:35,220 --> 00:23:39,990 nothing but then was 401 00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:41,460 everybody in broadcasting 402 00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:44,580 exactly but so now what's happened on the on the political 403 00:23:44,580 --> 00:23:48,000 side is it's it's really being I can see it happening they're 404 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,350 grasping this it's like we need stricter editorial controls and 405 00:23:52,350 --> 00:23:55,080 you know what that does to the DNA of a broadcast company makes 406 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,900 everyone's afraid to say anything bright and ruins 407 00:23:57,900 --> 00:24:01,860 everything Yeah. And so the the BBC was just basically you know, 408 00:24:01,860 --> 00:24:05,820 if you believe in Nomi Wolf's Shock Doctrine theory, then wow, 409 00:24:05,820 --> 00:24:07,770 they got it they got a club and on this one 410 00:24:09,329 --> 00:24:15,779 well, you know, the BBC has been pretty I mean, they've been it's 411 00:24:15,779 --> 00:24:19,139 been a weird operation for the last number of years in terms of 412 00:24:19,139 --> 00:24:24,899 its politics have been extremely politically slanted. No kidding. 413 00:24:25,469 --> 00:24:29,519 And I don't know that the public you know, suddenly we have one 414 00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:33,269 of our talk show right wing talk show characters actually is more 415 00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:39,539 of a libertarian type, I guess, but who's popular successful is 416 00:24:39,539 --> 00:24:44,639 is Michael Savage. And he has a thesis that and of course, 417 00:24:44,669 --> 00:24:47,849 anyone who listens to the show knows that I you to a lesser 418 00:24:47,849 --> 00:24:53,429 extent, but you know, right wing talk shows are extremely popular 419 00:24:53,429 --> 00:24:57,899 and well produced and it's a shame that the liberals don't 420 00:24:57,899 --> 00:25:00,479 listen to them because there's a lot of besides A lot of 421 00:25:00,479 --> 00:25:04,619 learning, learning. Yeah. Well, it's not learning as much as 422 00:25:04,619 --> 00:25:08,189 interesting perspectives that need to be addressed. He has 423 00:25:08,189 --> 00:25:11,279 this thesis that the reason that American newspapers are doing so 424 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:14,669 bad in terms of they're losing, they just keep losing 425 00:25:14,669 --> 00:25:18,119 circulation. And he went through all the numbers over the last 426 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,579 quarter mean every no matter even the times, everybody's just 427 00:25:20,579 --> 00:25:22,949 like losing numbers like there's no tomorrow, don't read these 428 00:25:22,949 --> 00:25:26,699 things. And the public is getting tired of it. And I think 429 00:25:26,699 --> 00:25:30,329 is a lot of it has to do with what came out in a Pew Research 430 00:25:30,329 --> 00:25:34,649 Report. That's showing the doing an analysis of every story 431 00:25:34,649 --> 00:25:38,939 written about the Obama and McCain campaign with, you know, 432 00:25:38,969 --> 00:25:40,949 even though we already we already knew this, even though 433 00:25:40,949 --> 00:25:43,919 there was some denial for a few years into the denials went 434 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:47,789 away, which is that the media is extremely liberal. And the Pew 435 00:25:47,789 --> 00:25:51,659 Research report showed that, you know, 80% of the Obama stories 436 00:25:51,659 --> 00:25:55,349 were positive about Obama and 20% of the McCain stories were 437 00:25:55,349 --> 00:25:58,979 positive about McCain. And it was avert, we're not talking 438 00:25:58,979 --> 00:26:03,029 about something that was like mild, he was overt up, you know, 439 00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:06,749 positive writing about one guy and overt negative writing, you 440 00:26:06,750 --> 00:26:11,040 know what? I'd call this, John, because I totally agree with, 441 00:26:11,490 --> 00:26:13,890 with what's taking what you're saying is taking place. And 442 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,860 really when you look at it, the elite, I call them the, you 443 00:26:16,860 --> 00:26:21,300 know, the elitist media. And we're definitely part of us is 444 00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:25,050 elitist, which isn't really West Coast, East Coast, it talks to a 445 00:26:25,050 --> 00:26:28,170 very small audience. This is the Jon Stewart show has a very 446 00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:32,670 small audience, but much, much smaller than the NASCAR country 447 00:26:32,670 --> 00:26:37,050 in Western media, what I call it, which is Rush Limbaugh or 448 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,130 many other forms of news and entertainment, which is meant 449 00:26:41,130 --> 00:26:45,450 for a broad audience, as a broadcaster was hammered into me 450 00:26:45,450 --> 00:26:48,780 go broad go broad, because you will wind up with no audience. 451 00:26:48,780 --> 00:26:51,150 And I believe that's what's happening to these newspapers. 452 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:55,859 That's his theory. That's my theory. And eight Well, it's his 453 00:26:55,859 --> 00:26:58,079 theory too. So you're in agreement you should get should 454 00:26:58,079 --> 00:27:02,729 get together for a drink. Anyway, the point is, is that, 455 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:05,549 you know, the public, hey, you 456 00:27:05,549 --> 00:27:07,229 wouldn't be jealous, if I got together with them and 457 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,750 get them out, get an autograph. Anyway, to get a free book from 458 00:27:12,750 --> 00:27:16,290 the guy who's always given his books away. So anyway, the point 459 00:27:16,290 --> 00:27:20,160 is, is that the audience can only put up with so much of it 460 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,250 because they have an opinion. And they just keep having this 461 00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:28,470 stuff thrown in their face. It just, you know, constantly. A 462 00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:32,370 lot of it's just Bs, and you can tell and you know it after a 463 00:27:32,370 --> 00:27:35,340 while, I mean, you just sense it, the public is becoming more 464 00:27:35,790 --> 00:27:38,700 becoming like Russia, you know, where they were the population 465 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:43,020 before the effect to this day, they're extremely sceptical of 466 00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:47,550 any kind of reporting. Any you know, you have a public that's 467 00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:50,310 so sceptical because the media is not really doing his job. 468 00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:54,210 It's just promoting its personal agenda, even though they deny it 469 00:27:54,210 --> 00:27:57,390 because oh, we're we're supposed to be so objective. But the fact 470 00:27:57,390 --> 00:28:00,060 of the matter is, you know, it's all my little all be like 471 00:28:00,090 --> 00:28:03,330 democracy now, where they might where they just at least, let 472 00:28:03,330 --> 00:28:07,080 you know where they stand up front. Yeah. I mean, it's 473 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,490 nobody's fooling anybody with that show. And instead of trying 474 00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:14,490 to trick you, and I think the public resents it at some point 475 00:28:14,490 --> 00:28:16,350 they're there they get sick of it or they sell or they just get 476 00:28:16,350 --> 00:28:21,090 tired of it. And I don't know and then the news choices of 477 00:28:21,090 --> 00:28:25,080 course, which is what you have you listened to the the right if 478 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,390 you want to call them right wing philosophers, but the people 479 00:28:27,390 --> 00:28:31,080 that are conservative that took over the country for a while 480 00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:35,130 they had this thing which I always thought Richard viguerie, 481 00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:39,000 who is one of the great direct marketing people and but he does 482 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,090 mostly political stuff in history, wrote a bunch of books 483 00:28:42,090 --> 00:28:44,310 he writes, he tells you how to do all this stuff and do these 484 00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:47,730 guys a lot of people have great skills and I have to do is read 485 00:28:47,730 --> 00:28:52,530 their book, and you get all the tips you can do it to vagary 486 00:28:52,530 --> 00:28:55,440 says that, and I always agreed with this, he says, it's not so 487 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,350 much the way they write the stories. It's the stories that 488 00:28:58,350 --> 00:29:03,030 decide to cover, of course, and we run into that, in fact, I 489 00:29:03,030 --> 00:29:08,520 have a blog and all the guys all my other editors had that blog 490 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,630 there, you know, it's called, you know, underreported news a 491 00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:15,870 with a subhead, why, ask yourself why you're reading this 492 00:29:15,870 --> 00:29:19,050 on a blog. And there'll be a lot of scandalous and interesting 493 00:29:19,050 --> 00:29:22,380 stories that you just read is almost impossible to find many 494 00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:24,870 of them covered in the European newspapers and completely 495 00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:26,190 avoided here. Yeah. 496 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,920 No, it's true. And although I have, you know, I'm just 497 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,740 imagining a little bit of this, you know, our numbers are 498 00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:37,620 shooting through the roof. I think people are slowly 499 00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:41,640 switching on to the idea that there is some alternative out 500 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,430 there and there are other smart people. And we're starting to 501 00:29:44,430 --> 00:29:47,070 brand ourselves appropriately and people are picking up on 502 00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:49,470 more information and there's more choices. There's more 503 00:29:49,470 --> 00:29:52,950 angles, you can look at things from so you can start to define 504 00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:58,740 your own opinion. But yeah, the it's, it's so obvious when you 505 00:29:58,740 --> 00:30:03,150 come from abroad. have cast background like yourself and I, 506 00:30:04,020 --> 00:30:07,380 you know when you know how it works and you know, play the 507 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,050 actually I was talking to Ron about this because he was 508 00:30:10,050 --> 00:30:13,440 showing Auggie, his son who's 26 He was saying play the flashback 509 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,580 game. And so he loads up Fox News on one channel, then, you 510 00:30:17,580 --> 00:30:21,120 know, loads of CNN on the other hand flashes back and forth with 511 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,930 the last channel. And then all of a sudden becomes apparent. 512 00:30:24,930 --> 00:30:27,480 Hey, wait a minute, these guys are all hyping up Obama and 513 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,310 those guys are all hyping up McCain. And only when you see it 514 00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:35,430 in that context, does it really start to dawn on you, when most 515 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:38,190 people don't realise this is taking place and don't realise 516 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,620 how it really works, you know, the ownership structure, which, 517 00:30:43,770 --> 00:30:47,010 you know, there's rarely a guy sitting in a room with a white 518 00:30:47,010 --> 00:30:52,800 cat going for, you know, turn up the Obama, that kind of, it 519 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,190 trickles down through the big lever, yeah, trickles down 520 00:30:56,190 --> 00:30:59,190 through the DNA of a company. And if you've worked in any type 521 00:30:59,190 --> 00:31:02,220 of media organisation, you know what this is like, Oh, we don't 522 00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:04,920 do that here. We don't talk about that here. No, that's not 523 00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:09,240 really what they want is a very mystical day. And I've always 524 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,060 had who's they get they on the phone? Because I got a question. 525 00:31:12,090 --> 00:31:16,950 No, no. Kid, by the way, usually gets you fired. 526 00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:22,200 Well, yeah, that you become you become the what was that movie 527 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,800 with Tom Cruise that he played the sports agent? Turning 528 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,450 Maguire? Yeah. Maguire is actually if people haven't seen 529 00:31:30,450 --> 00:31:33,630 that movie, you should review or people who ask you, you should 530 00:31:33,630 --> 00:31:37,500 revisit it because it only for the beginning. Because the guys 531 00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:42,690 is gung ho superstar. And he decides to stupidly reveal a 532 00:31:42,690 --> 00:31:45,600 memo that he wrote showing you some of the ways that they can 533 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:52,740 improve the company. Big mistake, and he's out. You 534 00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:55,920 always have to be careful because the companies are 535 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,610 corporate that mean corporate cultures are our animals. 536 00:31:59,970 --> 00:32:00,270 They're 537 00:32:00,299 --> 00:32:03,029 they'll, they'll say, shred you and spit you out. 538 00:32:03,780 --> 00:32:07,140 They exist on their own. And what's what's interesting to me 539 00:32:07,140 --> 00:32:10,590 about the newspaper situation, which I think is not discussed 540 00:32:10,590 --> 00:32:13,800 much, but I should remember because I used to be, you know, 541 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,700 here we go. Yeah. 542 00:32:14,730 --> 00:32:16,770 Wait a minute. You used to be Lou Grant. 543 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,980 I used to be a paperboy. Of course. And so, so it was I was 544 00:32:22,980 --> 00:32:27,090 very sorry, you were y'all. Yeah. He must have been the last 545 00:32:27,090 --> 00:32:32,490 one. Anyway, so. And I was working for the contribute. And 546 00:32:32,490 --> 00:32:35,520 I remember the newspaper business back when I was a kid, 547 00:32:35,820 --> 00:32:37,860 and because my thing my dad would bitch about this because 548 00:32:37,860 --> 00:32:44,070 he was like a liberal Democrat, you know, union guy, and, you 549 00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:47,910 know, labour. And he would always say, Well, you know, and 550 00:32:47,910 --> 00:32:51,930 he the rule was, all the newspapers are owned by right 551 00:32:51,930 --> 00:32:54,750 wingers. And all the reporters were left wingers and that's the 552 00:32:54,750 --> 00:32:57,840 way that that's the balance that you had. And you could never 553 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,540 really, you know, get too far out of control because you had a 554 00:33:00,540 --> 00:33:05,520 boss and owner, like Noland in Oakland, who would became 555 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,990 governor that one wasn't gonna let it happen but in today's 556 00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:13,470 environment, it's like the owners are the Liberals they're 557 00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:16,080 the rich you know, there's a lot of people you know, there's a 558 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,690 study that just came out showing that the especially the hyper 559 00:33:18,690 --> 00:33:22,560 rich are all Democrats, the rich are all Republicans and 560 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,370 everybody else's is a Democrat. But the the super rich are all 561 00:33:26,370 --> 00:33:28,560 Democrats in the I mean, we can I can name 562 00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,289 names. They're actually socialists, 563 00:33:32,490 --> 00:33:34,860 right? They're socialists, maybe they're got a lot of money in 564 00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:36,870 there. You know, Warren Buffett's in this category. 565 00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:41,130 Warren Buffett, Steve Jobs, John Doerr, right, all of 566 00:33:41,129 --> 00:33:45,659 them. So anyways, Soros right, a good example. These guys are 567 00:33:45,659 --> 00:33:49,919 billionaires. So anyway, the vague, these people own the 568 00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:52,559 media now, also, I mean, instead of the we don't have the balance 569 00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,989 anymore. In other words, you don't have the owner who says I 570 00:33:54,989 --> 00:33:57,989 don't care what anybody thinks in the editorial room, I'm this 571 00:33:57,989 --> 00:34:01,799 paper is for the Republican, and here, you know, suddenly put up, 572 00:34:01,829 --> 00:34:05,279 you know, we recommend you vote for this guy. Now. Like I think 573 00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:08,669 that they the results have just come in. It's like 80% of the 574 00:34:08,669 --> 00:34:13,019 newspapers around the country, the USA, have endorsed Obama and 575 00:34:13,049 --> 00:34:17,039 20% of in which are the the hangers on the 20%. And indoors, 576 00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:20,639 McCain. And you know it, there's no reason for the thing that in 577 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,609 the olden days, you'd never have that if the if the Republican 578 00:34:23,609 --> 00:34:26,489 was the worst guy in the world, it would still be pushing for 579 00:34:26,489 --> 00:34:29,849 him. So the balance is missing. So now it's just all liberals. 580 00:34:30,089 --> 00:34:35,219 I'm sure you call it that Obama threw three journalists off of 581 00:34:35,219 --> 00:34:39,509 his plane, all three whose newspapers had endorsed McCain. 582 00:34:40,169 --> 00:34:43,439 No, I didn't know this. Oh, yeah. And it was under the guise 583 00:34:43,439 --> 00:34:47,219 of well, you know, we need to let some other reporters on and 584 00:34:47,219 --> 00:34:50,369 the reporters replacing them I think was like Ebony Magazine 585 00:34:50,369 --> 00:34:51,779 and jet magazine. 586 00:34:52,830 --> 00:34:55,200 No, yeah. Yeah. It's 587 00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:00,000 pretty funny. Report by the way. Well, remind me by the way, they 588 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,700 I think what you just described by the way is going to get 589 00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:03,570 worse. Yeah, 590 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,820 well I mean how much we only have a couple days left so 591 00:35:05,820 --> 00:35:06,600 doesn't make that No, no, 592 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,110 I'm talking about when Obama if Obama is elected, oh, yes gonna 593 00:35:10,110 --> 00:35:12,630 be worse than the Clinton administration for like, you 594 00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:15,330 know, marginalising everybody and taking over the media and 595 00:35:15,330 --> 00:35:18,480 making those press conferences like really they're gonna be 596 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,190 embarrassingly fawning. 597 00:35:20,220 --> 00:35:23,700 Who do you Who do you think would be a good press secretary 598 00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:25,470 for Obama? I would. 599 00:35:29,340 --> 00:35:33,480 Oh, man, you caught me mid swallow in my water. I could 600 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,580 have been dying was spewed on that I was fine. 601 00:35:37,710 --> 00:35:40,980 I do have some thoughts about Obama, we'll get to that we talk 602 00:35:40,980 --> 00:35:45,870 about the Oba mercial. Maybe we should talk about it now. I 603 00:35:45,870 --> 00:35:48,150 can't remember where we were. Are we talking about your dad? 604 00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:52,560 And about the balance? So yeah, well, you were Yeah, make that 605 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,650 go ahead. We were talking about Obama's get going to clamp down 606 00:35:58,650 --> 00:36:03,420 and on the right wing or the conservative sides of the media 607 00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:05,700 and is they're not going to be in the press conferences are not 608 00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,970 going to get any access at all, they're going to be denied 609 00:36:08,970 --> 00:36:11,640 access. I mean, that's what the President can do. I mean, it's 610 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,510 began years ago, you know, with you know, Biden or maybe was 611 00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:17,760 Nixonian I'm not sure where it really began 612 00:36:17,790 --> 00:36:19,620 well, didn't they didn't eventually didn't Bush 613 00:36:19,620 --> 00:36:23,310 eventually throw Helen out the world the cabinet that I know 614 00:36:23,310 --> 00:36:25,770 of? Well, she's I think she was she resigned she was so 615 00:36:25,770 --> 00:36:28,920 disgusted with it all. She she left she decided that to cover 616 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,190 it anyway, 617 00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:32,130 I think she retired. I don't think she was I mean, she wrote 618 00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:33,450 she wrote, 619 00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:36,540 which I have, which I have on my list. I really should read that 620 00:36:36,540 --> 00:36:38,340 because man, she was there for everything. 621 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:45,180 But I think this guy's gonna be potentially beyond the recipe 622 00:36:45,180 --> 00:36:47,160 because he knows he can get away with all this stuff. And 623 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,610 everybody's gonna cheer him because the air all the liberal 624 00:36:50,610 --> 00:36:55,410 friends that I have that are Democrats are, most of them come 625 00:36:55,410 --> 00:36:59,670 to consoles, liberals are real extreme ones are progressive, 626 00:37:00,030 --> 00:37:05,010 which is kind of a throwback term. And they are so irked 627 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,030 being cut out of the deal for so long, that they're going to be 628 00:37:09,090 --> 00:37:10,860 dummy, they'd be cheering Hitler. 629 00:37:11,610 --> 00:37:15,330 Just to give you a perspective on how well I can say Europe is 630 00:37:15,330 --> 00:37:18,510 certainly the the United Kingdom is looking at these last days 631 00:37:19,020 --> 00:37:21,510 before the election, and they are following it quite closely. 632 00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:24,810 They have the reporters on the ground they have they're using 633 00:37:24,810 --> 00:37:29,130 studios in Washington, with audiences. And those are pretty 634 00:37:29,130 --> 00:37:31,830 funny actually, because they know they'll have a panel of two 635 00:37:31,830 --> 00:37:35,070 or three Obama people two or three McCain people want to be 636 00:37:35,070 --> 00:37:38,370 like a Republican, not affiliated with the campaign. 637 00:37:38,370 --> 00:37:41,700 And there's usually one person who is actually in the campaign. 638 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,420 But the audience it's, I love it, you can pick them out, you 639 00:37:45,420 --> 00:37:48,360 know, the audience is so stacked, you know, they went to 640 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,030 Central Casting and said, Give me some Republicans give me some 641 00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:53,850 Democrats give me some undecided. And literally, the 642 00:37:53,850 --> 00:37:57,450 Republicans are great, you know, they're like 16 year old boys, 643 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,580 you know, full full suits, ties, you know, very articulate and 644 00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:05,940 very, you know, you just want to slap them upside the head, one 645 00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:10,500 of those little bastards, Oxford debaters to have exactly on the 646 00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:14,250 debate team. And then you can see which ones are I mean, you 647 00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:16,920 can just tell right, it's totally stacked. But what's 648 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,890 really interesting is the main thrust of the conversation I've 649 00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:23,580 picked up on is that it's really the question about race, which I 650 00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:28,590 see. Well, I saw less of that in the US in the last four or five 651 00:38:28,590 --> 00:38:32,460 weeks, than just the little amount that I've watched of 652 00:38:32,460 --> 00:38:36,930 coverage here in the UK. And, and they really go in in depth 653 00:38:36,930 --> 00:38:40,830 into this into this question of, of race, and you know, the 654 00:38:40,830 --> 00:38:45,420 warrior, we're gonna get a Bradley Effect, all these 655 00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:48,780 different things. And there was one woman who was it was a news 656 00:38:48,780 --> 00:38:52,560 piece. I don't know who she was. And she said something really 657 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,740 interesting. She said, just so she's black. She said, just so 658 00:38:55,740 --> 00:39:02,790 you know, Obama is is not an African American, he does not 659 00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:08,550 come from slave roots. Ergo, he does not necessarily represent 660 00:39:08,580 --> 00:39:13,530 the African Americans in the United States. And it didn't 661 00:39:13,530 --> 00:39:15,930 really, it didn't really hit me until I realised that that's 662 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,120 that's really an interesting statement. And it just shows you 663 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,680 how racist people actually are, because they are judging, in 664 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,090 many cases, judging his perceived culture and background 665 00:39:30,090 --> 00:39:33,360 based upon his skin colour, and not really on his real 666 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:39,060 background, which indeed has nothing to do with Africa, 667 00:39:39,090 --> 00:39:42,000 African Americans, descendants from slaves. 668 00:39:42,660 --> 00:39:45,750 Yeah, no, this a specific type of African American is obviously 669 00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:49,770 an African American. But this issue came up you missed it 670 00:39:49,770 --> 00:39:54,960 probably just came up in this election cycle during the early 671 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,250 primaries. When he was running against Hillary. This became a 672 00:39:59,250 --> 00:40:02,340 huge issue. For a couple of weeks it was brought up by this 673 00:40:02,340 --> 00:40:06,540 sharp 10s Or this you know, the black. The you know, the people 674 00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:08,850 that you know that marginalised one 675 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:12,360 is this one is this one Al Sharpton tried to say off camera 676 00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:15,570 or I don't like the way he was Jesse Jackson, Jesse Jackson, 677 00:40:15,570 --> 00:40:15,900 right? 678 00:40:16,650 --> 00:40:20,310 But it was it was one of those guys, they brought it up. And it 679 00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:23,700 became kind of an issue that he's not really black or he's, I 680 00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:25,950 think it was may have been Sharpton. But it was one of 681 00:40:25,950 --> 00:40:29,490 these guys that said he's not black enough. And then they 682 00:40:29,490 --> 00:40:30,450 started talking about 683 00:40:31,230 --> 00:40:34,980 him. Am I crazy? Or is that the most racist thing you can say? 684 00:40:35,790 --> 00:40:39,210 It's pretty bad. I mean, that that seems like an outrageous 685 00:40:39,210 --> 00:40:40,530 racist comment to me. 686 00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:44,070 Well, nobody calls anybody on, they're given a pass on this 687 00:40:44,070 --> 00:40:47,160 stuff. And that's just the way it goes now, and nobody, you 688 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,830 know, was not going to give him a pass on. It's like, oh, you 689 00:40:49,830 --> 00:40:52,410 know, bring it up some other time. Now, the thing that's 690 00:40:52,410 --> 00:40:57,120 interesting is that shut up, bring 691 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,260 it up some other time. Well, yeah. 692 00:40:59,250 --> 00:41:03,210 So So I don't I should, I could find it. I'd send it to you. But 693 00:41:03,330 --> 00:41:06,660 somebody sent me a can maybe we can play it next week after the 694 00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:08,880 election is over. But although wouldn't do any good. 695 00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:14,910 Apparently, Howard Stern sent his man on the street into 696 00:41:14,910 --> 00:41:18,030 Harlem. And have you heard any of this? 697 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,590 Is this is this the piece where they where the question is, do 698 00:41:22,590 --> 00:41:25,500 you think that having Barack Obama and Sarah Palin on the 699 00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:26,730 same ticket will be good? 700 00:41:27,330 --> 00:41:31,020 Exactly. Yeah, he went on, the idea was to prove that that 701 00:41:31,020 --> 00:41:33,390 blacks are just voting for Obama, because he's black. And 702 00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:35,850 there's no thought at all involved in the whole thing, 703 00:41:35,850 --> 00:41:38,790 which is, again, another racist thing. So he goes into the 704 00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:41,730 street, and he and the idea was he brings this guy out there, 705 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,580 because you can do this with any population in the United States. 706 00:41:44,580 --> 00:41:46,890 So it's kind of artificial, because I mean, Jay Leno has 707 00:41:46,890 --> 00:41:50,820 been making a career out of this thing called jaywalking. But 708 00:41:50,820 --> 00:41:53,400 anyway, so the idea was, you go into the street, and you take 709 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,780 some, just any casual person in Harlem, a black person. And you 710 00:41:57,780 --> 00:42:02,040 ask them a question about Obama, and whether they agree with his 711 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:07,710 policies, and then you reiterate McCain's policies. Yeah. Yeah, 712 00:42:07,710 --> 00:42:11,220 obviously seen this, after they agree to that you say, and you 713 00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:14,130 don't think it was bad that he has a vice president like Sarah 714 00:42:14,130 --> 00:42:17,640 Palin as his running mate, and see what they say. And they all 715 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,400 agreed with McCain's policies. And they thought Sarah Palin was 716 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,240 fine as his running mate, even though she's not. And the whole 717 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:28,500 thing was ridiculous. But it's a typical, that you listen to more 718 00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:31,470 you listen to these kinds of things, and jaywalking that Jay 719 00:42:31,470 --> 00:42:34,470 Leno does is actually worse, it just makes you shake your head, 720 00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:38,700 the only thing I take issue with is people forget, and I see this 721 00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:43,350 with very highly intelligent people. They forget that there 722 00:42:43,350 --> 00:42:46,950 is an editor who put this together. And obviously, it's a 723 00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:50,310 lot less spectacular. If you see a couple of people answered 724 00:42:50,310 --> 00:42:53,490 quite intelligently and not falling for it. And you just put 725 00:42:53,490 --> 00:42:57,180 all this the idiots together. There are many examples of this 726 00:42:57,180 --> 00:43:00,690 type of video on YouTube. tonnes, you know, it's like name 727 00:43:00,690 --> 00:43:04,200 a country that starts with a letter, you know, it's like, 728 00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:06,780 and, of course, if you think about America, not a lot of 729 00:43:06,780 --> 00:43:10,380 people think about United States of America. And you know, 730 00:43:10,380 --> 00:43:11,880 they're like, Utah. 731 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,900 Right? They say, Utah. Well, there was this one kid roaming 732 00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:20,460 around, I think we blogged this one or I did. Who goes away some 733 00:43:20,460 --> 00:43:24,600 joker goes to some hottie College, some Behati private 734 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,240 college somewhere. You negati hated the place. And he goes to 735 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:30,660 the women one after another saying, you know, getting him to 736 00:43:30,660 --> 00:43:35,340 sign a petition against women's suffrage. Yeah. And, you know, 737 00:43:35,340 --> 00:43:37,560 he gets them all to say, Oh, I've women's suffrage. Oh, yeah, 738 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,740 I'll sign that, you know, girls, that's the woman's right to 739 00:43:40,740 --> 00:43:45,240 vote. Right. And meanwhile, just just one girls go for it. She's 740 00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:48,720 signing away and her boyfriend shouts out. You can't sign that 741 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:51,480 that's talking about she he knew it was about the right to vote. 742 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,550 And she was like, I don't know what he's talking about. She 743 00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:58,110 signs today anyway. And then And then finally, there was the one 744 00:43:58,110 --> 00:44:01,800 girl who knew, and you know, out of the group, but again, you're 745 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,710 right. I mean, these things are I mean, you edit them for a 746 00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:08,070 fact, you can imagine what Jay Leno how much footage that they 747 00:44:08,070 --> 00:44:11,940 actually get, Tom before they find these incredible dummies 748 00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:14,550 who don't know, but apparently don't know anything. 749 00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:18,690 So from that very perspective, and this is a unique perspective 750 00:44:18,690 --> 00:44:21,480 that John and I have, because we know how television works and 751 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,800 how it's how it's made. And I and I probably know more of the 752 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:32,850 dirty tricks because MTV is full of them. And they're not 753 00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:35,850 considered dirty or bad. By the way, do we just do it as a force 754 00:44:35,850 --> 00:44:41,340 of nature? The Obama mercial should be on this topic. And 755 00:44:41,370 --> 00:44:45,990 thank you for for sending me the link. So I could watch it in its 756 00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:49,560 entirety. Were you able to watch this in high def, by the way? 757 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,190 Yeah. How did that look in high def, because I thought it 758 00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:54,450 wasn't it wasn't special. 759 00:44:55,230 --> 00:44:59,730 But the the tone and the colour of it. It felt to me like it was 760 00:44:59,730 --> 00:45:03,870 one of the was read read filters and it wasn't film but it was it 761 00:45:03,870 --> 00:45:06,990 was video that was kind of drawn into film. What what did you 762 00:45:06,990 --> 00:45:07,620 think it was? 763 00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:13,590 That wasn't good. I think that was just a bad. What do you call 764 00:45:13,590 --> 00:45:16,980 it when you think just a bad copy? No, I mean, I copy but you 765 00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:20,370 know, that was ripped to flash no one. 766 00:45:21,090 --> 00:45:24,270 But still, when I looked at it, it felt to me like they were 767 00:45:24,270 --> 00:45:29,310 they had put some form of nice effect into the entire piece to 768 00:45:29,310 --> 00:45:30,930 give it kind of like that film look. 769 00:45:31,650 --> 00:45:34,830 Well, you know, it's possible. I mean, I was I would initially 770 00:45:34,830 --> 00:45:37,500 guess it was the transcoding. But now that you mentioned it, 771 00:45:38,430 --> 00:45:40,680 and I'm just this is just a guess, because I never looked at 772 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,040 the little version that you have. It's possible that there 773 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,350 was something going on like that, that when it was 774 00:45:46,350 --> 00:45:48,600 transcoded became more apparent? 775 00:45:49,170 --> 00:45:53,370 Well, I'm all you know, it's, it wouldn't matter if if it was if 776 00:45:53,370 --> 00:45:56,010 they did it, then I wouldn't be able to see it because I just 777 00:45:56,010 --> 00:45:59,610 know and I can always pick up on these things and with the 778 00:45:59,610 --> 00:46:03,180 knowledge that you know that that video of the horrible Obama 779 00:46:03,180 --> 00:46:07,740 Eugen singing that was done by Jeff was it Zakhar and 780 00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:11,100 the NBC guy in DC guy 781 00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:15,390 but also the they specifically thank the the red Corporation, 782 00:46:15,390 --> 00:46:19,020 the red lenses, whatever it is, people who make that? Oh, I 783 00:46:19,020 --> 00:46:23,970 didn't know that. Yeah, cuz it was, you know, they had the the 784 00:46:23,970 --> 00:46:26,790 Steadicam operator and other famous guy who does a lot of he 785 00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:30,180 was director of photography and a lot of different movies. 786 00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:33,450 Anyway, so though, of course, there were no credits, which is 787 00:46:33,450 --> 00:46:37,050 what I really wanted to see. But it looked like, look, you know, 788 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,280 I liked the way they did that. 789 00:46:39,450 --> 00:46:42,120 And yeah, well that you could tell that production I here's, 790 00:46:42,330 --> 00:46:45,090 before you give your analysis, let me just say what I thought, 791 00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:49,470 which is that I thought that thing was extremely Hollywood at 792 00:46:49,470 --> 00:46:51,030 the beginning. And you could tell that they used some 793 00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:55,140 expensive people and Obama's team, whoever they was really 794 00:46:55,140 --> 00:46:58,530 running things are really adept at getting who they need to get 795 00:46:58,530 --> 00:47:02,250 to make this guy look the best he can. And then I thought they 796 00:47:02,250 --> 00:47:06,060 kind of blew it at the end with that live thing. I thought that 797 00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:07,380 was like lame. Well, that 798 00:47:07,380 --> 00:47:09,690 wasn't on the video. Because I only have the whole video. I 799 00:47:09,690 --> 00:47:12,630 didn't have this switch over to live I did hear audio of it. 800 00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:16,590 When they switched to Florida. It was it was in Florida. 801 00:47:17,010 --> 00:47:19,620 Yeah, it was in Florida. There was like, it wasn't one of his 802 00:47:19,620 --> 00:47:22,050 biggest groups. That was some empty seats that were which they 803 00:47:22,050 --> 00:47:24,480 obviously didn't have the right you know, people there fill 804 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,740 those seats up. And it was it should change the tone. And I 805 00:47:28,740 --> 00:47:32,760 thought it I thought the whole effect that was being developed 806 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,870 throughout the regular. 807 00:47:34,170 --> 00:47:37,740 Good, and then they ruined it with that. Then they ruined it 808 00:47:37,740 --> 00:47:42,030 within an easy you know, up there grab Same old, same old 809 00:47:42,030 --> 00:47:42,090 you 810 00:47:42,090 --> 00:47:44,580 know what that sounds like was like, that sounds like feature 811 00:47:44,580 --> 00:47:47,520 creep. It sounds to me like the production team was okay, we're 812 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,880 gonna make this beautiful video, and then we're gonna switch live 813 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,240 via satellite to Florida. It'll be a beautiful thing. That's 814 00:47:54,270 --> 00:47:56,640 that feels like a director who was just given a little bit too 815 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,270 much rope. 816 00:47:58,290 --> 00:48:02,430 Could be. Yeah, it was, I think I think whatever impact the 817 00:48:02,610 --> 00:48:05,460 first part of it had, which I guess is all you saw, I didn't 818 00:48:05,460 --> 00:48:07,650 know that. That other part wasn't at the end, I would have 819 00:48:07,650 --> 00:48:12,150 gotten a copy. And then they you know, just like wow, what an 820 00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:15,630 amazingly well produced good, you know, see the guy wasn't 821 00:48:15,630 --> 00:48:18,990 pushing it too far was just well, it was tastefully done. 822 00:48:18,990 --> 00:48:23,250 And then then they throw you did some horrible convention live 823 00:48:23,250 --> 00:48:26,550 thing with him yelling and screaming like Hitler, you know, 824 00:48:26,550 --> 00:48:31,350 on top of a podium. And I'm thinking here was what I was 825 00:48:31,350 --> 00:48:33,300 looking for. Yeah. 826 00:48:34,830 --> 00:48:40,500 I thought the casting was really well done. I like the the you 827 00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:43,950 always you put people on that could be the people watching. 828 00:48:43,950 --> 00:48:46,740 That's the whole point. Not about audience, by the way. 30 829 00:48:46,740 --> 00:48:49,770 million, so about 10 10 million per network, these that's 830 00:48:49,770 --> 00:48:52,710 probably 10 fold with these networks usually get during 831 00:48:52,740 --> 00:48:57,690 election coverage. So very good deal for everyone all round. And 832 00:48:57,690 --> 00:49:00,330 I think the price was still quite reasonable, you know, 3 833 00:49:00,330 --> 00:49:05,160 million to reach 30 million. So steel. Yeah, I think that's a 834 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:12,540 really good deal. What I did not like was the writing. I thought 835 00:49:12,540 --> 00:49:16,080 the writing really fell flat. It didn't it didn't grab me at any 836 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,630 moment. You know, it was too many examples of people. That 837 00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:21,270 was not enough. You know, the setup was good. The opening was 838 00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:24,030 good. The whole opening scene in the office. 839 00:49:25,110 --> 00:49:27,690 Well, you know, you might have something there because when I 840 00:49:27,690 --> 00:49:30,720 watched it, I was kind of just trying to be I wasn't gonna take 841 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:33,390 sides. I was gonna watch this thing. And I thought the thing 842 00:49:33,390 --> 00:49:37,740 wasn't poorly written. But when I read the post mortems and I 843 00:49:37,740 --> 00:49:40,230 were listening to some of them and then some people brought up 844 00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:43,740 some of the ludicrous aspects of the presentation, including this 845 00:49:43,740 --> 00:49:48,600 woman who has an you know, a fairly new SUV and seven kids 846 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,300 with the little stickers on the back and she has a big 847 00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:54,330 refrigerator and each kid has their own rack where they have 848 00:49:54,330 --> 00:49:58,170 their own snacks and each one and they have to like budget 849 00:49:58,170 --> 00:50:00,360 their snacks because they're running out of money. Anyway, 850 00:50:02,010 --> 00:50:05,190 what are you kidding me? Yeah, yeah. And they did they have the 851 00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:10,800 uniforms on because now remember the little surprise they didn't 852 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,650 have their armbands. So by the way, that's what we're gonna do. 853 00:50:13,830 --> 00:50:16,290 We're gonna bring out some Obama armbands, I think they were, 854 00:50:16,740 --> 00:50:17,580 they were great, 855 00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:19,200 awesome, it's gonna be a hit. 856 00:50:20,610 --> 00:50:22,950 I got to get a hold of our T shirt guy anywho I'm gonna see 857 00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:26,040 if he can do armbands for example, parcelled. I gotta find 858 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,780 out whether we can use the logo or not. 859 00:50:28,229 --> 00:50:31,049 I looked into it, I did find the company that made it they did 860 00:50:31,049 --> 00:50:33,029 all the branding for the Obama campaign. 861 00:50:33,689 --> 00:50:38,429 Oh, who? Look it up. Okay, well, we should bring that up to the 862 00:50:38,819 --> 00:50:40,349 listeners, because it's interesting, because it's 863 00:50:40,349 --> 00:50:45,869 extremely Madison Avenue. They got the logo, they got the, you 864 00:50:45,869 --> 00:50:49,979 know, the certain font that they use commonly, those posters like 865 00:50:49,979 --> 00:50:53,429 the Obama, you know, hope, dope, smoke, whatever those things, 866 00:50:53,429 --> 00:50:56,129 say. Those were done by independent artists on the side, 867 00:50:56,129 --> 00:50:58,589 there's a lot of independent art that kind of came into the 868 00:50:58,589 --> 00:51:01,499 campaign that they've adopted, but in fact, the actual 869 00:51:01,499 --> 00:51:04,229 messaging, and you can see that the Democratic National 870 00:51:04,229 --> 00:51:08,429 Convention, it's extremely, you know, it's art directed. And, 871 00:51:08,429 --> 00:51:10,559 you know, everyone hold up the same poster, and then they'd 872 00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:13,439 hold up another one, and it'd be a bunch of them. I bought this, 873 00:51:13,439 --> 00:51:16,469 and I showed a lot of examples. And these goons would come in 874 00:51:16,469 --> 00:51:19,559 with their, you know, they were looked like one of those guys 875 00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:21,689 are working on a roadway, you never 876 00:51:21,690 --> 00:51:25,650 see you ever see a homemade sign in the background. And unless 877 00:51:25,650 --> 00:51:27,360 it's an extraordinary one, 878 00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:30,900 well, they would take go, they would hustle over there and 879 00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:33,510 grabbed the guy. And I don't know if they beat him up. But as 880 00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:36,540 possible, they clubbed him, and then they give him a regular 881 00:51:36,540 --> 00:51:36,840 raise 882 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,900 them, they tased him, give him a regular sign 883 00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:43,740 that he's supposed to be holding. And so it is extremely 884 00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:46,980 orchestrated to kind of a sick. I mean, I thought it was it 885 00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:50,970 launched a lot. There's a lot of soullessness to the, to the 886 00:51:50,970 --> 00:51:52,770 Democratic National Convention. Well, here's 887 00:51:52,770 --> 00:51:55,470 what I here's what I miss John, in the in the writing, okay, 888 00:51:55,470 --> 00:51:59,760 because I see this as a show. And the the McCain Palin part of 889 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,890 the show, you know, it's like, like on Happy Days, you know, 890 00:52:01,890 --> 00:52:04,320 sometimes you just don't see a lot of Richie, you know, that's 891 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,860 just the way that's the way miniseries work. So now we've 892 00:52:07,860 --> 00:52:12,240 got the funds, we've got Obama, right friend centre, but there 893 00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:15,480 was no motivation. There was no, you know, We're the youngest 894 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,690 country. Look at Europe, the three times as old as we are, we 895 00:52:18,690 --> 00:52:22,950 have a very dynamic, great force, we'd love to get the shit 896 00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:26,100 done. Americans are awesome. The young people are really going to 897 00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:28,710 make stuff happen, and we're making this change. And we have 898 00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:32,580 this hope for them. It wasn't it was all for people who the way I 899 00:52:32,610 --> 00:52:36,780 the way I felt the writing was, it came across as okay, you 900 00:52:36,780 --> 00:52:41,310 know, yeah, I'm middle class, you know, let me be upper middle 901 00:52:41,310 --> 00:52:46,800 class, you know, saves me. That's basically what it was. 902 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,170 There was no inspiration for the country. 903 00:52:49,590 --> 00:52:52,890 Didn't know what the messaging is all day. And people have 904 00:52:52,890 --> 00:52:56,070 pointed this out before most of Obama's messaging is negative, 905 00:52:56,190 --> 00:52:59,100 not not negative campaigning, I'm talking about negative 906 00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:02,790 messaging, the country screwed up. You know, we've got to turn 907 00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:06,270 around, we got to fix things. We got to redistribute the wealth. 908 00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:09,210 We got to make things more fair, as you saw all these bad things. 909 00:53:09,540 --> 00:53:11,790 He's not saying anything bad against McCain. Well, even 910 00:53:11,790 --> 00:53:14,100 though he does he called them Bush every time they turn 911 00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:16,470 around, which just seems like an insult if he asked me, so Oh, 912 00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:19,440 no. Obama's not doing any negative campaigning? Well, I 913 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,400 think calling John McCain Bush is negative campaign. And 914 00:53:23,550 --> 00:53:26,490 you know the thing about that. So here's what here's the here's 915 00:53:26,490 --> 00:53:30,180 the latest trip he's on. And I want to remind our listeners 916 00:53:30,180 --> 00:53:33,510 that neither John or I are voting for either candidate. 917 00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:39,960 They're calling me a socialist. Well, yeah, I do remember when 918 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,650 kindergarten I do remember sharing my toys and giving my 919 00:53:43,650 --> 00:53:48,090 friend half of my peanut butter sandwich. And like that is that 920 00:53:48,090 --> 00:53:50,970 is I don't understand why they don't rip into him on this. 921 00:53:51,210 --> 00:53:53,940 That's a really bad analogy, because it's a little different 922 00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:57,630 when the teacher forces you to give up half of your peanut 923 00:53:57,630 --> 00:54:01,740 butter sandwich. That's, you know, there's a difference. 924 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,420 Yeah, no, that's a good point. But well, he he gets away with 925 00:54:06,420 --> 00:54:08,670 anything he wants to get away. Because let's face it, this is a 926 00:54:08,670 --> 00:54:13,650 long, I mean, it's decided by the people who'd be criticising 927 00:54:13,650 --> 00:54:16,500 him, that they're not going to he gets a pass on everything. 928 00:54:16,530 --> 00:54:22,650 So I know John McCain makes no chance unless, unless there's an 929 00:54:22,650 --> 00:54:26,400 interesting twist of the just at the very end, the final series, 930 00:54:27,180 --> 00:54:29,970 the final in the series, unless they have rigged the voting 931 00:54:29,970 --> 00:54:35,400 machines and then John McCain wins. That would be a very 932 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,620 interesting turn in the whole plot, but I'm just going to 933 00:54:37,620 --> 00:54:40,860 presume that Obama becomes president. So I'm really looking 934 00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:43,980 into what he's doing. And I'm looking at at the plans, which 935 00:54:43,980 --> 00:54:47,970 are on the website, Brock obama.com. And really, what I'm 936 00:54:47,970 --> 00:54:52,500 seeing is doubling of the military, doubling of homeland 937 00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:57,840 security resources. And I see new internet everywhere 938 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,340 databases everywhere. And it's right there. I mean, there's 939 00:55:02,340 --> 00:55:05,730 stuff in there about, you know, working with private industry 940 00:55:05,730 --> 00:55:09,090 and government to create, you know, a new safer internet 941 00:55:09,780 --> 00:55:16,140 buying, huh? Yeah. And you can, you can see all these little 942 00:55:16,140 --> 00:55:20,130 things that he's done throughout his career as a senator, you 943 00:55:20,130 --> 00:55:22,830 know, these these little little bills that are put in these one 944 00:55:22,830 --> 00:55:25,890 paragraph bills, basically creating some kind of commission 945 00:55:25,890 --> 00:55:29,040 for this or commission for that, or who's going to determine 946 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,990 what's safe on the internet. You know, there's another 947 00:55:30,990 --> 00:55:34,320 commission, and he's passed all these bills. And it's like, to 948 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,540 me, it seems like a beautiful puzzle that's now coming 949 00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:40,050 together. And I look at this policy, I'm like, wow, you know, 950 00:55:40,050 --> 00:55:44,130 that's sure hope and change. But, you know, there's a lot of 951 00:55:44,130 --> 00:55:50,160 details on on what he's going to do with tax credit refunds, 952 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:56,220 refundable tax credits, and, and his health insurance plan. But 953 00:55:56,220 --> 00:55:59,730 not a lot of detail and all this other stuff. And it seems, seems 954 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,920 quite far reaching in many cases. 955 00:56:03,180 --> 00:56:05,400 Yeah, like, could be militaristic for all we know, I 956 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,190 mean, nobody's gonna, you know, nobody breaks any of this stuff 957 00:56:08,190 --> 00:56:12,330 down and just, you know, working 14 hours a day for Obama. I 958 00:56:12,330 --> 00:56:14,550 mean, I got a note for somebody the other day that was like, 959 00:56:14,910 --> 00:56:18,030 yes, when you for me? Yeah, it's afforded to you. Well, you know, 960 00:56:18,030 --> 00:56:20,220 I would like to get together some time, you know, but I'm 961 00:56:20,250 --> 00:56:24,240 down in New Mexico, he was a person from the Bay Area, down 962 00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:27,510 in New Mexico working 14 hours a day for the Obama campaign. Boy, 963 00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:30,030 I forgot what this election is over. And then you have your 964 00:56:30,030 --> 00:56:33,930 next door neighbour who's like at Obama camp. And these people 965 00:56:33,930 --> 00:56:39,270 are just, I mean, amazing job of creating a bunch of Vaal. I 966 00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:43,080 mean, this just shows you by the way, that volunteerism is alive, 967 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,640 and well. And not many people take advantage of it. But people 968 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,960 do like to get involved in movements that are historic and 969 00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:58,050 or even interesting or fun, and, and literally work themselves to 970 00:56:58,050 --> 00:57:01,500 death on behalf of somebody else who they'll probably never meet, 971 00:57:01,590 --> 00:57:04,770 or they might meet in a you know, some, some sort of a line, 972 00:57:04,770 --> 00:57:06,750 you know, or they're all standing there and they get guys 973 00:57:06,780 --> 00:57:10,440 basically, you know, given the fish fist thing, bing, bing, 974 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,650 bing down the line as fast as he can to get out of there. And 975 00:57:13,710 --> 00:57:17,610 that's it. So what a thankless job. So, 976 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,810 you know, and I liked Barack Obama, I like him, he seems like 977 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,740 he seems like a good guy. You know, he's, he's programme. And 978 00:57:25,740 --> 00:57:29,880 he's being run by, by Well, what you would call the shadow 979 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,680 government. And well, you would call Brzezinski Yes. Absolute? 980 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:42,480 Well, yes. For sure. And I'm thinking that there must be a 981 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,270 way to hack into the system because if we could, if we the 982 00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:48,510 people could truly get him to do the things that that we want. 983 00:57:49,290 --> 00:57:50,490 That will be pretty awesome. 984 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:52,800 Because that's never gonna happen. 985 00:57:53,130 --> 00:57:56,640 Well, I don't know. I mean, maybe there's a way to hack into 986 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,290 reprogram his thoughts, 987 00:57:58,860 --> 00:58:01,350 shows he gets an office, they drag him aside, three goons 988 00:58:01,350 --> 00:58:05,940 grabbing and these days checked in with something. And then they 989 00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:08,430 didn't have you never see him again. You will love this. And 990 00:58:08,430 --> 00:58:11,640 he's always given speeches. This reminds me of that Star Trek 991 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:12,090 episode. 992 00:58:12,420 --> 00:58:14,520 Before we get into that, before you get into that, I gotta tell 993 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:20,040 you this as a part of the plan. He has worked and will support 994 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:29,190 and will make available $4 billion for the avian flu. Yeah, 995 00:58:30,030 --> 00:58:36,720 that freaks me out. Why? Because there is no avian flu. Well, 996 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,800 they're definitely won't be they spend a billion to 997 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,560 $4 billion. Okay, your essay said a billion of 4 billion, 4 998 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,010 billion with a B $4 billion set aside. 999 00:58:50,370 --> 00:58:53,250 I think there is an avian flu. And I think our little operation 1000 00:58:53,250 --> 00:58:57,840 Adam, the avian flu elimination project is going to need some 1001 00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,440 funding. 1002 00:59:00,030 --> 00:59:04,920 Damn, you're so right. Hmm. We must get on this immediately. 1003 00:59:06,420 --> 00:59:08,910 Oh, my goodness. Okay. Yeah, the Star Trek episode. 1004 00:59:10,590 --> 00:59:13,560 Yeah, they get started one of the older ones, everyone who's 1005 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,290 seen Star Trek, you know, the original series probably seen it 1006 00:59:16,290 --> 00:59:18,300 a million times, but this is the one where they show up on this 1007 00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:22,200 plan that places fascist. And then they find the guy who's 1008 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,660 running the plate, everyone's wearing Nazi armbands and 1009 00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:28,650 whatever. And the guy who's running the place is almost some 1010 00:59:28,650 --> 00:59:32,760 guy from you know, it was from the Federation or whatever, 1011 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,010 they, Oregon, you know, whatever. They, I forgot what 1012 00:59:35,010 --> 00:59:38,280 it's called. But the he's one of the Star Trek guys. He's like a 1013 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,040 guy that was sent out on a different mission. And next 1014 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,510 thing you know, he's now potentially a fascist. And then 1015 00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:49,410 they determined of course that he was he just did the fascist 1016 00:59:49,410 --> 00:59:51,720 thing to try to straighten out what was an out of control 1017 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,050 society, and they got carried away and then some evil people. 1018 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,980 Because he became so popular. They drugged him and made him do 1019 00:59:58,980 --> 01:00:02,550 their bidding. You know, behind the glass wall and they had to 1020 01:00:02,550 --> 01:00:05,970 rescue him and then take him off these drugs so he could say no, 1021 01:00:05,970 --> 01:00:09,930 you know, we got to give his last speech and say this is all 1022 01:00:09,930 --> 01:00:13,320 wrong, wrong wrong. And of course, then they shoot him. The 1023 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,200 bat, you know, the bad guys do and then they arrested the Nazis 1024 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,510 and it's just it was actually a pretty one of the better stories 1025 01:00:18,510 --> 01:00:19,530 was very interesting. 1026 01:00:19,890 --> 01:00:22,530 It's Wizard of Oz. 1027 01:00:24,750 --> 01:00:25,950 Well, not really, 1028 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:32,880 in a way in the metaphoric sense that the seeming power really is 1029 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:33,600 powerless. 1030 01:00:34,410 --> 01:00:38,640 Yeah, well, that's true. The guy was a phoney but he wasn't like, 1031 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,510 the difference is that one was unwitting. And the other one 1032 01:00:42,510 --> 01:00:44,010 was, you know, volunteer. So 1033 01:00:44,010 --> 01:00:46,380 it's slightly different. The Manchurian Candidate. 1034 01:00:47,580 --> 01:00:50,580 goal is that too. Yeah, by the way, if anyone hasn't seen you 1035 01:00:50,580 --> 01:00:53,130 know, the Manchurian Candidate, the original one, which shows up 1036 01:00:53,130 --> 01:00:55,470 on TV every once awhile, a black and white movie with Frank 1037 01:00:55,470 --> 01:01:00,630 Sinatra is an hour is much better than the second the 1038 01:01:00,630 --> 01:01:03,510 second year they do these read, you know, they'd redo these 1039 01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:06,090 movies and they change the story, the original story and 1040 01:01:06,090 --> 01:01:08,280 the novel. By the way, if you want to read a good book, read 1041 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,130 the Manchurian Candidate, the book, it actually has a lot of 1042 01:01:11,130 --> 01:01:14,340 interesting. There's a lot of interest is well written. Let's 1043 01:01:14,340 --> 01:01:16,740 put it that way in a great read if you haven't read it, and 1044 01:01:16,770 --> 01:01:19,380 rather than read this new stuff, read, go back and read some 1045 01:01:19,380 --> 01:01:22,140 classics. But the Manchurian Candidate is one of them. But 1046 01:01:22,140 --> 01:01:24,930 the original movie, of course, was never successful, because it 1047 01:01:24,930 --> 01:01:28,830 came out just as John Kennedy was assassinated. And that thing 1048 01:01:28,830 --> 01:01:31,200 had to actually be shelved. I don't think you've ever made any 1049 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,440 money. But it is a great, great film. 1050 01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:42,300 I got a question for you. Yeah, this show has been on the has 1051 01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:45,510 been going for over a year now. We actually forgot to celebrate 1052 01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:52,530 our one year anniversary, honey, I'm sorry. To lo siento. I think 1053 01:01:52,530 --> 01:01:56,460 somewhere around episode 20. We were talking about China. In the 1054 01:01:56,460 --> 01:01:57,120 Congo. 1055 01:01:58,110 --> 01:02:01,830 Oh, yeah. And Africa throughout Africa. Right. But 1056 01:02:01,830 --> 01:02:06,450 specifically there in the Congo. This is 750,000 Chinese workers 1057 01:02:06,450 --> 01:02:08,550 now. Yeah. In Africa. 1058 01:02:08,970 --> 01:02:11,700 Yeah. Because they can't find workers in Africa, apparently. 1059 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:12,030 Yeah. 1060 01:02:12,510 --> 01:02:16,560 And, you know, they they promised to build hospitals, 1061 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,250 schools, roads, you know, all this stuff in the Congo in 1062 01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:23,340 particular roads, very important because they've got the red mud. 1063 01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:25,920 And I actually know a little bit about that. I can remember 1064 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:32,310 getting stuck in the red mud as a kid in Uganda. And so you 1065 01:02:32,310 --> 01:02:34,080 know, they move in quite aggressively. They need the 1066 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,080 gold, they need all the minerals. There's what's the 1067 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:41,010 stuff that is in the in mobile phones, Johns and other mineral 1068 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:46,170 data, palladium or malaria? mullite. Not accom. 1069 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,550 There's not cobalt, but 1070 01:02:50,580 --> 01:02:52,500 I don't know. I mean, there's a bunch of that. Yeah, I know what 1071 01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:54,180 you're saying. It's not I thought it was palladium. But 1072 01:02:54,180 --> 01:02:54,780 maybe I'm wrong. 1073 01:02:54,870 --> 01:02:57,120 Now. Well, they it was something on the BBC, but I forgot what it 1074 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,260 was. It sounded like cobalt. I don't know. So, you know, 1075 01:03:01,260 --> 01:03:04,380 obviously very important for China, because most of our 1076 01:03:04,380 --> 01:03:09,360 mobile phones come from China. Look at your iPhone. I'm 1077 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:10,530 thinking that, you know, I 1078 01:03:10,530 --> 01:03:12,390 use a Nokia II 71. 1079 01:03:12,749 --> 01:03:18,419 So do I they come from Finland? Yeah, we're whereby the way the 1080 01:03:18,419 --> 01:03:22,859 internet has the regulation Australia's getting. But anyway, 1081 01:03:23,129 --> 01:03:25,829 so the Chinese move in pretty aggressively. This has only been 1082 01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:28,739 going for about a year. And in fact, if you know, well, if 1083 01:03:28,739 --> 01:03:30,269 you've been listening to the show, you know that John and I 1084 01:03:30,269 --> 01:03:35,099 are a fan of Confessions of an economic hitman, the book, John 1085 01:03:35,099 --> 01:03:40,079 Perkins, the author of that, who spells out how this works. And I 1086 01:03:40,109 --> 01:03:42,419 was looking through some articles today. And I saw that 1087 01:03:42,449 --> 01:03:46,259 Bechtel. That's the company that John Perkins worked for. Was all 1088 01:03:46,259 --> 01:03:46,829 over Actually, 1089 01:03:46,830 --> 01:03:48,960 no, he worked for a small consulting firm. It wasn't 1090 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,110 Bechdel he worked with definitely later he worked for 1091 01:03:52,110 --> 01:03:55,620 Bechtel. I don't know maybe I don't remember that. Well, he 1092 01:03:55,620 --> 01:03:56,160 references 1093 01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:01,530 back to many times in the book. And so I read that Bechtel is in 1094 01:04:01,530 --> 01:04:04,650 there setting up huge contracts are basically kind of like a go 1095 01:04:04,650 --> 01:04:09,720 between team and the way John Perkins explains it is. So 1096 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,140 first, you know, the Economic Hitman GO IN they, you know, 1097 01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:18,090 they find they, they find out who, who they need to bribe and 1098 01:04:18,090 --> 01:04:20,550 they give them hundreds of millions of dollars, and they 1099 01:04:20,550 --> 01:04:23,730 sign off, they basically sign their their countries away. And 1100 01:04:23,730 --> 01:04:29,130 then those contracts go to mainly US companies. And if they 1101 01:04:29,130 --> 01:04:32,790 default on loans and the IMF and then they take everything away, 1102 01:04:32,790 --> 01:04:36,720 I mean, it's a huge scam, basically. And what the guy 1103 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,180 specifically says is that when that doesn't work, then they 1104 01:04:39,180 --> 01:04:43,260 send in the jackals, the jackals being, you know, Black Ops, CIA 1105 01:04:43,260 --> 01:04:46,860 type stuff, troublemakers troublemakers to stir shit up 1106 01:04:46,860 --> 01:04:49,920 and to throw people from power. And when I look at what's going 1107 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:55,560 on now, where it's exactly the reverse of the 90s where the 1108 01:04:56,730 --> 01:05:00,000 thing of I'm saying this right, the Tutsis were getting there. 1109 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,490 asked kicked by the No, the Tutsis were kicking or getting 1110 01:05:02,490 --> 01:05:03,840 their ass kicked by the huzzaz 1111 01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:06,090 Hutus and Tutsis. I 1112 01:05:06,090 --> 01:05:10,590 like saying Hutus and Tutsis is easier to remember. The H's and 1113 01:05:10,590 --> 01:05:16,110 T's, now the T's are kicking the H's ass. And it feels like 1114 01:05:16,110 --> 01:05:18,990 jackals all over this thing, John, and it feels like this 1115 01:05:18,990 --> 01:05:20,820 time China's involved as well. 1116 01:05:21,630 --> 01:05:26,250 Well, I think China is our competitor in this deal. And I 1117 01:05:26,250 --> 01:05:29,340 think the problem we're having is that China is like, you know, 1118 01:05:29,340 --> 01:05:31,590 they're doing a bunch of stuff we can do. I don't know, maybe 1119 01:05:31,590 --> 01:05:33,780 we're partnering with them. I mean, it's always possible that 1120 01:05:33,780 --> 01:05:37,140 behind the scenes, or you're trying to this could 1121 01:05:37,140 --> 01:05:40,830 be the front panel course. Now, you know, this could be where 1122 01:05:40,830 --> 01:05:43,680 the front of the war between the US and China takes place. 1123 01:05:44,820 --> 01:05:48,090 I, I'm thinking more it's more likely that there's some sort of 1124 01:05:48,090 --> 01:05:51,720 an agreement in the back room. That let's because one of the 1125 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,930 things we could never do in Africa, in particular, was 1126 01:05:54,930 --> 01:05:58,800 support these creeps who hated us anyway. And you know, Ben 1127 01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,130 pull the economic hitman stunt that we could easily do in South 1128 01:06:02,130 --> 01:06:02,880 America. 1129 01:06:03,180 --> 01:06:05,040 Well, we tried, but we always seem to fail. 1130 01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:08,219 Yeah, we always screw it, it never works. We can't do the 1131 01:06:08,219 --> 01:06:12,479 model we for Africa is unknown to us. Because the Chinese have 1132 01:06:12,479 --> 01:06:16,289 an interesting model. And which, of course, I elucidated before. 1133 01:06:16,289 --> 01:06:18,329 Now, you know, just to bring it up, again, they have need to 1134 01:06:18,329 --> 01:06:22,919 basically scam these people. And this was introduced to me by a 1135 01:06:22,919 --> 01:06:26,879 German entrepreneur some years earlier, who it's started to see 1136 01:06:26,879 --> 01:06:31,739 it back. Right. This was a while back, he said, and he outlined 1137 01:06:31,739 --> 01:06:37,529 exactly what the process is. And then as soon as he did, it made 1138 01:06:37,529 --> 01:06:39,779 sense to me that every time I looked into it, this is exactly 1139 01:06:39,779 --> 01:06:42,899 what was going on, which is the Chinese find some government no 1140 01:06:42,899 --> 01:06:47,099 matter how horrible these people are, do a deal to build their 1141 01:06:47,099 --> 01:06:50,819 infrastructure out. And in the process as part of the deal to 1142 01:06:50,819 --> 01:06:53,789 build out the infrastructure they are allowed to bring in 1143 01:06:53,789 --> 01:06:57,629 duty free anything they want, and their own workers. And so 1144 01:06:57,629 --> 01:07:01,949 they flood the place with with with a bunch of supposin workers 1145 01:07:01,949 --> 01:07:05,129 who set up little communities and towns and stores. And then 1146 01:07:05,129 --> 01:07:08,669 they take all these all this duty free goods, which nothing 1147 01:07:08,669 --> 01:07:11,699 can compete with this is where the German guy was irked because 1148 01:07:11,699 --> 01:07:16,019 you can't compete with duty free when you're paying 50% for the 1149 01:07:16,019 --> 01:07:18,419 same thing, and they bring in a lot of the stuffs inferior, they 1150 01:07:18,419 --> 01:07:21,209 bring all this crap in. And then they start flooding the market 1151 01:07:21,209 --> 01:07:25,109 with products that are duty Dennis cheap, as part of this 1152 01:07:25,229 --> 01:07:28,949 process to build out their infrastructure, build a dam, do 1153 01:07:28,949 --> 01:07:33,029 this and do that. But they never complete the product project to 1154 01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:36,719 us. And let this this situation go on forever, where the Chinese 1155 01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:40,439 start importing just tonnes and tonnes of stuff. People in the 1156 01:07:40,439 --> 01:07:42,929 end up taking over the country for all practical purposes, at 1157 01:07:42,929 --> 01:07:49,109 least economically. And it's something we don't have the it's 1158 01:07:49,109 --> 01:07:50,159 just not that we would do 1159 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,700 my crazy. But is that not exactly what's taking place with 1160 01:07:54,510 --> 01:07:57,750 Europe and the United States? Aren't the Chinese doing exactly 1161 01:07:57,750 --> 01:08:00,690 that? Aren't they bringing stuff in concert constantly? Maybe 1162 01:08:00,690 --> 01:08:03,930 they're taking us over? Very quietly, economically in the 1163 01:08:03,930 --> 01:08:06,660 background just by importing all this stuff. I mean, they've got 1164 01:08:06,660 --> 01:08:12,300 all kinds of new. They've negotiated I'm sure with with 1165 01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:14,430 all these sovereign wealth funds, I'm sure they've 1166 01:08:14,430 --> 01:08:18,240 negotiated many of the import contracts. Maybe that's maybe 1167 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:19,800 that's their whole modus operandi. 1168 01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:24,779 Well, the problem with doing that to us, first of all, is the 1169 01:08:24,869 --> 01:08:27,869 reader is not they're not doing it as a cheat. In other words, 1170 01:08:27,869 --> 01:08:30,989 slipping in some crazy idea so they can get the stuff in duty. 1171 01:08:30,989 --> 01:08:34,289 For me it is already duty free. And and and the other thing is 1172 01:08:34,289 --> 01:08:39,179 most of this what we're paying them with is not it's not 1173 01:08:39,179 --> 01:08:42,659 minerals is not, you know, I mean, I think the Canadians ship 1174 01:08:42,659 --> 01:08:45,599 them a lot of logs, but we don't really ship them anything that's 1175 01:08:45,599 --> 01:08:48,479 anything other than essentially debt that they owe. 1176 01:08:48,779 --> 01:08:51,479 You take some take some of our credit cards, 1177 01:08:51,659 --> 01:08:54,449 take some of our debt out. Oh, by the way, can we borrow more 1178 01:08:54,449 --> 01:08:58,619 money from you? So I'm wondering who's scamming who in this deal? 1179 01:09:00,060 --> 01:09:03,330 Well, it takes two to tango, I guess. 1180 01:09:04,829 --> 01:09:07,289 Well, it all shakes out in the end. And at some point, it's an 1181 01:09:07,289 --> 01:09:09,959 unstable situation. And of course, my thinking is that 1182 01:09:09,959 --> 01:09:12,449 we're having heading for an economic crisis, but not until 1183 01:09:12,449 --> 01:09:14,609 we have a nice bull market 1184 01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:18,300 right after the election. 1185 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:24,960 That's my guess. Yeah. So anyway, I bought a I don't want 1186 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:29,340 to get into the stock market stuff. But I did buy a in 1187 01:09:29,340 --> 01:09:31,050 Exchange Traded note. 1188 01:09:32,850 --> 01:09:35,760 And so is that for the upside or the downside? 1189 01:09:36,030 --> 01:09:39,900 It's a downside as double short, actually. And it is it is an 1190 01:09:39,900 --> 01:09:43,080 exchange traded note, which is one of these crazy financial 1191 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,440 vehicles. And this one was created by the Deutsche Bank in 1192 01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:49,200 Germany. And if anyone wants to know what it is, you can look it 1193 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,650 up as a DI T Oh, it's an oil short for goods a commodity 1194 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,700 purchase, but it's not as a short but it's done as Exchange 1195 01:09:56,700 --> 01:10:00,780 Traded notes. So just traded openly on the market. But it's, 1196 01:10:01,110 --> 01:10:06,990 but it's it's structured like a credit default swap is, in other 1197 01:10:06,990 --> 01:10:09,960 words is one of these crazy things that it doesn't you know, 1198 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,820 it's like one of these investment concepts, right? So 1199 01:10:14,820 --> 01:10:19,470 yeah, so. So apparently, when you buy what I would recommend, 1200 01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:22,200 we'll just somehow get one and buy it and sell it, I don't 1201 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,200 care, but you want to get it long enough. So they have to 1202 01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:31,140 send you the document, which explains it. So it came in the 1203 01:10:31,140 --> 01:10:33,870 mail the other day. And I've been itching to get a hold of 1204 01:10:33,870 --> 01:10:36,210 one of these things, because I know they exchange all these 1205 01:10:36,210 --> 01:10:39,540 crazy ideas that we've been these these financial vehicles 1206 01:10:39,540 --> 01:10:41,790 or whatever they want to call them. I've always wanted to get 1207 01:10:41,790 --> 01:10:45,780 a hold of one of the documents that explains how it works. 1208 01:10:45,780 --> 01:10:49,830 So what's the what's the value of one one of these et NS 1209 01:10:51,149 --> 01:10:55,289 that Etn? Well, that's it's kind of explained there is none, in 1210 01:10:55,289 --> 01:10:57,659 fact, is the whole thing is something like a house of cards. 1211 01:10:57,659 --> 01:10:59,759 So you have to get in and you don't want to hold them forever. 1212 01:10:59,849 --> 01:11:03,509 Although they expire. This one expires in 2036. But they you 1213 01:11:03,509 --> 01:11:06,389 can trade it on the stock exchange. But anyway, so I got 1214 01:11:06,389 --> 01:11:09,119 the document finally showed up. Holy mackerel, 1215 01:11:09,150 --> 01:11:13,080 so is this you got? This is like you're, you're kind of betting 1216 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,900 against the house where you say, Okay, I'm gonna put 5000 into 1217 01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:19,680 this Etn and you have a mark point where you bought in and 1218 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,800 then depending on what it does, you you you win, or you lose? 1219 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,880 Yeah, pretty much. Okay. And so tell me about the document. 1220 01:11:27,510 --> 01:11:33,150 The document is the size of the Manhattan phone book. It's cost 1221 01:11:33,150 --> 01:11:37,710 like 10 bucks to ship me this thing. It's huge. And I mean, 1222 01:11:38,220 --> 01:11:42,030 now I realised that no matter what happens with this Etn this 1223 01:11:42,030 --> 01:11:45,180 document is got to be the greatest cocktail party 1224 01:11:45,180 --> 01:11:49,440 conversation piece ever. Because I've gotten documents from 1225 01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:52,380 companies you know, doing IPOs and you've seen these things 1226 01:11:52,380 --> 01:11:52,590 does 1227 01:11:52,590 --> 01:11:54,930 it really thin paper and really small print? 1228 01:11:55,410 --> 01:11:58,800 No, it was small print was not necessarily thin paper, but it's 1229 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,850 just regular, you know, LaserJet for paper, but the thing is so 1230 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:07,020 big and it's a convoluted mess. No, you wouldn't it would take 1231 01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:11,790 you a year or two to read it be and if you could and it's one 1232 01:12:11,790 --> 01:12:14,610 thing after another and how the bank does this and that and 1233 01:12:15,480 --> 01:12:19,290 anyway it's worth the price of admission just to get this this 1234 01:12:19,290 --> 01:12:23,610 big piece of paperwork in the mail your holy crap it and no is 1235 01:12:23,610 --> 01:12:27,450 this complicated? But that's what a lot of these you know, 1236 01:12:27,450 --> 01:12:31,680 these crazy investments, you know, creations are they're just 1237 01:12:34,050 --> 01:12:34,950 I was watching. 1238 01:12:35,550 --> 01:12:38,400 I'm sorry. It's like these guys say nobody can understand them 1239 01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:39,390 was watching 1240 01:12:39,390 --> 01:12:44,820 CNBC. Fridays, they were wrapping up. Erin Burnett, God, 1241 01:12:44,820 --> 01:12:50,250 I'm in love with her. I love her so much. She She's everybody's 1242 01:12:50,250 --> 01:12:53,190 favourite. Oh, my God, I could live with her. I would worship? 1243 01:12:54,090 --> 01:12:58,620 If I could. I wouldn't even have to have sex. Just just to lay 1244 01:12:58,620 --> 01:12:59,250 next to her. 1245 01:12:59,399 --> 01:13:02,249 Yeah, and I'm sure you wouldn't get any from her either. 1246 01:13:03,330 --> 01:13:08,130 Anyway, so Bernanke was on and Bernanke around two o'clock 1247 01:13:08,130 --> 01:13:11,820 Friday afternoon, Eastern Time, he, he starts doing this live 1248 01:13:11,820 --> 01:13:14,280 speech. And they already have the speech. So to certain point 1249 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,590 when it gets kind of boring or long, or whatever, you know, 1250 01:13:16,590 --> 01:13:18,780 they just tune out. And then they start talking about what he 1251 01:13:18,780 --> 01:13:21,180 hasn't even talked about, because they've been sent the 1252 01:13:21,180 --> 01:13:26,250 speech ahead of time. And, and essentially, what the message 1253 01:13:26,250 --> 01:13:37,800 was that they're that they can't find a way to put into place. A 1254 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:42,780 US government backed government sponsored enterprise. So the 1255 01:13:42,780 --> 01:13:46,800 saying is, you know, the, the, the the pyramid of mortgages 1256 01:13:47,820 --> 01:13:50,700 that exists today, we're kind of winding up with the Fannie Mae, 1257 01:13:50,700 --> 01:13:55,950 Freddie Mac, that that cannot exist without explicit backing 1258 01:13:55,950 --> 01:13:59,280 from the government. And they're talking about this, this way of 1259 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:07,050 doing it called covered bonds. Have you heard of this? 1260 01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:09,660 No, but I'm sure it will. 1261 01:14:09,930 --> 01:14:12,570 Yeah. So essentially, you know, there's, there's bonds that the 1262 01:14:12,570 --> 01:14:16,080 US government guarantees. And so that would be the vehicle. I 1263 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,260 mean, it's really, it's quite interesting to see because that 1264 01:14:19,260 --> 01:14:23,640 is one of the big changes that they're making now, into this 1265 01:14:23,670 --> 01:14:30,360 into the new global economic order. As Sarkozy and Gordon 1266 01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:34,560 Brown are calling it and miracle. So Andrew Merkle, 1267 01:14:35,340 --> 01:14:41,220 Andrew Hora was wrote in his online news thing or blog, the 1268 01:14:41,220 --> 01:14:45,450 disciplined investor. He ran a blog at two which is that 1269 01:14:45,450 --> 01:14:48,810 apparently $60 billion dollars of that bailout are going to 1270 01:14:48,810 --> 01:14:51,630 salaries and bonuses for executives. I 1271 01:14:51,630 --> 01:14:56,160 heard this guy's getting $500 million. Absolutely. Absolutely. 1272 01:14:56,160 --> 01:15:01,350 And the New York Times had a great piece Where the reporter 1273 01:15:01,350 --> 01:15:06,300 called into an employee conference call. So somehow he 1274 01:15:06,300 --> 01:15:09,840 got that, and this is what a huge lack of security these 1275 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,690 things are. And oh, yeah, the stuff that's discussed on 1276 01:15:12,690 --> 01:15:15,480 conference calls is just outrageous. I mean, and we're 1277 01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:21,570 probably really bad at it at NI VO. So he called in and, you 1278 01:15:21,570 --> 01:15:23,910 know, the question was asked, What are we going to do with the 1279 01:15:23,910 --> 01:15:26,550 money? Well, we were going to make acquisitions. We're going 1280 01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:29,310 to, you know, hold on to it for better times. But you know, 1281 01:15:29,310 --> 01:15:32,250 basically, no, we're not giving this to any smaller banks. And 1282 01:15:32,340 --> 01:15:34,830 this is not moving down the line, we're keeping it. So we 1283 01:15:34,830 --> 01:15:37,050 can do business and acquisitions. acquisitions, of 1284 01:15:37,050 --> 01:15:43,290 course, mean, fees and bonuses. Right. But what's very 1285 01:15:44,220 --> 01:15:46,470 sorry, I'm just say it's a scandal. 1286 01:15:46,979 --> 01:15:50,429 What was really interesting is that Barclays Bank here in the 1287 01:15:50,429 --> 01:15:57,779 UK, which I also bank with, they went out and they raised 7 1288 01:15:57,779 --> 01:16:02,099 billion pounds, like 12 $12 billion from the Saudis from the 1289 01:16:02,099 --> 01:16:05,999 Middle East, because they didn't want to take the government 1290 01:16:05,999 --> 01:16:08,789 money. They refused it. And everyone's like, really tripping 1291 01:16:08,789 --> 01:16:13,469 out over this. And so they gave it like, a really sweetheart 1292 01:16:13,469 --> 01:16:17,909 deal to some Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds. And so 1293 01:16:17,909 --> 01:16:19,799 they're still independent. They're not they don't belong to 1294 01:16:19,799 --> 01:16:22,589 the government, which is a very interesting move. 1295 01:16:23,970 --> 01:16:26,040 Yeah, well, they'll probably still be in business someday. 1296 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,220 Exactly. And I was quite happy to see that. 1297 01:16:30,569 --> 01:16:33,329 Well, I know that Wells Fargo when they when the government 1298 01:16:33,329 --> 01:16:38,309 came calling they they said no, we don't want your money. And 1299 01:16:38,309 --> 01:16:41,219 they said, No, you're taking the money. And you're given us so 1300 01:16:41,219 --> 01:16:44,489 many preferred preferred stock shares, even though it turns out 1301 01:16:44,489 --> 01:16:48,059 that it wasn't as good a deal as Goldman Sachs got and they some 1302 01:16:48,059 --> 01:16:52,109 of the same offerings. In other words, the taxpayers have to pay 1303 01:16:52,109 --> 01:16:55,379 the premium because of their treasury secretaries and ex 1304 01:16:55,379 --> 01:16:59,069 Goldman Sachs guys looking after his own people, you know, that 1305 01:16:59,069 --> 01:17:00,209 Oh, I'm sure it's always his 1306 01:17:00,210 --> 01:17:03,480 little assistant, the guy doling out the money, Neil cash and 1307 01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:03,990 carry. 1308 01:17:05,220 --> 01:17:08,340 And so they didn't want it. But the argument was interesting to 1309 01:17:08,340 --> 01:17:11,820 me was, well, every one of you banks have to be in on this 1310 01:17:11,820 --> 01:17:16,920 because if, if some of you buy in and some of you don't, then 1311 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:21,270 the public will know which banks are insolvent. And, and sketchy. 1312 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,480 And we don't want anyone knowing anything, which of course is 1313 01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:27,510 like kind of insulting to the public is why is the public you 1314 01:17:27,510 --> 01:17:29,610 will let you may have a run on the bank. Nobody has a run on 1315 01:17:29,610 --> 01:17:32,520 the bank. And we we don't because we got the FDIC so your 1316 01:17:32,550 --> 01:17:36,780 money's insured. You always gonna get it. But I think it'd 1317 01:17:36,780 --> 01:17:38,910 be nice to know which banks are flaky, 1318 01:17:39,090 --> 01:17:41,820 of course, it's total protectionism. 1319 01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:47,850 Anyway, what else gets in this depressing topic? 1320 01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:52,290 So just a quick swing back to to the Congo. The one thing that's 1321 01:17:52,290 --> 01:17:56,190 really irking me is that regardless of which news channel 1322 01:17:56,190 --> 01:17:59,640 I'm watching and you know, I, I would expect a lot better from 1323 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,940 the BBC. Here's what I'm really outraged for get Jonathan Rossen 1324 01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:07,890 and the other fellow I'm really outraged that every single 1325 01:18:07,890 --> 01:18:11,340 report you know, starts by saying well, it's really bad in 1326 01:18:11,340 --> 01:18:14,940 the Congo. And here's so and so who has details on why this is 1327 01:18:14,940 --> 01:18:19,410 taking place? And then you see five minutes of five horrible 1328 01:18:19,410 --> 01:18:23,100 pictures of children you know, there's no food they're on the 1329 01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:26,820 run, they're gonna go die in the bushes in the woods, it's it's 1330 01:18:26,820 --> 01:18:30,630 horrible, hundreds of 1000s they don't actually give you any 1331 01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:34,320 information about why this is happening. None of them not a 1332 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,980 single story not anywhere, can I actually get some information 1333 01:18:38,220 --> 01:18:43,500 about what is taking place? Because they don't actually know 1334 01:18:43,500 --> 01:18:49,290 is my belief and I really think that this has China and US 1335 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:55,410 written all over it and be and we raised about that that's what 1336 01:18:55,410 --> 01:18:56,640 we should be outraged about. 1337 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,500 Well, you know, I bet you if you if you read it if you go into 1338 01:19:01,500 --> 01:19:03,930 and I hate to say that you have to do this nowadays to get 1339 01:19:03,930 --> 01:19:08,910 information. I believe that if you go into the African blogs or 1340 01:19:08,910 --> 01:19:11,250 you go to some of this more specialised information coming 1341 01:19:11,250 --> 01:19:15,090 from you know, other types of reporters, you're gonna find the 1342 01:19:15,090 --> 01:19:18,630 facts. Totally a promise you're gonna get a lot of it's going to 1343 01:19:18,630 --> 01:19:21,000 be slanted, but I think at least you can get closer to it. 1344 01:19:21,029 --> 01:19:24,899 But what obviously I'm able to find some information but what 1345 01:19:24,899 --> 01:19:27,899 I'm talking about is that you know that they'll go into depth 1346 01:19:27,899 --> 01:19:32,039 about all kinds of bullshit, but you know, this seems to be a 1347 01:19:32,039 --> 01:19:34,589 really important one it you know, it's the top of the news, 1348 01:19:34,589 --> 01:19:36,509 but really, it's only the top of the news because there's 1349 01:19:36,569 --> 01:19:40,199 frightened looking people falling over each other and 1350 01:19:40,199 --> 01:19:44,369 children crying and being trampled upon. It's porn. It's 1351 01:19:44,369 --> 01:19:47,159 news porn. They're not actually giving you any information or 1352 01:19:47,159 --> 01:19:53,099 anything we can, we can do to change it. And where's Bano? Fix 1353 01:19:53,099 --> 01:19:57,059 it Bano and Bob. Come on, guys, get out here. We need some help. 1354 01:19:58,949 --> 01:20:02,339 We gotta call Follow up Ted leonsis. Let's do live live 1355 01:20:02,339 --> 01:20:02,909 nine. 1356 01:20:06,569 --> 01:20:08,069 Now that's the cynic in you 1357 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:15,060 pisses me off. Remember, we are the world. Oh, the whole USA for 1358 01:20:15,060 --> 01:20:19,920 Africa. That was 25 years ago, John 25 years ago. Look at turn 1359 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:23,460 on the television. What have we done? What happened? Was the 1360 01:20:23,460 --> 01:20:24,900 same things bullshit. 1361 01:20:25,409 --> 01:20:28,019 And the same thing with hands across America. Do you remember 1362 01:20:28,019 --> 01:20:28,769 that one? Oh, 1363 01:20:28,770 --> 01:20:32,580 my God. Oh, you got to tell our listeners a lot of people don't 1364 01:20:32,580 --> 01:20:34,500 know about that. It was it was too long ago. 1365 01:20:35,309 --> 01:20:38,519 Hands Across America. There was a this was about I have to get 1366 01:20:38,519 --> 01:20:41,339 the date. And you might want to look it up on Wikipedia, Utah. 1367 01:20:42,149 --> 01:20:44,489 Yeah, give me the date. But anyway, so I actually met one of 1368 01:20:44,489 --> 01:20:47,309 the guys who was the original designer of the whole process. 1369 01:20:47,309 --> 01:20:50,789 And the idea was we're going to have, we had too much poverty in 1370 01:20:50,789 --> 01:20:53,519 the United States, and we're going to pull together as a 1371 01:20:53,519 --> 01:20:58,229 nation. And we're going to eliminate poverty and 1372 01:20:58,229 --> 01:21:00,779 homelessness. And I think homelessness was maybe when the 1373 01:21:00,779 --> 01:21:03,569 word first started become popular, was during the hands 1374 01:21:03,569 --> 01:21:06,329 across America thing. So they decided they're going to have to 1375 01:21:06,359 --> 01:21:10,499 do have to make a big event out of people starting on the West 1376 01:21:10,499 --> 01:21:14,999 Coast, holding hands, one after another after another into a 1377 01:21:15,029 --> 01:21:18,299 long stream across the entire country, like the Great Wall of 1378 01:21:18,299 --> 01:21:21,989 China, from one end of the country to the other all holding 1379 01:21:21,989 --> 01:21:25,109 hands, and there was like little buttons and stickers and pins 1380 01:21:25,109 --> 01:21:30,509 that had everything but the armband, and it was like little 1381 01:21:30,509 --> 01:21:33,809 people holding hands. It's very collectible now. And it was 1382 01:21:33,809 --> 01:21:36,389 called Hands Across America and it was going to be the beginning 1383 01:21:36,389 --> 01:21:40,679 of the end for homelessness. And it was just another big bunch of 1384 01:21:40,679 --> 01:21:41,639 bullshit. 1385 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:48,270 May May 25 1986. Yeah, there you go. 7 million people held hands 1386 01:21:48,270 --> 01:21:51,390 in a human chain for 15 minutes along a path across the 1387 01:21:51,390 --> 01:21:55,470 continental United United States participants paid $10 to reserve 1388 01:21:55,470 --> 01:21:58,440 their place in line. The proceeds were donated to local 1389 01:21:58,440 --> 01:22:01,410 charities to fight hunger and homelessness, and help those in 1390 01:22:01,410 --> 01:22:07,080 poverty. I mean, it would have been it would have been cool. If 1391 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:13,260 you could hook up a big ass battery to one hand. Do you 1392 01:22:13,260 --> 01:22:16,740 think it would go through all the tell those people? Joke? The 1393 01:22:16,740 --> 01:22:21,000 guy Kazem dude, both Tehsil 1394 01:22:21,540 --> 01:22:24,690 Well, the problem was is when all is said and done, they 1395 01:22:24,690 --> 01:22:25,350 weren't the gaps 1396 01:22:25,380 --> 01:22:28,050 all over the apps. They never made it that that was like it 1397 01:22:28,050 --> 01:22:30,510 was a disappointment because we didn't pull it off. You know, we 1398 01:22:30,510 --> 01:22:31,770 failed fail. 1399 01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:34,620 Well, they didn't fail making a lot of money. 1400 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:38,040 That's a big meme. Now these days fail. Have you noticed 1401 01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,740 that? Yeah, it's a me no. Yeah, no, yeah. It's you see 1402 01:22:40,740 --> 01:22:44,820 photoshopped pictures of like Bernanke and Paulson in in 1403 01:22:44,820 --> 01:22:48,240 Congress. And then behind them? A guy holding up a sign fail? 1404 01:22:49,140 --> 01:22:52,800 Really? Yeah, it's I mean, that to me, that's a good one. It's 1405 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:53,490 fun. Well, I 1406 01:22:53,490 --> 01:22:54,870 have to start using it then. Yes, 1407 01:22:54,899 --> 01:22:57,899 let's we should use it here on this very show. We need to nail 1408 01:22:59,939 --> 01:23:02,399 well, sometimes this whole show was fail. 1409 01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:06,210 Actually, we I don't think we really had a totally dog. 1410 01:23:06,569 --> 01:23:10,169 Dog Show. No, no, we've been pretty like, well, it really 1411 01:23:10,169 --> 01:23:12,479 depends, though. And gosh, it's so important for me to be 1412 01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:13,949 somewhere else away from you. 1413 01:23:14,489 --> 01:23:17,729 Well did not for no other reason that your connection is better. 1414 01:23:19,050 --> 01:23:23,070 I'm convinced that's my router. I gotta I gotta fix that. But I 1415 01:23:23,070 --> 01:23:25,020 get a new router. But I don't know if I'm gonna be in San 1416 01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:26,850 Francisco before the end of the year. I'm going to be in New 1417 01:23:26,850 --> 01:23:30,510 York. Got to do some sales, sales stuff hitting the road. 1418 01:23:32,130 --> 01:23:33,840 Well, New York's a short trip for you. 1419 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,929 It's a good trip. Yeah. Right now, there's only four hours 1420 01:23:36,929 --> 01:23:39,749 time difference between London and New York, which is 1421 01:23:39,780 --> 01:23:42,120 Yeah, no, if I lived in New York, I'd probably be going back 1422 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,640 and forth to London or Paris constantly. Because it seems 1423 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,580 like a good weekend thing to do. It's inconvenient from here 1424 01:23:47,580 --> 01:23:50,430 because it adds another four or five hours and just forget it. 1425 01:23:50,550 --> 01:23:52,740 Ergo having my own aircraft. 1426 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,520 Right. Well for you. I mean, going to Paris is like you know, 1427 01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,460 or, you know, Holland has got just an hour or so for you. 1428 01:23:59,460 --> 01:24:00,090 Right? How long does it 1429 01:24:00,089 --> 01:24:06,659 take? Holland Rotterdam about an hour? Paris would be about an 1430 01:24:07,019 --> 01:24:08,249 hour 45 1431 01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:13,920 Yeah. Do they like give you landed in Paris? Yes. Do you go 1432 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,990 to the wine countries like Bordeaux? It'd be a nice little 1433 01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:16,650 place to fly. 1434 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:18,630 No, I've not done that yet. 1435 01:24:18,630 --> 01:24:20,430 There's a that's a little further 1436 01:24:20,460 --> 01:24:24,090 where where most pilots from the UK go if you just want to go to 1437 01:24:24,090 --> 01:24:27,090 France is lit toolkit. 1438 01:24:28,620 --> 01:24:29,370 Where's that? 1439 01:24:30,420 --> 01:24:31,800 That's a coastal 1440 01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:35,909 to Normandy or something like that. 1441 01:24:35,910 --> 01:24:38,010 And now confused. I don't know if that's what it's called. I 1442 01:24:38,010 --> 01:24:42,060 don't think it's the 2k Maybe it is the 2k that's how they 1443 01:24:42,060 --> 01:24:43,410 pronounce it here. The 2k. 1444 01:24:43,830 --> 01:24:46,650 I think the place to go if I were you or if I was visiting 1445 01:24:46,650 --> 01:24:49,200 and you wanted to go somewhere. I think champagne. 1446 01:24:50,370 --> 01:24:53,400 Well, the good thing is there's airfields everywhere. I mean, 1447 01:24:53,460 --> 01:24:56,580 and you can you can almost just say, Okay, I want to land 1448 01:24:56,580 --> 01:24:58,290 somewhere over there and there's going to be an airstrip. 1449 01:24:59,550 --> 01:25:02,040 Well, I'm sure is a bunch of air strips into the champagne area 1450 01:25:02,460 --> 01:25:05,190 just random just based on a 1451 01:25:05,220 --> 01:25:08,070 grass strips you know just the kind of stuff you can pop in and 1452 01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:11,400 out of and you pay the guy or whatever you know basically 1453 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:12,090 donation 1454 01:25:15,509 --> 01:25:18,419 people doing that maybe you're flying over France and there's 1455 01:25:18,419 --> 01:25:22,049 little airstrip you land and give the guy some money and you 1456 01:25:22,049 --> 01:25:24,419 need leisure. Let's just sit there how do you get what do you 1457 01:25:24,419 --> 01:25:27,119 need it we do have a car and there's no car rental place. 1458 01:25:28,140 --> 01:25:31,170 John, this is this is aviation man. I mean, this is this is the 1459 01:25:31,170 --> 01:25:33,810 hardcore stuff. Now you can usually you'd like rent a car in 1460 01:25:33,810 --> 01:25:35,670 the in the States, you can do this all over the place. You 1461 01:25:35,670 --> 01:25:39,810 know, same in many of these smaller fields you know for in 1462 01:25:39,810 --> 01:25:42,780 the States, you can be five bucks. You can rent a car and 1463 01:25:42,780 --> 01:25:44,070 it's basically just someone's car 1464 01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:53,760 it's just a car, you know that that's how it works. Sometimes 1465 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:58,860 it's like a real proper budget, but usually it's or hurts. But 1466 01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:01,260 yeah, usually it's just a car, you know, the end they'll take 1467 01:26:01,260 --> 01:26:06,390 they have local restaurants and you know, they have hookups. If 1468 01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:08,790 you go to the Isle of Wight, you know when you're arriving you 1469 01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:14,100 can say hey, we're going to the the lobster pub. Okay, we'll 1470 01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:18,450 have a cab ready for you. You land cab takes you up there. 1471 01:26:18,450 --> 01:26:21,480 Doom. Yeah, you have some lunch. It's nice. Like we got to do 1472 01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:24,780 that when you're over here. Yeah, afternoon. It sounds like 1473 01:26:24,780 --> 01:26:26,460 you have to cook on my Agha. 1474 01:26:27,630 --> 01:26:29,760 So I'm thinking about this. I don't want to bring in a little 1475 01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,130 paranoia in this. But I was thinking about this August 1476 01:26:32,130 --> 01:26:36,660 thing. I'm thinking grindy I want you to run this past your 1477 01:26:36,660 --> 01:26:40,020 wife. Okay? Because she's, she seems to be more in agreement 1478 01:26:40,020 --> 01:26:44,250 with my views, and often when they're when I consider 1479 01:26:44,250 --> 01:26:45,480 something to be a setup. 1480 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:50,460 Well, that's because you guys are from World War Two. 1481 01:26:52,260 --> 01:26:57,900 So anyway, the I'm thinking, well, maybe they gotta keep an 1482 01:26:57,900 --> 01:27:01,050 eye on Adam. So what are we gonna do? He's gonna move into 1483 01:27:01,050 --> 01:27:03,960 this new place. Well, how are we going to do this? Well, I'll 1484 01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,270 tell you what, why don't we listen to what he really you 1485 01:27:06,270 --> 01:27:09,390 know, some of his tastes, and let's get a place and let's wire 1486 01:27:09,390 --> 01:27:12,870 it up with microphones. And how we're going to make him buy this 1487 01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:18,420 place. I know exactly how to do it. Let's put an AGA in it and 1488 01:27:18,420 --> 01:27:21,840 I'll tell you this idiots gonna buy the place and he'll be in 1489 01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,780 there we'll have the whole place wired and we can listen to his 1490 01:27:24,780 --> 01:27:32,160 conversations 24/7 Just in case and bingo. I originally thought 1491 01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:36,750 it this has been not that I'm thinking in these terms normally 1492 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,950 is because what a coincidence that out of 1493 01:27:40,949 --> 01:27:46,079 the blue a house of yours that my wife house appears she's in 1494 01:27:46,079 --> 01:27:49,739 on it. She's a she's a shill. She's part of this black flag 1495 01:27:49,739 --> 01:27:50,429 operation 1496 01:27:51,870 --> 01:27:55,320 out of the blue just as you're looking for a place there's a 1497 01:27:55,320 --> 01:28:00,960 another house with the stove you love which are rare by the way 1498 01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,210 this is not for people who want to know about this stuff. I've 1499 01:28:03,210 --> 01:28:06,120 never heard of anybody even owning one. Now we have two of 1500 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:15,030 them. It shows up and you like being reeled in our house. So 1501 01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:18,540 here's what I here's my thinking, Okay, you gotta get a 1502 01:28:18,540 --> 01:28:21,330 guy Oh, look, there could be hard wires, which is harder to 1503 01:28:21,330 --> 01:28:24,300 deal with in than bugs that are you know, sending out 1504 01:28:24,300 --> 01:28:30,300 transmissions you have to bring an expert, a bug expert, to go 1505 01:28:30,300 --> 01:28:32,910 through your house and make sure that places and wired for sound. 1506 01:28:33,660 --> 01:28:36,990 Now I think quite the opposite. I need to find the main 1507 01:28:36,990 --> 01:28:40,020 transmission unit and then I gotta jack that shit into the 1508 01:28:40,020 --> 01:28:44,910 net. So we can stream that for a fee. I totally 1509 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:50,520 do. That's this is good. But anyway, that was a thought that 1510 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,550 passed my mind. You know, it's not like I'm you know, paranoid 1511 01:28:53,550 --> 01:28:57,180 as you are. But I'd run it past your wife and she was she thinks 1512 01:28:57,210 --> 01:28:57,690 Okay, 1513 01:28:57,719 --> 01:29:01,889 I'll ask her. I think she'll she may give it some thought. I 1514 01:29:01,889 --> 01:29:05,699 don't know. I don't know. She's coming back in about an hour or 1515 01:29:05,699 --> 01:29:10,649 so. Man's outrageous audience again last night, her first live 1516 01:29:10,649 --> 01:29:11,039 show. 1517 01:29:13,170 --> 01:29:15,180 Yeah, yeah. As like 1518 01:29:15,179 --> 01:29:17,309 35% market share is unbelievable. 1519 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,610 But nothing probably has legs, then she'll be making money for 1520 01:29:20,610 --> 01:29:21,720 a few years on that deal. 1521 01:29:21,989 --> 01:29:25,769 Yeah, well is that she starts Hollins got talent in February. 1522 01:29:26,699 --> 01:29:29,969 So it's just she just bops from one to the other. It's awesome. 1523 01:29:30,269 --> 01:29:31,709 As she saw multitalented 1524 01:29:34,020 --> 01:29:36,120 Well, you know, it's it sounds like easy money. 1525 01:29:36,660 --> 01:29:39,810 But I keep telling her she's she's buying me my next plane. 1526 01:29:40,890 --> 01:29:43,410 Yeah, you can get nice. What do you think you're gonna get? 1527 01:29:44,340 --> 01:29:47,910 Well, but yet you're out you got a twin engine in mind. Not 1528 01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:50,640 necessarily. There's a really blast around and one of those 1529 01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:51,600 things. Well, 1530 01:29:52,620 --> 01:29:57,510 yeah, I don't know. I mean, I like the Piper meridian, which 1531 01:29:57,510 --> 01:30:02,400 is pressurised single engine, Turbo prop which you know the 1532 01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,070 you know the requirement is it has to have steps in the back 1533 01:30:05,070 --> 01:30:08,100 that open up otherwise my wife won't fly with me over the ocean 1534 01:30:09,180 --> 01:30:12,390 and so I don't want to get high enough so that you know there's 1535 01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:16,050 no turbulence so that's when the wind you pressurise but also, 1536 01:30:16,230 --> 01:30:19,560 what was the ceiling on that thing? 22,000 feet. 1537 01:30:20,099 --> 01:30:22,769 Now you're getting tickets high enough, but okay. Oh 1538 01:30:22,769 --> 01:30:23,519 yeah it is. 1539 01:30:23,549 --> 01:30:26,159 It's right in the middle of the clouds at 22 isn't a 1540 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:31,350 whole 22,000 feet. No, you're way above the clouds. 1541 01:30:31,620 --> 01:30:34,290 And I remember one time I was flying across country on some 1542 01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,530 one of the first 760 sevens in the you know, they typically fly 1543 01:30:37,530 --> 01:30:41,970 around 36,000 feet, and they were bumping the pilot says 1544 01:30:42,390 --> 01:30:45,540 it depends on where you are, obviously a mountainous terrain 1545 01:30:45,570 --> 01:30:47,670 will give you different height results. 1546 01:30:47,940 --> 01:30:51,330 And the pilot says we're gonna go up to 42,000 feet because the 1547 01:30:51,330 --> 01:30:54,450 767 just shoots right up to 42,000 feet where there's no 1548 01:30:54,450 --> 01:30:57,390 turbulence and we shot up the 40s and it was just like smooth 1549 01:30:57,390 --> 01:31:00,960 as and I'm always thinking you need to get to 42,000 feet to 1550 01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:02,280 avoid all turbulence 1551 01:31:02,310 --> 01:31:05,610 so so you know those clouds sometimes you see when you have 1552 01:31:05,610 --> 01:31:09,000 that turbulence of those, it's really the columnist Nimbus 1553 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,040 cloud and it reaches up to 42,000 1554 01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,130 feet, the Nimbus Yeah, the Nimbus. 1555 01:31:15,180 --> 01:31:19,200 What's crazy is is you know, so you see those at the bottom. So 1556 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,360 you and you're you're flying around and a couple 1000 feet, 1557 01:31:21,630 --> 01:31:24,810 and if you were to fly into one of those, you actually this has 1558 01:31:24,810 --> 01:31:28,260 happened before you can get sucked up to 40,000 feet and 1559 01:31:28,260 --> 01:31:32,370 then blown down again. Being Wow, oh, yeah. Nobody ever wants 1560 01:31:32,370 --> 01:31:35,370 to fly into one of those regardless of how big the 1561 01:31:35,370 --> 01:31:35,970 aeroplane 1562 01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:38,910 Yeah, I've heard that that a Nimbus is a cloud that you do 1563 01:31:38,940 --> 01:31:41,940 that you fly way around. I was in Texas once flying out of 1564 01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:48,690 Dallas, on a on a pilot, it was a DMD 80 or something like that. 1565 01:31:48,690 --> 01:31:52,380 And a guy really liked. And he went and he and he flew around, 1566 01:31:52,380 --> 01:31:54,870 it was a huge pile of these Nimbus is there all over the 1567 01:31:54,870 --> 01:31:58,890 place. And so he was flying in on banking heavy bags and going 1568 01:31:58,890 --> 01:32:01,470 around one going around the other. It was actually one of 1569 01:32:01,470 --> 01:32:04,170 the most fun flights I've ever been on for a commercial flight 1570 01:32:04,170 --> 01:32:07,800 because this guy was just, you know, really taken it around. 1571 01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:11,460 Yeah. And we, you know, I missed every one of them. He just went 1572 01:32:11,460 --> 01:32:13,620 around. I mean, he just like there was a little map, I guess 1573 01:32:13,620 --> 01:32:17,040 he had of how to get through the mess, and never went through a 1574 01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:18,570 cloud. He didn't want to hit one. It's 1575 01:32:18,569 --> 01:32:22,949 called radar, John. Okay, the little map work or weather 1576 01:32:22,949 --> 01:32:23,429 radar. 1577 01:32:24,510 --> 01:32:27,390 So, but anyway, yeah, he was flying. It was actually quite 1578 01:32:27,390 --> 01:32:27,720 which, by 1579 01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,000 the way, a lot of people don't understand that, you know, the 1580 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,580 whole point of being an aeroplane in the sky is that you 1581 01:32:32,580 --> 01:32:35,940 can actually not fly into the rain cloud, you know, sometimes 1582 01:32:35,940 --> 01:32:39,270 unavoidable the direction you're going but lots of times, you 1583 01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:41,370 know, it's like I don't want to go you know, it'll take me five 1584 01:32:41,370 --> 01:32:44,340 minutes longer if I just go around it. Right. That's, 1585 01:32:44,340 --> 01:32:48,660 that's, that's pretty common stuff. But yeah, so he basically 1586 01:32:48,660 --> 01:32:50,070 he did not want to fly through it. 1587 01:32:50,790 --> 01:32:55,740 No. And Dube was really to tell you the view because you get to 1588 01:32:55,740 --> 01:32:58,200 see all these big Nimbus is which are, I think, is one of 1589 01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:03,030 the prettiest clouds there are beauty spectacular. And it 1590 01:33:03,060 --> 01:33:06,540 happens to be a Nimbus, which has decided to become a 1591 01:33:06,540 --> 01:33:10,320 thunderstorm where you see the light inside the cloud. You 1592 01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,770 know, it makes it look like a light show ping, ping. It's 1593 01:33:14,010 --> 01:33:18,330 quite a sight. One time I was flying to Chicago, this was an 1594 01:33:18,330 --> 01:33:20,910 extra with the other really great site ever saw. I saw a 1595 01:33:20,910 --> 01:33:22,890 number of things from an aeroplane I also saw the roar of 1596 01:33:22,890 --> 01:33:26,730 Borealis. But I was flying in the Chicago 1597 01:33:27,359 --> 01:33:31,229 in search of the Crystal Skull in the crystal skull. 1598 01:33:31,710 --> 01:33:35,130 So anyway, I was flying to Chicago and there were about 50 1599 01:33:35,250 --> 01:33:40,350 funnel clouds in the sky. Yeah, they're all over the place. I 1600 01:33:40,350 --> 01:33:40,830 mean, it was just 1601 01:33:42,540 --> 01:33:45,780 a little little mini funnel cloud is really kind of 1602 01:33:45,810 --> 01:33:48,630 frightening when you see a little you know that just the 1603 01:33:48,690 --> 01:33:53,130 beginning development of a funnel cloud. Yeah. It's kind of 1604 01:33:53,130 --> 01:33:53,580 scary. 1605 01:33:55,260 --> 01:33:57,570 But anyway was like But it was this was a very early in the 1606 01:33:57,570 --> 01:34:01,140 morning, and then they were lit with a kind of a golden colour 1607 01:34:01,140 --> 01:34:07,350 was just like, wow, where's the camera? Anyway, enough of that. 1608 01:34:08,939 --> 01:34:10,139 hour and a half my friend. 1609 01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,530 I guess we're done. Yeah. So we got the election coming up. Now 1610 01:34:13,530 --> 01:34:15,960 we're you want to do a special broadcast right after it? 1611 01:34:15,989 --> 01:34:20,219 Yeah, I'm thinking that. Let's see. It probably will have 1612 01:34:20,219 --> 01:34:23,219 probably have to wait until until Wednesday, because 1613 01:34:24,329 --> 01:34:27,629 Tuesday. It'll be in the you know, like, really early 1614 01:34:27,629 --> 01:34:31,529 morning. Wednesday morning for me, I think and who knows, you 1615 01:34:31,529 --> 01:34:35,669 know, who knows what happens. We may go into recounts that maybe 1616 01:34:35,669 --> 01:34:36,929 all kinds of stuff going on, 1617 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,120 but I'm sure they're going to demand recounts here and there. 1618 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:43,950 I mean, it's that's a foregone conclusion. But there's a like, 1619 01:34:43,980 --> 01:34:48,030 apparently number of states like Mississippi have 20% more 1620 01:34:48,030 --> 01:34:49,950 registered voters in the population. 1621 01:34:52,140 --> 01:34:55,890 Have you seen Hacking Democracy? Have you seen that? HBO special? 1622 01:34:56,340 --> 01:35:00,360 No. Oh, oh, you really need to see it. It came out to I think 1623 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:05,910 it was over a year ago. And it's basically these grandmothers and 1624 01:35:05,910 --> 01:35:08,220 don't think really old grandmothers, but you know, 60 1625 01:35:08,220 --> 01:35:12,480 year old grandmothers, and they go to find out if if the voting 1626 01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:15,240 machines actually can be manipulated, and well, I won't 1627 01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:21,210 spoil the ending for you. Right, but it's, it's about you should 1628 01:35:22,170 --> 01:35:26,160 there's a link from curry.com check the show notes from the 1629 01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,560 daily source code. I talked about it, it was really 1630 01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:36,180 phenomenal Hacking Democracy. Really will surprise you it was 1631 01:35:36,180 --> 01:35:36,780 possible. 1632 01:35:37,470 --> 01:35:41,460 Well, I'm whatever the case is, you know, whether it's Obama and 1633 01:35:41,460 --> 01:35:42,600 Sarah Palin winning, 1634 01:35:43,260 --> 01:35:47,130 or for that, man, I get horny no matter who I think of 1635 01:35:47,699 --> 01:35:50,909 and, or would be, you know, McCain and whoever he's I guess 1636 01:35:50,909 --> 01:35:52,529 Biden's running with him. I'm not sure. 1637 01:35:56,069 --> 01:36:02,789 All right, my friend. All right. Okay. Well, I'm gonna be here 1638 01:36:02,789 --> 01:36:06,269 for I think, at least another week, so probably, well, after 1639 01:36:06,269 --> 01:36:08,879 the election, that's what we'll do the next show, maybe the day 1640 01:36:08,879 --> 01:36:12,149 after the election. Okay. Until then, I'm coming to you from 1641 01:36:12,149 --> 01:36:14,609 Gitmo nation east. I'm Adam curry, 1642 01:36:15,239 --> 01:36:18,149 and I'm up here in northern Silicon Valley, also known as 1643 01:36:18,179 --> 01:36:21,779 get more Nation. I'm John C. Dvorak. 1644 01:36:22,199 --> 01:36:25,139 We'll talk again next week right here on no agenda.