1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,030 Yeah, you're fully crap. Adam curry, 2 00:00:03,090 --> 00:00:07,530 John C. Dvorak. On June 3 2012. Time for your gizmo nation media 3 00:00:07,530 --> 00:00:14,670 assassination episode 414. This is no agenda, celebrating our 4 00:00:14,670 --> 00:00:18,240 tungsten Jubilee here at Camp MoPhO in the capital of the 5 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:22,320 drone Star State Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,370 curry and from 7 00:00:23,370 --> 00:00:29,040 Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak. Hill. 8 00:00:31,650 --> 00:00:35,040 Opening with a stinger. Nice. 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,410 Whatever it takes. 10 00:00:37,950 --> 00:00:41,010 Wow, man, are we in the vacation period? Or what I mean, we've 11 00:00:41,010 --> 00:00:46,860 got nothing but Diamond Jubilee on TV. And the crazy thing is 12 00:00:46,860 --> 00:00:50,970 shows are off the Diamond Jubilee, which apparently you 13 00:00:50,970 --> 00:00:58,230 can celebrate on your 60th year of top elitist. I mean, the way 14 00:00:58,230 --> 00:01:00,960 I remember time it was 50 now diamond 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,150 is gold. 75 now 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,650 is gold 75 sentences that 17 00:01:07,650 --> 00:01:13,140 had that that I'm practicing to be Erin Burnett. No. 50 is gold. 18 00:01:13,140 --> 00:01:17,850 75 as diamond. It's a nothing 60 isn't even anything you know, 19 00:01:17,850 --> 00:01:21,090 you're not supposed to get any thing at 60 They're probably 20 00:01:21,390 --> 00:01:22,590 going on and on about it 21 00:01:22,590 --> 00:01:27,360 to distract everybody. And the stupid slaves. I mean, I see. 22 00:01:27,810 --> 00:01:30,360 You know all the reports. You've got all the reporters in England 23 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,960 it's raining it's the coldest day of the coldest spring day 24 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:37,530 ever in Europe today. It is raining is coming down in 25 00:01:37,530 --> 00:01:41,640 buckets. And the stupid slaves are standing there with their 26 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,300 with their flags. Oh wait, I can't wait to see the old lady. 27 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,420 She's coming the old lady in her golden carriage 28 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:51,570 on that's why I didn't realize this was going on. I wasn't 29 00:01:51,660 --> 00:01:55,170 obviously following the English stuff by every time I turned on 30 00:01:55,170 --> 00:01:59,130 the TV, they had a thing on one of the BBC shows where we're at 31 00:01:59,130 --> 00:02:03,990 Prince Charles discovered some old home movies made by the 32 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:04,530 shooting 33 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,800 shooting elephants in Africa. No doubt. I actually 34 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,040 just heard playing with him when he was a little little one year 35 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,210 old toddler. And it was actually kind of funny, but it was like 36 00:02:15,750 --> 00:02:17,730 it is showing me this just 37 00:02:17,730 --> 00:02:21,180 never ceases to amaze me how easily distracted people are or 38 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:25,230 maybe they're just like, so happy to have a reason to party. 39 00:02:25,890 --> 00:02:30,600 I don't know it's it's baffling to me. Although I have to say 40 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,590 there's actually there is some interesting television going on 41 00:02:34,590 --> 00:02:39,120 CNN has done something interesting for once. And now 42 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,540 that of course piers more on had to go back to the UK to 43 00:02:42,540 --> 00:02:48,600 celebrate the the really the get arrested Queen lizard or you 44 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,870 might not even be there. So they had these guest hosts and that's 45 00:02:51,870 --> 00:02:55,350 pretty interesting. Harvey Weinstein did did a guest I 46 00:02:55,350 --> 00:02:59,040 wanted to see it. Yeah, it was good. And I saw Regis Philbin 47 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,670 with David Letterman. Outstanding interview I thought, 48 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,180 you know, I mean, totally on its inside baseball, I think very 49 00:03:06,180 --> 00:03:09,480 uninteresting. For for the normal public be like who are 50 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:14,190 these tool guys. But you know, I thought, you know, that's 51 00:03:14,190 --> 00:03:17,010 actually entertaining. I sat down like, Oh, my God, I 52 00:03:17,250 --> 00:03:19,800 actually said to miss Mickey, I said, I'll be right there. I'm 53 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,610 watching CNN and I'm engaged. Can't believe it. 54 00:03:23,970 --> 00:03:25,920 Yeah, let's because you have people that are somewhat 55 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:28,710 engaging, as opposed to Piers Morgan who just seems like a 56 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:31,440 stiff. Yeah. 57 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,960 But there is stuff happening, for sure. And I have to say, I'm 58 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:43,230 getting worried. I'm really getting worried that you know, 59 00:03:43,230 --> 00:03:48,390 we've thought who was the who was the douche. Cass Sunstein 60 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:50,730 has named Cass Sunstein. 61 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,330 Cass Sunstein. Yeah, yeah, he said, Nagler, 62 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,570 right. He said, You know, we have to infiltrate these groups 63 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,330 and working from the inside. And I think it's pretty much 64 00:04:00,330 --> 00:04:07,260 happened. At this point. There is the, and I see it on no 65 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:10,320 agenda, news network.com. I'm going to start clearing that up. 66 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:14,040 Because people have to have added a lot of still a lot of 67 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,710 these sites that aggregate stuff, and I like some of them, 68 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:20,730 but you know, you get like Activist Post. And so the way we 69 00:04:20,730 --> 00:04:23,880 said No, Joe news network.com up is you can just add an RSS feed. 70 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,230 And the idea is you create a blog somewhere, add your own RSS 71 00:04:28,230 --> 00:04:30,270 feed, if you find something interesting you post about it 72 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:33,450 shows up on the news network. And so I'm kind of battling 73 00:04:33,450 --> 00:04:37,110 where people like, and this is a great source of news, though, 74 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:39,960 you know, every week there's a deletion of infowars.com It's 75 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,300 like, no, that's not a great source of news. That's an 76 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:45,180 aggregator of stuff. And it all has to be vetted. We got to look 77 00:04:45,180 --> 00:04:49,260 at it. And then we still have a couple of guys like the dead man 78 00:04:49,260 --> 00:04:54,420 and a WT I mean, they're really doing a great job and finding 79 00:04:54,420 --> 00:04:57,630 stuff and posting on their own feed. And that but there's stuff 80 00:04:57,630 --> 00:05:00,360 coming through that really has me worried this and actually I 81 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,640 watched some C span there was something going on this and 82 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,180 everyone's on top of this, the ITU, I'm sure that you read 83 00:05:09,180 --> 00:05:14,700 about this. You read the story, the ITU, the ITU, what they what 84 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:17,250 did they do now? Well, so the ITU is the International 85 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:23,700 Telecommunications Union, United Nations outfit. And so there was 86 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:30,330 a hearing at on the hill, and the hearing was about, and I 87 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,030 remember I told you, you can, you could look it up in the Red 88 00:05:33,030 --> 00:05:36,660 Book. I said, I can there's something weird going on at 89 00:05:36,660 --> 00:05:40,620 ICANN. These are the guys who control the the internet names. 90 00:05:41,010 --> 00:05:46,950 And indirectly, the the root domain servers. And, you know, 91 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:52,140 the previous shield just got retired. And he has all kinds of 92 00:05:52,140 --> 00:05:56,280 stuff going on. And so Vint Cerf is on the hill. And he's 93 00:05:56,280 --> 00:06:03,960 testifying. Because the the word is, and if you look at the ITU 94 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,480 website, they don't, there's no actual mention of it. But there 95 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,650 was an interview, I think, in Vanity Fair, of all places. Are 96 00:06:10,650 --> 00:06:13,980 you? Are you talking to someone else? No, or maybe just some 97 00:06:13,980 --> 00:06:22,140 feedback that the head of the ITU wants to take over the 98 00:06:22,350 --> 00:06:27,570 function functioning of ICANN. And, of course, I'm against all 99 00:06:27,570 --> 00:06:31,020 United Nations organization. So that's not a good thing. But 100 00:06:31,020 --> 00:06:34,980 then when I just hear how this and this is the 30 seconds, 101 00:06:35,130 --> 00:06:38,700 within the first 30 seconds of this two and a half hour, the 102 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:42,480 Senate testimony, I knew this thing was rigged. Listen to 103 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:48,030 this. This is the chairman. He's Greg Walden, Republican from 104 00:06:48,030 --> 00:06:52,200 Oregon. Morning, I want to welcome our witnesses and 105 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,070 appreciate their testimony today. This is the Subcommittee 106 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:58,980 on communications and technology in our hearing on international 107 00:06:58,980 --> 00:07:02,640 proposals to regulate the internet, nations from across 108 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,000 the globe, we'll meet at a United Nations forum in Dubai at 109 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,360 the end of this year, and if we're not vigilant, just might 110 00:07:09,390 --> 00:07:12,330 break the internet by subjecting it to an international 111 00:07:12,330 --> 00:07:16,950 regulatory regime, designed for old fashioned telephone service. 112 00:07:17,010 --> 00:07:21,390 Okay, so the setup is there, I need to watch no further really, 113 00:07:21,750 --> 00:07:25,530 it's like, okay, so we know what your agenda is, Mr. Chairman, 114 00:07:25,650 --> 00:07:30,450 they're gonna break the internet. And the concept of 115 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:33,840 breaking the internet is pretty vast. If you really know the 116 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,290 technical workings of it. The only thing that can really be 117 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:40,890 broken, I think, at this point, is the domain name system. 118 00:07:40,890 --> 00:07:43,830 That's what this is all about. So then, there's a lot of 119 00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:46,740 testimony and Vint Cerf, who I would like to remind everybody 120 00:07:46,740 --> 00:07:53,700 is he works for Google. Okay. He works for Google. Now, Google 121 00:07:53,700 --> 00:07:57,360 has a stake in this. And I could play you clips of his testimony. 122 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,060 But I found the written testimony to be more important, 123 00:08:00,060 --> 00:08:04,860 because I'm finding this more and more. Because there's a lot 124 00:08:04,860 --> 00:08:07,980 of stuff in there that the they don't say, in the actual 125 00:08:07,980 --> 00:08:11,460 testimony. But that but the real record is what their written 126 00:08:11,460 --> 00:08:16,710 testimony is. And I just you know, I am you. I want you to 127 00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:19,620 follow along and tell me if you think I'm off base here, because 128 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:25,050 I think something nefarious is happening. So he starts off with 129 00:08:25,050 --> 00:08:28,020 this. Chairman Walden, Ranking Member Eshoo, members of 130 00:08:28,020 --> 00:08:30,750 subcommittee, first of all, he talks about his you know, 131 00:08:30,990 --> 00:08:34,920 there's his background VP, Chief Internet Evangelist at Google 132 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,100 Inc. I always want away from people with an evangelist title. 133 00:08:38,850 --> 00:08:44,460 I also serve as a fellow for the the I II, and last week, he was 134 00:08:44,460 --> 00:08:47,100 elected as president of the American Association for the 135 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:49,650 Advancement of Science. What do you know about that 136 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,930 organization? Is that anything valid? 137 00:08:52,230 --> 00:08:53,640 I think it's a drinking club. That's 138 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,200 what I thought. And then here's something weird. If I would be 139 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,400 testifying on the Hill about podcasting, I can pretty much 140 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,620 guarantee you there's one thing I would not say, I would not 141 00:09:04,620 --> 00:09:07,710 say, you know, I'm the pod father. I mean, do you think the 142 00:09:07,740 --> 00:09:09,960 How does that sound? Would that sound kind of? 143 00:09:10,770 --> 00:09:15,390 I love that. I'd love to hear you say that. On the hill. Yeah. 144 00:09:15,420 --> 00:09:18,750 Don't you think people go like, what a douchebag? Oh, yeah. 145 00:09:19,140 --> 00:09:22,770 Okay. Well, hearing his testimony. As one of the fathers 146 00:09:22,770 --> 00:09:27,330 of the internet, and a computer scientist. I care deeply about 147 00:09:27,330 --> 00:09:30,270 issues relating to the internet's infrastructure. I 148 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:35,730 found that to be kind of douchey. You know, you don't 149 00:09:35,730 --> 00:09:36,630 think that's douchey 150 00:09:37,140 --> 00:09:40,470 it's not it's not flattering? No. 151 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,250 Okay, so he's here to do in this testimony, which is only three 152 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:47,640 pages, the internet and the ITU. So he starts off, and that's the 153 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,890 subheading. After its inception as a US government project after 154 00:09:53,580 --> 00:09:57,030 the internet has been decentralized to maximize the 155 00:09:57,030 --> 00:10:02,760 effectiveness of open bottom up multi stakeholder approach. I 156 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,830 found that to be factually incorrect. Why? It was oh, it 157 00:10:07,830 --> 00:10:12,720 was the concept of the internet. I mean, DARPA net was not the 158 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:17,220 internet. DARPA was DARPA net. The internet is decentralized by 159 00:10:17,220 --> 00:10:22,080 DARPA. I'm sorry ARPANET by DARPA. DARPA inside. So that's 160 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,160 kind of a I find that to be a little misleading to say after 161 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,090 its inception. The internet has been decentralized. The Internet 162 00:10:30,090 --> 00:10:33,660 is a decentralized network. And the only core protocol that 163 00:10:33,660 --> 00:10:39,630 matters is TCP IP. Many multistakeholder organizations 164 00:10:39,630 --> 00:10:41,640 have played a fundamental role in Internet governance and 165 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:46,140 evolution. These include non the nonprofit ICANN, that oversees 166 00:10:46,140 --> 00:10:49,350 the handling of domain names. So now he's setting up the ICANN 167 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:52,050 and he talks about the Internet Society, which by the way, are a 168 00:10:52,050 --> 00:10:58,170 bunch of elitist pricks. Now back in 92, all of this was 169 00:10:58,170 --> 00:11:02,460 coming about, you know, we had the Internet Society, the EFF 170 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,490 and I tried to join these organizations and was shunned 171 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,050 you know, they wouldn't even return a call or an email. I 172 00:11:10,050 --> 00:11:13,710 mean, have you ever decided on this drinking club the the ISOC, 173 00:11:13,740 --> 00:11:14,910 the Internet Society? 174 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,110 No, no, but I You're probably right. 175 00:11:19,260 --> 00:11:22,380 And I remember my domain name dispute with MTV, I went 176 00:11:22,380 --> 00:11:25,590 straight to John Perry Barlow eff to like nah. Now we're not 177 00:11:25,590 --> 00:11:29,460 going to help you because they're elitist pricks. For 178 00:11:29,460 --> 00:11:32,280 example, although ICANN has representatives from all regions 179 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,470 of the world on his board, more international voices could be 180 00:11:34,470 --> 00:11:37,770 added. So he wants to keep ICANN going. Because there's a lot as 181 00:11:37,770 --> 00:11:40,500 we've already discussed in a previous show, I can probably 182 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:42,630 point to that one in the show notes. There's a lot going on 183 00:11:42,630 --> 00:11:45,810 with ICANN there, I do not think they're kosher at all. But 184 00:11:45,810 --> 00:11:47,970 here's the pitch that have been served. This is what I was 185 00:11:47,970 --> 00:11:51,690 getting to. Quoting from him. We also need to work together to 186 00:11:51,690 --> 00:11:55,470 create and refine voluntary develop codes of conduct. A US 187 00:11:55,470 --> 00:11:58,770 based nonprofit called the global network initiative is a 188 00:11:58,770 --> 00:12:03,000 great example. Ah, okay. And then he goes on to talk about 189 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,530 this. Je N ai, this is the one we've got to look at. And I want 190 00:12:07,530 --> 00:12:13,380 you to go to global network initiative.org. So you could 191 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:16,920 take a look at who's in on this. And they have some core 192 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,240 documents, which I've of course read for so you don't have to. 193 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,370 And right here on their homepage. The whole thing is 194 00:12:26,370 --> 00:12:30,390 about human rights, John, human rights, human rights in the 195 00:12:30,390 --> 00:12:33,930 internet. And of course, there are only really three founding 196 00:12:33,930 --> 00:12:40,500 members of this outfit, and that is Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft. 197 00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:44,790 And they are planning to take everything over and that's why 198 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:49,050 Vint Cerf is out there shilling on the hill. Is they they want 199 00:12:49,050 --> 00:12:53,580 the GNI to be the one that makes all the rules. And if you look 200 00:12:53,580 --> 00:12:58,590 at who's on the on the Bois just look at staff if you if you will 201 00:12:58,590 --> 00:13:03,210 the GNI staff and you can look at the board of directors. The 202 00:13:03,210 --> 00:13:06,360 executive director here Susan Morgan, I wonder if you know any 203 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,680 of these people. Susan Morga. Morgan, British Telecom shill 204 00:13:10,830 --> 00:13:16,800 the independent chair former right you're getting this global 205 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,130 network initiative not on the site, but I've downloaded the 206 00:13:20,370 --> 00:13:23,010 wallet no just on the site itself. Click on about 207 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,590 and yes damn thing instead of loading it separately, which 208 00:13:28,590 --> 00:13:30,660 says I've got this thing open. I just want to see what Susan 209 00:13:30,660 --> 00:13:32,880 Morgan's messages. Yes, he's 210 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,220 got a message. Yes, she looks 211 00:13:35,220 --> 00:13:37,800 like a Googler. She actually looks like well, she's a tear. 212 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,350 She's a big you got a picture of her. She looks like Sergei. 213 00:13:42,060 --> 00:13:43,710 She might be in fact, 214 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,390 yeah, it was Sergey. This Yes. 215 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,580 Yeah. It's Sergey and drag. Okay, so Sergey and drag is 216 00:13:50,580 --> 00:13:54,030 heading this thing off as obvious. But they just look at 217 00:13:54,030 --> 00:13:57,660 all these people, man, these these are all elitist, 218 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,710 corporatist, who wants to control the internet. And that's 219 00:14:01,710 --> 00:14:06,060 what this entire discussion is about. Is is not about. I mean, 220 00:14:06,090 --> 00:14:08,910 of course, I'm against any United Nations organization 221 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,500 running anything for us. But what 222 00:14:13,530 --> 00:14:18,090 I browse are locked up Dhobi Acrobat one or more PDF 223 00:14:18,090 --> 00:14:21,000 documents are opened inside a web browser. If you exit Acrobat 224 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,370 now those documents will be closed. Are you sure you want to 225 00:14:23,370 --> 00:14:27,210 exit and it says exit and cancel? I click nothing happens 226 00:14:27,210 --> 00:14:30,480 I click nothing happens I click the little the X in the red box 227 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,630 nothing happens. I click on do not show message again. It 228 00:14:33,630 --> 00:14:34,890 doesn't click now. I'm screwed. 229 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,710 I'm sorry. 230 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:41,610 Okay, well, let me just Ctrl Alt Delete. 231 00:14:42,780 --> 00:14:44,700 Will that break our Skype connection? Are you going to go 232 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:45,180 away? 233 00:14:45,510 --> 00:14:48,600 No, no, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna hit the I'm gonna hit the 234 00:14:48,690 --> 00:14:52,500 Wait a minute. Oh, what happened? Oh, finally came back. 235 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:54,870 Nevermind. Okay, good. Okay about 236 00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:58,290 us. Right? Just look at these people, board of directors. 237 00:14:58,290 --> 00:15:01,500 These are the people you need to be afraid Don't be afraid of 238 00:15:01,620 --> 00:15:06,930 actually gotten quite good at finding these obscure websites. 239 00:15:06,930 --> 00:15:09,480 I don't know why these people, they should just shouldn't put 240 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,900 anything online. So you got Steve crown from Microsoft. I 241 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:13,950 don't know any of these people 242 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:16,800 know. But you see the three I mean, the people who are running 243 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,660 this Microsoft, Yahoo and Google. 244 00:15:18,810 --> 00:15:21,000 Yeah, there's the the ICT companies, the independent 245 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,620 chairs, German Brookes, 246 00:15:22,770 --> 00:15:26,550 yeah, that Price Waterhouse Coopers guy but then bean 247 00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:29,850 counter Yeah, civil society organizations Human Rights Watch 248 00:15:29,850 --> 00:15:33,060 Center for Democracy and Technology Committee to Protect 249 00:15:33,060 --> 00:15:37,500 Journalists human rights first. And we know as we've discussed, 250 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,110 whenever someone is touting human rights, it's probably 251 00:15:40,110 --> 00:15:45,180 being used to shut you up one way or the other. Human Rights 252 00:15:45,180 --> 00:15:46,590 my mic, but 253 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,710 once you get to where you got the Human Rights thing, well, 254 00:15:49,710 --> 00:15:52,410 this is a board of directors board of directors I'm looking 255 00:15:52,410 --> 00:15:54,360 at it says the board is comprised it doesn't see 256 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,300 anything about human rights on this page, scroll down civil IR 257 00:15:57,690 --> 00:16:00,840 five civil society investors academic academic following 258 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,810 member serves that alternative board members NGO alternatives, 259 00:16:04,290 --> 00:16:07,170 company alternatives Google Microsoft, yet the same people? 260 00:16:07,290 --> 00:16:10,440 Yeah, the academic alternatives and worse human rights. 261 00:16:11,340 --> 00:16:14,130 Up at the top there civil society organizations. 262 00:16:16,230 --> 00:16:19,590 Oh, oh, human rights rights watch right up guy 263 00:16:19,620 --> 00:16:22,980 center for democracies and Technology Committee to Protect 264 00:16:22,980 --> 00:16:26,970 Journalists human rights first. And of course, they're all it's 265 00:16:26,970 --> 00:16:31,050 all about human rights, human rights and their whole I mean, 266 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,410 what does the internet really have to do with human rights? 267 00:16:34,980 --> 00:16:35,550 Nothing. 268 00:16:36,450 --> 00:16:38,100 But the network? 269 00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:40,650 Yeah. But they're going to be using 270 00:16:41,310 --> 00:16:45,990 human rights about Windows eight, Windows eight Human 271 00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:47,010 Rights Initiative. 272 00:16:47,580 --> 00:16:54,330 Is that is that really exist? No. Mind? Yeah. So but what's 273 00:16:54,330 --> 00:16:59,100 happening is, is everyone is focusing now on this itu. And 274 00:16:59,130 --> 00:17:03,000 oh, it's horrible. And Meantime, they're slipping in this global 275 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,970 networking initiative. And it's going to be run by some 276 00:17:05,970 --> 00:17:09,330 corporations instead of what initially was intended to be 277 00:17:09,330 --> 00:17:13,050 good was the nonprofit I can I you know, I have big questions 278 00:17:13,050 --> 00:17:19,740 about that, as you know. And at the end of the day, I, you know, 279 00:17:19,740 --> 00:17:22,800 we're really only talking about who controls the Domain Name 280 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,790 System. I don't really think, you know, this is my my own 281 00:17:26,790 --> 00:17:31,260 theory. I don't think anyone can control the network, the TCP IP 282 00:17:31,260 --> 00:17:33,630 network, because if they could we don't we'd already being 283 00:17:33,630 --> 00:17:39,510 taxed. We know Will we be no access without paying extra? I 284 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:43,260 don't I think that genies out of the bottle. And so I go break 285 00:17:43,260 --> 00:17:45,750 the domain name system, something else will be rebuilt 286 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:47,340 in its place? Well, you always 287 00:17:47,340 --> 00:17:51,690 go with the direct connections to the IP addresses. Yeah, well, 288 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,760 yeah, no, of course, that's almost going to be impossible, 289 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:59,310 because as of today, VP six is, is up and running. It's supposed 290 00:17:59,310 --> 00:18:00,660 to be replacing everything 291 00:18:00,690 --> 00:18:05,340 is that. So who's running? Who's running ipv6? Why I'm not 292 00:18:05,340 --> 00:18:08,460 running ipv6, am I? Probably no. 293 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:15,690 You might be surprised. Almost every routers got a built in. I 294 00:18:15,690 --> 00:18:17,910 didn't know you'd have to take a look at your IP at current IP 295 00:18:17,910 --> 00:18:21,060 addresses. But if it's really long and weird, which by the 296 00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:25,260 way, makes it impossible to do direct IP addressing instead, 297 00:18:25,290 --> 00:18:27,480 you know, nowadays, you could if you'd lost your domain name, you 298 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,000 could put an IP number in there. And it's pretty, you know, what 299 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,720 is it? Well, 300 00:18:31,980 --> 00:18:34,860 I just did, what's my IP address? What's my IP dot, 301 00:18:34,860 --> 00:18:37,200 Oregon? It's just a regular number. So it's 302 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,250 supposed to be up and running. Yeah. Right. Okay. So when they 303 00:18:41,250 --> 00:18:41,730 say, 304 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,960 but you understand my point that the issue that I said, the real 305 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,070 problem that I have is that the alternative news sources start 306 00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:52,200 freaking out about the wrong things and they're being 307 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,020 indoctrinated. In this case by Google. Google is really not 308 00:18:55,020 --> 00:18:57,480 your friend. I'm just not buying that they're our friend. 309 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,110 Particularly not when someone gets up there and says, I'm the 310 00:19:01,110 --> 00:19:03,870 father of the internet, do what I say. 311 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:07,440 Yeah, well, I 312 00:19:07,469 --> 00:19:09,899 think you need to be a little careful about stuff like that. 313 00:19:12,030 --> 00:19:13,050 Definitely. 314 00:19:15,060 --> 00:19:18,660 And when the when the student gets up there and says, yeah, 315 00:19:18,690 --> 00:19:20,850 they're gonna break the internet. Yeah, break the 316 00:19:20,850 --> 00:19:24,660 internet. And no one calls them on it. Excuse me. It's kind of 317 00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:28,050 bullcrap. While you're saying they're breaking the internet, 318 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,570 but if you break the DNS system you've brought, for all 319 00:19:30,570 --> 00:19:35,580 practical purposes, you broken the internet. Well, I don't 320 00:19:35,580 --> 00:19:39,120 think that's on and that's been the fear of icon all along it 321 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:42,510 these days to brainwash me with lectures about once every couple 322 00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:45,240 of years, they fly me down to San Diego, or wherever it was. 323 00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:48,090 They have their offices in the Southern California somewhere. 324 00:19:48,330 --> 00:19:51,210 And then they moan and groan about how the Russians and the 325 00:19:51,210 --> 00:19:55,020 South Africans and Brazilians and all these other douchebags 326 00:19:55,020 --> 00:19:58,740 went and Saudi Arabia want to get a hold of the internet so 327 00:19:58,740 --> 00:20:02,520 they can screw up the Don't screw it up to keep themselves 328 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,160 in power. So they don't deal with it. And then they and they 329 00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:09,030 sent and the backstory is that they don't know how DNS works, 330 00:20:09,030 --> 00:20:11,490 they're going to screw up DNS and break the internet. That's 331 00:20:11,490 --> 00:20:13,320 yeah, that's what they're talking about. Yeah. 332 00:20:13,470 --> 00:20:18,870 But we could, I mean, I have no doubt that if the, if the DNS, 333 00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:23,370 the domain name system is gets gets broken, that something else 334 00:20:23,370 --> 00:20:26,130 wouldn't emerge very quickly, when we have our own DNS server. 335 00:20:26,130 --> 00:20:28,590 I mean, I know all of us are just like, Okay, we'll just 336 00:20:28,590 --> 00:20:30,840 switch over to this, you know, there will be a start. I mean, 337 00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:32,370 it would be a huge problem. We 338 00:20:32,370 --> 00:20:35,910 have like a audience of 40. Well, that's only 339 00:20:35,910 --> 00:20:42,420 10 less. So it's not, it's not a big deal. But, you know, we've 340 00:20:42,420 --> 00:20:46,620 got to be careful, and you need a diet. A balanced diet of news 341 00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:50,910 is what I'm saying. And you can't just be looking at these 342 00:20:50,910 --> 00:20:54,000 places that are aggregating and saying, Oh, 343 00:20:54,420 --> 00:20:57,120 we're wrapping it back around to the Dogen news network 344 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:00,000 complaint. That's good. Yeah. It's a ring. 345 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:04,950 It is a ring. But the best one, the best one. And of course, now 346 00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:07,410 I'm I'm really awake. Now. I'm really looking out for this 347 00:21:07,410 --> 00:21:11,070 Fukushima bullcrap that we talked about. So here's the 348 00:21:11,070 --> 00:21:15,330 latest. And this and you know, now that I see all of these 349 00:21:16,020 --> 00:21:19,980 stories aggregated, US Army General says the whole northern 350 00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:23,820 hemisphere is at risk of becoming largely uninhabitable. 351 00:21:26,550 --> 00:21:28,170 I like that. And this one's 352 00:21:28,170 --> 00:21:32,220 propagated far and wide, John, it's all over the place. And 353 00:21:32,220 --> 00:21:35,160 everyone's copying basically the same story. And so um, so I had 354 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,890 like, Okay, I gotta trace this one back. And of course, you 355 00:21:37,890 --> 00:21:43,350 know, in this are quotes from that, that douchebag that we 356 00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:51,030 already unmasked the, what's his name again? Well, listen, if if 357 00:21:51,030 --> 00:21:54,240 the story starts off like this, according to a host of 358 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,480 scientists, nuclear experts and researchers, we are facing 359 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,190 exactly such a scenario. If you read that, stop reading any 360 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:09,060 further host of scientists, dire words like this chilling. So 361 00:22:09,060 --> 00:22:13,890 here it is, according to US Army General, which is actually he is 362 00:22:13,890 --> 00:22:18,810 Major General Albert and stubbled bind the third retired. 363 00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:23,460 The situation is he know about it was part of a committee 364 00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:24,540 study. Oh, 365 00:22:24,540 --> 00:22:28,080 I'm glad you asked. He has a website. And because now if I'm 366 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,240 tracking these things back I gotta find out where it came 367 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,860 from. So I'll play you his his little clip, which is it's a 368 00:22:34,860 --> 00:22:37,680 video clip and they've edited it where he literally jump edits 369 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,280 like blink, blink blink. But let's now it starts off. 370 00:22:43,980 --> 00:22:48,690 Gentlemen, be very afraid. We have alternative news for you. 371 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:53,730 Mainstream media is covering this up. Very, very dire 372 00:22:53,730 --> 00:22:57,780 situation, Fukushima. Now you see big nuclear clouds on the 373 00:22:57,780 --> 00:23:03,780 screen. Listen to him. He's standing in his barn I think 374 00:23:03,780 --> 00:23:09,780 outside this this is the intro music. Major General Albert and 375 00:23:09,780 --> 00:23:12,990 stumbled on the third by the way, great name. If you add the 376 00:23:12,990 --> 00:23:16,380 third after anything, it's like oh, man, he's been in this for a 377 00:23:16,380 --> 00:23:21,000 long time. This is the guy. Major General Albert instable 378 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,220 buying the third Lipsky retired 379 00:23:23,220 --> 00:23:29,100 in 1984. I know he's also known for his interest in parasitology 380 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,630 Don't be so not 381 00:23:31,620 --> 00:23:36,210 US Army retired. I'm the president of the natural 382 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,470 solutions foundation. I don't don't go googling yet. I am 383 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:45,390 deeply worried about your health and the health of your family 384 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,760 because of the Fukushima disaster. My specialty is 385 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:57,300 intelligence. Intel I warned you of the dangers of the swine flu 386 00:23:57,300 --> 00:24:02,340 vaccine. And you stayed away and grow. Thank you for saving me 387 00:24:02,340 --> 00:24:02,820 Yeah, 388 00:24:02,820 --> 00:24:04,260 cheese. I'm glad he's the one who 389 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,700 warned you of the dangers of GMOs, the genetically modified 390 00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:13,740 organisms. And now today there is a powerful movement to get 391 00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:15,450 them out of our food supply. 392 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:21,030 Thank you General Major General and tired off of this planet. So 393 00:24:21,030 --> 00:24:23,940 while this is playing John go to low enemy. I 394 00:24:23,940 --> 00:24:26,670 want to throw another little tidbit in here. Just go 395 00:24:26,670 --> 00:24:32,550 to his website first. Gen burt.com Okay, hang on BRT, 396 00:24:32,550 --> 00:24:36,900 general Bert not calm. Now I'm warning you of the greatest 397 00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:43,050 danger to your health and the health of your family know God 398 00:24:43,050 --> 00:24:47,640 and human history and the four simple steps the guys can take 399 00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:53,820 for your family and your health. The situation is frankly, quite 400 00:24:53,820 --> 00:24:57,570 dire, dire. And that's an underestimate. underestimate 401 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:03,870 your email now so that I can send you my vital and lifesaving 402 00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:08,400 estimate of the situation, free of charge free of charge. Thank 403 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,700 you. You're all gonna die. 404 00:25:14,099 --> 00:25:17,729 Okay, so this is the guy that was was the staring at goats 405 00:25:17,729 --> 00:25:23,039 guy. Oh, really? Yeah. He said he says he was proponent of 406 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:26,189 psychic warfare when he was in there. He's the one this this 407 00:25:26,189 --> 00:25:30,449 guy involved in the unit US military project create a breed 408 00:25:30,449 --> 00:25:34,469 of Super Soldier and have the ability to become invisible and 409 00:25:34,469 --> 00:25:38,129 walk through walls. Stubble buying reportedly attempted to 410 00:25:38,129 --> 00:25:48,179 walk through walls himself without success. Oops. So what 411 00:25:48,179 --> 00:25:49,349 do we got here? Anyway, so 412 00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:53,370 the I'm going through the network today. And every single 413 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,870 feed that I find that is posted this story is I'm removing. 414 00:25:59,490 --> 00:26:03,660 Because this is this is the stuff. We've already discussed 415 00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:08,580 the actual reports about Fukushima, and this guy is still 416 00:26:08,580 --> 00:26:12,060 saying he or she was released as much radiation in the atmosphere 417 00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:15,090 and Pacific Ocean is Chernobyl, the potential for disaster at 418 00:26:15,090 --> 00:26:18,930 least 10 times worse. If there's another earthquake, the cooling 419 00:26:18,930 --> 00:26:24,570 structures will collapse. This is this is not true. And by the 420 00:26:24,570 --> 00:26:29,370 way, I lived in Europe when Chernobyl took place. I do not 421 00:26:29,370 --> 00:26:34,260 glow in the dark. Really? Well let me just turn off. 422 00:26:34,649 --> 00:26:35,879 Nothing to do with that. 423 00:26:37,860 --> 00:26:42,030 But I remember all that cloud coming over Oh, the clouds 424 00:26:42,030 --> 00:26:47,010 overhaul and we're all gonna die. did not die. And please, 425 00:26:47,010 --> 00:26:50,910 when you want to debunk something through email, don't 426 00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:54,900 email me a link to Wikipedia. Okay. That's not going to cut 427 00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:58,320 it. I'm very interested in opinions and experts and people 428 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,920 who work in the field. Sending me a link to Wikipedia isn't is 429 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,970 not proof. And if you don't, and when we say when we call the 430 00:27:05,970 --> 00:27:09,810 book of knowledge, that is men kind of with a wink just so you 431 00:27:09,810 --> 00:27:12,450 know, in case you hadn't caught on to the show yet. 432 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:20,100 Yeah, well we we see the Wikipedia as a as a bunch of 433 00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,530 facts that certain people put up many of them for political 434 00:27:22,530 --> 00:27:27,180 reasons. Yeah, it's not a especially with stuff that says 435 00:27:27,180 --> 00:27:30,660 contemporary it's not very good to know or good very accurate 436 00:27:30,660 --> 00:27:33,600 now. We did have another one that came up and I think it 437 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,810 showed up on the no agenda news network which is the Sanjay 438 00:27:36,810 --> 00:27:37,560 Gupta 439 00:27:38,850 --> 00:27:41,610 was oh, what was that about fructose 440 00:27:41,610 --> 00:27:42,600 and sugar. 441 00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:47,940 I've got a lot of sugar stuff for you today. I did you ever 442 00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:49,560 give a clip of him? Yeah, I 443 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,370 do have a clip I have. I this was a long segment that was on 444 00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:56,820 60 minutes. And I only have this part of it, which is the guy 445 00:27:56,850 --> 00:28:00,420 he's talking to some guy with some doctors and endocrinologist 446 00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:06,510 who's making the claim that sugar is toxic this whole thing 447 00:28:06,510 --> 00:28:12,720 was done to gonna kill you was was done to kind of soften the 448 00:28:12,750 --> 00:28:16,680 high fructose corn syrup argument because the guy claims 449 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:22,290 even though you know, this is like he makes the claim that 450 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,360 sucrose or sugar table sugar is exactly the same as fructose. 451 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:34,530 Because Sucrose is actually two molecules jam together fructose 452 00:28:34,530 --> 00:28:38,310 and glucose and it forms sucrose and it's uh, it you know has its 453 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:42,840 has its own characteristics. And it's not fructose, not free 454 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,350 fructose. But they make this claim to just to get us back on 455 00:28:46,350 --> 00:28:50,340 the bandwagon. Oh, hfsc Well, here's what happens they start 456 00:28:50,340 --> 00:28:52,800 off saying is toxic, toxic toxic, the guy's obviously 457 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,650 crazy. And the only thing you come up with you walk away from 458 00:28:55,650 --> 00:29:00,570 this whole debate is well, the guy's probably nuts and and, and 459 00:29:00,570 --> 00:29:04,230 also, high fructose corn syrup is the same as sugar, which is 460 00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:08,250 bull crap, and play this clip and you'll see what I'm talking 461 00:29:08,250 --> 00:29:11,580 about. Yeah, well, wait, wait. And also, to make it even more 462 00:29:11,580 --> 00:29:15,480 interesting. They drop a Lady Gaga beam into it to kind of 463 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,010 really boggle your mind. 464 00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:21,450 Bread, even peanut butter. And what about the manmade often 465 00:29:21,450 --> 00:29:25,770 vilified sweetener? High fructose corn syrup? Is it worse 466 00:29:25,770 --> 00:29:28,170 than just table sugar? No, because it's the exact same. 467 00:29:28,740 --> 00:29:33,960 They are basically equivalent. Problem is they're both bad. 468 00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:39,570 They're both equally toxic, toxic. Since the 1970s. sugar 469 00:29:39,570 --> 00:29:44,250 consumption has gone down nearly 40% But high fructose corn syrup 470 00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:47,550 has more than made up the difference. Dr. Lustig says they 471 00:29:47,550 --> 00:29:51,420 are both toxic, because they both contain fructose. That's 472 00:29:51,420 --> 00:29:55,740 what makes them sweet and irresistible. We love it. We go 473 00:29:55,770 --> 00:29:58,410 out of our way to find it. And I think one of the reasons 474 00:29:58,410 --> 00:30:02,250 evolutionarily is because there There's no foodstuff on the 475 00:30:02,250 --> 00:30:09,180 planet that has fructose that is poisonous to you. It is all 476 00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:13,320 good. So when you take something that's sweet, it's an 477 00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:17,580 evolutionary Darwinian signal that this is a safe food. We 478 00:30:17,580 --> 00:30:18,570 were born this way. 479 00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:28,320 Oh wow, you know, NBC was on this bandwagon, but they took a 480 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:36,660 different track. They say sugar is as bad as tobacco 481 00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:40,110 attempt to tackle this epidemic. This 482 00:30:40,110 --> 00:30:43,830 by the way, is Mayor Michael Bloomberg outlining the sale of 483 00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:48,390 16 ounce drinks in restaurants and theaters. Damak. We've 484 00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:51,540 talked about Nancy of obesity in this country. Is this the way to 485 00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:55,230 go about it? A very famous doctor, Dr. David Lustig at UC 486 00:30:55,230 --> 00:30:58,140 San Francisco. He's so famous. That's the 487 00:30:58,140 --> 00:31:00,630 same guy that was on 60 minutes. Yeah, exactly. He's 488 00:31:00,630 --> 00:31:01,380 very famous 489 00:31:01,410 --> 00:31:03,120 says that he was born that way. 490 00:31:03,780 --> 00:31:07,770 Sugar is toxic, and should be regulated like tobacco. Oh, it's 491 00:31:07,770 --> 00:31:10,710 rewiring the brain. It is not necessary for anything in the 492 00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:15,060 human diet. I think it's a very bold, big move. And I have no 493 00:31:15,060 --> 00:31:16,320 problem with Donnie, we 494 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,220 want local government telling us what we can and can't consume is 495 00:31:20,220 --> 00:31:21,030 that you comfortable. 496 00:31:21,420 --> 00:31:23,970 We complain that our politicians don't take stands and are 497 00:31:23,970 --> 00:31:25,920 courageous. God bless this guy. You know, this. 498 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,360 God bless Michael Bloomberg, for telling us to sit down and shut 499 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,870 up point. 500 00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:33,750 This is no different than tobacco, we sound obesity, we 501 00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:35,940 solve the healthcare problems. We got to do something. Yeah, of 502 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:39,000 course, every time you make a revolutionary move, there's 503 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,770 going to be some complaints, are they stepping over the 504 00:31:40,770 --> 00:31:43,770 boundaries? I applaud, I applaud them 505 00:31:43,770 --> 00:31:47,040 get rid of biscuits while you're at it. So there's, if anyone can 506 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,560 get a copy of this Saturday, New York Times, there's a 507 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,500 collector's page in there. This Saturday, New York Times has got 508 00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:56,940 a picture a full page ad with Bloomberg dressed up as an old 509 00:31:56,940 --> 00:32:01,200 Jewish woman making this claim that you know, they they're just 510 00:32:01,530 --> 00:32:04,590 the attack ad against Bloomberg, I guess, obviously, from the 511 00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:08,700 beverage industry. And it's quite collectible. Very funny. 512 00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:08,820 Let 513 00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:12,870 me let me play a couple of clips from an interview of Bloomberg. 514 00:32:13,470 --> 00:32:16,530 And just to give you an idea, now, you know, this started, of 515 00:32:16,530 --> 00:32:20,220 course, with smoking. And he's also going to make the tobacco 516 00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:24,270 correlation where smoking is effectively banned in in New 517 00:32:24,270 --> 00:32:28,020 York City. And I can tell you what's going to come next. By 518 00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:30,660 the way, that's an obvious one. But first, let's listen to him 519 00:32:30,660 --> 00:32:30,930 away 520 00:32:30,930 --> 00:32:32,910 before you when you make your prediction is going to have 521 00:32:32,910 --> 00:32:35,040 anything to do with the fact that none of these companies are 522 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,100 the people involved actually helped him get reelected and he 523 00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:41,910 had to go to his own bank account in order to get his 524 00:32:41,910 --> 00:32:45,090 mayoral job. And this is all payback said possible. 525 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,450 It couldn't be possible. I think, if anything, he's trying 526 00:32:48,450 --> 00:32:51,570 to help out the movie industry by making people buy more than 527 00:32:51,570 --> 00:32:56,220 one drink. But listen to the to the first clip here. This is the 528 00:32:56,220 --> 00:32:59,880 Shut up slave moment from Michael Bloomberg. Well, the way 529 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,820 it would work is simply those organizations that were those 530 00:33:02,820 --> 00:33:07,470 industries that we regulate, which are restaurants and movie 531 00:33:07,470 --> 00:33:11,970 theaters and carts, they would, they can still sell 32 ounces of 532 00:33:11,970 --> 00:33:14,100 the sugar drink to you. But they'd have to put it into 533 00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:17,580 containers. And the idea here is you tend to notice he's saying 534 00:33:17,580 --> 00:33:20,730 sugar drink. He's not saying high fructose corn syrup, he 535 00:33:20,730 --> 00:33:24,030 says sugar drink, and he expands on that later and said eat all 536 00:33:24,030 --> 00:33:26,700 the food in the container in front of you. If it's a bigger 537 00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:30,030 container, you'll eat more. If somebody put a smaller glass or 538 00:33:30,030 --> 00:33:34,410 plate or bowl in front of you, you would eat less. And at this 539 00:33:34,410 --> 00:33:38,730 point, there's an epidemic in this country of people being 540 00:33:38,730 --> 00:33:41,550 overweight. bordering on obesity, the number of 541 00:33:41,550 --> 00:33:45,060 percentage of the population is obese is skyrocketing. In New 542 00:33:45,060 --> 00:33:48,570 York City alone, the number of deaths from smoking has declined 543 00:33:48,570 --> 00:33:51,990 so much and the number of deaths from obesity has gone up so 544 00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:55,470 much. Those two are about to cross we're gonna and I don't 545 00:33:55,470 --> 00:33:58,800 find that crazy, by the way, because ex smokers tend to grab 546 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,750 on to something caffeine and sugary drinks is a great 547 00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:06,690 surrogate for smoking. So that doesn't surprise me I have more 548 00:34:06,690 --> 00:34:09,810 deaths from obesity than from smoking. We've got to do 549 00:34:09,810 --> 00:34:12,480 something about it. Everybody's wringing their hands saying 550 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:15,390 gotta do something well here is a concrete thing. You can still 551 00:34:15,390 --> 00:34:18,900 buy large bottles in stores you can still still because that's 552 00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:23,970 going to be next but still, but in a restaurant 16 ounces is the 553 00:34:23,970 --> 00:34:27,720 maximum that they would be able to serve in one cup if you want 554 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:30,240 to order two cups at the same time. That's fine. It's your 555 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:33,720 choice. Go ahead and order to it's more expensive. We're not 556 00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:37,110 taking away anybody's right to do things with simply forcing 557 00:34:37,110 --> 00:34:41,130 you to understand that you have to make the conscious decision 558 00:34:41,130 --> 00:34:44,100 to we're simply forcing you to make you 559 00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:47,910 understand Yeah, this is this guy should be in Berkeley Now 560 00:34:47,910 --> 00:34:49,230 listen, now listen to this 561 00:34:49,230 --> 00:34:52,110 one because he's I don't know if you heard it. He said You know, 562 00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:55,350 people will eat whatever's in front of them. While he has 563 00:34:55,350 --> 00:35:00,450 science to back that up John actual listen Have this 564 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,680 and in schools. Are these now banned from schools? I don't 565 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,840 know. I'm sorry. That's the wrong ones. This one in this 566 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,930 case, it's really the public. There was a great study done 567 00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:13,500 that people sitting in front of a bowl of soup. And as they were 568 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:16,650 eating the soup, unbeknownst to them, there was a pipe coming 569 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,920 into the bowl from underneath. And so the as they ate at the 570 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,760 vote kept getting refilled, and they just kept eating. And we've 571 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,070 all done that. That's just the way people work. They're just 572 00:35:26,070 --> 00:35:30,870 stupid, stupid people. It's just the way it works. Stupid idiots. 573 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,030 You just eat like a hog. This guy is an elitist prick, dude. 574 00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:37,740 Totally just 575 00:35:38,399 --> 00:35:41,579 Bloomberg. Yeah, you're kidding me. It's just a new observation. 576 00:35:42,029 --> 00:35:47,039 Okay, so here's the here's what I found it here's the meme he's 577 00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:50,699 introducing and as it goes on to schools listen to this this mean 578 00:35:50,699 --> 00:35:53,399 that he just keeps coming back to which we need to look out for 579 00:35:53,459 --> 00:35:54,899 which is interesting 580 00:35:54,930 --> 00:35:58,860 and in schools are these now banned from schools 581 00:36:00,150 --> 00:36:03,390 a lot of cities around the country have no longer sell full 582 00:36:03,390 --> 00:36:06,630 sugar drinks in schools you we sell on a diet drink so 583 00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:11,430 aspartame good for sugar. But what is this for sugar Listen, 584 00:36:11,550 --> 00:36:15,810 kids do tend to drink and endure disproportionate amount of full 585 00:36:15,810 --> 00:36:18,030 sugared drinks for the average kid I think it's something like 586 00:36:18,030 --> 00:36:24,510 three full sugar drinks at 12 ounces that you could not take 587 00:36:24,510 --> 00:36:27,690 that amount of sugar and put it in a tea and get it to dissolve 588 00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:31,080 much less drink it really miss amount of sugar and I will 589 00:36:31,410 --> 00:36:36,090 really he's done some experiments full sugar drinks 590 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:39,390 and so it's not it's high fructose corn syrup. Coca Cola 591 00:36:39,390 --> 00:36:42,030 is not sold in most places certainly not in New York City 592 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:46,620 with sugar so when you say full sugar drink I think that's the 593 00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:48,450 code we've got to be on the lookout for 594 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,880 what do you think it might be a code for though try to making 595 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,420 high in Iran this idea that sugar and for high fructose corn 596 00:36:57,420 --> 00:37:00,030 syrup is the same by the way the obesity the sugars has been 597 00:37:00,030 --> 00:37:03,510 around for a long time we've been downing it since the you 598 00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:08,010 know the forever and the obesity plague only if you look at the 599 00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:10,230 curve because there's all these curves showed his sugar 600 00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:13,320 consumption is going down like they said and high fructose corn 601 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,890 syrup consumption is going up and that curve of the of the 602 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,980 high fructose corn syrup going up is exactly the same as the 603 00:37:19,980 --> 00:37:23,730 curve for obesity. And by the way, he says that obesity kills 604 00:37:23,730 --> 00:37:27,030 more than tobacco How does it be set up people die from obesity 605 00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:30,870 they die from some complication they don't die from obesity per 606 00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:34,230 se and there's plenty of big fat people that are like 90 years 607 00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:34,710 old 608 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,920 yeah name to Well, I 609 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,760 mean there's plenty 610 00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:48,000 the guy is a shill and I think he's he's basically shilling for 611 00:37:48,030 --> 00:37:50,520 a malt of anyone who will pay him to say anything but this 612 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,750 full sugar drinks thing that is clearly equating high fructose 613 00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:58,050 corn syrup with sugar full sugar drink. It's not it's not sugar. 614 00:37:58,530 --> 00:38:01,050 How about this or a new strategy? We're in a meeting 615 00:38:01,050 --> 00:38:05,880 we're having our old or Relations meeting about So Adam 616 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,430 you know we don't did this this high fructose corn thing is 617 00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:11,310 driving everyone crazy. We got to get it. We're obviously not 618 00:38:11,310 --> 00:38:14,280 making the connection where everyone realizes that is what 619 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,770 we want them to realize, which is corn sugar and sugar. It's 620 00:38:16,770 --> 00:38:17,640 pretty much the same. Hold 621 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,280 on a second. John, if you've got an idea, should I call Mike? 622 00:38:21,450 --> 00:38:27,030 I got an idea. Like this. We're going to dissociate the two Ah, 623 00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:31,200 so you have full sugar and that's bad. High fructose corn 624 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,330 syrup is not sugar. They say that they want to stay well. 625 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,320 Sugar so that's not full sugar. There's no sugar is great, 626 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,580 John, you're a genius. So we don't want full sugar drinks. We 627 00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:45,330 don't want sugar. Sugar is like tobacco. It'll kill you. We want 628 00:38:45,330 --> 00:38:50,670 high fructose corn syrup. You sir, are going to be a 629 00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:51,600 billionaire. 630 00:38:53,550 --> 00:38:54,660 How's that for a possibility? 631 00:38:54,660 --> 00:38:58,350 I think it's I'm buying it. I like it. Here's a here's an 632 00:38:58,350 --> 00:39:00,510 interesting flub, too, which I thought was kind of cool. 633 00:39:01,110 --> 00:39:06,390 Just to make the point. This is 12 ounces of Pepsi. This is 20 634 00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:09,780 ounces. And this is what would no longer be possible. 635 00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:12,810 You can still buy it in the store. Absolutely. Nobody's 636 00:39:12,810 --> 00:39:17,940 telling you just when you order a drink in a restaurant, or in a 637 00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:21,600 movie theater, they would have to give you no bigger than a 16 638 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,750 ounce cup. If you want to have multiple ones. That's up to you. 639 00:39:24,780 --> 00:39:27,480 We're not taking away anybody's right to do anything. All we're 640 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,480 trying to do is to remind you that this is something that 641 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,960 could be should be is not should be is detrimental to your 642 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:40,440 health. It should be oops, should be should should. 643 00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:42,630 Shouldn't be detrimental to your health. 644 00:39:42,660 --> 00:39:43,440 I'm sorry, 645 00:39:43,470 --> 00:39:48,570 I didn't mean to say that. I like your theory. I really like 646 00:39:48,570 --> 00:39:56,130 that. And it fits in with what you had from a Gupta and from 647 00:39:56,130 --> 00:40:00,840 the NBC panel, led by Matt Lauer. There Just like tobacco 648 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,590 is gonna kill you. We don't need it sugar bad bad bad bad science 649 00:40:04,590 --> 00:40:07,950 will help you. And by the way, you're so stupid, you stupid 650 00:40:07,950 --> 00:40:11,250 slaves. That if we put a bowl of soup in front of you and we have 651 00:40:11,250 --> 00:40:14,220 a tube there and we keep feeding it, you'll eat. Eat until you 652 00:40:14,220 --> 00:40:15,690 die. You're so stupid minded 653 00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:17,100 of the Irish joke. 654 00:40:18,779 --> 00:40:20,339 What's the what's the iris joke 655 00:40:20,399 --> 00:40:26,939 Irishman finds a bottle rubs it a genie comes out your dreamy 656 00:40:26,969 --> 00:40:30,839 Genie says your wishes. You've just released me from the bottle 657 00:40:30,839 --> 00:40:34,139 you've got three wishes. And the Irishman says well that's great. 658 00:40:34,379 --> 00:40:37,799 And Jesus What wish number one would you like? And the Irishman 659 00:40:37,799 --> 00:40:40,619 said well you know it's it's hot. I've been working all day I 660 00:40:40,619 --> 00:40:43,649 could go for a Guinness and the genie says I'll go you one 661 00:40:43,649 --> 00:40:46,829 better have this Guinness and he puts a Guinness boom shows up. 662 00:40:47,219 --> 00:40:51,029 The Irishman drinks, it puts it down it fills itself back up 663 00:40:52,229 --> 00:40:55,409 Irishman it goes wow, he drinks it puts it down and fills itself 664 00:40:55,409 --> 00:40:58,619 back up. And the genie says What would you like for you other two 665 00:40:58,619 --> 00:41:01,139 wishes in the Irishman says I'll have two more of these 666 00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:08,070 no offense to the Irish who I think are actually pretty cool. 667 00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:09,810 And well there's 668 00:41:09,930 --> 00:41:16,410 there's a lot of news. Financial News that is coming out of 669 00:41:16,410 --> 00:41:19,140 Ireland and elsewhere. Especially the EU. Yeah, and it 670 00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:21,510 doesn't look good. And I think we should take a break and thank 671 00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:23,490 our two executive producers before we 672 00:41:23,970 --> 00:41:29,940 Yes, it's we've clearly June Gloom is upon us. And nobody 673 00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:30,270 listens 674 00:41:30,270 --> 00:41:31,830 to the show on Sunday, which can't 675 00:41:31,860 --> 00:41:35,850 handle the seesaw. You know, it's like we get great on 676 00:41:35,850 --> 00:41:39,990 Thursday and then it's like a gut punch on Sunday. If you just 677 00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:42,840 even it out a little yeah it's like you know like a donkey 678 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,160 punch almost donkey punch Do you know what a donkey that is? 679 00:41:47,250 --> 00:41:55,950 Sure. John just Google donkey punch my friend 680 00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:59,670 Donkey punch 681 00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:04,560 the chat room is gone like 682 00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:08,940 it's just sexual practice known as during donkey style sex 683 00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:14,370 especially anal reading practice involves did it a punching the 684 00:42:14,370 --> 00:42:18,420 part of the back of the head oh please 685 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:26,610 that's exactly how I feel I got done donkey punched Yeah, I 686 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,100 can't believe you and Mimi haven't tried that one out 687 00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:32,820 so anyway, let's thank our two executive producers before we 688 00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:37,680 get Louis started losing listeners beginning with our we 689 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,720 have two we have one executive producer one associate 690 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:45,750 executives yet Yan coleoptile pain pain, I think. What do you 691 00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:46,770 think just you guys 692 00:42:47,549 --> 00:42:51,569 use a Essen is S and where? 693 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:53,580 Deutschland that storage land. Essam Deutsch 694 00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:57,720 Yong Chol. Yeah, painter. Yong Chol, your painter. So what I 695 00:42:57,720 --> 00:42:58,410 would say yeah, 696 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,440 yeah, with a Dutch accent. Okay, he's drunk, so I have to read it 697 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,990 as if it's 507 698 00:43:04,410 --> 00:43:07,620 you have to do a drunk German accent now it's a little harder. 699 00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:14,370 No. Oh, Nathan completely drunk, which should be a prerequisite. 700 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:21,990 I welcome my new human resource Elissa Eliza. In Germany enjoy 701 00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:26,430 mini tradition. I'd love to do Germany, Germany, Germany and 702 00:43:26,430 --> 00:43:31,950 cermony we have a tradition to get completely drunk to help the 703 00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:38,550 baby pee. Yes, I succeeded. Just want to tell the chance to tell 704 00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:44,610 you you rock and keep me insane. Over just hope my daughter keeps 705 00:43:44,610 --> 00:43:48,210 the same direction. Maybe with his without the help of the 706 00:43:48,210 --> 00:43:53,040 alcohol. The donation reflects your birthday may 17 Li p s 707 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,340 please give my sweet daughter a clippity clop karma as you get 708 00:43:56,340 --> 00:44:08,430 behind this crap soon. The message is clear. Clear you've 709 00:44:08,430 --> 00:44:09,720 got karma. 710 00:44:12,030 --> 00:44:17,580 Nice clippity clop jingle with the coconut with the coconuts. 711 00:44:17,580 --> 00:44:21,360 Nice. Well, he deserves that for 517 donation. No one by the way, 712 00:44:21,630 --> 00:44:24,780 picked up on the lucky palindrome. 41414 It's 713 00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:30,120 weird. Yeah. You'd think our audience but there you go. There 714 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:37,170 you go. Van Janelle in Chicago, Illinois. 20 $50.07. That's it. 715 00:44:37,170 --> 00:44:43,080 No notice that pronounce that Janelle. So I thank him. It's 716 00:44:43,170 --> 00:44:45,840 actually a male. Not sure what the deal is. 717 00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:50,940 I like the vaginal moniker. I like that. I think that's good. 718 00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:52,830 Sounds like a product. Yeah. 719 00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:56,730 That's why I like it. Ladies, heavy those are 720 00:44:56,730 --> 00:44:59,970 our two those moments when users and we want to thank them and 721 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,230 Now I will talk to will thank the others later in the show for 722 00:45:04,290 --> 00:45:09,630 show 414 Which everyone seems to have missed the Palindrome there 723 00:45:09,630 --> 00:45:13,110 I want to remind you go to dvorak.org/and a challenge of 724 00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:19,620 org.com/and a no agenda show and no agenda nation.com and help us 725 00:45:19,620 --> 00:45:24,750 continue this. Hopefully next Sunday. We can have little more 726 00:45:24,780 --> 00:45:26,400 even donations 727 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,360 vaginal for when you're feeling not so fresh down there. 728 00:45:30,570 --> 00:45:37,170 for.org/and. A to PR initiatives I actually just wanted to give a 729 00:45:37,170 --> 00:45:42,000 shout out to Mrs. Get most slave you know, get more slave as He 730 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,890 and Mr. Oil have run our infrastructure and sort of get 731 00:45:46,890 --> 00:45:50,280 most slave as always there every show day no matter what even on 732 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,240 his daughter's birthday, like on Thursday to make sure that we 733 00:45:54,270 --> 00:45:57,360 get on the stream. And as she just she's recovering from 734 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,200 surgery, so a shout out to her and kiwi Chris sent me a 735 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,100 beautiful email and with some pictures night I'm not posting 736 00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:07,050 the picture so I don't know if anyone wants to know what Kiwi 737 00:46:07,050 --> 00:46:10,590 Chris looks like if he wants to know what everyone that everyone 738 00:46:10,590 --> 00:46:14,010 knows what he looks like. But he's a he's a cyclist. And he 739 00:46:14,010 --> 00:46:17,790 has made this custom cycling outfit now you know, these are 740 00:46:17,790 --> 00:46:22,200 the is what Lance Armstrong would wear. And it's actually 741 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,610 it's really cool looking. And you can order them online that's 742 00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:31,470 through a company called eclipse cycling.com And I've put the 743 00:46:31,470 --> 00:46:36,540 link in the show notes for one for.na show notes.com I don't 744 00:46:36,540 --> 00:46:39,570 think we get any Benny's from it but he says his great way to 745 00:46:39,570 --> 00:46:42,300 propagate the formula he just basically uploaded these designs 746 00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:45,480 and now you can you can buy the gifts you know the skin type 747 00:46:45,810 --> 00:46:48,720 kind of outfits and that's what 748 00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:49,290 I wear 749 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,100 yeah 750 00:46:51,810 --> 00:46:56,760 you got no agenda no agenda hyenas but so as to when you're 751 00:46:56,790 --> 00:47:00,660 hunched over cycling on your 10 Speed everyone's like looking at 752 00:47:00,660 --> 00:47:03,540 no agenda when they see your ass but it's kind of cool it's I 753 00:47:03,540 --> 00:47:06,390 think it's a good promotion all these guys are filled with the 754 00:47:06,750 --> 00:47:10,830 with stickers and promotion and stuff. This looks really really 755 00:47:10,830 --> 00:47:13,740 good. So if you're you know this is all part I guess of our no 756 00:47:13,740 --> 00:47:17,790 agenda racing team initiative. So we have motorcycles we have 757 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,580 we don't have to confirm yet but I think we have someone in the 758 00:47:20,580 --> 00:47:25,470 Mustang class which will have a car and now we have bicycles. So 759 00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:29,610 this is good we need a boat and we need one of those Red Bull 760 00:47:29,610 --> 00:47:35,700 planes. And then I think anyway just another way you can go out 761 00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:38,130 and do something extremely important you all can always try 762 00:47:38,130 --> 00:47:43,740 to propagate our formula. Our formula is this we go out hit 763 00:47:43,740 --> 00:47:44,550 people in the mouth 764 00:47:53,730 --> 00:48:00,150 come on Kenny's you know you want to say it and you know 765 00:48:00,150 --> 00:48:04,590 people can go to dark.org/banners and pick up a 766 00:48:04,620 --> 00:48:07,890 like a one of any number of banners and put it on your on 767 00:48:07,890 --> 00:48:13,020 your blog or put it on someone else's blog or Yeah, put it on a 768 00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:19,230 hat. Or you can by the way, by the way, repost our show. I wish 769 00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:20,370 people would do more of that. 770 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,700 Well, you know, Arsene nomics does a lot on on youtube I like 771 00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:27,360 what he does. He'll he'll clip something he likes from the show 772 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,110 and then he'll do a screencast you can look them up on YouTube 773 00:48:31,110 --> 00:48:36,510 arson omics good guy. And John, lest I forget happy LGBT Pride 774 00:48:36,510 --> 00:48:37,140 Month. 775 00:48:37,710 --> 00:48:45,090 I didn't know was LGA. What about LGBT Q i whatever it is. 776 00:48:45,660 --> 00:48:48,510 Therefore, I Barack Obama President United States by 777 00:48:48,510 --> 00:48:51,000 virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution, the 778 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,500 laws the United States do hereby proclaim June 2012 as Lesbian 779 00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:58,350 Gay Bisexual and Transgender Pride month 780 00:49:02,910 --> 00:49:07,950 they have a month instead of a week. So I wanted to talk about 781 00:49:07,980 --> 00:49:14,400 I was at the office the officer Meteos Yes. And the Bravo people 782 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,210 are doing a 783 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,320 you're finally on bright Zelos how almost 784 00:49:20,190 --> 00:49:25,260 so the Bravo people are they're doing a reality show with the 785 00:49:25,260 --> 00:49:29,430 Sarah Austin is one of the players what's the show? I don't 786 00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:34,470 know it's called Silicon Valley Titans are some some some stupid 787 00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:35,070 that's Bravo 788 00:49:35,070 --> 00:49:37,020 I thought there was like a CNN series 789 00:49:37,050 --> 00:49:39,750 Yeah, this is this is the bravo bravo one you can look it up but 790 00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:41,190 let me look fine. I'll do that you 791 00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:42,480 tell the story I'll look it up 792 00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:47,640 it's so apt anyway, so they're gonna they're shooting this and 793 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,550 they've she's in there doing some so I got to I got in one of 794 00:49:50,550 --> 00:49:52,200 the acts. I got one of the bits I 795 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,690 just sign off on it. Did you have did you have to learn the 796 00:49:54,690 --> 00:49:56,160 script for this reality show? No, 797 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,100 no, they don't. They will this these things are non scripted. I 798 00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:01,830 mean, that's the way they work. But what they do is they have 799 00:50:01,830 --> 00:50:05,700 you do stuff over and over. And then they film. It's what I 800 00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:09,630 thought was interesting is that film crew is huge. They're like, 801 00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:12,990 at any given time, there's three people with cameras rolling 802 00:50:12,990 --> 00:50:16,200 around shooting everything they can and then there's another two 803 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:16,800 or three. 804 00:50:17,279 --> 00:50:19,589 Now this is, this is Randi Zuckerberg. 805 00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:24,120 Yeah project versus the one. Zuckerberg daughter, sister 806 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,920 Sister. Yeah. needs the money. She has a bunch of stock, so 807 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,360 she's probably a billionaire. Anyway. So they but I was 808 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,720 interested in the in the process, and so they have lots 809 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:40,080 of cameras, and then they have this unbilled, this one guy 810 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,490 who's just the sound guy who hides microphones on people and 811 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,610 around you and you will never see these mics. A guy's really 812 00:50:47,610 --> 00:50:50,490 good at it. So the mics are all hidden on everyone. You got a 813 00:50:50,490 --> 00:50:53,010 mic? I'm sorry. 814 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:53,940 Did you get a mic? 815 00:50:54,420 --> 00:50:56,790 I was miked. I didn't get to take a mic 816 00:50:56,790 --> 00:51:01,110 hold. That don't mean that. You might Yeah. Yeah, it 817 00:51:01,110 --> 00:51:06,090 was my did you take it home? Duck out you soon as you're done 818 00:51:06,090 --> 00:51:08,250 with your bid, that guy runs right over and grabs the mic, 819 00:51:08,250 --> 00:51:10,200 because I think people try to sneak out of course, there's so 820 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,830 many of them. He's got this big. It's really interesting, because 821 00:51:13,830 --> 00:51:17,670 the guy's got a big bike, a backpack size thing in front of 822 00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:22,650 him. Yeah, a mixer with a huge mixer huge, with things sticking 823 00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:26,130 in and wires like about 20 antennas. And it's just as the 824 00:51:26,130 --> 00:51:28,920 guy I'm surprised he doesn't fall over because of this thing. 825 00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:35,130 And he's sorry, is adjusting stuff. The director has got the 826 00:51:35,130 --> 00:51:38,340 whole thing is a wireless operation. All the cameras are 827 00:51:38,340 --> 00:51:42,480 hooked to they're all filming at the same time. So for all it's 828 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,930 all posted, so it's all being recorded. But they're also 829 00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:50,220 wirelessly going into a monitor that the director has. He's been 830 00:51:50,220 --> 00:51:53,190 here. He's making a handheld looks like an iPad. He's making 831 00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:56,520 a rough cut right there as you're going. Right? Yeah. And 832 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,610 he's and he's and he's got a little microphone right about a 833 00:51:59,610 --> 00:52:02,730 quarter inch from his mouth that he whispers into live camera 834 00:52:02,730 --> 00:52:05,730 five over too soon and move it to move camera to move forward. 835 00:52:05,730 --> 00:52:07,710 Now get that shot to that guy over there. And so you can see 836 00:52:07,710 --> 00:52:09,750 but you can't really hear him you'd have to go right stand 837 00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:11,940 right next to him to hear his direction, but he's directing 838 00:52:11,940 --> 00:52:16,110 the traffic and then there's one another guy with a big boom mic 839 00:52:16,110 --> 00:52:18,090 with the you know, the overhead thing because not everyone's 840 00:52:18,090 --> 00:52:21,570 miked and somebody was jumping out of the blue and this guy's 841 00:52:21,570 --> 00:52:23,910 got to run over there with the boom mic and hang it on the 842 00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:27,270 gross and right it was actually kind of interesting to watch it 843 00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:28,350 was very 844 00:52:29,009 --> 00:52:31,499 slick now that you propagate the formula 845 00:52:32,339 --> 00:52:37,379 I had my no agenda dirty on said no agenda in the front. 846 00:52:37,410 --> 00:52:40,260 Don't you understand? Here's what no no, hold on a second. Do 847 00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:43,170 you ever watch these shows they blur that outman 848 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,740 know the guy came up there? They they guy came up and asked about 849 00:52:46,740 --> 00:52:50,670 it? And I said no I own this. This is minus public domain. You 850 00:52:50,670 --> 00:52:53,010 don't have to blur it out. It's not a it's not any 851 00:52:53,250 --> 00:53:00,060 real. See? I bet you 10 shekels I don't end up on the route 852 00:53:00,060 --> 00:53:02,850 pictures on the wall. They blur out everything. They're just a 853 00:53:02,850 --> 00:53:03,900 blur. I love the blurred 854 00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:07,620 out they blur it out. So anyway, but I did my best because I 855 00:53:07,650 --> 00:53:09,840 wasn't even gonna go into the office of somebody so they're 856 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,080 shooting I said, So I grabbed the no agenda shirt and ran in 857 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,170 there and then threw myself into one of the bits. You're such a 858 00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:20,040 hero. Because I am. I threw myself into one of the bits 859 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,560 because I was watching it. I said these guys. This none of 860 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:27,180 this is gonna get on the air. These guys suck. They suck we 861 00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:30,660 the people in our groups suck. Yeah. 862 00:53:31,740 --> 00:53:35,400 Let's let's get the trailer here from Bravo for this fantastic 863 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,520 show called Silicon Valley. Let's see if we get it without a 864 00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:42,030 sorry. We had to get a commercial first. Yeah, the 865 00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:45,060 internet is doomed. And it's not. There's not Vint Cerf it's 866 00:53:45,060 --> 00:53:49,620 the commercials. That's what's doing the internet. Adobe Flash. 867 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,380 Adobe Flash is killing me. Yeah. 868 00:53:53,580 --> 00:53:58,980 So it's called Silicon Valley. Who they have on here anybody 869 00:53:58,980 --> 00:53:59,790 interesting. 870 00:54:00,570 --> 00:54:02,970 I've never heard of any of them. 871 00:54:03,330 --> 00:54:07,080 No, the Randi Zuckerberg is the biggest name on it only because 872 00:54:07,140 --> 00:54:14,730 Randy suck just call it Randy suck. Okay, I'm a Randy's Bravo 873 00:54:14,730 --> 00:54:17,910 has the show's love. And this year we're giving you five more 874 00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:23,670 that you won't want to miss. Come on the fabulous. New Series 875 00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:27,570 York City is the only city I was living in these seven chic women 876 00:54:27,570 --> 00:54:32,220 are taking New York City artwork. This is the this is all 877 00:54:32,220 --> 00:54:36,240 their new shows. Yeah, you might just kill it. Yeah, I think 878 00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:39,810 we've said it. But it's apparently there's another crew 879 00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:43,560 in town at the cheese place at the Ferry Building and they took 880 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,400 up they bought a big giant, giant thing of cheese. You know, 881 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,160 it was giant wheels, and they use it as a gimmick to roll it 882 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,950 down the street, which apparently irked everybody 883 00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:56,070 because it's just a waste of good cheese. And I don't know 884 00:54:56,070 --> 00:54:56,700 what they're up to. They 885 00:54:56,700 --> 00:55:00,090 rolled cheese down the street. Yay, man. I got a great idea. A 886 00:55:00,090 --> 00:55:01,020 new show. 887 00:55:01,230 --> 00:55:04,350 Yeah, yeah. I think most of this stuff doesn't get on the air. 888 00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:12,570 But anyway said I didn't get paid, so I wasn't gonna go 889 00:55:12,570 --> 00:55:14,940 back. No, of course. Well, that's the beauty of these shows 890 00:55:14,940 --> 00:55:19,800 you don't get paid. Yeah, that's the beauty of it. Well, great, 891 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,180 John. So we're gonna see, like you walking in the background. 892 00:55:24,330 --> 00:55:29,340 The guy with a huge unit will have you potted down, and you'll 893 00:55:29,370 --> 00:55:33,210 be wearing a blurred shirt. And then and the VoiceOver will be. 894 00:55:34,020 --> 00:55:37,500 Here's the voiceover. What's it What's the girl's name? In the 895 00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:41,430 sheriff Austin tear Austin. For some reasons here, Austin's 896 00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:44,490 grandfather showed up walking around aimlessly. He has 897 00:55:44,490 --> 00:55:50,490 Alzheimer's pay attention to him. You want to make total fun 898 00:55:50,490 --> 00:55:51,960 of us with these shows? Do 899 00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:54,600 Yeah, well, I just got this shirt on. I'm going for it. 900 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,030 There Austin's grandfather. 901 00:55:59,010 --> 00:56:00,540 Now you're amusing yourself. 902 00:56:01,260 --> 00:56:06,930 I am. Sorry. I'm sorry. I can't help it. Hey, okay, now let's 903 00:56:06,930 --> 00:56:08,280 get to some serious here. 904 00:56:09,180 --> 00:56:11,400 I am like the collapse of Europe. 905 00:56:11,460 --> 00:56:15,090 Yeah, go ahead. Hit me with the collapse of Europe. Well, 906 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,520 there was a point well hold 907 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,550 on a second we if we're gonna do the actual collapse of Europe 908 00:56:20,580 --> 00:56:25,590 then let's do it properly. Euro 909 00:56:34,620 --> 00:56:37,860 proper. So there was so Paul Krugman is on the road. He was 910 00:56:37,860 --> 00:56:41,340 on PBS. And he wasn't in the Nobel if he flew himself to 911 00:56:41,340 --> 00:56:43,110 London to do news night as the 912 00:56:43,110 --> 00:56:46,470 Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman. 913 00:56:46,830 --> 00:56:51,060 Yeah, who we have we think is sketchy, but he definitely has 914 00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:53,700 nothing good to say about what's happening. And there's a couple 915 00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:56,340 of I got some clips. Some of them are a little long, but play 916 00:56:56,340 --> 00:56:58,530 there. They're all bad news. 917 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,230 He's promoting his book, of course, which is, what's the 918 00:57:01,230 --> 00:57:01,830 name of it. But 919 00:57:01,830 --> 00:57:03,270 seriously, they never mentioned the book. 920 00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:07,890 He's dumb as what he is that he's pretty he's on a book tour. 921 00:57:08,430 --> 00:57:10,710 That's why he's over there. He's promoting his book. 922 00:57:10,740 --> 00:57:14,310 He didn't he got he got a he got screwed. We have played Krugman 923 00:57:14,310 --> 00:57:16,710 on Greece. And we'll get we're just it's just the beginning of 924 00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:17,910 the gloom and doom Oh, I'm 925 00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:19,770 sorry, I had the wrong one queued up Krugman on Greece, 926 00:57:19,770 --> 00:57:20,190 here we go. 927 00:57:20,220 --> 00:57:22,770 They want to live through, it's going to be awful. If Greece 928 00:57:22,770 --> 00:57:25,560 exits, it's going to be awful, at least in the short run. The 929 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,740 trouble is that the situation for Greece is hopeless. And I 930 00:57:28,740 --> 00:57:32,130 need that in a quite literal sense. Onto the under the euro, 931 00:57:32,130 --> 00:57:36,510 there is nothing on the horizon to suggest any recovery ever. 932 00:57:36,810 --> 00:57:40,380 We're looking at extremely high unemployment extremely being 933 00:57:40,380 --> 00:57:43,410 shut out of the capital markets as far as the eye can see. And 934 00:57:43,410 --> 00:57:48,450 while an exit would be terrible, there would be you can see how a 935 00:57:48,450 --> 00:57:51,630 recovery could happen afterwards. And I understand 936 00:57:51,630 --> 00:57:54,450 that nobody wants to bite that bullet. Nobody wants to take 937 00:57:54,450 --> 00:57:57,210 that decision. Which is why I think it's actually the decision 938 00:57:57,210 --> 00:57:59,190 will be taken out of the hands of the politicians. It will 939 00:57:59,190 --> 00:58:01,740 simply happen. Yeah, in this depression now 940 00:58:01,740 --> 00:58:02,430 is his book. 941 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,830 Yeah, well, this is what his just pitches so he so here he is 942 00:58:07,830 --> 00:58:08,280 about what 943 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,500 is that I didn't understand the pitch. What is he actually 944 00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:11,010 saying? 945 00:58:11,879 --> 00:58:14,819 He's saying that there's, he's saying, well, he but he's 946 00:58:14,819 --> 00:58:18,239 actually saying what Farraj is saying, which is they should 947 00:58:18,239 --> 00:58:22,799 just kill this thing. Kill this thing while they can. It's dead 948 00:58:22,829 --> 00:58:27,479 already. Okay, he basically wants to kill the whole EU. But 949 00:58:27,479 --> 00:58:31,019 he doesn't come out and exactly say that. But if you play the 950 00:58:32,369 --> 00:58:36,089 play Krugman on news night, and that you'll get a better feeling 951 00:58:36,089 --> 00:58:36,809 for when 952 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:42,060 I when I think about Spain is that for 10 years, they were 953 00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:45,600 seen as the golden boy of Europe, wonderful place. Now 954 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,630 it's safe because it's part of the Euro zone, money flooded in 955 00:58:48,930 --> 00:58:53,040 a lot of German Landis bonds and lending to Spanish cars, which 956 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,280 made loans to fuel the huge housing bubble, a lot of 957 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,190 inflation, they get uncompetitive, then the bubble 958 00:58:59,190 --> 00:59:03,000 bursts. And now how do they get back to being competitive? 959 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:08,010 Again, the current strategy is that they should cut their wages 960 00:59:08,130 --> 00:59:11,550 and somehow do enough austerity to pay that debt. And it's 961 00:59:11,550 --> 00:59:14,760 impossible. The demands being placed on Spain are impossible. 962 00:59:15,210 --> 00:59:18,600 If Greece exits, then everybody says it's impossible money 963 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,870 starts flooding out of Spain, and then Europe has a choice. So 964 00:59:21,870 --> 00:59:24,870 what's the choices? Well, the choice I think, actually can and 965 00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:27,390 I seem to agree, first of all, the credit has been made 966 00:59:27,390 --> 00:59:29,910 available, that's be completely open ended lending so that as 967 00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:32,490 people pull their euros out of the Spanish banks, the banks 968 00:59:32,490 --> 00:59:35,220 don't collapse. So there has to be a basically unlimited supply 969 00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:39,120 of euros from Frankfurt, and they've handled it well, yes, 970 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,390 but it's going to be debt to the banks to the to the European 971 00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:45,060 Central Bank, but that's temporary, we hope, because if, 972 00:59:45,300 --> 00:59:48,450 if the panic stops and the money comes back, but you also have to 973 00:59:48,450 --> 00:59:51,690 have some inflation in Europe so that instead of Greek instead of 974 00:59:51,690 --> 00:59:55,890 Spain having to cut its wages, at least not It's not solely 975 00:59:55,890 --> 00:59:57,930 through cuts and Spanish wages. Instead, we're going to have 976 00:59:58,110 --> 01:00:01,140 rising German wages, which is a much easier way for Spain to 977 01:00:01,140 --> 01:00:04,380 become competitive. But all of this means a tremendous change 978 01:00:04,380 --> 01:00:07,260 and the German vision of what their policy is going to be look 979 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,810 is gonna look like it's going to be, instead of punishing the 980 01:00:09,810 --> 01:00:12,090 debtors and having price stability, they have to have 981 01:00:12,090 --> 01:00:15,600 something that is much more liberal in a way they have to 982 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:16,290 have a party 983 01:00:16,410 --> 01:00:19,560 camera. We've, we've been saying this stuff for five years, where 984 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,420 can I pick up my Nobel Peace Prize? 985 01:00:22,350 --> 01:00:28,170 I know we have. So yeah, but the Juba does funny that I was 986 01:00:28,170 --> 01:00:30,780 watching this stuff. And I'm just I'm just kind of shaking my 987 01:00:30,780 --> 01:00:34,680 head because I know that, you know, Merkel is not going to do 988 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:40,890 cheap Germans, you know, where they started, tightwads are not 989 01:00:40,890 --> 01:00:43,320 gonna have any, you know, I mean, just doesn't you do not, 990 01:00:43,350 --> 01:00:45,930 they're not going to do this. They have the opportunity to 991 01:00:45,930 --> 01:00:48,390 take over the whole place, and they just won't do we say this 992 01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:51,300 week after week. But now it's getting to the point. According 993 01:00:51,300 --> 01:00:52,980 to Ed, for you play all these games, you're not going to do 994 01:00:52,980 --> 01:00:56,790 that. But Krugman actually says at one point, that we got a 995 01:00:56,790 --> 01:00:59,910 matter of weeks to take care of this problem, because what's 996 01:00:59,910 --> 01:01:04,230 going to happen is that he says there's three $3 trillion in 997 01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:08,610 foreign money in the Spanish and Italian banks that don't just 998 01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:11,280 that money's just gonna get pulled out immediately, 999 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:17,160 especially once Greek defaults the Greek Steve Yeah, yeah, so 1000 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,800 it's gonna go into just a game because the Germans religious is 1001 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,830 gonna don't pull back and just say, Well, hell with it, maybe 1002 01:01:22,830 --> 01:01:25,830 we can buy cheaper down the road here as these companies as these 1003 01:01:25,830 --> 01:01:27,180 countries just collapse? 1004 01:01:28,620 --> 01:01:32,310 Well, I just find it all incredibly entertaining to 1005 01:01:32,310 --> 01:01:34,830 watch. Well, I really do. 1006 01:01:35,490 --> 01:01:37,020 It's, it is very entertaining. 1007 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,960 And and, and what did they expect? There was actually 1008 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:44,670 someone sent me an article, the member pin 14. Yeah, Professor 1009 01:01:44,670 --> 01:01:47,190 PIM who would have become the Prime Minister of the 1010 01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:49,650 Netherlands had he not been assassinated two weeks before 1011 01:01:49,650 --> 01:01:53,220 the election, his party won posthumously. Of course, that 1012 01:01:53,220 --> 01:01:57,630 was a disaster. But his party won nonetheless. And the country 1013 01:01:57,630 --> 01:02:02,130 was really behind this guy. And it was an article he published 1014 01:02:02,130 --> 01:02:07,650 in 1996. In Elsevier magazine, he was a columnist for Elsevier. 1015 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:13,110 And he literally, and it's, it's a Dutch article, someone sent me 1016 01:02:13,110 --> 01:02:17,610 a scan of it. He literally said, you know, here's what's gonna 1017 01:02:17,610 --> 01:02:21,390 happen. We're gonna get all this money, and you know, the bubbles 1018 01:02:21,390 --> 01:02:25,830 Gonna, gonna burst and then there'll be no way to, you know, 1019 01:02:25,830 --> 01:02:28,920 to get out of it, because no will be able to inflate their 1020 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,740 currency. It's gonna be disaster, the technocrats will 1021 01:02:31,740 --> 01:02:36,570 take over and the whole thing's gonna come crashing down. And 1022 01:02:36,930 --> 01:02:39,990 coops, in hindsight, he was pretty right. You know, he's 1023 01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:43,200 only he's known as the Dutch LePen and all this stuff, but he 1024 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:48,540 called it exactly. Which makes me want to be a little cautious 1025 01:02:48,540 --> 01:02:52,890 about what we call exactly. You got a couple of bullets to his 1026 01:02:52,890 --> 01:02:53,400 head. 1027 01:02:54,750 --> 01:02:59,280 Yeah, well, he had a different profile, though. We do. We talk 1028 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,770 about flying saucers. More of 1029 01:03:01,770 --> 01:03:05,940 that? Let me put that on the list. To have more fun more 1030 01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:08,130 flying saucers? Yes, indeed. 1031 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:13,350 Do you want to play one more? Clip Krugman to the euro has had 1032 01:03:13,350 --> 01:03:16,500 it, I think summarizes what we've been saying. But I think 1033 01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:22,260 now that is, we have our guy, or New York Times guy confirming it 1034 01:03:22,290 --> 01:03:27,510 along with a Harvard economist who's also on this show. Ng, 1035 01:03:27,660 --> 01:03:31,710 it's also about not wanting to have an open wallet and open bar 1036 01:03:31,710 --> 01:03:34,920 for the rest of Europe and perpetuity, they'd like to have 1037 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,860 some rules. I'd like to have some mortar. I'm not saying what 1038 01:03:37,860 --> 01:03:40,980 they're proposing is is necessarily nearly the end of 1039 01:03:40,980 --> 01:03:46,770 things. I really think that the only way this is going to end is 1040 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,820 either Europe starts to look like a real country. And I mean, 1041 01:03:50,820 --> 01:03:54,360 France and Germany are part of the same country with a central 1042 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,020 government with a lot of taxing power, or it splits up. And 1043 01:03:58,020 --> 01:04:02,130 unless they start moving that way, enthusiastically soon. 1044 01:04:02,370 --> 01:04:05,730 I don't think anything's gonna stabilize the situation. 1045 01:04:05,970 --> 01:04:07,950 Well, I hope Ken's wrong about that, because if that's the 1046 01:04:07,950 --> 01:04:10,830 case, then then it's over. It's not because this could happen, 1047 01:04:10,830 --> 01:04:13,410 but only very slowly. I mean, I've actually done some numbers. 1048 01:04:13,620 --> 01:04:17,070 I've actually done Ireland, Nevada, which not not the 1049 01:04:17,070 --> 01:04:19,680 landscape, but everything else looks remarkably similar. And 1050 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,280 because of the way the US fiscal system works, Nevada is 1051 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,420 receiving what amounts to defacto aid on the scale of five 1052 01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:32,640 or 6% of GDP from Washington. Try to imagine that Europe that 1053 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,760 Germany would be willing to countenance a system where five 1054 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:40,560 to 6% of GDP not in not in loans but an actual aid is given to 1055 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,050 Southern European countries at this point. It's just not 1056 01:04:43,050 --> 01:04:46,410 conceivable so that's going to be that's generations work and 1057 01:04:46,410 --> 01:04:48,360 we don't have a generation we may not even have more than a 1058 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,750 few months here go by that analysis the Euros had it Well, 1059 01:04:51,750 --> 01:04:51,990 I 1060 01:04:54,300 --> 01:04:57,600 I like Paxman, by that analysis, the Euros had it done is 1061 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,690 everyone's just saying Mr. Krugman the Nobel Was it in 1062 01:05:00,990 --> 01:05:06,540 euros had it the Euro has had it Oh, that's very good and while 1063 01:05:06,540 --> 01:05:09,990 that's nothing nothing news to us, but it will be very 1064 01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:13,620 interesting to see and you know in the debate continues there I 1065 01:05:13,620 --> 01:05:16,290 follow get my nation lowlands because I speak of the language 1066 01:05:16,980 --> 01:05:22,980 and in general the slaves are just like whatever. Yeah, got a 1067 01:05:22,980 --> 01:05:28,320 new new reality show so all is good. Everything's everything's 1068 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:28,710 new their 1069 01:05:28,710 --> 01:05:32,850 best grew at some point but but they're showing a lot of clips 1070 01:05:32,850 --> 01:05:37,890 from on some of these. outside the US news shows where they're 1071 01:05:37,890 --> 01:05:41,220 just people rioting all over the place. There's huge effect. We 1072 01:05:41,220 --> 01:05:44,070 have the even over in Chicago where the where he had large 1073 01:05:44,070 --> 01:05:46,470 groups of protesters, the Iraqi veterans. 1074 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,410 You didn't see any of that. We 1075 01:05:49,410 --> 01:05:54,630 saw it on Democracy Now, which nobody watches. But it's really 1076 01:05:54,810 --> 01:05:57,750 doing they were throwing the into public 1077 01:05:57,900 --> 01:06:01,350 FFA, the Vietnam vets were throwing their metals on the 1078 01:06:01,350 --> 01:06:05,370 ground. Yeah, I have a clip of that. That was hardcore man. 1079 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,450 And it went on for a long time, but it is mostly Iraq and 1080 01:06:09,450 --> 01:06:13,560 Afghanistan, veterans. And there's two things that came up 1081 01:06:13,590 --> 01:06:17,520 one of them is the is the crazy Global War on Terrorism metal, 1082 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,590 which I didn't even know existed. But apparently 1083 01:06:19,620 --> 01:06:22,050 everybody gets one as soon as you join up, you get a metal 1084 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,370 like a challenge coin, which is terrible. Yeah, but play play 1085 01:06:26,370 --> 01:06:30,660 this one clip. This is there were about 40 people that came 1086 01:06:30,660 --> 01:06:33,540 up to the microphone and said, I This sucks. I'm throwing my 1087 01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:36,360 metals away and they and then they threw their metals down the 1088 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,340 street. I don't know what happened to them. But whatever 1089 01:06:38,340 --> 01:06:42,930 the case, I have a couple here on the deserter clip. Because 1090 01:06:42,930 --> 01:06:45,810 one of these women come up she says she says this deserter. And 1091 01:06:45,810 --> 01:06:50,250 then she says it's 40,000 of us and why I'm wondering, I thought 1092 01:06:50,250 --> 01:06:52,470 they would arrest you if you were a deserter and you're able 1093 01:06:54,210 --> 01:06:58,230 to return my metals, nailed the USA government and Israel need 1094 01:06:58,230 --> 01:07:01,380 to be held accountable for the war crimes genocide, torture and 1095 01:07:01,380 --> 01:07:04,260 drone attacks. On returning my metals. 1096 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:14,100 Stephen lung, I'm a two time Iraq combat veteran, this metal 1097 01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:16,560 and dedicating to the children of Iraq that no longer have 1098 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:17,490 fathers mothers. 1099 01:07:23,130 --> 01:07:25,680 nuclear, biological chemical specialists for a war that 1100 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:30,030 didn't have any weapons of mass destruction. Like gave me 1101 01:07:30,030 --> 01:07:34,470 goosebumps right there. So I deserted I'm one of 40,000 1102 01:07:34,470 --> 01:07:37,950 people that left the United States Armed Forces, because 1103 01:07:37,950 --> 01:07:39,210 this is a lie. 1104 01:07:44,220 --> 01:07:49,410 My name is Steve from Campbellsport, Wisconsin. I was 1105 01:07:49,410 --> 01:07:52,380 a Ford observer in the United States Army for just under five 1106 01:07:52,380 --> 01:07:52,830 years. 1107 01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:55,860 That's, that's hardcore, man. 1108 01:07:55,890 --> 01:07:58,920 This goes on. Yeah. And of course it does. Of course, you 1109 01:07:58,920 --> 01:07:59,400 know, speaking 1110 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:04,020 of metals. This was really really weird. What happened? 1111 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,950 This was on the West Wing, West Wing Week. That's the President 1112 01:08:07,950 --> 01:08:10,710 Obama's reality show The guy there how you should see his 1113 01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:15,750 audio unit. It's huge. His unit, just a big as unit. And so this 1114 01:08:15,780 --> 01:08:19,680 this is to this happens on the I think the same day. First, he's 1115 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:26,760 at the Vietnam War Memorial. And it's like he's campaigning. And 1116 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,420 he's like, Welcome home. Welcome home. Welcome home. Thank you, 1117 01:08:30,450 --> 01:08:35,010 like, you know, for what, and then it goes straight into his 1118 01:08:35,610 --> 01:08:40,680 freedom medal ceremony, and one of the recipients was very 1119 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:46,110 confusing to me. Welcome home. Welcome home. Welcome home. 1120 01:08:46,350 --> 01:08:50,430 Welcome home. Welcome home. Thank you. Thank you. I'll be 1121 01:08:50,430 --> 01:08:52,140 here all week. On Tuesday, 1122 01:08:52,410 --> 01:08:54,990 the President awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to 1123 01:08:54,990 --> 01:08:57,810 13th individuals who are deserving of our nation's 1124 01:08:57,810 --> 01:09:00,990 highest civilian honor. Okay, freedom that wonderful about 1125 01:09:00,990 --> 01:09:03,330 these events for me is, 1126 01:09:03,540 --> 01:09:08,280 so many of these people are my heroes individually. I remember 1127 01:09:08,310 --> 01:09:14,100 reading Song of Solomon, when I was a kid, and not just trying 1128 01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:18,810 to figure out how to write but also how to be and how to think, 1129 01:09:19,170 --> 01:09:23,340 in college, listening to Bob Dylan, my world opening up 1130 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:28,140 everybody on this stage. I mean, how can you literally in the 1131 01:09:28,140 --> 01:09:33,030 same week of not the same day, be there say you're all heroes 1132 01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:36,600 of the Vietnam War? And then give Bob Dylan a metal? Did you 1133 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:42,390 listen to the lyrics? I was anti. He was anti Vietnam. 1134 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:46,079 Yeah, he was a total anti war singer. And it probably still 1135 01:09:46,079 --> 01:09:49,739 is, and I would practice he still, but what I got the thing 1136 01:09:49,739 --> 01:09:53,189 that I got out of this, this metal ceremony is that Bob Dylan 1137 01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:56,279 and some poet I believe, got all the attention. But then if you 1138 01:09:56,279 --> 01:09:58,829 look at the other people that actually got this thing, 1139 01:09:59,099 --> 01:10:00,509 including Madeleine 1140 01:10:00,540 --> 01:10:03,780 Albright, the shill of all shills 1141 01:10:05,790 --> 01:10:07,980 metal for what for killing people 1142 01:10:07,980 --> 01:10:11,220 for consulting on how to kill people. That's what she does. 1143 01:10:11,220 --> 01:10:14,370 She says she doesn't hold consultancy, she she consults 1144 01:10:14,370 --> 01:10:14,940 with the 1145 01:10:15,180 --> 01:10:20,190 Lucifer and then Shimon Peres, President of Israel, what is he 1146 01:10:20,190 --> 01:10:23,010 getting this metal for? This is for Americans, isn't it? 1147 01:10:23,580 --> 01:10:26,010 It's summer months, John, people getting you know, they've got 1148 01:10:26,010 --> 01:10:30,750 nothing to do, like, wow, what are we going to do? I know, do 1149 01:10:30,750 --> 01:10:33,120 some metals, as always cool. They 1150 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,970 had a couple of posthumous metals, the guys are dead, so 1151 01:10:35,970 --> 01:10:42,870 they gave him a medal. William fauj is his folk, former 1152 01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:45,120 director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 1153 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:49,500 who helped lead the the effort to eradicate smallpox. Okay, 1154 01:10:49,500 --> 01:10:54,450 well, John Doerr, who handles civil rights cases as Assistant 1155 01:10:54,450 --> 01:10:57,840 Attorney General in the 60s. What is he getting a medal for? 1156 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,200 He's just doing his job. John Paul Stevens, former Supreme 1157 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,120 Court justice, what's he getting the medal for? It's 1158 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,120 just to placate you. I guess. It's like if you get a medal 1159 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:10,470 that you can't be a douchebag anymore. That's where they 1160 01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:16,290 should be given us a medal. congrat Congressional medal. 1161 01:11:18,330 --> 01:11:24,210 Hey, John, why don't we take a little bit now back to real? I 1162 01:11:24,210 --> 01:11:27,930 have inside news from Hollywood. I thought I'd share with you. I 1163 01:11:27,930 --> 01:11:28,170 still 1164 01:11:28,530 --> 01:11:30,960 have the Hollywood whackers theme that we used to have. 1165 01:11:30,990 --> 01:11:31,530 Well, we haven't 1166 01:11:31,530 --> 01:11:35,850 had a whack. So you've been probably reading about this John 1167 01:11:35,850 --> 01:11:42,060 Travolta stuff? Not really know about it. You know about it? 1168 01:11:42,060 --> 01:11:42,540 That's what I mean. I 1169 01:11:42,540 --> 01:11:44,160 haven't been aggressively reading it. No, 1170 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:48,780 of course not. So for those of you who haven't heard this on 1171 01:11:48,780 --> 01:11:52,830 the actual news stations, there's now three or four 1172 01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:56,280 different people have come out and said the men say that John 1173 01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:01,980 Travolta has sexually assaulted them. And I was speaking to I 1174 01:12:01,980 --> 01:12:05,040 have a few Hollywood connections left spoke with him the other 1175 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,040 day, as I spoke with John Travolta, and now with my 1176 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:12,420 Hollywood connection, okay, he's a talent manager. And several of 1177 01:12:12,420 --> 01:12:16,230 his clients are in the Church of Scientology. And you'll recall 1178 01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:22,470 that I met the former top PR people from the Church of 1179 01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:27,330 Scientology who are for all intents and purposes, hiding out 1180 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:35,160 in in Austin. And so what is going on? He says, Well, it's 1181 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:40,620 well known that John Travolta likes dark skinned men, you 1182 01:12:40,620 --> 01:12:43,830 know, brown skin he liked and then I don't think this is a big 1183 01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:50,550 secret. But it's you know, it's what it is. And it's always the 1184 01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:51,300 Celebrate open 1185 01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:55,620 would be ideal. Yeah, Cubans when he says, let's go get a 1186 01:12:55,620 --> 01:12:57,060 Cuban he's not talking about. 1187 01:12:58,740 --> 01:13:01,500 But he does talk. But that doesn't mean smoking. But yeah. 1188 01:13:01,830 --> 01:13:04,920 So via or if you just have a really good tan, either way. 1189 01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:08,280 It's dark skinned men that John Travolta likes, it's fine, 1190 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,980 whatever, whatever he does in his bedroom, his business or in 1191 01:13:10,980 --> 01:13:15,930 his cockpit. And, but he apparently wants to leave the 1192 01:13:15,930 --> 01:13:20,130 Church of Scientology. And this and this is how Hollywood works. 1193 01:13:20,580 --> 01:13:23,670 And, and what is happening now is they have the goods odd. And 1194 01:13:23,670 --> 01:13:26,280 they have because, you know, your initiation into Hollywood 1195 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:30,630 always happens at some crazy party. We have the lesbian order 1196 01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:33,660 of the Illuminati, where, you know, Miley Cyrus, and Britney 1197 01:13:33,660 --> 01:13:35,880 Spears and all these Chickies. And they all have to do some 1198 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,120 crazy ass stuff. And they take pictures and they record it. And 1199 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,390 so there's evidence it so they can blackmail you and ruin 1200 01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:45,420 quote, unquote, ruin your career. So he apparently wants 1201 01:13:45,420 --> 01:13:48,000 to leave the Church of Scientology. And they're saying, 1202 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,840 Oh, really, you can't leave. And so this is this is just the 1203 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,410 opening salvos of the real stuff that they have. And they're 1204 01:13:55,410 --> 01:14:00,090 doing this to persuade him not to leave. That's the inside 1205 01:14:00,090 --> 01:14:00,990 track that I have 1206 01:14:01,530 --> 01:14:05,610 now. Okay, well, it's kind of interesting. I 1207 01:14:05,910 --> 01:14:09,300 just thought I'd lay that out on you. It's entertaining. Yeah. 1208 01:14:09,300 --> 01:14:14,550 Meanwhile, I was outraged. And we have to analyze this. On 1209 01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:18,210 Thursday, the New York Times the paper of record, the Ministry of 1210 01:14:18,210 --> 01:14:23,250 Truth, told us how the President is deeply involved with the 1211 01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:27,480 drone program. He's got his baseball cards there. He's you 1212 01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:30,450 know, selecting who can die who can't die. He's got his kill 1213 01:14:30,450 --> 01:14:37,050 list. Now, two days later, we find out that he is waging cyber 1214 01:14:37,050 --> 01:14:42,540 warfare with this program, uniquely called Olympic Games, 1215 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,780 which I'm sure there's a code there more reason not to buy a 1216 01:14:45,780 --> 01:14:48,840 ticket, because you know, if you want retaliation for the Olympic 1217 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:54,300 Games, cyber warfare, which was Stuxnet, The New York Times not 1218 01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:57,840 being refuted, so let's just say it's true. The New York Times is 1219 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,200 saying that the President continued On a program that was 1220 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:08,040 started by George W. Bush, and expanded the use of a cyber worm 1221 01:15:08,100 --> 01:15:14,850 of a virus to wreck the creation of nuclear energy in the country 1222 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:20,790 of Iran. And I'm outraged that this act of war is being propped 1223 01:15:20,790 --> 01:15:27,030 is being carried out by the Chief Executive without any 1224 01:15:27,180 --> 01:15:31,020 executive order, without Congress, its own executive 1225 01:15:31,020 --> 01:15:35,610 order, but without Congress saying go ahead and wage warfare 1226 01:15:35,700 --> 01:15:40,320 and if you look at the NDAA if someone does that against us, we 1227 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:45,960 have now agreed by law that if a country wages cyber war warfare 1228 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,200 on us we can go and kill them and drop bombs and drone them 1229 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,770 whatever we feel is necessary. So it's a real act of war. And 1230 01:15:52,770 --> 01:15:56,970 there's no outrage there's not but I did figure out why it's 1231 01:15:56,970 --> 01:15:57,210 pretty 1232 01:15:57,210 --> 01:16:00,540 funny to watch this lack of you know, he's gotten he's he's 1233 01:16:00,540 --> 01:16:03,960 calling the shots on assassinations, which is 1234 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,150 ludicrous. If you think about what else is he got? He's 1235 01:16:06,150 --> 01:16:08,670 watching basketball. He's definitely watching the NBA 1236 01:16:08,670 --> 01:16:11,640 Finals. And in between, he's going through these cars while 1237 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,400 watching you know, somebody dunk the ball. She's kind of cute. 1238 01:16:14,430 --> 01:16:17,070 Let's not drone her and he's saying, you know, yes, she's a 1239 01:16:17,070 --> 01:16:19,380 little young. They leave her alone, but we'll keep her in the 1240 01:16:19,380 --> 01:16:24,600 deck. And then he throws a car rainy days go after this guy for 1241 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,970 a rainy day and he promises fist in the air because he saw 1242 01:16:26,970 --> 01:16:33,240 another slam dunk by you know, somebody. Just a weird while I 1243 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,820 figured it out. I figured out what they're trying to do. Now. 1244 01:16:35,820 --> 01:16:39,270 I understand and I heard the two NBC NBC shills 1245 01:16:40,650 --> 01:16:41,520 and be shills, 1246 01:16:41,670 --> 01:16:47,970 the NBA. NBA shills, Chuck Gregory, and the other chip, 1247 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,800 chip, chip Gregory and the other Chuck, what's his face? From 1248 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,890 MSNBC, I guess we'll see whatever. And they have a 1249 01:16:55,890 --> 01:16:58,590 discussion a minute long discussion, like Oh, of course, 1250 01:16:58,620 --> 01:17:01,770 and they actually lay it out for me. So I understand why this is 1251 01:17:01,770 --> 01:17:05,460 happening. This is all part of the scam pain. And the American 1252 01:17:05,460 --> 01:17:08,610 human resources are so dumb that we're buying into a checkup to 1253 01:17:08,610 --> 01:17:11,280 create implant computer bugs into systems running around 1254 01:17:11,310 --> 01:17:14,520 nuclear facilities. David Gregory is moderator NBCs meet 1255 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,980 the present. David, I want to start with this because in many 1256 01:17:16,980 --> 01:17:20,340 ways, it's a it's a huge story. And on any other day we'd be 1257 01:17:20,340 --> 01:17:23,040 talking about on any other day, we'll be talking about it. But 1258 01:17:23,070 --> 01:17:26,610 you know, of course, we just kind of slip this is the US 1259 01:17:26,610 --> 01:17:30,150 government essentially acknowledging that it is at war, 1260 01:17:30,180 --> 01:17:34,350 but in cyberspace with Iran. Well, it's a huge story. And 1261 01:17:34,350 --> 01:17:37,170 it's a huge issue. You know, there have been warnings about 1262 01:17:37,170 --> 01:17:41,250 this now for years, about not only our vulnerability to cyber 1263 01:17:41,250 --> 01:17:45,180 attack as a new front in the war on terror, but also what the 1264 01:17:45,180 --> 01:17:48,360 United States and its allies have been doing to target Iran's 1265 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:52,680 nuclear program, which have less to do with diplomacy, and any 1266 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,860 kind of armed conflict and a lot more to do with what can be done 1267 01:17:55,860 --> 01:18:00,780 via computer viruses to attack Iran and apparently successfully 1268 01:18:00,780 --> 01:18:04,020 over the past several years to at least slow the growth of a 1269 01:18:04,020 --> 01:18:06,300 program. You know, what's interesting about the program is 1270 01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:10,110 that it's one of the two main programs that President Obama is 1271 01:18:10,110 --> 01:18:13,200 continuing from the Bush administration aggressive 1272 01:18:13,710 --> 01:18:17,430 decision to make on that front along with drones, which made 1273 01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:20,820 this Mitt Romney comment last night on CBS. All the more 1274 01:18:20,820 --> 01:18:23,370 striking when he was asked to grade the President's foreign 1275 01:18:23,370 --> 01:18:29,280 policy record. Here's what he said. What grade would you give 1276 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:33,810 President Obama? Oh, yeah. So that's what that's why they're 1277 01:18:33,810 --> 01:18:34,110 doing 1278 01:18:34,110 --> 01:18:37,770 it. Oh, how nice How cute. Oh, I see what they're saying. I get 1279 01:18:37,770 --> 01:18:40,770 what they're after. They're they're through proxy. They're 1280 01:18:40,770 --> 01:18:46,200 giving George Bush and F. Yeah. And like, so what Yeah, wishes 1281 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:47,520 but hasn't been around forever, 1282 01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:51,390 basically. So Romney, you're an idiot, because you're giving 1283 01:18:51,390 --> 01:18:54,570 Bush an F because it was Bush's program? Yeah. But in the 1284 01:18:54,570 --> 01:18:58,020 meantime, nice, dry. In the meantime, this is a complete and 1285 01:18:58,020 --> 01:19:02,940 utter outrage. And if you accept because the president and by 1286 01:19:02,940 --> 01:19:05,880 that Richard Stallman of all people, Richard Stallman, the 1287 01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:10,890 guy for open networks and for, you know, for free software. 1288 01:19:11,250 --> 01:19:13,530 He's saying, Oh, this is probably a good idea. The 1289 01:19:13,530 --> 01:19:18,300 president's doing that. Richard Stallman I condemn you. i You 1290 01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:22,170 are bein you are shunned from my world. Now. I had respect for 1291 01:19:22,170 --> 01:19:26,340 you. This is cyber warfare. You can't 1292 01:19:26,580 --> 01:19:28,500 there's no ways war. Yes. 1293 01:19:28,530 --> 01:19:31,020 There's no way you can you can condone that. 1294 01:19:31,050 --> 01:19:34,380 Well, the other thing is I find it and to encourage it. I think 1295 01:19:34,380 --> 01:19:37,620 there's there's a couple of things here that have to be paid 1296 01:19:37,620 --> 01:19:41,010 some attention has to be paid to the following. The Russians have 1297 01:19:41,010 --> 01:19:44,400 already the Kaspersky guys have already grabbed this thing. And 1298 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,470 they've deconstructed it and they know how it works and 1299 01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:49,050 they've got the whole thing down. You can't really this is 1300 01:19:49,050 --> 01:19:52,170 not like a I mean, I think it's an interesting idea that you 1301 01:19:52,170 --> 01:19:54,870 could if you actually had a war and you declared it and you 1302 01:19:54,900 --> 01:19:57,150 started using these things to to 1303 01:19:57,330 --> 01:20:01,050 attack the AI that is different if you declare war. I agree. But 1304 01:20:01,110 --> 01:20:01,710 even if 1305 01:20:01,710 --> 01:20:05,940 you did it, then these are not bombs that when you throw a bomb 1306 01:20:05,940 --> 01:20:09,000 and it blows up the bomb is, you know, nobody's gonna do these 1307 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,450 things can be grabbed and then turned around and get sent the 1308 01:20:12,450 --> 01:20:13,410 other way. Yes, 1309 01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:16,950 exactly. And now in the 1310 01:20:17,159 --> 01:20:21,779 Iranians, the Iranians are not idiots. And they have plenty of 1311 01:20:21,779 --> 01:20:24,779 people that can code like anyplace else. And they could 1312 01:20:24,779 --> 01:20:27,059 grab this code and just send it right back into our 1313 01:20:27,059 --> 01:20:27,899 infrastructure, 1314 01:20:27,929 --> 01:20:31,409 which is now starts to explain why everyone on the Hill was 1315 01:20:31,409 --> 01:20:35,429 freaking out about cyber warfare is because Oh, crap. Our 1316 01:20:35,429 --> 01:20:37,619 president like unleased his button. There's another one 1317 01:20:37,619 --> 01:20:40,499 flame, which if you read the name is the one I'm talking 1318 01:20:40,499 --> 01:20:44,099 about. Okay, well, it doesn't matter, because that is also 1319 01:20:44,099 --> 01:20:47,159 according to The New York Times article is also an initiative by 1320 01:20:47,159 --> 01:20:48,449 the Obama administration. No, 1321 01:20:48,450 --> 01:20:50,580 that's the one I think it triggered the whole thing. Flame 1322 01:20:50,580 --> 01:20:51,000 is no one 1323 01:20:51,959 --> 01:20:53,399 talks in the New York Times. 1324 01:20:53,909 --> 01:20:57,449 Is the old yeah, that's that thing's not a play Bama probably 1325 01:20:57,749 --> 01:20:59,669 one that the Russians grabbed. And that's the one that's Yeah, 1326 01:20:59,669 --> 01:21:02,309 we talked about in the last show. Yeah, I had the quote that 1327 01:21:02,309 --> 01:21:05,969 said, Well, it's everything you'd ever want, is a 20 1328 01:21:05,969 --> 01:21:08,249 megabyte file that's got everything in it turns on the 1329 01:21:08,249 --> 01:21:11,549 microphones, it does all these things. Well, you just gave them 1330 01:21:11,549 --> 01:21:14,999 to you just like giving somebody that plans to how to make an H 1331 01:21:14,999 --> 01:21:15,509 bomb. 1332 01:21:16,169 --> 01:21:20,129 But even better, if you think your president won't use I mean, 1333 01:21:20,129 --> 01:21:24,359 look at the drone program. We now have drones coming over our 1334 01:21:24,359 --> 01:21:28,079 own skies in the US. So they're gonna turn flame against the 1335 01:21:28,079 --> 01:21:31,469 United's the people of the United States as well. It's 1336 01:21:31,469 --> 01:21:36,659 going to be it's going to be everywhere. The lack of outrage 1337 01:21:36,659 --> 01:21:42,719 is what's just astounding to me. Astounding. Although there is 1338 01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:45,629 some blowback from from the left, I would say. 1339 01:21:47,850 --> 01:21:50,820 It's really pathetic when the left has to do this dirty work. 1340 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:54,180 Yeah, let me see. There was a pretty good article, Forbes 1341 01:21:54,180 --> 01:22:00,540 actually had a good rundown. And some of the leftist publications 1342 01:22:00,540 --> 01:22:04,080 are calling him a psychopathic megalomaniac. Like, okay, I'm, 1343 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,930 I'm down with that. That's that's kind of what I call him. 1344 01:22:07,500 --> 01:22:12,780 He is a psychopath. And he's worse than George Bush was a 1345 01:22:12,780 --> 01:22:16,560 psychopath. They're all psychopaths. Here we go. What 1346 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:24,180 was this? I'm sorry, I can't find it that quickly. But you 1347 01:22:24,180 --> 01:22:27,990 know, lots of left wing publications are now saying, 1348 01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:31,710 Hey, hold on a second. This is out of control. But the American 1349 01:22:31,710 --> 01:22:35,400 public, and you know, when I hit with someone like Stallman, 1350 01:22:36,090 --> 01:22:37,980 that, that surprised me, 1351 01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:39,360 that surprises me. 1352 01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:43,200 Yeah, I mean, you know, cyber warfare, this is not how you 1353 01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:48,480 play. This is not the game and in our own laws in the National 1354 01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:51,990 Defense Authorization Act, if you know and the Cybersecurity 1355 01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:54,780 Act, everything that's being passed now says if someone is 1356 01:22:54,780 --> 01:22:58,200 going to wage cyber warfare and US will will hit them back with 1357 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:04,650 bombs. Well, you know, people in glass houses Dude, don't do 1358 01:23:04,650 --> 01:23:10,650 this. This is not not good. And by the way, they were enriching 1359 01:23:10,650 --> 01:23:18,990 uranium. They say for this goes way back they say for for 1360 01:23:18,990 --> 01:23:22,500 nuclear power. So you're denying someone of their right to create 1361 01:23:22,590 --> 01:23:26,580 nuclear power. But the whole thing is effed. 1362 01:23:28,380 --> 01:23:30,990 It's not good, and it's not healthy, and it's gonna just 1363 01:23:30,990 --> 01:23:34,560 backfire. Because, again, I think it's just I think it's an 1364 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,500 impeachment over the blueprint of all kinds of trouble. 1365 01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:42,690 But I think it's an impeachable offense for him to do this. It's 1366 01:23:42,690 --> 01:23:43,380 really 1367 01:23:43,740 --> 01:23:45,720 you don't think it's an impeachable offense for him to 1368 01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,760 drone an American without due process 1369 01:23:47,790 --> 01:23:51,120 course. But this is now we're talking our world now. We're 1370 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:55,290 talking the interwebs the people who are smart are supposed to be 1371 01:23:55,290 --> 01:23:58,050 saying this is not okay. But the people who were smart are 1372 01:23:58,050 --> 01:24:01,380 saying, Oh, I tweeted this out. I said, I do not approve of my 1373 01:24:01,380 --> 01:24:05,430 president. Waging cyber warfare. The tweets I got back. He's 1374 01:24:05,430 --> 01:24:09,360 like, man, would you rather have Iran with nukes? 1375 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,790 Yeah, that's what you're gonna have. That would be what I'd 1376 01:24:14,790 --> 01:24:16,140 expect you to get back. 1377 01:24:16,230 --> 01:24:20,010 I know and I haven't but I'm just so disappointed. 1378 01:24:21,210 --> 01:24:22,590 It's pretty pathetic now. 1379 01:24:25,140 --> 01:24:26,280 pretty pathetic. 1380 01:24:26,490 --> 01:24:27,630 It's pretty pathetic. 1381 01:24:27,660 --> 01:24:30,660 You wait this flame thing will the will will turn on you. 1382 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,450 Oh, yeah, no flame is gonna be bad. I'm gonna have to talk to 1383 01:24:33,450 --> 01:24:40,710 my friends up in Nova Scotia who who deal with anti spyware 1384 01:24:40,740 --> 01:24:44,430 specifically, specifically Yes, stuff that you can install on a 1385 01:24:44,430 --> 01:24:47,460 machine and it's almost impossible for a virus or anti 1386 01:24:47,460 --> 01:24:50,550 virus software to find it, you know, key loggers in which is 1387 01:24:50,550 --> 01:24:52,020 this claim has got a keylogger not 1388 01:24:52,020 --> 01:24:55,410 for a second. Do I not believe that McAfee and all these other 1389 01:24:55,470 --> 01:24:59,010 companies are and this might actually explain the story that 1390 01:24:59,010 --> 01:25:02,190 we didn't talk about. The founder of McAfee, you know, he 1391 01:25:02,190 --> 01:25:05,790 has like a there was like crazy story that he's he's hiding out 1392 01:25:05,790 --> 01:25:09,930 he's running a meth lab 10 to one the guy has the goods that 1393 01:25:09,930 --> 01:25:13,290 McAfee is actually helping install this crap on computers 1394 01:25:13,290 --> 01:25:16,080 worldwide, and they need to get rid of him and certainly 1395 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,600 discredit him before he comes out and says, Hey, you know, 1396 01:25:19,020 --> 01:25:22,770 that company that I started that everyone thinks is protecting 1397 01:25:22,770 --> 01:25:25,920 you and protecting corporate America? Well, actually, they're 1398 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,760 helping the government put crap on the computers to spy. 1399 01:25:31,350 --> 01:25:37,230 Yeah, by May 2 2012, which is recent. Matt McAfee's property 1400 01:25:37,230 --> 01:25:40,050 in orange walked down Belize, which he hit where he had to 1401 01:25:40,050 --> 01:25:44,250 move was raided by gang suppression unit. The gang 1402 01:25:44,250 --> 01:25:47,070 suppression unit GSU press release stated that he was 1403 01:25:47,070 --> 01:25:50,520 arrested for unlicensed drug manufacturing and possession of 1404 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,510 an unlicensed weapon. McAfee was allegedly in the presence of His 1405 01:25:54,510 --> 01:25:58,770 17 year old Belizian girlfriend. All charges were dropped and Mr. 1406 01:25:58,770 --> 01:26:02,340 McAfee is suing the bid LeSean government for false arrest. 1407 01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,940 Right? Yes. Does it sound like it's going in the right 1408 01:26:05,940 --> 01:26:07,020 direction for this guy? 1409 01:26:07,380 --> 01:26:10,950 No. So it sounds like a discrediting move, if anything. 1410 01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:14,160 So 1411 01:26:15,930 --> 01:26:20,850 more reason to load one distro of Linux and lock it down. And 1412 01:26:20,850 --> 01:26:22,740 lock it down isn't done. And somebody 1413 01:26:22,740 --> 01:26:28,380 the chatroom said no, that's me. isn't a bad idea 1414 01:26:28,410 --> 01:26:31,560 like it. But anyway, I have to say the good news is and I have 1415 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:38,040 a clip of this. Luckily, our President is very fluent in 1416 01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:43,710 technology. Now you think that he's only a constitutional law, 1417 01:26:43,950 --> 01:26:47,070 scholar and professor, but he actually knows he knows his 1418 01:26:47,070 --> 01:26:50,400 stuff when it comes to technology. And I wish as much 1419 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:54,330 as I hate this droning and the cyber warfare, I'm happy to know 1420 01:26:54,330 --> 01:27:00,150 that you he knows his technology. Let's get that done 1421 01:27:00,150 --> 01:27:03,750 right now. That means they're gonna be you know, if you got 1422 01:27:03,780 --> 01:27:08,670 $3,000 A year extra, that helps you pay down your credit cards 1423 01:27:08,670 --> 01:27:11,370 that helps you go out and buy some things that your family 1424 01:27:11,370 --> 01:27:14,880 needs, which is good for business, maybe somebody will be 1425 01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:19,320 replacing some thingamajig further further furnace, hey, 1426 01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,230 you perfect. The thingamajig 1427 01:27:23,580 --> 01:27:27,390 thingamajig. And under US tour RZ gets 1428 01:27:27,630 --> 01:27:28,740 thingamajig 1429 01:27:29,820 --> 01:27:32,490 I don't even know if he uses a computer. I mean, he his whole 1430 01:27:32,490 --> 01:27:33,840 life was spent on a Blackberry 1431 01:27:34,679 --> 01:27:37,559 thingamajig he doesn't need to move, I got a Blackberry and any 1432 01:27:37,559 --> 01:27:39,029 one of those thingamajigs effect 1433 01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:44,100 and you would have this vet Qudra character as this CTO or 1434 01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:47,760 CFO, whatever the heck he was. It was ridiculous. To me. It's 1435 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,570 like he just didn't even talk to this guy guy. So anyway, I have 1436 01:27:51,930 --> 01:27:53,460 a little lighter clip, 1437 01:27:54,299 --> 01:27:55,469 why you didn't like my thing 1438 01:27:56,910 --> 01:27:59,520 was okay, that was pretty light. I'll save this one. 1439 01:28:00,059 --> 01:28:05,489 Save the light. Save the light until you for the thingamajig. 1440 01:28:05,610 --> 01:28:08,940 So play the Global War on Terrorism metal clip. And I want 1441 01:28:08,940 --> 01:28:12,030 I want to play this because I noticed this at the event where 1442 01:28:12,030 --> 01:28:14,550 all these guys are, you know, all these Iraq Veterans Against 1443 01:28:14,550 --> 01:28:21,540 the War. Iraq Veterans Against the War, had all been using the 1444 01:28:21,540 --> 01:28:24,570 same meme, which is now becoming an interesting one, because I 1445 01:28:24,570 --> 01:28:27,210 didn't think it was going to actually get out there. Which is 1446 01:28:27,210 --> 01:28:29,580 it's a global war on an adjective 1447 01:28:30,510 --> 01:28:33,510 on a weekly basis, and we're seeing other units do the same. 1448 01:28:33,900 --> 01:28:37,260 We can also see that when we entered a home, even if there 1449 01:28:37,290 --> 01:28:40,110 wasn't a terrorist there before there was when we left and we 1450 01:28:40,110 --> 01:28:43,050 were radicalizing the entire population just by our presence. 1451 01:28:44,220 --> 01:28:48,150 You're wearing a metal what is the metal for this is the Global 1452 01:28:48,150 --> 01:28:51,900 War on Terrorism metal, anybody who serves post 911 in the 1453 01:28:51,900 --> 01:28:55,260 United States military serves in the global war on an adjective. 1454 01:28:55,650 --> 01:28:57,840 What are you doing with it? today? I'm going to be turning 1455 01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,090 it back into the generals at NATO to demonstrate that I 1456 01:29:00,090 --> 01:29:03,960 reject the medal. I reject what it means and I reject any 1457 01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:05,400 affiliation with this war. 1458 01:29:05,550 --> 01:29:08,370 That's a very good one. I liked that global war and an adjective 1459 01:29:09,330 --> 01:29:12,030 which is what what it what it is, that's what it is 1460 01:29:12,060 --> 01:29:14,970 what it is, it doesn't there's no enemy. It's just an 1461 01:29:14,970 --> 01:29:19,140 adjective. And it's so happy. I'm so happy. There's also a 1462 01:29:19,140 --> 01:29:20,520 noun but anyway, 1463 01:29:20,700 --> 01:29:25,230 this is this enlightens me. It makes me happy to hear that 1464 01:29:25,230 --> 01:29:29,400 people are out there say calling bullcrap. Unfortunately, the 1465 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:34,650 news diet you're receiving is not you know, you got to full 1466 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,560 what does it call it? Full on sugar? 1467 01:29:38,250 --> 01:29:45,900 full sugar drink the full sugar drink. Yeah, so they this was a 1468 01:29:45,900 --> 01:29:49,140 pretty big gathering in Chicago with these veterans throwing 1469 01:29:49,140 --> 01:29:53,850 their their war on terrorism badge away. We're on whatever 1470 01:29:53,850 --> 01:29:57,090 else they had, and it was not covered in the lease and I 1471 01:29:57,090 --> 01:30:00,300 thought it would if I was doing the news. I mean, this one It 1472 01:30:00,300 --> 01:30:03,570 was actually kind of interesting that this was going on. But they 1473 01:30:03,570 --> 01:30:09,000 didn't there was zero coverage of this. Zero. No. No. And it's 1474 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,310 like the riots that are going on in Spain. They showed some good 1475 01:30:11,310 --> 01:30:13,740 stuff, Spain's got a bunch of cops beating the crap out of 1476 01:30:13,740 --> 01:30:16,680 people in Greece has got a daily riots, none of this, we don't 1477 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,710 get any of it. Everybody's just left into dark. And then we're 1478 01:30:19,710 --> 01:30:22,710 going to all be the public. Not that listeners to our show. 1479 01:30:22,710 --> 01:30:25,770 Obviously, we know what's going on. But the public at large, 1480 01:30:25,770 --> 01:30:28,890 which is the problem, they're going to be like stunned and 1481 01:30:28,890 --> 01:30:32,730 dismayed. How did this happen 1482 01:30:32,730 --> 01:30:37,440 without us knowing? So I wrote an interesting article, a blog 1483 01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:40,740 post the other day, that said, you know, the news diet, that's 1484 01:30:40,740 --> 01:30:43,380 why I'm using it the news diet that we get from television 1485 01:30:43,380 --> 01:30:47,820 news, and from ever anything really, mainstream news is like 1486 01:30:47,820 --> 01:30:52,890 junk news. And it'll, it'll make you fat and bloated and a mobile 1487 01:30:52,890 --> 01:30:55,410 just like junk food. And I think there's something really to it. 1488 01:30:55,410 --> 01:30:58,860 And if anything, that is what we do here is we provide you with a 1489 01:30:58,860 --> 01:31:03,270 healthy balanced diet. No. And are we are we really vegetables? 1490 01:31:03,270 --> 01:31:08,250 No. Sometimes we you know, we're hard to swallow. But it's 1491 01:31:08,250 --> 01:31:10,470 important. It's important that you get this and that's why 1492 01:31:10,470 --> 01:31:12,870 you're probably feeling good. Even though you're on the 1493 01:31:12,870 --> 01:31:15,960 surface. You're bummed out all this stuff, but somewhere deep 1494 01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:19,950 down under you actually kind of okay, shadow puppet theater. 1495 01:31:20,310 --> 01:31:23,340 This was a good one. You know, WebMD 1496 01:31:24,630 --> 01:31:29,610 Oh, yeah. That's the wisdom by the Netscape guy. Yeah. Jim. 1497 01:31:30,210 --> 01:31:31,140 Jim, Jim. 1498 01:31:31,170 --> 01:31:37,440 Jim. Jim, Jim slim, Jim. So when Ben WebMD is, I would say is 1499 01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:40,800 it's kind of the go to company for a lot of people go to 1500 01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,470 website if they want to look up when you know what they think 1501 01:31:43,470 --> 01:31:45,660 they have or what they've been diagnosed with. In fact, I was 1502 01:31:45,660 --> 01:31:51,570 watching that movie with Seth. What's the guy? The funny guy, 1503 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,010 Seth MacFarlane, Seth 1504 01:31:53,010 --> 01:31:55,230 Rogen, Seth rose, Seth Rogen 50. 1505 01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,560 By the way, there's Seth Meyers Seth Rogen setback, but there's 1506 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,770 a whole bunch more I can name about 10 of them. What is the 1507 01:32:01,770 --> 01:32:05,130 name? Seth. They're all the same age. It's kind of a wimpy name. 1508 01:32:05,580 --> 01:32:07,620 It's a wimpy name. But it's all they're all the same age. 1509 01:32:07,620 --> 01:32:09,690 They're all the same group. There's about six or seven all 1510 01:32:09,690 --> 01:32:13,530 in Hollywood all famous. Where does this name and this doesn't 1511 01:32:13,530 --> 01:32:17,160 exist after or before? So where did it come from? Or no, 1512 01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:22,560 no, we should look that up to the Seth Rogen movie 5050 1513 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,010 Where's buddy gets cancer and, and you see him looking up this 1514 01:32:26,010 --> 01:32:29,400 horrible disease that he has on WebMD. So nice little product 1515 01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:33,420 placement there. So it's not doing too well. But of course, 1516 01:32:33,630 --> 01:32:37,140 if you look at WebMD if you dig under the covers, you'll see 1517 01:32:37,140 --> 01:32:41,820 that the people who are funding the company is Big Pharma. And 1518 01:32:41,820 --> 01:32:44,400 they're under pressure from the shareholders to bolster its 1519 01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:51,690 share price. They have now named Kevin M Redmond as its CEO, and 1520 01:32:51,690 --> 01:32:55,080 he of course is a senior executive at Pfizer. There's no 1521 01:32:55,080 --> 01:33:00,810 conflict of interest there. Wow. Yeah. Blatant, isn't it? 1522 01:33:00,990 --> 01:33:02,940 Oh, yeah, it's bad. Yeah, just 1523 01:33:02,970 --> 01:33:06,420 put the put the shill in charge of everything because then the 1524 01:33:06,420 --> 01:33:09,450 other guy doing no good. You gotta you gotta you gotta stock 1525 01:33:09,450 --> 01:33:10,710 report on the Pfizer 1526 01:33:11,910 --> 01:33:14,400 file. It can't be doing very well, at the moment. Let me 1527 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:15,060 look. Take a look. I'm 1528 01:33:15,060 --> 01:33:17,190 not Pfizer I'm sorry. WebMD 1529 01:33:18,870 --> 01:33:21,660 web I'm doing this is uh, is public, I believe. 1530 01:33:21,690 --> 01:33:23,550 Yeah, absolutely. 1531 01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:31,530 Web MD health Corp. Web MD 2282. down little bit. Let's see what 1532 01:33:31,530 --> 01:33:36,540 it looks like long term. It was as high as 50. Yes. Down. It's 1533 01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:41,400 bouncing around the $23 level and it's just stay it's dead 1534 01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:46,620 money. Yeah. Dead money. looks dead money to me that took a 1535 01:33:46,620 --> 01:33:50,430 plunge around January 1 part of January was floating around just 1536 01:33:50,430 --> 01:33:54,420 under 40. And then just took a big knife wrong. Under a large 1537 01:33:54,420 --> 01:33:54,990 volume 1538 01:33:55,410 --> 01:33:58,890 just fell. Yeah, that's when they put him in. I'm sure. 1539 01:33:59,490 --> 01:34:01,350 This would be January 15. 1540 01:34:04,050 --> 01:34:07,380 The chairman of webmd says he has a successful track record in 1541 01:34:07,380 --> 01:34:10,410 identifying and leveraging new revenue opportunities, driving 1542 01:34:10,410 --> 01:34:13,560 efficiency, establishing sustainable growth platforms. 1543 01:34:14,010 --> 01:34:18,090 You know, that's what my career is built on. Sustainable Growth 1544 01:34:18,090 --> 01:34:23,010 platforms. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. But got to producer Vicky sent 1545 01:34:23,010 --> 01:34:28,830 me a new possible script on the HPV scam, which by the way, Miss 1546 01:34:28,830 --> 01:34:35,490 Mickey was at a doctor. And she was talking about this. And the 1547 01:34:35,490 --> 01:34:37,740 doctor said, you know, the whole thing is such a scam. This 1548 01:34:37,740 --> 01:34:41,670 strain, the so called strains that HPV fights against don't 1549 01:34:41,670 --> 01:34:44,790 even exist in the United States, which I have not been able to 1550 01:34:44,790 --> 01:34:47,730 verify. And it wouldn't surprise me. 1551 01:34:48,090 --> 01:34:51,630 I was just a real doctor. Was this your mirror? No. This was 1552 01:34:51,630 --> 01:34:55,380 not the Voodoo doc. Now this was a real doctor. So here my son's 1553 01:34:55,380 --> 01:34:59,370 doctor. This is a producer Vicki told my 18 year old son he 1554 01:34:59,370 --> 01:35:04,200 needed to get The HPV vaccine because, quote, the girls are 1555 01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:12,090 getting it and the guys need to step up and do their part. This 1556 01:35:12,090 --> 01:35:15,570 doctor is very reputable by him kicking myself for him getting 1557 01:35:15,570 --> 01:35:18,720 the series of three shots. He got the shots before we realized 1558 01:35:18,900 --> 01:35:21,780 there could be health problems. Just an FYI, we live in Maine. 1559 01:35:22,290 --> 01:35:25,080 Please keep the rest of my information confidential. 1560 01:35:25,230 --> 01:35:26,280 It's ridiculous. 1561 01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:29,490 How about that? The girls are getting it. So the guys need to 1562 01:35:29,490 --> 01:35:34,110 step up. Do your part slave take this expensive shot. 1563 01:35:36,150 --> 01:35:40,740 I have heard around the office. At least two women who got 1564 01:35:41,580 --> 01:35:43,980 there. I don't know I didn't bother following up because I 1565 01:35:43,980 --> 01:35:46,950 didn't think much about it. But they'd come back for after being 1566 01:35:46,950 --> 01:35:51,450 tested for cancer. And then I didn't think much about I didn't 1567 01:35:51,450 --> 01:35:53,970 think it was probably part of the same scam. But now I think 1568 01:35:53,970 --> 01:35:56,400 about I'm going to ask each one of them what the outcome wasn't. 1569 01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,460 I basically took it as stupid shot to drop 400 bucks on it. 1570 01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,680 Well, you know, you know the script by now. It's like, yeah, 1571 01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:05,760 with this script is a biopsy. Yeah. You go in, they test you 1572 01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:10,530 for HPV they give you a test. And from a machine that doesn't 1573 01:36:10,530 --> 01:36:13,560 work and gives a lot of false positives. You get a false 1574 01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:17,280 positive so they do a biopsy. Yeah, you just got to be painful 1575 01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,490 and dangerous. You freak out for a week because you're pre 1576 01:36:20,490 --> 01:36:24,060 cancer, you'll come back clean, but just to make sure they give 1577 01:36:24,060 --> 01:36:28,890 you a shot. Bend over. It's a great it's a great scam. It's 1578 01:36:28,890 --> 01:36:31,770 scary. Yeah, well, of course, we got a we got a nice letter from 1579 01:36:31,770 --> 01:36:35,220 one of our listeners, moaning about the fact that we're anti 1580 01:36:35,220 --> 01:36:39,480 vaccine vaccination when this is not true. And he said, you know, 1581 01:36:39,480 --> 01:36:42,630 just it was just like this horrible note that we get these 1582 01:36:42,660 --> 01:36:45,990 people that you have it, show the listen to one show, they 1583 01:36:45,990 --> 01:36:49,260 don't really get into what we're trying to do. And they don't 1584 01:36:49,260 --> 01:36:52,500 like us probably is one reason. I mean, we're not necessarily to 1585 01:36:52,500 --> 01:36:56,520 likable guy. No, at least not to everybody. Hold on a second. 1586 01:36:56,940 --> 01:37:02,310 John C. Dvorak states the over obvious. We're not likable guys. 1587 01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:06,510 Typically likable guys. And so if you're not like looking for 1588 01:37:06,510 --> 01:37:11,100 something, you know, CNN ish, from this show, which we're not 1589 01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:14,430 going to ever deliver. You get to get you listen to a couple of 1590 01:37:14,430 --> 01:37:17,460 things you get. Yeah, you're fully crap. Yeah. And you're 1591 01:37:17,460 --> 01:37:20,100 anti vaxxers. I mean, they got a nasty note about you and your 1592 01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:21,150 voodoo doctor. 1593 01:37:21,210 --> 01:37:24,480 Yeah. Oh, yeah, of course. Crazy. I'm not 1594 01:37:25,139 --> 01:37:28,739 well, while the you're not arguing that you're nuts such 1595 01:37:28,829 --> 01:37:29,819 that they don't get 1596 01:37:29,849 --> 01:37:36,059 no. The new study new research by physicians at the University 1597 01:37:36,059 --> 01:37:41,459 of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey. That's the UMDNJ for 1598 01:37:41,459 --> 01:37:46,439 you. The Robert Wood Johnson Medical School has not come out. 1599 01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:51,629 Surprisingly, John, surprisingly, individuals with 1600 01:37:51,629 --> 01:37:56,369 schizophrenia or schizo affective disorder, have a 1601 01:37:56,369 --> 01:38:00,119 greater severity of nicotine dependence, and therefore 1602 01:38:00,119 --> 01:38:03,239 require a more potent treatment plan than the general 1603 01:38:03,239 --> 01:38:07,739 population. When it comes to Chantix usage. It is considered 1604 01:38:07,739 --> 01:38:10,589 safe and effective treatment for helping people with 1605 01:38:10,589 --> 01:38:17,249 schizophrenia to quit smoking. That's the funniest thing I've 1606 01:38:17,249 --> 01:38:22,259 ever heard. People who aren't schizophrenic go nuts on this 1607 01:38:22,259 --> 01:38:26,759 drug. And now they're saying you just need to up the dosage. 1608 01:38:27,239 --> 01:38:31,709 That's okay. Because you're schizophrenic. So, don't worry, 1609 01:38:31,859 --> 01:38:34,649 you'll stop smoking. I mean, you might go around killing your 1610 01:38:34,649 --> 01:38:37,559 neighbor's goat in your underwear. But you'll stop 1611 01:38:37,559 --> 01:38:43,289 smoking. This is the pharmaceutical industrial 1612 01:38:43,289 --> 01:38:46,799 complex, I should say pharmaceutical educational 1613 01:38:46,799 --> 01:38:51,389 industrial complex, which is just out of control. That they 1614 01:38:51,389 --> 01:38:56,339 get paid for this research to say it's safe if you know, we 1615 01:38:56,339 --> 01:38:59,579 know people are wigging out. And how many how many people have we 1616 01:38:59,579 --> 01:39:02,999 had email into the show? Say, oh, man, I'm so glad you guys 1617 01:39:02,999 --> 01:39:05,759 told me to get off that stuff. Because I was freaking out. 1618 01:39:07,740 --> 01:39:10,500 Yeah, we're not given medical advice. By the way. We're no no 1619 01:39:10,500 --> 01:39:11,820 no lating anecdotes. 1620 01:39:11,849 --> 01:39:16,079 That's exactly right. And speaking of anecdotes, Fareed 1621 01:39:16,079 --> 01:39:23,459 Zakaria, global global shill of the New World Order, hangs out 1622 01:39:23,459 --> 01:39:27,779 with President Obama all the time drinking some root beer. He 1623 01:39:27,779 --> 01:39:31,589 did the commencement speech at Harvard. I guess he's a 1624 01:39:31,589 --> 01:39:31,979 heartbeat 1625 01:39:31,980 --> 01:39:35,190 really sunk to the bottom. What they bring that clown in there 1626 01:39:35,190 --> 01:39:35,700 for 1627 01:39:35,730 --> 01:39:38,010 well, he actually was quite entertaining was clowny he was 1628 01:39:38,010 --> 01:39:40,350 pretty funny and had a couple of good zingers, good lines. He 1629 01:39:40,350 --> 01:39:42,630 didn't get to wear a crazy Cape though. I thought that was kind 1630 01:39:42,630 --> 01:39:43,590 of lame. If you're gonna do 1631 01:39:43,860 --> 01:39:45,930 want to wear the cape. He could have worn the cape. You can wear 1632 01:39:45,930 --> 01:39:49,110 the cape, I don't think I don't think they gave him a cape. He 1633 01:39:49,110 --> 01:39:49,800 didn't wear it 1634 01:39:50,010 --> 01:39:53,100 while he was in a suit. He wasn't wearing it yet. I know. I 1635 01:39:53,100 --> 01:39:55,440 think you know, if you've got to do the commencement speech, at 1636 01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:58,440 least get the cape but the big shoulders and like the 1637 01:39:58,440 --> 01:40:01,470 International Criminal Court can don't have white thing that's 1638 01:40:01,470 --> 01:40:08,070 cool, you know, big ringlets. No cape. But luckily, luckily 1639 01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:12,690 Fareed Zakaria can tell us that science has saved the world. 1640 01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:18,600 We forget our successes. In 2009, the h1 and one virus broke 1641 01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,840 out in Mexico. Now if you look back at the trajectory of these 1642 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,140 kinds of viruses, it's quite conceivable that this one would 1643 01:40:25,140 --> 01:40:31,290 have spread like the Asian flu of 1957 or 1968, which cost 4 1644 01:40:31,290 --> 01:40:35,520 million lives. But this time the Mexican health authorities 1645 01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,790 identified the problem early shared the information with the 1646 01:40:38,790 --> 01:40:42,510 World Health Organization, learn best practices track down where 1647 01:40:42,510 --> 01:40:45,810 the outbreak took place, quarantine people vaccinated 1648 01:40:45,810 --> 01:40:49,620 others, the country went on a full scale alert. In a very 1649 01:40:49,620 --> 01:40:52,830 Catholic country, it was not allowed to go to church for 1650 01:40:52,830 --> 01:40:56,070 three Sundays perhaps more importantly, you couldn't go to 1651 01:40:56,070 --> 01:41:00,540 a soccer game for three weeks but the result was that the 1652 01:41:00,540 --> 01:41:04,440 virus was contained to the point where three months later people 1653 01:41:04,440 --> 01:41:07,950 asked what was the fuss the sciences in 1654 01:41:09,540 --> 01:41:13,590 what was the fuss that's right science saved us for read 1655 01:41:15,990 --> 01:41:20,850 wow amazing just make it up as you go along. Yeah, all of us 1656 01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,520 you know millions are not using the scientific method to give us 1657 01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,790 this thesis that's for sure he's just Lavabit bla 1658 01:41:27,780 --> 01:41:31,440 millions of people could have died more millions millions 1659 01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:33,750 millions I tell you about thank you so much like 1660 01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:38,220 save jobs you know saved or created saved or created but 1661 01:41:38,220 --> 01:41:39,210 they dropped them I'm gonna 1662 01:41:39,210 --> 01:41:42,930 show my mood by donating to no agenda Imagine all the people 1663 01:41:42,930 --> 01:41:44,940 who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun 1664 01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:54,240 aliens could have died all right, just a few people to 1665 01:41:54,240 --> 01:42:01,770 thank for helping us on show for 14 Linda new when a 16962 1666 01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:10,530 interesting number 16962. Why? I don't know. John and Adam. Keep 1667 01:42:10,530 --> 01:42:13,080 up the great investigative work and analysis. Can you play my 1668 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:16,590 new favorite clip Reverend Manny's whooped a bomb is behind 1669 01:42:16,740 --> 01:42:19,920 the original or remix. Thanks. PS could you make sure the 1670 01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:24,000 donation on the April 5 One goes towards my husband Fernando Gil 1671 01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:27,120 Franco Knight is knighthood. I want to mention to people who 1672 01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,810 are developing knighthoods for one person or another, you do 1673 01:42:30,810 --> 01:42:34,890 the accounting and you send it to us and then we check to make 1674 01:42:34,890 --> 01:42:38,610 sure the numbers are correct. But you don't We don't pre move 1675 01:42:38,610 --> 01:42:42,750 money around. We just do just do it. We don't have a staff here. 1676 01:42:42,780 --> 01:42:45,030 We don't have the staff. We don't also have the it's just 1677 01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:47,400 too complicated. It's easier for you to do because you're the one 1678 01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,460 that's donating and we appreciate you doing that. Yeah. 1679 01:42:50,910 --> 01:42:55,260 Well do I have to I have to play the Oh yes. It's a slow day. We 1680 01:42:55,260 --> 01:43:02,190 might as well play the remix. Now. Get out there what's? 1681 01:43:19,860 --> 01:43:28,770 Up never gets old. No, it's a winner. Chris Potter from 1682 01:43:28,770 --> 01:43:32,220 Elmira, Ontario came with $100 in the morning, gentlemen, nice 1683 01:43:32,220 --> 01:43:37,980 little karma jingle. you'd appreciate it. You've got karma. 1684 01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:44,940 Sir James Brisco in Bayshore, New York 7328 comes in and says 1685 01:43:44,940 --> 01:43:48,450 Hey, fellas, as a no agenda night I have to donate. Please 1686 01:43:48,450 --> 01:43:51,450 give some karma to Sumita the love of my life. I've recently 1687 01:43:51,450 --> 01:43:53,970 come into some good fortune with work and I've just gotten a nice 1688 01:43:53,970 --> 01:43:56,550 short gig to make even more money for my not for profit 1689 01:43:56,550 --> 01:43:59,670 idea. that'll actually help people rather than steal. 1690 01:44:00,180 --> 01:44:02,760 However, at the moment, I don't deserve any luck or anything. So 1691 01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:03,630 give it to her. 1692 01:44:03,690 --> 01:44:05,970 Oh, that's very kind. Of course. We'd love to give her some 1693 01:44:05,970 --> 01:44:09,630 karma. Thank you got karma. Thank you for sharing your good 1694 01:44:09,630 --> 01:44:11,370 fortune with us. We appreciate that. 1695 01:44:11,580 --> 01:44:15,420 And even though we didn't have a very good turnout today, we did 1696 01:44:15,420 --> 01:44:20,310 have the continuation of the 6969 meme from Salt River studio 1697 01:44:20,310 --> 01:44:25,260 in plantation Florida. It's this is the Jamaican in Austin. Yeah, 1698 01:44:25,260 --> 01:44:28,200 this used to be the Jamaican in New York and I got to meet this 1699 01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:29,460 guy. He's an Austin now 1700 01:44:29,490 --> 01:44:34,050 he said Jamaican. I know his yonder lists for birthdays. 1701 01:44:35,700 --> 01:44:38,010 Hold on, let me double check that 1702 01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:43,440 probably no, no, no put him on. But the Jamaican and Austin 1703 01:44:43,440 --> 01:44:46,290 birthday. It's his birthday today. So I'd like a war on 1704 01:44:46,290 --> 01:44:48,780 chicken Huntsman karma. All right. 1705 01:44:56,070 --> 01:45:02,040 On chicken, top food, Holly algea jagah changing And if it 1706 01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:06,810 wasn't for karma easy don't step on the karma if it wasn't for 1707 01:45:06,810 --> 01:45:10,920 the Jamaican and Austin that 6969 would have been day over 1708 01:45:10,950 --> 01:45:13,110 because we don't have another one. Well, what when 1709 01:45:13,110 --> 01:45:16,710 it breaks by the way, when the chain is broken, we're no longer 1710 01:45:16,710 --> 01:45:21,990 accepting 6969 donations. We're just going to call it 70 1711 01:45:24,420 --> 01:45:25,920 Okay, withdrawing the extra penny. 1712 01:45:25,980 --> 01:45:30,180 It's a little more than a penny but yeah, we'll call it a penny. 1713 01:45:30,180 --> 01:45:30,960 Where's the penny? 1714 01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:38,910 There is a penny Royce Cami and IE, Hawaii. 6464 in the morning 1715 01:45:38,910 --> 01:45:42,960 both good fellas. It's Royce aka the clean freak. I wanted to get 1716 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:47,430 my donation of 6464 a little not the Mega 64 video production 1717 01:45:47,430 --> 01:45:50,400 company focusing on the video game industry in which they 1718 01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,640 create video games, skits, advertisements, and most 1719 01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:56,910 recently, they've worked with Konami to produce a video for 1720 01:45:56,910 --> 01:46:02,010 their latest project. Metal Gear Rising Revengeance vengeance 1721 01:46:02,460 --> 01:46:06,510 Revengeance really? This video was featured in the Konami's e 1722 01:46:06,510 --> 01:46:09,690 three pre show to visit their website Mega 60 four.com. Okay, 1723 01:46:10,050 --> 01:46:12,240 Netflix for them. I always always wanted to give them a 1724 01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:15,030 little plug plus a Karma shot two mega 64 crew and all the 1725 01:46:15,030 --> 01:46:20,400 internet soldiers. You've got karma Cool. 1726 01:46:20,430 --> 01:46:26,400 Thank you Mega 64 Good luck with that. Yeah, my Revengeance Hey, 1727 01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:30,930 you can always hire me for the voiceover Revengeance it's good. 1728 01:46:31,140 --> 01:46:32,100 Revengeance 1729 01:46:34,650 --> 01:46:38,370 Eduardo Sanchez in Hartford, Connecticut 5555. Here's the 1730 01:46:38,370 --> 01:46:41,580 donation that cover the months missed when Pay Pal canceled my 1731 01:46:41,940 --> 01:46:45,810 donation hate that. Please remind all of the producers to 1732 01:46:45,810 --> 01:46:48,960 check their pay pal accounts once a month to verify credit 1733 01:46:49,500 --> 01:46:52,020 cards have not expired. I also reinstated and raised my monthly 1734 01:46:52,020 --> 01:46:55,830 donation to 1212. Thank you for the great work Eduardo Sanchez, 1735 01:46:55,830 --> 01:47:00,420 former submarine, nuclear power plant operator current electric 1736 01:47:00,420 --> 01:47:02,130 grid operator in Hartford. 1737 01:47:02,220 --> 01:47:06,030 I just want to mention, briefly atomic rod I misstated on the 1738 01:47:06,030 --> 01:47:11,370 previous show that he had been in a nuclear sub for 33 years. 1739 01:47:11,670 --> 01:47:14,520 And he says it's very important to me he says you know that you 1740 01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:19,110 get my resume read right now. And so just a correction. He was 1741 01:47:19,110 --> 01:47:23,310 in service for 33 years. He spent six fighting five years 1742 01:47:23,700 --> 01:47:28,260 actually used submerged, but he I don't know if it was 1743 01:47:28,260 --> 01:47:31,680 concurrent. But he spent five years submerge so correction 1744 01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:32,190 made. 1745 01:47:33,270 --> 01:47:38,130 Yeah. Sounds like a long time and a sub to be 33 years. Yeah, 1746 01:47:38,190 --> 01:47:41,010 sir Matt Nicole in Brooklyn, New York fifth double nickels on the 1747 01:47:41,010 --> 01:47:45,570 dime. Night Matt Nicole congratulating Pete and Annie 1748 01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:50,340 realice new slave Jack, who was born on Tuesday May 29. Can I 1749 01:47:50,340 --> 01:47:55,170 get a newborn Shut up slave karma for Jack and one hot milk 1750 01:47:55,170 --> 01:47:56,250 shout out for Annie 1751 01:47:57,180 --> 01:48:03,510 Wait a minute the newborn Oh, what was that called again? Oh, 1752 01:48:03,510 --> 01:48:10,710 a second. Oh, man. That was a good kid. Is that weather? Is 1753 01:48:10,710 --> 01:48:14,640 that what they want? Yeah. What do you do any you ordering 1754 01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:15,750 stocks and bonds? 1755 01:48:15,900 --> 01:48:20,970 Yeah, mine is selling I don't think I can Cago Chicago they're 1756 01:48:20,970 --> 01:48:26,970 fine in New York. So I'm trying to find the kid a little kid 1757 01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:31,950 I have no that's one Didn't you want the the other one the the 1758 01:48:31,950 --> 01:48:35,100 kid saying Shut up slave or am I am I misunderstanding? 1759 01:48:35,969 --> 01:48:38,039 Shut up slave newborn Shut 1760 01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:43,560 up slave karma. Okay. Well, oh, well, whatever. Whatever. Try 1761 01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:51,030 this one hot now. You've got karma. Also, I've purchased Jack 1762 01:48:51,030 --> 01:48:55,500 real.com The first sons firstborn sons name a domain 1763 01:48:55,500 --> 01:48:59,430 name forwarding to no agenda show.com That's Jack real ri E H 1764 01:48:59,430 --> 01:49:03,750 L. I think this is a good initiative. Have all your kids 1765 01:49:04,350 --> 01:49:08,250 names forward to us? Oh, your kid belong to us. 1766 01:49:10,050 --> 01:49:14,790 A Greg Wilcox Gregory Wilcox in Phoenix, Arizona. 5007. And no 1767 01:49:15,090 --> 01:49:19,260 comment that I can see. Michael Kern Sir Michael Kearns in 1768 01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:23,850 Kansas City. Mo 50. It's okay to ship the ring. Whenever you get 1769 01:49:23,850 --> 01:49:26,820 around to it. There's another 50 to cover shipping and handling. 1770 01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:31,080 John, do you grind your own meat for burgers? If so, do you have 1771 01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:32,370 a favorite blend? 1772 01:49:33,630 --> 01:49:35,520 Why that's a great question. 1773 01:49:37,020 --> 01:49:40,620 I have a grinder but I generally don't grind my own meat for 1774 01:49:40,620 --> 01:49:44,670 burgers. So I don't have a favorite blend. I'm not quite I 1775 01:49:44,670 --> 01:49:47,520 mean if I sometimes if I make a mix I like to have about you 1776 01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:48,720 know 30% Veal. 1777 01:49:49,110 --> 01:49:52,200 Have you ever done buffalo burgers? Oh yeah, I love buffalo 1778 01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:54,990 burgers are quite good. Yeah, you got to charcoal on that. 1779 01:49:54,990 --> 01:49:58,350 It's got to be on the real grill to give the extra flavor 1780 01:49:59,610 --> 01:50:04,170 crispy For Graham in Sayreville, New Jersey, $50, by way, just 1781 01:50:04,170 --> 01:50:08,700 bought us half a steer. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It's a nice 1782 01:50:08,700 --> 01:50:11,310 process. And I want to remind people I'm going to do what in a 1783 01:50:11,310 --> 01:50:13,800 future show, we're gonna talk about this as more details, 1784 01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:16,980 because everybody should be doing this. It's discouraged by 1785 01:50:16,980 --> 01:50:19,050 the government, the FDA and everybody else don't want you 1786 01:50:19,050 --> 01:50:21,960 buying your own steer and having it butchered the way exact way 1787 01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:22,860 you want. It butchered. 1788 01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:29,220 Assessing processing. It's called processing. Yeah. 1789 01:50:29,850 --> 01:50:32,700 Cut and wrap. Yeah, but you have to talk you talk to the butcher. 1790 01:50:32,700 --> 01:50:34,560 And then they you know, they tell you what you tell him what 1791 01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:36,540 you want too much a bunch of French cuts. So you want a bunch 1792 01:50:36,540 --> 01:50:38,760 of steaks, you want a bunch of roast, whatever, you get what 1793 01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:44,280 you want. And it's like a couple dollars a pound. And it's just a 1794 01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:47,370 way to go and is better meat because you get you can keep 1795 01:50:47,370 --> 01:50:49,860 track of the animal, you can make sure it's only grass fed or 1796 01:50:49,860 --> 01:50:54,060 whatever. And it's just but they just discourage the people who 1797 01:50:54,060 --> 01:50:57,930 dig big. Cargill and these big companies do everything they can 1798 01:50:57,930 --> 01:51:00,300 to keep the public from buying this. I talked 1799 01:51:00,300 --> 01:51:04,350 to my meat guy at the at the market here in Austin yesterday 1800 01:51:04,350 --> 01:51:07,860 and he said I got it. I got a new one at the processing says 1801 01:51:07,860 --> 01:51:10,080 so you'll have your tenderloin next week because I ordered the 1802 01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:13,020 tenderloin couple other cuts. And so it's essentially he's 1803 01:51:13,020 --> 01:51:15,900 kind of the middle guy, but it's still a lot cheaper. I get a 1804 01:51:15,900 --> 01:51:19,530 whole tenderloin for 28 bucks, John a whole tenderloin, the 1805 01:51:19,530 --> 01:51:19,740 ones 1806 01:51:19,740 --> 01:51:22,680 that go for 70 bucks at Costco, which has good prices. 1807 01:51:22,740 --> 01:51:28,980 Yeah 28 bucks. And I said hey, did the did the animal have a 1808 01:51:28,980 --> 01:51:32,910 name? I'm always interested in that says yeah, big boy by I'll 1809 01:51:32,910 --> 01:51:35,280 call them all big boy when they're when they're big, big 1810 01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:38,580 boy. And when you when that when when the animal hears me calling 1811 01:51:38,580 --> 01:51:40,110 them big boy, he knows it's over. 1812 01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:46,140 Christopher grim and Sayreville, New Jersey back to him. $50 in 1813 01:51:46,140 --> 01:51:48,360 the morning, John and Adam wish I could donate more but just 1814 01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:52,200 donations equal a day's worth of work with all the BS removed. 1815 01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:55,590 Thank you. What what do I expect for being a recent college grad 1816 01:51:55,590 --> 01:51:58,170 I'd like to request a Karma shot for finishing school with a BA 1817 01:51:58,410 --> 01:52:02,010 in theater. And for an audition I have tomorrow for the national 1818 01:52:02,010 --> 01:52:06,450 tour of hair. Oh five book it free tickets for you guy. Hey, 1819 01:52:06,660 --> 01:52:09,390 I'd like to request a douchebag call out to the president of 1820 01:52:09,390 --> 01:52:15,690 Kean University. That's Dow would fall raw. He got the job 1821 01:52:15,690 --> 01:52:18,360 by lying on his resume about his education. 1822 01:52:19,830 --> 01:52:22,740 All right, well, let's get another one. Douche bag. And 1823 01:52:22,740 --> 01:52:26,040 here's your karma, man. Hope you get that gig in hair. You've got 1824 01:52:26,190 --> 01:52:28,800 karma. That's a good musical. 1825 01:52:29,550 --> 01:52:31,920 Yeah, it actually is a good mute. It's a little dated, but 1826 01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:35,850 it's still entertaining. ANDREW HARRISON and Gravenhurst Ontario 1827 01:52:35,850 --> 01:52:40,320 $50 Short Greg Brunson, Kenosha, Wisconsin, $50 and black night. 1828 01:52:40,830 --> 01:52:44,640 Robin Derridean in Hoboken, New Jersey $50. And we want to thank 1829 01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:48,300 them and everybody else who came in with lesser amounts for all 1830 01:52:48,300 --> 01:52:53,190 the for the help for this show. And I think we have another 1831 01:52:53,190 --> 01:52:54,090 note. Yeah, got 1832 01:52:54,090 --> 01:52:58,770 it here. This is from Ivan who has been donating $42 1833 01:52:58,770 --> 01:53:02,010 consistently, of course, a very magical number, the universe can 1834 01:53:02,010 --> 01:53:04,350 be explained with that number. Thank you for all the hard work. 1835 01:53:04,350 --> 01:53:06,960 Please accept my apology for having been a douchebag since 1836 01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:10,410 the beginning. Please take a moment to look at Fulton's 1837 01:53:10,410 --> 01:53:16,140 future.org and give a douchebag call out to the F p d for hiring 1838 01:53:16,170 --> 01:53:19,440 and protecting bad cops that are now on trial for the murder of 1839 01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:24,570 Kelly Thomas and many other horrific offenses. Not looking 1840 01:53:24,570 --> 01:53:25,260 to that one. 1841 01:53:25,530 --> 01:53:29,910 Fullerton Police Department yeah interesting. Now wasn't nice 1842 01:53:29,910 --> 01:53:33,300 town one time this subprime you get a bunch of bad cops in a 1843 01:53:33,330 --> 01:53:34,410 town and they can wreck it. 1844 01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:39,630 It happens. It happens. That's it. So definitely light. You 1845 01:53:39,630 --> 01:53:42,750 know, I guess what we're gonna this is why John loves 1846 01:53:42,990 --> 01:53:46,050 complaining a lot. Yeah, this is why John loves it, Miss Mickey 1847 01:53:46,050 --> 01:53:49,080 and I are gonna go out on the road. Because that keeps 1848 01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:53,970 everyone's attention. And, and keeps up attention is really 1849 01:53:53,970 --> 01:53:56,820 what it is because people start to wane a little bit in these in 1850 01:53:56,820 --> 01:53:59,850 these summer months. And which brings me to the fact that we 1851 01:53:59,850 --> 01:54:04,200 still do not have a trailer that the truck can pull. And we 1852 01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:09,030 desperately need one. renting one is an expensive proposition. 1853 01:54:10,410 --> 01:54:14,370 So it's, you know, we're talking six weeks now. Now, I'm sorry, 1854 01:54:14,370 --> 01:54:16,380 six weeks, we'll be you're getting married. And then we 1855 01:54:16,380 --> 01:54:18,420 come back. We want to leave right after that. And we want to 1856 01:54:18,420 --> 01:54:22,140 go up the Rockies up to Montana, you know, maybe we'll hit 1857 01:54:22,140 --> 01:54:27,960 Canadia and come back down again. So back in for the team. 1858 01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:32,880 Yeah. That'll be for the hot pockets 2009 tour. And for the 1859 01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:36,390 2010 tour. Of course, we'll do the entire west coast, which we 1860 01:54:36,390 --> 01:54:39,480 have not done yet. We'll go all the way up also hitting Canadia 1861 01:54:39,900 --> 01:54:43,080 but we need a trailer. And there's two ways to do it. You 1862 01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:46,860 know, you can do really if we really step up the donations we 1863 01:54:46,860 --> 01:54:52,110 can rent one. Rent is about 100 bucks a day. For the size that 1864 01:54:52,110 --> 01:54:55,950 we can pull, which I think 25 feet is about the max 1865 01:54:56,370 --> 01:55:00,780 particularly in the Rockies. 100 bucks a day is it not cheap, 1866 01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:06,090 particularly if you're we're talking three weeks here. And in 1867 01:55:06,090 --> 01:55:09,300 addition to that, of course, there's gas and hopefully no 1868 01:55:09,300 --> 01:55:13,710 repairs. I hope that truck will make it. And of course, we'll be 1869 01:55:13,710 --> 01:55:16,770 doing our shows from the road. So please, please, please, 1870 01:55:16,770 --> 01:55:20,640 please consider if you have a truck in Texas pretty much 1871 01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:23,460 anywhere in Texas. I'll go and pick it up. Austin would be 1872 01:55:23,460 --> 01:55:27,840 great Austin, Houston, San Antonio, Dallas. Be happy to go 1873 01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:32,040 pick it up. If not, then then we need to step up donation, 1874 01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:36,030 something's got to happen. And I know that there are producers 1875 01:55:36,030 --> 01:55:38,820 who want to see us so you can email everything to Mickey at 1876 01:55:38,820 --> 01:55:43,500 Curry dog cat comm M IC K y@curry.com. Because we'd love 1877 01:55:43,500 --> 01:55:46,410 to do this. And we'd love to see y'all see y'all out there on the 1878 01:55:46,410 --> 01:55:50,910 road. And we're gonna have to do it. Because that's it. You'll 1879 01:55:50,910 --> 01:55:55,140 learn this in radio from a very, you know, early in any radio 1880 01:55:55,140 --> 01:56:00,600 career, that the only way to keep your audience tuned in 1881 01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:05,160 during the summer months is to do appearances, appearances 1882 01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:08,070 summer jams, whatever it is, you've got to go to the people 1883 01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:10,380 so we're doing it I think we're one of the few podcasts that 1884 01:56:10,380 --> 01:56:11,310 actually do this. 1885 01:56:14,130 --> 01:56:15,930 I've never heard of anybody else doing it. 1886 01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:20,310 I hear a lot of people talking up a big storm saying they're 1887 01:56:20,310 --> 01:56:24,150 going to do it but actually doing it is a different story. 1888 01:56:25,380 --> 01:56:28,530 So you know where to help us out and if we could just even it out 1889 01:56:28,530 --> 01:56:32,070 a little bit we have great you know, Thursdays really terrible 1890 01:56:32,070 --> 01:56:35,730 Sundays maybe just wants to do the Thursday show. I don't know 1891 01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:38,910 we could do we could do a longer Thursday show but that of course 1892 01:56:38,910 --> 01:56:42,630 is up to you. And I'm we haven't quite hit the doldrums of 1893 01:56:42,630 --> 01:56:45,420 February yet when things got really bad but we're getting 1894 01:56:45,420 --> 01:56:49,530 closer so please consider us consider donating its value for 1895 01:56:49,530 --> 01:56:53,910 value. Don't buy that second drink in New York don't buy that 1896 01:56:53,940 --> 01:56:55,890 now that you're constrained and 1897 01:56:55,890 --> 01:56:58,560 you've already seen avenge yours so you don't need to just go to 1898 01:56:58,590 --> 01:57:03,870 any movies and like the club we had a couple of really creative 1899 01:57:03,870 --> 01:57:06,030 people that have done some interesting things with their 1900 01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:09,420 you know come up with ways to do to donations you know, they left 1901 01:57:09,420 --> 01:57:12,210 a girlfriend Yeah, send us the money from a date. 1902 01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:18,540 Yeah, yeah, that's a win. So we like to show I mean, that's a 1903 01:57:18,540 --> 01:57:20,310 double win as a win win. 1904 01:57:20,490 --> 01:57:21,540 Losing her anyway. 1905 01:57:22,530 --> 01:57:24,300 Alright, let me program your brain for a moment. 1906 01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:28,440 devora.org/and A 1907 01:57:36,270 --> 01:57:39,480 young cold your pain congratulates his newborn 1908 01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:42,480 daughter Elisa who apparently compete now that he's got drunk 1909 01:57:42,510 --> 01:57:45,270 keeping up the tradition there and get my nation to do chillin. 1910 01:57:45,690 --> 01:57:50,010 Sir Matt Nicole, happy birthday to Pete and Annie's son, newborn 1911 01:57:50,010 --> 01:57:56,010 son, Jack, Jack real. And of course we celebrate the birthday 1912 01:57:56,010 --> 01:57:58,920 of the Jamaican and Austin and we say happy birthday on behalf 1913 01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:04,080 of all your buddies here at the no agenda show. Of course no 1914 01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:08,340 knighthoods today that was not with that level is not to be 1915 01:58:08,340 --> 01:58:14,970 expected. You can help it and hope it we get 1916 01:58:14,970 --> 01:58:19,650 really short on 1212 12 nights and probably a few will come in 1917 01:58:19,650 --> 01:58:22,680 at the end. But yeah, it'd be nice if somebody came in a 1918 01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:23,340 little sooner. 1919 01:58:23,490 --> 01:58:28,650 Okay, drone nation. Couple of reports going on. Just stuff 1920 01:58:28,650 --> 01:58:34,680 that you don't hear another drone crashed. And this was in 1921 01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:40,590 Afghanistan. But of course the was controlled from Langley, the 1922 01:58:40,590 --> 01:58:48,690 Joint Base Langley, the had a loss of engine coolant. And I 1923 01:58:48,690 --> 01:58:51,990 would like to remind people that when these things start flying 1924 01:58:51,990 --> 01:58:54,750 over the United States, and there's a loss of engine 1925 01:58:54,750 --> 01:58:59,100 coolant, you know, that could basically be bad if you're 1926 01:58:59,100 --> 01:59:03,990 underneath this drone. And if now engine coolant doesn't 1927 01:59:03,990 --> 01:59:07,890 necessarily mean you have to crash. If you're manning the 1928 01:59:07,890 --> 01:59:13,020 aircraft, you can probably find a place to land and yeah, and I 1929 01:59:13,020 --> 01:59:18,300 think most airmen would at least choose a rough landing over 1930 01:59:18,330 --> 01:59:21,480 killing people down below and these drones, I think, what's 1931 01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:24,750 happening, no offense to the drone operators, but it's just 1932 01:59:24,750 --> 01:59:28,260 not the same thing. Yeah, you're sitting there on your joystick, 1933 01:59:28,260 --> 01:59:33,300 like, Oh, I'm losing control, oh, well, whatever. But if it's 1934 01:59:33,300 --> 01:59:36,360 your own ass on the line, you might actually try and get this 1935 01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:39,270 thing down a loss of engine coolant. So the engines 1936 01:59:39,270 --> 01:59:42,720 basically quit. It didn't explode, didn't lose contact 1937 01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:48,120 with the ground yet it crashed. And the Canadian Air Force has, 1938 01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:53,940 under some form of Freedom of Information Act request, has 1939 01:59:53,970 --> 01:59:59,340 released some of their data. They've already had 40 Let me 1940 01:59:59,340 --> 02:00:04,710 see what's the exact like numbers of 42 or 47 crashes 10 1941 02:00:04,710 --> 02:00:12,570 most recently for these things do crash yeah as of June 10 2011 1942 02:00:13,050 --> 02:00:17,850 Most accidents involved engine failure failure engine failure 1943 02:00:17,850 --> 02:00:21,690 is what as a pilot you train for you train for the helicopters 1944 02:00:21,690 --> 02:00:22,050 you train 1945 02:00:22,530 --> 02:00:25,410 so many crashes This is ridiculous. Are these engines 1946 02:00:25,410 --> 02:00:29,310 junk? What kind of money do we spend on these things that 1947 02:00:29,310 --> 02:00:32,310 they're the engines are crapping out left and right. Yeah, 1948 02:00:32,790 --> 02:00:36,720 that I can't answer. But I do know that engine failure does 1949 02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:43,080 not have to lead to a crash and I have no evidence of what 1950 02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:45,870 happened there's no reports I can read about the so called 1951 02:00:45,870 --> 02:00:51,270 crashes so I don't know if it you know, if it was a if on 1952 02:00:51,270 --> 02:00:53,910 landing it flipped over or whatever, but it seems like 1953 02:00:53,910 --> 02:00:56,220 these things just coming down and crashing and like boom, 1954 02:00:56,220 --> 02:01:01,680 okay. I think that these pilots, these these operators, maybe 1955 02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:05,580 just giving up on it, and yeah, maybe it's not so bad if it's in 1956 02:01:05,580 --> 02:01:09,180 the desert over Kandahar, which there's some people down below 1957 02:01:09,180 --> 02:01:13,740 there too, as well. But I'm I think we need to be very, very 1958 02:01:14,940 --> 02:01:18,270 careful about what we allow in our skies. Just saying that you 1959 02:01:18,270 --> 02:01:21,510 know, there's there's less than 500,000 licensed pilots in the 1960 02:01:21,510 --> 02:01:22,470 United States. 1961 02:01:23,700 --> 02:01:24,660 Sounds about right. 1962 02:01:25,410 --> 02:01:27,030 But with a number dwindling, 1963 02:01:27,330 --> 02:01:30,000 but as dwindling because it's just as like getting your own 1964 02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:35,430 steer is discouraged by the government. General Aviation is 1965 02:01:35,430 --> 02:01:37,770 bait being discouraged by the government this has been going 1966 02:01:37,770 --> 02:01:39,060 on for years you know this? 1967 02:01:39,120 --> 02:01:43,530 Yeah. No, of course I know it. They even want to implement $100 1968 02:01:43,530 --> 02:01:48,510 per flight fee for the Next Gen system which will put a lot of 1969 02:01:48,510 --> 02:01:52,380 pilots out of business and you can't go flying your aircraft 1970 02:01:52,410 --> 02:01:56,130 you got to pay 100 bucks for each time to take off just to 1971 02:01:56,130 --> 02:01:59,820 pay for the privilege of using the Next Gen system which is 1972 02:02:00,150 --> 02:02:04,800 supposed to be a public good I did like the petition on the 1973 02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:07,560 White House though. Did you see this petition? 1974 02:02:08,310 --> 02:02:09,720 I don't know which one is it's the do 1975 02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:13,920 not kill list. You can you should link in the show notes 1976 02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:16,890 for and for that any show notes.com You can put your name 1977 02:02:18,060 --> 02:02:21,840 as effective as the do not call this two calls. I got to call 1978 02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:25,530 them a few minutes ago. I'm on the do not call this and I still 1979 02:02:25,530 --> 02:02:28,620 get calls and that there's an article in The New York Times 1980 02:02:28,620 --> 02:02:31,500 about this saying it doesn't work. If everybody's bitching 1981 02:02:31,500 --> 02:02:34,050 and moaning I'm on the do not call us but they call anyway. 1982 02:02:35,190 --> 02:02:37,590 Nobody does anything about it. So the do not kill this will be 1983 02:02:37,590 --> 02:02:38,580 exactly the same. 1984 02:02:38,610 --> 02:02:40,830 It's cute, though on the White House. So it's very pleased 1985 02:02:40,830 --> 02:02:44,160 President Obama do not put me on your kill list. I'm a good guy. 1986 02:02:47,190 --> 02:02:47,970 It's pretty funny. 1987 02:02:48,509 --> 02:02:49,889 Yeah, I just didn't get it. 1988 02:02:49,980 --> 02:02:54,120 So the zombie meme continues to propagate. And now it's becoming 1989 02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:59,190 very, very obvious. Erin Burnett. Man, it's such a shame. 1990 02:02:59,190 --> 02:03:02,790 You know, she's so cute. She's on the of course, she's a 1991 02:03:02,790 --> 02:03:06,540 Council of Foreign Relations. She'll, and now you know, she 1992 02:03:06,540 --> 02:03:10,980 keeps doing this. It she's now she's overacting in her lead up 1993 02:03:10,980 --> 02:03:13,500 to the stories. I'm not gonna play the story obviously, that 1994 02:03:13,500 --> 02:03:16,860 comes out of a little cross talk with Anderson Cooper, and just 1995 02:03:16,860 --> 02:03:18,540 listen to how she's overacting. 1996 02:03:19,019 --> 02:03:21,449 We're learning more tonight about the man who was killed by 1997 02:03:21,449 --> 02:03:25,109 Florida police as he was chewing off another man's face. Rudy, 1998 02:03:25,109 --> 02:03:27,509 Eugene's mother and girlfriend now speaking out about an 1999 02:03:27,509 --> 02:03:30,749 incident so gruesome. That you know as we've been telling you 2000 02:03:30,749 --> 02:03:33,389 it's the pictures are disturbing. It was It was awful. 2001 02:03:33,389 --> 02:03:35,729 There were people who apparently were even biking by and saw this 2002 02:03:35,729 --> 02:03:37,709 absolutely horrific scene. 2003 02:03:37,830 --> 02:03:42,750 So we have seen zero pictures by the way. Have you seen guys with 2004 02:03:42,810 --> 02:03:45,960 with his face chewed off? Have you seen this guy eating his 2005 02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:48,000 flesh? No, you haven't seen any of that? 2006 02:03:48,570 --> 02:03:51,360 There was one picture of the naked guy leaning over somebody. 2007 02:03:51,450 --> 02:03:55,440 Yeah, but everything's blurred out. Yeah. So 2008 02:03:55,500 --> 02:03:58,800 really like my no agenda. T shirt, but he's gonna 2009 02:03:59,070 --> 02:04:02,700 know so we have not seen this. She keeps saying horrific. It's 2010 02:04:02,700 --> 02:04:06,300 horrible. Like it's the worst thing you could ever imagine 2011 02:04:06,300 --> 02:04:07,410 zombie one 2012 02:04:07,410 --> 02:04:10,920 year old Eugene was described to be in a zombie like state. When 2013 02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:13,800 he was caught by police in Miami on Saturday. No one 2014 02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:16,200 described him as in a zombie like state that 2015 02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:19,080 didn't you run this clip last week that there's no this she 2016 02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:19,680 keeps doing 2017 02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:24,210 this. Every single show she does a zombie segment. Every single 2018 02:04:24,210 --> 02:04:28,560 show and this is in relation to the CDC. The Centers for Disease 2019 02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:32,370 Control Hello. We know the guys that are listening. We know they 2020 02:04:32,370 --> 02:04:36,780 listen. We've one of them is a knight who work at the CDC. It's 2021 02:04:36,780 --> 02:04:42,360 true. The CDC and comes out and says there's absolutely no proof 2022 02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:47,820 that zombies exist. Oh, thanks, CDC. Here's a report from New 2023 02:04:47,820 --> 02:04:50,940 York 1010 wins. I love how this is propagating. 2024 02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:55,800 Javon Kendrick just doesn't get it. He can't imagine what could 2025 02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:59,970 possess the CDC of federal agency to come out and declare 2026 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,390 There are no zombies who have believed in his own death. I 2027 02:05:03,390 --> 02:05:05,790 don't know like the Feds would have to tell you for you to 2028 02:05:05,790 --> 02:05:08,340 believe that there's zombies I you know, that's common. This is 2029 02:05:08,340 --> 02:05:12,270 Javon meet Michelle. I feel like this CDC they know something's 2030 02:05:12,270 --> 02:05:14,760 going on. So they're trying to cover it up. So no one won't 2031 02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:18,840 panic. Michelle also believes in vampires. It's just one big 2032 02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:21,690 conspiracy, how they got movies like that with the government. 2033 02:05:21,690 --> 02:05:24,900 They make potions and stuff in and Oh, perhaps she seen 2034 02:05:24,930 --> 02:05:28,380 what I'm with Michelle, anecdotes, you know, the 2035 02:05:28,380 --> 02:05:31,680 government didn't make potions and stuff. I wouldn't Michelle I 2036 02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:34,050 and why would you make such a big deal about it. And of 2037 02:05:34,050 --> 02:05:38,010 course, the problem here are really the setup because we know 2038 02:05:38,010 --> 02:05:41,910 that Brad Pitt's movie is coming out World War Z is that the CDC 2039 02:05:41,910 --> 02:05:48,300 came out a few months ago with a zombie preparedness entire 2040 02:05:48,300 --> 02:05:53,370 webpage that preparing for the zombie apocalypse. And I want 2041 02:05:53,370 --> 02:05:58,470 you to listen to the spokes haul for the CDC. Talking about now 2042 02:05:58,470 --> 02:06:01,230 this was one of those satellite things where you know, he just 2043 02:06:01,230 --> 02:06:04,620 sitting in a room with with a CDC logo on a monitor in the 2044 02:06:04,620 --> 02:06:07,830 background. And he's answering questions via remote and 2045 02:06:07,830 --> 02:06:11,370 everyone gets the same video. Listen to how he's talking and 2046 02:06:11,370 --> 02:06:13,920 tell me Well, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give it away. Just 2047 02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:14,820 listen, we were coming 2048 02:06:14,820 --> 02:06:18,150 up on hurricane season. And we were really looking for a novel 2049 02:06:18,150 --> 02:06:21,300 and innovative way to engage the American public in their own 2050 02:06:21,300 --> 02:06:24,690 preparedness. And we had recognized that during the 2051 02:06:24,690 --> 02:06:29,340 recent tragedy in Japan, on our Twitter feed, there was a lot of 2052 02:06:29,340 --> 02:06:32,190 buzz when people had mentioned zombie. So when my 2053 02:06:32,190 --> 02:06:35,640 communications director came to me and said, let's think about 2054 02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:36,840 using Do you hear it? 2055 02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:43,200 Do you hear what do you hear? Listen to how He breeds 2056 02:06:43,380 --> 02:06:46,320 zombies as a way to get people to engage in personal 2057 02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:50,040 preparedness. I said absolutely. Let's go for it. established a 2058 02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:53,520 zombie Task Force. And then using existing resources and 2059 02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:56,790 social media we put together this campaign. Do you didn't 2060 02:06:56,790 --> 02:06:58,110 hear? No, I 2061 02:06:58,110 --> 02:06:59,790 don't hear anything. It's just a guy talking. 2062 02:06:59,850 --> 02:07:03,960 Listen to how we breathe. Listen again. Breathing Yes, listen 2063 02:07:04,020 --> 02:07:08,670 has absolutely been excellent, much more than we had ever 2064 02:07:08,670 --> 02:07:13,200 expected. So usually, I get about 3000 odd people that 2065 02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:19,590 examine the blog that I put together. The guy uses r&b. 2066 02:07:20,310 --> 02:07:23,340 He's really like this. This case 2067 02:07:23,340 --> 02:07:26,520 we've got over when we were so far I've had over about 2 2068 02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:27,480 million hits. 2069 02:07:30,060 --> 02:07:34,830 On emphysema or some zombie sounds terrible. Well, let me 2070 02:07:34,830 --> 02:07:41,490 save the show with this clip. Ready? Yeah. Okay, so I'm just 2071 02:07:41,490 --> 02:07:46,110 delight clip I've been saving. So I'm watching it that just 2072 02:07:46,110 --> 02:07:49,110 comes right out of it. There's a bunch of Trekkie guys trekkers 2073 02:07:49,110 --> 02:07:53,370 in Star Trek guys talking about the the parties, they do a party 2074 02:07:53,370 --> 02:07:54,960 every year, and it's getting bigger and bigger and more 2075 02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:58,290 successful. And this is what you can expect if you ever go to one 2076 02:07:58,290 --> 02:07:59,700 of these things. I mean, we've been having this 2077 02:07:59,700 --> 02:08:03,270 party now for years. It seems like every year it gets to be a 2078 02:08:03,270 --> 02:08:06,930 little bit more fun. Couple more people come and you know it 2079 02:08:06,930 --> 02:08:11,880 started off small now the younger people are coming this 2080 02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:13,740 year we had a girl come and everything 2081 02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,110 girl actually came to our party. 2082 02:08:26,970 --> 02:08:28,140 That is pathetic. 2083 02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:36,420 I like that. My good. Good one. One of our producers pointed 2084 02:08:36,420 --> 02:08:39,210 something out about Syria. You know, we you know, oh, by the 2085 02:08:39,210 --> 02:08:43,740 way, before you go into that, oh, New York Times. No. 2086 02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:47,640 We talked about in the last show, there was something that 2087 02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:50,580 was going to change it was so what was the real background? I 2088 02:08:50,580 --> 02:08:54,150 said pipes. Yeah, no pipe memory that you know what the thing 2089 02:08:54,150 --> 02:08:58,080 might actually be with the Russians. So make him with this 2090 02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:04,980 stat just threw it out. Syria accounts for 10% of all Russian 2091 02:09:04,980 --> 02:09:09,660 arms sales. And one of the things that's that we've not 2092 02:09:09,660 --> 02:09:12,330 really done, we go into the oil companies, we go into the 2093 02:09:12,330 --> 02:09:15,780 pipeline committee, but we have kind of left the arms dealers 2094 02:09:15,780 --> 02:09:19,560 out of the equation when we come to this kind of international 2095 02:09:19,560 --> 02:09:23,730 intrigue. 10% of all Russian arm sales 2096 02:09:23,970 --> 02:09:26,700 goes into Syria. Yeah, well, there's not there's, there's 2097 02:09:26,730 --> 02:09:31,140 okay, this this fits in nicely. So we know they have that the 2098 02:09:31,140 --> 02:09:34,080 port their TARDIS is the port the naval base. 2099 02:09:34,110 --> 02:09:37,020 Yeah, they need a big base there so they can bring the arms Ah, 2100 02:09:37,020 --> 02:09:37,380 not 2101 02:09:37,380 --> 02:09:44,460 here it is here. Here's the here's what I got. 2008 that's 2102 02:09:44,460 --> 02:09:50,040 when we had the Oceti a war. The Russians were planning to deploy 2103 02:09:50,070 --> 02:09:53,790 out to the US of course deployed the missile defense shield in 2104 02:09:53,790 --> 02:09:59,400 Poland. President Assad agreed to convert the port into a 2105 02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:03,360 permanent Middle East base for Russia's nuclear armed warships. 2106 02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:06,750 And since 2009, they've been renovating the naval base, 2107 02:10:07,020 --> 02:10:10,860 dredging the port to allow access for the larger naval 2108 02:10:10,860 --> 02:10:14,610 vessels vessels so they can have their own nuclear armament 2109 02:10:14,610 --> 02:10:18,600 shield. This now makes sense with Iron Dome and all that 2110 02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:23,190 crap. So not only do we not want the Russians, we want to take 2111 02:10:23,190 --> 02:10:26,520 away their arm sales business. We don't want them deploying a 2112 02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:29,490 missile shield right there. Right. Right. Right up from 2113 02:10:29,490 --> 02:10:35,760 Israel. Started Well, we know from the last show that this is 2114 02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:39,030 about the Russians. I mean, that's been confirmed. Yeah, we 2115 02:10:39,030 --> 02:10:41,490 already knew it was but now it's starting to come together. This 2116 02:10:41,490 --> 02:10:42,720 is screw the rooskies 2117 02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:50,250 we are we want something from them. Yeah. And we we did a 2118 02:10:50,250 --> 02:10:53,820 deal. This whole thing was going along fine when the Exxon guys 2119 02:10:53,820 --> 02:10:57,780 did a deal with the with Putin. And then the next thing you 2120 02:10:57,780 --> 02:11:01,200 know, and Putin apparently is the arms dealer. The next thing 2121 02:11:01,200 --> 02:11:04,380 you know, it goes south. And now we got this conflagration that's 2122 02:11:04,380 --> 02:11:06,570 just like completely out of control. We don't know. You 2123 02:11:06,570 --> 02:11:10,860 know, we can't really deconstruct it. It's like, the 2124 02:11:10,860 --> 02:11:13,770 Russians have got something to do with it, obviously. But we 2125 02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:15,150 think we keep digging. 2126 02:11:17,070 --> 02:11:20,250 CNN has been, you know, CNN is great to watch because no one 2127 02:11:20,250 --> 02:11:23,910 else watches it. So everything I play from CNN is new and fresh. 2128 02:11:24,690 --> 02:11:28,800 But it's also of course, because they are just like ABC. They're 2129 02:11:28,860 --> 02:11:34,020 basically part of the Ministry of Truth. So throughout all of 2130 02:11:34,020 --> 02:11:38,040 the bad stuff that was happening in Egypt, we had riots and all 2131 02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:40,800 kinds of stuff going on not a peep out of no Anderson Cooper 2132 02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:44,820 there and WR square. And then all of a sudden what are we see 2133 02:11:44,850 --> 02:11:47,700 news tonight Hosni Mubarak is going to die in prison. That is 2134 02:11:47,700 --> 02:11:51,300 a judgment handed to him today in Cairo. Life in prison, a 2135 02:11:51,300 --> 02:11:54,330 civilian court holding the 84 year old former Egyptian 2136 02:11:54,330 --> 02:11:58,110 president responsible for the deaths of 840 people during the 2137 02:11:58,110 --> 02:12:01,320 historic revolution that forced him out of office. The verdict? 2138 02:12:01,530 --> 02:12:02,910 Not terribly surprising, though, 2139 02:12:02,940 --> 02:12:07,380 I want you to take a look at the scene right now. My pictures are 2140 02:12:07,380 --> 02:12:12,000 the biggest Arab Spring revolution was born. 11pm and 2141 02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:16,590 Turkey square is packed with Egyptians both overjoyed and 2142 02:12:16,590 --> 02:12:18,240 furious. You can see the crowds there. 2143 02:12:18,270 --> 02:12:23,910 Yeah, so we're live back on to square now. But this is a farce. 2144 02:12:25,290 --> 02:12:29,520 If you look at the elections, did you see the percentage of 2145 02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:35,400 people who voted in Egypt for the first run off? What was it? 2146 02:12:35,430 --> 02:12:36,840 41%? 2147 02:12:37,470 --> 02:12:39,120 So it sounds like one of our elections? 2148 02:12:39,150 --> 02:12:41,340 Yes. So it's not there was no revolution. There's not let 2149 02:12:41,340 --> 02:12:44,490 people on like Yeah, great. Now they're gonna they're gonna just 2150 02:12:44,490 --> 02:12:49,170 vote in a new shield a new CIA shill. And I've been reading up 2151 02:12:49,170 --> 02:12:54,240 on on Egypt and that a lot of Egyptians who don't who are not 2152 02:12:54,240 --> 02:12:58,830 on TV or squares, 80 million Egyptians I might point out who 2153 02:12:58,830 --> 02:13:01,680 were saying, Hey, hold on a second. This is bullcrap. You're 2154 02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:05,430 just putting in a new shill economically. I'm looking at the 2155 02:13:05,430 --> 02:13:12,780 Financial Times here there was only 2% of Egyptians below the 2156 02:13:12,780 --> 02:13:18,090 poverty line. This guy actually from the way economically from 2157 02:13:18,090 --> 02:13:23,040 the way I see it did a lot of good for the country. 2158 02:13:25,410 --> 02:13:28,620 Well, you'd never know it or even consider that as a 2159 02:13:28,620 --> 02:13:33,360 possibility if you follow any of the story. So he's on the front 2160 02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:38,730 page of The New York Times with bars crossed them he's wearing 2161 02:13:38,730 --> 02:13:40,260 sunglasses for some reason. 2162 02:13:41,130 --> 02:13:42,360 I thought that was pretty funny. 2163 02:13:43,440 --> 02:13:47,970 sunglasses and a watch Yeah. And kind of an expensive and look 2164 02:13:47,970 --> 02:13:49,260 like prison garb 2165 02:13:50,610 --> 02:13:57,510 you know the Do you remember the really pretty girl the asthma? 2166 02:13:58,050 --> 02:14:05,520 My foods she was one of the techno experts on the ground. 2167 02:14:06,030 --> 02:14:08,880 She would to be interviewed really really pretty Egyptian 2168 02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:13,140 girl spoke really good English. eglee Yeah, yeah. So you know 2169 02:14:13,140 --> 02:14:16,740 where she showed up the other day? Know where with with 2170 02:14:16,740 --> 02:14:19,650 Lucifer Clinton at the State Department with a whole bunch of 2171 02:14:19,650 --> 02:14:23,520 techno experts. She's there with like, guys from Tunisia from 2172 02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:27,510 Libya. And she's right there saying and Lucifer thank and I'm 2173 02:14:27,510 --> 02:14:33,690 clippity clop so obvious, but you know what we're fed is we're 2174 02:14:33,690 --> 02:14:39,900 fed Oh, this is great. You know, another dictator toppled? I 2175 02:14:39,900 --> 02:14:41,370 don't think we can fight it anymore. 2176 02:14:44,130 --> 02:14:45,990 Who said that we could fight it in the first place? 2177 02:14:46,050 --> 02:14:47,460 No, I had some ideal. 2178 02:14:48,630 --> 02:14:51,180 Apparently. I was not me. 2179 02:14:51,210 --> 02:14:53,490 How stupid of me. Yeah, I know. I was stupid. 2180 02:14:54,330 --> 02:15:01,410 So another aspect of the EU crisis I get one last clip was 2181 02:15:01,410 --> 02:15:04,650 short on clips today. I didn't think there was that much that 2182 02:15:04,650 --> 02:15:08,820 went on since Thursday. So I'm Krugman, a Krugman or whatever 2183 02:15:08,820 --> 02:15:12,930 you want to say. This is a good one to foreboding of war. This 2184 02:15:12,930 --> 02:15:17,220 was another British. I think this is unjust news news day. 2185 02:15:17,850 --> 02:15:23,400 And I thought this was a little, little little hint about what 2186 02:15:23,430 --> 02:15:28,710 things to come. Is that my cue? Yeah, it was. A whole 2187 02:15:28,830 --> 02:15:32,970 austerity project is seen a disorderly breakup of the euro 2188 02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:36,210 is so unthinkable that economists find it hard to 2189 02:15:36,210 --> 02:15:39,540 model, but at least they are thinking about it. The problem 2190 02:15:39,540 --> 02:15:42,960 is for the centrist politicians and civil servants who run 2191 02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:45,780 Europe, they don't even want to think about it. And when you 2192 02:15:45,780 --> 02:15:49,080 look at what's happening in Greece, on the streets, you can 2193 02:15:49,080 --> 02:15:52,950 see why the old split between left and right is still there 2194 02:15:52,950 --> 02:15:55,950 underneath. It's still simmers, there's still a lot of people 2195 02:15:55,950 --> 02:15:57,930 have a sense of their family histories of the political 2196 02:15:57,930 --> 02:16:00,330 history of the country. So your grandfather killed my 2197 02:16:00,330 --> 02:16:03,630 grandfather. Yes, your dad could come back. Your grandfather 2198 02:16:03,630 --> 02:16:05,730 killed my grandfather. It's already coming back. 2199 02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:09,990 Your grandfather took my bike. 2200 02:16:10,800 --> 02:16:15,990 So it will Yeah. So this is like a setup seems to me just the 2201 02:16:15,990 --> 02:16:21,600 story alone. All Hell's gonna break loose is it'd be a This 2202 02:16:21,600 --> 02:16:23,940 can't be good for the stock market. 2203 02:16:25,470 --> 02:16:29,100 Yeah, no, I really care. The I looked at the stock market for 2204 02:16:29,100 --> 02:16:33,450 two things. By the way, nice to see the gold popped up. 50 bucks 2205 02:16:33,450 --> 02:16:35,160 in one day. Oh, that was for 2206 02:16:35,160 --> 02:16:38,910 damn good reason. Well, yeah, these jobless numbers and these 2207 02:16:38,940 --> 02:16:41,460 guys in the toilet. Yeah. Well, so you 2208 02:16:41,459 --> 02:16:45,209 basically prove my point. That when everything comes crashing 2209 02:16:45,209 --> 02:16:46,919 down, people will run to gold. 2210 02:16:50,280 --> 02:16:54,690 They tend to Yes. Yeah. Okay, good. So superstitious people 2211 02:16:54,690 --> 02:16:55,260 they are. 2212 02:16:57,780 --> 02:17:00,180 It's okay, John, because you could always get a sandwich at 2213 02:17:00,180 --> 02:17:01,380 my house here in Austin, 2214 02:17:01,889 --> 02:17:05,849 and get a sandwich I buy. I buy my beef on the hoof. 2215 02:17:07,620 --> 02:17:10,740 Yeah, and the other thing I look at is just with glee, just with 2216 02:17:10,740 --> 02:17:16,380 glee, as the, as the proof that advertising on the Internet is a 2217 02:17:16,380 --> 02:17:22,500 farce. As Facebook continues to crash, and, and, and they went 2218 02:17:22,500 --> 02:17:27,750 down. It just made me laugh. Facebook went down. Remember the 2219 02:17:27,750 --> 02:17:32,340 if you saw the movie Zuk Zuk, saying the Facebook never goes 2220 02:17:32,340 --> 02:17:36,990 down. The Facebook never goes down. Let me explain something 2221 02:17:36,990 --> 02:17:39,870 about the Macan. I've been wanting to do this. Let 2222 02:17:39,870 --> 02:17:43,620 mechanics of advertising on the Internet, why it doesn't work. 2223 02:17:43,950 --> 02:17:47,970 It's about supply and demand and inventory. When you have a 2224 02:17:47,970 --> 02:17:52,320 television program, there is a limited supply of time, it's a 2225 02:17:52,320 --> 02:17:55,170 finite defined amount of time that can be used for 2226 02:17:55,170 --> 02:17:58,470 advertising. Now, they can expand that but you run into all 2227 02:17:58,470 --> 02:18:00,660 kinds of problems, because then you have no program left, and 2228 02:18:00,660 --> 02:18:03,960 we're approaching that tipping point. But there's only one 2229 02:18:03,960 --> 02:18:08,100 drink manufacturer that can have its cup on you know, it's called 2230 02:18:08,100 --> 02:18:12,600 category exclusivity, that can have its cup on the judge's 2231 02:18:12,600 --> 02:18:17,040 tables at an American Idol. And that's Coca Cola. And so you 2232 02:18:17,100 --> 02:18:20,130 know, that's been sold, and there's a bidding war going on 2233 02:18:20,130 --> 02:18:22,710 for that. And, you know, Coke wants to do it. And they 2234 02:18:22,710 --> 02:18:26,370 sponsored basically the whole program. And, you know, the the 2235 02:18:26,400 --> 02:18:29,850 contestants sign away their lives do commercials, and they 2236 02:18:29,850 --> 02:18:32,850 actually air these commercials in the show. But it's finite, 2237 02:18:32,850 --> 02:18:36,000 it's limited. There's only so much. And that's what that's why 2238 02:18:36,000 --> 02:18:39,330 there's supply, which is limited and demand. And when you have 2239 02:18:39,330 --> 02:18:44,010 some numbers, which are good numbers, and 10 20 million, then 2240 02:18:44,040 --> 02:18:47,850 you're going to be able to set a higher price. When you have the 2241 02:18:47,880 --> 02:18:52,890 internet, the inventory is unlimited. So the more people 2242 02:18:52,890 --> 02:18:58,620 you have, who are getting an ad, the lower the price is going to 2243 02:18:58,620 --> 02:19:02,220 be so you may be able to sell more ads, but the price is going 2244 02:19:02,220 --> 02:19:05,760 to be driven down unless you can argue it any other way. John, 2245 02:19:06,120 --> 02:19:09,570 the market of internet advertising, really, when it 2246 02:19:09,570 --> 02:19:12,960 comes to display has no future. 2247 02:19:15,870 --> 02:19:22,290 Well, I think it has a future. It's just a grim future. Well, I 2248 02:19:22,290 --> 02:19:24,780 don't think ads are going to disappear from the internet. And 2249 02:19:24,780 --> 02:19:28,260 I think they're still have to go to ad tech, which is that people 2250 02:19:28,260 --> 02:19:31,440 want to get follow this in any real way and actually tried to 2251 02:19:31,440 --> 02:19:35,280 learn something. I would recommend a finding the ad tech 2252 02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:39,930 main site. And then every time they do one of these shows, they 2253 02:19:39,930 --> 02:19:41,970 have all over the world. They have one in San Francisco, they 2254 02:19:41,970 --> 02:19:44,610 have one in New York, they got one in Hong Kong, we got them 2255 02:19:44,610 --> 02:19:49,170 all over the place. Go to the site and then try to find the 2256 02:19:49,230 --> 02:19:53,970 cache of podcasts. Every speech that's given at ad tech is 2257 02:19:53,970 --> 02:19:57,900 available as a one hour download. And you can pick and 2258 02:19:57,900 --> 02:19:59,970 choose what you want to listen to and you can listen to it 2259 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,670 These guys, and you'll learn quite a bit about the 2260 02:20:02,670 --> 02:20:06,210 advertising game as it exists today because it changes, like, 2261 02:20:06,450 --> 02:20:09,810 constantly because of what Adam just described it, everyone's 2262 02:20:09,810 --> 02:20:12,270 aware of this problem, and they're always trying to adjust 2263 02:20:12,270 --> 02:20:16,560 and fix it. And if you listen to these, these podcasts or these 2264 02:20:16,650 --> 02:20:20,550 downloads of the lectures that you'd have to pay to listen to, 2265 02:20:20,550 --> 02:20:24,900 if you were there, you can kind of catch what they're up to, in 2266 02:20:24,900 --> 02:20:27,300 advance of them actually doing it's actually quite educational 2267 02:20:27,300 --> 02:20:28,320 for just about anybody. 2268 02:20:28,980 --> 02:20:32,400 And so what do you what have you deduced from following this? 2269 02:20:33,000 --> 02:20:38,670 Your basic premises Correct. Video seems to be very popular 2270 02:20:38,670 --> 02:20:41,250 right now. And it seems to have been for a while and it's but 2271 02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:45,120 video is all the reason that you see all these five minutes shows 2272 02:20:45,120 --> 02:20:47,700 and these eight minute shows and all this because nobody can, 2273 02:20:47,850 --> 02:20:52,530 they've never been able to monetize in its western and 2274 02:20:52,530 --> 02:20:55,410 Steve Chu and C two and C two or whatever it's called, 2275 02:20:55,530 --> 02:21:00,330 interspersed in or interstitial interstitial. They've never been 2276 02:21:00,330 --> 02:21:03,060 able to monetize the interstitial ads, because they 2277 02:21:03,060 --> 02:21:05,700 don't know if anybody's seeing um, so they can just so there's 2278 02:21:05,700 --> 02:21:08,730 pre roll, and they figure somebody sees that that's what 2279 02:21:08,730 --> 02:21:10,980 you're bitching about constantly. Because every time 2280 02:21:10,980 --> 02:21:13,770 you click on something, there's a stupid free roll. I don't say 2281 02:21:13,770 --> 02:21:15,780 they don't even know if that's effective. That's just a 2282 02:21:15,780 --> 02:21:19,620 crapshoot. They're, they're, they're experimenting. It's not 2283 02:21:19,680 --> 02:21:21,060 a done deal one way or the other. 2284 02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:26,190 Right. But I think the, the issue of scarcity, the lack of 2285 02:21:26,190 --> 02:21:31,050 scarcity on the internet drives the price down. So yes, Facebook 2286 02:21:31,050 --> 02:21:35,580 can have 900 million people. But the marketplace is just saying, 2287 02:21:35,580 --> 02:21:38,550 Okay, that's great. You know, I'll take I'll take 1000 for a 2288 02:21:38,550 --> 02:21:42,420 penny. Because you got 900 Anyway, I am. You know, 2289 02:21:42,420 --> 02:21:45,990 whatever. There's enough of it. It's just a natural occurrence. 2290 02:21:45,990 --> 02:21:49,530 So it just they there's just no way to grow. And yeah, of 2291 02:21:49,530 --> 02:21:51,840 course, there'll be advertising on the Internet. Of course, 2292 02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:55,530 there will be but it's, I was I was sitting at Halcyon. 2293 02:21:56,400 --> 02:21:59,520 Yesterday after the market house yacht. It's a great little bar 2294 02:21:59,520 --> 02:22:05,550 here on Fourth Street and I think it was Guadalupe and you 2295 02:22:05,550 --> 02:22:08,310 can sit outside and their motto is everything that's bad for 2296 02:22:08,310 --> 02:22:11,640 you. alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, and so basically can 2297 02:22:11,640 --> 02:22:15,060 sit outside smoke, drink coffee, drink Bottomless mimosas, they 2298 02:22:15,060 --> 02:22:19,140 got food, it's fantastic. And I hear some douche, pitching some 2299 02:22:19,140 --> 02:22:23,700 other guy about a website for tattoo artists. And the venture 2300 02:22:23,700 --> 02:22:26,670 is like so how you gonna monetize this? Oh, advertising? 2301 02:22:26,700 --> 02:22:29,790 Oh, yeah, that's great. God 2302 02:22:31,950 --> 02:22:35,940 turn around and tell him? No, in the lecture. 2303 02:22:35,970 --> 02:22:39,480 No, it was too entertaining. Well, 2304 02:22:39,480 --> 02:22:43,500 this happened in the late 1999 2000 When the whole.com 2305 02:22:43,500 --> 02:22:46,350 thing crashed. These guys were singing the same song about 2306 02:22:46,350 --> 02:22:51,720 advertising. And it's just, you know, it's just there's no, just 2307 02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:54,750 look at Flickr. I mean, they're they have a bunch of eyeballs 2308 02:22:54,750 --> 02:22:57,360 and never been able to monetize that site. Instagram is never 2309 02:22:57,360 --> 02:23:01,470 gonna make any money, except for selling it to some sucker. I'm 2310 02:23:02,130 --> 02:23:05,670 sorry. And I agree. I think Facebook is like that's a that 2311 02:23:05,670 --> 02:23:08,850 is the worst mark is not even. You can make some money if you 2312 02:23:08,850 --> 02:23:14,220 have a very specialized targeted site that's about, you know, the 2313 02:23:14,220 --> 02:23:17,880 nut and bolt business and machine tools. You say have a 2314 02:23:17,880 --> 02:23:20,100 machine tool site and is a very exclusive and you have 2315 02:23:20,100 --> 02:23:24,060 subscribers. People will pay for that. And they'll pay for that. 2316 02:23:24,060 --> 02:23:28,650 And then you could put ads on there and get top dollar. But 2317 02:23:28,650 --> 02:23:31,830 that is short of that. Just having a general public of a 2318 02:23:31,830 --> 02:23:35,760 bunch of douche bags of the whole 99 million people in 2319 02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:38,370 China. We were willing to average What are you going to 2320 02:23:38,370 --> 02:23:40,920 advertise for the Chinese? They're done to Facebook. It 2321 02:23:40,920 --> 02:23:43,350 doesn't make any sense. Do so disaster. 2322 02:23:43,830 --> 02:23:46,800 Wait a minute, let me see that's available hold on before the 2323 02:23:48,180 --> 02:23:53,040 douche book on douche book.com Let me see if I can read yours 2324 02:23:53,040 --> 02:23:57,480 to that real quick. Would that be great? If there was a douche 2325 02:23:57,480 --> 02:24:02,520 book God come and see you to to come on. Come on. Come on. Come 2326 02:24:02,520 --> 02:24:05,100 on. Come on. Ah, crap. Someone already has it. 2327 02:24:05,130 --> 02:24:06,780 Somebody has douche book douche book. 2328 02:24:07,230 --> 02:24:10,620 Well, I Are you on twit today? Yes, I am. Oh, good. I've 2329 02:24:10,620 --> 02:24:14,730 programmed you. I've been successful. Now. They're gonna 2330 02:24:14,730 --> 02:24:17,640 start talking about Facebook because that's what they do. And 2331 02:24:17,640 --> 02:24:21,000 you can be like, Man, I was crap and advertising don't work. And 2332 02:24:21,300 --> 02:24:23,580 you're all set. You're good to go. Yeah, 2333 02:24:23,610 --> 02:24:25,680 thanks, your boss, your prep. 2334 02:24:25,890 --> 02:24:30,330 I will say I'm working on a project. It'll be a non money 2335 02:24:30,330 --> 02:24:33,450 making project because the no money on it. What else is new? 2336 02:24:33,720 --> 02:24:40,410 There's no par for my career. There's no money in it. But I 2337 02:24:40,410 --> 02:24:44,670 need some help from any of our technical experts out there, our 2338 02:24:44,670 --> 02:24:48,120 SIS admins, but really developers, if you can develop a 2339 02:24:48,120 --> 02:24:55,740 patchy and particularly in Apache modules and or PHP, I've 2340 02:24:55,740 --> 02:24:59,970 got I think a really fun project and would take probably one one 2341 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:03,210 engineer, one developer could work with me. And it would be, I 2342 02:25:03,210 --> 02:25:06,360 think, something outstanding that could really catch fire. No 2343 02:25:06,360 --> 02:25:10,110 one would own it, it'd be a lot of fun. And as I said, there's 2344 02:25:10,140 --> 02:25:13,500 there's no money in it. And I got no money to pay you, as we 2345 02:25:13,500 --> 02:25:16,590 live on the value for value concept here, which is why we 2346 02:25:16,590 --> 02:25:21,060 don't have ads, because we can make a living of just getting by 2347 02:25:21,090 --> 02:25:26,370 by you helping us. Donating to the show, we can't have ads, 2348 02:25:26,370 --> 02:25:28,620 because we could we'd be restricted. This is another 2349 02:25:28,620 --> 02:25:31,140 problem with advertising that we can't talk about the things we 2350 02:25:31,140 --> 02:25:34,740 want to talk about. So consider us. Yeah, cuz 2351 02:25:34,740 --> 02:25:37,500 we basically, you put a bunch of effort into getting an 2352 02:25:37,500 --> 02:25:41,070 advertiser and you could you could Joel them, and you groom 2353 02:25:41,070 --> 02:25:43,350 them and then do your advertising, then you say one 2354 02:25:43,350 --> 02:25:46,920 thing, and somebody calls the area, these guys are a couple 2355 02:25:46,920 --> 02:25:49,860 that net because you shouldn't be advertising with them, and 2356 02:25:49,860 --> 02:25:53,130 they pull the ad immediately. Now, it takes nothing to get 2357 02:25:53,550 --> 02:25:57,090 these average, these advertisers are soliciting me Miche. They're 2358 02:25:57,090 --> 02:26:00,960 skittish. They're really, you know, and you had to deal with 2359 02:26:00,960 --> 02:26:01,920 them. I rarely 2360 02:26:02,340 --> 02:26:04,980 hear here's an experiment just to prove that the theory is 2361 02:26:04,980 --> 02:26:08,130 true. When you're on to it today. Say man Ford really 2362 02:26:08,130 --> 02:26:11,310 sucks. Give that a try. Well, yeah, 2363 02:26:11,640 --> 02:26:14,730 yeah. Yeah, I'll be doing that. Yeah, keep an ear tuned in. 2364 02:26:16,860 --> 02:26:19,140 Just to prove the point, John, is just to prove the point. 2365 02:26:19,560 --> 02:26:26,520 Yeah. I think the points well, proven. Experiment is necessary. 2366 02:26:26,550 --> 02:26:27,060 All right. 2367 02:26:27,360 --> 02:26:30,120 Thanks all of our artists who provide us outstanding art and 2368 02:26:30,120 --> 02:26:33,630 no agenda, art generator.com. That's where you can upload your 2369 02:26:33,630 --> 02:26:36,180 art. Don't be discouraged if it's not us because we 2370 02:26:36,180 --> 02:26:40,110 frequently go back and pick up pieces in the newsletter to get 2371 02:26:40,110 --> 02:26:42,180 us in the newsletter. You'll have another one on Wednesday, 2372 02:26:42,180 --> 02:26:45,300 another one of John C. Dvorak have standing Tomes. And of 2373 02:26:45,300 --> 02:26:49,500 course, as always, the show notes 414 dot na show. notes.com 2374 02:26:49,500 --> 02:26:53,580 is the show notes for today's episode. And we'll be back. God 2375 02:26:53,580 --> 02:26:58,260 willing, God fearing on Thursday, with another episode 2376 02:26:58,260 --> 02:27:01,290 here of no agenda are coming to you from the capital of the 2377 02:27:01,290 --> 02:27:03,960 drone Star State. It's Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody. 2378 02:27:03,960 --> 02:27:04,770 I'm Adam curry. 2379 02:27:05,070 --> 02:27:07,530 And finishing off here from Northern Silicon Valley. I'm 2380 02:27:07,530 --> 02:27:08,880 John C. Dvorak. 2381 02:27:08,910 --> 02:27:13,410 We'll be back again Thursday, same time, same bat channel. 2382 02:27:13,830 --> 02:27:18,570 Wait for the bat signal here on no agenda. 2383 02:27:38,610 --> 02:27:41,970 We've been having this party now for years seems like every year 2384 02:27:41,970 --> 02:27:46,020 it gets to be a little bit more fun. Couple more people come and 2385 02:27:46,020 --> 02:27:49,680 you know it started off small now the younger people are 2386 02:27:49,680 --> 02:27:58,050 coming in. This year we had a girl come audio mopho.org/n A