1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,190 If you never can know exactly what to expect, because well, 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,010 quite frankly, we have no agenda and it's time once again for the 3 00:00:08,010 --> 00:00:11,460 programme. It is this week's no agenda coming to you from the 4 00:00:11,460 --> 00:00:13,920 curry manor in United Kingdom. I'm Adam curry. 5 00:00:14,490 --> 00:00:16,830 And I'm John C. Dvorak up here in northern California. 6 00:00:16,950 --> 00:00:20,310 And we've got a new, this is something new for us, John 7 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:22,530 little tasks, we've reversed the roles for once. 8 00:00:24,030 --> 00:00:28,380 Yeah, I'm up late. It's like one in the morning as we're doing 9 00:00:28,380 --> 00:00:33,060 this. And you're just, I guess you just got up recently. Yeah, 10 00:00:33,060 --> 00:00:36,510 I've been up for a couple hours, but it's about 10 past nine in 11 00:00:36,510 --> 00:00:40,020 the morning. And it just worked out this way. I think we might 12 00:00:40,020 --> 00:00:43,530 as well tell. Tell the audience right off the bat that we're 13 00:00:43,530 --> 00:00:48,240 doing this on? What is it today? Say Thursday? Yeah, Thursday. So 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,820 we'll probably won't get this out until Friday. So it's one 15 00:00:50,820 --> 00:00:53,100 day earlier. But if you're wondering why some of the topics 16 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:57,090 may be about older news, 24 hours old. That's the reason 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,510 we don't really talk about the news as much as we do about 18 00:01:00,510 --> 00:01:01,740 trends. Well, that's 19 00:01:01,740 --> 00:01:04,410 true. Okay, then let me start right off the bat with a trend, 20 00:01:04,410 --> 00:01:10,230 which is huge protests in Europe over the price of gasoline, and 21 00:01:10,290 --> 00:01:16,650 in particular Diesel. Have you followed this at all? Heard 22 00:01:16,650 --> 00:01:16,890 about, 23 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:20,640 but the diesel thing has fascinated me because even at 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,930 the even here, for It started about a year ago, I noticed 25 00:01:24,930 --> 00:01:29,070 this. And I used to work as a petroleum chemist. So you have 26 00:01:29,070 --> 00:01:30,570 to, you know, 27 00:01:31,350 --> 00:01:34,140 you have to understand these things. Well, I 28 00:01:34,140 --> 00:01:37,830 mean, I kind of get part of it. But this, there's a baffling 29 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:40,650 aspect to it. Because this is not a normal situation. But 30 00:01:40,650 --> 00:01:44,010 about a year ago, the price of diesel started sneaking up and 31 00:01:44,010 --> 00:01:49,470 it became the same price as premium right, gasoline, I 32 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:52,080 will I've made a study and I know why at least in Europe, I 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,430 know why it's happening. All right, go. So first of all, you 34 00:01:56,430 --> 00:01:59,130 have a regular increase just in the in the raw materials. So the 35 00:01:59,130 --> 00:02:01,350 price of a barrel of oil is going up. But what all these 36 00:02:01,350 --> 00:02:04,770 governments have done, and there was a big protest in the UK two 37 00:02:04,770 --> 00:02:07,830 days ago, the French fishermen are protesting they're cutting 38 00:02:07,830 --> 00:02:11,070 off the Atlantic or whatever the hell is that all these 39 00:02:11,070 --> 00:02:17,070 governments have put extra tax co2 emission tax on diesel and 40 00:02:17,340 --> 00:02:20,610 and it's an extra tax because of course, I don't think this is 41 00:02:20,610 --> 00:02:24,600 true. Because they say well, diesel engines, you know, they 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,110 spew out much more co2, which of course is related directly back 43 00:02:28,110 --> 00:02:31,890 to this global warming meme that is out there. And I think that I 44 00:02:31,890 --> 00:02:33,900 don't know if that's the same in the States but in Europe, that's 45 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:35,910 exactly what's happened and that's why that price has been 46 00:02:35,910 --> 00:02:36,840 driven up so far. 47 00:02:37,170 --> 00:02:41,280 I don't know of any increased tax on diesel fuel in the US the 48 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,390 prices snuck up to the price of premium and then it started 49 00:02:45,390 --> 00:02:48,390 creeping above it and now it's like 10 or 20 cents higher than 50 00:02:48,390 --> 00:02:52,110 premium gasoline and it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever 51 00:02:52,110 --> 00:02:57,240 and and so far as the carbon footprint of diesel which have 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:57,840 been horses was 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,160 probably not true. I think 54 00:03:00,450 --> 00:03:04,260 a lot of particulate from diesel fuel more than anything, but it 55 00:03:04,260 --> 00:03:08,460 tends to be I don't see that as just producing more co2 to be I 56 00:03:08,460 --> 00:03:13,170 mean, just don't see it. I get this i don't know i have to I'm 57 00:03:13,170 --> 00:03:15,030 gonna have to do a little reading and see what the heck's 58 00:03:15,030 --> 00:03:16,680 going on because it doesn't make any sense. 59 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,740 Well, what is happening is it's making everyone's livelihood 60 00:03:19,740 --> 00:03:22,530 kind of hard because you know when you get an increase like 61 00:03:22,530 --> 00:03:27,060 that in your in your basic you know the basics of your business 62 00:03:27,060 --> 00:03:31,500 if you're if you're a trucker or if you if you need diesel for 63 00:03:31,500 --> 00:03:34,290 any other reason then you know, that's that's a real big problem 64 00:03:34,290 --> 00:03:35,880 that's straight to your bottom line. 65 00:03:36,990 --> 00:03:39,570 Well that's past often the customers and so it's a really 66 00:03:39,570 --> 00:03:41,910 issue I think the only people that benefit from this I'm 67 00:03:41,910 --> 00:03:45,120 starting to notice this now. And this is kind of weird to there 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,470 might be some connection I saw an ad the other day yesterday as 69 00:03:49,470 --> 00:03:53,760 a matter of fact for for the railroads they've been 70 00:03:53,790 --> 00:03:57,540 advertising on the radio for a while but now I'm seeing TV ads 71 00:03:58,530 --> 00:04:01,830 bragging about how much you know they can carry like tonnes of 72 00:04:01,830 --> 00:04:05,370 stuff for a nickel you know and this like I'm seeing why is it 73 00:04:05,910 --> 00:04:09,570 I've never seen I have never seen in my life that I can think 74 00:04:09,570 --> 00:04:15,060 of ads for railway transportation for you know for 75 00:04:15,060 --> 00:04:18,420 products that just watching this going huh 76 00:04:18,570 --> 00:04:21,990 yeah in fact if anything is only been commercials for transport 77 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:22,500 of people 78 00:04:23,940 --> 00:04:26,640 well yeah, here actually we don't see that even that I guess 79 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,210 there's some Amtrak occasional Amtrak commercials but then no, 80 00:04:30,210 --> 00:04:34,200 this was transporting cars in particular but you could tell it 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,630 what they were getting that they were talking about Tom, what is 82 00:04:36,630 --> 00:04:39,690 it cost per mile to move a tonne? And it's like a lot 83 00:04:39,690 --> 00:04:42,540 cheaper than it is with a truck. So I don't know there's 84 00:04:42,540 --> 00:04:45,060 something screwy going on. I'm sure it will come out 85 00:04:45,060 --> 00:04:45,570 eventually. 86 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,120 It's interesting that that that price of diesel though as you 87 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,670 say that you don't think it has anything to do with with carbon 88 00:04:50,670 --> 00:04:53,700 emission taxes but you know, Gordon Brown of course the prime 89 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:56,910 minister in the UK is already under severe pressure. People 90 00:04:56,910 --> 00:05:01,530 are calling for his head almost literally And in thing was 91 00:05:01,530 --> 00:05:05,970 yesterday's Financial Times actually the Labour government 92 00:05:05,970 --> 00:05:08,670 here is saying you know, we just made back off of that to two 93 00:05:08,670 --> 00:05:13,440 pence raise in in gas taxes that's coming up in July because 94 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,350 the truckers literally blocked off the West End I mean within 95 00:05:16,350 --> 00:05:19,830 set almost 100 miles outside of London traffic was messed up 96 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:20,820 they did a great job. 97 00:05:21,239 --> 00:05:24,449 Good for them. Yeah and final French Yeah, 98 00:05:24,479 --> 00:05:27,659 exactly. Finally finally and everyone's behind them you know 99 00:05:27,659 --> 00:05:30,449 everyone's because everyone else has these do their own issue 100 00:05:30,449 --> 00:05:32,789 with the price of gas. I'm just waiting for this to happen in 101 00:05:32,789 --> 00:05:33,449 the states 102 00:05:34,289 --> 00:05:37,919 Well, you know that it just hasn't happened I mean, we ever 103 00:05:37,919 --> 00:05:40,019 I think everyone's complaining about but I think it's gotten to 104 00:05:40,019 --> 00:05:42,629 the end it is expensive it's amazing. I feel sorry for the 105 00:05:42,629 --> 00:05:44,879 people who bought this diesel cars you know, thinking that 106 00:05:44,879 --> 00:05:49,919 we're going to do exactly exactly in fact it may be a ploy 107 00:05:49,919 --> 00:05:53,639 to eliminate the possibility of diesel cars becoming successful 108 00:05:53,670 --> 00:06:01,410 you know we need John you know, we need a rubber duck member 109 00:06:01,410 --> 00:06:01,770 this 110 00:06:02,910 --> 00:06:04,830 fan come on yeah, unfortunately I do. 111 00:06:06,150 --> 00:06:07,410 On boy. 112 00:06:07,739 --> 00:06:10,919 So talking about you know, the craziness over there. I'm 113 00:06:10,919 --> 00:06:14,279 looking at this entry on the blog that we have here, which I 114 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,029 put up every adult in Britain should be forced to carry carbon 115 00:06:18,029 --> 00:06:23,489 ration cards. Say MPs. carvery read this door No, no 116 00:06:23,490 --> 00:06:25,050 carbon rations. What's that? 117 00:06:25,650 --> 00:06:28,200 Yeah, this guy is perfect. This one guy in particular one of 118 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:35,580 your one of your crackpot MPs Member of Parliament. I'm gonna 119 00:06:35,580 --> 00:06:37,770 tell you who it is we have his picture up. I forgot to put his 120 00:06:37,770 --> 00:06:38,190 name I 121 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,740 don't want to serve today because the bandwidth is little. 122 00:06:42,180 --> 00:06:45,780 I'm gonna tell you who it is. It said Tim me II Oh, even though 123 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:52,530 he sounds like a Chinese guys, white MPs led by Tory Tim Yeo 124 00:06:52,530 --> 00:06:52,860 why 125 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,270 conservatives. So he's, he's in the opposition. Say this 126 00:06:57,270 --> 00:07:00,540 scheme should be more effective at cutting greenhouse gas gas 127 00:07:00,540 --> 00:07:02,520 emissions, then green taxes. 128 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,550 I'm tired of this man. governments all over the world 129 00:07:05,550 --> 00:07:09,690 are using this co2 emissions thing to tax the living 130 00:07:09,690 --> 00:07:11,280 daylights out of everything. 131 00:07:12,690 --> 00:07:15,780 It's just an excuse. They've jumped on the bandwagon when 132 00:07:15,780 --> 00:07:18,570 they somebody came up with the idea, hey, we can now tax 133 00:07:18,570 --> 00:07:21,720 people. And then of course, at the end of this article is semi 134 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,920 rigid how the scheme would work. I'm going to list off that crap. 135 00:07:26,130 --> 00:07:29,400 Every adult in the UK would be given an annual carbon dioxide 136 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,020 allowance, kilogrammes and a special carbon card. The scheme 137 00:07:34,020 --> 00:07:38,610 would cover road fuel flights and energy bills. Every time 138 00:07:38,610 --> 00:07:41,880 someone paid for road fuel flights or energy their carbon 139 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:47,940 account would be docked. A litre of petrol would use up to 2.3 140 00:07:47,940 --> 00:07:51,270 kilogrammes in carbon while every 1.3 miles of airline 141 00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:54,570 flight would use another one kilogramme. By the way, you'd be 142 00:07:54,570 --> 00:07:58,740 paying a lot for your legit private plane hell. When paying 143 00:07:58,740 --> 00:08:01,350 for patches only three more of these, when paying for petrol 144 00:08:01,350 --> 00:08:05,010 that card would need to be swiped at the till it would be a 145 00:08:05,010 --> 00:08:09,360 legal offence to buy petrol without using a card when paying 146 00:08:09,510 --> 00:08:11,880 either against the generator, which is like rationing during 147 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,480 World War Two. When paying online or by direct debit, the 148 00:08:15,690 --> 00:08:19,530 carbon account would be debited directly. And anyone who doesn't 149 00:08:19,530 --> 00:08:23,100 use up their credit, this is the kicker here. Anyone who doesn't 150 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:26,490 use up their credits in a year can sell them to someone who 151 00:08:26,490 --> 00:08:30,330 wants more credits, trading would be done through specialist 152 00:08:30,330 --> 00:08:31,170 companies. 153 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:34,079 And you know what this is? I think this is two things. First 154 00:08:34,079 --> 00:08:36,089 of all, no, it's three things. First of all, it's fucking 155 00:08:36,089 --> 00:08:39,959 stupid. Excuse my language, because it's just not enough 156 00:08:39,959 --> 00:08:40,649 proof or the 157 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,159 Al Gore. Exactly. This is this is all runs one of these 158 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:48,299 companies that trades carbon credits. It's a crock of Crap 159 00:08:48,300 --> 00:08:51,600 Scam, it's a scam. It's like trying to create a new 160 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,660 investment market or something. So you can make money on trading 161 00:08:54,660 --> 00:08:59,010 carbon credits. And I think it's also an underhand way of there's 162 00:08:59,010 --> 00:09:02,220 another big debate going on here about the National ID Card, 163 00:09:02,580 --> 00:09:06,240 which, you know, no, I don't think the public wants it. 164 00:09:06,570 --> 00:09:08,640 Labour has been trying to bring that in so that you know, 165 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,130 basically all of your information is on a card. So it 166 00:09:11,130 --> 00:09:13,200 just starts with carbon emissions, I guess. And then you 167 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,410 can attach anything to that card that you swipe through. And 168 00:09:16,410 --> 00:09:18,630 that's just a matter of adding another database to it. 169 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:24,600 To unbelievable. So anyway, that's the kind of weird that me 170 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,020 this thing is getting out of control. I mean, it's not doing 171 00:09:28,020 --> 00:09:31,530 anything to stop anything. And now you know, there's a who's 172 00:09:31,530 --> 00:09:34,140 going to set these limits. It's just the whole thing is it's 173 00:09:34,140 --> 00:09:37,650 just become, I mean, they're completely blowing any, you 174 00:09:37,650 --> 00:09:41,520 know, possibility that we could actually cut emissions at all by 175 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,570 just being jerks. 176 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,780 I can just see what's happening. You go to a public restroom, you 177 00:09:45,780 --> 00:09:47,880 have to swipe your card, because of course, you know, if you're 178 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,100 doing a number two, well, you know that's gonna that's going 179 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:52,650 to be a couple of carbon credits there because you're emitting 180 00:09:52,650 --> 00:09:54,090 co2 in a big way. I 181 00:09:54,090 --> 00:09:56,280 think every cow is going to have to have a barcode. 182 00:09:58,380 --> 00:10:03,060 Oh man Oh, well, that's a that's a trend. I'm not liking 183 00:10:04,589 --> 00:10:08,579 somebody. I'm looking at the blog and somebody named grim Bo 184 00:10:08,699 --> 00:10:12,269 has a comment. Got a bunch of comments on this posting. He's 185 00:10:12,329 --> 00:10:16,019 he says he's obviously in the UK or Europe. He says, Isn't there 186 00:10:16,019 --> 00:10:18,719 anything happening in the USA worth writing about? Because 187 00:10:18,719 --> 00:10:23,189 I'm, you know, we haven't gotten to this corny thing yet. I'm 188 00:10:23,189 --> 00:10:25,199 just trying to stave it off. Yeah, really? 189 00:10:27,810 --> 00:10:29,820 Here's a book I want to read many. I'm sure you've heard 190 00:10:29,820 --> 00:10:31,350 about Scott McClellan's book. 191 00:10:32,550 --> 00:10:36,030 Yeah, there's a lot of controversy. Yeah. All the fact 192 00:10:36,030 --> 00:10:39,930 all the right wing talk show guys are all worked up about 193 00:10:39,930 --> 00:10:40,680 this. Oh, tell me 194 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:42,960 about let's just explain to the listeners. Maybe not everyone 195 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,950 knows Scott McClellan was the the White House Press Secretary, 196 00:10:46,950 --> 00:10:47,400 I believe. 197 00:10:47,849 --> 00:10:51,299 Yeah, but the first one and he was the most nervous looking one 198 00:10:51,299 --> 00:10:53,639 up there. And he was always like, you know, 199 00:10:54,300 --> 00:10:56,400 sweaty, sweaty lip guy. That's 200 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,730 what I always call it. Uh, yeah. And so he comes out with this 201 00:10:59,730 --> 00:11:02,790 tell all I mean, what is he? What is he? What's the there's 202 00:11:02,790 --> 00:11:04,170 something fishy about this. 203 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,350 He's making money. First of all, he made money telling the lies. 204 00:11:07,350 --> 00:11:10,410 Now he's making money telling the truth. I guess I don't know 205 00:11:10,410 --> 00:11:13,350 what I want other way to look and explain to people what the 206 00:11:13,350 --> 00:11:18,270 books about. So the book is about his his tenure as press 207 00:11:18,540 --> 00:11:23,460 secretary between 2003 2006. And in particular, he talks about, 208 00:11:24,510 --> 00:11:27,480 I'd haven't read the book, obviously, about how Condoleezza 209 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,440 Rice is kind of like the Teflon, Dame like she everything just 210 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,320 glides right off of her, she deflects things to other people. 211 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:38,700 That, you know, the importance of rove how Dick Cheney is 212 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:40,950 pulling on the strings behind the screens. And then in 213 00:11:40,950 --> 00:11:44,010 particular, how the Bush administration lied to the 214 00:11:44,010 --> 00:11:46,710 American public to get into Iraq. Paraphrasing, of course, 215 00:11:46,710 --> 00:11:48,780 haven't read the book, but I think that's kind of what it is. 216 00:11:49,620 --> 00:11:53,400 Yeah, that's what everybody says it is. And everybody's upset 217 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,520 about the fact that this guy, not because he's telling the 218 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,090 truth, but it's like, Where were you, you know, when you needed 219 00:12:00,090 --> 00:12:04,380 to be telling the truth? I mean, why would you be such a stooge 220 00:12:04,620 --> 00:12:07,320 that you would, you know, go along with the programme for 221 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,840 such a long time? And then because you need some money 222 00:12:09,870 --> 00:12:11,550 doing a book, now you're doing this? 223 00:12:11,580 --> 00:12:14,310 Well, I would say there's one other reason to do this. I'd say 224 00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:18,450 the other reason is protection. You know, to protect himself to 225 00:12:18,450 --> 00:12:19,470 go public with it. 226 00:12:20,010 --> 00:12:21,540 protect himself from what from 227 00:12:21,540 --> 00:12:28,230 getting killed? by who? By evil by evil forces, you know? Yeah. 228 00:12:28,230 --> 00:12:30,690 I mean, no one wants this information out there. And if 229 00:12:30,690 --> 00:12:33,150 everyone knows that, that he's kind of on the fence or 230 00:12:33,150 --> 00:12:35,670 whatever, you know, it could be one of these. Oops, he committed 231 00:12:35,670 --> 00:12:37,080 suicide type things. 232 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,420 You know, brother? Well, I think that's a bit much. 233 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:42,990 I don't know, man. I mean, look, you know, what's the difference 234 00:12:42,990 --> 00:12:45,630 between often one guy who might want to tell the truth about the 235 00:12:45,630 --> 00:12:49,620 lies about getting us into Iraq and actually lying and getting 236 00:12:49,620 --> 00:12:51,450 us into Iraq? You know, which one is worse? 237 00:12:51,870 --> 00:12:54,330 I don't know. All I know is I don't know anyone who's been 238 00:12:54,330 --> 00:12:55,470 killed yet. 239 00:12:56,220 --> 00:13:00,090 Well, there was one member and this kind of died in the in the 240 00:13:00,090 --> 00:13:04,320 press. Remember the guy if this was in the UK? wasn't in the UK? 241 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:09,240 The science, I think was the UK, the scientist who actually 242 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,240 wasn't great 243 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,450 at that scientists who had some something to say about the fact 244 00:13:15,450 --> 00:13:18,360 that the report was a crock of crap. Right, right. And he ended 245 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,920 up dead in a field or something while hiking or some crazy. One 246 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,710 of those I don't think that just died. I mean, they harped on 247 00:13:25,710 --> 00:13:29,730 that thing as some sort of a screwy situation for months on 248 00:13:29,730 --> 00:13:32,280 end. And they and then it just died. And then it just went 249 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,650 away. Yeah, because people get sick and listen to this stuff. I 250 00:13:34,650 --> 00:13:37,170 mean, there's a bunch of connections, Jimmy, like 251 00:13:37,230 --> 00:13:40,320 coincidental connections between Clinton and a bunch of damage. 252 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,650 There was a whole website devoted to crazy people that had 253 00:13:43,650 --> 00:13:46,860 died because a foster that had died, you know, during the 254 00:13:46,860 --> 00:13:50,460 Clinton administration with implications that he was had 255 00:13:50,460 --> 00:13:51,480 somebody killing them. 256 00:13:51,510 --> 00:13:55,680 Right. Whitewater stuff, wasn't it? Yeah, a lot of that. But, 257 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:57,870 you know, I believe that happens. I believe in that kind 258 00:13:57,870 --> 00:14:00,450 of cloak and dagger stuff. I think that absolutely happens. 259 00:14:01,350 --> 00:14:04,680 I think it's funny that you would say that not because maybe 260 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:07,710 it does happen or doesn't happen. But because of the fact 261 00:14:07,710 --> 00:14:12,150 that when I mentioned that I thought it was a scam that Marie 262 00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:16,860 Osmond fell to the deck on national TV as a publicity 263 00:14:16,860 --> 00:14:20,730 stunt. You are completely no, that couldn't possibly be the 264 00:14:20,730 --> 00:14:21,480 case. May 265 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,330 I point out that I changed my position on that later after I 266 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:25,050 thought about it. 267 00:14:25,620 --> 00:14:29,100 Yeah, no, I Yeah, you did. I'm just saying no, you're you're 268 00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:33,540 normal. You're normally kind of conservative with these kinds of 269 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:36,120 thoughts. And I've never heard you come off the wall with some 270 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:36,540 of these. You 271 00:14:37,860 --> 00:14:41,130 wrote the book that protect himself from being killed. Well, 272 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:44,460 there's quite a jump John between way by the way. 273 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,600 It was a mob deal. You write that book, then you will be 274 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:48,960 killed. 275 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:53,970 Well, at least he got it open. Yeah. Marie Osmond. I saw her 276 00:14:53,970 --> 00:14:57,360 faint, and I thought it looked pretty realistic, but I 277 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,380 ritualised separately 278 00:14:58,470 --> 00:15:02,010 except for the back of the hand. And to the top of the forehead 279 00:15:02,010 --> 00:15:04,140 and and the twisting fall. 280 00:15:06,420 --> 00:15:08,130 They were goon 281 00:15:08,670 --> 00:15:12,180 they were on Jonathan Ross, which is our big weekly, Friday 282 00:15:12,180 --> 00:15:15,480 night talk show here in the UK. They're, like, seven of the 283 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,510 Azzaman. So it was and there's there's like two there's a 284 00:15:18,510 --> 00:15:22,470 million Osmonds, of course, but you have Donnie Jimmy and Marie. 285 00:15:22,590 --> 00:15:24,870 And then you have the three older guys and those brothers 286 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:29,610 are like in their, like mid 60s. And they're on tour now and and 287 00:15:29,610 --> 00:15:31,020 they're selling out everywhere. 288 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,430 Oh god, yeah. In England are touring England. 289 00:15:36,390 --> 00:15:41,220 They they're doing it started in they did one small gig and now 290 00:15:41,220 --> 00:15:43,710 they're doing the oh two arena and now they're set up a world 291 00:15:43,710 --> 00:15:47,370 tour. It's pandemonium is selling out the old to arena for 292 00:15:47,370 --> 00:15:51,900 Crazy Horses. But think about it. You have Donnie dad a lot of 293 00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:54,450 hits John, you can laugh about him. But Donnie and Marie had 294 00:15:54,450 --> 00:15:57,660 massive hits. And of course, there's the one name one. Oh, 295 00:15:57,930 --> 00:16:02,580 okay, Donny Osmond, puppy love. Put your head on my shoulder, 296 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,940 which of course Paul Anka classic Donny and Marie had 297 00:16:06,270 --> 00:16:09,360 several I can't, I can't name those off off the top of my 298 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,960 head. But then you've got one probably love. The big one here 299 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,930 in the UK, which was never hit in the States, I don't think was 300 00:16:15,930 --> 00:16:19,350 Jimmy Osmond. Who had this song called I'll be your long haired 301 00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:23,730 liver lover from Liverpool now and it was a number one in all 302 00:16:23,730 --> 00:16:27,750 over Europe, particularly in the UK for months on end. And, you 303 00:16:27,750 --> 00:16:31,260 know, so all these and he was 13 at the time, so his audience is 304 00:16:31,260 --> 00:16:35,130 now my age. And this nostalgia. You know, these chicks love it. 305 00:16:36,390 --> 00:16:40,980 Brother. I'm telling. I'll be your long haired lover from 306 00:16:40,980 --> 00:16:42,210 Liverpool. 307 00:16:42,689 --> 00:16:45,419 You know, I don't mind. You know, I think there is something 308 00:16:45,419 --> 00:16:49,049 cool about seeing an old act. I mean, I went to see when they 309 00:16:49,049 --> 00:16:54,299 had the Venetian room here in San Francisco. Until recently. I 310 00:16:54,299 --> 00:16:57,269 would myself, my wife, and sometimes one of our kids would 311 00:16:57,269 --> 00:17:01,709 go to see these classic acts because it was a small venue. It 312 00:17:01,709 --> 00:17:04,109 was a little expensive, but it was worth going to. So I got to 313 00:17:04,109 --> 00:17:08,909 see Lou Raul was in a small venue. I got to see James Brown 314 00:17:08,909 --> 00:17:13,169 in a small venue. And actually, we went up to see Cab Calloway. 315 00:17:14,249 --> 00:17:17,549 In the same room with his band, it was actually is he still 316 00:17:17,549 --> 00:17:21,029 alive? He's dead now. But he was alive then. In fact, we actually 317 00:17:21,659 --> 00:17:24,569 had drinks with him afterwards. Curiously enough, he gave me his 318 00:17:24,569 --> 00:17:29,549 tips on horse race betting. And also cooking corn as a barbecue 319 00:17:29,549 --> 00:17:29,999 anyway. 320 00:17:31,980 --> 00:17:34,980 Here it is Cab Calloway Cobb recipe. 321 00:17:36,810 --> 00:17:39,870 No, there you have it. Okay. So but anyway, the point is, I 322 00:17:39,870 --> 00:17:42,690 don't mind that kind of a situation. I mean, it seems like 323 00:17:42,690 --> 00:17:44,400 a logical thing to do, if you want to see. 324 00:17:47,910 --> 00:17:50,340 Oh, hold on a second. John. I think I just lost you. There. 325 00:17:50,340 --> 00:17:50,760 You there. 326 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,450 Now? Am I there? 327 00:17:54,660 --> 00:17:56,850 Yet? You're back. Okay. You know, there's been some problems 328 00:17:56,850 --> 00:17:58,680 with this. I just want to say there's been some problems with 329 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,320 Skype over the past couple of days. I noticed. And I don't 330 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,780 think it's just my bandwidth. I think it's, there's some kind of 331 00:18:03,780 --> 00:18:07,080 problem going on, particularly if you talk really loudly and 332 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,450 not you because you've got a compressor and limiter setup. 333 00:18:09,660 --> 00:18:12,450 But it just seems to drop out. I've been seeing this a lot. 334 00:18:13,710 --> 00:18:17,970 I haven't noticed it over here, but I don't use it that much. I 335 00:18:17,970 --> 00:18:20,520 mean, this is that it makes sense to me that you would go 336 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,160 see some of these acts if you have an opportunity, especially 337 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,930 if you get the same close up. But to go to a big, giant venue 338 00:18:27,930 --> 00:18:32,880 to listen to the Osmonds, you know, do nostalgia doing your 339 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,780 dinosaur act from 25 years ago doesn't make any sense it all to 340 00:18:36,780 --> 00:18:37,050 me. 341 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,190 It's actually 30 years ago, maybe even 35. But I will say 342 00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:44,820 the culture in the United Kingdom of big concerts and 343 00:18:44,820 --> 00:18:49,110 festivals is is huge. So it's you know, and it's a it's almost 344 00:18:49,110 --> 00:18:51,270 like a football match. And they all go there and they all sing 345 00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:53,790 the songs together and they drink beer, which of course is 346 00:18:54,090 --> 00:18:57,810 worse. No, please. No, no, you're just being cranky. 347 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:00,720 No, I'm just saying it said I don't want to go out with a 348 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,940 bunch of old drunks. Listen is 349 00:19:02,970 --> 00:19:07,830 40 years old is not give me a break. 40 is not old. 350 00:19:09,930 --> 00:19:15,180 Man. So the drunks in the audience probably are that's 351 00:19:15,180 --> 00:19:19,350 unbelievable. Yeah, I don't know. It just doesn't sound 352 00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:21,360 right. That 353 00:19:22,980 --> 00:19:25,740 makes people happy then it's right John, come on. We need 354 00:19:25,740 --> 00:19:32,040 some happiness. God what did you love her from Liverpool? Yes 355 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,650 once in a while. Look, I can bitch about carbon credits, but 356 00:19:34,650 --> 00:19:36,480 I do love Jimmy Osman. I'm sorry. 357 00:19:37,710 --> 00:19:41,670 So what else weird is going on over there? We have Sharon Stone 358 00:19:41,670 --> 00:19:44,730 over here telling the Chinese that there's bad karma. That's 359 00:19:44,730 --> 00:19:47,250 the reason they had their earthquake which cracks me up. 360 00:19:47,250 --> 00:19:47,430 Oh 361 00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:52,230 really? What an idiot. She's a total idiot had karma? Is that 362 00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:54,180 what you say? What did she say? She made a big 363 00:19:54,180 --> 00:19:57,240 stink about it. She says she was at some event where she was 364 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,540 actually talking to a Chinese delegation in public He made a 365 00:20:00,540 --> 00:20:03,690 big stink about his bad karma when you do bad things, bad 366 00:20:03,690 --> 00:20:06,510 things happen to you like she's some sort of a like a 12 year 367 00:20:06,510 --> 00:20:06,780 old. 368 00:20:07,020 --> 00:20:13,290 Speaking of drunks. Really, that's, that's, that's pretty 369 00:20:13,290 --> 00:20:18,690 messed up. I'm trying to think, well, there is there is a Euro 370 00:20:18,690 --> 00:20:22,500 there's a European Parliament thing that they're getting into 371 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:29,070 now is there's discussions about banning import into Europe of 372 00:20:29,070 --> 00:20:33,390 products that are a derivative of child labour. And so there's 373 00:20:33,390 --> 00:20:36,000 several countries that are saying, you know, yeah, we think 374 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,040 we should warn him that we don't actually think we should stop 375 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,650 the import of these products. So there's, there's something weird 376 00:20:40,650 --> 00:20:43,680 going on there, which I'm sure is China related, probably India 377 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:48,000 related. Who knows maybe the old BRIC countries that's going on 378 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,230 in the European Well, there 379 00:20:49,230 --> 00:20:52,290 was a there was a new United started watching news night, 380 00:20:52,890 --> 00:20:56,100 which I recommend to Americans, if they get BBC America, it 381 00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:59,010 comes on Friday nights. And it's I think they repeated on a great 382 00:20:59,010 --> 00:21:03,720 show, great show prize from BBC Two. And so I quoted something 383 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,450 from it on a blog and somebody, I don't know, I guess we were 384 00:21:06,450 --> 00:21:09,090 talking about something on no agenda, and somebody sent me an 385 00:21:09,090 --> 00:21:12,090 email saying, hey, you know, you shouldn't note that this is the 386 00:21:12,090 --> 00:21:17,340 most reputable show on the produce air. And so I started 387 00:21:17,340 --> 00:21:20,160 watching it, it's actually quite good. It's like, it's like, it's 388 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,670 actually like a jazzed up or dramatised 60 minutes it's 389 00:21:23,670 --> 00:21:26,460 actually better in many ways, but they had a thing on it was 390 00:21:26,460 --> 00:21:30,510 either last week or the week before that was me they took 391 00:21:30,510 --> 00:21:36,510 these they took these people and these these women and that were 392 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:41,700 fashion East fashion oriented British girls that didn't think 393 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:44,580 much about wearing something once and thrown it away and took 394 00:21:44,580 --> 00:21:45,990 them to China. 395 00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:48,780 Oh and show them how the ship was made. 396 00:21:49,230 --> 00:21:53,160 Well they made him work there oh yeah, it was part of the job is 397 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,200 like they had to do this some of these things had to do some 398 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,140 sewing they had to do some this and that and the other thing and 399 00:21:58,140 --> 00:22:01,530 all of them came back they were so I mean amazingly 400 00:22:01,530 --> 00:22:05,280 disillusioned with the whole situation that it was actually 401 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,200 quite entertaining to watch 402 00:22:07,230 --> 00:22:09,690 well that's a that's a good thing and quite topical because 403 00:22:09,690 --> 00:22:12,060 at this very moment you know what the number one movie is 404 00:22:12,060 --> 00:22:14,460 going to be this weekend if it isn't already in the states it's 405 00:22:14,460 --> 00:22:17,520 going to be a Sex in the City which of course is filled with 406 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,230 nothing but brand name overpriced shoes, handbags and 407 00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:22,830 clothing 408 00:22:25,050 --> 00:22:26,460 I hope it's not number one 409 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,630 Oh, it's it's gonna be box office Bonanza this is this is 410 00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:35,520 the equivalent of for guys. You know that like Debbie does 411 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,060 Dallas in the 2008 version would be released in theatres. You 412 00:22:39,060 --> 00:22:42,810 know that we love porn. Most guys love porn. This is female 413 00:22:42,810 --> 00:22:46,440 porn. That's plain and simple. Have you I don't know about your 414 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,270 wife. My wife has certainly she likes the porn but she can't 415 00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:54,390 stand paying the prices for it but in general I think I see 416 00:22:54,390 --> 00:23:01,110 women who are who absolutely worship Blahnik whatever the 417 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:08,040 What the hell is name those shoes? Milan no Mahalo. The 418 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,180 worship these shoes is like $400 shoes. Which two slabs of 419 00:23:12,180 --> 00:23:13,500 leather with a stick. 420 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,600 It's crazy. You know? Luckily, my wife's not a shoe nut. 421 00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:21,720 Yeah, how about handbags? That's another one that's just crazy. 422 00:23:22,260 --> 00:23:25,500 Handbags. Well, there's actually good websites dedicated to the 423 00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:27,930 handbags. Yeah, you know, your Sex in the City will have tonnes 424 00:23:27,930 --> 00:23:31,350 of that stuff. But the thing is, it's like a such a chick flick 425 00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:34,740 from the get go. That it's almost like a parody of itself. 426 00:23:34,740 --> 00:23:37,200 Right from the beginning. I don't even know if I'd watch it. 427 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:40,080 I'm definitely not going to go see it. But I don't know if I'd 428 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,130 even bother watching it on on a DVD. Because, you know, I 429 00:23:44,130 --> 00:23:46,620 watched the series on and off. And it was kind of interesting, 430 00:23:46,620 --> 00:23:50,760 because it was structured similarly to the Seinfeld show 431 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,700 where they had gotten themselves into these kinds of situations. 432 00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:57,780 Yeah, situations that were kind of amusing at you know, and it 433 00:23:57,780 --> 00:24:01,380 was well written and it was you know, it but it was again, you 434 00:24:01,380 --> 00:24:06,390 know, I think the parody of it done on The Simpsons. Were one 435 00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:09,480 of the people in the Simpsons that Oh, you mean, that show 436 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,420 where those those four women sit are sitting around the table 437 00:24:12,420 --> 00:24:14,010 acting like gay men. 438 00:24:15,810 --> 00:24:18,960 It's written by it's written by gay men the show I don't know 439 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,750 what the mood but the show was written by I think the writers 440 00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:22,380 are gay men. 441 00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:25,950 Okay, well, that made that makes sense. Makes sense, doesn't it? 442 00:24:25,950 --> 00:24:29,010 Yeah. But what's you know, my 443 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,710 my daughter wanted to go last night so that was a Wednesday 444 00:24:31,710 --> 00:24:35,340 night it was sold out. I do have a theory though. Why there's 445 00:24:35,370 --> 00:24:39,180 there's very little criticism of this. And it's kind of the Obama 446 00:24:39,180 --> 00:24:43,020 theory. I think that because Carrie, whatever her name is, 447 00:24:43,050 --> 00:24:45,600 Carrie so their characters Carrie. So just Sarah Jessica 448 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,140 Parker, I believe because she is living the dream of many 449 00:24:49,140 --> 00:24:52,230 journalists you know, living your life writing about it for 450 00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:55,260 for a newspaper like the New York Times, you know, be kind of 451 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:58,410 a celebrated journalist. I have a feeling that for some reason 452 00:24:58,410 --> 00:24:58,950 longer 453 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,480 Longer 454 00:25:02,220 --> 00:25:05,220 yeah so maybe that's why there's no criticism I think people envy 455 00:25:05,220 --> 00:25:08,460 that type of lifestyle I don't know there's something it's you 456 00:25:08,460 --> 00:25:11,130 know what commercially speaking great frickin idea 457 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,260 congratulations power to you guys 458 00:25:13,650 --> 00:25:20,130 whatever I actually doubt that I was even bother to watch it I 459 00:25:20,130 --> 00:25:23,940 mean it's just got its I would I just needed to know what the 460 00:25:23,940 --> 00:25:28,230 ending is and I've done well look I think most of Mr Big get 461 00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:33,030 killed or cares all I know I would like to know because it's 462 00:25:33,030 --> 00:25:36,030 good wraps it up tonight I guess I can have I don't have to deal 463 00:25:36,030 --> 00:25:37,440 with it. Okay, so we'll 464 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,710 get a spoiler out there but for the for the men listening to the 465 00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:44,370 show without a doubt is a guaranteed you'll get laid chick 466 00:25:44,370 --> 00:25:44,820 flick. 467 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,010 I'm not sure of that. 468 00:25:48,060 --> 00:25:49,320 Well, let's do a poll. 469 00:25:51,630 --> 00:25:55,320 Okay, well, we will Yeah, well, I just not sure that it's a get 470 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,240 laid chick flick flick. I think it's just you. 471 00:25:57,420 --> 00:26:00,600 You take your girlfriend to this movie, you're getting laid. 472 00:26:02,850 --> 00:26:06,780 All right. Let's do a test. Anybody out there listen to this 473 00:26:06,780 --> 00:26:11,190 show. Email Adam. results of the test? 474 00:26:11,340 --> 00:26:16,530 Yes. I'll put up on one of those. Google Docs spreadsheets. 475 00:26:16,919 --> 00:26:17,879 No cheating. 476 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:20,190 We're gonna come and check on you. 477 00:26:20,610 --> 00:26:23,100 No cheating, none of this, you know, get her drunk and then get 478 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:26,640 lay I you know, no, it has to be you go to the movie. And then 479 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,890 the next thing you know, you're just having more sex than you 480 00:26:28,890 --> 00:26:31,500 could imagine. Okay, and I think it only counts if it's like 481 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:33,870 somebody who hasn't had sex with the person before. 482 00:26:34,770 --> 00:26:37,920 Oh, okay. Well, now you're putting all kinds of parameters 483 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,610 and I think it's much 484 00:26:38,910 --> 00:26:41,280 okay, let's do it. Let's make it any sort of sex but I want to 485 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,080 hear the details. Okay. In other words, is it your wife? You 486 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,990 know, or is it some someone else's wife? Somebody else's 487 00:26:48,990 --> 00:26:52,080 wife is somebody that you have sex with every night anyway. 488 00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:56,070 I know. Now you're putting too many parameters in for the night 489 00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:58,320 I just want to know that you know, you just said yes and no 490 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,220 things not gonna work for me. I just don't think it's effective. 491 00:27:03,030 --> 00:27:09,180 I think that whole thing's a myth change them in the olden 492 00:27:09,180 --> 00:27:13,560 days when I was a kid used to go to the drive in theatre and you 493 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,380 get watched these ended the movies that was supposedly you 494 00:27:16,380 --> 00:27:20,070 get some action is a little real scary films. Not somebody that 495 00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:24,510 break not a movie that brings the male to tears. Because it's 496 00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:27,330 gotten you know, tear jerker elements that are designed to 497 00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:36,270 make anyone who watches it cry, which is like this pathetic. You 498 00:27:36,270 --> 00:27:38,100 know, I mean, come on. Well, look 499 00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:40,740 how many people got laid after watching Schindler's List. Okay. 500 00:27:40,770 --> 00:27:43,020 You know, it's like, I think you got more chance with Sex in the 501 00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:46,110 City. That's what I'm just saying. Well, yeah, well, maybe 502 00:27:46,140 --> 00:27:49,590 I just, here's one for your John. Someone sent me You know, 503 00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:52,020 I've been using this drop.io I know I showed it to you. Have 504 00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:53,280 you actually started using that? 505 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,430 No, I've looked. I've been watching it though. Okay, so 506 00:27:56,460 --> 00:27:57,360 there's still 507 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,210 an alpha these guys gave me like because I was out of my one gig 508 00:28:00,210 --> 00:28:03,060 or whatever, within a week and they gave me 20 gigs. And so if 509 00:28:03,060 --> 00:28:07,680 people just been stacking stuff up, but there's this a link to a 510 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:14,760 YouTube clip. It's Mary cap tour. She's representative 511 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,850 Democratic Representative from Ohio. It's about seven minutes. 512 00:28:18,150 --> 00:28:21,810 And in it she she even holds up charge. She's talking about this 513 00:28:21,810 --> 00:28:25,380 super NAFTA thing which has been kind of rumoured about for a 514 00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:29,970 while, where apparently the Bush administration is quiet about 515 00:28:29,970 --> 00:28:32,640 the the highway Yeah, the highway. Yeah, she showed the 516 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,880 highway we blogged about that highway over a year ago. That's 517 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,720 NASSCO. You have to look it up as it's like NASSCO highway or 518 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,780 NASSCO, something that you know to find the information if you 519 00:28:42,780 --> 00:28:45,300 look it up on the blog if you type in NASSCO, I think you'd 520 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,550 find it there. But we haven't the maps and all the rest of it 521 00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:50,910 is not even a secret. But the thing that's really cool is this 522 00:28:50,940 --> 00:28:54,570 is this this video that's floating around YouTube where 523 00:28:54,570 --> 00:28:59,250 the Manitoba guy who runs Manitoba and what they what is 524 00:28:59,250 --> 00:29:02,100 the governor I'm not sure. But anyway, he was talking about it 525 00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:05,580 in great detail. And then meanwhile, they're excoriating 526 00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:10,500 Lou Dobbs because he calls it the NAFTA IWAY when it's really 527 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,680 I think he's just referring to in a generic sense instead of 528 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,030 NASSCO. The North American super corridor, whatever it is 529 00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:23,820 organisation and it's this is not a secret by any means. But 530 00:29:23,820 --> 00:29:27,540 the fact that they're trying to pretend that it is is ridiculous 531 00:29:27,540 --> 00:29:31,170 and we've been documenting this thing for you know, over a year 532 00:29:31,170 --> 00:29:33,960 I'm sure of it has been affected whole projects been going on for 533 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,040 15 years 534 00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:38,040 or so the recent developments and this is what it kind of came 535 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,300 down to is that so Ford is opening up a huge plant in 536 00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:47,130 Mexico. So you know a lot of jobs are going to be going to 537 00:29:47,130 --> 00:29:51,690 Mexico and then there's these Mexican can numbers and Mexican 538 00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:56,490 billionaire who owns the like the Chicago Skyway, which is a 539 00:29:56,490 --> 00:30:00,780 part of this of this superhighway project Uh, the 540 00:30:00,810 --> 00:30:01,440 there's another 541 00:30:03,419 --> 00:30:05,939 guy looking at the map, I don't see it going through Chicago. 542 00:30:05,939 --> 00:30:06,569 But anyway, go ahead. 543 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,060 Well, it was it was one branch if you have to see the video and 544 00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:12,420 you know, I'm sure Baba Baba, we'll put, we'll put a link to 545 00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:15,030 it in the show links. Okay. Yeah. But it was just 546 00:30:15,030 --> 00:30:17,100 interesting, because the way she brought it, it was like, you 547 00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,740 know, she had some really good points, I thought, I mean, I 548 00:30:19,740 --> 00:30:21,960 agree with you. It's not a secret, but it kind of hasn't 549 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,510 really been admitted to or not talked 550 00:30:24,510 --> 00:30:27,750 about, and they kind of pretend it's no big deal when it is a 551 00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:31,230 big deal. Because essentially, the Manitoba guy had to put a 552 00:30:31,230 --> 00:30:35,400 link to this thing. I'm doing a piece on how they're trying to, 553 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,880 they haven't really had to take me a while to because it's 554 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,980 actually you may not elaborate piece on how I think the powers 555 00:30:43,980 --> 00:30:48,660 that be are trying to ruin Lou Dobbs because he has, he's just 556 00:30:48,660 --> 00:30:55,290 not toeing the line. And. And anyway, so there's the Manitoba 557 00:30:55,290 --> 00:31:00,780 guy goes on about how what they're setting up is a port, a 558 00:31:00,780 --> 00:31:05,370 sea port, essentially, in Manitoba, that has pre 559 00:31:05,370 --> 00:31:09,600 clearances for the actual docking of the ships, which will 560 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,980 be in Mexico. And then it gets to get cleared down there. And 561 00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:15,900 then they're pre cleared, and then they go off to super 562 00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:18,900 corridor, and then they get dropped off in Canada, as though 563 00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:22,290 they were coming in off of the ship. Ah, okay, I got it. And 564 00:31:22,290 --> 00:31:25,170 and if you start really looking into it, this has a lot to do 565 00:31:25,170 --> 00:31:32,370 with the fact that the Seattle, Oakland and Long Beach harbours 566 00:31:32,370 --> 00:31:36,660 that taken most of the stuff from China, are going to either 567 00:31:36,690 --> 00:31:39,660 start charging too much, or they can get a better deal by 568 00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:42,900 dropping the stuff off down in Mexico on the super tankers, and 569 00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:45,390 a lot of them can't take some of these bigger boats. I mean, 570 00:31:45,390 --> 00:31:48,090 there's some huge ships being manufactured now that are so 571 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,100 monstrous is unbelievable. And so they're so this is part of 572 00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:57,150 that too, because you can save money if you go to Mexico, to 573 00:31:57,150 --> 00:31:58,590 that one of their ports. 574 00:31:58,949 --> 00:32:03,629 So let me ask you a question. Outside of perhaps, you know, 575 00:32:03,629 --> 00:32:07,619 40 50,000 jobs being eliminated in the US and, and moving down 576 00:32:07,619 --> 00:32:09,809 to Mexico? Is there anything bad about this idea? 577 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,620 Well, there's there. Yeah, there's a couple Well, depending 578 00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:19,440 on what you what you think is bad, or what do you think is one 579 00:32:20,130 --> 00:32:22,890 you know, bypassing? I mean, this for one thing, it's kind of 580 00:32:22,890 --> 00:32:28,230 weird that the EU have to drop stuff off in Mexico to get it to 581 00:32:28,620 --> 00:32:32,850 Canada when they have ports up in Vancouver, which they could 582 00:32:32,850 --> 00:32:35,790 take the stuff but apparently, you know, there's taxes or who 583 00:32:35,790 --> 00:32:36,000 knows? 584 00:32:36,570 --> 00:32:40,410 Maybe he's quicker routes. That could be a number of reasons, 585 00:32:40,410 --> 00:32:43,530 but I still don't see why that's necessarily bad. If we're a part 586 00:32:43,530 --> 00:32:45,060 of it, and we're making money from it. 587 00:32:45,150 --> 00:32:47,340 I don't know that we're making any money from it, except for 588 00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:49,800 the taxes on this big worry highway that's going to be going 589 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,040 up and down is also going to, you know, you it's just I mean, 590 00:32:53,070 --> 00:32:56,580 it's just they have this, this, it's almost like having an 591 00:32:56,610 --> 00:33:00,540 easement is the way I see it. And I don't like you know, if 592 00:33:00,540 --> 00:33:03,810 you have some property, and for some reason or another, somebody 593 00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:07,080 wants to get this other property behind your property, they 594 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,490 decided they want to run a two lane road right through your 595 00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:15,150 property to get there an easement as it would be called 596 00:33:15,150 --> 00:33:18,480 here. It's annoying. I mean, it's like, you know, now all of 597 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,540 a sudden, your property is cut in half. Right. So when why are 598 00:33:21,540 --> 00:33:23,970 we volunteering for this? It did the whole and why, you know, why 599 00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:26,760 don't we? I don't know. There's a lot of issues. I think it 600 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,130 needs to be discussed more, but it's not being discussed at all. 601 00:33:29,130 --> 00:33:31,830 So we don't have any good arguments one way or the other. 602 00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:34,260 When you know that we're having a bunch of Mexican trucks going 603 00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:37,770 up and down this road bringing in the illegals could be a drug 604 00:33:37,770 --> 00:33:42,480 trafficking the problem. Does a job loss thing and a white you 605 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,910 know, the Canadians used to have car plants up there. Why are we 606 00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:47,790 making cars in Mexico to shipping to Canada? I mean, just 607 00:33:48,210 --> 00:33:51,900 go Okay, great. I guess it makes them cheaper. There's a lot of 608 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:56,370 job loss issues. I don't know. It's really all about China's 609 00:33:56,370 --> 00:33:58,920 really not that much to do with Mexico and the billionaires down 610 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,980 there. It's about China finding a cheaper way to bring their 611 00:34:02,010 --> 00:34:03,570 cheap stuff over even cheaper. 612 00:34:04,350 --> 00:34:08,130 Through the mean through Mexico. Yeah, for Canada, 613 00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:11,100 that is not for us. I mean, we there's no benefit to us that I 614 00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:14,070 can see. We just lose a bunch of business in our some of our 615 00:34:14,070 --> 00:34:18,270 ports. And the we're just routing everything in a awkward 616 00:34:18,270 --> 00:34:21,570 way to Canada, which somehow is cheaper according to the way to 617 00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:25,440 do the numbers. I don't know. It's weird. But the thing that's 618 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,200 weirder about is the fact that there's so much kind of do all 619 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,510 we want to talk about it. Let's cover our ears. Bah bah, bah, 620 00:34:30,510 --> 00:34:33,030 bah, I can't hear you I can't hear you you know kind of thing 621 00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:36,360 and it's like you know, somebody like Lou Dobbs brings it up and 622 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120 they you know, calls it the NAFTA highway or whatever he 623 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,760 calls it and then they just jump all over him and people with 624 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,450 it's interesting to read the criticism it's there is no such 625 00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:48,600 thing as a NAFTA superhighway there is no NAFTA corridor 626 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,900 there. He's full of crap. He's a liar who's saying going on and 627 00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:54,480 honest like he's like He used a different term than the real 628 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,120 term NASSCO and as CEO, 629 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,620 so that's why they're debunking it or Yeah, using as a debunk is 630 00:35:01,620 --> 00:35:02,520 saying there's nothing 631 00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:04,440 right. They're saying he's full of crap. He doesn't know what 632 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,160 he's talking about. He's a liar. And it's like really weird. And 633 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,650 then in the skin, it's all these and the weird thing is, is 634 00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:15,600 mostly left wing media, people that are doing this not even the 635 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,840 Republicans. I mean, it's that's the strangest thing about this, 636 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,590 like you'd expect exactly the opposite. Yeah, I know. It's 637 00:35:22,590 --> 00:35:25,110 like media matters. And people like that, who are all really 638 00:35:25,110 --> 00:35:29,040 pretty much left of centre by a lot, that are all over this 639 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,550 thing. And it's just like, Okay, I don't know, there's something 640 00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:35,520 screwy going on is all I know, it's like somebody sent out the 641 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,970 word. And then you have like hit pieces that have come out in 642 00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:43,830 both the Washington Post. And there's this writer, Joe Klein, 643 00:35:43,830 --> 00:35:46,500 who's come out with some negative piece, it's almost 644 00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:51,120 looks like it was planted. And, you know, just a hit, you know, 645 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,110 hit dogs with this kind of information with this criticism, 646 00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:58,920 and linking to all the other people that were criticising it. 647 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,430 And a lot of it started with an article in salon magazine, the 648 00:36:02,430 --> 00:36:07,920 online salon, and, and they had a kind of a kind of an academic 649 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,340 nasty piece. It's really it's just like, it all happened at 650 00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:13,500 once as though somebody said, Okay, let's get him. 651 00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:17,070 Which is probably exactly what happened. Yeah, no, that's 652 00:36:17,070 --> 00:36:20,070 what I'm thinking. I have a thing that I like to do. And I 653 00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:23,400 think people should all do this, you have to assume and the funny 654 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,590 thing was, I mentioned this to you before, and I think I talked 655 00:36:25,590 --> 00:36:29,280 about on the show, but a friend of mine, we will keep her name 656 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,310 out of it for the moment, mentioned to me that she was, 657 00:36:32,430 --> 00:36:35,730 you know, offered a job with one of the major intelligence 658 00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:38,430 agencies when she got out of college, and her job was to be 659 00:36:38,850 --> 00:36:44,190 to work at a newspaper, and they'd get her a good position. 660 00:36:44,190 --> 00:36:47,610 And she'd moved up the ladder over the years. And every so 661 00:36:47,610 --> 00:36:51,330 often, she would be asked to drop in at least some 662 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:57,090 disinformation or a phoney story or some something. Not often, 663 00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:57,900 but once in a while. 664 00:36:57,930 --> 00:37:00,690 Well, that's what the CIA does they have that's, that's one of 665 00:37:00,690 --> 00:37:04,440 the main things their agents do is and I am reasonably reliably 666 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,780 informed is that, you know, they put people in, they give them a 667 00:37:06,780 --> 00:37:10,590 front. So you get like, maybe it could even be a PR agency as an 668 00:37:10,590 --> 00:37:13,380 example in your inner country and you're working as PR or you 669 00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:16,020 may be a journalist, and you're essentially you're on the 670 00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:18,150 payroll and you're meant to influence the press. 671 00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:21,390 Right? Well, it's usually you don't think the press itself is 672 00:37:21,390 --> 00:37:25,650 part of this, by the way. And I think this lesson, my wife, I 673 00:37:25,650 --> 00:37:28,560 said, we should start like some sort of a this will really get 674 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,890 everybody worked up, by the way, start some sort of a movement, 675 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,360 where members of the press need to take a lie detector test, to 676 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,940 assure the public that they're not working for an intelligence 677 00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:39,570 agency. 678 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,720 And we could do that with Jerry Springer with that new show of 679 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:46,590 his to tell the truth. That's a perfect combination. We put them 680 00:37:46,590 --> 00:37:49,620 on that. Okay, do your work for an intelligence agency, while 681 00:37:49,620 --> 00:37:51,810 the detector test it would be funny. 682 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,500 Anyway, so even 683 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,620 even just to say to a journalist, will you submit to a 684 00:37:58,620 --> 00:38:01,410 lie detector test could be quite telling what the answer is, 685 00:38:01,859 --> 00:38:04,679 oh, they go crazy. But anyway, the point is, is that one of the 686 00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:08,009 things I like to do is to try to figure out and I have my little 687 00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:13,559 lists of guys that I, I suspect are working for an intelligence 688 00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:16,259 agency, but based on the kind of articles they write and what 689 00:38:16,259 --> 00:38:18,929 they put out. But one of the things you can do is you can 690 00:38:18,929 --> 00:38:23,099 reverse engineer a lot of this and one, one specific way is 691 00:38:23,099 --> 00:38:27,089 that that book, Confessions of an economic hitman, which I 692 00:38:27,089 --> 00:38:30,239 don't think went over well, with, you know, anybody that was 693 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,039 involved in Daesil loves it, 694 00:38:32,070 --> 00:38:33,150 I love the book. 695 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,090 Well, what you want to do is you want to look at everyone, you 696 00:38:36,090 --> 00:38:38,460 want to look at all the reviews of the book and find the people 697 00:38:38,460 --> 00:38:41,070 who criticise Right, yeah, good point. And then you find out 698 00:38:41,070 --> 00:38:45,090 what they said in in their critique. And then now that 699 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,170 gives you a, you know, kind of a top list that you can now check 700 00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:51,510 these people on, what you do is you look at each one of their 701 00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:54,870 records in terms of what else have they written about. And you 702 00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:58,140 can quickly see which of the group and it's not all of them, 703 00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:01,350 but it's a good number of them, are obviously working for an 704 00:39:01,350 --> 00:39:04,800 intelligence agency, because they putting out this kind of 705 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,340 weird propaganda every so often. And it's and they do it 706 00:39:08,340 --> 00:39:11,250 consistently. And they're there, there are people that you should 707 00:39:11,250 --> 00:39:15,270 know who they are, and you have to make your own lists. And you 708 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:19,380 should take what they say with a grain of salt, or you could even 709 00:39:19,380 --> 00:39:23,130 go further and you should read what they write to see what the 710 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,450 you know, official line is, because you can kind of you can 711 00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:30,660 kind of determine it, you can kind of reverse engineer it by 712 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:33,570 just reading them. So you've done this work and you have to 713 00:39:33,570 --> 00:39:35,760 do it all the time. I mean, I do that constantly. And when I, 714 00:39:36,030 --> 00:39:40,260 when I'm suspicious of somebody else, I'll do this, because I 715 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:46,200 have to as a writer myself, I have to I don't mind, you know, 716 00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:49,800 putting out the party line when I'm in agreement with it or when 717 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,400 I think it's a good thing without being told, which is 718 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,800 typically what everybody does. If you're working for a magazine 719 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,040 and you're a writer for like time life you don't go writing 720 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,660 negative piece is about your own company, for example. So that's 721 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,690 pretty typical. And that's why you don't see you know, you 722 00:40:06,690 --> 00:40:10,320 know, pieces on on television, like on one of the networks, 723 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,760 like on ABC, for example, that go into Disney hiring practices. 724 00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:17,940 That's just never gonna you're not gonna see it on that 725 00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:19,860 network. And you won't see it on the other networks, either. 726 00:40:19,860 --> 00:40:23,250 Because these are all run by giant corporations. And if 727 00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:26,880 you're at NBC, which is owned by General Electric, and you do a 728 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,970 hit piece on Disney hiring practices, they're going to do a 729 00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:33,210 hit piece on you. And so this, but it's a gentleman's 730 00:40:33,210 --> 00:40:36,150 agreement, nobody does it. So the corporations have taken over 731 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:38,130 the media and no up here nothing. 732 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,150 So I had to I had this in a smaller version at MTV, it's 733 00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:47,040 like you could not say anything critical, bad or even make an 734 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,900 off colour joke about any artist whatsoever. The only people 735 00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:52,950 that's what's interesting 736 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:56,790 about that's what's interesting about the Lou Dobbs thing. It's 737 00:40:56,790 --> 00:41:01,770 actually his own company. Yeah, coming after him. Yeah, yeah. 738 00:41:01,770 --> 00:41:05,580 And when you see that, then you get really suspicious. Yeah. And 739 00:41:05,580 --> 00:41:09,690 that would be G. No, no, that's CNN time, life. Oh, time Time 740 00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:12,780 Warner. Time Warner, I'm sorry, Time Warner Time Life. I'm 741 00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:16,950 living in the past. He had Time Warner. They own CNN. And one of 742 00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:19,440 the pieces I saw against him was in time. 743 00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:24,330 So when I when I came when I came to MTV, so it was 1986 87. 744 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:28,080 And I hadn't even gone on the air yet. This was sort of the 745 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,750 first week I'm staying in a hotel I was supposed to go on to 746 00:41:30,750 --> 00:41:34,860 Halloween is when I did my first appearance on MTV. And so the 747 00:41:34,890 --> 00:41:38,100 and I had no I was very, I was young for 22 or whatever, but 748 00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:41,250 also very, very green in this type of corporate us 749 00:41:41,250 --> 00:41:44,340 environment. And they set me up with an interview with TV Guide, 750 00:41:44,730 --> 00:41:48,690 which of course, at the time, was the largest publication, you 751 00:41:48,690 --> 00:41:51,660 can't do much better than to have a full page even though 752 00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:55,440 it's small, but a full page and TV Guide. And the reporter was 753 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,230 asking me questions, and said, Well, have you ever met 754 00:41:58,230 --> 00:42:00,300 Madonna's yeah, I've met her a couple times, you know, back in 755 00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:03,270 the early 80s. And we did hash under a glass. I didn't say 756 00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:06,870 that. But I'm telling the no agenda audience. What do you 757 00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:08,310 think of it? Well, I didn't really like her. You know, I 758 00:42:08,310 --> 00:42:10,530 didn't think she was really nice. She wasn't a very nice 759 00:42:10,530 --> 00:42:17,520 person. Boy, did the shit hit the fan over that one. And the 760 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,790 press department hated me from that day on because I had ruined 761 00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:23,220 it. I had ruined their relationship with Madonna. And 762 00:42:23,220 --> 00:42:26,190 now she may never perform on the Video Music Awards again. Damn 763 00:42:26,190 --> 00:42:26,460 it. 764 00:42:28,110 --> 00:42:30,630 Yep. Yeah. Well, that's the way it is. 765 00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:34,890 Yeah, well, you know, the infamous Michael Jackson thing, 766 00:42:34,890 --> 00:42:39,720 right? No. Well, he was supposed to appear on the Video Music 767 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:43,590 Awards. At the you know, in his big heyday and we were doing a 768 00:42:43,590 --> 00:42:45,780 as typically do a promotion around that. So we had to the 769 00:42:45,780 --> 00:42:48,930 deal was we would debut his new video also get the exclusive if 770 00:42:48,930 --> 00:42:52,830 we did a Michael Jackson weekend. And we so an MTV is 771 00:42:52,830 --> 00:42:55,200 taped is not some some programmes are live but most of 772 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,070 them are tape. So on. We do is on Thursday, you taped for 773 00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:02,940 Saturday and Sunday. And on Friday, you tape for Monday. So 774 00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:06,420 on Thursday, we did what we call a 48. That meant a long day. And 775 00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:08,460 we did this whole weekend. It was the Michael Jackson weekend. 776 00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:12,810 We all had to come back Friday and retake the entire weekend 777 00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:16,770 because we did not specify as was agreed to with the Michael 778 00:43:16,770 --> 00:43:19,740 Jackson organisation. Every single time you said Michael 779 00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:22,890 Jackson had had to be followed by the words the King of Pop. 780 00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:27,360 That's hilarious. It was 781 00:43:27,420 --> 00:43:30,450 it was disgusting. So we all had to come back and we had to 782 00:43:30,450 --> 00:43:33,750 retake every single segment. And when it was Michael Jackson, the 783 00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:37,800 King of Pop, it was obligated. By contrast, you agreed to that 784 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,430 idiocy at probably an economist who later went on to run 785 00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:45,000 Maverick records for Madonna or maybe Judah McGrath. You know, 786 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,750 who knows? A whole bunch of people but that's how it worked. 787 00:43:48,750 --> 00:43:51,630 MTV was totally the record companies 788 00:43:51,660 --> 00:43:56,040 bitch. So meanwhile, you know, I did that reminds me of we when I 789 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:01,470 was doing silicon spin in years a decade ago. We were gonna get 790 00:44:01,470 --> 00:44:05,370 Richard Stallman on the open source dude. Open a free 791 00:44:05,370 --> 00:44:09,000 software basic free site. Yeah. So he wouldn't he you know, I 792 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,610 knew I've known I know the guy may have run into him a live 793 00:44:11,610 --> 00:44:14,070 chat with him. He's interesting. And he would have been a good 794 00:44:14,070 --> 00:44:18,120 guest because he he has things to say that are unique, but he 795 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:24,900 wouldn't do the show. In less. Anytime we refer to Linux, we 796 00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:31,380 had to say good new Linux. So we couldn't say Linux Yeah, Linux 797 00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:33,780 or anything like that. We'd have to be good GNU Linux and he 798 00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:36,120 wouldn't do the show unless we agreed to that. And you weren't 799 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,500 I tell him to screw himself. 800 00:44:37,530 --> 00:44:40,620 Yeah. Richard Stallman, the king of canoe. 801 00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:43,770 You know, he did 802 00:44:43,770 --> 00:44:45,600 writes Emacs, didn't he? Didn't he write Emacs? 803 00:44:45,630 --> 00:44:47,940 I don't know what he wrote anymore. I mean, he's mostly 804 00:44:47,940 --> 00:44:50,070 just a guy who complains a lot. 805 00:44:50,370 --> 00:44:51,210 I like him though. 806 00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:55,170 He's a sponsor. Most of the newest aspects of the GE general 807 00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:58,380 public licence and its owner is characteristics 808 00:44:58,410 --> 00:45:00,930 but still you need guys like that and Every industry you need 809 00:45:00,930 --> 00:45:02,820 colourful people like that it's important. 810 00:45:03,180 --> 00:45:05,760 Well, you know, I'm surprised that he's so picky about like, 811 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,640 you know, you don't see him on doing a lot of TV or anything, 812 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,460 because he's got all these requirements. He's like, he's 813 00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:14,520 like a diva. He's like somebody that thinks they're a Hollywood 814 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040 star, they can make all these demands, I'm surprised he's not 815 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,840 asking for special kinds of bottled 816 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,570 water. And maybe he is, 817 00:45:22,110 --> 00:45:25,410 and maybe is, we never got that far. I 818 00:45:25,830 --> 00:45:29,580 just sticking with the internet for a second. This is this, this 819 00:45:29,580 --> 00:45:33,420 story pops up from time to time and just the nouns what some 820 00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:35,520 numbers were put to it. And I have no idea if it's true, it 821 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,650 comes from the register, you know, your buddies over here, 822 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,570 which I kind of I must have been pretty high regard. That now the 823 00:45:42,570 --> 00:45:47,610 European Commission is pushing very hard to switch at least 25% 824 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,660 of the IP blocks that they either have indirect or direct 825 00:45:51,660 --> 00:45:56,370 control over to IP v six, because and here comes. They're 826 00:45:56,370 --> 00:46:01,890 saying that only 16% of the total IP v4 numbers remain 827 00:46:01,890 --> 00:46:08,610 available. That seems pretty low. That elusive John? 828 00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:12,090 No, I'm trying to think about this. Because my understanding 829 00:46:12,090 --> 00:46:16,920 was they were running out of IP for numbers like a decade ago. 830 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,130 And then when they came up with this idea of rotating numbers, 831 00:46:20,130 --> 00:46:22,470 you know, in other words, you go into one of the services and you 832 00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:25,950 don't have a number you get one. So you get assigned numbers as 833 00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:30,780 you as they're needed. That kind of staved off the problem with 834 00:46:30,780 --> 00:46:35,520 IP four in the limit a limited number of numbers, which you can 835 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,760 figure out by just looking at an IP address. It's like what? I 836 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,380 don't know. Anyway, the 837 00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:42,570 it's actually not even IP address, I think, isn't it the 838 00:46:42,570 --> 00:46:44,670 MAC addresses? Isn't it one level lower than 839 00:46:45,570 --> 00:46:51,570 the IP addresses or promises? What is the 73242424? So you 840 00:46:51,570 --> 00:46:56,580 have like one, two, you got? I guess there's 100 million, I 841 00:46:56,580 --> 00:46:58,140 guess possible, something like that. 842 00:46:58,980 --> 00:47:04,290 4.3 billion total IP, the four numbers remain available for 843 00:47:04,290 --> 00:47:09,990 16,000,000,016% of the 4.3 billion total? Yeah, 844 00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:11,340 let down. No, it's probably right. 845 00:47:11,730 --> 00:47:15,870 So Vivian Redding is the EU's combative Commissioner for 846 00:47:15,870 --> 00:47:19,200 information and society, which boy, I want that business card. 847 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,960 She says in the short term businesses and public 848 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,720 authorities might be tempted to try to squeeze their needs into 849 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,540 the straitjacket of the old system. But this would mean 850 00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:30,270 Europe is badly placed to take advantage of the latest internet 851 00:47:30,270 --> 00:47:33,180 technology and could face a crisis when the old system runs 852 00:47:33,180 --> 00:47:35,730 out of addresses and what this smells this smells like bullshit 853 00:47:35,730 --> 00:47:36,150 to me? 854 00:47:37,860 --> 00:47:39,960 Smells like it smells like it to me too. 855 00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:42,750 When you got to bullshit title like combative Commissioner for 856 00:47:42,750 --> 00:47:45,930 information and society. Either she's poorly informed, or 857 00:47:45,930 --> 00:47:47,190 there's some lobby behind it. 858 00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:52,860 Yeah, there's gotta be some some behind. Yeah, the Cisco. Can 859 00:47:52,860 --> 00:47:55,080 Cisco money and all the rest of these guys? I mean, where are 860 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,550 you? Where are you? You know, where are they gonna go? They 861 00:47:56,550 --> 00:47:58,620 get there. Do you know the older, everyone's got their 862 00:47:58,620 --> 00:48:01,410 routers and everything else. And now they got to go to IP six and 863 00:48:01,410 --> 00:48:04,710 have to breed? Equip everything. It'd be like it'd be worse than 864 00:48:04,740 --> 00:48:09,030 y2k in terms of like dropping all this money into the system. 865 00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:12,150 So yeah, it's got to be a router company, or all of them. 866 00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,730 The growth of the internet and China's router company soul 867 00:48:14,730 --> 00:48:17,460 group. It's just the growth of the internet in China and India 868 00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:24,750 is pressing the need to switch has to be done by 2010. Wow, 869 00:48:24,810 --> 00:48:27,360 I'll look into it. Yes, you're probably right doesn't 870 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,820 have to be done. But why does it have to be? What's the rush? 871 00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:32,190 Well, because we're running out 872 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,760 with the how many percentage word you said we're left 873 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,620 16 16% 16%. Okay, so let's see, the internet's been really 874 00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:44,640 inactive since about 1995, even though it goes back before that. 875 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,120 But with the web and all I think 9095 would be a good jumping off 876 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:55,710 point. So we're talking about in 1920, what 23 years. It's chewed 877 00:48:55,710 --> 00:48:58,830 up like 80% of the numbers and 23 years, how many is that 878 00:48:58,830 --> 00:49:02,430 percentage? On a year to year basis? Why would this thing all 879 00:49:02,430 --> 00:49:07,530 of a sudden show up? 16% in the next year, when it's only chewed 880 00:49:07,530 --> 00:49:13,260 up? 80% in 23 years? Does that make sense to anybody? No. 881 00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:14,760 Sounds like a scam. 882 00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:19,950 Cisco. I think you're right. I'll look into that. It's just 883 00:49:19,950 --> 00:49:21,810 stuff that I know it's just another trend. 884 00:49:25,740 --> 00:49:28,380 So 100 nations have reached an agreement on a treaty which 885 00:49:28,380 --> 00:49:31,200 would ban the current designs of cluster bombs. 886 00:49:31,439 --> 00:49:35,489 You know, this thing this kills me. This is all over the news in 887 00:49:35,939 --> 00:49:39,029 in Europe, and everyone's so proud. You know, it's like we've 888 00:49:39,029 --> 00:49:43,469 done a good thing here. I'm like, You got cluster bomb? What 889 00:49:43,469 --> 00:49:46,799 the hell is that we've got enough bombs and shit to nuke 890 00:49:46,799 --> 00:49:49,199 out the whole world and now we're all patting ourselves on 891 00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:52,949 the back because these inhumane bombs have been banned. What the 892 00:49:52,949 --> 00:49:53,999 hell is that? 893 00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:57,690 To have they banned landmines. 894 00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:01,710 No, of course not. Have they banned to any other kind of a 895 00:50:01,710 --> 00:50:05,910 cluster bombs you know all evening last night on the news 896 00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:09,090 here you see cluster bombs going off and it looks like reverse 897 00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:12,150 firecrackers right you know like reverse fireworks it drops and 898 00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:15,330 then you see boom boom boom boom all these little explosions 899 00:50:15,330 --> 00:50:19,560 within the area of where the bomb lets the Obama militia you 900 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,800 know it's like to hell Jake Yeah good stuff 901 00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:26,340 I'm looking at the BBC they get like pictures of how the cluster 902 00:50:26,340 --> 00:50:27,810 bomb were Russian 903 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,110 What's that such a big deal I don't get it is that is 904 00:50:31,110 --> 00:50:32,520 that cluster bomb week 905 00:50:32,550 --> 00:50:35,910 i That's right hey everybody is cluster bomb week 906 00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:40,320 congratulations you've got 35% off your milk in the supermarket 907 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,590 cluster bomb we you're right let's ban the landmines that 908 00:50:43,590 --> 00:50:46,740 would be a better start than cluster bombs landmines are 909 00:50:46,830 --> 00:50:50,430 killing children worldwide. On a 910 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,490 regular basis. Nobody no there's you know, at least these things 911 00:50:53,490 --> 00:50:55,830 when they go off, you're dead or you're not good. It's not like 912 00:50:55,830 --> 00:51:00,900 five years later by accident, you step on one. Whatever the 913 00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:05,280 case is, Britain's accused of cluster bones Britain bands, 914 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:10,950 dumb cluster bombs. We can only have the smart kind, tackling to 915 00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:14,880 Gica stands cluster bombs. Hezbollah denies cluster bomb 916 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,530 use, let it click cluster bombs in the news. I wonder why. I 917 00:51:19,530 --> 00:51:24,750 mean, when I start seeing, like a flurry of one story. I point 918 00:51:24,750 --> 00:51:26,700 this out when I do tech five, by the way. 919 00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:30,540 I know you do it all the time, which is a tech five Dagny 920 00:51:30,540 --> 00:51:34,440 veoh.com. And I have learned, here's how it works. And you 921 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,170 know, I'm doing this radio stuff over in. In the Netherlands. 922 00:51:37,170 --> 00:51:40,860 It's a very, very small country, very small community. But it's 923 00:51:40,860 --> 00:51:43,050 really made me first of all, it made me really sharp because I'm 924 00:51:43,050 --> 00:51:46,650 talking early every morning. But I'm taking a lot of what I've 925 00:51:46,650 --> 00:51:49,290 learned on this show and on daily source code, daily source 926 00:51:49,290 --> 00:51:52,950 code.com. And I'm applying that to a whole Thank you, I've 927 00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:57,120 learned that from you, John, I'm applying that to a yes to 928 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,510 Grasshopper, this time to snatch the pebbles from my hand. I'm 929 00:52:00,510 --> 00:52:04,020 applying this to, you know, to these formats. And what I'm 930 00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:08,010 seeing is that here's how it basically works. You the 931 00:52:08,010 --> 00:52:10,680 journalists of all the newspapers, what they do, and by 932 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,220 the way, RSS has been fantastic in this regard. They they 933 00:52:14,250 --> 00:52:18,360 subscribe or they they visit the European Union website. In this 934 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,410 case, it would be like the Dutch, the Dutch government 935 00:52:22,410 --> 00:52:26,970 website, and they have all these huge commitments to publish 936 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,720 everything. So everything you can imagine is online. And at 937 00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:35,040 the EU website, everything is online in you know, 26 different 938 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,610 languages. And so you know, so when these reports come out, or 939 00:52:38,610 --> 00:52:41,580 these initiatives, and then what happens is, you know, 940 00:52:41,610 --> 00:52:43,890 journalists will pick it up, you know, that's, that's their 941 00:52:43,890 --> 00:52:48,510 primary news source, they'll basically make an abstraction of 942 00:52:48,510 --> 00:52:51,720 whatever the story is, and then of course, gets copied by other 943 00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:54,240 things down the line and before it, and then it's the evening 944 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:57,210 news, but it all kind of stems from this stuff that is coming 945 00:52:57,210 --> 00:53:01,140 out on websites at the governmental level. And then 946 00:53:01,140 --> 00:53:04,650 it's just copy paste as far as I'm concerned. So I think that 947 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,620 that's the way the flow is these days, every single thing you see 948 00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:10,650 like these cluster bombs, I guarantee let me let me go to 949 00:53:10,650 --> 00:53:13,890 the EU website. I guarantee you there's like some initiative, 950 00:53:14,220 --> 00:53:17,520 some committee that came out with a report or something like 951 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,070 that, and then all of a sudden it's top of the news. 952 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,990 While you're doing that, I want to bring up another story that 953 00:53:24,990 --> 00:53:28,500 came out, which I kind of ended tech five with the other day 954 00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:31,380 even though I didn't go into any details, which seems to be 955 00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:36,240 another hot story. monkey's brain controls a robot arm 956 00:53:37,980 --> 00:53:41,340 monkeys have been able to control robotic limbs using only 957 00:53:41,340 --> 00:53:44,160 their thoughts scientists report 958 00:53:44,310 --> 00:53:47,340 well yeah, of course. And I'm sure we could do the same what 959 00:53:47,340 --> 00:53:47,760 we can 960 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:53,760 do how do you think you move your hand now? Oh, yeah. But 961 00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:59,460 this is a little more elaborate than that. I don't know. They 962 00:53:59,460 --> 00:54:03,540 got the probe is a probe in his brain or something it's like 963 00:54:03,540 --> 00:54:05,520 something disgusting about the stories 964 00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:13,200 okay, I'm at the it's europa.eu By the way if you want to go to 965 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:20,130 the European Union's website europa.eu And then you get to 966 00:54:20,130 --> 00:54:26,760 choose your I just did a search on cluster bombs or cluster bomb 967 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,640 41 matched see Commission's conflict prevention policy case 968 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,620 study you x Oh, and does 969 00:54:34,620 --> 00:54:37,320 look at all the languages they have to put on this menu. 970 00:54:37,410 --> 00:54:43,200 Yeah, it's a lot, isn't it? Well, yeah, it's the line 971 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,170 actions. I don't see anything off that 972 00:54:46,650 --> 00:54:50,730 dole site. Looks like it was done in like the late 90s. 973 00:54:50,940 --> 00:54:54,840 Well, yeah, that's when they started. The EU has been around 974 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:55,890 for a while, John. 975 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,990 Yeah, but they could upgrade this site. I mean, it looks like 976 00:54:57,990 --> 00:55:01,470 something from I've seen better. So It's in local they actually 977 00:55:01,470 --> 00:55:06,330 had this looks like something you'd find in a small Iowa town 978 00:55:06,990 --> 00:55:08,310 with a crate with a little 979 00:55:08,370 --> 00:55:12,300 Oh hold on go to the EU was fun. 980 00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:16,710 Oh, I see. Well I've got the one says Europe is fun 981 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:21,930 to spawn yet you get a little sound effect plays a set of 982 00:55:21,930 --> 00:55:28,800 brand new games on the Euro the hell was that? If you have the 983 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,290 Euro the Euro Kids Corner Yeah, you're hearing all the sounds 984 00:55:31,290 --> 00:55:36,450 now. Oh please stop. You're killing me was terrible. Yeah. 985 00:55:36,990 --> 00:55:39,930 Do you have one yellow one? Or is your one blue euro note? How 986 00:55:39,930 --> 00:55:43,350 many Euros Do you have? I don't know. 987 00:55:44,670 --> 00:55:47,160 A yellow note is 50. And what was the other one? 988 00:55:47,730 --> 00:55:51,390 An orange. Wait a minute orange, and a blue. 989 00:55:52,020 --> 00:55:54,660 Oh shit. Let me take a look. I've got what do I have here? I 990 00:55:54,660 --> 00:56:00,420 got some euros. So blue is 20 oranges. 50. What's the yellow? 991 00:56:01,140 --> 00:56:02,280 Red is 10 992 00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:05,820 What's the yellow is B 1000 Is something 993 00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:08,640 now there's no I don't think there's only a 500 note. By the 994 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,240 way, you can't spend anything over 50 euros in a shop anymore. 995 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,940 Why? Because of counterfeit. The shops will not accept 100 euro 996 00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:19,830 notes or the 500 for that matter. 997 00:56:21,570 --> 00:56:23,940 Because really, yeah, that those seeds are impossible to 998 00:56:23,940 --> 00:56:25,560 counterfeit. They're pretty elaborate. 999 00:56:25,740 --> 00:56:29,910 Oh, you'd be amazed this is new money you know there's there's a 1000 00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:33,420 lot of counterfeiting going on. New Money is always subject to 1001 00:56:33,420 --> 00:56:38,190 all kinds of counterfeit shit. So but I can't find anything 1002 00:56:38,190 --> 00:56:40,890 about cluster bombs right off the bat, unfortunately, but I'm 1003 00:56:40,890 --> 00:56:43,950 sure there's something there that it just it's just to 1004 00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:46,140 cluster bombs. 1005 00:56:47,310 --> 00:56:49,170 Or maybe the BBC is behind it all. 1006 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,720 No, no because I'm see I'm seeing the same thing in 1007 00:56:54,060 --> 00:56:57,690 Holland, Germany, Belgium, Belgium, by the way. I don't you 1008 00:56:57,690 --> 00:57:02,340 probably caught that. The Belgian Where the hell is it? 1009 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:03,810 Do we blogged 1010 00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:06,660 about that woman? No, no, no, not about that way that 1011 00:57:06,660 --> 00:57:12,450 what crazy, crazy terrorist, you know, promoting woman in 1012 00:57:12,450 --> 00:57:16,500 Belgium. We have a blog entry on her. And it's like the Belgians 1013 00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:19,260 and then the Belgians are suing the beaches are not suing 1014 00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:21,390 Google. That's the what I wanted. They're suing Google 1015 00:57:21,390 --> 00:57:24,900 because they because they're getting unwanted links. Yeah, 1016 00:57:25,050 --> 00:57:27,630 you know, people are going to their websites because a Google 1017 00:57:27,630 --> 00:57:29,940 and they don't want that they don't want anyone showing up 1018 00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:33,510 apparently. Why are they even on the internet? I complained about 1019 00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:37,110 this bitterly on the on the Wednesday tech five. 1020 00:57:39,150 --> 00:57:43,140 You know, look at Belgium has quite a number of problems of 1021 00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:44,040 its own John. 1022 00:57:44,820 --> 00:57:47,190 The fact that it's not a real country. And 1023 00:57:47,550 --> 00:57:50,340 right now that you know, there's well there's been a decade long 1024 00:57:50,340 --> 00:57:52,860 rift between the French speaking part and the Flemish speaking 1025 00:57:52,860 --> 00:57:55,830 part. And now they're really really splitting apart. In fact, 1026 00:57:55,830 --> 00:58:00,570 there was the Dutch even this is a story a couple of weeks ago 1027 00:58:00,570 --> 00:58:03,150 said that hey, why don't you you guys want to join back up with 1028 00:58:03,150 --> 00:58:04,530 us and you can be a part of us. 1029 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,140 To the Flemish Yeah. 1030 00:58:07,890 --> 00:58:09,300 And the Flemish said No, thanks. 1031 00:58:09,930 --> 00:58:13,500 Why not? I think that's a good idea. Well, why don't like the 1032 00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:14,010 Dutch. 1033 00:58:15,570 --> 00:58:18,450 I don't think they liked the way the Dutch country is being run. 1034 00:58:19,170 --> 00:58:19,830 Probably 1035 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,680 any conservative enough? 1036 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,590 You think there's a lot of animosity, you know, between 1037 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:26,760 between the two. So you think it's 1038 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,860 gonna do you think Belgium is gonna split in two? I don't 1039 00:58:28,860 --> 00:58:31,020 think the EU would put up with that. It's embarrassing. 1040 00:58:31,380 --> 00:58:34,800 I think well, it's effectively it kind of already is. Yeah, I 1041 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:40,710 think they're gonna split into Yeah, for sure. Not that anyone 1042 00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:45,630 cares, other than the fact that InBev is about to buy Budweiser. 1043 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:54,570 Did you know that? I'm sorry. InBev. I N v v is a huge beer 1044 00:58:54,570 --> 00:58:58,710 manufacturer. They own Stella Artois. They own Duvel they own 1045 00:58:58,710 --> 00:59:02,400 a whole bunch of Belgian beers. And now they're looking at I 1046 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,180 think a $50 billion acquisition of Anheuser Busch. 1047 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,210 You're kidding me? No, no, I haven't heard this. You're 1048 00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:10,380 shitting me, John. 1049 00:59:11,070 --> 00:59:14,550 Come on. Take a look. Take a look at I'm sure you can that'll 1050 00:59:14,550 --> 00:59:17,040 be a Google News. Hold on just do Anheuser Busch. 1051 00:59:19,260 --> 00:59:20,580 Wow, that's a big deal. 1052 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,620 That's not news in the States. 1053 00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:27,810 Actually. I think I would have noticed I mean, maybe it is but 1054 00:59:27,810 --> 00:59:30,990 not in. I'm not so I'm looking at Google News is not like any 1055 00:59:30,990 --> 00:59:35,490 headlined anywhere. I usually keep up with the beverage 1056 00:59:35,490 --> 00:59:40,620 industry. So you can see this $40 billion $50 billion Yep. 1057 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,920 Well, you know, the funny thing is a probably improved the beer. 1058 00:59:44,790 --> 00:59:46,260 Because I stopped making it with rice. 1059 00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:51,720 The one you know, I'm always reminded of the story I heard 1060 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:56,490 years and years ago when the German Brewer, I guess his 1061 00:59:56,490 --> 01:00:01,260 German that had low and brow and low and Brown was introduced to 1062 01:00:01,260 --> 01:00:04,410 the United States, as a as an important it was and it got 1063 01:00:04,410 --> 01:00:08,490 really popular. That takes us like in the late 70s, or 1064 01:00:08,910 --> 01:00:12,990 something like that. And so one of the Brewers I think was 1065 01:00:12,990 --> 01:00:15,990 either Miller or Budweiser, one of the two, probably Miller 1066 01:00:17,220 --> 01:00:21,690 decided to licence it, which happens a lot with quality 1067 01:00:21,690 --> 01:00:24,750 products from Europe, jumbo Navy, for example, if you buy in 1068 01:00:24,750 --> 01:00:28,350 the United States is not really made in France, it's made in the 1069 01:00:28,350 --> 01:00:31,620 Central Valley created under states anything like Dubeau 1070 01:00:31,620 --> 01:00:35,760 name, it's like Coca Cola. But Coca Cola at least sticks with 1071 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,460 pretty much the same formula. You can't do that with wine, 1072 01:00:38,490 --> 01:00:43,710 right? So anyway, so they, they decided that licence did low and 1073 01:00:43,710 --> 01:00:46,260 brow brand and we're gonna make it here. And so the loan route 1074 01:00:46,260 --> 01:00:50,520 people said to them, Well, would you like to, you know, work with 1075 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,430 our brew masters so you can get get it? So it's just the same? 1076 01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:57,240 And then the American company says, No, we know how to make 1077 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,020 beer. And that was the end of it. So what you ended up with 1078 01:01:01,020 --> 01:01:04,290 was just a bottle of American beer with a low morale label on 1079 01:01:04,290 --> 01:01:06,990 it and went in eventually just got taken. I never saw it after, 1080 01:01:06,990 --> 01:01:09,540 you know, after about five years of that crap. You know, people 1081 01:01:09,570 --> 01:01:12,000 say, What am I paying extra for? I should just buy the cheap 1082 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:12,450 stuff. 1083 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,240 So I think this deal will happen. And I'll tell you why. I 1084 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,240 know the Anheuser Busch company pretty well, they were one of 1085 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,720 our extract, they were our first client in our previous business. 1086 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:26,850 And we built budweiser.com did a whole bunch of stuff for them 1087 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,620 really quite a bit of work and, and worked with Woody and 1088 01:01:31,620 --> 01:01:36,630 Grinder as they're known, which would be Woody is Auguste Bush, 1089 01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:39,840 the fourth and grinders, the third. And before 1090 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,290 he go on, I did find the story. And the best headline is the 1091 01:01:43,290 --> 01:01:48,060 following Budweiser to be remarketed, as a paint remover. 1092 01:01:50,550 --> 01:01:51,210 Anyway, go ahead. 1093 01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:56,940 So I spoke to my buddy over there, we were starting up nibio 1094 01:01:56,940 --> 01:02:00,450 At the time pod show, when we actually got a nice note from 1095 01:02:00,450 --> 01:02:03,570 the Robert McCauley, who was our guy, our main contact at the 1096 01:02:03,570 --> 01:02:05,310 time, he's moved up and in a different part of the 1097 01:02:05,310 --> 01:02:07,410 organisation. He was really running a lot of the marketing. 1098 01:02:07,830 --> 01:02:10,200 And he said, you know, this was before they launched that, that 1099 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:15,120 failed project, Bud TV. And he said, you know, we're really in 1100 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,490 trouble. Well, he didn't actually say in trouble, and I 1101 01:02:17,490 --> 01:02:20,580 don't want to get him in trouble for saying what he said. But it 1102 01:02:20,580 --> 01:02:24,330 was clear what he was getting at because of all these Alko pops. 1103 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,660 It's just not cool anymore to drink beer. If you go look at 1104 01:02:27,660 --> 01:02:30,150 their sales go look at their stock price. I think it's 1105 01:02:30,180 --> 01:02:32,280 absolutely the right time for it. I don't know if the price is 1106 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,170 right, but I think it's the right time for them to sell 1107 01:02:34,170 --> 01:02:37,590 because the beer market in general is just not as cool for 1108 01:02:37,590 --> 01:02:41,010 young kids anymore to drink beer. It's all about you know, 1109 01:02:41,010 --> 01:02:45,360 the Bacardi Breezers and you know all these vodka drinks and 1110 01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:47,880 that's what kids are turned on to is no longer beer. 1111 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:54,210 David Prosser is outlook in the independent says his den that 1112 01:02:54,210 --> 01:02:59,760 ran on May 29, which is Thursday. Do not pay to eat he 1113 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,170 thinks the whole thing is a crock. 1114 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,520 Just to maybe the pump up the stock price. Now this 1115 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:10,500 bukem says InBev might like the idea of spooking Anheuser with 1116 01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:13,110 talk of a deal to leave the Budweiser on out in the cold. 1117 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,080 This is another word for them to do something they're going to 1118 01:03:16,110 --> 01:03:18,720 buy anhydrous you're better now. It's just a very interesting 1119 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,300 story. But it sounds like it's not going to happen from his 1120 01:03:21,300 --> 01:03:24,120 perspective. But as it is a speculation is an interesting 1121 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:24,600 idea. 1122 01:03:25,290 --> 01:03:28,470 What's amazes me is that this isn't all over the US press. 1123 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:29,190 It's like 1124 01:03:29,220 --> 01:03:32,040 I you know I'm just telling you. The thing is it is it apparently 1125 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,800 is because I'm looking at the I think it's just buried though. 1126 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,850 But I'm looking at all most of these are international 1127 01:03:38,850 --> 01:03:41,520 articles, but the number of articles that show up on the 1128 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:49,290 Google News site 791 redundant articles about this. So this it 1129 01:03:49,290 --> 01:03:52,080 is floating around but I did hear Chicago Tribune has a story 1130 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,760 on it. And let's see, and it's just full and here's the image 1131 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,680 that is downplayed. It just ran today on March 29. Flat beer 1132 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,560 sales lead, which in other words is just now starting to be 1133 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,950 picked up, which is a little late in the game. And highs are 1134 01:04:07,950 --> 01:04:12,210 dumb sorry, flat beer sales lead to talk of mergers. Anheuser 1135 01:04:12,210 --> 01:04:15,240 Busch faces pressure it is just a boring story doesn't only have 1136 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,600 it you know, slow growth of beer market and beer in key markets 1137 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,020 coupled with an insatiable need to slash costs is sparking 1138 01:04:22,020 --> 01:04:26,250 speculation about a new wave of brewing industry consolidation. 1139 01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:31,440 Blah, blah, blah. So no, it's not. It's not a big story here. 1140 01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:33,870 It's the wave of the future consolidation. 1141 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,410 Yeah, what is the big my favourite company in that regard 1142 01:04:37,410 --> 01:04:42,570 is got the right name constellation. The big alcohol 1143 01:04:42,570 --> 01:04:43,470 company. Yeah. 1144 01:04:43,860 --> 01:04:46,530 Well, the other big one over here, of course, is Diageo. They 1145 01:04:46,530 --> 01:04:52,290 own know, a lot of the spirits their UK company. 1146 01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:59,040 This is an interesting article, actually, it's, McGann is Pooh 1147 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,370 poohing the concept. Now I hate to say that sorry. I like I like 1148 01:05:02,370 --> 01:05:03,450 it when you say poo poo. I'm 1149 01:05:03,450 --> 01:05:05,190 okay with that. Yeah, no, 1150 01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:09,930 but I kind of tried to cut it back because of the complaints. 1151 01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:14,790 So But anyway, this guy is throwing a wet blanket on the 1152 01:05:14,790 --> 01:05:15,840 story. Let's put it that way. 1153 01:05:15,930 --> 01:05:18,450 Yeah, there was a really good conversation on twit last week 1154 01:05:18,450 --> 01:05:20,580 we I listened to that religiously. It was one of the 1155 01:05:20,580 --> 01:05:21,780 best shows I've ever heard 1156 01:05:21,780 --> 01:05:24,960 and just listened to it because you complain. You thought that 1157 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,110 last week's show was one of the best I really enjoyed that show. 1158 01:05:28,110 --> 01:05:29,850 Yeah, the one with Brewster. 1159 01:05:29,970 --> 01:05:34,020 I liked the orphan copyrights. Yeah, I thought that was the 1160 01:05:34,020 --> 01:05:36,510 interesting part of it. But of course was it was a letter he 1161 01:05:36,510 --> 01:05:39,570 got the ball. Yeah, that was interesting. It was interesting. 1162 01:05:39,570 --> 01:05:39,930 That was, 1163 01:05:40,110 --> 01:05:43,440 well I admire him. I mean, I've known him for a while. But I 1164 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,710 admire him for sticking up for the you know, most of us I 1165 01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:48,840 think, you know, in this situation. So what do you need, 1166 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,780 you know, you give them the guys knew whatever it was some guy's 1167 01:05:51,780 --> 01:05:55,440 name. I'd be interested in you know, I figured out who it was, 1168 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,070 by the way, though rarely am curry guy up in Iowa, 1169 01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:02,160 Nebraska. Nebraska. That guy, 1170 01:06:03,690 --> 01:06:05,910 though here's, here's, here's what I've been interested in. 1171 01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:09,810 And maybe you can ask Leo did what kind of a What kind of 1172 01:06:09,810 --> 01:06:12,750 reaction did he get to last week show in comparison to other 1173 01:06:12,750 --> 01:06:16,320 ones? And or was it listened to more or downloaded more? Because 1174 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,010 I'll bet you that it had a much lower rating with the typical 1175 01:06:20,010 --> 01:06:22,650 twit audience because, you know, I think people really tune into 1176 01:06:22,650 --> 01:06:25,170 that to hear kind of the gossipy 1177 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,350 news and news tech news. 1178 01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:33,030 Well, it's like no, I'm sure like the Jason Calacanis shows 1179 01:06:33,030 --> 01:06:35,850 are the ones that ever will well that was a fantastic show and 1180 01:06:36,420 --> 01:06:38,850 actually when you get I think it's when Kevin Rose comes on 1181 01:06:38,850 --> 01:06:40,680 the show you really get the you get the dig 1182 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:45,780 audience Sure. Yeah. I Kevin Rose pretty smart guy. He's 1183 01:06:45,780 --> 01:06:49,290 pretty intelius Yeah. Anyway, I just want to say I thought that 1184 01:06:49,290 --> 01:06:51,780 was a good show you didn't mention me That's too bad. 1185 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,150 I'm sorry about that. You're now you're acting like Bubba 1186 01:07:01,170 --> 01:07:04,440 and I love it how Leo always always and I'm sure he's doing 1187 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,960 this on purpose always mispronounce his all your shows. 1188 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,480 So you've got the take five and you've got this 1189 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,540 right. Yeah. Take five don't mind. 1190 01:07:13,860 --> 01:07:16,650 Of course he's doing it on purpose is fucking me. Oh, man. 1191 01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:19,860 It's what happens when you do 25 hours a week of stuff. You start 1192 01:07:20,340 --> 01:07:21,570 to talk gibberish. 1193 01:07:23,070 --> 01:07:24,360 He's doing too much work. 1194 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,050 I think so. As you started those video things yet. I'm waiting 1195 01:07:28,050 --> 01:07:29,940 for that to happen. I'm so curious to 1196 01:07:29,940 --> 01:07:32,790 see really boy you need to see. So go watch the Chris Pirillo 1197 01:07:32,790 --> 01:07:33,990 show, that's what I recommend. 1198 01:07:34,140 --> 01:07:36,840 Because that's gonna be Chris Pirillo. Only with Leo, 1199 01:07:37,770 --> 01:07:40,200 essentially, I mean, it's like, you know, Chris, sitting at the 1200 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,920 computer, just there he is he still there as he moved now. 1201 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,250 Yeah, he's typing something. Okay, I'm noticing. If you look 1202 01:07:47,250 --> 01:07:50,160 at the screen, it says there's 300 people watching you go, why? 1203 01:07:51,180 --> 01:07:54,840 Exactly. So I'm seeing this trend, this whole Ustream trend, 1204 01:07:55,140 --> 01:07:57,840 which is more and you know, and it's in conjunction with 1205 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,810 Twitter. And so I'll see you like, you know, hey, I'm 1206 01:08:00,810 --> 01:08:05,070 streaming live, you know, I'm streaming live and like, Who 1207 01:08:05,130 --> 01:08:06,780 gives a shit? 1208 01:08:07,830 --> 01:08:10,380 I've watched these things. Every once in a while you see it on 1209 01:08:10,380 --> 01:08:12,960 Twitter. Somebody says, I'm gonna I'm streaming live and I 1210 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,750 have a link and it's the link to one of these streaming things 1211 01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:20,670 comes off of a phone and get Kelly Lewis did one in Texas and 1212 01:08:20,670 --> 01:08:24,090 she says we're having a meeting of some sort of a meet up, as 1213 01:08:24,090 --> 01:08:28,770 they like to say, a meet up or a mash up or whatever of WordPress 1214 01:08:28,770 --> 01:08:33,990 users in some, I guess it was like a barbecue place in Texas. 1215 01:08:34,620 --> 01:08:38,280 And so I clicked on it, and it's just a bunch of guys sitting 1216 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,070 around a table with their computers Oh, meeting up, 1217 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,640 they're meeting up they're not doing anything for a contest. 1218 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:49,080 They're just trying to liven it up by floating around you know 1219 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,740 saying stuff to them and they're like nonplussed about it this 1220 01:08:52,740 --> 01:08:53,280 stuff is 1221 01:08:53,370 --> 01:08:57,570 is ruining things there's this this this this is this is blog 1222 01:08:57,570 --> 01:09:00,930 is called girl with a one track mind look at a girl with a one 1223 01:09:00,930 --> 01:09:07,290 track mind.com And this girl was writing on her blog for several 1224 01:09:07,290 --> 01:09:11,730 years, every single one of her sexual experiences and we really 1225 01:09:11,730 --> 01:09:16,590 in graphic detail, but not in a in an in a in a dirty way. But 1226 01:09:16,590 --> 01:09:19,140 really from her perspective, and she's kind of like a guy you 1227 01:09:19,140 --> 01:09:22,890 know, just wants to fuck all the time. And she got outed because 1228 01:09:22,890 --> 01:09:26,370 you wrote a book. Yeah, her blog was published as a book, big 1229 01:09:26,370 --> 01:09:28,200 head here in the UK. I'm not quite sure how it did in the 1230 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,500 States. And so she kind of got outed and everyone figured out 1231 01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:34,140 what her real name was. Now when I followed her blog I thought it 1232 01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:37,500 was really fascinating to read. And now she's kind of fallen 1233 01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:40,620 into this so it's like well I'm doing a photo shoot tomorrow 1234 01:09:40,620 --> 01:09:42,960 I'll be streaming it through quick and make sure you check it 1235 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:47,070 unlike stop your fucking ruining it does write about sex again 1236 01:09:47,070 --> 01:09:48,540 I'm not interested. 1237 01:09:50,850 --> 01:09:54,960 Ruin so girl with a one track mind.com comes up as a Parker 1238 01:09:54,960 --> 01:10:00,450 site now hold on. So it has to be something else. I'm 1239 01:10:02,220 --> 01:10:06,810 looking at Abby Lee I think is her pseudonym Abby Lee see if 1240 01:10:06,810 --> 01:10:08,190 subscribe to it so 1241 01:10:08,610 --> 01:10:14,520 but you're like a fan fan boy fan boy Adam Yeah yeah Abby Lee 1242 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:19,860 girl with I'll give it the whole do the Google thing 1243 01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:24,930 I thought it was grow maybe it's dot co.uk Maybe that's why I'm 1244 01:10:24,930 --> 01:10:32,700 messing it up grow the one track my shares should be grow the one 1245 01:10:33,570 --> 01:10:35,130 grow the one track mind.com 1246 01:10:35,250 --> 01:10:38,760 on well it's not specific it's a pipe they're wrong let me go 1247 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:43,170 look at my subscriptions which of course is I don't see it 1248 01:10:43,170 --> 01:10:48,720 coming up anywhere Well the one is love reading.co.uk She's got 1249 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:49,500 that site 1250 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,610 Okay, hold on John. I'm gonna find this 1251 01:10:58,500 --> 01:10:59,250 one 1252 01:10:59,490 --> 01:11:01,890 track not just about her book. 1253 01:11:02,910 --> 01:11:06,660 Hold on I'll get it for you. This is a thing with it's almost 1254 01:11:06,660 --> 01:11:09,540 like you don't know any phone numbers anymore because 1255 01:11:10,170 --> 01:11:13,860 girl with a one track mind.blogspot.com 1256 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:19,110 Crap. Okay, that's it. Yeah, there you go girl with a one 1257 01:11:19,110 --> 01:11:21,600 track mind. Yeah. dot blogspot 1258 01:11:21,630 --> 01:11:23,850 areas. Here's what you're complaining about Tuesday, May 1259 01:11:23,850 --> 01:11:27,990 27. I thought it might be fun to try live streaming some video 1260 01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:31,500 clips to explore what goes on behind the scenes that my photo 1261 01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:35,580 shoot today. I'm off there shortly. Follow me on Twitter 1262 01:11:35,910 --> 01:11:39,180 for updates or bookmark Mike Quick. She's like got all caught 1263 01:11:39,180 --> 01:11:40,110 up in this crap. 1264 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,440 I'm telling and she's in Second Life as she has an avatar and 1265 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:47,400 she's doing and actually, I'm just looking at the I'm going 1266 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:53,460 back to October. Going back to October now almost. And a white. 1267 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:58,980 Okay, so the one was, alright, march 11 of 2008. You know, this 1268 01:11:58,980 --> 01:12:01,380 is from South by Southwest, which is another thing that's 1269 01:12:01,380 --> 01:12:04,350 ruining everything. You know how you're at the tumbler party, 1270 01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:07,470 drunkenly caning the free whiskey like there's no tomorrow 1271 01:12:07,470 --> 01:12:10,680 and then a six sexy Geek Boy sits down and starts chatting to 1272 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,890 you. And before you know it, your legs are up in the air like 1273 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,650 so that's, you know, that's the last sexy thing she talked 1274 01:12:16,650 --> 01:12:19,500 about, you know, and now it's just all this blah, blah, blah, 1275 01:12:19,500 --> 01:12:23,130 I'm streaming come look at me. It's ruining everything. It 1276 01:12:23,130 --> 01:12:27,720 really is. For you know what I mean? Look, I mean, I'm just 1277 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,690 giving you one example. Right. But this is this is rampant. And 1278 01:12:30,810 --> 01:12:32,730 I don't understand these companies are clearly going to 1279 01:12:32,730 --> 01:12:35,220 go out of business. I mean, there's no no business model 1280 01:12:35,220 --> 01:12:37,500 unless that you know, people have to pay for it. I don't see 1281 01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:38,970 how that's sustainable at all. 1282 01:12:39,210 --> 01:12:42,420 So last time, I had Scoble on the cranky geek show cranky 1283 01:12:42,420 --> 01:12:46,590 geeks.com. He comes on and first thing he does is he sticks. He 1284 01:12:46,590 --> 01:12:50,130 sticks his phone in my face and tells me he's streaming. Right? 1285 01:12:50,190 --> 01:12:53,010 Well, and I'm thinking yeah, well, that might be but and it 1286 01:12:53,010 --> 01:12:56,190 is probably like, it's just annoying. Because one thing is 1287 01:12:56,190 --> 01:12:59,280 you should ask anyways, like rude to be streaming somebody. 1288 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,910 But the other thing is, who the heck is watching it anyway? That 1289 01:13:02,910 --> 01:13:05,490 five people five really bored guy? 1290 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,660 I mean, 500, maybe 1000? Maybe 2000. But still, I mean, what is 1291 01:13:09,660 --> 01:13:13,170 the value of that? It's just, you know, it's reducing our 1292 01:13:13,170 --> 01:13:16,200 productivity as an economy as far as I'm concerned? 1293 01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:19,380 Well, I think there's something wrong with 1294 01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:24,000 me all the time, Hey, man, you should put up a Ustream feed of 1295 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,670 when you do the daily source code, like daily source 1296 01:13:26,670 --> 01:13:31,110 code.com, you don't understand, this is all about theatre of the 1297 01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:33,480 mind, I want you to think that I'm in you know, I want you to 1298 01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:36,180 imagine where I am, I don't want you to actually see the frickin 1299 01:13:36,180 --> 01:13:39,060 piece of metal sticking out of my face that I'm talking into. 1300 01:13:39,060 --> 01:13:42,810 That's not cool. You know, it's about the soundscape. It's about 1301 01:13:43,050 --> 01:13:47,340 the imagination. And you know, and, in fact, my dad used to 1302 01:13:47,340 --> 01:13:52,830 tell me the story about his his father, my grandfather, took him 1303 01:13:52,890 --> 01:13:56,610 to see one of these radio plays when he was a kid took him to 1304 01:13:56,610 --> 01:13:59,880 the radio station. And it was Neil Green Hornet, or whatever 1305 01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,970 the hell it was. And he said he, he never got over the 1306 01:14:02,970 --> 01:14:06,000 disappointment of seeing how that was put together, because 1307 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,420 he had this whole thing in his mind about, you know, the actors 1308 01:14:09,420 --> 01:14:12,150 and the situations and the scenarios. And it was just a 1309 01:14:12,150 --> 01:14:15,360 bunch of ugly guys stand in front of mics, banging on pots 1310 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:16,140 and pans. 1311 01:14:16,620 --> 01:14:19,560 Yeah, no, I know. In fact, you stared at our movies of those. 1312 01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:23,580 Many of those productions. But the weird thing to me about that 1313 01:14:23,580 --> 01:14:27,840 the radio play, which are available in download a lot of 1314 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,830 them under usually, the key word by the way that you want to look 1315 01:14:31,830 --> 01:14:36,210 for if you're going to try to download stuff is ot R, which is 1316 01:14:36,210 --> 01:14:38,730 the it's not a word. It's a it's a three letters, and it means 1317 01:14:38,730 --> 01:14:42,930 old time radio, right? And you can find a lot of stuff. If you 1318 01:14:42,930 --> 01:14:45,420 Google something and then type O TR, and I 1319 01:14:45,780 --> 01:14:49,680 just put a little plug in here. If you go to vvo.com right there 1320 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,280 on the homepage, you'll see the old time radio network, which is 1321 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,610 guy named Dennis puts together and it's it's just collections 1322 01:14:56,610 --> 01:14:58,560 and collections of CDs, a 1323 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,980 lot of there's a lot of good stuff. They're, and I'll second 1324 01:15:01,980 --> 01:15:05,040 that. But anyway, they would show these things. And they in 1325 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,220 these these, these shows, many of them would have an audience 1326 01:15:08,460 --> 01:15:10,860 that would like what your apparently your grandfather was 1327 01:15:10,860 --> 01:15:14,700 watching, and then they would pack them in. But it's just like 1328 01:15:14,700 --> 01:15:17,010 why I mean, it's just like there's no action. It's just 1329 01:15:17,010 --> 01:15:20,250 all, you know, just people going up to microphones and reading 1330 01:15:20,250 --> 01:15:22,530 usually had a sheet of paper in their hands. It's not like they 1331 01:15:22,530 --> 01:15:26,730 even memorise these lines. They were just good at reading. Yeah. 1332 01:15:26,910 --> 01:15:30,480 And I don't know, I guess it was entertaining at the time. Well, 1333 01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:30,810 this kind 1334 01:15:30,810 --> 01:15:33,750 of brings me to another rant that I'm on, because I'm just 1335 01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:38,160 really noticing it, you know, this. This, I call it I wrote a 1336 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,340 blog post about this 100 years ago, which is probably no longer 1337 01:15:41,340 --> 01:15:43,770 on a server probably confined on the wayback machine called the 1338 01:15:43,770 --> 01:15:47,130 copy paste culture. And, and, you know, I get a lot of 1339 01:15:47,130 --> 01:15:50,190 comments from people voicemail comments that I play on my show. 1340 01:15:50,580 --> 01:15:54,420 And what happens is, you know, people will read it, this is 1341 01:15:54,420 --> 01:15:56,580 what the internet has become, as far as I'm concerned, people 1342 01:15:56,580 --> 01:15:59,700 read an article that's online, of course, you know, what the 1343 01:15:59,700 --> 01:16:02,460 sourcing of the article is, is probably dubious to start with. 1344 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,630 And then people just start commenting on it in their blogs. 1345 01:16:06,660 --> 01:16:09,780 And it just propagates on and on and on and becomes a game of 1346 01:16:09,780 --> 01:16:13,350 telephone and becomes completely worthless shit. And things 1347 01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:17,280 become truth. At the end of the day, it's it's bad when we're 1348 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,570 not being very responsible. One way or the other is just pissing 1349 01:16:21,570 --> 01:16:22,200 me off. 1350 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,190 Well, it sounds like it's been pissing you off for a while. The 1351 01:16:26,220 --> 01:16:28,890 it's just yeah, there were things are, you know, it's it's 1352 01:16:28,890 --> 01:16:31,950 a It's all new. You know, this is not do we, you know, 1353 01:16:31,950 --> 01:16:34,200 Gutenberg was around for a long time before they figured out how 1354 01:16:34,260 --> 01:16:37,650 to make books work, you know, besides just the Bible, I mean, 1355 01:16:37,950 --> 01:16:41,070 what are we selling originally, but, you know, the publishing 1356 01:16:41,070 --> 01:16:46,110 business didn't really begin right away. It was, you know, so 1357 01:16:46,110 --> 01:16:48,780 we just never was just playing around. But I have to say, some 1358 01:16:48,780 --> 01:16:52,710 of these things are duds, or bad ideas or dead ends right from 1359 01:16:52,710 --> 01:16:56,370 the get go. And I would say this streaming, everything you do 1360 01:16:56,370 --> 01:16:59,790 from your cell phone is one of them. It's just this, it's like, 1361 01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,350 you know, I don't need this. 1362 01:17:01,710 --> 01:17:04,470 But of course, it's in ways it's kind of training wheels for 1363 01:17:04,470 --> 01:17:07,320 something else, I do think that we'll be able to that there are 1364 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,470 things that this can be useful for. I'm not quite sure what 1365 01:17:10,470 --> 01:17:14,130 yet. And maybe I'm wrong. But this is all just trying stuff 1366 01:17:14,130 --> 01:17:16,110 out. All of this stuff is this Twitter, like 1367 01:17:17,190 --> 01:17:22,320 this thing on the blog, which I've done a number of. I started 1368 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,500 doing it with the rollout of the iPhone wishes call it but just a 1369 01:17:25,500 --> 01:17:28,140 walk through, I'd have these little cameras that I have these 1370 01:17:28,140 --> 01:17:32,760 little Kodak's is 705, or seven or three or whatever they are. 1371 01:17:32,970 --> 01:17:35,940 Anyway, they're just little bitty cameras that have really 1372 01:17:35,940 --> 01:17:38,760 good video and a good microphone, but they look like a 1373 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,210 little bitty just a little dinky camera. They don't look like a 1374 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,820 video camera at all the flip. Is that what you're talking about? 1375 01:17:44,850 --> 01:17:48,990 Like the flip? No, no, it's not. So the dual dual lens ones. But 1376 01:17:48,990 --> 01:17:52,950 anyway, the thing is, I turn the video recorder on and then I'll 1377 01:17:52,980 --> 01:17:56,430 just go wandering, I'll walk with it. And then I'll just do 1378 01:17:56,430 --> 01:18:00,990 some scene like a trade show or down an aisle or something is 1379 01:18:01,020 --> 01:18:05,460 shoot about two to three minutes of this just walking around. And 1380 01:18:05,460 --> 01:18:08,850 I get a lot of positive comments. I got did one on Korea 1381 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,810 recently, I just walked down some street and curry up to some 1382 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,330 place that somebody mentioned was where all the hookers were. 1383 01:18:15,330 --> 01:18:20,460 And I kind of missed that. And, and it's just like, they're just 1384 01:18:20,460 --> 01:18:22,710 actually sent I look at it myself, I go, that's kind of 1385 01:18:22,710 --> 01:18:26,100 interesting, because you get kind of a feeling for the place 1386 01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:33,060 and it's slightly educational. So I mean, I don't know, I just 1387 01:18:33,090 --> 01:18:37,920 saw there's something to some of this, you know, kind of content 1388 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,890 Lester's who wouldn't say it's content less, but it's, it's 1389 01:18:40,890 --> 01:18:44,280 just kind of random video. The ones I don't like, it's just 1390 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,590 where you just there's nothing really interesting. I mean, I've 1391 01:18:46,590 --> 01:18:49,200 done a lot of these things. I don't post every one of them. 1392 01:18:49,500 --> 01:18:52,410 Because most of them aren't very good. And and the problem with 1393 01:18:52,410 --> 01:18:55,500 these things like quick is that, you know, there's you put you 1394 01:18:55,500 --> 01:18:59,880 start to think of it as doing a live stream. You're, it's gonna 1395 01:18:59,940 --> 01:19:03,570 you know, as you don't have that you can edit it. So I don't 1396 01:19:03,570 --> 01:19:04,110 know, I think 1397 01:19:04,110 --> 01:19:05,940 that's what you're what you're saying. Well, you're saying 1398 01:19:05,940 --> 01:19:08,880 they're like this little quick bits of of Korea so that can 1399 01:19:08,910 --> 01:19:11,280 that comes back to something we talked about last week, which by 1400 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,500 the way, a lot of people misunderstood I got so much 1401 01:19:13,530 --> 01:19:16,470 email from people saying that we're idiots and that all this 1402 01:19:16,470 --> 01:19:19,950 stuff already exists. What we actually were specking out as a 1403 01:19:19,950 --> 01:19:23,100 system was not quite the same as Oh, I have a camera that can 1404 01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:27,240 geotag pictures yet da, you know, I know that's out there. 1405 01:19:27,450 --> 01:19:31,890 But the idea that I could be in Korea, and I could pick up or I 1406 01:19:31,890 --> 01:19:36,090 could not be in Korea, I could plan a trip I'm gonna make and I 1407 01:19:36,090 --> 01:19:39,540 could then from somewhere in the magical cloud, pick up some of 1408 01:19:39,540 --> 01:19:42,870 your videos. You know, that would be interesting. If we had 1409 01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:44,430 stuff geotag like that, 1410 01:19:45,330 --> 01:19:47,700 right? Yeah. Because you would know where you were and all this 1411 01:19:47,700 --> 01:19:51,420 other stuff. So you got complaints about what? I didn't 1412 01:19:51,420 --> 01:19:55,560 get any email? No, I got your audiences different in mind. 1413 01:19:55,710 --> 01:19:56,550 Thank God. 1414 01:19:57,420 --> 01:20:00,240 So what did they say to you? What did your crazy audiences A 1415 01:20:00,300 --> 01:20:00,780 oh well 1416 01:20:00,780 --> 01:20:05,520 you know what what rocker you guys live in under? This has 1417 01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,070 been around for years you know you don't have to wait around 1418 01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:10,350 for years. Well they misunderstood they think that 1419 01:20:10,350 --> 01:20:10,500 we've 1420 01:20:10,740 --> 01:20:14,940 been around for years GPS chips inside cameras what camera has 1421 01:20:14,940 --> 01:20:15,270 that 1422 01:20:15,330 --> 01:20:19,680 and now geo tagging the geo tagging. We're talking about GPS 1423 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,130 inside the cameras when you take a picture, you get the geo 1424 01:20:23,130 --> 01:20:25,680 tagging built into the into the file 1425 01:20:25,890 --> 01:20:30,750 that's been around for at least two years. What myself Microsoft 1426 01:20:31,860 --> 01:20:32,490 mobile phone 1427 01:20:32,490 --> 01:20:35,610 what camera can I go by right now that's a cheap little camera 1428 01:20:35,610 --> 01:20:39,060 I can take movies with and look normal that has that GPS built 1429 01:20:39,060 --> 01:20:39,780 into a camera 1430 01:20:39,780 --> 01:20:43,740 or cell phone camera. Oh, I know I'm talking about cell phones 1431 01:20:43,740 --> 01:20:44,670 with cameras. 1432 01:20:44,940 --> 01:20:49,050 We were talking about cameras when we're talking about GPS. I 1433 01:20:49,050 --> 01:20:51,120 mean, I don't want to go to Korea and take a bunch of 1434 01:20:51,210 --> 01:20:54,300 pictures with a cell phone. I mean, I want to take I bring a 1435 01:20:54,300 --> 01:20:58,710 good camera with a good lens and I shoot pictures that are you 1436 01:20:58,710 --> 01:21:01,590 know, professional grade in terms of at least the megapixels 1437 01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:05,970 and the quality going around Europe or anywhere for that 1438 01:21:05,970 --> 01:21:08,940 matter and taking pictures with my cell phone like an idiot. 1439 01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,210 Yeah, maybe there's some GPS stuff in some cell phones and 1440 01:21:12,210 --> 01:21:14,790 there is but that's not what we're talking about. I'm talking 1441 01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:18,600 about having my collection of good photos being geotagged 1442 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,320 automatically with the GPS built into the camera that's was the 1443 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:23,580 premise of the discussion 1444 01:21:23,610 --> 01:21:26,940 right even I misunderstood it then there are there are cameras 1445 01:21:26,940 --> 01:21:30,060 with GPS but their high end their high end stuff there's 1446 01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:36,510 nothing really cheap there are a couple Rico has a has one. I 1447 01:21:36,510 --> 01:21:40,890 think Canon has one but those are more high end than not 1448 01:21:40,890 --> 01:21:43,440 they're not cheap, cheap cameras. But of course you know 1449 01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:46,200 a lot of these I have to say a lot of these cell phones now you 1450 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,450 know they got five megapixel cameras yeah 1451 01:21:48,450 --> 01:21:51,360 but it's still it there's no zoom lands you can't you know, 1452 01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,300 it doesn't have any kind of really fancy processing in it. 1453 01:21:54,660 --> 01:21:58,200 The quality of the pictures are always mediocre. I mean, if you 1454 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:03,570 want to make a you know, Wall precise print, you know by 1455 01:22:03,870 --> 01:22:08,280 doubling the lines with some software to get a big printout 1456 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,740 of it you can't do it I mean it's not going to look very 1457 01:22:10,740 --> 01:22:14,220 good. Let me know depth of field there's no contrast. I mean, 1458 01:22:14,220 --> 01:22:15,570 this is a joke. 1459 01:22:15,930 --> 01:22:20,610 Let me look at my my Gmail. Let me see if I can find some of 1460 01:22:20,610 --> 01:22:29,310 that. Probably not. GPS camera. I must say that 10 or 15 emails 1461 01:22:29,310 --> 01:22:30,090 that doesn't matter. 1462 01:22:31,020 --> 01:22:33,540 I just think it's ridiculous that people complain me. I'm we 1463 01:22:33,540 --> 01:22:37,440 were just talking here. I mean, if we wanted to, it's not a 1464 01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:38,100 report 1465 01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,800 that there's a lot of misunderstanding about what 1466 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:41,880 we're doing John belief. 1467 01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,780 Yeah, I know. There's a couple of guys that moan about it a lot 1468 01:22:45,780 --> 01:22:50,880 for some reason. So anyway, the point I still want to make is 1469 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:55,050 that if I had a camera that had Deadwood geotag automatically, 1470 01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:59,160 like a good quality camera, or one of these things like the 1471 01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,980 little video camera, I would think it'd be a cool thing to 1472 01:23:01,980 --> 01:23:05,640 have. Yeah, by the way, I did get nine mesh I did get a couple 1473 01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:09,030 of notes for people but they said that they were in agreement 1474 01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:12,420 with me about the idea being a good one again, you're right. I 1475 01:23:12,420 --> 01:23:15,210 was always thinking that was a bad idea. And I thought was just 1476 01:23:15,210 --> 01:23:17,670 a waste of money to put a circuit in a camera that would 1477 01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:20,190 have GPS capability. 1478 01:23:20,340 --> 01:23:24,840 The Ricoh Pro G three digital camera. This came out in 2005 1479 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:29,130 Actually, I'm just Googling some shit here. Digi cam so that does 1480 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:33,120 video and and pictures. And it 1481 01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:34,470 has a GPS in it. Yeah. 1482 01:23:38,190 --> 01:23:41,040 Codec had went out ages ago. It even says in this article. 1483 01:23:42,930 --> 01:23:44,940 So I guess it's lost favour. 1484 01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:49,620 It's gone out of style. So much for my theory. 1485 01:23:52,350 --> 01:23:54,060 It's funny what time you gotta get up, man. It's 1486 01:23:54,330 --> 01:23:57,120 mostly a marketing thing. You know? These things have to be 1487 01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:01,440 marketed properly. It's getting late. At 230 where you are? 1488 01:24:01,770 --> 01:24:03,420 Yeah, it's 230 in the morning. 1489 01:24:03,450 --> 01:24:05,730 Oh shit, man. Listen the show Hold on. Let me get the music 1490 01:24:05,730 --> 01:24:08,340 and that's that's too late. You need your beauty sleep, John. 1491 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,920 Yes, I do. Yeah. And I actually I was going to fly it one I'm 1492 01:24:14,010 --> 01:24:16,860 taking my wife's bags over again to Holland because she refuses 1493 01:24:16,860 --> 01:24:21,090 to fly with me. And I gotta go because there's a one storm 1494 01:24:21,090 --> 01:24:25,260 front over the North Sea now and that will end the round. Around 1495 01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:27,420 12 o'clock, so I gotta get flying because there's another 1496 01:24:27,420 --> 01:24:29,760 one coming up from France. I don't want to take the channel 1497 01:24:29,790 --> 01:24:33,600 but okay, dude, you'd be doing it all day to take the channel. 1498 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:38,790 You do not want to take the channel. Okay, hey, I think I'm 1499 01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:41,550 coming over in a couple of weeks again. I can't wait we've got a 1500 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,140 got to set up another dinner date. 1501 01:24:43,950 --> 01:24:46,170 I hope you're not going to be over here when I'm in Holland. 1502 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,500 Oh crap. No when you're in August, aren't you? Oh yeah, 1503 01:24:49,500 --> 01:24:53,520 right. Now we got June we got July. No, no, we're gonna hook 1504 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,400 up an Amsterdam for sure. You're bringing your family over, 1505 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:56,700 right. 1506 01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,970 We're hope we're hoping to it depends on what the schedule 1507 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,220 History my daughter, she's got all these projects, 1508 01:25:04,710 --> 01:25:05,790 theatre projects. 1509 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,000 Now that and whatever. Oh well, you're 1510 01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:14,010 busy. Good to hear how involved you are and your children. It's 1511 01:25:14,010 --> 01:25:16,920 always nice to hear a parent's being proud of all the whatever 1512 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:18,060 the heck the kids are doing. 1513 01:25:18,630 --> 01:25:21,570 I don't know what their kids are doing all kinds of stuff. 1514 01:25:23,010 --> 01:25:25,410 All right, everybody. This was no agenda for this week. Thank 1515 01:25:25,410 --> 01:25:28,140 you very much for listening. Don't send us any email. We're 1516 01:25:28,140 --> 01:25:31,380 just not interested in coming to you from the curry manor in the 1517 01:25:31,380 --> 01:25:32,970 United Kingdom. I'm Adam curry. 1518 01:25:33,570 --> 01:25:35,760 And I'm John C. Dvorak here in Northern California. 1519 01:25:35,790 --> 01:25:38,850 We'll talk to you again next week right here on no agenda.