1 00:00:01,650 --> 00:00:05,400 Hey wanna kidney? Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,810 It is Thursday, July 30 2009. Time for your Gitmo nation audio 3 00:00:09,810 --> 00:00:16,320 publication episode 117. This is no agenda coming to you from the 4 00:00:16,830 --> 00:00:19,920 minimum security containment cell known as the crackpot 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,640 command centre in the undisclosed loft location under 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,660 threat of eminent domain and get more nation West. At San 7 00:00:27,660 --> 00:00:29,460 Francisco, California. I'm Adam curry. 8 00:00:30,210 --> 00:00:33,960 And from Silicon Valley north where it's garbage pickup day, 9 00:00:34,170 --> 00:00:38,430 I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg Vaughn and Buzz Buzzkill. 10 00:00:40,710 --> 00:00:45,030 See how soft it was? I couldn't get to the fader on time. Sorry. 11 00:00:45,030 --> 00:00:50,520 Okay, now I'll fix it in post. No, you won't. Yes, I would. 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,300 That one I will fix him post. Hey, John, how you doing? Okay. 13 00:00:54,390 --> 00:00:57,720 Yeah, good. Little bit of equipment failure here today, 14 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:58,500 but we're live. 15 00:00:59,130 --> 00:01:01,890 Yeah, your MIDI controller blew up. Yeah, so 16 00:01:01,890 --> 00:01:05,580 my setup is so perfect man. This little fader Fox which I have to 17 00:01:05,580 --> 00:01:10,740 say has been through so many TSA checks that you know every 18 00:01:10,740 --> 00:01:13,320 single time I open up my suitcase like okay what knob is 19 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:17,520 busted now it's got scotch tape all over it holding the battery 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,950 pack together and now just finally doesn't no longer 21 00:01:19,950 --> 00:01:23,400 communicates with the MIDI interface so I have to do faders 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,290 by hand. I'll 23 00:01:26,310 --> 00:01:27,780 show can you get another one? 24 00:01:28,019 --> 00:01:31,769 Yeah from Germany. have to order it Do they still make them yeah 25 00:01:31,769 --> 00:01:33,839 fader Fox dot d 26 00:01:34,380 --> 00:01:36,450 they should be giving them to you for free with all that 27 00:01:36,450 --> 00:01:37,710 publicity. Yeah, 28 00:01:37,709 --> 00:01:40,619 they should. Well, we have some money so I can buy a new one 29 00:01:40,619 --> 00:01:43,109 it's no it's no problem. It's just the hassle of waiting 30 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:45,569 because I won't have it before Sunday. And it just it sucks 31 00:01:45,569 --> 00:01:49,499 because then you know I can't do levels I can't do my levels 32 00:01:52,500 --> 00:01:54,210 so get you some clips this week. 33 00:01:54,809 --> 00:02:00,989 I noticed well if you just a few John really? 34 00:02:01,260 --> 00:02:04,110 So there's one that may we should just play at the front of 35 00:02:04,110 --> 00:02:07,950 the show because it's kind of entertaining and but it's making 36 00:02:07,950 --> 00:02:10,980 me wonder exactly how much the government is getting involved 37 00:02:10,980 --> 00:02:19,350 in our media. Play the this is a clip from a 1933 movie a gold 38 00:02:19,350 --> 00:02:23,160 diggers in 1933 To be specific and I want you to play this this 39 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:27,180 is clips about I think it's about 4550 seconds is a little 40 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:30,120 long, but play it because I think it's interesting to see 41 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,580 you can see where the propaganda has been slipped in just listen 42 00:02:32,580 --> 00:02:36,090 to this clip. It's a Dick Powell saying they got something what 43 00:02:36,090 --> 00:02:39,780 kind of a march effect March rhythm to it. Yes, I have. I 44 00:02:39,780 --> 00:02:42,000 have something about a forgotten man. But I don't have the words 45 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,290 to it yet. Play a fire. I'll tell you I just gotten the idea 46 00:02:46,290 --> 00:02:49,470 for it last night was down times were watching those men in the 47 00:02:49,470 --> 00:02:52,350 red line. standing out in the rain waiting for coffee and 48 00:02:52,350 --> 00:02:57,090 donut. men out of a job around the soup kitchen staff. God 49 00:02:58,860 --> 00:03:02,310 that's what this shows about the depression. Marching marching. 50 00:03:04,980 --> 00:03:08,310 Marching, marching. That's 51 00:03:12,509 --> 00:03:19,289 got me I was all ready to fire it off. jobs and jobs for jobs. 52 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:23,309 You got me that was a good one. 53 00:03:25,290 --> 00:03:28,920 Well, of course the media has been infiltrated, indoctrinated 54 00:03:28,920 --> 00:03:32,160 and owned by big media by big business and the government for 55 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,230 years. This was from what 1950s? You said 56 00:03:34,259 --> 00:03:35,609 1933. 57 00:03:35,940 --> 00:03:38,940 Have you seen the most recent Harry and Louise healthcare 58 00:03:38,940 --> 00:03:40,110 advertisements? John? 59 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,260 No, I have not seen any Harry and Louise healthcare. 60 00:03:43,470 --> 00:03:46,560 This is a lovely little piece which I caught on C span as you 61 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,290 know, we have to we have to watch last. And 62 00:03:49,499 --> 00:03:52,349 by the way, we should be getting huge donations for this torture. 63 00:03:53,070 --> 00:03:56,460 We really should. Here's the setup from the C span host it's 64 00:03:56,460 --> 00:03:57,180 actually pretty good. Well, 65 00:03:57,180 --> 00:03:59,460 we use ads. And what we thought we would do is show you the 66 00:03:59,460 --> 00:04:02,370 evolution of these ads, including the most recent one 67 00:04:02,850 --> 00:04:05,640 spin off of those ads, which was released this past Thursday. 68 00:04:05,669 --> 00:04:09,779 Okay, so first, you're gonna get a pro. What listen to because 69 00:04:09,809 --> 00:04:10,769 basically the way 70 00:04:10,770 --> 00:04:12,960 before you play it, can you give us a little background on these 71 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,360 ads? Because I've never seen any of them. These are 72 00:04:15,390 --> 00:04:20,280 the slew of health care ads that are basically promoting the the 73 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:24,150 Obama health care bill. And so first we get I think it's like, 74 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,510 for some reason, it's an anti ad. Well, you'll follow along 75 00:04:27,510 --> 00:04:29,460 and I'll tell you what, what you're actually seeing on the 76 00:04:29,460 --> 00:04:31,860 Democratic National Committee. Here's what they look like. Of 77 00:04:31,860 --> 00:04:33,900 course, they're all from the Democratic National Committee. 78 00:04:36,210 --> 00:04:40,650 So what So first, they show a little bit of an anti health 79 00:04:40,650 --> 00:04:44,460 care ad and then they start responding to so this is 80 00:04:44,460 --> 00:04:46,680 somewhere in the future covered under oath. 81 00:04:47,730 --> 00:04:50,520 Yeah, that was a good one, wasn't it? Things are changing. 82 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:54,120 And not all for the better. The government may force us to pick 83 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,580 from a few health care plans designed by government 84 00:04:56,580 --> 00:04:58,020 bureaucrats having choices 85 00:04:58,020 --> 00:05:03,480 we don't like it's no choice at all. they choose, we lose for 86 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,170 reforms that 87 00:05:04,170 --> 00:05:08,310 protect what we have called toll free. No the fact okay, if we 88 00:05:08,310 --> 00:05:12,030 let the government choose, we lose, right so so first they set 89 00:05:12,030 --> 00:05:15,690 it up with a little piece from the Coalition for health 90 00:05:15,750 --> 00:05:19,410 insurance choices in the Health Insurance Association of America 91 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,260 and now they start hammering against it. In the same ad 92 00:05:22,260 --> 00:05:22,770 today. 93 00:05:23,460 --> 00:05:26,340 You probably seen a yuppie couple named Harry and Louise on 94 00:05:26,340 --> 00:05:29,010 TV recently questioning the President's health care plan. 95 00:05:29,010 --> 00:05:30,480 Well, I thought I'd bring you up to date. 96 00:05:30,750 --> 00:05:33,600 You got to know this guy is standing in a graveyard, Harry 97 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:33,900 lost 98 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:37,230 his job and also his insurance, Louisa and a small struggling 99 00:05:37,230 --> 00:05:39,510 company that couldn't afford group insurance, so she'd always 100 00:05:39,510 --> 00:05:42,570 dependent on Harry's policy. Unfortunately, she had a pre 101 00:05:42,570 --> 00:05:44,730 existing condition that prevented her from obtaining new 102 00:05:44,730 --> 00:05:47,400 coverage. Now it's true, Louise should have gone into the 103 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,010 hospital earlier, but she didn't want to eat into their savings. 104 00:05:50,130 --> 00:05:52,410 Eventually, she and Harry gave up their country club 105 00:05:52,410 --> 00:05:54,690 memberships and sold their expensive foreign car, but by 106 00:05:54,690 --> 00:05:56,040 then it was too late. 107 00:05:56,250 --> 00:05:59,460 And now that big reveal he's in the graveyard. Very nice 108 00:05:59,460 --> 00:06:02,910 service. Here. He doesn't get out here much. He got a job 109 00:06:02,910 --> 00:06:05,760 making commercials in another state. A new company doesn't 110 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,040 have an insurance plan. And after paying off Louise's 111 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,150 hospital bills, he can't afford one. Sad story. The insurance 112 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:14,790 companies say we can fix things using the same system that's 113 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:17,580 always been there. That's what they told Teddy Roosevelt when 114 00:06:17,580 --> 00:06:20,880 he proposed a national plan almost 100 years ago. Yes, 115 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,550 they're still working on it. Oh, hey, by the way, if you see 116 00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:26,250 Harry, tell him to hang in there. The President's plan is 117 00:06:26,250 --> 00:06:27,510 just around the corner. 118 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,720 So this goes on, there's more and more you want to see want to 119 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,170 hear one more? Yeah, these are good. So these are a couple guys 120 00:06:34,170 --> 00:06:36,870 playing basketball. He shoots he scores. 121 00:06:38,460 --> 00:06:41,220 I was just telling me his state has community rating. Everyone 122 00:06:41,220 --> 00:06:44,160 pays the same rate, no matter their age, even if they smoke or 123 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,140 whatever. Doesn't work. 124 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,280 My health insurance went from 1200 to $3,200. A year with a 125 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:53,700 double Yeah, 1000s dropped their insurance. I mean, we actually 126 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:54,840 have fewer covers now 127 00:06:54,990 --> 00:06:57,840 than before. Congress can do better than that. If we send 128 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:00,990 them that message to send Congress a message on flat rate. 129 00:07:00,990 --> 00:07:03,480 So again, they set it up with the Health Insurance Association 130 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,940 from America and then they come in with their own message call 131 00:07:05,940 --> 00:07:08,730 today. He said universal 132 00:07:08,730 --> 00:07:11,370 health care was too complicated. Louise 133 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:13,620 said you'd never so now they've 134 00:07:13,620 --> 00:07:17,850 got like a spin off of of these to embed and they're in 135 00:07:17,850 --> 00:07:20,400 traction, they've got bandages all over their head and they 136 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,510 messed up 137 00:07:21,540 --> 00:07:23,610 your job. So we'd always be covered. 138 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,480 What do we do when the government runs out of money? 139 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,570 runs out of money now here are a better way 140 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:40,320 the guy rolls out of there is a better way to tell Congress what 141 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,890 they already have the security of affordable universal health 142 00:07:43,890 --> 00:07:47,160 care. And I gotta tell you that the President has been the chair 143 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,010 of the Democratic National, the oh gosh, this chair of the 144 00:07:50,010 --> 00:07:52,740 Democratic National Committee What a douche. Anyway, the 145 00:07:52,740 --> 00:07:56,160 President has been sending messages almost non stop. I know 146 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,590 of course. I'm on his list. Yeah, I'm 147 00:07:58,590 --> 00:07:59,850 not on his list. Well, I 148 00:07:59,850 --> 00:08:02,970 got another email from him yet another dear friend. Why can't I 149 00:08:02,970 --> 00:08:05,910 be a citizen? I don't I'm not his friend. Okay. I'm not your 150 00:08:05,910 --> 00:08:09,960 friend. I'm just not you know, I am your boss. You never met the 151 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,470 guy. Why does he just say Dear Boss, I would feel a lot better. 152 00:08:13,530 --> 00:08:16,530 Am I not his boss? Technically one of his many bosses? Yeah. 153 00:08:17,220 --> 00:08:20,970 Yeah, sure. Dear friend. If you're like most Americans, 154 00:08:20,970 --> 00:08:23,430 there's nothing more important to you about healthcare than 155 00:08:23,430 --> 00:08:28,290 peace of mind. by Stuart Smalley. Given the status quo 156 00:08:28,290 --> 00:08:30,690 That's understandable. The current system often denies 157 00:08:30,690 --> 00:08:33,690 insurance due to pre existing conditions charges steep out of 158 00:08:33,690 --> 00:08:36,750 pocket fees and sometimes it isn't there at all if you become 159 00:08:36,750 --> 00:08:41,580 seriously ill. And then he goes into this whole thing. Okay, 160 00:08:41,580 --> 00:08:44,010 time to fix our unsustainable insurance system create a new 161 00:08:44,010 --> 00:08:47,310 foundation for health care security. Wow, it sounds like 162 00:08:47,310 --> 00:08:50,790 Homeland Security. This means guaranteeing your health land 163 00:08:50,790 --> 00:08:53,820 security not going up your health care security. This is 164 00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:56,790 interesting. It's a twist on words, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, 165 00:08:56,790 --> 00:09:00,210 that doesn't sound good. It's time to fix our unsustainable do 166 00:09:00,210 --> 00:09:08,640 what we say open your mouth it's time to fix our unsustainable 167 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,040 insurance system create a new foundation for health care 168 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,860 security. This means guaranteeing your healthcare 169 00:09:13,860 --> 00:09:18,030 security and stability with eight basic consumer protection 170 00:09:18,030 --> 00:09:20,970 protections. So here they come no discrimination for pre 171 00:09:20,970 --> 00:09:23,940 existing conditions no exorbitant out of pocket 172 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:28,290 expenses deductible or co pays no cost sharing for preventive 173 00:09:28,290 --> 00:09:31,470 care no dropping of coverage if you become seriously ill no 174 00:09:31,470 --> 00:09:35,550 gender discrimination, no annual or lifetime caps on coverage, 175 00:09:35,970 --> 00:09:40,110 extended coverage for young adults and guaranteed insurance 176 00:09:40,110 --> 00:09:47,940 renewal as so long as premiums are paid. And I just found it 177 00:09:47,940 --> 00:09:53,460 interesting that these messages keep on coming from my friend in 178 00:09:53,460 --> 00:09:54,270 the White House. 179 00:09:56,010 --> 00:09:58,740 Well, bite law just sent me a little note that's kind of 180 00:09:58,740 --> 00:10:02,190 interesting, huh? He says the Democratic National Committee 181 00:10:02,190 --> 00:10:05,610 group is significantly expanding a health care add by I guess 182 00:10:05,610 --> 00:10:08,580 they're the ones paying for all this crap that Senate Majority 183 00:10:08,580 --> 00:10:12,270 Leader Harry Reid, Democrat from Nevada last week called a waste 184 00:10:12,270 --> 00:10:16,950 of money. And what's weird about that they think it's a waste of 185 00:10:16,950 --> 00:10:20,460 money when in fact, this is exactly the way you want to go 186 00:10:20,460 --> 00:10:24,150 about this. What do you mean is you want to promote the heck out 187 00:10:24,150 --> 00:10:26,520 of it to the jet to the public, so you don't have people out 188 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,630 there grousing? And then, of course, the Republicans were so 189 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:33,660 surprised to me that Reid would do that. But the Republicans 190 00:10:33,660 --> 00:10:37,080 have jumped all over, you know, they're starting to dissect the 191 00:10:37,110 --> 00:10:40,380 the House bill, and the one they've come up with. That's the 192 00:10:40,380 --> 00:10:44,250 most interesting. We have a couple of clips here. There are 193 00:10:44,250 --> 00:10:49,260 the one where apparently there's some provision for putting in 194 00:10:50,070 --> 00:10:53,940 for some government agents to come around and ask you how you 195 00:10:53,940 --> 00:10:54,690 want to die. 196 00:10:54,690 --> 00:10:57,180 Oh, yeah, this is the Living Will thing, right. Yeah. You 197 00:10:57,180 --> 00:10:58,890 want to play the clip that has? 198 00:10:59,370 --> 00:11:01,830 Yeah, I just didn't post love here. He was talking about the 199 00:11:01,830 --> 00:11:04,920 health care plan after being asked a question by a wearing 200 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,920 caller at an ARB meeting today 201 00:11:11,250 --> 00:11:17,580 in their Medicare age will be visited and told to decide how 202 00:11:17,580 --> 00:11:21,360 they wish to die. This bothers me greatly. And I'd like to 203 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:26,370 promise me that this is not you know, the 204 00:11:27,270 --> 00:11:29,550 promise that it's not in the bill because it is it is in the 205 00:11:29,550 --> 00:11:33,000 bill. We read it ourselves. It's kind of listen to Obama not 206 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,750 answered the question. Okay. I guarantee it. First of all, we 207 00:11:36,750 --> 00:11:40,230 just don't have enough government workers 208 00:11:40,230 --> 00:11:44,220 to send to talk to everybody. Now that's what acorn is for, to 209 00:11:44,220 --> 00:11:49,170 find out how they want to die. I think that the only thing that 210 00:11:49,170 --> 00:11:52,860 may have been proposed in some of the bills, and I actually 211 00:11:52,860 --> 00:11:57,750 think this is a good thing is that it makes it easier for 212 00:11:57,750 --> 00:12:02,670 people to fill out a living will. So no, no, we won't come 213 00:12:02,670 --> 00:12:06,030 around will force you to tell us you like to send it in. We'll 214 00:12:06,030 --> 00:12:07,740 have a website for it I'm sure 215 00:12:07,830 --> 00:12:14,190 to living living. Now the Republicans are having a good 216 00:12:14,190 --> 00:12:16,470 time with this. You have to listen to this next clip with 217 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:19,320 his which is the debt the Republican from North Carolina 218 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:24,660 congressman, who was fairly long in age named Virginia Fox play 219 00:12:24,660 --> 00:12:25,260 this clip. 220 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,580 Republicans have a better solution that won't put the 221 00:12:29,580 --> 00:12:32,520 government in charge of people's health care that will make sure 222 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,910 we bring down the cost of health care for all Americans, and that 223 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:40,080 ensures affordable access for all Americans, and is pro life 224 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,880 because it will not put seniors in a position of being put to 225 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,230 death by their government. 226 00:12:48,030 --> 00:12:53,340 Awesome. Dad. Well, I do have to say though, you know, there is 227 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:58,350 some merit to and this and I've been a part of socialised 228 00:12:58,350 --> 00:13:01,380 medicine in the United Kingdom, socialised medicine in the 229 00:13:01,380 --> 00:13:05,850 Netherlands, at a certain point, how long it is socialised 230 00:13:05,850 --> 00:13:08,160 medicine. And this is real. This is the pro and The con of it, 231 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,900 right? Sure. Everyone deserves to have health care. This sounds 232 00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:17,640 so much like Atlas Shrugged. It's amazing. Please go. No, no, 233 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,570 no, no. I'm sorry. It really does. He was at a certain at a 234 00:13:21,570 --> 00:13:24,960 certain point. You know, where do you say okay, we're going to 235 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,440 focus the money towards keeping this person alive on life 236 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,730 support and you know, hung in strung into machines versus, you 237 00:13:32,730 --> 00:13:35,640 know, someone who has their entire life before them and need 238 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,370 maybe a kidney transplant. I'm just trying to balance it out. 239 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,850 And in the socialised medicine systems, they do have a cut off 240 00:13:41,850 --> 00:13:42,540 point, it's just 241 00:13:42,540 --> 00:13:44,910 like, yeah, no, I know, in England, they've supposedly just 242 00:13:44,940 --> 00:13:46,560 want people to drop dead. Well, 243 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:49,380 it's not quite that bad. I mean, they they want everyone to drop 244 00:13:49,380 --> 00:13:52,440 dead. Because there you have it. If you need an emergency 245 00:13:52,470 --> 00:13:55,230 procedure, it's like two month waiting lists. I mean, it's 246 00:13:55,230 --> 00:13:57,600 completely messed up their entire healthcare system, but 247 00:13:58,020 --> 00:14:01,620 in England can't you've you can hire a doctor to do it, you can 248 00:14:01,620 --> 00:14:01,710 do 249 00:14:01,710 --> 00:14:05,280 it privately. You can, you know, there's nothing wrong with 250 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,340 hiring privately. It's just the national health care system, the 251 00:14:08,340 --> 00:14:13,200 NHS or NHS? You know, they do have certain I don't know what 252 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,510 they are, but they do have certain certain cutoff points it 253 00:14:15,510 --> 00:14:22,020 just like, I'm sorry, you know, we've no life for you, and no 254 00:14:22,020 --> 00:14:27,420 service for you. And then it's just over. So you have to accept 255 00:14:27,420 --> 00:14:30,510 that if you're going to accept a national health care plan, you 256 00:14:30,510 --> 00:14:34,740 have to accept that that's a part of it. That makes total 257 00:14:34,740 --> 00:14:37,560 sense to me. And I don't think anyone can really argue the 258 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,610 fairness of it. No, we all have to die at a certain point. 259 00:14:41,850 --> 00:14:44,370 Well, you know, if Obama doesn't do anything else, he's actually 260 00:14:44,370 --> 00:14:46,710 going to get this one. He's gonna get some health care 261 00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:48,900 system and no matter how much they fight it, I think it's 262 00:14:48,930 --> 00:14:51,540 over. I think the Republicans are on the wrong side of the 263 00:14:51,540 --> 00:14:55,080 debate. And it's just over because it is ridiculous even 264 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,360 though they had one of the guys came up I had the clip, but it 265 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,220 was it was actually turned out to be kind of boring and 266 00:14:59,220 --> 00:15:02,490 specious. But One of the congressmen came out, you know, 267 00:15:02,490 --> 00:15:06,150 in Congress on the house, they have these one minute like to 268 00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:08,850 speak the one minute period where they make an announcement. 269 00:15:08,850 --> 00:15:12,690 We'll now listen to one minute speeches. And so they one guy 270 00:15:12,690 --> 00:15:15,570 after another comes up with some what can you do in one minute? 271 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,590 Well, apparently quite a bit, you can do a whole ad. Okay, do 272 00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:21,270 you have one of those one minute ads? 273 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:24,390 No, I'm just saying, I mean, most of the ads are on the TV or 274 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:27,180 one minute, they're pretty tight. And these guys run it 275 00:15:27,180 --> 00:15:29,250 again, a few minutes, you know, a few seconds one way there, but 276 00:15:29,250 --> 00:15:32,400 this basically a quick little, they want to make a comment. And 277 00:15:32,430 --> 00:15:35,460 then this guy shows that that Ford 44 million uninsured is a 278 00:15:35,460 --> 00:15:38,430 bogus figure, but you know, some of the way he presented it was a 279 00:15:38,430 --> 00:15:39,690 little dubious, right? Because 280 00:15:39,690 --> 00:15:44,640 it's 20 20 million are illegal aliens, and, you know, of 281 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:45,120 course. 282 00:15:45,450 --> 00:15:50,040 So the point is, is though, is that, you know, some system has 283 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,470 to be because these guys are getting free health care anyway. 284 00:15:53,130 --> 00:15:55,200 You know, and the fact that prisoners are getting you know, 285 00:15:55,230 --> 00:15:57,330 there's somebody sent me an interesting thing that was in 286 00:15:57,330 --> 00:16:00,600 California, this is a good number. Okay, and I don't have a 287 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,120 clip for it. It's just a good number in California, we spent 288 00:16:03,150 --> 00:16:12,120 $800 million for health care for inmates for ex cons ex cons for 289 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,200 ex cons. 290 00:16:13,230 --> 00:16:16,470 Wow. That gives Cobra a whole new meaning. 291 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:19,260 So I mean, it just says, I mean, why they're spending 100 292 00:16:19,260 --> 00:16:21,660 million, you do it, because they don't want to actually, I don't 293 00:16:21,660 --> 00:16:24,360 know what the thinking is. But we spent almost a billion in 294 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,540 health care for ex cons in the state of California. So that 295 00:16:27,540 --> 00:16:32,010 mean, it is ridiculous. Everybody gets out to care about 296 00:16:32,010 --> 00:16:35,520 people who like are normal working people. Yeah. You know, 297 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,680 people, the guys in the office, they have to, you know, do what 298 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,980 unless their company has it. And but then if they get laid off in 299 00:16:40,980 --> 00:16:44,280 a situation like we have today, where, you know, there's 15% 300 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,690 unemployment in California, at least, and you have, you know, 301 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,390 what do they do then if they, you know, catch something, and 302 00:16:51,390 --> 00:16:53,880 they have to go in for a procedure? I mean, it's just 303 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:54,570 ridiculous. 304 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:58,590 Well, so basically, what you're saying is you believe that some 305 00:16:58,590 --> 00:17:00,540 form of health care bill will pass. 306 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,440 Yeah, absolutely. That's because they're really putting it 307 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,380 putting this putting the pedal to the metal on this thing. And 308 00:17:07,380 --> 00:17:10,530 that's what makes me wonder what what Harry Reid's up to because 309 00:17:10,530 --> 00:17:14,190 that's first thing if I was Obama's boys, I get that guy 310 00:17:14,190 --> 00:17:15,990 out. Yeah, he shouldn't 311 00:17:15,989 --> 00:17:18,329 be questioned, Hey, man, you're not on the programme. We need to 312 00:17:18,329 --> 00:17:20,879 break your pinky like the rest of him. So you can be a part of 313 00:17:20,879 --> 00:17:21,599 our show. 314 00:17:21,869 --> 00:17:24,539 You know, he's got it. He's not playing along. 315 00:17:24,719 --> 00:17:27,389 I did find it interesting. I think it was the same bite law. 316 00:17:27,419 --> 00:17:31,259 You get information from from time to time, he sent an email 317 00:17:31,259 --> 00:17:35,849 to the President about unrelated about second amendment rights. 318 00:17:35,999 --> 00:17:40,979 And he received an actual personalised email. He got a 319 00:17:40,979 --> 00:17:45,749 dear John Stack. Yeah. And it's a whole different reply to 320 00:17:45,749 --> 00:17:50,819 address it's no reply dash Wh pc@whitehouse.gov that the White 321 00:17:50,819 --> 00:17:53,009 House presidential correspondence, so there is a 322 00:17:53,009 --> 00:17:53,879 way to get 323 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,509 no reply, of course, entered into a bucket. Yeah, of course. 324 00:17:57,510 --> 00:18:00,240 But still, you know, to get a personalised email back that's 325 00:18:00,270 --> 00:18:02,790 there is a way apparently to get a little bit deeper into the 326 00:18:02,790 --> 00:18:03,300 system. 327 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,890 And maybe if you're a lawyer, 328 00:18:06,450 --> 00:18:11,400 that's right. vite law. Lawyers. Yeah, that does kind of make 329 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,690 sense, doesn't it? Okay, you want to do some more of these 330 00:18:15,690 --> 00:18:17,850 clips because I got plenty of other stuff to talk about. 331 00:18:18,450 --> 00:18:20,160 Well, what else is on the list? They're well, 332 00:18:20,970 --> 00:18:23,820 on the on the clip list, or I have something that clip list. 333 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,180 Okay, on the clip list, by the way, just a quick one on the 334 00:18:27,780 --> 00:18:31,470 little little ditty on the health care reform according to 335 00:18:31,470 --> 00:18:36,960 the United Kingdom to the Daily Mail of the United Kingdom, I'm 336 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:42,390 sorry. A Botox tax could be introduced for the United 337 00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:46,380 Healthcare reforms demanded by President Barack Obama patients 338 00:18:46,380 --> 00:18:49,050 seeking Cosmetic Surgery, including breast implants, 339 00:18:49,050 --> 00:18:53,460 liposuction and nose jobs could be forced to pay an extra 10% on 340 00:18:53,460 --> 00:18:54,030 their bill. 341 00:18:55,079 --> 00:18:58,679 Well, I think the the liposuction nose jobs and breast 342 00:18:58,679 --> 00:19:00,389 implants they should get a tax credit. 343 00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:08,700 I think you should get a bonus. Less ugly people caught looking 344 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:10,860 chicks. Exactly. A tax 345 00:19:10,859 --> 00:19:13,529 credit gets a good for the National Digital Division 346 00:19:13,529 --> 00:19:18,119 National rings brings them back. Yes, 347 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,459 exactly. All right. I've got 348 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,950 what we might want to play Chris Matthews rants about the about 349 00:19:25,950 --> 00:19:29,310 that crazy provision? I'd never saw him go off on something like 350 00:19:29,310 --> 00:19:29,670 this. 351 00:19:29,730 --> 00:19:31,950 Well, that's how hot it's getting lowest semana Jonathan 352 00:19:31,950 --> 00:19:34,470 Martin Lewis, your thoughts about this debate? It's about 353 00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:38,040 the living world provision. Right. Yeah. provision in the 354 00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:40,650 energy bill Energy and Commerce version of the health care bill 355 00:19:40,650 --> 00:19:42,150 in the Energy and Commerce Committee. 356 00:19:42,270 --> 00:19:45,060 When I met with the energy portion of the health care bill, 357 00:19:45,090 --> 00:19:45,450 what am I 358 00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:49,350 the problem? Yeah, you know, these bills, they go to 359 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:51,180 committee and then they get passed by committee, but some of 360 00:19:51,180 --> 00:19:53,700 them have so many different kinds of provisos that they have 361 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:56,850 to go to another committee. Like if, for example, they're asking 362 00:19:56,850 --> 00:19:59,220 for a lot of money, it's gotta go to the Finance Committee, or 363 00:19:59,220 --> 00:20:01,230 if they're asking for some Why don't know why the Energy 364 00:20:01,230 --> 00:20:03,240 Committee is involved at some for some reason the bill had to 365 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,040 go through there and then when they get a hold of it, they 366 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,810 start adding more crap to it. 367 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,220 Energy stuff. We should have our own committee John, we should be 368 00:20:11,220 --> 00:20:13,590 a committee in government we could add all kinds of cool 369 00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:16,380 stuff like the Botox credit, that would be a really good one 370 00:20:16,380 --> 00:20:17,040 for us to add, 371 00:20:17,069 --> 00:20:21,509 he was put in this provision by URL blauen, blood blown our from 372 00:20:21,539 --> 00:20:26,909 Oregon blue and our blue and our it's, it's there it stands, it's 373 00:20:27,329 --> 00:20:29,729 blowing our blue in the blue without your 374 00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:33,660 revision, which allows you to get counselling every five years 375 00:20:33,660 --> 00:20:36,960 or so. I wonder what the hell this provision is doing it a 376 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,690 bill that's aimed at people who are younger, it's not about 377 00:20:39,690 --> 00:20:43,410 Medicare recipients, people over 65 why we'd want to be visited 378 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:46,710 every five years by somebody to talk about how you want to die. 379 00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:49,620 I think it's crazy. This is in there, but your thoughts, but 380 00:20:49,620 --> 00:20:51,750 it's not in there. I mean, basically, it isn't. 381 00:20:51,869 --> 00:20:56,969 It isn't there. But it's personal all Chris, Chris, first 382 00:20:56,969 --> 00:20:59,489 of all, who is that? Who is that talking to? Oh, 383 00:20:59,490 --> 00:21:02,550 she's a Washington Post reporter and she's saying it's not in the 384 00:21:02,550 --> 00:21:05,340 bill that she read it. That's what she said. She says down the 385 00:21:05,340 --> 00:21:07,050 bill. And then she kind of backed off and says, Well, it's 386 00:21:07,050 --> 00:21:11,010 kind of in the bill. And then she said, just to summarise it. 387 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,290 Then she said, Well, it's already in the Medicaid and 388 00:21:13,290 --> 00:21:16,140 Medicare bills are there in that law, and he's just got nothing 389 00:21:16,140 --> 00:21:20,010 to do with it. And he goes off on her. He was like really irked 390 00:21:20,010 --> 00:21:28,020 about this. Okay, okay, so what's on the clip list? I've 391 00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:35,340 got Paulson one and two who I've gotten a thing I read it it was 392 00:21:35,340 --> 00:21:37,800 in Huffington Post saying that they got you know, Paulson got 393 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,880 called up because of some email or some crazy things that were 394 00:21:41,910 --> 00:21:44,640 you know, they they were going through the email and they found 395 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,460 some this and that and the other thing, and then I heard this 396 00:21:47,460 --> 00:21:52,770 Paulson one. Paulson to the B clip, which I was just actually 397 00:21:52,770 --> 00:21:55,860 very flabbergasted by play this this is Jackie Speier, and in a 398 00:21:55,860 --> 00:22:00,540 in a in a hearing where they're ripping Paulson a new one, 399 00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:03,929 do you use email? Do I Use Email? No. 400 00:22:04,319 --> 00:22:07,169 Do you use Hotmail? Do you use Gmail? 401 00:22:07,230 --> 00:22:10,530 Use it personally. You don't use it personally or professionally. 402 00:22:10,530 --> 00:22:13,500 I just don't so I've never used it for any business 403 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:16,860 communications just never use it. So while you were Treasury 404 00:22:16,890 --> 00:22:20,190 Secretary of the Treasury you never use Gmail? No. How did you 405 00:22:20,190 --> 00:22:22,380 communicate with people? Telephone? 406 00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:29,399 I don't use email. Okay, that hey, that's your government or 407 00:22:29,399 --> 00:22:34,079 work for him don't use email. Oh, he should 408 00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:35,849 check the calendar Paulson. 409 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,080 He's just Yeah, really? Hello. 2009 calling. It's just so he 410 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,320 can say that whatever emails they find he didn't ride him 411 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,810 right. That's why he's saying that's what I'm buying sack of 412 00:22:45,810 --> 00:22:46,410 shit. 413 00:22:46,829 --> 00:22:50,009 So he's been playing other Paulson clip play the first one 414 00:22:50,009 --> 00:22:52,799 where they there's another one which I'll play maybe on Sunday 415 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:56,039 or the next week, which is just actually really funny. But, but 416 00:22:56,039 --> 00:22:58,199 this one here is not bad. There's also one a 417 00:22:58,230 --> 00:23:01,620 Paulson who was a thief a scoundrel stealing our money for 418 00:23:01,620 --> 00:23:02,460 his buddies if the 419 00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:05,160 people of America didn't create the problem, who created the 420 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,270 problem? If the people of America didn't create the 421 00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:11,580 problem, he said the people of America didn't create the 422 00:23:11,580 --> 00:23:13,260 problem. So tell us who created well, 423 00:23:13,349 --> 00:23:15,779 just so people know who are living in foreign countries if 424 00:23:15,779 --> 00:23:19,169 you didn't understand this is our former finance minister, 425 00:23:19,169 --> 00:23:22,289 essentially secretary of the treasury of the United States ex 426 00:23:22,289 --> 00:23:29,009 Goldman Sachs CEO. My pink is getting even more crooked 427 00:23:29,610 --> 00:23:34,020 banks involved. Well, I would say this this was this problem. 428 00:23:34,050 --> 00:23:38,010 There's so much blame to go around you it's hardly what give 429 00:23:38,010 --> 00:23:38,520 us a few 430 00:23:38,550 --> 00:23:41,550 give us a few give me a try. It's like he's at the 431 00:23:41,550 --> 00:23:44,790 principal's office, isn't it? It's like give me give me a try. 432 00:23:46,529 --> 00:23:50,939 Okay, when you're looking at excesses had been building up 433 00:23:50,939 --> 00:23:54,569 for a very long time, and I just want you to give me some names. 434 00:23:54,569 --> 00:23:57,269 I have a limited amount of time when we include the bank 435 00:23:58,769 --> 00:24:03,209 concluded it will be include anyone you could say financial 436 00:24:03,209 --> 00:24:10,739 institutions and regulators investors. So there was plenty 437 00:24:10,739 --> 00:24:15,479 of mistakes by fast more multitude EV interested in 438 00:24:15,479 --> 00:24:17,849 knowing that in a Financial Services Committee yesterday, 439 00:24:18,089 --> 00:24:21,269 all the banks were represented and they almost to the person 440 00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:23,489 indicated that they weren't responsible for this, but 441 00:24:25,140 --> 00:24:26,340 that's the punch line. 442 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,960 It doesn't really matter. It's all after the fact. I love it. 443 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,780 Man. They've already stolen or stolen all our money and 444 00:24:33,780 --> 00:24:35,370 the money is already stolen. This is like what happened in 445 00:24:35,370 --> 00:24:37,920 Russia when the fall of a calf to the fall of communism all the 446 00:24:37,950 --> 00:24:41,100 gold resource. They all disappeared. The gold 447 00:24:41,159 --> 00:24:43,109 Yeah, really? Well. I've got some of it. 448 00:24:44,220 --> 00:24:45,780 Yeah, you have a piece I got. 449 00:24:45,809 --> 00:24:48,149 I got I got a little piece. I want to talk about the earth for 450 00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:48,629 a second. 451 00:24:49,260 --> 00:24:53,310 The Earth Yeah, the earth. is about that like the planet. The 452 00:24:53,310 --> 00:24:53,730 planet. You 453 00:24:53,730 --> 00:24:57,480 know the thing that we walk around on? Okay. Weather 454 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,840 experts. This is coming to us from What's this fine 455 00:25:00,870 --> 00:25:04,920 publication? Find out for a second Weather experts are 456 00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:09,600 contemplating a new mystery of the deep blue sea. Why it's been 457 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,470 deeper than usual at high tide all along the east coast for the 458 00:25:13,470 --> 00:25:18,270 past several weeks. Since June, tides have been running six 459 00:25:18,270 --> 00:25:23,190 inches to two feet above what would normally be expected, even 460 00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:29,640 considering seasonal and lunar fluctuations. Mike Zubaydah, US 461 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,720 director of an o a tide and current progress tide and 462 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,330 current programme and Silver Spring, Maryland says, right now 463 00:25:36,330 --> 00:25:38,640 we're trying to get a better understanding of what's the 464 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,890 cause. But he says global warming is not to blame. This is 465 00:25:43,890 --> 00:25:48,390 something else and they do not know what it is. Six inches to 466 00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:50,220 two feet higher than normal, John. 467 00:25:51,299 --> 00:25:54,029 Well, maybe something's lifting up in the ocean floor. 468 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,250 I mean, it's clear, we know that something is changing. We know 469 00:25:59,250 --> 00:26:02,640 that the pole, the pole, magnetic poles are reversing. 470 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,490 There's all kinds of magnetic stuff taking place in the 471 00:26:05,490 --> 00:26:08,580 southern hemisphere, probably partially responsible for some 472 00:26:08,580 --> 00:26:12,210 of these aircraft systems frying out. There's a lot of stuff 473 00:26:12,210 --> 00:26:15,570 going on. But it amazes me that this is not like massive news. 474 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,850 What's even more amazing to me, is that 475 00:26:18,569 --> 00:26:20,789 it would have been massive news if he would have said global 476 00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:21,329 warming. Well, 477 00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:23,670 that's the point. Why aren't the global warming jabroni is 478 00:26:23,670 --> 00:26:26,700 jumping on it. This is perfect. You know this the perfect thing 479 00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:31,020 all the polar ice caps are melting, the tide is rising. Why 480 00:26:31,020 --> 00:26:33,870 aren't they doing that seems like a perfect one to jump on. 481 00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:36,599 Well, because apparently somebody came up with some proof 482 00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:38,249 that it's got nothing to do with anything. 483 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,540 Well, actually just as scientists I love that 484 00:26:42,540 --> 00:26:46,650 recording. Scientists we can do nowadays scientists say as the 485 00:26:46,650 --> 00:26:51,840 rise was too sudden for it to be global warming. But at that, so 486 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,270 it's something that sudden it's something that just popped up 487 00:26:54,270 --> 00:26:57,510 really quickly. Six feet, six inches to two feet. That seems 488 00:26:57,510 --> 00:27:05,250 like quite a bit. So you're underwhelmed? Give me an Impala, 489 00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:06,240 Tonto because this? 490 00:27:06,990 --> 00:27:10,710 Oh, yeah, I will say this. I'm thinking that here's the here's 491 00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:15,240 the punchline given? Is this, actually Nepal? Itano. Or is 492 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,410 this Tim Riley? 493 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,670 Who's Tim Riley? 494 00:27:17,819 --> 00:27:21,089 He's the publisher of all these computer books. America. You 495 00:27:21,089 --> 00:27:21,479 mean Tim 496 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,520 O'Reilly? No, no, 497 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,400 it's Tim. Right. There's no O'Reilly know that you're 498 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,500 thinking of the O'Reilly report. 499 00:27:29,010 --> 00:27:31,320 I'm thinking of O'Reilly's bar. I think 500 00:27:32,309 --> 00:27:36,839 American hotels were the target of bombings in Jakarta that 501 00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:41,129 killed eight people and injured six Americans. Six Americans 502 00:27:41,129 --> 00:27:45,449 were among the 164 people killed in the attacks in Mumbai. In 503 00:27:45,449 --> 00:27:50,219 November of 2008. Three Americans were among the 54 504 00:27:50,219 --> 00:27:54,089 killed in the attack on the Marriott Hotel and Islamic BOD 505 00:27:54,329 --> 00:28:01,259 in September of 2008. So if 911 happened in a web 1.0 World 506 00:28:01,259 --> 00:28:06,599 terrorists are certainly in a web 2.0 world now. And many of 507 00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:10,019 the technological tools that expedite communication today, 508 00:28:10,289 --> 00:28:15,629 were in their infancy, or didn't even exist in 2001. Oh, really? 509 00:28:15,690 --> 00:28:21,720 What? The G's web 1.0, terrorism, web 2.0. 510 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,150 Reading BitTorrent, BitTorrent didn't exist in 2001. That's 511 00:28:27,150 --> 00:28:31,710 what they're using. This woman is unbelievable. I mean, really, 512 00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:35,850 really unbelievable. The AFP reports a couple of quotes from 513 00:28:35,850 --> 00:28:38,940 her our Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, 514 00:28:38,970 --> 00:28:44,520 you just got to love this woman. She's urging a much broader 515 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,210 society response in which the public helps curb a growing 516 00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:51,840 phenomenon of so called homegrown terrorism. 517 00:28:51,869 --> 00:28:57,689 This is part of that plan of Obama to create a militia. Yeah, 518 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,870 and let me tell you about the militia. That here's a quote, 519 00:29:00,990 --> 00:29:04,050 there's actually an important role we can play in educating 520 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,710 even our very young about watching for and knowing what to 521 00:29:07,710 --> 00:29:11,880 do. Oh, brother, yeah, kids, if you're in an airport, you see a 522 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,340 package left with no one around. However, she's not advocating a 523 00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:20,520 culture of spying on one another, oh, no, we have to be 524 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,350 careful, we need to strike a balance. As an example, we have 525 00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:25,470 to 526 00:29:25,829 --> 00:29:27,359 balance between spying, 527 00:29:27,660 --> 00:29:30,450 we have to be respectful of mosques and other Islamic 528 00:29:30,450 --> 00:29:33,870 institutions by on them we have to be very careful about 529 00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:37,320 profiling a religious institution justice, we have to 530 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,050 be careful about profiling individuals we have to be very 531 00:29:40,050 --> 00:29:43,290 very careful about interfering with the free exercise of 532 00:29:43,290 --> 00:29:48,420 religion. But you know, to tell to tell people that we have to 533 00:29:48,420 --> 00:29:51,180 educate are very young to be aware. I mean, what happened to 534 00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:54,270 Innocence man, what happened to just riding around your bike as 535 00:29:54,270 --> 00:29:57,780 a kid and just goofing off? Now we got to like, do goofy 536 00:29:58,020 --> 00:30:03,390 kids, you know, goofing off back to work. Hey, you should report 537 00:30:03,390 --> 00:30:05,790 that paper shack that sitting over there put somebody's lunch 538 00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:06,090 in it. 539 00:30:07,829 --> 00:30:11,999 It's horrible. It's really, really hard. It's you just 540 00:30:11,999 --> 00:30:16,199 justifying the entire means for the existence of her department 541 00:30:16,199 --> 00:30:21,209 or what is this? What is this about? This woman stupefies me? 542 00:30:21,660 --> 00:30:24,150 Well, the whole department should be disbanded. 543 00:30:24,210 --> 00:30:26,730 Unfortunately, it's too late. This is typical government, by 544 00:30:26,730 --> 00:30:29,250 the way, you set something up, or it's only going to be here 545 00:30:29,250 --> 00:30:31,980 when we need it. And that's it. It just takes over it does 546 00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:34,260 everything it can to grow and grow and grow and get bigger and 547 00:30:34,260 --> 00:30:36,960 bigger bear because the bigger it gets, the higher the pay for 548 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:45,270 the guy at the top. Or the or the or the gal by rate. Of 549 00:30:45,270 --> 00:30:45,540 course, 550 00:30:45,539 --> 00:30:51,809 the the national level exercise 09 is in in full force this 551 00:30:51,809 --> 00:30:57,599 week, which we talked about on Sunday. And there's been 552 00:30:57,839 --> 00:30:59,759 actually some stuff I want to talk about at the end of the 553 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:02,939 show, because what's going on in New Jersey and is completely 554 00:31:02,939 --> 00:31:07,349 underreported is pretty amazing. I'm really just going to keep 555 00:31:07,349 --> 00:31:10,289 that until the end. Did you really okay. Okay, I'm gonna 556 00:31:10,289 --> 00:31:12,779 keep that to the end. But I want to say this clip, John, this is 557 00:31:12,779 --> 00:31:17,549 a YouTube clip. And this kind of this is the scariest thing I 558 00:31:17,549 --> 00:31:20,909 have seen. Hold on. Let me see if I can get you the link is the 559 00:31:20,909 --> 00:31:26,729 scariest thing I've seen in years. Although it it did happen 560 00:31:26,729 --> 00:31:32,549 on a US carrier, and you go flight 857 from San Francisco to 561 00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:38,399 Shanghai. So the aircraft arrives at Pudong airport pulls 562 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:42,419 into the gate passengers are requested to remain seated. And 563 00:31:42,419 --> 00:31:45,599 then these five or six guys in complete control, white 564 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:49,079 containment suits walk onto the plane, so they're completely 565 00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:51,899 covered in white. They've got the goggles on and they have 566 00:31:51,899 --> 00:31:55,109 these radar thermometer guns and they point them at each person's 567 00:31:55,109 --> 00:31:57,899 forehead and read their temperature to see if they have 568 00:31:57,899 --> 00:32:01,589 swine flu. But look at the video man. It will freak you out. 569 00:32:02,010 --> 00:32:02,970 You guys sent me a link. 570 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,050 I just I just gave you the link take a look at it. I want you to 571 00:32:07,050 --> 00:32:10,080 see I want to hear your reaction because you look at you like oh 572 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,180 my god it's a fucking science fiction movies. 573 00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:15,150 Sounds like those guys in the Star Wars. 574 00:32:15,180 --> 00:32:17,970 It looks it looks just like what do you call those guys the 575 00:32:17,970 --> 00:32:19,530 centuries or whatever? I 576 00:32:19,529 --> 00:32:21,179 can't remember their names. Somebody in the chat room knows 577 00:32:21,179 --> 00:32:23,789 you know the guys in the white Yeah. Are you looking at the 578 00:32:23,789 --> 00:32:27,929 clip? Yeah, it looks like the somebody did this. This is 579 00:32:27,929 --> 00:32:28,379 bullshit. 580 00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:32,070 No, that's not bullshit. That's real. Look at the clip. Really? 581 00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:34,860 Look at it. It's not bullshit. That's a full aircraft. 582 00:32:36,210 --> 00:32:40,260 I think there's somebody who's punked No, no, no, no, no. Why 583 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,500 this isn't like I've ever seen it looks like they gotta shoot 584 00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:47,430 everybody you know, let's do this with these phoney guns at 585 00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:49,590 first and then we'll come in with real guns and wipe these 586 00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:53,580 people out. That's what it looks like. It's a practice 587 00:32:53,639 --> 00:32:57,119 I think first of all, I don't think it's you can't punk stuff 588 00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:59,879 like that on an aeroplane you just can't do that stuff. It 589 00:32:59,879 --> 00:33:02,129 just doesn't work that way not while you're at the gate you 590 00:33:02,129 --> 00:33:06,029 don't have five guys in white suits come in with radar manage 591 00:33:06,029 --> 00:33:07,019 and I don't think so. 592 00:33:07,050 --> 00:33:09,900 You have some fake some fake credentials you get a couple of 593 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:13,230 people with cameras it's just too well shot no it's 594 00:33:13,230 --> 00:33:16,560 not it's just on a regular camcorder people get good video 595 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,400 all the time. 596 00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:21,180 And then these guys come in they shoot the gun at a few people 597 00:33:21,180 --> 00:33:23,190 and then they leave and next thing you know it's all over the 598 00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:24,420 place is ridiculous. 599 00:33:24,450 --> 00:33:27,360 All right, you can find it in the show notes that no 600 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,300 agenda.media.com Of course on our 601 00:33:30,299 --> 00:33:32,939 blog at two you can get it on divorce that org slash blog I 602 00:33:32,939 --> 00:33:33,929 have the video up 603 00:33:34,170 --> 00:33:37,680 and no agenda show.com is also working now that results to our 604 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,760 squares Squarespace site. And as we were talking last week about 605 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,170 s dot 666 and the bioterrorism bill and all of this money that 606 00:33:46,170 --> 00:33:50,040 was appropriated years ago I ran across yet another fine Oh, 607 00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:52,560 John, did I just lose? Yeah, how did that happen? She wouldn't 608 00:33:52,560 --> 00:34:02,130 call him back oh oops that doesn't sound too good 609 00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:10,320 let's pull the plug on these two assholes. 610 00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:13,860 You could just see the guys at the AT and T headquarters saying 611 00:34:13,860 --> 00:34:19,920 exactly that. A fog of let's get them now do so I was about to 612 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,850 talk about, you know, the bioterrorism funding that was 613 00:34:23,850 --> 00:34:26,940 set up a couple of years ago. We talked about this on Sunday. And 614 00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:32,070 who was it was it it was Joe Lieberman who sponsored the that 615 00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:34,860 original bill and you know so they got all this money and I 616 00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:37,950 bumped across a John we are so in the wrong business dude. 617 00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:41,610 Because I was looking at you know, dude, I was looking at 618 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,770 what kind of money was being appropriated towards vaccine 619 00:34:46,770 --> 00:34:52,560 companies. For the of course for the swine flu. This is a site 620 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,550 that is just unbelievable the DI T R A, have you ever heard of 621 00:34:56,550 --> 00:35:02,490 this organisation? No. Okay, d t r a dot mil is the defence 622 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,920 Threat Reduction Agency, the Combat Support Agency of the US 623 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,190 Department of Defence assigned with a mission of safeguarding 624 00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:14,100 the United States and its allies from weapons of mass 625 00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:17,820 destruction. And of course, it defines WMD as chemical, 626 00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:21,660 biological, radiological, nuclear, nuclear, and high yield 627 00:35:21,660 --> 00:35:24,480 explosive weapons by providing 628 00:35:24,510 --> 00:35:27,240 a pile of bomb now qualifies. Yeah. 629 00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:31,890 And you see the amount of money being handed out to this, this 630 00:35:31,890 --> 00:35:39,480 one outfit, Avi. Forget the name of it. Shoot, 631 00:35:39,690 --> 00:35:44,340 well, this is like the $18 million website that you know 632 00:35:44,370 --> 00:35:48,210 that a simple website 80 million is do these companies are it is 633 00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:51,390 a business, but the company's expertise is not in actually 634 00:35:51,390 --> 00:35:54,840 doing anything any better than anybody else can do. But it's in 635 00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:00,360 getting the contracts. I mean, it's it's a it's an art to be 636 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,480 able to get these contracts and they're huge contracts and you 637 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,640 just essentially built the government it's 638 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,630 billions of dollars. And you're right, it is you know, they 639 00:36:09,630 --> 00:36:13,020 explain exactly how you get one how you get in on the programme. 640 00:36:13,020 --> 00:36:16,260 I get one of these, one of these contracts and that just 641 00:36:16,290 --> 00:36:19,380 outrageous and just used the amount of money being spent, 642 00:36:19,530 --> 00:36:24,000 particularly on the h one n one virus, which is coming from this 643 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,390 organisation is just astounding. 644 00:36:29,219 --> 00:36:33,299 Yeah, absolutely. Despite what we should be doing. 645 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,640 Here's the So this relates directly and actually the name 646 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,510 of Avi biopharma. Yeah, Avi biopharma. That's the you find 647 00:36:42,510 --> 00:36:47,370 the page, no byte loss and it to me, okay, because here's 648 00:36:47,370 --> 00:36:51,600 something I haven't been able to source this properly. So take it 649 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:58,440 for what it's worth. But this is how President Obama ties into a 650 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,980 lot of what's happening with swine flu on the back end. So 651 00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:04,800 I'm just going to read some of this verbatim to you. So George 652 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,620 W. Bush announced the international partnership on 653 00:37:07,650 --> 00:37:12,330 Avian and Pandemic Influenza, at the UN General Assembly on 654 00:37:12,330 --> 00:37:16,230 September 14 2005. So that's when affect the United States 655 00:37:16,530 --> 00:37:21,330 under United Nations law and the world horse, world horseshit, 656 00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:23,610 World Health Organisation, proportion 657 00:37:23,610 --> 00:37:25,680 organisation, that's the new name. 658 00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:28,500 Wait, don't say that, man. I don't want to get disconnected 659 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:34,800 again. So, you know, we are under W. H. O law in the event 660 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,130 of a pandemic emergency, which in effect is now in place, 661 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,190 according to the constitution of the World Health Organisation, 662 00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:44,370 whenever they say everyone must be vaccinated, we apparently 663 00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:46,920 have to do it. And of course, we're at threat level six. So 664 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,330 we're there Now, earlier that year in April 2005. And this is 665 00:37:51,330 --> 00:37:54,030 the part that I have not sourced and as a couple more things. So 666 00:37:54,060 --> 00:37:57,780 I'm not saying it's true, but it's interesting. Barack Obama 667 00:37:57,780 --> 00:38:01,590 then as a senator introduced the first comprehensive bill to deal 668 00:38:01,590 --> 00:38:04,800 with the bird flu threat. That was the avian act. According to 669 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,870 reports, Obama made significant investments in biotech companies 670 00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:14,550 involved in the development of bird and swine flu. Less than 671 00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:17,400 two months after sending to the United States Senate, Barack 672 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,880 Obama bought more than $50,000 worth of stock in two 673 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,030 speculative companies whose major investors included some of 674 00:38:24,030 --> 00:38:29,460 his political donors. One of the companies was his Avi biopharma. 675 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,640 And that started to develop a drug to treat the avian flu. In 676 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,390 March 2005, two weeks after buying about 5000 of its shares, 677 00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:42,090 Obama took the lead in a legislative push for more 678 00:38:42,090 --> 00:38:46,770 federal spending spending to battle the disease. He put 50 to 679 00:38:46,770 --> 00:38:51,450 $100,000 into into an account at UBS, which his aides say was 680 00:38:51,450 --> 00:38:56,220 recommended to him by his friend friend George W. Haywood, who 681 00:38:56,220 --> 00:39:00,210 was a major investor in Skyterra. And Avi biopharma. 682 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,720 Within two weeks of his purchase of the biotech stock February 683 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:07,530 22, Obama initiated what he's called, quote, one of my top 684 00:39:07,530 --> 00:39:10,710 priorities since arriving in the Senate, and that was a push to 685 00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:14,820 increase federal financing to fight avian flu. I mean, this 686 00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:17,040 just goes on and on and on and on. And 687 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,860 well, that's such a conflict of interest that I can't imagine 688 00:39:19,860 --> 00:39:21,360 somebody's not looking into it. 689 00:39:21,390 --> 00:39:25,230 Well, again, since you know, it really hasn't been been sourced 690 00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:28,740 very well, but I can give you just a here's a quick overview, 691 00:39:28,740 --> 00:39:33,600 which I like April 28 2005, Obama introduces the avian act s 692 00:39:33,630 --> 00:39:37,890 969. Senator Obama introduced the first comprehensive bill to 693 00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:41,250 address the threat of an avian influenza influenza pandemic. 694 00:39:42,210 --> 00:39:47,490 Then he warns of a flu pandemic in 2005. On June 6, released by 695 00:39:47,490 --> 00:39:50,610 Barack Obama and Richard Lugar, do you know who he is? 696 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,940 Yeah. Richard lugarde. Dick Lugar, he's one of the senators. 697 00:39:53,970 --> 00:39:54,330 Okay. 698 00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:57,000 It is essential for the international community led by 699 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,400 the United States to take decisive action to prevent a 700 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,920 pandemic. What should we do? Recently the World Health 701 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,770 Organisation called for more money and attention to devote it 702 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,770 to be devoted to effective preventative action appealing 703 00:40:07,770 --> 00:40:11,490 for $100 million accelerating research into avian flu vaccines 704 00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:17,670 and antiviral drugs is what we need to do so and then you look 705 00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:22,590 at the money that came from the spacing on it for a second is 706 00:40:22,590 --> 00:40:28,050 one of these like non urban Urban Health Initiatives 707 00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,840 something else that he sponsored that money went directly to avi 708 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,700 biopharma so we need 709 00:40:32,940 --> 00:40:35,130 to do all of this all of this swine flu thing is all about the 710 00:40:35,130 --> 00:40:37,170 money it's not about killing anybody. Oh, it's about the 711 00:40:37,170 --> 00:40:41,490 money and testing adjuvants simple. And then they obviously 712 00:40:41,490 --> 00:40:45,090 they give a lot of money to the to the W H. O. And then that 713 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,120 stupid woman that runs it who by the way, if you get to ever see 714 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,590 her speak, she seems like out and out idiot here channels and 715 00:40:52,590 --> 00:40:57,000 then her name. Yeah. And she. I mean, if you ever watched the 716 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,020 old math TV show, and you ever saw Miss Swann, this is this 717 00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:05,190 woman. So anyway, she they give him a lot of money. And they say 718 00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:07,620 that, you know, it'd be back channels that look, you know, if 719 00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:11,160 you crank up the you know, let's, we got a bunch of people 720 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,000 making this stuff, we got to give him some reward. So can you 721 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,790 make it a level six threat? You know, what 722 00:41:17,790 --> 00:41:20,970 is her background? Where's this? Margaret Chan from general 723 00:41:20,970 --> 00:41:21,420 Russian 724 00:41:21,419 --> 00:41:26,009 was in either China. I think she's she's from China, and she 725 00:41:26,249 --> 00:41:29,309 was behind she was one of the investigators or what were the 726 00:41:29,339 --> 00:41:32,549 head of Hong Kong's Health Department. She's got the 727 00:41:32,549 --> 00:41:37,919 background of doing stuff in the health industry as a bureaucrat. 728 00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:41,279 So executives from Baxter Of course, that's the company that 729 00:41:41,309 --> 00:41:45,509 tried to slip in the virus into a regular flu shot. Novartis, 730 00:41:45,539 --> 00:41:48,959 GlaxoSmithKline, and Sanofi Pasteur all have seats on the 731 00:41:48,959 --> 00:41:54,629 advisory group that recommended on July 13, mandatory h one n 732 00:41:54,629 --> 00:41:59,489 one vaccination of everyone in all 194 countries that belong to 733 00:41:59,489 --> 00:42:01,109 the World Health Organisation. 734 00:42:01,650 --> 00:42:03,240 I wonder why they do that. 735 00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:10,200 And this is this is report just released. And Dr. Margaret Chan 736 00:42:10,830 --> 00:42:16,170 did not give the press briefing herself in Geneva, it was Dr. 737 00:42:16,170 --> 00:42:20,160 Marie Paul Climie, who stepped in to announce that, quote, 738 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,740 vaccines will be needed in all countries. 739 00:42:23,909 --> 00:42:26,609 So yeah, that's just a money grab. Now, that's the thing my 740 00:42:26,609 --> 00:42:30,119 wife pointed out to me was the fact that the WGA, we've made 741 00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:33,179 some sort of an agreement, the country has made an agreement 742 00:42:33,179 --> 00:42:36,389 with the W H O. And if they declare some sort of an 743 00:42:36,389 --> 00:42:39,209 epidemic, which they pretty much have and say that we have to 744 00:42:39,209 --> 00:42:45,149 have a shot. And we buy because of the treaty, we require, 745 00:42:45,449 --> 00:42:48,299 despite the fact that it's unconstitutional to require a 746 00:42:48,299 --> 00:42:51,449 vaccination in the United States of America. But because of the 747 00:42:51,449 --> 00:42:54,059 treaty, there's some way they're going to try to try 748 00:42:54,060 --> 00:42:56,460 to force us to take a shot. Right. That's what I just said, 749 00:42:56,460 --> 00:42:58,410 everyone who joins with the with Yeah, 750 00:42:58,409 --> 00:43:00,959 so what you just said, I'm just saying, once again, 751 00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:03,389 just give your white credit for what I just said, is that what 752 00:43:03,389 --> 00:43:04,439 you're saying? Yeah, 753 00:43:04,830 --> 00:43:08,400 so but let's be let's, here's what's going to happen, 754 00:43:08,850 --> 00:43:11,190 somebody's going to have to challenge this immediately and 755 00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:13,710 get it into the court system as fast as they cancelled, it goes 756 00:43:13,710 --> 00:43:15,780 into the it gets up to the Supreme Court. So they can say 757 00:43:15,780 --> 00:43:18,810 this is unconstitutional, you can't do this. I don't care what 758 00:43:18,810 --> 00:43:21,180 agreement you made. You can't have, you know, this is like, 759 00:43:21,210 --> 00:43:24,870 this has always bothered me, by the way, that non disclosures 760 00:43:25,110 --> 00:43:27,750 have always irked me because they're against the First 761 00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:29,700 Amendment rights. I mean, if 762 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,670 you're talking about now, 763 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,660 this is like in a in a in any corporation or if you're working 764 00:43:36,660 --> 00:43:39,180 for somebody, you'd get these agreements, these nondisclosure 765 00:43:39,180 --> 00:43:42,000 you, you'd say that you will never say anything about this. 766 00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:45,450 There's a contract. But when does a contract? What can I when 767 00:43:45,450 --> 00:43:50,220 can a contract violate the basic constitution? It's an illegal 768 00:43:50,220 --> 00:43:53,130 contract. There's no way that I can sign my rights to say 769 00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:56,850 something away. In the United States of America, it's bull 770 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,030 Well, 771 00:43:58,409 --> 00:44:02,099 aren't you allowed to enter into private contracts is not part of 772 00:44:02,099 --> 00:44:02,909 the Constitution. 773 00:44:02,909 --> 00:44:05,849 But I can do anything. I can say, I'm going to do this and 774 00:44:05,849 --> 00:44:07,439 that and the other thing, but there's no way they're going to 775 00:44:07,439 --> 00:44:10,649 be able to sue me. I can't have Okay, if that's true, then why 776 00:44:10,649 --> 00:44:14,369 don't I enter in a private contract for slaves? That's a 777 00:44:14,369 --> 00:44:16,499 private contract that brought these guys over from Africa. 778 00:44:16,529 --> 00:44:20,189 They signed here. And they said they'd be slaves. No problem. 779 00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:22,350 What do you think all those people let me do our dude, 780 00:44:22,380 --> 00:44:24,330 what's up to do squat? Now? 781 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,959 I'm just telling you that would what's the difference? What's 782 00:44:27,959 --> 00:44:29,969 the difference between a nondisclosure and an agreement 783 00:44:29,969 --> 00:44:33,569 to be a slave? How is it constitutional? So how's it 784 00:44:33,569 --> 00:44:36,149 constitutional? We are forced to take vaccines. 785 00:44:36,929 --> 00:44:39,329 Well, we've discussed this on the show John and you've learned 786 00:44:39,329 --> 00:44:39,659 gadget 787 00:44:39,659 --> 00:44:41,789 all the time, I just get more asked about every time it comes 788 00:44:41,789 --> 00:44:42,029 up. 789 00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:45,510 So who is going to challenge this? This is a very good 790 00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:48,420 question who is going to stand up and challenge it considering 791 00:44:48,420 --> 00:44:51,600 that every just about every single politician in the system, 792 00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:55,830 one way or another is tied into Big Pharma? So I know by your 793 00:44:55,830 --> 00:44:58,590 argument, that this is all about money, and I think most of the 794 00:44:58,590 --> 00:45:03,060 middle layer Maybe even on the edges of the middle layer of 795 00:45:03,060 --> 00:45:06,180 what's going on here. It is all about greed and money, but at 796 00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:08,940 the same time, it is kind of dangerous. 797 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,869 You know, you want to mess it up as a guinea pig, that's for 798 00:45:12,869 --> 00:45:13,349 sure. 799 00:45:13,469 --> 00:45:16,979 Well, the public is but it's gotten so bad the public is 800 00:45:17,009 --> 00:45:19,289 willingly giving themselves up as guinea pigs do, you 801 00:45:19,290 --> 00:45:24,330 know? Let him do it. But I mean, the point is, is that what the 802 00:45:24,330 --> 00:45:27,600 forced ones are the ones that are somewhat irksome. If you 803 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,660 play the clay, here's a clip for you. And that clipless there's 804 00:45:30,660 --> 00:45:35,040 one look for one that says, blue coming back. Yeah, I play that. 805 00:45:35,340 --> 00:45:38,550 They should stay home from school for seven days, at least 806 00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:41,850 if it looks like they have swine flu. And people who are sick 807 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:47,430 should actually wear masks at home. Also wash your imagine 808 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,680 honey, you can't kiss me I'm wearing my mask wearing 809 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,990 masks. This ad is on the CBS local news telling us about 810 00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:58,800 swine flu and 811 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,830 tell me there's more. There's more. 812 00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:04,890 sneeze and cough into your sleeve, 813 00:46:05,130 --> 00:46:08,730 sneezing cloth, cough into your wife's mouth. That's much fun, 814 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:09,180 not your 815 00:46:09,180 --> 00:46:12,870 hand. Vaccines are also going to be available but you must get 816 00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:15,930 one for the seasonal flu and a separate one for the swine flu 817 00:46:15,930 --> 00:46:17,370 which is two shots 818 00:46:17,699 --> 00:46:18,449 to the head. 819 00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:22,560 We'll be gearing up for onsite vaccination programmes in 820 00:46:22,590 --> 00:46:26,670 probably about 40 schools and Contra Costa will be doing drive 821 00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:28,620 thru vaccine, 822 00:46:29,070 --> 00:46:36,240 dry flu vaccine. Dry drive through and through my arm out 823 00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:40,320 the window. Here we go. Thank you can I have another 824 00:46:41,580 --> 00:46:45,030 programmes for the public in shopping centres beginning in 825 00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:45,570 November. 826 00:46:46,049 --> 00:46:48,239 In the meantime, the health departments are working with 827 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,299 each other and the school districts to track absences 828 00:46:51,570 --> 00:46:54,540 if another kid gets it, and we'll just bring him home and 829 00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:56,850 he'll be calling him will kill him at home. 830 00:46:57,659 --> 00:47:02,939 I think I think a lot of media why this guy is the public and 831 00:47:02,939 --> 00:47:03,929 listen to what he says 832 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,340 back Friday. The media around it has been around the fear web 833 00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:10,710 might be as opposed to what the flu turned out to be. 834 00:47:11,250 --> 00:47:14,130 It turns out the swine flu isn't more dangerous than the seasonal 835 00:47:14,130 --> 00:47:17,370 flu, but it's also here to stay won't be going away. 836 00:47:18,060 --> 00:47:22,320 We expect it's we coming back in the fall with larger numbers. 837 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,520 What we hope is that it doesn't come back with more severity. 838 00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:27,510 Please 839 00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:31,230 go away. Why is this we're not going away. 840 00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:35,070 It's like bad Mexican food. It comes back it doesn't go away. 841 00:47:35,070 --> 00:47:35,130 It 842 00:47:35,130 --> 00:47:37,920 won't be going away. It's coming back. It's never gonna go away. 843 00:47:37,949 --> 00:47:39,989 So here's where you got to be careful of you know, the most 844 00:47:39,989 --> 00:47:42,989 recent vaccination that they tried to roll and John, I am 845 00:47:42,989 --> 00:47:46,229 really buying into your money argument. Of course, I was 846 00:47:46,229 --> 00:47:51,449 hammering time and time again about this Gardasil, this HPV 847 00:47:51,449 --> 00:47:55,619 vaccine, which apparently would prevent your daughter's from 848 00:47:55,619 --> 00:47:59,039 getting cervical cancer which of course has been proven that it 849 00:47:59,459 --> 00:48:02,399 is not 100% effective. It didn't go through all the clinical 850 00:48:02,399 --> 00:48:06,029 trials. It was rushed through it was rolled out in almost exactly 851 00:48:06,029 --> 00:48:10,139 the same fashion with a fear based campaign, getting mothers 852 00:48:10,139 --> 00:48:13,049 and fathers to take their young daughters to get this frickin 853 00:48:13,049 --> 00:48:17,399 shot. And now a federal report. Oh gee whiz, has concluded that 854 00:48:17,399 --> 00:48:23,009 the HPV vaccine Gardasil has a 400% higher rate of adverse 855 00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:27,569 effects than any other comparable vaccine. Yeah, da 856 00:48:27,929 --> 00:48:30,179 because they probably have adjuvants in it. We haven't 857 00:48:30,179 --> 00:48:33,239 looked into it but I'm sure it was a beta test. And they just 858 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,619 wrote and even when boys to take this test this this vaccine for 859 00:48:37,619 --> 00:48:42,299 cervical cancer hilarious Are you nuts? Well, maybe 860 00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:44,400 you can grow a cervix when you get older you never know. 861 00:48:44,429 --> 00:48:48,179 But listen, researchers considered Gardasil and menactra 862 00:48:48,209 --> 00:48:51,119 equivalent for the purposes of comparison because I'm an actor 863 00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:56,909 is a anti meningitis shot. So they compare the two because 864 00:48:56,909 --> 00:48:59,039 they've given a similar age groups at similar frequencies. 865 00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:02,279 The study concluded Gardasil was associated with twice as many 866 00:49:02,279 --> 00:49:06,209 emergency room visits four times as many deaths, and four times 867 00:49:06,209 --> 00:49:10,589 as many heart attacks, seven times as many disabled reports 868 00:49:10,589 --> 00:49:14,939 and 15 times as many strokes, reported cases of blood clots, 869 00:49:14,939 --> 00:49:18,689 heart attacks, all associated with Gardasil, and that none of 870 00:49:18,689 --> 00:49:22,379 that happened or almost none of it happened with any other drugs 871 00:49:23,879 --> 00:49:27,239 you know, and and people just take their kids take them, take 872 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,669 them to the doctor, let that needle slip right in. 873 00:49:29,730 --> 00:49:33,900 It's nuts. Nobody pays attention anymore. No, the news 874 00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:36,480 is not reporting on it because the complacent they're a part of 875 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,280 it. They're part of the system 876 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,960 because the drug companies are the one of the biggest 877 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,640 advertisers in the world right now. Thank 878 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,840 you. Exactly. How can welcome media doesn't have any good 879 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,270 pharma advertisers. What the fuck is that? Can we at least 880 00:49:48,270 --> 00:49:49,260 get some of that money 881 00:49:50,489 --> 00:49:52,589 for you, but you don't have anybody that's got them to 882 00:49:52,589 --> 00:49:55,799 write. You know, this all rolodexes, right. He's got to 883 00:49:55,799 --> 00:49:58,409 find some guy with the with the drug company Rolodex he could 884 00:49:58,409 --> 00:50:01,799 probably you know, make the company a billion dollar company 885 00:50:01,799 --> 00:50:02,789 overnight. Hey, if 886 00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:05,400 you know anyone in the pharma industry, we'll be happy to make 887 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,390 a show. Like two to the arm. It's good kids, come on, we can 888 00:50:09,390 --> 00:50:14,490 do the job, we'll do that show. It's good for your kids vote for 889 00:50:14,490 --> 00:50:17,610 jobs. Minute. 890 00:50:19,230 --> 00:50:24,420 Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 891 00:50:26,699 --> 00:50:30,719 Meanwhile, the US Census Bureau never gets old does not the US 892 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,649 Census Bureau came out with, with what they predict will be 893 00:50:34,649 --> 00:50:39,779 the change in population. So they do a chart from 1950 to 894 00:50:39,779 --> 00:50:43,709 2050. It's a beautiful thing. John, let me just Skype you this 895 00:50:43,709 --> 00:50:48,809 link. You will. This, I love it when when government backs up my 896 00:50:48,809 --> 00:50:53,939 crackpot theories. So starting 2012, there's a significant 897 00:50:53,939 --> 00:50:59,759 decline in world population. It really goes from about 8 billion 898 00:50:59,759 --> 00:51:05,669 to autunno, close to 4 billion. Someone's on the list. What's 899 00:51:05,669 --> 00:51:07,619 that all look at this. Look at this look 900 00:51:07,620 --> 00:51:10,500 at last because you know the Chinese don't have having one 901 00:51:11,250 --> 00:51:15,390 child without having to pay extra taxes. And although the 902 00:51:15,390 --> 00:51:18,090 way Glenn Beck puts it, they grabbed the extra child and 903 00:51:18,090 --> 00:51:22,080 killed him. They take him out. Take him back. By the way, Glenn 904 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,800 Beck has been in the news to an extreme this week, which I want 905 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,050 to discuss for a second after you're done with this little 906 00:51:28,050 --> 00:51:31,410 bit. But the the, you know, there's that thing going around 907 00:51:31,410 --> 00:51:36,690 which we blogged, which is the world population, being able to 908 00:51:36,990 --> 00:51:40,200 fit the whole thing into Texas. And this guy says do the math. 909 00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:42,180 And so I did the math, by the way. 910 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,639 All right. So so we have to put this in the show notes, because 911 00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:48,899 that is it is a very interesting YouTube clip. And so again, the 912 00:51:48,929 --> 00:51:52,949 the premise is the entire world population could have a house 913 00:51:53,009 --> 00:51:58,559 and all fit with their house in the state of Texas. Yeah. Is 914 00:51:58,559 --> 00:51:59,519 this actually true? 915 00:51:59,670 --> 00:52:03,540 Yeah, actually, it's true by about point 1 billion people 916 00:52:03,570 --> 00:52:06,060 and what happens if we if we all flush the toilet at the same 917 00:52:06,060 --> 00:52:06,330 time? 918 00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:13,290 This Texas explode? Yes, Texas is flushed can't live that close 919 00:52:13,290 --> 00:52:15,330 together. There's no that you can't have that there's no 920 00:52:15,330 --> 00:52:17,340 infrastructure, it doesn't actually work unless you're 921 00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:18,330 living in mud hot. 922 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,839 If you melt up No, if you multiply should be townhouses, 923 00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:24,539 if you multiply the number of townhouses per acre, which is 924 00:52:24,539 --> 00:52:28,919 generally considered to be 35 per acre, and you multiply it by 925 00:52:28,919 --> 00:52:34,349 the 170, or plus million acres in Texas, technically, you have 926 00:52:34,349 --> 00:52:39,449 about 6.8 billion people that are possible to be shoved into 927 00:52:39,449 --> 00:52:41,999 Texas. Now, of course, there's no grocery stores or room for 928 00:52:41,999 --> 00:52:46,049 malls or anything else and all that important stuff. Like 929 00:52:46,049 --> 00:52:48,539 basically the people in the middle of this country of the 930 00:52:48,539 --> 00:52:50,699 state, especially when they get warmed up a little bit probably 931 00:52:50,699 --> 00:52:55,469 be dead. But technically, you could jam them all into Texas in 932 00:52:55,469 --> 00:52:59,519 a in a normal sized town house. And you could get the world's 933 00:52:59,549 --> 00:53:01,859 entire the world's population into the state of Texas, 934 00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:02,789 technically, 935 00:53:03,210 --> 00:53:07,470 okay, technically, but there are some calculations, there's a lot 936 00:53:07,470 --> 00:53:10,410 of room for growth, you got to make some, there's some 937 00:53:10,410 --> 00:53:13,500 calculations need to make for infrastructure, you know, like, 938 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,420 grocery stores, yeah, grocery stores, Best Buy RadioShack and 939 00:53:18,420 --> 00:53:20,760 all the stuff that we really need along with I don't know 940 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,450 plumbing, 941 00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:25,110 although now if you think about it. Now think about this. Hell 942 00:53:25,110 --> 00:53:29,640 with a town. This is townhouses, if you did high rises, you could 943 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,010 probably put the infrastructure in there because you'd have 944 00:53:32,010 --> 00:53:36,870 plenty of room instead of 35 houses single family dwellings 945 00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:40,530 per acre, so you could probably shove 1000 people or 2000 people 946 00:53:40,530 --> 00:53:41,370 in an acre. 947 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,910 Okay. And and where do we grow all the food to feed these 948 00:53:44,910 --> 00:53:45,810 people? You could probably 949 00:53:45,810 --> 00:53:48,810 still have one the rest of the country is all agriculture now. 950 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,170 And where do we go on vacation, by the 951 00:53:52,170 --> 00:53:55,020 way, and you run that that that road that goes to Mexico to 952 00:53:55,020 --> 00:53:55,350 catch 953 00:53:55,530 --> 00:53:59,040 up? I'm shipping you to Texas, screw you. You're the first to 954 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,130 start. I'm getting you one of those high rise plastic coffins. 955 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,980 We can stack those on top of each other beautifully in Texas. 956 00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:09,780 Just telling you. A nice note from Gitmo nation, South 957 00:54:09,810 --> 00:54:13,020 southern hemisphere from Simon he translated an official note 958 00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:19,050 from the Secretary of Health in Brazil. Tuesday, July 28, 959 00:54:19,050 --> 00:54:21,690 recommended to the public and private schools to postpone the 960 00:54:21,690 --> 00:54:26,100 return of lessons until the 17th of August. This measure has as 961 00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:29,520 an objective to reduce the transmission of the h1 and one 962 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,840 virus. Oh, yeah. I called Christina yesterday and said 963 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,090 Have they delayed the opening of your school yet? She says Not 964 00:54:36,090 --> 00:54:37,590 yet. But she'll 965 00:54:38,130 --> 00:54:41,940 wait, wait, wait, wait, did kind of the information has to be 966 00:54:41,970 --> 00:54:45,660 reinterpreted at least on this basis. It's the middle of winter 967 00:54:45,660 --> 00:54:50,490 in Brazil. So they may have some logic for doing this. Because 968 00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:53,250 it's the middle of winter and it's the flu season in Brazil. 969 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:58,260 Good point. It's not the flu season around here. Or England. 970 00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:07,709 Good point. Now I'm done with that. We're still way ahead 971 00:55:07,709 --> 00:55:12,419 another funny swine flu note from maybe it was from 972 00:55:12,419 --> 00:55:18,869 Argentina. Hold on, let me see find it. Damn, 973 00:55:18,989 --> 00:55:20,909 while you do looking for it, let's see what other clips we 974 00:55:20,909 --> 00:55:21,269 got. 975 00:55:22,949 --> 00:55:26,429 You only have one more I think that you haven't played yet. 976 00:55:27,809 --> 00:55:34,739 I'll tell you what we have we have Ennahda climate change 977 00:55:34,739 --> 00:55:37,109 maybe that's India climate change and we have icon 978 00:55:37,110 --> 00:55:39,150 display. That's a real coup since we're talking a little bit 979 00:55:39,150 --> 00:55:41,700 about some of this. But just as a real quick clip this was 980 00:55:41,970 --> 00:55:45,990 taken, there's not much publicity. Everybody knows about 981 00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:49,230 the climate change bill that that's being honest about knows 982 00:55:49,230 --> 00:55:51,750 that if we implement it, we're gonna be the only country in the 983 00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:54,510 world that does and the countries that are the super big 984 00:55:54,510 --> 00:55:57,570 polluters like India and China the rest they say Screw you, we 985 00:55:57,570 --> 00:56:00,390 think this thing is a bunch of bull. And this is what the India 986 00:56:00,390 --> 00:56:03,720 head of India's environmental department, he's the head 987 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,080 Vironment. Does he actually say screw you a bunch of ball, 988 00:56:07,290 --> 00:56:08,250 April, almost 989 00:56:08,460 --> 00:56:13,650 India's position is I'd like to make it clear and categorical. 990 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,870 India's position is that we are simply not in a position to take 991 00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:22,680 on legally binding, emission reductions, reduction 992 00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:26,309 targets. Developing countries like India don't want to be 993 00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:29,969 forced to slow growth in the name of reducing emissions, 994 00:56:30,539 --> 00:56:31,259 which is almost 995 00:56:31,260 --> 00:56:33,840 what a lot of it sounds like like it it really is about 996 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,500 slowing growth of the BRIC, the BRIC nations. 997 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,570 Well, and us 998 00:56:40,770 --> 00:56:43,260 know for us it's just taking more of our money away. 999 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,850 Yeah, we've already slowed growth. What am I thinking? We 1000 00:56:47,850 --> 00:56:48,660 got no growth. 1001 00:56:49,529 --> 00:56:54,389 We really don't we, what is unemployment up to now? 16% real 1002 00:56:54,389 --> 00:56:55,049 unemployment, 1003 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,320 real unemployment and unemployment number. That's, I 1004 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,690 think it's called David Dix or something like that. 1005 00:57:00,750 --> 00:57:05,730 David guar Gallia. Quit says it sends us a quick report from 1006 00:57:05,730 --> 00:57:09,090 soon to be Gitmo nation tropical South. Yesterday, I was watching 1007 00:57:09,090 --> 00:57:11,550 the new team Brazil, it seems the government agency that has 1008 00:57:11,550 --> 00:57:14,400 and again it's winter there that has the rough equivalent of the 1009 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,180 FDA has approved a batch of Tamiflu about one year over its 1010 00:57:18,180 --> 00:57:21,750 due date to be used in public hospitals. The report said the 1011 00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:25,050 maker asked the government to use this batch after it tested 1012 00:57:25,050 --> 00:57:28,320 samples for its stability, and concluded that it's still in 1013 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,420 good condition. This has actually happened in the States. 1014 00:57:30,420 --> 00:57:33,720 I've received a number of reports from a hospital 1015 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,660 personnel who say look, we have Tamiflu with a with an 1016 00:57:36,660 --> 00:57:40,230 expiration date. And we're being told that it's still okay to use 1017 00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:42,090 it. I don't know if that's typical. John, you being a 1018 00:57:42,090 --> 00:57:44,340 medical doctor, by former profession. 1019 00:57:44,969 --> 00:57:47,729 There's one thing I didn't get to be. But as a chemist, I can 1020 00:57:47,729 --> 00:57:50,789 tell you that half these things have the expiration date is 1021 00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:51,449 premature. 1022 00:57:52,650 --> 00:57:55,050 Luckily, most doctors are asking the patients to ignore the 1023 00:57:55,050 --> 00:57:57,960 government and to request pills still inside the validity 1024 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,260 period. And then David goes on to say on the other hand, who 1025 00:58:01,260 --> 00:58:05,040 cares about that when Taylor Swift is finally here in Brazil 1026 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,790 to help us with her wallowing music. And he sent us a nice 1027 00:58:08,790 --> 00:58:12,450 picture of the supermarket with some of the tabloids with Taylor 1028 00:58:12,450 --> 00:58:12,810 Swift. 1029 00:58:14,730 --> 00:58:15,780 For people who haven't heard it, 1030 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:21,060 I don't have that. Well, maybe I could find that somewhere. I 1031 00:58:21,060 --> 00:58:22,440 love Wayne Wayne, Wayne Wayne, 1032 00:58:22,860 --> 00:58:27,660 Reno. So David, totally. You're a full fledged producer from 1033 00:58:27,690 --> 00:58:31,770 from Gitmo nation, tropical South. You totally get it. I 1034 00:58:31,770 --> 00:58:34,830 don't have any of the Taylor Swift clips anymore. I don't 1035 00:58:34,830 --> 00:58:37,950 think John lately, 1036 00:58:38,909 --> 00:58:42,659 you gotta keep a library. at the ready. 1037 00:58:42,690 --> 00:58:45,660 Do you want to talk just really briefly about this podcast 1038 00:58:45,660 --> 00:58:48,540 patent because everyone who listens to the show is aware of 1039 00:58:48,540 --> 00:58:51,270 it. Everyone's talking about it. And I haven't really said 1040 00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:52,350 anything about it yet. 1041 00:58:53,340 --> 00:58:59,490 Let me brief people. A company called volo media has obtained 1042 00:58:59,490 --> 00:59:04,500 from the department of the love of the Homeland Security Patent 1043 00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:05,040 Office. 1044 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,060 Before and for your security, by the way, 1045 00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:12,990 our patent for podcasting and it was given to them I believe in 1046 00:59:12,990 --> 00:59:18,630 2003 Despite the fact that most of the internet I mean, 1047 00:59:18,930 --> 00:59:22,620 distribution of media on the Internet was in full force in 1048 00:59:22,620 --> 00:59:28,080 the late 1990s and by 2001 A couple of guys debatable who's 1049 00:59:28,110 --> 00:59:32,520 the primary person who I believe is Adam curry but it but Dave 1050 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,280 Winer, because he invented RSS likes to at least throw his name 1051 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,510 into that into that mix. So we have Dave Winer and Adam curry 1052 00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:45,090 as inventors of the podcasting model, in 2001. After we've seen 1053 00:59:45,090 --> 00:59:49,980 maybe two, three, maybe four years of media distribution over 1054 00:59:49,980 --> 00:59:54,480 the internet and various formats and methodologies. 2003 rolls 1055 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,440 around these guys. These guys unlike the curries, and the 1056 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,680 whiners out there who didn't think to put a patent 1057 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,970 application in, put one in after the fact when all the stuffs 1058 01:00:05,970 --> 01:00:09,000 already been done. So it's just a bogus patent. I'll tell you, 1059 01:00:09,630 --> 01:00:12,270 this company Volvo media, which I think was called something 1060 01:00:12,570 --> 01:00:16,200 else previously, I know this guy Merck gash the progression of 1061 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,830 our Because Ron and I met with him several times in 2005, when 1062 01:00:19,830 --> 01:00:24,480 we, before we even started pod show, I believe, at the time, he 1063 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,710 had this kind of weird he had, he had put together like a radio 1064 01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:32,550 system. And it was, the idea was, you'd have this thing in 1065 01:00:32,550 --> 01:00:37,500 your car. And, you know, stuff would be downloaded through 3g, 1066 01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:41,070 or whatever we're talking about at the time. And he even said, 1067 01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:43,980 oh, you know, we have many, many patents filed and all they had 1068 01:00:43,980 --> 01:00:47,520 actually had some radio guy from some local radio station kind of 1069 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,540 as his, his guy to help him with the content part. And, you know, 1070 01:00:51,570 --> 01:00:54,690 we just we talked a lot and we wouldn't say anything we can do 1071 01:00:54,690 --> 01:00:58,590 and like, you know, really like this guy just was no fit for us 1072 01:00:58,620 --> 01:01:03,750 at all. But he never he never really showed me even anything 1073 01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:05,400 close to what podcasts his 1074 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,090 name again. 1075 01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:08,160 Mer geschehen. Have are. 1076 01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:11,729 Is this any different because there's another Volvo media that 1077 01:01:11,729 --> 01:01:15,869 is run by this Jan DeVos. older guy, which may be a different 1078 01:01:15,869 --> 01:01:18,749 company. probably think it is actually. 1079 01:01:19,259 --> 01:01:21,839 Just maybe this company was actually just I just look at my 1080 01:01:21,839 --> 01:01:24,419 Gmail for a second. See if I can find anything from her. Gosh, 1081 01:01:24,419 --> 01:01:26,039 that'd be funny, wouldn't it? I could read some of my 1082 01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:27,569 correspondence over that. There. 1083 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,140 Let me see. I mean, is that actually do we know that's the 1084 01:01:31,140 --> 01:01:33,690 name volo media. VO Hello. 1085 01:01:34,409 --> 01:01:38,039 Yeah. VO lvo. ello. And let me just see if I have any more 1086 01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:40,619 geschehen my email. That will be kind of funny, wouldn't it? 1087 01:01:40,619 --> 01:01:47,699 Let's see. From on Gmail, do me justice. But oh, yes. Let's see. 1088 01:01:48,299 --> 01:01:48,569 See, I 1089 01:01:48,570 --> 01:01:50,160 get a Volvo Mita mot. Oh, 1090 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,850 here it was audio. Three different Volvo listen to audio 1091 01:01:53,850 --> 01:01:56,550 feast is what the company was called? 1092 01:01:56,910 --> 01:01:58,620 Audio feast audio feast. 1093 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,870 Remember, we had maj Weinstein and I kept laughing about oh, 1094 01:02:03,870 --> 01:02:06,450 let's go look. Let's go talk to more more guests from audio 1095 01:02:06,450 --> 01:02:10,410 yeast. Here's some of our correspondents Adam and Ron. 1096 01:02:10,410 --> 01:02:12,660 We're working on a one page proposal on how we can work 1097 01:02:12,660 --> 01:02:15,540 together. We're excited about the podcasting possibilities and 1098 01:02:15,540 --> 01:02:18,270 want to cooperate with your strengths. This is a heads up. 1099 01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:20,580 He's already he's already saying he didn't know what podcasting 1100 01:02:20,580 --> 01:02:21,450 was at the time. 1101 01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:24,959 Oh, that's that's a piece of evidence. 1102 01:02:24,989 --> 01:02:27,449 Totally evidence. Let me see what else I got. This is good. 1103 01:02:27,479 --> 01:02:31,019 Oh, I should have done this earlier. Yeah. Here Oh, I have a 1104 01:02:31,019 --> 01:02:34,319 proposal from him partnership and content possibilities. 1105 01:02:36,030 --> 01:02:38,220 You know what, maybe he's out to get you guys. 1106 01:02:38,670 --> 01:02:48,270 Maybe. Let me see. What is this? Okay, that's just a foreword is 1107 01:02:48,780 --> 01:02:52,410 add this guy to feast cast or podcast set. The guy didn't even 1108 01:02:52,410 --> 01:02:55,800 know what podcasting was. We talked to an audio feast. That 1109 01:02:55,800 --> 01:03:00,210 was that was his whole brand. That was his whole idea. How are 1110 01:03:00,210 --> 01:03:05,790 things going? He writes on June 28 2005. Our 2.0 release is in 1111 01:03:05,790 --> 01:03:09,120 beta now delivers all the top radio shows we carry as 1112 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,380 podcasts. These shows can be synced to iTunes or Windows 1113 01:03:13,380 --> 01:03:16,530 Media Player directly. So what he was doing is he was taking 1114 01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:20,550 radio shows from around the country and syncing them 1115 01:03:20,550 --> 01:03:24,330 somehow. Given this we have come to a decision we do not want to 1116 01:03:24,330 --> 01:03:27,450 be a front facing consumer brand when all of our technology 1117 01:03:27,450 --> 01:03:30,780 strengths are in the back end. We have content partnerships and 1118 01:03:30,780 --> 01:03:34,590 technology no need to be a consumer facing brand. I'd like 1119 01:03:34,590 --> 01:03:38,010 to chat and see if we can help pod show become big really fast. 1120 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:46,380 Open to chat. So I don't think there's I don't think there's 1121 01:03:46,380 --> 01:03:48,720 anything else real into this. There's probably some stuff 1122 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:53,400 around here. But Adam Rue gal, I believe now that's what's that. 1123 01:03:53,790 --> 01:03:56,340 Anyway, audio feast look into that company that was the 1124 01:03:56,340 --> 01:03:57,000 company. 1125 01:03:59,010 --> 01:04:02,880 Our lawyer or lawyer tells us that Adam could file a motion 1126 01:04:02,910 --> 01:04:06,480 for reexamination with the patent office and try to get it 1127 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,310 invalidated. Simple 1128 01:04:08,460 --> 01:04:11,730 Pinochet I tell you something, though, I'm so sick and tired of 1129 01:04:11,730 --> 01:04:13,620 fighting these fights for everybody 1130 01:04:13,620 --> 01:04:17,310 else fight just send a piece of paper and well, first of all, 1131 01:04:17,370 --> 01:04:22,050 I'm not going to do that. Because I don't know. Any work I 1132 01:04:22,050 --> 01:04:22,680 did and 1133 01:04:22,830 --> 01:04:23,550 Bobby do it. 1134 01:04:24,330 --> 01:04:27,120 I'm certainly not going to have Bobby do it. Any work that I 1135 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,150 did. And day one and I we were experimenting with this very 1136 01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:34,320 thing in the public with his software radio user land in 1137 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:40,410 2000 2001. You know, I, I worked with him on coming up with the 1138 01:04:40,410 --> 01:04:44,580 idea of the enclosure element and RSS, you know, and after the 1139 01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:47,310 fact you know, if this guy was really really smart and were 1140 01:04:47,310 --> 01:04:50,340 gash, he would have added his name to the podcasting wiki 1141 01:04:50,340 --> 01:04:53,340 page. This is what you're supposed to do. Douchebag This 1142 01:04:53,340 --> 01:04:55,770 is the time where we say Oh, Wikipedia shows that it's not 1143 01:04:55,770 --> 01:04:58,860 true. And I'm just waiting for all these other people to hop on 1144 01:04:58,860 --> 01:05:01,170 board saying they invented pie podcasting, go look at the wiki 1145 01:05:01,170 --> 01:05:02,880 page and you'll see what I'm talking about. 1146 01:05:04,380 --> 01:05:06,420 Here it is just the one that you keep editing 1147 01:05:07,020 --> 01:05:10,860 consistently. As you put this guy in, we're guessing of our 1148 01:05:10,860 --> 01:05:15,390 invented podcasting in 2003. Here it is, here's a here's a 1149 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,110 potential from New Coke, New Coke guns. What it this is 1150 01:05:19,110 --> 01:05:22,320 great. This is funny, John. Oh, my God. 1151 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,200 Is this on the Wikipedia page? You're looking at it? No, I'm 1152 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:33,600 looking at the email still. Oh, what was he saying here? The guy 1153 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,710 was he was radio stations to some kind of radio thing. And it 1154 01:05:37,710 --> 01:05:41,370 was a closed loop system. It had nothing to do with RSS that had 1155 01:05:41,370 --> 01:05:44,550 nothing to do with any syndication protocol. It was 1156 01:05:44,550 --> 01:05:47,070 taking shows from radio programmes that they were 1157 01:05:47,070 --> 01:05:48,870 licencing, which is why he didn't like the main 1158 01:05:49,020 --> 01:05:52,950 favours before we beat this to death, we should take a look at 1159 01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:55,590 this case patent. If you know we can look at 1160 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,100 somebody because I looked at the patent. And you look in the 1161 01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:02,160 patent that I find everywhere online does not include a lot of 1162 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,700 the stuff that he writes about his patent on his on his patent 1163 01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:09,750 page, which so I don't I really don't know, have you ever looked 1164 01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:12,690 at the USPTO website. And because I don't know how it 1165 01:06:12,690 --> 01:06:15,480 works. There's all these dependencies and all this weird 1166 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,420 stuff. And I don't know if those are then included in the patent. 1167 01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:21,840 Because the basic patent says nothing because I looked at it, 1168 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:28,830 of course, it says nothing about about downloading. But on his 1169 01:06:28,830 --> 01:06:34,620 website here, I'll send you what he says John. Here you go. So 1170 01:06:34,620 --> 01:06:40,740 his patent, which is 7568213. The only thing I could find 1171 01:06:40,770 --> 01:06:44,010 online about it other than his web page is a method for 1172 01:06:44,010 --> 01:06:47,100 providing episodic media the media comprised comprising 1173 01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:50,370 providing a user with access to a channel dedicated to episodic 1174 01:06:50,370 --> 01:06:53,550 media, or in the episodic media provided over the channel is 1175 01:06:53,550 --> 01:06:56,160 predefined into one or more episodes, blah, blah, blah, 1176 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,670 blah. But then he goes into all these the method of claim one 1177 01:06:59,670 --> 01:07:02,760 further comprising automatically providing the user with an 1178 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,360 indication of the availability of updated episodic media, I 1179 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,440 can't find that at the USPTO is filing. So did he just add that 1180 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,800 in? Or? Or is am I not? Do I not know how to read the Patent 1181 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,890 Office website, which is clearly not one of those $90 million 1182 01:07:17,220 --> 01:07:17,970 websites. 1183 01:07:19,380 --> 01:07:22,320 When I'm looking at the patent, now, what is claimed a method of 1184 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,050 providing episodic media, the method comprising you providing 1185 01:07:25,050 --> 01:07:28,620 a user with access to a channel dedicated to episodic media, 1186 01:07:28,620 --> 01:07:29,610 where in the episodic media 1187 01:07:29,790 --> 01:07:34,140 that only got but then it ends at the ability to modify the 1188 01:07:34,140 --> 01:07:36,810 channel depth by selecting selected public media con 1189 01:07:36,810 --> 01:07:39,450 episodic media content, thereby overriding the previously 1190 01:07:39,450 --> 01:07:42,630 configured channel depth, that's all it says. But below that, on 1191 01:07:42,630 --> 01:07:45,930 his own page, he's got these nine different methods of claim, 1192 01:07:46,140 --> 01:07:47,550 what is the method of claim? 1193 01:07:47,850 --> 01:07:51,300 Well, no, no, it's what the set apparently is supposed to be in 1194 01:07:51,300 --> 01:07:51,900 the patent. 1195 01:07:51,929 --> 01:07:55,079 But I don't see it in the patent. I don't either. So maybe 1196 01:07:55,079 --> 01:07:56,819 he's full of horse gooey. 1197 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:58,590 That could be 1198 01:07:59,580 --> 01:08:03,300 anyway, I never liked the guy, we couldn't work with him. He 1199 01:08:03,300 --> 01:08:03,990 had, he 1200 01:08:04,020 --> 01:08:06,120 tried to like him even less now. 1201 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,230 I don't care. I really don't care what the only problem is, 1202 01:08:10,290 --> 01:08:12,930 is that he's now talking to Apple. And John, you said to me 1203 01:08:12,930 --> 01:08:15,150 on the street the other day, as we were street walking, 1204 01:08:17,069 --> 01:08:22,499 we do that you said, I said that the first thing that did this, I 1205 01:08:22,499 --> 01:08:29,249 used to do a lot of nasty witness work. nasty shit. And 1206 01:08:29,249 --> 01:08:32,129 one of the things that you did the lawyers are always telling 1207 01:08:32,129 --> 01:08:36,029 you is the classic way that the that you handle a patent that 1208 01:08:36,029 --> 01:08:41,069 might be weak. And you want to get a bunch of royalties from 1209 01:08:41,069 --> 01:08:44,009 people just, you know, the first thing you got to do is you got 1210 01:08:44,009 --> 01:08:48,239 to find a big fish. And you go and you show them this pattern 1211 01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:50,579 and you say you want to you're going to have to want to charge 1212 01:08:50,579 --> 01:08:54,629 everybody for this patent, but Mr. Big Fish, I'm gonna let you 1213 01:08:54,629 --> 01:08:58,259 have the patent for free. Because there's no reason for 1214 01:08:58,259 --> 01:09:00,449 you know, you could just because just to get it out of the way, 1215 01:09:00,449 --> 01:09:03,449 and there's a million ways of selling this. And so now all of 1216 01:09:03,449 --> 01:09:06,389 a sudden, Apple then a press release goes out Apple, you 1217 01:09:06,389 --> 01:09:09,359 know, comes to an agreement, which of course means no money, 1218 01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:12,629 but doesn't say that comes to an agreement with Volvo media to 1219 01:09:12,629 --> 01:09:17,339 use the Volvo media, episodic patent for podcasting. And now 1220 01:09:17,339 --> 01:09:20,999 that is used to scare off all the little fish, because now 1221 01:09:20,999 --> 01:09:23,939 you're fighting against Volvo media. Do you think Apple is on 1222 01:09:23,939 --> 01:09:27,629 their side? Yeah, I mean, it just becomes a fiasco of of 1223 01:09:27,629 --> 01:09:31,709 sorts. But that was the first thing I said to you is, like I 1224 01:09:31,709 --> 01:09:34,679 just telling you that this is the way it's usually done. Boom, 1225 01:09:34,829 --> 01:09:37,859 within 24 hours, a press release comes out saying that he's 1226 01:09:37,859 --> 01:09:41,459 talking to Apple. He's not talking to him to get royalties 1227 01:09:41,459 --> 01:09:43,139 because Apple's not gonna give him a nickel. 1228 01:09:43,770 --> 01:09:47,550 So if you really do give a shit about this, and you think that 1229 01:09:47,550 --> 01:09:50,370 there's a problem, then if you're a lawyer, if you know a 1230 01:09:50,370 --> 01:09:53,880 lawyer, I'll sign my name under anything you want. And I'm sure 1231 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:58,200 Dave Winer will do the same, but I really feel that there's no 1232 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,190 reason for me to be camera. lot and jump on this and go 1233 01:10:02,190 --> 01:10:05,490 screaming about it. It's just, it's lame. I think I've got 1234 01:10:05,490 --> 01:10:08,220 evidence the guy didn't know what podcasting was he was he 1235 01:10:08,220 --> 01:10:10,740 was looking at a completely different system. And if 1236 01:10:10,740 --> 01:10:14,610 anything, hey, you know what? I think I have an NDA with that 1237 01:10:14,610 --> 01:10:15,090 dude. 1238 01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:18,540 Well go dig it up. 1239 01:10:22,020 --> 01:10:27,240 And now back to real. Lady magazines are in trouble. 1240 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,640 Usually the mags gorge on ads for their September issues often 1241 01:10:32,670 --> 01:10:36,210 inches thick. And by far the biggest of the year the fall 1242 01:10:36,210 --> 01:10:39,570 issues fat revenues bursting at the seams usually carry them 1243 01:10:39,570 --> 01:10:42,090 through the Lean months after Christmas. However, plummeting 1244 01:10:42,090 --> 01:10:45,720 ad sales combined with lower circulation rates means quite a 1245 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,240 few won't have reserves to make it through hibernation. The 1246 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:53,070 reason is because women according to Liz Jones of The 1247 01:10:53,070 --> 01:10:56,700 Daily Mail, women are sick and tired of looking at beautiful 1248 01:10:56,700 --> 01:11:00,930 photoshopped Botox chicks. They want it to be real. They find 1249 01:11:00,930 --> 01:11:03,780 the magazines patronising fake and pointless 1250 01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:06,030 to new generation. 1251 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,090 I think they're onto something. I think that now that we 1252 01:11:09,090 --> 01:11:12,330 actually know how Photoshop works, that women are saying 1253 01:11:12,330 --> 01:11:13,410 screw that shit. 1254 01:11:14,220 --> 01:11:16,440 Yeah, actually, Photoshop may have ruined it. 1255 01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:19,530 Well, Photoshop created while I get it's an airbrush, 1256 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,680 it all stems from I think a lot of it stems from that picture of 1257 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,960 Faith Hill that was on the cover, I think Cosmo or one of 1258 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,420 these magazines. And then they showed up on the internet with 1259 01:11:27,420 --> 01:11:30,720 the before and after. And she was like, Faith hills, who was a 1260 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,900 good looking woman was so photoshopped. I mean, she made 1261 01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:38,610 it look like she was 17 it was I think it was an eye opener for a 1262 01:11:38,610 --> 01:11:41,790 lot of people to do it shouldn't need to do that with every 1263 01:11:41,820 --> 01:11:46,140 every single magazine. Certainly the cover every single one is 1264 01:11:46,170 --> 01:11:50,640 photoshopped, retouched graded everything and even for 1265 01:11:50,670 --> 01:11:55,650 especially for technology, magazines. Everything is 1266 01:11:55,650 --> 01:11:58,470 photoshopped. Everything is made to look more beautiful, fake and 1267 01:11:58,470 --> 01:12:01,380 is not real. Maybe that's a part of why all this stuff is going 1268 01:12:01,380 --> 01:12:04,110 down the drain, John, besides the shoddy reporting, 1269 01:12:04,650 --> 01:12:12,990 yeah, everything's fake. I got some news, real news. And now we 1270 01:12:12,990 --> 01:12:16,200 get to this huge scandal going on in Australia. That is really 1271 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,460 interesting. There's this morning show, to talk radio 1272 01:12:20,460 --> 01:12:22,440 show. Good morning, Australia, 1273 01:12:22,710 --> 01:12:23,520 to day 1274 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,380 to day to day showing. And there's a Kyle and Jackie are 1275 01:12:28,380 --> 01:12:31,230 these two hosts in this and they run the show. And so they they 1276 01:12:31,230 --> 01:12:34,530 had this idea that was going to be so funny. Let's get a lie 1277 01:12:34,530 --> 01:12:38,100 detector and put some teenager on it and then see what we have 1278 01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:41,820 our mom griller about stuff. So they found this girl and they 1279 01:12:41,970 --> 01:12:44,160 didn't she didn't want to do it. She didn't want to do she didn't 1280 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,190 want to do it. They made her do it. They hooked up to a lie 1281 01:12:47,190 --> 01:12:49,890 detector test and they started asking a question. Do you ever 1282 01:12:49,890 --> 01:12:53,190 have sex every day with a boy? Do you ever kiss? And the girl 1283 01:12:53,190 --> 01:12:55,260 says I'm not saying I already talked about this before it 1284 01:12:55,260 --> 01:12:58,740 didn't and they start giving her a bad time. And she says okay, 1285 01:12:58,740 --> 01:13:04,590 okay, I was raped when I was 12 Jesus Christ of my god, hell has 1286 01:13:04,590 --> 01:13:05,610 broken loose and 1287 01:13:05,610 --> 01:13:07,080 rightfully so and 1288 01:13:07,529 --> 01:13:11,369 getting by whom? I mean, the government's involved they're 1289 01:13:11,369 --> 01:13:14,879 wondering why this went without being reported. Why did the mom 1290 01:13:14,879 --> 01:13:17,609 what was the point of this lie detector thing? What was the 1291 01:13:17,609 --> 01:13:20,819 show's involvement? I mean, everybody's in on this. This is 1292 01:13:20,819 --> 01:13:24,269 a huge scandal talking about taking the spotlight away from 1293 01:13:24,419 --> 01:13:27,059 you know the Nothing to see here. thing this is just as as 1294 01:13:27,059 --> 01:13:27,959 the killer 1295 01:13:29,130 --> 01:13:34,230 poor girl, a poor girl. Don't look over here. Nothing to see. 1296 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:39,870 Look at that. That's horrible. You bought me out with that one. 1297 01:13:39,870 --> 01:13:40,170 John, 1298 01:13:40,170 --> 01:13:42,420 just to let you know Australia. We are listening. Listening to 1299 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:47,550 we do care. Okay. I just wanted to talk briefly about New 1300 01:13:47,550 --> 01:13:56,010 Jersey. Of course, there were like 40 lawmakers arrested over 1301 01:13:56,010 --> 01:14:00,570 the past few weeks in in New Jersey. You know, it seems like 1302 01:14:00,570 --> 01:14:05,370 the mob is involved. It's you know, there's this. There's kind 1303 01:14:05,370 --> 01:14:08,340 of, I don't know exactly what these Jewish organisations 1304 01:14:08,340 --> 01:14:11,910 represent or which fraction they represent. But there's seems to 1305 01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:16,230 be some Israeli ties into this. I made some assertions to that 1306 01:14:16,230 --> 01:14:20,400 in one of our previous shows. Did you know that 11 letters 1307 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,310 containing suspicious white powder have been sent to 1308 01:14:23,310 --> 01:14:26,340 government and private offices in northern New Jersey in the 1309 01:14:26,340 --> 01:14:30,900 past 10 days, John? Nope. So of course, how 1310 01:14:30,900 --> 01:14:31,770 would I know that? 1311 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,580 G figure why would it be reported I have to say the star 1312 01:14:35,580 --> 01:14:39,300 ledger did report on this not the the biggest national 1313 01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:42,000 newspaper in the world. And as 1314 01:14:42,540 --> 01:14:45,480 which is right across the river? Yeah. And as 1315 01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:49,080 Yes, it is. So I'll just read you some of the report. This is 1316 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,830 now the FBI is copping to this. Now. Remember, this is anthrax 1317 01:14:52,830 --> 01:14:56,220 letters. Essentially, no one has been injured initial test showed 1318 01:14:56,220 --> 01:14:59,610 the powder did not appear to be dangerous authority said what 1319 01:14:59,610 --> 01:15:02,220 was it Then could you please tell me what was it? Was it 1320 01:15:02,220 --> 01:15:05,790 anthrax? Was it non lethal anthrax? Was it powdered sugar? 1321 01:15:05,790 --> 01:15:09,480 Was it heroin? What the hell was it? However, of course the 1322 01:15:09,480 --> 01:15:12,240 mailings prompt the temporary shutdown throughout Bergen and 1323 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:17,700 Passaic counties, while hazmat units investigated, hazmat, that 1324 01:15:17,700 --> 01:15:20,940 sounds Jewish just by itself. What is the hazmat unit? 1325 01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:24,990 Hazardous Materials are just materials. Those are getting 1326 01:15:24,990 --> 01:15:28,980 those white suits. There you go with the with the thermometer 1327 01:15:28,980 --> 01:15:29,340 gun, 1328 01:15:29,730 --> 01:15:32,460 and the FBI. The lead agency in the investigation released few 1329 01:15:32,460 --> 01:15:36,000 details of course, in each case, the powder was in an envelope 1330 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,750 that was inside another envelope since July 17. The agency said 1331 01:15:39,750 --> 01:15:43,920 letters were sent to locations in Tortola Clifton, that's where 1332 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,430 I used to live. Wayne Ringwood, which I think will be Ridgewood, 1333 01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:50,520 but Ringwood, Woodland Park and Fairlawn, all in New Jersey. 1334 01:15:50,730 --> 01:15:54,480 final testing on the three letters concluded there was no 1335 01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:58,410 evidence of biological agents. The agency would not say where 1336 01:15:58,410 --> 01:16:00,660 the letters were sent but the Fairlawn Police Department 1337 01:16:00,660 --> 01:16:04,140 confirmed one was received by police chief Eric rose on Friday 1338 01:16:04,140 --> 01:16:06,750 morning. The same morning another letter was delivered to 1339 01:16:06,750 --> 01:16:12,900 the Law Offices of of Vivino and Vivino. In Wayne, vino of a vino 1340 01:16:12,900 --> 01:16:15,660 healthcare immediate immediately. The office was 1341 01:16:15,660 --> 01:16:18,870 evacuated for about two hours emergency crews came in FBI is 1342 01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:21,390 working with the US Postal Inspection Service and local and 1343 01:16:21,390 --> 01:16:24,150 county investigators on the case. Letters containing 1344 01:16:24,150 --> 01:16:28,110 suspicious white powder have been common since 2001. Common 1345 01:16:28,620 --> 01:16:32,100 common What do you mean common? Where am I heard about this 1346 01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:35,190 since 2001. Letters containing suspicious white powder have 1347 01:16:35,190 --> 01:16:37,200 become common since 2001. 1348 01:16:37,350 --> 01:16:38,580 In Jersey maybe 1349 01:16:38,610 --> 01:16:41,550 when letters laced with anthrax powder, one of which was 1350 01:16:41,610 --> 01:16:44,400 processed at the post office in Hamilton Mercer County killed 1351 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,910 five people. In the past eight months alone white powder 1352 01:16:47,910 --> 01:16:51,150 letters forced workplace evacuations at a pharmaceutical 1353 01:16:51,150 --> 01:16:54,420 company in Montvale, a securities firm in Woodbridge 1354 01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:58,620 and offices of Senate President Richard Cody. Governor John 1355 01:16:58,620 --> 01:17:01,980 cozine, was also among 30 governors to receive white 1356 01:17:01,980 --> 01:17:04,020 powder letters left late last year. 1357 01:17:04,410 --> 01:17:06,960 They're suppressing this they're completely suppressing them. 1358 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,390 Well, they're doing it for a good reason. Because the 1359 01:17:09,390 --> 01:17:12,420 boneheads in this country and all I did is a great idea. 1360 01:17:14,190 --> 01:17:19,110 So of course, they say nothing happened. However, one of the 44 1361 01:17:19,110 --> 01:17:23,280 people arrested last week. This is according to Reuters. In a 1362 01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:27,330 sweeping federal probe of political corruption and money 1363 01:17:27,330 --> 01:17:31,380 laundering in New Jersey, one of the people has been found dead 1364 01:17:31,380 --> 01:17:35,730 in suspicious circumstances. Jack Shaw, you've heard of him, 1365 01:17:35,730 --> 01:17:40,740 John. I have I think you have longtime democratic political 1366 01:17:40,740 --> 01:17:43,980 consultant was discovered dead at his Jersey City home on 1367 01:17:43,980 --> 01:17:46,920 Tuesday afternoon in circumstances Hudson County 1368 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:51,900 prosecutor Edward De Fazio called suspicious however, the 1369 01:17:51,900 --> 01:17:54,510 prosecutor told The New York Times the death did not appear 1370 01:17:54,510 --> 01:18:00,090 to be murder. There's they're still working, still working on 1371 01:18:00,090 --> 01:18:04,290 Michael Jackson for like for like six weeks now. And within 1372 01:18:04,380 --> 01:18:07,380 three days, oh, this is not murder on us. There's nothing 1373 01:18:07,770 --> 01:18:10,710 when I gotta get my jingle. I'm slower. Nothing to see here. 1374 01:18:10,710 --> 01:18:20,010 Slow on the draw here. Exactly. So this, this whole corruption 1375 01:18:20,010 --> 01:18:25,050 thing is really, really underreported. And so this sharp 1376 01:18:25,050 --> 01:18:28,440 guy was basically he was wearing a wire he was the informant he 1377 01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:30,900 was he was talking to all of these time, 1378 01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:34,590 coincidentally wound up dead and it was a murder but it 1379 01:18:34,590 --> 01:18:37,830 gets better. He had been working for developers in northern New 1380 01:18:37,830 --> 01:18:42,630 Jersey. Previously, he worked for Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, 1381 01:18:43,530 --> 01:18:48,300 and former New Jersey Governor Jim Florio and helped with New 1382 01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:51,900 Jersey governor's John Cortines race for the Senate. I mean, 1383 01:18:51,930 --> 01:18:56,520 there is a lot of shit going on. So he introduced the informant 1384 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,620 to other officials who were charged in the massive 1385 01:18:58,620 --> 01:19:02,100 investigation of corruption, human organ sales and money 1386 01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:05,490 laundering involving several mayors and rabbis. 1387 01:19:06,090 --> 01:19:09,990 Rabbis angle is the one that gets me Well, yeah, well, hey 1388 01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:10,920 Ron a kidney. 1389 01:19:14,850 --> 01:19:17,190 That is the opening of the show. Right there. 1390 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:23,400 Say it again? No. To your own voice. 1391 01:19:26,010 --> 01:19:29,460 So just to follow up, those who were arrested were the mayors of 1392 01:19:29,490 --> 01:19:35,310 Hoboken. Secaucus, Richfield, state lawmakers, civil council, 1393 01:19:35,340 --> 01:19:38,700 city council members, zoning officials of building inspectors 1394 01:19:38,700 --> 01:19:43,260 and political candidates. The mayor of Secaucus Dennis lol 1395 01:19:43,260 --> 01:19:48,660 resigned on Tuesday, the New Jersey is just is is just bust. 1396 01:19:48,930 --> 01:19:51,960 You know, Letterman is doing bits on this. And here's the one 1397 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,530 that just just just dawned on me that after doing the rabbi, it's 1398 01:19:55,530 --> 01:19:59,160 like it let him It says you know, and that's all these guys 1399 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,580 are doing it It's changing kidneys, and there's a bunch of 1400 01:20:02,580 --> 01:20:06,660 rabbis, which really surprises me, he says, And when he says 1401 01:20:06,660 --> 01:20:10,890 that, Paul, yeah, out of the blue says, well, it doesn't 1402 01:20:10,890 --> 01:20:15,390 surprise me. Why they never do this like Letterman should have 1403 01:20:15,390 --> 01:20:18,360 stopped this what do you talk about? That surprise why? 1404 01:20:19,380 --> 01:20:21,030 He probably bought off a rabbi. 1405 01:20:22,620 --> 01:20:25,440 When did this become like take over from the diamonds? You 1406 01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:25,710 know? 1407 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,860 Alright, so so there's a whole bunch of theories about this. 1408 01:20:28,890 --> 01:20:33,870 And the crackpot command centre fax machine is is just all a 1409 01:20:33,870 --> 01:20:38,550 Twitter about about what's going on here. And so there's tie ins 1410 01:20:38,550 --> 01:20:42,570 into made off money being slipped through the rabbi's into 1411 01:20:42,570 --> 01:20:48,210 Israel. You know, the the the so called Israelis who were 1412 01:20:48,210 --> 01:20:53,280 cheering with the Urban moving company bus across the from the 1413 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,460 World Trade Centre when the towers came down. There's all 1414 01:20:56,460 --> 01:20:59,250 these different conspiracy theories. And all I can say is 1415 01:20:59,250 --> 01:21:03,390 where there's smoke, that could be some more smoke. So you know, 1416 01:21:03,390 --> 01:21:06,960 if you have any information on it, please. We'd like to know 1417 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:10,650 because this being so underreported, where you have 44 1418 01:21:10,650 --> 01:21:13,650 people arrested. Have you seen any of this on the news? John, 1419 01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,220 is this on CNN? Is this on MSNBC, having pictures of 1420 01:21:17,220 --> 01:21:21,510 guys in cuffs being hauled off with big FBI on their back? 1421 01:21:21,540 --> 01:21:26,070 Yeah, thank you. But they're not you know, so So I've been 1422 01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:28,650 working very, very hard on trying to figure out what's 1423 01:21:28,650 --> 01:21:32,070 going on so the two stories one is this one because it just 1424 01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:36,420 thinks to hell on high water. There's there's a good one, so 1425 01:21:36,420 --> 01:21:39,330 much fishing is going on with this and the fact that it's 1426 01:21:39,330 --> 01:21:43,770 being just not being covered at all at all. You know, what are 1427 01:21:43,770 --> 01:21:45,660 we going to see tonight? Tonight, we're going to see 1428 01:21:46,020 --> 01:21:48,540 gates with the with the cop drinking beer with the 1429 01:21:48,540 --> 01:21:50,940 President. That's the news you're gonna get tonight. 1430 01:21:51,030 --> 01:21:57,450 Meanwhile, lawmakers corruption, people dying anthrax letters on 1431 01:21:57,450 --> 01:22:01,260 and on about Glenn Beck's calling Obama racist and making 1432 01:22:01,260 --> 01:22:02,190 a big stink about 1433 01:22:04,350 --> 01:22:08,490 shit. So this is where you get some real news. On top of that 1434 01:22:08,490 --> 01:22:12,390 there is some of this, you know, and I am still interested in, in 1435 01:22:12,420 --> 01:22:15,570 President Obama's perhaps in his investments into 1436 01:22:15,570 --> 01:22:19,530 biopharmaceutical companies then pushing avian and swine flu 1437 01:22:19,530 --> 01:22:22,590 agenda. You know, this is real work that's going on here. And 1438 01:22:22,590 --> 01:22:26,550 by the way, we need your help on on doing this. 1439 01:22:26,970 --> 01:22:29,790 But that's a rough segue. But I agree that we should, now's the 1440 01:22:29,790 --> 01:22:32,850 time to ask people to give us a hand that we have a lot of 1441 01:22:32,850 --> 01:22:37,320 people that have, you know, come up to the plate and given us 50 1442 01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,630 or $100. And we mentioned them all on Sunday. So you get your 1443 01:22:39,630 --> 01:22:42,660 name mentioned. We also have a new night this week, which is a 1444 01:22:42,660 --> 01:22:45,180 good thing. I will mention him on Sunday with it. We maybe 1445 01:22:45,180 --> 01:22:49,230 should have a theme for these Why not today? Because I was 1446 01:22:49,230 --> 01:22:51,390 prepared to do it on Sunday and and I don't have his name 1447 01:22:51,390 --> 01:22:53,400 immediately in front of me. Okay, good, 1448 01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:57,150 but that someone donated US 1000 American, 1449 01:22:57,180 --> 01:22:58,650 which is really kind of a shocker. I 1450 01:22:58,650 --> 01:23:00,930 mean, I do have his name. What do you why don't we do a good 1451 01:23:00,930 --> 01:23:02,340 shout out now and on Sunday. 1452 01:23:02,369 --> 01:23:04,559 Okay, well, we'll tell us well, hold 1453 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,820 on. I mean, I've got it. I'm gonna search for the email. I 1454 01:23:08,820 --> 01:23:11,190 mean, clearly the system you're using doesn't anyway, the 1455 01:23:11,190 --> 01:23:14,790 point is, well, no, I might do with this machine. I mean, I 1456 01:23:14,820 --> 01:23:19,380 just I don't care. Basically podcasting machine. Like Well, 1457 01:23:19,380 --> 01:23:20,130 you got to pay more 1458 01:23:20,130 --> 01:23:22,860 geschehen of our some money for that, my friend. Okay. 1459 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,700 We'll get him an extra big guest. By the way, we're gonna 1460 01:23:26,700 --> 01:23:29,550 have a sheepskin I get it I've got a calligrapher lined up and 1461 01:23:29,580 --> 01:23:31,410 you know, they're gonna get something they can frame. 1462 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,390 Anyway, the point is, is that we need to go to no agenda dot 1463 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,750 squarish squarespace.com, and click on one of the buttons and 1464 01:23:39,750 --> 01:23:42,390 help us out and we want to thank everybody who has helped us out 1465 01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:49,710 and also go to a divorce.org/n A, and you ever put a link on 1466 01:23:49,710 --> 01:23:54,420 career.com? Through what to the to the Pay Pal account? 1467 01:23:54,780 --> 01:23:58,770 Every single every single show? Okay, every single What do you 1468 01:23:58,770 --> 01:23:59,640 tori.com 1469 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,600 Where you find, probably to the best podcasts in the world are 1470 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:10,200 posted there. 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One of the big things we, we you 1479 01:24:40,770 --> 01:24:43,290 know, we'd like to do three shows, and we really aren't 1480 01:24:43,290 --> 01:24:46,920 getting enough money and we get we get enough money to pay a few 1481 01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,410 bills, but we don't get enough money and to do three shows and 1482 01:24:49,410 --> 01:24:51,900 really dedicate even more time to this, but you should if you 1483 01:24:51,900 --> 01:24:54,750 listen to this show, you should feel guilty about the fact that 1484 01:24:54,750 --> 01:24:57,450 you're probably getting stuff I would say 90% of which you'll 1485 01:24:57,450 --> 01:24:59,880 never hear anyplace else. It's all pretty good. There's some 1486 01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:03,390 crap jackpot stuff. Yeah. But generally speaking is like stuff 1487 01:25:03,390 --> 01:25:06,330 that's probably valuable to you to know. And it's also good 1488 01:25:06,330 --> 01:25:09,210 conversation material when you go to a cocktail party. Yeah, it 1489 01:25:09,210 --> 01:25:12,180 can get you laid, I believe so. 1490 01:25:15,179 --> 01:25:23,009 I also wanted to plug the no agenda, mobile app version 1.2. 1491 01:25:24,569 --> 01:25:31,259 I think there's three of them in the iPhone iTunes App Store. But 1492 01:25:31,859 --> 01:25:35,309 I think you'll see now there's a now you can actually chat while 1493 01:25:35,309 --> 01:25:38,939 listening to the show, which is kind of novel. Anyway, there's a 1494 01:25:38,939 --> 01:25:41,309 couple of no agenda mobile apps. And then I think they're working 1495 01:25:41,309 --> 01:25:46,019 on some new features like a soundboard and stuff like that. 1496 01:25:46,019 --> 01:25:47,789 And by the way, any anything that you want to do with the 1497 01:25:47,789 --> 01:25:49,409 show, go ahead. 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No. agenda.squarespace.com are 1507 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,560 divorced.org/in A, 1508 01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:23,040 and then we also have no agenda show.com which goes to the same 1509 01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,930 place. Just kind of cool. 1510 01:26:25,110 --> 01:26:28,560 Is that? Did you light that up? Yeah, it's lit. fully lit. 1511 01:26:29,070 --> 01:26:31,590 It goes to no agenda@squarespace.com. So it's 1512 01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:34,320 just nothing to confuse our branding with 1513 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:40,710 views, Randy, we don't really even have a actual logo. Oh, 1514 01:26:40,710 --> 01:26:44,640 God. Here it comes. I think we could have a logo contest. 1515 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,270 The next thing I really want to focus on, John seriously is I'd 1516 01:26:48,270 --> 01:26:52,860 like to do a dinner a $500 a plate dinner, and I'm suggesting 1517 01:26:52,860 --> 01:26:56,460 that we just try one in Vegas. We only need 10 people for it to 1518 01:26:56,460 --> 01:26:59,220 be a success. We'll get you we'll get you a real good 1519 01:26:59,220 --> 01:27:01,770 dinner. Some real nice wine. It won't be some chicken 1520 01:27:01,770 --> 01:27:03,630 fundraiser, and it's gonna be easy. 1521 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,390 No, no, it's just gonna be a good day. I got a letter from a 1522 01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:09,180 guy says he can organise one in New York City if he if we will 1523 01:27:09,180 --> 01:27:09,690 let him. 1524 01:27:10,140 --> 01:27:13,470 Yeah, but but Vegas is so much better because there's almost a 1525 01:27:13,470 --> 01:27:16,800 cheap flight to Vegas from anywhere in the world. And let's 1526 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,280 just try it was to do a beta test in Vegas. Right we can do 1527 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:25,860 that. Besides, you know what else Vegas has? cookers. Coming 1528 01:27:25,860 --> 01:27:30,210 to you from the minimum security containment sell in the crackpot 1529 01:27:30,210 --> 01:27:35,400 command centre in the soon to be demolished. Loft location under 1530 01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:36,810 eminent domain in which will 1531 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:42,570 last on Sunday. I'm Adam curry and from Northern Silicon Valley 1532 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,690 where I'll be watching the wrecking ball hit Adams place. 1533 01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:47,130 I'm John C. Dvorak. 1534 01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,220 We're talking again on Sunday right here on no agenda.