1 00:00:00,030 --> 00:00:06,930 Hello, Hello, it's me, it's me. Adam curry. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,520 John C. Dvorak has 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,910 Thursday January 19 2017. And this is your award winning give 4 00:00:11,910 --> 00:00:15,660 on Asian media assassination Episode Eight Niner six this is 5 00:00:15,660 --> 00:00:20,820 no agenda, deconstructing hats and meet and broadcasting live 6 00:00:20,820 --> 00:00:23,760 from the darkest corners of the United care in downtown Austin 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,250 Tejas, FEMA return six occasion looking forward in the morning 8 00:00:26,250 --> 00:00:27,810 everybody. I'm Adam curry 9 00:00:27,870 --> 00:00:31,740 and from Northern Silicon Valley where a drought that we're 10 00:00:31,740 --> 00:00:35,700 experiencing that was going to take 10 years to disappear seems 11 00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:37,050 to have disappeared I'm Jhansi 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,420 Raglan buzzkill 13 00:00:40,860 --> 00:00:44,700 Wait a minute. You're telling me the drought is over. 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,600 Looks like we're getting pounded here. 15 00:00:48,630 --> 00:00:52,590 Oh pounded is certainly Jerry Brown. You don't mean pounded? 16 00:00:52,980 --> 00:00:55,080 Oh, you got slammed. 17 00:00:58,049 --> 00:01:02,039 botulin half of the shingles on my roof have blown off last 18 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:02,459 night. Oh, 19 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:03,420 really? Oh, man. 20 00:01:06,540 --> 00:01:10,560 I'm waiting for them to fall down and crush some of the stuff 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,850 in my backyard. Actually, 22 00:01:12,180 --> 00:01:14,610 actually half of them or just 23 00:01:15,660 --> 00:01:17,850 Lots. Lots. 24 00:01:19,530 --> 00:01:21,960 For those listening on the stream. Thank you for hanging in 25 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:23,430 there starting a little bit late. Some technical 26 00:01:23,430 --> 00:01:26,130 difficulties, but these will be discussed in tech news today. 27 00:01:26,790 --> 00:01:31,500 Actual tech news about some technological issues. Yeah. 28 00:01:33,390 --> 00:01:39,060 Well, we are over clipped today. It's obvious. 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,280 I don't have that many. 30 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:43,890 Yeah. And you kind of do. 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,230 I don't have three pages. 32 00:01:46,709 --> 00:01:52,259 The. So of course, we have the inauguration tomorrow. And it's 33 00:01:52,259 --> 00:01:54,389 interesting that we have the show today. A lot of people 34 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:59,429 won't hear this until tomorrow, I think. But I'm pretty sure 35 00:01:59,429 --> 00:02:02,399 everything's going to be okay. With the inauguration because 36 00:02:03,479 --> 00:02:06,479 crazy things only happen on show days. It doesn't happen on an 37 00:02:06,479 --> 00:02:07,529 off show day. So 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,640 yes. It should be a fantastic observation. It should 39 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:16,200 be okay. Yeah. But the narrative, if that's what you 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,800 want to call it, that the certainly the mainstream media 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,120 here in the United States of Gitmo nation has been pushing is 42 00:02:24,330 --> 00:02:28,620 a legitimate, a legitimate and yes, we're already talking 43 00:02:28,650 --> 00:02:34,050 impeachment of you. I'm sure you find it. I actually I got a 44 00:02:34,050 --> 00:02:35,280 number of these things. 45 00:02:35,369 --> 00:02:37,799 I don't have any of the impeachment clips because those 46 00:02:37,799 --> 00:02:38,999 are stupid. Yeah, the 47 00:02:39,060 --> 00:02:42,960 well, the impeachment stuff. Kind of all flows out of 48 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:50,130 shoeless, Shoeless Joe Jackson there. What's his name? John 49 00:02:50,130 --> 00:02:57,180 John Lewis, John Lewis, Shoeless Joe Jackson, exactly. Who has 50 00:02:57,210 --> 00:03:03,570 come out and has called the president elect a illegitimate 51 00:03:03,570 --> 00:03:05,970 candidate, and people taking this very seriously because, of 52 00:03:05,970 --> 00:03:09,480 course, he is a very serious guy. You know, he was in the he 53 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,730 was in Selma. And he, he was a 54 00:03:13,260 --> 00:03:14,310 vacation enough? 55 00:03:14,370 --> 00:03:19,830 Yeah. Actually, maybe I'll start with this. Because let me see. 56 00:03:20,430 --> 00:03:23,550 Here. Let me get the the impeachment thing. That's 57 00:03:23,910 --> 00:03:29,610 probably the best place to start. So we have where are we? 58 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:36,300 Here we go. This is Chris Matthews on MSNBC. And he is who 59 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:39,120 does he talking to hear me say? Well, let's talk about where 60 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:45,750 that leads. Oh, yes, this is Maxine Waters. Now, but when you 61 00:03:45,750 --> 00:03:51,060 hear her another fine example of parallel universes, you know, I 62 00:03:51,060 --> 00:03:51,480 love them. But 63 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,640 let's talk about where that leads to. Congresswoman, you've 64 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,730 raised a good point here. I guess for you. It's important if 65 00:03:56,730 --> 00:04:00,810 we find out that somebody on behalf of Donald Trump was on 66 00:04:00,810 --> 00:04:03,660 the phone or an email relations with somebody in Russia or the 67 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:06,840 emergency of the ambassador to America from Russia, and there 68 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,200 was some sort of as you call it, collusion, then what does that 69 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,780 make Trump subject to impeachment? What do you mean by 70 00:04:12,780 --> 00:04:16,350 non legitimate? Just generally what you mean by the term? Well, 71 00:04:17,130 --> 00:04:19,650 there was a connection, there was collusion your term? 72 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,360 Well, here's what I'm trying to get to. If we discover that 73 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:28,560 Donald Trump are his advocates played a role in helping to 74 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,490 devise strategy. If they are the ones who came up with crooked 75 00:04:32,490 --> 00:04:36,300 Hillary, if they're the ones who came up with she's ill, 76 00:04:36,330 --> 00:04:39,960 something's wrong with her energy. And the way that he 77 00:04:40,260 --> 00:04:44,040 basically, you know, described her in the campaign. I think 78 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,420 that is something that would put the question squarely on the 79 00:04:48,420 --> 00:04:51,060 table, whether or not he should be impeached. Is this 80 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,850 is this woman insane? That is insane. So if Hillary Clinton 81 00:04:56,850 --> 00:05:00,000 had won, then Donald Trump could have gone for the Republicans 82 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,760 could have gone for impeachment because they called Trump 83 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:09,300 Hitler. I mean, it she for real. And she's an actual 84 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:11,280 representative of she's actually 85 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:14,610 voted in just she's, she's actually a woman, 86 00:05:15,090 --> 00:05:21,690 chuck, chuck chip, Chuck Todd of MSNBC, spoke directly to 87 00:05:21,690 --> 00:05:26,610 shoeless John Lewis, about this issue. Can you imagine ever 88 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,050 sharing a stage with Donald Trump? 89 00:05:28,230 --> 00:05:31,170 Donald Trump came to you and said, You know, I want 90 00:05:31,170 --> 00:05:35,190 forgiveness here. I want your trust or I want your you know, 91 00:05:35,220 --> 00:05:36,330 once you take them to Selma, 92 00:05:37,110 --> 00:05:43,440 well, the old I go into Selma, like President Bush, President 93 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Clinton, President Obama, maybe he would learn something, maybe 94 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,250 he would get religion. So you would bring him? He would? You 95 00:05:53,250 --> 00:05:56,430 would? You wouldn't do that for him? If he asked. I would not 96 00:05:56,460 --> 00:05:59,910 invite him to them. You wouldn't invite him. But if he asked to 97 00:05:59,910 --> 00:06:03,120 come, would you let him? I wouldn't try to do anything to 98 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,130 prevent him from coming. If he's 99 00:06:05,129 --> 00:06:08,969 not a legitimately elected president, your mind. There are 100 00:06:08,969 --> 00:06:12,089 tools that Congress has tools. Do you think Congress should use 101 00:06:12,089 --> 00:06:14,909 those tools? You think that oh, are you one of those that 102 00:06:14,909 --> 00:06:15,359 believe that 103 00:06:15,389 --> 00:06:17,159 the NDP talking about McCain? 104 00:06:18,030 --> 00:06:21,210 I'm sorry? No, he's talking about impeachment as a tool. Oh, 105 00:06:21,210 --> 00:06:21,300 I 106 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:23,640 thought he was talking about McCain and Lindsey. No, I said, 107 00:06:23,820 --> 00:06:28,890 there are two tools. Do you think Congress should use those 108 00:06:28,890 --> 00:06:29,310 tools? 109 00:06:29,730 --> 00:06:31,950 Do you think that oh, are you one of those that believe that 110 00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:33,750 the impeachment process should begin? 111 00:06:33,900 --> 00:06:36,960 Well, I truly believe that we should find out what happened 112 00:06:37,290 --> 00:06:40,470 and how it happened. John McCain wants a special committee will 113 00:06:40,470 --> 00:06:42,600 select committee. Senator McCain, 114 00:06:42,630 --> 00:06:47,400 yeah, hell freezes over. We got John Lewis agreeing with John 115 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:53,940 McCain. Now I have a three part short clips from former Black 116 00:06:53,940 --> 00:06:59,460 Panther Mason Weaver. Are you familiar with Mason Weaver? Is 117 00:06:59,460 --> 00:07:03,750 he really? Ever heard of him? Okay. Well, he was on with 118 00:07:04,860 --> 00:07:11,400 Tucker Carlson. And he has a lot to say about John Lewis, which 119 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,040 some of it certainly in the second clip, we have discussed 120 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,240 many times on this program. But he has a very different view of 121 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,430 who John Lewis really is now. He is heralded without a doubt, as 122 00:07:23,460 --> 00:07:29,940 you know, as the Civil Rights guru, correct? No. He is. 123 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:33,840 Everyone's talking about how you cannot say anything to him and 124 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:34,140 yet 125 00:07:34,860 --> 00:07:37,710 he's the anointed one. You can't he's 126 00:07:38,910 --> 00:07:42,630 annoying beyond reproach. Err. Okay, he's been word. He's 127 00:07:42,630 --> 00:07:45,900 beyond reproach, except for the Black Panthers, who also 128 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:50,190 happened to be in, in a lot of those protests with John Lewis 129 00:07:50,340 --> 00:07:52,440 here is former Black Panther Mason Weaver 130 00:07:52,470 --> 00:07:56,730 in the early 70s. And late 60s, we were demonstrating and 131 00:07:56,730 --> 00:08:01,020 protesting for the right to compete as adult citizens in 132 00:08:01,020 --> 00:08:03,540 America who are not demonstrating to be taken care 133 00:08:03,540 --> 00:08:07,560 of better. Now, Congressman Lewis, he must foster a Pettus 134 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,340 bridge. And they beat him and ran over him. But those were 135 00:08:11,340 --> 00:08:14,880 Democrats. It was Democrat George Wallace students cool 136 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,690 house yard. It was Democrats, bull Connor's that oppress folks 137 00:08:18,690 --> 00:08:22,230 in the Democrats had voted for the litmus test called the 138 00:08:22,230 --> 00:08:25,620 Lizzie test. And the poll tax he was fighting Democrats. But 139 00:08:25,620 --> 00:08:29,220 after they beat us behind on that bridge, and ran over him 140 00:08:29,220 --> 00:08:32,340 and stomped him on the ground, he got up and turn and joined 141 00:08:32,340 --> 00:08:36,390 them. He joined the oppressors and became a stool for them, 142 00:08:36,510 --> 00:08:39,630 where he was now sitting and presiding over the destruction 143 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:42,630 of the black community to destroy the black men. 144 00:08:42,780 --> 00:08:46,590 Destruction of the black woman with drugs against he has 145 00:08:46,620 --> 00:08:50,190 presided over the worst school system in a world where black 146 00:08:50,190 --> 00:08:53,370 people are learning only began prep. I'm outraged at that the 147 00:08:53,370 --> 00:08:56,760 demonstration that he had early in his life has turned to a 148 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,700 subrogation of his rights and authority anti black leader. 149 00:09:00,180 --> 00:09:03,000 Of course, neither you nor I could say that publicly because 150 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,240 we would be excoriated if we and we have no knowledge of what 151 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:06,720 happened. 152 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,990 This is interesting. This clip because I'm noticing this this 153 00:09:12,990 --> 00:09:17,880 meme that's going around and I think the best example of I 154 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,370 don't have clips because I didn't catch into just play this 155 00:09:20,370 --> 00:09:26,430 one. I realize it's out there we can look for it. This to paint 156 00:09:26,430 --> 00:09:33,000 the Democrats as unchanged ah, since since the Civil War since 157 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,530 pre Civil War witness they were the ones that were for slavery. 158 00:09:37,530 --> 00:09:40,140 They're the ones around the southern the plantation owners 159 00:09:40,140 --> 00:09:42,840 are the ones who have caused a ruckus until the Republicans 160 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,310 came along to replace the Whigs as the ones who eventually ended 161 00:09:47,310 --> 00:09:54,030 up freeing the slaves. The Democrats are one of the guys, 162 00:09:54,900 --> 00:10:00,180 Mark, Mark Levin and Mark Levin. When I was driving her out 163 00:10:00,180 --> 00:10:04,740 obviously, if you were getting Mark Levin was on a unbelievably 164 00:10:04,740 --> 00:10:09,150 interesting rant that had been had been prepared and citing 165 00:10:09,180 --> 00:10:13,680 every Democrat anomaly and including the including 166 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:17,190 rewriting the idea of the Southern strategy where Nixon 167 00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:21,600 and and the Republicans took over the South using various 168 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,820 kind of hidden meanings to double entendres and whatever to 169 00:10:27,090 --> 00:10:29,310 to get the black haters. Well, we 170 00:10:29,340 --> 00:10:32,640 we've, we, of course, have discussed many times that there 171 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,910 was this switch and we've traced some of that back to Archie 172 00:10:35,910 --> 00:10:41,910 Bunker. And how, you know, the, the white collar, grouchy, 173 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:46,230 douchebag racists misogynist guy who was sitting in his armchair 174 00:10:46,230 --> 00:10:49,200 yelling at the TV was a Republican all of a sudden 175 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,340 instead of a democratic 176 00:10:50,370 --> 00:10:52,380 Well, instead of a Democrat, which he should have been. 177 00:10:52,650 --> 00:10:56,310 Archie Bunker should have been a Democrat by all accounts witness 178 00:10:56,310 --> 00:10:57,330 clip to 179 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,420 so when you say he's presided over Are you speaking of his 180 00:11:00,420 --> 00:11:01,590 congressional district, 181 00:11:01,650 --> 00:11:04,200 not just his congressional district, but the congressional 182 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,160 communist black caucus that has every defeat they own and 183 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,480 control is a ghetto hellhole is a place that no one wants to go 184 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,410 to their control of every inner city school system. Every inner 185 00:11:16,410 --> 00:11:20,070 city police aiming and it's any jail. They have produced nothing 186 00:11:20,070 --> 00:11:23,670 but drugs and misery, black owned businesses, black owned 187 00:11:23,670 --> 00:11:27,690 housing, they reduce their presided over the destruction of 188 00:11:27,690 --> 00:11:30,750 black people, they should be ashamed of themselves. And I 189 00:11:30,750 --> 00:11:33,780 don't understand why any black person could be a Democrat. 190 00:11:33,900 --> 00:11:37,350 Well, John Lewis, bless his heart, you know, it took courage 191 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:40,650 to do what he did in life. But what he has done now he has he 192 00:11:40,650 --> 00:11:44,490 has turned himself to his enemy. Lucky, like a little girl being 193 00:11:44,490 --> 00:11:47,730 beaten by daddy and George daddy, like an abused woman been 194 00:11:47,730 --> 00:11:51,900 by her but he joins the husband. He has joined the enemy he has 195 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:54,870 joined the oppressor and what he should do if you are a real man, 196 00:11:54,870 --> 00:11:58,800 John Lewis of your real, real hero, you stand up tomorrow 197 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,160 morning, and you look at other people and you apologize, you 198 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,370 have lasted two decades of hell you you should apologize that 199 00:12:05,370 --> 00:12:08,250 you made a mistake, saying he tried to work with them. But the 200 00:12:08,250 --> 00:12:12,060 Democratic Party has always been the party of abuse. Always been 201 00:12:12,060 --> 00:12:16,020 a part of the clan, the party with the war to keep slaves. The 202 00:12:16,020 --> 00:12:19,590 party has always been the destruction of black people. Mr. 203 00:12:19,590 --> 00:12:23,460 Lewis, you have presided over the destruction of black America 204 00:12:23,460 --> 00:12:24,840 and you owe us an apology. 205 00:12:24,930 --> 00:12:28,800 I wish this guy wouldn't hold back, you know, much better. I 206 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,340 love that. So 207 00:12:29,340 --> 00:12:31,470 what is this guy's name? Again, his name 208 00:12:31,470 --> 00:12:35,910 is Mason Weaver. And I while you're looking at up here's 209 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:38,460 research. Yeah, here's, here's a here's a wrap up clip 210 00:12:38,490 --> 00:12:42,390 he's more concerned about about Trump being the illegitimate 211 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,620 president. But John Lewis is the illegitimate congressman, I've 212 00:12:46,620 --> 00:12:50,310 seen that he has gotten rich, as people have gotten poor. The 213 00:12:50,310 --> 00:12:54,360 black caucus has gotten more power and influence. And the 214 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,720 black people that preside over has gotten poor, more drugs, 215 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,900 more gains, less business, less homeownership, less education, 216 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,550 more jail, more drugs, the worst black people are the poor we are 217 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:08,790 the stronger and stronger the Congressional Black Caucus is 218 00:13:08,970 --> 00:13:12,360 the more powerful democratic are, the worse off black people 219 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,690 are? So I'm just saying I'm a citizen of America. Looking 220 00:13:15,690 --> 00:13:20,490 around my country. I'm saying that every place you find black 221 00:13:20,490 --> 00:13:24,720 people and Democrats, you will find poverty, you find disgrace, 222 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,290 you find a delegation, you find no job to find a place that is 223 00:13:28,290 --> 00:13:35,820 good only in the unknowable. That's his legacy. All right. 224 00:13:37,740 --> 00:13:38,280 Good one. 225 00:13:38,340 --> 00:13:40,500 And did you find out more about him? No, no, I 226 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:43,830 still look at now. Okay. He's got a Twitter account. Let's go 227 00:13:43,830 --> 00:13:44,070 look at 228 00:13:44,070 --> 00:13:46,320 that. I thought that was uh, you know, we've talked about 229 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,760 Democratic Party and that way and their history, and maybe the 230 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,170 history will now be discussed a little bit more. Maybe Maybe 231 00:13:55,170 --> 00:13:58,710 it's coming to the forefront on Fox News. I don't know about any 232 00:13:58,710 --> 00:14:03,480 but anywhere else. In fact, I've noticed a lot in this in this 233 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:09,060 rift in this split of the universe. The most apparent and 234 00:14:09,060 --> 00:14:14,400 really the the most disturbing rifts are between black people, 235 00:14:14,430 --> 00:14:17,070 black Americans, then starting 236 00:14:17,070 --> 00:14:20,700 to it's actually very entertaining. Yeah, you see a 237 00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:21,060 lot of 238 00:14:21,060 --> 00:14:23,640 it. I have a have kind of a fun one. 239 00:14:25,170 --> 00:14:29,370 By the way, just as an aside, somebody pointed out the rift 240 00:14:29,370 --> 00:14:32,820 actually be kicked be started to become bigger and bigger. When 241 00:14:32,820 --> 00:14:34,620 they started the Hadron Collider. 242 00:14:35,460 --> 00:14:38,040 Once they flipped that thing back on, everyone went nutty. I 243 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:46,410 know. I know. I'm all in on that, you know me. So President 244 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:52,800 Elect had but of course he's not he's nominated, were appointed 245 00:14:54,090 --> 00:14:59,790 Ben Carson as the Housing and Urban Development Secretary 246 00:15:00,270 --> 00:15:04,050 Brandon, Ben's been having a tough time getting confirmed. If 247 00:15:04,050 --> 00:15:06,510 you haven't seen it, the clips are too boring to play with. If 248 00:15:06,510 --> 00:15:10,590 you haven't seen it, as you know, he's definitely picking on 249 00:15:10,590 --> 00:15:16,800 him a little bit. And as a part of Carson doing that, a Trump 250 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,310 also invited Steve Harvey, the comedian and game show host. 251 00:15:20,970 --> 00:15:24,150 What I think a lot of people don't know about Steve Harvey, 252 00:15:24,510 --> 00:15:29,550 is that he has he's a huge philanthropist. He has a sizable 253 00:15:29,550 --> 00:15:35,550 foundation with his wife. I looked at the 990. And they did 254 00:15:35,550 --> 00:15:40,980 in 2014. I haven't seen 2015 and 2016 yet did two and a half 255 00:15:40,980 --> 00:15:44,640 million dollars and it's all from from you know, reasonably 256 00:15:44,670 --> 00:15:48,480 mediocre donations. But he gets from BT and you get from Coca 257 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,400 Cola and so you know, there's it's not like, total douchebag 258 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,720 money. No, it's 259 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,210 not like the way Sharpton does it? Yes. Yeah. Well, I 260 00:15:57,210 --> 00:16:00,090 have a charging clip too. He also was homeless for three 261 00:16:00,090 --> 00:16:06,090 years. And he's been very, very instrumental in working 262 00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:08,940 certainly with kids in the inner cities and the inner cities in 263 00:16:08,940 --> 00:16:11,550 general. The guy you know, yeah, he's a game show host but do you 264 00:16:11,550 --> 00:16:14,940 think this is I knew this I thought it was pretty well known 265 00:16:14,940 --> 00:16:19,080 about him. Apparently on CNN, they don't. And here we go. Now 266 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:24,810 there's there's four people in this segment. Three of them are 267 00:16:24,810 --> 00:16:28,320 black, the one that's white doesn't even talk that is the, 268 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,730 the lawyer Girl What's her name? Kaylee, Kaylee McEnany. We have 269 00:16:32,730 --> 00:16:36,000 Mark Lamont Hill. And just listen got 270 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:42,120 this clip. I congratulate you. Thank you. I've heard about this 271 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,240 clip, Steve, not from not about the clip that you just made. But 272 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,040 I've heard about what you're going to play because I know 273 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,730 what it is because the right wing talk show guys have gotten 274 00:16:50,730 --> 00:16:52,260 ballistic over this. 275 00:16:52,530 --> 00:16:54,300 Well, I hope it's the I don't know if it's the clip you're 276 00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:57,000 talking about. But I'm sure it is. Here we Carvey 277 00:16:57,030 --> 00:16:59,910 went to Trump Tower. It's taking a lot of backlash for meeting 278 00:16:59,910 --> 00:17:01,590 with the president elect. What do you make 279 00:17:01,590 --> 00:17:04,380 of this controversy? My disagreement is the way in which 280 00:17:04,380 --> 00:17:07,710 he's being used by folk like Donald Trump again, intention is 281 00:17:07,710 --> 00:17:09,690 just to have a seat at the table. But when you're at the 282 00:17:09,690 --> 00:17:11,820 table, you should have experts at the table. You'd have people 283 00:17:11,820 --> 00:17:14,010 who can challenge the President at the table. I don't care if 284 00:17:14,010 --> 00:17:16,920 Steve's there. But if I'm Steve Harvey, I'm bringing Michelle 285 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,830 Alexander. I'm bringing Cornell West. I'm bringing Imani Perry, 286 00:17:19,830 --> 00:17:22,290 I'm bringing Eddie Glaude. I'm bringing Michael Eric Dyson. I'm 287 00:17:22,290 --> 00:17:24,720 bringing some folk with me who can challenge the president and 288 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,050 inform the conversation. Otherwise, you're just saying oh 289 00:17:28,050 --> 00:17:30,630 my god, because real quick because all because they keep 290 00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:34,200 bringing up comedians and actors and athletes to represent black 291 00:17:34,230 --> 00:17:36,690 interest is demeaning. It's disrespectful and it's 292 00:17:36,690 --> 00:17:39,210 condescending, bring some people up. There was some expertise 293 00:17:39,210 --> 00:17:41,310 Donald Trump don't just bring up people to entertain mark, you 294 00:17:41,310 --> 00:17:42,270 weren't even there. You 295 00:17:42,270 --> 00:17:44,100 know what happened? Okay, okay. 296 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,850 Are you disagreeing that he broke up? Or you just weren't? 297 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,670 You weren't in the room, sir. How did you get there? 298 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:53,790 How does that negate my point that he brought Steve Harvey and 299 00:17:53,790 --> 00:17:54,480 then put them in front of the 300 00:17:54,930 --> 00:17:58,020 pastor Daryl Scott, Michael Cohen. They are in the process 301 00:17:58,020 --> 00:18:00,330 of bringing all types of people from all over the country from 302 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:02,970 all different backgrounds, like we have the the member of 303 00:18:02,970 --> 00:18:05,430 diversity coalition where we reach out to all different types 304 00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:05,700 of people. 305 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,240 It was a bunch of nd negros being dragged in front of TV. 306 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:12,810 That's really that's really the beauty part here. A bunch of 307 00:18:12,810 --> 00:18:15,780 mediocre negros being dragged in front of the TV at 308 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:18,180 Hardee's immediately, but he's also referring to all the 309 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:22,680 Negroes that have been dragged there. Jim Brown, the football 310 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,190 player, yeah, me everybody respects he's also unassailable, 311 00:18:26,220 --> 00:18:29,550 mediocre. So beat the crap out of this guy. 312 00:18:29,820 --> 00:18:33,060 Mediocre negros that's crazy being 313 00:18:33,060 --> 00:18:35,760 dragged in front of TV as a photo op for Donald Trump 314 00:18:35,790 --> 00:18:39,900 exploitative campaign against black people. And you are? Are 315 00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:42,060 you going to so now you want to name call mark? 316 00:18:47,820 --> 00:18:50,100 Let me back mark up here because marks make an important point. 317 00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:54,000 Important point. Making an important point. Talking black 318 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,200 people are diverse, okay, and for to only engage actors and 319 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:03,210 comedians. And you know, reality type folks, is not engaged in 320 00:19:03,420 --> 00:19:07,440 diversity of black people in America. So again, I would like 321 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,410 to see Donald Trump bring some policy analysts and real people 322 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:15,480 with some meat on the bone for the issues to the table. Dang, 323 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:21,870 if you do 10 seconds burgers. What do you mean Dang, if you 324 00:19:21,870 --> 00:19:22,170 didn't do 325 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,550 that, you could actually bring qualified as an expert and he 326 00:19:26,550 --> 00:19:31,560 brought Bruce in. No, it's fine. Yeah, how 327 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:36,960 can that come to the Democrat side of this debate? It has no 328 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,710 problem with all these did no nothing celebrities coming 329 00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:43,740 forward and expressing themselves and they never 330 00:19:43,740 --> 00:19:45,060 complain about that. It's 331 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:48,600 because of the split in the universe. And you see completely 332 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,620 different and but I think most egregiously, is that the that 333 00:19:52,620 --> 00:19:56,790 Harvey he's quite a philanthropist in his own right 334 00:19:56,790 --> 00:19:59,400 and he's worked a lot with inner cities and so be his Harvey is 335 00:19:59,400 --> 00:19:59,580 one 336 00:19:59,580 --> 00:20:02,250 of those guys that just works his butt off yeah, 337 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:02,850 yeah 338 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,240 yeah he's got more than that the game show too he's got a talk 339 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:06,900 show Oh, he's 340 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:10,770 got tongues this is off white good. Yeah. By Avi just saying 341 00:20:10,770 --> 00:20:11,520 wow man 342 00:20:13,230 --> 00:20:19,500 is mediocre Negro apparently that is too funny Mark Lamont 343 00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:24,420 Hill is going to eat crap for saying that he should he should 344 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,510 mediocre no mark Lamont Hill started off 345 00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:31,590 we could have no agenda T shirts for our black listeners mediocre 346 00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:33,660 Negro it's great it'd be 347 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,010 it would sell. Yeah. Mark Lamont Hill really got his start with 348 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,370 the while he was a professor someplace he got his start with 349 00:20:41,370 --> 00:20:46,380 O'Reilly on Fox. O'Reilly would bring him on as the counter the 350 00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:50,220 counter argument. And he was and he's always remarkable for being 351 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:53,850 extremely fast on his feet of fast talker. He's actually 352 00:20:53,850 --> 00:20:58,590 slowed down a lot of fast talker, a quick thinker and he 353 00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:02,520 was very good. Nobody can really deal with him. And then he got 354 00:21:02,550 --> 00:21:07,860 got the idea. I think that he's he's a celebrity. And he started 355 00:21:07,860 --> 00:21:10,890 doing he gets kind of split off from Fox and wanted to get I 356 00:21:10,890 --> 00:21:14,820 think is at one point trying to get his own show. And you know, 357 00:21:14,820 --> 00:21:18,090 he's really takes himself very seriously as a as a great 358 00:21:18,090 --> 00:21:23,400 pundit. But, you know, everybody screws up. I think it was a 359 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:23,850 screw up. 360 00:21:25,620 --> 00:21:29,760 I think he's gonna pay for it. For sure. For sure. 361 00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:34,260 Okay, it's like the deplorables comment. Yeah, the remake neuron 362 00:21:34,260 --> 00:21:35,970 right. Just a bad bad idea. 363 00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:43,110 So people are already gearing up in in DC for tomorrow's J 20. 364 00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:45,780 Which will be followed by J 21. 365 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,590 Right. There will be different movements. 366 00:21:49,710 --> 00:21:52,140 Sharpton is already there with his what's his what's his 367 00:21:52,170 --> 00:21:53,280 foundation calling in 368 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,680 the call? The actual network from dummies? That's the one 369 00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:59,580 here is 370 00:21:59,610 --> 00:22:05,340 we have carved this much on for non negotiable issues. 371 00:22:05,370 --> 00:22:10,260 All right, you got to pin. Yeah, that's right. For non negotiable 372 00:22:10,260 --> 00:22:13,680 issues, voting rights, voting rights. 373 00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:16,410 Do we already have that? So that would that number one is checked 374 00:22:16,410 --> 00:22:17,760 off? Okay. Good to go. I'm 375 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,360 just ringing the bell. 376 00:22:19,199 --> 00:22:22,319 Criminal Justice and police reform. 377 00:22:22,530 --> 00:22:25,620 Criminal Justice. Unbelievable. I think criminal justice reform 378 00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:27,750 is already taking place. No, it's 379 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:28,920 just beginning. Okay. 380 00:22:29,159 --> 00:22:35,669 equal and fair. Economic Justice. Oh, and we have fought 381 00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:35,969 with 382 00:22:36,179 --> 00:22:37,949 equal and fair economic justice. I 383 00:22:37,950 --> 00:22:39,900 don't know what economic justice is. 384 00:22:40,770 --> 00:22:42,120 I mean, everybody has money. 385 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:50,760 Okay, um, the justice and the Affordable Care Act. We come to 386 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:56,250 Washington, from all over this country. And some of us went to 387 00:22:56,250 --> 00:23:01,320 Sanford, Florida, and stood up for Trayvon Martin, and we go 388 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:06,060 stand up Fred Garner, and we go stand up for Walter Scott. And 389 00:23:06,060 --> 00:23:08,730 there's like, there's maybe 50 people standing in front of him. 390 00:23:08,910 --> 00:23:11,340 The crowd is quite small as raining and people like, 391 00:23:12,540 --> 00:23:18,630 we go stand up for Tamir Rice. You may switch presidents, but 392 00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:23,550 we just gonna switch legs and keep on marching. We won't back 393 00:23:23,550 --> 00:23:31,230 down. We won't be trapped. We won't be trapped. We won't be 394 00:23:31,230 --> 00:23:32,130 trapped. 395 00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:34,740 And the feeling that I'll make an intake dropped and we won't 396 00:23:34,740 --> 00:23:38,280 be trumped. We won't be trapped. I have a feeling 397 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:40,920 that I'll play it again. It doesn't have to hardly sounds 398 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:41,100 like 399 00:23:41,340 --> 00:23:43,380 we won't be trapped. 400 00:23:44,970 --> 00:23:46,170 Stay trapped. 401 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,260 Now he's saying trumped. We won't be trapped. We won't be 402 00:23:49,290 --> 00:23:52,320 trapped. I have a feeling that'll show up in the end of 403 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,330 show makes one of these days. Yeah. Huh. Now the so the J 20. 404 00:23:57,390 --> 00:23:59,940 We want it I want to talk about in a moment. But first for the 405 00:23:59,940 --> 00:24:04,410 21st this is the big Woman's March, which is it's kind of 406 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,880 it's getting a little complicated. 407 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,470 Yeah, I believe no White's allowed dates. Well, yeah. 408 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,630 black activists are telling white women who are also 409 00:24:15,630 --> 00:24:19,110 marching, they need to check their privilege. So that could 410 00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:19,890 be some riffs 411 00:24:20,340 --> 00:24:23,700 to check it. There's no booth. They will be there. There may 412 00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:28,470 be some riffs internally, the one of the CO organizers of this 413 00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:31,440 March. That's the the Muslim Muslim ah, as you would say in 414 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,250 Europe. She was on MSNBC. Again, just to kind of reiterate in 415 00:24:35,250 --> 00:24:36,570 this short clip January 21, 416 00:24:36,570 --> 00:24:39,600 what's the first thing you want? Either President Trump at that 417 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,230 time or the Senate or as you were mentioning the house to do 418 00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:45,900 for all of these marchers because you have a sense of what 419 00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:47,250 the pulse is from the marchers? 420 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,890 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, first of all, hands off the Affordable 421 00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:52,380 Care Act. We need our health insurance hands off Planned 422 00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:55,830 Parenthood in our reproductive right, hands off, Muslims hands 423 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:58,710 off the undocumented. Those are really our top messaging lines 424 00:24:58,710 --> 00:25:00,900 hands off our Native Americans Since I'm brothers you will see 425 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:03,030 a plethora of speakers reflecting 426 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,060 plethora is it plethora? Is that the correct pronunciation? 427 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:09,510 Well, I would pronounce a plethora, plethora plethora, 428 00:25:09,930 --> 00:25:13,260 maybe acceptable I have to look it up. It's possible he does 429 00:25:13,260 --> 00:25:15,240 multiple pronunciations for a lot of words, 430 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,990 but it kind of sounds cool actually. plethora, plethora 431 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,920 contrast. 432 00:25:20,220 --> 00:25:21,690 Sounds like a science fiction care. 433 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,180 There's a plethora of controversies about it, you 434 00:25:24,210 --> 00:25:27,450 see a plethora of speakers reflecting all the progressive 435 00:25:27,450 --> 00:25:29,070 and social justice issues in this country. 436 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,390 John, all the progressive and social justice issues, every 437 00:25:33,390 --> 00:25:35,490 single one hands off, everything says 438 00:25:35,490 --> 00:25:38,370 I'm Brother, you will see a plethora of speakers reflecting 439 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,950 all the progressive and social justice issues in this country. 440 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:45,000 It's again, one of the most intersectional movements that 441 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,100 you have ever seen. intersectional movement as 442 00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:49,380 the intersectional thing again, which means everybody's there 443 00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:51,990 and no one will agree. That's pretty much the way I see it. 444 00:25:52,020 --> 00:26:05,670 Hello. Sorry. clip that for you. Hello, my hits me. It's me. 445 00:26:07,230 --> 00:26:13,050 John, do it. Do it. Hello. Hold on. Oh, I was doing right. All 446 00:26:13,050 --> 00:26:16,200 right. Ladies and gentlemen, I present John C. Dvorak and 447 00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:19,920 Adele. Hello, 448 00:26:19,950 --> 00:26:28,950 Hello. It's me. It's me. Here I sit on the stoop. Beautiful like 449 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:29,520 a bee. 450 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,760 Oh, beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. That was worth 10 minutes 451 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,780 of clipping that. The women of the view my beat short clip, 452 00:26:39,780 --> 00:26:42,270 don't worry. They were all wearing their pussy hats. Have 453 00:26:42,270 --> 00:26:43,200 you seen the pussy hats? 454 00:26:43,650 --> 00:26:46,740 God, it's wrong with these people. 455 00:26:46,769 --> 00:26:49,559 Yeah, there's a lot a lot is wrong. Welcome back. 456 00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:54,330 So you'll notice a couple buzzword pink hat. Yeah, 457 00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:56,700 I missed that can mess up her hair. 458 00:26:56,730 --> 00:27:01,020 But you know, Saturday, there's this gigantic Woman's March in 459 00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:06,750 Washington. And as it turns out, it's not just Washington, it's 460 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:09,450 all over the country. So you know, 461 00:27:10,740 --> 00:27:13,800 women there was that you're not just you're gonna be no petite 462 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,660 women are normal size 10. It's 463 00:27:15,690 --> 00:27:19,260 all over the country. So you know, you know, we're wearing 464 00:27:19,260 --> 00:27:23,430 pink hats and celebration of this march of women are not 465 00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:27,030 holding anybody down. And we want you to know that we want 466 00:27:27,030 --> 00:27:30,300 you to have a great day, whatever day you pick, and take 467 00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,190 a little time to enjoy the view. 468 00:27:32,490 --> 00:27:38,100 Oh, yes. Enjoy the view. So what has happened definitely is a lot 469 00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:41,610 of women's organizations are asking for money. There's just 470 00:27:41,610 --> 00:27:48,090 tons of money requests coming in. Certainly, for the for the 471 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:54,720 the 20th of March on the 21st. And they've got thing, it's like 472 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,430 it's what is going on in DC. It's really, it's like just 473 00:27:59,430 --> 00:28:04,320 partying. No, seriously, because I looked at the rundown. And you 474 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,310 see I have it here somewhere. Yeah, here it is the rundown. 475 00:28:09,090 --> 00:28:12,420 And you know, there's all kinds of tranny parties and dress up 476 00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:15,390 parties and whoop, and we're going crazy parties and 477 00:28:15,390 --> 00:28:18,930 outrageous dress parties and and just to everyone's free and 478 00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:24,420 crazy. And we don't care parties. Which Yeah, I know lots 479 00:28:24,420 --> 00:28:28,350 of people in the gay and lesbian and transgender community. They 480 00:28:28,350 --> 00:28:31,110 love to party. They love to dance. That's that's the way 481 00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:37,260 they protest. Meanwhile, the J 20. Is the more depressed the J 482 00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:43,740 20. Is sponsored 100% by the workers. World Workers 483 00:28:43,769 --> 00:28:48,509 Party. Oh, yeah. That operates that's the same as a answer a n 484 00:28:48,509 --> 00:28:52,319 s w e. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And a bunch of other movement. That 485 00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:56,699 guy that guys are in New York, they have a lot of websites that 486 00:28:56,699 --> 00:28:56,909 are 487 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,000 he had the main, the main one is workers.org. That's the main 488 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:00,390 one. 489 00:29:00,659 --> 00:29:04,949 And they are all time socialists, that Bernie Sanders 490 00:29:04,949 --> 00:29:07,829 type socialists from the 20s and 30s. 491 00:29:07,860 --> 00:29:11,880 Yeah, they're they're really about socialism. I mean, it's a 492 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,640 national socialist. Yeah, the real the real deal. And they're 493 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,920 the ones handing out the signs. They're the ones that are 494 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:21,120 setting everything up. And it's interesting though, I got a an 495 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,940 email from because I subscribe to all these newsletters if I 496 00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:28,710 can. I got an email from them asking for money. And they find 497 00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:33,090 it rather odd because they had a GoFundMe, the goal was 10 grand. 498 00:29:33,090 --> 00:29:35,940 And as of this morning, was it like $3,000? I'm not quite sure 499 00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:38,580 why they were even asking for that in that manner. Because 500 00:29:38,580 --> 00:29:41,760 they seem to have plenty of money. I don't know what that 501 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,860 was. Just have no idea. Yeah, I really, really don't. 502 00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:51,540 Something's up. Yeah. Of course. We have some counter actions 503 00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:58,470 going on. And this is this is the bikers for Trump, who have 504 00:29:58,470 --> 00:30:02,190 taken it upon themselves to Make sure that there can be no 505 00:30:02,190 --> 00:30:05,940 disruptions. I know some of these guys, certainly the 506 00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:08,880 Rolling Thunder, New Jersey, or I think is Rolling Thunder New 507 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,330 Jersey to or something like that. Let's listen to one of the 508 00:30:12,330 --> 00:30:16,980 spokes guys for the bikers for Trump on I think Fox. That 509 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:17,340 sounds 510 00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:19,170 like a confrontation to me, Chris. 511 00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:24,210 Well, the bikers are certainly used to being outnumbered I'm 512 00:30:24,210 --> 00:30:26,850 sorry for this audio. That's not me. It's just how it came in. 513 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,330 And 514 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,040 we are prepared to form a wall of meat. But we're confident 515 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,030 that law enforced wall of lessons and that's it, it's the 516 00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:39,900 he'll come back to that and Chicago and an Arizona. And if 517 00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:42,900 it's anything like it was in Cleveland, they're going to have 518 00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:45,810 to, they're going to have things under control. We're 519 00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:50,880 anticipating a celebration here. We don't anticipate any any 520 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,640 problems. We have a strict code of conduct where we don't 521 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,820 condone violence. But again, in the event that we're needed, you 522 00:30:56,820 --> 00:30:59,640 can certainly count on the bikers for Trump to form a wall 523 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,150 of meet 524 00:31:00,270 --> 00:31:05,640 up a wall of meat. That's an interesting phrase. I believe 525 00:31:05,670 --> 00:31:09,360 you're going to be vastly outnumbers, outnumbered, anti 526 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,110 Trump groups are reserving in terms of parking spaces. I 527 00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:17,280 understand they got far more than the pro Trump people. Is 528 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:17,880 that accurate? 529 00:31:19,170 --> 00:31:22,500 Well, again, we're used to being out numbered and we're very 530 00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:25,920 confident we are group is full of, you know, the backbone, the 531 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,700 biker community as the veteran. And so these are guys that are 532 00:31:29,730 --> 00:31:33,750 really used to backing down but you certainly won't see bikers 533 00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:36,870 out there screaming calling for the destruction of private 534 00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:40,320 property or the death of police officers. We're going to be 535 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,440 throwing the halftime inauguration rally at John 536 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,490 Marshall park that will kick off shortly after Donald Trump exits 537 00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:50,730 the stage to go into the Capitol. And it will end shortly 538 00:31:50,730 --> 00:31:53,100 before the parade on Pennsylvania Avenue. 539 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,070 Why are you such a big supporter of Donald Trump? 540 00:31:57,090 --> 00:32:00,660 Well, like Donald Trump, the biker has an outspoken nature. 541 00:32:01,110 --> 00:32:05,430 And so as Donald Trump came on to the political scene, the 542 00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:08,760 biker was looking for someone outside the establishment, 543 00:32:08,910 --> 00:32:12,210 someone that was going to stand up to and call it what it is. 544 00:32:12,390 --> 00:32:15,720 Radical Islam is one of the biggest talking points of bikers 545 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,770 for Trump, illegal immigration, and one of our sweet spots is 546 00:32:19,770 --> 00:32:22,230 getting behind the American Veteran. We believe it's 547 00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:25,170 incumbent upon all who understand the value in the 548 00:32:25,170 --> 00:32:28,980 sacrifice of our servicemen and women, that we are there for 549 00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:31,110 them. And we've got to change these policies now. 550 00:32:31,409 --> 00:32:33,149 Chris Cox, thanks very much for joining. 551 00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:35,970 That should be an interesting show down because I gotta tell 552 00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:36,210 you, 553 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,880 yeah, it usually involves stabbings. 554 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,590 Should I point to exhibit a Gimme Shelter? The movie if you 555 00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:47,400 if you want to know what could happen? Just ask Mick Jagger. 556 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,100 Yeah, exactly. 557 00:32:50,130 --> 00:32:54,750 So I don't know. I don't know if this is I don't know what's 558 00:32:54,750 --> 00:32:59,310 going to happen. Although I do know that. And I didn't clip it 559 00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:02,670 because it was just it was so stupid. But Tucker Carlson had 560 00:33:02,670 --> 00:33:07,410 the had the guy on who posted the ad. If you go and you'll go 561 00:33:07,410 --> 00:33:10,770 fight the fight against Trump and I'll pay you was it 2050 562 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,960 like $500 a mani baloney guy? Yeah. And guys discredited? 563 00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:18,600 Yeah. No, Tucker made fun of him. It was it was pretty good. 564 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,130 Actually. He kept talking about how what's the quarterbacks 565 00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:30,750 name? Well, hold on. Tom Brady. No, no, no, no, no, he was he 566 00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:34,050 had the the last night tiddle Um, no, he had the last name 567 00:33:34,050 --> 00:33:37,590 right. But he had what he messed up the Oh Peyton Manning 568 00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:40,470 Manning. Yes, it's a want to say Chelsea Manning but he kept 569 00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:46,380 saying Peyton Manning so I didn't even clip that it was 570 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:50,730 just too stupid. So that was that was debunked properly. I 571 00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:53,190 was very good. And, 572 00:33:53,550 --> 00:33:56,730 you know, I think know how long Tucker Carlson can keep up this 573 00:33:56,730 --> 00:34:02,220 torrid pace. What's making that show work? Yeah, I always like 574 00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:04,710 to credit Tucker, but it's actually the Booker. 575 00:34:05,790 --> 00:34:08,550 Yes. He's got a really good he's got a great Booker. Absolutely. 576 00:34:09,809 --> 00:34:14,339 Absolutely. And we should credit her or him on the show sometime. 577 00:34:14,339 --> 00:34:17,429 We should find out who it is. Yeah, that's a person the unsung 578 00:34:17,429 --> 00:34:17,969 hero and 579 00:34:19,439 --> 00:34:21,569 you're right. They are the is the booker 580 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,180 you don't have a good book or you're you suck and is used that 581 00:34:24,180 --> 00:34:29,070 suck. And it's not you at all. Did Well, Obama did have a you 582 00:34:29,070 --> 00:34:31,650 know, he had his last supposedly I don't know how many last press 583 00:34:31,650 --> 00:34:32,490 conferences. Well, I 584 00:34:32,490 --> 00:34:35,550 know this. This was his he had his last speech. And now this is 585 00:34:35,550 --> 00:34:36,780 the last press conference. 586 00:34:37,439 --> 00:34:39,839 He already had a last press con now. No, 587 00:34:39,870 --> 00:34:42,120 it was a speech with questions. You see, it's very different. 588 00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:45,390 Well, he had his last press conference. I didn't get much 589 00:34:45,390 --> 00:34:48,540 that one clip out of it that I thought was interesting. Ah, 590 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,100 yes. Is that Trump apparently when he gets in, he's maybe 591 00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:55,950 going to kick the press corps out of the White House. 592 00:34:55,979 --> 00:34:59,729 Well, the idea and I have a follow up clip to this. The idea 593 00:34:59,729 --> 00:35:04,589 is is to make more space for more people, for more 594 00:35:04,589 --> 00:35:07,409 journalists. And if you look at that, of course, I've watched it 595 00:35:07,409 --> 00:35:12,509 every day, if you look at the the current press corps room, 596 00:35:12,509 --> 00:35:15,239 it's very small, it's packed, people are fainting from time to 597 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,509 time. But of course, this will be moving to the building next 598 00:35:18,509 --> 00:35:22,859 door. And that is obviously seen as usurping the power of the 599 00:35:22,859 --> 00:35:27,269 press, the fourth estate, whatever you want to call it. 600 00:35:28,829 --> 00:35:32,549 Well, Obama made this fantastic plea. And I think the only thing 601 00:35:32,549 --> 00:35:36,029 I can think of that would be behind the plea and he's doing 602 00:35:36,029 --> 00:35:39,539 he doesn't on an off handed way, he's really good at saying one 603 00:35:39,539 --> 00:35:42,239 thing, but directing it at somebody that nobody knows, but 604 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,949 play this clip, and I have some thoughts on this. 605 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,170 And you have done that. And having you in this building has 606 00:35:49,530 --> 00:35:54,750 made this place work better. It keeps us it makes us work 607 00:35:54,750 --> 00:36:01,110 harder. No, it doesn't. You have in made us think about how we 608 00:36:01,110 --> 00:36:04,830 are doing what we do and whether or not we're able to deliver on 609 00:36:04,830 --> 00:36:08,940 what's been requested by our constituents. But there's a 610 00:36:08,940 --> 00:36:15,450 difference between that normal functioning of politics, and 611 00:36:17,070 --> 00:36:21,630 certain issues or certain moments where I think our core 612 00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:22,740 values may be at stake. 613 00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:27,000 For our core values may be at stake John Doe, John, this 614 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,560 is more valuable. First of all, 615 00:36:28,620 --> 00:36:31,080 I'll tell you why. Hold on. I know you I want to hear what you 616 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,020 have to say. But let me just add to this a quick clip from Josh 617 00:36:34,050 --> 00:36:37,350 Earnest, addressing the same issue. I pulled him through the 618 00:36:37,380 --> 00:36:40,890 earnest filter. So I shortened as many spaces as I could. 619 00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:45,150 I alluded this in the in my long comments at the beginning about 620 00:36:45,150 --> 00:36:49,170 how the United States has a rather unique arrangement 621 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,470 between our government and the independent media, 622 00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:55,380 mainly by making them not independent. That's 623 00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,039 the fact that all of you represent independent news 624 00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:02,549 organizations, and have regular access to the white house owned 625 00:37:02,549 --> 00:37:05,849 by three corporations have regular access to workspace 626 00:37:05,849 --> 00:37:07,469 where you can. Oh, they have a 627 00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:10,620 workspace John, they all have no workspace I'm sure in the new 628 00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:11,400 building, have the 629 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,880 venue where you can enter the room, the briefing room at 630 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,000 almost any hour, that would not change I don't think and can 631 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,420 hold people in power accountable is really important. Isn't that 632 00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:23,460 what the whole point is you also have access to senior White 633 00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:25,860 House officials right through that door. Oh, right up the ramp 634 00:37:25,890 --> 00:37:28,080 outside that door, you can come into my office. Good luck, I'm 635 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,779 sure I'm sure you can just burst through like on the West Wing 636 00:37:30,809 --> 00:37:33,689 hood. Hey, CJ, let me ask your question 637 00:37:33,780 --> 00:37:36,660 at a moment's notice, to ask questions and demand answers and 638 00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:41,130 demand transparency or, and as I mentioned earlier, sometimes 639 00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:43,830 it's a little inconvenient. Sometimes it's uncomfortable. 640 00:37:44,070 --> 00:37:46,740 Sometimes it's frustrating, because you're dissatisfied with 641 00:37:46,740 --> 00:37:50,490 the answer that we've given. But it's necessary for the success 642 00:37:50,490 --> 00:37:54,210 of our democracy. And I think there are some clearly it's 643 00:37:54,210 --> 00:37:57,480 necessary for the people who might say, John, that? Well, 644 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,410 this is it's just symbolic that you have the White House press 645 00:38:01,410 --> 00:38:04,830 corps in the White House. And I would say it's a really 646 00:38:04,830 --> 00:38:08,190 important symbol. It's more than just symbol, some guy's house. 647 00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:13,860 It's almost symbolism, but even taking that argument at face 648 00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:17,280 value, there is something symbolically important about all 649 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,520 of you gathering here every single day, to hold people in 650 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,980 power accountable to demand answers to demand transparency 651 00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:26,370 to demand facts. And your ability to do that is going to 652 00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:29,010 be affected if fact, you don't have regular access to the White 653 00:38:29,010 --> 00:38:31,620 House, if you're not able to do your job from the White House. 654 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,490 And if there's not a natural, readily available venue for you 655 00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:40,140 to hold senior officials accountable. So this is a this 656 00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:44,220 is a again, a relationship that President Obama believes is 657 00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:47,160 important to invest in sure he made this a priority. 658 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,810 Sure, sure. 659 00:38:48,809 --> 00:38:54,599 He did to priority to have him in there. Yeah, priority why? I 660 00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:57,569 know why. Well generally possible reason they make such a 661 00:38:57,569 --> 00:39:02,339 fuss and I guess Trump was never read in on it. The places 662 00:39:02,339 --> 00:39:02,909 bugged. 663 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,940 Well, they can bug the executive. 664 00:39:06,570 --> 00:39:09,300 No, they bugged that press room that thing is so bad. It's 665 00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:11,610 probably every network connection because they can put 666 00:39:11,610 --> 00:39:14,550 their little computers in there. Everything's fine. 667 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,170 It's all set. Oh man, we got to move all the ball the mics and 668 00:39:19,170 --> 00:39:24,180 the end and the taps and the and yeah, the Ethernet. 669 00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:29,940 else would you make such a fuss so they can be close to so they 670 00:39:29,940 --> 00:39:33,030 can drop in on us at a moment's notice. And so we have to answer 671 00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:34,350 their pointed questions. 672 00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:39,720 That is all crap that is not what the resistance thinks this 673 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:42,870 is about. You are aware of the resistance I presume? 674 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,040 I have heard of them. I don't know why. What did they think 675 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:47,490 this is all 676 00:39:47,489 --> 00:39:51,059 about? Okay, well, first the resistance, which now this came 677 00:39:51,059 --> 00:39:58,259 up on a face bag post. Tina, she she was sad. She did it. But 678 00:39:58,259 --> 00:40:02,969 she's learning she posted A second Project Veritas video 679 00:40:03,089 --> 00:40:06,779 where you hear these, these disruptors saying, Oh, we're 680 00:40:06,779 --> 00:40:13,649 gonna go throw butyric butyric acid into the Press Club. So 681 00:40:13,649 --> 00:40:16,499 they'll stink it up. And we're going to, you know, the chain 682 00:40:16,499 --> 00:40:21,719 trains and block tracks and all this stuff and had and wanted to 683 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,509 do nothing and one of the commenters on her posts actually 684 00:40:24,509 --> 00:40:27,329 said, I don't see what's wrong with it. This is just like the 685 00:40:27,329 --> 00:40:33,149 French Resistance against Hitler. Take that in for a 686 00:40:33,149 --> 00:40:39,329 second. Wow, take that in for a second. And this is a meme. And 687 00:40:39,329 --> 00:40:41,939 the resistance is something that people are talking about on the 688 00:40:41,939 --> 00:40:46,409 bag for sure. And of course, that is led by no one, no one 689 00:40:46,409 --> 00:40:48,479 less than Keith Olbermann. 690 00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:54,330 I'm Keith Olbermann, and this is the resistance. Trump's banana 691 00:40:54,330 --> 00:40:57,300 Republicans have proposed that White House press briefings be 692 00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:00,120 moved out of the presidential mansion and held next door at 693 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,180 the executive office building and why should you care for one 694 00:41:03,180 --> 00:41:06,360 damned minutes? Yes, ranks. Priebus says it's a great thing 695 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,060 because the result would be quote about quadrupling the 696 00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:11,670 amount of reporters that can cover the White House. And 697 00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:14,070 certainly that sounds like a wonderful intensification of the 698 00:41:14,070 --> 00:41:16,800 bright shining light of a democratic free press on the 699 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,710 operation of the commander in chief and his noble staff, the 700 00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:24,030 more the better, right. Just the way it works in Russia, a giant 701 00:41:24,030 --> 00:41:27,240 crowd of reporters screaming for the leaders attention, making 702 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:29,760 signs indicating what organization they belong to, and 703 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,720 even signs and props indicating what questions they intend to 704 00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:37,650 ask. Some of them showing exactly the kind of objectivity 705 00:41:37,650 --> 00:41:41,040 and respectful skepticism a free press is supposed to bring to 706 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,470 the coverage of government at its highest levels. And yes, 707 00:41:43,470 --> 00:41:46,410 she's a self described journalist at a Putin news 708 00:41:46,410 --> 00:41:49,350 conference holding a picture of Putin ripping off his shirt to 709 00:41:49,350 --> 00:41:53,280 indicate he's actually Superman. We are just a few steps removed 710 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,700 from the contestants trying to get MC Monty halls attention 711 00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:59,370 during the taping of the old game show. Let's make a deal. 712 00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:03,150 This guy needs some new cultural references. I think, though I 713 00:42:03,150 --> 00:42:07,290 would never want any comparison among Vladimir Wow, Donald Trump 714 00:42:07,290 --> 00:42:12,000 and Monty Hall. I have respect for Monty Hall. Look, I don't 715 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,190 know the last time anything at a White House news conference or 716 00:42:14,190 --> 00:42:16,530 anything done by a White House correspondent actually 717 00:42:16,590 --> 00:42:20,340 contributed anything measurable here coverage of a president not 718 00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:23,790 since Sam Donaldson used to make news by bellowing questions at 719 00:42:23,790 --> 00:42:26,760 Ronald Reagan and Reagan condemning himself by refusing 720 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,430 to answer them. I also think that if traditional journalism 721 00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:32,430 contributes in any way to the prevention of dictatorship here 722 00:42:32,430 --> 00:42:36,270 now, it will be by the grunt work fact checking laws, news, 723 00:42:37,650 --> 00:42:40,800 legislation and departmental orders and checking legalities 724 00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:43,320 and confronting it administration's lies with 725 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,530 facts. The next Woodward and Bernstein will get there not at 726 00:42:46,530 --> 00:42:49,410 the news conferences but by skillet filing Freedom of 727 00:42:49,410 --> 00:42:53,490 Information Act requests. But the idea of quadrupling the 728 00:42:53,490 --> 00:42:55,710 amount of reporters that can cover the White House is a 729 00:42:55,710 --> 00:43:00,030 Trojan horse with a lot of Trojans. Ha ha Firstly, there is 730 00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:03,120 the Putin likes spectacle. The bigger the room, the more room 731 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,960 for twirl staffers and hangers on and for want of a better term 732 00:43:07,050 --> 00:43:11,130 Trump plants. Trump gave this stunt away at last week's news 733 00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:14,850 conference, he packed the place with people applauding for him. 734 00:43:14,970 --> 00:43:17,340 And they have as much right to be at a presidential news 735 00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:21,180 conference as with people booing him, and that amount of people 736 00:43:21,330 --> 00:43:25,770 is none. quadrupling the number of so called reporters at the 737 00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:29,130 news conferences. And you have suddenly created another stop on 738 00:43:29,130 --> 00:43:32,880 the Trump perpetual campaign rally tour, quadruple the number 739 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,100 of so called reporters at the news conferences, and you 740 00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:37,800 suddenly make it easier to ignore the reporters with actual 741 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,770 questions, as opposed to the ones carrying signs showing 742 00:43:40,770 --> 00:43:43,050 Trump wearing a Superman shirt. Okay, 743 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,160 so you get the idea. The 744 00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:47,669 whole thinking keep that guy to a minimum on the show. Yeah, 745 00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:50,130 but I just it was about the resistance part. And then, you 746 00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:53,550 know, they he they the resistance, believes this is 747 00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:57,060 about making more room for shields, shields and it's very 748 00:43:57,060 --> 00:44:02,040 much like, modeled after Putin you say? Luckily 749 00:44:02,729 --> 00:44:05,699 dantian Yeah, it's the bugs. And I 750 00:44:05,699 --> 00:44:08,279 liked I liked the theory. It's not it's probably not even 751 00:44:08,279 --> 00:44:09,089 theories, right. 752 00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:15,120 It is not unusual. I mean, Lyndon B. Johnson bugged his 753 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,410 Oval Office. They used to do this constantly. And it's not a 754 00:44:19,470 --> 00:44:22,530 it's nothing new to the I know, they just not that it's a 755 00:44:22,530 --> 00:44:25,050 stunning idea. It's just so obvious. 756 00:44:25,289 --> 00:44:29,639 Luckily. Jake Tapper, of course, he was fired from ABC News after 757 00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:32,879 he was a douchebag to the President. We all remember that. 758 00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:38,219 He went on Seth Meyers show a Trump hater. Although I kind of 759 00:44:38,219 --> 00:44:42,239 like his show. It's just tiring. And yeah, you 760 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,489 can take you can watch it for a few shows in a row. And then 761 00:44:44,489 --> 00:44:46,799 it's like, whoa, wait a minute and say we're repeating 762 00:44:46,799 --> 00:44:50,489 material. Yeah, a closer look very much of a just Trump. Hey. 763 00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:54,360 Here's tapper on Seth Meyers talking about the relationship 764 00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:57,600 which we just heard was so fantastic. And President Obama 765 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,240 actually encouraged everything and he said everything happened 766 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,400 was great. And we love the press. And 767 00:45:02,429 --> 00:45:04,559 it's interesting also, because I remember when the WikiLeaks 768 00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,529 happened. This is about WikiLeaks was a White House 769 00:45:07,529 --> 00:45:09,359 correspondent like you, Margaret. And I remember the the 770 00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:11,939 White House was so outraged. They were so angry. They were so 771 00:45:11,939 --> 00:45:13,199 convinced that these rooms and 772 00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:15,419 I'm sorry, this isn't the this isn't the Seth Meyers thing. 773 00:45:18,299 --> 00:45:21,149 That's not the one I want. That's a different one. Seth, 774 00:45:21,149 --> 00:45:23,819 here it is. Seth Meyers. 775 00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:26,520 One of the things that happened during the first Obama term when 776 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,530 they go and I'm not, I'm not saying these things are 777 00:45:28,530 --> 00:45:31,800 equivalent. But the Obama White House went to war against Fox 778 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,950 News. And they tried to say that the entire organization was 779 00:45:34,980 --> 00:45:38,820 illegitimate. And it wasn't, you know, this anchor is a jerk or 780 00:45:38,820 --> 00:45:42,270 this story is a lie, or whatever it was this entire organization, 781 00:45:42,270 --> 00:45:45,180 including hundreds of reporters and producers who were just 782 00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:49,230 doing honest work, people I knew Major Garrett Bradbury, people 783 00:45:49,230 --> 00:45:52,710 who are good reporters. And when they were doing that I 784 00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:56,010 challenged them for that, specifically, because it's an 785 00:45:56,010 --> 00:45:58,500 important principle to stand up for. We're all supposed to be in 786 00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:00,810 this together. And you can't just like, say, Well, you know, 787 00:46:00,810 --> 00:46:04,410 CNN, if you're with an organization that's not CNN, and 788 00:46:04,410 --> 00:46:07,230 you watch them just destroy us or trying to destroy us, just 789 00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:09,630 because they don't like the story, which is again, proven to 790 00:46:09,630 --> 00:46:13,290 be completely true. Then your next Yeah, your next if you're 791 00:46:13,290 --> 00:46:15,030 doing your job, and you have a story that they don't like. 792 00:46:15,570 --> 00:46:15,990 Yeah, 793 00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:20,700 yeah, we remember that. Remember that? Yeah. I remember President 794 00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:23,880 Obama saying Fox News is crap. faffed. Can't watch Fox News 795 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:30,810 does horrible is that's fake to no good liars. We could go to 796 00:46:30,810 --> 00:46:36,480 WikiLeaks now. And actually more Chelsea Manning, but I have a 797 00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:42,780 something that popped up this morning, which was very dark, a 798 00:46:42,780 --> 00:46:45,900 very dark piece on CNN. At the same time, it was actually it's 799 00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:49,350 beautiful. It's a promotion for entertainment. Of course, you 800 00:46:49,350 --> 00:46:51,270 always have to throw an entertainment promotion there. 801 00:46:52,110 --> 00:46:55,380 And it is some putting some fear in there that really what the 802 00:46:55,380 --> 00:46:59,460 question here is, what happens if there's a terrorist attack 803 00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:03,360 during the inauguration, and everybody's wiped out? I mean, 804 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,060 these are the things you should ask if you're CNN, of course, if 805 00:47:06,090 --> 00:47:09,540 everybody's wiped out, then what have who's in line who is next, 806 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,930 who will actually become the president, somehow Biden gets 807 00:47:12,930 --> 00:47:16,140 in? No, it could be worse actually. And this will end as I 808 00:47:16,140 --> 00:47:20,850 said, it'll flow into a nice promotional piece for Designated 809 00:47:20,850 --> 00:47:24,630 Survivor which is on ABC, but this is a CNN piece, who is the 810 00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:27,660 designated survivor. If everyone dies tomorrow, 811 00:47:27,689 --> 00:47:30,959 just about every measure of America security apparatus, 812 00:47:30,989 --> 00:47:34,859 including 28,000 law enforcement personnel will be on the ground 813 00:47:34,859 --> 00:47:38,009 in Washington when President Obama hands off his office to 814 00:47:38,009 --> 00:47:41,849 Donald Trump on Friday, on near army in place to protect the 815 00:47:41,849 --> 00:47:45,209 leaders of all branches of government gathered in one place 816 00:47:45,269 --> 00:47:48,959 outside. And while officials stressed there's no specific 817 00:47:48,989 --> 00:47:52,139 credible threat to this inauguration. Tonight, due to a 818 00:47:52,139 --> 00:47:55,349 quirk in America's rules for succession questions remain 819 00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:58,349 about just who would be in charge if an attack hit the 820 00:47:58,349 --> 00:48:01,079 incoming president, vice president and congressional 821 00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:04,199 leaders just as the transfer of power is underway. 822 00:48:04,349 --> 00:48:06,779 Here you have a very confusing line of succession there, 823 00:48:06,779 --> 00:48:07,169 according 824 00:48:07,170 --> 00:48:10,200 to the Constitution if the President and Vice President are 825 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,160 killed or incapacitated, Next in line is the house speaker, then 826 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,070 the President pro tempore of the Senate. But what if something 827 00:48:17,070 --> 00:48:20,340 happened to them at the inauguration to after that it 828 00:48:20,340 --> 00:48:22,980 goes down the list of Cabinet Secretaries starting with 829 00:48:22,980 --> 00:48:26,130 Secretary of State on the day of the inauguration as a 830 00:48:26,130 --> 00:48:28,980 precaution, a cabinet secretary called the designated 831 00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:32,790 presidential successor will not attend the inauguration ready to 832 00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:36,030 step in if something happens, but it won't be a Trump cabinet 833 00:48:36,030 --> 00:48:39,210 secretary since none of them have been confirmed yet. It will 834 00:48:39,210 --> 00:48:42,810 be an Obama appointee. No word from the White House on who that 835 00:48:42,810 --> 00:48:45,990 will be on Friday. Does the line of succession switch to the new 836 00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:47,520 president's lineup at noon 837 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,850 and the inauguration you have two lines of succession one for 838 00:48:50,850 --> 00:48:54,030 the Brock Obama administration which is still in place, and one 839 00:48:54,030 --> 00:48:56,700 which really won't be in place until Donald Trump is 840 00:48:56,700 --> 00:48:59,700 inaugurated comes into office and actually formally nominates 841 00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:02,010 in the Senate confirms his people. You might actually end 842 00:49:02,010 --> 00:49:04,830 up with the President's from the prior administration execute 843 00:49:04,830 --> 00:49:05,520 because of a treasury 844 00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:08,490 adding to the confusion by noon Friday all 845 00:49:08,610 --> 00:49:11,130 Did you hear what it was in the background of that clip? If you 846 00:49:11,130 --> 00:49:14,580 listen again, so while they're saying while the guys talking 847 00:49:14,580 --> 00:49:18,750 there's a clip of President Obama being inaugurated the 848 00:49:18,750 --> 00:49:25,050 first time no the third time and they cut out he says I will 849 00:49:25,050 --> 00:49:27,570 faithfully execute and they cut him off right there. I just 850 00:49:27,570 --> 00:49:31,050 weird just this is like a minor thing listening administration 851 00:49:31,050 --> 00:49:33,480 execute, because if you can hear it in the background, it's been 852 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,600 about to actually end up with the president from the prior 853 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,400 administration execute because of a treasury, 854 00:49:38,789 --> 00:49:42,329 adding to the confusion. By noon Friday, all of Obama's cabinet 855 00:49:42,329 --> 00:49:45,899 secretaries are expected to resign. John Kerry, the current 856 00:49:45,899 --> 00:49:48,779 Secretary of State would be the first cabinet secretary in the 857 00:49:48,779 --> 00:49:52,289 line of succession, but he's out of office by noon. Donald 858 00:49:52,289 --> 00:49:55,289 Trump's pick for Secretary of State Rex Tillerson may not be 859 00:49:55,289 --> 00:49:58,589 confirmed for another week or two. So who would be Secretary 860 00:49:58,589 --> 00:50:01,139 of State on Friday afternoon rotos according to State 861 00:50:01,139 --> 00:50:03,539 Department sources, the job would fall to the highest 862 00:50:03,539 --> 00:50:06,629 ranking non political official in the department. The 863 00:50:06,629 --> 00:50:10,079 Undersecretary for Political Affairs, Tom Shannon, one of 864 00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:13,199 the most obscure possibilities is that someone who is an Acting 865 00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:15,569 Secretary of State someone lower down the line and Secretary of 866 00:50:15,569 --> 00:50:19,619 State State Department today assumes the Acting Secretary of 867 00:50:19,619 --> 00:50:22,379 State position is in the line and the worst happens and that 868 00:50:22,379 --> 00:50:24,539 person becomes president at least for a while, but the 869 00:50:24,539 --> 00:50:25,169 uncertainty 870 00:50:25,169 --> 00:50:29,579 creates the potential for chaos, high theater, or a hit TV drama. 871 00:50:29,940 --> 00:50:33,240 Sir, you are now the president of the United States. 872 00:50:34,770 --> 00:50:38,160 In ABC is designated survivor Kiefer Sutherland plays an 873 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,890 obscure Cabinet Secretary unexpectedly thrust 874 00:50:40,980 --> 00:50:46,230 you get the idea. So first of all, wow. Who decided to put 875 00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:46,950 this together? 876 00:50:48,929 --> 00:50:51,029 Maybe it's a native ad for ABC. 877 00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:53,220 That's the only thing I could think of because it keeps on 878 00:50:53,220 --> 00:50:56,070 going and going about the ABC show, which is okay. I mean, 879 00:50:56,070 --> 00:50:58,500 I've seen it a couple episodes. I was following it for a bit, 880 00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:04,470 and I got bored of it. It's not watchable. And I'm really only 881 00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:07,830 thought that was good to put in there, I guess. 882 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,850 Well, let's transfer this discussion to Manning. Yeah, 883 00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:14,580 good. Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning. Yeah, it's a shame he 884 00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:17,760 retired. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm thinking Chelsea Manning. 885 00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:23,549 Yeah, just a quick precursor. I'll just play like 30 seconds. 886 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:30,239 The news media had this a week ago. Because they, all of a 887 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,219 sudden, they started talking about it started talking. This 888 00:51:32,219 --> 00:51:37,349 is from January 11. on NBC. Was Chelsea Manning a spy. 889 00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:42,270 She was not. She was an individual who I think we count 890 00:51:42,270 --> 00:51:46,350 on. And in America, she was a whistleblower. She was somebody 891 00:51:46,350 --> 00:51:50,700 who turns to like so many other whistleblowers, a journalist in 892 00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:54,180 order to reveal information that the American public not only 893 00:51:54,810 --> 00:51:56,370 should know, but needs to know. 894 00:51:56,610 --> 00:51:59,610 Army Reserve Officer, David Coombs, was Manning's defense 895 00:51:59,610 --> 00:52:03,030 lawyer. He convinced her to plead guilty to numerous counts. 896 00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:05,430 So that goes on and on and on. And they talk about possible 897 00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:08,730 pardons. And this was a week ago, all over the news media. 898 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,810 I'm pretty sure it was leaked. Maybe maybe to give them more 899 00:52:12,810 --> 00:52:15,030 credibility, like, oh, yeah, I'll give you guys some that'll 900 00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:15,720 actually have 901 00:52:15,810 --> 00:52:18,480 it. I think it'd be less more likely to do that to see what 902 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,590 the reaction would be 903 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,570 as a trial balloon. Good idea. 904 00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:25,889 Yeah, but I didn't expect that reaction to be so screwy. I 905 00:52:25,889 --> 00:52:28,829 mean, the here's I have the short, I have a series of clips, 906 00:52:28,829 --> 00:52:32,969 we have the short clip of Obama announcing it. And then it 907 00:52:32,969 --> 00:52:36,629 doesn't really say that much. Although he may, he makes one 908 00:52:36,629 --> 00:52:38,759 point in there that the Republicans don't seem to 909 00:52:38,759 --> 00:52:39,719 accept. First of 910 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:45,600 all, let's be clear, let's be clear on Chelsea Manning, as 911 00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:55,860 served a tough prison sentence. So the notion that the average 912 00:52:55,860 --> 00:53:00,330 person who was thinking about disclosing vital classified 913 00:53:00,330 --> 00:53:06,690 information, I would think that it goes on punished. I don't 914 00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:12,480 think would get that impression from the sense that Chelsea 915 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:21,510 Manning has served has been my view that given she went to 916 00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:30,720 trial. That due process was carried out that she took 917 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:37,800 responsibility for her crime point that the sentence that she 918 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,150 received was very disproportional, 919 00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:47,490 disproportionate relative to what other lawmakers had 920 00:53:47,490 --> 00:53:48,030 received. 921 00:53:49,650 --> 00:53:53,160 And the points he's making in there were directed at Snowden. 922 00:53:53,730 --> 00:53:58,650 Oh, yeah. And this whole thing, in fact, NBC was who I now think 923 00:53:58,650 --> 00:54:01,830 is pretty much carrying the ball for the agency, the intelligence 924 00:54:01,830 --> 00:54:08,250 community, more so than CBS. I think had probably done the best 925 00:54:08,250 --> 00:54:12,630 job of of kind of presenting it as something that's okay, now 926 00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:15,900 that we can do this. And I have a couple of clips. There's the 927 00:54:16,140 --> 00:54:20,160 NBC on Manning clip. And then I think it would follow that with 928 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,750 the Snowden angle. NBC on Manning sorry. 929 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,020 He's tried to commit suicide last year. She is currently 930 00:54:28,020 --> 00:54:31,410 incarcerated in the male military prison at Leavenworth, 931 00:54:31,410 --> 00:54:35,820 Kansas. Was the government able to point to any specific damage 932 00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:39,210 as a result of the releases from Chelsea Manning? No, they 933 00:54:39,210 --> 00:54:43,950 were not. And we had secret sessions of the court martial, 934 00:54:44,340 --> 00:54:47,130 where that would be the place that the government would do 935 00:54:47,130 --> 00:54:50,520 that. And the answer was no, what they would be able to show 936 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,090 and what they did show was certain diplomats had their 937 00:54:54,090 --> 00:54:57,090 feelings hurt. Certain countries were upset 938 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,540 Manning's 35 years sentence is the longest any leak Er has ever 939 00:55:00,540 --> 00:55:03,990 received. But not everyone supports the decision. A senior 940 00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:07,740 US official tells NBC News Secretary of Defense Ash Carter 941 00:55:07,770 --> 00:55:12,120 did not support the commutation At her trial. Manning apologized 942 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,540 for her actions, but that apology was never heard outside 943 00:55:15,540 --> 00:55:19,740 the courtroom until last week when NBC news broadcast it. 944 00:55:20,460 --> 00:55:23,970 So interesting is it's not a pardon, but a commutation right 945 00:55:23,970 --> 00:55:24,090 off. 946 00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:29,579 Yeah, well, yeah. Well, I think they needed to keep make sure 947 00:55:29,579 --> 00:55:32,399 that she remained guilty of charge of the charges that just 948 00:55:32,429 --> 00:55:35,189 cut the sentence down. That's all it is. Right. Right. But 949 00:55:35,189 --> 00:55:38,279 they got her out before the 35 years for pretty much doing 950 00:55:38,279 --> 00:55:40,649 nothing. And I liked the idea of this guy saying, Hey, we looked 951 00:55:40,649 --> 00:55:43,949 at this. All that happened was a few diplomats feelings 952 00:55:43,950 --> 00:55:47,040 were hurt. feelings were hurt. That's the best part. Oh, my 953 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,340 feelings were hurt because we I was calling people douchebag. 954 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,090 So NBC goes on and they send they just sociate the whole 955 00:55:54,090 --> 00:55:58,290 thing was snowed in eventually, but let's skip over to PBS. And 956 00:55:58,290 --> 00:56:02,400 they had actually a complete report. That wasn't wasn't too 957 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,060 cloudy. 958 00:56:03,509 --> 00:56:08,339 President Obama today also commuted the prison sentence of 959 00:56:08,339 --> 00:56:11,969 Chelsea Manning for passing classified military and 960 00:56:11,969 --> 00:56:16,649 diplomatic files to WikiLeaks. The former US Army Intelligence 961 00:56:16,649 --> 00:56:22,199 Analyst is serving a sentence of 35 years. She is one of 209 962 00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:26,309 inmates who received commutations today, another 64 963 00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:30,299 received pardons. Charlie Savage is covering the story for The 964 00:56:30,299 --> 00:56:33,749 New York Times. Charlie Savage, remind us what Chelsea Manning 965 00:56:33,749 --> 00:56:35,249 was originally charged with. 966 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,290 Hi, yes, thanks for having me on. So when Chelsea Manning was 967 00:56:40,290 --> 00:56:43,890 arrested in 2010, and charged with passing documents to 968 00:56:43,890 --> 00:56:47,520 WikiLeaks, she was charged with numerous accounts of violating 969 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,810 the Espionage Act, and also was charged with aiding the enemy, 970 00:56:51,810 --> 00:56:54,810 which is essentially the military justice systems version 971 00:56:54,810 --> 00:56:59,610 of treason. She was convicted of the Espionage Act charges most 972 00:56:59,610 --> 00:57:02,790 of them, but was acquitted of aiding the enemy. And she was 973 00:57:02,790 --> 00:57:06,990 sentenced to 35 years in prison, which is dramatically longer 974 00:57:06,990 --> 00:57:11,370 than any other prison sentence ever carried out in the American 975 00:57:11,370 --> 00:57:13,110 justice system for leak case. 976 00:57:13,170 --> 00:57:16,950 And do we know why the President decided to commute her sentence. 977 00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:21,389 So there was a briefing call with senior White House 978 00:57:21,389 --> 00:57:24,539 officials after these commutations and pardons were 979 00:57:24,539 --> 00:57:28,259 announced, and we senior White House official, we weren't 980 00:57:28,259 --> 00:57:31,139 allowed to name them under the ground rules, described a little 981 00:57:31,139 --> 00:57:34,679 bit of the President's thinking about this. He said, Look, she 982 00:57:35,399 --> 00:57:39,419 admitted that what she had done, was wrong and apologized for it 983 00:57:39,629 --> 00:57:44,819 and expressed remorse, and has now been serving nearly seven 984 00:57:44,849 --> 00:57:50,219 years in prison for it, and most people who have been convicted 985 00:57:50,249 --> 00:57:53,849 of the leak case in leak cases, it's been about a dozen, most of 986 00:57:53,849 --> 00:57:57,419 them in the last eight years have been convicted have been 987 00:57:57,419 --> 00:58:01,589 sentenced to you know, one, two or three years, not 35. And so 988 00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:06,089 part of this was also the equity of making the sentence more in 989 00:58:06,089 --> 00:58:09,869 the range of what other people accused of similar conduct have 990 00:58:09,899 --> 00:58:10,379 received. 991 00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:13,979 So the question is what signals does this send tonight the 992 00:58:13,979 --> 00:58:17,339 Speaker of the House Paul Ryan has issued a statement saying 993 00:58:17,339 --> 00:58:19,139 quote, this is just outrageous. 994 00:58:20,190 --> 00:58:24,390 Okay, so let's stop there. And then play a douchebag for Paul 995 00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:28,770 Ryan. You know, the thing that I should outrageous everybody else 996 00:58:28,770 --> 00:58:31,290 is like they said, getting one two or three years that she's 997 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,870 gotten 35 And this is outrageous. They let her go 998 00:58:33,870 --> 00:58:34,200 after 999 00:58:34,199 --> 00:58:37,139 seven. The thing that gets me in this because 1000 00:58:37,139 --> 00:58:39,479 there's nothing in these releases. You've read them 1001 00:58:39,479 --> 00:58:41,579 they're just a bunch of dumb memos. Hey, there's dinner 1002 00:58:41,579 --> 00:58:43,229 tonight. Yes, cables, 1003 00:58:43,230 --> 00:58:45,120 and people are saying calling other people, you know, 1004 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,600 officials and they're like, Guys an asshole. I mean, the main 1005 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,540 thing, the main thing was the video. We have the helicopter 1006 00:58:51,540 --> 00:58:54,330 gunship with the audio of the guys, I can't really blame them 1007 00:58:54,330 --> 00:58:57,270 because it's saying, Oh, they're they're in a war zone. But 1008 00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:57,480 they're like, 1009 00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:58,230 yeah. 1010 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:03,930 That's really the 1011 00:59:03,929 --> 00:59:07,559 optics are bad. She's very, but but 1012 00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:11,819 here's the thing. Chelsea Manning, leaked all that 1013 00:59:11,819 --> 00:59:16,319 information to WikiLeaks. So here's what's crazy. If you look 1014 00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:21,419 at the bag right now, you got the bots going. Oh, so fabulous. 1015 00:59:21,449 --> 00:59:28,589 He's so good. How Obama? Yes, yes, yes. Yes, Queen? Yes. Yes. 1016 00:59:28,589 --> 00:59:33,599 But yes, Chelsea, but at the same time, the same people are 1017 00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:39,299 saying WikiLeaks is crap. They change the emails is bullcrap. 1018 00:59:39,299 --> 00:59:43,049 It's not legitimate. They have to choose one or the other. You 1019 00:59:43,049 --> 00:59:45,839 know, you can have both ways. Here's Jake Tapper. This is the 1020 00:59:45,869 --> 00:59:46,889 clip I played earlier. It's 1021 00:59:46,889 --> 00:59:48,839 interesting also, because I remember when the WikiLeaks 1022 00:59:48,839 --> 00:59:51,539 happened. It was a White House correspondent like you, Margaret 1023 00:59:51,539 --> 00:59:53,609 and I remember the the White House was so outraged. They were 1024 00:59:53,609 --> 00:59:56,699 so angry. They were so convinced that these reams of documents 1025 00:59:56,699 --> 01:00:00,539 1000s and 1000s of pages of documents, logs from Iraq. flogs 1026 01:00:00,539 --> 01:00:05,129 from Afghanistan, we're going to reveal to our enemies, sources 1027 01:00:05,129 --> 01:00:08,579 and methods individuals named in these documents. Now, I don't 1028 01:00:08,579 --> 01:00:11,969 know, if there have actually been any victims as a result 1029 01:00:11,969 --> 01:00:14,759 that you could clearly say, this was WikiLeaks, and therefore 1030 01:00:14,759 --> 01:00:17,549 this person in Afghanistan or Iraq died? I don't know. But 1031 01:00:17,549 --> 01:00:17,729 that's 1032 01:00:17,730 --> 01:00:19,560 absolutely right. That was the argument that had greatly 1033 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,930 compromised US national security, and that you had to 1034 01:00:21,930 --> 01:00:23,310 make an example out of this sort of thing. 1035 01:00:23,639 --> 01:00:28,949 And I will say that the way that Senator Cotton describes Private 1036 01:00:28,949 --> 01:00:32,489 Manning, is how the White House when I was a White House 1037 01:00:32,489 --> 01:00:36,239 correspondent described Private Manning as well, they were 1038 01:00:36,479 --> 01:00:40,199 furious. They were outraged. They could they thought that 1039 01:00:40,229 --> 01:00:42,449 that those of us in the press who were reading these 1040 01:00:42,449 --> 01:00:46,169 WikiLeaks, that that we were doing something wrong by by 1041 01:00:46,169 --> 01:00:46,739 reading them. 1042 01:00:47,070 --> 01:00:50,520 And if I recall correctly, it really put WikiLeaks on the map. 1043 01:00:50,550 --> 01:00:54,510 That particular case those files made WikiLeaks famous, 1044 01:00:54,930 --> 01:00:57,330 especially the gun to ship video. 1045 01:00:57,420 --> 01:01:01,920 Yeah. So yeah, it's just it's, if anything, this is confusing 1046 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,060 people more brains. And heads are exploding everywhere because 1047 01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:06,540 of this. 1048 01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:13,649 Well, NBC going back to NBC, they end up moving the argument, 1049 01:01:13,649 --> 01:01:16,079 they split the argument a little bit, and they try to move it 1050 01:01:16,349 --> 01:01:21,779 kind of to Assange. And then just Snowden. Because they want 1051 01:01:21,779 --> 01:01:24,299 to make this association they really want they're really going 1052 01:01:24,299 --> 01:01:28,289 after Snowden. And in another big way. And this, again, this 1053 01:01:28,289 --> 01:01:32,189 is the reason we believe or I personally believe that the 1054 01:01:32,189 --> 01:01:36,989 Russians are big a hole since 2013, when this all began the 1055 01:01:36,989 --> 01:01:41,579 anti Russian stuff. Because of Snowden, because we don't have 1056 01:01:41,579 --> 01:01:44,039 an extradition treaty with the Russians and whose fault is 1057 01:01:44,039 --> 01:01:49,259 that? I don't, so it was. So the Russians really don't have any 1058 01:01:49,259 --> 01:01:52,649 they can't just grab this guy and send him off there. I don't 1059 01:01:52,649 --> 01:01:55,709 know what they what we expect. But let's play NBC on Manning 1060 01:01:55,709 --> 01:01:56,999 Snowden angle. 1061 01:01:57,510 --> 01:02:00,630 Sources inside the intelligence community believe the reason 1062 01:02:00,630 --> 01:02:03,930 Manning sent us was so stiff was because Edward Snowden was 1063 01:02:03,930 --> 01:02:07,290 massive leaks came to light just as Manning was being sentenced. 1064 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,370 Snowden was beyond the reach of the US and Russia. Manning paid 1065 01:02:11,370 --> 01:02:14,910 the price. A petition for a pardon from Mr. Snowden, with 1066 01:02:14,910 --> 01:02:18,360 over a million signatures was not acted upon by the White 1067 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,440 House fester. 1068 01:02:22,139 --> 01:02:25,559 So they make that connection and they use their one of their best 1069 01:02:25,859 --> 01:02:29,249 hit people to do it. But let's just do now let's play this is 1070 01:02:29,249 --> 01:02:32,459 the NBC Snowden Putin. They bring Putin and Putin Trump 1071 01:02:32,789 --> 01:02:35,969 everybody's everybody's brought into this clip. 1072 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,150 Alright, Cynthia McFadden in New York. Thank you. And speaking of 1073 01:02:39,150 --> 01:02:43,020 Snowden, his current home Russia Today Vladimir Putin came to the 1074 01:02:43,020 --> 01:02:46,560 defensive President Elect Donald Trump, breaking his silence 1075 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,680 about those unverified allegations leaked about Mr. 1076 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,070 Trump last week. Well here at home more Democrats are joining 1077 01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:56,910 an inauguration boycott with just three days to go. NBC is 1078 01:02:56,910 --> 01:02:58,320 Hallie Jackson has more. 1079 01:03:00,179 --> 01:03:04,379 Tonight from Vladimir Putin a perhaps unsurprising response to 1080 01:03:04,379 --> 01:03:07,319 those salacious but unsubstantiated allegations 1081 01:03:07,319 --> 01:03:11,249 about Donald Trump. Rubbish The Russian leader says defending 1082 01:03:11,249 --> 01:03:14,999 Trump and his first public statement about that report. I 1083 01:03:14,999 --> 01:03:18,119 see Putin accusing the Obama administration of trying to 1084 01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:22,199 delegitimize Trump working to solidify a political partnership 1085 01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:26,159 even before it officially begins Friday, Inauguration Day. But 1086 01:03:26,189 --> 01:03:29,699 dozens of Democrats will be boycotting the no shows now 1087 01:03:29,699 --> 01:03:33,329 numbering more than 50 scattered reports of boycotts popped up in 1088 01:03:33,329 --> 01:03:38,669 1973 with Richard Nixon and 2001 with George W. Bush, but nothing 1089 01:03:38,669 --> 01:03:41,759 that reached this level of coverage sparked by comments 1090 01:03:41,759 --> 01:03:44,429 from Congressman and civil rights freedom writer John 1091 01:03:44,429 --> 01:03:47,609 Lewis, who despite saying this would be his first missed 1092 01:03:47,609 --> 01:03:51,419 inauguration, also skipped President Bush's in 2001. 1093 01:03:51,449 --> 01:03:55,649 He then attended like so many other members of Congress to the 1094 01:03:55,649 --> 01:03:57,569 present President Bush was a friend of mine, and he got 1095 01:03:57,569 --> 01:04:00,659 caught in a very bad life. So let's see what happens as far as 1096 01:04:00,689 --> 01:04:03,779 other people not going that's okay because we need so badly 1097 01:04:03,870 --> 01:04:10,050 demonstrations already starting in Washington. At least 99 of 1098 01:04:10,050 --> 01:04:14,760 them planned this week, some for most against with the different 1099 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,240 public protests coming from a top intelligence official CIA 1100 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:22,260 head John Brennan taking serious offense to Trump's accusation he 1101 01:04:22,260 --> 01:04:26,310 leaked sensitive information and suggestion intelligence agencies 1102 01:04:26,310 --> 01:04:29,880 use Nazi like tactics. Brennan telling the Wall Street Journal 1103 01:04:29,940 --> 01:04:32,910 when his integrity is challenged, quote, that's where 1104 01:04:32,910 --> 01:04:34,980 I think the line is crossed. 1105 01:04:35,849 --> 01:04:39,749 Oh, my goodness. Oh, 1106 01:04:39,809 --> 01:04:43,769 Randy was never mentioned. Of course. No. But he took offense. 1107 01:04:44,339 --> 01:04:47,729 We can take you can take a powder. He's our gym. Yeah, he's 1108 01:04:47,729 --> 01:04:48,059 and he's 1109 01:04:48,059 --> 01:04:52,949 gone. pencil pusher go away. And you have one more PBS man and 1110 01:04:52,949 --> 01:04:53,429 clip you want 1111 01:04:53,429 --> 01:04:56,399 Yes. It's the way that PBS thing finished up and I thought that 1112 01:04:56,399 --> 01:05:00,659 PBS, again handled is probably better than the other networks 1113 01:05:00,659 --> 01:05:03,449 were just kind of glossed over a bunch of stuff tried to bring 1114 01:05:03,449 --> 01:05:07,379 their hit people in to just do guilt by association measures 1115 01:05:07,379 --> 01:05:13,619 like this Putin thing. And like Halle says, All unsurprisingly, 1116 01:05:13,739 --> 01:05:17,009 Putin came to his defense, which I just thought was offensive. 1117 01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:20,039 Yeah. Okay, Manning on 1118 01:05:20,039 --> 01:05:23,459 PBS do tonight the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan has issued 1119 01:05:23,459 --> 01:05:27,029 a statement saying, quote, this is just outrageous. He says 1120 01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:30,299 Chelsea Manning's treachery put American lives at registry 1121 01:05:30,329 --> 01:05:33,839 expose some of our nation's most sensitive secrets. And he says 1122 01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:36,299 the president now leaves in place a dangerous precedent. 1123 01:05:36,479 --> 01:05:39,929 Those who compromise our national security won't be held 1124 01:05:39,929 --> 01:05:42,389 accountable for their crimes. That's one 1125 01:05:42,390 --> 01:05:45,960 of many statements like that coming out of Republicans on the 1126 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,890 Hill. We haven't heard yet from President elect Trump on this. 1127 01:05:49,890 --> 01:05:53,400 But that same is reflected by what other people like Senator 1128 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,360 McCain and others have said, I would say is a point of just a 1129 01:05:57,390 --> 01:06:00,510 clarification. None of the documents that Chelsea Manning 1130 01:06:00,510 --> 01:06:04,590 leaked were classified above the merely classified level. That is 1131 01:06:04,590 --> 01:06:07,290 to say none of them were top secret. That was another thing 1132 01:06:07,290 --> 01:06:09,420 that the White House was stressing today and comparing 1133 01:06:09,420 --> 01:06:13,500 her to Edward Snowden, who President Obama declined to 1134 01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:17,040 pardon. So that to say they're some of the most sensitive 1135 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,150 secrets is an exaggeration. And also Military Prosecutors all at 1136 01:06:21,150 --> 01:06:25,200 the at her court martial did not accuse her or present any 1137 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,080 evidence that anyone was actually killed as a result of 1138 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:32,550 her leaks. On the other hand, the government did scramble 1139 01:06:32,580 --> 01:06:36,900 afterwards to move some people out of harm's potential harm's 1140 01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:39,960 way, who were named in some of the documents as having helped 1141 01:06:40,140 --> 01:06:44,130 American diplomats or troops in very dangerous countries, lest 1142 01:06:44,130 --> 01:06:47,130 they come to harm. So the fact that no one was killed didn't 1143 01:06:47,130 --> 01:06:50,730 mean that it wasn't indeed putting some people at risk. And 1144 01:06:50,730 --> 01:06:52,650 she has apologized for having done that. 1145 01:06:54,270 --> 01:06:58,140 Yeah, well, okay. It was a very different story seven years ago. 1146 01:06:59,370 --> 01:07:00,600 Very, very different. 1147 01:07:01,139 --> 01:07:04,349 I have a couple of more clips that will play later, again, 1148 01:07:04,349 --> 01:07:08,639 where they, as these guys leave their rewrite. They're doing 1149 01:07:08,639 --> 01:07:14,219 that. And by the way, when Obama finishes thing is last press 1150 01:07:14,219 --> 01:07:17,309 conference, it would have been nice if he had said, you know, I 1151 01:07:17,309 --> 01:07:19,499 had pride, I feel disappointed in myself, because I had 1152 01:07:19,499 --> 01:07:23,279 promised to shut down get Mo and I was unable to do it. It was 1153 01:07:23,279 --> 01:07:26,339 more complicated than I thought. I didn't know there's gonna be 1154 01:07:26,339 --> 01:07:28,919 so much resistance. I'm sorry, I didn't miss the one thing I 1155 01:07:28,919 --> 01:07:32,969 didn't. He never does that. never apologizes for any of his 1156 01:07:32,969 --> 01:07:36,809 failure to the bank. And that's one of his take it to the bank 1157 01:07:36,809 --> 01:07:40,169 things. And anyways, I just found that kind of 1158 01:07:40,169 --> 01:07:43,739 disappointing. And I find it very disappointing that the 1159 01:07:43,739 --> 01:07:47,729 Republicans are all in on this, let's punish this poor Chelsea 1160 01:07:47,729 --> 01:07:51,719 Manning person who now leaked a bunch of funny memos, as far as 1161 01:07:51,719 --> 01:07:55,589 I was concerned is more humor than anything else. Because she 1162 01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:59,279 put all this stuff at risk, and there, and meanwhile, Obama put 1163 01:07:59,279 --> 01:08:03,749 more whistleblowers in jail than anybody ever. Yeah. Okay. 1164 01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:08,699 President history. And nobody says anything about that. And 1165 01:08:08,699 --> 01:08:10,619 yet we're supposed to be protecting whistleblowers that 1166 01:08:10,619 --> 01:08:13,109 are that are citing corruption and government. That's what 1167 01:08:13,109 --> 01:08:16,739 they're doing. I don't know. I just find the whole state very 1168 01:08:16,739 --> 01:08:19,829 disappointing end of year, and I'm very disappointed by like, I 1169 01:08:19,859 --> 01:08:23,789 didn't even give us a crap. But I just think that Paul Ryan and 1170 01:08:23,789 --> 01:08:25,499 McCain and incredible 1171 01:08:25,980 --> 01:08:30,480 they are doing Rosie O'Donnell, who of course, is part of the 1172 01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:35,010 resistance. She says, hey, you know, Trump has a legitimate 1173 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,400 candidate. So why don't we just have someone, you know, 1174 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:43,680 temporary president and her idea was John McCain. Yeah, well, 1175 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,660 Rosie O'Donnell should just choose our president, that's 1176 01:08:45,660 --> 01:08:49,680 fine. I'll wrap this up with kind of a tease what we'll do 1177 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:55,410 after our, what we'll do in the B Block, as finally an actual 1178 01:08:55,410 --> 01:08:58,800 journalist came out and said something really good. Bob 1179 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,160 Woodward, of course, one half of the Watergate reporting team 1180 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,430 that brought you the Watergate tapes, and the whole story, etc. 1181 01:09:05,790 --> 01:09:10,590 And he is talking here about the golden shower dossier. 1182 01:09:10,620 --> 01:09:12,900 Why do you think and this is something we discuss with both 1183 01:09:12,900 --> 01:09:15,870 of our guests of the way that the intelligence community 1184 01:09:15,870 --> 01:09:20,460 handled the so called Russia dossier? And overall, how do you 1185 01:09:20,460 --> 01:09:23,370 think of the way they've handled Donald Trump? I think what's 1186 01:09:23,370 --> 01:09:27,750 underreported? Here is Trump's point of view on it. And you 1187 01:09:27,780 --> 01:09:33,270 laid it out when those former CIA people said these things 1188 01:09:33,270 --> 01:09:39,360 about Trump that he was a recruited agent of the Russia is 1189 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,290 full full. Yeah. And a useful fool. I mean, they started this 1190 01:09:43,530 --> 01:09:50,340 and in Trump's mind, he knows the old adage once the CIA man 1191 01:09:50,370 --> 01:09:54,420 always the CIA man, and no one came out and said those people 1192 01:09:54,420 --> 01:09:59,130 shouldn't be saying things so then act two is the briefing 1193 01:09:59,130 --> 01:10:05,580 when this dossier is put out. I've lived in this world for 45 1194 01:10:05,580 --> 01:10:09,570 years where you get things and people make allegations, that is 1195 01:10:09,570 --> 01:10:15,090 a garbage document and never should have been presented in is 1196 01:10:15,090 --> 01:10:18,660 part of an intelligence briefing, as you suggested other 1197 01:10:18,660 --> 01:10:23,310 channels, have the White House Counsel give it to Trump's 1198 01:10:23,310 --> 01:10:29,190 Incoming White House Counsel. So Trump's right to be upset about 1199 01:10:29,190 --> 01:10:32,940 that. And I think if you've looked at the real chronology 1200 01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:37,020 and the nature of the battle here, those intelligence chiefs 1201 01:10:37,020 --> 01:10:40,800 who are the best we've had, who were terrific and have done 1202 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:45,180 great work, made a mistake here. And when people make mistakes, 1203 01:10:45,180 --> 01:10:46,470 they should apologize. 1204 01:10:46,530 --> 01:10:48,870 Yeah, it would be nice if he said that on some 1205 01:10:48,900 --> 01:10:52,380 Wow, LD guy give me a borderline Tip of the day for bringing that 1206 01:10:52,380 --> 01:10:58,860 one to the fore. And we know you know he has he is in the fraud. 1207 01:10:59,580 --> 01:11:03,930 All that we can figure out he is a CIA guy. Totally. So he's not 1208 01:11:03,930 --> 01:11:06,900 coming out to I would just want to remind people, he's not 1209 01:11:06,900 --> 01:11:10,950 coming out just on his just yakking away about something he 1210 01:11:11,460 --> 01:11:15,450 just casually he's been given the go ahead to do this. Do 1211 01:11:15,450 --> 01:11:19,140 this. Yeah. So there's something there. That may be what you 1212 01:11:19,170 --> 01:11:22,230 talked about earlier, because we know Brennan's just a douchebag 1213 01:11:22,770 --> 01:11:25,830 or the guy, you know, just Obama appointee have pencil pusher, 1214 01:11:25,950 --> 01:11:30,540 and it could be the rank and file. The second you know, that 1215 01:11:30,540 --> 01:11:33,810 second or third tier people to give given him the go ahead to 1216 01:11:33,810 --> 01:11:39,210 do this. Which means that they're maybe not as antiTrump 1217 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:44,760 over as you suggested. Yeah. As I said, which is, would it and 1218 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,880 Glenn Greenwald suggested that the whole agencies just hates 1219 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,650 Trump, but it may not be true 1220 01:11:49,650 --> 01:11:54,690 may not be that bad. Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for 1221 01:11:54,690 --> 01:11:58,650 your courage and today in the morning to you John C. C stands 1222 01:11:58,650 --> 01:12:01,650 for Chelsea Manning commutation Devorah egg 1223 01:12:02,130 --> 01:12:06,330 in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry also in the morning all 1224 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,950 ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air and subs in the 1225 01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:11,370 water and 1226 01:12:12,510 --> 01:12:16,200 and in the morning to all of our listeners on the stream no 1227 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,900 agenda stream.com Thank you very much for hanging in there during 1228 01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:22,410 our delayed start of the program. In the morning to 1229 01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:26,550 PacMan retro he brought us the artwork for Episode Eight, nine 1230 01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:31,920 or five Yes We Can the title of that fun artwork with the no 1231 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:36,570 agenda sign says no small aircraft. No hot tubs. Stay 1232 01:12:36,570 --> 01:12:42,060 safe. I like that a lot. And thank you very much to all of 1233 01:12:42,060 --> 01:12:44,010 our artists who are always submitting artwork, no agenda 1234 01:12:44,010 --> 01:12:48,390 art generator.com tighly appreciated. We really really 1235 01:12:48,420 --> 01:12:50,550 love looking at the art after the show and choosing and of 1236 01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:52,320 course that's why we get the credit when you do it. 1237 01:12:53,730 --> 01:12:56,700 Well, we have one executive producer for this show, which is 1238 01:12:56,700 --> 01:13:02,760 show 896 for more shows away from the fabulous show 900 And 1239 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,240 you have to imagine that's pretty big deal. Yeah. And it's 1240 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:10,110 two years away from your watch and 900,000 Yeah, it'd be almost 1241 01:13:10,110 --> 01:13:17,070 over a year from now we'll do it show 1000 Wow Bruce Wilkie in a 1242 01:13:17,070 --> 01:13:19,260 I'm gonna give you a Ted see if you can pronounce this. 1243 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,250 Okay, I would say PL up 1244 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,400 wrong. Okay, it's Paul up 1245 01:13:26,430 --> 01:13:29,790 Paul up. Oh, interesting. Pui. wallop good. 1246 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,750 Yeah, pui a ll up it's an Indian tribe it yes it is pronounced 1247 01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:40,170 Paul up. At least they pronounce it Paul up and follow up. You 1248 01:13:40,170 --> 01:13:44,970 I've had her pronounced poo all up. But Paul up is the follow up 1249 01:13:44,970 --> 01:13:49,380 sounds good. Sound is an easier way to pronounce it. Anyway 300 1250 01:13:49,380 --> 01:13:53,160 bucks. Washington that's in Washington State law with a 1251 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:57,510 number of other silly sounding towns. Hey guys, is Bruce here. 1252 01:13:57,540 --> 01:13:59,190 The face bag jingle guy. 1253 01:13:59,220 --> 01:14:07,440 Oh, hold on this that's the one No way. I think this is the one 1254 01:14:07,470 --> 01:14:08,670 it's not it. Now this is it. 1255 01:14:13,260 --> 01:14:17,460 When Adam needs to make an example of some typical slaves, 1256 01:14:18,090 --> 01:14:23,520 he just reads the comments on their Facebook page on Facebook. 1257 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,710 gone on some brain cells Faceman. 1258 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:33,120 I put that in the end of the show. forgotten about that one? 1259 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,300 Not sure if you guys saw my tweet, but I dropped some no 1260 01:14:36,300 --> 01:14:39,540 agenda on these liberal Christians at a live podcast 1261 01:14:39,540 --> 01:14:43,980 called Ask science make. Oh, he's not a scientist and just 1262 01:14:43,980 --> 01:14:49,350 waxes poetic about his feelings. Entire show was a Trump cry a 1263 01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:54,060 Trump cry fest. If the four minutes why are you listening to 1264 01:14:54,060 --> 01:14:58,800 this? He says For I always get a kick out of this guys who hate 1265 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,630 my columns. I read your column six times. And I hate to use 1266 01:15:03,630 --> 01:15:08,880 think I hate it. 54 minutes in, I dropped some value for value 1267 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:13,290 info on them. And then he's got a link I guess. Okay. And then 1268 01:15:13,290 --> 01:15:15,180 he asked John, when you're going to do a meetup here in the 1269 01:15:15,180 --> 01:15:18,090 Pacific Northwest, keep up the great work. I'm also calling out 1270 01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:23,370 just in heart Ford, or Hartford as a douchebag. 1271 01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:30,720 Not as WE DON'T HAVE A BONER jingle. So does the car meet the 1272 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,410 only executive producer today so might as well you've got karma. 1273 01:15:34,410 --> 01:15:37,110 Here you go. You, 1274 01:15:38,850 --> 01:15:44,970 Johnny of the swamp in Washington DC. Do 3457 Funny 1275 01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:48,660 it'd be Associate Executive Producer for show 896 Thank you, 1276 01:15:48,660 --> 01:15:51,240 John and Adam for making the best podcast in the universe. 1277 01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:55,890 Please accept my overdue donation of 23457 on side 23457 1278 01:15:55,890 --> 01:15:59,010 Not six. As I have been freeloading, a freeloading 1279 01:15:59,010 --> 01:16:03,150 douchebag for too long, 10 years ago as a listener to the seed 1280 01:16:03,150 --> 01:16:06,870 man, but it was too hard to take him seriously. And I was always 1281 01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:09,120 looking for an alternative perspective about the media 1282 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:13,290 manipulation that was more grounded. I'm very happy to have 1283 01:16:13,290 --> 01:16:16,080 found no agenda during the election cycle for keeping my 1284 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,590 sanity, especially since I am deep in the heart of the swamp. 1285 01:16:20,700 --> 01:16:25,050 I eagerly support the inaugural Eve episode. Johnny, this one. 1286 01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:30,480 The seed man has asked me to drop by tomorrow during the 1287 01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:31,350 inauguration. 1288 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,570 Oh, you can do a little? Yeah, 1289 01:16:33,570 --> 01:16:36,450 I'll do that. The tickets didn't come through. That didn't 1290 01:16:36,450 --> 01:16:40,050 happen. So. Oh, yeah. No juice. No juice. 1291 01:16:40,530 --> 01:16:46,950 No, hold on a second. You were listed? Yeah. On some website is 1292 01:16:46,980 --> 01:16:54,360 one of the celebrities. That was that supported Trump supported 1293 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,520 Trump even though you really didn't you just you kind of 1294 01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:02,820 supported truth. You supported around Trump. Yeah, you think 1295 01:17:02,820 --> 01:17:05,580 that they would have had done enough research to find you and 1296 01:17:05,580 --> 01:17:10,380 then give you a ticket? Yeah, not happening. Johnny, the swamp 1297 01:17:10,380 --> 01:17:13,350 says as a PS is a little bird told me that BuzzFeed is getting 1298 01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:14,730 no press credentials this Friday. 1299 01:17:14,730 --> 01:17:18,660 Well, you recall that I also that we heard and before all 1300 01:17:18,660 --> 01:17:22,200 this, this press moving to a different building happen, that 1301 01:17:23,310 --> 01:17:26,610 the Trump administration will be evaluating all press credentials 1302 01:17:26,610 --> 01:17:29,250 every month to see if someone should be invited back or not? 1303 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,930 Well, I think they do that anyway. I don't believe for a 1304 01:17:33,930 --> 01:17:35,310 minute that they don't do that. 1305 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,570 I'm sure I'm sure that they don't call on people for sure. 1306 01:17:39,780 --> 01:17:43,080 Like you're a douche. Yeah. Let me give Johnny of the swamp 1307 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,410 little karma. Although he didn't ask for it. You've got 1308 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:51,750 complimentary karma today. And re lat Obama's last day in 1309 01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:54,180 office. We're getting complimented karma. And I have 1310 01:17:54,180 --> 01:17:54,990 no agenda show. 1311 01:17:55,050 --> 01:17:59,070 And I do want to welcome all of our new listener. We have new 1312 01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:02,550 new listeners soon to be producers who caught me on the 1313 01:18:02,550 --> 01:18:05,670 seat, man. They sent me email. They're happy they found us. So 1314 01:18:05,670 --> 01:18:06,180 it's great. 1315 01:18:07,230 --> 01:18:10,200 I like that. Well, you have to keep doing it. Yeah, I will 1316 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,440 always delete completely. Get as 1317 01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:17,070 I like it. There is an interesting group of people. You 1318 01:18:17,070 --> 01:18:17,400 like it 1319 01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,490 because the guy's doing the job that he that people should be 1320 01:18:20,490 --> 01:18:24,180 doing. He's just he's doing it right. He's not just some, you 1321 01:18:24,180 --> 01:18:27,150 know, guy in his basement doing it like we are just doing a 1322 01:18:27,150 --> 01:18:29,820 simple podcast. He's selling stuff. Yeah, he's selling 1323 01:18:29,820 --> 01:18:31,950 stuff. And he's giving us important information. My 1324 01:18:31,980 --> 01:18:36,480 god for 25 years, they've been growing babies and cows 1325 01:18:36,510 --> 01:18:38,160 I'm saying Indeed. 1326 01:18:39,540 --> 01:18:42,780 Second associate and lastly, Associate Executive Producer for 1327 01:18:42,780 --> 01:18:49,170 show 896 is Ron Norton and Vleuten Netherlands float and 1328 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:55,110 float a float and near Utrecht. Its new near your attraction to 1329 01:18:55,110 --> 01:19:00,870 a 160 since donating last is April 2016. I felt a huge 1330 01:19:00,900 --> 01:19:04,740 douchebag I feel like a huge douchebag for receiving all this 1331 01:19:04,740 --> 01:19:08,250 value for value and it was time to step up again. The universe 1332 01:19:08,250 --> 01:19:11,520 has called me several times the strongest last September when 1333 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,420 visiting Las Vegas for an SAP tech ed conference together with 1334 01:19:15,420 --> 01:19:20,040 a friend and co worker worker Ronald who is still a douche bag 1335 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:24,900 for never donating food bag. boarding the plane from 1336 01:19:24,900 --> 01:19:29,700 Amsterdam and seating in seating in row 33 was the first signal 1337 01:19:30,330 --> 01:19:33,330 getting back in just a big plane getting mac and cheese for 1338 01:19:33,330 --> 01:19:37,260 dinner. Okay universe you made yourself clear. That's another 1339 01:19:37,260 --> 01:19:39,780 as you went on the plane and got on the seat 33 And they gave him 1340 01:19:39,780 --> 01:19:40,890 a mac and cheese. 1341 01:19:43,650 --> 01:19:45,690 Time to donate for sure let's 1342 01:19:45,690 --> 01:19:50,070 say and then the kicker he says having a look at Neil deGrasse 1343 01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:53,940 Tyson during the in flight entertainment made it clear time 1344 01:19:53,940 --> 01:19:54,600 to donate 1345 01:19:54,630 --> 01:20:01,290 Oh man. What was he doing is he have some kind of a Have some 1346 01:20:01,290 --> 01:20:01,530 kind 1347 01:20:01,530 --> 01:20:08,820 of guy rain cloud over his head? Elon, the amount to a 160 is 1348 01:20:08,820 --> 01:20:13,710 what the SLS was Zanza lots of sands no SLS and sands less 1349 01:20:13,710 --> 01:20:14,430 known SLS 1350 01:20:14,430 --> 01:20:17,820 hotel in Vegas tried to overcharge me in resort fee 1351 01:20:19,529 --> 01:20:22,109 oh that's interesting. It's about they very much please 1352 01:20:22,109 --> 01:20:25,919 continue your efforts debunking the media BS Can I get a was he 1353 01:20:25,919 --> 01:20:27,089 got here for a request? Why 1354 01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:30,870 do millennials cry? I don't know what that is. This a second time 1355 01:20:30,870 --> 01:20:35,580 somebody's Why do millennials cry asked for this. Right. 1356 01:20:35,610 --> 01:20:37,530 Somebody else asked for this right? Right. Right, right. 1357 01:20:37,530 --> 01:20:39,990 I don't remember anyone asking for this. I think it was last 1358 01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:42,330 show somebody had this guy. Well, someone asked to tell I 1359 01:20:42,330 --> 01:20:44,940 got the mac and cheese stuff for him. which I'll do now. Even mac 1360 01:20:44,940 --> 01:20:47,760 and cheese. Slaves can get the Mac into 1361 01:20:48,030 --> 01:20:52,860 a mac and cheese. Macaroni and Cheese shatter melted together 1362 01:20:52,890 --> 01:20:58,800 mac and cheese mac and cheese. Mac and cheese like mac and 1363 01:20:58,800 --> 01:20:59,400 cheese 1364 01:20:59,430 --> 01:21:03,480 by Iran. You've got karma. 1365 01:21:05,460 --> 01:21:07,740 Hold on a second chat room was trying to help out here. They 1366 01:21:07,740 --> 01:21:13,410 say it's was a prince cover? Why demonios crybaby 1367 01:21:14,970 --> 01:21:18,990 may be I don't remember it? Well, we're gonna have to have 1368 01:21:18,990 --> 01:21:19,680 it resolved or 1369 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,150 someone will help us out. Okay. 1370 01:21:22,230 --> 01:21:26,940 That concludes our group. People. Yeah, crap. Happens. 1371 01:21:27,930 --> 01:21:31,620 Quick PR mentioned here. Excellent if it's really 1372 01:21:31,620 --> 01:21:35,040 mentioned, but I got a note from Jeff and Calgary. Adam, we 1373 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,320 haven't seen any no agenda inauguration meet up. Let me 1374 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:41,400 know if you have anything. I'll be with DC 911. Truth at 7am. I 1375 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,470 know the seed guy will be roaming around with his info 1376 01:21:43,470 --> 01:21:45,780 warriors. Other than that, I haven't heard anything. Haven't 1377 01:21:45,780 --> 01:21:49,050 seen much activity from the Oathkeepers. Surprising. Okay, 1378 01:21:49,050 --> 01:21:52,980 let me know what's going on. So I think there's a number of 1379 01:21:52,980 --> 01:21:57,930 people who will be in DC, please try and organize it meetup.com. 1380 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,350 See if you can get that to get something together. I think it'd 1381 01:22:01,350 --> 01:22:03,780 be cool the number of people who listened to the show who will be 1382 01:22:03,780 --> 01:22:07,470 there. And we also have a boots on the ground guy. And yeah, 1383 01:22:07,470 --> 01:22:10,830 that was doing some video and they'll be fun. Definitely got 1384 01:22:10,830 --> 01:22:14,760 some stuff. Thank you very much to our sole executive producer 1385 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,610 and our Associate Executive Producers actual credits, you 1386 01:22:17,610 --> 01:22:19,950 can use them anywhere. They're very effective if you use them 1387 01:22:19,950 --> 01:22:22,140 on your LinkedIn page, because you look like an executive 1388 01:22:22,140 --> 01:22:25,830 producer, which you are. And we'll be thinking more people 1389 01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:29,220 who came in with $50 or above later on the program. And 1390 01:22:29,220 --> 01:22:31,140 remember, we got another show coming up on Sunday, where of 1391 01:22:31,140 --> 01:22:33,270 course, we will deconstruct everything that went on in 1392 01:22:33,270 --> 01:22:38,460 Friday. Remember us at vora.org/n A And while you're 1393 01:22:38,460 --> 01:22:41,520 down there in DC, why don't you go get the formula? 1394 01:22:42,510 --> 01:23:00,450 Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Now 1395 01:23:00,450 --> 01:23:00,900 ready? 1396 01:23:01,860 --> 01:23:06,300 I have a little aside here. You know there's one show that 1397 01:23:06,300 --> 01:23:10,830 people cite a lot. And it is and it's kind of competitive with 1398 01:23:10,830 --> 01:23:14,580 our show. Although it doesn't. It's not really Oh, I can't wait 1399 01:23:14,580 --> 01:23:18,330 to hear this. Well, you've heard the show us call on the media. 1400 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,920 Oh, it's not at all. Not at all like our show. 1401 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,530 No, it's not at all like our show. But people like to compare 1402 01:23:25,530 --> 01:23:28,590 it to our show because they do media get deconstruction and 1403 01:23:28,590 --> 01:23:32,550 sometimes they do it well. But I always felt it was like 1404 01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:36,180 everything else that you run into on NPR. It was in some way 1405 01:23:36,180 --> 01:23:41,280 or other slanted. And it was just another couple of liberals 1406 01:23:42,030 --> 01:23:44,940 going on and on about stuff that the way they see it not 1407 01:23:44,940 --> 01:23:47,940 completely in the other dimension. But I may take that 1408 01:23:47,940 --> 01:23:50,430 back. They may be in the other dimension that you always talk 1409 01:23:50,430 --> 01:23:54,540 about. When you hear one of the two hosts. In this particular 1410 01:23:54,540 --> 01:23:58,380 clip, which is the on the media depressed do declares on the 1411 01:23:58,380 --> 01:24:00,240 media. I'm Brooke Gladstone hype and 1412 01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,660 I'm Bob Garfield, in our editorial meeting this week, 1413 01:24:03,690 --> 01:24:06,360 even through the speakerphone connecting me with the team in 1414 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:12,840 New York. The staff detected in my voice a slight suicidal 1415 01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:18,870 despondent. Why so glum chum? They wanted to know and I said 1416 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:25,050 it's just that we're also it's hard to drag my sorry self out 1417 01:24:25,050 --> 01:24:30,270 of bed in the morning. This is when producer Alana Casanova 1418 01:24:30,270 --> 01:24:35,220 Burgess chimed in. Bob Have you read hope in the dark. She was 1419 01:24:35,220 --> 01:24:39,030 referring to the book of encouragement and call to action 1420 01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:43,050 by left wing activist philosopher Rebecca Solnit, who 1421 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:48,270 expresses optimism about the future based not on naivete or 1422 01:24:48,270 --> 01:24:53,220 denial. But on lessons of history. Solnit is impatient 1423 01:24:53,250 --> 01:24:57,120 with despair, not only because it paralyzes political action, 1424 01:24:57,630 --> 01:25:01,500 but because she says it is historic Clean indefensible 1425 01:25:03,659 --> 01:25:07,409 historically indefensible, well, this whatever she says he's that 1426 01:25:07,409 --> 01:25:08,969 Nazi reference or what is 1427 01:25:08,999 --> 01:25:12,899 I don't know No, I don't think so. But this guy then does an 1428 01:25:12,899 --> 01:25:16,079 interview with her and they talk back and forth and he asked just 1429 01:25:16,109 --> 01:25:19,469 to earnestly to have a read from the beginning of first chapter, 1430 01:25:19,499 --> 01:25:20,399 who was she again, 1431 01:25:21,119 --> 01:25:24,209 she's a she's actually a local around here, she's, I think, in 1432 01:25:24,209 --> 01:25:27,659 San Francisco, Berkeley. She's a writer, you should look her up. 1433 01:25:28,859 --> 01:25:33,179 First of all, Solnit Sol ne t, just look at her. She is a 1434 01:25:33,209 --> 01:25:37,409 unreconstructed hippie. She's about 70. She looks like a 1435 01:25:37,409 --> 01:25:41,699 depressive. And so but she's really uplifting in this book. 1436 01:25:42,029 --> 01:25:46,889 And so they have a read from it. And I want you to hear her in 1437 01:25:46,889 --> 01:25:51,269 the second clip, because this is a person that is, I think, 1438 01:25:51,269 --> 01:25:54,479 definitely in a different dimension. Because if anybody 1439 01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,389 thinks that this is a her, she's reading from the book in her 1440 01:25:57,389 --> 01:26:01,379 uplifting way, much like if you went to a speech where some guy 1441 01:26:01,379 --> 01:26:04,079 was just getting you all riled up, and it was, you know, he 1442 01:26:04,079 --> 01:26:06,719 went out to sell some product or, you know, on behalf of the 1443 01:26:06,719 --> 01:26:10,769 company, and he or she goes, tell me how good you feel after 1444 01:26:10,769 --> 01:26:11,639 listening to this. 1445 01:26:11,670 --> 01:26:15,030 And there's mutual wailing about how bad everything was a 1446 01:26:15,030 --> 01:26:18,420 recitation of the evidence against us. One exciting 1447 01:26:18,420 --> 01:26:21,930 opportunity the left offers us as of being your own prosecutor 1448 01:26:22,890 --> 01:26:25,950 that just buried any hope and imagination down in a dank 1449 01:26:25,950 --> 01:26:29,850 little foxhole of curled up despair. Now I watch people 1450 01:26:29,850 --> 01:26:33,510 having it wondering what it is we get from it. The certainty of 1451 01:26:33,510 --> 01:26:36,780 despair is even that kind of certainty, so worth pursuing. 1452 01:26:37,290 --> 01:26:40,590 Stories trap us stories for years, we live and die by 1453 01:26:40,590 --> 01:26:44,190 stories, but hearing people have the conversation is hearing them 1454 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,340 tell themselves a story they believe is being told to them. 1455 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,060 What other stories can be told how do people recognize that 1456 01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:53,610 they have the power to be storytellers, not just 1457 01:26:53,610 --> 01:26:54,390 listeners. 1458 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:59,010 Oh, hold on a second. shoot myself in the head after that. 1459 01:27:00,420 --> 01:27:02,910 Here's a here's a here's a better way of of listener 1460 01:27:02,910 --> 01:27:03,240 yelling 1461 01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:07,260 about how bad everything was. A recitation of evidence against 1462 01:27:07,260 --> 01:27:09,840 this looks perfect. 1463 01:27:11,700 --> 01:27:15,600 Wow, she's she's No wonder she's depressed. Oh, my goodness. 1464 01:27:16,980 --> 01:27:21,720 Anyway, so this to me is the again, this is not an objective, 1465 01:27:22,980 --> 01:27:26,130 an objective show, and I don't see how anyone could get 1466 01:27:26,130 --> 01:27:29,220 anything positive out of it. If this is the kind of, again, it 1467 01:27:29,220 --> 01:27:31,950 sounds like you're in this other dimension, because this is not 1468 01:27:31,950 --> 01:27:35,580 an uplifting little spiel, by any means. This is Jesus's 1469 01:27:35,610 --> 01:27:36,690 pressing person. This 1470 01:27:36,690 --> 01:27:41,430 is rampant. John, this is rampant. And the other 1471 01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:44,640 dimension. I certainly don't live in that dimension, but I 1472 01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:48,510 can visit it. They are desperately hoping that 1473 01:27:48,510 --> 01:27:52,140 something happens. I think that's why the CNN MPs Oh, we 1474 01:27:52,140 --> 01:27:55,590 can't even stand losing the Obamas and the Clintons. Okay. 1475 01:27:56,190 --> 01:27:58,830 It'd be a loss, but at least Trump wouldn't be president. 1476 01:27:59,820 --> 01:28:04,020 That's what's going on here. People wishing death, and Ill 1477 01:28:04,020 --> 01:28:04,650 will 1478 01:28:05,790 --> 01:28:09,360 try. No, they want everyone dead. They themselves seem to be 1479 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:17,490 somewhat dead. Now. I can barely get out of bed. Hello, normal 1480 01:28:17,490 --> 01:28:20,940 person in this situation with this show on the media. They 1481 01:28:20,940 --> 01:28:23,280 would have said holy crap, we're going to have nothing but great 1482 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:24,090 material. 1483 01:28:24,660 --> 01:28:27,360 That's what we that's what we said, yeah. Oh, it doesn't 1484 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,520 matter who wins. We're happy to show go 1485 01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,120 on forever. But no, they're so invested in the political 1486 01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,990 system. So their whole personalities tied up in being a 1487 01:28:36,990 --> 01:28:37,530 Democrat. I 1488 01:28:37,530 --> 01:28:40,140 know. There's an interesting piece in Politico, while 1489 01:28:40,140 --> 01:28:43,140 actually in may not was that interesting, but it's being 1490 01:28:43,170 --> 01:28:47,040 passed around the face bags a lot. And the title of it is he 1491 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,880 has this deep fear that he is not a legitimate president. And 1492 01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:56,370 what politico did is they brought in 1234354 or five 1493 01:28:56,370 --> 01:29:01,560 journalists who were on the on the beat, who covered Trump, who 1494 01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:05,760 covered him in 2000. And just covering all the time, and so 1495 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:10,080 they give their opinion about him. And the headline comes from 1496 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,150 from one of these journalists who just just up and says that 1497 01:29:15,150 --> 01:29:18,270 with no with no actual find the piece here 1498 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,730 with no backup with no proof with no, 1499 01:29:24,030 --> 01:29:28,890 it's not even that. Here he is. He's always this is for the 1500 01:29:29,340 --> 01:29:33,570 Dantonio whoever that guy is Dantonio. What's his first name? 1501 01:29:34,140 --> 01:29:39,450 Anyway, Dantonio says this is a person who has never known 1502 01:29:39,450 --> 01:29:44,580 whether anybody wants to be around him. I'm gonna second 1503 01:29:46,980 --> 01:29:49,740 here it is. He has always kind of gaming the system not in my 1504 01:29:49,740 --> 01:29:52,470 view, winning on the merits and even his election was with 1505 01:29:52,470 --> 01:29:55,410 almost 3 million fewer votes than his opponents. So he has 1506 01:29:55,410 --> 01:29:57,930 this deep fear that he is himself not a legitimate 1507 01:29:57,930 --> 01:30:00,930 president. And I think that's why he goes to such great 1508 01:30:00,930 --> 01:30:04,620 lengths to D legitimize even the intelligence community. So 1509 01:30:04,620 --> 01:30:08,790 that's just conjecture. But every single journalist who and 1510 01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:12,480 I don't know if they taped audio My God would love to hear what 1511 01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:15,660 they were talking about. Every single one is bitching 1512 01:30:15,690 --> 01:30:19,110 consistently about one issue. And you know what it is? 1513 01:30:19,410 --> 01:30:25,200 Twitter. They cannot stand that he goes around them. They can't 1514 01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:30,000 stand it. That is that is the number one problem. The hate it. 1515 01:30:30,810 --> 01:30:33,840 It's not protocol. It's not tradition. 1516 01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:37,860 Yeah, well, they're the conservatives. 1517 01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:45,150 And Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone magazine who I like, I don't 1518 01:30:45,150 --> 01:30:47,310 know him personally, it seems actually seems personally seemed 1519 01:30:47,310 --> 01:30:50,220 like a douchebag. But the stuff he's written about financial 1520 01:30:50,220 --> 01:30:52,500 crimes and Rolling Stone magazine had been nothing short 1521 01:30:52,500 --> 01:30:56,340 of stellar. He's probably the only guy who really does 1522 01:30:56,340 --> 01:31:02,430 anything. So anything of that level of speaking truth to 1523 01:31:02,430 --> 01:31:05,610 power, and of course, it goes largely unnoticed because he's 1524 01:31:05,610 --> 01:31:08,640 Rolling Stone magazine who gives a crap. And then he went off to 1525 01:31:08,730 --> 01:31:13,140 the $250 million WordPress blog, and that was horrible. You 1526 01:31:13,140 --> 01:31:13,980 recall, and then he's, 1527 01:31:14,070 --> 01:31:16,230 yeah, he didn't last there. No, two weeks, I 1528 01:31:16,230 --> 01:31:19,680 think because what he lost the match. So I think it was a CBC 1529 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,590 Canadian Broadcasting who went and interviewed him in New York, 1530 01:31:22,710 --> 01:31:28,500 and it focused mainly on Putin, Trump, their connection, etc. 1531 01:31:28,530 --> 01:31:31,170 You lived and worked in Russia for a long time. What's your 1532 01:31:31,170 --> 01:31:32,790 take? Did you know that he worked in Russia? 1533 01:31:34,170 --> 01:31:37,800 I believe he was working with Russia on this on this magazine 1534 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:42,840 with Mark Ames. Who I like even better than Ty EV I think Mark 1535 01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,170 Ames is just dynamite investigative reporter and he's, 1536 01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,890 he's more. He's more neutral politically. When he in his 1537 01:31:49,890 --> 01:31:53,700 writing, then Jeb who's very much of a Democrat, you lived 1538 01:31:53,700 --> 01:31:55,200 and worked in Russia for a long time. What 1539 01:31:55,230 --> 01:31:58,830 What's your take on all of that? Is he a puppet of Putin? 1540 01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:02,580 Well, it's very hard to say. And I lived in Russia for a long 1541 01:32:02,580 --> 01:32:07,650 time. I personally remember Putin destroying government 1542 01:32:07,650 --> 01:32:11,340 officials with sex tapes. I was there. I remember watching him 1543 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:16,290 when he was the FSB chief, give an analysis of a sex tape 1544 01:32:16,290 --> 01:32:18,750 involving a character named Yuri Scara. He's 1545 01:32:18,750 --> 01:32:22,740 a little confused. I think it's FSB now but he was a KGB then. 1546 01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,170 It wasn't a chief. No, he 1547 01:32:25,170 --> 01:32:26,250 was certainly wasn't a chief. 1548 01:32:26,970 --> 01:32:29,640 They've done this over and over again in their past. And you'll 1549 01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:32,070 hear Matt Taibbi has a lot of things wrong, but he's just 1550 01:32:32,130 --> 01:32:34,620 heard, you know, just as he's regurgitating these, 1551 01:32:34,620 --> 01:32:37,650 the two of them were living in Russia as a couple of of 1552 01:32:37,650 --> 01:32:40,830 troublemakers. And they I think they got run out of the country, 1553 01:32:40,830 --> 01:32:41,220 probably 1554 01:32:41,220 --> 01:32:42,150 Oh, that would make 1555 01:32:42,150 --> 01:32:46,650 sense. So this is something they do. However, there's really no 1556 01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:52,140 concrete evidence still, that Trump is involved in any of the 1557 01:32:52,140 --> 01:32:56,220 shenanigans that have been alleged. You know, there's some 1558 01:32:56,220 --> 01:32:59,970 evidence for one side of this equation, which is about Putin's 1559 01:32:59,970 --> 01:33:02,520 meddling in the electoral process and hacking the 1560 01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,400 Democratic National Committee and there are there are experts 1561 01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:09,630 who have reasons for believing that he did that, but are better 1562 01:33:09,630 --> 01:33:13,410 good reasons. But there's really no concrete evidence that Trump 1563 01:33:13,410 --> 01:33:17,220 is in on it in any way or that he was anything other than a 1564 01:33:17,220 --> 01:33:21,750 moronic beneficiary of geopolitical whimsy. 1565 01:33:22,140 --> 01:33:24,240 I like moronic beneficiary, 1566 01:33:24,390 --> 01:33:26,520 a geopolitical whimsy, 1567 01:33:28,110 --> 01:33:33,420 beneficiary, moronic beneficiary type, he has a right though he, 1568 01:33:34,050 --> 01:33:38,100 he's a he prizes himself as an actual journalist. He says if I 1569 01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:41,100 can't prove it, I can't write about it. If I have no backup, I 1570 01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:43,740 can't write about it. And he says that has created a two tier 1571 01:33:43,740 --> 01:33:46,710 system of media. Certainly here in the United States of Gitmo 1572 01:33:46,710 --> 01:33:47,430 nation, we've 1573 01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:50,550 had this problem now for over a decade in America, which is that 1574 01:33:50,550 --> 01:33:53,910 we have two tiers of the media, we have this sort of clickbait 1575 01:33:54,510 --> 01:33:57,570 internet tear where anything goes and all kinds of material 1576 01:33:57,570 --> 01:34:00,300 circulates and it's been accelerated by the social media. 1577 01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:03,390 And then we have this upper tier what we call the legacy media 1578 01:34:03,390 --> 01:34:05,940 where theoretically we don't do things like that we check we 1579 01:34:05,940 --> 01:34:09,690 verify we don't put things that are, you know, dubious or 1580 01:34:09,690 --> 01:34:13,290 knowingly untrue. But what we're allowing them to do now is Ping 1581 01:34:13,290 --> 01:34:16,980 Pong back and forth. You know, the the legacy media reports on 1582 01:34:16,980 --> 01:34:22,290 the on the, the less legitimate media all the time. So it's an 1583 01:34:22,290 --> 01:34:25,620 end run around the old protections, and we've had a 1584 01:34:25,620 --> 01:34:27,060 breakdown. And because of that 1585 01:34:27,900 --> 01:34:32,760 he's forgetting the third tier, which is us who deconstruct the 1586 01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:33,390 mainstream. 1587 01:34:35,910 --> 01:34:39,780 Well, I think we don't really account we there's not enough of 1588 01:34:39,810 --> 01:34:44,490 us, the two of us, that took account for being a tear now, 1589 01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,950 which assumes that there's a lot of people I think, what he were 1590 01:34:46,950 --> 01:34:50,100 more like, native advertising. That's what he should be talking 1591 01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:50,640 about. Yeah, he 1592 01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,880 didn't mention that at all. But he didn't follow up on this. And 1593 01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,250 you know, if you report you're damned if you do damned if you 1594 01:34:56,250 --> 01:34:56,460 don't. 1595 01:34:56,670 --> 01:35:00,810 Well, and there's this phenomenon of fake news. Where's 1596 01:35:00,810 --> 01:35:03,480 the line between the fake news propaganda, The Real News? I 1597 01:35:03,480 --> 01:35:05,640 mean, how on earth the world is changing, 1598 01:35:05,670 --> 01:35:08,250 it's extremely difficult because it's very hard for journalists 1599 01:35:08,250 --> 01:35:11,430 to pretend that they're that, for instance, there's a news 1600 01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:14,370 story that everybody's talking about that you can't confirm. 1601 01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,550 How do you report on that? If you can't confirm the the core 1602 01:35:17,550 --> 01:35:20,790 allegation, that's in the story, but it's news everywhere, and 1603 01:35:20,790 --> 01:35:24,150 everyone's talking about it. You can't not cover it. On the other 1604 01:35:24,150 --> 01:35:27,240 hand, you can't really cover it either. So it's a it's a 1605 01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,300 difficult thing. In the old days, a story like this probably 1606 01:35:30,300 --> 01:35:32,370 would never have appeared in the network's it wouldn't have been 1607 01:35:32,370 --> 01:35:34,590 in the New York Times, it wouldn't have been in CNN. 1608 01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,960 And we've referred to how the media loves to choose our 1609 01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,620 presidents for us by highlighting some incredible 1610 01:35:43,620 --> 01:35:45,900 Gaff. Here's Toby on that 1611 01:35:45,930 --> 01:35:49,110 we've had this this tradition in our campaign journalism, going 1612 01:35:49,110 --> 01:35:52,770 back for quite a while now where when a candidate slips up, does 1613 01:35:52,770 --> 01:35:56,100 something dumb, we immediately sort of swirl around the 1614 01:35:56,100 --> 01:36:00,150 candidate and announced that that person is no longer a 1615 01:36:00,150 --> 01:36:03,810 legitimate and viable politician. Yeah, the media, we 1616 01:36:03,810 --> 01:36:06,660 in the media, we do that we do that to people like our dean. 1617 01:36:08,010 --> 01:36:11,370 Gary Hart was another senator had an affair 1618 01:36:11,370 --> 01:36:15,180 of that one. And isn't it crazy that how long ago was that? 1619 01:36:16,230 --> 01:36:19,530 That was in that was four years before? 1620 01:36:20,129 --> 01:36:23,279 Before Obama, so that was 2004. 1621 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:27,480 I think it was 2001. could be it could be 1622 01:36:27,780 --> 01:36:32,610 gore. Yeah. And one one screen that noise disqualified the guy? 1623 01:36:33,330 --> 01:36:38,070 Well, kinda what it did is it nothing disqualifies the guy as 1624 01:36:38,070 --> 01:36:41,850 Trump has proven. But what it did to me because I remember 1625 01:36:41,850 --> 01:36:46,830 this guy very, very well. For one thing, he was tucked up he 1626 01:36:46,830 --> 01:36:48,900 was on the cover of all the magazines. He was going to be 1627 01:36:48,900 --> 01:36:51,930 the next president. It was a done deal. Right. And he 1628 01:36:52,590 --> 01:36:54,990 he got honey potted man with Donna rice. 1629 01:36:57,150 --> 01:36:59,010 It talking about hard. I'm talking about 1630 01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,920 the screw. Oh, and I'm sorry. Yes, Dean. 1631 01:37:03,270 --> 01:37:09,540 So this guy was Dean. So he was getting a lot of this is all Joe 1632 01:37:09,540 --> 01:37:13,080 Trippi by the way. Who was the I remember, the guy who was 1633 01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:17,760 running this this campaign. He was a shoo in. And it actually 1634 01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,810 had to me i i think he was killed before he did that stupid 1635 01:37:21,810 --> 01:37:24,510 scream because he's starting to let it go. Because there were 1636 01:37:24,510 --> 01:37:27,090 Whitey lose this election that he do that screen because he 1637 01:37:27,090 --> 01:37:29,700 lost some primary a big one. And he's gonna win all these other 1638 01:37:29,700 --> 01:37:33,240 states and he screams. It was when he finally showed up 1639 01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:37,320 because he was discussed on the print media constantly. And then 1640 01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:40,680 he shows up and I believe is on the Carson Show or lannoy. I 1641 01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,890 can't remember who was running it at the time. But he comes out 1642 01:37:43,890 --> 01:37:48,540 on one of these mid late night talk shows. And he comes out 1643 01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:54,600 kind of hunched over and he has this red tie on that I swear to 1644 01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:58,020 God, at least the way I remember. It was down to his 1645 01:37:58,020 --> 01:37:58,800 knees 1646 01:37:59,250 --> 01:38:02,880 to tie too long. Bad luck. Trump does that too. He has his ties 1647 01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:03,420 are too long. 1648 01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:06,600 Well, he anyway comes out with a stupid tie. Then he kind of he's 1649 01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,570 being interviewed. He's a goofball. Now, he's an obvious 1650 01:38:09,570 --> 01:38:12,630 goofball. This guy's not going to be president. He was already 1651 01:38:12,630 --> 01:38:15,930 handed down to me for the screen was just the closer that was the 1652 01:38:15,930 --> 01:38:18,780 and I was like, I got it. But that's not the reason I can 1653 01:38:18,780 --> 01:38:19,230 assure you. 1654 01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:22,800 Then we get a little insight on wrapping it up here a little 1655 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:28,500 insight into the press corps traveling with the president and 1656 01:38:28,500 --> 01:38:30,780 where he was in the pecking order. 1657 01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,410 You compare the media to the mean girls that have there? 1658 01:38:35,130 --> 01:38:39,600 Yeah, really? Yeah. I mean, I've been on the campaign plane and 1659 01:38:40,050 --> 01:38:42,540 I've been one of the unpopular kids has been banished to the 1660 01:38:42,540 --> 01:38:46,440 back of the plane to sit with the techies. You know, there are 1661 01:38:46,500 --> 01:38:50,760 there are documentarian I know who were filming the other 1662 01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,760 reporters in the plane who became unpopular with the other 1663 01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:57,960 reporters, because that was theoretically off limits. You 1664 01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,300 weren't supposed to write about what went on inside the bubble. 1665 01:39:00,330 --> 01:39:03,690 And so they got to be got to sit in the back with me as well. 1666 01:39:04,110 --> 01:39:06,330 Because you have been very critical by the way, the way he 1667 01:39:06,330 --> 01:39:09,090 just glosses over that says I sitting back with the techies, 1668 01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:13,200 how rude is that? The techies keep the plane in the air, the 1669 01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:16,500 techies, the dudes named Ben dudettes named Ben, 1670 01:39:16,830 --> 01:39:19,380 though I know but they there are disrespected and thrown in the 1671 01:39:19,380 --> 01:39:20,430 back. Oh, totally 1672 01:39:20,430 --> 01:39:23,250 disrespected. very bad, very bad. And he just called this 1673 01:39:23,250 --> 01:39:25,410 normal because that's where techies belong a hole 1674 01:39:25,650 --> 01:39:28,140 in the back with me as well. Because you have been very 1675 01:39:28,140 --> 01:39:30,480 critical. I have yeah, I've written about the media have 1676 01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:32,730 written about how we cover stories about everything. You 1677 01:39:32,730 --> 01:39:35,640 sit there in bed, basically with corrupt politician. 1678 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:39,180 Yeah. And then also that there's this, there's this corrupting 1679 01:39:39,180 --> 01:39:41,550 relationship that happens. It's almost like a kind of Stockholm 1680 01:39:41,550 --> 01:39:45,060 Syndrome on the campaign trail where you're with the same 1681 01:39:45,060 --> 01:39:47,910 people over and over again, week after week, month after month. 1682 01:39:48,270 --> 01:39:52,650 And you start to sympathize with the people on the campaign. And 1683 01:39:52,740 --> 01:39:55,560 I think that's what's happened over the years and then 1684 01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:58,380 reporters and politicians have adopted each other's point of 1685 01:39:58,380 --> 01:40:02,010 view, and they've lost much with how ordinary people think and 1686 01:40:02,010 --> 01:40:05,460 they don't talk to people out there as much Trump capitalized 1687 01:40:05,460 --> 01:40:10,320 on that he sensed that he made us in the media villains. 1688 01:40:11,550 --> 01:40:16,080 Representatives of this out of touch ivory tower political 1689 01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:17,700 culture. Yeah, 1690 01:40:17,820 --> 01:40:23,460 it was an easy target. Getting Yeah, but I like Toby has self 1691 01:40:23,460 --> 01:40:26,820 awareness final clip about the sanctimoniously smug, there's 1692 01:40:26,820 --> 01:40:31,620 a lot of resentment out there toward these sort of snide urban 1693 01:40:33,660 --> 01:40:38,310 especially Eastern West Coast liberal types who people in what 1694 01:40:38,310 --> 01:40:42,960 we call flyover America, they view us as snobs who are looking 1695 01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,170 down on regular people. Yeah, we're always trying to tell them 1696 01:40:46,170 --> 01:40:48,810 how to run their lives, even though we can't change an oil 1697 01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:52,560 filter by ourselves. There's a lot of resentment towards 1698 01:40:52,590 --> 01:40:56,070 difference, that kind of person and this is a it's a class 1699 01:40:56,070 --> 01:41:00,870 division that we've always had a difficult time talking about in 1700 01:41:00,870 --> 01:41:04,830 this country. We just don't do class very well. And so that's 1701 01:41:04,830 --> 01:41:08,670 one of the reasons why this Trump phenomenon kind of crept 1702 01:41:08,670 --> 01:41:12,420 up on everybody. It's because this, these divisions are things 1703 01:41:12,420 --> 01:41:15,420 that we don't normally pay a lot of attention to sanctimonious 1704 01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:24,870 sanctimoniously small sanctimonious sayings sanctifies 1705 01:41:24,870 --> 01:41:25,410 Yes. 1706 01:41:25,410 --> 01:41:29,100 And John Oliver returns Sunday speaking smug. 1707 01:41:29,250 --> 01:41:33,480 I will mention that anyone who is a regular no agenda listener 1708 01:41:33,900 --> 01:41:37,170 never had the problem of things like that creeping up on you 1709 01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:38,640 know, bully were whatever. 1710 01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:45,780 No, no, of course not. Yeah. Just to switch it up. And I do 1711 01:41:45,780 --> 01:41:47,220 have some thought before 1712 01:41:47,220 --> 01:41:50,070 you do that. Yep. I do want to throw one little thing in a 1713 01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:52,410 little clip this in middle of not switching anything I've just 1714 01:41:52,410 --> 01:41:54,990 said loan clip. This was from that same on the media show. 1715 01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:01,920 Another example of the changing the way. Well, I'm telling you 1716 01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,920 just play this. It's this. bonus clip, 1717 01:42:05,010 --> 01:42:07,890 in many ways is very frightening, but at the same 1718 01:42:07,890 --> 01:42:11,760 time means that the future is yet unwritten and it's up to the 1719 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:16,320 media to help write it. unwritten, unwritten, unwritten 1720 01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:16,740 disguise 1721 01:42:16,740 --> 01:42:21,600 the editor of Think Progress Putin, Putin Putin already 1722 01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:22,080 written, 1723 01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:26,070 but he's doing it wrong and should be pronouncing the teeth 1724 01:42:26,070 --> 01:42:28,560 written. That's that's the one. That's the other one we've 1725 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,360 discussed with the Cree. I know that's what the cool kids are 1726 01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:33,510 doing is pronounced written from pronouncing over pronouncing, 1727 01:42:33,540 --> 01:42:33,900 yes. 1728 01:42:33,930 --> 01:42:35,370 Well, he's not a cool kid. Obviously. He 1729 01:42:35,370 --> 01:42:41,490 just got a couple clips from Davao the Davao drinking club. 1730 01:42:41,490 --> 01:42:48,330 Oh, yes. i And I love me some Davo drinking club. One of our 1731 01:42:48,330 --> 01:42:51,870 dude named Yes, dude. Name. Ben was kind of a dude named Ben 1732 01:42:51,870 --> 01:43:00,330 homie. See, where is he sent me an email. And okay, I'll look 1733 01:43:00,330 --> 01:43:02,520 that up. I'll play the first clip. Yeah, he's actually doing 1734 01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:07,860 sound. A couple of the events there. And yeah, he did. He did 1735 01:43:07,860 --> 01:43:12,780 sound for the George Clooney breakfast. And he says, I'm a 1736 01:43:12,780 --> 01:43:17,610 mom, who by the way, a mall was at least WikiLeaks lawyer. I 1737 01:43:17,610 --> 01:43:21,540 don't know why we don't harass her. Remember when they got 1738 01:43:21,540 --> 01:43:23,880 married, that she was working? She was a Julian Assange, his 1739 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,700 lawyer. Remember that? Yeah. Little problem that brought it 1740 01:43:26,700 --> 01:43:30,240 up and then ever brought a little little problem there. 1741 01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:34,320 George? She said, she weighs about she can't weigh more than 1742 01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:38,460 98 pounds. And apparently she's pregnant. To skip skin over. 1743 01:43:39,660 --> 01:43:43,320 Skin over about Yeah. Yeah. Like we always thought she looked 1744 01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:48,210 unhealthy. Anyway, a couple of clips. The first one nice little 1745 01:43:48,210 --> 01:43:50,790 truth wants to come out from John Kerry here. 1746 01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:52,680 There a lot of people here, 1747 01:43:52,710 --> 01:43:55,890 Mr. Secretary, myself included, who are walking around with a 1748 01:43:55,890 --> 01:43:58,260 pit in their stomach of fear that so many of the things you 1749 01:43:58,260 --> 01:44:02,010 just articulated and achieved could be reversed 1750 01:44:02,340 --> 01:44:02,970 in a week. 1751 01:44:03,180 --> 01:44:07,410 I don't believe there will be. I just don't believe that. I mean, 1752 01:44:07,410 --> 01:44:10,740 take around, for instance, if the United States were to decide 1753 01:44:10,740 --> 01:44:13,590 suddenly and say, Hey, we're not going to pursue this and so 1754 01:44:13,590 --> 01:44:16,770 forth. I'll bet you I haven't talked to all of them. But I'll 1755 01:44:16,770 --> 01:44:20,790 bet you that our friends and allies who negotiated this with 1756 01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:24,480 us will get together and that Russia, China, Germany, France, 1757 01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:26,640 and Britain will say you know what, this is good deal. We're 1758 01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,130 gonna keep it and Iran and the rest of it and they will keep 1759 01:44:29,130 --> 01:44:31,530 that and we'll have made ourselves the odd person that 1760 01:44:31,530 --> 01:44:35,280 will have injured our own credibility in conceivably 1761 01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:39,000 irreparable way. And it will hurt for the endurance of, you 1762 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:40,560 know, a year, two years, whatever, while the 1763 01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:44,430 administration is there, but it's unnecessary, because 1764 01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,800 so he says it will last during the year or two years that the 1765 01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:54,000 administration is there. Well, I think he's talking about Iran. 1766 01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,300 No, he's talking about the Trump administration. He 1767 01:44:57,300 --> 01:44:59,010 actually think he's talking about Iran. 1768 01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,070 He clarifies it, listen to the whole clip. 1769 01:45:02,370 --> 01:45:05,850 Probably irreparable way and it will hurt for the endurance of, 1770 01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,010 you know, a year two years whatever while the 1771 01:45:08,010 --> 01:45:14,940 administration is there, but it's unnecessary because what? 1772 01:45:15,180 --> 01:45:22,560 These people these people have dirty minds. I told you I was 1773 01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:22,830 gonna be 1774 01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,880 cleared up. Yeah, I'm going to be active. He's going to try and 1775 01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,460 get Trump out in two years. This is part of the I'm telling you 1776 01:45:32,460 --> 01:45:33,360 this is part of the 1777 01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:37,320 denying that that's underway. Okay. But I bet you there's a 1778 01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:39,510 regime change plan that's evolving 1779 01:45:39,510 --> 01:45:44,490 and no doubt about it. Final speech from good old Joe Biden 1780 01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:52,920 at at Davao and yes, Joe is slurring. 1781 01:45:53,190 --> 01:45:56,970 But the greatest threat on this front springs from the distinct 1782 01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:02,160 of liberal and external actors who equate their success with 1783 01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:05,610 fracturing liberal international order. We see the Asian and 1784 01:46:05,610 --> 01:46:06,300 Middle East. 1785 01:46:06,540 --> 01:46:10,050 I like that the liberal would you say Liberal National order. 1786 01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:12,060 Lead played again. 1787 01:46:13,290 --> 01:46:14,130 National order 1788 01:46:14,250 --> 01:46:15,960 shoot back more Joe 1789 01:46:17,790 --> 01:46:20,820 will equate their success with fracturing liberal international 1790 01:46:20,820 --> 01:46:21,270 order 1791 01:46:21,300 --> 01:46:23,880 liberal international order. I've never heard this one. 1792 01:46:25,860 --> 01:46:28,890 We see an Asian and Middle East where China and Iran would 1793 01:46:28,890 --> 01:46:32,340 clearly prefer a world in which they their sway. They have 1794 01:46:32,340 --> 01:46:35,340 overwhelming sway in the regions. And I'm not mince 1795 01:46:35,340 --> 01:46:39,990 words. This movement is principally led by Russia. 1796 01:46:41,070 --> 01:46:44,130 President Putin, Russia is working with every tool 1797 01:46:44,130 --> 01:46:49,800 available away at the edges of the European project, test the 1798 01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:52,620 fault lines among Western nations and returned to a 1799 01:46:52,620 --> 01:46:56,670 politics defined by spheres of influence. We see their 1800 01:46:56,670 --> 01:46:58,950 aggression against their neighbors sending in so called 1801 01:46:58,950 --> 01:47:04,050 little green man across borders to stir violence and stir and 1802 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:09,450 stirs of he's drunk on separatism in Ukraine, using 1803 01:47:09,450 --> 01:47:13,680 energy as a weapon, cutting off gas supplies midwinter, no 1804 01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:17,280 because they didn't pay the bill Joe raising prices to manipulate 1805 01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,700 nations to act in Russia's interest, using corruption to 1806 01:47:20,700 --> 01:47:24,660 empower oligarchs to coerce politicians. We see in their 1807 01:47:24,660 --> 01:47:27,780 worldwide use of propaganda and false information campaign fake 1808 01:47:27,780 --> 01:47:30,750 news, injecting doubt and political agitation and 1809 01:47:30,750 --> 01:47:34,380 democratic system strengthening illiberal factions and forces 1810 01:47:34,770 --> 01:47:38,940 both left and right to seek out its learn and roll back the 1811 01:47:38,940 --> 01:47:43,980 decades of progress from within our systems. We even saw it in 1812 01:47:43,980 --> 01:47:46,590 this cyber intrusions against political parties and 1813 01:47:46,590 --> 01:47:49,410 individuals, the United States of America. What's our 1814 01:47:49,410 --> 01:47:52,290 intelligence community all 17 have determined with high 1815 01:47:52,290 --> 01:47:56,730 confidence I've been doing present for 46 years, they 1816 01:47:56,730 --> 01:47:58,770 seldom use the phrase high confidence. 1817 01:47:58,770 --> 01:48:02,040 Yeah, because they never used the phrase high confidence, 1818 01:48:02,070 --> 01:48:05,520 except the last time was if aluminum tubes, weapons of mass 1819 01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:06,060 destruction 1820 01:48:06,540 --> 01:48:10,230 states in America, what's our intelligence community all 17 1821 01:48:10,230 --> 01:48:12,660 have determined with high confidence. I've been doing this 1822 01:48:12,660 --> 01:48:15,750 for 46 years. They seldom use the phrase high confidence. 1823 01:48:15,780 --> 01:48:16,080 Yeah, they 1824 01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,330 only use it when they have no proof that they were 1825 01:48:18,330 --> 01:48:19,140 specifically 1826 01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:23,580 to influence the elections. But it's not only the United States, 1827 01:48:23,580 --> 01:48:27,630 I need not tell you that has been targeted. You're seeing the 1828 01:48:27,630 --> 01:48:30,150 same kind of attacks in the past. Oh, there you go. With 1829 01:48:30,150 --> 01:48:33,870 many countries in Europe slated to hold elections this year. We 1830 01:48:33,870 --> 01:48:36,690 should expect further attempts by Russia to meddle in the 1831 01:48:36,690 --> 01:48:40,260 democratic process, it will occur again I promise you and 1832 01:48:40,530 --> 01:48:44,070 the purpose is clear. To collapse the liberal 1833 01:48:44,070 --> 01:48:47,130 international order there it is simply put, Mr. Putin has a 1834 01:48:47,130 --> 01:48:51,810 different vision of the future. One in which Russia is is 1835 01:48:51,810 --> 01:48:55,980 pursuing across the board. It seeks to return to a world where 1836 01:48:55,980 --> 01:48:58,920 the stolen poles as well through military might corruption and 1837 01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:03,300 criminality while weaker nations have to fall in line Hmm 1838 01:49:05,070 --> 01:49:07,440 Well, this brings me to a series of clips 1839 01:49:07,470 --> 01:49:08,520 first we got to play this 1840 01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:14,100 blue and you don't know why others think news. Why don't you 1841 01:49:14,100 --> 01:49:14,910 get job get? 1842 01:49:16,890 --> 01:49:20,280 boots on the ribs. All right, bum, bum, bum bum. 1843 01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:27,240 So there's this there's a series of news reports that are going 1844 01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:32,670 like everyone's doing about Trump and NATO. Yeah, NATO is a 1845 01:49:32,670 --> 01:49:35,370 sacred cow. And what they're trying to do is they're showing 1846 01:49:35,370 --> 01:49:40,290 that Mattis who Mad Dog Mad Mad Dog Mattis, who by the way, has 1847 01:49:40,290 --> 01:49:43,020 got his Titon a ringer over being a board member at 1848 01:49:43,020 --> 01:49:44,100 Serrano's. 1849 01:49:44,610 --> 01:49:49,530 Oh, the fake blood analysis company bled out system which 1850 01:49:49,530 --> 01:49:53,280 had well said but what's his face? Colin Powell also on the 1851 01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:56,430 board of that, yeah, there's a couple of Kissinger Kissinger Of 1852 01:49:56,430 --> 01:50:01,500 course. Yeah. Yeah. Sakas if Find the Kleiner Perkins 1853 01:50:01,530 --> 01:50:02,250 investment. 1854 01:50:02,730 --> 01:50:09,840 Well, they kind of ditched it and now it's all Draper Fisher. 1855 01:50:09,870 --> 01:50:14,970 That's unload. And Tim Draper and I made a comment on the 1856 01:50:14,970 --> 01:50:17,280 Twitter's about this and he just seems to have a crush on this 1857 01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:23,040 girl seems to me. I don't know. I know, Tim. Possible. So let's 1858 01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,410 start with his trump NATO thing because there's a lot of 1859 01:50:25,410 --> 01:50:27,720 interesting little deconstruction, little tidbits. 1860 01:50:28,350 --> 01:50:32,070 Trump. Trump is kind of really not saying much about NATO 1861 01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:35,610 anymore. And Mattis as well, I don't understand. And is there's 1862 01:50:36,060 --> 01:50:39,090 a bunch of in this report, I believe there's one PBS I can 1863 01:50:39,090 --> 01:50:43,470 figure it out when we start playing it. It's it's kind of a 1864 01:50:43,470 --> 01:50:48,510 maybe NBC. It's kind of a hit piece on Trump. But it's like a 1865 01:50:48,510 --> 01:50:52,440 support of NATO, which, you know, he says is well placed 1866 01:50:52,440 --> 01:50:53,730 play one and well, hundreds 1867 01:50:53,730 --> 01:50:58,050 of NATO troops died alongside Americans in Afghanistan. Mr. 1868 01:50:58,050 --> 01:51:00,810 Trump had made similar statements during the campaign. 1869 01:51:00,810 --> 01:51:04,320 But this latest BB came just days after his nominee for 1870 01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,800 defense secretary offered a starkly different opinion, 1871 01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:11,580 NATO. From my perspective, having served one to the NATO 1872 01:51:11,580 --> 01:51:16,230 Supreme Allied Commander is the most successful military 1873 01:51:16,230 --> 01:51:19,050 alliance probably in modern world history. Maybe ever. 1874 01:51:19,440 --> 01:51:22,590 The Kremlin agreed with the Trump assessment and said NATO's 1875 01:51:22,590 --> 01:51:26,580 main goal is confrontation. But it said little about the 1876 01:51:26,580 --> 01:51:30,030 President Elect suggestion that he might drop US sanctions on 1877 01:51:30,030 --> 01:51:34,770 Russia in exchange for nuclear arms reductions. Mr. Trump also 1878 01:51:34,770 --> 01:51:37,980 said he's indifferent about the European Union's future in the 1879 01:51:37,980 --> 01:51:41,940 wake of Britain's vote to leave it. Personally, I don't think it 1880 01:51:41,940 --> 01:51:45,570 matters much for the United States. Look, the EU was formed 1881 01:51:45,570 --> 01:51:48,960 partially to beat the United States on trade. So I don't 1882 01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,020 really care whether it's separate or together. The 1883 01:51:52,020 --> 01:51:55,260 President Elect had special criticism for German Chancellor 1884 01:51:55,260 --> 01:51:59,430 Angela Merkel. He said she had made a catastrophic mistake and 1885 01:51:59,430 --> 01:52:03,270 taking in 1000s of migrants and refugees. And he said he'll 1886 01:52:03,270 --> 01:52:07,050 start off trusting Merkel and Russian President Vladimir Putin 1887 01:52:07,050 --> 01:52:11,520 equally, but said that may not last, the chancellor answered 1888 01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:13,470 today in Berlin as a thinker. 1889 01:52:14,970 --> 01:52:18,420 I think for us, Europeans, we have our fate in our own hands. 1890 01:52:18,450 --> 01:52:21,720 The President Elect made his points again, once he is in 1891 01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:24,930 office, which he is not at this moment. We will of course, work 1892 01:52:24,930 --> 01:52:27,600 together with the American government. And then we will see 1893 01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,420 what sort of cooperation we can achieve. Everybody's 1894 01:52:30,449 --> 01:52:34,409 outgoing Secretary of State John Kerry went further in a CNN 1895 01:52:34,409 --> 01:52:34,979 interview. 1896 01:52:35,190 --> 01:52:38,760 Well, I thought, frankly, it was inappropriate for a president 1897 01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:41,820 elected the United States to be stepping into the politics of 1898 01:52:41,820 --> 01:52:42,990 other countries in a quite 1899 01:52:43,949 --> 01:52:47,729 Oh my gosh. So let's review for a moment. What I recall Trump 1900 01:52:47,729 --> 01:52:51,839 saying is, hey, NATO is outdated. People don't pay their 1901 01:52:51,839 --> 01:52:57,749 fair share. That doesn't really do anything good. And I think 1902 01:52:57,929 --> 01:53:00,719 arguably, that's right, certainly the paying part. 1903 01:53:02,220 --> 01:53:05,640 And the good part may be questionable, too. And as you 1904 01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:07,680 hear that further clips where they try to sit where they try 1905 01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:11,490 to rationalize what NATO has been doing all these years, you 1906 01:53:11,490 --> 01:53:13,680 find there's really nothing in fact, well, it's 1907 01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:17,310 it's a resource extraction unit for the big oil companies. 1908 01:53:17,310 --> 01:53:20,910 That's what happened in Libya. And mainly the French fighters 1909 01:53:20,910 --> 01:53:24,690 that the French fighter planes were dropping huge bombs we were 1910 01:53:24,810 --> 01:53:29,490 we remember we were refueling when we refueling and arming or 1911 01:53:29,490 --> 01:53:31,530 something but we weren't actually dropping bombs. 1912 01:53:31,980 --> 01:53:34,950 Yeah, something like that is clearly also the thing Trump 1913 01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:38,070 said they had a quote Dennis screen Quizzing. I don't care 1914 01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:41,130 what happens to the EU because they were formed to be our 1915 01:53:41,130 --> 01:53:41,970 competitor, which 1916 01:53:41,970 --> 01:53:45,210 is true they want it to be yes, yeah. Bigger than it wants to 1917 01:53:45,210 --> 01:53:48,900 say that have their own money. Which is, which is the most 1918 01:53:48,900 --> 01:53:51,120 important part is having your own money. Yeah, I told you 1919 01:53:51,150 --> 01:53:55,440 the euro and they tried to make into Euro oil in euros, which we 1920 01:53:55,440 --> 01:54:00,390 don't like it. But that little thing there. This defensive NATO 1921 01:54:00,390 --> 01:54:02,430 has me a little bit baffled. And maybe you're gonna help me out 1922 01:54:02,430 --> 01:54:05,280 after we hear a couple more of these clips. Here's the one this 1923 01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:07,380 is the Trumpers NATO number two, 1924 01:54:07,499 --> 01:54:10,769 we get reaction to Mr. Trump's comments from two people with 1925 01:54:10,769 --> 01:54:14,609 extensive experience managing Europe, European relations. 1926 01:54:14,909 --> 01:54:17,849 NICHOLAS BURNS was a career diplomat. He was ambassador to 1927 01:54:17,849 --> 01:54:20,759 NATO during the Obama administration. He's now at 1928 01:54:20,759 --> 01:54:24,659 Harvard University and he joins us tonight from London. Mr. 1929 01:54:24,659 --> 01:54:27,689 Bird, please start with you. former ambassador to NATO. 1930 01:54:28,409 --> 01:54:32,039 Donald Trump says that NATO is obsolete because it doesn't take 1931 01:54:32,039 --> 01:54:35,189 on tear unfair to the United States. What's your take? 1932 01:54:35,430 --> 01:54:36,660 He's completely wrong about 1933 01:54:36,660 --> 01:54:39,300 that. I was ambassador to NATO for President George W. Bush 1934 01:54:39,300 --> 01:54:44,070 actually on 911. And on 911 When we were attacked from al Qaeda 1935 01:54:44,070 --> 01:54:47,280 in Afghanistan, the NATO allies came to us in Brussels, they 1936 01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,890 said they wanted to invoke Article Five of the NATO Treaty 1937 01:54:50,070 --> 01:54:53,460 and attack on one of us is an attack on all of us. They came 1938 01:54:53,460 --> 01:54:57,270 to our defense big time. They all went to Afghanistan. They 1939 01:54:57,270 --> 01:55:01,860 bled, died and were wounded for us. In Afghanistan, they're all 1940 01:55:01,860 --> 01:55:04,890 still fighting in Afghanistan, we fought the terrorism. I've 1941 01:55:04,890 --> 01:55:07,560 done many years that ban of terrorism of the Taliban and 1942 01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:10,950 other terrorist groups in Afghanistan. So Trump is Donald 1943 01:55:10,950 --> 01:55:13,470 Trump is exactly wrong. I can tell you having been in London 1944 01:55:13,470 --> 01:55:17,070 today, people here are just flabbergasted by this interview, 1945 01:55:17,250 --> 01:55:20,430 and The Times of London, to basic to denigrate NATO is 1946 01:55:20,430 --> 01:55:24,630 obsolete to root openly for the weakening of the European Union, 1947 01:55:24,750 --> 01:55:29,370 to castigate Angular Merkel, our strongest friend in Europe. We 1948 01:55:29,370 --> 01:55:32,910 have not seen an American president be so openly critical 1949 01:55:32,910 --> 01:55:37,830 of our allies in 70 years, and yet he doesn't criticize our 1950 01:55:37,830 --> 01:55:41,790 adversary, Vladimir Putin. Yes, of course. 1951 01:55:43,590 --> 01:55:44,820 I found it's not 1952 01:55:44,820 --> 01:55:48,420 tradition. It's not protocol, our special relationship. 1953 01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:53,820 This guy NICHOLAS BURNS, you can look him up. Spoke yet well, he 1954 01:55:53,820 --> 01:55:57,000 doesn't like a spook but young spook because he hasn't got the 1955 01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:58,920 old white hair yet. But, 1956 01:55:59,430 --> 01:56:01,890 and again, Putin adversary he should have he could have 1957 01:56:01,890 --> 01:56:07,200 mentioned the first as I recall, the first leader of any state to 1958 01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:13,860 offer condolences and any help, I believe was, was Russia. Yeah. 1959 01:56:14,130 --> 01:56:16,890 And it may have been Putin. I don't know if it's, if you're 1960 01:56:16,890 --> 01:56:20,400 deaf, and med med mimetic, they were the first ones Hey, dudes, 1961 01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:21,840 anything you need, we're here. 1962 01:56:23,460 --> 01:56:25,980 And they have because they have experience they've had they 1963 01:56:25,980 --> 01:56:28,410 know a lot about terrorism. Yeah, Chechnya, all that stuff. 1964 01:56:28,410 --> 01:56:30,870 Sure. They got tons of experience. And I just want to 1965 01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:36,990 say one thing about NATO. Colin Grodd? Is it Colin Grodd? Colin 1966 01:56:36,990 --> 01:56:44,400 Grodd? I think Colin Grodd, if you look at the map is very 1967 01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:47,790 similar to Crimea. It is it belongs to Russia. It's a 1968 01:56:47,820 --> 01:56:53,070 province. It is right above Poland. I guarantee you, we're 1969 01:56:53,070 --> 01:56:56,220 going to see some crap there. Because we're getting close to 1970 01:56:56,220 --> 01:57:01,110 the border there with our tanks are was at 4000 troops. First, 1971 01:57:01,350 --> 01:57:05,550 first 4000. Lord knows. And they're going to be building up 1972 01:57:05,550 --> 01:57:09,360 down the border, which is a Russian province. And you're 1973 01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:13,620 going to see a similar issue as with Ukraine, and common Grodd. 1974 01:57:13,620 --> 01:57:17,790 Also a very interesting country, for pipelines for passing 1975 01:57:17,790 --> 01:57:18,600 pipelines through 1976 01:57:19,290 --> 01:57:21,090 Well, we got to get those stopped, those Russians have 1977 01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:25,470 given people oil, I'm just gonna happen. There was a couple of 1978 01:57:25,470 --> 01:57:28,230 things in here that I thought were kind of brought to mind 1979 01:57:28,230 --> 01:57:32,760 anyway, why? What's the deal? Why are we in for warranty? 1980 01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:35,610 We're pushing NATO toward Russia. So it is a hostile 1981 01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:40,290 group. But I think that if they would be honest with the 1982 01:57:40,290 --> 01:57:42,930 American public and say, one of the reasons for NATO, and I 1983 01:57:42,930 --> 01:57:45,600 believe this to be true, I could, you know, just an 1984 01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:50,430 extension of the guard normal thinking is to prevent Europe 1985 01:57:50,430 --> 01:57:53,910 for putting together their own damned army, because every time 1986 01:57:53,910 --> 01:57:58,440 they do anything, the reason for NATO is just really to kind of 1987 01:57:59,310 --> 01:58:02,730 throw a wet blanket on the Europeans all together, because 1988 01:58:02,730 --> 01:58:05,580 they'll just start killing each other again. Yeah. Because 1989 01:58:05,820 --> 01:58:08,940 deep rooted issues, certainly the Germans and the French. 1990 01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:13,920 Yes. And that's so we have this NATO, too. But we can't say that 1991 01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,740 because it doesn't solve the Europeans. We can't be honest to 1992 01:58:16,740 --> 01:58:18,240 not transition. 1993 01:58:19,230 --> 01:58:21,510 It's natural protocol. 1994 01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:27,390 Let's go on with this is complaining with NATO clips re 1995 01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:32,130 when we join with our allies to whether it's defeating the 1996 01:58:32,130 --> 01:58:38,040 Taliban and Afghanistan, supporting those in Iraq to beat 1997 01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:43,620 back ISIS to protect NATO when a Russia invades a neighboring 1998 01:58:43,620 --> 01:58:47,430 country, this it makes America stronger. It's a part of US 1999 01:58:47,430 --> 01:58:50,130 national security. So when you're criticizing NATO and and 2000 01:58:50,130 --> 01:58:53,880 saying it's obsolete, you're actually degrading US national 2001 01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:58,080 security. And that's what has us all so confused about Mr. 2002 01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:00,900 Trump's comments. It's okay to say Europe's not spending 2003 01:59:00,900 --> 01:59:05,040 enough, and we need to increase that spending. But we get an 2004 01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:08,340 enormous benefit out of the NATO alliance, 2005 01:59:08,460 --> 01:59:10,680 just not tradition. It's not protocol. 2006 01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,440 Again, not really telling the truth here. For one thing, we 2007 01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:16,620 have not defeated the Taliban. 2008 01:59:17,490 --> 01:59:20,100 And while just while we're on who I'm hearing so much about 2009 01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:25,560 Afghanistan, there's a story. There's a retired CIA agent, CIA 2010 01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:31,320 agent, John Abbotsford. And he has written he has written a 2011 01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:34,950 book. He's been on the talk shows now okay, I haven't seen 2012 01:59:34,950 --> 01:59:38,220 him. He says he's written a book CIA in Afghanistan, 30 years of 2013 01:59:38,220 --> 01:59:44,400 drug smuggling, and and he says, I participated. We were 2014 01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:47,580 smuggling the drugs. And he says there's a desperate attempt by 2015 01:59:47,580 --> 01:59:51,540 the US government to shut me up in this court case. And now you 2016 01:59:51,540 --> 01:59:54,030 know, the way it works with CIA you have to run everything past 2017 01:59:54,030 --> 01:59:57,630 the pickle factory before you can publish it. So he's 2018 01:59:57,630 --> 02:00:00,300 obviously having an issue with that, but I think It'll go 2019 02:00:00,300 --> 02:00:04,020 nowhere. But I can't wait to read it if it ever comes out. 2020 02:00:05,609 --> 02:00:08,369 Well, he's been floating around. Yeah, but you, you'll catch him 2021 02:00:08,369 --> 02:00:12,419 on alternative media mostly. Let's go to clip four. And then 2022 02:00:12,419 --> 02:00:13,799 we'll that'll be the end of this 2023 02:00:13,859 --> 02:00:17,939 rush across the brightest red line and international law by 2024 02:00:18,059 --> 02:00:22,019 invading, annexing Crimea, and then dividing Eastern Ukraine 2025 02:00:22,019 --> 02:00:25,109 and Donbass. And of course, it's been threatening our NATO 2026 02:00:25,109 --> 02:00:27,839 allies, the Baltic states, those sanctuary systems are in place 2027 02:00:28,109 --> 02:00:31,979 by Europeans, Canadians and Americans as leverage against 2028 02:00:31,979 --> 02:00:35,579 Russia. And the sanctions cannot be lifted until Russia removes 2029 02:00:35,579 --> 02:00:38,759 his forces from eastern Ukraine. If it doesn't do that, and if we 2030 02:00:38,759 --> 02:00:42,389 give away way on sanctions, Russia gets away with grand 2031 02:00:42,389 --> 02:00:46,379 larceny. The European leadership will be furious with the United 2032 02:00:46,379 --> 02:00:50,069 States Angular Merkel especially she negotiated the sanctions 2033 02:00:50,249 --> 02:00:53,729 with President Putin directly. And so I think it's a very 2034 02:00:53,729 --> 02:00:57,629 unwise it gives away American American influence, it would be 2035 02:00:57,629 --> 02:01:01,049 a weak policy by the United States, not a strong policy. 2036 02:01:02,340 --> 02:01:07,230 When did did you know that Merkel negotiated the sanctions 2037 02:01:07,230 --> 02:01:11,190 with the Putin personally? No, I didn't do instead. 2038 02:01:11,460 --> 02:01:14,160 I believe it though. I know that 2039 02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:16,470 you believe it. But I think it would be nice to know this. And 2040 02:01:16,470 --> 02:01:19,650 it first was such a strong bunch of tough guys. Why didn't we do 2041 02:01:19,650 --> 02:01:19,860 it? 2042 02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:26,250 Oh, because he's our adversary. I've no idea. I do know that. 2043 02:01:27,570 --> 02:01:30,930 The German opposition leader, what's the German opposition's 2044 02:01:30,930 --> 02:01:36,510 leaders name? Parliamentary Leader of the Opposition? What 2045 02:01:36,510 --> 02:01:42,180 is her name now? vog and connect? She says we need to 2046 02:01:42,180 --> 02:01:45,900 have a security union with Russia for the dissolution of 2047 02:01:45,900 --> 02:01:48,150 NATO. Trump is not the only one. 2048 02:01:51,060 --> 02:01:54,180 Again, again, I think this is because NATO is really just a 2049 02:01:54,180 --> 02:01:57,870 wet blanket to keep the European because this nonsense that they 2050 02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:01,860 held, you know that they helped us invade because attacking one 2051 02:02:01,860 --> 02:02:06,870 of us is attacking all of us. So so. Afghanistan was invaded with 2052 02:02:06,870 --> 02:02:10,380 the help of NATO. Afghanistan didn't attack us. 2053 02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:16,560 Nope. Well, that was from remember the story. First was Al 2054 02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:19,830 Qaeda. Iraq then was like, Oh, crap, man. Yeah, no, I mean, 2055 02:02:19,830 --> 02:02:23,850 Afghanistan and Pakistan. We just went all over the place. We 2056 02:02:23,850 --> 02:02:27,480 are horrible. I want to go back. 2057 02:02:27,510 --> 02:02:31,920 And it may be, you know, maybe favorable to keep NATO going to 2058 02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:35,430 keep this World War siege from breaking up by these maniacs in 2059 02:02:35,430 --> 02:02:36,210 the EU? 2060 02:02:36,540 --> 02:02:39,540 Well, they certainly have their own army at play, which is, as 2061 02:02:39,540 --> 02:02:42,510 you pointed out, is what was not supposed to happen. So they have 2062 02:02:42,510 --> 02:02:46,260 that now, or they're getting it started. Not bad. The one 2063 02:02:46,770 --> 02:02:50,490 I do get to buy twice as many ammunitions. 2064 02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:54,720 I want to go back to Devo double. But first, something 2065 02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:59,280 very interesting happened with our tea. And I caught this 2066 02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:03,090 report this morning. And they're not exactly clear on some 2067 02:03:03,090 --> 02:03:05,490 things. So I'll interrupt in enlighten 2068 02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:09,540 Artie has been blocked from posting content to its Facebook 2069 02:03:09,540 --> 02:03:13,860 page. The ban was triggered by an algorithm that checks what's 2070 02:03:13,860 --> 02:03:17,640 being submitted online. Artis head of social media has been 2071 02:03:17,670 --> 02:03:19,530 explaining to me what happened? 2072 02:03:19,950 --> 02:03:23,970 Well, unfortunately, a bot struck as it were, we were 2073 02:03:23,970 --> 02:03:27,240 carrying the livestream of Barack Obama's press conferences 2074 02:03:27,240 --> 02:03:29,040 final press conference yesterday, as were many news 2075 02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:34,350 agencies across Facebook and a channel knows nasty Ashley 2076 02:03:34,350 --> 02:03:36,840 Freeman you have which is, in fact part of Radio Free Europe, 2077 02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:42,420 it's owned by the BBG, the US kind of government media struck 2078 02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:46,950 against us. There was a Facebook bot informed us that they had 2079 02:03:46,950 --> 02:03:49,050 claimed rights on this broadcast. So 2080 02:03:49,890 --> 02:03:54,690 so the let's just presume RT is indeed a complete propaganda arm 2081 02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:59,820 of the state and of Putin. What happened is the propaganda arm 2082 02:03:59,820 --> 02:04:02,670 of the United States, the broadcast board of governors who 2083 02:04:02,820 --> 02:04:05,490 run Voice of America who run the Russian station, you just 2084 02:04:05,490 --> 02:04:12,360 mentioned, they called out, you know, they flagged RTS video 2085 02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:15,150 saying, oh, that's copyright violation, because that, you 2086 02:04:15,150 --> 02:04:18,840 know, we have the rights to that. So it's the act of 2087 02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:21,600 propaganda organizations fighting propaganda 2088 02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:24,180 organizations. This is stellar. 2089 02:04:25,350 --> 02:04:31,140 Government media struck against us. There was a Facebook bot 2090 02:04:31,140 --> 02:04:33,240 informed us that they had claimed rights on this 2091 02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:36,960 broadcast. This claim against us brought us over a certain 2092 02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:40,680 threshold with Facebook. And we unfortunately were struck by a 2093 02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:43,770 Facebook bot and informs us that we are now blocked from posting 2094 02:04:43,770 --> 02:04:47,100 any content to our Facebook page, where we have 4 million 2095 02:04:47,100 --> 02:04:51,060 fantastic followers. And yeah, for at the moment, we're waiting 2096 02:04:51,060 --> 02:04:53,850 to hear from them. So it should be we should make it clear. It 2097 02:04:53,910 --> 02:04:57,660 took the AP feed, we're an AP clients and we took an AP feed 2098 02:04:57,660 --> 02:05:00,090 of the Barack Obama presser we've done it loads of times We 2099 02:05:00,090 --> 02:05:03,150 will continue to do it once once the block is lifted. But 2100 02:05:03,240 --> 02:05:06,150 unfortunately, we're looking at a time limit right now unless we 2101 02:05:06,150 --> 02:05:07,590 heard from Facebook or can resolve the problem, the 2102 02:05:07,590 --> 02:05:09,990 shorter, we're looking at a time limit that will take us through 2103 02:05:09,990 --> 02:05:11,220 the Trump inauguration. 2104 02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:14,310 So they won't be able to post to the face bag until after the 2105 02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:15,930 inauguration. So as 2106 02:05:15,930 --> 02:05:18,840 a client of the Associated Press, which gives you these 2107 02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:23,220 rights, yeah. And as part of the deal, as opposed to we'll just 2108 02:05:23,220 --> 02:05:27,960 steal Associated Press material. Yeah. So they did it 2109 02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:33,480 legitimately and then face bag. Just cut them off. Just anyway. 2110 02:05:33,510 --> 02:05:37,170 Yeah, well, yeah. And it was, uh, but I doubt it. They cut 2111 02:05:37,170 --> 02:05:37,650 them off. 2112 02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:40,200 They cut them off, and it won't be reinstated until after the 2113 02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:43,860 inauguration. Huh? Oh, someone says in the chat room, the ban 2114 02:05:43,860 --> 02:05:47,490 was lifted. That's possible that it already happened. But still, 2115 02:05:48,090 --> 02:05:50,520 that is propaganda war. And I like it. 2116 02:05:51,150 --> 02:05:57,240 Yeah, cool. Is we have our own system to distribute our 2117 02:05:57,240 --> 02:06:01,680 product. As opposed to using I don't know, pod bean or 2118 02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:02,100 whatever. 2119 02:06:02,850 --> 02:06:06,840 You know, did you subscribe me to pod bean? Because? Because 2120 02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:10,680 I'm getting an email every week. Here's your stats on pod bean. 2121 02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:15,840 We don't use now I think somebody posted us on pod bean 2122 02:06:15,870 --> 02:06:16,380 Nice. 2123 02:06:16,409 --> 02:06:21,089 Maybe possible. Can't get too much bent. You can't get too 2124 02:06:21,089 --> 02:06:23,699 much bandwidth out of them before paying a lot of money, 2125 02:06:23,729 --> 02:06:24,059 no. 2126 02:06:25,500 --> 02:06:30,900 And back to Davao for a moment because the most interesting 2127 02:06:30,900 --> 02:06:38,520 guest was Jack Ma of Alibaba. And I don't know much about Jack 2128 02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:41,970 Ma. I don't I learned a lot about how Alibaba works. They're 2129 02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:45,390 really not comparable to Amazon in their their business model. 2130 02:06:45,390 --> 02:06:48,540 There is as you'll hear their business model Izmir is more 2131 02:06:48,540 --> 02:06:55,410 data or as he says data's But Jack, of course Jack Ma met with 2132 02:06:55,410 --> 02:07:00,180 Trump. And of course, that's the first question there in Davao. 2133 02:07:00,210 --> 02:07:03,810 And we all have to laugh as well when that happens where a 2134 02:07:03,810 --> 02:07:05,970 billionaire businessman meets with another billionaire 2135 02:07:05,970 --> 02:07:08,310 businessman trying to make the world better, but it's 2136 02:07:08,370 --> 02:07:09,930 apparently a laughable fact. 2137 02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:13,320 Let me start with this. Which is to say that you just spent some 2138 02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:22,770 time inside Trump Tower in and went to visit with our president 2139 02:07:22,770 --> 02:07:25,080 elect in the United States tell us about that meeting. 2140 02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:30,390 That's very productive meeting. Much better than I thought than 2141 02:07:30,390 --> 02:07:34,350 I expected. What did you expect? Well, I heard 2142 02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:40,200 the can't stop laughing. What is wrong with these people? It's 2143 02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:43,230 like just the name Trump evokes laughter is very interesting. 2144 02:07:43,410 --> 02:07:44,430 Well, I 2145 02:07:44,430 --> 02:07:47,910 heard a lot on the watch. Like everybody, I watch all the news 2146 02:07:47,910 --> 02:07:51,780 and heard a lot about him. So when I go inside us, um, 2147 02:07:51,810 --> 02:07:58,140 anything that but he's three sort of open minded, listen to 2148 02:07:58,320 --> 02:08:02,880 what I talk. So I think I'm very happy by results and failed, 2149 02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:06,060 where he said he offered subject, let me walk you down. 2150 02:08:06,390 --> 02:08:09,120 They seem he's very happy about the results we had. 2151 02:08:09,420 --> 02:08:12,810 Can I ask how does a meeting like that happen? Do you call 2152 02:08:12,810 --> 02:08:14,670 him? Does she call you? 2153 02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:21,630 More or less than? It's more for? Haha? No. What? What is 2154 02:08:21,630 --> 02:08:26,580 that? What is it in this universe that we're listening 2155 02:08:26,580 --> 02:08:32,040 to? That? These things are funny? Why is it funny? So I did 2156 02:08:32,040 --> 02:08:32,220 this 2157 02:08:32,220 --> 02:08:33,840 meeting happened. Oh, 2158 02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:39,480 does he call you to you? He called you. I mean, that is 2159 02:08:39,480 --> 02:08:42,600 not funny. Let's start with that premise. Because it's not like a 2160 02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:46,530 great gag. It's not a joke. It's but there's some there's 2161 02:08:46,530 --> 02:08:49,410 something about this, like this guy that was on the on the media 2162 02:08:49,410 --> 02:08:51,300 that couldn't get out of bed and he was completely so 2163 02:08:51,300 --> 02:08:54,810 like nervous. Nervous laughter I guess nervous laughter perhaps. 2164 02:08:54,990 --> 02:08:57,870 I don't think it was nervous laughter I think it was as good. 2165 02:08:58,500 --> 02:09:01,200 As you know, the men's club kind of laughter where you laugh at 2166 02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:04,860 anything this guy says? Because you know that he hates Trump 2167 02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:09,120 behind it all. Maybe that's what I'm thinking. Hmm. It was Chuck 2168 02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:09,780 Todd, right. 2169 02:09:10,470 --> 02:09:14,760 Who was asking the questions. Now there's another guy. I 2170 02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:17,130 recognize him. I don't know his mix. Sounds like it's not. 2171 02:09:17,790 --> 02:09:18,450 Alright, we'll continue. 2172 02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:22,530 Oh, are you? How does this take place? Well, 2173 02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:28,560 that's, that's the question. I'm asking myself. Because some 2174 02:09:28,590 --> 02:09:33,090 Sunday, I got some requests from people say Jag. Do you want a 2175 02:09:33,090 --> 02:09:38,580 meeting the President Elect say, is that true or not? Because I'm 2176 02:09:38,580 --> 02:09:43,050 not ready for that. Because I don't know what to talk about. 2177 02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:45,810 And then few days later, I got another request. I've got 2178 02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:48,900 several requests. And then I saw one email, which were friend has 2179 02:09:48,900 --> 02:09:55,200 very sort of specific. I thought about it, I think, yes, maybe I 2180 02:09:55,200 --> 02:10:02,010 should go and have a talk. And at least I think President Elect 2181 02:10:02,010 --> 02:10:06,660 Donald Trump will be happy to hear what I want to talk about. 2182 02:10:07,020 --> 02:10:09,300 So I went and what did you tell him? 2183 02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:14,880 About the small business? Talk about agricultural products talk 2184 02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:19,830 about the trade between China and the USA. We especially focus 2185 02:10:19,830 --> 02:10:23,850 on Todd telling about how can we bring this small business in 2186 02:10:23,850 --> 02:10:26,610 America seldom to China? Do you 2187 02:10:26,610 --> 02:10:28,770 hear what he's saying? By the way? He says China, he doesn't 2188 02:10:28,770 --> 02:10:32,460 say China. He says China just the way Trump says it. China. 2189 02:10:34,740 --> 02:10:35,460 Did you notice that? 2190 02:10:35,910 --> 02:10:37,920 No, I didn't. But I'll pay attention. Yeah, the 2191 02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:40,950 quality is a little crappy. But he definitely just saying China 2192 02:10:40,980 --> 02:10:45,630 because sell them to China, through our network, which can 2193 02:10:45,630 --> 02:10:46,770 create a lot of jobs for them, 2194 02:10:46,860 --> 02:10:49,740 given some of the comments that Donald Trump has made about 2195 02:10:49,740 --> 02:10:52,860 China being a manipulator, a currency manipulator. Did that 2196 02:10:52,860 --> 02:10:53,910 come up during your meeting? 2197 02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:57,810 Well, I think first in America, there's a freedom of speech. 2198 02:10:58,110 --> 02:11:02,130 Right? So he can say whatever he wants, and I respect I 2199 02:11:02,130 --> 02:11:07,170 understand. But of course, I have my views. We did not debate 2200 02:11:07,170 --> 02:11:10,770 about the China us a Trine or toe or manipulation. We're gonna 2201 02:11:10,770 --> 02:11:15,420 debate whether or not we actually agreed on something 2202 02:11:15,630 --> 02:11:19,290 small business, developing the Midwest, America, helping the 2203 02:11:19,290 --> 02:11:22,950 farmers their small business, they're exporting to China. So 2204 02:11:22,950 --> 02:11:26,490 we all agree, but something that we do not discuss about the, you 2205 02:11:26,490 --> 02:11:31,770 know, the American Job losing to China or met shiner this. 2206 02:11:33,060 --> 02:11:38,880 Okay, so you had a nice meeting with him? Sounds like, yeah. And 2207 02:11:39,030 --> 02:11:41,100 then Jack Ma, like 2208 02:11:41,100 --> 02:11:44,370 everybody who's met with Trump. If you think about it, now, 2209 02:11:44,370 --> 02:11:49,110 there's all kinds of burying people try to buttonhole them as 2210 02:11:49,110 --> 02:11:52,410 they leave the elevator. They've also they've had a good meeting. 2211 02:11:52,980 --> 02:11:55,590 So he gives good meeting, apparently. Yeah. And 2212 02:11:55,620 --> 02:12:02,910 the Ma said, yeah, he listened. He's very open. Gee, I don't 2213 02:12:02,910 --> 02:12:08,220 know, why didn't they run him out of town. And then Jack, Jack 2214 02:12:08,220 --> 02:12:15,870 Ma, gave us his analysis of our system, the United States 2215 02:12:15,870 --> 02:12:22,620 system, how we are part of the global community and what we the 2216 02:12:22,620 --> 02:12:27,270 choices we made our strategy over the past, let's say 40 to 2217 02:12:27,270 --> 02:12:28,680 50 years, but actually longer 2218 02:12:28,710 --> 02:12:33,330 Can I share with you my ideas, please? I think 30 years ago, 2219 02:12:33,330 --> 02:12:36,930 when I just did graduate from universities, I heard American a 2220 02:12:36,930 --> 02:12:42,210 wonderful strategy. They outsource the manufacturing job 2221 02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:46,110 service jobs. They outsource manufacturing to Mexico and 2222 02:12:46,110 --> 02:12:51,120 China outsource the service job to Indian there's a book called 2223 02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:52,170 The World is a Flat 2224 02:12:52,500 --> 02:12:54,420 Tom Friedman. Yeah, Alec at the New York Times. 2225 02:12:54,660 --> 02:12:58,620 And I think it's a perfect strategy. You know, that the the 2226 02:12:58,620 --> 02:13:02,040 American said, we just want to control the IP, we just want to 2227 02:13:02,070 --> 02:13:06,090 technology, we just want the brand to leave the the law and a 2228 02:13:06,090 --> 02:13:11,820 job for the world. Grace strategy. And second is that the 2229 02:13:11,820 --> 02:13:15,330 American International Company has made millions and millions 2230 02:13:15,330 --> 02:13:19,950 of dollars from globalization, the Top 10 Top 100 companies in 2231 02:13:19,950 --> 02:13:26,220 America past a 30 years IBM, Cisco, Microsoft, they made a 2232 02:13:26,220 --> 02:13:29,730 tons of them and the money the profit they've made a much more 2233 02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:33,300 than the four largest banks in China put together the moat 2234 02:13:33,300 --> 02:13:36,540 China Mobifone China Unicom and whatever you name it put 2235 02:13:36,540 --> 02:13:39,480 together still these multinational companies made 2236 02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:43,140 more money bet so their market cap grow more than 100 times in 2237 02:13:43,140 --> 02:13:46,290 past 30 years. But where'd the money go? This is what I'm 2238 02:13:46,290 --> 02:13:49,770 curious. Because as a business people, I always care about the 2239 02:13:49,770 --> 02:13:53,340 balance sheet where the money coming when money go past the 30 2240 02:13:53,340 --> 02:13:59,670 years, the American hat 13 was spending $14.2 trillion the 2241 02:13:59,670 --> 02:14:03,480 money going there? What if they spent a part of the money on 2242 02:14:03,510 --> 02:14:07,410 building up the infrastructure, helping the white cars, the 2243 02:14:07,410 --> 02:14:11,070 white collars and blue collars, no matter how strategy good it 2244 02:14:11,070 --> 02:14:14,940 is? You're supposed to spending money on your own people. Right 2245 02:14:14,970 --> 02:14:19,920 on the left, everybody can pass Harvard, like me, we got about 2246 02:14:20,850 --> 02:14:24,030 education, right? We should spend money on those people who 2247 02:14:24,030 --> 02:14:27,450 are not a good schooling and the other money, which I'm curious 2248 02:14:27,450 --> 02:14:32,850 about when I was young, I heard America is bad. A Ford, Ford and 2249 02:14:32,850 --> 02:14:36,600 Boeing those big manufacturing companies last 1020 years I 2250 02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:40,650 heard about is Silicon Valley and Wall Street. The money go to 2251 02:14:40,650 --> 02:14:45,360 the Wall Street. And what happened year 2008. The 2252 02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:51,510 financial crisis wiped out $19.2 trillion. USA alone wiped the 2253 02:14:51,510 --> 02:14:56,310 all of the white colors and destroyed 34 million jobs 2254 02:14:56,310 --> 02:15:00,330 globally. So what if the money is not Wall Street? Why If the 2255 02:15:00,330 --> 02:15:04,290 money spent on the Middle East, Midwest of the United States, 2256 02:15:04,560 --> 02:15:08,190 developing the industry there, that could be changed a lot. So 2257 02:15:08,190 --> 02:15:13,020 it's not the other countries steal jobs from your guys. It is 2258 02:15:13,020 --> 02:15:14,460 your strategy. Yeah, 2259 02:15:14,940 --> 02:15:18,930 exactly. We take the money, and we go attack brown people who 2260 02:15:18,930 --> 02:15:22,260 live in the sand. Instead of building up infrastructure. 2261 02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:25,590 Yes. Why there's potholes on the road right outside my house on 2262 02:15:25,590 --> 02:15:30,960 the highway, US Highway 80 is an interstate highway with potholes 2263 02:15:30,960 --> 02:15:31,860 all over the place. 2264 02:15:31,890 --> 02:15:34,890 John Cena borax diva day. 2265 02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:39,690 final clip. And this is what I don't like about Jack Ma. I've 2266 02:15:39,720 --> 02:15:42,420 In fact, I find this quite dangerous what he's doing. He's 2267 02:15:42,420 --> 02:15:48,240 building something called EWT. Which is the that's the it's 2268 02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:54,960 basically a network that will enable people to connect with 2269 02:15:54,960 --> 02:15:58,560 manufacturing sales, etc. That's pretty much what Alibaba does. 2270 02:15:59,340 --> 02:16:02,820 But there's something else they do. And that is credit. They do. 2271 02:16:03,030 --> 02:16:03,360 They have 2272 02:16:03,390 --> 02:16:07,410 you by the way they do a crappy job. Oh, yeah. No, it's not that 2273 02:16:07,410 --> 02:16:10,530 these No, because you like you want to, you know, you're 2274 02:16:10,530 --> 02:16:12,450 finishing a little podcast device. I'm going to come over 2275 02:16:12,450 --> 02:16:16,860 the microphone. They have. They do the connections are terrible. 2276 02:16:17,130 --> 02:16:21,210 They never respond. These companies are dumb. Eric had a 2277 02:16:21,210 --> 02:16:23,820 problem with it. Because, you know, outsource the rings in 2278 02:16:23,820 --> 02:16:27,450 some of these other things to doing some mugs to China and 2279 02:16:27,450 --> 02:16:30,180 they got screwed on a couple of deals. One guy just stole the 2280 02:16:30,180 --> 02:16:34,590 money. Yeah, the staff to they don't do anything about that. 2281 02:16:34,620 --> 02:16:36,180 Anyway, I'm sorry. Go on. Yeah, but it's 2282 02:16:36,180 --> 02:16:39,870 uh, yeah, of course, there's, of course there's fraud. And you 2283 02:16:39,870 --> 02:16:42,420 know, the fake products, which I didn't clip it. But he actually 2284 02:16:42,420 --> 02:16:45,060 went on to say that a lot of these fake products like the 2285 02:16:45,060 --> 02:16:50,070 fake brand name bags and stuff like that. He says, It is so 2286 02:16:50,070 --> 02:16:57,150 good. That sometimes the quality of the knockoffs is better than 2287 02:16:57,150 --> 02:17:00,510 the original. I agree with that. And he said, he said we would 2288 02:17:00,510 --> 02:17:04,620 buy knockoffs, right off of Alibaba ourselves, send it to 2289 02:17:04,620 --> 02:17:07,590 the company, they'd be like, No, that's one of ours, even though 2290 02:17:07,590 --> 02:17:11,820 it wasn't. That's just an interesting tip, because you can 2291 02:17:11,820 --> 02:17:14,520 get the same look and better quality. Yeah, it's theft, but 2292 02:17:14,550 --> 02:17:18,210 no well, but he's come up with something with these micro 2293 02:17:18,210 --> 02:17:21,420 loans. And that's a part of the Alibaba Alibaba system. And 2294 02:17:21,420 --> 02:17:25,410 based upon your purchasing or your sales behavior, through the 2295 02:17:25,410 --> 02:17:30,600 system, I guess a lot of Chinese must use it. They through AI, he 2296 02:17:30,600 --> 02:17:35,430 has a hands off credit system, that within three minutes, they 2297 02:17:35,430 --> 02:17:38,940 can determine if your credit worthy for this $5,000 line of 2298 02:17:38,940 --> 02:17:41,790 credit. And it's done through something called the sesame 2299 02:17:41,790 --> 02:17:46,260 card. And these cards are kind of like a rating as to your 2300 02:17:46,260 --> 02:17:49,320 credit score. It's very similar to what we have only this is run 2301 02:17:49,320 --> 02:17:52,860 by one big commercial company. And I think it's very dangerous 2302 02:17:52,860 --> 02:17:55,530 if you listen to how gleeful he talks about it. We are a 2303 02:17:55,560 --> 02:18:01,170 data company eight years ago, we said to ourself, Alibaba should 2304 02:18:01,170 --> 02:18:04,110 not be an E commerce company, we should be a data company because 2305 02:18:04,110 --> 02:18:06,660 we have the data's from consumers, we have data from 2306 02:18:06,660 --> 02:18:10,050 the, the the manufacturer of daters, from the logistic 2307 02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:13,890 company and transactions, but we think how we can make a data 2308 02:18:14,220 --> 02:18:18,360 really beneficiary to the society what China need is we 2309 02:18:18,360 --> 02:18:23,580 have a lot of great people all the small business they have a 2310 02:18:23,580 --> 02:18:26,700 very they're very credible but because we don't have a credit 2311 02:18:26,700 --> 02:18:32,160 system for that, so how can we use a credit rating system based 2312 02:18:32,160 --> 02:18:38,070 on the data so we have to it giving everybody a sesame a 2313 02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:41,940 rating system that is so powerful in the past four years, 2314 02:18:42,240 --> 02:18:45,750 because every individual every small business if they've been 2315 02:18:45,750 --> 02:18:49,590 using our services, we give them a rating system. So we give you 2316 02:18:49,620 --> 02:18:54,120 loans in the past five years, we've given 5 million business 2317 02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:59,610 loans the only bought borrow $5,000 free minutes we can 2318 02:18:59,610 --> 02:19:02,280 decide whether we should give you money how much I'm going to 2319 02:19:02,280 --> 02:19:06,720 give within one second the money will be in your account and zero 2320 02:19:06,750 --> 02:19:12,030 people touch so we call it a 310 Even today the sesame rating 2321 02:19:12,030 --> 02:19:16,800 system become people dating the mother in law want to say hey, 2322 02:19:16,830 --> 02:19:19,410 you want to date to with my daughter show me your rating 2323 02:19:19,410 --> 02:19:23,610 system of the sesame car. So it's so funny we go to the 2324 02:19:24,090 --> 02:19:26,970 people want to rent a car people want to rent a bicycle they will 2325 02:19:26,970 --> 02:19:31,620 say show me your sesame cards. Good because if they do not pay 2326 02:19:31,620 --> 02:19:35,730 back if they do not fulfill the rating system gonna slow down 2327 02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:39,450 and they can never rent a house. This is what we want to build up 2328 02:19:39,540 --> 02:19:40,200 the system. 2329 02:19:40,950 --> 02:19:44,250 And this is coming everywhere. I guarantee you. This is what 2330 02:19:44,250 --> 02:19:47,610 social media will be used for. Well, let's see how many likes 2331 02:19:47,610 --> 02:19:50,280 you have. Let's see what people say about you. Are you that's 2332 02:19:50,280 --> 02:19:53,580 that's how credit ratings are going to be determined. And 2333 02:19:53,580 --> 02:19:57,450 maybe we'll all have a sesame card on I don't know. I don't 2334 02:19:57,450 --> 02:19:58,740 like that part about Jack Ma 2335 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:01,920 Well he's all jubilant about it. 2336 02:20:02,040 --> 02:20:05,970 Yeah that's the that's the problem. Yeah, I agree. 2337 02:20:08,490 --> 02:20:13,500 All right. Don't want to hear I disagree really kind of like 2338 02:20:13,500 --> 02:20:17,370 Davos on the I think it I don't believe this was at Davos. But 2339 02:20:17,370 --> 02:20:20,130 it was Theresa May guy. 2340 02:20:20,130 --> 02:20:24,060 Yes. The big break and a couple of the big Brexit speech. Yeah, 2341 02:20:24,059 --> 02:20:26,249 give me firstly we can listen if you want to listen to a little 2342 02:20:26,249 --> 02:20:30,359 bit of back and forth with Angus Robertson, the head of Scotland 2343 02:20:32,219 --> 02:20:38,069 asking a question. That is kind of mean spirited or you want to 2344 02:20:38,069 --> 02:20:40,589 hear Theresa and her little speech. Let's go with the speech 2345 02:20:40,589 --> 02:20:44,969 she has here. Theresa May on Brexit on PBS. I 2346 02:20:44,969 --> 02:20:49,379 listened to it last night when I was in bed. And it was so 2347 02:20:49,379 --> 02:20:49,889 boring. 2348 02:20:50,130 --> 02:20:53,460 British Prime Minister Theresa May declared today that her 2349 02:20:53,460 --> 02:20:57,420 government wants a clean break from the European Union. Mei 2350 02:20:57,420 --> 02:21:01,080 laid out her thinking as Britain gets ready to negotiate terms 2351 02:21:01,080 --> 02:21:04,410 for leaving the EU. She confirmed it means an end to 2352 02:21:04,410 --> 02:21:08,610 Britain's role in Europe single market and to travel without 2353 02:21:08,610 --> 02:21:11,490 passports. But she also issued a warning. 2354 02:21:12,030 --> 02:21:15,690 I know there are some voices calling for a punitive deal that 2355 02:21:15,690 --> 02:21:19,290 punishes Britain and discourages other countries from taking the 2356 02:21:19,290 --> 02:21:24,750 same path. That would be an act of kilometers self harm for the 2357 02:21:24,750 --> 02:21:28,110 countries of Europe. And it would not be the act of a 2358 02:21:28,110 --> 02:21:33,330 friend. Britain would not indeed we could not accept such an 2359 02:21:33,330 --> 02:21:33,960 approach. 2360 02:21:35,100 --> 02:21:40,320 I'd like to play the EURO NEWS response from Brussels to her 2361 02:21:40,320 --> 02:21:40,710 speech. 2362 02:21:43,830 --> 02:21:47,040 I was gonna say this seemed like a veiled threat. 2363 02:21:49,110 --> 02:21:49,980 In what regard? 2364 02:21:50,520 --> 02:21:53,880 She says that we're not going to put up with anybody messing with 2365 02:21:53,880 --> 02:21:57,600 us, because we're doing this. Yeah. And and before you play 2366 02:21:57,600 --> 02:22:00,150 your clip, which you should play, you should also listen to 2367 02:22:00,150 --> 02:22:03,750 the second the second little gotcha in this thing, which I 2368 02:22:03,750 --> 02:22:05,760 thought was just like outrageous, but this is the 2369 02:22:05,760 --> 02:22:08,580 parliament vote on the final deal, which actually follow what 2370 02:22:08,580 --> 02:22:10,170 you just said with this 2371 02:22:10,350 --> 02:22:13,680 may also promise that Parliament will be able to vote on the 2372 02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:16,320 final deal likely in 2019. 2373 02:22:20,880 --> 02:22:22,980 That's how long it will take for the negotiation. 2374 02:22:23,370 --> 02:22:25,950 That's not it. No, that's before the negotiate. That's just to 2375 02:22:25,950 --> 02:22:30,570 say, Okay, let's yes, no, yes, two 2376 02:22:30,569 --> 02:22:32,579 years before they even vote. 2377 02:22:33,330 --> 02:22:35,250 Let's get down and we're gonna keep talking about this two 2378 02:22:35,250 --> 02:22:37,410 years after article 50. 2379 02:22:37,469 --> 02:22:39,839 Oh, my goodness. Well, let's let's Yes. And yeah, I think 2380 02:22:39,839 --> 02:22:43,109 you're right, actually, here's the douchebags in Brussels. 2381 02:22:43,140 --> 02:22:46,290 British Prime Minister Theresa May has been accused of wanting 2382 02:22:46,290 --> 02:22:49,680 to cherry pick European union benefits in her speech setting 2383 02:22:49,680 --> 02:22:53,250 out her Brexit priorities. While she stressed Britain will quit 2384 02:22:53,250 --> 02:22:56,310 the EU single market. She also said she'd seek a separate trade 2385 02:22:56,310 --> 02:22:59,730 agreement. The EU's Brexit negotiator was unimpressed. 2386 02:22:59,969 --> 02:23:05,249 We shall never accept a situation in which it is better 2387 02:23:05,249 --> 02:23:09,989 to be outside the European Union outside the single market than 2388 02:23:10,019 --> 02:23:15,479 to be a member of the European Union. If you want the 2389 02:23:15,479 --> 02:23:18,689 advantages of a single market and Customs Union, you have to 2390 02:23:18,689 --> 02:23:21,929 take also the obligations we need to fair agreement and 2391 02:23:21,929 --> 02:23:24,359 certainly not on the on the trend. 2392 02:23:25,350 --> 02:23:28,380 Some political leaders in the EU may have given a lukewarm 2393 02:23:28,380 --> 02:23:31,560 reception to my speech, but in London, her Brexit minister 2394 02:23:31,560 --> 02:23:34,530 David Davis said his job was to persuade Europe that a 2395 02:23:34,530 --> 02:23:38,520 reciprocal deal would be best approach is not about 2396 02:23:38,550 --> 02:23:42,840 cherry picking, but reaching a deal which fits the aims of both 2397 02:23:42,840 --> 02:23:45,900 sides. We understand the EU wants to preserve its four 2398 02:23:45,900 --> 02:23:49,800 freedoms and to chart its own course, pretty much every 2399 02:23:49,800 --> 02:23:52,980 country in the world that's not subject to sanctions has access 2400 02:23:52,980 --> 02:23:56,070 to the single market, we will have access to the single 2401 02:23:56,070 --> 02:23:57,870 market. The question that this is about 2402 02:23:57,900 --> 02:23:58,770 is the terms. 2403 02:23:59,280 --> 02:24:02,400 So Brexit talks are expected to be one of the most complicated 2404 02:24:02,400 --> 02:24:06,060 negotiations in post world war two European history. Brussels 2405 02:24:06,060 --> 02:24:09,210 has described May's aim of wrapping them up in two years as 2406 02:24:09,270 --> 02:24:10,200 ambitious 2407 02:24:10,350 --> 02:24:13,140 to hear they say talking about wrapping it up in two years. 2408 02:24:14,460 --> 02:24:16,200 Which would you heard the last word? 2409 02:24:16,680 --> 02:24:21,510 It's ambitious? It's it's ambitious. Yeah. Why is that? Is 2410 02:24:21,510 --> 02:24:25,410 that so hard? Actually, I guess so if you look at all the 2411 02:24:25,410 --> 02:24:29,970 treaties and everything has been signed, that goes back to 1950 2412 02:24:30,810 --> 02:24:35,070 with the European atomic and it was at the Atomic Energy Union. 2413 02:24:35,070 --> 02:24:36,840 I think it was It started off that way. 2414 02:24:37,650 --> 02:24:40,290 I don't remember I mean, she gets retold a number of 2415 02:24:40,590 --> 02:24:45,150 so many treaties. Yeah, it's a mess is great for lawyers. It's 2416 02:24:45,150 --> 02:24:46,050 fantastic. 2417 02:24:49,500 --> 02:24:54,420 But here we go. Let's go to Parliament. Yeah. And play may 2418 02:24:54,420 --> 02:24:59,010 vs. Angus, part one. Hold on. 2419 02:25:00,359 --> 02:25:01,559 Yeah, I got it 2420 02:25:01,619 --> 02:25:07,589 the robot son. And shortly after the prime minister confirmed 2421 02:25:07,589 --> 02:25:10,709 that she wants to take the UK out of the single European 2422 02:25:10,979 --> 02:25:15,449 market, the Scottish Parliament voted by a large cross party 2423 02:25:15,479 --> 02:25:21,299 majority to remain in the single European market, just as a large 2424 02:25:21,299 --> 02:25:26,339 majority of people in Scotland voted to remain in the European 2425 02:25:26,459 --> 02:25:30,689 Union. The Prime Minister has said the prime minister said 2426 02:25:30,779 --> 02:25:34,799 that Scotland is an equal partner in the United Kingdom. 2427 02:25:35,009 --> 02:25:38,249 Does she still believe this is true? Or if you just stringing 2428 02:25:38,249 --> 02:25:39,659 the people of Scotland along? 2429 02:25:41,700 --> 02:25:45,330 I gave I might refer the Right Honourable gentleman to my 2430 02:25:45,330 --> 02:25:48,390 speech yesterday, where I reiterated my commitment to be 2431 02:25:48,390 --> 02:25:51,540 working with the devolved administration's to ensure that 2432 02:25:51,540 --> 02:25:54,300 their voices heard that their interests are taken into account 2433 02:25:54,480 --> 02:25:57,660 as we proceed along this path of negotiating our exit from the 2434 02:25:57,660 --> 02:26:01,410 European Union. And also I specifically referenced the 2435 02:26:01,410 --> 02:26:03,570 Scotland plan. I understand the Welsh Government will be 2436 02:26:03,570 --> 02:26:07,920 producing a plan for Wales. For us to look at to that Scotland 2437 02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:11,760 plan will be being considered by the JMC on European negotiations 2438 02:26:11,820 --> 02:26:14,700 tomorrow, I believe we will be looking at it seriously. I'm 2439 02:26:14,700 --> 02:26:16,830 working with the Scottish Government on the proposals they 2440 02:26:16,830 --> 02:26:17,430 bring forward 2441 02:26:17,460 --> 02:26:22,050 because Roberts, Scotland's leading economic forecaster says 2442 02:26:22,050 --> 02:26:30,780 and I quote that real wages will fall Tories jeering and cheering 2443 02:26:31,260 --> 02:26:35,610 when the forecast for people's income isn't as likely to drop 2444 02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:44,010 by 2000 pounds. And the 18,000 Mr. Speaker that 80,000 People 2445 02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:49,590 may lose their jobs in Scotland as a result of the heart theory 2446 02:26:49,620 --> 02:26:55,230 break Brexit plan of the prime minister. The prime minister 2447 02:26:55,230 --> 02:27:00,330 believes that this is a price worth paying for her Little 2448 02:27:00,420 --> 02:27:01,740 Britain Brexit. 2449 02:27:08,040 --> 02:27:09,450 Little Britain Brexit 2450 02:27:09,479 --> 02:27:14,909 Yeah, Little Britain Brexit. Angus, you want to play the 2451 02:27:14,909 --> 02:27:15,359 second one? 2452 02:27:15,540 --> 02:27:19,950 Yeah, you can play the same way this is her answer and pretty 2453 02:27:19,950 --> 02:27:23,370 much the same, then she kind of does the put down line you have 2454 02:27:23,370 --> 02:27:25,890 to do traditionally at the end of the little spiel 2455 02:27:27,809 --> 02:27:30,389 for her Little Britain, Brexit. 2456 02:27:32,520 --> 02:27:35,490 I repeat what I said earlier, we will be working to ensure that 2457 02:27:35,490 --> 02:27:38,790 we get the best possible deal in terms of access to the single 2458 02:27:38,790 --> 02:27:41,880 market and continuing to cooperate in partnership with 2459 02:27:41,880 --> 02:27:44,880 the member states of the remaining 27 member states of 2460 02:27:44,880 --> 02:27:47,670 the European Union. But the Right Honourable gentleman, once 2461 02:27:47,670 --> 02:27:52,800 again, called talks about the possibility of negative impact 2462 02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:55,710 on Scotland. If Scotland were not part of the single market, 2463 02:27:55,920 --> 02:28:02,610 his party is dedicated to taking Scotland out of the single out 2464 02:28:03,540 --> 02:28:04,500 the United Kingdom. 2465 02:28:07,559 --> 02:28:10,829 I wish it was like that here in the States. That's so fun the 2466 02:28:10,829 --> 02:28:14,819 way they do that. It is fun. I like it. I like it. 2467 02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:21,180 Question comes to mind kind of what are they doing different in 2468 02:28:21,180 --> 02:28:24,270 the EU and they're running it out of Brussels and you talked 2469 02:28:24,270 --> 02:28:27,060 about the situation with you and your inability to get your 2470 02:28:27,060 --> 02:28:32,850 passport approved to go to Europe on the last show. And 2471 02:28:32,910 --> 02:28:36,060 everybody was was afraid. How are they what are they doing 2472 02:28:36,060 --> 02:28:41,400 differently? Because if you look at the UK, the UK has really 2473 02:28:41,700 --> 02:28:45,390 what four kingdoms has got Northern Ireland, Wales, and 2474 02:28:45,390 --> 02:28:50,640 Scotland, and and England, Britain, England, England. And 2475 02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:55,980 so you have these four groups, they all speak English. And they 2476 02:28:55,980 --> 02:28:59,850 can't get along with each other. You take good transfer that to 2477 02:28:59,850 --> 02:29:05,610 the EU, where you have the 26 countries or 27. And they all 2478 02:29:05,610 --> 02:29:10,470 speak different languages. They never got along with each other 2479 02:29:10,470 --> 02:29:13,620 historically, ever much the same way the Scottson though, and the 2480 02:29:13,620 --> 02:29:17,280 English never got along with each other. But that seems to be 2481 02:29:17,280 --> 02:29:21,900 working better in terms of this in terms of whatever system they 2482 02:29:21,900 --> 02:29:24,810 have, overseeing the whole thing which is nothing close to a 2483 02:29:24,810 --> 02:29:29,010 democracy. And so it's a it's a form of bureaucratic dictators 2484 02:29:29,010 --> 02:29:33,060 of bureaucratic dictatorship for all practical purposes run out 2485 02:29:33,060 --> 02:29:33,750 of Brussels 2486 02:29:33,780 --> 02:29:37,890 based on lies that sovereignty would remain. But once you have 2487 02:29:37,890 --> 02:29:43,620 people's money once you have the banks we have the fiscal union 2488 02:29:43,650 --> 02:29:49,080 they got the banks under control. That's it. That's it. 2489 02:29:50,880 --> 02:29:53,340 We got to move along because we're running long today. I want 2490 02:29:53,340 --> 02:29:57,570 to be too long. I do need to play just a little bit of Well, 2491 02:29:57,570 --> 02:30:03,930 here's the Jamie began with the Hey Have you read that? This is 2492 02:30:03,930 --> 02:30:08,310 not necessarily fake news. But it is so incorrect that I might 2493 02:30:08,310 --> 02:30:13,560 as well classify it as such on Fox. I told you many weeks ago 2494 02:30:13,560 --> 02:30:17,280 that the Clinton Global months ago actually, the Clinton Global 2495 02:30:17,280 --> 02:30:22,080 Initiative is shutting down and out of Bill Clinton's own mouth. 2496 02:30:22,230 --> 02:30:24,840 Yeah, the sponsors are going, you know, they got other things 2497 02:30:24,840 --> 02:30:27,600 to do. Yes, we know where the money's going. It's going to 2498 02:30:27,630 --> 02:30:30,030 Obama's My Brother's Keeper Foundation, which I think at 2499 02:30:30,030 --> 02:30:32,940 this point has about $200 million committed. That's why 2500 02:30:32,940 --> 02:30:36,720 he's staying in Washington. And it was well known that this was 2501 02:30:36,720 --> 02:30:41,010 going to happen. But somehow Fox is convoluted this the Clinton 2502 02:30:41,010 --> 02:30:43,770 Global Initiative into the Clinton Foundation and they come 2503 02:30:43,770 --> 02:30:46,470 up with this report, which is really crap. We 2504 02:30:46,469 --> 02:30:49,979 begin with the controversial Clinton Global Initiative. 2505 02:30:49,979 --> 02:30:53,969 Remember that? Well, they're closing the doors for good. This 2506 02:30:53,969 --> 02:30:56,579 comes after Hillary Clinton's crushing loss in the 2507 02:30:56,579 --> 02:30:59,879 presidential election this November and months after 2508 02:30:59,879 --> 02:31:03,719 WikiLeaks uncovered emails that reportedly showed corrupt 2509 02:31:03,719 --> 02:31:07,709 management helping donors get political access, rather than 2510 02:31:07,709 --> 02:31:10,799 focusing on charitable work around the world. Employee 2511 02:31:10,799 --> 02:31:13,979 layoffs take effect in April factcheck. False Yeah, 2512 02:31:14,010 --> 02:31:17,310 that's incorrect. It was not about the Clinton Global 2513 02:31:17,310 --> 02:31:21,720 Initiative was about the Clinton Foundation. And I think that 2514 02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:25,800 what you'll see now in these in these urban myths, you know, 2515 02:31:25,800 --> 02:31:30,780 like, Assad used chemical weapons, which has been 2516 02:31:30,780 --> 02:31:34,470 disproven. It'll be Oh, they shut it down, though. I mean, 2517 02:31:34,470 --> 02:31:37,380 people will actually believe that and even are already 2518 02:31:37,380 --> 02:31:40,680 believing and even crazier. Although we still not surfaced. 2519 02:31:40,800 --> 02:31:43,500 Former CEO of the Clinton Foundation, now Global 2520 02:31:43,500 --> 02:31:47,310 Initiative Foundation, by Erik Braverman apparently, is going 2521 02:31:47,310 --> 02:31:51,720 to work for the Google nonprofit, which is run by Eric 2522 02:31:51,720 --> 02:31:55,080 Schmidt. Now we have not seen the guy. We don't know if he's 2523 02:31:55,080 --> 02:31:57,780 actually alive, but that is where he will be turning up. 2524 02:31:57,810 --> 02:31:59,070 Apparently. It'd 2525 02:31:59,069 --> 02:32:01,979 be at the lunch room over at Google just eating chowing down. 2526 02:32:03,000 --> 02:32:06,450 I'm gonna show my mood but donate to no agenda. Imagine all 2527 02:32:06,450 --> 02:32:08,970 the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun. 2528 02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:20,400 We do have a few people to thank including Dame Karen of Cimarron 2529 02:32:20,400 --> 02:32:25,860 Hill, Colorado Springs, Colorado $119.17. With a note I should 2530 02:32:25,860 --> 02:32:29,550 read. Today's very special episode donation will be the buy 2531 02:32:29,550 --> 02:32:33,990 by Obama donation commemorating his last day in office. 2532 02:32:34,350 --> 02:32:38,820 Hopefully the White House door smacks him on the way out of a 2533 02:32:38,820 --> 02:32:42,600 bye bye Obama jingle request of Obama. No, no, no mix dealer's 2534 02:32:42,600 --> 02:32:46,740 choice Obama you might die and Thanks, Obama. Yeah, for doing 2535 02:32:46,800 --> 02:32:49,920 it. Thanks for doing what you do. And you put that at the end. 2536 02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:51,990 It could be chuck it in Yeah, 2537 02:32:52,020 --> 02:32:56,790 I'll do the Cucaracha that's the one you like to do. Yes. 2538 02:32:56,969 --> 02:33:02,909 Brett Kerr Hoffer in Aurora, Illinois. $112.35. I was hitting 2539 02:33:02,909 --> 02:33:05,399 the mouse by a friend Joe a while ago I've been meaning to 2540 02:33:05,399 --> 02:33:10,829 donate. Him He says you harp on me for being a douche bag will 2541 02:33:10,829 --> 02:33:17,909 no longer good. Benjamin verde Chapman $101 and the Kluber 2542 02:33:17,909 --> 02:33:20,309 boobs Boobs. Boobs. Boobs boobs, 2543 02:33:20,339 --> 02:33:24,209 boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs. boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs. 2544 02:33:25,349 --> 02:33:31,109 boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs, boobs. Boobs Boobs. Boobs boobs 2545 02:33:31,109 --> 02:33:31,499 now 2546 02:33:31,860 --> 02:33:34,650 there was no boob link that I know of in the last newsletter 2547 02:33:34,650 --> 02:33:34,830 but 2548 02:33:34,829 --> 02:33:36,869 catching on man the boobs are catching on. 2549 02:33:38,370 --> 02:33:42,600 Sir blam was got a birthday coming up late 2550 02:33:42,600 --> 02:33:45,480 oh wait and I will mention if you have not seen the 2551 02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:49,770 newsletter, dig it up. You had a really great piece in there 2552 02:33:49,770 --> 02:33:52,410 about using POP money which we don't have to go into explaining 2553 02:33:52,410 --> 02:33:55,350 how it works. But I've also heard all the kids use all the 2554 02:33:55,350 --> 02:33:57,870 cool kids use POP money now everyone's using POP money Venmo 2555 02:33:57,870 --> 02:34:00,180 was cool and Venmo is out now it's all pop money 2556 02:34:00,870 --> 02:34:04,500 pop money it turns out I would just mention this part. I did 2557 02:34:04,500 --> 02:34:07,380 get a notice today somebody put some money in pop money came in 2558 02:34:07,380 --> 02:34:09,450 the email which I would complain that didn't happen before you 2559 02:34:09,450 --> 02:34:13,980 have to go look it up. And it was also done through a credit 2560 02:34:13,980 --> 02:34:16,110 union a lot of credit unions appear on 2561 02:34:16,110 --> 02:34:20,640 this load log money credit union I love my credit union credit 2562 02:34:20,639 --> 02:34:23,579 unions look in your credit union system and see if they they've 2563 02:34:23,579 --> 02:34:26,099 actually done a deal like most a lot of credit unions have done 2564 02:34:26,099 --> 02:34:29,969 this with pop money for money transfers. Yeah. 2565 02:34:30,930 --> 02:34:34,260 That does yours. Look I'm sure it does. I haven't diamond 2566 02:34:34,260 --> 02:34:35,910 checked. It's very interesting. 2567 02:34:35,940 --> 02:34:40,050 Good dev work by the executive management of the pop money up 2568 02:34:40,050 --> 02:34:42,750 good for Yeah, very good work. Love it. Sir. Roger boots, 2569 02:34:42,750 --> 02:34:47,100 Mechanicsville, Iowa 808 Christopher trop Sturgis, 2570 02:34:47,400 --> 02:34:54,060 Michigan 808. And D Carruthers. Tumwater Washington 808 And she 2571 02:34:54,060 --> 02:34:57,180 sent a card she's got a birthday card to Keith Carlisle, but she 2572 02:34:57,180 --> 02:35:00,540 sent his birth not a birthday card but a one was cards a 2573 02:35:00,540 --> 02:35:04,020 greeting card which was appreciated in the mail with a 2574 02:35:04,020 --> 02:35:07,680 check and she's guy says hello from Washington where the flu 2575 02:35:07,680 --> 02:35:11,730 shot reminders are abundant. Thank you for helping me keep my 2576 02:35:11,730 --> 02:35:15,300 sanity. They send a birthday shout out and it's just a loving 2577 02:35:15,300 --> 02:35:20,430 light. And then she has these some sort of sticky letters it 2578 02:35:20,430 --> 02:35:26,220 says in the morning love Di Di for Diana in the morning and 2579 02:35:26,220 --> 02:35:30,900 these are like spongy letters that are covered with glitter. I 2580 02:35:30,900 --> 02:35:33,150 don't know where she got these but she obviously goes to one of 2581 02:35:33,150 --> 02:35:41,730 those crafts stores. Jill Holly Hobby Lobby Launch Pad Michaels? 2582 02:35:42,150 --> 02:35:49,410 Pat till Philly in Montreal Quebec 7777 en en en E and 2583 02:35:49,410 --> 02:35:55,620 Larson in Riverhead, New Zealand. 7175 7175 is left hacks 2584 02:35:55,620 --> 02:36:00,540 are for tits. I'm a little crude so boob is not in my donation 2585 02:36:00,540 --> 02:36:10,950 vocabulary Hello, hello, sir Rick, in Arlington, Washington 2586 02:36:10,950 --> 02:36:16,320 6933 Robert Gusa gusta oosik Double nickels on the dime along 2587 02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:20,400 with Dean Roker parts I know he's in the UK Dean is Aaron 2588 02:36:20,400 --> 02:36:24,420 Lambert and Tumwater. Washington 5433. Sir Kevin Payne in 2589 02:36:24,420 --> 02:36:29,460 Richmond, Virginia 5432. Sir Dunford in are marked down for 2590 02:36:29,460 --> 02:36:34,740 in Waco, Texas. 50 MIGUEZ magotteaux In Berwyn, Illinois. 2591 02:36:34,740 --> 02:36:40,020 50. Audrey Simes si mes in St. Louis, Missouri 2592 02:36:40,050 --> 02:36:43,860 as a douchebag call out let me see douchebag and birthday shout 2593 02:36:43,860 --> 02:36:47,460 out to the love of my life. Charlie Sirpa who I successfully 2594 02:36:47,460 --> 02:36:50,910 hit in the mouth. A couple that no agendas together stays 2595 02:36:50,910 --> 02:36:53,910 together. Thank you for your amazing deconstruction of the 2596 02:36:53,910 --> 02:36:57,090 media and for helping us make sense. Okay, so douchebag for 2597 02:36:57,090 --> 02:37:00,180 Charlie surprise. There you go. 2598 02:37:00,270 --> 02:37:03,240 Is she on the birthday? Listen, I remember seeing an Audrey. 2599 02:37:04,050 --> 02:37:08,760 I'll check. On where with the list. Yes on the list. The 2600 02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:12,540 following people or $50 donors name and location, Linda McCoy, 2601 02:37:13,260 --> 02:37:18,990 McElroy, Linda McEvoy in Dublin, Ireland. We're talking about 2602 02:37:18,990 --> 02:37:24,270 that. Greg dial in parts unknown and Machado Hodge dry in 2603 02:37:24,270 --> 02:37:28,740 Danville, Virginia. John camp and antlers Oklahoma favorite 2604 02:37:28,740 --> 02:37:33,300 town name. Jason Clegg in San Diego, California Kevin Porter 2605 02:37:33,300 --> 02:37:37,860 in Beavercreek, Ohio, Andrew Goseck in Greensboro, North 2606 02:37:37,860 --> 02:37:44,310 Carolina, Sean Smith and Ashlyn Tennessee, Brian noni in Smyrna, 2607 02:37:44,310 --> 02:37:47,640 Georgia. Michael gates in Colorado Springs, Colorado, 2608 02:37:47,670 --> 02:37:52,800 Israel Casarez Parts Unknown Scott lavender in Montgomery, 2609 02:37:52,800 --> 02:37:59,070 Texas, Joel de ruin, USA Bill LeClaire slowly I turned in 2610 02:37:59,070 --> 02:38:04,020 Riverdale mass in Michigan. ANDREW HARRISON and Gravenhurst 2611 02:38:04,020 --> 02:38:08,340 on terlato 50s today Yeah, Paul Rudkin in Canada somewhere, IRC 2612 02:38:08,340 --> 02:38:14,970 and we're seeing scabby Canada. See, I think, Well, anyway, 2613 02:38:14,970 --> 02:38:20,880 Paul, sorry. Beaumont Proudfoot in holidays. Holidays point New 2614 02:38:20,880 --> 02:38:24,240 South Wales, Australia. You run into him at the meetup. Matthew 2615 02:38:24,240 --> 02:38:29,340 Mongan in Baltimore, Maryland. And last but not least, Benjamin 2616 02:38:29,340 --> 02:38:32,700 Wilson in Hummelstown, Pennsylvania and Susan Johnson 2617 02:38:32,700 --> 02:38:37,440 in Newberg, Oregon. Cn is China John. Oh, okay. Oh, that's 2618 02:38:37,440 --> 02:38:39,600 right. Yeah, he's in China. Yeah. China, 2619 02:38:39,810 --> 02:38:47,040 China, China. Very good. I have two quick notes to read. First 2620 02:38:47,040 --> 02:38:50,640 from Sir Rory stone. This is a night in need. He says in 2621 02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:54,390 massive need of job karma ASAP due to being unemployed since 2622 02:38:54,390 --> 02:38:57,900 September basically can't afford to donate currently but will be 2623 02:38:57,900 --> 02:39:01,260 the best donor in South Dakota. Episode One listening and 2624 02:39:01,260 --> 02:39:04,110 growing older with two of you has been very rewarding as a 2625 02:39:04,110 --> 02:39:07,320 producer listener to Rory stone. So let me give that to him right 2626 02:39:07,320 --> 02:39:09,900 now. This would be jobs karma, 2627 02:39:10,170 --> 02:39:15,300 jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 2628 02:39:17,219 --> 02:39:18,869 You've got karma. 2629 02:39:19,950 --> 02:39:25,770 And I got another big box. Here the crackpot condo from our 2630 02:39:25,770 --> 02:39:29,430 friend Duggar it's very interesting. The box was filled 2631 02:39:29,430 --> 02:39:33,510 with he said okay the cookies he put some home baked chocolate 2632 02:39:33,510 --> 02:39:36,810 chip cookies in there are not repeat not magical, just your 2633 02:39:36,810 --> 02:39:40,020 basic chocolate chip and sugar cookie. The flight calculators 2634 02:39:40,020 --> 02:39:43,080 he put it in very interesting box to flight calculators which 2635 02:39:43,080 --> 02:39:47,820 are kind of like a slide rule with extended bits on it so you 2636 02:39:47,820 --> 02:39:50,880 can calculate crosswind components, etc. which I haven't 2637 02:39:50,910 --> 02:39:53,070 I don't even have them anymore but I did learn how to use them 2638 02:39:53,070 --> 02:39:55,590 when I was flying. He found those out they were kind of 2639 02:39:55,590 --> 02:40:00,510 funny mini deck of cards and he says the mushrooms and As a bag 2640 02:40:00,510 --> 02:40:06,900 of shrooms are magical. So always start small. I love Oh, 2641 02:40:06,900 --> 02:40:10,530 wow, our producer just sent me drugs. Very interesting. 2642 02:40:10,560 --> 02:40:13,830 He sent me a box too without the drugs. You didn't get shrooms? 2643 02:40:14,280 --> 02:40:15,510 No, no, no. Why 2644 02:40:15,510 --> 02:40:16,500 did you get in the box? 2645 02:40:16,859 --> 02:40:18,899 I got a Mennonite cookbook. 2646 02:40:20,610 --> 02:40:23,850 I love our producers, man. Fantastic. Well, I will try 2647 02:40:23,850 --> 02:40:27,840 them. I've never done true. I will try them. Not on a prep 2648 02:40:27,840 --> 02:40:28,110 night. 2649 02:40:29,220 --> 02:40:33,870 Yeah. Some day actually, after a Sunday show on your board might 2650 02:40:33,870 --> 02:40:34,800 not be a bad time. 2651 02:40:35,880 --> 02:40:40,800 No, because I'm so tired is perfect. How do you know have 2652 02:40:40,800 --> 02:40:40,980 you ever 2653 02:40:40,979 --> 02:40:43,529 done shrooms? I don't talk about things like that. 2654 02:40:43,560 --> 02:40:47,190 Okay, thank you all so much for your support of our program. The 2655 02:40:47,190 --> 02:40:51,570 best podcast in the universe. $50 or more of course, under 50 2656 02:40:51,570 --> 02:40:54,210 is usually for reasons of anonymity, but we have a ton of 2657 02:40:54,300 --> 02:40:57,150 great subscriptions that you can contribute to the program and 2658 02:40:57,150 --> 02:41:00,090 please keep all of the artwork, the jingles, the clips, the 2659 02:41:00,090 --> 02:41:03,000 information, keep it coming. That is why it works true 2660 02:41:03,000 --> 02:41:05,700 participation media value for value and you have another show 2661 02:41:05,700 --> 02:41:10,500 coming up on Sunday volterra.org/n A. 2662 02:41:17,610 --> 02:41:20,070 And today, we congratulate your herb lamb celebrating on the 2663 02:41:20,070 --> 02:41:23,550 21st of January D Carruthers says Happy Birthday to Keith 2664 02:41:23,880 --> 02:41:27,450 Carlisle he celebrated on the 16th and Audrey Symes as happy 2665 02:41:27,450 --> 02:41:30,180 birthday for the love of her life. And well he's now a 2666 02:41:30,180 --> 02:41:33,000 douchebag Charlie surprise. He celebrated yesterday happy 2667 02:41:33,000 --> 02:41:35,100 birthday from all your buddies here the best podcast in the 2668 02:41:35,100 --> 02:41:40,740 universe. And no nights no nights, John, we have no nights 2669 02:41:40,740 --> 02:41:43,800 no nothing. I have a question for you though. I would actually 2670 02:41:43,800 --> 02:41:48,570 make an observation. As we move into the Depression era, this is 2671 02:41:48,570 --> 02:41:51,450 a setup for your book, of course. Yes. As we move into the 2672 02:41:51,450 --> 02:41:54,060 Depression era, we have depression food, we've obviously 2673 02:41:54,060 --> 02:41:57,630 we have the bugs, we have mac and cheese, but I've noticed 2674 02:41:57,630 --> 02:42:01,260 something else that's been happening in Austin. And whether 2675 02:42:01,260 --> 02:42:06,420 you make an appointment for you to get your hair cut, whether 2676 02:42:06,420 --> 02:42:09,660 you make an appointment at a restaurant, reservation at a 2677 02:42:09,660 --> 02:42:14,370 restaurant, more and more companies are saying, yeah, it's 2678 02:42:14,400 --> 02:42:19,800 hairdressers. Yeah, I need your credit card as a deposit. When 2679 02:42:19,800 --> 02:42:21,900 did this become trend? 2680 02:42:23,880 --> 02:42:30,360 Well, I don't know that this is going on here at all. I know 2681 02:42:30,360 --> 02:42:33,630 there are a minimum number of restaurants that require this 2682 02:42:33,630 --> 02:42:37,080 but they're very high end. And you're expected to drop like 2683 02:42:37,080 --> 02:42:38,910 $300 they had at least 2684 02:42:39,090 --> 02:42:41,340 these are just regular restaurants. They regular 2685 02:42:41,340 --> 02:42:44,070 restaurants, hairdressers, and hairdressers 2686 02:42:44,070 --> 02:42:46,290 does not I'm telling you. There's not no but nothing like 2687 02:42:46,290 --> 02:42:47,820 that. This is a local phenomenon. 2688 02:42:48,090 --> 02:42:54,450 And Christina went to get her claws and paws yet the manicure 2689 02:42:54,930 --> 02:42:59,100 credit card deposit in Europe, right here when she was here. 2690 02:42:59,130 --> 02:43:03,000 Okay, just again as a local phenomenon. You got some crooks 2691 02:43:03,000 --> 02:43:06,090 there that are taken advantage of these people are goofballs, 2692 02:43:06,090 --> 02:43:08,160 that are just making reservations just to kill their 2693 02:43:08,160 --> 02:43:08,730 business. 2694 02:43:09,330 --> 02:43:13,410 Well, I'd like to know if any of your business Wargo maybe maybe 2695 02:43:13,410 --> 02:43:17,400 other people have this in their town. I don't know. I watched 2696 02:43:17,400 --> 02:43:23,100 the game with Dallas. Holy crap. I'm glad I watched that game in 2697 02:43:23,100 --> 02:43:27,330 a great game. Oh my god. The end. That was fantastic. Yes, 2698 02:43:27,360 --> 02:43:32,400 Aaron Rodgers is kick ass. It was. It was very exciting game. 2699 02:43:32,400 --> 02:43:37,350 I like that a lot. And since we only have four teams left, we 2700 02:43:37,350 --> 02:43:40,290 have the New England Patriots versus the Steelers and then we 2701 02:43:40,290 --> 02:43:43,710 have Green Bay Packers versus the Atlanta Falcons. I think it 2702 02:43:43,710 --> 02:43:45,990 is time for us to determine who will be the winner of the Super 2703 02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:48,870 Bowl based upon no agenda process of elimination 2704 02:43:50,550 --> 02:43:54,210 geopolitical geopolitical. Yes. And I think I know 2705 02:43:54,660 --> 02:43:59,370 Okay, cuz I haven't no clue. Well, and you are better at this 2706 02:43:59,370 --> 02:44:02,340 than I am. You have beaten me May head to head a couple of 2707 02:44:02,340 --> 02:44:02,760 times. 2708 02:44:02,819 --> 02:44:09,719 So from a geopolitical standpoint. Excuse me. We I know 2709 02:44:09,719 --> 02:44:13,919 what the end has to be. It has to be the Steelers versus the 2710 02:44:13,919 --> 02:44:20,549 Packers. And the reason for that is both Pittsburgh and Wisconsin 2711 02:44:20,549 --> 02:44:23,459 Green Bay. were incredibly supportive of Trump. They 2712 02:44:23,459 --> 02:44:27,749 flipped and I am going to say the Green Bay Packers take it 2713 02:44:27,749 --> 02:44:28,649 based on this. 2714 02:44:29,430 --> 02:44:32,820 Well, the Green Bay Packers can manage to get past Atlanta which 2715 02:44:32,820 --> 02:44:35,730 is not a sure thing by any means. Because Atlanta is a 2716 02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:39,810 better team. But these things they could because because 2717 02:44:40,200 --> 02:44:43,230 you're basing it on skill. I'm basing it on it being rigged. 2718 02:44:43,559 --> 02:44:46,679 I know but yes, well if you're basically I'm being rigged, they 2719 02:44:46,679 --> 02:44:49,649 have the excuse that because here's the they have been 2720 02:44:49,649 --> 02:44:52,979 running a I have to give you this. They've been running a 2721 02:44:53,309 --> 02:44:58,829 kind of a booty call it not a litany but a storyline they've 2722 02:44:58,829 --> 02:45:02,609 been running the storyline. line on Aaron Rodgers. He's come on 2723 02:45:02,609 --> 02:45:05,789 in the second half. This is how many games in a row they've won. 2724 02:45:05,789 --> 02:45:09,419 He's the best rower ever. He's giving you a very accurate 2725 02:45:09,419 --> 02:45:12,809 passer he's of everybody likes him. He looks a little like Paul 2726 02:45:12,809 --> 02:45:17,969 Ryan is one thing after another and so they've been running this 2727 02:45:17,969 --> 02:45:20,549 storyline. They have not been running storylines on anybody 2728 02:45:20,549 --> 02:45:25,739 else. Except Dallas. And Dallas was beaten by this guy. Yeah. 2729 02:45:25,769 --> 02:45:29,939 And so I think you might be onto something. It's a possibility 2730 02:45:29,939 --> 02:45:33,149 when let's put it this way. I wouldn't be stunned if that 2731 02:45:33,149 --> 02:45:35,069 happened. Right. But I who 2732 02:45:35,069 --> 02:45:39,779 was the who was the the catcher who caught that pass and kept it 2733 02:45:39,779 --> 02:45:40,439 in bounds? 2734 02:45:40,920 --> 02:45:42,900 That I think is cookers one of them. Oh, man, 2735 02:45:42,899 --> 02:45:43,769 that was great. 2736 02:45:44,250 --> 02:45:46,590 I really that was a pretty phenomenal Yeah, 2737 02:45:46,620 --> 02:45:54,870 yeah. A follow up from our to to the head category. I looked it 2738 02:45:54,870 --> 02:46:00,090 up. It was October 2014. That we played a series of clips from 2739 02:46:00,120 --> 02:46:04,530 Udo cotta of build sometimes 2740 02:46:04,560 --> 02:46:09,030 the intelligence agencies they come to your office and want you 2741 02:46:09,030 --> 02:46:13,050 to write an article I give you an example not from strange 2742 02:46:13,080 --> 02:46:16,290 other journalists from me myself, German foreign 2743 02:46:16,290 --> 02:46:21,240 intelligence, bunda Snapfish and DNS. It is just a sister 2744 02:46:21,240 --> 02:46:24,090 organization of the Central Intelligence Agency. It was 2745 02:46:24,090 --> 02:46:27,720 founded by the American intelligence agency. So one day, 2746 02:46:28,440 --> 02:46:32,040 the BND this German foreign intelligence agency came to my 2747 02:46:32,040 --> 02:46:35,130 office at the Frankfurter Allgemeine and algemeiner So 2748 02:46:35,130 --> 02:46:39,840 they wanted me to write an article about Libya and about 2749 02:46:40,050 --> 02:46:45,420 colonial Muammar Gaddafi. I had no I had absolutely no secret 2750 02:46:45,420 --> 02:46:51,240 informations regarding Colin, no Muammar Gaddafi, and Libya, but 2751 02:46:51,240 --> 02:46:56,100 they gave me all these secret informations. And they just 2752 02:46:56,100 --> 02:47:00,600 wanted me to write to to sign the article was by name. I did 2753 02:47:00,600 --> 02:47:05,070 that. But it was an article that was published in the Frankfurt 2754 02:47:05,130 --> 02:47:09,780 algemeiner that originally came from the Buddha's unofficial 2755 02:47:09,780 --> 02:47:13,590 deeds from the German foreign intelligence agency. So do you 2756 02:47:13,590 --> 02:47:17,070 really think that this is journalism? intelligence 2757 02:47:17,100 --> 02:47:19,320 agencies writing articles? 2758 02:47:20,309 --> 02:47:23,099 By coincidence, I think two or three shows ago you sent me an 2759 02:47:23,099 --> 02:47:25,529 email saying, Hey, this is good. This is good. Let's talk about 2760 02:47:25,529 --> 02:47:28,919 this guy as we lead in talking about media and how corrupt they 2761 02:47:28,919 --> 02:47:35,969 are. This guy died. He's dead watch. Yeah. A few days before 2762 02:47:35,969 --> 02:47:37,829 it's 57th birthday heart attack. 2763 02:47:40,440 --> 02:47:43,320 He was probably told not to mention any of this. Of course, 2764 02:47:43,320 --> 02:47:47,430 he was told not to mention any of that. At heart attack, heart 2765 02:47:47,430 --> 02:47:49,350 failure, actually, they say heart failure. 2766 02:47:49,920 --> 02:47:53,550 Yeah, Bill. prussic acid in the face. 57 years old. 2767 02:47:54,960 --> 02:47:57,240 Beautiful. I also Roger Stone is 2768 02:47:57,240 --> 02:48:00,240 proud of you out there. They're gonna use this material. Yes. 2769 02:48:00,480 --> 02:48:03,180 You have to if they tell you to shut up, I guess you gotta shut 2770 02:48:03,180 --> 02:48:03,390 up. 2771 02:48:05,010 --> 02:48:09,780 Certainly avoid small aviation and all that stuff. It's hot 2772 02:48:09,780 --> 02:48:15,000 tubs and hot tubs. One quickie just a funny little entre Mall. 2773 02:48:16,470 --> 02:48:19,890 This was a question that was asked during Janet Yellen, our 2774 02:48:19,890 --> 02:48:23,070 Chair of the fed the Federal Reserve by one of the 2775 02:48:23,070 --> 02:48:27,180 journalists in the room, and I just I think I fell over when I 2776 02:48:27,180 --> 02:48:27,390 heard 2777 02:48:27,389 --> 02:48:33,989 this it's my proud duty to convey the questions that I've 2778 02:48:33,989 --> 02:48:34,769 been handed 2779 02:48:39,960 --> 02:48:42,720 my proud duty to ask you the questions that I've been asked 2780 02:48:42,749 --> 02:48:49,709 this Yes, ask it oh man. And it's just a modern world we live 2781 02:48:49,709 --> 02:48:49,949 in 2782 02:48:51,330 --> 02:48:55,470 we have time is short we're live we're almost near the tail 2783 02:48:55,470 --> 02:48:57,990 I got a bunch of stuff I can I can push this off because it's 2784 02:48:57,990 --> 02:48:58,470 really good. 2785 02:48:58,500 --> 02:49:00,990 I'd like to do tech news on Sunday if you don't mind why 2786 02:49:00,990 --> 02:49:01,980 don't do tech news on sound 2787 02:49:01,980 --> 02:49:03,840 you want to do tech news on Sunday you want to because I 2788 02:49:03,840 --> 02:49:06,090 have this Samantha Power stuff that I can move forward? 2789 02:49:07,979 --> 02:49:10,949 Let me see if I Okay, I have some I have some Well the funny 2790 02:49:10,949 --> 02:49:15,359 clips from the confirmation hearings we can we can do on 2791 02:49:15,359 --> 02:49:17,939 Sunday that'll that'll stay good. There's so much material 2792 02:49:17,939 --> 02:49:21,509 that almost no one has what we have but some very funny stuff. 2793 02:49:22,709 --> 02:49:28,319 Okay, let's do some tech news. Today phones a landline and the 2794 02:49:28,319 --> 02:49:37,829 phone should be made out of Bakelite. Night Gianluca so 2795 02:49:37,830 --> 02:49:42,060 we started off the dad an hour late Yes, because of this is not 2796 02:49:42,060 --> 02:49:44,910 really as much tech news as it is tech complaining. 2797 02:49:45,120 --> 02:49:49,410 Well, let me start. Start this off. By with last night 2798 02:49:49,410 --> 02:49:54,330 actually, two days ago. A your pal and my pal Andrew Horowitz 2799 02:49:54,330 --> 02:49:58,140 said hey, I brew. I'd really love to try streaming. D H 2800 02:49:58,140 --> 02:50:01,290 unplugged on Tuesday when you guys were Record it. It's okay, 2801 02:50:01,290 --> 02:50:03,900 no problem. I'll set you up. So I set him up and you know, talk 2802 02:50:03,900 --> 02:50:06,810 to void zero said invoice it, ma'am. We can set it all up for 2803 02:50:06,810 --> 02:50:10,020 him. But just give me your credentials, login. And then you 2804 02:50:10,020 --> 02:50:12,630 can test it out and see if you like it. So I set it up with 2805 02:50:12,630 --> 02:50:15,600 him, and it'd be over the phone, that's okay, now connect and 2806 02:50:15,600 --> 02:50:17,880 you're connected, sir. And you couldn't connect. Like, that's 2807 02:50:17,880 --> 02:50:20,880 very odd. And I'm doing this over the phone. So it's, um, 2808 02:50:20,880 --> 02:50:24,570 well, let me try. And I can't connect. And of course, I've 2809 02:50:24,570 --> 02:50:27,870 changed nothing. I've changed nothing in my setup that I know 2810 02:50:27,870 --> 02:50:30,780 of, I've rebooted but haven't done anything else. And I can't 2811 02:50:30,780 --> 02:50:35,340 connect. And so and now it's, it's like 1am and void zero, and 2812 02:50:35,340 --> 02:50:38,250 I ping him he's coming in today, Look, man, it's too late for 2813 02:50:38,250 --> 02:50:42,120 you. We'll do it tomorrow. So yesterday, for almost five 2814 02:50:42,120 --> 02:50:46,440 hours, we were trying to figure this out. And here's the crate. 2815 02:50:46,440 --> 02:50:51,930 So essentially, what my computer has to go through a port has to 2816 02:50:51,930 --> 02:50:56,880 connect to our, our streaming server, and and then initiate 2817 02:50:56,880 --> 02:51:00,870 and then you send the stream, and it would not connect. Now I 2818 02:51:00,870 --> 02:51:04,560 could tell that into the port. And we were using TCP dump, you 2819 02:51:04,560 --> 02:51:07,800 know, to see if, if there's anything showed up. And I would 2820 02:51:07,800 --> 02:51:13,470 tell that in no problem, the same port with shoutcast. It I 2821 02:51:13,470 --> 02:51:17,670 couldn't even get it to register TCP dump on my own computer. In 2822 02:51:17,670 --> 02:51:22,290 other words, I was trying to start a stream and with software 2823 02:51:22,290 --> 02:51:27,210 that is available and approved. As far as I know. It's in the 2824 02:51:27,210 --> 02:51:30,510 App Store. So you know, it's allowed to run within the apple 2825 02:51:30,510 --> 02:51:35,730 security environment, which is where it gets kind of weird. But 2826 02:51:35,730 --> 02:51:39,330 you couldn't it was not the program was not sending packets, 2827 02:51:39,660 --> 02:51:43,590 even to my Ethernet card. So and we've tried every we're 2828 02:51:43,590 --> 02:51:48,240 tunneling through SSH, and we're and he keeps saying it must be 2829 02:51:48,240 --> 02:51:51,840 your Mac, you know that? Come on, man. I didn't upgrade. The 2830 02:51:51,840 --> 02:51:56,550 last system update was December 30. Well, turns out that Apple 2831 02:51:56,550 --> 02:52:03,030 has decided and not really mentioned that they are refusing 2832 02:52:03,060 --> 02:52:09,660 anything that uses https 0.9. And they're actually sandboxing 2833 02:52:09,660 --> 02:52:13,470 it. And I don't know when they snuck this in because it didn't 2834 02:52:13,500 --> 02:52:17,340 happen to me after the December 30 update. But shoutcast 2835 02:52:17,340 --> 02:52:20,670 specifically uses HTTP 0.9. 2836 02:52:21,030 --> 02:52:24,090 This is interesting, because horror was also uses a Mac 2837 02:52:25,050 --> 02:52:28,170 it? Well, he would know, he would know that it gets more 2838 02:52:28,170 --> 02:52:31,290 interesting because he was using a Windows machine to do that. 2839 02:52:31,380 --> 02:52:36,150 And I think Windows has now also sandboxes 0.9. But it's pretty 2840 02:52:36,150 --> 02:52:41,340 much not even mentioned. i They I guess they don't think it's 2841 02:52:41,340 --> 02:52:44,400 important. To be honest, the shoutcast protocol, it's old. 2842 02:52:44,400 --> 02:52:47,580 icecast is kind of where you want it to be these days. I 2843 02:52:47,580 --> 02:52:51,600 don't the software I'm using that I like using only support 2844 02:52:51,600 --> 02:52:56,010 shoutcast. But I don't think they ever thought about that. 2845 02:52:56,010 --> 02:53:00,090 They just said I 0.9 Screw it, it is actually affected people 2846 02:53:00,090 --> 02:53:04,590 in the reverse. If you're using Safari, for instance, and you 2847 02:53:04,590 --> 02:53:08,640 want to listen to a shoutcast stream, you can't get it in for 2848 02:53:08,640 --> 02:53:11,850 the same reason you cannot listen to a shoutcast stream, it 2849 02:53:11,850 --> 02:53:15,960 has to be icecast and this is just completely undocumented. 2850 02:53:18,690 --> 02:53:23,850 Oh, yeah, Pa indeed. I put a couple of links in the show 2851 02:53:23,850 --> 02:53:25,770 notes if people want to take a look and see exactly what 2852 02:53:25,770 --> 02:53:29,550 happened eight, nine or six.no agenda notes.com. And then this 2853 02:53:29,550 --> 02:53:35,280 morning. I every morning before the show I reboot the router. 2854 02:53:35,490 --> 02:53:37,890 So before this morning, there'll be for this money you've already 2855 02:53:37,890 --> 02:53:42,840 wasted 567 hours. God knows how much time Yeah. Okay, just to 2856 02:53:42,840 --> 02:53:45,810 show you how much time you have to use to make anything work. 2857 02:53:45,990 --> 02:53:49,950 And boy, were we happy when we figured it out. Like holy crap, 2858 02:53:50,040 --> 02:53:54,450 that was insane. I mean, checking firewalls, all kinds of 2859 02:53:54,450 --> 02:54:00,060 stuff. Then this morning, I reboot my cable modem I reboot 2860 02:54:00,060 --> 02:54:04,680 the computer. And for routing internally in the Mac, I use a 2861 02:54:04,680 --> 02:54:08,580 great product called a loopback which allows you to create 2862 02:54:08,580 --> 02:54:12,780 virtual devices and that's actually how I currently string 2863 02:54:12,780 --> 02:54:15,870 everything together to make it work and Mac Apple is pretty 2864 02:54:15,870 --> 02:54:20,040 good mac OS were their core audio. But I did not know that 2865 02:54:20,040 --> 02:54:24,690 this loopback probe product from Rogue Amiga had install 2866 02:54:24,690 --> 02:54:29,070 automatic updates on that I've never looked at that. And so I'm 2867 02:54:29,070 --> 02:54:31,710 like well something's wrong. I opened up loopback Oh, yeah, 2868 02:54:31,740 --> 02:54:34,500 well you need to update it won't work until you've updated and by 2869 02:54:34,500 --> 02:54:38,460 the way you can't update because Skype is using it and your and 2870 02:54:38,460 --> 02:54:43,980 your audio system is using it. So I I changed that and then we 2871 02:54:43,980 --> 02:54:48,180 just couldn't get it to work. I spent another hour before I 2872 02:54:48,180 --> 02:54:53,370 finally had everything updated properly. And you know, I don't 2873 02:54:53,370 --> 02:54:57,360 mind updates. But this doing stuff without telling people is 2874 02:54:57,360 --> 02:54:59,700 bull crap man is bullcrap. 2875 02:55:02,100 --> 02:55:05,370 Which reminds me of a George Morrow story who's George 2876 02:55:05,370 --> 02:55:09,960 Morrow. George Morrow was a pretty famous industry pioneer 2877 02:55:09,960 --> 02:55:13,950 who was an engineer in the valley that didn't borrow 2878 02:55:13,950 --> 02:55:18,930 designs. And he was during the AD AD era, Z ad era, he was big 2879 02:55:18,930 --> 02:55:22,080 shot. And, and a nice guy and very funny. He was also 2880 02:55:22,080 --> 02:55:25,920 outspoken, and he was so character. And he used to 2881 02:55:25,920 --> 02:55:30,540 produce all kinds of different boards and computer systems. And 2882 02:55:30,540 --> 02:55:34,590 he would always discuss the these boards, there's another 2883 02:55:34,590 --> 02:55:38,460 was like an I O board or a disk controller. I think they did one 2884 02:55:38,460 --> 02:55:41,610 for their, for the big eight inch drives. There was a disk 2885 02:55:41,610 --> 02:55:45,990 controller they made. He always talked about this idea of, of 2886 02:55:46,320 --> 02:55:51,000 upgrading anything that has been on the market too long. And he 2887 02:55:51,000 --> 02:55:54,450 believing and he wouldn't do it. I mean, he because he said you 2888 02:55:54,450 --> 02:55:57,390 can patch a lot of these boards, usually simple fixes. But 2889 02:55:57,630 --> 02:56:00,180 there's some companies that we would do this constantly, they 2890 02:56:00,180 --> 02:56:04,140 try to perfect the board. He says the problem was always with 2891 02:56:04,140 --> 02:56:08,370 the users of these products, who would invariably within a very 2892 02:56:08,370 --> 02:56:12,240 short timeframe and with the with the kind of group thinking, 2893 02:56:12,780 --> 02:56:17,880 design and use workarounds. And he says once the workarounds 2894 02:56:17,880 --> 02:56:21,060 were like, all over the place, you really had to leave the 2895 02:56:21,060 --> 02:56:25,980 board alone. Because you want you to change anything, the 2896 02:56:25,980 --> 02:56:28,830 workarounds would all stop working and sometimes be very 2897 02:56:28,830 --> 02:56:29,490 destructive. 2898 02:56:29,520 --> 02:56:33,420 And then trying to reverse engineering is the thing that 2899 02:56:33,450 --> 02:56:40,320 drives me crazy. If you don't know what changed, you know the 2900 02:56:40,320 --> 02:56:43,740 work arounds or stuff you you put it in place you forget about 2901 02:56:43,740 --> 02:56:43,920 it? 2902 02:56:45,000 --> 02:56:49,530 Yes. And he was a big believer in minimizing, interfering with 2903 02:56:49,530 --> 02:56:51,990 the workarounds because the workarounds always worked. And 2904 02:56:51,990 --> 02:56:54,330 they were passed around people knew what they were and his Oh, 2905 02:56:54,330 --> 02:56:56,790 yeah, well, that has a bug and you have to do this. And once 2906 02:56:56,790 --> 02:56:59,400 these things are in place, the thing works like a champ. Yeah. 2907 02:57:00,090 --> 02:57:02,970 But a lot of companies would just change it you know them 2908 02:57:02,970 --> 02:57:04,200 next to nothing worked. 2909 02:57:04,500 --> 02:57:11,550 Well, I'll tell you once the podcast studio is done, and God 2910 02:57:11,550 --> 02:57:14,940 willing, hoping maybe February now for the Kickstarter. And 2911 02:57:14,940 --> 02:57:17,490 that'll you know, we're also going to bundle the official 2912 02:57:17,490 --> 02:57:21,330 John C. Dvorak microphone. It'll be beautiful because then every 2913 02:57:21,360 --> 02:57:23,880 all of that is taken off of the computer. The only thing you use 2914 02:57:23,880 --> 02:57:27,390 the computer for is just to play stuff if you want if you want to 2915 02:57:27,390 --> 02:57:31,890 play, you know, all all functions are hard coded in one 2916 02:57:31,890 --> 02:57:35,940 box. Beautiful. Because this is driving me nuts. And I'm going 2917 02:57:35,940 --> 02:57:39,330 to switch to Linux because Apple has lost its way. I really 2918 02:57:39,330 --> 02:57:43,800 wanted the new PowerBook or the MacBook Pro. I'm sorry. Yeah, in 2919 02:57:43,800 --> 02:57:48,150 no way. I hear only bad things about it. Only bad things. 2920 02:57:50,310 --> 02:57:51,660 Yeah, I haven't heard anything good either. 2921 02:57:51,990 --> 02:57:55,590 It's just sad. They don't care about their customers. They 2922 02:57:55,590 --> 02:57:57,660 really don't care about the customers anymore. I think the 2923 02:57:57,660 --> 02:58:02,400 way they see it. Yeah, exactly. All right. Anything else for the 2924 02:58:02,400 --> 02:58:03,030 tech news? 2925 02:58:04,620 --> 02:58:07,410 No, I think we got we're good with tech guy. All right. Let's 2926 02:58:07,410 --> 02:58:07,800 close it 2927 02:58:09,209 --> 02:58:16,379 on my phone Okay, 2928 02:58:16,530 --> 02:58:19,890 okay, well, it's less than 10 minutes I have one clip and then 2929 02:58:19,890 --> 02:58:23,490 we can you can get now we're gonna finish one clip. I want to 2930 02:58:23,490 --> 02:58:26,190 play this one and this is to keep everybody up to date with 2931 02:58:26,190 --> 02:58:30,420 an average or the never the ever changing story about the Fort 2932 02:58:30,420 --> 02:58:33,540 Lauderdale shooter now apparently he didn't have people 2933 02:58:33,540 --> 02:58:37,830 talking to him but he is looking at ISIS stuff. So I don't know. 2934 02:58:39,120 --> 02:58:41,850 You're in a Florida courtroom today. The suspect of the deadly 2935 02:58:41,850 --> 02:58:45,060 shooting rampage of the Fort Lauderdale Airport was ordered 2936 02:58:45,060 --> 02:58:48,240 to remain behind bars until trial. During the hearing, 2937 02:58:48,240 --> 02:58:51,570 prosecutors said Esteban Santiago gave conflicting 2938 02:58:51,570 --> 02:58:55,560 explanations explanations as to his motive. The FBI says 2939 02:58:55,560 --> 02:58:58,530 Santiago first claimed the government was controlling his 2940 02:58:58,530 --> 02:59:02,580 mind but later said he was inspired by ISIS link chat rooms 2941 02:59:02,640 --> 02:59:03,600 and websites 2942 02:59:03,930 --> 02:59:06,450 and didn't and they arrested his his wife 2943 02:59:07,170 --> 02:59:11,580 no no that that's the wife they arrested is the guy who is the 2944 02:59:11,640 --> 02:59:13,590 Orlando nightclub shooter 2945 02:59:14,790 --> 02:59:16,980 oh I'm sorry this Fort Lauderdale. Yes, crap. I'm 2946 02:59:16,980 --> 02:59:21,270 sorry. It that whole thing is very odd. 2947 02:59:22,950 --> 02:59:26,220 Yes. This is all the government's trying to make me 2948 02:59:26,220 --> 02:59:29,400 watch ISIS videos. And now the story is I've been watching ISIS 2949 02:59:29,400 --> 02:59:32,820 videos. The government hasn't said anything about this. Which 2950 02:59:32,820 --> 02:59:35,880 makes me think you know, just the opposite. Okay, 2951 02:59:35,940 --> 02:59:38,760 I'm going to spend a little bit of the time in the next few days 2952 02:59:38,760 --> 02:59:42,210 looking through the CIA document dump 12 million declassified 2953 02:59:42,210 --> 02:59:42,690 documents. 2954 02:59:43,050 --> 02:59:48,360 Please do if I knew about this, I saw it. I said, like, here's I 2955 02:59:48,360 --> 02:59:52,710 guess you're gonna be a search engine we can use leaks front 2956 02:59:52,710 --> 02:59:54,360 end or something that might work. 2957 02:59:54,360 --> 02:59:57,780 Here's the two stories I pulled out. CIA admits it carried out 2958 02:59:57,780 --> 03:00:01,260 secret psychic experiments on Oregon. eller, for those of you 2959 03:00:01,260 --> 03:00:04,290 to remember that with jewelry Gala was a guy who could bend 2960 03:00:04,290 --> 03:00:10,620 spoons with his mind as a bake. Yeah. And it was also operation 2961 03:00:10,650 --> 03:00:16,950 artichoke, which was another mind control project. Not unlike 2962 03:00:16,950 --> 03:00:20,190 MK Ultra. I have not heard of artichoke. 2963 03:00:21,240 --> 03:00:25,710 I have. You have? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know the details, but I 2964 03:00:25,710 --> 03:00:26,580 have heard of it for sure. 2965 03:00:26,610 --> 03:00:30,180 Right. So I'll be I'll look at that. And I'll see if I can come 2966 03:00:30,180 --> 03:00:35,610 up with come up with anything good. And let me see. Yeah. So 2967 03:00:35,970 --> 03:00:40,080 for Sunday, I'll definitely have a number of I think very 2968 03:00:40,080 --> 03:00:43,050 entertaining clips from the confirmation hearings, which 2969 03:00:43,050 --> 03:00:47,880 just shows you that just the two universes as this it's right 2970 03:00:47,880 --> 03:00:52,920 there and it's right in our right in our high government. 2971 03:00:55,500 --> 03:00:56,310 Okay, 2972 03:00:56,339 --> 03:00:59,669 when you have the Samantha Power interview that was done, and 2973 03:00:59,669 --> 03:01:03,599 she's leaving, yeah. And again, Institute University, I believe 2974 03:01:03,629 --> 03:01:07,499 with some crazy stuff in there. That is a four parter that I 2975 03:01:07,499 --> 03:01:09,839 think everyone will be entertained by, because very 2976 03:01:09,839 --> 03:01:15,059 deconstructed. I like to me, I like it. I like it away. Okay. 2977 03:01:18,510 --> 03:01:20,130 When is the next game I should be looking at? 2978 03:01:21,360 --> 03:01:23,640 Well, there's these games that you talked about are being 2979 03:01:23,640 --> 03:01:28,590 played this weekend. So this weekend you want to there's two 2980 03:01:28,590 --> 03:01:31,500 games, obviously the ones you mentioned. Yeah. To see if 2981 03:01:31,500 --> 03:01:33,810 you're if you're if these numbers come out correctly. 2982 03:01:33,930 --> 03:01:38,640 Okay. We'll see. I think a great Superbowl I think everybody 2983 03:01:38,640 --> 03:01:41,700 would love to see the Steelers play the Packers. That's why 2984 03:01:41,700 --> 03:01:45,540 they're going to do it. Coming to you from the crackpot condo 2985 03:01:45,540 --> 03:01:49,890 here in downtown Austin. Take us in the skyscraper, FEMA Region 2986 03:01:49,890 --> 03:01:52,860 six on the maps in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 2987 03:01:53,250 --> 03:01:55,590 Leanne from Northern Silicon Valley where this will be a 2988 03:01:55,590 --> 03:01:59,100 respite respite from the rainstorms it's actually sunny 2989 03:01:59,100 --> 03:02:01,470 out right now. I expect the storms to return tomorrow and 2990 03:02:01,470 --> 03:02:06,240 the drought is long since over as I'm John C. Dvorak 2991 03:02:06,540 --> 03:02:09,480 we'll be back on Sunday right here I know agenda remember us 2992 03:02:09,480 --> 03:02:19,350 at the vortex.org/in A audio smooth follows when 2993 03:02:19,350 --> 03:02:23,220 Adam needs to make a game example of some typical slaves, 2994 03:02:23,760 --> 03:02:28,620 he just read the comments on their face back cage gonna read 2995 03:02:28,620 --> 03:02:36,240 face bag gone on lose some brain cells gonna read face man. gonna 2996 03:02:36,240 --> 03:02:42,930 read comments from shills when Adam needs to make an example of 2997 03:02:42,930 --> 03:02:48,480 some typical slaves he just reads the comments on their face 2998 03:02:48,480 --> 03:02:54,540 back page gonna read face back gone on do some brain cells 2999 03:02:54,540 --> 03:03:00,000 gonna read face man read comments from Shil 3000 03:03:08,040 --> 03:03:19,050 lesson OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 3001 03:03:19,050 --> 03:03:24,810 NO NO NO NO NO I'm up in the booth Oh no, no, no, no 3002 03:03:26,879 --> 03:03:27,749 thanks, Obama. 3003 03:03:28,200 --> 03:03:33,030 I want to talk for the society let's put that aside. Society 3004 03:03:33,030 --> 03:03:34,410 Okay, let's put that aside 3005 03:03:35,549 --> 03:03:40,199 about you did not think it was a good idea. You said when you mix 3006 03:03:40,199 --> 03:03:44,279 you know that when you mix arrows when you mix affection 3007 03:03:44,279 --> 03:03:47,219 for one another that could be manifested sexually I don't care 3008 03:03:47,249 --> 03:03:48,149 if you go 3009 03:03:50,430 --> 03:03:55,800 Yeah, it has to be it has to be 43 and unsafe she 3010 03:03:55,799 --> 03:03:57,659 did a report about about 3011 03:03:59,459 --> 03:04:02,669 will tree you will not find this is where it never has it worked. 3012 03:04:03,089 --> 03:04:05,909 He said the ID one another that could be manifested sexually I 3013 03:04:05,909 --> 03:04:06,569 don't care 3014 03:04:06,599 --> 03:04:14,189 about about about about that goes we will shower. This is an 3015 03:04:14,189 --> 03:04:15,959 alternative universe manifested 3016 03:04:15,960 --> 03:04:18,630 sexually I don't care one another that could be manifested 3017 03:04:18,630 --> 03:04:20,790 sexually. I don't care if you go 3018 03:04:20,879 --> 03:04:26,099 or that goes when you shower. This is an alternative universe. 3019 03:04:27,750 --> 03:04:31,140 I don't care if you go anywhere in history, you will not find 3020 03:04:31,140 --> 03:04:34,710 where could be manifested sexually. I don't care if you go 3021 03:04:35,190 --> 03:04:42,030 to an alternative universe a universe 3022 03:04:44,399 --> 03:04:45,989 for you? Of course. 3023 03:04:46,350 --> 03:04:49,890 Could we find a few who could do the pull ups of course because 3024 03:04:49,890 --> 03:04:55,530 that's how we find a few choices. Could we find a 3025 03:04:55,530 --> 03:05:01,800 society? Who could towards me? It just comes out We'll find a 3026 03:05:01,800 --> 03:05:03,210 few who could do worse 3027 03:05:03,209 --> 03:05:08,399 of course we could we this is an ultra shower. And from let's put 3028 03:05:08,399 --> 03:05:09,299 this aside, okay, 3029 03:05:09,330 --> 03:05:12,810 who could Torsby? Could could we find a few who could do the pull 3030 03:05:12,810 --> 03:05:14,700 ups? Of course because that's not the point. 3031 03:05:14,910 --> 03:05:18,780 Twitter. Let's put that aside. troll people on Twitter. Let's 3032 03:05:18,780 --> 03:05:21,270 put that aside. troll people on Twitter 3033 03:05:21,299 --> 03:05:22,199 find a few, 3034 03:05:23,340 --> 03:05:29,400 four, four times four or four 3035 03:05:30,090 --> 03:05:35,190 this this this is fake news we won't be trapped in the morning 3036 03:05:36,959 --> 03:05:40,319 I want to talk for a second about about about about, about 3037 03:05:40,439 --> 03:05:44,759 about about about this is an alternative universe I want to 3038 03:05:44,759 --> 03:05:49,709 talk for a second about about about about about about this is 3039 03:05:49,799 --> 03:05:54,929 an alternative universe and and he got his two documents victory 3040 03:05:54,989 --> 03:05:59,519 for cheating This is an alternative universe I'm gonna 3041 03:05:59,549 --> 03:06:04,739 talk for a second about about about about about this is an 3042 03:06:04,739 --> 03:06:10,019 alternative universe and he got his you got your victory from 3043 03:06:10,019 --> 03:06:14,729 cheater This is an alternative universe. I want to talk for a 3044 03:06:14,729 --> 03:06:22,799 second about about this is an alternative universe and he got 3045 03:06:22,799 --> 03:06:25,319 his he got his victory from cheating. 3046 03:06:26,160 --> 03:06:28,740 Always a pleasure. You can take that to the bank 3047 03:06:33,090 --> 03:06:34,560 adios MoPhO 3048 03:06:38,940 --> 03:06:44,430 boruch.org/n A Hello