1 00:00:00,329 --> 00:00:04,259 Yeah, well hit hit a jacket jacket. juga Adam curry, John C. 2 00:00:04,259 --> 00:00:08,669 Dvorak. November 28 2013 Time for your Gitmo nation media 3 00:00:08,669 --> 00:00:14,519 assassination, Episode Five suasana. This is no agenda. And 4 00:00:14,519 --> 00:00:18,509 today I am thankful for your courage from the Travis high 5 00:00:18,509 --> 00:00:21,359 tide out in Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam 6 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:21,779 curry. 7 00:00:22,469 --> 00:00:26,009 And oops. I'm northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak. 8 00:00:27,749 --> 00:00:28,199 Hill. 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,270 What did you lose your script? 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,660 Oh, I was just looking at the Twitter because I tweeted right 11 00:00:36,660 --> 00:00:40,740 after you tweeted that we're on the air. Yeah. Then I noticed 12 00:00:40,740 --> 00:00:47,550 that there's a post by me that I'd ever posted. Really? Yeah, 13 00:00:47,580 --> 00:00:50,580 it's it's funny. You mentioned this because yesterday, and that 14 00:00:50,580 --> 00:00:53,340 Miss Mickey is gone. So I'm all alone here. And I'm you know, 15 00:00:53,340 --> 00:00:56,610 I'm just what I do is, I basically bring everything into 16 00:00:56,610 --> 00:00:59,640 the studio. I don't need anything else. I don't need a 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,000 house. They got the I got the arrow bed. I mean, I'm living in 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,170 the studio. And you know, I check Facebook to see if she's 19 00:01:07,170 --> 00:01:10,350 posted any pictures from from the gig that she's doing in Los 20 00:01:10,350 --> 00:01:13,920 Angeles. And all of a sudden I get a bloop. I get an instant 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:19,530 message from this girl. Remember the girl that was at the 22 00:01:19,530 --> 00:01:23,670 reunion? I told you the reunion the radio reunion in Amsterdam? 23 00:01:24,060 --> 00:01:28,560 No. Yeah. She didn't tell me any radio reunion about the girl. 24 00:01:28,590 --> 00:01:29,280 Yes, we did. 25 00:01:29,490 --> 00:01:32,970 I told you I had a reunion. And one of the girls who was there 26 00:01:32,970 --> 00:01:37,170 was our assistant back in the 80s. But she's now this huge 27 00:01:37,710 --> 00:01:39,180 television personality. 28 00:01:39,570 --> 00:01:40,500 How big is she? 29 00:01:41,670 --> 00:01:43,950 Right? Well, she's very famous. Let's put it that Oh, I 30 00:01:45,210 --> 00:01:46,080 misunderstood. 31 00:01:46,649 --> 00:01:51,749 And because of course, I've been working out doing this this spin 32 00:01:51,749 --> 00:01:53,249 class for a couple months. Oh, I 33 00:01:53,250 --> 00:01:55,170 look at changing the story. No, no, 34 00:01:55,170 --> 00:01:58,170 no, no, no, no, this this was this was the entire reason to 35 00:01:58,170 --> 00:02:01,770 say yes. Because I knew all these people would need to go to 36 00:02:01,770 --> 00:02:04,980 the reunion. Okay, because I knew all these people would be 37 00:02:04,980 --> 00:02:08,790 you know, overweight and wrinkled. Like, this is great. 38 00:02:08,790 --> 00:02:10,320 I'm gonna walk and go, Hey, 39 00:02:11,130 --> 00:02:13,110 you're gonna be looking good. That's right. Let's 40 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:17,190 look at my girlish figure. So she she was there. And she 41 00:02:17,220 --> 00:02:20,580 she's, she's She's seriously a huge celebrity now. Like, 42 00:02:20,580 --> 00:02:25,410 really? I told you this like Oprah level almost. Okay. And 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:30,600 for Holland, which doesn't say not much. Deal. So no, it was 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,850 great. Catching up with the she literally could not keep her 45 00:02:32,850 --> 00:02:34,410 hands off of me. Understandable. 46 00:02:36,210 --> 00:02:39,990 So Mickey, I guess is flying to LA. So she can't hear any of 47 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:40,260 this. 48 00:02:40,590 --> 00:02:43,140 Mickey's the one that said, it's okay. As long as you don't put 49 00:02:43,140 --> 00:02:44,700 more than the tip in it's okay. 50 00:02:48,270 --> 00:02:50,970 Welcome to the show, ladies and gentlemen. Not heard no agenda. 51 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:55,350 You're confused. But the point is, so I get this instant 52 00:02:55,350 --> 00:02:58,110 message from her saying something which is actually 53 00:02:58,140 --> 00:03:01,350 relevant to the conversation we had at this reunion. And I'm 54 00:03:01,350 --> 00:03:05,340 like, yeah, and then. And all of a sudden, she's like, trying to 55 00:03:05,340 --> 00:03:11,850 cybersex me. Like, Oh, hold on a second. Cypher seriously, you 56 00:03:11,850 --> 00:03:17,580 know, like, hey, oh, by the way. I'm not kidding. And I'm like, 57 00:03:17,730 --> 00:03:21,750 wow, this is weird. And so I'm like, real cagey. I'm like, 58 00:03:21,780 --> 00:03:24,930 what, what are you talking about? Cage? And she's like, You 59 00:03:24,930 --> 00:03:28,230 know what? I'm good at, you know what I'm good at? I'm like, What 60 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:30,660 do you mean, why don't you tell me what you're good at? And it 61 00:03:30,660 --> 00:03:33,600 was like some back and forth and like, Okay, this is weird. So I 62 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,530 email her. 63 00:03:34,650 --> 00:03:36,930 This is I am so what are you doing this? 64 00:03:37,049 --> 00:03:39,809 It? I think it pops up as a message. I'm sorry. Yeah, I 65 00:03:39,809 --> 00:03:40,379 think it's like a 66 00:03:40,410 --> 00:03:44,400 face count of first segues. Are these pop up message? No. 67 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,250 And I'm like, I'm like, this isn't? Whatever you're planning. 68 00:03:47,250 --> 00:03:51,090 I'm certainly not going to do it on Facebook. Yeah, so email, I 69 00:03:51,090 --> 00:03:52,080 say is this you? 70 00:03:52,590 --> 00:03:55,020 Maybe she's got one of those shows to just don't humiliate 71 00:03:55,020 --> 00:03:55,830 people. Well, 72 00:03:56,010 --> 00:03:58,110 you know, I think something like that was going on because I 73 00:03:58,110 --> 00:04:00,360 email she says, I don't even have a Facebook account. I'm 74 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,820 like, Well, you may want to check this because it sure looks 75 00:04:02,820 --> 00:04:05,280 like your Facebook account. And your cyber sexing 76 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,630 me so Oh, somebody was trying to set you up? Yes, exactly. 77 00:04:10,170 --> 00:04:13,500 And I was not having it, which I'm very happy about because you 78 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:16,440 know how easy it is to be like, yeah, baby, what are you 79 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,960 wearing? I mean, you know, lift and carry what do you know, you 80 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,300 know how easy it would be to trick me really into doing that. 81 00:04:24,300 --> 00:04:29,100 I'd be like, Yeah, cool. dodged the bullet, and I'm thankful for 82 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:36,930 it. There you go. A long way to go. But hey, everybody. It is of 83 00:04:36,930 --> 00:04:41,520 course Thanksgiving Day. Also happy Hanukkah, which I think 84 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,740 happens once every 10,000 years that Hanukkah falls on 85 00:04:46,740 --> 00:04:53,310 Thanksgiving. So I'm not quite sure how that works and what 86 00:04:53,310 --> 00:04:56,970 it means but it means something. I had a lot of people email me 87 00:04:56,970 --> 00:05:00,900 over and I want to mention this before I forget about What's 88 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:04,920 your turkey recipe? Could you how you're gonna have a special 89 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,810 Turkey recipe that I sent one out really? Yeah, like more than 90 00:05:09,810 --> 00:05:10,500 five 91 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,220 interesting and these were no agenda listeners or yeah yeah, 92 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:15,660 yeah fans in general 93 00:05:15,870 --> 00:05:20,100 Well no, no agenda listeners or you know a lot of my fans are no 94 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:24,060 agenda listeners and they're the ones who seem to be focusing on 95 00:05:24,060 --> 00:05:28,260 the cooking right well there's so many I just want to say 96 00:05:28,260 --> 00:05:34,710 there's so many what I recommend to people is go on Google and 97 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:37,980 type in turkey roast turkey because as you know, I mean you 98 00:05:37,980 --> 00:05:40,530 could there's other ways of cooking it but roast turkey and 99 00:05:40,530 --> 00:05:44,490 then take the read five recipes and then just synthesise one 100 00:05:44,730 --> 00:05:47,610 essentially it's you just have the season this bird make sure 101 00:05:47,610 --> 00:05:51,990 you have to clean out as is guts so that was some lemon juice or 102 00:05:51,990 --> 00:05:55,710 something and then either put stuffing in are not a lot of 103 00:05:55,710 --> 00:05:57,510 people. Oh, you don't put the stuffing and you're gonna get 104 00:05:57,540 --> 00:05:58,590 you're gonna die. 105 00:05:59,250 --> 00:06:01,890 Hey, that sounds like my guy who's always weird at me. 106 00:06:02,370 --> 00:06:06,510 Oh, don't put the stuffing in the bird. You'll die. Just like 107 00:06:06,510 --> 00:06:09,810 bull crap. Yeah. Yeah, if you don't know what you're doing, 108 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:14,040 you might but you probably just started you just get sick of 109 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,240 salmonella. anyway and then just do it. It's just generally 20 110 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:18,510 minutes 111 00:06:18,510 --> 00:06:21,240 it's not that hard. It's it's not that hard. And by the way, 112 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,390 seasoning I just say dead easy. I just say salt. You know just 113 00:06:24,420 --> 00:06:25,230 go with salt 114 00:06:25,259 --> 00:06:29,969 and salt to the skin and it works. And you got it. I'm gonna 115 00:06:29,969 --> 00:06:32,159 do something interesting though. And I will write it up if it's 116 00:06:32,159 --> 00:06:39,959 any good Jaycees. fiance is off of all wheat grain products. 117 00:06:40,860 --> 00:06:43,260 This is good actually. Probably. 118 00:06:44,699 --> 00:06:47,399 And I was gonna put a stuffing in it she was gonna do that I 119 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:52,169 can't eat wheat. I can't have gluten and gluten and so I said 120 00:06:52,169 --> 00:06:55,109 well, you're just not going to be a stem. I gotta give you any 121 00:06:55,109 --> 00:06:57,809 of it you know I said now well you know maybe I should be 122 00:06:57,809 --> 00:07:03,239 creative you're I'm going to make a a diced apple dressing. 123 00:07:05,009 --> 00:07:09,209 With dried cranberries dates. 124 00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:13,799 Seasonal so much like Kay throw some quinoa and kale in there. 125 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,040 No, no, that's a grain Keane was Oh right. Oh, that's not this 126 00:07:17,340 --> 00:07:19,140 output and kale in the dressing is 127 00:07:19,139 --> 00:07:19,889 verboten. 128 00:07:21,180 --> 00:07:24,000 So it's going to be a it's going to be an apple dressing and I'm 129 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,790 going to see how it comes out. It should be kind of like a like 130 00:07:26,790 --> 00:07:32,070 a like applesauce a turkey flavoured applesauce that hot 131 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,790 it'd be out if it's any good I'll write it up if it sucks you 132 00:07:35,790 --> 00:07:36,150 know just 133 00:07:36,150 --> 00:07:39,450 write it up if it sucks we'll write it up to know but if you 134 00:07:39,450 --> 00:07:42,840 put some kale in there you could call it a super stuffing 135 00:07:45,029 --> 00:07:49,529 kale Oh maybe I should I do have so I did buy some black kale 136 00:07:49,529 --> 00:07:53,879 some dinos kale to play with and I realised that was a real scam 137 00:07:53,879 --> 00:07:55,739 is because everyone's now there's you know I get a lot of 138 00:07:55,769 --> 00:07:59,369 emails. Look at this another public relations thing for kale. 139 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:05,369 Yeah, it's a buck 69 For a small bunch of kale, which amounts to 140 00:08:05,849 --> 00:08:08,549 it seems to me about a quarter pound I'm gonna weigh it later. 141 00:08:10,079 --> 00:08:14,069 Cabbage which is the same brassica family is about 69 142 00:08:14,069 --> 00:08:18,269 cents a pound. So this is a this is a mine it's a scam. It's a 143 00:08:18,269 --> 00:08:21,629 money grab. It's a total scam. One of our rip off 144 00:08:21,629 --> 00:08:29,279 one of our producers sent a a camera shot of the newspaper in 145 00:08:29,279 --> 00:08:33,779 Kampala Uganda. And I'm not sure which newspaper it is but it's 146 00:08:33,779 --> 00:08:38,159 under health and beauty is this half page article with with a 147 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:41,489 little basket of kale on the side and and two people like 148 00:08:42,089 --> 00:08:45,449 sitting in a table and it's and says you can make juice out of 149 00:08:45,449 --> 00:08:50,369 kale and in the end the dude has a green glass of goop and the 150 00:08:50,369 --> 00:08:54,149 girl has a like a red glass of goop. I guess she doesn't have 151 00:08:54,149 --> 00:08:58,379 the kale with the headline make kale your new friend with 152 00:08:58,379 --> 00:08:59,369 benefits 153 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,900 I somebody sent me this to friend with benefits. 154 00:09:08,130 --> 00:09:11,730 The kale stuff. Yeah. Okay, so we probably got the same name. I 155 00:09:11,730 --> 00:09:13,740 put it in the show notes just because it's so unbelievable. 156 00:09:13,740 --> 00:09:14,640 You have to see it. 157 00:09:14,700 --> 00:09:18,330 Yeah, it's pretty bad. Alright, super. Before we get into the 158 00:09:18,330 --> 00:09:20,310 meat of the show, should we at least talk about the 159 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:22,410 Thanksgiving scam the fact that this 160 00:09:22,590 --> 00:09:26,520 well yes no, this is a tradition here on the no agenda show every 161 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,930 year on this fake holiday. A John explains exactly why it's 162 00:09:30,930 --> 00:09:34,650 fake. How it's fake what it's about and this this year. I'm 163 00:09:34,650 --> 00:09:38,190 going to add a little something but first, ladies and gentlemen, 164 00:09:38,370 --> 00:09:42,690 your annual no agenda tradition. John explains why Thanksgiving 165 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:43,590 he's Bogota live. 166 00:09:44,130 --> 00:09:46,350 Okay, first of all, they originally there was a couple of 167 00:09:46,350 --> 00:09:50,040 events that took place with the Pilgrims in the Indians that 168 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,530 were never called Thanksgiving and the only happened they were 169 00:09:52,530 --> 00:09:55,800 only documented twice and they weren't even consecutive times. 170 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,530 And I think they were in July or something like that. But somehow 171 00:09:58,830 --> 00:10:02,610 this woman And then then they were going to try to make this 172 00:10:02,610 --> 00:10:05,820 kind of a regular holiday until Jefferson came around. Thomas 173 00:10:05,820 --> 00:10:09,330 Jefferson said this, this is stupid. We're not going to do a 174 00:10:09,330 --> 00:10:12,660 holiday. And so they bailed out on it. And there hasn't been 175 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,690 there was never another Thanksgiving until this woman 176 00:10:15,690 --> 00:10:23,460 Sarah Hale came around in 1863. And she believed that there 177 00:10:23,460 --> 00:10:26,160 should be some sort of she was like a religious person and an 178 00:10:26,190 --> 00:10:30,600 activist. She was an activist, community organiser, writer. And 179 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,140 she just had some magazine so she revitalised the the whole 180 00:10:34,140 --> 00:10:38,700 idea and created she that's when it was created. Until then, all 181 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:41,940 the Thanksgivings were that there were a few that was maybe 182 00:10:42,090 --> 00:10:46,320 five or six from about 1770 to the 1800s. And they were 183 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,460 generally commemorative events to honour the dead from various 184 00:10:50,490 --> 00:10:53,340 wars. And this seemed like a good time to do it again after 185 00:10:53,340 --> 00:10:58,230 the Civil War. And so they they put Thanksgiving back into play. 186 00:10:58,230 --> 00:10:58,470 So 187 00:10:58,470 --> 00:11:03,570 it is indeed recognised as a day another yet another day to think 188 00:11:03,570 --> 00:11:05,670 about our warriors 189 00:11:05,789 --> 00:11:08,759 is yes, in fact, in fact, if you look at you know, they say, 190 00:11:08,759 --> 00:11:10,619 well, it's only in the United States. That's not true. Canada 191 00:11:10,619 --> 00:11:14,189 has a Thanksgiving. And if you look up the wiki entry on 192 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:19,169 Thanksgiving in Canada, you will find that it was also used as a 193 00:11:19,169 --> 00:11:23,519 way to honour the dead. Ah, it had nothing to do with pilgrims 194 00:11:23,519 --> 00:11:26,459 or having fun with the Indians or any of that stuff 195 00:11:26,490 --> 00:11:30,900 at all. This is such a disappointment. Because that's 196 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:33,060 fun with Indians. 197 00:11:33,449 --> 00:11:37,169 We have there was some some there's a couple of funny 198 00:11:37,169 --> 00:11:40,889 stories about how they when they did have their, their harvest 199 00:11:40,889 --> 00:11:44,309 festival with the Indians one year, then within the next five 200 00:11:44,309 --> 00:11:48,599 years, their dad killed all those same Indians. Just a 201 00:11:48,599 --> 00:11:52,589 little aside. Anyway, one documented Thanksgiving was for 202 00:11:52,589 --> 00:11:57,419 a one shot celebration that was held in 1676. It was a generic 203 00:11:57,479 --> 00:12:02,069 term for an ad libbed holiday. There was also during the 204 00:12:02,069 --> 00:12:04,949 Roosevelt administration, they tried to move the Thursday up a 205 00:12:04,949 --> 00:12:09,179 week because Thanksgiving by then by the 30s, had become 206 00:12:09,209 --> 00:12:12,599 exactly what it is today commercial date, that marks 207 00:12:12,629 --> 00:12:16,049 right marks the beginning of the Christmas shopping holiday. And 208 00:12:16,049 --> 00:12:19,289 Roosevelt tried to move it up a week, because it was a 209 00:12:19,289 --> 00:12:19,919 depression. 210 00:12:19,950 --> 00:12:23,940 What I understand is that 16 states at the time refused to 211 00:12:23,940 --> 00:12:27,210 move it. So we actually had two Thanksgivings in the United 212 00:12:27,210 --> 00:12:27,780 States. 213 00:12:28,049 --> 00:12:32,009 Well, it'd be good got so much so many people objected to it, 214 00:12:32,009 --> 00:12:37,499 because so many people have been bought into the bowl crap about 215 00:12:37,499 --> 00:12:40,589 Thanksgiving. Yeah, that these idiots and some of these states 216 00:12:40,589 --> 00:12:44,759 says, Oh, it's a sin. You know, we're honouring the Pilgrims in 217 00:12:44,759 --> 00:12:50,279 the Indians. And, seriously, and so they, so they wouldn't change 218 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:53,219 it because it would be changing God's will or something. It was 219 00:12:53,219 --> 00:12:56,279 unbelievable. And so And Roosevelt got a lot of pressure. 220 00:12:56,279 --> 00:13:01,079 So he moved it back. And now we just start shopping earlier. Now 221 00:13:01,079 --> 00:13:04,769 I think the real mark of a beginning of the Christmas 222 00:13:04,769 --> 00:13:07,019 holiday season is when all the decorations go up. 223 00:13:07,050 --> 00:13:08,340 Oh, which has already happened. 224 00:13:10,710 --> 00:13:14,520 I think Thanksgiving just as it makes it official, but does 225 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,370 Christmas shopping has begun to have already begun. It began 226 00:13:17,370 --> 00:13:22,470 early in November, I have a bogus holiday. And by the way, 227 00:13:22,470 --> 00:13:26,820 it was one person said during the late 1800s That it was 228 00:13:26,820 --> 00:13:30,300 needed, because we needed more holidays we didn't have at the 229 00:13:30,300 --> 00:13:32,820 time. We didn't have Armistice Day and all these things that 230 00:13:32,820 --> 00:13:35,820 happened after World War One and after World War Two. So we were 231 00:13:35,820 --> 00:13:38,640 actually short holidays, we didn't have enough holidays. So 232 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,860 they figured, okay, we'll put this in play and we're going to 233 00:13:40,860 --> 00:13:43,770 take a day off. And it was actually two days it became two 234 00:13:43,770 --> 00:13:47,190 days off. And it's the only holiday interestingly enough 235 00:13:47,190 --> 00:13:52,080 besides Christmas, that has a New Year's obviously, that all 236 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,060 the other holidays have been standardised to happen on a 237 00:13:54,060 --> 00:13:58,380 Monday or Friday based on a law that was passed in 1971. What 238 00:13:58,380 --> 00:14:02,010 law was that? It was the standardisation of of 239 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,520 Oh really, there's a law when holidays can be celebrated in 240 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,020 1971. So it was the Nixon administration. They were sick 241 00:14:10,020 --> 00:14:14,250 and they were sick of the work. The corporate America was sick 242 00:14:14,250 --> 00:14:17,370 of these guys. You know, all of a sudden you have a Tuesday 243 00:14:17,370 --> 00:14:19,890 would be a holiday or Thursday would be a holiday then people 244 00:14:19,890 --> 00:14:22,830 will take long weekends. He was killing once we 245 00:14:22,830 --> 00:14:25,110 couldn't display the slaves weren't doing their job. They 246 00:14:25,110 --> 00:14:26,280 were taking extra days. 247 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,920 We're just taking too much time off. And so we had to 248 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,470 we can't have that in the call for option to it. Yes, 249 00:14:32,010 --> 00:14:33,930 I did. That's why all the holidays are Mondays and 250 00:14:33,930 --> 00:14:34,470 Fridays. 251 00:14:34,559 --> 00:14:38,249 I did not clip this but I just I'm just seeing now that the 252 00:14:38,249 --> 00:14:43,019 President released his podcast early and I just glanced at the 253 00:14:43,019 --> 00:14:46,529 transcript I think we should play the first 30 seconds of his 254 00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:49,349 Thanksgiving address to see if he has it all correct. Well, 255 00:14:49,349 --> 00:14:49,859 maybe for 256 00:14:49,860 --> 00:14:52,440 dinner is he going to chuck let the turkey go 257 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,690 please don't take me to there. That's that's like the stupidest 258 00:14:57,690 --> 00:15:02,160 thing and it's so dumb. Let's Heelas tip this up, pile 259 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:10,440 everybody. Hi everybody, on behalf of all the Obamas on 260 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:17,010 behalf of all the Obamas me the other Obama Sodre bow, newest 261 00:15:17,010 --> 00:15:20,460 member of our family, sonny, I want to wish you a happy and 262 00:15:20,460 --> 00:15:23,640 healthy Thanksgiving. Okay. We'll be spending today just 263 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,880 like many of you down with family and friends to eat some 264 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,740 good food. Thanks if you have a chef, all right stories, modulo 265 00:15:31,740 --> 00:15:35,760 football, and most importantly, count our blessings. And as 266 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,180 Americans, we have so much to be thankful for your combs. We give 267 00:15:39,180 --> 00:15:41,760 thanks for the men and women who set sail for this land nearly 268 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,610 four centuries ago, risking everything for the chance that a 269 00:15:44,610 --> 00:15:47,820 better life. And the people who are already here, our Native 270 00:15:47,820 --> 00:15:50,910 American brothers and sisters for their generosity during that 271 00:15:50,910 --> 00:15:54,210 first Thanksgiving. I see he's propagating the same bullcrap. 272 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,930 Yeah, it's total bullcrap that their generosity. Hey, thanks, 273 00:15:57,930 --> 00:16:03,210 Redskins. Oops. Man. Oh, man. Oh, man. All right. Well, this 274 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,690 it is of course, still a commercial holiday. So you might 275 00:16:06,690 --> 00:16:09,930 as well keep the dream alive. I mean, why not? It's no different 276 00:16:09,930 --> 00:16:11,670 than Santa Claus is fine by me. 277 00:16:12,690 --> 00:16:14,820 It was a little different than Santa Claus. 278 00:16:14,850 --> 00:16:16,980 Just that they're teaching it is kind of. 279 00:16:17,730 --> 00:16:21,060 So today, let me read this last paragraph. This is was a blog 280 00:16:21,060 --> 00:16:26,340 entry. You read the various links as late as the holiday 281 00:16:26,340 --> 00:16:28,860 never existed in this form until Lincoln that said there were a 282 00:16:28,860 --> 00:16:32,460 few federal proclamations declaring thanksgiving for 283 00:16:32,460 --> 00:16:36,150 celebratory purposes. And that was the first was in 17 sevens, 284 00:16:36,210 --> 00:16:44,580 the seven then randomly in 1795 7098 1799 and 1815. Most of 285 00:16:44,580 --> 00:16:46,050 these were war related. 286 00:16:46,829 --> 00:16:49,679 I'm looking at the official proclamation which is real which 287 00:16:49,679 --> 00:16:52,199 goes into the Federal Register, which is the real deal 288 00:16:52,649 --> 00:16:56,459 proclaimed by our president. Paragraph two, our annual 289 00:16:56,459 --> 00:17:00,209 celebration has roots in centuries old colonial customs. 290 00:17:00,389 --> 00:17:03,509 When we gather around the table, we follow the example of the 291 00:17:03,509 --> 00:17:07,619 pilgrims and Wampanoag dogs, who shared the fruits of a 292 00:17:07,619 --> 00:17:11,729 successful harvest nearly 400 years ago, when we offer our 293 00:17:11,729 --> 00:17:15,029 thanks we mirror those who set aside a day of prayer. And when 294 00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:17,099 we join with friends and neighbours to alleviate 295 00:17:17,099 --> 00:17:19,799 suffering and make our communities whole, we honour the 296 00:17:19,799 --> 00:17:22,619 spirit of President Abraham Lincoln, who called on his 297 00:17:22,619 --> 00:17:25,319 fellow citizens to quote fervently implore the 298 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:28,379 interposition of the almighty hand to heal the wounds of the 299 00:17:28,379 --> 00:17:32,219 nation, and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with 300 00:17:32,219 --> 00:17:35,909 the divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, 301 00:17:35,969 --> 00:17:42,749 tranquillity and union. Now, get me some turkey you Indian shit. 302 00:17:44,579 --> 00:17:45,899 No, I didn't say that. I'm sorry. 303 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:52,530 So I've got a turkey here. That is a heritage bird that weighs 304 00:17:52,530 --> 00:17:53,220 seven pounds, which 305 00:17:53,220 --> 00:17:55,890 is light. That seems light. Yeah, it's 306 00:17:55,890 --> 00:17:59,640 gonna be great. When you get a good heritage Turkey The weird 307 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,760 thing is I can see why these birds were popular, probably 308 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,600 from about 18 cents not no when they first became part of the 309 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:12,840 deal, but 1880 I guess, are true about 1950 Because the one of 310 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,330 these old heritage birds actually tastes more like 311 00:18:15,330 --> 00:18:19,590 pheasant than Turkey doesn't have that stench. That real 312 00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:23,550 cheap Turkey stench you get from a butter now you know what I'm 313 00:18:23,550 --> 00:18:24,150 talking about? I know 314 00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:26,940 exactly when you walk when you walk into the house you like 315 00:18:26,970 --> 00:18:28,800 you're just gagging 316 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,890 Yeah, it's a stench and this is the kind of this is the same 317 00:18:31,890 --> 00:18:36,090 with farmed salmon. It's has a stinky you can in a bunch of 318 00:18:36,090 --> 00:18:37,200 white milk comes out. 319 00:18:37,290 --> 00:18:42,180 Oh, when you go when you're cooking that white goo Ah, stop. 320 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,590 You cannot eat salmon anymore. You can't there's and there is 321 00:18:46,650 --> 00:18:50,760 almost no fresh salmon to be found in get 322 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,160 up in Washington state from the Indians. Well, sure. 323 00:18:54,150 --> 00:18:56,850 Sure. But you know what I'm saying is salmon has just 324 00:18:56,850 --> 00:18:58,560 basically been ruined by the farming. 325 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,180 Yeah, no, it's it's stinks. They white it's gotten white milk and 326 00:19:03,180 --> 00:19:07,020 it has it has a flavour that is enough to make me sick. 327 00:19:07,050 --> 00:19:09,630 I'm getting sick. By the way. I have I have a home for 328 00:19:09,630 --> 00:19:10,650 Thanksgiving today. 329 00:19:11,940 --> 00:19:12,690 I have a going. 330 00:19:12,749 --> 00:19:18,239 I'm going to my friends. John Christian, Fritz, and they have 331 00:19:18,239 --> 00:19:21,569 promised me a Thanksgiving with cowboys and trainees. 332 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,920 Cowboys in trend is just That's Texas. 333 00:19:26,190 --> 00:19:30,390 In fact, the trainee is a very famous professor here at UT. 334 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:34,770 A trainee at school. 335 00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:40,230 Yes. No, completely. Yes. Yes, she is. And what 336 00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:44,880 she is, so she is a Is she a transsexual or a transvestite 337 00:19:44,910 --> 00:19:46,650 transsexual? I believe okay. 338 00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:50,580 I don't know if she will find out. I mean, she's like a 339 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:57,180 molecular biologist. So that's kind of interesting. And then 340 00:19:58,020 --> 00:20:02,520 one of the guys dad is Cowboy. He's like a total Fox news 341 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:07,170 junkie. So it's gonna be funny. Yeah, it's 342 00:20:07,170 --> 00:20:10,470 gonna be fun for that'd be great. Fox News is run by the 343 00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:11,160 Democrats. 344 00:20:11,220 --> 00:20:14,430 Yeah. Oh yeah, no. Oh god. I don't know if I have the energy 345 00:20:14,430 --> 00:20:16,500 after the show to get into it 346 00:20:16,740 --> 00:20:20,880 was tonight. Yeah, you want to sit back and relax and watch 347 00:20:21,060 --> 00:20:25,710 watch this guide Yak. We also have listeners that rush 348 00:20:25,710 --> 00:20:26,400 limbaugh to 349 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,610 Oh, yes. Yeah. Well, it'll it'll be interesting. By the 350 00:20:29,610 --> 00:20:32,250 way Rush Limbaugh on a couple days ago had a big thing on 351 00:20:32,250 --> 00:20:35,610 Thanksgiving. Well, he has a book out he's promoting. Yeah, 352 00:20:35,610 --> 00:20:37,410 he's got a book out he's promoting this got a little bit 353 00:20:37,410 --> 00:20:39,690 to do it. But his Thanksgiving story. I said all the truth 354 00:20:39,690 --> 00:20:42,540 about Thanksgiving, he says, So I'm reading this thing. Oh, 355 00:20:42,540 --> 00:20:46,110 well, I guess Russia has finally read some of my material or or 356 00:20:46,110 --> 00:20:49,560 the other people that debunk Thanksgiving. No, no, Russia 357 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,380 says the whole thing is misunderstood. When the pilgrims 358 00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:55,710 and the Indians got together. It turned out there were the 359 00:20:55,710 --> 00:20:58,710 pilgrims are trying to make a kind of a commune which doesn't 360 00:20:58,710 --> 00:21:01,560 work. And the whole thing when they finally figured out free 361 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,980 enterprise, and they started just doing their own thing in a 362 00:21:04,980 --> 00:21:08,130 free enterprise free market way. That's what the celebration was 363 00:21:08,130 --> 00:21:10,560 all about. It was the celebration of the free market 364 00:21:10,650 --> 00:21:17,760 emergence. Wow. It's like what are you insane? Yeah, 365 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,100 of course he is. It's not healthy to listen to people like 366 00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:23,820 this too much. You can sample and you should be sampling. But 367 00:21:23,820 --> 00:21:26,970 my goodness, when people get sucked into listening to crap 368 00:21:26,970 --> 00:21:32,940 like that, and I know. So of course I it's very hard not to 369 00:21:32,940 --> 00:21:39,930 gloat and it's it the timing could not be really could not be 370 00:21:39,930 --> 00:21:48,270 better. As on Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Looking for the 371 00:21:48,270 --> 00:21:51,960 jingle here on Sunday, we have another one of our annual or of 372 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,430 our monthly very famous, 373 00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:56,340 it's another instalment of with the 374 00:21:57,900 --> 00:22:02,220 now I had said that it looked like it was all dead. That you 375 00:22:02,220 --> 00:22:04,650 know they're on to me. They're they're not talking to me like 376 00:22:04,650 --> 00:22:10,050 they used to. But I had quite a Twitter, and even Facebook 377 00:22:10,050 --> 00:22:12,720 Exchange with two of the main players, including the 378 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:21,000 professor. When I somewhat glowingly that posted the link 379 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:28,470 to the fact that the FDA is shutting down 23 and me. And 380 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:31,140 first of all, like props to the no agenda show for calling this 381 00:22:31,140 --> 00:22:34,410 stuff out for the parlour trick that it is, but I was 382 00:22:35,460 --> 00:22:40,020 flabbergasted my new word of the week when the professor and his 383 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:48,060 wife, Marianne, posted, saying, Oh, my God, Adam, are you 384 00:22:48,060 --> 00:22:53,100 actually on the government side on this one? I was like, wow, 385 00:22:53,130 --> 00:22:57,240 that's your response. That's your response. Did you read what 386 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,460 the government said? Did you read that? They're basically 387 00:22:59,460 --> 00:23:05,370 calling 23 me out as regulation, dodging shocks, there's 388 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,960 charlatans, charlatans, and so on. But it's funny because I 389 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,070 stayed on it. I was I'm like, Okay. And I really went very 390 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:17,310 deep on what is this genetic testing? And what and what are 391 00:23:17,310 --> 00:23:19,920 they really doing? And where is it coming from? And I'd like to, 392 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,650 I'd like to share a little bit of my research because when you 393 00:23:22,650 --> 00:23:26,460 look into it, it there's a lot more than than I expected to 394 00:23:26,460 --> 00:23:30,930 find. And it's even worse than it appeared. The first glance 395 00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:33,990 here, by the way, is the core of the issue 396 00:23:34,020 --> 00:23:37,140 website, of course, is that, gee, it's great to be able to 397 00:23:37,140 --> 00:23:41,640 get information about my own health for a pretty reasonable 398 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,750 price point, without having to go to a doctor pay a tonne of 399 00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:49,800 money, and have a bunch of regulators standing in the way. 400 00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:55,230 That is, of course, the argument that 23 and 23 and me other 401 00:23:55,230 --> 00:23:59,400 companies like to make, and it's a powerful one. The problem is 402 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,880 that our understanding of genetics, especially in the 403 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,410 public, is very low, and that these tests come not only with 404 00:24:07,410 --> 00:24:10,590 limited accuracy, but also without the benefit of genetic 405 00:24:10,590 --> 00:24:15,540 counselling. So I imagine that that you send your DNA away, you 406 00:24:15,540 --> 00:24:19,110 receive news back from 23andme. This is the kind of information 407 00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:24,150 that they do provide that your negative for the BRCA one and 408 00:24:24,150 --> 00:24:27,960 BRCA two those mutations that lead somebody be more 409 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,040 susceptible to getting certain forms of breast cancer? Well, 410 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:34,410 when armed with that information, the individual 411 00:24:34,410 --> 00:24:38,550 might decide to avoid getting mammograms, well, that decision 412 00:24:38,550 --> 00:24:42,120 could be fatal. So not having those particular mutations that 413 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:45,570 braca one and braca two in this case, lowers your genetic risk 414 00:24:45,570 --> 00:24:51,690 from about 12.5% to 12.4% of getting breast cancer and so 415 00:24:51,690 --> 00:24:54,810 it's clearly a mistake to avoid mammograms but the information 416 00:24:54,810 --> 00:24:57,390 you receive back from a company like 23andme doesn't tell you 417 00:24:57,390 --> 00:25:01,110 any of this. So the here's the things And again, this is this 418 00:25:01,110 --> 00:25:04,980 was very surprising to me that a professor who know who knows 419 00:25:04,980 --> 00:25:08,490 better, but this was pretty much what all the robots were saying. 420 00:25:08,730 --> 00:25:09,300 And I 421 00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:14,700 interrupt you Sure. Don't do bots have as part of their 422 00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:19,530 litany that government regulation is good and we 423 00:25:19,530 --> 00:25:21,360 wouldn't have had this depression if there was more 424 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:24,300 government regulation and government regulation is good. 425 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:27,000 It's great. It's helpful it's useful we need more of it not 426 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,540 less of it. 427 00:25:27,570 --> 00:25:30,930 This is exactly what was so weird is that they were calling 428 00:25:30,930 --> 00:25:33,780 me out for being on the government side like you know, 429 00:25:33,810 --> 00:25:36,600 it's crazy that you would be on the government on the government 430 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,100 side with this. But here but here is the the also completely 431 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:45,690 false. So here's, here's the posting download your 23andme 432 00:25:45,690 --> 00:25:49,800 data ASAP if you haven't, the FDA doesn't trust you with your 433 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,840 own genome, which is not at all what the by the way, that's a 434 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,840 kind of a repost from Discover Magazine, this is this is their, 435 00:25:57,870 --> 00:26:02,160 this is the take on it. That 23andme And this is literally 436 00:26:02,190 --> 00:26:04,830 that's kind of a douchey way of putting it Don't you think it 437 00:26:04,830 --> 00:26:05,670 gets worse? 438 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,920 Worse than this by saying 23andme or democratising health 439 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:17,670 care? I'm like what? They're democratising healthcare. So the 440 00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:21,570 thinking is that because you can download, you can get your 441 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,470 genome and you can download it and analyse it. Or in this case, 442 00:26:25,650 --> 00:26:29,970 it's analysed for you that that somehow is a democratisation of 443 00:26:29,970 --> 00:26:35,190 healthcare thing. It's improper use of the word democracy. But 444 00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:38,640 when you when you look into what this analysis is, now that the 445 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,810 human genome was decoded in 2003, I think, and really what 446 00:26:42,810 --> 00:26:45,780 has come out of it, from all sides, there's been no real 447 00:26:45,780 --> 00:26:48,720 players, it's been really sad this, nothing has really 448 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:55,500 emerged. But what we do have is a big database called the the SN 449 00:26:55,530 --> 00:27:00,930 pedia, sn P E, D I A. and And interestingly enough, it's an 450 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:07,680 open source database of these markers, that helps you 451 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,450 understand what certain genes in your genome mean. And when you 452 00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:16,950 look through it, yeah, it's it's a pretty small set. There's some 453 00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:23,190 really funny ones in there, like Rs 9332964, which is the s&p for 454 00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:27,090 micro penis, which I love I gladly posted. And I said, Hey, 455 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:32,190 Professor Russ, do you have this gene? Code, you could only say 456 00:27:32,190 --> 00:27:36,240 Well played. But there's actually a desktop application 457 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,170 called Promethease. And you can download that, and it takes 458 00:27:40,170 --> 00:27:45,120 about four hours on a modern powered computer. And it will do 459 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:52,290 exactly what 23andme is doing is it'll, it'll take your, your 460 00:27:52,290 --> 00:27:56,340 genome and any of these SNPs it can identify it will and it'll 461 00:27:56,340 --> 00:28:00,780 show these to you. And you can take it for what it is. You 462 00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:04,470 know, it's like, you know, so I guess if you have the RS 9332964 463 00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:06,840 gene, and you're gonna have kids, while your kid might have 464 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,170 a micro penis, I guess that's the conclusion. But really these 465 00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:14,490 risks for numbers is the is the problem with communication of 466 00:28:15,030 --> 00:28:18,120 issues in general that the public has now bought into and 467 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:23,190 this we've been tracking this and identifying the 90% are in 468 00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:30,300 90%. Of of, of scientists agree 9797 9899. By the way, this is 469 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:35,100 proven to work. We've known this since the 50s. When advertising 470 00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:39,360 said nine out of 10 dentists agree that is better than 10 out 471 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,910 of 10 dentists, this is advertising, this is marketing, 472 00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:44,670 it's well known, well researched, well study that if 473 00:28:44,670 --> 00:28:48,450 you give that 10% That one dentist Well, he's obviously a 474 00:28:48,450 --> 00:28:52,980 shit. Clearly this is good, because you know, it's science 475 00:28:52,980 --> 00:28:55,680 because there's one guy who's kind of on the fence are against 476 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,990 it. And this works and this is why it's below is 477 00:28:57,990 --> 00:29:02,010 no there's a crackpot out there. Yeah. So the danger 478 00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:04,590 of course, is and, and this is all about the marketing. If 479 00:29:04,590 --> 00:29:08,310 you're looking at 23 and me's website, they are literally 480 00:29:08,370 --> 00:29:12,810 talking about recommendations of things you should talk to your 481 00:29:12,810 --> 00:29:17,490 doctor about regarding certain brand name pharmaceuticals, not 482 00:29:17,490 --> 00:29:22,530 even the the generics or other or other other brands or even 483 00:29:22,530 --> 00:29:25,830 the the medical, the medical name, the clinical name, the 484 00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:30,090 pharmaceutical name, only the brand names, and people do not 485 00:29:30,090 --> 00:29:33,840 understand how to assess risk. So it's, it's the same with 486 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,410 terrorism. Now, people think that we have to go through all 487 00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:41,160 these hoops at the airport because the risk of of a 488 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,490 terrorist attack is so high when of course, your risk of actually 489 00:29:44,490 --> 00:29:48,600 dying in a terrorist attack is is extremely minut. 490 00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:51,690 But the way that she's more likely to get struck by 491 00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:52,170 lightning. 492 00:29:52,410 --> 00:29:57,540 Now, when I look distinctly Yeah, twice. So when I look at 493 00:29:57,540 --> 00:30:02,790 the at what 23 and me is a is offering. And they don't even 494 00:30:02,820 --> 00:30:06,570 they don't do their own tests, they handed out to CLI a approve 495 00:30:06,570 --> 00:30:12,000 laboratory. And it's the same as the $5,000, the $4,000 test. So 496 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,250 I don't think that they're even doing that they're outsourcing 497 00:30:14,250 --> 00:30:16,650 it. And obviously, they're using their 100 million dollars in 498 00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:22,500 venture capital to, I guess this subsidise that. But they're 499 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:24,840 making all these recommendations. And that, of 500 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,980 course, is the problem. And that is also the danger. And I've 501 00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:32,880 spoken to many doctors who say, Oh, I can all these people with 502 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,690 this 23andme bullcrap showing up like, and he said that people 503 00:30:36,690 --> 00:30:38,700 are going to get sick, just from thinking about the stuff that 504 00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:43,530 they might have, that they have a 56% or 53% chance of, of 505 00:30:43,530 --> 00:30:51,270 getting. So it's, it's it is indeed a poorly marketed, but of 506 00:30:51,270 --> 00:30:51,810 course, 507 00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:55,410 if you really want to poorly marketed or all 508 00:30:56,070 --> 00:31:00,300 rights illegally marketed? Yeah, the main thing is, if you want 509 00:31:00,570 --> 00:31:04,620 to be the player, then be the player. You know, you got your 510 00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:07,140 Google money you got you got your ID, because Google is also 511 00:31:07,140 --> 00:31:11,550 an investor, as is Sergey Brin personally, you could do it 512 00:31:11,550 --> 00:31:13,080 right, do it like all the other guys, 513 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,720 of course, this runs it x, y, but do it right, 514 00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:20,520 go, go pay off everybody the way you're supposed to do the big 515 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,700 test pay for it really go in because otherwise someone else 516 00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:25,980 is going to come and eat your lunch, which is happening now. 517 00:31:27,270 --> 00:31:33,870 And someone forwarded the email to me from and what GCC key who 518 00:31:33,870 --> 00:31:37,140 is the CEO, dear 23andme. Customers, I want to reach out 519 00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:39,570 to you about the FDA letter that was sent to 23 and me last 520 00:31:39,570 --> 00:31:43,170 Friday, it is absolutely critical that our customers get 521 00:31:43,170 --> 00:31:47,730 quality and get high quality genetic data they can trust. We 522 00:31:47,730 --> 00:31:50,430 have worked extensively with our lab partner to make sure that 523 00:31:50,430 --> 00:31:57,990 the results we return are accurate. We stand behind the 524 00:31:57,990 --> 00:32:02,130 data, that when we were we stand behind the data that we returned 525 00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:05,610 to customers, but we recognise that the FDA needs to be 526 00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:08,460 convinced convinced of the quality of our data as well, 527 00:32:08,580 --> 00:32:11,400 which is a lie, because this is not what the letter says I read 528 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:17,910 the letter, and the FDA is not questioning. They're testing. 529 00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:21,960 They're questioning what they are marketing. And this is where 530 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,090 it gets this is where you get into philosophical discussion, 531 00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:29,640 which I find the only interesting part is can a test a 532 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:36,060 basically a test tube of saliva that is sent off in the mail, 533 00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:39,270 can that be classified as a medical device? Because that is 534 00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:42,000 the law that the FDA is pointing to? And I think that's that's a 535 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,320 conversation worth having? 536 00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:51,960 Yeah, the device arguments a little weak, it seems to me. I 537 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,640 think if they went after them for diagnosis without having an 538 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,020 MD kind of thing, or go or this sort of blanket, I mean, they go 539 00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:05,820 after websites to tell you to take two aspirin. They go after 540 00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:09,240 individuals who are natural via you know, the natural, 541 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,550 you can't do it. Yeah, of course, there's no sign take our 542 00:33:11,550 --> 00:33:11,970 vitamin 543 00:33:11,970 --> 00:33:14,610 Beach, well, boom, knock, knock knock, hey, you're gonna tell 544 00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:15,390 people to do that? 545 00:33:15,450 --> 00:33:22,140 Yeah. So here's an animal a one paragraph of an analysis that I 546 00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:27,420 got from someone who's in the field, about the risks to while 547 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,360 23andme can tell you you have risk based on genetic 548 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,540 information, they can't tell you absolute risk in any meaningful 549 00:33:33,540 --> 00:33:37,440 way. Because the vast majority of diseases people are 550 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,490 interested in don't have a very strong genetic component. Even 551 00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:45,540 when heritability scores are high, the link genes are very 552 00:33:45,540 --> 00:33:49,620 weak associations. So these guys are selling a product to 553 00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:52,080 diagnose health and make health decisions, which has not been 554 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,110 approved by the FDA, the product is questionable and wouldn't 555 00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:58,830 actually pass muster as a diagnostic test. Even though 556 00:33:59,310 --> 00:34:03,000 they aren't even all that rigid about those kinds of tests. The 557 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,910 FDA, this is a no brainer, they should have been shut down a 558 00:34:05,910 --> 00:34:09,420 long time ago. As for if the data you can get for this price 559 00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:13,200 is any good. We won't even get to that step. If you even if you 560 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,840 assume the data is perfect. They can't do what they're claiming 561 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,840 to do. And if they could, they would need FDA approval to do 562 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,100 so. So I think the data may be reasonable. I've seen a lot of 563 00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:27,960 people who have compared it to other expensive tests. And and 564 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,280 it seems like the database 565 00:34:29,790 --> 00:34:33,630 outsourcing it just and doing it getting a Bulk Rate. Yeah. I'm 566 00:34:33,630 --> 00:34:37,320 sure that you know if it's done by one of these major firms that 567 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,230 normally charges 5000 bucks, the reason they were charging 5000 568 00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:43,320 bucks because there wasn't a huge demand for this sort of 569 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,050 thing. There was a demand for identification DNA, which is a 570 00:34:46,050 --> 00:34:46,830 different thing. 571 00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:49,620 Right. And it's interesting the other other companies that were 572 00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:53,370 doing this Navigenics was one company they were acquired last 573 00:34:53,370 --> 00:34:56,280 year by Life Technologies. So So that's off the market. These 574 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,970 really are the only guys left and I did put in the show notes 575 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:07,650 A article from 2009 from the New York Times where it specifically 576 00:35:07,650 --> 00:35:11,130 talks about how genes show limited value in predicting 577 00:35:11,130 --> 00:35:14,280 diseases, so the hereditary stuff, it's interesting, you 578 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,510 know, I'm part Neanderthal or whatever, you know, that's sure, 579 00:35:18,540 --> 00:35:22,470 let's see if you're if you're if you care. But really, in 580 00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:28,140 predicting diseases, it's still a pipe dream. And while I'm 581 00:35:29,010 --> 00:35:32,190 excited for people who want to know and think this is great 582 00:35:32,190 --> 00:35:34,800 democratisation of health care, and you'll have some 583 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,670 personalised medicine in the future, you know, it's a little 584 00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:43,650 early to lay this on to the public. Because the public is 585 00:35:43,650 --> 00:35:44,310 dumb. 586 00:35:47,699 --> 00:35:52,199 Yeah, yeah. This unfortunate situation. Seems to be true. 587 00:35:52,229 --> 00:35:56,039 Yeah. So it will be very interesting on Sunday cuz I was 588 00:35:56,039 --> 00:36:02,159 just gloating. I'm just like, he's stupid recreational data. 589 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:06,570 Recreational data, that's recreational, big data. 590 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,960 That's it says it on the 23andme has a disclaimer. 591 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,010 It says, Oh, this is just a game. Yeah, like a disclaimer. 592 00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:16,650 Horowitz. And I have when we pick stocks, exactly. 593 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,190 We may or may not hold these stocks. But we're really just 594 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:23,580 crapping around here. Yeah, let me let me see where there I have 595 00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:26,850 their, their disclaimer here on the website somewhere, just a 596 00:36:26,850 --> 00:36:27,330 game. 597 00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:31,560 That's exactly know that for some reason, I don't know why. 598 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,740 But yeah, the old disclaimer, well, you know, they come out of 599 00:36:34,740 --> 00:36:37,920 Silicon Valley thinking. So everything's got a disclaimer, 600 00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:41,040 you know, and then if you hurt yourself using the product, then 601 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,550 you're you're not, you know, the company is not liable. We say so 602 00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:46,350 right here. And you're, there's a EULA. 603 00:36:47,010 --> 00:36:51,420 Yeah, I think what, what really irks me about the the reason why 604 00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:56,790 I'm irked about this company, is because they have that Silicon 605 00:36:56,790 --> 00:37:01,890 Valley. We're a disruptive mentality. That's what bugs me 606 00:37:01,890 --> 00:37:05,490 about it. And it doesn't matter who it is. But you know what I 607 00:37:05,490 --> 00:37:08,610 mean, you know, that like, oh, yeah, we're disruptive. I know 608 00:37:08,610 --> 00:37:12,030 what you mean, I live here. Get out of the way. We are 609 00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:17,670 disruptive technology. It's arrogant. It's just arrogant. 610 00:37:18,090 --> 00:37:20,520 It's like actually, someone wrote a good article about this. 611 00:37:21,930 --> 00:37:26,430 In PC Magazine, let me see if I have the article here. And 612 00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:33,180 compared 23 Emmys arrogance to the Goldie Blox. You may have 613 00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:36,210 seen this commercial on television, it's girls, and you 614 00:37:36,210 --> 00:37:41,910 know, they're there. It's basically a commercial for kind 615 00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:46,140 of tools for girls. And the whole idea is, girls also want 616 00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:48,390 to be engineers. And you know, we don't just want to have 617 00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:53,040 Barbies, etc. But this company GoldieBlox they use the Beastie 618 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:59,760 Boys, song, girls. They did a parent quote, unquote, parody. 619 00:38:00,090 --> 00:38:04,470 But of course, it can't really fall under the rules of under 620 00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:09,600 the parody ruling of the word. I'm looking for it to 621 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,470 be humorous. 622 00:38:11,580 --> 00:38:17,310 But now, what's the what can I think of that? Well, I don't 623 00:38:17,310 --> 00:38:20,220 know what you're driving when it's parody or news. You can 624 00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:23,820 copy something and it's fair use fair use. Thank you. Very Oh, 625 00:38:23,820 --> 00:38:24,000 that's 626 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:24,660 what you're looking for. 627 00:38:24,690 --> 00:38:27,990 Yes, fair use, but it can't be fair use because they're using 628 00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:31,320 it to promote it's an ad. They're using No, that's 629 00:38:32,219 --> 00:38:38,579 that's a violation. I mean, even first of all, it has to be you 630 00:38:38,579 --> 00:38:41,519 can't do that ads are really they're really rigid about that. 631 00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:44,039 You can't use somebody's likeness. You can't even look 632 00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:49,019 like look alikes are usually up to be sued. There's a lot of if 633 00:38:49,019 --> 00:38:51,089 you're going to make money if you're doing something to make 634 00:38:51,089 --> 00:38:55,139 money off of somebody else's copyrighted work or image or 635 00:38:55,139 --> 00:38:57,959 anything, you will get sued. Let's 636 00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:02,940 check this out. So this is a Silicon Valley company. And Adam 637 00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:06,660 YALC Yao Xiao crowd the Beastie Boys when he died, he put in his 638 00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:09,780 will, that the Beastie Boys music that he was involved in 639 00:39:09,810 --> 00:39:13,500 may never be used for advertising. And so the Beastie 640 00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,350 Boys actually sent this company a note and said, Hey, man, you 641 00:39:16,350 --> 00:39:19,440 know, it's really funny and cool, but we really don't want 642 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,560 you to do that. In fact, our dead partner also specifically 643 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,010 request you don't do that. And this company, turned around and 644 00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:30,660 sued the Beastie Boys first. So this is the arrogance of Silicon 645 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:31,290 Valley, 646 00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:34,590 Silicon Valley, douchebags come to the fore what's the name of 647 00:39:34,590 --> 00:39:36,420 this group? Golden go ox 648 00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:42,990 old D blocks, Gol D iy. BL o x GoldieBlox. The article is 649 00:39:43,020 --> 00:39:45,930 written by Sascha Segan 650 00:39:46,590 --> 00:39:49,740 PCs lashes are the guy who does all the phones and stuff. 651 00:39:50,070 --> 00:39:52,710 But there was a good article and it says the same thing with 652 00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:58,950 23andme. And basically, these people are arrogant, and they're 653 00:39:58,950 --> 00:40:04,530 not alone. Willie, Willie Brown who's your mayor? Was your mayor 654 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,900 Willie Brown, the old the old San Francisco Mayor. 655 00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:09,120 Willie Brown. 656 00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:14,580 Let me see if I can find I can't hear you. Right. Well, this is 657 00:40:14,580 --> 00:40:15,060 loading. 658 00:40:16,290 --> 00:40:18,270 You can't hear me. Well, while it's loading. 659 00:40:18,419 --> 00:40:20,669 I met you. I just hear you breaking up. But that's okay. 660 00:40:20,669 --> 00:40:22,139 Now what who you're looking for? 661 00:40:22,439 --> 00:40:27,809 Was it to I think it was Willie Brown. What did he do? He wrote 662 00:40:27,809 --> 00:40:32,219 an article about I'm looking for it right now wrote an article 663 00:40:32,219 --> 00:40:35,429 about San Francisco saying, you know, you tech companies and 664 00:40:35,429 --> 00:40:38,159 particularly, yeah, Willie Brown says techies have started a 665 00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:40,619 class war in San Francisco. 666 00:40:41,699 --> 00:40:43,019 Yeah, I can buy into this. 667 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,760 Let me let me he I guess he has a column in the in the 668 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,450 newspaper. 669 00:40:48,510 --> 00:40:50,880 I don't know that. He does. But okay. It's called Willie's 670 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:57,420 world. Yeah, and, and he says there's a war brewing in the 671 00:40:57,420 --> 00:40:59,700 streets of San Francisco and a lot of people could get caught 672 00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:02,040 up in it if the tech world doesn't start changing its self 673 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,610 centred culture. Every day in every way from rising rents to 674 00:41:05,610 --> 00:41:08,880 rising prices at restaurants to its private buses, the tech 675 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,940 world is becoming an object of scorn. It is only a matter of 676 00:41:11,940 --> 00:41:15,000 time before the techies youthful lustre fades and they're seen as 677 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,330 just another extension of Wall Street. The Hell yeah, Willie. 678 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,220 Right on. He goes on to say you know, you hit the tech world 679 00:41:23,220 --> 00:41:27,120 needs to nip this thorny plant in the bud. They need to come 680 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,360 off their high cloud efforts to save Africa or wherever they 681 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,860 take adventure vacations and start making things better for 682 00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:37,800 folks right here. They need to start helping in Hunters Point 683 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,830 and in Chinatown, most of our most of all, they need to start 684 00:41:40,830 --> 00:41:45,150 hiring locals. Yes. Very good. 685 00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:48,960 Well, they had a one of the things that what they've done 686 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,840 and Twitter's one of the and Facebook are both offenders 687 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,180 here. But there's other companies that are in the city 688 00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:57,660 that just almost as bad, but they're right downtown, they 689 00:41:57,660 --> 00:42:03,180 were given a sweet deal to to put a their operations right in 690 00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:07,170 the middle of like Market Street where it's just a slum. I mean, 691 00:42:07,170 --> 00:42:11,520 our main street in San Francisco Market Street is a slum. Yeah, 692 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,970 it is. So they put their operations there, but they 693 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,800 essentially put guards and they shuffle over to the you know, 694 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,460 they use a lot of Uber cars and they essentially do not spend 695 00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:26,130 any time on the streets, these people and they go straight into 696 00:42:26,130 --> 00:42:29,310 the office at work. It's a completely you know, kind of a 697 00:42:29,460 --> 00:42:34,200 it's a cocooned environment. And they didn't go out mix or deal 698 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,370 with the homeless or anything. And then they've jetted because 699 00:42:38,370 --> 00:42:42,840 they all seem to be renters, nobody seems except a very few 700 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,320 have a clue about the benefits of property ownership with their 701 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,410 kind of money they have. So they so they've got all these so the 702 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,130 cities over built with extremely expensive apartments. I mean, if 703 00:42:53,130 --> 00:42:55,890 you go past one of these real estate companies, and you look 704 00:42:55,890 --> 00:42:59,040 at these, the prices on these apartments, we're talking about 705 00:42:59,550 --> 00:43:03,150 an apartment that are actually they I guess they're kind of 706 00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:05,880 condo like apartments, maybe they're condos, but whatever 707 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,580 they are, they're millions of dollars. If you looked at the 708 00:43:08,580 --> 00:43:10,260 real estate prices in San Francisco, 709 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,780 I'm waiting for you to get the hell out of there. You got to 710 00:43:12,780 --> 00:43:16,740 pack up before this thing goes by mail going up. So it's like 711 00:43:16,740 --> 00:43:19,260 your own personal Bitcoin. You got to get out John, you got to 712 00:43:19,260 --> 00:43:25,530 cash in now. Your house, which, honestly was I mean, it's it's 713 00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:28,020 eight and all that, but it's probably a $2 million 714 00:43:28,290 --> 00:43:30,900 house now. Not quite well. 715 00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:35,339 You gotta set a line in the sand and get out. I need a backup 716 00:43:35,339 --> 00:43:41,309 plan. My rich friend John, get out. You probably own that 717 00:43:41,309 --> 00:43:43,889 thing. You are old enough. You've lived there long enough? 718 00:43:44,009 --> 00:43:46,829 No, actually, we always take money out of this place. But we 719 00:43:46,829 --> 00:43:50,399 never take so much out because as a writer, they won't give you 720 00:43:50,399 --> 00:43:53,219 the deal. You don't get any take a lot out. They don't get any 721 00:43:53,219 --> 00:43:55,619 deal. They always assume Yeah, you know, you're a bum. 722 00:43:58,409 --> 00:43:59,219 You are a bum. 723 00:43:59,580 --> 00:44:01,980 So they don't give you they won't give you enough to you 724 00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:04,530 know, you can do some some maintenance. But it's not like 725 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,340 so yeah, most of the places paid for and then I have my mother's 726 00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:11,640 old place. Oh, right. And then which is going to be worse. So 727 00:44:11,850 --> 00:44:16,710 eventually, you could you could put 20 Python programmers in 728 00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:17,010 there. 729 00:44:19,020 --> 00:44:24,300 Mimi wants to build these mini houses for people. 730 00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:29,430 Oh, and why don't you just call it Mimi's agenda 20 one.com I'll 731 00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:33,750 be great. 23 and me 23andme services are for research, 732 00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:37,470 informational and educational use only we do not provide 733 00:44:37,470 --> 00:44:41,250 medical advice, which of course is the rub because they are. 734 00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:46,020 This means two things. First, many of the genetic discoveries 735 00:44:46,020 --> 00:44:48,660 that we report have not been clinically validated. And the 736 00:44:48,660 --> 00:44:51,030 technology we use, which is the same technology used by the 737 00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:53,790 research community to date has not been widely used for 738 00:44:53,790 --> 00:44:56,970 clinical testing second, in order to expand and accelerate 739 00:44:56,970 --> 00:44:59,370 the understanding of practical application of genetic knowledge 740 00:44:59,370 --> 00:45:03,030 and healthcare. We invite all genotype users to participate in 741 00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:06,480 the 23. And we research participation. And this is 742 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,470 really what is about this is why 23andme bugs me because they are 743 00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:14,550 the Twitter of health, they essentially are making you pay 744 00:45:14,850 --> 00:45:19,740 for them to build their database to go and sell to really big 745 00:45:19,740 --> 00:45:23,370 firms or, or themselves sell out to be a big firm, because they 746 00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:27,060 have a million different genetic profiles, that is their game, 747 00:45:27,090 --> 00:45:30,210 they don't care about you. And they'll give you anything any 748 00:45:30,210 --> 00:45:33,930 shiny thing that you think is awesome. Like your the chance of 749 00:45:33,930 --> 00:45:38,700 you having micro penis or your kid, if you have micro penis, 750 00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:43,680 you probably know by now you don't need the test. Net, but 751 00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:45,690 some people need 752 00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:47,460 so we're not gonna, 753 00:45:47,969 --> 00:45:51,389 we're not gonna do that we're not going to do that. So I'm 754 00:45:51,389 --> 00:45:53,459 very happy that this has happened. And I want and I'm 755 00:45:53,459 --> 00:45:58,139 very curious to see what the next step will be. I personally 756 00:45:58,169 --> 00:46:02,819 am very interested in using the open source stuff that I think 757 00:46:02,819 --> 00:46:03,839 is kind of cool this 758 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,100 Prometheus results to then throw it into the other system. Yeah, 759 00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:08,250 and 760 00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:13,830 it's and they're accessing the same SM SMP data. So you can 761 00:46:13,830 --> 00:46:17,160 analyse anything, make your own, you know, it's fine, you charted 762 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,820 graphic, do whatever you want. But, you know, but these guys 763 00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:25,590 are charlatans. I tell you charlatans, anyway, but I 764 00:46:25,590 --> 00:46:27,930 thought it was quite funny. Particularly with the dinner 765 00:46:27,930 --> 00:46:30,570 coming up. That should make for an interesting little, 766 00:46:32,310 --> 00:46:35,550 little pin or no height table taken, personally. 767 00:46:36,659 --> 00:46:41,189 And food is always good. Yeah, I guess that helps. And I've 768 00:46:41,189 --> 00:46:44,999 really liked these people. It's not that hard to like people who 769 00:46:44,999 --> 00:46:48,689 just differ in in opinion. You just got to stay away from 770 00:46:48,689 --> 00:46:49,559 certain topics. Well, 771 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,530 as you see, you're live in Berkeley. No, because you're 772 00:46:52,530 --> 00:46:56,070 surrounded, it would be different. You are surrounded. 773 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,220 Well, you're all Hummers, which makes you more annoyed. 774 00:46:59,549 --> 00:47:03,389 You know, Austin is its its own little Berkeley in Texas. 775 00:47:04,049 --> 00:47:08,249 There's no doubt about that. Instead, it's very much 776 00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:11,310 a Deborah Sterling, who is a runner of Goldy bucks doesn't 777 00:47:11,310 --> 00:47:13,740 really she doesn't have much of a background. She is just 778 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,900 essentially just graduated from Stanford 2005. Worked at a 779 00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:23,310 couple of companies for a couple of years. And then she came up 780 00:47:23,310 --> 00:47:29,250 with this idea. It's very actually difficult to find much 781 00:47:29,250 --> 00:47:33,480 on her. She looks like Kiki Stanford, or Stanford. 782 00:47:33,989 --> 00:47:35,099 She's one of those. 783 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,950 She has Yeah, she almost has the exact same look. 784 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,420 And I'm all for what I like her product. I like the idea of 785 00:47:42,420 --> 00:47:43,080 selling spray 786 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,680 probably but this idea of of exploiting, you know, of going 787 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,680 off the reservation and pulling a stunt like this and then suing 788 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,390 the Beastie Boys is really it's abhorrent? 789 00:47:54,420 --> 00:47:58,200 Yes. Yeah. Well, that but that is the arrogance of Silicon 790 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,610 Valley. And we see it everywhere. And it's the basis 791 00:48:02,610 --> 00:48:06,660 of this whole Snowden thing. Everything points right back to 792 00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:11,250 Silicon Valley. With Google's arrogance that you know, they 793 00:48:11,250 --> 00:48:13,800 provide you with all the best things in life and you don't 794 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,490 need to pay for it and and they're they're selling your 795 00:48:17,490 --> 00:48:20,940 data out the backdoor and meanwhile, feigning some great 796 00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:25,320 insult at the front door. You know, the NSA documents have 797 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,870 been being capitalised upon by Glenn Greenwald with a Silicon 798 00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:34,830 Valley Insider. They're selling it in bits and dribs and drabs 799 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,090 the whole thing the whole place is discussed disgust disgust me. 800 00:48:39,570 --> 00:48:44,130 It disgusts me. However, it's Thanksgiving and all I want to 801 00:48:44,130 --> 00:48:47,820 say John is thank you for your courage and in the morning, 802 00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:49,920 yeah, in the morning, do you Adam curry and also want to say 803 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,930 in the morning all the boots on the ground feet in the air subs 804 00:48:51,930 --> 00:48:54,480 in the water and all the Dames and all the nights out there? 805 00:48:54,510 --> 00:48:57,900 Yes. And in the morning to everyone in our chat room. No 806 00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,330 agenda. stream.com no agenda. chat.net Thank you all for 807 00:49:00,330 --> 00:49:04,230 showing up on this. Thanksgiving Day. Those of you in America 808 00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:07,170 Oregon, Canada Navia. I guess you saw it in a different day. 809 00:49:07,410 --> 00:49:10,890 Also, thank you to our artists. And let's see we had nick the 810 00:49:10,890 --> 00:49:19,290 rat, bring us he broke the the hattrick Martin JJs hattrick on 811 00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:23,430 three album arts in a row, and of course no agenda art 812 00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:26,910 generator.com is where you can submit your artwork and it's 813 00:49:26,910 --> 00:49:30,090 there for everyone to see all of the submissions to us of course 814 00:49:30,090 --> 00:49:34,020 however you feel fit. They also show up in the newsletters etc. 815 00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:40,530 So it's not like you don't get on the in the mp3 It's over. And 816 00:49:40,770 --> 00:49:45,930 today, I think we have a couple of yes we do. We have some 817 00:49:45,930 --> 00:49:48,090 executive producers and Associate Executive producers. 818 00:49:48,090 --> 00:49:52,500 These are the people who keep the show running by doing 819 00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:56,790 exactly what the future of all media will be. We need to be 820 00:49:56,790 --> 00:50:01,320 funded directly by the people who are enjoying the product is 821 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,220 value for value. No network is necessary. We don't need to be 822 00:50:05,220 --> 00:50:08,220 have someone like promoting us in some or us to promote other 823 00:50:08,220 --> 00:50:11,520 things. It's just it's just us, us and you. And if you don't 824 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,200 like us, then there'll be no us. 825 00:50:14,730 --> 00:50:19,020 Well, we had a good turnout today. Thank you for this 826 00:50:19,020 --> 00:50:21,870 holiday. I think a lot of people do appreciate the fact that we 827 00:50:21,870 --> 00:50:25,650 work on Thanksgiving while everyone else is sleeping in and 828 00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:30,630 watching football. So we have a couple of big donations that 829 00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:34,170 were suggested in the newsletter. Mark Abbott came in 830 00:50:34,170 --> 00:50:39,510 with $569.69 This is show 569 831 00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:47,340 Wow we had so he's the episode member. Yes, so the 569 Club 832 00:50:47,340 --> 00:50:50,910 getting rarer as an episode number so yeah, these 833 00:50:50,909 --> 00:50:53,729 guys should Reese reboot these these clubs are not 834 00:50:53,730 --> 00:50:59,400 large 107 for a hot pockets tour to Canada donate in person but 835 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,400 instead of just donate online This will finish it by the 836 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,220 reason Alberta where all the money is, as this will finish 837 00:51:05,220 --> 00:51:09,060 off my knighthood. And we have on the list price. It count is 838 00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:12,360 executive producer as well as hopefully the 69 club I feel 839 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,260 it's a triple win. Yes. Because I cannot care about the Xbox 840 00:51:16,260 --> 00:51:20,550 One. I'm showing support for what I do care for. That's very 841 00:51:20,550 --> 00:51:24,900 cool. And my ex was actually in Edmonton. He's not in Alberta. 842 00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:27,120 He's in the classy little town of Edmonton. 843 00:51:27,540 --> 00:51:29,250 Is the Xbox One that expensive? 844 00:51:30,869 --> 00:51:34,949 No, okay. Till he doesn't, but he wants to next bucks want to 845 00:51:34,949 --> 00:51:35,249 know. 846 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,810 No way. So 847 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,870 here we go. The Baron is Silicon Valley, Sir David Foley from 848 00:51:39,870 --> 00:51:42,720 velocity. Lost cat hold on cats. 849 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:48,239 He he is a Duke. He's not a baron. I've had email. 850 00:51:48,989 --> 00:51:51,479 He puts somebody puts bear You're right. He's the Duke. 851 00:51:51,509 --> 00:51:52,469 Yeah, he's a Duke. 852 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,250 And somebody somebody puts keeps putting Baron in the 853 00:51:56,250 --> 00:51:59,250 spreadsheet, which is factually incorrect. 854 00:52:00,449 --> 00:52:05,519 Is $569 Oh my goodness. ITM John and Adam this for providing the 855 00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:07,649 best podcast in the universe on Turkey Day. And I 856 00:52:07,650 --> 00:52:12,900 just want to say I am disgusted by all of Silicon Valley except. 857 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:19,410 Whoa, what did you just do? John? What what are you doing? 858 00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:21,659 And didn't do anything? 859 00:52:21,690 --> 00:52:25,950 Well, you walked away and your your something like brought your 860 00:52:25,950 --> 00:52:28,860 volume up and I heard you I heard the guy coughing on the 861 00:52:28,860 --> 00:52:33,240 street. Wow. Anyway, I was saying that I loathe all of 862 00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:40,980 Silicon Valley except for Sir David Foley are our Duke What 863 00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:41,970 are you looking at peerage? 864 00:52:42,420 --> 00:52:45,450 No, it's not the point. I have a note here and I gotta go find 865 00:52:45,450 --> 00:52:49,530 it. Okay, this is a note from Brian s Hall and arbour Michigan 866 00:52:49,530 --> 00:52:55,890 who has his accounting and brought in came in with the 867 00:52:55,890 --> 00:53:01,080 $533.33 to become a knight is the accounting of the back and 868 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,530 they held this is small notes, so I'll pick it up for the mid 869 00:53:05,070 --> 00:53:05,520 thing. 870 00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:10,110 Why it's just unbelievable. I haven't it wasn't an email or 871 00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:13,290 No, no, no, it's a written notice came in as a check. Okay, 872 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,490 all right, Scott Bennett. We'll get back to Brian Scott. You'll 873 00:53:17,490 --> 00:53:20,190 be surprised by the time we get back to him. Scott Bennett 874 00:53:20,190 --> 00:53:26,640 401 23 Orangeville Ontario no note. Jeremy Johnson at 338 88 875 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,530 and Port Angeles once Washington report angle ease. Happy fakes 876 00:53:31,530 --> 00:53:35,340 giving to the best podcast and universe no better way to piss 877 00:53:35,340 --> 00:53:38,970 off the relatives in the making. Call you sir. Now where are the 878 00:53:38,970 --> 00:53:39,960 hookers and blow? 879 00:53:40,889 --> 00:53:42,599 You should ask your relatives for that meeting 880 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,590 next time he's in Port Angeles nuts. These make it rain for Sir 881 00:53:46,590 --> 00:53:48,270 birch and Eric the shill. 882 00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:52,350 Oh, okay. Write that down. Are we bringing them up on stage or 883 00:53:52,350 --> 00:53:55,080 do we just I'm not gonna bring those I think I think for this 884 00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:00,780 we should call them to the champagne room. Because we have 885 00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:01,770 some waiting, 886 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,690 sir. Bert, you lost your wallet. 887 00:54:06,570 --> 00:54:15,450 Exactly. In the champagne room, in between the couch. Okay, 888 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,310 thank you. Thank you, Jeremy. 889 00:54:18,210 --> 00:54:23,160 Scott in Herndon, Virginia 333 33. Don't read my last name. 890 00:54:23,940 --> 00:54:30,180 I need I read good our ED cuz of common common core value for 891 00:54:30,180 --> 00:54:34,920 value to the best podcast in the universe. I was writing a Warren 892 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,310 Piece note but my machine Colonel panicked. Thank you for 893 00:54:38,310 --> 00:54:43,950 your courage. Wow, thank you. James Spitzer out of Jamaica 894 00:54:43,950 --> 00:54:48,660 Plains also 333 33 and he sent us a note which I sent to you. 895 00:54:50,909 --> 00:54:53,639 We usually try to find the restaurant open on Thanksgiving 896 00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:56,939 and always leave a much larger than normal guilt tip to the 897 00:54:56,939 --> 00:55:00,989 servers who are giving up their holiday to feed our pie. all's I 898 00:55:00,989 --> 00:55:06,119 can do no less for you, Gertrude and Heathcliff. I'm sorry. 899 00:55:06,539 --> 00:55:09,689 That's our names Gertrude and Heathcliff for working while we 900 00:55:09,689 --> 00:55:12,569 enjoy the holiday napping for humanity this year, instead of 901 00:55:12,569 --> 00:55:15,689 going out to a fine restaurant, we will be gathering over our 902 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,259 spiral cut HoneyBaked spam with slices of mac and cheese and 903 00:55:19,259 --> 00:55:22,979 kale to thank you for your courage. The tip loss to the 904 00:55:22,979 --> 00:55:26,609 servers meagre income will be your gain. As always, we will 905 00:55:26,609 --> 00:55:29,639 tune in to listen to the annual story of Thanksgiving, which 906 00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:34,049 never ceases to inspire no matter how many, many many times 907 00:55:34,049 --> 00:55:38,519 we hear it. Yours, James Baron of Jamaica Plain and surrounding 908 00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:43,889 plantations. I've met Serge IP and I have to say Miss Mickey 909 00:55:43,889 --> 00:55:47,879 and I have a little crush on Sir Jim. What do you got going on? 910 00:55:48,149 --> 00:55:51,659 He's just he's got it going on. Yeah, he's 911 00:55:51,929 --> 00:55:56,489 got the letter here from from Brian Moses Hall, who's actually 912 00:55:56,489 --> 00:56:00,839 a ham. Kevin eight. This is yellow. 913 00:56:02,730 --> 00:56:06,690 Kevin eight. This is yellow. This is a new one. We've gone 914 00:56:06,690 --> 00:56:11,310 from Blue Dot fire hydrant. To Kevin eight. This is yellow. 915 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:12,960 Check 916 00:56:14,250 --> 00:56:16,500 in the morning skipper and Gilligan and close find a 917 00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:20,700 donation fighter 373 Which By my calculation brings me to he 918 00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:28,800 wants to be a sir Lulu dark Barber. What he wants to be sir 919 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,000 Lou dark bark. Fudge fountain. 920 00:56:33,869 --> 00:56:37,409 Sir Lu dark. Wat Ba ba 921 00:56:37,410 --> 00:56:42,840 AR K. Fudge fountain. A good friend overheard an eccentric 922 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,770 coworker uttering these words to no one in particular, 923 00:56:47,130 --> 00:56:51,870 sir Lucario by Burke fudge fountain. Yeah, okay. 924 00:56:52,049 --> 00:56:55,709 In spite of the scatological undertone, which I confirm via 925 00:56:55,739 --> 00:56:59,879 Urban Dictionary, we have found this cryptic utterance 926 00:56:59,909 --> 00:57:04,379 deliriously funny, I suspect elf. They weren't for large 927 00:57:04,379 --> 00:57:09,269 corporations, which shall remain anonymous building MRI coils. So 928 00:57:09,269 --> 00:57:12,539 go figure. Yeah, 929 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,740 those guys read the poop. 930 00:57:14,250 --> 00:57:17,370 In lieu of requesting a clip may I suggest that along with the 931 00:57:17,370 --> 00:57:20,970 mutton meat and other goodies, I could easily go for some 932 00:57:21,150 --> 00:57:24,270 librarians and Jager bombs. 933 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,300 Okay, we'll add that to the list. 934 00:57:31,409 --> 00:57:33,299 That's it's always good to say Yeah, got 935 00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:35,820 it. It's already down codified. 936 00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:42,510 Spitzer was last Nolan Conrad 333 33 from Vancouver, British 937 00:57:42,510 --> 00:57:45,780 Columbia, Canada hate crackpot buzzkill was on the 1111 month 938 00:57:45,780 --> 00:57:47,940 he got kicked off, I'm back on and now figured out what to get 939 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,850 makeup for last time. I will turn 33 in January and plan on 940 00:57:50,850 --> 00:57:53,340 becoming an eight before I turned 34. I would like some 941 00:57:53,340 --> 00:57:57,240 karma from my friend Jeff Richardson and a war on chicken 942 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:02,010 sounder if that is still around. Yeah, of course it is. Don't 943 00:58:02,010 --> 00:58:07,380 mention this on the show. I think but I think reading it 944 00:58:07,380 --> 00:58:10,290 now. Let me Yeah. Oh, okay. We won't mention it. 945 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:26,070 You've got karma. There you go. And thank you for your courage 946 00:58:26,070 --> 00:58:27,780 and your support of the programme. 947 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,750 There'll be executive producers on to social executives for 948 00:58:30,750 --> 00:58:34,350 today's show. 569 Anonymous and Mill Valley, California $250. 949 00:58:34,350 --> 00:58:40,380 Tomic Baldric 246 90 In Nutley, New Jersey. The dollar amount 950 00:58:41,490 --> 00:58:45,360 the dollar amount above amounts to the cost I paid at a local 951 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,840 Granger for one lousy circuit breaker. Wow. After learning my 952 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,750 company would cover the expense I chose to pass the bucks to you 953 00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:55,500 instead. After all thanks to JC DS musical talents and his 954 00:58:55,500 --> 00:58:58,440 cultural ear to the ground. Everybody on my Christmas list 955 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:05,280 will be getting the Otama tone. It may not be the next Tickle Me 956 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,510 Elmo, but I'm sure to make an irritatingly memorable Christmas 957 00:59:09,540 --> 00:59:10,140 dinner. 958 00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:13,920 It's like just handed over to your fret your buddy your 959 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,710 family's kids and watch the fun. And by 960 00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:20,940 the way, what we like to do in the Dvorak family, you have like 961 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,960 Eric's got his kids. So what you want to get the kids is like a 962 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:30,420 drum set. One of those mechanical machine guns a 963 00:59:30,420 --> 00:59:34,380 vuvuzela says he's got different kids. You want the both of the 964 00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:38,760 kids to have the machine guns. You're pulling in your shoot. It 965 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:43,230 makes nothing but the worst sounding. drum sets also good. 966 00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:47,550 The kids probably won't be able to get enough volume on. 967 00:59:48,719 --> 00:59:50,189 It's funny. You really do that. 968 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,980 That's again, it gives you you actually do that. 969 00:59:54,270 --> 00:59:57,570 Yeah, I bet you do. You're you're in a hole like that. You 970 00:59:57,570 --> 01:00:00,510 are good to Eric's Kids, 971 01:00:01,710 --> 01:00:07,170 says you Yeah. Oh Richardson Richfield Minnesota nuts. To 972 01:00:07,170 --> 01:00:10,710 2222. It's been a while since my last contribution. I'm feeling a 973 01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:16,050 little douchey. So here's a bag of deuces. Thank you. Joshua 974 01:00:16,050 --> 01:00:20,010 Dietrich in Kirkland, Washington to 20 to 22. The fact that Paul 975 01:00:20,010 --> 01:00:23,190 and I donated 299 on November 10, to show was pure 976 01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:26,730 coincidence, despite the jingle. By the way, thanks for playing 977 01:00:26,730 --> 01:00:29,790 the in the morning song this Sunday. I run a half marathon 978 01:00:29,790 --> 01:00:31,800 for the first time ever I plan to listen to show while running 979 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,120 so some karma would be fantastic right now. At approximately 10 980 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,730 minutes, 30 seconds per mile. I hope to finish the run in two 981 01:00:38,730 --> 01:00:41,700 hours. 22 minutes and 22 seconds. Let's know how that 982 01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:44,160 goes. Yeah, thanks for taking time out of your Thanksgiving to 983 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,570 do the show. You guys are great. 984 01:00:46,110 --> 01:00:48,630 That's nice. Josh is a little bit of a running karma for you 985 01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:51,720 as requested. You've got karma 986 01:00:55,469 --> 01:01:02,759 we got Arliss ven nonnamous In Mechanicsville, Virginie to 20 987 01:01:02,759 --> 01:01:06,359 to 20 to make it rain twice for my super hot petite milk yet 988 01:01:06,359 --> 01:01:11,939 Jenine who was in Austin for Thanksgiving, but I'm not tired 989 01:01:11,939 --> 01:01:14,909 of being a Boehner and looking for some karma for the holidays. 990 01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:19,709 Also wanted? That sounds like a commercial. Really what is tired 991 01:01:19,709 --> 01:01:22,169 of being a Boehner looking for some karma for the holidays? 992 01:01:22,799 --> 01:01:25,409 Check out the new agenda show no agenda? show.com 993 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,460 So we're gonna do the Make It Rain during the regular segment, 994 01:01:29,460 --> 01:01:31,500 right? We'll do Yeah, okay. You are you writing these names? 995 01:01:31,530 --> 01:01:33,930 names down? Janine, you got Janine, you gotta call her to 996 01:01:33,930 --> 01:01:34,950 the main stage. 997 01:01:35,010 --> 01:01:38,070 She got it early because I already got a script but okay. 998 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:46,470 Writers on this thing you got a team. Your team? You're writing 999 01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:46,950 team. 1000 01:01:48,989 --> 01:01:51,689 He says I want to suggestions for cooking a Thanksgiving meal 1001 01:01:51,689 --> 01:01:55,499 I can make Well my wife is away. turkey sandwiches. 1002 01:01:56,010 --> 01:01:59,340 Turkey loaf is already cooked one 800 Domino's my friend. 1003 01:02:00,270 --> 01:02:03,240 Good wine selection. You know, Turkey is great because it goes 1004 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,790 with everything. So you can have champagne, which I would 1005 01:02:05,790 --> 01:02:06,540 recommend which is 1006 01:02:06,540 --> 01:02:08,910 what I got from my friends upon your recommendation. 1007 01:02:08,940 --> 01:02:14,910 Yes. You got some poll, Roget. Yeah. champagnes a winner. 1008 01:02:15,570 --> 01:02:20,340 Beaujolais is a winner. pinos a winner actually vollum Cabernet 1009 01:02:20,340 --> 01:02:22,800 is probably the weakest one I think good Chardonnay would also 1010 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:23,340 where I really 1011 01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:25,680 liked your suggestion of the champagne though because that's 1012 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,700 like yeah, I can see how that really goes well with Oh yeah. 1013 01:02:29,790 --> 01:02:32,460 with Turkey. Although I think people would like most people 1014 01:02:32,610 --> 01:02:35,040 think oh, what we're not celebrating anything. 1015 01:02:35,550 --> 01:02:38,430 No the champagne. People are irked about this meme by the way 1016 01:02:38,460 --> 01:02:41,730 the celebration thing it's only champagne should not be seen as 1017 01:02:41,730 --> 01:02:45,000 a celebrate me you can if you want for some celebration but 1018 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,350 for what Champagne is a dinner wine. Is a very specific dinner 1019 01:02:49,350 --> 01:02:53,040 wine you can have it anytime you want. And it goes with pretty 1020 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,620 much everything you know any goes great 1021 01:02:55,620 --> 01:02:57,420 with Janine in the champagne room. 1022 01:02:58,020 --> 01:03:04,020 They would but that Champagne is yours the junk by the way. They 1023 01:03:04,020 --> 01:03:04,950 don't have good champagne 1024 01:03:04,949 --> 01:03:06,719 and has joined depends on who you know. 1025 01:03:10,139 --> 01:03:13,979 Sir Brian Ferguson and Foothill Ranch California also to 2222 1026 01:03:13,979 --> 01:03:16,649 He's on the Sunday show. I made a simple comment. I am a night 1027 01:03:16,649 --> 01:03:20,129 not a new night is wanted to be called Sir Brian. We reunited. 1028 01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:24,569 Reunited me it felt kind of weird. I have a ring already. So 1029 01:03:24,839 --> 01:03:28,589 Thursday show I'm a double night after this contribution. Baronet 1030 01:03:28,859 --> 01:03:32,369 just figured out how close I wasn't. It was so close to two 1031 01:03:32,369 --> 01:03:35,519 times make it rain. What the heck. So my two names are my two 1032 01:03:35,519 --> 01:03:37,349 ex wife Shirley and Donna. 1033 01:03:38,550 --> 01:03:44,670 Write them down. Perfect. Perfect. Well, that's a good 1034 01:03:44,670 --> 01:03:49,560 that's a an that. Thank you. I was if people want to know what 1035 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,560 I'm thankful for, besides my the two beautiful women in my life, 1036 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,310 my daughter, my wife. I am very thankful that there are people 1037 01:03:56,310 --> 01:04:00,270 out there who give a crap about what we say and actually listen 1038 01:04:00,270 --> 01:04:02,670 to us and are interested in helping us. 1039 01:04:03,210 --> 01:04:06,330 Yes, I appreciate that to an extreme. I want to thank 1040 01:04:06,330 --> 01:04:09,270 everybody who became a producer or executive producer for the 1041 01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:14,700 show and I want to remind you to go to divorce.org/in A to help 1042 01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:17,400 us out for the show coming up on Sunday which is essentially the 1043 01:04:17,490 --> 01:04:20,460 the end of the holiday weekend where we'll be driving back and 1044 01:04:20,460 --> 01:04:21,900 we were here we are working again. 1045 01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:26,550 That's right. That's right. All right, because it's what we do. 1046 01:04:27,330 --> 01:04:29,970 Miss Mickey is out in LA she's you know she did her shoot on 1047 01:04:29,970 --> 01:04:33,900 Wednesday. She's not coming back until Saturday. Hmm. How does 1048 01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:34,380 that work? 1049 01:04:34,409 --> 01:04:39,839 You got this texter the sex texter chicken border so 1050 01:04:41,790 --> 01:04:45,240 I want to thank clearly a no agenda producer for putting in a 1051 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:52,770 great Easter egg slash PR moment although, you know, it's been 1052 01:04:52,770 --> 01:04:56,460 completely misinterpreted by the mainstream media, obviously, but 1053 01:04:56,460 --> 01:05:00,300 people in the know are clear that the person who does This 1054 01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:03,300 particular computer programming is a listener of the best 1055 01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:05,280 podcast in the universe to Georgia 1056 01:05:05,279 --> 01:05:07,649 now where DeKalb County officials are scratching their 1057 01:05:07,649 --> 01:05:11,369 heads over a jewel form, the online form lists slave as an 1058 01:05:11,369 --> 01:05:14,789 occupation. But central jurors who filled out the new forms 1059 01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:18,449 said they selected s for sales. But what they got was the 1060 01:05:18,449 --> 01:05:20,099 occupation slave. 1061 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,690 Yeah, I was gonna clip that too. It's very funny. You know, 1062 01:05:24,690 --> 01:05:24,840 that's 1063 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,330 gotta be that's got to be a no agenda producer. 1064 01:05:27,420 --> 01:05:28,290 I hope so. 1065 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,000 Yeah. But the funny thing is, they 1066 01:05:29,999 --> 01:05:33,089 just slipped it in. So at some point, just, but it was just, it 1067 01:05:33,089 --> 01:05:35,969 was a totally easter egg a bomb. He's like one of the things you 1068 01:05:35,969 --> 01:05:38,639 kind of do. Nobody can catch you there. They're gonna look into 1069 01:05:38,639 --> 01:05:38,879 it. 1070 01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:42,479 But here's the crazy thing is I saw at least four reports. 1071 01:05:43,529 --> 01:05:46,679 Mainstream media reports and they're and they're showing or 1072 01:05:46,739 --> 01:05:50,039 asking people on the street, but only black people. How do you 1073 01:05:50,039 --> 01:05:53,459 feel about that? It's like, but slave, you know, Slack. 1074 01:05:53,580 --> 01:05:55,650 I saw they had a one cup of white people in one of the 1075 01:05:55,650 --> 01:05:58,470 stations. And they laughed about it thought it was hilarious. 1076 01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:02,519 Yeah, because I mean, everyone's him. This is not the term slave. 1077 01:06:02,729 --> 01:06:05,309 And this is this is I guess what I take exception to this for 1078 01:06:05,309 --> 01:06:08,849 some reason. Whenever you hear the word slave, we were only 1079 01:06:08,849 --> 01:06:12,959 allowed to think that is the black man working for the white 1080 01:06:12,959 --> 01:06:16,829 man on the plantation. Whereas we had slaves in Egypt. We still 1081 01:06:16,829 --> 01:06:20,009 got slaves everywhere in the world slaves you got slaves were 1082 01:06:20,009 --> 01:06:23,309 slaves were slaves to the man. That's it's a generalised term. 1083 01:06:23,519 --> 01:06:27,209 And I we have to take that back a little bit. I feel we can't 1084 01:06:27,209 --> 01:06:32,789 let that just be one type of a visual for people. That's maybe 1085 01:06:32,789 --> 01:06:39,599 just me. No agenda. People know what it's all about vorak.org/n 1086 01:06:39,689 --> 01:06:42,239 A and why don't you go out and find some of your fellow slaves 1087 01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:43,619 and propagate our formula? 1088 01:06:44,339 --> 01:06:49,019 Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth 1089 01:07:00,179 --> 01:07:10,589 shut up. There we go. There we go. Ah, because Mickey was out 1090 01:07:10,589 --> 01:07:14,639 of town. I had a lot of time to look into stuff. A lot. 1091 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,970 Yeah, she's not running around the town. Yeah, that's okay. 1092 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:22,860 Yeah, well, what did you find out? 1093 01:07:23,010 --> 01:07:25,200 Well, I looked into a number of things you want to talk about 1094 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:25,830 Iran. 1095 01:07:27,150 --> 01:07:29,190 I always I love talking about Iran. 1096 01:07:29,429 --> 01:07:35,579 Iran is so we had this deal. This, all of a sudden, this this 1097 01:07:35,579 --> 01:07:40,889 big deal. And, and I think the people getting a raw deal in 1098 01:07:40,889 --> 01:07:44,729 general, about what this is really about. Because if you 1099 01:07:44,729 --> 01:07:50,849 listen to the news, then it's only about the bomb and you 1100 01:07:50,849 --> 01:07:54,149 know, making the bomb. And then we can let them have a bomb. And 1101 01:07:54,449 --> 01:07:56,579 it's all about the bomb. So let me play a couple of these 1102 01:07:56,579 --> 01:07:59,789 things. And there was some confusion, of course, because 1103 01:07:59,909 --> 01:08:03,029 there's actually no deal nothing is nothing has really happened. 1104 01:08:03,809 --> 01:08:07,649 Here is see which order should I play this and I think this is 1105 01:08:08,579 --> 01:08:12,389 Kerry with Candy Crowley talking about what this deal is not 1106 01:08:12,420 --> 01:08:17,250 so you, at this point, trust Hassan Rouhani, the new 1107 01:08:17,250 --> 01:08:22,320 president in Iran to be able to follow through, 1108 01:08:22,380 --> 01:08:26,640 are you convinced that he has the power to do so because you 1109 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:31,320 know that the hardliners in Iran? Certainly are singing a 1110 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:35,280 different tune than has been sung at the negotiating table? 1111 01:08:36,060 --> 01:08:42,120 Absolutely. Absolutely. We're well aware of that. And the 1112 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:47,160 simple answer to you is, none of this is based on trust. It's not 1113 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:48,840 a question of trust. Yeah, 1114 01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:50,700 that's what I'm like, Oh, really? 1115 01:08:50,730 --> 01:08:53,760 Is this guy by the way? This guy, that little tongue thing he 1116 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,150 does? He's still happening. Yeah. Does that bother you? It 1117 01:08:57,150 --> 01:08:57,960 creeps me out. 1118 01:08:57,990 --> 01:09:02,760 I learned a long time ago from a CIA agent, that when you are 1119 01:09:03,060 --> 01:09:05,940 meeting with someone, and when they do that, when they stick 1120 01:09:05,940 --> 01:09:09,150 their tongue out like that, whatever they proceeded, that 1121 01:09:09,150 --> 01:09:14,190 motion was a lie. That is how I've been taught to interpret 1122 01:09:14,190 --> 01:09:19,560 the tongue. And if you look at his speech I play a little bit 1123 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:27,330 of that as well. Here is explaining you see it's right 1124 01:09:27,330 --> 01:09:33,210 here. Iran has the has no right to enrich yet they can which he 1125 01:09:33,210 --> 01:09:36,360 I guess he's doing with Stephanopoulos every single time 1126 01:09:36,510 --> 01:09:39,150 that lie, there's something that you would even think is a lie. 1127 01:09:39,180 --> 01:09:42,060 The tongue comes out. It's not consistent. It's not like always 1128 01:09:42,060 --> 01:09:45,270 licking his lips or anything. It really is when right after he 1129 01:09:45,270 --> 01:09:45,900 tells a lie. 1130 01:09:45,930 --> 01:09:50,220 What is the US position does the US respect and recognise that 1131 01:09:50,220 --> 01:09:52,380 right of Iran? Yes or no? 1132 01:09:53,010 --> 01:09:57,630 No, there is no right to enrich. We do not recognise a right to 1133 01:09:57,630 --> 01:10:03,600 enrich. It is clear you In the, in the NPT, in the Non 1134 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,800 Proliferation Treaty, it's very, very clear that there is no 1135 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:12,060 right to and read, however, but under the terms of this 1136 01:10:12,060 --> 01:10:16,260 agreement, there will be a negotiation over whether or not 1137 01:10:16,260 --> 01:10:21,270 they could have a very limited, completely verifiable, 1138 01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:25,830 extraordinarily constrained programme, where they might have 1139 01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:29,490 some medical research or other things they could do. But there 1140 01:10:29,490 --> 01:10:33,120 is no inherent right to enrich. And everywhere in this 1141 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,620 particular agreement, it states that they could only do that by 1142 01:10:37,620 --> 01:10:41,610 mutual agreement, and that nothing is agreed on until 1143 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,110 everything is agreed on. 1144 01:10:43,140 --> 01:10:48,600 Okay. And so here, I'm like, alright, what is this really 1145 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,580 about him started getting interested, then he does a 1146 01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:54,690 little video, which was published on video.state.gov, 1147 01:10:54,690 --> 01:10:57,990 which was meant for Congress, but it was published for the 1148 01:10:57,990 --> 01:11:03,630 public. And he's talking to the can the Congress, men, women and 1149 01:11:03,630 --> 01:11:07,920 Senators, as if they're morons, by the way, so Well, maybe 1150 01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:11,700 rightly so. And here is his explicit explanation of 1151 01:11:11,700 --> 01:11:14,010 enrichment. And as a couple of things, he said in here, that 1152 01:11:14,010 --> 01:11:15,450 maybe go down the rabbit hole 1153 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,220 on enrichment, we are eliminating Iran's stockpile of 1154 01:11:20,220 --> 01:11:23,640 already enriched 20% enriched uranium, 1155 01:11:23,670 --> 01:11:27,360 by the way, the fact that he's saying Iran and not Iran tells 1156 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,480 us there's no agenda producers and listeners, he's not really 1157 01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:34,710 in on the deal. Because we know right, people who are really in 1158 01:11:34,740 --> 01:11:37,710 with what's going on, who are really doing the business, they 1159 01:11:37,710 --> 01:11:39,810 say Iran, we are, 1160 01:11:40,410 --> 01:11:43,770 it's a code, it's code. They're a centrifuge programme, where it 1161 01:11:43,770 --> 01:11:44,400 is today, 1162 01:11:44,430 --> 01:11:47,220 hold on, listen to what listen to the words he's using here. 1163 01:11:47,850 --> 01:11:52,020 Uranium, we are holding their centrifuge programme, we are 1164 01:11:52,020 --> 01:11:56,460 holding their centrifuge programme where it is today. And 1165 01:11:56,460 --> 01:12:01,050 we are stopping them from using their most advanced centrifuges. 1166 01:12:01,260 --> 01:12:05,910 These are centrifuges that can separate uranium very quickly 1167 01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:10,140 and do the wrench Richmond very fast. So they're very risky. And 1168 01:12:10,140 --> 01:12:13,680 that's why we keep them away from that process. For now, 1169 01:12:13,710 --> 01:12:16,140 we keep them away from that process. For now, 1170 01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:19,470 on plutonium, we're putting on hold 1171 01:12:19,500 --> 01:12:23,820 the most we're putting on hold, we're putting on hold meaningful 1172 01:12:23,820 --> 01:12:28,170 parts of their reactor that's currently under construction, in 1173 01:12:28,170 --> 01:12:33,510 a place called Iraq, Iran. Now this is their most likely source 1174 01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:37,650 of plutonium. And that's why it's something we are absolutely 1175 01:12:37,650 --> 01:12:38,190 determined. 1176 01:12:39,870 --> 01:12:43,770 So he's talking like he's a supplier of parts, which, in 1177 01:12:43,770 --> 01:12:49,260 fact, is exactly what's happening. This is about So this 1178 01:12:49,740 --> 01:12:53,010 agreement, which we don't really have, truly the written 1179 01:12:53,010 --> 01:12:55,320 agreement, nothing has really been set in stone, there's been 1180 01:12:55,320 --> 01:13:00,330 all kinds of back and forth, the the news media, then their 1181 01:13:00,420 --> 01:13:04,980 typical political oscillation, are showing you this is about 1182 01:13:04,980 --> 01:13:07,950 stopping them from getting a nuclear weapon or creating a 1183 01:13:07,950 --> 01:13:10,800 bomb or killing everybody in the Middle East, which, of course, 1184 01:13:11,010 --> 01:13:16,590 is ludicrous. You know, that to be frightened into something 1185 01:13:16,590 --> 01:13:21,120 that they believe this bullcrap, I went, and I found the 1186 01:13:21,150 --> 01:13:27,240 sanctions as they stand against Iran, and held that against what 1187 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,290 was published on whitehouse.gov as to what the our end of the 1188 01:13:31,290 --> 01:13:34,050 bargain is going to be. And here's, here's the way you have 1189 01:13:34,050 --> 01:13:36,360 to look at this. And this will be a conversation for you around 1190 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,420 your Thanksgiving Day table. When everyone says, Boy, we're 1191 01:13:39,420 --> 01:13:44,430 so happy that President Barack Obama and John F. Kerry are 1192 01:13:44,430 --> 01:13:48,360 saving us from the evil Iranians. This is not what 1193 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,760 that's about. This is about determining who gets to do 1194 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:55,260 business with Iran and in Iran, because this isn't the sanctions 1195 01:13:55,260 --> 01:14:00,630 are 80 pages. And if you look at what they're saying in their so 1196 01:14:00,630 --> 01:14:06,660 called Deal Memo, John, this is only about who gets to buy 1197 01:14:06,660 --> 01:14:11,820 petroleum and petroleum products from Iran. It's it the sanctions 1198 01:14:11,820 --> 01:14:14,280 are not against Iran, the sanctions against other 1199 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:21,660 countries. So to give an example, we have the companies 1200 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,860 and countries that are allowed to buy from Iran that we have 1201 01:14:25,860 --> 01:14:30,930 somehow determined are allowed to buy from Iran exclude a whole 1202 01:14:30,930 --> 01:14:35,100 bunch of other countries is it's really quite funny when you see 1203 01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:39,090 who is and who and who isn't allowed to buy. So we have since 1204 01:14:39,090 --> 01:14:41,940 1998, by the way these sanctions been going on for a long time 1205 01:14:41,940 --> 01:14:45,630 because it is a regulation of a market. This is not has nothing 1206 01:14:45,630 --> 01:14:50,610 to do with terrorism or nuclear warfare since 1998. The 1207 01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:55,440 companies that are that have a waiver for sanctions are total 1208 01:14:55,500 --> 01:14:59,940 of France, Gazprom from Russia and PETRONAS from Malaysia. 1209 01:15:02,430 --> 01:15:08,130 exempted our stock oil from Norway Eni, from Italy Royal 1210 01:15:08,130 --> 01:15:12,000 Dutch Shell and Britain in the Netherlands. sanctioned however 1211 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:17,010 Bella rousse Bella rosneath No you can't buy oil sanction 1212 01:15:17,010 --> 01:15:19,980 petrochemical commercial company international Bailiwick of 1213 01:15:19,980 --> 01:15:24,630 Jersey and Iran Royster group from the United Arab Emirates 1214 01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:29,280 tanker Pacific from Singapore, all the Monaco, Venezuela, all 1215 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,670 these people, no, you can't buy the oil. This is and by the way, 1216 01:15:32,670 --> 01:15:36,960 is not oil that goes into your truck, or your car. These are 1217 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,590 petrochemical products that are necessary for life as we know it 1218 01:15:40,590 --> 01:15:45,360 today. It's the light sweet crude that is really necessary 1219 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,310 for products at correct John. 1220 01:15:48,420 --> 01:15:53,520 Well, sweet, crude, or heavy crude or any of them are goes 1221 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,100 through a refinery and then they can be made into anything from 1222 01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:58,860 gasoline to kerosene to jet fuel to plastic. 1223 01:15:59,070 --> 01:16:02,010 Right. But we've already determined that a lot of this is 1224 01:16:02,010 --> 01:16:05,760 not necessarily about stuff that is going into your car. It is 1225 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,660 the derivative petroleum products that Iran has in 1226 01:16:09,660 --> 01:16:11,220 abundance that we really need. 1227 01:16:12,060 --> 01:16:16,890 That that really, that would be most like crude tends to be end 1228 01:16:16,890 --> 01:16:24,360 up as diesel or gasoline. Hmm. I don't think it changes your 1229 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:25,470 thesis. Okay. 1230 01:16:25,860 --> 01:16:32,790 There's a a change in some of the rules. Iran may not accept 1231 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:38,880 gold for payment for their oil and petroleum products. This is 1232 01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:40,830 stipulated so no, that's 1233 01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:43,980 again. Yeah. But that's actually a good catch. Because, you know, 1234 01:16:43,980 --> 01:16:47,460 there's there's all of this going to your petro dollar 1235 01:16:47,490 --> 01:16:51,030 and we need to keep them on the dollar. Of course. Yeah. And, 1236 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:56,580 and we the United States, we are regulating the money. Because we 1237 01:16:56,580 --> 01:17:01,020 have it all locked up. You see. So if if a company is going to 1238 01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:04,080 buy some oil or petroleum products from Iran, it runs 1239 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:09,750 through us. It is a great for some reason, someone decided, 1240 01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:13,410 hey, we need to open that up a little bit. But the United 1241 01:17:13,410 --> 01:17:17,670 States, we I guess somehow through John Kerry are 1242 01:17:17,670 --> 01:17:22,320 determining who gets to buy this and who doesn't get to buy this. 1243 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,530 And the sanction. This is kind of, I don't know if you saw, 1244 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,140 like they were all congratulating and hugging each 1245 01:17:28,140 --> 01:17:31,320 other. And you had Carrie hugging that no neck, no chin 1246 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:35,310 monster, the High Representative, Baroness Ashton. 1247 01:17:36,180 --> 01:17:38,790 They're all high five. And yeah, the qualifications 1248 01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:41,430 does she have to bear in that job? 1249 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,310 Well, she's the reason why she was there. Of course, she's 1250 01:17:44,340 --> 01:17:46,530 these are all people who are part of the Security Council. 1251 01:17:46,860 --> 01:17:51,360 It's the P five plus one, which is the Big Five and oh, yeah, 1252 01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,240 we'll add the crowds in there, get my nation Deutschland is the 1253 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:58,710 plus one or the EU three plus three, well, these code things. 1254 01:17:59,070 --> 01:18:01,770 But this is all about who gets the who gets the oil, who gets 1255 01:18:01,860 --> 01:18:05,280 it. The sanctions are not against Iran, the sanctions are 1256 01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,860 against the all the other countries and we're determining 1257 01:18:07,860 --> 01:18:12,090 who gets to have some of it. But we're being misled into 1258 01:18:12,090 --> 01:18:15,390 believing this is like some deal. And everybody on 1259 01:18:15,390 --> 01:18:18,210 television, all the talking heads are talking about bomb 1260 01:18:18,210 --> 01:18:24,240 this bomb, that it's bullshit. We know from Iranians that in 1261 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,260 Iran, people are like, they're on the same page, the Americans 1262 01:18:28,260 --> 01:18:30,510 and the Iranians. It's a big show. 1263 01:18:30,810 --> 01:18:34,800 But have we did the VA deconstructed this enough? Or 1264 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,950 have you to determine what is Israel's role in all this? 1265 01:18:37,950 --> 01:18:40,290 Because they seem to be the most bent out of shape about? 1266 01:18:40,290 --> 01:18:42,240 Well, I think they're bent out of shape, because they've got 1267 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:46,020 the Leviathan field, which is gas and oil. And you know, and 1268 01:18:46,020 --> 01:18:48,870 they need to sell it, they need to start up the they need to 1269 01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:52,650 start sales. That's the only thing I can I can see, you know, 1270 01:18:52,650 --> 01:18:56,340 this is the discovery of the leviathan field really turned 1271 01:18:56,340 --> 01:18:59,670 Israel from a net importer to an exporter. And they need to get 1272 01:18:59,670 --> 01:19:04,530 going particularly to countries that they have relatively close 1273 01:19:04,530 --> 01:19:06,570 access to outside the Mediterranean, which, you know, 1274 01:19:06,570 --> 01:19:09,420 through Cyprus and Greece and or even Italy would be 1275 01:19:10,169 --> 01:19:14,579 over this a million times. But I just it just seems to be not 1276 01:19:14,579 --> 01:19:17,519 being convinced of the this being the sole purpose of their 1277 01:19:17,549 --> 01:19:21,929 their objections and their sabre rattling and when do we did have 1278 01:19:21,929 --> 01:19:24,989 you figured out why these countries have been kind of 1279 01:19:25,019 --> 01:19:32,219 circumscribed from the ability to trade with Iran? What What 1280 01:19:32,219 --> 01:19:36,059 the I'm sorry, one example of one country why we hate them? 1281 01:19:36,570 --> 01:19:39,990 Well, I'm sorry, it's funny you say that because I didn't say I 1282 01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:44,760 didn't mention any countries I mentioned companies. And these 1283 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:50,160 companies are in particular countries issues ownership. You 1284 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,160 know, we don't own anything, any of this Venezuela crap. So no, 1285 01:19:53,190 --> 01:20:02,400 not in denied. That's, that's it makes its total Oh, it's BP, its 1286 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:06,000 shell. It's you know, it's the Seven Sisters or whatever 1287 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,120 they're called. It's those guys. We get to those they get to 1288 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:14,610 participate. Everybody else eff off. It's our we control it. The 1289 01:20:14,610 --> 01:20:18,270 United States runs Iran. That's, that is that's just what I'm 1290 01:20:18,270 --> 01:20:21,540 gonna have to state. We're running it. We own it, we 1291 01:20:21,540 --> 01:20:25,050 determine who gets what this deal is not about nuclear 1292 01:20:25,050 --> 01:20:28,800 weapons is deals about who gets to have some, and who was Barack 1293 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:33,720 Obama doling it out to today? On March 20 2012, the Secretary of 1294 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,730 State announced the first group of 11 countries that have 1295 01:20:35,730 --> 01:20:38,850 achieved an exemption for significantly reducing oil 1296 01:20:38,850 --> 01:20:42,150 purchases. So here are the countries that reduce Belgium 1297 01:20:42,150 --> 01:20:44,550 Czech Republic France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Japan, the 1298 01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:47,640 Netherlands, Poland, Spain, Britain, the exemptions for 1299 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,450 these 11 countries were all renewed. Took me who's renewing 1300 01:20:51,450 --> 01:20:57,360 it we're the boss of this we say you can't take from Iran and 1301 01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,600 then people do it. Now we say oh, you can have a little more 1302 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,950 it's it's like 4 billion in annual sales which is nothing 1303 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:11,490 but you know, so maybe it's being misused to to change the 1304 01:21:11,490 --> 01:21:16,590 new cycle since it is a relatively small a small deal 1305 01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:21,180 but the funny thing is you think that it's a deal with Iran but 1306 01:21:21,180 --> 01:21:23,910 it's not that's why everyone's like hug and carry all Thank 1307 01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:28,320 you. Well, thank you I can have more oil now. Thank you so much. 1308 01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:32,640 I appreciate that's what it is. It's crazy. eight holes we rock. 1309 01:21:33,180 --> 01:21:37,860 We really really do. And when Hillary Clinton gets in and 1310 01:21:37,860 --> 01:21:38,640 she's pregnant Yeah, 1311 01:21:38,699 --> 01:21:42,569 I should say she'll she'll up the ante on all this stuff. Oh 1312 01:21:42,569 --> 01:21:45,629 yeah, well she she laid the ground she's actually want to be 1313 01:21:45,659 --> 01:21:50,459 be called the Queen Empress is gonna change your name you watch 1314 01:21:50,489 --> 01:21:52,829 it's gonna be like Ming the merciless 1315 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:58,950 she well, she deserves it. As you know I'm I'm a big fan I 1316 01:21:58,950 --> 01:22:07,440 think we should it's important people understand that that we 1317 01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:10,470 have to make it worse before it gets better. So we got to get 1318 01:22:10,470 --> 01:22:15,630 her in. Anyway the the on hold thing. There's a lot of GE parts 1319 01:22:15,630 --> 01:22:20,250 that they need for for their reactors for the centrifuges and 1320 01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:25,230 GE you know, gets to sell some but not all so it's all it's all 1321 01:22:25,230 --> 01:22:29,670 controlled. We've been controlling parts for their 1322 01:22:30,330 --> 01:22:37,590 aircraft for their O's see we even control the the iAds parts 1323 01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:41,310 for their air buses which apparently they have a few we 1324 01:22:41,310 --> 01:22:42,930 control it all this document. 1325 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,010 Maybe Netanyahu is just clueless Do you think that's possible 1326 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:53,190 now now? No. It could be he's just just wants it maybe he just 1327 01:22:53,190 --> 01:22:54,810 wants a reality show 1328 01:22:57,690 --> 01:23:02,070 I'm not completely buying his position is whatever well we 1329 01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:07,290 had the well it could also be John let's look at it from a 1330 01:23:07,290 --> 01:23:09,540 different perspective and remember he held up the the 1331 01:23:09,540 --> 01:23:13,110 drawing of the wily coyote bomb at the United Nations with a 1332 01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:17,520 little fuse in it with the arrow so maybe he's just the layup man 1333 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:22,140 maybe he's just setting it up for for us to hammer it in to 1334 01:23:22,140 --> 01:23:22,680 keep people 1335 01:23:23,310 --> 01:23:27,000 good be the setup guy right to the possibilities front man just 1336 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:27,180 keep 1337 01:23:27,180 --> 01:23:29,880 everybody focused on the bomb the bomb the bomb meanwhile, 1338 01:23:30,150 --> 01:23:34,170 don't look at other exporters to Iran. Let's see I have the list 1339 01:23:34,170 --> 01:23:40,320 here. It's in the sanctions. Here are the companies who have 1340 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:47,880 been allowed to export to Iran Mars company Kraft Foods, 1341 01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:55,290 Wrigley's McCormick and CO so they've got candy bars, chewing 1342 01:23:55,290 --> 01:23:57,930 gum, mac and cheese and some spices. 1343 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,930 And they have plenty of spices in I think the McCormick deal is 1344 01:24:03,930 --> 01:24:06,000 to get McCormick in so they get spices out 1345 01:24:06,030 --> 01:24:08,730 well so now what's happened yes well now what's happening is you 1346 01:24:08,730 --> 01:24:10,710 seeing because the sanctions were lifted you're seeing 1347 01:24:10,710 --> 01:24:13,080 companies everywhere freaking out because they don't want to 1348 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:19,620 get in because it's going to be a Libya like Bonanza without the 1349 01:24:19,710 --> 01:24:23,310 bomb dropping down towards about the war zone. Yeah, so here's 1350 01:24:23,310 --> 01:24:27,120 the Oh f AC had approved exports to Iran have condiments such as 1351 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:35,070 ice cream sprinkles. Hey, hey, Muhammad Mustafa. You Persian. 1352 01:24:35,670 --> 01:24:41,190 How's your sprinkles? Enjoy the American sprinkles, hot sauces, 1353 01:24:41,310 --> 01:24:46,560 bodybuilding supplements all all being exported to Iran. You 1354 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,900 wouldn't think it though the way you hear everyone talking like 1355 01:24:48,900 --> 01:24:51,780 they're the most of the crazy crazy you're gonna kill us blow 1356 01:24:51,780 --> 01:24:57,270 us up. So that was an eye opener for me that just like this, this 1357 01:24:57,270 --> 01:25:01,080 deal we're seeing it all upside down. Is the Deal is not about a 1358 01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:06,090 bomb. It's about who gets to profit from Iran. And I am 1359 01:25:06,180 --> 01:25:09,000 looking at the people who are jumping up and down looking at 1360 01:25:09,900 --> 01:25:12,570 Baroness Ashton. I'm thinking this might have been a little 1361 01:25:12,570 --> 01:25:18,240 bit of a fig leaf towards the EU for our tea tip negotiations. 1362 01:25:19,980 --> 01:25:25,260 Could be, but it's not repeat not about terrorism and some 1363 01:25:25,770 --> 01:25:29,760 some bomb stuffs about terrorism. I mean, the public. 1364 01:25:30,540 --> 01:25:32,790 You know, it's just like you think they let the American 1365 01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:35,460 people in on some of this, this action? 1366 01:25:35,490 --> 01:25:38,310 Can you imagine how great we would be if people actually 1367 01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:41,790 understood this? We'd be we'd be all filled with I think Congress 1368 01:25:41,790 --> 01:25:45,270 would get something done. People be like, hell yeah, you wouldn't 1369 01:25:45,270 --> 01:25:47,730 have to spend all the time bullcrapping the public in this 1370 01:25:47,730 --> 01:25:53,520 or scaring them? Yeah. You're gonna get killed? Yeah, exactly. 1371 01:25:55,500 --> 01:25:57,780 They wouldn't make that making it worse by bringing in this 1372 01:25:57,780 --> 01:26:02,610 common core and some of these other initiatives that just are 1373 01:26:02,970 --> 01:26:05,430 obviously intended to dumb down the public. 1374 01:26:06,180 --> 01:26:10,410 It's funny, you know, for today's show, I wanted to do 1375 01:26:10,410 --> 01:26:18,120 something upbeat. I know. It kind of wrecks our model. But 1376 01:26:18,150 --> 01:26:21,360 specifically regarding regarding common core, I wanted to bring 1377 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:28,170 in a voice from the grave. Someone who I have always held 1378 01:26:28,170 --> 01:26:34,350 in high regard. And it's from an interview that from 1995, a two 1379 01:26:34,350 --> 01:26:38,910 years before he returned to Apple to make it legendary 1380 01:26:38,910 --> 01:26:45,210 again, a Steve Jobs talking about education. And I have 1381 01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,180 three quick little clips of taken on this is a pretty well 1382 01:26:48,180 --> 01:26:51,210 known interview, I think it was I'm sure you've seen this John, 1383 01:26:51,210 --> 01:26:54,600 This interview was like PC magazine or something 1995 They 1384 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,890 were trying to codify people from the beginning of Silicon 1385 01:26:58,890 --> 01:27:00,600 Valley. Do you know this interview of jobs? 1386 01:27:01,530 --> 01:27:03,450 If I hear it, I might have heard it before. 1387 01:27:04,650 --> 01:27:08,520 And as it relates to common core, it's very interesting to 1388 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,750 hear him specifically, say some things about education, and 1389 01:27:12,750 --> 01:27:17,130 really how the educators today and the Governors Association 1390 01:27:17,130 --> 01:27:20,160 and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, all these people who 1391 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,550 were all in on Common Core, and the testing and the standards 1392 01:27:23,550 --> 01:27:29,550 and turn teachers into test takers and data analyzers are 1393 01:27:30,570 --> 01:27:36,120 wrong. Here's how here's what got Steve Jobs interested in 1394 01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:39,780 what he's doing today. And through education in fourth 1395 01:27:39,780 --> 01:27:42,330 grade, I encountered one of the other saints in my life, which 1396 01:27:42,330 --> 01:27:46,350 was I, they discovered they were going to put me in the sky, Rick 1397 01:27:46,350 --> 01:27:48,300 Tarantino and have the same fourth grade class. And the 1398 01:27:48,300 --> 01:27:51,450 principal said at the last minute, no, no bad idea, 1399 01:27:51,450 --> 01:27:55,800 separate them. So this teacher, Mrs. Hill said, I'll take one of 1400 01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,380 them. And she taught the advanced fourth grade class. And 1401 01:27:58,380 --> 01:28:02,550 thank God, I was the random one that got got put in her class. 1402 01:28:03,450 --> 01:28:08,460 And she watched me for about two weeks. And she then approached 1403 01:28:08,460 --> 01:28:12,540 me, she said, Steven, I'll tell you what I am. I'll make your 1404 01:28:12,540 --> 01:28:18,180 deal. I have this math workbook. And if you take it home, and 1405 01:28:18,180 --> 01:28:21,960 finish it on your own, without any help, and you bring it back 1406 01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:27,810 to me, if you get it 80%, right, I will give you $5. And one of 1407 01:28:27,810 --> 01:28:30,540 these really big sucker, she bought it, she held it out in 1408 01:28:30,540 --> 01:28:33,090 front of me all these giant things. And I looked at her 1409 01:28:33,090 --> 01:28:36,990 like, are you crazy lady? Nobody's ever done this before. 1410 01:28:37,350 --> 01:28:41,520 And of course, I did it. And she basically bribed me back into 1411 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:47,010 learning, with with with candy and money and, and what was 1412 01:28:47,010 --> 01:28:49,620 really remarkable was that, you know, before very long, I had 1413 01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:54,060 such a respect for her that I sort of reignited my desire to 1414 01:28:54,060 --> 01:28:59,250 learn. And she was remarkable she she got me kits for making 1415 01:28:59,250 --> 01:29:02,940 cameras, you know, I ground my own lens and made a camera and 1416 01:29:02,940 --> 01:29:05,970 it was it was really quite wonderful. 1417 01:29:06,270 --> 01:29:10,020 Real education there. And, and I like it because as you know, I 1418 01:29:10,020 --> 01:29:14,820 am a big fan of bribing kids with hookers and blow it works. 1419 01:29:15,900 --> 01:29:18,720 Now that this interviewer goes into this next bit and says, you 1420 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,410 know, well, you're You're famous for putting computers in the K 1421 01:29:22,410 --> 01:29:26,040 12. Computers, of course, are going to solve education, which 1422 01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:31,590 is where we are at right now, today. Tomorrow is not 20 to 20 1423 01:29:31,590 --> 01:29:37,710 years later. And interesting. That is Bill Gates, the arch 1424 01:29:37,710 --> 01:29:42,030 nemesis of apple and of Steve Jobs to a certain extent, who is 1425 01:29:42,030 --> 01:29:46,890 now doing this, basically saying that big data and computers 1426 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:51,420 that's going to fix education, Steve Jobs, not so on board. 1427 01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:53,850 The unions are the worst thing that ever happened education. 1428 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,880 Because it's not a meritocracy. It turns into a bureaucracy 1429 01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:02,850 which Here's exactly what's happened. And teachers can't 1430 01:30:02,850 --> 01:30:06,990 teach and administrators run the place and nobody can be fired. 1431 01:30:07,020 --> 01:30:11,550 It's terrible. Well, some people say that the this new technology 1432 01:30:11,550 --> 01:30:18,810 may be a networking world, if you will, maybe a way to bypass 1433 01:30:18,870 --> 01:30:21,600 that are you opt in? I absolutely don't believe that. 1434 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,520 And as you pointed out, I've probably helped put more 1435 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,790 computers in more schools than anybody else in the world. And 1436 01:30:27,180 --> 01:30:30,990 up until this point in time, and I'm absolutely convinced that 1437 01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:35,280 that is by no means the most important thing. The most 1438 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:39,150 important thing is another person, another person that 1439 01:30:39,150 --> 01:30:42,660 incites your curiosity that guides your curiosity, that 1440 01:30:42,660 --> 01:30:46,320 feeds your curiosity. And machines cannot do that in the 1441 01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:47,430 same way people can't 1442 01:30:47,460 --> 01:30:51,120 this No wonder they hated each other. He's so on the opposite 1443 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,460 side of this. And that, by the way, if you look at all the 1444 01:30:53,460 --> 01:30:55,650 money that's going around in Common Core was enough to kill 1445 01:30:55,650 --> 01:30:59,340 them just for that attitude. And I'm thinking more and more that 1446 01:31:00,390 --> 01:31:03,210 there was no reason to help them out. Let's put it that way. 1447 01:31:03,660 --> 01:31:07,440 final bit in our happy, upbeat little Steve Jobs clip with on 1448 01:31:08,430 --> 01:31:12,300 his his ideas about how schools should be run, right now. 1449 01:31:13,470 --> 01:31:18,090 If you ask who are the customers of education, the customers of 1450 01:31:18,090 --> 01:31:21,780 education are the society at large employers that hire 1451 01:31:21,780 --> 01:31:24,990 people, right, things like that. But ultimately, I think the 1452 01:31:24,990 --> 01:31:28,050 customers are the parents, not even the students. But the 1453 01:31:28,050 --> 01:31:32,070 parents. The problem that we have in this country is that the 1454 01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:36,180 customers went away. A customer stopped paying attention to 1455 01:31:36,180 --> 01:31:39,990 their schools for the most part, and gave their kids to the Well 1456 01:31:39,990 --> 01:31:42,900 what happened was is that mothers started working, and 1457 01:31:42,900 --> 01:31:45,420 they didn't have time to spend at PTA meetings and watching 1458 01:31:45,420 --> 01:31:49,440 their kids school. Schools became much more 1459 01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:55,290 institutionalised. And parents spent less and less and less 1460 01:31:55,290 --> 01:32:00,240 time involved in their kids education. And what happens when 1461 01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:05,460 a customer goes away, and a monopoly gets control, which is 1462 01:32:05,460 --> 01:32:09,600 what's happened in our country, is that the service level almost 1463 01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,810 always goes down. I remember seeing a bumper sticker when the 1464 01:32:12,810 --> 01:32:16,380 telephone company was all 180 and T the Bell System. I 1465 01:32:16,380 --> 01:32:20,580 remember seeing a bumper sticker with the bell logo on it. And it 1466 01:32:20,580 --> 01:32:25,200 said we don't care. We don't have to know and that's what a 1467 01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:26,490 monopoly is. Yeah, 1468 01:32:27,090 --> 01:32:31,860 there you go. Yeah, I'm not buying any of it. Not buying and 1469 01:32:31,860 --> 01:32:35,280 grinding his own lenses in fourth grade or any of that crap 1470 01:32:36,450 --> 01:32:39,750 Don't be me a little romantic John, what is this 1471 01:32:39,810 --> 01:32:42,900 it customers the women started working and it's gone to hell 1472 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,940 yes, the self esteem movement some of this other stuff that 1473 01:32:47,940 --> 01:32:51,690 those same women were promoting? I think he's I think the guy is 1474 01:32:51,690 --> 01:32:55,890 an uneducated character. Who is just like gates is he's you 1475 01:32:55,890 --> 01:32:58,230 know, he's never Gates has never gone through college and doesn't 1476 01:32:58,230 --> 01:33:00,840 know what the process is or what what do you get out of it? Or 1477 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:04,020 what you don't get out of it? Or what was the bogusness is oh, I 1478 01:33:04,020 --> 01:33:07,080 can dream he has now but he's a big expert. So I feel the same 1479 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,530 way about jobs. I'm not buying any of it. It was it was a good 1480 01:33:10,530 --> 01:33:13,980 series a little quick. Currently you seem to get 1481 01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,880 high. I'm a big fan. I've always been a fan. Little comments. 1482 01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:22,290 Let's go. Just do three quick headlines on Common Core then 1483 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:23,340 then use you okay, 1484 01:33:23,340 --> 01:33:25,260 yes, finish the common core thing because I want to go to 1485 01:33:25,260 --> 01:33:27,810 France where we have no customers ourselves. 1486 01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:33,180 Hold on. Massachusetts, has voted to delay implementation of 1487 01:33:33,180 --> 01:33:38,550 Common Core. Good Anya, New York School Principals have written a 1488 01:33:38,550 --> 01:33:41,430 letter which I've put the letter in the way stop, 1489 01:33:41,490 --> 01:33:46,710 stop. Massachusetts, happens to have one of the best state run 1490 01:33:46,710 --> 01:33:51,180 educational organisations. And they know this is bullcrap. In 1491 01:33:51,180 --> 01:33:53,640 fact, if we modelled everything after what Massachusetts is 1492 01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,850 doing, we'd be much better off than doing this crazy thing that 1493 01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,580 you know, the Bill Gates Foundation has dreamed up. Well, 1494 01:33:59,610 --> 01:34:02,460 that's the heavy hitters on the board of education in 1495 01:34:02,460 --> 01:34:06,090 Massachusetts are saying this, we got to stop this or slow it 1496 01:34:06,090 --> 01:34:09,750 down or whatever, and they do not want to implement so there's 1497 01:34:09,750 --> 01:34:12,510 hope there New York School Principals have written a letter 1498 01:34:12,510 --> 01:34:16,860 of concern about Common Core testing. Not it's, I put it in 1499 01:34:16,860 --> 01:34:18,990 the shownotes you can read it yourself, but actually there 1500 01:34:19,020 --> 01:34:22,320 it's not just concerned that kind of like, Yo, dude, we gotta 1501 01:34:22,350 --> 01:34:26,760 we can't do this crap. And there was an interesting article about 1502 01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:32,160 code.org which is the educational outfit backed by 1503 01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:39,000 Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey and other douchebags apparently, 1504 01:34:40,140 --> 01:34:45,690 they when you sign up for code.org, the I think it was 1505 01:34:45,690 --> 01:34:50,040 Valleywag if I can find this here, who discovered that they 1506 01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:55,860 take all of your kids data and use it for other purposes. So 1507 01:34:55,890 --> 01:35:00,240 you know this education thing. Ever since it's been in To 1508 01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:02,430 analyse then we have a Department of Education at the 1509 01:35:02,430 --> 01:35:05,340 federal level. It's a big bonanza. It's a big big 1510 01:35:05,340 --> 01:35:08,490 moneymaker. And while you still can, the no agenda show 1511 01:35:08,490 --> 01:35:09,720 recommends you homeschool. 1512 01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:14,400 Yeah, we should try to outline most states. 1513 01:35:14,460 --> 01:35:20,100 No, of course, we can't have that. Is it John? Is it John 1514 01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:26,880 Taylor? What's his name? John Taylor. I want to say Gotti. Let 1515 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:28,770 me see if that's the guy's name of John Taylor. I think it's 1516 01:35:28,770 --> 01:35:35,850 John Taylor Gotti geo TTY Gatto, John Taylor Gatto. It's very 1517 01:35:35,850 --> 01:35:38,850 interesting guy, you can Google around and look at some videos, 1518 01:35:38,850 --> 01:35:42,420 but he's, for most of his life, he's been writing about the 1519 01:35:42,420 --> 01:35:45,720 history of how schools came to be and if you follow his logic, 1520 01:35:46,260 --> 01:35:52,290 they've truly are designed to be slave training institutions. If 1521 01:35:52,290 --> 01:35:57,180 you look at where the his history of, of where shul, and 1522 01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:01,080 that of course it comes from Germanic Schuler, where that 1523 01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:05,730 comes from, and, um, that kind of like a lot of his theories, I 1524 01:36:05,730 --> 01:36:10,170 think it has been set up that way, you yourself know that. The 1525 01:36:10,170 --> 01:36:15,420 education system is set up to create dumb slaves. You have 1526 01:36:15,450 --> 01:36:16,170 firsthand Yeah, 1527 01:36:16,170 --> 01:36:19,680 in fact, I've always said that the worst writers, if they tried 1528 01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,380 to get away from the newspaper business, which is dead by the 1529 01:36:22,380 --> 01:36:27,510 way, journalism school is designed to create a essentially 1530 01:36:27,510 --> 01:36:33,270 drones Xerox machines that could go in and follow a certain style 1531 01:36:33,270 --> 01:36:37,290 of writing, which was voiceless, neutral. And they could work at 1532 01:36:37,290 --> 01:36:39,810 any newspaper, because they were all the same type of person. 1533 01:36:39,810 --> 01:36:42,840 They were cogs in the wheel. And if many of them they always 1534 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,300 think that Well, I can go off and do it. I'll do some on my 1535 01:36:45,300 --> 01:36:48,000 own. They never can because it's been drummed out, their ability 1536 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:53,520 to do distinctive singular Works has been drummed out of almost 1537 01:36:53,610 --> 01:36:55,650 all of them. There's a few that thing manage. 1538 01:36:56,070 --> 01:36:59,550 And if you look at the common core stuff, it seems like your 1539 01:36:59,670 --> 01:37:03,720 people are being kids are being set up to become when when 1540 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:07,830 someone sent in an interesting note, under the slave training. 1541 01:37:09,210 --> 01:37:13,050 Kids are being trained to hear antelope Central High School 1542 01:37:13,050 --> 01:37:16,770 train students to handle a call calls emergency calls, like 1543 01:37:16,770 --> 01:37:19,890 they're at a call centre. Like their nine. Yeah. Now this is 1544 01:37:19,890 --> 01:37:23,130 the training. This is the training kids are getting. And 1545 01:37:23,130 --> 01:37:25,620 they actually do it in the classroom. Raymarine 911. What's 1546 01:37:25,620 --> 01:37:26,340 your emergency? 1547 01:37:26,370 --> 01:37:29,040 Emergency? Yeah, we're training our kids. 1548 01:37:29,070 --> 01:37:31,830 Okay, try to show Hey, Billy, let's try this other script. 1549 01:37:31,830 --> 01:37:37,620 Okay. You want fries with that? You want anything to drink? 1550 01:37:38,790 --> 01:37:41,700 We we have a special on chicken chicken wings. 1551 01:37:41,730 --> 01:37:45,690 We have a special on that small pie. And meanwhile, didn't 1552 01:37:45,690 --> 01:37:46,230 President 1553 01:37:46,230 --> 01:37:51,570 Barack Obama promised a whole bunch of like, educational 1554 01:37:51,570 --> 01:37:55,110 stuff? Did that not happen is or is this common core? Is that 1555 01:37:55,110 --> 01:37:56,490 what it is? No, no 1556 01:37:56,490 --> 01:37:57,750 common core is what it is. 1557 01:37:58,230 --> 01:38:01,980 producer Andy sent me a clip from C span which was funny in 1558 01:38:01,980 --> 01:38:04,950 two regards. What are the Obama administration's second term 1559 01:38:04,950 --> 01:38:07,380 priority is going to look like and education policy? Are they 1560 01:38:07,380 --> 01:38:10,950 going to continue to push in the direction they pushed early on 1561 01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:17,250 with Race to the Top? Or, or are we going to see more of of what 1562 01:38:17,610 --> 01:38:20,130 seemed to take hold during the campaign, which was promised 1563 01:38:20,190 --> 01:38:24,270 100,000 more teachers and smaller class sizes? I'd like to 1564 01:38:24,270 --> 01:38:27,510 get the panellists starting with Rick maybe to lay out on which 1565 01:38:27,540 --> 01:38:31,980 which Barack Obama will we see the second term on Asia. They 1566 01:38:31,980 --> 01:38:37,500 know it. They know there's more than one. Which Barack Obama I 1567 01:38:37,500 --> 01:38:38,250 don't know the 1568 01:38:38,250 --> 01:38:40,740 one who got together it's in the closet. The guy 1569 01:38:41,730 --> 01:38:50,340 the guy got inaugurated in the gay one Oh, nice. I think by the 1570 01:38:50,340 --> 01:38:55,170 way that Hollywood did something wrong or they haven't been on 1571 01:38:55,170 --> 01:38:58,800 their game that like a whole bunch of messages went out to 1572 01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:03,720 Hollywood. Just this past week. Let's see we had did like this 1573 01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:07,080 whole story about animals that were hurt and killed the making 1574 01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:10,260 of movies. And you see these stories? No, I 1575 01:39:10,260 --> 01:39:12,030 didn't I missed this. Yeah, 1576 01:39:12,030 --> 01:39:14,910 let me see. I have a couple of them. What do you have a Life of 1577 01:39:14,910 --> 01:39:20,610 Pi Tiger damn near drowned. Dog punched repeatedly in popular 1578 01:39:20,610 --> 01:39:25,140 Disney movie. Spielberg protected by cover up of the War 1579 01:39:25,140 --> 01:39:29,820 Horse death. Like all this all this like Hollywood, you suck. 1580 01:39:30,150 --> 01:39:33,600 You're horrible. You did. Of course the President was out 1581 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:38,370 going out to Hollywood. I have a feeling and there was a message. 1582 01:39:38,970 --> 01:39:42,810 And it's like, hey, you know you really you guys really got to 1583 01:39:42,810 --> 01:39:46,260 get on the stick here. And then of course we had this story. 1584 01:39:46,260 --> 01:39:49,650 Elkin indicated other big Hollywood players were also 1585 01:39:49,650 --> 01:39:53,820 involved, saying quote, when I came to Hollywood, I detach 1586 01:39:53,820 --> 01:39:57,000 myself completely from my physical activities to dedicate 1587 01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:01,650 myself to what I really wanted filmmaking. This is about Aaron 1588 01:40:01,860 --> 01:40:09,000 mill sham the Hollywood producer who all of a sudden in a in an 1589 01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:14,550 Israeli television interview, comes out and says I was a spy. 1590 01:40:14,820 --> 01:40:20,520 I was a spy I was a Mossad spy. And and I'm thinking he did this 1591 01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:25,590 to preempt whatever was coming. That would be a good idea. And, 1592 01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,280 and this is not news, by the way. And every everybody is 1593 01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,700 known this guy was an arms dealer, you know, since 2000. 1594 01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:35,070 There were are fun articles about this is nothing new 1595 01:40:35,070 --> 01:40:37,980 whatsoever. But all of a sudden, I guess he didn't want to be 1596 01:40:37,980 --> 01:40:41,820 shamed, or I think something was going on, but sometimes it gets 1597 01:40:41,820 --> 01:40:46,230 mixed up. The 68 Year Old Milton owns new Regency films and has 1598 01:40:46,230 --> 01:40:50,340 produced more than 120 movies working closely with directors 1599 01:40:50,340 --> 01:40:53,910 such as Martin Scorsese and Oliver Stone. He forged an 1600 01:40:53,910 --> 01:40:57,390 especially close relationship with actor Robert De Niro, who 1601 01:40:57,390 --> 01:41:00,510 was also featured in the Israeli television programme. 1602 01:41:00,750 --> 01:41:03,990 I did ask him once we spoke about something and he told me 1603 01:41:06,030 --> 01:41:09,750 that he was in his rally and that he's and that he of course 1604 01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:12,360 would do these things for his country. Or you want to come to 1605 01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:14,850 Hollywood act like a big shot without actually doing anything. 1606 01:41:16,350 --> 01:41:19,410 In a story that seems reminiscent to last year's Oscar 1607 01:41:19,410 --> 01:41:23,430 winning true to life film Argo that depicted the CIA Hollywood 1608 01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:27,450 collaboration to rescue us diplomat stuck in Iran. It's a 1609 01:41:27,450 --> 01:41:31,560 safe bet Hollywood execs will be fighting to bring this story to 1610 01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:34,980 the big screen to Yeah, Mo Of course there's always that angle 1611 01:41:34,980 --> 01:41:40,500 and let's chuckle about this you moronic news models. Now we 1612 01:41:40,500 --> 01:41:43,620 reached out to Milton today for comment, Jim but we were told he 1613 01:41:43,620 --> 01:41:46,800 is travelling in Europe and unavailable you you know I have 1614 01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:49,260 been covering all things Hollywood for a while Jim and 1615 01:41:49,260 --> 01:41:52,620 not much surprises me that goes on there these days. But this 1616 01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,560 this is a web store. He says it's too bad. He's 1617 01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:59,100 unavailable when he is available on the situation room and tell 1618 01:41:59,100 --> 01:42:00,360 his story to Wolf Blitzer. 1619 01:42:04,980 --> 01:42:08,700 He's unavailable it's too bad. He's unavailable. What do you 1620 01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:11,160 have to lick his ass because you'd like the king of 1621 01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:18,600 Hollywood? George Jones is a spy. That's right. They're all 1622 01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,430 spies and in service, 1623 01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:25,680 which brings me to Chuck Barris who How nice. Chuck Barris of 1624 01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:29,160 course who did the gong show. There was a movie about him and 1625 01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:33,750 I think Looney was in it. And but it was produced by a pretty 1626 01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:37,650 show is produced by Clooney, or is directed Confessions of a 1627 01:42:37,650 --> 01:42:41,790 Dangerous Mind. We're bearish comes out and says he was an 1628 01:42:41,790 --> 01:42:44,580 assassin for the CIA for all the years that he was doing that 1629 01:42:44,580 --> 01:42:47,880 show. Oh, never seen this movie. No, this sounds Oh, you're 1630 01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,130 missing one of the most entertaining films you will ever 1631 01:42:50,130 --> 01:42:50,550 see. 1632 01:42:50,580 --> 01:42:51,450 Oh my goodness. 1633 01:42:51,660 --> 01:42:55,560 You wrote a book about this. That he was a hitman. And then 1634 01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:57,840 he went on and this guy was you know, everyone who knew him from 1635 01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:01,140 his show days. And then the movie was done again. And 1636 01:43:01,140 --> 01:43:04,410 Clooney does all these movies that are either, you know their 1637 01:43:04,410 --> 01:43:07,020 message movies, as far as I can tell, he does all of the 1638 01:43:07,020 --> 01:43:11,310 American where he plays an assassin, Syriana, where he's 1639 01:43:11,310 --> 01:43:14,340 talking about the drones killing princes all the rest of the sea 1640 01:43:14,370 --> 01:43:18,810 the cast of this movie Confessions of a see Dick Clark 1641 01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:22,140 played himself. Sam Rockwell played Chuck Barris Michelle 1642 01:43:22,140 --> 01:43:27,390 Sweeney Drew Barrymore, I do not see Clooney on this one. He 1643 01:43:27,390 --> 01:43:32,010 directed it. Oh, really? Yes. No, it says stars George George 1644 01:43:32,010 --> 01:43:34,380 Clooney. Okay, all right. 1645 01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:38,880 Cool. He's in on this. So, okay, so you have to watch this movie 1646 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,040 and I recommend it to everybody because it's extremely 1647 01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:45,990 entertaining. And it's like it's either the just a guy who's 1648 01:43:45,990 --> 01:43:51,270 deluded or a guy who actually was a hitman and I don't know 1649 01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:54,750 why what why even confessed any of this but you know it's like 1650 01:43:54,750 --> 01:43:57,810 the Confessions of an economic hitman as it were, right another 1651 01:43:58,110 --> 01:44:02,190 situation where a guy had to tell all who backed off on all 1652 01:44:02,190 --> 01:44:05,040 that, by the way you would do if you had a gun pointed to your 1653 01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:05,430 head? 1654 01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:10,500 No, no, I'd be like, shoot me dammit. I have principles. 1655 01:44:10,620 --> 01:44:15,330 He backed off big time. Oh, yeah, he I think it wasn't that 1656 01:44:15,330 --> 01:44:18,330 I think they let the book slide. That'd be conventionally the you 1657 01:44:18,330 --> 01:44:20,910 know the book came out and that was fine. But then he started to 1658 01:44:20,910 --> 01:44:25,530 do volume too right and then he was on the road doing speeches 1659 01:44:25,650 --> 01:44:27,900 well then then all of a sudden he stopped everything that's 1660 01:44:27,900 --> 01:44:29,610 because he was getting carried away 1661 01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:35,340 it's the same with the with the Tim wiener who wrote the legacy 1662 01:44:35,340 --> 01:44:38,580 of ashes CIA book which was you know, is almost almost like a 1663 01:44:38,580 --> 01:44:42,480 Bible. It got me started in, in media assassination and 1664 01:44:42,480 --> 01:44:45,630 understanding you know, what, what the CIA really is about? 1665 01:44:45,780 --> 01:44:49,590 And then as FBI book came out, it was like all in it's like no, 1666 01:44:49,620 --> 01:44:54,030 like it was sleeping with the with the dead body of Hoover. It 1667 01:44:54,030 --> 01:44:58,110 was it's disgusting. It's just lane. totally lame. And I think 1668 01:44:58,110 --> 01:45:01,860 he got called to like I'm not going to do one of those books 1669 01:45:01,860 --> 01:45:03,930 about the bureau. 1670 01:45:05,009 --> 01:45:06,899 Yeah, we saw the other book. We didn't like it. 1671 01:45:07,469 --> 01:45:10,649 No, I read it and was horrible. Really? 1672 01:45:11,129 --> 01:45:13,829 No, I'm talking to that would be this. The FBI guys calling them 1673 01:45:13,829 --> 01:45:17,939 up? Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah, me parking tickets. Do you want a 1674 01:45:17,939 --> 01:45:20,789 month? You like, do you like the IRA? It looks like you're 1675 01:45:20,789 --> 01:45:23,249 speeding again, according to the satellite that we have looking 1676 01:45:23,249 --> 01:45:24,059 at you now. 1677 01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,480 The IRS, it'd be very nice. Yeah. 1678 01:45:27,990 --> 01:45:30,690 There's a lot of ways you can stop. They let them do one 1679 01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:34,470 product. And then that's it. I think you can control it. At 1680 01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:37,410 that point. You know, the only guy that I think is slightly 1681 01:45:38,910 --> 01:45:42,150 still, I think got more to tell us as the guy who did the bush 1682 01:45:42,150 --> 01:45:44,550 book, which is another book everyone out there. 1683 01:45:44,820 --> 01:45:48,060 Secret while he has a website. 1684 01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:49,950 He's got a great website. Yeah, he's 1685 01:45:49,950 --> 01:45:52,110 got some good stuff on there. I like what he's doing. What's the 1686 01:45:52,110 --> 01:45:56,670 name of the website again? What was his name? 1687 01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:58,980 Oh, you can get it by typing in family 1688 01:45:59,460 --> 01:46:07,650 secrets and may even point right to that website. Was he again? 1689 01:46:07,980 --> 01:46:12,330 Family of secrets.com? Russ Baker? Yeah. Yeah. Who is it 1690 01:46:12,330 --> 01:46:16,740 legitimate? High quality high end journalist. He's not like a 1691 01:46:16,740 --> 01:46:17,970 slouch. Who what? 1692 01:46:17,970 --> 01:46:22,320 why.com that's the that's his website. Who what? why.com 1693 01:46:22,470 --> 01:46:24,450 Yeah. Family of secrets.com 1694 01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:28,320 this is the guy you know, follow this guy. Not Glenn Greenwald. 1695 01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,440 This is the guy who's who's really doing some good stuff, of 1696 01:46:31,440 --> 01:46:34,410 course, doesn't have the documents that were stolen from 1697 01:46:34,410 --> 01:46:41,730 Snowden. But you know, Uncle Don has written a book called I 1698 01:46:41,730 --> 01:46:45,180 think it's called shards or something. Shards shards of my 1699 01:46:45,180 --> 01:46:48,360 mind or Yeah, like, like fragments, shards not shard? 1700 01:46:48,810 --> 01:46:52,440 Like, although that will probably get published quicker. 1701 01:46:53,490 --> 01:46:56,160 If I sharted in the CIA, 1702 01:46:57,570 --> 01:47:02,370 he can't get it published. And I have I have not been allowed to 1703 01:47:02,370 --> 01:47:02,910 read it. 1704 01:47:03,390 --> 01:47:05,760 Why? That's probably why I can't get it published. Nobody is 1705 01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:07,140 allowed to read it. Ya 1706 01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:12,150 know, the thing is, the agency these taking exception, I think, 1707 01:47:12,330 --> 01:47:13,950 or they're blocking it or whatever. 1708 01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:16,950 Well, obviously, that's what's going on. Because anyone would 1709 01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:19,020 love to publish a book like that from 1710 01:47:19,020 --> 01:47:20,850 him. I mean, he's, he's famous. 1711 01:47:21,630 --> 01:47:25,380 Well, he could just, you know, do a giblet wow, 1712 01:47:25,410 --> 01:47:28,200 I got to go to New York. I gotta go talk to go 1713 01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:31,680 there. Say hey, we can do a giblet for you know, agenda 1714 01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:32,250 press. He'll 1715 01:47:32,250 --> 01:47:36,570 probably be like, Adam, this is like for my kids retirement. I'm 1716 01:47:36,570 --> 01:47:39,450 not gonna do like no agenda. giblet press with frickin 1717 01:47:39,450 --> 01:47:41,070 bitcoins Get out of my way. 1718 01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:46,320 Right now they're gonna get nothing. Yeah, that's true. 1719 01:47:47,430 --> 01:47:51,960 I need to visit him. And regardless, we gotta go. We have 1720 01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,630 to go. He's 84. Now it's getting up there. Gotta go. 1721 01:47:54,990 --> 01:47:58,350 Yeah, he's getting there. That books, somebody should at least 1722 01:47:58,350 --> 01:48:02,190 have a copy of it somewhere buried. Yeah. Well, you know, I 1723 01:48:02,220 --> 01:48:04,680 wonder what's in there that the agencies worked about. 1724 01:48:06,210 --> 01:48:10,170 He told me some stuff, which I can't repeat. Because, you know, 1725 01:48:10,170 --> 01:48:12,600 that would kind of circumvent the whole idea of the trust 1726 01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:19,710 relationship. But I don't know. I mean, I agree. I would like to 1727 01:48:19,710 --> 01:48:22,500 have at least a copy of it. So I could, you know, and that's all 1728 01:48:22,500 --> 01:48:27,480 I want. Like, do just give me a copy for safekeeping. And give 1729 01:48:27,480 --> 01:48:29,640 me the raw, unedited, whatever. 1730 01:48:32,490 --> 01:48:38,460 It's not a bad idea. You should do that. I'm going to I have got 1731 01:48:38,460 --> 01:48:41,730 go giant report that Adam Curry's house was detonated by a 1732 01:48:41,730 --> 01:48:45,270 bomb. Apparently racist. Oh, 1733 01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:48,360 no, no, no, no, no. Unfortunate gas leak, 1734 01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:51,630 or gas leak. Boom, 1735 01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:55,140 boom, levelled the whole neighbourhood. The MythBusters 1736 01:48:55,140 --> 01:48:57,360 couldn't do it. But for some reason that happens with 1737 01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:58,710 increasing regularity. 1738 01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:02,550 Before we get to the money, part of the show, let's talk about 1739 01:49:02,550 --> 01:49:06,210 France. Now France has got a big deal going on here as you can 1740 01:49:06,210 --> 01:49:09,630 tell by my clips, and but do introduce it to people because 1741 01:49:09,630 --> 01:49:12,840 it hasn't been played up at all here in the United States. Look, 1742 01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:16,890 go to the hookers overview part one so we'll see what's going on 1743 01:49:16,890 --> 01:49:17,550 in France. 1744 01:49:17,730 --> 01:49:20,910 French daily VPLS. You'll slapped it on its front page 1745 01:49:20,910 --> 01:49:27,300 this Wednesday. Prostitution, the world's oldest debate. The 1746 01:49:27,330 --> 01:49:29,610 French Parliament this week discussing a bill that would 1747 01:49:29,610 --> 01:49:34,230 shift the burden from the sex worker to the clients are 1500 1748 01:49:34,230 --> 01:49:39,210 Euro fines for soliciting the services of the same bill would 1749 01:49:39,210 --> 01:49:43,140 overturn legislation passed in 2003 that punished prostitutes 1750 01:49:43,140 --> 01:49:46,710 for curb calling. That's because of European guidelines. They 1751 01:49:46,710 --> 01:49:49,200 consider prostitutes to be the victims. 1752 01:49:50,580 --> 01:49:55,230 Before you do anything, I'm a little upset you didn't prepare 1753 01:49:55,230 --> 01:50:00,120 me for this because you know we have a jingle for this Oh 1754 01:50:10,620 --> 01:50:15,570 I forgot about Okay. So here's what the EU thinks this is the 1755 01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:20,130 why the EU now this is a woman who kind of represents the EU, I 1756 01:50:20,130 --> 01:50:23,070 think she's French. And they're talking about what the way they 1757 01:50:23,070 --> 01:50:25,350 see things. And by the way, this is implemented by the 1758 01:50:25,350 --> 01:50:30,030 socialists, who used to be always considered pro hooker as 1759 01:50:30,030 --> 01:50:32,520 opposed to the right wing, which is always considered to be oh, 1760 01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:34,530 you know, we just as it's a sin. 1761 01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:38,280 Now, why is this bill being brought before the French 1762 01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:41,760 Parliament at this particular time, one of the co sponsors, 1763 01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:46,680 socialist Katelyn Patel explains. To me that 1764 01:50:46,980 --> 01:50:48,390 prostitution, prostitution 1765 01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:52,110 in France has changed enormously. immeasurably. Most 1766 01:50:52,110 --> 01:50:54,990 people working as prostitutes have been trafficked here by 1767 01:50:54,990 --> 01:50:59,190 mafia organisations in its modern slavery of people who 1768 01:50:59,190 --> 01:51:02,640 come from Africa, Eastern Europe and China. So people who come 1769 01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:06,420 here to try to live to survive, you can reasonably say that 1770 01:51:06,420 --> 01:51:09,480 prostitutes should not be seen as criminals, but as victims, 1771 01:51:09,810 --> 01:51:13,020 and that the client is the one buying sex is the one fueling 1772 01:51:13,020 --> 01:51:15,210 prostitution. All right, I 1773 01:51:15,210 --> 01:51:17,190 got to stop right here. I got to take some exception of what's 1774 01:51:17,190 --> 01:51:20,880 going on here. This is this, by the way, is not just happening 1775 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,400 in France, this conversation has been started up in the 1776 01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:27,840 Netherlands as well. Now the Netherlands, anyone who is the 1777 01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:33,330 40 or over, will will know that if you say Amsterdam or Holland, 1778 01:51:33,660 --> 01:51:40,110 people go weed and hookers. And the Netherlands was proud, 1779 01:51:40,440 --> 01:51:44,760 proud, I tell you of its extremely liberal stance on 1780 01:51:44,970 --> 01:51:51,930 recreational drugs, specifically in the smoking of a plant and of 1781 01:51:51,930 --> 01:51:56,880 their prostitution sector, which was out in the open and not 1782 01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:03,030 behind closed doors. In fact, in windows were the prostitutes 1783 01:52:03,060 --> 01:52:08,460 that pay taxes where they have have free yet mandatory health 1784 01:52:08,550 --> 01:52:12,750 care and checkups. And this was always seen as a great 1785 01:52:12,750 --> 01:52:17,730 liberation or a proof of how liberal and open minded and by 1786 01:52:17,730 --> 01:52:22,950 the way, not just female hookers is all kinds of hookers. And now 1787 01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:31,830 I'm just not buying the the statement that all hookers are 1788 01:52:32,340 --> 01:52:37,110 traffic sex slaves, I just don't buy it. I know lots of 1789 01:52:37,110 --> 01:52:42,240 prostitutes, who like what they're doing temporarily. And 1790 01:52:42,270 --> 01:52:45,330 just as it's anyone's choice to have a baby or not to do 1791 01:52:45,330 --> 01:52:48,360 whatever you want you this is your choice, too. I know it's 1792 01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,960 not popular, because it's always Oh trafficking, sex slavery. I 1793 01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:57,360 know. I'm not so convinced that this is taking place everywhere 1794 01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:58,230 in the EU. 1795 01:52:58,830 --> 01:53:03,480 Well on van cat they had a debate with a feminist they had 1796 01:53:03,480 --> 01:53:06,540 a guy who wrote some manifesto saying that this is bull crap. 1797 01:53:06,540 --> 01:53:09,810 They had a woman who was represented hookers on the horn 1798 01:53:09,810 --> 01:53:12,900 in London. Unfortunately, her sound was crappy. Then they had 1799 01:53:12,900 --> 01:53:17,640 a professor who I have a clip of who from Sweden because Sweden 1800 01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,850 apparently is is made it illegal. And they made a big 1801 01:53:20,850 --> 01:53:24,510 fuss about it and they showed a map. And what's interesting is 1802 01:53:24,510 --> 01:53:28,320 that there's just distinct separation. Sweden, Norway, 1803 01:53:28,350 --> 01:53:31,890 prostitution is really bad Great Britain, it's on the map. Bad 1804 01:53:31,890 --> 01:53:35,370 bad. And then France is trying to do this and then Iceland but 1805 01:53:35,370 --> 01:53:38,760 on the other hand, there's Germany. And then you end up 1806 01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:42,210 with the listen to these numbers on this clip hookers on welfare. 1807 01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:49,260 Okay, there are those countries like Germany, where since 2002. 1808 01:53:50,550 --> 01:53:58,680 Forbidden and punished. And we can also call up a graph of 1809 01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:03,090 countries there you see, Sweden, Norway, the Scandinavian 1810 01:54:03,090 --> 01:54:06,900 countries, Iceland has also come through with it with a similar 1811 01:54:06,900 --> 01:54:11,730 bill. And then there are those countries like Germany, where 1812 01:54:11,730 --> 01:54:17,400 since 2002, the sex trade has been completely liberalised now, 1813 01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:21,960 that in Germany particular has been sparking a backlash. It was 1814 01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:24,510 reportedly even included in coalition talks that have been 1815 01:54:24,510 --> 01:54:30,120 going on between the Sedu and the SDP, The Economist newspaper 1816 01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:34,080 called The in a recent article, a giant Teutonic brothel, 1817 01:54:34,530 --> 01:54:38,460 writing that the best guess is that Germany has about 400,000 1818 01:54:38,460 --> 01:54:42,720 prostitutes, catering to 1 million men a day mocking the 1819 01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:47,280 spirit of the law. Exactly 44 of them, including four men have 1820 01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,800 registered for welfare benefits. 1821 01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:52,740 So it's a great thriving sector. 1822 01:54:53,249 --> 01:54:56,339 In France, where they're complaining about it is 20,000 1823 01:54:56,339 --> 01:54:59,369 was the estimate 20 to 40,000 prostitutes in the country, 1824 01:54:59,639 --> 01:55:04,469 Germany He's got 400,000 with a million customers a day. There's 1825 01:55:04,469 --> 01:55:06,989 got to be like a lot of income flying around here for these 1826 01:55:07,019 --> 01:55:07,439 women, 1827 01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:09,960 but they don't it's not just women. Let's just say it's not 1828 01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:12,900 just women. There's 20% Men male prostitutes, too. 1829 01:55:12,930 --> 01:55:16,500 Yeah 20% They estimate at least these guys, the guy that one guy 1830 01:55:16,500 --> 01:55:18,330 was saying, Well, you know, most of these these figures and 1831 01:55:18,330 --> 01:55:20,340 numbers are bogus and studies have never really been done 1832 01:55:20,340 --> 01:55:23,010 right. They're always done by some pressure group that wants 1833 01:55:23,010 --> 01:55:26,100 something. But here's another little interesting one that just 1834 01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:30,690 really got my attention. Play this Booker's huge Bravo being 1835 01:55:30,690 --> 01:55:34,290 built. Really did some work 1836 01:55:34,290 --> 01:55:37,350 here, just over the border in the French region of law in the 1837 01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:42,900 local press has honed in on plans for a 6000 metre square 1838 01:55:42,900 --> 01:55:45,900 metre, five storey brothel called Paradise Island and 1839 01:55:45,900 --> 01:55:51,600 sample can the locals also say liberalisation, despite the fact 1840 01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:55,200 that there's been all these measures taken to bring it above 1841 01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:58,620 board and to have it sanction has drawn more prostitutes to 1842 01:55:58,620 --> 01:56:00,000 the streets? tab 1843 01:56:00,900 --> 01:56:05,940 five, the five story brothel coming please, that's got to be 1844 01:56:05,940 --> 01:56:06,360 something that 1845 01:56:07,020 --> 01:56:11,580 my friend has been there. My friend, my British gangster 1846 01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:16,890 friend, and he says it's outrageous. He said, it's like, 1847 01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:21,450 it's like a mega club. You've got food, you know, as you got 1848 01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:25,590 just, you know, like nightclub. It's an amazing place, he says. 1849 01:56:26,700 --> 01:56:29,220 And he says, it's really affordable. 1850 01:56:30,660 --> 01:56:33,630 Ya know, the prices they gave the women in Germany, 1851 01:56:33,630 --> 01:56:37,680 supposedly, it's just yeah, it's a lot less than it is in Las 1852 01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:41,040 Vegas, I'd say. So let's play one more clip. This is the 1853 01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:43,890 hookers in New Zealand, which is this is the woman from England 1854 01:56:43,890 --> 01:56:46,890 who came on and said, you know that these people are full of 1855 01:56:46,890 --> 01:56:49,680 crap. And these girls do what they want to do. You know, they 1856 01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:52,140 have in some instances, they have really no other choice but 1857 01:56:52,140 --> 01:56:54,990 to do this, because they sit because the one feminist as 1858 01:56:54,990 --> 01:56:58,710 well. They're only doing it for the money. And then the guy 1859 01:56:58,710 --> 01:57:02,310 comes on says, I think most people except Bill Gates, do 1860 01:57:02,310 --> 01:57:05,490 everything for the money. And what's your point been mentioned 1861 01:57:05,490 --> 01:57:07,770 tonight is what they've done in New Zealand where they 1862 01:57:07,770 --> 01:57:12,660 decriminalised prostitution 10 years ago. And first of all, and 1863 01:57:12,660 --> 01:57:16,170 then importantly, it has made it safer for women to work because 1864 01:57:16,170 --> 01:57:19,440 women, if women are attacked, they can come forward to the to 1865 01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:22,740 the authorities and report without any fear of arrest, 1866 01:57:22,860 --> 01:57:26,040 whether women are in Germany, if people decided to stay on the 1867 01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:30,750 stream doors, we think that governments really should look 1868 01:57:30,780 --> 01:57:34,920 at what's happened in New Zealand, where it has shown that 1869 01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:38,250 it has made it safer, and safety has to be the priority. 1870 01:57:40,140 --> 01:57:42,540 So anyway, so this is reasonable voices, and I'm not going to 1871 01:57:42,540 --> 01:57:45,150 play all these clips, but I do want to, I definitely have to 1872 01:57:45,150 --> 01:57:46,440 play the Swedish professor. 1873 01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:49,740 Yeah, before we get I just want to say that. I think this is the 1874 01:57:49,740 --> 01:57:53,160 media always likes this story, which is why it gets played out 1875 01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:58,920 so big, because they're prostitutes, but they don't get 1876 01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:03,540 to have sex. They get the people who are doing television news 1877 01:58:03,570 --> 01:58:05,970 are more abuse than any prostitutes. I know. 1878 01:58:06,209 --> 01:58:12,389 I would like to add to this discussion here. The first Mr. 1879 01:58:12,959 --> 01:58:16,889 Mihail day he said that prostitution is just like any 1880 01:58:16,889 --> 01:58:21,059 other job for people have their free. If you compare 1881 01:58:21,059 --> 01:58:26,279 prostitution to say working at a fast food restaurant, people 1882 01:58:26,279 --> 01:58:29,519 working at fast food restaurants pay don't have post traumatic 1883 01:58:29,519 --> 01:58:33,629 stress disorder or other mental disorders that are just as high 1884 01:58:33,629 --> 01:58:37,949 as a treatment seeking combat veterans are victims of state 1885 01:58:37,949 --> 01:58:42,269 torture. That's the level of abuse that women in prostitution 1886 01:58:42,269 --> 01:58:45,809 face worldwide. There are numerous studies showing that 1887 01:58:46,439 --> 01:58:49,859 whether they are prostituted indoors, in strip clubs, even in 1888 01:58:49,859 --> 01:58:55,049 pornography on the streets, that the majority has suffered from 1889 01:58:55,109 --> 01:59:00,509 mental disorders and a number of physical violence, exercise by 1890 01:59:00,509 --> 01:59:03,569 clients. None of these conditions occurring other 1891 01:59:03,899 --> 01:59:09,659 regular low, low wage jobs really, really. 1892 01:59:10,470 --> 01:59:14,070 So this guy claims at all according to the Swedes and this 1893 01:59:14,070 --> 01:59:17,970 they've been pushing this they've all the hookers have 1894 01:59:18,030 --> 01:59:21,780 post traumatic stress disorder. They're they're the same. They 1895 01:59:21,780 --> 01:59:26,400 have the same mental foundations as a torture victim. And all the 1896 01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,740 rest of it, which it Yeah, sure, I'm sure you could find some 1897 01:59:28,740 --> 01:59:30,960 that are that fall into this category. But it doesn't sound 1898 01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:33,570 that way in New Zealand, where you can actually go to the 1899 01:59:33,570 --> 01:59:36,720 police and get some some some somebody to get arrested if 1900 01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,450 something weird happens. Well, I think that this was a very 1901 01:59:39,450 --> 01:59:42,780 interesting kind of debate that I thought was if I just kind of 1902 01:59:42,900 --> 01:59:43,110 if I 1903 01:59:43,110 --> 01:59:47,520 look at the countries that now we've we've covered Scandinavia, 1904 01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:55,380 the Netherlands, France, all countries with huge Muslim 1905 01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:56,970 immigrant populations. i 1906 01:59:56,970 --> 02:00:01,140 Oh, that's very good catch because that's my I thoughts to 1907 02:00:01,380 --> 02:00:06,480 this is looks to me to assuage the Muslims or to keep the 1908 02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:10,470 Muslims from because they are traitors than white slavery to 1909 02:00:10,470 --> 02:00:14,160 keep them from doing their business I don't know what it is 1910 02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:16,740 but it there was no coincidence they said Iceland 1911 02:00:16,770 --> 02:00:21,780 pretty general statement there John Rawls six trade slave slave 1912 02:00:21,780 --> 02:00:22,260 traders 1913 02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:25,830 damn damn yeah that is a generalisation then it only 1914 02:00:25,830 --> 02:00:32,820 applies to a very small group of Muslims but they do have a even 1915 02:00:32,850 --> 02:00:36,720 I think as a whole I think the Muslims would like to do a 1916 02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:40,380 foundational changes in the moral code of some of these 1917 02:00:40,380 --> 02:00:42,840 countries so well that's we know that I think that's a 1918 02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:46,050 generalisation that holds up for the majority of Muslims yes 1919 02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:51,870 that's just like their diversity Yeah, I will also give it to the 1920 02:00:51,870 --> 02:00:53,220 to Muslims who listened to the show 1921 02:00:53,220 --> 02:00:56,190 except now we got a lot of Muslims listen to the show. It's 1922 02:00:56,190 --> 02:01:00,090 September 27 2000. They're boarding in enough that's the 1923 02:01:00,090 --> 02:01:02,730 Reykjavik City Council approved a building permit for the 1924 02:01:02,730 --> 02:01:06,720 construction of the first mosque in Iceland starting there too. 1925 02:01:06,810 --> 02:01:11,400 So that's you know that that coincides nicely we know that 1926 02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:16,080 Sweden has huge huge months Muslim angry Muslim population 1927 02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:21,150 France so you know this is not these things cannot be 1928 02:01:21,150 --> 02:01:25,020 overlooked these things are not just coincidences, but the Great 1929 02:01:25,020 --> 02:01:27,210 Britain and Great Britain totally they 1930 02:01:27,210 --> 02:01:30,480 have a great brands on their map their map showed Sweden which is 1931 02:01:30,750 --> 02:01:35,550 largely Muslim in the south of Norway which I don't know what 1932 02:01:35,550 --> 02:01:39,030 the connection is there because we don't have a lot of somebody 1933 02:01:39,030 --> 02:01:41,640 in Norway to listen to the show to tell us tell us yeah someone 1934 02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:46,380 in the Netherlands was not on this map with it with the 1935 02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:47,010 highlight 1936 02:01:47,070 --> 02:01:49,980 Yeah, but I when I was there, I saw a couple of stories I kind 1937 02:01:49,980 --> 02:01:53,820 of ignored it a little bit but now it Phil fits in so 1938 02:01:53,820 --> 02:01:57,210 regardless of what is going on all of these stories all these 1939 02:01:57,210 --> 02:02:00,180 countries all individually are all part oh 1940 02:02:11,100 --> 02:02:14,400 I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda Imagine 1941 02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:17,100 all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun 1942 02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:28,440 All right, we got to start off with a James Allen Law de Burgh 1943 02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:31,950 and Reisch dot Norway who should add tell us what's going on in 1944 02:02:31,950 --> 02:02:35,070 Norway regarding this There you go to his 40th birthday. We got 1945 02:02:35,070 --> 02:02:40,110 him on the list. He's got a 111 11 and make it rain. 3333 1946 02:02:40,140 --> 02:02:45,150 Give me the knighthood and he likes the EU wants in in the 1947 02:02:45,150 --> 02:02:46,770 morning with a train whistle 1948 02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:50,940 I've got the in the morning if you got the train whistle Do you 1949 02:02:50,940 --> 02:02:52,890 have your eye on this earlier 1950 02:02:52,890 --> 02:02:53,160 and I 1951 02:02:54,180 --> 02:02:57,270 You're so prepared for the show. It's perfect. Yeah, 1952 02:02:58,020 --> 02:03:02,220 I didn't put it aside. Hold on a second. Just talk about 1953 02:03:02,220 --> 02:03:02,640 something 1954 02:03:05,670 --> 02:03:11,100 GE talking about something I don't want to waste any of my 1955 02:03:11,130 --> 02:03:14,070 precious material just on air while you're looking for your 1956 02:03:14,070 --> 02:03:14,910 train whistle 1957 02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:20,280 no problem. Yeah, so I have three train whistles in this 1958 02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:23,610 house and in my office I had three train whistles I can't 1959 02:03:23,610 --> 02:03:24,360 find one of them. 1960 02:03:25,590 --> 02:03:26,700 I'm so sorry. I'm 1961 02:03:26,700 --> 02:03:30,540 going to play harm Oh, I know what I'll do. Are you ready 1962 02:03:30,540 --> 02:03:33,120 harmonica played a certain way sounds like a train whistle All 1963 02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:33,540 right 1964 02:03:39,570 --> 02:03:45,030 I'd be asking for my money back all right. All right. All right. 1965 02:03:45,030 --> 02:03:48,630 All right. Hey, let's get to our Make It Rain segment we got a 1966 02:03:48,630 --> 02:03:51,480 couple the so let's do the names and the names and then we'll 1967 02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:52,080 actually make it 1968 02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:56,250 rain. Yeah, yeah. Now when you Alright, so 1969 02:03:56,250 --> 02:03:58,830 we have we have Robin bitterly. 1970 02:03:59,010 --> 02:04:01,680 What about our disorganisation during this session? 1971 02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:06,000 Rightly so, because you I mean, you are you are disorganised. 1972 02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:14,070 $111 Let me set the drift. Make It Rain give it up for Raven, we 1973 02:04:14,100 --> 02:04:16,860 were gonna play you play that Raven One then I'll play the 1974 02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:23,160 then we'll go from there. And he's got Tim Tim hassle in sacks 1975 02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:28,290 of saxapahaw, North Carolina $111.11. And he wants Sharona to 1976 02:04:28,290 --> 02:04:28,860 the stage. 1977 02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:33,780 And he says thanks to my expat daughter Elaine and Gitmo nation 1978 02:04:33,780 --> 02:04:36,990 Kiwi for hitting me in the mouth need a D douching. And a Karma 1979 02:04:36,990 --> 02:04:38,970 thanks today's podcast and universe will give you the D 1980 02:04:38,970 --> 02:04:40,620 douchey. Now the karma will come at the end. 1981 02:04:41,700 --> 02:04:46,110 Everybody Eric and deuced What is it American getting the 1982 02:04:46,260 --> 02:04:49,080 getting them out by an Australian when that should be 1983 02:04:49,080 --> 02:04:52,200 the other way around Steven van and plantago North Carolina 1984 02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:54,930 $111.11 It's okay, here we go. Ready? 1985 02:04:55,020 --> 02:04:59,100 Wait, wait, you missed Tom hassle, call Sharona to the 1986 02:04:59,100 --> 02:05:02,550 state of that. I'm sorry. Oops my mistake. 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Nice Thanks, guys. Say the warm printers heated up 2087 02:12:46,020 --> 02:12:49,440 all of a sudden the war on printers. Yep, the war on 2088 02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:53,970 printers. This was this is being covered up of course as the war 2089 02:12:53,970 --> 02:12:57,090 against 3d printed guns. Oh, 2090 02:12:57,120 --> 02:12:59,520 the war on 3d printers? Yes, yes. 2091 02:12:59,790 --> 02:13:02,610 And I actually was keeping this particular clip of 2092 02:13:02,610 --> 02:13:07,290 Representative Steve Israel who brought this up again, but I but 2093 02:13:07,290 --> 02:13:11,160 I can actually now bring this back to what's really going on. 2094 02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:12,030 It's important. 2095 02:13:12,480 --> 02:13:15,600 Well, you know, Chris, you're right, the clock is ticking. And 2096 02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:19,650 every day that goes by makes the situation much more dangerous 2097 02:13:19,650 --> 02:13:20,700 for the American people. 2098 02:13:20,760 --> 02:13:23,580 So what are we talking about here what he is talking about? 2099 02:13:24,060 --> 02:13:29,040 And what is the cover for this ultimately war on 3d printers, 2100 02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:32,700 these printers will be outlawed. And or there will be such 2101 02:13:32,700 --> 02:13:35,580 restrictions put on them that they will be almost impossible 2102 02:13:35,580 --> 02:13:39,990 to acquire without all kinds of licencing. And proof is the 2103 02:13:40,260 --> 02:13:44,310 undetectable gun law. I think that's what it's called, which 2104 02:13:44,310 --> 02:13:47,190 is set to expire. And of course it'll get renewed it's very 2105 02:13:47,190 --> 02:13:50,160 simple to do that. There's not a not a lot of problems with 2106 02:13:50,160 --> 02:13:52,740 people saying hey, you shouldn't have a gun that is undetectable 2107 02:13:52,740 --> 02:13:55,830 even though these guns that are undetectable pretty much blow up 2108 02:13:55,830 --> 02:13:59,520 in your face. So here's Dear Steve Israel running cover 2109 02:13:59,580 --> 02:14:03,600 in 1988, we passed the undetectable Firearms Act 2110 02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:06,480 because we did not think that it would be a good idea to allow 2111 02:14:06,780 --> 02:14:11,340 bad people to smuggle firearms through metal detectors on our 2112 02:14:11,340 --> 02:14:14,070 planes and in high security environments. That was done in 2113 02:14:14,070 --> 02:14:17,400 the Reagan administration. It was renewed in the Bush 2114 02:14:17,400 --> 02:14:19,980 administration, it was renewed in the Clinton administration 2115 02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:23,820 renewed again in the Bush administration. When we renewed 2116 02:14:23,820 --> 02:14:29,340 those that law, the prospect of a 3d printed plastic gun was 2117 02:14:29,340 --> 02:14:33,360 science fiction. It is a reality and we are only two weeks away 2118 02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:34,860 from the expiration of that loss. 2119 02:14:34,890 --> 02:14:37,710 Okay, so that's the cover. So what is the news that comes out 2120 02:14:37,710 --> 02:14:38,490 yesterday, Delphi 2121 02:14:38,490 --> 02:14:42,390 is about to become the first city to ban the printing of 3d 2122 02:14:42,390 --> 02:14:46,350 guns. It might seem crazy, but working guns can be made using a 2123 02:14:46,350 --> 02:14:49,740 3d printer. So the city's in the process of passing a law to 2124 02:14:49,740 --> 02:14:53,670 prevent guns and parts of a gun from being made by anyone other 2125 02:14:53,670 --> 02:14:56,640 than licenced gun makers. I think that's a safe thing to do 2126 02:14:56,640 --> 02:14:59,070 here. You never want you don't want the wrong person getting 2127 02:14:59,070 --> 02:15:01,860 the formula Oh yeah, the code formula, 2128 02:15:01,980 --> 02:15:08,070 the code Shut up, you press the tube, okay. So Philadelphia puts 2129 02:15:08,070 --> 02:15:13,620 this law down which is 130584. And it literally says, use a 2130 02:15:13,620 --> 02:15:16,440 three dimensional printer to manufacture firearms should be 2131 02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:19,440 forbidden firearm any device designed made or adapted to 2132 02:15:19,440 --> 02:15:22,200 expel a projectile through a barrel by using the energy 2133 02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:25,200 generated by an explosive or burning substance or any device 2134 02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:28,950 readily convertible to that use. So it will be a restriction on 2135 02:15:28,950 --> 02:15:32,940 use no person cell shall use a three dimensional printer to 2136 02:15:32,940 --> 02:15:36,720 create any firearm or any piece or part thereof, unless such 2137 02:15:36,720 --> 02:15:40,710 person possesses a licence to manufacture a firearm. So this 2138 02:15:40,710 --> 02:15:43,020 is, you know, how are you going to enforce that. But more 2139 02:15:43,020 --> 02:15:48,450 importantly, why why Philadelphia. And this is proof 2140 02:15:48,450 --> 02:15:52,860 of my original theory. I remember Cody Wilson, who now 2141 02:15:52,860 --> 02:15:57,810 has pretty much gone away from the 3d printed gun scene and is 2142 02:15:57,810 --> 02:16:02,610 now selling a Bitcoin wallet. That's his new thing, because 2143 02:16:02,640 --> 02:16:08,580 he's a horror for whoever he pays him to do stuff. His he 2144 02:16:08,580 --> 02:16:10,980 only needed to bring this up to the forefront. So we could all 2145 02:16:10,980 --> 02:16:15,090 be afraid of 3d printed guns to restrict these printers. Why in 2146 02:16:15,090 --> 02:16:19,080 Philadelphia, because it is in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, one 2147 02:16:19,080 --> 02:16:25,050 of the three locations of for the Department of Energy and 2148 02:16:25,050 --> 02:16:30,930 Department of Defense's additive manufacturing centres. You 2149 02:16:30,930 --> 02:16:33,120 remember the President talked about 3d printers and how 2150 02:16:33,120 --> 02:16:37,380 exciting they will be in his State of the Union, we we played 2151 02:16:37,380 --> 02:16:40,500 all those clips for you when we first came up with the idea that 2152 02:16:40,500 --> 02:16:45,120 this is about restricting 3d printers. And so it's a lot of 2153 02:16:45,120 --> 02:16:49,230 money involved. There's multiple universities in Pennsylvania, 2154 02:16:49,230 --> 02:16:53,190 Pennsylvania is a major hub. In fact, I have an article here, 2155 02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:56,730 Pennsylvania to play a major role in 3d printing explosion. 2156 02:16:56,880 --> 02:17:02,280 So we need to limit the slaves access to this technology. And 2157 02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:07,230 if you look at what's happening now GE, in the next five years, 2158 02:17:07,260 --> 02:17:11,640 they will be producing aviation parts with this technology with 2159 02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:15,150 additive additive manufacturing. And I have a couple of links in 2160 02:17:15,150 --> 02:17:20,250 the show notes. So p and if you look at rapid 2014. Well, rapid 2161 02:17:20,250 --> 02:17:25,620 2013 was the main additive manufacturing conference, which 2162 02:17:25,620 --> 02:17:33,990 was just held in, in Pittsburgh. The next one is in 2014, will be 2163 02:17:33,990 --> 02:17:38,220 held in Detroit. So I fully expect Detroit to be next on the 2164 02:17:38,220 --> 02:17:43,590 list with all kinds of banning of 3d printed guns. But put, we 2165 02:17:43,590 --> 02:17:47,100 have this in the book, mark my words, there's going to be 2166 02:17:47,100 --> 02:17:51,360 licences and restrictions, and maybe a test for you to have a 2167 02:17:51,360 --> 02:17:55,380 3d printer. And this is because the big business doesn't want 2168 02:17:55,380 --> 02:18:00,210 you to have this technology. And it's it's and it's all under the 2169 02:18:00,210 --> 02:18:03,000 guise of Oh, you're going to print something scary. So what 2170 02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:06,510 will it be next? What will the next scary thing be that you can 2171 02:18:06,510 --> 02:18:08,370 print that there's going to be some restriction on? 2172 02:18:11,129 --> 02:18:12,149 A hand grenade? 2173 02:18:13,379 --> 02:18:17,969 No, it'll be something it'll be it'll be, you know, it's coming. 2174 02:18:18,029 --> 02:18:21,869 The so of course, these printers you can buy now most of them are 2175 02:18:23,039 --> 02:18:25,499 kind of for entertainment purposes, I think, Oh, they're 2176 02:18:25,499 --> 02:18:26,099 junk. 2177 02:18:26,129 --> 02:18:26,459 Yeah. 2178 02:18:27,299 --> 02:18:31,289 But it is it is eventually going to be something really cool, but 2179 02:18:31,289 --> 02:18:34,709 you're just not going to be allowed to have it. Unless 2180 02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:43,229 people start getting in. I think that this is a bad law. Everyone 2181 02:18:43,229 --> 02:18:46,379 thinks Oh, of course. But if you can, if you can get one law push 2182 02:18:46,379 --> 02:18:49,889 through that restricts using something for a certain purpose, 2183 02:18:50,099 --> 02:18:53,039 which you don't need because there's all kinds of laws about 2184 02:18:53,369 --> 02:18:58,259 manufacturing things and and how many and for what you said, you 2185 02:18:58,259 --> 02:19:02,429 don't need an extra law to forbid the the printing of gun 2186 02:19:02,429 --> 02:19:06,179 parts. We're gonna have the Stasi knocking on my door to 2187 02:19:06,179 --> 02:19:08,639 come and check and see if I don't have a lower receiver I 2188 02:19:08,639 --> 02:19:09,299 printed. 2189 02:19:10,799 --> 02:19:13,199 Yeah, no, it's something I think. I don't know if you've 2190 02:19:13,199 --> 02:19:16,199 hit this one. But there's something screwy about this. 2191 02:19:16,440 --> 02:19:19,380 I'm telling you, John, it's to outlaw this technology. 2192 02:19:20,249 --> 02:19:22,799 No, I'm not buying into this at all. 2193 02:19:22,829 --> 02:19:26,939 Okay, well, it'll take some time but you This is my been my 2194 02:19:26,939 --> 02:19:29,699 theory. And now all of a sudden Philadelphia one of the three 2195 02:19:29,699 --> 02:19:35,099 major hubs of 3d printing. Coincidence is rather large. 2196 02:19:38,610 --> 02:19:47,460 I guess. I was stung by a piece of news today. ABC News wins 2197 02:19:47,460 --> 02:19:48,210 awards. 2198 02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:53,550 at ABC World News with Diane Sawyer honoured winner of the 2199 02:19:53,550 --> 02:19:57,510 prestigious Edward R. Murrow Award for Best Newscast, ABC 2200 02:19:57,510 --> 02:20:01,350 News, honoured with five Murrow awards. See no wonder more 2201 02:20:01,350 --> 02:20:07,020 Americans choose ABC News. Wasn't that the World News 2202 02:20:07,020 --> 02:20:11,220 Tonight that did the dog and the puppy story? Yeah, yeah. I think 2203 02:20:11,250 --> 02:20:11,520 no, I 2204 02:20:11,520 --> 02:20:15,570 could do that I could record World News Tonight with Diane 2205 02:20:15,570 --> 02:20:18,600 Sawyer every night and there's no world news in any of the 2206 02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:22,770 stories. And as always heard Neil breathlessly talking about 2207 02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:26,760 something on Twitter. How does she win anything? Or there's 2208 02:20:26,790 --> 02:20:30,930 broadcast? It's one five or six. Obviously there are the Edward 2209 02:20:30,930 --> 02:20:35,520 R. Murrow award is a piece of crap. who distributes this 2210 02:20:35,580 --> 02:20:40,290 award. I know I know, Edward R. Murrow was out of CBS write some 2211 02:20:40,290 --> 02:20:43,080 group but yeah, but CBS isn't given an ABC or what is the 2212 02:20:43,080 --> 02:20:48,000 Is this the the protection of journalism awards? No, no, and 2213 02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:54,330 our T DNA? What is this our T dna.org. Here's Edward R. Murrow 2214 02:20:54,360 --> 02:21:00,570 award. Of course, for this, we just have to there's several 2215 02:21:01,860 --> 02:21:06,180 good news casts not the person she doesn't get the award. But 2216 02:21:06,180 --> 02:21:10,260 their show does. You know the outstanding achievements in 2217 02:21:10,260 --> 02:21:14,550 electronic journalism since 1971, who's the Radio Television 2218 02:21:14,550 --> 02:21:17,190 digital news Association, they dropped digital and only 2219 02:21:17,190 --> 02:21:17,760 recently. 2220 02:21:19,170 --> 02:21:20,340 It's like the web these. 2221 02:21:23,700 --> 02:21:28,170 Check here for rules and entry requirements. And so then they 2222 02:21:28,170 --> 02:21:34,320 doubt you download this huge or not, you can just PDF which is 2223 02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:36,180 thinking I'm gonna see what this is. I'll betcha is one of the 2224 02:21:36,180 --> 02:21:37,170 things you have to pay. 2225 02:21:37,649 --> 02:21:41,489 Oh, yeah. Oh, no doubt. They all have to pay for everything they 2226 02:21:41,489 --> 02:21:44,729 all have to pay don't pay for ultimately, one way or the 2227 02:21:44,729 --> 02:21:45,089 other. 2228 02:21:45,570 --> 02:21:48,000 Now, there are some awards of legitimate awards. You don't pay 2229 02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:52,200 necessarily to get an Emmy. He had to be a member member of 2230 02:21:52,200 --> 02:21:55,050 the Academy. Sure. Expensive. It couldn't be a member. 2231 02:21:57,059 --> 02:21:58,679 Not look into this. Yeah. 2232 02:21:58,950 --> 02:22:02,010 Well, it's it's award season, you know, it's time it's time. 2233 02:22:02,430 --> 02:22:04,560 Every year, we got to start doing stuff like that. 2234 02:22:04,979 --> 02:22:08,969 Wait a minute website who's eligible to enter this category? 2235 02:22:09,269 --> 02:22:13,679 What do I need to enter? five examples of functioning cached 2236 02:22:13,679 --> 02:22:17,189 or active URL URLs that demonstrate the exceptional news 2237 02:22:17,189 --> 02:22:19,829 coverage and journalists the Dvorak uncensored, perfect. 2238 02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:23,550 About the show notes, we can send them 2239 02:22:23,579 --> 02:22:26,249 the show notes are stunning. We should do enter the shownotes 2240 02:22:26,249 --> 02:22:34,379 569 links to stuff nuts, not seeing that there's a fee here. 2241 02:22:36,329 --> 02:22:39,359 February 7 2014 to get it together, we can get it well let 2242 02:22:39,359 --> 02:22:45,779 me Oh, entry fees. Oh, how much website Oh, listen to this if 2243 02:22:45,779 --> 02:22:49,769 your radio station and your non member, or members Hi, but if 2244 02:22:49,769 --> 02:22:54,779 say your non member view radio has cost you $120 to enter. If 2245 02:22:54,779 --> 02:22:58,649 you're a TV, it costs you $200 to enter. So what do you think a 2246 02:22:58,649 --> 02:23:08,339 website should cost? $5 $245 It costs more than a television 2247 02:23:08,339 --> 02:23:08,939 station. 2248 02:23:11,129 --> 02:23:11,969 Oh, that's funny. 2249 02:23:12,420 --> 02:23:15,330 So the websites the most expensive they don't want 2250 02:23:15,630 --> 02:23:19,830 anybody that could possibly have a quality product entering this 2251 02:23:19,830 --> 02:23:23,220 competition. The Edward R. Murrow awards when you hear 2252 02:23:23,220 --> 02:23:25,200 about anyone winning them, it's another one of these things 2253 02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:29,280 where you got to pay to be eligible. And it's bull crap. 2254 02:23:31,590 --> 02:23:34,140 Anyway, and there you have it. 2255 02:23:34,170 --> 02:23:36,480 All right. I did some journalistic work. And I think I 2256 02:23:36,480 --> 02:23:40,320 came up with something that is a smoking gun. Like it was not 2257 02:23:40,320 --> 02:23:43,230 easy. By the way. There's a lot of work that went into this. And 2258 02:23:43,230 --> 02:23:46,050 here's the clip. We're just 2259 02:23:46,049 --> 02:23:48,989 learning that a judge has now ordered the release of 911 calls 2260 02:23:48,989 --> 02:23:52,259 from the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary. This just one day 2261 02:23:52,259 --> 02:23:56,429 after report revealed chilling new details, shooter and images 2262 02:23:56,429 --> 02:24:00,239 from that horrific day and larger concerns about mental 2263 02:24:00,239 --> 02:24:03,029 health in this country and whether it's in crisis, or Brian 2264 02:24:03,029 --> 02:24:05,399 Todd is working on this part of the story. Brian, what are you 2265 02:24:05,399 --> 02:24:05,879 finding out? 2266 02:24:05,940 --> 02:24:08,940 Well, Jim, experts have told me no doubt that mental health in 2267 02:24:08,940 --> 02:24:12,900 the US is in crisis. They say that crisis is manifesting 2268 02:24:12,900 --> 02:24:16,530 itself in rampage killings, other horrific incidents like 2269 02:24:16,530 --> 02:24:19,260 the Newtown shootings. A new report, which includes some 2270 02:24:19,260 --> 02:24:22,140 jarring photographs, addresses the mental health of shooter 2271 02:24:22,140 --> 02:24:28,140 Adam Lanza. The shot out windows of the entrance to Sandy Hook 2272 02:24:28,140 --> 02:24:31,740 Elementary School, the Bushmaster rifle used to kill 20 2273 02:24:31,740 --> 02:24:35,790 children and six adults. Newly released bone chilling images of 2274 02:24:35,790 --> 02:24:38,940 the crime scene in the Newtown shootings from Connecticut State 2275 02:24:38,940 --> 02:24:42,660 investigators black plastic bags taped over the windows of his 2276 02:24:42,660 --> 02:24:46,860 bedroom mirror the dark mind of shooter Adam Lanza. Just off his 2277 02:24:46,860 --> 02:24:49,980 computer room, there's a gun locker, a gun still perched 2278 02:24:49,980 --> 02:24:53,790 inside. The new report says Lanza did a spreadsheet on other 2279 02:24:53,790 --> 02:24:57,870 mass murders kept a newspaper clipping from an 1891 school 2280 02:24:57,870 --> 02:24:58,290 shooting. 2281 02:24:58,680 --> 02:25:02,250 Adam Lanza is sort Have a blackbox in which we see the 2282 02:25:02,250 --> 02:25:07,170 crash. But we don't really know what happened that led to the 2283 02:25:07,170 --> 02:25:07,860 crash. 2284 02:25:07,950 --> 02:25:10,770 The report says Lanza had significant mental health 2285 02:25:10,770 --> 02:25:14,190 issues, but the professionals who saw him did not see anything 2286 02:25:14,190 --> 02:25:16,980 that would have predicted his future behaviour. What may 2287 02:25:16,980 --> 02:25:21,510 happen is that if you cannot definitively say that that 2288 02:25:21,510 --> 02:25:25,230 patient is a danger to themselves, or others or 2289 02:25:25,230 --> 02:25:30,540 property, then you don't turn them over to the police. This is 2290 02:25:30,540 --> 02:25:33,780 a tale of two families and their struggles with mental health. 2291 02:25:33,930 --> 02:25:36,840 The lands now pay attention to this because this is where we 2292 02:25:36,840 --> 02:25:39,960 see the narrative morphing towards what it really is all 2293 02:25:39,960 --> 02:25:44,370 about, not about guns, but it's a war on crazy. And so they take 2294 02:25:44,400 --> 02:25:47,310 all of a sudden it's a story about two families completely 2295 02:25:47,340 --> 02:25:52,020 unrelated story, but it's all about health care, how you take 2296 02:25:52,020 --> 02:25:55,890 care of someone how you if they're crazy, what constitutes 2297 02:25:55,890 --> 02:25:59,310 is crazy and and be careful because you don't want to be 2298 02:25:59,310 --> 02:26:00,600 labelled as crazy family 2299 02:26:00,599 --> 02:26:03,809 whose efforts to get treatment for their son are unclear. And 2300 02:26:03,809 --> 02:26:07,229 the family of Virginia State Senator Cree deeds, their son 2301 02:26:07,229 --> 02:26:10,679 Austin was evaluated for mental illness, he was released from a 2302 02:26:10,679 --> 02:26:13,829 hospital a day before he repeatedly stabbed his father 2303 02:26:13,829 --> 02:26:17,069 and then killed himself released because according to the 2304 02:26:17,069 --> 02:26:20,069 Rockbridge, Area Community Services Board in Virginia, 2305 02:26:20,249 --> 02:26:23,909 there were no psychiatric beds available. CNN later learned at 2306 02:26:23,909 --> 02:26:26,459 least three hospitals in the state had beds. 2307 02:26:26,639 --> 02:26:30,479 Now this is a very disgusting way of reporting is really, 2308 02:26:30,479 --> 02:26:33,719 really not okay, what they're doing particularly in light of 2309 02:26:34,079 --> 02:26:37,169 all of this so called documentation that came out 2310 02:26:37,169 --> 02:26:41,789 regarding Adam Lanza, and in the sand, so called Sandy Hook 2311 02:26:41,789 --> 02:26:45,749 shooting. So there's two documents or two PDFs and I have 2312 02:26:45,749 --> 02:26:51,119 both of them in the show notes. And one is the final report, 2313 02:26:51,119 --> 02:26:54,899 which most people are referring to, and the other is the 2314 02:26:54,929 --> 02:27:00,299 compressed PDF, with all of the pictures the chilling pictures, 2315 02:27:00,299 --> 02:27:03,629 which consists of nothing. So first of all, you have to you 2316 02:27:03,629 --> 02:27:07,559 cannot open this compressed PDF unless you are using the Adobe 2317 02:27:07,559 --> 02:27:13,889 Reader project product. The Adobe Reader product is which I 2318 02:27:13,889 --> 02:27:19,379 did instal in order to open the archive is a piece of spying 2319 02:27:19,379 --> 02:27:24,869 crap, which I in the shownotes have also put to Section seven 2320 02:27:24,899 --> 02:27:27,749 have the terms of service which you have to agree to, to use the 2321 02:27:27,749 --> 02:27:31,289 product regarding connectivity and privacy, which you pretty 2322 02:27:31,289 --> 02:27:34,199 much don't have, because this thing talks back to home base 2323 02:27:34,199 --> 02:27:37,859 about what you're reading, how you're reading, it can pass 2324 02:27:38,039 --> 02:27:41,909 passwords, usernames, all kinds of all kinds of stuff. So it's 2325 02:27:41,999 --> 02:27:46,949 spyware. The pictures they have in this you the ones you've seen 2326 02:27:46,949 --> 02:27:50,189 on television is pretty much what it is. There's a picture of 2327 02:27:50,189 --> 02:27:55,619 a shot out a pane of glass at the front of the school, and 2328 02:27:55,619 --> 02:27:59,339 then they show examples of doorknobs they don't show the 2329 02:27:59,339 --> 02:28:03,989 actual doorknobs. It even says in the document, example of a 2330 02:28:03,989 --> 02:28:08,069 store a doorknob to a classroom, you know, classrooms aid, it's 2331 02:28:08,069 --> 02:28:10,409 not even the real picture. It's just an example. So there's 2332 02:28:10,409 --> 02:28:13,259 nothing there's not a single picture in there of anything 2333 02:28:13,259 --> 02:28:15,599 that shows that anything happened not even a picture of 2334 02:28:15,599 --> 02:28:21,449 blood, nothing, nothing nothing but what I found in the in the 2335 02:28:21,449 --> 02:28:25,109 notes of this final report, very interesting footnote 53 2336 02:28:25,169 --> 02:28:31,949 Regarding the Bushmaster, this is the read you what it says and 2337 02:28:31,949 --> 02:28:34,019 I'll read a footnote that's referred to and this is really 2338 02:28:34,019 --> 02:28:35,939 all I need to say and then you'll know what's going on 2339 02:28:36,179 --> 02:28:39,329 Bushmaster model XM one five dash e to a semi automatic 2340 02:28:39,329 --> 02:28:42,119 rifle, the Bushmaster rifle was found in classroom 10. The 2341 02:28:42,119 --> 02:28:44,519 Bushmaster was tested and found to be operable without 2342 02:28:44,519 --> 02:28:48,389 malfunction all of the 5.56 millimetre shell casings from 2343 02:28:48,389 --> 02:28:50,309 Sandy Hook Elementary School that were tested were found to 2344 02:28:50,309 --> 02:28:53,549 have been fired from this rifle. All of the bullets and fragments 2345 02:28:53,549 --> 02:28:57,599 recovered from SHGs and the OC me that were tested with the 2346 02:28:57,599 --> 02:29:00,449 exception of those mentioned immediately below are consistent 2347 02:29:00,989 --> 02:29:04,619 with having been fired from the Bushmaster rifle footnote 53 2348 02:29:05,489 --> 02:29:10,709 footnote 53 no positive identification could be made to 2349 02:29:10,739 --> 02:29:15,479 any of the bullet evidence submissions noted. To repeat 2350 02:29:15,479 --> 02:29:19,739 that, no positive identification could be made to any of the 2351 02:29:19,739 --> 02:29:23,999 bullet evidence submissions noted. In five point 56 2352 02:29:23,999 --> 02:29:26,699 millimetre calibre the physical condition of the bullet jacket 2353 02:29:26,699 --> 02:29:30,089 surfaces were severely damaged and corroded. They all lacked 2354 02:29:30,089 --> 02:29:34,439 individuals strike good marks of sufficient agreement for 2355 02:29:34,439 --> 02:29:38,969 identification purposes. The test fires also exhibited a lack 2356 02:29:38,969 --> 02:29:41,549 of individual strated marks on the bullet surface for 2357 02:29:41,549 --> 02:29:44,939 comparison purposes. This condition can be caused by 2358 02:29:44,939 --> 02:29:48,899 falling in the barrel, the rifle etc. So, just so you know, no 2359 02:29:48,899 --> 02:29:52,319 positive identification could be made to any of the bullet 2360 02:29:52,319 --> 02:29:55,829 evidence submission noted. That's funny, I didn't hear 2361 02:29:55,829 --> 02:30:01,769 anyone mentioned that. Other testing In the course of the 2362 02:30:01,769 --> 02:30:04,979 investigation, swabbing PSA test for DNA were taken from various 2363 02:30:04,979 --> 02:30:07,679 pieces of evidence in the case of the Sandy Hook Elementary 2364 02:30:07,679 --> 02:30:11,939 School and 36 Uganda, St. Yogananda Street. The purpose 2365 02:30:11,939 --> 02:30:14,249 was to determine if anyone else had actively been involved in 2366 02:30:14,249 --> 02:30:17,219 the planning or carrying shooting of the shootings. These 2367 02:30:17,219 --> 02:30:21,929 swabs were tested and compared to known samples. To have the ID 2368 02:30:21,959 --> 02:30:24,419 footnote, two of the items examined from outside the 2369 02:30:24,419 --> 02:30:26,669 building of Sandy hooks elementary school, one from the 2370 02:30:26,669 --> 02:30:30,719 shotgun in the shooters car. That's that we saw that in the 2371 02:30:30,719 --> 02:30:35,639 trunk, which was handled by the police officers, and a second 2372 02:30:35,639 --> 02:30:39,149 from 36 Yogananda street yield the DNA profiles consistent with 2373 02:30:39,149 --> 02:30:43,049 the DNA profiles of two of the victims killed inside Sandy Hook 2374 02:30:43,049 --> 02:30:46,919 Elementary School, one in each. It is strongly believed that 2375 02:30:46,919 --> 02:30:51,209 this resulted from an accidental transference as a result of the 2376 02:30:51,209 --> 02:30:54,479 unique circumstances of this case, there is no reason to 2377 02:30:54,479 --> 02:30:56,999 believe that either victim would ever have come in contact with 2378 02:30:56,999 --> 02:31:05,069 these items yet their DNA is on them. This stinks. We have DNA 2379 02:31:05,069 --> 02:31:10,499 evidence of victims on weapons found outside the school and we 2380 02:31:10,499 --> 02:31:16,559 have inconclusive ballistics on any of the bullets fired, 2381 02:31:16,859 --> 02:31:18,719 and they're all corroded for some reason. 2382 02:31:19,469 --> 02:31:23,429 This is so and there's tonnes of stuff in here that isn't 2383 02:31:23,459 --> 02:31:25,979 discussed. I mean, the things the items that I find 2384 02:31:26,009 --> 02:31:30,899 interesting that were found in atom lenses room are documents 2385 02:31:30,899 --> 02:31:35,489 about child abuse, how to live with child abuse this who knows 2386 02:31:35,489 --> 02:31:39,239 what man who knows what may have been going on at the school or 2387 02:31:39,239 --> 02:31:42,089 in this community and what this kid was really doing you know 2388 02:31:42,089 --> 02:31:48,719 there's a number was a Dunblane were the were the to have the 2389 02:31:48,749 --> 02:31:51,869 the Boomtown Rats song I don't like Mondays thing was Dunblane 2390 02:31:52,529 --> 02:31:55,709 where the now years later the story comes out that there was 2391 02:31:55,709 --> 02:31:59,189 child abuse going on at this school. And you know, the guy 2392 02:31:59,189 --> 02:32:02,039 went in he said he'd rather kill the children and put them out of 2393 02:32:02,039 --> 02:32:06,329 their misery than be abused by whatever pedo bear ring was, was 2394 02:32:06,329 --> 02:32:10,019 in this community. This is an angle that that I don't have 2395 02:32:10,019 --> 02:32:14,519 time for it. But it shouldn't it should be looked into. Well, 2396 02:32:14,520 --> 02:32:17,250 you know that you have to wonder why the school had that weird 2397 02:32:17,250 --> 02:32:22,260 locked down prison like quality? Because it had you know, a 2398 02:32:22,260 --> 02:32:24,480 locked door in the front. You couldn't just wander in like 2399 02:32:24,480 --> 02:32:26,820 normal schools, you can if you're a parent, you just go in 2400 02:32:26,850 --> 02:32:27,150 is that 2401 02:32:27,299 --> 02:32:29,999 is that to lock people out? Or to lock people in? You've always 2402 02:32:29,999 --> 02:32:31,019 got a question that, 2403 02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:34,470 well, there you go, it could be either way, probably both. And 2404 02:32:34,470 --> 02:32:38,010 then you tear the school down completely. Because where 2405 02:32:38,010 --> 02:32:41,670 they're gone is gone. What's it what was in there, were there. 2406 02:32:42,480 --> 02:32:44,640 If you're going to bring it go into the direction you're headed 2407 02:32:44,640 --> 02:32:48,330 here? Were there certain kinds of chains and things where they 2408 02:32:48,360 --> 02:32:53,190 hang the kids from your arms or with them? I mean, you could 2409 02:32:53,190 --> 02:32:55,710 have been a bunch of dungeons in there for all you know, 2410 02:32:55,740 --> 02:33:01,350 which is, you know, look at the Isle of Jersey, at the at the 2411 02:33:01,650 --> 02:33:05,130 hospice there. I mean, it's all this really happens people. 2412 02:33:05,849 --> 02:33:08,909 Yeah, it does happen. And then he had that odd situation where 2413 02:33:08,909 --> 02:33:12,809 the kids formed a ring in front of some guy's house and they 2414 02:33:12,809 --> 02:33:15,269 were just sitting there chanting or something and we don't even 2415 02:33:15,269 --> 02:33:18,239 know what that that was all about. And then there's the this 2416 02:33:18,239 --> 02:33:21,809 whole story I think, I think you hit the nail on the head. This 2417 02:33:21,809 --> 02:33:23,249 story stinks. 2418 02:33:23,879 --> 02:33:27,809 So another thing you can't do with the Compress report is you 2419 02:33:27,809 --> 02:33:32,489 can't do markups unless I guess you'd buy some other tool from 2420 02:33:32,489 --> 02:33:38,579 Adobe. So I made a couple snapshots everything by the way 2421 02:33:38,579 --> 02:33:44,849 is redacted. It's it's it's really useless as you would get 2422 02:33:44,849 --> 02:33:48,899 the word it's pretty used here this example classroom restroom 2423 02:33:48,899 --> 02:33:54,989 door lock exterior, but it's not the door lock. It's examples you 2424 02:33:54,989 --> 02:34:06,419 know, which is done at like Home Depot. Then the you know, where 2425 02:34:06,419 --> 02:34:11,729 is Ryan Lanza? Is he are he and Adam Lanza the same person? 2426 02:34:12,809 --> 02:34:17,279 There's, there's so many open questions, so many men, you 2427 02:34:17,279 --> 02:34:20,279 know, I think I've given a lot of markups in the in the 2428 02:34:20,279 --> 02:34:25,349 documents. But there's also, you know, the, as you pointed out 2429 02:34:25,349 --> 02:34:27,539 the tearing down of the school, and then there's the lawyer 2430 02:34:27,659 --> 02:34:35,069 Monty Frank. This is he's a lawyer for the Newtown victims 2431 02:34:35,069 --> 02:34:38,579 Association, I believe, none of these so called Foundations, I 2432 02:34:38,579 --> 02:34:43,739 can't find them. In GuideStar can't find their 5013 c status. 2433 02:34:43,739 --> 02:34:46,919 You know, it's all maybe they had never filed maybe, you know, 2434 02:34:46,919 --> 02:34:49,829 they'd be late for the 2012 filing by now, but okay, you 2435 02:34:49,829 --> 02:34:50,939 know, I just can't find it. 2436 02:34:51,240 --> 02:34:53,940 Yeah, I would be concerned about that. And I also understand 2437 02:34:53,940 --> 02:34:57,480 that, you know, there there are some efforts in the journalism 2438 02:34:57,480 --> 02:35:01,230 community to try to release the rest of the information in the 2439 02:35:01,350 --> 02:35:03,360 interest of public attention. 2440 02:35:03,420 --> 02:35:06,450 Yeah, because we're missing some vital points. We're missing the 2441 02:35:06,450 --> 02:35:09,930 police timeline. We're missing 2442 02:35:10,080 --> 02:35:13,710 that let you redact the timeline? Well, because 2443 02:35:13,739 --> 02:35:14,999 there's something to hide 2444 02:35:15,030 --> 02:35:18,660 to be brought to tell everything that happened. Do you see that 2445 02:35:18,660 --> 02:35:21,360 as being an effective tool? Is that something that the general 2446 02:35:21,360 --> 02:35:24,660 public really should know the full scope of the investigation? 2447 02:35:25,260 --> 02:35:28,260 Well, isn't this the most transparent administration in 2448 02:35:28,260 --> 02:35:28,890 history? 2449 02:35:29,969 --> 02:35:33,509 I don't think so. You know, there needs to be a balance 2450 02:35:33,509 --> 02:35:38,969 between first amendment rights, people's curiosity, and the 2451 02:35:38,969 --> 02:35:43,619 rights of the community isn't really all that important that 2452 02:35:43,619 --> 02:35:48,419 the details of what occurred at the school come out? Yeah. When 2453 02:35:48,449 --> 02:35:51,959 it's only going to serve to again, hinder the healing 2454 02:35:51,959 --> 02:35:55,829 process and the town caused people in the town to have to 2455 02:35:56,249 --> 02:36:01,439 block out media. You know, today, we had media trucks and 2456 02:36:01,439 --> 02:36:04,229 helicopters hovering in town, and that only serves as a 2457 02:36:04,229 --> 02:36:07,559 reminder of what occurred back in December. 2458 02:36:07,589 --> 02:36:09,689 Yeah, I think it's very important that we know exactly 2459 02:36:09,689 --> 02:36:14,039 what happened particularly if you listen to Dr. Drew. Now this 2460 02:36:14,039 --> 02:36:19,889 is not Dr. Drew on HLN. This is Dr. Drew on love lines, or I 2461 02:36:19,889 --> 02:36:23,279 think maybe the podcast I don't know, because he's dropping F 2462 02:36:23,279 --> 02:36:28,199 bombs and stuff. Dr. Drew is the spokes hole now for the war on 2463 02:36:28,199 --> 02:36:33,569 crazy. And he wants to I think he essentially wants HIPAA to be 2464 02:36:33,569 --> 02:36:38,489 amended or or struck down so that a doctor who feels that you 2465 02:36:38,489 --> 02:36:42,359 know, you may be a danger. For whatever reason, you know, that 2466 02:36:42,359 --> 02:36:45,389 you can just basically be committed by well by Dr. Drew 2467 02:36:45,420 --> 02:36:48,840 both that guy at Virginia Tech and the kid in Aurora, Colorado 2468 02:36:48,840 --> 02:36:52,050 and just about and the kid in Connecticut all had 2469 02:36:52,050 --> 02:36:55,380 psychiatrists worsening mental health, who couldn't fucking do 2470 02:36:55,380 --> 02:36:58,320 their job because their rights and privileges couldn't be 2471 02:36:58,350 --> 02:37:00,900 infringed upon. You understand? Yes, 2472 02:37:00,930 --> 02:37:04,230 you understand my views are oh, so this is interesting. Dr. 2473 02:37:04,230 --> 02:37:06,600 Drew's angry about people having rights. Alright, so 2474 02:37:06,599 --> 02:37:11,009 here's what happened. He was on a held hold psychotic, in a 2475 02:37:11,009 --> 02:37:15,839 hospital, released on a bunch of meds Prozac, one of them was 2476 02:37:15,869 --> 02:37:19,889 allowed to return to school was mandated to follow up, nobody 2477 02:37:19,889 --> 02:37:23,279 checked. So here's the deal. The school should be held 2478 02:37:23,279 --> 02:37:26,339 accountable, like hey, you have a chronic severe psychiatric 2479 02:37:26,339 --> 02:37:29,579 illness which impairs you and endangers your safety and the 2480 02:37:29,579 --> 02:37:32,939 communities in order to enrol this school we need weekly to be 2481 02:37:32,939 --> 02:37:35,909 able to see you're taking your meds or at least monthly sure 2482 02:37:35,909 --> 02:37:39,449 else you're not enrolled here just nothing cannot infringe on 2483 02:37:39,449 --> 02:37:39,929 those freedoms. 2484 02:37:40,289 --> 02:37:44,459 Nice so so we need the doctor Drew was saying that you know, 2485 02:37:44,459 --> 02:37:48,599 of course we have 20% of all the kids on drugs we have the school 2486 02:37:48,599 --> 02:37:52,229 has to check. The training facility will check to make sure 2487 02:37:52,229 --> 02:37:55,349 you took your meds which is exactly what they do in jail. 2488 02:37:56,279 --> 02:38:00,539 And he's complaining that people have rights that don't allow 2489 02:38:00,539 --> 02:38:03,059 this to happen. Well if you remember that's the fight I got 2490 02:38:03,059 --> 02:38:06,269 into a John fabro that gave me that panic attack back right. He 2491 02:38:06,269 --> 02:38:08,159 was talking to a guy like your brother he goes don't let 2492 02:38:08,189 --> 02:38:11,039 anybody tell you you should take meds I was like, whoa, 2493 02:38:11,129 --> 02:38:15,149 hold on. You're in danger. I can't allow you to say that we 2494 02:38:15,149 --> 02:38:18,449 got each other's face over and really Yeah, cuz it really got 2495 02:38:18,449 --> 02:38:20,549 me it's like you weren't you weren't endangering somebody's 2496 02:38:20,549 --> 02:38:22,049 life or the Who the fuck are you? 2497 02:38:23,159 --> 02:38:28,109 There it is. Dr. Drew wants to drug you make sure you're taking 2498 02:38:28,109 --> 02:38:30,299 the drugs and lock you up 2499 02:38:32,639 --> 02:38:34,199 well, there you go. There you have it. 2500 02:38:34,290 --> 02:38:36,270 This guy's a danger to society. 2501 02:38:36,600 --> 02:38:43,140 That guy's the guy should be locked up apparently. There's a 2502 02:38:43,140 --> 02:38:46,320 couple of interesting reports showed up on Democracy Now I 2503 02:38:46,320 --> 02:38:49,710 thought was interesting. Is of course this is like one of 2504 02:38:49,710 --> 02:38:50,130 those. 2505 02:38:50,429 --> 02:38:52,319 Watch that I can't watch it. 2506 02:38:53,370 --> 02:38:56,070 Right now. You can watch it but the clip I took I left in a 2507 02:38:56,070 --> 02:38:58,890 little bit of the music so you could listen to Amy back now. 2508 02:38:59,219 --> 02:39:02,639 She recommends. Where's Amy today? 2509 02:39:03,059 --> 02:39:06,749 So it'd be here. Here's what the thing is. This is like one of 2510 02:39:06,749 --> 02:39:11,039 these although some lawyers are crooked. Oh, milk goes bad if 2511 02:39:11,039 --> 02:39:14,639 you leave it out kind of stories. But it's still this is 2512 02:39:14,639 --> 02:39:16,379 corporate espionage part one. 2513 02:39:24,570 --> 02:39:27,330 pasca live I Spy This is Democracy. 2514 02:39:29,459 --> 02:39:35,519 Eyes. Bye. Great. She's really good at that. Just play that 2515 02:39:35,519 --> 02:39:37,799 again. That was good. I'm glad you did that. That's very nice. 2516 02:39:39,419 --> 02:39:41,459 Everybody is 100 with Amy Goodman asks 2517 02:39:45,240 --> 02:39:49,710 Kyle paska love I spy. This is Democracy Now. democracynow.org 2518 02:39:49,710 --> 02:39:51,870 The War and Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman, as we turned to 2519 02:39:51,870 --> 02:39:52,260 does that 2520 02:39:52,260 --> 02:39:54,840 well, too. This is Democracy democracy now.org The War and 2521 02:39:54,840 --> 02:39:56,940 Peace Report. Hey everybody, it's one. 2522 02:39:58,170 --> 02:40:01,650 I don't have it on the show. But I have a clip buffer a prattling 2523 02:40:01,650 --> 02:40:04,980 off the end at the end being really really late in it but 2524 02:40:04,980 --> 02:40:08,190 it's still having to announce some people's names. Yeah, she 2525 02:40:08,190 --> 02:40:12,000 is a world beater in terms of fast talker 2526 02:40:12,030 --> 02:40:15,330 she should do like a time and temperature check at this. 2527 02:40:15,780 --> 02:40:19,260 Everybody remarks not democracy dot democracy now.org War and 2528 02:40:19,260 --> 02:40:22,440 Peace Report 145 35 degrees here in Washington DC 2529 02:40:23,010 --> 02:40:26,010 now democracynow.org The War and Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman, 2530 02:40:26,010 --> 02:40:28,650 as we turned to a new report detailing how corporations are 2531 02:40:28,650 --> 02:40:33,090 increasingly spying on nonprofit groups that they regard as 2532 02:40:33,090 --> 02:40:37,230 potential threats. The reports called spooky business corporate 2533 02:40:37,230 --> 02:40:40,320 espionage against nonprofit organisations who was released 2534 02:40:40,320 --> 02:40:42,900 by the corporate watchdog group essential information. The 2535 02:40:42,900 --> 02:40:47,070 report found a diverse group of nonprofits have been targeted 2536 02:40:47,070 --> 02:40:49,710 with espionage including environmental anti war, public 2537 02:40:49,710 --> 02:40:52,590 interest, consumer safety, pesticide reform, gun control, 2538 02:40:52,590 --> 02:40:55,650 social justice, animal rights and arms control groups the 2539 02:40:55,650 --> 02:41:00,150 corporation's carrying out the spying include the US Chamber of 2540 02:41:00,150 --> 02:41:05,190 Commerce, Walmart, Monsanto, Bank of America, Dow Chemical, 2541 02:41:05,220 --> 02:41:09,090 Kraft, Coca Cola, Chevron, Burger King, McDonald's, Shell, 2542 02:41:09,090 --> 02:41:12,510 BP and others. According to that report, these corporations 2543 02:41:12,510 --> 02:41:17,100 employ former CIA, NSA and FBI agents to engage in private 2544 02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:19,710 surveillance work, which is often illegal in nature, but 2545 02:41:19,710 --> 02:41:21,270 rarely if ever prosecuted. 2546 02:41:23,340 --> 02:41:28,890 Oh, hold on a second. Hold on a second, Mr. Dvorak. I think 2547 02:41:28,890 --> 02:41:32,640 without a doubt clip, 2548 02:41:33,690 --> 02:41:35,520 not even close to being a good clip. 2549 02:41:36,120 --> 02:41:40,050 It's a great clip when he talks about it solidifies the theory 2550 02:41:40,050 --> 02:41:45,750 completely. That the NSA is just spying fall. 2551 02:41:45,750 --> 02:41:50,460 Yeah, they're right there on. Right, are Bedwell blackmail to 2552 02:41:51,120 --> 02:41:54,120 there was a heck some clip there was about blackmail. That was 2553 02:41:54,150 --> 02:41:55,320 What's this? What's this? Number two, 2554 02:41:55,350 --> 02:41:58,140 this is a long one. The number two is a guy this is the guy was 2555 02:41:58,140 --> 02:42:03,690 long because this this Hummer, who's more of an I mean, I'll 2556 02:42:03,690 --> 02:42:05,880 ring the bell a few times. But it's just like it's out of 2557 02:42:05,880 --> 02:42:09,090 control, is the guy who's partly responsible for doing the 2558 02:42:09,090 --> 02:42:12,240 report, I think is by lines on it. We weren't as long. 2559 02:42:13,889 --> 02:42:16,649 Or we go to California, where we're joined by their person or 2560 02:42:16,799 --> 02:42:20,129 the report's author, Gary Raskin. He's the director of the 2561 02:42:20,129 --> 02:42:22,679 Centre for corporate policy, a project of essential 2562 02:42:22,679 --> 02:42:26,099 information. Gary, welcome back to Democracy Now. Explain what 2563 02:42:26,099 --> 02:42:26,969 you found. 2564 02:42:28,500 --> 02:42:30,960 Thanks for having me on the show again, Amy. Yeah, we found a 2565 02:42:30,960 --> 02:42:33,870 tremendous diversity of corporate espionage being 2566 02:42:33,870 --> 02:42:36,810 conducted against a wide variety of civic groups across the 2567 02:42:36,810 --> 02:42:41,250 country in the UK, a case in Ecuador and in France as well. 2568 02:42:41,250 --> 02:42:45,780 So what we found was a tremendous variety of use of 2569 02:42:45,780 --> 02:42:49,800 different kinds of types of espionage tactics, from dumpster 2570 02:42:49,800 --> 02:42:53,760 diving, to hiring investigators to pose as journalists or 2571 02:42:53,760 --> 02:42:57,690 volunteers to electronic espionage information warfare, 2572 02:42:57,990 --> 02:43:04,530 Information Operations, hacking, electronic surveillance. And so 2573 02:43:04,830 --> 02:43:10,410 this appears to be a growing phenomenon, both here in the 2574 02:43:10,410 --> 02:43:14,100 United States and maybe in other parts of the world as well. But 2575 02:43:14,310 --> 02:43:18,120 our report is, is an effort to document something that it's 2576 02:43:18,120 --> 02:43:20,760 very hard to know very much about. We aggregated 30 2577 02:43:20,760 --> 02:43:24,120 different cases of corporate espionage, to try to talk about 2578 02:43:24,120 --> 02:43:27,360 them, but really each of the cases we have very fragmentary 2579 02:43:27,360 --> 02:43:31,590 information and so it's hard to say what how we have what we 2580 02:43:31,590 --> 02:43:33,840 have as a part of the iceberg whether it's the tip of the 2581 02:43:33,840 --> 02:43:36,930 iceberg or the tippy tip of the iceberg. We don't really know 2582 02:43:36,930 --> 02:43:39,360 sorry, let's go to 2000. We know that really, 2583 02:43:39,390 --> 02:43:40,260 Gary, You're boring 2584 02:43:40,260 --> 02:43:43,710 me peace files a federal lawsuit against Dow Chemical and SASL 2585 02:43:43,710 --> 02:43:46,590 North America for engaging in corporate espionage. The lawsuit 2586 02:43:46,590 --> 02:43:50,460 allege corporate spies stole 1000s of confidential documents 2587 02:43:50,460 --> 02:43:53,220 from Greenpeace including campaign plans, employee 2588 02:43:53,220 --> 02:43:56,550 records, phone records, donor and media less. Democracy Now 2589 02:43:56,550 --> 02:43:58,800 spoke to Charlie Cray, the senior researcher with 2590 02:43:58,800 --> 02:44:01,560 Greenpeace USA at the time he explained what happened. 2591 02:44:02,190 --> 02:44:05,610 TBI, the defunct private investigation firm hired 2592 02:44:05,610 --> 02:44:10,590 subcontractors including off duty police officers who went 2593 02:44:10,590 --> 02:44:15,720 through Greenpeace's trash to find useful documents on a 2594 02:44:15,720 --> 02:44:20,280 regular basis over two years. They did this almost twice a 2595 02:44:20,280 --> 02:44:27,210 week. On average. They also use subcontractors who had 2596 02:44:28,290 --> 02:44:31,320 colleagues who attempted to infiltrate Greenpeace as 2597 02:44:31,320 --> 02:44:36,930 volunteers they cased the Greenpeace office looking for we 2598 02:44:36,930 --> 02:44:39,750 don't know what but probably doing advanced scouting for 2599 02:44:39,750 --> 02:44:43,380 people who would then intrude upon the property. We found a 2600 02:44:43,380 --> 02:44:48,270 list of door codes we found a folder that said wiretap info, 2601 02:44:48,540 --> 02:44:52,800 which was empty. You know what's irritating again about this John 2602 02:44:52,800 --> 02:44:56,730 The Centre for corporate policy as to according to their 2603 02:44:56,730 --> 02:44:59,970 website, nonprofit, nonpartisan public interest. Org 2604 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,750 monetisation nowhere to be found with their nonprofit 2605 02:45:04,770 --> 02:45:09,060 information. There's no Nam there's no for 990 information. 2606 02:45:09,090 --> 02:45:13,320 There's no nothing there's no entry. Yeah, that's annoying. 2607 02:45:13,439 --> 02:45:17,009 Well, you're sure that's not essential information.org And 2608 02:45:17,009 --> 02:45:20,879 there's just as you know, they would be under that. Well, then 2609 02:45:20,879 --> 02:45:24,299 essential information.org has been around way too long to not 2610 02:45:24,299 --> 02:45:25,349 have a 990 2611 02:45:26,159 --> 02:45:30,479 Oh, essential information. Well, then they're, they're being 2612 02:45:30,479 --> 02:45:33,419 sketchy at best. Well listen to more of this guy. And I'll look 2613 02:45:33,419 --> 02:45:37,019 this up. We know this company has subcontracted with a company 2614 02:45:37,019 --> 02:45:42,299 called Netsafe, which is a company that was made of former 2615 02:45:42,449 --> 02:45:45,899 NSA officials skilled and computer hacking and things like 2616 02:45:45,899 --> 02:45:49,829 that. So we really don't know the full extent of this. But 2617 02:45:49,829 --> 02:45:54,479 what we've seen is incredibly shocking. And our goal is to 2618 02:45:54,479 --> 02:45:58,889 bring this out into the light of day and to stop it if it's still 2619 02:45:58,889 --> 02:45:59,609 going on. Yeah, it 2620 02:45:59,609 --> 02:46:02,039 was Charlie Cray, senior researcher with Greenpeace, USA, 2621 02:46:02,039 --> 02:46:04,529 Gary Ruskin, if you could respond to that, and then go on 2622 02:46:04,529 --> 02:46:07,769 to talk about Walmart and up against the wall. The non 2623 02:46:07,769 --> 02:46:09,329 nonprofit organisation is good 2624 02:46:09,329 --> 02:46:11,549 enough, you can kill it. I'm getting tired of it. 2625 02:46:13,529 --> 02:46:17,339 Essentially, the way that apparently this is, you know, I 2626 02:46:17,339 --> 02:46:20,369 guess the NSA trains people in when they quit the NSA to go off 2627 02:46:20,369 --> 02:46:23,729 becomes country. This is all that's going on. It's 2628 02:46:23,730 --> 02:46:27,030 Moonlighting, it's like, like, hey, it's five o'clock. I'm 2629 02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:28,050 going home. What are you doing? 2630 02:46:28,109 --> 02:46:31,019 She's probably pretty cool moonlighting job. Yeah, come 2631 02:46:31,019 --> 02:46:35,189 back to the office and look stuff up. Yeah. But a lot of 2632 02:46:35,189 --> 02:46:35,999 police do. 2633 02:46:36,059 --> 02:46:43,469 Yeah, absolutely. It's, well, of course, we had the news come out 2634 02:46:43,469 --> 02:46:49,229 that the NSA apparently collected information on porn 2635 02:46:49,559 --> 02:46:51,149 site activity. 2636 02:46:51,419 --> 02:46:53,879 Oh, yeah. You go to a porn site. You're now in the yard. Now in 2637 02:46:53,879 --> 02:46:55,049 the box. Here's 2638 02:46:55,049 --> 02:47:03,719 what's interesting. The NSA is in this regard using what would 2639 02:47:03,719 --> 02:47:10,739 the term be using behavioural patterns to discredit them is no 2640 02:47:10,739 --> 02:47:13,169 different than what Glenn Greenwald does on a regular 2641 02:47:13,169 --> 02:47:20,249 basis to politicians that Republicans specifically he 2642 02:47:20,249 --> 02:47:26,429 attorney write a book even about how to face the Republican Party 2643 02:47:26,429 --> 02:47:30,119 is because the Republicans talk a big game, but they have gay 2644 02:47:30,119 --> 02:47:36,539 sex and man whores and all kinds of crazy shit. It's the same. 2645 02:47:36,569 --> 02:47:37,889 It's the same idea. 2646 02:47:37,950 --> 02:47:41,520 Yes, where there's an attraction. Right? But so for 2647 02:47:41,520 --> 02:47:41,730 him 2648 02:47:41,730 --> 02:47:44,250 to publish this as you know, like, Oh, look at it, you know, 2649 02:47:44,250 --> 02:47:45,720 it's like you do the same thing? 2650 02:47:46,200 --> 02:47:49,350 Yeah, no, that's the joke of it. The whole thing is a big farce. 2651 02:47:50,219 --> 02:47:54,089 And I'm getting really tired of the drips and drabs, you know, 2652 02:47:54,089 --> 02:47:57,599 the WikiLeaks is even getting in Greenwald's face a little bit 2653 02:47:57,599 --> 02:48:04,049 about how, if I see one more report that says Edward Snowden, 2654 02:48:04,049 --> 02:48:07,859 who released the documents in the wild to the world, I'm gonna 2655 02:48:07,859 --> 02:48:11,759 puke. And these are like big mainstream publications that 2656 02:48:11,759 --> 02:48:15,269 keep repeating this farce over and over again. 2657 02:48:15,479 --> 02:48:19,829 So the New York Times got a copy of this whole pile, just Sure. 2658 02:48:19,829 --> 02:48:22,139 Remember, when the Guardian was going to hit it, had the guys 2659 02:48:22,139 --> 02:48:25,919 come in and bust up the hard disks? Yep. They sent a copy of 2660 02:48:25,919 --> 02:48:28,559 The New York Times for safekeeping, which is what 2661 02:48:28,589 --> 02:48:31,409 dunkel Don should do, by the way, not to the New York Times. 2662 02:48:32,219 --> 02:48:38,969 And so, my friend Markoff was in New York when the thing was 2663 02:48:38,999 --> 02:48:42,389 still a secret. I think most people know it's there now. And 2664 02:48:42,389 --> 02:48:45,839 he was allowed to, apparently everybody would just like a line 2665 02:48:45,839 --> 02:48:47,999 of reporters that all wanted to look at this thing. 2666 02:48:48,299 --> 02:48:53,609 So the women this is the 50,000 or maybe 200,000. Yeah, really? 2667 02:48:53,849 --> 02:48:55,589 Yeah. Okay, 2668 02:48:55,950 --> 02:49:01,380 so he says one of the reasons this stuff may be leaking out 2669 02:49:01,380 --> 02:49:05,760 shortly, it's actually a huge document, a big giant database 2670 02:49:05,970 --> 02:49:10,800 with a really crappy search engine. Yeah. Which apparently 2671 02:49:10,800 --> 02:49:13,560 is the only thing you can use to access it because it's all this 2672 02:49:13,560 --> 02:49:14,550 you know, kind of like a 2673 02:49:14,550 --> 02:49:17,280 binary file or something that's like a big binary a bunch of 2674 02:49:17,280 --> 02:49:17,820 crap. 2675 02:49:18,210 --> 02:49:22,740 So it's just like all hash code shit. So yeah, he says It took 2676 02:49:22,740 --> 02:49:26,130 him about he was he got in he got his moment where he could 2677 02:49:26,130 --> 02:49:29,400 look something just do some fool around, look at the look at the 2678 02:49:29,400 --> 02:49:32,550 document. So then, of course, what did i What did you find 2679 02:49:32,550 --> 02:49:36,180 out? I must have had some cool stuff in there. He says it took 2680 02:49:36,180 --> 02:49:41,370 him six hours to find one thing that wasn't even interesting. He 2681 02:49:41,370 --> 02:49:45,540 says he could not find anything. The thing was, is a fiasco. 2682 02:49:46,440 --> 02:49:50,880 Interesting now do you think that this is what maybe that's 2683 02:49:50,880 --> 02:49:54,330 just what the times was given and that that there is 2684 02:49:54,510 --> 02:49:59,970 individual copies available on the in the Berlin cabal of mine 2685 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:04,080 thinking, yeah, he didn't have a theory. But my thing would be 2686 02:50:04,080 --> 02:50:08,490 the following, which is that it's a you get the pile of crap 2687 02:50:08,490 --> 02:50:12,870 with a search engine. And then you are given a series of 2688 02:50:12,930 --> 02:50:16,740 specific codes to type in, which will take you to specific 2689 02:50:16,740 --> 02:50:19,470 documents that you can then ah, 2690 02:50:19,500 --> 02:50:21,510 well, that would make sense because there's so you'd have a 2691 02:50:21,510 --> 02:50:25,350 key. Yeah, there's no way that Glenn Greenwald would let the 2692 02:50:25,350 --> 02:50:28,350 New York Times have that or anybody, because that's how he's 2693 02:50:28,350 --> 02:50:30,600 going to become rich. That's how that's what his movie is going 2694 02:50:30,600 --> 02:50:35,430 to be based on his book. That's why the PIO Pierre Omidyar is 2695 02:50:35,430 --> 02:50:37,770 putting money into it because there's monetization. 2696 02:50:38,190 --> 02:50:42,000 Yeah, my thinking was a document that times had is the document 2697 02:50:42,030 --> 02:50:46,740 with the search engine but no code. So Reuters, which means 2698 02:50:46,740 --> 02:50:49,020 you get it back if the rest of them are destroyed, and you can 2699 02:50:49,020 --> 02:50:51,030 still find your stuff because you had the keys. 2700 02:50:51,930 --> 02:50:55,200 Reuters has this to say British, British and US intelligence 2701 02:50:55,200 --> 02:50:58,680 officials say they are worried about a quote doomsday cache of 2702 02:50:58,680 --> 02:51:01,770 highly classified heavily encrypted material they believe 2703 02:51:01,770 --> 02:51:04,650 former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden has 2704 02:51:04,650 --> 02:51:08,730 stored on a Data Cloud. The cache contains documents joined 2705 02:51:08,730 --> 02:51:11,430 by the NSA and other agencies includes names of US and allied 2706 02:51:11,430 --> 02:51:14,910 intelligence personnel. Seven current and former US officials 2707 02:51:14,910 --> 02:51:18,480 and other sources briefed on the matter said, Of course, no, 2708 02:51:18,510 --> 02:51:21,120 these days no have anyone no one talks publicly, there's it's 2709 02:51:21,120 --> 02:51:24,780 always sources, the data is protected with sophisticated 2710 02:51:24,780 --> 02:51:27,570 encryption and multiple passwords are needed to open it 2711 02:51:27,630 --> 02:51:30,960 say two of the sources who like the other spoke on condition of 2712 02:51:30,960 --> 02:51:34,980 anonymity, anonymity to discuss intelligence matters, the 2713 02:51:34,980 --> 02:51:37,080 passwords are in the possession of at least three different 2714 02:51:37,080 --> 02:51:41,250 people and are valid for only a brief time window each day. A 2715 02:51:41,250 --> 02:51:44,970 lot of information here for something that is, you know, 2716 02:51:44,970 --> 02:51:46,350 that no one can talk about? 2717 02:51:48,450 --> 02:51:51,000 Yeah, but it does give you some indication of the way it's, it's 2718 02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:55,170 established is it this is like, you have all this stuff, but 2719 02:51:57,060 --> 02:52:01,200 it's like, is this useless? I mean, it's a just generally 2720 02:52:01,200 --> 02:52:05,100 useless but you with your keys or codes I can get to the 2721 02:52:05,100 --> 02:52:08,160 specific places probably can make it useful. This is like, 2722 02:52:08,610 --> 02:52:11,190 you know, taking an encrypted hard disk and just taking the 2723 02:52:11,190 --> 02:52:12,270 data off as you can, 2724 02:52:12,540 --> 02:52:15,600 is useless. But you know, I don't like this I, 2725 02:52:15,719 --> 02:52:18,059 I really don't either. The whole thing is fishy. It's 2726 02:52:18,090 --> 02:52:21,600 well, it's not just fishy, it's wrong. There's information that 2727 02:52:21,630 --> 02:52:28,170 that is available, and as being kept. Because what I'm not smart 2728 02:52:28,170 --> 02:52:31,560 enough to read through a document, I beg to differ. I 2729 02:52:31,560 --> 02:52:34,650 think I am smart enough to dig to dig through something and 2730 02:52:34,650 --> 02:52:38,550 to know you can only look at slide 57 Yeah, you 2731 02:52:38,549 --> 02:52:43,169 know so Who died and made these guys God that they can only that 2732 02:52:43,169 --> 02:52:44,999 they're the only and why and by the way, why isn't the 2733 02:52:44,999 --> 02:52:49,469 government killing them? That's obvious. It's all one game. 2734 02:52:49,469 --> 02:52:53,879 They're all on the same team. If Glenn Greenwald really mean we 2735 02:52:53,879 --> 02:52:58,379 kill people for nothing. They we drunk people because they have a 2736 02:52:58,379 --> 02:53:03,569 signature of a terrorist. And we're not going to kill Glenn 2737 02:53:03,569 --> 02:53:08,009 Greenwald, who holds the secret to all of our national security, 2738 02:53:08,519 --> 02:53:09,389 please. 2739 02:53:10,740 --> 02:53:12,750 Yeah, no, it doesn't make any sense at all. 2740 02:53:13,229 --> 02:53:15,839 His book was great American hypocrites, by the way, toppling 2741 02:53:15,839 --> 02:53:18,869 the big myths of Republican politics, where he does the same 2742 02:53:18,869 --> 02:53:21,449 as what the NSA was doing purportedly was doing with the 2743 02:53:21,449 --> 02:53:25,019 terrorist. Yeah, yeah. So I would like to know if my porn is 2744 02:53:25,019 --> 02:53:28,499 being my porn habits are being tracked. Sure. And I'd like 2745 02:53:28,499 --> 02:53:31,169 that. Yeah. Okay. It's easy to say yes. But I don't want Glenn 2746 02:53:31,169 --> 02:53:34,409 Greenwald to appear on the door or anyone to be in charge of it. 2747 02:53:34,829 --> 02:53:37,019 And anyone who joins that organisation as a true 2748 02:53:37,019 --> 02:53:40,979 journalist should be ashamed of themselves. But you're all 2749 02:53:41,009 --> 02:53:44,339 whacking off in your circle jerk about how cool it is, and how 2750 02:53:44,339 --> 02:53:46,889 much money you're gonna make you sad money 2751 02:53:46,890 --> 02:53:50,310 from all mudhar sad and pathetic article and OMA jar which by the 2752 02:53:50,310 --> 02:53:53,790 way, which I read after the last show and put a link to it in the 2753 02:53:53,790 --> 02:53:56,880 last newsletters letter. Yeah, is great. Here's another one 2754 02:53:56,880 --> 02:53:59,610 because these guys Winston is by the way, they run that article 2755 02:53:59,610 --> 02:54:01,860 and Omidyar the next thing you know, that thing is shuttered. 2756 02:54:02,010 --> 02:54:02,670 You think that's 2757 02:54:03,420 --> 02:54:08,520 so but now they're a part of get this panto daily which is insane 2758 02:54:08,520 --> 02:54:11,370 because Pando daily to me is a big joke, but now they're 2759 02:54:11,370 --> 02:54:14,550 public, the same people published another article. 2760 02:54:17,820 --> 02:54:23,130 keeping secrets on a second, which is really quite damning. 2761 02:54:24,090 --> 02:54:28,560 Give you the title, it's the same guy from over to NSFW Corp. 2762 02:54:28,740 --> 02:54:32,760 Mark aims keeping secrets appear on me Dr. Glenn Greenwald and 2763 02:54:32,760 --> 02:54:36,990 the private privatisation of Snowdens leaks is a good 2764 02:54:36,990 --> 02:54:41,970 article. Definitely something and it kind of goes into you 2765 02:54:41,970 --> 02:54:46,890 know, how other whistleblowers have really let all the 2766 02:54:46,890 --> 02:54:50,820 documents out, you know, they really Daniel Ellsberg, you 2767 02:54:50,820 --> 02:54:55,200 know, the documents were available. And this is just not 2768 02:54:55,200 --> 02:54:58,680 the case. And everything that comes out is one page. It's 2769 02:54:58,680 --> 02:55:04,170 redacted. I mean come on. When will people see this for what it 2770 02:55:04,170 --> 02:55:07,920 is? Maybe never whatever will see it and whatever comes out 2771 02:55:07,920 --> 02:55:10,140 we'll continue to continue to bitch 2772 02:55:10,140 --> 02:55:13,800 and moan that apparently has to be an amaz show 2773 02:55:14,520 --> 02:55:17,670 bitch and moan everybody know but I like doing it I like I 2774 02:55:17,670 --> 02:55:23,310 like going through documents I mean no one on mainstream news 2775 02:55:23,310 --> 02:55:26,790 media will tell you that there's inconclusive evidence on the 2776 02:55:26,790 --> 02:55:31,050 Sandy Hook ballistics report completely inconclusive on all 2777 02:55:31,050 --> 02:55:31,980 ballistics. 2778 02:55:32,309 --> 02:55:38,249 Yeah, that's unbelievable that low so one another thing that 2779 02:55:38,249 --> 02:55:42,959 got my attention I want to get it out of the way is the Chinese 2780 02:55:42,989 --> 02:55:45,569 came out with it. You see or hear this story about the 2781 02:55:45,569 --> 02:55:49,169 Chinese extending their rights to defend their territory, 2782 02:55:49,169 --> 02:55:51,659 pastels. Stupid islands. Yeah, they 2783 02:55:51,660 --> 02:55:55,620 just they drew a line on Google Maps and said, yeah, don't cross 2784 02:55:55,620 --> 02:55:57,300 it. And then we flew across it. 2785 02:55:57,660 --> 02:56:00,900 Yeah, but we what cracks me up it really listen to this report. 2786 02:56:00,900 --> 02:56:05,340 I think this was on van cat. And this is we flew to be 50 twos. I 2787 02:56:05,340 --> 02:56:07,290 didn't even know we flow the fluids anymore. But we had a 2788 02:56:07,290 --> 02:56:10,530 couple of over the area we're supposed to check in. And I did 2789 02:56:10,530 --> 02:56:13,500 decided not to just to see what would happen. And there's a 2790 02:56:13,500 --> 02:56:15,300 little ironic twist of this. 2791 02:56:15,540 --> 02:56:19,380 This concerns to Beijing. The US Vice President will confront 2792 02:56:19,380 --> 02:56:22,500 Chinese leaders next week about their decision to expand the 2793 02:56:22,500 --> 02:56:25,950 country's air defence zone to include two disputed islands in 2794 02:56:25,950 --> 02:56:27,810 the East China Sea. The visit 2795 02:56:27,810 --> 02:56:31,350 to China creates an opportunity to convey our concerns directly 2796 02:56:31,590 --> 02:56:34,890 or to seek clarity regarding the Chinese intentions in making 2797 02:56:34,890 --> 02:56:36,630 this move. At this time, 2798 02:56:36,930 --> 02:56:40,020 the so called Senkaku Islands are controlled by Japan but are 2799 02:56:40,020 --> 02:56:43,950 also claimed by China and Taiwan. Under China's new rules, 2800 02:56:43,950 --> 02:56:46,680 aircraft have to provide a flight plan when passing through 2801 02:56:46,680 --> 02:56:50,550 the zone or face defensive measures. The US says it still 2802 02:56:50,550 --> 02:56:54,420 regards the area's international airspace, and as if to prove the 2803 02:56:54,420 --> 02:56:58,740 points. On Tuesday it flew to B 52 bombers into the zone without 2804 02:56:58,740 --> 02:57:02,580 alerting the Chinese and accuses Beijing of trying to provoke an 2805 02:57:02,580 --> 02:57:05,880 escalation and regional tensions. Okay, what's 2806 02:57:05,880 --> 02:57:10,770 your take cues is the Chinese of trying to provoke and we'd like 2807 02:57:10,770 --> 02:57:13,440 to be 50 two's over these islands. 2808 02:57:13,469 --> 02:57:16,349 To be fair, the flight was scheduled many many weeks ago. 2809 02:57:16,349 --> 02:57:20,399 So this is a pre scheduled flight. You don't think it would 2810 02:57:20,399 --> 02:57:23,009 have anything to do with the fact that we have the world's 2811 02:57:23,009 --> 02:57:27,569 largest aircraft carrier in the sea of China? I mean, come on, 2812 02:57:27,569 --> 02:57:27,929 we're being 2813 02:57:27,930 --> 02:57:30,060 done just saying who's provoking who 2814 02:57:30,059 --> 02:57:34,889 Yeah, we're we're being dicks. Apparently we got our aircraft 2815 02:57:34,889 --> 02:57:38,579 carrier they're helping the Filipinos. Oh, that fell off the 2816 02:57:38,579 --> 02:57:39,239 radar. 2817 02:57:40,049 --> 02:57:44,129 Yeah, well. And then finally, there's this thing going on to 2818 02:57:44,249 --> 02:57:46,919 you know, the Scots have do they're trying to separate 2819 02:57:46,919 --> 02:57:48,749 themselves by the way this is gonna fail. 2820 02:57:49,139 --> 02:57:52,829 But the thinking is, they have a referendum if they want to 2821 02:57:52,829 --> 02:57:56,879 separate from the United Kingdom. And if they do the 2822 02:57:56,879 --> 02:57:59,699 thinking, well, they want to be a separate country. Well, 2823 02:57:59,699 --> 02:58:02,519 company is right, because they have a lot of oil. 2824 02:58:04,290 --> 02:58:05,700 And they want it for themselves. 2825 02:58:06,090 --> 02:58:08,070 The Scottish Government's revealed its blueprint for 2826 02:58:08,070 --> 02:58:11,040 independence from the United Kingdom. Despite pledging to 2827 02:58:11,040 --> 02:58:14,040 forge its own prosperity the documents suggests keeping the 2828 02:58:14,040 --> 02:58:18,090 British pound and the Queen over a referendum to be held next 2829 02:58:18,120 --> 02:58:18,690 September. 2830 02:58:20,070 --> 02:58:24,180 Keeping the Queen you're gonna keep the Queen take that and the 2831 02:58:24,180 --> 02:58:28,770 British pound and take her to take her to Scotland. Canada. 2832 02:58:30,660 --> 02:58:31,950 They also kept the Queen 2833 02:58:32,610 --> 02:58:35,790 Yes, the Canadian still kept it. He goes over about once. 2834 02:58:37,799 --> 02:58:43,139 That's sounds like you. Oh Obama tone thing you've got September. 2835 02:58:45,780 --> 02:58:49,350 Symbolic stone marks the point where Scotland meets England, 2836 02:58:49,890 --> 02:58:52,710 but could it soon become the border between two separate 2837 02:58:52,710 --> 02:58:55,890 states. A new constitution would be written with the queen 2838 02:58:55,890 --> 02:58:59,550 captors, head of states also proposed a new Scottish defence 2839 02:58:59,550 --> 02:59:03,180 force of 15,000. The removal of Trident nuclear weapons 2840 02:59:03,180 --> 02:59:06,000 currently kept from the river Clyde and the new Scottish 2841 02:59:06,000 --> 02:59:10,050 Broadcasting Service in place of the BBC, causing the most 2842 02:59:10,050 --> 02:59:13,980 controversy currency. The document says Scotland would 2843 02:59:13,980 --> 02:59:17,250 keep the pound but London said this won't necessarily be 2844 02:59:17,250 --> 02:59:21,120 possible. UK Prime Minister David Cameron's firmly behind 2845 02:59:21,120 --> 02:59:24,390 the Better Together campaign against Scottish independence. 2846 02:59:24,720 --> 02:59:28,320 Its head MP Alistair Darling blasted the document as a work 2847 02:59:28,320 --> 02:59:29,250 of fiction. 2848 02:59:29,729 --> 02:59:32,849 It's a fantasy to say we can leave the UK but still keep all 2849 02:59:32,849 --> 02:59:36,329 the benefits of UK membership. Instead of a credible and costed 2850 02:59:36,329 --> 02:59:39,239 plan. We have a wish list of political promises. 2851 02:59:39,510 --> 02:59:44,370 According to latest polls, some 38% plan to vote yes, while 47 2852 02:59:44,370 --> 02:59:47,880 would vote no, but they still have 10 months to make up their 2853 02:59:47,880 --> 02:59:48,600 minds. 2854 02:59:49,139 --> 02:59:51,119 Well, it's not gonna I think you're right. It's gonna fail. 2855 02:59:51,629 --> 02:59:59,129 Yes. I'm gonna do that. You know, it can't just say 2856 02:59:59,129 --> 03:00:01,679 something Yeah, we're a little over time here. 2857 03:00:02,129 --> 03:00:03,479 Yeah, I think it's time to kill the show. 2858 03:00:04,740 --> 03:00:08,880 Let's kill some I gotta like shave and get dressed they're 2859 03:00:08,880 --> 03:00:10,140 gonna post produce everything. 2860 03:00:10,170 --> 03:00:13,470 Oh, you got a big dinner tonight that's I have to cook a big 2861 03:00:13,560 --> 03:00:13,830 dinner 2862 03:00:14,010 --> 03:00:17,340 it's actually starting now at two o'clock our time so I was 2863 03:00:17,340 --> 03:00:21,150 like thing is that sort of well I think they also there's a big 2864 03:00:21,150 --> 03:00:24,300 football game and they want to go to the game it's up against 2865 03:00:24,300 --> 03:00:25,380 something or other 2866 03:00:25,500 --> 03:00:28,530 oh yeah Dallas is playing Oakland or something like that. 2867 03:00:28,530 --> 03:00:29,820 Oh, it was playing Um, no, 2868 03:00:29,820 --> 03:00:33,540 no, no is up against whatever it is. We're for go UT. 2869 03:00:34,049 --> 03:00:37,349 There's a college game you're saying? Oh, I think so. Yeah. 2870 03:00:38,489 --> 03:00:40,349 That's weird on Thursday but it happens 2871 03:00:40,379 --> 03:00:42,539 now it's the end look I'm just going for the cowboys and 2872 03:00:42,539 --> 03:00:44,879 trainees that's that's what I've been promised I'm coming to 2873 03:00:44,879 --> 03:00:50,279 collect and I have released a new daily source code. You can 2874 03:00:50,279 --> 03:00:55,319 find that only on BitTorrent Sync go to dsc.curry.com for 2875 03:00:55,319 --> 03:01:00,269 more information as part of my become a Bitcoin millionaire 2876 03:01:00,269 --> 03:01:00,929 before you 2877 03:01:01,020 --> 03:01:06,150 is part of your Mickey being gone. On I'm so bored with MC. 2878 03:01:07,080 --> 03:01:10,140 I'm gonna have to do something else. I'm gonna elite source 2879 03:01:10,140 --> 03:01:10,410 code 2880 03:01:10,950 --> 03:01:15,840 coming to you from FEMA Region six and proud of it in the 2881 03:01:15,840 --> 03:01:16,950 morning. I'm Adam curry. 2882 03:01:17,070 --> 03:01:22,230 And from FEMA Region nine is my not mistaken northern Silicon 2883 03:01:22,230 --> 03:01:23,850 Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll 2884 03:01:23,849 --> 03:01:38,069 be back on Sunday, right here on no agenda. podcast boruch.org/n 2885 03:01:38,099 --> 03:01:38,609 A