1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,190 Special execute anyone at her own will? Adam curry John C. 2 00:00:05,190 --> 00:00:05,700 Dvorak. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Sunday, July 7 2013. Time for your Gitmo nation media 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,760 assassination episode five to eight. 5 00:00:12,299 --> 00:00:15,839 This is no agenda and join 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,200 my star chamber in the Travis heights hideout in Austin Jay 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,660 Haas capital, the drone Star State in the morning, everybody. 8 00:00:21,930 --> 00:00:22,830 I'm Adam curry, 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,940 and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's dark. And there's 10 00:00:26,940 --> 00:00:29,880 crickets out. I'm John C. Dvorak. 11 00:00:30,750 --> 00:00:35,370 Raglan Buzzkill. Did you have like some kind of corporate deal 12 00:00:35,370 --> 00:00:37,680 with the Cricut maker guys who said, what I 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,010 can do if I if I keep saying that the sounds like then people 14 00:00:41,010 --> 00:00:42,240 will believe it a place, 15 00:00:42,540 --> 00:00:47,460 then people? Oh, yeah. That sounds just like crickets. No, 16 00:00:47,460 --> 00:00:49,680 doesn't sound Do it. Do it to make the sound good. We've been 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,750 listening to this for 10 minutes already. Yeah. 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Oh, oh, dear. There's crickets. 19 00:00:57,030 --> 00:00:59,760 What shall we let's stay inside this crickets. 20 00:01:01,860 --> 00:01:05,010 So well, we had a number of incidents over the past few 21 00:01:05,010 --> 00:01:08,850 days, we're hoping they get to hit our six week cycle. One of 22 00:01:08,850 --> 00:01:11,760 them I think had promised but it got screwed up by this airplane 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,790 crash, which we've determined is not part of anything and in 24 00:01:14,910 --> 00:01:18,510 especially when the FBI comes out and says no terrorism here. 25 00:01:18,540 --> 00:01:21,960 Yeah, so we need to backtrack just a little bit. There may be 26 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:26,340 some newer listeners to the program. We were informed quite 27 00:01:26,340 --> 00:01:34,080 a while ago, by people inside of the FBI, that the FBI does a lot 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,490 of these these kind of like honeypot deals where they 29 00:01:38,490 --> 00:01:41,250 infiltrate a group and that goading the guy and like, you 30 00:01:41,250 --> 00:01:44,580 know, they, at no point does he ever have any real explosives? 31 00:01:44,580 --> 00:01:46,890 And then like, yeah, man, hey, you've dialed a cell phone 32 00:01:46,890 --> 00:01:49,560 number, and he will blow it all up. And the reason why they do 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,280 this approximately every six weeks is because that's how they 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,010 maintain their budgets. That's how they grow the organization. 35 00:01:56,250 --> 00:01:59,250 That's what they do, quite frankly. And we don't know if 36 00:01:59,250 --> 00:02:01,890 this is happening in every agency. But we have pretty good 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,490 confirmation affirmation. This is happening with the FBI, and 38 00:02:05,490 --> 00:02:09,360 we've been able to kind of set our clocks by it. And we were, I 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,650 guess, Fourth of July was time for a new one. Is that it? Yeah. 40 00:02:14,250 --> 00:02:21,060 The Fourth of July, July week. I say that the incident in 41 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:25,080 Washington State would qualify, I could say, I wouldn't say 42 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,440 there's a train wreck peculiar train wreck that took place up 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,680 in Canada. But that that didn't seem to be getting any legs. And 44 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,600 then of course, everything was up ended by the 777 crash, which 45 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,010 looks like would have been a gem. 46 00:02:40,590 --> 00:02:42,690 Yeah, but there was You're right. And it was really 47 00:02:42,690 --> 00:02:47,220 interesting to see this happen. And most people who listen to 48 00:02:47,220 --> 00:02:51,450 the show for a while know that I have been flying for. What is it 49 00:02:51,450 --> 00:02:54,570 now John a decade, more than a decade, I've been flying like 12 50 00:02:54,570 --> 00:02:58,290 years, I've been flying helicopters airplanes. And one 51 00:02:58,290 --> 00:02:58,800 of them was that 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,290 long period of time where you were smoking dope all the time 53 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,160 while flying. 54 00:03:02,580 --> 00:03:08,160 And what what is always interesting is to see how the 55 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,400 reporting is done on aviation incidents, because this is 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,100 something I one of the few things I actually know a lot 57 00:03:14,100 --> 00:03:15,660 about. You 58 00:03:15,660 --> 00:03:18,930 know, I just have a couple of clips I want to play before we 59 00:03:18,930 --> 00:03:22,260 get into your analysis. Sure. Because I was watching, I was 60 00:03:22,260 --> 00:03:27,150 watching in the reporting of this from Central China News 61 00:03:27,150 --> 00:03:30,330 Service, because most of the people that were on that plane 62 00:03:30,330 --> 00:03:33,240 were Chinese. In fact, most of the people 63 00:03:33,690 --> 00:03:37,410 can I just ask you something about that. So there were 160 64 00:03:37,410 --> 00:03:41,370 Chinese people on this plane. Yeah, a lot of students are oh, 65 00:03:41,370 --> 00:03:43,920 they're students. I'm like, What are they doing? A lot of them 66 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,650 are students. We'd like Africa. Now. There's just a million 67 00:03:46,650 --> 00:03:49,530 Chinese everywhere. And they're like building pipelines and 68 00:03:50,460 --> 00:03:52,380 blowing in the Caribbean. They have to take a flight out of 69 00:03:52,380 --> 00:03:54,210 Seoul. I don't know if they don't trust their own care I 70 00:03:54,210 --> 00:03:56,940 do now and before you get into your clips, and I think we've 71 00:03:56,940 --> 00:04:01,470 talked about this before, that when you are in, in the 72 00:04:01,470 --> 00:04:04,470 California airspace in particular around San Francisco, 73 00:04:04,950 --> 00:04:08,700 you almost cannot understand what is being said on the radio, 74 00:04:08,910 --> 00:04:12,420 because it's all Asian students, primarily Chinese who are 75 00:04:12,420 --> 00:04:16,260 learning to fly. From zero Sherif rah rah rah rah online. 76 00:04:16,530 --> 00:04:21,840 What? Ferrari rowshare on our line, what you have no idea what 77 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:25,110 they're talking about. It's insane. The airspace above San 78 00:04:25,110 --> 00:04:28,920 Francisco is unintelligible Asian pilots. 79 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,090 Yeah, yeah. It's funny. No, it's 80 00:04:33,090 --> 00:04:35,970 not. It's frightening when you're funny, too. You know? 81 00:04:36,420 --> 00:04:37,800 It's not. That's fun. You're 82 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,760 saying no. So I got a couple of things. One, there was one very 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,340 peculiar report, but let's see what we got. We got Asian 84 00:04:44,340 --> 00:04:49,590 passengers report. I think there's a second one. Weird 85 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:53,880 testimony of crash. Now. I want to start with this one. This is 86 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:59,610 a kid that was on the flight. And he he was talking he was 87 00:04:59,610 --> 00:05:03,120 weird. What he says is odd enough. But then when he says it 88 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,780 was sitting next to a hole in the fuselage of a cop, good, you 89 00:05:06,780 --> 00:05:08,370 don't get to see this on the clip, but I'm gonna tell you 90 00:05:08,370 --> 00:05:12,750 what happened. A cop came rushing over and grabbed him and 91 00:05:12,750 --> 00:05:13,860 hold him off. 92 00:05:15,420 --> 00:05:19,500 While he was doing this, yeah. Well, that's weird. What What's 93 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,470 this was on the Chinese news. Yeah, I was listened to it. 94 00:05:23,790 --> 00:05:28,770 One of the passengers aboard Asiana Airlines flight 12214 95 00:05:28,830 --> 00:05:32,220 spoke to reporters after the crash. It described what 96 00:05:32,220 --> 00:05:36,030 happened when the plane came in to land at San Francisco 97 00:05:36,030 --> 00:05:42,210 International Airport. And went up and down and then and then 98 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,270 it's flipped to something like that. I'm not sure. And then it 99 00:05:45,630 --> 00:05:51,300 hit the ground and then yeah, so and what happened was people 100 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:56,610 injured. Top just totally collapsed on a lot of people. So 101 00:05:56,610 --> 00:05:59,040 a lot of people were injured. Yeah. Okay. Where were you 102 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:04,920 sitting? I was sitting next to like, this big hole. Yeah. 103 00:06:06,750 --> 00:06:11,250 Now I've got one thing that kind of struck me was fuselage. I 104 00:06:11,250 --> 00:06:14,430 guess it was, you know, the slams down into the roof caves 105 00:06:14,430 --> 00:06:14,730 in 106 00:06:15,210 --> 00:06:19,530 it. This is but this is not the this is not abnormal. Yeah, I've 107 00:06:19,530 --> 00:06:26,070 had a hard landing once in my Cessna 182 Besides really 108 00:06:26,070 --> 00:06:30,840 rattling my my teeth, like, like with, like, really, really, and 109 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:35,280 I think I only landed hard from I'll say 10 feet, perhaps but 110 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:39,000 you know, essentially, a hard landing is the the wing the wing 111 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,640 stall, so you have no lift. It's not an engine stall. But the 112 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,790 wing stall, you have no lift and then you you fall to the ground 113 00:06:44,790 --> 00:06:47,430 like a brick. There's no floating no gliding is like 114 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:50,460 boom, you're down it through all my inch, I had to have the 115 00:06:50,460 --> 00:06:54,120 entire instrument panel taken out. Because the altimeter 116 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,290 everything was bent and broken. The airframe, I was lucky that 117 00:06:58,290 --> 00:07:00,510 the airframe didn't have to go back into the jig and this is 118 00:07:00,510 --> 00:07:04,290 just 10 feet with a Cessna. So to have this to have the roof 119 00:07:04,290 --> 00:07:06,630 cave in is not unexpected at all. 120 00:07:07,020 --> 00:07:10,200 Okay, so now we go to Chinese passengers report and there's 121 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,600 just a bunch of miscellaneous stuff here. That's kind of 122 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,570 interesting. This is all for your edification more than 123 00:07:15,570 --> 00:07:17,760 anyone else's. So you when you give you a report, you can take 124 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:18,810 this to account. Okay, 125 00:07:19,050 --> 00:07:22,650 thank you very much. Indeed. Our correspondent Rebecca thering. 126 00:07:22,890 --> 00:07:26,970 At San Francisco International Airport. Some eyewitnesses say 127 00:07:26,970 --> 00:07:30,300 to playing appeared to lose control as it landed and others 128 00:07:30,300 --> 00:07:33,090 say the tail appeared to hit ground. Okay. 129 00:07:33,450 --> 00:07:38,700 So what's this is this is kind of fun to to analyze. It's 130 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:41,820 probably it was exactly the opposite. But the way this is 131 00:07:41,820 --> 00:07:44,580 reported, it sounds like they were coming in wildly out of 132 00:07:44,580 --> 00:07:47,670 control going from left to right. And then oh, then the 133 00:07:47,670 --> 00:07:51,210 tail fell off. Whereas it's probably exactly the opposite 134 00:07:51,210 --> 00:07:54,540 where they came in nice and smooth. The tail hits the 135 00:07:54,540 --> 00:07:58,170 seawall. And then of course, when you know when you have no 136 00:07:58,170 --> 00:08:01,170 tail and your landing gear is collapse, and you're essentially 137 00:08:01,890 --> 00:08:04,470 just rushing down whatever it 138 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:07,470 was a guy that follows this has I think it kind of an 139 00:08:07,470 --> 00:08:09,240 explanation for it saw that land. 140 00:08:09,450 --> 00:08:12,960 Well, yeah, people who say that plane flipped over and did 141 00:08:12,990 --> 00:08:16,470 triple somersaults. that's out there. 142 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:21,330 But I saw was as it was coming into land at the last minute, 143 00:08:21,510 --> 00:08:24,780 you could see the front end pop up, and then slammed out. 144 00:08:24,990 --> 00:08:29,190 It was way too low. Way too soon. It just the wheels caught 145 00:08:29,190 --> 00:08:32,610 and the tail of the plane caught the fork onto the runway, and 146 00:08:32,610 --> 00:08:34,770 then it pancaked on the runway. 147 00:08:37,230 --> 00:08:41,850 Chinese passenger aboard Asiana Airlines flight 214 has 148 00:08:41,850 --> 00:08:46,080 described his experience at the moment the plane caught fire 149 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:49,920 Sridhar describes the crash on the social network site Weibo 150 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,550 does China's version of Twitter. It says he was sitting at one 151 00:08:53,550 --> 00:08:57,720 end of the plane and the plane seemed to lose altitude very 152 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,590 quickly on landing. As he looked through the window of the plane, 153 00:09:01,620 --> 00:09:06,540 it seemed to be level with seawall. The plane seemed to dip 154 00:09:06,540 --> 00:09:10,440 suddenly and pull up abruptly afterwards, he heard a loud 155 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,890 explosion and could smell burning and see flames. Now 156 00:09:13,890 --> 00:09:18,240 another entry on Weibo it says during the half an hour it took 157 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,470 between landing to evacuation. The passengers and rescuers all 158 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:26,040 remained very calm. There was no shouting and passengers 159 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:32,220 evacuated in an orderly fashion. Their response to the crash of 160 00:09:32,220 --> 00:09:37,020 the Asiana Airlines flight in San Francisco CCTV has launched 161 00:09:37,020 --> 00:09:39,960 an update service via social networking platforms good 162 00:09:40,020 --> 00:09:41,160 yeah, that shouldn't be 163 00:09:41,250 --> 00:09:45,930 okay. So let me let me give you an analysis. What you're hearing 164 00:09:45,930 --> 00:09:49,740 here is pretty useless. It's interesting that's coming from 165 00:09:49,740 --> 00:09:53,550 the Chinese television and and from you know, from Chinese 166 00:09:53,550 --> 00:09:57,090 Twitter, but none of this you know, when people say I've read 167 00:09:57,090 --> 00:10:00,540 everything from it was coming in too low, way too fast where All 168 00:10:00,540 --> 00:10:03,720 data shows exactly the opposite that it was, if anything, it was 169 00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:07,920 the aircraft was going to slow. But for me, the fun thing was to 170 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,840 immediately and you know, and I think we can all agree that I am 171 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,260 always looking for the story behind the story he's looking 172 00:10:16,260 --> 00:10:20,160 for. And we've done lots of aviation analysis where we think 173 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,460 there has been a lot of fishing is going on or incomplete 174 00:10:23,460 --> 00:10:27,270 answers or something may even be covered up. We've talked about 175 00:10:27,270 --> 00:10:30,240 this many different incidents in the past six years. This one 176 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,560 though, the fact that Sheryl Sandberg was switched flights to 177 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:39,690 get her to get miles on United, that means nothing. It was not a 178 00:10:39,690 --> 00:10:42,600 message to Facebook. I don't think they were trying to kill 179 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,770 her. And that the guy from Samsung was on the plane. And 180 00:10:46,830 --> 00:10:47,370 this was 181 00:10:47,370 --> 00:10:50,100 random on any one of these slicers I'd love nameless 182 00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:53,400 people. Yeah, of course, of course. But at the Sandberg 183 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,100 thing I'm sketchy about it sounds like you know, it 184 00:10:56,100 --> 00:10:59,460 sounds it sounds like she's a horn wants to promote her book 185 00:10:59,460 --> 00:11:00,720 is what it sounds like to me. 186 00:11:00,750 --> 00:11:03,180 That's what it sounds like to me, too. I mean, why would if I 187 00:11:03,180 --> 00:11:08,190 was transferred flights and I do it all commonly. And then the 188 00:11:08,460 --> 00:11:11,790 plane crashed. I'm not gonna go out. Oh, geez, I go to bed on 189 00:11:11,790 --> 00:11:14,400 that plane. It's just like, you know, I'm on another plane. 190 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:18,390 No, you wouldn't you probably would have had a book out. Yes. 191 00:11:19,140 --> 00:11:21,720 I'll take it back. Publicity horror is what I meant to say 192 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,170 not a horror publicity whore. Yeah, cuz because that's what 193 00:11:25,170 --> 00:11:26,070 I'm seeing. I'm seeing 194 00:11:26,099 --> 00:11:29,489 I wouldn't do it unless I had a book to sell right. But but 195 00:11:29,489 --> 00:11:32,579 let's go this last one and I hate to bring the bell out on 196 00:11:32,579 --> 00:11:35,159 this one. But this just look correspond a cute little British 197 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:39,449 girl who looks frightened. And but she's, she's cute. Very 198 00:11:39,449 --> 00:11:43,199 pretty on again to Chinese new servers. I put CNN on here. And 199 00:11:43,199 --> 00:11:48,959 I call her the M girl because she has this habit of saying I'm 200 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,119 not just a which is 201 00:11:51,180 --> 00:11:54,330 uncommon amongst she's like a Hummer. She's a she's a kind of 202 00:11:54,330 --> 00:11:55,830 like a horror, but she doesn't really 203 00:11:55,860 --> 00:11:59,940 she doesn't come off as one but her um, scan to make up for and 204 00:11:59,940 --> 00:12:02,100 unfortunately, I have to ring the bell as we play this. Okay, 205 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:02,250 no, 206 00:12:02,250 --> 00:12:03,720 that's all right. We always appreciate that. 207 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:10,170 Some have gone to nearby cities to wait it out. But as I say, 208 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,010 Tomorrow morning is when we will have an update on the assessment 209 00:12:14,010 --> 00:12:18,600 of that team. Terrorism has been ruled out by the FBI, which is 210 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,900 an important thing to add. Because after 911 questions are 211 00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:24,900 immediately raised as to whether or not there's something to 212 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:27,930 terrorism, we do not believe that to be the case. And various 213 00:12:27,930 --> 00:12:31,920 theories are being put forward at this stage of absolutely only 214 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,490 speculation. But some people are wondering if there was a power 215 00:12:35,490 --> 00:12:38,790 outage on the plane. Other people wondering if the fact 216 00:12:38,790 --> 00:12:43,110 that the runway was lengthened in recent weeks, impacted on the 217 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:46,170 pilots approach. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Was 218 00:12:46,170 --> 00:12:47,280 she a passenger? 219 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:48,960 No, no, she's a reporter. 220 00:12:48,990 --> 00:12:52,080 Oh, okay. Thank you. Oh, my Wait a minute. What does she she's 221 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,500 and she's just talking out of her anus. This is This is funny. 222 00:12:55,530 --> 00:12:56,040 I'm a 223 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,940 survivor of that. Also a piece of technology a device which 224 00:12:59,940 --> 00:13:04,470 helps pilots to judge distances and height as they come into a 225 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:04,920 piece of 226 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,880 technology that helps pilots to measure distance and height. 227 00:13:09,030 --> 00:13:12,600 It's been around since World War Two, young lady, this piece of 228 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,680 technology has supposedly been out of action for a few days out 229 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:21,390 of action for a few days. Oh, again, questions, your best 230 00:13:21,390 --> 00:13:27,150 clip. Beautiful weather. It was a clear blue sky this morning, 231 00:13:27,150 --> 00:13:31,980 so I just want to let the extra investigators do their job but 232 00:13:31,980 --> 00:13:34,770 certainly asked about how this could have happened. 233 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,590 All right. All right. Thank you. This was a good clip because 234 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:41,670 this is exactly what pisses me off so much. And and any one of 235 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:44,880 you listening to this podcast will know something. You're an 236 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,750 expert in something. It may be gardening, it may be bicycle 237 00:13:48,750 --> 00:13:52,680 shop repair, it may be trading stocks and bonds. I don't know 238 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:54,120 what it is. It's probably 239 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:00,270 one of those guys, give us a give us some tips. stocks. You 240 00:14:00,270 --> 00:14:02,910 know, you may be working I don't think you need to justify your 241 00:14:02,910 --> 00:14:04,110 position I think we should get 242 00:14:04,110 --> 00:14:06,540 no I'm not justifying the position. Um, I just want to 243 00:14:06,540 --> 00:14:10,920 remind people, Hey, give me a break here is that when you see 244 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,110 something in the news that you actually knows something about 245 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:16,200 and it's completely wrong. You must assume everything else in 246 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,560 the news is wrong. That's the point I'm making. Oh, 247 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,820 yeah, you did that you tend to do that I think which means we 248 00:14:23,820 --> 00:14:26,460 make these mistakes we say some boneheaded stuff once a while 249 00:14:26,460 --> 00:14:30,690 but we usually make up for it. Yeah. Yeah. In a follow up. 250 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:35,250 Here's what happened. First of all, this is great because only 251 00:14:35,250 --> 00:14:37,740 two people died. Why am I getting the bell rung at me? I 252 00:14:37,740 --> 00:14:43,170 said great. Okay, okay. Every single time you say so I'll hit 253 00:14:43,170 --> 00:14:46,860 you with that. I wish you would. We have the show would be too 254 00:14:46,860 --> 00:14:53,670 long. This is a guy named made me self conscious. This is this 255 00:14:53,670 --> 00:14:56,670 is an interesting accident because we have two pilots who 256 00:14:56,670 --> 00:15:00,330 are alive. Very low death count. Everyone got off the bus. laying 257 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:05,010 quickly and of course the two victims I believe that they were 258 00:15:05,010 --> 00:15:07,770 probably ripped out of the plane when the tale came yes 259 00:15:07,770 --> 00:15:11,970 actually one report by the Chinese let me get to my 260 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,570 analysis Mr. Cliff said that the two guys were throw it to women 261 00:15:15,570 --> 00:15:17,670 thrown out yeah, now that sounds like they were 262 00:15:17,670 --> 00:15:23,700 ripped out. Which sucks. Though didn't um the ILS the instrument 263 00:15:23,700 --> 00:15:27,930 landing system on this particular runway was is out of 264 00:15:27,930 --> 00:15:31,080 service until August this was mentioned in the no Tam, the 265 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,490 notice to Airmen, nothing unusual about that had they 266 00:15:35,490 --> 00:15:38,070 needed to do an instrument landing they could have taken 267 00:15:38,070 --> 00:15:43,710 runway one nine, not a problem that was fully in service. When 268 00:15:43,710 --> 00:15:47,040 you do a visual approach, and most of in San Francisco, most 269 00:15:47,190 --> 00:15:50,940 of these landings are visual approaches mainly because of the 270 00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:55,380 weather. It's also a beautiful, it's almost straight in all the 271 00:15:55,380 --> 00:15:59,430 way and it's nice coming over the water. And then when then 272 00:15:59,430 --> 00:16:04,890 you're down. It's a huge, huge long runway. You also have your 273 00:16:04,890 --> 00:16:08,100 Pap eye lights, Pappy lights, or you might hear a lot of 274 00:16:08,610 --> 00:16:12,780 boneheads on the news talking about Poppy lights or whatever, 275 00:16:12,780 --> 00:16:17,130 they have no idea what they're talking about P API and this is 276 00:16:17,370 --> 00:16:20,790 their the red and white lights position so that you can find 277 00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:25,710 the exact right glide path. And if you're too low, then you have 278 00:16:25,710 --> 00:16:28,560 four red, if you're too high, you get four whites. And if 279 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,020 you're exactly on the glide path, you have two red lights 280 00:16:31,020 --> 00:16:34,230 and two white lights. Now, these lights could have been tampered 281 00:16:34,230 --> 00:16:37,260 with, that's entirely possible. But that's pretty much how you 282 00:16:37,260 --> 00:16:42,540 come in. But also, if you know how to drive a car, you kind of 283 00:16:42,570 --> 00:16:46,440 get a feel after 10,000 hours of flying, where are you going to 284 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,620 put this airplane down, it's this is not like some big 285 00:16:49,620 --> 00:16:53,190 magical mystical thing, you do have a feel for the plane unless 286 00:16:53,190 --> 00:16:55,680 you don't know what you're doing. Or maybe you haven't 287 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,860 practiced in years and just letting the plane auto land. And 288 00:16:58,860 --> 00:17:01,890 these guys came in too low. And from the data we have, which is 289 00:17:01,890 --> 00:17:07,320 not not necessarily accurate as radar data, we can see that it 290 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,380 appears the plane, the aircraft was going too slow at a certain 291 00:17:10,380 --> 00:17:14,730 point may have stalled, they hit full throttle, then essentially 292 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,080 tried to execute a go around, popped up the nose, which is 293 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,170 over rotation that maybe they weren't even in rotation the 294 00:17:22,170 --> 00:17:26,130 tail hits the seawall. And that's it, the rest of the plane 295 00:17:26,130 --> 00:17:28,710 slams down and that thing is starting to break apart the 296 00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:30,720 minute that happens. And you know, you're still doing 297 00:17:31,170 --> 00:17:34,710 according to the data, we have about 85 miles an hour, so 298 00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:38,190 you're gonna glide on for a bit. And there's really nothing more 299 00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:41,730 or less to it. That doesn't seem to be any, any I'm going to say 300 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:47,970 probably pilot error in unless there was some catastrophic 301 00:17:47,970 --> 00:17:50,910 event that doesn't appear to have happen that cut the 302 00:17:50,910 --> 00:17:55,110 engines, you know, 1000 feet up, but the data we have now just 303 00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:58,770 doesn't show it. So we have two pilots who are alive. We have 304 00:17:58,950 --> 00:18:02,700 blackbox will and by the time you listen to this podcast, 305 00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:07,230 everything may already be be known. But I agree, John, that 306 00:18:07,230 --> 00:18:11,610 the minute the FBI came on when and it's funny how whenever we 307 00:18:11,610 --> 00:18:15,600 have these events, usually speculation of terrorism is 308 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,720 right on the front. Except when it's really not set up in a 309 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,000 really it's an accident. You know what I mean? 310 00:18:21,030 --> 00:18:25,230 Exactly? It's like, was it? Did you guys do anything in that 311 00:18:25,230 --> 00:18:26,280 department? No. 312 00:18:27,870 --> 00:18:33,480 We were clean. No, I'll clear here. Hey, is this CIA ops? No, 313 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,170 no. They call USA Today. They usually they know more than we 314 00:18:37,170 --> 00:18:40,680 do know. Now. We don't know anything. Okay, bring out the 315 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:46,950 guy to say it's not us. So bad day in aviation. That's today. 316 00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:52,260 wrecker is what we call it. Now, it's not to say that because I 317 00:18:52,260 --> 00:18:57,720 did read. Here we go. The White House put out a statement. Soon 318 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,850 after the plane crash in San Francisco, the President was 319 00:18:59,850 --> 00:19:03,120 made aware of the incident by Lisa Monaco Assistant to the 320 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:07,140 President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism. It's not 321 00:19:07,140 --> 00:19:11,430 to say they won't use it. That is always a possibility. Yeah, 322 00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:11,580 he's 323 00:19:11,580 --> 00:19:12,330 gonna be hard. 324 00:19:12,570 --> 00:19:17,010 I think you guys he was very hard to do that now. But but I'm 325 00:19:17,010 --> 00:19:19,650 sure they probably evaluated it. Can we use this? Can we do 326 00:19:19,650 --> 00:19:24,240 anything with this? Oh, well, oh, well, only thing I'll give 327 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:30,210 you my little minor crackpot theory. We've had a huge I think 328 00:19:30,210 --> 00:19:37,020 we had a class X. A solar flare it and at around the same time, 329 00:19:37,020 --> 00:19:39,840 there was another set a triple seven that had an incident. 330 00:19:40,860 --> 00:19:45,420 Where is it? Probable but there was another one there was 331 00:19:45,420 --> 00:19:49,140 another triple seven that had some incident about five minutes 332 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:54,990 apart from the flight to 14, maybe maybe maybe somewhere it 333 00:19:54,990 --> 00:19:59,970 is possible that instruments got jiggered because of some kind of 334 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,150 Solar because we have had some very severe solar weather 335 00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:08,550 events. So it's possible but you know, I don't like that 336 00:20:08,550 --> 00:20:10,080 it's used for the pilot. Yeah, 337 00:20:10,110 --> 00:20:13,470 I'm not very familiar with the triple seven we're kind of steam 338 00:20:13,470 --> 00:20:16,230 gauges they have because all most aircraft that I know of the 339 00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:18,330 other got the computers and everything but they still have 340 00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:22,620 kind of a steam gauge version of an altimeter and that's kind of 341 00:20:22,620 --> 00:20:25,680 what you need, you know your speed and altitude you can you 342 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,370 can do pretty well with those two. And it just seems like they 343 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,470 messed it up and sad, but that's it. 344 00:20:32,580 --> 00:20:36,060 Well, it wasn't a major disaster it was just a disaster. 345 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,290 Yeah, there's no what constitutes a disaster Do you 346 00:20:40,290 --> 00:20:43,050 doesn't have to have a certain body count or no I 347 00:20:43,050 --> 00:20:45,360 don't even think is body counting of building a bridge 348 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:48,240 collapsing and nobody getting killed is a disaster. That's a 349 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,510 crazy galloping Gertie on the Verrazano straits. You know, 350 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:54,450 that bridge, it was swinging back and forth with a car on it. 351 00:20:55,950 --> 00:20:59,880 Though I think the only death was the dog in the car. Remember 352 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,970 that? Yeah. So John Kerry's head. Can we call that a 353 00:21:02,970 --> 00:21:08,490 disaster is that does that character? Did you see him? So 354 00:21:08,580 --> 00:21:12,540 you know, when a revolution is the worst Secretary of State? 355 00:21:12,570 --> 00:21:16,050 Oh, well, and he doesn't even know how to do it right. Now. 356 00:21:16,050 --> 00:21:20,460 All he does is talk but worse. So Egypt is in the midst of some 357 00:21:20,460 --> 00:21:24,600 form of revolution. And he is taking a canoe out to his tender 358 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,200 to get on his yacht. He was on this boat. Did you see these 359 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,670 pictures of him in a canoe? It's hilarious. He's taking. Yeah, 360 00:21:32,670 --> 00:21:35,310 it's a little red canoe. And he's taken the canoe out to the 361 00:21:35,310 --> 00:21:38,280 tender. The tender is kind of the boat that takes you to the 362 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,740 shot to the yacht. And then he's he's got his backpack and his 363 00:21:40,740 --> 00:21:43,080 weekend bag. And he's like, looking at the cameras like, 364 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,640 hey, we do. And he was on his yacht. I mean, the President was 365 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:52,770 in the, you know, in the set B. Yeah. He was in the his city, 366 00:21:52,770 --> 00:21:56,370 his war room, his situation room, looking all concerned and 367 00:21:56,370 --> 00:21:59,040 everybody was there except Kerry. He couldn't even make it 368 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,960 to the meeting. He was on the yacht. That's dumb. That I mean, 369 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,440 that's, that's, you don't you don't you do not aspire to a 370 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,340 political future. If this happens, and you're not in the 371 00:22:11,340 --> 00:22:11,850 room. 372 00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:16,740 Yeah, pretty much that was done, especially with this thing 373 00:22:16,740 --> 00:22:19,470 going. I mean, not only that, but it's the other things going 374 00:22:19,470 --> 00:22:22,560 on. He doesn't have time to be floating around on his yacht 375 00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:24,600 with his top ciders. 376 00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:27,990 I do have a feeling that you're right. This University of 377 00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:31,170 Washington thing. Well, maybe they were going to try and play 378 00:22:31,170 --> 00:22:36,990 this up. And this seems like a total FBI setups. 379 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,460 very sketchy. I have one clip or two clips out actually. Can I 380 00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:45,270 play one? You have one? Is it the same clip? I have? 381 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:47,520 I don't know. I've got one with scary music. 382 00:22:48,750 --> 00:22:51,810 I think I just have a straight news report. Well, I have a news 383 00:22:51,810 --> 00:22:53,460 report. A scary new music and 384 00:22:54,180 --> 00:22:58,470 so this is a news report from Washington from local news, 385 00:22:58,620 --> 00:23:01,860 where they put the scary music in which to me is like oh, this 386 00:23:01,860 --> 00:23:07,110 is the queue. This is gotta be the guy. Now our other big story 387 00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:07,590 of the night. 388 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,010 A stolen stolen guns and Molotov cocktails. And I police have 389 00:23:14,010 --> 00:23:16,410 arrested a suspect but now investigators are trying to 390 00:23:16,410 --> 00:23:19,260 figure out why he was here and what he might have been planning 391 00:23:19,260 --> 00:23:19,800 to do. 392 00:23:20,670 --> 00:23:23,160 Have you ever heard a news report with that music? 393 00:23:23,550 --> 00:23:25,950 This is like a local news rip yes this 394 00:23:25,950 --> 00:23:27,750 is Katie sounds like a package 395 00:23:27,810 --> 00:23:28,710 it well. Thank 396 00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:31,230 you. I'm pretty sure it's a package. But then they do it 397 00:23:31,230 --> 00:23:35,250 with this music this kind of electronica Suspense music 398 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,520 that Madison police custody and so is the cache of weapons and 399 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,890 body armor from the back of the truck cache 400 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,950 a cache of weapons it's like a disaster of weapons. Tonight. 401 00:23:43,950 --> 00:23:46,530 We're getting our first look at that vehicle but police still 402 00:23:46,530 --> 00:23:49,530 aren't sure what the suspect might have been planning come 403 00:23:49,530 --> 00:23:50,070 before us. John 404 00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:54,240 Humbert has the latest developments for us tonight. The 405 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,170 truck wasn't his but police say the weapons were last night 406 00:23:58,170 --> 00:24:01,890 University of Washington police arrested 21 year old Justin 407 00:24:01,890 --> 00:24:05,400 miles Jasper and Nevada resident. They first found him 408 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,000 near U DUB Tuesday sleeping in the truck. Nothing seemed out of 409 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,050 place. There was no need to have any additional contact with the 410 00:24:13,050 --> 00:24:16,470 suspect the subject at that time. So he was released. But 411 00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:19,860 Wednesday morning, everything changed. That blue truck came 412 00:24:19,860 --> 00:24:23,370 back as stolen from Butte, Montana. Police went back on the 413 00:24:23,370 --> 00:24:24,180 hunt. And this 414 00:24:24,180 --> 00:24:28,350 is what I find interesting. So this guy, they talked to him he 415 00:24:28,350 --> 00:24:31,230 was sleeping in the truck and then the truck turns out to be 416 00:24:31,230 --> 00:24:34,290 stolen. They go back or the guy still there. He's still sleeping 417 00:24:34,290 --> 00:24:37,290 because he's such a terrorist. He's hanging around in the same 418 00:24:37,290 --> 00:24:40,290 spot. We have no idea what his intentions are. 419 00:24:40,350 --> 00:24:44,190 Police eventually found Jasper in the truck last night and 420 00:24:44,190 --> 00:24:48,660 uncovered a stolen shotgun, scoped rifle scoped rifle. A 421 00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:51,840 handful of Molotov cocktails and body armor. 422 00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:54,540 Molotov cocktail. 423 00:24:54,570 --> 00:24:57,420 How do you have a handful of Molotov cocktails? 424 00:24:57,780 --> 00:25:01,080 He's got big hands. His hands are the big foam hands got the 425 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,380 biggest hands in the world Malkoff cocktails technically, a 426 00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:08,610 bottle of like a, like a milk bottle filled with gasoline and 427 00:25:08,610 --> 00:25:09,660 a rag stuffed in 428 00:25:09,660 --> 00:25:13,050 it. Yeah, no, this is this is sterno things it's for cooking. 429 00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:19,590 So he had no Molotov. This is crazy. And the best part, which 430 00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:21,600 there's not mentioned in this report, I don't know if you ever 431 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,870 report about it is that he had a podcast. 432 00:25:25,530 --> 00:25:28,710 Yeah. That was in the written report. I didn't hear it in any 433 00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:29,850 of the TV stuff. 434 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,840 No. And I was like, really? Are they going for the podcast? But 435 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:40,410 I listened to his podcast, which is called Freedom Fighter radio. 436 00:25:40,679 --> 00:25:41,969 Oh, you found it? Yeah. I 437 00:25:41,970 --> 00:25:45,780 sent you a note I sent you in I actually sent you a link to it 438 00:25:45,780 --> 00:25:46,500 on iTunes 439 00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:49,200 it Oh, yeah. The clip? No, I 440 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,980 can't. You don't even you can't listen to this for five seconds. 441 00:25:53,130 --> 00:25:57,810 It's this guy is insane. And his whole podcast one of these Alex 442 00:25:57,810 --> 00:26:02,580 Jones wannabes. Like they're ever gonna do a rally here we 443 00:26:02,580 --> 00:26:04,860 got our we're gonna have our ARS. We're gonna be cocked and 444 00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:08,280 loaded and one in the chamber. I'm gonna get pissed off people. 445 00:26:12,210 --> 00:26:12,630 That's 446 00:26:13,290 --> 00:26:15,390 telling you pretty good. Alex Jones. 447 00:26:15,420 --> 00:26:19,470 Oh, I can do much better. I told you this. We have to document 448 00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:23,670 the join us again. Blow your voice. Yeah. 449 00:26:24,570 --> 00:26:27,210 Would it be that we messed up? If I then wound up having a 450 00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:28,500 voice like him all the time? 451 00:26:28,890 --> 00:26:32,070 Yeah, you blew it. You blow your voice out trying to do him and 452 00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:34,110 then up then you become a voice. 453 00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:36,810 Alright, let's have some tangy tangerine. 454 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,130 Okay, well, I took a different little a different tact on this. 455 00:26:41,130 --> 00:26:44,610 I I think maybe they weren't going after podcasts. But I 456 00:26:44,610 --> 00:26:47,730 think they de emphasize that on these reports. Luckily, 457 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,170 well, the podcasts suck so bad. If it's a detriment to you can't 458 00:26:52,170 --> 00:26:54,300 even it's not fair to call it a podcast, 459 00:26:54,330 --> 00:26:56,730 just a rantings of a lunatic? Well, 460 00:26:57,420 --> 00:26:59,610 I have a link to it. Everyone can go check it out on talk 461 00:26:59,610 --> 00:27:03,060 shoe. What's interesting, is he has one line on talk shoe you 462 00:27:03,060 --> 00:27:06,570 can record and then you can schedule it for release. It's 463 00:27:06,570 --> 00:27:11,250 supposed to come out I think on the 11th so tomorrow, no, the 464 00:27:11,250 --> 00:27:16,080 11th No, the ninth Tuesday. It's supposed to automatically be 465 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:21,480 released so you can't listen to it yet. Yeah, I know. But this 466 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,840 guy is over. It doesn't matter. This is no play. No play. He's 467 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,070 out of out of play. 468 00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:29,490 I think so too. But I think there's still an element here 469 00:27:29,490 --> 00:27:32,130 that we have to be on the lookout for and see if you can 470 00:27:32,130 --> 00:27:36,720 spot what it is with the I haven't in both in well you'll 471 00:27:36,750 --> 00:27:38,580 you'll catch in the second clip for sure. 472 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,050 Which 1am i Oh Jasper one Jasper one. All right. 473 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,760 Disturbing details emerge about a man you got music to do you 474 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,860 hear that? Some local news shows are great arrested near the 475 00:27:52,860 --> 00:27:54,270 University of Washington. 476 00:27:54,450 --> 00:27:58,140 Investigators say not only was he armed with fire bombs, guns, 477 00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:03,240 knives and a machete he had maps to three Seattle campuses. It 478 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,130 sounds very similar to mine. To my scary music. No yours is 479 00:28:08,130 --> 00:28:11,670 scary. Do you mind to hold on to somebody? Let me check. Now our 480 00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:16,170 other big story of the night a stark difference to judge 481 00:28:16,170 --> 00:28:19,740 called the suspect and imminent threat the prosecutor laid out 482 00:28:19,740 --> 00:28:22,830 stunning new evidence it all unfolded today in the Seattle 483 00:28:22,830 --> 00:28:26,100 courtroom as we got our first look at the man behind all the 484 00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:29,370 ammo. Coming first Lindsey Cohen is live in downtown Seattle with 485 00:28:29,370 --> 00:28:31,170 a very first appearance. 486 00:28:32,490 --> 00:28:35,430 Where does all the ammo come from? We haven't heard about it 487 00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:35,700 he's 488 00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:39,840 behind for just drove Bella's 489 00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:44,640 picked up just 1000s of boxes of ammo. Buy love. Have a good 490 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,740 time. I'll see you later Jasper Lindsay. 491 00:28:47,580 --> 00:28:50,730 Eric, we also got our first glimpse at some core papers 492 00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:54,270 where that suspect lists his occupation as a journalist. What 493 00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:57,300 we don't have at this point is any sort of motive or 494 00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:58,080 explanation. 495 00:28:59,010 --> 00:29:02,160 There I see what you're coming at. He's a journalist. 496 00:29:04,890 --> 00:29:08,850 He may have no criminal history, but prosecutors hint Justin 497 00:29:08,850 --> 00:29:12,030 miles Jasper may have been planning something big being 498 00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:16,020 military grade and quality in addition to a stockpile of 499 00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:19,170 military grade weapons. Prosecutors now say the Las 500 00:29:19,170 --> 00:29:22,500 Vegas resident was filled with anti government literature. In 501 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:26,190 addition to detailed maps of Seattle area college campuses, 502 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,810 you had a no agenda lanyard, which is anti government 503 00:29:30,810 --> 00:29:31,560 literature. 504 00:29:31,710 --> 00:29:34,830 And police at the University of Washington pulled him over in a 505 00:29:34,830 --> 00:29:37,050 stolen truck Wednesday night 506 00:29:37,170 --> 00:29:40,560 yet maps detailed maps to three college campuses including 507 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,070 University of Washington, Seattle Community College and 508 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:45,210 Seattle University. 509 00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:49,980 That's great. I love the journalist. 510 00:29:50,610 --> 00:29:52,140 Yeah, no journalists, 511 00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,470 from podcasts or journalists. Yeah, that's good. 512 00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:57,150 Okay, now there's a couple of memes here we have to always 513 00:29:57,180 --> 00:30:01,080 deal with one is we know and we've talked about And we're at 514 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,360 least the two of us. I believe both of us are convinced that 515 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,260 they're trying to criminalize unlicensed journalism. 516 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:12,420 Yes. Wanton, wanton publishing wanton. potlights, and 517 00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:13,260 publishing and 518 00:30:13,260 --> 00:30:16,080 all the rest of it. So there's gonna be a lot of people, I 519 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,930 don't think the two of us would be categorized in this category. 520 00:30:18,930 --> 00:30:22,080 I mean, I've been written for newspapers, I think I get I get 521 00:30:22,110 --> 00:30:24,060 I get through the filter. 522 00:30:24,179 --> 00:30:25,799 Are you saying something about me? 523 00:30:26,010 --> 00:30:29,430 You? You? I think you, you, I don't know why 524 00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:33,810 I have I do have a case, I have thoughts on what defines someone 525 00:30:33,810 --> 00:30:36,030 as a journalist or not I knew to anyone 526 00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:38,610 is a journalist who didn't with the Founding Fathers, they were 527 00:30:38,610 --> 00:30:41,550 all journalistic. Anyone who writes as a journalist, and it's 528 00:30:41,550 --> 00:30:44,160 all it's legal to write and say what you want. That's what the 529 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,760 whole deal is. I don't know why they've made why they're trying 530 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,700 to crack down on this. But but the idea is to make I do 531 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,380 I do, okay, because their definition quote, they there 532 00:30:55,380 --> 00:31:00,990 them, those guys, a journalist is someone who has an editor, 533 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,200 that is what is going to be the ultimate definition of a 534 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,560 journalist. If you are within an organization or your work is 535 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,810 submitted to an editor, then you will be deemed a journalist and 536 00:31:12,810 --> 00:31:13,590 annual, you're gonna 537 00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:16,710 have to submit your work to me. Yes, and you will have to 538 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:21,630 approve it. I have to fan and I have to grade me on it. When I 539 00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:24,540 send the newsletter out. In fact, 540 00:31:24,930 --> 00:31:26,970 I approve it, I approve your work, send 541 00:31:26,970 --> 00:31:28,860 it to you edit it, 542 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,400 and I send it back. And usually I'm like, oh, man, don't you 543 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,590 know how to spell use a spell checker? 544 00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:40,650 So I use a spell checker beside the point. Yeah, works great. 545 00:31:40,890 --> 00:31:43,710 But you have to put that so I think it would whatever the case 546 00:31:43,710 --> 00:31:46,500 is that in the other one, which I think is the one that we're 547 00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:49,620 really working on here, which is a freedom of speech. The Press 548 00:31:49,650 --> 00:31:54,060 issue, yeah, which is anti government literature, whatever 549 00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:57,510 that is, we play Jasper to and we hear some outside. 550 00:31:58,170 --> 00:32:01,680 What Jasper was going to do with those universities remains to be 551 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,150 seen but police say they found a shotgun, a rifle, six Molotov 552 00:32:06,150 --> 00:32:09,720 cocktails, three knives, even body armor. In court, 553 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,140 prosecutors held up some of the anti government literature that 554 00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:14,250 was also found 555 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,460 shooting revolution is being hijacked by Western vultures. 556 00:32:17,790 --> 00:32:19,890 The other one the Brazilian revolution is 557 00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:25,140 Jasper's arrest on the Fourth of July caught the attention of 558 00:32:25,140 --> 00:32:26,760 students at U DUB Oh, hold 559 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,990 on a second. What's the play there? Yeah, he read the his 560 00:32:30,990 --> 00:32:32,760 This is anti government literature 561 00:32:33,060 --> 00:32:35,610 that it's talking about the Brazilian government. Yeah, 562 00:32:35,610 --> 00:32:39,750 he says this Syrian the Syrian revolution is being hijacked by 563 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:42,480 Western powers. And the Brazilian revolution is not 564 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,430 being emphasized something or other. How is this and rose to 565 00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:50,130 being anti government with maybe it's about some other 566 00:32:50,130 --> 00:32:53,400 government. But this is not anti government literature, 567 00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:57,390 these this is very, very dangerous. This news report is 568 00:32:57,390 --> 00:33:00,720 more dangerous than this guy. Obviously, this is the kind of 569 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,560 stuff that this report is disgusting. It's very unedited. 570 00:33:04,590 --> 00:33:08,550 Clearly, we have some package things being sent around with, 571 00:33:08,910 --> 00:33:12,210 with music all queued up to make it all you know, to emphasize 572 00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:15,060 it. We know that this happens all the time that these news 573 00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:17,760 packages are sent out. And then the local news loves it. They 574 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,740 love getting it because they don't have to send a guy out to 575 00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:23,190 do a voiceover didn't sound like they had much more than that. 576 00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:28,020 They had pool video. Yeah, this is dangerous. This is very 577 00:33:28,020 --> 00:33:31,710 dangerous stuff. But we're getting close. John, we are now 578 00:33:31,740 --> 00:33:36,330 officially within target range when they start talking about 579 00:33:36,660 --> 00:33:40,260 podcasters being journalists and then journalists having anti 580 00:33:40,260 --> 00:33:43,830 government material. How about our show notes? 581 00:33:45,450 --> 00:33:48,570 They don't notes for the no agenda show or anti government? 582 00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:53,760 I was a prosecutor with you know, a grudge. Yeah. Or I just 583 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,300 had you targeted, let's say targeted? Yeah, I could go 584 00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,810 through that. And I could make a case easily. But I could do that 585 00:34:00,810 --> 00:34:02,880 with the New York Times for that matter. 586 00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:07,110 This is this is what this whole man, this is exactly the 587 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:11,310 conversation that people need to understand when it comes to 588 00:34:11,610 --> 00:34:15,330 getting, you know, allowing some mediocre encroachment on your 589 00:34:15,330 --> 00:34:19,230 liberty, in turn for some safety. This is exactly the 590 00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:22,200 problem, the interpretation. I was telling someone the other 591 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,190 day, I was involved in the first real loss that I was involved in 592 00:34:26,190 --> 00:34:31,470 with many more to follow was at Viacom versus me about the 593 00:34:31,470 --> 00:34:37,260 mtv.com domain name. And this is now 1993. And I went through the 594 00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:40,560 process of discovery and with discovery, you pretty much have 595 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,740 to show everything that the other side asked for and in 596 00:34:43,770 --> 00:34:49,950 those days, it was email but email we didn't have you know, 597 00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:53,640 nice little didn't have Gmail or any of this. You know, you had 598 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,880 your email on a server that you typically had in your own 599 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,120 office. We didn't have you know, services that hosted me They'll 600 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,080 servers. And I had to take printouts of email, yes, 601 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,850 printouts, reams of paper, and backups on floppies, which were 602 00:35:08,850 --> 00:35:11,580 three and a half inch hard floppies, not quite the floppy 603 00:35:11,580 --> 00:35:14,940 floppies. And I had to take them over and I had to walk through 604 00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:19,080 it all with the with the other attorneys. And when this is used 605 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,010 in court, as I wrote something off the cuff like, you know, 606 00:35:23,250 --> 00:35:27,420 fuck those guys at MTV, but about, you know, a video that 607 00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:30,150 we're playing. And I wrote that to someone else that was then 608 00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:34,590 used in court. Yeah. And you hear the other lawyer use this, 609 00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:38,880 you know, clearly Mr. Curry had a disdain for the, and you sit 610 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,550 there you go, like, holy crap, I'm guilty. That's how that's 611 00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:48,360 how it comes across it without context without the that's why 612 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,620 communications that are private have to be private. Because if I 613 00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:56,070 say this show, John knows, as you all know, I'm talking about 614 00:35:56,070 --> 00:35:59,610 no agenda show. But to someone who just reads that sentence in 615 00:35:59,610 --> 00:36:02,790 a transcript has no idea what they think, Oh, he was talking 616 00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:07,320 about that guy's show. It's the context that that that can then 617 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,580 be used to put anyone in jail, including, as you point out, 618 00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:15,450 John and the entire staff, a newsroom with the New York Times 619 00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:21,300 if you have no context. Yeah. Alright, that's it. Good night. 620 00:36:21,330 --> 00:36:21,660 We're done 621 00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:26,310 at a drop of a hat if it was if it wasn't, but by virtue of the 622 00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:29,250 fact that we are so entertaining, many of our 623 00:36:29,250 --> 00:36:32,880 government agents, yes. We've gone long ago. 624 00:36:33,660 --> 00:36:37,140 Like, I'm sure the note comes by from time to time, it has time 625 00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:43,590 to pick those guys up. And I was like, Oh, no. What are we going 626 00:36:43,590 --> 00:36:47,520 to do twice a week? What I'm going to do on my commute? Have 627 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,800 you ever driven in to the DC? Come on, we can't pick those 628 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,730 guys up. But clearly, Something's coming. 629 00:36:57,029 --> 00:37:02,429 Yeah. And it has to do with government literature. I have 630 00:37:02,429 --> 00:37:04,829 like a fairly decent collection for exam 631 00:37:04,859 --> 00:37:08,789 of anti government literature. No, I haven't selected Lenin the 632 00:37:08,789 --> 00:37:10,019 anti government literature 633 00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:12,390 Marxist stuff. In fact, I'm reading Karl Marx's history of 634 00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:15,210 the civil war as we speak now you 635 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:19,380 you you commie anti government basket would be 636 00:37:19,439 --> 00:37:22,349 it could be easily construed if it was taken completely out of 637 00:37:22,349 --> 00:37:27,299 context. Yes, I was a communist. Communist as you can get. 638 00:37:27,330 --> 00:37:30,090 Absolutely. And that's the number one thing with books I 639 00:37:30,090 --> 00:37:31,890 have mine calm fear. 640 00:37:33,090 --> 00:37:36,330 Well, I've always suspected that Oh, please come on. I have mine 641 00:37:36,330 --> 00:37:39,810 coffin I have. I have Mussolini's novel. Of course, 642 00:37:39,810 --> 00:37:42,300 you have mine comp. Yeah, of course. It's somewhere I don't 643 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:45,480 even know where it is important information. I have Mussolini's 644 00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:51,390 novel, which has got to say that must be crazy. No, yes. Well, I 645 00:37:51,390 --> 00:37:54,660 can't remember the name of it's really a piece of crap. I think 646 00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:56,730 it's very collected information, man. 647 00:37:56,940 --> 00:37:59,910 New shit has come to light. You're not going to believe 648 00:37:59,910 --> 00:38:03,810 this. The book that you turned everyone on to in the garden of 649 00:38:03,810 --> 00:38:10,680 the beasts. Yeah, yeah. Now I so there's only two possible 650 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:16,260 reasons this is happening. A which I want to believe we are 651 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:20,850 just so ahead of the curve. Are you Did you just get Whoa, what 652 00:38:20,850 --> 00:38:21,420 was that? 653 00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:23,820 Not me. Oh, that was me. 654 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:32,100 Never had that happen before. On the Windows box. either. You are 655 00:38:32,130 --> 00:38:35,310 just so ahead of the curve, which I think is pretty much 656 00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:39,840 what we always are on the show or and I'd hate to think this. 657 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,700 You are an agent of change. Throwing propaganda on us. 658 00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:49,320 Yeah, yeah. That seems unlikely based on my income 659 00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:57,030 Tom. Tom Hanks will be releasing the movie version of in the 660 00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:59,670 garden of beasts in 2014. Well, that'd 661 00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:00,240 be great. 662 00:39:00,270 --> 00:39:03,690 How about that? Yeah. Is that insane that we've been talking 663 00:39:03,690 --> 00:39:08,640 about this. And he will play the ambassador he'll play the 664 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,700 ambassador and Natalie Portman will be this is gonna be a huge 665 00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:12,360 mural. Natalie 666 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,330 Portman is going to be the dim witted daughter. Yeah. 667 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,250 It says it says rumored but I'm 668 00:39:21,180 --> 00:39:24,870 perfect. I think she'd be good all in on the Nazi screw and 669 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:27,420 they head to the Gestapo. And she's smoking. 670 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:33,450 Yeah. Tommy. So now we have to think Tom Hanks. Him doing this 671 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,120 is he what's the spin he's gonna eat? I mean, it's hard to put 672 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,830 any spin on this book, although I looked at the budget 673 00:39:40,830 --> 00:39:42,240 was producing and direct he is 674 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,730 it's his touchstone. It's his it's his he's gonna It's Oh, 675 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:48,510 he's going yeah. No, yes. No, no, I'm sorry, Director. 676 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:54,240 Michelle. azana Vicus. Let me see what Michelle Havana NICUs 677 00:39:54,240 --> 00:40:02,730 has done. He's done. Ooh, some spy. Movies OSS one separately, 678 00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:07,950 guys. What is the artists 2009? Which I O T directed the artist? 679 00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:12,960 Oh, hello you know the artists right? 680 00:40:13,110 --> 00:40:13,890 I know the 681 00:40:13,890 --> 00:40:16,740 artists yeah the silent movie that won the Best Oscar so 682 00:40:16,770 --> 00:40:18,240 that's a great director. 683 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,460 Well, yeah, but now he's got voices so you get to do it as a 684 00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:23,910 silent 685 00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:27,810 silent, silent movie to a great movie no talking just a bunch of 686 00:40:27,810 --> 00:40:29,700 Nazis all over Natalie Portman. 687 00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:34,650 Well after reading the book I'm gonna be interested in see how 688 00:40:34,650 --> 00:40:37,260 they handle it as a screenplay because there's a lot of stuff 689 00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:38,640 in there. That's really weird play 690 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,500 tone productions have not touched on Play tone 691 00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:43,530 productions. That's Hanks his movie company budget. $50 692 00:40:43,530 --> 00:40:48,930 million. That's small. That's a small budget. Of course he can 693 00:40:48,930 --> 00:40:49,170 but it's 694 00:40:49,170 --> 00:40:52,140 not an action adventure. That's actually for just a straight 695 00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:54,060 drama. That's that seems Reason No, 696 00:40:54,090 --> 00:41:00,180 that's not true. It depends on the stars. Most of the money 697 00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:02,490 that you see in these budgets, Frank Karachi, my friend who 698 00:41:02,490 --> 00:41:04,980 just did the he doesn't the Kevin James movies, which are 699 00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:10,530 not action movies, but he had Kevin James, Salma Hayek, he had 700 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,030 Henry Winkler that's $170 million movie and I said, What 701 00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:18,660 do you do? You spend it on hookers? He's like, Yeah, 702 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:22,620 they're called actors. Because every one of these actors these 703 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:25,290 days are getting 20 $25 million. It's crazy. 704 00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:27,960 Yeah, but if you're doing it, maybe this is a small this is 705 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,870 not the regular production company that Jenks works for. It 706 00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:33,120 sounds to me that is going to take just a piece of the action, 707 00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:36,600 run it out as an indie, and it's not going to cost that much. 708 00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:37,980 Well, that is fine budget. 709 00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:42,540 He's probably not taking any money. And this problem and this 710 00:41:42,540 --> 00:41:45,780 budget probably does not include anything regarding marketing. 711 00:41:45,930 --> 00:41:48,030 And Playtone. His his own production company. 712 00:41:48,510 --> 00:41:51,690 Yeah, he's just gonna go for the small, small. Yeah. 713 00:41:52,590 --> 00:41:57,600 But but it could. No, he's been known to do some kind of 714 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,920 propaganda stick stuff. 715 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:00,930 Yeah, very much. So. 716 00:42:00,990 --> 00:42:04,020 Yeah. So is he going to turn this around and turn it into the 717 00:42:04,020 --> 00:42:05,070 Nazis? We're good? 718 00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,810 Don't think so? I think it'll work that one out. 719 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,870 And how do you choose this? The only reason you brought this 720 00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:16,320 book up is to say hold on a second. Look at exactly where we 721 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,590 are. This is the only reason to read this book now is to say, 722 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,490 here's history. Look at what happened the run up to the to 723 00:42:23,490 --> 00:42:27,600 the Hitler regime, to the killing of anyone not blue eyed 724 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,410 and blonde, to the overrun of Europe to the the second 725 00:42:31,410 --> 00:42:35,850 greatest World War. The only reason to read that now is to 726 00:42:35,850 --> 00:42:39,450 avoid the same trappings which we're clearly headed right 727 00:42:39,450 --> 00:42:43,170 towards. Do you think Tom Hanks is the guy to bring this message 728 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,310 in this movie? Or is he trying to fork this message and make it 729 00:42:47,310 --> 00:42:50,550 into a Nazi movie? You know what I mean? 730 00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:56,250 Like don't go read the message I think the message I think you're 731 00:42:56,250 --> 00:43:01,230 writing the message of this book it base level is that the world 732 00:43:01,230 --> 00:43:04,140 back then is maybe what we're going through now which is we 733 00:43:04,140 --> 00:43:08,820 talk about this commonly on the show that are we in the 30s in 734 00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:13,470 1930s Germany it was was it like that when you around the dinner 735 00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:15,780 table what was going on in Germany they weren't all freaked 736 00:43:15,780 --> 00:43:17,760 out because Hitler was running things they were all happy 737 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,210 people were acting normal they agreed with everything you know 738 00:43:21,210 --> 00:43:24,420 in fact like the story in the in the book which the with the 739 00:43:24,420 --> 00:43:27,600 demoted daughter, who's screwing everybody she just thinks that 740 00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:33,630 Nazism is fantastic, right? Right and then famous. What's 741 00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:40,410 good Kaltenborn who was a radio commentator? We've I don't know 742 00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:42,150 if he played a clip of him before but we 743 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:47,130 let me give you an alternative scenario. And by the way, Mr. 744 00:43:47,130 --> 00:43:47,520 Sandwich 745 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,770 I mean that that's what's in the book. I don't know what Hanks is 746 00:43:49,770 --> 00:43:50,190 going to do. 747 00:43:50,730 --> 00:43:54,240 alternative scenario Mr. Silicon in the chat room who said oh my 748 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,790 god who cares move on you're gonna be the first one in the 749 00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:59,970 oven. Okay, you're the on the train in the oven first get 750 00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:02,580 back to the story don't Don't be given us chat rooms. 751 00:44:03,540 --> 00:44:09,720 The the maybe it went down like this. It Oh my god. And he's no 752 00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:12,630 agenda guys are talking about this book. stop people from 753 00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:14,790 reading the book. Hanks Hanks. 754 00:44:15,870 --> 00:44:19,140 Hey, not Clooney. Well, he's 755 00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:24,210 Hollywood establishment. Yeah, no, no, no, no. distraction from 756 00:44:24,210 --> 00:44:28,650 legal action. Call Hollywood. Hey, thanks, man. Listen, could 757 00:44:28,650 --> 00:44:31,710 you make this movie about you know, some jackboot guys bang 758 00:44:31,710 --> 00:44:33,660 and Natalie Portman or something? Just some people 759 00:44:33,660 --> 00:44:36,030 shouldn't read the book. Okay. 760 00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:38,670 Well, it's so that's 761 00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:41,310 not that's not important. It's not unthinkable. 762 00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:45,000 No, and the people that always complain about this when they 763 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,820 see the movie, they read the book. They go, Oh, it's nothing 764 00:44:47,820 --> 00:44:50,130 like the book. Actually. Nobody reads the book. 765 00:44:50,370 --> 00:44:52,290 Exactly. Exactly. 766 00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:55,680 Here's what's worse about that kind of thing. If you think 767 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,790 about it, here's the psychology. Hanks puts a dynamite movie not 768 00:44:59,790 --> 00:45:02,100 dying. and might not see movie together important getting 769 00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:05,970 screwed by these jackbooted thugs. And she's loving it. And 770 00:45:06,030 --> 00:45:08,190 people cause it. There's nothing like the book is more than I 771 00:45:08,190 --> 00:45:10,260 don't want to read the book. movie was great. 772 00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:15,330 They win either way, whether the movies a dog or not. Well, the 773 00:45:15,330 --> 00:45:19,080 important thing that the takeaway from this is, Tom Hanks 774 00:45:19,110 --> 00:45:23,460 is going to wind up giving you information and giving the world 775 00:45:23,460 --> 00:45:26,220 information that no matter how it turns out, people will not 776 00:45:26,220 --> 00:45:29,760 read this book. And he's getting he has a $50 million budget for 777 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,180 it. We, on the other hand, will produce the best podcast in the 778 00:45:33,180 --> 00:45:36,660 universe. And we have zero budget. Well, not true. We have 779 00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:40,980 producers who care about what we're putting on the air. And I 780 00:45:40,980 --> 00:45:43,740 think we should thank our executive producers very similar 781 00:45:43,740 --> 00:45:47,490 to when this movie comes out. You'll see people up there you 782 00:45:47,490 --> 00:45:50,580 know, John F. Kerry, you know, they have all the all the people 783 00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:53,670 that helped out on the movie, we'll have some, you know, some 784 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,520 Holocaust experts, but then we'll have the money people, 785 00:45:56,580 --> 00:45:59,910 Harvey Weinstein. Now, these are the people that are going to be 786 00:45:59,910 --> 00:46:03,330 financing the movie you know, say executive producer, Harvey 787 00:46:03,330 --> 00:46:06,900 Weinstein, Associate Executive Producer, Harvey, Weinstein's, 788 00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:10,530 kid, brother, all that it just goes on and on and on and on. I 789 00:46:10,530 --> 00:46:16,440 don't think he's married actually. Ah, so we have our 790 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,730 version of that. And these are the people that keep the show on 791 00:46:20,730 --> 00:46:25,440 the air by enabling us to do the show. I am I talking long enough 792 00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:26,760 to bring up the spreadsheet? Well, you 793 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:32,640 know, here's the problem. So I got a spreadsheet error, oh, 794 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,450 really excels unopened, able to open the file by repairing or 795 00:46:36,450 --> 00:46:39,840 removing the unreadable content. And it gives a bunch of 796 00:46:39,870 --> 00:46:42,990 unreadable parts. So all I do is I'll have it on mine is column 797 00:46:42,990 --> 00:46:46,200 B, and a list of numbers. Do you have a spreadsheet? They don't 798 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:46,980 actually read? Yeah, 799 00:46:47,009 --> 00:46:49,289 I do. I do. i What's 800 00:46:49,290 --> 00:46:52,200 wrong with mine, I read in. And I also wish I want to mention 801 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,800 this to Eric. But I want to mention it to everybody. If 802 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,740 you're running newer versions of any of these prod any of these 803 00:46:58,740 --> 00:47:03,900 windows products, don't send out the x version. Like for the 804 00:47:03,930 --> 00:47:07,560 spreadsheets, send out an XLS. If you've got a doc file, people 805 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,180 do this all the time, they send out the doc x. Now only people 806 00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:15,510 with the newest versions of these programs can read doc X, 807 00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:20,010 man, man, I can read it as XLS x on this machine, by the way, but 808 00:47:20,010 --> 00:47:21,630 if for some reason it's not coming in, 809 00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:25,410 can I can I kind of give you some data points? Yes, number 810 00:47:25,410 --> 00:47:30,930 one, you can open the X versions, I use Open Office and 811 00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:35,160 it opens all x versions of everything. Beautifully. When 812 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,460 Eric sent the spreadsheet this morning, it said in the email it 813 00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:42,360 said I have stopped using Windows eight I have moved to 814 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:48,120 Linux. There could be errors in the spreadsheet. I opened the 815 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,410 spreadsheet on Open Office on the Mac no problems. Can you oh 816 00:47:52,410 --> 00:47:56,010 can you try opening it in Open Office? And I encourage and I'm 817 00:47:56,190 --> 00:48:00,120 I encourage Eric not to use Microsoft products so I'm all 818 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,360 for it. And it opened fine and works perfectly in Open Office. 819 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,070 So I don't understand why it's an 820 00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:07,890 egg would work in Microsoft because it's supposed to be 821 00:48:07,890 --> 00:48:08,910 compatible. Oh, of 822 00:48:08,910 --> 00:48:12,630 course it won't. Microsoft is just not compatible. They their 823 00:48:13,110 --> 00:48:15,060 their job and you are you running eight? 824 00:48:16,290 --> 00:48:17,220 I'm running seven. 825 00:48:17,730 --> 00:48:19,530 Do you want to just try Open Office? 826 00:48:19,860 --> 00:48:23,130 I don't know that I have open office on this on this Windows 827 00:48:23,130 --> 00:48:25,740 machine because I tried to keep stuff off this machine because 828 00:48:25,740 --> 00:48:28,740 it's a podcasting machine. Let me see really 829 00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:33,510 does it have? Does it have a little sticker? Yes it does. And 830 00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:39,000 podcasting machine only hands off. Um, while soon you will 831 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,950 have the ultimate podcast device and you will only need the 832 00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:46,080 computer for spreadsheets. 833 00:48:46,860 --> 00:48:49,320 Excel was able to open the file by repairing or removing the 834 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,460 unreadable content. Go ahead just say yes and still check 835 00:48:53,460 --> 00:48:54,870 views listing rip 836 00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:57,870 Do you mind if I do you mind if I just read the you're gonna 837 00:48:57,870 --> 00:49:01,920 have to because I can't. Okay, why don't you find a sir Eric's 838 00:49:01,950 --> 00:49:08,100 note of Minnesota knots apparently sent you an email or 839 00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:15,480 no. I'll start though with Sir. David R. Foley, black Baron of 840 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:24,480 Silicon Valley who comes in with a very apropos $777.33 He knows 841 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,780 how to send us a message that's for sure. And he's from Los 842 00:49:27,780 --> 00:49:30,120 Gatos, California in the morning, Adam, John please keep 843 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,830 that no agenda karma coming my way as my stock doubled after 844 00:49:34,830 --> 00:49:40,470 your last dose. So we are happy to tell the Baron of Silicon 845 00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:43,620 Valley to bend over because here comes another dose of karma. 846 00:49:43,770 --> 00:49:50,460 You've got karma. That is fantastic as a measure of 847 00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:55,110 support for the program. Then we have sir Eric of Minnesota knots 848 00:49:55,110 --> 00:50:00,090 who I believe this was meant for. I'm saying ain't 849 00:50:00,090 --> 00:50:02,610 gonna say the fourth he wanted to get it in, but it just showed 850 00:50:02,610 --> 00:50:04,680 up at the post office box on Saturday 851 00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:10,440 five, so he does five to 774. But I'm gonna give him five to 852 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,740 eight club member. Because if you round it up, it's five to 853 00:50:13,740 --> 00:50:15,360 eight. And you have a note from him. 854 00:50:15,930 --> 00:50:21,000 Yeah, he says, Here's some money. Right. That's it. And 855 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,520 Bob, by the way, I want to mention this. He's actually 856 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,450 somewhat famous and where are you where he's from? But what he 857 00:50:27,450 --> 00:50:31,080 did was he is a very cute little letter and it's got a seal. You 858 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,290 use the no agenda. Oh, our ceiling, our ceiling, the 859 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,610 envelope and then inside and his little note, he's got the seal 860 00:50:38,610 --> 00:50:42,180 again. Really? That's cool. He's using that wax. 861 00:50:42,810 --> 00:50:46,680 I think I use my wax up pretty quick. I did that for a while. 862 00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:51,930 Okay, I'm gonna put my signet ring in there. Perfect. Sir Mark 863 00:50:51,930 --> 00:50:55,650 Dytham of Tokyo. Of course, we have Sir Mark and de mastered 864 00:50:55,650 --> 00:50:58,020 who have been longtime supporters of the show. Both of 865 00:50:58,020 --> 00:51:04,620 them are extremely famous in, in in Japan. And Sir Mark says, 866 00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:08,970 What can we say you are already the only news source we listen 867 00:51:08,970 --> 00:51:13,110 to. We just cannot bear to listen to anything else. I'm 868 00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:16,800 doing my sums. He's British. It looks like I can proudly call 869 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,150 myself Baron of Tokyo territory will happily be the slave under 870 00:51:21,150 --> 00:51:24,570 the Viscountess Astrid of Tokyo. Needless to say, I need to 871 00:51:24,570 --> 00:51:28,590 upgrade quickly to VI count. I'm sorry vi count. So I can get by 872 00:51:28,590 --> 00:51:33,480 and we'll start by donating $333.33 today. I was in Beijing 873 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,230 Friday night. Did you see the note with the with the bottle? 874 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,040 I just need to know what the bottle is. I was thinking 875 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,450 of slipping this bottle of Chateau Latour. 1981 into a bag 876 00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:48,660 for John to auction off. However, it was a six liter 877 00:51:48,660 --> 00:51:53,580 bottle. This thing was beautiful that it was opened. The cork was 878 00:51:53,580 --> 00:51:55,050 off and people were drinking it. 879 00:51:55,590 --> 00:51:58,800 Yeah, well, six liter bottle is a Imperial. 880 00:51:59,460 --> 00:52:02,940 Right. That's got to be an $8,000 bottle of wine. 881 00:52:03,330 --> 00:52:08,190 There's anyone Latour. Yeah, more? No, it's a six litre of AD 882 00:52:08,190 --> 00:52:12,060 when the tours probably say probably about $1,000 at 883 00:52:12,060 --> 00:52:16,320 least as we ended up. Okay, so 6000 Big deal. 884 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,320 All adds up. 885 00:52:19,350 --> 00:52:25,590 He says we ended up drinking it. The whole bottle. Yeah. That's 886 00:52:25,620 --> 00:52:30,600 that's that's our audience. I love it. Good to see Sir Mark. 887 00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:35,670 Oh, hello. Damien Rothschild 888 00:52:37,860 --> 00:52:39,750 apparently is the Baron of Tokyo. 889 00:52:40,170 --> 00:52:44,760 Welcome to Tokyo which I own and as you said hello to VI counters 890 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:52,260 damn Astrid. If you don't you clap you and irons. Love you. I 891 00:52:52,260 --> 00:52:56,190 love you guys. We'll make sure we we attach the proper title to 892 00:52:56,190 --> 00:52:59,850 you, Baron of Tokyo. That's great. 893 00:53:00,630 --> 00:53:04,080 You know, I'm thinking that if Eric, what you just did, he sent 894 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:09,120 me the XLS file. Yeah. Because with these open office systems, 895 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,870 all these other ones. They I think that perfect works fine 896 00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:16,800 words because the Microsoft is really screwed with things with 897 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,400 this x thing? Yeah, because they did it with Doc x, which I still 898 00:53:20,430 --> 00:53:24,000 moan and groan about. Okay, so he's got the I got the thing 899 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:29,820 now. You all good? Well, not really. Because I have David 900 00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:33,900 Foley at the top HW Smith and Dame Francine Hardaway he sent 901 00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:35,280 me the last week's or 902 00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:37,350 that's not the right one. 903 00:53:37,410 --> 00:53:40,110 That's 526 Eric That's not what's okay. 904 00:53:40,140 --> 00:53:44,340 I will continue to work things out. John Reichert. I think it 905 00:53:44,340 --> 00:53:51,870 is ri ch er T from New Orleans. This is also a 33333 donation. 906 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,050 This should put me overnight level could use some heartbreak 907 00:53:55,050 --> 00:53:58,650 karma ha Are there any New Orleans area female listeners 908 00:53:58,650 --> 00:54:03,450 out there looking for love from a night? Jesus? That's sad he 909 00:54:03,450 --> 00:54:07,200 adds to his note. Well, John, we will be knighting you today and 910 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,050 I would just have to use my regular line which is send 911 00:54:10,050 --> 00:54:15,510 pictures we'll see if we can hook Yep. They're in in New 912 00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:19,710 Orleans and a little bit of heartbreak karma for you. You've 913 00:54:19,710 --> 00:54:26,040 got karma sir Dr. Sharkey is back once again. He is really on 914 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:31,140 a roll and in fact today's donation of 3333 three shouldn't 915 00:54:31,140 --> 00:54:33,720 bring him up to a barren he'd like to be barren sir Dr. 916 00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:38,910 Sharkey, protector of the Great Smoky Mountains. Oh, cool. I 917 00:54:38,910 --> 00:54:41,910 think that's possible. That's fine. And he wants to know why 918 00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:42,090 the 919 00:54:42,090 --> 00:54:49,020 Smoky Mountains are smoky. No, there's so many pine trees in 920 00:54:49,020 --> 00:54:53,130 the area and it gets gets a kind of a hot humidity. That smoke of 921 00:54:53,130 --> 00:54:58,080 the Great Smoky Mountain is all pollution from evaporating pine 922 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:03,480 tar liquids. Uh, terpenes mostly that get into this make this 923 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:08,280 mess smoke smog should be called the Great Smog integration 924 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,770 while he showed me the barren of the Great's protector of the 925 00:55:10,770 --> 00:55:14,220 Great Smoky Mountains. And he wants what does he want here? He 926 00:55:14,220 --> 00:55:20,670 wants a magic number LG y ITM karma okay. That's the magic 927 00:55:20,670 --> 00:55:25,230 number. The magic number 928 00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:37,800 you've got karma Baba Mustapha, or most of our from Clayton 929 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:44,430 North Carolina douchebag that other guy who was supposed to be 930 00:55:44,430 --> 00:55:51,330 douchebag and I'll do it Sure. I would have donated more but I 931 00:55:51,330 --> 00:55:57,000 had to buy some magic beans. From that Alex James from infant 932 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,800 wars. Here the sonic boom from a hellfire and duck really a 933 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,680 missile traveling faster than sound will arrive after the 934 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,610 sound of its sonic boom arrives. Oh, Bogut of clip best podcast 935 00:56:08,610 --> 00:56:12,360 in the universe. Oh, of course. He's talking about the drone 936 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,740 operator who was on NBC with that interview and he's saying 937 00:56:16,740 --> 00:56:20,220 this is total bogus madness because if you if if the guy 938 00:56:20,220 --> 00:56:23,730 hears the sonic boom then the Hellfire is already up his butt. 939 00:56:24,690 --> 00:56:27,600 You know now that you mentioned because it's caught off. 940 00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:31,980 There are so many things we miss that people point out I have 941 00:56:32,010 --> 00:56:34,650 no that's that was it? I would say that that's a that's a mia 942 00:56:34,650 --> 00:56:37,920 culpa. Error on our practice would be 600 something miles an 943 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,430 hour the booms going to arrive long after the thing hits. 944 00:56:41,460 --> 00:56:44,580 Yeah, that's that's really dumb that we missed that one. 945 00:56:44,820 --> 00:56:45,510 Yeah, I 946 00:56:46,650 --> 00:56:50,490 don't know that. Isn't that annoying when that happens? I 947 00:56:50,490 --> 00:56:52,590 got I got another correction. We have to talk. We'll do that in a 948 00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:55,590 second first week. And so Bubba will be an Associate Executive 949 00:56:55,590 --> 00:56:59,370 producer Michael Knight. And Bubba came in with 250 Thank you 950 00:56:59,370 --> 00:57:03,960 very much, Bob and Michael nights from Katy, Texas. Also 951 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,840 250 longtime Boehner first time donor Thank you very much. 952 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,610 Appreciate that. And since you're in the first time, I want 953 00:57:08,610 --> 00:57:11,070 to give you a bit of karma for that. Always nice to see the new 954 00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:18,030 newbies, John sex tro St. Peter's Missouri 222. With no 955 00:57:18,030 --> 00:57:24,990 note that I have Keith Brown, another spring Texas, with $200 956 00:57:24,990 --> 00:57:28,890 will tour will come out to be a Associate Executive Producer. 957 00:57:28,890 --> 00:57:33,960 And there she is. Dame Astrid will be Associate Executive 958 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,410 Producer Dear John and Adam de mastered says your analyses are 959 00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:41,460 top notch lately lately. And getting better by the day. Over 960 00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:45,030 the years I've become such a no agenda bot, that I have to 961 00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:48,510 remind myself to remain critical. If all my calculations 962 00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:50,730 are right, please find the counting below. This should make 963 00:57:50,730 --> 00:57:54,090 me VI, Countess of Tokyo. And I shall endeavor to bring the 964 00:57:54,090 --> 00:57:57,930 city's giant voice system under my jurisdiction to allow for the 965 00:57:57,930 --> 00:58:01,170 best podcast in the universe to be broadcast when the need 966 00:58:01,260 --> 00:58:07,290 arises to awaken the slaves. Thank you and keep it coming. I 967 00:58:07,290 --> 00:58:09,090 have to say I really love these two. 968 00:58:11,070 --> 00:58:16,170 Yeah, no the best. It's yeah, it's good to have them on our 969 00:58:16,170 --> 00:58:16,590 side. 970 00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:21,540 Miss Mickey is doing everything in her power to get us over to 971 00:58:21,540 --> 00:58:22,110 Tokyo. 972 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,650 She should be able to manage that. Now I said, 973 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,140 you know, if you have if you can get a gallery to show you know, 974 00:58:28,140 --> 00:58:30,750 then yeah, then we'll go over. I mean, we don't have like, just 975 00:58:30,750 --> 00:58:33,000 money to go cat galavanting 976 00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:36,990 over there. Yeah, it's an expensive operation. I mean, 977 00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:40,320 other parts of Japan, which are nicer to Tokyo is not that I 978 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,370 don't like Tokyo at all. I think it's too crowded. It's too, too 979 00:58:44,370 --> 00:58:45,000 big. 980 00:58:45,690 --> 00:58:48,150 I've never been there. I've never been so it's kind of I 981 00:58:48,180 --> 00:58:52,680 have to go see it, you know. And Mickey lived in Nagasaki for 982 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,890 five years. So she wants to show me Nagasaki, which sounds like 983 00:58:55,890 --> 00:58:57,300 it's kind of a dynamite place. 984 00:58:58,830 --> 00:59:03,720 Well, Kyoto and Sapporo are the places that most Americans like 985 00:59:03,779 --> 00:59:04,949 that's where the beer comes from. 986 00:59:06,180 --> 00:59:10,770 Maybe named after it. All right. We want to thank all these 987 00:59:10,770 --> 00:59:15,990 people for generously help helping us on show five to 988 00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:21,330 eight. Want to remind people to go to dvorak.org/and a challenge 989 00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:24,510 of org.com/and a no agenda show.com and also no agenda. 990 00:59:24,510 --> 00:59:28,050 nation.com has a donate button there and click on it. And give 991 00:59:28,050 --> 00:59:32,640 us some some attention for show a five to nine coming out next 992 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,220 Thursday. And we're going to be early. I want to remind people 993 00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:37,680 are going to be early hour. Oh, 994 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,330 that's right on Thursday. Yes. Next 995 00:59:39,330 --> 00:59:42,750 Thursday. So people they want to listen live. They might want to 996 00:59:43,290 --> 00:59:43,740 change, 997 00:59:44,010 --> 00:59:49,860 but we will be at 8am Gitmo nation West time. That will be 998 00:59:49,890 --> 00:59:56,610 5pm Get my nation East time I think in the UK and the UK Yeah. 999 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,970 Oh, UK. Yeah, let's get my nation east. Yeah, right route. 1000 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,350 Keep thinking I have no idea 1001 01:00:01,350 --> 01:00:03,450 I'm just going to wait until you call me I'm just gonna get up 1002 01:00:03,450 --> 01:00:06,300 real at five and just wait I have no idea what time it is now 1003 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,690 it's use your whatsapp What time is it there now banks I 1004 01:00:09,690 --> 01:00:15,420 think I get it I'm just kidding Yeah vorak.org/n A 1005 01:00:22,530 --> 01:00:25,920 There you go do you hear the change that now now I can 1006 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,750 remember it. Oh three nine breaking up I could no Ciriaco 1007 01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:40,050 94530 That's it. It works. Yes success okay. Of course we need 1008 01:00:40,050 --> 01:00:44,520 you to do this propagator formula. Our formula is this we 1009 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,860 go out we hit people in the mouth 1010 01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:03,540 you want to make quick mention of the website, which is now 1011 01:01:03,540 --> 01:01:05,520 part of the no agenda news network no agenda news 1012 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:10,110 network.com where anyone can add an RSS feed. So you can it's you 1013 01:01:10,110 --> 01:01:12,510 could have that all of your Google Reader feeds for all IKEA 1014 01:01:12,510 --> 01:01:17,670 they're probably good. 33 is the magic number.com where this 1015 01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:20,970 currently has 166 articles all articles that mentioned the 1016 01:01:20,970 --> 01:01:25,110 number 33 are tracked on this website as a part of the result 1017 01:01:25,110 --> 01:01:27,990 that's cool little masonic symbol here. It's kind of funny. 1018 01:01:29,550 --> 01:01:31,590 This is an interesting website, one of our producers put 1019 01:01:31,590 --> 01:01:32,010 together 1020 01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:36,540 I like it. I think it's overdue, right? Yeah, let's just let's 1021 01:01:36,540 --> 01:01:36,660 have 1022 01:01:36,660 --> 01:01:39,780 a quick little rundown. McDowell clinches French Open title the 1023 01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:43,620 33 year old more time for missing women suspects 1024 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,730 interviewed 33 year old man you Kip is not Tory splinter group 1025 01:01:47,730 --> 01:01:53,550 33% It's interesting. Yeah, it's it's an idea long, long overdue. 1026 01:01:54,870 --> 01:01:56,310 Very nice. Yeah. 1027 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,570 So there's a couple of things going on. Just kind of on the 1028 01:02:00,570 --> 01:02:05,340 side here. I have a clip that I want to play because I'm going 1029 01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:08,250 to be some reference to it later. But I just you know the 1030 01:02:08,310 --> 01:02:12,600 ever since that guy that the blimey character Binney, that 1031 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,120 was the NSA whistleblower from some time ago. 1032 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,740 This is the stellar winds guy. 1033 01:02:18,180 --> 01:02:22,800 Being a bi N anyway. Yeah, this is something else 1034 01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:27,300 wasn't he? The guy who ran it on the stellar when he look it up? 1035 01:02:27,330 --> 01:02:30,390 I don't worry about it. Right. No one cares doesn't anyway, 1036 01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:33,330 but anyway, we had it on he gave me he he's going around giving 1037 01:02:33,330 --> 01:02:38,940 speeches and he talks about he turned whistleblower on 2000 1038 01:02:38,940 --> 01:02:42,270 When he has something to do Oh, illegal spying on the public. 1039 01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:46,890 Same thing is going on now. Yeah. So I mean, these guys know 1040 01:02:46,890 --> 01:02:49,620 what the law is. And they see it being broken and they blow the 1041 01:02:49,620 --> 01:02:53,580 whistle and they get, you know, thrown in jail by the FBI. I 1042 01:02:53,580 --> 01:02:57,240 want to play this a long clip. But this is a rundown because 1043 01:02:57,270 --> 01:02:59,610 we're here in the US of people who have been following this 1044 01:02:59,610 --> 01:03:05,580 worldwide. very notorious criminal name Whitey Bolger was 1045 01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:10,500 arrested about a year or so ago in after he went on the run. He 1046 01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:15,660 was running most of the mob action in Boston, and he's the 1047 01:03:15,690 --> 01:03:18,870 main he's the character that was played by Jack Nicholson in the 1048 01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:24,510 movie departed. And he was involved with the FBI as a 1049 01:03:24,510 --> 01:03:26,910 supposedly an informant, which he denies but he was an 1050 01:03:26,910 --> 01:03:35,190 informant, an FBI, two FBI guys were indicted for being corrupt. 1051 01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:37,770 But it's it seems to me to be deeper than that when it comes 1052 01:03:37,770 --> 01:03:40,290 to the FBI. And the reason I bring this up is because it's 1053 01:03:40,290 --> 01:03:45,510 Binney, who says the one mistake he made as a whistleblower was 1054 01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:49,920 talking to the FBI, because essentially they railroaded him 1055 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:54,900 into something that ended up him being indicted for for espionage 1056 01:03:54,900 --> 01:04:00,150 or whatever. But this this FBI story, I think, really, the FBI 1057 01:04:00,150 --> 01:04:03,300 needs to be called out when this reporter discusses the 1058 01:04:03,300 --> 01:04:06,060 operations, especially the Boston group like this, they 1059 01:04:06,060 --> 01:04:09,840 should be ashamed of themselves. Why do you Bolger are from the 1060 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,590 wrong side of the tracks that criminals themselves. There was 1061 01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:16,650 a corrupt FBI agent named John Morris, who just spent a few 1062 01:04:16,650 --> 01:04:20,430 days on the stand. And these are nefarious people, and 1063 01:04:20,970 --> 01:04:23,760 particularly the Hitman John Maharana, who was up there for 1064 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,410 several days. I described one of my columns that after the first 1065 01:04:28,410 --> 01:04:33,180 two days of his testimony, we were hit by punishing rains. He 1066 01:04:33,180 --> 01:04:36,540 is such a venial, venal and vile man who's admitted to murdering 1067 01:04:36,540 --> 01:04:40,320 20 people that it was almost as if there was a higher power that 1068 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,590 needed to wash us of our having to listen to this guy. But I 1069 01:04:43,590 --> 01:04:46,800 think the most powerful testimony over the last two 1070 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,670 weeks have come from ordinary people. Because there was a myth 1071 01:04:50,700 --> 01:04:53,370 that the government particularly the FBI, and the justice 1072 01:04:53,370 --> 01:04:56,490 department wanted you except when it came to Whitey Bolger is 1073 01:04:56,490 --> 01:04:59,970 that he only killed other criminals. Well, that died on 1074 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,090 waterfront of South Boston with a man named Michael Donahue in 1075 01:05:03,090 --> 01:05:07,440 1982. And his family has been in court every day for the last few 1076 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,370 weeks. And yesterday, John Morris that corrupt FBI agent 1077 01:05:11,490 --> 01:05:15,420 who helped get Michael Donahue murdered, turn to the family and 1078 01:05:15,420 --> 01:05:19,470 apologize to them. Now that murder happened 31 years ago, 1079 01:05:19,500 --> 01:05:22,770 and this is the first time anyone remotely connected to 1080 01:05:22,770 --> 01:05:26,670 this government has apologized to the Donahue family. As Pat 1081 01:05:26,670 --> 01:05:29,760 Donohue, Michael's widow, who raised three boys on her own 1082 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,300 after her husband was murdered with FBI complicity. As she said 1083 01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:39,000 to me, it's a little late for an apology. But and the but if you 1084 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,460 look at the W family, the way they have been dragged through 1085 01:05:41,460 --> 01:05:45,780 the mud by their own government, the idea that the FBI got their 1086 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,300 their husband and their father killed is one thing, but the 1087 01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:52,290 Justice Department refused to apologize to them refused to 1088 01:05:52,290 --> 01:05:54,810 settle with them, drag them through nine years of 1089 01:05:54,810 --> 01:05:59,160 litigation. And so to see that apology in the court was one of 1090 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,160 the most emotional moments and it really had nothing to do with 1091 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,580 testimony. It really wasn't evidence, it was just a sign of 1092 01:06:05,580 --> 01:06:10,920 emotion and humanity in a place where that has been sorely 1093 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:11,430 lacking. 1094 01:06:11,550 --> 01:06:13,560 Now, you're gonna have to explain this to me because I 1095 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,000 kind of lost the plot on it. 1096 01:06:15,510 --> 01:06:20,970 Well, the FBI was in bed with bolger's the problem, okay. And 1097 01:06:20,970 --> 01:06:23,550 they did it because Bolger had convinced them and the movie 1098 01:06:23,820 --> 01:06:28,740 pretty much discusses most of this. They he convinced the FBI 1099 01:06:28,740 --> 01:06:32,340 that he can get a bigger fish at by convincing them that he was 1100 01:06:32,340 --> 01:06:35,040 not a big fish, but he was a great, you're going to be a 1101 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,190 great informant for them. And that's what he did. So he got 1102 01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:41,640 what he managed to do is use the FBI to get rid of his enemy. 1103 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,580 This is not dissimilar for what's going on with the Sinaloa 1104 01:06:44,580 --> 01:06:48,720 Cartel, by the way, right now, as we speak. We're in bed with 1105 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,660 the Sinaloa Cartel thinking we got some something going on. We 1106 01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:55,380 got it over them. But anyway, Bolger was an extremely 1107 01:06:55,380 --> 01:06:58,950 intelligent character using the FBI. And he managed to use the 1108 01:06:58,950 --> 01:07:02,070 FBI, this guy that was murdered, the citizen was going to be 1109 01:07:02,070 --> 01:07:05,970 like, I forget what his basis for Bolger winning in dead but 1110 01:07:05,970 --> 01:07:10,530 the FBI essentially set it up. And then once it was discovered, 1111 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,850 some years back that the FBI was behind the murder of this 1112 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:19,800 innocent civilian, the family went to get some compensation, 1113 01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,690 and then the government went after them. 1114 01:07:23,010 --> 01:07:25,080 That sounds like America. And 1115 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,660 it was just really a disgusting story that people should look 1116 01:07:27,660 --> 01:07:30,480 into. And then the FBI has never explained that the Justice 1117 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,690 Department has never liked Eastlake, the reporter says they 1118 01:07:33,690 --> 01:07:37,290 never even have yet to apologize. They corrupt FBI guy 1119 01:07:37,290 --> 01:07:40,440 apologize on the stand. But because I guess he was getting 1120 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,700 badgered by the prosecution. But whatever the case, it's just a 1121 01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:48,330 really a sad point that this sort of thing takes place. And I 1122 01:07:48,330 --> 01:07:52,200 think is going on now with the with the Sinaloa Cartel. We have 1123 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,530 this dissents. There's a bunch of these law enforcement types 1124 01:07:55,530 --> 01:07:59,700 who have the sense that they're smarter than the bad guys. 1125 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,690 Because the bad guys are under educated or whatever. But in 1126 01:08:03,690 --> 01:08:09,150 most cases they're not. And that this that kind of hubris that is 1127 01:08:09,180 --> 01:08:10,800 that's problematic. I would also 1128 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:17,280 say that most of the recruiting for for the FBI and the CIA, and 1129 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,090 many of the intelligence agencies are done at some of the 1130 01:08:21,420 --> 01:08:24,900 most prestigious universities in the country. And a lot of these 1131 01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:29,400 students are hyped up. I'm sure you've heard the NSA recruiters 1132 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:35,730 going into universities trying, trying to get kids to buy into 1133 01:08:35,730 --> 01:08:38,040 their bullcrap. And they weren't having a Do you hear any of 1134 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:42,090 this? No. Oh, geez. Everyone's heard this. I can't believe I 1135 01:08:42,090 --> 01:08:43,950 would have clipped it if I didn't know you hadn't heard it? 1136 01:08:44,010 --> 01:08:46,260 Well, I don't know that. I'd haven't heard it. But if Yeah, 1137 01:08:46,710 --> 01:08:47,190 no, I don't 1138 01:08:47,190 --> 01:08:49,710 have the clip. But the kids are basically, you know, they're 1139 01:08:49,710 --> 01:08:51,960 saying, Well, wait a minute, you're asking us to spy on 1140 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:56,490 Americans like Well, no, no, we're not really hidden. But 1141 01:08:56,490 --> 01:09:00,150 there's really it's it's beautiful to listen to. But my 1142 01:09:00,150 --> 01:09:03,420 point being, that these recruiters come in, they make 1143 01:09:03,420 --> 01:09:07,110 you feel great. They make you this is what's the Matt Damon 1144 01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:11,670 movie that he wrote that he won the awards for? 1145 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:15,870 Pouring conspiracy? 1146 01:09:16,020 --> 01:09:24,090 No, the first one that Matt and and Matt and Ben. Yeah. Yeah, I 1147 01:09:24,090 --> 01:09:26,760 can't remember the name of that one where they also he's genius. 1148 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,750 He's a genius, genius. They everyone's blowing him to get 1149 01:09:30,750 --> 01:09:33,420 them to work for him. This is what happens and so the hubris 1150 01:09:33,420 --> 01:09:36,780 is built into the process. Like oh, yeah, I'm pretty quick. I'm 1151 01:09:36,780 --> 01:09:39,660 good. I should be working. I should have clearance. Get a 1152 01:09:39,660 --> 01:09:44,190 badge. Get some funky makeup shoot somebody you get like all 1153 01:09:44,190 --> 01:09:48,720 kinds of passes could challenge coins. I get a chance 1154 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,840 to get that dough challenge going to oh, now by the way. Did 1155 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,210 you get anybody out there who has one or can get one? 1156 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,890 Did you get the NSA challenge coin? 1157 01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,530 Yeah, I did get that challenge. I was contacting the anonymous 1158 01:09:58,530 --> 01:10:00,570 person who sent it to me by the MSA 1159 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,700 did it say W A wy? 1160 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,780 On the note? This the same coin you have but I apparently 1161 01:10:09,780 --> 01:10:15,630 you got to note this A W A wy. Okay. Did you get a note that 1162 01:10:15,630 --> 01:10:16,230 said that? 1163 01:10:16,770 --> 01:10:20,190 Not that I remember. Interesting. And that's to go 1164 01:10:20,190 --> 01:10:22,680 get the coin. Anyway stands for 1165 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:23,820 we are watching you 1166 01:10:26,340 --> 01:10:32,940 and have to go get the coin. It's funny though. Yeah. It's 1167 01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:38,130 hilarious. Yeah. They didn't get that coin on eBay for $14.95. So 1168 01:10:38,910 --> 01:10:42,270 Wow. Banks are gonna say contact has dried up. 1169 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,390 The coin. i One is what's the name of the new guy, the 1170 01:10:45,930 --> 01:10:47,940 Secretary of Defense. What's his name? 1171 01:10:48,570 --> 01:11:02,220 Hilger. Hold hold. Yeah, it's dressed in. Dumbo? I know. I 1172 01:11:02,220 --> 01:11:06,180 know who you mean, I know who you mean, the Secretary of 1173 01:11:06,180 --> 01:11:07,680 Defense. Yeah. 1174 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,940 You can't even get his name or typing it into Wikipedia. 1175 01:11:12,599 --> 01:11:14,819 What do you mean? Of course you can. No, I 1176 01:11:14,820 --> 01:11:15,960 mean, you Chuck Hagel. 1177 01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:17,550 That's what I said Hagel. 1178 01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:22,470 Who's the guy that's the head of the CIA then? Well, whatever we 1179 01:11:22,470 --> 01:11:25,980 either the CIA guy, the new CIA or Hegel, I think is Hegel. They 1180 01:11:25,980 --> 01:11:29,100 have their own challenge coin. is not as though it's like the 1181 01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:33,720 kind of the one you have with the signed some. Yeah, I get a 1182 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,090 signature, but this one doesn't even say that what they're 1183 01:11:36,090 --> 01:11:38,460 doing. It's just their coin. I think we should have individual 1184 01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:41,160 coins. Uh, Adam curry challenge coin. 1185 01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:44,880 Yeah. Okay, that's we need more. We need more annoying things 1186 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,130 that have to send through the mail. This is a great idea. I 1187 01:11:47,130 --> 01:11:49,770 can't do it. We're not gonna do it anyway. So just just throw it 1188 01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:52,650 out. Throw this stuff out. You should. We got an email from 1189 01:11:52,650 --> 01:11:54,930 some guy. Do you have the email? That guy says that he used to 1190 01:11:54,930 --> 01:11:57,780 work for Alec? And he believes 1191 01:11:57,810 --> 01:12:03,630 Yes. And I found this to be very interesting. So Alec stands for? 1192 01:12:04,050 --> 01:12:06,390 What is it? The abbreviation of it's the 1193 01:12:06,420 --> 01:12:10,410 American the legislature exchanged? Some 1194 01:12:10,650 --> 01:12:13,530 right and essentially, oh, again, there are Bill mill, 1195 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,920 essentially what they do Bill mill is they Yeah, is they sit 1196 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,060 around and they and they 1197 01:12:18,060 --> 01:12:21,360 wait for legislative exchange council, 1198 01:12:21,389 --> 01:12:23,909 right. They sit around and they wait for an opportunity where 1199 01:12:23,909 --> 01:12:28,439 they think they can deliver the goods to their members, which 1200 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,989 are essentially large corporations. And then they 1201 01:12:30,989 --> 01:12:34,979 draft legislation and through their donations and their 1202 01:12:34,979 --> 01:12:39,539 systems and through lobbying. They get the legislation entered 1203 01:12:39,539 --> 01:12:42,689 enacted or you know, sometimes pass enacted a study by state, 1204 01:12:42,779 --> 01:12:45,839 state by state and he sent a note and said, Look, I used to 1205 01:12:45,839 --> 01:12:49,349 work for Alec and I think that you're onto something here with 1206 01:12:49,349 --> 01:12:51,809 this abortion legislation and being the same in all these 1207 01:12:51,809 --> 01:12:55,469 different states, including Texas and North Carolina. And 1208 01:12:55,469 --> 01:12:59,069 not only is the legislation eerily similar when it comes to 1209 01:12:59,069 --> 01:13:03,449 the the the level of sophistication the clinics will 1210 01:13:03,449 --> 01:13:07,589 have to have. But it was also introduced in a stealthy way 1211 01:13:07,589 --> 01:13:11,219 here in Texas in a special session, which is weird, 1212 01:13:11,609 --> 01:13:14,399 certainly for something as controversial as this and in 1213 01:13:14,399 --> 01:13:18,149 North Carolina was attached to some bill that was about banning 1214 01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:22,529 Sharia law. So it's kind of being introduced stealthily. And 1215 01:13:22,529 --> 01:13:27,329 I went and looked and lo and behold, this legislation called 1216 01:13:27,329 --> 01:13:33,359 the man I got it here. It's something like the the the right 1217 01:13:33,359 --> 01:13:41,159 the something about the clinics is was written for Republicans 1218 01:13:41,399 --> 01:13:46,409 to introduce. And and you know, my theory is Yeah, because 1219 01:13:46,409 --> 01:13:49,769 somehow the next step is to figure out how how to use public 1220 01:13:49,769 --> 01:13:53,309 funds for it to give to the insurance companies or to 1221 01:13:53,309 --> 01:13:56,759 Medicaid and it'll be a bonanza and your $500, abortion will go 1222 01:13:56,759 --> 01:14:01,649 to 5000. And you can just count out the money. It's going to be 1223 01:14:01,649 --> 01:14:02,279 huge. 1224 01:14:03,660 --> 01:14:08,250 It's about the money. So it turns out I have a clip. It 1225 01:14:08,250 --> 01:14:11,550 turns out that Alex has all kinds of 1226 01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:15,360 preborn pain act that's what it's called the pre pre born 1227 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:16,350 pain act. 1228 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,150 Alec is behind all the stuff that you do every single can 1229 01:14:21,150 --> 01:14:23,850 take photos. They're the Antifa they're the ones that are 1230 01:14:23,940 --> 01:14:27,300 working on legislation so you can't take photos of wrongdoing 1231 01:14:27,570 --> 01:14:30,930 especially in the in the food business. 1232 01:14:31,020 --> 01:14:35,160 Oh right. Well, you can take pictures of of cows being led to 1233 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,160 slaughter and the chicken houses that kind of legislation. 1234 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,070 Yeah, well here with let me play two clips and I'll play the Alec 1235 01:14:41,070 --> 01:14:44,790 clip. Yes, exactly. Play the first start with the Amy Myers 1236 01:14:44,790 --> 01:14:45,420 story. 1237 01:14:46,590 --> 01:14:47,970 Okay, do you need to lead in. 1238 01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:51,720 Now we had just a strip woman that was arrested for taking 1239 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,290 photos and they'd luckily a bunch of social media got her 1240 01:14:55,290 --> 01:14:57,450 out of prison or out of out of jail 1241 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:03,270 example of this of how toxic sunshine is, to this industry 1242 01:15:03,270 --> 01:15:06,540 into these bills is the first prosecution, which happened in 1243 01:15:06,540 --> 01:15:08,940 Utah. This was the first prosecution under any of this 1244 01:15:08,940 --> 01:15:14,460 legislation. A woman named Amy Meyer was charged for filming a 1245 01:15:14,460 --> 01:15:19,110 slaughterhouse from the public easement. She went to this place 1246 01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:23,070 because she knew abuse was happening, she heard that cows 1247 01:15:23,070 --> 01:15:25,920 were being pushed around by bulldozers, much like that 1248 01:15:26,010 --> 01:15:28,440 situation that led to the largest meat recall in US 1249 01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:32,520 history. So she had a reasonable interest in seeing what was 1250 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,520 happening. I have a video I'll be putting up in the next couple 1251 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,750 of days on my site. But it shows, you know, heavy equipment 1252 01:15:39,780 --> 01:15:44,070 using Moving the stick animals. And she was charged under this 1253 01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:49,140 legislation. And so I wrote an article about it, I put it up on 1254 01:15:49,140 --> 01:15:52,320 my own website. And within 24 hours, it was getting hundreds 1255 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:57,600 of 1000s of views, went up on Reddit and brought the site down 1256 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,320 because it was getting several 100 unique visitors a second for 1257 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:05,040 several hours. So within 24 hours after this, it just made 1258 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,860 the rounds everywhere. I know that word viral doesn't mean a 1259 01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:10,770 whole lot anymore. I think this legitimately went viral pretty 1260 01:16:10,770 --> 01:16:13,710 fast. The prosecutor was like we're gonna drop all the 1261 01:16:13,710 --> 01:16:18,240 charges. So think about what that reflects. I mean, this is 1262 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,510 criminal activity up until the point people know what's going 1263 01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:24,330 on it get pissed off about it. And then it's Oh, no, no, no, 1264 01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:27,480 no, we didn't mean to do that. Amy Myers not going to be 1265 01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:28,110 prosecuted. 1266 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,350 But this is tells me is that the guys are putting laws on the 1267 01:16:34,350 --> 01:16:37,500 books, just to screw with people. But if there isn't 1268 01:16:37,530 --> 01:16:41,250 enough people find out about it. There's such an outrage that 1269 01:16:41,250 --> 01:16:43,770 these guys back off real quick, which means these are really, 1270 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,890 really sketchy laws that shouldn't even be on the books 1271 01:16:46,890 --> 01:16:50,490 and somehow some buddy rammed them through play this other 1272 01:16:50,490 --> 01:16:52,860 one, which is no photos of farmers. 1273 01:16:54,450 --> 01:17:00,030 Okay, stuck here moment. Sorry, here we 1274 01:17:00,030 --> 01:17:04,380 go closed doors. So the response to these damning investigations 1275 01:17:04,380 --> 01:17:08,760 by industry has not been to change animal welfare standards, 1276 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,510 or to change the most abusive practices. It's meant to outlaw 1277 01:17:12,510 --> 01:17:16,350 the people who are exposing them. So last year, there were 1278 01:17:16,350 --> 01:17:20,010 10 Bill bills introduced that specifically criminalize 1279 01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,650 undercover investigations of factory farms and 1280 01:17:22,650 --> 01:17:26,190 slaughterhouses that include language, which I'll talk about 1281 01:17:26,190 --> 01:17:29,610 in a moment, a moment about banning foot photography, 1282 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,450 banning videotape, and enhanced criminal penalties for that. 1283 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,440 There's actually passed in several states in Iowa, Utah and 1284 01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:40,080 Missouri, which are green on this map here. Yeah, we've 1285 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,050 talked about that a couple of times. Alright, so now play a 1286 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:44,760 clip. Y'all heard 1287 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,730 of ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council, 1288 01:17:47,730 --> 01:17:51,300 it's kind of a kind of a well known group, especially in 1289 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:56,550 conferences like this. Alec in 2003, drafted a piece of model 1290 01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:59,610 legislation called the animal and ecological Terrorism Act. 1291 01:18:00,810 --> 01:18:03,510 And Alec, for those of you who don't know, it's a corporate 1292 01:18:03,510 --> 01:18:05,910 front group. And the way it operates is corporations give 1293 01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:09,780 10s of 1000s of dollars to the organization. And in exchange 1294 01:18:09,780 --> 01:18:12,480 for that they get a seat at the table in drafting model 1295 01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:15,930 legislation. And then those model bills are taken back by 1296 01:18:15,930 --> 01:18:19,740 state lawmakers around the country and introduce where 1297 01:18:19,740 --> 01:18:22,470 their colleagues have no idea that they're actually written by 1298 01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:27,240 Pfizer, Wyatt GlaxoSmithKline. And its association exactly what 1299 01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:31,800 Santo and Ron the union busting bills in Wisconsin, where Alec 1300 01:18:31,860 --> 01:18:34,740 the standard ground bills in Florida. So this animal and 1301 01:18:34,740 --> 01:18:38,700 ecological Terrorism Act was written by these industries. And 1302 01:18:38,700 --> 01:18:42,060 the model bill includes things like undercover investigations. 1303 01:18:42,750 --> 01:18:45,090 It also includes really dangerous language about 1304 01:18:45,090 --> 01:18:49,290 materially or financially supporting people who are doing 1305 01:18:49,290 --> 01:18:52,740 things like this in order to encourage plan, prepare, carry 1306 01:18:52,740 --> 01:18:56,370 out, publicize or promote these activities. This kind of 1307 01:18:56,370 --> 01:18:59,400 material support language is not just about undercover 1308 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,790 investigators. It's not just about arsonists, or the Animal 1309 01:19:02,790 --> 01:19:05,880 Liberation Front. It's about people like us, I mean, that 1310 01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,450 make absolutely no mistake about the intent of this language. 1311 01:19:09,450 --> 01:19:13,650 It's about people who are sharing this information online 1312 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,280 and writing about it and people like me who are speaking out in 1313 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:21,270 defense of political prisoners. This all has to be viewed in 1314 01:19:21,300 --> 01:19:25,770 this post 911 context. This is from a Freedom of Information 1315 01:19:25,770 --> 01:19:29,550 Act document obtained from the FBI that says the bureau was 1316 01:19:29,550 --> 01:19:32,610 actually considering terrorism prosecutions against undercover 1317 01:19:32,610 --> 01:19:37,410 investigators as far back as 2003. This was even before new 1318 01:19:37,410 --> 01:19:39,960 legislation called the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act was 1319 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:44,670 passed. Again, this isn't about property destruction. It's not 1320 01:19:44,670 --> 01:19:49,890 about arson is about people taking photographs. This is from 1321 01:19:49,890 --> 01:19:54,990 another FOIA request. These were presentations given by the FBI 1322 01:19:55,020 --> 01:19:59,970 to new FBI special agents. This is one page on animal rights and 1323 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,860 Echo activists, and notice the emphasis on information about 1324 01:20:04,860 --> 01:20:08,670 them being engaged in a public relations war, how media is 1325 01:20:08,670 --> 01:20:12,240 vital to every part of their campaigns. God forbid media 1326 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:16,230 sometimes is even slanted in their favor. And sometimes they 1327 01:20:16,230 --> 01:20:20,910 use celebrities. This rhetoric, in addition to being a top FBI 1328 01:20:20,910 --> 01:20:25,470 priority of terrorism threat, it's also been embraced by 1329 01:20:25,470 --> 01:20:29,850 corporations and of course, politicians, when that meat 1330 01:20:29,850 --> 01:20:34,560 recall happened in California, and soon after, another 1331 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,130 investigation shut down a slaughterhouse. The industry put 1332 01:20:38,130 --> 01:20:42,510 pressure on local lawmakers, members of Congress, who in turn 1333 01:20:42,510 --> 01:20:45,810 sent a letter to the USDA, in which they said undercover 1334 01:20:45,810 --> 01:20:49,410 investigations were an act of quote, economic terrorism. 1335 01:20:49,769 --> 01:20:55,979 Okay, help me understand it so far, it sounds pretty much like 1336 01:20:55,979 --> 01:21:01,049 the American way. I'm not quite sure how the FBI gets sucked 1337 01:21:01,049 --> 01:21:01,709 into this. 1338 01:21:02,190 --> 01:21:04,830 I don't know how they got sucked into it either. But apparently, 1339 01:21:04,830 --> 01:21:09,090 the these guys have put together packages these industry industry 1340 01:21:09,090 --> 01:21:12,270 guys have put together these packages. And they make such a 1341 01:21:12,330 --> 01:21:16,470 this is lobbyists. Yeah. And they make such a fuss that the 1342 01:21:16,770 --> 01:21:21,030 legislative branch of the government tells the FBI or 1343 01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:23,940 gives them a clip, you know, they'd like to arrest everyone 1344 01:21:24,870 --> 01:21:27,870 says, Look, this is terrorism. And they make the argument that 1345 01:21:27,870 --> 01:21:31,680 it's terrorism. These guys and these are the various angles. 1346 01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:36,420 This guy came onto our facility at posing as a as a worker, and 1347 01:21:36,420 --> 01:21:39,630 all he did was take pictures, and then he exposed us. This is 1348 01:21:39,630 --> 01:21:41,580 terrorism. He's they're terrorizing they're hurting 1349 01:21:41,610 --> 01:21:45,270 business. They're hurting the bottom line. And now we take it 1350 01:21:45,270 --> 01:21:48,120 to another extreme, which is the one that really bothers me. Oh, 1351 01:21:48,150 --> 01:21:51,210 did you read this that these guys wrote? They wrote in 1352 01:21:51,210 --> 01:21:55,710 defense of this guy who was working for us taking pictures 1353 01:21:55,710 --> 01:22:00,180 and making us look bad to he's he's a terrorist is this writer? 1354 01:22:00,690 --> 01:22:04,350 Yeah, seriously, this is where this is all headed. Yes. And 1355 01:22:04,380 --> 01:22:09,690 ALEC is and you brought this you discovered this by bringing up 1356 01:22:09,690 --> 01:22:13,410 the abortion deal. And then having the our guy come in with 1357 01:22:13,410 --> 01:22:16,860 the aleck note notation which I forgot all about Alec. Yeah, me 1358 01:22:16,860 --> 01:22:20,250 too. And then I coincidentally listening to C span caught this 1359 01:22:20,250 --> 01:22:23,580 little Alec clip. And I'm thinking this is this needs to 1360 01:22:23,580 --> 01:22:25,410 be exposed. This is horrible. 1361 01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:28,530 But a lot of people are trying to expose Alec I think that's 1362 01:22:28,530 --> 01:22:33,840 pretty futile because it is it is the biggest companies on 1363 01:22:34,230 --> 01:22:38,910 board makes me kind of laugh. Is that it? In many ways it plays 1364 01:22:38,910 --> 01:22:41,760 right into what people actually want and the end their anger and 1365 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:47,010 outrage is being used to get what they think they want. And 1366 01:22:47,010 --> 01:22:51,060 let me elaborate. Oh, man, we had so we had another dinner 1367 01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:56,400 with one of our average first or before after dinner. It's a part 1368 01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,550 of it. Okay, it's a part of the dinner. We will wrap it up. 1369 01:22:59,550 --> 01:23:02,730 Yeah, the reason why. Okay, so I'm going to jump around in the 1370 01:23:02,730 --> 01:23:06,270 dinner. There were two so this is the Obama bought dinners that 1371 01:23:06,270 --> 01:23:11,430 we have which are turning out to be this our table mates are 1372 01:23:11,490 --> 01:23:14,460 moving away from Obama botanists and I've got to be careful 1373 01:23:14,460 --> 01:23:17,340 because you know, once they're converted will be no more fun. 1374 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,260 And why cuz dad? Got three, isn't it this group? test group 1375 01:23:22,260 --> 01:23:22,620 three, 1376 01:23:22,650 --> 01:23:26,490 this is the original group to the test group. Yes, this is 1377 01:23:26,490 --> 01:23:33,120 test specimens A, we have a Lorien mark. And then we have 1378 01:23:33,210 --> 01:23:38,490 Ross and his wife, Jennifer and Russia will recall is the 1379 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:43,320 professor of brain shit here at University of Texas. He's a he's 1380 01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:47,580 a brain professor. Now he's, I guess technically his boss, the 1381 01:23:47,580 --> 01:23:51,030 chair of the Psychology Department of University of 1382 01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:54,810 Texas joined our group. And by the way, how cool is this? That 1383 01:23:54,810 --> 01:23:57,960 a drop out this jockey gets to argue with these people for 1384 01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:59,790 free? Like no tuition. 1385 01:24:00,690 --> 01:24:04,200 When you have to pay to argue and I get fed is great. Yeah. 1386 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,390 Well, you you're doing the cooking this time? No, no, this 1387 01:24:06,390 --> 01:24:09,870 was a Lori's house. No, she did the cooking. Okay. Yeah. And now 1388 01:24:09,900 --> 01:24:14,010 we'll we'll talk about Jamie Pennebaker later because Jamie 1389 01:24:14,010 --> 01:24:17,280 is the performative guy. He's about the you know, he's the 1390 01:24:17,610 --> 01:24:20,790 secret life of pronouns, the performance, and we heard his 1391 01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:24,750 his tape and I got to talk to him about that. His wife is Ruth 1392 01:24:24,750 --> 01:24:29,970 Pennebaker. She has written wow, I think five or six books that 1393 01:24:29,970 --> 01:24:33,720 have been published. She's written extensively for the New 1394 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:38,760 York Times a lot in the Art section, but she's a I can I can 1395 01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:43,470 say she is a very outspoken feminist. And to give you an 1396 01:24:43,470 --> 01:24:50,580 idea, she was she's very much. She talks like a Hummer, like a 1397 01:24:50,580 --> 01:24:55,980 Berkeley Hummer. In fact, she has that New York Times kind of 1398 01:24:56,010 --> 01:24:59,580 cadence to her. What's interesting about you, what in 1399 01:24:59,580 --> 01:25:02,760 the milieu Yes, indeed. What's interesting about Ruth is that 1400 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:07,140 she not only she blogged but she was at the protest and I think 1401 01:25:07,140 --> 01:25:14,100 she was arrested. Because she had a coat hanger. Now, Ruth, I 1402 01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:17,970 don't know how old she is, and I don't care to guess, but I will 1403 01:25:17,970 --> 01:25:20,820 say that she is at least two years older than I am. So that 1404 01:25:20,820 --> 01:25:27,030 would put her at a minimum of 50. And, and I was not about for 1405 01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:30,570 single minute going to really get into my, my personal 1406 01:25:30,570 --> 01:25:35,100 feelings about this issue. Because I think I probably would 1407 01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:38,190 have ruined the night at the get go towards Marino, you 1408 01:25:38,190 --> 01:25:46,980 have to I, I admire your ability to manage this, because I tend 1409 01:25:46,980 --> 01:25:50,400 to in these situations, I just I just clam up. I'm the worst guy 1410 01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:51,180 to be at this thing. 1411 01:25:52,380 --> 01:25:54,870 Well, I had done a lot of homework, I had read their 1412 01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:58,140 books. I had read it, you know, I'd read his book, or read her 1413 01:25:58,140 --> 01:26:00,810 book, or at least one, you know, her columns. So I already knew 1414 01:26:00,810 --> 01:26:03,510 kind of what I was getting into. And you can't walk into these 1415 01:26:03,510 --> 01:26:06,480 situations. And think that because people don't listen, 1416 01:26:06,510 --> 01:26:09,330 this is the main thing. And it became true. I don't think she 1417 01:26:09,330 --> 01:26:14,220 really heard me. When I did lay down my, my smack on her. I 1418 01:26:14,220 --> 01:26:15,900 said, Oh, you know, I think this is great, because I've been 1419 01:26:15,900 --> 01:26:20,040 following this. And it looks to me, like, you know, this 20 1420 01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:24,360 pages of legislation about the about the clinics. And by the 1421 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,570 way, she had not read the bill. I will point that out. It's 1422 01:26:27,570 --> 01:26:30,210 like, Oh, that's interesting. You went to protest something 1423 01:26:30,210 --> 01:26:34,680 you had not read? She? Did you wear an orange t shirt? Yeah, 1424 01:26:34,710 --> 01:26:36,510 where did it come from? I don't know, someone's handing them 1425 01:26:36,510 --> 01:26:40,470 out. The Planned Parenthood, who was handed to us need to know 1426 01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:43,230 these things. Because it's, it's a big money. Planned Parenthood 1427 01:26:43,620 --> 01:26:48,000 has an annual income of $155 million dollars, I checked their 1428 01:26:48,030 --> 01:26:52,410 form 990. So there's a lot of money involved in, in this 1429 01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:55,410 abortion business. And a lot of people want it for one reason or 1430 01:26:55,410 --> 01:26:58,830 the other. And I'm not so sure necessarily about protecting 1431 01:26:58,860 --> 01:27:03,540 unborn life or or protecting a woman's rights. I'm just not 1432 01:27:03,540 --> 01:27:06,570 convinced I don't, I've never seen any legislator really give 1433 01:27:06,570 --> 01:27:10,410 a shit about the citizenry, it's all about money. And I said, I 1434 01:27:10,410 --> 01:27:12,540 think it's going to be a bonanza, and they're setting it 1435 01:27:12,540 --> 01:27:14,370 up. And we've got this everywhere in the States. And 1436 01:27:14,370 --> 01:27:17,580 ALEC is the bill mill is writing this stuff. And it's gonna be 1437 01:27:17,580 --> 01:27:20,760 great poor women everywhere will be able to get abortions. It's 1438 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,940 just it's gonna be $5,000 bill to the insurance and ultimately, 1439 01:27:23,940 --> 01:27:27,390 we'll all pay for it. And it's funny, it really didn't even 1440 01:27:27,390 --> 01:27:31,290 register. I could see it was just kind of flying by. But 1441 01:27:31,290 --> 01:27:36,510 here's what I learned. Almost no one at this protest was under 1442 01:27:36,510 --> 01:27:40,920 50. Now, what's wrong with that? 1443 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,310 Yeah. Is that like they're having babies? Thank you. 1444 01:27:45,390 --> 01:27:51,000 And I kind of probed the little bit and I said, I'm nowhere in 1445 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,630 the bill, which I actually read, does it this is later during the 1446 01:27:54,630 --> 01:27:58,620 dinner, not off the bat. I said, I read the bill. And I had all 1447 01:27:58,620 --> 01:28:01,020 these requirements. But yeah, that's gonna make it all these. 1448 01:28:01,500 --> 01:28:06,690 All these clinics shut down. I said, How do you know? Well, 1449 01:28:06,690 --> 01:28:10,560 this fact. Oh, you're accepting the math. We don't actually know 1450 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,610 the calculation. Yeah, and I went looking, John, I cannot 1451 01:28:14,610 --> 01:28:19,260 find I see. Graphics, I see maps, I see maps with pinpoints 1452 01:28:19,260 --> 01:28:21,900 and flashing lights, and you see, you can use you like 50. 1453 01:28:21,900 --> 01:28:25,410 And then they all go away. And it's only six left as like, 1454 01:28:25,410 --> 01:28:29,550 okay. But yeah, and then, you know, this was designed to shut 1455 01:28:29,550 --> 01:28:32,700 down clinics. No, it was designed to if you'd look at it, 1456 01:28:32,700 --> 01:28:35,790 and this is what I love with professors at the table. And by 1457 01:28:35,790 --> 01:28:39,150 the way, Mr. Pennebaker had listened to some of our show, 1458 01:28:39,150 --> 01:28:43,080 and he loves it. He's like, Oh, you guys are great. I love this. 1459 01:28:43,260 --> 01:28:45,810 Because he actually said, You're fucking great. I love this shit. 1460 01:28:46,170 --> 01:28:48,780 He believes that when people use swear words, they're more 1461 01:28:48,780 --> 01:28:53,010 honest. So I think he uses them a lot. Just gratuitously more 1462 01:28:53,010 --> 01:28:55,380 than most people not gratuitously but when he really 1463 01:28:55,380 --> 01:28:58,170 wants to accentuate a point he says it comes across he's an 1464 01:28:58,170 --> 01:29:01,260 expert, he's a linguist, he's people you're more believable if 1465 01:29:01,260 --> 01:29:04,830 you use swear words. I'm just a point a small point I want to 1466 01:29:04,830 --> 01:29:08,880 throw out there but when you're talking to a scientist it's very 1467 01:29:08,910 --> 01:29:11,310 it's great because now I've learned you can say Oh, really? 1468 01:29:11,340 --> 01:29:14,790 Do you have the calculation? No said Well, it's actually not in 1469 01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:17,970 the bill it nowhere does it say this bill intends to shut down 1470 01:29:17,970 --> 01:29:23,010 clinics. So you are just making a you are, you are regurgitating 1471 01:29:23,010 --> 01:29:26,190 talking points of which you have no scientific or mathematical 1472 01:29:26,190 --> 01:29:31,680 fact. Have you ever seen a professor Shut up? Because you 1473 01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:32,940 just said something like that? 1474 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,880 Well, if you say something like that, and it's true, they would 1475 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:36,870 shut up now and 1476 01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:39,780 then of course Ross the brain professor. He hands me this 1477 01:29:39,780 --> 01:29:43,440 article about the eat right for your blood type. Oh, man, I'm 1478 01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:46,680 totally shut down on that. Oh, I destroyed it. 1479 01:29:48,660 --> 01:29:49,470 Well, I didn't think 1480 01:29:50,340 --> 01:29:53,190 nothing about the whole backs everything is wrong about it. 1481 01:29:53,190 --> 01:29:56,820 The whole backstory, everything and he like he must have worked 1482 01:29:56,820 --> 01:29:59,220 for you know, a week on researching these. I'm gonna get 1483 01:29:59,220 --> 01:30:04,260 this curry I don't care. I'm gonna find it. No. And he has. I 1484 01:30:04,260 --> 01:30:07,110 put it in the show notes. So I'm pretty sure that that was a 1485 01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:11,640 placebo effect. But ultimately, yeah, don't don't eat grains, 1486 01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,080 you'll be healthier. That's for sure. 1487 01:30:13,650 --> 01:30:16,140 Yeah, yeah, that's I think, absolutely true. So 1488 01:30:16,140 --> 01:30:19,680 the main thing is, and this kind of, to bring it back to ALEC, is 1489 01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,190 that there's big money involved in this particular legislation. 1490 01:30:23,340 --> 01:30:28,320 And I, look, we put in God, we trust on our money here in 1491 01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,380 America, okay, there's a reason for that the money is bigger 1492 01:30:31,380 --> 01:30:34,740 than God, I'm sorry, I'm just not buying it. And then when I'm 1493 01:30:34,740 --> 01:30:37,950 seeing all the money that is being spent, by the way, Wendy 1494 01:30:37,950 --> 01:30:42,000 Davis, who is now being heralded as the rising political star who 1495 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:45,570 has been born, I looked at her funding, and you know, it's 1496 01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,320 $500,000. From this law firm, it's all these law firms that 1497 01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,890 are expert at suing the government. And they have, they 1498 01:30:52,890 --> 01:30:56,100 have essentially financed a lot of what she's been doing in the 1499 01:30:56,100 --> 01:31:01,170 past, in the past year. So there's a lot of interest in 1500 01:31:01,170 --> 01:31:04,410 this. And again, I thoroughly believe that it's all going to 1501 01:31:04,410 --> 01:31:08,220 come down to something that is really going to be Republican 1502 01:31:08,220 --> 01:31:12,780 led, that will be the joke of it all Republican led, and it will 1503 01:31:12,810 --> 01:31:16,650 bring in some kind of financing for abortions. And really, we're 1504 01:31:16,650 --> 01:31:21,300 not, we're talking about a very small amount of actual vaginal 1505 01:31:21,300 --> 01:31:27,780 abortions. Most of this is ru 486. It's a pill it goes in, you 1506 01:31:27,780 --> 01:31:30,270 know, two weeks later, everything's done. It's 1507 01:31:30,270 --> 01:31:33,840 relatively safe. It's highly controversial, but it's been 1508 01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,780 around for a long time. I don't think it's in patent anymore. 1509 01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,660 And that's what we're really talking about. And it's right 1510 01:31:39,660 --> 01:31:43,320 now it's 500 bucks, that's too cheap. You can't really do 1511 01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,690 anything with that needs to be 5000. And that 1512 01:31:45,690 --> 01:31:49,080 is the same thing with a lot of these manufacturing chemists. 1513 01:31:49,470 --> 01:31:54,510 Yes, with the compounders a drug for the person customized at the 1514 01:31:54,510 --> 01:31:58,080 manufacturers, but it's too cheap. Yeah, no good. Like why 1515 01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,950 should we be selling anyone drugs that they need to survive 1516 01:32:02,340 --> 01:32:06,630 for like, five bucks a month? Don't do that himself for 2000 a 1517 01:32:06,630 --> 01:32:08,670 month? Don't do that. This is no good. 1518 01:32:09,300 --> 01:32:13,650 No, let's just gouge the public. Especially when that when it's 1519 01:32:13,710 --> 01:32:18,270 when it's kind of a cap, captive market just gouge them gouge 1520 01:32:18,270 --> 01:32:19,320 gouged out and also 1521 01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:23,940 rate but then here, but here's what the big tip off John. It's 1522 01:32:23,940 --> 01:32:26,310 not actually the women who need these abortions who were 1523 01:32:26,310 --> 01:32:29,850 protesting. So what does that tell you? And this is the 1524 01:32:29,850 --> 01:32:33,960 discussion we got and rigged. Well, it's worse than that. And 1525 01:32:33,990 --> 01:32:37,350 because I did lay a little bit of because Jennifer who was 1526 01:32:37,350 --> 01:32:39,900 there and now she's protested this before not this particular 1527 01:32:39,900 --> 01:32:43,200 time, but she's pregnant. And she's really really angry. You 1528 01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,720 know, this whole Get out of my vagina thing. What are you doing 1529 01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:52,140 in my womb, and you and I can feel a a huge surge of emotion 1530 01:32:52,440 --> 01:32:57,510 that's funneled that's channeled into this. But it's a lot a lot 1531 01:32:57,510 --> 01:32:59,670 more, you know, it's just you know, people are crazy these 1532 01:32:59,670 --> 01:33:01,920 days. They're angry, they're upset, they're pressured by all 1533 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:06,360 kinds of things. But it's a trigger. And I think this is a 1534 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,660 long this is kind of the Republican version or maybe it's 1535 01:33:09,660 --> 01:33:11,910 all Democrat. I don't know who gives a crap which one it is. 1536 01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,730 This is only about getting your vote. It's about getting your 1537 01:33:14,730 --> 01:33:19,470 vote, just like the gun issue. And and it's about getting the 1538 01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:24,900 the upper middle aged woman's vote. I don't think it's about 1539 01:33:24,900 --> 01:33:28,770 anything else. And it's an to realize this bill is not really 1540 01:33:28,770 --> 01:33:32,820 forbidding anything. There's no real change. You're listening to 1541 01:33:32,820 --> 01:33:34,950 talking points and you're getting riled up and you're 1542 01:33:34,950 --> 01:33:38,610 getting angry and then you're walking around with coat hangers 1543 01:33:38,610 --> 01:33:40,920 and you're not you don't you never even tend to get pregnant 1544 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:44,340 anymore. Do you see that you're being manipulated all men all 1545 01:33:44,340 --> 01:33:46,110 that that got everyone into a tizzy. 1546 01:33:46,950 --> 01:33:48,180 Once you said that, 1547 01:33:48,180 --> 01:33:50,490 yes. I had to. I had to 1548 01:33:50,580 --> 01:33:52,740 just but it was late in the meal. Yes. This way. 1549 01:33:53,309 --> 01:33:58,649 Yes. This was much later in the meal. Oh, God, I had everyone. 1550 01:33:58,649 --> 01:34:01,229 Oh my god, that was alright. It was alright. But it was a little 1551 01:34:01,229 --> 01:34:01,499 tan. I 1552 01:34:01,710 --> 01:34:04,920 bet you there's high fives and some PR agency as we speak. 1553 01:34:05,550 --> 01:34:09,810 Curry data? Yeah. Oh, no. Now, you know, I'm talking about over 1554 01:34:09,810 --> 01:34:10,500 this event. 1555 01:34:11,370 --> 01:34:16,110 Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, totally, totally. And if you look at the 1556 01:34:16,140 --> 01:34:20,910 the people involved, it's, I mean, wow, Cecile Richards, who 1557 01:34:20,910 --> 01:34:25,080 was an Richard's daughter, and Richards, who was here before 1558 01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:29,070 George W. Texas was run by Democrats, you'd be, you'd be 1559 01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:33,210 amazed to know. And she makes half a million dollars at this 1560 01:34:33,210 --> 01:34:35,610 Planned Parenthood thing. It's a big operation. And there's all 1561 01:34:35,610 --> 01:34:40,470 kinds of all kinds of things going on with this. But I really 1562 01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:45,540 have to say it is manipulation of people, getting them using 1563 01:34:45,540 --> 01:34:49,830 their, their utmost fears and desires and angers and man you 1564 01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:52,440 can get you can get women really, really angry about this 1565 01:34:52,440 --> 01:34:57,030 issue very easily. And you can't you can't just say well, I think 1566 01:34:57,030 --> 01:35:00,300 X Y or Z certainly not as a guy, because then I was Then you're 1567 01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:04,740 just shit. No Did she she you can actually get beat up over 1568 01:35:04,740 --> 01:35:08,010 this you have to be very, very careful. So I come back from the 1569 01:35:08,010 --> 01:35:12,420 front saying it was not a pretty pretty sight. I do need to bring 1570 01:35:12,420 --> 01:35:14,700 you some more reports from this dinner because there were some 1571 01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:17,610 other interesting things we discussed a particularly with 1572 01:35:17,670 --> 01:35:23,670 Professor Pennebaker who I was, you know, you kind of eased into 1573 01:35:23,670 --> 01:35:28,650 it, kinda let them know that I'd read his book. And I said, you 1574 01:35:28,650 --> 01:35:32,010 know, this performance that was really quite, quite fantastic. 1575 01:35:32,010 --> 01:35:35,400 And he's just launched into it. He told everything. No one knew 1576 01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,340 what I was talking about except Mickey. And then so he explained 1577 01:35:38,340 --> 01:35:42,120 explains performative. And for those who don't know, it's where 1578 01:35:42,270 --> 01:35:45,030 typically a politician will say things like, let me be clear. 1579 01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,420 And then whatever he says after that doesn't matter, because he 1580 01:35:48,420 --> 01:35:50,460 already told the truth, because he just wanted to be clear, 1581 01:35:50,460 --> 01:35:53,070 didn't want to tell you the truth. He was just you 1582 01:35:53,070 --> 01:35:56,010 wanted to be clear, my favorite while I was thinking about this 1583 01:35:56,010 --> 01:35:59,400 the other day, and I realized the Kennedys had had a distinct 1584 01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:03,210 one that caught on for a while, and then it kind of dropped off. 1585 01:36:03,210 --> 01:36:06,300 And it's Ted Kennedy used it but John Kennedy used to say it all 1586 01:36:06,300 --> 01:36:11,460 the time. And it was this. Let me say this, about that. That's 1587 01:36:11,460 --> 01:36:15,030 the best one right. I think that's the best one. This about 1588 01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:17,490 that. Yeah, that's a good way this about that. But what you're 1589 01:36:17,490 --> 01:36:19,530 gonna say next is like could be anything? 1590 01:36:19,740 --> 01:36:22,410 Well, here's I'll just give you an example. A recent one from 1591 01:36:22,440 --> 01:36:24,420 Stephen Harper of the Canadians. 1592 01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:27,600 And the prime minister is also defending his actions following 1593 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,600 new revelations in the Senate expenses scandal. Here's what he 1594 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,450 had to say when asked about the payment between his former Chief 1595 01:36:33,450 --> 01:36:36,630 of Staff Nigel Wright and conservative Senator Mike Duffy. 1596 01:36:37,590 --> 01:36:39,750 First of all, let me be very clear on this I've been clear 1597 01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:40,980 clear repeatedly I 1598 01:36:41,759 --> 01:36:45,149 double whammy. I've been clear repeatedly let me be clear about 1599 01:36:45,149 --> 01:36:47,999 this learned of this on May the 15th. This I learned of this May 1600 01:36:47,999 --> 01:36:50,819 that it just doesn't stop. It's all performances I learned of 1601 01:36:50,819 --> 01:36:53,549 this. I made this information available to the public people 1602 01:36:53,549 --> 01:36:59,249 of Canada. So that's basically what it is. And then I later I 1603 01:36:59,249 --> 01:37:01,769 forget who it was one of our producers said the presidential 1604 01:37:01,769 --> 01:37:05,519 oath is essentially the biggest performative because it says I 1605 01:37:05,519 --> 01:37:08,669 hear Dubai solemnly swear that to the best of my ability, like 1606 01:37:08,699 --> 01:37:11,129 okay, thanks. Good night, go home. Doesn't matter what you 1607 01:37:11,129 --> 01:37:14,489 say, after that. Pennebaker. I thought he was going to shit 1608 01:37:14,489 --> 01:37:18,689 himself. He's like, Oh, my God, I never thought of that one. So 1609 01:37:18,689 --> 01:37:21,749 now I'm on the inside right now. I'm like, Hey, this is good. 1610 01:37:21,779 --> 01:37:26,249 Tell me some more. He's, and he's so I want to get into his 1611 01:37:26,249 --> 01:37:29,459 research, which hasn't been published yet. And he has 1612 01:37:29,459 --> 01:37:33,929 computer programs, and he does a lot with pronouns. So he has 1613 01:37:33,929 --> 01:37:38,399 computer programs that calculate the use of certain words, but 1614 01:37:38,399 --> 01:37:44,879 it's the words like I am, we are, that they're they these 1615 01:37:44,879 --> 01:37:49,349 types of things. And he has several proven theorems that 1616 01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,949 that he can point to. And the first thing he told me about 1617 01:37:52,949 --> 01:37:57,989 was, you can also see if, if a right if a writer was male or 1618 01:37:57,989 --> 01:38:03,569 female. And he's done some very interesting studies, to see how 1619 01:38:03,599 --> 01:38:07,499 good playwrights were at writing male or female characters, etc. 1620 01:38:08,009 --> 01:38:12,449 And just to give you an example, all of the female characters in 1621 01:38:12,449 --> 01:38:16,889 Quentin Tarantino movies are extremely written as extreme 1622 01:38:16,889 --> 01:38:21,329 males. So are those of Shakespeare. And he has studied 1623 01:38:21,329 --> 01:38:24,239 all the American presidents and he said about Barack Obama, he 1624 01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:28,409 said, is unbelievable. to every single American president is 1625 01:38:28,409 --> 01:38:32,639 100% Macho male, Barack Obama could not be more female. He 1626 01:38:32,639 --> 01:38:35,699 says, it's like a woman is writing his stuff. I said, 1627 01:38:35,699 --> 01:38:41,429 Valerie Jarrett, he didn't get it. But no, but he says, the way 1628 01:38:41,429 --> 01:38:45,929 he the show, the way he the way the President talks, speaks, 1629 01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,649 it's all very soft, a little wishy washy, he says it but he's 1630 01:38:49,649 --> 01:38:54,179 doing it with scientific with, with word counts. And yeah, 1631 01:38:54,180 --> 01:38:56,550 there are a lot of there's actually a bunch of computer 1632 01:38:56,550 --> 01:39:00,090 programs that attempt to do this, and you can run, I've run 1633 01:39:00,090 --> 01:39:03,360 professional writers copy through a bunch of these 1634 01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:08,220 systems. And you can find, you can, you can always spot a 1635 01:39:08,220 --> 01:39:12,870 female writer of, but you can, you can see them trending to 1636 01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:15,810 female. Most professional writers are all trained 1637 01:39:15,810 --> 01:39:19,440 similarly, so that the female in this come from a professional 1638 01:39:19,710 --> 01:39:21,780 professionals have a professional style that they've 1639 01:39:21,780 --> 01:39:25,590 developed from training and editing. And they tend to be 1640 01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:29,430 kind of mostly, if not all male, even if they're women, and 1641 01:39:29,430 --> 01:39:32,160 there's normal people that just right away, they're just writing 1642 01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:35,400 naturally. They I think it's easier with them. I think it's 1643 01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:36,900 harder with professionals, he 1644 01:39:36,900 --> 01:39:39,120 Well, of course, if a professional is trying to you 1645 01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:42,060 know, a great writer can write a woman's character the way a 1646 01:39:42,060 --> 01:39:44,430 woman thinks, you know, I think that that would be the hallmark 1647 01:39:44,430 --> 01:39:45,360 of a great writer. 1648 01:39:45,570 --> 01:39:48,990 I don't think so. I don't think that's the hallmark of a great 1649 01:39:49,110 --> 01:39:50,940 writer being able to become a woman. 1650 01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:52,020 No. 1651 01:39:53,220 --> 01:39:55,620 Okay, you're I'm not even sure there are many great writers 1652 01:39:55,620 --> 01:39:57,480 have ever accomplished what you just said. Well, 1653 01:39:57,480 --> 01:40:00,570 he has done this exact study. You Yeah, what 1654 01:40:00,570 --> 01:40:02,640 great writers have done it? Well, 1655 01:40:02,820 --> 01:40:06,180 I don't I don't have that information handy. But if you 1656 01:40:06,180 --> 01:40:12,840 look at, it doesn't I would say that it's, it may be challenging 1657 01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,880 to write like a woman if you don't know what you're doing to 1658 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:18,360 actually write from a female's perspective and to, for it to 1659 01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:21,750 come out in the computer analysis as a woman, but 1660 01:40:21,750 --> 01:40:24,450 sometimes it may not be necessary. Ergo Quentin 1661 01:40:24,450 --> 01:40:27,780 Tarantino is characters, his female characters are all 1662 01:40:27,780 --> 01:40:32,280 extremely male, and his movies seem to do fine. So it's just 1663 01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,830 it's just the point that you can distinguish between men and 1664 01:40:34,830 --> 01:40:37,680 women in the writing in general. Is that fair? 1665 01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:43,380 I'd say it's, it's partially true. I think, if you want to 1666 01:40:43,380 --> 01:40:46,590 make the argument, I'm not gonna argue against it. But it's still 1667 01:40:46,620 --> 01:40:49,500 you know, it's what his research shows and his roster. He's 1668 01:40:49,500 --> 01:40:51,300 probably coming up with that, but I don't know if he's 1669 01:40:51,330 --> 01:40:53,640 studying just professionals. You study. No, no, no, 1670 01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:56,880 no, no, no, not at all. No, no, in fact, far from it. And the 1671 01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:01,560 reason why he does this is is the ultimate reason is to see 1672 01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,980 that if you he's all about writing certain things if you 1673 01:41:04,980 --> 01:41:07,890 had traumatic experiences, and you can actually heal yourself. 1674 01:41:07,890 --> 01:41:11,760 So his, this is all just side research, which by the way, is 1675 01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,220 now going to Bing This is very interesting, because that's, 1676 01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:17,970 these guys all got consulting gigs. It's very interesting. So 1677 01:41:17,970 --> 01:41:20,790 Bing, looks like the search engine is going to be looking at 1678 01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:24,390 some some fun things, the way things are written, but of 1679 01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:29,460 course, you know, these guys are vibing on Twitter and, and all 1680 01:41:29,460 --> 01:41:32,790 this these incredible datasets that we have. And what he's done 1681 01:41:32,790 --> 01:41:36,960 is he said if you go and look at the pronouns, particularly the 1682 01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,080 use of AI words that every single president has used before 1683 01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:45,870 warfare, in speeches, etc. You can see that right before they 1684 01:41:45,870 --> 01:41:49,380 are about to attack or do something their use of AI goes 1685 01:41:49,380 --> 01:41:54,930 down significantly said George W with Iraq senior with the with 1686 01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:59,280 the first Gulf War, Nixon, I mean, that he's gone back and 1687 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:04,020 studied that and, and I said, rolled How about Obama says, Now 1688 01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:07,050 we haven't really done that research. So we have to 1689 01:42:07,559 --> 01:42:10,259 bet she's gonna find that little country Miss there. Because if 1690 01:42:10,259 --> 01:42:14,519 you remember, we've spotted this. When the when they got Bin 1691 01:42:14,519 --> 01:42:19,139 Laden, it was I he's a very I or 1692 01:42:19,170 --> 01:42:23,910 rarely, or four. And this is where I'm going. It didn't 1693 01:42:23,910 --> 01:42:27,900 actually happen. No intention. It's all it's not it's Yeah, 1694 01:42:27,930 --> 01:42:31,140 that's actually a good one. That's the way I see it. And 1695 01:42:31,140 --> 01:42:34,410 he's done. So and that's kind of the reverse of the last piece of 1696 01:42:34,410 --> 01:42:39,300 information that I got from him. They studied the younger, Tsar 1697 01:42:39,300 --> 01:42:44,220 Neff, brothers tweets, you know, the the so called Boston bomber. 1698 01:42:45,090 --> 01:42:49,440 And so I like it. First of all, he said, Oh, we took the Boston 1699 01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:52,560 bomber. I said, I'm sorry, he hasn't actually been convicted 1700 01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:56,460 of anything. Oh, you know, the alleged Boston bomber said, 1701 01:42:56,460 --> 01:42:59,580 Yeah. And they studied his tweets going 1702 01:42:59,820 --> 01:43:03,750 with somebody to actually have to use the word alleged. Table. 1703 01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,010 Just said, each 1704 01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,210 is it professors is what's so great about it, you can do this 1705 01:43:12,210 --> 01:43:18,210 thought you can do it all night long. And so they took the 1706 01:43:18,210 --> 01:43:22,050 Tsarnaev brothers tweets, and his there are two things they 1707 01:43:22,050 --> 01:43:28,050 analyze the I word usage, which started to go down when his 1708 01:43:28,050 --> 01:43:31,560 older brother went back to Chechnya. But then when his 1709 01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:34,470 older brother came back, not only the I word usage stopped, 1710 01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:38,880 but the cognitive the word cognitive words, really dropped 1711 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,000 off meaning according to the professor, meaning that they had 1712 01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:45,420 already made up their mind they were going to do something. And 1713 01:43:45,420 --> 01:43:47,820 I found this to be interesting, because neither you or I 1714 01:43:47,850 --> 01:43:50,610 necessarily believe that they were certainly solely 1715 01:43:50,610 --> 01:43:54,060 responsible for the Boston bombing. A lot has yet to be 1716 01:43:54,060 --> 01:43:56,580 proven. There's a lot of questions and sketchiness and 1717 01:43:56,580 --> 01:44:00,210 certainly no videotape as alleged. But it does feel like 1718 01:44:00,210 --> 01:44:03,480 perhaps they were involved in some kind of operation and 1719 01:44:03,480 --> 01:44:06,360 something was taking place. But it's not necessarily that I 1720 01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:09,390 wonder if he's going to submit this research. I'm wondering if 1721 01:44:09,390 --> 01:44:11,910 it's going to be used in court, which would be kind of funny. 1722 01:44:13,980 --> 01:44:16,830 Yeah, go on, because that brings up and another interesting thing 1723 01:44:16,830 --> 01:44:20,580 that I picked up off the C span in court using this sort of 1724 01:44:20,580 --> 01:44:21,990 thing in court. Well, let's, 1725 01:44:22,020 --> 01:44:25,740 let's go ahead, because I will, I'm about to wrap it up with a 1726 01:44:25,740 --> 01:44:27,780 document that I want to talk about. So if you got something 1727 01:44:27,780 --> 01:44:28,440 about this that 1728 01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:31,350 I thought this was kind of interesting, they had a bunch of 1729 01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:35,250 people on it was another one of these crazy little events. And 1730 01:44:35,250 --> 01:44:40,080 somebody brought this using NSA data in court. And I think that 1731 01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,110 this is maybe one of the reasons that the FBI and all these other 1732 01:44:43,110 --> 01:44:46,170 guys are freaked out about the Snowden revelations because they 1733 01:44:46,170 --> 01:44:48,660 don't need this situation, getting out of control where 1734 01:44:48,660 --> 01:44:50,730 it's gonna require, and I'll tell you where I think it's 1735 01:44:50,730 --> 01:44:52,020 gonna require after you play the clip, 1736 01:44:52,740 --> 01:44:56,820 a really interesting example from my work just on this topic 1737 01:44:56,820 --> 01:45:01,410 real fast is that in 2005, there A group of environmentalists 1738 01:45:01,410 --> 01:45:04,170 that were facing multiple life sentence sentences for property 1739 01:45:04,170 --> 01:45:06,720 destruction. And like these cases, the government was just 1740 01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,840 turning the screws and really threatening them with this. And 1741 01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:13,410 they were refusing to take any plea agreement. A handful of 1742 01:45:13,410 --> 01:45:15,930 these activists were including DANIEL MCGOWAN from New York. 1743 01:45:16,350 --> 01:45:20,220 And the defense attorneys filed a motion for any NSA 1744 01:45:20,220 --> 01:45:22,740 surveillance that was used. This was at the really the peak of 1745 01:45:22,830 --> 01:45:26,760 the Bush administration spy scandal, right? And the judge 1746 01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,900 agreed. And so it's just like, Wow, holy, holy crap, this is 1747 01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:34,380 That's amazing. This could throw out if that was used to throw 1748 01:45:34,380 --> 01:45:37,110 out the entire prosecutions. And then what happened is, 1749 01:45:37,290 --> 01:45:41,670 prosecutors have this amazing change of heart. And they agreed 1750 01:45:41,670 --> 01:45:44,340 to take the plea agreements without them snitching on their 1751 01:45:44,340 --> 01:45:47,610 friends in order to quash that motion. So we'll move forward. 1752 01:45:47,730 --> 01:45:49,860 And I say this, just because I think it's a really unique 1753 01:45:51,210 --> 01:45:55,470 element that not a lot of people know about. I have a very strong 1754 01:45:55,470 --> 01:45:58,710 suspicion that illegal surveillance is working its way 1755 01:45:58,710 --> 01:46:03,000 into many court cases. And there's a lot of pressure on 1756 01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,010 prosecutors and on the government to make sure the 1757 01:46:05,010 --> 01:46:09,510 extent to that isn't. Hey, Judge, 1758 01:46:11,310 --> 01:46:12,180 you know, it's 1759 01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:14,550 about Yeah, sure. 1760 01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:18,330 You're, you know, you're suing me over sophistry. I'm gonna get 1761 01:46:18,330 --> 01:46:21,030 discovery. And I'm going to say, well, while I'm at it, I'm going 1762 01:46:21,030 --> 01:46:21,180 to 1763 01:46:22,260 --> 01:46:23,730 get all your phone calls say 1764 01:46:23,730 --> 01:46:27,000 to get give me all that because they have them. Yeah, give me 1765 01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:29,940 all your the websites, the whole thing you give, I want to see 1766 01:46:29,940 --> 01:46:32,400 you I want to see your email once your websites, I want to 1767 01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,110 see what you visited. I want to see your go for it 1768 01:46:34,140 --> 01:46:37,800 before I forget. interesting data point. That, you know, the 1769 01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,980 professor works of course with his undergrads, right. And he 1770 01:46:40,980 --> 01:46:43,980 has them I'll do the all the experiments. They all were super 1771 01:46:43,980 --> 01:46:47,940 happy to give him emails, tweets, letters, anything to 1772 01:46:47,940 --> 01:46:51,060 analyze. When he said, Hey, I'd like to analyze your search 1773 01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:55,770 history. Everyone went Oh, no. Well, no one wanted to give him 1774 01:46:55,770 --> 01:46:56,100 that. 1775 01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:59,670 No, everybody's got sketchy stuff in their searches. 1776 01:47:00,330 --> 01:47:06,030 Exactly. Exactly. And the NSA has it all or Omniture, Adobe, 1777 01:47:06,030 --> 01:47:07,290 whoever has it all. Somebody's 1778 01:47:07,290 --> 01:47:10,620 got to and by the way, if you take any of that stuff out of 1779 01:47:10,620 --> 01:47:13,530 context, you have an answer. 1780 01:47:14,820 --> 01:47:17,520 We should do that. So I just read my you want to read your 1781 01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:18,810 search history? And I'll do mine. You 1782 01:47:19,110 --> 01:47:23,190 do too many searches? It really? Yeah, I 1783 01:47:23,190 --> 01:47:27,330 think it would be a wonderful journey into the mind of John C. 1784 01:47:27,330 --> 01:47:33,090 Dvorak. I would pay money for it, actually, how much? 10 1785 01:47:33,090 --> 01:47:36,420 bucks, the usual, the usual Motema $1. 1786 01:47:37,020 --> 01:47:40,230 I'll give you a fine $1. So anyway, so here's what's gonna 1787 01:47:40,230 --> 01:47:43,080 have to happen. It's like, almost a red book prediction. 1788 01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:49,470 Oh, which reminds me, great. They're going to have to make 1789 01:47:49,500 --> 01:47:53,040 this stuff, they're gonna have to do something legislatively to 1790 01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:56,790 prevent abuse of all this data that the NSA is collecting. 1791 01:47:56,790 --> 01:48:00,000 Because, I mean, if I'm a lawyer, I'm going after that 1792 01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,070 data on every case, I do. Oh, 1793 01:48:02,100 --> 01:48:09,750 can I this almost brings me to a natural segue into the snow job, 1794 01:48:09,750 --> 01:48:13,650 Snowden. I think I know where this is going to come down. All 1795 01:48:13,650 --> 01:48:16,740 right, once you go in that direction. Okay. And well, I 1796 01:48:16,740 --> 01:48:18,930 just want to make sure we will, we'll come back eventually to 1797 01:48:18,930 --> 01:48:22,440 this document. There's a new player on the scene in the snow 1798 01:48:22,440 --> 01:48:27,030 job. Now, there's a lot going on, and I'm happy to talk about 1799 01:48:27,030 --> 01:48:30,480 the bullcrap, flyovers that the Bolivian President was allowed 1800 01:48:30,480 --> 01:48:34,830 to fly and I can I can debunk all of that. But the new guy on 1801 01:48:34,830 --> 01:48:38,010 the scene now remember, his dad came out Snowdens dad came out 1802 01:48:38,010 --> 01:48:41,820 and said, Oh, you know what, and I meet this guy. There's not 1803 01:48:41,820 --> 01:48:45,780 even his dad. I'm like, I don't know what this guy is. He has 1804 01:48:45,780 --> 01:48:50,280 brought in a lawyer. And this is very interesting. The lawyer 1805 01:48:50,310 --> 01:48:56,970 that Lonnie has brought in is Bruce fine. Now Bruce fine. Is 1806 01:48:57,150 --> 01:49:01,830 this is this is no slouch. Key is a part of Lichfield and 1807 01:49:01,830 --> 01:49:04,320 Associates. Have you ever heard of this outfit? 1808 01:49:05,190 --> 01:49:07,650 Yeah, I have. As a matter of fact, this is 1809 01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:13,800 this is a huge, huge old school law firm. Their offices are at 1810 01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:22,320 Lichfield Cathedral. This is an unbelievable group. What? In 1811 01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:26,220 what context? Have you heard of Lichfield and Associates? 1812 01:49:26,310 --> 01:49:29,670 Sure. They're just a big giant firm. Right now, if 1813 01:49:29,670 --> 01:49:32,070 you look at their mission statement, and you can find that 1814 01:49:32,070 --> 01:49:34,470 at Lichfield, group.org, 1815 01:49:34,860 --> 01:49:37,650 a spelling Lichfield, Lima, India, 1816 01:49:37,650 --> 01:49:43,740 Charlie hotel, Foxtrot, India echo Lima Delta, list, field 1817 01:49:43,770 --> 01:49:48,570 group.org. Enduring statement of mission of the Lichfield group 1818 01:49:48,570 --> 01:49:51,510 by resolution feeding the world's hungry and preventing 1819 01:49:51,510 --> 01:49:55,350 global hunger. Yeah, okay. I know a lot of lawyers whose 1820 01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:59,250 mission statement is that whereas the Lichfield group is 1821 01:49:59,250 --> 01:50:01,860 an independent neutral and impartial organization whose 1822 01:50:01,860 --> 01:50:05,160 humanitarian mission is to provide food and aid to those in 1823 01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:08,160 need, and to supply them with the assistance in establishing 1824 01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:12,150 and ultimately maintaining their own self sustainability, blah, 1825 01:50:12,150 --> 01:50:16,740 blah, blah. We're like the International Red Cross. They 1826 01:50:16,740 --> 01:50:21,300 say, No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What's going to happen is we're 1827 01:50:21,300 --> 01:50:25,410 going to have wiki wiki leaks on one side. And of course, they, 1828 01:50:25,530 --> 01:50:31,200 you know, now that MasterCard has said, oh, yeah, we're gonna 1829 01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,680 allow we're gonna let wiki leaks. process credit cards 1830 01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:39,000 again. Oh, How coincidental is that at this moment in time? And 1831 01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,100 why such a change of heart? I wonder 1832 01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:46,050 that we, I, we may have just not the company I was thinking of, 1833 01:50:46,050 --> 01:50:48,900 by the way, but I think we've discussed this group before and 1834 01:50:48,900 --> 01:50:51,330 I'm not if I'm not mistaken. They're out of the they're from 1835 01:50:51,330 --> 01:50:54,060 the like, the they're in the Oxfam category. They're in 1836 01:50:54,060 --> 01:50:55,170 England. Well, it's 1837 01:50:55,170 --> 01:50:59,340 also they've got big Israeli money behind them. This is huge 1838 01:50:59,340 --> 01:51:05,490 DC, like, I guess, you call neocon or, you know, this, this 1839 01:51:05,490 --> 01:51:09,600 is these guys have been around. And they are going to make some 1840 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:14,070 kind of huge trouble. Because I think I think Snowden will come 1841 01:51:14,070 --> 01:51:18,450 back. I think he's going to give himself up, but only under some 1842 01:51:18,450 --> 01:51:21,780 kind of deal. And then we're going to have some kind of 1843 01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:26,910 lawsuit and I'm not sure exactly why this guy is not. You can't 1844 01:51:26,910 --> 01:51:32,640 retain this guy. If you're the you're Lonnie. Hi, I'm Lonnie. 1845 01:51:32,670 --> 01:51:38,850 I'm Edward Snowden is dead. Hi. Yeah. Hi, Bruce. I want to 1846 01:51:38,850 --> 01:51:42,870 retain you. No, that's not how it works. These guys are based 1847 01:51:42,870 --> 01:51:48,630 in Geneva. Yeah, that's why I called something big is going 1848 01:51:48,630 --> 01:51:55,470 down here. And I think it has it has everything to do with with 1849 01:51:55,470 --> 01:51:59,100 putting the screws to probably this administration is what I'm 1850 01:51:59,100 --> 01:51:59,640 guessing. 1851 01:51:59,670 --> 01:52:03,840 Well, everything that we've seen over the last week when it first 1852 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:06,150 began when they started and we've said it a couple of times, 1853 01:52:06,150 --> 01:52:11,520 they're piling on Obama began they are relentless. And we 1854 01:52:11,730 --> 01:52:15,630 decided, I believe the two of us that about a month ago, when 1855 01:52:16,230 --> 01:52:20,700 once it had already begun, and now we started it was like we're 1856 01:52:20,700 --> 01:52:24,540 gonna eat you ever shot at getting rid of him now? Or 1857 01:52:24,540 --> 01:52:28,140 never. And so we have it's been relentless, relentless, 1858 01:52:28,140 --> 01:52:31,200 relentless, and I don't see that. They figured I think 1859 01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:34,110 somebody did a psychological profile of them the woman's side 1860 01:52:34,110 --> 01:52:36,930 of him, I guess. He's gonna crack. 1861 01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:40,140 Yeah, let me let me give you a little more extra or let me give 1862 01:52:40,140 --> 01:52:43,140 the the producers of the show a little more extra data. So we 1863 01:52:43,140 --> 01:52:48,390 had this Bolivian incident and, and this was essentially the 1864 01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:52,980 setup to rile up all of South America. Let me play this is 1865 01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:57,900 about a minute and a half of we have Bolivia, Venezuela, 1866 01:52:57,900 --> 01:53:01,770 Argentina. And by the way, the the Venezuelan President. He's 1867 01:53:01,770 --> 01:53:07,230 kind of like a, like a Devo safety dance hat on this very 1868 01:53:07,230 --> 01:53:11,190 interesting outfit he's wearing. And these are the them speaking 1869 01:53:11,220 --> 01:53:15,630 and translations. It's a little compilation of what they're 1870 01:53:15,630 --> 01:53:18,690 saying about the President and the United States of America. 1871 01:53:19,290 --> 01:53:19,590 See. 1872 01:53:24,180 --> 01:53:28,800 If necessary, we will close the US Embassy in Bolivia. We do not 1873 01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:32,310 need the US Embassy. We don't need this pretext of cooperation 1874 01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:35,340 and diplomatic relations. When they come to conspire from 1875 01:53:35,340 --> 01:53:39,990 within and from outside. The US Ambassador to Bolivia is gone. 1876 01:53:41,100 --> 01:53:45,990 The US Drug Enforcement Administration is gone. Surely 1877 01:53:46,050 --> 01:53:49,110 the CIA is infiltrated all over the place. 1878 01:53:51,210 --> 01:53:53,100 And now we go to Venezuela, my hand would not 1879 01:53:53,100 --> 01:53:57,180 tremble to shut down the US Embassy. We have dignity. We 1880 01:53:57,180 --> 01:54:00,390 have sovereignty. Without America. We are better off 1881 01:54:00,450 --> 01:54:03,000 politically and democratically 1882 01:54:03,090 --> 01:54:04,770 that was still liable Libyan advantage 1883 01:54:09,210 --> 01:54:11,790 gave the order to the authorities in these countries 1884 01:54:11,820 --> 01:54:18,270 and said Yun Snowden was on the plane with a CIA. According to 1885 01:54:18,270 --> 01:54:21,420 what has happened in Europe, the CIA is more powerful than the 1886 01:54:21,420 --> 01:54:29,430 government's. He's in charge in Europe. European governments and 1887 01:54:29,430 --> 01:54:31,140 their people are the CIA. 1888 01:54:34,710 --> 01:54:39,720 President, you President of Bolivia were held hostage for 13 1889 01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:43,680 hours. And now they're trying to explain all this saying it was 1890 01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,740 due to technical problems or feel problems. 1891 01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,920 Okay, so that was the three South American countries in a 1892 01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:55,470 row and very interesting how they're talking about the CIA 1893 01:54:55,470 --> 01:54:59,190 being infiltrated how America is shit, you know, and by the way 1894 01:54:59,610 --> 01:55:03,360 to the chair chat room. You're absolutely right. Devo did not 1895 01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:05,760 do safety dance. It was men without hats. And because that's 1896 01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,190 the only thing you care about, I'm logging off of the chat room 1897 01:55:08,190 --> 01:55:11,580 because you're idiots. You're not the only fact that can pick 1898 01:55:11,580 --> 01:55:17,280 up on. So, I mean, I just logged out. How stupid are you? Oh, 1899 01:55:17,610 --> 01:55:22,590 there was he was met with Red Hat. Alright. So there's clearly 1900 01:55:22,590 --> 01:55:25,560 and this is all Russian based Putin is sitting there laughing 1901 01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:26,280 at this because 1902 01:55:26,550 --> 01:55:29,640 Putin is having the time of his life. I wouldn't be surprised if 1903 01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:32,790 Putin this group didn't make themselves look like the CIA 1904 01:55:32,790 --> 01:55:33,990 pulling this off. 1905 01:55:34,140 --> 01:55:36,600 Well, let me tell you what happened. So the Bolivian 1906 01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:40,470 President had just had a meeting in Moscow, he's flying back from 1907 01:55:40,470 --> 01:55:44,700 Moscow, where, you know, they have a $5 billion deal with 1908 01:55:44,700 --> 01:55:49,110 Gazprom, which is Putin. They know what side of the bread is 1909 01:55:49,110 --> 01:55:52,620 buttered. And this whole like, oh, they were they were free or 1910 01:55:52,620 --> 01:55:55,230 they were not allowed to cross they were forced to land well, 1911 01:55:55,230 --> 01:55:59,490 here is the and if you look on the map, they they they tried to 1912 01:55:59,490 --> 01:56:04,920 land in Portugal, for fueling that Portugal Faro airport I 1913 01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:07,410 believe could not take them for technical reasons which is 1914 01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:10,410 highly possible that they had to divert but if you look at the 1915 01:56:10,410 --> 01:56:14,910 map and then circle around they go to Austria this is the the 1916 01:56:14,940 --> 01:56:19,320 tail numbers Fox Alpha Bravo 001 And I'm going to let you in a 1917 01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:23,970 little bit of pilot humor here as you listen to this force 1918 01:56:23,970 --> 01:56:25,680 landing in Austria. 1919 01:56:31,260 --> 01:56:37,230 001 Good evening. Information whiskey Okay, so that's the 1920 01:56:37,230 --> 01:56:40,230 tower saying Good evening, how you doing information whiskey, 1921 01:56:40,230 --> 01:56:43,500 which this is the that's the the current weather an atmosphere 1922 01:56:43,500 --> 01:56:45,990 conditions, expect this runway, how you doing? 1923 01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:57,510 You need any assistance. They need any assistance from 1924 01:56:57,510 --> 01:57:00,180 learning. So this is the Austrian flight controller 1925 01:57:00,180 --> 01:57:02,550 saying, Hey, do you guys need any assistance when you land? 1926 01:57:02,550 --> 01:57:05,010 You know, because we know that your presidential plane you need 1927 01:57:05,010 --> 01:57:08,160 anything anything we can do ice cream, you know, Twizzlers, 1928 01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:14,940 anything we can get for you. Not at this moment. Because we 1929 01:57:14,940 --> 01:57:24,000 cannot get a correct indication of indication. So now, let me 1930 01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:27,090 tell you a little bit of pilot humor. So what he said is no, 1931 01:57:27,090 --> 01:57:29,970 no, we don't need assistance, we need to land because we cannot 1932 01:57:29,970 --> 01:57:34,410 get a correct indication of our fuel level. Therefore, we need 1933 01:57:34,410 --> 01:57:39,510 to land as a precautionary measure. This is a $47 million 1934 01:57:39,930 --> 01:57:44,820 jet. Which you know, this is not like your fuel gauge in your 1935 01:57:44,850 --> 01:57:50,010 car. And it's not just one fuel gauge as multiple fuel gauge 1936 01:57:50,010 --> 01:57:53,820 fuel pressure fuel flow. This is very, very rare. In fact, 1937 01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,610 there's two things pilots use when they want to make an 1938 01:57:56,610 --> 01:58:00,060 unscheduled landing, because this was an unscheduled landing 1939 01:58:00,060 --> 01:58:05,130 that probably because Putin said Alright, here's what we're gonna 1940 01:58:05,130 --> 01:58:09,390 do. Firstly, I'm going to say that Anna Chapman wants to marry 1941 01:58:09,390 --> 01:58:12,360 Snowden that'll piss everybody off, then I want you guys to 1942 01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:15,300 pretend like you're being forced down. But he's not he is 1943 01:58:15,300 --> 01:58:18,480 requested to land. In the two things if you need to make an 1944 01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:21,210 unscheduled stop or some change that is not a part of your 1945 01:58:21,210 --> 01:58:24,240 flight plan. The two things you use are one. Oh, man, there's 1946 01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:26,820 something wrong with the fuel. We don't know. Because you he 1947 01:58:26,820 --> 01:58:29,970 didn't declare an emergency. You see, declaring an emergency is a 1948 01:58:29,970 --> 01:58:31,860 whole different level. He said no, no, as a precautionary 1949 01:58:31,860 --> 01:58:34,410 measure, we might have something wrong with the fuel. We want to 1950 01:58:34,410 --> 01:58:37,050 land. The other one which you use in smaller aircraft, and 1951 01:58:37,050 --> 01:58:39,840 every pilot will know this. You say? Yeah, we have passenger 1952 01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:41,970 who's sick? In other words, did you know that you got someone 1953 01:58:41,970 --> 01:58:44,940 puking in your cockpit and you want to land and you just want 1954 01:58:44,940 --> 01:58:46,950 to get them out because it smells a puke and you want to 1955 01:58:46,950 --> 01:58:50,490 stop? And though they're both usually lies. Because you just 1956 01:58:50,490 --> 01:58:53,700 want to convert to a different flight plan. You want to land 1957 01:58:53,700 --> 01:58:58,830 somewhere you were too lazy to file etc. To this does not jive 1958 01:58:58,830 --> 01:59:02,130 with. They were not allowed to enter airspace, they were 1959 01:59:02,130 --> 01:59:07,230 blocked. No, they they did it made an unscheduled stop. And it 1960 01:59:07,230 --> 01:59:10,800 was their request. And it was a lie that brought them down. But 1961 01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:14,130 this whole thing South America is I think what Putin is doing 1962 01:59:14,130 --> 01:59:16,920 is saying, Okay, you want to surround everything here. You 1963 01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:19,680 want all your rockets, you want to put everything here you want 1964 01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:23,610 it. You want Syria, you got your stuff in Poland, you got all of 1965 01:59:23,610 --> 01:59:26,460 North Africa, how about it get South America, all I'm waiting 1966 01:59:26,460 --> 01:59:30,420 for now is for Mexico to start saying something to us that we 1967 01:59:30,420 --> 01:59:33,570 had to put in the Red Book. Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, Mexico 1968 01:59:33,570 --> 01:59:39,810 next. This is cold war. And I think Did you hear Bolivia 1969 01:59:39,810 --> 01:59:45,630 Venezuela? And? And Argentina? This is like all of South 1970 01:59:45,630 --> 01:59:48,570 America is an upward Well, I think the Russians pretty much 1971 01:59:48,570 --> 01:59:50,220 have deals with all of those countries. 1972 01:59:52,260 --> 01:59:56,850 No, it's It's becoming quite funny to us. Now. What was the 1973 01:59:56,850 --> 01:59:59,970 point or was you think that this was Bogota of where they came? 1974 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,000 And is searched the plane for supposedly for Snowden. But 1975 02:00:03,180 --> 02:00:06,810 there was the plane made maybe they just continued with the 1976 02:00:06,810 --> 02:00:10,380 ruse and had look, if they really had a fuel indicator 1977 02:00:10,380 --> 02:00:13,560 problem, then it can take quite a while to get someone out to 1978 02:00:14,190 --> 02:00:17,490 look knows this Trident jet and knows how to look at the fuel 1979 02:00:17,490 --> 02:00:20,820 indicator you you kind of have to keep the roof going whatever. 1980 02:00:21,420 --> 02:00:24,150 But they asked if they needed assistance. This is not a forced 1981 02:00:24,150 --> 02:00:29,580 landing. This is not like so I'm checking. This is all all a lie. 1982 02:00:29,940 --> 02:00:35,760 None of it is true. None of it. There is no evidence other than 1983 02:00:36,450 --> 02:00:38,760 that, you know, the analysis is interesting because if you 1984 02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:41,460 listen to the State Department, I have a clip. Oh, good. But 1985 02:00:41,460 --> 02:00:44,760 they were jumping all over. That was it was Jen. That was the 1986 02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:46,860 spokesman. I have other clips. 1987 02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:51,240 I've listened to her a couple of times. And I can't believe that 1988 02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:53,010 the press corps doesn't shoot her. 1989 02:00:53,250 --> 02:00:57,180 Yeah, no, she is condescending. Oh, she's much worse than our 1990 02:00:57,180 --> 02:01:00,510 other girl than Newland. Yeah, she is so condescending. I don't 1991 02:01:00,510 --> 02:01:04,140 have these clips because I didn't produce them. I may put 1992 02:01:04,140 --> 02:01:07,110 them together later. Because it takes a little production. She 1993 02:01:07,110 --> 02:01:10,890 is especially to Matt Lee. This is our failures. Our guy is our 1994 02:01:10,890 --> 02:01:14,700 guy Matt. Yeah. Matt. And so Matt from AP he's been on are 1995 02:01:14,700 --> 02:01:17,580 constantly and she's always going. She's like big nurse and 1996 02:01:17,580 --> 02:01:21,030 they One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? Well, Matt, I know you'd 1997 02:01:21,030 --> 02:01:23,880 like to think that. I know you'd like not to fact and we're not 1998 02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:24,570 going to talk. 1999 02:01:25,530 --> 02:01:28,320 And Matt is also always saying like, well, before you say the 2000 02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:31,530 fluid is the situation is fluid, and we don't address yet he's 2001 02:01:31,530 --> 02:01:36,090 always giving her crap about her bull crap. It's hilarious. But I 2002 02:01:36,090 --> 02:01:39,030 haven't been able to find enough to clip from you clearly got 2003 02:01:39,330 --> 02:01:42,960 a clip of her saying that oh, well, you know, it's not, we 2004 02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:44,880 can't tell you which essentially, is a clip of her 2005 02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:47,220 saying we can't talk about anything. But they got on the 2006 02:01:47,220 --> 02:01:51,630 case about this, about this plane and all the crap that went 2007 02:01:51,630 --> 02:01:55,920 on. She seemed she seemed as though she was either unaware of 2008 02:01:55,980 --> 02:01:59,010 from your perspective of what you say is true, or what you 2009 02:01:59,250 --> 02:02:01,710 your thesis, say your thesis data 2010 02:02:01,710 --> 02:02:03,750 I have? I mean, she does not 2011 02:02:03,750 --> 02:02:05,610 have any of this at all. I mean, 2012 02:02:05,610 --> 02:02:08,910 that you're taking one side over the other. Go ahead. 2013 02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:13,740 system, the US have any role in encouraging Western European 2014 02:02:13,740 --> 02:02:16,530 countries to block the flight of the Bolivian President 2015 02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:20,820 yesterday. Was there any communication between the US and 2016 02:02:20,820 --> 02:02:21,720 those countries? 2017 02:02:23,190 --> 02:02:26,340 Well, as you know, because we've talked about it quite a bit in 2018 02:02:26,340 --> 02:02:30,930 here. The US has been in touch the United States, I should say 2019 02:02:30,930 --> 02:02:34,140 officials have been in touch with a broad range of countries 2020 02:02:34,380 --> 02:02:35,130 over the world. Was 2021 02:02:35,130 --> 02:02:39,360 that about the United States? Yes. No, no, no, no, no, she 2022 02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:41,910 says something else. It says the US or I mean, the United States, 2023 02:02:41,910 --> 02:02:43,140 I should say, yeah, no, 2024 02:02:43,140 --> 02:02:47,250 I heard that. analyzer says the US it's just the United States 2025 02:02:47,250 --> 02:02:52,620 officials? I do not know. Okay, that was weird. I will not get 2026 02:02:52,620 --> 02:02:54,750 it that was in those countries? 2027 02:02:56,220 --> 02:02:59,010 Well, has, you know, because we've talked about it quite a 2028 02:02:59,010 --> 02:03:03,480 bit in here. The US has been in touch the United States, I 2029 02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:06,540 should say officials have been in touch with a broad range of 2030 02:03:06,540 --> 02:03:12,120 countries over the course of the last 10 days. And we haven't I 2031 02:03:12,120 --> 02:03:16,110 haven't listed those countries. I'm certainly not going to do 2032 02:03:16,110 --> 02:03:21,000 that today. Our position on Mr. Snowden has also been crystal 2033 02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:24,570 clear in terms of what we want to happen. And that message has 2034 02:03:24,570 --> 02:03:29,460 been communicated both publicly and privately and a range of 2035 02:03:29,460 --> 02:03:33,060 these conversations we've had with countries. And let me just 2036 02:03:33,060 --> 02:03:36,420 repeat he's been accused of leaking classified information. 2037 02:03:36,420 --> 02:03:39,420 He's been charged with three felony counts and should be 2038 02:03:39,420 --> 02:03:42,630 returned to the United States. I don't know that any country 2039 02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:46,650 doesn't think that that is what the United States would like to 2040 02:03:46,650 --> 02:03:53,880 happen. The public many, the public. But decision made, you 2041 02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:56,700 know, over the course of the last week or so whether they're 2042 02:03:56,700 --> 02:04:00,750 public comments about whether or not they'll accept asylum as 2043 02:04:00,750 --> 02:04:04,980 asylum request, or whether it's closing airspace are decisions 2044 02:04:04,980 --> 02:04:09,150 made by individual countries. And I would point you to them 2045 02:04:09,420 --> 02:04:13,140 to, to describe why they made decisions if they made 2046 02:04:13,140 --> 02:04:15,750 decisions. And I know there's already been a range of public 2047 02:04:15,750 --> 02:04:16,650 comments out there. 2048 02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:19,620 There's been a great deal of criticism, though, from Latin 2049 02:04:19,620 --> 02:04:23,190 American leaders about the decision, not least because 2050 02:04:23,220 --> 02:04:27,390 Snowden doesn't appear to have been on board. You don't sound 2051 02:04:27,390 --> 02:04:29,670 like you're denying that there were conversations about this. I 2052 02:04:29,670 --> 02:04:32,400 mean, they number of Latin American leaders today has 2053 02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:36,390 specifically criticized the US for intervening in the 2054 02:04:36,390 --> 02:04:40,560 diplomatic flight. Are you are you are you am I right? And 2055 02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:42,360 understand that you're not denying there were conversations 2056 02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:42,570 about 2057 02:04:42,630 --> 02:04:45,360 I'm not going to get into diplomatic conversations that 2058 02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:48,660 happened over the past 10 days and which countries they were 2059 02:04:48,660 --> 02:04:52,230 with but I would point you to the countries that you're 2060 02:04:52,230 --> 02:04:55,830 referring to and ask you to ask them about decisions that were 2061 02:04:55,830 --> 02:04:56,100 made 2062 02:04:56,160 --> 02:04:59,340 and I just got a little extra new piece of information in that 2063 02:04:59,340 --> 02:05:05,670 they And the aircraft also made a refueling stop at Las Palmas 2064 02:05:05,670 --> 02:05:09,870 airport, which I think is Canary Islands, where they only took on 2065 02:05:09,870 --> 02:05:15,090 3100 kilos of fuel, which is about a third, you know, just 2066 02:05:15,090 --> 02:05:19,620 about enough to run out. Or to refuel somewhere else, this 2067 02:05:19,620 --> 02:05:24,000 thing. And by the way, that clip, which I had, I saw that 2068 02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:27,150 whole piece, I was thinking about it. I realized it's better 2069 02:05:27,150 --> 02:05:29,070 when you can see her annoying head. 2070 02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:33,510 Oh, it's so funny. You have to kind of, cuz she's got to. 2071 02:05:34,050 --> 02:05:37,260 Yeah, you have to kind of see the face when she doesn't really 2072 02:05:37,290 --> 02:05:37,620 know. 2073 02:05:37,620 --> 02:05:40,140 Actually, she doesn't. If you just listen to her audio, it's a 2074 02:05:40,140 --> 02:05:42,840 lot different than if you watch her. Yeah, no, because it's just 2075 02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:47,490 like this. It's like you idiots. I don't She's a very Hillary 2076 02:05:47,490 --> 02:05:50,850 style. Yes. Well, I think she was obviously hired by Hillary 2077 02:05:50,850 --> 02:05:52,530 during that era. But we should we 2078 02:05:52,530 --> 02:05:55,170 should look into her background. I have not done that. I know 2079 02:05:55,170 --> 02:05:58,380 that she that Jin Woo because you know, Victoria moved on. 2080 02:05:58,380 --> 02:06:01,050 Right. She's up. She's now she's on the plane. She's She flies 2081 02:06:01,050 --> 02:06:03,810 with Carrie. And she's, you know, she's a she's a muckety 2082 02:06:03,810 --> 02:06:06,780 muck Now, which of course she wants to be because she is in 2083 02:06:06,780 --> 02:06:09,840 the elitist circle with her husband there. But this whole 2084 02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:14,640 thing is, and you can hear her really having nothing to say 2085 02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:18,540 about it. There was no call. There's no there's nothing went 2086 02:06:18,540 --> 02:06:23,640 out this distance. It is theater. It is one big theater. 2087 02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:26,940 I'm telling you. I don't think she'd had a clue. It knows. No, 2088 02:06:26,940 --> 02:06:27,150 she 2089 02:06:27,150 --> 02:06:30,750 has no idea because it didn't happen that way. He just didn't 2090 02:06:30,750 --> 02:06:33,660 have this as a UN. It's so hard. We don't catch these things 2091 02:06:33,660 --> 02:06:37,230 quite quick enough. We need to find out where did this come 2092 02:06:37,230 --> 02:06:42,840 from first, who was the first to report this atrocity? I'm pretty 2093 02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:48,390 sure it came from source Arceus RT Yeah, exactly. R T. Maybe the 2094 02:06:48,390 --> 02:06:48,810 first 2095 02:06:48,810 --> 02:06:52,050 clip I saw that was our tea. Yeah. I'm telling you, these 2096 02:06:52,050 --> 02:06:53,910 guys are making fools of our people. 2097 02:06:55,320 --> 02:07:00,750 Yeah, well, there's two things you can do a shut our tea down, 2098 02:07:01,170 --> 02:07:05,040 get them off, or that's what I would do or be higher the curry 2099 02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:09,870 Devorah Consulting Group and give us a channel. Give us give 2100 02:07:09,870 --> 02:07:11,130 us MSNBC. 2101 02:07:11,430 --> 02:07:14,490 I think what you want to do is you want to create a I don't 2102 02:07:14,490 --> 02:07:18,630 know. Yeah, MSNBC, B, please, we could be great with it, you got 2103 02:07:18,630 --> 02:07:22,530 to get rid of some of these guys like Schultz saw. I mean, he's 2104 02:07:22,530 --> 02:07:28,980 not doing anybody a favor. Oh, okay to spy on the American 2105 02:07:28,980 --> 02:07:32,550 public because terrorists are involved. I don't even know what 2106 02:07:32,550 --> 02:07:33,060 the right 2107 02:07:33,330 --> 02:07:36,240 way to go. And the funny thing, and I'm in the midst of all of 2108 02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:39,330 this is to go after the Russians. And the New York Times 2109 02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:43,770 is for some reason they got left out. I'm not quite sure why. But 2110 02:07:43,770 --> 02:07:47,040 the New York Times didn't get it didn't get a seat at this table 2111 02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:51,120 for this, this grand game, this, you know, this whole, the 2112 02:07:51,120 --> 02:07:54,840 leaking of the of the documents, and they're just not a part of 2113 02:07:54,840 --> 02:08:00,300 it. In fact, there's a pretty good article in the Times about 2114 02:08:00,300 --> 02:08:04,260 the FISA court, the Foreign Intelligence Service Act courts, 2115 02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:08,460 and how they created this huge body of legislation that 2116 02:08:08,460 --> 02:08:14,670 actually enables under the special circumstances clause 2117 02:08:15,060 --> 02:08:19,230 enables this type of large surveillance, and it is the same 2118 02:08:19,230 --> 02:08:23,820 clause that is used for sobriety checkpoints for airport 2119 02:08:23,820 --> 02:08:27,420 security. And what you're seeing is the so called slippery slope, 2120 02:08:27,450 --> 02:08:30,720 you know, it's mud and we're down, we're, we're headed on the 2121 02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:33,570 way down, and there's no stopping it. Because we allowed 2122 02:08:33,570 --> 02:08:38,010 all this to happen, even though lots of people are saying, Hey, 2123 02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:41,940 don't do this. The rest of the fools are like, oh, I want to be 2124 02:08:41,940 --> 02:08:45,060 safe. And we're only getting more of that. We're only getting 2125 02:08:45,060 --> 02:08:48,630 more of that. Yeah, I agree. And this, and maybe I should just 2126 02:08:48,630 --> 02:08:51,990 finish with, with a document that that Professor Russell get, 2127 02:08:51,990 --> 02:08:54,570 and Professor Ross gave to me, because I put this in the show 2128 02:08:54,570 --> 02:09:00,060 notes. And this is something you have to see to believe in 1987. 2129 02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:04,590 So Russ is near one of our dinner group. And, and we were 2130 02:09:04,590 --> 02:09:08,430 talking about what is, you know, it was part of the manipulation 2131 02:09:08,460 --> 02:09:11,400 thing, like, you know, people get freaked out about all the 2132 02:09:11,400 --> 02:09:13,230 wrong things, and you're probably worried that you're 2133 02:09:13,230 --> 02:09:17,100 gonna get shot by some white psycho in the shopping mall, or 2134 02:09:17,100 --> 02:09:19,650 the movies were really the likelihood of that is less than 2135 02:09:19,650 --> 02:09:22,800 getting struck by lightning, you have more chance of dying by 2136 02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:26,520 driving home tonight, etc. And of course, you know, this, this 2137 02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:29,490 becomes a conversation and there was an email thread the next 2138 02:09:29,490 --> 02:09:34,470 day. And Ross ends because he's, uh, you know, he's, he's a brain 2139 02:09:34,470 --> 02:09:38,610 scientist. So they, he knows all the research on this stuff. And 2140 02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:42,870 let me just find the, the actual document here. There's a very 2141 02:09:42,870 --> 02:09:45,630 and he says it's a very famous study that was done. And this 2142 02:09:45,630 --> 02:09:51,390 has been, you know, this type of research is, is done by, you 2143 02:09:51,390 --> 02:09:55,920 know, it's federally funded, right. A lot of research is done 2144 02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:59,550 by the, what do you call it the National Institutes of Mental 2145 02:09:59,550 --> 02:10:02,550 Health Have what else do you have? John? 2146 02:10:03,510 --> 02:10:07,770 National Science Foundation? Science? Yeah, the army, the 2147 02:10:07,770 --> 02:10:11,520 army, the intelligence agencies, the DARPA does a lot of this. 2148 02:10:12,540 --> 02:10:17,250 So he gives me the document. Oh, I'm just scrolling. I'm little. 2149 02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:19,320 Oh, I see what you're up to. Yeah, I can't find 2150 02:10:19,320 --> 02:10:22,200 it. Find it by John helped me out here. Could you talk? 2151 02:10:22,230 --> 02:10:25,740 Yeah. And then I think, you know, Brown is a pretty color if 2152 02:10:25,740 --> 02:10:28,800 you're really dumb. The 2153 02:10:29,910 --> 02:10:35,190 the research was done by a guy named Slavic, SL, O. V. I see. 2154 02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:41,490 And that's the name I'm looking for. Right? Frog? This is 2155 02:10:41,490 --> 02:10:46,980 horrible. I can't believe I lost the fucking document. Yes, I 2156 02:10:46,980 --> 02:10:48,030 said it. I'm sorry. She 2157 02:10:48,030 --> 02:10:48,900 more believable. 2158 02:10:49,110 --> 02:10:53,430 Yeah, well, believe me that I lost this document, I'm gonna 2159 02:10:53,430 --> 02:10:55,740 have to come back to it. Otherwise, I'm just run around 2160 02:10:55,740 --> 02:11:00,000 like an idiot because I marked it up anyway, in 1987, they did 2161 02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:03,540 a survey, and it was done. It was given to the government and 2162 02:11:03,540 --> 02:11:08,250 given with the express notion of, hey, wow, the American 2163 02:11:08,250 --> 02:11:11,790 people are afraid about really stupid things that aren't really 2164 02:11:11,850 --> 02:11:15,990 all that dangerous. And you should adjust your the way you 2165 02:11:15,990 --> 02:11:19,710 legislate, to let people know that they're worried about all 2166 02:11:19,710 --> 02:11:23,850 the wrong things. And I look at this document 1987 when look at 2167 02:11:23,850 --> 02:11:27,030 and just the opposite. Yes. 1987. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do 2168 02:11:27,030 --> 02:11:29,790 the same thing. I mean, I would guess what you're gonna say, the 2169 02:11:29,790 --> 02:11:32,580 document comes as Oh, this is what they're afraid of, let's 2170 02:11:32,580 --> 02:11:33,840 milk it. And it's 2171 02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:38,130 the top of the list, nuclear energy, you know, at that time, 2172 02:11:38,130 --> 02:11:43,500 at that point in time, top of the list was what was and of 2173 02:11:43,500 --> 02:11:47,760 course, it did segregated by women and students, etc. Top 2174 02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:52,230 analysts was private aviation, people on small airplanes, all 2175 02:11:52,230 --> 02:11:58,680 of this stuff. And it goes into a level of, of how your brain 2176 02:11:58,680 --> 02:12:03,000 works. And it turns out that people are more afraid of 2177 02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:05,280 events. And there's an I'm looking for a word, because it's 2178 02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:07,740 going to be a show title. They're more afraid of events 2179 02:12:07,740 --> 02:12:15,000 that actually have no, no real victims. But that, you know, 2180 02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:19,830 shows a failure, typically a technological failure, that if 2181 02:12:19,830 --> 02:12:23,100 that happens, all the 1000s of people could die. And that's, of 2182 02:12:23,100 --> 02:12:28,290 course, what what nuclear energy is. So the event doesn't 2183 02:12:28,290 --> 02:12:32,310 actually not a lot of people die or hurt or if anything at all 2184 02:12:32,310 --> 02:12:37,110 happens. But it gives you the idea that if if the government 2185 02:12:37,110 --> 02:12:40,320 doesn't fix this, fix the technology, fix the legislation, 2186 02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:43,170 technology is a big one on this, by the way, that then it could 2187 02:12:43,170 --> 02:12:45,870 have catastrophic, catastrophic results. 2188 02:12:46,530 --> 02:12:49,620 It's probably why they're milking the cyberterrorism. 2189 02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:54,210 Exactly. This thing is like a joke. This is essentially 2190 02:12:54,210 --> 02:12:57,360 unfortunate. Everybody forgets about this. This is no worse 2191 02:12:57,360 --> 02:12:59,070 than y 2k 2192 02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:03,930 Same thing. Y 2k This was the study was done before y2k. 2193 02:13:04,110 --> 02:13:07,320 Otherwise it would have been perfect for it. Perfect. 2194 02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:12,900 And y2k the biggest fiasco ever. Oh, I 2195 02:13:12,900 --> 02:13:15,750 have it. Oh, my goodness. All this time. I was looking for the 2196 02:13:15,750 --> 02:13:18,570 dummies the show's over. I know what to kind of say Okay, I just 2197 02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:22,290 okay. And it's one of these. He got it from? What's the thing 2198 02:13:22,290 --> 02:13:28,080 that they killed Aaron Schwartz for JSTOR. They killed people 2199 02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:31,590 over over talking about documents like this. The zero 2200 02:13:31,590 --> 02:13:34,500 risks here it is. This is the these perceptions and the 2201 02:13:34,500 --> 02:13:38,040 opposition to technology that accompanies them have puzzled 2202 02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:41,370 and frustrated industrialists and regulators. And I've led 2203 02:13:41,370 --> 02:13:44,520 numerous observers to argue that the American public's apparent 2204 02:13:44,520 --> 02:13:49,110 pursuit of a quote zero risk society threatens the nation's 2205 02:13:49,110 --> 02:13:54,450 political and economic stability wishes. If I read that, right, 2206 02:13:54,450 --> 02:13:57,510 you got like, No, this is perfect. So how do you want me 2207 02:13:57,510 --> 02:14:02,160 to like control people? That's exactly what we want. New 2208 02:14:02,160 --> 02:14:05,940 evidence appears reliable and informative. If it is consistent 2209 02:14:05,940 --> 02:14:08,670 with one's initial beliefs, contrary evidence tends to be 2210 02:14:08,670 --> 02:14:11,610 dismissed as unreliable. This is kind of the basis of conspiracy 2211 02:14:11,610 --> 02:14:15,120 theories, erroneous or unrepresentative. So it kind of 2212 02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:19,710 is a reverse of conspiracy theories. That shows the 2213 02:14:19,710 --> 02:14:24,090 government how to help people get on board with some agenda. 2214 02:14:25,470 --> 02:14:27,810 And then it goes into the Three Mile Island nuclear reactor and 2215 02:14:27,810 --> 02:14:30,450 79 provides a dramatic demonstration that factors 2216 02:14:30,450 --> 02:14:33,540 besides injury, death and property damage impose serious 2217 02:14:33,540 --> 02:14:37,170 costs, despite the fact that not a single person died and few 2218 02:14:37,170 --> 02:14:40,410 have any late and cancer fatalities are expected. No 2219 02:14:40,410 --> 02:14:43,470 other accident in our history has produced such costly social 2220 02:14:43,500 --> 02:14:46,650 impacts. The accident at Three Mile Island devastated the 2221 02:14:46,650 --> 02:14:48,120 utility that owned and operated 2222 02:14:48,900 --> 02:14:52,710 it all don't forget the movie. Yeah, no syndrome, which which 2223 02:14:52,710 --> 02:14:53,850 came out in Fonda, which 2224 02:14:53,850 --> 02:14:56,250 came out 12 days before that happened. 2225 02:14:56,820 --> 02:14:59,190 Yeah, well, there you go. And so 2226 02:14:59,190 --> 02:15:03,840 it goes on now. I want to give you the the meat of it. Although 2227 02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:08,010 TMI Three Mile Island, accent is extreme it is by no means unique 2228 02:15:08,040 --> 02:15:11,820 are the recent events resulting in enormous higher order impacts 2229 02:15:11,820 --> 02:15:14,580 include the chemical manufacturing accidents, Bhopal, 2230 02:15:14,580 --> 02:15:17,670 India, the pollution of Love Canal, New York, the Times 2231 02:15:17,670 --> 02:15:20,880 Beach, Missouri disasters launch of the space shuttle Challenger, 2232 02:15:21,090 --> 02:15:24,150 the meltdown of the nuclear reactor, Chernobyl etc, etc. And 2233 02:15:24,180 --> 02:15:27,990 here it is. An important concept that has emerged from the cycle 2234 02:15:28,020 --> 02:15:32,520 metric research is that the seriousness and higher order 2235 02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:37,500 impacts of an unfortunate event read determined in part by what 2236 02:15:37,500 --> 02:15:42,690 that event signals or portends. The infant informativeness, or 2237 02:15:42,690 --> 02:15:48,330 signal potential of an event is thus its potential social impact 2238 02:15:48,540 --> 02:15:52,560 appears to be systematically related to characteristics of 2239 02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:56,430 the hazard and the location of the event. With the factor space 2240 02:15:56,430 --> 02:16:00,120 described earlier. An accident that takes many lives may 2241 02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:05,070 produce relatively little social disturbance. It occurs as part 2242 02:16:05,070 --> 02:16:07,890 of a familiar and well understood system like a train 2243 02:16:07,890 --> 02:16:14,010 wreck. However, a small accident in an unfamiliar system, such as 2244 02:16:14,280 --> 02:16:20,910 nuclear reactor or recombinant DNA laboratory, may have immense 2245 02:16:20,910 --> 02:16:25,020 social consequences. If it is perceived as a harbinger of 2246 02:16:25,020 --> 02:16:28,770 further and possibly catastrophic mishaps. That is 2247 02:16:28,770 --> 02:16:33,900 your cyber war right there. No one dies. But you can say, Oh, 2248 02:16:33,930 --> 02:16:36,300 you I mean, you really don't. You don't understand why 2249 02:16:36,330 --> 02:16:39,480 we should just quit the show and go do a cyber war company. 2250 02:16:40,590 --> 02:16:43,020 There's so much money in that, well, maybe we should do both. 2251 02:16:43,170 --> 02:16:44,760 I think we could do it part time. 2252 02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:48,600 So here's the clip that relates to that clip, which I thought 2253 02:16:48,600 --> 02:16:51,870 was interesting. I was again, on C span watching these two guys 2254 02:16:51,870 --> 02:16:55,530 who wrote the book balance is on book TV. And they're talking 2255 02:16:55,530 --> 02:16:59,340 about the the economies of the various countries and how we can 2256 02:16:59,340 --> 02:17:01,350 get out of this mess we're in and why we need a balanced 2257 02:17:01,350 --> 02:17:03,540 budget, but we did has to be balanced a certain way because 2258 02:17:03,540 --> 02:17:06,180 we have to, we have emergency situations. But then they 2259 02:17:06,180 --> 02:17:09,990 dropped this one in a manufactured crisis clip 2260 02:17:10,020 --> 02:17:14,100 times, changes spurred by either a crisis in this country, we're 2261 02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:18,300 good when our backs against the wall. And other times technology 2262 02:17:18,450 --> 02:17:21,420 advancements help. How do you see those two playing a role in 2263 02:17:21,420 --> 02:17:22,710 your view of the future? 2264 02:17:23,969 --> 02:17:27,299 Well, it's a it's a great point. And where the country has risen 2265 02:17:27,299 --> 02:17:31,469 to great challenges have been economic crises, wars, one of 2266 02:17:31,469 --> 02:17:35,969 the reasons we were for the rule changes, is if I can be really 2267 02:17:35,969 --> 02:17:40,169 candid, almost manufactured crisis, politicians have very 2268 02:17:40,169 --> 02:17:43,649 difficult times in dealing with long term present value issues, 2269 02:17:43,649 --> 02:17:47,039 they need a crisis in the here and now and we may have to we 2270 02:17:47,039 --> 02:17:51,359 may have to manufacture that. Because if we don't, the problem 2271 02:17:51,359 --> 02:17:55,559 is as with other great powers over time, our ability to do all 2272 02:17:55,559 --> 02:17:58,319 the things that the American people today take for granted, 2273 02:17:58,919 --> 02:18:00,269 will simply diminish. 2274 02:18:01,109 --> 02:18:04,649 Exactly. And so these numbers help. 2275 02:18:05,700 --> 02:18:11,340 And so I sent this back to Ross, I went, Oh my God. I said this 2276 02:18:11,340 --> 02:18:16,080 is 87 cable television was just starting I mean it CNN had been 2277 02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:19,470 around for a couple of years. But it was every everyone had 2278 02:18:19,470 --> 02:18:23,010 big bass 40 channel basic cable. We had cell phones, which are 2279 02:18:23,010 --> 02:18:26,670 the size of VHS cassettes. Hello, VHS cassettes, what am I 2280 02:18:26,670 --> 02:18:31,860 even talking about? We had internet was paying finger and 2281 02:18:31,860 --> 02:18:36,060 gopher. And can you imagine that this is and when this was 2282 02:18:36,060 --> 02:18:40,440 starting, this is a bonanza. So he's now he's going to look for 2283 02:18:40,440 --> 02:18:43,290 us and see if there's been any updated research. But he says 2284 02:18:43,290 --> 02:18:47,430 this is a paper that was landmark at the time, and is 2285 02:18:47,430 --> 02:18:50,760 constantly referred to in the scientific community. And so he 2286 02:18:50,760 --> 02:18:56,130 said that maybe there may be something new. But he's he'll 2287 02:18:56,130 --> 02:18:58,350 find it for you'll find it for us if there's been new research, 2288 02:18:58,350 --> 02:19:01,350 but this is basically what everything started on. If you 2289 02:19:01,350 --> 02:19:04,440 correlate that back to 87. I mean, look at all the things 2290 02:19:04,440 --> 02:19:06,870 that have happened since then look at all the fantastic 2291 02:19:06,900 --> 02:19:10,260 manufactured crises we've had, including your y2k example. 2292 02:19:11,730 --> 02:19:18,000 Yeah. A lot of money was spent on that y2k thing. Yeah. I'm 2293 02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:21,480 gonna show my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the 2294 02:19:21,570 --> 02:19:23,910 people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. 2295 02:19:31,350 --> 02:19:34,260 And we do have a number of people to thank for the help and 2296 02:19:34,260 --> 02:19:39,810 support the show 528 And I'll rattle their names off. Evelyn 2297 02:19:39,810 --> 02:19:45,300 by Salas in Venezuela, as a matter of fact $100 My husband 2298 02:19:45,300 --> 02:19:49,830 Diego Medina is a huge note and he has donated I believe, a huge 2299 02:19:49,830 --> 02:19:55,140 no agenda fan. His birthday on July 7 Is today. Hey, so he's on 2300 02:19:55,140 --> 02:20:01,500 the list. Sean coffee in Annandale. A New South Wales 2301 02:20:02,040 --> 02:20:05,550 Boehner turn donor watching the Dakotas how to make money 2302 02:20:05,550 --> 02:20:09,150 selling drugs and backed up by the house. Excuse me back to buy 2303 02:20:09,150 --> 02:20:13,950 the house. I live in slaves. Slaves the winter of the wire is 2304 02:20:13,950 --> 02:20:18,330 in both slaves. No need to read on air. Okay, we won't. Matthew 2305 02:20:18,330 --> 02:20:24,360 Yates, Fairport, New York at 436. Vaughn glitch gah in Salem, 2306 02:20:24,360 --> 02:20:34,260 Oregon 7777 Sam Minar in Box Hill, South Australia Victoria, 2307 02:20:34,920 --> 02:20:39,210 or South someplace Victoria anyway, Australia 7713 Glen 2308 02:20:39,210 --> 02:20:44,850 Risio in Charlottesville, Virginia 7713 We have a rather 2309 02:20:44,850 --> 02:20:50,700 long note here when you look it over I think Kieran in gray in 2310 02:20:50,700 --> 02:20:54,060 Glenwood New South Wales we have a lot of Australians coming 2311 02:20:54,300 --> 02:20:55,890 forward today for some reason 2312 02:20:55,890 --> 02:20:58,890 you know why because the everything's in turmoil there 2313 02:20:58,890 --> 02:21:04,590 and then and you I've noticed this when we when you do news 2314 02:21:04,590 --> 02:21:08,370 about a certain country and we talked about the the New 2315 02:21:08,370 --> 02:21:12,000 Zealanders going to Australia for jobs I got a lot of email 2316 02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:15,570 about that. And now people feel involved in the show and then 2317 02:21:15,570 --> 02:21:18,000 like Oh, hold on, hold on a second. This and I got a lot of 2318 02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:21,360 stories. The show notes are usually filled with all kinds of 2319 02:21:21,360 --> 02:21:24,660 interesting Australian and New Zealand news. No different 2320 02:21:24,660 --> 02:21:25,080 today. 2321 02:21:25,260 --> 02:21:28,920 Well Kieran is apparently been watching since show 25 and just 2322 02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:31,710 gave for the first time he feels like kinda like a douche. But 2323 02:21:31,980 --> 02:21:36,030 the mail we sent him on Saturday or our Saturday, which I think 2324 02:21:36,030 --> 02:21:38,880 is Thursday of last year in Australia. I don't know. 2325 02:21:39,840 --> 02:21:42,120 Whatever the case is, it was right at the top of his box and 2326 02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:45,420 he says okay, I give in. Keys Shoemaker in Jacksonville, 2327 02:21:45,420 --> 02:21:50,010 Florida. 7713 Joe Collins is 7730 in Woodbridge, Virginia. 2328 02:21:50,670 --> 02:21:54,930 He's actually sir, yo ho. I want to make sure that he gets that 2329 02:21:54,960 --> 02:22:03,060 call out. Right, right. Jesse brunette brunette 75 in Sudbury, 2330 02:22:03,060 --> 02:22:08,040 Ontario. I'm no longer a Hoser I'm now a donor. Much love from 2331 02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:11,910 Sudbury, Ontario. Big Nico loves. Yep. Please send karma to 2332 02:22:11,910 --> 02:22:16,740 my love. Alex. He got me into the show earlier this year. Some 2333 02:22:16,740 --> 02:22:21,600 pictures. Get some karma at the end. Yep. James Howard. 7413 2334 02:22:21,600 --> 02:22:24,870 Indianapolis, Indiana Pat Derry 7413. 2335 02:22:25,530 --> 02:22:28,650 These still a lot of our seven 2336 02:22:28,650 --> 02:22:34,740 437 7430s coming in late. Harvey Lee 7413 in just Washington. 2337 02:22:35,010 --> 02:22:37,500 Federal Way somewhere federal ways that is town? I don't think 2338 02:22:37,500 --> 02:22:42,030 so. No. I don't know. I'm sure way Deming $73 in Anchorage, 2339 02:22:42,030 --> 02:22:45,660 Alaska. Michael Kyrin 66. 2340 02:22:49,770 --> 02:22:54,360 He says he wants to win the damn time in my spreadsheet. I'm 2341 02:22:54,360 --> 02:22:58,110 gonna hold on. Scroll down and scroll all the way back up. 2342 02:22:58,470 --> 02:23:01,350 You said wish I had my night ring bought. I understand it's 2343 02:23:01,350 --> 02:23:04,890 hard to ship to Missoura Yeah, all right. No, 2344 02:23:05,160 --> 02:23:06,300 I think the Knights will get 2345 02:23:06,420 --> 02:23:09,660 kind of a way of saying Hey, fuck you with your ring. Yeah, 2346 02:23:09,660 --> 02:23:09,780 it's 2347 02:23:10,650 --> 02:23:17,070 trying to say yeah. Jacob Jacob Griffith in six minutes. He's in 2348 02:23:17,070 --> 02:23:21,000 Raleigh, North Carolina. Anthony Rodriguez 16 at 16 A Waynesboro, 2349 02:23:21,000 --> 02:23:27,870 Virginia. James Howard 6969 in Indianapolis. 2350 02:23:31,500 --> 02:23:35,490 Very close. 1234448 2351 02:23:35,490 --> 02:23:38,820 By the way Howard wants to do James wants to say I like to 2352 02:23:38,820 --> 02:23:41,400 call it the guy from the last show who wouldn't donate because 2353 02:23:41,400 --> 02:23:47,130 of drones as a freeloading? Douchebag that was a bullshit 2354 02:23:47,130 --> 02:23:49,830 excuse. I'm firmly convinced that the no agenda show does 2355 02:23:49,830 --> 02:23:54,330 more good than bad. That might be causing any maybe cause by 2356 02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:56,850 any show funding eventually migrating to the government 2357 02:23:56,850 --> 02:23:57,900 through taxes. Yeah, 2358 02:23:57,900 --> 02:24:01,410 well, of course there's money that we pay our taxes believe 2359 02:24:01,410 --> 02:24:04,350 me, the last thing we want is for them to that's the easy way 2360 02:24:04,350 --> 02:24:08,880 to get us taxes too much tax but then my money goes to local 2361 02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:10,590 people in Texas. 2362 02:24:11,280 --> 02:24:15,150 Like media LLC, that's where most of you Yeah, of course 5670 2363 02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:22,350 At least for now. Pedro Gonzalez Gonzalez in 55 Divide New York 2364 02:24:22,350 --> 02:24:27,150 New York. Sam men are bucks Hill south. Whatever bucks Hill South 2365 02:24:27,150 --> 02:24:30,780 is in Australia again. 50 Double nickels on the dime. We get one 2366 02:24:30,810 --> 02:24:37,380 a show. Can Can Catriona cat throat Catriona? Thanks Scott 2367 02:24:37,380 --> 02:24:43,710 Scott Catriona photography $2.33 Christopher Walker 50 David 2368 02:24:43,710 --> 02:24:49,050 Becker 50. Chuck Boyce 50 Patrick Mac Makeham. It'd be the 2369 02:24:49,050 --> 02:24:52,080 last 50 He's in I hate to mention, but Matt Carver's in 2370 02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:57,300 Sheboygan and Pat maqams in Vermont, New York. Are you going 2371 02:24:57,300 --> 02:24:59,400 to want to thank them and everyone else who's contributed 2372 02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:01,860 lesser amounts for the show 528 2373 02:25:02,010 --> 02:25:07,230 We do indeed. Thank you because, well, there you go. Could you 2374 02:25:07,230 --> 02:25:10,380 get any of this conversation? I think, by the way, just so you 2375 02:25:10,380 --> 02:25:14,610 know, none of that was rehearsed. I had no idea what 2376 02:25:14,610 --> 02:25:17,250 clips John had. I didn't know he was coming up with that. I mean, 2377 02:25:17,280 --> 02:25:20,580 that was I think we float in and out for like, 25 minutes there, 2378 02:25:20,580 --> 02:25:23,460 John. Just going back and forth. That was pretty outrageous. 2379 02:25:23,609 --> 02:25:24,359 It happens. 2380 02:25:25,410 --> 02:25:26,640 We don't talk. 2381 02:25:28,110 --> 02:25:36,420 No, we don't. I mean, come on. Why would we? Really? Stinky he 2382 02:25:36,420 --> 02:25:40,290 gave me crap. This guy, Adam curry on the Twitter. I do. 2383 02:25:41,190 --> 02:25:42,900 Crazy analysis is 2384 02:25:43,170 --> 02:25:46,800 Oh, is that what I said? Or did I say stop with the amateur 2385 02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:51,450 analysis? Tail did not fall off. slavers? I didn't say shut up. 2386 02:25:51,450 --> 02:25:54,900 Slave. You said the tail fell off. I said no. Didn't fall off. 2387 02:25:54,900 --> 02:25:57,750 Never said it fell off. I says it could have fallen off. It's 2388 02:25:57,750 --> 02:25:58,230 not what 2389 02:25:58,230 --> 02:26:04,980 you said. Ah. That's not what you said. Oh, that's not what 2390 02:26:04,980 --> 02:26:07,500 you said. You said the tail fell. That's exactly what you 2391 02:26:07,500 --> 02:26:08,730 said. Oh, no, no, no, you 2392 02:26:08,730 --> 02:26:09,450 can't reach with 2393 02:26:09,480 --> 02:26:12,870 tweets. Okay. Should I read it to you? No. Yeah, no, I'm 2394 02:26:12,870 --> 02:26:16,140 reading it to you now. To you the guy that's always so by the 2395 02:26:16,140 --> 02:26:19,470 way you your artwork is beautiful on your Twitter. What 2396 02:26:19,470 --> 02:26:21,510 is that? Is that? Van Gogh? 2397 02:26:22,440 --> 02:26:23,520 No, it's me. 2398 02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:27,840 You did that? Yeah. That that green thing? 2399 02:26:28,020 --> 02:26:30,540 Yeah. Really? Gray Marsh farms. 2400 02:26:30,660 --> 02:26:33,960 That's beautiful. Yeah, how can I yell at you now you're 2401 02:26:33,960 --> 02:26:34,980 sensitive man. 2402 02:26:35,370 --> 02:26:36,780 I am I probably 2403 02:26:38,910 --> 02:26:44,400 was about the airplane and use and you said Yeah, and yeah. guy 2404 02:26:44,400 --> 02:26:47,130 sitting in the bathroom. blew it up tail fell off. 2405 02:26:47,340 --> 02:26:50,610 That's exactly what I said that made this up. Okay, 2406 02:26:51,060 --> 02:26:55,080 now you're gonna have to wait. I will find it and you tweet a lot 2407 02:26:55,980 --> 02:26:58,290 more How annoying is that? Is 2408 02:26:58,830 --> 02:27:03,150 How many followers do you have? Are you tweet the more followers 2409 02:27:03,150 --> 02:27:06,840 you get? I don't like logging if you don't blog much nobody 2410 02:27:06,840 --> 02:27:09,690 follows your blog ever keep looking. 2411 02:27:10,290 --> 02:27:16,710 I don't I don't hear I'm gonna kids playing you do tweet a lot 2412 02:27:16,710 --> 02:27:17,730 of nonsense 2413 02:27:18,750 --> 02:27:22,140 tweet any nonsense Yeah, my some of this stuff that seems like 2414 02:27:22,140 --> 02:27:24,990 nonsense. It's just me responding to someone you have 2415 02:27:24,990 --> 02:27:30,150 to read those Hey, by the way, you know when they mentioned 2416 02:27:30,150 --> 02:27:33,450 earlier in the show that guy who did they stay mentioned that 2417 02:27:33,450 --> 02:27:37,620 Chinese version of Twitter and then when they go to English, we 2418 02:27:37,620 --> 02:27:39,150 should be members of this. 2419 02:27:39,449 --> 02:27:43,139 Okay, hold on a second. So I gotta find it. Yeah, I found it 2420 02:27:43,709 --> 02:27:47,459 and it was to Eve connected and that's what I responded to it 2421 02:27:47,459 --> 02:27:52,349 wasn't even to you and Eve connected had because this was 2422 02:27:52,409 --> 02:27:58,019 it was valid. It said it's only the six week cycle if it's 2423 02:27:58,019 --> 02:28:01,499 terror related and you said how did the tail fall off? 2424 02:28:02,400 --> 02:28:05,550 Ah, is that saying how did the tail fall off saying that the 2425 02:28:05,550 --> 02:28:10,200 tail fell off? Yeah, you said and you can rewind the tape Yes. 2426 02:28:10,320 --> 02:28:13,260 You got that? Yes. So you said the tail fell yes when 2427 02:28:13,260 --> 02:28:16,200 you question how the tail fell off that means you believe the 2428 02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:20,160 tail fell off which is should all which shouldn't be with two 2429 02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:21,780 F's not one by the way 2430 02:28:21,810 --> 02:28:28,230 whatever. It was very funny. Belly Yes that one and 2431 02:28:28,230 --> 02:28:31,410 then I said all I said was please stop with the amateur 2432 02:28:31,410 --> 02:28:35,310 analysis the tail did not fall off and then you came back and 2433 02:28:35,310 --> 02:28:39,120 tail on it and fell off and that No it did not fall off. It was 2434 02:28:39,120 --> 02:28:40,140 chopped off 2435 02:28:40,500 --> 02:28:43,080 and then it chopped off it was get banged and fell off. 2436 02:28:43,110 --> 02:28:46,110 No it did not fall off. And then you come back and you say 2437 02:28:46,380 --> 02:28:49,770 on there this knot on there. It's fallen off. 2438 02:28:50,220 --> 02:28:53,910 It's not it doesn't falling off is different than being chopped 2439 02:28:53,910 --> 02:28:54,450 off. 2440 02:28:55,170 --> 02:28:58,110 It wasn't chopped up. There was no big knife out of the sky 2441 02:28:58,110 --> 02:29:01,140 chopping it off it No, no off the plate. 2442 02:29:01,170 --> 02:29:05,070 It got chopped off by the sidewall it was chopped off by 2443 02:29:05,070 --> 02:29:08,910 the sea wall and then you come back and say this is Twitter not 2444 02:29:08,910 --> 02:29:12,330 a place for your Shut up slave invectives which meant I had to 2445 02:29:12,330 --> 02:29:16,650 go to the dictionary to look up the word invectives. Which 2446 02:29:16,650 --> 02:29:21,360 means, which means like, which is why you use the word, which 2447 02:29:21,360 --> 02:29:25,080 means insulting or whatever, I didn't insult you and then I 2448 02:29:25,080 --> 02:29:28,890 said, categorizing amateurish and grossly inaccurate 2449 02:29:28,890 --> 02:29:32,160 conjecture is hardly invective. 2450 02:29:32,640 --> 02:29:35,250 The tail did not that tweet I had given up on this 2451 02:29:35,250 --> 02:29:38,940 conversation already. The tail did not fall off. No, no, there 2452 02:29:38,940 --> 02:29:42,840 was a tail on there. Yeah, sure. It was a shop dog. 2453 02:29:43,350 --> 02:29:46,800 Regardless, it did prove the point that Twitter is nothing 2454 02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:49,170 but a big global schoolyard of people 2455 02:29:49,170 --> 02:29:51,600 just bad is Google Plus No. And I 2456 02:29:51,600 --> 02:29:55,230 loved your article, by the way, love the PC Magazine, which I 2457 02:29:55,230 --> 02:29:58,230 think was Google Plus blows chunks. Was that the title of 2458 02:29:58,230 --> 02:29:58,560 it? 2459 02:29:58,800 --> 02:30:06,810 It was close. Got some guys on Google Plus just as usual? Holy 2460 02:30:06,810 --> 02:30:12,450 crap warehouse so how can Google Plus be dead? Where else can I 2461 02:30:12,450 --> 02:30:13,920 post a picture of Rob? 2462 02:30:13,950 --> 02:30:16,170 This is what a guy said he didn't say it was dead by the 2463 02:30:16,170 --> 02:30:16,500 way. 2464 02:30:16,680 --> 02:30:19,530 I never said was dead. I just thought it was a loser. He's 2465 02:30:19,530 --> 02:30:24,360 Where else can I post a picture of Robert Scoble with a caption 2466 02:30:24,480 --> 02:30:31,620 and get 500 page views and 500,000 500,000 Page bots, bots, 2467 02:30:31,740 --> 02:30:35,640 and besides the bots, but my comment was, if that's true, 2468 02:30:35,670 --> 02:30:37,470 this thing is worse off than I thought 2469 02:30:37,470 --> 02:30:41,670 exactly. Who wants to be a part of that as a part of a picture 2470 02:30:41,670 --> 02:30:48,240 of Robert Scoble getting 500 million views five was 5 billion 2471 02:30:48,240 --> 02:30:51,510 the number right? Yeah, that was I just don't like Google 2472 02:30:51,750 --> 02:30:55,560 Finance. It's just annoying. It's it's Twitter on steroids. 2473 02:30:55,590 --> 02:30:59,820 Take this, take this. Now. If you go and look. Now, all the 2474 02:30:59,820 --> 02:31:02,370 people that have been at these dinner parties, especially the 2475 02:31:02,370 --> 02:31:05,640 women, if you look if they have Twitter accounts, if you look at 2476 02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:08,370 their Twitter accounts, these are highly educated, 2477 02:31:08,430 --> 02:31:13,770 sophisticated, very, very, very respectable women. They get on 2478 02:31:13,770 --> 02:31:20,850 Twitter, and it's like, you Republicans suck. You're dumb. 2479 02:31:21,540 --> 02:31:22,890 You're dumb Republican 2480 02:31:22,890 --> 02:31:24,090 is literally 2481 02:31:24,090 --> 02:31:27,420 that I'm not making these words up. I'm like, You are an 2482 02:31:27,420 --> 02:31:31,800 intelligent woman. And you're sitting on Twitter going era you 2483 02:31:31,800 --> 02:31:36,360 Republicans are just lame. It's like you're on the schoolyard 2484 02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:42,750 yelling to the other side. What is this behavior? What is it? We 2485 02:31:42,750 --> 02:31:48,240 are all still six years old? And you and I were doing the same? 2486 02:31:48,930 --> 02:31:52,410 Yes, six. Why? No. Well, okay, now anyway. 2487 02:31:53,850 --> 02:31:57,090 We got to finish up the dinner. You never finished the show? 2488 02:31:57,090 --> 02:31:57,390 Yes. 2489 02:31:57,390 --> 02:32:00,330 Hold on. John. I have like 20 things I got to do. One is 2490 02:32:00,330 --> 02:32:05,460 boruch.org/and trying to play that for the fast past 10 2491 02:32:05,460 --> 02:32:10,020 minutes and not that one. We got it. I got like birthdays and 2492 02:32:10,020 --> 02:32:18,270 stuff. Oh. All kinds of important. Evelyn Becerra says 2493 02:32:18,270 --> 02:32:21,660 Happy Birthday to your hubby. Diego Medina who celebrates 2494 02:32:21,690 --> 02:32:26,610 today that being July 7 In the year of our Lord 2013 country on 2495 02:32:26,610 --> 02:32:32,010 a Scots congratulates her other half turns 33 today and 2496 02:32:32,010 --> 02:32:35,850 celebrating tomorrow. The lovely and talented Miss Mickey will be 2497 02:32:35,850 --> 02:32:38,430 celebrating her birthday so that should be a fun day. Happy 2498 02:32:38,430 --> 02:32:41,550 birthday to all of you from your buddies and lovers here at the 2499 02:32:41,550 --> 02:32:47,430 no agenda show. Then we have a couple of titles. Sir Dr. 2500 02:32:47,430 --> 02:32:51,900 Sharkey now becomes barren sir Dr. Sharkey, protector of the 2501 02:32:51,930 --> 02:32:56,610 Great Smoky Mountains. And Sir Mark Dytham becomes the Baron of 2502 02:32:56,610 --> 02:33:01,440 Tokyo and Dame Astrid which I don't know why it's not on here 2503 02:33:01,440 --> 02:33:08,400 I'm putting on right now. Astrid becomes the VI Countess. Is that 2504 02:33:08,400 --> 02:33:11,490 how you pronounce vi Countess? Yeah, the VI Countess Countess 2505 02:33:11,490 --> 02:33:17,100 of Tokyo. What does she get to do as a as a as a VI Countess? 2506 02:33:17,100 --> 02:33:17,970 Is there some special 2507 02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:25,410 execute anyone at her own will? Just like the Brits. 2508 02:33:29,220 --> 02:33:35,100 She can execute anyone at her beckon at her beck and call, and 2509 02:33:35,100 --> 02:33:39,360 we have oh, this is very nice. We have a night and we have one 2510 02:33:39,360 --> 02:33:42,780 or two. Let me see. We have 19 to do so let's go out the swords 2511 02:33:42,780 --> 02:33:46,260 here. John. If you can grab your sword then that will be perfect. 2512 02:33:47,370 --> 02:33:50,670 John Reichert or I think it'd be Reichard, we think would be 2513 02:33:50,670 --> 02:33:55,740 Riker, John. Ri ch Margarita Reichert. I record record. I'll 2514 02:33:55,740 --> 02:33:58,860 take this later. John, would you please step forward because you 2515 02:33:58,860 --> 02:34:01,230 have contributed to the best podcast and university amount of 2516 02:34:01,230 --> 02:34:05,070 $1,000 more so we hereby pronounce the Sir John Knight 2517 02:34:05,070 --> 02:34:07,620 and the norgine Roundtable and for you, I have reserved hookers 2518 02:34:07,620 --> 02:34:09,690 and blow over and poison Chardonnay hot pants and booze. 2519 02:34:09,690 --> 02:34:12,630 longhaired heavy metal guys and Scotch went to be a little less 2520 02:34:12,630 --> 02:34:15,210 limited Rosae Gosh isn't sock a buck in the middle of bar hits 2521 02:34:15,210 --> 02:34:18,120 and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts and mutton and Mead 2522 02:34:18,330 --> 02:34:21,810 right here at the table that is round with all of our Knights 2523 02:34:21,840 --> 02:34:26,640 and Dames. And of course, along with this comes a certificate 2524 02:34:26,640 --> 02:34:29,520 and you should be receiving that at some point. 2525 02:34:30,000 --> 02:34:35,130 Either point of business of announcement. No agenda show I'd 2526 02:34:35,130 --> 02:34:39,030 like to announce that Eric de shield has taken over the 2527 02:34:39,030 --> 02:34:43,950 delivery and customer service regarding the rings. Yeah. 2528 02:34:45,480 --> 02:34:47,190 That means rings are really coming. 2529 02:34:47,580 --> 02:34:51,360 So if you did so make sure you send your note to a no edge 2530 02:34:51,390 --> 02:34:55,620 rings at no agenda. nation.com And I might add a lot of the 2531 02:34:55,620 --> 02:34:59,850 people that didn't get rings. Mimi gave up finally she says a 2532 02:34:59,850 --> 02:35:04,350 guy I says, I said what's your ring sizes? I don't know. She's 2533 02:35:04,350 --> 02:35:09,390 once you find out she's I don't care. It just became this kind 2534 02:35:09,390 --> 02:35:11,730 of you know she couldn't get information she'd be good and 2535 02:35:11,730 --> 02:35:17,520 she but she's not like Eric Eric is a born you somebody should 2536 02:35:17,520 --> 02:35:23,010 just hire him for like $250,000 to manage customer relations. He 2537 02:35:23,010 --> 02:35:25,650 could run Amazon he actually wrote a customer relations 2538 02:35:25,650 --> 02:35:26,790 management package 2539 02:35:26,790 --> 02:35:29,610 and he's extremely good at it. Yeah, 2540 02:35:29,640 --> 02:35:33,780 I mean, he's been the most annoying but when it comes to 2541 02:35:33,780 --> 02:35:37,260 customers, but this is a please hire him. 2542 02:35:37,320 --> 02:35:44,250 Can I can I give an outsider's view he is fantastic when it 2543 02:35:44,250 --> 02:35:49,050 comes to this kind of stuff. He went and getting things done and 2544 02:35:49,260 --> 02:35:53,070 you know, I'm I'm very Oh, I'm horrible when you got to sign 2545 02:35:53,070 --> 02:35:55,800 this or approve this or whatever. And he's very good at 2546 02:35:55,950 --> 02:35:58,980 coming back at it and asking and you know, never annoyed or 2547 02:35:58,980 --> 02:36:01,980 whatever, never annoying. And eventually I'll do what he wants 2548 02:36:01,980 --> 02:36:07,290 me to do. For some reason, within the family, this is 2549 02:36:07,290 --> 02:36:12,240 nightmarish. I just see. See it happen? Like, wow, I don't know 2550 02:36:12,240 --> 02:36:16,320 you guys. All you guys. This is funny. The Dvorak family is 2551 02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:16,860 funny. 2552 02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:22,320 We're a larious. You think we're funny? Yeah. Anyway, so Eric is 2553 02:36:22,320 --> 02:36:26,040 back in charge of this and we'll catch up to all the you know, 2554 02:36:26,040 --> 02:36:28,980 back stuff which sent him a note Yeah, rings it no agenda 2555 02:36:28,980 --> 02:36:31,860 nation.com. And if you're gonna want if you got a ring that 2556 02:36:31,860 --> 02:36:33,990 you'd need, because just got your knighthood or something, 2557 02:36:33,990 --> 02:36:36,810 you just send them to a mailing address, which, if you have a 2558 02:36:36,810 --> 02:36:40,830 title, you use something I don't know, do you put a form together 2559 02:36:40,830 --> 02:36:41,880 and all be taken care of? 2560 02:36:41,910 --> 02:36:45,840 Yes. And he's also working on the special 33 bags, all kinds 2561 02:36:45,840 --> 02:36:47,850 of stuff. It's good to have him back in the saddle. We're very 2562 02:36:47,850 --> 02:36:51,450 happy. And but also, if you do have a position to run an entire 2563 02:36:51,450 --> 02:36:54,990 customer service of Amazon or eBay or something like that, 2564 02:36:54,990 --> 02:36:57,660 yeah, you this is the guy you need to hire. I would be very 2565 02:36:57,660 --> 02:36:58,260 sad. 2566 02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:02,820 Because we'd be screwed. But he could probably still do it on a 2567 02:37:02,820 --> 02:37:07,740 Sunday. I don't know he's busy. He likes to stay busy. So nice 2568 02:37:07,740 --> 02:37:08,460 shape form. 2569 02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:11,940 So I did kind of I'd kind of finished out the dinner. I mean, 2570 02:37:11,940 --> 02:37:13,650 I had I hit everything right? 2571 02:37:14,010 --> 02:37:17,460 Eat. Oh, everybody say Did they all drink? Were there bunches? 2572 02:37:17,460 --> 02:37:20,160 lushes were they just circumspect because they didn't 2573 02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:23,790 want to get outed on the show for drinking too. Oh, 2574 02:37:23,790 --> 02:37:26,880 no, no, very interesting. So first of all, it started you 2575 02:37:26,880 --> 02:37:30,720 know, Lorie, who is an artist she has a 3d printer now. And we 2576 02:37:30,720 --> 02:37:34,440 all had to wait for her to her 3d printed the napkin rings to 2577 02:37:34,440 --> 02:37:40,680 be completed before we could eat. She was making 3d printing 2578 02:37:40,680 --> 02:37:41,670 napkin rings 2579 02:37:41,970 --> 02:37:44,520 Yeah, well that's what you know. I've thought about getting a 3d 2580 02:37:44,520 --> 02:37:49,110 That's all you do. I ended up doing I don't need more napkins. 2581 02:37:50,790 --> 02:37:55,500 What do you make napkin ring? Okay, great. That she lowered 2582 02:37:55,500 --> 02:37:57,990 the bar. She says she lowered the bar because it's my turn 2583 02:37:57,990 --> 02:38:02,850 next. And she she made gourmet hamburgers. Oh, 2584 02:38:03,030 --> 02:38:06,270 she lowered the bar. That was her excuse because you're next 2585 02:38:06,270 --> 02:38:07,860 and she figures you're like allows she 2586 02:38:07,860 --> 02:38:11,010 did she didn't say because I'm next. But she said I'm lowering 2587 02:38:11,010 --> 02:38:14,430 the bar because she didn't want this thing to turn into. This is 2588 02:38:14,430 --> 02:38:18,240 a very interesting group. I mean, we none of us agrees on 2589 02:38:18,240 --> 02:38:21,030 anything. But yet it's a safe environment where we all can go 2590 02:38:21,030 --> 02:38:26,220 nuts. It's hard to find that and with the knowledge, because 2591 02:38:26,220 --> 02:38:30,270 Laurie actually said to Pennebaker, oh by the way, 2592 02:38:30,420 --> 02:38:35,880 everything you say is going to be in the pot. In case you 2593 02:38:35,880 --> 02:38:38,820 forgot to notify you everything you say is on Adam show 2594 02:38:38,820 --> 02:38:39,480 tomorrow. 2595 02:38:40,080 --> 02:38:43,620 I am sure there's a few things you've left out. Well, 2596 02:38:43,650 --> 02:38:46,620 they deserve Well, of course, they deserve it now because 2597 02:38:46,620 --> 02:38:48,900 they're all you know, Ross and Laurie. They're getting 2598 02:38:48,900 --> 02:38:52,020 interviewed by NPR so now they're celebrities. So now 2599 02:38:52,020 --> 02:38:52,860 they're fair game. 2600 02:38:55,620 --> 02:38:59,520 Guys, I think I take everybody's fair game if they show up with 2601 02:38:59,520 --> 02:38:59,850 you. 2602 02:38:59,880 --> 02:39:04,770 Yeah, so the pennant Baker's lovely I don't know if they're 2603 02:39:04,770 --> 02:39:08,490 either going to be in the in the core group. But this this was, I 2604 02:39:08,490 --> 02:39:13,740 think, at the end there, because we did have two vodka drinks. 2605 02:39:14,310 --> 02:39:17,190 Some not champagne. What do you call it? Prosecco. I 2606 02:39:17,190 --> 02:39:18,750 know that you really can't drink. 2607 02:39:20,730 --> 02:39:24,090 Um, you know what I have to admit, I'm very very careful 2608 02:39:24,120 --> 02:39:27,300 during these dinners, because I need to record in my head. I 2609 02:39:27,300 --> 02:39:30,720 can't be like writing stuff down or like talking to just talking 2610 02:39:30,720 --> 02:39:35,850 to the microphone. And Nikki is actually she's, she's hardcore 2611 02:39:35,850 --> 02:39:40,140 during these dinners. Because she's the one that says guys I 2612 02:39:40,140 --> 02:39:50,370 have a gun. I love my gun. Or during the during the, the the 2613 02:39:50,370 --> 02:39:54,810 abortion debate Nikki's like, you know, I got I got him I got 2614 02:39:54,810 --> 02:39:58,890 a problem with this abortion thing. Like yes, she's great. 2615 02:39:58,920 --> 02:40:02,640 You know, she is She's like, just you know, you gotta fire 2616 02:40:02,670 --> 02:40:05,820 here's Mickey. Oh, I have a can of gasoline. I'm just gonna 2617 02:40:05,820 --> 02:40:10,530 throw it right on top. And it's fantastic because she she can 2618 02:40:10,530 --> 02:40:14,430 lay into people like anybody I just sat back I'm like okay, 2619 02:40:14,430 --> 02:40:17,760 this is good I'm gonna watch this one take place and it's 2620 02:40:17,760 --> 02:40:20,790 just it's nice to see these different opinions and I did get 2621 02:40:20,790 --> 02:40:21,960 a beautiful email 2622 02:40:23,130 --> 02:40:24,390 from one of those the wine 2623 02:40:25,890 --> 02:40:30,690 we had I don't remember there was yes I do. It was a no I 2624 02:40:30,690 --> 02:40:34,380 don't remember was it was it was a local wine. We have good wine 2625 02:40:34,380 --> 02:40:38,880 here in Texas. We're pretty good wine. I think I John, I don't 2626 02:40:38,880 --> 02:40:40,890 remember why did you do have to record this now? 2627 02:40:41,280 --> 02:40:43,560 No, I'm just wondering I just thought it might you might think 2628 02:40:43,560 --> 02:40:46,770 it was a interesting group. But I think it wasn't last time and 2629 02:40:46,770 --> 02:40:50,790 very high in Austin kind of toy. hoity toity. Yes. Probably roll 2630 02:40:50,790 --> 02:40:54,300 out some Latour or something? No, like, like our like our 2631 02:40:54,300 --> 02:40:55,320 architects do 2632 02:40:55,350 --> 02:40:58,920 know we don't have to bring casually they bring a six liter 2633 02:40:58,920 --> 02:41:03,060 bottle. I don't think anyone of this dinner has looked to our 2634 02:41:03,060 --> 02:41:07,740 money. This is intellectual hoity toity university people 2635 02:41:08,130 --> 02:41:13,830 that do okay. We're not super rich. We're not sure it's drink 2636 02:41:13,830 --> 02:41:14,400 good wine. 2637 02:41:15,420 --> 02:41:19,380 litoria do $6,000 bottle of a tour. Yeah, 2638 02:41:19,560 --> 02:41:21,990 yeah, but that's a six liter special bottle. That's really 2639 02:41:21,990 --> 02:41:25,590 old. I mean, this this different than Yeah, I would say Latour is 2640 02:41:25,590 --> 02:41:29,040 out. Yeah, it's because of the Chinese by the way, I'd say that 2641 02:41:29,040 --> 02:41:31,470 used to get on store. I've gotten the tours cheapest. 50 2642 02:41:31,470 --> 02:41:32,220 bucks a bottle. 2643 02:41:32,250 --> 02:41:34,950 Yeah. Well, I would serve that if I had it. 2644 02:41:35,610 --> 02:41:38,220 But you know, it's good. Similarly good wine. 2645 02:41:38,490 --> 02:41:39,780 Okay, well, I'm next. 2646 02:41:39,900 --> 02:41:42,840 I'm sorry. I'm just gonna stop talking. I'm 2647 02:41:42,840 --> 02:41:47,280 sorry. It's alright. So what I did get a beautiful email from 2648 02:41:47,280 --> 02:41:51,330 one of the women at the dinner is saying, hey, you know, we 2649 02:41:51,330 --> 02:41:55,650 feel so fortunate that we can have dinner with friends who 2650 02:41:55,650 --> 02:41:58,620 don't necessarily have the same opinion because every other 2651 02:41:58,620 --> 02:42:02,670 place we go, everyone set talks and all nods in agreement. And 2652 02:42:02,670 --> 02:42:04,140 it's this boring. 2653 02:42:05,430 --> 02:42:06,960 Boring who needs that? Yeah, 2654 02:42:06,960 --> 02:42:10,260 right. Exactly. Exactly. So now you and I have 2655 02:42:10,590 --> 02:42:13,710 by the way, I wouldn't say this. I have been in these situations 2656 02:42:13,710 --> 02:42:18,450 because you know, obviously my opinion is is libertarian style 2657 02:42:18,450 --> 02:42:20,220 and it has certain things when you get a group especially 2658 02:42:20,220 --> 02:42:22,740 around the Bay Area, everyone's a Democrat. You get in these 2659 02:42:22,740 --> 02:42:25,710 groups that are all nodding like you say, and then if you start 2660 02:42:25,710 --> 02:42:27,780 bringing some of this stuff up, you will have one or two of 2661 02:42:27,780 --> 02:42:29,730 these people that will never speak to you again ever life 2662 02:42:29,730 --> 02:42:30,360 ever again, 2663 02:42:30,390 --> 02:42:35,670 though avoid you like the plague. Yeah, yep, true. Toxic 2664 02:42:35,700 --> 02:42:40,290 but now you and I you my friend, and I have to work on the dinner 2665 02:42:40,320 --> 02:42:43,560 the next dinner because it's going to be me. We've done the 2666 02:42:43,560 --> 02:42:49,080 double dip recession slave stew now we have to do something. I 2667 02:42:49,080 --> 02:42:50,550 got to up my game. 2668 02:42:50,940 --> 02:42:51,750 Coco van 2669 02:42:53,250 --> 02:42:56,910 Hmm. Interesting. Do you think that's the way to go Coco van? 2670 02:42:57,870 --> 02:43:00,480 Yeah, did fly. People haven't had it for a while and when you 2671 02:43:00,480 --> 02:43:02,340 have it so it's always a pleasant dish. 2672 02:43:02,370 --> 02:43:03,120 Yes. Yeah, it's 2673 02:43:03,120 --> 02:43:06,450 true. Okay, but you know what, I think it would really do it for 2674 02:43:06,450 --> 02:43:09,600 you in this group. Oryx 2675 02:43:13,230 --> 02:43:16,470 where first we show a little movie of me killing the oryx. 2676 02:43:18,780 --> 02:43:21,150 And then and then still holding. 2677 02:43:21,900 --> 02:43:29,460 It's like, here it is. Bon appetit, baby. Oh, wow. Okay, so 2678 02:43:29,460 --> 02:43:31,680 that was the that was the dinner. It was very 2679 02:43:31,680 --> 02:43:34,920 entertaining, very educational. I feel very fortunate that I can 2680 02:43:34,920 --> 02:43:37,740 bring this information to y'all because we would not have known 2681 02:43:37,740 --> 02:43:40,590 about this type of research. We would not there's a lot of stuff 2682 02:43:40,590 --> 02:43:43,470 we wouldn't know. And so I hope to keep it keep it all common. 2683 02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:49,110 Do we I think we should just briefly touch on Egypt. Before 2684 02:43:49,110 --> 02:43:49,530 we go. 2685 02:43:50,100 --> 02:43:52,860 Briefly, should I'm trying to see if there's anything here I 2686 02:43:52,860 --> 02:43:53,730 have a need. 2687 02:43:53,760 --> 02:43:58,830 The thing I have on on Egypt is that remember, we were tracking 2688 02:43:58,860 --> 02:44:01,740 el barra de and everyone was saying, Oh, well, Barrett is 2689 02:44:01,740 --> 02:44:05,580 going to be Prime Minister. And they announced him on, you know, 2690 02:44:05,610 --> 02:44:09,480 in the media, except they forgot to tell the Egyptian people 2691 02:44:10,890 --> 02:44:14,820 because he's like, he's not prime minister. He's doing his 2692 02:44:14,820 --> 02:44:20,100 best to pretend it's just hilarious. And he's like, and 2693 02:44:20,100 --> 02:44:23,970 he's doing interviews and but everywhere today, and this is 2694 02:44:23,970 --> 02:44:29,130 Sunday. Everyone's reporting well, maybe he's not exactly you 2695 02:44:29,130 --> 02:44:33,210 know, not everyone. Not everybody agrees. And this guy 2696 02:44:33,210 --> 02:44:35,940 was just, and he is from the International Crisis Group. This 2697 02:44:35,940 --> 02:44:40,260 is a Soros guy. Yes. This is a guy who, who essentially, you 2698 02:44:40,260 --> 02:44:44,880 know, is a complete shill. And this revolution this there was 2699 02:44:44,880 --> 02:44:47,730 another this was kind of interesting. I think this is 2700 02:44:47,730 --> 02:44:50,940 along the same lines propaganda. This is an Egyptian who showed 2701 02:44:50,940 --> 02:44:54,330 up on YouTube with a message to President Obama. He said Mr. 2702 02:44:54,330 --> 02:44:58,290 Obama. I'm talking to you today. 2703 02:44:59,100 --> 02:45:03,090 On behalf Have a lot of Egyptians who wants to deliver a 2704 02:45:03,090 --> 02:45:09,870 message not only for you, for all the American citizens leave 2705 02:45:10,020 --> 02:45:14,190 us alone. All the families in Egypt want to tell you this 2706 02:45:14,190 --> 02:45:21,660 message. leave Egypt alone. Please, Mr. Obama, and stop 2707 02:45:21,690 --> 02:45:27,840 supporting the terrorists. Stop supporting the Friends of Amara 2708 02:45:27,840 --> 02:45:33,570 Brockman. The terrorist who killed lots of Americans stop 2709 02:45:33,600 --> 02:45:39,630 supporting the allies of Ayman al Zawahiri of Pakistan of 2710 02:45:39,660 --> 02:45:44,250 Taliban. You are giving them the full support by calling what's 2711 02:45:44,250 --> 02:45:49,620 happening in Egypt. A military group is not a military group. 2712 02:45:50,220 --> 02:45:55,680 It's a revolution done by a civilized people, civilized 2713 02:45:55,710 --> 02:45:59,670 Egyptians who are counted officially more than 30 million. 2714 02:46:00,180 --> 02:46:03,000 Here's what I find interesting. But what can I say something for 2715 02:46:03,000 --> 02:46:08,370 at least? Putin? Da 2716 02:46:09,600 --> 02:46:13,740 da Yeah, the guy holds the whole structure. What that guy said 2717 02:46:13,740 --> 02:46:17,580 was totally Russia, Russia today. Yes, yes. Oh, crap. 2718 02:46:18,570 --> 02:46:22,590 And here's here's what I find interesting. Do you think that 2719 02:46:22,590 --> 02:46:27,090 the American armed forces could ever do this in America where? 2720 02:46:27,450 --> 02:46:29,670 Oh, well, we'll just remove the government because the people 2721 02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:30,180 want it. 2722 02:46:31,290 --> 02:46:36,480 I think they had their shot with Smedley Butler. Back in the 30s 2723 02:46:36,480 --> 02:46:40,770 with the Roosevelt the plot the plot that get Roosevelt out, and 2724 02:46:40,770 --> 02:46:43,410 it was a big plot all Democrats by the way, it was all the 2725 02:46:43,410 --> 02:46:46,290 Democrat industrialists, which is where most of the money is 2726 02:46:47,130 --> 02:46:50,910 decided that people can look this up. It's look up Smedley 2727 02:46:50,910 --> 02:46:54,570 Butler. But it was very it was very cold. It's called Business 2728 02:46:54,570 --> 02:46:57,690 Smedley Butler was named Charles at the time had decided given it 2729 02:46:57,690 --> 02:47:00,750 to go ahead. It would have happened. It's too late now. 2730 02:47:00,750 --> 02:47:02,340 It'll never happen. It's called 2731 02:47:02,340 --> 02:47:06,690 the Business plot is what John was referring to. And I think it 2732 02:47:06,690 --> 02:47:11,340 was General Smedley Butler, who said all war is a racket. I 2733 02:47:11,340 --> 02:47:12,390 think that was his quote 2734 02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:14,850 by he wrote a little book on that it's very small book, but 2735 02:47:14,850 --> 02:47:16,350 it's this war is a racket war 2736 02:47:16,350 --> 02:47:18,510 has arrived. And it did say war, all war. 2737 02:47:19,170 --> 02:47:25,440 War. I'm sure it's just war, I believe you. So anyway, so 2738 02:47:25,440 --> 02:47:28,140 Butler nixed the whole thing. And that was the end of it, it 2739 02:47:28,140 --> 02:47:31,860 would have happened, and then we'd be screwed in that cycle. I 2740 02:47:31,860 --> 02:47:35,190 think that this particular situation in Egypt is has to 2741 02:47:35,460 --> 02:47:39,960 wake up the military in Turkey, because the church is doing this 2742 02:47:39,960 --> 02:47:42,570 constantly. But of course there's Ertegun outflank them. 2743 02:47:42,570 --> 02:47:45,510 And but according to today's New York Times, let me grab the 2744 02:47:45,510 --> 02:47:46,620 front page. Okay. 2745 02:47:47,670 --> 02:47:48,330 Oh, can I? 2746 02:47:50,700 --> 02:47:52,770 Yeah, you might as well might as well hold on a second. 2747 02:47:53,280 --> 02:47:56,700 Whereas we haven't done this in a while actually. 2748 02:48:05,760 --> 02:48:08,580 Two more two headlines on the front page above the fold that 2749 02:48:08,580 --> 02:48:11,910 are worth looking at. They have the plane on fire, of course, 2750 02:48:12,150 --> 02:48:14,640 one of them but which is not what I'm talking about. But you 2751 02:48:14,640 --> 02:48:19,680 should at least know this in secret. The court vastly 2752 02:48:19,680 --> 02:48:21,810 broadens the power of NSA. 2753 02:48:22,590 --> 02:48:25,080 Oh, this is what I was talking about this. This is the whole 2754 02:48:25,080 --> 02:48:26,400 New York Times article. 2755 02:48:26,610 --> 02:48:29,430 Yeah, it's right down the front page. And the front page just 2756 02:48:29,430 --> 02:48:34,530 below the fire burning plane Morsi spurned deals, seeking a 2757 02:48:34,530 --> 02:48:39,330 seeing the military as tamed, because he had figured that he 2758 02:48:39,330 --> 02:48:42,990 had decapitated the military knowing that they could pull a 2759 02:48:42,990 --> 02:48:47,040 stunt like this and got relaxed. I think this is going on in 2760 02:48:47,040 --> 02:48:51,000 Turkey right now. would make sense. And if they did, they 2761 02:48:51,000 --> 02:48:53,880 don't call them these the Turks are irked. Or this is a 2762 02:48:53,880 --> 02:48:57,480 situation where the middle class what's left of them. And many of 2763 02:48:57,480 --> 02:49:01,350 the the elites are irked by the government and the way they're 2764 02:49:01,350 --> 02:49:03,900 handling things and they and they know how that can be done. 2765 02:49:04,170 --> 02:49:08,310 The easy way to do this is to just take over the place of the 2766 02:49:08,310 --> 02:49:13,200 military and start over. And I think it can happen in this 2767 02:49:13,200 --> 02:49:16,110 country in the United States. I don't see this happening ever 2768 02:49:16,110 --> 02:49:19,470 How do you take any would be ridiculous we got we have a 2769 02:49:19,470 --> 02:49:22,590 pretty strict strict system. If it was a parliamentary system 2770 02:49:22,590 --> 02:49:24,930 where somebody could stay in office forever be a problem, 2771 02:49:24,930 --> 02:49:29,730 right? Because it was a problem with Roosevelt staying in for 2772 02:49:29,730 --> 02:49:30,600 four terms. 2773 02:49:31,110 --> 02:49:35,820 You feel you still think that this is I mean, I do this is 2774 02:49:35,820 --> 02:49:42,900 still a Russian slash Chinese plot. What's happening in Egypt 2775 02:49:42,900 --> 02:49:43,200 Scott, 2776 02:49:43,740 --> 02:49:45,990 the Chinese I think are just supporters. I don't think 2777 02:49:45,990 --> 02:49:49,920 they're involved Soros from the intelligence side. I think is a 2778 02:49:49,920 --> 02:49:53,340 totally a Russian do though. These Russians are sick and 2779 02:49:53,340 --> 02:49:56,730 tired. And I think they've been given the go ahead by our 2780 02:49:56,790 --> 02:50:01,830 intelligence people. Go ahead, do is, in particular to, you 2781 02:50:01,830 --> 02:50:05,100 know, do to do because he has getting blamed for a lot of 2782 02:50:05,100 --> 02:50:07,350 stuff. Yes, like whatever. 2783 02:50:08,550 --> 02:50:10,380 here's the here's the proof. 2784 02:50:10,619 --> 02:50:13,889 Chinese and Russia naval forces will be putting on a show of 2785 02:50:13,889 --> 02:50:17,279 strength over the next week. They're holding joint exercises 2786 02:50:17,309 --> 02:50:17,819 in this 2787 02:50:17,820 --> 02:50:21,630 new meme, the show of strength, show of force show of whatever 2788 02:50:21,630 --> 02:50:25,800 you have Japan. China state run Xinhua News Agency reports. The 2789 02:50:25,800 --> 02:50:29,280 eight day drill will start Friday off Vladivostok in 2790 02:50:29,280 --> 02:50:33,690 Russia's Far East, the navies will use 18 ships, including 2791 02:50:33,690 --> 02:50:37,230 China's latest destroyer. They'll also have submarines and 2792 02:50:37,230 --> 02:50:41,700 aircraft on hand for the live fire drills. Shin hardcoded, a 2793 02:50:41,700 --> 02:50:44,880 top general with the Chinese People's Liberation Army of 2794 02:50:44,880 --> 02:50:48,420 saying the exercises are designed to boost cooperation 2795 02:50:48,420 --> 02:50:52,680 and capability. He said the two nations can play a positive role 2796 02:50:52,710 --> 02:50:57,450 in regional security and stability. Patrolling Japan 2797 02:50:57,990 --> 02:51:02,160 where we've got this is the whole thing is, do we not? Why? 2798 02:51:02,550 --> 02:51:07,860 Let me ask you this. Why is this not being reported as a huge 2799 02:51:07,860 --> 02:51:11,880 chilling cold war? Why is this not being played up? It seems 2800 02:51:11,880 --> 02:51:16,620 like a beautiful script for for the for the news media. It's 2801 02:51:16,650 --> 02:51:20,130 this fun, it's great. But you know, it's got all the elements 2802 02:51:20,130 --> 02:51:24,420 you want in it. In fact, I don't really want them to do it. 2803 02:51:24,420 --> 02:51:27,900 Because now we get to do we get to do it. We get to analyze the 2804 02:51:27,900 --> 02:51:33,360 phony plane landings and we've got the everyone yelling in 2805 02:51:33,360 --> 02:51:36,600 South America. I mean, I love it. I love that with that you're 2806 02:51:36,600 --> 02:51:39,420 leaving it all to us. But why are you leaving all that meat on 2807 02:51:39,420 --> 02:51:40,110 the table? 2808 02:51:40,350 --> 02:51:42,210 I don't know why they're leaving that meat on the table. And it 2809 02:51:42,210 --> 02:51:45,270 is meat. And in fact, this whole Putin thing and my favorite 2810 02:51:45,270 --> 02:51:48,630 thing was when he was Did you see he did you see Putin to his 2811 02:51:48,630 --> 02:51:51,870 press conference about Snowden? Yeah, what are you saying? Eat 2812 02:51:51,870 --> 02:51:55,380 for one thing. He's got a smirk. And they kept showing pictures 2813 02:51:55,380 --> 02:51:58,710 of the audience of these of these recruitment Putin bots, 2814 02:51:58,890 --> 02:52:02,340 kind of doing everything they can to keep from cracking 2815 02:52:02,400 --> 02:52:03,930 up pretty well. That's, that's 2816 02:52:05,220 --> 02:52:08,850 Putin says, Yeah, we will we take Snowden in but we'd require 2817 02:52:08,850 --> 02:52:12,210 really, we'd be real strict about making sure he doesn't do 2818 02:52:12,210 --> 02:52:16,650 any more of these revelations. Wink wink, nudge nudge. You 2819 02:52:16,650 --> 02:52:20,250 know, we don't like that because our great friends the United 2820 02:52:20,250 --> 02:52:24,090 States of America is is an insult to them. We would have to 2821 02:52:24,090 --> 02:52:25,470 put a stop to that. 2822 02:52:25,530 --> 02:52:27,000 We couldn't have any of that. 2823 02:52:28,350 --> 02:52:32,820 phony and he's laughing his eyes are twinkling. He's just having 2824 02:52:32,820 --> 02:52:36,000 a ball doing this stuff. Because he's, you know, former KGB so he 2825 02:52:36,000 --> 02:52:39,720 knows all these tricks. Oh, and I guess you know, it still runs 2826 02:52:39,720 --> 02:52:42,060 the security mechanism. I'm sure it's 2827 02:52:42,060 --> 02:52:51,600 more like. Hey, Glen, Glen, is Vlad. Pay pay? Yeah, right. You 2828 02:52:51,600 --> 02:52:53,730 got any more than PowerPoint stuff? And this shit is 2829 02:52:53,730 --> 02:52:58,710 hilarious. Put some more out there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Good. 2830 02:52:58,950 --> 02:53:02,460 Excellent. Oh, by the way, I'm gonna call Leni Riefenstahl. You 2831 02:53:02,460 --> 02:53:08,340 see that she's now publishing. What Leni Riefenstahl. That's 2832 02:53:08,340 --> 02:53:15,090 not her name. Laura Poitras. elsley. The filmmaker? Yeah, 2833 02:53:15,090 --> 02:53:19,740 he's now she's now reporting in Der Spiegel. She's so she's the 2834 02:53:19,740 --> 02:53:22,860 one that got the half a million dollar payoff. And she's put in 2835 02:53:22,860 --> 02:53:28,590 this report that she has seen internal documents, which is not 2836 02:53:28,590 --> 02:53:34,050 published. About all the spying done on Germany. These people 2837 02:53:34,050 --> 02:53:38,220 are agents. And Glenn Greenwald. You want to have a laugh? Are 2838 02:53:38,220 --> 02:53:39,630 you following his Twitter? 2839 02:53:40,800 --> 02:53:42,090 No, not really. Oh 2840 02:53:42,090 --> 02:53:42,960 my God, John. 2841 02:53:43,320 --> 02:53:45,120 I am following you. But 2842 02:53:45,120 --> 02:53:48,450 I haven't done anything yet. You just have to go to his Twitter 2843 02:53:48,450 --> 02:53:53,700 and just watch it update. If he's he's like, Edward really 2844 02:53:53,700 --> 02:53:56,730 wrote that thing in in WikiLeaks. He just has a problem 2845 02:53:56,730 --> 02:54:03,660 with nouns. From when I kid you not. This is the stuff he's 2846 02:54:03,660 --> 02:54:08,700 writing. He's defending the Bogut of Snowden writing on 2847 02:54:08,700 --> 02:54:12,570 WikiLeaks. Glenn Greenwald is here reporter or what is he? 2848 02:54:13,830 --> 02:54:15,330 What is Glenn Greenwald? 2849 02:54:16,830 --> 02:54:19,290 Well, I don't know what Glenn Glenn Greenwald is, but he's 2850 02:54:19,290 --> 02:54:21,720 doing everything he can to stay in the public eye to do a book 2851 02:54:21,720 --> 02:54:24,360 deal. That's the way I see it. But this is what's so stupid. 2852 02:54:24,360 --> 02:54:28,860 Where's the book? Get it out. Oh, that's it. That is kind of 2853 02:54:28,860 --> 02:54:31,980 surprising that somebody hasn't called him to do a book. 2854 02:54:32,340 --> 02:54:35,700 Now maybe the payoff was so huge just to do all this crap. I 2855 02:54:35,700 --> 02:54:39,060 don't know. I've got so much stuff we're going to do have to 2856 02:54:39,060 --> 02:54:44,190 do to pass on for Thursday. Let me see. I've got I've been 2857 02:54:44,190 --> 02:54:47,880 sitting on this Haiti report from the General Accounting and 2858 02:54:47,880 --> 02:54:51,060 Oversight Office, which is so damning, and then not a peep in 2859 02:54:51,060 --> 02:54:55,020 the news. So I can just hold on to that. I think I've had it for 2860 02:54:55,080 --> 02:54:59,790 almost three weeks now. It'll hold but you can imagine it's 2861 02:54:59,790 --> 02:55:00,570 not Good. 2862 02:55:02,580 --> 02:55:05,790 I got that's it. A lot of the stuff we do on the show is not 2863 02:55:05,790 --> 02:55:09,150 good, right, except for the show itself. 2864 02:55:09,870 --> 02:55:14,190 And there you go. I did get a lot of email about this one 2865 02:55:14,190 --> 02:55:19,680 particular clip, the Los Angeles show of force, about the, which 2866 02:55:19,680 --> 02:55:23,400 I wish I just wanted to replay this 15 second clip about the 2867 02:55:23,400 --> 02:55:29,880 holidays being tied to terror events, which of course is less 2868 02:55:29,880 --> 02:55:33,450 and less going to be this fact it's not going to be the fourth 2869 02:55:33,450 --> 02:55:37,260 of July. But a lot of people pointed out several things in 2870 02:55:37,260 --> 02:55:39,900 this in this particular piece of the clip as we're talking to 2871 02:55:39,900 --> 02:55:43,380 some muckety muck there in Los Angeles, who was terrorizing 2872 02:55:43,380 --> 02:55:48,960 citizens with police officers in complete fatigues and camouflage 2873 02:55:48,960 --> 02:55:52,320 combat gear, with automatic cassette and full automatic 2874 02:55:52,320 --> 02:55:55,350 rifles and night vision goggles and tanks. Yesterday, 2875 02:55:55,350 --> 02:55:58,230 federal authorities released a bulletin saying the country is 2876 02:55:58,230 --> 02:55:59,160 on heightened alert. 2877 02:55:59,460 --> 02:56:01,770 Anytime you have a holiday, it's something that you want to look 2878 02:56:01,770 --> 02:56:06,810 at you, you the Boston bombing took place on Patriots Day, the 2879 02:56:06,840 --> 02:56:12,360 Time Square incident took place on May Day, Benghazi on 911. 2880 02:56:13,020 --> 02:56:13,950 Okay, so 2881 02:56:13,980 --> 02:56:17,550 here's here's the things that people emailed me and we are 2882 02:56:17,550 --> 02:56:23,190 even learning how to listen better. May Day is really quite 2883 02:56:23,190 --> 02:56:28,380 a cultish celebrate celebration. If you look into the to the 2884 02:56:28,410 --> 02:56:34,200 cultish parts of May Day. That is a very weird thing to say 2885 02:56:34,200 --> 02:56:37,680 that, Oh, you know, this took place on this celebration of 2886 02:56:37,680 --> 02:56:41,610 occultism. Yes, may days, you know, as a day of labor 2887 02:56:41,610 --> 02:56:44,220 celebration, but if you're looking to the maypole, and all 2888 02:56:44,220 --> 02:56:47,790 this stuff, there's a lot going on. But the funniest thing is 2889 02:56:47,790 --> 02:56:52,560 this guy calls 911 a holiday. That's pretty hilarious. 2890 02:56:53,670 --> 02:56:58,380 Well, it's one of these days. Right? It will be a holiday, 2891 02:56:58,410 --> 02:57:03,000 like holy crap. How could we have missed that one? Yeah, is? 2892 02:57:03,540 --> 02:57:05,940 Well, that's why it is the best podcast in the universe. 2893 02:57:05,970 --> 02:57:09,690 Although we shall never receive an award for such. It's because 2894 02:57:09,690 --> 02:57:12,210 we have the best producers in the universe who support the 2895 02:57:12,210 --> 02:57:16,950 program financially and with content. And that includes my 2896 02:57:16,950 --> 02:57:19,500 friends here in Austin who put up with me at their dinners. 2897 02:57:22,680 --> 02:57:26,460 But generally, I usually have a taster. A taster. Yes, somebody 2898 02:57:26,460 --> 02:57:27,330 who tastes your food. 2899 02:57:31,470 --> 02:57:36,330 Alrighty, this is not a bad plan. Thank you for suggesting 2900 02:57:37,650 --> 02:57:40,170 everybody a little bit longer normal. But what can I tell you? 2901 02:57:40,170 --> 02:57:42,660 There's just so much going on. We'll be back with you on 2902 02:57:42,660 --> 02:57:45,390 Thursday. Thank you very much for your support of the program. 2903 02:57:45,420 --> 02:57:52,950 Remember, divorce iq.org/and, a peel box 339 l cerritos 94530, 2904 02:57:52,950 --> 02:57:56,520 California USA for your checks and other goodies. And coming to 2905 02:57:56,520 --> 02:57:59,850 you from the Capitol, the drone Star state here in Texas at his 2906 02:57:59,850 --> 02:58:02,700 Austin Travis Hide, hide out. I'm Adam curry in the morning. 2907 02:58:03,780 --> 02:58:07,260 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm here with the 2908 02:58:07,260 --> 02:58:11,100 crickets crickets John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on 2909 02:58:11,100 --> 02:58:11,520 Thursday 2910 02:58:11,520 --> 02:58:14,490 with another thrilling episode of the Best podcast in the 2911 02:58:14,490 --> 02:58:17,400 universe right here on no agenda 2912 02:58:27,240 --> 02:58:30,630 now you know your neighborhood keep an eye on it. A stranger 2913 02:58:30,630 --> 02:58:33,360 taking a shortcut through the backyard next door might have 2914 02:58:33,360 --> 02:58:36,510 broken into your neighbor's home report him report a strange car 2915 02:58:36,510 --> 02:58:39,330 parked illegally might be loaded with stolen goods waiting to 2916 02:58:39,330 --> 02:58:43,020 make a getaway report it report. Loud fight next door might be 2917 02:58:43,020 --> 02:58:45,900 the start of a violent crime report a report you see a 2918 02:58:45,900 --> 02:58:49,020 prowler at night don't frighten him away by turning on a light 2919 02:58:49,080 --> 02:58:52,080 reporting reporting. Remember, by helping us apprehend a 2920 02:58:52,080 --> 02:58:55,110 criminal. You will make sure that you're not his next victim. 2921 02:58:55,830 --> 02:59:00,540 I guess you can sum it up in two words. Watch that. Get involved. 2922 02:59:01,800 --> 02:59:03,540 If you see something. 2923 02:59:09,750 --> 02:59:14,490 Bullshit, do vorak.org/n A