1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,010 I don't know about your flag, but I wouldn't mind seeing your 2 00:00:02,010 --> 00:00:03,660 pole. Adam curry, 3 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,680 John C. Dvorak and Sunday October 14 2012. Time if you're 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,350 getting donation media assassination, episode four, 5 00:00:10,350 --> 00:00:15,750 five, this is no agenda. And watching the watchers in fact 6 00:00:15,750 --> 00:00:18,930 checking the fact checkers from the capital of the drone Star 7 00:00:18,930 --> 00:00:21,720 State Austin Hay House in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,200 curry, 9 00:00:22,620 --> 00:00:26,580 from Northern Silicon Valley where the fog is rolled in. It's 10 00:00:26,580 --> 00:00:30,840 gloomy. I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg Levin Buzzkill. 11 00:00:32,580 --> 00:00:33,720 You sound great. 12 00:00:34,770 --> 00:00:37,290 Well, for as long as it lasts, just don't haven't watched any 13 00:00:37,290 --> 00:00:38,520 videos. Hey, 14 00:00:38,970 --> 00:00:40,350 you gotta be using Chrome. 15 00:00:42,060 --> 00:00:43,950 Did you see the Michael Dunn piece? 16 00:00:44,010 --> 00:00:49,470 Who was Michael Dunn Alright, if you were if you if you're not 17 00:00:49,470 --> 00:00:52,230 listening live to the show. You have no idea why we think this 18 00:00:52,230 --> 00:00:56,430 is so hilarious. But no, I did not watch them. Michael, who was 19 00:00:56,430 --> 00:00:57,090 Michael Dunn. 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,790 Not go to your Twitter feed. You get your Twitter open? Because 21 00:00:59,790 --> 00:01:03,600 you tweeted. Yeah. And it should be an add random curry. Michael 22 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,470 Dunn. I made this. I know you'll both appreciate it. Yeah, and I 23 00:01:07,470 --> 00:01:11,910 saw that. Pretty. His his image? Yeah, it's pretty good. 24 00:01:11,940 --> 00:01:14,850 It's great. Yeah. But did he put it on the Art Generator? 25 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:18,930 Well, I don't think it actually would fit as a logo. Maybe? 26 00:01:19,679 --> 00:01:22,229 You never know if people sometimes art no agenda art 27 00:01:22,229 --> 00:01:23,429 generator.com. 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,330 should probably take a look at that. No, no, it's not. It's 29 00:01:27,330 --> 00:01:28,920 probably not listening anyway. So. 30 00:01:30,270 --> 00:01:33,480 Yeah, true. So we're on the on the mumble today to see how that 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,190 works. See if we get any better. Better vibe than than Skype. So 32 00:01:38,190 --> 00:01:41,430 this is a test. So far. So good. We are exactly two minutes into 33 00:01:41,430 --> 00:01:42,570 the show. That's great. 34 00:01:43,830 --> 00:01:51,570 Yeah, in 10 minutes late. So any news this week? I think there's 35 00:01:51,570 --> 00:01:53,910 a few distractions that when we get to know there's any real 36 00:01:53,910 --> 00:01:54,210 news, 37 00:01:54,270 --> 00:01:56,820 I have a question for you right off the bat. This something is 38 00:01:56,820 --> 00:02:01,860 really been bugging me. And this is this. This is a call back 39 00:02:01,860 --> 00:02:06,510 really to the to the presidential the first 40 00:02:06,510 --> 00:02:08,880 presidential debate. Of course, we had the vice presidential 41 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,300 debate on Thursday evening. We might talk about that a little 42 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:18,030 bit. But I'm seeing one thing. And again, I know a lot of 43 00:02:18,030 --> 00:02:22,620 really smart people who are Republicans I know a lot of 44 00:02:22,620 --> 00:02:25,620 smart people who are who are Democrats that are that are very 45 00:02:25,620 --> 00:02:28,830 diehard and the Democrat the people I know who are Democrats, 46 00:02:29,490 --> 00:02:33,300 there's there's something that's really been bugging me they are 47 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:38,970 using this 15 second clip from the presidential debates and 48 00:02:38,970 --> 00:02:42,120 I'll tell you what, what people are saying about this now I want 49 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,050 to get your take on it 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,280 not the case. Look, I got five boys. I'm used to people saying 51 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,950 something that's not always true, but just keep on repeating 52 00:02:49,950 --> 00:02:52,890 it and ultimately hoping I'll believe it but that that is not 53 00:02:52,890 --> 00:02:56,910 the case. All right. I will not reduce the taxes paid by 54 00:02:56,940 --> 00:03:05,010 so that clip people are saying he called the president boy to 55 00:03:05,010 --> 00:03:15,180 his face okay, so saying that this would Romney said here was 56 00:03:15,180 --> 00:03:18,510 racial was a racial attack on the President was a racial 57 00:03:18,510 --> 00:03:21,360 attack. Why? Cuz he's like, because it's worse the 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,140 connection between that and racism, because of the words. 59 00:03:25,650 --> 00:03:27,630 He's the equivalent of five young white boy, 60 00:03:27,660 --> 00:03:32,550 I'm telling you, this is this is a total meme. And some really, 61 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:33,270 really soon this 62 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:34,440 meme at all? Are 63 00:03:34,710 --> 00:03:39,300 you kidding me? No. I mean, you know, you know, you know what 64 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:39,840 really made 65 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,280 me get into Texas, but I have 66 00:03:41,460 --> 00:03:46,170 no, not at all. Not at all. This is everywhere. In fact, I'll 67 00:03:46,170 --> 00:03:49,350 tell you what, this is the one that pissed me off this morning. 68 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,740 I will read this to you. And then you tell me who wrote this 69 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,100 blog post he called the president boy. 70 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:05,400 From the boy thing, yes. I have five boys. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my 71 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,170 God, listen to this hitting. So I'm 72 00:04:07,170 --> 00:04:09,810 gonna read this. And I've seen I've been seeing this ever since 73 00:04:09,810 --> 00:04:12,690 the debate and then showed up this morning on someone's blog 74 00:04:12,690 --> 00:04:15,090 and like, okay, now I have to say something because this 75 00:04:15,090 --> 00:04:18,720 person is not dumb. All right. Here's the blog post. He called 76 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,750 the president boy. just tuned in to a little of the Sunday 77 00:04:21,750 --> 00:04:24,300 Morning News Discussion on various networks. The big issue 78 00:04:24,300 --> 00:04:26,880 seems to be whether or not VP Biden was disrespectful of 79 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,700 Congressman Ryan in the Wednesday debate. Yes, he was. 80 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:32,070 But I haven't forgotten what Mitt Romney said to President 81 00:04:32,070 --> 00:04:35,520 Obama. He said the president is like a boy who doesn't tell the 82 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,910 truth. Quote, look, I've got five boys. I'm used to people 83 00:04:38,910 --> 00:04:41,490 saying that's not always true, but just keep on repeating until 84 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,270 ultimately hoping I'll believe it. He called the president boy 85 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,730 to his face with 70 million witnesses. Watch the video a few 86 00:04:50,730 --> 00:04:53,670 times. I think this is far more outrageous than anything you 87 00:04:53,670 --> 00:04:58,800 said at the 47% Dinner in May. So this person is literally 88 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,260 saying that this this 15 second clip not 89 00:05:01,260 --> 00:05:05,250 the case. Like I got five boys. I'm used to people saying 90 00:05:05,250 --> 00:05:08,040 something that's not always true but just keep on repeating it 91 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,860 and ultimately hoping I'll believe it but that that is not 92 00:05:10,860 --> 00:05:11,730 the case. All right, 93 00:05:11,970 --> 00:05:16,740 the dad is a racial slur. You can Google this John you can 94 00:05:16,740 --> 00:05:19,320 Google and see how many people think that this is a racial slur 95 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,670 that it was a smart, a really smart, subtle nose and 96 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:27,210 tricky tricky slur. Yeah, who was he gay snuck in the word, 97 00:05:27,330 --> 00:05:30,330 boys. Was it a boy it was boys. 98 00:05:30,359 --> 00:05:32,189 So who do you think wrote that blog post? 99 00:05:33,420 --> 00:05:38,130 Well, it would have to be some aihole Dave Winer. Oh you're 100 00:05:38,130 --> 00:05:43,740 kidding he's got he's not dumb He's a very smart guy. He's a 101 00:05:43,740 --> 00:05:45,180 huge Obama bato 102 00:05:45,510 --> 00:05:50,010 no kidding but the people who say this have been programmed 103 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:55,710 programmed this is this is this is actual mind control at work. 104 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,990 Anyway, okay, so I'm not crazy right? Because I you know, I 105 00:06:00,990 --> 00:06:03,900 don't I don't like either of these douchebags. But I'm not 106 00:06:03,900 --> 00:06:07,590 crazy when I hear that I'm not I'm not thinking. You said boys. 107 00:06:07,620 --> 00:06:09,480 He called him a boy to his face. 108 00:06:10,169 --> 00:06:13,259 Forget your reference to douchebags is Romney and Obama 109 00:06:13,259 --> 00:06:14,039 not whiner? 110 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:15,330 No, no, exactly wrong. Get 111 00:06:15,330 --> 00:06:19,770 out creative. Douchebag 112 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:26,370 didn't add up. Thank you. But this is this is some form of 113 00:06:26,370 --> 00:06:29,670 mind control. And if you Google this, you'll see that lots of 114 00:06:29,670 --> 00:06:33,390 people tune into this and the only thing I can say is if you 115 00:06:33,390 --> 00:06:37,560 think this when you hear that sentence, you gotta be a racist 116 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,250 yourself. 117 00:06:38,580 --> 00:06:40,140 Oh, no, you're a huge racist. 118 00:06:40,170 --> 00:06:43,230 There's no no two ways about it. Then you're thinking about the 119 00:06:43,230 --> 00:06:43,650 damage. The 120 00:06:43,650 --> 00:06:46,830 Democrats are very racist. I mean, let's face it. If did you 121 00:06:46,830 --> 00:06:49,980 go take a look at Palo Alto there's they got the whole area 122 00:06:50,220 --> 00:06:52,950 that oh, we're all the blacks live there across the freeway in 123 00:06:52,980 --> 00:06:55,470 East Palo Alto live in by themselves and they don't like 124 00:06:55,470 --> 00:06:58,800 him getting over crossed. Don't go across the freeways. Tracks 125 00:06:58,830 --> 00:07:03,600 stay there to track dogs across lives across the tracks. 126 00:07:03,660 --> 00:07:07,080 And the funny thing is, I think a lot of Europeans don't even 127 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,700 know that calling someone boy is racial. This is 128 00:07:12,150 --> 00:07:15,720 really in effect the whole boy, I think most people don't even I 129 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,510 think most modern Americans don't know the reference that 130 00:07:18,510 --> 00:07:20,520 references way old. Yeah. 131 00:07:20,580 --> 00:07:22,530 Where's it from? From the 132 00:07:22,530 --> 00:07:26,370 40s or the 50s? Or something? I have no idea. It's way oh, let 133 00:07:26,370 --> 00:07:30,060 me nobody. You know, I think few people it's like the references 134 00:07:30,060 --> 00:07:34,290 to watermelon and fried chicken. That that Richard Pryor used to 135 00:07:34,290 --> 00:07:38,520 always like to make because it was like to continue the that's 136 00:07:38,550 --> 00:07:39,840 more or less gone away. 137 00:07:39,870 --> 00:07:45,450 Yeah. So I know you didn't Google it. But I'm seeing 100 138 00:07:45,450 --> 00:07:53,820 and 18 million results for Romney calling Obama boy. Yeah, 139 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,360 Obama is like, Yeah, I'm telling you, I'm telling. And then an 140 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,700 Romney, of course, compared him to a petulant child. So that's 141 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:06,000 also a boy reference. I'm telling you did Romney call 142 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Obama a boy? Romney calls Obama Boy, oh, my goodness, people get 143 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,910 a frickin grip. Anyway, so that's, that's the state of mind 144 00:08:17,910 --> 00:08:21,930 controlled America, ladies and gentlemen. And good one, and I 145 00:08:21,930 --> 00:08:23,010 was thinking of posting 146 00:08:23,190 --> 00:08:24,690 a clip of the day if there was a clip. 147 00:08:25,020 --> 00:08:27,510 Well, have you heard the clip? It's just it's it's not a big 148 00:08:27,510 --> 00:08:32,460 deal. The thing is, you know, I saw this on wine whiners blog 149 00:08:32,460 --> 00:08:35,760 this morning, and I started writing a blog post or a 150 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,660 comment, like, No, this is a mistake. This is a mistake. i 151 00:08:39,660 --> 00:08:42,930 This is not my form. I should not be writing a response to 152 00:08:42,930 --> 00:08:46,890 this. I've got to ask John if I'm crazy first. So I'm not 153 00:08:46,980 --> 00:08:47,700 obviously 154 00:08:50,010 --> 00:08:52,560 Oh, that's kind of criminal I think to be honest about it. 155 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:56,040 That kind of analysis. That Weiner would have made an error 156 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,920 or anybody else anybody anybody would make the assumption that 157 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,710 somebody i Hey, yeah, but do you have any kids? Yeah, I got two 158 00:09:01,710 --> 00:09:08,430 boys. Race races calling Obama boy. I don't have a boy named 159 00:09:08,430 --> 00:09:11,940 Obama. It's just 160 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:16,650 isn't making me crazy is making me crazy when I hear this. 161 00:09:18,750 --> 00:09:22,950 So first of all, let me just say John, John, in the morning to 162 00:09:22,950 --> 00:09:23,700 you my friend 163 00:09:24,690 --> 00:09:26,850 in the morning, do you Adam curry in the morning all ships 164 00:09:26,850 --> 00:09:29,640 at sea boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air and 165 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,520 to all our knights out there who have continued to support the 166 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,650 show in the best way possible. 167 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:40,230 Yes, indeed. And to Martin JJ who brought us our art on the 168 00:09:40,230 --> 00:09:41,250 previous that was wrong 169 00:09:41,250 --> 00:09:44,550 with our other artists had Martin JJ is kicking everybody's 170 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:45,090 behind. 171 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,230 I mean, it's not like 172 00:09:46,230 --> 00:09:49,680 you spent a lot of time by the way, after every single show. 173 00:09:50,190 --> 00:09:54,480 Going over the art we do and we debated and then in fact, and I 174 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,930 don't want to make it sound as though we're trying to you know 175 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,190 even things out a little bit but I don't care. But Adam is likes 176 00:10:02,190 --> 00:10:06,960 to see other artists get their names up there. But after long 177 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,350 discussions, Dziedzic wins again and again. 178 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,080 And it's just the combination. You know, it's just the 179 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,890 combination. In fact, it's hard to explain. It's hard to 180 00:10:16,890 --> 00:10:19,800 explain. But if anything, we have the debate and like, man, 181 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,470 we again, I mean, we gotta give someone else a shot, but it's 182 00:10:22,470 --> 00:10:26,100 just the best stuff. So keep going at it people and always 183 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:27,540 check out all of the art we have 184 00:10:29,070 --> 00:10:32,370 an art clip from for the newsletter true usually was the 185 00:10:32,370 --> 00:10:33,810 ones that came in second. 186 00:10:34,170 --> 00:10:36,210 And I do want to say in the morning to all of the human 187 00:10:36,210 --> 00:10:39,480 resources in the chat room, no agenda stream.com, no agenda 188 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:44,220 chat.net, who were always there to keep us on the straight and 189 00:10:44,220 --> 00:10:47,700 narrow and to piss me off from time to time, which is sometimes 190 00:10:48,810 --> 00:10:54,030 challenging. So of course, I did watch the the vice presidential 191 00:10:54,030 --> 00:10:58,500 debate. And I have a few comments. I don't know, 192 00:10:58,710 --> 00:11:02,640 to take, I had to take a couple of cups of hard coffee to keep 193 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,330 stay awake. And then Biden, of course, now the big deal is 194 00:11:06,330 --> 00:11:08,910 whether but you know, there's two sides. This is amazing how 195 00:11:09,060 --> 00:11:12,480 this is why really seriously, voting third party is the way to 196 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,150 go. Yeah, because that way, you don't have to deal with this 197 00:11:15,150 --> 00:11:18,750 crap. I ran into somebody that day said Yeah, well, you voted 198 00:11:18,750 --> 00:11:22,290 for I voted for Gary Johnson. Oh, you're gonna waste your 199 00:11:22,290 --> 00:11:22,860 vote. 200 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,990 Oh, really? The old waste your vote? 201 00:11:25,199 --> 00:11:27,749 Waste your vote? Oh, you're wasting everything. Oh, really? 202 00:11:27,749 --> 00:11:30,479 I'm gonna waste my vote. If I vote for Obama, I'm gonna waste 203 00:11:30,479 --> 00:11:33,959 my vote. If I vote for Romney then then who wasn't? any 204 00:11:33,959 --> 00:11:36,329 different? I don't care about those two guys. I shouldn't vote 205 00:11:36,329 --> 00:11:36,869 for either one. 206 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:41,100 Call this person out. Who was this? I'm not gonna do you know. 207 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:46,830 So we've discussed multiple times, that the other candidates 208 00:11:46,890 --> 00:11:52,530 are not invited into the debate. And this, of course, debate the 209 00:11:52,530 --> 00:11:55,380 corrupt debates that only have two parties of the while there's 210 00:11:55,380 --> 00:11:59,550 at least 15 that we've discussed, however, John King, 211 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:05,760 Don King, Don Lemon to the rescue, John, CNN steps up to 212 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:06,720 the plate for us. 213 00:12:06,959 --> 00:12:10,109 So you've seen Obama versus Romney and Biden versus Ryan 214 00:12:10,109 --> 00:12:12,689 tonight, though, a presidential debate you won't see anywhere 215 00:12:12,689 --> 00:12:15,359 else. two presidential candidates not afraid to speak 216 00:12:15,359 --> 00:12:18,209 their minds about the issues that matter most to now 217 00:12:18,210 --> 00:12:21,510 I'm getting excited and like, oh my god, they're going to do a 218 00:12:21,510 --> 00:12:25,500 presidential debate between two other candidates. This is huge 219 00:12:25,500 --> 00:12:25,800 Sherry 220 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,280 Johnson, Libertarian Party nominee and Jill Stein, 221 00:12:29,310 --> 00:12:31,710 I'm like, we're gonna have the stage, we're gonna have the 222 00:12:31,710 --> 00:12:34,710 audience. We're gonna have Don Lemon as moderator and I'm 223 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:37,290 getting moist, just thinking about it Green Party nominee. 224 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:40,320 They weren't allowed in the official debates. So we brought 225 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,440 them here so they could add their voices to the national 226 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,130 discussion. 227 00:12:44,190 --> 00:12:47,280 Now, John, can you can you understand my excitement at this 228 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,190 point? And I just, I'm, like, Oh, my God, barely were 229 00:12:50,190 --> 00:12:53,580 suckered go, we're gonna cover a lot of topics from the economy 230 00:12:53,580 --> 00:12:58,530 to social issues. But as third even fourth party candidates, I 231 00:12:58,530 --> 00:13:01,560 decided to start with the obvious question, though. Why 232 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:02,160 are you running? 233 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,930 I'm running as a mother and now they edit to a Skype 234 00:13:06,930 --> 00:13:13,650 conversation. She's, she's on Skype. And Gary Johnson, doctor, 235 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:18,930 he's like, in some other room, they have a try screen out. This 236 00:13:18,930 --> 00:13:22,590 is not a debate. And I've been inactive and just listened to 237 00:13:22,590 --> 00:13:26,910 Jill Stein for a moment really, people listened because she's no 238 00:13:26,910 --> 00:13:32,040 good political medicine, because listen, we got to fix this one, 239 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,460 in order to fix everything else that ails us. But what propelled 240 00:13:35,460 --> 00:13:38,880 me into this race was when the President put Medicare and 241 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,210 Social Security on the chopping block as the solution to the 242 00:13:42,210 --> 00:13:46,530 debt ceiling crisis a year ago. So I'm basically in this to 243 00:13:46,530 --> 00:13:50,280 ensure that everyday people have a voice in this election and a 244 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,400 choice at the polls. That's not bought and paid for by Wall 245 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:58,380 Street. This is like raw, You're so boring, Jill Stein, you have 246 00:13:58,380 --> 00:14:01,590 no platform you all you're doing is, well, I don't like what 247 00:14:01,590 --> 00:14:04,380 they're doing. You have no message and to ensure that we 248 00:14:04,380 --> 00:14:07,110 can put forward the solutions American people are clamoring 249 00:14:07,110 --> 00:14:09,150 for now let's listen to Gary Johnson. 250 00:14:09,450 --> 00:14:11,640 That was a little bit longer than 30 seconds. I didn't give 251 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:16,230 you the time. But let's do well. Gary, we'll give him a minute or 252 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:16,800 so to do it. But 253 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,870 if you've got you're ready, John, because, you know, I'm 254 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:21,600 still on the fence between Roseanne Barr and Gary Johnson. 255 00:14:22,050 --> 00:14:25,320 Yeah, but I think Gary Johnson clinches it with with this 256 00:14:25,350 --> 00:14:27,990 performance in his CNN third party debate 257 00:14:28,199 --> 00:14:32,369 30 seconds Gary so why do you feel you'd be best suited to to 258 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:34,469 run the country and why are you running? 259 00:14:35,670 --> 00:14:38,010 Well, I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't think I could do a 260 00:14:38,010 --> 00:14:41,280 really good job at being president united states been an 261 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,430 entrepreneur my entire life to term governor of New Mexico I 262 00:14:44,430 --> 00:14:47,910 think very successfully at that and the differences between 263 00:14:47,910 --> 00:14:51,240 myself and other candidates look Let's not buy my ran let's get 264 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,480 out of Afghanistan now bring the troops home. I think that 265 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,150 marriage equality is a constitutionally guaranteed 266 00:14:57,150 --> 00:15:00,120 right let's end the drug wars. Let's legalize marijuana now. I 267 00:15:00,510 --> 00:15:03,030 would have never signed the National Defense Authorization 268 00:15:03,030 --> 00:15:05,970 Act, I would repeal the Patriot Act. I think that we need to 269 00:15:05,970 --> 00:15:08,700 balance the federal budget now or we're going to find ourselves 270 00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:12,900 in a monetary collapse and let's abolish the IRS and eliminate 271 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:15,810 income tax and corporate tax will reboot the American 272 00:15:15,810 --> 00:15:19,560 economy. 10s of millions of jobs get created in a zero corporate 273 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,380 tax rate. Environment. How good is that guy? 274 00:15:23,940 --> 00:15:26,130 Just you don't want him up there debate and the only 275 00:15:26,130 --> 00:15:28,950 thing the only thing he didn't say was hookers and blow for 276 00:15:28,950 --> 00:15:32,190 everybody. I mean, that's the only thing I was missing. A 277 00:15:32,190 --> 00:15:33,150 guy's great. 278 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,560 Well, so all the good it does. Right 279 00:15:37,590 --> 00:15:39,750 now. But good. How funny would it be though, if you had that 280 00:15:39,750 --> 00:15:45,840 debate, if you had like Biden, Joe Biden, or? Or was Obama and 281 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,280 Obama, Obama or Romney against Gary Johnson, it would be like 282 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,920 no contest. Because he only 283 00:15:52,949 --> 00:15:54,899 didn't know he would wait, he would wipe the room with those 284 00:15:54,899 --> 00:15:58,019 two guys. Those two guys are stooges. They're stooges for the 285 00:15:58,019 --> 00:16:00,989 military industrial complex. It's so apparent. Yeah, they're 286 00:16:00,989 --> 00:16:04,289 good. They didn't do anything. I mean, Obama is just essentially, 287 00:16:04,319 --> 00:16:09,149 like somebody said to me, so we're gonna vote for in the 2008 288 00:16:09,149 --> 00:16:12,179 election, say, I think I'm gonna vote for McCain don't vote for 289 00:16:12,179 --> 00:16:14,879 McCain, because we vote for McCain. These wars are going to 290 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:18,029 drag on they're never going to repeal the Patriot Act, the 291 00:16:18,029 --> 00:16:20,579 economy is probably going to get worse and worse. And I said, 292 00:16:20,879 --> 00:16:26,009 Well, maybe it turns out, he was right. Yes. for McCain. The 293 00:16:26,009 --> 00:16:30,059 economy got worse. I know. It's an old joke. 294 00:16:30,090 --> 00:16:34,650 So the only thing? Well, there's a couple things. Biden had a big 295 00:16:34,650 --> 00:16:38,820 fat lie. A BIG BIG LIE that I was surprised that I have not 296 00:16:38,820 --> 00:16:42,030 heard one. He had a bunch of bull crap in there. Well, I but 297 00:16:42,060 --> 00:16:45,330 there was like a really big one. Which one you think well listen 298 00:16:45,330 --> 00:16:46,410 to this audio talk 299 00:16:46,410 --> 00:16:49,470 about this great recession if it fell out of the sky, like Oh, my 300 00:16:49,470 --> 00:16:53,160 goodness, where did it come from? It came from this man 301 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,180 voting to put two wars in a credit card to at the same time 302 00:16:57,180 --> 00:17:01,200 put a prescription drug benefit of the credit card, a trillion 303 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,620 dollar tax cut for very wealthy I was there. I voted against 304 00:17:04,620 --> 00:17:06,300 them. I said, No, we can't afford that. 305 00:17:06,330 --> 00:17:08,940 Now. Did I hear him just say that he voted against the wars, 306 00:17:08,940 --> 00:17:11,670 the two wars that we put on the credit card? Is that what I 307 00:17:11,670 --> 00:17:14,640 heard him say, John, is what he said, Okay, let me just say, 308 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,850 wait, wait, wait, if you parse it, if you parse it carefully. 309 00:17:18,510 --> 00:17:22,560 It may be that he really said he voted against the one thing that 310 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,870 he said at the end of his little list now, 311 00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:27,840 but he says he says I voted against them. So that 312 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,080 voted against it. They talk about 313 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,870 this great recession if it fell out of the sky, like Oh, my 314 00:17:33,870 --> 00:17:37,560 goodness, where did it come from? It came from this man 315 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,550 voting to put two wars in a credit card to at the same time 316 00:17:41,550 --> 00:17:45,600 put a prescription drug benefit of the credit card a trillion 317 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,990 dollar tax cut for very wealthy I was there. I voted against 318 00:17:48,990 --> 00:17:51,300 them. I said that we can't afford that. I voted 319 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:56,250 against them. Yeah, big. Okay. Well, just wanted to point out 320 00:17:56,250 --> 00:18:04,260 that on joint resolution 23, September 14 2001. Joe Biden 321 00:18:04,290 --> 00:18:13,590 voted yay. And on the Iraqi vote, Joe Biden voted Yay. So 322 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:17,100 unless I misunderstood, which is possible, but it sure sounded to 323 00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:20,280 me. Like he was saying, I was there my friends. 324 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,070 I was there. I voted against I voted against it. 325 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:25,230 Well, he voted for them. So yeah, 326 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:27,900 it's a lie. Well, he also apparently Rupert Murdoch took 327 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:31,200 him to test on his Twitter feed, which I actually now believe 328 00:18:31,230 --> 00:18:35,430 he's actually writing. Okay, because he got nothing else to 329 00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:39,480 do. He says his bullcrap he says Obama and Netanyahu aren't the 330 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,520 best of friends is though Biden made it chatting all the time. 331 00:18:44,550 --> 00:18:46,470 In fact, they're drinking together. 332 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:49,710 They're on Facebook, the Facebook friends chatting it up. 333 00:18:49,740 --> 00:18:56,490 They're on mumble I hear. Okay, so So there were some really, I 334 00:18:56,490 --> 00:19:00,120 mean, I lost the kind of interest in watching one. When 335 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:02,970 these guys they don't even understand the basic principles 336 00:19:02,970 --> 00:19:06,960 of what their jobs are or what their their boss's jobs are. 337 00:19:07,470 --> 00:19:10,020 Here's the question came to Ryan and 338 00:19:10,170 --> 00:19:14,040 waited for Russia to give us the green light at the UN Russia do 339 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,600 something but they're still arming the man. Iran is flying 340 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,190 flights over Iraq, and the 341 00:19:20,190 --> 00:19:23,970 opposite is being armed to help Bashar Assad. 342 00:19:24,570 --> 00:19:26,910 And by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that 343 00:19:26,910 --> 00:19:29,490 the Vice President said he would bet his vice presidency on in 344 00:19:29,490 --> 00:19:32,610 Iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that. But 345 00:19:32,610 --> 00:19:33,990 he failed to achieve that as well. 346 00:19:34,620 --> 00:19:37,050 Let me ask you the question, what's your criteria for 347 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:39,720 intervention? Okay, so the question is, what is your 348 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:45,210 criteria for an intervention in Syria? There is only one but 349 00:19:45,210 --> 00:19:46,800 we'll listen to what Ryan says 350 00:19:47,010 --> 00:19:50,790 in Syria. Worldwide, what is in the national interests of the 351 00:19:50,790 --> 00:19:51,480 American people? 352 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,430 Wrong? I'm sorry, that is wrong. That is only if Congress votes 353 00:19:56,460 --> 00:20:00,810 to go to war. There's no other criteria. The people The people, 354 00:20:00,930 --> 00:20:05,610 not you douchey only the people can do that. Now let's listen to 355 00:20:05,940 --> 00:20:09,300 a very egregious statement by Joe Biden. What would you say to 356 00:20:09,300 --> 00:20:13,110 that American hero about this campaign? And at the end of the 357 00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:19,350 day, are you ever embarrassed by the tone? Vice President Biden. 358 00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:24,270 I would say to him the same thing I say to my son who did 359 00:20:24,270 --> 00:20:30,150 serve a year in Iraq, that we only have one truly sacred 360 00:20:30,150 --> 00:20:30,840 obligation, 361 00:20:30,900 --> 00:20:35,490 only one truly sacred obligation as a government, as a 362 00:20:35,490 --> 00:20:35,910 government. 363 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,090 That's to clip those we send into harm's way and care for 364 00:20:39,090 --> 00:20:40,650 those who come home. 365 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:45,060 Now. I'm sorry, that is wrong. That should be to defend the 366 00:20:45,060 --> 00:20:49,170 Constitution. That is the only sacred thing you have you 367 00:20:49,170 --> 00:20:53,070 douche. These, these things really get me when I hear them 368 00:20:53,070 --> 00:20:57,600 say this. How can you how can you do this? How can you do 369 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,090 these things? This is just it's so natural. I 370 00:21:00,090 --> 00:21:02,820 think the Constitution is being marginalized on a daily basis, 371 00:21:02,820 --> 00:21:04,050 so we can just get rid of it. 372 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:09,420 But I did learn something. And I'm surprised that well, maybe, 373 00:21:09,450 --> 00:21:11,910 I mean, I learned what the fighting season is all about. 374 00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:14,940 And the fighting seas Yes. 375 00:21:14,970 --> 00:21:18,210 illustrate the issue here. Because I think this can be a 376 00:21:18,210 --> 00:21:21,720 little confusing. We've all met with General Allen and general 377 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,570 scrapper karate in Afghanistan to talk about fighting seasons, 378 00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:25,740 here's the way it works. 379 00:21:27,030 --> 00:21:28,770 We're gonna get an explanation. Oh, I'm 380 00:21:29,580 --> 00:21:33,300 just filling with snow. The Taliban and the terrorists in 381 00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:37,710 the economy and the kid Assura come over from Pakistan to fight 382 00:21:37,710 --> 00:21:40,500 our men and women. When it fills in with snow, they can't do it. 383 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:42,810 That's what we call fighting seasons. In the warm months. 384 00:21:42,930 --> 00:21:47,220 Fighting gets really high. In the winter, it goes down. And so 385 00:21:47,250 --> 00:21:51,510 when Admiral Mullen and General Petraeus came to Congress and 386 00:21:51,510 --> 00:21:55,290 said, if you pull these people out before the fighting season 387 00:21:55,290 --> 00:21:57,210 is end, it puts people more like that 388 00:21:57,210 --> 00:21:59,670 grammar. If you pull these people out before the fighting 389 00:21:59,670 --> 00:22:03,990 season is end, you can say over or has ended, but fighting 390 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:07,290 season is end is something's wrong with your programming 391 00:22:07,290 --> 00:22:08,280 search risk. 392 00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:12,360 That's the problem. Yes, we drew 22,000 troops down last month. 393 00:22:12,750 --> 00:22:15,780 But the remaining troops that are there who still have the 394 00:22:15,780 --> 00:22:19,500 same mission to prosecute counterinsurgency are doing it 395 00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:22,410 with fewer people. That makes them less 396 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,080 now here's where it got really interesting. Not a mission to 397 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,550 prosecute. Oh, yeah. The wording is beautiful, is beautiful. It's 398 00:22:29,550 --> 00:22:32,400 got a weird way of saying things. Well, some of us just 399 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,370 grammatically incorrect. But now they get into a little tit for 400 00:22:35,370 --> 00:22:37,020 tat, which had me thinking about something. 401 00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:42,600 We're sending fewer people out in all these hotspots to do the 402 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,750 same job they were supposed to do a month ago because we took 403 00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:47,190 22,000 people out, 404 00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:52,320 turned them over to the Afghan troops we trained. No one got 405 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,160 pulled out that didn't get filled in by train Afghan 406 00:22:56,250 --> 00:23:00,750 personnel. And he's confused. He's He's conflating two issues. 407 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:04,500 The fighting season that Petraeus was talking about, 408 00:23:04,590 --> 00:23:09,870 is that correct? conflating as it Yeah. Is it like isn't a 409 00:23:09,870 --> 00:23:13,770 configuration or conflating? I never heard the word conflate. 410 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,130 I've used it right. Let's look it up. Yes, this 411 00:23:17,130 --> 00:23:24,210 is a very good idea. What does conflate mean? conflates, 412 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:31,230 definition conflate to combine? No, that's actually a very good, 413 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,960 very good use of the word. to conflate to combine them Okay, 414 00:23:36,990 --> 00:23:39,480 now we'll take Yeah, they did. Well, yes. 415 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,790 We will take that as a correct answer. 416 00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:45,930 Former and Admiral Mullen was the fighting season this spring. 417 00:23:46,830 --> 00:23:50,520 When he was talking about we did not we did not pull them out. 418 00:23:50,550 --> 00:23:53,100 The calendar works the same every year. It does work 419 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:56,190 the same every year. Summer fall. 420 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,230 It's warm or it's not so I when I heard that. I thought we just 421 00:24:01,230 --> 00:24:03,060 spring summer have a 422 00:24:05,370 --> 00:24:06,570 long way to go for a joke. 423 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:09,060 Wow. Yeah. 424 00:24:14,610 --> 00:24:17,580 So that was just the worst debate ever. It was it was 425 00:24:18,030 --> 00:24:22,140 really Oh, Biden's yucking it up and I'm surprised you know, all 426 00:24:22,170 --> 00:24:25,860 of all Ryan had to do was stop and look at him while he was 427 00:24:25,860 --> 00:24:27,930 mugging and say to him. 428 00:24:28,860 --> 00:24:31,290 What are you doing? What do you what do you do? What's wrong 429 00:24:31,290 --> 00:24:32,310 with your face? 430 00:24:33,810 --> 00:24:37,830 I mean, why didn't he call him out and just stop and say 431 00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:40,920 something like, are you done yet? I mean, he could have 432 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,310 called him out as a little kid. Yeah, by just stopping and 433 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:46,710 looking at him because he just had to see him because their way 434 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:50,070 their table was set up. You had to see him rolling his eyes and 435 00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:54,270 given that big dumb smile and laughing Oh, yeah. All the rest 436 00:24:54,270 --> 00:24:56,130 of it, but he didn't do anything. He's just such a 437 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,210 weenie. Yeah. 438 00:24:58,890 --> 00:25:02,010 Well, and it's interesting. If it was, I think crowd crowd 439 00:25:02,010 --> 00:25:06,600 Heimer Krauthammer. He said this, you wouldn't hear you 440 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,910 would interpret this debate one way if you only read the 441 00:25:08,910 --> 00:25:14,760 transcript, you would interpret it another way. If you if you if 442 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,990 you heard on on radio, because of course you wouldn't see Joe 443 00:25:18,990 --> 00:25:22,020 Biden making all the grimacing faces and laughing and yucking 444 00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:24,720 it up. And on television Of course, it was very, I thought 445 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,910 it I found it to be very uncomfortable. You know, it's 446 00:25:26,910 --> 00:25:30,600 one thing if you think somebody's lying, it's another 447 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,960 thing to just, you know, keep smiling about it is 448 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,190 creepy. just creepy. No, it's totally creepy. Guy's creepy. 449 00:25:38,490 --> 00:25:43,950 But lot Lawrence O'Donnell. He's on the lean forward. Obama 450 00:25:43,950 --> 00:25:46,140 channel. Yeah, MSN do. 451 00:25:47,250 --> 00:25:49,380 Ms. Ms. DNC, 452 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:56,220 Ms. MSN, MSNBC, Obama channel. He has he has an idea. He knows 453 00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:59,220 how to fix all of this. He thinks we should change the 454 00:25:59,220 --> 00:26:00,360 rules of the debate. 455 00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:04,860 The debates now put candidates through ridiculous memorization 456 00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:07,860 tests, tests that have nothing to do with the job of being 457 00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:08,310 President. 458 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,320 What a memorization test really, really is. Maybe your guy is on 459 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,550 a memorization trip, 460 00:26:14,610 --> 00:26:19,440 there will always be staff present to remind the President 461 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,520 or brief the President on whatever he or she needs to 462 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,600 remember or know more to change his batteries, which is why to 463 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,240 return to the protocol of Senators debating in the Senate 464 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,280 chamber, each candidate should be allowed at least one staff 465 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,880 member to sit beside the candidate throughout the debate. 466 00:26:39,870 --> 00:26:45,060 Oh, crazy. But your lawyer whispered, is not even slightly 467 00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:48,870 distracting to Senate debates to have a silent staff member 468 00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:53,670 sitting beside the senator, as you see, every day on C span. 469 00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:56,340 Oh, handing the senator a document that will support what 470 00:26:56,340 --> 00:26:59,250 the Senator is about to say I used to be one of those people 471 00:26:59,250 --> 00:27:01,980 in the staff chair on the Senate floor or in hearings. And 472 00:27:02,010 --> 00:27:05,130 this is this is nuts. And I'm telling you that this is they're 473 00:27:05,130 --> 00:27:08,880 really considering making this change. Because Oh, you know, 474 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,680 you can't have somebody remember, hey, why don't you 475 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,440 just give the guy his teleprompter? Just put 476 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,230 teleprompter? That'd be great. Who needs it? 477 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,440 Wait a minute. Did you suggesting that What did 478 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,320 everyone do what Bush did in the last debate and have that thing 479 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,870 and his transmitter the transmitter exactly why he goes 480 00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:25,590 in first out 481 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:28,620 what he wants. And Obama, you said that he might have had one 482 00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:31,260 in his lat in the last debate he wants, he wants to wish he would 483 00:27:31,260 --> 00:27:33,270 have made sense. That's why I had to keep looking down so I 484 00:27:33,270 --> 00:27:35,130 could listen to the guy. Like Hold 485 00:27:35,130 --> 00:27:38,490 on a sec. I can't I can't hear you. He Larry here suggests even 486 00:27:38,490 --> 00:27:38,790 more 487 00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:41,310 friends of mine, who were watching on C span didn't even 488 00:27:41,310 --> 00:27:45,960 notice me. That's how invisible staff can be in government, but 489 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,520 they are absolutely essential in government. The President is 490 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,230 never alone with a decision. And you would never want him to be. 491 00:27:55,890 --> 00:27:56,460 What is 492 00:27:56,460 --> 00:28:00,690 this? This guy's on drugs. And he's not sharing, and he's not 493 00:28:00,690 --> 00:28:09,090 sharing his drugs. It's just nuts. Meanwhile, of course, Joe 494 00:28:09,090 --> 00:28:13,290 Biden really made a big mistake. And yet, and his biggest mistake 495 00:28:13,290 --> 00:28:16,050 was throwing it Hillary Clinton under the bus. 496 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,740 You may or may. 497 00:28:20,850 --> 00:28:24,690 I'm subscribing to the notion I think you might be too which is 498 00:28:24,690 --> 00:28:32,430 that Hillary is trying to derail the the Obama reelection. So she 499 00:28:32,430 --> 00:28:38,700 has a better shot at 2016. And so I think they're becoming 500 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:39,780 aware of this. 501 00:28:40,139 --> 00:28:46,559 And they're fighting back. Yeah. So this is from the the press, 502 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:49,529 of course, is completely complicit in this and they know 503 00:28:49,529 --> 00:28:54,179 their role. This was spokes whole Carney trying to defend 504 00:28:54,989 --> 00:29:01,079 his man versus the press saying, Well, you know, how could How 505 00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:05,909 could Biden say that they didn't know, more security had been 506 00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:10,439 requested, even though he knew that security had been 507 00:29:10,439 --> 00:29:13,979 requested, when he did the debate, because that had already 508 00:29:13,979 --> 00:29:18,329 been out in testimony in that four hour testimony, but he's 509 00:29:18,329 --> 00:29:21,059 still saying that we didn't know we didn't know and Kearney is 510 00:29:21,059 --> 00:29:23,339 basically saying it's Clinton's job. 511 00:29:24,270 --> 00:29:26,970 Wanted to ask you about Libya and the Vice President's 512 00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:30,210 response yesterday in the debate, Martha Raddatz mentioned 513 00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:33,480 to him the US officials and Lydia had asked for more 514 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,720 security there and the Vice President replied, Well, we 515 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,480 weren't told they wanted more security there. We did not know 516 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,830 they wanted more security again. That That wasn't the testimony 517 00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:46,650 at the oversight hearing. On Wednesday, though, Charlene Lam 518 00:29:46,650 --> 00:29:50,070 conceded that she had refused requests for more security. So 519 00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:53,280 I'm wondering, what what did the vice president mean that what 520 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,890 did he mean by Wait? Did he mean the administration did He mean 521 00:29:55,890 --> 00:29:57,120 the White House they 522 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,510 are speaking directly for himself and for the President he 523 00:30:00,510 --> 00:30:03,000 meant the White House now. Okay. Just want to make sure we 524 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,440 understand that. He was just I don't hear anything. We don't 525 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,840 know anything. We just sit up here in a little white house. 526 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,670 Yeah, we didn't know yet those 527 00:30:11,670 --> 00:30:13,740 guys talking in our ear, but I guess they don't talk loud 528 00:30:13,740 --> 00:30:14,310 enough now. 529 00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:17,640 That's about all I had on the debate. 530 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,340 I think that's enough. Yeah. Yeah, I 531 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:20,970 would agree. 532 00:30:23,130 --> 00:30:25,170 It means nothing. I guess there's the next debate. What is 533 00:30:25,170 --> 00:30:25,830 Tuesday? 534 00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:29,580 By Tuesday is the next debate. Yep. It'll be 535 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:31,740 interesting to see how Obama does on this one. 536 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,200 We want to make predictions. 537 00:30:35,850 --> 00:30:38,550 Well, I think we predicted pretty well that Oh, Biden was 538 00:30:38,550 --> 00:30:42,420 gonna bring up the 47%. And he did. Yeah. And you made some 539 00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:45,150 prediction that somebody on Twitter went crazy about saying 540 00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:49,230 you're unbelievably visionary first coming up with something. 541 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,060 I am, I am visionary. I am visionary, I tell you I see into 542 00:30:54,060 --> 00:31:01,920 the future. Well, something happened. And I'm not quite sure 543 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,550 if that because here's what I think is going on. We have the 544 00:31:05,580 --> 00:31:09,390 Benghazi situation, of course, Benghazi gate, as we're calling 545 00:31:09,390 --> 00:31:13,050 it out Benghazi gate. That is the mean, we want to put out 546 00:31:13,050 --> 00:31:15,960 there. Because this, of course, would be great to have this 547 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,160 conversation during the next debate. So you can see the 548 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,900 entire move the push, like, oh, let's they were lying, they were 549 00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,660 covering up, you know, this is this is this has got to come out 550 00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:33,270 to the forefront of the of the debate on Tuesday. And the that 551 00:31:33,270 --> 00:31:36,840 would be the Republican side, the Democratic side, is trying 552 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,980 to thwart that. And somehow someone gave the wrong message 553 00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:46,230 to Al's Awapuhi now he's the he's you know, he's now the new 554 00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:49,320 number one in in Al Qaeda, or is he still number two? 555 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:54,270 I don't really keep a diary. I don't subscribe to ring magazine 556 00:31:54,270 --> 00:31:57,060 anymore. So I don't know where he sits in the World 557 00:31:57,060 --> 00:31:59,820 Championship does scale there. But he 558 00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:01,470 definitely has gotten the wrong memo. 559 00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:03,990 Tonight. We're hearing from outside as leader for the first 560 00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:08,100 time since September 11. In an audio posted to a website, I'm 561 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:12,420 in Oslo, aakhri. urges Muslims to wage holy war against the US 562 00:32:12,420 --> 00:32:13,200 and Israel 563 00:32:13,410 --> 00:32:17,130 over that, you know, no, never heard of such a thing. Don't 564 00:32:17,130 --> 00:32:18,060 step on it. 565 00:32:19,230 --> 00:32:23,910 Wage holy war against the US and Israel over that YouTube video 566 00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:25,410 that mocked the Prophet Muhammad. 567 00:32:26,730 --> 00:32:34,200 What? What? He got the wrong script. An idiot. 568 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,950 So you know, now now we know the guys on someone's payroll, but 569 00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:39,900 someone's not communicating properly. 570 00:32:39,930 --> 00:32:42,690 Yeah, they're not getting his memos around fast enough. 571 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,430 How dumb is that? No, dude. ixnay on the ad obey. What do 572 00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:51,750 you say? And even the fact that this report says, on a site, 573 00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:58,710 somewhere, nondescript, just on a site, he said, Yeah, and they 574 00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:01,380 never have the, the actual video, they just have some B 575 00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:04,650 roll and just tell you what they think the guy said, according to 576 00:33:04,650 --> 00:33:09,510 some kind of intelligence. But haven't you know, this is this 577 00:33:09,510 --> 00:33:11,880 is wrong. This is really stupid. 578 00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:15,059 So the video thing is on the on the back burner. So what do you 579 00:33:15,059 --> 00:33:17,699 think? I think the what's going to happen is I think the 580 00:33:17,699 --> 00:33:22,469 Democrats are or maybe elderlaw. I don't think Hillary thinks 581 00:33:22,469 --> 00:33:24,389 it's such a great idea, because she's going to take a lot of 582 00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:29,549 heat for this, but which isn't good. But for her. I think that 583 00:33:29,579 --> 00:33:34,169 anything to get the conversation off the economy. Oh, yeah. With 584 00:33:34,469 --> 00:33:35,729 benefits to Democrats. 585 00:33:35,820 --> 00:33:43,200 Big deal. Well. Yeah, but the Benghazi thing is is tough 586 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:43,680 because 587 00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:49,230 I don't think the public cares at all. Oh, I'm 588 00:33:49,230 --> 00:33:52,470 not gonna argue whether the public cares, but I think the 589 00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:55,830 campaign's believe it matters. Yeah, I 590 00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:57,480 think they do. But I think the wrong 591 00:34:00,330 --> 00:34:01,680 what does the public care about? 592 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,650 They care about getting gig, you know, having a job again, 593 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,900 getting more money than they made last year. I mean, that's 594 00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:09,270 an all the public cares about it, right. And they're not 595 00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:11,370 making more money than they made last year, the year before the 596 00:34:11,370 --> 00:34:13,740 year before, and they want to be able to sell and buy houses. 597 00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:16,260 They can't do that the banks aren't lending money. I mean, 598 00:34:16,260 --> 00:34:18,570 that those are the issues that people care about. And they 599 00:34:18,570 --> 00:34:22,230 don't care about Benghazi they have, you know, you could go out 600 00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:24,630 in the street right now and then interview 100 people, and I 601 00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:29,040 would say 99 of them would not even know where Benghazi is. Are 602 00:34:29,310 --> 00:34:30,210 you ever heard of it? 603 00:34:31,650 --> 00:34:33,870 Yeah, you're probably right. 604 00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:36,689 And the one guy would probably be wrong, that you had something 605 00:34:36,689 --> 00:34:37,139 to say 606 00:34:37,170 --> 00:34:40,650 so what So are you saying that both candidates actually want to 607 00:34:40,650 --> 00:34:44,760 focus on on things other than the economy or No, no, 608 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,760 they were put though the Republicans are being suckered 609 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,670 left and right. And it was focusing on the wrong and the 610 00:34:50,670 --> 00:34:54,060 Democrats just loved it. The Democrats love anything, but 611 00:34:54,060 --> 00:34:58,260 talking about the economy, right. Good point. Good point. 612 00:34:58,980 --> 00:35:01,800 So there'll be contrived At the same mistakes were made, 613 00:35:02,130 --> 00:35:05,850 mistakes were made and won't happen again. And we got to get 614 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,870 good at moving our troops out of Afghanistan and 2014 and all 615 00:35:09,870 --> 00:35:12,300 foreign policy in the next debate by the way is about 616 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:15,120 foreign policy which means it's going to be really bad right? 617 00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:18,690 It's going to be just don't be the first debate was about 618 00:35:18,690 --> 00:35:22,140 domestic policy and I what Jeremy remember the first debate 619 00:35:22,350 --> 00:35:24,720 was, what was important that I don't I 620 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,840 don't remember anything. I don't remember every single thing they 621 00:35:27,870 --> 00:35:29,880 talked about. We I don't remember 622 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,510 anything either. 623 00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:32,880 We didn't have a huge distraction. They floated a 624 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,860 little trial balloon and tried to do this again, 625 00:35:35,130 --> 00:35:38,160 as well. for staying with us for the next hour. We do have to 626 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:38,820 start tonight 627 00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:41,880 notices the MSNBC oh wow Obama channel again 628 00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:44,730 with some breaking news. We have some more details for you about 629 00:35:44,730 --> 00:35:46,920 the breaking news that is just in tonight. Breaking news, 630 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,050 breaking news. More details on the breaking news is breaking 631 00:35:49,050 --> 00:35:52,380 news, John. Oh, standby. I gotta tell you it's breaking news 632 00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:53,610 broke a mad cow. What is it 633 00:35:53,850 --> 00:35:58,860 about this shot this gunshot fired at the Obama campaign's 634 00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:02,310 headquarters in Denver, Colorado late today. These are pictures 635 00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:05,400 that we've got of the shattered window front of the Obama 636 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,940 campaign office, according to the reports that we have so far. 637 00:36:09,180 --> 00:36:13,320 There were people inside the campaign office at the time of 638 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,930 this incident, which is in part what makes this a story of 639 00:36:15,930 --> 00:36:18,930 national significance. Really, what 640 00:36:19,620 --> 00:36:23,490 really, that was national significance because 641 00:36:23,490 --> 00:36:27,660 someone was around a bullet. Hey, come to Oakland lady. 642 00:36:30,180 --> 00:36:31,860 national significance. 643 00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:36,300 Come to Oakland, ladies and gentlemen. Were the occupied 644 00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:40,410 people rammed the Obama campaign headquarters within they busted 645 00:36:40,410 --> 00:36:43,350 into place and tore it up but that barely didn't cover that. 646 00:36:43,350 --> 00:36:44,280 Did they on MSN 647 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,740 it was not of national significance. 648 00:36:47,129 --> 00:36:51,269 It seems like it was to me but no, no, I rent a stray bullet. I 649 00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:54,540 think it was white supremacist. 650 00:36:55,169 --> 00:36:57,449 Well, I was I think the story would have been better if 651 00:36:57,449 --> 00:36:59,039 somebody put a swastika on 652 00:37:00,570 --> 00:37:03,570 no swastikas are not for no we don't many Obama 653 00:37:03,570 --> 00:37:05,880 campaign should you nobody was hurt this because everyone was 654 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,260 told the bullets come in. No, no. You 655 00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:10,020 see the bullet went from the inside out. 656 00:37:11,370 --> 00:37:13,800 Good. Yeah. That's the way I see 657 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,500 it. And they had the kind of I didn't didn't clip it, but they 658 00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:19,890 had the cops on. Normally in this type of story. The cop was 659 00:37:19,890 --> 00:37:23,790 like, you know, it was a nine millimeter. It was an AK 47 and 660 00:37:23,790 --> 00:37:28,650 was you know, you know, getaway car, nothing of that. Just no 661 00:37:28,650 --> 00:37:33,030 one got hit. That's it. That's all the cops are saying no 662 00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:35,670 details. And of course, the story went nowhere. It was a 663 00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:37,650 trial balloon. They've done they've done this before. We've 664 00:37:37,650 --> 00:37:40,800 seen this trying to distract. That's just for the thing I'm 665 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,130 still waiting for Will there be another just because there's so 666 00:37:44,190 --> 00:37:47,940 there's such megalomaniacs there in the White House? That they 667 00:37:47,940 --> 00:37:51,330 probably want to distract from the economy and from Benghazi. 668 00:37:51,390 --> 00:37:54,480 So they'll try and come up with something else to change the 669 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,740 story. And I think 670 00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:58,470 they're gonna I don't think they I think they got a winner with 671 00:37:58,470 --> 00:38:02,250 this Benghazi thing. Okay, because it's the lab let us suck 672 00:38:02,250 --> 00:38:05,970 up all the all the cycles and screw it. Who cares? 673 00:38:06,030 --> 00:38:10,170 Interesting, which, which could also make us think that it was 674 00:38:10,590 --> 00:38:12,900 it's always been in their interest from the get go to have 675 00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:14,280 this Benghazi thing happen? 676 00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:20,010 Or maybe they had to get rid of that guy. I mean, like Serpico 677 00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:23,610 explain the Serpico 678 00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:27,150 surfer go the movie. Yeah, Serpico was a very famous police 679 00:38:27,150 --> 00:38:30,930 officer who was I guess in New York, New York City, New Jersey, 680 00:38:30,930 --> 00:38:33,630 I think was in New York. No, no, he was in New Jersey. And it was 681 00:38:33,630 --> 00:38:38,220 Jersey cop. And he was he was like a straight he was not 682 00:38:38,220 --> 00:38:41,880 corrupt. Yeah. And so he wouldn't take bribes he wouldn't 683 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,130 do all this stuff but it but there was a known fact that a 684 00:38:44,130 --> 00:38:46,410 lot of drug dealing. All this stuff was going on. It was under 685 00:38:46,410 --> 00:38:49,080 right under the police watch because they were just taking 686 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,590 money, but he wouldn't do it. And so one day was sent off to 687 00:38:52,590 --> 00:38:55,080 some bus somewhere where he's supposed to have all this backup 688 00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:00,660 and nobody showed up. As they Hey, you're on your own. Yes. So 689 00:39:01,050 --> 00:39:04,140 they almost killed him to be where he lives not 690 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,870 your Frank Serpico lives now. 691 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,220 Where Amsterdam Oh, Jesse. Really? Yeah, he's 692 00:39:11,250 --> 00:39:14,610 he's laying low in Amsterdam people still want to kill him. 693 00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:20,040 Well, yeah, it wouldn't surprise me so anyway, so this guy may 694 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,020 have been in that boat and even though I still think it was a 695 00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:27,330 bunch of kidnapping but it was reporting we just know that's 696 00:39:27,330 --> 00:39:31,050 wrong and now so we have to just assume that you know any of 697 00:39:31,050 --> 00:39:34,620 these theories that that are possibilities are probably one 698 00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:38,040 of them is more likely to be correct but obviously they 699 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,440 didn't send them didn't send any extra help there and this whole 700 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,500 thing was in the dead of night I mean, no, it's fishy from the 701 00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,470 get go so I but I think it's a great distraction for them 702 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,900 because it takes the public does not care 703 00:39:49,230 --> 00:39:52,140 at all. We just care about eating 704 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,180 and Honey BooBoo. 705 00:39:57,060 --> 00:40:01,230 That's a word that that has been banned from this for The clips 706 00:40:01,230 --> 00:40:05,370 are okay you can say the name on a boo boo. I don't know if the 707 00:40:05,370 --> 00:40:09,480 voice is kicking everyone's ass so Honey BooBoo is just as 708 00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:13,080 Honey BooBoo is a reality show. They're on cable. Yeah, so the 709 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,640 voice isn't really competing with 710 00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:17,760 Duck Dynasty is kicking Honey Boo Boos ass. 711 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:20,310 Oh, Duck Dynasty is a winner. 712 00:40:20,730 --> 00:40:21,270 Yeah 713 00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:26,220 Yeah Did you see that guy there? No, no, 714 00:40:26,460 --> 00:40:28,620 no I don't watch it. 715 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,440 Oh no there's a clip they had the Duck Dynasty. I think it was 716 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,670 on the view or something. 717 00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:34,110 Oh no, I got other things. 718 00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:38,910 We had this clip. I saw it. I got the guy on the viewer. He's 719 00:40:38,910 --> 00:40:44,190 a big he's Oh, somebody asked somebody. Somebody asked him 720 00:40:44,190 --> 00:40:48,660 what is it that scares you? And the guy goes chlamydia 721 00:40:55,980 --> 00:40:57,090 so the guy's a comedian. 722 00:40:59,850 --> 00:41:03,090 Let's thank our producers before we go any further we've been 723 00:41:03,090 --> 00:41:07,230 yapping way too long. Boy do we have any producers 724 00:41:07,830 --> 00:41:10,770 we bet well we luckily we got identity tonight which is a big 725 00:41:10,770 --> 00:41:16,170 deal. And but generally speaking, I would say this this 726 00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:20,310 particular show is quite light. Right and which is unfortunate. 727 00:41:20,430 --> 00:41:26,520 But there you go. So what happens meanwhile? I'm 728 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,890 downloading it Oh, really? Well, I just this is I'm using I'm 729 00:41:31,890 --> 00:41:37,410 using Chrome and normally when I was using it we always used to 730 00:41:37,410 --> 00:41:40,050 automatically download but this No I gotta click on something 731 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,960 alright, so we have one executive producer our instant 732 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,780 night and one Associate Executive Producer and that's it 733 00:41:46,350 --> 00:41:50,220 so our instant night is a sir will will be oh he's already a 734 00:41:50,220 --> 00:41:50,730 Sir 735 00:41:52,890 --> 00:41:55,890 Okay, well it's Yeah. Ryan he's doubling down then. 736 00:41:56,370 --> 00:42:01,860 Brian bemrose Orion bemrose in Everett Washington 2000 Yeah the 737 00:42:01,860 --> 00:42:03,930 Texas supposed to go with my donation every October my 738 00:42:03,930 --> 00:42:06,330 company has a giving campaign where they badger their 739 00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:08,550 employees and to donate to a charity by the way I worked for 740 00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:14,130 union oil and they did that to us it was like it was the 741 00:42:14,130 --> 00:42:19,410 ineffective mentioned who it was. Oh, one second, okay. This 742 00:42:19,410 --> 00:42:22,500 is I can't stomach the thought of my hard tax dollars going to 743 00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:27,540 the United Way or the Clinton Foundation. I'm instead instead 744 00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:30,090 sending it to no agenda though. I don't expect a matching 745 00:42:30,090 --> 00:42:33,540 contribution from the company. The only thing I ask in return 746 00:42:33,540 --> 00:42:37,500 is some karma for Dame Lisa she continues her battle with Ms. 747 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,170 With all the drugs that doctors have prescribed this place is 748 00:42:40,170 --> 00:42:42,150 starting to feel like a Pfizer commercial 749 00:42:42,180 --> 00:42:46,380 All right, well, we definitely will hand out some fdms Karma 750 00:42:46,410 --> 00:42:48,720 you've got karma Thank you very 751 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:52,770 much for your not bad when I was working at a union union oil as 752 00:42:52,770 --> 00:42:57,210 a youngster they had United Way was united way which is exactly 753 00:42:57,210 --> 00:43:01,800 what he says. They had their yearly fundraising for god knows 754 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,940 what we never knew. And it was like you donated or you know, 755 00:43:06,210 --> 00:43:09,120 because it was every apparently every manager in my I guess my 756 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,960 supervisor had to make sure that they get x numbers of dollars or 757 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,440 else 758 00:43:14,610 --> 00:43:16,410 Or else Or else what Oh, is I 759 00:43:16,410 --> 00:43:18,690 don't know it was his bonus or he wouldn't get a raise or they 760 00:43:18,690 --> 00:43:20,940 wouldn't talk to him again. Or they wouldn't be the had to sit 761 00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:21,450 in the corner is 762 00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:25,080 this like? Let me ask you this. This is like a union thing. 763 00:43:26,580 --> 00:43:30,000 Is that when we're non union, it was a non union department. 764 00:43:30,029 --> 00:43:34,559 Okay. All right. Well, thank you very much, sir Ryan. That is so 765 00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:37,619 incredibly nice of you. And power to Dame Lisa there. Thank 766 00:43:37,619 --> 00:43:40,019 you for doubling down on the best podcast in the universe. It 767 00:43:40,019 --> 00:43:42,599 really did help particularly today, we knew it was going to 768 00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,969 be light. So we're happy that you checked in. Thank you so 769 00:43:44,969 --> 00:43:46,019 much for supporting the show. 770 00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:50,220 Uh, Thomas Wyler is our Associate Executive Producer and 771 00:43:50,220 --> 00:43:54,000 now becomes a night with foreigners $240.79 And he's an 772 00:43:54,660 --> 00:43:58,110 older Dreisbach which I believe is in which lamination 773 00:43:58,110 --> 00:43:58,980 Deutschland? Yeah. 774 00:44:01,170 --> 00:44:05,970 I reached him out of 1011 12 I can't wait to get my precious 775 00:44:05,970 --> 00:44:09,900 ring. I love and enjoy your podcast since day one is truly 776 00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:12,510 the best podcast in the universe and a big part of the daily 777 00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:16,920 commute the visa karma I asked for and for 27 worked very well 778 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,100 I have a five and a half weeks in the USA this this summer. 779 00:44:20,250 --> 00:44:23,940 Could you please send me some good luck karma for a new band 780 00:44:23,940 --> 00:44:28,920 I'm with called 77 Bombay street. There for talented 781 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,800 brothers and as big fun to work as a sound engineer and Back 782 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,430 Liner for them. Check out their website 77 Bombay street.com. 783 00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:37,950 Since a year ago, I started listening to the Joe Rogan shows 784 00:44:37,950 --> 00:44:41,640 Well, I think Adam you should get in that show on that show as 785 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,890 a guest he's G tries. If you could send my karma hot milk 786 00:44:46,890 --> 00:44:53,160 little girl stays Zito Chavo jingle. I love you guys. Thomas 787 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,750 Wilder aka wireless owl. Poisonous was in Switzerland, 788 00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:58,290 Switzerland. 789 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,490 So let me just see how As you want Dreisbach Swiss, he wants 790 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,930 one hot meal for little girls. So that's the case Shut up, 791 00:45:06,930 --> 00:45:10,020 slay. Okay, let me see if I can do this. Sure we can one way or 792 00:45:10,020 --> 00:45:16,500 the other. That's one mother, I'd like to shut up, please. 793 00:45:18,690 --> 00:45:23,100 You've got karma. Nailed it. 794 00:45:23,669 --> 00:45:28,409 That was good. Anyway, that concludes our producer segment, 795 00:45:28,409 --> 00:45:34,469 unfortunately for this show for five, two, and we will probably 796 00:45:34,469 --> 00:45:37,829 hopefully pick up a little bit of steam. Next show as we 797 00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:44,069 approach the fifth anniversary, which is on October 26. Big this 798 00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:47,549 month, a big, big deal. Five years of doing this 799 00:45:47,579 --> 00:45:51,839 deconstruction, five years deal, nobody can can come close to 800 00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:55,739 what we do. And we never had a fight. And we still we've had a 801 00:45:55,739 --> 00:46:01,469 couple of fights. And we still have people that say, I know 802 00:46:01,469 --> 00:46:06,029 these guys are crazy. Yeah, crazy. And all we do is read the 803 00:46:06,029 --> 00:46:09,749 bills. And we tell what's in the bill that somebody else is 804 00:46:09,749 --> 00:46:11,789 falling all over themselves about and we say look, here's 805 00:46:11,789 --> 00:46:14,459 what it's really about. Now, how's that crazy? All you do is 806 00:46:14,789 --> 00:46:17,489 a little home the homework a which is a term I don't likes. 807 00:46:17,489 --> 00:46:17,849 Yeah. 808 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,760 Some people call it to what's the word Joe? Joe? Oh, 809 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:24,750 journalism, that's it. 810 00:46:25,710 --> 00:46:28,740 Actually looking at things, you know, looking at indictments, 811 00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:32,340 reading through them, watching C span seeing what people actually 812 00:46:32,340 --> 00:46:35,730 say, recording what they say. And then and then calling them 813 00:46:35,730 --> 00:46:38,490 on it. Finding that you know, Joe Biden says he didn't vote 814 00:46:38,490 --> 00:46:41,880 for the two wars on a credit card. We did. 815 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,080 He did. Yeah. I got some of that stuff. I've done some government 816 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,760 legislation analysis today. Yeah, well, yeah, I got a doozy 817 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,180 for you 818 00:46:51,210 --> 00:46:53,400 recently thing I came up with I was hoping to find some good 819 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,890 stuff with those Russians down in Houston there that were 820 00:46:55,890 --> 00:46:56,340 indicted. 821 00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:59,760 Let me talk Hold on a second. First, the reminder for 822 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,660 everyone. We have the 5555 donation level for our fifth 823 00:47:03,660 --> 00:47:06,510 anniversary October 26. So please go to 824 00:47:06,510 --> 00:47:09,510 vorak.org/n 825 00:47:09,570 --> 00:47:12,180 NF there's nothing for you to donate so far. It's okay because 826 00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:14,760 you can always go out and propagate our formula. Our 827 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,200 formula is this. We go out we hit people in the mouth 828 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:42,240 I am I am receiving information on on this. Now who do we know 829 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:47,700 in the Dallas area who's Russian? Who sir Jean Neff 830 00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:48,420 Tullio F. 831 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:51,000 Oh, that he didn't know he was in Dallas. 832 00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:59,460 And he dude, he I don't know which agency he works for. But 833 00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:02,520 he was responsible for this takedown one way or the other. I 834 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:07,020 know he was involved in it. The he's, this is what he does. And 835 00:48:07,020 --> 00:48:09,840 when you if you ever meet the guy, I hope you do. You'll be 836 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,510 like, okay, no doubt. 837 00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:15,270 Yeah, there's one it was guys your 838 00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:18,540 limit? Let me let me give you a call. I get it. Now. He lives 839 00:48:18,540 --> 00:48:24,390 alone with his pet Python. Are you getting? Are you getting the 840 00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:25,230 picture of Sir? I'm 841 00:48:25,230 --> 00:48:29,100 getting there. Okay. Yes. Is he tall? Short, then? You don't 842 00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:29,280 want 843 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,860 to don't want to bump into him in a dark alley. Let's put it 844 00:48:31,860 --> 00:48:35,820 that way. He's a sweetheart though. And don't get me wrong 845 00:48:35,850 --> 00:48:39,840 total sweetheart. Just Just don't be Russian on the wrong 846 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,790 side of him. That would be kind of bad. 847 00:48:45,210 --> 00:48:52,590 So I ran into a legal blog, export, export bull X export law 848 00:48:52,590 --> 00:48:55,770 blog or something like that. The guy's like, he says, this is a 849 00:48:55,770 --> 00:48:59,940 bunch of bullcrap this indictment because they're 850 00:48:59,940 --> 00:49:03,060 mostly nailing is yes. Or not registering as foreign agents, 851 00:49:03,090 --> 00:49:03,330 which 852 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,950 all spies have to do. 853 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,300 Yeah, but no, 854 00:49:06,570 --> 00:49:09,690 right. Yeah, no, that's true. You know, in every country. 855 00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:13,530 Now you look No. Now this guy explains them. I didn't. 856 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,370 Okay. Let me just make sure that we have an understanding here 857 00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:23,430 that I have no knowledge of this. That each country has 858 00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:26,190 agents and they have to register and of course they have 859 00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:29,520 unregistered agents. But the idea is all your agents are 860 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,000 supposed to be registered. That is the general Geneva Convention 861 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,750 law. No. Okay. All right. I don't know what I'm talking 862 00:49:36,750 --> 00:49:38,760 about. I have no family history. 863 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:43,440 Yeah, the way this if you're looking at I'd have to go find 864 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:49,140 that post. But the reason for registering is not because this 865 00:49:49,140 --> 00:49:50,310 is not you're wrong. 866 00:49:50,399 --> 00:49:53,579 Okay. I'm wrong. All right, I'm wrong. The whole 867 00:49:53,610 --> 00:49:56,880 thing was in the 30s. When they when they came up with this 868 00:49:56,910 --> 00:50:00,300 registering as a foreign agent that was propaganda. saw to 869 00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:04,410 Washington DC. It wasn't for export guys. Because if you're 870 00:50:04,410 --> 00:50:07,410 exporting to a foreign country, which everybody does Caterpillar 871 00:50:07,410 --> 00:50:11,040 they the the way this indictment went down as it's the same as 872 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,560 if, okay if he has to be if they have to register as foreign 873 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,890 agents for exporting processor to I didn't even by the way 874 00:50:16,890 --> 00:50:19,800 there was no processor chips involved it was it was memory 875 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:25,110 chips and D to A converters. That's all they would do. And by 876 00:50:25,110 --> 00:50:30,450 the way to the tune of $50 million since 2008. Why now? Was 877 00:50:30,450 --> 00:50:37,650 this bus taking place? Now I looked up all the parts to see 878 00:50:37,650 --> 00:50:40,860 what they were exporting. And yes, they were militarized. So 879 00:50:41,610 --> 00:50:44,340 Well, isn't that your answer? Right there them because they 880 00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:49,050 were militarized? Well, we're in a proxy war with Russia. I mean, 881 00:50:49,050 --> 00:50:49,710 yeah, I think we, 882 00:50:50,340 --> 00:50:52,860 because they've been sending they've been shipping parts 883 00:50:52,860 --> 00:50:56,550 since 2008. That they come up out of the blue and bust these 884 00:50:56,550 --> 00:51:00,870 guys. I think it is part of the proxy war. Yes. It's like, Hey, 885 00:51:01,740 --> 00:51:04,500 we got an idea. Hey, yo, because you for one thing, you can take 886 00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:07,530 a look at the bag of parts. And you get it looks to me as though 887 00:51:07,530 --> 00:51:11,400 they were shipping stuff for a testing. Because there were too 888 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,730 many different DNA converters. It's not like how many of these 889 00:51:14,730 --> 00:51:17,880 things do you need? I mean, it wasn't like they have shipping 890 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,330 buckets full of one, one type there was all these different 891 00:51:21,330 --> 00:51:21,660 ones. 892 00:51:21,690 --> 00:51:25,140 And what is the what is the DD Ed's so that's digital to analog 893 00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:27,210 converter, what would that be used for to 894 00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:30,570 use it for like if you have a fin that you have to move on a 895 00:51:30,570 --> 00:51:36,030 missile, you know, the digital information that has to be 896 00:51:36,030 --> 00:51:41,640 turned into gear and move it around? Okay? Again, like that, 897 00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:45,330 that kind of thing. So that you need D Day converters, a lot of 898 00:51:45,330 --> 00:51:48,510 DDA converters, and then they had all the memory chips that 899 00:51:48,510 --> 00:51:51,150 they were ordered, were all militarized. In other words, 900 00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:54,600 they were the hardened type of memory that has work under 901 00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:01,020 extreme conditions. But you know, yeah, the bag of parts 902 00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:03,120 looks pretty sketchy. But there's been doing it since 903 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,390 2008. To the end, they've been doing like a dual big business, 904 00:52:06,420 --> 00:52:09,450 his whole family, a bunch of these people. So I think it's a 905 00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:13,140 I think it's part of the whole thing is I wouldn't be surprised 906 00:52:13,140 --> 00:52:17,490 if they got off eventually. But But meanwhile, they the 907 00:52:17,490 --> 00:52:20,640 indictment wants to confiscate everything. They have all their 908 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,830 bank accounts listed or taken all their money, they have all 909 00:52:22,830 --> 00:52:25,050 their houses and all their offices listed. They're taken 910 00:52:25,050 --> 00:52:28,620 all that, you know, the way they operate. Yeah, of course, they 911 00:52:28,620 --> 00:52:30,000 were taking your stuff. 912 00:52:32,220 --> 00:52:33,630 Oh, gotta love it. 913 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,620 Anyway, there was a report that I have on the clips that came 914 00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:39,840 from where I figured that if I'm gonna get a clip about this, I'm 915 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,060 gonna get the Russia Today clip because that'll be the most 916 00:52:42,060 --> 00:52:46,170 slanted. You can play that and it gives people a background on 917 00:52:46,170 --> 00:52:46,980 what we're talking about. 918 00:52:48,570 --> 00:52:50,910 I don't have one specifically the only one that says Russia 919 00:52:50,910 --> 00:52:54,180 today is Turkey. So you have to notice another clip. It's 920 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,910 something labeled very clearly, I'm sure. 921 00:52:57,810 --> 00:53:01,050 Yeah, let's see. Turkey assault positioning. 922 00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:05,550 New Russian spies. How about that one? Yeah, I would make it 923 00:53:05,580 --> 00:53:08,010 Yeah. Okay. It's so clearly arty. 924 00:53:08,070 --> 00:53:10,380 But what we're seeing is a statement being issued by the 925 00:53:10,380 --> 00:53:12,960 Russian Foreign Ministry regarding the four Russian 926 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,690 citizens currently still in custody who have been charged 927 00:53:15,690 --> 00:53:19,230 with the illegal export of military technology. The foreign 928 00:53:19,230 --> 00:53:21,870 ministry is suggesting that these four Russians are being 929 00:53:21,870 --> 00:53:25,650 put under extreme psychological and moral pressure in order to 930 00:53:25,650 --> 00:53:28,500 get them to sign confessions. The foreign ministry is also 931 00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:31,320 wanting a review of the decision to deny these for Russian 932 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,460 citizens bail. It has taken the media by storm and little bit it 933 00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:37,920 has been all over the media. This is some kind of spy 934 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,770 scandal. This is dismissed by the Foreign Ministry, they say 935 00:53:40,770 --> 00:53:42,750 all you have to do is look at the charges that have been 936 00:53:42,750 --> 00:53:46,200 leveled against these four Russian citizens, their criminal 937 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,710 charges, the families of these Russian citizens have been 938 00:53:49,770 --> 00:53:52,530 expressing concern over the way that they're being treated while 939 00:53:52,530 --> 00:53:54,960 they're in custody has been suggestions that they're being 940 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,170 forced to sleep on the floor, that they're in very crowded 941 00:53:58,170 --> 00:54:00,870 cells. These four Russian citizens were picked up on the 942 00:54:00,870 --> 00:54:04,890 third of October as part of a group of 11 people that the FBI 943 00:54:04,890 --> 00:54:08,370 wanted to speak to in connection with the export of high tech 944 00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:11,760 technology from the United States to Russia. It's believed 945 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,630 that technology has a potential of military use. They were 946 00:54:15,630 --> 00:54:18,240 picked up in Houston and Texas over the next few days. They're 947 00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:21,960 going to be moved to New York where the first hearings on this 948 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,490 case will be heard next week. 949 00:54:23,940 --> 00:54:26,310 Do you think they could make it clear that they were citizens 950 00:54:26,370 --> 00:54:27,690 any more than they already did? 951 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,300 There's that and of course in there did they lift up the 952 00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,060 waterboarding part which may or may not have taken place Yeah. 953 00:54:37,050 --> 00:54:42,090 Yeah. So yeah, no, this is part of whatever scheme whatever this 954 00:54:42,090 --> 00:54:44,610 is getting worse by the minute this this action between the 955 00:54:44,610 --> 00:54:47,880 United States and Russia is coming very is becoming very 956 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,620 clear. How nasty is getting because Russia today has his own 957 00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:57,150 channel now, by the way, no network on on the dish. Yeah. 958 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,960 And it's all really is gone. They crank up the propaganda and 959 00:55:01,260 --> 00:55:03,930 I mean, it's really propagandistic more than much 960 00:55:03,930 --> 00:55:05,190 more than it was a year ago. 961 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,790 But I think in general, you can say that about everything on 962 00:55:08,790 --> 00:55:13,140 cable we have our T is completely pro pro Russia, screw 963 00:55:13,140 --> 00:55:15,300 America, and they and they hammer on all the things we 964 00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:19,560 like, I have to say, you know, NDA, you know, drones, you know, 965 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,800 there's essentially, I mean, we could be we could work for the 966 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,770 Russians in that regard. Yeah, you know, it's what bothers me. 967 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:31,230 Yeah. Then we have MSNBC Obama channel. They are. They're not 968 00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:33,600 they're not even apologizing for it. 969 00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:37,260 No, and if you get that idiot, Ed Schultz, I got it goes crazy. 970 00:55:37,860 --> 00:55:41,130 You know, he just screams and he rants about how evil the 971 00:55:41,130 --> 00:55:43,140 Republicans are. He's a horrible person. 972 00:55:43,170 --> 00:55:48,510 There was something I caught on current, which, and I had to do 973 00:55:48,510 --> 00:55:53,340 a little bit of research and it wasn't all that hard. Who do you 974 00:55:53,340 --> 00:55:58,440 think current is working for? I mean, besides for Al Gore, but 975 00:55:58,770 --> 00:56:00,930 who do you think they're representing? Because they must 976 00:56:00,930 --> 00:56:03,390 represent it they can't just be completely when you hear the 977 00:56:03,390 --> 00:56:03,960 report. 978 00:56:04,049 --> 00:56:07,469 They're not an Obama did they have the some of the old Obama 979 00:56:07,469 --> 00:56:10,949 bought people from MSNBC, so we know that they're on that side 980 00:56:10,949 --> 00:56:14,549 of things, but I would say more Hillary? Well, I'm gonna 981 00:56:14,550 --> 00:56:17,760 say it may be more Obama than you think. Listen to this 982 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,690 report. And then I did a little bit of deconstruction of it. And 983 00:56:21,690 --> 00:56:23,190 we'll see where this is all coming from 984 00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:28,110 so I'm ever warehouse employees at Walmart stores are walking 985 00:56:28,110 --> 00:56:31,230 out and striking. And this is a very big deal, because we've 986 00:56:31,230 --> 00:56:33,690 heard a lot of drama with Walmart, you know, they refuse 987 00:56:33,690 --> 00:56:37,980 to unionize their workers. They refuse to pay them a fair wage 988 00:56:37,980 --> 00:56:42,240 for their hard work. And a lot of employees are now tired, so 989 00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:45,570 tired of it, that they're willing to risk their jobs to 990 00:56:45,570 --> 00:56:47,490 walk out and do this strike. 991 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:48,330 Okay, so 992 00:56:49,860 --> 00:56:56,580 can I say something first? Yeah. Walmart isn't refusing to 993 00:56:56,580 --> 00:56:58,500 unionize their workers. Whew, 994 00:56:58,530 --> 00:57:01,080 yep. That's a good you're catching on? 995 00:57:01,290 --> 00:57:03,930 Why would they throw that in there? Oh, they're refusing to 996 00:57:03,930 --> 00:57:08,880 your union. No, the the workers themselves have to caught create 997 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,570 a situation where they can take a ballot, and then decide to 998 00:57:12,570 --> 00:57:16,470 unionize. And then a bunch of laws fall into place. There's no 999 00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:20,370 company that refuses to unionize their workers or wants to 1000 00:57:20,370 --> 00:57:22,350 unionize their workers unless it's corrupt. 1001 00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:24,630 So that is the first clue. 1002 00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:28,050 So, you know, they're asking for something very simple. For 1003 00:57:28,050 --> 00:57:30,960 instance, there's one employee who's been there. He's striking. 1004 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,990 He's been there for three years. And he's still making a little 1005 00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:38,700 over $8 890 an hour. Okay. And he's working in the produce 1006 00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:39,270 section. 1007 00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:41,460 By the way, that's what I make me do. 1008 00:57:41,850 --> 00:57:45,210 They're not giving these employees what they need to 1009 00:57:45,210 --> 00:57:50,190 survive, despite the fact that they are massively profitable. 1010 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,840 So it's up to you. This is disguised as news. I don't know 1011 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,720 who this woman is. But now chunk is going to come in and chunk us 1012 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,290 some facts of the city strike for the first time in Walmart's 1013 00:58:01,290 --> 00:58:05,760 history in the last 50 years. And one of the original strikes 1014 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,480 that began this was in a place for subcontractors as they were 1015 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:15,060 doing business. The factory got to be 120 degrees. So the two 1016 00:58:15,060 --> 00:58:17,700 things they were asking for, they weren't asking for like 1017 00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:21,150 great benefits or even increased salaries. They want to ceiling 1018 00:58:21,150 --> 00:58:25,320 fans because it was 120 degrees in there. And they wanted shin 1019 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,870 guards, because those heavy carts they were pushing around, 1020 00:58:27,870 --> 00:58:30,420 kept running into their shins, and they were getting hurt. 1021 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:36,270 Okay, so let's just revisit what we've heard here. Walmart evil, 1022 00:58:36,450 --> 00:58:39,780 evil, evil, evil warmer, they won't let their their workers 1023 00:58:39,780 --> 00:58:43,740 unionize. All they wanted were some ceiling fans and some shin 1024 00:58:43,740 --> 00:58:49,230 guards. So I start to I start to research who is organizing this 1025 00:58:49,260 --> 00:58:56,040 strike. This is an outfit called OUR Walmart. If you go to four 1026 00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:03,750 respects.org John, f o r, r e s, p e, c t, fo r r e s p e c t, 1027 00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:10,110 for respect not org. Our Walmart organization United for Respect 1028 00:59:10,110 --> 00:59:14,520 at Walmart about us OUR Walmart vision, we envision a future in 1029 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,400 which our company treats us the associates of Walmart with 1030 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,940 respect and dignity. We envision a world where we succeed in our 1031 00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:24,300 careers our company succeeds in business, our customers receive 1032 00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:28,410 great service and value blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I'm 1033 00:59:28,410 --> 00:59:33,390 looking at who is this organization and all it says is 1034 00:59:33,390 --> 00:59:35,910 organization united for respected Walmart independent 1035 00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:39,360 not for profit organization for hourly associates are 1036 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,420 organizations not affiliated with Walmart stores and etc, 1037 00:59:42,420 --> 00:59:46,560 etc. So I do a little who is on them, which by the way, a chunk 1038 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,920 could have done with his TV station there. That woman kind 1039 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,010 of Yeah, he's got he's got he's got cameras and people running 1040 00:59:53,010 --> 00:59:56,700 around. Yeah, let's see staff. He's got staff. It is the 1041 00:59:56,700 --> 01:00:00,270 organization united for Spectre, Walmart. They are located hated 1042 01:00:00,270 --> 01:00:03,480 at I mean for just a bunch of people just like, you know, 1043 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,570 we're workers where we're you know, evil Walmart we're gonna 1044 01:00:06,570 --> 01:00:09,870 strike it's a multistage strike by the way. It's funny they have 1045 01:00:09,870 --> 01:00:14,100 an office at 17 75k Street Northwest in the District of 1046 01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:18,210 Columbia. That would be the lobbyist Street. And it this is 1047 01:00:18,210 --> 01:00:24,060 registered this domain name this fall respect.org by certain W 1048 01:00:24,060 --> 01:00:31,830 O'Neill at ufcw.org. Oh my, what is the UFC W John? 1049 01:00:34,050 --> 01:00:35,790 I don't know offhand United Food 1050 01:00:35,790 --> 01:00:41,400 and Commercial Workers International Union. Hello. Some 1051 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,630 union is the union people. Your course. Yeah, but they're 1052 01:00:45,630 --> 01:00:48,840 pretending these these people I'm currently paying be 1053 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,470 grassroots. 1054 01:00:49,890 --> 01:00:50,760 Exactly. 1055 01:00:51,150 --> 01:00:52,020 It's a hijack. 1056 01:00:52,650 --> 01:00:55,650 Well, no, it's it's a good so what do you call it? astroturf? 1057 01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,020 astroturfing. Okay. So who is currently V working for it? They 1058 01:01:01,020 --> 01:01:05,730 can't be completely stupid. I mean, this is so silly. Instead 1059 01:01:05,730 --> 01:01:08,700 of the report should be well, it looks like Walmart is trying to 1060 01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:11,310 unionize. And here's who's helping them with it through 1061 01:01:11,310 --> 01:01:15,240 this front organization called for respect.org are Walmart. 1062 01:01:15,630 --> 01:01:18,570 This is not a not a tough story to bring. And I think it's 1063 01:01:18,570 --> 01:01:22,380 actually quite exciting to see you know, this is we know that 1064 01:01:22,380 --> 01:01:23,220 Walmart that's 1065 01:01:23,250 --> 01:01:25,980 actually more interesting than the story that they're telling. 1066 01:01:25,980 --> 01:01:29,310 Yes, thank you. Because you know, these union guys are 1067 01:01:29,310 --> 01:01:32,070 trying Yeah, at this because if they could unionize a few 1068 01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:35,700 Walmart's these guys, the US whatever they are. They're CWM? 1069 01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:39,300 Yeah, they would have them it is a bonanza and union dues. 1070 01:01:39,509 --> 01:01:41,309 Thank you. And where does that go to? 1071 01:01:41,819 --> 01:01:44,669 It goes right to them paying for that expensive office at 1072 01:01:44,669 --> 01:01:49,109 775170 5k? Street? Yeah. But we also know that I'm looking at it 1073 01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:53,249 now. And we'll go down right down on the street and look at 1074 01:01:53,249 --> 01:01:56,369 it. Can you go into they have an insight on the Google's not yet, 1075 01:01:56,429 --> 01:02:00,359 but they haven't, but they are building them up? I think it's 1076 01:02:00,359 --> 01:02:02,759 one of those you go inside there has a guy with a big hand said 1077 01:02:02,759 --> 01:02:05,579 you can't go any further. Right. But of 1078 01:02:05,580 --> 01:02:09,990 course Obama is is backed by the union. So this is why I think 1079 01:02:10,980 --> 01:02:14,700 Current TV is still somehow shilling for Obama. 1080 01:02:17,730 --> 01:02:21,390 Well, I know chant chunk is a big Obama bot. So that's 1081 01:02:24,030 --> 01:02:27,450 what is his real name? I don't know as 1082 01:02:28,050 --> 01:02:31,860 I don't know, it's really been as a chunk. Chunk group. Oh, 1083 01:02:31,860 --> 01:02:32,880 Jake jogar 1084 01:02:32,910 --> 01:02:38,280 chunk is easier. I hear it here's looking at our elites of 1085 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,780 the world. This was very, very funny. So we arrested one 1086 01:02:42,780 --> 01:02:46,890 banker, I think, and not even really for screwing the world 1087 01:02:46,890 --> 01:02:51,720 economy. But this was the the Indian guy, the Gupta guy who 1088 01:02:51,870 --> 01:02:53,730 got nailed for insider trading. 1089 01:02:54,060 --> 01:02:57,480 Oh, yeah, he got Yeah, I think he was a fall guy. But anyway, 1090 01:02:57,570 --> 01:03:01,800 well, now the elites are coming out and because you know, of 1091 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:07,620 course, he's gonna get sentenced because he got nailed for for 1092 01:03:07,620 --> 01:03:13,020 insider trading. Here's a quote from Kofi Annan. Kofi Annan is 1093 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,750 the guy who fights for justice, who actually gave up but he was 1094 01:03:15,750 --> 01:03:19,380 fighting for justice in Syria, that Kofi Annan says to the 1095 01:03:19,380 --> 01:03:23,340 judge, I urge you to recognize Raj opt for the good that he has 1096 01:03:23,340 --> 01:03:25,770 done in this world to give him the credit that he deserves for 1097 01:03:25,770 --> 01:03:29,400 helping others and to take into account his effort to improve 1098 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:35,520 the lives of millions of people. Okay, what yeah, that's Kofi 1099 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:40,290 Annan, but who's next Bill Gates checks in. I wanted to add my 1100 01:03:40,290 --> 01:03:43,560 voice to those of other friends and colleagues of Rajat Gupta 1101 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:48,780 who are writing to you in order to round out rajas profile. He 1102 01:03:48,780 --> 01:03:53,940 says he's, you know, he was he's on the board of the Bill and 1103 01:03:53,940 --> 01:03:56,850 Melinda Gates Foundation. So Bill Gates is in there shilling 1104 01:03:56,850 --> 01:04:00,810 for him. We as a society need more visionaries like Rajat 1105 01:04:00,810 --> 01:04:04,830 Gupta Rajat Gupta is no threat to anyone inside or outside the 1106 01:04:04,830 --> 01:04:05,880 prison fence. 1107 01:04:06,509 --> 01:04:09,179 Snowden neither is any other insider trader. 1108 01:04:10,710 --> 01:04:13,590 And you know what, it might just work these elite eight holes 1109 01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:16,980 they all stick up for each other. Yeah, you should pretty 1110 01:04:16,980 --> 01:04:19,470 wild. You should denounce your Windows machine. You should 1111 01:04:19,470 --> 01:04:21,030 throw it out the window right now. 1112 01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:26,550 So drmeister They go get these people coming out of the 1113 01:04:26,550 --> 01:04:29,850 woodwork reminds me that that the Kennebunkport hooker 1114 01:04:33,660 --> 01:04:34,650 Am I missing a clip? 1115 01:04:35,490 --> 01:04:38,880 No. Yeah, I don't have. I have a story though. Right. I 1116 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,100 have the link in the show notes. I didn't look at it because I 1117 01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:43,920 figured it would use it. You rarely send me a link as I just 1118 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,080 put it in there. I didn't look at it. Tell me the story. 1119 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:52,800 Well, there's a hooker who ran a I guess she was a personal 1120 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,740 trainer or or she ran a yoga studio or something and 1121 01:04:55,740 --> 01:04:59,970 Kennebunkport busted her candy bar prostitution 1122 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,730 Isn't that where the where the Kennedys had the compound? 1123 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:07,350 That's Oh, this may be Kennebunk. Oh, it's not 1124 01:05:07,350 --> 01:05:10,440 Kennebunkport, it's Kennebunk is right next door to the other 1125 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,500 side of the tracks where the hookers are. And I guess she was 1126 01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:13,860 screwing 1127 01:05:14,310 --> 01:05:16,110 the other side of the bridge. Is that possible? 1128 01:05:16,529 --> 01:05:22,679 Yes. I'm glad you thought that was funny. Anyway, she was I 1129 01:05:22,679 --> 01:05:25,859 guess and she she apparently had the bad habit of filming 1130 01:05:25,859 --> 01:05:29,489 everything. Oh, so she has all these tapes hate it when my 1131 01:05:29,489 --> 01:05:33,809 hookers do that and all the all these guys and this thing goes 1132 01:05:33,809 --> 01:05:36,329 on. I thought I had it. Oh, actually, I know I remember 1133 01:05:36,329 --> 01:05:39,569 where the clip went. I don't have it on my list here. But 1134 01:05:39,749 --> 01:05:42,569 they get there's a report I had it was I took it from the 1135 01:05:42,569 --> 01:05:46,859 YouTube anyway, the they're making a big stink about this 1136 01:05:46,859 --> 01:05:49,709 because he got she barely has a black book with all this stuff 1137 01:05:49,739 --> 01:05:52,829 in people's names. But I'm watching this report and they're 1138 01:05:52,829 --> 01:05:54,989 going on and on and on and on and on and on. And then they 1139 01:05:54,989 --> 01:05:58,439 said yeah, she's being you know, she's indicted. It's a 1140 01:05:58,439 --> 01:06:03,239 misdemeanor in the town. So this is like nationwide breaking news 1141 01:06:03,239 --> 01:06:06,629 and it's a crappy misdemeanor yet, 1142 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,470 but this is not a good idea to have Black Books and videotapes 1143 01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:12,990 and tell people about it. This is usually how you wind up 1144 01:06:13,020 --> 01:06:18,420 Suicide is not a good plan. She was an idiot but not a good plan 1145 01:06:18,420 --> 01:06:19,170 at all as is 1146 01:06:19,470 --> 01:06:22,290 but I'm reminded that what why are these guys coming out of the 1147 01:06:22,290 --> 01:06:26,580 woodwork to defend Gupta you know when they should probably 1148 01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:28,980 stay you know staying away from it because it sounds to me as 1149 01:06:28,980 --> 01:06:31,350 though they've got something to deal with insider trading. 1150 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:38,250 Oh, right. Oh, they're worried that he might blow the whistle 1151 01:06:38,250 --> 01:06:42,120 on them. So they're like yeah, my buddy Gupta Come on, man go 1152 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:42,930 easy on 1153 01:06:43,830 --> 01:06:47,520 Russia because once they flip a guy like let's face it, he's not 1154 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,510 the only guy doing illegal trades. So you're right and he 1155 01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:54,960 must know everybody and their sister and so now these guys are 1156 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,000 getting on his good side it seems to me that's the only 1157 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,130 reason that's what the hooker This is just what happens with 1158 01:06:59,130 --> 01:07:02,340 the hooker you know, the judge lets her off. Why? 1159 01:07:02,460 --> 01:07:06,330 Oh, well gee, Judge lift up them robes. Let's see if we can get a 1160 01:07:06,330 --> 01:07:06,960 match. 1161 01:07:07,860 --> 01:07:09,600 Wow. So anyway, okay. 1162 01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:13,140 Well, Rashad is is cruising for freedom and the hooker has 1163 01:07:13,140 --> 01:07:16,920 proven cruisin for an unfortunate lead poisoning at 1164 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:17,790 high velocity. 1165 01:07:19,170 --> 01:07:23,400 She is wow. I wish she barely taped all of her encounters. 1166 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:28,020 That is so not smart. Yeah, they have the tape so now it's 1167 01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:30,930 evidence against her the whole thing's a disaster. Wow. 1168 01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:39,840 Well, maybe now would be time for me to to sit down and well, 1169 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,900 actually, I'd like I'd like to continue our celebration, John. 1170 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,470 Our silly our celebration of National Cybersecurity Awareness 1171 01:07:49,470 --> 01:07:53,250 Month. Oh, that's right. It does not stop it started the 1172 01:07:53,250 --> 01:07:54,240 beginning of October. I 1173 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,070 took part today took part today. Oh, yeah. What 1174 01:07:56,070 --> 01:07:58,650 did you do to celebrate National sign? rated a 1175 01:07:58,650 --> 01:08:03,930 vast? A vast? Yeah, it's one of the one of the is the current 1176 01:08:04,590 --> 01:08:12,270 anti virus free free. Oh, being your Avast needs to be up to 1177 01:08:12,270 --> 01:08:13,290 date in right. Yes. 1178 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,260 No. So you're guaranteed they can spy on you. No, that's good. 1179 01:08:16,290 --> 01:08:18,930 Good. Good. Yeah. Always make sure there's a backdoor. Well, 1180 01:08:18,930 --> 01:08:19,410 every 1181 01:08:19,410 --> 01:08:23,430 everybody is celebrating along with us. So CNN, Iranian hackers 1182 01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:27,210 have launched a cyber war on us targets. According to The Wall 1183 01:08:27,210 --> 01:08:30,870 Street Journal, which sides top US officials. They say there's 1184 01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:34,350 been a string of hacking attacks on American banks and on oil and 1185 01:08:34,350 --> 01:08:37,740 energy companies in the Persian Gulf and Middle East. Defense 1186 01:08:37,740 --> 01:08:40,770 Secretary Leon Panetta is sounding the alarm. Yes. And of 1187 01:08:40,770 --> 01:08:44,250 course, so CNN and the Wall Street Journal, we cannot leave 1188 01:08:44,250 --> 01:08:49,020 out MSN or CNBC. also celebrating Cybersecurity 1189 01:08:49,020 --> 01:08:52,500 Awareness Month. Wells Fargo, America's fourth largest bank 1190 01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:55,890 has been hit with a cyber attack. Bank says no major 1191 01:08:55,890 --> 01:08:59,040 damage was done to their accounts. US officials are now 1192 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,880 saying he ran and others are now repairing a cyber attack on the 1193 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:07,530 US. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE LEON PANETTA suggested a Pearl Harbor 1194 01:09:07,530 --> 01:09:13,350 type threat. And he laid out his worst case scenarios. So I I 1195 01:09:13,350 --> 01:09:18,360 pulled a number of clips from this speech that Leon Panetta 1196 01:09:18,750 --> 01:09:25,320 gave in New York on the on the intrepid before the business 1197 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:30,090 enterprise organization. And I think we some of them are a 1198 01:09:30,090 --> 01:09:33,030 couple minutes. Would you like to go through these because his 1199 01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:35,520 whole speech was 40 minutes in total. I've been able to boil it 1200 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,010 down. But I think what he was saying is so incredibly 1201 01:09:38,010 --> 01:09:42,330 important, so that we understand just how screwed we are as a 1202 01:09:42,330 --> 01:09:45,510 freedom fighters on the internet. You and I are going to 1203 01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:47,910 be off the air very, very soon. 1204 01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:50,610 I wouldn't be surprised. 1205 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:55,380 The first thing that I found very interesting was Panetta is 1206 01:09:55,380 --> 01:09:59,160 connection to 911, which I didn't even know there was one 1207 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,000 strong Nash 1208 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,110 Your defense is all about. And you understand that a strong 1209 01:10:04,110 --> 01:10:08,340 national defense and a strong economy go hand in hand. 1210 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,870 You see, is that the one I was looking for? I think so. 1211 01:10:13,620 --> 01:10:19,710 With that in mind, tonight, I'd like to discuss with you have an 1212 01:10:19,710 --> 01:10:21,150 issue, and I'm sorry. 1213 01:10:22,740 --> 01:10:25,080 Well, we'll just listen to this one, I have no idea where that 1214 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:25,530 clip point 1215 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:31,740 that I think, is at the very nexus of business, and national 1216 01:10:31,740 --> 01:10:38,610 security, the threats facing the United States, in cyberspace, 1217 01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:43,920 and the role that the defense department must play in 1218 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:49,320 defending this country from those kinds of threats. We're on 1219 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:55,140 an aircraft carrier, a famous and great aircraft carrier. And 1220 01:10:55,140 --> 01:10:59,880 it's a fitting and appropriate venue to have this discussion, 1221 01:11:01,140 --> 01:11:06,570 this ship and the technology that's on display at this 1222 01:11:06,570 --> 01:11:11,790 museum, a test to one of the central achievements of the 1223 01:11:11,790 --> 01:11:14,730 United States in the 20th century. 1224 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,130 You know, what's so horrible about this guy when he talks he 1225 01:11:17,130 --> 01:11:19,560 takes so long to get the words out. 1226 01:11:19,650 --> 01:11:22,860 Now when you use a density, you can crank it up and you can you 1227 01:11:22,860 --> 01:11:23,820 can speed him up. 1228 01:11:25,230 --> 01:11:30,000 It's it's it's annoying, but therefore, it was easy to edit. 1229 01:11:30,209 --> 01:11:33,179 Well, so far, you didn't edit that part out and it's pretty 1230 01:11:33,179 --> 01:11:33,509 dull. 1231 01:11:33,540 --> 01:11:36,690 Yeah, well, then let's go to exciting bit. 1232 01:11:37,710 --> 01:11:42,780 But even more alarming is an attack that happened two months 1233 01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:48,540 ago, when a very sophisticated virus called Shamoun 1234 01:11:48,630 --> 01:11:51,390 Shamoun. Have we heard of the Shimon virus John? 1235 01:11:52,860 --> 01:11:54,180 Doesn't ring a bell 1236 01:11:54,210 --> 01:11:58,230 did your vast update for the Shimbun virus? My friend? Ah, I 1237 01:11:58,230 --> 01:12:01,110 don't think so. Listen to what this virus can do. It can 1238 01:12:01,110 --> 01:12:02,430 destroy you 1239 01:12:02,969 --> 01:12:08,339 infected computers in the Saudi Arabian state oil company, 1240 01:12:08,369 --> 01:12:16,049 Aramco. Shamoun, included a routine called a wiper, 1241 01:12:16,740 --> 01:12:18,540 wiper, a wiper, 1242 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,500 not a folder, not a scrunch here but a wiper, 1243 01:12:23,550 --> 01:12:31,290 coated to self execute. This routine replaced crucial systems 1244 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,550 files with an image of a burning US flag. 1245 01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:42,780 Okay, let me just get this straight. So it plays JPEGs on 1246 01:12:42,780 --> 01:12:48,060 your instead of your registry or something. I mean, I don't know. 1247 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,880 Let's listen some more because I need to spell this virus 1248 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,340 Shamoun. You can look it up in the book of knowledge. It is 1249 01:12:53,340 --> 01:13:02,700 exactly his description, s h a m o n, which is HASSHAMO N. Now 1250 01:13:02,700 --> 01:13:06,330 listen, when I listen to when you read the Wikipedia, you'll 1251 01:13:06,330 --> 01:13:08,310 hear exactly his description. 1252 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:15,360 But it also put additional garbage data, garbage data that 1253 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:19,680 overrode all the real data on the machine. 1254 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,250 This guy should be teaching it 1255 01:13:24,030 --> 01:13:30,660 more than 30,000 computers that it infected were rendered 1256 01:13:30,750 --> 01:13:37,530 useless and had to be replaced. Now. That's way Oh crap. Bull 1257 01:13:37,530 --> 01:13:42,930 crap. Oh, crap. What? 1258 01:13:42,990 --> 01:13:45,690 Yeah, no, no, wait, wait, no, remember who he's talking to. 1259 01:13:45,690 --> 01:13:48,540 He's talking to business enterprise executives. So of 1260 01:13:48,540 --> 01:13:53,940 course, first you say oh, my god blew up 30,000 computers. 1261 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:59,070 It virtually destroyed 30,000 computers, 1262 01:14:00,300 --> 01:14:02,490 destroying 30,000 computers. 1263 01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:07,590 Then just days after this incident, there was a similar 1264 01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:14,070 attack on Ross gas of Qatar, a major energy company in the 1265 01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:20,520 region. All told. The shamoon virus was probably the most 1266 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:25,140 destructive attack that the private sector has seen today. 1267 01:14:25,380 --> 01:14:26,040 Okay. 1268 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:27,180 Really? 1269 01:14:27,210 --> 01:14:28,920 What No, no, wait for the scary bit 1270 01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:34,470 agenda, the impact and attack like that would have on your 1271 01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:37,500 company. You aihole 1272 01:14:39,090 --> 01:14:43,350 First you lie about how the computers were trashed. And then 1273 01:14:43,380 --> 01:14:50,310 imagine if that if that happened to your company. Imagine if that 1274 01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:54,270 happened. So this goes on and on and on. And you can see in the 1275 01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:58,350 in the Wikipedia it is literally the same example of the 30,000. 1276 01:14:58,620 --> 01:15:03,210 It's a relatively new art Article, so whatever Shamu virus 1277 01:15:03,210 --> 01:15:06,990 Okay, fine. So what do we need? What do we need for all this? We 1278 01:15:06,990 --> 01:15:07,890 need new rules. 1279 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,940 Hold on a second. Let me do it. Let me tell you the I'm looking 1280 01:15:11,940 --> 01:15:14,340 at the great thing about Wikipedia nowadays is you can 1281 01:15:14,340 --> 01:15:15,900 look at the history of the article. 1282 01:15:16,050 --> 01:15:21,360 And AT and T is the most recent editor. Someone at the AT and T. 1283 01:15:22,410 --> 01:15:27,960 Things started showing up in August 19. Of this year. With 1284 01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:33,180 this is redundant, just two people knew most. And Thor wall 1285 01:15:33,180 --> 01:15:34,650 they're discussing water. Yeah, 1286 01:15:34,710 --> 01:15:40,830 yeah. The shields obviously this, of course, is bullcrap. So 1287 01:15:40,830 --> 01:15:43,740 what do we need? John? What do we need to take action? What do 1288 01:15:43,740 --> 01:15:46,260 we need? What do we need? What do we know? But 1289 01:15:46,260 --> 01:15:49,170 we need 30,000 machines all we need 1290 01:15:49,170 --> 01:15:50,400 new rules. 1291 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,600 Responding to the cyber threat cyber threat requires the right 1292 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,950 policies and organizations across the federal government. 1293 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,540 For the past year, the Department of Defense has been 1294 01:16:03,540 --> 01:16:08,820 working very closely with other agencies to understand where are 1295 01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:13,170 the lines of responsibility? When it comes to cyber defense? 1296 01:16:14,130 --> 01:16:17,640 Where do we draw those lines? And how do those 1297 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:23,040 responsibilities get executed? As part of that effort, the 1298 01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:27,630 department is now finalizing the most comprehensive change to our 1299 01:16:27,630 --> 01:16:32,040 rules of engagement in cyberspace in seven years, 1300 01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:36,240 okay, so we don't know what the rules are yet. But this is 1301 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,030 what's happening. We're changing the rules, the most significant 1302 01:16:39,030 --> 01:16:44,070 change in seven years. We're in the process. No worries, we're 1303 01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:45,960 getting there. Now. Of course, 1304 01:16:46,769 --> 01:16:51,449 the Department of Defense also has a role. Uh huh. It is a 1305 01:16:51,449 --> 01:16:56,189 supporting role. Okay. But it is an essential role. And tonight, 1306 01:16:56,189 --> 01:16:59,999 I want to explain what that means. Thank you. But first, let 1307 01:16:59,999 --> 01:17:04,889 me make clear what it does not mean, okay. It does not mean 1308 01:17:04,889 --> 01:17:06,869 that Department of Defense. 1309 01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:10,740 Do you notice that he stumbles every single time he's trying to 1310 01:17:10,740 --> 01:17:13,470 say Department of Defense? He says department of depends. 1311 01:17:15,630 --> 01:17:17,790 Yeah, he seems to have trouble saying defense 1312 01:17:17,820 --> 01:17:21,720 clear what it does not mean department. He's always saying 1313 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:22,410 department. 1314 01:17:23,730 --> 01:17:28,410 It does not mean that Department of Defense will monitor 1315 01:17:28,410 --> 01:17:31,500 citizens, personal personal computers. 1316 01:17:31,530 --> 01:17:35,940 Oh, no, of course not. A citizen. No, not at all. Hey, 1317 01:17:35,940 --> 01:17:38,880 citizen. We won't monitor your personal email. 1318 01:17:39,809 --> 01:17:43,499 We're not interested in personal communication. Oh, no, of course 1319 01:17:43,499 --> 01:17:47,489 not. Or in emails, no. Or in providing the day to day 1320 01:17:47,489 --> 01:17:51,479 security of private and commercial networks like vas, 1321 01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:55,679 that is not our goal. That is not our job. That is not our 1322 01:17:55,679 --> 01:17:57,539 mission. Oh, gudi 1323 01:17:57,690 --> 01:17:58,710 are Miss job is 1324 01:17:58,710 --> 01:18:02,250 it? Well, it will. The mission is of course 1325 01:18:02,250 --> 01:18:05,370 he says it he says it assumes they do wait. You have to assume 1326 01:18:05,370 --> 01:18:07,830 the way set made that phrase, it's somebody's job. It's not 1327 01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:10,740 his though. Well, that's what his job is to monitor our email, 1328 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,430 the commercial companies, that's what he's leading up to. He's 1329 01:18:14,430 --> 01:18:17,700 leading up to saying it is your job to do that 1330 01:18:18,150 --> 01:18:24,030 is to defend the nation, defend the nation, we defend, we deter 1331 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:29,760 and if called upon, we take decisive action to protect our 1332 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:34,860 citizens. In the past we have done so through operations on 1333 01:18:34,860 --> 01:18:40,440 land and at sea, in the skies and in space. And now in this 1334 01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:45,720 century, the United States military must help defend the 1335 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:51,930 nation in cyberspace as well. Yeah, if a foreign adversary 1336 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:58,740 attack us soil, the American people have every right to 1337 01:18:58,740 --> 01:19:03,120 expect their national defense forces to respond 1338 01:19:03,330 --> 01:19:05,790 to it's kind of interesting that we're being we're under attack 1339 01:19:05,790 --> 01:19:10,440 right now because I heard it on CNN and CNBC. So we are under 1340 01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:14,790 attack. So at any moment, Leon Panetta will dawn his Tron cyber 1341 01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:18,330 suit and and come to our rescue, how can you help companies 1342 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:24,270 ultimately, no one has a greater interest in cybersecurity, than 1343 01:19:24,270 --> 01:19:29,790 the businesses that depend on a safe, secure and resilient 1344 01:19:29,970 --> 01:19:34,530 global digital infrastructure, particularly those who operate 1345 01:19:34,830 --> 01:19:39,960 the critical networks that we must help defend. To defend 1346 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:44,970 those networks more effectively. We must share information 1347 01:19:45,570 --> 01:19:49,500 between the government and the private sector, about threats in 1348 01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:54,720 cyberspace. We've made real progress in sharing information 1349 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,070 with the private sector that 1350 01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:59,130 just go look on Second Street in San Francisco or just look up 1351 01:19:59,130 --> 01:20:03,390 Echelon or, or their wiretapping without warrants, we've made 1352 01:20:03,390 --> 01:20:05,160 some real progress. 1353 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:10,440 But very frankly, we need Congress to act to ensure that 1354 01:20:10,440 --> 01:20:15,900 this sharing is timely and comprehensive. company should be 1355 01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:19,800 able to share specific threat information with the government, 1356 01:20:20,340 --> 01:20:24,300 without the prospect of lawsuits hanging over their head, oh, 1357 01:20:24,300 --> 01:20:29,310 here we go. There it is. And the key principle must be to protect 1358 01:20:29,310 --> 01:20:34,080 the fundamental liberties and privacy in cyberspace that we 1359 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,060 are all duty bound to uphold 1360 01:20:36,090 --> 01:20:37,740 What could possibly go wrong? 1361 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:44,100 Fact is that to fully provide the necessary protection in our 1362 01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:49,050 democracy, cybersecurity legislation must be passed by 1363 01:20:49,050 --> 01:20:54,960 the Congress. Without it, we are, and we will be vulnerable. 1364 01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:57,810 And then of course, we've got to wrap the whole thing up by 1365 01:20:57,810 --> 01:21:00,930 really putting this the fear of God into you while you're on an 1366 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,120 aircraft carrier in New York. 1367 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:12,900 before September 11 2001. The warning signs were there. We 1368 01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:19,590 weren't organized. We weren't ready. And we suffered terribly. 1369 01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:26,760 For that lack of attention. We cannot let that happen again. 1370 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:32,070 This is pre 911 moment. 1371 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:40,020 Let's clap for that. Pre 911. Wadley pre 911 1372 01:21:40,050 --> 01:21:44,970 PD attackers are plotting. Our systems will never be 1373 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:50,370 impenetrable. Just like our physical defenses are not 1374 01:21:50,370 --> 01:21:56,400 perfect. But more can be done to improve them. We need Congress 1375 01:21:57,030 --> 01:22:02,730 and we need all of you to help in that effort. I want you to 1376 01:22:02,730 --> 01:22:06,450 know that Department of Defense is doing our part. 1377 01:22:07,019 --> 01:22:12,629 Yeah. Right. So there you go pre 911 This is a Pearl Harbor event 1378 01:22:12,629 --> 01:22:14,129 Pearl spelled P E R 1379 01:22:14,130 --> 01:22:19,020 L. So you should read my column cyber war. Bring It On October 1380 01:22:19,020 --> 01:22:22,980 12. PC Magazine people out there right where I discussed this 1381 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:27,420 exact topic. Yeah. And I'd have a couple of good lines in here. 1382 01:22:27,900 --> 01:22:32,310 One is now according to the government officials, we have 1383 01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:35,700 again, a threat looming over our heads. This time. It's a form of 1384 01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:39,390 cyber terrorism. Nevermind that the terrorists who we managed to 1385 01:22:39,390 --> 01:22:43,650 identify tend to be living in mud huts in Waziristan where 1386 01:22:43,650 --> 01:22:46,710 they enjoy blasting them left and right with drone strikes. As 1387 01:22:46,710 --> 01:22:49,710 far as I know, these folks and their dirt roads do not sit on 1388 01:22:49,710 --> 01:22:54,810 any OSI 768 fiber network. Even if they have a phone line, it 1389 01:22:54,810 --> 01:22:57,390 would be a miracle exactly how they can manage to get the 1390 01:22:57,390 --> 01:23:01,710 skills necessary to develop complex cyber attacks is beyond 1391 01:23:01,710 --> 01:23:02,250 me. 1392 01:23:03,180 --> 01:23:05,910 You did you you should have added in there, didn't our 1393 01:23:05,910 --> 01:23:10,650 government just tell us that Iran was was disconnecting the 1394 01:23:10,650 --> 01:23:12,540 entire country from the web that 1395 01:23:12,540 --> 01:23:14,010 in the column? Oh, good, good. I 1396 01:23:14,010 --> 01:23:16,380 mean, you can't have it both ways. There is 1397 01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:19,890 Iran or Iran who by the way, in the in the debates, it's 1398 01:23:19,890 --> 01:23:25,740 interesting that that Ryan pronounce it Iran correctly, the 1399 01:23:25,740 --> 01:23:29,160 host pronounce it Iran correctly. And Biden pronounce 1400 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:29,940 it Iran. 1401 01:23:29,970 --> 01:23:33,510 He's not in the loop. He's not in the loop. But here's here's 1402 01:23:33,540 --> 01:23:36,540 here's where I was leading up to this is some legislation unless 1403 01:23:36,540 --> 01:23:38,910 you want to read more from your column, which I always enjoyed, 1404 01:23:38,940 --> 01:23:42,120 but people should go get this column and they get a point here 1405 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:43,110 I brought I brought out 1406 01:23:43,950 --> 01:23:46,590 there a free decoder ring. If you read the column, this is 1407 01:23:46,590 --> 01:23:47,100 something 1408 01:23:47,730 --> 01:23:51,360 they learned something. So I have the latest 1409 01:23:52,230 --> 01:23:56,100 draft document of clean it the clean it which is now 1410 01:23:56,100 --> 01:24:00,630 circulating through the European Union. This is that now we've we 1411 01:24:00,630 --> 01:24:06,030 read this legislation earlier, the August Legia briefing. And I 1412 01:24:06,030 --> 01:24:09,690 have now come into possession of the most recent update, it is 1413 01:24:09,690 --> 01:24:13,230 the clean it project. This is from the European Union. There's 1414 01:24:13,230 --> 01:24:16,560 a link in the show notes at 452 dot n a shownotes.com. You can 1415 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,070 see the entire clean it site this of course this document is 1416 01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:24,180 not listed there. Because it is confidential, not for 1417 01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:27,750 publication limited distribution. This document or 1418 01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:30,570 the recipient may share this document only with others within 1419 01:24:30,570 --> 01:24:33,990 their organization on a need to know basis. Now the fact that I 1420 01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:37,830 am in possession of this probably means that it's being 1421 01:24:37,830 --> 01:24:41,550 floated to see what the response will be. And they purposely 1422 01:24:41,550 --> 01:24:45,240 leaked. Yes, it is being leaked. I would like to read you some of 1423 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,120 the recommendations that will be a part of the legislation of the 1424 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:52,890 European Union as it pertains to terrorism, illegal activities 1425 01:24:52,920 --> 01:25:00,690 and the internet. Are you ready? No. Okay, so The leading the 1426 01:25:00,690 --> 01:25:04,170 European Commission will be approached to consider finding a 1427 01:25:04,170 --> 01:25:07,140 European organization that will adopt the results of the clean 1428 01:25:07,140 --> 01:25:11,070 it continuous activities and hosts the new European public 1429 01:25:11,070 --> 01:25:15,120 private dialogue and cooperation format to reduce terrorists use 1430 01:25:15,150 --> 01:25:18,300 of the internet. So what they're doing here is they're pitching 1431 01:25:18,300 --> 01:25:21,990 for regulation, and of course, another government body that 1432 01:25:21,990 --> 01:25:25,470 will regulate your internet freedoms. And in Europe, it is 1433 01:25:25,470 --> 01:25:28,320 the European Commission who does this, they have all the power, 1434 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,680 these are the non elected elites who run the show. So let's just 1435 01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,660 run through a couple of things of what this will Oh, by the 1436 01:25:33,660 --> 01:25:36,570 way, governments that commit to this document will start the 1437 01:25:36,570 --> 01:25:40,620 National Clean it cooperation format within half a year. So 1438 01:25:40,620 --> 01:25:44,070 this is six months from now, John, we could be off air within 1439 01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:47,370 six months. And I'll tell you why. Listen to what's going on 1440 01:25:47,370 --> 01:25:50,850 here. Under the legal framework, internet companies must be 1441 01:25:50,850 --> 01:25:55,650 obliged by law to provide le A's that's law enforcement agencies, 1442 01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:57,750 but I'll just call them le A's from now on because they use it 1443 01:25:57,750 --> 01:26:00,930 throughout the entire document. With all necessary customer 1444 01:26:00,930 --> 01:26:03,750 information for investigations of terrorists use of the 1445 01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:08,250 internet, it must be legal for police officers to patrol on 1446 01:26:08,250 --> 01:26:12,510 social media. This includes having a profile, joining user 1447 01:26:12,510 --> 01:26:15,870 groups sending and receiving messages on the platform. So 1448 01:26:15,870 --> 01:26:17,820 we're gonna have cops on the social. 1449 01:26:18,330 --> 01:26:21,930 This is a cop job. I wouldn't mind having Well, standby 1450 01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:26,790 because I'm gonna be on patrol today. I'll be on Twitter. I 1451 01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:31,800 need a break. I gotta take a break from Twitter. I'm gonna go 1452 01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:35,340 ask you guys at lunch. I'm gonna be out. Yeah, this afternoon. 1453 01:26:35,340 --> 01:26:37,890 I'm going to be patrolling Facebook, if you know what I 1454 01:26:37,890 --> 01:26:40,770 mean. And then I'm gonna go patrol friend finder, if you 1455 01:26:40,770 --> 01:26:42,060 know what I mean, again, a camera. 1456 01:26:43,410 --> 01:26:47,910 kind of check on everybody. Go check on the terrorist. Okay, 1457 01:26:47,910 --> 01:26:52,050 knowingly providing hyperlinks on websites to terrorist content 1458 01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:57,420 must be defined by law as illegal. Let me repeat that. 1459 01:26:57,690 --> 01:26:59,700 Yes, please repeat that that was a good one. 1460 01:26:59,879 --> 01:27:04,919 Knowingly providing hyperlinks on websites to terrorist content 1461 01:27:05,219 --> 01:27:09,749 must be defined by law is illegal. Of course, really, what 1462 01:27:09,749 --> 01:27:11,099 is terrorist content? 1463 01:27:11,429 --> 01:27:12,749 Is that of course, man. 1464 01:27:15,900 --> 01:27:20,130 There you go. Terrorist content, states Muslim states. And that 1465 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,680 that means of course, the the member states of the European 1466 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,460 Union countries must make clear that original terrorist content 1467 01:27:26,460 --> 01:27:29,340 and terrorist activities on the internet of people and 1468 01:27:29,340 --> 01:27:33,150 organizations is illegal and should not be allowed on 1469 01:27:33,150 --> 01:27:36,450 internet company platforms. And the platform's is the thing that 1470 01:27:36,450 --> 01:27:38,490 becomes very interesting, because we're going to explain 1471 01:27:38,490 --> 01:27:44,970 what that means. I love this judge's public prosecutors and 1472 01:27:44,970 --> 01:27:49,260 specialized police officers must be legally allowed to order by 1473 01:27:49,260 --> 01:27:52,740 means of a notice and take action procedure to remove 1474 01:27:52,770 --> 01:27:55,800 terrorist content from the internet. So that doesn't mean 1475 01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,620 you're gonna have a trial. I mean, specialized police 1476 01:27:58,620 --> 01:28:01,980 officers can go, let's remove this remove this from the 1477 01:28:01,980 --> 01:28:05,280 internet. This is a terrorist content, let's get rid of it. 1478 01:28:07,260 --> 01:28:11,460 Governments must have le A's or intelligence agencies monitor 1479 01:28:11,460 --> 01:28:15,000 terrorist use of the internet, but only monitor specific 1480 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,090 threats, not primarily the population as a whole or all 1481 01:28:18,090 --> 01:28:21,630 internet use. Again, what could possibly go wrong with that? 1482 01:28:22,530 --> 01:28:25,200 Governments have clear policies and intelligence gathering and 1483 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,380 when to take action against terrorists radicalizing content 1484 01:28:28,380 --> 01:28:31,560 on the radicalizing content on the internet. So now it's 1485 01:28:31,620 --> 01:28:36,030 radicalizing content that they will be policing. Governments 1486 01:28:36,030 --> 01:28:39,060 must have specialized police officers patrol on social media. 1487 01:28:39,060 --> 01:28:43,470 There it is, again, governments must disseminate lists of domain 1488 01:28:43,470 --> 01:28:47,100 names that are not allowed to be registered to prevent terrorist 1489 01:28:47,100 --> 01:28:53,310 propaganda. So what would what like I don't know. No agenda 1490 01:28:53,310 --> 01:28:54,210 show.com. 1491 01:28:56,130 --> 01:28:58,920 No agenda that's got a very nebulous, 1492 01:28:59,340 --> 01:29:02,610 it's propaganda man, is to prevent terrorist propaganda. 1493 01:29:02,610 --> 01:29:06,000 This is so open for interpretation. Governments must 1494 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:11,010 subsidize competent NGOs as non governmental organizations gonna 1495 01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:14,610 have to be us exactly. That substantially contribute to 1496 01:29:14,610 --> 01:29:18,240 reducing terrorist use on the Internet and radicalized we're 1497 01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,300 up. That's exactly what the no agenda shows all about. But then 1498 01:29:21,300 --> 01:29:21,600 we have to 1499 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:25,800 become a registered NGO. Yeah. Okay. Well, there's money in it 1500 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,050 for us. I'm telling you, there's big money in it for us. 1501 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,570 Yeah. I mean, I don't have a problem with this. Okay. 1502 01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,490 Let me skip down to the next bit here. 1503 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,450 And by the way, we also consider Hillary a terrorist. Yes. And 1504 01:29:39,450 --> 01:29:39,660 just 1505 01:29:39,660 --> 01:29:42,570 saying this is enough to get us kicked off. Now we have to 1506 01:29:42,570 --> 01:29:47,400 implement flagging and reporting buttons systems. Flagging slash 1507 01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,940 Report button systems must be implemented by provider 1508 01:29:50,940 --> 01:29:55,200 everywhere. Ah, yes, log. Well, yes, I'll tell you. This has to 1509 01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,680 happen on the following providers of chat boxes, email 1510 01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:02,130 services, messaging says Some social networks retailing sized 1511 01:30:02,340 --> 01:30:06,210 Voice over Internet Protocol, web forums must all have 1512 01:30:06,210 --> 01:30:09,870 flagging systems. web forums. 1513 01:30:13,019 --> 01:30:14,999 Now it's dumb, but it gets better. 1514 01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:19,860 The anonymity of the boingboing. Yeah, the anonymity of the 1515 01:30:19,860 --> 01:30:23,730 reporter must be preserved. Reporter details must hit man. 1516 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,010 This is contradictory because there's other laws saying you 1517 01:30:26,010 --> 01:30:28,020 can't have anonymity. What's the deal? 1518 01:30:28,829 --> 01:30:32,219 Let me finish the sentence. Reporter details must never be 1519 01:30:32,219 --> 01:30:36,029 shown to content owners. In other words, you can just go rat 1520 01:30:36,029 --> 01:30:39,839 on people and you're never gonna have any recover repercussions 1521 01:30:39,869 --> 01:30:42,929 because you know, you'll be protected. You'll be protected 1522 01:30:42,929 --> 01:30:44,219 by ratting someone out. 1523 01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,090 Oh, yeah, I'm reading out the New York Times. 1524 01:30:48,390 --> 01:30:52,710 Specialized NGOs should actively flagged illegal terrorist 1525 01:30:52,710 --> 01:30:55,860 content. Oh, my God. John, can you imagine just sitting around 1526 01:30:55,860 --> 01:30:57,630 all day just clicking flagging stuff 1527 01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,560 all day, like this guy's face. 1528 01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,640 And it gets better. Internet companies could extend a higher 1529 01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:09,060 credibility status to trusted flagging organizations. 1530 01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:13,890 trusted flaggers? Yes. I love the brown dress that flag to say 1531 01:31:13,890 --> 01:31:14,700 my flag 1532 01:31:14,790 --> 01:31:17,340 will have the brown shirts in cyberspace. 1533 01:31:17,610 --> 01:31:19,560 I don't know about your flag. But I wouldn't mind seeing your 1534 01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:20,910 poll. Hey, now. 1535 01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:26,430 Voice over IP Voice over IP services, it must be possible to 1536 01:31:26,430 --> 01:31:29,790 flag users for terrorist activity. Now you guys got it 1537 01:31:29,790 --> 01:31:30,150 out. 1538 01:31:30,420 --> 01:31:31,470 Unless you're listening in. 1539 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,200 If messaging systems are attached, it must also be 1540 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:38,400 possible to flag specific messages. Some Voice over IP 1541 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,160 technologies allow for conversations to be flagged. 1542 01:31:41,190 --> 01:31:43,110 Yeah, I guess that's what Skypes doing. That's why they're 1543 01:31:43,110 --> 01:31:44,130 sucking so bad. 1544 01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,460 Yeah, too many flags clogging up the bandwidth. Internet 1545 01:31:47,460 --> 01:31:47,940 companies 1546 01:31:47,940 --> 01:31:51,570 offering users the opportunity to create their own subgroups 1547 01:31:52,140 --> 01:31:54,690 should make flagging reporting buttons available on the 1548 01:31:54,690 --> 01:31:56,850 subgroups. And for the most is 1549 01:31:56,850 --> 01:32:00,180 read listen list. Now you're getting me mad. And there's a 1550 01:32:00,180 --> 01:32:03,630 column and this is my Monday calling magazine how stupid this 1551 01:32:03,630 --> 01:32:07,530 is. You can have every blog and every comment stream and 1552 01:32:07,530 --> 01:32:10,620 everything does have a flagging by the moment. 1553 01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:15,450 And for the moderators to remove content. So we need to have 1554 01:32:15,450 --> 01:32:16,710 nots, you can if that's what 1555 01:32:16,710 --> 01:32:24,480 moderators can do already. Yeah. Nazis. moderators, moderate, for 1556 01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:29,700 a reason to terrorism, if somebody comes on the blog and 1557 01:32:29,700 --> 01:32:30,630 says, You suck. 1558 01:32:30,870 --> 01:32:34,350 Well, this is interesting, because I'm glad you asked me 1559 01:32:34,350 --> 01:32:38,220 that question. They're terrorizing me. Here it is. So 1560 01:32:38,220 --> 01:32:42,300 now they know. So the calling for this advisory organization, 1561 01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,760 which will determine all of these things. This is the 1562 01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,240 ministry of appropriate freedoms. The organization will 1563 01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,930 provide research and advice on terrorist and other content 1564 01:32:51,930 --> 01:32:56,850 which is recognized as dangerous throughout the EU and in each 1565 01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:02,640 individual country. They would be legislation, the organization 1566 01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:06,660 should provide advice on legislation and jurisprudence, 1567 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,910 academic work on the subject, material that can be researched 1568 01:33:11,910 --> 01:33:16,860 and use for machine learning, known terrorist and extremist 1569 01:33:16,860 --> 01:33:20,610 content. And here comes hate speech. 1570 01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:29,820 So that's where you're going to get kicked off the interwebs is 1571 01:33:29,820 --> 01:33:32,490 because of your hate speech, because you said something 1572 01:33:32,490 --> 01:33:39,780 hateful, you bullied somebody, boo hoo hoo. By the way, if 1573 01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:43,050 you're going to join one of the NGOs, the Nazi group 1574 01:33:43,050 --> 01:33:48,900 organizations, estates here, specifically governments, legal, 1575 01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:53,550 law enforcement agencies, NGOs, and internet companies could 1576 01:33:53,550 --> 01:33:58,470 employ or use former terrorists and victims to reduce 1577 01:33:58,470 --> 01:34:01,860 radicalization online. So there's a gig in it for you so 1578 01:34:01,860 --> 01:34:09,600 we can flip Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So see, had one more 1579 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,270 thing. referral units, 1580 01:34:12,300 --> 01:34:14,370 what are you reading from again, unless you remind me, 1581 01:34:14,430 --> 01:34:23,280 this is the clean it. Clean it September 2012. Document for 1582 01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,560 best practices and permanent dialogue. 1583 01:34:26,700 --> 01:34:31,800 And this came from from the interwebs. Not made came from 1584 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,410 the EU or who's who's the author of the 1585 01:34:34,440 --> 01:34:38,220 this is the if you I'll give you the website, hold on a second. 1586 01:34:38,850 --> 01:34:49,950 Is Here it is. Come on mouse. The URL is clean. It project got 1587 01:34:49,950 --> 01:34:58,920 EU and they have the August. Up there the August draft. This is 1588 01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:03,030 September. This is reducing. So the most recent article on the 1589 01:35:03,030 --> 01:35:06,210 clean it is reducing the impact of terrorist use of the 1590 01:35:06,210 --> 01:35:14,910 Internet. And so, September is not published officially. Now, 1591 01:35:14,910 --> 01:35:16,080 interestingly enough, 1592 01:35:17,550 --> 01:35:20,280 this is how does this differ from the August? Did you do a 1593 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,320 comparison? Yeah. 1594 01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,390 The August was just like, oh terrorists, you know, using the 1595 01:35:27,390 --> 01:35:30,330 internet, whatever. Now, radicalizing, no, no, this this 1596 01:35:30,330 --> 01:35:33,930 has specific rules and regulations are laying out here. 1597 01:35:33,990 --> 01:35:36,840 You should this wasn't just planted and it's bull crap. And 1598 01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,660 it never will appear in the real document. No, because 1599 01:35:39,660 --> 01:35:44,370 the last time I got one it was it was published a few weeks 1600 01:35:44,370 --> 01:35:50,250 later, okay. Internet companies must only ask customers users to 1601 01:35:50,250 --> 01:35:55,110 identify themselves in with real, real names. 1602 01:35:56,460 --> 01:36:01,350 Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. How can you what are the 1603 01:36:01,350 --> 01:36:05,880 cops doing it? They're gonna be patrolling the Facebook and the 1604 01:36:06,150 --> 01:36:08,910 Twitter and the friendfinder. And all the rest of these 1605 01:36:08,910 --> 01:36:11,340 things. They're gonna be using their real names Adolphus 1606 01:36:11,340 --> 01:36:13,500 sergeant, John Jenkins. 1607 01:36:13,530 --> 01:36:16,710 Well, I'm glad I'm glad you asked that we have the heading 1608 01:36:16,710 --> 01:36:20,880 virtual policing a virtual community policing. Let me read 1609 01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,550 you some hype. And this, by the way is all marked up in the show 1610 01:36:23,550 --> 01:36:27,300 notes you can download the PDF. virtual community policing must 1611 01:36:27,300 --> 01:36:30,510 be used to find and connect to persons in danger of being 1612 01:36:30,510 --> 01:36:31,440 radicalized. 1613 01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:34,500 There's a whole bunch of just arrest them and throw them in 1614 01:36:34,500 --> 01:36:37,740 the slammer like we normally do. Virtual police officers should 1615 01:36:37,740 --> 01:36:40,950 be Hey, I got a better idea. Why don't we find these people and 1616 01:36:40,950 --> 01:36:43,980 then trick them into pushing a button it says is a bomb blowing 1617 01:36:43,980 --> 01:36:48,060 up a building that will be well, virtual? Are we doing most of 1618 01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:51,690 the radicalization ourselves I mean, well, just cutting out the 1619 01:36:51,690 --> 01:36:53,610 middleman doesn't make sense, then I'll 1620 01:36:53,610 --> 01:36:57,660 jump straight to point eight virtual police officers should 1621 01:36:57,660 --> 01:37:01,740 become members in extremist and terrorist fora as much as 1622 01:37:01,740 --> 01:37:06,330 possible, subscribing to news mailing lists and alerts etc. To 1623 01:37:06,330 --> 01:37:10,260 be able to detect any terrorist content or activity. It's saying 1624 01:37:10,260 --> 01:37:14,190 it right there. You have the virtual police officers have to 1625 01:37:14,220 --> 01:37:19,470 join the terrorist forums, which they call for. Subscribe to the 1626 01:37:19,470 --> 01:37:22,620 news and news lists and mailing lists I guess get involved in 1627 01:37:22,620 --> 01:37:27,810 the communities you can then go bust people. Virtual police 1628 01:37:27,810 --> 01:37:30,780 officers on the other hand should be easily recognizable 1629 01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:34,230 make clear they are real policemen and use their real 1630 01:37:34,230 --> 01:37:40,380 photos names and various ways to contact them. Virtual police 1631 01:37:40,380 --> 01:37:44,370 officers should use going to work virtual police officers 1632 01:37:44,370 --> 01:37:48,480 should use easy to understand popular language friendly icons 1633 01:37:48,570 --> 01:37:52,020 and profile photographs in order to lower the threshold of being 1634 01:37:52,020 --> 01:37:55,680 contacted and in order to be effective in combination with 1635 01:37:55,680 --> 01:38:07,680 the younger users of social media was up yo brah yo bro guys 1636 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:19,590 anyone lead around here so this is what's coming and then you 1637 01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:22,200 know what's gonna happen this is exactly what this is. You know 1638 01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,050 there's no stopping this and this is also going to be used 1639 01:38:25,050 --> 01:38:30,780 for intellectual property. Yeah, this is going to be used to curb 1640 01:38:30,780 --> 01:38:33,660 your free speech which you already don't have certainly not 1641 01:38:33,660 --> 01:38:36,450 in Europe. You know, because then you might be practicing 1642 01:38:36,450 --> 01:38:38,100 hate speech. No, I 1643 01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:40,620 hate speech I hate I hate hate you suck 1644 01:38:44,310 --> 01:38:46,770 now here in the United States, you suck hate speech. It's 1645 01:38:46,770 --> 01:38:52,530 totally hate speech. here and get more nation proper AT and T 1646 01:38:54,060 --> 01:38:58,620 has now announced that in November, they will start on 1647 01:38:58,620 --> 01:39:03,240 their Uverse with the six strikes in your out policy. And 1648 01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:07,260 it looks like everyone else is joining in on this. So if you 1649 01:39:07,260 --> 01:39:11,040 download in November 28 customers whose accounts are 1650 01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,890 repeatedly flagged there you go there's the flagging already 1651 01:39:14,070 --> 01:39:17,430 sneaking in for alleged copyright infringement which 1652 01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:20,910 means downloading something will have their access to frequently 1653 01:39:20,910 --> 01:39:24,300 visited websites blocked until they complete an online 1654 01:39:24,300 --> 01:39:29,580 copyright course. Internet your speakers just a little bit John. 1655 01:39:29,730 --> 01:39:32,520 Just a tad. Just coming back. 1656 01:39:32,550 --> 01:39:36,090 This is a reminds me of traffic school. 1657 01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:41,820 It's exactly the same as traffic school. And an 18 t's U verse is 1658 01:39:41,820 --> 01:39:47,430 not the only one that's going to do this Time Warner I'm also we 1659 01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:51,810 have we have the what's the other cable outfit? 1660 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,260 Time where Comcast Comcast Yeah, 1661 01:39:55,290 --> 01:39:58,230 they're gonna do it. Verizon. Everyone's jumping on the 1662 01:39:58,230 --> 01:40:02,700 bandwagon, November 28. Is when everyone's going to start 1663 01:40:02,700 --> 01:40:07,770 Cablevision, Comcast Time Warner and Verizon and if you if you 1664 01:40:07,770 --> 01:40:14,040 download something illegally more than six times then you 1665 01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:18,360 then you will basically only get a web page that says you have to 1666 01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:24,300 complete the copyright course. Which is just like traffic 1667 01:40:24,300 --> 01:40:25,080 school. You're right. 1668 01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:28,350 Yeah, and you knew what that means. These are what the scam 1669 01:40:28,350 --> 01:40:29,490 is I'll tell you why. Right now 1670 01:40:29,490 --> 01:40:31,680 where you're worried about some money. It's a money scam. 1671 01:40:31,710 --> 01:40:34,890 Exactly. This course is going to cost John or 1672 01:40:34,890 --> 01:40:38,010 dollars. Why don't we set the course of where we should be 1673 01:40:38,010 --> 01:40:38,370 headed. The 1674 01:40:38,670 --> 01:40:47,460 first thing I thought of is is air some money we need something 1675 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:52,140 Yeah, we do. I'm gonna show my mood by donating to no agenda. 1676 01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,320 Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun 1677 01:41:02,700 --> 01:41:05,130 we do a few people think we want to thank them right now. 1678 01:41:05,910 --> 01:41:11,190 Beginning with Keisha? Right for the $150 and no comment. I 1679 01:41:11,190 --> 01:41:13,950 couldn't find one in the email either Murray stone and stone 1680 01:41:13,950 --> 01:41:17,160 Vermont. Just town is actually named after him. 1681 01:41:17,550 --> 01:41:20,820 Cool. Yeah, and that's not a coincidence. 1682 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:25,260 $100 Here's a small donation as you can keep up your good work 1683 01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:27,600 so you can keep up the good work I started listening in after 1684 01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,570 realizing that grumpy guy on Twitter just might know a thing 1685 01:41:30,570 --> 01:41:34,200 or two. I do like your commercial free value for value 1686 01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,500 business model and hope you can continue at least until the end 1687 01:41:37,500 --> 01:41:42,030 of the world as we know it. Which is coming up my dad pretty 1688 01:41:42,030 --> 01:41:44,700 short. I'd like some random karma 1689 01:41:45,570 --> 01:41:46,800 random karma it is. 1690 01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:48,870 You've got karma. 1691 01:41:50,460 --> 01:41:54,120 Michael Henry in Snellville Georgia $100 Thanks again for 1692 01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:55,890 the best podcast in the universe. Here's a small 1693 01:41:55,890 --> 01:41:59,700 donation to help keep Y'all good with your better halves a karma 1694 01:41:59,700 --> 01:42:03,180 and one hot meal for the dames out there from Sir Michael Henry 1695 01:42:03,180 --> 01:42:07,470 and Sir Michael sorry. From Snellville. That's one hot now. 1696 01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,310 You've got karma. 1697 01:42:13,950 --> 01:42:17,880 And our Baron of record in Belgium. 1698 01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:21,840 Oh, well. The Baron is back while he was back. All right. 1699 01:42:21,870 --> 01:42:25,500 Awesome. Good. I guess the divorce finalized. Baron van 1700 01:42:25,500 --> 01:42:30,180 Pels, mockers. Especial donation on today's episode of the Best 1701 01:42:30,180 --> 01:42:33,300 podcast in university 555 for pre celebrating five years of 1702 01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:35,550 the best fun I've had while commuting to and from work, 1703 01:42:35,910 --> 01:42:39,510 including the DSC and a 4444 to wish myself a happy birthday in 1704 01:42:39,510 --> 01:42:43,020 the same this next Monday. We do have them on the list. I would 1705 01:42:43,020 --> 01:42:45,120 like to request a little karma in order to help me find a 1706 01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:48,810 perfect new home soon. Keep up the great work and as Adam said, 1707 01:42:49,110 --> 01:42:56,370 always Judy zo van der BGF lezen Don vert Jeff, in de lager, 1708 01:42:56,370 --> 01:43:03,600 Landon Onga, Val de vich, Roy, John ROG Amara and Bobby 1709 01:43:06,900 --> 01:43:09,750 There's nothing funnier than making you say stuff in Dutch. 1710 01:43:10,830 --> 01:43:15,240 And you really you and you're really pretty good. So it was an 1711 01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:20,130 I in a J It's an A that's the only thing so it will be blame 1712 01:43:20,130 --> 01:43:23,550 shift to whenever you whenever you see the hours the word okay 1713 01:43:23,700 --> 01:43:27,840 you see the ferriter bleibt lace and so you see the the air their 1714 01:43:27,870 --> 01:43:31,350 life delays and right now read the one after life along the 1715 01:43:32,970 --> 01:43:36,210 line on the way well 1716 01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,730 fell over trifled on good 1717 01:43:38,730 --> 01:43:43,770 trifled on the trifled vit Rotella for turtles Very good. 1718 01:43:44,670 --> 01:43:47,400 You know it's much much better than you think you know. 1719 01:43:49,050 --> 01:43:50,880 I should take the language at a small course. 1720 01:43:50,910 --> 01:43:55,470 Yeah, let me just let me hit let me hit karma. Karma this little 1721 01:43:55,470 --> 01:43:56,340 karma from the Baron 1722 01:43:57,900 --> 01:44:01,020 Toby knots in Kenilworth Illinois. That's the little 1723 01:44:01,020 --> 01:44:05,010 ritzy town just north of Chicago. 3333 in honor of 1724 01:44:05,010 --> 01:44:09,540 1011 12 plus 3535. Can I get a look over here plus a double 1725 01:44:09,540 --> 01:44:12,840 tap? Looking forward to joining the order of knights shortly. 1726 01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:15,240 Peace Love no home or big hair Toby? 1727 01:44:17,190 --> 01:44:20,670 Don't look over here. Nothing to see. Look. 1728 01:44:23,070 --> 01:44:24,750 You've got karma. 1729 01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:25,800 I like that combo. 1730 01:44:26,190 --> 01:44:31,050 That's a good combo. Joseph hatch in Springfield Virginie Oh 1731 01:44:31,500 --> 01:44:41,970 6969 My prediction was wrong. We got more 60 Niners so I'm 1732 01:44:42,870 --> 01:44:47,130 getting Suazo knifes keeping the dream alive just getting by both 1733 01:44:47,130 --> 01:44:51,210 of you keep up the great work is also my birthday. Turning 33 1734 01:44:51,210 --> 01:44:54,210 today can I get a citizen to do the head getting laid karma I'm 1735 01:44:54,210 --> 01:44:58,860 getting the needed for the year just find out. This week my wife 1736 01:44:58,860 --> 01:45:02,460 is going to have our third baby Maybe she's pissed that our 1737 01:45:02,460 --> 01:45:04,500 three year old says Shut up slave. 1738 01:45:07,140 --> 01:45:13,590 He says oops. That's very funny actually. Okay. Hey citizen, a 1739 01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:16,290 citizen. Double tap citizen 1740 01:45:19,500 --> 01:45:21,000 karma. I added that. 1741 01:45:22,740 --> 01:45:27,090 Brian Williams Streamwood Illinois 6969. No comment. Larry 1742 01:45:27,090 --> 01:45:30,480 and Kara 6969 Wish we could donate sooner Better late than 1743 01:45:30,480 --> 01:45:34,050 never. I propagate the formula and hit my husband in the mouth 1744 01:45:34,050 --> 01:45:39,840 now he's addicted and propagates to we're sending 3333 times to 1745 01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,420 for tickets to the mothership. Because when the shit hits the 1746 01:45:42,420 --> 01:45:46,290 fan, we're too old to head for the hills and 6969 for the best 1747 01:45:46,290 --> 01:45:50,550 podcast in the universe. She's they actually sent in another 1748 01:45:50,550 --> 01:45:55,950 6666 On top of this one. All right, cool. Can we get a we 1749 01:45:55,950 --> 01:46:00,240 want to show our support by donating to na de douching and 1750 01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:03,570 karma and possible another karma for my husband's boss, Bob? 1751 01:46:04,350 --> 01:46:06,180 Who's, unfortunately got Parkinson's. 1752 01:46:06,270 --> 01:46:11,040 Okay, well, here it comes. You're gonna you've been d do a 1753 01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:16,410 big fat karma for everything you need. You've got karma. Just can 1754 01:46:16,410 --> 01:46:18,480 you lower the speakers just a tad more, or, 1755 01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:22,590 This is a funny irony to this. Uh, for one thing, you shouldn't 1756 01:46:22,590 --> 01:46:24,900 be hearing the speakers because they got the mic set up in such 1757 01:46:24,900 --> 01:46:27,750 a way. So I don't know where that echoes coming from. But 1758 01:46:27,780 --> 01:46:32,730 one, the mumble configuration volume control doesn't do 1759 01:46:32,730 --> 01:46:38,550 anything. And the system volume controls doesn't do anything. 1760 01:46:38,850 --> 01:46:39,690 Doesn't do anything. So 1761 01:46:39,690 --> 01:46:42,450 you can't actually turn down the volume. No, 1762 01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,480 I can't change the volume at all. I can't even mute it. 1763 01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:47,310 Really? Yeah. 1764 01:46:47,849 --> 01:46:51,059 Because I because I'm hearing my voice come back and I can see 1765 01:46:51,059 --> 01:46:53,369 it's coming from you because I can see the European 1766 01:46:53,370 --> 01:46:55,950 ones possibly coming from me but it's it's awfully sensitive 1767 01:46:55,950 --> 01:46:59,070 because it never has before and whatever. Whatever stuck with 1768 01:46:59,070 --> 01:46:59,430 it. No, 1769 01:46:59,460 --> 01:47:02,490 it's alright, because what I've done here is I've just added a 1770 01:47:02,490 --> 01:47:06,180 little more gate. So you have to make sure you're talking to the 1771 01:47:06,180 --> 01:47:07,140 mic otherwise you're not 1772 01:47:07,830 --> 01:47:14,040 talking into the mic now. Is this good? Yeah. What? Scott in 1773 01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:18,750 Leesburg, Virginia. 6969 I haven't been getting any 6969 1774 01:47:18,750 --> 01:47:20,370 action lately, and I couldn't bear 1775 01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:24,660 one. What? Oh, boy. He's not getting any 69 action. That 1776 01:47:24,660 --> 01:47:25,230 sucks. Ah, 1777 01:47:25,290 --> 01:47:28,290 I couldn't bear the thought of you suffering the same fate. 1778 01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,640 Please send a double tap striker to the drone loving drones with 1779 01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:36,540 whom I work. By the way. There's a bunch of people like that. He 1780 01:47:36,540 --> 01:47:36,750 wants 1781 01:47:36,750 --> 01:47:42,300 a douchebag to to the head. Let me do that first. Right, you got 1782 01:47:42,300 --> 01:47:42,480 it. 1783 01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,500 Anyway, there's a bunch of people out there that you taught 1784 01:47:46,500 --> 01:47:48,570 bring up the drones thing. Yeah. Well, you know, we had to 1785 01:47:48,570 --> 01:47:52,590 protect Americans. Seriously, it's weird. 1786 01:47:52,860 --> 01:47:57,420 Well, they are programmed. The mind control is work is working 1787 01:47:57,450 --> 01:47:59,340 great success. 1788 01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:03,240 Beth Visser in Winnipeg, Manitoba. 6969. I wish to wish 1789 01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:10,350 my smokin hot DILF husband. Dad I'd like to happy 33rd On the 1790 01:48:10,350 --> 01:48:13,170 13th we both love the no agenda show and have filled many a road 1791 01:48:13,170 --> 01:48:16,920 trip listening in our three human resources are often found 1792 01:48:16,980 --> 01:48:23,220 singing the jingles douchebag being a family favorite. To 1793 01:48:23,220 --> 01:48:24,870 carry gay kids we got one for you 1794 01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:29,040 ready? Hey kids, listen to this one shot slave. There you go. 1795 01:48:29,130 --> 01:48:31,440 Good job. Kids. Keep saying that to mommy and daddy. 1796 01:48:32,340 --> 01:48:38,730 Mike Nicola Nicola chuck in the Paris of Canada. Saskatoon is 1797 01:48:38,730 --> 01:48:44,850 back. 6969 Mike here from Saskatoon, also known as roll SK 1798 01:48:44,850 --> 01:48:48,150 and chat. Here's my Swasey enough donation for the month. 1799 01:48:48,390 --> 01:48:51,690 John Adams he was 100% correct about my last name. Thank you, 1800 01:48:51,690 --> 01:48:55,350 Adam. Please send me some 6969 karma for adventures in such 1801 01:48:55,350 --> 01:48:58,260 matters. Please keep up the great work on the media 1802 01:48:58,260 --> 01:49:01,770 assassination. And please if you can, at some Canadian content, 1803 01:49:01,950 --> 01:49:05,280 US Canucks have been stepping it up. So I figure we deserve it. 1804 01:49:05,310 --> 01:49:05,850 Oh, I've got 1805 01:49:05,850 --> 01:49:07,590 some four year coming up. Promise. 1806 01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:09,990 You've got karma 1807 01:49:11,700 --> 01:49:12,450 I got some. 1808 01:49:13,980 --> 01:49:20,370 And Dr. Ninja. Certainly not sure. Do you have a Tete Inc? 1809 01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:26,250 Port Jefferson New York 6969 I didn't get my karma last time 1810 01:49:26,250 --> 01:49:30,300 just my Italian Shut up slave. Oh, so I've been sitting here 1811 01:49:30,300 --> 01:49:34,140 with my mouth shut please give me some long delayed karma 1812 01:49:34,140 --> 01:49:37,800 hopefully it has been sitting in the charger and I karma dose for 1813 01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:40,830 all my Long Island no agenda karma. Yeah, we 1814 01:49:40,830 --> 01:49:43,980 both screwed this one up. That was dumb. By the way, that 1815 01:49:43,980 --> 01:49:46,440 is slip town is pronounced Islip. 1816 01:49:47,250 --> 01:49:50,280 Islip. Yeah, I should have known I should have known a lot 1817 01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:50,760 better. 1818 01:49:51,870 --> 01:49:54,990 Honestly, it's the airport when you fly in at some point. Okay. 1819 01:49:55,019 --> 01:49:57,299 All right. Here's the karma. Sorry, it took so long but it'll 1820 01:49:57,299 --> 01:49:58,499 do it. You've got 1821 01:49:58,650 --> 01:50:04,470 karma. Why do I say Islam? Why, but it's Islip. I never gonna, 1822 01:50:04,620 --> 01:50:07,290 that's a correction I can't make. It's like, 1823 01:50:07,980 --> 01:50:11,370 you can't get that right John Jehovah, just close your eyes. 1824 01:50:12,450 --> 01:50:18,510 Alright, I'm gonna anchor you forever. Islip, Islip, Islip, 1825 01:50:18,510 --> 01:50:22,080 Islip, Islip, Islip you'll never forget, 1826 01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:28,080 Iceland, Sir Michael Miller in Tiburon, California. 6969. Is it 1827 01:50:28,110 --> 01:50:32,040 over? He asks, apparently not. Oh, it probably is this week 1828 01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:36,930 though. John Heller, Missouri Missoula, Montana 6969 In 1829 01:50:36,930 --> 01:50:40,650 Letterman country. Some of this must go directly to Adam and 1830 01:50:40,650 --> 01:50:44,670 Miss Mickey for quitting smoking. Hey, congrats and spend 1831 01:50:44,670 --> 01:50:47,070 some new spending on some new computers. I nearly died 1832 01:50:47,070 --> 01:50:49,470 laughing two weeks ago as you struggle with Skype and mumble. 1833 01:50:51,150 --> 01:50:54,480 I get excited on Sundays and Thursdays. Awaiting the days 1834 01:50:54,480 --> 01:50:57,570 deconstruction I just attended a lecture by Robert Hastings 1835 01:50:57,570 --> 01:51:02,400 author of UFOs the untold truth. He calls it a government cover 1836 01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:06,060 up for unknown reasons. But are you two rational thinkers think 1837 01:51:06,060 --> 01:51:10,110 about you have was you kidding me? They're real. Of course. I 1838 01:51:10,110 --> 01:51:13,530 don't believe it. Oh, karma or anything. He's retired. But he 1839 01:51:13,530 --> 01:51:17,310 is the last on the list of 6969 1840 01:51:18,660 --> 01:51:22,470 that totally that has to kill it now. Sir. 6969 1841 01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:27,450 segment. No, that's, I can't Well, maybe somebody else will 1842 01:51:27,450 --> 01:51:29,880 come in one more time. I just can't see this. This is almost 1843 01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:35,190 been a year. Since Carrie shun in Deutschland started this 1844 01:51:35,190 --> 01:51:35,610 thing. 1845 01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:37,530 It's been a year really a year. 1846 01:51:37,590 --> 01:51:40,500 I think it's almost I have an original note here somewhere. 1847 01:51:40,500 --> 01:51:44,010 I'm gonna dig through and I'll get the date. Harvey Lee in 1848 01:51:44,010 --> 01:51:46,980 Federal Way Washington now we have our 5555 Thank you. 1849 01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:50,430 Donations one of the things that makes me laugh your attempt to 1850 01:51:50,430 --> 01:51:54,990 pronounce Dutch names if you can pronounce nightside would have 1851 01:51:54,990 --> 01:51:58,290 gotten this right Higgins correctly to Adam satisfaction. 1852 01:51:58,290 --> 01:52:02,100 I'll make four more donations or 5555 Give me some 1853 01:52:03,480 --> 01:52:04,950 incorrect pronunciation look, tell 1854 01:52:04,950 --> 01:52:05,790 me how to pronounce it. 1855 01:52:05,849 --> 01:52:11,699 hyphens. Hoggins Huggins how Finn's how Huygens? Don't look 1856 01:52:11,699 --> 01:52:14,039 at you want you want to get more more donations. You want to mess 1857 01:52:14,039 --> 01:52:14,549 around with me. 1858 01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:19,290 i There's one sad just saying what you say how orphans. How 1859 01:52:19,290 --> 01:52:24,840 kittens were screwed. Oscar into Dallas Suraj is going to delta u 1860 01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:29,670 and Ducati California named after the beer 5555. No comment 1861 01:52:29,670 --> 01:52:33,270 like JCD likes it and in fact Mike Bateman in Minneapolis 1862 01:52:33,270 --> 01:52:41,850 Minnesota nuts. 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That's one hot now. 1880 01:53:57,750 --> 01:53:59,460 You've got karma. 1881 01:54:01,710 --> 01:54:08,160 That little kid is funny. K. K gig. A gig in Holly Springs, 1882 01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:11,850 North Carolina. Pity five to five. Wanted to get this in for 1883 01:54:11,850 --> 01:54:14,160 the fifth anniversary. Really enjoy the show and information 1884 01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:17,460 you provide. As an aside the last one of the big distractions 1885 01:54:17,730 --> 01:54:21,090 was the Romney wants to kill big Berg meme. It was pleasing to 1886 01:54:21,090 --> 01:54:24,990 hear on the local triangle area of NC talk radio that most 1887 01:54:24,990 --> 01:54:28,290 people see the underwriting and grants for PBS is what they are 1888 01:54:28,290 --> 01:54:32,070 advertising not so much. Not everyone is brainwashed keep 1889 01:54:32,100 --> 01:54:36,990 hitting them in the mouth at Zollo in Ross River, South 1890 01:54:37,020 --> 01:54:41,160 Australia. Thanks for the best podcast in the university. 1891 01:54:41,490 --> 01:54:44,970 I think it's Ross Trevor. I think I think it's Ross Trevor a 1892 01:54:44,970 --> 01:54:48,300 lot simpler than I said Ross tramore you knows what you said. 1893 01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:56,730 Ross, Trevor? Ed. James doubting in Fremantle, Western Australia 1894 01:54:56,730 --> 01:55:04,590 5555 No comment. Jeffrey Molnar, in Omaha Nebraska at 510 I fell 1895 01:55:04,590 --> 01:55:07,470 behind on listing and I haven't donated in a while but I finally 1896 01:55:07,470 --> 01:55:10,020 caught up to the episode where Adam lectured me for falling 1897 01:55:10,020 --> 01:55:13,920 behind. 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And you can see what those look 1930 01:57:10,020 --> 01:57:17,580 like today's episode shownotes 452 dot n a show notes.com.org/n 1931 01:57:17,580 --> 01:57:18,210 A for 1932 01:57:18,210 --> 01:57:20,850 you hit the jingle there can you give Christopher lemon some 1933 01:57:20,850 --> 01:57:25,140 gratuitous karma for being he's gonna get evicted? Oh, 1934 01:57:25,170 --> 01:57:28,470 where did this come in on the on the emails? Nice. It's 1935 01:57:28,500 --> 01:57:29,400 it's an email. Yeah, 1936 01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:31,530 well, we don't want them evicted. That will be no good. 1937 01:57:32,310 --> 01:57:33,990 You've got karma. 1938 01:57:46,140 --> 01:57:50,040 We kick it off with our very own Baron of Belgium. Baron Steven 1939 01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:54,180 Bomb pal Smotrich wretches himself celebrating on the 15th 1940 01:57:54,180 --> 01:57:58,710 tomorrow Joseph hatch turns 3314 today that Fizzers says Happy 1941 01:57:58,710 --> 01:58:01,560 Birthday to her husband Patrick. He turned 33 Yesterday happy 1942 01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:04,530 birthday from all your buddies here, the best podcast in the 1943 01:58:04,530 --> 01:58:11,370 universe. And then we have two nice things which is nice as 1944 01:58:11,370 --> 01:58:16,140 people are becoming 1011 12 nights and 12 we still need a 1945 01:58:16,140 --> 01:58:19,950 couple more of the 1212 12 of course anyone who checks in 1946 01:58:19,950 --> 01:58:23,550 before the end of the year receives still receives our 1947 01:58:23,550 --> 01:58:27,240 wonderful night ring package. So if you can just draw your blade 1948 01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:34,560 there, John. Hello. Thomas Wyler stepped forward. And Kim please 1949 01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:39,960 step forward that is Kim is receiving the damn hood I 1950 01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:44,160 presume from Sir Tyler Fox. So thank you very much for your 1951 01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:47,550 donation in the amount of $1,000 or more you now joined the links 1952 01:58:47,550 --> 01:58:50,430 the group on the no agenda roundtable nights and Dan's 1953 01:58:50,430 --> 01:58:54,330 please stand by as I hereby pronounce the Sir Thomas and 1954 01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:59,070 night and day of the no agenda roundtable your horse and low 1955 01:58:59,070 --> 01:59:02,850 rent boys and Chardonnay guy says and Saki actually Mickey 1956 01:59:02,850 --> 01:59:05,520 made me say geishas and sakeI she said I was saying we were 1957 01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,250 saying it wrong. It's Geisha night, not 1958 01:59:08,250 --> 01:59:10,470 geisha. And there was a geisha? 1959 01:59:10,500 --> 01:59:16,080 I guess I did and I knocked off my crap. My light fell off my 1960 01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:18,390 desk when I was so excited when I do these knighthoods. I 1961 01:59:18,390 --> 01:59:18,750 actually 1962 01:59:18,750 --> 01:59:23,070 would like to be in the dark when you podcast I do. Like in a 1963 01:59:23,070 --> 01:59:23,670 cave, 1964 01:59:23,700 --> 01:59:27,390 but I actually have a Oh man it broke. Oh crap. 1965 01:59:28,140 --> 01:59:31,350 I can't see your keyboard it turn the light on in the in the 1966 01:59:31,410 --> 01:59:32,100 room. 1967 01:59:32,190 --> 01:59:35,460 Well, you know, the thing is I have a light that actually just 1968 01:59:35,550 --> 01:59:40,740 is clipped onto the monitor. And when I do these knighthoods, I 1969 01:59:40,740 --> 01:59:44,370 actually I waved my arms. Yeah, I am doing the whole chunking 1970 01:59:44,370 --> 01:59:49,020 thing. I know I'm getting all wild and stuff. And so I knocked 1971 01:59:49,020 --> 01:59:51,600 the light off and broke the whole attachment. When I was 1972 01:59:51,870 --> 01:59:54,300 reminded I'm walking down the street and there's some woman 1973 01:59:54,300 --> 01:59:58,050 sitting on a park bench on her cell phone yakking at some and 1974 01:59:58,050 --> 02:00:01,200 she's wiggling her arms all over the place. He says if this 1975 02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:04,950 gesticulating actually is being communicated somehow magically 1976 02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:05,760 over the phone 1977 02:00:06,150 --> 02:00:09,150 well that's pretty much me John just like that. I'm just sticky 1978 02:00:09,150 --> 02:00:14,460 lating so I promised some Canadian content here it is 1979 02:00:14,490 --> 02:00:18,180 page dedicated to Amanda Todd's memory the bullies have found 1980 02:00:18,180 --> 02:00:23,310 her again. The news below it rest in peace Amanda laugh out 1981 02:00:23,310 --> 02:00:27,270 loud. I'm so happy she's dead now wrote another who identified 1982 02:00:27,270 --> 02:00:30,810 herself as a classmate and pictures the one that teen wish 1983 02:00:30,810 --> 02:00:35,160 she'd never shared, posted over and over again. Police 1984 02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:38,970 investigating her death are now also investigating this 1985 02:00:39,150 --> 02:00:40,620 gathering evidence 1986 02:00:41,279 --> 02:00:44,009 to potential so you clearly you need a little setup to this 1987 02:00:44,009 --> 02:00:47,639 clip. This is about Amanda Todd. And there's a reason why I'm 1988 02:00:47,639 --> 02:00:51,239 playing this clip Amanda Todd who killed herself after being 1989 02:00:51,239 --> 02:00:56,159 cyber bullied to a Canadian really identify an individual 1990 02:00:56,159 --> 02:00:59,519 that may in some way have played a role in her ultimately making 1991 02:00:59,519 --> 02:01:00,539 this terrible decision. 1992 02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:06,960 This is Amanda Todd just weeks ago in flashcards detailing a 1993 02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:11,550 teenage mistake. A nude photo sent in trust than broadcast for 1994 02:01:11,550 --> 02:01:16,560 all to ridicule. She changed homes she changed schools but 1995 02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:20,550 the internet bullies wouldn't allow the gossip to die. This 15 1996 02:01:20,550 --> 02:01:23,790 year old killed herself Wednesday. Her mother said she's 1997 02:01:23,790 --> 02:01:27,120 proud her daughter made that video. She didn't want anyone to 1998 02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:33,480 feel the pain that she felt she had the biggest part. It changes 1999 02:01:33,510 --> 02:01:37,980 your life forever. If anyone understands this pain Alan cube 2000 02:01:37,980 --> 02:01:41,790 Lee does his son Jamie was bullied. Last October the 15 2001 02:01:41,790 --> 02:01:45,120 year old killed himself Hubler has been fighting for change 2002 02:01:45,180 --> 02:01:46,050 ever since 2003 02:01:46,590 --> 02:01:50,820 people in British Columbia will come together and just say to 2004 02:01:50,820 --> 02:01:54,210 the bullies that it's over. The game's up stop 2005 02:01:54,510 --> 02:01:58,140 cyberbullying and sexting our words experts say need to become 2006 02:01:58,140 --> 02:02:01,980 part of all Canadians vocabulary, advice for parents, 2007 02:02:02,010 --> 02:02:05,910 educate your kids, remind them what goes online stays online. 2008 02:02:06,450 --> 02:02:09,030 Just like they teach kids about being street smart and street 2009 02:02:09,030 --> 02:02:11,370 safety. They can teach you about cyber safety. 2010 02:02:11,670 --> 02:02:15,630 While police investigate how and why Amanda Todd died B C's 2011 02:02:15,630 --> 02:02:18,840 Premier is calling for change, potentially making cyber 2012 02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:22,710 bullying a criminal offense. Identifying and punishing kids 2013 02:02:22,770 --> 02:02:23,880 who hurt kids. 2014 02:02:24,060 --> 02:02:27,720 Ah, there you go. There you go. It is a will become a criminal 2015 02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:33,180 offence to bully online. And are you still with me, John? Yeah. 2016 02:02:33,210 --> 02:02:37,050 Okay. I would like to remind everyone that we have seen this 2017 02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:40,890 happen over and over again, where kids get cyber bullied, 2018 02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:46,170 and then they wind up committing suicide. Usually the lawyers who 2019 02:02:46,170 --> 02:02:49,590 come out for this are representing certain other 2020 02:02:49,590 --> 02:02:53,190 entities, because what is not being told in this story I show 2021 02:02:53,220 --> 02:02:56,220 and I want to do whenever I read this, whenever I read teen kills 2022 02:02:56,220 --> 02:03:00,330 himself, because of bullying. I immediately Google for the 2023 02:03:00,330 --> 02:03:03,060 following. And here it is. Amanda's bullying continued 2024 02:03:03,060 --> 02:03:07,830 despite moving to a new city, antidepressants, and counseling 2025 02:03:07,830 --> 02:03:11,850 did little to combat the severe depression. What happens is 2026 02:03:11,850 --> 02:03:15,900 these kids, they, of course, they they become depressed. And 2027 02:03:15,900 --> 02:03:18,240 you know, there's all kinds of, you know, it sucks to be 2028 02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:21,060 bullied, you know, this is when parents need to step up. You 2029 02:03:21,060 --> 02:03:25,140 need to help your child not take them to the doctor and put them 2030 02:03:25,140 --> 02:03:29,190 on the drugs where the commercial literally says may 2031 02:03:29,220 --> 02:03:34,680 induce suicide, thoughts of suicide in young people. These 2032 02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:37,020 kids are killing themselves because you put them on the 2033 02:03:37,020 --> 02:03:41,280 drugs that make them kill themselves. Stop doing this. It 2034 02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:45,780 is not the cyber bullying. It is the drugs that are supposedly 2035 02:03:45,810 --> 02:03:49,560 helping them against their depression. Stop giving your 2036 02:03:49,560 --> 02:04:01,170 children these drugs copies of the day. You can Google it every 2037 02:04:01,170 --> 02:04:01,890 single time. 2038 02:04:02,220 --> 02:04:05,340 Yeah, I think you're probably right. It makes sense. 2039 02:04:06,269 --> 02:04:09,599 You remember the we had the big one here in America. And then 2040 02:04:09,599 --> 02:04:13,289 the lawyers who showed up were were lawyers for pharmaceutical 2041 02:04:13,289 --> 02:04:18,209 companies. Because they want to steer these poor parents in the 2042 02:04:18,209 --> 02:04:21,179 direction of odd cyber bullying. We need laws against cyber 2043 02:04:21,179 --> 02:04:24,569 bullying which of course will completely shut down free speech 2044 02:04:24,659 --> 02:04:28,319 because it'll be hate speech or or the terrorism speech or 2045 02:04:28,319 --> 02:04:32,159 radicalization speech or whatever it is. Please wait 2046 02:04:32,189 --> 02:04:35,219 whatever you do don't look at the the antidepressants we had 2047 02:04:35,219 --> 02:04:37,979 the kid on don't look at the meds that had nothing to do with 2048 02:04:37,979 --> 02:04:38,309 it 2049 02:04:44,790 --> 02:04:48,480 yeah, I'm thinking that's probably right. Yeah, good job 2050 02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:53,010 somebody up and dopamine weird out and that's in especially 2051 02:04:53,010 --> 02:04:54,270 kids. She's only 15 2052 02:04:54,389 --> 02:04:58,109 Yeah. And don't don't the commercial specifically say 2053 02:04:58,230 --> 02:05:00,630 yeah, no, they do we play those commercials. oscillators all the 2054 02:05:00,630 --> 02:05:01,350 disclaimers, 2055 02:05:01,830 --> 02:05:05,160 they say specifically may cause suicidal thoughts in young 2056 02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:05,640 people. 2057 02:05:10,710 --> 02:05:13,410 Okay, well that's your Canadian news, ladies and gentlemen, we 2058 02:05:13,410 --> 02:05:14,520 try to stay upbeat. 2059 02:05:16,410 --> 02:05:21,390 How's that working out? How's that working out for you? All 2060 02:05:21,390 --> 02:05:21,780 right. 2061 02:05:23,490 --> 02:05:26,790 I got a couple of interesting items. These are like, old 2062 02:05:26,790 --> 02:05:31,380 stories that were never reported that I remember. Because they 2063 02:05:31,380 --> 02:05:33,420 were all new when I watched them. It's what I didn't know. 2064 02:05:33,420 --> 02:05:36,750 This is why I didn't know that. Now. Here's a couple of them. 2065 02:05:36,750 --> 02:05:40,740 Let's go through Omega three. How about the weird Gore Bush 2066 02:05:40,740 --> 02:05:44,670 debate anecdote? Now let me set this up. They were discussing 2067 02:05:44,670 --> 02:05:47,910 with some consultants what you know how you set you know, your 2068 02:05:48,060 --> 02:05:51,240 How do you do practice for the debates and all the rest of it. 2069 02:05:51,750 --> 02:05:55,200 And these consultants dropped a little bombshell in here that I 2070 02:05:55,200 --> 02:06:01,650 had no idea. This was during the Bush Gore debates of 2000. I 2071 02:06:02,100 --> 02:06:05,010 keep up with the news. I never heard this story ever, ever see 2072 02:06:05,010 --> 02:06:08,490 videotape of this. You don't even see pictures. No. There's 2073 02:06:08,490 --> 02:06:11,280 there's a reason why you don't want you don't want to show 2074 02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:14,010 those vulnerable moments. We don't want to give away any 2075 02:06:14,010 --> 02:06:17,550 component to our prep in the 2000 campaign, one of McKinnon 2076 02:06:17,550 --> 02:06:21,720 secretaries gave Bush debate prep video to the Gore campaign. 2077 02:06:21,780 --> 02:06:25,380 The Gore campaign very smartly went right to the FBI. And what 2078 02:06:25,380 --> 02:06:25,620 happened 2079 02:06:25,620 --> 02:06:27,540 to her? She went to prison for a year. 2080 02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:30,900 Well, I remember that wasn't that they were getting it off of 2081 02:06:30,900 --> 02:06:33,780 the off of the satellite off of the raw feed was not what how 2082 02:06:33,780 --> 02:06:38,400 they were obtaining that video. That's illegal. I'm just saying 2083 02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:38,790 that's 2084 02:06:39,900 --> 02:06:42,960 no, apparently they had some tapes. And this woman who I 2085 02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:46,020 guess was a double agent for the campaign, if you want to call it 2086 02:06:46,020 --> 02:06:49,440 that. She gives us stuff over the Gore campaign. They call the 2087 02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:52,110 FBI. They throw the woman in prison for doing what? 2088 02:06:53,430 --> 02:06:55,050 For stealing the sex tape. 2089 02:06:55,590 --> 02:06:57,660 I mean, really, what was there something more to this, this 2090 02:06:57,660 --> 02:06:58,680 doesn't sound right. 2091 02:07:00,390 --> 02:07:03,390 Well, it's theft, I guess you can call it. I mean, all these 2092 02:07:03,390 --> 02:07:06,000 you know, the DNC, the RNC, they're incorporated, they're 2093 02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:10,140 corporations. So that's industrial theft, industrial 2094 02:07:10,140 --> 02:07:11,220 espionage. 2095 02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:14,640 So meanwhile, there's this story that's floating around, which 2096 02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:17,010 had mainstream media didn't pick up on I think it's just a 2097 02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:21,780 provocative, provocative action taking place. This came off of I 2098 02:07:21,780 --> 02:07:25,530 think, the Chinese news. This is a simulated drill that's going 2099 02:07:25,530 --> 02:07:29,280 to take place with the United States, working with Japan and 2100 02:07:29,310 --> 02:07:31,080 tell me what you think this might be about. 2101 02:07:31,380 --> 02:07:35,970 The Japanese newspapers Sanchay Shimbun reports that the US and 2102 02:07:35,970 --> 02:07:40,980 Japan will hold joint military drills in November, near and in 2103 02:07:40,980 --> 02:07:45,870 and in inhabited make Abaddon inhabited island in Okinawa 2104 02:07:45,870 --> 02:07:50,220 Prefecture. Naval land and air forces from both countries are 2105 02:07:50,220 --> 02:07:54,660 expected to participate in the drills, which reportedly aimed 2106 02:07:54,660 --> 02:08:00,120 at simulating the retaking of an island occupied by enemy forces. 2107 02:08:01,170 --> 02:08:03,030 Hmm, gee, 2108 02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:05,940 that might be about Well, 2109 02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:08,880 a couple of things are so we got to keep these Chinese in check. 2110 02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:11,550 Because these trainers are doing some really bad stuff they are. 2111 02:08:11,790 --> 02:08:14,880 There is an all out assault on our Petrodollar by the Chinese. 2112 02:08:15,540 --> 02:08:19,140 They are making their own deals outside of the US petro dollar 2113 02:08:19,140 --> 02:08:21,960 system, whatever they had, like 10 countries now they're doing 2114 02:08:21,960 --> 02:08:25,890 the doing oil deals with we got it. We got to check these guys. 2115 02:08:26,460 --> 02:08:30,120 And now the movement in Toledo they're in Ohio. They're all 2116 02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:30,330 over 2117 02:08:30,330 --> 02:08:35,970 Africa. Forget Toledo. We got taken over Toledo. No Holy 2118 02:08:35,970 --> 02:08:36,690 Toledo. 2119 02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:39,750 We got to let these Chinese know that. You know, you can't mess 2120 02:08:39,750 --> 02:08:40,620 with us that way. 2121 02:08:41,370 --> 02:08:44,670 And then there's this and then there's this clip, which this is 2122 02:08:44,670 --> 02:08:48,900 the set this up. This is the odd TEPCO this analysis. 2123 02:08:48,930 --> 02:08:51,660 This is just a clip of Palooza you're laying out on me here 2124 02:08:52,020 --> 02:08:53,730 Killip a palooza, this is 2125 02:08:54,660 --> 02:08:57,630 this I didn't realize I think we may have talked about I don't 2126 02:08:57,630 --> 02:09:01,620 remember this specifically. But they're reanalyzing they had an 2127 02:09:01,620 --> 02:09:05,340 independent panel look at the meltdown of the reactors in 2128 02:09:05,340 --> 02:09:10,860 Japan. And by the way, you do I just want to remind some of our 2129 02:09:10,860 --> 02:09:13,320 listeners who were all panicky about these things we're gonna 2130 02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:17,550 blow up Oh, no, there's fake reports that were put out there 2131 02:09:17,550 --> 02:09:20,640 that were supposed to like bite into like, you know, some other 2132 02:09:20,910 --> 02:09:23,970 deconstruction shows might have done the mean like, 2133 02:09:25,290 --> 02:09:27,900 you mean like people getting Geiger counters to check their 2134 02:09:27,900 --> 02:09:29,790 sushi. John, is that what you're talking about? 2135 02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:38,640 Ready now this is this. I did not know. You ready? I did not 2136 02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:40,740 know. I didn't want to talk about this after we hit it. 2137 02:09:40,770 --> 02:09:41,040 Okay. 2138 02:09:41,130 --> 02:09:45,240 And still with news from Japan. The head of Tokyo Electric Power 2139 02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:50,580 companies new independent panel says the company blew it on 2140 02:09:50,580 --> 02:09:54,810 nuclear plant safety. It was the first time the company had 2141 02:09:54,810 --> 02:09:58,710 admitted that last year's Nuclear Crisis was was 2142 02:09:58,740 --> 02:09:59,520 avoidable. 2143 02:10:00,870 --> 02:10:04,650 The operators should have known, if certain things happen, they 2144 02:10:04,650 --> 02:10:08,760 vent. If certain things happen to add sea water, I can assure 2145 02:10:08,760 --> 02:10:12,930 you in the United States, if they had an issue of reactor 2146 02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:16,590 cooling where the core was about to become uncovered, the 2147 02:10:16,590 --> 02:10:19,260 operators would not call the CEO of the company and they 2148 02:10:19,260 --> 02:10:21,990 certainly would not call the president of United States and 2149 02:10:21,990 --> 02:10:23,850 ask could they do that they would do it 2150 02:10:25,470 --> 02:10:29,550 so what he's saying is he didn't come out and out and say it but 2151 02:10:29,820 --> 02:10:34,140 apparently the guys running these reactors that think is 2152 02:10:34,140 --> 02:10:37,410 falling apart and the guy says, What are we going to do? We can 2153 02:10:37,410 --> 02:10:39,810 follow up procedures No, let's call the boss 2154 02:10:40,050 --> 02:10:42,540 well that's exactly how it works. They're in Japan that's 2155 02:10:42,540 --> 02:10:43,500 the whole culture. 2156 02:10:43,770 --> 02:10:47,160 Yeah. So they call the boss and I guess they call the Prime 2157 02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:52,260 Minister somebody the premier I mean, they wouldn't they didn't 2158 02:10:52,290 --> 02:10:56,010 just take care of it. This is really a flaw in certain Asian 2159 02:10:56,010 --> 02:10:59,010 cultures. I may miss this like 2160 02:10:59,100 --> 02:11:01,350 so what I'm not right but what I'm not getting from the report 2161 02:11:01,350 --> 02:11:05,040 is did they get through to the boss or the Premier and what was 2162 02:11:05,040 --> 02:11:05,760 the answer? 2163 02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:09,150 Well, I don't know if they did it. See it sounds to me that the 2164 02:11:09,150 --> 02:11:14,850 guy wasn't home. Well, hey, let it melt down until he gets home. 2165 02:11:14,850 --> 02:11:15,810 Hey, Jenson, 2166 02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:19,230 no one's home man what are we gonna do? I don't know dude. 2167 02:11:19,470 --> 02:11:21,930 Call again called the Prime Minister cell number. 2168 02:11:24,330 --> 02:11:27,690 Puts posted on Twitter man, I don't know we gotta get through. 2169 02:11:28,590 --> 02:11:31,410 So I have one other one. That's a little tidbit that is just 2170 02:11:31,410 --> 02:11:36,840 completely alien. To me. This is something of a long clip. But it 2171 02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:39,930 adds a little piece of a fundamental piece of information 2172 02:11:39,930 --> 02:11:42,810 that I think we need to know on this show. And apparently the 2173 02:11:42,810 --> 02:11:47,880 French especially with Oh lawned are in really intend to be one 2174 02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:50,340 of the players that I don't know. I guess they got this pair 2175 02:11:50,340 --> 02:11:53,070 up their ass. They want to be now one of the players in 2176 02:11:53,070 --> 02:11:53,940 Africa. 2177 02:11:54,510 --> 02:11:57,870 Before we play the clip, can I answer your question? Sure. The 2178 02:11:57,870 --> 02:12:01,440 hair up your ass analogies. An interesting one? Is this 2179 02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:03,960 something that actually has happened to you? Or have you 2180 02:12:04,110 --> 02:12:06,990 witnessed it's just an old phrase, but does it come from in 2181 02:12:06,990 --> 02:12:09,780 the old days that people used to have a hair up their ass? 2182 02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:12,630 I don't know where it why it was even used as a term. 2183 02:12:12,930 --> 02:12:15,900 No, just ask them thought maybe you had an idea? I never heard 2184 02:12:15,900 --> 02:12:18,780 it before. Yeah, but only now that I just think about like, 2185 02:12:18,780 --> 02:12:20,550 wow, you know, is that annoying? 2186 02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:23,220 I didn't really expect to deconstruct the old 2187 02:12:23,220 --> 02:12:26,940 colloquialisms on the show. I mean, I'm gonna give you my 2188 02:12:26,940 --> 02:12:30,690 every time I say one of these old things like cripes. 2189 02:12:30,750 --> 02:12:34,500 Well, no, we thought Yes. We have discussed Cripe we have 2190 02:12:34,500 --> 02:12:38,490 discussed. Get on the stick we've discussed Fiddlesticks we 2191 02:12:38,490 --> 02:12:39,600 discuss all these times. 2192 02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:44,250 I don't say Fiddlesticks. We've discussed it. That don't even 2193 02:12:44,250 --> 02:12:46,110 remember what what was Fiddlesticks what was 2194 02:12:46,650 --> 02:12:50,010 discussed. Your mother wears army boots. Ah, 2195 02:12:50,070 --> 02:12:51,420 that was a good one. Yeah. 2196 02:12:52,230 --> 02:12:55,590 But hair up your ass. I'll look it up when we listen to the clip 2197 02:12:55,650 --> 02:12:58,020 that was supposed to be a celebration of the French 2198 02:12:58,020 --> 02:13:01,230 language 70 heads of state and gathering in the Democratic 2199 02:13:01,230 --> 02:13:04,560 Republic of Congo this Saturday, along with French President 2200 02:13:04,560 --> 02:13:07,170 Francois Oh, lord. But the summit is shrouded in 2201 02:13:07,170 --> 02:13:09,990 controversy earlier this week or launched himself said the 2202 02:13:09,990 --> 02:13:13,470 situation in Congo was unacceptable in terms of human 2203 02:13:13,470 --> 02:13:16,860 rights, democracy and the respect of the opposition, but 2204 02:13:16,860 --> 02:13:21,060 he agreed to attend in an effort to promote democracy in Africa. 2205 02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:24,180 Earlier we spoke to a reporter Nicolas Yama who's covering the 2206 02:13:24,180 --> 02:13:27,840 summit for France and cat. He told us what's the top of the 2207 02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:28,680 agenda today? 2208 02:13:30,270 --> 02:13:32,340 Well, we know that first of all, they're going to talk about the 2209 02:13:32,370 --> 02:13:35,730 crisis situations in the Francophone areas. And first of 2210 02:13:35,730 --> 02:13:38,550 all about Marley and northern Mali, the territory is occupied 2211 02:13:38,700 --> 02:13:41,880 by Islamist forces, they will discuss the possible military 2212 02:13:41,880 --> 02:13:44,760 intervention of a regional force. They will also talk about 2213 02:13:44,790 --> 02:13:48,450 Congo here where in the east of the country, the N 23 rebels are 2214 02:13:48,450 --> 02:13:51,930 opposed to government forces. The UN says that Rwanda supports 2215 02:13:51,930 --> 02:13:55,410 these rebels. Kigali denies the accusations. So here today, the 2216 02:13:55,410 --> 02:13:58,110 Congolese and random delegations will be able to discuss that 2217 02:13:58,110 --> 02:14:00,810 topic. And of course, it's a francophone Summit. So they're 2218 02:14:00,810 --> 02:14:03,480 going to talk about the future of the French language. Today 2219 02:14:03,480 --> 02:14:08,580 French is spoken by 220 million people in 2050 700 million 2220 02:14:08,580 --> 02:14:12,000 people will talk French and most of them will be here in Africa, 2221 02:14:12,570 --> 02:14:14,730 and they will all be singing Swasey enough. 2222 02:14:15,090 --> 02:14:19,260 Did you know that they were going to do 700 million Babel 2223 02:14:19,260 --> 02:14:22,200 gonna be speaking in French and most of them in Africa. 2224 02:14:22,230 --> 02:14:25,350 He was still I believe the official language of politics. 2225 02:14:27,120 --> 02:14:31,560 French it is the it is the Ilia I think it's still the elitist 2226 02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:34,590 language. I think that ended some time back and well not 2227 02:14:34,590 --> 02:14:35,670 according to the French. 2228 02:14:37,620 --> 02:14:39,120 I just thought that was peculiar. 2229 02:14:39,599 --> 02:14:44,669 Well, you know, the French colonialism certainly spread out 2230 02:14:44,669 --> 02:14:47,429 quite a bit. I mean, you talk to any of these people from from 2231 02:14:47,429 --> 02:14:50,759 Africa, they all speak French, most of them 2232 02:14:51,540 --> 02:14:54,540 and then I have the one last thing which is my clip gone bad. 2233 02:14:55,890 --> 02:15:00,480 Polasek clip gone bad. All right. Well 2234 02:15:05,819 --> 02:15:13,349 concrete laws governing workers was that actually broadcast that 2235 02:15:13,349 --> 02:15:14,219 way on RT? 2236 02:15:14,970 --> 02:15:16,470 No, it was a clip gone bad. 2237 02:15:16,769 --> 02:15:24,629 Okay. Wow, she the correct use of the phrase is a have a wild 2238 02:15:24,629 --> 02:15:26,009 hair up your ass 2239 02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:30,420 not just the hair been concatenated Yes, 2240 02:15:30,420 --> 02:15:33,870 it has been a wild hair, which would be a psychological 2241 02:15:34,110 --> 02:15:37,800 irritation. A wild hair dye 2242 02:15:37,800 --> 02:15:40,620 it doesn't. There has to be a better. There has to be an 2243 02:15:40,620 --> 02:15:41,880 etymology that makes sense. 2244 02:15:41,910 --> 02:15:47,580 Well, I'm looking at the etymology and there's 1952 as a 2245 02:15:47,580 --> 02:15:49,350 reference, but 2246 02:15:49,560 --> 02:15:52,800 it was as wild H AI R h a r e. 2247 02:15:53,400 --> 02:16:02,310 H AI R, I believe. You can have a hair across your ass. How 2248 02:16:02,310 --> 02:16:05,190 about you can have a hairy Canary This is that's a good 2249 02:16:05,190 --> 02:16:07,860 one. We should use the hairy Canary line. I never heard it. 2250 02:16:07,920 --> 02:16:11,490 What is it used for? As in a wild hair up your ass? It's just 2251 02:16:11,490 --> 02:16:17,760 another way hairy Canary. Canary Canary. That's where we go hairy 2252 02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:22,650 Canary and we're sticking with it. Well, John, I think it is 2253 02:16:22,650 --> 02:16:26,700 now time since we have everybody listening. I think it is time to 2254 02:16:26,700 --> 02:16:28,320 congratulate the European Union. 2255 02:16:28,320 --> 02:16:30,660 Welcome to the program. This year's Nobel Peace Prize has 2256 02:16:30,660 --> 02:16:33,750 been awarded to the European Union The Nobel Committee so the 2257 02:16:33,750 --> 02:16:37,350 EU deserved the award for its long term role is uniting the 2258 02:16:37,350 --> 02:16:39,210 continent after World War Two. 2259 02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:43,620 Yes, that's right. Yeah. I mean, how? How lame. Is this? 2260 02:16:44,100 --> 02:16:46,710 His business as bad as Obama? I mean, 2261 02:16:48,030 --> 02:16:50,760 yeah, we have a Nobel Peace Prize winner with a kill list. I 2262 02:16:50,760 --> 02:16:54,330 mean, that was already crazy. But now Well, here's the here's 2263 02:16:54,330 --> 02:16:57,390 Burroughs. So he's very happy, bro. So thanks. It's great. I 2264 02:16:57,390 --> 02:16:57,660 have to 2265 02:16:57,660 --> 02:17:02,070 say that when I woke up this morning, I did not expect it to 2266 02:17:02,070 --> 02:17:03,630 be such a good day. 2267 02:17:03,689 --> 02:17:07,049 Because you know Europe is going down in flames. Everything is 2268 02:17:07,049 --> 02:17:09,569 breaking away. But we have a prize. 2269 02:17:10,620 --> 02:17:15,090 It was with great emotion that I received the news of the words 2270 02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:17,460 of nobel peace prize to the European Union. 2271 02:17:18,180 --> 02:17:21,630 European what he said Nobel note Oh, you 2272 02:17:21,630 --> 02:17:22,440 keep saying Nobel 2273 02:17:22,469 --> 02:17:28,229 in and then you pin community hasn't been the fight. Countries 2274 02:17:28,229 --> 02:17:34,829 split by the Cold War. And as made it around the values of 2275 02:17:34,829 --> 02:17:39,959 respect for human dignity, freedom, democracy, justice, the 2276 02:17:39,959 --> 02:17:43,079 rule of law and respect for human rights 2277 02:17:43,170 --> 02:17:46,680 and just wait until we get the police on the cyber networks. It 2278 02:17:46,680 --> 02:17:51,930 will be great. Oh, sand in your badge is another one that's 2279 02:17:51,930 --> 02:17:56,130 being recommended here. So here is of course our friend Nigel 2280 02:17:56,130 --> 02:17:59,670 Farage, who pretty much expresses the same sentiments we 2281 02:17:59,670 --> 02:18:03,870 have on the best podcast in the universe about this ludicrous, 2282 02:18:04,020 --> 02:18:11,160 ridiculous, elite megalomaniac inspired idea and degradation of 2283 02:18:11,160 --> 02:18:15,390 the entire concept of any Nobel Prize by handing it to the 2284 02:18:15,390 --> 02:18:17,730 European Union rife with wars 2285 02:18:17,730 --> 02:18:20,490 get more on that top story, the Nobel Peace Prize being awarded 2286 02:18:20,490 --> 02:18:21,180 to them please pay 2287 02:18:21,180 --> 02:18:26,100 attention to the BBC shield trying to confront Nigel Farraj 2288 02:18:26,100 --> 02:18:27,120 about this European 2289 02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:29,820 Union. Joining us live now from Central young London is the 2290 02:18:29,820 --> 02:18:33,720 leader of the UK Independence Party, Nigel Farage, Mr. Farage, 2291 02:18:33,900 --> 02:18:37,440 welcome to BBC World News. So you've been phoning Josie 2292 02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:39,900 Manuel, but also to say congratulations, well done. 2293 02:18:41,879 --> 02:18:44,369 You are so funny. NEWSMAN. 2294 02:18:44,580 --> 02:18:46,830 I think the whole thing is nonsense. I mean, if anybody is 2295 02:18:46,830 --> 02:18:50,280 seriously suggesting that a democratic stable postwar 2296 02:18:50,280 --> 02:18:52,740 Germany would have invaded France, again, with the 2297 02:18:52,740 --> 02:18:55,650 intention of smashing it to smithereens, I would suggest 2298 02:18:55,770 --> 02:18:58,290 there misreading history. I don't believe there was any 2299 02:18:58,290 --> 02:19:03,180 prospect of war happening in Western Europe after 1945. And 2300 02:19:03,180 --> 02:19:07,380 arguably, projects that take different nation states, force 2301 02:19:07,380 --> 02:19:10,320 them together, under a new identity, a new flag and a new 2302 02:19:10,320 --> 02:19:13,620 anthem. If they do it without the consent of the peoples, far 2303 02:19:13,620 --> 02:19:16,950 from creating peace, this can actually create war, as 2304 02:19:16,950 --> 02:19:21,390 Yugoslavia has showed us. So I'm baffled by this prize, as I 2305 02:19:21,390 --> 02:19:24,300 think the viewers will be because the last big European 2306 02:19:24,300 --> 02:19:27,300 story was Angela Merkel going to Athens. And there we saw 2307 02:19:27,390 --> 02:19:31,920 swastikas being flown and Europe now being dominated by grief, 2308 02:19:31,950 --> 02:19:35,100 violence and division. So you've completely omitted or you've 2309 02:19:35,100 --> 02:19:38,160 forgotten what the Cold War was about them? Yes, the Cold War 2310 02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:42,420 was about NATO, NATO and the nuclear deterrent, the fact we 2311 02:19:42,420 --> 02:19:45,630 had the fact the Russians didn't invade us had absolutely nothing 2312 02:19:45,630 --> 02:19:48,450 to do with the European Union, which after all, wasn't actually 2313 02:19:48,450 --> 02:19:52,140 fully created until 1992. So you're saying the European Union 2314 02:19:52,140 --> 02:19:55,140 now is not about freedom. It's not about law. It's not about 2315 02:19:55,140 --> 02:19:57,960 human rights. It's not about reconciliation. It's about the 2316 02:19:57,960 --> 02:20:01,860 destruction of nation state. democracy. mr. Barroso was 2317 02:20:01,860 --> 02:20:05,790 perfectly clear one month ago in Strasburg national democracy has 2318 02:20:05,790 --> 02:20:09,750 to go it has it has it has to be transferred up to a European 2319 02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:13,440 level and that is being done without consent and far from 2320 02:20:13,440 --> 02:20:15,750 making the peoples of Europe love each other. What has 2321 02:20:15,750 --> 02:20:19,740 actually happened is the Euro zone has divided Europe north to 2322 02:20:19,740 --> 02:20:23,940 south and our our increasing growing emulators and violence 2323 02:20:23,940 --> 02:20:27,210 on the streets We are headed in a very bad and I think dangerous 2324 02:20:27,210 --> 02:20:28,950 direction you be 2325 02:20:30,510 --> 02:20:33,570 this douchebag from the BBC cheese 2326 02:20:33,600 --> 02:20:36,960 this this just in Jerry Sandusky is one the Think of the children 2327 02:20:36,960 --> 02:20:43,320 award. Yeah, kids builders had a good one. He said what's next 2328 02:20:43,380 --> 02:20:48,420 Herman Van Rompuy wins an Oscar. Like funny enough. The 2329 02:20:48,450 --> 02:20:50,010 wasn't a good one. It wasn't funny. 2330 02:20:50,040 --> 02:20:52,290 I'd like that one. I liked it when it came out. You didn't 2331 02:20:52,290 --> 02:20:52,830 like that one? 2332 02:20:53,400 --> 02:20:54,990 No, it wasn't nominated. 2333 02:20:58,590 --> 02:21:06,420 Was it? Iran has they're creating the Islamic Nobel 2334 02:21:06,420 --> 02:21:11,490 Prize. They figured thing is now so devalued. Yeah. Oh, I missed 2335 02:21:11,490 --> 02:21:15,780 this one. Yeah, Iran, which has themselves only one Nobel Prize 2336 02:21:15,780 --> 02:21:19,470 Laureate announced the inception of a rival award intended solely 2337 02:21:19,470 --> 02:21:24,360 for outstanding scientists of the Islamic world. That's great. 2338 02:21:24,390 --> 02:21:26,190 That's very smart. But they shouldn't just do it for the 2339 02:21:26,190 --> 02:21:33,780 Islamic world. It'll be the great Prophet world prize. Can't 2340 02:21:33,780 --> 02:21:35,460 wait, this would be a fun ceremony. 2341 02:21:39,720 --> 02:21:41,790 There's a million jokes in there. I can't come up with one. 2342 02:21:41,790 --> 02:21:42,240 Yeah. 2343 02:21:42,570 --> 02:21:48,840 But they're in there. They're in there for sure. Let's just talk 2344 02:21:48,840 --> 02:21:52,230 about this for one second. But why did they do this? 2345 02:21:52,800 --> 02:21:55,020 Well, there's a couple of factors here. One, you have to 2346 02:21:55,020 --> 02:22:00,210 remember, the country that does the Nobel Peace Prize is not the 2347 02:22:00,210 --> 02:22:03,570 same country that does the Nobel Prize for Literature and 2348 02:22:03,570 --> 02:22:06,930 chemistry. And all the rest is a different award altogether. And 2349 02:22:06,930 --> 02:22:11,940 it is done out of Norway, as opposed to the Nobel Prizes, 2350 02:22:11,940 --> 02:22:16,050 which are done out of Sweden. And Norway, ironically enough, 2351 02:22:16,050 --> 02:22:19,050 is not part of the European Union. They stayed out. 2352 02:22:20,340 --> 02:22:24,240 Ah, that's interesting. So I 2353 02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:27,330 thought that Yeah, I thought that little, like, we're not in 2354 02:22:27,330 --> 02:22:30,090 it. But you guys can hear we'll give you an award Shut up. Maybe 2355 02:22:30,090 --> 02:22:32,700 they were trying to buy him off or something. I have no idea. 2356 02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:33,930 Wow, 2357 02:22:33,960 --> 02:22:38,790 interesting. Maybe it was just poking their eye out. It's like, 2358 02:22:39,600 --> 02:22:42,930 we're here. We're outside of that whole debacle. I know, I'm 2359 02:22:42,930 --> 02:22:46,500 funny. Let's kick sand in their face and give them the Peace 2360 02:22:46,500 --> 02:22:47,400 Prize Award. 2361 02:22:47,940 --> 02:22:52,200 Right? There's that element does exist in the award system, all 2362 02:22:52,200 --> 02:22:56,580 awards system, since I've been a judge in different awards. And 2363 02:22:56,850 --> 02:23:00,330 every once in a while there's a political thing that takes place 2364 02:23:00,330 --> 02:23:05,250 when you decide between one A or B, which are both deserving. And 2365 02:23:05,250 --> 02:23:08,640 you'll pick one, or the group will pick one or somebody will 2366 02:23:08,640 --> 02:23:11,580 boss everybody into picking the one that will cause more 2367 02:23:11,580 --> 02:23:15,330 controversy, or it will be the one that just throw sand in the 2368 02:23:15,330 --> 02:23:17,940 face kind of thing. I mean, there's that does happen. So 2369 02:23:17,940 --> 02:23:19,080 what drives me? Can 2370 02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:21,210 you give me a specific example? I mean, 2371 02:23:21,390 --> 02:23:27,120 yeah, there was a computer press award some time back. And this 2372 02:23:27,120 --> 02:23:30,750 was in the 80s. And I was a judge and it was a code judge, 2373 02:23:30,750 --> 02:23:34,920 actually, with William William Randolph Hearst, the third. And 2374 02:23:34,920 --> 02:23:40,440 I believe was Bill, Willie. So the two of us were picking best 2375 02:23:40,440 --> 02:23:44,700 computer magazine. I believe it was a 1985 I think set the 2376 02:23:44,700 --> 02:23:48,540 stage. Are you on his yacht? He doesn't have a yacht. He does 2377 02:23:48,540 --> 02:23:51,090 get into time he's driving around a Honda Civic. But 2378 02:23:51,090 --> 02:23:54,000 anyway, and it was one of those Honda sevens you can find the 2379 02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:57,960 old civics if anybody knows this, these old civics they had 2380 02:23:57,990 --> 02:24:01,830 a they were all right hand drive because in Japan, they're on the 2381 02:24:01,830 --> 02:24:03,930 right hand side of the road. So they make the left hand drive 2382 02:24:03,930 --> 02:24:06,810 was special for the United States and other countries. But 2383 02:24:06,810 --> 02:24:09,660 the way they did those old civics they still had the gears 2384 02:24:09,660 --> 02:24:13,860 for the right hand drive stuff on the in the passenger side. So 2385 02:24:13,860 --> 02:24:18,510 there was a little bump at the top of the of the floor panel 2386 02:24:18,660 --> 02:24:21,600 that you could push down and stop the car from the driver's 2387 02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:21,930 side. 2388 02:24:21,990 --> 02:24:25,800 Wait a minute, these cars had they'd have a clutch as well. 2389 02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:28,590 No, there was no clutch but yeah, there might have been but 2390 02:24:28,590 --> 02:24:30,600 there was the there was the brake that was sticking out 2391 02:24:30,630 --> 02:24:33,660 really. So you can just so you could never got in one of these 2392 02:24:33,660 --> 02:24:36,810 cars that always feel around for the bump, and then I slam on the 2393 02:24:36,810 --> 02:24:39,900 brakes. That would drive that what the hell's wrong with my 2394 02:24:39,900 --> 02:24:40,500 car? 2395 02:24:41,100 --> 02:24:46,140 Really, this? Okay, so so I'm just like you are full of jokes, 2396 02:24:46,140 --> 02:24:46,800 and you'd have 2397 02:24:47,580 --> 02:24:50,580 to get a million of them. So anyway, so we came down to Byte 2398 02:24:50,580 --> 02:24:55,050 magazine and computer currents, which was a throwaway, free, 2399 02:24:55,770 --> 02:24:59,910 newsprint magazine, and we just thought it would be so funny to 2400 02:24:59,910 --> 02:25:04,050 go If it's computer currents, as opposed to a magazine, which is 2401 02:25:04,050 --> 02:25:07,470 like a big, you know, big fat magazine, this is like a local 2402 02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:10,680 local magazine couldn't resist. 2403 02:25:10,860 --> 02:25:14,400 Oh, man. And that was that's the only example you have. I'm sure. 2404 02:25:15,300 --> 02:25:17,910 I'm just not going to tell you all the examples. throw a brick 2405 02:25:17,910 --> 02:25:18,720 through the window somewhere. 2406 02:25:19,800 --> 02:25:22,500 So someone's pissed because I didn't get some hokey computer 2407 02:25:22,500 --> 02:25:23,400 press award. 2408 02:25:26,700 --> 02:25:29,370 Generally speaking, I played it straight, but there was always a 2409 02:25:29,370 --> 02:25:32,670 consideration, like, who would get the most benefit from the 2410 02:25:32,670 --> 02:25:37,980 award? Do these guys need another award? Wow. You know, 2411 02:25:37,980 --> 02:25:41,130 that kind of thing? That's very common. Wow. Now when you're in 2412 02:25:41,130 --> 02:25:43,260 meetings, if you're like an editorial system with a you 2413 02:25:43,260 --> 02:25:47,220 know, at the top 100 people and you sit around a table, 2414 02:25:47,250 --> 02:25:50,310 generally speaking, just the editorial staff, and somebody 2415 02:25:50,340 --> 02:25:52,470 they just throw out names and this I think you should be 2416 02:25:52,470 --> 02:25:57,810 number 30. Oh, what about sewing sew up? To 15? What about what's 2417 02:25:57,810 --> 02:26:00,690 her name? Oh, yeah, let's put her up to number two. But don't 2418 02:26:00,690 --> 02:26:03,060 put her number one because she's number one, two. They won't be 2419 02:26:03,060 --> 02:26:05,130 good. Let's put somebody else that she hates. Number one. 2420 02:26:05,130 --> 02:26:06,420 Okay. But this person 2421 02:26:06,660 --> 02:26:09,810 so spiteful or not so spiteful and mean 2422 02:26:09,810 --> 02:26:12,750 wow. As what you do when you're in the business so 2423 02:26:12,750 --> 02:26:16,380 you think that goes on at the Oscars and the Country Music 2424 02:26:16,380 --> 02:26:17,820 Awards and all that stuff? 2425 02:26:17,850 --> 02:26:24,060 Yeah, of course. All awards and all this are bull crap. Do you 2426 02:26:24,090 --> 02:26:27,900 want 100 Most influencers Come on? I mean, you know, when they 2427 02:26:27,900 --> 02:26:31,140 have the meeting that guy says will disappear. Oh, really? This 2428 02:26:31,140 --> 02:26:34,440 this guy off? Let's put let's put him number eight and then 2429 02:26:34,440 --> 02:26:35,820 put so and so number seven. 2430 02:26:36,150 --> 02:26:39,570 I know that even happens with the with what they do the riches 2431 02:26:39,570 --> 02:26:43,440 list. I know, I know that they're totally making that up. 2432 02:26:43,560 --> 02:26:45,960 Because in Holland, when I actually had a lot of money, 2433 02:26:46,890 --> 02:26:49,350 they would put me on a list and I'd be like, he's got 50 2434 02:26:49,350 --> 02:26:54,570 million. I'd be like, I wish they were just they just make up 2435 02:26:54,570 --> 02:26:58,860 numbers. And then they actually would have the audacity to say, 2436 02:26:59,310 --> 02:27:02,070 well, you know, you could always just open your accounting to us 2437 02:27:02,070 --> 02:27:06,420 so we can take a look at it for Yeah, cuz I would always I 2438 02:27:06,420 --> 02:27:08,580 didn't want to be on your stupid list. I don't have that kind of 2439 02:27:08,580 --> 02:27:12,150 money. I never did. But they would just put you on the list 2440 02:27:12,150 --> 02:27:15,330 just to you know, to draw you in, I guess. I don't know. You 2441 02:27:15,330 --> 02:27:20,520 know, it's all it's all bull crap in general. All prices 2442 02:27:20,520 --> 02:27:23,070 bullcrap. The only thing that's not bull crap is this program 2443 02:27:23,070 --> 02:27:23,610 right here. 2444 02:27:25,770 --> 02:27:27,960 This there's some truth to that. Do you remember the first time 2445 02:27:27,960 --> 02:27:32,070 we met John? And I hate to be revealing all this? inside 2446 02:27:32,070 --> 02:27:34,740 information hitting Molly. But I think you have to know this 2447 02:27:34,740 --> 02:27:35,490 donations 2448 02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:39,420 are soaring through the roof as we speak. Because this is this 2449 02:27:39,420 --> 02:27:43,800 is information people just don't get. So I think it's very smart. 2450 02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:44,400 You did this? 2451 02:27:45,360 --> 02:27:48,120 We met in 1993. At CNET 2452 02:27:48,150 --> 02:27:51,120 That's correct. And what was the occasion had seen it. But you 2453 02:27:51,120 --> 02:27:54,750 were auditioning to be the host of something to tab the main 2454 02:27:54,750 --> 02:27:58,020 host, John. By Richard Hart. 2455 02:27:58,020 --> 02:28:02,160 No, no. Incorrect. I'm sorry. We were doing it. No, that's 2456 02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:05,010 exactly right. No. Incorrect. I'll 2457 02:28:05,010 --> 02:28:09,060 do it again. It was the pilot weekend we were shooting the 2458 02:28:09,060 --> 02:28:14,610 pilots. I refused the job. Okay. I refused the job because they 2459 02:28:14,610 --> 02:28:15,540 weren't they saw you 2460 02:28:15,540 --> 02:28:20,010 standing up there reading lines. That was the pilot. It was the 2461 02:28:20,010 --> 02:28:22,980 pilot weekend. And by the way, you're a handsome young man. 2462 02:28:23,370 --> 02:28:25,050 So what show were you doing? 2463 02:28:25,620 --> 02:28:28,890 What was the show? No, they had me doing some. Yeah, we had a 2464 02:28:28,890 --> 02:28:29,790 couple of differences 2465 02:28:29,790 --> 02:28:32,940 was the name. What was the name of the show? The discussion 2466 02:28:32,940 --> 02:28:33,390 show? 2467 02:28:33,960 --> 02:28:34,920 Yeah, the discussion? 2468 02:28:34,950 --> 02:28:35,670 Was it called? 2469 02:28:35,970 --> 02:28:38,220 I don't remember. Because I found 2470 02:28:38,220 --> 02:28:42,870 yesterday. In cleaning up we so I did two things yesterday. One 2471 02:28:42,870 --> 02:28:47,640 is a very, very unhappy moment on Friday. very unhappy moment. 2472 02:28:47,640 --> 02:28:50,880 I did my taxes. Because you know, of course, is it Monday or 2473 02:28:50,880 --> 02:28:54,660 Tuesday when you actually have to send the check. Yes. And we 2474 02:28:54,660 --> 02:28:58,830 don't get no refunds around here. So I'm sure Mimi does your 2475 02:28:58,830 --> 02:29:00,900 taxes. Right? She took care of that for you guys. 2476 02:29:01,350 --> 02:29:03,360 That's being finished as we speak essay, 2477 02:29:03,390 --> 02:29:07,110 so I did it. unhappy moment. And I'm like, you know, I'm so 2478 02:29:07,110 --> 02:29:10,740 pissed off. Why don't I just continue and I'll clean out the 2479 02:29:10,740 --> 02:29:15,000 entire garage, which included 10 boxes of crap that were 2480 02:29:15,810 --> 02:29:20,460 unceremoniously packed by my ex wife and shipped off to La which 2481 02:29:20,460 --> 02:29:24,000 means that literally, imagine a box and just throwing everything 2482 02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:26,610 in there just like a dumping trash can. 2483 02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:29,130 Sounds exactly my office. Right. 2484 02:29:29,820 --> 02:29:35,670 And I cleaned up the studio. And I found the the entire pilot 2485 02:29:35,670 --> 02:29:38,550 tape of that whole CNET weekend because that was never 2486 02:29:38,550 --> 02:29:41,880 broadcast. That was that way. We were just doing a pilot to sell 2487 02:29:41,880 --> 02:29:45,030 to cable stations, because CNET was supposed to be a cable 2488 02:29:45,030 --> 02:29:50,340 channel before it became an Internet network. And I have the 2489 02:29:50,340 --> 02:29:51,780 pilot of that show that you did. 2490 02:29:52,259 --> 02:29:54,869 Really? Can you make a dub for me? 2491 02:29:56,940 --> 02:30:00,240 If I could, even if I can even find the machine to play it Um, 2492 02:30:01,140 --> 02:30:03,600 you have probably a VHS Matic. No, it's 2493 02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:07,350 a VHS. It's just I don't have a VHS player. Oh, I do you have a 2494 02:30:07,350 --> 02:30:09,540 VHS player that I think was called? No, but I think it was 2495 02:30:09,540 --> 02:30:14,670 called The Insiders or something like that maybe. Yep. And so I 2496 02:30:14,670 --> 02:30:18,360 do want to reiterate, they offered me the job. I was doing 2497 02:30:18,360 --> 02:30:21,630 it with Dr. Mae Jemison, the astronaut you'll recall, 2498 02:30:21,630 --> 02:30:25,290 beautiful black woman. Remember, you don't remember I can 2499 02:30:25,290 --> 02:30:27,330 barely remember what time I got up. 2500 02:30:29,430 --> 02:30:34,140 And they offered me like some bullcrap salary and 18 million 2501 02:30:34,140 --> 02:30:41,280 shares of stock. And I was like, Well, how much? Do you have 2502 02:30:41,280 --> 02:30:43,860 outstanding? They wouldn't tell me I'm like, well, then how? 2503 02:30:43,950 --> 02:30:46,320 There's no good. It's not good. Tell me how many shares are 2504 02:30:46,320 --> 02:30:48,870 outstanding? I don't know what you're giving me. And they want 2505 02:30:48,870 --> 02:30:54,120 me to move to San Francisco. Interesting tidbit. I had 2506 02:30:54,120 --> 02:30:57,450 registered, I registered for them on the spot that day that 2507 02:30:57,450 --> 02:31:02,790 weekend. cnet.com. And I hosted their email for at least six 2508 02:31:02,790 --> 02:31:03,420 months. 2509 02:31:05,190 --> 02:31:07,140 Because they had that with MTV to 2510 02:31:07,410 --> 02:31:11,310 Yeah, well, but MTV I set up a server but this is just like you 2511 02:31:11,340 --> 02:31:14,160 I remember telling them Kevin Wendell memory was sitting there 2512 02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:18,450 and Halsey minor and I said, Guys, this needs to be a 2513 02:31:18,450 --> 02:31:22,200 computer thing. This is this is a this is a whole computer. This 2514 02:31:22,200 --> 02:31:25,320 cable thing. Great idea. That's not what your future is. In 2515 02:31:25,320 --> 02:31:31,050 fact, do you have a website? No. Okay, we have prodigy. No, no, 2516 02:31:31,050 --> 02:31:36,090 no, no look, in fact, I'm not kidding. I used to forward Kevin 2517 02:31:36,090 --> 02:31:40,290 Wendell and Halsey minors email to their prodigy account. And I 2518 02:31:40,290 --> 02:31:44,730 registered cnet.com on the spot and set up email aliases so that 2519 02:31:44,730 --> 02:31:47,310 it would go to their to their prodigy email 2520 02:31:48,720 --> 02:31:52,020 again ahead of your time, man, let's with this show. 2521 02:31:52,050 --> 02:31:54,600 Look where it got me nowhere. 2522 02:31:54,990 --> 02:31:57,120 That's the problem with being that ahead of you. You're too 2523 02:31:57,120 --> 02:31:57,870 far ahead. 2524 02:31:57,900 --> 02:32:01,050 But that does qualify me as a visionary. Yeah, I 2525 02:32:01,050 --> 02:32:09,060 guess. Well, that's interesting. Joining me main host of the 2526 02:32:09,060 --> 02:32:10,950 whole network No, 2527 02:32:12,090 --> 02:32:16,350 no, that they were offering me a job as a host. I don't know if 2528 02:32:16,350 --> 02:32:19,320 it was the main host. I think it was the main host but I said I 2529 02:32:19,320 --> 02:32:22,440 wasn't interested because they were gonna pay just not enough 2530 02:32:22,440 --> 02:32:25,830 money to move out there. Move my whole family. No security with 2531 02:32:25,830 --> 02:32:28,680 his bullcrap fly by night operation. That's some talk 2532 02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:28,950 show. 2533 02:32:29,190 --> 02:32:31,440 I didn't have much faith in a talk show with some 2534 02:32:31,470 --> 02:32:34,770 some good white haired guy who was all grouchy and like this is 2535 02:32:34,770 --> 02:32:35,940 good. This is going to fail. 2536 02:32:38,280 --> 02:32:40,170 I'm just kidding. Man. I love you. You know that. 2537 02:32:42,360 --> 02:32:45,750 wouldn't know what to do without you wouldn't know what to do 2538 02:32:45,750 --> 02:32:49,920 without being able to talk with you at least twice a week? I'd 2539 02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:51,060 probably be divorced again. 2540 02:32:51,780 --> 02:32:54,690 Yeah, it could be but I'll tell you this would plan A into show 2541 02:32:54,690 --> 02:32:58,290 clip after this is over. Okay. UK and Russia and the Merchant 2542 02:32:58,290 --> 02:33:01,440 Marines. Apparently the Russians want to give some old Merchant 2543 02:33:01,440 --> 02:33:04,080 Marines that were in the British Navy, a British merchant 2544 02:33:04,080 --> 02:33:07,830 marines, who went all through the icebergs to drop off 2545 02:33:07,830 --> 02:33:10,710 supplies and award in the British government. Right? 2546 02:33:10,860 --> 02:33:13,350 Mainly because of that one douchebag guy that we keep 2547 02:33:13,350 --> 02:33:16,200 pointing out. The Foreign Secretary. 2548 02:33:16,230 --> 02:33:19,560 Oh, Hague, William Hague. Yeah. Hey, hey, now. 2549 02:33:20,040 --> 02:33:25,770 You can't do it. You can't have the award screw. Yeah. Okay, so 2550 02:33:25,770 --> 02:33:27,660 big scandal. And 2551 02:33:27,690 --> 02:33:31,530 please, everybody, enjoy your weekend. Remember us as you 2552 02:33:33,030 --> 02:33:37,290 think about what you want to spend your valuable assets on if 2553 02:33:37,290 --> 02:33:41,190 you felt this program was valuable. dvorak.org/na. I am 2554 02:33:41,190 --> 02:33:44,190 here in the capital of the drone Star State Austin, Texas in the 2555 02:33:44,190 --> 02:33:45,900 morning, everybody. My name is Adam curry, 2556 02:33:46,500 --> 02:33:49,290 and from Northern Silicon Valley. And let me look outside 2557 02:33:49,290 --> 02:33:52,650 for a second. Yep, still foggy. I'm John C. Dvorak. We 2558 02:33:52,650 --> 02:33:57,240 will be back again on Thursday, right here on no agenda. 2559 02:34:03,960 --> 02:34:08,430 To definitely fulfill our bubble have certain deaf humming, a 2560 02:34:08,430 --> 02:34:12,990 temperature was well, well, below zero. I mean, I was 18 2561 02:34:12,990 --> 02:34:18,480 years of age 18 years of age, going up to Russia and enduring 2562 02:34:18,480 --> 02:34:21,720 all that power chips and whatever. But we've done it real 2563 02:34:21,720 --> 02:34:24,630 good out. Because the job had to be done. 2564 02:34:25,199 --> 02:34:29,399 John stories and memories are among the most harrowing of the 2565 02:34:29,399 --> 02:34:33,149 war. To the Russians. It was more than just supplies. There 2566 02:34:33,149 --> 02:34:36,959 was psychological support, contributing hugely to the war 2567 02:34:36,959 --> 02:34:40,769 efforts. That's why in April, the Russian President awarded 2568 02:34:40,769 --> 02:34:44,489 the issue of metal to the allies who taken part in the convoy 2569 02:34:44,489 --> 02:34:48,929 missions. But Incredibly, the British government's blocking 2570 02:34:48,929 --> 02:34:52,499 Russia from rewarding British veterans, for their valor, 2571 02:34:53,039 --> 02:34:57,479 veteran of the Arctic convoys in recognition of your outstanding 2572 02:34:57,479 --> 02:35:01,169 contribution into our allied corps. operation due to World 2573 02:35:01,169 --> 02:35:06,299 War Two, that discretionary medicine is attacked for with by 2574 02:35:06,299 --> 02:35:11,489 apparently, unless the British government sanctions it is a non 2575 02:35:11,489 --> 02:35:16,319 starter, which I think unforgivable, why 2576 02:35:16,620 --> 02:35:20,040 the Foreign Office says it's against the rules in order for 2577 02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:23,340 permission to be given for an award to be accepted. There has 2578 02:35:23,340 --> 02:35:26,880 to be a specific service to the country concerned. And that 2579 02:35:26,880 --> 02:35:30,960 service should have taken place within the previous five years. 2580 02:35:31,350 --> 02:35:33,900 Jon's wife says that's ridiculous. 2581 02:35:33,930 --> 02:35:38,280 They're all late 80s, early 90s. Some of them What on earth are 2582 02:35:38,280 --> 02:35:42,360 they supposed to do over the last five years? They're still 2583 02:35:42,360 --> 02:35:47,220 bred men of what they were during the war. It never leaves 2584 02:35:47,220 --> 02:35:52,110 them. So why are they being penalized and not being given 2585 02:35:52,110 --> 02:35:55,800 this middle? I think it's disgraceful. absolutely 2586 02:35:55,800 --> 02:35:56,730 disgraceful. 2587 02:35:56,850 --> 02:36:01,620 Turn off your television. Wow. And you can always follow me on 2588 02:36:01,620 --> 02:36:09,900 Twitter at the best.org/n A