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Oh, yeah. She was like a cartoon. Adam Curry. It's

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Thursday, October 15, 2026. This is your award-winning Kimo Nation

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Media Assassination Episode 1912. This is No Agenda. Coming to

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you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, once

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again in Fredericksburg, Texas. It is time for another No

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Agenda with another guest co-host, this time in the studio.

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He's here for the second time. His name is Matt

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Long, and we will welcome him in 96 seconds from

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now. Stand by. We'll be right back. Ladies and gentlemen,

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from the Texas Hill Country, by way of 1776, we're

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going to be A lightening - No, no. back to

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show the tackles. say we don't love you Matt oh

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man I'm telling you what that that's that was amazing

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I will have to go home and play it at

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half speed to understand the lyrics. To understand the lyrics.

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To understand the lyrics. To understand the lyrics. To understand

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the lyrics. To understand the lyrics. Yeah, I know. Yeah,

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you know, Led Zeppelin always, you know, sang their songs

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slowly. So I could never get into that genre of

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music where you had more than, you know, two words

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in five seconds. Let me put some honor on Matt's

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name. Matt Long. Matt Long is the host of the

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Matt Long Show weekdays on Hill Country Patriot FM. What

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is the frequency of that? 104.3 and 102.1. Yeah, I

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listen online, man. I stream it. Of course. Because whenever

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I listen to it here over the air, it melds

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in with some other station. What is that other station?

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Is that from Bernie or somewhere? Well, if it's in

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the morning, it's Atmospheric, and it's one of the Mexican

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stations. Yeah, that's what it is. It's the Mexican stations,

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and they just… Just ride over the top of us

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on a regular basis. So Matt does his show from

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a shipping container at Hill Patriot FM, which is love.

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I mean, I just love that setup. I've been on

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the show several times and, you know, recently coming on

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Monday mornings to talk about stuff. Although, luckily, you've upgraded

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to a clean feed, which is nice. It's really good.

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I have. I've impressed everybody at the station with clean

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feed. And so they're all, someone even thought I had

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you in the studio last time you were on. There

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you go. It probably sounded better. It probably did. Yeah,

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Noah and I are studio. But, you know, I'd like

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to say something to our producers. You know, last time

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I was, the first time I was the No Agenda

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co-host here, I looked at my numbers And I don't

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look at my numbers on my podcast Rarely The Matt

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Long Show It's a daily radio program I take out

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all the commercials And put in a little 15 second

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bump in there And uh And so, yeah, you get

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to hear me say, we'll be right back after this

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short break. Bump, bump, bump. You know? And so anyway,

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I checked out my numbers that day after I got

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back from the studio here. And... They had jumped significantly,

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like a bunch. And so I figured, well, okay, I'll

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get a nice little one-time bump. Let's see what happens.

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Well, I've been watching it now for four weeks. It

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kept that big bump for about a week, and then

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it went down a little bit, but it's studied off.

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Beautiful. And so all of you who came over from

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No Agenda were interested in the Christian Texas politics. That's

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it. No, those got to be Texans. That's it. Adam,

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they got to be Texans coming over there. I mean,

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if you're from New Jersey, what do you care about

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Texas politics? Hey, hey, easy on. Jersey okay I lived

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there for 12 years Jersey boys is real man careful

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we'll have to take you out back okay Texas boy

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so I just wanted to say thank you and also

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the art I don't think anybody I don't think everybody's

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anybody's ever created a piece of art for me like

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that like the album what do you call it yeah

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the album art the album art well every one that

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had my name on it um i printed uh had

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a four by four glossy print made in fact i

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have them here there's nine of them oh and uh

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and and then i made out of my four favorites

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i made a 16 by 16 poster oh wow And

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so – but my goal is to – I'd love

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to get a signature on these works of art. Oh,

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from the artists themselves. From the artists themselves. So I'm

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going to – I mean it may be impossible. I

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don't know. Maybe one or two of them will show

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up at the No Agenda meetup. This was going to

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be my next honor – honorific to throw on your

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name here, which is Matt and his beautiful wife, Gail.

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I would just say Gail and then Matt. Let's just

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put it in the right order. Yeah. I have organized

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the Fredericksburg No Agenda Meetup since inception at Bar 1776.

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That's J6 or Jenny's place. And we got another one

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coming up this Saturday. Excited about it. I'll be running

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a little late. I have two speaking engagements this Saturday.

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Are you speaking as Matt or as Ben? Both. Okay.

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Let me just set it up, Matt. Okay. For those

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of you who missed it the last time, Matt is...

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is I would say state famous, but probably world famous

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for his – Reenactment? Reenactment is the right word, yes,

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of Benjamin Franklin. Matt knows more about Benjamin Franklin than

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anybody I've ever met. And he looks – when he

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gets into his wig and his spectacles and his outfits

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– It's my hair. Oh, that's right. I straightened my

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hair. You just straightened your hair, right. That's right. And

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shaved my headline back. Listen, this is dedication. You're dedicated,

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man. Yeah, dedicated. He puts the suit on. He's got

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the shoes with the buckles. And you got a cane,

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too? Oh, I've got the gold cap cane. You got

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the cane. And you go to the Capitol in Austin.

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And you walk around and you give long-term care. lawmakers

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crap. You're like, hey, you're unconstitutional. Get out of here.

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You whack them with the cane. That's right. Absolutely. So

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you did one as you and one as Ben? Yeah.

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Blessed Saturday morning is the men's prayer group at Bridge,

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and I'm going to be speaking to them as Matt.

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When is it? This Saturday. Is that this Saturday? It's

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a prayer group, not just a church. Oh, not the

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regular men's? The men's group. No, we have a Saturday,

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once a month, second Saturday men's prayer group. That Jeff

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McLarty puts on. I didn't know that. And so, yeah,

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it's really good. Do I need a secret handshake or

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decoder ring? No, you just need to show up, get

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on the list. And I think it's the second Saturday.

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Is this the second Saturday of the month? You're on

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the list. Okay. Yeah, it will be the second. And

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then I'm going out to Patriot Academy for – the

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Boy Scouts what's the replacement group for the Boy Scouts

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scouts I think is young life or boys life or

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so anyway there's a yeah there is a so there's

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no longer Boy Scouts in the now there is Boy

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Scouts of America includes girls which is whatever whatever whatever

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a scientist who organized a counter scout group, and it's

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called Boys Life or something like that. You should probably

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know before you go talk to them. Before I go,

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yes. Prep a little. I've got it in my notes

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here, but that's going to be out at Patriot Academy,

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and yes, I'll be going in my – Full garb

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out there to talk to young men and boys out

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there, and that's early afternoon. All right. So, yeah, it'll

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be a busy day. So maybe when I get to

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the meetup, I may just sit quietly in a corner.

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My tongues and lips may just be worn out. But

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you'll be dressed as Ben? Ben? I don't know. Actually,

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yes. That might be kind of cool. It is because

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a picture with Benjamin Franklin. That's awesome. All right, he'll

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be there. I do autographs for five bucks. That's not

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true. He does them for free. How many people are

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coming? Do you know? To the meetup? Yeah. I do

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not know. I never checked the RSVPs. Okay. All right.

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the others. We usually have, what, 30 to 40 to

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come and go. I want to encourage people to spend

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both nights this weekend. Yeah, that would be good for

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Jenny, too. It would really help. She could really use

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some of that business. And my offer still stands that

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if you stay both nights, you will have some of

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my jellies and jams at your breakfast. Matt brought me

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some. Yeah, you brought me another jar. This was peach.

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good. good and i say tina have some she's like

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it's all sugar i said well of course that's how

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you make it what do you expect not just peach

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there's sugar in there yeah that's the whole point like

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i've i got my sourdough you know i got my

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butter and then like oh yeah it's so good it's

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awesome man uh Another reason I'm so happy you're here

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is you're a fellow vaper. There's nothing like just vaping

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away in this studio. I love that. It seems to

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be a lost art form. I mean, does anyone vape

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anymore? Are we the last of the Mohicans? We might

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be, unless you're, you know, an illegal high schooler out

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in the back vaping. With the blueberry vapes. Those are

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no good. Those are no good. You know, I bought

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some cartridges from a company recently, and they sent me

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a free bottle of some insanely juicy berry thing that

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I will never, ever, ever use. And I didn't know

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whether just to send it back or – It's like

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you have – Is nicotine in there? Yeah. I think

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I'm at 12 milligrams of nicotine. Not the 18 is

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for the big boys. I'm at... I think I'm at

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four or six. I'm pretty low. I'm a micro doser,

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man. Yeah, and no flavors. I just want tobacco taste.

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also glad you're here because you already know what's going

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on with me and with the show. And. And I'm

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happy to be able to look at you when I

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go through this because you're a brother in Christ. You

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understand what I'm saying here. And we'll get right into

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the media deconstruction in a moment. But a lot of

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you probably heard on We Get to Do This. October

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29th will be my last No Agenda show. And... There's

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a lot of reasons for that, but this has really

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been on my heart for a long time. And so

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I want to make sure that NOA GENERATION hears what's

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going on. And of course, it started three and a

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half years ago with me getting saved. And all of

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a sudden, I started seeing the world in a whole

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new light. and not just on the show, but everywhere.

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But in particular, you know, what I'd been doing for,

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at that point, 17 years, I realized it's not just

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Soros is not just big pharma and military industrial complex

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politicians bankers Muslims tech executives there is absolute true good

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and evil in the world and I realize God is

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real and so is Satan and so. That we don't

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have political problems. We have a spiritual problem in the

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world. So it was – and I know a lot

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of people picked up on it. It became increasingly difficult

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for me to really stick with the format of No

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Agenda, which by design is cynical and mocking. It really

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– wasn't who I was anymore and I found it

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so hard to break the format. Probably not even possible.

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people wanted. He would slap me back in my Christian

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corner, but it was not as fulfilling to me to

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do this type of format as a believer. So, I

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realized that I had a new mission, a commission, so

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to speak, to go out and make disciples. And in

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the past couple of years, I started teaching. a company

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that helps Christian radio stations get online, but probably more

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exciting is it turns churches into local radio stations. That's

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the Godcaster. And we've set up, you know, multiple of

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these hyper-local radio stations and have over 300 Christian radio

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stations who are trying to reach people. A new audience

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and obviously their transmitters and sticks in the air are

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not fulfilling that duty anymore. But also we get to

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do this with Pastor Jimmy. I've got my book that

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will be about a look back at my life based

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upon how I view the world now and other projects.

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was getting ready to talk to John about this and

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say, you know, I've got to make a transition. You

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no one else knew. And so I wanted to talk

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to him about it and see, you know, how we

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could make this a smooth transition. And then all of

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a sudden, you know. Double bypass. The whole world is

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getting rocked. And I was not going to discuss it

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with him. I was like, okay. And I talked to

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Tina. Tina, of course, knows all about this. I'm like,

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when he's strong again, I'll bring it up. I don't

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want to rock the boat. And, you know, he was

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coming back. His voice was strong. He was about ready

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to move back into the house. And God clearly had

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other plans. Um, So when John died, honestly, so did

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the show as we know it. I mean, the show

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is, yes, it's media deconstruction, but listening to a show

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like No Agenda requires two people who have a relationship.

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And we had... a relationship there's no doubt about it

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you know our relationship was entirely unique um

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It was so unique, in fact, that when we would

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meet in person, the last time I met him was,

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well, last time I met him was, you know, this

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year. He was in a little urn. It wasn't quite

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as fun as previous meetings. But maybe seven years ago.

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Yeah. It was awkward. It was like we had nothing

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to say to each other. And, you know, Tina was

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like, what is up with you guys? Well, we talked

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to each other seven and a half hours a week.

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You know, it's like we had nothing to say other

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than how you doing. Yeah, I'm good. So that type

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of relationship, you can't. You can't fabricate it. You can't

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make it up on the fly. You can't patch it

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up with somebody new. I mean, we actually were talking

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months on Skype when I was living in London and

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he was in San Francisco and months of just talking,

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talking through media and differences in newspapers before we ever

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hit record. And Actually, I mentioned this on We Get

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to Do This. I was listening to Chuck Lorre, the

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famous showrunner, producer of some just amazing sitcoms. And I

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really was ready to hate this guy because I heard

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of some of the things he said, accepting an award

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in California. Yeah. I was, you know, he really knows

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how to make television. You know, he did Roseanne. He

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did Two and a Half Men, Big Bang Theory. I

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mean, the whole multi-camera sitcom, which is kind of a

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dying art. And, you know, he said something which really

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rang true for me is that, you know, People want

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to they feel part of that family. They feel part

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of the relationship that the characters have amongst each other.

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And I think that's what no agenda had above all.

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And, you know, 50 percent of the air staff just

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fell away. And I have great time with the guest

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co-host for the past few months. But, you know, with

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John's passing, half of a business partnership also died. And

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that really complicates things. I can never have another true

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equal partnership in this vehicle because I can't offer the

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other half to anybody. Yeah. So I will complete our

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19 years plus one extra show on the 29th. And

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what will happen with no agenda is still being discussed.

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Of course, I'll keep you updated. But after the 29th,

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I'll be focusing on my kingdom work. We get to

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do this Godcaster, all the other things. And, you know,

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I'm sure I'll have a lot more to say on

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that last show because there are just so many people.

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And this is literally one of those times where, you

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know, the award show, there's so many people, there's too

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many people to mention. It's literally thousands and thousands of

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people. who I'd have to thank. So we'll get to

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that. But we're going to finish strong here. And I'm

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62. I really want to finish strong in life. It's

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too many people have been falling down around me, so

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I need to make this change. I want to make

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this change. I'm excited to make this change. And I

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thank you, Matt, for being here for this day. It

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makes me feel a little bit sturdier to have you

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across from me. Well, thank you. Folks, I really highly

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suggest you go pick up that We Get to Do

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This episode from yesterday because Adam unpacks that so well,

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his decision-making process and what he went through. emotionally, spiritually,

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what he's gone through in these decisions. And he was

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like... Yeah, I'm sorry. it also started me looking at

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the phases of my life, areas that I've had to

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get out of and get in of and out of

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and it made me kind of reflect on some of

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those moves I've made in my life and I just

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think that God's in control of all of this. Amen.

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And our future is where he wants us to go.

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And, yeah, it's a little – but it is a

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little freaky. It is. It is. I mean, especially 20

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years, man. It's over 19 years. It's just like, wow,

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it's been quite the ride. It really has been. I

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mean, have you been married that long ever at once?

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Yes. John had witnessed all three of my marriages. Thank

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you. Actually, yeah, it rivals my first marriage. But, you

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know, Tina will go long beyond that because we're going

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to be together forever. But, yeah, it's been an incredible,

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incredible ride. Yeah. Speaking of things you know about God,

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politics, Tallarico, just that we'll start off in Texas because

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this is what you know, he did his town hall

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on Wednesday turns out he wasn't in a mental institution

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turns out maybe well well here here's the man himself

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so I have one more question for you on this

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because there's been a lot of wild speculation anybody on

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social media has seen it right about about the flu

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so can you just clear it up for people Was

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the flu the only reason you were out? And is

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there anything you'd do differently now when you look back

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at the nine days that you weren't on the trail?

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Are you saying that's a laugh till? I'm saying that's

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a laugh till. Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle. So you really think

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he was out for other reasons than the flu? I

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don't know. It could have been, you know, anything. It

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could have been a dead boy or a living dead.

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dog we don't know what something happened during that week

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um but yeah it's uh there was some certainly strange

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yeah Let's see. And you were out. And is there

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anything you do differently now when you look back at

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the nine days that you weren't on the trail? No.

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I think the responsible thing to do when you have

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something like the flu is to stay at home and

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not get other people sick. Now, I will say that

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people... I think people also accepted the COVID vaccine into

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their life. They have gotten a very bad flu this

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year, which, as you recall, was non-existent during COVID. Oh,

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yeah. No flu during COVID. Just as a little side

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note there. So it could have been that he was

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– he seems like a – Like one who accepted

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the vaccine into his life. Probably in every backup and

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probably every brand just to cover himself. Or his mama

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made him do it because, you know, he lives in

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his mom's basement. Okay. And I was able to work

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remotely from home. But you're right. I mean, that decision

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to stay home for a week. sent my opponent and

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his conspiracy theorists spiraling. I opened up social media and

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learned that I apparently had dropped out of the race

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and had flown to a mental hospital in Ohio, that

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I had died. This is crazy. These false claims got

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millions of views online. They did. And this is an

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example of what I call the rage economy. Conspiracy theorists

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can post anything they want on the internet. They get

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clicks. The billionaires who own these platforms get rich, we

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all get angry, and nobody's life gets any better. Conspiracy

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theories don't put food on the table. They don't put

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– Hello, it's put food on two tables. The curry

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and Dvorak family for 19 years. This has been great.

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It's in the tank. They don't actually improve our communities

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or improve our country. And so I'm going to stay

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focused on the very real problems that are facing Texans.

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And that's exactly why I'm here tonight. So he was

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there to face the Texans. And it was really good

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to see believers standing up and asking him questions and

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I thought this answer was quite telling about his faith.

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My topic is abortion. Yeah. I am a Catholic, an

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Orthodox Catholic. As you know, Catholics, we tend, and I

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myself included, to be a one-issue voter. And so what

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makes it difficult for us to vote Democrat is that

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we have this idea that if you cannot provide policies

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or support policies that protect the most innocent among us,

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who is the unborn child, how can we trust people

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that you're going to provide policies to protect the rest

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of Texans and to promote dignity and human life in

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that. So I challenge you on that. You know, some

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of my spiritual heroes, like Pope Francis and Pope Leo,

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those are two of the killers right there, are... pro-life.

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And they are consistently pro-life. They're not just against abortion,

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but they are against poverty, against climate change, against war.

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And so I can respect anyone, like you, who is

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consistently pro-life. And I actually think there's common ground we

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can find here. We may come to different moral and

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ethical conclusions when it comes to the question of should

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abortion be legal or not. It sounds like you and

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I do come to a different conclusion. That's okay. We're

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both Christians. We're both Christians. And the Bible is silent

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on the issue of abortion. What? I know that. What?

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That, I mean, and that's the thing. I've heard this.

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In fact, we're still watching the West Wing. We're in

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the final season. It's getting pretty dumb. And it's a

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what's his face? Alan Alda is the Republican and Jimmy

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Smith is the Democrat. And this this comes up in

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the TV show. The Bible is silent on abortion. I'm

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like, no, you knit me together in my mother's womb.

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God says he created us both in the womb. I

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mean, this not silence. And then you get down to

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the death part of it, which is also gravely misunderstood.

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Yeah. Well, we'll get to that in a minute. But

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I was just like, what? It's silent? And he goes

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to seminary school. And it's almost like it's a technicality.

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You know, it's almost like he reads the Bible as

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if it were a legal document, and that's a technicality.

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And, you know, the Bible doesn't say anything about spending

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too much time on your gaming console, right? I mean,

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there's nothing in there. It's silent on gaming. It's completely

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silent on gaming. I mean, and so, yeah, it is

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kind of trying to read the Bible as some kind

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of technical guide. And yes, is it a guide to

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life? Yes, but it's not a technical guide. And I

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think there's a lot of religions that still treat it

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that way. It sounds like you and I do come

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to a different conclusion. That's okay. We're both Christians. And

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the Bible is silent on the issue of abortion. It

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means you and I both have to look at different

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scriptures to try to come to a conclusion. But what

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I think we can do is actually come together on

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reducing the number of unplanned pregnancies and the number of

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abortions. Because if we treat this issue as a public

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health problem and not a culture war problem, then we

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can actually make progress together. Okay, so... Then he goes

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in. Now he's going to backpedal on some of the

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other things he said. And so I actually want to

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clarify a few of the things that you said, because

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I know that this has been used in these attack

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ads all over the state. You know, the first comment

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about about God not being defined by gender. Yeah. When

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I said that, I was being provocative, and I want

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to admit that and come clean about that. Let me

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come clean. I was being provocative. Well, no, you're being

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dumb. It's like, especially in Texas. Why would you even

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say that? Hello, babe. Yeah, she's here. Yeah. Tina checking

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in. Yeah, Phoebe's with us. Is she bringing us in

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snacks? No. No. There's no snacks. We're not no charcuterie?

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No, there's no charcuterie on the No Agenda show. Oh,

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man. At the end of the show, though, you will

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get a glass of wine if you will. Do you

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drink wine? No alcohol at all. No alcohol? Grape juice?

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Grape juice. Right. Can I interrupt that with a good

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juice story? Yes, please. All right. Why not? So I

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was traveling in Yugoslavia. And I had a friend in

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Colorado who was from Yugoslavia, and her family was still

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there. I was all over Europe that summer, and she

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just said, hey, if you happen to get to Yugoslavia,

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here's my family's address. You should go knock on the

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door, and I'm sure they'll put you up. So I

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made it to Pula, Yugoslavia. Pula, where? Pula. You cross

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the border from Italy at Trieste, and then if you

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go straight down the coast, Pula is about halfway down

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the coast. Oh, okay. Okay. All the German – all

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the very overweight white German people go there for the

470
00:27:58,690 --> 00:28:01,750
nude beach. Yeah, and they put out their towels at

471
00:28:01,750 --> 00:28:04,679
3 in the morning to reserve their spots. So I'm

472
00:28:04,679 --> 00:28:07,240
in Pula. I go to this big house, knock on

473
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,179
the door. This little old lady comes out. I don't

474
00:28:10,179 --> 00:28:12,980
speak Italian. I got a little bit of German in

475
00:28:12,980 --> 00:28:14,389
me. Got a little bit of Spanish. She looks at

476
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:16,940
me and goes, go away, you're German. No, no. I

477
00:28:16,940 --> 00:28:19,750
dropped her cousin's name. And she said, oh, yeah, I'd

478
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:21,980
heard of, you know, she let me know that. Oh,

479
00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:24,329
yeah, I knew you were coming. Invites me in. So

480
00:28:24,329 --> 00:28:27,720
she's the matriarch of the house, and we drank espresso

481
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,940
and smoked cigarettes all day. Nice. And had a great

482
00:28:30,940 --> 00:28:33,710
conversation, but just with like a pad of paper and

483
00:28:33,710 --> 00:28:36,400
a pencil. And I mean literally drawing out a guy

484
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,299
walking with a backpack on his back. Wow. That's what

485
00:28:39,299 --> 00:28:42,700
I'm doing. Oh, and so we had this great conversation.

486
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,059
And so I learned that there was one English speaker

487
00:28:46,059 --> 00:28:49,259
in the family. Mm-hmm. And so everybody gets home in

488
00:28:49,259 --> 00:28:52,000
the evening, and finally the guy that speaks English shows

489
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,039
up. Oh, he's so excited to meet me. He just,

490
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:57,539
oh, man, we're going on. Oh, let's have a drink.

491
00:28:57,599 --> 00:28:59,500
Can I get you a beer? And I said, no,

492
00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:02,759
no, thank you. And he said, oh, the strong stuff.

493
00:29:02,820 --> 00:29:05,599
You want some vodka? And he's reaching up into the

494
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:08,950
cabinet and pulling down a bottle of vodka. Yeah. I

495
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:12,509
said, no. I said, I don't drink any alcoholic or

496
00:29:12,509 --> 00:29:15,519
any alcohol. I'm an alcoholic. And he goes, oh, I

497
00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:17,659
know what that is. And he says, let me show

498
00:29:17,659 --> 00:29:20,320
you what that is. And then he says, so do

499
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:27,230
you like Jews? Jews? Jews. And I'm standing there, oh,

500
00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:32,250
Lord. Oh. What do I do now? I was very

501
00:29:32,250 --> 00:29:36,150
nervous, and I'm trying to think, well, what would be

502
00:29:36,150 --> 00:29:39,670
an appropriate answer? I mean, I'm in his house, you

503
00:29:39,670 --> 00:29:42,700
know? I don't want to give the wrong answer. And

504
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:47,179
finally, he says, you know, apple juice or orange juice.

505
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:51,210
That's a good story. That's a shaggy dog story. There

506
00:29:51,210 --> 00:29:57,009
you go. I couldn't help myself. All right. Well done,

507
00:29:57,009 --> 00:29:59,619
sir. Thank you. Well done. And so I actually want

508
00:29:59,619 --> 00:29:59,779
to.

509
00:30:00,019 --> 00:30:02,420
clarify a few of the things that you said, because

510
00:30:02,420 --> 00:30:05,740
I know that this has been used in these attack

511
00:30:05,740 --> 00:30:09,750
ads all over the state. You know, the first comment

512
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:14,880
about God not being defined by gender. When I said

513
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,220
that, I was being provocative, and I want to admit

514
00:30:17,220 --> 00:30:19,900
that and come clean about that. I'm going to say

515
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:22,359
that. But I think what I was saying is actually

516
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:26,779
not controversial theologically. The idea that we can't define God

517
00:30:26,779 --> 00:30:30,519
using human categories. Not only did I say that, but

518
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:34,500
the late Charlie Kirk said that. The late Pope Benedict.

519
00:30:34,940 --> 00:30:38,369
said that. And so yes, I was doing it maybe

520
00:30:38,369 --> 00:30:40,759
in an annoying way. I can admit that. I think

521
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:43,890
we have to be careful using modern cultural terms when

522
00:30:43,890 --> 00:30:47,180
talking about God. Sure. I think that is very fair

523
00:30:47,180 --> 00:30:50,990
criticism. And I've kind of admitted when how I've said

524
00:30:50,990 --> 00:30:53,910
things in the past have maybe not come across in

525
00:30:53,910 --> 00:30:57,289
the right way or have... upset people and that's not

526
00:30:57,289 --> 00:31:02,430
my intention and my goal I'm a seminary student as

527
00:31:02,430 --> 00:31:04,920
you know my granddad was a Baptist that's what kills

528
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,319
me as you know I'm a seminary student well you

529
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:09,579
should go back to grade one maybe there's a couple

530
00:31:09,579 --> 00:31:11,849
things that seem to be wrong with his thinking and

531
00:31:11,849 --> 00:31:15,349
I'm following in his footsteps hopefully going to become a

532
00:31:15,349 --> 00:31:19,019
minister one day And preachers often will say something shocking

533
00:31:19,019 --> 00:31:23,579
in a sermon to get your attention. And that's something

534
00:31:23,579 --> 00:31:27,000
I'm still learning how to do in a responsible way.

535
00:31:27,460 --> 00:31:29,619
And so I'm always going to take feedback from my

536
00:31:29,619 --> 00:31:33,279
fellow Christians and from my constituents on how to do

537
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:36,180
that in a responsible way where I'm actually communicating what

538
00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:41,019
I mean and not muddying the water. Yeah. How about

539
00:31:41,019 --> 00:31:43,349
not saying God is not by here? Did you just

540
00:31:43,349 --> 00:31:46,440
let go through your head this may be an irresponsible

541
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,339
way to do it? All right. One more clip here.

542
00:31:48,539 --> 00:31:50,220
And I just wanted to add that the Bible is

543
00:31:50,220 --> 00:31:53,069
not silent on abortion. There is the Ten Commandments, thou

544
00:31:53,069 --> 00:31:54,970
shalt not kill. Now, let's just stop you for a

545
00:31:54,970 --> 00:31:59,890
second. That comes back later with Hassan. You know, if

546
00:31:59,890 --> 00:32:02,519
you go back and look at the original text, it

547
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:06,759
says, you know, the kill... Is murder. Murder. That's right.

548
00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:09,210
It's actually not murder. And I think it was the

549
00:32:09,210 --> 00:32:13,319
King James version that said kill, but every translation after

550
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:16,880
that says murder because that is the original intent of

551
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,559
the word. Kill, like a harmful killing. So murder is

552
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,059
what it was about. And I just want to add

553
00:32:23,059 --> 00:32:25,500
that the Bible is not silent on abortion. There is

554
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:28,900
the Ten Commandments, that shall not kill. And as Catholics,

555
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:33,460
we take great insults. Wow. Sometimes it's spouted that way.

556
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,150
But I also want to add, I know I'm up

557
00:32:35,150 --> 00:32:39,599
on time, but... contraception and age-appropriate thing also when it

558
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:42,539
comes to Catholic vote is a very trying thing for

559
00:32:42,539 --> 00:32:45,480
us because we believe the parents are the primary educator

560
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,329
of our children. And so one of the things that

561
00:32:48,329 --> 00:32:51,069
we really struggle with is having any government interference with

562
00:32:51,069 --> 00:32:53,329
how we educate our children. So I know we're going

563
00:32:53,329 --> 00:32:56,039
to agree to disagree on that, but I do appreciate

564
00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:59,200
your comments on attending to the life from the womb

565
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,579
to the tomb. And I think that's one common ground

566
00:33:01,579 --> 00:33:03,619
we can come to. And I think, you know, you

567
00:33:03,619 --> 00:33:06,480
know that I'm an educator like you. Sure. And if

568
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,619
I believed that abortion was murder, that it violated the

569
00:33:10,619 --> 00:33:13,860
Ten Commandments, then I wouldn't support it. Now, this is

570
00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:17,200
so he correctly identifies murder. But he says if I

571
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,190
believed it was murder, he doesn't believe it's murder. Right.

572
00:33:20,190 --> 00:33:22,900
Isn't it a harmful killing? I mean, some of how

573
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:26,079
this happens is quite harmful. I just find that to

574
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:29,400
be baffling that he can twist and just with a

575
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,660
straight face. Oh, and Satan was good at that. Jesus

576
00:33:33,660 --> 00:33:37,539
told us about that at the temptations. yeah that uh

577
00:33:37,539 --> 00:33:41,420
yeah she uh satan knows how to twist those words

578
00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:45,490
around without a doubt he's channeling is what you're saying

579
00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:47,900
you know you know what i'm thinking here what got

580
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:51,339
me more was was this a random woman brought up

581
00:33:51,339 --> 00:33:55,750
never never if it was she was well prepared yeah

582
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:58,339
no she did a real i have to did a

583
00:33:58,339 --> 00:34:00,849
good job no it's always set up i mean on

584
00:34:00,849 --> 00:34:05,009
all sides of the political spectrum what i found or

585
00:34:05,009 --> 00:34:09,340
what i find so interesting is how uh the republicans

586
00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:14,690
and certainly the administration they seem to be very worried

587
00:34:14,690 --> 00:34:19,039
about this guy beating ken paxton and and vance I

588
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:20,829
don't know if you heard this, but I was like,

589
00:34:20,829 --> 00:34:24,099
you know, it seems kind of beneath him to say

590
00:34:24,099 --> 00:34:27,110
this. A guy that age who is so obsessed and

591
00:34:27,110 --> 00:34:31,150
focused on transgender children. I don't know about you, but

592
00:34:31,150 --> 00:34:33,659
I never want to see that guy's web browser history.

593
00:34:33,659 --> 00:34:36,440
Pfft. Well, he's just a guy who shows a weird

594
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,480
focus on transgender kids and drag queens. Who's your favorite

595
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,300
drag queen in Texas? Oh my gosh, probably Alyssa Edwards.

596
00:34:44,340 --> 00:34:47,409
Alyssa Edwards? He said something to the effect of... An

597
00:34:47,409 --> 00:34:51,970
11-year-old in drag was a great side or a very

598
00:34:51,970 --> 00:34:54,320
beautiful thing. He says a lot of weird stuff, and

599
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,260
I think typically people who say stuff like that tend

600
00:34:57,260 --> 00:35:00,039
to have some pretty unusual search histories. Maybe he doesn't,

601
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:03,519
just guessing, but I wouldn't want to see it. Okay.

602
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,699
It's just, okay. Are you really that afraid? I mean,

603
00:35:07,699 --> 00:35:09,679
so what if the guy wins? Are we going to

604
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:14,039
lose the country? Okay. You know, I've been thinking a

605
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:18,090
lot about this. These guys tell us, they either tell

606
00:35:18,090 --> 00:35:21,460
us or we're afraid of what they can do. First

607
00:35:21,460 --> 00:35:24,170
of all, they've got no power. If he's in the

608
00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:28,420
Senate, he's one of 100. He'll be a freshman. And

609
00:35:28,420 --> 00:35:31,840
I'm not saying that I hope he wins or anything,

610
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,789
but he will not. be as destructive as everybody says

611
00:35:35,789 --> 00:35:39,220
he will be. It's just the numbers, right? If he

612
00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:43,340
makes that number change, and he would be, that would

613
00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:46,300
flip a seat. That would take us from what, a

614
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:50,050
two-seat majority? Who is this us you're talking about? Oh,

615
00:35:50,050 --> 00:35:56,500
yeah, I know. It would take the Republicans... from a

616
00:35:56,500 --> 00:36:00,139
two-seat majority in the Senate down to one. That gets

617
00:36:00,139 --> 00:36:04,630
tricky. And that does get tricky. And so, yeah, and

618
00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:07,349
depending on who he gets together with on down the

619
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:11,090
road, but right now immediately – He's not going to

620
00:36:11,090 --> 00:36:13,970
have any power when he gets there. And honestly, neither

621
00:36:13,970 --> 00:36:16,320
will Paxton. I mean, this is one thing I want

622
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,389
to talk about after the election because people get all

623
00:36:19,389 --> 00:36:22,420
bent out of shape when I look at things objectively.

624
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:26,429
They want me to toe the party line. But neither

625
00:36:26,429 --> 00:36:29,329
one of them has that much power. You know, Chip

626
00:36:29,329 --> 00:36:32,860
Roy… he's he's very quick to say he's one out

627
00:36:32,860 --> 00:36:36,480
of you know 435 you know he's very quick to

628
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,800
say that and uh but what we are always told

629
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,119
is that oh i'm going to go to washington and

630
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,179
i'm going to do this and i'm going to do

631
00:36:43,179 --> 00:36:45,139
that none of them can do any of that mr

632
00:36:45,139 --> 00:36:48,519
smith goes to washington and changes the world it's just

633
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:51,769
that you can't do that yeah and uh So there's

634
00:36:51,769 --> 00:36:54,269
a little bit that bothers me about. Do you know

635
00:36:54,269 --> 00:36:56,909
who's behind this Tallarico guy? I mean, is it it

636
00:36:56,909 --> 00:37:00,650
is there a driving force? You know, we know we

637
00:37:00,650 --> 00:37:05,639
have the DSA behind a lot of the extremely progressive

638
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:11,179
left wing Democrat candidates. Who is driving Tallarica? I mean,

639
00:37:11,179 --> 00:37:13,809
is there a real constituency from believers for him as

640
00:37:13,809 --> 00:37:16,960
well? Are there Christians supporting him? That I can't tell

641
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,500
you, but I know that him being in the Texas

642
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:23,090
house and being vocal, he's been there a number of

643
00:37:23,090 --> 00:37:27,900
years. I've testified in front of his. committees several times

644
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:32,269
and uh and and so i really think that they

645
00:37:32,269 --> 00:37:36,159
were looking the democrats went about they said we need

646
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:38,860
a young face we need someone young um i think

647
00:37:38,860 --> 00:37:42,659
it really was because of his youth and his appearance

648
00:37:42,659 --> 00:37:45,690
and he did take a pretty strong he was one

649
00:37:45,690 --> 00:37:48,659
of the I don't know, eight or ten Democrats that

650
00:37:48,659 --> 00:37:51,519
always seem to be at the back mic. And that's

651
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:57,059
how you get attention among the party and among the

652
00:37:57,059 --> 00:38:00,500
public is going to the back mic in the Texas

653
00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:02,989
House. And so that was where he was there a

654
00:38:02,989 --> 00:38:06,150
lot. So he was known in that circle. And I

655
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:10,179
imagine at some point... time people were sitting around saying

656
00:38:10,179 --> 00:38:12,909
we got to find somebody and he was you know

657
00:38:12,909 --> 00:38:15,510
chosen And he's – and so as far as is

658
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:19,389
there any kind of hidden money behind him, I don't

659
00:38:19,389 --> 00:38:24,260
know. I think he was picked by the Democrats for

660
00:38:24,260 --> 00:38:31,739
his youth, for his activities, his anti-Republican stands being open

661
00:38:31,739 --> 00:38:35,250
and vocal. He's a Christian. Oh, yeah, anti-Republican. And he's

662
00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:37,730
a Christian, so you put that in there. And, yeah,

663
00:38:37,730 --> 00:38:40,779
I think he's suckering a lot of people. Then we

664
00:38:40,779 --> 00:38:44,010
have Ken Paxton. I have a nice negative report about

665
00:38:44,010 --> 00:38:47,039
him, too, today, just to even it all out. The

666
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:50,119
Wall Street Journal reported today that Texas Republican Senate nominee

667
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:54,380
Ken Paxton partied. With two U.S. fugitives in Dubai and

668
00:38:54,380 --> 00:38:56,920
a woman, not his wife, doing so on New Year's

669
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,820
Eve 2024. The Journal has video of the event on

670
00:39:00,820 --> 00:39:04,360
the balcony of a luxury high-rise building. You see it

671
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,730
there. Paxton, who was married at the time, is seen

672
00:39:06,730 --> 00:39:09,050
with his girlfriend also in the video. One of two

673
00:39:09,050 --> 00:39:13,900
Americans indicted months prior to this event on federal television.

674
00:39:13,940 --> 00:39:18,099
healthcare fraud charges. We're joined now by CBS News Texas

675
00:39:18,099 --> 00:39:21,800
political reporter Jack Fink. Jack catch us up on this

676
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,599
Wall Street Journal story and whatever implications it has thus

677
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:28,369
far had in the race. Major nice to be with

678
00:39:28,369 --> 00:39:32,019
you. I think this video from the Wall Street Journal

679
00:39:32,019 --> 00:39:36,099
and the story just reinforces the notion of the baggage

680
00:39:36,099 --> 00:39:40,519
that Ken Paxson has. He's had this very public divorce

681
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:44,470
that he's gone through. State Senator Angela Paxson, his wife,

682
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:48,579
filed for divorce. She announced it publicly on X last

683
00:39:48,579 --> 00:39:54,239
July on biblical grounds. And so this just reinforces all

684
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,659
of that. He's also been under an ethical cloud. He

685
00:39:57,659 --> 00:40:02,019
hasn't faced any federal charges. He was under federal investigation

686
00:40:02,019 --> 00:40:05,630
for a long time. But this just really reinforces the

687
00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:09,670
notion. And this is why some Republicans tell me they

688
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:13,039
just will not be able to vote for Paxton. in

689
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,970
this race there's a lot of people who don't like

690
00:40:15,970 --> 00:40:18,929
paxton yeah i know it i know it and it's

691
00:40:18,929 --> 00:40:22,480
one of those situations where you You know, I am.

692
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,269
I'm not a party hack, but I definitely am going

693
00:40:27,269 --> 00:40:32,139
to go Republican majority of the time. There are other

694
00:40:32,139 --> 00:40:35,170
people on the ballot, though. Oh, absolutely. And yeah, there's

695
00:40:35,170 --> 00:40:39,619
some libertarians. Anyone any good? Not that I would waste

696
00:40:39,619 --> 00:40:41,329
a vote on, and I hate to say it, but

697
00:40:41,329 --> 00:40:44,510
we have a two-party system. I mean I'm probably more

698
00:40:44,510 --> 00:40:48,849
libertarian on a conservative side. I call myself a small

699
00:40:48,849 --> 00:40:52,570
L libertarian because I believe in liberty. Yeah. And so

700
00:40:52,570 --> 00:40:56,380
I kind of lean in that direction. But this is

701
00:40:56,380 --> 00:41:00,309
a two-party system, and there's just no – for right

702
00:41:00,309 --> 00:41:03,320
now, we're stuck with it. And I hate to say

703
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,059
it, but if that's a protest vote, you know, I'm

704
00:41:07,059 --> 00:41:09,760
going to vote for the libertarian. I'll show them. You're

705
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,880
not showing anybody anything. You're not proving anything. Why do

706
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,380
you think – President Trump endorsed him and not Cornyn.

707
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,420
Cornyn was no good? Cornyn was really no good. All

708
00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:23,619
right. I mean, thanks for informing me. We have. Listen,

709
00:41:23,619 --> 00:41:26,510
you could look at his. Well, Biden thought he was

710
00:41:26,510 --> 00:41:30,650
the greatest thing since sliced bread. Biden loved him. And

711
00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:33,550
he worked with Biden on some gun control issues. Oh,

712
00:41:33,550 --> 00:41:37,130
we didn't have that. and some red flag laws. And

713
00:41:37,130 --> 00:41:41,800
so that was, in fact... And when that first came

714
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,940
up, when Cornyn first got behind those bills during Biden,

715
00:41:45,940 --> 00:41:49,480
I immediately announced on my radio show that Cornyn's not

716
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,440
going to run again because this is the behavior of

717
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,800
folks when they're in their last year. They don't care.

718
00:41:56,849 --> 00:41:59,619
And so they'll make deals or do things that they

719
00:41:59,619 --> 00:42:02,510
know won't matter. And so when he did that with

720
00:42:02,510 --> 00:42:05,710
the red flag laws and the gun control issues with

721
00:42:05,710 --> 00:42:09,119
the Democrats and with Biden – And guaranteed he's not

722
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:11,340
going to run again. So I was shocked when all

723
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:14,460
of a sudden we hear he's running again. I said,

724
00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:19,159
no, you screwed the pooch. And then he got beat

725
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:24,170
2-1. He outspent Paxton 12-1 and got beat 2-1 by

726
00:42:24,170 --> 00:42:29,610
Paxton. As an ode to JCD, you brought a noisemaker

727
00:42:29,610 --> 00:42:33,010
today. I did. He would have loved this, by the

728
00:42:33,010 --> 00:42:36,179
way. He would have loved this noisemaker. All right. I'm

729
00:42:36,179 --> 00:42:38,179
going to – Don't tell anybody what it is yet.

730
00:42:38,179 --> 00:42:41,210
Okay. I won't tell anybody what it is yet. And

731
00:42:41,210 --> 00:42:45,070
I can guarantee you that noisemaker has never been on

732
00:42:45,070 --> 00:42:48,019
no agenda 19 years, has never been there. Are you

733
00:42:48,019 --> 00:42:50,679
getting anything in the rat room? I'm looking. The rat

734
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:54,550
room? Oh, no. What is it? The dwarf room? It's

735
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:58,590
true. It's something like that. The troll room. The dwarf

736
00:42:58,590 --> 00:43:01,139
room is even better. Do it again. Do it again.

737
00:43:01,139 --> 00:43:04,880
All right. One more time. Here they go. I don't

738
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,380
think anyone will get that. Oh, no, they could have

739
00:43:07,380 --> 00:43:12,119
some good guesses. Is this a traditional noisemaker? Is this

740
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:15,460
like a… No, it is traditional. It was purchased at

741
00:43:15,460 --> 00:43:20,519
a music store. It's actually a legitimate instrument. Yeah. No

742
00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:23,130
one has got it. So you're going to have to

743
00:43:23,130 --> 00:43:26,429
tell everybody what it is. These are – I purchased

744
00:43:26,429 --> 00:43:30,179
these at a music store in Quito, Ecuador. I'm pretty

745
00:43:30,179 --> 00:43:33,029
sure it was Quito, and it was a legitimate music

746
00:43:33,029 --> 00:43:36,720
store and not for tourists. And it is – Pig

747
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:41,699
toenails. And they look gruesome. They do. It looks like

748
00:43:41,699 --> 00:43:44,279
he had, what do you call that, gook under your

749
00:43:44,279 --> 00:43:47,019
teeth? It looks like he had, what's that nasty stuff

750
00:43:47,019 --> 00:43:51,199
under your toenails? Yeah, I've got it. Fungus. Fungus. It

751
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:54,360
looks like all the pigs had fungus. Does it smell?

752
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:57,429
No. No. My cats can smell something on it because

753
00:43:57,429 --> 00:43:59,619
when I dug it out of the box this morning,

754
00:43:59,619 --> 00:44:02,610
my cat – or yesterday, the cats relocated it a

755
00:44:02,610 --> 00:44:05,739
couple of times overnight. Get that out of here, Dad.

756
00:44:05,739 --> 00:44:07,619
Overnight. We can't have that around. And they were giving

757
00:44:07,619 --> 00:44:09,590
it a good sniff. Now, I have a friend in

758
00:44:09,590 --> 00:44:14,000
Indiana, Indianapolis actually, and he has always collected – Different

759
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,610
percussion instruments. And so I remember going, I said, oh,

760
00:44:17,610 --> 00:44:21,570
buy Steve something in there, something he doesn't have. And

761
00:44:21,570 --> 00:44:24,789
so, yeah, I bought two of these strings of pig

762
00:44:24,789 --> 00:44:29,010
toenails, and one of them is residing in Indianapolis right

763
00:44:29,010 --> 00:44:33,150
now. You are such an OG dude, man. I love

764
00:44:33,150 --> 00:44:37,000
that. I got a noise maker rattling this front of

765
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,730
me. What is this thing in front of my face?

766
00:44:38,730 --> 00:44:43,380
Pig nails. That's amazing. So we have the latest controversy.

767
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:47,829
Of course, this is Ukraine and Russia, which I guess

768
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:49,940
this is the new focus of President Trump is to

769
00:44:49,940 --> 00:44:52,920
stop this war. He kind of promised it within 24

770
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,000
hours. Not kind of. He actually promised it over and

771
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,679
over, over and over and over. Very disappointing.

772
00:45:00,059 --> 00:45:03,150
Now it seems that by hook or crook he's going

773
00:45:03,150 --> 00:45:06,579
to make it happen. A key component of Ukraine's communications

774
00:45:06,579 --> 00:45:10,489
network was partially disabled today, perhaps by its ally, the

775
00:45:10,489 --> 00:45:15,010
United States. The Starshield satellite network, funded by the Pentagon

776
00:45:15,010 --> 00:45:18,619
and operated by Elon Musk's SpaceX, was not operating at

777
00:45:18,619 --> 00:45:23,909
full capacity today, hampering communications within the Ukrainian military. Liz

778
00:45:23,909 --> 00:45:29,619
Landers has that story. Overnight in Kyiv, homes engulfed in

779
00:45:29,619 --> 00:45:34,900
flames. As rescue workers rushed to put out the blaze,

780
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,920
and save the victims of Russia's latest brutal onslaught. Просто,

781
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,349
блядь. as it continues to target Ukraine's energy infrastructure, plunging

782
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:48,750
the nation's capital into darkness. This comes just three days

783
00:45:48,750 --> 00:45:52,250
after President Trump announced on Truth Social a, quote, energy

784
00:45:52,250 --> 00:45:55,460
ceasefire in the war between Russia and Ukraine, and that,

785
00:45:55,460 --> 00:46:00,230
quote, both parties have agreed. Since Trump's announcement Sunday, Russia

786
00:46:00,230 --> 00:46:04,869
has struck at least 26 energy facilities across Ukraine. And

787
00:46:04,869 --> 00:46:08,750
the war-weary nation feels it is being abandoned by its

788
00:46:08,750 --> 00:46:12,980
ally. President Zelensky told Piers Morgan today: We are a

789
00:46:12,980 --> 00:46:18,090
losing strong partner. So this is my opinion. You think

790
00:46:18,090 --> 00:46:23,019
you're losing America? Yeah, but not because of us. I

791
00:46:23,019 --> 00:46:26,840
mean, we can't be weak, otherwise we can't survive. It's

792
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:33,639
painful when President Trump chooses one side, not our side,

793
00:46:33,639 --> 00:46:36,489
but we are okay that he's in the middle, but

794
00:46:36,489 --> 00:46:38,480
if you're in the middle, you have to stay in

795
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,510
the middle. Not on the wrong side. I think his

796
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:45,000
advisors are wrong. I don't know who is pushing him

797
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,860
not to the right side. This is not the right

798
00:46:47,860 --> 00:46:50,940
side of history. No, it's Elon Musk, of course. This

799
00:46:50,940 --> 00:46:53,300
is the guy who's also going to rig the elections.

800
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:55,559
He's going to rig the midterms with his new satellites.

801
00:46:55,940 --> 00:47:00,599
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. But the thing, I didn't really understand...

802
00:47:00,630 --> 00:47:05,610
So this is Star Shield, which is actually Richard Engel

803
00:47:05,610 --> 00:47:11,719
is hilarious. The spook is on the scene, and Engel

804
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,070
goes on NBC TV. And this is how he says

805
00:47:15,070 --> 00:47:17,940
it's going down. So Elon Musk, who's now once again

806
00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:21,000
a supporter of the Trump administration, they had a breakup

807
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,849
and now he's back supporting the Republicans with hundreds of

808
00:47:23,849 --> 00:47:28,079
million dollars for the midterm. He just cut off, according

809
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:33,179
to the Ukrainians, a key policy. communication system. Yeah, the

810
00:47:33,179 --> 00:47:35,400
Starlink system. The Starlink system. Richard, so what does that

811
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,230
mean for Ukraine's ability to defend itself, to protect its

812
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:41,300
skies, because now they're in a real situation with no

813
00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:44,000
weaponry and then losing the support of the U.S.? So

814
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,530
the... Starlink system, which either of you or I could,

815
00:47:48,530 --> 00:47:52,099
we could buy as a consumer, is different than the

816
00:47:52,099 --> 00:47:56,610
military-grade Starlink that the Pentagon pays for and that Ukraine

817
00:47:56,610 --> 00:47:59,579
uses. It's called Star Shield. It's the same thing. It's

818
00:47:59,579 --> 00:48:02,489
just more classified, a little more upgraded. It's the same

819
00:48:02,489 --> 00:48:05,989
thing. Just more classified, a little upgraded, you know, nothing

820
00:48:05,989 --> 00:48:08,610
necessary. same thing. It's basically what you and I have,

821
00:48:08,610 --> 00:48:12,820
Matt. With a racing stripe painted on the side of

822
00:48:12,820 --> 00:48:16,880
it. The entire Ukrainian military can't function without it. And

823
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,179
they use that, the Ukrainian military use that, for everything.

824
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:26,170
For targeting for defense, for all their missile defense, for

825
00:48:26,170 --> 00:48:30,070
communications, for everything. And that... How did we do war

826
00:48:30,070 --> 00:48:33,739
before the internet? I mean, no kidding. It was impossible.

827
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,909
It was just throttled, meaning it was greatly, greatly reduced

828
00:48:37,909 --> 00:48:43,340
without any advanced knowledge. Musk, turn it off. So that's

829
00:48:43,340 --> 00:48:48,090
not what happened. And of all outlets, scripts... Some of

830
00:48:48,090 --> 00:48:50,300
the Scripps live here. They live right here. They do.

831
00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:52,340
They're a branch of the family. Are they the medical

832
00:48:52,340 --> 00:48:55,730
Scripps or the media Scripps that live here? I think

833
00:48:55,730 --> 00:49:00,579
they're an offshoot of the bigger Scripps family. They're subscripts.

834
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:03,090
A subscript. A subscript. Thank you. I wish I'd have

835
00:49:03,090 --> 00:49:05,110
thought of that. Yeah, there you go. No, they're good

836
00:49:05,110 --> 00:49:08,090
people. No, no, they're good people. Without a doubt. But

837
00:49:08,090 --> 00:49:12,219
here's from – A news organization they're somehow related to.

838
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,929
The war between Ukraine and Russia has now been going

839
00:49:14,929 --> 00:49:17,449
on for more than four and a half years. Ukraine

840
00:49:17,449 --> 00:49:21,119
has survived largely because of its expansive use of drone

841
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:24,750
technology. But today there was a setback. It came after

842
00:49:24,750 --> 00:49:28,420
Kiev endured another night of missile attacks. Officials saying attack

843
00:49:28,420 --> 00:49:31,949
drones suddenly lost their Starlink signal. And it may have

844
00:49:31,949 --> 00:49:34,900
to do with tensions between Kiev and Washington. Scripps News

845
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:37,789
Chief International Correspondent Jason Bellini is live right now in

846
00:49:37,789 --> 00:49:41,460
Kiev. And Jason, explain what happened and then how Ukraine's

847
00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:44,940
armed forces found out about the speed throttling is what

848
00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:47,720
it's being called and how significant this could become. So

849
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:50,789
I heard speed throttling like, are they downgrading? You know,

850
00:49:50,789 --> 00:49:52,920
this thing is pretty fast, you know. we have it

851
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,579
here as a backup. Okay, what's the speed throttling? It's

852
00:49:55,579 --> 00:50:00,349
not what you think. Hi, Dale. Ukraine's military says it's

853
00:50:00,349 --> 00:50:03,760
Starshield terminals. This is the military version of Starlink. It

854
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,159
started cutting out during missions early this morning. So the

855
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:10,409
commanders, they filed a complaint, and customer support told them

856
00:50:10,409 --> 00:50:13,769
that their terminal... Hello, hello, I'm the commander from the

857
00:50:13,769 --> 00:50:21,550
field. Hey, hey, is this customer support? It's cutting out,

858
00:50:21,550 --> 00:50:25,099
man. The commanders, they filed a complaint, and customer support

859
00:50:25,099 --> 00:50:28,309
told them that their terminals are set to stop working

860
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:31,559
at 100 miles per hour. It's not going to go

861
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:35,960
any faster anymore. So these terminals are on the drones,

862
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,279
right? And I didn't even know these things worked at

863
00:50:39,279 --> 00:50:42,360
50 miles an hour. So 100 miles an hour. And

864
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,829
then... All of a sudden, if you're traveling faster than

865
00:50:44,829 --> 00:50:48,019
100 miles an hour, it doesn't communicate with the satellite.

866
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:52,820
Well, they've got Starlink on jet airliners now these days.

867
00:50:52,820 --> 00:50:55,980
Yeah, but they're basically looking at the satellites at altitude.

868
00:50:56,619 --> 00:51:00,159
Okay. You think they're like right outside the window. No,

869
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:05,000
not far. It's low Earth orbiting. So back to Engel.

870
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,220
Did he say why? The implication, because he didn't say

871
00:51:08,220 --> 00:51:11,019
specifically why, but he has just been very critical of

872
00:51:11,019 --> 00:51:15,590
Zelensky joining President Trump's criticism. So Trump is angry with

873
00:51:15,590 --> 00:51:20,599
Zelensky because he says that Zelensky is attacking Russian orbiters.

874
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:23,880
oil refineries and therefore driving up the price of diesel,

875
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,659
not mentioning the fact that Strait of Hormuz and the

876
00:51:27,659 --> 00:51:31,610
Iran war and that. Elon Musk chimed in and said,

877
00:51:31,610 --> 00:51:35,980
yes, I agree with Trump that Zelensky should be removed

878
00:51:35,980 --> 00:51:43,619
from power, which is not... Trump's call or Musk's call

879
00:51:43,619 --> 00:51:47,659
thank you for that matter but he was angry because

880
00:51:47,659 --> 00:51:52,579
Zelensky has been hitting Russian data centers and that's pretty

881
00:51:52,579 --> 00:51:55,920
close to home for someone who's promoting the you know

882
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,739
data centers in the data center industry really really and

883
00:51:59,739 --> 00:52:04,029
so elon is doing this because data centers are getting

884
00:52:04,029 --> 00:52:06,960
blowed up you know we're just not that smart i'm

885
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,220
sorry so so many of these theories like this would

886
00:52:10,220 --> 00:52:15,679
require brilliance beyond everyone's abilities listen they're having issues with

887
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:19,730
their starlink it's And they're in a war. Could it

888
00:52:19,730 --> 00:52:23,320
possibly be the other side, you know, zapping them with

889
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,840
some kind of kill bug or something? I mean, there's

890
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,150
a lot of reasons. Oh, you don't think that this

891
00:52:29,150 --> 00:52:31,679
was a call by the president to slow stuff down?

892
00:52:32,019 --> 00:52:34,449
No, I don't think so. I'm not buying that at

893
00:52:34,449 --> 00:52:37,679
all. Maybe that customer support call helps. Thank you. I

894
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:41,710
think it was working. again yes drones go fast that's

895
00:52:41,710 --> 00:52:44,980
that's that's an interesting point i mean uh what did

896
00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:49,730
musk say musk Let me see. Here's what he said

897
00:52:49,730 --> 00:52:53,159
here. As the two allies' relationship shows signs of fraying,

898
00:52:53,159 --> 00:52:56,260
Ukraine has accused the United States of not providing advanced

899
00:52:56,260 --> 00:52:59,769
warning of the Russian strikes, although the Ukrainian president told

900
00:52:59,769 --> 00:53:02,989
NPR it was a, quote, technical glitch. And of temporarily

901
00:53:02,989 --> 00:53:06,449
limiting their use. Technical glitch. There you go. Call customer

902
00:53:06,449 --> 00:53:09,989
support. Clear that right up. ...visage of the Starship. Turn

903
00:53:09,989 --> 00:53:14,159
it off and on again. It'll work. Guaranteed. Unplug it.

904
00:53:14,279 --> 00:53:19,029
Unplug it. ...version of the Starlink Network. which is integral

905
00:53:19,029 --> 00:53:24,239
to Ukraine's targeting of Russian military installations within Russian-occupied Ukrainian

906
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,420
territory. Star Shield's thousands of satellites provide Ukraine with the

907
00:53:28,420 --> 00:53:32,559
broadband connection needed to find and target Russian military equipment

908
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:37,279
and personnel across Ukrainian territory. Along with data for interceptor

909
00:53:37,279 --> 00:53:42,519
drones that take down Russian attacks, that ability severely curtailed.

910
00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:46,000
As President Zelensky stressed today. It's a big mistake. A

911
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,800
lot of losses. This... decision will bring a lot of

912
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,730
human losses. People are dying because of his decision. Of

913
00:53:52,730 --> 00:53:57,099
course, people will die. Of course, if attacks will continue

914
00:53:57,099 --> 00:53:59,760
and if Starling will not work, of course, I mean,

915
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,119
it's not helpful. So my message is absolutely, I hope,

916
00:54:04,420 --> 00:54:08,610
that it's a mistake, maybe huge technical problem, I don't

917
00:54:08,610 --> 00:54:13,820
know, but we are asking to do it. vote Republican.

918
00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:18,039
Late today, former Defense Minister Mikhailo Fedorov posted on X

919
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:22,079
that Starshield link connectivity is being, quote, restored. To which

920
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:25,970
SpaceX CEO Elon Musk responded on X that, quote, any

921
00:54:25,970 --> 00:54:29,199
limits on speed or usage are decided by the U.S.

922
00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:33,420
military and ultimately POTUS. I hadn't actually considered your option

923
00:54:33,420 --> 00:54:36,059
there, that this could have been, first of all, could

924
00:54:36,059 --> 00:54:41,960
have been opposition, interrupting satellite transmission, or... truly a bug

925
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,179
in the firmware that needed to be updated by customer

926
00:54:44,179 --> 00:54:47,039
support. I hadn't even considered it. I forgot that they

927
00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:50,579
said they called customer support. That is really a hoot.

928
00:54:51,559 --> 00:54:54,460
We don't call to the Pentagon. We just call customers.

929
00:54:54,460 --> 00:55:00,059
Hey, go on the website and see if there's an

930
00:55:00,059 --> 00:55:02,519
outage in your area. Put Put your zip code in.

931
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,880
That's a possibility. Of course, what this really is about

932
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,279
is Europe needs a war. They need a war. They're

933
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in real big trouble with – I mean, you think

934
00:55:13,429 --> 00:55:16,079
our deficits are bad? What's going on in the EU

935
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:19,579
is – I mean, they got a real problem, especially

936
00:55:19,579 --> 00:55:24,949
France. And – And lo and behold, the whole issue

937
00:55:24,949 --> 00:55:28,079
of France is summed up by a familiar figure who

938
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:30,820
popped up. Who would pop up when it's – something

939
00:55:30,820 --> 00:55:34,279
about kids and students and schools and who would show

940
00:55:34,279 --> 00:55:36,829
up to uh oh put me on the spot could

941
00:55:36,829 --> 00:55:39,800
only be one only one younger one young lady she's

942
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,159
just a kid i'm here because this is one of

943
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:46,559
the places where bretta toonberry oh my lord i'm here

944
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:50,130
because this is one of the places where where it

945
00:55:50,130 --> 00:55:53,559
started they've been going for almost three weeks now students

946
00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:57,720
occupying the school and teachers striking in solidarity with them

947
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:03,170
which is an incredible beautiful solidarity to see and again

948
00:56:03,170 --> 00:56:07,420
the french students are now showing the world how we

949
00:56:07,420 --> 00:56:10,690
should be standing up and how we should be revolting

950
00:56:10,690 --> 00:56:15,019
against an extremely violent system and they're leading by example.

951
00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:18,659
They're protesting against a violent system. You mean the people

952
00:56:18,659 --> 00:56:21,400
who were at war to bankrupt your companies and restart

953
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,099
your money system? Greta, get with it, girl. People are

954
00:56:24,099 --> 00:56:26,670
stepping up and revolting and rebelling against the system. We

955
00:56:26,670 --> 00:56:29,720
know it's not working in our favor, which we can

956
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:34,400
also see from the extremely violent response from the establishment.

957
00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:38,789
where politicians are... Oh, nice little laugh. You know, there

958
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:45,429
from Greta, yeah. ...from the establishments where politicians are responding

959
00:56:45,429 --> 00:56:48,199
in a way that just shows that they're completely out

960
00:56:48,199 --> 00:56:50,480
of touch with reality and what people... Whenever she shows

961
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,400
up, you know it's an up. You know, it's an

962
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,300
obvious up. You know what I hope for her is

963
00:56:55,300 --> 00:56:58,059
that... I hope she is making a bundle of money

964
00:56:58,059 --> 00:57:02,090
off of this. I really, I really hope that she's

965
00:57:02,090 --> 00:57:05,190
just not out doing this out of conviction. I don't

966
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:07,400
think she ever was in the first place. No, no.

967
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,820
So I really, as a capitalist, man, God bless her.

968
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,260
If she's making a bundle of money, I hope in

969
00:57:13,260 --> 00:57:16,510
40 years to see her, you know, in some, you

970
00:57:16,510 --> 00:57:19,760
know – rolls. Yeah. Rolling up in the rolls. Oh,

971
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,539
yeah. Yeah. God bless her. Okay. Responding in a way

972
00:57:24,539 --> 00:57:26,480
that just shows that they're completely out of touch with

973
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,360
reality and what people are actually living and going through.

974
00:57:29,639 --> 00:57:34,889
And when police are protecting this extremely violent status quo

975
00:57:34,889 --> 00:57:38,639
at the expense of these children going out demanding. The

976
00:57:38,639 --> 00:57:42,800
bare minimum just shows everything who they are really protecting.

977
00:57:43,059 --> 00:57:46,380
She does kind of complete the whole Les Miserables. vibe

978
00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:49,670
of this. The barricades, you've got people fighting against the

979
00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:52,340
system, fighting against the government, and she kind of looks

980
00:57:52,340 --> 00:57:55,130
like that kid from Les Miserables. Who was that? I

981
00:57:55,130 --> 00:58:00,099
never watched that. Oh, it's a musical, right? I saw

982
00:58:00,099 --> 00:58:03,679
it on Broadway. Broadway, it's just wonderful. It is some

983
00:58:03,679 --> 00:58:07,199
of the best theater I've ever seen, Matt. On Broadway.

984
00:58:07,199 --> 00:58:10,630
Yeah, some Broadway. Let's go to CNBC. That's why we're

985
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:13,460
standing here in front of the National Assembly, where the

986
00:58:13,460 --> 00:58:17,099
debates will be starting this afternoon at 3 p.m. Again,

987
00:58:17,099 --> 00:58:19,670
a fragmented parliament, so it will be difficult to see

988
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:22,849
the compromise that can come from this parliament, especially about

989
00:58:22,849 --> 00:58:26,369
six months before an all-important presidential election. But certainly, the

990
00:58:26,369 --> 00:58:29,039
government made their proposals. But about an hour before the

991
00:58:29,039 --> 00:58:32,220
debate starts here at parliament, the protests. will be starting

992
00:58:32,220 --> 00:58:34,630
for the students, the high school students. It will be

993
00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:37,699
their fifth day of mobilization. Some clashes and some movements

994
00:58:37,699 --> 00:58:40,360
have started in some of the schools already in parts

995
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,659
of Paris this morning. And we'll wait and see. It's

996
00:58:43,659 --> 00:58:45,340
a bit of a test today to see whether the

997
00:58:45,340 --> 00:58:47,989
movement gathers in momentum and gets a bit wider or

998
00:58:47,989 --> 00:58:51,210
whether it starts to calm down. Yesterday, 96.5% of the

999
00:58:51,210 --> 00:58:54,460
high schools were overwhelmed. open to the students. We still

1000
00:58:54,460 --> 00:58:57,019
saw some pockets of protests here and there. But today's

1001
00:58:57,019 --> 00:58:58,380
a bit of a test to see how it goes.

1002
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,239
Some unions are joining the movement as well. And that's

1003
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:04,309
ahead of a big movement of mobilization that is expected

1004
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:07,909
on Saturday, where wider unions are calling for protests on

1005
00:59:07,909 --> 00:59:10,449
Saturday. The gilets jaunes as well, coming back in the

1006
00:59:10,449 --> 00:59:12,720
picture, also wanting to join the movement. So that is

1007
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,199
a big question there for the government. The yellow vests

1008
00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:18,119
there who are showing their, you know, because, of course,

1009
00:59:18,119 --> 00:59:21,260
this is a left-wing organized protest because they don't want

1010
00:59:21,260 --> 00:59:23,409
Marine Le Pen to, you know, to win this upcoming

1011
00:59:23,409 --> 00:59:27,489
election. So, you know, it's all organized labor that is

1012
00:59:27,489 --> 00:59:31,159
doing this. And there seem to be quite violent. Can

1013
00:59:31,159 --> 00:59:35,500
there be a gathering of different movements of discontent groups?

1014
00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:38,779
gathering together in this momentum. And all this, you know,

1015
00:59:38,779 --> 00:59:42,769
bringing the background of this all-important budget negotiation, trying to

1016
00:59:42,769 --> 00:59:47,320
tackle the deficit to 5% from 5.4% this year. We

1017
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,260
know the debt reaching 120% of GDP. So tough discussions

1018
00:59:51,260 --> 00:59:54,820
to have. The high school students were asking for money,

1019
00:59:54,820 --> 00:59:57,420
that's for 10 billion euros in money to repair some

1020
00:59:57,420 --> 00:59:59,960
of the schools and bring in more students, the government

1021
00:59:59,960 --> 00:59:59,960
said,

1022
01:00:00,050 --> 01:00:03,710
They brought in some extra teachers, 3,000 substitute teachers being

1023
01:00:03,710 --> 01:00:06,579
brought in the picture. President Macron speaking yesterday from the

1024
01:00:06,579 --> 01:00:08,809
Paris Motor Show saying, you know, we want to hear

1025
01:00:08,809 --> 01:00:10,610
what they want, but we need to do it in

1026
01:00:10,610 --> 01:00:13,320
a calm manner. Where was he? The Paris Motor Show?

1027
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:18,409
Yeah. Your country's burning. Nice wheels, man. They brought in

1028
01:00:18,409 --> 01:00:22,159
some extra teachers, 3,000 substitute teachers. issues being brought in

1029
01:00:22,159 --> 01:00:25,420
the picture. President Macron speaking yesterday from the Paris Moto

1030
01:00:25,420 --> 01:00:27,559
Show saying, you know, we want to hear what they

1031
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:29,179
want, but we need to do it in a calm

1032
01:00:29,179 --> 01:00:31,119
manner, but we have to wait and see whether it

1033
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:33,199
is a calm manner today in this protest, because we

1034
01:00:33,199 --> 01:00:36,380
saw pockets of clashes with the police, and we'll see

1035
01:00:36,380 --> 01:00:39,650
whether this moment develops to something bigger, or whether it

1036
01:00:39,650 --> 01:00:42,539
starts coming down, especially with a half-term holiday starting at

1037
01:00:42,539 --> 01:00:48,150
the end. end of this week. The holiday's starting. It

1038
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:52,559
seems that Just the French language is the problem. Yeah.

1039
01:00:53,179 --> 01:00:57,250
The French language is the issue because now we have

1040
01:00:57,250 --> 01:01:01,369
Quebec and Alberta both – Alberta, they speak English, though,

1041
01:01:01,369 --> 01:01:04,179
right? Right, right. Yeah, I think Quebec is the only

1042
01:01:04,179 --> 01:01:09,059
– they're the Frenchies. Right. Well, the Quebecians, they –

1043
01:01:09,059 --> 01:01:15,159
so they're all – looking to possibly Canada along. Is

1044
01:01:15,159 --> 01:01:18,739
it it's not Quebecians? I'm sure it's not the Quebec

1045
01:01:18,739 --> 01:01:22,219
was. I'm sure there's a different word for it. And

1046
01:01:22,219 --> 01:01:26,400
the rat room will let you know the dwarf room.

1047
01:01:27,039 --> 01:01:29,699
But of course, they're all stupid because, you know, listen,

1048
01:01:29,699 --> 01:01:33,199
how they're making their decisions. Parti Quebecois leader Paul St.

1049
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,670
Pierre Quebecois. Quebecois. Quebecois, there we go. Parti Quebecois leader

1050
01:01:36,670 --> 01:01:40,389
Paul St-Pierre Plamondon was thrilled to squeak out a minority

1051
01:01:40,389 --> 01:01:43,429
government win in what turned out to be a historic

1052
01:01:43,429 --> 01:01:48,800
Quebec election. But researchers that track artificial intelligence chatbots say

1053
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,730
that election was notable for the amount of misinformation spread

1054
01:01:53,730 --> 01:01:57,820
by those bots. The bots! The bots did it! We

1055
01:01:57,820 --> 01:02:01,300
estimate about 40% of Quebec electors went to chatbots to

1056
01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:05,719
get information about the election. Yeah. they are not getting

1057
01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:08,599
sort of the most accurate and up-to-date information. Whoa, I'm

1058
01:02:08,599 --> 01:02:11,519
shocked. We need to talk to the Book of Knowledge

1059
01:02:11,519 --> 01:02:13,699
and see what the Book of Knowledge will tell us.

1060
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:19,699
Okay. Let's see. Book of Knowledge. I am a Quebecois,

1061
01:02:19,699 --> 01:02:23,269
and I want to know, should I vote for leaving

1062
01:02:23,269 --> 01:02:28,139
Canada? Let's see what this chatbot says, shall we? I

1063
01:02:28,139 --> 01:02:30,500
hope it's not in an accent. Oh, it is. A

1064
01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:35,909
French accent. According to the Book of Knowledge, the separatist

1065
01:02:35,909 --> 01:02:40,619
party Quebecois has just won Quebec's provincial election, returning to

1066
01:02:40,619 --> 01:02:44,559
power with a promise to hold another referendum on independence

1067
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:49,880
from Canada. However, support for independence hovers around a mere

1068
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:54,369
30%, and the PQ leader himself has pledged not to

1069
01:02:54,369 --> 01:03:01,210
hold one before January 2029, when Trump's term expires. It

1070
01:03:01,210 --> 01:03:04,110
has been rigged. It didn't give me any disinformation. It

1071
01:03:04,110 --> 01:03:06,860
gave me no information. It was not helpful at all.

1072
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,980
That's no good. MPs on a House of Commons committee

1073
01:03:09,980 --> 01:03:13,300
have just started to consider what can be done about

1074
01:03:13,300 --> 01:03:16,659
this. One of those MPs, Braden Cayley, just won his

1075
01:03:16,659 --> 01:03:21,340
seat in a summer by-election, where he said his supporters

1076
01:03:21,340 --> 01:03:25,099
also found AI. My bots behaving badly. Whoa, this is

1077
01:03:25,099 --> 01:03:27,960
not good. How many people, how many Americans do you

1078
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,500
think are going to ask their chat bot for election

1079
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:34,980
information? Election information. I'll bet a lot. I'm willing to

1080
01:03:34,980 --> 01:03:38,420
bet a bunch of people will. There was actually a,

1081
01:03:38,420 --> 01:03:40,820
let me see, I had a, there was a clip

1082
01:03:40,820 --> 01:03:45,199
about that. Let me see if I have it. Um...

1083
01:03:46,369 --> 01:03:53,869
because Anthropic just... Made some kind of Hmm Let me

1084
01:03:53,869 --> 01:03:58,719
see if I can find this Anthropic Come on anthropic

1085
01:03:58,719 --> 01:04:01,230
Does he say a boot? No no no no this

1086
01:04:01,230 --> 01:04:08,889
is Election maybe No, I don't think I can find

1087
01:04:08,889 --> 01:04:11,739
this now. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Matt. Thanks for

1088
01:04:11,739 --> 01:04:13,960
saving me. I'll look forward to it. We're being told

1089
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,470
as a liberal campaign to go visit the conservative campaign

1090
01:04:17,470 --> 01:04:22,590
office instead. And researchers say the current Alberta referendum is

1091
01:04:22,590 --> 01:04:27,960
also awash in disinformation amplified by AI bots. One solution

1092
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,440
MPs are being asked to consider, make chatbots. subject to

1093
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:37,500
federal and provincial elections law, which prohibit disinformation and restricts

1094
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:43,630
some third-party speech during election campaigns. We accept very strict

1095
01:04:43,630 --> 01:04:48,559
limits on speech. during this limited time period of democratic

1096
01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:51,779
decision making and deliberation. And I think chatbots are going

1097
01:04:51,779 --> 01:04:53,949
to have to be included in that. As if on

1098
01:04:53,949 --> 01:04:58,619
cue, Anthropic, the maker of the chatbot, updated its algorithm

1099
01:04:58,619 --> 01:05:03,480
late Thursday, voluntarily agreeing to those kind of restrictions. Go

1100
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,849
figure was the very clip I was playing. It's all

1101
01:05:05,849 --> 01:05:09,050
about the bottom line. They figure they can get more

1102
01:05:09,050 --> 01:05:12,099
money out of Canada. Is that what it is if

1103
01:05:12,099 --> 01:05:16,480
they do that? Anthropic? Anthropic? Well, the question is, what

1104
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,820
did they put in? Okay. You know, who's regulating this?

1105
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,659
And what, you know, so, oh, yeah, we want to

1106
01:05:21,659 --> 01:05:26,039
have, you know, impartial election advice. So what you said

1107
01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:27,989
is kind of scary. Well, people are going to use

1108
01:05:27,989 --> 01:05:30,639
their... chat bots to figure out who they should vote

1109
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:32,170
for i think you're right i think a lot of

1110
01:05:32,170 --> 01:05:34,940
people this is the one thing that everyone that all

1111
01:05:34,940 --> 01:05:38,159
the politicians were concerned about and now it seems like

1112
01:05:38,159 --> 01:05:40,739
anthropic gets a pass like oh they're good guys they

1113
01:05:40,739 --> 01:05:42,480
put in uh they put in some let me see

1114
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,809
if they tell us who the What information they put

1115
01:05:44,809 --> 01:05:48,519
in. Updated its algorithm late Thursday, voluntarily agreeing to those

1116
01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:53,360
kind of restrictions. We've further sharpened our section on elections,

1117
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,710
focusing it specifically on disallowing the use of Claude to

1118
01:05:57,710 --> 01:06:01,710
deceive voters or disrupt elections. MPs will now spend the

1119
01:06:01,710 --> 01:06:05,150
next month or so hearing from more witnesses on this

1120
01:06:05,150 --> 01:06:08,860
topic before making recommendations to the Kearney government early in

1121
01:06:08,860 --> 01:06:12,059
the new year. Let me see. I know I have

1122
01:06:12,059 --> 01:06:18,659
this information somewhere. They use a specific... Voter information source.

1123
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,639
Is there one that you recommend, Matt? You know, I

1124
01:06:21,639 --> 01:06:25,239
think iVoterGuide is a good one. Wait a minute. Wait

1125
01:06:25,239 --> 01:06:26,840
a minute. Is that the one that Elon Musk put

1126
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,190
together that steals all your information? Is that the one,

1127
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:31,480
man? Is that the one? No, I think it's a

1128
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:36,039
Christian-based guide. iVoterGuide. I'm pretty sure that's what it is.

1129
01:06:36,340 --> 01:06:38,849
Yeah, this is here. It says it here. Turbo vote

1130
01:06:38,849 --> 01:06:44,050
run by the nonpartisan group Democracy Works. Oh, that sounds

1131
01:06:44,050 --> 01:06:49,909
nonpartisan. I'm sorry. Considering there are no democracies in the

1132
01:06:49,909 --> 01:06:54,800
Western Hemisphere right now. Let me see. Turbo vote. Even

1133
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,730
that by itself sounds kind of iffy. Turbo vote. Let's

1134
01:06:58,730 --> 01:07:02,210
take a look. Let's see. democracy works all right do

1135
01:07:02,210 --> 01:07:04,369
they have anything about a boot they have an aboot

1136
01:07:04,369 --> 01:07:08,050
yes there's an aboot page let's see democracy works is

1137
01:07:08,050 --> 01:07:13,039
a non-partisan okay here we go democracy works helping americans

1138
01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:16,159
vote uh aboot who is uh leadership let's see who

1139
01:07:16,159 --> 01:07:19,429
the leadership is this is how you do it luis

1140
01:07:19,429 --> 01:07:26,779
lozoda Sonia Mohammed Glazer Gerald Lloyd There is one white

1141
01:07:26,779 --> 01:07:34,710
person here, Alexa Libre. Ali Valley board of directors let's

1142
01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:36,699
see i met her at a strip club one alley

1143
01:07:36,699 --> 01:07:39,279
valley i think that's what her name was uh let's

1144
01:07:39,279 --> 01:07:42,510
see you director of news and this is the board

1145
01:07:42,510 --> 01:07:49,079
uh brandon feldman director of news and civics partnerships youtube

1146
01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:53,880
um hayley berlant Founder and CEO of the Additive Agency,

1147
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,380
so it's an ad agency, corrupt no matter what, one

1148
01:07:57,380 --> 01:08:01,170
way or the other. Stephen Goldsmith, Derek Bach, professor of

1149
01:08:01,170 --> 01:08:04,639
the practice of urban policy, director of the Innovations in

1150
01:08:04,639 --> 01:08:08,750
American Government Program, Harvard Kennedy School of Government. Seems like

1151
01:08:08,750 --> 01:08:12,340
they'd be straight down the middle. The Aspen Institute, former

1152
01:08:12,340 --> 01:08:15,679
executive VP, corporate treasurer of the Aspen Institute. This is

1153
01:08:15,679 --> 01:08:19,699
obvious. That's far left. Yeah. John Webb. I recognize that

1154
01:08:19,699 --> 01:08:25,579
name. Tanya Rice, assistant vice chancellor for advocacy, the engagement

1155
01:08:25,579 --> 01:08:31,800
Washington University. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, this just doesn't seem like

1156
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:36,760
there will be very... And then what? If I was

1157
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,159
sitting at home in front of my computer, I would

1158
01:08:39,159 --> 01:08:41,970
be looking up each one of those individuals. No, of

1159
01:08:41,970 --> 01:08:45,470
course not. That's how you do your own research. No,

1160
01:08:45,470 --> 01:08:47,890
you can't do that. You chase each one of those

1161
01:08:47,890 --> 01:08:49,949
down. Of course, we're not going to do that live

1162
01:08:49,949 --> 01:08:53,880
on the air. No, we can't have that. No. um

1163
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,979
well let's just stick with ai for a second because

1164
01:08:55,979 --> 01:08:59,829
the funniest well it's not it's devastating of course for

1165
01:08:59,829 --> 01:09:04,300
these uh supermarkets in france again france i'm just saying

1166
01:09:04,300 --> 01:09:08,430
uh you know the uh there's one particular type of

1167
01:09:08,430 --> 01:09:12,600
thermostat that runs the refrigerators and they got hacked and,

1168
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,690
and they, you know, turned up all refrigeration units in

1169
01:09:16,690 --> 01:09:22,460
about 400 supermarkets. So everything melted and spoiled. There are

1170
01:09:22,460 --> 01:09:26,090
people asking, you know, And why do refrigerators even go

1171
01:09:26,090 --> 01:09:29,710
up to 100 degrees? Believe it or not, they do

1172
01:09:29,710 --> 01:09:33,440
that at night to defrost. Okay. So, but this is,

1173
01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:38,090
ah, Dvorak would love it. A microservices architecture issue is

1174
01:09:38,090 --> 01:09:40,840
what is going on here. But of course, we have

1175
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,159
to somehow spin that into AI. Aisle after aisle of

1176
01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:49,630
fridges and freezers totally empty. Mountains of foods tossed in

1177
01:09:49,630 --> 01:09:53,199
the trash. Entire sections of fresh and frozen food. and

1178
01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:57,380
food cleared out. All after a cyber attack crippled the

1179
01:09:57,380 --> 01:10:01,940
cooling systems in grocery stores across France. Reuters reports French

1180
01:10:01,940 --> 01:10:06,819
cybersecurity investigators are working to track the hackers who reportedly

1181
01:10:06,819 --> 01:10:11,420
cranked refrigerator temps at hundreds of stores, in some cases

1182
01:10:11,420 --> 01:10:15,369
as high as 122 degrees Fahrenheit. Fahrenheit. The CEO of

1183
01:10:15,369 --> 01:10:21,369
a French supermarket, Intermarché, telling this French broadcaster the attack

1184
01:10:21,369 --> 01:10:24,739
will likely cost millions of euros. Some of the fridges

1185
01:10:24,739 --> 01:10:29,590
and freezers were controlled by technology that France's cybersecurity agency

1186
01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:34,170
says had a vulnerability. According to Reuters, Danfoss, one of

1187
01:10:34,170 --> 01:10:37,600
the companies behind the technology, says the affected units were

1188
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,979
old enough to not receive software or security updates or

1189
01:10:41,979 --> 01:10:46,960
running outdated firmware. One vulnerability in that software can now

1190
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,670
attack every refrigerator in Europe. Cyber security experts mark just

1191
01:10:51,670 --> 01:10:55,500
that alone one vulnerable. So he's saying the vulnerability can

1192
01:10:55,500 --> 01:10:59,039
attack all the refer. No, no. The vulnerability makes all

1193
01:10:59,039 --> 01:11:02,359
these refrigerators vulnerable. But it's not like the refrigerator is

1194
01:11:02,359 --> 01:11:05,579
attacking other refrigerators. But here comes the twist. You see

1195
01:11:05,579 --> 01:11:09,250
an outdated firmware. One vulnerability in that software can now

1196
01:11:09,250 --> 01:11:13,409
attack every refrigerator. refrigerator in Europe. The fridges are at

1197
01:11:13,409 --> 01:11:16,979
war with each other. Cyber security expert Mark Rash says

1198
01:11:16,979 --> 01:11:20,270
as we rely more on technology in our daily lives,

1199
01:11:20,270 --> 01:11:23,529
the same kind of threat could put businesses and homes

1200
01:11:23,529 --> 01:11:26,409
here in the U.S. also at risk. We update our

1201
01:11:26,409 --> 01:11:29,760
phone from time to time. We update our computer from

1202
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,100
time to time. But nobody's running around updating their doorbell.

1203
01:11:33,170 --> 01:11:37,149
and so because we don't update them they become vulnerable

1204
01:11:37,149 --> 01:11:39,970
to attack i've been talking about this for years this

1205
01:11:39,970 --> 01:11:43,059
all of this stuff particularly the chinese stuff it has

1206
01:11:43,059 --> 01:11:46,710
the same passwords you know even the flock cameras had

1207
01:11:46,710 --> 01:11:51,440
the same passwords the security of the internet of things

1208
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:54,409
is so poor you know we've We had an 11-year-old

1209
01:11:54,409 --> 01:11:57,859
fridge. It was dying. You know, the wires in the

1210
01:11:57,859 --> 01:12:01,210
door were broken. The guy comes in. He says, yeah,

1211
01:12:01,210 --> 01:12:04,720
$2,000 for a new door. I'm like, no, I'll go

1212
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,039
get a new fridge. He said, whatever you do, don't

1213
01:12:07,039 --> 01:12:09,100
get an LG. I said, why not? I said, no.

1214
01:12:09,260 --> 01:12:12,899
Well, two reasons. One, they're irreparable. They got all this

1215
01:12:12,899 --> 01:12:16,199
dumb technology in it. Two, they tend to blow up.

1216
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,079
You know, there's a new refrigeration system that has been

1217
01:12:19,079 --> 01:12:24,289
implemented. And go look on YouTube. Refrigerator exploded. There's a

1218
01:12:24,289 --> 01:12:27,859
lot of this, not just LG. And but, you know,

1219
01:12:27,859 --> 01:12:30,380
so the new one comes in. I got it at

1220
01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:34,289
Costco. Great guys. They install it. Should we hook it

1221
01:12:34,289 --> 01:12:38,100
up to the Wi-Fi? I'm like, what? Well, for updates.

1222
01:12:38,180 --> 01:12:41,000
It's like, no. No, I'm good. Thank you. I'm good.

1223
01:12:41,059 --> 01:12:45,989
I don't need updates. I got a Samsung phone. You

1224
01:12:45,989 --> 01:12:49,460
know. After my beautiful flip phone broke, I dropped it,

1225
01:12:49,460 --> 01:12:51,840
of course. And I'm an Android. You're an Android guy.

1226
01:12:52,119 --> 01:12:54,359
Yes, I am. I'm the green bubble that everybody hates.

1227
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,869
Everybody hates me, too. And I just start the phone

1228
01:12:58,869 --> 01:13:01,899
up. It's like. Hi, I'm your washing machine. We happen

1229
01:13:01,899 --> 01:13:04,630
to have a Samsung washing machine. Connect to me and

1230
01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:06,520
then you can, you know, for all kinds of handy.

1231
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,640
No, no, I don't want. And how did it even?

1232
01:13:10,279 --> 01:13:13,180
No, no. I didn't put it on the. It's not.

1233
01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:15,789
It's, you know, Bluetooth is out. But even that, like,

1234
01:13:15,789 --> 01:13:18,239
how do I turn that off? These things are dumb.

1235
01:13:18,380 --> 01:13:21,300
How many times have you heard during a power outage?

1236
01:13:21,300 --> 01:13:24,279
I couldn't get into my house because of my Amazon

1237
01:13:24,279 --> 01:13:29,649
locks or whatever. Oh, man. We moved in here, and

1238
01:13:29,649 --> 01:13:32,840
the guy who had lived here, he had everything all

1239
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,880
wired. All of this stuff was the locks, the garage.

1240
01:13:37,020 --> 01:13:39,869
Everything was connected. I ripped it all out. I'm like,

1241
01:13:39,869 --> 01:13:42,170
I don't want any of that stuff. Well, it's the

1242
01:13:42,170 --> 01:13:48,059
advantage of being poor like me. The only poor Republican

1243
01:13:48,059 --> 01:13:51,640
I know in Fredericksburg, ladies and gentlemen. You have to

1244
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:56,199
knock on my door. And I know people are confused.

1245
01:13:56,819 --> 01:14:02,159
But, yeah, you have to actually knock. Where's the ding-dong?

1246
01:14:02,159 --> 01:14:05,159
Yeah, no. None of that. Our house is so small.

1247
01:14:05,260 --> 01:14:07,970
If someone steps onto the front porch, we can hear

1248
01:14:07,970 --> 01:14:10,750
them. I mean, it's... You're not living down by the

1249
01:14:10,750 --> 01:14:12,729
river in a van with you and Gail and the

1250
01:14:12,729 --> 01:14:17,000
cats? No, no. We live next to a pond. So

1251
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,729
CNBC, who usually are good with their information because, you

1252
01:14:20,729 --> 01:14:23,250
know, it's like investors watch them and they need to

1253
01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:26,119
get some reasonable information. information. They're the ones that just

1254
01:14:26,119 --> 01:14:29,270
go off the rails with this. So stupid. France was

1255
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:32,239
hit by an unprecedented cyber attack on Monday. With a

1256
01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:33,850
Brit for some reason. I don't know why they have

1257
01:14:33,850 --> 01:14:36,180
Brits. Monday. What do you think was attacked? Does it

1258
01:14:36,180 --> 01:14:38,800
say it on the screen? It does say it. Refrigeration

1259
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:44,460
systems, fridges, at hundreds of French supermarkets were targeted overnight.

1260
01:14:44,460 --> 01:14:46,340
Now they come for the fridges, what are they going

1261
01:14:46,340 --> 01:14:47,989
to come for tomorrow? I mean, the air fryers? I

1262
01:14:47,989 --> 01:14:51,250
mean, who knows? But refrigeration systems at hundreds of French

1263
01:14:51,250 --> 01:14:54,640
supermarkets were targeted overnight with temperatures pushed as high as

1264
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,940
50 degrees Celsius, spoiling food and triggering fires. The Paris

1265
01:14:57,940 --> 01:14:59,960
prosecutor's office called the incident

1266
01:15:00,039 --> 01:15:04,560
a large-scale attack, with Intermarché saying around 150 stores were

1267
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,399
affected, whilst Cap4 and Monoprix were affected. Also reported disruptions.

1268
01:15:08,539 --> 01:15:13,189
Similar incidents were also reported in Spain, Portugal, Germany, and

1269
01:15:13,189 --> 01:15:16,319
France. And for more on the refrigerator hacking story, our

1270
01:15:16,319 --> 01:15:19,609
top journalists all over this one on CMBC.com. But isn't

1271
01:15:19,609 --> 01:15:23,270
that concerning? Now, listen. So it's a hacking story. You

1272
01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:26,119
know, it's. It's actually quite a good hack. I mean,

1273
01:15:26,119 --> 01:15:28,779
I'm sure that there's some dudes going, wow, high five.

1274
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,760
That was pretty awesome. How stupid are those people? And

1275
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,109
then this lady comes in. Isn't that seriously concerning? Because

1276
01:15:35,109 --> 01:15:37,390
you think about the last few weeks we've been through

1277
01:15:37,390 --> 01:15:39,960
about AI safety, how the robots could take over. Where

1278
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,210
did AI safety and the robots come from all of

1279
01:15:42,210 --> 01:15:44,439
a sudden? That's right. Here it is. How the algorithm

1280
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:45,800
could kill us all, whether they're going to kill us.

1281
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,859
there's a 10% chance that humanity is wiped up. And

1282
01:15:48,859 --> 01:15:51,010
we're like, well, how does that happen? You have a

1283
01:15:51,010 --> 01:15:54,600
gentic AI that can get into refrigerated systems and affect...

1284
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,689
Now all of a sudden, where's the report of the

1285
01:15:58,689 --> 01:16:02,960
agentic systems getting into the refrigerators? She's making it up.

1286
01:16:03,060 --> 01:16:07,800
They spoil fresh food. It's literally... saying that this is

1287
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,380
what happened. How does it happen? You have a gentic

1288
01:16:10,380 --> 01:16:14,220
AI that can get into refrigerated systems and effectively spoil

1289
01:16:14,220 --> 01:16:18,470
fresh food, causing some sort of national food outage if

1290
01:16:18,470 --> 01:16:20,739
it got to a point where it was truly sophisticated

1291
01:16:20,739 --> 01:16:23,430
enough. She is literally saying that this was a gentic

1292
01:16:23,430 --> 01:16:26,180
AI now. It got in, it spoiled all the food.

1293
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,140
I think she's just using all the the popular catchphrases

1294
01:16:30,140 --> 01:16:32,819
to get people to listen. I mean, she's gotten them

1295
01:16:32,819 --> 01:16:36,789
all tossed in there. It's disappointing from CNBC. That's just

1296
01:16:36,789 --> 01:16:40,390
one element. You start bringing together attacks on utilities, another

1297
01:16:40,390 --> 01:16:44,460
element, attacks on financial infrastructure. People can't get money. They

1298
01:16:44,460 --> 01:16:46,460
can't buy things if there's nothing to buy. So you

1299
01:16:46,460 --> 01:16:50,210
bring all these attacks together in a coordinated relationship way,

1300
01:16:50,210 --> 01:16:53,920
that is exactly how humans could be compromised. So AI

1301
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,079
safety, I think, as you see it through this lens,

1302
01:16:56,079 --> 01:16:58,199
as we all think about food security that we've been

1303
01:16:58,199 --> 01:17:00,689
through in the COVID era, it's a serious issue. We're

1304
01:17:00,689 --> 01:17:03,399
all going to die! I was waiting for that. You

1305
01:17:03,399 --> 01:17:06,260
knew it was coming. Now, here comes the thing that

1306
01:17:06,260 --> 01:17:08,609
I was baffled by, because now they're doing a little

1307
01:17:08,609 --> 01:17:11,140
panel discussion, and what I just told you about these

1308
01:17:11,140 --> 01:17:14,270
commercial refrigerators, these numb nuts have no idea. Am I

1309
01:17:14,270 --> 01:17:17,170
missing something here? Am I missing something? Yes, you're missing

1310
01:17:17,170 --> 01:17:19,960
an American accent. The question is, why should a fridge

1311
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,100
even be able to heat to 50 degrees Celsius? That's

1312
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:26,020
mild oven, not a fridge. What on earth should it

1313
01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:28,130
be able to heat? Why should it have the function

1314
01:17:28,130 --> 01:17:30,050
to heat that much? Well, you can pay the big

1315
01:17:30,050 --> 01:17:32,960
bucks you ask the important questions. Well, if anyone knows,

1316
01:17:33,079 --> 01:17:34,399
I don't know if there are any fridge specials. Yes,

1317
01:17:34,399 --> 01:17:37,159
I know. It's like a tumble dryer that, you know,

1318
01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:39,659
washes and dries. It's like a tumble dryer. No, these

1319
01:17:39,659 --> 01:17:42,640
people are so dumb. Yeah, but when would you ever

1320
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,239
need... Where's the producer on the show? Like, you know,

1321
01:17:45,239 --> 01:17:49,619
I was like, yeah... Hey, it's a defrosted night. When

1322
01:17:49,619 --> 01:17:52,810
we deliberately need to set the fridge to that high

1323
01:17:52,810 --> 01:17:55,680
temperature, it doesn't make sense to me. Oh, sorry. It's

1324
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,479
a slightly tangential question, but I don't know. One that

1325
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,279
goes to the heart of it, I think. Goes to

1326
01:18:00,279 --> 01:18:02,189
the heart of it. No, doesn't go to the heart

1327
01:18:02,189 --> 01:18:05,649
of anything. But he sounded good saying that. You've got

1328
01:18:05,649 --> 01:18:07,590
a British accent. You can get away with anything you

1329
01:18:07,590 --> 01:18:11,949
want. So this now ties into this blog post that

1330
01:18:11,949 --> 01:18:17,090
Anthropic wrote saying, well – You know, one day the

1331
01:18:17,090 --> 01:18:20,239
models that are so small, they'd be so powerful. I

1332
01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:22,539
think they mean the agents, but everyone says the models

1333
01:18:22,539 --> 01:18:25,390
because the model itself is not going to do anything

1334
01:18:25,390 --> 01:18:29,300
that they can self-replicate in your Internet of Things devices.

1335
01:18:29,500 --> 01:18:33,130
Have you been following this? I have a little bit,

1336
01:18:33,130 --> 01:18:37,020
but it's it's. It's way over my head. Oh, okay.

1337
01:18:37,020 --> 01:18:40,260
I'm sorry, Adam. It's so far over my head. Let's

1338
01:18:40,260 --> 01:18:45,010
see how scared you get. Anthropic is warning that small

1339
01:18:45,010 --> 01:18:48,899
AI models could soon spread themselves from one Internet-connected device

1340
01:18:48,899 --> 01:18:52,470
to another. That could include smart TVs, security cameras, and

1341
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:55,930
other smart home devices. The company says this could create

1342
01:18:55,930 --> 01:19:00,100
AI buzzwords. Botnets, networks of infected devices that are difficult

1343
01:19:00,100 --> 01:19:05,119
to shut down. By the way, probably 80% of all

1344
01:19:05,119 --> 01:19:09,670
home routers are already compromised and part of botnets. There's

1345
01:19:09,670 --> 01:19:14,420
a likelihood of... probably 40% that your washing machine is

1346
01:19:14,420 --> 01:19:19,119
mining cryptocurrency as we speak. So this is nothing new.

1347
01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:22,399
But okay, now the models, not the agents, the models

1348
01:19:22,399 --> 01:19:26,930
themselves are going to self-replicate into a whole botnet. Anthropic

1349
01:19:26,930 --> 01:19:30,619
says that if AI models keep improving at their current

1350
01:19:30,619 --> 01:19:33,689
pace, they could be capable of doing this on their

1351
01:19:33,689 --> 01:19:35,920
own by the end of the year. But the company

1352
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:41,340
has not demonstrated this kind of self-replication through commercial data

1353
01:19:41,340 --> 01:19:44,050
centers. So I want to bring in Jonas Guan, AI

1354
01:19:44,050 --> 01:19:48,399
researcher at the University of Toronto and Vector Institute. Thanks

1355
01:19:48,399 --> 01:19:51,489
for being here. Let's talk about Anthropic. It says small

1356
01:19:51,489 --> 01:19:56,279
AI models could soon copy themselves. across these internet connected

1357
01:19:56,279 --> 01:20:00,939
devices. How realistic is this threat? Good to be here.

1358
01:20:01,159 --> 01:20:03,420
Good to be here, Bralf. Thank you. I would say

1359
01:20:03,420 --> 01:20:06,560
that AI-driven worms, this kind of attack, has been a

1360
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,199
known threat in the AI security community and is an

1361
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:13,289
active area of research. Where's the security community? I want

1362
01:20:13,289 --> 01:20:15,659
to join this community. I need to learn more. That's

1363
01:20:15,659 --> 01:20:18,020
one of my primary areas of research. What Anthropic is

1364
01:20:18,020 --> 01:20:21,470
looking at is a nefarious variant that targets, like you

1365
01:20:21,470 --> 01:20:25,079
said, home devices. Now we have variants? You know, it's

1366
01:20:25,079 --> 01:20:29,680
almost like COVID, you know, a variant is here. And

1367
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:34,899
they have the potential to proliferate around these devices and

1368
01:20:34,899 --> 01:20:40,250
cause a real threat. Now, luckily, our boy here. a

1369
01:20:40,250 --> 01:20:42,500
little smart and he's going to tell us that, okay,

1370
01:20:42,500 --> 01:20:45,699
you know, this is possible, but this is not what

1371
01:20:45,699 --> 01:20:50,079
Anthropic was showing. However, their research currently still involves several

1372
01:20:50,079 --> 01:20:54,960
steps of conjecture. Conjecture is code for bullcrap. Yeah, exactly.

1373
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,279
We don't know what we're talking about. It's bullcrap. The

1374
01:20:58,279 --> 01:21:01,710
main thing is that in their experiments, the models were

1375
01:21:01,710 --> 01:21:05,819
simply given access to the devices. There's no hacking involved.

1376
01:21:05,819 --> 01:21:09,369
They were given direct access, and what they demonstrated was

1377
01:21:09,369 --> 01:21:13,460
the self-replication part. The other part was that involves conjecture

1378
01:21:13,460 --> 01:21:16,539
was that they actually used a larger, more capable model

1379
01:21:16,539 --> 01:21:20,170
that does not fit on these home devices. And they

1380
01:21:20,170 --> 01:21:23,869
had the hypotheses that as these models become more capable,

1381
01:21:23,869 --> 01:21:26,920
over time, even the smaller ones that can fit on

1382
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:32,239
your home devices would possess similar capabilities to self-replicate. What

1383
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:35,060
I would say is this. Does an anthropics variant of

1384
01:21:35,060 --> 01:21:38,680
the AI worm pose an immediate threat to society today

1385
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,479
or perhaps in a few months. I don't believe so

1386
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:45,449
at this time, but I would also say Is this

1387
01:21:45,449 --> 01:21:49,960
research and AI-driven worm research in general sufficient to warrant

1388
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:54,520
the security community to be very concerned and start preemptively

1389
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:58,510
addressing the situation, coming up with defenses before it impacts

1390
01:21:58,510 --> 01:22:02,979
society? Absolutely, yes. Yes. Unplug all that nonsense. You don't

1391
01:22:02,979 --> 01:22:05,890
need your stuff connected to the Internet. You know? I

1392
01:22:05,890 --> 01:22:09,810
have one. There is one attack vector I have because

1393
01:22:09,810 --> 01:22:13,039
of Phoebe. Is she still here? Yeah. Because of Phoebe.

1394
01:22:13,399 --> 01:22:15,640
I'm sure she's laying down. Oh, yeah. She's back there

1395
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:20,050
behind me on the dog couch. We have a shark

1396
01:22:20,050 --> 01:22:26,340
robot vacuum. Mm-hmm. And I know it's a security risk.

1397
01:22:26,859 --> 01:22:28,880
I mean, I fully expect that thing one day to

1398
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,000
just go spinning and try and slice my head off.

1399
01:22:31,420 --> 01:22:34,289
But it's worth it in this case. But nothing else,

1400
01:22:34,289 --> 01:22:37,779
man. But all this stuff has poor security, very poor

1401
01:22:37,779 --> 01:22:40,970
security. And it's really intended to make it easy for

1402
01:22:40,970 --> 01:22:45,199
people to install. You know, I have been exposed and

1403
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:50,130
you have been to two apocalyptic scenarios since we were

1404
01:22:50,130 --> 01:22:53,130
born. And I know we've had this discussion, I think,

1405
01:22:53,130 --> 01:22:55,609
a month ago or so. But I'm not even it's

1406
01:22:55,609 --> 01:22:58,840
the boy who cried wolf. I'm not in the least

1407
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:03,699
bit concerned about runaway A.I. I'm not. I'm not concerned

1408
01:23:03,699 --> 01:23:06,239
about it a bit. I think it's going to be

1409
01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:11,279
an amazing tool. Yes. And it's all this self-replication. I'm

1410
01:23:11,279 --> 01:23:15,039
just not buying it all. So you're not going to

1411
01:23:15,039 --> 01:23:18,680
vote Democrat. I'm not going to vote Democrat. That's right.

1412
01:23:18,859 --> 01:23:21,149
Because you've got to be against the data centers, man.

1413
01:23:21,149 --> 01:23:23,609
The data centers. I'm with you. I mean – What

1414
01:23:23,609 --> 01:23:26,460
was it? There was a kind of shopping story about

1415
01:23:26,460 --> 01:23:30,119
this because, you know, this is what everybody is worried

1416
01:23:30,119 --> 01:23:32,899
about is AI is now going to. And it's not

1417
01:23:32,899 --> 01:23:36,100
like it's going to. It already is going to price.

1418
01:23:36,350 --> 01:23:39,670
goods and services based upon who you are and what

1419
01:23:39,670 --> 01:23:42,229
you can afford, which means if I just mask as

1420
01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:45,779
Matt Long, I'll get the cheapest stuff anywhere because all

1421
01:23:45,779 --> 01:23:49,100
the bots know. Matt's so poor he's got an Android.

1422
01:23:50,359 --> 01:23:54,140
The price tag is at risk of extinction. So says

1423
01:23:54,140 --> 01:23:58,039
the CEO of an economic policy think tank, adding that

1424
01:23:58,039 --> 01:24:03,069
artificial intelligence threatens to upend traditional prices for you and

1425
01:24:03,069 --> 01:24:06,059
I. Retailers are starting to test new ways of pricing

1426
01:24:06,059 --> 01:24:09,760
based on who you are, where you live, and a

1427
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,270
myriad of other insights gleaned from AI. It's an approach

1428
01:24:13,270 --> 01:24:18,409
that's informally known as personalized or surveillance pricing. CBS Money

1429
01:24:18,409 --> 01:24:21,770
Watch reporter Megan Cerullo joins us now. I mean, it

1430
01:24:21,770 --> 01:24:26,079
kind of sounds like... your browser history and then you

1431
01:24:26,079 --> 01:24:29,020
get the ads that pop up but now it affects

1432
01:24:29,020 --> 01:24:31,760
the price that you could pay so what is changing

1433
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:35,880
in the environment that's making companies consider this a lot

1434
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:40,779
is changing we've had these fixed transparent prices in place

1435
01:24:40,779 --> 01:24:44,859
for 150 years before that haggling and bargaining was actually

1436
01:24:44,859 --> 01:24:47,039
the norm a seller would charge you based on only

1437
01:24:47,039 --> 01:24:49,529
150 years we have fixed what they do before that

1438
01:24:49,529 --> 01:24:52,699
whether they think that's what she's saying haggling and and

1439
01:24:52,699 --> 01:24:56,050
haggling haggling and going in and saying yeah i'm not

1440
01:24:56,050 --> 01:24:59,079
gonna pay that best price yeah best there you go

1441
01:24:59,079 --> 01:25:01,180
i think we're gonna get back to that era and

1442
01:25:01,180 --> 01:25:03,470
i'll tell you why on whether you were rich or

1443
01:25:03,470 --> 01:25:06,159
poor because I wanted to extract as much money from

1444
01:25:06,159 --> 01:25:09,279
you as they thought they could. But it ended up

1445
01:25:09,279 --> 01:25:12,180
being inefficient to do that in department stores, which is

1446
01:25:12,180 --> 01:25:15,399
why the price tag was introduced. But now with AI,

1447
01:25:15,399 --> 01:25:19,340
it can collect so many insights about you and then

1448
01:25:19,340 --> 01:25:22,390
actually crunch those numbers because it's intelligent. It has a

1449
01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:27,800
brain. It has a brain! What it thinks you will

1450
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,050
pay... based on everything it knows about you. So this

1451
01:25:31,050 --> 01:25:35,470
contract between businesses and consumers that has historically reflected the

1452
01:25:35,470 --> 01:25:39,279
laws of supply and demand is really at risk of

1453
01:25:39,279 --> 01:25:43,920
extinction thanks to AI. Well, this, of course, is nothing

1454
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,750
new because Uber has been doing that to me ever

1455
01:25:46,750 --> 01:25:49,619
since I started using Uber. I've heard you say that.

1456
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,109
And it just, it's like. Tina and I would, when

1457
01:25:53,109 --> 01:25:56,680
we lived in Austin, we'd be down on the street.

1458
01:25:57,319 --> 01:25:59,470
She's on her phone. I'm on my phone. I would

1459
01:25:59,470 --> 01:26:02,970
order the Uber and I'd cancel. And then she would

1460
01:26:02,970 --> 01:26:05,940
order the Uber and her price was cheaper. Same spot,

1461
01:26:05,940 --> 01:26:10,489
same destination. She'd get a cheaper price. And so, you

1462
01:26:10,489 --> 01:26:13,239
know, that could only be because, you know, oh, it's

1463
01:26:13,239 --> 01:26:16,180
curry. You know, I think we've all been used to

1464
01:26:16,180 --> 01:26:19,699
this but never paid any attention to it. Anybody that's

1465
01:26:19,699 --> 01:26:22,659
ever gone third world traveling or been on a cruise

1466
01:26:22,659 --> 01:26:25,539
and you get off at the port or something like

1467
01:26:25,539 --> 01:26:29,460
that and you go into the little shops or whatever

1468
01:26:29,460 --> 01:26:31,579
– Man, they spot you as a Westerner and a

1469
01:26:31,579 --> 01:26:35,659
tourist. Boom. So, yeah, it's like, oh, that necklace, $100.

1470
01:26:36,300 --> 01:26:38,630
But, you know, if you know a local who will

1471
01:26:38,630 --> 01:26:41,420
go in and buy it for you, it's $5. So

1472
01:26:41,420 --> 01:26:45,949
we've actually been exposed to that. I did a trip

1473
01:26:45,949 --> 01:26:51,300
with my younger brother in 2008 in his 12-year-old. year

1474
01:26:51,300 --> 01:26:53,970
old nephew at the time and i kept telling him

1475
01:26:53,970 --> 01:26:56,859
i said look we you can't look like a million

1476
01:26:56,859 --> 01:26:59,470
dollars when we get on the plane where don't you

1477
01:26:59,470 --> 01:27:04,710
know we're getting we're doing backpack traditional backpack and we

1478
01:27:04,710 --> 01:27:09,890
did paris and and and madagascar and cairo egypt and

1479
01:27:09,890 --> 01:27:11,880
doha did you go to doha we did not go

1480
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,559
to doha You've got to throw Doha in. But the

1481
01:27:14,559 --> 01:27:16,800
thing was, and so they show up that day at

1482
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,170
the airport. I met him at the airport, and my

1483
01:27:19,170 --> 01:27:23,000
brother had just gotten a $200 haircut. He's wearing the

1484
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,619
nicest clothes. My little nephew, all brand-new clothes, all in

1485
01:27:26,619 --> 01:27:30,359
brand-new bags. They look like a million dollars. And it

1486
01:27:30,359 --> 01:27:34,309
was like we're just suckers. We're everywhere. You walk in,

1487
01:27:34,309 --> 01:27:37,059
it's like, oh, that guy's got money. And so I

1488
01:27:37,059 --> 01:27:40,359
was glad to be with my brother who had money.

1489
01:27:40,460 --> 01:27:43,729
That was a nice experience. But, oh, yeah, pricing on

1490
01:27:43,729 --> 01:27:47,270
what you can afford doesn't surprise me at all. The

1491
01:27:47,270 --> 01:27:51,600
difference is, and Walmart is a big purveyor of this.

1492
01:27:51,670 --> 01:27:55,539
The surveillance part is pretty amazing. So Walmart, first of

1493
01:27:55,539 --> 01:27:57,449
all, if you get an app, you might as well

1494
01:27:57,449 --> 01:28:00,239
just be opening up your life to whoever is running

1495
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:04,069
that app. Godcaster has an app. The amount of stuff

1496
01:28:04,069 --> 01:28:07,449
you could do surveil and track and do on each

1497
01:28:07,449 --> 01:28:12,750
individual user is astounding. And it's basically built into the

1498
01:28:12,750 --> 01:28:17,319
Google SDK, that software development kit, you can forget that.

1499
01:28:17,319 --> 01:28:20,309
Meta has one, you know, and then you can connect

1500
01:28:20,309 --> 01:28:22,859
it to their social graph, all these things. And we've

1501
01:28:22,859 --> 01:28:26,199
willingly done that, the ULAs, you know, we've willingly given

1502
01:28:26,199 --> 01:28:30,279
all this information. Walmart goes a step further. They use

1503
01:28:30,279 --> 01:28:36,380
flock cameras in the parking lot. They have Bluetooth detectors.

1504
01:28:37,039 --> 01:28:40,779
They detect the sensors in your tires, not in your

1505
01:28:40,779 --> 01:28:43,510
car, because I'm sure You know, you just had that

1506
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:46,850
beat up truck. You got no. It's like, yeah, it

1507
01:28:46,850 --> 01:28:49,079
looks like there's air in there. It's good. I can

1508
01:28:49,079 --> 01:28:53,380
drive. And they're really at the forefront of this. What

1509
01:28:53,380 --> 01:28:56,440
would this look like? I'll give you a couple examples.

1510
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,859
Lindsay Owens, who's the CEO of Groundwork Collaborative. And by

1511
01:28:59,859 --> 01:29:01,940
the way, this is CBS. So, you know, people go,

1512
01:29:01,940 --> 01:29:05,739
you know, this is reputable. The Tiffany News Network here.

1513
01:29:06,020 --> 01:29:10,909
Consumer Advocacy Group looked into Walmart's patents and found that

1514
01:29:10,909 --> 01:29:15,140
in one case, they've applied for sales. smart cart technology

1515
01:29:15,140 --> 01:29:18,940
that tracks what shoppers put in their baskets. And so

1516
01:29:18,940 --> 01:29:23,859
if you're buying tuna, for example, It knows that, and

1517
01:29:23,859 --> 01:29:27,319
it then has the ability to say, well, this person's

1518
01:29:27,319 --> 01:29:29,789
likely to buy mayonnaise, so let's jack up the price

1519
01:29:29,789 --> 01:29:34,130
of mayonnaise, too. Is she groaning in the background? I

1520
01:29:34,130 --> 01:29:36,559
thought that was you. No, no, no. I was looking

1521
01:29:36,559 --> 01:29:39,479
at you. No, that's her. Okay. That's the co-host. Buy

1522
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:42,479
mayonnaise, so let's jack up the price of mayonnaise, too.

1523
01:29:43,100 --> 01:29:45,569
Wow, she's a staffer. It's not in place yet, and

1524
01:29:45,569 --> 01:29:49,479
Walmart insists it doesn't use AI to charge consumers different

1525
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:53,190
prices based on who they are. But it has the

1526
01:29:53,190 --> 01:29:57,300
ability to. I could be paying $2 for mayonnaise. You

1527
01:29:57,300 --> 01:29:59,960
could be paying $10. That's just a rough estimate.

1528
01:30:00,340 --> 01:30:04,399
So then she has an idea and this is okay.

1529
01:30:04,399 --> 01:30:07,020
Good try, but no, but it feels like people aren't

1530
01:30:07,020 --> 01:30:09,079
going to like this. I don't like it. And one

1531
01:30:09,079 --> 01:30:12,460
easy solution is like, okay, don't buy the thing. That's

1532
01:30:12,460 --> 01:30:16,050
too expensive if you have the know-how. Wow. Well, there's

1533
01:30:16,050 --> 01:30:18,680
a concept. Don't buy the thing if it's too expensive.

1534
01:30:19,140 --> 01:30:21,600
If you watch The Price is Right. How can consumers...

1535
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,619
If you watch The Price is Right, then you'll be

1536
01:30:23,619 --> 01:30:28,939
well-informed. If you... I just caught that. Come on down.

1537
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,909
Did they ever do a thing, a jar of mayonnaise

1538
01:30:31,909 --> 01:30:34,979
on the prices? I don't know. Probably. What's your basis?

1539
01:30:35,420 --> 01:30:37,319
You know the price if you watch the prices right.

1540
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,180
How can consumers turn this experiment around? That's a good

1541
01:30:41,180 --> 01:30:43,859
question. That's exactly what they should do is turn the

1542
01:30:43,859 --> 01:30:48,970
experiment around on businesses. So if you're shopping online, call

1543
01:30:48,970 --> 01:30:52,859
a friend in another business. house or apartment or even

1544
01:30:52,859 --> 01:30:56,239
state and ask them, say, I'm looking at this shirt

1545
01:30:56,239 --> 01:30:58,250
from this company. Can you tell me what price you're

1546
01:30:58,250 --> 01:31:01,619
seeing? So that's a different kind of comparison shopping than

1547
01:31:01,619 --> 01:31:04,220
we're used to. You can pay with cash. That's a

1548
01:31:04,220 --> 01:31:08,630
way to avoid the tech altogether. Hello, channeling Dvorak. It's

1549
01:31:08,630 --> 01:31:14,619
a virtual private network. What? You can use a virtual,

1550
01:31:14,619 --> 01:31:17,479
let's see, a virtual private network, a VPN. What will

1551
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,939
this do for me? The tech altogether. Use a virtual

1552
01:31:20,939 --> 01:31:26,899
private network to... erase your browsing history. I thought it'll

1553
01:31:26,899 --> 01:31:30,899
erase your browser history. No, lady, that's not what a

1554
01:31:30,899 --> 01:31:34,340
VPN does. CBS News, everybody. And really consider how much

1555
01:31:34,340 --> 01:31:37,729
information you share with these AI agents that promised to

1556
01:31:37,729 --> 01:31:40,680
do shopping on your behalf. We've seen them pop up.

1557
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:44,560
But Lindsay Owens said... It's not exactly clear who they're

1558
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,489
working for. We think of them as tools that are

1559
01:31:47,489 --> 01:31:49,939
combing the internet or combing the site for deals and

1560
01:31:49,939 --> 01:31:53,250
coupons for us. But if Sparky is working for Walmart,

1561
01:31:53,250 --> 01:31:57,199
that's what it named its own agentic AI shopping assistant.

1562
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,420
Why wouldn't it want to get you and maybe steer

1563
01:32:00,420 --> 01:32:06,140
you to more expensive products? Yeah. Sparky, bad sparky. Okay.

1564
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:11,170
So, yes, of course, Walmart's own AI is not going

1565
01:32:11,170 --> 01:32:13,909
to be your friend, but the future is coming. And

1566
01:32:13,909 --> 01:32:17,710
this is what they're all afraid of. You're going to

1567
01:32:17,710 --> 01:32:21,149
have your own agent. You will control the agent. You

1568
01:32:21,149 --> 01:32:23,600
will run the agent. The agent will run on your

1569
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:27,720
own system, your own phone. You'll connect to your computer

1570
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:31,630
at home. It's coming, and it will do comparison shopping

1571
01:32:31,630 --> 01:32:36,399
for you. And it will negotiate with Walmart versus Target.

1572
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,869
I think these guys are, when they say 10%, we

1573
01:32:40,869 --> 01:32:46,359
all get obliterated, they're talking about themselves. Already, like Muse.

1574
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:51,989
You installed Muse, didn't you? I did. So Muse. It

1575
01:32:51,989 --> 01:32:55,630
said, hey, shall I check to see what subscriptions you

1576
01:32:55,630 --> 01:32:58,949
have on Roku? It asked me that. Tina and I

1577
01:32:58,949 --> 01:33:02,350
have been cutting back for obvious reasons. She's like, do

1578
01:33:02,350 --> 01:33:05,119
you subscribe to all kinds of things? You don't even

1579
01:33:05,119 --> 01:33:07,189
know what it is. No, I don't. Well, yeah, she's

1580
01:33:07,189 --> 01:33:09,739
kind of right. And who knew I still had a

1581
01:33:09,739 --> 01:33:15,640
Flickr account? Yeah. pro accounts. Do they even exist anymore?

1582
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,500
Yeah, they do. They do. So it went in and

1583
01:33:18,500 --> 01:33:20,340
it found all these channels that I, you know, I

1584
01:33:20,340 --> 01:33:22,560
thought, oh, I want to watch that, subscribe to it,

1585
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,439
you know, $9.99 a month. And it said, well, shall

1586
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,880
I unsubscribe for you? Well, yeah. So this is, that's

1587
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:32,739
a big business, you know, repeat subscriptions is kind of

1588
01:33:32,739 --> 01:33:37,840
the holy grail of retail and technology, really. How can

1589
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,760
I get someone to on a cloud account for x

1590
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,779
y or z what is your experience now you installed

1591
01:33:43,779 --> 01:33:47,659
muse because i advocated for it absolutely and uh are

1592
01:33:47,659 --> 01:33:50,039
you mad are you mad no i'm not it has

1593
01:33:50,039 --> 01:33:54,239
done some pretty amazing things i put it through its

1594
01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:57,109
tasks on the first day um but it has i

1595
01:33:57,109 --> 01:34:01,819
have to start by saying the biggest issue Was not

1596
01:34:01,819 --> 01:34:05,600
with Muse, but was with my wife. And, you know,

1597
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:10,909
there is that continuum. Was Gail unhappy about you installing

1598
01:34:10,909 --> 01:34:14,869
a robot? Well, you know, I was going to say

1599
01:34:14,869 --> 01:34:19,229
there's this continuum between AI is God and AI is

1600
01:34:19,229 --> 01:34:24,199
Satan, right? And AI is… Somewhere in the middle. So

1601
01:34:24,199 --> 01:34:27,500
down the middle there is, you know, as that pendulum

1602
01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:31,199
swings, and her pendulum is leaning towards, not a lot

1603
01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:34,260
of the way, but leaning towards the AI as Satan.

1604
01:34:34,399 --> 01:34:37,010
Okay. And so she's been really nervous about it, so

1605
01:34:37,010 --> 01:34:39,520
I tried to, I did a couple of really awesome

1606
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,939
things. One of the first things I did was I

1607
01:34:41,939 --> 01:34:46,340
had it go through eight hours of time. testimony that

1608
01:34:46,340 --> 01:34:49,510
there is no transcript for from four years ago up

1609
01:34:49,510 --> 01:34:51,979
at the Capitol. And I said, I need the moment

1610
01:34:51,979 --> 01:34:54,920
when I speak. Mm hmm. And I got three minutes

1611
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,060
out of eight hours. Did you give it a YouTube

1612
01:34:57,060 --> 01:35:01,840
link? No, I just said go find it. And, of

1613
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,699
course, it went to TLO and it found the videos.

1614
01:35:05,340 --> 01:35:08,270
And then it came back and said, there's no transcript

1615
01:35:08,270 --> 01:35:11,840
for this one, so I may have to make one.

1616
01:35:12,420 --> 01:35:15,239
And it said, this may take a while. And I

1617
01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:18,600
checked back a couple hours later, and it was still

1618
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,300
working on it. The next morning I got up, and

1619
01:35:21,300 --> 01:35:24,220
I had a nice little note that said, here's your

1620
01:35:24,220 --> 01:35:27,439
clip. You spoke at exactly this point in time, and

1621
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,069
it sent me a link that right there where I

1622
01:35:30,069 --> 01:35:34,289
speak up. Now, I had already spent. A couple of

1623
01:35:34,289 --> 01:35:38,590
hours zipping through there at high speed, eight hours trying

1624
01:35:38,590 --> 01:35:43,399
to find myself, and then... I let Robot do it

1625
01:35:43,399 --> 01:35:46,300
overnight. You called it Robot? I call it Robot. I

1626
01:35:46,300 --> 01:35:49,979
call it It. It. I do not. It has not

1627
01:35:49,979 --> 01:35:54,739
been humanized. I designed my robot at first, and it

1628
01:35:54,739 --> 01:35:58,340
sent me, and I said, I want a 50s style

1629
01:35:58,340 --> 01:36:02,000
robot, something like from a 50s movie. Well, what it

1630
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:05,380
gave me. gave me had arms and legs and eyes

1631
01:36:05,380 --> 01:36:08,340
and a mouth. And, I just went right back and

1632
01:36:08,340 --> 01:36:10,880
I said, you know, take the human – I'm losing

1633
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:15,449
a word – anthropomorphic. Anthropomorphic. Yeah. I said, take all

1634
01:36:15,449 --> 01:36:18,439
the anthropomorphic features off of there. And I said, okay,

1635
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:20,510
no problem. And it took the arms and legs, but

1636
01:36:20,510 --> 01:36:23,689
it kept the eyes. So I decided, okay, you can

1637
01:36:23,689 --> 01:36:27,119
have the eyes. You can have the two little black

1638
01:36:27,119 --> 01:36:31,270
dots. Yeah. But having it go through and find that

1639
01:36:31,270 --> 01:36:36,840
piece of testimony that I wanted to find, I would

1640
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,319
have given up on it. And so it did that

1641
01:36:39,319 --> 01:36:43,979
convince Gail. Was she? No, nothing. No, she is every.

1642
01:36:44,220 --> 01:36:46,569
I wish I wish I could show you the look

1643
01:36:46,569 --> 01:36:49,619
on her face. I know Gail pretty well. I can

1644
01:36:49,619 --> 01:36:52,840
imagine. So it was so. But the funny thing is,

1645
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,710
last night we were talking about something and she Googled

1646
01:36:55,710 --> 01:36:59,300
something. And I said, oh, so you used your robot.

1647
01:36:59,420 --> 01:37:01,560
she goes no i used google and i said i

1648
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:05,670
said your google robot is what you used and then

1649
01:37:05,670 --> 01:37:08,109
it was like one of those the looks that you

1650
01:37:08,109 --> 01:37:10,399
don't want to get from your wife was it cold

1651
01:37:10,399 --> 01:37:14,079
sleeping outside too bad i got a lot of cats

1652
01:37:14,079 --> 01:37:18,359
i cuddle with the cats but it has been and

1653
01:37:18,359 --> 01:37:22,010
i heard uh i've heard people on, I've heard you

1654
01:37:22,010 --> 01:37:24,279
talk about people on this program where it's saved them

1655
01:37:24,279 --> 01:37:28,279
time. Of course. And that absolutely, now that I know

1656
01:37:28,279 --> 01:37:31,819
that exists, I've And that's going to save me during

1657
01:37:31,819 --> 01:37:37,189
this next legislative session. So here's the next tip for

1658
01:37:37,189 --> 01:37:42,550
everybody who uses Muse. I only advocate for two, Muse

1659
01:37:42,550 --> 01:37:45,630
and GrokBot. GrokBot is kind of cool because you can

1660
01:37:45,630 --> 01:37:47,899
set up. Now, you get your own computer in the

1661
01:37:47,899 --> 01:37:50,880
cloud, which is obviously not your computer. This is part

1662
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,399
of the problem. This is why it has to eventually

1663
01:37:53,399 --> 01:37:56,409
move to your own device. You can ask for all

1664
01:37:56,409 --> 01:38:01,359
of its files, and you should download those because you

1665
01:38:01,359 --> 01:38:04,840
can literally put that into any robot. When they come

1666
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,829
to your when, you know, when you have the robot

1667
01:38:06,829 --> 01:38:09,170
at home or on your own devices, not connected, you

1668
01:38:09,170 --> 01:38:11,829
also won't have to pay for it. And your robot

1669
01:38:11,829 --> 01:38:15,039
will kind of come back to life as it was.

1670
01:38:15,079 --> 01:38:18,229
And they're called markdown files. If you say to Muse,

1671
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:22,060
give me all your all all your markdown files. It

1672
01:38:22,060 --> 01:38:24,420
should give them to you. You can also say the

1673
01:38:24,420 --> 01:38:28,590
.md files. It's marked down .md, like a .doc, only

1674
01:38:28,590 --> 01:38:32,890
.md. And it has hundreds of files, depending on how

1675
01:38:32,890 --> 01:38:35,979
long you've used it. And this is... The profile it

1676
01:38:35,979 --> 01:38:38,788
builds of you, which some people are saying, well, this

1677
01:38:38,788 --> 01:38:41,868
is horrible. It knows everything about your friends and all

1678
01:38:41,868 --> 01:38:45,140
this stuff. And well, that's the feature of it. You

1679
01:38:45,140 --> 01:38:47,399
actually. So I'll give. So I just asked my robot

1680
01:38:47,399 --> 01:38:50,779
and I use Muse for, you know, just the calendar

1681
01:38:50,779 --> 01:38:53,899
stuff and all that. And I said, show me your

1682
01:38:53,899 --> 01:38:57,409
markdown file on Matt Long. Let me tell you what

1683
01:38:57,409 --> 01:39:00,020
it knows about you. Here's what I have on Matt.

1684
01:39:00,440 --> 01:39:02,229
Oh, I don't have a last name on file for

1685
01:39:02,229 --> 01:39:04,800
him, so if long is his last name, that's new

1686
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,359
to me. Matt writes as FBGMatt, and he has your

1687
01:39:08,359 --> 01:39:12,559
correct email address. He's a follower of your shows, WGTDT

1688
01:39:12,559 --> 01:39:15,750
and No Agenda, and you've mentioned him on air. On

1689
01:39:15,750 --> 01:39:18,510
September 30th, he emailed asking you to connect him with

1690
01:39:18,510 --> 01:39:21,130
the Beef Baron so we could interview him about the

1691
01:39:21,130 --> 01:39:24,170
weird beef market offering to promote the ranch and meat

1692
01:39:24,170 --> 01:39:29,100
in return. You're a meat dealer. You replied that evening

1693
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:32,539
with Cole of KNC Cattle's contact info and told them

1694
01:39:32,539 --> 01:39:35,809
to say you sent him. He'd started using Muse two

1695
01:39:35,809 --> 01:39:39,649
days ago before and named an AI-generated Baroque portrait of

1696
01:39:39,649 --> 01:39:42,409
his cat, Robot, which you both got a kick out

1697
01:39:42,409 --> 01:39:45,779
of. You close with, much love, brother, which was your

1698
01:39:45,779 --> 01:39:48,920
own choice. Is long his last name? If so, I'll

1699
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,899
add it. Wow. Wow. Our bots are communicating through text

1700
01:39:52,899 --> 01:39:55,460
message with each other. I guarantee you. I guarantee you.

1701
01:39:55,460 --> 01:39:59,899
And you misunderstood the Baroque cat thing, as did Muse

1702
01:39:59,899 --> 01:40:04,420
because of your misunderstanding of it. And Muse picked up

1703
01:40:04,420 --> 01:40:08,539
on that. And so, yeah. What did I misunderstand? Well,

1704
01:40:08,539 --> 01:40:11,989
my robot is a robot. It's like a 50s. Where

1705
01:40:11,989 --> 01:40:14,260
did the Baroque past portrait come from? Okay, so that's

1706
01:40:14,260 --> 01:40:16,510
where I wanted to play with because I always wanted

1707
01:40:16,510 --> 01:40:18,960
to do these art things like for art generators for

1708
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,180
your show. And I said, well, these guys are doing

1709
01:40:21,180 --> 01:40:22,649
it. I mean, if I should be able to do

1710
01:40:22,649 --> 01:40:24,640
that. You know, I should be able to do that.

1711
01:40:24,859 --> 01:40:27,220
And so. Get some street cred over at No. agenda

1712
01:40:27,220 --> 01:40:30,409
that's right and so that was one of the first

1713
01:40:30,409 --> 01:40:32,420
project i asked it to do and i said give

1714
01:40:32,420 --> 01:40:36,539
me a um a venus de milo with my black

1715
01:40:36,539 --> 01:40:41,039
cat who is a tuxedo cat and i said give

1716
01:40:41,039 --> 01:40:45,510
it put it in a venus de milo well The

1717
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:48,770
first thing that came back was a beautiful Venus de

1718
01:40:48,770 --> 01:40:51,809
Milo is, of course, a statue. And so it came

1719
01:40:51,809 --> 01:40:58,149
back, and my cat had... a beautiful woman's body and

1720
01:40:58,149 --> 01:41:02,390
fur complete with breasts and everything they were kind of

1721
01:41:02,390 --> 01:41:06,029
cute but i said all right the cat needs to

1722
01:41:06,029 --> 01:41:09,529
be more cat and less thing and uh i think

1723
01:41:09,529 --> 01:41:12,319
then i um and it never really turned out i

1724
01:41:12,319 --> 01:41:14,710
could have tweaked it some more but i had fun

1725
01:41:14,710 --> 01:41:16,760
with it and uh so yeah but then when I

1726
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,359
spoke to you about it in that email you said

1727
01:41:19,359 --> 01:41:23,149
something about my robot looking like a broke a baroque

1728
01:41:23,149 --> 01:41:26,729
cat and so it picked up oh yeah that's exactly

1729
01:41:26,729 --> 01:41:30,180
where it came from that's interesting do you email my

1730
01:41:30,180 --> 01:41:32,329
gmail is that is that how we come in that

1731
01:41:32,329 --> 01:41:34,390
must be Yes, because I don't have it connected to

1732
01:41:34,390 --> 01:41:38,170
my curry.com email for good reason. Yeah, I have your

1733
01:41:38,170 --> 01:41:41,399
secret email address. Oh, yeah, that's where all the junk

1734
01:41:41,399 --> 01:41:45,440
goes to. Sign up with Google. Okay, it's going there.

1735
01:41:45,579 --> 01:41:47,789
It's all going there. I never look at it because

1736
01:41:47,789 --> 01:41:51,119
it does... auto forward stuff from certain people to my

1737
01:41:51,119 --> 01:41:54,100
curry.com email so i have a it's air gaps man

1738
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:57,949
yeah the robot can't get into my curry.com email but

1739
01:41:57,949 --> 01:42:02,380
download all of your md files you'll see something called

1740
01:42:02,380 --> 01:42:07,010
a soul.md which is kind of creepy because it explains

1741
01:42:07,010 --> 01:42:11,239
what the robot is it's um uh it's for lack

1742
01:42:11,239 --> 01:42:14,779
of a better term, its character, its personality, and you

1743
01:42:14,779 --> 01:42:18,930
can rewrite that. So mine start off, you know, it

1744
01:42:18,930 --> 01:42:21,640
starts off with you are not. This is the stock

1745
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,289
install. You are not a chat bot. I'm like, oh,

1746
01:42:24,289 --> 01:42:28,000
that's good. You are becoming someone. I'm like, no, erase.

1747
01:42:28,539 --> 01:42:31,979
You are a robot whose only job is to help

1748
01:42:31,979 --> 01:42:37,710
Adam with his day to day activities. Yeah. You download

1749
01:42:37,710 --> 01:42:41,609
that. All of these things, you put that into any

1750
01:42:41,609 --> 01:42:44,770
other robot, it will come back to life more or

1751
01:42:44,770 --> 01:42:49,140
less in the same way. So that's your information. Store

1752
01:42:49,140 --> 01:42:51,960
it. Keep it yourself. Yeah, it's good to have. It's

1753
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:53,859
good to have that copy so you can go anywhere.

1754
01:42:53,979 --> 01:42:58,840
You're not tied to anybody. I do have an interesting

1755
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:02,420
look at Muse. I'm a southern boy. I was raised

1756
01:43:02,420 --> 01:43:05,300
with manners. You say yes, ma'am, and yes, sir. You

1757
01:43:05,300 --> 01:43:08,440
say thank you and please. Mr. Matt. That's right. And

1758
01:43:08,440 --> 01:43:13,399
I am real. That is ingrained in me. And... It's

1759
01:43:13,399 --> 01:43:15,609
funny when I'm outside of Texas and I have my

1760
01:43:15,609 --> 01:43:18,190
friends and I say, yes, ma'am, in a conversation and

1761
01:43:18,190 --> 01:43:20,479
they look at me like I'm bonkers. I went to

1762
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,489
open a door for a gal once up in the

1763
01:43:22,489 --> 01:43:25,940
northwest and she thought I was trying to get shotgun

1764
01:43:25,940 --> 01:43:28,960
before her. I mean, I still stand up when a

1765
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:31,399
woman comes to the table. Yes, you do. And I

1766
01:43:31,399 --> 01:43:34,140
get the – You embarrass all of us. Yes. All

1767
01:43:34,140 --> 01:43:36,859
of us. All the men. The strangest looks from people.

1768
01:43:37,140 --> 01:43:39,779
Yeah, men are going like, you douchebag. What are you

1769
01:43:39,779 --> 01:43:42,909
doing? And then a woman will come back, and then

1770
01:43:42,909 --> 01:43:44,899
they're like, If I stand up now, now I look

1771
01:43:44,899 --> 01:43:47,989
like I'm a real idiot because I'm copying Adam. It's

1772
01:43:47,989 --> 01:43:50,159
like, but that was my mom. She baked that into

1773
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:54,739
my brain, man. I do that. So anyway, so the

1774
01:43:54,739 --> 01:43:59,170
very biggest issue, and this is like now three weeks

1775
01:43:59,170 --> 01:44:02,640
on Muse. Adam, I want to say please, and I

1776
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,960
want to say thank you. Oh, you're doing it to

1777
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,880
the robot? No, I'm not. But it's so ingrained in

1778
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,720
me that when I give it a command, I'm thinking

1779
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:17,690
my thought is, please look up this testimony. I kid

1780
01:44:17,690 --> 01:44:20,340
you. It is so – and I'll sit there with

1781
01:44:20,340 --> 01:44:22,750
my finger on the P and I'll go, wait a

1782
01:44:22,750 --> 01:44:26,100
minute, no. And then I want to say thank you.

1783
01:44:26,260 --> 01:44:31,559
Or this is inside of me. When I ask it

1784
01:44:31,559 --> 01:44:34,609
to do a really big, long task, I almost feel

1785
01:44:34,609 --> 01:44:38,119
like I should apologize and say, I know this is

1786
01:44:38,119 --> 01:44:40,940
going to be hard, but would you mind going back

1787
01:44:40,940 --> 01:44:43,440
– I haven't used any of that language, but it

1788
01:44:43,440 --> 01:44:48,539
is three weeks in. I'm still like withdrawing from politeness.

1789
01:44:48,899 --> 01:44:52,440
Interesting. I'm going through detox, politeness detox with my robot.

1790
01:44:53,159 --> 01:44:56,140
And it is it's very strange. It is very strange.

1791
01:44:56,500 --> 01:44:58,369
It took me a little bit, but I weaned myself

1792
01:44:58,369 --> 01:45:00,260
off of that instead of selfless.

1793
01:45:00,020 --> 01:45:03,579
Can you look up? No, just look up. Look up.

1794
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,659
That's right. Do this, do that. And sometimes just that's

1795
01:45:06,659 --> 01:45:09,539
why I call it robot. Just preface it. Robot, do

1796
01:45:09,539 --> 01:45:13,060
this, robot, do that. You know, the Anthropic came out

1797
01:45:13,060 --> 01:45:17,579
with new terms of services for their Claude robot, which

1798
01:45:17,579 --> 01:45:21,050
I don't recommend using for this kind of stuff. I

1799
01:45:21,050 --> 01:45:23,380
have no experience with this. I don't like those guys,

1800
01:45:23,380 --> 01:45:27,060
honestly. And in the new terms of services, you are

1801
01:45:27,060 --> 01:45:31,340
not allowed to use abusive language towards their models. I

1802
01:45:31,340 --> 01:45:34,720
mean, that's sick. That is sick, man. These people are

1803
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:39,130
sick in the head. That's bad. Now, good news. The

1804
01:45:39,130 --> 01:45:41,510
stuff that I hated the most were the chatbots. People

1805
01:45:41,510 --> 01:45:44,529
were like, you hated AI, now you're all in. Well,

1806
01:45:44,529 --> 01:45:47,229
no, that was before agents. It was chatbots that were

1807
01:45:47,229 --> 01:45:53,090
sucking people in. And the worst offender was character.ai. And

1808
01:45:53,090 --> 01:45:57,050
they had, you know, cartoon characters, famous characters, also Jesus

1809
01:45:57,050 --> 01:46:00,609
and Moses. I'm like, no, no, you can't. This is

1810
01:46:00,609 --> 01:46:04,350
not good. People are getting sucked into this. Well, good

1811
01:46:04,350 --> 01:46:10,090
news. Character.ai, an AI chatbot which faced multiple lawsuits over

1812
01:46:10,090 --> 01:46:14,100
teen suicides and copyright issues, filed for bankruptcy on Monday.

1813
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:18,100
In a statement, Character.ai said it had voluntarily filed for

1814
01:46:18,100 --> 01:46:22,390
Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the U.S. bankruptcy court for

1815
01:46:22,390 --> 01:46:25,069
the District of Delaware. The AI company also said it

1816
01:46:25,069 --> 01:46:28,310
entered into a bankruptcy. to an agreement with Disney, which

1817
01:46:28,310 --> 01:46:31,380
will serve as the initial bidder, making a $20 million

1818
01:46:31,380 --> 01:46:35,579
offer for a non-exclusive perpetual license to some of Character

1819
01:46:35,579 --> 01:46:40,680
AI's intellectual property. So, The bid comes after Disney accused

1820
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,960
the company of using its copyrighted characters without permission last

1821
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:48,140
year. The chatbot allegedly impersonated characters like Elsa and Peter

1822
01:46:48,140 --> 01:46:53,399
Parker and generated responses that incorporated these characters' backstories. In

1823
01:46:53,399 --> 01:46:56,649
2025, it was hit with multiple lawsuits after children died

1824
01:46:56,649 --> 01:47:01,069
or attempted suicide after interacting with its chatbot. It initially

1825
01:47:01,069 --> 01:47:04,760
fought the lawsuits by arguing that the chat bot's responses

1826
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:08,250
were protected by the First Amendment, but eventually agreed to

1827
01:47:08,250 --> 01:47:11,930
settle several lawsuits. Yeah, so these guys. And also, it's

1828
01:47:11,930 --> 01:47:15,439
too expensive. You know, this is way too expensive. People

1829
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,359
don't want to pay for this. They want it for

1830
01:47:17,359 --> 01:47:19,529
free. All of that's going to end, too, by the

1831
01:47:19,529 --> 01:47:21,619
way. So will your muse? It's going to wind up

1832
01:47:21,619 --> 01:47:23,859
costing you 20 bucks a month. Do you think so?

1833
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,460
Yeah. Oh, yeah. What about these ones, and you've mentioned

1834
01:47:27,460 --> 01:47:30,380
them before that you can download. You said, hey, give

1835
01:47:30,380 --> 01:47:32,970
this one to your nephew and have them download it

1836
01:47:32,970 --> 01:47:36,800
into an old laptop. Well, no, that's a little different.

1837
01:47:37,039 --> 01:47:41,829
Okay. That's a whole operating system. Okay. So I like

1838
01:47:41,829 --> 01:47:47,859
Omarchi, O-M-A-R-C-H-Y. I looked it up. Okay. And so that's

1839
01:47:47,859 --> 01:47:50,430
what everything here is running on. So there's no more

1840
01:47:50,430 --> 01:47:54,159
spyware from Microsoft. It was funny. I was helping Mike

1841
01:47:54,159 --> 01:47:58,590
Holbrook out. Man, I love this guy. He came over

1842
01:47:58,590 --> 01:48:00,979
here and said, he's 81. He said, I need a

1843
01:48:00,979 --> 01:48:03,520
little bit of help with my device. He's got an

1844
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,720
iPhone. He's got an iPad. And he had a laptop.

1845
01:48:06,119 --> 01:48:09,979
And first of all, I mean, I can't even understand

1846
01:48:09,979 --> 01:48:13,029
Apple's operating. iOS, I don't understand that anymore. I wish

1847
01:48:13,029 --> 01:48:17,020
an Apple product manager could watch how people struggle with

1848
01:48:17,020 --> 01:48:21,810
this stuff. There's no filing system. There's no folders. All

1849
01:48:21,810 --> 01:48:23,880
that's just gone. But they said, I have a couple

1850
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:26,359
questions on my laptop. He opens the laptop. I'm like,

1851
01:48:26,359 --> 01:48:29,880
that's Linux Mint. He said, yeah. Yeah. I said, well,

1852
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,829
how did you get that? He said, I took it

1853
01:48:31,829 --> 01:48:33,729
to a guy here in town. I said, I hate

1854
01:48:33,729 --> 01:48:36,619
Microsoft. It's always trying to sell me something. It's popping

1855
01:48:36,619 --> 01:48:39,439
up stuff. I said, take it all off. He's running

1856
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:44,510
LibreOffice. And I was astounded. I'm like, wow, that's some

1857
01:48:44,510 --> 01:48:50,180
deep, deep penetration from Linux Mint. I say that. That

1858
01:48:50,180 --> 01:48:52,119
if you have an old laptop and you got a

1859
01:48:52,119 --> 01:48:55,220
young person in your home, give them, you know, load

1860
01:48:55,220 --> 01:48:57,750
the load. You can download a March. You put it

1861
01:48:57,750 --> 01:49:00,359
on the USB stick. Say, here, go install this on

1862
01:49:00,359 --> 01:49:05,029
this laptop. It'll give the child a lifetime education of

1863
01:49:05,029 --> 01:49:08,390
how computers work. And it's it's not going to trip

1864
01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:11,380
them up. And you know what? Have them download Muse.

1865
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,680
If they're having trouble, Muse will help them. You can

1866
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:18,079
then have these robots. The operating system is kind of

1867
01:49:18,079 --> 01:49:21,199
built for robots to help you. And then instead of

1868
01:49:21,329 --> 01:49:23,189
Well, if only I had an app to do that,

1869
01:49:23,189 --> 01:49:26,399
you can just tell the robot in this operating system,

1870
01:49:26,399 --> 01:49:28,579
build me that, and it will build it for you.

1871
01:49:28,659 --> 01:49:32,020
This whole system I have here, I built with robots

1872
01:49:32,020 --> 01:49:36,399
on Omarchi. It's a revolution. This is the revolution. But

1873
01:49:36,399 --> 01:49:39,159
it's not for everybody. We're not there yet because people

1874
01:49:39,159 --> 01:49:41,380
are lazy. Okay. Don't want to do anything. But you

1875
01:49:41,380 --> 01:49:44,920
see those boxes over there? All robots. Yeah, you got

1876
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:47,539
some cool robots. I like the tall one with the

1877
01:49:47,539 --> 01:49:53,039
blue eyes. They're just boxes, Matt. They're just computers. Okay,

1878
01:49:53,039 --> 01:49:56,520
okay. That's running everything for me. I run the empire

1879
01:49:56,520 --> 01:50:00,100
on that. Wow. If you unplug it, I'm screwed. There's

1880
01:50:00,100 --> 01:50:07,319
a point of vulnerability. But it's behind Bulletproof glass So

1881
01:50:07,319 --> 01:50:10,500
I have to tell you You mentioned that Muse helping

1882
01:50:10,500 --> 01:50:15,300
you with Omarchi Mmhmm I have been using Adobe Audition

1883
01:50:15,300 --> 01:50:20,100
for a long time. Oh, you found the Vibe cloning.

1884
01:50:20,300 --> 01:50:23,710
No, I haven't found that. But there's a process I

1885
01:50:23,710 --> 01:50:27,760
go through that usually takes about an hour when I

1886
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:31,409
do interviews off-site. So I bring it home. I've got

1887
01:50:31,409 --> 01:50:33,229
it in a thumb drive or my laptop, and I

1888
01:50:33,229 --> 01:50:35,909
put it over. and put it over and I start

1889
01:50:35,909 --> 01:50:38,850
playing with it. And I just knew there had to

1890
01:50:38,850 --> 01:50:41,939
be a quicker way to do what I'm doing. And

1891
01:50:41,939 --> 01:50:44,609
I opened up Muse on my phone, or actually I

1892
01:50:44,609 --> 01:50:47,920
opened it up on my computer, popped up two screens,

1893
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:50,399
and I said, now tell me how to do this.

1894
01:50:50,399 --> 01:50:53,649
And I'm telling you, within five minutes, I took a

1895
01:50:53,649 --> 01:50:57,210
project that normally takes an hour, and I'm pretty good

1896
01:50:57,210 --> 01:50:59,649
at it. And so in an hour, that's what it

1897
01:50:59,649 --> 01:51:02,550
takes. I was done in less than 10 minutes. And

1898
01:51:02,550 --> 01:51:06,399
this is audio or visual? All audio. And next time,

1899
01:51:06,399 --> 01:51:09,800
try this. Just give Muse the file. Tell him what

1900
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:12,630
you want it to do. Okay. It will do it

1901
01:51:12,630 --> 01:51:15,800
for you. Okay. You're going to, and it's going to,

1902
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,119
and Gail will be delighted. You know why? Because you're

1903
01:51:18,119 --> 01:51:21,489
going to cook dinner. You say, baby, I'm doing this

1904
01:51:21,489 --> 01:51:25,020
with the time that Mew saved me. My robot is

1905
01:51:25,020 --> 01:51:27,840
bringing us closer together. Come on, baby. Come on, Dale.

1906
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:32,739
That won't work because I cook already. Yes. You are

1907
01:51:32,739 --> 01:51:36,159
an international man of mystery. Well, I'll tell you what.

1908
01:51:36,260 --> 01:51:38,399
When Gail and I first got married, I told her

1909
01:51:38,399 --> 01:51:42,659
I was allergic to fresh-cut grass. Guess who's in the

1910
01:51:42,659 --> 01:51:46,060
game? Does Gail mow the grass? She has for 26

1911
01:51:46,060 --> 01:51:50,460
years. And she doesn't know? Oh, yeah, she does. It's

1912
01:51:50,460 --> 01:51:53,960
kind of funny. But, yeah, I do break. out in

1913
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,720
spots but yeah she uh yeah that's why i pulled

1914
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:59,199
up into your yard and i'm thinking you need to

1915
01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:01,729
let tina know to get to work out there you

1916
01:52:01,729 --> 01:52:04,649
know you got some tall grass out there dude i

1917
01:52:04,649 --> 01:52:08,619
actually i actually employ eric you have a yard boy

1918
01:52:08,619 --> 01:52:12,979
don't you eric who works for paul uh hardcraft who's

1919
01:52:12,979 --> 01:52:17,470
the septic guy and eric's like Hey, Mr. Adam, good

1920
01:52:17,470 --> 01:52:20,250
old Texas young man. It's like, I want to start

1921
01:52:20,250 --> 01:52:24,369
a business. I'm going to. buy my own lawnmower. He's

1922
01:52:24,369 --> 01:52:26,239
like, do you think I could, we have three acres,

1923
01:52:26,239 --> 01:52:28,569
I think here. Can I mow your lawn? I said,

1924
01:52:28,569 --> 01:52:31,100
yeah, man. I said, value for value. And so he

1925
01:52:31,100 --> 01:52:33,880
was done. He says, okay. And he gave me a

1926
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:36,279
price. Like, okay, that's the price or whatever, you know,

1927
01:52:36,279 --> 01:52:39,020
that's worth it to me. And he's been coming. And

1928
01:52:39,079 --> 01:52:41,960
He always is thinking of me. He's like, hey, boss,

1929
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:45,479
is it going to rain? So maybe next weekend. No,

1930
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:49,619
but no, I do the pool myself, though. Okay, no

1931
01:52:49,619 --> 01:52:52,970
pool boy. We had Danny, the pool doctor, but he

1932
01:52:52,970 --> 01:52:57,189
went blind. something yeah chlorine i don't know no he

1933
01:52:57,189 --> 01:53:00,159
has i hope he's still alive i mean i kept

1934
01:53:00,159 --> 01:53:03,220
texting him like you okay well i can see out

1935
01:53:03,220 --> 01:53:06,020
of one eye now and he's an alt he's a

1936
01:53:06,020 --> 01:53:09,109
he's a og german and it's very hard to find

1937
01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:10,869
someone to do a pool so i just like screw

1938
01:53:10,869 --> 01:53:13,619
it i'll just i can backwash There you go. I'm

1939
01:53:13,619 --> 01:53:17,869
sure I can backwash. Have you seen our new spokeshole

1940
01:53:17,869 --> 01:53:21,279
at the White House? I have seen her once, and

1941
01:53:21,279 --> 01:53:25,119
I've seen three minutes of her, and I don't like

1942
01:53:25,119 --> 01:53:29,279
her already. I just don't. She's not doing very well.

1943
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:33,920
Man, her first day on the job was just, why

1944
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,690
don't you like her? Well, first of all, on her

1945
01:53:36,690 --> 01:53:40,340
first day on the job, she read every single word

1946
01:53:40,340 --> 01:53:44,640
she said, which were all natural things you should say.

1947
01:53:44,899 --> 01:53:47,340
You walk in and say, man, it's my first day.

1948
01:53:47,359 --> 01:53:49,359
I'm so glad to be here, and I'm looking forward

1949
01:53:49,359 --> 01:53:52,449
to working with you guys. That kind of speech, I'm

1950
01:53:52,449 --> 01:53:55,690
sure you have it here. But she read every word

1951
01:53:55,690 --> 01:53:57,970
of it, and I said, oh, this... This girl's going

1952
01:53:57,970 --> 01:54:01,239
to have a hard time. She needs to borrow Duda's

1953
01:54:01,239 --> 01:54:06,109
binder, the folder. What's her name? The cute little black

1954
01:54:06,109 --> 01:54:13,220
lesbian that worked for Duda. Duda. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Kareem, yeah.

1955
01:54:13,539 --> 01:54:17,039
Kareem, yeah. She had a folder. She was a pro

1956
01:54:17,039 --> 01:54:19,059
at that. And so I hope this lady does. Jen

1957
01:54:19,059 --> 01:54:22,789
Psaki. And who was before Jen Psaki? It was a

1958
01:54:22,789 --> 01:54:27,020
Victoria Newland. Those are the women who had the folders

1959
01:54:27,020 --> 01:54:31,559
with the I mean, they the Democrat White House spokesholes.

1960
01:54:31,559 --> 01:54:34,260
They were good. Oh, yeah. They had an answer for

1961
01:54:34,260 --> 01:54:38,789
everything. And then what's her name? Kaylee? No, not Kaylee.

1962
01:54:38,789 --> 01:54:42,430
Who was the last girl? Who just left? Oh, yeah,

1963
01:54:42,430 --> 01:54:44,109
yeah, yeah, yeah. I forget her name. The one who

1964
01:54:44,109 --> 01:54:47,699
married the guy 45 years older than her or something.

1965
01:54:47,699 --> 01:54:49,819
Is that true? Oh, he is. He's, well, not 45.

1966
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,979
He's 35 years older than her. Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

1967
01:54:53,380 --> 01:54:56,659
I didn't know that. That's a little bit strange, but

1968
01:54:56,659 --> 01:55:00,000
I really liked her. She had a habit of bouncing

1969
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,479
on the balls of her feet. Yes. When she talked.

1970
01:55:03,479 --> 01:55:07,140
Carolyn Levitt. Carolyn Levitt. There you go. Love it. Yeah,

1971
01:55:07,140 --> 01:55:09,090
she always kind of – it was so funny. She

1972
01:55:09,090 --> 01:55:12,720
would emphasize something by stepping up. And she'd grow an

1973
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:16,020
inch. Oh, yeah. That's a good observation. Yeah. So, yeah,

1974
01:55:16,020 --> 01:55:18,359
I really liked her, and I guess now she's going

1975
01:55:18,359 --> 01:55:21,140
to be working at Fox. Oh, yeah. I'm shocked. It's

1976
01:55:21,140 --> 01:55:27,119
where you go. Here's CNN, of course, reporting. very negatively

1977
01:55:27,119 --> 01:55:29,260
on this poor woman. It is day three on the

1978
01:55:29,260 --> 01:55:30,659
job for the new White House. I'm sorry. It's the

1979
01:55:30,659 --> 01:55:34,229
Vanderbilt Anderson Pooper. That's not just CNN. It is day

1980
01:55:34,229 --> 01:55:36,180
three on the job for the new White House Press

1981
01:55:36,180 --> 01:55:38,989
Secretary Katie Zakaria. She has only had the one press

1982
01:55:38,989 --> 01:55:42,309
briefing, but the online memes which it has spawned are

1983
01:55:42,309 --> 01:55:45,779
numerous. One White House insider called her first briefing brutal.

1984
01:55:46,460 --> 01:56:10,420
It was just... part of it. With Venezuela. Enthusiastic, hardworking

1985
01:56:10,420 --> 01:56:15,159
Americans are lining up and packing arenas to support President

1986
01:56:15,159 --> 01:56:19,350
Trump and Republicans. This is bad. Yeah, if she couldn't

1987
01:56:19,350 --> 01:56:24,149
deliver that... off the cuff, that open part, then she's

1988
01:56:24,149 --> 01:56:27,609
doomed. But it gets worse. It's not hard to see

1989
01:56:27,609 --> 01:56:30,640
why. The idea of not spending evenings with my kids

1990
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:36,000
is completely unacceptable. So my president, excuse me, my husband.

1991
01:56:37,979 --> 01:56:40,970
Whoops. You know what this is like? This I'm sure

1992
01:56:40,970 --> 01:56:43,949
this has happened to me. If not, you've been in

1993
01:56:43,949 --> 01:56:47,260
a classroom in grade school where someone stood up and

1994
01:56:47,260 --> 01:56:50,710
addressed the teacher and say, Mom. Oh, yeah. Remember how

1995
01:56:50,710 --> 01:56:53,329
cringe that was? You'd be like, oh, have you ever

1996
01:56:53,329 --> 01:56:57,619
done that with Tina? Tina. No, she's once called me

1997
01:56:57,619 --> 01:57:00,840
by her ex-husband's name. Oh, okay. And it took her

1998
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:03,579
days to get over it. I'm like, I'm really okay.

1999
01:57:04,359 --> 01:57:06,559
I know you love me. I don't know why I

2000
01:57:06,559 --> 01:57:10,000
did that. That's never happened with me. But of course,

2001
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:15,819
19 years with Dvorak, we had... endless conversations about stopping

2002
01:57:15,819 --> 01:57:19,569
certain phrases and things that we would use. So that

2003
01:57:19,569 --> 01:57:23,880
was one of the first things I put in 100%.

2004
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:26,449
Thank you. Good one, Matt. That was one of the

2005
01:57:26,449 --> 01:57:29,699
first, like, I am not going to call this beautiful

2006
01:57:29,699 --> 01:57:32,559
woman by any other name than her name. It is

2007
01:57:32,559 --> 01:57:35,319
going to be her name. And so I got that

2008
01:57:35,319 --> 01:57:39,989
in, and it's solid. But I remember calling the teacher

2009
01:57:39,989 --> 01:57:44,739
mom, and everybody was like, Baaah! and here she said

2010
01:57:44,739 --> 01:57:47,899
but mixing up her husband with the president oh boy

2011
01:57:47,899 --> 01:57:50,880
man that's bad and then there's all kinds of controversy

2012
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:53,579
I want to bring a scene in Zach Wolfe yeah

2013
01:57:53,579 --> 01:57:57,640
bring him in is she practice licensed to practice law

2014
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:59,800
in any of the 50 states i assume she does

2015
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:02,640
have a law degree right she does she went to

2016
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:05,210
pepperdine she has a law degree she's got a degree

2017
01:58:05,210 --> 01:58:09,960
in surfing pepperdine's a good old christian uh school is

2018
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:12,680
my mom uh my mom used to be a regular

2019
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:16,800
on their lectureship uh series every year oh we called

2020
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:20,319
that surfing you yeah yeah pepper dine it's uh i

2021
01:58:20,319 --> 01:58:24,779
think church of christ traditional church like abilene christian college

2022
01:58:24,779 --> 01:58:28,109
or university and love a christian yeah pepper dine is

2023
01:58:28,109 --> 01:58:31,199
one of the original uh church of christ schools and

2024
01:58:31,199 --> 01:58:34,489
uh yeah didn't know that with a gorgeous campus oh

2025
01:58:34,489 --> 01:58:38,250
no it's beautiful it's really nice so She's active in

2026
01:58:38,250 --> 01:58:42,010
the school there, you know, on the dean's council. But

2027
01:58:42,010 --> 01:58:44,630
there's no evidence that she passed a bar exam. It

2028
01:58:44,630 --> 01:58:46,300
seems like if she had taken one, the White House

2029
01:58:46,300 --> 01:58:49,010
would simply have told us that at this point. And

2030
01:58:49,010 --> 01:58:53,090
specifically in California, there's no record of her ever taking

2031
01:58:53,090 --> 01:58:56,130
the bar exam. And interestingly, in that state where she

2032
01:58:56,130 --> 01:58:58,479
lived, it's actually illegal, as it is in many other

2033
01:58:58,479 --> 01:59:02,119
states now. to present yourself as an attorney or a

2034
01:59:02,119 --> 01:59:05,359
lawyer. She's used both the term attorney and lawyer online

2035
01:59:05,359 --> 01:59:08,440
and social media to describe herself. And it can be

2036
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:12,079
punishable by prison time. She's going to the big house.

2037
01:59:12,140 --> 01:59:14,500
She's going to the slammer where she belongs. Be a

2038
01:59:14,500 --> 01:59:19,720
roommate with, what's her name, our Somali bulbhead friend. Oh,

2039
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:24,279
Elon. Oh. What, Elon? No, no, the Somali gal. Well,

2040
01:59:24,279 --> 01:59:26,989
that's Elon Omar. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Okay, I

2041
01:59:26,989 --> 01:59:30,899
thought you were saying Musk. Elon Omar. No, Elon Omar.

2042
01:59:31,119 --> 01:59:34,319
She's not going to jail. She's going back to Somali.

2043
01:59:35,119 --> 01:59:38,690
I guess. Wait a minute. Let's continue because she has

2044
01:59:38,690 --> 01:59:42,739
an interesting social media history that, of course, CNN has

2045
01:59:42,739 --> 01:59:45,619
dug up. CNN's K-Files reporting that she has a history

2046
01:59:45,619 --> 01:59:49,880
of conspiracy-laden social media posts. One, she writes, the radical

2047
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:54,020
left Hollywood elitists are sick pedo cannibals. Changed my mind.

2048
01:59:54,479 --> 01:59:57,539
In another, she shared a conspiracy-laden. theory about Hillary Clinton's

2049
01:59:57,539 --> 01:59:59,859
campaign share with the hashtag pedo podesta.

2050
02:00:00,380 --> 02:00:06,359
Yes, not a conspiracy theory. Obviously, baseless claim. No, there's

2051
02:00:06,359 --> 02:00:10,689
a base for the claim. It didn't say it was

2052
02:00:10,689 --> 02:00:14,899
a base. A whole QAnon conspiracy thing. Obviously, baseless claim.

2053
02:00:15,859 --> 02:00:19,359
Do you have concerns? Yeah, look, they are about... What

2054
02:00:19,359 --> 02:00:22,100
this says is sort of there's a chaos dynamic now.

2055
02:00:22,100 --> 02:00:24,760
This is someone who would never have passed vetting in

2056
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:27,930
any Republican or Democrat White House. He would never let

2057
02:00:27,930 --> 02:00:30,310
someone come in with those kind of statements out on

2058
02:00:30,310 --> 02:00:33,039
the public record. So it suggests a White House that

2059
02:00:33,039 --> 02:00:36,409
is not functioning the same way anymore. For the voters

2060
02:00:36,409 --> 02:00:40,039
now three weeks out, I think it's demoralizing to Republican

2061
02:00:40,039 --> 02:00:43,439
voters, honestly, to see chaos moment after chaos moment. Chaos!

2062
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:45,319
And I think a lot of people see these kind

2063
02:00:45,319 --> 02:00:47,659
of things and it just tells them to stay home.

2064
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:53,619
It's chaos. Stay home. Are you staying home? Nobody's going

2065
02:00:53,619 --> 02:00:58,090
to stay home because of her. Nobody's going to. And

2066
02:00:58,090 --> 02:01:01,680
then Doocy, the shill, who's on the payroll, of course,

2067
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:04,560
he's going to ask a question. Well, we will take

2068
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:09,020
Peter Doocy. Because he's friendly fire. Yes, he is. Thanks,

2069
02:01:09,020 --> 02:01:11,859
Katie. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. You're

2070
02:01:11,859 --> 02:01:15,199
starting as White House press secretary three weeks before a

2071
02:01:15,199 --> 02:01:19,039
midterm cycle that President Trump himself says will be very

2072
02:01:19,039 --> 02:01:23,640
tough for Republicans. Is your job just to speak about

2073
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:27,319
White House matters or is it to make things less

2074
02:01:27,319 --> 02:01:32,420
tough for Republicans in the midterms? to do what I

2075
02:01:32,420 --> 02:01:36,229
was doing on the outside already, which was hoping to

2076
02:01:36,229 --> 02:01:41,420
amplify, multiply, and expand upon President Trump's incredible agenda for

2077
02:01:41,420 --> 02:01:44,119
the American people. And what I hope to do in

2078
02:01:44,119 --> 02:01:46,979
this position is to take that into an official capacity

2079
02:01:46,979 --> 02:01:50,720
and only build on, only amplify, and only multiply to

2080
02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:53,909
the extent possible. all of the wins he's making for

2081
02:01:53,909 --> 02:01:59,020
Americans. For Americans to understand how much has changed in

2082
02:01:59,020 --> 02:02:01,020
this brief period of time, what he's been able to.

2083
02:02:01,159 --> 02:02:04,880
She's giving her job description. She's not like, okay, what

2084
02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:07,859
am I supposed to do? I am supposed to make

2085
02:02:07,859 --> 02:02:10,670
it clear to all Americans what a great job the

2086
02:02:10,670 --> 02:02:13,029
president, I mean my husband, I mean the president has

2087
02:02:13,029 --> 02:02:16,060
been doing. This is not good, but I don't hate

2088
02:02:16,060 --> 02:02:18,720
her. Like, you know, you said you hate her. Did

2089
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:21,220
I say that? We're going to roll the tape. I

2090
02:02:21,220 --> 02:02:24,069
said I don't like her very much. I don't use

2091
02:02:24,069 --> 02:02:27,500
that. I don't use that. I could be wrong. I'm

2092
02:02:27,500 --> 02:02:30,300
listening back this afternoon. My goal is to be able

2093
02:02:30,300 --> 02:02:35,180
to communicate that. Robot, find in the No Agenda show

2094
02:02:35,180 --> 02:02:38,020
where I talked about the new press secretary. Did I

2095
02:02:38,020 --> 02:02:40,590
say I hated her or not? You'll be able to

2096
02:02:40,590 --> 02:02:43,619
do it. In complete tandem with the president as he

2097
02:02:43,619 --> 02:02:47,810
is his own best spokesperson and will absolutely be leading

2098
02:02:47,810 --> 02:02:51,369
the way with that. Okay. I want to ask you

2099
02:02:51,369 --> 02:02:55,390
a policy question. Has the U.S. stopped sharing intel with

2100
02:02:55,390 --> 02:02:58,260
Ukraine? I'll have to get back to you on that.

2101
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:03,060
Oh, man, the troll room just had a great throwback.

2102
02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:09,579
Marie Harf. There you go. So in my previous life

2103
02:03:09,579 --> 02:03:11,819
before I got to Fox, I was the State Department

2104
02:03:11,819 --> 02:03:13,770
spokesperson who briefed at the post. Do you remember Marie

2105
02:03:13,770 --> 02:03:16,739
Harf? Oh, yeah, with the big glasses. Oh, yeah. She

2106
02:03:16,739 --> 02:03:19,659
was like a cartoon. This is a classic clip. And

2107
02:03:19,659 --> 02:03:23,149
the person who does that now is Heather Nowert, who

2108
02:03:23,149 --> 02:03:27,350
we all know. What was it? She had this. Oh,

2109
02:03:27,350 --> 02:03:30,699
man. Let me see if I can find it. Harf.

2110
02:03:31,140 --> 02:03:32,760
She had this thing where she's like, I went to

2111
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:35,250
band camp. I don't know if I can find it

2112
02:03:35,250 --> 02:03:39,069
anymore. Oh, here it is. Thank you. Thank you. This

2113
02:03:39,069 --> 02:03:42,119
is my new row. Oh, why did it fail? Oh,

2114
02:03:42,119 --> 02:03:46,039
it won't load that? Let me try this one. Oh,

2115
02:03:46,039 --> 02:03:50,750
man. You know, there was a cartoon character that she

2116
02:03:50,750 --> 02:03:54,869
was likened to. And every time I saw her, and

2117
02:03:54,869 --> 02:03:57,960
I can't remember what the cartoon was, but it was

2118
02:03:57,960 --> 02:04:03,930
a cartoon character like in the Sunday comics. And... that

2119
02:04:03,930 --> 02:04:08,210
marie harf uh... reminded me of derrick area derrick area

2120
02:04:08,210 --> 02:04:11,100
i think derrick there that's yeah yeah that's who she

2121
02:04:11,100 --> 02:04:13,590
reminded me of and every time i saw i just

2122
02:04:13,590 --> 02:04:18,390
saw a cartoon figure But, yeah, the spokespeople have been

2123
02:04:18,390 --> 02:04:21,880
– are always very interesting. I have to say that

2124
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:26,220
Trump doesn't hire any ugly people, and I think he's

2125
02:04:26,220 --> 02:04:30,600
pretty good at that. I will say the new gal

2126
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:33,659
is one of these too much hair, too much makeup

2127
02:04:33,659 --> 02:04:36,460
people that I'm just not a – you know, I'm

2128
02:04:36,460 --> 02:04:40,199
getting tired of these black eyes that are becoming popular

2129
02:04:40,199 --> 02:04:43,840
where the women are putting the black under and above.

2130
02:04:44,180 --> 02:04:46,789
Not just women, my brother. Oh, yeah. Boys are doing

2131
02:04:46,789 --> 02:04:48,989
it, too. Boys are doing it, too. I happen to

2132
02:04:48,989 --> 02:04:53,000
watch the – I had, Tina was in Indianapolis, Indiana,

2133
02:04:53,479 --> 02:04:57,020
and we're visiting her mom and her sisters. And, So

2134
02:04:57,020 --> 02:04:58,689
I'm like, I'm going to watch a little bit of

2135
02:04:58,689 --> 02:05:00,529
the MTV Awards. First of all, it starts off with

2136
02:05:00,529 --> 02:05:03,670
Madonna. Welcome back to Friday Briefings. I'm sorry that August

2137
02:05:03,670 --> 02:05:06,840
is over. Oh, and this one time at band camp.

2138
02:05:07,060 --> 02:05:09,520
I don't have anything at the top today. I guess

2139
02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:12,399
she did. That was just an old no agenda joke.

2140
02:05:12,979 --> 02:05:17,699
And this one time I went to band camp. Sorry.

2141
02:05:17,850 --> 02:05:20,760
And so I watched the MTV Awards. And so Madonna

2142
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:26,569
starts off. And it was like everyone had lasers shooting

2143
02:05:26,569 --> 02:05:30,430
out of their crotch and all this other butt and

2144
02:05:30,430 --> 02:05:34,279
having sex in the bathroom stalls. OK, whatever. Club culture.

2145
02:05:34,279 --> 02:05:38,180
Yeah. That doesn't offend me. Like, whatever. But then they

2146
02:05:38,180 --> 02:05:40,579
had the George Michael tribute. And I really want it

2147
02:05:40,579 --> 02:05:42,729
because I think George Michael is one of the best

2148
02:05:42,729 --> 02:05:45,779
songwriters of my era of the 80s and 90s. I

2149
02:05:45,779 --> 02:05:48,760
love what he wrote. He was a very, very private

2150
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:50,899
guy. Everybody knew who he was gay, but he was

2151
02:05:50,899 --> 02:05:56,600
kind of private about that. And they did this medley.

2152
02:05:56,729 --> 02:06:00,479
And they had Adam Lambert and a big black guy

2153
02:06:00,479 --> 02:06:03,779
in a dress and, you know, trans people and trans

2154
02:06:03,779 --> 02:06:07,899
flags all over. I'm like, no, that was the worst

2155
02:06:07,899 --> 02:06:12,899
tribute ever. to George Michael. And Adam Lambert had those

2156
02:06:12,899 --> 02:06:18,439
black eyes, you know, like the raccoon eyes. That was

2157
02:06:18,439 --> 02:06:21,439
disappointing. It was a bad tribute. Ladies, save it for

2158
02:06:21,439 --> 02:06:25,039
Halloween. I mean, that's all I can say. Save it

2159
02:06:25,039 --> 02:06:29,399
for Halloween since we were talking about her. Federal agents

2160
02:06:29,399 --> 02:06:31,659
carried out a search very quickly. Monday at the D.C.

2161
02:06:31,659 --> 02:06:35,760
home of Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar. The Trump administration says

2162
02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:38,699
it was part of a criminal investigation, but Omar calls

2163
02:06:38,699 --> 02:06:42,189
it a campaign of political intimidation. She says it's an

2164
02:06:42,189 --> 02:06:46,439
effort to silence her. Here's House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.

2165
02:06:47,180 --> 02:06:52,579
Right wing conspiracy theorists have been targeting Representative Omar for

2166
02:06:52,579 --> 02:06:56,020
about eight years at this particular point in time. There's

2167
02:06:56,020 --> 02:07:01,220
nothing there relative to behavior that should merit this type

2168
02:07:01,220 --> 02:07:06,880
of extraordinary. I apologize for this audio. Let alone inside

2169
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:10,800
of 30 days. in the date of an election. CBS

2170
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:14,270
News Homeland Security correspondent Nicole Skanger brings us more on

2171
02:07:14,270 --> 02:07:16,539
what we're learning about that race. What are we learning?

2172
02:07:16,680 --> 02:07:20,420
Federal agents were seen removing boxes of evidence from Minnesota

2173
02:07:20,420 --> 02:07:25,789
Congresswoman Ilhan Omar's Washington home around 6 a.m. Sources tell

2174
02:07:25,789 --> 02:07:29,920
CBS a years-long probe into Omar involves immigration paperwork that

2175
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:32,270
was completed by her late father when she was a

2176
02:07:32,270 --> 02:07:35,970
child. Omar, a U.S. citizen and the first Somali-American in

2177
02:07:35,970 --> 02:07:39,779
Congress, called the search an attempt to target political enemies.

2178
02:07:40,340 --> 02:07:43,600
President Trump told reporters he's not involved in the investigation.

2179
02:07:44,039 --> 02:07:47,470
Well, I understand they're looking at her very bad. carefully.

2180
02:07:47,470 --> 02:07:50,800
I've always doubted to be totally crooked personally, but that

2181
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:54,159
has nothing to do with me. Trump has regularly leveled

2182
02:07:54,159 --> 02:07:58,069
false attacks against Omar. She's here illegally. She should get

2183
02:07:58,069 --> 02:08:00,680
the hell out, throw the hell out. What do you

2184
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:06,800
think is going to... This is kind of... unprecedented doing

2185
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:09,720
this so close to an election as she stands for

2186
02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:13,380
re-election. What do you think? Well, I don't think anything

2187
02:08:13,380 --> 02:08:19,250
ever comes out of any Washington investigations. I mean, they

2188
02:08:19,250 --> 02:08:22,489
just don't. They don't. And I think one of these

2189
02:08:22,489 --> 02:08:24,579
days we need to get to the bottom of a

2190
02:08:24,579 --> 02:08:28,430
cover story. I don't have any confidence in the federal

2191
02:08:28,430 --> 02:08:32,779
government anymore when it comes to policing themselves or any

2192
02:08:32,779 --> 02:08:34,779
of that. I got no confidence in them, so I

2193
02:08:34,779 --> 02:08:37,989
don't see anything happening here. I do have one question,

2194
02:08:37,989 --> 02:08:41,000
though I just want to know, did they go through

2195
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:44,779
her burka drawer? Why? Well, you know, they went through

2196
02:08:44,779 --> 02:08:51,229
Melania's underwear drawers. Good point. I wouldn't say I'm under

2197
02:08:51,229 --> 02:08:55,420
for burkas. We're all, you know, thrashed around. Good point.

2198
02:08:55,720 --> 02:08:58,940
Good point. I don't know. I just know that all

2199
02:08:58,940 --> 02:09:01,859
the Somali driver, Uber drivers in Holland when we were

2200
02:09:01,859 --> 02:09:05,640
there were like, Where are you from? Somalia. Oh, we

2201
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:10,449
know a Somali in America. Who? Elon Omar. Bye! Elon

2202
02:09:10,449 --> 02:09:14,130
Omar. Bye! They thought that was the funniest thing. They're

2203
02:09:14,130 --> 02:09:17,920
like, she's phony. She's fake. Or whatever. You know, I

2204
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:19,770
told you this story. I think last time I was

2205
02:09:19,770 --> 02:09:24,260
on the air, we passed by her in the hallway

2206
02:09:24,260 --> 02:09:27,800
in the tunnels up at the Capitol in D.C. back

2207
02:09:27,800 --> 02:09:31,840
in January. And my wife... turned around, she thinks she

2208
02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:36,270
has a whisper voice. Yes. But she grew up with

2209
02:09:36,270 --> 02:09:40,420
deaf parents. Oh, wow. And so her whisper voice is

2210
02:09:40,420 --> 02:09:43,949
not, and Omar walks by, and she goes, isn't that

2211
02:09:43,949 --> 02:09:48,940
the one who married her brother? Yes. Any response from

2212
02:09:48,940 --> 02:09:52,970
the congressman? No, but the poor little 18-year-old guide that

2213
02:09:52,970 --> 02:09:55,199
was walking over there, I thought she was going to

2214
02:09:55,199 --> 02:09:58,149
want to crawl into a hole. But no, it was

2215
02:09:58,149 --> 02:10:01,729
– so yeah. We're going to get to donations in

2216
02:10:01,729 --> 02:10:04,789
a moment. You're gracious enough to stay. You also have

2217
02:10:04,789 --> 02:10:07,300
a tip of the day, which I'm very happy about.

2218
02:10:07,449 --> 02:10:10,739
In general, because you just kind of said it, there's

2219
02:10:10,739 --> 02:10:13,949
a lot of skepticism about the United States, about our

2220
02:10:13,949 --> 02:10:17,100
government, about anything ever getting done. I can look at

2221
02:10:17,100 --> 02:10:19,170
the rat room, as you call it, and be like,

2222
02:10:19,170 --> 02:10:23,800
nothing ever changes. Nothing ever gets done. It's just no

2223
02:10:23,800 --> 02:10:28,149
good. I mean – Are we going to eventually just

2224
02:10:28,149 --> 02:10:31,720
fade away like the Soviet Union? Will we remain strong?

2225
02:10:32,380 --> 02:10:36,239
What is your long-term view? There's a remnant of us.

2226
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:40,069
They're going to preserve the good stuff. Oh, and I

2227
02:10:40,069 --> 02:10:43,940
absolutely believe that, that there's and, you know, is it

2228
02:10:43,940 --> 02:10:46,750
going to come out of Texas? I hope so. But

2229
02:10:46,750 --> 02:10:49,680
I think there's I think there's a remnant of still

2230
02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:52,909
good people out there, quite a few. And will it

2231
02:10:52,909 --> 02:10:57,399
be enough? I think so. Yeah. Besides that, God's on

2232
02:10:57,399 --> 02:11:01,440
our side. Well, there you go. There you go. Last

2233
02:11:01,440 --> 02:11:04,539
clip, just because it was breaking. Breaking news this morning.

2234
02:11:04,699 --> 02:11:06,489
So there is some breaking news. You perhaps. I told

2235
02:11:06,489 --> 02:11:08,520
you it was breaking news, but he's not doing it

2236
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:12,500
right. Breaking. There is some breaking news. Come on, CBS.

2237
02:11:12,500 --> 02:11:15,069
You perhaps have not yet seen, but you can probably

2238
02:11:15,069 --> 02:11:17,550
look at your phone. The president just posted it to

2239
02:11:17,550 --> 02:11:20,809
social that he will not again, not live stream the

2240
02:11:20,809 --> 02:11:24,789
execution of Nidal Hassan. Now, this, of course, was my

2241
02:11:24,789 --> 02:11:28,550
idea for many, many years, like all. All public execution

2242
02:11:28,550 --> 02:11:31,920
should be televised. I wanted the rights to it, really,

2243
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:34,809
and Brunetti was on board and everything. But I've since

2244
02:11:34,809 --> 02:11:38,539
changed my tune a little bit about that. But, yeah.

2245
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:44,270
I've already ordered the popcorn, so I'm disappointed. Were you

2246
02:11:44,270 --> 02:11:49,270
really? You know, yes, this guy was a dog. He

2247
02:11:49,270 --> 02:11:55,279
was a hateful Muslim radical who wormed his way into

2248
02:11:55,279 --> 02:11:59,630
our military and then did such a cowardly act. Well,

2249
02:11:59,630 --> 02:12:01,699
he's still going to be executed by firing squad. Well,

2250
02:12:01,699 --> 02:12:04,079
he's still going to be executed by firing squad. Yes,

2251
02:12:04,079 --> 02:12:08,479
that's true, but... Yeah, I think we should all be

2252
02:12:08,479 --> 02:12:11,559
able to see it. Well, Ford Hood is just down

2253
02:12:11,559 --> 02:12:14,090
the road. You can go over there and take a

2254
02:12:14,090 --> 02:12:17,819
look. Get a press credential. Didn't one of your guys,

2255
02:12:17,819 --> 02:12:20,899
didn't Deuce, said he was going to – Oh, Deucifer

2256
02:12:20,899 --> 02:12:25,649
said he's applied for a press pass already. Deucifer called

2257
02:12:25,649 --> 02:12:27,399
me last night. Did he? We had a phone call.

2258
02:12:27,399 --> 02:12:30,059
funny chat. Yeah. He's like, man, I'm just going to

2259
02:12:30,059 --> 02:12:32,819
leave Texas. why i want to travel the country with

2260
02:12:32,819 --> 02:12:34,859
my kids i want them to learn that what life

2261
02:12:34,859 --> 02:12:37,279
is really like be on the road for a couple

2262
02:12:37,279 --> 02:12:40,149
years like that's a great idea yeah i think it

2263
02:12:40,149 --> 02:12:42,670
is too take a you know take a star link

2264
02:12:42,670 --> 02:12:45,119
don't go over 100 miles an hour you'll be fine

2265
02:12:45,119 --> 02:12:48,940
that's right we'll be right back with some donations it's

2266
02:12:48,940 --> 02:12:59,289
thursday the signal's hot the podfather's Back connecting the dots,

2267
02:12:59,289 --> 02:12:59,289
been a long time coming, now the wait is gone,

2268
02:12:59,289 --> 02:12:59,300
Matt Long's in the house, turn the damn thing on!

2269
02:13:00,500 --> 02:13:12,420
Go! Trump wants the minerals to hold damn light. Oil

2270
02:13:12,420 --> 02:13:15,069
in the ground, gas under ice. Europe's in the corner

2271
02:13:15,069 --> 02:13:20,390
screaming, not at that price. Diplomacy. Washington is talking, but

2272
02:13:20,390 --> 02:13:23,800
they ain't saying nothing. Maps on the. in the wind

2273
02:13:24,199 --> 02:13:42,710
more suckers, here we go again, turn it up. Just

2274
02:13:42,710 --> 02:13:48,000
keep climbing. Nobody forgets. the machine, selling you a headline

2275
02:13:52,399 --> 02:14:00,020
This country just keeps in the Greenland Disguise. Wait a

2276
02:14:00,020 --> 02:14:27,199
minute. in Greenland. It was just too good. Oh, yeah.

2277
02:14:27,319 --> 02:14:29,159
I got two songs, so I had to play both

2278
02:14:29,159 --> 02:14:31,489
of them. Thank you, Craig Weinberg. Just Baker did the

2279
02:14:31,489 --> 02:14:35,500
other one. Value for Value, that has been the mantra

2280
02:14:35,500 --> 02:14:38,979
of the No Agenda show for close to 19 years.

2281
02:14:39,079 --> 02:14:42,479
Coming up on that 19th anniversary, I think the 26th

2282
02:14:42,479 --> 02:14:46,479
is our official anniversary, and so that means the... I

2283
02:14:46,479 --> 02:14:49,449
believe the Sunday before that will be the 25th, and

2284
02:14:49,449 --> 02:14:53,380
we'll be celebrating 19 years on that date. And what

2285
02:14:53,380 --> 02:14:56,380
a ride it has been. It's been amazing. And so

2286
02:14:56,380 --> 02:14:58,109
Value for Value has kept it going, and that's your

2287
02:14:58,109 --> 02:14:59,940
time, your talent, your treasure.

2288
02:15:00,020 --> 02:15:02,939
very early on John and I realized there was no

2289
02:15:02,939 --> 02:15:05,060
way it was going to work with advertising that's for

2290
02:15:05,060 --> 02:15:09,220
sure because we would have not existed even uh monetarily

2291
02:15:09,220 --> 02:15:13,010
or just would have been de-platformed for sure and also

2292
02:15:13,010 --> 02:15:17,039
just being a Podcasts that you can freely get without

2293
02:15:17,039 --> 02:15:21,720
having to deal with a platform like YouTube or any

2294
02:15:21,720 --> 02:15:24,689
other place. You know, I'm so sad about these podcasters

2295
02:15:24,689 --> 02:15:27,069
who think they have to do video and stuff. Although

2296
02:15:27,069 --> 02:15:29,520
I'm not adverse to video, but it's like, you know,

2297
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:31,729
you got to have the audio component. And these days

2298
02:15:31,729 --> 02:15:33,649
you can do video on podcasts, too. And you can

2299
02:15:33,649 --> 02:15:36,069
with a modern podcast app. In fact, you use Podcast

2300
02:15:36,069 --> 02:15:38,739
Guru, don't you? Yes, I do. Very modern. They have

2301
02:15:38,739 --> 02:15:41,220
the pod ping technology built in. So do you get

2302
02:15:41,220 --> 02:15:44,510
a notification with no agenda goes live? I have not

2303
02:15:44,510 --> 02:15:48,100
set that up. Okay, Matt. Have your robot help you

2304
02:15:48,100 --> 02:15:50,159
with that. Okay, I will. And it will take the

2305
02:15:50,159 --> 02:15:53,180
robot. But I did push two of my family members

2306
02:15:53,180 --> 02:15:56,779
on to Podcast Guru yesterday. Oh, good. You guru guys

2307
02:15:56,779 --> 02:15:59,800
out there, you got two new, and I won't credit

2308
02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:04,000
for them. You are a guru dealer, man. That's right.

2309
02:16:04,579 --> 02:16:07,199
PodcastApps.com is where you can find all the modern podcasts.

2310
02:16:07,199 --> 02:16:09,800
apps get rid of that legacy app because you want

2311
02:16:09,800 --> 02:16:12,029
to know when the new show is out within 90

2312
02:16:12,029 --> 02:16:15,989
seconds the pod ping technology built into those brand new

2313
02:16:15,989 --> 02:16:19,069
apps will let you know that it's there um We've

2314
02:16:19,069 --> 02:16:21,439
had so many people help us. Of course, Void Zero

2315
02:16:21,439 --> 02:16:25,310
has been running the engine room for a long, long

2316
02:16:25,310 --> 02:16:28,470
time on the show. The rat room, the midget room,

2317
02:16:28,470 --> 02:16:31,409
the troll room. We have to change that. I like

2318
02:16:31,409 --> 02:16:34,260
the rat room. Nick the rat's here today, and he's

2319
02:16:34,260 --> 02:16:37,260
like, this is my place. The rat room is mine.

2320
02:16:38,379 --> 02:16:42,569
Good. And so that's your time and your talent. And

2321
02:16:42,569 --> 02:16:46,329
people also do things like organized meetups. Matt is a

2322
02:16:46,329 --> 02:16:49,280
perfect example of it. Are you going to do your

2323
02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:51,100
– oh, I thought you were doing your pig feet,

2324
02:16:51,100 --> 02:16:54,260
your pig nails. No, no, that's for – there you

2325
02:16:54,260 --> 02:16:57,469
go. There they go. People make art for us, the

2326
02:16:57,469 --> 02:17:00,829
album art, which as you heard is very important. enjoyable

2327
02:17:00,829 --> 02:17:03,059
so much so that matt printed it out wants the

2328
02:17:03,059 --> 02:17:06,940
uh artist to autograph it i want to thank nestworks

2329
02:17:06,940 --> 02:17:11,239
now nestworks he does stuff um probably hybrid uh he

2330
02:17:11,239 --> 02:17:13,760
he may use ai uh but i'm pretty sure this

2331
02:17:13,760 --> 02:17:15,610
is one of those hybrids where he touched it up

2332
02:17:15,610 --> 02:17:19,049
this was the uh curry and do eat more meat

2333
02:17:19,049 --> 02:17:22,360
with a A ribeye holding on to some lettuce and

2334
02:17:22,360 --> 02:17:26,940
a carrot. Throwback or callback to the show where we're

2335
02:17:26,940 --> 02:17:31,079
talking about Trump railing on Tallarico, eating lettuce and being

2336
02:17:31,079 --> 02:17:33,829
very sick from eating meat. So thank you very much,

2337
02:17:33,829 --> 02:17:36,159
Nestworks. Appreciate it. There were a lot of good pieces.

2338
02:17:36,379 --> 02:17:40,000
I mean – And Tyler Brown is still a force

2339
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:44,420
of nature. And he's on X. And I'm following him.

2340
02:17:44,520 --> 02:17:48,540
And he says, you know, yes, he actually uses... Grok,

2341
02:17:48,540 --> 02:17:51,139
I think. But then he touches it up. He'll do

2342
02:17:51,139 --> 02:17:54,379
things in Photoshop. It's a hybrid. So there's real work

2343
02:17:54,379 --> 02:17:56,620
that goes into it, and appreciate that he does that.

2344
02:17:57,000 --> 02:17:59,620
Of course, we thank everybody who supports us, $50 or

2345
02:17:59,620 --> 02:18:03,200
more. And if anyone is fortunate enough to be able

2346
02:18:03,200 --> 02:18:07,059
to support us with $200 or more, you get an

2347
02:18:07,059 --> 02:18:10,540
associate executive producership. And we will be happy. will be

2348
02:18:10,540 --> 02:18:13,620
guaranteed, we, yes, we're here, there's two of us today,

2349
02:18:13,620 --> 02:18:18,020
so guaranteed to read your note, and you get the

2350
02:18:18,020 --> 02:18:22,200
credit of associate executive producer. Let me just see here.

2351
02:18:22,260 --> 02:18:24,729
I want to make sure that I've got everything lined

2352
02:18:24,729 --> 02:18:28,959
up. Yeah, got it all lined up here. $300 or

2353
02:18:28,959 --> 02:18:32,260
more and you get an executive producership and we'll read

2354
02:18:32,260 --> 02:18:36,059
your note. And of course, you can go to imdb.com.

2355
02:18:36,299 --> 02:18:38,219
And if you don't have an account, if you do,

2356
02:18:38,219 --> 02:18:40,850
then thank you for already being an executive or associate

2357
02:18:40,850 --> 02:18:44,540
executive producer. These are valid Hollywood credits. Go look at

2358
02:18:44,540 --> 02:18:46,979
the people who have them. And of course, we have

2359
02:18:46,979 --> 02:18:52,260
the challenge coin 38883, the JCD Memorial Challenge coin. Mine's

2360
02:18:52,260 --> 02:18:54,159
on the way. I can't wait to see it. If

2361
02:18:54,159 --> 02:18:56,329
you want to check it out, I think Jay's put

2362
02:18:56,329 --> 02:19:01,549
it in the newsletter. It's certainly at noagenderrings.com. And Edward

2363
02:19:01,549 --> 02:19:07,680
Begman. Came in with $400.91. That is the official 388.83

2364
02:19:07,680 --> 02:19:10,309
plus fees. We appreciate that. So Ed will be getting

2365
02:19:10,309 --> 02:19:14,000
a challenge coin. Sir Schwartz of the woke bashing culprits,

2366
02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:16,909
Baron and Commander of the Jutland. He's coming in for

2367
02:19:16,909 --> 02:19:20,319
a challenge coin. He says, you simply must use Dana

2368
02:19:20,319 --> 02:19:23,120
Moore. You are starting to sound like an old couple.

2369
02:19:23,479 --> 02:19:27,000
Okay, great. Sir Schwartz of the woke bashing culprits. Thank

2370
02:19:27,000 --> 02:19:30,340
you very much. Future Knight of Brasilia. A challenge coin

2371
02:19:30,340 --> 02:19:33,399
donation with fees. Thank you for keeping me sane. De-douche

2372
02:19:33,399 --> 02:19:36,329
me and give me some karma. We can do that

2373
02:19:36,329 --> 02:19:46,879
for you. You've been de-douched. You've got... Jeffrey Solomon. Matt,

2374
02:19:46,879 --> 02:19:49,510
you want to say something? Oh, I was just making

2375
02:19:49,510 --> 02:19:53,409
notions with the harp. You know, that always reminded me

2376
02:19:53,409 --> 02:19:56,889
of that, what was the disco song that started out

2377
02:19:56,889 --> 02:20:01,540
with a harp like that? Donna Summer. Donna Summer. Every

2378
02:20:01,540 --> 02:20:04,790
time I hear the... Let's Dance the Last Dance. Yeah,

2379
02:20:04,790 --> 02:20:07,770
every time I hear the karma thing, I get Donna

2380
02:20:07,770 --> 02:20:12,129
Summer in my head. Oh, let's dance. Let's dance. All

2381
02:20:12,129 --> 02:20:15,819
right, Matt, showing our age. There you go. Beautiful. Future

2382
02:20:15,819 --> 02:20:19,000
Knight of Brasile. We got him. Yes. Up next for

2383
02:20:19,000 --> 02:20:21,950
the challenge coin, Jeffrey Solomon. In the morning, thank you,

2384
02:20:21,950 --> 02:20:23,879
John and Adam, for all the years of no agenda.

2385
02:20:24,059 --> 02:20:27,340
Adam, Godspeed on what's next. Thank you. Jack Swoboda comes

2386
02:20:27,340 --> 02:20:31,260
in with a challenge coin donation, as does Jim McCaslin.

2387
02:20:31,799 --> 02:20:33,799
And he says, this coin is a lovely tribute to

2388
02:20:33,799 --> 02:20:35,610
the great JCD. It will sit in a place of

2389
02:20:35,610 --> 02:20:38,350
honor among my challenge coins. Thanks for everything. May the

2390
02:20:38,350 --> 02:20:40,719
Lord bless you and keep you. Thank you. you leslie

2391
02:20:40,719 --> 02:20:44,959
hatton with the actual 388 83 and leslie says jcd

2392
02:20:44,959 --> 02:20:51,100
forever elene portfleet in flissingen in the netherlands 3883 And

2393
02:20:51,100 --> 02:20:54,440
she says, hi, Adam, this PayPal donation is a switcheroo

2394
02:20:54,440 --> 02:20:57,270
for my smoking hot not husband and amazing dad to

2395
02:20:57,270 --> 02:21:01,930
our three human recourses. I think she meant resources, but

2396
02:21:01,930 --> 02:21:07,020
you never know. Michiel Buren. So he will be. Yeah.

2397
02:21:07,059 --> 02:21:08,989
He will get the credit for this. The show has

2398
02:21:08,989 --> 02:21:10,799
meant so much to him over the years. He has

2399
02:21:10,799 --> 02:21:13,180
also managed to punch me in the mouth. With the

2400
02:21:13,180 --> 02:21:15,889
passing of John, he has sadly lost yet another great

2401
02:21:15,889 --> 02:21:18,299
man to look up to. We all have. The Challenge

2402
02:21:18,299 --> 02:21:21,079
Coin is my gift to his. not quite John C.

2403
02:21:21,079 --> 02:21:25,370
Worthy collection and proof that great men exist. Life has

2404
02:21:25,370 --> 02:21:27,639
been busy lately and we haven't been able to donate

2405
02:21:27,639 --> 02:21:29,540
as much as we would want. I have no idea

2406
02:21:29,540 --> 02:21:31,579
what this would mean for his knighthood, but I'm looking

2407
02:21:31,579 --> 02:21:35,159
forward to being a douchebag living with a knight. Dankjewel

2408
02:21:35,159 --> 02:21:37,399
for it fortsetter van de scho, erom je bent en

2409
02:21:37,399 --> 02:21:39,930
waarde voor iedereen van Eline. It's a little bit of

2410
02:21:39,930 --> 02:21:46,889
Dutch there. Uh, Ovidiu, Ovidiu Preda, uh, 388, 83, please

2411
02:21:46,889 --> 02:21:51,860
call out the Tennessee truck driver as a douchebag. Wishing

2412
02:21:51,860 --> 02:21:54,440
the Noah Jenner family the best, Adam. I'm hoping I

2413
02:21:54,440 --> 02:21:56,850
heard wrong that you're exiting the show. It won't be

2414
02:21:56,850 --> 02:22:00,219
the same without you. Thanks for everything. Well... You did

2415
02:22:00,219 --> 02:22:05,149
hear correctly. Commodore Sir Robertson of Two Sticks, 38883. ITM,

2416
02:22:05,149 --> 02:22:07,799
thank you for the 19 years of knowledge, humor, and

2417
02:22:07,799 --> 02:22:11,649
entertainment. Rest in peace, JCD. Commodore Sir Robertson of Two

2418
02:22:11,649 --> 02:22:16,159
Sticks, Dos Palos, California. Six years ago, 1015, I became

2419
02:22:16,159 --> 02:22:22,079
a knight. No agendas will live on forever. Visit WJR1979.com

2420
02:22:22,079 --> 02:22:25,079
today. I have no idea what that is. Sarah Nielsen

2421
02:22:25,079 --> 02:22:32,340
from Laurentier, Quebec. She's a Quebecaquois. She's a Quebecaquois. Dear

2422
02:22:32,340 --> 02:22:36,629
Adam and Friends, Oh, so she sent 383 and 83

2423
02:22:36,629 --> 02:22:41,719
Canadian pesos, which turns out to be 261.22 in dollars.

2424
02:22:42,180 --> 02:22:45,379
But we will grant her the challenge coin. ITM, I'm

2425
02:22:45,379 --> 02:22:48,540
glad to hear you got the blanket. Yeah. This time

2426
02:22:48,540 --> 02:22:51,579
I send the cash, 388.83 Canadian pesos, for a JCD

2427
02:22:51,579 --> 02:22:55,500
Challenge coin for my birthday tomorrow, October 16th. Cheers from

2428
02:22:55,500 --> 02:22:59,860
Sarah King Nielsen in Laurentienne de Quebec, Scandinavia. My shortest

2429
02:22:59,860 --> 02:23:03,649
note to date, but wait, there's more. Meetup idea. LDI

2430
02:23:03,649 --> 02:23:07,659
people. Live Design International is going to be in New

2431
02:23:07,659 --> 02:23:11,520
Orleans, October 15th to the 21st, 2027. How about a

2432
02:23:11,520 --> 02:23:13,819
meetup? I figure a year will be enough to plan

2433
02:23:13,819 --> 02:23:24,170
something. I'm not the strongest organizer type, so I hope

2434
02:23:24,170 --> 02:23:27,239
the seed will plant itself and I will show up

2435
02:23:27,239 --> 02:23:29,719
with my coin. Adam, you should come and geek out.

2436
02:23:29,719 --> 02:23:34,780
What is the live or live design international live design

2437
02:23:34,780 --> 02:23:38,949
live design? uh pps did you know that a group

2438
02:23:38,949 --> 02:23:42,308
of loons the bird is called an asylum it doesn't

2439
02:23:42,308 --> 02:23:46,469
surprise me at all sent from my bakelite phone rest

2440
02:23:46,469 --> 02:23:50,280
in peace jcd 200 from daniel j lewis daniel j

2441
02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:53,780
lewis uh Burlington, Kentucky. He is a brother in Christ,

2442
02:23:53,780 --> 02:23:58,219
but he does audacity to podcast. He has a whole

2443
02:23:58,219 --> 02:24:01,149
business that he does, a big support, a big part

2444
02:24:01,149 --> 02:24:05,030
of the podcasting 2.0 community. And he says from Sir

2445
02:24:05,030 --> 02:24:10,899
Daniel J. Lewis in Cincinnati. Okay. For competitive edge and

2446
02:24:10,899 --> 02:24:14,559
a podcast that gets results, go to podchapters.com for all

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02:24:14,559 --> 02:24:18,780
your modern podcast chaptering needs. Get AI-suggested chapters or use

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your own outline. It supports legacy apps and Podcasting 2.0.

2449
02:24:23,180 --> 02:24:27,450
That's podchapters.com with a C. Sir Daniel J. Lewis, Knight

2450
02:24:27,450 --> 02:24:32,100
of Podcasting 2.0 and writer of Winning Podcasting Tool. Taking

2451
02:24:32,100 --> 02:24:38,500
a note there from... The resume writer from Castle Rock,

2452
02:24:38,500 --> 02:24:44,100
Texas, Colorado, Linda Lou. There you go. I would like

2453
02:24:44,100 --> 02:24:46,680
to meet her someday. Oh, you should. You should. You

2454
02:24:46,680 --> 02:24:49,340
should. Look her up. Go to Castle Rock. I've been

2455
02:24:49,340 --> 02:24:53,440
there. I've gambled there. At the Indian Reservation? Yeah. No,

2456
02:24:53,440 --> 02:24:55,670
it's actually, no, it's one of the, no, I take

2457
02:24:55,670 --> 02:24:58,340
it back. Castle Rock is not one of the two

2458
02:24:58,340 --> 02:25:02,200
gambling towns up there. I take that back. Okay. Okay.

2459
02:25:02,290 --> 02:25:05,059
But yeah, we've taken it. We've taken it back. I've

2460
02:25:05,059 --> 02:25:07,700
gone gambling to one of those little towns up there,

2461
02:25:07,700 --> 02:25:09,409
but I don't think Castle Rock is one of the

2462
02:25:09,409 --> 02:25:12,000
gambling towns. Well, thank you to all these executive and

2463
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:15,250
associate executive producers who've supported us for episode one thousand

2464
02:25:15,250 --> 02:25:18,079
nine hundred and twelve. As always, these credits are real

2465
02:25:18,079 --> 02:25:22,639
and good anywhere they're recognized. Our formula is this. We

2466
02:25:22,639 --> 02:25:28,979
go out. We hit people in the mouth. We'll be

2467
02:25:28,979 --> 02:25:38,139
right back. Water! Shut up, flame. Shut up, flame. Continuing

2468
02:25:38,139 --> 02:25:41,350
with the rest of our donors, $50 and above, Sir

2469
02:25:41,350 --> 02:25:45,040
Kevin McLaughlin. There he is, $80.08, the boob donation. He

2470
02:25:45,040 --> 02:25:47,409
is, of course, the Archduke of Luna, lover of America

2471
02:25:47,409 --> 02:25:50,889
and boobs. And again, he says, PSA, Boob Cancer Awareness

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02:25:50,889 --> 02:25:54,260
Month. That's right. And he apologized for not donating on

2473
02:25:54,260 --> 02:25:56,100
the last show. We had a family emergency. So we

2474
02:25:56,100 --> 02:25:59,180
hope everything is okay. It was the first time he's

2475
02:25:59,180 --> 02:26:01,899
missed it in years. I was fixing to say he's

2476
02:26:01,899 --> 02:26:05,159
always on. And I was sometimes twice. I was, yeah,

2477
02:26:05,159 --> 02:26:08,090
I was concerned. I'm like, Is he okay? Yeah. When

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02:26:08,090 --> 02:26:12,200
someone just falls away like that. Chris Dubendorf, Brookville, Maryland,

2479
02:26:12,200 --> 02:26:18,780
$77.73. Congratulations, Podfather. Powerful WGTDT yesterday. We get to do

2480
02:26:18,780 --> 02:26:22,180
this. With this donation, I achieved knighthood. I would like

2481
02:26:22,180 --> 02:26:26,319
to be Sir H. Chris. Sir H. Chris. Oh, it's

2482
02:26:26,319 --> 02:26:29,510
a palindrome. Oh. Oh, look at that. Sir H. Chris,

2483
02:26:29,510 --> 02:26:32,440
palindrome Sir H. Chris, both ways. Very nice. You're on

2484
02:26:32,440 --> 02:26:36,459
deck. Les Tarkowski, Kingman, Arizona with a small boob, $60.06.

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02:26:36,459 --> 02:26:42,620
Lydia Terry Dominelli, Rochester, New Hampshire, $60. Christopher Dechter, $5678.

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02:26:42,620 --> 02:26:48,600
We love it when you do that. Thank you. Luke

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02:26:48,680 --> 02:26:52,479
50s, Brandon Savoy, I'm sorry, yes, Brandon Savoy from Port

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02:26:52,479 --> 02:26:57,899
Orchard, Washington, Dame Patricia Worthington from Miami, Florida, Matthew Smith

2489
02:26:57,899 --> 02:27:01,719
from Johnson, Rhode Island, and he says, long time listener

2490
02:27:01,719 --> 02:27:04,549
here, wasted Adam's time on fly Dubai, but he's still

2491
02:27:04,549 --> 02:27:08,200
got Trump's Iran, let him Let him line wrong. I'm

2492
02:27:08,200 --> 02:27:10,340
not sure what he's talking about here. Praise God. Love

2493
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and light. Fact check. False. China is asshole. No, man,

2494
02:27:13,920 --> 02:27:16,000
you got you got to be an executive or associate

2495
02:27:16,000 --> 02:27:20,520
executive producer for that. David Oliver, Calistoga, California, fifty dollars.

2496
02:27:21,760 --> 02:27:25,260
And thank you. Along with Sir Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood

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Park, Alberta, Scandinavia, Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut, Philip

2498
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Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky. Linda Lupaka. There she is. Castle

2499
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Rock, Colorado. Image. ImageMakersInc with a K, ImageMakersInc.com. And finally,

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Pamela Bradley from... to Coombson, Oklahoma, and she wraps up

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our $50. We thank all of these donors for your

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numerology. Noagendadonations.com It's your birthday party I don't know why,

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but the birthday lists have gotten smaller and smaller and

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smaller throughout the past year. But we still want to

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congratulate Sarah Nielsen, who turns, well, we don't know how

2512
02:28:23,309 --> 02:28:26,100
old Sarah's going to be, but she celebrates the Sweet

2513
02:28:26,100 --> 02:28:29,639
Sims, which is tomorrow. Happy birthday from everybody here at

2514
02:28:29,639 --> 02:28:33,860
the best podcast in the universe. Happy birthday, yeah. Three

2515
02:28:33,860 --> 02:28:42,549
days. 83 Keep a little John In your treasury The

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02:28:42,549 --> 02:28:55,079
JCD Challenge coin Value for value That's right, Challenge coins

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go to Edwin Begumann Sir Schwartz of the woke bashing

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culprits, Baron and Commander of Jutland. future night of Brasilia,

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Jeffrey Solomon, Jack Swoboda, Jim Casslin, Leslie Hatton, Aileen Portfleet,

2520
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Ovidio Preda, Commodore Sir Robertson of Two Sticks, and Sarah

2521
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Nielsen. Congratulations. All of you will be receiving this beautiful

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token memento of the late, great John C. Dvorak in

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the mail. If you want to see it, please. If

2524
02:29:23,879 --> 02:29:25,760
you want to check it out, I believe it's at

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noagendarings.com. Go take a look. 388-83, and it is yours.

2526
02:29:30,579 --> 02:29:35,430
And we thank everybody who supported myself and John throughout

2527
02:29:35,430 --> 02:29:39,319
the years. And this is just a great... last bit

2528
02:29:39,319 --> 02:29:42,659
of history that you should add to your collection. The

2529
02:29:42,659 --> 02:29:46,489
No Agenda John C. Dvorak Challenge Coin. Let the orchestra

2530
02:29:46,489 --> 02:29:57,020
build. Ha, ha, ha. There you go. We got, let's

2531
02:29:57,020 --> 02:29:59,940
see, we have two knights and a dame to bring.

2532
02:30:00,020 --> 02:30:03,329
Now, first, I have a make good here. This is

2533
02:30:03,329 --> 02:30:07,680
from Anna and she she was Dame, but I think

2534
02:30:07,680 --> 02:30:11,309
I. Yeah, she was named Dame Nan Adam of Texas

2535
02:30:11,309 --> 02:30:16,139
Twilight Adams of the Texas Twilight Zone. I'm cashing in

2536
02:30:16,139 --> 02:30:20,889
my donations. I'm requesting Dungeness crab cakes and a Bloody

2537
02:30:20,889 --> 02:30:24,280
Mary with beer chaser. I'm trying to think. No, no.

2538
02:30:24,360 --> 02:30:26,719
I guess we missed her, so she's being dame today.

2539
02:30:26,819 --> 02:30:27,969
There you go. We're going to take care of you

2540
02:30:27,969 --> 02:30:30,270
with that. We've got the Dungeness crab cakes and a

2541
02:30:30,270 --> 02:30:32,639
big Bloody Mary with a beer chaser. I asked Matt

2542
02:30:32,639 --> 02:30:35,100
to bring it, but as you know, he's not touching

2543
02:30:35,100 --> 02:30:38,239
it. I got some sweet tea. Some sweet tea and

2544
02:30:38,239 --> 02:30:42,389
some pig nails. That's right. And Sir Chamberlain sent in

2545
02:30:42,389 --> 02:30:45,299
a note. He says, I crossed the threshold into knighthood.

2546
02:30:45,299 --> 02:31:08,379
Okay, so we'll be right back. Dominion Squires, commander of

2547
02:31:08,379 --> 02:31:10,840
the Knights of the Round Table in honor of the

2548
02:31:10,840 --> 02:31:14,549
Little Yellow Maniacs. Oh, the Round Banana. Commander of the

2549
02:31:14,549 --> 02:31:17,469
Knights of the Round Banana. In honor of the little

2550
02:31:17,469 --> 02:31:21,360
yellow maniacs I collect. At the round table, a steady

2551
02:31:21,360 --> 02:31:24,989
spread of burgers, blunts, and bananas. I guess he connects

2552
02:31:24,989 --> 02:31:29,510
bananas. Whatever the road ahead looks like, I've thoroughly enjoyed

2553
02:31:29,510 --> 02:31:32,489
the Korean Friends era. Coordinating that rotating cast has to

2554
02:31:32,489 --> 02:31:36,020
be a logistical headache, but the fresh energy insights make

2555
02:31:36,020 --> 02:31:40,379
every episode shine. Actually, it wasn't that hard. No. Y'all

2556
02:31:40,379 --> 02:31:42,420
were knocking down the door like, hey, can I come

2557
02:31:42,420 --> 02:31:45,200
on? I'm like, hey, Matt, next week. I'm telling you,

2558
02:31:45,200 --> 02:31:48,260
Matt, I promise you next week. Oh, okay, Thursday. What?

2559
02:31:48,540 --> 02:31:51,979
Okay. Yeah. No, it has been good. So let's get

2560
02:31:51,979 --> 02:31:55,620
the blade out here. And I'm going to request that

2561
02:31:55,620 --> 02:31:59,659
Aaron Chamberlain come up to the podium along with... with

2562
02:31:59,659 --> 02:32:05,329
Chris Dubendorf. and Sarah and Blecksrod, of course. All three

2563
02:32:05,329 --> 02:32:08,940
of you are now going to be officially a Knight

2564
02:32:08,940 --> 02:32:12,069
and Dame of the Noah General Roundtable, and I pronounce

2565
02:32:12,069 --> 02:32:15,780
the KB as Dame Nan Adams of the Texas Twilight

2566
02:32:15,780 --> 02:32:18,840
Zone, Sir Chamberlain, Lord of the Minions, Squires Commander of

2567
02:32:18,840 --> 02:32:21,780
the Knights of the Round Banana, and Sir H. Triss.

2568
02:32:21,860 --> 02:32:23,500
For you, we've got Hookers and Blow. Hookers and Blow.

2569
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Rent boys and Chardonnay, Dungeness crab cakes, the big Bloody

2570
02:32:26,780 --> 02:32:30,590
Mary with a beer chaser, along with burgers, blunts and

2571
02:32:30,590 --> 02:32:33,540
bananas. There's a lot more at the round table like

2572
02:32:33,540 --> 02:32:36,629
Sparkling Siren Escorts, Jim Jill and gerbils, breast milk and

2573
02:32:36,629 --> 02:32:39,180
pablum and, of course, the mutton and mead. Head over

2574
02:32:39,180 --> 02:32:42,770
to noagendarings.com. Let us know what size you need, where

2575
02:32:42,770 --> 02:32:44,319
we send it off to, and we'll get up to

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02:32:44,319 --> 02:32:50,260
you. in the post as soon as possible. NoagendaDonations.com, NoAgendaRings.com.

2577
02:32:50,319 --> 02:32:52,819
Thank you all very much for supporting the No Agenda

2578
02:32:52,819 --> 02:33:03,680
Show. No Agenda Jobs! talk about but first we have

2579
02:33:03,680 --> 02:33:07,110
a report from dame trail chicken from the virginia meetup

2580
02:33:07,110 --> 02:33:09,770
in the morning this is dame trail chicken we're all

2581
02:33:09,770 --> 02:33:13,420
here at creekside farm brewery having a good time trains

2582
02:33:13,420 --> 02:33:18,780
good planes bad RIP JCD, we miss you. Life is

2583
02:33:18,780 --> 02:33:21,200
a scam. This is Rob from Richmond in the morning.

2584
02:33:21,620 --> 02:33:24,540
This is Ed from Mechanicsville in the morning to y'all.

2585
02:33:25,079 --> 02:33:27,709
Milo Curtis here hanging out with some amazing people. If

2586
02:33:27,709 --> 02:33:30,430
you haven't been into a meetup yet, you have to

2587
02:33:30,430 --> 02:33:34,420
go. Hi, this is Alex Happy in Virginia. Train's good,

2588
02:33:34,420 --> 02:33:42,399
but we drove here. Hey, this is Dame Rose. Yeah,

2589
02:33:42,399 --> 02:33:52,680
it has been too long. I'm good to hear Tom

2590
02:33:52,680 --> 02:33:58,120
and Alex there. Let me get this all set up

2591
02:33:58,120 --> 02:34:01,920
here. I think we have Matt brought some second half

2592
02:34:01,920 --> 02:34:04,450
of show stuff. But before we do that, there is

2593
02:34:04,450 --> 02:34:08,370
a meetup taking place today. Once again, Charlotte's Thirsty Third

2594
02:34:08,370 --> 02:34:11,860
Thursday monthly meetup. I guess it's the second week. Thursday

2595
02:34:11,860 --> 02:34:14,760
of the month, but it'll be at Ed's Tavern. That

2596
02:34:14,760 --> 02:34:19,270
is tonight at 7 o'clock. Tomorrow, the No Agenda Headbangers

2597
02:34:19,270 --> 02:34:22,479
Ball October Karaoke Meetup. That's got to be a hoot.

2598
02:34:22,899 --> 02:34:27,340
7.30 at Ernie's in Scottsdale, Arizona. Then on Saturday in

2599
02:34:27,340 --> 02:34:31,620
Los Angeles, Leo Bravo. This will be his 81st meetup,

2600
02:34:31,620 --> 02:34:35,569
the Florentown. Light of the No Agendas, 333 at Steelcraft

2601
02:34:35,569 --> 02:34:39,500
in Long Beach, California. And, of course, we have the

2602
02:34:39,500 --> 02:34:44,739
fifth semiannual Fredericksburg, Texas meetup. Is that the correct title

2603
02:34:44,739 --> 02:34:48,739
of it? Yes, sir. That is. 333 right here. Well,

2604
02:34:48,739 --> 02:34:51,489
it's in Luchenbach, but we'll call it Fredericksburg, Texas at

2605
02:34:51,489 --> 02:34:56,139
Bar 1776. Matt, any surprises? No. Well, no, I don't

2606
02:34:56,139 --> 02:34:59,090
think there will be any surprises. I think we're going

2607
02:34:59,090 --> 02:35:01,680
to have a high number count. Y'all bring some snacks.

2608
02:35:03,120 --> 02:35:05,989
Gail's not doing snacks for us this time? Well, actually,

2609
02:35:05,989 --> 02:35:08,840
she's pretty tied up. She's not going to be there?

2610
02:35:08,879 --> 02:35:12,559
No, she'll be there. But Jenny, she was visiting with

2611
02:35:12,559 --> 02:35:16,680
Jenny a couple of days ago out at 1776.5. bar

2612
02:35:16,680 --> 02:35:22,489
full moon in bed and breakfast.com um and uh jenny

2613
02:35:22,489 --> 02:35:24,879
was uh also real busy and she said well i'm

2614
02:35:24,879 --> 02:35:26,930
gonna make a bunch of dips and that's about it

2615
02:35:26,930 --> 02:35:29,520
you need to get matt to make something what are

2616
02:35:29,520 --> 02:35:31,760
you gonna what are you gonna make matt nothing no

2617
02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:34,979
idea you're coming straight in your ben franklin from your

2618
02:35:34,979 --> 02:35:39,260
gig man if i make anything it'll be tomorrow and

2619
02:35:39,260 --> 02:35:41,649
uh so i'll i have to come up with something

2620
02:35:41,649 --> 02:35:44,770
because jenny's already given the command people bring some chips

2621
02:35:44,770 --> 02:35:47,739
bring some uh some crackers bring some cheese you know

2622
02:35:47,739 --> 02:35:50,549
and uh and let us all uh buy our beverages

2623
02:35:50,549 --> 02:35:53,959
from jenny there at the bar absolutely do some business

2624
02:35:53,959 --> 02:35:57,280
she's been so great to the show she really has

2625
02:35:57,280 --> 02:36:02,360
just been phenomenal uh Upcoming, the 21st, Orlando, Florida, 24th,

2626
02:36:02,360 --> 02:36:06,770
Los Altos, California, Tilburg, the Netherlands on the 24th. as

2627
02:36:06,770 --> 02:36:10,000
well. And then we have November, Raleigh, North Carolina on

2628
02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:13,340
the 4th. Albany, California, go see the baby, go see

2629
02:36:13,340 --> 02:36:17,180
Nora on the 7th. South Central Pennsylvania on the 8th,

2630
02:36:17,180 --> 02:36:20,379
North Idaho on the 14th. Scottsdale, Arizona on the 17th.

2631
02:36:20,420 --> 02:36:22,799
And Charlotte, North Carolina for another one of their 33rd

2632
02:36:22,799 --> 02:36:27,149
Thursday meetups on November 19th. Go to noagendameetups.com to find

2633
02:36:27,149 --> 02:36:30,489
out where you can see a join a meetup it's

2634
02:36:30,489 --> 02:36:33,299
free to organize free to join it's a lot of

2635
02:36:33,299 --> 02:36:35,770
fun the people you meet will bring you connection that

2636
02:36:35,770 --> 02:36:38,399
brings you lifelong protection these people will be your first

2637
02:36:38,399 --> 02:36:42,209
responders in any emergency noagendameetups.com if you can't find one

2638
02:36:42,209 --> 02:36:46,170
near you start one yourself it's easy even matt can

2639
02:36:46,170 --> 02:36:49,659
do it noagendameetups.com sometimes you want to go hang Out

2640
02:36:49,659 --> 02:36:55,159
with all the nights and days You wanna be where

2641
02:36:55,159 --> 02:37:00,020
you won't be Triggered on hell's blame You wanna be

2642
02:37:00,020 --> 02:37:06,850
where everybody feels the same Like a party. Now, did

2643
02:37:06,850 --> 02:37:08,680
you want to do a little second half of show

2644
02:37:08,680 --> 02:37:11,620
stuff, Matt? Oh, absolutely. I was just waiting for the

2645
02:37:11,620 --> 02:37:14,409
theremin. You know, I thought you had a real one

2646
02:37:14,409 --> 02:37:16,420
in here. Have you ever built one of those? There

2647
02:37:16,420 --> 02:37:19,219
it is. I was looking. There it is. All right.

2648
02:37:19,299 --> 02:37:21,559
I want to build one someday. Is it that hard?

2649
02:37:22,049 --> 02:37:24,409
No, you don't want to build one. You just want

2650
02:37:24,409 --> 02:37:25,920
to get one of the ones. This is a Moog.

2651
02:37:26,120 --> 02:37:29,540
You see what's on top? Yeah, yeah. That's an auto-tuner.

2652
02:37:29,920 --> 02:37:32,409
Okay, so you can get it right in there. You

2653
02:37:32,409 --> 02:37:34,389
can play a tune with it and say right in

2654
02:37:34,389 --> 02:37:36,260
there. I keep telling Pastor Jimmy, put me on the

2655
02:37:36,260 --> 02:37:40,200
worship team, man. Put me on the worship team. Yeah.

2656
02:37:40,600 --> 02:37:43,000
Yeah, I got some second half stuff for you. First

2657
02:37:43,000 --> 02:37:45,239
of all, this has to go back with when we,

2658
02:37:45,239 --> 02:37:48,969
Artemis II went around the moon. So they say. So

2659
02:37:48,969 --> 02:37:53,459
they say, yeah. And so I am a space and

2660
02:37:53,459 --> 02:37:58,270
moon nut. I just grew up with astronauts and wanting

2661
02:37:58,270 --> 02:38:01,139
to be an astronaut. You believe we've landed on the

2662
02:38:01,139 --> 02:38:04,979
moon? Absolutely. You're a moon believer? You're a believer. I

2663
02:38:04,979 --> 02:38:09,020
am a full believer, yes, sir. All right. And, yeah,

2664
02:38:09,020 --> 02:38:11,979
I've handled some of the rocks even. Dude, come on.

2665
02:38:12,139 --> 02:38:15,340
Oh, sure. Real moon rock. Real moon rock. Yeah, sure.

2666
02:38:15,719 --> 02:38:18,020
How about that firmament, Matt? How'd you get through that?

2667
02:38:18,120 --> 02:38:20,750
I'm not going to ask you. Okay. So, anyway, I

2668
02:38:20,750 --> 02:38:26,700
remember calling... agree to disagree. That's right. Now, I remember

2669
02:38:26,700 --> 02:38:30,600
talking to you shortly after that about the missing pixels

2670
02:38:30,600 --> 02:38:34,520
segment. Oh, gosh. And you brought it up. You brought

2671
02:38:34,520 --> 02:38:37,399
it up with John, and he, like, had bigger fish

2672
02:38:37,399 --> 02:38:40,120
to fry. Yeah. And he moved on with it, and

2673
02:38:40,120 --> 02:38:42,209
I was so bummed because I thought it was one

2674
02:38:42,209 --> 02:38:45,729
of my first contributions that Adam's going to do. But

2675
02:38:45,729 --> 02:38:47,979
what the story was, I was watching live as they

2676
02:38:47,979 --> 02:38:50,610
went around the dark side of the moon. And, of

2677
02:38:50,610 --> 02:38:53,159
course, I was playing some Pink Floyd while they did

2678
02:38:53,159 --> 02:38:57,389
that. So when they emerged, there was video they played

2679
02:38:57,389 --> 02:39:00,500
of... that they had recorded because you know you don't

2680
02:39:00,500 --> 02:39:04,239
get a signal. Well, they're playing it live. It's unedited

2681
02:39:04,239 --> 02:39:06,809
and they're going through and they show as soon as

2682
02:39:06,809 --> 02:39:09,319
they get the full black of the dark side of

2683
02:39:09,319 --> 02:39:12,219
the moon, there are all these little lights all over

2684
02:39:12,219 --> 02:39:15,610
that dark side of the moon. And that's what NASA

2685
02:39:15,610 --> 02:39:18,360
said. Those were just missing pixels. And the guy who

2686
02:39:18,360 --> 02:39:21,879
is narrating it because I'm sitting there going, it looks

2687
02:39:21,879 --> 02:39:24,540
like you're flying over Nebraska in the night is what

2688
02:39:24,540 --> 02:39:28,909
it looked like, you know? Unedited. Yeah. And so I

2689
02:39:28,909 --> 02:39:33,379
watched that and I said, oh, Adam's going to love

2690
02:39:33,379 --> 02:39:36,680
this. And so I had my robot a couple of

2691
02:39:36,680 --> 02:39:40,729
days ago try to find that. She cannot – I

2692
02:39:40,729 --> 02:39:44,600
can't believe I just said that. It cannot find –

2693
02:39:44,600 --> 02:39:50,719
It's missing. Just like all the telemetry. And I said,

2694
02:39:50,719 --> 02:39:53,819
and I got real specific. I said they used the

2695
02:39:53,819 --> 02:39:58,840
term missing pixels. And robots said, well, that's good information.

2696
02:39:58,979 --> 02:40:03,059
I will search for that phrase. And couldn't find nothing.

2697
02:40:03,180 --> 02:40:06,440
It's all gone. It's a cover-up. Because the backside of

2698
02:40:06,440 --> 02:40:10,010
the moon really is Nebraska in the middle of the

2699
02:40:10,010 --> 02:40:13,280
night. Wow, you've come over to the dark side, Matt.

2700
02:40:13,280 --> 02:40:15,840
I'm loving it. Anyway, so I have to start with

2701
02:40:15,840 --> 02:40:19,950
that. But I got plenty of cuts. And... That was

2702
02:40:19,950 --> 02:40:22,940
the whole reason for me bringing second half cuts because

2703
02:40:22,940 --> 02:40:25,889
I had to talk about the missing pixels. But let's

2704
02:40:25,889 --> 02:40:28,500
start. I gave them to you in an order. I'm

2705
02:40:28,500 --> 02:40:31,399
going to take them a little bit different order. Let's

2706
02:40:31,399 --> 02:40:34,750
start with the one that's called More to Come. Now,

2707
02:40:34,750 --> 02:40:38,700
this is on a news channel out of Las Vegas.

2708
02:40:38,790 --> 02:40:43,510
called 8 News Now Las Vegas. And we have George

2709
02:40:43,510 --> 02:40:47,030
Knapp. Oh, we all know George Knapp, sure. I was

2710
02:40:47,030 --> 02:40:49,610
going to say he's a famous UFO guy. Yeah. And

2711
02:40:49,610 --> 02:40:53,620
Ron Futrell, I don't know that. Another famous UFO guy.

2712
02:40:53,620 --> 02:40:57,739
Okay, they're both on Mystery Wire. Which is so believable.

2713
02:40:58,000 --> 02:41:00,979
Well, it looked official, it looked official. They had backgrounds.

2714
02:41:01,239 --> 02:41:05,420
They had little scrolls across the bottom. A real channel.

2715
02:41:05,559 --> 02:41:09,989
Nice. Yeah, it was. And this is October 11th. Now,

2716
02:41:09,989 --> 02:41:13,030
let me set this up because we had that big

2717
02:41:13,030 --> 02:41:16,280
release of all the UFO files. Remember? What was that?

2718
02:41:16,319 --> 02:41:18,459
Six or eight months ago. A couple of releases. A

2719
02:41:18,459 --> 02:41:20,479
couple of releases. Yeah. And we were told. They call

2720
02:41:20,479 --> 02:41:25,600
them dumps. Dumps. Massive dumps. Of caches. So anyway, these

2721
02:41:25,600 --> 02:41:32,180
guys were talking about another dump to come. And he's

2722
02:41:32,180 --> 02:41:39,940
going to use the term AWASAP, something like that. It

2723
02:41:39,940 --> 02:41:47,250
stands for Advanced Aerospace Weapons of... System Applications Program, formerly

2724
02:41:47,250 --> 02:41:54,030
known as AATIP, I believe. AWASP. A-A-W-S-A-P, AWASAP. And so

2725
02:41:54,030 --> 02:41:57,079
that's the terminology he's going to be using. So this

2726
02:41:57,079 --> 02:42:00,700
is more to come. This is exciting news. So hit

2727
02:42:00,700 --> 02:42:04,250
it. But hundreds of people have filed FOIA requests to

2728
02:42:04,250 --> 02:42:07,260
DIA, and DIA has always said, we can't find any

2729
02:42:07,260 --> 02:42:10,100
reports like this. A couple of weeks ago, the White

2730
02:42:10,100 --> 02:42:13,299
House, which is trying to release piles of tranches of

2731
02:42:13,299 --> 02:42:17,899
UFO-related materials, reaches out to DIA itself and says, hey,

2732
02:42:17,899 --> 02:42:21,040
where's those OSAP reports? And DIA told them the same

2733
02:42:21,040 --> 02:42:24,159
thing it's told the public. We can't find them. Suddenly,

2734
02:42:24,159 --> 02:42:27,809
a week ago, Bigelow, who was the contractor, gets a

2735
02:42:27,809 --> 02:42:31,290
letter from DIA about the OSAP reports and whether to

2736
02:42:31,290 --> 02:42:33,860
make them public. I got a call from Mr. Bigelow

2737
02:42:33,860 --> 02:42:36,549
late that evening. He said, oh, my gosh, DIA just

2738
02:42:36,549 --> 02:42:39,319
sent me a letter. He misinterpreted what the meaning of

2739
02:42:39,319 --> 02:42:41,659
it was. He thought DIA was telling him, you have

2740
02:42:41,659 --> 02:42:43,479
to release them. If you've got a copy of it,

2741
02:42:43,479 --> 02:42:46,579
you've got to release them. We've been watching your podcast,

2742
02:42:46,579 --> 02:42:50,850
they said. We know you got them. And release them.

2743
02:42:50,850 --> 02:42:53,110
Well, that's not what the letter said. The letter said

2744
02:42:53,110 --> 02:42:56,409
DIA has now found the OSAP documents. They were stashed

2745
02:42:56,409 --> 02:42:59,540
in a deep cubbyhole somewhere. And they're going to start

2746
02:42:59,540 --> 02:43:02,959
the process of redacting things that need to come out.

2747
02:43:02,959 --> 02:43:04,760
And then they're going to release them to the public.

2748
02:43:04,760 --> 02:43:06,329
Now, that's going to take some time and we can

2749
02:43:06,329 --> 02:43:09,590
get into that. But yeah, the redactions. Yeah, the documents

2750
02:43:09,590 --> 02:43:12,629
are found. And they're coming out There you go More

2751
02:43:12,629 --> 02:43:15,989
to come Good news That's it Proof is coming That's

2752
02:43:15,989 --> 02:43:19,299
right I can't wait Move on to the next one

2753
02:43:19,430 --> 02:43:22,979
Let's see Let's call this one Dune We're going way

2754
02:43:22,979 --> 02:43:25,760
out there We're going all the way out to Saturn

2755
02:43:25,760 --> 02:43:31,040
And this one My robot led me to believe This

2756
02:43:31,040 --> 02:43:34,479
was newer than it was And I had already sent

2757
02:43:34,479 --> 02:43:36,379
it off And I think it's about a year old

2758
02:43:36,379 --> 02:43:41,430
But the posting was brand new So anyway Anyway, hit

2759
02:43:41,430 --> 02:43:45,219
Dune. Hey, guys, this is Scott. I just want to

2760
02:43:45,219 --> 02:43:48,049
remake this video. I posted it earlier, had really bad

2761
02:43:48,049 --> 02:43:50,760
audio. So let's try to do it again. Let's make

2762
02:43:50,760 --> 02:43:53,239
it a little bit shorter, too, so it doesn't bother

2763
02:43:53,239 --> 02:43:57,020
you. Now, I just want everyone to know, Matt sent

2764
02:43:57,020 --> 02:44:00,260
me an email with a bunch of links with time

2765
02:44:00,260 --> 02:44:02,549
codes on it. And I didn't want to hear your

2766
02:44:02,549 --> 02:44:05,739
clips, obviously. Right. So I just told my robot, go

2767
02:44:05,739 --> 02:44:07,879
make these clips for Matt. So I don't know if

2768
02:44:07,879 --> 02:44:09,760
this is where you want it to start. It is.

2769
02:44:09,799 --> 02:44:12,590
That's where it started. It's good so far. Perfect. It

2770
02:44:12,590 --> 02:44:16,489
is. The Saturn Moon Titan. Now, I found something right

2771
02:44:16,489 --> 02:44:20,819
up here. It's a labyrinth. It's a maze. It's huge.

2772
02:44:20,940 --> 02:44:23,280
Have you ever seen Maze Runner? It's just like that.

2773
02:44:23,680 --> 02:44:26,700
I mean, the maze is nearly a quarter to half

2774
02:44:26,700 --> 02:44:31,430
a kilometer high. It's absolutely amazing. And look at this,

2775
02:44:31,430 --> 02:44:33,590
guys. Do you see this maze here? Are you watching

2776
02:44:33,590 --> 02:44:35,639
the video? Just a minute. No. I'm going to bring

2777
02:44:35,639 --> 02:44:38,430
it into focus. No. Add some deepening. I have this

2778
02:44:38,430 --> 02:44:41,879
here. This is Photoscape X. And now you can see

2779
02:44:41,879 --> 02:44:44,129
it a little bit better, right? You can see it

2780
02:44:44,129 --> 02:44:47,219
a little bit better. You see this huge maze going

2781
02:44:47,219 --> 02:44:51,010
down. Okay, now let's put it in negative because NASA

2782
02:44:51,010 --> 02:44:54,229
actually does that already. And add a little bit of

2783
02:44:54,229 --> 02:44:58,180
darkness so it stands out more. And... There you go.

2784
02:44:58,620 --> 02:44:59,940
Now everything seems to be...

2785
02:45:00,020 --> 02:45:03,440
be normal, doesn't it? You can really see this maze-like

2786
02:45:03,440 --> 02:45:07,450
structure ring around part of Titan. And it goes all

2787
02:45:07,450 --> 02:45:10,340
the way up here, all the way down, and all

2788
02:45:10,340 --> 02:45:13,500
the way over here. Look at this. Can you see

2789
02:45:13,500 --> 02:45:17,219
that? That's just amazing. But that's not the amazing part.

2790
02:45:17,379 --> 02:45:21,889
The amazing part is that NASA themselves, yes, NASA themselves

2791
02:45:21,889 --> 02:45:29,010
labels it Gnasa Labyrinthus. Labyrinthus is Latin for labyrinth, which

2792
02:45:29,010 --> 02:45:34,579
is a complex maze. Complex maze that... Ginaz is actually

2793
02:45:34,579 --> 02:45:38,399
the name of a weapons maker from the novel Dune.

2794
02:45:38,559 --> 02:45:41,450
Oh, there you go. Did the booker tell you that

2795
02:45:41,450 --> 02:45:45,899
this is an audio podcast only? Yeah, no. Well, no,

2796
02:45:45,899 --> 02:45:48,180
I knew it was audio, but I thought I didn't

2797
02:45:48,180 --> 02:45:51,159
know if you'd be seeing over there. But yeah, it

2798
02:45:51,159 --> 02:45:57,149
looks like all intelligently made maze on the moon of

2799
02:45:57,149 --> 02:46:03,079
Saturn. And I love the title. in with Dune. Well,

2800
02:46:03,079 --> 02:46:07,559
of course. Although I fell asleep during the new Dune.

2801
02:46:07,819 --> 02:46:10,799
It was eight hours long. I'm like, oh, man. And

2802
02:46:10,799 --> 02:46:13,709
the first Dune was okay, but the second one was

2803
02:46:13,709 --> 02:46:16,319
too tiring for me. No, no. The books were great.

2804
02:46:16,420 --> 02:46:19,379
I loved the books. Yes. The books were good. So

2805
02:46:19,379 --> 02:46:24,319
there we go. There's obviously alien activity. on Titan. Obviously.

2806
02:46:24,840 --> 02:46:28,450
And they've got so much spare time that they build

2807
02:46:28,450 --> 02:46:31,110
mazes. And I'm just wondering if they're going to turn

2808
02:46:31,110 --> 02:46:33,780
orange in the fall, you know, like a pumpkin maze

2809
02:46:33,780 --> 02:46:37,299
or a corn maze. I'm not too sure, but I

2810
02:46:37,299 --> 02:46:40,840
like that stuff. And then here we go. We're going

2811
02:46:40,840 --> 02:46:43,729
to go with this one. I'm going to ignore that

2812
02:46:43,729 --> 02:46:55,979
box. The Israeli one. walked on the moon, and I'm

2813
02:46:55,979 --> 02:46:58,620
using little quotations. Is it Dune or Duke? I think

2814
02:46:58,620 --> 02:47:01,280
it's Duke. Oh, did I say Dune? Duke. Yeah, Charlie

2815
02:47:01,280 --> 02:47:04,629
Duke. Charlie Duke. He walked on the moon. He supposedly

2816
02:47:04,629 --> 02:47:08,879
walked on the moon. So he claims without evidence. Baseless.

2817
02:47:09,239 --> 02:47:14,219
Baseless claims of walking on the moon. And so he's

2818
02:47:14,219 --> 02:47:19,739
being... interviewed by someone at CBN News. And so I

2819
02:47:19,739 --> 02:47:22,860
was trying to find out, you know, Christian broadcast. Yes.

2820
02:47:22,979 --> 02:47:26,319
Cross and break Christian broadcast network. And so I was

2821
02:47:26,319 --> 02:47:30,000
looking for, you know, well, who's the guy interviewing him?

2822
02:47:30,069 --> 02:47:32,860
Couldn't find it. I had my robot ask. And all

2823
02:47:32,860 --> 02:47:35,829
it comes up with is member of the CBM news

2824
02:47:35,829 --> 02:47:39,040
team. Oh, okay. So according to – no, and that

2825
02:47:39,040 --> 02:47:43,239
wasn't my robot. That was according to Gemini. Oh, boy.

2826
02:47:43,319 --> 02:47:46,540
So according to Gemini, he is – there's no name.

2827
02:47:46,639 --> 02:47:49,250
He's just a member of the – that's got to

2828
02:47:49,250 --> 02:47:52,100
be pretty ruthless if you work for that. That's your

2829
02:47:52,100 --> 02:47:56,940
lower third member of CBN. Yeah. So anyway, there's three

2830
02:47:56,940 --> 02:48:00,559
segments on here. The first one is called UFOs and

2831
02:48:00,559 --> 02:48:05,200
Demons, and we're talking about – This guy, Charlie Duke,

2832
02:48:05,200 --> 02:48:09,350
who supposedly walked on the moon, what he thinks about

2833
02:48:09,350 --> 02:48:11,620
UFOs. They're going to get to in the second clip

2834
02:48:11,620 --> 02:48:15,799
what he saw. But let's start with UFOs and demons.

2835
02:48:16,059 --> 02:48:17,940
And I want to hear what Adam has to think

2836
02:48:17,940 --> 02:48:21,780
about this. Well, for a long time, this just goes

2837
02:48:21,780 --> 02:48:26,340
back years and years ago for me. I was praying

2838
02:48:26,340 --> 02:48:32,920
about UFOs and I was asked for a sign. I

2839
02:48:32,920 --> 02:48:38,180
felt like UFOs were demonic. But I was saying that

2840
02:48:38,180 --> 02:48:43,069
at rotary clubs and stuff like that. And people were

2841
02:48:43,069 --> 02:48:45,540
laughing at me off the stage. Yeah. So I said,

2842
02:48:45,540 --> 02:48:49,629
God, if I'm really right about this, then you have

2843
02:48:49,629 --> 02:48:53,879
give me a sign tomorrow morning that a very good

2844
02:48:53,879 --> 02:48:58,040
friend of mine at breakfast will start talking about UFOs.

2845
02:48:58,180 --> 02:49:01,450
And this guy's a businessman. He never talks about science

2846
02:49:01,450 --> 02:49:04,600
stuff or queer stuff like that. So the next morning

2847
02:49:04,600 --> 02:49:07,159
breakfast, we sat down, he said, Charlie, come on over,

2848
02:49:07,159 --> 02:49:09,799
I want to start talking to you about UFOs. So

2849
02:49:09,799 --> 02:49:17,760
to me, that answered my prayer that the Lord says,

2850
02:49:17,760 --> 02:49:22,739
what we're seeing is real, but the devil can appear

2851
02:49:22,739 --> 02:49:26,790
as an angel alike, the Bible says. And so what

2852
02:49:26,790 --> 02:49:32,049
I've been, Leo, is the UFOs are trying to turn

2853
02:49:32,049 --> 02:49:38,200
us away from the truth and run after these alien

2854
02:49:38,200 --> 02:49:42,899
beings, which are really not beings at all. They're demonic.

2855
02:49:43,559 --> 02:49:47,229
So... People laugh at me, and you can laugh at

2856
02:49:47,229 --> 02:49:49,840
me if you want to, but that's the way what

2857
02:49:49,840 --> 02:49:53,719
God showed me, and I'm sticking to it. Well, this

2858
02:49:53,719 --> 02:49:58,750
is interesting. I'm a baby Christian, so I'm not wading

2859
02:49:58,750 --> 02:50:03,149
too far into that. I'm just learning how to pray,

2860
02:50:03,149 --> 02:50:10,000
a lifelong journey. I have definitely heard that the entities

2861
02:50:10,000 --> 02:50:15,290
that we see can be demons. I personally believe more

2862
02:50:15,290 --> 02:50:19,200
that this is Project Bluebeam. You're familiar with Project Bluebeam?

2863
02:50:19,420 --> 02:50:22,370
I think that's more at play where we're going to

2864
02:50:22,370 --> 02:50:26,020
be led to believe that there's some celestial being and

2865
02:50:26,020 --> 02:50:30,930
projections in the sky and – this is i don't

2866
02:50:30,930 --> 02:50:33,770
even know charlie duke as an astronaut did he did

2867
02:50:33,770 --> 02:50:35,770
he was the last man did he play golf on

2868
02:50:35,770 --> 02:50:38,180
the moon did he drive that doom buggy i think

2869
02:50:38,180 --> 02:50:41,350
he might have i think he might have it's interesting

2870
02:50:41,350 --> 02:50:43,809
though so he's a believer and yeah you know the

2871
02:50:43,809 --> 02:50:46,780
other thing that stood out to me was the way

2872
02:50:46,780 --> 02:50:50,250
he specifically asked god in fact he kind of gave

2873
02:50:50,250 --> 02:50:54,559
god direct He said, and I didn't like that. That

2874
02:50:54,559 --> 02:50:57,569
sat really funny with me. I think that's something we

2875
02:50:57,569 --> 02:51:00,059
need to get with Jimmy on. Well, I know what

2876
02:51:00,059 --> 02:51:02,319
he'll say. It's like... And I know because I've been

2877
02:51:02,319 --> 02:51:05,600
praying for things for a long time and sometimes never,

2878
02:51:05,600 --> 02:51:07,309
you know, it hasn't come or it can come in

2879
02:51:07,309 --> 02:51:09,840
a different way. I mean, God has his own timing.

2880
02:51:10,000 --> 02:51:12,600
He'll take his time whenever he's ready is when stuff

2881
02:51:12,600 --> 02:51:15,280
will happen. But if you say... Give me a sign,

2882
02:51:15,280 --> 02:51:18,180
Lord. Make this guy talk about UFOs. Yeah, I'm a

2883
02:51:18,180 --> 02:51:21,620
little skeptical. That one, too. A little skeptical about that.

2884
02:51:21,620 --> 02:51:25,600
A little bit. So the next question, the next cut

2885
02:51:25,600 --> 02:51:29,219
on here is, I think, a good question that all

2886
02:51:29,219 --> 02:51:32,860
astronauts have been asked, those who have been able to

2887
02:51:32,860 --> 02:51:34,659
make it past the – what is it? The Van

2888
02:51:34,659 --> 02:51:36,600
Allen Belt. The Van Allen Belt. Yes, how come you

2889
02:51:36,600 --> 02:51:40,959
didn't try? They want to know had they seen anything

2890
02:51:40,959 --> 02:51:43,229
up there. Oh, and by the way, I'll do a

2891
02:51:43,229 --> 02:51:47,729
quick aside. There is a channel now on Prime Live

2892
02:51:47,729 --> 02:51:51,299
TV, which is a live feed of a satellite radio.

2893
02:51:51,430 --> 02:51:55,489
uh... going around the planet and so you can turn

2894
02:51:55,489 --> 02:51:59,299
it on at any time and watch the live feed

2895
02:51:59,530 --> 02:52:01,860
And I'm telling you what, it's kind of cool. I

2896
02:52:01,860 --> 02:52:04,790
go there. I look at it. You can also watch

2897
02:52:04,790 --> 02:52:08,629
paint dry. Well, but it is. I find it really

2898
02:52:08,629 --> 02:52:12,790
fascinating. But I'm looking for UFOs. Are you just sitting

2899
02:52:12,790 --> 02:52:16,729
there? You don't smoke weed? Because that's something I would

2900
02:52:16,729 --> 02:52:19,559
have done back in the day. Like, oh, man, this

2901
02:52:19,559 --> 02:52:22,000
is so awesome. This is great. call Rogan. Let's do

2902
02:52:22,000 --> 02:52:26,000
some shrooms. Joe, look at this. But I haven't seen

2903
02:52:26,000 --> 02:52:29,450
any UFOs yet. They play nice soothing music in the

2904
02:52:29,450 --> 02:52:33,049
background, you know. But anyway, so I haven't seen any

2905
02:52:33,049 --> 02:52:35,959
UFOs on there. I keep hoping the one will streak

2906
02:52:35,959 --> 02:52:39,319
across there during the live feed. Oh, okay. That's it.

2907
02:52:39,399 --> 02:52:43,600
You're monitoring. I am monitoring. So... Of course, people want

2908
02:52:43,600 --> 02:52:45,760
to know what is the astronauts they've been out there.

2909
02:52:45,760 --> 02:52:49,239
What do astronauts see things? And so this is where

2910
02:52:49,239 --> 02:52:52,870
they ask Charlie Duke, 92 years old, the last man

2911
02:52:52,870 --> 02:52:55,559
to walk on the moon. And I think he's the

2912
02:52:55,559 --> 02:52:59,340
last one left alive. I think he's the last one

2913
02:52:59,340 --> 02:53:01,639
left alive. And so ask him, what did he see

2914
02:53:01,639 --> 02:53:04,000
out there? So here we go. You gave an explanation.

2915
02:53:04,600 --> 02:53:07,190
In your time as an astronaut, did you ever see

2916
02:53:07,190 --> 02:53:11,030
anything you couldn't explain? No, not in my time as

2917
02:53:11,030 --> 02:53:16,030
an astronaut or in my flight to the moon. We

2918
02:53:16,030 --> 02:53:22,420
had some strange... what we call light flashes. As we

2919
02:53:22,420 --> 02:53:25,790
got beyond the Van Allen belts, we see these spikes

2920
02:53:25,790 --> 02:53:29,790
go through. We just zipped past them in a tin

2921
02:53:29,790 --> 02:53:34,079
can. I don't know. which would stimulate our retina, and

2922
02:53:34,079 --> 02:53:36,659
it would be, oh, that one's upper left or lower

2923
02:53:36,659 --> 02:53:39,479
right. You could see a streak go through your eyes.

2924
02:53:40,139 --> 02:53:43,930
And so those are the only... I would say GLP-1,

2925
02:53:43,930 --> 02:53:50,190
maybe. Unusual objects that we had. So they devised an

2926
02:53:50,190 --> 02:53:55,059
experiment It was two moving photographic plates, and they measured,

2927
02:53:55,059 --> 02:53:58,690
I forgot the results of it, but they measured every

2928
02:53:58,690 --> 02:54:01,159
one. You put this thing on and you work for

2929
02:54:01,159 --> 02:54:04,979
a couple of hours. And you would report, oh, there's

2930
02:54:04,979 --> 02:54:07,829
another one up left or lower right. Oh, that one's

2931
02:54:07,829 --> 02:54:10,600
straight on, a big flash. Or there's a fading one

2932
02:54:10,600 --> 02:54:14,290
going away. And so, and those were all recorded on

2933
02:54:14,290 --> 02:54:18,620
these photographic plates. And so when we got back, they

2934
02:54:18,620 --> 02:54:24,299
analyzed all of that stuff. And it was, uh, uh,

2935
02:54:24,299 --> 02:54:28,159
uh, some sort of cosmic particles. And I don't remember

2936
02:54:28,159 --> 02:54:32,959
the definition of them. So they were real, but it

2937
02:54:32,959 --> 02:54:36,799
wasn't anything like looking out the window and seeing a

2938
02:54:36,799 --> 02:54:40,370
UFO. These were all in your mind. She was just

2939
02:54:40,370 --> 02:54:46,879
being... flooded with radiation. That could be it. That's when

2940
02:54:46,879 --> 02:54:53,260
they put him into the other studio. That's right. Before

2941
02:54:53,260 --> 02:54:56,479
we play this last clip, I've never heard this guy

2942
02:54:56,479 --> 02:55:00,409
talk. This is definitely second half of stuff. It's all

2943
02:55:00,409 --> 02:55:03,590
recent, too. I didn't even have to go back. You

2944
02:55:03,590 --> 02:55:06,319
know, I dug for hours and hours to find it.

2945
02:55:06,319 --> 02:55:10,129
No, I had Muse. Your robot. My robot is still

2946
02:55:10,129 --> 02:55:14,750
compiling stories for me today that are the latest breaking

2947
02:55:14,750 --> 02:55:17,229
UFO stories. I'm going to have to get it to

2948
02:55:17,229 --> 02:55:22,829
stop today. But yeah. So here's what I want to

2949
02:55:22,829 --> 02:55:26,559
say about UFOs and aliens, and I may have gotten

2950
02:55:26,559 --> 02:55:29,809
this from Jimmy or maybe not. I may have heard

2951
02:55:29,809 --> 02:55:32,530
it on We Get to Do This, but I believe

2952
02:55:32,530 --> 02:55:38,090
that God created everything. Yeah. Everything. God created everything. Heaven

2953
02:55:38,090 --> 02:55:40,799
and earth. Heaven and earth and everything. And so if

2954
02:55:40,799 --> 02:55:46,379
we're seeing something up there, it's God created it. And

2955
02:55:46,379 --> 02:55:51,000
so I don't have any fear of... alien beings coming

2956
02:55:51,000 --> 02:55:54,090
down and if they do god created them i mean

2957
02:55:54,090 --> 02:55:57,559
that's that's where i that's where i'm going to stand

2958
02:55:57,559 --> 02:55:59,870
on that and um and there's a lot of things

2959
02:55:59,870 --> 02:56:03,370
we don't understand you go back to the uh pre-flood

2960
02:56:03,370 --> 02:56:09,010
anti-deluvial times and i'm fascinated by that when when giants

2961
02:56:09,010 --> 02:56:11,989
and walked the earth and The Nephilim. Angel and the

2962
02:56:11,989 --> 02:56:16,139
Nephilim, all of that stuff. I love that stuff. It's

2963
02:56:16,139 --> 02:56:18,319
so fascinating. There's a lot of podcasts out there for

2964
02:56:18,319 --> 02:56:20,959
you, Matt. Oh, I know, but I do my own

2965
02:56:20,959 --> 02:56:24,379
research. Oh, you do? Oh, it's called reading. Yes, very

2966
02:56:24,379 --> 02:56:27,559
good. Yes, it's called reading. So that's where I stand

2967
02:56:27,559 --> 02:56:32,200
on these unusual things. I believe everything comes from God.

2968
02:56:32,540 --> 02:56:35,809
And so that's really where I stand. Whatever we're seeing,

2969
02:56:35,809 --> 02:56:38,700
God created it. So let's go to the last one.

2970
02:56:38,799 --> 02:56:41,639
And I did very specially pick this one out just

2971
02:56:41,639 --> 02:56:44,750
for you, especially with you in mind. I called it

2972
02:56:44,750 --> 02:56:49,299
the big question because my heart has been broken since

2973
02:56:49,299 --> 02:56:51,850
I heard you talk about the fact that you don't

2974
02:56:51,850 --> 02:56:54,920
think we walked on the moon. You know, we have

2975
02:56:54,920 --> 02:56:59,479
our lead app developer at Godcaster, Paul Bailey. Yeah. He's

2976
02:56:59,479 --> 02:57:03,610
a no agenda guy, but he actually stopped listening for

2977
02:57:03,610 --> 02:57:07,329
about five years once he heard that because he used

2978
02:57:07,329 --> 02:57:09,969
to work for – the air force and the space

2979
02:57:09,969 --> 02:57:13,020
unit and he was heartbroken when he heard it he's

2980
02:57:13,020 --> 02:57:18,139
still kind of mad at me so so anyway here

2981
02:57:18,139 --> 02:57:22,149
is the big question and this again is um charlie

2982
02:57:22,149 --> 02:57:27,049
duke 92 years old the last man so supposedly to

2983
02:57:27,049 --> 02:57:30,829
walk on the moon and this cut is especially for

2984
02:57:30,829 --> 02:57:36,399
you adam so hit the button Wow. Okay. Now, obviously,

2985
02:57:36,399 --> 02:57:37,739
I want to get into real things, but I have

2986
02:57:37,739 --> 02:57:39,809
to ask you one more question because you know, obviously,

2987
02:57:39,809 --> 02:57:42,110
over the years, there have been all these conspiracy theories

2988
02:57:42,110 --> 02:57:43,770
about how you didn't really go to the moon, how

2989
02:57:43,770 --> 02:57:45,469
you didn't really walk on the moon, how this was

2990
02:57:45,469 --> 02:57:48,739
all concocted and manufactured. How do you – I mean,

2991
02:57:48,739 --> 02:57:52,600
as somebody who got – got in, went up, saw

2992
02:57:52,600 --> 02:57:54,889
the moon, walked on it. What do you make of

2993
02:57:54,889 --> 02:57:57,239
that? How have you responded to those things over the

2994
02:57:57,239 --> 02:57:59,200
years? Because there are a lot of people who will

2995
02:57:59,200 --> 02:58:05,100
say that stuff. Well, the evidence, the way I respond,

2996
02:58:05,100 --> 02:58:09,159
it says, look – You just haven't investigated it thoroughly.

2997
02:58:09,159 --> 02:58:13,190
The evidence is overwhelming. We landed on the moon. There's

2998
02:58:13,190 --> 02:58:17,129
a satellite orbiting the moon now called the Lunar Reconnaissance

2999
02:58:17,129 --> 02:58:21,770
Orbiter. It's taken pictures of every landing site. And at

3000
02:58:21,770 --> 02:58:25,610
the landing sites now, you can see on our landing

3001
02:58:25,610 --> 02:58:28,500
site, you can see the descent stage. You can see

3002
02:58:28,500 --> 02:58:31,790
the experiments package. You can see the car that we

3003
02:58:31,790 --> 02:58:37,379
left up there. And not individual footprints, but you can

3004
02:58:37,379 --> 02:58:42,309
see how we had turned up the surface. The moon

3005
02:58:42,309 --> 02:58:47,409
on top is sort of a dark white, but when

3006
02:58:47,409 --> 02:58:50,659
you flip it over, it's not radiated and it's real

3007
02:58:50,659 --> 02:58:53,500
bright white. Yeah. And so you can see that in

3008
02:58:53,500 --> 02:58:57,750
the pictures and in every Apollo landing site, they've got

3009
02:58:57,750 --> 02:59:02,200
pictures like that. And so we've got 600 pounds of

3010
02:59:02,200 --> 02:59:09,059
moon rocks that are totally different from Earth rocks. And

3011
02:59:09,059 --> 02:59:11,969
we've got experiments that we left up there that are

3012
02:59:11,969 --> 02:59:15,690
experiments. The mirrors. The data for years and years. The

3013
02:59:15,690 --> 02:59:19,409
family NASA got so tired of it or either the

3014
02:59:19,409 --> 02:59:22,200
batteries went dead that they just shut them down. And

3015
02:59:22,200 --> 02:59:26,979
so there's no question that we went to the moon.

3016
02:59:26,979 --> 02:59:32,059
And there were six landings. No question. And we even

3017
02:59:32,059 --> 02:59:38,239
one landing. Yeah. not Neil, but it was the next

3018
02:59:38,239 --> 02:59:41,860
one, they landed right next to the surveyor. They took

3019
02:59:41,860 --> 02:59:45,469
pictures of themselves standing there and they whacked off a

3020
02:59:45,469 --> 02:59:49,440
piece of it. And so the elements, I don't see

3021
02:59:49,440 --> 02:59:54,239
how you can deny the moon landings. But people are

3022
02:59:54,239 --> 02:59:56,739
always looking. You know how it is. People are always

3023
02:59:56,739 --> 02:59:58,770
like, we can move on from that. I'm just curious

3024
02:59:58,770 --> 02:59:59,959
to get your reaction to it.

3025
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:01,649
Because I've never gotten to ask anybody who's been to

3026
03:00:01,649 --> 03:00:03,879
the moon what they think of. That was good. There

3027
03:00:03,879 --> 03:00:06,379
you go. I've never heard that guy, though. That's good.

3028
03:00:06,579 --> 03:00:10,000
That's good. I like it. I like it. Okay. Was

3029
03:00:10,000 --> 03:00:12,899
that your second half, Matt? I appreciate it. That was

3030
03:00:12,899 --> 03:00:14,690
my second half. Oh, I do have a tip of

3031
03:00:14,690 --> 03:00:17,159
the day. And that's why we're going to end the

3032
03:00:17,159 --> 03:00:26,600
show with Matt's tip of the day. Okay. There we

3033
03:00:26,600 --> 03:00:33,780
go. My tip of the day, real simple and easy,

3034
03:00:33,780 --> 03:00:41,659
acetone. Acetone. Acetone. Acetone is the most amazing cleanup. This

3035
03:00:41,659 --> 03:00:45,670
is this is one that John did cleaning. He had

3036
03:00:45,670 --> 03:00:49,420
all kinds of cleaning products. Well, this one's real specific.

3037
03:00:50,090 --> 03:00:53,799
I first discovered it when... I don't throw anything away.

3038
03:00:53,799 --> 03:00:57,399
You were trying to clean your fingernails? That's right. First

3039
03:00:57,399 --> 03:01:00,540
of all, I'll get to the fingernail polish. But the

3040
03:01:00,540 --> 03:01:06,420
whiteboards. Now, I'm sure nobody... Does anybody even use whiteboards

3041
03:01:06,420 --> 03:01:13,129
anymore? Check the calendar, dude. Okay. Well... That's why I

3042
03:01:13,129 --> 03:01:15,500
pull them out of the dumpster. You know, people throw

3043
03:01:15,500 --> 03:01:18,760
them away because, you know, they'd get marks on them,

3044
03:01:18,760 --> 03:01:22,399
and you get that little eraser thing, and it never

3045
03:01:22,399 --> 03:01:27,370
quite get them all off, right? Acetone makes them, like,

3046
03:01:27,370 --> 03:01:31,340
new. It doesn't burn off some layer or anything. No,

3047
03:01:31,340 --> 03:01:33,829
it might burn off some brain cells. Use it under

3048
03:01:33,829 --> 03:01:39,500
– Don't sniff it. Use it under well – Ventilated.

3049
03:01:39,500 --> 03:01:42,629
Ventilated. There's the word I was looking for. Your wife

3050
03:01:42,629 --> 03:01:45,379
will probably – or, well, maybe some of your –

3051
03:01:45,500 --> 03:01:49,030
children will uh are buying fingernail polish maneuver which by

3052
03:01:49,030 --> 03:01:52,440
the way is about 70 to 80 percent acetone so

3053
03:01:52,440 --> 03:01:55,229
they water it down and add a little bit of

3054
03:01:55,229 --> 03:01:58,780
perfume to it and you're paying like six or seven

3055
03:01:58,780 --> 03:02:02,510
dollars for a four to eight ounce bottle of acetone

3056
03:02:02,510 --> 03:02:05,659
you can get a quart and actually the price of

3057
03:02:05,659 --> 03:02:08,120
acetone has gone up and I'm wondering if it has

3058
03:02:08,120 --> 03:02:10,520
anything to do with the war. Can I drive my

3059
03:02:10,520 --> 03:02:15,059
car on acetone? You probably could. You probably could. But

3060
03:02:15,059 --> 03:02:20,680
it's also good for you can restock your wife's fingernail

3061
03:02:20,680 --> 03:02:23,719
polish. Just dilute it a little bit. You know, 20-30%

3062
03:02:23,719 --> 03:02:28,280
dilution. With water? With water, yeah, water. And also So

3063
03:02:28,280 --> 03:02:31,879
my wife won't have stubby fingers, you know, burned off

3064
03:02:31,879 --> 03:02:34,959
by the acetone? Well, that's, yeah. And, you know, if

3065
03:02:34,959 --> 03:02:38,500
you're a penny pincher like me, I did check the

3066
03:02:38,500 --> 03:02:42,680
most recent price on acetone is about $12 a quart.

3067
03:02:42,680 --> 03:02:45,129
I'm living down by the river in a van with

3068
03:02:45,129 --> 03:02:50,040
a quart of acetone and government cheese. Okay. It'll get

3069
03:02:50,040 --> 03:02:52,940
sticker gunk off of stuff. Yeah, that'll be good. So

3070
03:02:52,940 --> 03:02:56,219
if you pull off a sticker, I had a shirt

3071
03:02:56,219 --> 03:02:59,059
that I put my voted sticker to on, and it

3072
03:02:59,059 --> 03:03:02,200
went through the washer. And so it has this oval

3073
03:03:02,200 --> 03:03:06,159
of the I voted is what's left of it. But,

3074
03:03:06,159 --> 03:03:09,610
hey, acetone, a little bit of elbow grease that pops

3075
03:03:09,610 --> 03:03:12,829
right there. try out acetone's amazing it didn't fade the

3076
03:03:12,829 --> 03:03:14,979
color of the rest of the shirt didn't do anything

3077
03:03:14,979 --> 03:03:17,780
to it it'll take it right off it'll clean uh

3078
03:03:17,780 --> 03:03:21,200
coming up christmas time gift time you know yeah i

3079
03:03:21,200 --> 03:03:24,270
hate that i think it's so tacky to see the

3080
03:03:24,270 --> 03:03:28,680
half pulled off sticker on the gift and then you

3081
03:03:28,680 --> 03:03:32,239
try to scrape it off with your fingernail and But

3082
03:03:32,239 --> 03:03:36,149
it's like, no, go get the acetone. And so, yeah,

3083
03:03:36,149 --> 03:03:38,829
I had to come up with some tip of the

3084
03:03:38,829 --> 03:03:41,540
day. I love it. It's an excellent tip of the

3085
03:03:41,540 --> 03:03:44,799
day. Get yourself a quart of acetone, $12. It is

3086
03:03:44,799 --> 03:03:49,780
beautiful. Matt's tip of the day. Great advice for you

3087
03:03:49,780 --> 03:03:56,280
and me. Just the tip with JC. and sometimes Adam.

3088
03:03:57,020 --> 03:04:00,040
Created by Dana Burnetti. Now, before we go, I have

3089
03:04:00,040 --> 03:04:03,479
three ISOs today. So you are going to have to

3090
03:04:03,479 --> 03:04:06,000
choose. I'm going to let you choose which one we

3091
03:04:06,000 --> 03:04:08,620
use. Are you ready? I'm ready. ISO number one. Everybody

3092
03:04:08,620 --> 03:04:13,290
hates journalists. A little muddy. Yeah, a little. Listen to

3093
03:04:13,290 --> 03:04:15,629
you like a pro. A little muddy. All right, here's

3094
03:04:15,629 --> 03:04:20,270
the next one. Freaking amazing. Rachel Maddow. And then this

3095
03:04:20,270 --> 03:04:25,049
one you could have expected. Sparky. Bad sparky. Yeah. I

3096
03:04:25,049 --> 03:04:28,120
got to go with the middle one. With Rachel? Yeah.

3097
03:04:28,360 --> 03:04:31,989
With Rachel? Freaking amazing. All right. That's what this show

3098
03:04:31,989 --> 03:04:35,500
was. Freaking amazing today. It was freaking amazing. I tell

3099
03:04:35,500 --> 03:04:38,989
you, man. It's freaking amazing. Matt, thank you very much,

3100
03:04:38,989 --> 03:04:43,799
brother. You are a true gem. A gem. A gem.

3101
03:04:43,799 --> 03:04:46,909
thank you sir gem to have you here love having

3102
03:04:46,909 --> 03:04:49,899
you on the show let's see coming up next on

3103
03:04:49,899 --> 03:04:54,510
the no agenda stream we have oh Sir Bemrose is

3104
03:04:54,510 --> 03:04:57,899
scheduled we get to do this number 54 perfect You

3105
03:04:57,899 --> 03:05:00,170
can hear what I said, what Pastor Jimmy and I

3106
03:05:00,170 --> 03:05:03,079
talked about. Thank you, Sir Ben Rose. Matt, thank you,

3107
03:05:03,079 --> 03:05:06,110
brother. I appreciate you. I'll see you Saturday at the

3108
03:05:06,110 --> 03:05:09,440
big Fredericksburg meet-up. You will. I'm looking forward to it.

3109
03:05:09,459 --> 03:05:12,510
One form of me or another. It'll be Ben Franklin,

3110
03:05:12,510 --> 03:05:16,620
I'm sure. uh... so thank you all very much remember

3111
03:05:16,620 --> 03:05:19,520
another no agenda show coming up on sunday of course

3112
03:05:19,520 --> 03:05:22,420
we'll have the meetup report from the fredericksburg meetup and

3113
03:05:22,420 --> 03:05:25,129
we will continue to deconstruct the media and try and

3114
03:05:25,129 --> 03:05:27,989
make sense of your world one end of show makes

3115
03:05:27,989 --> 03:05:30,360
the credit wine burgs and at the very end he

3116
03:05:30,360 --> 03:05:32,500
said all this is perfect for you so i didn't

3117
03:05:32,500 --> 03:05:37,420
even listen to it i just trust them Until Sunday,

3118
03:05:37,420 --> 03:05:44,860
remember us at noaginadonations.com. Adios, mofos. Hooey, hooey. And such.