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Who hasn't been canceled? It's the No Exender Show! It

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is Sunday, August 16th, 2026. This is your Gitmo Nation

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Media Assassination Episode 1895, broadcasting live from just outside of

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Chirac, right here in FEMA, Region No. 5. In the

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morning, everybody, I am Darren O'Neill. And from the pretentious

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Connecticut shore, this is Larry Blydner keeping commies and creeps

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at bay with my gleaming scimitar of truth. Yeah, I

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mean, that was it, man. Woo! I love that new

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intro. We'll get chicks voice. And it's great. It's great

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stuff. Nice work, Darren. Larry wanted chicks. I know it

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wasn't just bakers. He brought in a bunch and it

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was like, well, we need this stuff to talk over

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and it needs to be a little quieter. And I'm

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like, let me go back into Suno and see and

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move everything around. And yeah, it's AI. And people are

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gonna be like, go fake and gay. then you put

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something in send something in where's sir chris vox where's

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some heavy metal directly from uh somebody that can play

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the guitar and sing there we go but like we

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can do the theremin let's add some theremin gotta have

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some theremin it always adds a certain uh creepy vibe

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Which we dig. Even on a beautiful Sunday morning. What's

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it like in Chicago? Chirac, excuse me, this morning or

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this afternoon, Darren. Tell me. Well, you're right with the

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time. Because I had been doing the rock and roll

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pre-show for like 700 episodes. And I was always just,

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okay, I did that. And then I went to have

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lunch. I forget that this show is like, I should

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eat something before the show. So literally like five minutes

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ago, I'm like, oh crap, this is going to be

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through. I'm going to be hungry. So I had to

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go grab a bar, a little bit of pudding, you

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know, something like that just to get you going. You

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need something. Definitely. But the rain finally stopped for like

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the first time in a week. The rain stopped? So

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you've been getting rained on all this time? Yeah, pretty

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much. No, it's no fun. But it's 82 degrees now,

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so you never know what's going to happen. You never

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know. It's a picture-perfect day in Connecticut. Well, what is

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that for Connecticut, though? Nice and cool? It's like high

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70s, puffy whites, very low humidity. Really, it's kind of

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like California. Well, no, why would you do that then?

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Right, exactly. But it's been rainy, too, out here. But,

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you know, we're still breathing. That's all that matters. It's

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the only way to go. Yeah. And we do encourage

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people to keep sending things in clips and openers and

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all the donations, donations, donations, the voice of JCD past.

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It's like what you need to do is you need

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to, you need to donate, keep the show going, vote

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and let people know that, you know, you want to

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keep this, uh, This pairing here. That's it. You've got...

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Donate! Donate! Go on, Nick! karma. Yeah, everybody gets, that

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really should be the one. Without the karma, we'll get

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karma. It's free. But donate. We are bringing you the

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best in media deconstruction. And nothing's going on in the

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world at all, Larry. Have you noticed how boring it

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is? You are so. You got to stop fibbing. Don't

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fib this early in the show. Save it for later.

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Like you have so much to do. Yeah. And I

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love, I mean, I've been reading the Reddit threads and

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people are like, these guys suck, man. I love the

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same people will complain. Darren and Larry, their voices sound

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way too radio. And then in another message, they're like,

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they're not playing enough of the jingles. Like, well, do

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you know that's the radio sound, right? That's the whole

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bit. Like, they don't even play the bell, man. Well,

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why don't they play the bell? Well, I have one

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of those little bells. I'd get one if you want.

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Yeah. Ding, ding, ding. Well, Reddit is so weird, man.

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I rarely visit that place because it's out there. It

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is. You can't believe anything that you read on Reddit.

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No. And for everybody that was like, oh, and then

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Adam was really mad that people were telling him to

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do the show with Mimi. So I thought about it

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like everybody on Reddit, do me a favor, get your

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wife or your children to write your post because it's

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just the same as you, according to Adam should do

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the show with Mimi. Then, well, then your wife should

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be the same. Put her on Reddit instead of you.

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It's going to be exactly the same, right? Because you

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can just interchange anybody. I think Reddit is mostly comprised

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of AOC voters living in their basement. Yeah. Of their

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parents' house. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Without a job. Without hope. Quite

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possibly. Without a lot of hope. Exactly. Yeah. Which one

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of these things do you want to jump into first

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from the Trump decoy plane to the in Iran? You

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know what? I'm going to do a switcheroo on you,

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Darren. I know I had Emily Gallagher label is number

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one. But since we were talking about people living in

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their parents' basements, I think we have to start with

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clip two. Abdul is Blue's Clues, that one. Okay, so

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I get a little set up here. Okay. Now, are

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you hip to Blue's Clues? I have nieces and nephews

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who were very big into Blue's. Is he still around?

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I know there's like a weird dude and there was

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like a handy dandy notebook and something like that. Yeah,

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for those who may not know, it was a kid's

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show back probably at least 20 years ago or more.

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hosted by a guy, a very nice young dude dressed

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in a rugby shirt and jeans. And it was probably

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created for kids from, I would say, what would you

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say, like maybe three to eight years old, something like

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that. Very young kids. Yeah, so the parents can put

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them in front of the television and be like, ah,

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that's your babysitter. Yes, and also, unlike Sesame Street and

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some of the other things, it wasn't at all slanted.

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the reason I used to let my kids watch it,

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and they liked it a lot. And so this guy

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sitting there, and he had a digital fake screen behind

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him, and Blue was the name of his dog. It

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was like this cute little hound dog, except it was

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fake. It was a digital cartoon thing. And they would

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learn to count and the alphabet and all that kind

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of stuff. So that said, this Abdul El-Sayand posted this

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actually a few weeks ago and it just resurfaced everywhere.

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I'm talking about, well, voting and Medicare and so forth.

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purpose, on purpose, on purpose of the exact same set.

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Little, little cartoon things kind of wicking and out of

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the screen. And it's beyond belief. You got to hear

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this indoctrination. Anyone? Oh, yeah. Which is why we need

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money out of politics, money in your pocket, and Medicare

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for all. Here's the mail. It never fails. It makes

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me want to wag my tail. When it comes, I

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want to wail. Mail! Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. This

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is else I had singing and doing a bit. This

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is not AI. This is legit. This is real. Yes.

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This is who people in Michigan want to put into

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office, huh? Into the Senate. Yeah, right in Washington, D.C.

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Thanks, mailbox. We just got a letter. We just got

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a letter. We just got a letter. I wonder who

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it's from. You're loving this. What I'm loving this to

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our buddy net net who lives in the great state.

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working on a boots on the ground that he said

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is probably going to have to be multiple pages and

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reports because of how bad things are. And I believe

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it now. This is. Yeah. Cementing that. Oh, yeah. Like,

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wow. Wow. It looks like my ballot. Yeah. brought to

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me by my secretary of state And with it, I

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can participate in democracy. The first day that I can

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turn this in is June 25th, but it has to

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be postmarked by July 21st. Or I can drop it

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off up until Election Day, which is August 4th. Thanks,

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Secretary of State. Thanks, Mailbox. Votes gonna do, we can't

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do. You should be thanking the U.S. Postal Service, which

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may or may not get your ballots there on time.

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on this. I saw this posted on X and there

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was an avalanche. I mean, a fire hose of comments

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saying, what are you, an idiot? You're just all negative

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stuff. Grow up, get a job, whatever, et cetera, et

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cetera. And then I realized he's no idiot, man. He's

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very, very smart because this content goes right to the

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heart. of most of his electorate because he's talking to

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kid alts. True. People who never, really, they never grew

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up. They want someone to take care of them because

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they either can't or don't want to do it themselves.

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Right. So here's we're all on a kiddie show together.

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It's Blue's Clues and Daddy Abdul will take care of

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you. And think about it, Darren. How many times? How

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many times going back maybe even to the Clintons? did

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people sort of refer to them as like America's mom

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and dad? I don't know if you ever did. I

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know I didn't know. Right. Then it was Michelle and

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Obama. Yeah. Then it was Joey and, and, and Jill.

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Right. Then was it Reese Witherspoon? That's, Oh, you're mama.

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Yes, yes, yes, yes. We all need a mamala. Exactly.

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So this guy is very, very sharp, and he's not

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afraid to look like an idiot in service to grabbing

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votes. And a lot of his people are going to

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say yes because of that goofy cartoon. Well, because he

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seems so likable. Yeah. Be clear, when I was in

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college, I was the one walking around with a T-shirt

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that had a drawing of Bill Clinton's face on it.

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the answer. And on the back, it said, it must

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be a really stupid question. So, yeah, I've always been

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on the right. Did you get any heat over that

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from your fellow students? At that time, no, because it

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was so early. Well, you're 6'5", though. True. Who's going

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to, you know, really? This is true. And it was

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the, you know, late 80s, early 90s era, so it

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then, obviously... The university, which was a Catholic university, DePaul

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University in Chicago, was going completely woke. I was a

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communications major. I'm sure that's not a surprise to anybody.

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He likes to talk. The head of the department was.

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A lesbian who liked to spend way too much of

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the class time talking about her and her partner going

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down to, I think it was Peru, one of those

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kind of Southern American countries to adopt a child. And

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so it's gotten a lot worse from the boots on

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the ground that we've all heard. And of course, these

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kids who are being promised things without understanding the ramifications,

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it's easy. If somebody walks up to you and like,

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hey, do you want X amount of money or do

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you want this prize? Well, yes. Well, yes. Like on

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game shows. Remember when that all broke? Like, Hey, somebody

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won a hundred thousand dollars on a game show. Yay.

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And then they're like, but then I had to pay

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$20,000 in taxes and I can't afford $20,000 in taxes.

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It's because the electorate overall, the, Is not paying attention.

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I mean, since we're on socials, I'm going to run

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a Chris Matthews clip. One, I was interested that he's

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still alive. Me too. I think I saw this one.

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And you know what? He's been gone. What would you

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say? Maybe 10 years by now? Probably. I think so.

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I mean, that would be my guess. Between five and

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10 since the, it was Obama, the shiver up his

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leg. And then that was kind of his. Right. out

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going out the door so it was might even be

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12 years ago or so and and let's he was

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also canceled for some reason he didn't leave voluntarily what

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happened we need to you know we need we need

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that we need that book of knowledge guy right we

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need to directly up uh yeah yeah But here's what

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I was thinking, just to divert just for a moment,

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is I was thinking about this a lot. We need

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a book of knowledge. chick right too often really so

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adam has his with the guy yes voice yes yes

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and you or some other ben or maybe adam somebody

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cooked this up for us and she's got a really

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sexy voice really sexy but she's kind of snarky and

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snotty So we ask her a question. She's like, what

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do you want now? Stop bothering me. Exactly. Wouldn't that

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be fun? That was the other fun thing on Reddit

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was, I looked these guys up. Who are they? And

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they have, they have this show called Planet Rage that

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always has pornographic album art. It's like, What you mean?

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What? Fully clothed redheads and Irish pubs. Oh, that's it.

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Yeah. But this, I mean, this is what the, it

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has to be a leftist. Sorry. Sorry for pointing at

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that because they're the only ones that would look at

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a fully clothed woman and go, that's porn. Of course.

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Yes. No, it's a picture. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a

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pointy chick. And it's all created by Grok. So all

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hail Elon. There you are. But here is Chris Matthews.

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They probably never saw a real woman. That may be

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the problem. That's the answer. And they're like, we don't

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understand what this is. Here's what I think. And I've

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been thinking about this for days now. The DSA has

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done a favor to non DSA Democrats, to regular Democrats

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who are regular members of the party. They've listed what

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they believe in. Their chair made that clear. It's in

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Peggy Noonan's column this week. It's very clear. We're going

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to get rid of ICE, not just ICE. We're going

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to get rid of the border. We're not going to

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have a border anymore. We're not going to effectively control.

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We're going to get rid of the Pentagon. We're going

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to negotiate. Well, what happens when your hostages are your

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former diplomats, like what happened with President Carter? People take

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your diplomats hostages. What do you do then? You need

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an army. You don't like to like to have an

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army, but you do need to have one. All these

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positions can be denied by any regular Democrat. All you

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have to do is go out there and say, thank

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you, DSA, for telling us what you believe in. I

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don't believe in that stuff. And why haven't they? That's

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the question we've we've been asking this on Planet Rage

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for the last five years, which was. Why are the

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moderate normal Democrats and it seems there's less of them

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now, but why have they been acquiescing to this new,

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very radical part? I mean, is it all just money?

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Is it all just fear? I don't understand how you

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can sell your whole soul and country down the toilet.

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They're all commies, Darren. All of them. I mean, the

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ones that say you don't need an army, it's like,

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okay, let's just understand for one minute that if you

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had no army, this country would be taken over within

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seconds. Well, they're in favor of an army, and that's

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the one that's dispersed or dispatched, rather, by the flock

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cameras to say, get that citizen. He dropped a gum

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wrapper. You're much safer. We can see you, but we

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really can't do anything about it. Yeah. That's the army

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they want, the federal, the police state. They're kind of

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getting it. Somebody sitting in a room with 8,000 monitors

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watching everything that's going on and going, well, look, there's

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an armed robbery or there's a sexual assault. What can

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we do? Well, nothing. We don't have police or anybody

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anymore. Yeah. But we have cameras. I mean, we're not

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going to put anybody in jail, but we have cameras.

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Well, they won't put anybody in jail for anything that

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matters, but like being maybe a podcaster saying the wrong

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things, that'll get you locked up. True. They're coming for

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us, man. They're coming for us. Oh, wait, here. We

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agreed. We agreed. Okay, we rang the bell. Woo! By

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the way, I checked. Chris Matthews was bounced for allegations

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of sexual harassment. So there we go. I like Bill

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O'Reilly, which means none of it was probably true. And

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it was, again, a way to get rid of somebody

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that you didn't like. And I love how people are

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very, very... specific about who they believe and who they

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don't. And I'm getting, I get tired of that. It's

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like, if you believe somebody like Bill O'Reilly and I

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do, I also believe Chris Matthews. If he says he

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didn't do it, it's like, where's the proof that there's

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no proof, you know, for guys that have the audience

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that O'Reilly and Matthews had in the past, silencing them

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they tried to do it to rush they tried to

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do it to hannity they tried to do it to

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any conservative voice without fail and matthews probably said something

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the ultra left didn't like so like this what he's

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saying right here oh man the dsa people they don't

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want to hear this well real proof has become kind

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of optional hasn't it And in proof of that, there's

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this story about another. This is really funny. You know

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that Sinatra song, That's Life, right? That's Life. Flying high

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in April, shot down in May, right? Well, this guy

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was flying high in August and shot down a week

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later. His name is Matt Guttman. You heard about this

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one? No, I don't think so. Now, this is classic,

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and you've got to kind of look behind this, because

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I think there's more to this story than they're telling,

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or someone's telling. CBS Evening News scored its best weekly

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audience in months as struggling anchor Tony Dokopil was on

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vacation. And I've seen Tony. He's fantastic. He's pretty damn

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boring, right? Tony's show averaged 4.1 million viewers for the

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week of July 27th. I'm sorry, this is this other

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guy, the replacement guy, Matt Cuttney. He got 4.1 million

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viewers for the week of July 27th, according to Nielsen,

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making the show's best performance in 17 weeks. And the

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first time the Evening O's has topped the 4 million

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viewer mark since late March. Okay. These upbeat numbers came

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in as Matt Guttman filled in for Dokopil, who has

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been struggling to keep the show's ratings up. Right now.

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Hosanna. Guttman's probably feeling real good about that. Isn't he?

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Sure he is. One week later... CBS star Matt Gutman

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is facing a bombshell sexual harassment lawsuit. As his turn

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behind the CBS Evening News desk helped deliver the struggling

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network, a ratings boost. The 48-year-old was sued Friday by

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former ABC News field reporter Samira Saeed, who accused him

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of making inappropriate sexual remarks during two assignments. assignments. When,

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Darren? Years ago. Has to be years ago. You got

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it. Not just years ago, several years ago. You picked

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the mic. I heard it. That was me. I was

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getting gesticulated with joy over this story. So it says

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that she filed a lawsuit in LA Superior Court naming

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Gutman, ABC News, and the parent company, the Walt Disney

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Company, as... defendants right now. Do you think, isn't the

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timing of this suit rather strange? Yeah, you waited until

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you saw him on TV and went, huh? Yeah. Somebody

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doesn't want him there. So let's do this. This is

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the playbook. The company meet.

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Yeah, I ate what there was at the one that

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all went after was the concerted effort going after the

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advertisers of Limbaugh. That's really where it started with like

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Limbaugh and Fox News. Yes. And then it kind of

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just steamrolled from there because they realized people had. zero

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spine and at any hint of a, scandal at all

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they would pull their advertising and i was having a

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conversation with serjean the russian handler the other day about

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youtube videos and it's a very similar thing he's like

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you can't easily make money on youtube if you're doing

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a show like ours Like no agenda, like planet rage,

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like that Larry. You can't make money because advertisers run

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away where you're making money are. Oh, let's talk about

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Lego or let's talk about something so vanilla that there

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can never be any controversy. That's where the advertisers want

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to put their money because of this. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

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So somehow Gene is making money by putting like very

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boring space video games up there. And he's like, thanks

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for the warning. But it's great. I mean, if you

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can make money doing it, that's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's

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great. But it's because the hotter content doesn't make money.

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And this does not surprise me, except the guy, the

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guy's name. It's funny because you say Gutman. The first

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thing I think is Gutfeld. And I'm like, is it?

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No, no. The other guy. Gutman. Now, the interesting thing

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is, too, I think whoever this woman's attorneys are to

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file this now, I think they're they're not that sharp

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because if I was. Those guys, I would wait until

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Gutman, who looks like he was lining up to replace

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Dopukle, whatever his name is, wait until he's really entrenched

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and maybe capping five million views a night. Then you

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sue. Now CBS is going to give you a lot

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more go-away money with a guy like that sitting in

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place. Is it about the money or is it about

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getting rid of the guy? Well, it could be both.

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Yeah. Yeah. Nobody said people on the left are all

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that smart. No, no. This is just a quick drop

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from a Chelsea handler, which made me. Did you see

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this one? Oh, yeah. We're going to get Todd Blanche.

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He's going to be confirmed. And what's he's going to

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overturn Roe v. Wade. We're. What? He's going to overturn

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Roe v. Wade. Wait a minute. Didn't that happen already?

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Yes. Years ago. Supreme Court. We're all sitting around all

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these men who have these powerful platforms are sitting around

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watching this happen to women, to communities that you could

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instead be supporting. You don't have to like turn over

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a whole new leaf. It's just about being a decent

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human being. And this again was with Kara Swisher. Yes.

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And she says, right. Right. So is Karis Wisher ignorant

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of the fact that Roe v. Wade was already thrown

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down by the Supreme Court? But it's like, what are

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these people on the news for? This is why. You

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cannot believe anything you see on any news program. It

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doesn't matter what network it's on or what podcast it's

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on. Always double check your work, kids, because the anchors

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very rarely are going to push back. If Kara Swisher

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had any. idea of what was going on or journalistic

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credibility. She'd be like, well, what do you mean overturn

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Roe v. Wade? How's he going to do that? The

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Supreme court did that. But you wouldn't do that because

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Chelsea's her buddy, right? It's like, you can't know that

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would be, that would be inconvenient. Yeah. Yeah. But it's

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the socialist commie way. You just will change words. Yes,

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it is. People are like, we're tired of hearing about

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commies. You know what? We are too. Yeah. But this

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is what is dominating the news. This is... AOC, since

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we're on the socialist, let's run through the socialist clips.

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Let's do that. Yeah. And I have a local city

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councilman that has this saying, woke one was crazy. Woke

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one was crazy. You were woke one, AOC. And what

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part was crazy then? Well, she was pretty much the,

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on the forefront of, uh, the original woke push. Yeah,

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crazy. One was crazy. And I think that what's important

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is. And the guy she's talking to on ABC says

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that's true. Did you hear ABC when this was all

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going on saying all these things AOC and her like

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are saying are they're crazy. So why is he agreeing

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with her now? Because again. They really don't know what's

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going on. They are just bobbing their heads. Sure. Going

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along. I mean, if this guy was sharp, he would

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have said, well, was your prediction that we'd all be

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dead in eight years from climate change? Was that part

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of woke one or is that still stand AOC? Is

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the world ending? Yes, that's what she said. Waters rising.

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We have to go all green, even though we don't

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have enough electricity. We all should have cars that we

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won't be able to charge. Or, you know, when storms

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go through like they have in my home state of

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Illinois. Well, the power has been down for so many.

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Like every storm seems to be taking down. Yeah. About

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a quarter million customers, according to just the local Chicago

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area. That's not even outside of the Chicago metropolitan area.

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are out of power. It's like, but well, you don't

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want a gas car, do you? No. No. Just take

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our bikes. Yes. We have to assess what expanded it

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is. Was it? I mean, did the movement go too

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far with some of those positions? I mean, you briefly

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supported the idea of defunding the police. Well, I think

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that I also want to ask you, because maybe I

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missed something. When did AOC back away from defunding the

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police? He's like, you at one point... We're backing defunding

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the police. Did AOC ever come back out and say,

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no, no, I think the police need money? I don't

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remember seeing that, but I might have missed it. I

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challenge you to find that clip, Darren, and I'll pay

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you handsomely if you can. But if you can't, you

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owe me. Right. No, thank you. That's not a big

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back. All right. During this time, and especially during COVID,

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there was a huge opening of the Overton window. We

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were shut down. There were some of the highest unemployment

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rates that we have seen because. I mean, we were

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shut down. Why, AOC? Joey? No. Joey. Of those shutdowns.

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Yeah. And I think that. The doors were really open

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in trying to entertain any and every policy that was

461
00:26:56,723 --> 00:26:59,634
going to get us to a better place. And I

462
00:26:59,634 --> 00:27:03,853
actually think that the discussions that were had in that

463
00:27:03,853 --> 00:27:07,543
time were quite fruitful. I think that when we talk

464
00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:10,953
about crime today, it's fundamentally different than the way that

465
00:27:10,953 --> 00:27:14,483
we talked about crime in bringing crime down, right? And

466
00:27:14,483 --> 00:27:17,263
I think that we all share in the goals of

467
00:27:17,263 --> 00:27:21,163
having as low a crime rate as possible. And during

468
00:27:21,163 --> 00:27:25,403
lockdown, of course, rhetoric in that time is not rhetoric

469
00:27:25,403 --> 00:27:27,783
that we would use today. And I'm grateful that these

470
00:27:27,783 --> 00:27:31,623
candidates have the opportunity to present who they are to

471
00:27:31,623 --> 00:27:34,503
their electorate and what they're campaigning on in this moment.

472
00:27:34,843 --> 00:27:37,163
Yeah, we just saw one of them singing the blues

473
00:27:37,163 --> 00:27:40,583
clues or something. And so rhetoric for her is a

474
00:27:40,583 --> 00:27:42,783
synonym for lies. So is that what she means by

475
00:27:42,783 --> 00:27:47,503
that rhetoric? Right. I think so. And she's a DSC.

476
00:27:47,743 --> 00:27:50,143
I mean, she is not a regular Democrat. She has

477
00:27:50,143 --> 00:27:54,023
said that she is part of the Democrat socialist movement.

478
00:27:54,023 --> 00:27:59,423
And they want to, according to their co-chair, Mm hmm.

479
00:27:59,553 --> 00:28:04,503
Abolish police, abolish prisons, abolish the presidency, abolish the Supreme

480
00:28:04,503 --> 00:28:09,023
Court. So AOC will tell you, well, we all want

481
00:28:09,023 --> 00:28:13,103
crime to go down. We all have that same goal.

482
00:28:13,103 --> 00:28:17,093
And she will tell you that while also understanding that

483
00:28:17,093 --> 00:28:20,884
she believes and her group believes that Well, the way

484
00:28:20,884 --> 00:28:25,693
to do this is to never incarcerate anybody. And I

485
00:28:25,693 --> 00:28:30,353
think that's just insanity. Yeah, but maybe it holds water,

486
00:28:30,353 --> 00:28:33,844
Darren, because she did say, she said, it's a direct

487
00:28:33,844 --> 00:28:38,403
quote, crime is fundamentally different now. Right, than it was.

488
00:28:38,543 --> 00:28:42,353
But he didn't ask her how. Right. How would that

489
00:28:42,353 --> 00:28:47,303
be? AOC, but details don't matter. Yes. How, when, what,

490
00:28:47,423 --> 00:28:49,953
where, and why that's what a story should be. If

491
00:28:49,953 --> 00:28:53,313
you're a journalist, you're a journalist. And yeah, they don't

492
00:28:53,313 --> 00:28:56,114
ask. And you're like, well, why don't you ask? Why

493
00:28:56,114 --> 00:28:58,503
do you just keep bobbing your head and saying, oh,

494
00:28:58,503 --> 00:29:01,783
okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're there to promote. Not

495
00:29:01,783 --> 00:29:06,003
to question, really. Well, this is the issue. You've also

496
00:29:06,003 --> 00:29:08,333
got the clip here, and I think I have the

497
00:29:08,333 --> 00:29:11,463
close to the same one. Your clip number one kind

498
00:29:11,463 --> 00:29:15,443
of fits right in, I think, with the crime. Yeah.

499
00:29:15,073 --> 00:29:19,703
You're going to love Emily Gallagher. Yes. What is crime?

500
00:29:19,803 --> 00:29:22,443
That's a question, isn't it? Yeah, it is. I like

501
00:29:22,443 --> 00:29:25,393
that. Just like AOC. What is crime? Really? I mean,

502
00:29:25,393 --> 00:29:29,303
you know, you've got to have different levels. You do.

503
00:29:29,583 --> 00:29:32,143
Most of what we saw were crimes of poverty. People

504
00:29:32,143 --> 00:29:35,403
who were stealing things like toothpaste. People who were stealing

505
00:29:35,403 --> 00:29:39,083
things like, you know, soap. And that means if you're

506
00:29:39,083 --> 00:29:43,413
stealing those things, you need them. And we are choosing

507
00:29:43,413 --> 00:29:49,344
to protect... billion dollar companies like CVS and Walgreens over

508
00:29:49,344 --> 00:29:53,893
the people who are struggling to get by. So I

509
00:29:53,893 --> 00:29:57,743
would say that the true crime is that there is

510
00:29:57,743 --> 00:29:59,923
such incredible wealth

511
00:30:00,019 --> 00:30:04,059
disparity in this city that there are people who can

512
00:30:04,059 --> 00:30:07,819
be thrown in jail simply for having a biological need

513
00:30:07,819 --> 00:30:10,859
and so one of the things that i'm finding for

514
00:30:10,859 --> 00:30:14,089
it and i will ask is it really a biological

515
00:30:14,089 --> 00:30:17,109
need to have soap humans existed for a long time

516
00:30:17,109 --> 00:30:20,910
on this planet when soap was not a thing I

517
00:30:20,910 --> 00:30:23,930
think if we wanted to, we could check with both

518
00:30:23,930 --> 00:30:27,319
CVS and Walgreens and ask just how the soap pilfering,

519
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,279
how severe a problem that is. And I'll guarantee you

520
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,890
they'll say, not very. No, no. I'm sure they, you

521
00:30:33,890 --> 00:30:35,930
know, for people that will, they grab a bunch of

522
00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:39,490
things, usually things that they can resell. Yeah. Yeah. And

523
00:30:39,490 --> 00:30:42,339
a much lower price. It's the perfect way to run

524
00:30:42,339 --> 00:30:45,059
a store. If you can go steal everything from somebody

525
00:30:45,059 --> 00:30:47,940
else, then sell it out of the trunk of your

526
00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:52,980
car. Yeah. But yeah, well, why doesn't this New York

527
00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:58,119
assembly person, Emily Gallagher, at her office, wherever it is,

528
00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:00,990
I don't know which borough she's out of, but. Why

529
00:31:00,990 --> 00:31:05,119
aren't you giving away bars of soap? Good question. Or

530
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:07,480
opening up the bathrooms to the public. Come use ours.

531
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:11,099
Wash up here. Exactly. But you would think if it

532
00:31:11,099 --> 00:31:15,220
really is just things like soap that you could get

533
00:31:15,220 --> 00:31:18,079
one of these companies, it would be great. Sponsored by...

534
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:23,539
You know, Dove or Dial or whoever. Irish Spring. I

535
00:31:23,539 --> 00:31:26,710
get sent to the Irish. But she just lies because

536
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:29,950
there are countless homeless shelters and food banks and so

537
00:31:29,950 --> 00:31:34,759
forth that are giving that stuff away right now. Okay.

538
00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:38,640
So she's just lying. Well, the... CVS is in the

539
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,900
Walgreens that have left these areas have been pretty clear

540
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:47,039
about the amount of money they are losing to theft.

541
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,730
And it's not a small amount. And it is certainly

542
00:31:49,730 --> 00:31:53,650
not just soap and toothpaste. No, but, you know, you

543
00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:58,099
expect these companies when she says we're protecting these companies.

544
00:31:59,099 --> 00:32:03,410
You mean we are enforcing the laws that people don't

545
00:32:03,410 --> 00:32:07,019
steal? Or do you mean that we're not forcing them

546
00:32:07,019 --> 00:32:12,940
at gunpoint to remain open in areas where they cannot

547
00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:19,099
make a profit due to the constant. shoplifting armed robberies.

548
00:32:19,180 --> 00:32:22,450
And there have been multiple stories of these things, multiple

549
00:32:22,450 --> 00:32:28,099
stores having these problems. Sure. And the communities then go,

550
00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:30,799
well, what do you mean that's racist that you're leaving?

551
00:32:30,940 --> 00:32:34,059
Well, it's like, no, the one, the employees in the

552
00:32:34,059 --> 00:32:37,569
store are in danger. Yeah. because of the amount of

553
00:32:37,569 --> 00:32:41,039
crime in your area and they're being robbed so much

554
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,240
There was one, I think it was in New York,

555
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,220
one of these auto zone or one of these other

556
00:32:47,220 --> 00:32:51,069
auto parts stores that was like completely looted twice within

557
00:32:51,069 --> 00:32:54,869
a 24 hour period. That's by hungry people. You should

558
00:32:54,869 --> 00:32:58,769
know because everybody drinks motor oil. Everyone. Right. They're just,

559
00:32:58,769 --> 00:33:01,750
that's a thing of necessity. You can't do anything about

560
00:33:01,750 --> 00:33:05,029
it. It's like. If your whole store, if you haven't

561
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:09,349
seen the videos, you're not looking at all. When you

562
00:33:09,349 --> 00:33:14,720
see these things happen where a crowd of 20 to

563
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,400
50, maybe more people all go in at the same

564
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,860
time and just take whatever they want and run out.

565
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,920
Mm hmm. The store is fairly empty by the time

566
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,059
that is done. It's not somebody going in and grabbing

567
00:33:29,059 --> 00:33:31,610
a loaf of bread or a quarter motor oil or

568
00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:36,420
whatever. It's taking everything that they can. And you expect

569
00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:42,329
the stores to stay open. How? And so one of

570
00:33:42,329 --> 00:33:44,759
the things that I'm fighting for at the state level

571
00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:46,960
is to make sure we pass things like treatment, not

572
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,630
jail, and that we hold the line. Oh, there you

573
00:33:49,630 --> 00:33:52,970
go. Treatment, not jail. Treatment, not jail. Can't put them

574
00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:56,059
in, can't incarcerate them. No, we're going to treat them.

575
00:33:56,059 --> 00:33:59,069
Yeah. Like, oh, that's going to take care of it.

576
00:33:59,069 --> 00:34:01,869
It's like, oh, we're not going to send cops. Now

577
00:34:01,869 --> 00:34:06,289
we're going to send social workers and shrinks. Exactly. They're

578
00:34:06,289 --> 00:34:08,329
going to take care of everything until they start getting

579
00:34:08,329 --> 00:34:12,519
shot at. Then they run. On the incredible criminal justice

580
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:15,849
reforms that we have done over the last 10 and

581
00:34:15,849 --> 00:34:20,440
20 years that are constantly being threatened by right wing

582
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,110
media who are looking to fear monger about people who

583
00:34:24,110 --> 00:34:28,900
are actually just in absolute dire straits. Yeah, it's fear-mongering.

584
00:34:29,019 --> 00:34:33,050
Reporting on crimes is fear-mongering. Totally. Yes. Just take that

585
00:34:33,050 --> 00:34:39,179
beating and shut up. Change the wording. Change the language.

586
00:34:40,210 --> 00:34:43,119
No, you're fear mongering. You can't tell that people looted

587
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:47,340
this store and, you know, physically assaulted the cashiers and

588
00:34:47,340 --> 00:34:51,360
bloodied them. No, no, that's that's fear mongering, telling people

589
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,739
the truth of what's going on. This concept of having

590
00:34:55,739 --> 00:35:02,070
no punishment for crimes. It makes zero sense when you

591
00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:04,909
understand that there are some human beings who are just

592
00:35:04,909 --> 00:35:07,239
going to commit crimes. You're not going to stop them.

593
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,619
Yeah. There's nothing you can do. I don't know what

594
00:35:10,619 --> 00:35:13,260
it is in their DNA, but you aren't going to

595
00:35:13,260 --> 00:35:16,860
stop them. And when you go, well, the worst thing

596
00:35:16,860 --> 00:35:20,820
that you could possibly do. And you and I discussed

597
00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:25,039
this a few years ago in Chirac here when the

598
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:30,869
question of why carjackings were going through the roof and

599
00:35:30,869 --> 00:35:34,960
there was an assemblyman here in Chicago. who put out

600
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,730
a statement like this is all because of these violent

601
00:35:38,730 --> 00:35:43,000
video games like grand theft auto yes yes i recall

602
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,019
that and i'm like no no it's not it's because

603
00:35:46,019 --> 00:35:50,920
uh preckwinkle periwinkle whatever what's their name preckwinkle i think

604
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,639
that uh they changed the law that if you were

605
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:57,590
under the age of 18 you You were not going

606
00:35:57,590 --> 00:36:02,199
to be tried as an adult for carjacking. And they

607
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:07,019
put that out there. And then what happened? Car jackings

608
00:36:07,019 --> 00:36:09,460
went way up by people under the age of 18.

609
00:36:10,260 --> 00:36:14,440
And they were surprised. It's like taking away the punishment

610
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,199
of, had an effect and they were like amazed that

611
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:22,760
taking away the punishment was having that kind of an

612
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,900
effect it's like this is not something that you need

613
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:28,380
to go to school for this is not something you

614
00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:32,239
need a psychological degree for this is nothing you need

615
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,210
except common sense that if people feel like they can

616
00:36:36,210 --> 00:36:42,039
get away from with bad behavior and have no consequences

617
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:46,519
they are much more likely to do so but what

618
00:36:46,519 --> 00:36:49,610
they would answer you with darren is those those teenage

619
00:36:49,610 --> 00:36:53,800
carjackers were stealing those cars because they were hungry they

620
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,900
had they had a necessity they needed some wheels baby

621
00:36:57,110 --> 00:36:59,000
Absolutely. Got to get some wheels so I can drive

622
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,210
it through the front of a supermarket and clean that

623
00:37:02,210 --> 00:37:05,250
out. Go someplace else. Right. They're like, how dare you

624
00:37:05,250 --> 00:37:07,429
have a car when this poor kid here doesn't have

625
00:37:07,429 --> 00:37:10,860
one? Exactly. You should let them use your car, right?

626
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,789
Yes. I mean, speaking of Chirac, this is our ex-Mayor

627
00:37:14,789 --> 00:37:20,179
Rahm Emanuel, who I think... has some aspirations to throw

628
00:37:20,179 --> 00:37:22,679
his hat in the ring to be the democratic presidential

629
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:25,630
nominee. Oh yeah. I'd love to see him against a

630
00:37:25,630 --> 00:37:28,139
new scum captain hair gel. That'd be a funny battle.

631
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:31,199
Yeah, it would. And at least a Rahm Emanuel though.

632
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:34,389
Um, You know, if this is that kind of a

633
00:37:34,389 --> 00:37:38,940
matchup, Emmanuel, according to what I'm about to play, is

634
00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:43,590
positioning himself as more of the moderate, which I don't

635
00:37:43,590 --> 00:37:47,460
know if that's going along with how he's always governed.

636
00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:50,440
But. I mean, if you're going up against the new

637
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,519
scum, then you have to take a step to the

638
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:56,559
center. I think B, I want to be very clear.

639
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,090
If you control the border. You send a signal that

640
00:38:01,090 --> 00:38:04,320
people who break the law don't get rewarded. And I'm

641
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,329
so angry at my party, not only losing control of

642
00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:11,619
the border, but in the 2020 debate, raising your hand

643
00:38:11,619 --> 00:38:13,789
and saying, I'm going to give health care to people

644
00:38:13,789 --> 00:38:19,420
that cross illegally. Forget the immigration policy, the value system.

645
00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:25,429
You have American families suffocating under healthcare costs Not everybody

646
00:38:25,429 --> 00:38:29,599
universally covered, but we're significantly well on our way there.

647
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:32,400
And you're talking about free health care to having crossed

648
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,119
the border illegally? At every level that was foolish by

649
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:41,529
the party. Yeah, let me let me play the part

650
00:38:41,529 --> 00:38:45,619
of your typical journalist. What do you make of that,

651
00:38:45,619 --> 00:38:49,449
Larry? Well, what I make is he used an interesting

652
00:38:49,449 --> 00:38:53,670
phrase when he said people across the border illegally are

653
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:57,840
not going to be rewarded. Well, that's pretty goddamn weak,

654
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:03,550
Rom. The correct response to that question is they're going

655
00:39:03,550 --> 00:39:07,130
to be deported. And were prosecuted because they've committed a

656
00:39:07,130 --> 00:39:09,110
crime, but saying they're not going to be rewarded, that

657
00:39:09,110 --> 00:39:11,840
kind of puts it in a different light, doesn't it?

658
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,860
I think it does. A little bit. And all these

659
00:39:14,860 --> 00:39:17,610
guys, this is the standard play that they all do,

660
00:39:17,610 --> 00:39:20,920
whether it's Joey, I'm a moderate, I'm a moderate, until

661
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,220
they get into office, then that goes out the window.

662
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,820
It's easy to claim you're a minor. Yeah, of course.

663
00:39:28,179 --> 00:39:30,199
But this is how you get elected. And that's usually

664
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:33,820
the way it is. I'm still I don't understand where

665
00:39:33,820 --> 00:39:37,849
are the where are the crossovers? Where are the people

666
00:39:37,849 --> 00:39:40,409
that are willing to put in the time? You're a

667
00:39:40,409 --> 00:39:43,739
tried and true conservative and you just pretend to be

668
00:39:43,739 --> 00:39:46,880
a liberal. And you run in New York or Detroit

669
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,960
or wherever it is. You get elected and then go,

670
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,239
surprise! Yeah, where are those guys? That's a great question.

671
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:54,610
See, this is where we need Minerva or Sybil or

672
00:39:54,610 --> 00:39:57,429
whatever that chick. We need that girl. I can't believe

673
00:39:57,429 --> 00:39:59,820
it hasn't happened. That is the...

674
00:40:00,131 --> 00:40:02,811
you know, the Manchurian candidate kind of a concept, like

675
00:40:02,811 --> 00:40:06,631
sell something and get to where you need to be.

676
00:40:06,631 --> 00:40:08,461
And then just be like, well, I'm not going to

677
00:40:08,461 --> 00:40:11,831
really vote the way you think I am. Hmm. And

678
00:40:11,831 --> 00:40:14,011
just a quick clip here, just to show that we

679
00:40:14,011 --> 00:40:16,541
do cover every now and then things that happen outside

680
00:40:16,541 --> 00:40:22,051
of the United States. These are our buddies from Grimerica.

681
00:40:22,511 --> 00:40:27,501
Great show. Yes. Talking about what I'm guessing from what

682
00:40:27,501 --> 00:40:32,251
I understood, from what I've heard, a new Canadian law.

683
00:40:32,441 --> 00:40:37,231
About hate speech. Interviews that are motivated by bias against

684
00:40:37,231 --> 00:40:40,671
victims, blah, blah, blah, which are not a criminal offense.

685
00:40:42,161 --> 00:40:50,971
For example, disrespectful, disrespectful, disrespectful. It's pretty subjective. Disrespectful, discriminatory,

686
00:40:50,971 --> 00:40:57,411
or hostile speech. Wow. I hate. I know. Disrespectful. Wow.

687
00:40:57,411 --> 00:41:00,011
Who gets to decide? Well, we know who gets to

688
00:41:00,011 --> 00:41:03,121
decide. Whoever is in charge of the government at that

689
00:41:03,121 --> 00:41:07,101
time. I think just the normal RCMP climbs down off

690
00:41:07,101 --> 00:41:10,041
of his Palomino and says, that wasn't very respectful. You're

691
00:41:10,041 --> 00:41:13,531
going to jail. To who? But it gets better. A

692
00:41:13,531 --> 00:41:15,821
hate bias motivated incident may be determined to be a

693
00:41:15,821 --> 00:41:20,631
hate bias motivated crime upon further investigation. Yeah, we can

694
00:41:20,631 --> 00:41:25,831
look for your hate bias. Wow. Game. Wow. By Hasbro.

695
00:41:27,631 --> 00:41:29,951
There's a little spinner. There's a spinner arrow there on

696
00:41:29,951 --> 00:41:32,151
that game. I hope. Yes. Well, there should be it

697
00:41:32,151 --> 00:41:35,051
at the very least. Yes. Play. It's a party game.

698
00:41:35,651 --> 00:41:39,731
Yeah. Incident example. An individual creates a social media post

699
00:41:39,731 --> 00:41:45,541
promoting the boycott of companies that support the The 2SLGBTQI

700
00:41:45,541 --> 00:41:53,441
plus community. Whoa. Yeah. So boycotting, you know, an LGBTQ

701
00:41:53,441 --> 00:42:01,511
plus community event or organization, just boycotting them. Is now

702
00:42:01,511 --> 00:42:06,831
going to be a crime in Canada? Congratulations, Canadians. Yeah,

703
00:42:06,831 --> 00:42:10,451
well, they could shrink the penal code very simply by

704
00:42:10,451 --> 00:42:12,971
just saying, wrong think will be prosecuted, because that's what

705
00:42:12,971 --> 00:42:17,861
they're talking about. It's very scary. Very. I'd be a

706
00:42:17,861 --> 00:42:22,121
bias crime. Wow. But it's okay the other way, though.

707
00:42:22,121 --> 00:42:25,081
This is the crazy, infuriating thing. I feel like we're

708
00:42:25,081 --> 00:42:28,321
living in a dream. But they can be completely hateful

709
00:42:28,321 --> 00:42:34,211
to Pierre, Polyev, all the conservatives, anything normal. They can

710
00:42:34,211 --> 00:42:38,501
be super hateful and biased against that, but that's going

711
00:42:38,501 --> 00:42:41,981
to be okay. So it's hate one way. One way

712
00:42:41,981 --> 00:42:48,481
hate. Yeah. What is... When you're putting this in to

713
00:42:48,481 --> 00:42:52,651
the legal code, which is, well, it's the hate bias

714
00:42:52,651 --> 00:42:55,321
to do this to an LGBTQ, but it's not to

715
00:42:55,321 --> 00:42:59,501
do the same thing to a straight organization, straight person,

716
00:42:59,501 --> 00:43:04,211
whatever. It's like, well, that's not... That's not an honorable

717
00:43:04,211 --> 00:43:08,821
thing. Well, no. And, you know, in the United States,

718
00:43:08,821 --> 00:43:13,351
the first time any government agency proclaimed anybody a protected

719
00:43:13,351 --> 00:43:17,391
class, that was just a basically a step upwards in

720
00:43:17,391 --> 00:43:20,721
racism. Because if you're protected and the other class isn't,

721
00:43:20,721 --> 00:43:23,561
well, they're kind of below you, aren't they? Yes, they

722
00:43:23,561 --> 00:43:29,761
are. And that is the... The overall viewpoint that people

723
00:43:29,761 --> 00:43:33,411
are bringing. I know this is a little out of

724
00:43:33,411 --> 00:43:37,411
left field, but this is in honor of JCD, who

725
00:43:37,411 --> 00:43:41,281
I was getting kind of sad. We haven't had any

726
00:43:41,281 --> 00:43:44,691
whatever girls on the show. And this kind of goes

727
00:43:44,691 --> 00:43:48,111
in with that. It's what, what, what girls, what, whatever

728
00:43:48,111 --> 00:43:52,351
girls, there's a, whatever podcast. Okay. Which do. And then

729
00:43:52,351 --> 00:43:54,611
there's a bunch of women that are on there who,

730
00:43:54,611 --> 00:43:58,051
uh, you know, are like only fans, models, things like

731
00:43:58,051 --> 00:44:02,271
that. And this is a, uh, two parter with the

732
00:44:02,271 --> 00:44:05,351
same woman, uh, who is a young black woman, and

733
00:44:05,351 --> 00:44:09,551
they're discussing what is and isn't racist, which goes right

734
00:44:09,551 --> 00:44:13,431
along with what the Grimerica boys were just saying. As

735
00:44:13,431 --> 00:44:16,231
a black person, even if I was racist towards a

736
00:44:16,231 --> 00:44:18,591
white person, it doesn't have the same effect as if

737
00:44:18,591 --> 00:44:21,451
a white person were racist towards me. That's what I

738
00:44:21,451 --> 00:44:24,591
meant. The jail system, more black people go to jail

739
00:44:24,591 --> 00:44:27,251
than white people, you know. But let me ask you

740
00:44:27,251 --> 00:44:30,171
this. A black person walks up to a white person,

741
00:44:30,171 --> 00:44:32,941
not aggravated, just punches them in the face because that

742
00:44:32,941 --> 00:44:35,261
person is white. Is that racism? Yes. I don't think

743
00:44:35,261 --> 00:44:39,311
it's racism. What? Wow. Maybe prejudice. I've heard a black.

744
00:44:39,511 --> 00:44:43,031
Right. Maybe it's prejudice. If you see a white person

745
00:44:43,031 --> 00:44:46,691
and you just hit them with a brick, I mean,

746
00:44:46,691 --> 00:44:49,691
that's not really racist. That's just having prejudice. You see

747
00:44:49,691 --> 00:44:53,471
the difference? No. I don't either. I don't either. Black

748
00:44:53,471 --> 00:44:56,331
man come up to me on a train. He spit

749
00:44:56,331 --> 00:44:59,561
in my face and he called me white. That I

750
00:44:59,561 --> 00:45:05,061
should myself. I think that's racist. Wait, that happened? Yes,

751
00:45:05,061 --> 00:45:08,001
that actually happened in New York. Bro, she could have

752
00:45:08,001 --> 00:45:12,811
been Irina Zeru. Oh, who's Ukrainian. Who's Ukrainian, right? Yes.

753
00:45:13,241 --> 00:45:15,611
In her instance, was that an act of racism that

754
00:45:15,611 --> 00:45:18,561
she experienced? If you want to call that racism, then

755
00:45:18,561 --> 00:45:22,331
sure. I just don't. Not what I call it. I

756
00:45:22,331 --> 00:45:25,091
probably call it racism. Do you call it racism? And

757
00:45:25,091 --> 00:45:30,251
he specifically said something about your. Yes. Maybe prejudice. What?

758
00:45:30,491 --> 00:45:35,751
So again. This young black female sitting right across next

759
00:45:35,751 --> 00:45:39,581
to whatever she was with a young white female Ukrainian

760
00:45:39,581 --> 00:45:41,891
girl who had somebody come up on a train or

761
00:45:41,891 --> 00:45:44,251
something and spit in her face and call her a

762
00:45:44,251 --> 00:45:48,171
white bitch. Is that racist? Well, no, I don't. I

763
00:45:48,171 --> 00:45:53,061
don't really think that's racist. How? Hmm. How? Well, it's

764
00:45:53,061 --> 00:45:56,391
because only white racism matters, of course. Can black people

765
00:45:56,391 --> 00:46:00,141
be racist towards other minority groups? No. So can a

766
00:46:00,141 --> 00:46:03,431
black person be racist towards an Asian person? Why don't

767
00:46:03,431 --> 00:46:05,951
you want to say that? You can just admit it.

768
00:46:06,011 --> 00:46:10,511
No, because can black people be racist towards Asians? Maybe.

769
00:46:10,511 --> 00:46:15,571
Maybe. Wait, can black people be racist towards Latinos? Why

770
00:46:15,571 --> 00:46:19,371
minority on minority? It just doesn't mean anything. I don't

771
00:46:19,371 --> 00:46:22,001
know. I'd explain it. It's just OK. I'm with the

772
00:46:22,001 --> 00:46:26,151
woman that said what minority on minority. It doesn't mean

773
00:46:26,151 --> 00:46:32,471
anything. Hmm. I'm trying to wrap my brain around that,

774
00:46:33,271 --> 00:46:39,151
that it only matters. If it is a white person

775
00:46:39,151 --> 00:46:45,271
against any other minority, that's the only racism that this

776
00:46:45,271 --> 00:46:50,221
woman believes there is. Anybody that is not white, that

777
00:46:50,221 --> 00:46:58,211
is actively hostile, actively assaulting, actively hating people, another person

778
00:46:58,211 --> 00:47:01,791
just because of the color of their skin because of

779
00:47:01,791 --> 00:47:07,571
their ethnicity well that's not racism and it's not It's

780
00:47:07,571 --> 00:47:11,531
very... This is so... And I understand why KCD brought

781
00:47:11,531 --> 00:47:13,951
a lot of these. One, they bring a little levity,

782
00:47:14,151 --> 00:47:17,221
but they also scare the hell out of you when

783
00:47:17,221 --> 00:47:21,251
you realize these women are not alone in the way

784
00:47:21,251 --> 00:47:24,831
they think. No. No. I don't know. What do you

785
00:47:24,831 --> 00:47:28,011
mean by it doesn't mean anything? Like... So it's only

786
00:47:28,011 --> 00:47:30,771
bad when white people do something. Because that's the main

787
00:47:30,771 --> 00:47:33,951
core, though. First of all, I am not racist. It

788
00:47:33,951 --> 00:47:36,921
is a little bit racist to say that white people

789
00:47:36,921 --> 00:47:39,871
or other minorities can't face racism from black people. I'm

790
00:47:39,871 --> 00:47:42,001
just saying that it doesn't have the same effect. And

791
00:47:42,001 --> 00:47:43,391
if it doesn't have the same effect, it kind of

792
00:47:43,391 --> 00:47:47,131
just doesn't matter. Whoa, that's crazy. That's crazy. Bro, she's

793
00:47:47,131 --> 00:47:51,751
actually racist. No, she's racist. Yes. Hmm. Wow. Yeah, I

794
00:47:51,751 --> 00:47:57,011
mean, okay. Wow. Again, the Katerina Kerrisko, I'm bad with

795
00:47:57,011 --> 00:48:01,171
the names, but the woman. Saratsuzka from Charlotte. Charlotte, yes.

796
00:48:01,831 --> 00:48:05,981
She was killed dead because of the color of her

797
00:48:05,981 --> 00:48:09,291
skin. What do you mean it doesn't have the same

798
00:48:09,291 --> 00:48:12,371
color? effect if it goes the other way that's just

799
00:48:12,371 --> 00:48:16,631
insanity that's just well maybe she missed that story it's

800
00:48:16,631 --> 00:48:21,071
indoctrination 101 she probably watches blues clues with el say

801
00:48:23,791 --> 00:48:26,141
Right? I don't know. Get that mail-in ballot. That's all

802
00:48:26,141 --> 00:48:28,371
that matters. How many ballots did he have, though? It

803
00:48:28,371 --> 00:48:30,791
should have been like a thousand mail-in ballots. Like, fill

804
00:48:30,791 --> 00:48:33,981
it out for your friends. Just one. He's not that

805
00:48:33,981 --> 00:48:36,651
special. If he was special like me in L.A., it's

806
00:48:36,651 --> 00:48:39,671
gotten eight. I only needed two. And if you would

807
00:48:39,671 --> 00:48:43,371
have sent those in with the wrong votes, they would

808
00:48:43,371 --> 00:48:46,511
have come for you. Don't worry. Definitely. Now, if you

809
00:48:46,511 --> 00:48:48,851
would have put those all and voted Democrat, then they

810
00:48:48,851 --> 00:48:52,911
might have just... Probably not. Yeah. They didn't notice that.

811
00:48:52,991 --> 00:48:56,161
It was just a rounding error. Yeah. Where do you

812
00:48:56,161 --> 00:48:59,741
want to go next? Well, well, well, since we were

813
00:48:59,741 --> 00:49:05,311
going briefly offshore or over the border, there's a couple

814
00:49:05,311 --> 00:49:09,921
of funny stories here from the UK about apparently they've

815
00:49:09,921 --> 00:49:15,911
been suffering through some wildfires. Darren. Interesting. Like Canada and

816
00:49:15,911 --> 00:49:19,431
the United States. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I have

817
00:49:19,431 --> 00:49:21,841
some experience of those having lived in L.A. as long

818
00:49:21,841 --> 00:49:24,201
as I did. And usually when they used to begin,

819
00:49:24,201 --> 00:49:26,951
when I first got to L.A., there's always been fires

820
00:49:26,951 --> 00:49:29,911
in Los Angeles, even before there were people there. That's

821
00:49:29,911 --> 00:49:33,521
just very dry place. but they would call it what

822
00:49:33,521 --> 00:49:36,641
it was back in the day, and most of them

823
00:49:36,641 --> 00:49:40,911
were arson, including the most famous one of all now,

824
00:49:40,991 --> 00:49:44,961
which, of course, is the Pacific Palisades conflagration, which was

825
00:49:44,961 --> 00:49:49,241
set by some creep. It didn't just happen. And even

826
00:49:49,241 --> 00:49:53,011
Karen Bass... who was partying in Ghana as the city

827
00:49:53,011 --> 00:49:57,451
burned, she doesn't want to mention that because that sort

828
00:49:57,451 --> 00:49:59,991
of kind of undercuts the

829
00:50:00,053 --> 00:50:04,003
I'm a change position, doesn't it? Yes, it does. Yes.

830
00:50:04,283 --> 00:50:08,013
I mean, no agenda pointed out they had hands on

831
00:50:08,013 --> 00:50:12,203
a book from the 1800s, which pointed out the amount

832
00:50:12,203 --> 00:50:15,593
of wildfires going on even then. Long before we had

833
00:50:15,593 --> 00:50:19,663
electric lines and cell towers and all. Yes. Yes. Absolutely.

834
00:50:20,563 --> 00:50:22,523
So they've been raging in the UK, and I have

835
00:50:22,523 --> 00:50:25,663
two clips. And one is, it's like the yin and

836
00:50:25,663 --> 00:50:28,773
the yang. In the political mindset. And the first one

837
00:50:28,773 --> 00:50:32,813
is some very happy, giggly newsreader chick talking about she

838
00:50:32,813 --> 00:50:37,473
got in the course of one evening, three emergency, emergency

839
00:50:37,473 --> 00:50:42,603
cell phone warnings from the British government, as she calls

840
00:50:42,603 --> 00:50:47,503
them, Annie Burnham. and they woke her up because she

841
00:50:47,503 --> 00:50:48,973
had to get up and do the show the next

842
00:50:48,973 --> 00:50:51,073
day. She wasn't happy about that, but she's really not

843
00:50:51,073 --> 00:50:53,613
that upset. Just listen to what she says. Anyway, I

844
00:50:53,613 --> 00:50:57,813
got an alert from Andy Burnham and the government three

845
00:50:57,813 --> 00:51:02,133
times, just to be clear, the 7 o'clock-ish one. Then

846
00:51:02,133 --> 00:51:05,943
I got it again at about... 10 and then again

847
00:51:05,943 --> 00:51:07,863
at 10 to 11 and I'd gone to bed early

848
00:51:07,863 --> 00:51:10,283
because I need to get up and I just am

849
00:51:10,283 --> 00:51:12,053
I not doing it right is there a way of

850
00:51:12,053 --> 00:51:14,843
dismissing it you're viewing it or that's what I thought

851
00:51:14,843 --> 00:51:16,783
they know I just went oh wildfires and put it

852
00:51:16,783 --> 00:51:20,183
down anyway. The whole thing about this is Andy Burnham

853
00:51:20,183 --> 00:51:22,183
is trying to do something. I get that. I get

854
00:51:22,183 --> 00:51:25,043
that. He has actually banned his bezel of barbecues, as

855
00:51:25,043 --> 00:51:27,583
we know. Stop. He's appointed a prime minister, and he's

856
00:51:27,583 --> 00:51:31,063
pledged to buy. Okay. Did you hear what he's done,

857
00:51:31,063 --> 00:51:36,383
what Burnham's done? He's banned, banned barbecues. Well, it sounds

858
00:51:36,383 --> 00:51:40,393
like California. Yeah. Yeah, because when in doubt, just ban

859
00:51:40,393 --> 00:51:43,563
something. That's always the fix. Ban it. Ban anything. Just

860
00:51:43,563 --> 00:51:47,183
ban something. Yeah, California, my buddy, when he lived in,

861
00:51:47,183 --> 00:51:49,243
I think he's still in the Bay Area. Oh, no,

862
00:51:49,243 --> 00:51:51,533
you can't have a fire, but you can't put that

863
00:51:51,533 --> 00:51:53,673
in your fire. It doesn't matter how cold it is

864
00:51:53,673 --> 00:51:57,173
outside. You can't have you putting that horrible smoke into

865
00:51:57,173 --> 00:52:00,593
the air, which then, of course, Went down the line

866
00:52:00,593 --> 00:52:04,943
as well, where the stories with New York and like,

867
00:52:04,943 --> 00:52:07,783
oh, pizza ovens. No, no, we can't have you doing

868
00:52:07,783 --> 00:52:12,363
that. It's all sorts of we will control you. Yeah.

869
00:52:12,863 --> 00:52:15,153
Yeah. And so, you know, at the top of her

870
00:52:15,153 --> 00:52:18,843
blathering, she said, you know, am I doing something wrong?

871
00:52:19,083 --> 00:52:22,403
Yes, you are. You have the wrong attitude, lady. Okay.

872
00:52:22,503 --> 00:52:24,773
You should be pissed at Burnham. So I think there's

873
00:52:24,773 --> 00:52:27,773
a little more in this clip. Yes. Yeah. And then

874
00:52:27,773 --> 00:52:30,783
we can get to number five, the truth about wildfires.

875
00:52:31,083 --> 00:52:34,203
Actually, man dispensable barbecues, as we know. He's appointed a

876
00:52:34,203 --> 00:52:37,943
fire minister, and he's pledged to buy European-style fighting aircraft.

877
00:52:38,183 --> 00:52:41,193
That's all fine. He should be doing something. How much

878
00:52:41,193 --> 00:52:45,893
is he spending on... aircraft to fight fighters. Right. Doesn't

879
00:52:45,893 --> 00:52:48,643
mention that. But it's all fine because he's doing stuff.

880
00:52:48,763 --> 00:52:52,983
He's banning stuff. We're buying planes. Because planes are cheap.

881
00:52:53,593 --> 00:52:56,613
Planes are very cheap, very cheap. So then from the

882
00:52:56,613 --> 00:53:00,743
same British station, I guess this is a later telecast,

883
00:53:00,743 --> 00:53:04,343
you get a very different and I think more realistic

884
00:53:04,343 --> 00:53:09,343
and truthful appraisal of the wildfire situation in England. I

885
00:53:09,343 --> 00:53:12,383
don't think anyone is saying that wildfires and fires in

886
00:53:12,383 --> 00:53:17,343
general aren't serious. I guess the question is, was the

887
00:53:17,343 --> 00:53:22,213
alert system the right tool by which to tell people

888
00:53:22,213 --> 00:53:27,083
about the danger? I think it undermines the importance of

889
00:53:27,083 --> 00:53:30,533
the emergency system. If you've got something like a war

890
00:53:30,533 --> 00:53:34,353
or an earthquake or, you know, some things that are

891
00:53:34,353 --> 00:53:38,153
just so existentially threatening that everybody needs to be told

892
00:53:38,153 --> 00:53:41,383
immediately at that level, that's a high state alert for

893
00:53:41,383 --> 00:53:45,823
everyone that's in emergency. Yeah. Whilst it is very serious

894
00:53:45,823 --> 00:53:48,943
that we've got wildfires, it runs the risk of actually

895
00:53:48,943 --> 00:53:52,703
undermining people taking it seriously. It's a bit like a

896
00:53:52,703 --> 00:53:55,143
nanny intervention. We want to be seen to be doing

897
00:53:55,143 --> 00:53:58,873
something. There are arsonists. The majority of fires started from

898
00:53:58,873 --> 00:54:01,943
other things that we know broken bottles and others. But

899
00:54:01,943 --> 00:54:04,503
why are we not having a discussion about what's happened

900
00:54:04,503 --> 00:54:07,393
with rewilding, about the pressures that have been put on

901
00:54:07,393 --> 00:54:11,363
farming, not to clear land, not to clear fallen wood,

902
00:54:11,363 --> 00:54:14,923
not to clear areas where peat and grass and where

903
00:54:14,923 --> 00:54:17,983
they've been prevented from allowing sheep to graze and others

904
00:54:17,983 --> 00:54:20,963
and deer. And that has created a situation where people

905
00:54:20,963 --> 00:54:24,073
want to use the term tinderbox, where things are much

906
00:54:24,073 --> 00:54:29,023
more susceptible to catching fry up. There you have it.

907
00:54:29,563 --> 00:54:34,483
This sounds exactly like the coverage Adam and John had

908
00:54:34,483 --> 00:54:38,863
on the American wildfire. Same exact things. They're stopping the

909
00:54:38,863 --> 00:54:43,203
clearing of brush. They're stopping all these things in the

910
00:54:43,203 --> 00:54:47,223
usually under the guise of. global warming and then the

911
00:54:47,223 --> 00:54:49,883
end result is the whole place burns down and then

912
00:54:49,883 --> 00:54:54,223
they want to blame yes yes And what this guy

913
00:54:54,223 --> 00:54:56,933
alluded to as well, and the first one, the woman

914
00:54:56,933 --> 00:54:59,983
didn't quite understand, was kind of a little phrase that

915
00:54:59,983 --> 00:55:01,983
I remember a guy telling me years ago when I

916
00:55:01,983 --> 00:55:04,583
was working for a big company. And there are a

917
00:55:04,583 --> 00:55:07,963
lot of people, anybody working for corporate America knows this.

918
00:55:08,163 --> 00:55:10,353
There's so many people out there who are always kind

919
00:55:10,353 --> 00:55:12,703
of pretending to be busy, busy, busy. Oh, I'm so

920
00:55:12,703 --> 00:55:15,003
busy. I'm doing this, blah, blah, blah, blah. And this

921
00:55:15,003 --> 00:55:19,203
guy said, you know... You should never confuse activity with

922
00:55:19,203 --> 00:55:24,043
achievement. Yeah. You know, and all these bureaucrats and clowns,

923
00:55:24,043 --> 00:55:26,613
they just claim, I'm so busy. I'm doing this. I'm

924
00:55:26,613 --> 00:55:30,303
banning barbecues. I'm buying planes. So I'm really busy. But

925
00:55:30,303 --> 00:55:32,683
you're not getting the job done, are you? But that's

926
00:55:32,683 --> 00:55:35,783
how it works. Well, so they can list that and

927
00:55:35,783 --> 00:55:39,103
then the... The mainstream media will be, well, they're really

928
00:55:39,103 --> 00:55:42,013
trying hard. They're trying to. Yes. Yes. Look how busy

929
00:55:42,013 --> 00:55:44,793
they are. Do X, Y, and Z while they ignore

930
00:55:44,793 --> 00:55:48,193
again, the who, why, what, when, and how, who, why,

931
00:55:48,193 --> 00:55:52,253
what, where, and how, which would make the story. They

932
00:55:52,253 --> 00:55:56,823
don't want to really know how the. fires are starting

933
00:55:56,823 --> 00:55:59,603
no there are arsonists yeah believe that or not people

934
00:55:59,603 --> 00:56:03,173
are starting fires a lot of times intentionally a lot

935
00:56:03,173 --> 00:56:08,203
of times accidentally You know, it's like, but it's humans.

936
00:56:08,423 --> 00:56:14,163
And if you, uh, Do not properly treat the things

937
00:56:14,163 --> 00:56:20,263
which can then lead to a buildup. Like in California,

938
00:56:20,263 --> 00:56:22,253
a bunch of it was, well, we're not clearing the

939
00:56:22,253 --> 00:56:24,973
brush underneath the power lines. So when there is a

940
00:56:24,973 --> 00:56:28,153
problem where a power line comes down, well, of course,

941
00:56:28,153 --> 00:56:31,323
there's something to light. And then it lights a lot.

942
00:56:31,893 --> 00:56:35,383
Yeah. Fire. Yeah. In the meantime, leave the reservoirs empty

943
00:56:35,383 --> 00:56:37,123
because, you know, we'll just handle it with, I don't

944
00:56:37,123 --> 00:56:40,283
know, spray wax or something. Well, yeah. Is LA, I'm

945
00:56:40,283 --> 00:56:43,783
wondering, Jack, has LA been rebuilt yet now? I mean,

946
00:56:43,783 --> 00:56:45,283
I know they said this was all going to be

947
00:56:45,283 --> 00:56:49,523
really quick. And no, no, almost nothing has been rebuilt.

948
00:56:49,883 --> 00:56:55,993
Yeah. As was predicted. Yeah. Yes, Carolla did. He was

949
00:56:55,993 --> 00:57:00,423
podcasting, I should say, from a hotel room. The fire

950
00:57:00,423 --> 00:57:03,383
wasn't even out yet. And he said, I guarantee you,

951
00:57:03,403 --> 00:57:05,873
In a year and a half, nothing, nothing will have

952
00:57:05,873 --> 00:57:07,963
been rebuilt. It's all going to be hung up and

953
00:57:07,963 --> 00:57:11,013
permitting because they don't want this like this anymore. They

954
00:57:11,013 --> 00:57:14,233
want low-income housing in Malibu. And they're just going to

955
00:57:14,233 --> 00:57:17,473
wait the property owners out until they say, all right,

956
00:57:17,473 --> 00:57:19,593
I'll sell it at a loss. This is a battle

957
00:57:19,593 --> 00:57:23,703
I cannot win. And he's right. It's a crazy system.

958
00:57:24,403 --> 00:57:27,103
Yeah. How about the Trump plane swap? Was that a

959
00:57:27,103 --> 00:57:30,423
good one? Did you enjoy? I love that. You got

960
00:57:30,423 --> 00:57:32,483
something with this, don't you? Yeah, I've got a bunch.

961
00:57:32,483 --> 00:57:38,273
Because this was a very entertaining story. Yeah. The United

962
00:57:38,273 --> 00:57:41,703
States and the Iranian-backed Houthis carried out separate attacks on

963
00:57:41,703 --> 00:57:45,513
shipping vessels near the Strait of Hormuz. Before the war

964
00:57:45,513 --> 00:57:49,843
began, about 130 ships per day moved through that waterway.

965
00:57:50,303 --> 00:57:54,413
According to Reuters, only eight ships traversed the strait within

966
00:57:54,413 --> 00:57:58,393
the past week, marking a new low. Joining me now,

967
00:57:58,393 --> 00:58:01,853
CBS News contributor H.R. McMaster. He was one of for

968
00:58:01,853 --> 00:58:06,123
national security advisors to President Trump during his first administration.

969
00:58:06,123 --> 00:58:08,333
HR, we'll get to the Strait of Hormuz in a

970
00:58:08,333 --> 00:58:11,313
second, but I've got to ask you about the Air

971
00:58:11,313 --> 00:58:14,623
Force One misdirection story. You've flown on Air Force One

972
00:58:14,623 --> 00:58:17,973
many times, you have a keen understanding of national security

973
00:58:17,973 --> 00:58:20,363
threats flying in and out of sensitive areas of the

974
00:58:20,363 --> 00:58:23,653
world. How do you evaluate the evasive maneuvers the Secret

975
00:58:23,653 --> 00:58:27,283
Service ordered the president to take and those who flew

976
00:58:27,283 --> 00:58:30,213
with the president and those who were stuck on the

977
00:58:30,213 --> 00:58:35,393
decoy Air Force One? Yeah. Hey, Major. Well, you know,

978
00:58:35,393 --> 00:58:36,843
it seemed like the system worked to me in terms

979
00:58:36,843 --> 00:58:39,593
of protecting the president. You know, I mean, there was

980
00:58:39,593 --> 00:58:43,313
a clear connection between the Secret Service and the intelligence

981
00:58:43,313 --> 00:58:46,513
agencies that gave the president, I'm sure, the heads up

982
00:58:46,513 --> 00:58:49,753
or Secret Service the heads up. It's clear that the

983
00:58:49,753 --> 00:58:53,033
Iranians are trying to kill them. I mean, this isn't

984
00:58:53,033 --> 00:58:56,713
a secret that they've tried to get others to kill

985
00:58:56,713 --> 00:59:01,563
them in the past. They've released the RGC, released a

986
00:59:01,563 --> 00:59:05,283
video, a pattern of life video on the First Lady

987
00:59:05,283 --> 00:59:09,443
and the President's son, Barron. So... So I think that

988
00:59:09,443 --> 00:59:11,713
the system worked in this case in terms of the

989
00:59:11,713 --> 00:59:15,123
handoff. And I think we just have to remain vigilant

990
00:59:15,123 --> 00:59:19,973
because Iran does have a pretty extensive terrorist network, sleeper

991
00:59:19,973 --> 00:59:23,993
zone network, especially in Europe, where they've conducted many assassinations

992
00:59:23,993 --> 00:59:26,673
over the years, Major. So I think the concern was

993
00:59:26,673 --> 00:59:30,173
the location that he was in Europe. Yeah, and rightfully

994
00:59:30,173 --> 00:59:34,173
so. I mean, there's an active threat. Yeah. That's the

995
00:59:34,173 --> 00:59:40,123
major Garrett and... So, and that was a fairly straightforward

996
00:59:40,123 --> 00:59:44,253
process. But then you have MSNBC. Well, MSNOW. I just

997
00:59:44,253 --> 00:59:46,083
want to say MSNBC. You've got to get a shock

998
00:59:46,083 --> 00:59:50,163
collar on that one. One of the officials said another

999
00:59:50,163 --> 00:59:52,973
official called the reports of threats against Trump's life is

1000
00:59:52,973 --> 00:59:57,163
really derived, not U.S. generated and viewed as low confidence.

1001
00:59:57,683 --> 00:59:59,143
I wanted to talk to you about this because in

1002
00:59:59,143 --> 00:59:59,923
particular.

1003
01:00:00,019 --> 01:00:02,069
I mean, we're both quite familiar with the vernacular of

1004
01:00:02,069 --> 01:00:05,569
government. What do you make of that report? What do

1005
01:00:05,569 --> 01:00:07,609
you make of that, Larry? There you go. It's just

1006
01:00:07,609 --> 01:00:10,879
giving you the what do you make of that? And

1007
01:00:10,879 --> 01:00:15,579
this was very low, very low. Right. Because the president

1008
01:00:15,579 --> 01:00:19,769
is going to hop into a catering van or whatever

1009
01:00:19,769 --> 01:00:22,639
it was on a low level. chance of a threat.

1010
01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:26,559
And kind of what it means about this threat as

1011
01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:29,909
far as you can suss out. Well, it does seem

1012
01:00:29,909 --> 01:00:33,179
to be consistent with the view of the CIA with

1013
01:00:33,179 --> 01:00:37,279
respect to Israeli intelligence of late. You might remember there

1014
01:00:37,279 --> 01:00:40,819
was reporting that Mr. Ratcliffe was not convinced that the

1015
01:00:40,819 --> 01:00:44,759
Israeli intelligence was correct, that you could decapitate the Iranian

1016
01:00:44,759 --> 01:00:47,909
regime with a strike on Khamenei and cause regime change.

1017
01:00:47,909 --> 01:00:50,299
And he kind of called it, he kind of called

1018
01:00:50,299 --> 01:00:52,639
of BS there in the situation room. So this is,

1019
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:55,129
I think, of a piece of his natural skepticism and

1020
01:00:55,129 --> 01:00:58,419
the skepticism of the professional intelligence analysts at the CIA.

1021
01:00:58,659 --> 01:01:00,229
Obviously, you and I haven't seen that, so we're in

1022
01:01:00,229 --> 01:01:02,379
no position to judge it. But again, I don't begrudge

1023
01:01:02,379 --> 01:01:05,029
the secrets. Oh, no, but the MSNLB, they're always going

1024
01:01:05,029 --> 01:01:09,119
to judge. It doesn't matter if they've seen any documentation

1025
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:12,449
whatsoever. They're going to judge. That's their job. That's their

1026
01:01:12,449 --> 01:01:15,239
job. They're judges. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, you and I haven't

1027
01:01:15,239 --> 01:01:16,999
seen that, so we're in no position to judge it.

1028
01:01:16,999 --> 01:01:20,359
But again, I don't begrudge the Secret Service for being

1029
01:01:20,359 --> 01:01:24,369
overly cautious and not being willing to take a risk,

1030
01:01:24,369 --> 01:01:28,089
even if there wasn't unanimity about the veracity of the

1031
01:01:28,089 --> 01:01:31,979
intelligence. It's true. What's also true is a president and

1032
01:01:31,979 --> 01:01:34,579
his close advisors can go back to the Secret Service

1033
01:01:34,579 --> 01:01:36,379
and say, I understand the threat, but I need a

1034
01:01:36,379 --> 01:01:39,659
different plan. That's what President Clinton did. That's clearly not

1035
01:01:39,659 --> 01:01:42,599
what happened here. Let's talk about where we are in

1036
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:45,459
this war. And I want to go. Wait a minute,

1037
01:01:45,459 --> 01:01:49,819
Peppermint Patty. I think you're wrong about the Clinton. Want

1038
01:01:49,819 --> 01:01:51,849
to hear this one more time? Yeah, let's hear that

1039
01:01:51,849 --> 01:01:54,879
again. It's true. What's also true is a president and

1040
01:01:54,879 --> 01:01:57,479
his close advisors can go back to the Secret Service

1041
01:01:57,479 --> 01:01:59,279
and say, I understand the threat, but I need a

1042
01:01:59,279 --> 01:02:02,589
different plan. That's what President Clinton did. That's clearly not

1043
01:02:02,589 --> 01:02:05,499
what happened here. Let's talk about where we are in

1044
01:02:05,499 --> 01:02:07,719
this war. I don't think we need to hear any

1045
01:02:07,719 --> 01:02:11,129
more about the war. I want to go to... This

1046
01:02:11,129 --> 01:02:15,259
clip from PBS NewsHour. How unusual is it for the

1047
01:02:15,259 --> 01:02:18,719
Secret Service to turn Air Force One and its passengers

1048
01:02:18,719 --> 01:02:21,859
to include White House staff, the traveling press, into a

1049
01:02:21,859 --> 01:02:25,469
decoy? Yeah. As far as we know, the decoy fact

1050
01:02:25,469 --> 01:02:28,519
of that question, it has only happened once before. In

1051
01:02:28,519 --> 01:02:32,459
2000, President Bill Clinton landed in Islamabad, you see there,

1052
01:02:32,459 --> 01:02:36,089
in an unmarked plane after Air Force One had landed

1053
01:02:36,089 --> 01:02:39,649
and a body double who looked like Clinton got off

1054
01:02:39,649 --> 01:02:41,919
of Air Force One. Didn't I just hear Jen Psaki?

1055
01:02:42,019 --> 01:02:43,909
Oh, no, Clinton wouldn't do it. No, Clinton wouldn't do

1056
01:02:43,909 --> 01:02:46,159
it. it clinton wouldn't do it bullshit he wouldn't do

1057
01:02:46,159 --> 01:02:48,049
that yeah i missed that story when it happened and

1058
01:02:48,049 --> 01:02:49,939
that's pretty cool so he had one of those probably

1059
01:02:49,939 --> 01:02:51,469
one of those did he look like what is it

1060
01:02:51,469 --> 01:02:53,849
daddy long legs uh the joey clone that was was

1061
01:02:53,849 --> 01:02:56,849
i think it was something that was just fairly close

1062
01:02:56,849 --> 01:02:59,399
so that way yeah was he eating a cheeseburger as

1063
01:02:59,399 --> 01:03:02,339
he walked or something that's what sold it he had

1064
01:03:02,339 --> 01:03:04,279
a big mac in one hand and a large chocolate

1065
01:03:04,279 --> 01:03:07,649
shake in the other Okay. And probably three hookers following

1066
01:03:07,649 --> 01:03:12,939
him. Bullshit. Jeff, though, if you go beyond decoys to

1067
01:03:12,939 --> 01:03:16,479
include feints or secret trips like George W. Bush's to

1068
01:03:16,479 --> 01:03:20,899
Iraq, the Secret Service has taken steps like that before.

1069
01:03:21,199 --> 01:03:24,549
As for questions today of the vulnerability... Of those people

1070
01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:28,319
who did fly on Air Force One without President Trump,

1071
01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:31,439
Matranga said the bottom line is the Secret Service had

1072
01:03:31,439 --> 01:03:36,289
to make a tradeoff. I don't think that anybody intentionally

1073
01:03:36,289 --> 01:03:40,589
put, you know, the anchors or anyone else, the White

1074
01:03:40,589 --> 01:03:43,589
House press corps in harm's way. But that was a

1075
01:03:43,589 --> 01:03:46,389
risk that had to be weighed. And at the end

1076
01:03:46,389 --> 01:03:48,989
of the day, we have to look at continuity of

1077
01:03:48,989 --> 01:03:51,969
American government and. Quite frankly, I don't know how to

1078
01:03:51,969 --> 01:03:53,749
say this, but just to say it is that the

1079
01:03:53,749 --> 01:03:56,379
president of the United States is more important than every

1080
01:03:56,379 --> 01:03:59,329
single person on that plane. Oh, they're not going to

1081
01:03:59,329 --> 01:04:01,769
want to hear that. They don't want to hear that

1082
01:04:01,769 --> 01:04:04,039
at all. No, the press is going to be like,

1083
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:06,879
no, no, we're the most important one ever. Of course

1084
01:04:06,879 --> 01:04:10,009
they are. Now, this is how NPR covered it. The

1085
01:04:10,009 --> 01:04:13,559
reporting contradicts what the White House told the press traveling

1086
01:04:13,559 --> 01:04:16,349
with the president during a recent trip to Turkey. They

1087
01:04:16,349 --> 01:04:21,569
were contradicting. Yes. And as NPR's Tamara Keith reports, that

1088
01:04:21,569 --> 01:04:25,399
may have left reporters vulnerable. President Trump boarded Air Force

1089
01:04:25,399 --> 01:04:28,319
One as usual, but The Washington Post reports he was

1090
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:31,269
then smuggled off the plane in a catering truck and

1091
01:04:31,269 --> 01:04:34,889
flew on an entirely different aircraft. An entirely different aircraft,

1092
01:04:34,889 --> 01:04:38,129
not just a different aircraft. Entirely. Not just a fuselage,

1093
01:04:38,129 --> 01:04:41,439
the wings and everything. It could have been a partially

1094
01:04:41,439 --> 01:04:45,999
different aircraft. Yes. He went on a totally different aircraft.

1095
01:04:46,299 --> 01:04:49,539
I feel like, is there anything from Scott Simon on

1096
01:04:49,539 --> 01:04:51,879
this stuff? I kind of miss him. We got to

1097
01:04:51,879 --> 01:04:55,159
jam him into these shows somehow, Darren. He might be

1098
01:04:55,159 --> 01:04:58,699
your beat. You can follow Scott Simon closely. I'm going

1099
01:04:58,699 --> 01:05:02,029
to put that on me. I'm carrying Scott. muggled off

1100
01:05:02,029 --> 01:05:04,559
the plane in a catering truck and flew on an

1101
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:09,089
entirely different aircraft. NPR hasn't confirmed the report, but journalists

1102
01:05:09,089 --> 01:05:12,179
and White House aides who unknowingly flew on the decoy

1103
01:05:12,179 --> 01:05:16,479
plane were firmly instructed to keep their window shades lowered.

1104
01:05:16,479 --> 01:05:20,229
Later, talking to reporters, Trump never let on. Were you

1105
01:05:20,229 --> 01:05:22,559
aware of any credible threat by Iran against her? I

1106
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:24,699
have a threat all the time. I'm number one on

1107
01:05:24,699 --> 01:05:28,819
their list. That's not a lie. That's no lie, no.

1108
01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:33,199
He is definitely number one. It's been well known for

1109
01:05:33,199 --> 01:05:38,949
all sorts of reasons. Yeah. Before you, but if I

1110
01:05:38,949 --> 01:05:43,069
go, you go. I love that whole. Oh, that pissed

1111
01:05:43,069 --> 01:05:45,069
them off so much when he said that. But do

1112
01:05:45,069 --> 01:05:49,769
they not understand? It didn't really matter whether he was

1113
01:05:49,769 --> 01:05:52,739
on the plane or not. And these are the same

1114
01:05:52,739 --> 01:05:58,539
people. that are going to belittle the threats against his

1115
01:05:58,539 --> 01:06:01,759
life yet when he leaves the plane and they're on

1116
01:06:01,759 --> 01:06:03,779
it all of a sudden these are very credible threats

1117
01:06:03,779 --> 01:06:06,099
how dare you leave these other people on this plane

1118
01:06:06,099 --> 01:06:09,339
when you knew they were trying to shoot it down

1119
01:06:09,339 --> 01:06:12,699
sure well they're all the butler false flag people right

1120
01:06:12,699 --> 01:06:15,629
well anybody if you're going to be in the white

1121
01:06:15,629 --> 01:06:18,609
house press corps if you're going to be one of

1122
01:06:18,609 --> 01:06:23,759
the few that travels with the president on air force

1123
01:06:23,759 --> 01:06:28,789
one. I think unless you're a complete moron, you have

1124
01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:32,279
to understand the dangers that are inherent to that job.

1125
01:06:32,339 --> 01:06:36,909
How would you not? Sure. Like, you know, you're near

1126
01:06:36,909 --> 01:06:41,919
a guy who is, Has had more assassination attempts, I

1127
01:06:41,919 --> 01:06:45,819
believe, or was the at least there were more times

1128
01:06:45,819 --> 01:06:49,049
that Secret Service actually had to fire on assailants than

1129
01:06:49,049 --> 01:06:52,879
any other president. No, no doubt. So, of course, if

1130
01:06:52,879 --> 01:06:58,019
you're around him, that might be a little dangerous. Hmm.

1131
01:06:58,199 --> 01:07:01,089
I have a list before you, but if I go,

1132
01:07:01,089 --> 01:07:05,669
you go. Right? So perhaps someday you want to change

1133
01:07:05,669 --> 01:07:11,359
professions. Tamara Keith, NPR News. Senator Richard Blumenthal says he

1134
01:07:11,359 --> 01:07:14,389
wants to know details about President Trump's travel out of

1135
01:07:14,389 --> 01:07:17,569
Turkey after a NATO summit. Blumenthal wants to know what

1136
01:07:17,569 --> 01:07:21,319
the safety calculations were for journalists and others who traveled

1137
01:07:21,319 --> 01:07:23,679
on Air Force One. And that's why I'd like to

1138
01:07:23,679 --> 01:07:26,299
know what precautions were taken to make sure that they

1139
01:07:26,299 --> 01:07:28,999
were safe flying on an airplane that could have been...

1140
01:07:29,109 --> 01:07:33,859
a target of the Iranians with missiles or other devices

1141
01:07:33,859 --> 01:07:37,959
that were capable of evading the defensive mechanisms on the

1142
01:07:37,959 --> 01:07:41,679
old Air Force One. Blumenthal spoke on CNN. Yeah, with

1143
01:07:41,679 --> 01:07:45,609
all due respect, Senator Blumenthal, you're a moron. Yeah, he's

1144
01:07:45,609 --> 01:07:48,039
also the stolen Valor Man, isn't he? Yes, he is.

1145
01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:51,159
You know what I'm surprised at? I would think that

1146
01:07:51,159 --> 01:07:53,289
by now, in fact, maybe we should get Musk on

1147
01:07:53,289 --> 01:07:59,799
this. Why hasn't some reporter robot... been invented so all

1148
01:07:59,799 --> 01:08:01,819
these press people can feel safe they can sit home

1149
01:08:01,819 --> 01:08:04,749
in their basements and you know converse with the president

1150
01:08:04,749 --> 01:08:07,819
watch him while robbie the robot you know press corps

1151
01:08:07,819 --> 01:08:09,949
guy is he's you know who cares if he gets

1152
01:08:09,949 --> 01:08:12,869
blown up it's okay Right. Right. You just have your

1153
01:08:12,869 --> 01:08:16,689
analog. It's like a little thing. Exactly. They did a

1154
01:08:16,689 --> 01:08:19,599
bit like that on the big bang theory, which was

1155
01:08:19,599 --> 01:08:22,739
Sheldon as the robot. And he couldn't leave the house

1156
01:08:22,739 --> 01:08:26,219
for some reason. I don't remember why. Right. They put

1157
01:08:26,219 --> 01:08:28,179
a drudge's hat on him with the press pass and

1158
01:08:28,179 --> 01:08:30,029
the hat band. Right. All you need is like an

1159
01:08:30,029 --> 01:08:31,959
iPad for the head. You put them on Zoom or

1160
01:08:31,959 --> 01:08:36,599
something like that. And everything's good. Bob's your uncle. It

1161
01:08:36,599 --> 01:08:39,309
just seems to. Yeah. It's so easy. It just seems

1162
01:08:39,309 --> 01:08:42,889
to work. Hmm. This I thought we don't, you know,

1163
01:08:42,889 --> 01:08:47,449
again, normally coverage the. Yeah. Of the podcast, but Rogan,

1164
01:08:47,449 --> 01:08:49,859
I thought had an interesting take on the Trump decoy.

1165
01:08:50,519 --> 01:08:54,239
Okay. Apparently, there was this plot where Iran was trying

1166
01:08:54,239 --> 01:08:57,939
to kill Trump. Remember when he was supposed to get

1167
01:08:57,939 --> 01:09:01,069
in the Air Force One that... Cotter gave him and

1168
01:09:01,069 --> 01:09:04,579
then instead he flew in the old Air Force One.

1169
01:09:05,059 --> 01:09:08,839
Okay. Well, they're saying that he actually didn't even go

1170
01:09:08,839 --> 01:09:11,799
in the old Air Force One, that they snuck him

1171
01:09:11,799 --> 01:09:16,519
out on a truck. Okay. Like some fucking cargo truck.

1172
01:09:16,699 --> 01:09:19,219
Okay. And then put him in another kind of plane.

1173
01:09:19,219 --> 01:09:21,289
Okay. And flew them out of there. And then they

1174
01:09:21,289 --> 01:09:24,259
put the press in Air Force One. Because they were

1175
01:09:24,259 --> 01:09:27,839
apparently worried they were going to target Air Force One

1176
01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:31,389
as well. So imagine... Trump put the press on Air

1177
01:09:31,389 --> 01:09:35,759
Force One and they were thinking about possibly targeting them.

1178
01:09:36,099 --> 01:09:39,000
Holy shit. He hid in an airport catering container. And

1179
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,159
by putting them there, he means they were there because

1180
01:09:41,159 --> 01:09:43,479
they were going to be there anyway. The only thing

1181
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,259
that changed was Trump was taken. Yes. Off the plane.

1182
01:09:47,759 --> 01:09:51,389
And the catering thing. Genius. Genius. I know Taylor Swift

1183
01:09:51,389 --> 01:09:53,039
has used the same thing to get in and out

1184
01:09:53,039 --> 01:09:55,199
of arenas. I wonder how the food was in that

1185
01:09:55,199 --> 01:09:57,839
catering truck. Was there a snack prepared from inside there?

1186
01:09:58,119 --> 01:09:59,979
No. Trump might have come out with.

1187
01:10:00,041 --> 01:10:03,421
The lamb shank or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is

1188
01:10:03,421 --> 01:10:07,051
some good stuff. It's great stuff. To a military jet

1189
01:10:07,051 --> 01:10:09,471
for a secret flight out of the country after the

1190
01:10:09,471 --> 01:10:11,561
NATO summit last month. And this is being reported by

1191
01:10:11,561 --> 01:10:14,291
the New York Times. The thing is, though, I think

1192
01:10:14,291 --> 01:10:18,431
they put the press on Air Force One. So if

1193
01:10:18,431 --> 01:10:21,112
they flew him out, it was because they were worried

1194
01:10:21,112 --> 01:10:22,341
they were going to try to take down Air Force

1195
01:10:22,341 --> 01:10:25,521
One. And they took the press. If they take the

1196
01:10:25,521 --> 01:10:28,661
press off, then they know that we know. You've got

1197
01:10:28,661 --> 01:10:32,481
to let them know that we're not playing games. Just

1198
01:10:32,481 --> 01:10:36,791
everything's normal. Exactly. And if the press dies, so sad.

1199
01:10:36,851 --> 01:10:39,411
Oh, my God. You just get more press. God. That's

1200
01:10:39,411 --> 01:10:42,201
fucking wild. If that's true, that is so wild that

1201
01:10:42,201 --> 01:10:45,032
he didn't even tell them, hey, guys, we're not really

1202
01:10:45,032 --> 01:10:46,782
going to get on this plane. No one's getting on

1203
01:10:46,782 --> 01:10:49,612
this plane. Somebody tell Joe that Clinton did the same

1204
01:10:49,612 --> 01:10:52,362
thing. I guess he missed that as well. It's all

1205
01:10:52,362 --> 01:10:56,791
right, Joe. But, you know, it's an interesting concept. It

1206
01:10:56,791 --> 01:10:59,251
is. And then they all want to get upset because

1207
01:10:59,251 --> 01:11:01,391
we were on the plane and we were in harm's

1208
01:11:01,391 --> 01:11:04,721
way. It's like, well, the only difference is whether Trump

1209
01:11:04,721 --> 01:11:06,822
was on the plane or not. You knew you were

1210
01:11:06,822 --> 01:11:09,192
going to be on the plane. You signed up for

1211
01:11:09,192 --> 01:11:12,771
that gig. You know, you're covering the president. You know,

1212
01:11:12,771 --> 01:11:15,211
you're on Air Force One. You know, that has some

1213
01:11:15,211 --> 01:11:18,181
danger. So come on. So they can all ask for

1214
01:11:18,181 --> 01:11:21,431
hazard pay. Now they should. If you're covering the president,

1215
01:11:21,431 --> 01:11:24,431
I'd be like, pay me double, man. Yeah. If you

1216
01:11:24,431 --> 01:11:26,521
got to be anywhere near that guy, it could get

1217
01:11:26,521 --> 01:11:30,902
very dangerous, very quick. But he doesn't care. The UFC

1218
01:11:30,902 --> 01:11:33,612
thing, right? Hey, you got to go sometime. Hey, we

1219
01:11:33,612 --> 01:11:36,091
talked about on the last show. He's like, I got

1220
01:11:36,091 --> 01:11:38,572
to go. We all got to go at some point.

1221
01:11:38,572 --> 01:11:42,681
And Trump at the age that he is, I think

1222
01:11:42,681 --> 01:11:47,152
is understanding that, you know, he's there to do a

1223
01:11:47,152 --> 01:11:54,112
job. And. It's hard to put yourself into anybody else's

1224
01:11:54,112 --> 01:11:58,652
shoes no matter what. Sure. But I think after the

1225
01:11:58,652 --> 01:12:04,501
Butler thing. Trump had a reckoning that, you know, if

1226
01:12:04,501 --> 01:12:08,851
I don't know what his belief system is, but if

1227
01:12:08,851 --> 01:12:12,591
you believe in a higher power at all and a

1228
01:12:12,591 --> 01:12:17,761
bullet literally grazes your ear but does not blow your

1229
01:12:17,761 --> 01:12:22,831
head off. I think you kind of double down, triple

1230
01:12:22,831 --> 01:12:26,451
down, quadruple down or more on the I'm here to

1231
01:12:26,451 --> 01:12:29,501
do a job. This is clear. And the man or

1232
01:12:29,501 --> 01:12:35,081
woman upstairs, whatever you believe in, is looking out for

1233
01:12:35,081 --> 01:12:39,991
him. One would think, yeah. Because it's a very interesting

1234
01:12:39,991 --> 01:12:42,291
position to be in. And the guy, I mean, he's

1235
01:12:42,291 --> 01:12:44,851
either just a total badass. People are like, oh, they're

1236
01:12:44,851 --> 01:12:47,641
all Trumpers. Hey, I didn't even vote for Trump the

1237
01:12:47,641 --> 01:12:50,891
first time. Shame on you. No, you weren't well at

1238
01:12:50,891 --> 01:12:52,881
the time. No, I was faced down with the whole

1239
01:12:52,881 --> 01:12:56,631
rental detachment thing. I forgive you, Derek. Time flies when

1240
01:12:56,631 --> 01:12:59,511
you're having fun. Where do we want to go in

1241
01:12:59,511 --> 01:13:05,251
this media deconstruction? Media deconstruction. Well, this is kind of

1242
01:13:05,251 --> 01:13:07,291
a fun one here with a kind of a catchphrase

1243
01:13:07,291 --> 01:13:13,411
that might catch on. This is Caitlyn Jenner talking about...

1244
01:13:13,561 --> 01:13:15,991
One of our favorite topics. But before we go here,

1245
01:13:15,991 --> 01:13:18,532
wait a minute. Wait a minute. We're talking about the

1246
01:13:18,532 --> 01:13:23,112
WNBA, right? And last week, did I not suggest, almost

1247
01:13:23,112 --> 01:13:28,511
beg both you and Adam Curry, both at 6'5", to

1248
01:13:28,511 --> 01:13:34,051
apply for the WNBA? For the WNBA. What are you

1249
01:13:34,051 --> 01:13:36,942
waiting for? I haven't heard a goddamn thing, Darren. Get

1250
01:13:36,942 --> 01:13:42,631
busy. We could be enforcers. Exactly. Enforcers didn't usually exist

1251
01:13:42,631 --> 01:13:47,791
in basketball. In the NBA, really, they don't exist. In

1252
01:13:47,791 --> 01:13:51,001
the WNBA, they didn't exist. In hockey is the sport

1253
01:13:51,001 --> 01:13:55,711
where you have... the enforcer, which is somebody that is

1254
01:13:56,621 --> 01:14:01,591
Almost entirely on the team. to fight people on the

1255
01:14:01,591 --> 01:14:04,152
other team. Was that Dave the Hammer Schultz? Was he

1256
01:14:04,152 --> 01:14:05,671
one of those guys? There were a few of them

1257
01:14:05,671 --> 01:14:07,541
in the... What a name. Don't you wish you were

1258
01:14:07,541 --> 01:14:10,751
nicknamed the Hammer? I'm telling you, man. There were some...

1259
01:14:10,751 --> 01:14:13,991
Stu Grimson was one of them here in Chicago. There

1260
01:14:13,991 --> 01:14:17,251
were a few that that was... When they went on

1261
01:14:17,251 --> 01:14:21,671
the ice, you knew... Within seconds, most likely, there was

1262
01:14:21,671 --> 01:14:25,112
going to be the gloves dropping and a fight breaking

1263
01:14:25,112 --> 01:14:30,061
out. And there's nothing more interesting to me. And there's

1264
01:14:30,061 --> 01:14:32,421
a bunch of videos on YouTube that anybody can look

1265
01:14:32,421 --> 01:14:41,322
up. of nhl players talking to each other before and

1266
01:14:41,322 --> 01:14:45,281
after fights including there is some you know they're sitting

1267
01:14:45,281 --> 01:14:47,421
there they're waiting for the puck to drop so this

1268
01:14:47,421 --> 01:14:49,992
is you know when the referee is holding there he's

1269
01:14:49,992 --> 01:14:51,621
getting ready to drop the puck play will go in

1270
01:14:51,621 --> 01:14:53,671
but they they wait until the puck drops for the

1271
01:14:53,671 --> 01:14:57,391
fight to start Sure. And these two guys are standing

1272
01:14:57,391 --> 01:14:58,951
next to each other and there's a bunch of them

1273
01:14:58,951 --> 01:15:00,581
that are out there like this. And the one that

1274
01:15:00,581 --> 01:15:02,681
comes to mind, the guy's like, Hey, how you doing?

1275
01:15:02,681 --> 01:15:06,311
Oh, I'm good. You want to go? Yeah, sure. Oh,

1276
01:15:06,311 --> 01:15:09,242
good luck to you. And the buck drops as they

1277
01:15:09,242 --> 01:15:13,451
start fighting. and then after they're in the penalty box,

1278
01:15:13,451 --> 01:15:15,431
like, Oh, I got to work on my cardio, man.

1279
01:15:16,331 --> 01:15:20,051
It's like, it's their job. It's what they do. So,

1280
01:15:20,112 --> 01:15:22,152
I mean, I could be an enforcer in the WNBA.

1281
01:15:22,311 --> 01:15:24,862
Pretty sure. Go for it. Go for it. You need

1282
01:15:24,862 --> 01:15:27,242
an agent. You can be, you'll be, okay, if you

1283
01:15:27,242 --> 01:15:29,221
can get Adam and I the gigs, you know, on

1284
01:15:29,221 --> 01:15:31,902
the WNBA, you play the agent, you get us the

1285
01:15:31,902 --> 01:15:35,471
spot. I'll be your Jerry Maguire. Exactly. Show me the

1286
01:15:35,471 --> 01:15:39,801
money. Exactly. No, not Cuba, Jerry. Oh, okay. Cuba was

1287
01:15:39,801 --> 01:15:43,992
canceled too, you know. Who hasn't been canceled? Really? Who

1288
01:15:43,992 --> 01:15:47,621
hasn't been canceled? Yeah. And who doesn't understand yet that

1289
01:15:47,621 --> 01:15:51,152
the canceling is usually at the behest of a large

1290
01:15:51,152 --> 01:15:57,501
money group? Yes. Very rarely that it's actually a grassroots

1291
01:15:57,501 --> 01:16:02,251
movement. Yes. Now, we have any setup on this, Caitlin.

1292
01:16:02,511 --> 01:16:05,251
Yeah, it's just it's it's it's Caitlin Jenner talking to,

1293
01:16:05,251 --> 01:16:07,192
you know, on the news to someone. I don't know.

1294
01:16:07,192 --> 01:16:12,031
Some talking head about his her thoughts on the WNBA.

1295
01:16:12,551 --> 01:16:16,171
X, X, you're in. X, Y, you're out. It's simple.

1296
01:16:16,171 --> 01:16:19,641
That's the catchphrase. Let's remember that. I'm going to get

1297
01:16:19,641 --> 01:16:23,011
that tattooed on myself. X, you're in. X, while you're

1298
01:16:23,011 --> 01:16:28,411
out. That is called pure logic for any generation besides

1299
01:16:28,411 --> 01:16:32,411
this current one. You're right. It is. X, X, you're

1300
01:16:32,411 --> 01:16:37,281
in. XY, you're out. It's that simple. And I think

1301
01:16:37,281 --> 01:16:39,591
are doing a good job just to show the WNBA

1302
01:16:39,591 --> 01:16:42,992
how the hypocrisy that's going on here. We have to

1303
01:16:42,992 --> 01:16:46,492
protect women's sports. I have been coming on this show

1304
01:16:46,492 --> 01:16:49,531
for years and years. I want to protect women's sports.

1305
01:16:49,531 --> 01:16:53,211
Right. Title nine was. One of the greatest legislations, and

1306
01:16:53,211 --> 01:16:56,601
it was over 50 years ago, for women's equality. It

1307
01:16:56,601 --> 01:16:58,771
happened to be in sports. But look at what it's

1308
01:16:58,771 --> 01:17:02,431
done for women's sports. I don't want that to be

1309
01:17:02,431 --> 01:17:06,902
ruined by letting biological men come in and play in

1310
01:17:06,902 --> 01:17:10,851
women's sports. You know, XX you're in, XY you're out.

1311
01:17:11,011 --> 01:17:14,001
You can go play with the men. Right. Where's the

1312
01:17:14,001 --> 01:17:18,371
trans league? That's fine. That's fine. Do that. Yeah. As

1313
01:17:18,371 --> 01:17:21,871
long as everybody is on equal footing, that's all that

1314
01:17:21,871 --> 01:17:25,801
matters. And it didn't occur to me at first. And

1315
01:17:25,801 --> 01:17:28,742
you were the first one to bring it up, which

1316
01:17:28,742 --> 01:17:32,902
was the fighters in men boxing. are all done by

1317
01:17:32,902 --> 01:17:35,631
weight class and it's done for a reason that you

1318
01:17:35,631 --> 01:17:40,121
don't have a lightweight fighting a heavyweight. Sure. And that

1319
01:17:40,121 --> 01:17:43,891
is within the same sex. Yeah. So when you go

1320
01:17:43,891 --> 01:17:47,841
on down this other, which is why, as you've probably

1321
01:17:47,841 --> 01:17:52,581
noticed, we brought the clip on the last show, two

1322
01:17:52,581 --> 01:17:57,501
shows ago, where the guy from outkick sports, uh, offered

1323
01:17:57,501 --> 01:18:01,471
$10 million. He was hoping that Elon would like triple

1324
01:18:01,471 --> 01:18:03,511
that or something or bring it to a hundred million.

1325
01:18:03,631 --> 01:18:10,011
Yeah. Because he wants to see the WNBA champions, uh,

1326
01:18:10,572 --> 01:18:14,291
go up against a high school basketball team he is

1327
01:18:14,291 --> 01:18:17,451
so sure remember we had the clip from the journalist

1328
01:18:17,451 --> 01:18:20,481
in minneapolis like well they're just treating this as a

1329
01:18:20,481 --> 01:18:23,451
joke it's like no no that's real money madam of

1330
01:18:23,451 --> 01:18:26,211
course it is and it's not a joke it is

1331
01:18:26,211 --> 01:18:32,021
to prove that a high school team will Most likely

1332
01:18:32,021 --> 01:18:38,421
not just beat the WNBA champions. They will probably blow

1333
01:18:38,421 --> 01:18:43,481
them out. Yeah. And if that's the case, I don't

1334
01:18:43,481 --> 01:18:48,011
know how anybody with any bit of logic to them

1335
01:18:48,011 --> 01:18:50,652
would not be able to look at it and go,

1336
01:18:50,652 --> 01:18:53,021
oh. Yeah, now I get it. This is why we

1337
01:18:53,021 --> 01:18:55,411
don't let men play in women's sports. You know, it's

1338
01:18:55,411 --> 01:18:58,641
like, you know, the key word is logic. You can't

1339
01:18:58,641 --> 01:19:00,801
ask for that, Darren. Just don't even don't even use

1340
01:19:00,801 --> 01:19:03,652
the word. It's bad. Well, that's why I can't even

1341
01:19:03,652 --> 01:19:06,251
imagine. And this would be the fun part. Maybe they

1342
01:19:06,251 --> 01:19:08,711
would only end up playing a game. These, you know,

1343
01:19:08,711 --> 01:19:10,981
Inez Freedom and the other dude, I forget his name,

1344
01:19:10,981 --> 01:19:14,781
who wanted in. Yeah. On the WNBA. But just say

1345
01:19:14,781 --> 01:19:19,871
these guys or someone like them. Hell, probably even Michael

1346
01:19:19,871 --> 01:19:23,281
Jordan at his age now. Oh, sure. Were to go

1347
01:19:23,281 --> 01:19:27,021
in and play one game for a WNBA team. It

1348
01:19:27,021 --> 01:19:30,351
would be hard to believe that they wouldn't dominate the

1349
01:19:30,351 --> 01:19:33,511
game. Okay, Jordan's lost the step. He's getting older, but...

1350
01:19:33,961 --> 01:19:36,201
These guys that are fresh out of the NBA or

1351
01:19:36,201 --> 01:19:41,421
if you were to take a current NBA player, I

1352
01:19:41,421 --> 01:19:45,921
would expect that guy to score 80 points. He would

1353
01:19:45,921 --> 01:19:48,391
make the world. I think Will Chamberlain holds the record.

1354
01:19:48,652 --> 01:19:51,291
Whatever it is, he would make that look like nothing.

1355
01:19:52,072 --> 01:19:55,971
Yeah, no doubt. Because again, it's logic and we don't

1356
01:19:55,971 --> 01:19:59,992
have logic. There was another Victor Davis breakdown.

1357
01:20:00,053 --> 01:20:02,683
on this, which I'm intrigued that he keeps covering this.

1358
01:20:03,163 --> 01:20:10,293
Really? Yes. Kaitlin Clark single-handedly put the WNBA on the

1359
01:20:10,293 --> 01:20:16,013
map. True. And that's what the problem is because the

1360
01:20:16,013 --> 01:20:20,513
WNBA was sort of a little unknown league that was

1361
01:20:20,513 --> 01:20:25,923
65% black. People had suggested it was 35 to 40

1362
01:20:25,923 --> 01:20:30,663
percent gay, and they sort of had their own little

1363
01:20:30,663 --> 01:20:36,023
atmosphere, their own culture, and they weren't really being rewarded,

1364
01:20:36,023 --> 01:20:42,493
but they controlled the ownership of, The coaches, the referees,

1365
01:20:42,493 --> 01:20:47,203
the players all were on this DEI left wing page.

1366
01:20:47,203 --> 01:20:53,523
And suddenly the great benefactors, all of them, happened to

1367
01:20:53,523 --> 01:21:00,773
be white heterosexuals like Caitlin Clark and Sophie Cunningham. Which

1368
01:21:00,773 --> 01:21:04,093
is the problem. It's like it's somebody that doesn't fit

1369
01:21:04,093 --> 01:21:08,363
into our group, which it's the separation of groups. It

1370
01:21:08,363 --> 01:21:11,693
is a thread that has been going on for 50

1371
01:21:11,693 --> 01:21:15,173
years. You get the rich again. You get the poor

1372
01:21:15,173 --> 01:21:18,663
against the rich. You get everybody against the cops. You

1373
01:21:18,663 --> 01:21:22,303
get the black against the white. You get everybody. Everybody.

1374
01:21:23,413 --> 01:21:26,863
And this was a very specific little group in the

1375
01:21:26,863 --> 01:21:30,553
WNBA. And all of a sudden they're like, wait, these

1376
01:21:30,553 --> 01:21:33,463
two women that are now getting all of the attention.

1377
01:21:34,203 --> 01:21:37,843
Well, they're the minority. They don't fit into what the

1378
01:21:37,843 --> 01:21:42,293
rest of the league is, even though they are. showing

1379
01:21:42,293 --> 01:21:46,173
them up with what they're doing on the court. They

1380
01:21:46,173 --> 01:21:50,513
don't like that because like so many things now, everything

1381
01:21:50,513 --> 01:21:55,213
is culture based. It's race based. It is. Oh, wait,

1382
01:21:55,213 --> 01:21:57,933
you're not a lesbian. How dare you play in the

1383
01:21:57,933 --> 01:22:01,853
WNBA? And they didn't want that. In other words, they

1384
01:22:01,853 --> 01:22:05,673
were willing to commit violence against them. And the league

1385
01:22:05,673 --> 01:22:10,583
was either going to condone it or plead ignorance rather

1386
01:22:10,583 --> 01:22:14,743
than all benefit. Yeah. And we're seeing that. It's just

1387
01:22:14,743 --> 01:22:18,113
like the violence in the streets of, well, name your

1388
01:22:18,113 --> 01:22:22,303
major city here. Sure. Sure. What's stunning, though, is that

1389
01:22:22,303 --> 01:22:26,963
the coaches not only not disapprove of this behavior, they

1390
01:22:26,963 --> 01:22:30,113
advocate for it. You know, like the one that's running

1391
01:22:30,113 --> 01:22:33,743
the fever, right? She's all pissed off. And, I mean,

1392
01:22:33,743 --> 01:22:37,193
you watch a lot more team sports than I do,

1393
01:22:37,193 --> 01:22:42,783
but it's always been sort of... believe that if the

1394
01:22:42,783 --> 01:22:46,403
guys or the women on any given athletic team are

1395
01:22:46,403 --> 01:22:52,323
adversaries, their performance is going to plummet, really. You know,

1396
01:22:52,323 --> 01:22:55,303
I mean, think about that. And these people are hating

1397
01:22:55,303 --> 01:22:57,183
each other and pissed off and so forth. It's got

1398
01:22:57,183 --> 01:23:00,623
to affect the level of play. And most coaches would

1399
01:23:00,623 --> 01:23:04,543
squelch that damn fast because that spreads very quickly. Right,

1400
01:23:04,543 --> 01:23:09,013
because the ideal would be a team where everybody sticks

1401
01:23:09,013 --> 01:23:14,463
together. Yeah, of course. Yeah. The number one job of

1402
01:23:14,463 --> 01:23:19,243
coaching or managing is to back your player no matter

1403
01:23:19,243 --> 01:23:22,163
what. Even if you think they were wrong, the thing

1404
01:23:22,163 --> 01:23:25,823
you do in public in front of the cameras is

1405
01:23:25,823 --> 01:23:29,413
you back your player. Yeah. And there was a lot

1406
01:23:29,413 --> 01:23:33,193
of this in the. Yeah. Chicago Bulls, even when Michael

1407
01:23:33,193 --> 01:23:37,823
Jordan was here winning six different championships, you know, there

1408
01:23:37,823 --> 01:23:42,143
was inner strife at times, and that definitely took their

1409
01:23:42,143 --> 01:23:44,703
teams down, and then you had, when I used to

1410
01:23:44,703 --> 01:23:47,863
watch baseball, And I used to be a baseball addict.

1411
01:23:47,983 --> 01:23:50,703
I am a recovering baseball addict. I used to watch

1412
01:23:50,703 --> 01:23:56,963
every White Sox game for this season, which is 162

1413
01:23:56,963 --> 01:24:00,753
games, plus there's spring training, plus there's postseason. It took

1414
01:24:00,753 --> 01:24:05,743
a lot of time. Really? And the 2005 White Sox,

1415
01:24:05,743 --> 01:24:08,643
I'm glad because one of my favorite players, Ozzie Guillen,

1416
01:24:08,643 --> 01:24:11,433
came to manage in 2004. Very fun guy, says things

1417
01:24:11,433 --> 01:24:15,143
people don't like. He also got canceled while managing the

1418
01:24:15,143 --> 01:24:18,863
Miami team. But 2005, I was glad. I was fully

1419
01:24:18,863 --> 01:24:21,823
into baseball. Saw the White Sox win their only championship.

1420
01:24:21,983 --> 01:24:24,923
And the point is, there was not a game. one

1421
01:24:24,923 --> 01:24:28,113
superstar on that team, but you had a whole team

1422
01:24:28,113 --> 01:24:31,503
of people that had each other's backs and they won

1423
01:24:31,503 --> 01:24:35,383
the world series. There you are. Yeah, it works. Yeah.

1424
01:24:36,253 --> 01:24:39,163
And there was one subtext that no one talks about,

1425
01:24:39,163 --> 01:24:41,903
but it's right there staring us in the face that

1426
01:24:41,903 --> 01:24:45,213
Caitlin Clark is probably the best player. And that's not

1427
01:24:45,213 --> 01:24:47,663
supposed to happen in a predominantly gay, black, gay, gay,

1428
01:24:47,663 --> 01:24:50,423
gay, gay. female league. Doesn't mean that other players are

1429
01:24:50,423 --> 01:24:53,493
not nearly as good, but we haven't seen anybody like

1430
01:24:53,493 --> 01:24:58,823
her in women's national basketball. And in the case of

1431
01:24:59,643 --> 01:25:04,333
Sophie Cunningham, she's tall, she's beautiful, she's blonde, she's white,

1432
01:25:04,333 --> 01:25:07,893
and people resent that as well. You put those two

1433
01:25:07,893 --> 01:25:12,563
figures together, they create all this controversy and hostility, and

1434
01:25:12,563 --> 01:25:16,803
they remind America that something is definitely wrong with this

1435
01:25:16,803 --> 01:25:23,163
league. Something that encourages racism, it encourages sexual prejudice, it

1436
01:25:23,163 --> 01:25:28,203
encourages violence, and nobody wants to touch it. And if

1437
01:25:28,203 --> 01:25:33,863
it continues, maybe they'll lose Sophie Cunningham and they would

1438
01:25:33,863 --> 01:25:36,823
lose... caitlin clark and if they lost both of them

1439
01:25:36,823 --> 01:25:41,043
they would go back to their preferred obscurity and poverty

1440
01:25:41,043 --> 01:25:44,813
which it seems like a very weird thing to want

1441
01:25:44,813 --> 01:25:48,303
i mean one it's really scary that it's a little

1442
01:25:48,303 --> 01:25:52,443
social you know Cosm of what's going on there, which

1443
01:25:52,443 --> 01:25:55,813
is what's going on everywhere, which is let's spread the

1444
01:25:55,813 --> 01:25:58,873
hate. Let's spread all of these bad things. But the

1445
01:25:58,873 --> 01:26:05,423
concept that they would rather. be not in the spotlight,

1446
01:26:05,423 --> 01:26:09,023
not having huge amounts of fans, not having a huge

1447
01:26:09,023 --> 01:26:12,263
bunch of money coming in because we're just having fun

1448
01:26:12,263 --> 01:26:14,123
and we only want to do it with people we

1449
01:26:14,123 --> 01:26:18,053
like. It's a very weird concept. I've only run into

1450
01:26:18,053 --> 01:26:21,033
this when working for a country artist back in the

1451
01:26:21,033 --> 01:26:25,313
day. Running the whole website fan club thing. And there

1452
01:26:25,313 --> 01:26:28,403
were people that would say things like, Oh, I'll be

1453
01:26:28,403 --> 01:26:30,563
glad when she's not so popular and we can see

1454
01:26:30,563 --> 01:26:33,343
her in a small venue again. And it's like, What?

1455
01:26:33,343 --> 01:26:37,103
I get the concept, but I realize that that is

1456
01:26:37,103 --> 01:26:40,153
just meaning your favorite artist is now going to be

1457
01:26:40,153 --> 01:26:42,823
a nobody and not making any money and not really

1458
01:26:42,823 --> 01:26:46,713
having a successful career. But OK. OK, it's easier for

1459
01:26:46,713 --> 01:26:49,653
you, I guess, to get to see him in a

1460
01:26:49,653 --> 01:26:55,403
smaller venue. But I think there's leftist underpinnings to that

1461
01:26:55,403 --> 01:26:58,943
behavior. You know, pretty much they just, look, all they

1462
01:26:58,943 --> 01:27:01,403
can say now is to destroy the billionaires and especially

1463
01:27:01,403 --> 01:27:04,333
that trillionaire. Right, that one guy, the bad guy. You

1464
01:27:04,333 --> 01:27:08,073
know, it's the gospel of envy, as Churchill called it,

1465
01:27:08,073 --> 01:27:11,773
and they just don't like to see people really... achieve

1466
01:27:11,773 --> 01:27:14,983
greatness in any way you know we all we remember

1467
01:27:14,983 --> 01:27:17,983
what's one of their favorite phrases we are one we

1468
01:27:17,983 --> 01:27:20,883
are one we are one yes you know okay i

1469
01:27:20,883 --> 01:27:25,023
keep pointing out if everybody is the same you're not

1470
01:27:25,023 --> 01:27:27,783
going to be jay-z and beyonce you're not going to

1471
01:27:27,783 --> 01:27:30,123
be taylor and travis you're not going to be rock

1472
01:27:30,123 --> 01:27:34,263
hudson and doris day no there's a callback You're going

1473
01:27:34,263 --> 01:27:37,273
to be flipping the burgers. You're going to be the

1474
01:27:37,273 --> 01:27:39,563
guy sweeping up after the horse as he walks in

1475
01:27:39,563 --> 01:27:43,083
the parade in Disneyland. You're not going to be. No,

1476
01:27:43,083 --> 01:27:45,833
they're going to be the people sitting home collecting government

1477
01:27:45,833 --> 01:27:49,083
checks just because they deserve it. They won't be big.

1478
01:27:49,443 --> 01:27:50,983
The checks. No, they won't. They're going to have to

1479
01:27:50,983 --> 01:27:54,823
steal soap. You're so true. They're going to have to

1480
01:27:54,823 --> 01:27:58,303
go to mem Donnie's grocery store and buy expired fruit.

1481
01:27:58,303 --> 01:28:00,543
And then they're going to have to steal soap. And,

1482
01:28:00,583 --> 01:28:04,463
uh, Yeah. You know, the beautiful thing about the United

1483
01:28:04,463 --> 01:28:08,103
States is you're going to fail. You're probably going to

1484
01:28:08,103 --> 01:28:12,063
fail, but you get to try again. Yes. Nobody knows

1485
01:28:12,063 --> 01:28:14,863
if your first act is going to work. For some

1486
01:28:14,863 --> 01:28:17,013
people, it does. For some people, it takes a little

1487
01:28:17,013 --> 01:28:20,233
while longer. And if you put in the hard work,

1488
01:28:20,233 --> 01:28:28,083
eventually. you'll probably hit on something. Hopefully, yeah. Now, we've

1489
01:28:28,083 --> 01:28:32,183
got the USS Lincoln. We've got the Glove Story. I

1490
01:28:32,183 --> 01:28:36,543
mean, it's all good stuff, man. Pick one. Endless buffet.

1491
01:28:37,123 --> 01:28:41,843
Yeah. We've got the USS Lincoln, which, again, is going

1492
01:28:41,843 --> 01:28:47,983
to show you more about... how the media treats things

1493
01:28:47,983 --> 01:28:53,563
more than actually having a story. We've got, of course,

1494
01:28:53,563 --> 01:28:55,033
MS now. They're going to be on top of it,

1495
01:28:55,033 --> 01:28:58,483
right? Good, good, good. My colleague Lindsay Papilla and I

1496
01:28:58,483 --> 01:29:01,153
spoke exclusively to the wife of the sailor who jumped

1497
01:29:01,153 --> 01:29:03,983
off the USS Lincoln and was medically evacuated from the

1498
01:29:03,983 --> 01:29:07,623
ship. The Lincoln's been deployed for 265 days and hit

1499
01:29:07,623 --> 01:29:10,563
a modern day record for most continuous days at sea

1500
01:29:10,563 --> 01:29:13,303
without a port call. Of course, we got the music

1501
01:29:13,303 --> 01:29:16,243
that has to be very dramatic. Yeah. I don't even

1502
01:29:16,243 --> 01:29:18,523
know if that was music. It was awful. It really

1503
01:29:18,523 --> 01:29:22,683
sounded like a modem tone. Just really. Yeah, exactly. Yes.

1504
01:29:23,263 --> 01:29:25,123
And if you don't know what a modem tone is,

1505
01:29:25,163 --> 01:29:27,423
listen to the last show and you will find out

1506
01:29:27,423 --> 01:29:31,113
plenty of them there. But we spoke exclusively in all

1507
01:29:31,113 --> 01:29:37,223
of these stories. Are coming through family members, which means

1508
01:29:37,223 --> 01:29:42,003
you're not getting any firsthand accounts. And they're making it

1509
01:29:42,003 --> 01:29:47,953
sound like these ships are out there for completely ungodly

1510
01:29:47,953 --> 01:29:51,333
lengths of time. Are they a little longer than normal

1511
01:29:51,333 --> 01:29:55,723
with the Lincoln right now? Yes, but it's not exactly

1512
01:29:55,723 --> 01:29:59,783
going on years or anything. You're talking...

1513
01:30:00,019 --> 01:30:03,059
Maybe a month or two extended over what in average.

1514
01:30:03,059 --> 01:30:06,479
I don't know if most people understand this, Larry. It

1515
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,819
takes a little bit of money to move an aircraft

1516
01:30:08,819 --> 01:30:12,809
carrier from the United States to the Iran off the

1517
01:30:12,809 --> 01:30:17,279
Strait of Hormuz. It's a little bit of an expense.

1518
01:30:17,879 --> 01:30:20,769
So what is the point of MS now running this

1519
01:30:20,769 --> 01:30:24,299
story? Because so is it is it Trump bad? Trump

1520
01:30:24,299 --> 01:30:28,729
bad. OK. Family members are concerned about potential exhaustion, low

1521
01:30:28,729 --> 01:30:31,959
morale and the mental health of those on board. We

1522
01:30:31,959 --> 01:30:35,679
know MS now very unlikely that they're going to care

1523
01:30:35,679 --> 01:30:41,339
about the well-being of the military. Yeah. The wife of

1524
01:30:41,339 --> 01:30:44,009
the sailor who jumped said her husband was struggling with

1525
01:30:44,009 --> 01:30:47,179
his mental health and repeatedly expressed his concerns to his

1526
01:30:47,179 --> 01:30:51,389
higher-ups, but was quote-unquote brushed off. The Navy says they

1527
01:30:51,389 --> 01:30:54,659
can't comment on the medical records of individual service members

1528
01:30:54,659 --> 01:30:58,119
to protect patient privacy. In the last message she received

1529
01:30:58,119 --> 01:31:00,979
from him before he went overboard, he said in part,

1530
01:31:01,199 --> 01:31:03,419
I think the boat is finally getting to me. It's

1531
01:31:03,419 --> 01:31:05,869
really getting me. I don't think I can do another

1532
01:31:05,869 --> 01:31:08,039
deployment after this, and I don't even know if I

1533
01:31:08,039 --> 01:31:10,769
can finish this deployment. The woman told me her husband

1534
01:31:10,769 --> 01:31:13,699
jumped off the ship. last Monday, but she didn't hear

1535
01:31:13,699 --> 01:31:17,619
anything from the Navy for four days, not until Friday,

1536
01:31:17,859 --> 01:31:20,999
despite her attempts to reach out. She also said he

1537
01:31:20,999 --> 01:31:24,799
raised concerns about his prescription contact lenses having expired, saying

1538
01:31:24,799 --> 01:31:27,379
he was getting yelled at for accidents on the flight

1539
01:31:27,379 --> 01:31:30,899
deck that he said happened because he couldn't see properly.

1540
01:31:31,419 --> 01:31:34,899
She says despite that, he was still allowed to work.

1541
01:31:34,959 --> 01:31:37,029
She told me, quote, I think that also had a

1542
01:31:37,029 --> 01:31:38,969
big toll on him because he could have injured a

1543
01:31:38,969 --> 01:31:41,519
lot of people and he could have injured himself because

1544
01:31:41,519 --> 01:31:43,979
that's what they kept yelling at him every time he

1545
01:31:43,979 --> 01:31:47,949
made a mistake. So basically everything's wrong. They're doing everything

1546
01:31:47,949 --> 01:31:51,119
wrong. I mean, can you buy that? Imagine this. So

1547
01:31:51,119 --> 01:31:53,019
this guy, he's on the flight deck of a carrier,

1548
01:31:53,019 --> 01:31:55,189
and I would assume in some ways he's responsible for

1549
01:31:55,189 --> 01:31:59,039
the safe takeoff and landings of the aircraft, right? Correct.

1550
01:31:59,539 --> 01:32:03,749
That's what they're saying anyway. What skipper on earth, even

1551
01:32:03,749 --> 01:32:08,079
in the Navy of Zimbabwe? would say, oh, you're not

1552
01:32:08,079 --> 01:32:10,099
seeing so good. Do it anyway. We'll take our chances

1553
01:32:10,099 --> 01:32:13,299
with you. I mean, it's ludicrous. There's got to be

1554
01:32:13,299 --> 01:32:16,139
more to this story, a lot more to this story

1555
01:32:16,139 --> 01:32:18,079
than we're getting. Well, yeah, because if you know your

1556
01:32:18,079 --> 01:32:20,359
contacts are expiring, believe it or not, they do bring

1557
01:32:20,359 --> 01:32:22,589
mail and stuff to these people. You could have had

1558
01:32:22,589 --> 01:32:26,359
more contacts delivered. You know. Absolutely. Just because they don't

1559
01:32:26,359 --> 01:32:29,839
sail into a port, they still get supply ships visit.

1560
01:32:30,039 --> 01:32:31,819
And they can move stuff from ship to ship like

1561
01:32:31,819 --> 01:32:36,959
you wouldn't believe. And that's the beauty of these types

1562
01:32:36,959 --> 01:32:39,899
of reports that are, well, we spoke to the family

1563
01:32:39,899 --> 01:32:43,859
and here's what they're reporting. And of course, there's nobody

1564
01:32:43,859 --> 01:32:47,649
here to push back on any of this. And the

1565
01:32:47,649 --> 01:32:52,359
report, again, the amount of money. That it would cost

1566
01:32:52,359 --> 01:32:55,369
if there was an accident with a plane going onto

1567
01:32:55,369 --> 01:32:59,639
the carrier would the toll of lives would be just

1568
01:32:59,639 --> 01:33:04,459
unbelievably harsh. So, yeah, I don't believe for a minute

1569
01:33:04,459 --> 01:33:06,989
or somebody like, hey, Skipper, I can't see like, no,

1570
01:33:06,989 --> 01:33:10,219
no problem. Go out there. Don't buy it for one

1571
01:33:10,219 --> 01:33:12,979
minute. And of course we don't have any comment in

1572
01:33:12,979 --> 01:33:15,699
the whole, Oh no, they didn't hear from for four

1573
01:33:15,699 --> 01:33:20,479
days. They're in a war zone. Okay, you may not

1574
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:25,329
get notified immediately. I hope these people understand that you're

1575
01:33:25,329 --> 01:33:28,999
not going to get immediate notification. It's a weird thing.

1576
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:32,639
I don't know how much communication we can get boots

1577
01:33:32,639 --> 01:33:36,379
on the ground from somebody probably for this. How much

1578
01:33:36,379 --> 01:33:42,099
communication if you're on a mission like this. Can you

1579
01:33:42,099 --> 01:33:45,039
email daily? Can you text? I don't know. What is

1580
01:33:45,039 --> 01:33:49,249
available? Yeah. I mean, I would assume with Elon's magical

1581
01:33:49,249 --> 01:33:54,069
satellites, you could probably communicate a lot, but it's like

1582
01:33:54,069 --> 01:33:57,359
that is something that maybe shouldn't be allowed either. I

1583
01:33:57,359 --> 01:34:16,419
don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Also, MSNOW. Two unnamed

1584
01:34:16,419 --> 01:34:20,799
sources, of course. Of course. Of course they're unnamed. They

1585
01:34:20,799 --> 01:34:24,739
were there. I first reported about the conditions on the

1586
01:34:24,739 --> 01:34:27,649
USS Lincoln last week after speaking to about a dozen

1587
01:34:27,649 --> 01:34:30,699
of the family members of the Marines and sailors on

1588
01:34:30,699 --> 01:34:34,629
board. They told me about things like non-operational toilets, moldy

1589
01:34:34,629 --> 01:34:38,429
showers, and the ship's store lacking basic hygiene products like

1590
01:34:38,429 --> 01:34:42,789
toothpaste, soap, and deodorant. The Lincoln's deployment appears to be

1591
01:34:42,789 --> 01:34:45,129
extended for a second time. time and they just hit

1592
01:34:45,129 --> 01:34:47,509
a modern day record in the navy for the most

1593
01:34:47,509 --> 01:34:51,279
continuous days at sea topping 200 days many of the

1594
01:34:51,279 --> 01:34:54,779
family members who spoke up at the meeting were crying

1595
01:34:54,779 --> 01:34:57,999
about the lack of hygiene products on board and they

1596
01:34:57,999 --> 01:35:01,099
say that they're all right for all of the things

1597
01:35:01,099 --> 01:35:04,559
you can be upset about Well, see, that ship needs

1598
01:35:04,559 --> 01:35:06,619
to dock in New York so they can steal the

1599
01:35:06,619 --> 01:35:10,419
soap from CVS. There's an easy answer. Come on. I

1600
01:35:10,419 --> 01:35:14,939
don't believe for one minute a military family is crying

1601
01:35:14,939 --> 01:35:19,139
because mommy or daddy can't get a tube of toothpaste.

1602
01:35:20,359 --> 01:35:24,279
Yeah. Also really worried about the fact that these long

1603
01:35:24,279 --> 01:35:27,999
hours with very little breaks could lead to exhaustion, which

1604
01:35:27,999 --> 01:35:32,409
could potentially lead to accidents. Which, again, the military is

1605
01:35:32,409 --> 01:35:35,669
well aware of. And if there are accidents, it is

1606
01:35:35,669 --> 01:35:41,029
a multimillion dollar accident on an aircraft carrier. Sure. So

1607
01:35:41,029 --> 01:35:47,299
usually they have a pretty well-oiled machine, if you will,

1608
01:35:47,299 --> 01:35:51,919
on scheduling and people have off time. Now, I understand

1609
01:35:51,919 --> 01:35:55,629
maybe some people have insomnia. Some people are tired. It's

1610
01:35:55,629 --> 01:35:58,479
been a long. I get it. But this is not

1611
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,349
the first time a ship has been sent out for

1612
01:36:01,349 --> 01:36:05,869
over 200 days. I'm sure it isn't. At times, the

1613
01:36:05,869 --> 01:36:08,769
family members were crying in the meeting, saying that they

1614
01:36:08,769 --> 01:36:11,559
were really worried about the fact that their loved ones

1615
01:36:11,559 --> 01:36:15,279
were facing food shortages and also shortages in basic supplies.

1616
01:36:15,619 --> 01:36:17,609
Wouldn't you have led with maybe there's food shortage, but

1617
01:36:17,609 --> 01:36:20,109
maybe there were food shortages. We're not saying there is

1618
01:36:20,109 --> 01:36:24,549
food shortages. We're saying there's possible food shortages, Larry. Yeah,

1619
01:36:24,549 --> 01:36:28,079
well, we're not saying there are. But we're saying it's

1620
01:36:28,079 --> 01:36:33,409
possible. Yeah. Well, anything's possible. At one point, a woman

1621
01:36:33,409 --> 01:36:36,359
actually said that she found it difficult to be proud

1622
01:36:36,359 --> 01:36:40,129
of her husband's service because he had actually been questioning

1623
01:36:40,129 --> 01:36:43,319
the mission after he had seen several news reports about

1624
01:36:43,319 --> 01:36:47,219
innocent civilians being killed in Iran. There we go. There

1625
01:36:47,219 --> 01:36:49,189
you go. You know, there you go. You know, the

1626
01:36:49,189 --> 01:36:52,629
innocent civilians killed in Iran were there. The people that

1627
01:36:52,629 --> 01:36:55,939
were standing up that the government killed. The reason you're

1628
01:36:55,939 --> 01:37:00,459
there is to try to get those people out. Yeah.

1629
01:37:00,459 --> 01:37:02,479
You know, I would say to these people, they should,

1630
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:06,279
you know, if they weren't around, there's probably some books,

1631
01:37:06,279 --> 01:37:11,229
some diaries, whatever, of the families of veterans from World

1632
01:37:11,229 --> 01:37:15,279
War II whose dads and uncles and brothers were, let's

1633
01:37:15,279 --> 01:37:20,009
say, like on the Bataan Death March. They didn't have

1634
01:37:20,009 --> 01:37:23,679
cell phones. Maybe they got a letter every two months

1635
01:37:23,679 --> 01:37:26,089
if they were lucky. They had no idea what was

1636
01:37:26,089 --> 01:37:29,749
going on with those guys. And that's horrible, but that's

1637
01:37:29,749 --> 01:37:33,049
what kind of war is about. And whatever these guys

1638
01:37:33,049 --> 01:37:36,679
are enduring on that aircraft carrier is literally a boat

1639
01:37:36,679 --> 01:37:40,159
ride compared to what those guys went through in ground

1640
01:37:40,159 --> 01:37:44,819
wars. 60 years ago. Yeah, war is not a vacation.

1641
01:37:45,519 --> 01:37:49,139
No. And obviously they think it should be like, oh,

1642
01:37:49,139 --> 01:37:51,979
no, they're not getting they're not getting their massages twice

1643
01:37:51,979 --> 01:37:54,459
a day. Like, well, this is what they signed up

1644
01:37:54,459 --> 01:37:57,229
for. The job sucks. I get it. That's why you

1645
01:37:57,229 --> 01:38:00,739
appreciate the people that serve. It is, of course, an

1646
01:38:00,739 --> 01:38:04,059
easy thing to do. It's not like, oh, you're going

1647
01:38:04,059 --> 01:38:06,349
to be on an aircraft carrier for six months or

1648
01:38:06,349 --> 01:38:08,489
however long it is. You know, that's going to be

1649
01:38:08,489 --> 01:38:11,079
fun. No, it's not. And in point of fact, if

1650
01:38:11,079 --> 01:38:15,299
you look on YouTube, there are multiple Carnival Cruises that

1651
01:38:15,299 --> 01:38:17,839
are worse than that carrier. I've seen a few of

1652
01:38:17,839 --> 01:38:21,009
those. That's a stone fact. It's the reason I've never

1653
01:38:21,009 --> 01:38:23,009
been on a cruise. I've seen some videos in our

1654
01:38:23,009 --> 01:38:26,129
life. I watched a documentary a while ago. I couldn't

1655
01:38:26,129 --> 01:38:28,739
stop laughing. It was called The Poop Cruise. What's the

1656
01:38:28,739 --> 01:38:31,449
like of fright? That's a big floating Ebola chain. I

1657
01:38:31,449 --> 01:38:33,999
don't know. No, no, no, no, no. This thing, for

1658
01:38:33,999 --> 01:38:36,509
some reason, I forget what the hell happened, but it

1659
01:38:36,509 --> 01:38:39,529
lost all power. And, of course, I think it was

1660
01:38:39,529 --> 01:38:44,059
Carnival. And so for like six days, it was just

1661
01:38:44,059 --> 01:38:47,689
adrift in the Gulf of America. And what happened when

1662
01:38:47,689 --> 01:38:50,519
the power went out, well, then the toilets don't flush

1663
01:38:50,519 --> 01:38:53,679
on ships. And the water's in flow. And I think

1664
01:38:53,679 --> 01:38:58,139
on two or three decks, there was like four inches

1665
01:38:58,139 --> 01:39:02,229
of sewage water with feces and peepee. It was just

1666
01:39:02,229 --> 01:39:05,619
beyond belief. And that, you know what, I guarantee you.

1667
01:39:05,999 --> 01:39:09,459
That cruise was much worse than that carrier's Enduring in

1668
01:39:09,459 --> 01:39:13,499
the Mideast right now. You know, that was you just

1669
01:39:13,499 --> 01:39:16,359
retelling something and not a clip, but Chris Wilson sent

1670
01:39:16,359 --> 01:39:23,259
this in and it fits. Depressing clip of the day.

1671
01:39:27,969 --> 01:39:30,939
Oh, whoa. Did somebody smack a puppy? I'm going to

1672
01:39:30,939 --> 01:39:32,929
get pissed if that's what the, what was that? I

1673
01:39:32,929 --> 01:39:34,869
don't know. I don't know. What was the, uh, I

1674
01:39:34,869 --> 01:39:37,939
think that was a gunshot at the end there. Ooh.

1675
01:39:38,239 --> 01:39:40,449
What, what, what, what makes that kind of noise in

1676
01:39:40,449 --> 01:39:44,479
the, uh, in Ozzy? I'm not sure. Oh. a little

1677
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:48,339
bit left here and then we got pegs if responding

1678
01:39:48,339 --> 01:39:51,029
her comment was met with applause from the audience now

1679
01:39:51,029 --> 01:39:54,269
navy leaders said that they're planning on sending the uss

1680
01:39:54,269 --> 01:39:57,989
theater roosevelt another aircraft carrier in the region to relieve

1681
01:39:57,989 --> 01:39:59,979
the lincoln but they couldn't give

1682
01:40:00,031 --> 01:40:03,251
a definitive timeline about when that would happen or when

1683
01:40:03,251 --> 01:40:06,481
the Lincoln would come home. But they did say that

1684
01:40:06,481 --> 01:40:10,151
they're committed to improving the conditions on the Lincoln while

1685
01:40:10,151 --> 01:40:12,861
they continue to fight in this war that has no

1686
01:40:12,861 --> 01:40:15,711
clear end in sight. Oh, there you go. No clear

1687
01:40:15,711 --> 01:40:18,771
end in sight of the war. It's a forever war.

1688
01:40:19,151 --> 01:40:22,411
Remember that. I pointed it out on the last episode,

1689
01:40:22,411 --> 01:40:26,091
and I know it doesn't mean anything to some people,

1690
01:40:26,091 --> 01:40:29,551
but there have been 18 service members who have given

1691
01:40:29,551 --> 01:40:32,941
their life because they care enough to fight for freedom

1692
01:40:32,941 --> 01:40:38,091
around the world. In the same time period, 180 people

1693
01:40:38,091 --> 01:40:41,231
murdered. In the city of Chicago. So when people try

1694
01:40:41,231 --> 01:40:45,381
to tell you. That the cost is too high. I

1695
01:40:45,381 --> 01:40:47,381
just want you to have the receipts, as the kids

1696
01:40:47,381 --> 01:40:53,561
say. Good point. This is from CBS KRCG, a Hegseth

1697
01:40:53,561 --> 01:40:58,411
reaction. Pentagon facing major questions tonight about reports of American

1698
01:40:58,411 --> 01:41:01,791
sailors jumping overboard from the USS Abraham Lincoln, which has

1699
01:41:01,791 --> 01:41:06,111
now been deployed in the Middle East for 266 days.

1700
01:41:06,121 --> 01:41:09,591
It's about nine months, nine months deployed. 250 of those

1701
01:41:09,591 --> 01:41:12,841
days, not even with a land stop. This is because

1702
01:41:12,841 --> 01:41:15,171
they are in the middle of Trump's war with Iran.

1703
01:41:15,451 --> 01:41:19,121
Trump's war with Iran, not our war, not the United

1704
01:41:19,121 --> 01:41:23,751
States war. It's Trump's war with Iran. And that war

1705
01:41:23,751 --> 01:41:28,331
is taking a toll on sailors aboard who've complained about

1706
01:41:28,331 --> 01:41:31,011
not having enough food. They've literally gone hungry. And we've

1707
01:41:31,011 --> 01:41:34,001
heard these complaints, the lack of basic necessities. We haven't

1708
01:41:34,001 --> 01:41:37,531
heard these complaints. Actually, madam, what we've heard is family

1709
01:41:37,531 --> 01:41:42,041
members allegedly recounting stories that they got firsthand. We have

1710
01:41:42,041 --> 01:41:44,631
not, as far as I can tell, and I looked.

1711
01:41:44,941 --> 01:41:48,351
There are no clips of service men from or service

1712
01:41:48,351 --> 01:41:54,291
women from the Lincoln giving a first hand account. Yeah.

1713
01:41:54,511 --> 01:41:57,961
These that includes toothpaste, deodorant, soap. And again, who wrote

1714
01:41:57,961 --> 01:42:03,131
this list? That's always about toothpaste, deodorant. So, yeah, interesting.

1715
01:42:03,831 --> 01:42:06,301
And all of those things add up with an incredibly

1716
01:42:06,301 --> 01:42:09,791
long deployment that keeps getting extended to dangerously low morale.

1717
01:42:10,251 --> 01:42:14,451
There are 5,000 American sailors on board. But tonight, the

1718
01:42:14,451 --> 01:42:18,221
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is denying the reports, saying they're

1719
01:42:18,221 --> 01:42:21,301
simply untrue. Listen to what he told Newsmax when questioned

1720
01:42:21,301 --> 01:42:24,511
about the reporting while traveling in Panama. Thank you. completely

1721
01:42:24,511 --> 01:42:29,891
misrepresented. Listen, we make sure at... Every ship, every crew,

1722
01:42:29,891 --> 01:42:33,061
every captain has everything we can provide them at every

1723
01:42:33,061 --> 01:42:36,121
single moment. Some deployments are longer than others, and I

1724
01:42:36,121 --> 01:42:42,091
have more respect and gratitude for those sailors than anybody.

1725
01:42:43,691 --> 01:42:47,591
This, again, is all just about making the average person

1726
01:42:47,591 --> 01:42:52,861
listening be against what's going on. And there are people

1727
01:42:52,861 --> 01:42:54,951
on both sides. I mean, that was one of the

1728
01:42:54,951 --> 01:42:58,111
places that people always like Darren and Larry, they agreed

1729
01:42:58,111 --> 01:42:59,791
too much where you were like, hey, no, I don't

1730
01:42:59,791 --> 01:43:02,861
think we should be there. No. Trump said no new

1731
01:43:02,861 --> 01:43:05,911
wars. And I'm the guy that's like, well, words mean

1732
01:43:05,911 --> 01:43:08,091
things. And it's really, is it a war? No, it's

1733
01:43:08,091 --> 01:43:11,431
a military action. I was that guy. You were that

1734
01:43:11,431 --> 01:43:14,011
guy. But I still think nothing's going to really change

1735
01:43:14,011 --> 01:43:18,451
when they pack up and leave. No, because there's only

1736
01:43:18,451 --> 01:43:23,211
two ways for there to be real change. Nuking is

1737
01:43:23,211 --> 01:43:27,491
one. Right. Well, blowing up. Pretty much everything in the

1738
01:43:27,491 --> 01:43:30,631
country away, whether it's or not. Yes. And they don't

1739
01:43:30,631 --> 01:43:33,411
want to do that. No. Or getting rid of the

1740
01:43:33,411 --> 01:43:38,611
current regime. If you don't do one of those. then

1741
01:43:38,611 --> 01:43:41,821
yeah, you're going to be right back more or less

1742
01:43:41,821 --> 01:43:44,971
where you started. According to Donald, he's already gotten rid

1743
01:43:44,971 --> 01:43:47,741
of two or three regimes. It seems like there's always

1744
01:43:47,741 --> 01:43:50,721
a backup regime. Those guys are prepared. They do keep

1745
01:43:50,721 --> 01:43:56,301
recycling. Yes. There's no question about it. You can never

1746
01:43:56,301 --> 01:43:59,351
tell the latest regime from the previous one. They all

1747
01:43:59,351 --> 01:44:01,801
look the same. It's very strange, isn't it? Yeah, but

1748
01:44:01,801 --> 01:44:03,911
you know who owns the Strait of Hormuz now, right?

1749
01:44:04,531 --> 01:44:10,091
Who does? After we finish defeating Iran, which is being

1750
01:44:10,091 --> 01:44:19,221
very badly defeated... Pretty soon I'll be declaring the Hormo

1751
01:44:19,221 --> 01:44:24,691
Strait, a territory of the United States. And again, he's

1752
01:44:24,691 --> 01:44:29,841
laughing while he says it. But what I want him

1753
01:44:29,841 --> 01:44:32,391
to do desperately, and I really mean this, Darren, I

1754
01:44:32,391 --> 01:44:34,751
want him to call that thing the Strait of America.

1755
01:44:35,871 --> 01:44:39,101
Put it on the maps. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's

1756
01:44:39,101 --> 01:44:40,071
all that really matters. Put it on the map. That's

1757
01:44:40,071 --> 01:44:44,371
all that matters. Yes. It's all naming rights. Yes. Not

1758
01:44:44,371 --> 01:44:48,811
wrong. Not wrong. Essentially, that's what we have the blockade.

1759
01:44:48,931 --> 01:44:52,431
And again, he then says, essentially. So not only did

1760
01:44:52,431 --> 01:44:56,121
he laugh through it to make it clear that it

1761
01:44:56,121 --> 01:44:59,141
was a joke. And then he's like, well, that's just

1762
01:44:59,141 --> 01:45:03,301
essentially what it is because we're controlling it. And people

1763
01:45:03,301 --> 01:45:06,341
are all going nuts like, oh, no, he's going to

1764
01:45:06,341 --> 01:45:11,191
go. No. Why don't you people pay attention? That's too

1765
01:45:11,191 --> 01:45:13,631
difficult. True. No ships get through unless we want them

1766
01:45:13,631 --> 01:45:18,931
to. And how about Venezuela? Venezuela was a one-day war.

1767
01:45:19,691 --> 01:45:22,041
And now we work great with them. We've taken in

1768
01:45:22,041 --> 01:45:26,371
millions and millions of barrels of oil. Which is true.

1769
01:45:26,371 --> 01:45:28,901
And then, of course, it's the cost of gas for

1770
01:45:28,901 --> 01:45:31,241
you to pay a tiny little bit more for your

1771
01:45:31,241 --> 01:45:34,811
gasoline. Just remember, you're doing it so that a very

1772
01:45:34,811 --> 01:45:38,841
evil country cannot have a country. Really, it's the number

1773
01:45:38,841 --> 01:45:41,961
one state sponsor of terror in the world. We don't

1774
01:45:41,961 --> 01:45:44,291
want to have them have a nuclear weapon. So remember

1775
01:45:44,291 --> 01:45:46,871
that when you have to pay a little bit more,

1776
01:45:46,871 --> 01:45:51,671
you're at $4. It's okay. I mean, I'll never apologize.

1777
01:45:51,871 --> 01:45:54,191
I did the right thing. But you could, you know,

1778
01:45:54,191 --> 01:45:59,111
if you didn't have... You'd be a... I mean, I

1779
01:45:59,111 --> 01:46:02,191
had it down to below $2 in many states, but

1780
01:46:02,191 --> 01:46:06,201
California can't include because they keep taxing, taxing, taxing. Yeah,

1781
01:46:06,201 --> 01:46:10,591
California keeps blowing up, up, up no matter what. Yes.

1782
01:46:10,591 --> 01:46:13,411
And for the lefties that are all like, oh, no,

1783
01:46:13,411 --> 01:46:17,481
we're paying too much for gasoline. Well, let me remind

1784
01:46:17,481 --> 01:46:21,401
you. During Joe Biden, here's an MSNBC back when it

1785
01:46:21,401 --> 01:46:25,911
was still MSNBC. Andrea Mitchell. It's a potent one, but

1786
01:46:25,911 --> 01:46:29,491
I really do think in talking to members of Congress

1787
01:46:29,491 --> 01:46:33,001
that they now see the politics right now, and it

1788
01:46:33,001 --> 01:46:36,391
may not last, that the American people are behind this.

1789
01:46:37,131 --> 01:46:41,941
And. more likely are willing to take a hit at

1790
01:46:41,941 --> 01:46:46,951
the pump. I don't think it's been sold adequately. Well,

1791
01:46:46,951 --> 01:46:49,991
if it means not bringing war here, right? Like, that's

1792
01:46:49,991 --> 01:46:52,501
another way to message this, I might argue. Yeah, and

1793
01:46:52,501 --> 01:46:55,191
Putin's price hike is a great way to message it.

1794
01:46:55,691 --> 01:46:59,231
So they were fine. The Democrats were fine, including their

1795
01:46:59,231 --> 01:47:04,561
talking heads, because of the war in Ukraine. Ukraine. And

1796
01:47:04,561 --> 01:47:07,531
it was Putin's price hike, not Joey's. Right. Never forget

1797
01:47:07,531 --> 01:47:10,871
that. So why is this the Trump price hike and

1798
01:47:10,871 --> 01:47:13,621
not the Mueller's? Who knows? And I just don't remember

1799
01:47:13,621 --> 01:47:16,571
how much oil we get from Ukraine or Russia. I

1800
01:47:16,571 --> 01:47:18,831
don't think any. But somehow it was Putin's price hike.

1801
01:47:18,951 --> 01:47:20,931
I don't know. I couldn't make sense of that, Darren.

1802
01:47:21,251 --> 01:47:24,591
What's wrong with me? But it shows you exactly the

1803
01:47:24,591 --> 01:47:29,851
insanity of. because they're going to, it all is political.

1804
01:47:29,851 --> 01:47:31,891
It's not about giving you the facts who, why, what,

1805
01:47:31,951 --> 01:47:34,841
where, well, who, why, what, when, how, whatever they are

1806
01:47:34,841 --> 01:47:38,571
just giving you the politics. They don't care. And this

1807
01:47:38,571 --> 01:47:42,031
was okay. That little blurb in there. Well, they're willing

1808
01:47:42,031 --> 01:47:46,411
to pay more at the pump to keep the war.

1809
01:47:46,411 --> 01:47:50,571
Um, over there you know in ukraine yes what about

1810
01:47:50,571 --> 01:47:53,801
in iran when you want to keep the war out

1811
01:47:53,801 --> 01:47:57,251
of your uh You know, out of your own little

1812
01:47:57,251 --> 01:48:00,181
area, I would think that would be the case, but

1813
01:48:00,181 --> 01:48:03,841
no. Yeah, but you know, everybody loves Zelensky, especially Ben

1814
01:48:03,841 --> 01:48:07,641
Stiller. So that's who matters. Do you remember that there

1815
01:48:07,641 --> 01:48:11,351
was a video of Ben meeting Zelensky? It was hysterical.

1816
01:48:11,351 --> 01:48:15,201
Zelensky's standing in the middle of this pretty large room,

1817
01:48:15,201 --> 01:48:17,881
and they led Ben through a door on the side

1818
01:48:17,881 --> 01:48:20,761
like a hamster coming out of a cage. And as

1819
01:48:20,761 --> 01:48:23,881
he walks across the room to greet Zelensky, he's got

1820
01:48:23,881 --> 01:48:26,371
his both hands in front of him in the prayer

1821
01:48:26,371 --> 01:48:29,431
position. I don't remember that. Maybe I didn't see it.

1822
01:48:29,891 --> 01:48:33,701
It was bizarre. It was like, what is this? You

1823
01:48:33,701 --> 01:48:35,911
know, the bows and scrapes. He didn't kiss his hand,

1824
01:48:35,911 --> 01:48:38,061
but I was expecting him to do that. There were

1825
01:48:38,061 --> 01:48:42,041
a lot of bizarre things. Yeah. Yeah. Including here, we've

1826
01:48:42,041 --> 01:48:43,921
got a boots on the ground, but this is a

1827
01:48:43,921 --> 01:48:46,571
wait before you get to boots on the ground. There's

1828
01:48:46,571 --> 01:48:48,681
one more Iran thing I'd love to walk you through

1829
01:48:48,681 --> 01:48:51,621
real quick. Sure. Before we leave Iran. And this this

1830
01:48:51,621 --> 01:48:54,651
just made me laugh. And maybe Trump should know about

1831
01:48:54,651 --> 01:49:00,081
this. The headline was dig it. Iran's black widow. faces

1832
01:49:00,081 --> 01:49:05,351
multiple death sentences after gruesomely killing at least 10 10

1833
01:49:05,351 --> 01:49:08,031
of her ex-husbands oh she's got to be a very

1834
01:49:08,031 --> 01:49:12,151
attractive woman then you wouldn't believe it wow really frightening

1835
01:49:12,151 --> 01:49:15,891
oh my god she's so scary looking why 10 guys

1836
01:49:15,891 --> 01:49:20,871
why how did she catch 10 dudes Well, I think

1837
01:49:20,871 --> 01:49:23,671
they don't give all the details, but I think she's

1838
01:49:23,671 --> 01:49:28,041
56. Her name is Kulthum Akbari. 56 confessed to much

1839
01:49:28,041 --> 01:49:32,131
of the horrific body count, the Manzandaran Province Public Relations

1840
01:49:32,131 --> 01:49:35,921
Office told Iranian state media last Sunday. They mentioned one

1841
01:49:35,921 --> 01:49:38,621
of her victims, the latest one, he was 82. So

1842
01:49:38,621 --> 01:49:40,841
the guy was probably not 70. I mean, she's not

1843
01:49:40,841 --> 01:49:43,621
seeing that very well. But I mean, still, that's a

1844
01:49:43,621 --> 01:49:46,341
hell of a run. And she's a weapon in her

1845
01:49:46,341 --> 01:49:50,061
own right, really. I mean, that's quite a stack of

1846
01:49:50,061 --> 01:49:54,461
bodies she's knocked over. And they said the motive was

1847
01:49:54,461 --> 01:49:58,691
greed and that she collected gold, cash and other dowry

1848
01:49:58,691 --> 01:49:59,991
wealth. Yeah.

1849
01:50:00,123 --> 01:50:04,343
From her victims. Okay. And what was her method? Well,

1850
01:50:04,343 --> 01:50:07,393
what a gold in the favor. Well, what she did

1851
01:50:07,393 --> 01:50:10,653
was something, you know, one of my guilty pleasures with

1852
01:50:10,653 --> 01:50:12,843
my wife used to be watching like 48 hours and

1853
01:50:12,843 --> 01:50:16,503
all these murder mystery things. And so many times these

1854
01:50:16,503 --> 01:50:22,323
women would kill their husbands by feeding them. Um. breakfast

1855
01:50:22,323 --> 01:50:25,633
drinks like orange juice or jello shots that were laced

1856
01:50:25,633 --> 01:50:29,583
with antifreeze right And it would take a long time

1857
01:50:29,583 --> 01:50:32,053
for these guys to die. They'd be sick. Oh, Lord,

1858
01:50:32,053 --> 01:50:33,713
what's wrong with nobody could figure it out? And one

1859
01:50:33,713 --> 01:50:36,083
day they woke up dead. And that's pretty much what

1860
01:50:36,083 --> 01:50:39,193
she was doing. She said that her last victim was

1861
01:50:39,193 --> 01:50:42,413
in 2023. His name was, I'm going to try to

1862
01:50:42,413 --> 01:50:49,113
pronounce his name. I think it's pronounced, um, He had

1863
01:50:49,113 --> 01:50:54,813
complained to family members that Akhbari had been forcing him

1864
01:50:54,813 --> 01:50:59,173
to take medications and died shortly thereafter. So, you know,

1865
01:50:59,173 --> 01:51:02,283
if Trump wants to get the next regime knocked off,

1866
01:51:02,283 --> 01:51:05,603
maybe he should turn her loose on them. Also, if

1867
01:51:05,603 --> 01:51:10,053
somebody's forcing you to take medications, run! Run. It's not

1868
01:51:10,053 --> 01:51:14,313
a good idea. My favorite one of the stories that

1869
01:51:14,313 --> 01:51:16,783
was not too long ago, it was an Asian couple

1870
01:51:16,783 --> 01:51:20,843
where allegedly the husband then told the wife because they

1871
01:51:20,843 --> 01:51:23,883
were having a problem with some kind of credit. It

1872
01:51:23,883 --> 01:51:27,133
may have been ants. Like, oh, we'll mix this in

1873
01:51:27,133 --> 01:51:31,173
a coffee mug or whatever. And then we had her

1874
01:51:31,173 --> 01:51:34,903
on video doing that and then claim that she was

1875
01:51:34,903 --> 01:51:38,103
poisoning him to try to put her in jail over

1876
01:51:38,103 --> 01:51:41,393
the whole bit. And the wife's like, no, he told

1877
01:51:41,393 --> 01:51:43,403
me to put the poison into the mug. At which

1878
01:51:43,403 --> 01:51:46,123
point? Who do you believe? Yeah. Yes. Could be either

1879
01:51:46,123 --> 01:51:49,363
way. Could just be somebody smart enough. That's like, well,

1880
01:51:49,363 --> 01:51:52,583
okay. I was putting poison into his coffee mug. Oh,

1881
01:51:52,583 --> 01:51:54,503
he told me to do it. Cause we, we had,

1882
01:51:54,503 --> 01:51:58,363
we had ants. Good ants. I don't want ants. You

1883
01:51:58,363 --> 01:52:00,833
do not want ants. And just a quick AI story

1884
01:52:00,833 --> 01:52:04,163
before we have a boots on the ground. Cause this,

1885
01:52:04,163 --> 01:52:10,033
if you fly, you're, This is terrifying what's going on

1886
01:52:10,033 --> 01:52:13,693
in Canada. From the outside, it's pretty clear. This is

1887
01:52:13,693 --> 01:52:17,293
not the air traffic control tower you're used to. Because

1888
01:52:17,293 --> 01:52:21,283
controllers are elsewhere, maybe even in another city. You can

1889
01:52:21,283 --> 01:52:24,303
start seeing movement, so it helps our air traffic controllers

1890
01:52:24,303 --> 01:52:27,023
and our traffic services staff be able to pick out

1891
01:52:27,023 --> 01:52:29,233
the things that are relevant to them. NAV Canada says

1892
01:52:29,233 --> 01:52:32,473
this is the future. Remote air traffic control with new

1893
01:52:32,473 --> 01:52:34,623
high-tech features. It's the same level of service that we

1894
01:52:34,623 --> 01:52:37,823
end up providing. Essentially, all we're doing is we're taking

1895
01:52:37,823 --> 01:52:41,413
the visual view of someone looking out a window replacing

1896
01:52:41,413 --> 01:52:44,973
that with a digital view onto screens. Super exciting time

1897
01:52:44,973 --> 01:52:49,063
obviously. Ottawa's Kongsberg Geospatial designed the system and says it

1898
01:52:49,063 --> 01:52:52,593
will provide access to services in remote community just as

1899
01:52:52,593 --> 01:52:55,823
it has in the home of its parent company, Norway.

1900
01:52:55,823 --> 01:52:59,923
As we're seeing the development an implementation of ai into

1901
01:52:59,923 --> 01:53:03,583
more and more technology this is another great example where

1902
01:53:03,583 --> 01:53:06,263
the system can continue to learn you know what am

1903
01:53:06,263 --> 01:53:08,903
i looking at what are the aircrafts what are the

1904
01:53:08,903 --> 01:53:12,613
weather conditions what could go wrong larry it's we're going

1905
01:53:12,613 --> 01:53:15,963
to take the the tower from your local airport yeah

1906
01:53:15,963 --> 01:53:20,643
and we're going to consolidate it and put it Now,

1907
01:53:20,643 --> 01:53:27,333
I understand putting some of these tools into effect, but

1908
01:53:27,333 --> 01:53:33,213
moving people to a remote location means really bad things

1909
01:53:33,213 --> 01:53:38,893
can happen. I understand the staffing issue. I think we've

1910
01:53:38,893 --> 01:53:41,753
got people that are responding to this. Travelers at the

1911
01:53:41,753 --> 01:53:45,543
Ottawa airport aren't so sure. Don't like it. I would

1912
01:53:45,543 --> 01:53:48,873
rather people looking out a window. The more you put

1913
01:53:48,873 --> 01:53:52,783
stuff like this in, the more it screws up. All

1914
01:53:52,783 --> 01:53:57,313
right? You need the human factor, regardless. Hamilton Airport with

1915
01:53:57,313 --> 01:54:01,273
300,000 travelers a year will be the first fully remote

1916
01:54:01,273 --> 01:54:04,813
location, and those air traffic controllers have been asked to

1917
01:54:04,813 --> 01:54:08,713
move to Kingston. The union is concerned they might leave

1918
01:54:08,713 --> 01:54:13,263
the field instead. And attrition is only, I say quote-unquote

1919
01:54:13,263 --> 01:54:17,233
only, you know, 10 or 20 percent We can't afford

1920
01:54:17,233 --> 01:54:19,623
to lose a single air traffic controller right now in

1921
01:54:19,623 --> 01:54:23,003
Canada. NAV Canada says this change could be part of

1922
01:54:23,003 --> 01:54:27,213
the solution. When fully operational, up to 15 airports could

1923
01:54:27,213 --> 01:54:30,543
be remotely monitored from Kingston. It provides more flexibility in

1924
01:54:30,543 --> 01:54:33,633
our staffing in the long run. NAV Canada says that

1925
01:54:33,633 --> 01:54:37,133
it won't be moving to Hamilton, until a year of

1926
01:54:37,133 --> 01:54:41,263
shadow testing in Kingston shows no possible issues and until

1927
01:54:41,263 --> 01:54:45,313
all regulatory hurdles are cleared. With the stakes for all

1928
01:54:45,313 --> 01:54:49,243
involved so high, whether this comes to an airport near

1929
01:54:49,243 --> 01:54:52,543
you remains up in the air. I see what you

1930
01:54:52,543 --> 01:54:54,823
did there up in the air, up in the air.

1931
01:54:54,883 --> 01:54:58,053
Now that's shadow testing. Does that include airliners with real

1932
01:54:58,053 --> 01:55:01,963
people on board? Well, of course, because what this would

1933
01:55:01,963 --> 01:55:05,963
be is you're going to have the remote unit monitoring

1934
01:55:06,663 --> 01:55:11,733
and doing their job. Yeah. Not actually communicating with the

1935
01:55:11,733 --> 01:55:17,003
airplanes, but having this be a simulation kind of. But

1936
01:55:17,003 --> 01:55:19,263
one, I don't think a year is a long enough

1937
01:55:19,263 --> 01:55:24,183
time to understand everything that can possibly go wrong. With

1938
01:55:24,183 --> 01:55:26,933
that said, I don't know if anybody's still just literally

1939
01:55:26,933 --> 01:55:30,663
looking out a window. These are usually all. No. On

1940
01:55:30,663 --> 01:55:38,483
instrumentation, which I understand you can go remotely. It kind

1941
01:55:38,483 --> 01:55:42,303
of reminds me like what MLB did when they started

1942
01:55:42,303 --> 01:55:45,083
going to New York for certain plays like, oh, no,

1943
01:55:45,083 --> 01:55:47,083
we need to we need to do a video replay.

1944
01:55:47,183 --> 01:55:50,943
Let's get New York on the phone. This is interesting

1945
01:55:50,943 --> 01:55:55,883
because I saw a story earlier today that the biggest

1946
01:55:55,883 --> 01:56:00,863
siphon of current air traffic controllers are video game developers.

1947
01:56:01,223 --> 01:56:04,273
They like the way these guys operate, and they're the

1948
01:56:04,273 --> 01:56:07,663
ones that are taking them off of the flight towers,

1949
01:56:07,663 --> 01:56:10,813
which is kind of kooky. So there you go. It's

1950
01:56:10,813 --> 01:56:14,603
a tie-in. It is a very, one, it's a very

1951
01:56:14,603 --> 01:56:20,073
stressful job. There's no question about it. The more I've

1952
01:56:20,073 --> 01:56:26,153
been watching a few different channels that show the problems

1953
01:56:26,153 --> 01:56:29,533
that have been going on in major airports around the

1954
01:56:29,533 --> 01:56:33,683
country and around the world and, It's amazing what some

1955
01:56:33,683 --> 01:56:38,093
of these controllers can do and pilots. It's amazing when

1956
01:56:38,093 --> 01:56:42,073
they totally are able to keep their cool, even though

1957
01:56:42,073 --> 01:56:47,243
they know the situation that they're in is not very

1958
01:56:47,243 --> 01:56:53,053
good. With that said, you want to keep a human

1959
01:56:53,053 --> 01:56:58,523
being If the lines get cut between the airport that's

1960
01:56:58,523 --> 01:57:03,933
being serviced and the remote location. Now, again, I understand

1961
01:57:03,933 --> 01:57:07,353
adding a bunch of new equipment to a local, but

1962
01:57:07,353 --> 01:57:10,453
I do the tower that's there. But when you try

1963
01:57:10,453 --> 01:57:14,283
to take everything and move it remote. That line somehow

1964
01:57:14,283 --> 01:57:17,743
gets cut. You're going to have big problems. Sure. But

1965
01:57:17,743 --> 01:57:19,513
of course, what they're going to want is just pure

1966
01:57:19,513 --> 01:57:23,213
AI. That'll be the next. Yeah. How? How will run

1967
01:57:23,213 --> 01:57:27,373
all? It'll just sound like watching the AI allegedly. Who's

1968
01:57:27,373 --> 01:57:29,483
going to fall asleep, just like humans that are in

1969
01:57:29,483 --> 01:57:32,013
the car. Once these people that get their Teslas or

1970
01:57:32,013 --> 01:57:34,763
the self-driving cars and they're just going along and they're

1971
01:57:34,763 --> 01:57:36,893
like, oh, wow, it's been I tried this for two

1972
01:57:36,893 --> 01:57:39,293
weeks and it didn't hit anybody. So now I'm just

1973
01:57:39,293 --> 01:57:42,293
going to relax. And why not? That's when it drives

1974
01:57:42,293 --> 01:57:44,593
you right off the bridge into the Gulf of America,

1975
01:57:44,593 --> 01:57:49,163
baby. Or the Strait of America. Yes. We have a

1976
01:57:49,163 --> 01:57:52,763
boots on the ground from Sir Darius Unity, Knight of

1977
01:57:52,763 --> 01:57:56,323
the Sand Hill People. He says in the morning, thank

1978
01:57:56,323 --> 01:57:59,133
you for your courage. Long live Mr. Bud's kill as

1979
01:57:59,133 --> 01:58:02,783
well as his legacy. Amen to that. And he said

1980
01:58:02,783 --> 01:58:04,983
the best podcast in the universe. And they put no

1981
01:58:04,983 --> 01:58:08,973
agenda in parentheses. Thank you, sir. Darius unity discuss data

1982
01:58:08,973 --> 01:58:12,793
centers on Thursday's episode. And I remembered my pops and

1983
01:58:12,793 --> 01:58:14,833
I did some work on them back in the day

1984
01:58:14,833 --> 01:58:19,393
as union electricians. We were in the National Capital Region

1985
01:58:19,393 --> 01:58:22,713
with Local 26, and I was an apprentice primarily on

1986
01:58:22,713 --> 01:58:26,463
the fire alarm crew. I worked with fellow apprentices in

1987
01:58:26,463 --> 01:58:31,013
Charlotte, North Carolina, as an unofficial member of the Local

1988
01:58:31,013 --> 01:58:34,873
379 as well. This very spring that just passed to

1989
01:58:34,873 --> 01:58:39,583
gather even more treasure slash intel for Gitmo Nation. First,

1990
01:58:39,583 --> 01:58:42,493
what I recall from my recent experience, the data centers

1991
01:58:42,493 --> 01:58:45,703
are very mums the word as of late. Construction workers

1992
01:58:45,703 --> 01:58:48,293
must, if I recall, turn in their phones at the

1993
01:58:48,293 --> 01:58:52,133
beginning of the workday or to prevent unauthorized pictures or

1994
01:58:52,133 --> 01:58:55,553
info from being made public. Or more plausibly, maybe it

1995
01:58:55,553 --> 01:58:58,323
was that they couldn't use their phones while on the

1996
01:58:58,323 --> 01:59:02,233
job site. Yeah, they're very. Yeah. sensitive about that stuff

1997
01:59:02,233 --> 01:59:05,003
getting out he says if they do they risk getting

1998
01:59:05,003 --> 01:59:08,673
an immediate pinky slash pink slip now for what my

1999
01:59:08,673 --> 01:59:11,863
pops and i four men told me from his experience

2000
01:59:11,863 --> 01:59:16,303
in august or so of 2023 the data centers run

2001
01:59:16,303 --> 01:59:20,503
24 7 that they do they have beefed up slash

2002
01:59:20,503 --> 01:59:24,993
arm security and they lose out on at least a

2003
01:59:24,993 --> 01:59:28,153
million bucks per minute for each and every minute that

2004
01:59:28,153 --> 01:59:31,963
they have shut down operations, especially if it's due to

2005
01:59:31,963 --> 01:59:36,423
emergency repairs. And I think that's a little high, but

2006
01:59:36,423 --> 01:59:40,503
the numbers that I've seen put it as possibly 20,000

2007
01:59:40,503 --> 01:59:44,783
plus per second or per minute, which adds up. fairly

2008
01:59:44,783 --> 01:59:47,743
quickly if you're out for an hour i mean our

2009
01:59:47,743 --> 01:59:51,323
power was out here for over 24 hours so you

2010
01:59:51,323 --> 01:59:56,973
know if you're losing 20 000 plus per minute that

2011
01:59:56,973 --> 01:59:59,923
is no joke no he says we dealt extremely

2012
02:00:00,019 --> 02:00:04,219
with long, heavy, and thickly protected cables and wiring. Oh,

2013
02:00:04,219 --> 02:00:06,949
yeah, you have to have shielding on that, especially when

2014
02:00:06,949 --> 02:00:12,039
the all-hands call went out randomly. We were often somewhat

2015
02:00:12,039 --> 02:00:17,169
confused regarding exactly what our general contactors, clients needed or

2016
02:00:17,169 --> 02:00:20,249
wanted from us. Be it in the specs for material

2017
02:00:20,249 --> 02:00:24,069
that we were installing or in the necessary tasks in

2018
02:00:24,069 --> 02:00:27,529
general, which is also interesting when you're like, well, why

2019
02:00:27,529 --> 02:00:31,089
are we doing this? You have to wonder exactly what's

2020
02:00:31,089 --> 02:00:34,799
going on. He said, lastly, we had to install smoke

2021
02:00:34,799 --> 02:00:39,389
detectors approximately every six feet. And if memory serves, they

2022
02:00:39,389 --> 02:00:41,499
had to be drilled into the columns of the structure

2023
02:00:41,499 --> 02:00:45,199
holding up the raised flooring. Yeah, these things are built,

2024
02:00:45,199 --> 02:00:48,409
so there's a lot of wires going around. Oh, they're

2025
02:00:48,409 --> 02:00:52,189
very creepy looking things. And I can guarantee that as

2026
02:00:52,189 --> 02:00:55,999
we speak, there are probably half a dozen studios in.

2027
02:00:56,279 --> 02:00:59,809
with scripts on their desk with titles like, uh, data

2028
02:00:59,809 --> 02:01:03,989
center doom, you know, there's definitely, I mean, it's, it's,

2029
02:01:03,989 --> 02:01:07,089
it's just rife with, uh, with terror, these things. And

2030
02:01:07,089 --> 02:01:09,189
somebody's going to make a buck off that. Or they're

2031
02:01:09,189 --> 02:01:10,759
going to lose a buck. I mean, there's a lot.

2032
02:01:11,039 --> 02:01:13,819
Well, that too, yeah. Probably get to this more on

2033
02:01:13,819 --> 02:01:17,419
the next show as far as the amount of money.

2034
02:01:17,519 --> 02:01:19,759
A lot of people think it's turning into a bubble.

2035
02:01:19,899 --> 02:01:23,019
A lot of people don't think any of the... billions

2036
02:01:23,019 --> 02:01:26,629
or trillions of dollars that are being raised for these

2037
02:01:26,629 --> 02:01:30,759
data centers are actually going to pay off. What does

2038
02:01:30,759 --> 02:01:32,849
Harvard say about that? Is there a way to play

2039
02:01:32,849 --> 02:01:35,399
that and short these things and make a fortune? Short

2040
02:01:35,399 --> 02:01:39,929
certain companies. Yeah. We all know that there are memory

2041
02:01:39,929 --> 02:01:44,179
shortages. It's amazing that memory that was worth like nothing

2042
02:01:44,179 --> 02:01:46,289
two or three years ago, all of a sudden people

2043
02:01:46,289 --> 02:01:49,819
want it because it's still memory. Yeah. And the chip

2044
02:01:49,819 --> 02:01:55,759
manufacturers can't keep up. But as we've talked about here.

2045
02:01:56,469 --> 02:02:02,199
The reality is, as this AI stuff continues, more and

2046
02:02:02,199 --> 02:02:07,099
more will be brought into the home. It will be

2047
02:02:07,099 --> 02:02:12,499
brought into small businesses. You can run some very capable

2048
02:02:12,499 --> 02:02:17,289
models on hardware that cost money. you know, in the

2049
02:02:17,289 --> 02:02:20,799
$10,000 range, which for an average person, they're not going

2050
02:02:20,799 --> 02:02:23,549
to pay that to play, you know, chat GPT and

2051
02:02:23,549 --> 02:02:27,959
ask it questions. No, but for any company, you know,

2052
02:02:28,819 --> 02:02:33,449
Even small businesses. Sure. That is a small bill to

2053
02:02:33,449 --> 02:02:37,659
pay rather than paying 50 or 100 bucks a month

2054
02:02:37,659 --> 02:02:42,099
for your AI in the cloud and risking your corporate

2055
02:02:42,099 --> 02:02:45,479
data. And these things are already to the point to

2056
02:02:45,479 --> 02:02:50,309
where they're getting into your own business. location. So these

2057
02:02:50,309 --> 02:02:52,199
data centers, what are they going to be used for?

2058
02:02:52,199 --> 02:02:54,659
As we talked about with Adam on the last show,

2059
02:02:54,659 --> 02:02:58,159
it'd probably be a lot of pickleball courts or something.

2060
02:02:59,099 --> 02:03:02,629
The boots on the ground continues. Apologies for wasting so

2061
02:03:02,629 --> 02:03:05,629
much time and getting this to y'all dovetailed with the

2062
02:03:05,629 --> 02:03:08,589
following. My deep, sincere regrets and remorse that I haven't

2063
02:03:08,589 --> 02:03:11,659
been an associate executive producer in well over a year.

2064
02:03:12,019 --> 02:03:14,889
It breaks my heart. The Manhattan's he quotes in a

2065
02:03:14,889 --> 02:03:17,699
similar manner. My heart was shattered at the passing of

2066
02:03:17,699 --> 02:03:21,419
the late, great Mr. John C. Dvorak. And he says,

2067
02:03:21,419 --> 02:03:23,159
if y'all would be ever so kind as to mention,

2068
02:03:23,159 --> 02:03:25,219
read at least some of this. It was good information,

2069
02:03:25,219 --> 02:03:28,799
my friend. Yes. Live to tape episode, no agenda. I'd

2070
02:03:28,799 --> 02:03:32,919
be deeply grateful, thankful, appreciative. No, thank you. He says,

2071
02:03:32,919 --> 02:03:35,919
love you. Mean it. Little girl. Yay. And love is

2072
02:03:35,919 --> 02:03:40,119
lit. Bless no agenda nation always and forever. God bless.

2073
02:03:40,379 --> 02:03:44,409
Keep us all to stay blessed, free and dangerous. Well,

2074
02:03:44,409 --> 02:03:46,159
that's the only way we know how to do it.

2075
02:03:46,579 --> 02:03:49,469
Indeed. And we love our boots on the ground. I

2076
02:03:49,469 --> 02:03:51,639
put out a thing on X. I'm like, you want

2077
02:03:51,639 --> 02:03:53,669
to be a podcast? Everybody's like, are you giving up

2078
02:03:53,669 --> 02:03:56,629
Larry's spot? I'm like, no, we're looking for people that

2079
02:03:56,629 --> 02:03:58,599
can do boots on the ground. Cause while I love

2080
02:03:58,599 --> 02:04:02,529
boots on the ground as the one-eyed podcaster, I'm Reading

2081
02:04:02,529 --> 02:04:07,679
is sometimes a bigger pain in the behind than not.

2082
02:04:07,779 --> 02:04:09,999
And we would just like to hear your voice for

2083
02:04:09,999 --> 02:04:14,949
people that have the ability to record audio. I'm trying

2084
02:04:14,949 --> 02:04:21,399
to get a list of no agenda producers with what

2085
02:04:21,399 --> 02:04:26,129
your. expertise lies in like here. We just had our

2086
02:04:26,129 --> 02:04:29,339
AI dude. Like, so when the next AI story comes,

2087
02:04:29,359 --> 02:04:30,879
I can reach out and be like, Hey, this is

2088
02:04:30,879 --> 02:04:34,359
the story. What's, what's your take on it? Be of

2089
02:04:34,359 --> 02:04:36,659
the perfect reporter. Like, Hey, what do you make of

2090
02:04:36,659 --> 02:04:39,639
this? And we can get the boots on the ground

2091
02:04:39,639 --> 02:04:42,739
from people in a way that, Where people can hear

2092
02:04:42,739 --> 02:04:47,419
your lovely voices rather than listening to the overly radio

2093
02:04:47,419 --> 02:04:50,929
voices of Larry and Derry all day. Is that what

2094
02:04:50,929 --> 02:04:54,869
they say about us? Oh, dear. No. They sound too

2095
02:04:54,869 --> 02:04:58,899
good. Well, I... Saw a letter that came in that

2096
02:04:58,899 --> 02:05:01,059
Adam Ford did that you kind of sound like a

2097
02:05:01,059 --> 02:05:04,779
beatnik poet, which. Yeah, I like that. That's kind of

2098
02:05:04,779 --> 02:05:07,719
cool. You kind of have that thing going on. Hmm.

2099
02:05:08,439 --> 02:05:10,799
Uh, let's get the glove story. And I think that

2100
02:05:10,799 --> 02:05:13,639
was one that, uh, the glove story, the gloves, baby.

2101
02:05:13,719 --> 02:05:17,309
Yeah. The gloves are interesting and they're dividing people. And

2102
02:05:17,309 --> 02:05:21,009
of course that means they're dividing the media. This is,

2103
02:05:21,009 --> 02:05:25,349
uh, Something that's been around for a while, which I

2104
02:05:25,349 --> 02:05:28,749
think most of the stories are missing out on. They've

2105
02:05:28,749 --> 02:05:36,909
been using these in jails. They're basically gloves with batteries

2106
02:05:36,909 --> 02:05:42,799
that produce a shock much less than a taser would.

2107
02:05:43,419 --> 02:05:48,359
Yes, this is from a Kentucky jail employee showing off

2108
02:05:48,359 --> 02:05:51,499
the gloves, which I think is a good primer. Basically,

2109
02:05:51,499 --> 02:05:53,489
you put it on just like like any glove, you

2110
02:05:53,489 --> 02:05:56,449
know, right now they're off. I can touch it. You

2111
02:05:56,449 --> 02:05:59,099
know, they strap on and basically you got a power

2112
02:05:59,099 --> 02:06:02,139
button that you hit. It lights up and then it's

2113
02:06:02,139 --> 02:06:05,019
active. At that point in time. So I can touch

2114
02:06:05,019 --> 02:06:07,439
anywhere on my body if I was to grab hold

2115
02:06:07,439 --> 02:06:09,469
of my hand, which I'm not going to do. I've

2116
02:06:09,469 --> 02:06:11,119
already experienced it. I don't want to put myself through

2117
02:06:11,119 --> 02:06:14,079
it. It doesn't feel the best. Yeah, you don't want

2118
02:06:14,079 --> 02:06:17,649
to shock yourself. I'll bet some will. There's going to

2119
02:06:17,649 --> 02:06:19,839
be glove fetish freaks that will be buying, you know.

2120
02:06:20,049 --> 02:06:22,299
Taking these right off the shelves fast as they can,

2121
02:06:22,299 --> 02:06:24,889
no doubt. And the interesting thing was, as he just

2122
02:06:24,889 --> 02:06:29,139
pointed out, it needs to make contact with skin, which

2123
02:06:29,139 --> 02:06:31,719
means now people can just go head to toe in

2124
02:06:31,719 --> 02:06:35,869
like lycra or whatever that material is. Yeah. That would

2125
02:06:35,869 --> 02:06:38,639
probably then insulate you from this because it's such a

2126
02:06:38,639 --> 02:06:43,799
horrible, dangerous weapon. Mm hmm. It doesn't incapacitate you, but

2127
02:06:43,799 --> 02:06:49,949
I've been exposed to this probably 10 to 15 times

2128
02:06:49,949 --> 02:06:54,079
myself. And it's, I guess, the best way to describe

2129
02:06:54,079 --> 02:06:57,179
it, I mean, it basically takes all your focus off

2130
02:06:57,179 --> 02:06:59,699
everything that's going to basically where you're getting grabbed at.

2131
02:06:59,759 --> 02:07:01,039
And then as soon as you let go, it's gone.

2132
02:07:01,519 --> 02:07:04,339
There's no marks that's left or anything like that. It

2133
02:07:04,339 --> 02:07:06,409
lets you get the control of the person to where

2134
02:07:06,409 --> 02:07:09,319
you can get them in a safer location and actually

2135
02:07:09,319 --> 02:07:13,759
try to gain compliance. And we've had the compliance gloves

2136
02:07:13,759 --> 02:07:16,399
now for over. That is a great word. We love

2137
02:07:16,399 --> 02:07:22,899
compliance. Compliance gloves. It's always about compliance. Always, yeah. Okay,

2138
02:07:22,899 --> 02:07:26,269
that's probably a good art idea. Compliance gloves, make them

2139
02:07:26,269 --> 02:07:34,699
snappy. And basically, it has been... Probably one of the

2140
02:07:35,399 --> 02:07:37,499
Probably one of the best tools we added. One thing

2141
02:07:37,499 --> 02:07:41,399
about, and I'll even show you, one thing about the

2142
02:07:41,399 --> 02:07:44,959
gloves themselves is that... They have a button on them.

2143
02:07:45,099 --> 02:07:48,299
And again, it doesn't incapacitate a person like a taser.

2144
02:07:48,719 --> 02:07:51,019
I'm sure several people have seen taser videos where you

2145
02:07:51,019 --> 02:07:53,769
hit somebody and they fall on the ground and stuff

2146
02:07:53,769 --> 02:07:56,309
like that. Yeah, it can get stiff. This has no

2147
02:07:56,309 --> 02:08:00,169
incapacitation with it. I wonder, I didn't do enough research

2148
02:08:00,169 --> 02:08:05,989
here. Nobody is telling people. exactly what the charge is

2149
02:08:05,989 --> 02:08:10,299
no that you're getting so it's enough to to make

2150
02:08:10,299 --> 02:08:17,019
you stop resisting allegedly allegedly allegedly i have my doubts

2151
02:08:17,019 --> 02:08:19,379
about this i really do well yeah the guys on

2152
02:08:19,379 --> 02:08:22,639
like bath salts or something we've seen enough videos where

2153
02:08:22,639 --> 02:08:25,539
tasers didn't work Didn't work. Sure. And then when I

2154
02:08:25,539 --> 02:08:28,699
saw this thing first mentioned online, it was in reference

2155
02:08:28,699 --> 02:08:32,829
to apparently, allegedly, ICE has bought many hundreds or thousands

2156
02:08:32,829 --> 02:08:36,379
of pairs of these things that could be using. Which,

2157
02:08:36,379 --> 02:08:39,729
you know, any day now, somebody from MS Now will

2158
02:08:39,729 --> 02:08:43,749
be reporting that these are, in fact, a wearable firing

2159
02:08:43,749 --> 02:08:47,279
squad. That's how they're going to characterize this stuff. CNN's

2160
02:08:47,279 --> 02:08:50,809
already doing it. Oh, there you go. Okay. And again,

2161
02:08:50,809 --> 02:08:55,269
the reality is this is less than a taser. That

2162
02:08:55,269 --> 02:08:59,049
much is clear. So less lethal than what they already

2163
02:08:59,049 --> 02:09:05,399
have. So this is trying to appease a greater majority

2164
02:09:05,399 --> 02:09:10,579
of. of the population by having a way to do

2165
02:09:10,579 --> 02:09:15,499
the job without doing massive damage. And but still, it's

2166
02:09:15,499 --> 02:09:18,449
going to be Trump bad, Trump bad, Trump bad, ICE

2167
02:09:18,449 --> 02:09:23,299
is evil. Well, the gloves in theory and GLOVE is

2168
02:09:23,299 --> 02:09:29,259
for generated low output voltage emitter. So it's glove. I

2169
02:09:29,259 --> 02:09:32,409
know. I mean, whoever comes up with the acronyms, I

2170
02:09:32,409 --> 02:09:34,849
have to give them credit on that one. That was

2171
02:09:34,849 --> 02:09:39,699
pretty good. Yeah. glove. The gloves generically are a tool.

2172
02:09:39,919 --> 02:09:43,209
You put them on, they're sort of an on-off switch,

2173
02:09:43,209 --> 02:09:45,999
so if you touch someone, they may not feel it.

2174
02:09:46,059 --> 02:09:47,419
When you turn it on, they're going to get a

2175
02:09:47,419 --> 02:09:50,709
voltage that's described as sort of an intense bee sting.

2176
02:09:50,709 --> 02:09:52,999
They're not supposed to do it for longer than 15

2177
02:09:52,999 --> 02:09:57,399
seconds. So this may be helpful, and I will say

2178
02:09:57,399 --> 02:09:59,979
that the The devices have mostly been used

2179
02:10:00,031 --> 02:10:02,421
at least from the public record, the company is not

2180
02:10:02,421 --> 02:10:06,081
speaking now, at least from the public record, in confined

2181
02:10:06,081 --> 02:10:10,381
situations, a jail. That may make sense because there's really

2182
02:10:10,381 --> 02:10:13,211
no freedom of movement. There's no freedom at all in

2183
02:10:13,211 --> 02:10:16,751
jails, madam, but... Very little. Well, you know that these

2184
02:10:16,751 --> 02:10:19,271
things are going to find their way very quickly into

2185
02:10:19,271 --> 02:10:23,171
schools and subway stations and crowded buses. It's going to

2186
02:10:23,171 --> 02:10:26,141
be. It's going to be. Right. Well, right. For law

2187
02:10:26,141 --> 02:10:29,301
enforcement. OK. Now, for other people, you're going to be

2188
02:10:29,301 --> 02:10:33,141
committing battery if you do this. Yeah. This is Juliette

2189
02:10:33,141 --> 02:10:38,491
Kayyem, the CNN analyst. Go forward to ICE and where

2190
02:10:38,491 --> 02:10:43,681
we are now. This is asking for intense trouble for

2191
02:10:43,681 --> 02:10:49,571
the American public. Intense trouble for American public. ICE is

2192
02:10:49,571 --> 02:10:54,171
not known for de-escalation. Oh, but wait, this isn't indeed.

2193
02:10:54,391 --> 02:11:02,241
Okay. ice is not known yes for de-escalation she says

2194
02:11:02,241 --> 02:11:07,571
yeah but this is a tool that is way below

2195
02:11:07,571 --> 02:11:12,741
the threshold of what they've had before which would show

2196
02:11:12,741 --> 02:11:17,411
that in good faith anybody again if you had logic

2197
02:11:17,941 --> 02:11:23,171
would understand that this is a step towards de-escalization because

2198
02:11:23,171 --> 02:11:27,651
this is like a bee sting rather than you getting

2199
02:11:27,651 --> 02:11:31,261
hit with the electric shock coming off a capacitor on

2200
02:11:31,261 --> 02:11:35,211
your TV. No. If they were serious about this, Darren,

2201
02:11:35,211 --> 02:11:40,251
they would issue every squad of ICE guys out. pocket

2202
02:11:40,251 --> 02:11:45,241
watches with chains and a competent hypnotist. And that's how

2203
02:11:45,241 --> 02:11:48,121
to make people compliant. Just sit them down, swing that

2204
02:11:48,121 --> 02:11:52,081
watch. They'll do what you say. I don't know if

2205
02:11:52,081 --> 02:11:54,891
that would work. The, oh, you're getting sleepy. That's it.

2206
02:11:55,231 --> 02:11:57,441
Some audio, too. Yeah, now you got it. You're on

2207
02:11:57,441 --> 02:11:59,751
board. You're getting very sleepy. That's what I'm talking about.

2208
02:11:59,791 --> 02:12:03,641
Stop rushing me with that gun. No, no! Right, that's

2209
02:12:03,641 --> 02:12:07,831
exactly the problem. Oh, but these gloves are bad. The

2210
02:12:07,831 --> 02:12:12,051
rules of engagement for ICE are not understood. And with

2211
02:12:12,051 --> 02:12:15,361
this mandate from the White House of... The rules of

2212
02:12:15,361 --> 02:12:20,811
engagement for ICE are not understood. If somebody tries to

2213
02:12:20,811 --> 02:12:26,451
mess with them, they will use the glove. And more.

2214
02:12:27,201 --> 02:12:32,031
200, 2000 arrests a day. Yeah. Oh, a day, 2000

2215
02:12:32,031 --> 02:12:35,271
arrests a day. That's too many. Let's not talk about

2216
02:12:35,271 --> 02:12:37,131
the fact that how many million people came in under

2217
02:12:37,131 --> 02:12:40,241
Joey because he said, hey, come on in. Let's not

2218
02:12:40,241 --> 02:12:42,641
talk about how crime rates actually seem to have gone

2219
02:12:42,641 --> 02:12:45,611
down in some major cities, which I cannot prove it.

2220
02:12:45,611 --> 02:12:47,791
You cannot prove it. Nobody can prove it yet. But

2221
02:12:47,791 --> 02:12:51,511
it seems it's possible that violent gang members that are

2222
02:12:51,511 --> 02:12:55,141
being sent back to their mother country maybe is one

2223
02:12:55,141 --> 02:12:58,151
of the reasons why it's safer to walk around some

2224
02:12:58,151 --> 02:13:02,291
places in the United States now. Could be. You are

2225
02:13:02,291 --> 02:13:04,541
now have sort of issued ice to sort of go

2226
02:13:04,541 --> 02:13:07,991
around, touch people and zap them and say that they're

2227
02:13:07,991 --> 02:13:11,331
not compliant. We know I just say they can always

2228
02:13:11,331 --> 02:13:15,671
say they weren't compliant, madam. But before they could shoot

2229
02:13:15,671 --> 02:13:18,661
them or kill them or do something like that. Now

2230
02:13:18,661 --> 02:13:22,921
they're going to get a little owie. I mean, this

2231
02:13:22,921 --> 02:13:26,011
is just insanity. The fact that the reality of this

2232
02:13:26,011 --> 02:13:31,351
system is you're not doing any damage to somebody because

2233
02:13:31,351 --> 02:13:35,511
of this glove. Yeah. I'm going to be direct here.

2234
02:13:35,611 --> 02:13:37,711
We know ice lies. Oh, I'm going to be direct

2235
02:13:37,711 --> 02:13:40,461
here. We know ice lies. Oh, I bet you. That

2236
02:13:40,461 --> 02:13:44,571
was very direct. So direct. Yeah. Of course, I slide.

2237
02:13:44,571 --> 02:13:48,351
This is again. OK, give us the list of where

2238
02:13:48,351 --> 02:13:51,581
ice, which is a not a person, of course. Where

2239
02:13:51,581 --> 02:13:54,491
has ice lied? Where has ice touched you on the

2240
02:13:54,491 --> 02:13:58,271
doll? That's it. They've been shown to lie to have.

2241
02:13:58,271 --> 02:14:02,191
And so this they have that CNN. They have. Could

2242
02:14:02,191 --> 02:14:04,931
be a real danger for the American public. They have

2243
02:14:04,931 --> 02:14:08,401
been shown to lie in court. And so, you know,

2244
02:14:08,401 --> 02:14:12,171
judges have made those made that very plain and clear.

2245
02:14:12,311 --> 02:14:15,021
I do want to ask you about because we've talked

2246
02:14:15,021 --> 02:14:18,561
about this before, but it with this extra tool, when

2247
02:14:18,561 --> 02:14:22,331
you consider the idea that there is a quota. Most

2248
02:14:22,331 --> 02:14:25,381
departments have gotten rid of these, right? I mean, this

2249
02:14:25,381 --> 02:14:28,461
was a whole big thing with law enforcement many, many

2250
02:14:28,461 --> 02:14:31,391
decades ago. And now that it's back for ICE and

2251
02:14:31,391 --> 02:14:34,751
ICE only, generally speaking, what does this do to law

2252
02:14:34,751 --> 02:14:38,641
enforcement agents when they have this thing sitting over their

2253
02:14:38,641 --> 02:14:42,111
head that, oh, we need to get 2000 per day?

2254
02:14:42,321 --> 02:14:45,281
Yeah, it's a... Wait a minute. She's saying that these

2255
02:14:45,281 --> 02:14:48,601
gloves go back for decades? Is that correct? No, she's

2256
02:14:48,601 --> 02:14:52,911
just talking about quotas in law enforcement. Oh, all right.

2257
02:14:52,911 --> 02:14:55,671
I mean, the reality is the only reason the quota

2258
02:14:55,671 --> 02:15:00,591
of the around $2,000 a day is there... Is because

2259
02:15:00,591 --> 02:15:03,511
they started with so many millions of people that they

2260
02:15:03,511 --> 02:15:07,621
had to get rid of. And this is nothing different

2261
02:15:07,621 --> 02:15:10,951
than having a job. You work at a factory, you

2262
02:15:10,951 --> 02:15:13,551
know, and you need to get X amount out. Well,

2263
02:15:13,551 --> 02:15:16,061
you put a number on it. You say, well, here's

2264
02:15:16,061 --> 02:15:19,061
our goal. Here's what we're trying to do. There's no

2265
02:15:19,061 --> 02:15:20,961
like, well, if we don't get this amount of people,

2266
02:15:20,961 --> 02:15:24,151
something happens. It's just, hey, this right now is the

2267
02:15:24,151 --> 02:15:27,051
level we want to be at. But it doesn't mean

2268
02:15:27,051 --> 02:15:30,951
they're rounding up people that don't deserve it. They're like,

2269
02:15:30,951 --> 02:15:32,671
oh, no, they're not criminals. Oh, you mean are they

2270
02:15:32,671 --> 02:15:38,231
here illegally? Well, then technically... Holman did respond to the

2271
02:15:38,231 --> 02:15:41,841
glove kerfuffle, if you will. Oh, let's see what Tom

2272
02:15:41,841 --> 02:15:44,951
said. And look, there is no reason for it. I

2273
02:15:44,951 --> 02:15:48,701
mean, bottom line, you're right. It's just politics. It's sanctuary

2274
02:15:48,701 --> 02:15:53,711
jurisdiction. Over a decade, I can't think of the hundreds

2275
02:15:53,711 --> 02:15:56,801
of... of cases like this has happened. It's just one

2276
02:15:56,801 --> 02:15:59,231
case after another after another. We'll talk about this today

2277
02:15:59,231 --> 02:16:02,461
and tomorrow. Then we'll move on. The next week there'll

2278
02:16:02,461 --> 02:16:04,891
be another one in some other place, another sanctuary stay.

2279
02:16:05,191 --> 02:16:07,641
And what really upset me, the response from the governor's

2280
02:16:07,641 --> 02:16:10,651
office, was that, well, ICE has billions of dollars. They

2281
02:16:10,651 --> 02:16:13,521
should be doing their job. We did our job. We

2282
02:16:13,521 --> 02:16:17,801
located this person in their facility. We did an investigation,

2283
02:16:17,801 --> 02:16:19,931
found out he is an illegal in the United States.

2284
02:16:19,991 --> 02:16:22,801
He has a criminal history. He is deportable. So we

2285
02:16:22,801 --> 02:16:26,901
issued a detainer. Ask him then... to notify us before

2286
02:16:26,901 --> 02:16:29,871
they release them. Now, I don't care about sanctuary policies.

2287
02:16:30,051 --> 02:16:32,021
They say, we can't honor detainers. We don't think they're

2288
02:16:32,021 --> 02:16:35,751
legal. There's nothing illegal. There's nothing against the sanctuary law

2289
02:16:35,751 --> 02:16:38,671
in California for a deputy to just pick the phone

2290
02:16:38,671 --> 02:16:41,201
up and say that, hey, this guy's being released in

2291
02:16:41,201 --> 02:16:44,311
an hour. You don't have to hold him one minute.

2292
02:16:44,451 --> 02:16:47,471
longer than you would normally hold them, just call us

2293
02:16:47,471 --> 02:16:50,691
before we release them. It's common sense. So this person's

2294
02:16:50,691 --> 02:16:54,931
dead because Governor Newsom in the state of California puts

2295
02:16:54,931 --> 02:16:59,031
politics, hatred over President Trump, over public safety. So look

2296
02:16:59,031 --> 02:17:02,081
at what California has done to hurt you guys, to

2297
02:17:02,081 --> 02:17:05,551
curb ICE enforcement. They make ICE agents easier to sue.

2298
02:17:05,971 --> 02:17:09,761
They're banning cops from moonlighting for ICE, restricting ICE courthouse

2299
02:17:09,761 --> 02:17:14,491
arrests, taxing immigrants' detention profits, banning masks for federal agents.

2300
02:17:14,531 --> 02:17:17,511
They're doing everything possible to make your job harder. Now,

2301
02:17:17,511 --> 02:17:19,231
think about if you're the family of that 68-year-old or

2302
02:17:19,231 --> 02:17:22,201
that 60-year-old. that 68 year old, how do you feel

2303
02:17:22,201 --> 02:17:26,031
today? Shake to your stomach that your government lets you

2304
02:17:26,031 --> 02:17:28,731
down. The state government lets you down. Look, they put

2305
02:17:28,731 --> 02:17:30,591
a lot of roadblocks up. They try to make our

2306
02:17:30,591 --> 02:17:32,931
job more difficult. But the bottom line is, of June

2307
02:17:32,931 --> 02:17:35,881
of this year, ICE made more arrests than any time

2308
02:17:35,881 --> 02:17:38,811
in the history of ICE. A historic month in June.

2309
02:17:39,171 --> 02:17:41,051
What do we do the next month in July? We

2310
02:17:41,051 --> 02:17:43,511
blew June out of the water. We got another historic

2311
02:17:43,511 --> 02:17:45,851
record. We're going to keep doing our job. You can

2312
02:17:45,851 --> 02:17:48,671
make it more difficult. You can impede. You can interfere.

2313
02:17:49,071 --> 02:17:51,661
But you're not going to stop President Trump from keeping

2314
02:17:51,661 --> 02:17:55,591
his promise to American people. And I think he's right

2315
02:17:55,591 --> 02:17:58,831
there. Yeah, let's hope so. You're not going to keep

2316
02:17:58,831 --> 02:18:01,541
Donald Trump from doing what he wants to do, whether

2317
02:18:01,541 --> 02:18:05,261
you like him or not. And the whole thing with

2318
02:18:05,261 --> 02:18:08,741
these gloves, I don't understand because they seem to be

2319
02:18:08,741 --> 02:18:12,091
gentle enough. If you're like, well, the guy's like, I've

2320
02:18:12,091 --> 02:18:14,351
accidentally touched myself a few times. That sounded dirty. But

2321
02:18:14,351 --> 02:18:17,631
hey. If it didn't knock him out, well, what's the

2322
02:18:17,631 --> 02:18:21,291
problem? Yeah. Do you have any more stories for us

2323
02:18:21,291 --> 02:18:24,091
today, or should we thank some people for... Let's thank

2324
02:18:24,091 --> 02:18:27,191
some people, yeah. I'm going to show my support by

2325
02:18:27,191 --> 02:18:30,151
donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could

2326
02:18:30,151 --> 02:18:33,891
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No

2327
02:18:33,891 --> 02:18:56,631
Agenda. In the morning We need things like artwork, man.

2328
02:18:56,711 --> 02:19:00,131
This was a hell of a week for art. You

2329
02:19:00,131 --> 02:19:02,511
have all sorts of ways to give us boots on

2330
02:19:02,511 --> 02:19:06,071
the ground, support the show. It is your no agenda

2331
02:19:06,071 --> 02:19:08,771
show. That's one thing I picked up from Adam years

2332
02:19:08,771 --> 02:19:11,381
ago where it was always like, well, this is your

2333
02:19:11,381 --> 02:19:13,201
no agenda show. It's like, well, what do you mean

2334
02:19:13,201 --> 02:19:17,211
by that? Yeah. Yeah. It means it is the producers

2335
02:19:17,211 --> 02:19:22,701
running the show. Everybody's a producer. The podfather actually seems

2336
02:19:22,701 --> 02:19:26,081
to be enjoying being a producer of the show. Imagine

2337
02:19:26,081 --> 02:19:29,041
that. He really is. He says he likes listening to

2338
02:19:29,041 --> 02:19:33,241
us. He may be. He listened to Planet Rage. That

2339
02:19:33,241 --> 02:19:35,171
is why we are here right now is because he.

2340
02:19:35,171 --> 02:19:38,831
True. Listened to Planet Rage, and he liked it. You

2341
02:19:38,831 --> 02:19:41,511
can also get over into the troll room. Let's see.

2342
02:19:41,951 --> 02:19:48,541
15, 20. 15, 20. Oh, there they are. 902 for

2343
02:19:48,541 --> 02:19:51,931
a high. That's not bad. I mean, for us. I

2344
02:19:51,931 --> 02:19:54,311
mean, for Adam and John, John would be like, ah,

2345
02:19:54,311 --> 02:19:58,921
that's not enough. Of course. For us, we need everybody

2346
02:19:58,921 --> 02:19:59,991
to bring one.

2347
02:20:00,143 --> 02:20:03,383
friend with them. No, bring two friends too. That would

2348
02:20:03,383 --> 02:20:07,103
be better. Yes. The troll room is available over at

2349
02:20:07,103 --> 02:20:09,813
no agenda dot stream. But if you have a podcasting

2350
02:20:09,813 --> 02:20:13,343
2.0 app, you're notified when the shows go live, a

2351
02:20:13,343 --> 02:20:15,963
bunch of shows use it. And it's great because a

2352
02:20:15,963 --> 02:20:19,243
lot of people enjoy. listening live because you don't know

2353
02:20:19,243 --> 02:20:21,993
what's going to happen. Some shows will edit things. They're

2354
02:20:21,993 --> 02:20:24,893
like, oh no, what did they say? If somebody rage

2355
02:20:24,893 --> 02:20:27,983
quits, you might miss out on all the fun. Yeah.

2356
02:20:28,323 --> 02:20:31,483
So you go over to know agenda.stream, you listen live,

2357
02:20:31,603 --> 02:20:34,873
you get a podcasting 2.0 app. You take part in

2358
02:20:34,873 --> 02:20:40,423
the troll room shenanigans. And if you are, able to

2359
02:20:40,423 --> 02:20:43,023
prompt an AI, or maybe if you're a real artist,

2360
02:20:43,103 --> 02:20:45,903
we'd love the real artist. I know for me, the

2361
02:20:45,903 --> 02:20:50,883
guy that is the AI prompt jockey I like the

2362
02:20:50,883 --> 02:20:53,323
real art. And a lot of people that are like,

2363
02:20:53,423 --> 02:20:55,703
I don't think this guy ever listened to No Agenda.

2364
02:20:55,823 --> 02:20:57,953
It's like, go to the No Agenda Art Generator. I'm

2365
02:20:57,953 --> 02:21:01,453
only behind Nick the Rat in Art Wins. They're like,

2366
02:21:01,453 --> 02:21:04,863
this guy's never actually listened to the show. Ha ha

2367
02:21:04,863 --> 02:21:06,923
ha. I was sleeping through it. I bet you that

2368
02:21:06,923 --> 02:21:09,203
was the issue. Oh, Mike Riley's coming in today. Oh,

2369
02:21:09,203 --> 02:21:11,993
man, he's good. That's good. We like that. People are

2370
02:21:11,993 --> 02:21:15,243
going to have to up their game. The piece that

2371
02:21:15,243 --> 02:21:19,563
we chose, and we knew it was going to be

2372
02:21:19,563 --> 02:21:26,373
very controversial. Right. That's exactly what it was. And we

2373
02:21:26,373 --> 02:21:31,063
had a conversation about it and I got a email

2374
02:21:31,063 --> 02:21:34,253
from a, I think it was a Viscount that was

2375
02:21:34,253 --> 02:21:36,673
like, you know, that was JCD would never have let

2376
02:21:36,673 --> 02:21:39,903
that go through because it was grotesque. And I'm like,

2377
02:21:39,903 --> 02:21:43,033
I know, I know it was a bit grotesque. It

2378
02:21:43,033 --> 02:21:46,743
was from fret pound who this was when number one.

2379
02:21:47,503 --> 02:21:51,493
Which it was the very carnival looking with the Barker

2380
02:21:51,493 --> 02:21:56,023
and then the pregnant woman. Fauci was the carnival. Fauci

2381
02:21:56,023 --> 02:21:58,873
was the carnival Barker. Oh, is that okay? I could

2382
02:21:58,873 --> 02:22:02,083
see that. That's a Fauci. It looks even more insane

2383
02:22:02,083 --> 02:22:05,773
than Fauci does normally. Yeah, but that was him. I

2384
02:22:05,773 --> 02:22:07,793
lived with it like a walking stick. Any of the

2385
02:22:07,793 --> 02:22:10,173
striped jacket on the straw boater hat. Yeah, it was

2386
02:22:10,173 --> 02:22:13,803
perfect. And he's like, the number was 82, not 84.

2387
02:22:13,943 --> 02:22:15,813
I'm like, I know there was a little bit of

2388
02:22:15,813 --> 02:22:23,253
artistic license. It's okay. But when the overall vibe. And

2389
02:22:23,253 --> 02:22:26,973
since it was a cartoonish, you can get away with

2390
02:22:26,973 --> 02:22:30,593
a little bit more. It wasn't clinical. It was an

2391
02:22:30,593 --> 02:22:34,973
interpretation. You know, the other ones, you know, the guy

2392
02:22:34,973 --> 02:22:39,893
with the cat from Dr. Evil, the. The bears and

2393
02:22:39,893 --> 02:22:43,993
the horses fighting. Scaramanga, I had a couple. Like, Birka

2394
02:22:43,993 --> 02:22:48,443
Beach. Yes. I mean, we figured if we were going

2395
02:22:48,443 --> 02:22:51,263
to go grotesque, you may as well really jump into

2396
02:22:51,263 --> 02:22:54,243
it. Yeah, we felt we just should take a chance

2397
02:22:54,243 --> 02:22:57,583
and unsettle you a little bit. And apparently we did.

2398
02:22:57,793 --> 02:23:01,343
And CSB, all the naked women are nice, but they're

2399
02:23:01,343 --> 02:23:04,223
probably not going to get picked. No. When I see

2400
02:23:04,223 --> 02:23:08,353
the naked bodies, I hear John saying, no, cheesecake. Cheesecake

2401
02:23:08,353 --> 02:23:12,463
is okay, but they need to be clothed, CSB. Yes.

2402
02:23:13,083 --> 02:23:18,503
And the burka, burka, burka from Scaramanga we dug. Yes.

2403
02:23:18,413 --> 02:23:21,343
But it took everybody like a half hour to realize

2404
02:23:21,343 --> 02:23:24,273
she was sitting on cauliflower rather than like, what is

2405
02:23:24,273 --> 02:23:27,793
that? What is that? It's got to be simplistic. If

2406
02:23:27,793 --> 02:23:31,573
we not learned anything, the simple joke goes, I was

2407
02:23:31,573 --> 02:23:34,833
almost going to go with the CSB's eyepatch guy because

2408
02:23:34,833 --> 02:23:40,093
it was less. offensive than the Carnival Barker one, but

2409
02:23:40,093 --> 02:23:42,283
Larry convinced me. He's like, no, no, that one's more

2410
02:23:42,283 --> 02:23:45,603
eye-catching, and you want to be eye-catching. I'm like, well,

2411
02:23:45,603 --> 02:23:48,403
we could go to in evergreen but then the artist

2412
02:23:48,403 --> 02:23:50,563
will never throw anything in because i'll be like you

2413
02:23:50,563 --> 02:23:53,283
didn't pick my art and then then i threatened to

2414
02:23:53,283 --> 02:23:55,653
just make my own art and put it up there

2415
02:23:55,653 --> 02:23:57,433
like i can do it i i can do it

2416
02:23:57,433 --> 02:24:00,633
i i've won however i'm only behind nick the rat

2417
02:24:00,633 --> 02:24:03,893
if you go to the leaderboard you'll see nick the

2418
02:24:03,893 --> 02:24:08,993
rat 193 me 141 so wow wow Good for you,

2419
02:24:08,993 --> 02:24:12,723
Darren. Nick the Rat will go down in history as

2420
02:24:12,723 --> 02:24:17,213
the number one no agenda artist, unless somebody really, really

2421
02:24:17,213 --> 02:24:20,823
comes out of nowhere. So thank you, Fret Pound. It

2422
02:24:20,823 --> 02:24:26,723
is very much appreciated. Time, talent, and treasure. We got

2423
02:24:26,723 --> 02:24:29,263
to keep the lights on. Got to keep the microphones

2424
02:24:29,263 --> 02:24:32,263
humming. So you got to send a Darren and Larry

2425
02:24:32,263 --> 02:24:34,003
donation. I mean, just tell us the Darren and Larry

2426
02:24:34,003 --> 02:24:36,953
donation. We want to hear more of those guys. Yes,

2427
02:24:36,953 --> 02:24:40,183
please. But we have a few people to thank for

2428
02:24:40,183 --> 02:24:45,723
today's show. We have the executive producers, which is anything

2429
02:24:45,723 --> 02:24:49,503
over three hundred and thirty three dollars. It's a number

2430
02:24:49,503 --> 02:24:53,043
that everybody enjoys. And let me pull up the right

2431
02:24:53,043 --> 02:25:01,303
screen here. The first one coming in with $1,888.88. That's

2432
02:25:01,303 --> 02:25:05,953
one heck of a number. It is. Mike, the privileged

2433
02:25:05,953 --> 02:25:08,743
taco salad, which I've heard a lot of good nicknames.

2434
02:25:09,283 --> 02:25:15,603
That's great. The privileged taco salad. says dear Amy dear

2435
02:25:15,603 --> 02:25:19,023
Adam Mimi and the Dvorak family in the morning spelled

2436
02:25:19,023 --> 02:25:25,113
M-O-U-R-N-I-N-G after listening to show 1888 I discovered that I

2437
02:25:25,113 --> 02:25:27,383
must have been living under a rock for most of

2438
02:25:27,383 --> 02:25:30,203
my life when my buddy Gary hit me in the

2439
02:25:30,203 --> 02:25:35,583
mouth back around episode 1357 I He mentioned the podcast

2440
02:25:35,583 --> 02:25:39,163
was done by John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry. My

2441
02:25:39,163 --> 02:25:43,303
response was, John who? I knew who Adam was from

2442
02:25:43,303 --> 02:25:46,763
MTV, but I had never heard of JCD. I was

2443
02:25:46,763 --> 02:25:49,433
hooked from the start and have not missed any shows

2444
02:25:49,433 --> 02:25:52,913
since. I learned quickly that the both of you know

2445
02:25:52,913 --> 02:25:56,973
what you're talking about and set feelings and thoughts straight

2446
02:25:56,973 --> 02:25:59,313
in my mind. That is one of the greatest things

2447
02:25:59,313 --> 02:26:03,913
about no agenda. Yes. I like finding people who think

2448
02:26:03,913 --> 02:26:07,173
the way that I do. I have questioned things that

2449
02:26:07,173 --> 02:26:09,673
the mainstream media reports for as long as I can

2450
02:26:09,673 --> 02:26:14,343
remember. One instance is when George W. Bush was president

2451
02:26:14,343 --> 02:26:20,773
and Gerhard Schroeder was the German chancellor. The American news

2452
02:26:20,773 --> 02:26:24,383
was claiming and quoting things that Schroeder was saying, and

2453
02:26:24,383 --> 02:26:27,593
the German news was quoting things and saying what George

2454
02:26:27,593 --> 02:26:30,653
Bush was saying. I just happened to be learning German

2455
02:26:30,653 --> 02:26:32,463
at the time, and I picked up on what was

2456
02:26:32,463 --> 02:26:36,293
being translated and can only go, no, that's not what

2457
02:26:36,293 --> 02:26:40,623
he said from both sides. The news was embellishing the

2458
02:26:40,623 --> 02:26:45,543
reports. Imagine that. What? Gambling? Round up the usual suspects.

2459
02:26:46,043 --> 02:26:49,193
Exactly. And this is especially when things get translated. You

2460
02:26:49,193 --> 02:26:52,203
know. Go ahead. There's going to be funny things going

2461
02:26:52,203 --> 02:26:56,493
on. He continues. I, like you and JCD, am also

2462
02:26:56,493 --> 02:26:59,283
a jack of all trades and a master of none.

2463
02:26:59,843 --> 02:27:01,813
I have donned a lot of different hats in my

2464
02:27:01,813 --> 02:27:04,873
life and know quite a bit by doing so. Again,

2465
02:27:04,873 --> 02:27:07,483
you two showed me that there are others who are

2466
02:27:07,483 --> 02:27:11,863
like me. Past nicknames were hazmat Mike. Out of scope,

2467
02:27:11,863 --> 02:27:14,503
Mike and rock and roll, Mike, just to name a

2468
02:27:14,503 --> 02:27:18,903
few. experiencing the love that was shared for JCD was

2469
02:27:18,903 --> 02:27:21,053
amazing. And I am proud to be able to be

2470
02:27:21,053 --> 02:27:25,503
a part of such a great group. Gitmo nation rocks.

2471
02:27:25,943 --> 02:27:29,183
Yeah. It's even better than schoolhouse rocks. Definitely. I do

2472
02:27:29,183 --> 02:27:31,763
hear John grousing at me for the length of this

2473
02:27:31,763 --> 02:27:34,513
note. So I will close it by saying, God bless

2474
02:27:34,513 --> 02:27:39,723
you all. And then he has met Ville, Libe and

2475
02:27:39,723 --> 02:27:41,843
LA, which I had to look up, which I know

2476
02:27:41,843 --> 02:27:44,763
I butchered. It means with much love to you all

2477
02:27:44,763 --> 02:27:48,663
in German. He says, Mike, the privileged taco salad, PS,

2478
02:27:49,023 --> 02:27:52,193
Kudos to Larry and Darren for their filling in. I

2479
02:27:52,193 --> 02:27:55,473
have to admit that I visualized Tommy Chong when Larry

2480
02:27:55,473 --> 02:27:59,283
speaks and lost it when he said, dude, maybe you

2481
02:27:59,283 --> 02:28:02,123
do have a Tommy Chong thing going on. Really? So

2482
02:28:02,123 --> 02:28:05,703
I'm either a beatnik poet or I'm a Tommy Chong.

2483
02:28:05,883 --> 02:28:07,983
Wow. Or a total stoner. That's quite a span. Yes.

2484
02:28:08,103 --> 02:28:13,683
Yeah. Jeez. Jeez. He says, PPS, please accept my $1,888.88

2485
02:28:13,683 --> 02:28:17,833
donation in honor of JCD. We do. Thank you very

2486
02:28:17,833 --> 02:28:20,823
much. And then handwritten at the bottom, which I want

2487
02:28:20,823 --> 02:28:24,653
to let you know, my AI got right. Type is

2488
02:28:24,653 --> 02:28:28,843
better than my chicken scratch. But hey, if the AI

2489
02:28:28,843 --> 02:28:31,303
can tell what it is, that's all that really matters.

2490
02:28:32,163 --> 02:28:35,303
Thank you very much. I guess he's already a knight.

2491
02:28:35,443 --> 02:28:39,683
If there's any title change or anything, please let us

2492
02:28:39,683 --> 02:28:43,743
know. But thank you, Mike, for the privileged taco salad.

2493
02:28:44,343 --> 02:28:47,953
Thank you, Mike. Next up is Dr. Don and Dame

2494
02:28:47,953 --> 02:28:55,183
Audra. 333.88 from places unknown but there's a jingle request

2495
02:28:55,183 --> 02:29:02,433
to Darren, it's a double up beep You've got... See,

2496
02:29:02,433 --> 02:29:04,913
there was none, but I just had to make myself

2497
02:29:04,913 --> 02:29:07,233
a note to remember and get it. So it can

2498
02:29:07,233 --> 02:29:11,783
be quick like the podfather. Up next, Manuka Gold from

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2500
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happy to keep supporting. We do have a code at

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2505
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is ManukaGold.com. And I can attest, this stuff is really

2506
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good. Have you gotten yours yet? Have you got your

2507
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address to them? Did you let them know where they

2508
02:29:45,573 --> 02:29:48,703
find you? I haven't, but I promise I'll, because I'm

2509
02:29:48,703 --> 02:29:51,103
a honey freak and I can't wait. So, yes, thank

2510
02:29:51,103 --> 02:29:54,703
you for the reminder. It is fantastic stuff. Next up

2511
02:29:54,703 --> 02:29:59,923
is Brandon Baldwin of Manteca, California. 222

2512
02:30:00,019 --> 02:30:06,399
22. See note from. It might have gone to the

2513
02:30:06,399 --> 02:30:11,669
wrong address. Went astray, huh? Yes. Make sure you send

2514
02:30:11,669 --> 02:30:14,879
in the note to notes at no agenda dot com.

2515
02:30:14,979 --> 02:30:17,679
The back office said they haven't received it yet or

2516
02:30:17,679 --> 02:30:20,829
any note, Brandon. So. Yeah. Send it again to notes

2517
02:30:20,829 --> 02:30:23,329
at no agenda. Wait, I'm sorry. You must have sent

2518
02:30:23,329 --> 02:30:27,839
it to no agenda.com. It is no agenda show. Not

2519
02:30:27,839 --> 02:30:30,579
notes at no agenda show. Dot net notes at no

2520
02:30:30,579 --> 02:30:34,099
agenda show. Dot net. And we will do a make

2521
02:30:34,099 --> 02:30:40,359
good for you. Definitely. Next episode. Then coming in Stefan

2522
02:30:40,359 --> 02:30:46,499
truckles from Seuss, Denmark. I guess I'll go with that.

2523
02:30:46,899 --> 02:30:49,539
Hi, gents. I know he's donated to our other shows.

2524
02:30:49,639 --> 02:30:52,199
I just, you know, I'm blanking on where these from.

2525
02:30:52,299 --> 02:30:54,889
Hi, gents. Much appreciated that the two of our producers

2526
02:30:54,889 --> 02:30:59,649
moved from Brunetti like backroom producing to, to being off

2527
02:30:59,649 --> 02:31:03,029
cam news models. Well, I mean, we are very pretty

2528
02:31:03,029 --> 02:31:04,979
stuff on, I mean, you know that at least Larry

2529
02:31:04,979 --> 02:31:08,359
is, I have to wear the eye patch. I'm gorgeous.

2530
02:31:08,719 --> 02:31:12,219
He says, I would like to request any jingle with

2531
02:31:12,219 --> 02:31:18,079
love in the title, except love you mean it. Um,

2532
02:31:18,079 --> 02:31:23,339
um, That is an interesting request. Yes. And his donation

2533
02:31:23,339 --> 02:31:41,399
was 2-21-17. Bye. Mmm. Had love in it. Thank you,

2534
02:31:41,399 --> 02:31:47,249
Stefan. Next up is Eli the Coffee Guy. And I'm

2535
02:31:47,249 --> 02:31:50,479
so excited, Darren. Guess what? He's got my address and

2536
02:31:50,479 --> 02:31:53,489
he's sending me some of that fabulous gigawatt coffee. Oh,

2537
02:31:53,489 --> 02:31:56,349
you're going to be wired. I am. He's from Bensonville,

2538
02:31:56,349 --> 02:32:02,249
Illinois, 208.16, and Eli says, Gentlemen, I read the newsletter

2539
02:32:02,249 --> 02:32:06,299
and figured the Strait of Hormuz sovereignty line was you

2540
02:32:06,299 --> 02:32:10,178
guys having a laugh. Some snide throwaway. Then I saw

2541
02:32:10,178 --> 02:32:13,339
some news articles with Trump trolling that pretty soon he'll

2542
02:32:13,339 --> 02:32:16,379
declare it a territory of the United States. It's hard

2543
02:32:16,379 --> 02:32:19,509
to tell a bit from the news anymore. Life often

2544
02:32:19,509 --> 02:32:23,339
imitates comedy. Thanks for the laughs and great media deconstruction.

2545
02:32:23,759 --> 02:32:29,559
For producers who want great coffee, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use

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02:32:29,559 --> 02:32:36,039
code ITM20. We're 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated. Eli,

2547
02:32:36,039 --> 02:32:38,929
the coffee guy. Thank you, Eli. Thanks, Eli. I got

2548
02:32:38,929 --> 02:32:40,789
to get back to him. Some of the producers, they

2549
02:32:40,789 --> 02:32:43,849
want to do a Saturday meetup in September. Oh, that's

2550
02:32:43,849 --> 02:32:46,819
exciting. And it's either they want to make sure I

2551
02:32:46,819 --> 02:32:49,699
never do another show or they want to say congratulations.

2552
02:32:50,059 --> 02:32:53,219
I'm not too sure which yet. You'll find out. But

2553
02:32:53,219 --> 02:32:57,259
coming in next with $200, Linda Lupatkin from Castle Rock,

2554
02:32:57,259 --> 02:33:01,679
Colorado, says, Jobs, karma, of course, your resume has about

2555
02:33:01,679 --> 02:33:05,659
10 seconds to make an impression, and most don't. For

2556
02:33:05,659 --> 02:33:10,659
a resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com. That is

2557
02:33:10,659 --> 02:33:14,539
image makers, Inc with a K.com. Linda turns your experience

2558
02:33:14,539 --> 02:33:17,669
into a resume that gets you noticed, gets you interviewed

2559
02:33:17,669 --> 02:33:20,899
and gets you hired. That's image makers, Inc with a

2560
02:33:20,899 --> 02:33:24,519
K and Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs and writer of

2561
02:33:24,519 --> 02:33:33,259
winning resumes. You've got. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Karma.

2562
02:33:36,889 --> 02:33:42,179
Don Mills of Shasta Lake, California donated $200. And Don

2563
02:33:42,179 --> 02:33:45,999
says, keep the best podcast in the universe going. Glad

2564
02:33:45,999 --> 02:33:49,419
to hear the media deconstruction will continue. Well, thank you,

2565
02:33:49,419 --> 02:33:52,479
Don. Yeah, we're planting the flag just like on D-Day.

2566
02:33:52,579 --> 02:33:55,309
We're just putting it up there, daring anybody to come

2567
02:33:55,309 --> 02:34:01,909
take it. Up next, Brenda Forcade is, I think... Paulsboro,

2568
02:34:01,909 --> 02:34:06,319
Washington came in with $200. No, no. These are the

2569
02:34:06,319 --> 02:34:11,599
associate executive producers. Thank you very much, Brenda. Next up,

2570
02:34:11,599 --> 02:34:17,279
Anonymous gave $200 from Parts Unknown. And whoever you are,

2571
02:34:17,279 --> 02:34:21,709
Anonymous, we thank you very much. Then also with 200,

2572
02:34:21,709 --> 02:34:26,139
Sir Lawrence of Dystopia says, In the morning, Darren and

2573
02:34:26,139 --> 02:34:28,779
Larry, as you read this, our northern Silicon Valley in

2574
02:34:28,779 --> 02:34:30,989
the morning of John meetup will be in the rearview

2575
02:34:30,989 --> 02:34:37,819
mirror. Thanks go out to Pizzeria Violetta, Sir Crazy Recalcitrant

2576
02:34:37,819 --> 02:34:41,869
Steve, and the Dvorak's in attendance for the gathering of

2577
02:34:41,869 --> 02:34:45,869
the roundtable. No agenda nation lives on. Thank you for

2578
02:34:45,869 --> 02:34:48,889
taking the helm during the interim. Regardless of how the

2579
02:34:48,889 --> 02:34:52,189
show will morph in the future, I am convinced that

2580
02:34:52,189 --> 02:34:55,549
with all the time, The multi-universe of talent that is

2581
02:34:55,549 --> 02:34:59,379
the No Agenda Producers Network. The show will go on

2582
02:34:59,379 --> 02:35:03,969
as we are currently having an ant battle at our

2583
02:35:03,969 --> 02:35:10,959
redoubt in Maxwell Park. May I please get an I've

2584
02:35:10,959 --> 02:35:13,519
Got Ant. And this I loved. He said, I thank

2585
02:35:13,519 --> 02:35:17,939
you for your curr. rage. Oh, no doubt. A little

2586
02:35:17,939 --> 02:35:20,769
nod to the planet rage podcast that Larry and I

2587
02:35:20,769 --> 02:35:25,779
came from for five years. Sir Lawrence of dystopia, Baron

2588
02:35:25,779 --> 02:35:34,879
of Maxwell park. I got ants. Yeah. Thank you. Like

2589
02:35:34,879 --> 02:35:41,169
a dance. There we go. Next up is Sir Swiss

2590
02:35:41,169 --> 02:35:48,499
Senna from Wadden's Will, Zurich, Switzerland. $104.69. I just made

2591
02:35:48,499 --> 02:35:53,289
a PayPal payment of US dollars 104.69, which is the

2592
02:35:53,289 --> 02:35:58,629
equivalent to 88.88 Swiss francs in honor of JCD. In

2593
02:35:58,629 --> 02:36:01,629
my 63 years, I cried twice over the death of

2594
02:36:01,629 --> 02:36:04,939
a well-known person. The first time was when the musician

2595
02:36:04,939 --> 02:36:08,799
Prince died on April 21, 2016, and now when I

2596
02:36:08,799 --> 02:36:13,279
learned of the passing of Buzzkill. As the occasional organizer

2597
02:36:13,279 --> 02:36:16,209
of the Swiss meetup, I decided the producers of my

2598
02:36:16,209 --> 02:36:19,969
region should meet again in Zurich at the cozy rooftop

2599
02:36:19,969 --> 02:36:24,369
bar near the main station on Saturday, August 29. I

2600
02:36:24,369 --> 02:36:27,149
remember the discussion between the two of you, if I

2601
02:36:27,149 --> 02:36:30,979
would be eligible for the title of Black Knight. And

2602
02:36:30,979 --> 02:36:32,829
in the end, you gave it to me. I wear

2603
02:36:32,829 --> 02:36:35,739
it with pride, just like my ceiling ring. I wish

2604
02:36:35,739 --> 02:36:38,619
you all the best, the Dvorak family, the Curry family,

2605
02:36:38,619 --> 02:36:41,269
and the two good souls who generously took over the

2606
02:36:41,269 --> 02:36:43,899
mics for the time being. I'm curious of what the

2607
02:36:43,899 --> 02:36:47,369
future will bring for my favorite podcast, the best podcast

2608
02:36:47,369 --> 02:36:52,849
in the universe. Best regards, Sir Swiss Senna. Yeah, thank

2609
02:36:52,849 --> 02:36:55,249
you very much. And Sir Robertson of Two Sticks up

2610
02:36:55,249 --> 02:37:01,519
next from Dos Palos, California, came in with $101.79. Thank

2611
02:37:01,519 --> 02:37:08,039
you very much. Alan Bean of Beaverton, Oregon, $100. No,

2612
02:37:08,039 --> 02:37:11,049
no, but thank you, Alan. And then our buddy Timothy

2613
02:37:11,049 --> 02:37:15,459
Heasel coming in with $100 from Hanford, California. No, no.

2614
02:37:15,539 --> 02:37:20,079
Thank you very much. Anonymous is back with $100. There's

2615
02:37:20,079 --> 02:37:22,509
a lot of them. There's a lot of them. Thank

2616
02:37:22,509 --> 02:37:26,339
you. Then Sir Dude Named Benonymous coming in with $100.

2617
02:37:26,799 --> 02:37:31,219
Thank you very much. The Lockwoods, $100 from We Not

2618
02:37:31,219 --> 02:37:35,439
Know Not Where. No, thank you, The Lockwoods. Also with

2619
02:37:35,439 --> 02:37:41,469
$100, Angela Garcia, San Francisco, California. Thank you. M. Andrew

2620
02:37:41,469 --> 02:37:45,719
Jones, Baron of America's Mountain, Viscount of the Very Fine

2621
02:37:45,719 --> 02:37:52,549
People. 88.88, no note. Thank you, Viscount Jones. And he

2622
02:37:52,549 --> 02:37:55,719
writes books. He has some interesting stuff. Oh, cool. Kevin

2623
02:37:55,719 --> 02:38:00,039
McLaughlin. Oh, there he is. Concord, North Carolina. The 80-08

2624
02:38:00,039 --> 02:38:06,089
donation. 18-95 boob donation from the Archduke of Luna, lover

2625
02:38:06,089 --> 02:38:11,499
of America. And boobs. Thank you, sir. A. Blexrud of

2626
02:38:11,499 --> 02:38:19,199
Austin, Texas donated $80.08. Thank you. A Bucks Rudd. And

2627
02:38:19,199 --> 02:38:24,069
Les Tarkowski yet again with the $60.06, no doubt, Route

2628
02:38:24,069 --> 02:38:28,699
66 donation from Kingman, Arizona. It is very much appreciated.

2629
02:38:28,859 --> 02:38:34,459
Thank you. Eric Ortega of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, 55.67.

2630
02:38:34,779 --> 02:38:37,279
He says, keep up the great work. We will try.

2631
02:38:37,379 --> 02:38:40,859
And thank you, Eric. Up next, James Edmondson came in

2632
02:38:40,859 --> 02:38:44,699
with 55.10, which is double nickels on the dime from

2633
02:38:44,699 --> 02:38:49,819
South Plainfield, New Jersey. Thank you, sir. Craig Nosley of

2634
02:38:49,819 --> 02:38:55,919
Cumberland, British Columbia. $54.30. And Craig says, I'm up to

2635
02:38:55,919 --> 02:38:59,479
episode 40. Thank God I've got years worth of JCD

2636
02:38:59,479 --> 02:39:02,259
to listen to. And I pray we have years more

2637
02:39:02,259 --> 02:39:05,649
with Adam, Larry, and Darren, and Darren, on the best

2638
02:39:05,649 --> 02:39:08,969
podcast in the universe. Thank you, Craig. You got to

2639
02:39:08,969 --> 02:39:11,509
follow him over on X. He's doing the reviews of

2640
02:39:11,509 --> 02:39:15,379
all of the old no agenda starting from episode one.

2641
02:39:15,379 --> 02:39:19,579
It's an interesting time capsule to go back and see

2642
02:39:19,579 --> 02:39:24,669
how the show has morphed. Up next, Florida Sun Cleaning

2643
02:39:24,669 --> 02:39:29,299
with 5272 from Citra, Florida says thank you all from

2644
02:39:29,299 --> 02:39:34,119
Shannon. Thank you. We appreciate it. We do. Sir Recalciton

2645
02:39:34,119 --> 02:39:40,079
to Crazy Steve and Dame Rose, Santa Rosa, California, $51.50.

2646
02:39:40,519 --> 02:39:45,099
Thank you, sir and Steve and Dame. Alexander Beattie with

2647
02:39:45,099 --> 02:39:52,419
$50.01 from Tomball, Texas. Thank you. Chris Slonowski. No, I'm

2648
02:39:52,419 --> 02:39:57,939
sorry. Chris Slowinski. Forgive me. Sherwood Park, Alberta, California. No,

2649
02:39:57,939 --> 02:39:59,979
no. Canada. What am I saying? Yeah.

2650
02:40:00,131 --> 02:40:04,371
um $50 thank you chris then easy landscapes oh yeah

2651
02:40:04,371 --> 02:40:08,001
what did they do we don't know north stonington connecticut

2652
02:40:08,001 --> 02:40:11,671
oh that's a neighbor larry if you need some landscaping

2653
02:40:11,671 --> 02:40:15,001
you go to easy landscapes came in with 50 thank

2654
02:40:15,001 --> 02:40:19,011
you very much thank you philip balu of louisville kentucky

2655
02:40:19,011 --> 02:40:23,891
$50 thank you philip Pamela Bradley with $50 from Tecumseh,

2656
02:40:23,891 --> 02:40:28,611
Oklahoma. Thank you. Chris Cowan of Austin, Texas, $50. Thank

2657
02:40:28,611 --> 02:40:33,211
you, Chris. And we'd like to thank everybody for supporting

2658
02:40:33,211 --> 02:40:35,711
this little show. Again, send in the Darren and Larry

2659
02:40:35,711 --> 02:40:38,581
donation. Send in an 88 if you want to do

2660
02:40:38,581 --> 02:40:41,181
the JCD thing. There's all sorts of ways to help

2661
02:40:41,181 --> 02:40:43,991
support the show. And you can also, of course, just

2662
02:40:43,991 --> 02:40:46,891
post about it. Let people know about the best damn

2663
02:40:46,891 --> 02:40:50,691
podcast in the universe that we're still here. Yep. We're

2664
02:40:50,691 --> 02:40:54,941
still going strong. And we have the podfather as a

2665
02:40:54,941 --> 02:40:58,041
producer, even on Sunday show. He's always like, can you

2666
02:40:58,041 --> 02:41:00,231
imagine if we had him in the little earbud? That

2667
02:41:00,231 --> 02:41:02,771
would be fun. That would be fun. We do have

2668
02:41:02,771 --> 02:41:07,031
a layaway night for today. And that would be from

2669
02:41:07,031 --> 02:41:10,351
Avery Allen. He says, hello to all the No Agenda

2670
02:41:10,351 --> 02:41:14,171
family. It's taken me years, but I'm finally here. I'd

2671
02:41:14,171 --> 02:41:17,361
like to be known as Sir Avery of Hamilton and

2672
02:41:17,361 --> 02:41:21,221
would like nothing special at the roundtable beyond the regular

2673
02:41:21,221 --> 02:41:23,611
fair. Well, there's a lot of good stuff there already.

2674
02:41:24,411 --> 02:41:29,111
He says deepest and most heartfelt regards. So we could

2675
02:41:29,111 --> 02:41:32,571
do that. Let's see. We get the swords out here.

2676
02:41:32,651 --> 02:41:39,721
Get those swords out. Mmm. Avery Allen, step right up

2677
02:41:39,721 --> 02:41:43,541
to the podium, please. Thanks for your support of the

2678
02:41:43,541 --> 02:41:46,411
No Agenda Show. In the amount of $1,000 or more,

2679
02:41:46,411 --> 02:41:50,711
I am very proud to pronunciate you, Sir Avery of

2680
02:41:50,711 --> 02:41:58,071
Hamilton. Adam said we had to hit you hard. Wow.

2681
02:41:58,071 --> 02:42:01,561
From now on. Was he still breathing? God. Lighten up,

2682
02:42:01,561 --> 02:42:04,691
Darren. We have the usual hookers and blow, rent boys

2683
02:42:04,691 --> 02:42:08,611
and chardonnay, mutton and me, ginger ale and gerbils, bong

2684
02:42:08,611 --> 02:42:12,321
hits and bourbon, Irish whiskey and Chicago dogs. We have

2685
02:42:12,321 --> 02:42:12,621
the usual hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, mutton

2686
02:42:12,621 --> 02:42:14,501
and me, ginger ale and gerbils, And head on over

2687
02:42:14,501 --> 02:42:18,191
to noagendarings.com. That's where you'll be able to get your

2688
02:42:18,191 --> 02:42:21,351
handsome No Agenda Knight ring to send in your ring

2689
02:42:21,351 --> 02:42:24,251
size and your address. And they will get you your

2690
02:42:24,251 --> 02:42:28,961
ring along with the Certificate of Authenticity. And thank you

2691
02:42:28,961 --> 02:42:32,611
for supporting the best damn podcast in the universe and

2692
02:42:32,611 --> 02:42:35,811
becoming a knight. Of Noah Jenner. And it's okay to

2693
02:42:35,811 --> 02:42:37,971
hit them more than once because they're wearing all of

2694
02:42:37,971 --> 02:42:43,111
the armor. Right. So it's safe. Yeah. It's perfectly safe.

2695
02:42:43,191 --> 02:42:54,031
Nothing to worry about. Yeah, we have a couple of

2696
02:42:54,031 --> 02:42:58,391
birthdays to shout out today. Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve II

2697
02:42:58,391 --> 02:43:02,411
wanted to wish Sir Montauk a happy birthday. That was

2698
02:43:02,411 --> 02:43:07,981
yesterday. Yes. And Sir William of West Pensil-Tucky wants to

2699
02:43:07,981 --> 02:43:11,841
wish D.C. Girl, we know D.C. Girl, a very happy

2700
02:43:11,841 --> 02:43:15,551
birthday on August 18th. We hope it is a great

2701
02:43:15,551 --> 02:43:21,961
one. And then, of course, we have a few meetup

2702
02:43:21,961 --> 02:43:24,511
reports here because there is a lot of no agenda

2703
02:43:24,511 --> 02:43:35,641
meetups going on. No agenda meetups. It is like a

2704
02:43:35,641 --> 02:43:39,031
party. It's protection is connection. It's all that and more.

2705
02:43:39,031 --> 02:43:42,751
First up, we have the in the morning, Virginia. Thank

2706
02:43:42,751 --> 02:43:46,261
you for your courage. JCD meetup. They have a little

2707
02:43:46,261 --> 02:43:49,451
note here. Greetings. No agenda. No nation. Thank you for

2708
02:43:49,451 --> 02:43:52,631
everyone who came out. For the In the Morning Virginia

2709
02:43:52,631 --> 02:43:55,251
and thank you for your courage, JCD meetup. It was

2710
02:43:55,251 --> 02:43:58,691
wonderful to see both familiar faces and new ones over

2711
02:43:58,691 --> 02:44:02,631
food and drink. We shared memories and stories as we

2712
02:44:02,631 --> 02:44:06,331
honor John. We extend our deepest condolences to the Curry

2713
02:44:06,331 --> 02:44:10,441
and Dvorak families and also prayers of celebration for the

2714
02:44:10,441 --> 02:44:14,901
newest arrivals. In loss, we find new life. These moments

2715
02:44:14,901 --> 02:44:18,551
remind us of why the meetups matter so much. Let's

2716
02:44:18,551 --> 02:44:24,071
keep this tradition alive because connection is protection. Along with

2717
02:44:24,071 --> 02:44:26,911
the attached group photos, and it's a very good-looking group.

2718
02:44:27,291 --> 02:44:29,751
They were outside, no masks or anything, Larry. It was

2719
02:44:29,751 --> 02:44:33,611
crazy. Wow, that's cool. We're sharing a prayer for the

2720
02:44:33,611 --> 02:44:37,871
No Agenda No Nation provided by Navy Chaplain Milo Curtis

2721
02:44:37,871 --> 02:44:41,551
from Chesapeake, Virginia. A special thank you to him and

2722
02:44:41,551 --> 02:44:44,701
his wife, Bethany, for traveling out for their very first

2723
02:44:44,701 --> 02:44:49,051
meetup. Thank you for your courage, Dame Trail Chicken. And

2724
02:44:49,051 --> 02:44:52,551
this is the prayer here. All right, go ahead. Yeah,

2725
02:44:52,551 --> 02:44:55,491
easy day. All right, let's pray. Lord, we come to

2726
02:44:55,491 --> 02:44:58,351
you right now. We lift up the Dvorak family. We

2727
02:44:58,351 --> 02:45:01,901
pray for Mimi and the kids and the Currys as

2728
02:45:01,901 --> 02:45:04,901
well. And Lord, we're all in this space with one

2729
02:45:04,901 --> 02:45:07,621
another because of their faithful service to us over the

2730
02:45:07,621 --> 02:45:09,941
years. We pray that your presence would be heavy, would

2731
02:45:09,941 --> 02:45:13,141
be felt, your peace would be overwhelming. Amen. Father, I

2732
02:45:13,141 --> 02:45:16,891
pray for the No Agenda community across this nation and

2733
02:45:16,891 --> 02:45:20,051
around the world. Father, this type of gathering, these type

2734
02:45:20,051 --> 02:45:25,031
of friendships, this kind of camaraderie would strengthen souls in

2735
02:45:25,031 --> 02:45:28,391
these days. May your presence be felt. Father, may good

2736
02:45:28,391 --> 02:45:31,931
things come of it that would accomplish your kingdom purposes.

2737
02:45:32,171 --> 02:45:35,871
We pray this in your name. amen amen thank you

2738
02:45:35,871 --> 02:45:39,131
thank you so much very nice up next that was

2739
02:45:39,131 --> 02:45:42,501
very nice the rockaway beach pickleball meetup i wonder if

2740
02:45:42,501 --> 02:45:47,391
that's on an old data center Joseph Liggett says also

2741
02:45:47,391 --> 02:45:50,311
really sorry about John. I finally brought myself to listen

2742
02:45:50,311 --> 02:45:53,231
to the memorial show and listening to your intro. You

2743
02:45:53,231 --> 02:45:55,561
could hear how much the old coot really meant to

2744
02:45:55,561 --> 02:45:59,761
you. The no agenda family is grieving with you. Yeah,

2745
02:45:59,761 --> 02:46:01,841
I think John meant more to most people than they

2746
02:46:01,841 --> 02:46:06,421
realized. Oh, yeah. and has left really big shoes. And

2747
02:46:06,421 --> 02:46:08,871
that's coming from a guy with size 15s. It is

2748
02:46:08,871 --> 02:46:14,461
impossible and still very strange to be keeping the torch

2749
02:46:14,461 --> 02:46:18,861
lit for him. Yep. Hey, this is Joe in Rockaway

2750
02:46:18,861 --> 02:46:22,591
Beach doing the meter report. We got Tony and John

2751
02:46:22,591 --> 02:46:27,381
here. Say hi. Hi. This is Tony C. I do

2752
02:46:27,381 --> 02:46:32,181
name Tony C. RIP JCV This is Johnny C. RIP

2753
02:46:32,181 --> 02:46:36,291
John C. Dvorak I've been reading your material ever since

2754
02:46:36,291 --> 02:46:42,691
InfoWorld way back in the day Awesome, and here's our

2755
02:46:42,691 --> 02:46:47,491
awesome glorious server. Hi, I'm Katie. I'm from Rockaway Beach

2756
02:46:47,491 --> 02:46:50,171
Pickleball and Golf. These guys were awesome to have here

2757
02:46:50,171 --> 02:46:57,731
today. I really appreciated having their company. Who ya? R.I.P.

2758
02:46:57,731 --> 02:47:01,161
J.C.D. I like the Ramones in the background. That makes

2759
02:47:01,161 --> 02:47:05,411
a meetup. And then a latecomer, but we got it.

2760
02:47:05,451 --> 02:47:07,481
The podfather was trying to sneak one in. He's like,

2761
02:47:07,481 --> 02:47:09,951
probably too late for this show. It's never too late.

2762
02:47:10,611 --> 02:47:15,111
The Langley BC meetup report. Hey, we're here at the

2763
02:47:15,111 --> 02:47:20,701
WWJCDD meetup in Aldergrove. We wanted to think about and

2764
02:47:20,701 --> 02:47:24,111
remember John. We had some wine, we had some mac

2765
02:47:24,111 --> 02:47:26,871
and cheese, and we remembered a great man. This is

2766
02:47:26,871 --> 02:47:30,521
ID Pop, raising a glass of red and dandering some

2767
02:47:30,521 --> 02:47:33,441
mac and cheese in honor of John C. In the

2768
02:47:33,441 --> 02:47:38,161
morning. In the morning We do have some very talented

2769
02:47:38,161 --> 02:47:42,021
producers Indeed There are some upcoming meetups Including we got

2770
02:47:42,021 --> 02:47:53,511
an ad from some drunken minstrel Chris Wilson Ooh G'day

2771
02:47:53,511 --> 02:47:56,571
punters and producers of the best podcasts in the universe

2772
02:47:56,571 --> 02:48:00,611
We're bringing ants back to the Antipodes If you're located

2773
02:48:00,611 --> 02:48:03,251
here in old Sydney town Or it's great in metro

2774
02:48:03,251 --> 02:48:06,311
region, listen up It's about bloody time we got together

2775
02:48:06,311 --> 02:48:08,581
and caught up in real life To honour the late,

2776
02:48:08,581 --> 02:48:11,701
great John C. Dvorak And to celebrate that we're all

2777
02:48:11,701 --> 02:48:14,211
still here to carry on his legacy We will be

2778
02:48:14,211 --> 02:48:17,011
supporting our No Agenda community in the great Aussie tradition

2779
02:48:17,011 --> 02:48:20,121
of drinking beer and talking shit. Date is set for

2780
02:48:20,121 --> 02:48:23,041
this coming Sunday, 23rd of August in the year of

2781
02:48:23,041 --> 02:48:26,971
our Lord, 2026, at our old horn for previous meetups,

2782
02:48:26,971 --> 02:48:31,611
the Gasoline Pony, 115 Marrickville Road, Marrickville, at the customary

2783
02:48:31,611 --> 02:48:36,451
time of 3.33pm. There are some restrictions for under-18s, so

2784
02:48:36,451 --> 02:48:39,011
if you'd like to include your human resources, let me

2785
02:48:39,011 --> 02:48:41,571
know, and we can look for an alternative venue nearby.

2786
02:48:41,771 --> 02:48:43,901
I'm thinking of the Maritville Bolo. RSVP on No Agenda

2787
02:48:43,901 --> 02:48:46,371
Meetups, feel free to call or SMS me any time

2788
02:48:46,371 --> 02:48:49,841
for any questions or suggestions. Look forward to catching up

2789
02:48:49,841 --> 02:48:52,291
with you all then. In the morning, and thank you

2790
02:48:52,291 --> 02:48:57,521
for your courage. No, thank you, sir. Chris Wilson. Yeah,

2791
02:48:57,521 --> 02:49:01,991
I love fully produced bits. He's smooth. That's good work.

2792
02:49:02,371 --> 02:49:04,801
He does a lot of the great end of show

2793
02:49:04,801 --> 02:49:07,251
mixes. And he was kind of overboard for a little

2794
02:49:07,251 --> 02:49:10,581
while. So it is a beautiful thing to have him

2795
02:49:10,581 --> 02:49:13,991
back. We want to run through these meetups that are

2796
02:49:13,991 --> 02:49:18,321
coming up here. Mm hmm. From today, we've got show

2797
02:49:18,321 --> 02:49:23,381
day. R.I.P. J.C.D. at 2 p.m. Central at the Dog

2798
02:49:23,381 --> 02:49:27,351
House Lounge in Dubuque, Iowa. That sounds like fun. Yeah.

2799
02:49:28,641 --> 02:49:35,091
August 16th, the Castle Island Brewery in Norwood, Massachusetts. And

2800
02:49:35,091 --> 02:49:38,931
that one's 2.30 Boston time. Yes. We have the TMI

2801
02:49:38,931 --> 02:49:43,851
Evacuation Zone Toasted John meet up at 3.30 Eastern at

2802
02:49:43,851 --> 02:49:52,311
Evergrain Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania. Then also the 16th,

2803
02:49:52,311 --> 02:49:55,811
the drinking to buzzkill at 4.30 p.m. Pacific time at

2804
02:49:55,811 --> 02:49:59,991
the Alibi Room in Vancouver, British Columbia. British Columbia, yes.

2805
02:50:00,054 --> 02:50:02,463
Sounds like some partying going on there too. It does.

2806
02:50:02,644 --> 02:50:06,533
Yes. And then next show day on Thursday, the Charlotte's

2807
02:50:06,533 --> 02:50:10,644
third thirsty Thursday at 7 PM Eastern at Ed's Tavern

2808
02:50:10,644 --> 02:50:14,703
in Charlotte, North Carolina. And that is organized by Sir

2809
02:50:14,703 --> 02:50:20,263
Kevin Dills, the Archduke of the Carolinas. Beyond that, We

2810
02:50:20,263 --> 02:50:24,953
have Richmond, Virginia, August 21st. We have August 22nd, Fort

2811
02:50:24,953 --> 02:50:31,564
Wayne, Indiana, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Reno, Nevada, August 23rd, Indianapolis, Indiana,

2812
02:50:31,564 --> 02:50:37,423
Benton, Arkansas, Merrickville, New South Wales, Australia. That was the

2813
02:50:37,423 --> 02:50:40,224
one Sir Chris was just talking about, I think. um

2814
02:50:40,224 --> 02:50:48,474
august 28th maastricht limburg netherlands august 29th nanamio british columbia

2815
02:50:48,474 --> 02:50:52,353
canada is that what that is no name on maybe

2816
02:50:52,353 --> 02:50:55,644
i don't know and um i'll do the rest of

2817
02:50:55,644 --> 02:51:00,823
the 29th albuquerque new mexico rhode island and zurich switzerland

2818
02:51:01,443 --> 02:51:05,804
August 30th, Chester Springs, Pennsylvania. On September 6th, Medford Lakes,

2819
02:51:05,804 --> 02:51:09,963
New Jersey. September 12th, Boise, Idaho. The 15th is Scottsdale,

2820
02:51:09,963 --> 02:51:14,283
Arizona. And the 17th is Charlotte, North Carolina. October 3rd,

2821
02:51:14,283 --> 02:51:18,683
Midlands, UK. October 10th, Treasure Island, Idaho. The October 15th,

2822
02:51:18,683 --> 02:51:23,773
Charlotte, North Carolina. Um, uh, we're back to October 10th

2823
02:51:23,773 --> 02:51:28,793
and Eagle, Idaho, uh, 15th Charlotte. We already had that

2824
02:51:28,793 --> 02:51:35,753
one 17th Fredericksburg, Texas, October 24th, Smith Smithville, Texas. The

2825
02:51:35,753 --> 02:51:41,543
end as well on the 24th, Los Altos, California. and

2826
02:51:41,543 --> 02:51:45,923
Tilburg, the Netherlands. If you don't see your town there

2827
02:51:45,923 --> 02:51:50,613
or one close, it's very easy. Start your own. Just

2828
02:51:50,613 --> 02:52:08,853
go to noagendameetups.com. to be where you I mean, because

2829
02:52:08,853 --> 02:52:11,573
it is actually a party. It is. I've got a

2830
02:52:11,573 --> 02:52:15,183
few ISOs for today's show. We're going to get you

2831
02:52:15,183 --> 02:52:17,343
to start bringing some ISOs in. I'm going to bring

2832
02:52:17,343 --> 02:52:19,403
some ISOs. I promise next time. It's what I always

2833
02:52:19,403 --> 02:52:22,953
forget. Still, every show, no matter what, it's clips, clips,

2834
02:52:22,953 --> 02:52:26,603
clips. And then it's like, oh, wait, we need ISOs.

2835
02:52:26,663 --> 02:52:32,023
Yes. So I've got this one from. Uncle Ted? Okay.

2836
02:52:32,443 --> 02:52:38,123
Oh, yeah. Kind of an excited Uncle Ted. Yeah. I've

2837
02:52:38,123 --> 02:52:41,974
got Mickey Rourke as a demo Dick Marchinko. But you're

2838
02:52:41,974 --> 02:52:50,003
not, baby. Here I come. or stop talking I gotta

2839
02:52:50,003 --> 02:52:52,113
say, I kind of like, I dig Mickey because I

2840
02:52:52,113 --> 02:52:54,573
dig, uh, you know, demo dick too. What do you

2841
02:52:54,573 --> 02:52:57,843
think? Buddy or not, baby, here I come. Yeah. I

2842
02:52:57,843 --> 02:52:59,623
think that's a good way. It's kind of like a

2843
02:52:59,623 --> 02:53:02,543
fun little game that people can take part in. Yeah.

2844
02:53:02,983 --> 02:53:07,963
Yeah. So we will mark that one down and, uh.

2845
02:53:10,843 --> 02:53:15,023
We don't normally hear a... We'll do a clip of

2846
02:53:15,023 --> 02:53:17,783
the day. Oh, good. Not a clip of the day.

2847
02:53:17,783 --> 02:53:23,703
A... I was looking for the tip jingle, but you

2848
02:53:23,703 --> 02:53:26,483
know what? We don't need the tip jingle in honor

2849
02:53:26,483 --> 02:53:29,823
of JCD. I will just say if you have a

2850
02:53:29,823 --> 02:53:35,443
medical bill at a hospital, call them up and ask

2851
02:53:35,443 --> 02:53:38,923
for a discount. That's a good tip. That is the

2852
02:53:38,923 --> 02:53:41,453
we had. My wife had some tests done when she

2853
02:53:41,453 --> 02:53:44,823
was in the ER, went in and you call up

2854
02:53:44,823 --> 02:53:47,493
and at our hospital. Anyway, it's easy enough. I'm like,

2855
02:53:47,493 --> 02:53:50,763
can you offer me a discount for paying promptly? And

2856
02:53:50,763 --> 02:53:53,713
they're like, yeah, we can give you 5%. That's not

2857
02:53:53,713 --> 02:53:55,793
bad. Then I'm like, can you do 10? And they

2858
02:53:55,793 --> 02:53:58,724
put you on hold for like 30 seconds. Yeah. And

2859
02:53:58,724 --> 02:54:01,443
then they always come back and say yes. That's very

2860
02:54:01,443 --> 02:54:05,583
good tip. It is a very nice way to save

2861
02:54:05,583 --> 02:54:07,753
a little bit of money and whatever you save, of

2862
02:54:07,753 --> 02:54:10,243
course, you can donate to the best damn podcast in

2863
02:54:10,243 --> 02:54:15,823
the universe. That is going to do it for another

2864
02:54:15,823 --> 02:54:18,663
fun edition of the Best Stam Podcast in the Universe.

2865
02:54:18,804 --> 02:54:23,443
Coming up next on the Mighty No Agenda stream, we

2866
02:54:23,443 --> 02:54:28,884
have live... It is the Battle of the Douchebags Live.

2867
02:54:29,064 --> 02:54:31,743
Oh, that's a good show. Well, you've been on that.

2868
02:54:31,884 --> 02:54:34,724
I've been on it several times. It's really good. Enjoy

2869
02:54:34,724 --> 02:54:38,233
that. Yeah. We have a couple of end-of-show mixes from

2870
02:54:38,233 --> 02:54:42,603
Just Baker. We've got one from Sir Chris Wilson. Actually,

2871
02:54:42,603 --> 02:54:46,103
I think we have three end-of-show mixes from Just Baker.

2872
02:54:46,243 --> 02:54:49,423
So thank you. very much for that. You can always

2873
02:54:49,423 --> 02:54:54,093
use more. Send those in. We love the talented producers.

2874
02:54:54,093 --> 02:54:59,343
That's for dang sure. Coming to you from just outside

2875
02:54:59,343 --> 02:55:01,963
of Chirac, right here in FEMA Region No. 5 in

2876
02:55:01,963 --> 02:55:06,963
the morning, everybody, I am Darren O'Neill. And from the

2877
02:55:06,963 --> 02:55:10,983
pretentious Connecticut shore, I'm Larry Blydner. We will be back

2878
02:55:10,983 --> 02:55:14,103
here on Thursday live on the mighty No Agenda stream,

2879
02:55:14,103 --> 02:55:20,373
noagenda.stream. Join us and remember us at noagendadonations.com. Until then,

2880
02:55:20,373 --> 02:55:24,783
hooey, hooey. Thank you for your courage and adios, mofos.

2881
02:55:25,894 --> 02:55:42,923
and such. I ran just dropped the body count Ooh.

2882
02:55:45,054 --> 02:55:51,373
Let it down Kofumak Black widow on a mission Married

2883
02:55:51,373 --> 02:55:55,573
up the elderly Temporary permission 10 husbands minimum Maybe 13,

2884
02:55:55,573 --> 02:56:00,203
15 I don't remember exactly Classic serial scene Diabetes, meds,

2885
02:56:00,203 --> 02:56:03,583
industrial alcohol Pour towel over the face When the pills

2886
02:56:03,583 --> 02:56:07,333
don't score Golden dowry stack In process of elimination Looking

2887
02:56:07,333 --> 02:56:11,603
for Mr. Right Through pure asphyxiation Temporary Every contract Two,

2888
02:56:11,603 --> 02:56:14,443
three months A max Old men dropping Natural until The

2889
02:56:14,443 --> 02:56:17,224
pattern tracks My Xander in court Just handed ten Death

2890
02:56:17,224 --> 02:56:19,763
sentences One family took The blood and money Rest once

2891
02:56:19,763 --> 02:56:22,943
the Consequences Black widow Black widow Still searching For Mr.

2892
02:56:22,943 --> 02:56:25,523
I Ten bodies In the rear view Still ain't found

2893
02:56:25,523 --> 02:56:29,023
The light Poisoning the teeth Well, in the night I

2894
02:56:34,224 --> 02:57:07,253
That's the end of the show. your tire in the

2895
02:57:07,253 --> 02:57:12,183
cold soft leather quiet stitch in ordinary until the current

2896
02:57:12,183 --> 02:57:15,693
starts to flow no badge flash no baton raise high

2897
02:57:15,693 --> 02:57:20,263
just a handshake turned to static they call it de-escalation

2898
02:57:20,263 --> 02:58:12,323
soft power while the voltage Value for value. It's time

2899
02:58:12,323 --> 02:58:15,823
to dissect the narrative. Shit's wild, son. Then it's a

2900
02:58:15,823 --> 02:58:21,243
good thing. There's no commercial break. Homer's height ballroom fight

2901
02:58:21,243 --> 02:58:24,503
fever in the text. Media spin the story to the

2902
02:58:24,503 --> 02:58:28,724
real ones next. Economic jury temporary tenant flexing. The show

2903
02:58:28,724 --> 02:58:31,603
we dissected, lead the rest to rest. Straight, stay blocked

2904
02:58:31,603 --> 02:58:34,573
while the headlines flex. Trump claimed total control. I ran,

2905
02:58:34,573 --> 02:58:37,563
say, check the checks. Besson's economic, fury cutting while it's

2906
02:58:37,563 --> 02:58:41,183
thin. Oil price propaganda, who cash in the spin? Ballroom

2907
02:58:41,183 --> 02:58:44,793
blocked by the circuit court. Temporary tenant, media love that

2908
02:58:44,793 --> 02:58:47,943
retort. People's house of vanity depends which channel you cart.

2909
02:58:48,063 --> 02:58:50,783
You the one decision, scout his next plot. twist bar.

2910
02:58:50,783 --> 02:58:54,144
Fever concerns, Fauci texting the vault. Sight the king, storm

2911
02:58:54,144 --> 02:58:56,713
theory, public line was no fault. 18 shots down to

2912
02:58:56,713 --> 02:59:00,103
11, parental choice to start. Gold standard schedule, media call

2913
02:59:00,103 --> 02:59:02,703
it a cold. Lala skirted a big island, floods in

2914
02:59:02,703 --> 02:59:06,503
the Midwest. Time is script ready, history never addressed. Lebanon

2915
02:59:06,503 --> 02:59:13,813
strikes, children in the lead, Tamosi, smile at theaters. in

2916
02:59:13,813 --> 02:59:18,173
the next. We'll reach out the real ones next. and

2917
02:59:18,173 --> 02:59:20,554
then flex and the show we've dissected even a rest

2918
02:59:20,554 --> 02:59:43,843
of record Get in the morning has brought up is

2919
02:59:43,843 --> 02:59:47,563
Austin's growing homeless population. We spoke with a local agency

2920
02:59:47,563 --> 02:59:51,113
that says affordable housing is the solution to supporting these

2921
02:59:51,113 --> 02:59:54,343
individuals and getting them back on their feet. Ashley Pratt

2922
02:59:54,343 --> 02:59:57,003
is joining us now live from downtown Austin with more

2923
02:59:57,003 --> 02:59:59,923
tonight. Ashley. She walked into her pocket.

2924
03:00:01,200 --> 03:00:04,350
She was the type that you could have cost. That's

2925
03:00:04,350 --> 03:00:13,370
when I... Quarter eye She said that she was from

2926
03:00:13,370 --> 03:00:17,840
the city. I said, baby, you're way too pretty to

2927
03:00:17,840 --> 03:00:25,440
be here. As the junkies all drew near, she said,

2928
03:00:25,440 --> 03:00:28,819
I want to help all the homeless people. I want

2929
03:00:28,819 --> 03:00:32,909
to house all the homeless people too. I want to

2930
03:00:32,909 --> 03:00:37,860
fix all the homeless people. I want to fix homeless

2931
03:00:37,860 --> 03:00:44,270
people like you. Well what else could I do? She

2932
03:00:44,270 --> 03:00:49,760
was standing in my boot. Homeless individuals are not dangerous.

2933
03:00:49,760 --> 03:00:53,420
I asked if she could give me money. I grabbed

2934
03:00:53,420 --> 03:01:00,399
her purse, then I started running away. She gave chase.

2935
03:01:03,200 --> 03:01:07,680
Under a bridge I found my dealer She caught up

2936
03:01:07,680 --> 03:01:13,700
so we had a feel and a rate Well, listen

2937
03:01:14,200 --> 03:01:18,280
pretty great i said you want to help all the

2938
03:01:18,280 --> 03:01:22,790
homeless people you want to house all the homeless people

2939
03:01:22,790 --> 03:01:26,559
you see you want to fix all the homeless people

2940
03:01:26,559 --> 03:01:31,079
you want to fix homeless people like me as the

2941
03:01:31,079 --> 03:01:39,709
vagrants gathered round She lay unconscious on the ground We'll

2942
03:01:39,709 --> 03:01:53,600
grab some junk to ease the pain Take a crap

2943
03:01:54,299 --> 03:02:30,719
the streets. at a drugstore services has left more and

2944
03:02:30,719 --> 03:02:33,420
more people on the streets. She says it was obvious.

2945
03:02:33,600 --> 03:02:36,930
He was mentally unstable. And he kept saying... that I

2946
03:02:36,930 --> 03:02:38,850
have to open the door for him so that he

2947
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could hurt and kill our concierge because she's a robot.

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A homeless man approaches and suddenly smacks her in the

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03:02:45,549 --> 03:02:50,000
head, dumped feces all over her. A bucket of diarrhea.

2950
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It was liquid, hot liquid. I was soaked. You can't

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help all the harmless people You'll never house all the

2952
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homeless people Big Zora. They're pretty aggressive. Even if you

2953
03:03:17,620 --> 03:03:20,520
don't have anything, they kind of come off the roof

2954
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sometimes. So, yeah. can't take so long. You can't fix

2955
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all the homeless people like me You can't fix all

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the homeless people like me You can't fix all the

2957
03:03:37,159 --> 03:03:53,829
homeless people like me Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Oh I

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ain't shh Let's podcast. Dvorak.org slash N-A. But here not,

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baby, here I come.
