chop off your bits. Ooh. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah.
It's Sunday, May 3rd, 2026. This is your award-winning Give
Our Nation Media Assassination episode 1865. This is No Agenda.
Dropping middle names and broadcasting live from the heart of
the Texas hill country here in Phoenix. In the morning
everybody, I'm Adam Curry. One buzzer. In the morning Yeah,
this guy is, he just came out of nowhere, didn't
he? The Spencer Pratt cat? Well, I'll tell you, he
is the social media genius. Oh, yeah, his videos are
fantastic. I think he- Videos plus a bunch of shills?
Shills? What kind of shills? All these different women coming
on with the- It looks like they're going to talk
about one thing, then they talk about Spencer Pratt. And
then there's all these anti-the-other-people videos done anonymously by different
outfits. It's a phenomenon. You gave me a lot of
code there. So women come on different shows? If you
go through Twitter or X, you see some woman. standing
there looks like she's going to get bitch and moan
about something and so she starts complaining as she goes
into a big rant about spencer pratt being the only
solution so it's kind of like a baba buoy Well,
it's a little more advanced than that. Well, of course,
anything is more advanced than the Bubba Booey gag. But,
oh, interesting. So this guy's got legs. When are the
elections for governor? Is that the same November time? No,
it's for mayor of L.A. Oh, mayor. Oh, and when
is that? When is the election for that? I'm November.
Oh, we just had our mayoral election here. On Saturday?
kind of odd. Our guy in Hays won. It wasn't
for Mayer. It was for... school district. I misspoke. But
he won, Alex Zavala. Good. I got here in Fredericksburg
one. Randy Briley. Things are changing. Texas is moving towards
the left, they say. I think not. I think not.
So... I noticed something this past week, which. has never
happened. In the 18 years we've done this show. And.
It's borderline second half of show topic, but maybe not.
When you have a... Mass shooter, a killer, an assassin,
a criminal. We're always looking out for a couple of
clues. Number 33 is a big one. We're always looking
out for You know, the FBI to be in touch
with this person previously. Yes, exactly. Three names. The three
names. Yes, this is usually number one. The three names.
And here's what happened this week in the M5M. Cole
Thomas Allen. Cole Thomas Allen. Cole Thomas Allen. Paul Thomas
Allen. Cole Allen *Captions by: Michael Jackson* Since when has
that ever happened? I don't recall it ever happening. So
that is strange. And I think it's... probably mainly media
trying to Push him up a little. Shh, gotta be
quiet. We can't give this guy three names. That makes
him sound super, super bad. And there were so many
strange things that went down regarding this. Um... You know,
everything is upside down with this guy. You know, let's
get a little refresher on the background of Cole Thomas
Allen. The suspect, 31-year-old Cole Allen, is a teacher from
Torrance, California, south of Los Angeles. He reportedly wrote a
manifesto. Festo to his family and he's been interviewed by
la TV Christine Frizzell reports My impression is he was
a lone wolf, whack job. These are crazy people. President
Donald Trump seemingly unshaken, following a gunman in his vicinity
for the third time. in less than two years. This
suspect, seen in surveillance video running through a security checkpoint
and within moments being captured by law enforcement, is 31-year-old
Cole Thomas Allen from Torrance, California. He reportedly had a
1,000-word manifesto he sent to his family, now published in
the New York Post. friendly federal assassin, describing his targets
as administration officials, not including FBI Director Kash Patel, adding,
"I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile rapist
and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes." He
also mocked the "insane lack of security" at the hotel,
writing, "I walk in with multiple and not a single
person there considers the possibility that I could be a
threat. including the president. Other revelations so far that the
suspect was part of a group called the Wide Awakes
and attended a No Kings protest in California, where he
also was working at an educational counseling and test prep
company. The wheelchair breaks. Back in 2017, a local ABC
station interviewed him about an emergency wheelchair break. So this
is still, here he's still Cole Allen Thomas. And this,
you know, the whole thing about this guy fits. It
works perfectly. in our cesspool of cynicism, which is what
we are surrounded with everywhere. social media, podcasts, our very
own Troll Room. And so here's NewsNation. NewsNation. who now
lead the charge by dropping the middle name. But they
did dive into this Wide Awakes, which almost nobody did.
Have you ever heard of the Wide Awakes? No. It's
a historical group! As the administration is working on reviewing
how to best protect our president, the FBI is working
on finding out exactly who Cole Allen is. What news
nation? Did you forget his middle name? Led him to
attempt this attack on the president. They forgot his last
name. President. Investigators say Allen professed to be part of
a loosely... organized progressive group known as the Wide Awakes,
which has roots dating back to when Abraham Lincoln was
elected president. Investigative correspondent Rich McHugh joins us live. So
Rich, this is a grade school teacher with no criminal
record. That's right, Nicole. You know, we're learning more and
more about. Cole Allen, as the days pass here. And
the group that he was apparently aligned with, that his
sister told authorities that he was a member of, called
the Wide Awakes. Here's what we know about this group
and his affiliation with them at this time. So the
Wide Awakes appear to be part of a group called
the Sunrise Movement. It's a political movement or organization which
wants to end billionaire rule and stop the climate crisis
that it wants Donald Trump. Out of power. One of
their activist campaigns is Ice Out for Good, focusing on
ice, and members of that campaign call themselves wide-awakes, quite
literally agitators whose sole purpose is to is to disrupt
ICE. In Los Angeles and Minneapolis this past winter, they
held no sleep for ICE protests outside of ICE hotels
with the goal of getting ICE out of their cities.
They've held these protests in Portland and in D.C. too.
On their website, they write, for almost a year, Donald
Trump has been using ICE as an occupying army. to
intimidate and repress those who would stand against him. To
win climate action, we need to live in a democracy,
and that means preventing Donald Trump from establishing his own
personal Gestapo. The origins of this group and this name,
as you mentioned, go way back to the pre-Civil War
era. At that time, the wide-awake... a movement dedicated to
abolishing slavery. They protected abolitionist politicians from violence while relentlessly
harassing pro-slavery politicians. showing up at their homes, banging pots
and pans. This is so strange. It's like it's upside
down. Pro-abolitionists that were... That happened during Lincoln's time? And
they're part of the Sunrise Movement? These kids who were
singing and in the hallways. Something is very strange about
all this. Well, the Sunrise Movement website... yeah is way
too slick with too many uh professionally designed logos and
signage Uh... and symbolism. I'm looking at it now. Yeah,
signage and symbolism, exactly. So the charge was, while you're
looking at that, the charge was led by former President
Obama, who's like, this is the craziest thing. I don't
understand this at all. Barack Obama claims that no one
knows the motive of Cole Allen, the man who tried
to assassinate President Trump at the White House Correspondents Dinner,
allegedly. is also getting backlash for claiming to reject political
violence, saying, quote, Although we don't yet have the details
about the motives behind the shooting at the White House
Correspondents' Dinner, it's incumbent upon us all to reject the
idea that violence has any place in our democracy. It's
also a sobering reminder of the... courage and sacrifice that
U.S. Secret Service agents show every day. I'm grateful to
them and thankful that the agent who was shot is
going to be okay. People immediately called him out for
being a hypocrite. Allen left a detailed manifesto about his
motive. He wrote that he was, quote, no longer willing
to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat his
hands with crimes and planned to target Trump and administration
officials. Investigators confirmed the manifesto and his social media were
full of anti-Trump and anti-Christian rants. He followed accounts like
Representative AOC, Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, and Senator Elizabeth Warren.
His sister told police he talked about doing something to
fix the world and that he had ties to radical
groups like the Wide Awakes and the No Kings protests
in California. But Obama still claimed nobody knows the motive,
even though the manifesto was already public. And Attorney General
Todd Blanch in D.C. police said the motive was. clear
anti-Trump bias. Meanwhile, Obama has repeatedly warned that Trump is
a threat to democracy and an authoritarian. He has said
things like Trump threatens the very foundations of our democracy
and compared to some of his actions to those of
strongmen, which is basically dictators who rule with personal power
instead of... following normal democratic rules. Conservatives point out that
Obama and his fellow Democrats spend years pushing the narrative
that Trump is dangerous, illegitimate, and a threat to the
country. They continually demonize Trump in attacks that are repeated
by the mainstream media and amplified on platforms like Blue
Sky. Blue Sky, yes, and then. On the PBS NewsHour.
I checked your clips. You didn't have them. I was
happy because I had a find. as I was paddling
in your water. Listen to what Brooks said. I look
at the 2028 election with a great sense of foreboding.
And if you look at who thinks violence is justified.
It tends to be younger people by a lot. Most
progressives and most conservatives oppose violence, but you get two
and a half times as many progressives saying it's justified
than not. But what strikes me about this guy, about
the guy who shot in Butler, about the guy who
shot Charlie Cook, Kirk. They haven't seemed to have thought
about it that much. They're radicals who have a big
manifesto and an ideology. It seems almost flippant the way
they go into these things, almost like half-thought-through and jokey.
And I can't quite make sense of what that kind
of lighthearted nihilism that drives people to, on a whim
almost, do something that is horrific and life-changing. two and
a half times more likely to be the left, David
Brooks says. I've never heard him go off the reservation
like that before. In fact, his compagnon, Capehart, was just
flustered. Jonathan, how do you look at it? Well, excuse
me, I'm not going to... just let the comment that,
you know, progressives, you know, more than folks in the
far right are, you know, think that violence is justified.
It is something that the American people feel. They're a
little more comfortable with it than they were, say, five
or ten years ago. You and I were in that
room. we walked through the magnetometers together. We stood in
that spot. The thing now a week out that I've
been thinking about. And I keep coming back to it,
is that when I heard the five bangs, I remember
hearing five very loud bangs. Bang, bang, bang. My immediate
action was so instinctive. Drop to the floor under the
table and be quiet. Like a little girl. I've never
been in a situation like that. But as an American,
and certainly as a journalist, having to cover all of
these things and to listen to the recordings and the
films, you sort of learn through osmosis. what to do.
And to me, the bigger issue here is gun violence.
Why was I not surprised that this had happened? And
I've been to that dinner at least a dozen times
since 2000. Because I'm important. And so, yeah, there's an
issue of... you know People feeling that political violence is
the way to go and that we are in a
highly charged atmosphere. But what's been sort of a specter
over all of us for even longer is the scourge
of gun violence. Yeah, good try. No one is picking
up on that. No one is going with gun violence
at this time. Even MS now formerly known as MSNBC,
MSNOW, even they are seeing what's really happening. This is
a person who attended one of the most prestigious STEM
universities in the country, the California Institute of Technology, Caltech,
got an engineering undergrad degree, got a master's in computer
science and was working. As Mika said early on, he
was working as a part-time teacher, but he described himself
as a game developer. You can find video online of
him touting a wheelchair invention that allowed wheelchairs to be
more stable. This was an accomplished, articulate person with a
loving family, apparently. who went down a path of radicalization.
And the reason we know that is he's written a
thousand word document where he describes exactly why he did
this. And he describes President Trump as a pedophile and
a racist rapist. He doesn't say he was targeting Donald
Trump. He says he was targeting Trump administration officials. He
apologizes to his family in this post. attended or was
associated with a no kings protest. So it really fits
the pattern of what we've seen with Luigi Mangione, accused
of killing the United Healthcare CEO, or Tyler Robinson, accused
of killing Charlie Kirk, of the sort of people on
the far left fringes who have become radicalized. who are
living in a world of unreality, bombarded by conspiracy theories,
who decide that they have to take violent action. And
it's contributing to a climate of political violence in this
country that we have not seen since the 1960s. So
more questions will be asked, and the FBI is pouring
over. This man's writings and his social media, they serve
a search warrant. They were at his house in Torrance,
California yesterday. So a lot more investigation still being done.
But that that thousand word document that's being that's been
widely published and Donald Trump commented on it last night
on 60 Minutes, that says a lot about and explains
a lot about. what appear to be the motives here,
guys. So there's a cycle, I think, at play here.
And, you know, we're seeing some, as they say, some
of this is like the 60s political violence all over
again. And what are the chances that Anna Polina Luna?
Which I think she should be on the radio. She
do a morning show. Right now we've got Annapolina Luna.
She's down there with the prize van. Annapolina, what you
got? She has hearings coming up on May 13th. which
we've been talking about for pretty much 18 years on
this show. From Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, I think our
next task... force hearing will be on mk ultra and
from the daily mail which she reposted declassified cia files
revealed chilling blueprint to manipulate americans minds through covert drugging
with vaccines So I went down memory lane, looked at
a couple of clips that we played in the past,
and the one thing missing from all of the mainstream...
M5M analysis for a long time. is the modern version
of MKUltra, which is not necessarily the CIA. I don't
know about vaccines, but we know what it is. We
know exactly what it is. SSRIs. You're going to get
on the air and say, hey, we just give it.
This is from 2013. It's a sedative at night. When
even Thom Hartman could talk about it. Don't even use
it as an antidepressant anymore. And they're not going to
tell you that it's an SSRI reuptake inhibitor. Does that
sound familiar? Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, which is the same
family of drugs as... Axel and what's the most famous
one of all? Prozac. You wrote a book talking about
Prozac. Prozac, Axel, Zoloft. And the thing about it is
that it's not selective. It's just a reuptake inhibitor of
serotonin, but it also inhibits the reuptake of some other
drugs. But it's in that class of the drugs. So
it increases the levels of circulating serotonin. And these drugs,
these SSRI drugs, all of them have suicide or homicide
associated with them, do they not? They do. They do.
Yeah, don't worry about the sounds. We'll just... Oh, yeah,
you can hear me shuffling around. It's hard to hear
here anyway. I have so much equipment set up. That's
quite all right. Not to worry, Dr. Bregan. We're talking
with Dr. Peter Bregan, a practicing psychiatrist and the author
of Medication Madness, among other books. And he's pointing out
that the Navy Yard shooter was on an SSRI drug.
SSRI drugs have been associated with, correct me if I'm
wrong, most of the mass shootings that we know of
in the... in the history of the United States. Is
that, is that an accurate statement? So. Perhaps we're just
missing the obvious here? that a good portion of our
country, certainly people in their 30s, 20s and 30s and
younger, but it's always, you know, the kids, the kids,
the kids. Hey, it's the moms. It's the young dads.
It's the young people. It's the young... It's the incels.
Sorry, incels. They're all on these SSRIs. And if all
day long, all day long, you get messaging from... President
Barack Obama from everybody on the blue cry. I mean,
I saw the video of that guy walking around the
hotel hallways back and forth. These people are, in effect,
modern MKUltra. It's not that hard. Well, this is a
new thesis. I like it. I mean, see, and really,
when you think about it... This stuff has been going
on since the 50s with these drugs. That really brought
this home first was a drug called... reserping, which has
been used to treat people who had hypertension. Now, it
also became used as a drug to treat people who
are anxious, a drug to treat kids who are hyperactive,
a drug to treat people who are depressed, and a
drug to treat people who have psychosis. But the interesting
thing was that people being treated with hypertension, of course,
had no nervous problems at all. And they would say,
I mean, there are reporters saying when they're in treatment
in places like the Mayo Clinic, good clinics, they're reported
as, say, you know, the first few doses I became.
very agitated. I began having thoughts that were very unusual
for me. Tostad included things like... like homicide. And it
was only when I came off the drug that I
realized it must have been the drug that did this.
So that was there very early on. in the 1950s.
The reason we know about it, and everybody agrees, Recipent
does these things. It makes you depressed. It makes you
suicidal. It makes you homicidal. Everybody agrees about that because
this is a drug that was cheap and generic, and
no pharmaceutical company had any interest to defend it. But
when exactly the same things begin to happen on the
later antipsychotics and the SSRIs we have now, of course,
the pharmaceutical companies are making billions of dollars out of
this, and they have every interest to defend the drug
and tell people, no, heart drug couldn't cause this. So...
Maybe it never really even was the true MKUltra. Maybe
the algo is the MKUltra trigger. Maybe I've been looking
at this in the wrong way. Like, oh, it's got
to be the CIA doing it. No, it's all around
us all the time. And Brooks maybe sees it. Capehart,
he's probably on him. No, it's gun violence. Scourge of
gun violence. Guns. No, no. The guy had knives just
in case, as an aside. So there's, there is something
that the mainstream media. can't report on because they still
have the drug companies as their largest advertisers. No one's
going to do any news reports on it. And no
one, not even the. The big three, you know, the
CBS, NBC, ABC, they're not going to do it. But
this seems to me... No, they're beholden. They are completely...
They're locked in, locked and loaded. Co-opted. Yes. So it's
no wonder that a guy like this, just add blue
sky. Oh. They're captured. Yeah, they are captured. I can
go on. That's good. You got any more? I like
it. Captured, beholden. captured yeah yeah co-opted co-opted co-opted yes
co-opted captured We need more Cs. So... Which reminded me,
I wanted to mention this to you before we did
the show, which was to dig up Kennedy's... Promise. Oh,
his three promises? Where he had these four things he
was going to do. stop the corruption of the... of
the periodicals, uh, stop TV advertising. Yeah. There was a
promise. I think it was, was it called promise? It
was some sort of promise or something. RFK promise. Maybe
that's what it was. I don't think it was. It's
probably this label. We'll never find it. No, we'll find
it. I don't think he's done anything. All he's done
so far is he talks a lot, talks a big
game, but he just seems to have just gotten the
red dye out of food and that's about it. And
that wasn't even one of his promises. He's turned the
pyramid upside down. RFK, was it promises? Was it, no,
it was something else. It was like a to-do list
for him. Yeah, I'm mad now that I, why can't
I find this? Jr. Well, one of them was... advertising
so maybe I can find it that way. Oh, RFK.
Okay, RFK Jr. Junior Dangerous, was that it? Yes, I
have them. Ready? Go. Number one. I'm not intimidated by
the agencies. I know how they work and I know
how to change them. And most of those changes you
do not need Congress for. The President of President Trump
could have done it at power to do it himself
and President Biden has the power to do it himself.
And I'll give you an example. With a stroke of
the pen. You can change back the rule. That allows
pharmaceutical advertisers to do direct-to-consumer ads on television. That's one
of the big problems. That's one of the reasons. We
have this entrenched agency capture not only of Congress because
they control the airwaves, they control the evening news. 75%
of the revenues for those evening news shows are, you
know, Anderson Cooper is coming from Pfizer, another pharmaceutical company,
and those companies are dictating content on those shows and
they dictate the... the official narratives and they're able then
to exercise huge control over Congress. So Congress is terrified
of them, but with a stroke of the pen. You
can say this is not good for the health of
our country, which it isn't. We spend three times more
than any other country for pharmaceutical drugs because of all
this advertising. Okay, that was one. Promise number two. Another
thing that I can do is I can open up
all the databases. Right now, all the databases that you
can actually check the efficacy and the safety of vaccines,
like the vaccine safety database. It's the top. It's all
the vaccine records and the medical. claims for 10 million
Americans from the top 10 HMOs. You can look in
there and overnight you can say, oh, this vaccine is
associated with diabetes. This one's associated with peanut allergies. This
one's associated with ASD, neurological ticks or whatever. That database,
CDC keeps it in a lockbox. like Fort Knox, and
make sure no scientist is allowed in there. Well, I'll
open up that database on day one. Day one? Day
one, I'm still waiting to make my claim about being
vaccine injured in Tourette's. And then the final, I promise.
And, you know, I'll also bring all the medical journals.
the New England Journal of Medicine, the Lancet, JAMA, into
the Justice Department as soon as I appoint an AG.
And I'll say to them, you guys are part of
a racketeering syndicate. You're collaborating with these pharmaceutical industry. lie
to the American public about the efficacy and safety of
these products and you're causing enormous harm and we are
going to sue you both civilly for damages and we're
going to sue you criminally unless you come up with
a plan right now as to how you're going to
stop doing that. So I have a like I have
a hundred things that I'm going to do immediately. Well,
um... A hundred, he said. He said a hundred. Didn't
he just say that right there? He said a hundred.
A hundred things. He's done one. On the advertising. I
think he's done more than one. They did indict that
one dude from the Wuhan lab. We'll see. We'll see.
We'll see. He's right-hand man. We'll see where that goes.
He got to the 11th. But on the advertising... The
damage is done. The only thing, if you take away
the big pharma advertising, The only thing that might achieve,
and that's a big might, is that there would be
reports about SSRIs. I mean, we go back to Shempton.
Shantix? Enchantix which they couldn't tell you that you know,
I still believe Anthony Bourdain would be alive today if
he hadn't taken shantyx You know, that stuff makes you
crazy. Or made you crazy, or allegedly made you crazy.
We have tons of reports. People waking up naked. A
lot of reports from our producers. Waking up naked on
the neighbor's lawn. I don't know how I got here.
What the heck? But so the SSRIs, I think that
is, I mean, even if you stopped advertising, kids have
breaks in school these days. You know, 12-year-olds. Oh, all
right, everybody, 10, 15, time for everybody to take your
meds. Teacher, gotta take my meds. Everyone's gonna take their
meds. Ah, it's so entrenched. When I was a kid,
nobody took meds. No, you took meds, you were a
weenie. What are you? What's wrong with you? What's your
meds? That is the... That is the basis of the
problem. But then you just need to add inflammatory language
and expose everybody to it. And it's not just kids.
The people taking these drugs are 30. 20s, 30s, 40s,
50s. Okay, back in the day we had Mom's Little
Helper. Bye. Which was, what was that mom's, was that
Prozac? It was a tranquilizer, it's different. Yes. Yeah. The
SSRIs, admittedly, they don't even really know how they work.
They just work. Yeah. So. Although I was gonna laugh
at him. Chuck Todd kinda has the right idea. He's
such a weenie. Listen to Chuck Todd. You know, Chuck
Todd does podcasts now these days. I'm not going to
any more events where Trump's at them. I don't feel
safe. Wherever Donald Trump is. Chaos follows him. Chaos follows
him. And you are less safe, right? If you decide
to go into his orbit, you have become less safe.
He's just, he does not care about your safety. protect
you if you go into his orbit because he's always
going to protect himself first. He's more likely to throw
you under the bus. He's more likely to have you
be the target of Iranian assassins if you're John Bolton
or Mike Pompeo. And he's going to pull any sort
of federal support, right? You know, I think about when
somebody using Donald Trump's words and actions targeted me and
a bunch of other members of the press. You know
who I didn't hear from? Donald Trump. Right. So the
guy doesn't care when people commit violence in his name.
He only cares when the violence is committed against him,
and he does not see that he is a contributor
to the atmospherics of the world we're living in right
now. Okay. So anyway, all eyes on the cesspool of
cynicism that is social media, because anyone could fall prey
to this. Anyone. It's not even a political spectrum anymore.
It's just whatever you've been inundated with, whatever has been
injected into you. into your brain. We weren't built for
this. We weren't built for this type of information, this
ingestation. We can't handle it. And especially not if we're
on drugs that no one really knows how they work.
But they might make you homicidal or suicidal. Okay. What
could possibly go wrong? There, now I'm being cynical. Yep,
you are. Yeah. Let's stick with Kennedy. Are we done
with this thesis? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we are.
Yeah, the thesis is done. Yes, the thesis is over.
But we'll follow it closely. Oh, yes, because there's something
up. I'm going to probably take the side that... It
does slant. you politically. The SSRIs by itself slant you
politically? Yeah, I'm going that way. Well, by the same
reasoning, it may want you to chop off your bits.
Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. So here we have-- Kennedy. Yeah, it's
a true story. He did, you know, he's... You know,
again, he's got these promises he's going to do 100
things he's done. Yeah, maybe five. Yeah. But let's, here
he is at a hearing and kind of backing off
on some of his thinking. Kenny Jr. hadn't testified on
Capitol Hill since September. That changed this past week. He's
just wrapped up seven hearings with several House and Senate
committees. The topic was supposed to be his agency's budget,
but lawmakers asked him questions far beyond that. Today, Kennedy
testified before two Senate committees, Finance and HELP, which stands
for Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. NPR's Selena Simmons-Duffins was...
watching and is here to give us the highlights. Hey,
Selena. Hi, Rob. Okay, so how did the hearings go
today? You know, there were some intense moments, which wasn't
a big surprise because Secretary Kennedy has gone into shouting
matches with lawmakers many times over the last year. I
was listening carefully to how Kennedy talked about vaccines. Prior
to joining the Trump administration... Of course, he built his
reputation on anti-vaccine activism, but then there has been some
reporting that the White House is worried about his stance
and policy changes on vaccines as a political liability because
his positions are pretty unpopular. Here is an exchange with
Democratic Senator Michael Bennett of Colorado about the measles vaccine,
and he references CDC acting director... Are you taking the
position as your CDC director has taken that the measles
vaccine is vital to keeping American children healthy in this
country? Are you taking that position today? That has not
been your position. That's my position. We promote the measles
vaccine. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Huh, that's his position. So
is that a new position for Kennedy? You know, the
moment did strike me as a bit of a shift
because Kennedy usually says that the measles vaccine is effective
for those who decide to take it, framing it as
a personal decision, which is not really how public health
works. So him agreeing with the statement that the measles
vaccine is close. What? vital to keeping American children healthy
in this country was definitely notable. Although I don't want
to overstate it. In most hearings, most of the time,
Kennedy still hedged when he was talking about promoting vaccines.
Wait a minute. I'm misunderstanding how public health works. Apparently
public health only works if things are mandated. Yes, if
they tell you what to do. You must do this.
or else you cannot make a choice my body myself
forget it Yeah. That's what she said. Yeah. NPR, baby.
Yeah, I caught that, too. Here's part two, which is
kind of interesting. Okay, so we heard a Democratic senator
ask him questions. How did Republican senators question Kennedy? They
were, by and large, very friendly. They wanted to talk
about, you know, certain policy issues. There was a lot
of praise. How old is she? Twelve? I'm just trying
to guess by the voice. And agreements to work together.
I was really at the edge of my seat when
Republican Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana questioned Kennedy because there's
been this simmering conflict between the two men. Cassidy is
a physician. He supports vaccines. He made Kennedy promise not
to make big policy changes in exchange for his confirmation
vote. Kennedy has violated those promises, and I was really
expecting Cassidy to challenge Kennedy about those policies. Instead, he
expressed concern. I am a doctor who has seen people
die from vaccines. preventable diseases. And when I see outbreaks
numbering in the thousands and people dying once more from
vaccine preventable diseases, particularly children, it seems more than tragic.
That was very striking for Cassidy to go relatively easy
on Kennedy when it comes to vaccines. Now, Cassidy is
facing a... tough primary race in Louisiana, and President Trump
has endorsed a rival in that race. These hearings were
ostensibly about the Health and Human Services budget. What did
you learn there? Yeah, not a lot. There really weren't
a lot of questions about the budget, even though Kennedy
has made some big changes. He's cut 20,000 people from
the staff of HHS. He's requesting a budget cut for
next year. He's proposed eliminating whole agencies. He was asked
a few times about programs that were being zeroed out.
One of them is Title 10, which is a federal
program that provides free birth control and STI testing to
low-income people. And each time he was asked, he would
say the national debt is... really high. We have to
make cuts somewhere. But there was also strikingly little about
his plan to stand up a new agency called the
Administration for a Healthy America. He would need Congress's help
to do that. And there was really no progress on
that front last year. It really doesn't sound like there's
going to be a priority for Kennedy for this year
either. Now, did you watch the hearing at all? Did
you have a chance to watch any of the other
things that were going on? I watched a little bit
of it, but I didn't get to watch the whole
thing. I mean, is he just a disappointment? No, I
think he's pinned in. by the bureaucracies, by the underlings.
It's just a, it's a night, you know, he doesn't.
From the outside, as a lawyer suing them, you know,
it looks like one kind of animal. But when you're
the animal, it's like a completely different thing, a structure
you're not familiar with. You've never been the head of
an agency. It's all new to you, and you have
no idea how the... how the mech there's a mechanism
in all these agencies that overwhelms you. He can't do
this, he can't do that. When he gets outside and
just starts talking normally to people in these various podcasts
he does, he gets to talk about stuff that he'd
love to do, but you can tell he can't do
it. Here's a clip from him on a pod. talking
about the chickenpox vaccine. When CDC was thinking of recommending
this chickenpox vaccine as mandatory for children. They did a
study and the scientists they hired to do that study
was a scientist called Gary Goldman, a contract scientist. And
he did this study in an isolated place in California
called Antelope Valley, a long-term study. And what they find
is if you give the chickenpox vaccine, mass vaccinate with
chickenpox, it stops chickenpox, but it causes it. Shingles epidemics.
later on. which are 20 times as deadly as chickenpox.
So if you go, so nevertheless, despite those studies, we
mandated for American children in this country. In Europe, they
don't. If you go to the British National Health Service
website right now, you can read on that where they
say, we do not recommend chickenpox vaccines because it causes
shingles. Epidemics later on and that's the problem. You can't
just look at you know, you can say that this
product is going to prevent this particular disease. But you
have to look at the long term. Yeah. I mean,
but what is it? I mean, I don't quite understand.
You look at... Trump and Trump doesn't give a crap.
But anything, I'm going to do this. I don't care
if you don't like it. A lot of stuff is
ineffective because the judges shut it down. The system shuts
it down. He's in court a lot. That's annoying. The
fact that he's got this Iran war thing as far
as it goes. as it got is pretty amazing. Yeah,
I agree. But Trump is, and Trump's also on his
second go round. His first go round, he was completely
flustered. They had him in, you know, on this Russia
hoax thing, which Obama was behind. Had him on the
hook. You know, he was, he got nowhere. So, and
that was four years of frustration. to impeachments. So Kennedy's
just, you know, stumbled into this thing. He thinks he's
going to, you know, he... discussed earlier how cool it
was that he would get this job and thank God
for his prayers were answered that he could be the
head of this thing and kick some ass. And now
he's in there and he's kicking no ass. as far
as I can tell, and I don't think that he's
ever going to. It would take him at least four
years to untangle the web of deceit. So as we
say in Texas, like stepping in a red anthill, fire
ants. Get in there. That would be bad. Get in.
Oh, man. There was something else that happened around Kennedy's
orbit this week. Here in Washington, President Trump making a
big move, dropping his controversial nominee for surgeon general after
her confirmation got stalled on the Hill because of opposition
from his own party, from Republicans. Here's the president in
the last couple of hours formally signing that withdrawal. After
months of questions about whether the Senate would actually confirm
Dr. Casey Means, she was his previous pick. Lawmakers on
both sides of the aisle had criticized her for not
being supportive of enough vaccines, for promoting the use of
psychedelic drugs as therapy, for previously criticizing Americans' use of
birth control, saying it had horrifying health risks, and over
her qualifications generally. So she has now been pulled. The
president and health secretary today are both blaming this guy,
Senator Bill Cassidy, a Republican, for, in their view, sabotaging
means is confirmation. New pick. Here she is, a radiologist
and Fox News contributor. The president says she is a
star physician. We should note here this switch up marks
the president's... third Surgeon General nominee. Monica Alba is at
the White House. An interesting sort of, I don't know
if you want to call it a back down, it
feels like an acknowledgement of the reality here, that Casey
Means was stuck in this limbo, and I think it
seems like the President just wants to move on. Fair?
What are you hearing? I think that's absolutely fair, Hallie.
It's been almost a year since he did nominate Casey
Means, and ultimately realized that she just wasn't going to
have the support, wasn't going to be able to get
across the finish line for a Surgeon General, so he
did withdraw her nomination. But you just mentioned all of
the key players here, and we can unpack that a
little bit, because Senator Cassidy had been a crucial vote
in order to confirm HHS Secretary Kennedy, right? Given some
of the promises that at the time, Senator Cassidy had...
said he had received from him on certain policy. And
then you have Casey Means, who is a very close
ally of Secretary Kennedy. And Secretary Kennedy is pretty disappointed
and upset today, writing on X that he believes that
this was basically a large attempt to get someone who
has been, he says, by removing this appointment and technically
and very directly criticizes Senator Cassidy. And he says he
once again did the dirty work for entrenched interests seeking
to stall the Maha movement. This is what Secretary Kennedy
is writing about Senator Cassidy and, quote, protect the very
status quo that has made America the sickest nation on
earth. I agree with that. And Cassidy's a bad actor.
He's obviously co-opted by the pharma. And that's what he
did. Yeah, he's a doctor, so he's got creds. And
he's got this comment about, oh, yeah, vaccines have saved
lives. Yeah, in areas where you have, like... yellow fever
and typhus and you have classic vaccines yeah they do
they stop it Yeah. But he's also all in on
mRNA, which is not a vaccine at all. No. And,
you know, the rest of it. It's just like, or,
and the flu shot every year, which, as we know,
because we have the clips, and we have the documentation.
That gives you the flu. gives you the flu so
what you know but he's all in on that too
this is so the corruption is beyond again get pharma
ads off tv So there was a new side effect
of our favorite drug, although is it a drug? You
know, they should call it a vaccine. seen since you
injected GLP-1. I mean, if mRNA is a vaccine, then
why not? It's a fat vaccine. Yeah, a fat vaccine.
So the idea is you take the GLP-1, you inject
it. Some people have resorted to saying, no, no, no,
no, I'm microdosing it. Yeah, that's what it is. Of
course you're microdosing it. It's what I said for 15
years. What? 15? Since I was 15 years old. I'm
just microdosing the weed. I'm okay. Don't worry about me.
So, you know, your butt falls off, your face falls
in. You're doing this to look better by losing weight.
What's that over there? Your muscle fades away. And now...
As GLP-1 drugs help millions of Americans lose weight, more
and more users report dealing with side effects like hair
loss. And that's creating a billion-dollar opportunity for the hair
treatment industry. Oh, it's an opportunity. It's not just a
trend. I will call it an old category reset with
a wide space of... of opportunity for both life science
and beauty brands. I spoke with one GLP-1 user who
experienced hair loss while she was on the weight loss
drug. She said she used to have really thick hair,
but it took a full year before she noticed it
was falling out in clumps. In clumps, I tell you.
In clumps. Wow. So you want to look better by
losing some weight. And the result is. You lose your
libido. You lose your butt, you lose your face, and
you lose your hair. Congratulations, you weigh five pounds. Come
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why don't you lead us down the path and I'll
fill it in. So the onion, you know, ended up
winning the bid and it was explained by some lawyers
and it makes some sense. Onion wanted to turn it
into a parody site, a parody of what InfoWars was.
Well, here we go, new InfoWars 1. Hi, everybody. It's
Tim Heidecker here. I'm broadcasting now live on the Internet.
Thank you for joining me. We have major, major announcements
to go through here. Lots going on. Lot of turmoil
the past couple days on our road. To total victory,
we have just won a major battle, folks. Okay, Alex
and his gang of liars and scoundrels have been cast
out into the street. They have lost InfoWars, InfoWars.com, and
their various platforms now. They have been cast out, ladies
and gentlemen. And make no mistake. we will be the
new InfoWars. Now, we've got to go through the machinations
of the court, and we've had some setbacks over the
past couple of days, but that is not stopping us.
It is not tempering our resolve. You know, as a
fake Alex Jones, that's actually not bad. It's not bad,
but then here's where I... Here's where I drew the
line. The fake Alex Jones brings in a fake Donald
Trump. And this is just just to preface it. The
word I mean, there is a million people that can
do Trump. Why they got this guy. This is the
worst of the worst. Lots going on here. Do we
have anybody on the line? There's... I want to say,
Tim, hello. This is the President of the United States
of America. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the President of
the United States, Donald J. Trump, a man that I
have recently been feuding with over some of his... policy
decisions, but a man that I believe is a good
man and he's going to find his way through all
this. But sir, it is a pleasure to have you
on here. Thank you. We're going to have our disagreement.
We're going to have our fights, but we love each
other. And when we love... Love can conquer all. Okay.
Now, is this recent? This is old, isn't it? This
has got to be old. No, it's just they're using
the Infowars website. They're doing this now? Yeah. That's what
I said, especially the Trump. That was the end. I
cut it off. I'm not going to be listening to
the great parodies. So Alex Jones signed off the InfoWars.
on Friday at 12 o'clock. Everybody who's been working on
the show is in the studio. I didn't clip it.
They were like, toasting. This is it, the end of
an era. And they said goodbye to InfoWars. And so
I immediately texted Sir Ducifer. I'm like, dude, what's going
on? He says, oh, no, AlexJonesLive.com. Just, we need to
get rid of all the baggage of InfoWars. The name,
the trademark, the domain name. So now it's just alexjoneslive.com.
It's the same guy, same thing. Same deal. Same products.
Same dynamite products. But I'm sure, which has always been
an interesting business model, I thought. Well, according to the
lawyers that were doing an analysis, I don't have any
clips from that. Uh... Jones was doing 36 million in...
pill sales. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. Yeah. Wouldn't surprise
me. Uh, okay. He also had a bunch of weird
domain names. He was squatting on, uh... Probably, uh... 5
000 names including because i looked at the lists that
were going through them yeah Joe Rogan exposed dot com.
Hey, I've got a lot of winners, too. But, you
know, I was going through my domains because I have
to pare down. Because I have just too many. And
some of them, if you get like a... You know,
different dot somethings. Like, Dotto. You don't want a .fm.
.fm is 150 bucks a year. No, it's too much.
It's way too much. When I registered MTV.com, I emailed
the dude. In charge of the internec. I said, hey,
can I have MTV.com? Sure. Do you want anything else?
Yeah, curry.com, elvis.com. Okay, you got them. It's good. No
charge. Nothing. Back in the day. It was good times
back in the internet days. That's when art.com Yeah. Sold
for a million dollars. Yeah. I still have diaries. You
know, I have Infowars.nl. You know, your diaries thing seems
to me to be... It's unsellable. I don't get it.
Well, on the last show, I said I'd give you
$200,000 if you got me a million. I'm working on
it. I'm going to agent this thing for you. And
then we're going to get a NetJets. We're going to
the Bahamas, baby. I'm gonna blow it all in one
go. You deserve it. I have Infowars.com. NL for some
odd reason. I don't know why. I would get rid
of that. No kidding. No kidding. I have a couple
of clips. I'm sorry. Did you want to do something
else? Yeah, I was going to do one more screwball
clip. Yeah, sure. So Tucker... It was front page of
New York Times. He was interviewed by this reporter who
actually turns out to be quite good at doing follow-up
questions with Tucker. Oh, like an actual reporter, an interviewer,
someone who's doing something? She was pretty good. She nailed
this guy. I have two clips from it. Now there's
one that says... Antichrist. And what's the other one? I
don't have it on this list. Kidnapper, Utah. Transgeneer. Kidnapper.
Transgeneer. No, no. It says Tucker. No, it says. Oh,
hold on a second. Oh, no. I have. No, I
only have. Oh, Tucker on J.D. Vance. Yes. Yeah. Dick.
Got it. Play that. JD has been subject to, this
is well known, but I'll just confirm it. Hold on,
stop it right there. He starts off about J.D. Vance
being, you know, they're out to get him. He says,
it's well known, but I'll confirm it. Well, he always
has facts. He's confirming what? He has facts. He has
inside information. So this woman does not put up with
this. So let's start it over and note that he's
trying to buffalo this poor girl and she's not buying
a word of it. She sees him as a phony.
Who is this girl? What is her name? I don't
have Renee in my hand. We got to keep an
eye on her. If she's good, she's good. JD has
been subject to, this is well known, but I'll just
confirm it, nonstop, treachery from people on the neoconservative side.
Who are these people? Around Marco Rubio. And they have
been totally against JD Vance from the very beginning. Who
do you mean specifically? You know, I don't know is
the real answer. I don't know. You're accusing people of
treachery, so I'm wondering. Well, I know there's been a
lot of treachery, for sure, and I know they were
so mad about J.D. getting that job. They? Who's they?
Within the White House? I don't, you know, I don't
know the answer to that. I've never worked... So like
if you don't work there you can say you you
know you can say what you think you know But
it's hard to really know. This is me looking skeptical.
Yeah, well no I just mean being honest like I
don't really know you know okay that this is a
very good clip And the reason why is this is
how... My cousin, Lucy, loved her dearly when she was
a little girl. She was married to Christopher Buckley. which
is the son of William F. Buckley Jr., etc., etc.
Oh, they're not married anymore? I thought they still were.
Oh, no. They got divorced a long time ago. She
had the house in Georgetown. She had the 66 Corvette.
I mean, everything. Perfect. Perfect DC family. And this is
how the Beltway talks. The way Tucker talks. And he's
been there most of his life as well as Buckley,
his brother, the Carlson kids. And this is how you
talk at a dinner party. You know, and you just
say these things and you throw out there, you know,
there's a lot of no. knows this and I'll confirm
it. And, you know, there's a lot of these people
and it's a fact, you know, it's just a fact.
And no one in those circles will question it like
this woman is. And so he's so used to just
throwing that out there because someone told him, someone within
the Beltway crowd who he trusts. And that's not, you
know, that's. I understand that. You know, someone's connected to
someone else. Oh, I must know what they're talking about.
So he's being called out on his milieu. It's me,
yeah. Well, she did a good job there. So in
the next clip, he comes up with she and she's
a reporter for The New York Times. And so she.
reads it, she reads. A quote from him. that is
written down word for word for word, and he denies
saying it. And so in the middle of this next
clip, I could have divvied this up a little differently,
but right in the middle of the clip, you'll hear
a slight different intonation, and that's Tucker. saying the quote
From a, you know, from some, some, they bring in
a clip on his podcast. Yeah. They bring in a
clip of him and then they go back to Tucker
still denying it. This is fascinating. What I was saying,
which is you cannot mock. other people's gods. and put
yourself in their place. period. That is a deal killer
for me. That's worse than the war with Iran, in
my opinion. Yeah. But I ask because, you know, you've
been talking on your show about whether Trump is the
Antichrist. I have not said that. On your show, the
day after Easter, you noted he did not put his
hand on the Bible during his swearing-in ceremony as president.
You said, and I'm quoting, maybe he didn't put his
hand on the Bible because because he affirmatively rejects what's
inside that book. And then on a recent show, you
went further saying, here's a leader who's mocking the gods
of his ancestors, mocking the god of gods and exalting
himself above them. Could this be the Antichrist? I actually
did not say, could this be the Antichrist? Here's a
leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors. mocking the
God of gods. and exalting himself above them. Could this
be the Antichrist? Who knows? I don't know where that
comes from, but I know that those words never left
my lips because... I'm not sure I fully understand what
the Antichrist is, if there's just one. I actually tried
to understand it. I may have said some are asking
that I'm not. weighing in on that because I don't
understand it. Wow. Interesting. So they have the exact quote
that she reads. And he denies it and says, those
words never left my lips. And then they have, of
course, they have the actual him actually saying it. This
is, to me, an indictment of what a phony this
guy really must be. Well, again, what you hear him
say is. I don't really know what the Antichrist is.
And then he goes on with that bull crap. Yeah,
because he says these things with such authority, and then
when he's called on it, he says, well, I don't
really know what the Antichrist is. is and if there's
just one or many of them and revelation and you
know, Personally, I find his, uh... His so-called knowledge of
scripture, extremely annoying because he does that all the time.
Well, the Bible says, I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian.
It's how we do it. So, but on the other
hand, I know that people have accused me of saying
things like, I didn't say that. And then I go
back and listen like, oh, crap, I did kind of
say that. Yeah, but that's different than a reporter confronting
you with an exact... quote. And she says it was
quoted. I'm quoting you. And they read the quote. At
that point, would you deny it? No, I'd be like,
what? I said that? I must have been high. I'd
do something different than what Tucker did. It never left
my lips. Now, it's possible. that he was possessed and
it wasn't his lips that the words left from. Yeah,
it was the demon, that damn demon that scratched him
up. The enemy. That's where I'd go with it. Well,
okay, if he does that, then I'll be backing off.
I'd give him a pass for that. All right. Over
to you. General Patton on the down low. I've changed
it. I kept hearing myself say gay General Patton. I
didn't like it that much. I like General Patton on
the down low. Our treasure secretary, Scott Besant. And he
had this, he was on Kudlow's show, which is pretty
insufferable usually. Oh, Kudlow. Kudlow always seems to be in
the bag. He's in the bag for everything. He's almost
like a Kramer. He's just a Fox version of Kramer.
I like this because we got a little bit more
of a timeline from Besant. And I have a couple
clips here, three clips. It was he was on for
a half an hour it was really good when it
comes to the coordination of Operation Epic Fury and Operation
Economic Fury. All right, Operation Economic Fury is helping to
win the war. Coming from the Treasury Department, we welcome
back Treasury Secretary Mr. Scott Besson. Secretary, thank you for
this. I know you're a very busy chap, but you
know, your economic fury is doing a lot and it's
sort of offshore bank accounts and shipping issues. And I
love this, the teapot refiners off the coast of China.
And just tell us a little more about this, because
I think this is going to be very. powerful stuff
and is already having an impact. Larry, good to be
with you. And to be clear, the president gave the
operation, gave the order for max pressure campaign more than
a year ago. He gave it to me and Treasury
last March. It was that pressure that. brought the Iranian
economy to a standstill in December that led to the
protest. The largest bank in Iran collapsed. The central bank
had to monetize the debt and that created massive inflation.
Their currency is down about 60 or 70 percent versus
the U.S. So they're in the middle of a currency
crisis. And what we're doing now is, you know, we've
been in a long race and we are sprinting for
the finish line. President Trump told me three weeks ago
to up the pressure again. And we have gone to
the buyers of... Iranian oil and told them that we
are going, we are willing to do secondary sanctions. What
you don't hear General Patton on the down low say
is, PB Netanyahu called me and said, hey, I got
a plan. No, this was well thought out. And they
even... thought out and I guess war game the whole
Riots. Like, this will get people to the streets when
their money's not worth anything and they can't buy anything.
That was over a year ago. Now, this second clip
here is a little disappointing because they talk about crypto.
And it's very unclear whether is it Bitcoin? Is it
Ethereum? Is it stable coin? I'm pretty sure it's mainly
stable coin, which also shows you how they will be
willing to use stable coin in the future. But it
all falls under the heading of crypto. Seizing assets, are
you not? I... That's right, Larry. We were able to
grab about 350 million crypto assets and then on top
of another 100 that we had recently gotten. So we're
almost at half a billion there. And we are freezing
bank accounts everywhere. More importantly, we are making people less
willing to deal with the regime. And then so it's
the economic fury along with the blockade, because now the...
The port at Karg Island is at a virtual standstill
in terms of loadings. We think that the Iranian... Storage
will be full soon. They'll have to start. capping in
their wells, which will lead to permanent problems. And, you
know, again, the regime won't be able to pay their
soldiers. And equally important, Larry, is they won't be able
to fund their proxies, whether it's Hezbollah. Hamas around the
world because one of President Trump's goals in this was
to stop Iran's ability to project terrorist power around the
world. Iran was the largest sponsor of state terrorism around
the world. They've been killing Americans for the past 47
years and that's... coming to a stop now. All right.
So, okay. Crypto. But this final clip, this, I think,
shows the genius of what Besant was doing. And remember,
this guy worked for Soros. He knows how the system
works. He knows how the money flows. He understands finance.
FNAF. And this is how they decided. to break up
OPEC. A couple million barrels more per day from maybe
two, two and a half million to as much as
five million. The UAE has chosen to side with the
United States in the dollar block. I think that's most
significant. Whatever you did, whatever you have up your sleeve,
Mr. Besson, I think is a pretty clever play. Look,
the UAE and several other Gulf countries and some of
our Asian allies have requested swap lines. And to be
clear, Larry, that a swap line is not a bailout.
It is just a swap for U.S. dollars for... the
local currency at a fixed price. It is either done
from the Fed or Treasury to the central bank. It
is the ironclad credit. These are some of the most
liquid countries in the world. And they just asked for
the swap line as another layer of... prevention and safety.
So we are happy to support our allies during this
time. And this is when during a conflict, we stand
by them and we show our support both militarily and
economically. And they. The UAE has made the decision to
get out of OPEC, which is why I'm confident that
once we get on the other side of this conflict,
that we will see oil prices and gasoline prices lower
than they were when the conflict began. And if you
look at the forward crude market, it's telling you the
same thing. I mean, they're basically... I've chosen free markets
over price controls. And my guess, I don't know, Venezuela,
Ecuador, Nigeria, they may follow suit. The Abraham Accords may
go a lot lower. The dollar system, you've always been
a strong dollar guy. That's why I think this is
a great move. I'm not sure people understand just how
important this UAE thing is. But I wanted to highlight
it later. I agree with Kudlow. I think this is
a great move. And you watch, you watch ships going
straight to UAE. They're all in the dollar system. Stay
in the dollars. You don't want that staple coin. Yeah.
That's why the swap line. Those clips kind of, since
they talk about Iranian oil going to China. I have
a China clip on this. I think this is an
odd clip because they're warning the Chinese public. I don't
know what the public's got to do with this, but
play the China using Iran oil clip. China is instructing
its citizens not to comply with new U.S. sanctions on
Chinese oil refiners. After the U.S. said the five oil
refiners were buying Iranian oil, NPR's Emily Fang reports. China's
Commerce Ministry said for the sake of national security, the
U.S. sanctions would not be enforced. Before the war, most
of Iran's oil ended up at small private refineries in
China, ferried there by a so-called shadow fleet of ships.
which the U.S. has also begun sanctioning. And that oil
trade, the U.S. says, provided Iran's regime with much-needed cash.
U.S. sanctions means those oil refineries in China will not
be able to use the U.S. dollar to do business
or buy international insurance or dock at Western ports. But
China settles most of its purchases with Iran. in Chinese
Renminbi. And today's announcement that it will not recognize these
American sanctions is a clear signal to ships carrying Iranian
oil that the Chinese refiners would still be happy to
receive their cargo. Emily Fang, NPR News. Hmm. I mean,
if Iran is receiving Remden B, What are they going
to do with it? What are you going to buy
with that? I mean, if you want some food. Buy
Chinese missiles. Okay. Yeah, that's about it. Why even bother
with the money part? Just ship some missiles over. Oh,
because that's not that easy. Nah. Nah, the Shadow Fleet
is real. That's for sure. You ever look at a
world map of all the oil tankers in the ocean
at one time? Yeah, there's hundreds and hundreds. It's like
millions. I don't know about millions, but there's a lot
of them. Well, there's thousands. Hundreds. I'd say hundreds. I'm
about thousands. I think there's at least a hundred. What
are you eating? No, I'm having a lozenge. Oh, okay.
Valid. So, eh. I don't know. I think that we've
got OPEC falling apart. You've got UAE. They're like, hey,
we want to pump more. We want more. We're buddies.
We want to be in the dollar. We can do
5 million barrels. Then Saudi Arabia goes, hey. We can
do that. We want to do some more oil. And
then more oil, more oil. Yeah, once they all get
the bug. Yeah. Then you won't even need Iranian oil.
It's like, we've got enough of this stuff. It's good.
I can see it. Now, of course... We have some
issues. With the war, or should we say it's a
military operation? I'm not sure if we call it a
war, a military operation. Is it a war? I don't
know what it's called anymore, just an embargo. I don't
know. You say that you're not actively at war. Here
is what President Trump had to say on Friday. I
want to play it for you. Get your reaction on
the other side. This is from this morning. Meet the
press with Todd Blanche. They don't like the word war
and they call it a military operation because that way
you don't have a war, you don't have legal problems.
Is the president effectively arguing? If you don't call it
a war, you don't have legal problems. He's talking about
the War Powers Resolution. Yeah, right. Because that way, you
don't have a war, you don't have legal problems. Is
the president effectively arguing that he can avoid congressional approval
by avoiding using the word war? He's not effectively arguing
anything except that he is trying to keep this country
safe. Oh, okay. All right, Todd. All right, Todd Blanchard.
There's a good yes, man. Let's go to NBC. The
war is now 60 days old, an important marker. A
1973 law requires the president to end military conflicts unless
the commander-in-chief gets congressional approval to continue. The administration says
the ongoing... ceasefire paused that 60-day clock. Republican leadership agrees.
But Democrats and some Republicans say it's time Congress gets
involved. One GOP lawmaker says she plans to introduce an
authorization for use of military force, AUMF, when the Senate
returns. The president should have before engaging in military action
at this scale that we're seeing now. oil tankers moving.
This as American drivers face surging gas prices, with the
average cost of a gallon now $4.39. But in many
parts of the country, it's even higher. $6.19, I'm not
touching it. $40, $50 to fill my tank, but now
it's from empty, it's $80 to $90. That's forced. drivers
to find alternative ways of getting around. I just got
a monthly bus pass. Kind of putting in that calculation
of how much this thing costs and how much it
costs to drive every day, it just makes so much
more sense as a college student just to do this.
President Trump says he doesn't need congressional approval for the
war. In letters to Congress today, he says the hostilities
terminated the day the ceasefire began last month. But he
did not address the naval blockade on Iranian ports. That's
not war. That's just a blockade. Come on! Congress is
flummoxed by this. Like, well, no one ever did this.
No one ever called it something else. Wait a minute.
Blanche Blanche Republican Senator Susan Collins posted quote the president's
authority as commander-in-chief is not without limits That deadline is
not a suggestion. It is a requirement. Are there any
legal limits on the president's powers to carry out the
war with Iran? Suggesting the president Trump or this administration
or the Department of War is violating the law is
just completely wrong. It's not appropriate to say that. We
are not. We are complying with the law. Oh, man,
he is a yes man. Don't answer the question. Just
say it's inappropriate. It's wrong. Axios reports per sources the
plan set a one month deadline for negotiations on a
deal. to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, end the U.S.
naval blockade, and permanently end the war in Iran and
in Lebanon. Per the Iranian proposal, only after such a
deal is reached, another month of negotiations would be launched
to try and reach a deal on the nuclear program,
the two sources said. The president is leaving the door
open for more strikes if a deal is not reached.
Yes, we continue. This will go on. It'll be another
month at least. And ABC, well, maybe if we just
tell them that his numbers suck. And in this new
ABC News Washington Post Ipsos poll, Trump is underwater on
every single issue they tested. With two-thirds of Americans saying...
What if you're... Underwater, what is the baseline for underwater?
I think 50%. Oh, okay. The country is headed in
the wrong direction. But that being said, his base is
still with him. 85% of Republicans approve, but look closer,
the share who strongly approve has dropped to 45%, and
that is the lowest. among Republicans across both of his
terms. Then if we dig into the issues that's driving
this, about three quarters of Americans disapprove of how Trump
is handling the cost of living. Roughly two thirds disapprove
on the economy, the issue that Trump campaigned on. And
a majority say using military force against Iran was a
mistake, Gio. Speak mistake. It's a big mistake. It's a
big mistake. And of course the president. Do you see...
He must have tea with the president all the time,
don't you think? Well, he's definitely the number one go-to
guy for the press. Corps. Oh, yeah. I mean, he
gets the questions ahead of time. And then I'm sure
it's like, make it sound good, Deucey. Commander come in
here yesterday. Was he briefing you on a different approach
and options? What kind of options? How would it look
different? I mean, do we want to go and just
blast the hell out of them? Finish him forever or
do we want to try and make a deal? Those
are the options. Do you want to go blast the
hell out of him? I prefer not. On a human
basis, I prefer not, but that's the option. Do we
want to go in there heavy and just blast them
away? Or do we want to do something? They're a
very disjointed unit here. But you can understand Peter, very
disjointed. I mean, they, um... They're not getting along with
each other. And it puts us in a bad position.
One group wants to make a certain deal. The other
group wants to make a certain deal, including the hardliners.
The hardliners want to make a deal, too. Why wouldn't
they? They have no navy. They have no air force,
they have no anti-aircraft, they have... They have no nothing.
Something about a New Yorker saying they have no nothing.
It's just great. They have no nothing. But on the
way back, when we're done with Iran, which I think
will probably be in about 45 days, when we're done
with Iran, we're going to... Swing by Cuba. Thank you,
Dan. Good job. An architect who's really talented, he's done
a lot of work for me. He's got a flair,
a beautiful Hispanic flair in particular. And he comes from
originally a place called Cuba. Cuba. Which we will be
taking over almost immediately. No, Cuba's got problems. We'll finish
one first. I like to finish a job. On the
way back from what we'll do, on the way back
from Iran, we'll have one of our big, maybe the
USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier, the biggest in the world,
we'll have that come in. stop about 100 yards offshore
and they'll say thank you very much we give up
People get so disjointed over these jokes. Seriously, I see
it in the troll room. He's laughing about murdering people.
Get a grip on your pearls. And this was a
gem about Ilan Omar. Ah. This is your president in
true stand-up form. But J.D.' 's done a great job.
Thousands and thousands of people are... It's a fraud. I
mean, look at the wonderful country. It's a beautiful country.
You should try it sometime. Somalia. It's a beautiful... place
It's got no government. It's got no military. It's got
no... Anything. It's got one thing that's really strong. Crime.
It's got a lot of crime. They have no police.
All they do is run around shooting each other. It's
filthy dirty, disgusting dirty. It's a horrible place. They come
here and Ilhan Omar. You ever hear of him? She
hedged it. They have nothing but crime, poverty, pollution, everything
is horrible over there, nothing good. They say it's the
worst country anywhere in the world. We got some beauties
out there, but it's the worst. And then she comes
here from Somalia and she tells us how to run
the United States of America. She says. She says the
Constitution gives me certain rights. It gives me certain rights.
And I demand... that I be given these rights. Get
the hell out. What a phony. And then she married
a brother to come in. I don't know, you know?
But I think, I would imagine they're looking at her.
I have nothing to do with it. I would imagine.
Of course I have nothing to do. I have nothing
but. I believe she married her brother, which is totally
illegal. Although it's a lovely couple, actually, but it's a
little bit on the illegal side. Darling, I love you
very much. Good night, brother. Let's go to bed. Isn't
she despicable? I can't stand watching. I'm going to miss
him. I'm going to miss him. I think it's funny.
So many people get so upset about this. Yeah. Yeah,
it's unexpected, you know. Yeah. Nobody knows what to make
of it. It's okay if you're upset about it, and
I'm okay with that, and I'm okay with you being
upset about it, but not if you're on SSRIs, okay?
Just make sure if you're on SSRIs and you're upset
about it, your meds ain't working. Okay, you gotta get
different meds. But when the topic of a run, I'm
also getting this out of the way, the smuggling of
the... of the satellite receivers going on right now is
kind of It's a topic of discussion. This is Iran
internet smuggling. NPR. A network of Iranians have been smuggling
Starlink satellite terminals into the country. The technology is the
most common way of bypassing the internet blackout in Iran,
one of the longest in history. Our reporter Reha Kansara
has more. Iranian regime has proven that... During the shutdown,
they can kill. It is crucial for Iranians to be
able to portray the real picture of the situation on
the ground. I'm speaking to an Iranian man who is
part of a clandestine network dotted across the globe, helping
to smuggle Starlink terminals into Iran. Plus... We want to
make sure that whatever gets out of the country is
not being manipulated by the Iranian regime's narrative. What he's
doing is putting a lot of people inside the country,
including his family, in danger. He only agreed to speak
to me on the condition that I do not reveal
his real identity. We purchase Starlinks and smuggle them through
the borders. It's a very complex operation. I'm not going
to give you the exact number, but we have sent
over a dozen, and we are actively looking for other
ways to smuggle in more. The satellite technology, which helps
people connect to the internet, has become a vital communications
lifeline for tens of thousands of people in Iran. For
more than two months, they've been in a digital black
hole. It was triggered by the ongoing war with Israel
and the US. The Iranian government said they shut down
the internet because of security concerns. It's one of the
longest nationwide internet sh- I don't think this is entirely
true anymore. Commercial flights, I've heard, have resumed from Tehran.
Um... phones seem to be working? And I hope on
May 11th, which I think is Monday, I'm going to
have a... a dinner with lex and his wife who
has all her family in tehran and I'll get some
more boots on the ground, but I don't think it's
quite that bad as portrayed here. It could be not
as bad as portrayed, but I think it's interesting that
Musk's... system It's become such an interesting kind of a
proposition for people that need to get Internet access without
going through channels. Well, this is the Internet in a
suitcase. Remember that? Well, it's a little more than that,
I think. No. I mean, the internet in a suitcase,
that was, that was. It was pre-Starlink. Yeah. Oh, no,
it was definitely pre- Let's see. Here's Lucifer. I get
a lot of invitations to speak these days. Oh, that
was the kid. I was that kid. was working at
the state department who later had to leave he was
the internet in a suitcase but i have one you
know musk sent out had some bonus deal because i
have the starlink as a backup i know i thought
you had it hooked up no i have i have
starlink hooked up but that's a pretty big dish and
then he said for five dollars a month If you
don't hook it up, we'll just charge it. five bucks
a month you get the the mini portable one which
is really tiny How tiny. Uh, it would fit in...
briefcase The whole thing. We'll give you the dimensions of
the dish. I have to get it. Not even the
dish, actually, just the flat panel. I'll play your second
clip. and I'll get it out of the closet. Yeah,
play the second clip. Okay. But it's not the first
time this year the internet has been switched off. In
January, the country was plunged into darkness during a deadly
crackdown on protests. Media organisations, including the BBC, relied on
a drip-feed of information from inside the country a lot
of which was shared on social media using Starlink Internet
to verify and document atrocities committed by the authorities. Marwa
Fatafta from digital rights group Access Now says the blackout
helps the government conceal what's happening inside the country. In
times of crisis, this is not only an attack on
freedom of expression, ...expression, press freedom or access to information
is a matter of survival. Shutdowns inflict serious physical, psychological
and economic harms on people and they shatter a society's
ability to preserve and withstand hardships. And no matter what
the justification may be for a government to kill the
switch, communications blackouts... are a clear violation of human rights
and they can never be justified. Multiple arrests have been
made of Iranians importing, procuring, selling and buying Starlink. Many
have been accused of espionage. Roya Boromand from the Boromand
Center for Human Rights says since the regime came into
power in 1979, it's always sought to conceal information. Only
its methods have changed. Iran has denied citizens' right to
seek, receive and impart information for decades. But in the
face of internal calls for regime change and external military
attacks, it has escalated the hunt and the arrest of
citizens who circumvent censorship using Starlink devices. It's about the
size of an iPad. Oh. And it weighs one kilo.
It was a two-pound iPad. It's a slab. But yeah,
that's it. It's like an iPad Pro, I would say.
It's just a flat panel. Yeah. Well, yeah. It's a...
Let me see the depth here. The depth is... About
an inch and a half. Oh, it's, yeah, I guess
it gives enough room. Yeah, so it's... it's small. I
mean, it's, it's, it's an, you can put it in
your pants. You could smuggle it in your pants. Yeah,
it's fantastic. That's the only, I mean, you can't hate
the guy for that. That's Starlink stuff, although he doesn't
do reverse DNS, which is a real problem. That's kind
of wonky network-wise. A lot of nerds. complain about that.
Like you don't have reverse DNS. Not everything's going to
work well. Well, you know, one of the problems you
have with all this gear... is that in the UK,
for example, you know, they have these roving vans with
the big dish on the roof. Looking for people with
illegal TVs. Yeah. Because the receiver is also a transmitter.
It's not even a big dish. It's a small dish.
I've seen them. I thought it was a big dish.
No, no, no, no. It's a small dish. Well, they
look for the illegal TVs. Uh, because you have to
have a license. in the be in in the uk
yes to watch television which is ludicrous but okay it's
their system Well, yeah. They have a king. They have
a king. Let them. No kings, man. No kings, man.
It's unclear when the internet will be restored, but a
government spokesperson has said once the situation returns to normal,
so will internet access. The smuggler and others like him
will continue to fight for vital information to get in
and out of Iran until restrictions are lifted. I think
people and the world should hear the real voice of
Iranians. This is our goal and we will continue working
towards it. End. End. Okay. Well, I'll find out more
next week or the week after that, Tuesday, the 11th,
hopefully. We'll find out more. Find out more. Uh, let's
see, um... Let's do a little... A little big tech
AI news. Always fun. A little big tech AI news.
No AI news. AI news. Yes, everyone's joining in now.
We're good. Hey, man, we're good. You can use our
stuff. Let's do war with our stuff because it's so
solid. Alphabet's Google has reportedly joined a list of tech
firms to... sign a deal with the U.S. Department of
Defense. It's to use its AI models for classified work.
The Information reported the deal on Tuesday, citing a person
familiar with the matter. It added the agreement allows the
Pentagon to use Google's AI for any lawful government purpose
and puts it alongside OpenAI and Elon Musk. XAI, which
also have deals to supply AI models for classified use.
Classified networks are used to handle a wide range of
sensitive work. They include mission planning and weapons targeting. Reuters
couldn't verify the report. The Pentagon signed agreements worth up
to $200 million. each with major AI labs last year,
including Anthropic, OpenAI and Google. Reuters had earlier reported the
Pentagon wanted top AI companies to make their tools available
on classified networks without the standard restrictions they apply to
users. The information reported Google's agreement requires it to help
in adjusting the the company's AI safety settings and filters
at the government's request. Alphabet and the US Department of
Defense, which has now been renamed the Department of War
by President Trump, didn't immediately respond to requests for comment.
Google said it supports government agencies across both classified and
non-classified projects. and added it was committed to the consensus
AI shouldn't be used for domestic mass surveillance or autonomous
weaponry without appropriate human oversight. The Pentagon has said it
has no interest in using AI to conduct mass surveillance
of Americans or to develop weapons that operate without human
involvement, but wants any lawful use. of AI to be
allowed. I like the, uh, we don't need your AI
for mass surveillance. We just buy it from Google. We
don't need to spend money on you guys for that.
Yeah. That's stuff I have to say. Now, for certain
things, this stuff is really, really impressive, although... Dave Jones
over there at Podcast Index. He and I have been
doing comparisons. And if you use Claude Code with Opus
4.7. which will cost, if you want to get anything
done, $100 a month. If you really are using it
a lot, $200 a month, which is a lot of
money. He's using... pi, P-I, P-I dot dev, which is,
uh... an agentic thing. And you can connect that to
any large language model. And he has, at his job,
he has a $3,500 machine. I forget what he calls
it, but it has all the RAM and everything in
it that you need. And he's running QEN 3.6, 35
billion parameter. It is equal. equal to Claude Code with
Anthropix Opus 4.7, except you don't have to pay a
subscription. You got to shell out some money up front.
So when you hear the next clip. These guys are
going to run into trouble. The investors will run into
trouble somewhere down the road. And it's been a tough
week for OpenAI. Reports of missing key targets, Sam Altman
on trial against Elon Musk, and now, rival Anthropix business
may have caught up. Kate Rooney has more in Tech
Check. Hi, Kate. Hi, Kelly. So that's what we're hearing.
I am hearing that Anthropic right now is in talks
to raise another round of capital. If it does go
forward as planned, it could value this AI giant at
as much as $900 billion. This is according to a
source familiar with those deal talks. Kelly, no term sheets
have been signed yet from what I'm told. Discussions are
still ongoing, and Anthropic did decline to comment. But this
would be more than double the company's last valuation of
private markets and then put it ahead of rival OpenAI,
which was last worth around $850 billion. That was after
its record fundraise earlier this year. It does come as
both of these AI giants look to go public. According
to sources, could depend on market conditions, but Anthropix exploding
revenue growth has been the main reason that investors have
been lining up to back them. So Anthropix last reported
run rate was around $30 billion. Sources now tell me
that is closer to $35 billion. It would be up
from $10 billion just last year. So, cloud code has
been the major revenue driver here for this company. Also,
a lot of intrigue around mythos. This, of course, is
the cybersecurity model. It's gotten a lot of buzz. It
is now only available to a select group of companies,
but it's really added to the allure for investors when
we talk about the potential power of these models. In
the last hour, though, Anthropic did make another move in
the cybersecurity. Yeah, this is not going to end well.
There's too much money and no money coming in. What
makes you think that? I can do math. I can
calculate. This is not going to work out. Well. Maybe
after the midterms. Something's got to... I mean, how much
longer can these guys delay their IPO? They have... to
come out soon no it has to be sooner than
later yeah do you think it'll be before the midterms
Well, it may be before the midterms, but it's not
going to, the collapse won't be before the midterms. Will
the collapse be in 2027, you think? Early 2027? It's
gotta be next year. Yeah. It's going to be so,
so amazing to watch. I mean, it'll suck. It's not
going to be good for the donations to the show.
No. You have enough trouble. Could it get any worse?
All right, now the people who clearly are going to
lose out are Hollywood. Hollywood is just struggling. They are
struggling to hold on. And the Oscars who are going
to YouTube. They put their foot down. Yeah, they did.
Artificial intelligence could revolutionize the film industry, but it won't
be winning any Oscars. New rules set out by the
Academy of... motion picture arts and sciences on Friday stated
that in the acting category only roles credited in the
film's legal billing and demonstrably performed by humans with their
consent will be considered eligible The new rules also say
screenplays must be human authored to be eligible. They come
hot on the heels of the unveiling of an AI
version of the deceased film star Val Kilmer at CinemaCon,
a yearly event that showcases new films for cinema owners.
The producer of the film, called As Deep As The
Grave, explained: We do take archival footage, pictures. and voice
recordings to build a character and from there we have
to integrate that character into what we already filmed. We're
making a bold claim, bold statement, which is that we
believe we're doing this in an ethical way. The director
of the film was at pains to reassure both actors
and the wider film community. Actors are not going to
be replaced and we're going to make And that really
comes down to the entire community coming together to help
set these guidelines and guardrails for everybody so we can
follow a structure, because the technology is going to be
here no matter what we do. The Academy declined to
comment on if Val Kilmer's AI-rendered performance would be eligible
for an Oscar, saying that eligibility would be rev... I
think we should make a pact. If I die before
you, I fully endorse recreating me with AI. Okay, you're
done. Tourette's and all. Make sure it's all in there.
Make sure it's accurate. Darren can do it. He's prompting
as we speak. Darren's got all these little, he doesn't
get a lot of play, but I've been reposting the
little animations he's been doing. Yeah, with the girls? Pretty
dynamite. The girls? Yeah, always something growing. He's got a
cartoon version now, which was pretty decent. Although, for some
reason, the No Agenda shirt... on one girl turned from
black to green. Oh, well. Right in the middle of
the animation. Oh, well. How does that happen? You can't
iterate. Once it's done, you've got to accept it or
reprompt and you just get a whole new version. Yeah,
you might as well just go with it, you know.
But yeah, the Val Kilmer thing is one. But Star
Wars had a, or it was either Star Wars or
an old Star Trek movie, had some, there was a
dead actor, but they had to bring him in to...
This was years ago. They had to bring in kind
of a model of him because he was necessary for
the storyline. And he wasn't even alive. They put it
in, nobody ever talked much about it. Ooh, that's great.
And then there was the movie, the Scorsese movie, where
they had De Niro and all these people change their
ages or younger. They're all, you know, basically masked. No,
but this is about money. It's just about money. You
know, I say now... As I speak. You may recreate
me when I'm gone and make money off of me.
Please. Well, we'll see what happens with the Curry estate.
The Curry estate. Yeah, the Curry Estate. We're pissed off.
Okay. Here's SAG-AFTRA to round this out. It looks like
this is the writers and the screen actors guild, but
not everybody's here. I don't think the directors guild is
set yet. We are following developing news now. SAG-AFTRA has
reached a tentative agreement with the major Hollywood studios avoiding
a repeat of the strikes from just three years ago.
NBC. 54's Macy Jenkins is live outside the... By the
way, the troll room is asking, can we do it
now? Well, I'd have to approve it now. If you
can do it now, we can split the proceeds. It
won't be as good. Well, if it is... It won't
be as good. Come on. Okay. I got after a
headquarters in mid Wilshire. Macy. Hi Kathy and Jonathan. Well
listen, we will not know what's in that agreement until
the SAG National Board has a chance to review it.
One of the biggest issues, just like it was three
years ago, protections against AI, which is getting smarter and
more advanced by the minute. This cinematic showdown between Hollywood
A-listers Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise drew millions of views
on social media earlier this year and harsh critiques because
this is completely AI generated. They're taking the likeness of
major performers like Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt and they're
just able to replicate it. in seconds. It's a major
concern for SAG-AFTRA actors like Chuck Slavin. One he hopes
is addressed in the tentative agreement reached Saturday between SAG
and the AMPTP, the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television
Producers. Well, I have to tell you, I'm a little
concerned. Overall, I think the future is rapidly changing, and
I think that... We certainly need to protect image likeness
when it comes to AI. We need to ensure that
members get royalties and residuals on the work that they're
doing. Scanning is a major threat. A tentative deal avoids
a repeat of 2023 when SAG-AFTRA's 160,000-plus members went on
strike for four months, demanding fair pay and protection. against
AI stealing their livelihood. It comes just one month after
the Writers Guild of America reached a four-year deal with
the AMPTP. Historically, these contracts have been three-year deals, but
in exchange for adding the fourth year in the WGA's
recent agreement, the union received a $321 million infusion. into
its health fund. Looking at how fast technology is advancing,
a four-year deal locks us into a disadvantage. So you
all can sit at home being sick. Well, that's great.
No, Hollywood loses. They lose. They lose. That's just... Well,
they've got to lose for sure. Yeah, they've already kind
of... lost. I mean they have no stories. Everything is
a sequel. What is the new sequel coming out? Is
something another new sequel? Everything's a sequel. Yeah, everything, they
ran out of ideas. Yeah. How did that happen? How
did that happen? Let me ask you. How did that
happen? It's never happened before. They were making movies back
in the silent era, in the 20s and the 30s.
There were all kinds of great movies. The 40s, great
movies. 50s, great movies. 60s and 70s, especially the 70s,
tremendous films. What happened? Too many movies being made. There's
not enough. I wouldn't say there's a ton of them
being made now, are there? Oh, yeah. I think it's
just short. Yeah, no, no. They're going straight to Netflix
in eight mini-movies. Oh, yeah. Eight series. Yeah, you're right.
You're right. You're right. That's where that goes. Tons of
crappy movies on Netflix. Yeah, where it should be an
hour and a half movie and they turn it into
eight hours and call it a series. And then if
it gets enough, then they'll do another series. Yeah, we're
due for another Blair Witch Project, one of those deals.
Some kids come along and do something that blows everybody
away. You're cheap, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna happen. What
do you make of this Epstein suicide note? Well, here's
a clip. No, hold on a second. Here we go.
I got it. New Tonight did accuse sex trafficker Jeffrey
Epstein, write a suicide note before attempting to take his
own life. The New York Times reporting that a note
may exist and is being held under seal by a
federal judge. Epstein allegedly writing, it's time to say goodbye.
According to this man. convicted murderer Nicholas Tartaglione, a former
NYPD officer who shared a cell with Epstein in 2019.
Tartaglione said something similar in a podcast last year. Jeffrey
Epstein wrote a suicide note. He says he discovered the
note after Epstein's apparent suicide attempt weeks before his actual
death. It was in my book, yeah, when I got
back into the city. Tertaglione adding... you know, looked into
me for months and found nothing. NBC News has not
seen the note, and The Times says it has not
either. In a statement, the DOJ says it is hard
to comment on a note. it has not seen, adding
the department underwent an exhaustive effort to collect all records.
Epstein's death, which the medical examiner's office declared a suicide,
has been the subject of intense scrutiny, with many speculating
without proof that Epstein was murdered. A suicide note could
potentially dispel the conspiracies. The New York Times is asking
the federal court to unseal the alleged suicide note, which
is caught up in Tartaglione's legal proceeding. The Times arguing
he talked about the note in that podcast and public
interest in Epstein is immense. I got an interview with
Steve Eder. He's the... One of the reporters on the
byline for that story about the note. He was on
CNN. Listen to this. Now, the Times reports that the
alleged suicide note was sealed by a federal judge as
part of the cellmate's criminal case. My source on this
tonight is on the byline of this story, the investigative
reporter for The New York Times, Steve Eder. And thank
you, sir, for being here, because I want to start
with how this. possible note was recovered. The cellmate apparently
says he found the note in his cell tucked into
a graphic novel. end up locked away by a judge.
What's a graphic novel? Is that a novel? Is that
a comic book? Comic book. Yeah, it takes a circuitous
path, I guess, to being locked away from a judge.
But basically, the short of it is, is that the
The cellmate says that he discovered the note in the
days after Epstein was found injured in his cell, right?
And he turned it over to his lawyers. His lawyers
apparently, according to a document that we reviewed, tried to
authenticate it, weren't able to right away. And then it
ended up being moved over to... his criminal case, not
the Epstein case, but this other case that was playing
out kind of parallel and ended up sort of sequestered
from the Epstein proceedings in this whole other separate case
for years now. And in that case, the judge put
the letter, this purported note under seal. If you're interested,
I have another clip. that explains the process of how
it got under seal. Yes, please. Before we get to
the contents of the note and what it might mean,
why is it locked up in a courthouse? Like, why
wasn't it released as part of the Epstein document? Yeah,
so even before that, John, good morning to you. I
think it's important to discuss whether it's authentic or not.
I want to get to that, but just tell me
why it's locked up. is that it was under seal.
And apparently judges have vast discretion with respect to whether
they're putting something under seal, which means it's not in
the public's view. It's not in the court records. If
you go and right now we have a system in
federal court, state court too, where you can literally go
into the docket and look at a variety of materials.
Well, there are some materials that are under seal. materials
that are sensitive that are not going to be in
that docket because a judge in that judge's discretion will
seal it. That's what they did here. Remember, this involves
Tartaglione. Who's he? He's a person who was convicted. He
was Jeffrey Epstein's cellmate, and he ultimately was convicted for
four, yes, four quadruple murder. And as a result of
that and them sharing a cell, He purportedly, that is,
Mr. Tartaglione found the note, reported it to his lawyers.
He had about 18 of them, by the way, over
the course of time. And they got involved, the lawyers
did, with respect, hey, what should we do with the
note? How do we authenticate the note? Should we put
the note under seal? It became the subject of a
lot of controversy. The attorneys argued it was attorney-client privilege.
incident to their communications and them seeking advice and will
Jeffrey Epstein claim that I actually, Tartaglione, his cellmate, killed
him or tried to kill him and so what do
we do? And so the judge ultimately said it's going
to be away from public view, it's going to be
in a vault in the federal courthouse and it has
remained there for all this time. Basically a judge has
his... under his purview right now, involved in a separate
case, which is why it was not part of the
Epstein files per se. And the source here, this is
from a cellmate charged with four murders, quadruple murder, who
said he found the note and is the only person
that we know so far to tell us what was
on it. Time to say. So the credibility of the
source? What am I going to do now? Burst out
in tears. They found nothing, meaning indicating what was on
that particular note. Well, I don't think this means very
much. It's interesting, though, how that happened. Yeah, it's kind
of fascinating, I guess. I didn't realize it's so easy
to ditch stuff. Yeah. There's another, um... Yeah, man, you
predicted this so early on. About parents getting... Sued. Getting
locked up for their children's crimes. Yeah, well, it hasn't
really caught on yet to an extreme. Well, no, it's
catching. A beloved Vietnam War veteran and teacher has... died
two weeks after he was allegedly hit by a teen
on an e-motorcycle. Now the teen's mother is facing manslaughter
charges. CBS LA's Nicole Comstock with the charges and the
heartbreak from friends of the victim. After a two week
long fight for his life, treasured Vietnam veteran Orange County
teacher Ed Ashman has died. This after prosecutors say a
14-year-old boy illegally riding a powerful e-motorcycle hit Ashman while
he was walking home from school and left him in
the street. I feel pretty bad. was 81 and I
didn't want to see him go out like that. "Long
time friends and neighbors say after serving our country with
honor as a fighter pilot, then dedicating his golden years
to mentoring the next generation at El Toro High School,
it's a shame that a young teen's actions allegedly led
to his death." "The Vietnam War, he went through that
and then this happened." The boy's mom, Tammy Jo Mayher,
has now been charged with involuntary manslaughter. The new felony
complaint alleges she was also an accessory after the fact,
harboring and concealing her son so he could avoid arrest
and punishment. Police say they already told the boy's mother
a year ago, on body-worn camera, that she could face
criminal charges. for continuing to allow her son to ride
the e-motorcycle that requires a driver's license. Orange County District
Attorney Todd Spitzer says in writing, this mother essentially handed
her 14-year-old son a deadly weapon and despite multiple warnings
on the dangers, continued to let him illegally ride. Hmm.
Well, they get this kind of an open and shut
case. It's a little more easier to push than someone
who's just a careless parent and lets their kid go
wild. Well. This is a question for Darren O'Neill. He
keeps track of the murders and shootings in Chicago. How
many parents of those kids, because a lot of them
are kids, do you ever hear in a story like
this? Well, none yet. No, none. It's going to happen.
That doesn't seem like it's... You have to get a
build... There has to be a build-up. of case law.
So it's gonna have to be after, you know... Maybe.
dozens of cases like this go through and so you
can put together this kind of an indictment. Based on
something that's happened already. But it never used to be
that way. I don't understand. I mean, he used to
go to juvie. Why the parents now? I just don't
get it. It doesn't make sense from a legal perspective.
It will. Shut up. It will make sense. Shut up.
It will. Shut up. The law will be the law.
I don't like it. Well, I kind of like it.
Really? Okay. Uh... How about a drunk or not drunk?
Oh, we haven't had one of those in a while.
I don't even know if I can find the jingle
or not. I'm drunk. Yeah, I was hoping for the
jingle. Not drunk. Drunk or not drunk. Uh... Let me
see. I have it here. I think I have it
here. No, that's not it. You know, whatever happened to
that jingle? Drunk or not drunk. I have a million
drunk or not drunks, but none of them says, this
is the jingle, Adam, the one you're looking for. Oh,
here it is. In fact, I have it. Drunk or
not drunk, jingle original! Drunk or not drunk! Found it.
Yeah, I found it. All right, here we go. Can't
wait. I gave it set it up. This is one
of the... one of the Reverend Al's meetups, and he's
got Kamala Harris. So are you gonna run again in
28? Um, Listen, I might. I might. I'm thinking about
it. But let me say this. Let me say this.
I am thinking about it. But let me also say
this. I served... for four years. being a heartbeat away
from the presidency of the United States. I spent countless
hours in my West Wing office. footsteps away from the
Oval Office. I spent countless hours in the Oval Office
and the Situation Room. I know what the job is.
And I know what it requires. and I am thinking
about it in the context of then You know, is...
Who and where and how can the best job be
done for the American people? That's how I'm thinking about
it. I'll keep you posted. I'll keep you posted. Okay.
All right. All right. Vice President of the United States.
Kamala Harris. Drunk. I'm going to say not drunk. I
think she's not drunk. I think it's a different, you
need a different jingle for her. Black or not black.
I think she's trying to do kind of a... Oh,
jeez. Yeah, she's kind of trying to do like an
urban type vibe. You know, I was just steps a
heartbeat away. Hop it away from the presidency. No, I
don't think she's drunk here. You think she's drunk? Okay,
I just, it seemed drunk to me. Well, okay. She
seems drunk to me all the time. How about SSRIs?
Interesting. I have this old PBS NewsHour clip, and the
only reason I want to play it is because it's
got the 33,000. is in the in the title okay
and 33 is a magic number okay this is ukraine
shut down 33 000. Russian attack drones. Ukraine says it
shot down more than 33,000 Russian drones in March. That's
the most in a single month since Russia's invasion more
than four years ago. Ukraine has been ramping up its
drone capabilities in response to Russia's relentless aerial attacks and
increasingly taking the fight back across the border. Officials said
today... Ukrainian forces can now strike much deeper inside Russia
than they could at the start of the war. Earlier
this month, Moscow accused European nations of expanding drone support
to Kyiv, prompting a warning today from Russia's defense minister.
This sort of action facilitates the sharp escalation of the
military. and political situation across the entire European continent and
can have unpredictable consequences. Just yesterday, Poland's Prime Minister announced
that his country will partner with Ukraine to manufacture what
he described as a drone armada. Poland and Russia share
a border and Russia has violated Polish airspace on a
number of occasions since the Ukraine war started. ♪ The
magic number Now, the clip I'm most interested in, just
perusing your list, is the limited edition. Trump passport. Yeah,
you know about that, no? No, I don't, but I'm
interested and I'll tell you why after I play your
clip. The U.S. State Department- I'm going to guess why.
Your passport's running out and you want to get one.
Yes! The U.S. State Department is rolling out a new
limited edition passport. forth, it includes a picture of President
Trump. The State Department posted what it called a sneak
peek on social media. It shows the president's image on
the inside cover with his signature and gold lettering at
the bottom. The back cover shows a more traditional scene
of the Declaration of Independence. The release is part of
the commemorations marking the 250th anniversary. of American Independence. It's
also the latest effort to put Mr. Trump's mark on
the nation, which includes his images on government buildings, his
name on what was the Kennedy Center, and a planned
arch in Washington, among others. Yeah, this is an obvious
collectible. I feel the same way. I want to get
one too because my past force expired oh my oh
You should get on that right away. You can do
that now. Well, no, you don't want to get on
it right away because it hasn't been released yet. It's
coming out in the summer. Oh, okay. And it's only
going to be a limited edition, I believe, of 50,000.
Oh! So you're going to have to get in right
at the right moment. So I got a note from.
State Department, they send out emails now and they say,
hey, you can renew online. This is crazy. You can
make your own passport picture. And they show you how
to do it? Yeah, I did that with my passport
already years ago, decades ago. Do you remember decades ago?
Do you remember? You used to have to go to
a special photographer. He had to have special film, a
special backdrop. It was all special, special, special, special dude,
special shop. They had to wait, they had to develop
it, you know, in a dark room. It used to
be very complicated. Now you can just take your own
picture and submit it? This was years ago. The last
two passports I've had, I took my own picture with
a digital camera at the right, you know, against a
blank wall, cut it out and submitted it. It went
in the passport just fine. Well... This isn't new. When
I renewed mine, which was... Seven years ago, for some
reason I got a seven year passport, I don't know
why. Maybe it was ten years, nine years ago. He
couldn't do it. That was not. I don't know how
you got to do that, but there was no offer
for me. to do that online with my own. I
just did it. Just now you said, just, you just
did it. You just. You just did it. You just,
here's my favorite. Did you do it with your phone
in the drawer with that one? No, I used a
good quality camera. Oh, okay. I had a perfect background.
It was exactly the same as you'd get. I had
Jay or somebody take my picture two or three times
and took the best one, cut it. into the exact
right size, blew it up to the right size, printed
it out myself, and then cut it into a square
and submitted it and went right through it. And this
is, like I said, at least two passports ago. Well,
I was unaware. Anyway, I want one of them, so
I'll wait until it's released. I'll try and get in
on that. Yeah, this is it. It's going to be
a timing issue. A hot item. It's a hot item.
I want that. But a lot of people, we don't
want it. I want it. I want it! That'd be
hilarious. I want this gold coin. I want everything I
can get. Because we're never going to see this again.
You know, somebody back in 2020... sent me a box.
Full of Trump collectibles. Oh, what'd you do? Phony dollar
bills. Yeah, I got those. I got the Trump. And
a bunch of coinage and stickers and all kinds of
stuff. It's just a huge. And it was just so
much stuff, I just packed it up and put it
in the attic. It might be worth a fortune someday.
So listen to this. The last no agenda meetup. You
know, which was here at J6 or Jenny's place and
people were very kind and donating on the spot. And
so we counted, you know, we count out the money
and then we send you the check. And then, you
know, we, cause we do that all officially. We don't
want it to, you know, there's nothing. It's all above
board. We pay our taxes. Yeah, we pay taxes. Too
many taxes. And so, Tina, I'm usually like, just keep
the cash around, you know. Tina's like, no, I'm going
to take it to the bank. We take it to
the bank. And, you know, like maybe six $100 bills.
And the bank manager's like, um... Uh... Do you realize
that these are not all real? I'm like, what? You
had six counterfeit bills? No. two were $100 bills with
Trump on it. Yes. Someone handed off phony Trump hundies.
Oh, brother. I thought it was pretty funny. Oh, I'm
sorry. I didn't mean to try and scam you, Mr.
Bank. Yeah. You didn't notice this? No! No, we didn't
notice it. accounting because the the the back that just
looks normal you look at the front like oh this
trump that can't be a real hundred dollar bill that's
hilarious That was a good guy. Can you cash this
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I think we have three great ones again today. Do
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Yeah, the first one. The second one was good, too,
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A lot of people enjoyed us talking about the old
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From the days of... Seagate floppy, Seagate drives and floppy
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little uh nick the rat on the beach little rat
Little rat on the beach. Yeah. Which was nice. Yeah.
So it was a good piece. We both liked it.
We looked at a couple other things. We look at
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Talking about a blast from the past, next to the
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I want to mention the Flying Toasters, the people that
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the company that became. Move. No! What? How did they
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just did. Wow. Hmm. Interesting. A little tidbit for the...
That's a pivot. Yeah, no kidding. Honorary mention to Neswork,
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It wasn't quite there. We liked it, but it just
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You're dead. You're basically dead. Even I didn't like that.
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I think that would be a lot of different. We've
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Don't want to do that. You've been. D-Douched. 38 year
old and first saw Adam on Joe Rogan and everything
and everything said Hit. Okay. especially when talking about fluoride,
which is still impossible to get my doctor's, my doctor
wife to understand. Uh-oh. A lot of people, uh... Just
do not. Don't get the argument. Yeah. I love listening
to John, too. He's like the grandpa I never had.
You're both amazing, and I always look forward to listening
to you guys while running my own business. Cleaning pools.
No, it says cleaning. He says cleaning pool. He does
say cleaning pool, but I corrected his grammar. That's like
driving truck. You clean pool. All right. Yeah, that's what
he said, but I avoided it. It's good to hear
donations are coming from my area in hell. Roseville. I
mean, California, I'm in Roseville, and if anyone in this
area would love top-of-the-line pool service, I've been in business
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Please eel me, eel me, eel me. eel me at
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is for Marley's dad pool service named after my daughter.
I'm totally looking to start a meetup in my area.
Would love to hang out with like-minded individuals. So if
anyone wants to email me for that too, I'd love
to get something together. Thank you both for everything and
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What? Boots. Oh, boots, boots, not boobs. That's in your
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Austin, the pool guy. All right, Austin. Thank you. Hey,
there's Eli the Coffee Guy checking in with 205.03. He's
always at $200. And then the date, 5-3. He says,
we've all been watching the seed man get deplatformed in
slow motion for years. The term lawfare feels a bit
too polite for burning someone's media operation at the stake.
It was a little disconcerting to go to the InfoWars
website and just see off-air on the homepage. It also
shows the limits of the ability of the system to
silence dissenting voices. You can pull the plug on a
studio, not the signal. After all, there's a war on
for your mind. Adam, thank you for leading the charge.
podcasting 2.0 decentralization is the only way to go and
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Here's one. That's when I declare a jihad on their
ass. Let me try something. Get the frogs or gay
out. Oh, oh, the frogs. Okay. Frogs. Frogs. Gay. A
classic, of course. I don't like them putting chemicals in
the water! to turn the friggin' frogs gay. Oh, classic.
Classic, classic, classic. Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado, 200.
Jobs Karma. Your resume has about 10 seconds to make
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Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs,
jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote. And a couple more
associate executive producers with $200, Steve from Hillsborough, Oregon. And
Steve says, thank you for sparing all of our sanity
during the trying times with the COVID hoax. Keep up
the great work as your media deconstruction is second to
none. God bless. Dame Toni Helft. In Oklahoma City, Oklahoma,
200 bucks. She wrote a note. She's got a birthday.
I think she, yeah. Did I say, I said, you
said he. But I probably didn't. This is where you
say, you're supposed to say, that word never left my
lips. That word never left my mouth. Dear John and
Adam, first off, I want to say how happy I
am that John's recovering so well. I was very concerned
when he had his heart attack and subsequent surgery and
very distressed hearing about his anesthesia problems. I'm no doctor,
but I'm fairly certain you're not supposed to be awake.
Yeah, that's what they tell me. No kidding. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. Personally, I would be having... having trauma flashbacks
for, oh, for sure. Second, I noticed that in episode
1860, there were no donations in the $100 range. This
is very concerning to me. I know money is tight
right now, but maybe people don't realize that this is
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you for that, Dame Tony. Finally, it's my birthday on
May 5th. Everybody's birthday is on May 5th. So here's
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No jingles or karma. Thank you for your courage. God
bless you both. Dame Tony Helps. Thank you, Tony. Appreciate
that. And thank you to all of these executive and
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works. If you can support us with $200 or above,
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Boob, Kevin McLaughlin. He is the Archduke of Luna, lover
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Sigma Shoreline Washington 7650 birthday donation for his dad Sir
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our 50s. And that's it. Short list today. We definitely
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on May 25th. And Sir Sigma says happy birthday to
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birthday from all of us here at the best podcast
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not one, but we have two Orders of the Heart.
Behold the... Miss time Very limited edition pins that come
with your $1,000 donation along with your knighthood if you're
not already a knight. Jason Peterson and Jim Indalis. is
Grab our night. We did have one karma request. How's
selling karma for everybody? You've got karma. And an F
cancer for Clayton Swim. You've got... karma and then we
have the one night so let me get Blade here.
Are you back? Are you back? You've muted yourself. That's
what happened. You've muted yourself again. I'm right here. Okay.
Where's your sword? I will hold, hold on a second.
Okay. It's the little one. A teeny one! Jason Peterson,
hop on up, sir. You are about to become not
just a knight, but a red knight, and you've already
had. Supported the show in many amounts of thousands of
dollars for which we are eternally grateful, but hereby I
am proud to pronounce the red Welcome to the roundtable,
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and blunts, we got Gerbils, breastmilk and pabliment. Ho ho!
Let me right it's here for you at the round
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Our knight rings are all signet rings, our dame rings
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the roundtable, Red Knight Commodore Jason. No agenda! in California,
as we heard earlier from our associate executive producer. And
it's very easy to do because all you have to
do is go to noagendameetups.com. You just start one and
then you just let everybody know about it. And once
it's on the calendar at noagendameetups.com, I'll mention it. We'll
continue to promote it. You can do all kinds of
things. things to promote it and people will show up
they usually do i'm a little disappointed um Christopher Wexelberger.
He did the Leipzig, Germany meetup. He said it was
a good meetup, but he didn't record a report. He
sent a written report. Which is, I wanted to hear
some... German voices, I wanted to hear your server. I
will read his very short report. I call it a
success. We were three dudes having a good time. even
though neither hookers nor blow were involved. I would like
to thank Dirk and Thilo for stopping by. We decided
to gather again in the near future, so keep an
eye out. for the next Leipzig meetup announcement. Keep up
the great work, says Christopher. Thank you very much. Appreciate
that you did that. Next time, just get your phone
out. Just record it. I'll cut it up. Don't worry
about it. We have a meetup taking place today. It
is, in fact, it is well underway. The TMI EVAC
Zone Win, Lose, or Drone Meetup at Evergreen Brewing. Camp
Hill, Pennsylvania. So I hope to hear a meetup report
from that. And coming up on the 8th of May,
Buda, Texas, Leiden, the Netherlands. On the 9th, Eagle, Idaho,
Santa Rosa, California, and Nashville, Tennessee. The 13th, Unionville in
Ontario. Raleigh, North Carolina, the 14th. The 16th, we have
Fort Wayne, Indiana, Coleyville, Texas, Los Banos, California. and Wilmington,
Delaware, along with Fort Wayne, Indiana, too, in Indiana. May
23rd, Los Angeles, California, another Leo Bravo meetup, I'm sure.
Hickson, Tennessee, on the 23rd, and Franklin, Tennessee. And the
25th is Squim, Washington. Mimi will be attending, so bring
your TooManyEggs.com books, and she will gladly sign them. for
you. You should probably have some along with her for
sale. You can buy them on the spot. These are
the no agenda meetups. This is where connection brings you
protection because the people you meet at a meetup will
be your first responders in any emergency guaranteed. They're the
people that keep you stable, who will keep you able.
Go to noagendameetups.com. Find one near you. You can search
many different ways. If you can't or if we just
feel like it, even if there's one in your area,
you can always set up another one. Go ahead. Noagentameetups.com.
Set up one yourself. It's easy and always guaranteed a
party. *music* same John's tip of the day coming up
along with three dynamite end of show mixes. You will
love that. Before we do anything, though, we need to
select our end of show ISO. We've kind of forgotten
why we do it, but it is kind of fun
because we get to select odd things that are short
and we'll play at the very end of the show.
It's a three for three today. So I'll go first
because you always think you have something better than me.
I went to the well for this one. It's really
incredible. Easy, obviously. We have this one. Props to them.
And that's it! Oh, that's no good. That's no good.
That's actually pretty good. Yeah. Okay, I got three. Let's
start with crazy. These are crazy people. These are crazy
people. It's alright. I could use it in a pinch.
Amazing. Another great show. Amazing. I have to stop it
there because there's like seven seconds left, so. you didn't
cut that one right we can use that one i'm
fine with that another great show amazing she hasn't sound
very amaze but okay no okay boobs if you like
boobs donate to no agenda okay that's clearly the one
and again there's like 16 seconds left you're what i
tried i don't understand why i'm screwing this up you
are screwing it up but you can make up for
it with another dynamite tip of the day It's for
you and me Just the tip with JCB. and sometimes
add Tip of the day ideas, just send them with
the subject line, tip of the day, which is exactly
what Commodore Sir Mech did. With this pretty good tip,
I checked it out. It's a software product called Ventoy.
It's one of the big, I've seen these things before
and I've used them. Ventoy? This one here seems to
be pretty damn good. Ventoy? How do you spell Ventoy?
V-E-N-T-O-Y. Okay, Ventoy. And it's Ventoy.net. Right? Yeah. Venturi.net This
allows you to create bootable USBs. which can come in
quite handy if you're on the road and you just
take your whole system and make a bootable USB, stick
it in someone's computer. And blow it up. Change the
boot order and boom, you got your whole system. booting
from the USB drive. It just works well. Huh. So
what's wrong with just taking your computer? What if you
got a big giant desktop piece of, just a, I
don't, you know, in my case, I could do that
because I'm hauling around these nucks, these little bitty things,
but no. You don't want to. Or you say you
have a work office. You have a home office and
an office computer, and it's a big clunker, and it's
a company thing. It's not a laptop. Yeah, there's plenty
of reasons that you want a bootable USB. Or we
say you got a secret system. You got a bunch
of stuff you don't want people looking at. Well, I'll
be honest. I always have a bootable USB of Omarchi
Linux. I carry that with me just in case I
need to set up a whole new show. Like a
whole new show system. Yeah. But that would be pretty
much really the end, the end of everything if I
had to resort to that. That would be pretty bad.
Yeah, well... Well, this is not... Anyway, it uses just
an ISO file. Create an ISO file, drop it on
here, and it'll... works well all right check it out
please everybody who's going to do that raise your hand
without talking find them all at tip of the day.net
noagendafun.com Just the tip with JCB And sometimes, Adam. Created
by Dana Burnetti. I got more pleasure out of your...
Bordeaux Blanche. I have another wine tip coming next show.
Okay, good. And that concludes your broadcast day for today.
Coming up next on the No Agenda stream, we have
our big dumb mouth, OBDM. And, oh, they're going to
be talking about the Infowars shutdown. AI consciousness and Area
51 quakes. A second half of show if I've ever
seen one. Ever seen one before. So that'll be next
on the No Agenda stream. If you just keep listening
to your modern podcast app, it will be the same.
And end of show mix is from Just Baker, who
is just kicking butt. with the Sunos, Chris Mattson, an
MVP, of course, bringing you the latest in anything promptable.
I think they're pretty good. And we will be back
on Thursday. I will be coming to you from Amsterdam,
the Netherlands, looking forward to... Ooh, risky. Risky. Yeah, very
risky. Coming to you from the airport hotel, the one
that had their logo just catch on fire. Coming to
you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, Fredericksburg,
Texas. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from
Refinery Row, I'm John C. Dvorak. Remember us at noagendadonations.com,
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