1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,630 Adam Curry: She's the Yoko of the Royals man. Adam curry, John 2 00:00:03,630 --> 00:00:07,110 C Devorah. They made for 2023. This is your award winning 3 00:00:07,110 --> 00:00:10,590 combination media assassination episode 1552. 4 00:00:10,890 --> 00:00:12,870 Unknown: This is no agenda 5 00:00:13,770 --> 00:00:16,740 Adam Curry: cranking up the drone wars and broadcasting live 6 00:00:16,740 --> 00:00:19,950 from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here. Number six. The 7 00:00:19,950 --> 00:00:21,840 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry. 8 00:00:22,050 --> 00:00:24,270 John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley. They're 9 00:00:24,270 --> 00:00:27,150 considering the date. We're all saying the same thing. May the 10 00:00:27,150 --> 00:00:31,800 Fourth be with you? I'm John C. Dvorak. Buzzkill. 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,240 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I forgot all about that. I'm not a not a 12 00:00:37,170 --> 00:00:41,040 Star Wars fan. I mean, I'm, I mean, I watched the first one 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,800 and Empire Strikes Back and that was it. I was done. That was it. 14 00:00:46,860 --> 00:00:51,270 I didn't need any more than that. Yeah. Was enough was 15 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:55,830 enough? Well, I will say, there's not going to be any Star 16 00:00:55,830 --> 00:01:00,630 Wars movies for a while. It's happened twice in the existence 17 00:01:00,630 --> 00:01:04,650 of this show. And two and both times it has only benefited us. 18 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:09,600 John C Dvorak: Joshua has no edge. 19 00:01:12,570 --> 00:01:13,680 Adam Curry: The writer strike. 20 00:01:14,039 --> 00:01:18,239 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know. It is only been once during the 21 00:01:18,239 --> 00:01:21,929 show. This is the second time. Yeah, this is the second time so 22 00:01:21,929 --> 00:01:25,649 and it lasted the first one last 100 days. And it did took it 23 00:01:25,649 --> 00:01:29,909 ruined the business and it hurt them. The the bottom line in 24 00:01:29,909 --> 00:01:34,979 Hollywood, California. And I don't see. The thing is I think, 25 00:01:35,549 --> 00:01:37,469 do I think I have a clip like this? Maybe 26 00:01:37,500 --> 00:01:41,670 Adam Curry: I have a clip, I backgrounder and was talking 27 00:01:41,670 --> 00:01:44,430 about just from France? 24. Because you know they at least 28 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,760 Yeah, why don't we try it? At least I tried to give us some 29 00:01:47,850 --> 00:01:49,200 some valid reporting. 30 00:01:49,230 --> 00:01:51,900 Unknown: It is day one of the first Hollywood writers strike 31 00:01:51,900 --> 00:01:55,110 in 15 years and writers have certainly turned out in huge 32 00:01:55,110 --> 00:01:57,990 numbers. Hundreds of people marching right now in front of 33 00:01:57,990 --> 00:02:01,590 the Netflix headquarters in Hollywood chanting slogans like 34 00:02:01,590 --> 00:02:05,520 corporate greed has got to go, no contract, no script, and LA 35 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,000 is a union town. And that's a case. We've heard lots of 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,300 support lots of cars, dozens and dozens of them honking their 37 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:15,150 horns in support of these writers as they drive by these 38 00:02:15,150 --> 00:02:18,270 writers who were asking for several things, including better 39 00:02:18,270 --> 00:02:22,020 pay streaming residuals, or royalties for when a show that 40 00:02:22,020 --> 00:02:24,480 they've been working on is then sold on to a streaming giant 41 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,020 late nights like Netflix, and also mandatory staffing. But 42 00:02:28,050 --> 00:02:31,620 that last point is the one that was really the major sticking 43 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:34,380 point in negotiations with these entertainment companies. And 44 00:02:34,380 --> 00:02:37,320 that is what led to those talks breaking down last night. We're 45 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,420 already seeing some consequences. Some of those late 46 00:02:39,420 --> 00:02:42,210 night talk shows like Jimmy Kimmel Live, The Late Show with 47 00:02:42,210 --> 00:02:46,170 Stephen Colbert, all going into reruns starting tonight. And of 48 00:02:46,170 --> 00:02:49,410 course, as long as the longer this strike goes on, the more 49 00:02:49,410 --> 00:02:52,020 consequences we will start exploring the entertainment 50 00:02:52,020 --> 00:02:53,370 world here in Hollywood. 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,910 Adam Curry: Yeah, I always love this except this time, they're 52 00:02:56,910 --> 00:02:59,850 really screwed. They're totally screwed this time because 53 00:02:59,850 --> 00:03:03,390 they're not gonna get anything they want. There's no residuals 54 00:03:03,390 --> 00:03:08,880 and streaming. They all accepted these deals like oh, okay, well, 55 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:09,150 you 56 00:03:09,510 --> 00:03:11,940 John C Dvorak: need and they got bonused on him. Yes, they got 57 00:03:11,940 --> 00:03:15,450 extra money upfront. I'm not undecided. The writers being a 58 00:03:15,450 --> 00:03:19,080 writer myself, I'm not in that union. But I will say this, they 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,130 were giving them extra money because of the no residual 60 00:03:23,130 --> 00:03:26,190 situations with from the streamers on Netflix. And those 61 00:03:26,190 --> 00:03:30,540 guys. They were throwing money around like it was crazy. Net, 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,040 Netflix and Amazon Studios give us tons of money Fire Rod did. 63 00:03:35,820 --> 00:03:40,020 And and my understanding is that the studio is also expected to 64 00:03:40,020 --> 00:03:45,540 strike some years ago and have have put so much stuff in the 65 00:03:45,540 --> 00:03:49,560 can Yeah. That they can flow for a year. 66 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,710 Adam Curry: Well, so there's a number of things and and I'm not 67 00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:56,190 against organized labor. I'm not against unions. I think I am a 68 00:03:56,460 --> 00:04:00,540 pro union. I'm sag AFTRA, I believe although I've never made 69 00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:04,290 enough money to get into the into the retirement fund. I used 70 00:04:04,290 --> 00:04:07,380 to get I don't even get money from anymore I used to get 12 71 00:04:07,380 --> 00:04:12,360 cents from seriously I would get like $1.05 I would get a 72 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,800 residual check from Swamp Thing. And one thing and circus of the 73 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,760 stars also got me residuals for a little bit there. But part of 74 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,120 it is you know this per episode saying and then you know, on 75 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,900 streaming, you know, if you would do friends today, which 76 00:04:27,900 --> 00:04:32,010 had what 30 episodes a season, it would have eight now so 77 00:04:32,010 --> 00:04:33,060 there's a per episode 78 00:04:33,420 --> 00:04:35,100 John C Dvorak: thing everyone's subscribed to these eight 79 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:39,480 episodes. In fact, the even on network TV, there was one show 80 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:45,990 called The Good Place, which was funny show but it was like 10 it 81 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:48,900 very It wasn't even the same from year to year it was it was 82 00:04:48,900 --> 00:04:52,500 10 episodes and then they take a year and a half off because 83 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:55,290 they're I will get to an end and when we get 10 Good episodes or 84 00:04:55,290 --> 00:04:58,020 12 Good episodes, we'll put another season together and they 85 00:04:58,020 --> 00:05:00,900 go on and I never been what I love liked that show, but I 86 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:03,870 never even watched the last season. There was like a two 87 00:05:03,870 --> 00:05:06,960 year delay for it to come out because they've taken their 88 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:12,540 time. I mean, come on. And Sid Caesar used to do like 40 shows 89 00:05:12,540 --> 00:05:15,960 a year, hour and a half comedies all original 90 00:05:16,020 --> 00:05:23,940 Adam Curry: way. We do 110 We do have the writers now you see, 91 00:05:23,940 --> 00:05:26,310 like, none of the late night shows all those guys. They're 92 00:05:26,340 --> 00:05:29,730 worthless without their writer room, and the jokes are okay. 93 00:05:29,940 --> 00:05:32,040 But you know, they might write more than the jokes. It's the 94 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,450 questions. It's the interviews. It's also incredibly phony and 95 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:42,480 just bull crap. And please, Writers Guild of America, don't 96 00:05:42,510 --> 00:05:45,240 you know, members don't write us and tell him he don't know what 97 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,730 it's about. I don't care. Really. We 98 00:05:47,730 --> 00:05:49,650 John C Dvorak: have to listen what it's about, you know, who 99 00:05:49,650 --> 00:05:51,060 sent it to me? Yeah, the 100 00:05:51,090 --> 00:05:53,370 Adam Curry: it's a huge list. One of our guys 101 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,730 John C Dvorak: has is involved in the strike. And he sent us a 102 00:05:56,730 --> 00:06:00,120 huge list of all the demands and all the counter proposal and put 103 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,830 Adam Curry: it in the show notes. Everyone can take a look 104 00:06:01,830 --> 00:06:06,330 at it. But the world has changed. You've changed speakers 105 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:08,700 John C Dvorak: changed. I mean, it changed for every writer. I 106 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:11,490 mean, look at the magazine business. If you want to go back 107 00:06:11,490 --> 00:06:13,950 to the early days like face, let's say when the magazine 108 00:06:13,950 --> 00:06:14,670 business you're 109 00:06:14,670 --> 00:06:16,950 Adam Curry: a millionaire back in the day, you were riding high 110 00:06:16,950 --> 00:06:20,130 on the hog, you had limo 24 hour service, you had your money in a 111 00:06:20,130 --> 00:06:21,240 brown paper bag? 112 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,030 Unknown: I did. Can you tell us a 113 00:06:24,030 --> 00:06:24,930 Adam Curry: little bit just a tad. 114 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:33,390 John C Dvorak: And then if you Sure. And so if you go to back, 115 00:06:33,570 --> 00:06:37,230 let's say in the 70s he go back to that there was a period of 116 00:06:37,230 --> 00:06:41,130 time before that where there was called the short story market 117 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,090 where all these magazines like Colliers and all the use of 118 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,760 published short stories and then they were quarterly so it would 119 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,870 do stuff like that. Did that that business? Who's what short 120 00:06:51,870 --> 00:06:55,350 story writer? Do you personally know? I don't know of any. And 121 00:06:55,350 --> 00:06:55,710 also, 122 00:06:55,710 --> 00:06:58,770 Adam Curry: if you look at the business, Disney plus Netflix, 123 00:06:59,070 --> 00:07:03,570 Netflix, Paramount. These guys are bleeding money, the whole 124 00:07:03,570 --> 00:07:06,840 thing was short sighted. They all were gonna get into 125 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:09,480 streaming business in the future. Yeah, maybe during the 126 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,170 lockdown. You know, there was some some business some future 127 00:07:13,170 --> 00:07:16,320 in it. But then that ended during COVID. And you know, 128 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,410 people are going back to the movies. It's just it's a 129 00:07:19,410 --> 00:07:23,460 different world. And and the free money train is over, it is 130 00:07:23,490 --> 00:07:27,390 over. So you know, there's just not any money speculative money 131 00:07:27,390 --> 00:07:31,920 that's going into these projects. You know, most most 132 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,730 companies are crowdfunding these days. By the way, speaking of 133 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:42,600 bull crap media companies, Vice media. Finally, finally, this 134 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,010 thing is going out of business, 135 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,460 John C Dvorak: but there's buzz, Buzzfeed News, killer, whatever 136 00:07:47,460 --> 00:07:47,580 they 137 00:07:48,420 --> 00:07:52,440 Adam Curry: vice media, which was blooming I used to look at 138 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,690 this thing all the time. Like how are these guys doing it? 139 00:07:54,900 --> 00:07:58,440 They basically they started as a magazine in Canada. You know, 140 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,430 Shane Smith, bullcrap artists, Gavin McInnes, who started proud 141 00:08:02,430 --> 00:08:05,160 boys and and ran around his podcast with a dildo buzz but 142 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:10,770 flying people. They started by hoodwinking Murdoch into a $70 143 00:08:10,770 --> 00:08:15,600 million investment. But then they raised in total $900 144 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,100 million from Time Warner from all you know, all these 145 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:23,790 different companies. And they had no business model. They were 146 00:08:23,790 --> 00:08:26,550 basically they were an advertising company that made 147 00:08:26,550 --> 00:08:31,350 hip content, you know, and then they actually bought an ad 148 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:35,070 consulting company with 500 people, they built a 60,000 149 00:08:35,070 --> 00:08:39,840 square foot facility in Brooklyn. And finally is like, 150 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:42,930 no one is dumb enough to put money into it and now it's just 151 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,400 gonna be it's gonna be going out of business. It's like it's all 152 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,510 of this was bull crap. It was built on bull. And Allah that's 153 00:08:51,510 --> 00:08:55,710 what a lot of this the streaming stuff, I'm sorry, writers and 154 00:08:56,010 --> 00:09:01,680 Spotify, who of course allowed gimlet and parcast to unionize 155 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,360 under the WGA to another podcasts are affected by this 156 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,310 Unknown: pod. All these true flags? Yes. You know that. 157 00:09:11,819 --> 00:09:14,579 John C Dvorak: I know about the unionization? That gimlet Yeah. 158 00:09:14,639 --> 00:09:18,809 And some of the other efforts, but that's under the Writers 159 00:09:18,809 --> 00:09:19,889 Guild WGA. 160 00:09:19,890 --> 00:09:26,550 Adam Curry: East. Yeah. And that was awesome. But that was also 161 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:31,290 it's crazy. It was premised on bowl. Because you and I talked 162 00:09:31,290 --> 00:09:34,950 about this all the time, like you can't. The podcast model 163 00:09:35,220 --> 00:09:38,700 does not work with executive producers and producers and line 164 00:09:38,700 --> 00:09:43,170 producers and editors. No, it works when one or two people do 165 00:09:43,170 --> 00:09:47,850 it themselves, themselves. And they may be maybe you're lucky 166 00:09:47,850 --> 00:09:51,210 enough to have an extra person or like we do value for value. 167 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:54,840 We make everybody a producer and give everybody credit for making 168 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,110 the show and make everyone feel that they're part of the show. 169 00:09:58,260 --> 00:10:00,510 But no, they weren't all Hollywood. And then when the 170 00:10:00,510 --> 00:10:04,050 money dried up, we'll start selling your Neumann mics people 171 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:09,990 know I'm working off a $700 piece of gear here, dad $70,000 172 00:10:09,990 --> 00:10:10,290 Yeah, 173 00:10:10,290 --> 00:10:13,140 John C Dvorak: gear. Yeah. Yeah. And your gear sounds better. In 174 00:10:13,140 --> 00:10:15,960 fact, as we talked about earlier before the show, I've always 175 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,660 thought you should win an award and I'm guaranteeing that you 176 00:10:18,660 --> 00:10:19,020 will 177 00:10:19,050 --> 00:10:21,000 Adam Curry: and I know what I'm going to snub I'm going to snub 178 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:29,760 the academy. Like gonna be accepting on behalf Robert 179 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:36,360 Downey Jr. You know, something like that. I'm not gonna go. No, 180 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,170 but it's, it's sad because I don't think there's going to be 181 00:10:40,170 --> 00:10:43,080 an agreement that is satisfactory for the writers who 182 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,970 really just have to find they should be doing pot. In fact, I 183 00:10:47,970 --> 00:10:50,610 was just talking they are. I was talking. I was talking to my 184 00:10:50,610 --> 00:10:53,310 buddy who got kicked out of Disney. 185 00:10:55,110 --> 00:10:56,760 John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Our friend. Yeah, 186 00:10:56,790 --> 00:10:59,040 Adam Curry: I've never met him but kicked I consider him a 187 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,950 friend from before. Yes. And I have had dinner. I've stayed at 188 00:11:01,950 --> 00:11:04,080 his house. So we actually are friends. So your buddy's real 189 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,840 true friends. And he's and he, you know, they still there. They 190 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,750 still have on payroll because, Oh, oops, they couldn't actually 191 00:11:09,750 --> 00:11:12,600 kick him out. Because, you know, a whole division started to fall 192 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,700 apart. So Oh, could you please stay? 193 00:11:17,070 --> 00:11:18,360 John C Dvorak: That's not reported? 194 00:11:18,780 --> 00:11:21,690 Adam Curry: Well, I'm probably already going further than I 195 00:11:21,690 --> 00:11:31,080 should. But as we were talking. We agreed. You cannot Hollywood 196 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,650 has they don't see it. They cannot go up against the number 197 00:11:34,650 --> 00:11:40,050 one non union content producer in the world, which is taking 198 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:45,750 all the money. And that is tick tock. Tick tock is where all the 199 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:48,540 money is. He agreed with me. 200 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,690 John C Dvorak: Yeah. He said, You know, they were funny. I 201 00:11:51,690 --> 00:11:57,390 mean, I I harken back to the 90s. When there was a crossover 202 00:11:57,390 --> 00:12:00,000 point in this, this happens every so often is not observed 203 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,560 well by the pundit class. And that was the crossover point 204 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:08,790 where the game game computer game and console business was 205 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:11,310 making more money than the movie business. 206 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,910 Adam Curry: Oh, hundreds of millions more I would say, 207 00:12:15,150 --> 00:12:20,130 John C Dvorak: yes, they were making and profiting more than 208 00:12:20,130 --> 00:12:24,180 the movie business. And these crossover points take place all 209 00:12:24,180 --> 00:12:27,180 the time. And it's like when something crosses over and then 210 00:12:27,510 --> 00:12:31,890 everything has to adjust once it happens. And Hollywood, from 211 00:12:31,890 --> 00:12:35,070 what I can tell really has been very reluctant to adjust to 212 00:12:35,070 --> 00:12:35,670 anything. 213 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,610 Adam Curry: Well, of course, because it's all it's all been 214 00:12:38,610 --> 00:12:41,310 such a wonderful system like oh, yes, well, you don't have 215 00:12:41,310 --> 00:12:45,780 guaranteed minimum drama ball. Oh, no, just look I've been in 216 00:12:45,780 --> 00:12:49,320 Hollywood look. You've been in Hollywood you know how it's a 217 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,800 bunch of arrogant dicks and everyone's in on the game. And 218 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,830 yet I mean there's a lot of very talented people make no mistake 219 00:12:56,010 --> 00:13:00,720 incredibly talented people. But you know but all of it is the 220 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,290 fire leaves you you know the fire and well how great is the 221 00:13:04,290 --> 00:13:06,930 writing the How great is the writing been and let's just add 222 00:13:06,930 --> 00:13:10,890 to that, that how the streamers but Hollywood, whatever you want 223 00:13:10,890 --> 00:13:15,030 the content creation business. They are also captured by the 224 00:13:15,030 --> 00:13:18,510 magical artificial intelligence. And I think they truly believe 225 00:13:18,510 --> 00:13:21,990 that they can cut costs by using chat GPT to build a bare bones 226 00:13:21,990 --> 00:13:25,560 script. These people are insanely absolutely correct. 227 00:13:25,590 --> 00:13:29,220 Insanely stupid. So this is another thing and they're not 228 00:13:29,220 --> 00:13:32,220 going to give up on that. That's what the writers apparently also 229 00:13:32,220 --> 00:13:36,720 want. guarantees that that exactly, that will not happen. I 230 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,970 think every article you heard is Hollywood. Writers demanding 231 00:13:41,970 --> 00:13:48,150 studios regulate regulate AI so it doesn't steal their jobs. Now 232 00:13:48,150 --> 00:13:52,350 of course it's going to steal your job. Yeah, how about this 233 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,490 just just people on Tik Tok are gonna are going to be the new 234 00:13:56,490 --> 00:13:59,070 millionaires they're gonna do a great job but a lot of them are 235 00:13:59,070 --> 00:14:02,460 already millionaires. They're gonna create groovy stuff and 236 00:14:02,460 --> 00:14:05,220 people will enjoy it it'll be short form everyone's everyone's 237 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:09,090 horrible. Jacked up all jacked up like 30 seconds. 238 00:14:10,860 --> 00:14:12,390 Unknown: Mega drug hits. 239 00:14:12,870 --> 00:14:16,560 John C Dvorak: But this stuff goes on forever. I want to since 240 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:19,620 you brought up the AI thing with these guys. I want to bring up 241 00:14:19,620 --> 00:14:22,980 an AI clip. Okay, here's the only one I have so we're gonna 242 00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:27,960 talk about AI okay. You know that she gar and crystal ball. 243 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,640 They have this podcast by the way 244 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,230 Adam Curry: can I just say I find her outfit odd. Now blindly 245 00:14:34,230 --> 00:14:34,530 listen 246 00:14:34,530 --> 00:14:36,300 John C Dvorak: on audio so I don't see what she's wearing. 247 00:14:36,330 --> 00:14:36,540 But 248 00:14:36,570 --> 00:14:38,850 Adam Curry: you and I as producers, you know, so they 249 00:14:38,850 --> 00:14:41,280 have a first of all, congratulations to them because 250 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,580 they let where they leave. They left the hill on the hill and 251 00:14:44,610 --> 00:14:47,580 everyone like you idiots and they did a pretty good job and 252 00:14:47,580 --> 00:14:50,970 the Crown Fahd crowdfunded crowdfunded stuff and people 253 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,460 John C Dvorak: I thought, I think of all the people that did 254 00:14:53,460 --> 00:14:59,280 a spin off like that arrogantly, yes and with with criticism, I 255 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,270 think they did a great job they, they, they gotta have a working 256 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:06,420 operation. Although, if you listen to their more recent 257 00:15:06,420 --> 00:15:09,060 podcasts, they want to get more money so they can buy a big 258 00:15:09,060 --> 00:15:09,900 studio. 259 00:15:09,930 --> 00:15:14,550 Adam Curry: Now I heard that the curry Devorah consulting group 260 00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:21,360 would like to make a statement. Don't do it. You're stupid. We 261 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,070 just have to say Leo Laporte. Don't do it. Joe Rogan's studio 262 00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:32,880 is like a little space that he that he subleases from a fitness 263 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:39,270 company, in an industrial area of Austin is what you see is 264 00:15:39,270 --> 00:15:43,980 what it is. It's a small studio. You don't need big studios, you 265 00:15:43,980 --> 00:15:47,460 don't need to be don't go that the whatever you're doing now 266 00:15:47,460 --> 00:15:49,980 the thing that you have, whether it's green screen, or I'm not 267 00:15:49,980 --> 00:15:54,630 quite sure what it is. It's fine. Don't Don't throw the 268 00:15:54,630 --> 00:15:56,610 money away. Would you agree? 269 00:15:57,690 --> 00:16:02,520 John C Dvorak: Partner? Absolutely. It's crazy. Once you 270 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,670 know what to think and think you're gonna turn into some you 271 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:08,370 know, massive This is the problem is getting a big head. 272 00:16:08,460 --> 00:16:12,660 Instead of just pocketing the profits stop shrink your head, 273 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,590 trigger head. So they have they're so big now that they 274 00:16:16,590 --> 00:16:22,890 have this, this couple whose name is Emily and Ryan. So every 275 00:16:22,890 --> 00:16:27,900 once in a while they take they have the shows there's and 276 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:33,150 Emily, Emily's here talking about AI and how it's making an 277 00:16:33,150 --> 00:16:36,810 incursion. And she makes a comment in here that and she's, 278 00:16:37,410 --> 00:16:40,260 I thought I would have thought initially listening to because 279 00:16:40,260 --> 00:16:43,260 I've never heard these two before that she's like cokehead 280 00:16:43,260 --> 00:16:46,890 She sounds coked up. But in fact, when you listen to when 281 00:16:46,890 --> 00:16:48,120 you listen to her, the 282 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,760 Adam Curry: whole Piper's up been doing Hollywood coke Stop 283 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:51,150 it. 284 00:16:52,050 --> 00:16:54,960 John C Dvorak: You can tell she has a cold, okay? Because you 285 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:00,810 can hear, see and hear anything, but she's not coked up. She is 286 00:17:00,810 --> 00:17:05,520 just got a cold, but she sounds terrible. And he or she is going 287 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,270 on a little bit about AI and she drops a little bombshell in here 288 00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:11,130 that just I'm just a head shaker. 289 00:17:11,340 --> 00:17:13,440 Unknown: Oh my gosh. And that's what Hinton is saying. I mean, 290 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,250 he's saying, you know, they if you think about what AI sees as 291 00:17:17,250 --> 00:17:19,770 increasing its power, what a algorithm might see is 292 00:17:19,980 --> 00:17:23,640 increasing power. It's cloning itself it is doing going after 293 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,340 other people that threatened its power, just logically, you can 294 00:17:26,340 --> 00:17:28,590 understand how an algorithm would get from point A to point 295 00:17:28,590 --> 00:17:32,520 B. And that creates something that spirals out of human 296 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,720 control very, very quickly. And so I am concerned about things 297 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,080 like teenagers using AI and getting you know, basically 298 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,880 sexually assaulted by AI. I 299 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,230 think that's a huge concern. 300 00:17:48,450 --> 00:17:51,420 Adam Curry: Don't touch me there. Show me on the doll where 301 00:17:51,420 --> 00:17:54,630 the AI assaulted you. What is that you 302 00:17:54,630 --> 00:17:55,590 John C Dvorak: believe that? 303 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,720 Adam Curry: Well, you know, assault these days is just 304 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,700 saying, you know, like, Hey, nice dress, you know, that's 305 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:00,120 sexual. 306 00:18:00,300 --> 00:18:01,200 John C Dvorak: Nice tickets. 307 00:18:01,230 --> 00:18:04,860 Adam Curry: Go. Stop it. I don't like the word tickets. I don't 308 00:18:04,860 --> 00:18:09,990 like it's always bothered me. I don't know why. I'm just saying 309 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:10,980 John C Dvorak: look within. 310 00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:15,810 Unknown: Thank you. Thank you, Grace Hopper, she'll do that. 311 00:18:16,980 --> 00:18:20,400 John C Dvorak: Well, so I you know, this is like, people are, 312 00:18:20,670 --> 00:18:23,820 they're out of control in their analysis of AI. 313 00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:26,460 Adam Curry: Okay, luckily, I have a few clips to talk about. 314 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,020 Yeah, I 315 00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:30,090 John C Dvorak: would have gotten more this one I just thought was 316 00:18:30,090 --> 00:18:32,940 okay. I don't know if you could top that one. But you can, I'm 317 00:18:32,940 --> 00:18:33,720 sure come up with 318 00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:34,950 Unknown: a couple of things. 319 00:18:37,020 --> 00:18:40,230 Adam Curry: Let's just, it's almost like, you know, all these 320 00:18:40,260 --> 00:18:45,060 euphemisms. 99% of what people are talking about is not 321 00:18:45,090 --> 00:18:49,170 artificial intelligence. I'm sorry. 100% is there is no 322 00:18:49,260 --> 00:18:54,300 intelligence that exists outside of humans and mammals I guess. 323 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:58,110 Or org biological organisms. That's yeah, that I think that's 324 00:18:58,110 --> 00:19:01,230 safe to say. So to say it's artificial intelligence. There 325 00:19:01,230 --> 00:19:06,600 is no intelligence there's only copy paste you know, scoring 326 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:12,780 things None None of this is true. And the the emails we get 327 00:19:12,780 --> 00:19:15,360 from people well you know, it's going to be AI is going to be 328 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:19,140 great for people Yeah, sure. We have all kinds of tools you 329 00:19:19,140 --> 00:19:23,310 know, Photoshop if you want to call it is AI Photoshop. There's 330 00:19:23,340 --> 00:19:24,180 all kinds I agree 331 00:19:24,180 --> 00:19:27,300 John C Dvorak: 100% With this, what you just said Photoshop is 332 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:28,140 AI you said 333 00:19:28,140 --> 00:19:32,220 Adam Curry: 100% We have to rock against that we have to rock 334 00:19:32,220 --> 00:19:33,330 against the 100% 335 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,010 John C Dvorak: I only picked it up recently. I know I'm gonna 336 00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:40,830 write you I won't be able to turn it off so quickly so I 337 00:19:40,830 --> 00:19:43,800 you're gonna have I'm gonna vote but I appreciate being called 338 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:44,220 out. Yeah. 339 00:19:45,540 --> 00:19:48,120 Adam Curry: So that is not artificial intelligence, you 340 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:54,840 know, a transcripts that it's incredible that we use otter.ai 341 00:19:54,870 --> 00:19:59,070 and cost 20 bucks a month. And I throw the mp3 in there and like 342 00:19:59,070 --> 00:20:02,460 an hour later Oops out and it's it's recognized your voice it 343 00:20:02,460 --> 00:20:06,750 tags you. Now, of course, half the time, it'll say it'll spell 344 00:20:06,750 --> 00:20:12,600 your name JH en si Jhansi Dvorak. Sometimes it gets it 345 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,110 right. But it's still even identifying different voices is 346 00:20:16,110 --> 00:20:19,440 quite. That's remarkable. It's remarkable, but it's not 347 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,970 artificial intelligence. We have a lot of this stuff. So what 348 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:29,280 what people are calling art now? Tina does all of the resumes for 349 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,070 the kids, you know, because this is what she does. She's very, 350 00:20:32,220 --> 00:20:35,940 very good at it. She also coaches, you know, here's, 351 00:20:35,940 --> 00:20:38,430 here's how you want to ask for this, you know, so there's money 352 00:20:38,430 --> 00:20:43,260 for this. And so, one of the girls is, you know, up for 353 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:46,380 review when she wants to ask for some more money. And so Tina 354 00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:49,080 says, you know, okay, I'll write this up. So now I have something 355 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,200 I'll send that to you, you take a look at it. And she says to 356 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,780 me, Oh, wow, she really wrote something herself. And she's 357 00:20:54,780 --> 00:20:57,840 reading it to me, John, within within 30 seconds of like, chat. 358 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,470 GPT. Yeah. And then she went, Oh, you're right. And then we 359 00:21:01,470 --> 00:21:03,540 could identify, you know, there's some repetition of 360 00:21:03,540 --> 00:21:09,420 certain phrases, just chat GPT. And that's not gonna fly. You 361 00:21:09,420 --> 00:21:12,120 know, I don't care how good it gets. It's just it's not. 362 00:21:13,650 --> 00:21:16,590 John C Dvorak: So well, you know, it's a good start to make 363 00:21:16,590 --> 00:21:22,170 it worse. You know, there's tools coming tools that are just 364 00:21:22,170 --> 00:21:26,460 designed to spot that this stuff, of course. And so you 365 00:21:26,460 --> 00:21:29,100 just run it through, it's like the same thing, like just stolen 366 00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:35,280 papers, at RuneFest. Through the system, the computer goes both 367 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,180 ways. It's like a double edged sword it, you know, cuts one way 368 00:21:39,180 --> 00:21:41,760 and it cuts the other. So you can't get away with this for 369 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,240 long. 370 00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:45,510 Adam Curry: You know what, I believe AI is real, when it 371 00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:49,950 really can stop spam. Okay. And why isn't that the first 372 00:21:49,950 --> 00:21:53,520 application? Why isn't that the first one phone calls for that 373 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,150 matter? Oh, have you been I've been getting these texts. And 374 00:21:57,150 --> 00:22:00,690 it's, it's been recent. So I'm not sure what happened. And it 375 00:22:00,690 --> 00:22:02,940 goes like this. And I bet you a lot of people are getting these, 376 00:22:02,970 --> 00:22:05,940 hey, this number has been in my phone for a long time. But I 377 00:22:05,940 --> 00:22:07,920 really don't know who this is. Who are you? 378 00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:10,500 John C Dvorak: Oh, I've not heard about this. But that's a 379 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:11,430 great idea. 380 00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:13,440 Adam Curry: I get a lot of these. Let me see if there's 381 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:19,980 more. It's like, hey, it's all variations of that. Let me see 382 00:22:19,980 --> 00:22:23,310 if I hadn't I usually get rid of them. This one came in this 383 00:22:23,310 --> 00:22:26,340 morning. And it's and it's not from it's like, two or three 384 00:22:26,340 --> 00:22:31,290 numbers or, you know, like known area code, not necessarily some 385 00:22:31,290 --> 00:22:34,890 bullcrap one. But it's text messages, which is a bit 386 00:22:34,890 --> 00:22:38,370 concerning. I wish I could find it either one of those, but it's 387 00:22:38,370 --> 00:22:38,700 always 388 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,230 Unknown: how's the storm? Oh, how's the storm? Did it pass you 389 00:22:43,230 --> 00:22:43,680 yet? 390 00:22:44,940 --> 00:22:48,930 Adam Curry: Oh, I don't know, you know, and stuff like that. 391 00:22:49,470 --> 00:22:51,120 It's all but it's always like, hey, 392 00:22:51,780 --> 00:22:53,760 John C Dvorak: what do we do? Then? The follow up to find out 393 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,200 what's going on? No, I 394 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,180 Adam Curry: have I have a life I have things to do. How 395 00:22:57,180 --> 00:22:58,380 John C Dvorak: to follow up. 396 00:22:58,410 --> 00:23:02,280 Adam Curry: I'm not gonna follow up. Alright, so then we have a 397 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,450 big, big, big thing happen in AI world? Because remember, we all 398 00:23:06,450 --> 00:23:10,260 have to be very, very afraid. Everybody who is not who doesn't 399 00:23:10,260 --> 00:23:14,100 have a an AI play? Let's just call it what it is. That's how 400 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:17,430 the venture capitals talk about that. Do they have an AI play? 401 00:23:17,460 --> 00:23:21,540 No, Elon Musk does not have an AI play. So what does he have to 402 00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:25,170 do? He has to sign the joint letter to say we need to stop 403 00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:28,350 six months so I can catch up and get my own AI play. Get it 404 00:23:28,350 --> 00:23:31,740 funded? And now Oh, no, it's technology 405 00:23:31,740 --> 00:23:34,740 Unknown: that could be superior to the human brain. Okay. 406 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,680 Adam Curry: France 24. Go back. And one 407 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,560 Unknown: of its pioneers now says part of him regrets his 408 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,940 role in creating it. 409 00:23:41,969 --> 00:23:45,329 Adam Curry: This is nothing better than the Creator coming 410 00:23:45,329 --> 00:23:46,679 out and saying, Oh, 411 00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:50,520 Unknown: 75 year old computer scientists. Geoffrey Hinton says 412 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,610 he quit his job at Google so he can independently share his 413 00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:55,980 concerns about AI technology. 414 00:23:56,010 --> 00:23:56,730 were you gonna say? 415 00:23:57,810 --> 00:24:00,180 John C Dvorak: I was gonna say, Yeah, because he's a forced 416 00:24:00,180 --> 00:24:00,960 retirement. 417 00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:04,500 Unknown: Get out of the company, which include fears over 418 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:09,420 disinformation and stealing human jobs. But beyond that, you 419 00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:09,600 hit 420 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,150 Adam Curry: this this is this is a trend. We heard the Writers 421 00:24:12,150 --> 00:24:17,310 Guild of America talks about stealing jobs. This is we're 422 00:24:17,310 --> 00:24:21,870 picking up on something. And now France 24 is talking about AI 423 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:24,000 stealing jobs, which include 424 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,400 Unknown: fears over disinformation and stealing 425 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,550 human jobs, but also go far beyond that. 426 00:24:29,910 --> 00:24:35,730 What do we do to mitigate the long term risks of things more 427 00:24:35,730 --> 00:24:40,020 intelligent than us taking control things like GPT for 428 00:24:40,380 --> 00:24:43,680 Eclipse is a person in the amount of general knowledge it 429 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,820 has an eclipses and by a long way, in terms of reasoning, it's 430 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:50,790 not as good but it doesn't really do simple reasoning. 431 00:24:51,149 --> 00:24:53,429 Adam Curry: Okay, let's just break this down. He says had 432 00:24:53,429 --> 00:24:56,609 more knowledge than any human ever has bullcrap. I have 433 00:24:56,609 --> 00:24:57,269 Google. 434 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,600 John C Dvorak: And he also said in terms of reasoning, It's not 435 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,530 very good. Exactly neither. And you're, that's the other thing. 436 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,480 They said, Well, I can have more effect, I was thinking the same 437 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:15,660 thing you just said, which is that we have never accumulated 438 00:25:15,660 --> 00:25:18,960 in our own brains, the Encyclopedia Britannica, but 439 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,420 we've always had the encyclopedia that we could look. 440 00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:24,480 It's like an extension. It's like a human extension, right? 441 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,630 So how's it going to really outdo us? Because all of those 442 00:25:27,630 --> 00:25:31,530 human extensions are the only thing that it has access to. 443 00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:35,730 It's not. It's not developing new stuff out of the blue. Also, 444 00:25:35,730 --> 00:25:38,730 Adam Curry: I think that as a human, I have Google foo. I 445 00:25:38,730 --> 00:25:42,030 mean, I can search things and get answers that other people 446 00:25:42,030 --> 00:25:46,320 can't because I know how to input the queries. Oh, I'm great 447 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:52,050 at a prompt query. I'm gonna prompt engineer douchebags. This 448 00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:54,630 is a whole new category of douchebag. I'm a prompt 449 00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:55,140 engineer. 450 00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:59,970 John C Dvorak: Do you just admit to being one, 451 00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:02,730 Adam Curry: I am one, but I don't put it on my resume. 452 00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:06,900 Unknown: And given the rate of progress, we expect things to 453 00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:10,530 get better quite fast. So we need to worry about that. 454 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,990 Adam Curry: Worry about it. It's getting better quite fast. 455 00:26:12,990 --> 00:26:13,740 Worried might ask 456 00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:16,410 John C Dvorak: you something, please. Who is this guy? 457 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,750 Adam Curry: This is the Google AI pioneer. 458 00:26:19,380 --> 00:26:20,940 John C Dvorak: I never heard of him. No, of 459 00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:21,930 Adam Curry: course not. 460 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,430 John C Dvorak: Have you heard of him? No. 461 00:26:23,460 --> 00:26:26,280 Adam Curry: Don't even mention his name. Ai pioneer. 462 00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:28,200 John C Dvorak: He said that you missed his name on and off 463 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,830 again. But he 75 ai pioneer How come I haven't heard of it. And 464 00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:34,800 he's old enough. He's 75. He literally is old enough to have 465 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,970 been part of that first AI go round back in the 80s. He took 466 00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:41,460 Adam Curry: he took his absence when they knew they were going 467 00:26:41,460 --> 00:26:43,860 to kick them out. Because that's what Google's doing to get rid 468 00:26:43,860 --> 00:26:47,490 of everybody. And he's out there now doing this too. If they get 469 00:26:47,490 --> 00:26:50,760 his own, he wants money. Like how can I score some money? Oh, 470 00:26:50,850 --> 00:26:53,160 maybe if I warned about this, someone will pick me up as 471 00:26:53,910 --> 00:26:59,580 what's the word an artificial intelligence? Ah, ethics ethics 472 00:26:59,580 --> 00:27:01,260 guy ethics professional. 473 00:27:01,290 --> 00:27:04,170 John C Dvorak: The there'll be some like that's actually dead 474 00:27:04,170 --> 00:27:10,680 analysis is on 100% Oh, you have to stop this. I would try to 475 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,950 stop it in mid chat. And I decided to go through with it. 476 00:27:13,950 --> 00:27:14,100 But 477 00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:17,460 Unknown: if you know, I have no respect for you. So this guy is 478 00:27:20,490 --> 00:27:23,250 Adam Curry: really trying to garner up a gig. 479 00:27:23,460 --> 00:27:26,190 Unknown: It's just the latest warning that tech companies 480 00:27:26,190 --> 00:27:30,240 might be creating a monster they can't control. In March after 481 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,380 open AI released the latest model of its chat bot GBT for 482 00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:37,350 more than 1000 people from the tech industry including 483 00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:38,700 billionaire Elon Musk, 484 00:27:38,730 --> 00:27:41,970 Adam Curry: which of course is always the mark of a smart man 485 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,240 Unknown: and Apple co founder Steve Wozniak signed a letter 486 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:45,840 calling for 487 00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:48,960 Adam Curry: Wozniak dated Kathy Yeah. What's your face? He does 488 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080 not smart guy. Remember that? Kathy Griffin? 489 00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:57,420 Unknown: Jr. He did? Yes. So he's 490 00:27:57,420 --> 00:27:59,460 John C Dvorak: been married for a long time. He's a good guy. 491 00:27:59,490 --> 00:28:01,620 Everyone loves Wozniak. Sure, 492 00:28:01,620 --> 00:28:05,850 Adam Curry: but doesn't mean he's smart. That was a bad date. 493 00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:09,030 John C Dvorak: And Apple co founders, like Kathy Griffin 494 00:28:09,030 --> 00:28:10,560 would for good reason. The co 495 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,680 Unknown: founder Steve Wozniak, signed a letter calling for a 496 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,520 pause on AI development. While the risks are properly studied. 497 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,340 Can you thought well, organizations like the OECD have 498 00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:24,720 issued guidelines, little AI regulation exists. The US just 499 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,300 launched a study of possible accountability measures in 500 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:30,840 April, and the European Union has put forward an artificial 501 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,350 intelligence act, but the far reaching legislation has yet to 502 00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:35,070 be passed. 503 00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:40,110 Adam Curry: So this is all this is just another Gambit. And I 504 00:28:40,110 --> 00:28:42,720 know you agree with me. So it's not even a discussion to be had. 505 00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:46,980 Silicon Valley tech companies like they have nothing. By the 506 00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:50,580 way it costs some astronomical obscene amount to keep the 507 00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:53,610 servers running for this no business model business they 508 00:28:53,610 --> 00:28:59,580 have. You can't advertise on chat GPT. And what are you going 509 00:28:59,580 --> 00:29:02,280 to do with that? How are you going to suck the information 510 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,890 out of people how you're going to suck them dry? And well 511 00:29:04,890 --> 00:29:05,640 they're trying to get 512 00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:08,910 John C Dvorak: right now they're using a subscription model? Oh, 513 00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:12,120 Adam Curry: who's gonna pay for that? People don't pay for 514 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,690 stuff. They won't pay for it. They won't. They're gonna I 515 00:29:15,690 --> 00:29:18,570 agree. I agree. And there's enough open source versions that 516 00:29:18,570 --> 00:29:21,450 you know, I mean, you can even transcripts, you can now run on 517 00:29:21,450 --> 00:29:24,000 your own computer. I just don't want to dedicate a machine to 518 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,120 it. And I'm happy to just give it to someone else who approves 519 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,120 it. I don't I don't I have no time to maintain it. So that's 520 00:29:30,150 --> 00:29:33,300 that's it's not a business. So now they have to involve the 521 00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:36,900 government. Oh, yeah. Well, regulation, okay. So now we can 522 00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:40,020 be we can be regulated, which means we have all the money and 523 00:29:40,020 --> 00:29:43,830 then we can charge company you know, they're moving away from 524 00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:47,970 the business to consumer model with this and and of course, it 525 00:29:47,970 --> 00:29:51,000 uses more energy than all of Bitcoin put together, but make 526 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,200 no mention of that. And even in the United States, of course, 527 00:29:55,410 --> 00:29:59,790 now we have to set up meetings to have a meeting everybody is 528 00:29:59,790 --> 00:30:04,110 from CNBC. This is Gina Raimondo. She's our Commerce 529 00:30:04,110 --> 00:30:07,290 Secretary, an AI genius. I say we also 530 00:30:07,290 --> 00:30:11,250 Unknown: want to lead the world in AI. We want to do it safely, 531 00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:12,360 safely. 532 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,030 Madam Secretary, you're you're part of this meeting that the 533 00:30:15,030 --> 00:30:16,800 Vice President is holding tomorrow with 534 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:19,710 Adam Curry: Kamla Harris is holding a meeting with Gina 535 00:30:19,710 --> 00:30:23,910 Raimondo about AI, I would pay money to sit in that meeting, 536 00:30:24,180 --> 00:30:27,150 John C Dvorak: oh, I would like to be a fly on the wall. I can't 537 00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:29,460 Adam Curry: wait for the Vice President to talk about AI. 538 00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:31,350 Please, Kamala tell it better, 539 00:30:31,410 --> 00:30:34,110 John C Dvorak: they better put to bring the cameras in the 540 00:30:34,110 --> 00:30:37,470 crew, you want to see this? We want that live CEOs 541 00:30:37,470 --> 00:30:40,350 Unknown: of Google and Microsoft and open AI. And I'm curious 542 00:30:40,350 --> 00:30:44,580 what the what the goal is, and what your concern level is 543 00:30:44,610 --> 00:30:45,990 around some of this technology. 544 00:30:47,970 --> 00:30:51,570 The concern level is high. You know, it's a challenge because 545 00:30:51,570 --> 00:30:54,750 on the one hand, the excitement level is high. When you think 546 00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:58,650 about the promise and potential of AI, and what it means for 547 00:30:58,650 --> 00:31:02,130 advances in health care, advances in education, advances 548 00:31:02,130 --> 00:31:04,320 in business, as you say, health care, 549 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,440 Adam Curry: baby health care, because chat GPT can fix you a 550 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,670 healthcare. It's the advantages this is this is huge. The future 551 00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:14,730 It's all ahead of us. There's a world of possibilities 552 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,850 Unknown: in healthcare advances in education, advances in 553 00:31:17,850 --> 00:31:20,790 business, as you say, we're in the lead, and we want to keep 554 00:31:20,790 --> 00:31:25,170 the lead. But it has to be done safely. Incredibly powerful 555 00:31:25,170 --> 00:31:28,710 technology. So we want to have a serious discussion with 556 00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:34,530 industry. As you know, tomorrow will be one discussion among 557 00:31:34,530 --> 00:31:38,460 many that we're having with many stakeholders to try to figure 558 00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:44,160 out how we prove how we go fast, but without breaking things. 559 00:31:45,030 --> 00:31:48,570 Adam Curry: Well, that's a great twist on Facebook's motto, very 560 00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:54,780 good Gita. So stupid. All right, I want to move off of this. I 561 00:31:54,780 --> 00:31:57,420 want to move you into yours in some into some of your clips. 562 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,060 Because I see what you have here. I think it is the news of 563 00:32:00,060 --> 00:32:04,350 the day and we will have a different takes on this. I will 564 00:32:04,350 --> 00:32:09,570 start with a short clip of Nigel Farage interviewing presidential 565 00:32:09,570 --> 00:32:13,740 hopeful and former President Donald Trump about the drone war 566 00:32:13,770 --> 00:32:16,650 Unknown: and that person. I mean, today, they're saying 567 00:32:16,650 --> 00:32:19,410 there's been an attempted drone strike by the Ukrainians on the 568 00:32:19,410 --> 00:32:22,590 Kremlin. We don't yet know the full truth. Have you seen that 569 00:32:22,590 --> 00:32:25,020 story? I have not seen it yet. Okay. All right. Well, we know 570 00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:29,220 that that's the I mean, they're quite small drones. But the 571 00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:33,360 truth of it is, there's a growing I sense in America 572 00:32:33,870 --> 00:32:37,110 unhappiness about the money that's been given to Ukraine. 573 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,050 Why does nobody talk about peace and pleased negotiations? 574 00:32:40,050 --> 00:32:44,190 John C Dvorak: So if I were president, and I say this, I 575 00:32:44,190 --> 00:32:48,510 will end that war one day, it'll take 24 hours. I know Zielinski. 576 00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:54,390 Well. I know, Putin. Well, we get ended in a period of about 577 00:32:54,390 --> 00:32:57,660 100%. Don't ever say 578 00:33:02,670 --> 00:33:07,170 Adam Curry: even Trump is saying it 100% 100 Pro Han or pissant 579 00:33:07,740 --> 00:33:13,470 100%. I'm so disappointed that people do this. Okay. So let's 580 00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:15,060 talk about this drone. You got clips? 581 00:33:16,290 --> 00:33:19,110 John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is a clip from Al Jazeera. No, they 582 00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:25,860 have so so it's actually interesting report. You created 583 00:33:25,860 --> 00:33:29,220 a start and just go with it. I mean, I didn't. I intended just 584 00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:32,280 to play this first part, just first clip, which is you go to 585 00:33:32,430 --> 00:33:42,270 one. Clip one, Russia. Sorry. But, but as I kept playing that 586 00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:44,640 it's a long report and I kept playing it. Oh, I gotta clip 587 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,430 this. I gotta clip that. So it turns out to be pretty long. 588 00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:49,710 Let's go with this the setup. 589 00:33:49,890 --> 00:33:53,460 Unknown: Russia has threatened retaliation for what it says was 590 00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:57,150 an assassination attempt on President Vladimir Putin. The 591 00:33:57,150 --> 00:34:00,240 Kremlin says two drones were used in an attack on the 592 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,840 presidential residence in the early hours of Wednesday. It 593 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,410 claims Ukraine was behind it. But Kiva strongly denies the 594 00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:08,070 allegations. 595 00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:11,340 This is what the Kremlin says was an attempt on the life of 596 00:34:11,340 --> 00:34:16,560 Vladimir Putin. And all object is intercepted by air defenses. 597 00:34:17,130 --> 00:34:20,670 Russia says it was a drone, one of two that officials say were 598 00:34:20,670 --> 00:34:24,300 launched by Ukraine in an audacious attack aimed at the 599 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:28,380 Kremlin complex. Two unmanned aerial vehicles were aimed at 600 00:34:28,380 --> 00:34:31,590 the Kremlin and official statement reads as a result of 601 00:34:31,590 --> 00:34:34,680 timely actions taken by the military and special services 602 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,280 with the use of radar warfare systems, the devices were put 603 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,030 out of action. 604 00:34:40,350 --> 00:34:43,890 Adam Curry: I think there's a backdrop to this that there was 605 00:34:43,950 --> 00:34:48,960 a so called drone which looked like an oversize RC aircraft 606 00:34:49,470 --> 00:34:53,790 with apparently with a block of C four in it. That didn't quite 607 00:34:53,790 --> 00:34:57,420 make it to Moscow and crashed landed and there's photos of it 608 00:34:57,420 --> 00:34:59,670 and it's sort of like It's like one of those remote control 609 00:34:59,670 --> 00:35:03,720 planes. Is that you that you see at a demo demonstration day? 610 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,850 Yeah, this is not this is not a Reaper drone. No, 611 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,790 John C Dvorak: there's a dipshit, drones, dip shield 612 00:35:11,790 --> 00:35:12,810 Adam Curry: drones. Exactly. 613 00:35:14,070 --> 00:35:18,060 John C Dvorak: So, so then I sit down, that's the report. That's 614 00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:21,120 pretty much all we need. But then it goes on, they started to 615 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,140 do some analysis. And in this next clip, they have the blink 616 00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:30,420 and clip that I've been trying to find. Which is this, you 617 00:35:30,420 --> 00:35:36,120 know, spa, the world's worst analogy, and you'll hear it in 618 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,370 here. And then I will talk about it for a second because it's, 619 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:44,820 the guy doesn't seem to get the gist of this old analogy. LET'S 620 00:35:44,820 --> 00:35:46,110 PLAY CLIP two. 621 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,460 Unknown: So the Kremlin said that this is a wedge drone 622 00:35:50,460 --> 00:35:55,110 attack was a dry run in preparation for May the nine to 623 00:35:55,110 --> 00:35:59,220 add puts him will be vulnerable because his whereabouts unknown 624 00:35:59,220 --> 00:36:00,180 and events. 625 00:36:00,690 --> 00:36:03,990 It is a theory that not everyone is convinced about. 626 00:36:04,050 --> 00:36:08,940 I've seen the reports. I can't in any way validate them. We 627 00:36:08,940 --> 00:36:13,560 simply we simply don't know. Second, I would take anything 628 00:36:13,860 --> 00:36:17,790 coming out of the Kremlin with a very large shaker of salt. Okay, 629 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,480 what? A shaker of salt. 630 00:36:21,690 --> 00:36:24,750 John C Dvorak: So when I first heard about the shaker of salt 631 00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:28,290 comment, I was dig trying to dig it up. And it turned out luckily 632 00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:32,760 have showed up in Al Jazeera. This the analogy of course, as 633 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,940 you know, you've heard it, I'll take it with a grain of salt. I 634 00:36:35,970 --> 00:36:39,210 mean, it's meaningless because a grain of salt is nothing. It's a 635 00:36:39,210 --> 00:36:43,440 grain, so who cares? But a shaker of salt is not 636 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:49,140 meaningless. That's a lot of salt. Yes, it sure is. 637 00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:50,760 Adam Curry: So what is 638 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,580 John C Dvorak: he trying to say? Is this is actually saying that 639 00:36:53,580 --> 00:36:58,080 this is a big deal, because that's what his analogy implies. 640 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,890 Adam Curry: Well, I think what he's trying to say is, it's 641 00:37:01,890 --> 00:37:05,340 Russian disinformation. We all know the Kremlin lies, but he's 642 00:37:05,370 --> 00:37:05,790 no, that's 643 00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:08,370 John C Dvorak: what he's saying. He's saying that overtly. But to 644 00:37:08,370 --> 00:37:12,720 use the analogy of a grain of salt to a shaker of salt. Yeah, 645 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,040 he's an idiot. 646 00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:20,070 Adam Curry: Oh, I know. He got this from Chad GPT GPT 647 00:37:20,070 --> 00:37:27,360 suggestion. And, you know, I don't think it was Ukraine. I 648 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,390 don't think it was something that it was probably just some 649 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,220 some kid on the outskirts of Moscow. I mean, this this thing 650 00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:39,450 was nothing special. was ever to see for well, we don't know if 651 00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:42,690 this had C four on it. We don't know I thought you said the 652 00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:45,000 first one. No, the first one. The first one but that crashed 653 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,200 way short of but doesn't matter. It's this is all to me. It's all 654 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,610 distraction. Let's see. 655 00:37:51,509 --> 00:37:53,909 John C Dvorak: I I agree with your clip three. He's got to 656 00:37:53,909 --> 00:37:55,409 laugh in it. So let's go there. 657 00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:58,350 Unknown: On a visit to Finland. President Solinsky denied 658 00:37:58,350 --> 00:38:00,060 Ukraine's involvement. So 659 00:38:00,330 --> 00:38:09,660 we don't attack Putin or Moscow. Or we fight on on our territory. 660 00:38:09,930 --> 00:38:13,320 We're defending our religiousness. It is. We don't 661 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,830 have you know, enough weapon for this. 662 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,460 John C Dvorak: He's begging for money again. 663 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:23,580 Adam Curry: He got some I think. I think we gave him some more 664 00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:24,660 money on Wednesday. 665 00:38:24,810 --> 00:38:27,180 John C Dvorak: That's a slippery way of begging for my uh, you 666 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:30,480 know, we did nothing to do with it. But we can in fact, we can't 667 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,030 even afford it. We can't afford it if you give us a money maybe 668 00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:33,600 we do it dude. 669 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,210 Adam Curry: We could crowdfund that drone. I mean, this guy is 670 00:38:36,210 --> 00:38:39,810 unbelievable. wait and wait until you hear my clips you 671 00:38:39,810 --> 00:38:40,950 share it. Okay, so 672 00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:43,110 John C Dvorak: here we go with this that final clip on the 673 00:38:43,110 --> 00:38:44,370 drones the reaction 674 00:38:44,430 --> 00:38:47,820 Unknown: get even as air raid siren sounded in the Ukrainian 675 00:38:47,820 --> 00:38:51,630 capital. The mere possibility that Ukraine had struck a blow 676 00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:55,140 at the heart of Russian power was thrilling for some 677 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,980 of my classmates and I have been talking about this all day. It's 678 00:38:58,980 --> 00:39:02,010 very cool and very joyful. It's lifted my spirits. 679 00:39:02,850 --> 00:39:05,850 In its official statement, the Kremlin said it reserves the 680 00:39:05,850 --> 00:39:09,960 right to take retaliatory measures where and when it sees 681 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:10,380 fit. 682 00:39:11,009 --> 00:39:13,169 John C Dvorak: Now, of course, they would say so the Ukrainian 683 00:39:13,169 --> 00:39:16,109 students are all jacked up about this. Yeah. 684 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,530 Adam Curry: I mean, you really believe that this is just this 685 00:39:19,530 --> 00:39:20,940 is propaganda. This is 686 00:39:21,870 --> 00:39:24,210 John C Dvorak: I mean, to a point but they they were 687 00:39:24,210 --> 00:39:26,550 somebody that it wasn't like an actor 688 00:39:26,580 --> 00:39:30,540 Adam Curry: or the students in school. I thought that you know, 689 00:39:30,540 --> 00:39:34,920 the, the Russian Russia was attacking keep everyone's has to 690 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,740 hide because they're getting ready for the spring offensive. 691 00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,400 It's all propaganda. All the journalists are hooting and 692 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,600 hollering up in in Poland they're all drinkin hanging out 693 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,670 with the women of the night. 694 00:39:48,540 --> 00:39:50,160 Unknown: What's good is what you do. 695 00:39:51,810 --> 00:39:53,370 John C Dvorak: Women of the night 696 00:39:55,230 --> 00:40:00,960 Adam Curry: I don't know why I said night All right, so let's 697 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,340 get back. Let's get back to reality as, as we have to wind 698 00:40:05,340 --> 00:40:10,080 this war down. We have to wind this war down. We have an actual 699 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,310 war that we're not an actual war, but we have sales jobs. We 700 00:40:14,310 --> 00:40:18,720 have stuff to do over there in Philippines and Taiwan, China. 701 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:23,190 See, there's real money to be had people we've got this guy is 702 00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:28,500 he wants to tiddlywinks. Ms no sales in these drones? No, we're 703 00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:33,150 not. We got to wind this down. So how do we do it? Well, let's 704 00:40:33,150 --> 00:40:38,400 crank up the old narrative of we're going to apply prosecute 705 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,340 Putin, because not Russia, of course, we'd love the Russian 706 00:40:41,340 --> 00:40:45,150 people. It's all about Putin. So how do we do that? Well, we have 707 00:40:45,150 --> 00:40:48,330 to get them to the place where we have successfully prosecuted 708 00:40:48,330 --> 00:40:53,190 Putin before. And that is the Hague in the Netherlands. And 709 00:40:53,220 --> 00:40:58,380 nothing like doing a little ceremony on the eve of May 5, 710 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,940 actually was there may 4 with which is on the eve of May 5, 711 00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:08,940 may 5 is Liberation Day in the Netherlands a big deal. On 712 00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:13,800 something very impressive, the Dutch still do. And that is May 713 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:20,190 4 8pm. There is a moment of a minute of silence. And literally 714 00:41:20,190 --> 00:41:24,420 people stop their cars on the highway get out. And we'll just 715 00:41:24,450 --> 00:41:29,310 stand there and be silent for a minute to remember the fallen of 716 00:41:29,340 --> 00:41:33,990 World War Two. So of course, we've got to bring this Nazi in. 717 00:41:35,130 --> 00:41:38,250 Because the AES off brigade is literally naming streets after 718 00:41:38,250 --> 00:41:41,100 Nazi heroes and some of the Dutch are onto it. Now there's 719 00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:43,620 people writing about this and paper saying hey, why is this 720 00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:47,160 guy here on this day? But that would not be the message we get 721 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,300 from Mark Ritter. And that is the way you pronounce it. M five 722 00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:57,240 M Rita? Who is a unmarried, childless former HR manager at 723 00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:58,860 Unilever. Yes. 724 00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,080 John C Dvorak: How are they pronouncing it on the M five M? 725 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:08,070 Unknown: Root? root root root? Root? root root? Jimmy Dore does 726 00:42:08,070 --> 00:42:11,100 it. Dude, call one Dutch please call me 727 00:42:12,570 --> 00:42:16,800 Adam Curry: to tell you what anything you want. So Luca is an 728 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,760 unmarried, childless former HR manager Unilever, somehow he has 729 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,900 been the prime minister for I think 10 years now. Didn't know 730 00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:27,840 maybe you'd want this is his fourth cabinet. Keep, just keep 731 00:42:27,870 --> 00:42:32,700 keep keep him in there. And he welcomes valora Mia, to the 732 00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:39,660 Hegge floor. It has been 434 days since you spoke a few 733 00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:42,870 simple words that resonated all over the world. 734 00:42:44,220 --> 00:42:46,530 Unknown: And I see what you were saying then. 735 00:42:47,970 --> 00:42:50,550 Adam Curry: Sorry, I got a bus, the Dutch guy. And I instead of 736 00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:54,090 it's called, quote, I'll be quoting you, Rita, I'll quote 737 00:42:54,090 --> 00:42:58,620 you instead of I will say what you were saying then. And I see 738 00:42:58,620 --> 00:43:02,070 what you're saying then. We are all here defending our 739 00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:07,470 independence, our country. And it will stay this way. This what 740 00:43:07,470 --> 00:43:14,490 you said. And it's those are riveting words. You Oh, my gosh, 741 00:43:14,610 --> 00:43:16,980 I'm so glad we're all in front of the Ukraine fly 742 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,110 John C Dvorak: to hear the regular Winston Churchill, that 743 00:43:19,110 --> 00:43:20,820 guy. We are all here 744 00:43:20,850 --> 00:43:24,930 Adam Curry: defending our independence, our country. And 745 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,700 it will stay this way. This what you said. And it will be an 746 00:43:29,730 --> 00:43:34,260 understatement to say that you've have to work to resolve 747 00:43:34,260 --> 00:43:38,940 and courage of the brave soldiers and citizens Ukraine is 748 00:43:38,970 --> 00:43:43,770 without precedent in our lifetime. Wow. without precedent 749 00:43:43,770 --> 00:43:47,370 in our lifetime. There's a lot of people who are still around a 750 00:43:47,370 --> 00:43:49,950 world war two dude who you're about to celebrate. And I would 751 00:43:49,950 --> 00:43:53,310 say, you know, there's some differences in World War Two and 752 00:43:53,310 --> 00:43:57,240 what you're seeing in Ukraine, but okay. And yourself has 753 00:43:57,240 --> 00:44:01,950 become a symbol or for the country and country or country. 754 00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:06,930 I like the country nice country has become a symbol or for the 755 00:44:06,930 --> 00:44:11,460 country, and its people can do when they're fighting for the 756 00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:16,320 existence, their freedom, and your future. And we all admire 757 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,460 you for that. Yes, we by the way, everyone's in a suit. Now 758 00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:25,380 it's a nice reception. And he's he's got his that. His 759 00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:30,360 trademark. What does that drab olive drab with a little logo in 760 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,170 the middle which is now his whole that's his costume. You 761 00:44:34,170 --> 00:44:34,650 know, that little 762 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,320 John C Dvorak: little Yang costume is so tight fitting t 763 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,580 shirt with sleeves. 764 00:44:38,580 --> 00:44:41,340 Adam Curry: He's got he's got he's got his costume. I like 765 00:44:41,340 --> 00:44:44,550 Star Trek costume. All right. Now let's get into the meat of 766 00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:47,880 what we're really doing here. When I had to, by the way, I 767 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,640 think that this was organized by the State Department the whole 768 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,240 thing from beginning to end, and I think I can prove it. Our 769 00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:58,140 State Department when I had the privilege to address the members 770 00:44:58,260 --> 00:45:03,090 of the Rabbah almost a year ago As I said, we will stay with you 771 00:45:03,690 --> 00:45:05,100 every inch of the way. 772 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,630 Unknown: As far as I'm aware, 773 00:45:11,010 --> 00:45:14,100 Adam Curry: Ukraine, the Netherlands most of the EU most 774 00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:19,080 of the world uses the metric system. Why would you say every 775 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,630 inch of the way unless it was written by the US State 776 00:45:21,630 --> 00:45:27,930 Department? Winner 777 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,220 Unknown: seriously, 778 00:45:32,850 --> 00:45:36,060 John C Dvorak: this could have been written by chat GPT Yeah, 779 00:45:36,060 --> 00:45:39,720 Adam Curry: you gotta go. I said, we will stay with you 780 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,520 every inch of the way. And let me assure you Volodymyr depths, 781 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,350 we are determined to keep our word now let's get to the meat 782 00:45:49,350 --> 00:45:51,390 of the problem here. What do we got to end this war man? What 783 00:45:51,390 --> 00:45:56,280 are we gonna do? Because this is an unjust war against everything 784 00:45:56,310 --> 00:45:59,730 we stand for. Now. This is also American State Department 785 00:45:59,730 --> 00:46:04,620 talking points and unjust war. Since when is war just is it 786 00:46:04,620 --> 00:46:09,060 ever really just I mean, maybe I'm, 787 00:46:09,150 --> 00:46:11,850 John C Dvorak: I think you're onto something here. This is an 788 00:46:11,850 --> 00:46:16,470 interesting situation. It's quite likely that the State 789 00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:21,330 Department put this together. Not only that, but as corny. Oh, 790 00:46:21,330 --> 00:46:23,100 which is classic Blinken. 791 00:46:24,450 --> 00:46:28,050 Adam Curry: The whole shaker inch by inch. Exactly. 792 00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:30,810 John C Dvorak: Step by step slowly, I turned 793 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,090 Adam Curry: is an inch by inch. Isn't that the Robert De Niro 794 00:46:33,090 --> 00:46:35,010 speech in that football movie? 795 00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:38,550 John C Dvorak: inch by inch really comes from the Three 796 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:40,380 Stooges, I think are one of these. 797 00:46:41,580 --> 00:46:44,310 Adam Curry: All right, it's not a just war, not a just war. It's 798 00:46:44,310 --> 00:46:50,010 not fair. Because this is an unjust war against everything we 799 00:46:50,010 --> 00:46:55,050 stand for. This was war against freedom, democracy, and rule of 800 00:46:55,050 --> 00:46:58,350 law in our parts of the world rule of law. Yeah, it's actually 801 00:46:58,380 --> 00:47:02,730 as we know, it's a rule. It's a war of aggression. Aggression. 802 00:47:03,060 --> 00:47:04,020 That's right, we stand 803 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,320 John C Dvorak: by away rule, that rule of law, meme, blah, 804 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,190 blah, blah, is very American rule of law, of course, 805 00:47:11,220 --> 00:47:14,640 Adam Curry: course democracy, and rule of law in our parts of 806 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,750 the rules. That's why we stand with Ukrainian people that had 807 00:47:18,750 --> 00:47:23,370 the bastion of democracy, which is Ukraine. And right, you can 808 00:47:23,370 --> 00:47:28,710 count on our unwavering support unwavering. Russia cannot read 809 00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:32,160 this word and must be held accountable. All the crimes of 810 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,270 aggression, and the injustice. There it is the crimes of 811 00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:41,580 aggression that we do, we have to look at these euphemisms, the 812 00:47:41,580 --> 00:47:47,340 crime of aggression. So if I'm aggressive, that's a crime. If 813 00:47:47,340 --> 00:47:50,880 I'm aggressive in my speaking patterns, if I'm aggressive on 814 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,360 the playing field, if I'm aggressive in my academic 815 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,140 studies, that is a crime. That literally calling the crime of 816 00:47:58,140 --> 00:47:59,580 aggression helped me John. 817 00:48:00,750 --> 00:48:01,950 John C Dvorak: No, no, you're on a roll. 818 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,610 Adam Curry: Russia cannot read this word. And it must be held 819 00:48:05,610 --> 00:48:10,260 accountable for all the crimes of aggression, and the injustice 820 00:48:10,410 --> 00:48:14,040 that this inflicting on the people of Ukraine, day after day 821 00:48:14,310 --> 00:48:19,350 in this horrific world. So what better place to meet Dan here in 822 00:48:19,350 --> 00:48:26,910 The Hague, to vehicle capital of the world? In case you didn't 823 00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:30,450 know, The Hague is the legal capital of the world. 824 00:48:32,460 --> 00:48:34,020 John C Dvorak: And that we're miniature world is 825 00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:38,940 Adam Curry: Maduro, dumb, whatever. It's called in Maduro. 826 00:48:38,940 --> 00:48:41,730 Dom Yeah, it's it's actually close. It's I think it's between 827 00:48:41,730 --> 00:48:44,880 the Hague and Rotterdam miniature world miniature world. 828 00:48:45,870 --> 00:48:48,360 So it's it's quite cute Maduro Dom 829 00:48:48,450 --> 00:48:50,190 John C Dvorak: Oh, it's dynamite. I would recommend 830 00:48:50,220 --> 00:48:54,180 every anyone who has a chance to visit this little operation to 831 00:48:54,180 --> 00:49:03,630 do do little to go do it. I've fastened it anyway. I'm with you 832 00:49:03,630 --> 00:49:06,990 on everything so far, but I've got my conclusion is different 833 00:49:06,990 --> 00:49:07,620 than yours. 834 00:49:08,070 --> 00:49:10,560 Adam Curry: By the way the Maduro dam is in The Hague. I'm 835 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,590 sorry. It's not between Hague and Rotterdam, thanks to NPC. 836 00:49:13,740 --> 00:49:14,910 Alright, what's your conclusion? 837 00:49:16,290 --> 00:49:19,410 John C Dvorak: We're going to we're gearing up to actually do 838 00:49:19,410 --> 00:49:22,590 an invasion. boots on the ground American soldiers. 839 00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:26,160 Adam Curry: No, absolutely not. We're gearing up to end the war. 840 00:49:26,490 --> 00:49:29,130 And we're doing it with all these fluffy we're and the way 841 00:49:29,130 --> 00:49:34,170 we do it is we come up with we come up with a way to take the 842 00:49:34,170 --> 00:49:38,010 money that we confiscated, illegal way back for the crimes 843 00:49:38,010 --> 00:49:44,310 of aggression. Then we prosecute Putin in the capital of the 844 00:49:44,310 --> 00:49:48,390 legal capital of the world, just like we did before. So what 845 00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:52,350 better place to meet than here in The Hague, the legal capital 846 00:49:52,380 --> 00:49:57,960 of the world ever since the downing of Flight MH 17 in the 847 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,020 Netherlands have known that Justice doesn't come 848 00:50:01,050 --> 00:50:04,680 automatically. And this was mh 17, the Malaysian flight which 849 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:04,800 they 850 00:50:05,189 --> 00:50:08,279 John C Dvorak: rigged, the rigged report never been 851 00:50:08,279 --> 00:50:12,269 released. The box has never been released as phony the same. 852 00:50:13,259 --> 00:50:16,379 They're just making the Hague look like a phony baloney 853 00:50:16,379 --> 00:50:18,209 operation when he brings that in. 854 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,029 Adam Curry: And they brought in Bellingcat. The same the same 855 00:50:22,229 --> 00:50:26,459 intelligence operation who had all the proof of the boot rocket 856 00:50:26,459 --> 00:50:30,119 being shot from Russia. No, he was Ukraine. We I mean, man, we 857 00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:33,569 did so much on it. We had so much coverage of that. So he's 858 00:50:33,569 --> 00:50:37,019 pulling these two together. And of course, that's just over now. 859 00:50:37,019 --> 00:50:39,629 Oh, no, no, we already know that doesn't come easily. But but you 860 00:50:39,629 --> 00:50:43,229 know, it we all know it's as good as it's as good as we 861 00:50:43,229 --> 00:50:48,029 basically have him hanging Putin for MH 17 And we'll hang him for 862 00:50:48,029 --> 00:50:51,479 this too, so that everybody can take the money final payout. 863 00:50:51,479 --> 00:50:56,009 Everybody gets their cash. That's what's going on. I make 864 00:50:56,009 --> 00:51:00,449 some tea. We in the Netherlands have known that justice doesn't 865 00:51:00,449 --> 00:51:03,779 come automatically. You have to have staying power. 866 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,190 John C Dvorak: Setting power. That means you need to buy 867 00:51:08,190 --> 00:51:09,690 deodorant commercially the 868 00:51:09,690 --> 00:51:12,300 Adam Curry: Viagra of law I don't I don't know what kind of 869 00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:15,600 state and power you need. But that's weird. Let's have known 870 00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:19,380 you know the State Department. Hey, hey, I know I was putting 871 00:51:19,380 --> 00:51:21,870 some funny was putting the staying power just see if anyone 872 00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:25,320 catches it make make that Rick root guy say that make him say 873 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,080 that. Okay, that's cool. Did justice doesn't come 874 00:51:28,110 --> 00:51:32,700 automatically. You have to have staying power. The Netherlands 875 00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:36,390 will do everything it can to ensure that justice is done for 876 00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:40,680 Ukraine, however long it takes. And however difficult it may be. 877 00:51:41,340 --> 00:51:45,660 It's the term is whatever it takes. But okay. Flow to me, I 878 00:51:45,660 --> 00:51:48,210 should know your fish to the Netherlands couldn't have come 879 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:52,560 at the more symbolic moment. Every year. On the fourth of May 880 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,160 we remember the Dutch victims of the Second World War, and all 881 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,370 the soldiers who have given their life since then, for peace 882 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,140 and freedom worldwide. Tomorrow on the fifth of May Liberation 883 00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:08,250 Day, we are fortunate that we can celebrate that we have been 884 00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:12,360 a free country since 1945. And a lot of Dutch are pissed about 885 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,660 this. Like what is that guy doing here? This is a this is 886 00:52:15,660 --> 00:52:20,070 our war remembrance. For our people. The country was 887 00:52:20,070 --> 00:52:23,850 flattened. people ate sugar beets. They ate nettle soup with 888 00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:29,160 rocks. So now Now, I'm not liking that. So Zelinsky then 889 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:34,200 goes to the International Criminal Court and does a little 890 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,320 bit and I'm not going to tell you what the backdrop. All these 891 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,440 things have a backdrop with their slogan. And it was a 892 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,050 printed slogan, which I'm not going to tell you just yet, 893 00:52:43,260 --> 00:52:46,920 because the term is used in this report from France 24. Luckily, 894 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,670 we don't have to listen to him talking. We have the F 24. Lady 895 00:52:50,760 --> 00:53:00,000 to tell us kind of exactly what Volodymyr said in this. In this 896 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,430 speech at the International Criminal Court. 897 00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:08,250 Unknown: He also talked about the importance of justice that 898 00:53:08,250 --> 00:53:10,020 there can be no peace without justice. 899 00:53:11,940 --> 00:53:15,120 Adam Curry: Literally on the background and said no peace for 900 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,880 Ukraine without justice. Does that sound familiar? 901 00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:21,660 John C Dvorak: That's one of our one of our lefty slogans from 902 00:53:21,660 --> 00:53:22,500 the United States. 903 00:53:22,530 --> 00:53:25,260 Adam Curry: No, George Floyd, No justice, no peace. Yeah, 904 00:53:25,290 --> 00:53:27,750 John C Dvorak: there's a George Floyd. Yep. So we made it. But 905 00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:30,240 it's been around forever, that it's always the same thing. 906 00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:32,820 Adam Curry: But but now they've just turned it around and said, 907 00:53:33,060 --> 00:53:37,740 there will be no peace for Ukraine without justice. So what 908 00:53:37,740 --> 00:53:41,460 they're saying is in the way I see it, is we will call peace 909 00:53:41,490 --> 00:53:44,880 after we have justice. What is justice, that means we convict 910 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,910 Putin, we don't have to throw him in jail. We have just like 911 00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:52,050 mh 17 We convict him. We take the money that we confiscated, 912 00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:53,310 and then we make peace. 913 00:53:53,340 --> 00:53:59,100 Unknown: He also talked about the importance of justice, that 914 00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:02,220 there can be no peace without justice, because unless issues 915 00:54:02,250 --> 00:54:05,970 are fully properly resolved, they simply erupt again later 916 00:54:05,970 --> 00:54:10,050 on. For him, it is vital that Vladimir Putin is held to 917 00:54:10,050 --> 00:54:14,250 account at this court, he made no bones about that. And he also 918 00:54:14,250 --> 00:54:19,890 said that that should be stipulated in any negotiated 919 00:54:19,890 --> 00:54:23,820 peace agreement that there must be no repetition of aggression, 920 00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:27,240 Adam Curry: repetition of aggression, all that horrible 921 00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:28,650 crime, again, by Russia, 922 00:54:28,770 --> 00:54:33,570 Unknown: towards Ukraine. So he is very clearly setting out his 923 00:54:33,570 --> 00:54:37,380 points. It is true that Ukraine might not get all at once and 924 00:54:37,830 --> 00:54:42,480 there is a lot of discussion about when this war might end, 925 00:54:42,750 --> 00:54:47,580 and what might constitute some sort of acceptable settlement to 926 00:54:47,580 --> 00:54:51,660 Ukraine. So it's about the money and there are murmurings that 927 00:54:51,660 --> 00:54:58,500 perhaps Ukraine should settle for the 2014 borders and forget 928 00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:02,790 about Crimea. He is saying No way, we want Crimea back. We 929 00:55:02,790 --> 00:55:07,110 want our territory. And we want our values, which are universal 930 00:55:07,110 --> 00:55:08,400 values respected. 931 00:55:12,660 --> 00:55:15,390 Adam Curry: So that's new. He's not gonna get he's not gonna get 932 00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:19,050 Crimea. He's just he just using that as a chip. We need 933 00:55:19,050 --> 00:55:23,880 universal values back to the back to the 94. What did you 934 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,290 say? 9094? Let 935 00:55:25,290 --> 00:55:28,020 John C Dvorak: me say they had a date I forget what it was just 936 00:55:28,020 --> 00:55:28,380 check it. 937 00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:32,610 Unknown: Was it this one? Hey, oh, I have to rewind. There we 938 00:55:32,610 --> 00:55:32,910 go. 939 00:55:33,359 --> 00:55:38,219 Let's forget about Crimea. He is saying No way. Was it here for 940 00:55:38,579 --> 00:55:42,059 the 2014 borders 941 00:55:42,060 --> 00:55:45,690 Adam Curry: 2014 borders, okay, which is, which is kind of what 942 00:55:45,690 --> 00:55:50,970 Putin wants. So we get to 2014 borders back to which is the 943 00:55:50,970 --> 00:55:54,870 Donbass region, which may be just a demilitarized zone. And 944 00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:57,900 then you get your money, which is kind of ABS it's probably 945 00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:01,860 already been stolen by now. So everyone already hadn't. Lansky 946 00:56:01,860 --> 00:56:05,190 has billions and offshore bank accounts. This is coming to an 947 00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:08,640 end. So I do not think there's boots on the ground coming. And 948 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,990 the reason for that is this next report, which is obvious what 949 00:56:12,990 --> 00:56:15,870 what everyone's looking at because what do we have we have 950 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:22,080 a dinky toy dipshit drone flying over the Kremlin. Volodymyr 951 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,140 saying we don't have we don't have we don't have this 952 00:56:25,140 --> 00:56:28,650 capability. Now because it's all over here, bro. 953 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,890 Unknown: Well, the Taiwan US Defense Industry Forum was an 954 00:56:31,890 --> 00:56:35,520 event where people gathered mainly to discuss how to buy and 955 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,880 sell more weapons. It lasted around three hours it took place 956 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,060 with a convention center in Taipei and representatives of 957 00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:46,500 around 25 US defense contractors reportedly attended and days 958 00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:49,110 before here in Beijing, the spokesman of China's defense 959 00:56:49,110 --> 00:56:52,170 ministry said that he was quote unquote, extremely concerned 960 00:56:52,170 --> 00:56:56,190 about the forum he criticized the US as military industrial 961 00:56:56,190 --> 00:57:00,510 complex and accused Taiwan's ruling DPP of inviting wolves 962 00:57:00,510 --> 00:57:03,870 into their home. There's also been a few editorials that were 963 00:57:03,870 --> 00:57:08,340 published in Chinese state media criticizing the event last week 964 00:57:08,370 --> 00:57:11,850 in the past few days. So we haven't seen much new this 965 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,970 Wednesday morning, though we have recorded an uptick in 966 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,200 Chinese military activity in around the Taiwan Strait. And it 967 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,980 is a little bit too early to save this has a direct link to 968 00:57:23,010 --> 00:57:26,040 that event or not. What I can say though, is that the forum 969 00:57:26,250 --> 00:57:28,770 isn't really much of a big deal. If you look at the bigger 970 00:57:28,980 --> 00:57:32,760 picture, the US has already sold 10s of billions of dollars worth 971 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:37,620 of weapons to Taipei since 1979. And earlier this year, 972 00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:41,190 Washington approved the sale of $619 million worth of weapons, 973 00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:45,780 including F 16. fighter jet to Taipei, that was the biggest 974 00:57:45,780 --> 00:57:49,680 sale of 2023. So far. So these activities aren't going to stop 975 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,970 anytime soon. These deals do do come though, as Beijing has been 976 00:57:54,180 --> 00:57:58,200 ramping up pressure military and political pressure on the self 977 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,660 Rhode Island in recent years. 978 00:58:00,810 --> 00:58:04,860 Adam Curry: So we'll do whatever it takes for Ukraine. But the f6 979 00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:10,560 teams that go into Taiwan biggest sale of the year. This 980 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,650 is it. This is the Bonanza they don't give a crap about Ukraine. 981 00:58:14,340 --> 00:58:16,590 John C Dvorak: We're putting boots on the ground. That's why 982 00:58:16,590 --> 00:58:17,700 Susan Rice quick. 983 00:58:18,180 --> 00:58:21,750 Adam Curry: She's She's running mic Obama's campaign, bro. 984 00:58:22,140 --> 00:58:24,720 John C Dvorak: Whatever it takes is a term that keeps coming up. 985 00:58:25,170 --> 00:58:29,190 And the only way Biden is going to stand off as he thinks is if 986 00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:32,550 he gets foot feet on the ground, because that's the way you 987 00:58:32,550 --> 00:58:34,860 always Americans always think, well, you know, you're in a 988 00:58:34,860 --> 00:58:38,250 conflict. We can't abandon our president now. 989 00:58:38,460 --> 00:58:42,090 Adam Curry: Yes, I read the newsletter. And that is that is 990 00:58:42,660 --> 00:58:46,110 sent in edit. No, I'm sorry. I was out doing important things. 991 00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:50,610 There was nothing to edit, do you? It was fine. I didn't see 992 00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:54,660 any mistakes. But I'm sorry. You're right. I got distracted. 993 00:58:54,660 --> 00:59:00,990 And that was it. I was prepping for the show. That is a that is 994 00:59:00,990 --> 00:59:03,960 certainly a playbook American presidents have used but he is 995 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,020 being taken down. He's been being taken down by the Democrat 996 00:59:07,020 --> 00:59:10,890 Party. He's a marked man. There's no way and they're just 997 00:59:11,460 --> 00:59:17,220 enlisting the Republicans now. I didn't know what is wrong with 998 00:59:17,220 --> 00:59:19,260 this weather with what's wrong with this clip. Now, why won't 999 00:59:19,260 --> 00:59:20,400 this play? Let me say 1000 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,030 John C Dvorak: I want to mention something I did get a note from 1001 00:59:24,030 --> 00:59:27,450 one of our producers who's in the army who said that he's over 1002 00:59:27,450 --> 00:59:31,650 there. And he says the reporting about soldiers in Ukraine 1003 00:59:31,650 --> 00:59:36,990 already is not being handled at all by the mainstream media. And 1004 00:59:37,020 --> 00:59:38,550 I'm telling you, something's up. 1005 00:59:39,870 --> 00:59:43,020 Unknown: Hold on a second. I have it here. Oh, this is really 1006 00:59:43,020 --> 00:59:48,780 weird. This clip, it's got this whole Grassley thing. I wonder 1007 00:59:48,780 --> 00:59:51,420 what's gonna happen to this clip. You've heard about this. 1008 00:59:52,290 --> 00:59:55,740 The the here we got to see if I play it this way. Maybe this 1009 00:59:55,740 --> 00:59:56,610 will work. Let me say 1010 00:59:59,730 --> 01:00:01,620 Adam Curry: that Yeah, listen to this. Listen, I don't know why 1011 01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:03,660 it's not playing my regular system. Here we go. Senator. I 1012 01:00:03,660 --> 01:00:06,960 Unknown: know you've also just issued a statement on you, as 1013 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:12,060 well as your colleague James Comer demanding the FBI record 1014 01:00:12,060 --> 01:00:16,050 on alleging criminal, this criminal scheme involving then 1015 01:00:16,050 --> 01:00:20,070 Vice President Biden, this congressional subpoena, you say 1016 01:00:20,070 --> 01:00:24,360 seeks a specific FBI document. Senator, thank you for jumping 1017 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:25,050 on with us. What 1018 01:00:25,050 --> 01:00:29,520 can you tell us? Well, I will only add to what you say that 1019 01:00:29,550 --> 01:00:35,040 this comes from credible and on classified whistleblower 1020 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,750 disclosures, this possible criminal activity when Biden was 1021 01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:44,940 vice president. And we're, we want this information. And 1022 01:00:44,940 --> 01:00:49,860 there's a subpoena going to be areas issued now. And it really 1023 01:00:49,890 --> 01:00:54,510 boils down to my traditional oversight of government. 1024 01:00:55,680 --> 01:01:00,120 Particularly see the executive branch's doing the work that 1025 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,020 they're supposed to be doing. So the Justice Department, the FBI 1026 01:01:04,020 --> 01:01:07,620 needs to come clean to the American people what they did 1027 01:01:07,890 --> 01:01:11,850 with the document, because we know the document exists from 1028 01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:19,080 very credible whistleblower information that we got. We can 1029 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,620 we really need to know what steps did the Justice Department 1030 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:28,590 and FBI take to investigate? And to vet the document to determine 1031 01:01:28,590 --> 01:01:33,000 if it's accurate or not? And did the Justice Department the FBI 1032 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,410 follow normal investigative procedures? Or did they let 1033 01:01:37,410 --> 01:01:39,510 political calculations interfere? 1034 01:01:40,140 --> 01:01:43,290 Adam Curry: So it's a double whammy? Which is of course what 1035 01:01:43,290 --> 01:01:47,460 Obama does Obama is run by the CIA. So we blame the FBI and we 1036 01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:50,910 get Biden out for an actual crime, not something his kid 1037 01:01:50,910 --> 01:01:56,160 did. No for an actual crime on US soil. This is a setup and you 1038 01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:00,120 called it you call that you call the takedown of Biden. Now you 1039 01:02:00,150 --> 01:02:00,990 know, your was 1040 01:02:00,990 --> 01:02:02,910 John C Dvorak: fighting back and he's going to fight back by 1041 01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:07,170 sending troops to Ukraine. That's the way he's gonna fight 1042 01:02:07,170 --> 01:02:10,080 back. While he knows what's what's going on. 1043 01:02:10,830 --> 01:02:15,600 Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah, okay. Well, but the military 1044 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,180 industrial complex, they don't want 1045 01:02:18,180 --> 01:02:20,970 John C Dvorak: it. They're just, they're just looking at their 1046 01:02:20,970 --> 01:02:21,960 bank accounts. 1047 01:02:22,170 --> 01:02:24,330 Adam Curry: They're all in Taiwan with the ladies of the 1048 01:02:24,330 --> 01:02:24,540 night. 1049 01:02:24,570 --> 01:02:27,240 John C Dvorak: Well, that's more money. It's just more money. And 1050 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,030 the 60s, you know, who gives a shit those things? You got to 1051 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,520 face those things out and started selling the expensive F 1052 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:33,450 30? Fives. 1053 01:02:35,340 --> 01:02:37,560 Adam Curry: The dog the dog that don't fly. 1054 01:02:38,850 --> 01:02:40,260 Unknown: Flies, tell me what. 1055 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,560 Adam Curry: Meanwhile, while all this is going down in 2023 It's 1056 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,490 unbelievable. But there's still a whole country that will stop 1057 01:02:50,490 --> 01:02:54,960 dead in its tracks to watch an old dude with an old bag getting 1058 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,700 a golden golden coach and be turned into the king. 1059 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,250 Unknown: Anti monarchy protesters in the UK are under 1060 01:03:02,250 --> 01:03:05,250 close watch. Ahead of the coronation. The British Home 1061 01:03:05,250 --> 01:03:08,190 Office has issued a warning letter saying planned peaceful 1062 01:03:08,190 --> 01:03:11,100 protests on coronation day will be firmly blocked. 1063 01:03:11,130 --> 01:03:14,220 Adam Curry: I love planned peaceful protests. In the US 1064 01:03:14,220 --> 01:03:17,010 Those are cool even during COVID. There they will be 1065 01:03:17,010 --> 01:03:17,610 blocked 1066 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,760 Unknown: strong measures are in place to prevent any disruptive 1067 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,360 activity. A new law will enable 12 months imprisonment for 1068 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,170 protesters blocking roads, airports and railways unless it 1069 01:03:28,170 --> 01:03:31,170 from the home offices police powers unit says the law has 1070 01:03:31,170 --> 01:03:34,020 been brought to prevent disruption at major sporting and 1071 01:03:34,020 --> 01:03:38,370 cultural events blocking process of the king of the climate 1072 01:03:38,370 --> 01:03:42,330 activists have unleashed the law also lays down six months in 1073 01:03:42,330 --> 01:03:46,530 jail and a fine for protesters locking onto other objects 1074 01:03:46,590 --> 01:03:48,960 including buildings like mark of protest. 1075 01:03:49,530 --> 01:03:50,490 This is great. 1076 01:03:51,570 --> 01:03:53,370 John C Dvorak: You can name it activists. 1077 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,950 Adam Curry: Oh yeah, the climate activist even though he's the 1078 01:03:55,950 --> 01:03:57,270 climate guy is like 1079 01:03:57,270 --> 01:04:00,480 John C Dvorak: a climate nut ball. These are they should be 1080 01:04:00,780 --> 01:04:03,450 pleased as punch that this guy's getting in 1081 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,610 Adam Curry: now, but that's because they're they're bold. 1082 01:04:05,610 --> 01:04:10,380 They're bold. They're both by the way the members of the 1083 01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:14,010 public had been invited to swear their allegiance to the king. 1084 01:04:14,970 --> 01:04:20,310 They have people around the UK and abroad who will be invited 1085 01:04:20,310 --> 01:04:24,090 to say the words I swear I will pay true allegiance to Your 1086 01:04:24,090 --> 01:04:28,140 Majesty and Your heirs and successors according to the law. 1087 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,080 So help me God says 1088 01:04:31,980 --> 01:04:34,920 Unknown: onto other objects including buildings as a mark of 1089 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:39,180 protest right police powers to stop and search protesters if 1090 01:04:39,180 --> 01:04:42,840 they suspect they're planning to cause chaos anti monarchy group 1091 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,290 Republic described the letter as very odd. The group has been 1092 01:04:46,290 --> 01:04:49,950 planning protests on coronation day, their boundaries to read 1093 01:04:50,130 --> 01:04:54,090 knots making reports say are the units like Climate Group 1094 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,830 extinction rebellion have been sent similar lunches. Many 1095 01:04:58,830 --> 01:05:01,740 groups have his house what they called certain action by the 1096 01:05:01,740 --> 01:05:05,220 home office. They call this a restriction of freedom of speech 1097 01:05:05,250 --> 01:05:08,430 and right to a peaceful and legitimate protest. 1098 01:05:08,460 --> 01:05:12,540 Adam Curry: Well, of course the UK is is a speech free zone, 1099 01:05:12,540 --> 01:05:15,840 man. As in you can't use any. 1100 01:05:16,439 --> 01:05:19,319 John C Dvorak: Yeah and go to the corner Speaker's Corner if 1101 01:05:19,319 --> 01:05:19,499 you 1102 01:05:19,769 --> 01:05:21,869 Adam Curry: remember I went there on Tina, I were in the UK, 1103 01:05:21,869 --> 01:05:23,009 it was nobody there. 1104 01:05:23,489 --> 01:05:25,829 John C Dvorak: I've been there a number of times I stay at a 1105 01:05:25,829 --> 01:05:28,229 place that's nearby. When I'm in London. We 1106 01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:31,590 Adam Curry: were there more recent than us. Probably. Yeah. 1107 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:31,800 There's 1108 01:05:32,219 --> 01:05:34,289 John C Dvorak: been anybody there. I first time I was in 1109 01:05:34,289 --> 01:05:37,619 there. And Alana was in 1973. There was nobody there. I 1110 01:05:37,620 --> 01:05:44,670 Adam Curry: was there in 19. See, I was 15. So that makes me 1111 01:05:44,970 --> 01:05:50,160 76. My dad took me and we went to Speaker's Corner. I was very 1112 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,730 impressed. And there was no a one or two guys standing on the 1113 01:05:53,730 --> 01:05:54,990 corner there talking to us. 1114 01:05:55,169 --> 01:05:56,519 John C Dvorak: Socialist. Yeah. 1115 01:05:58,230 --> 01:06:00,540 Adam Curry: But yeah, you can't say anything on social media. 1116 01:06:00,570 --> 01:06:04,560 You can't do anything there anything. And now he's like, Oh, 1117 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,250 you want a peaceful protest? No, no, six months in jail. No. 1118 01:06:09,210 --> 01:06:11,790 Peaceful protest. No, no peaceful protest for 1119 01:06:11,790 --> 01:06:13,890 John C Dvorak: Yeah, happy. Now if we're going to talk about 1120 01:06:13,890 --> 01:06:17,190 this topic, and I want to mention here that I've been 1121 01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:21,390 listening to some more podcasts than usual. Yeah, they spend 1122 01:06:21,420 --> 01:06:27,810 hours on one topic. The Royals were on no any one topic. Yeah. 1123 01:06:28,980 --> 01:06:32,310 We've already on our fourth topic here. Yeah. So let's go to 1124 01:06:33,150 --> 01:06:38,670 so now I've got NPR is decided to become the frontman row and 1125 01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:42,000 and promoter of Camilla 1126 01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:45,420 Unknown: really, really the HorseFace 1127 01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:49,590 John C Dvorak: Do you want a listen to a report that is so 1128 01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:55,740 disgusting. It's like a hagiography just over the air of 1129 01:06:55,740 --> 01:07:00,120 Camilla and the whole setup the whole thing? It's, it's to me 1130 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,170 it's remarkable. It's I 1131 01:07:01,170 --> 01:07:03,750 Adam Curry: think, yes, I do, of course. And it feels to me like 1132 01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:08,430 this is very wrong. Certainly the NPR listening audience. I 1133 01:07:08,430 --> 01:07:12,810 believe that they were that the NPR audience is Lady die Fans. 1134 01:07:13,140 --> 01:07:18,030 And if you're a Lady Diana fan, which I would say I was a fan. I 1135 01:07:18,030 --> 01:07:22,440 mean, she I disagree with the whole story. You know, boohoo 1136 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,340 poor poor princess now now she was a she was a media whore. And 1137 01:07:26,340 --> 01:07:30,060 she liked it. And that eventually got her killed. But 1138 01:07:30,990 --> 01:07:34,680 you know how she was treated versus Camilla. Camilla is just 1139 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,980 she is Beelzebub compared to Lady die. 1140 01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:40,410 John C Dvorak: Well, we're gonna hear the update on this because 1141 01:07:40,410 --> 01:07:45,870 we have one of the key experts in pushing boo boos narratives 1142 01:07:45,870 --> 01:07:49,320 coming on. But let's go with Camilla one NPR 1143 01:07:49,410 --> 01:07:52,050 Unknown: over the past several decades. The one time Camilla 1144 01:07:52,050 --> 01:07:54,510 Parker Bowles has been known as many things. 1145 01:07:55,170 --> 01:07:57,060 Adam Curry: By the way, I think we should all go by our full 1146 01:07:57,060 --> 01:08:00,450 middle names Adam Clark curry and John Charles Dvorak and 1147 01:08:00,450 --> 01:08:01,830 Camilla Parker Bowles 1148 01:08:01,980 --> 01:08:05,580 Unknown: of the rakish Brigadier Andrew Parker Bowles, girlfriend 1149 01:08:05,610 --> 01:08:09,600 of the heir to the throne. But most of all the other woman in 1150 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,900 what turned out to be the not so fairytale marriage of Charles 1151 01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:16,200 and Diana. And this Saturday, she will officially have a new 1152 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:21,090 title Queen Tina Brown wrote the palace papers inside the House 1153 01:08:21,090 --> 01:08:23,460 of Windsor. And she's on the line to talk with us about 1154 01:08:23,460 --> 01:08:26,610 kimolos winding journey. Tina, welcome back to the show. Thank 1155 01:08:26,610 --> 01:08:30,690 you so much. For Americans who are not obsessed with the Royals 1156 01:08:30,690 --> 01:08:33,270 and who might know Camilla mainly for her role in the 1157 01:08:33,270 --> 01:08:37,170 breakup of King Charles is then Prince Charles's first marriage 1158 01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:39,540 reminds us of her background separate from Charles, 1159 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,500 Adam Curry: this is so not left this obsessed, 1160 01:08:43,529 --> 01:08:46,739 Unknown: obsessed, obsessed with the queen obsessed with the 1161 01:08:46,739 --> 01:08:48,449 Royals at fest. 1162 01:08:48,779 --> 01:08:51,659 Adam Curry: It's something that all American women, for some 1163 01:08:51,659 --> 01:08:55,169 reason get to get a day off from being political, and they can 1164 01:08:55,169 --> 01:08:58,529 all be obsessed. Oh, I love the hat. I love the coach. It's a 1165 01:08:58,529 --> 01:09:01,379 fairy tale. It's it's weird. 1166 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,310 John C Dvorak: Now, this particular presentation, I find 1167 01:09:05,310 --> 01:09:10,080 to be completely offensive. And they bring in Tina Brown who is 1168 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,680 famous and she's like, I don't know if she's royal washer, a 1169 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,920 royal watch. Well, I mean, she's the one who started Vanity Fair. 1170 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:22,020 She's a very famous editor. And you bring her in to do a hatchet 1171 01:09:22,020 --> 01:09:26,580 job of some sort or some professional, not a hit job in 1172 01:09:26,580 --> 01:09:30,840 this case, but a flattery job. And so we're going to be re 1173 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:36,690 educated about the greatness of Camilla now say you're way off 1174 01:09:36,690 --> 01:09:40,620 with your data analysis yours that's old. That's the old 1175 01:09:40,620 --> 01:09:44,640 analysis, did a new analysis I want you to stay I want to ask 1176 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,150 her. 1177 01:09:47,550 --> 01:09:49,500 Adam Curry: Well, of course this is you know, we have a special 1178 01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:54,150 relationship between the US and the UK. So every person who has 1179 01:09:54,150 --> 01:09:59,070 authority to speak of the Royals has to have like we had to be a 1180 01:09:59,070 --> 01:10:04,650 friend of so One or been at parties. So what do we know what 1181 01:10:04,650 --> 01:10:07,410 her connection was what Tina Brown's connection 1182 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,380 John C Dvorak: if you go to a wiki page and start looking at 1183 01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:15,480 you'll see there's some deep connection to Kingsman or 1184 01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:19,500 something who knows. Let's go to part two of these clips coming 1185 01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:19,560 to 1186 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,920 Unknown: comes from a very upper class squire rocky kind of a 1187 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,730 background. Her father was a major, very, very, extremely 1188 01:10:26,730 --> 01:10:30,000 well regarded veteran hero actually, in the Second World 1189 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,270 War. Her mother was an aristocrat, so she always was 1190 01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:37,350 raised in the extremely sort of aristocratic Millia of a country 1191 01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:41,550 debutante if you like in on the Sussex down so her whole her 1192 01:10:41,550 --> 01:10:45,030 circle was always extremely upper class bumping up against 1193 01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:47,400 Royals in every conceivable shape and form. 1194 01:10:47,850 --> 01:10:50,610 I've always thought of Charles as sort of a stiff kind of 1195 01:10:50,610 --> 01:10:53,130 awkward person, although he's grown into his role over the 1196 01:10:53,130 --> 01:10:55,350 years. What is her reputation? 1197 01:10:57,990 --> 01:11:02,760 Adam Curry: What is this NPR lady? No. He was he was always a 1198 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:03,660 little bit stiff. 1199 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,730 John C Dvorak: But no, this is like scripted. You're weird. 1200 01:11:05,730 --> 01:11:11,490 This is so scripted. It this is i It's almost like an advert. A 1201 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,180 one of those phony baloney ads. It's like it's almost like an 1202 01:11:15,180 --> 01:11:16,050 advertisement. 1203 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,080 Adam Curry: Is she referring to a native ad? Is she referring to 1204 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,870 the time when we had the the leaked phone call of Prince 1205 01:11:22,170 --> 01:11:26,280 Charles saying to Camilla I wish it was your tampon? Is that Is 1206 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,800 that what she means? Really, then he kind of grew into his 1207 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:29,340 role 1208 01:11:29,370 --> 01:11:30,510 Unknown: either will shape and form. 1209 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,720 I've always thought of Charles as sort of a stiff kind of 1210 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,240 awkward personal though he's grown into his role over the 1211 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,140 years. What is her reputation or the public sensibilities? No, 1212 01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:40,650 this 1213 01:11:40,710 --> 01:11:44,310 always wildly attractive, tremendously earthy, 1214 01:11:45,150 --> 01:11:46,530 earthy, earthy. 1215 01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:52,560 Absolutely. times you know, Compeller really was and indeed 1216 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,780 her her brother and sister were very appealing to they were 1217 01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:57,750 known as the sexy fans because the Shan family she was you 1218 01:11:57,750 --> 01:12:01,590 know, Camilla Shand? You know, they were very appealing country 1219 01:12:01,590 --> 01:12:04,320 family, always the sort of toast of every debutante party and 1220 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,780 hold on so she was a very appealing woman and she could 1221 01:12:06,780 --> 01:12:10,230 have really married anyone. She was definitely extremely popular 1222 01:12:10,260 --> 01:12:12,780 on the on the sort of, you know, the single woman's circuit. 1223 01:12:13,050 --> 01:12:14,670 Well, you say appealing, but what 1224 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,470 Adam Curry: else did she date on the single woman circuit? Who 1225 01:12:19,470 --> 01:12:20,010 else 1226 01:12:20,759 --> 01:12:23,189 John C Dvorak: they go they present this and then of course, 1227 01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:30,389 her next commentary is kind of again is different. She presents 1228 01:12:30,389 --> 01:12:35,639 her as like some hottie back in the day, and the toast of the 1229 01:12:35,639 --> 01:12:41,699 town and you know, her and her siblings, and so so that she's 1230 01:12:42,629 --> 01:12:48,209 she's developing this, this, this narrative that is just it's 1231 01:12:48,209 --> 01:12:49,109 hard to believe 1232 01:12:49,140 --> 01:12:51,150 Adam Curry: let me finish let me finish this clip. There's 22 1233 01:12:51,150 --> 01:12:52,020 seconds left home 1234 01:12:53,010 --> 01:12:55,530 Unknown: definitely are extremely popular on the on the 1235 01:12:55,530 --> 01:12:57,390 sort of, you know, the single woman's circuit. 1236 01:12:57,660 --> 01:13:00,330 Well, you say appealing, but there was a point where she was 1237 01:13:00,330 --> 01:13:03,270 one of the most hated women in Britain, I believe the year 1238 01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:06,840 after she married Charles, which was 2005. A poll for The Times 1239 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,380 of London found only 21% of the British public would be happy to 1240 01:13:10,380 --> 01:13:13,080 have her as queen. But last year, just a few days after 1241 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,590 Queen Elizabeth died, a different poll showed that 53% 1242 01:13:16,620 --> 01:13:18,750 of the British public thought she'd do a good job in her new 1243 01:13:18,750 --> 01:13:21,150 role. How does she manage that turnaround? 1244 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,810 Adam Curry: I don't see any dating history of her on the 1245 01:13:24,810 --> 01:13:30,390 wiki pedia. When she did launch the big bone walk campaign, 1246 01:13:30,660 --> 01:13:33,540 whatever that is. Wow. 1247 01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:38,640 John C Dvorak: Okay, so we're that was clip one, clip two, 1248 01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:41,250 part three. Okay, well, let's go with Step Three because now we 1249 01:13:41,250 --> 01:13:42,690 get the WTF clip. 1250 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,180 Unknown: Well, first of all, you know, that's the reason she was 1251 01:13:45,180 --> 01:13:47,760 so unpopular was really because she was always seen through the 1252 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:52,590 prism of being, you know, the usurper of the adored Princess 1253 01:13:52,590 --> 01:13:56,220 Diana. So you know, Diana used to call her the Rottweiler and 1254 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,310 you know, she was not a glamour girl come in or at any point I 1255 01:13:59,310 --> 01:14:01,920 mean, part of her is that this is a woman who likes to wear 1256 01:14:02,519 --> 01:14:05,009 Adam Curry: I thought she was the hottie hottie on the on the 1257 01:14:05,849 --> 01:14:08,369 John C Dvorak: braid there but she was never the glamour girl 1258 01:14:08,369 --> 01:14:10,349 that Auntie at any point 1259 01:14:10,530 --> 01:14:13,200 Adam Curry: she's the Yoko of the Royals man. Come on. Wait 1260 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,780 John C Dvorak: a minute. Just the clip before this. She's 1261 01:14:15,780 --> 01:14:19,020 going on about she was a hottie and she was the queen of the 1262 01:14:19,020 --> 01:14:22,380 dead, retired anybody gotten married anybody? Blah, blah, 1263 01:14:22,380 --> 01:14:26,670 blah. And now she's never been anything but. But a Rottweiler 1264 01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:27,720 or whatever that was. I 1265 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,820 Adam Curry: can't believe we're doing a whole segment on this. 1266 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,290 John C Dvorak: It's just deconstruction of NPR. Yeah, 1267 01:14:34,290 --> 01:14:34,500 that's 1268 01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:37,590 Adam Curry: a good point. They did anyway, onward that you know 1269 01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:39,810 what? Elon Musk is right. They don't deserve to have the 1270 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:41,940 John C Dvorak: total agreement. 1271 01:14:42,540 --> 01:14:45,360 Unknown: And you know, she was not a glamour girl. committer at 1272 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,690 any point, I mean, part of her appeal. He likes to wear 1273 01:14:48,690 --> 01:14:51,660 comfortable shoes that she doesn't like to get funny and 1274 01:14:51,809 --> 01:14:54,149 Adam Curry: comfortable shoes because she doesn't like to get 1275 01:14:54,419 --> 01:14:56,249 that's hot on the dating scene. 1276 01:14:57,900 --> 01:15:00,990 John C Dvorak: Great. She wears comfortable shoes because she 1277 01:15:00,990 --> 01:15:03,300 doesn't like to get bunions. Tony that's 1278 01:15:03,300 --> 01:15:05,880 Adam Curry: literally in a world where women wear comfortable 1279 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,070 shoes. This is horrible. 1280 01:15:08,100 --> 01:15:11,160 Unknown: She's because she doesn't like to get bunions you 1281 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,740 know she has gardeners hands in the sense that you know, rather 1282 01:15:13,740 --> 01:15:14,370 gardeners 1283 01:15:14,370 --> 01:15:17,580 Adam Curry: hands test oh my god I've met this chick she's so 1284 01:15:17,580 --> 01:15:21,360 hot. She's wearing Crocs and she's got bunions. Gardener 1285 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,930 hands, man all like crooked and crap. Oh, I can't wait to bagger 1286 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,150 Unknown: you know, she has gotten his hands in the sense of 1287 01:15:27,150 --> 01:15:29,340 you know, rather dirty fingernails from her plunging 1288 01:15:29,340 --> 01:15:32,970 into amongst the greenery. A real kind of dog walker covered 1289 01:15:32,970 --> 01:15:35,040 in dog has you know, she's not a glamour woman. 1290 01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:35,940 Wow. 1291 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,810 Adam Curry: All right, you know, just because I don't know why I 1292 01:15:39,810 --> 01:15:41,700 have this. I have to give this to you just right now. 1293 01:15:43,170 --> 01:15:46,470 Unknown: That is wow. Wow. 1294 01:15:47,340 --> 01:15:49,590 John C Dvorak: A clip of the day after you're complaining. 1295 01:15:51,630 --> 01:15:56,370 Adam Curry: This was this is horrible. Tina Brock. Wow. I all 1296 01:15:56,370 --> 01:16:00,030 I can say is wow, I've said it too many times already. Man, 1297 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,340 John C Dvorak: it's unbelievable. I know this. So 1298 01:16:02,340 --> 01:16:05,310 here we go with the UG clip. This is a clip for 1299 01:16:06,810 --> 01:16:08,820 Unknown: and unfortunately for her or you know, people knew 1300 01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:11,490 nothing really about her because she was so very, very private. 1301 01:16:11,820 --> 01:16:14,340 Her friends knew she was this extraordinary, attractive and 1302 01:16:14,340 --> 01:16:16,920 appealing woman but you know, in terms of the public feeling 1303 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,470 about her, they saw her through Diana's eyes which was usurper 1304 01:16:19,470 --> 01:16:23,100 and she had to have that stigma and the press went after her was 1305 01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:26,700 such viciousness. I mean, the really appalling sexist comments 1306 01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:29,580 about Kamala, I mean, they used to call her, you know, Baghel 1307 01:16:29,580 --> 01:16:31,500 trout. You know. 1308 01:16:33,660 --> 01:16:38,190 Adam Curry: I've never heard old trout. I think that's a winner 1309 01:16:38,190 --> 01:16:38,730 show title 1310 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,730 Unknown: spaciousness. I mean, the really appalling sexist 1311 01:16:41,730 --> 01:16:44,250 comments about Kamala, I mean, they used to call her you know, 1312 01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:45,600 Baghel trout, 1313 01:16:46,050 --> 01:16:47,970 Adam Curry: which were I mean, she called her lady with 1314 01:16:47,970 --> 01:16:52,230 gardener hands a dog lady, by the way. How can old trout be 1315 01:16:52,230 --> 01:16:57,990 bad? Passes? This is NPR man. Crazy press 1316 01:16:58,350 --> 01:17:02,280 Unknown: Control. NAFTA was such viciousness. I mean, the really 1317 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,770 appalling sexist comments about Kamala, I mean, they used to 1318 01:17:04,770 --> 01:17:08,580 call her, you know, Baghel trout. You know, I mean, there 1319 01:17:08,580 --> 01:17:12,540 was even a dish named after her as haddock, Parker Bowles. I 1320 01:17:12,540 --> 01:17:15,090 mean, just the rudest thing had to the point that she used to 1321 01:17:15,090 --> 01:17:18,630 joke to Charles and assign her letter to him. You're devoted 1322 01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:21,750 old bag, Camilla. Because she'd been called it so often. 1323 01:17:22,050 --> 01:17:24,360 Sounds like she was a good sport about the abuse. Yes, 1324 01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:26,700 she had a great sense of humor that was part of her strength. 1325 01:17:26,730 --> 01:17:27,930 So do you think over time 1326 01:17:27,930 --> 01:17:31,080 the public has forgiven her and it thinks, look, this is a 1327 01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,570 legitimate relationship? Is it legitimate love between these 1328 01:17:33,570 --> 01:17:36,330 two? And we've time time healed how the public felt about her? 1329 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,000 Well, yes, because she's now been a working royal for 20 1330 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,790 years actually really want nearly 20 years. I mean, as well 1331 01:17:41,790 --> 01:17:45,150 as wife of Charles, there has been an acceptance, I mean, in 1332 01:17:45,150 --> 01:17:48,870 some ways, because Charles now becomes king so late, and she's 1333 01:17:48,870 --> 01:17:51,540 a woman of 75. After all, she has now become sort of the 1334 01:17:51,540 --> 01:17:54,300 nation's grandmother and is sort of on her way to becoming sort 1335 01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:57,450 of a national treasure. So having kind of getting the 1336 01:17:57,450 --> 01:18:01,170 reward, as it were so late has really been beneficial to her 1337 01:18:01,170 --> 01:18:04,050 because earlier, I don't think the public would have accepted 1338 01:18:04,050 --> 01:18:06,540 it. But they're beginning to see that she's a very hardworking, 1339 01:18:06,540 --> 01:18:09,330 very gracious, humorous, unpretentious woman actually, 1340 01:18:09,330 --> 01:18:11,970 who has definitely improved Charles's life and has really 1341 01:18:11,970 --> 01:18:15,090 transformed him into being an unapologetically happy man. 1342 01:18:16,019 --> 01:18:17,879 Adam Curry: Oh, he looks so happy, doesn't he? 1343 01:18:18,599 --> 01:18:21,749 John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Now you all should 1344 01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:24,720 Adam Curry: be ashamed of themselves. don't donate to NPR. 1345 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:29,430 John C Dvorak: Know give us the money Yeah, really. So so I get 1346 01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:32,490 this last clip and like I say, Keep listening to this thinking 1347 01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:37,440 there's got to be some things someone some talent some what 1348 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:41,190 happened here, why am I listening to Tina Brown, doing 1349 01:18:41,190 --> 01:18:45,660 shtick and then also trying to be so complimentary in some sort 1350 01:18:45,660 --> 01:18:50,640 of a propagandist ik way? There must be a rationale. There must 1351 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,610 be something something Ah, here it comes and clip five see if 1352 01:18:53,610 --> 01:18:54,480 you can find it. 1353 01:18:54,660 --> 01:18:57,690 Unknown: In Prince Harry's very popular recent memoir. He was 1354 01:18:57,690 --> 01:19:01,200 very critical of her and I suppose like any blended family, 1355 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,870 let's call it the Windsors have some complicated relationship. 1356 01:19:03,870 --> 01:19:03,960 Is 1357 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,690 Adam Curry: that a racist comment blended family is that 1358 01:19:06,690 --> 01:19:12,000 because the Harry did not catch that? Is that is that like 1359 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,480 people of color? Is that what they mean? blended? Interesting 1360 01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:18,030 and catch let's just call it blended 1361 01:19:18,059 --> 01:19:21,479 Unknown: racist in Prince Harry's very popular recent 1362 01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,509 memoir. He was very critical of her and I suppose like any 1363 01:19:24,509 --> 01:19:27,269 blended family, let's call it the Windsors have some 1364 01:19:27,269 --> 01:19:30,239 complicated relationships to navigate. But he accused her of 1365 01:19:30,269 --> 01:19:32,939 feeding the press and negative stories about him so she could 1366 01:19:32,939 --> 01:19:36,989 get better Press Is that likely to contaminate how Brits feel 1367 01:19:36,989 --> 01:19:37,469 about her? 1368 01:19:37,530 --> 01:19:40,980 Well, I think there was a period when Charles to really 1369 01:19:40,980 --> 01:19:44,490 rehabilitate both his own image and that of Camilla after the 1370 01:19:44,490 --> 01:19:49,080 death of Diana hired a quite resourceful, shall we say 1371 01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:52,350 sophisticated press secretary who was all about making her 1372 01:19:52,350 --> 01:19:55,590 reputation better and making Charles's reputation but Harry 1373 01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:58,290 felt strongly that he and William was sometimes thrown 1374 01:19:58,290 --> 01:20:00,690 under the bus for the sake of their father. And for Camila's 1375 01:20:00,690 --> 01:20:04,740 PR, you know, I think that Harry also does very much see that 1376 01:20:04,740 --> 01:20:08,310 through the furious, you know lens of being the son of you 1377 01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:11,460 know the beloved Diana, his wonderful mother. The only real 1378 01:20:11,460 --> 01:20:14,640 misery in her life was this figure, Camilla so it's not 1379 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,420 really unlikely that Harry would feel so strongly about it 1380 01:20:18,420 --> 01:20:20,400 because all his life he was raised to think of her as the 1381 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:20,820 enemy. 1382 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:28,200 John C Dvorak: The PR woman, then talented PR woman is still 1383 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:34,860 working for them. And Tina Brown was to it. I guess she had to 1384 01:20:34,860 --> 01:20:35,700 mention it 1385 01:20:35,849 --> 01:20:38,339 Unknown: because she has her friends with her she's friends. 1386 01:20:38,999 --> 01:20:39,629 And so she 1387 01:20:39,630 --> 01:20:42,480 John C Dvorak: mentioned it and you next thing I'm thinking oh, 1388 01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:47,130 this whole thing is a setup. The PR woman arranged it this is 1389 01:20:47,130 --> 01:20:50,760 just a hagiography kind of things. You probably pay Tina 1390 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:55,530 straight from the Royal budget. Yeah, who knows? Well, it is a 1391 01:20:55,530 --> 01:20:56,490 scam 1392 01:20:56,519 --> 01:20:59,429 Adam Curry: and I think NPR jumped on it because they want 1393 01:20:59,429 --> 01:21:02,369 some of that Harry and Megan juice. You know, because that's 1394 01:21:02,369 --> 01:21:05,879 been very successful. It's been very profitable. There Netflix 1395 01:21:06,179 --> 01:21:09,869 show has been you know, that was one of the top viewed Netflix 1396 01:21:10,289 --> 01:21:14,039 shows ever. Yeah, so they're just going for some cheap ass 1397 01:21:14,039 --> 01:21:21,869 ratings. With a with a cheap couple in a cheap ass coach is 1398 01:21:21,869 --> 01:21:26,219 cheap, cheap ass. It's just cheap has been big, cheap ass 1399 01:21:26,219 --> 01:21:27,719 thing. All right, I gotta lighten the mood here for a 1400 01:21:27,719 --> 01:21:31,109 second. I need to tell you a little story. That was pretty 1401 01:21:31,109 --> 01:21:34,199 light. I know but I'm gonna go light into heavier stuff but 1402 01:21:34,199 --> 01:21:41,909 through a through a more modern a modern conflict so the old 1403 01:21:41,909 --> 01:21:47,849 rockers are still out and about. And Gene Simmons, I don't know 1404 01:21:47,849 --> 01:21:50,429 what he's doing. But he was he was like, Hey, if you don't get 1405 01:21:50,429 --> 01:21:57,149 the COVID shot you should die. So gene gene was a dick but Paul 1406 01:21:57,149 --> 01:22:04,529 Stanley of Kiss he's the guitar player key is you know did 1407 01:22:04,529 --> 01:22:08,519 something very controversial. Now these guys are all have a 1408 01:22:08,519 --> 01:22:12,239 Stanley's gotta be almost 70 These guys are all up there. And 1409 01:22:12,239 --> 01:22:14,609 I know them all and they're interesting dudes you but you 1410 01:22:14,609 --> 01:22:17,669 know, they're still playing the you know, the Connecticut fair 1411 01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:20,819 or whatever the kids probably does is concealed draw big 1412 01:22:20,819 --> 01:22:28,529 audiences. And he posted about trans Maoism. Doors we call 1413 01:22:28,559 --> 01:22:32,369 that's what we call it, but in general is about transgender 1414 01:22:32,369 --> 01:22:36,269 children, you know about gender affirming care. We've talked 1415 01:22:36,269 --> 01:22:39,149 about this. He says my thoughts on what I'm seeing. There's a 1416 01:22:39,149 --> 01:22:41,759 big difference between teaching acceptance and normalizing and 1417 01:22:41,759 --> 01:22:45,179 even encouraging participation and a lifestyle that confuses 1418 01:22:45,179 --> 01:22:48,449 young children into questioning their sexual identification, as 1419 01:22:48,449 --> 01:22:51,869 though some sort of game and then the parents in some cases 1420 01:22:51,899 --> 01:22:55,379 allow it. There are individuals who as adults may decide 1421 01:22:55,379 --> 01:22:58,199 reassignment is their needed choice. But turning this into a 1422 01:22:58,199 --> 01:23:00,959 game or parents normalizing it as some sort of natural 1423 01:23:00,959 --> 01:23:03,809 alternative. Or believing that because little boy likes to play 1424 01:23:03,809 --> 01:23:06,749 dress up in his sister clothes or a girl in her brother's we 1425 01:23:06,749 --> 01:23:10,199 should lead them steps further down a path that's far from the 1426 01:23:10,199 --> 01:23:13,049 innocence of what they are doing. With many children who 1427 01:23:13,049 --> 01:23:16,769 have no real sense of sexuality or sexual experience caught up 1428 01:23:16,769 --> 01:23:20,669 in the fun of using pronouns and seeing what they identify as 1429 01:23:20,789 --> 01:23:24,359 some adults mistakenly confuse teaching acceptance with 1430 01:23:24,359 --> 01:23:26,909 normalizing and encouraging a situation that has been a 1431 01:23:26,909 --> 01:23:29,939 struggle for those truly affected and if turned into a 1432 01:23:29,939 --> 01:23:34,949 sad and dangerous fad. Well, slow clap Tiffany pen tap for 1433 01:23:34,949 --> 01:23:39,029 Paul Stanley. This is good, right? So yes, okay, Paul, you 1434 01:23:39,029 --> 01:23:43,799 know, of course, you know, it's just a tweet now. Oh, the world 1435 01:23:43,799 --> 01:23:48,029 comes to an end. Oh, no. Oh, boy. Paul Stanley, what does he 1436 01:23:48,029 --> 01:23:51,809 say now? Parallel to this a few weeks ago, I didn't mention on 1437 01:23:51,809 --> 01:23:57,149 the show because D Schneider is a drip. Then on D Snyder is the 1438 01:23:57,149 --> 01:24:01,499 lead singer of Twisted Sister that pretty much only had one 1439 01:24:01,499 --> 01:24:05,849 hit. We're not going to take it and and I'm sure that he wrote 1440 01:24:05,849 --> 01:24:07,829 it. I don't know who else I should have checked out who else 1441 01:24:07,829 --> 01:24:11,099 wrote the song. But when you have a song like that, you can 1442 01:24:11,519 --> 01:24:16,679 do you get your royalties and you know, the the song is played 1443 01:24:16,679 --> 01:24:19,109 over and over and over again. It's played in venues it's 1444 01:24:19,109 --> 01:24:21,839 played all over the world. It's played as an anthem for all 1445 01:24:21,839 --> 01:24:24,809 kinds of stuff. It's it's one of those pits that you could it's 1446 01:24:24,809 --> 01:24:28,319 like like writing White Christmas almost. The money just 1447 01:24:28,319 --> 01:24:31,529 always comes in a you can always dress up with the eye makeup. 1448 01:24:31,649 --> 01:24:34,709 Get your get your glam on get your high heels on because 1449 01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:36,989 that's what Twisted Sister was you know the name Twisted 1450 01:24:36,989 --> 01:24:40,979 Sister. And you can always just do gigs you can because all you 1451 01:24:40,979 --> 01:24:44,939 have to do is have 10 songs. five songs a do we're not going 1452 01:24:44,939 --> 01:24:47,669 to take it three times. And that's our show. Good night, 1453 01:24:47,669 --> 01:24:53,249 Connecticut. And I'm happy that you remember. This must have 1454 01:24:53,249 --> 01:24:59,249 been 2010 2011 Maybe Yeah. Howard Stern interviewed me for 1455 01:24:59,279 --> 01:25:03,479 Sirius X Sam, and I made a pitch to Howard Stern. I said, Hey, 1456 01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:08,519 you know, I'm authorized, which I wasn't. But we knew we could 1457 01:25:08,519 --> 01:25:11,459 get the money. I said, But I'm offered to offer you Howard 1458 01:25:11,459 --> 01:25:15,869 Stern $100 million to leave Syria, I think is his contract 1459 01:25:15,869 --> 01:25:18,989 was up for renegotiation renegotiation to leave Sirius 1460 01:25:18,989 --> 01:25:23,309 XM, be come over to pod show, and we'll make a podcasting star 1461 01:25:23,309 --> 01:25:25,289 out if you remember this. 1462 01:25:26,130 --> 01:25:27,510 John C Dvorak: I do remember this. Yeah. 1463 01:25:27,570 --> 01:25:29,700 Adam Curry: In fact, we had a big argument after this 1464 01:25:29,700 --> 01:25:32,400 interview, because you said it was a horrible interview. And 1465 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,060 they didn't mention Oh, my God, we had a real argue I was really 1466 01:25:36,300 --> 01:25:38,250 John C Dvorak: well, yeah, you got all bent out of shape. When 1467 01:25:38,250 --> 01:25:39,780 it was my commentary, you said 1468 01:25:39,780 --> 01:25:42,390 Adam Curry: that it was it was a horrible interview. And I did 1469 01:25:42,390 --> 01:25:45,900 not mention no agenda once and I was bad. And I will 1470 01:25:45,900 --> 01:25:48,300 John C Dvorak: say to me, yes. Not mentioning no agenda is a 1471 01:25:48,300 --> 01:25:49,530 horrible interview period. 1472 01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,440 Adam Curry: Right. But it was the first moment that that you 1473 01:25:52,440 --> 01:25:54,960 really hurt me. And then I said some really hurtful things to 1474 01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,470 you. And it was it was not a great moment for Adam. But also 1475 01:25:58,470 --> 01:26:01,620 you were total dick. So and but then after that I am a total 1476 01:26:01,620 --> 01:26:03,810 dead. That's just what I realized. That was the moment 1477 01:26:03,810 --> 01:26:05,010 I'm like, Oh, okay. 1478 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,040 John C Dvorak: No, go on. Okay. 1479 01:26:08,730 --> 01:26:16,770 Adam Curry: Kara. Tito's even doing this now. Anyway, so like 1480 01:26:16,770 --> 01:26:21,390 a week later, D Snyder calls me. Hey, Adam. Hey, man. Wow. You 1481 01:26:21,390 --> 01:26:24,720 know, it's great. By here. John, was Howard and Howard bibble of 1482 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,170 the Howard. And Sal does podcasting. Like God I could 1483 01:26:28,170 --> 01:26:31,170 tell me about. So I say yeah, man. Do we have this value for 1484 01:26:31,170 --> 01:26:33,660 value model? Yeah, but what about the money? Can you pay me 1485 01:26:33,660 --> 01:26:36,600 to do a podcast? I'm a great podcaster I can be really good. 1486 01:26:36,660 --> 01:26:39,630 When I'm on Howard. I'm killing it. I always kill it. And who is 1487 01:26:39,630 --> 01:26:44,970 this? Dee Snider from Twisted Sister. Delete guy, the glam guy 1488 01:26:44,970 --> 01:26:49,590 the you know the glamour guy. Yeah, and he's calling me and 1489 01:26:49,590 --> 01:26:53,250 he's like, he just he smells money. He's a he's a money 1490 01:26:53,250 --> 01:26:57,390 whore. Hey, man. Oh yeah, I'm always on Howard but I'm I kill 1491 01:26:57,390 --> 01:26:59,910 what I'm I can do a better job than how I can do great show 1492 01:26:59,910 --> 01:27:01,920 better than Howard. Howard Howard. Howard. Howard. I'm 1493 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,790 always on Howard. Howard loves me. I'm great that I said no. 1494 01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:09,720 You know, just for Howard the money you're not Howard doll. 1495 01:27:10,020 --> 01:27:10,920 Come on, come on, 1496 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:14,940 John C Dvorak: Howard. And so it was really if you're not Howard. 1497 01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:18,750 That's what I said. Yeah, well, that's what you Yeah, well, it's 1498 01:27:18,750 --> 01:27:19,020 like, 1499 01:27:19,469 --> 01:27:22,649 Adam Curry: well, it anyway, I was I was like Dee Snider is a 1500 01:27:22,649 --> 01:27:25,289 dick is what I thought. That's what I recall from this 1501 01:27:25,289 --> 01:27:30,629 conversation, but a dick. So a few weeks ago, when more of the 1502 01:27:30,659 --> 01:27:34,229 oh, here comes a euphemism, or not even a euphemism, anti trans 1503 01:27:34,229 --> 01:27:41,249 legislation. Meaning Tennessee doesn't want kids to be at drag 1504 01:27:41,249 --> 01:27:45,179 shows in public places, you know, minors now it seems like a 1505 01:27:45,179 --> 01:27:48,809 normal idea. But that is now anti trans legislation. They 1506 01:27:48,809 --> 01:27:51,299 want to get rid of us. They want to wipe us from the earth like 1507 01:27:51,299 --> 01:27:54,479 the Jews. They did doing the same thing to us they did to the 1508 01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:59,129 gays. This is all over the news. And he comes out and he says, 1509 01:27:59,909 --> 01:28:03,599 you know, this is crazy, this anti trans legislation because I 1510 01:28:03,599 --> 01:28:07,589 can't even do my show in Tennessee because it can be seen 1511 01:28:07,589 --> 01:28:11,549 as a drag show because you know, he dresses up puts on the purple 1512 01:28:11,579 --> 01:28:17,069 eyeshadow. Fingernails painted. He's got the high heels on it. 1513 01:28:17,069 --> 01:28:21,059 You know, he has one song. It's like watching the freak show is 1514 01:28:21,059 --> 01:28:24,719 like Okay, so he's trying to he's trying to jump because this 1515 01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:28,709 is what he is. Hey, man. I'm as good as Howard. Hey, man, I'm as 1516 01:28:28,709 --> 01:28:32,129 good as all the trends shows. I'll be great at a drag show. 1517 01:28:32,129 --> 01:28:32,639 I'm great. 1518 01:28:34,530 --> 01:28:35,340 John C Dvorak: God, 1519 01:28:35,730 --> 01:28:37,350 Adam Curry: you're so you understand. You're like this 1520 01:28:37,350 --> 01:28:38,790 Unknown: guy. No, I 1521 01:28:38,790 --> 01:28:42,270 Adam Curry: don't. But you made it clear. But you understand 1522 01:28:42,270 --> 01:28:45,450 what he's doing is he's trying. He's trying to set himself up 1523 01:28:45,450 --> 01:28:49,500 with a popular with the popular movement. Jumping on the band is 1524 01:28:49,500 --> 01:28:53,640 called bandwagon bag bandwagon. Now remember, he has 1525 01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:55,440 John C Dvorak: the other the other guy that you mentioned 1526 01:28:55,440 --> 01:29:00,690 earlier that had the commentary on Twitter, when he finished it 1527 01:29:00,690 --> 01:29:04,320 off by saying it's a fad of this fad thing? And I think that's 1528 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,870 correct. I think this is a fad and they will come and go. 1529 01:29:07,679 --> 01:29:11,549 Adam Curry: Which is exactly why a D Schneider jumps on the fad. 1530 01:29:11,909 --> 01:29:15,599 Like oh, oh is a fad. I can get in on by the way. I've got a 1531 01:29:15,599 --> 01:29:19,109 great song for the trans community. We're not gonna take 1532 01:29:19,109 --> 01:29:24,659 it. I would like to say one of the best glam rock songs ever no 1533 01:29:24,659 --> 01:29:31,379 doubt about it. Great song. was now 40 years of children have 1534 01:29:31,709 --> 01:29:35,369 used this as their rebellion song. Nothing wrong with that, 1535 01:29:35,429 --> 01:29:38,309 but that's what you got, bro. That's all you got. And now 1536 01:29:38,309 --> 01:29:41,699 you're jumping on on the trans band the trans fat bank 1537 01:29:41,699 --> 01:29:48,059 bandwagon. But then all the kid all the rock guys are going Hey, 1538 01:29:48,809 --> 01:29:56,039 hey, Dee Snider? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not on board 1539 01:29:56,039 --> 01:29:59,219 with that. We're gonna Bud Light your ass man. We don't like 1540 01:29:59,219 --> 01:30:03,269 this. No. No, you just you could have that song, we'll go we'll 1541 01:30:03,269 --> 01:30:06,359 rock out to you. But we don't we're not on board with the 1542 01:30:06,359 --> 01:30:11,099 trans stuff. Not the way it's being portrayed. So he then 1543 01:30:11,969 --> 01:30:16,919 idiot, he, oh, I've got to adjust everything. Um, what am I 1544 01:30:16,919 --> 01:30:23,519 gonna do? So he then tweets something to Paul Stanley. And 1545 01:30:23,519 --> 01:30:27,899 this is now the subject of some great controversy. This is local 1546 01:30:27,899 --> 01:30:29,369 news from San Francisco. 1547 01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,850 Unknown: San Francisco pride is distancing itself from twisted 1548 01:30:32,850 --> 01:30:37,080 sisters D Snyder, after the singer defended anti trans 1549 01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:40,260 tweets made by former kissing or Paul Stanley. 1550 01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,900 Adam Curry: I love that this report, by the way is going to 1551 01:30:42,900 --> 01:30:46,470 be my evergreen, nothing like this effeminate gay guy doing 1552 01:30:46,470 --> 01:30:50,250 this report about these two old rock guys, and this is this is 1553 01:30:50,250 --> 01:30:52,110 peak trans bullshit. 1554 01:30:52,590 --> 01:30:54,450 Unknown: This is a bit confusing, but let me start with 1555 01:30:54,450 --> 01:30:58,560 Stanley's tweet, which was sent on Sunday, and in a nutshell, It 1556 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,230 criticizes parents who accept their children who are 1557 01:31:01,230 --> 01:31:04,860 questioning their gender identities. So here's what 1558 01:31:04,860 --> 01:31:07,980 happened with Schneider. Schneider saw this tweet 1559 01:31:08,010 --> 01:31:12,120 retweeted it and added this. You know what, there was a time 1560 01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:16,290 where I felt pretty too glad my parents didn't jump to any rash 1561 01:31:16,290 --> 01:31:19,590 conclusions. Well said Paul Stanley. 1562 01:31:19,980 --> 01:31:22,440 Adam Curry: So are you still with me? You still wouldn't know 1563 01:31:22,440 --> 01:31:24,060 what's going on here. And this saga 1564 01:31:25,470 --> 01:31:27,540 John C Dvorak: was getting funny. So 1565 01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,740 Adam Curry: show now so now pride San Francisco is mad. 1566 01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:35,640 They're mad. And there's a reason for it. It was all secret 1567 01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,880 we didn't know this was happening behind the scenes. But 1568 01:31:38,970 --> 01:31:43,110 Indy Snyder's infinite wisdom and his never ending quest to 1569 01:31:43,110 --> 01:31:47,670 jump on the latest fad, whether it's podcasting or pro trans or 1570 01:31:47,670 --> 01:31:54,060 anti trans pee now screwed up so bad that the Trans Pride 1571 01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:55,830 community is mad. 1572 01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:58,770 Unknown: And here's where pride comes into this conversation. 1573 01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:01,890 Pride had been set to announce Twisted Sister song we're not 1574 01:32:01,890 --> 01:32:05,970 going to take it as the official NFM of pride 2023 1575 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:10,290 Adam Curry: So this is money in the bank for D to have the whole 1576 01:32:10,290 --> 01:32:15,510 pride community adopting we're not going to take it this would 1577 01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:21,150 blow life into that song. This is another $100,000 A year Easy. 1578 01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:27,480 Easy because he wrote it he owns it this is his This is his his 1579 01:32:27,480 --> 01:32:31,740 moneymaker shake that moneymaker. But he pissed off 1580 01:32:31,740 --> 01:32:32,880 the wrong people. 1581 01:32:33,180 --> 01:32:34,170 Unknown: The wrong people. 1582 01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,380 Joining us now with the latest on this saga is Suzanne for the 1583 01:32:37,380 --> 01:32:39,540 executive director of SF pride. Hi, Susan. 1584 01:32:40,350 --> 01:32:45,180 Adam Curry: I ready for Suzanne. No. 1585 01:32:45,900 --> 01:32:46,860 Unknown: Good morning, Reggie. 1586 01:32:47,250 --> 01:32:51,330 So you all disclosure here. You are ready to roll out with the 1587 01:32:51,330 --> 01:32:55,590 Snyder interviews with the media. It was under embargo. But 1588 01:32:55,590 --> 01:32:58,890 in a few days, you are going to announce this partnership with D 1589 01:32:58,890 --> 01:33:03,120 Schneider and with this song. So what was your reaction when you 1590 01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:04,530 saw this tweet? 1591 01:33:04,590 --> 01:33:07,680 Adam Curry: So I'm just gonna be brutally honest here. Just 1592 01:33:07,710 --> 01:33:10,650 because you don't have video. This is this is me. He may have 1593 01:33:10,650 --> 01:33:15,090 transitioned fully, but this is a dude. Sharon, Rachel, whatever 1594 01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:19,500 his name is, and any of the mannerisms. It's not just it's a 1595 01:33:19,500 --> 01:33:22,740 dude. It could be in Twisted Sister. So the whole thing is 1596 01:33:22,740 --> 01:33:26,820 just blow my mind now. But the business of it is this really 1597 01:33:26,820 --> 01:33:31,410 has screw Dee Snider has screwed himself so badly with this. 1598 01:33:31,500 --> 01:33:35,040 Unknown: I was made me sick. I mean, we were just I mean, we 1599 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:38,250 were on the cusp of making this announcement on D. Schneider was 1600 01:33:38,250 --> 01:33:43,050 going to appear on the mainstage at SF pride and he was going to 1601 01:33:43,050 --> 01:33:46,860 be in the in the parade as a celebrity Grand Marshal. And of 1602 01:33:46,860 --> 01:33:51,210 course we cannot. We cannot stand by his statements. We have 1603 01:33:51,210 --> 01:33:54,990 to stand up and say that was wrong and we can't be had to end 1604 01:33:54,990 --> 01:33:56,190 our association with him. 1605 01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:01,050 How did this begin to do Schneider approach you and pride 1606 01:34:01,110 --> 01:34:02,460 and offer the song? 1607 01:34:02,820 --> 01:34:05,910 Well, we'd been looking for a way to stand up to all this hate 1608 01:34:05,940 --> 01:34:08,910 out in the country, the anti trans legislation, the anti 1609 01:34:08,910 --> 01:34:09,960 queer legislation 1610 01:34:09,990 --> 01:34:13,110 Adam Curry: and anti queer legislation. This is new. 1611 01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:16,680 John C Dvorak: What specific anti queer knowledge? 1612 01:34:16,710 --> 01:34:18,390 Adam Curry: I don't even know what what it is. We can't even 1613 01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:23,850 define what is it? I don't know. I don't know. It's I don't know. 1614 01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,160 Unknown: Well, we've been looking for a way to stand up to 1615 01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,950 all this hate out in the country, the anti trans 1616 01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:32,340 legislation, the anti queer legislation, and we were looking 1617 01:34:32,340 --> 01:34:36,450 for a slogan and our PR team, I said, this is what we need to 1618 01:34:36,450 --> 01:34:38,610 say. And they said, Well, why don't we just say we're not 1619 01:34:38,610 --> 01:34:41,880 going to take it and that started the process. And we did 1620 01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,750 reach out to their people. And D was great. He called me and 1621 01:34:45,750 --> 01:34:48,690 said, Hey, you can use this song. That's what this song 1622 01:34:48,690 --> 01:34:52,770 should stand for. And then of course, he preempted that with 1623 01:34:52,770 --> 01:34:54,840 his statements supporting Paul Stanley. 1624 01:34:55,110 --> 01:34:58,080 Have you talked to D since this tweet came out? 1625 01:34:58,530 --> 01:35:00,450 I did. I had a painful discussion. sitting with him 1626 01:35:00,450 --> 01:35:05,430 yesterday and fall. I think he realizes that he was wrong. He 1627 01:35:05,430 --> 01:35:09,390 thought he was taking a moderate stance when it when it comes to 1628 01:35:09,390 --> 01:35:12,330 self identification for trans people. There's no moderate 1629 01:35:12,330 --> 01:35:16,110 stance we need to believe our trans kids when they tell us 1630 01:35:16,140 --> 01:35:17,190 about their gender. 1631 01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:21,030 Adam Curry: Oh, there it is. We need to believe our trans kids 1632 01:35:21,030 --> 01:35:24,180 when they tell us about our gender. Okay, let's hear from 1633 01:35:24,180 --> 01:35:27,510 one of the trans kids Katie Lennon. And Katie Lennon tells 1634 01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:28,200 her story. 1635 01:35:28,260 --> 01:35:30,720 Unknown: It's like many children and teens today I identified 1636 01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,840 myself as transgender for years. And when I started to feel 1637 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,330 confused and ashamed about my developing body, I asked 1638 01:35:36,330 --> 01:35:39,330 everyone in my life to call me by a new name, and use male 1639 01:35:39,330 --> 01:35:42,300 pronouns to refer to me. So in other words, I went through a 1640 01:35:42,300 --> 01:35:46,050 social transition from female to male, everyone in my life 1641 01:35:46,050 --> 01:35:48,450 immediately affirmed my new identity either out of full 1642 01:35:48,450 --> 01:35:50,940 support for it or just to stay neutral and not cause any 1643 01:35:50,940 --> 01:35:53,880 issues. But the constant affirmation both active and 1644 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:57,600 passive, solidified me and my transgender identity, no one 1645 01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,880 meant to lock me into an identity that would later leave 1646 01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:02,670 me broken or shamed and more confused than before. They were 1647 01:36:02,670 --> 01:36:06,180 really all just being nice. But the social transition eventually 1648 01:36:06,180 --> 01:36:09,480 wasn't enough. And I soon felt I needed to take testosterone. And 1649 01:36:09,480 --> 01:36:12,450 when that wasn't enough, I had a double mastectomy. And when that 1650 01:36:12,450 --> 01:36:14,910 still wasn't enough, I had a total hysterectomy, including 1651 01:36:14,910 --> 01:36:18,540 the removal of my uterus, cervix, fallopian tubes and both 1652 01:36:18,540 --> 01:36:21,690 ovaries. There's no point of contentment during a gender 1653 01:36:21,690 --> 01:36:24,450 transition. We get fleeting moments of euphoria, but 1654 01:36:24,450 --> 01:36:27,390 ultimately one step leads straight into the next. And I 1655 01:36:27,390 --> 01:36:29,730 thought that in the end, I could really become a man but all I 1656 01:36:29,730 --> 01:36:32,700 became was a mutilated and abused version of my old self. 1657 01:36:33,390 --> 01:36:36,180 social transition is a big deal. And we're lying when we say that 1658 01:36:36,180 --> 01:36:39,450 any of this is reversible. This is a big decision with lifelong 1659 01:36:39,450 --> 01:36:41,700 consequences. And New Hampshire doesn't even require that 1660 01:36:41,700 --> 01:36:44,910 parents be involved. If the roles of mother and father don't 1661 01:36:44,910 --> 01:36:47,700 include authority over the emotional, social and physical 1662 01:36:47,700 --> 01:36:50,790 future of their children, the roles no longer mean anything. 1663 01:36:51,330 --> 01:36:53,610 Like me, transgender, identifying youth have a high 1664 01:36:53,610 --> 01:36:56,820 risk for depression. The Trevor Project, which is an LGBT 1665 01:36:56,820 --> 01:37:01,380 advocacy group, reports that 45% of LGBT teens have seriously 1666 01:37:01,380 --> 01:37:05,100 considered attempting suicide in the past year. More than half of 1667 01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:08,340 that number is transgender, identifying youth, teachers and 1668 01:37:08,340 --> 01:37:11,250 school administrators are mandated reporters, if a child 1669 01:37:11,250 --> 01:37:14,280 is suspected to be four times more likely to attempt suicide 1670 01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,830 than the other students his age, his parents have a right to 1671 01:37:16,830 --> 01:37:17,160 know. 1672 01:37:17,700 --> 01:37:19,860 Adam Curry: So this is all coming from the schools. We've 1673 01:37:19,860 --> 01:37:22,650 discussed this. And there's a slogan that I learned the other 1674 01:37:22,650 --> 01:37:25,770 day when the campus when the world, that's what's going on 1675 01:37:25,770 --> 01:37:30,930 here. And even even Bill Maher is now seeing this for what it 1676 01:37:30,930 --> 01:37:34,530 is what we identified correctly, when we first went down this 1677 01:37:34,530 --> 01:37:40,710 road of what is happening with transgender activism and removal 1678 01:37:40,710 --> 01:37:45,510 of parents rights, allowing children to be literally 1679 01:37:45,510 --> 01:37:49,470 captured. I have just story makers that captured by the 1680 01:37:49,470 --> 01:37:52,860 state captured by the law. I'll read a little bit of this, one 1681 01:37:52,860 --> 01:37:56,340 of our producers. He's from Colorado, I think you you 1682 01:37:56,340 --> 01:37:58,860 probably saw this note as well. I've been below the radar for 1683 01:37:58,860 --> 01:38:01,290 past three plus years because I've been living the COVID Trans 1684 01:38:01,290 --> 01:38:04,230 Maoist nightmare with my daughter, I don't even know 1685 01:38:04,260 --> 01:38:07,470 where to start. And if I did, my note will be too long for you to 1686 01:38:07,470 --> 01:38:10,470 even read and you guys know how much I can write. And my efforts 1687 01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:13,080 to save my daughter and kids like her. I've been exposed to 1688 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,540 human trafficking, illegal drug dealers, mental health 1689 01:38:15,540 --> 01:38:18,720 institutions, social services, law enforcement, district 1690 01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,390 attorneys, politicians, all the way to Governor's School 1691 01:38:21,390 --> 01:38:24,420 Administrators, mental health and professionals and doctors 1692 01:38:24,420 --> 01:38:27,420 and psychiatrists, I can truly say all these groups with the 1693 01:38:27,420 --> 01:38:30,750 exception of law enforcement are in on the CO opting our kids 1694 01:38:30,750 --> 01:38:33,270 from their parents. Some are useful idiots for the 1695 01:38:33,270 --> 01:38:36,240 politicians and bureaucrats pushing their mouse agenda, but 1696 01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:38,580 it's the ones that are aware of what they're doing that are 1697 01:38:38,580 --> 01:38:42,300 truly despicable. So I'm gonna go to his quick list here. That 1698 01:38:42,300 --> 01:38:44,970 explains the process that happened to his daughter who was 1699 01:38:44,970 --> 01:38:48,480 able to save but it's it's a horrible story. I put it on the 1700 01:38:48,480 --> 01:38:50,520 show notes. I've taken out everybody's names and these 1701 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:56,490 notes. Here's here's the process that he calls legalizing state 1702 01:38:56,490 --> 01:38:59,970 sponsored genital mutilation. One higher radical teachers for 1703 01:38:59,970 --> 01:39:04,320 indoctrination, reduce age of Colorado, reduce age of consent 1704 01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:08,580 for medical care, like abortions to 15 without parental consent. 1705 01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,970 allow children to consent for medical care at 12. Without 1706 01:39:11,970 --> 01:39:15,120 parent knowledge or consent passed laws requiring state 1707 01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:19,050 employees including teachers to use any bizarre pronoun, offer 1708 01:39:19,050 --> 01:39:21,600 medical and mental health care in schools without parental 1709 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:25,530 consent. Governor encourages kids to inject mRNA poison in 1710 01:39:25,530 --> 01:39:29,160 their bodies without parental consent, require mental health 1711 01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,460 assessment for kids 12 and older, overriding parental 1712 01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:36,750 objections and not informing parents of any care after birth 1713 01:39:36,750 --> 01:39:40,320 abortions for kids as young as 12 without parental consent also 1714 01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:43,710 come to Colorado and will abort your baby genital mutilation and 1715 01:39:43,710 --> 01:39:46,170 puberty blockers for kids without parental consent in 1716 01:39:46,170 --> 01:39:49,770 violation of a UN resolution. exposing yourself to a minor is 1717 01:39:49,770 --> 01:39:53,250 now just a ticket not passed yet is lowering the age of consent 1718 01:39:53,250 --> 01:39:57,660 for sexual contact to 11 including with adults yes Pete 1719 01:39:57,660 --> 01:40:02,640 of pedophilia that he goes on and on And on on. And he he 1720 01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:06,960 saved his daughter, but it's a harrowing, harrowing story. And 1721 01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:11,580 I'm just getting, again, email after email from parents and no 1722 01:40:11,580 --> 01:40:14,250 agenda nation who have been exposed to this and are trying 1723 01:40:14,250 --> 01:40:17,610 to protect their kids. So what is it on one hand? Yes, it is 1724 01:40:17,610 --> 01:40:21,690 exactly what we've discussed. The Bill Maher said, which is 1725 01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:22,440 Maoism. 1726 01:40:22,620 --> 01:40:25,350 Unknown: Yesterday, I asked chat and GPT Are there any 1727 01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:28,710 similarities between today's woke revolution and Chairman 1728 01:40:28,710 --> 01:40:32,700 Mao's cultural revolution of the 1960s? And it wrote back how 1729 01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:41,010 long do you have? Because, again, in China, we saw how a 1730 01:40:41,010 --> 01:40:45,510 revolutionary thought he could do a page one rewrite of humans 1731 01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:51,540 now ordered his citizens to throw off the four olds, old 1732 01:40:51,540 --> 01:40:56,970 thinking old culture, old customs and old habits. So your 1733 01:40:56,970 --> 01:41:00,690 whole life went in the garbage overnight, no biggie. And those 1734 01:41:00,690 --> 01:41:05,010 who resisted, were attacked by an army of purifiers called the 1735 01:41:05,010 --> 01:41:09,750 Red Guard who went around the country putting dunce caps on 1736 01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:13,500 people. Yeah, who didn't take to being a new kind of mortal 1737 01:41:13,500 --> 01:41:17,550 being. A lot of pointing and shaming went on. Oh, and about a 1738 01:41:17,550 --> 01:41:22,050 million dead. And the only way to survive was to plead insanity 1739 01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,260 for the crime of being insufficiently radical then 1740 01:41:25,260 --> 01:41:28,500 apologize and thank the state and of course submit to re 1741 01:41:28,500 --> 01:41:32,730 education or as we call it here in America freshman orientation. 1742 01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,270 Adam Curry: So even Bill Maher sees what's going on? And yes, 1743 01:41:39,270 --> 01:41:44,010 it is. It is to a great degree political as our parent their 1744 01:41:44,010 --> 01:41:49,950 points out that the politicians anything, anything to make the 1745 01:41:49,950 --> 01:41:55,560 Republicans look the worst. Anything call them Christian. 1746 01:41:56,940 --> 01:42:01,950 Was it. Christian radicals? No, not radicals? No, it was not 1747 01:42:04,110 --> 01:42:09,090 fascist, Christian fascist. No anti trans legislation. They 1748 01:42:09,090 --> 01:42:12,030 hate children, because this is gender affirming care. Well, you 1749 01:42:12,030 --> 01:42:15,870 just heard from that young girl what gender affirming care is, 1750 01:42:15,870 --> 01:42:20,520 but now we go to Dr. Meg Meeker 's podcast just to you one clip 1751 01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:25,950 from from her. And she is talking to Irene Erickson. And 1752 01:42:25,950 --> 01:42:28,950 this is, as she asked a question, which I think is a 1753 01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:33,330 pretty good one. Why is this really happening in America? As 1754 01:42:33,330 --> 01:42:36,750 we know, this is being stopped in other countries, 1755 01:42:36,990 --> 01:42:39,930 specifically, the countries where it started, which was the 1756 01:42:39,930 --> 01:42:44,190 Netherlands but Sweden, France, the UK? So what is going on? Why 1757 01:42:44,190 --> 01:42:46,980 is this happening to this degree in the United States, 1758 01:42:47,009 --> 01:42:49,739 Unknown: honestly, and truly, I've been practicing for 30 some 1759 01:42:49,739 --> 01:42:57,689 years. And I think maybe in 25 years, I saw one genuine 1760 01:42:57,749 --> 01:43:02,579 transgender child, but something happened in the US and there was 1761 01:43:02,609 --> 01:43:06,089 an explosion, and we'll talk about that a little bit later. 1762 01:43:06,539 --> 01:43:09,869 Why does the US approach it differently than other 1763 01:43:09,869 --> 01:43:10,709 countries? 1764 01:43:11,220 --> 01:43:14,580 That's a great question. It's a great question. 1765 01:43:14,820 --> 01:43:16,980 Adam Curry: And in fact, may actually be the only great 1766 01:43:16,980 --> 01:43:18,060 question that 1767 01:43:18,570 --> 01:43:22,050 Unknown: is political is my observation. It's not based on 1768 01:43:22,050 --> 01:43:25,800 the on the science, in fact that you know that the United Kingdom 1769 01:43:26,010 --> 01:43:30,390 had the largest pediatric gender clinic in the world, the 1770 01:43:30,390 --> 01:43:35,640 Tavistock clinic, and they commissioned an independent 1771 01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:39,480 review of the research evidence about this kind of protocol that 1772 01:43:39,480 --> 01:43:44,760 I just described, and what were the effects? And what was the 1773 01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:48,450 evidence, how good was the research evidence in terms of 1774 01:43:48,450 --> 01:43:51,720 quality, and based on their review, just in the last two 1775 01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:57,480 months, they have done a 180 degree, turn around, they've 1776 01:43:57,480 --> 01:44:01,680 closed that clinic, and they have said, we do not recommend 1777 01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,380 this is the National Health Service in Great Britain, we do 1778 01:44:04,380 --> 01:44:08,880 not recommend social transition for children and we are not 1779 01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:12,630 going to prescribe puberty blockers or cross sex hormones, 1780 01:44:13,020 --> 01:44:18,120 or surgery for minors, unless they are part of a study we have 1781 01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:23,220 approved that is set up to evaluate the effects. And this 1782 01:44:23,220 --> 01:44:28,950 same kind of a cautionary approach is seen in Sweden. Just 1783 01:44:28,950 --> 01:44:33,690 to quote you what the Swedish National Board of Health says, 1784 01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:37,320 For adolescents the risks of puberty suppressing treatment 1785 01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:40,200 and gender affirming hormonal treatments are currently 1786 01:44:40,230 --> 01:44:44,580 outweigh the possible benefits based on continued lack of 1787 01:44:44,580 --> 01:44:48,780 reliable scientific evidence concerning the efficacy and the 1788 01:44:48,780 --> 01:44:53,640 safety of both treatments. So the US is really out of step now 1789 01:44:53,820 --> 01:44:58,830 with what's happening internationally. And, you know, 1790 01:44:59,190 --> 01:45:01,380 it does beg the question of why. 1791 01:45:01,950 --> 01:45:04,590 Adam Curry: So she says it's political. And of course it is. 1792 01:45:04,590 --> 01:45:08,280 But it's the schools where this is all starting. And I took a 1793 01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,920 deep dive because I want to know about the studies because 1794 01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:15,030 everywhere I read from the New York Times, via gender affirming 1795 01:45:15,030 --> 01:45:21,120 medical care has been proven, proven to be very beneficial. So 1796 01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:26,640 I found an article from Psychology Today because it is 1797 01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:29,700 the therapist, it's the therapists who are reeling these 1798 01:45:29,700 --> 01:45:34,830 children in, if they don't care therapist, and this is it. This 1799 01:45:34,830 --> 01:45:37,710 is from the New York Times pointed to from the New York 1800 01:45:37,710 --> 01:45:41,130 Times as the evidence for trans youth gender affirming medical 1801 01:45:41,130 --> 01:45:46,890 care. Research suggests gender affirming medical care results 1802 01:45:47,100 --> 01:45:50,910 in better mental health 16 studies to date have been 1803 01:45:50,910 --> 01:45:54,720 examined the examining the impact of gender affirming 1804 01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:58,830 medical care for transgender youth, existing evidence 1805 01:45:58,860 --> 01:46:02,670 suggests that gender affirming medical care results in 1806 01:46:02,670 --> 01:46:07,560 favorable mental health outcomes. All all major medical 1807 01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:12,330 organizations oppose legislation that would ban gender affirming 1808 01:46:12,330 --> 01:46:17,970 medical care for chant transgender adolescence. John, 1809 01:46:18,540 --> 01:46:23,730 every single one of these studies, is from 2020. Every 1810 01:46:23,730 --> 01:46:30,510 single one, and all of them with 55 people, 60 people, they're 1811 01:46:30,510 --> 01:46:36,000 all from 2020, all during the lockdown, not a single one. Has 1812 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:41,640 any has been studied anything earlier than 2020. This and with 1813 01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:47,340 this, they say Oh, well, but you know, that's enough. One will 1814 01:46:47,340 --> 01:46:50,970 notice this article says there have not been any randomized 1815 01:46:50,970 --> 01:46:55,290 controlled trials. Oh, but it still sounds like it's a valid 1816 01:46:55,290 --> 01:46:59,520 trial. There's a general consensus in the field that such 1817 01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:03,420 a trial would be unethical given the body of literature we have 1818 01:47:03,420 --> 01:47:07,680 so far indicating that those in the control group will be likely 1819 01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:11,250 to suffer adverse mental health outcomes compared to those 1820 01:47:11,250 --> 01:47:15,180 randomized to the treatment groups. For this reason, it 1821 01:47:15,180 --> 01:47:18,060 appears that no institutional review board would approve a 1822 01:47:18,060 --> 01:47:21,540 randomized controlled trial at this time, under the principle 1823 01:47:21,540 --> 01:47:27,600 of equipoise equipoise to which some bioethicists refer. I don't 1824 01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,300 know what that all means, but it seems to me like these trials 1825 01:47:30,300 --> 01:47:34,230 are bull. In summary, I'd 1826 01:47:34,230 --> 01:47:36,900 John C Dvorak: have to look at the trials and who paid for him 1827 01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:41,280 to get a real handle on it, I believe. 1828 01:47:43,980 --> 01:47:48,210 Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, I did not I did not go that deep. But if 1829 01:47:48,210 --> 01:47:56,070 you look at the the synopsis here a lot of them are Dutch 1830 01:47:56,100 --> 01:47:58,650 puberty suppression and adolescents with gender identity 1831 01:47:58,650 --> 01:48:01,710 disorder as prospect follow up study, Journal of Sexual 1832 01:48:01,710 --> 01:48:07,080 Medicine, okay, by on what that is. Young adults, psychological 1833 01:48:07,110 --> 01:48:09,210 outcome after puberty, suppression and gender 1834 01:48:09,210 --> 01:48:15,540 reassignment, pediatrics, psycho psychological support, puberty 1835 01:48:15,540 --> 01:48:18,660 suppression, and psycho psycho social functioning in 1836 01:48:18,660 --> 01:48:23,640 adolescence. It's all Journal of Sexual Medicine. So, 1837 01:48:23,700 --> 01:48:25,920 John C Dvorak: you know, but all in is the exact same journal. 1838 01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:27,660 There's no outside journals. 1839 01:48:27,870 --> 01:48:30,300 Adam Curry: There. Here's the Nordic Journal of Psychiatry, 1840 01:48:30,300 --> 01:48:33,420 it's all psychological. They're not. That doesn't seem to even 1841 01:48:33,420 --> 01:48:40,170 be medical trials. It's all about the psychology. But that's 1842 01:48:40,170 --> 01:48:42,960 what the New York Times points to is proof that this stuff 1843 01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:47,430 works. And it's great. So I'm very, very skeptical, 1844 01:48:47,460 --> 01:48:50,790 particularly because if not, we've there had been people 1845 01:48:50,790 --> 01:48:53,280 transitioning having what used to be called a sex change 1846 01:48:53,280 --> 01:49:00,240 operation for decades. But no, none of that seems to be very 1847 01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:05,400 important. And then we have the media. We have the media, and I 1848 01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:08,100 played I got a great deconstruction from one of our 1849 01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:12,960 producers. I want to play this Kara Swisher clip again. Because 1850 01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,780 you know, she's a lesbian. So you know, she's she's an expert 1851 01:49:15,780 --> 01:49:18,660 on all things. And of course, she takes us all to the 1852 01:49:18,660 --> 01:49:21,240 political realm as well, just to play replay this from the last 1853 01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:22,290 show. And the other thing 1854 01:49:22,290 --> 01:49:25,800 Unknown: is, did he just I think underestimated. Florida has a 1855 01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:30,840 really robust and wonderful gay community. And they drive a lot 1856 01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:34,170 of business. There's, I mean, there's whole parts. I've spent 1857 01:49:34,170 --> 01:49:37,320 a lot of time in Key West and the gay community is thriving 1858 01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:40,980 there and I just can't at some point the demo and democracy 1859 01:49:40,980 --> 01:49:42,060 does kick in here. 1860 01:49:42,090 --> 01:49:45,150 One would assume but I'm thinking of the why Mar Republic 1861 01:49:45,150 --> 01:49:47,910 where it was a huge Berlin gay community and then they killed 1862 01:49:47,910 --> 01:49:51,030 them. So you know, I think it could go a lot of terrible ways, 1863 01:49:51,030 --> 01:49:52,860 but I would agree this is dumb. This is so 1864 01:49:53,070 --> 01:49:54,240 escalated fast. 1865 01:49:57,690 --> 01:50:00,360 Haven't you seen cabaret? Haven't you'd seen it? Every 1866 01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:01,410 Berlin stories. 1867 01:50:01,470 --> 01:50:05,970 Yeah, you're right. People think it couldn't happen here. I can I 1868 01:50:05,970 --> 01:50:06,450 agree. 1869 01:50:06,810 --> 01:50:11,520 They can come at you. But I do not think that that's where the 1870 01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,190 country is in a different way from much. We've have obviously 1871 01:50:14,190 --> 01:50:17,760 a much more vibrant democracy, a much more diverse democracy than 1872 01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,580 they hadn't Weimar Republic, and they had all kinds of economic 1873 01:50:20,580 --> 01:50:23,700 issues, postwar, fall kinds of differences, but they can come 1874 01:50:23,700 --> 01:50:26,730 at you. When I when I told you they were going to come at 12th 1875 01:50:26,730 --> 01:50:29,700 graders, you'd said no, they're not as young kids. And I was 1876 01:50:29,700 --> 01:50:32,940 like, no, they're not. It's everybody they're trying to do 1877 01:50:32,940 --> 01:50:36,330 trying to win what they lost back. And they will do they will 1878 01:50:36,330 --> 01:50:39,090 stop at nothing. They never go away. They're like mold these 1879 01:50:39,090 --> 01:50:39,510 people. 1880 01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:41,910 Adam Curry: So our producer sends me this short note which I 1881 01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:45,300 wanted to share because I think he did a much better job than we 1882 01:50:45,300 --> 01:50:48,780 did on deconstructing what this woman said. I'm listening to the 1883 01:50:48,780 --> 01:50:51,450 podcast just heard the Swisher Galloway clip and the psychology 1884 01:50:51,450 --> 01:50:54,480 of it disturbed me. First of all, she mentioned the gay 1885 01:50:54,480 --> 01:50:57,840 community in Weimar, Germany was thriving, and then they killed 1886 01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:01,590 them. This is incorrect. The Republic had laws against 1887 01:51:01,590 --> 01:51:04,290 homosexuality, but they were rarely enforced, hence the 1888 01:51:04,290 --> 01:51:08,130 thriving community. It was the Nazis who killed the gays 1889 01:51:08,130 --> 01:51:11,580 shortly after their rise to power, not the why Mr. Republic. 1890 01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:15,270 So the comparison to Florida is actually very apt. Since the 1891 01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:18,870 thriving community there is not in danger from Florida, but from 1892 01:51:18,870 --> 01:51:22,470 the people trying to subvert Florida. Moreover, she then went 1893 01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:25,560 on to describe her political opponents by saying they never 1894 01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:29,700 go away. They're like mold of these people. That is exactly 1895 01:51:29,700 --> 01:51:33,510 the way Hitler talked about his victims. In his books and his 1896 01:51:33,510 --> 01:51:36,360 speeches, he always referred to them as an infection or 1897 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,750 infestation that needed to be cleansed. This woman is deeply 1898 01:51:39,750 --> 01:51:41,940 disturbed and should be surrounded by trained 1899 01:51:41,940 --> 01:51:44,940 professionals with butterfly nets before her career in art 1900 01:51:44,940 --> 01:51:45,690 fails. 1901 01:51:48,030 --> 01:51:49,890 A Jhansi Dvorak protege I'm right had 1902 01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:58,560 John C Dvorak: blaming me for everything. So yes, yeah, good 1903 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:03,630 points is it's a that's a good analysis. I agree with it. 1904 01:52:05,220 --> 01:52:08,130 Adam Curry: Then I have just a few more follow ups here. 1905 01:52:08,130 --> 01:52:12,450 Because, you know, as we pointed out, this also really does come 1906 01:52:12,450 --> 01:52:19,170 from during the lockdown when kids were on screens, screen 1907 01:52:19,170 --> 01:52:22,980 screen screens. And this is where they got subverted. They 1908 01:52:22,980 --> 01:52:27,270 got subverted by social media. And they were they were booked. 1909 01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:29,820 Do you think the parents were not feeling good in the 1910 01:52:29,820 --> 01:52:35,130 lockdown? No, everyone felt very anxious. And then then they 1911 01:52:35,130 --> 01:52:38,160 didn't feel good. And teenage girls already have problems with 1912 01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:41,010 feeling good about themselves. And they were subverted by it. 1913 01:52:41,580 --> 01:52:41,970 Unknown: Yes, I 1914 01:52:41,970 --> 01:52:44,520 John C Dvorak: want to ask you a bit while you're out just before 1915 01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:52,290 you do this. Because it comes to mind. A rhetorical question. The 1916 01:52:52,290 --> 01:52:56,070 commentary about the kids on screens during the lockdown and 1917 01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:59,160 not going to school, not going to school, not going to class, 1918 01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,920 not socializing. But they're being on the screen all the 1919 01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,770 time. They're on at home homeschooling, they were getting 1920 01:53:04,770 --> 01:53:08,670 their lessons. They were getting the teachers were there. They 1921 01:53:08,670 --> 01:53:11,520 were telling him to do this and read this and do that and do 1922 01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:16,440 this and that. And it turns out that all you hear now is Oh, 1923 01:53:16,830 --> 01:53:22,590 because of that the kids are two years behind. So in other words, 1924 01:53:23,130 --> 01:53:26,970 this screen time and all the learning from home and all the 1925 01:53:26,970 --> 01:53:33,450 rest of it was useless. Then if that's true, which is seems to 1926 01:53:33,450 --> 01:53:36,600 be that's what they're complaining about, then why is 1927 01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:43,110 working from home so good, boo. It's not. It can't be not if you 1928 01:53:43,110 --> 01:53:45,480 base it on what happened during that lockdown. 1929 01:53:46,740 --> 01:53:51,510 Adam Curry: We had. This was last summer, one of the one of 1930 01:53:51,510 --> 01:53:54,900 the daughters was visiting and she had some of her friends from 1931 01:53:54,900 --> 01:53:58,290 New York. They also were in Austin for some reason. And 1932 01:53:58,290 --> 01:54:01,410 these, I think, like three guys, probably two of them two or 1933 01:54:01,410 --> 01:54:03,900 three, or maybe all three gay, I don't know. But they were like, 1934 01:54:03,900 --> 01:54:10,230 you know, lawyers. Like high end like intellectual jobs, and they 1935 01:54:10,230 --> 01:54:13,260 came out and they're hanging out in the pool. And they literally 1936 01:54:13,290 --> 01:54:16,350 would set their laptops up because they were working from 1937 01:54:16,350 --> 01:54:19,020 home. They set up their laptops, and they had all these little 1938 01:54:19,020 --> 01:54:21,420 programs that move the mouse to make it look like they were 1939 01:54:21,420 --> 01:54:27,960 working. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Isn't that cool? Oh, yeah, it's very 1940 01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:30,360 fun, from time to time to go and just even you know, do a little 1941 01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:33,090 something open a document just to make sure that look like 1942 01:54:33,090 --> 01:54:35,820 because you know, it's all tracked by it. And we got a note 1943 01:54:35,820 --> 01:54:38,760 from Alex Jennison. Want to follow up a couple items at the 1944 01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:43,050 school I work at in New York, New York State is ot jeep. Off 1945 01:54:43,050 --> 01:54:47,070 the Grid. Families of students must pledge to limit smart 1946 01:54:47,070 --> 01:54:51,210 devices, time time spent on them, etc. Many of our students 1947 01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:54,240 even high school, this is northern Academy. Many of our 1948 01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:57,090 students even high schoolers have zero access to social 1949 01:54:57,090 --> 01:55:00,780 media. We are even punishing to limit laptops. pushing to limit 1950 01:55:00,780 --> 01:55:04,050 locked laptops in the classroom and return to books and paper. 1951 01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:07,500 Check us out at North academy.org. In my five years 1952 01:55:07,500 --> 01:55:12,330 here we've had in total, one suicide less than five students 1953 01:55:12,330 --> 01:55:17,460 medicated for add ADHD, depression, etc. Zero students 1954 01:55:17,460 --> 01:55:23,430 on IEP plans. I don't know what that what is IEP. All students 1955 01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:26,490 learn together, look it up, it's probably for special ed, I look 1956 01:55:26,490 --> 01:55:29,880 it up, I look at it IEP plans, all students learn together. And 1957 01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:32,970 we do not discriminate based on diagnosis or perceived 1958 01:55:32,970 --> 01:55:37,980 differences. Zero trans in students, zero trans students. 1959 01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:40,650 John C Dvorak: If there's not even come up in class ever. As 1960 01:55:40,650 --> 01:55:42,870 far as I know, we've had one student who identified as 1961 01:55:42,870 --> 01:55:46,950 homosexual, again accepted but not promoted. The individualized 1962 01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:49,860 education plan. There you go. Being doctrine developed to 1963 01:55:49,860 --> 01:55:52,530 ensure a child who has a disability identified under the 1964 01:55:52,530 --> 01:55:55,020 law and is attending an Elementary Secondary of kids for 1965 01:55:55,050 --> 01:55:56,370 this for the disabled kids. 1966 01:55:56,610 --> 01:55:59,640 Adam Curry: We are a boarding and day school, send your kids 1967 01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,190 but really any parents who are interested can reach out to me 1968 01:56:02,190 --> 01:56:07,740 on Mastodon and it's breakfasty at no agenda social.com br A br 1969 01:56:07,740 --> 01:56:13,440 a HPHECY. Let's help save the 850,000 listeners in their 1970 01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:16,080 children. I wholeheartedly believe our schools here in New 1971 01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:18,780 York can help change some of these trends. So just so you 1972 01:56:18,780 --> 01:56:22,620 know, that by the way, it's probably an Epoch Times NTD 1973 01:56:22,620 --> 01:56:27,690 related outfit, because they know how bad it can be. This is 1974 01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:31,050 so they have almost none of the issues that we hear of that are 1975 01:56:31,050 --> 01:56:36,030 rampant without the screens. This is without the screens. So 1976 01:56:36,060 --> 01:56:38,820 we have another email from Mason, I heard the show want to 1977 01:56:38,820 --> 01:56:41,160 share my experience around children's screens and phones. 1978 01:56:41,460 --> 01:56:44,370 My wife and I have a 20 month old son who has kept almost 1979 01:56:44,370 --> 01:56:48,240 entirely screen free no children shows no YouTube, no phones, no 1980 01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:51,930 iPads. Only screen use would be when we have a sports game on 1981 01:56:51,930 --> 01:56:54,900 but he isn't interested in that 20 month old, we've noticed that 1982 01:56:54,900 --> 01:56:57,450 he's less interested in our phones and other toddlers we've 1983 01:56:57,450 --> 01:57:00,990 seen perhaps because he doesn't know all the fun things a phone 1984 01:57:00,990 --> 01:57:04,260 can have. Having said that he is still interested in our phones, 1985 01:57:04,260 --> 01:57:06,870 because we're interested because we're interested in our phones, 1986 01:57:07,050 --> 01:57:10,500 he is clearly picking up on it. Quick note on low screen kids, 1987 01:57:10,530 --> 01:57:13,800 almost everyone who meets our son comments on his ability to 1988 01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:17,490 play creatively with simple toys by himself and his engagement 1989 01:57:17,490 --> 01:57:20,730 with us and other adults. It's hard not to use screens as a 1990 01:57:20,730 --> 01:57:23,940 crutch with kids and it takes purpose. But there are very real 1991 01:57:23,940 --> 01:57:27,690 benefits start showing up almost immediately. And you're come 1992 01:57:27,690 --> 01:57:30,240 several weeks ago after seeing him more and more interested in 1993 01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:34,560 my phone, I switched to a light phone to the light phone.com and 1994 01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:38,430 put my iPhone in a drawer. I did this both to unhook myself from 1995 01:57:38,430 --> 01:57:42,330 my device as well as to help my son have a normal life abnormal 1996 01:57:42,330 --> 01:57:45,330 by today's standards. The results have been immediate for 1997 01:57:45,330 --> 01:57:48,870 both of us, I'm less interested in my phone, and he's not 1998 01:57:48,870 --> 01:57:52,710 interested at all, the phone has a black and white E Ink screen 1999 01:57:52,710 --> 01:57:55,680 very limited functionality. So there's no draw for me or for 2000 01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:58,650 the child, I was anxious to switch at first. But after 2001 01:57:58,650 --> 01:58:01,260 getting it up and running, I felt immediately freed from it 2002 01:58:01,260 --> 01:58:04,620 all I share this because the light phone might be a good tool 2003 01:58:04,620 --> 01:58:07,950 for others and get donation both in curbing their own addictions 2004 01:58:07,950 --> 01:58:10,830 to these apps and for allowing older kids to have the ability 2005 01:58:10,950 --> 01:58:14,190 to communicate without giving them access to anything online. 2006 01:58:15,630 --> 01:58:18,360 So I ordered one, I ordered a low light phone and when it 2007 01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:21,090 comes in, I'll do a full review. But I think we've talked about 2008 01:58:21,090 --> 01:58:25,650 it before and the OTG days. And I'm thinking if you want to save 2009 01:58:25,650 --> 01:58:29,280 your child here, here, here's a list of things that I would like 2010 01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:32,970 to suggest you give to your kids. I like phone too, because 2011 01:58:32,970 --> 01:58:36,480 you can call you can text and it's not you know, punching in 2012 01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:40,140 the number five times it has a little actual keyboard. And 2013 01:58:40,140 --> 01:58:43,830 there's no no camera. It does have directions, you can listen 2014 01:58:43,830 --> 01:58:48,780 to podcasts, and you can use it as a hotspot. And with that give 2015 01:58:48,780 --> 01:58:52,680 your kid a laptop. Teach your kid how to put Linux Mint on it 2016 01:58:52,710 --> 01:58:55,830 to the kid has an understanding that you control the device does 2017 01:58:55,830 --> 01:58:59,820 not control you. Give your kid a high quality standalone camera. 2018 01:58:59,820 --> 01:59:03,210 John, would you like to give any? Any suggestions because you 2019 01:59:03,210 --> 01:59:04,890 you always use these cameras? 2020 01:59:05,850 --> 01:59:08,850 John C Dvorak: Well any camera from Olympus I'd say would be a 2021 01:59:08,850 --> 01:59:12,360 good standalone camera little ones. Or if you want to just you 2022 01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:16,590 know bite the bullet and buy a Nikon one of the ones using an 2023 01:59:16,590 --> 01:59:22,710 AP SC one of the bigger sensors but a Four Thirds sensor is also 2024 01:59:22,710 --> 01:59:26,010 good or full frame but those costs too much. So forget that 2025 01:59:26,010 --> 01:59:26,220 just 2026 01:59:26,220 --> 01:59:27,690 Adam Curry: a little thing you put in your pocket and you have 2027 01:59:27,690 --> 01:59:27,810 the 2028 01:59:30,060 --> 01:59:31,710 John C Dvorak: million of these and then 2029 01:59:31,710 --> 01:59:34,110 Adam Curry: you take it home then you blowed it onto your 2030 01:59:34,110 --> 01:59:37,320 laptop with Linux Mint and you can choose stuff and then 2031 01:59:37,500 --> 01:59:40,140 John C Dvorak: apparently it takes a better picture generally 2032 01:59:40,140 --> 01:59:42,600 speaking than a phone can Yeah, but it's generally 2033 01:59:42,630 --> 01:59:44,190 Adam Curry: you can take pictures but you're not doing 2034 01:59:44,190 --> 01:59:49,260 selfies, not doing selfies and you can't get on social media. 2035 01:59:50,370 --> 01:59:54,540 Then parents I would recommend you look at an unroll or start 2036 01:59:54,540 --> 01:59:57,270 nine home server um so you can give your kid you know, some 2037 01:59:57,270 --> 01:59:59,550 some stuff that you know they're gonna have their own little chat 2038 01:59:59,550 --> 02:00:02,250 room in there. friends that you can monitor. And if you don't 2039 02:00:02,250 --> 02:00:07,410 know what that is go to get umbral.com It's all free, then 2040 02:00:07,410 --> 02:00:11,160 you should also give your kid a handheld, two meter ham radio. 2041 02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:15,420 And both of you take the test, take the test. I mean those, 2042 02:00:15,450 --> 02:00:19,800 take the test, take the test, and you should encourage their 2043 02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:22,440 friends to do this so they can talk to each other over 2044 02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:26,310 distances. Because $35 for these little things, give them a 2045 02:00:26,310 --> 02:00:31,290 library card. Get them a dog and an AR 15 and teach them how to 2046 02:00:31,290 --> 02:00:31,920 use it 2047 02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:34,410 John C Dvorak: in probably a pocket protector. 2048 02:00:35,670 --> 02:00:37,200 Unknown: Yeah, okay, it's fine. You're gonna 2049 02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:38,970 John C Dvorak: be a ham. You might as well have one 2050 02:00:39,060 --> 02:00:42,390 Adam Curry: I would rather my kid be a nerd than then then any 2051 02:00:42,390 --> 02:00:46,290 any alternative, any alternative. And then finally, 2052 02:00:46,710 --> 02:00:50,430 know that you have power to stop this insanity. And it is 2053 02:00:50,430 --> 02:00:53,700 happening. And it's unbelievable. I didn't think it 2054 02:00:53,700 --> 02:00:56,910 would. I didn't think it would happen. But the Bud Light 2055 02:00:56,910 --> 02:01:02,910 boycott is making a difference. The numbers are in sales are 2056 02:01:02,910 --> 02:01:08,040 down 26% There's a poll done. I'm not big on polls. This is a 2057 02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:11,850 Rasmussen poll, which is also of course, like a bright wing right 2058 02:01:11,850 --> 02:01:18,390 leaning outfit. But the numbers are clear. That Budweiser and 2059 02:01:18,390 --> 02:01:22,770 Bud Light is suffering significantly. They cannot bring 2060 02:01:22,770 --> 02:01:27,000 themselves to apologize. I mean, I went out was talking to my 2061 02:01:27,750 --> 02:01:31,260 John C Dvorak: buddy stop. This is this is an interesting point. 2062 02:01:32,820 --> 02:01:37,020 They can't bring themselves to apologize. They're afraid 2063 02:01:37,020 --> 02:01:41,010 they're going to offend someone by apologizing. Yep. We didn't 2064 02:01:41,010 --> 02:01:43,410 do anything wrong. Well, that's 2065 02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:44,700 Adam Curry: that's that's the worst 2066 02:01:44,700 --> 02:01:45,270 Unknown: part. 2067 02:01:47,610 --> 02:01:49,560 Adam Curry: They're, you know, they're they're saying well, you 2068 02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:52,740 know, it was just one single can that remember we've talked about 2069 02:01:52,740 --> 02:01:55,140 this it's the it's the distributors the local 2070 02:01:55,140 --> 02:01:58,740 distributors own the business. And these people are mad. 2071 02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:03,150 Because they the bars are saying no, no, I'm not on one Bud 2072 02:02:03,150 --> 02:02:07,470 Light. We're boycotting them. Tommy, who helped me we lost a 2073 02:02:07,470 --> 02:02:11,880 tree during that big storm. He's he comes over with his with his 2074 02:02:12,150 --> 02:02:14,460 chainsaw and he's gonna go out and talk with Tom. He's from 2075 02:02:14,460 --> 02:02:18,510 Waco. Originally. The N and they Oh, no, I'm not. I'm not 2076 02:02:18,510 --> 02:02:20,850 drinking Bud Light. says you know what else I'm not doing? 2077 02:02:20,850 --> 02:02:25,620 I'm not I'm not buying Nike shoes anymore. And Tommy is 63 2078 02:02:25,740 --> 02:02:30,180 Amy has his helper Ryan he's 28 and Ryan's out nope, nope, nope. 2079 02:02:30,210 --> 02:02:31,170 Nope. Not doing it. 2080 02:02:31,650 --> 02:02:33,750 John C Dvorak: Were they Bud Light drinkers before 2081 02:02:33,900 --> 02:02:35,310 Adam Curry: they were but what they were they would drink 2082 02:02:35,310 --> 02:02:37,320 Budweiser I don't know if they drank Bud Light but they're 2083 02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:40,560 boycotting all Budweiser products and all I know is 2084 02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,980 Anheuser Busch products in general and they know it they 2085 02:02:43,980 --> 02:02:47,940 know exactly what beers are under the InBev brand and the 2086 02:02:47,940 --> 02:02:51,900 nope know what screw those guys and they're taking and they're 2087 02:02:51,900 --> 02:02:56,700 taking a stand and it's working is working and this and what's 2088 02:02:56,700 --> 02:03:01,560 happening is now the marketing community they are freaking out 2089 02:03:01,890 --> 02:03:08,700 because influencers that was the business oh yeah influencers wow 2090 02:03:08,700 --> 02:03:11,010 they're all over Tik Tok. They're all over Instagram 2091 02:03:11,010 --> 02:03:13,890 they're Oh, he has his how we get our word out but all and 2092 02:03:13,890 --> 02:03:17,700 that's why they gave this stupid Dylan Mulvaney Yeah, his own can 2093 02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:19,620 he could tout that 2094 02:03:21,810 --> 02:03:22,770 Unknown: you blow your nose. 2095 02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:28,080 Adam Curry: And, and now all of these marketing departments can 2096 02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:30,660 be like holy crap, because you know the VP of Marketing at bud 2097 02:03:30,660 --> 02:03:35,550 got fired. She's on leave now she got fired, then it was not 2098 02:03:35,550 --> 02:03:38,640 it was not even the Denon Mulvaney thing so much. It was 2099 02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:41,970 the well, it's a tired old arrogance. ratty brand. Yeah, 2100 02:03:41,970 --> 02:03:42,150 the 2101 02:03:42,150 --> 02:03:45,060 John C Dvorak: arrogance, the arrogance of it, then marketing 2102 02:03:45,060 --> 02:03:46,530 arrogance is the worst, the 2103 02:03:46,530 --> 02:03:51,120 Adam Curry: incredible arrogance of it all. And so keep it up 2104 02:03:51,150 --> 02:03:55,710 boycott. This is this is the American power. And I don't know 2105 02:03:55,710 --> 02:03:59,970 if Anheuser Busch can recover. Because this is this is 2106 02:03:59,970 --> 02:04:03,510 sticking. This is sticking and Coors and other brands that are 2107 02:04:03,510 --> 02:04:09,660 non InBev are mysteriously going up. It's really going up now. So 2108 02:04:09,660 --> 02:04:12,420 with all this, of course, you know, what do you do about all 2109 02:04:12,420 --> 02:04:16,620 what I mean? It's social media is the problem. screen phones 2110 02:04:16,620 --> 02:04:19,980 are the problem. There's there's an article Gen Z years are 2111 02:04:19,980 --> 02:04:23,700 snapping up flip phones, Wall Street Journal. You know, I 2112 02:04:23,700 --> 02:04:27,870 don't know, you know, we've seen these trends before, but some of 2113 02:04:27,870 --> 02:04:32,700 the kids are like, I'm sick of this stuff. So, you know, it 2114 02:04:32,700 --> 02:04:36,300 also is too expensive. The dumb phones, the light phone 299 2115 02:04:36,300 --> 02:04:40,560 Seems like a good deal. I'll do a review of that. But you know, 2116 02:04:41,340 --> 02:04:44,700 what I think ultimately, parents need to take responsibility, 2117 02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:48,000 just as this email said, they're the ones who are hooked on their 2118 02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:50,280 phones. You've got to get off your phone, you've got to get a 2119 02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:52,560 light phone. You've got to change your ways because your 2120 02:04:52,560 --> 02:04:57,630 kids are seeing it. And you need to be aware of what they're 2121 02:04:57,630 --> 02:05:00,690 doing. Be aware of the social media network. So that's why 2122 02:05:00,690 --> 02:05:03,930 don't give them a phone for it. Let them do it at home on the 2123 02:05:03,930 --> 02:05:07,140 laptops, you can look along. You look over their shoulder. Kids 2124 02:05:07,140 --> 02:05:09,270 are always gonna do weird stuff they don't know about but you 2125 02:05:09,270 --> 02:05:12,090 have to be more involved. You can't just say, No, I don't 2126 02:05:12,090 --> 02:05:15,510 understand what you're doing scrolling on about tick tock, 2127 02:05:15,510 --> 02:05:21,870 you morons. And of course, I read our legislators. They have 2128 02:05:21,870 --> 02:05:26,250 all these dumb ideas, which will now be arguing about forever 2129 02:05:26,310 --> 02:05:29,640 Unknown: a showdown over social media for kids. As the US 2130 02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:33,270 Federal Trade Commission accuses Mehta parent company of Facebook 2131 02:05:33,270 --> 02:05:36,840 and Instagram of misusing the personal data of its youngest 2132 02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:37,620 users. 2133 02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:41,910 Facebook has repeatedly violated its privacy promises, the 2134 02:05:41,910 --> 02:05:45,180 company's recklessness has put young users at risk, and 2135 02:05:45,180 --> 02:05:47,550 Facebook needs to answer for its failures. 2136 02:05:48,270 --> 02:05:53,040 In 2019, Facebook agreed to pay a $5 billion civil penalty over 2137 02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:56,160 data privacy practices in the wake of the Cambridge analytical 2138 02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:59,940 scandal. The FTC though says the company has not lived up to its 2139 02:05:59,940 --> 02:06:03,360 commitments in that settlement, alleging that children under 13 2140 02:06:03,390 --> 02:06:06,600 are still able to chat with parentally unapproved contacts, 2141 02:06:06,810 --> 02:06:10,080 and that the company is still passing private data to unused 2142 02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:14,520 third party apps. It's proposed sanctions include a total ban on 2143 02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:18,210 meta monetizing the data of under eight teams a pause on the 2144 02:06:18,210 --> 02:06:21,870 launch of new products pending compliance review and limits on 2145 02:06:21,870 --> 02:06:25,260 the use of facial recognition technology. Meanwhile, a 2146 02:06:25,260 --> 02:06:29,160 bipartisan group of US Senators is calling for a total ban on 2147 02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:31,500 social media for kids 12 And under 2148 02:06:31,710 --> 02:06:34,560 the technology industry is going to find all sorts of innovative 2149 02:06:34,560 --> 02:06:38,070 ways to try to squash this bill because you know, this is their 2150 02:06:38,670 --> 02:06:43,680 this is their profit center our kids and promoting really 2151 02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:45,750 dangerous content often to our kids, 2152 02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:49,650 medicines. The FTC is latest move is a political stunt 2153 02:06:49,710 --> 02:06:52,950 accusing the regulator of overstepping its authority the 2154 02:06:52,950 --> 02:06:55,980 company has 30 days to formally respond 2155 02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:58,200 Adam Curry: and the reason why none of this works now this will 2156 02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:01,500 happen and why why social networks and social media is 2157 02:07:01,500 --> 02:07:05,070 always going to be around is because the lib Jo's love it. 2158 02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:09,450 The liberal journalists love all journalist probably but the lib 2159 02:07:09,450 --> 02:07:13,770 Jo's of the worst though we live and we're not Ill screw Ilan, 2160 02:07:13,770 --> 02:07:17,430 we're going to mess it down. And then there were a mastodon like, 2161 02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:21,510 well, we don't we kneel. It's not exactly the way we like it. 2162 02:07:21,510 --> 02:07:25,320 And we can't find people and we can't count all of our our views 2163 02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:29,790 and our likes. And here we go to the rescue. Jack Dorsey releases 2164 02:07:29,790 --> 02:07:32,340 blue sky Have you been following blue sky? 2165 02:07:32,820 --> 02:07:36,270 John C Dvorak: I've only heard about it. So by God, a blue sky 2166 02:07:36,660 --> 02:07:38,940 Adam Curry: invites. Thank you very much one of our producers 2167 02:07:38,940 --> 02:07:42,120 gave that to me. And I'll just give you the technical 2168 02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:44,970 background because this is not discussed blue sky, the idea of 2169 02:07:44,970 --> 02:07:49,680 blue skies it kind of works like Mastodon, where you have your 2170 02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:53,550 identity or like nostril as well. You have your identity and 2171 02:07:53,550 --> 02:07:56,310 that is yours. And you can use this day to check into different 2172 02:07:56,310 --> 02:07:59,280 neighborhoods or different servers, but you can be 2173 02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:04,260 federated across the entire platform. So not a single 2174 02:08:04,260 --> 02:08:07,620 reporters reporting on what it actually is. But what they did 2175 02:08:07,620 --> 02:08:12,540 is all Oh, this is great. This is like Twitter without Elon has 2176 02:08:12,540 --> 02:08:16,380 got an invite. Invite. Invite the 11 Invite. Oh, Jake Tapper 2177 02:08:16,380 --> 02:08:20,490 is on there. Oh, yeah. AOC is on that. Oh, yes. This is great. 2178 02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:23,790 Oh, it's an outlet everybody show her boobs. Okay, everybody 2179 02:08:23,790 --> 02:08:28,830 show your butt. Okay, the trans movement is here. And all the 2180 02:08:28,830 --> 02:08:33,240 lib Jo's love it you know why? Because you can quote tweet. 2181 02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:38,580 There all the whole platform is one lib Joe. 2182 02:08:40,350 --> 02:08:45,060 Unknown: smorgasbord. And so they're they're 2183 02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:50,250 Adam Curry: abandoning Mastodon as quick as they can. Trying to 2184 02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:53,160 build they're creating their own language. Yes, they're not 2185 02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:58,080 tweets. They're Skeets but they're not tweets. They're 2186 02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:00,540 Skeets you know, blue sky ski. 2187 02:09:00,570 --> 02:09:03,480 John C Dvorak: They're actually Daxing calling him skeet. Yes, 2188 02:09:03,570 --> 02:09:04,050 yes, I 2189 02:09:04,050 --> 02:09:05,100 Unknown: know. I know. 2190 02:09:05,340 --> 02:09:06,330 John C Dvorak: Holy moly. 2191 02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:12,030 Adam Curry: So I can just I can I have to I have to give you one 2192 02:09:12,030 --> 02:09:16,380 of my code. You must you have to witness it. This is better than 2193 02:09:16,380 --> 02:09:24,270 the secret Mastodon server we have. It is they are so insane. 2194 02:09:24,870 --> 02:09:27,390 And so they're all going to flock to this. This is the new 2195 02:09:27,420 --> 02:09:30,060 Oh, this is the new thing. It's much better than the land 2196 02:09:30,090 --> 02:09:36,060 Twitter. Jake Tapper. Skeets the AI has such a weird take on my 2197 02:09:36,060 --> 02:09:45,750 face. I mean, everyone is just gushing over how great this is. 2198 02:09:48,180 --> 02:09:50,910 And this is the new Twitter. So they're gonna 2199 02:09:50,970 --> 02:09:52,050 John C Dvorak: say we'll look into it 2200 02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:54,540 Adam Curry: now and I'll give you a give you my give me a 2201 02:09:54,540 --> 02:09:56,820 bytecode I only have one more. I'll give you my input and 2202 02:09:56,820 --> 02:10:00,360 that's in your it's a big hole. How many invite code up Well you 2203 02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:02,880 need moderation oh yeah now there's they're talking about 2204 02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:08,670 how they need to moderate so keep keep children away from 2205 02:10:08,910 --> 02:10:12,720 from journalists, I would say there's another good keep them 2206 02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:15,420 away from journalists keep them away from news in general. You 2207 02:10:15,420 --> 02:10:17,790 know what listen to the no agenda show and that'll be good 2208 02:10:17,790 --> 02:10:19,560 for him. And you know what? You know what you should teach your 2209 02:10:19,560 --> 02:10:21,900 children value for value. 2210 02:10:23,430 --> 02:10:24,660 John C Dvorak: Yeah, have them donate. 2211 02:10:28,890 --> 02:10:30,330 Adam Curry: With I'd like to thank you for your courage to 2212 02:10:30,330 --> 02:10:33,390 say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in chat GPT 2213 02:10:33,390 --> 02:10:35,280 ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end, 2214 02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:36,480 Mr. John 2215 02:10:40,620 --> 02:10:42,300 John C Dvorak: Mr. Adam curry also in the morning, little 2216 02:10:42,300 --> 02:10:45,240 ships at sea boots on the ground, feet near subs in the 2217 02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:47,610 water all the names. Let's measure them right away 2218 02:10:47,610 --> 02:10:54,210 Adam Curry: before they run away. We're late today, we only 2219 02:10:54,210 --> 02:10:57,960 have one segment. For reasons which will be obvious, although 2220 02:10:57,960 --> 02:11:02,340 we have some longer notes 1914 today. I know that doesn't seem 2221 02:11:02,340 --> 02:11:04,800 like a lot. People are abandoning us John 2222 02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:07,830 John C Dvorak: gets about 100 higher than usual. 2223 02:11:07,890 --> 02:11:09,240 Adam Curry: Oh, really? 2224 02:11:11,550 --> 02:11:13,110 John C Dvorak: But yeah, this is not Sunday. 2225 02:11:13,110 --> 02:11:14,790 Adam Curry: Oh, it's Thursday. Yeah, of course. I say well, 2226 02:11:14,820 --> 02:11:17,550 well, those are the trolls are in the troll room. And you 2227 02:11:17,550 --> 02:11:20,910 couldn't find them a troll room.io. Or if you have one of 2228 02:11:20,910 --> 02:11:24,000 those brand new podcast apps, you dump on the legacy stuff, 2229 02:11:24,150 --> 02:11:26,430 the ones where you know that your favorite podcast just might 2230 02:11:26,430 --> 02:11:29,850 go away because someone decided they didn't like it. And they 2231 02:11:29,850 --> 02:11:32,610 removed it from Spotify or Apple 2232 02:11:32,610 --> 02:11:35,040 John C Dvorak: even you know, even the guys on Spotify are all 2233 02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:39,810 saying that everybody says this app does wherever you get your 2234 02:11:39,810 --> 02:11:46,050 podcast from. Which was not to interrupt a segment. But I do 2235 02:11:46,050 --> 02:11:48,930 have a What's wrong with podcasting bit? 2236 02:11:49,500 --> 02:11:50,790 Unknown: Oh, well, let's look well, 2237 02:11:50,820 --> 02:11:52,890 Adam Curry: hold on. Let me finish this and I'm gonna play 2238 02:11:52,890 --> 02:11:55,620 the clip because that's what the donation segment is for. It's 2239 02:11:55,620 --> 02:11:59,100 for interviews with guests. And for for clips. 2240 02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:03,480 John C Dvorak: Clips, like this one. Okay, so finish what you 2241 02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:03,900 were doing. 2242 02:12:05,070 --> 02:12:09,330 Unknown: Yes, era? Yes, 2243 02:12:09,510 --> 02:12:11,730 Adam Curry: yes. Yeah, you throw me off my game. When you do that 2244 02:12:11,730 --> 02:12:16,800 stuff. Go to podcast apps.com. Grab yourself a modern podcast 2245 02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:19,890 app. Now there are a couple that have this troll room feature in 2246 02:12:19,890 --> 02:12:23,700 it. It's pod verse, curio caster, podcast addict, podcast 2247 02:12:23,700 --> 02:12:28,050 guru with more coming. And you'll be alerted just like, you 2248 02:12:28,050 --> 02:12:30,390 know, just like a bad signal and you can pop right in all your 2249 02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:33,360 podcasts will be there, including the no agenda Show 2250 02:12:33,360 --> 02:12:35,700 podcast, but also the live podcast and more and more 2251 02:12:35,700 --> 02:12:38,460 podcasts are doing this. This is the cool thing. You want to be a 2252 02:12:38,460 --> 02:12:42,750 part of that for sure. Now, you can also follow us at no agenda 2253 02:12:42,750 --> 02:12:50,790 social.com I kicked that guy off iron Iron Hide whatever his name 2254 02:12:50,790 --> 02:12:56,160 was. Yeah, guy. Yeah. And now he keeps trying to come in. Evans. 2255 02:12:56,160 --> 02:12:59,340 He's pleased to be he's like he's posting all kinds of 2256 02:12:59,340 --> 02:13:01,050 horrible things about us. 2257 02:13:02,070 --> 02:13:03,780 Unknown: Like what? Like we're 2258 02:13:03,810 --> 02:13:07,800 Adam Curry: well we're homophobic. You know, we were 2259 02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:12,720 boring. We're old. We're stupid. You know that kind of stuff. 2260 02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:16,020 John C Dvorak: Oh gosh, I'm I don't know what to do. 2261 02:13:17,640 --> 02:13:21,120 Adam Curry: Well, but he insults people all the time. And the 2262 02:13:21,120 --> 02:13:24,210 thing that he overt he look, I don't like kicking people off. 2263 02:13:24,570 --> 02:13:27,510 Normally just ignore them or block them but I tried to calm 2264 02:13:27,510 --> 02:13:29,730 him down in a private conversation. Then he started 2265 02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:30,390 posting all 2266 02:13:30,390 --> 02:13:32,490 John C Dvorak: right, you get rid of him. He's no Giza. No 2267 02:13:32,490 --> 02:13:33,210 good, Nick. 2268 02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:37,590 Adam Curry: Exactly. No good, Nick. Exactly. By the way, big 2269 02:13:37,590 --> 02:13:41,280 shout out to nick the rat. He had what we call a great get 2270 02:13:41,580 --> 02:13:45,690 yesterday. A great get, which is a great guest. Did you hear the 2271 02:13:45,690 --> 02:13:50,760 guest he had? Yeah, my wife. Yes. Mimi Dvorak. Did you get 2272 02:13:50,760 --> 02:13:54,240 your book? Not only do we get the book, we love our book, too 2273 02:13:54,240 --> 02:13:57,360 many eggs too many eggs.com. And we will be discussing it. I'm 2274 02:13:57,360 --> 02:14:00,090 carrying the keeper. Because there's no good there's been an 2275 02:14:00,090 --> 02:14:03,060 egg controversy in the family for a long time. And we and we 2276 02:14:03,060 --> 02:14:06,750 have as it solves by the book. Yes, it is all by the book. I 2277 02:14:06,750 --> 02:14:08,850 don't know if I'm happy with it. But yeah, it's off the books. 2278 02:14:09,330 --> 02:14:13,980 John C Dvorak: So what didn't go your way? to controvert 2279 02:14:13,980 --> 02:14:14,190 controversial. 2280 02:14:15,179 --> 02:14:17,609 Adam Curry: It's big. It's a big ass book. What does that thing 2281 02:14:17,609 --> 02:14:19,979 cost? If you buy the book? I know you can download the PDF 2282 02:14:19,979 --> 02:14:20,489 for free 2283 02:14:20,490 --> 02:14:24,180 John C Dvorak: because $48 I think is that's a that's a good 2284 02:14:24,180 --> 02:14:27,900 value. Yeah, it's actually we're under pricing. It's kind of like 2285 02:14:27,900 --> 02:14:31,470 we're also giving away a free PDF. Yeah. And so I mean, we're 2286 02:14:31,470 --> 02:14:34,410 in it to to lose money. So people should take advantage 2287 02:14:34,470 --> 02:14:39,180 sounds like a podcast. I like your eggs.com and get a free PDF 2288 02:14:39,180 --> 02:14:39,660 copy of 2289 02:14:39,660 --> 02:14:42,000 Adam Curry: quality of this book. And the hardcover is like 2290 02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:43,050 a Tashan book. 2291 02:14:43,230 --> 02:14:45,390 John C Dvorak: You know what I mean? Like more than you don't 2292 02:14:45,390 --> 02:14:48,030 want to touch him book is No, I don't know what No, no dough is 2293 02:14:48,030 --> 02:14:48,480 a term. 2294 02:14:48,509 --> 02:14:50,939 Adam Curry: Tasha is a publisher and they do these beautiful 2295 02:14:50,939 --> 02:14:57,749 coffee table books big size with a hardcover. I know it's a it's 2296 02:14:57,749 --> 02:15:00,749 not like it doesn't look like a self published book. See crap is 2297 02:15:00,749 --> 02:15:05,039 nice. And then it looks it looks beautiful rose. Yeah, it looks 2298 02:15:05,039 --> 02:15:05,549 beautiful. 2299 02:15:06,150 --> 02:15:07,710 John C Dvorak: We know how to do this this work. 2300 02:15:07,740 --> 02:15:10,050 Adam Curry: Look, if you want to interrupt me, I'm trying to hype 2301 02:15:10,050 --> 02:15:10,800 the book up. No, 2302 02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:13,170 John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. Keep going. What am I doing? I'm an 2303 02:15:13,170 --> 02:15:13,710 idiot. 2304 02:15:14,820 --> 02:15:18,000 Adam Curry: And I also would like everyone to, to pray for 2305 02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:22,530 our clip custodian son, Seamus, who had to go in for emergency 2306 02:15:22,530 --> 02:15:28,110 chemo. It's really shitty. So we want prayers for for Seamus, 2307 02:15:28,110 --> 02:15:28,530 please. 2308 02:15:28,559 --> 02:15:31,709 Unknown: Thank you all very much. Good note. Yes. 2309 02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:35,160 John C Dvorak: All right. Oh, he too many A's dot com. Just check 2310 02:15:35,160 --> 02:15:36,270 it out and get a free copy. 2311 02:15:36,299 --> 02:15:38,039 Adam Curry: Great book. It's a great book. Well, there you go. 2312 02:15:38,039 --> 02:15:39,779 There's our business model. Yeah, we just need to make 2313 02:15:39,779 --> 02:15:40,439 products. 2314 02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:44,640 John C Dvorak: This product is high quality. Things take care 2315 02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:48,270 of themselves. Yes, exactly. And listening to one of the podcasts 2316 02:15:48,270 --> 02:15:52,440 that are just, which is loaded is one of the spin off podcasts 2317 02:15:52,440 --> 02:15:59,610 and it's loaded with with ads for other podcasts. Oh, what 2318 02:15:59,610 --> 02:16:04,320 podcast is this? And so this is an ad for Alec Baldwin's 2319 02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:08,970 podcast. And I want you to listen to you think this. This 2320 02:16:08,970 --> 02:16:12,780 is a guy that's not geared to be a podcaster he can barely read 2321 02:16:12,780 --> 02:16:16,830 the simple copy. It just doesn't make any sense. You know, he's 2322 02:16:16,860 --> 02:16:20,940 they've tried to put him on TV to be an interviewer and he 2323 02:16:20,940 --> 02:16:23,910 thinks he's a really good interviewer. But but just listen 2324 02:16:23,910 --> 02:16:24,600 to this. 2325 02:16:24,660 --> 02:16:28,860 Unknown: Hey, it's Alec Baldwin, this past season on my podcast. 2326 02:16:28,980 --> 02:16:33,180 Here's the thing. I spoke with more actors, musicians, 2327 02:16:33,360 --> 02:16:37,800 policymakers, and so many other fascinating people, like actress 2328 02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:41,490 and director, Cheryl Hines. They were looking for an unknown 2329 02:16:41,490 --> 02:16:46,980 actress to play Larry, David's wife. I said, Well, how old is 2330 02:16:46,980 --> 02:16:54,390 that guy? Isn't he? Listen to the new season of here's the 2331 02:16:54,390 --> 02:16:59,670 thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you 2332 02:16:59,670 --> 02:17:00,960 get your podcasts. 2333 02:17:03,510 --> 02:17:05,520 John C Dvorak: This guy's a professional entertainer. 2334 02:17:06,389 --> 02:17:10,049 Adam Curry: Yeah, he's he's an NPR like, guy. That's what he 2335 02:17:10,049 --> 02:17:13,139 thinks a podcast should be. No. I mean, he's like, I have to 2336 02:17:13,139 --> 02:17:15,389 talk like this. I'm Alex Baldwin. 2337 02:17:16,440 --> 02:17:19,470 John C Dvorak: Yeah, you probably right. Not probably. I 2338 02:17:19,470 --> 02:17:23,160 just thought that was the worst promotion for a podcast ever. 2339 02:17:23,700 --> 02:17:25,830 Adam Curry: Definitely not great. I wouldn't want to be 2340 02:17:25,830 --> 02:17:27,810 promoted. Did you hear that? He got off. 2341 02:17:28,620 --> 02:17:31,140 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he got off in the officer. They defend him. 2342 02:17:31,560 --> 02:17:32,970 Not liable. Yes. 2343 02:17:33,450 --> 02:17:38,550 Adam Curry: Thank you. Hey, oh. So we got the follow Adam and 2344 02:17:38,550 --> 02:17:41,760 origin social.com Jhansi. Dvorak at no agenda social.com. And as 2345 02:17:41,760 --> 02:17:44,370 part of our value for value model, where all we ask you for 2346 02:17:44,370 --> 02:17:48,060 is to think deep inside your heart. What kind of value did 2347 02:17:48,060 --> 02:17:51,150 you get from this podcast? Can you give something back? Would 2348 02:17:51,150 --> 02:17:54,270 you like to return the value? There's a number of things you 2349 02:17:54,270 --> 02:17:58,440 can do time talent, treasure, we have people doing amazing work 2350 02:17:58,440 --> 02:18:03,330 for us and, and boots on the ground reports is really being 2351 02:18:03,330 --> 02:18:08,040 part of the large no agenda community. We also love. The 2352 02:18:08,040 --> 02:18:12,720 treasure part is very important. But we have artists who make art 2353 02:18:12,720 --> 02:18:16,230 for us. So we can always have a fresh piece of art for every 2354 02:18:16,230 --> 02:18:21,270 single show. And it is very beneficial. Very few shows do 2355 02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:25,620 this. And people like it. It gets people interested. They see 2356 02:18:25,620 --> 02:18:29,820 it on social media or they see it anywhere you get your 2357 02:18:29,820 --> 02:18:32,400 podcast. And like what what is this when you click on this and 2358 02:18:32,400 --> 02:18:34,890 then other reminded that's no agenda because those guys have a 2359 02:18:34,890 --> 02:18:38,760 new piece of art every single time. So we want to thank the 2360 02:18:38,790 --> 02:18:43,530 artists for episode 1551. That was our Palindrome show Big Mike 2361 02:18:43,530 --> 02:18:48,510 and the rock and the art was from capitalist agenda. Now we 2362 02:18:48,510 --> 02:18:53,700 had a hard time selecting a piece of art. This was it was a 2363 02:18:53,700 --> 02:18:58,890 great piece. We both liked the piece. In general it was a tank 2364 02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:03,840 in a pineapple, which was ITM on it which it really didn't make 2365 02:19:03,840 --> 02:19:06,720 any sense unless you heard the show which is what it is 2366 02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:11,040 sometimes. But you know we had the pineapple pizza we were 2367 02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:12,210 talking about you 2368 02:19:12,240 --> 02:19:14,190 John C Dvorak: need the one you liked the most was the piece of 2369 02:19:14,190 --> 02:19:18,630 bigotry by correct the record. You were a big fan of as a piece 2370 02:19:18,630 --> 02:19:23,640 of pie a piece of pizza that was signed. And I was a fan of 2371 02:19:24,209 --> 02:19:26,699 Adam Curry: I was more a fan of Dame Kenny Ben's crushing the 2372 02:19:26,699 --> 02:19:29,759 narrative. You didn't like that at all? Oh 2373 02:19:29,759 --> 02:19:32,159 John C Dvorak: no. That we had that. I agree you'd like that 2374 02:19:32,159 --> 02:19:35,039 one too. So you had those two but I didn't like to crashing 2375 02:19:35,039 --> 02:19:37,829 the narrative at all. I just I What was the point of the Fisher 2376 02:19:37,859 --> 02:19:40,529 fist bump? I don't know. So 2377 02:19:40,710 --> 02:19:43,650 Adam Curry: know what you wanted was the new drug from certain 2378 02:19:43,650 --> 02:19:44,430 net Ned. 2379 02:19:45,990 --> 02:19:48,960 John C Dvorak: No, I went to coffee for kids for from certain 2380 02:19:48,960 --> 02:19:49,680 net net and 2381 02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:52,020 Adam Curry: right but we both agreed that there wasn't clear 2382 02:19:52,020 --> 02:19:54,810 enough that it was coffee that they had needed to swap 2383 02:19:55,500 --> 02:19:59,280 John C Dvorak: some logos that we thought a for example, 2384 02:19:59,310 --> 02:20:02,670 Starbucks logos on the coffee even though this promotional I 2385 02:20:02,670 --> 02:20:04,620 think at least make the point Yeah, 2386 02:20:04,680 --> 02:20:05,220 Unknown: yeah 2387 02:20:05,310 --> 02:20:07,350 Adam Curry: Darrell but you liked the new drug because it 2388 02:20:07,350 --> 02:20:11,700 had take twice weekly contains part Curry One part Dvorak media 2389 02:20:11,700 --> 02:20:13,110 deconstruct you'd like that one. 2390 02:20:13,350 --> 02:20:16,320 John C Dvorak: I did like that one but you poo pooed it because 2391 02:20:16,560 --> 02:20:22,080 when you don't like art you claim it's unreadable. Yeah. So 2392 02:20:22,500 --> 02:20:25,110 Adam Curry: a bone of contention arises once 2393 02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:28,560 John C Dvorak: again. So you like your inbox? Let's be 2394 02:20:28,560 --> 02:20:29,190 honest, you'd like 2395 02:20:29,190 --> 02:20:30,780 Adam Curry: comics for bloggers butts. 2396 02:20:32,130 --> 02:20:34,020 Unknown: The Kpop bots Yes you do. 2397 02:20:34,080 --> 02:20:35,940 John C Dvorak: I thought that was cute. I thought it was cute 2398 02:20:35,970 --> 02:20:43,440 use of some sort of but but then it then a default back was the 2399 02:20:43,440 --> 02:20:47,400 one we pick which is media colada. Media colada. That's 2400 02:20:47,400 --> 02:20:51,960 what it was. Yes. And because it brought into pineapple, which 2401 02:20:51,960 --> 02:20:55,560 was part of the pizza story and it the rest of it, which is 2402 02:20:55,560 --> 02:20:59,490 nonsense, but it was a nice piece. It was well done. And so 2403 02:20:59,490 --> 02:21:01,170 we picked his quality it was a 2404 02:21:01,170 --> 02:21:02,910 Adam Curry: good piece and I see that people have already been 2405 02:21:02,910 --> 02:21:05,400 making new pieces for for this show. We 2406 02:21:07,260 --> 02:21:09,450 John C Dvorak: I also by the way, I also like to should bring 2407 02:21:09,450 --> 02:21:16,860 this up from MC MC gooey. tranny fluid. Yes, 2408 02:21:16,980 --> 02:21:18,450 Adam Curry: it was too small. 2409 02:21:18,660 --> 02:21:21,570 John C Dvorak: But for the Bud Light was it was a transmission 2410 02:21:21,570 --> 02:21:22,110 fluid. 2411 02:21:22,560 --> 02:21:24,930 Adam Curry: With Bud Light on it. It's an automatic trans 2412 02:21:24,930 --> 02:21:26,340 fluid. It was great. It was 2413 02:21:26,370 --> 02:21:31,110 John C Dvorak: it was a great piece but to Canada's oil or 2414 02:21:31,110 --> 02:21:35,250 what trend transmission was too small. Yeah, it's really too 2415 02:21:35,250 --> 02:21:38,310 small. You eat blowed up. You can't read the automatic 2416 02:21:38,310 --> 02:21:41,610 transmission fluid or automatic trans fluid. 2417 02:21:41,640 --> 02:21:43,290 Adam Curry: It was a very funny joke. 2418 02:21:43,410 --> 02:21:44,460 Unknown: It was very funny. 2419 02:21:44,490 --> 02:21:46,740 Adam Curry: It would have been executed. I think it would have 2420 02:21:46,740 --> 02:21:48,900 been a winner. People would have thought it was very funny. 2421 02:21:49,140 --> 02:21:51,180 John C Dvorak: It is funny. I think it's still funny, but it's 2422 02:21:51,180 --> 02:21:52,830 not. It's too dinky. Yeah. 2423 02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:56,880 Adam Curry: And now, and now the joke is gone. I don't think we 2424 02:21:56,880 --> 02:21:57,750 can do it anymore. 2425 02:21:57,840 --> 02:21:59,550 John C Dvorak: Yeah, the jokes over ones too old. 2426 02:22:02,070 --> 02:22:04,290 Adam Curry: All right, let's thank our executive and 2427 02:22:04,290 --> 02:22:08,610 Associate Executive producers for episode 1552 of the best 2428 02:22:08,610 --> 02:22:15,000 podcast in the universe. We have a lot of 3333 Dots, 30 threes, 2429 02:22:15,120 --> 02:22:20,190 and some longer notes, everybody. But I think in 2430 02:22:20,190 --> 02:22:23,340 general, we can just considering we have no nights no title 2431 02:22:23,340 --> 02:22:27,180 changes. We have only one meet up report. We can blow through 2432 02:22:27,180 --> 02:22:29,820 this in one go instead of doing instead of breaking twice and 2433 02:22:29,820 --> 02:22:34,020 still give you some good show for the money. In fact, may I 2434 02:22:34,020 --> 02:22:37,230 play something that only people who listen to the donation 2435 02:22:37,230 --> 02:22:39,900 segment will hear and all those other people who went away those 2436 02:22:39,900 --> 02:22:45,270 losers will be missing out on? Sure. Okay, so we've been we've 2437 02:22:45,270 --> 02:22:48,720 been told that we have a lot of fans in aviation. That's 2438 02:22:48,750 --> 02:22:53,490 understandable. I am an aviator. And we have air traffic 2439 02:22:53,490 --> 02:22:56,220 controllers who are thrown out in the mornings from time to 2440 02:22:56,220 --> 02:23:03,210 time, we'd like to add very much in Nashville. We met Steve and 2441 02:23:03,210 --> 02:23:08,250 Jessica and they are pretty much the Ken and Barbie of the no 2442 02:23:08,250 --> 02:23:15,690 agenda show. He is a pilot for Southwest. She is a flight 2443 02:23:15,690 --> 02:23:20,040 attendant for Southwest beautiful. He's seven feet tall. 2444 02:23:20,280 --> 02:23:23,250 You know she's got the blond hair and the great people. 2445 02:23:24,210 --> 02:23:30,450 Fantastic. He's a knight and and she has a blue. I wrote this 2446 02:23:30,450 --> 02:23:37,800 down she has she's an interior designer as well, I think. And 2447 02:23:37,800 --> 02:23:41,220 she has. Tina is going to kill me because I wrote down the name 2448 02:23:41,220 --> 02:23:44,160 of her shop, though. Anyway, 2449 02:23:44,190 --> 02:23:45,030 Unknown: I'll get that in a moment. 2450 02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:50,760 Adam Curry: So Steve sends me a note. He says me now. I liked 2451 02:23:50,760 --> 02:23:54,600 it. That ATC is you know the guys are throwing it in the 2452 02:23:54,600 --> 02:23:56,850 mornings. I haven't heard one yet but when I do I'll be sure 2453 02:23:56,850 --> 02:23:59,730 to respond within the morning says for two years, you know 2454 02:23:59,730 --> 02:24:03,150 southwest they can they do their own their own little thing. 2455 02:24:04,260 --> 02:24:06,150 John C Dvorak: They have a comedy act that they do in a 2456 02:24:06,150 --> 02:24:10,740 plane which is which was taken from PSA. Pacific Southwest 2457 02:24:10,740 --> 02:24:13,620 Airlines, which is where they stole many of these ideas are 2458 02:24:13,620 --> 02:24:17,040 set for the smile that was used to be on the plane. But they do 2459 02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:20,130 a comedy act when they tell you to put your seatbelt belt on 2460 02:24:20,130 --> 02:24:23,100 it's very complex. Sometimes they actually have a comedian on 2461 02:24:23,100 --> 02:24:25,890 the plane doing a long sketch. 2462 02:24:25,920 --> 02:24:30,360 Adam Curry: Yes. It's a dog would proper.com is Jessica's 2463 02:24:30,420 --> 02:24:35,850 store. So so they have a lot of leeway to do whatever they want 2464 02:24:35,850 --> 02:24:39,660 on the public address system. Steve says I've been doing this 2465 02:24:39,720 --> 02:24:44,370 that what do you want about to play for you for two years? And 2466 02:24:44,370 --> 02:24:47,430 not all my co pilots understand it but it usually results in me 2467 02:24:47,460 --> 02:24:51,990 hitting them in the mouth. So imagine you're in southwest This 2468 02:24:51,990 --> 02:24:56,850 is the pre takeoff announcement. And he had one of his flight 2469 02:24:56,850 --> 02:24:59,970 attendants record this for him. Okay, here we go. 2470 02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:08,970 Unknown: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard in the morning 2471 02:25:08,970 --> 02:25:11,970 from Paul and Steve up front are your pilots flying you to St. 2472 02:25:11,970 --> 02:25:14,910 Louis today. I'll be off the gate and on our way in just a 2473 02:25:14,910 --> 02:25:19,080 few more minutes of flying time to St. Louis today one hour and 2474 02:25:19,470 --> 02:25:25,920 33 minutes headed to St. Louis at a cruising altitude of 33,000 2475 02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:30,210 feet. St. Louis weather last hour reporting mostly sunny 2476 02:25:30,210 --> 02:25:34,290 skies looks like the temperature their mid 70s with winds laid on 2477 02:25:34,290 --> 02:25:37,860 the north. Getting off the gate and underway shortly. Thanks for 2478 02:25:37,860 --> 02:25:40,890 choosing us here at Southwest today. Welcome aboard in the 2479 02:25:40,890 --> 02:25:41,250 morning. 2480 02:25:45,780 --> 02:25:50,070 Adam Curry: He says he has he has not had had heard in the 2481 02:25:50,070 --> 02:25:53,250 morning back yet in two years that he's been doing it. 2482 02:25:54,690 --> 02:25:56,010 Unknown: But you gotta love that. 2483 02:25:58,260 --> 02:26:00,120 John C Dvorak: That'd be great to be on that plane. 2484 02:26:01,710 --> 02:26:03,840 Adam Curry: I'd be right I'd be storming the cockpit. I love 2485 02:26:03,840 --> 02:26:08,160 these guys. Alright, let's kick off the donations today with 2486 02:26:08,160 --> 02:26:11,340 builder Mike and Eddie stone Eddie stone at Easton, 2487 02:26:11,370 --> 02:26:14,640 Pennsylvania 333 dot 33. In the morning this notice to accompany 2488 02:26:14,640 --> 02:26:18,060 my donation in commemoration of my birthday my 61st which 2489 02:26:18,060 --> 02:26:21,240 happens on the show day this year. Birthday list. You're on 2490 02:26:21,240 --> 02:26:25,890 it. I'm also attaching the file for Barnhart. Donation. Barnhart 2491 02:26:25,890 --> 02:26:32,940 donation. I first heard Hey, everyone, if you're donating 2492 02:26:32,940 --> 02:26:35,670 free 3333 You can have a donation. I like 2493 02:26:35,820 --> 02:26:37,260 John C Dvorak: the cash register. 2494 02:26:37,290 --> 02:26:41,370 Adam Curry: Yeah, we like it a lot Barnhart donation. I first 2495 02:26:41,370 --> 02:26:44,040 heard of no agenda no factual listening to the Barnhart 2496 02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:47,520 podcast a few years ago okay. And became a regular listener 2497 02:26:47,520 --> 02:26:50,430 after I asked the Barnhart podcast to recommend a source 2498 02:26:50,430 --> 02:26:54,330 for news thanks guys. I'm on a recurring donation made a couple 2499 02:26:54,330 --> 02:26:56,940 of during that my during the double up Promotions and this is 2500 02:26:56,940 --> 02:26:59,550 my first executive producer donation be assured of my 2501 02:26:59,550 --> 02:27:03,540 prayers along with those of the good folks at Barnhart dot biz. 2502 02:27:03,930 --> 02:27:08,640 That's ba r and h AR d t dot biz for you and Jhansi thank you for 2503 02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:14,880 your courage. Non time bitcore Ma'am, my heart shall not fear. 2504 02:27:15,120 --> 02:27:18,150 Okay, that was nice. Thank you very much thrown in some Latin. 2505 02:27:19,290 --> 02:27:20,130 Unknown: You're on the list. You 2506 02:27:20,130 --> 02:27:20,970 Adam Curry: got a man Thank you. 2507 02:27:21,780 --> 02:27:24,510 John C Dvorak: All right, next is Dennis O'Brien, out of 2508 02:27:24,510 --> 02:27:29,850 Brooklyn. And he gets gives us 33333 And I'm going to skip one 2509 02:27:29,850 --> 02:27:33,600 of his paragraphs because today's is 33rd birthdays on the 2510 02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:35,760 list I've been listening for almost exactly three years as 2511 02:27:35,760 --> 02:27:37,950 such it's high time to finally gave me some of your much 2512 02:27:38,400 --> 02:27:45,060 deserved V for me. Please do douche me. You've been D deuced. 2513 02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:49,140 When he like a jobs Carmen a sampling of Al Sharpton. He says 2514 02:27:49,140 --> 02:27:52,530 he doesn't catch every show like he used to but I still try and 2515 02:27:52,530 --> 02:27:55,380 listen when I can. It's a rare and precious thing in American 2516 02:27:55,380 --> 02:27:59,040 media to he'll hear well informed opinions from smart 2517 02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:01,740 guys with interesting life experiences who don't have to 2518 02:28:01,740 --> 02:28:06,270 impress anybody or worry about getting sacked for pissing off 2519 02:28:06,270 --> 02:28:11,340 the wrong billionaire. This show is special please keep it on. A 2520 02:28:11,340 --> 02:28:14,550 final note to my fellow WAPP ease commit these words to 2521 02:28:14,550 --> 02:28:17,250 memory no conspiracy is necessary where the interests of 2522 02:28:17,250 --> 02:28:21,360 the powerful are aligned. They'll still call you crazy but 2523 02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:25,080 one in 10 might stop and think about it for a minute stay safer 2524 02:28:25,080 --> 02:28:33,900 else jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Karma 2525 02:28:35,010 --> 02:28:39,660 Unknown: is the measure of wherever the country begins in 2526 02:28:39,660 --> 02:28:44,790 the state of Wisconsin, a national drive to push back or 2527 02:28:44,790 --> 02:28:49,860 whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance 2528 02:28:50,010 --> 02:28:58,410 but resist we much we must and we will much about that. Be 2529 02:28:58,410 --> 02:28:59,370 committed doc 2530 02:28:59,370 --> 02:28:59,970 classic 2531 02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:03,390 Adam Curry: classic, classic sharp classic was the classic 2532 02:29:03,660 --> 02:29:07,590 corporate legal legal ism Baytown, Texas 333 dot 33 first 2533 02:29:07,590 --> 02:29:10,980 timer corporate legal legal from Texas. You have inspired me I 2534 02:29:10,980 --> 02:29:13,590 have moderated primary debates for local political 2535 02:29:13,590 --> 02:29:16,200 organizations. I'm planning to launch a bid for a district 2536 02:29:16,200 --> 02:29:20,310 judge seat the Texas torque wrench for precise application 2537 02:29:20,310 --> 02:29:22,620 of law Thank you 2538 02:29:24,660 --> 02:29:28,650 John C Dvorak: 333 33 comes from Sir BNA in Nashville, Tennessee. 2539 02:29:28,650 --> 02:29:28,830 This 2540 02:29:28,830 --> 02:29:32,550 Adam Curry: is our pilot this is our this is our Steve our 2541 02:29:32,550 --> 02:29:33,840 Southwest pilot right here. 2542 02:29:34,500 --> 02:29:40,530 John C Dvorak: Steve Ben stra sir BNA a he says that note for 2543 02:29:40,530 --> 02:29:44,070 three things hey get mo nation Mother's Day is May 14. That's 2544 02:29:44,070 --> 02:29:48,540 coming up. And my smokin hot wife Jessica has the perfect 2545 02:29:48,570 --> 02:29:53,880 gift box for mom and here we go. Here it is. www dogwood 2546 02:29:53,910 --> 02:29:57,540 proper.com. I've been using in the morning on all my welcome 2547 02:29:57,540 --> 02:30:00,480 aboard pas and ATC word radio chicks underwear He played one 2548 02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:05,670 of them hopefully this trend it will be changing in other words 2549 02:30:05,670 --> 02:30:09,840 he wants to hear from some no agenda listeners when he when 2550 02:30:09,870 --> 02:30:12,420 you leave the plane you can say something in the morning gives 2551 02:30:12,420 --> 02:30:17,490 John trade Kara Swisher then then when a bit go ahead is 2552 02:30:17,490 --> 02:30:22,080 spoken shouldn't care a colleague say okay John, rather 2553 02:30:22,080 --> 02:30:28,770 than Adam say okay Kara. Sure. Okay, jingles, Bogey bogey and 2554 02:30:28,770 --> 02:30:31,980 that's true. Thank you for your courage, Steve. Okay, maybe I 2555 02:30:31,980 --> 02:30:37,290 should do the. That's true first. Sounds a little better 2556 02:30:37,290 --> 02:30:43,410 that way. Oops. Come on. It's true. Here we go. That's true 2557 02:30:51,450 --> 02:30:54,840 Adam Curry: I feel bad should be. It's true. That's true. It's 2558 02:30:54,840 --> 02:30:55,050 true. 2559 02:30:55,050 --> 02:30:56,460 Unknown: It's true. It's true. 2560 02:30:56,670 --> 02:30:59,580 Maybe this one is true. That's Trump. 2561 02:31:00,630 --> 02:31:02,820 John C Dvorak: When we lost it we lost it's true. 2562 02:31:02,849 --> 02:31:04,829 Adam Curry: I don't know what's going on. Now. He that's not 2563 02:31:04,829 --> 02:31:06,119 possible. That's not true. 2564 02:31:06,900 --> 02:31:09,480 John C Dvorak: But it's not lost. It's just lost. 2565 02:31:09,720 --> 02:31:14,910 Something's gone. How much misplaced thank God here she is 2566 02:31:14,910 --> 02:31:15,510 glad we have 2567 02:31:15,990 --> 02:31:19,440 Adam Curry: Maynard throne is in Tracy, California. 333 dot 33. 2568 02:31:19,440 --> 02:31:22,590 Short and sweet. I'm a driver for a large grocery chain. John 2569 02:31:22,590 --> 02:31:25,470 really nailed it when he said we are educating truck drivers 2570 02:31:25,620 --> 02:31:30,360 listeners since 2016. That we're educating truck drivers. Comma 2571 02:31:30,390 --> 02:31:34,260 listeners since 2016. A donation is long overdue, please deduce 2572 02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:46,710 ben de deuced along with a John donate, donate, donate see and 2573 02:31:46,710 --> 02:31:51,120 that is this one and peace and love to you both know I'm sorry 2574 02:31:51,120 --> 02:31:54,270 Maynard throne Tracy California. 2575 02:31:55,500 --> 02:31:57,270 Unknown: This the one you've got 2576 02:32:02,280 --> 02:32:07,050 Adam Curry: Dawn karma nice nailed 2577 02:32:07,050 --> 02:32:09,330 John C Dvorak: down. Do you have the note because I don't have it 2578 02:32:09,360 --> 02:32:13,740 Adam Curry: I do let me go and grab that. There's two notes 2579 02:32:13,740 --> 02:32:15,300 which one is this? Christopher 2580 02:32:17,490 --> 02:32:20,850 John C Dvorak: I found it Oh, good. Hey, it just Christopher I 2581 02:32:20,850 --> 02:32:24,840 pay goals who came in with 33333 Adam sharp mispronouncing his 2582 02:32:24,840 --> 02:32:28,470 last name. And he writes Hey, John, and this is Christopher 2583 02:32:28,470 --> 02:32:33,990 from Menominee. Mama no money. Money no money, man. No money No 2584 02:32:33,990 --> 02:32:38,130 money. No money. No money. No money. No moon if I keep saying 2585 02:32:38,160 --> 02:32:42,090 I can't say man no money, no money. I'm gonna enjoy this. 2586 02:32:42,420 --> 02:32:48,930 Check. 3333 is good. The show as of late has been lacking in sumo 2587 02:32:48,930 --> 02:32:52,380 analysis. Oh, the reason is because the tournaments are 2588 02:32:52,380 --> 02:32:57,420 every other month. John was you think of that cure beyond a 2589 02:32:57,420 --> 02:33:01,860 carry beyond us. You show when and what is your thoughts on the 2590 02:33:01,860 --> 02:33:06,960 main tournament? Is it push Shiro is time? You know, 2591 02:33:07,200 --> 02:33:10,440 speculating on who's what Sumo is going to win the tournaments 2592 02:33:10,440 --> 02:33:15,390 I've always found to be kind of weird because this is like it's 2593 02:33:15,450 --> 02:33:18,870 I don't know how to say it. But it's it's like speculate on 2594 02:33:18,870 --> 02:33:22,680 who's gonna win the NASCAR race. And they do it. Oh, I think guy 2595 02:33:22,680 --> 02:33:25,740 Thank gosh, also is going to win. No. You never know who's 2596 02:33:25,740 --> 02:33:28,410 gonna win. It's just some guy gets lucky and wins a few key 2597 02:33:28,410 --> 02:33:33,150 matches. Also, can you say it's scary? My niece? My niece thinks 2598 02:33:33,150 --> 02:33:36,000 it's your best catchphrase. No, no, it's a scam scam. 2599 02:33:36,030 --> 02:33:37,170 Adam Curry: You gotta say it right. 2600 02:33:37,410 --> 02:33:40,080 John C Dvorak: It's a scam. It's let me get it right. It's a 2601 02:33:40,080 --> 02:33:44,040 scam. Nice. Stay dangerous. Christopher. 2602 02:33:44,550 --> 02:33:47,670 Adam Curry: Thank you. Michael Dorman is in Redmond Washington. 2603 02:33:47,700 --> 02:33:50,130 333 in the morning Jen thanks for all you do please accept 2604 02:33:50,130 --> 02:33:53,310 some value for value jingle ants in my pants. I think he means 2605 02:33:53,310 --> 02:33:56,640 ants, the ants. Classic ants. We'll play a little bit of it. 2606 02:33:56,790 --> 02:33:59,730 May I please have some relationship karma hands as I'm 2607 02:33:59,730 --> 02:34:03,240 starting off something with a new special lady peace and love 2608 02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:06,060 to you both course. A little bit of that for you. 2609 02:34:07,080 --> 02:34:10,260 Unknown: Just a little bit of the ants, ants ants. I got ants. 2610 02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:11,880 I got ants 2611 02:34:23,190 --> 02:34:25,020 you've got karma you 2612 02:34:27,720 --> 02:34:32,640 John C Dvorak: Lauren Powell. Pillet Polesworth pelo Palla 2613 02:34:32,640 --> 02:34:36,450 Woda Palais WADA political i There's a way of pronouncing 2614 02:34:36,450 --> 02:34:40,980 this like not gonna get it I don't know what it is. Hello 2615 02:34:41,010 --> 02:34:44,310 Paulo Woda is what it looks like to me but okay, and she's in 2616 02:34:44,310 --> 02:34:48,600 Chandler whatever the case, Arizona she comes up with 333 2617 02:34:48,690 --> 02:34:54,030 that as did Michael Dorman. How do you bow howdy to you both. As 2618 02:34:54,030 --> 02:34:57,840 much as I would love to say no jingle no jiggles. She's got a 2619 02:34:57,840 --> 02:35:04,470 year. Yeah. Get No jiggle, no jiggles no karma I can't. I 2620 02:35:04,470 --> 02:35:08,130 could I get a foamer trains good plains bad and some goat karma 2621 02:35:08,130 --> 02:35:11,910 at the end of the note, let me be brief. I just made this 2622 02:35:11,910 --> 02:35:14,490 donation very early in the morning while my smokin hot 2623 02:35:14,490 --> 02:35:17,970 boyfriend is asleep. His birthday was an April 29 and I 2624 02:35:17,970 --> 02:35:21,210 failed to get him a birthday shout on the Sunday show. So I 2625 02:35:21,210 --> 02:35:24,690 had the idea to donate 333 and ask what goes toward the 2626 02:35:24,690 --> 02:35:28,320 eventual knighthood of Eric Bradley. But I would like to 2627 02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:33,360 executive producer if that's not too much to ask. Good for you. 2628 02:35:33,360 --> 02:35:37,290 Good. Yeah, I agree. Anyway, I know he's listening to the live 2629 02:35:37,290 --> 02:35:40,500 show. So I guess this is somewhat of a surprise for him. 2630 02:35:40,770 --> 02:35:44,760 Happy belated 27th Birthday to you. Harsh gut. 2631 02:35:45,300 --> 02:35:52,170 Unknown: Hi hirers golf horse hoof partial partial golf. What 2632 02:35:52,170 --> 02:35:54,390 is it? Well, it's German 2633 02:35:55,710 --> 02:35:59,490 John C Dvorak: youth 3333 closer to being a night now love you 2634 02:35:59,520 --> 02:36:00,390 mean it? 2635 02:36:01,349 --> 02:36:13,949 Unknown: Oh my god. On the board trains planes are mine. 2636 02:36:17,160 --> 02:36:19,830 Adam Curry: Greg Birch. Oh, there's Greg Birch. 2637 02:36:20,070 --> 02:36:23,520 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's he's a baron. He's our den Baron Greg 2638 02:36:23,520 --> 02:36:27,840 versus the official no agenda dentist dental professional 2639 02:36:27,840 --> 02:36:31,410 Adam Curry: from from way up north in Port Angeles, 2640 02:36:31,410 --> 02:36:35,100 Washington. $300. Thank you Greg. Birthday may 6 First one 2641 02:36:35,100 --> 02:36:38,130 without my father. I'm sorry ma'am. I also understand all too 2642 02:36:38,130 --> 02:36:41,880 well. How much Adam surgery cost? Not overboard. Haven't 2643 02:36:41,880 --> 02:36:45,180 missed the show. Cheers sir. Birch. Thank you. Thank you sir. 2644 02:36:45,180 --> 02:36:49,050 Birch. Nice guy. I still use one. He was the first one that 2645 02:36:49,050 --> 02:36:51,510 turned me on to the Sonicare toothbrushes he sent me one 2646 02:36:51,900 --> 02:36:53,640 John C Dvorak: and I've been using it ever since he went to 2647 02:36:53,640 --> 02:36:55,590 mind blew up I had to buy another one blew up 2648 02:36:55,590 --> 02:36:58,260 Adam Curry: like exploded in your face wave Vu up like a 2649 02:36:58,260 --> 02:36:58,710 vapor. 2650 02:37:00,690 --> 02:37:04,770 John C Dvorak: Sir John and Blaine, Minnesota nuts 299 He 2651 02:37:04,770 --> 02:37:07,860 becomes Associate Executive Producer and he says best show 2652 02:37:07,890 --> 02:37:14,190 ever last Sunday I believe. Very interesting that Tucker and Dawn 2653 02:37:14,190 --> 02:37:19,410 analysis. Don wanted to get a quick donation off before the 2654 02:37:19,410 --> 02:37:23,190 deadline and can't wait and can't for the life of me find 2655 02:37:23,190 --> 02:37:28,830 what the exact email is for the note. Adam, would you please 2656 02:37:28,830 --> 02:37:31,830 tell the listeners out there what the note address is? 2657 02:37:32,490 --> 02:37:38,430 Adam Curry: Note notes notes and ote s at no agenda show dotnet 2658 02:37:38,430 --> 02:37:42,210 notes at no agenda show dotnet that's notes at no agenda show 2659 02:37:42,210 --> 02:37:42,930 dotnet 2660 02:37:43,680 --> 02:37:46,470 John C Dvorak: went to the rickety devora.org page which is 2661 02:37:46,470 --> 02:37:50,100 being changed as we speak and it still says to send money to 2662 02:37:50,100 --> 02:37:53,640 Jonathan or send notes don't remember that but if it did, I 2663 02:37:53,640 --> 02:37:57,000 got it. Nice forwarded to Jay we'll put it in his reg not 2664 02:37:57,000 --> 02:37:57,720 anonymous, it's 2665 02:37:57,720 --> 02:37:59,940 Adam Curry: a donation in the subject line. 2666 02:38:00,600 --> 02:38:02,400 John C Dvorak: And it said donation in the subject line 2667 02:38:02,400 --> 02:38:07,440 wisely. Yes. So that gets his official voice wherever he goes 2668 02:38:07,440 --> 02:38:11,790 on. Keep them coming guys have the greatest Michaud ever did? 2669 02:38:11,940 --> 02:38:15,360 No jingles Oh Come on Mr. John of the Dunkirk mudflats, 2670 02:38:15,420 --> 02:38:18,000 Adam Curry: Baron of Whistler and Whistler BC I've been to 2671 02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:21,780 Whistler. Fantastic that glacier up there California. A Canadian 2672 02:38:21,810 --> 02:38:27,690 I'm sorry 244 dot 91 this is 333 Canada Navion That's right. We 2673 02:38:27,690 --> 02:38:31,830 have to upgrade him who are upgraded analyst to be upgraded. 2674 02:38:31,830 --> 02:38:34,590 We still do that even though your money is getting pretty 2675 02:38:34,590 --> 02:38:38,520 pathetic. I mean, it's short. You're short. You're 2676 02:38:38,520 --> 02:38:42,420 shortchanging us by like 60 bucks crazy. And our dollar 2677 02:38:42,420 --> 02:38:45,810 keeps tanking my annual may 5 birthday dinner a donation John 2678 02:38:45,810 --> 02:38:49,440 forgot, so I can't complain about the sink complain about 2679 02:38:49,440 --> 02:38:53,010 the Cinco Demayo promo this year. What did you forget? 2680 02:38:53,700 --> 02:38:58,080 John C Dvorak: I forgot to plug that tomorrow. Cinco de mio. Oh. 2681 02:38:59,040 --> 02:38:59,640 Oh. 2682 02:39:00,660 --> 02:39:03,720 Adam Curry: Happy birthday to Theo to Theo's on the list I 2683 02:39:03,720 --> 02:39:05,910 guess. No, no. Yeah, yeah, yes, he 2684 02:39:05,910 --> 02:39:08,220 John C Dvorak: is. He's on the list. In your 2685 02:39:08,220 --> 02:39:09,330 Adam Curry: Theo Theodosia 2686 02:39:09,360 --> 02:39:10,920 John C Dvorak: so your Dorthea DeVore IKEA. 2687 02:39:10,950 --> 02:39:14,040 Adam Curry: Oh, the adorable How old is the adorable turning? 2688 02:39:14,070 --> 02:39:15,300 John C Dvorak: He's going to be six. 2689 02:39:15,600 --> 02:39:18,630 Adam Curry: Oh man I used to obey still make them do crazy 2690 02:39:18,630 --> 02:39:22,050 stuff. Like what? I know stuff that his mother hates. 2691 02:39:22,650 --> 02:39:25,560 John C Dvorak: Oh, well. I mean, if possible. Yeah, of course the 2692 02:39:25,560 --> 02:39:28,620 latest just give us a label. I haven't got any latest ones 2693 02:39:28,620 --> 02:39:32,400 because you know he's been grumpy and he's not always just 2694 02:39:33,420 --> 02:39:35,430 Adam Curry: opportunity. He's a divorce wreck. He's 2695 02:39:35,430 --> 02:39:37,800 John C Dvorak: Grumpy. Grumpy kid. 2696 02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:40,770 Adam Curry: Happy birthday to see oh thanks for keeping it 2697 02:39:40,770 --> 02:39:44,280 real regards Baron of Whistler lose go karma please. And we got 2698 02:39:44,280 --> 02:39:46,380 that for you, man. You've got 2699 02:39:51,630 --> 02:39:55,920 John C Dvorak: sure Tooth Fairy envelop arrived Valparaiso, 2700 02:39:55,950 --> 02:40:02,280 Indiana. Hey, guys, John Irish. If my copy of too many eggs the 2701 02:40:02,280 --> 02:40:06,240 other day nice what a wonderful cookbook, please tell me me. I'm 2702 02:40:06,240 --> 02:40:09,600 greatly enjoying it and can't wait to try some of the recipes 2703 02:40:09,600 --> 02:40:13,320 this weekend. I'll keep you busy. Adam, thank you for 2704 02:40:13,320 --> 02:40:17,040 sharing your dental implant experience you're hearing 2705 02:40:17,040 --> 02:40:20,700 improved after the infected molars being removed is very 2706 02:40:20,730 --> 02:40:24,630 interesting. I've been screening my heart of hearing patients for 2707 02:40:24,630 --> 02:40:28,740 undiagnosed sinus infections since I heard your story. Cool. 2708 02:40:29,640 --> 02:40:33,870 Thanks for all you do. And Adam, could you please not be so short 2709 02:40:33,870 --> 02:40:39,840 with John? What is this? He means well yeah, and I agree 2710 02:40:39,840 --> 02:40:45,000 with with wizard Sure. I'm not sure we yeah, good karma for all 2711 02:40:45,000 --> 02:40:49,290 please. Tooth Fairy. Oh, wow. I only Wow. 2712 02:40:50,190 --> 02:40:52,470 Adam Curry: I would appreciate you letting me know if you've 2713 02:40:52,800 --> 02:40:56,820 found any undiagnosed sinus infections than that and I need 2714 02:40:56,820 --> 02:41:00,540 to hook you up with Mitch Maverick. My periodontist. We're 2715 02:41:00,540 --> 02:41:04,410 going to start a revolution I think all right. Yes, of course 2716 02:41:04,410 --> 02:41:12,660 we got Yeah, karma for you. No problem. You've got karma. Those 2717 02:41:12,660 --> 02:41:15,600 are the executive and Associate Executive producers for episode 2718 02:41:15,600 --> 02:41:20,460 1552. We thank you all very much. These credits that you get 2719 02:41:20,460 --> 02:41:23,610 are permanent. They never go away. You will always be an 2720 02:41:23,610 --> 02:41:26,100 executive producer or Associate Executive Producer of this 2721 02:41:26,100 --> 02:41:30,510 episode. You can flaunt that broadly wherever you feel like 2722 02:41:30,510 --> 02:41:33,600 it you could put it on all kinds of places your resume or 2723 02:41:33,600 --> 02:41:37,980 LinkedIn profile IMDb, you can actually use this and start IMDb 2724 02:41:37,980 --> 02:41:41,640 profile IMDb profile, they are accepted. And they are 2725 02:41:41,670 --> 02:41:44,550 recognized there. And unlike the douchebags in Hollywood, if 2726 02:41:44,550 --> 02:41:47,880 anyone questions this, we'd be happy to hop on the phone and 2727 02:41:47,880 --> 02:41:51,720 vouch for you. We got a couple of meetups to talk about John's 2728 02:41:51,720 --> 02:41:53,640 gonna take us through to the 50s right now. 2729 02:41:54,120 --> 02:41:55,920 John C Dvorak: Match saying yeah, we do a few people to 2730 02:41:55,920 --> 02:41:59,160 thank continue to thank and we start with Matt and St. Clair 2731 02:41:59,160 --> 02:42:04,500 images names and amounts. Man St. Clair as Matt in St. Clair, 2732 02:42:04,500 --> 02:42:12,060 Michigan 133 dot 33 urbana boulders lol Oh, oh, it's 2733 02:42:12,060 --> 02:42:15,960 boulders. Is it really boulders not builders? I don't know. But 2734 02:42:15,960 --> 02:42:21,570 anyways, Urbana boulders LLC in Urbana, Illinois, Illinois. 2735 02:42:22,110 --> 02:42:25,260 Baron lattic. In in Houston, Texas, John Rowe Benet Parts 2736 02:42:25,260 --> 02:42:33,930 Unknown Ron Chambliss is in the Indiana metal metal dog machines 2737 02:42:33,930 --> 02:42:36,510 in Rocky Mountain House Alberta 2738 02:42:36,630 --> 02:42:40,830 Adam Curry: sent 100 Send us a machine to try one a machine 2739 02:42:41,130 --> 02:42:42,990 machine and I want to Boulder 2740 02:42:44,310 --> 02:42:49,050 John C Dvorak: boulder be handy. Boulder. You could use one in 2741 02:42:49,050 --> 02:42:52,680 your yard. I could Patrick Brandon at sick oh, by the way. 2742 02:42:52,680 --> 02:43:00,210 Those are all $100 donors sorry. Patrick brand is 8686 Kevin 2743 02:43:00,210 --> 02:43:04,590 McLaughlin is back with 808 Eating out just how many can he 2744 02:43:04,590 --> 02:43:08,010 do? Yeah. Gabe defend he's in locust North Carolina. Gabe? 2745 02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:14,130 Gabe the Farrior? What's a farm area three or four year? It says 2746 02:43:14,130 --> 02:43:16,650 Farrior and it came right off the spreadsheets Brentwood, 2747 02:43:16,650 --> 02:43:23,880 California. Farrior 808 y n y n Kartini in Torrington, 2748 02:43:23,880 --> 02:43:35,640 Connecticut 7421 Quarry rule in Marion, Iowa 7183 instrument 2749 02:43:35,640 --> 02:43:39,540 check or something I'm not sure what he wants. Sarah Hubert in 2750 02:43:39,540 --> 02:43:44,910 Mitcham UK sent us a really sweet note on a piece of on a 2751 02:43:44,910 --> 02:43:50,190 pig. And she is it's just an interesting note she said I 2752 02:43:50,190 --> 02:43:54,900 guess does murals or something she's a she's an itinerant 2753 02:43:54,930 --> 02:43:58,140 artist and want to thank her for that but 2754 02:43:58,500 --> 02:44:01,020 Adam Curry: why don't you read the note? The trouble of sending 2755 02:44:01,020 --> 02:44:01,920 it on a pig? 2756 02:44:02,609 --> 02:44:05,279 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I have I have it. I have it. You have it. 2757 02:44:05,279 --> 02:44:06,059 Why don't you read it in the 2758 02:44:06,060 --> 02:44:07,950 Adam Curry: morning John Adam here's my rather late Happy 2759 02:44:07,950 --> 02:44:11,460 Birthday John donation you see is important. Yeah, it is for me 2760 02:44:11,460 --> 02:44:18,090 7158 58 P That's Pence is for my birthday, which was on the 2761 02:44:18,090 --> 02:44:21,630 fourth it's late because I was value for valuing in a remote 2762 02:44:21,630 --> 02:44:26,160 rural South African Zozo village. Oh, I've seen I've seen 2763 02:44:26,160 --> 02:44:29,160 Sarah's work she sent me a picture of this. I paint murals 2764 02:44:29,160 --> 02:44:31,680 and teach local artists in return for accommodation and 2765 02:44:31,680 --> 02:44:36,960 meals. Check out the beautiful Bulu lunga lodge pronounced boo 2766 02:44:37,290 --> 02:44:41,970 boo Lauren Gula Gula Gula at boom hula hula hula Bulla. 2767 02:44:43,980 --> 02:44:52,890 raceless. OUT B ULUNGUL a.co.za for South Africa. In my five 2768 02:44:52,890 --> 02:44:57,240 weeks there I unplugged from everything except the best 2769 02:44:57,240 --> 02:45:01,080 podcast in the universe. unmissable love slit from hair 2770 02:45:01,110 --> 02:45:04,830 Sara Huber Thank you Sarah. Nice note worth it. 2771 02:45:04,890 --> 02:45:08,310 John C Dvorak: Yeah, she's actually famous Max Wyndham in 2772 02:45:08,310 --> 02:45:15,390 spring Texas $68 Hindery? jowling Yeah, Link yada yada 2773 02:45:15,390 --> 02:45:20,280 link and haired here to knit. herder herder didn't get that 2774 02:45:20,280 --> 02:45:24,660 Ian they're here. Hendricks yeah Lincoln held here. 2775 02:45:25,620 --> 02:45:28,020 Unknown: Here to here or die here 2776 02:45:30,090 --> 02:45:35,010 John C Dvorak: 5065 56 And he wants to give a shout out to and 2777 02:45:35,010 --> 02:45:39,450 Peter Strick Verica in here are 2778 02:45:41,940 --> 02:45:44,550 Adam Curry: they doing it just just to get this out of you? You 2779 02:45:44,550 --> 02:45:46,860 shouldn't be say love it to be sending more money for that 2780 02:45:46,860 --> 02:45:49,380 people. You make him a monkey before him. Come on was just 2781 02:45:49,380 --> 02:45:51,630 sending more money. More money. 2782 02:45:52,740 --> 02:45:56,520 John C Dvorak: Brian Furley 5510 parts a nosy anonymous in 2783 02:45:56,640 --> 02:46:02,760 Liverpool. Oh mercy UK mercy city. 510 Yeah. Arlene's dig. 2784 02:46:02,760 --> 02:46:06,480 Gaina in Levittown, New York. I need some karma. You will get 2785 02:46:06,480 --> 02:46:10,830 put down at the end there for you. 5446 and I could have the 2786 02:46:10,830 --> 02:46:16,920 name wrong di GE na Bob Butler's Nixon coming ga 5069 Mike Vaughn 2787 02:46:16,920 --> 02:46:23,880 in Clarkston, Michigan 5036 with a birthday Dame Dame night is 2788 02:46:23,880 --> 02:46:24,540 who this is. 2789 02:46:25,530 --> 02:46:28,470 Adam Curry: Mike Vaughn also says missed make good from Show 2790 02:46:28,470 --> 02:46:33,330 1500 Need some baby making karma? I'll do that for you 2791 02:46:33,330 --> 02:46:35,820 Mike. I got the baby making calm we got the special baby making 2792 02:46:35,820 --> 02:46:36,120 karma. 2793 02:46:36,150 --> 02:46:39,210 John C Dvorak: So on game night and Edmonds Washington is 5015 2794 02:46:39,210 --> 02:46:44,400 And now we got the $50 donors. Few of them Clara Thornhill 2795 02:46:44,400 --> 02:46:49,830 stopped it starts it off in Toronto dotted mind and dotted 2796 02:46:49,830 --> 02:46:55,380 mind and Lincoln shirt UK. Tony laying send us 2797 02:46:56,550 --> 02:46:58,740 Adam Curry: send us a dotted mind with a machine we need a 2798 02:46:58,740 --> 02:46:59,790 dotted my 2799 02:46:59,880 --> 02:47:04,080 John C Dvorak: a couple Tony Lang and Castle Pines, Colorado 2800 02:47:04,080 --> 02:47:09,750 Gerrard and Plano in Salem, Oregon. Justin Heiner in vine 2801 02:47:09,750 --> 02:47:14,850 Grove Kentucky. Jacob Martinez in El montay California Anna 2802 02:47:14,850 --> 02:47:20,370 Drake in Whitestone. Indiana Kurt Patrick in Nanaimo BC on 2803 02:47:20,370 --> 02:47:26,010 the island, James sheremeta in Napa Henok, New York, Charles 2804 02:47:26,010 --> 02:47:30,330 Peterson Alburquerque Baron of Belmont in Belmont North 2805 02:47:30,330 --> 02:47:34,710 Carolina with a with a birthday shout out Brian Watson in 2806 02:47:34,710 --> 02:47:37,980 Raleigh, North Carolina Walker Phillips in San Rafael, 2807 02:47:37,980 --> 02:47:42,330 California. And last but not least, I Ichi Chittagong Galois 2808 02:47:42,630 --> 02:47:44,760 in San Francisco, 2809 02:47:44,789 --> 02:47:49,409 Adam Curry: I have one note, one note that came into my PO box 2810 02:47:49,409 --> 02:47:54,899 which is always a little confusing, but $160 in cash from 2811 02:47:55,499 --> 02:47:58,199 and it's handwritten note pod father hope this note finds you 2812 02:47:58,199 --> 02:48:00,959 well in resting post surgery, please find my long overdue 2813 02:48:00,959 --> 02:48:05,999 donation. I'm not worthy of any awards or accolades. I kindly 2814 02:48:05,999 --> 02:48:09,059 asked for cargo from my smokin hot wife and two human resources 2815 02:48:09,059 --> 02:48:12,749 and says cheers, wha foond or Wolfhound, it's kind of hard to 2816 02:48:12,749 --> 02:48:17,009 read. And he gave me a cool patch, which looks like some 2817 02:48:17,009 --> 02:48:20,189 service some military service that shoots down Chinese 2818 02:48:20,189 --> 02:48:24,209 balloons. And try and get that trying to get that to the right 2819 02:48:24,209 --> 02:48:27,629 Pio box people because now I have to send I have to send it 2820 02:48:27,629 --> 02:48:30,989 to John. It's just It ruins the accounting and it's already 2821 02:48:30,989 --> 02:48:34,319 sketched. So we got, we have to keep everything on the up and 2822 02:48:34,319 --> 02:48:37,019 up. But thank you very much. We appreciate that. Thank you to 2823 02:48:37,019 --> 02:48:41,009 everyone who also came in under $50. That is typically because 2824 02:48:41,009 --> 02:48:44,069 you're on what you want. complete anonymity. And there's 2825 02:48:44,069 --> 02:48:47,609 one reason for you, but also people on some of these 2826 02:48:47,609 --> 02:48:50,039 sustaining donations which are incredibly important, 2827 02:48:50,219 --> 02:48:53,159 particularly when when you have one donation segment then those 2828 02:48:53,159 --> 02:48:56,699 things really help. We appreciate that. And if you'd 2829 02:48:56,699 --> 02:48:59,729 like to learn more, go to the still old page but a new ones in 2830 02:48:59,729 --> 02:49:00,179 the works as 2831 02:49:00,180 --> 02:49:03,720 Unknown: we speak vora.org/in 2832 02:49:03,810 --> 02:49:04,830 And here's the karma 2833 02:49:04,830 --> 02:49:11,310 Adam Curry: for everybody who needed I'm adding a goat thank 2834 02:49:11,310 --> 02:49:14,040 you all very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe 2835 02:49:14,040 --> 02:49:19,860 episode 155 formula is this. We go out for yet people in the 2836 02:49:19,860 --> 02:49:20,130 mouth. 2837 02:49:39,810 --> 02:49:44,670 Our birthday list includes Sarah Hubert who celebrated April 4. 2838 02:49:44,970 --> 02:49:48,540 Lauren pelota wishes her smokin hot boyfriend Eric Bradley 2839 02:49:48,540 --> 02:49:52,860 ablated. Happy Birthday turned 27 on April 29. Away Sarah was 2840 02:49:52,890 --> 02:49:56,580 April 4. That's an old one. I'm sorry. Mike Vaughn turned 36 on 2841 02:49:56,580 --> 02:50:01,020 April 30. We have the Baron of Belmont wishes Comrade John 2842 02:50:01,020 --> 02:50:04,950 thrower Happy Birthday that was May 1 builder Mike turning 61 2843 02:50:04,950 --> 02:50:09,570 today. Danielle Mackay celebrating today Theodore the 2844 02:50:09,570 --> 02:50:13,830 CM dorable Devorah. Tomorrow may 5 Baron of Whistler also 2845 02:50:13,830 --> 02:50:17,520 tomorrow may 5. Greg Birch, our dentist up north may 6, and 2846 02:50:17,520 --> 02:50:20,940 Dennis O'Brien is 3033 Happy birthday for everybody here the 2847 02:50:20,940 --> 02:50:23,040 best podcast in the universe. 2848 02:50:25,290 --> 02:50:26,370 Unknown: No one said 2849 02:50:33,510 --> 02:50:37,020 Adam Curry: no agenda meetups. I am now I'm going to the Austin 2850 02:50:37,020 --> 02:50:41,340 meetup on the 13th I believe Tina is going to be in New York 2851 02:50:41,340 --> 02:50:45,210 with her visiting her daughter. That'll be for Mother's Day. So 2852 02:50:45,210 --> 02:50:48,330 I'm going to be them bring my buddy Jimmy so looking forward 2853 02:50:48,330 --> 02:50:53,070 to everybody at Doc's backyard on the 13th we had a one report 2854 02:50:53,070 --> 02:50:58,830 this is the I might be high report their 10th 10th coming 2855 02:50:58,830 --> 02:50:59,880 together as a meet up 2856 02:51:00,060 --> 02:51:03,900 Unknown: in the morning John and Adam. We had our 10th meet up in 2857 02:51:03,900 --> 02:51:10,470 Toronto, Ontario, Canada. In honor of Canada's Bill C 11. We 2858 02:51:10,470 --> 02:51:15,060 bring you the I must be Hi meetup records. How many 2859 02:51:15,060 --> 02:51:16,380 donators in this room 2860 02:51:17,100 --> 02:51:19,200 My name is not Troy I'm really high 2861 02:51:19,650 --> 02:51:23,340 in the morning Adam and John from Toronto still a douche bag 2862 02:51:23,370 --> 02:51:24,720 so sorry broke musician. 2863 02:51:25,230 --> 02:51:27,390 I'm a douche bag get 2864 02:51:28,830 --> 02:51:33,540 Adam creed like DM me come up with something in the morning 2865 02:51:33,660 --> 02:51:35,850 Bitcoin I could buy weed with it right? 2866 02:51:39,840 --> 02:51:44,280 Adam Curry: They actually were high. That's impressive. Not 2867 02:51:44,280 --> 02:51:48,270 just not just a slogan those guys mean it. Starting right now 2868 02:51:48,270 --> 02:51:51,390 if you're in Brookfield, Illinois, the May the Fourth be 2869 02:51:51,390 --> 02:51:54,750 with you meet up is kicking off. That's for Chicago central Irish 2870 02:51:54,750 --> 02:51:58,950 Times, pub and restaurant. On Saturday, the Hoosiers Fort 2871 02:51:58,950 --> 02:52:02,220 Wayne club 33 weekend dancers meet up one o'clock at house 2872 02:52:02,250 --> 02:52:06,540 tavern, a tavern and Coventry in Fort Wayne, Indiana. We have the 2873 02:52:06,540 --> 02:52:09,570 secret Chinese spy balloon South Jersey meet up on Saturday at 2874 02:52:09,570 --> 02:52:12,540 one o'clock at Miller's Ale House Mount Laurel New Jersey. 2875 02:52:12,780 --> 02:52:16,320 Hogan's Heroes meet up in Ohio, Michigan, Ohio, Michigan mixer 2876 02:52:16,320 --> 02:52:20,520 one o'clock. Liberty aviation museum that's in Port Clinton, 2877 02:52:20,520 --> 02:52:24,630 Ohio. You must RSVP sir Timothy have no fixed title is 2878 02:52:24,630 --> 02:52:29,580 organizing that. The Delaplane Virginia new location spook 2879 02:52:29,580 --> 02:52:33,180 meetup I guess barrel oak winery and brewery in Delaplane. 2880 02:52:33,180 --> 02:52:36,510 Virginia. All right. If you're spooked, you need to be there. 2881 02:52:37,680 --> 02:52:40,770 Also on Saturday, the Virginia Maryland West Virginia tri state 2882 02:52:40,770 --> 02:52:44,580 data science meet up Madison Village Apartments clubhouse, 2883 02:52:44,580 --> 02:52:48,240 the main room in Winchester, Virginia, done to spook meetups 2884 02:52:48,840 --> 02:52:53,040 and the making our own mural up at four o'clock New York Time 2885 02:52:53,040 --> 02:52:56,370 Cleveland Drafthouse Garner North Carolina. There you go, TJ 2886 02:52:56,370 --> 02:52:59,760 the redhead at the bar is organizing hey now and on 2887 02:52:59,760 --> 02:53:03,870 Sunday, our next show day the build Snohomish back better. 2888 02:53:04,380 --> 02:53:08,370 Snohomish Beck better three o'clock Pacific south to summit 2889 02:53:08,370 --> 02:53:13,410 brewing, Snohomish Washington and Lacey Chang is leading lady 2890 02:53:13,410 --> 02:53:16,680 three Jane is organizing that we got a lot of meetups all the way 2891 02:53:16,680 --> 02:53:19,920 through where I see may otherwise at the end of June 2892 02:53:19,920 --> 02:53:23,280 already. You see the Netherlands couple of them he went up to 2893 02:53:23,280 --> 02:53:26,670 Amsterdam meet up in Leiden on the Netherlands going insane. 2894 02:53:28,020 --> 02:53:30,480 All kinds of meetups this is this is something that you need 2895 02:53:30,480 --> 02:53:34,710 in your life. You go to one and you're guaranteed you will go to 2896 02:53:34,710 --> 02:53:37,440 another one even when you're vacationing somewhere before you 2897 02:53:37,440 --> 02:53:40,200 know but hey there's a meetup you always be checking it go to 2898 02:53:40,200 --> 02:53:44,070 Joe agenda meetups.com Look around search around if you 2899 02:53:44,070 --> 02:53:46,770 can't find a meetup near you start one is easy and it's 2900 02:53:46,800 --> 02:53:50,550 always a party with 2901 02:53:53,700 --> 02:54:00,030 Unknown: Bom Bom won't be triggered all you 2902 02:54:02,550 --> 02:54:09,270 Adam Curry: say is like It sure is. How are we doing on time? 2903 02:54:09,330 --> 02:54:13,500 Oh, man. You know we don't want one donation segment we make 2904 02:54:13,500 --> 02:54:17,250 more we do more. Do more podcasts. So 2905 02:54:17,250 --> 02:54:19,530 John C Dvorak: a couple of things I wanted to play Do you 2906 02:54:19,530 --> 02:54:23,520 have an ISO? I do have an ISO I have well how many do you have? 2907 02:54:23,790 --> 02:54:28,230 I appear to have for for some reason? Well I have one and so I 2908 02:54:28,230 --> 02:54:31,110 think you're gonna win but here's my one. There's your 2909 02:54:31,110 --> 02:54:31,740 okay. 2910 02:54:32,760 --> 02:54:33,780 Unknown: Oh goodness. 2911 02:54:35,520 --> 02:54:38,370 Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, I could I could fart and do a 2912 02:54:38,370 --> 02:54:41,610 better echo when the ISO contest over that one. Let's see what I 2913 02:54:41,610 --> 02:54:41,880 got. 2914 02:54:41,910 --> 02:54:45,120 Unknown: Wow, that is really interesting. 2915 02:54:46,590 --> 02:54:49,110 John C Dvorak: Okay, that's it right there. Well, let me play 2916 02:54:49,260 --> 02:54:52,530 the other three. Just the same guy who said wow, I'm really 2917 02:54:52,530 --> 02:54:53,070 high. 2918 02:54:53,220 --> 02:54:55,680 Unknown: You're not great at stoking outrage. Oh, what a 2919 02:54:55,680 --> 02:55:00,300 shame. Little to produce I think what's the This one 2920 02:55:00,330 --> 02:55:06,840 Oh yeah. Okay my last one Russian disinformation 2921 02:55:07,950 --> 02:55:09,270 John C Dvorak: is cute but no, 2922 02:55:09,690 --> 02:55:11,790 Adam Curry: it's it's definitely this one. Oh, 2923 02:55:11,820 --> 02:55:16,470 Unknown: wow, that is really interesting because it's really 2924 02:55:16,470 --> 02:55:19,590 not okay. That one ask us cute 2925 02:55:19,620 --> 02:55:21,450 Adam Curry: All right good what do you got? You got some some 2926 02:55:21,480 --> 02:55:22,950 John C Dvorak: some yeah I wanted to talk a little about 2927 02:55:22,950 --> 02:55:26,490 get to clips because it's so in you know it's not being reported 2928 02:55:26,490 --> 02:55:29,820 well here in this country as usual because m five M has their 2929 02:55:29,850 --> 02:55:32,790 they have their their walking papers or their orders or 2930 02:55:32,790 --> 02:55:36,270 whatever they call it on us my paper they get their orders and 2931 02:55:36,270 --> 02:55:39,450 they're not going to do too much about this Belgrade school 2932 02:55:39,450 --> 02:55:40,050 shooting in 2933 02:55:40,050 --> 02:55:43,530 Adam Curry: Serbia. Oh, okay, good one. I'm glad you got this. 2934 02:55:43,860 --> 02:55:46,560 John C Dvorak: So here we have two I have two clips, and one of 2935 02:55:46,560 --> 02:55:50,730 them has a little little tidbit that won't be talked about much. 2936 02:55:51,090 --> 02:55:54,060 And the other one has kind of another little tidbit that I 2937 02:55:54,060 --> 02:55:57,120 want to talk about. So let's play the Belgrade school 2938 02:55:57,120 --> 02:55:58,560 shooting this AlJazeera 2939 02:55:58,800 --> 02:56:02,100 Unknown: the parents of a 13 year old boy accused of opening 2940 02:56:02,100 --> 02:56:05,520 fire in a school in the Serbian capital Belgrade have been 2941 02:56:05,520 --> 02:56:09,630 arrested. The city's mourning the deaths of eight children and 2942 02:56:09,630 --> 02:56:13,530 one security guard. Police say the suspect to use his father's 2943 02:56:13,530 --> 02:56:17,310 gun in the attack. But the boy is not expected to be charged 2944 02:56:17,310 --> 02:56:21,330 because he's below the legal age to face trial instead, so be in 2945 02:56:21,330 --> 02:56:24,480 the present Alexander Bucha, which is looking to change the 2946 02:56:24,480 --> 02:56:28,530 law concerning the age of criminal responsibility and says 2947 02:56:28,530 --> 02:56:31,380 the Bible were placed in a psychiatric institution. 2948 02:56:32,460 --> 02:56:35,700 John C Dvorak: Ha. So they're doing something that it was 2949 02:56:35,700 --> 02:56:37,890 always talked about in Escondido, and it just 2950 02:56:37,890 --> 02:56:42,120 disappeared from the face of the earth, arresting the parents for 2951 02:56:42,120 --> 02:56:43,650 their bad seed. 2952 02:56:44,970 --> 02:56:48,600 Adam Curry: Yeah. And is this it? Was this kid drugged up? 2953 02:56:49,470 --> 02:56:51,780 John C Dvorak: That we don't have any not? Probably not in 2954 02:56:51,780 --> 02:56:55,590 this case, but who knows? Maybe, but whatever the case was, the 2955 02:56:55,590 --> 02:57:01,470 parents of the 13 year old shooter was arrested. I think if 2956 02:57:01,470 --> 02:57:04,020 we started doing that here and might change a few things, I 2957 02:57:04,020 --> 02:57:08,160 would think so. So the parents are a Russian. And then you hear 2958 02:57:08,160 --> 02:57:11,610 this other little tidbit in the end of the second part of this 2959 02:57:11,610 --> 02:57:15,210 report, which I think is another reason not to really talk about 2960 02:57:15,210 --> 02:57:15,750 too much 2961 02:57:15,779 --> 02:57:19,319 Unknown: fire on students inside the hallway before entering his 2962 02:57:19,319 --> 02:57:23,069 history classroom, to show to the teacher first, then turn the 2963 02:57:23,069 --> 02:57:27,269 weapon on his classmates as they tried to flee killing and 2964 02:57:27,269 --> 02:57:29,579 wounding many edocs some spaniel it 2965 02:57:29,580 --> 02:57:33,060 was I was walking up the stairs and I could hear a sound I 2966 02:57:33,060 --> 02:57:36,810 thought maybe were kids throwing firecrackers having fun, but I 2967 02:57:36,810 --> 02:57:39,180 could hear it more on the sound was coming from the front of the 2968 02:57:39,180 --> 02:57:42,330 school. I saw the security guard falling to the ground so I 2969 02:57:42,330 --> 02:57:44,070 quickly ran from where I was. 2970 02:57:44,610 --> 02:57:48,810 I security guard is also among the dead, the teacher left 2971 02:57:48,810 --> 02:57:51,990 fighting for her life across the world. 2972 02:57:52,439 --> 02:57:55,199 This tragedy occurred in the lettuce rebel group Nick Primary 2973 02:57:55,199 --> 02:57:57,689 School of the fracture municipality of the City of 2974 02:57:57,689 --> 02:58:01,829 Belgrade. Unfortunately, eight children died and one security 2975 02:58:01,829 --> 02:58:05,129 guard was also killed. The injured children in one school 2976 02:58:05,129 --> 02:58:08,309 teacher had been hospitalized. No one can bring these children 2977 02:58:08,309 --> 02:58:09,599 back to their parents. 2978 02:58:10,170 --> 02:58:12,870 As parents in the emergency services courage to the 2979 02:58:12,870 --> 02:58:16,530 elementary school in the Serbian capital. The suspect was on the 2980 02:58:16,530 --> 02:58:20,280 phone to the police confessing the shooting. Before being 2981 02:58:20,280 --> 02:58:24,270 arrested in the schoolyard described as quiet and good 2982 02:58:24,270 --> 02:58:28,650 pupil and said to be new to the class. He was led away by police 2983 02:58:28,680 --> 02:58:32,820 his face covered, there is yet no known motive for an attack, 2984 02:58:32,970 --> 02:58:36,660 the police said was carefully planned to be 2985 02:58:36,660 --> 02:58:40,140 as peaceful. This was the list of children that he intended to 2986 02:58:40,140 --> 02:58:44,490 kill. He did it alone, he made the plan by himself. The plan of 2987 02:58:44,490 --> 02:58:48,180 entering the school of exiting it was found on his desk. And as 2988 02:58:48,180 --> 02:58:51,690 he said he determined the priority targets. This sketch 2989 02:58:51,690 --> 02:58:53,730 looks like a video game, a horror movie. 2990 02:58:54,570 --> 02:58:57,480 These sorts of things does not happen very often in Serbia, 2991 02:58:57,480 --> 02:58:59,370 very strict gun laws apply. 2992 02:59:01,590 --> 02:59:03,480 John C Dvorak: That doesn't happen very often because strict 2993 02:59:03,510 --> 02:59:10,110 gun laws apply. You can't talk about stopping with the strict 2994 02:59:10,110 --> 02:59:10,830 gun laws. 2995 02:59:11,160 --> 02:59:14,850 Adam Curry: That was rather depressing. I like to leave on 2996 02:59:14,850 --> 02:59:21,600 an upbeat note about climate change. And the reason this is 2997 02:59:21,600 --> 02:59:26,310 an upbeat clip is because this is Kennedy. You know the Joe 2998 02:59:26,310 --> 02:59:31,560 Kennedy, the funny guy. The funny is your senator. See you 2999 02:59:31,560 --> 02:59:35,400 Congressman John Kennedy, John. John Kennedy. Yes. 3000 02:59:36,120 --> 02:59:38,040 Unknown: See? Yeah, he's a 3001 02:59:39,270 --> 02:59:40,200 John C Dvorak: good question. Remember, 3002 02:59:40,200 --> 02:59:43,530 Adam Curry: I think he's a senator. So he is badgering the 3003 02:59:43,530 --> 02:59:48,240 Assistant Secretary of Energy. Yeah, who's presented the most 3004 02:59:48,240 --> 02:59:54,600 recent plan, which is I guess, over until 2035, a total of 3005 02:59:54,600 --> 03:00:01,470 55 $0 trillion to combat climate change. Get It sounds about have 3006 03:00:01,470 --> 03:00:02,250 you seen this clip? 3007 03:00:02,730 --> 03:00:05,730 John C Dvorak: Now I'm sure it's I know as tight as the style of 3008 03:00:05,730 --> 03:00:07,860 clips, though they're all funny. 3009 03:00:08,160 --> 03:00:10,650 Adam Curry: All these all the senators and the Congress, 3010 03:00:11,010 --> 03:00:13,800 people when they do this stuff for the cameras, it's always 3011 03:00:13,800 --> 03:00:16,860 performative. It's always, you know, it's to get votes or 3012 03:00:16,860 --> 03:00:19,800 whatever this guy, he showboating, showboating. But 3013 03:00:19,830 --> 03:00:23,070 but in this case, it's really appropriate. And it's really 3014 03:00:23,070 --> 03:00:26,160 good. And he just is, I love the guy percent of 3015 03:00:26,160 --> 03:00:28,320 Unknown: global media. But if you could answer my question, if 3016 03:00:28,320 --> 03:00:33,150 we spend $50 trillion, to become carbon neutral in the United 3017 03:00:33,150 --> 03:00:37,920 States of America by 2050, you're the Deputy Secretary of 3018 03:00:37,920 --> 03:00:42,150 Energy. Give me your estimate of how much that is going to reduce 3019 03:00:42,150 --> 03:00:43,350 world temperature. So 3020 03:00:43,380 --> 03:00:47,640 so first of all, it's a net cost. It's what benefits we're 3021 03:00:47,640 --> 03:00:50,100 having from getting our act together and reducing all of 3022 03:00:50,100 --> 03:00:51,240 those climate benefits we're 3023 03:00:51,240 --> 03:00:54,360 seeing may ask again, or maybe I'm being right, maybe I'm not 3024 03:00:54,360 --> 03:00:58,410 being clear. If we spent $50 trillion to become carbon 3025 03:00:58,410 --> 03:01:03,870 neutral by 2050. In the United States of America, how? How much 3026 03:01:03,870 --> 03:01:05,970 is that going to reduce world temperatures? 3027 03:01:06,000 --> 03:01:08,880 This is a global problem. So we need to reduce our emissions, 3028 03:01:08,880 --> 03:01:10,050 and we need to do everything we 3029 03:01:10,050 --> 03:01:13,260 can how much if we do our other artists are going to reduce the 3030 03:01:13,260 --> 03:01:17,880 war for 13% of global emissions? I don't know do you? You don't 3031 03:01:17,880 --> 03:01:20,670 know. Do you can do the math we need? You don't know. Do you, 3032 03:01:20,670 --> 03:01:25,500 Mr. Secretary? So we're 13%? You know, why won't you tell me? If 3033 03:01:25,500 --> 03:01:28,170 we went to zero? That would be 13. For you, you don't know, do 3034 03:01:28,170 --> 03:01:32,490 you, you just want us to spend $50 trillion. And you don't have 3035 03:01:32,490 --> 03:01:36,450 the slightest idea whether it's going to reduce world 3036 03:01:36,450 --> 03:01:39,690 temperatures. Now I'm all for carbon neutrality, but you're 3037 03:01:39,690 --> 03:01:43,110 the Deputy Secretary of the Department of Energy, and you're 3038 03:01:43,110 --> 03:01:46,890 advocating we spend trillions of dollars to seek carbon 3039 03:01:46,890 --> 03:01:50,220 neutrality and you can't and this isn't your money and my 3040 03:01:50,220 --> 03:01:53,430 money is taxpayer money. And you can't tell me how much it's 3041 03:01:53,430 --> 03:01:56,130 going to lower world temperatures there or you won't 3042 03:01:56,130 --> 03:01:58,140 tell me you know, but you won't. 3043 03:01:58,320 --> 03:02:01,740 In my heart of hearts. There is no way the world gets his act 3044 03:02:01,740 --> 03:02:04,230 together and climate change unless the US leads tell me 3045 03:02:04,230 --> 03:02:08,550 how much it's really you. You can't tell me either that or you 3046 03:02:08,550 --> 03:02:09,270 won't. 3047 03:02:09,360 --> 03:02:15,000 Adam Curry: I love that guy. 35 seconds for one last clip. This 3048 03:02:15,000 --> 03:02:19,200 guy's boss, the energy secretary, Jennifer Granholm, 3049 03:02:19,710 --> 03:02:21,600 you know the one with a saucers on her head 3050 03:02:21,630 --> 03:02:23,940 John C Dvorak: that she calls here's the dumbest one in the 3051 03:02:23,940 --> 03:02:25,890 whole group. Well, yes, she 3052 03:02:25,890 --> 03:02:28,440 Adam Curry: is because tell me if this sounds like a good idea. 3053 03:02:28,560 --> 03:02:32,310 Unknown: Do you support the military adopting that AV fleet 3054 03:02:32,310 --> 03:02:33,480 by 2030? 3055 03:02:33,510 --> 03:02:36,300 I do and I think we can get there as well. And I do think 3056 03:02:36,300 --> 03:02:39,750 that reducing our reliance on the volatility of globally 3057 03:02:39,750 --> 03:02:43,320 traded fossil fuels where we know that global events such as 3058 03:02:43,320 --> 03:02:48,450 the war in Ukraine can jack up prices for people back home does 3059 03:02:48,450 --> 03:02:50,700 not contribute to energy security. I think energy 3060 03:02:50,700 --> 03:02:55,800 security is achieved when we have homegrown clean energy that 3061 03:02:55,800 --> 03:02:59,820 is abundant. Like you see in Iowa, we think that we can be a 3062 03:02:59,820 --> 03:03:03,180 leader globally and how we have become energy independent. 3063 03:03:03,270 --> 03:03:09,390 Adam Curry: She wants to put the entire US military fleet on EVs 3064 03:03:11,100 --> 03:03:13,680 hilarious so we're in Iraq or some you know one of these 3065 03:03:13,680 --> 03:03:16,860 desert places we'd like to go and blow up from time to time we 3066 03:03:16,860 --> 03:03:21,510 have to go plug in Yeah, I mean, really in how about the planes 3067 03:03:21,540 --> 03:03:21,960 they also 3068 03:03:21,960 --> 03:03:24,870 John C Dvorak: be all EVs? Well, they're gonna try to do that 3069 03:03:24,870 --> 03:03:25,830 too. If they can. 3070 03:03:25,890 --> 03:03:30,360 Adam Curry: These people need to be kicked out. Kicked out. All 3071 03:03:30,360 --> 03:03:30,660 of them. 3072 03:03:30,690 --> 03:03:35,760 John C Dvorak: How'd they get in? In competency? Obviously no 3073 03:03:35,760 --> 03:03:37,320 rigged elections. Hello. 3074 03:03:37,680 --> 03:03:39,960 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yes. rigged elections. All right, 3075 03:03:39,960 --> 03:03:45,660 everybody enjoy Saturday. You know, King Charles is coronation 3076 03:03:45,720 --> 03:03:46,920 that should be Oh, that's right. This 3077 03:03:46,920 --> 03:03:48,870 John C Dvorak: the big coronations on Saturday he 3078 03:03:48,870 --> 03:03:51,750 played the clips remember? I know but I didn't realize it was 3079 03:03:51,750 --> 03:03:52,620 this Saturday. 3080 03:03:53,430 --> 03:03:56,280 Adam Curry: There you go. No agenda always on top of the news 3081 03:03:56,280 --> 03:03:57,180 and behind the title 3082 03:03:57,180 --> 03:03:58,830 John C Dvorak: Well, you know I'm not gonna be there that 3083 03:03:58,830 --> 03:03:59,790 wasn't invited. 3084 03:04:01,620 --> 03:04:03,780 Adam Curry: Coming up next on the agenda stream we got Rhino 3085 03:04:03,780 --> 03:04:08,580 the bearded with his double O top 10. Yeah, music on the 3086 03:04:08,580 --> 03:04:14,910 stream all legal cool deal. In the show mixes we have classic 3087 03:04:14,940 --> 03:04:19,470 April Kirby. We got new DS last classic Billy Bones and some 3088 03:04:19,470 --> 03:04:22,230 Dustin Jones and coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill 3089 03:04:22,230 --> 03:04:24,900 country here in your femur region number six in the 3090 03:04:24,900 --> 03:04:26,910 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 3091 03:04:27,150 --> 03:04:29,340 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain 3092 03:04:29,340 --> 03:04:30,450 I'm John C. Devorah. 3093 03:04:30,480 --> 03:04:34,140 Adam Curry: We return on Sunday with another episode of the Best 3094 03:04:34,140 --> 03:04:37,140 podcast in the universe. Your media deconstruction, remember 3095 03:04:37,140 --> 03:04:42,600 us at DeVore ak.org/na Until then, adios mofos a hui, Hui, 3096 03:04:42,960 --> 03:04:44,130 and such 3097 03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:01,020 John C Dvorak: Every day 3098 03:05:11,790 --> 03:05:19,020 Unknown: for the show like you didn't have a chance to do 3099 03:05:19,020 --> 03:05:19,890 anyway, 3100 03:05:20,400 --> 03:05:22,200 Adam Curry: thank you for producing the best podcast in 3101 03:05:22,200 --> 03:05:26,010 the universe while the producers produce it y'all produce it we 3102 03:05:26,010 --> 03:05:28,950 just do it. I've been a listener for the past few years I have no 3103 03:05:28,950 --> 03:05:40,140 recollection of how I found the show. Stoner owner just dropped 3104 03:05:40,200 --> 03:05:42,450 in my lap at first I thought it was okay 3105 03:05:42,539 --> 03:05:45,629 Unknown: back and forth punching the nuggets It was fun getting 3106 03:05:45,629 --> 03:05:49,919 back to see my nephews I really want a son or a daughter. I 3107 03:05:49,919 --> 03:05:53,579 don't care a healthy baby in this world I guess it's a baby 3108 03:05:53,849 --> 03:05:56,849 who would go for that would you say in fact was wack Bobby and 3109 03:05:56,849 --> 03:06:00,689 me have way too much money to consider that day right? In 3110 03:06:00,689 --> 03:06:05,039 hindsight, the family tragedy kids passing was sad to see in 3111 03:06:05,039 --> 03:06:09,029 the society we normalize the lies that we tell ourselves not 3112 03:06:09,029 --> 03:06:12,989 even surprised brain Washington schools is happening earlier 3113 03:06:12,989 --> 03:06:16,139 progress to regress when the men are getting earlier fixed your 3114 03:06:16,139 --> 03:06:21,779 face can lie that I'm looking certainly here gender affirming 3115 03:06:21,779 --> 03:06:25,439 care your parents are you not scared? Child castration, 3116 03:06:25,439 --> 03:06:29,759 mutilation, top surgery scars kids and treated like stars is 3117 03:06:29,759 --> 03:06:32,759 that formation generation ruining the nation born in the 3118 03:06:32,759 --> 03:06:36,629 wrong body got domain mistakes, who will Barbra Chet GBT is full 3119 03:06:36,629 --> 03:06:42,479 of deep fakes. 80% moving from girls and boys media portrays 3120 03:06:42,479 --> 03:06:45,479 the other way and kids are not what kids are not playing with 3121 03:06:45,479 --> 03:06:49,799 their toys SEL social emotional learning. cradle to the grave 3122 03:06:49,949 --> 03:06:53,549 fathers in leadership is what they yearn for anti trans 3123 03:06:53,549 --> 03:06:58,319 legislators since they know more in my lifetime on medication 3124 03:06:58,319 --> 03:07:02,249 therapies more demonizing faith in a higher God wants you to 3125 03:07:02,249 --> 03:07:06,179 relinquish the sovereignty to God than the latter you like 3126 03:07:06,179 --> 03:07:10,589 Saad Sodom and Gomorrah other times we are living in look 3127 03:07:10,589 --> 03:07:14,309 around at all this silly promoted cities in Norwich and 3128 03:07:14,729 --> 03:07:18,959 know well what know what don't get offended what's a woman 3129 03:07:18,959 --> 03:07:21,479 anyway top of the pyramid transgender 3130 03:07:22,350 --> 03:07:25,110 Adam Curry: pollution has come to light has that information my 3131 03:07:25,110 --> 03:07:28,170 wife has worked the last six years for a company that makes 3132 03:07:28,170 --> 03:07:32,790 prosthetic penises for transmit I mean we have no listeners of 3133 03:07:32,790 --> 03:07:35,040 any influence but we've got to be interesting people 3134 03:07:36,150 --> 03:07:37,920 John C Dvorak: we have the apps we've 3135 03:07:42,600 --> 03:07:46,470 Adam Curry: got no note for this girl males let me just take a 3136 03:07:46,470 --> 03:07:49,620 look and nurture 3137 03:07:58,290 --> 03:07:58,680 Unknown: to me 3138 03:08:19,740 --> 03:08:20,460 back to the ball 3139 03:08:23,250 --> 03:08:25,530 Adam Curry: you know if you smoke weed out musically sound 3140 03:08:25,530 --> 03:08:25,950 different 3141 03:08:28,680 --> 03:08:29,400 Unknown: this adrift 3142 03:08:31,020 --> 03:08:32,220 the bonds I got the bond 3143 03:08:33,510 --> 03:08:38,430 John C Dvorak: Amen I'm a like a lightweight kind of a little 3144 03:08:38,430 --> 03:08:38,700 waste. 3145 03:08:39,750 --> 03:08:41,280 Adam Curry: Anyone see you in this state? 3146 03:08:44,760 --> 03:08:45,960 John C Dvorak: I'm gonna go listen to Rihanna. 3147 03:08:56,430 --> 03:09:04,140 Unknown: MOPO boruch.org/in A Wow, that is really interesting.