1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,020 Citizens of the globe the earth is my is my home. I'm Ally live 2 00:00:04,020 --> 00:00:05,970 on Earth. Adam curry, 3 00:00:06,090 --> 00:00:10,260 John C. Dvorak. April 5 2018 This is your award winning give 4 00:00:10,260 --> 00:00:15,720 donation media assassination episode 1022. This is no agenda, 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,400 celebrating Double Magic digits around the sun and broadcasting 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,890 live from the capital of the drone Star State downtown Austin 7 00:00:22,890 --> 00:00:26,400 Tejas in the clue to the Morning everybody. I'm Adam curry 8 00:00:26,490 --> 00:00:30,450 and from Northern Silicon Valley where we missed the Zephyr and 9 00:00:30,450 --> 00:00:38,820 John C. Dvorak. Robin Buzzkill. Oh, wow. Short Sweezy show az 10 00:00:38,849 --> 00:00:43,619 az az Well, ladies and gentlemen, can you spin around 11 00:00:43,619 --> 00:00:52,679 the Sun two times 33 times. Happy Birthday My friend Have 12 00:00:52,679 --> 00:00:57,209 you received any gifts yet for your birthday? Sorry, Have you 13 00:00:57,209 --> 00:00:58,619 received any gifts yet? 14 00:00:58,950 --> 00:01:00,570 I got one right here. I'm playing it. 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,150 God that's not a gift. That's a curse who gave that to you? gave 16 00:01:06,150 --> 00:01:06,870 that to you? 17 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:08,760 Maybe did oh, 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,530 what is she trying to be cute? 19 00:01:12,780 --> 00:01:18,990 We're gonna start a new Bongo beat poetry podcast as I know 20 00:01:18,990 --> 00:01:19,860 that'll pack it in. 21 00:01:19,890 --> 00:01:23,160 Exactly. So you're gonna do the bongos Mimi will do the poetry 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,860 and then Jay will be doing finger snaps. 23 00:01:26,220 --> 00:01:32,190 Yes. Got it? Well, you know we have got to get the go t I gotta 24 00:01:32,220 --> 00:01:33,390 go go t 25 00:01:34,530 --> 00:01:39,120 that will look so good on you know, we have many, many 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,270 producers from around the globe of different professions and 27 00:01:42,270 --> 00:01:46,830 different skill sets. And one of our I think she was an Associate 28 00:01:46,830 --> 00:01:51,360 Executive producer on the last show. Melissa Talon you familiar 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,160 with her? No, she was the one that said that after years of 30 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,820 being signed to major labels she's now independent is really 31 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:00,540 all right yeah 32 00:02:00,540 --> 00:02:01,650 I remember her yes 33 00:02:01,649 --> 00:02:07,319 yes so she's She's actually quite talented she's got a she's 34 00:02:08,489 --> 00:02:09,179 yeah there's a lot 35 00:02:09,180 --> 00:02:10,500 of talented people Yeah, 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,280 but yeah like chick behind the piano type cool talented. Okay 37 00:02:14,310 --> 00:02:17,790 one of those and guess what she sent something in for your 38 00:02:17,790 --> 00:02:44,340 birthday ah terrific we love no agenda to gather as we go going 39 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:47,550 to start because we really love 40 00:02:49,410 --> 00:02:50,820 we're rethinking 41 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,070 the phrase from the chaise unknown 42 00:03:03,630 --> 00:03:04,620 There you go. 43 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,690 Well, she can sing ah 44 00:03:09,330 --> 00:03:12,660 and your what's great is like if we had done a morning show on 45 00:03:12,660 --> 00:03:16,740 like a radio station or even a weekly after weekend call in 46 00:03:16,740 --> 00:03:21,180 show in order to get something like that. It would have been 47 00:03:21,210 --> 00:03:25,350 you know, get a right it's you got to you know, get approval. 48 00:03:25,740 --> 00:03:29,400 You got to talk to the guy we got to find the singer gotta get 49 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:29,670 we're getting 50 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,730 a call from ASCAP immediately. Yes, 51 00:03:33,150 --> 00:03:35,250 we probably will. Think about it. 52 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,680 It's a parody. Yeah. Yeah, that doesn't doesn't mean that you're 53 00:03:41,250 --> 00:03:43,200 totally legal parody. And yes, 54 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,550 but you're not absconded from rights. Anyway, thank you very 55 00:03:47,550 --> 00:03:52,680 much, Melissa Talon from Australia. You made my day? 56 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,200 Yeah. Next week boy she's great. She'll do she should do well as 57 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:58,920 an independent you 58 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,940 should check her out on the YouTubes Okay, she's pretty good 59 00:04:03,180 --> 00:04:08,610 she's got some good stuff almost as good as as the that chick 60 00:04:08,610 --> 00:04:16,080 from Iran Yeah. Oh my goodness. Was this a doozy or what? 61 00:04:16,589 --> 00:04:20,129 Well I was a jam and as you know, we I got some nasty note 62 00:04:20,129 --> 00:04:23,639 from one of our producers saying you're gonna shut you apparently 63 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:26,999 something happened this is area we poo pooed it as being local 64 00:04:26,999 --> 00:04:33,299 who cares? Oh, and so he says I should buy this is local who 65 00:04:33,299 --> 00:04:37,049 cares you're just gonna mocking me Yeah, and oh, not really 66 00:04:37,049 --> 00:04:39,299 looked at fine thing is this is not a local stripe because it 67 00:04:39,299 --> 00:04:43,349 involves YouTube. And it involves they're scared changing 68 00:04:43,349 --> 00:04:46,529 their policies and screwing all these people they suckered into, 69 00:04:46,529 --> 00:04:48,719 like hoping to make a living. Yeah. 70 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:52,590 Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for bringing up the 71 00:04:52,650 --> 00:04:55,200 immediate issue that isn't being discussed. Of course we're not 72 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,980 talking about gun control or anything about like that or how 73 00:04:58,980 --> 00:05:02,370 white man or horror A bull or arm who won't white man or 74 00:05:02,370 --> 00:05:07,410 terrorist? What I saw is exactly what you just mentioned is Wait 75 00:05:07,410 --> 00:05:12,000 a minute, YouTube, and also almost all the social nets. 76 00:05:12,390 --> 00:05:16,170 They're all constantly giving you this feedback mechanism. And 77 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,440 believe me, this is not about D monetization, the D monetization 78 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,960 part I'm sure she was making making pennies. That's not the 79 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,310 point. When you get d monetized on the YouTubes, your viewer 80 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:30,330 count goes down. This is what drove her over the edge. It 81 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:33,990 channels being closed viewercount, this reward system 82 00:05:34,110 --> 00:05:37,620 is addictive. And when people can't get their drug, they can 83 00:05:37,620 --> 00:05:40,890 go over the edge. And I think the social nets need to be very 84 00:05:40,890 --> 00:05:43,950 careful, particularly with people. I love saying that, 85 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,190 particularly with YouTube, because because people put a lot 86 00:05:47,190 --> 00:05:50,880 of effort into that. And, you know, again, I really don't 87 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,260 believe that her you know, 300,000 views is a 88 00:05:55,290 --> 00:05:59,370 groundbreaking moneymaker for the way the way it really 89 00:05:59,370 --> 00:06:03,570 operates. But, you know, it was the addiction that was she was 90 00:06:03,570 --> 00:06:06,210 being cut off. It's like It's like cutting off a junkie. 91 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,750 No, she's she looked like one. I have a couple clips. 92 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:15,630 Can I do one first? I have a background or from the New York 93 00:06:15,630 --> 00:06:19,860 Times. And the reason I want to play it is for some reason. It's 94 00:06:19,860 --> 00:06:22,560 a Dutch guy doing the voiceover. Oh, so 95 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,040 that means you can mock it. Absolutely. But I was surprised. 96 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,760 Why would the New York Times have this voice Do the other 97 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:30,330 video that 98 00:06:30,330 --> 00:06:34,590 you're talking about this crappy videos they put online? Yeah. 99 00:06:34,620 --> 00:06:39,300 Representing the paper. Yes, exactly. Do you get it either 100 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:45,570 they have they have these? They're in New York City. They 101 00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:48,990 could get a reasonable newsreader. And I'm sure there's 102 00:06:48,990 --> 00:06:52,200 somebody on the staff that can do it. But they just bring any 103 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,100 old schlub they can. And you know they don't want to do it. 104 00:06:56,430 --> 00:06:57,960 every once awhile. There's somebody that does want to do 105 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,180 but the most of the I don't know. I don't know. I don't have 106 00:07:00,180 --> 00:07:02,610 a good voice. Oh, yeah, go ahead. You're gonna sound 107 00:07:03,030 --> 00:07:05,760 I think what happened here? I think this was the editor 108 00:07:05,820 --> 00:07:08,070 because Dutch guy I know a lot of Dutch guys who are good video 109 00:07:08,070 --> 00:07:11,040 editors, and he's probably illegally at the New York Times, 110 00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:14,670 working on stuff. And then they said, Dear, well, you know, we 111 00:07:14,670 --> 00:07:17,640 don't have anybody so I did voice myself. Hi, everybody, and 112 00:07:17,670 --> 00:07:19,590 all and I'm on to the New York Times 113 00:07:19,620 --> 00:07:24,060 do YouTube shooter Nassima dumb was widely known on the radio 114 00:07:24,060 --> 00:07:29,010 social media as Nasima subs, which means green in the scene. 115 00:07:30,090 --> 00:07:33,420 Because of her advocacy for animal rights, healthy living 116 00:07:33,420 --> 00:07:38,220 and veganism. veganism. Her specific style of videos made 117 00:07:38,220 --> 00:07:41,820 her relatively famous among Iran's growing YouTube and 118 00:07:41,820 --> 00:07:45,870 Instagram influencers. For instance, one showing a rabbit, 119 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,090 where she explains the differences between 120 00:07:48,090 --> 00:07:53,580 vegetarianism and being vegan. In another video, she explains 121 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:58,140 the benefits of eating a papaya. One of her most well known 122 00:07:58,140 --> 00:07:59,700 videos here is what 123 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:02,460 do you think of it so far? Do you think I'm really rocking it? 124 00:08:03,150 --> 00:08:08,250 I think that maybe this will set a trend and kind of remove that 125 00:08:08,250 --> 00:08:12,750 British sounding newsreaders. We're going for this and replace 126 00:08:12,750 --> 00:08:14,340 it with these Dutch guys, 127 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,660 I have a career. Finally, I can get gigs one 128 00:08:18,660 --> 00:08:22,410 where she's wearing a revealing purple dress, don't believe what 129 00:08:22,410 --> 00:08:25,350 you see is a message appearing in the video screen 130 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:29,130 time being discriminated and filtered on YouTube. And I'm not 131 00:08:29,130 --> 00:08:32,220 the only one. And if you go and check my videos, you see that my 132 00:08:32,220 --> 00:08:33,990 new videos hardly get views. 133 00:08:34,020 --> 00:08:37,800 She also resizes YouTube and you make some physical protests a 134 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,030 year ago by going on the streets posting what claims to be a 135 00:08:42,030 --> 00:08:45,870 picture of herself holding up a sign saying YouTube 136 00:08:45,870 --> 00:08:50,340 dictatorship. And then there's a video that gives more insight if 137 00:08:50,340 --> 00:08:55,530 you will in the life. She had fled her native Iran decades 138 00:08:55,530 --> 00:08:59,730 ago. In that video, she explains that even though she was a 139 00:08:59,730 --> 00:09:03,300 member of the Baha'i Faith, which is a persecuted faith in 140 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:06,990 Iran. She doesn't really like life in the United States. And 141 00:09:06,990 --> 00:09:11,490 she literally says, In Iran, they kill you by x. But in the 142 00:09:11,490 --> 00:09:14,850 United States, they kill you with gotten any rate expression 143 00:09:14,850 --> 00:09:18,210 for saying that she's dying a slow death in the United States 144 00:09:18,270 --> 00:09:18,930 when it comes 145 00:09:18,930 --> 00:09:24,570 to free speech. Anything that Iran is better than USA or USA 146 00:09:24,570 --> 00:09:25,350 is better than 147 00:09:25,350 --> 00:09:29,430 Iran. She was also repeatedly being teased online for her 148 00:09:29,430 --> 00:09:34,500 comments. Many Iranian users in social media would ridicule her 149 00:09:34,530 --> 00:09:38,520 and tell her that she's crazy. And she actually explains that 150 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,340 she's doing very well and that it's actually the people who are 151 00:09:41,340 --> 00:09:45,150 making those comments more mentally ill. She also 152 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:49,950 criticizes Instagram by saying that her followers are all real. 153 00:09:49,980 --> 00:09:53,280 She actually has several Instagram accounts. She also had 154 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:58,170 a telegram channel before she attacked the YouTube office and 155 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,410 subsequently killed herself one of For last post there is a 156 00:10:01,410 --> 00:10:05,580 child who photo of herself posing between flowers with one 157 00:10:05,580 --> 00:10:06,870 flower stuck in her hair. 158 00:10:07,020 --> 00:10:11,520 I'm telling you, he also wrote it. He wrote it as well. I can 159 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:18,060 tell. You wrote the copy. You wrote it. Yes. That's crazy. I 160 00:10:18,060 --> 00:10:21,240 thought that was one way to get the info was a different type of 161 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:21,780 report. 162 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:24,660 Yeah, I think we should just go with this. 163 00:10:25,140 --> 00:10:31,980 I hope they do more. We did have a producer at YouTube boots on 164 00:10:31,980 --> 00:10:38,700 the ground if you're interested. Yeah. Let me see 165 00:10:39,090 --> 00:10:40,290 your smacking your lips 166 00:10:40,350 --> 00:10:45,420 I am. Because it's the first it's the birthday cake. It 167 00:10:45,420 --> 00:10:48,600 wasn't easy for me to judge since I've only got look at the 168 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,240 perpetrator holding the gun before I ran for it. However, 169 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,670 they looked very serious. They were dressed in black and he 170 00:10:53,670 --> 00:10:56,280 says they I asked him so why did you say they were there more 171 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,890 than one shooter? He says no, no. That's just how we talk 172 00:10:58,890 --> 00:11:02,400 here. I said it's Z. Okay. You got to do it. Right. 173 00:11:04,260 --> 00:11:06,060 That's a good way to confuse the country. 174 00:11:06,090 --> 00:11:09,750 Yeah. They were dressed in black, Z were dressed in black 175 00:11:09,750 --> 00:11:12,060 and my coworker who I met up with later said he thought it 176 00:11:12,060 --> 00:11:14,280 was a woman with at least part of her face covered. The 177 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,010 perpetrator was holding the gun medium sized in both hands a 178 00:11:17,010 --> 00:11:19,590 sort of way I believe you're supposed to. When I heard the 179 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:22,410 very loud popping, I looked up from my food and saw the figure 180 00:11:22,410 --> 00:11:26,340 described I was fortunate, quote unquote, to be sitting at the 181 00:11:26,340 --> 00:11:29,010 table closest to the lobby doors whereas the shooter was more in 182 00:11:29,010 --> 00:11:31,800 the center of the patio area, an aiming straight in front of her 183 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,290 at a downwards angle she could not have been more than 10 to 15 184 00:11:34,290 --> 00:11:37,350 feet from the victims that got shot. The door to our building 185 00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:40,320 requires badges to enter which slowed our escape I'd probably 186 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,770 one second but still felt like an eternity. I escaped through 187 00:11:43,770 --> 00:11:45,990 the lobby, but I think many people may have run out through 188 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:49,980 the side entrance where you don't need a badge to exit out 189 00:11:49,980 --> 00:11:51,870 that's mostly it from my account. I'd like to know how 190 00:11:51,870 --> 00:11:54,510 the shooter got in it wouldn't be too hard for them to tailgate 191 00:11:54,510 --> 00:11:57,270 someone to the outside entrance to the patio. But if they're 192 00:11:57,270 --> 00:11:59,910 familiar with the layout or lucky they could have just gone 193 00:11:59,910 --> 00:12:03,030 through the garage complex to get from the garage complex into 194 00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:05,490 the patio. There's a heavy door but for some reason the badge is 195 00:12:05,490 --> 00:12:08,370 only needed to get into the garage on the patio, not vice 196 00:12:08,370 --> 00:12:11,670 versa. And that turns out to be the way she got in actually. So 197 00:12:11,670 --> 00:12:14,820 that was a security flaw right there. boots on the ground. 198 00:12:17,940 --> 00:12:21,840 Well, I have a couple of those. I got them. Let's start with the 199 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:28,710 last report. This one came out last night on a local TV and 200 00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:33,570 this is the YouTube last shooter report with a low opinion as 201 00:12:33,570 --> 00:12:33,810 each 202 00:12:33,810 --> 00:12:36,900 hour passes. There are more revelations about the YouTube 203 00:12:36,900 --> 00:12:39,870 shooter This is our YouTube channel and the same OG DOM was 204 00:12:39,870 --> 00:12:43,170 extremely bitter with the San Bruno company saying YouTube 205 00:12:43,350 --> 00:12:47,310 changed its policy and ultimately paid her less for her 206 00:12:47,310 --> 00:12:50,670 content. As you might know YouTube pays people who have a 207 00:12:50,670 --> 00:12:53,760 big online following are dumb isn't the only one upset with 208 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,000 YouTube's new payment structure. Plenty of people worldwide are 209 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,810 accusing the company of unfair business practice, but do they 210 00:13:00,810 --> 00:13:03,990 have a valid gripe and BC bears Cinelli joins us at YouTube 211 00:13:03,990 --> 00:13:07,380 headquarters with the latest details James Raj lots 212 00:13:07,380 --> 00:13:10,320 of people who have YouTube channels say recent changes made 213 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,980 by the company are costing them 1000s of dollars a month and 214 00:13:13,980 --> 00:13:15,930 some have taken legal action 215 00:13:16,020 --> 00:13:19,620 with I'm being discriminated and filtered on YouTube. Nasim 216 00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:20,070 Aghdam 217 00:13:20,070 --> 00:13:23,790 was angry with YouTube over new policies that made it harder to 218 00:13:23,790 --> 00:13:27,720 make money from her videos. It could be why she walked onto the 219 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,750 San Bruno campus and shot three people 220 00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:34,470 I understand the anger Now the way that you should deal with 221 00:13:34,470 --> 00:13:36,840 something like this is through 222 00:13:36,900 --> 00:13:41,010 legal means. The creators of zombie goes boom don't condone 223 00:13:41,010 --> 00:13:44,760 her actions but understand her anger tweeting last night that 224 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,900 YouTube's new rules ruined livelihoods and it has blood on 225 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:53,040 its hands we are zombie go boom. Chuck me race as zombie goes 226 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,090 boom used to bring in 10 to $15,000 a month. But in March of 227 00:13:57,090 --> 00:14:00,900 last year, YouTube stopped posting ads in front of videos, 228 00:14:01,110 --> 00:14:05,190 it decided had questionable content or language. Race as 229 00:14:05,190 --> 00:14:08,520 revenue plummeted 90% overnight. 230 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,330 Our channel is 1.7 million subscribers on YouTube. We have 231 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,920 over a quarter of a billion views and we make less than a 232 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,920 part time employee at McDonald's. That's That's what 233 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,590 YouTube has done to 1000s of people 234 00:14:23,339 --> 00:14:26,279 filed a lawsuit against YouTube's parent company Google 235 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:29,339 claiming fraudulent business practices. The suit was 236 00:14:29,339 --> 00:14:33,299 dismissed as he and other content producers Simar law 237 00:14:33,299 --> 00:14:36,869 enforcement is taking a closer look at OB DOM searching her 238 00:14:36,869 --> 00:14:40,529 parents home in Riverside County and near her apartment in San 239 00:14:40,529 --> 00:14:41,129 Diego 240 00:14:41,610 --> 00:14:50,160 full again know that Jackson you that the zombie goes boom guy. 241 00:14:50,189 --> 00:14:55,559 Yeah, didn't sound that Dutch to me. Okay, no. But so 242 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,960 they're using that's the angle they're using. I mean 243 00:14:59,700 --> 00:15:03,180 a second When when this happened, I was watching MSNBC, 244 00:15:03,180 --> 00:15:05,790 as I've promised myself to do for a while. 245 00:15:05,820 --> 00:15:08,820 I know I know. I know. It makes me nauseous when you say Don't 246 00:15:08,820 --> 00:15:09,720 tell me okay, I 247 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,160 was watching the M. and I and the so the report comes on and 248 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,550 immediately, almost immediately they went to Well, it's a woman. 249 00:15:18,030 --> 00:15:21,750 We believe this is domestic dispute, you know, can't be any 250 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:26,490 kind of terrorism can't be just a crazy old white guy. It's just 251 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,930 Yeah, yeah. So just just just go along with that like that. Yeah, 252 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,660 no, oh, gee, oh, she was angry at YouTube. 253 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:41,100 Yeah, we had. I mean, every one of the reports ends up with this 254 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:43,830 kind of an ending clip play YouTube security. 255 00:15:44,130 --> 00:15:47,010 Oh, yeah, I got one about that, too, with an interesting bit 256 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,490 tonight, YouTube making changes, saying We are also revisiting 257 00:15:50,490 --> 00:15:53,520 this incident in detail. And we'll be increasing the security 258 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,400 we have at all of our offices worldwide to make them more 259 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,040 secure, not only in the near term, but long term. 260 00:15:59,070 --> 00:16:03,300 Now I have a more secure clip. With little gotchas, if you can 261 00:16:03,420 --> 00:16:03,840 hear it. 262 00:16:03,870 --> 00:16:06,870 Google owned company pledged to increase security at its 263 00:16:06,870 --> 00:16:10,830 offices, it is encouraging workers to take time off or work 264 00:16:10,830 --> 00:16:11,520 from home. 265 00:16:12,210 --> 00:16:15,600 Tonight YouTube is stepping up security worldwide after the 266 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,840 shooting at its California San Bruno headquarters. Companies 267 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,960 released New details tonight, saying the same like DOM endured 268 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,380 an outdoor courtyard through a parking garage, then opened fire 269 00:16:25,380 --> 00:16:28,740 yesterday wounding three people before killing herself. YouTube 270 00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:31,020 says security protections prevented the shooter from 271 00:16:31,020 --> 00:16:34,890 making it inside the building. And relative say Aghdam was 272 00:16:34,890 --> 00:16:38,040 angry YouTube started censoring her videos. And they warned 273 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,250 police after she disappeared. She had a problem with 274 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:48,720 YouTube. So we call that cop again. She might reason she's 275 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,730 going all the way from San Diego to that 276 00:16:50,850 --> 00:16:54,210 there was no information related the officer whatsoever that 277 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,060 there was any indication of violence that 278 00:16:57,060 --> 00:16:59,820 a police searched the home or Ogden lived in the gun range she 279 00:16:59,820 --> 00:17:02,220 visited just prior to that shooting. 280 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:08,190 Did you hear it? No. Oh, at the end. He so programmed to think 281 00:17:08,190 --> 00:17:15,540 that shooters are men that he says he played again. Why isn't 282 00:17:15,540 --> 00:17:18,660 it playing? Here we go. Google on 283 00:17:18,660 --> 00:17:22,080 consoles whoever that there was any indication of violence. 284 00:17:22,859 --> 00:17:25,649 Today police searched the home or Ogden lived in the gun range 285 00:17:25,649 --> 00:17:25,799 she 286 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,200 visited just prior to that shooting. 287 00:17:28,260 --> 00:17:32,850 He's so programmed to say he she says she No he didn't say he 288 00:17:32,850 --> 00:17:34,830 says he I listened to it several times. 289 00:17:35,070 --> 00:17:37,920 Well that was played again. Gosh, that tells me which part 290 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,020 you think. He says she goes 291 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,850 to company place to increase it 292 00:17:41,850 --> 00:17:43,710 was it was any indication of violence. 293 00:17:44,490 --> 00:17:47,310 Today police searched the home or Ogden lived in the gun range 294 00:17:47,310 --> 00:17:48,300 she visited is 295 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,180 no the gun range she visited. 296 00:17:51,899 --> 00:17:52,799 I heard she 297 00:17:53,820 --> 00:17:58,020 okay. That maybe I'm programmed to hear he How about that? 298 00:17:58,650 --> 00:18:00,240 Well, that's possible too. 299 00:18:00,270 --> 00:18:02,310 Yeah, as bad as possible. 300 00:18:02,310 --> 00:18:07,080 It's possible that I programmed the he or she goes from the Bay 301 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,670 Area. Yeah. Oh yeah. 302 00:18:09,450 --> 00:18:12,180 I still here's z i don't know maybe I'm crazy. 303 00:18:12,780 --> 00:18:15,780 Well, right. Well if you're gonna play that game, yes. I got 304 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:19,740 one for you. Okay, this is another one this is a story 305 00:18:19,740 --> 00:18:23,490 about the gun and you this YouTube story about gun 306 00:18:23,910 --> 00:18:26,340 or seeing the investigative reporter Vicki when Vicki? 307 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,270 Well Raj Nasim on Tom's Father said when YouTube changed its 308 00:18:30,270 --> 00:18:34,290 policies about which videos make money. His daughter had, quote, 309 00:18:34,350 --> 00:18:37,830 no income I've done was active on Instagram and YouTube. She 310 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:42,120 had more than 50,000 followers on Insta. She posted Farsi, 311 00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:45,810 Turkish and English. But she grew upset with YouTube as early 312 00:18:45,810 --> 00:18:50,190 as 2015. And in 2016, she posted this screenshot, claiming 313 00:18:50,190 --> 00:18:53,370 YouTube paid her only 10 cents for a video that received more 314 00:18:53,370 --> 00:18:57,060 than 300,000 views. Family members say she had no history 315 00:18:57,060 --> 00:18:59,970 of mental illness. And we learned today from San Bruno PD 316 00:18:59,970 --> 00:19:03,900 that autumns gun was registered in California, which means she 317 00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:06,960 presumably had to pass a background check that ruled out 318 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,650 any reported mental health or criminal issues. One relative 319 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:13,440 who declined to give her name said she's upset that optim was 320 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,130 able to obtain that nine millimeter handgun. She used to 321 00:19:17,130 --> 00:19:20,820 shoot and wound three people as as Adam. 322 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,500 All right, ask away. 323 00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:23,970 You already got it. 324 00:19:24,270 --> 00:19:28,170 Oh, you spotted it. Oh, the Insta that she said he uses the 325 00:19:28,170 --> 00:19:29,880 word. Reporter. 326 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,670 She's trying to be cool. She's trying to be like one of the 327 00:19:32,670 --> 00:19:33,270 kids. 328 00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:37,170 She's a reporter and she says instance. Yeah, so what's the 329 00:19:37,170 --> 00:19:37,830 gram? 330 00:19:38,700 --> 00:19:41,880 No, I think instance what all the cool kids say we say 331 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,960 they say but I say the grandma. I say the gram the gram. I know 332 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,130 you spotted right away so 333 00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:52,050 Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't hear Did you? Dang did you dig me? I 334 00:19:52,050 --> 00:19:52,740 clapped. 335 00:19:52,889 --> 00:19:58,109 Oh, I'm having problems hearing today. More than usual. I have a 336 00:19:58,139 --> 00:20:03,119 sinus pressure thing. Just crazy flex affecting my ears. I might 337 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:03,269 this 338 00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:07,920 might affect her she didn't spot Insta. As I was I thought it was 339 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,780 unprofessional personally. Oh, okay. Anyway, the last clip I 340 00:20:12,780 --> 00:20:16,770 have a you can go on with the with more security stuff but is 341 00:20:16,770 --> 00:20:20,910 the because the way they do the security thing is YouTube's when 342 00:20:20,940 --> 00:20:22,710 everyone's bitching about they're not getting enough money 343 00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:27,480 YouTube's making big changes they're gonna beef up security. 344 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,060 Yeah, just to me it's I don't know why it 345 00:20:30,060 --> 00:20:33,780 gets handout less money and beef up security. That's the strategy 346 00:20:33,930 --> 00:20:40,260 as a way to pay the guards more. But ABC tried to get some sort 347 00:20:40,260 --> 00:20:44,520 of an angle there was a lot of innuendo and and then they came 348 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,810 up with this long shot. I mean, well, MSNBC, like you pointed 349 00:20:48,810 --> 00:20:52,020 out decided it wasn't even a story because it wasn't a male 350 00:20:52,020 --> 00:20:56,430 right winger, right. ABC at least tried to make it a 351 00:20:56,430 --> 00:20:59,820 terrorist story at least make some innuendo and this is the 352 00:20:59,850 --> 00:21:01,680 tube shooter was a pilot, 353 00:21:01,980 --> 00:21:04,800 a neighbor saying it appeared Ogden threw away some of the 354 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,240 clothes she wore in these videos just days before her rampage. 355 00:21:09,810 --> 00:21:12,540 And that government joins us live outside YouTube's office in 356 00:21:12,540 --> 00:21:15,900 San Bruno bet authority site searching for clues and poring 357 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:18,390 over those videos and telling you they've learned troubling 358 00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:23,880 details about the shooters past. That's right. Federal law 359 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,670 enforcement officials telling me they are still involved in this 360 00:21:26,670 --> 00:21:29,700 case, because when they delved into her background, they found 361 00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:33,240 some red flags. For instance, she got a pilot's license from 362 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,830 the FAA just two days after 911. And some of her online activism 363 00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:41,250 also raised concern. But they are telling us tonight they are 364 00:21:41,250 --> 00:21:44,910 nearly certain she was not affiliated with any domestic or 365 00:21:44,910 --> 00:21:46,560 foreign terrorist groups, Tom. 366 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,100 So this is the way you go. So anyone who's got a pilot's 367 00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:56,100 license within five days of 911 is 368 00:21:56,100 --> 00:22:00,870 suspect very, very suspect. I say, hey, 369 00:22:00,870 --> 00:22:02,310 said what a stress. 370 00:22:02,460 --> 00:22:07,470 Have you heard any reports about? antidepressants? SSRIs. 371 00:22:07,470 --> 00:22:09,390 Anything like that? And nothing? Nothing? 372 00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:12,930 Of course not. That's never asked her she's 373 00:22:12,990 --> 00:22:15,210 she seems like she might have been a candidate. 374 00:22:15,660 --> 00:22:19,290 Oh, yeah. She seemed like, like a like kind of a lost soul. And 375 00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:22,590 I there was a couple of clips I didn't get but I'll mention it 376 00:22:22,590 --> 00:22:25,710 because it one was very funny where the sheriff says she 377 00:22:25,710 --> 00:22:29,640 apparently didn't have any gun skills. And I'm I'm thinking, 378 00:22:30,150 --> 00:22:33,990 right if she went to the range, Yeah, apparently she had no gun 379 00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:36,630 skills. That's why she went to the ratio. She can shoot it all. 380 00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:40,230 She bought the gun. And everyone bitched about how she shouldn't 381 00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:42,300 have been able to buy a gun. Yeah, if you buy a gun in 382 00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:45,210 California, you can buy a gun, so she bought a gun, decided to 383 00:22:45,210 --> 00:22:47,190 take it to the range probably had somebody shore out a 384 00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:49,680 shooter, they wouldn't have remembered her. It's not 385 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,920 everybody at the range remembers everybody who shows up. So she 386 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,980 probably took a few shots at the targets and figured okay, well 387 00:22:55,980 --> 00:22:58,950 this I can shoot it. And then she shoots a couple people in 388 00:22:58,950 --> 00:23:02,340 the legs. And and then they said, Well, she couldn't she was 389 00:23:02,340 --> 00:23:04,170 in the patio because she couldn't get into buildings she 390 00:23:04,170 --> 00:23:07,740 could have shot. Those building doors, I believe are glass from 391 00:23:07,740 --> 00:23:10,860 what I could tell. You could shoot the door out you could 392 00:23:10,860 --> 00:23:12,150 shoot the lock off of it. 393 00:23:12,210 --> 00:23:15,270 Now she wanted a surprise attack. And so she's shooting 394 00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:18,210 people in the patio and then shoots three bullets and this is 395 00:23:18,210 --> 00:23:21,780 I've no good at this. I have no gun skills and blows her head 396 00:23:21,780 --> 00:23:26,100 off. So maybe she was actually maybe that was an accident 397 00:23:26,550 --> 00:23:28,500 of blowing her head off part. 398 00:23:28,530 --> 00:23:32,730 Yeah, maybe she has such few gun skills that she shot herself in 399 00:23:32,730 --> 00:23:33,300 the head. 400 00:23:33,630 --> 00:23:34,560 I don't know. 401 00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:38,640 I don't I hate to make fun of the Yeah, I 402 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,760 don't or or of the trauma that people live through. It sucks. 403 00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:47,310 But I also have to point out that I from my own personal 404 00:23:47,310 --> 00:23:51,690 history in the Netherlands, and I've seen this in many. I'm 405 00:23:51,690 --> 00:23:56,160 opening myself up here but in the community of animal 406 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:02,130 activists, there is a lot of violence. And sometimes these 407 00:24:02,130 --> 00:24:06,990 can be very violent people. I think the act of throwing cakes 408 00:24:06,990 --> 00:24:11,340 and pies at somebody and throwing paint on people. All of 409 00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:19,020 that is is unacceptable. And no, this doesn't surprise me that 410 00:24:20,130 --> 00:24:23,280 this she was such a radical animal activist. To put it that 411 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:23,550 way. 412 00:24:24,330 --> 00:24:26,700 No, it does surprise me either. I think it's all part of the 413 00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:30,300 same. The same. I don't know what to call it. 414 00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:32,370 Oh, apparently she didn't blow her head off. She shot herself 415 00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:33,180 in the chest. 416 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,770 I did I'm right. 417 00:24:35,250 --> 00:24:40,680 It's like Oh, which way do I point it? Horrible. 418 00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:44,310 I'm not hit anything with this. Maybe I'm holding it wrong now. 419 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,790 I almost I think someone sent me a link to this. Shoot 420 00:24:47,790 --> 00:24:49,170 yourself in the chest. 421 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,760 You got to turn the gun around. Your brother. Yeah. Someone sent 422 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,270 me a link to this and I'd kind of forgotten about it. Michael 423 00:24:57,270 --> 00:25:00,990 Moore is such a nut. We were easy by the way. uh with with 424 00:25:00,990 --> 00:25:05,370 this handgun incident in California, but when he did the 425 00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:08,340 movie Bowling for Columbine, which I think is really how he 426 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:12,720 rose to fame, right? Wasn't that his his main his big, big hit 427 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,880 his big mainstream documentary hit? 428 00:25:15,209 --> 00:25:17,639 I think the big one was the General Motors one. But that was 429 00:25:17,639 --> 00:25:20,489 that before that or after that it was before his original. 430 00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:23,669 Okay, so all right now so yeah, of course. So he had already 431 00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:29,399 been huge by then Roger and me. But he came to some very 432 00:25:29,399 --> 00:25:32,069 interesting conclusions about Columbine. And I think it'd be 433 00:25:32,069 --> 00:25:35,039 interesting, in light of this shooter, who we don't know much 434 00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:38,219 about, just to listen to what he what he came up with 435 00:25:38,250 --> 00:25:41,970 in Bowling for Columbine. We never really came up with the 436 00:25:41,970 --> 00:25:45,600 answer. In terms of why this happened. I think we did a good 437 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,260 job of exposing all the reasons that were given, were a bunch of 438 00:25:49,260 --> 00:25:53,940 BS, you know, Marilyn Manson, caused them to do it, this this 439 00:25:53,940 --> 00:25:57,420 or that caused them to do it. And none of it really made any 440 00:25:57,420 --> 00:26:01,020 sense. That's why I believe there should be an investigation 441 00:26:01,170 --> 00:26:04,320 in terms of what pharmaceuticals, prescribed 442 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,930 pharmaceuticals these kids were on. And and perhaps parents, it 443 00:26:09,930 --> 00:26:14,070 would have a shocking. It would just be shocking, I think, to 444 00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:16,740 the millions of parents who prescribed this for their kids, 445 00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:19,500 if they if it was finally explained to them. If this is 446 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:23,850 the case, that this perhaps occurred for no other reason, 447 00:26:23,970 --> 00:26:27,600 other than because of these prescriptions. You imagine what 448 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,990 that would do? Imagine how people would totally rethink 449 00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:34,200 things, grasping for every little straw they can to explain 450 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,900 why something like Columbine happens, when in fact, it may be 451 00:26:37,140 --> 00:26:41,250 nothing more than this. How else do you explain to otherwise 452 00:26:41,250 --> 00:26:45,870 decent kids? Very smart, no history of violence to other 453 00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:50,130 kids in the school? Why them? Why did this happen? It's an 454 00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:53,610 extremely legitimate question to pose, and it demands an 455 00:26:53,610 --> 00:26:54,480 investigation. 456 00:26:54,570 --> 00:26:57,600 Where's that? Michael Moore? What happened to him? I liked 457 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,200 that one. 458 00:26:58,710 --> 00:27:02,160 Well, you know, he does. He does make a point. And none of these 459 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,260 school shootings ever occurred before the TV advertising of 460 00:27:07,260 --> 00:27:08,100 these drugs. There's 461 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:11,850 a strong correlation, in fact, in the timeline, 462 00:27:11,850 --> 00:27:16,110 and I don't think it's a coincidence. And he noticed it 463 00:27:16,110 --> 00:27:21,360 early on, that's very early on. It's continuing, nobody seems to 464 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:23,670 want to talk about it for good for the reason that we've 465 00:27:23,670 --> 00:27:28,020 expressed on this show, which is why we ask people to help us do 466 00:27:28,020 --> 00:27:31,500 the show by contributing directly. So we don't have to 467 00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:35,670 run ads from these companies that are really supporting the 468 00:27:35,670 --> 00:27:40,050 network's these drug companies. The network's would be half of 469 00:27:40,050 --> 00:27:42,990 them would really be rethinking everything they do if they lost 470 00:27:42,990 --> 00:27:46,410 all that advertising revenue. In fact, drug companies that 471 00:27:46,410 --> 00:27:48,540 produce some of these really dubious drugs. 472 00:27:48,570 --> 00:27:51,030 Here's a short follow up clip from Michael Moore, 473 00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:54,870 Eli Lilly Corporation, pharmaceutical company, for 474 00:27:55,020 --> 00:28:01,440 nearly 15 years covered up their own internal investigation that 475 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:08,940 showed that anyone on Prozac is 12 times more likely to attempt 476 00:28:08,940 --> 00:28:14,160 suicide than those using other antidepressants, not 12 times 477 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,300 more than the average population 12 times more than those already 478 00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:25,440 on other antidepressants. This is a criminal act. And I want to 479 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,750 know why these criminals are still walking the streets. 480 00:28:32,670 --> 00:28:35,280 Yeah, that guy. Where's that guy? 481 00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:38,700 You know, he could do a good documentary on that. But no one 482 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:39,540 would ever run it. 483 00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:43,590 Yeah. You get killed, unfortunately killed 484 00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:46,500 or the or they just would say you run this documentary. You're 485 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:48,540 not gonna get any more dollars from us. We'll just give it all 486 00:28:48,540 --> 00:28:49,410 to CBS. 487 00:28:51,090 --> 00:28:54,210 Yeah, sorry. Hit the guy where it hurts in his pocketbook. 488 00:28:54,330 --> 00:29:00,300 Yeah, true. Let me see. I don't know. Can we? I guess maybe we 489 00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:02,640 can move this a little bit too, because we just don't have 490 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,650 anything we don't know anything other than now I 491 00:29:04,650 --> 00:29:08,130 think I think is covered I think has been covered. She's done and 492 00:29:08,130 --> 00:29:11,340 that's the way it goes in this new cycle continues next week 493 00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:12,720 just won't even be a story but 494 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,360 I think we might see more of this type of violence against 495 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,980 the social nets. When you get d monetized delisted, banned 496 00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:30,900 blocked. This may be the start of a violent backlash. And I 497 00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:35,160 have for later on the show I have I listen to Ezra Klein 498 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,270 interview with Zuckerberg. As you hear that. You haven't heard 499 00:29:39,270 --> 00:29:43,350 it good. I have heard it. Oh, you had the whole thing? No, no. 500 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,200 Okay, so I pulled a couple clips. We'll be able to listen 501 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:52,680 to that. But we did have you seen two other clips? Oh, yeah. 502 00:29:53,550 --> 00:29:56,280 You might have seen this. It wasn't till I wasn't even going 503 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,070 to clip this one until I saw it run on TV and I thought it was 504 00:29:59,070 --> 00:30:02,910 funny. Just eat In the audio, this is Nicole Wallace on MSNBC 505 00:30:02,910 --> 00:30:05,490 and so they have the box she's got a guest in the studio in a 506 00:30:05,490 --> 00:30:10,590 box to her right or to her left for the viewer with you know the 507 00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:16,110 helicopter video or a sky shot of the YouTube headquarters and 508 00:30:16,110 --> 00:30:19,890 someone opens up a Pepsi can in the studio google 509 00:30:19,890 --> 00:30:24,420 and youtube as it becomes available. Steve Schmidt I 510 00:30:25,380 --> 00:30:32,010 always go back to the horror of 911 and the complete reliance 511 00:30:32,010 --> 00:30:35,160 you know, we are in our tribes were in our corners most of our 512 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,460 lives. I think we just heard some gunshots listen to that for 513 00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:43,710 a second. Not gunshots Okay. They'll tell us if there's 514 00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:44,010 something 515 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,350 I think we just heard some gunshots could from 516 00:30:49,290 --> 00:30:53,400 me here it sounds like somebody's opening up and miking 517 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,690 it. Yeah. 518 00:30:55,470 --> 00:30:58,230 I think I haven't gotten there. Her reaction is priceless. I 519 00:30:58,230 --> 00:31:00,570 think we're hearing gunshots control room. Can you confirm 520 00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:02,550 that? Karissa konjac is that gunshot? 521 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,500 These people are the worst. 522 00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:12,690 Here is David Hogg. He's getting kind of high on the hog 523 00:31:12,690 --> 00:31:18,450 actually. He I guess Bill O'Reilly wrote something or went 524 00:31:18,450 --> 00:31:23,280 somewhere and you know if as if you still relevant, and accused 525 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,350 this kid of taking money from Soros. For from shadowy figures, 526 00:31:28,350 --> 00:31:31,740 shadowy figures in the background, here's his priceless 527 00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:32,400 response. 528 00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:35,850 I mean, I'm pretty well lit. I don't see any shadowy figures 529 00:31:35,850 --> 00:31:42,330 behind me. I mean, honestly, if he sees powerful shattering 530 00:31:42,390 --> 00:31:45,570 shadowy groups as corporate America standing with us, okay, 531 00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:48,270 yes, it doesn't really make sense. But what I want to get on 532 00:31:48,270 --> 00:31:51,150 from is the negativity in this situation and I want to focus on 533 00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:53,760 what's ahead for our movement. It's really what we need to be 534 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,370 focusing on is the positivity and really bringing everybody 535 00:31:56,370 --> 00:31:58,620 together. And that's the first thing that we have coming up are 536 00:31:58,620 --> 00:32:01,080 the town halls on April 7, that we're trying to get in every 537 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,800 congressional district and I think what when Bill says these 538 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,310 things, 539 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,970 I love how it uses bill you know, like my colleague over 540 00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:13,200 there to you know, former Fox News calling Bill Bill and Laura 541 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,460 and Don and 542 00:32:14,490 --> 00:32:18,810 I think what when Bill says these things and when Laura says 543 00:32:18,810 --> 00:32:22,620 these things, I I'm fine when they disagree with my policies, 544 00:32:22,620 --> 00:32:25,290 that's absolutely okay. But I have a problem with is when they 545 00:32:25,290 --> 00:32:28,410 attack me or anybody else personally, why what does that 546 00:32:28,410 --> 00:32:31,920 accomplish? It doesn't make any sense. I'm not I don't have any 547 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,850 shadowy figures behind me. At least I don't see any. I'm 548 00:32:35,850 --> 00:32:39,390 pretty well lit, and I'm just a kid that uses Twitter and he if 549 00:32:39,390 --> 00:32:42,060 he sees me as powerful, that's okay. I don't see myself that 550 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:45,600 way. But honestly, we're trying to use our First Amendment 551 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,760 rights and serve as corporate America and if he stands against 552 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,130 that, that's fine, but we're gonna they're standing with us 553 00:32:50,130 --> 00:32:52,110 and we're gonna stand with that. Guy babbles to 554 00:32:52,110 --> 00:32:54,690 me, he just he just wanted corporate America to stand by 555 00:32:54,690 --> 00:32:55,860 him which is great. 556 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,180 I think you should do as ISO of I'm pretty well lit pretty well 557 00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:06,480 lit. Oh, man, I'm really high. I'm pretty well lit. Yeah, I 558 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,860 should do pretty well lit. 559 00:33:07,950 --> 00:33:11,520 I should do that. I forgot to Chris Wilson sent in a little 560 00:33:11,550 --> 00:33:13,920 little preview of his end of show mixed with this whole 561 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:23,250 YouTube thing. Don't don't know was so sick don't 562 00:33:24,930 --> 00:33:32,670 community strong the whole side down. 563 00:33:33,570 --> 00:33:38,220 So you can look forward to the full song at the end. I 564 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,110 have to I have a little side thing to do here. First is the 565 00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:46,710 Tesla April Fool's gag, which we should at least do a little 566 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,220 follow up on. And then I have my clip that I wanted. I finally 567 00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:52,470 found I've got that one. I see as 568 00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:55,860 well. They may have gotten some laughs But Tesla took a big hit 569 00:33:55,860 --> 00:33:59,160 because of an April Fool's joke. Here it is. Elon Musk posted 570 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,920 this to Twitter yesterday saying that the company was going 571 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,530 bankrupt. While a lot of people were looking out for jokes. The 572 00:34:04,530 --> 00:34:08,010 timing of this tweet may have put Tesla shares into a deep 573 00:34:08,010 --> 00:34:10,950 slide as we mentioned earlier in the newscast, the NTSB is 574 00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:14,280 investigating a deadly crash involving a Tesla that was in 575 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,360 autopilot mode. Tesla shares fell about 8% this morning to 576 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,190 their lowest level in nearly a year. 577 00:34:20,970 --> 00:34:23,910 Yeah, that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen anyone do any 578 00:34:23,910 --> 00:34:28,350 never said April Fool's actually violated the whole gain. 579 00:34:28,350 --> 00:34:28,830 Interesting. 580 00:34:28,830 --> 00:34:31,200 You say that because I was waiting for him to say April 581 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:37,620 Fool's on that and April Fool's on the flame thrower. And you 582 00:34:37,620 --> 00:34:39,480 actually not a lot of people know this, but you were pretty 583 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,150 famous back in the day for your April Fool's gas 584 00:34:42,150 --> 00:34:46,800 I had done I've done quite a few good ones. I got in the hall 585 00:34:46,830 --> 00:34:50,070 hoax Hall of Fame with one of them. Oh, which one was that? I 586 00:34:50,070 --> 00:34:54,750 believe that was the one way said that, that Patrick Leahy, 587 00:34:54,870 --> 00:34:57,030 who it got wind of this and to get irked about it by the way. 588 00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:04,020 Patrick Leigh he was working on a bill To make being intoxicated 589 00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:08,490 well on the internet of felony, because these guys and then 590 00:35:08,490 --> 00:35:12,090 where I played it was that these guys are so stupid that because 591 00:35:12,090 --> 00:35:17,220 it was dubbed the information highway they felt it was like 592 00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:20,580 drunk driving DUI. And they didn't know the difference 593 00:35:20,580 --> 00:35:23,280 between one and the other. And so I played it from that 594 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,430 perspective, which is a way to do it April Fool's vegans take 595 00:35:26,430 --> 00:35:29,070 something real and then twist it into something and then people 596 00:35:29,070 --> 00:35:32,850 say, Oh, these guys are so stupid. And of course, the whole 597 00:35:32,850 --> 00:35:37,800 thing was bullshit. And that was one of them. I also had one that 598 00:35:38,340 --> 00:35:42,060 which got in the front page of the Sioux City newspaper, Sioux 599 00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:45,600 City, Sioux City, Sioux City. This is where I'm at on up 600 00:35:45,630 --> 00:35:49,560 gateway was gateway computers and it got above the fold right 601 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,130 at the top. I think was it this is a Sioux City of Sioux Falls 602 00:35:53,999 --> 00:36:01,229 above the fold below. Above the below the title. Oh, you print 603 00:36:01,229 --> 00:36:03,239 Maven. You use in 604 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:06,030 olden days just before the internet you're still excited 605 00:36:06,030 --> 00:36:09,960 about it. Well, I got a kick out of it. All right. Because above 606 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,310 the whole thing, how did you launch 607 00:36:11,310 --> 00:36:13,860 it? You had no email. How did you launch it? How did you know 608 00:36:13,860 --> 00:36:14,430 webs? 609 00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:17,370 This all went into magazine. 610 00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:21,810 Oh, print. Yeah. Nice. Geez. Anyway, you 611 00:36:21,810 --> 00:36:25,290 want to hear the story? Yes. You asked for the story. I asked for 612 00:36:25,290 --> 00:36:27,690 one. You're gonna give me the second. I think it was it Sioux 613 00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:30,960 City of Sioux Falls, the chatroom should know, anyways, 614 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:36,330 it's a big town and Dakotas. I made the assertion it was just I 615 00:36:36,330 --> 00:36:42,840 wrote it up as a news item is that Ted Wade and the boys at 616 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,730 the Gateway can 2000 computer company isn't a 90s we're we're 617 00:36:47,730 --> 00:36:51,330 buying the town name and they were going to change the name of 618 00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:57,510 Sioux Falls or Sioux City which of the two to Gateway city? And 619 00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:58,800 it was I played it straight. 620 00:36:58,830 --> 00:37:00,270 I think I remember this. Yeah, 621 00:37:00,299 --> 00:37:03,419 yeah, they're gonna be gateway city. And they got everybody got 622 00:37:03,419 --> 00:37:06,929 bent out of shape. So they wrote this article, I read the paper. 623 00:37:08,190 --> 00:37:10,860 And you how'd you do the April Fool's, you put that in the 624 00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:12,600 magazine as well, the way it's done 625 00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:15,810 the way the way I would always do it is I'd have about five 626 00:37:15,810 --> 00:37:19,950 hints in there that this was a gag. I would put the date I do I 627 00:37:19,950 --> 00:37:26,160 always have the spokesperson was always lupus LWF. Which is April 628 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,770 Fool's spelled backwards. I mean, if you can't get that, at 629 00:37:28,770 --> 00:37:32,220 that point, you're an idiot. Yeah. And there's a lot of 630 00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:32,730 hints. 631 00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:37,170 There. There was actually there was a pretty good one. This year 632 00:37:37,170 --> 00:37:40,500 was didn't get enough play. I felt Lexus and 23andme. Did you 633 00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:45,360 see that? Yeah. They did a commercial, very professional 634 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,420 commercial. It was it was completely produced. And it was 635 00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:52,680 extremely believable. And the idea was, and I clicked it, but 636 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,370 it doesn't work without video. And it's really well done. It 637 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,360 looks like a Lexus commercial, because it is. And the idea is 638 00:38:00,390 --> 00:38:05,370 you give your DNA to Lexus. And they customize. Oh, yes. I saw 639 00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:08,100 this commercial. And then at the end, there's a couple of 640 00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:10,080 giveaways of it. There's a parser there's a couple of 641 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,860 giveaways. One is she's spitting into the test tube right there 642 00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:16,170 in the commercial, which is not at all flattering. I'm like, 643 00:38:16,170 --> 00:38:19,440 Nah, that was Hold on a second. What's going on here? And then 644 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,280 at the very end, I'm like, oh my god, this is crazy. Are they 645 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,060 insane? What's happening? The very end to start the car She 646 00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:30,600 licks the steering wheel and it recognizes her DNA and starts 647 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,960 and drives off. It was well done. That's funny. It was very 648 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,290 good. I didn't see the whole thing. But Elon Musk should be 649 00:38:37,290 --> 00:38:37,830 arrested. 650 00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:41,010 I thought so. I thought that you did sunk the stock if you were 651 00:38:41,010 --> 00:38:43,620 trading it. You may have lost money. This was the stupidest 652 00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:45,660 thing I've ever seen when you can't do this legally. 653 00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:50,130 Honestly, I sunk the stock. I mean, I told you get well. 654 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:58,140 I had I found I found the old rave. You raving and raving 655 00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:02,430 about the machine and 2017 is what I criticized you for. And 656 00:39:02,430 --> 00:39:05,880 so I have a clip I finally taken out of context just a small 657 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:11,520 part. No, no, this is every disc. This is your words. In the 658 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,900 order you said them. And it's also i Okay, I tightened up a 659 00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:20,100 little few because there's a lot of ohms that like cut it down a 660 00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:22,950 little bit but because I didn't want to go on forever. I got one 661 00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:25,710 minute 41 seconds it's pretty much summarizes your feelings 662 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,770 up and I 35 can get pretty gnarly. Let me tell you 663 00:39:28,770 --> 00:39:33,360 something. This this car blew my mind with autopilot. I did not 664 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,140 drive to New Braunfels. The car drove itself. Oh, that's nice. 665 00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:41,340 Come from stop and go traffic. We were on the web browser. 666 00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:45,120 We're connected phones and the car is just driving by In fact, 667 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,330 at a certain point, we have to get off i 35. And I'm thinking I 668 00:39:48,330 --> 00:39:52,080 wonder if it'll actually just do that too. That's how comfortable 669 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,970 it felt. lane changes. 670 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,490 Click I never drove one with that feature. 671 00:39:56,610 --> 00:40:00,150 Oh my god. No, I'm very familiar with adaptive cruise. lose 672 00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:03,240 control and with with systems that keep you in your lane that 673 00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:06,540 will kind of bump you back into the lane. But this was an 674 00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:11,400 absolute mind boggling experience any car I have in the 675 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,330 future. I want this technology in it. Tina loves it. She loves 676 00:40:15,330 --> 00:40:20,520 the minimalism of as you think is fantastic. And but also just 677 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,000 the feeling that we're tootling along said, Hey, let's just see 678 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,120 how the pickup is when we're doing 70. You know, I floor the 679 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,060 thing. It's unbelievable. There's no doubt about it. This 680 00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:33,930 is an unbelievable beast of a machine. So again, on the way 681 00:40:33,930 --> 00:40:38,310 back, I just love the technology of the car. I think the sound 682 00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:41,340 sound system was okay. There's a lot of extras I don't know if he 683 00:40:41,340 --> 00:40:44,520 has the super sound system and this suspension and all that. 684 00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:48,930 But again, the car is driving itself. I am absolutely loving 685 00:40:48,930 --> 00:40:53,100 this this experience and made me feel great about saving the 686 00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:57,360 world from climate change. absolutely outstanding. almost 687 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:03,540 bought. This car is every imaginary scenario, except for 688 00:41:03,780 --> 00:41:06,330 picking up chicks at the Waterberg. absolutely 689 00:41:06,330 --> 00:41:15,630 outstanding. You dick first of all, I gave John the link from 690 00:41:15,630 --> 00:41:19,500 no agenda player.com And I listened to the whole thing you 691 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:22,680 just cut that up. You butchered it. You were horrible, man. How 692 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:28,830 long did you spend on that? Two days? That was good. That was 693 00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:30,780 good. That was good. was 694 00:41:31,170 --> 00:41:34,230 good. I'll tell you I've done we'll brag about one clip. One 695 00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:40,380 thing I did you and I think because you're like a very good 696 00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:43,830 editor, and I think I can hold my own by there was a couple 697 00:41:43,830 --> 00:41:46,350 more things. I really had to spend a lot of time getting just 698 00:41:46,350 --> 00:41:50,400 a little new one bit of information. But on the one I 699 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,300 was trying to fix it nice. It was this cut you said and 700 00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:57,180 usually Billy actually played this against how good I did this 701 00:41:57,180 --> 00:42:00,630 because it was it was a luck shot. You said this car is 702 00:42:00,660 --> 00:42:02,670 unsuitable. And you 703 00:42:07,230 --> 00:42:10,410 You did a good job. That was I'm like, wait a minute. I know 704 00:42:10,410 --> 00:42:14,880 exactly what's in that. I just heard it. This is okay, you got 705 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:20,760 me. What I was gonna say is yes, that's the day I bought. And I 706 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:31,650 sold April 1. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay, good one. You got me. Ah. 707 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,140 All right. What else we got here? Yeah, 708 00:42:34,140 --> 00:42:36,750 let me see if we got. Did I have anything else on? Oh, yeah. 709 00:42:36,750 --> 00:42:39,660 Well, there is. This was interesting. That is someone 710 00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:42,210 asked me this is constitutional. I believe it is. But it's just 711 00:42:42,210 --> 00:42:44,700 something that we should maybe discuss briefly. The vote came 712 00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:46,680 in at badasses, Deerfield Illinois 713 00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:50,280 an hour ago and it was unanimous the village opting for a ban on 714 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,840 specific types of firearms. And essentially what that means is a 715 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,320 complete ban on semi automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns 716 00:42:58,470 --> 00:43:01,920 containing certain features and magazines containing more than 717 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,800 10 rounds of ammunition. Law enforcement of retired law 718 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,560 enforcement are exempt by the adjustments to local law, the 719 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,950 debate before the vote at times heated and passionate. 720 00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:15,300 There's going to be lots of talk about second amendment rights. 721 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:22,410 But I'd be hard pressed to find any right that is completely 722 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,820 unrestricted. 723 00:43:23,970 --> 00:43:28,560 We have police Yeah, they had them in Florida to imagine how 724 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,560 those teachers and those kids folks and look up that window at 725 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,670 that cup hiding behind that tree. I bet they wish they had a 726 00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:37,560 gun versus a phone in their hands. 727 00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:41,730 And the why is is very similar to the one that is currently in 728 00:43:41,730 --> 00:43:46,050 place in Highland Park. The band goes into effect June 30. And 729 00:43:46,050 --> 00:43:49,530 after that those with a noted firearms could be fined up to 730 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,870 $1,000 per day that they possess those noted firearms. We are 731 00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:58,020 live in Deerfield, Jeremy Ross, CBS two news. 732 00:43:58,110 --> 00:44:00,930 So the question is, is that constitutional? I believe it is 733 00:44:01,350 --> 00:44:06,000 what? That they can ban a certain they could ban a gun in 734 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,770 their city or municipality. 735 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,800 Well, they did a they do that in Washington, DC and I think it's 736 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,580 been upheld. 737 00:44:14,910 --> 00:44:18,150 I can see why that's a community decision. 738 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,680 Yeah, that's yeah, 739 00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:20,850 it's just the federal government. 740 00:44:21,420 --> 00:44:23,490 It's about the about the federal government. Yeah, 741 00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:26,670 it's not about the local government. So yeah, yeah. Why 742 00:44:26,670 --> 00:44:30,240 don't they just do that? Do a town by town we'll go shutting 743 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:37,200 them down. Just in time, our favorite resource on the 744 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,870 internet for definitions. Merriam Webster has changed the 745 00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:53,820 definition of assault rifle. Yes. Here we go. Assault Rifle. 746 00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:59,430 Any of various intermediate range magazine fed military 747 00:44:59,430 --> 00:45:04,710 rifles such as the AK 47 That can be set for automatic or semi 748 00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:09,720 automatic fire also a rifle that resembles a military assault 749 00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:13,920 rifle but is designed to allow only semi automatic fire to the 750 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:19,800 added the also it resembles what kind of definition is that 751 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:25,440 resembles means if it looks nasty, I know what it means but 752 00:45:26,130 --> 00:45:29,850 now resembles a millet so that could just be colors. 753 00:45:32,250 --> 00:45:33,900 Yeah, we were the camo. 754 00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:41,400 Yeah, exactly the camo, and very strange. And then just some 755 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,770 confirmation even though we already had figured this one out 756 00:45:43,770 --> 00:45:49,050 pretty quickly, the march for our lives. March. If these kids 757 00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:51,180 were all getting ready to organize in April, which would 758 00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:54,450 have been about now and they were going to do this big walk 759 00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:57,450 out of school and then all of a sudden notice it's been March. 760 00:45:57,450 --> 00:46:03,390 It's called the march for our lives. Here we go. DC police 761 00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:10,860 confirmed that the march for our lives people booked and got 762 00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:12,900 their permits months in advance 763 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,560 Yeah, well they still put the kibosh on it didn't they 764 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,600 wouldn't let a march Well 765 00:46:22,740 --> 00:46:26,760 no, I think they they didn't have permission for a rally but 766 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,690 the point is this whole thing was set up months in advance for 767 00:46:30,690 --> 00:46:33,060 this for a more i don't know i It's unclear to me if it was 768 00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:37,920 called march for our lives. But the permits were given out way 769 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,880 before the shooting took place. Oh yeah, so that's that's the 770 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,560 timeline is interesting in this case 771 00:46:43,590 --> 00:46:50,910 am scam well yeah, it's a scam. Absolutely. Maybe the guys who 772 00:46:50,910 --> 00:46:55,230 put the guys who got the permits. Were the ones behind 773 00:46:55,230 --> 00:46:57,570 the shooting so they can get more people to come to the road 774 00:46:57,570 --> 00:46:58,050 march 775 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:04,170 Get off my beat. Even I wouldn't suggest that. Even I wouldn't 776 00:47:04,170 --> 00:47:07,950 suggest it. Did you see Spotify? Go go public? 777 00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:14,160 Yes, I did. 165 went up to 165. This stock is worthless. This 778 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,870 isn't one of those 50 cent stocks. 779 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,090 You know what's what's interesting? And actually I'd 780 00:47:18,090 --> 00:47:24,750 like to correct the DH unplugged sister podcast because I think 781 00:47:24,750 --> 00:47:28,260 you guys know it, but it didn't really came out wrong. There 782 00:47:28,260 --> 00:47:31,620 were no shares issued at this IPO there was no money raised. 783 00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:34,950 This was just an exit. No, it's just going public. Yeah, this 784 00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:38,460 was just an this was an exit if they didn't. If they weren't 785 00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:43,230 public, I think it was by June. Then they'd have to, you know, 786 00:47:43,350 --> 00:47:46,770 cut millions more shares to everybody and there's all these 787 00:47:46,770 --> 00:47:49,020 penalties and everything so they're like Yeah, screw it. 788 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,720 I got to reverse merger. Yeah, I 789 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:53,430 don't know about 50 cents. I think 790 00:47:55,410 --> 00:47:57,210 it's never made a nickel. No, of course 791 00:47:57,210 --> 00:48:01,980 not. But just by by the typical standards, I think $50 There was 792 00:48:01,980 --> 00:48:03,330 there was no shares to short 793 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,010 at all. No, no, we did it on our game, though. Because 794 00:48:08,310 --> 00:48:12,270 Oh, on CNBC actually called me to do an appearance about the 795 00:48:12,270 --> 00:48:17,790 Spotify IPO. Oh, you should have no, no. What am I going to say? 796 00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:21,510 You know exactly. If you get already you go to a studio 797 00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:21,960 anyway, let 798 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,400 me get hold on. So Mr. Mr. Curry, yes, yes. Yeah. Let me 799 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,890 I'm gonna, I'm gonna just do the whole thing. Okay. Remember, 800 00:48:29,609 --> 00:48:33,809 let me tell you the personal preface by saying the angle is 801 00:48:33,809 --> 00:48:37,439 MTV Music Technology. Sure. 802 00:48:37,530 --> 00:48:41,070 Okay. Yeah. All right. I'll tell you what, you'll be the M MSNBC 803 00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:44,850 or CNBC guy. I'll be you. I'll be curry this is what I expect 804 00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:45,480 to hear. 805 00:48:45,509 --> 00:48:49,349 Right now. We have another person who is very interested in 806 00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:53,429 this very interesting to talk to but it comes to the Spotify IPO 807 00:48:53,429 --> 00:48:56,699 we heard from Gene Simmons, a legendary frontman from Kiss 808 00:48:56,699 --> 00:49:01,409 earlier. And this guy has been around for lots of revolutionary 809 00:49:01,409 --> 00:49:05,249 technologies. When it comes to music. Please say hello to 810 00:49:05,819 --> 00:49:13,679 former MTV VJ and currently host of a podcast. Adam Barry. 811 00:49:14,220 --> 00:49:15,660 Thanks so good to be on. 812 00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:20,100 So Adam, what is your feeling about Spotify in general? Do you 813 00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:23,640 think that it's the cultural shift? That will save the music 814 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,330 business? 815 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,570 Well, I think what we should be talking about is Michael Jackson 816 00:49:27,570 --> 00:49:28,380 being murdered. 817 00:49:32,910 --> 00:49:40,980 And back to Gene Simmons. I'm an idiot. You're so right. I should 818 00:49:40,980 --> 00:49:46,110 have done that. I should have done that. Ah, stupid. is 819 00:49:46,110 --> 00:49:51,300 actually one of our producers. Is a booker. He's the one he's 820 00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:55,590 the one that takes it on and big fan of the show the podcast. Any 821 00:49:55,590 --> 00:49:58,890 sincere I could tell. So 822 00:49:59,310 --> 00:50:02,520 we have a we have A listener who's one of the producers is 823 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,750 yes, yes and Booker, 824 00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:05,370 Booker Booker, 825 00:50:05,610 --> 00:50:06,930 but here's producers, here's 826 00:50:06,930 --> 00:50:12,720 the real travesty. This is the story that's unreported. All the 827 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:16,470 music business executives, all these companies, everyone had 828 00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:19,830 shares, who the people didn't have shares with the artists, 829 00:50:19,860 --> 00:50:23,850 they had no shares. But yeah, all of them all of their all the 830 00:50:23,850 --> 00:50:27,750 a&r managers, all these guys, like, hey, you know, get it on 831 00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:31,080 Spotify client should Yeah, do that. And you should make your 832 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,560 own Spotify list with all the cool songs, you know, the stuff 833 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,960 that you really like, doesn't really matter doesn't have to be 834 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,720 on our label, just anything you know, just and then promoted 835 00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:44,010 promoted on your Twitter. And so these guys, they raped the 836 00:50:44,010 --> 00:50:49,650 artists twice by not giving him cutting him in on any deal, or 837 00:50:49,650 --> 00:50:54,630 any shares or anything. And then by actively helping them promote 838 00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:59,280 and create the fictitious value, that they then monetize, they 839 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,820 cashed in on again on the back of the artists and are the 840 00:51:02,820 --> 00:51:08,280 artists stupid? Are they stupid? Do you not see this? They're 841 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:14,400 artists. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. How about their managers? So you 842 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,500 know what it is? It's collusion. Yeah, the managers the managers 843 00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:25,260 were in on the IPO it's just so sad. Oh, says fools I tell you 844 00:51:25,260 --> 00:51:30,480 fools it's the same with the with YouTube and all this money 845 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,300 this internet money go look at the South Park internet money 846 00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:37,080 episode. That will explain it perfectly. 847 00:51:37,379 --> 00:51:48,209 Internet money Yeah. Yeah couple of things happened the Mexican 848 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,929 way this makes it up we made a big fuss over caravan. 849 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,700 No, it was spotted caravan was part of it. But they but I think 850 00:51:56,700 --> 00:52:00,270 which is why a Trump put the National Guard at the border and 851 00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:04,590 of course all the you know, your boys had MSNBC, it was all Oh 852 00:52:04,590 --> 00:52:04,890 Ha, 853 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,340 I'm just gonna assert one thing. I'm going to assert that this 854 00:52:08,340 --> 00:52:13,500 story was launched on purpose by Trump to get the troop the 855 00:52:13,530 --> 00:52:16,650 national guard on the border. This thing was a setup from the 856 00:52:16,650 --> 00:52:17,310 beginning. 857 00:52:17,759 --> 00:52:21,179 It could be but the real point that I always thought was that 858 00:52:21,179 --> 00:52:24,839 they're making a big fuss about this. And in fact, Bush put the 859 00:52:24,839 --> 00:52:28,679 national guard on the border, Hama and Obama put the national 860 00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:30,419 white so he's doing it to wait, 861 00:52:30,779 --> 00:52:35,519 hold on, Obama not only put 1200 troops National Guard on the 862 00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:39,599 border in Yuma on the border, but he also charged the American 863 00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:44,399 public, half a billion dollars for it. He raised 500 million 864 00:52:44,429 --> 00:52:49,799 for this operation. So anyone saying anything is full of crap. 865 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,680 Well, what they tried to do at ABC was bring it in, conflate it 866 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,340 with it to make it sound as though he's doing this because 867 00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:02,160 Mueller is out to get him. Oh, he's 868 00:53:02,370 --> 00:53:02,850 stretched. 869 00:53:03,870 --> 00:53:07,980 I love to put the two stories together. You're listening to 870 00:53:07,980 --> 00:53:11,580 way Listen to the way they do it on ABC. This is ABC This is the 871 00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:15,750 beginning ABC border announcement and lie. Next a 872 00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:18,510 stunning announcement from the White House National Guard 873 00:53:18,510 --> 00:53:21,510 troops will head to the border with Mexico as soon as tonight 874 00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:24,690 and it comes as sources a special counsel Robert Muller 875 00:53:24,690 --> 00:53:27,840 told the president's legal team in recent weeks that he was 876 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,690 under investigation suits NBC chief White House correspondent 877 00:53:30,690 --> 00:53:30,990 Jonathan 878 00:53:30,990 --> 00:53:34,230 Cole Wow. brazen that's incredible. 879 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,930 Unbelievable. Yeah. 880 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,350 Because you got you got also say it comes you know, this is all a 881 00:53:40,350 --> 00:53:43,620 plot by YouTube to distract from people killing them. 882 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,650 It's it's really, I don't know what to even what to say. But 883 00:53:49,650 --> 00:53:55,110 it's just ABC trying to I mean, that's two separate stories just 884 00:53:55,110 --> 00:53:56,130 got done once guys. 885 00:53:57,090 --> 00:54:01,470 I gotta give you a borderline that was least that was at least 886 00:54:01,470 --> 00:54:03,180 a borderline that was worth a borderline. 887 00:54:03,450 --> 00:54:07,230 So here is the second part where they bring in our guy, you know 888 00:54:07,230 --> 00:54:10,560 the news correspondent, White House correspondent. And this is 889 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,360 Mexican border announcement in lie 890 00:54:12,450 --> 00:54:15,990 to a day after the president surprised his own top advisors 891 00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:19,170 by floating the idea of using the military to secure the 892 00:54:19,170 --> 00:54:22,620 border with Mexico. We're going to be guarding our border with 893 00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:25,500 the military. The White House made it official announcing he 894 00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:28,530 is signing the order and the National Guard could be on its 895 00:54:28,530 --> 00:54:30,060 way as early as tonight 896 00:54:30,090 --> 00:54:32,880 we do you hope that the deployment begins immediately. 897 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,140 The Homeland Security 898 00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:38,130 Secretary could not say how many troops or how much it would cost 899 00:54:38,310 --> 00:54:42,000 as for what they'll do. US troops cannot do law enforcement 900 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,120 functions such as arresting illegal border crossers. This 901 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,510 would be a support role, such as helping with surveillance, 902 00:54:48,690 --> 00:54:52,350 it will be strong it will be as many as is needed to fill the 903 00:54:52,350 --> 00:54:55,260 gaps that we have today is what I can't tell you. So we'll go 904 00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:56,430 through and make sure 905 00:54:56,610 --> 00:54:59,550 just last week, the President also suggested he would use 906 00:54:59,550 --> 00:55:03,180 military Harry funds to build his border wall. Does the 907 00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:07,380 President have the authority to use money that Congress has 908 00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:10,140 appropriated to the Department of Defense to build the border 909 00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:10,410 wall? 910 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,010 What he meant was there are some lands that the Department of 911 00:55:14,010 --> 00:55:18,000 Defense owns that right on the border that are actually areas 912 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,390 where we see illicit activity. We're looking into options for 913 00:55:21,390 --> 00:55:24,360 the military to build wall on military installations on the 914 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,560 border. But Pentagon 915 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,220 officials tell ABC News, the US military has no land on the 916 00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:32,670 Mexican border. The closest is the Air Force is Goldwater 917 00:55:32,670 --> 00:55:36,540 practice range in Arizona, which is not actually on the border. 918 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,530 Meanwhile, regarding the special counsel investigation, ABC News 919 00:55:40,530 --> 00:55:43,620 has confirmed President Trump has been informed by Robert 920 00:55:43,620 --> 00:55:47,700 Muller's team, that he is not at this point, a criminal target of 921 00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:51,060 the investigation, but he is a subject of the investigation. 922 00:55:51,060 --> 00:55:54,420 And therefore, Muller wants to interview him. Wow. 923 00:55:55,110 --> 00:55:57,780 It's the hits. Just keep on coming with these guys. 924 00:55:58,140 --> 00:56:01,590 Now, the worst part about this particular one, and I have this 925 00:56:02,670 --> 00:56:09,330 sorry, yeah, I have the two ISOs put back to back is that Yamahas 926 00:56:09,330 --> 00:56:14,340 Tom Yamas, who's doing is sitting in for David Muir. He 927 00:56:14,460 --> 00:56:20,190 indicates one thing in his in his opening, which is that Trump 928 00:56:20,190 --> 00:56:25,050 is under investigation. And then this guy, the White House 929 00:56:25,050 --> 00:56:28,110 correspondent says he's not under investigation. He's just 930 00:56:28,110 --> 00:56:29,580 kind of a person of interest. 931 00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:33,270 Just he's just a person involved in the whole story, I think is 932 00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:34,050 what that means. 933 00:56:34,110 --> 00:56:39,000 Yeah. And so this is like misleading. Now I have the two 934 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,640 of them back to back. Now you listen to the intro, which to me 935 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,910 is always when the anchor comes out to that. That's the 936 00:56:44,910 --> 00:56:49,410 headline. So this is a misleading headline by ABC. And 937 00:56:49,410 --> 00:56:52,230 then it's corrected in the main part of the story. But I think 938 00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:54,720 by then it's already ingrained in your brain that they're out 939 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:58,110 to get Trump and he's under he's under investigation. The snake 940 00:56:58,110 --> 00:56:59,010 comes as sources 941 00:56:59,010 --> 00:57:02,340 a special counsel Robert Muller told the president's legal team 942 00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:04,980 in recent weeks that he was under investigation, 943 00:57:05,009 --> 00:57:07,589 President Trump has been informed by Robert Muller's 944 00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:11,399 team, that he is not at this point, a criminal target of the 945 00:57:11,399 --> 00:57:14,669 investigation. But he is a subject of the investigation. 946 00:57:14,669 --> 00:57:18,029 And therefore, Muller wants to interview him a subject 947 00:57:18,030 --> 00:57:18,510 Yes. 948 00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:19,560 Oh, please. 949 00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:25,109 I thought this was incredibly misleading. And this is just the 950 00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:29,039 lowest of the day. This is really reaching down there ABC 951 00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:31,769 trying to compete, I guess, with NBC has really gone off the deep 952 00:57:31,769 --> 00:57:32,819 end on this stuff. 953 00:57:33,180 --> 00:57:36,660 Well, it must be ratings. It's got to be good somehow, 954 00:57:36,660 --> 00:57:39,900 somewhere. I think you just you just got to pepper every story 955 00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:40,050 with 956 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,180 I don't think it's good for ratings at all. I don't see that 957 00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:45,780 the ratings are doing that. Well. ABC is the number one of 958 00:57:45,780 --> 00:57:50,040 the group. Yeah, supposedly, yeah. But I don't know that 959 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,640 their ratings are going about proving but for sure. Liars. We 960 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,630 barely have any news in this country. In our country. We 961 00:57:57,630 --> 00:58:01,380 barely have any news. I agree. It's just It's just Oh, Trump, 962 00:58:01,380 --> 00:58:05,190 Trump, Trump, Muller, blah, blah, blah. Hey, but what did 963 00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:10,650 you think of our DHS Secretary Christian Nielsen? I'm liking 964 00:58:10,650 --> 00:58:15,840 her. i It's this this woman she was in that clip. She Yeah, 965 00:58:15,870 --> 00:58:21,150 that's why I asked. She has skills. She's very pretty. 966 00:58:22,260 --> 00:58:26,760 Pretty. And she handles adversarial questions. So 967 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,440 expertly. This could be a pro this could be a president she 968 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,710 has President written all over listen to Says the guy asked 969 00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:37,830 some asshole question like the President get that idea from 970 00:58:37,830 --> 00:58:41,190 watching the Morning Show Fox and Friends with some bullshit 971 00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:44,850 like that. Listen to how she does this. With just questions 972 00:58:44,850 --> 00:58:48,810 this. This is the 440 a day of the Trump administration. He 973 00:58:48,810 --> 00:58:51,300 talked about the urgency of it being April. But there's a lot 974 00:58:51,300 --> 00:58:53,610 of speculation in the country that this might have something 975 00:58:53,610 --> 00:58:56,130 to do with something that presidents on television on 976 00:58:56,130 --> 00:58:59,310 Sunday morning. Nothing to do with the fact that President 977 00:58:59,310 --> 00:59:01,980 wants to shore up support amongst his political base. Can 978 00:59:01,980 --> 00:59:03,600 you speak to that speculation? Is it true? 979 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,050 I think what is true is the President is frustrated. He has 980 00:59:07,050 --> 00:59:10,290 been very clear that he wants to secure our border. He's been 981 00:59:10,290 --> 00:59:13,830 very, very clear to the question expertly that in a bipartisan 982 00:59:13,830 --> 00:59:16,830 way with Congress, I think what you're seeing is the President 983 00:59:16,830 --> 00:59:20,430 taking his job very seriously, in terms of securing our border 984 00:59:20,430 --> 00:59:23,880 and doing everything we can without Congress to do just 985 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,760 that. But I do hope as soon as Congress comes back that I can 986 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:27,330 work with them 987 00:59:29,730 --> 00:59:31,890 on working on this planet, for how long have you personally 988 00:59:31,890 --> 00:59:32,040 been 989 00:59:32,190 --> 00:59:34,800 weak, you know, it's always on the table. It's been done before 990 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,890 as you know, it's been done before it's nothing new. It's 991 00:59:37,890 --> 00:59:40,410 one of many things that we have looked at we're in continuing 992 00:59:40,410 --> 00:59:42,930 conversations with the governors This is a partnership as you 993 00:59:42,930 --> 00:59:47,250 know. So we it's not new. We're just go walking through all of 994 00:59:47,250 --> 00:59:49,380 the things that we can do. I listed some of the ones that we 995 00:59:49,380 --> 00:59:51,540 have done, we can provide you brothers. 996 00:59:51,690 --> 00:59:56,460 She needs a little bit of help on the vocal fry. And she has a 997 00:59:56,910 --> 01:00:00,120 she elongate some stuff without frying which is also not are 998 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,090 attractive but I think once she gets rid of that 999 01:00:03,150 --> 01:00:08,550 she's good at very soft, soft what I call a soft pedaled 1000 01:00:08,580 --> 01:00:13,020 insult yes that's your soft pedaled insult is the use of as 1001 01:00:13,020 --> 01:00:16,980 you know, as you know yes. Because when you say as you know 1002 01:00:16,980 --> 01:00:20,610 it's really saying you already know this I don't know why 1003 01:00:20,610 --> 01:00:23,010 you're asking me this stupid question. 1004 01:00:23,850 --> 01:00:27,330 Very very subtle well done a micro aggression for sure 1005 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,560 it's a micro aggression that's exactly what it is, as you know 1006 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,740 as you know it's a micro micro aggression she's good 1007 01:00:34,740 --> 01:00:39,600 at it I'm a fan. Let's see Let's see how she does she She's 1008 01:00:39,630 --> 01:00:42,930 She looks good at it she doesn't seem to get rattled. And I think 1009 01:00:42,930 --> 01:00:46,620 the newer girl is seems to be bullish. She's I think she's 1010 01:00:46,620 --> 01:00:51,300 been promoted so we're not gonna see her so much. They've got 1011 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,830 he's got a lot a bevy of women that do the front work the 1012 01:00:55,830 --> 01:00:59,790 massage study, is it the massage is that he is he's hired all 1013 01:00:59,790 --> 01:01:00,600 these women problem 1014 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,750 is they're all pretty this included. Yeah. Well, no, I 1015 01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:04,530 guess not all 1016 01:01:05,070 --> 01:01:08,820 but it's beside the point because they all are effective. 1017 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,320 And it's, you know, I think it's a result of doing a very good 1018 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,800 job of surrounding himself with women who are effective at 1019 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:21,780 delivering the message without being like, Obama had guys like 1020 01:01:21,810 --> 01:01:27,720 Kirby and these other dicks just had an insult. Josh Josh 1021 01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:31,710 Earnest, earnest and there's another one besides Kirby that 1022 01:01:31,710 --> 01:01:34,380 other get Tanner Tanner's. Yeah, the 1023 01:01:34,380 --> 01:01:36,630 first guy was Kearney. Oh, no, 1024 01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:38,520 no, I'm talking about the gaffer the Defense Department with 1025 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,480 KIRBY Yeah, Kurt was toner toner or Tanner I can't remember s but 1026 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,840 he was a clone it Kirby was an ex Admiral. So he had the 1027 01:01:46,110 --> 01:01:51,600 classic arrogance of a Navy officer. And he just exuded it. 1028 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:56,280 He was terrible. Yeah. No offense to all your navy 1029 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,020 officers know what I'm talking about. They know they 1030 01:01:58,020 --> 01:01:58,560 understand. 1031 01:01:58,860 --> 01:02:01,350 And then just just before we take our break, did you see 1032 01:02:01,350 --> 01:02:02,940 Jesus Christ Superstar live? 1033 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,760 Not I did on Broadway years ago. No, 1034 01:02:08,759 --> 01:02:11,579 it was on TV. It was the big Easter Sunday television 1035 01:02:11,579 --> 01:02:14,639 extravaganza. Oh, this was really good. Oh, I'm surprised 1036 01:02:14,639 --> 01:02:18,839 you didn't. I hadn't it was a blowout and a nine and a half 1037 01:02:18,839 --> 01:02:22,499 million viewers. Was that that Alice Cooper is 1038 01:02:23,820 --> 01:02:29,280 King Herod Yeah. And basically he wasn't acting he just was out 1039 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:29,730 I didn't 1040 01:02:29,730 --> 01:02:33,870 even know it was on I moved somehow to bed. Oh, it was I 1041 01:02:33,870 --> 01:02:35,160 would have probably watched it John 1042 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:40,080 Legend was Jesus we have black baby Jesus. Yeah, it was it was 1043 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:44,160 really quite honestly, I was. What I didn't realize is that I 1044 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,340 grew up with this with the double album which came before 1045 01:02:47,340 --> 01:02:51,000 the play was just an album some freaks put together back in the 1046 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,510 hippie days my parents had that one of those big wooden 1047 01:02:56,460 --> 01:02:59,430 furniture cabinets in the living room and you open up the top and 1048 01:02:59,430 --> 01:03:02,010 there was the turntable and you put the put it you know you had 1049 01:03:02,010 --> 01:03:06,600 to maybe it even came up on some kind of fake hydraulics. And 1050 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,270 then the speakers were in the cabinet and I'd listened to that 1051 01:03:09,270 --> 01:03:12,600 and I knew all the words still it was very very odd I had no 1052 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,270 idea that that that people would still even give a crap about 1053 01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:19,620 that yes, for sure you didn't 1054 01:03:20,820 --> 01:03:22,830 apparently did and with that 1055 01:03:22,830 --> 01:03:25,260 I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning 1056 01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:31,290 to you John. JC superstars what it stands for Devorah back 1057 01:03:31,380 --> 01:03:33,750 in the morning you and Mr. Adam curry in the morning to all 1058 01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:36,690 ships at sea and boots on the ground also the subs in the 1059 01:03:36,690 --> 01:03:39,270 water the feet in the air and a games in the nights out there. 1060 01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:39,660 Yes 1061 01:03:39,660 --> 01:03:43,050 in the morning to our troll room. Hello trolls no agenda. 1062 01:03:43,050 --> 01:03:45,960 stream.com is where everybody congregates for the live stream 1063 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,530 and chat on Sundays and Thursdays. And I'd also like to 1064 01:03:49,530 --> 01:03:54,690 say a big Hey, oh. In the morning to comic strip blogger, 1065 01:03:54,690 --> 01:03:59,880 he brought us the artwork for episode 1021 Sun burps tide love 1066 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:04,170 it. This was we thought it was very funny. This was the pager 1067 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,320 with no agenda on it for my new OTG status. 1068 01:04:09,570 --> 01:04:10,290 Off the Grid 1069 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,720 Yep, that's me. I am OTG I thought 1070 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:17,310 that was an April Fool's joke no saw. See now I was told by comic 1071 01:04:17,310 --> 01:04:23,100 strip blogger that I was made a fool of. And everybody in the 1072 01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:27,030 chat room agreed that was an April fool's game. Doing really 1073 01:04:27,030 --> 01:04:32,130 Yes. Yeah. No, no, we have no intention of doing any of this 1074 01:04:32,130 --> 01:04:35,370 stuff. You were just you were just making an idiot out of me 1075 01:04:35,370 --> 01:04:37,140 by going on and on about it. No, I 1076 01:04:37,140 --> 01:04:39,930 would have done something creative like edited an old 1077 01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:43,380 overview. To make me sound like I 1078 01:04:43,650 --> 01:04:44,970 just typed it up. Yeah. 1079 01:04:47,580 --> 01:04:50,610 Yeah, I do have an OTG update later. This has hit a nerve. I 1080 01:04:50,610 --> 01:04:51,600 want to talk to you about it. 1081 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:52,680 Oh, God. 1082 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,570 You sound so excited. The man who gets excited about being 1083 01:04:57,570 --> 01:05:02,730 above the fold and Sioux City I can't stand and OTG report. 1084 01:05:03,959 --> 01:05:06,869 You go we need a jingle if he had a jingle I feel better about 1085 01:05:06,869 --> 01:05:07,499 it. Okay, 1086 01:05:07,530 --> 01:05:09,480 I'm sure I'm sure this will happen. 1087 01:05:12,750 --> 01:05:16,590 Well, we do have to, we only have to have curiously we had my 1088 01:05:16,590 --> 01:05:19,320 birthday, but my birthday drew all the attention or whatever it 1089 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:24,090 literally is. And so we didn't get very many executive and 1090 01:05:24,090 --> 01:05:26,940 associated executive producers. In fact, we got one of each. 1091 01:05:27,570 --> 01:05:31,650 Okay, so we got Stephen Fettig, who will be this a executive 1092 01:05:31,650 --> 01:05:36,990 producer, Sir Stephen. And he says, John, this is an honor of 1093 01:05:36,990 --> 01:05:43,140 your birthday and the Sixth Amendment. So he gave $660.66. 1094 01:05:43,170 --> 01:05:44,670 What is the sixth amendment? 1095 01:05:45,630 --> 01:05:49,530 I don't know. I didn't look it up. I think it has something to 1096 01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:52,320 do work, apparently, is he? It has something to do with what he 1097 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,080 just says, which is I love my right to a speedy and public 1098 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,900 trial by an impartial jury. There you go when confronted 1099 01:05:57,900 --> 01:06:02,160 with the witnesses against me? Yes, it has to do with that you 1100 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,790 can look it up. And I love John for his ever continuing 1101 01:06:05,790 --> 01:06:11,610 witticisms and petulant insight. tetravalent nice, petulant and 1102 01:06:11,610 --> 01:06:15,480 not just insight petulant is a racist term, by the way. It 1103 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,870 could be remember and then and then it the 1104 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:25,410 Romney was petulant. He did. Yeah, he said, Obama's petulant. 1105 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,660 And then that was seen as racist because petulant, assumes child 1106 01:06:30,690 --> 01:06:34,740 assumes boy assumes racism. Yeah, it was great. 1107 01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:43,110 I remember that. Those were the days that just Japan asked. Yes. 1108 01:06:43,260 --> 01:06:48,180 how she's doing. And we know, but she gave to her $22.22 He's 1109 01:06:48,180 --> 01:06:51,180 in Tokyo Of course. And yes, there John Happy Birthday. From 1110 01:06:51,180 --> 01:06:54,840 every level in life. The view is another one. But the higher you 1111 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,440 get, the better the view. Best wishes. He said, When you have 1112 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:04,410 cataracts, best wishes, always damn Astrid and the Dutchess of 1113 01:07:04,410 --> 01:07:07,230 Japan and the disputed islands in the jab pans. See? 1114 01:07:07,260 --> 01:07:10,560 That's right and good to hear from her. I follow sir mark on 1115 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,320 the face bag. So they're doing all kinds they're opening up 1116 01:07:13,350 --> 01:07:14,790 seems like a building a month. 1117 01:07:15,150 --> 01:07:17,880 Yeah, they will also get a bunch of intellectual tours 1118 01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:21,090 and they got awards and you know, there's stuff and then 1119 01:07:21,090 --> 01:07:24,120 still they have to show they still have time to listen to the 1120 01:07:24,180 --> 01:07:30,660 mall cops. Do they really? Just get the newsletter? Dan send the 1121 01:07:30,660 --> 01:07:31,260 guy check. 1122 01:07:34,020 --> 01:07:34,860 The way I see it. 1123 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:39,660 No, Dame Astrid listens religiously? I am sure of and 1124 01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:43,470 Esther Mark has to because he travels so much. He's on planes 1125 01:07:43,740 --> 01:07:46,410 to traveling a lot. Yeah, it's a good excuse. You might as well 1126 01:07:46,410 --> 01:07:50,220 just listen. All right. Well, that's that's it. Those are two 1127 01:07:50,460 --> 01:07:54,720 fact if you take all of Dame asteroids time that she spends 1128 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,360 listening to the show, she could probably it's probably one 1129 01:07:57,390 --> 01:08:01,320 building. Building One bill. One building a year they don't open. 1130 01:08:04,770 --> 01:08:06,870 That's it. Yeah, that's it. 1131 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,570 Okay. Well, I look forward to all the other birthday. 1132 01:08:09,570 --> 01:08:11,940 Congratulations coming up. It's a very special day. And we're 1133 01:08:11,940 --> 01:08:14,250 very happy and we take birthdays very seriously in the 1134 01:08:14,250 --> 01:08:16,110 Netherlands. John, we we decorate the 1135 01:08:16,110 --> 01:08:18,960 chair and it was just worried it was sitting around in a circle. 1136 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,300 Yes. stares at each other? Yes. And drinks coffee 1137 01:08:21,300 --> 01:08:24,030 and has little pieces of cake. And then we have the same 1138 01:08:24,030 --> 01:08:26,610 conversation that we had at the last birthday. We sat in a 1139 01:08:26,610 --> 01:08:29,610 circle. That's how it goes. Yes. And it's a lot I 1140 01:08:29,610 --> 01:08:33,030 know people have described it. You're not the only Dutch person 1141 01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:37,620 I know. And they described. I'm not the worst. Well, you're 1142 01:08:37,620 --> 01:08:42,030 right, you're not Dutch. But you're, you're a faux Dutch. But 1143 01:08:42,030 --> 01:08:46,170 they all describe the scene and it just sounds like the worst 1144 01:08:46,170 --> 01:08:47,340 thing imaginable. 1145 01:08:48,210 --> 01:08:51,660 But then there's an upside to the Dutch because every Dutch 1146 01:08:51,660 --> 01:08:55,320 household has a calendar hanging in the bathroom in the guest 1147 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,680 bathroom. And it has a little string and a little pencil or a 1148 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,710 pen. And the idea is when you're sitting there doing your 1149 01:09:01,710 --> 01:09:04,950 business you write down on the calendar, your your your name on 1150 01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:07,980 the date. And so when you sit there you also have something to 1151 01:09:07,980 --> 01:09:12,810 do like oh, yes, exactly. And you can see whose birthday is 1152 01:09:12,810 --> 01:09:17,730 coming up. It's this is this is how the this is Dutch face bag 1153 01:09:17,730 --> 01:09:18,330 basically, 1154 01:09:18,809 --> 01:09:21,029 when you pull on the string is also flush. 1155 01:09:23,310 --> 01:09:26,130 We want to thank our executive producer and Associate Executive 1156 01:09:26,130 --> 01:09:28,620 Producer they know that these credits are real and I'm sure 1157 01:09:28,620 --> 01:09:31,110 they've used them many times. Certainly on their building 1158 01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:33,510 pitches day master we'll probably put sneak that in there 1159 01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:37,320 somewhere. I know I know. I know her will be thanking more people 1160 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,840 more birthday wishes coming up later on. And remember we have 1161 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:45,720 another show coming up on Sunday for.org/and A so you have plenty 1162 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,600 of time in the meantime to be out there propagating our 1163 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:49,440 formula our 1164 01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:53,580 formula is this. We go out for yet people in the 1165 01:09:53,580 --> 01:10:09,420 mouth what So is it common in Holland to take a poop in 1166 01:10:09,450 --> 01:10:14,880 somebody else's bathroom? Just whenever you show up? Right on 1167 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:15,660 the calendar? 1168 01:10:16,710 --> 01:10:20,880 I think this is probably more women do this than men, just 1169 01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:24,480 naturally speaking, depends on the placement. You know, 1170 01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:27,030 sometimes the calendar can be writing it depends on how tall 1171 01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:33,120 you are. If you can see it or not, or if you guys would make 1172 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,490 more sense it was on the back wall of the of the of the 1173 01:10:35,490 --> 01:10:38,370 bathroom, you know, then you can let us know you got one hand 1174 01:10:38,370 --> 01:10:45,750 free, or some of us do I doubt. Right. Oh, I'm so happy. I've 1175 01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:51,150 made that joke. Let me see. Yeah, you just OTG for a second. 1176 01:10:51,810 --> 01:10:55,530 Okay, I'm ready. A lot of response to my idea of getting a 1177 01:10:55,530 --> 01:10:58,380 pager which should have been delivered yesterday, sadly, was 1178 01:10:58,380 --> 01:11:02,490 delayed so it's coming in today. So I got the pager. Yeah, the 1179 01:11:02,490 --> 01:11:07,650 two way pager so I can send and receive SMS text and email. And 1180 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,640 a lot of people would like to please document this. I want to 1181 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,140 do the same thing. Oh, it's 1182 01:11:13,140 --> 01:11:14,430 I mean, I smell a giblet 1183 01:11:14,460 --> 01:11:18,540 I've the giblet is, I think for sure. Also, I learned about this 1184 01:11:18,570 --> 01:11:22,380 purism outfit, and they make they have a phone coming out 1185 01:11:22,380 --> 01:11:26,190 with the crowdsourcing libram Five I think. And it's a it's 1186 01:11:26,220 --> 01:11:30,360 just a it's a phone. And it has like physical hardware switches 1187 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,330 to turn off the radio. So there's no like a real toggle 1188 01:11:33,330 --> 01:11:37,710 switch that cuts off power to that part of the device. You 1189 01:11:37,710 --> 01:11:40,560 know has no spyware I guess Richard Stallman is going to 1190 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,850 bless it, you know, all the all the things you want to make your 1191 01:11:44,850 --> 01:11:48,000 calls, but mainly intended to use stuff over the top. So all 1192 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,260 Wi Fi, and they have specific Wi Fi chips is very, very 1193 01:11:52,260 --> 01:11:56,640 interesting. And the more you are aware of the things people 1194 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,860 are doing, the more aware you become of what's really being 1195 01:11:58,860 --> 01:12:04,650 done to you. What kind of amazing pieces of information 1196 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,910 about you are just flowing. So it's even gotten to the point 1197 01:12:08,910 --> 01:12:13,200 where one of our producers who used to own a ri I guess a local 1198 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,520 or regional telephone company. He says I'd like to come out of 1199 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,930 retirement and you know, we'll white label a pager company. 1200 01:12:22,860 --> 01:12:24,720 We're going to make pagers hip again. 1201 01:12:27,210 --> 01:12:29,400 Yes, this was your earlier assertion. 1202 01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:33,240 I think if if we could get new devices, maybe a crowd fund a 1203 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,120 new page or device, make it something cool. I think the kids 1204 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,330 might go for it. And then you'll have some mobile crap social and 1205 01:12:39,330 --> 01:12:43,740 social thing in there. So they can text each other, you know, 1206 01:12:43,740 --> 01:12:48,960 like group text. pretty colors now? Maybe not. 1207 01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:55,320 But it could be something. There's a it has potential. But 1208 01:12:56,910 --> 01:12:58,380 I stick with the word potential. 1209 01:12:58,410 --> 01:13:05,100 Yes, I gotcha. But just speaking of your data being taken, being 1210 01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:08,880 used this showed up on now, you know, this building, what do you 1211 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:09,600 bring in for 1212 01:13:09,900 --> 01:13:12,090 not just rank because the data is being used? 1213 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,410 It is the new bacon after all. I gotta keep that in there. I keep 1214 01:13:16,410 --> 01:13:19,710 using that. Let's see this one. 1215 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:23,550 That's what I'm ringing for. And we go on. 1216 01:13:24,179 --> 01:13:30,689 Okay. I think Where's I have it here. Yes. So my building has 1217 01:13:30,869 --> 01:13:33,749 Nest thermostats pre installed. 1218 01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:39,300 Yeah. Which I think is just dumb. Yeah. So I have the app, 1219 01:13:39,330 --> 01:13:41,580 this thing's get devil cameras are spying on you? 1220 01:13:41,730 --> 01:13:45,930 Well, it gets a little bit better. I also have a nest 1221 01:13:45,930 --> 01:13:49,830 camera that I had in the airstream, which I took out of 1222 01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:52,860 the Airstream. So it's not connected to anything, but it's 1223 01:13:52,860 --> 01:13:56,910 still in my possession. And all of a sudden, the the app for the 1224 01:13:56,910 --> 01:14:00,360 nest, which you know, i all i Of course, you have to connect it 1225 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:05,760 to Wi Fi. It pops up a message and I took a screenshot. And 1226 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,740 it's gonna be in the show notes, but I want to share it with you. 1227 01:14:08,370 --> 01:14:11,340 So it says and it was very confusing because I just showed 1228 01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:14,130 it to Tina and she didn't understand. It says a client has 1229 01:14:14,130 --> 01:14:18,750 been updated. A client is requesting new permissions. Now 1230 01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:26,610 to Tina, she's like, like a customer, or you know, it's a 1231 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:32,130 typical says a stupid opening for a message. And then the next 1232 01:14:32,130 --> 01:14:34,980 line is Google Assistant has been updated and would like to 1233 01:14:34,980 --> 01:14:38,220 do the following. Now I've never set up google assistant. I don't 1234 01:14:38,220 --> 01:14:41,100 use google assistant. I wouldn't even know where it is. I don't 1235 01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:43,800 have a Google phone don't have an Android phone. But it would 1236 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,010 like to do the following control temperature and thermostat 1237 01:14:47,010 --> 01:14:49,860 settings which allows Google Assistant to read and set your 1238 01:14:49,860 --> 01:14:53,370 Nest thermostat through voice. Identify and connect to your 1239 01:14:53,370 --> 01:14:56,700 nest products allows Google Assistant to be enabled in the 1240 01:14:56,700 --> 01:15:01,410 compatible nest devices. See your cameras settings, receive 1241 01:15:01,410 --> 01:15:05,700 motion sound or familiar face alerts and access live video, 1242 01:15:05,970 --> 01:15:09,810 which allows Google Assistant to stream your nest camera. See or 1243 01:15:09,810 --> 01:15:14,010 a system security settings, view sensor and alarm status and set 1244 01:15:14,010 --> 01:15:17,670 the alarm, which lets you use your which lets you use your 1245 01:15:17,670 --> 01:15:20,700 Google Assistant to set the alarm. The Google Assistant 1246 01:15:20,700 --> 01:15:23,190 connection may not work as expected if you do not allow 1247 01:15:23,190 --> 01:15:26,880 this access, contact Google Assistant if you have questions 1248 01:15:27,150 --> 01:15:32,880 allow. Now to an unsuspecting person 1249 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:34,860 they have just allow is there disallow? 1250 01:15:34,890 --> 01:15:40,080 No, there's no disallow What? No. No block no nothing. 1251 01:15:44,610 --> 01:15:46,440 So can you just close that box? 1252 01:15:46,799 --> 01:15:50,009 Yeah, you can just back out of the out of the notification. But 1253 01:15:50,819 --> 01:15:53,879 for the unsuspecting person, you're given up a lot of 1254 01:15:53,879 --> 01:15:57,779 information, particularly the camera part. Under the guise of 1255 01:15:57,779 --> 01:16:03,089 Oh, yeah, I can say hey, Google Assistant, go you know, check on 1256 01:16:03,089 --> 01:16:07,379 the house. And whatever. This very, 1257 01:16:07,470 --> 01:16:11,010 any go look at Bill's house. Is there a camera in the bedroom? 1258 01:16:11,010 --> 01:16:11,340 Google? 1259 01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,080 I would install a different if it had that feature. That'd be 1260 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:16,470 great. 1261 01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:20,700 Maybe it does? 1262 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,980 Yeah, who knows? But I just you know, the amount of stuff that 1263 01:16:25,980 --> 01:16:28,950 is that is being done. And when you really think about what you 1264 01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:34,020 can do. It is really not much escaping it. I mean, even if you 1265 01:16:34,020 --> 01:16:36,750 never had a face bag account, I mean, it's just 1266 01:16:36,750 --> 01:16:39,690 that'd be me. Yeah, I don't have a Google Assistant. That'd be 1267 01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:42,750 me. Yeah. I don't have a nest thermostat or camera. That'd be 1268 01:16:42,750 --> 01:16:46,620 me. Yeah. So it's very easy to escape. Yeah, by this junk 1269 01:16:46,650 --> 01:16:50,160 with this other stuff. There's other stuff coming you have an 1270 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,790 Android phone. So whenever whenever you do use it, you're 1271 01:16:53,790 --> 01:16:54,480 being tracked. 1272 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,860 Yes, yes, that's probably true. 1273 01:16:58,980 --> 01:17:01,470 And you know, I've been now they found these mystery Stingray 1274 01:17:01,470 --> 01:17:04,950 devices all around Washington, DC. No one knows who they belong 1275 01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:09,030 to. The Stingray is it acts like a cell tower and then sucks up 1276 01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:12,180 everything that you've got. Your data sucks up everything you 1277 01:17:12,180 --> 01:17:13,770 got, including your battery power. 1278 01:17:14,490 --> 01:17:18,150 I think I told the story before when JC buzzkill Jr was working 1279 01:17:18,150 --> 01:17:24,330 in the city. He was in a location that was near the 1280 01:17:24,330 --> 01:17:28,590 Intercontinental, which was where Obama was going to stay. 1281 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:34,710 Right. So they rolled into the area and they set up shop or did 1282 01:17:34,710 --> 01:17:39,330 sugar service set up shop all over the place and lit up a 1283 01:17:39,330 --> 01:17:43,920 whole slew of sting rays. Yeah. And he says you can wash your 1284 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,260 phone battery dropped dead because they were attaching 1285 01:17:46,260 --> 01:17:50,250 themselves to everything they can get a hold of you just the 1286 01:17:50,250 --> 01:17:55,140 common Hello, I'm here signals. Yeah. And then lock it on your 1287 01:17:55,140 --> 01:17:58,530 phone and then sucking everything off to see if there 1288 01:17:58,530 --> 01:18:01,440 was anything you know any people around that would you know, want 1289 01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:06,120 to do harm to the president. And he says he said you had to turn 1290 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,760 your phone's off. Otherwise you get what try to get home with a 1291 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,910 dead battery. Right. A pretty onerous 1292 01:18:11,940 --> 01:18:16,200 must be running some process then, or just just opens up some 1293 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:19,200 floodgates. So just has everything go out. I don't know. 1294 01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:20,190 It seems kind of strange. 1295 01:18:20,190 --> 01:18:26,370 There's got to be a floodgate the command? Yes, exactly. Sock 1296 01:18:26,370 --> 01:18:27,000 it to me. 1297 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,670 Well, there's other stuff. I'm just collecting some of these 1298 01:18:29,670 --> 01:18:34,050 things that I find interesting. Grindr. You're familiar with the 1299 01:18:34,050 --> 01:18:39,630 Grindr app, has now announced in wake of this face bag Analytica 1300 01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:43,980 that it will stop sharing users HIV data with other companies. 1301 01:18:44,190 --> 01:18:45,660 Gee, thanks, Grindr. 1302 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:48,900 I got a kick out of that story who 1303 01:18:48,900 --> 01:18:53,280 say you know, I got nothing to hide. And maybe it shouldn't be 1304 01:18:53,490 --> 01:18:56,160 something shameful. But you know, there's all sorts of 1305 01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:01,200 reasons you don't want companies having that information. You 1306 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,050 know, getting a mortgage could suck, just as an example. 1307 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:09,000 And then it all catches up to you in the UK. It's all bad. 1308 01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:13,770 Yes. Get my nation east. This is great. The fantastic NHS, the 1309 01:19:13,770 --> 01:19:17,550 national national health system. In order to track down people in 1310 01:19:17,550 --> 01:19:20,580 Britain who may have broken immigration rules. The 1311 01:19:20,580 --> 01:19:25,170 government is now turning to doctors who work with refugees 1312 01:19:25,170 --> 01:19:29,070 and asylum seekers. And they're just looking in their records. 1313 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,850 And the doctors have to share that information. 1314 01:19:35,190 --> 01:19:37,830 They've done the same thing in this country by requiring this a 1315 01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:39,900 few years ago. I know my doctor at the time 1316 01:19:40,230 --> 01:19:44,010 for you have to have all your vaccinations and stuff and be a 1317 01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:49,530 no, no, no, it was they required everything to go on a computer. 1318 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,780 All the paper records ever Yes, yes. You have any paper records 1319 01:19:54,780 --> 01:19:57,150 anymore. You couldn't sit there and write your scribbling notes 1320 01:19:57,150 --> 01:19:59,970 to yourself. We've talked about this a lot. Yeah, and it's 1321 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,680 Everything has to be on the computer and if what's on the 1322 01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,550 computer the music and it all be you know mind? Yes. Oh yeah, 1323 01:20:05,550 --> 01:20:08,700 there's these rules against it but are there? Yeah, I guess 1324 01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:13,290 they crack and see how this stuff is just this week. Yeah, 1325 01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:16,170 they anyone thinks that no not gonna just go through it 1326 01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:20,310 to replay some of this Zuckerberg interview. 1327 01:20:21,180 --> 01:20:24,900 Yeah I have so some of it. You have one Yeah, I 1328 01:20:24,900 --> 01:20:29,610 actually put a lot of time into this. Just Okay. Which doesn't 1329 01:20:29,610 --> 01:20:34,020 mean the law. I can just like oh my god, he's got a little off. 1330 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,340 This was a 45 minute interview with Ezra Klein hero, right. 1331 01:20:38,370 --> 01:20:41,850 Ezra Klein hero of the what did I call your journalist friends 1332 01:20:41,850 --> 01:20:42,690 again, I forgot. 1333 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,540 Wasn't live. It wasn't live. Live Joe's live Joe's. 1334 01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:52,710 He is the hero of the live Joe's. Oh, thank you for 1335 01:20:52,710 --> 01:20:57,060 remembering that good one hero of the lip Joe's. And of course, 1336 01:20:57,060 --> 01:20:59,550 you know, President Obama said what? No, no, was that? No, that 1337 01:20:59,550 --> 01:21:03,120 was Marc Maron. What is it is reclined isn't just an NPR guy 1338 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:03,840 gone rogue? 1339 01:21:04,530 --> 01:21:06,300 I don't know. I don't know anymore. 1340 01:21:06,660 --> 01:21:13,500 I think he is. He sat down with the Zuck. And let's first listen 1341 01:21:13,500 --> 01:21:17,490 to it. This is all about elections, 1342 01:21:17,550 --> 01:21:20,400 I think was more than 30,000 accounts. And I think the 1343 01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,250 reports out of out of France were that people felt like that 1344 01:21:23,250 --> 01:21:27,090 was a much cleaner election on on social media a few months 1345 01:21:27,090 --> 01:21:30,570 later, there were the German elections. And there, we 1346 01:21:30,570 --> 01:21:34,590 augmented the playbook again, to work directly with the election 1347 01:21:34,590 --> 01:21:35,580 commission in Germany. 1348 01:21:35,850 --> 01:21:38,820 Wait a minute, I thought that they said both in France and 1349 01:21:38,820 --> 01:21:41,640 Germany, we had nothing but reports that, you know, there 1350 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,080 was all kinds of shenanigans. 1351 01:21:45,540 --> 01:21:47,910 That's what I was led to believe by the media. 1352 01:21:47,940 --> 01:21:51,750 Well, the shenanigans seems that the face bag was colluding, 1353 01:21:52,530 --> 01:21:53,820 colluding with governments. 1354 01:21:53,850 --> 01:21:57,390 Right. The idea is that it as an internet company will have the 1355 01:21:57,390 --> 01:22:00,750 ability to see some of the content that's in some of the 1356 01:22:00,750 --> 01:22:02,850 issues that that might be happening in an election. But if 1357 01:22:02,850 --> 01:22:05,490 you work with the government in a country, they'll really 1358 01:22:05,490 --> 01:22:08,160 actually have a fuller understanding of what's going 1359 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,380 on, and what are all the issues that we would need to focus on. 1360 01:22:10,380 --> 01:22:14,100 And, again, by working with the German government, we were able 1361 01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:17,550 to focus on a few specific issues. And I think there again, 1362 01:22:17,610 --> 01:22:20,490 people felt a lot better about how that election went on social 1363 01:22:20,490 --> 01:22:25,410 media, any collusion for to last year 2017. In the special 1364 01:22:25,410 --> 01:22:29,430 election in Alabama, we deployed a number of new tools we'd 1365 01:22:29,670 --> 01:22:33,030 developed to to find fake accounts who were trying to 1366 01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:37,050 spread false news. And we got them off before a lot of the 1367 01:22:37,050 --> 01:22:40,110 discussion around the election. And again, I think we felt a lot 1368 01:22:40,110 --> 01:22:41,160 better about the result there. 1369 01:22:42,300 --> 01:22:44,040 So it sounds to me when you say 1370 01:22:44,220 --> 01:22:46,230 better because it was a Democrat. Yes. 1371 01:22:46,230 --> 01:22:48,690 That's exactly what he's saying. We felt a lot better about the 1372 01:22:48,690 --> 01:22:52,950 result there after we deployed our new tools. I mean, I'm 1373 01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:56,190 sorry, as Rob, but as an NPR, dude, you should have followed 1374 01:22:56,190 --> 01:22:59,370 up on that. Like, what do you mean? I mean, you felt good, did 1375 01:22:59,370 --> 01:23:03,990 you? You're happy that the Democrat one. And guess what I 1376 01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:06,480 would ask What were these new tools that you deployed? 1377 01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:09,270 Anyway, I would ask that too. 1378 01:23:09,450 --> 01:23:17,490 Now we know from the promo, the house ads on MSNBC that there's 1379 01:23:17,490 --> 01:23:22,590 a recode interview coming up between Kara Swisher Trisha and 1380 01:23:23,670 --> 01:23:29,400 the other lesbian, Chris Hayes. See, I did that. And Tim Cook. 1381 01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:30,000 And we've seen 1382 01:23:30,330 --> 01:23:32,850 it works very well, except for the fact that you that you 1383 01:23:32,850 --> 01:23:37,620 called yourself out. I just want to remind you that it's probably 1384 01:23:37,620 --> 01:23:43,500 not kosher. You had a good line? Yeah, I'm an idiot. Well, I'm 1385 01:23:43,500 --> 01:23:46,170 just saying you shouldn't have to know about your goose. 1386 01:23:46,170 --> 01:23:46,770 prowers. 1387 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:51,090 Good point. But I needed someone to hit the like button. 1388 01:23:52,170 --> 01:23:54,930 Next time you do that, just say the whole thing again, I'll give 1389 01:23:54,930 --> 01:23:56,310 you I'll give you what you need. Okay. 1390 01:23:57,480 --> 01:24:02,190 So it was an interview between Kara Swisher and then who's the 1391 01:24:02,190 --> 01:24:03,930 other lesbian, Chris Hayes. 1392 01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:07,590 actually hit it the wrong way. 1393 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:16,410 It's your great moment. Sorry. And in this, we know from the 1394 01:24:16,410 --> 01:24:20,070 promo material that Tim Cook said, you know, the question 1395 01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:22,620 was, what would you do if you were Mark Zuckerberg in this in 1396 01:24:22,620 --> 01:24:24,840 this situation? He says, I wouldn't get into it. This would 1397 01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,960 this wouldn't happen to me. This scenario wouldn't happen to me. 1398 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,960 So we need a response from Zach. Here it is one 1399 01:24:30,990 --> 01:24:33,360 one of the things that has been coming up a lot in the 1400 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:37,350 conversation is whether the business model of roughly 1401 01:24:37,350 --> 01:24:41,190 monetizing user attention is what is letting in a lot of 1402 01:24:41,190 --> 01:24:43,920 these problems. Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple gave, gave an 1403 01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,380 interview the other day, and he was asked, What would you do if 1404 01:24:46,380 --> 01:24:49,680 you were in Mark Zuckerberg shoes? He said, I would not be 1405 01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,130 in Mark Zuckerberg shoes. Apple sells products to users. It 1406 01:24:53,130 --> 01:24:56,640 doesn't sell users to advertisers. And so it's a 1407 01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,860 sounder business model that doesn't open itself to these 1408 01:24:58,860 --> 01:25:01,620 problems. Do you Part of the problem here is the business 1409 01:25:01,620 --> 01:25:05,940 model where a tension ends up dominating above all else. And 1410 01:25:05,940 --> 01:25:11,670 so anything that can engage does have at least some powerful 1411 01:25:11,670 --> 01:25:13,110 value within the ecosystem. 1412 01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:18,060 You know, I find that argument that if you're not paying that, 1413 01:25:18,060 --> 01:25:23,370 somehow, we can't care about you to be extremely glib, but and, 1414 01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,030 and not at all aligned with the truth. You know, the reality 1415 01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:30,480 here is that, if you want to build a service that helps 1416 01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:33,600 connect everyone in the world, then there are a lot of people 1417 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:38,310 who can't afford to pay. And therefore, as with a lot of 1418 01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:42,600 media, having an advertising supported model is the only 1419 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:47,220 rational model that that can support, building the service to 1420 01:25:47,340 --> 01:25:50,520 reach people, because you're also for that we're not 1421 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,930 primarily focused on on serving people, I think, probably to the 1422 01:25:55,290 --> 01:25:58,860 dissatisfaction of our sales team here, I'll make all of our 1423 01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:02,010 decisions based on what's going to matter to our community and 1424 01:26:02,010 --> 01:26:05,070 improve the experience and focus much less, you know, in very 1425 01:26:05,070 --> 01:26:09,690 little on the advertising side of the of the business. But I 1426 01:26:09,690 --> 01:26:13,890 mean, look, if you want to build a service, which is not just 1427 01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:18,270 serving rich people, then you need to have something that 1428 01:26:18,270 --> 01:26:19,230 people can afford. 1429 01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:23,280 Oh, wait a minute, Rich. Well, can I be on the rich people face 1430 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,830 bag? This sounds like sounds like another business 1431 01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:29,850 opportunity, John, Face Face Book for rich people. 1432 01:26:30,030 --> 01:26:34,200 You know, I thought Jeff Bezos had an excellent saying on this 1433 01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,050 one in one of his Kindle launches a number of years back, 1434 01:26:37,050 --> 01:26:40,620 he said, there are companies that work hard to charge you 1435 01:26:40,620 --> 01:26:43,560 more. And there are companies that work hard to charge you 1436 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:48,540 less. And at Facebook, we are squarely in the camp of the 1437 01:26:48,540 --> 01:26:52,230 companies that work hard to charge you less and provide a 1438 01:26:52,230 --> 01:26:55,770 free service that everyone can use. I don't think at all that 1439 01:26:55,770 --> 01:26:58,980 that means that that we don't care about people. I think to 1440 01:26:58,980 --> 01:27:01,920 the contrary, I think it's important that we don't all get 1441 01:27:01,950 --> 01:27:05,250 Stockholm syndrome, and let the companies that work hard to 1442 01:27:05,250 --> 01:27:07,980 charge you more convinced you that they actually care more 1443 01:27:07,980 --> 01:27:08,490 about you. 1444 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:13,770 I see when he said that I'm like, Oh, hold on a second. He's 1445 01:27:13,770 --> 01:27:18,990 worried about the Stockholm Syndrome. He's worried about it 1446 01:27:18,990 --> 01:27:23,610 getting out of control. You don't think so? 1447 01:27:24,690 --> 01:27:28,170 I can't say one way or the other. I just think it's weird 1448 01:27:28,170 --> 01:27:31,950 that he dropped that bomb in there like that, then is 1449 01:27:31,950 --> 01:27:33,060 obviously on his mind. 1450 01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,270 Yeah, oh, of course, it has to be. And he must be getting a lot 1451 01:27:36,270 --> 01:27:38,700 of heat, certainly from the shareholder department, which 1452 01:27:38,700 --> 01:27:41,910 he's never really had. He's always been the Darling. So now 1453 01:27:41,940 --> 01:27:44,040 the I know what it's like when you miss a quarter or do 1454 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,010 something melts or just when the stock price drops, you get you, 1455 01:27:47,190 --> 01:27:50,280 like, everyone's pissed off at you. And especially the guys 1456 01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:56,370 that you sucked up to so hard when you did your IPO. Now, I 1457 01:27:56,370 --> 01:28:00,660 think this interview was recorded before Facebook started 1458 01:28:00,660 --> 01:28:04,320 clarifying its Terms of Service, which I haven't seen published 1459 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:08,220 yet. But I'm told it is there was a little something in this 1460 01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:12,060 short clip, which I'm surprised declined at, well, not really 1461 01:28:12,060 --> 01:28:14,220 surprised, but client didn't pick up on it, either. The 1462 01:28:14,220 --> 01:28:15,480 Myanmar issues 1463 01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:19,560 have, I think, gotten a lot of focus inside the company. And 1464 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,540 there, there are real issues. And we take this really 1465 01:28:21,540 --> 01:28:25,440 seriously having one of the I remember, one Saturday morning, 1466 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:30,480 got a phone call. And we detected that people were trying 1467 01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:35,610 to spread sensational messages through it was Facebook 1468 01:28:35,610 --> 01:28:39,840 Messenger this case, to each side of the conflict, basically 1469 01:28:40,110 --> 01:28:45,090 telling the Muslims, hey, there's bound to be an uprising 1470 01:28:45,090 --> 01:28:48,390 of the Buddhists. So you know, make sure that that you are 1471 01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:51,900 armed and go to this place. And then the same thing on the on 1472 01:28:51,900 --> 01:28:55,740 the other side. So that's the kind of thing where I think it 1473 01:28:55,740 --> 01:29:01,380 is clear that people were trying to use our tools in order to in 1474 01:29:01,380 --> 01:29:03,990 order to incite real harm. Now, in that case, you know, we our 1475 01:29:03,990 --> 01:29:07,140 systems detect that that's going on, we stopped those messages 1476 01:29:07,140 --> 01:29:10,200 from going through, and hopefully we're able to, to 1477 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,050 prevent any kind of real world harm there. But I mean, this is 1478 01:29:13,050 --> 01:29:15,330 certainly something that we're paying a lot of attention to, 1479 01:29:15,540 --> 01:29:18,630 it's a real issue. And we want to make sure that all of the 1480 01:29:18,630 --> 01:29:21,660 tools that we're bringing to bear on on eliminating hate 1481 01:29:21,660 --> 01:29:24,780 speech, inciting violence, and basically protecting the 1482 01:29:24,780 --> 01:29:28,500 integrity of civil discussions that we're doing in places like 1483 01:29:28,500 --> 01:29:30,900 Myanmar as well as places like the US that do get a 1484 01:29:30,900 --> 01:29:32,400 disproportionate amount of the attention. 1485 01:29:32,850 --> 01:29:35,880 So my takeaway here is that they are scanning messenger on 1486 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:42,180 everybody which is supposed to be your private messaging there 1487 01:29:42,180 --> 01:29:46,200 so they're scanning through it he just admitted that looking 1488 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:47,040 for hate speech I 1489 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,080 don't know how the system works so I don't know what a private 1490 01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:52,050 how the private messaging works. Those aren't public message. Oh, 1491 01:29:52,590 --> 01:29:57,270 no. Messenger is Director anything is a messenger spun out 1492 01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:02,730 from face bag you can Oh longer use it on your phone, or on the 1493 01:30:02,730 --> 01:30:07,380 web version, you have to get a separate app. And that's your 1494 01:30:07,380 --> 01:30:10,410 direct message app. And you can you can, you can put multiple, 1495 01:30:10,440 --> 01:30:14,220 like email, you can put multiple people in the address field. But 1496 01:30:14,220 --> 01:30:17,010 it's private. It's not published publicly. And so they're just 1497 01:30:17,010 --> 01:30:22,320 scanning that for, I guess, keywords and then jumping in and 1498 01:30:22,350 --> 01:30:28,680 changing history. I mean, come on, well, that can't 1499 01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,620 be helping the business. But then if I have a system that I 1500 01:30:31,620 --> 01:30:34,710 expect to get a private message from, for me to you know, 1501 01:30:34,710 --> 01:30:35,340 they're scanning 1502 01:30:35,340 --> 01:30:41,130 with their AI. That's not the worst of it. My final clip is 1503 01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:45,900 really what this is all about. It is a globalist tool, I'm 1504 01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:51,750 sorry, platform with tools. And Zuckerberg is driving it. Sure. 1505 01:30:51,810 --> 01:30:54,570 I mean, I think since I wrote that we've we've certainly 1506 01:30:54,570 --> 01:30:54,840 learned, 1507 01:30:54,990 --> 01:30:59,700 he's discussing his 2017 manifesto, which I don't 1508 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,220 owe him and Bill Gates. Yeah, that one more 1509 01:31:02,220 --> 01:31:05,460 about how to do this. But the big thing that I was thinking 1510 01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:10,410 about when I wrote that was how the world coming closer together 1511 01:31:10,410 --> 01:31:14,010 is not a given word for most of Facebook's existence in 2004. 1512 01:31:14,010 --> 01:31:19,530 When I got started, you know, if you told me that people weren't 1513 01:31:19,530 --> 01:31:24,300 going to stop, keep connecting more. Stop. Yeah, you can back 1514 01:31:24,300 --> 01:31:24,570 it up. 1515 01:31:25,230 --> 01:31:28,590 I know exactly what I'm gonna say. In 2004, he started to pick 1516 01:31:28,590 --> 01:31:29,370 up chicks. 1517 01:31:31,230 --> 01:31:37,290 Well, when he said it, he said, Start, Ted. He had two words. I 1518 01:31:37,290 --> 01:31:43,980 miss that. I'm thinking when I start. He said when I start, 1519 01:31:45,180 --> 01:31:51,330 Ted. What was he thinking with with start as opposed to 1520 01:31:51,330 --> 01:31:55,170 started? It was late again, because it's just very strange. 1521 01:31:55,170 --> 01:31:56,640 This guy's like robot, it was a 1522 01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,120 data throughput glitch. It was a total glitch. 1523 01:32:00,809 --> 01:32:04,199 The world coming closer together is not a given word for most of 1524 01:32:04,199 --> 01:32:07,619 Facebook's existence in 2004. When I got started, no, he says, 1525 01:32:07,619 --> 01:32:11,729 I got started if you'd told me I got started. wasn't that bad? 1526 01:32:13,170 --> 01:32:18,870 wasn't that bad? I think is later he was what? Okay, maybe 1527 01:32:18,900 --> 01:32:22,860 maybe that was it. But that it was it was more of a glitch and 1528 01:32:23,610 --> 01:32:30,150 as a data throughput glues meat in your brain, well, packets 1529 01:32:30,150 --> 01:32:30,810 received, okay, 1530 01:32:30,810 --> 01:32:36,360 here we go. That people weren't going to keep connecting more, 1531 01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,420 and that it wouldn't be more global cooperation. I mean, I 1532 01:32:39,420 --> 01:32:41,550 kind of taken that as a given that the world would move in 1533 01:32:41,550 --> 01:32:44,070 that direction. I think, over the last few years, the 1534 01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:48,810 political reality has been that a lot of people are feeling left 1535 01:32:48,810 --> 01:32:53,550 behind by by globalization in different issues. And there's 1536 01:32:53,550 --> 01:32:58,650 been a big rise of isolationism and nationalism, communism 1537 01:32:58,650 --> 01:33:01,530 threatens some of the global cooperation that will be 1538 01:33:01,530 --> 01:33:04,230 required to solve some of the bigger issues like maintaining 1539 01:33:04,230 --> 01:33:08,190 peace, addressing climate change, eventually, 1540 01:33:08,430 --> 01:33:11,070 collaborating a lot and accelerating science and curing 1541 01:33:11,070 --> 01:33:15,570 diseases and eliminating poverty. So I kind of take it as 1542 01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,710 this is a huge part of our mission, is that I think a lot 1543 01:33:19,710 --> 01:33:22,290 of these problems require people coming together and having a 1544 01:33:22,290 --> 01:33:26,910 global understanding. One of the things that I was that I found 1545 01:33:26,910 --> 01:33:30,510 heartening is, if you ask millennials, what they identify 1546 01:33:30,510 --> 01:33:33,870 the most with, it's not, it's not their nationality, or even 1547 01:33:33,870 --> 01:33:37,920 their ethnicity. It's the plurality identify as a citizen 1548 01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:41,910 of the world. And I live that strong. And that's, that I 1549 01:33:41,910 --> 01:33:46,320 think, reflects the values of where we need to go in order to 1550 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,660 solve some of these bigger questions. So now the question 1551 01:33:48,660 --> 01:33:51,600 is, how do you do that? I think it's clear that just helping 1552 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,990 people connect by itself isn't always positive. When you give 1553 01:33:54,990 --> 01:33:58,830 people a tool, it's more positive than negative. Clearly, 1554 01:33:58,830 --> 01:34:00,900 there's a lot of good things that happen. But then there's 1555 01:34:00,900 --> 01:34:04,740 also abuse. And there are bad things that happen. And a much 1556 01:34:04,740 --> 01:34:08,460 bigger part of the focus for me now, is making sure that as 1557 01:34:08,460 --> 01:34:11,730 we're connecting people, we are helping to build bonds and bring 1558 01:34:11,730 --> 01:34:14,730 people closer together BOMs rather than just focused on the 1559 01:34:14,730 --> 01:34:17,670 mechanics of the connection, and the infrastructure, as you say, 1560 01:34:18,090 --> 01:34:20,970 but I think that there's there's a number of different pieces 1561 01:34:20,970 --> 01:34:25,110 that you need to do here. civic society basically starts bottom 1562 01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:27,270 up, right, you need to have well functioning groups and 1563 01:34:27,270 --> 01:34:31,350 communities. We're very focused on that you need a well informed 1564 01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:35,970 citizenry. So we're very focused on making sure that the quality 1565 01:34:35,970 --> 01:34:39,060 of journalism and and that everyone has a voice and that 1566 01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:43,530 can get access to to the content that they need. That I think is 1567 01:34:43,530 --> 01:34:46,440 ends up being really important civic engagement, both being 1568 01:34:46,440 --> 01:34:49,170 involved in elections, and increasingly working to 1569 01:34:49,170 --> 01:34:52,500 eliminate interference and, and different nation states trying 1570 01:34:52,500 --> 01:34:55,410 to interfere in each other's elections ends up being really 1571 01:34:55,410 --> 01:34:58,710 important. And then I think part of what we need to do is work on 1572 01:34:58,710 --> 01:35:01,500 some of the new Some types of governance questions that we 1573 01:35:01,500 --> 01:35:04,170 started off this conversation with, because there hasn't been 1574 01:35:04,170 --> 01:35:06,870 a community like this that has spanned so many different 1575 01:35:06,870 --> 01:35:08,310 countries. And that's an open question. 1576 01:35:08,490 --> 01:35:10,020 We are all going to die. 1577 01:35:11,910 --> 01:35:13,350 This guy's a lunatic. 1578 01:35:14,429 --> 01:35:16,499 He's got his shit. 1579 01:35:17,129 --> 01:35:20,159 I get the biggest kick out of multibillionaires, who have 1580 01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:24,629 their private jets, and be a little asked here about climate 1581 01:35:24,629 --> 01:35:28,559 change. They get their private world of climate change. By the 1582 01:35:28,559 --> 01:35:32,699 way, the climate change thing, my mudflats have expanded nodes. 1583 01:35:32,909 --> 01:35:35,639 And if there's a huge low tide or whatever it is with, they're 1584 01:35:35,639 --> 01:35:38,279 almost out halfway through the bay. It's unbelievable. Oh, 1585 01:35:38,309 --> 01:35:40,649 anyway, tsunami, tsunami warning. 1586 01:35:41,820 --> 01:35:46,110 Swell looks like it was going on for a week. I think the 1587 01:35:46,140 --> 01:35:52,590 arrogance of these billionaires going on about, you know, the 1588 01:35:52,590 --> 01:35:57,000 globe, I'm a global citizen. You know, there's most people who 1589 01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,060 have not left her own community. There are people in law Long 1590 01:36:00,060 --> 01:36:03,390 Island, I've never been to Manhattan. There are tons of 1591 01:36:03,390 --> 01:36:05,610 people that live in Germany. They've never been to France 1592 01:36:05,610 --> 01:36:08,610 when it's just a simple train ride and go to Paris. No, I go 1593 01:36:08,610 --> 01:36:13,380 and not gone. To have this arrogance about oh, the global 1594 01:36:13,380 --> 01:36:16,500 system. I'm a global citizen. And that's what everybody thinks 1595 01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:19,290 now it is all the millennials, the millennials, most of whom 1596 01:36:19,290 --> 01:36:23,880 can't dry. They're all of a sudden global citizens citizens 1597 01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:27,570 of the globe. The earth is my is my home. I'm alive. I live on 1598 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:32,190 Earth. Yeah, once you move to the Cameroon. I mean, it's just 1599 01:36:32,190 --> 01:36:37,320 unbelievable. This just this. It just sickens me that these guys. 1600 01:36:40,140 --> 01:36:44,460 Yeah. And he believes that he's building a global, a globalist 1601 01:36:44,460 --> 01:36:49,890 tool tool, you know, until we collectively understand that the 1602 01:36:49,890 --> 01:36:54,030 internet is that tool. And we take matters into our own hands 1603 01:36:54,030 --> 01:36:57,240 and just connect stuff together, which is the way it was intended 1604 01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:01,050 in the first place and stop being lazy bastards, maybe we 1605 01:37:01,050 --> 01:37:04,050 will be able to change something. But don't leave it to 1606 01:37:04,050 --> 01:37:04,590 these nodes. 1607 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,920 It happens. It never happens to these guys. They set up shop 1608 01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,830 doing something like Facebook, and everybody's Oh, that's 1609 01:37:10,830 --> 01:37:15,360 easier than me having to do any work. Being the global citizen 1610 01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:19,260 that I am. And they just join and they put their stuff on 1611 01:37:19,260 --> 01:37:22,380 failing. I put my photos on here for everyone to see like I was 1612 01:37:22,380 --> 01:37:27,000 never drunk and Sally. Hey, Sally and his Jamie. Yeah, well, 1613 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,180 that's mean this, to me is ridiculous. I mean that now you 1614 01:37:30,180 --> 01:37:34,590 say the same thing about that woman that shot up YouTube, you 1615 01:37:34,590 --> 01:37:36,750 know, shot in the ground, just as 1616 01:37:36,750 --> 01:37:39,480 just a symptom, a symptom of the disease. Put 1617 01:37:39,480 --> 01:37:42,870 your own videos up, we do our part we don't use for this 1618 01:37:42,870 --> 01:37:47,550 podcast we have we put up our own servers. We don't use pod 1619 01:37:47,550 --> 01:37:48,060 bean. 1620 01:37:50,850 --> 01:37:52,770 You know, I still get their newsletter, though. 1621 01:37:54,480 --> 01:37:57,480 Well, if you weren't doing a small little podcast, and you 1622 01:37:57,480 --> 01:37:59,670 didn't care about if the guy said, hey, you know, I don't 1623 01:37:59,670 --> 01:38:00,630 like you anymore. You know, 1624 01:38:00,630 --> 01:38:03,330 you can always you're out you can always upload your stuff to 1625 01:38:03,330 --> 01:38:04,440 archive.org 1626 01:38:05,580 --> 01:38:07,620 Yeah, there's that. You know, 1627 01:38:07,620 --> 01:38:09,840 someone suggested that for us. I'm like, Well, you know, we 1628 01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,180 really need a little bit of control over stuff we want it to 1629 01:38:12,180 --> 01:38:15,480 get out and you know, we have huge surges of data. You know, 1630 01:38:15,480 --> 01:38:16,230 void Zero 1631 01:38:16,230 --> 01:38:18,780 has an archive can handle this search. 1632 01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:24,870 Void Zero has a permanent alarm system set. Yeah. So when I when 1633 01:38:24,870 --> 01:38:28,710 I when I released the RSS feed, you know, bells and whistles go 1634 01:38:28,710 --> 01:38:32,400 off and serve bemrose is you know, on high alert, because 1635 01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:37,200 when that goes wrong, it goes really wrong. So, and also, you 1636 01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:40,650 know, we don't think Well, I'm sure they could handle the load, 1637 01:38:40,650 --> 01:38:43,500 but they'd be like, hey, what do you what did you bronies doing? 1638 01:38:43,890 --> 01:38:46,050 Yeah, that would be exploitation. That's 1639 01:38:46,380 --> 01:38:48,810 not fair. That's not nice. That's not being a good day. 1640 01:38:49,530 --> 01:38:52,860 Oh my dark I've been this stuff for the long haul but not the 1641 01:38:52,860 --> 01:38:54,060 date not when the show comes out. 1642 01:38:54,090 --> 01:38:55,650 It's not being a good medicine 1643 01:38:57,090 --> 01:38:59,640 and we're good net is remember that remember? We used to call 1644 01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,370 it a netizens Yeah, that'll dead died. 1645 01:39:03,810 --> 01:39:06,900 God Yeah. Once that once those commercial guys came in like 1646 01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:15,240 curry ruined it all ruined the internet. No. See? 1647 01:39:16,050 --> 01:39:19,320 Well, I do have the thing that was that was played on the news. 1648 01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:23,460 The his he came out and they every news channel had him going 1649 01:39:23,460 --> 01:39:27,180 on apologizing. I don't know about what half the time 1650 01:39:27,660 --> 01:39:30,060 but the stock price being down. That's what he that's what he's 1651 01:39:30,060 --> 01:39:33,840 really apologizing for? Yeah, what do we have? Facebook 1652 01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,090 rundown NBC. That would be it. 1653 01:39:36,809 --> 01:39:40,529 But our top story this evening is Facebook makeup sorry major 1654 01:39:40,529 --> 01:39:44,129 headlines. It's embattled CEO Mark Zuckerberg agreeing to 1655 01:39:44,129 --> 01:39:47,519 testify before Congress. As we also learned today that the 1656 01:39:47,519 --> 01:39:52,319 siphoning of Facebook user data by Cambridge Analytica was far 1657 01:39:52,319 --> 01:39:56,009 bigger than first announced or Miguel el McGarr has the latest. 1658 01:39:57,630 --> 01:40:01,530 Tonight Facebook's as the personal data data of up to 87 1659 01:40:01,530 --> 01:40:05,700 million people, mostly in the US was improperly shared with 1660 01:40:05,700 --> 01:40:09,480 Cambridge Analytica 10s of millions more than previously 1661 01:40:09,480 --> 01:40:14,100 thought. The Privacy scandal connected to the 2016 election 1662 01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:19,710 of breach of trust. The fallout forcing Facebook CEO Mark 1663 01:40:19,710 --> 01:40:23,430 Zuckerberg to now testify before Congress next week, for the 1664 01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:27,420 first time. Today, he spoke to reporters by phone. 1665 01:40:27,690 --> 01:40:31,110 It's not enough to just give people a voice. We have to make 1666 01:40:31,110 --> 01:40:34,320 sure that people are not using that voice to hurt people or to 1667 01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:35,400 spread misinformation. 1668 01:40:35,670 --> 01:40:39,000 Zuckerberg taking full responsibility, saying he's the 1669 01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:43,170 best person to run his company trying to reassure users and the 1670 01:40:43,170 --> 01:40:45,060 company's shareholders. 1671 01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:49,020 We didn't take a broad enough view of what our responsibility 1672 01:40:49,020 --> 01:40:52,890 is. And that was a huge mistake. And it was it was my mistake. 1673 01:40:53,220 --> 01:40:57,180 Facebook also announcing new security features to protect its 1674 01:40:57,180 --> 01:41:01,710 2 billion users saying nearly all I've had basic information 1675 01:41:01,740 --> 01:41:02,430 taken 1676 01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,860 the fact that someone could come along look at your public 1677 01:41:04,860 --> 01:41:08,070 Facebook page and take that data down and you know, use it in 1678 01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:10,110 other ways is not at all surprising to me. 1679 01:41:10,140 --> 01:41:15,360 With some leaving Facebook the company's losing value down $87 1680 01:41:15,390 --> 01:41:21,360 billion. Tonight Facebook accused of sharing too much all 1681 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:26,400 eyes now on the quiet CEO as Zuckerberg goes to Washington. 1682 01:41:27,450 --> 01:41:30,420 Tonight, Cambridge Analytica says it only access the 1683 01:41:30,420 --> 01:41:34,710 information of 30 million individuals not at 7 million. As 1684 01:41:34,710 --> 01:41:37,890 for Facebook, the social media giant says starting Monday it'll 1685 01:41:37,890 --> 01:41:41,430 notify its users if their personal information may have 1686 01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:43,380 been compromised, Lester? 1687 01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:51,210 What a shitshow fun to watch though. I love seeing the guy 1688 01:41:51,210 --> 01:41:53,970 sweat a little he should sweat. Actually. He should go into one 1689 01:41:53,970 --> 01:41:56,220 of those sweating modes if you've never seen his sweating 1690 01:41:56,220 --> 01:41:56,880 episode, 1691 01:41:57,510 --> 01:42:00,180 which will maybe that'll happen in front of Congress. That would 1692 01:42:00,180 --> 01:42:01,050 be great. 1693 01:42:01,770 --> 01:42:04,410 I may sound vindictive, but 1694 01:42:05,580 --> 01:42:10,140 screw it. Yeah. Well, you do. Yeah. But it's fine. I think the 1695 01:42:10,260 --> 01:42:13,260 he doesn't know what to expect, because he's never testified 1696 01:42:13,260 --> 01:42:16,080 before a bunch of a holes like some of these guys. Oh, yeah. 1697 01:42:16,110 --> 01:42:18,870 Can't be. I mean, there'll be all thank you for coming. Mr. 1698 01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:19,680 Zuckerberg. Well, 1699 01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,200 it'll be interesting to see if everyone's sucking up or not. 1700 01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:27,450 I don't think I think I can see some guys not sucking up. They 1701 01:42:27,450 --> 01:42:30,090 won't get played much. You're gonna have to watch the C span, 1702 01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:33,480 because no one's going to play the good stuff on the networks. 1703 01:42:33,900 --> 01:42:37,740 So we'll find the good stuff on C span and then see how are we 1704 01:42:37,740 --> 01:42:41,460 actually may be? I don't know. I mean, it seems to me that you 1705 01:42:41,460 --> 01:42:46,770 want. You want to do do a Trump and put people who can talk in 1706 01:42:46,770 --> 01:42:50,070 front of the Congress. And that would be Sheryl Sandberg. Yes, 1707 01:42:50,190 --> 01:42:53,610 she's X. She's extraordinary. She's one of those executives 1708 01:42:53,610 --> 01:42:56,850 used to work at the government in that executive corps, 1709 01:42:57,300 --> 01:43:01,110 bouncing around from the CIA. She's pretty clear and all that 1710 01:43:01,110 --> 01:43:04,830 she's all she knows what she knows what the government's 1711 01:43:04,830 --> 01:43:08,640 like. She's been there. And she knows how to speak in public. 1712 01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:11,910 She's been a lot of talk shows and been personable not like 1713 01:43:12,030 --> 01:43:15,990 Zuckerberg being interviewed into like a robot. She's the one 1714 01:43:16,020 --> 01:43:20,280 she handled it. She saved the company. But no, no, He figures 1715 01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:21,600 he can do it. You know, why is 1716 01:43:21,630 --> 01:43:27,450 misogyny? Is it Mark Zuckerberg is misogynist the right person 1717 01:43:27,450 --> 01:43:30,390 for the job? No doubt about it is Sheryl Sandberg. 1718 01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:34,560 Yeah, there's no question about it. And that there's no excuse 1719 01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,440 not to let her no one's gonna say, well, we wanted to talk to 1720 01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:41,610 the CEO. She says, I mean, we work together. You're talking to 1721 01:43:41,610 --> 01:43:45,090 the same. We were all part of a team. She'd handle that 1722 01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:46,860 question. Yeah. 1723 01:43:47,460 --> 01:43:49,920 You know, and of course, we'll be watching the C span to get 1724 01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:54,090 something just like one of our producers was watching a 1725 01:43:54,090 --> 01:44:02,070 Tennessee House debate. This is House Bill 1950. About hazing in 1726 01:44:02,070 --> 01:44:05,910 college. And just to give you an idea of how stupid some people 1727 01:44:05,910 --> 01:44:07,290 are, listen to this gym. 1728 01:44:07,530 --> 01:44:10,380 And we're also just targeting fraternities and sororities. And 1729 01:44:10,380 --> 01:44:13,650 so what I would like to do is is actually make a motion to send 1730 01:44:13,650 --> 01:44:17,040 this to Summer Study so that we can figure out what the real 1731 01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:20,370 problem is and what Tennessee can actually do about it. I 1732 01:44:20,370 --> 01:44:22,650 don't I don't think we know the answer to either one of those 1733 01:44:22,650 --> 01:44:26,550 two questions right now. And again, this bill seems to kind 1734 01:44:26,550 --> 01:44:29,850 of cherry pick just those fraternities and sororities 1735 01:44:30,450 --> 01:44:35,340 which on itself seems a little bit offensive to those groups 1736 01:44:35,370 --> 01:44:39,180 but then on the backside of it the punishment is so light that 1737 01:44:39,180 --> 01:44:43,650 it doesn't really seem to to fit the crime so to speak. So with 1738 01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,350 with your indulgence and with the committee's help I do think 1739 01:44:46,350 --> 01:44:48,330 this warrants a larger conversation I would like to 1740 01:44:48,330 --> 01:44:49,710 make a motion to Senator Summer Study 1741 01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:53,760 so motion in a second that is a debatable motion and by Chairman 1742 01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:55,590 we will say you make some good points I'm gonna see misdemeanor 1743 01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:58,050 is basically a traffic offense. I mean, it's a stop sign or a 1744 01:44:58,050 --> 01:45:00,360 speeding ticket. Represent event us. 1745 01:45:00,750 --> 01:45:02,970 Thanks, sir and I agree with Vice Chairman Kersey has 1746 01:45:02,970 --> 01:45:06,300 sentiment sentiment. I'm reading right here on the onion report 1747 01:45:06,300 --> 01:45:10,860 about Kentucky seniors who haze freshman basketball players 1748 01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:15,930 in that great, unbelievable. Reading it in the onion, and 1749 01:45:15,930 --> 01:45:16,980 then he quotes 1750 01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,060 what an ad is, and no one says anything. 1751 01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:25,980 Just cool idea. Yeah, that's 1752 01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:31,020 I just in the back to OTG. For one second, I learned something 1753 01:45:31,020 --> 01:45:33,960 that I did not know. And you know, we are big fans of ham. 1754 01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:40,410 Not the data is the new bacon but ham radio, amateur radio. We 1755 01:45:40,410 --> 01:45:42,000 both are licensed a little more, 1756 01:45:42,030 --> 01:45:44,640 and everyone out there should get a license. If anyone knows 1757 01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,250 anything about computers, you almost pass the technical one 1758 01:45:47,250 --> 01:45:48,600 just without even taking any. 1759 01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,060 It's multiple choice. You get all the 1760 01:45:52,620 --> 01:45:57,030 quizzes. Yeah. There's only X number of questions they can ask 1761 01:45:57,030 --> 01:46:00,270 those are all public. Yes, you can read over the questions and 1762 01:46:00,270 --> 01:46:03,090 the answers to all the questions you'll be asked, it doesn't take 1763 01:46:03,090 --> 01:46:04,350 a genius to pass this test, 1764 01:46:04,530 --> 01:46:07,980 it'll just be in a different order. That's all now as a 1765 01:46:07,980 --> 01:46:10,560 technician, you're allowed to do this. So with that, with that 1766 01:46:10,590 --> 01:46:18,060 really quite simple test. You can transceiver on 70 1767 01:46:18,060 --> 01:46:22,170 centimeters and two meters, couple other bands as well. But 1768 01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:27,720 there is a community there is a ham community that is using the 1769 01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:34,410 puck sag protocol. And Puck sag protocol is the pager protocol. 1770 01:46:34,950 --> 01:46:39,630 And they're hooking up you know, cheap restaurant pager systems 1771 01:46:39,990 --> 01:46:44,130 that you can buy off Amazon or eBay or Alibaba. And then 1772 01:46:44,130 --> 01:46:46,980 they're hooking it up to 50 Watts, I think you can actually 1773 01:46:46,980 --> 01:46:51,960 go up to 200 even as a technician. And you can bridge 1774 01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:57,510 it with a as a as a pager that will repeat messages and will 1775 01:46:57,510 --> 01:47:00,630 receive them as well. So you can set up your own two way 1776 01:47:00,630 --> 01:47:06,360 messaging service now 200 Watts, you can do pretty good. around 1777 01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,720 town, you can do pretty well, pretty well. And you can also 1778 01:47:10,500 --> 01:47:14,100 mesh that with other hams. So you have a hand off, we could 1779 01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:16,770 build our own off the grid network. 1780 01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,540 And the purpose would be 1781 01:47:21,570 --> 01:47:30,300 just to stop doing this podcast and have a life. Be rich. How 1782 01:47:30,570 --> 01:47:31,890 off the page your network. 1783 01:47:33,060 --> 01:47:36,510 Know that you monetize the page your network. Oh, do 1784 01:47:36,510 --> 01:47:41,760 I have to pay a subscription fee? Yeah, okay, well, you might 1785 01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:46,200 be on to something. Or on something. What are the two? 1786 01:47:47,130 --> 01:47:51,450 Yeah, exactly. Maybe some of that knew we'd have you heard 1787 01:47:51,450 --> 01:47:55,170 about this stuff. People are smoking this synthetic weed and 1788 01:47:55,350 --> 01:47:58,470 smoke synthetic weed. I mean, I don't understand what people are 1789 01:47:58,470 --> 01:48:00,090 doing. It looks like popery. 1790 01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,610 All right. We'll begin with this our big story. Right now. Police 1791 01:48:02,610 --> 01:48:05,700 and health officials in the Chicago area are scrambling to 1792 01:48:05,700 --> 01:48:10,020 track down and shut down the source of synthetic marijuana 1793 01:48:10,110 --> 01:48:13,470 that is killing people. So far three people have been arrested 1794 01:48:13,470 --> 01:48:16,950 they're charged with trying to sell the fake weed to a 1795 01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:20,400 convenience store. To have the suspects made their initial 1796 01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:23,220 appearance today before a judge that let's explain why it's so 1797 01:48:23,220 --> 01:48:27,240 dangerous preliminary testing of some of that fake weed showed it 1798 01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:32,130 was laced with a toxic substance frequently used in rat poison. 1799 01:48:32,580 --> 01:48:34,800 The Illinois Department of Health says right now there have 1800 01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:38,460 been at least 70 reports of people have experienced terrible 1801 01:48:38,490 --> 01:48:42,120 symptoms like severe bleeding including bloody gum Some even 1802 01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:45,720 say they coughed up blood after taking the drug so far two 1803 01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:49,590 people have lost their lives and officials fear more people could 1804 01:48:49,590 --> 01:48:50,070 die 1805 01:48:50,220 --> 01:48:53,670 yeah and this is people with blood coming out of their ears 1806 01:48:53,670 --> 01:48:55,140 out of their eyes 1807 01:48:56,640 --> 01:49:00,510 people what's the name of the day of the job this week a bola 1808 01:49:02,430 --> 01:49:03,180 bola 1809 01:49:06,990 --> 01:49:12,840 people it's a weed, plant some seeds. Anything Do not be It's 1810 01:49:12,870 --> 01:49:18,030 looks like popery. Are they thinking and finally we're 1811 01:49:18,030 --> 01:49:21,990 getting bad owners Yeah or No, I think it's idiots. 1812 01:49:22,410 --> 01:49:23,550 It's still theirs. Why 1813 01:49:23,550 --> 01:49:28,050 would you I mean kids they really they got guts. Back in 1814 01:49:28,050 --> 01:49:30,180 the day we like you know who Where'd you get this from? 1815 01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:32,430 You've been all over the place. Remember that when you say Hey, 1816 01:49:32,430 --> 01:49:34,410 where'd you get the weed from? Who's it from? I need to check 1817 01:49:34,410 --> 01:49:36,330 it I just want to know I just want to know where it's from. 1818 01:49:36,930 --> 01:49:44,100 You never did that. No. You never smoked kratom back under 1819 01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:45,930 fire once again. This is the 1820 01:49:46,770 --> 01:49:49,980 this is a shame. I still have. I still have a bag everybody. 1821 01:49:50,010 --> 01:49:53,220 I still have a bag of this but I just haven't had the guts to try 1822 01:49:53,220 --> 01:49:56,220 it. But we have a lot of producers who use it to wean 1823 01:49:56,220 --> 01:49:59,160 themselves off of opioids they use it instead of opioids. It 1824 01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,340 seems to be an absolute magic. It's good for all kinds of 1825 01:50:02,340 --> 01:50:06,900 magical herbs again, just like marijuana it comes from, from 1826 01:50:06,900 --> 01:50:08,130 nature from a tree. 1827 01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:11,490 For decades and Southeast Asia, the leaves of the kratom tree 1828 01:50:11,490 --> 01:50:14,610 have been used to treat aches and pains here in the United 1829 01:50:14,610 --> 01:50:17,340 States, you can buy kratom over the counter in the form of a 1830 01:50:17,340 --> 01:50:21,660 powder, pill or T. According to the American kratom Association, 1831 01:50:21,780 --> 01:50:25,320 three to 5 million people in this country have used kratom 1832 01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:27,990 products. The research that's been done indicates that people 1833 01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:31,050 are using kratom to help alleviate chronic pain to treat 1834 01:50:31,050 --> 01:50:34,050 mood disorders like anxiety and depression and in some cases to 1835 01:50:34,050 --> 01:50:37,650 help wean themselves off of opioids. But the FDA says kratom 1836 01:50:37,650 --> 01:50:41,730 itself is an opioid, the FDA warned it can be dangerous and 1837 01:50:41,730 --> 01:50:44,910 even fatal, saying it's associated with more than three 1838 01:50:44,910 --> 01:50:48,510 dozen deaths. The Centers for Disease Control says kratom may 1839 01:50:48,510 --> 01:50:52,320 be tied to recent salmonella outbreaks, the CDC recommends 1840 01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:56,640 kratom should not be consumed in any form. Consumer Reports also 1841 01:50:56,640 --> 01:51:00,420 has concerns because like all supplements Kratom is not 1842 01:51:00,420 --> 01:51:03,390 regulated, any given kratom product can be grossly 1843 01:51:03,390 --> 01:51:06,570 mislabeled. It can be laced with other substances, including 1844 01:51:06,570 --> 01:51:09,750 illegal drugs or prescription medications, and it can interact 1845 01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:11,610 with other medications that you're taking in ways that are 1846 01:51:11,610 --> 01:51:15,390 really dangerous. Right now the Drug Enforcement Agency lists 1847 01:51:15,390 --> 01:51:20,460 kratom as a drug and chemical of concern by DEA could reclassify 1848 01:51:20,460 --> 01:51:24,810 kratom to the same category as heroin, LSD and ecstasy 1849 01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:28,410 essentially banning it for consumers. The American kratom 1850 01:51:28,410 --> 01:51:32,610 Association argues making kratom illegal could drive more people 1851 01:51:32,610 --> 01:51:36,060 to prescription painkillers or illegal drugs to treat their 1852 01:51:36,060 --> 01:51:39,960 symptoms. The organization says it supports appropriate FDA 1853 01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:44,340 regulations to ensure the safety and purity of kratom but not a 1854 01:51:44,340 --> 01:51:48,210 ban. The DEA is reviewing data and public comments. 1855 01:51:49,620 --> 01:51:53,010 Yeah, ya, although we are getting a deregulation so people 1856 01:51:53,010 --> 01:51:56,490 will be able to try experimental pharma drugs, that's okay. 1857 01:51:58,350 --> 01:52:01,170 Is that house to madhouse? 1858 01:52:01,230 --> 01:52:04,980 And yeah, especially when you hear a report like this, thank 1859 01:52:04,980 --> 01:52:05,490 goodness 1860 01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:09,120 legalizing marijuana could lead to fewer people taking 1861 01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:12,000 prescription painkillers and experts say that means people 1862 01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:16,230 might be less likely to overdose on opioids. Two studies released 1863 01:52:16,230 --> 01:52:18,690 today looked at Medicare and Medicaid patients in states 1864 01:52:18,690 --> 01:52:21,330 where pot is legal. It found that opioids were prescribed 1865 01:52:21,330 --> 01:52:25,020 less often and taken less in those states. Medical Marijuana 1866 01:52:25,020 --> 01:52:27,960 has been called a lower risk alternative to opioids by 1867 01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:31,500 advocates, but some disagree. Other studies have found 1868 01:52:31,500 --> 01:52:35,340 marijuana might lead to future opioid use. Experts want states 1869 01:52:35,340 --> 01:52:38,130 and the federal government to pay for more studies to see if 1870 01:52:38,130 --> 01:52:39,150 there is a link. 1871 01:52:39,630 --> 01:52:43,980 Could there be a link for 1000s of years? 1000s of years. 1872 01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:47,880 There's no money for studies. Yeah, speaking of 1873 01:52:49,020 --> 01:52:51,600 language. Before you get off that topic, you might as well I 1874 01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:55,650 do have a Oh, sorry. I have a similar one. Where's that maybe 1875 01:52:55,650 --> 01:53:01,200 I didn't move it over. It was on the last week was about killer 1876 01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:04,710 hospital killer. They found out that people are dropping dead in 1877 01:53:04,710 --> 01:53:08,400 the hospital. Like I can look it up real quick. Yes. And look at 1878 01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:09,570 last week's list 1879 01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:13,920 last week or the last show that show on a second. I gotta go. 1880 01:53:13,980 --> 01:53:20,010 I'm diving deep here for your bra. Diving deep. Okay. I have 1881 01:53:20,010 --> 01:53:25,890 to go into the database. But here it is. Under JCD clips we 1882 01:53:25,890 --> 01:53:32,700 have Hmm. I don't see anything about weed. No hospital or 1883 01:53:32,700 --> 01:53:33,840 hospital death secret? 1884 01:53:34,110 --> 01:53:38,490 Yes. That is not botched surgeries or risky procedures. 1885 01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,970 On Your Side. Chief Investigator Ron Regan joins us with finding 1886 01:53:41,970 --> 01:53:45,600 1000s of avoidable deaths are happening in hospitals across 1887 01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:48,810 the country. These are patients who are recovering so well. 1888 01:53:48,990 --> 01:53:51,990 They're back in their own hospital room talking with 1889 01:53:51,990 --> 01:53:57,090 family members. But we found far too many are dying within hours. 1890 01:53:57,270 --> 01:53:59,850 And hospitals are failing to rescue. 1891 01:54:00,180 --> 01:54:01,080 What's happening. 1892 01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,940 Well, this is actually a long report. But they nobody wants to 1893 01:54:05,940 --> 01:54:09,090 talk about this. But first you go into recovery and then you go 1894 01:54:09,090 --> 01:54:12,450 into just the everyday room was very not monitored that much. 1895 01:54:12,450 --> 01:54:15,090 Right. Right. And you're healthy or good. You're ready to go home 1896 01:54:15,090 --> 01:54:19,890 and get to go home in an hour. Two hours later, you're dead. It 1897 01:54:19,890 --> 01:54:24,180 turns out that they're giving everybody these painkillers. Oh, 1898 01:54:24,180 --> 01:54:27,510 you're kidding me. Fentanyl. And all the rest of it is and it's 1899 01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:31,200 depressing their their lung function just enough that if 1900 01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:35,010 they have sleep apnea, then they die in their sleep. They take a 1901 01:54:35,010 --> 01:54:37,470 nap and drop dead. Oh, well, they're 1902 01:54:37,470 --> 01:54:38,220 already dropped. 1903 01:54:38,250 --> 01:54:40,260 You would have survived that 1000s 1904 01:54:40,559 --> 01:54:47,099 Holy crap. Yes. Oh my gosh. This is a scandal. 1905 01:54:47,490 --> 01:54:49,710 It's a total scandal. They're trying to make it into one but 1906 01:54:49,710 --> 01:54:52,470 it's been that reports the last time I've heard it. 1907 01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:55,950 What station was that on? What network? Where'd that 1908 01:54:55,950 --> 01:54:59,010 come? I think it was on. I think it was on ABC but I'm not sure 1909 01:54:59,010 --> 01:54:59,280 this 1910 01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:02,220 warrants for their investigation. Yes, it does. 1911 01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:10,260 Just like the Nova chalk. Which, and I guess I don't know what 1912 01:55:10,260 --> 01:55:13,800 happened to some I thought I had a clip of the guy from Portland 1913 01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:18,210 down saying this but I can't find it now. Portland down, 1914 01:55:18,210 --> 01:55:21,240 experts said they were unable to identify the source of the 1915 01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:23,880 novichok virus. That's not their job as well. They 1916 01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:27,060 say that a virus is the agent, the nerve agent. I'm 1917 01:55:27,060 --> 01:55:29,820 sorry. Yeah, it's not our job. It's not our job to find out 1918 01:55:29,820 --> 01:55:33,660 where it's from, even though the government clearly knows. 1919 01:55:33,810 --> 01:55:38,580 They've got it all figured out. It's came from Russians. But the 1920 01:55:38,940 --> 01:55:42,570 Yeah, we that's why the Russians can't get a copy of it so they 1921 01:55:42,570 --> 01:55:45,810 can prove it didn't come from Russia. It was even Nova Chuck. 1922 01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:49,050 But here comes the late days this thing stinks to high 1923 01:55:49,050 --> 01:55:51,990 heaven. Well, here comes the latest that I really loved. 1924 01:55:54,210 --> 01:56:03,510 Apparently, these two had dinner at a restaurant ZZ restaurant in 1925 01:56:03,510 --> 01:56:07,590 Salisbury. And this could be total crap because it's coming 1926 01:56:07,590 --> 01:56:13,980 from split neck so I don't know. But that they had FUBU FUBU goo 1927 01:56:13,980 --> 01:56:14,520 fish 1928 01:56:17,190 --> 01:56:21,060 with a serving FUBU for it at Solsbury restaurant in the UK 1929 01:56:22,500 --> 01:56:25,980 I'm just reporting on what the Russian sources say I thought it 1930 01:56:25,980 --> 01:56:29,520 was great and that's the Japanese blowfish that if 1931 01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,410 prepared incorrectly you will die 1932 01:56:32,010 --> 01:56:34,890 yeah you get nerve damage it's a nerve agent Yeah. 1933 01:56:35,940 --> 01:56:36,960 Well how about that 1934 01:56:36,990 --> 01:56:42,180 in fact even when this stuff is not contaminated with the I 1935 01:56:42,180 --> 01:56:44,580 think his gallbladder some little thing gets in there one 1936 01:56:44,580 --> 01:56:49,320 drop and you're done to the flesh itself gives you a kind of 1937 01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:53,100 a slight numbness and a buzz it makes you think you're gonna die 1938 01:56:53,100 --> 01:56:57,810 anyway, but it's very has to be prepared in Japan by a special 1939 01:56:57,870 --> 01:57:01,560 specialist. Yes. And very I mean, it's still a few people 1940 01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:05,220 die every year but it's usually because you ate it and Solsbury 1941 01:57:05,250 --> 01:57:07,680 remember to believe this story remember it's not 1942 01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:09,990 the fish that kill people. Yeah 1943 01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:14,730 well if that's true then the problem is is that the first 1944 01:57:14,730 --> 01:57:18,540 responder Why would make him just have an issue 1945 01:57:20,010 --> 01:57:23,190 and then we can finally change the if this were true though. 1946 01:57:23,190 --> 01:57:28,890 You could just you could change all the headlines in the UK it 1947 01:57:28,890 --> 01:57:29,880 was a blow job 1948 01:57:33,060 --> 01:57:35,220 yeah, you could you could do that. You could actually do that 1949 01:57:35,220 --> 01:57:35,400 because 1950 01:57:35,490 --> 01:57:36,420 the sun do that. 1951 01:57:36,810 --> 01:57:44,010 Yeah. Okay, let's get the keep up with some a little bit of 1952 01:57:45,060 --> 01:57:48,210 Well, here's another eight NBC. This is a weird NBC Trump 1953 01:57:48,210 --> 01:57:51,180 rundown I got a kick out of this because this was on the one of 1954 01:57:51,180 --> 01:57:53,940 the shows are talking about the YouTube shooter and they they 1955 01:57:53,940 --> 01:57:57,270 had to get their digs in with Trump. But the very weak 1956 01:57:57,270 --> 01:58:01,920 presentation, I thought, because Trump, once again brought up 1957 01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:05,730 fake news. And this was like, Oh, this is so awkward that he 1958 01:58:05,730 --> 01:58:11,220 did that and what's he doing? So this is like a lame report from 1959 01:58:11,220 --> 01:58:13,620 NBC trying to make Trump look bad. 1960 01:58:13,650 --> 01:58:16,230 The president today also reinforcing his support for 1961 01:58:16,230 --> 01:58:19,380 Baltic Allies anxious about their own shared border with 1962 01:58:19,380 --> 01:58:22,860 Russia, repeatedly touting a tough track record, despite 1963 01:58:22,860 --> 01:58:25,470 having never publicly condemned Vladimir Putin. 1964 01:58:25,590 --> 01:58:29,310 Probably nobody's been tougher to Russia than Donald Trump. But 1965 01:58:29,310 --> 01:58:32,670 getting along with Russia would be a good thing. Not a bad 1966 01:58:32,670 --> 01:58:36,330 thing. And just about everybody agrees to that, except very 1967 01:58:36,330 --> 01:58:37,260 stupid people. 1968 01:58:37,350 --> 01:58:39,900 Before concluding the news conference with journalists from 1969 01:58:39,900 --> 01:58:43,110 four countries. This glaring moment you could pick a 1970 01:58:43,110 --> 01:58:48,300 reporter, a Baltic reporter, ideally. Real News, not fake 1971 01:58:48,300 --> 01:58:48,900 news. 1972 01:58:49,950 --> 01:58:52,470 Also, tonight, a milestone in the Russia investigation, a 1973 01:58:52,470 --> 01:58:56,100 lawyer becoming the first person going to prison a federal judge 1974 01:58:56,100 --> 01:58:59,760 today making an example out of Alex Vander Zwaan. Sentencing 1975 01:58:59,970 --> 01:59:03,960 the London based lawyer to 30 days behind bars for lying the 1976 01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:05,700 Special Counsel Robert Muller's team. 1977 01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:09,600 That's that's the big deal. The guy's going to jail for 30 days. 1978 01:59:10,740 --> 01:59:13,800 I don't even know who this guy is. That was the Dutch guy, 1979 01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:18,390 the Dutch lawyer who was with manwich 1980 01:59:18,570 --> 01:59:21,420 say they make they're gonna throw him in jail for 30 days 1981 01:59:21,420 --> 01:59:22,710 like contempt to court and yeah, 1982 01:59:22,710 --> 01:59:26,070 I don't know idea probably. Probably I don't know. But it 1983 01:59:26,070 --> 01:59:30,750 makes the president sound like a real jailbird that report that 1984 01:59:30,750 --> 01:59:33,840 was the idea they also said use the word glaring this the thing 1985 01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:37,170 where he says, guys that this report is worth listening to and 1986 01:59:37,170 --> 01:59:39,690 deconstructing the guy says, It's glaring, 1987 01:59:40,110 --> 01:59:43,200 glaring, glaring right in my face and so horrible. 1988 01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:48,120 I mean, the whole thing was just a, you know, it was unbelievable 1989 01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:53,040 to me. This is report any they also what is the preoccupation 1990 01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:58,410 with Trump having he has to Dodi these ugly he's a douchebag 1991 01:59:58,410 --> 02:00:02,640 unless he condemn is Putin call him and he has to do it quickly. 1992 02:00:03,510 --> 02:00:06,630 Well, it's already too quickly part is done. It's over. So if 1993 02:00:06,630 --> 02:00:08,640 he ever does condemn him, which I doubt Well, this 1994 02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:12,930 is part of the Game of Thrones shaming culture that we've 1995 02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:17,340 somehow latched on to and it's supposed to work. Before we take 1996 02:00:17,340 --> 02:00:18,000 our break. 1997 02:00:18,510 --> 02:00:21,630 Let thrones shame shaming culture. Yes. Where did that 1998 02:00:21,630 --> 02:00:22,560 come from? Well, that's 1999 02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:27,960 what they do. Shame. Shame, shame. Shame. Yes, they shame. 2000 02:00:28,380 --> 02:00:31,920 I actually liked that little ditty Game of Thrones. The Shame 2001 02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:32,100 shame 2002 02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:34,890 shame culture. No, not not shaming, just shame. Game of 2003 02:00:34,890 --> 02:00:40,500 Thrones shame, culture, shame culture. Is it a column? No, 2004 02:00:40,500 --> 02:00:40,620 it's 2005 02:00:40,620 --> 02:00:43,800 not a column. It's just a interesting observation. Because 2006 02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:45,300 I don't never watched Game of Thrones. 2007 02:00:45,629 --> 02:00:48,629 So you wrote it down? Yeah, I did write it down. And what are 2008 02:00:48,629 --> 02:00:51,389 you gonna do with that piece of paper to go on the pile? It's 2009 02:00:51,389 --> 02:00:51,629 gonna go 2010 02:00:51,630 --> 02:00:53,160 on the pile and get lost. Okay, good. 2011 02:00:58,590 --> 02:01:01,110 When we take our break, we like to talk about our model. Our 2012 02:01:01,110 --> 02:01:04,560 model is the value for value model where we learned very 2013 02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:07,740 early on it makes a lot more sense for people to just give us 2014 02:01:07,740 --> 02:01:09,840 what you think the show was worth. And that's very different 2015 02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:13,500 to people based upon their their personal circumstances. For 2016 02:01:13,500 --> 02:01:18,990 whole different reasons. There was this yet, this is like 2017 02:01:18,990 --> 02:01:23,310 another podcast network raised $5 million. Oh, yeah. Hey, 2018 02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:27,420 Lopez, wondery Podcast Network. And yeah, and I just love this 2019 02:01:27,420 --> 02:01:31,770 because the all these bronies have all invented this wheel. My 2020 02:01:31,770 --> 02:01:34,050 phone's not ringing. Oh, yeah. My phone is ringing the 2021 02:01:34,050 --> 02:01:36,840 top made a point in the newsletter mentioning this, I 2022 02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:39,390 think Did I was in the newsletter. 2023 02:01:40,530 --> 02:01:41,520 No, I don't think so. 2024 02:01:41,550 --> 02:01:45,480 I put it somewhere. I wasn't in this last night. No, maybe I 2025 02:01:45,480 --> 02:01:49,980 just know it was a tweet. I think. I don't know what it was 2026 02:01:49,980 --> 02:01:55,800 a crazy amount of control. But it's ridiculous to me that the 2027 02:01:55,800 --> 02:02:02,070 guy who invented the medium it's never been contacted by anybody 2028 02:02:02,070 --> 02:02:04,140 rolling out these things that would you'd be perfect. You'd be 2029 02:02:04,140 --> 02:02:07,110 a good figurehead. I mean, you already have been once 2030 02:02:08,790 --> 02:02:12,210 Well, I I think they all know my stance. That's why they're not 2031 02:02:12,210 --> 02:02:15,570 interested. They want me to come on CNBC and talk about Spotify 2032 02:02:15,570 --> 02:02:18,630 and you don't give a shit about podcasting. You blew your 2033 02:02:18,630 --> 02:02:24,450 opportunity. Yep. Oh, please. This our producer our producer 2034 02:02:24,450 --> 02:02:29,520 will have me on and I will not say Michael Jackson was killed. 2035 02:02:30,780 --> 02:02:33,150 We can't put our guy in jeopardy. That would be no good. 2036 02:02:34,230 --> 02:02:38,130 But there was a you know the gym let the giblet Podcast Network 2037 02:02:38,130 --> 02:02:45,030 Alex Bloomberg. Forget the the gimlet the X NPR people. They 2038 02:02:45,030 --> 02:02:48,390 start there now. Right. gimlet? The gimlet? Yep. So they're on 2039 02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:53,130 the Goldman Sachs talk, which is like a TED talk only it's bad. 2040 02:02:53,610 --> 02:03:00,210 And as an interview with Alex Bloomberg of gimlet and the 2041 02:03:00,210 --> 02:03:03,270 second guy who answered at the end of the clip is Jacob 2042 02:03:03,270 --> 02:03:06,960 Weisberg, he's the editor in chief at Slate. And these are 2043 02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:11,880 podcast gurus, you see. And so this, this is all really stuff. 2044 02:03:12,420 --> 02:03:15,420 This is not sour grapes on my part, this is just historical 2045 02:03:15,420 --> 02:03:18,840 fact. And the stupid it's funny, funny to listen to. Because 2046 02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:23,700 we've we've we've literally invented this. And it's gonna 2047 02:03:23,700 --> 02:03:27,090 take them 10 years to figure it out. That you can't monetize 2048 02:03:27,090 --> 02:03:29,940 your network. Just think it's radio. They just think is right. 2049 02:03:29,940 --> 02:03:32,310 They just want it to be radio, that thing that they can do it 2050 02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:35,760 with, with ads and the studios we have studios are 2051 02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:39,300 transmitters. We don't need no stinking transmitters, but we do 2052 02:03:39,300 --> 02:03:42,450 need a board. And we need that and a board up and we need to 2053 02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:48,060 you know, internally, engineer, producer, people, runners we 2054 02:03:48,060 --> 02:03:53,640 need we need all that. So listen to these Jumoke the future the 2055 02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:57,930 businesses of the future of the medium. I mean, don't ask me 2056 02:03:57,930 --> 02:04:01,080 that question. What do you think the future is of the medium? 2057 02:04:01,410 --> 02:04:07,920 What do you think his answer is? John? Oh, sky's the limit. Yeah, 2058 02:04:07,950 --> 02:04:09,930 you know, what, what do you think the future the businesses 2059 02:04:09,930 --> 02:04:12,330 of the future of the medium this? 2060 02:04:13,290 --> 02:04:18,420 I like to say it panels like this, that we're at the dawn of 2061 02:04:18,420 --> 02:04:21,480 the second golden age of audio. I think that like if you think 2062 02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:24,990 about the first golden age, it was like 2030s radio, radio was 2063 02:04:24,990 --> 02:04:29,640 king. Everybody had a radio. And all these big names got stuck, 2064 02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:32,910 you know, Lucille Ball and like Orson Welles, and CBS got 2065 02:04:32,910 --> 02:04:35,730 started around that. And then TV came along and sort of like, 2066 02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:38,550 people had their radios already with NBC. 2067 02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:40,680 Lucille Ball started in radio. 2068 02:04:41,100 --> 02:04:43,890 Yeah, it started with what she started. She's a movie actress, 2069 02:04:43,890 --> 02:04:46,590 and she did a lot of radio, but she didn't. Maybe she had a 2070 02:04:46,590 --> 02:04:49,560 show. I don't think so. I don't remember it. But I mean, he 2071 02:04:49,560 --> 02:04:53,970 mentioned Jack Benny, and all these characters. Bob Hope, Ron. 2072 02:04:54,900 --> 02:04:58,080 And if you mentioned NBC, which is really the first networks 2073 02:04:58,080 --> 02:04:59,130 he'd been Oh no, 2074 02:04:59,130 --> 02:05:02,940 no, no, no. I don't have that. But you're already here, where 2075 02:05:02,940 --> 02:05:04,170 he's going, it's radio 2076 02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:07,110 came along and sort of like his radio, people had their radios 2077 02:05:07,110 --> 02:05:09,300 in their corner, and they sat around and looked at them. But 2078 02:05:09,330 --> 02:05:10,950 of course, they don't need pictures on the radio and the TV 2079 02:05:10,950 --> 02:05:12,420 comes along, and they're like, Oh, we're gonna stick that in 2080 02:05:12,420 --> 02:05:14,940 the corner and watch it, because it's much better to watch. But 2081 02:05:14,940 --> 02:05:18,270 now with like, on demand now that we have on demand audio 2082 02:05:18,270 --> 02:05:21,330 available to everyone, it's changing the form the same way 2083 02:05:21,330 --> 02:05:24,720 that on demand TV changed the form. And, and I think we're 2084 02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:27,390 just going to see an explosion of we're seeing and we are going 2085 02:05:27,390 --> 02:05:29,190 to continue to see an x that 2086 02:05:29,190 --> 02:05:33,540 is what you just heard there is someone who is used to pitching 2087 02:05:33,570 --> 02:05:38,610 investors. And he caught himself saying, we're going to say, no, 2088 02:05:38,610 --> 02:05:41,820 no, we're seeing it now. That is, am I wrong? 2089 02:05:43,260 --> 02:05:46,470 I don't say you're wrong. I don't know. It sounds like it's 2090 02:05:46,590 --> 02:05:49,620 it sounds like a pitch the whole thing sounds like a bull crap 2091 02:05:49,620 --> 02:05:50,100 pitch 2092 02:05:50,130 --> 02:05:53,940 to Goldman Sachs, for Goldman Sachs to invest in the my thing. 2093 02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:57,030 And I think we're just going to see an explosion of we're seeing 2094 02:05:57,030 --> 02:06:00,660 and we are going to continue to see an explosion of new kinds of 2095 02:06:00,660 --> 02:06:03,210 programming. I think it's going to continue to penetrate 2096 02:06:03,210 --> 02:06:08,370 mainstream behavior. And I think, I think in the future do 2097 02:06:08,370 --> 02:06:11,700 you listen to podcasts is going to be as as weird a question as 2098 02:06:11,700 --> 02:06:14,490 the watch a video. You know, they're gonna say, what do you 2099 02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:16,830 what kind of podcasts you listen to do? Would you like reality 2100 02:06:16,830 --> 02:06:19,080 podcasts? Do you like narrative podcasts? Like fiction podcasts? 2101 02:06:19,140 --> 02:06:22,110 I think that's by like comic book podcasts. That's 2102 02:06:22,110 --> 02:06:22,740 where we're headed. 2103 02:06:22,770 --> 02:06:26,640 You know, if he didn't, you could refer you know, for a guy 2104 02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:29,160 who was a pitchman. He did this, I think, I think I think could 2105 02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:31,350 have been eliminated. beddgelert stronger. 2106 02:06:31,530 --> 02:06:34,590 Now listen to the second guy make the classic mistake, which 2107 02:06:34,620 --> 02:06:37,110 I myself made 10 years ago, 2108 02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:40,200 just like fiction podcasts. I think that's that's where we're 2109 02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:41,550 headed. Yeah. And the 2110 02:06:41,550 --> 02:06:44,100 authority for people in their 20s. That's we're already there. 2111 02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:47,370 But I think for the older audience for over 50 It's 2112 02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:49,110 tougher to get people to adapt. And I don't know that 2113 02:06:49,110 --> 02:06:50,760 Oh, really, your age is prick. 2114 02:06:51,090 --> 02:06:52,050 That isn't ages 2115 02:06:52,080 --> 02:06:55,440 Bricsys over 50 can't figure out podcasting. 2116 02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:56,820 We're both over 50. 2117 02:06:57,300 --> 02:06:58,800 I'm reliably informed. 2118 02:06:59,070 --> 02:07:01,890 But I think for the older audience, for people say over 50 2119 02:07:01,980 --> 02:07:04,050 It's tougher to get people to adapt. And I don't know that 2120 02:07:04,050 --> 02:07:06,840 they really are going to necessarily shift over to on 2121 02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:11,100 demand. I mean, as Alex says, you know, this is, it's really, 2122 02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:14,070 it's really fun to be involved in this right now. Because you 2123 02:07:14,070 --> 02:07:17,160 have this feeling which I also experienced when we were first 2124 02:07:17,160 --> 02:07:21,120 developing internet journalism at Slate, that we're inventing 2125 02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:24,990 this new medium, there's bottomless possibility. And 2126 02:07:25,050 --> 02:07:28,620 there's all one word citement about it. And there are things 2127 02:07:28,620 --> 02:07:32,670 like I mean, around the drama, and storytelling shows that 2128 02:07:32,670 --> 02:07:36,030 aren't journalism. But, you know, that really went out in 2129 02:07:36,030 --> 02:07:41,670 America in the 1960s. Yeah. And it's coming back. And suddenly, 2130 02:07:41,670 --> 02:07:44,190 you know, you have a medium and you have storytellers, and you 2131 02:07:44,190 --> 02:07:47,070 have new kinds of story. But you have to retrain the audience. 2132 02:07:47,070 --> 02:07:50,760 But there's an audience that's ready to do this. And I just 2133 02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:53,190 have to say, it's so much fun. No, 2134 02:07:53,220 --> 02:07:58,290 I love this. You have to retrain the audience. That's my favorite 2135 02:07:58,290 --> 02:07:59,070 line, ever. 2136 02:07:59,940 --> 02:08:01,230 retrain the audit. Yes. 2137 02:08:01,230 --> 02:08:04,320 That's how you set up a successful business. You tell 2138 02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:07,680 your customers, they're doing it wrong. Although Apple did kind 2139 02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:11,820 of do that pretty well. But still, retrain your audience. 2140 02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:15,600 You know what this is? Because I was looking through the chat the 2141 02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:21,090 troll room as well. They have fan donations don't work. No, it 2142 02:08:21,090 --> 02:08:25,020 doesn't work. If you do Patreon, or set amounts or pitch in this 2143 02:08:25,020 --> 02:08:28,890 is stupid. It's stupid. If you have an outstanding product, let 2144 02:08:28,890 --> 02:08:32,670 people give you what they want, including nothing, including 2145 02:08:32,700 --> 02:08:35,100 artwork, or clips, or information or whatever they can 2146 02:08:35,100 --> 02:08:40,320 give. If you're sincere, it will work. It's that simple. It does 2147 02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:42,630 all the things you got to do around it. I mean, you gotta you 2148 02:08:42,630 --> 02:08:45,270 got to have a newsletter. There's all kinds of things you 2149 02:08:45,270 --> 02:08:45,930 have to do. 2150 02:08:46,620 --> 02:08:50,130 And I'm always reminded of Briony who every once in a while 2151 02:08:50,130 --> 02:08:54,090 I get cold, because I I gave her a lot of mentor and 2152 02:08:54,090 --> 02:08:58,590 congressional dish podcast, yes, to keep her on the right track. 2153 02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:01,560 And she ended up with Patreon anyway, but she's, she takes 2154 02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:04,380 checks, and she does all she actually uses every income 2155 02:09:04,380 --> 02:09:09,840 stream, she can figure out. And I'm telling you one thing or 2156 02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:12,660 another, she's doing certain things, I'm chained to telling 2157 02:09:12,660 --> 02:09:15,690 me I should probably do it this way, if I do it that way. And at 2158 02:09:15,690 --> 02:09:18,630 some point, she says to me, you know, I go to every one of these 2159 02:09:18,630 --> 02:09:22,800 podcasting conventions, and I don't make more money. And she 2160 02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:28,290 says, there's that, but then she says, she says, and not one 2161 02:09:28,290 --> 02:09:32,280 person ever says anything that you're telling me. 2162 02:09:33,390 --> 02:09:37,170 There's there's our business opportunity. Just we should do a 2163 02:09:37,170 --> 02:09:40,230 master class, a master class. 2164 02:09:41,010 --> 02:09:43,560 I see this man who could do a one day or two day One day 2165 02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:44,160 seminar. 2166 02:09:44,790 --> 02:09:46,680 Well, how much can we make with that? 2167 02:09:47,430 --> 02:09:50,400 Well, I used to take I was a big fan of these things when I was 2168 02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:53,280 doing a lot of direct marketing and a lot when I was younger, 2169 02:09:53,730 --> 02:09:59,010 and there was a lot of different I mean, the best class I took 2170 02:09:59,010 --> 02:10:01,290 was a three day seminar. New York City by the Direct 2171 02:10:01,290 --> 02:10:05,910 Marketing Association and this very famous guy pure passive and 2172 02:10:05,910 --> 02:10:09,840 who gave these seminars and what was their yes oh Pierre Opia and 2173 02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:14,220 then I did I did I started taking some other ones in there 2174 02:10:14,220 --> 02:10:17,940 I took a lot of the one days and this was a while ago and they 2175 02:10:17,940 --> 02:10:23,880 were $150 and they would get in on I don't know about 50 people 2176 02:10:24,330 --> 02:10:27,540 but that was then I think the price now for a one day and it 2177 02:10:27,540 --> 02:10:31,710 was like probably six hours of material. I think it's could be 2178 02:10:31,710 --> 02:10:36,330 as $400 $500 You probably get 1520 grand at a pop. 2179 02:10:37,140 --> 02:10:42,120 I just figured it out. Here's how we do it. We do value for 2180 02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:45,720 value for the conference for the master class. Yeah, give us 2181 02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:46,800 whatever you think is worth. 2182 02:10:46,950 --> 02:10:50,700 Well the problem with that is that here's I think it's a good 2183 02:10:50,700 --> 02:10:55,230 idea except for one thing you need an auditorium yes well not 2184 02:10:55,230 --> 02:10:57,480 doing the real estate scam where you bring a whole bunch of 2185 02:10:57,480 --> 02:11:00,450 people in then can then do value add to make your money 2186 02:11:01,830 --> 02:11:04,020 we could sell timeshare on the way out 2187 02:11:04,980 --> 02:11:07,950 to smaller venues you can probably maybe get you know 50 2188 02:11:08,010 --> 02:11:13,830 People 100 People at the most that's a lot you could do it I 2189 02:11:13,830 --> 02:11:17,610 think we could probably get a number of people to to take come 2190 02:11:17,610 --> 02:11:20,580 in and listen to our way of doing things which is totally 2191 02:11:20,580 --> 02:11:21,600 alien to what why 2192 02:11:21,599 --> 02:11:24,959 don't why don't we just do online course we don't have to 2193 02:11:24,959 --> 02:11:28,709 leave or go anywhere about this. We just don't do any. There you 2194 02:11:28,709 --> 02:11:29,069 go. 2195 02:11:30,510 --> 02:11:32,010 Move by God to know what 2196 02:11:32,460 --> 02:11:45,180 I imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah. Classic 2197 02:11:47,580 --> 02:11:50,220 well want to thank you people for helping us out here on show 2198 02:11:50,220 --> 02:11:56,220 1022 Bruce Schwalm in Harrisburg Pennsylvania Senate check in 2199 02:11:56,220 --> 02:12:01,230 front and $25 Sir Pete Baron of North Holland and freeze lon for 2200 02:12:01,230 --> 02:12:05,880 his lamb Baba. Yes. On it. 12345 2201 02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:08,610 He's the Baron of North Holland and freeze line. 2202 02:12:08,970 --> 02:12:11,430 Yeah, I have read his note because he's a baron. Is 2203 02:12:11,430 --> 02:12:14,130 payments to get back on track for my tuition fee payments for 2204 02:12:14,130 --> 02:12:17,670 the media deconstruction school have no agenda. Just what we're 2205 02:12:17,670 --> 02:12:24,000 talking about is exactly aka no K and O W agenda. Looking into 2206 02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:26,520 setting a budget scholarship at the school for students 2207 02:12:26,550 --> 02:12:28,290 a grant for scholarship. 2208 02:12:28,650 --> 02:12:34,920 Write a grant onward Ben Todman in Mount Riverview New South. 2209 02:12:36,870 --> 02:12:39,600 you clear your throat he actually he went on a little bit 2210 02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:43,440 he says I'm looking into setting up a grant for the scholarship 2211 02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:46,650 at the school that's our school for students not clear on the 2212 02:12:46,650 --> 02:12:50,970 details of perhaps some Dukes and barons are interested karma 2213 02:12:50,970 --> 02:12:55,410 has served me well. He's I can't believe you missed this clear 2214 02:12:55,410 --> 02:12:56,850 money making opportunity. 2215 02:12:57,390 --> 02:13:00,030 Yeah, just another one of them. Went out wow. 2216 02:13:00,030 --> 02:13:01,830 We want to do we won't do that one either. All right. 2217 02:13:02,010 --> 02:13:04,860 Let's hope for the best but Sir Pete's got he's got a lot of 2218 02:13:04,890 --> 02:13:08,430 gumption. That guy. That guy's that guy. He'll figure it out. 2219 02:13:08,460 --> 02:13:12,870 Oh, tell us what to do. John Roman a Ben Todman. I'm sorry. I 2220 02:13:13,710 --> 02:13:16,920 know I did Ben Thomas mount Riverview New South Wales. Okay, 2221 02:13:16,950 --> 02:13:21,570 good. 100 John Rob and a Parts Unknown Baron. Ladder Quinn 2222 02:13:21,600 --> 02:13:26,160 ladder Quinn in Houston, Texas. $100. Robert Wiltshire in Burke 2223 02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:33,120 Virginia. $100 is nice. Richard Altman 8365 dude named Mohammed 2224 02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:40,470 Ali. Oh 808 which is 100 named Holly a boob for your birthday. 2225 02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:44,610 John can't read this spreadsheet. Devorah read it and 2226 02:13:44,610 --> 02:13:48,930 I Adrian Ramos this by the way, I've changed my way of 2227 02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:50,880 presenting this spreadsheet. That's why you haven't heard so 2228 02:13:50,880 --> 02:13:51,900 many bitches and moans 2229 02:13:51,930 --> 02:13:54,510 it's been working quite well. I'm impressed. I thought it was 2230 02:13:54,510 --> 02:13:55,320 the B 12. 2231 02:13:56,130 --> 02:14:00,060 Yeah, no, no. Okay. Adrian Ramos. Seven. B 12. is what got 2232 02:14:00,060 --> 02:14:08,340 me lib Jo. Adrian Ramos. 7339. Sir got Nate and Sebastopol, 2233 02:14:08,340 --> 02:14:17,100 California. 69696959696 Okay, got it. I know what 6969 It was 2234 02:14:17,100 --> 02:14:21,210 a check. He always gives 6969 Got it. To Ryan White Knight of 2235 02:14:21,210 --> 02:14:23,790 the rainbow nation. Not Houston, Texas. 2236 02:14:24,059 --> 02:14:27,029 He's He's OTG not in Houston. 2237 02:14:29,220 --> 02:14:38,160 6669. Sir, start to slaughter, slaughter, barf and 2238 02:14:38,580 --> 02:14:41,730 amorphous slaughter barefaced slaughter. Martius. 2239 02:14:41,730 --> 02:14:47,310 Harvest. I guess I don't hope Rhode Island. Happy birthday, 2240 02:14:47,310 --> 02:14:53,520 Jenny boy. He says Sir Chris in the low Earth orbit by by the 2241 02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:59,640 way I was 6666. And so as Chris 66 out of 6666 today in Houston. 2242 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,060 Double birthday call up for JCD Matthew rent mound a Minnesotan, 2243 02:15:06,090 --> 02:15:12,510 Rennes Rennes brens In mound 6666 for the pager fund. I guess 2244 02:15:12,540 --> 02:15:16,230 you're getting one. It was got something funny to say in 6666 2245 02:15:16,230 --> 02:15:21,480 today, Devon and right in New Brunswick New Jersey. Another 2246 02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:24,210 happy birthday for though this always smokin hot girlfriend. 2247 02:15:24,240 --> 02:15:28,080 Yeah, I mean let me same birthday I do. Yep. Veg we have 2248 02:15:28,080 --> 02:15:32,520 a whole bunch of birthdays today. Brian Brian Baron sir 2249 02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:36,900 Baron Mark Tanner in Whittier, California 6666 or Gregory Warli 2250 02:15:36,900 --> 02:15:40,170 in evington, Virginia 6633 and now they have 2251 02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:42,990 Darren not the Baron Mark Tanner and have a note. 2252 02:15:44,220 --> 02:15:46,530 Now as he says that check in twice a month. Oh, yeah, it 2253 02:15:46,530 --> 02:15:49,440 looked highlighted as a note I'm sorry. Notes highlight is a 2254 02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:54,420 check. Okay. The check sometimes, I mean, if they do it 2255 02:15:54,420 --> 02:15:58,650 themselves, this is a shot to a bank. Okay, you got to count 2256 02:15:58,650 --> 02:16:01,410 somewhere they shouldn't this check every twice a month. Nice 2257 02:16:01,470 --> 02:16:05,970 that Greg Gill Brecht after Kevin Johnson Kevin Johnson 6633 2258 02:16:06,030 --> 02:16:09,630 And he says Happy Birthday to smokin hot wife Nikki she's on 2259 02:16:09,630 --> 02:16:12,360 the list. She's turning 33 2260 02:16:14,490 --> 02:16:18,810 Yeah, that reminds me I should read this note was got a note 2261 02:16:18,810 --> 02:16:24,960 for somebody donated 70 something and he says Ms. 2262 02:16:24,990 --> 02:16:32,040 skripal of the poisoning fame is 33 years old and her dad is 66 2263 02:16:35,130 --> 02:16:38,700 Say no more. We get it wink wink nudge nudge 2264 02:16:40,469 --> 02:16:52,619 fugu fu guna now it's full Gugu Bray sacri Gil Brecht Brekke 66 2265 02:16:52,979 --> 02:17:00,179 Robert verb Berber in Palmetto Florida, home of the insect 66 2266 02:17:00,779 --> 02:17:04,169 Nicolas Hannah 66 in Indianapolis is all 60 I'm going 2267 02:17:04,169 --> 02:17:06,959 to read all the 66 as these are all happy birthday John 2268 02:17:06,959 --> 02:17:12,149 donations 66. Richard Riley illumise California sir Danny 2269 02:17:12,179 --> 02:17:20,969 goad love the name goede 66 Brian bursts bearish or bird the 2270 02:17:20,969 --> 02:17:27,449 ERC Bierce Bierce sir Eric V M Baronet of the valley in Van 2271 02:17:27,449 --> 02:17:31,859 eyes, and he says Happy Birthday dude. Louis Pipkin in 2272 02:17:31,859 --> 02:17:38,159 Tallahassee, Florida, Jonathan Farish in Liberal Kansas and he 2273 02:17:38,159 --> 02:17:44,459 Lenin in Washington DC war Nicholas Robinson in Somerville, 2274 02:17:44,459 --> 02:17:49,499 Massachusetts Eric McKerrow wits, McCarran Lovitz, mcare 2275 02:17:49,499 --> 02:17:55,589 EVITTS, I'm thinking Monica Lansing St. Monica, Dame in 2276 02:17:55,589 --> 02:18:01,439 Drayton Valley, Alberta. Paul, plain old Paul in 66 is other 2277 02:18:01,439 --> 02:18:07,739 newer Naveed Khan unknown. John Hall, Cynthia Hickson, Daniel 2278 02:18:07,739 --> 02:18:13,859 Smith, Alex Vander Hengst. Matthew 2279 02:18:14,610 --> 02:18:18,420 of the stud is what that means. Who Yeah, 2280 02:18:18,660 --> 02:18:23,400 sir Matthew, Jana Zhu ski in Chicago. gave a shit Bazian in 2281 02:18:23,400 --> 02:18:28,590 San Francisco over here. Come to the meet up. Phil road. dokkan 2282 02:18:28,590 --> 02:18:35,550 Noctus Phil Rana Connexus Torben Peterson or Pettersen Brian, 2283 02:18:35,790 --> 02:18:41,670 Clem Zach, DAF Daphne Mitchell, sir dirtbag Dave Melissa Hodges, 2284 02:18:41,670 --> 02:18:42,930 who author Gore bits, 2285 02:18:42,960 --> 02:18:44,400 sir Rob obits, 2286 02:18:44,460 --> 02:18:54,180 Sir Arthur Rob Tyson. Brad Doherty Heil co send t ma, Pune 2287 02:18:54,180 --> 02:18:57,870 buco Sama, Santa Monica in Hamilton 2288 02:18:57,900 --> 02:18:59,280 in Houghton, Houghton 2289 02:18:59,820 --> 02:19:04,050 Mautner. Woods, the woods he lives in the woods. It's a he 2290 02:19:05,880 --> 02:19:12,510 Randy Holcomb Sir Don Baron of New Hampshire 66. Theodore Hart. 2291 02:19:12,870 --> 02:19:18,780 Austin Wilson Pedro a Thiago, it Thiago. I think. By the way 2292 02:19:18,780 --> 02:19:22,830 Austin's in Sammamish Mark Berg, AZ which is a ritzy little tiny 2293 02:19:22,830 --> 02:19:27,330 little white suburb. Mark Borg, AZ Brian Navarro James Blair, 2294 02:19:27,360 --> 02:19:34,470 Bart Burt 10s He lives in best Netherlands. Best Yeah, yeah. 2295 02:19:35,010 --> 02:19:41,010 Best. Dominate go bail in Calgary, Lance forest and 2296 02:19:41,010 --> 02:19:43,260 Newport NORTHCOM. Get a lot of well wishers. I want to thank 2297 02:19:43,260 --> 02:19:49,080 you all for doing their love man. Nicholas counts, and I'm 2298 02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:55,740 sure he does. Nikolas counts. Pa. Jan Leclerc is sir. Kuwait. 2299 02:19:55,860 --> 02:20:00,720 Boo. Boo Boo. Could you bring you in Luxembourg? That's 2300 02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:06,660 Luxenberg Yacob Honan are Jacob Christopher grand Covington 2301 02:20:06,930 --> 02:20:11,520 Louisiana Joseph green sir. Do suffer night of the forest 2302 02:20:11,520 --> 02:20:14,070 springs funk for kids and a time traveler. 2303 02:20:14,220 --> 02:20:18,720 That's our boy show. That's our boy here in Austin. Well, there 2304 02:20:18,720 --> 02:20:25,770 he is. Loves the show. Renee can neeg Clinique in Eindhoven. Why 2305 02:20:25,770 --> 02:20:30,810 do you pronounce that? kanessa? Can you get can this? Can you? 2306 02:20:34,440 --> 02:20:38,760 Alexander Mercari McCurry have oh, and that's the end of our 2307 02:20:38,760 --> 02:20:41,850 group, by the way, with Eindhoven Alexander and record 2308 02:20:41,850 --> 02:20:44,820 you have is 5555 and he says Happy Birthday. He doesn't care 2309 02:20:44,820 --> 02:20:47,730 about the about the exact amount. Sure Kevin would in 2310 02:20:47,730 --> 02:20:51,150 Manchester, New Hampshire. And he wants this 2311 02:20:51,210 --> 02:20:53,970 he has donation towards his daughter Kayla Woods Dame hood 2312 02:20:53,970 --> 02:20:56,940 and add her to the birthday lists. Yes, she's on there. 2313 02:20:57,480 --> 02:21:02,190 Steven Smith, Sir Tom dari in DeForest, Wisconsin. Those are 2314 02:21:02,190 --> 02:21:05,820 5510 Double nickels on the dime Michael gates 50 to 80 and the 2315 02:21:05,820 --> 02:21:09,030 following people are $50 donors name and location if available. 2316 02:21:09,030 --> 02:21:12,720 Eric Olson not available, Scott e night and lost wages Nevada 2317 02:21:12,720 --> 02:21:17,760 Matthew Jenna zoo ski once again in Chicago. Robert claesson in 2318 02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:24,450 London, Paul van Cordilla Cordyline Cardinal are in 2319 02:21:28,140 --> 02:21:28,980 a mountain, 2320 02:21:29,430 --> 02:21:36,150 a mountain Bradley leaden and Todd Moore is cracking myself 2321 02:21:36,150 --> 02:21:39,600 up, you know, in Virginia. But do you even McConnell? Do you 2322 02:21:39,600 --> 02:21:43,080 notice how many Dutch people are in the list today because the 2323 02:21:43,080 --> 02:21:44,550 Dutch care about birthdays 2324 02:21:44,580 --> 02:21:47,430 they do. They're all sitting in a chair as we speak in a 2325 02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:51,420 circle listening to the show. Drinking coffee. Hey, there it 2326 02:21:51,420 --> 02:21:51,780 is. 2327 02:21:54,420 --> 02:21:58,620 Steve McConnell in Cortland, Cortland Ohio sir Brett Farrell 2328 02:21:58,620 --> 02:22:00,930 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. We believe this where it's from and 2329 02:22:00,930 --> 02:22:02,820 last but not least psoralen been over here in Oakland, 2330 02:22:02,820 --> 02:22:05,700 California. Hey, Alan. And I want to thank all these folks 2331 02:22:05,700 --> 02:22:08,850 for contributing to this show. 1022 and wishing me a happy 2332 02:22:08,850 --> 02:22:11,010 birthday. Yeah, that was really nice. I mean, the show over the 2333 02:22:11,010 --> 02:22:11,640 top Yeah, 2334 02:22:11,640 --> 02:22:14,520 I love it when people love you. It gives me great pleasure 2335 02:22:15,000 --> 02:22:17,220 because that means that they that there are more people who 2336 02:22:17,220 --> 02:22:18,540 see me the way I see you. 2337 02:22:19,050 --> 02:22:24,150 Yeah. Thank you have a lot of people came in with it with my 2338 02:22:24,150 --> 02:22:28,860 date for 518 Oh, and there's a slew of them too. And we don't 2339 02:22:28,890 --> 02:22:32,340 don't get mentioned. But we do have a lot of happy birthday. 2340 02:22:32,910 --> 02:22:36,300 Wishes. Very, very, very sweet. Thank you all very much. And 2341 02:22:36,570 --> 02:22:39,060 remembering our value for value model. The deconstruction 2342 02:22:39,060 --> 02:22:42,750 continues with back on Sunday with another episode as we do 2343 02:22:42,750 --> 02:22:45,300 twice a week here on the no agenda show. Remember us at VO 2344 02:22:45,300 --> 02:22:49,710 red.org/and. Everybody can use some jobs, karma 2345 02:22:49,740 --> 02:22:57,540 jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got 2346 02:22:57,750 --> 02:23:02,520 karma. And before we go on to our birthdays, I do have a 2347 02:23:02,640 --> 02:23:06,750 douchebag call out from Dame Elise Garling who has surfaced 2348 02:23:06,750 --> 02:23:10,710 once again. Our salmon Fisher bass. 2349 02:23:11,369 --> 02:23:14,399 She does she do the live in Allah. 2350 02:23:15,570 --> 02:23:18,930 Limoncello. Yes, she has contacted our girl. Did you did 2351 02:23:18,930 --> 02:23:19,980 you get an email from her? 2352 02:23:20,699 --> 02:23:21,659 Yep, same email. 2353 02:23:21,780 --> 02:23:24,600 Okay. All right. Good. So you want our address so that she can 2354 02:23:24,600 --> 02:23:27,930 send off some new limoncello and it's good we'll she's about to 2355 02:23:27,930 --> 02:23:30,900 get back on the boat. She got a couple months. She goes Dutch to 2356 02:23:30,900 --> 02:23:39,180 do spray cola. Oh, yeah. Pebble Mine. The Right. Yeah. How long 2357 02:23:39,180 --> 02:23:41,280 is she out? She's a couple months she'll be gone. 2358 02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:43,470 I have no idea. Okay, here we 2359 02:23:43,470 --> 02:23:55,530 go. My good podcast buddy John C. Dvorak. Can we also 2360 02:23:55,530 --> 02:23:58,890 congratulate Christopher Juuso actually, Christopher graduates 2361 02:23:58,890 --> 02:24:02,850 his brother Jack, he turns 30 Today, Devin and righteous Happy 2362 02:24:02,850 --> 02:24:06,240 Birthday to a smokin hot girlfriend Tommy Lynn. She's a 2363 02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:09,390 fifth baby as well. Kevin Johnson to his smokin hot wife 2364 02:24:09,390 --> 02:24:13,680 Nikki. She turns 33 Is John turned 66 Young clerics are 2365 02:24:13,680 --> 02:24:17,430 quick to move 37 On the April tense Sir Kevin Woods is Happy 2366 02:24:17,430 --> 02:24:19,890 Birthday to his daughter Kayla in advance. We'll be celebrating 2367 02:24:19,890 --> 02:24:23,400 on the 10th as well. Eric Olson celebrated yesterday and served 2368 02:24:23,400 --> 02:24:26,010 on Baron of New Hampshire we'll be celebrating his birthday on 2369 02:24:26,010 --> 02:24:28,320 the seventh one year younger than you Happy Birthday 2370 02:24:28,320 --> 02:24:31,080 everybody from your buddies here at the best podcast in the 2371 02:24:31,080 --> 02:24:37,410 universe. Nice to see everyone. 2372 02:24:37,860 --> 02:24:40,830 So Rakesh show I want to remind people they didn't get in for my 2373 02:24:40,830 --> 02:24:43,290 birthday thing. Sunday will still work. 2374 02:24:44,610 --> 02:24:50,370 Okay, that's that's very kind. So once someone sent me a 2375 02:24:50,370 --> 02:24:54,480 rundown, which I thought was quite cute, of the historical 2376 02:24:54,480 --> 02:24:59,370 census questions, since this has been such a big deal with that, 2377 02:24:59,370 --> 02:25:03,510 yeah. I'm here I wanted so things that are no longer on the 2378 02:25:03,510 --> 02:25:09,570 Census. This is true. In 1820, a few of the questions were how 2379 02:25:09,570 --> 02:25:12,810 many other free persons except Indians are in your household? 2380 02:25:12,900 --> 02:25:17,580 How many slaves? How many persons not naturalized? You see 2381 02:25:17,580 --> 02:25:21,210 where this is going? Yeah, Cory course it gets better from here 2382 02:25:22,290 --> 02:25:28,080 in 1830 How many deaf and dumb whites under age 14 over 14 and 2383 02:25:28,080 --> 02:25:33,060 under 25? Or over 25? How many blind whites? How many deaf and 2384 02:25:33,060 --> 02:25:37,980 dumb slaves and free blacks under age 14 over 1425 and 25? 2385 02:25:38,010 --> 02:25:42,180 How many blind slaves and free blacks how many white foreigners 2386 02:25:42,180 --> 02:25:46,350 not naturalized? And this has been pretty consistent thing. 2387 02:25:47,550 --> 02:25:53,370 1840 How many idiotic or insane whites? They could put back on 2388 02:25:53,790 --> 02:26:00,180 this. And they also to be fair, they weren't racist? How many 2389 02:26:00,180 --> 02:26:05,010 idiotic or insane slaves and free blacks? And then can the 2390 02:26:05,010 --> 02:26:08,580 person read and write? Is the person deaf? Dumb, blind, 2391 02:26:08,580 --> 02:26:14,520 insane, idiotic, a popper or a convict? Wow, a popper I like 2392 02:26:14,520 --> 02:26:15,210 popper. 2393 02:26:15,480 --> 02:26:16,620 Popper is a good word. 2394 02:26:17,010 --> 02:26:20,700 And that's the same man same question. Then we move to 1870 2395 02:26:21,180 --> 02:26:24,090 whether or not parents or a foreign birth can the person 2396 02:26:24,090 --> 02:26:27,120 read and write is the person deaf, dumb, blind, insane or 2397 02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:31,380 idiotic? That seems to be a kind of a trend. Whether or not a 2398 02:26:31,380 --> 02:26:34,860 person was sick or temporarily disable this is 1880 and the 2399 02:26:34,860 --> 02:26:38,220 nature of the illness kind of invasive. And then whether the 2400 02:26:38,220 --> 02:26:41,670 person was blind, deaf, dumb, idiotic, insane, maimed cripple, 2401 02:26:41,670 --> 02:26:46,740 bedridden or permanently disabled. What do they need to 2402 02:26:46,740 --> 02:26:50,220 know all that for? The demographics 1890 2403 02:26:50,220 --> 02:26:54,120 psychographics. John, whether suffering from acute or chronic 2404 02:26:54,120 --> 02:26:56,850 disease with the name of disease and length of time afflicted 2405 02:26:56,850 --> 02:27:00,270 whether defective in mind sight hearing or speech or where 2406 02:27:00,270 --> 02:27:04,110 they're crippled, maimed or deformed and whether prisoner 2407 02:27:04,110 --> 02:27:08,010 convict homeless child or popper and then finally I have 1900 2408 02:27:09,660 --> 02:27:12,480 places of birth place of birth the father place of birth of 2409 02:27:12,480 --> 02:27:15,270 mother attended school can read can write can speak English. 2410 02:27:16,770 --> 02:27:18,180 Changed rather dramatically? 2411 02:27:18,840 --> 02:27:20,100 1900 2412 02:27:21,150 --> 02:27:24,510 Roosevelt, so he must have changed it. 2413 02:27:25,140 --> 02:27:29,100 Not sure. Just know that the look, there's some something 2414 02:27:29,100 --> 02:27:33,990 obviously changed. That's kind of interesting. 2415 02:27:35,640 --> 02:27:40,050 All right. Well, we got while we're on the LGBT topic, 2416 02:27:40,410 --> 02:27:46,650 something new happening in Columbus, Ohio at now. All 2417 02:27:46,650 --> 02:27:51,150 people are equal. Men, women, straight gay, lesbian, or I 2418 02:27:51,150 --> 02:27:57,120 should say lesbian, gay. I can't even LGBTQ Q AP. We're all 2419 02:27:57,120 --> 02:28:00,750 equal. And love is love. relationships, relationships, 2420 02:28:00,750 --> 02:28:01,290 correct? 2421 02:28:02,400 --> 02:28:07,200 If you say so. No, this is what I've been taught. Okay. This is 2422 02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:10,770 not what you've been taught by Gen Z and the millennials. That 2423 02:28:10,770 --> 02:28:13,800 everybody's the same. Yeah. And all relationships are the same. 2424 02:28:13,800 --> 02:28:16,170 And everyone's the same. It's all equal. I love and I 2425 02:28:16,170 --> 02:28:19,410 believe and I don't think so. Love is love. Love to say love 2426 02:28:19,410 --> 02:28:22,020 is love. Love is my truth and it's getting to do it. There's 2427 02:28:22,020 --> 02:28:25,290 love. There is love got to do with it. 2428 02:28:25,320 --> 02:28:29,400 There you go. There's a new program elm aimed at helping L 2429 02:28:29,400 --> 02:28:34,830 the LGBT community in Columbus, Ohio. It turns out domestic 2430 02:28:34,830 --> 02:28:38,190 violence is quite different. They are by their own admission, 2431 02:28:38,220 --> 02:28:39,000 a new program 2432 02:28:39,030 --> 02:28:42,540 aimed to stop domestic violence in a specific community. 2433 02:28:42,780 --> 02:28:45,720 Franklin County's municipal court now has a program for the 2434 02:28:45,750 --> 02:28:50,460 LGBTQ community 20 V. Shelby Croft talk to an offender and 2435 02:28:50,460 --> 02:28:51,780 the judges behind it. 2436 02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:56,580 I just have a problem with alcohol and I didn't want to 2437 02:28:56,580 --> 02:29:02,370 face it. I just get out of my mind. I go crazy. And I just get 2438 02:29:02,370 --> 02:29:03,720 uncontrollable. The lack 2439 02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:06,660 of control leads to violence for this man who doesn't want his 2440 02:29:06,660 --> 02:29:10,320 face shown violence toward his husband. He's been charged 2441 02:29:10,350 --> 02:29:11,430 several times 2442 02:29:11,460 --> 02:29:15,390 within a year. I feel I had for 2443 02:29:15,420 --> 02:29:18,750 all domestic violence one more and he's headed to prison. 2444 02:29:19,170 --> 02:29:22,560 That's what's over my head right now. And that's not something to 2445 02:29:22,560 --> 02:29:23,310 play around with. 2446 02:29:23,340 --> 02:29:26,130 So this offender got serious after his last charge in his 2447 02:29:26,130 --> 02:29:28,680 following through with his probation, counseling for 2448 02:29:28,680 --> 02:29:31,860 alcohol and counseling for the domestic violence. The first 2449 02:29:31,860 --> 02:29:34,140 person in a new court design program, 2450 02:29:34,140 --> 02:29:37,740 statistically it's been found that jail does not decrease 2451 02:29:37,740 --> 02:29:39,660 recidivism and increases it. 2452 02:29:39,689 --> 02:29:42,059 I don't want to have to put people in jail. I know that 2453 02:29:42,059 --> 02:29:45,719 putting someone in jail isn't helping them with any underlying 2454 02:29:45,719 --> 02:29:46,139 issues 2455 02:29:46,140 --> 02:29:48,780 judges, James so gradient, Eileen Paley, have worked for 2456 02:29:48,780 --> 02:29:51,990 almost three years with several agencies to develop a domestic 2457 02:29:51,990 --> 02:29:56,040 violence program geared entirely toward LGBTQ offenders. I 2458 02:29:56,039 --> 02:29:59,429 was stunned when I found out that there was no this done this 2459 02:29:59,609 --> 02:30:01,079 wasn't anywhere else in the country. 2460 02:30:01,110 --> 02:30:03,870 I think it's the secret that people don't like to talk about. 2461 02:30:03,870 --> 02:30:06,510 Myles stickle is the Director of Behavioral Health for equity 2462 02:30:06,510 --> 02:30:09,360 toss, he was tasked with coming up with this program that has 2463 02:30:09,360 --> 02:30:13,080 never existed. Explaining the dynamic of same gender couples 2464 02:30:13,080 --> 02:30:15,090 is much different than heterosexual. So 2465 02:30:15,120 --> 02:30:19,710 mostly the males heading the females and this one this case, 2466 02:30:19,710 --> 02:30:21,300 it's you have to males 2467 02:30:21,330 --> 02:30:24,870 there's other things that create power and control differences in 2468 02:30:24,870 --> 02:30:26,100 our relationships smile 2469 02:30:26,100 --> 02:30:28,830 started with an evidence based model for treatment than 2470 02:30:28,830 --> 02:30:32,130 incorporated needs specific to the LGBTQ community, 2471 02:30:32,160 --> 02:30:36,540 everyone will first go into an eight week psycho educational 2472 02:30:36,570 --> 02:30:40,140 group, where we'll lay out the foundation of like what is 2473 02:30:40,140 --> 02:30:43,680 violence in a relationship, how to have healthy effective 2474 02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:46,560 relationships, thought disorders that lead to violence 2475 02:30:46,590 --> 02:30:49,800 that will be followed by 32 weeks of group therapy tailored 2476 02:30:49,800 --> 02:30:51,150 to specific problems. 2477 02:30:51,180 --> 02:30:54,210 That's ultimately all I want is just people to get help and not 2478 02:30:54,210 --> 02:30:55,170 have to come back and see me, 2479 02:30:55,200 --> 02:30:57,360 I hope I can make everyone proud 2480 02:30:57,420 --> 02:31:01,110 in downtown Columbus, Shelby Croft and TV news, the judges 2481 02:31:01,110 --> 02:31:04,380 hope the need for this program will be recognized and modeled 2482 02:31:04,380 --> 02:31:07,050 nationally, they also hope it paves the way for more 2483 02:31:07,050 --> 02:31:09,330 culturally specific programs. 2484 02:31:10,800 --> 02:31:12,060 This doesn't sound right. 2485 02:31:12,660 --> 02:31:14,220 culturally specific 2486 02:31:14,220 --> 02:31:18,480 programs. Exactly. Because there's kicker Yeah. And so 2487 02:31:19,109 --> 02:31:22,439 it's normal for black men to beat up their women or Muslims. 2488 02:31:22,919 --> 02:31:25,529 Oh, now Yeah. Muslims. Yeah, yeah. Muslims, that's what 2489 02:31:25,529 --> 02:31:28,859 they're supposed to do. Nor do they really do that when they 2490 02:31:28,859 --> 02:31:29,549 marry a muslim. 2491 02:31:30,539 --> 02:31:33,299 culturally specific so different rules. That's what that's what 2492 02:31:33,299 --> 02:31:35,939 I'm here and different rules. Yeah, there's no different rules 2493 02:31:35,939 --> 02:31:39,299 is nonsense. And the same with the universities. George 2494 02:31:39,299 --> 02:31:43,649 Washington University had a I think it's actually going on now 2495 02:31:43,649 --> 02:31:47,909 diversity workshop. And they have a number of programs and 2496 02:31:47,939 --> 02:31:52,919 the one for today is titled Christian privilege, but are 2497 02:31:52,919 --> 02:31:55,769 found by our founding fathers were all Christian. Right. 2498 02:31:55,799 --> 02:32:00,689 That's the subtitle of the of the workshop. Because Christian 2499 02:32:00,689 --> 02:32:05,609 Christian privilege is a thing now. It wasn't enough going 2500 02:32:05,609 --> 02:32:09,629 after white old dudes who are straight and cisgendered. 2501 02:32:09,629 --> 02:32:12,059 Actually, they have more more workshops. 2502 02:32:12,870 --> 02:32:15,690 Let's see they have had Jose teach in these workshops. 2503 02:32:16,440 --> 02:32:19,380 Well, that you have to recognize your privilege heterosexual 2504 02:32:19,380 --> 02:32:23,340 privilege. Cisgender. Privilege abled borrows sexual privilege. 2505 02:32:23,340 --> 02:32:30,570 So yes, you are privileged. You are privileged. Able bodied 2506 02:32:30,570 --> 02:32:32,430 privilege socio economic 2507 02:32:32,430 --> 02:32:37,740 privilege burden, unconscious bias heterosexual burden, The 2508 02:32:37,740 --> 02:32:42,150 White Man's Burden. You've heard of that? Yes. Well, I think we 2509 02:32:42,150 --> 02:32:43,110 should reintroduce it. 2510 02:32:44,070 --> 02:32:49,710 Good luck with that. Start making your signs for the March 2511 02:32:53,490 --> 02:32:56,910 it's pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty bad. 2512 02:33:00,450 --> 02:33:01,530 That's happy note. 2513 02:33:01,560 --> 02:33:04,260 I got a little deconstruction for you. Not that we didn't 2514 02:33:04,260 --> 02:33:08,070 really know this. But I think it's fun to do. The whole world 2515 02:33:08,070 --> 02:33:17,430 saw. saw the Sinclair broadcast group propagandizing. The 2516 02:33:17,430 --> 02:33:20,640 message everyone had to say the same thing the same? Yeah, we 2517 02:33:20,640 --> 02:33:26,400 did a bid on it. Yeah. And so I pulled one of Conan O'Brien's 2518 02:33:27,090 --> 02:33:33,750 examples of this from 2006 2014 2015. Yeah, he used to 2519 02:33:33,750 --> 02:33:36,720 do this constantly. I used to do this a lot. Yeah, he would. He 2520 02:33:36,720 --> 02:33:38,220 would get the same message. 2521 02:33:38,220 --> 02:33:41,010 He had some specialists that that worked in his in his comedy 2522 02:33:41,010 --> 02:33:43,740 writing team that could do this. That's what it came. Yes. 2523 02:33:43,890 --> 02:33:47,940 So just so you know. This is not new. And I can I can tell a lot 2524 02:33:47,940 --> 02:33:50,670 of people who are tweeting and are emailing. They're shocked. 2525 02:33:50,700 --> 02:33:54,030 Of course we were so jaded. I have to be honest. After doing 2526 02:33:54,030 --> 02:33:57,570 this show for a decade, that we forget to remind people this has 2527 02:33:57,570 --> 02:34:01,350 been going on for a long time. In fact, if the if the M five M 2528 02:34:01,500 --> 02:34:06,120 does anything, they don't go back even to Michael Moore when 2529 02:34:06,120 --> 02:34:09,450 he was all for you know, investigating SSRIs this is all 2530 02:34:09,450 --> 02:34:14,250 the stuff that the gems, this is what we dig up. So it's not even 2531 02:34:14,250 --> 02:34:16,560 digging up. I mean, it just had to go back into my archive and 2532 02:34:16,560 --> 02:34:17,610 find it here is 2533 02:34:17,640 --> 02:34:20,520 people think the big news stories today are the snowstorm 2534 02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:23,700 that's hitting the Midwest or the looming federal budget cuts. 2535 02:34:24,000 --> 02:34:28,980 But judging by local news is apparently an even bigger story. 2536 02:34:29,070 --> 02:34:30,990 That sweeping the nation right now. Check it out. 2537 02:34:32,040 --> 02:34:34,260 Well, if you filled up your gas tank lately, then you don't need 2538 02:34:34,260 --> 02:34:37,050 us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You 2539 02:34:37,050 --> 02:34:40,230 don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. 2540 02:34:40,230 --> 02:34:41,130 You don't need us to 2541 02:34:41,130 --> 02:34:44,160 tell you the gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need us 2542 02:34:44,160 --> 02:34:46,890 to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't need 2543 02:34:46,920 --> 02:34:50,280 us to tell you that gas prices are back on the rise. You don't 2544 02:34:50,280 --> 02:34:53,400 have to tell you that gas prices are back on the right you don't 2545 02:34:53,400 --> 02:34:58,200 need us to tell you back on the road. You don't need 2546 02:34:58,200 --> 02:35:00,120 us to tell you that gas prices are back on All 2547 02:35:00,120 --> 02:35:03,150 right, you don't need us to tell you gas prices are back on the 2548 02:35:03,150 --> 02:35:03,690 rise, or 2549 02:35:03,690 --> 02:35:06,840 you don't need us to tell you that gas prices are back on the 2550 02:35:06,840 --> 02:35:09,810 rise. And you don't need us to tell you that gas prices are 2551 02:35:09,810 --> 02:35:10,620 back on the rock, 2552 02:35:10,680 --> 02:35:13,680 you don't need us to tell you gas prices are back on the rock, 2553 02:35:13,710 --> 02:35:16,800 or you don't need us to tell you that. That's why we are back on 2554 02:35:16,800 --> 02:35:19,650 the line. So you don't need us to tell you gas prices are on 2555 02:35:19,650 --> 02:35:20,820 the rise. I know. 2556 02:35:22,710 --> 02:35:26,070 Now, where this comes from just a point of reference, and this 2557 02:35:26,070 --> 02:35:30,150 is in the show notes, find that at na show notes.com Is this is 2558 02:35:30,180 --> 02:35:32,970 one of the many sources but this is one of the big ones for these 2559 02:35:32,970 --> 02:35:38,400 local stations is something called CNN news source. Then you 2560 02:35:38,400 --> 02:35:42,690 can you can see there's all kinds of screenshots I guess, if 2561 02:35:42,690 --> 02:35:45,780 you register and if you pay for it, then you can actually see 2562 02:35:45,780 --> 02:35:48,720 the whole interface and they have all these packages. They 2563 02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:51,270 have the intro text everything's written it's it can actually 2564 02:35:51,270 --> 02:35:55,140 flow straight from this app into your teleprompter. This is how 2565 02:35:55,140 --> 02:35:58,140 it really happens. This is and it's CNN mind you it's a big 2566 02:35:58,170 --> 02:36:00,930 it's a much bigger part of the business than people realize. 2567 02:36:02,250 --> 02:36:06,480 And it leads me to believe that one of these outfits wrote the 2568 02:36:06,480 --> 02:36:12,660 response talking points to the infamous Sinclair video. As 2569 02:36:12,660 --> 02:36:15,900 witnessed in this montage is which we all just stay in 2570 02:36:15,900 --> 02:36:19,800 depending on what our description is of them. Concern 2571 02:36:19,800 --> 02:36:24,930 I think there's a concern that concerns resurface Is that is 2572 02:36:24,930 --> 02:36:28,680 that concerning to you? Isn't that concerning? Nicole? I share 2573 02:36:28,680 --> 02:36:30,630 that concern greatly mayor should we 2574 02:36:30,630 --> 02:36:33,390 be concerned should be a little bit concerning 2575 02:36:33,390 --> 02:36:35,130 particularly when it echoes 2576 02:36:35,760 --> 02:36:39,120 it's not journalism, its propaganda to run a propaganda 2577 02:36:39,120 --> 02:36:41,790 clip. This isn't journal journalism. This is propaganda 2578 02:36:41,790 --> 02:36:43,620 was shoving propaganda down 2579 02:36:43,980 --> 02:36:47,760 local anchors, throat scripted propaganda and accusations 2580 02:36:47,820 --> 02:36:48,960 propaganda 2581 02:36:49,620 --> 02:36:54,630 has to stop. That's a good one. 2582 02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:59,760 Is it is propaganda. Is it metal propaganda? Or are we actually 2583 02:36:59,760 --> 02:37:01,680 the propaganda? That's the question you 2584 02:37:01,680 --> 02:37:07,860 need to think is ludicrous. I was watching, I was watching 2585 02:37:07,860 --> 02:37:12,780 NBC. Dude had Martin Luther King's and 50th anniversary of 2586 02:37:12,810 --> 02:37:16,560 getting gunned down at this motel party been turned into a 2587 02:37:16,560 --> 02:37:20,130 museum. So all the anchors, that all the networks, everyone was 2588 02:37:20,130 --> 02:37:22,350 there, everyone was there. They're all there. But the 2589 02:37:22,830 --> 02:37:25,410 problem was they did that there's people in the 2590 02:37:25,410 --> 02:37:29,730 background. And in the worst case, example is NBC. So you 2591 02:37:29,730 --> 02:37:33,300 have Lester Holt with his he's got a headset on. He's got a 2592 02:37:33,300 --> 02:37:36,090 country man he's wearing and he's standing there trying to 2593 02:37:36,420 --> 02:37:39,360 trying to do his report. But there's all this noise and 2594 02:37:39,360 --> 02:37:43,680 racket because they set up a shop behind him with a speaker. 2595 02:37:45,540 --> 02:37:50,910 And they're making a bunch of noise. I have two examples. Like 2596 02:37:50,910 --> 02:37:52,920 that by the end of his broadcast, by the way, it's 2597 02:37:52,920 --> 02:37:56,250 quite annoying, but I have the two background mess clips, but 2598 02:37:56,250 --> 02:37:59,340 PLAY CLIP one and you hear what I'm talking about. blaster. 2599 02:38:00,450 --> 02:38:03,390 Right Miguel Elmiger tonight. Thank you now to another big 2600 02:38:03,390 --> 02:38:06,540 story. We're following new details about the woman who went 2601 02:38:06,540 --> 02:38:09,540 on a shooting rampage at YouTube's headquarters. 2602 02:38:09,810 --> 02:38:13,620 Investigators now say she was a YouTube user who harbored a 2603 02:38:13,620 --> 02:38:16,830 grudge against the company. And tonight new questions about 2604 02:38:16,830 --> 02:38:20,430 possible missed warnings with police revealing they encounter 2605 02:38:20,430 --> 02:38:21,780 the shooter just out 2606 02:38:22,800 --> 02:38:23,760 as pretty annoying. 2607 02:38:23,880 --> 02:38:27,300 So you heard this I've gone so then apparently I think it was 2608 02:38:27,300 --> 02:38:33,210 Maxine Waters. She was what it sounds like. Somebody screeching 2609 02:38:33,210 --> 02:38:36,060 in the background. This is later in the show. This is 10 seconds 2610 02:38:36,060 --> 02:38:39,180 and you can hear somebody Street in the background with this 2611 02:38:39,180 --> 02:38:41,640 guy's trying to read the news, the White House 2612 02:38:42,510 --> 02:38:46,380 China is firing back at a potentially escalating trade war 2613 02:38:46,380 --> 02:38:49,110 with the White House and caught in the middle of could be a lot 2614 02:38:49,110 --> 02:38:50,490 of American businesses 2615 02:38:51,240 --> 02:38:54,120 have it's hard to let me just let me just rotate zoom the 2616 02:38:54,120 --> 02:38:55,680 White House, rotate 2617 02:38:55,710 --> 02:38:59,850 China enhance potentially escalating trade war with the 2618 02:38:59,850 --> 02:39:00,810 White House? Yes, 2619 02:39:00,810 --> 02:39:03,690 yes, sir. There. We got it through forensics. 2620 02:39:03,869 --> 02:39:07,109 Anyway, I thought this was so amateurish to have this it was 2621 02:39:07,109 --> 02:39:12,029 distracting to the viewer. Yeah, as bad was also on ABC, CBS. I 2622 02:39:12,029 --> 02:39:16,169 didn't read it check that news feed but you know, that we gotta 2623 02:39:16,169 --> 02:39:17,609 get a better set up or something. We 2624 02:39:17,610 --> 02:39:20,340 wouldn't stand for that at all. Well, 2625 02:39:20,370 --> 02:39:23,670 I didn't stand for it. I made a couple of clips. You did some 2626 02:39:23,670 --> 02:39:31,800 work on it. Hello, yeah. Let me see. What else did we have? That 2627 02:39:31,800 --> 02:39:35,250 was important. Oh, did you see the Google AI and search chief 2628 02:39:35,250 --> 02:39:35,940 step down? 2629 02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:38,970 Why did he What was the reason? 2630 02:39:39,690 --> 02:39:43,500 I don't think a reason was given. Google doesn't have to 2631 02:39:43,500 --> 02:39:46,410 give any reasons they can do whatever they want. Yeah, they 2632 02:39:46,410 --> 02:39:53,880 don't care. Let me see if it says is leaving his post. Now, I 2633 02:39:53,880 --> 02:39:59,280 think he's the guy from Google Brain is now taking over. James 2634 02:39:59,280 --> 02:40:00,900 Dean Do you know I'm Jeff Dean. 2635 02:40:01,110 --> 02:40:02,850 I don't know anybody at Google anymore. 2636 02:40:03,210 --> 02:40:04,860 Did you ever did you know anybody? 2637 02:40:05,130 --> 02:40:06,420 And by the way, Sergey, 2638 02:40:06,450 --> 02:40:10,440 what? You know, why can't we investigate? Eric Schmidt, why 2639 02:40:10,440 --> 02:40:14,310 can't we investigate Sergey Brin for, you know, collusion? 2640 02:40:14,790 --> 02:40:20,010 Delusion Russians? Yeah. I mean, they're Russians. It's just a 2641 02:40:20,010 --> 02:40:20,520 thought. 2642 02:40:21,090 --> 02:40:25,800 Okay, got two clips I want to play before we're done. One is 2643 02:40:25,800 --> 02:40:28,770 just a clip I want to get rid of has been sitting on been going 2644 02:40:28,770 --> 02:40:33,540 on this is Chelsea Manning, little known story, when Chelsea 2645 02:40:33,540 --> 02:40:37,230 Manning released all those documents, people don't realize 2646 02:40:37,230 --> 02:40:39,780 that Wiki Leaks was not the place you wanted to go with 2647 02:40:39,780 --> 02:40:42,150 them. And this is a clip that kind of explains it. Interesting 2648 02:40:42,150 --> 02:40:45,750 how the real news media who hate WikiLeaks, they wouldn't even 2649 02:40:45,750 --> 02:40:47,460 take this these documents 2650 02:40:47,490 --> 02:40:52,050 that said, I, you know, This couldn't have happened any other 2651 02:40:52,050 --> 02:40:55,500 way it happened because of who I am. And the values that I have, 2652 02:40:55,830 --> 02:40:59,790 and the time that I had, and the means the technology that was 2653 02:40:59,790 --> 02:41:03,300 available. And also it almost didn't happen. You know, I tried 2654 02:41:03,300 --> 02:41:07,170 to I tried to reach out through through conventional 2655 02:41:07,170 --> 02:41:12,870 journalists, if you will, and, you know, the technical 2656 02:41:12,870 --> 02:41:17,520 complexities, they just couldn't work around. Well wait for one 2657 02:41:17,520 --> 02:41:20,610 second, could you explain exactly what you did for people 2658 02:41:20,610 --> 02:41:23,850 aren't familiar with your course, when you were in Iraq? 2659 02:41:23,850 --> 02:41:26,880 You got a hold of these documents? You saw what you 2660 02:41:26,880 --> 02:41:29,880 described as the horror documented and the government's 2661 02:41:29,880 --> 02:41:32,880 own pages and wanting to get it out? Coming back to the United 2662 02:41:32,880 --> 02:41:37,080 States? It wasn't WikiLeaks, you went to first. Right? Of course 2663 02:41:37,080 --> 02:41:42,210 not. I mean, of course not. They weren't a thing. Yeah. There 2664 02:41:42,210 --> 02:41:52,440 weren't a name. And I mean, like I, I ran out of time. I didn't 2665 02:41:52,440 --> 02:41:55,500 have a whole lot of time. I had about five days and three of 2666 02:41:55,500 --> 02:41:57,870 those days were taken up by a snowstorm for you were going 2667 02:41:57,870 --> 02:42:01,620 back to Iraq. Correct. So you turned to the New York Times, 2668 02:42:01,830 --> 02:42:04,050 you tried to reach I reached out to the Washington Post first, 2669 02:42:04,080 --> 02:42:07,830 and they didn't want the documents or they did. I mean, 2670 02:42:08,580 --> 02:42:13,680 it's technology, technology is the problem. securedrop is 2671 02:42:13,920 --> 02:42:18,810 something that came out of all of this. It's now possible to 2672 02:42:18,810 --> 02:42:26,160 reach out to the Washington Post and use these tools. Journalists 2673 02:42:26,160 --> 02:42:28,200 didn't really have an understanding as to the 2674 02:42:28,200 --> 02:42:31,050 technical problem. Why you couldn't just subscribe to them 2675 02:42:31,050 --> 02:42:35,070 by regular email. Exactly. Why why Washington Post did you go 2676 02:42:35,070 --> 02:42:41,460 to this President's man exposing Watergate? Well, that was that 2677 02:42:41,460 --> 02:42:42,960 was my reference was a movie. 2678 02:42:44,310 --> 02:42:46,050 Cheese. That's a pretty good clip. 2679 02:42:46,710 --> 02:42:50,550 So she saw the movie, the President's Man in Fear The 2680 02:42:50,550 --> 02:42:55,200 Washington Post is the way to go. Yeah. Okay. Well, 2681 02:42:55,470 --> 02:42:59,010 it also shows she was very, very sincere about getting this 2682 02:42:59,010 --> 02:43:00,990 information out. But there was a whole thing wasn't just like 2683 02:43:00,990 --> 02:43:04,800 some, like gay chat room and some other stuff was involved 2684 02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:06,960 with this. There was something else going on. 2685 02:43:06,960 --> 02:43:10,860 But she was brave. He at the time was bragging about doing 2686 02:43:10,860 --> 02:43:14,160 it, and somebody busted him. I mean, he would have never gotten 2687 02:43:14,160 --> 02:43:16,950 caught if he wasn't saying something about it. Now it's 2688 02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:20,670 classic. Yeah. And, of course, that person who busted him is 2689 02:43:20,670 --> 02:43:24,990 now dead. Who was that? I don't remember his name, but he died 2690 02:43:24,990 --> 02:43:31,200 about three weeks ago. Oh, geez. I thought that was rather weird. 2691 02:43:32,040 --> 02:43:34,530 Delta has been hacked. It was a hit that 2692 02:43:34,650 --> 02:43:38,700 though. On a second, I have two quick clips with the end here. I 2693 02:43:38,700 --> 02:43:41,130 didn't know this. I actually traveled with Delta. 2694 02:43:41,400 --> 02:43:43,590 We're following some breaking news. We've just learned of a 2695 02:43:43,590 --> 02:43:47,250 new cyber attack. This time targeting Delta Airlines Delta 2696 02:43:47,250 --> 02:43:50,430 says customers payment information may have been 2697 02:43:50,430 --> 02:43:54,660 breached last fall via a San Jose based chat services 2698 02:43:54,660 --> 02:43:58,710 provider. The airline says only a small subset of customers were 2699 02:43:58,710 --> 02:44:01,350 affected. And payment information was exposed for 2700 02:44:01,350 --> 02:44:04,350 about three weeks. In a statement Delta added it cannot 2701 02:44:04,350 --> 02:44:06,690 say definitively if any customers information was 2702 02:44:06,690 --> 02:44:10,260 actually accessed. And it will launch a dedicated website 2703 02:44:10,260 --> 02:44:15,570 delta.com response which will address questions and concerns. 2704 02:44:15,630 --> 02:44:16,680 Go check it out. 2705 02:44:18,630 --> 02:44:25,200 book a flight. Yeah, Tina has LifeLock and she gets regular 2706 02:44:25,230 --> 02:44:29,070 emails. It's very regular. She's Oh, look, this was compromised. 2707 02:44:29,070 --> 02:44:31,920 This was compromised. I need to write him down when she tells me 2708 02:44:32,070 --> 02:44:35,100 it's a lot more than we then you know, then propagates through 2709 02:44:35,100 --> 02:44:36,030 the news channels. 2710 02:44:36,300 --> 02:44:38,370 Oh, yeah, you should definitely bring that into the show. And 2711 02:44:38,370 --> 02:44:39,900 she's always saying hey, you know, 2712 02:44:39,930 --> 02:44:42,660 I can put you on you know, but get a discount. I got a coupon 2713 02:44:42,660 --> 02:44:46,530 code. Like, here's my stance like no, because what's going to 2714 02:44:46,530 --> 02:44:50,310 happen is those guys are gonna get hacked. I don't want all my 2715 02:44:50,310 --> 02:44:53,130 information in one place anymore. It's just it's not it's 2716 02:44:53,130 --> 02:44:53,850 not helpful. 2717 02:44:53,970 --> 02:44:57,300 It's just like the single point of failure password deal. 2718 02:44:58,590 --> 02:45:03,240 Yes, yes, one Are those I would be remiss if I did not give you 2719 02:45:03,240 --> 02:45:08,430 an update on the Juan brothers. These were the Pakistanis who 2720 02:45:08,430 --> 02:45:12,660 were mucking around in the Democratic Congressional 2721 02:45:12,660 --> 02:45:19,230 democratic computers for months, if not years. Removing servers 2722 02:45:19,230 --> 02:45:22,440 doing all kinds of shenanigans hired by Debbie Wasserman 2723 02:45:22,500 --> 02:45:25,800 Schultz. And this thing has been, you know, been covered. 2724 02:45:25,800 --> 02:45:28,920 They keep trying to cover it up as much as they can and it just 2725 02:45:28,920 --> 02:45:30,870 keeps rearing its ugly head. 2726 02:45:31,020 --> 02:45:34,440 We now know nearly 50 Democrats waived background checks for 2727 02:45:34,440 --> 02:45:38,490 Pakistani it aides accused of hacking. That includes former DC 2728 02:45:38,490 --> 02:45:41,700 chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz and inspector general's report 2729 02:45:41,700 --> 02:45:46,440 finding 44 Democrats chose not to vet Imran Juan and several of 2730 02:45:46,440 --> 02:45:49,350 his family members by using a loophole in the house security 2731 02:45:49,350 --> 02:45:52,350 policy. A woman who worked for Schultz was arrested for bank 2732 02:45:52,350 --> 02:45:55,020 fraud waiting for a flight to Pakistan last year 2733 02:45:55,080 --> 02:45:58,200 any collusion that's unbelievable this this is 2734 02:45:58,200 --> 02:45:59,280 getting no play 2735 02:46:00,090 --> 02:46:04,530 because well, mainstream media is not interested in in these 2736 02:46:04,560 --> 02:46:07,620 really good stories. Yeah, well, because it doesn't involve 2737 02:46:07,620 --> 02:46:08,190 Trump. 2738 02:46:08,250 --> 02:46:11,280 You know, Fox doesn't consider themselves mainstream media, 2739 02:46:11,550 --> 02:46:13,290 but which is a joke. 2740 02:46:14,490 --> 02:46:17,400 But the original money honey over there and Fox Business 2741 02:46:17,400 --> 02:46:20,820 News, Maria Bartiromo, had Donna Brazil on and asked her about 2742 02:46:20,820 --> 02:46:23,850 the Juan brothers. Let me ask before you go you wrote the book 2743 02:46:23,850 --> 02:46:25,230 hacks. Can you 2744 02:46:25,230 --> 02:46:27,000 believe that the hacking and 2745 02:46:27,000 --> 02:46:29,760 by the way, Maria has no idea what she's talking about? She's 2746 02:46:29,790 --> 02:46:31,200 confusing everything 2747 02:46:31,530 --> 02:46:34,680 to the DNC had anything to do with those AWHONN brothers, 2748 02:46:34,680 --> 02:46:40,200 the IT guys who the Democrats blew off their their background 2749 02:46:40,200 --> 02:46:42,750 checks and of course are under investigation today. 2750 02:46:43,320 --> 02:46:47,010 Well, you know, the the house investigation, I haven't read 2751 02:46:47,010 --> 02:46:49,590 the full report. But you know, I believe everyone should be 2752 02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:51,990 vetted. No, I don't believe those individuals had anything 2753 02:46:51,990 --> 02:46:55,140 to do with the hacking of the Democratic National Committee. I 2754 02:46:55,140 --> 02:46:58,080 would hope that before director Muller finished his 2755 02:46:58,080 --> 02:47:00,660 investigation, we get to the bottom of it. We know that there 2756 02:47:00,660 --> 02:47:03,780 was Russian interference in our election system, I want to 2757 02:47:03,780 --> 02:47:06,210 figure out who committed this crime and they should be brought 2758 02:47:06,210 --> 02:47:06,570 to just 2759 02:47:06,600 --> 02:47:09,810 know the Juan brothers just to be clear as a separate story 2760 02:47:09,810 --> 02:47:12,480 from the Russia from the Russia probe. 2761 02:47:12,840 --> 02:47:14,220 But you were there at the DNC. 2762 02:47:14,220 --> 02:47:15,510 Did you work with Mr. 2763 02:47:15,540 --> 02:47:20,340 Irwin? No, ma'am. They worked I believe in in the House of 2764 02:47:20,340 --> 02:47:25,320 Representative. I haven't worked on the Hill since 1999. So 2000 2765 02:47:25,320 --> 02:47:29,400 When I left, so no, I don't know anything about that. That series 2766 02:47:29,430 --> 02:47:33,690 of what I call in many ways. It was a it was a management 2767 02:47:33,690 --> 02:47:37,920 failure. It was bad. We should vet everybody, not just, you 2768 02:47:37,920 --> 02:47:40,860 know, democratic staffers, every staffer who works for the House 2769 02:47:40,860 --> 02:47:44,430 of Representative or the United States Senate, anybody? It 2770 02:47:44,430 --> 02:47:46,680 should be better. Yeah, I mean, you would think so don, it's 2771 02:47:46,680 --> 02:47:48,480 always a pleasure to see you. Thanks so much, 2772 02:47:48,510 --> 02:47:52,800 so much for your Fox Business News. vapid, empty, empty, 2773 02:47:52,800 --> 02:47:56,490 nothing news story of the century as far as I'm concerned. 2774 02:47:56,820 --> 02:48:02,160 It's a great story. It could be isI it could be all kinds of spy 2775 02:48:02,160 --> 02:48:09,810 stuff go completely overlooked. All right. Anything we need to 2776 02:48:09,810 --> 02:48:12,450 be looking at for for this evening's entertainment? 2777 02:48:13,920 --> 02:48:17,310 I don't think so. Thanks. So we then went on to NCAA Tournaments 2778 02:48:17,310 --> 02:48:21,000 over the basketball season is wrapping up. You got 2779 02:48:22,050 --> 02:48:24,240 you got anyone coming over for your birthday to sit in a 2780 02:48:24,240 --> 02:48:24,720 circle. 2781 02:48:26,010 --> 02:48:28,320 And we get the chairs you're gonna put the circle there and 2782 02:48:28,320 --> 02:48:30,510 they're gonna sit there and drink coffee and stare at each 2783 02:48:30,510 --> 02:48:30,840 other. 2784 02:48:31,290 --> 02:48:36,090 Great. I can't wait to see how thi adorable does in the circle. 2785 02:48:36,930 --> 02:48:38,430 Get him in young John teaching 2786 02:48:38,970 --> 02:48:40,920 likes at teaching young 2787 02:48:42,360 --> 02:48:46,590 and we'll be back on Sunday with another deconstruction of your 2788 02:48:46,590 --> 02:48:49,440 media here on the no agenda show. Remember us at the 2789 02:48:49,440 --> 02:48:53,370 vortech.org/na and I am coming to you from downtown Austin, 2790 02:48:53,370 --> 02:48:56,220 Texas. This is the capital of the drone Star State FEMA Region 2791 02:48:56,220 --> 02:48:59,550 six and all the governmental maps in the five by nine studio 2792 02:48:59,550 --> 02:49:02,010 in the common law condo in the morning, everybody. 2793 02:49:02,400 --> 02:49:05,370 I'm Adam curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're 2794 02:49:05,370 --> 02:49:09,300 having a storm approaching. It's gonna be a real gully washer and 2795 02:49:09,300 --> 02:49:12,900 I believe this will just head to head back east and give you guys 2796 02:49:12,900 --> 02:49:15,480 nothing but grief. I'm John C. Dvorak and 2797 02:49:15,480 --> 02:49:22,500 until Sunday, as always, Happy Birthday John and adios mofos 2798 02:49:24,960 --> 02:50:00,570 give me a cab. You So how are 2799 02:50:11,070 --> 02:50:35,310 we love no agenda going to start because we really love the 2800 02:50:35,310 --> 02:50:37,380 phrase from the shades 2801 02:50:41,040 --> 02:51:20,040 of Florida belly inside insider has switched to nobody's gonna 2802 02:51:20,040 --> 02:51:28,650 watch youtube today she's gonna make them stream Feeny she 2803 02:51:28,650 --> 02:51:33,810 always says she was gonna let us go min you can see no training 2804 02:51:33,810 --> 02:51:38,670 because there is no treaty one reason do you need to be lucky 2805 02:51:42,060 --> 02:52:05,550 don't don't don't draw community stole the whole side video from 2806 02:52:05,550 --> 02:52:08,670 your account has been disabled for violation of the YouTube 2807 02:52:08,670 --> 02:52:12,450 community guidelines. Thank you and have a nice day. Oh well 2808 02:52:12,960 --> 02:52:37,290 guess it better go and ask for a manual review MOPO boruch.org/n 2809 02:52:37,380 --> 02:52:37,740 A