1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,060 She looks like William Shatner, Adam curry, 2 00:00:03,210 --> 00:00:07,140 John C. Dvorak, Sunday, February 11 2018. This is your award 3 00:00:07,140 --> 00:00:10,230 winning gizmo nation media assassination episode one double 4 00:00:10,230 --> 00:00:10,890 oh seven. 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,810 This is no agenda, 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,500 suffering from a Olympic fever and broadcasting live from 7 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:19,260 downtown Austin Tejas capital, the drone Star State in the 8 00:00:19,260 --> 00:00:21,810 gluteal in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 9 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:27,510 and from Northern Silicon Valley I'm here tweeting. I'm John C. 10 00:00:27,510 --> 00:00:30,810 Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill. 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,690 Okay, okay, rough opening. 12 00:00:34,470 --> 00:00:36,960 We'll get there. I can't get enough that gag 13 00:00:37,650 --> 00:00:42,180 of your tweeting. Yeah, yeah. It was funny. The first four or 14 00:00:42,180 --> 00:00:42,870 five weeks. 15 00:00:42,900 --> 00:00:46,380 Yeah, but nobody no one's ever heard that. That particular gag. 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,530 Okay, no one's ever heard. I'm saying I'm tweeting that I make 17 00:00:49,530 --> 00:00:50,370 the tweaks and 18 00:00:50,580 --> 00:00:54,240 but the question is, John, do you have Olympic fever? 19 00:00:57,210 --> 00:01:03,390 No, I have I would like to see the lose girl. And girl. Yeah, 20 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:08,790 girl I didn't get to see here just look but here's what 21 00:01:08,790 --> 00:01:13,410 bothers me. The Olympic a holes they don't let anyone actually 22 00:01:13,410 --> 00:01:14,640 cover these games. 23 00:01:15,390 --> 00:01:15,990 Correct? 24 00:01:17,070 --> 00:01:18,960 That's true. You don't you can't 25 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:23,130 see anything. You have to watch NBC or watch NBC 26 00:01:23,130 --> 00:01:27,090 all you get is just nothing. Yeah. And so I have not I've yet 27 00:01:27,090 --> 00:01:30,570 to see that are super good. Skater fall on his ass. And 28 00:01:30,570 --> 00:01:33,990 that's what I've been wanting to see. Oh, chin. Yeah. Oh, 29 00:01:34,259 --> 00:01:39,209 it was so sad. Was it? Yeah. I watched on Thursday night after 30 00:01:39,209 --> 00:01:42,749 the show. I watched the game was kind of like a pre was the team 31 00:01:42,779 --> 00:01:45,659 competition, which doesn't really count. It does. But it's 32 00:01:45,659 --> 00:01:50,159 just for the team. Every everybody was falling, including 33 00:01:50,159 --> 00:01:50,849 our guy who 34 00:01:50,850 --> 00:01:55,230 was damaged. So I love seeing that stuff. It was the best it 35 00:01:55,230 --> 00:01:55,410 was 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,580 boom, boom, it was so dramatic. And then the and we have these 37 00:01:59,580 --> 00:02:04,200 commentators who are former skaters one is a very little 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,130 woman. And then there's the super gay guy. Both of them are 39 00:02:08,130 --> 00:02:11,760 Olympics top quality skaters and you know, that's what you do you 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,000 move on to that gig, but they're wearing like, you know, pink 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,670 glitter glasses. Their microphones are all glitter 42 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:20,670 glammed and glittered up it was a little over the top for me, 43 00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:24,870 geez, man. Feel bad. I feel bad. I missed that. That sounds like 44 00:02:24,870 --> 00:02:26,280 the best part of the whole thing 45 00:02:26,310 --> 00:02:30,180 was, and I had recorded it. So I could fast forward through all 46 00:02:30,180 --> 00:02:33,150 the bullcrap. And then they go back to the studio and do some a 47 00:02:33,150 --> 00:02:36,300 package of oh, look at South Korea. Okay, great. Faster. Oh, 48 00:02:36,510 --> 00:02:38,520 by the way, there's nothing here's what else bothers me. 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,660 Besides the fact that nobody gets to cover it. Is the is 50 00:02:42,660 --> 00:02:46,650 these human interest stories that drag on? Yes. 51 00:02:47,519 --> 00:02:52,439 And then we have the, or the ORS we have a new team, the oars, 52 00:02:53,939 --> 00:02:56,549 Olympic athletes from Russia, because of course, you know, 53 00:02:56,549 --> 00:02:59,429 Russia can't participate. So they have a little booth and a 54 00:02:59,429 --> 00:03:02,369 little dugout and a little section for the ORS the Olympic 55 00:03:02,369 --> 00:03:05,609 athletes from Russia. And they can't say they're letting him do 56 00:03:05,609 --> 00:03:09,389 stuff. It's it's really quite, it's just an if I find it 57 00:03:09,869 --> 00:03:12,749 shameful, really. It is shameful. I mean, there's 58 00:03:12,779 --> 00:03:15,569 there's enough countries participating who, well it's 59 00:03:15,569 --> 00:03:19,499 about the doping and understand and was it 30 She 60 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:20,550 got a punishment. You got to 61 00:03:20,550 --> 00:03:23,670 punish them. Yeah, you got to punish him. But I was watching 62 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:26,340 the opening ceremony. And you're right, no one else can cover 63 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:30,690 him. They take everything off YouTube. And I I was like, Yeah, 64 00:03:30,690 --> 00:03:33,150 I'll get it off YouTube. And I'll get it tomorrow more. Yes, 65 00:03:33,150 --> 00:03:36,330 Sunday morning, I'll find it no problem. So of course, I could 66 00:03:36,330 --> 00:03:39,930 only find a clip of this, that someone did shooting the TV, 67 00:03:39,930 --> 00:03:43,980 which is very annoying from the audio perspective. But this is 68 00:03:43,980 --> 00:03:46,920 when you know, after they do the big Illuminati opening, and boy 69 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,350 wasn't good. They had me hypnotized and in trance. After 70 00:03:52,350 --> 00:03:55,500 the big opening, then the athletes stream in and 71 00:03:55,500 --> 00:03:59,160 everyone's you know, it's the parade. And the Dutch came by. 72 00:03:59,490 --> 00:04:02,160 And you know, this is one of these things where if you read 73 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,760 something in the New York Times that you really know about, you 74 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,520 really have understanding of the topic and you see all of the 75 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,120 mistakes that The New York Times makes. Oh, yeah, just terrible. 76 00:04:12,150 --> 00:04:15,510 You just lose faith in in anything else. The New York 77 00:04:15,510 --> 00:04:19,020 Times writes. And Katie Couric was brought in which I feel was 78 00:04:19,020 --> 00:04:25,500 a massive slam towards Megan. Megan Kelly should have been 79 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:26,100 doing that. 80 00:04:28,260 --> 00:04:31,800 But oh, my guess Yeah. So she's then coming. She did? Well, I 81 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:34,290 don't know. Yeah. 82 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,120 Yeah, I think I think it was a slam towards Megyn. Kelly. I 83 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,070 was yeah, there's a fight going on. 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,060 For I did it. I don't want to do that. Stop it. 85 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,670 Don't do that. Katie Couric as she could. 86 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,840 She's reading the she's reading the script. And the Dutch come 87 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:55,980 in and why are the Dutch so good at skating John, why do they why 88 00:04:55,980 --> 00:04:59,310 do they have so many metals? Why are the Dutch so good at 89 00:04:59,310 --> 00:04:59,730 skating? 90 00:05:01,710 --> 00:05:05,370 Because the whole country is a frozen lake of ice. 91 00:05:05,549 --> 00:05:08,879 Next is the Netherlands is probably not a newsflash to tell 92 00:05:08,879 --> 00:05:11,639 you. The Dutch are really, really good in speed skating. 93 00:05:11,999 --> 00:05:16,109 All the five of the 110 Medals they won have been on the speed 94 00:05:16,109 --> 00:05:19,439 skating oval. Now. Why are they so good? You may be asking 95 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:22,049 yourselves, because skating is an important mode of 96 00:05:22,049 --> 00:05:25,349 transportation in a city like Amsterdam, which sits at sea 97 00:05:25,349 --> 00:05:28,949 level. As you all know, it has lots of canals that can freeze 98 00:05:28,949 --> 00:05:32,609 in the winter. So for as long as those canals have existed, the 99 00:05:32,609 --> 00:05:36,299 Dutch have skated on them to get from place to place to rate race 100 00:05:36,299 --> 00:05:36,809 each other. 101 00:05:38,250 --> 00:05:43,290 Okay, so first of all, Amsterdam is below sea level, not at sea 102 00:05:43,290 --> 00:05:48,870 level, as you all know. And no, we do not jump on the canals in 103 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:52,290 Amsterdam for transportation in the winter, Katie Couric 104 00:05:52,980 --> 00:05:55,530 Can I ask you a question? How do you get down there? 105 00:05:57,420 --> 00:06:01,110 They have ladders there's little ladders and stuff game. Well, 106 00:06:01,110 --> 00:06:02,820 that sounds inconvenient. But yeah, 107 00:06:02,850 --> 00:06:06,240 come on. Oh, yes, the Dutch for centuries. As you know, when the 108 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,300 canals reason Amsterdam, they just strap on their Hans Brinker 109 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:11,280 skates and use it for transportation. 110 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,430 So you get from here to there. 111 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,520 Unbelievable. Unbelievable. 112 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:21,660 Well, you know, we'll hold on, I'm gonna mention something. 113 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:27,330 There is a in Ottawa city. They do have this huge river. And 114 00:06:27,330 --> 00:06:30,270 they and that does freeze over constantly, because it's really 115 00:06:30,270 --> 00:06:33,780 cold up there, comparative to Amsterdam. Yeah. And there's two 116 00:06:33,780 --> 00:06:36,450 Canadians all jump on that thing. And they do go to some 117 00:06:36,810 --> 00:06:37,770 often go to work. 118 00:06:38,190 --> 00:06:41,760 Fine. But that's this is the opening to the Olympics is 119 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,910 stupid. But if you're wondering why the Dutch are good at 120 00:06:44,910 --> 00:06:48,030 skating, I'll tell you why. There is of course, there's a 121 00:06:48,030 --> 00:06:52,110 skating tradition, but throughout as long as I can 122 00:06:52,110 --> 00:06:55,440 remember, and I think this goes back to the 50s, certainly early 123 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,640 50s, maybe even the 40s they have the 11 city skate 124 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,480 competition. And that only happens on natural ice. And it 125 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,810 only happens when the ice is thick enough. All these canals 126 00:07:06,810 --> 00:07:09,540 have to be frozen over it's hundreds of kilometers. I don't 127 00:07:09,540 --> 00:07:13,260 know exactly how long it is. And you know, people freeze half to 128 00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:16,680 death or fingers get chopped off they because you know you can't 129 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,440 you sometimes you can't go under the bridge, you have to then go 130 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,350 on your knees. It's called Karuna. And you have to go on 131 00:07:22,350 --> 00:07:25,260 your knees around on, you know, around the bridge and then get 132 00:07:25,260 --> 00:07:29,130 back on your skates. And the minute it starts to get cold, 133 00:07:29,370 --> 00:07:32,550 every young male in the Netherlands starts to practice. 134 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:34,620 I am going to do it this year, I'm going to be I'm going to win 135 00:07:34,620 --> 00:07:35,490 it. I'm going to be in 136 00:07:36,180 --> 00:07:38,400 New York Mayor Boston Marathon except it 137 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,330 doesn't happen. So let me see the last time they had one. 138 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,990 Because they had no they have these committees who go out and 139 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:49,170 measure the ice and everyone's really all Is it time. Will it 140 00:07:49,170 --> 00:07:50,190 happen? Is this 141 00:07:50,669 --> 00:07:51,599 global warming this? 142 00:07:52,530 --> 00:07:56,730 Exactly. I can't I can't remember when the last time is 143 00:07:56,730 --> 00:08:03,420 that they did one? I don't know. Maybe the troll room might know 144 00:08:03,420 --> 00:08:07,410 last time they did it. But it's every 1015 years is that they're 145 00:08:07,410 --> 00:08:10,320 full of crap. Yes. Big big time full of crap. But it doesn't 146 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,100 matter. I'm a big fan. I liked that. We have now the where's 147 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:18,000 the bobsled team from this year? The joke bobsled team the women 148 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,740 isn't the isn't the females from women? Yes. From Nigeria? Maybe? 149 00:08:23,039 --> 00:08:27,089 No, no. It's from Bahamas or some warm place. I said Why 150 00:08:27,089 --> 00:08:29,939 should one of those islands is some Caribbean population? 151 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:35,820 I'd like that. Let me see. It's the it is Nigeria make it? No, 152 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,980 no, no, the Jamaican bobsled team. They 153 00:08:37,980 --> 00:08:40,590 made the movie about it. Now it's they have now they have two 154 00:08:40,590 --> 00:08:41,850 women Jamaican no 155 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,140 Nigerian John. It's not Jamaican. It's Nigerian. Well, 156 00:08:46,830 --> 00:08:51,000 yeah, there's a difference. There's a difference. That's 157 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,710 interesting. You bring that up. Last night we went to thing here 158 00:08:55,710 --> 00:08:59,910 in Austin. And we were in the Uber. And you know, I was like 159 00:08:59,910 --> 00:09:03,300 to talk to the Uber guy and see where he's from. And they a lot 160 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:08,310 of the drivers we've had recently are from Nigeria. And 161 00:09:09,870 --> 00:09:14,160 what's the other one Somalia. And so my, my standard staple is 162 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,400 always Oh, how's the Chinese? You know, that's when they do 163 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,940 their head whips around they go what you know about that. And 164 00:09:20,940 --> 00:09:25,470 this guy was from Kenya, but it had a great, you know, Cadence 165 00:09:25,470 --> 00:09:28,110 and I heard like a little English twangs that don't tell 166 00:09:28,110 --> 00:09:30,510 me, let me guess where you're from. So I go through a couple 167 00:09:30,510 --> 00:09:33,630 of different I'm wrong, wrong, wrong wrong. And then I hit on 168 00:09:33,630 --> 00:09:37,440 Kenya. And he's like, Yeah, that's right. And then I said 169 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:44,280 up. Obama's birthplace. The US throw this out that he says he 170 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,770 turns to me says, you know, he speaks fluent Swahili, don't 171 00:09:46,770 --> 00:09:50,820 you? I see. He does Yes, fluently, fluently, but he won't 172 00:09:50,820 --> 00:09:54,210 do it in in Kenya. Because politically he can't do it. He 173 00:09:54,210 --> 00:09:56,430 says because then everyone will know the gig is up. That's 174 00:09:56,430 --> 00:10:00,540 literally what the guy said. This is totally free. Kenya 175 00:10:03,389 --> 00:10:04,559 Wow, never heard 176 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:07,350 that one. And I didn't know he was fluent in Swahili. 177 00:10:08,550 --> 00:10:11,400 Like you're all the bullcrap. He's even talked to Obama 178 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,060 himself. 179 00:10:13,050 --> 00:10:16,410 Okay, he's an Uber driver John take it for the face take it at 180 00:10:16,410 --> 00:10:24,180 face value, if you don't mind. Anyway All right. 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Are you still 193 00:11:17,790 --> 00:11:18,090 there? 194 00:11:18,870 --> 00:11:20,760 I'm sorry. I was going through the notes. That was 195 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:25,800 odd. Why it turned out it rebooted. What rebooted the echo 196 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,910 the Alexa device it rebooted when I did that. It's Yes, it's 197 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:32,250 digging away now is doing all kinds of stuff which 198 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:37,740 dinging away thinking cannot compute cannot compute I guess. 199 00:11:37,980 --> 00:11:39,750 Best podcasts cannot compute 200 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,630 by where do we start? John? There's a lot of I think 201 00:11:42,630 --> 00:11:45,090 interesting things happening some stuff that is not 202 00:11:45,090 --> 00:11:49,440 necessarily in the at the front of the news. And 203 00:11:49,829 --> 00:11:52,739 I have the front of the new stuff in front of the news top 204 00:11:52,739 --> 00:11:55,799 mainly this scandal The so called scandal because of this 205 00:11:55,799 --> 00:11:59,279 guy who punched out his wife. There's two things that went on 206 00:11:59,279 --> 00:12:02,489 one. This guy punched out his wife supposedly but we don't 207 00:12:02,489 --> 00:12:05,429 know that. And then the other one you apparently verbally 208 00:12:05,459 --> 00:12:09,569 verbally abused as you're talking about Porter. Yeah, I 209 00:12:09,569 --> 00:12:13,619 got a bunch of stuff because I have the ABC report, which is 210 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,899 the report itself is scandalous, because it is got whipsaws and 211 00:12:19,019 --> 00:12:26,489 false accusations. And the funny thing is on Saturday, another 212 00:12:26,489 --> 00:12:29,849 guy resigned which I think then this guy does sound like a wife 213 00:12:29,849 --> 00:12:33,989 beater, play this Soros and resigns a clip. So it gets a 214 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:37,590 White House speech writer David Sorensen stepped down yesterday 215 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:41,280 after his ex wife alleged that he was violent and emotionally 216 00:12:41,310 --> 00:12:44,520 abusive during their marriage. He is the second White House 217 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,550 official this week to resign following allegations of 218 00:12:47,550 --> 00:12:50,610 domestic abuse. In an interview with the Washington Post, 219 00:12:50,610 --> 00:12:54,030 Sorensen's ex wife Jessica Corbett detail the allegations, 220 00:12:54,090 --> 00:12:58,980 including that he ran a car over her foot and put a cigarette out 221 00:12:58,980 --> 00:13:01,080 on her hand. Am 222 00:13:01,830 --> 00:13:05,730 Now that sounds like some guy there are guys like that. 223 00:13:07,170 --> 00:13:09,480 I don't know any of them. But okay. Oh, I 224 00:13:09,479 --> 00:13:11,819 don't personally know him. I know of them. And they're, 225 00:13:11,999 --> 00:13:16,829 they're out there. And they're just creeps. I think that's the 226 00:13:16,829 --> 00:13:21,029 real key. He didn't even bother for anything to get any further 227 00:13:21,029 --> 00:13:24,329 than that. And he just quit. Right? As opposed to the other 228 00:13:24,329 --> 00:13:27,149 guy who hung on since apparently January or February whenever 229 00:13:27,149 --> 00:13:30,779 they really first find out about it and I'm dubious about the 230 00:13:30,779 --> 00:13:35,369 first guy. But let's play the scandal so we can take take a 231 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:39,779 look at the whole story overall with the little the little bitty 232 00:13:39,779 --> 00:13:41,999 whips I love. Some of them are minor. Some of them are 233 00:13:41,999 --> 00:13:44,099 outrageous. This is 234 00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:47,340 the ROB Porter scandal. Yeah. And this is we just we just set 235 00:13:47,340 --> 00:13:49,800 this up a little bit or is that in the intro? It's in 236 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,730 the intro right. And 237 00:13:50,730 --> 00:13:53,730 I President Trump speaking publicly for the first time 238 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,030 about the domestic abuse scandal involving his former close aide 239 00:13:57,030 --> 00:14:01,260 Rob Porter and allegations now made by Porter's two ex wives. 240 00:14:01,650 --> 00:14:04,680 The president today praising Porter's work wishing him well 241 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:07,770 telling reporters quote, he says he's innocent. And I think you 242 00:14:07,770 --> 00:14:10,470 have to remember that the President adding it's been a 243 00:14:10,470 --> 00:14:13,470 tough time for Porter, White House Communications Director 244 00:14:13,470 --> 00:14:16,140 Hope Hicks, who has been romantically linked to Porter 245 00:14:16,530 --> 00:14:18,570 was right there in the Oval Office as the president weighed 246 00:14:18,570 --> 00:14:21,690 in today. And late today, sources telling ABC News that 247 00:14:21,690 --> 00:14:24,870 Chief of Staff John Kelly has now expressed to President Trump 248 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,280 his willingness to resign over his handling of the scandal. ABC 249 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,620 senior White House correspondent Cecile de Vega leading 250 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:33,180 okay 251 00:14:34,830 --> 00:14:41,070 now we go into it and Cecilia is Trump hater. And and the way she 252 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:44,100 presents the story, I think sounds objective but then you 253 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:48,720 hear these little whipsaws that are pretty, pretty, pretty 254 00:14:48,750 --> 00:14:53,970 obvious when you would go through it. Now this guy you 255 00:14:53,970 --> 00:14:57,750 have to assume a couple of things. Trump never met the 256 00:14:57,750 --> 00:15:01,830 women so he never says much about the X Y wives. And you, I 257 00:15:01,830 --> 00:15:05,910 have to assume you don't have to assume anything. But I have to 258 00:15:05,910 --> 00:15:10,260 assume that the way I'm looking at this thing is that he talked 259 00:15:10,260 --> 00:15:11,730 to Hope Hicks about the guy. 260 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:15,870 Yep. I have some thoughts about that. But I'll wait for you. 261 00:15:16,260 --> 00:15:18,810 Yeah, you can do your thoughts that you I'm sure your thoughts 262 00:15:18,810 --> 00:15:21,060 will be more interested in mine at the end of this, but because 263 00:15:21,060 --> 00:15:25,140 my concentration is really on the poor job, that they are not 264 00:15:25,140 --> 00:15:27,450 the poor job, there's a really good job if you're going to if 265 00:15:27,450 --> 00:15:31,230 you're going to produce a hit piece against Trump, and hide it 266 00:15:31,530 --> 00:15:33,630 as though it's about something else. But that's what 267 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,080 well, for sure, this entire scandal is not about the 268 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,110 scandal. It's about Trump's Trump Trump. It's about Trump, 269 00:15:40,260 --> 00:15:43,140 and he has shitty people, and he's hired shitty people. And 270 00:15:43,140 --> 00:15:46,080 John Kelly is shitty and everyone's shit. It's not even 271 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,130 it's not even it's not even about the actual abuse that that 272 00:15:50,130 --> 00:15:54,690 went away very quickly. I will say, the in no small part, 273 00:15:54,690 --> 00:16:00,000 thanks to not Trump may be weird. But well, he's statement 274 00:16:00,060 --> 00:16:02,430 and I didn't I thought actually you thought you might have it. 275 00:16:02,430 --> 00:16:03,270 But his you have 276 00:16:03,270 --> 00:16:06,990 it? It's in here. Okay. Well, he's just started I just that 277 00:16:06,990 --> 00:16:08,670 was just the intro. And I'll just 278 00:16:08,670 --> 00:16:12,450 say his statement, and we'll hear it in whatever piece. He 279 00:16:12,450 --> 00:16:15,210 doesn't say stuff like that, or it, let's say put it this way. 280 00:16:15,210 --> 00:16:20,100 He has the uncanny knack to say something outrageous like, Obama 281 00:16:20,130 --> 00:16:23,970 wiretapped me. And then much later, it turns out that he 282 00:16:23,970 --> 00:16:29,070 wasn't far off the mark. Not the way he presented this was 283 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:32,910 completely colorblind and tone deaf. I mean, what did he 284 00:16:32,910 --> 00:16:36,030 expect? I understand he really believes the guy is innocent. I 285 00:16:36,030 --> 00:16:39,510 can tell. That's his his word, just saying the guy is innocent. 286 00:16:39,570 --> 00:16:42,510 He only might as well say this, this girl is full of crap. 287 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,210 That's problematic in PR world. 288 00:16:45,630 --> 00:16:48,990 Well, it's problematic with Trump in particular. Yes. So 289 00:16:48,990 --> 00:16:50,970 let's go on with the first subtle whipsaw. 290 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,510 With his White House under fire. Today, President Trump breaking 291 00:16:54,510 --> 00:16:58,800 his silence, praising his former staff Secretary Rob Porter, who 292 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,670 resigned amid allegations he abused both of his former wives. 293 00:17:02,700 --> 00:17:03,390 We certainly 294 00:17:03,390 --> 00:17:08,880 wish him well. It's a obviously tough time. For him. He did a 295 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,050 very good job when he was in the White House. And we hope he has 296 00:17:13,050 --> 00:17:17,550 a wonderful career and hopefully he will have a great career 297 00:17:17,550 --> 00:17:22,530 ahead of him. But it was very sad when we heard about it. And 298 00:17:22,530 --> 00:17:28,590 certainly he's also very sad. Now he also, as you probably 299 00:17:28,590 --> 00:17:32,580 know, he says he's innocent. And I think you have to remember 300 00:17:32,580 --> 00:17:35,490 that he said very strongly yesterday that he's innocent. 301 00:17:36,030 --> 00:17:39,360 While the President talks about the tough time for Porter, no 302 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:43,080 mention of the women Porter's two ex wives who went public 303 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,440 with their accusations of verbal and physical abuse. One 304 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,190 releasing this photo of a black and blue eye. She says from 305 00:17:50,190 --> 00:17:53,730 porters punch, as President Trump spoke right there in that 306 00:17:53,730 --> 00:17:57,300 room communications director Hope Hicks who is romantically 307 00:17:57,300 --> 00:18:00,720 linked to Porter and Chief of Staff John Kelly, who was 308 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,080 brought in to restore order in the West Wing, but Kelly 309 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,290 reportedly knew about the abuse allegations against Porter for 310 00:18:07,290 --> 00:18:11,430 months, and sources telling ABC News The president is furious 311 00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:15,120 with how both aides handled the West Wing crisis Hicks, those 312 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:18,630 sources say helped write the administration's initial public 313 00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:20,340 statements defending Porter, the 314 00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:23,280 President Chief of Staff have had full confidence and trust in 315 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,890 his abilities and his performance. So defending 316 00:18:29,010 --> 00:18:33,990 defending is not the same as saying we liked his performance. 317 00:18:34,020 --> 00:18:37,350 Oh, well, but it's the same as you know, defending keh keh keh 318 00:18:37,350 --> 00:18:39,900 and white nationalists in Charlottesville, which he also 319 00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:41,250 didn't explicitly do. 320 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:44,280 No, he didn't. No, not even he didn't even come close to 321 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,710 explicitly doing that. That doesn't matter that is now in 322 00:18:46,710 --> 00:18:51,150 the lexicon. It's done by innuendo. And they're really 323 00:18:51,150 --> 00:18:54,360 good at it. This is not the best example. But this this whole 324 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:57,720 thing where first they praised him, he's really talking about 325 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,940 something else. Yeah, they use these clips very carefully to 326 00:19:02,970 --> 00:19:06,600 mislead you. Let's go to three. 327 00:19:07,170 --> 00:19:10,350 When the story first broke, Kelly called porter a man of 328 00:19:10,350 --> 00:19:14,370 true integrity and honor. But tonight Sources tell ABC News 329 00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:17,880 that within the past 24 hours, Kelly told the president he 330 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,150 would be willing to resign. They say the President has spoken to 331 00:19:21,150 --> 00:19:24,450 confidants about possibly replacing Kelly, including 332 00:19:24,450 --> 00:19:28,350 gauging businessman and longtime friend Tom Barix interest in the 333 00:19:28,350 --> 00:19:31,200 job. Merrick said he's not interested. 334 00:19:32,730 --> 00:19:36,690 Okay, now, this is an example of you. We don't know anything 335 00:19:36,690 --> 00:19:39,840 about barracks. I've never even heard his name. I never heard 336 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,050 his name either. But they bring him in. So they can be it's 337 00:19:43,050 --> 00:19:47,100 almost as though they said Who can we call? Hey, Adam, did you 338 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:49,350 get a call for it? Are you interested in taking Trump's 339 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:52,530 job? You said I'd never I haven't been offered the job. 340 00:19:52,530 --> 00:19:55,650 No, I'm not interested in the least. So that they report that 341 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,170 even Adam curry wouldn't take the 342 00:19:58,170 --> 00:20:01,110 job. That would be a good one. forte by the way, that'd be kind 343 00:20:01,110 --> 00:20:01,470 of cool. 344 00:20:01,950 --> 00:20:04,650 It will he wouldn't even he's not taking the job and then they 345 00:20:04,650 --> 00:20:08,070 have a clip of you saying I'm not interested of anything else. 346 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:14,700 I mean, this is like, I this is ABC and his best. So let's go on 347 00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:15,450 to the next one. 348 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,350 This is Kelly does some damage control of his own sending this 349 00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:22,470 letter to staffers saying the White House takes matters of 350 00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:25,530 domestic violence very seriously. And in a meeting 351 00:20:25,530 --> 00:20:28,950 first thing this morning, the Washington Post says Kelly told 352 00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:32,700 staffers to say he took action to remove Porter within 40 353 00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:36,690 minutes of learning the ex wives allegations were credible. But 354 00:20:36,690 --> 00:20:40,380 Porter's ex wives tell ABC News, they told the FBI about his 355 00:20:40,380 --> 00:20:43,980 alleged abuse last January, when they were interviewed as part of 356 00:20:43,980 --> 00:20:46,860 his White House security clearance. His second wife, 357 00:20:46,860 --> 00:20:49,710 Jenny Willoughby says she told them everything. 358 00:20:49,799 --> 00:20:55,379 I told them, all of the details of my marriage, including verbal 359 00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:58,049 and emotional abuse. Okay, verbal 360 00:20:58,050 --> 00:20:59,550 and emotional, but No, all right. 361 00:20:59,910 --> 00:21:03,450 Verbal and emotional abuse, which means you're yelling at 362 00:21:03,450 --> 00:21:03,960 your wife. 363 00:21:04,590 --> 00:21:08,400 Verbal and emotional abuse is very real. And it's very 364 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,520 religious. Generally speaking, I'm not taking the you're 365 00:21:11,550 --> 00:21:16,350 talking to a divorce a, who's been wronged by the guy and the 366 00:21:16,350 --> 00:21:20,040 first woman in particular, by the second woman. Yes, this guy 367 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,590 jumps from woman to woman, he's not going to get good reviews. 368 00:21:23,489 --> 00:21:25,649 His Yelp star is not rising. 369 00:21:28,410 --> 00:21:31,080 And verbal abuse isn't the same as punching somebody. 370 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,860 I agree. I agree. They don't have a clip of the other ex wife 371 00:21:34,860 --> 00:21:39,000 I presume? No. Right. If they did, here's the here's the thing 372 00:21:39,030 --> 00:21:42,150 that is confusing me and I, of course I Well, first of all, 373 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:47,130 this is a moment where it's so here we have this Rob guy, Rob 374 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,200 Porter. He is saying this didn't happen. It's not true. And I 375 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,130 gave that picture to authorities a long time ago, I but I can't 376 00:21:56,130 --> 00:21:59,490 find anything and no one seems to. I'm interested in what 377 00:21:59,490 --> 00:22:03,690 happened. Because moving forward, when you have an 378 00:22:03,690 --> 00:22:06,900 accusation, you have to take it extremely seriously. And it 379 00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:10,860 needs to be looked into not like this. This isn't this is not the 380 00:22:10,860 --> 00:22:13,260 way to do it. As far as I'm concerned. You know, just say, 381 00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:16,980 Trump's an asshole. Nobody wants a job. This guy's a douchebag 382 00:22:16,980 --> 00:22:20,640 he's sure looks like a douchebag every everything I read about 383 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,510 his douchebag but everybody deserves to have his quote day 384 00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:29,040 in court. And if he explicitly says I'm not guilty, I'm 385 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,980 interested in how he wants to prove that but I can't No one's 386 00:22:31,980 --> 00:22:33,630 reporting on that. I can't find it so well 387 00:22:33,630 --> 00:22:38,100 as he's already gone. He's gonna have to do this on his own time. 388 00:22:38,580 --> 00:22:42,450 And I mean, I'm every problem I always have is I'm always 389 00:22:42,450 --> 00:22:46,590 reminded of the Duke lacrosse team. Oh, yeah, that was falsely 390 00:22:46,590 --> 00:22:50,880 accused of rape, and pretty much run out of town the whole team 391 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:55,740 unfairly because the whole thing was was trumped up. Or the or 392 00:22:55,740 --> 00:22:59,760 the rapist fraternity that was written up in Rolling Stone 393 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,600 which turned out to be a woman creating a story that some 394 00:23:04,020 --> 00:23:07,530 gullible reporter bid on and wrote it up and they had the 395 00:23:07,530 --> 00:23:11,280 whole magazine had to apologize to the frat and this guy thing 396 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,350 was Cornell I can't remember the school and just 397 00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:14,220 just to stop you. 398 00:23:14,340 --> 00:23:15,450 This does happen. 399 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,610 I can see eyes roll. No, but I believe that everyone in the M 400 00:23:20,610 --> 00:23:24,420 five M media is too pussy to say what we're saying. It's like, 401 00:23:24,420 --> 00:23:28,590 okay, everything show me all the circumstantial evidence, more 402 00:23:28,590 --> 00:23:32,970 than circumstantial actually says this guy abused his ex 403 00:23:32,970 --> 00:23:36,390 wives. But he's saying he's innocent. So now I'd like to 404 00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:38,160 know. Okay. Let's find out. 405 00:23:38,190 --> 00:23:41,010 We also made some commentary about that picture. Yeah. 406 00:23:41,610 --> 00:23:44,490 He was He gave it to the authorities years ago. I don't 407 00:23:44,490 --> 00:23:45,930 understand what did he give was 408 00:23:45,930 --> 00:23:49,500 a backstory behind the picture. He says, right, but what is the 409 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:52,950 backstory? Was it somebody asked him? I can't find it. I found 410 00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:55,440 Yes. Because it's not out there. Now this. The thing that 411 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,560 bothered me the most is the Sorenson character who does 412 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,020 sound I mean, he's got the earmarks of one of these 413 00:24:01,020 --> 00:24:04,950 characters that is, you know, documented as a you know, put it 414 00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:09,450 I mean, it's just disgusting. This guy just seems like an a 415 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:09,930 hole. 416 00:24:10,050 --> 00:24:14,040 Right? Well, surprised. They're everywhere. 417 00:24:15,150 --> 00:24:18,960 Especially at that level. You get up into the CEO levels of 418 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,970 most companies, you're gonna run into stuff like that. That's 419 00:24:20,970 --> 00:24:24,840 where you see the holes. Yep. So I think we're going to which is 420 00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:26,310 which one is you just play? 421 00:24:26,940 --> 00:24:28,980 Yeah, you know, this is the last one is the Whopper. 422 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,070 Okay. The Washington Post reporting. White House Counsel 423 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:35,250 Don McGann first learned of the abuse allegations around the 424 00:24:35,250 --> 00:24:38,340 time of the President's inauguration. Porter denies 425 00:24:38,370 --> 00:24:42,150 abusing his ex wives saying these outrageous allegations are 426 00:24:42,150 --> 00:24:46,260 simply false. I took the photos and the reality behind them is 427 00:24:46,260 --> 00:24:49,830 nowhere close to what is being described. Well, we wish him 428 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:53,310 well. This is not the first time the President has come to the 429 00:24:53,310 --> 00:24:56,700 defense of a man accused of violence against women. He 430 00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:59,850 endorsed Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore in the face 431 00:24:59,850 --> 00:25:02,550 of multiple sexual misconduct accusations. 432 00:25:05,609 --> 00:25:09,329 Let's bring that back. All right, this is the worst of the 433 00:25:09,329 --> 00:25:13,289 good. This is just a lie. This is not the first time the 434 00:25:13,289 --> 00:25:16,769 President has come to the defense of someone who committed 435 00:25:16,769 --> 00:25:22,559 violence against the women. And then cites Roy Moore when 436 00:25:22,590 --> 00:25:24,930 there was no violence accusations there. Were there. 437 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:25,320 There was 438 00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:30,480 zero via violence. accusation, it was mostly pedophilic kind of 439 00:25:30,510 --> 00:25:35,250 accusations of anything underage. Underage or of yeah, 440 00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:41,760 that yeah, underage underage dating. So, so she just lied, 441 00:25:41,910 --> 00:25:45,420 and then backed it up by using the Roy Moore example, I found 442 00:25:45,420 --> 00:25:48,480 this to be and this was at the end of the report Depart you to 443 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,200 remember, I found it to be just borderline disgusting on the 444 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,660 part of ABC to report like, I don't want to hear to me it's 445 00:25:54,660 --> 00:25:57,150 not bad enough that they're piling on which is okay, they 446 00:25:57,150 --> 00:26:01,050 can do whatever they want. But but to do it with lies. Yeah. 447 00:26:01,410 --> 00:26:04,110 And you'd end exemplified with something that's gotten which 448 00:26:04,110 --> 00:26:07,920 actually is impugning Roy Moore even more than already, which I 449 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,150 found to be very poor. It is it was just made me sick, that I do 450 00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:15,000 have an addendum clip, which is just kind of a little casual 451 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,440 thing that was added at the end when they did a little 452 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,250 discussion. 453 00:26:21,270 --> 00:26:23,400 And Cecilia, the other major issue is still out there. We 454 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,070 know that Rob Porter was working with a temporary security 455 00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:29,250 clearance because of those accusations against him and more 456 00:26:29,250 --> 00:26:30,990 than a year into this administration. Now, he's not 457 00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:33,810 the only one in the West Wing who still have not been granted 458 00:26:33,810 --> 00:26:35,070 full security clearance. 459 00:26:35,220 --> 00:26:37,470 And yet David in the White House is refusing to provide a 460 00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:40,110 specific number on how many people are still using this 461 00:26:40,110 --> 00:26:44,250 temporary path. But our sources say that Jared Kushner, the 462 00:26:44,250 --> 00:26:46,440 President's own son in law is among them. 463 00:26:47,220 --> 00:26:50,820 Yeah. Okay. So our sources, and then at the White House have 464 00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:56,730 not, did not say that he have any numbers out of anybody, 465 00:26:56,730 --> 00:27:01,530 right? But they had to impugn Jared Kushner. Yes. Jared 466 00:27:01,530 --> 00:27:04,740 Kushner is one of the major targets right now. And I say 467 00:27:04,740 --> 00:27:13,170 that because I got into a I am phone texting debate with my two 468 00:27:13,740 --> 00:27:14,970 liberal friends. When 469 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,330 what what what application were you actually using? Was it text? 470 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:21,210 Was it AOL Instant Messenger? Or was it WhatsApp? What were you 471 00:27:21,210 --> 00:27:21,600 using? 472 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:28,530 Phone texts, phone text? And that Kushner is that is the is 473 00:27:28,530 --> 00:27:30,750 obviously the target because they were just going on and on 474 00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:33,900 about how this could happen. And how Trump can be president is 475 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:37,530 just horrible, that he even says anything positive about this, 476 00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:42,930 this guy who's you know, who punched his wife, and just 477 00:27:43,470 --> 00:27:46,710 completely off the rails and they said, and Kushner is going 478 00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:51,000 down. Kushner and Don Jr. is what I'm told those two, they're 479 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,430 the targets and they're going to, they're going to arrest the 480 00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:56,760 two of them. And they're going to end the two of them are going 481 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,500 to flip on Done. Trump. We're gonna flip both of them now 482 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:02,340 because they're weaning. 483 00:28:02,699 --> 00:28:06,419 I don't think that's I see something else. Then it's it 484 00:28:06,419 --> 00:28:07,259 came is giving 485 00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:08,430 you with these. 486 00:28:09,930 --> 00:28:11,910 Your guys have zero credibility. 487 00:28:12,390 --> 00:28:16,020 I know they still interested. No, they're plugged into this 488 00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:19,200 dimension B and whatever they're saying is a reflection of his 489 00:28:19,380 --> 00:28:21,330 thinking, Oh, that's interesting that people are thinking that 490 00:28:21,330 --> 00:28:21,660 way. 491 00:28:22,140 --> 00:28:24,990 Well, I'm thinking we have a black widow in the White House. 492 00:28:26,010 --> 00:28:29,580 And she's dangerous and she's working for Ivanka and that's 493 00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:35,400 Hope Hicks. Anything hope any man Hope Hicks touches gets 494 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,400 fired? You know, she had a relationship with Corey 495 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,910 Lewandowski gone. She had a relationship with Rob Porter 496 00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:46,440 gone. I believe and she's very good friends with Ivanka that's 497 00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:50,940 she comes from the Ivanka camp from Ivanka US company. I will 498 00:28:50,940 --> 00:28:53,820 say that Ivanka and the Daily Mail where this story broke 499 00:28:53,820 --> 00:28:57,360 about Rob Porter, you know, they have a very close relationship. 500 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,670 She She does a lot with the Daily Mail. Certainly PR wise. 501 00:29:03,030 --> 00:29:06,240 This is where this broken again, I just it's lackluster 502 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,430 reporting. If the guy says he didn't do it, I'd like to know 503 00:29:08,430 --> 00:29:12,330 about it. But if you just go look at pictures of just look 504 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,110 Hope Hicks picture. Yeah, I know she looks like me. But you want 505 00:29:16,110 --> 00:29:19,350 to see when she's next to she she touched she's one of she's a 506 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:23,490 woman who touches men all the time when she's talking to them. 507 00:29:24,150 --> 00:29:28,860 And I have picture after picture of her touching Reince Priebus 508 00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:33,960 gone. Rudy Giuliani actually kissing Rudy Giuliani, you know, 509 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,370 embrace like, Oh, yes to death. Yeah, kiss of death gone. Corey 510 00:29:38,370 --> 00:29:43,860 Lewandowski as I said, Gary Cohen would be next. She's like 511 00:29:43,890 --> 00:29:49,020 she's just rubbing up against Gary Cohen in pictures. And John 512 00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:52,230 Kelly to you know, she, she takes a picture, she'll put her 513 00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:56,520 flat palm on the man's chest. You 514 00:29:57,180 --> 00:30:00,480 know what that is? Yeah. In fact, what's her name? Does that 515 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:06,750 to Kellyanne Conway? And who else does it? Hillary? Hillary 516 00:30:07,950 --> 00:30:11,220 with Harvey Harvey and Harvey Weinstein, she's putting her two 517 00:30:11,220 --> 00:30:15,360 flat palms against his chest and transferring some debt. 518 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,030 I definitely wish Jeff entered his office he goes 519 00:30:19,980 --> 00:30:22,320 now we're using your interpretation that takes on a 520 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,820 whole new meaning. Yes. 521 00:30:24,450 --> 00:30:28,740 I'm telling you that Hope Hicks is on a mission. I don't know if 522 00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:31,440 it's for herself. I don't know if it's for Ivanka, but I think 523 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:36,180 she is the Black Widow in the White House. And people should 524 00:30:36,180 --> 00:30:37,050 stay away from her. 525 00:30:37,530 --> 00:30:41,190 It'd be for the reptilians though the greys you don't know. 526 00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:45,630 Okay, well, I'm just throwing it out there as an observation. And 527 00:30:46,290 --> 00:30:50,460 you know, if you want to protect the Kush, anyone who's getting 528 00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:54,450 in the way will get bitten by the Black Widow. 529 00:30:56,490 --> 00:31:02,040 Well, that takes that's a I am now reconsidering the photos 530 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,980 that I see. Wait. You'll see, you'll see Hillary for that 531 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:05,370 matter. 532 00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:10,200 I have a great Hillary clip. As a fun little entre monde on 533 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,410 Trump while she was at the makers Conference, which I 534 00:31:13,410 --> 00:31:17,070 thought was cool. Until I found out it wasn't about maker space. 535 00:31:17,250 --> 00:31:20,580 It was about time's up. I'm not sure exactly what this makers 536 00:31:20,580 --> 00:31:23,010 conference was about. And here we got brave enough 537 00:31:23,010 --> 00:31:26,910 to question and examine our own beliefs, brave enough to 538 00:31:26,910 --> 00:31:30,330 acknowledge that even those of us who have spent much of our 539 00:31:30,330 --> 00:31:35,010 life thinking about and fighting about gender issues, who even 540 00:31:35,010 --> 00:31:39,330 have first hand experiences of navigating male dominated 541 00:31:39,330 --> 00:31:44,310 industries may not always get it right. I pledge to continue to 542 00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:49,170 speak out I pledge to never give up. I will do everything I can. 543 00:31:49,230 --> 00:31:58,740 Here we go. To keep my voice number one to advance the rights 544 00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:00,150 and opportunities of women 545 00:32:01,830 --> 00:32:05,700 in the midst of this snowstorm, to stay on the frontlines of 546 00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:06,480 democracy 547 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,530 so you go she's deathly ill again 548 00:32:15,510 --> 00:32:22,710 to try to cough up a baby. Small lizard. I'm giving you a clip 549 00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:25,650 for the day because I knew that clip existed but I couldn't find 550 00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:34,650 I couldn't help making a loop out of it because it's so 551 00:32:34,650 --> 00:32:51,120 rhythmic you just want it you just want the guys you go on the 552 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,950 fly everybody jam session. 553 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,890 I was thinking about the hope not i Hope Hicks names got you 554 00:32:58,890 --> 00:32:59,490 got me bugged. 555 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,950 I knew I knew I would get you without it. Look at the 556 00:33:01,950 --> 00:33:06,600 pictures. And that's not gonna say one thing about that the 557 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,020 palm on the chest. I've talked with the keeper about this. He 558 00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:13,830 said if there was a picture that showed up with you and a woman 559 00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:16,140 had her hand on your chest like that said she'd be upset and I 560 00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:19,440 said yeah, I understand. I don't I think I would say excuse me, 561 00:33:19,470 --> 00:33:26,490 you just not do that. I find it very forward. I don't I don't 562 00:33:26,490 --> 00:33:28,080 put my hand on women's chest. 563 00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:33,900 I will you like to. I'm not. I wouldn't say stop doing that a 564 00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:36,030 guy bite them. bite them. Okay, 565 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,600 fine. But you understand what I'm saying is it's a very 566 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,680 aggressive move. 567 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,680 Yes, it's very aggressive now. But anyway, I was thinking about 568 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,180 this in the background of Hillary's 569 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,530 death coughing up a lizard. Yeah. 570 00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:57,810 And it is possible that it's just the opposite of what you 571 00:33:57,810 --> 00:34:02,160 think, Okay, I'm all here is the white widow. She is getting rid 572 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,350 of the evil around Trump. Very possible. Because everybody had 573 00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:12,330 mentioned brands previous the leaker Lewandowski she's friends 574 00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:15,240 but she's friends with Ivanka. And she would have to then get 575 00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:17,490 rid of Jared which would be 576 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,130 which is what is going on when you listen to 577 00:34:21,150 --> 00:34:26,190 play. All right. So prediction. She falls on her sword has an 578 00:34:26,190 --> 00:34:28,560 affair with Jared every everything blows up. 579 00:34:29,250 --> 00:34:31,680 That would do it. It's gonna do a better than what these 580 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:37,290 Democrats think is gonna happen. But that would do it. Okay. And 581 00:34:37,290 --> 00:34:41,880 if she's that good, you know, they have a seductress, 582 00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:47,490 but in a short section in a short amount of time, and, look, 583 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,310 it's a workplace I understand, but she did have a relationship 584 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:53,850 with Corey Lewandowski. He did get fired and had a relationship 585 00:34:53,850 --> 00:34:58,560 with Rob border when he got fired. You know, she's been 586 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,020 cuddling up to literally just Look at the pictures. You can't 587 00:35:01,020 --> 00:35:03,420 see it any other way than cuddling up and the guides in 588 00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:05,400 the pictures that she cuddles up to get fired. 589 00:35:08,370 --> 00:35:10,410 So maybe she's cleaning house. 590 00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:11,850 It feels like it. 591 00:35:12,779 --> 00:35:20,039 Well I would say I would I would make the assumption that's for 592 00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:25,799 the good. Okay. All right. Well, I'm just gonna do that because 593 00:35:25,919 --> 00:35:28,289 there's it could be. 594 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,470 She's a spider. We just don't know if she's black or white 595 00:35:31,470 --> 00:35:38,370 yet. Okay, Spider, spider spider. Spider lady telling you. 596 00:35:39,420 --> 00:35:42,330 Okay, well, I think nobody's covered this subject as much as 597 00:35:42,330 --> 00:35:44,190 well as we as we just did. 598 00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:47,640 Well, there's certainly a lot more to the story. I think that 599 00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:48,870 that's so evident. 600 00:35:49,230 --> 00:35:52,170 But nobody cares about that. They're this story about Trump. 601 00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:54,210 Yeah, it's not about this guy Porter, 602 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,660 but they don't even care about the they don't care about the 603 00:35:57,660 --> 00:36:00,540 women. They Oh, Trump said nothing about the women. Yeah, 604 00:36:00,540 --> 00:36:02,160 well, you're not reporting on it either. 605 00:36:04,290 --> 00:36:10,710 What's he supposed to say? i By the way, I find it admirable 606 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,560 that Trump would stand by his guy. 607 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,510 And I'm telling you, he he's a goofball. But he doesn't do that 608 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:21,150 unless he really thinks there was some railroading going on 609 00:36:21,150 --> 00:36:21,420 because 610 00:36:21,450 --> 00:36:25,110 well, I'm sure he does think that but but you know, to be one 611 00:36:25,110 --> 00:36:30,750 of these member when or member I said, Hey, a member or other 612 00:36:31,020 --> 00:36:35,910 remember when it was Breitbart that took a speech from that 613 00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:38,580 woman that was the part in the black woman is the Department of 614 00:36:38,580 --> 00:36:41,820 Agriculture, something and they he took a speech, we had a we 615 00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:44,940 covered it thoroughly, and clipped it in such a way that 616 00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:47,670 she sound like she was just being a racist at some meeting. 617 00:36:47,850 --> 00:36:52,320 And Obama fired her immediately. I'm trying 618 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,200 to think I don't remember that. No, I don't remember that. 619 00:36:55,650 --> 00:36:59,310 It was inadvertent. And then then it turned out to people 620 00:36:59,310 --> 00:37:02,280 found the whole speech and the whole thing was completely 621 00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:05,970 ridiculous. Yeah, out of context. Breitbart, it's done. 622 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,730 It was a setup. I think it was before Breitbart himself was 623 00:37:08,730 --> 00:37:13,440 still I think it was still alive. And, and, and everybody 624 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,800 had to Oh, my God, we fired her unfairly. And it was a big, 625 00:37:17,130 --> 00:37:18,870 it was that Michelle fields? No, 626 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,480 no. She makes cookies. I think that when he? I can't remember. 627 00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:29,730 I can't remember either. But you do remember the incident? Very 628 00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:34,410 that is not That's not what I want to see from a president now 629 00:37:34,830 --> 00:37:38,250 panicky, you know, somebody made an accusation, get them out of 630 00:37:38,250 --> 00:37:42,720 here, right. So I didn't think it was a big deal that Trump was 631 00:37:42,750 --> 00:37:45,930 like, took his time about getting the guy fired or having 632 00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:49,920 him resign, personally, because it wasn't an issue of national 633 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,630 security. It was his personal life. 634 00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:55,830 Surely, surely. Shirat tsherige? Sure. Sure. Ross shared 635 00:37:55,830 --> 00:37:59,820 it may have been something like that. Yeah. Yeah, we'll put 636 00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:00,210 maybe 637 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:05,970 well, I'm trying to I'm trying to find the spelling. See if I 638 00:38:05,970 --> 00:38:09,900 can find it. No, I What would you have titled the clip? Do you 639 00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:10,230 know? 640 00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:17,310 Bright by me had Brian. Try that I try that right. Share it. And 641 00:38:17,310 --> 00:38:23,100 I don't know firing. I probably titled this something incredibly 642 00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:23,910 stupid. 643 00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:26,670 Sorry, we don't have it. Okay. 644 00:38:27,690 --> 00:38:33,570 But the point is, is that AI is a is a leader. I mean, there's 645 00:38:33,570 --> 00:38:36,420 it's there is due process, and all these elements that are 646 00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:40,380 being ignored, just panicking, because somebody made an 647 00:38:40,380 --> 00:38:43,770 accusation. In fact, I got a message from a friend of mine 648 00:38:43,770 --> 00:38:46,620 who said he's friend working at some bank in New York and just 649 00:38:46,620 --> 00:38:50,100 got fired from an anonymous accusation from some woman 650 00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:53,610 saying he abused or something really, you never find out 651 00:38:53,610 --> 00:38:57,300 anything about it and got fired your friend. Termination like a 652 00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:01,560 friend of yours. No, the friend of mine did get fired his Galaga 653 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,600 and he is bitching about it? 654 00:39:03,930 --> 00:39:09,510 Right? Well, that's what we mean now have to do secretly we can 655 00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:11,730 bitch about it, but we can only bitch to each other and not in 656 00:39:11,730 --> 00:39:12,270 public. 657 00:39:13,980 --> 00:39:18,480 This is a fact that we can you and I can pitch in public. You 658 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,740 know, because we don't have bosses. 659 00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:23,460 Yeah, we don't. But it is it. There's a lot of aggravation 660 00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:26,760 that comes with just talking about stuff. 661 00:39:27,630 --> 00:39:30,450 Yeah, well, you had a lot as the couch. 662 00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:35,850 I do have a few other updates in in this genre. If we say this 663 00:39:35,850 --> 00:39:39,990 would be hashtag me too. In fact, maybe we should 664 00:39:41,220 --> 00:39:44,730 do this. Now. It's time for your sexual harassment. 665 00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:49,949 That's right. Sexual harassment update. We have a change in the 666 00:39:50,399 --> 00:39:56,879 law for Congress for the Congress, men in particular, I 667 00:39:56,879 --> 00:40:01,799 guess. It is the king Rational sexual harassment and 668 00:40:01,799 --> 00:40:06,089 discrimination addendum act I think something like that Jackie 669 00:40:06,089 --> 00:40:08,279 Speier has headed this Jackie Speier 670 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,740 has been a major voice for change on the Hill during the 671 00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:14,130 metoo movement. And her announcement today essentially 672 00:40:14,130 --> 00:40:18,270 will allow for this bill, this bipartisan legislation to go up 673 00:40:18,270 --> 00:40:21,480 for a vote it could come anytime this week. And what this bill 674 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,730 would do as amended congressional accountability act 675 00:40:23,730 --> 00:40:26,040 to require the members of Congress who settle sexual 676 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,300 harassment claims must pay the settlements themselves no longer 677 00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,240 with taxpayer dollars. And in addition to that, it will allow 678 00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:36,090 the accusers to file complaints without having to sign a 679 00:40:36,090 --> 00:40:38,790 nondisclosure agreement, something we've heard so much 680 00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:42,540 about in the last few months, these NDAs that keep people from 681 00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:45,600 being able to talk about what they alleged happened to them. 682 00:40:45,870 --> 00:40:48,150 Now, there's a lot of support for this bill, a lot of people 683 00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:51,330 who say that this is a much needed change. But there are a 684 00:40:51,330 --> 00:40:54,420 fair amount of criticisms as well. Some people say that it 685 00:40:54,420 --> 00:40:58,110 does not go nearly far enough. And in fact that it limits the 686 00:40:58,110 --> 00:41:02,700 ability for victims to file a lawsuit outside of this process 687 00:41:02,730 --> 00:41:06,360 on Capitol Hill, it would also require claims to be made under 688 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,880 oath, which some say can be pretty problematic, because a 689 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,700 lot of these allegations don't come with real evidence. It's 690 00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:15,540 often a he said she said situation now, all of that said, 691 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:20,040 I'm told that it is expected to pass with unanimous if not near, 692 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,880 and unanimous support when it does go up for a vote in the 693 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,380 House in the next few days. 694 00:41:25,470 --> 00:41:31,290 And it did pass. So I did not law yet, but it passed that 695 00:41:31,290 --> 00:41:34,770 hurdle. And it should be very interesting to see what happens 696 00:41:34,770 --> 00:41:35,130 now. 697 00:41:35,610 --> 00:41:37,950 Because yeah, well, that was proposed some time. But we 698 00:41:37,950 --> 00:41:40,170 actually talked about this. I know actually a couple months 699 00:41:40,170 --> 00:41:43,350 ago. Yes, we did. Well, here I thought it was I didn't think it 700 00:41:43,350 --> 00:41:46,170 was unreasonable. Because the apparently these guys were 701 00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:51,210 paying off huge settlements with taxpayer money. 702 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:55,620 Yeah, but there's that. But to get a black widow in there, and 703 00:41:55,620 --> 00:41:58,410 well, it's going to be because then they'll have to be hearings 704 00:41:58,410 --> 00:42:02,820 under oath and b is going to jam C span. It'll just be in you 705 00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:04,320 know, everyone will be only talking about 706 00:42:04,650 --> 00:42:06,990 stuff is kind of entertaining. Ah, 707 00:42:06,990 --> 00:42:10,770 not really, you know, the New York Times had a list of 708 00:42:10,770 --> 00:42:15,600 published a list of the 68 firings and resignations, 709 00:42:15,780 --> 00:42:19,950 actually after Weinstein colon 68 men accused of sexual 710 00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:21,840 misconduct and their fall from power. 711 00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:24,480 And all of them actually in there. 712 00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:26,910 There's a lot yeah, there's a lot who I haven't we haven't 713 00:42:26,910 --> 00:42:29,220 discussed and didn't know about. So would you like to go on the 714 00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:29,850 list briefly. 715 00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:32,370 I would love to go down the list briefly. 716 00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:35,520 So we have Daniel's Verbling. He's an investigative reporter 717 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,880 at NPR. And he won his accusations are 718 00:42:39,450 --> 00:42:41,700 just read the names. And now if they're interesting, we'll ask 719 00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:43,350 for the accusations that we plow through it. 720 00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:50,610 Vincent, the sister and Tony, Hollywood manager, John Copely, 721 00:42:50,610 --> 00:42:54,720 stage director at the Met Wayne but shell chief executive of the 722 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,910 Humane Society. That's pretty cool. 723 00:42:57,419 --> 00:43:00,179 That is funny. That is. That's ironic. 724 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,720 Yeah, accused of sexual harassment of three women 725 00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,480 including forced kissing, which is very egregious. 726 00:43:06,509 --> 00:43:08,909 Well, you know, it bothers me that love for sketching is just 727 00:43:08,939 --> 00:43:14,459 so egregious, horrible. But what bothers me is the is what 728 00:43:14,459 --> 00:43:16,649 happened to John Lasseter on the list. 729 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,370 Well, let me go down the list that No, he's not. Okay, well, 730 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,550 he should be on the list. Well, I'm just the list is incomplete. 731 00:43:23,550 --> 00:43:26,190 That's all I wanted to find out. But John last year was rousted 732 00:43:26,190 --> 00:43:29,580 from Pixar for unwelcome hugging. 733 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,160 He might be on the list. I thought it was alphabetical. 734 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,240 It's not. It's chronological. Okay, go then we have Steve Wynn 735 00:43:36,270 --> 00:43:39,510 Barry Lubin. Do you know Barry luminous? 736 00:43:39,870 --> 00:43:41,340 I don't know who Barry blueberry Lubin 737 00:43:41,340 --> 00:43:45,870 is grandma the clown for the Big Apple Circus. So imagine being 738 00:43:45,870 --> 00:43:47,730 harassed sexually harassed by a clown? 739 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,570 Well, I think most women feel that way about most men Gordon, 740 00:43:51,810 --> 00:43:54,450 Gordon Edelstein, artistic director of the Long Wharf 741 00:43:54,450 --> 00:43:59,490 Theatre, Patrick Mian, Mian Meaghan o Mead Maalik, which 742 00:43:59,490 --> 00:44:02,820 caught me for a second because I thought it was oh, Maalik. But 743 00:44:02,820 --> 00:44:06,150 he's omitted Maalik, apparently a different guy Managing 744 00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:09,780 Director of Bank of America James Rosen. Fox correspondent 745 00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:14,430 Mike Germano Chief Digital Officer advice. Don Hasan, 746 00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:17,790 journalist and executive director of AlterNet Marcelo 747 00:44:17,790 --> 00:44:22,110 Gomes, ballet dancer at the American Ballet Theatre, Charles 748 00:44:22,110 --> 00:44:25,470 Dutoit conductor and artistic director of the Royal 749 00:44:25,470 --> 00:44:28,770 Philharmonic Orchestra. Man does orchestra guys they get around, 750 00:44:28,770 --> 00:44:33,540 don't they? The club's boring job, the classical the classical 751 00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:37,050 arts, Morgan Spurlock documentary probably 752 00:44:37,050 --> 00:44:39,660 do they probably do classical harassment? Yeah, 753 00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:44,040 of course kissing. It's classical, darling. Not that 754 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,950 modern Weinstein jerk off in the plant stuff. We do. classic, 755 00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:50,430 classic, classic, classic, classic arrest classical 756 00:44:50,430 --> 00:44:54,360 harassment. Donovan McNabb, former NFL player, radio host 757 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,560 ESPN Eric Davis, also former NFL player and radio host on ESPN 758 00:44:58,890 --> 00:45:03,360 Mario Batali. Chief, a chef, restaurant owner, co host of the 759 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,120 to one of your favorite shows. 760 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,920 Well, he's actually more of a he's a very famous chef and owns 761 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,290 a number of starred restaurants. Bobbo being his hot spot in New 762 00:45:16,290 --> 00:45:21,150 York City, and he always seemed like kind of a creepy guy, but 763 00:45:21,150 --> 00:45:23,910 he's a chef. I mean, some of them are, you know, the chef 764 00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:26,550 said, we have a lot of chefs listen to the show. And you 765 00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:30,030 know, these guys. It's a little community of people and they 766 00:45:30,030 --> 00:45:31,500 know there's a lot of creeps in their 767 00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:36,450 groups everywhere. Yeah, well, Ryan Lizza, writer for The New 768 00:45:36,450 --> 00:45:39,810 Yorker and political analyst for CNN, Alex Kaczynski, federal 769 00:45:39,810 --> 00:45:43,800 judge appeals court, Trent Franks and a representative for 770 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,900 Arizona Lauren Stein, editor of the Paris Review. Matt Dubbin, a 771 00:45:49,230 --> 00:45:52,440 California State Assemblyman Peter Martin's leader of New 772 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,010 York City Ballet, again, the classical the classical arts. 773 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,160 There's a problem in the classical arts here, Israel 774 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,470 Horvitz playwright, founding artistic director of the 775 00:46:01,470 --> 00:46:06,330 Gloucester stage theater. We have Shervin Pishevar these from 776 00:46:06,330 --> 00:46:10,860 Sherpa capital. Justin Huff a Broadway casting director. Gee, 777 00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:15,390 how could you expect that from a casting director? Garrison? 778 00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:19,200 Keylor killer killer? That's the that's the he's not the 779 00:46:19,770 --> 00:46:20,880 killer killer. Yeah, 780 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:26,790 the NPR Guy, Matt Lauer. Johnny on the prairie loose Zini. Chef 781 00:46:26,850 --> 00:46:32,430 and judge on the great American baking show. Charlie Rose, John 782 00:46:32,430 --> 00:46:36,600 Conyers, Coyne Conyers, Jr. These Michigan representative 783 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,260 Russell Simmons Al Franken. David Russell Simmons. 784 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,410 Yes, sir. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's admitted to that. I'm not an 785 00:46:43,410 --> 00:46:44,940 officer. So 786 00:46:45,060 --> 00:46:47,850 I'm sorry. He has not he has not he I vehemently deny all these 787 00:46:47,850 --> 00:46:51,900 allegations. I've already heard the allegations. Sexual assault 788 00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:56,490 of two women and rape of three others. He's gay. Russell 789 00:46:56,490 --> 00:46:57,030 Simmons. 790 00:46:57,450 --> 00:47:00,480 Oh, Russell Simmons. I was thinking to Richard Simmons. 791 00:47:01,410 --> 00:47:04,710 Okay. Oh, Russell Simmons. I think I've always thought he was 792 00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:07,530 gay that those accusations kind of surprised me. 793 00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:15,030 David Sweeney, chief news editor at NPR. Stephen or Stephen 794 00:47:15,060 --> 00:47:19,650 Vitel, Florida Democratic Party chairman. West Goodman, Ohio 795 00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:22,710 State Representative Mark Shuang director and producer of One 796 00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:27,060 Tree Hill and the Royals. Eddie Berganza. editor at DC Comics 797 00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:30,300 Andrew Kreisberg, executive producer of Arrow Supergirl and 798 00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:34,500 the flash. Tony Cornish representative who's that those 799 00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:39,600 Super Girl guy? Andrew Kreisberg, executive producer of 800 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,070 Arrow Supergirl and the flash accusation section sexual 801 00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:47,880 harrassment of more than a dozen people fired by Warner Brothers 802 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,790 TV group response I have made comments on women's appearances 803 00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:53,520 and clothes in my capacity as an executive producer but they were 804 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,620 not sexualized. Sounds a lot like us. 805 00:47:56,100 --> 00:48:00,150 Yeah, sounds when we do our executive bid. Yep. So this is 806 00:48:00,150 --> 00:48:02,430 common. I don't know why, you know, what are these? What's 807 00:48:02,430 --> 00:48:05,970 going on? Well, I got fired because gonna get fired by our 808 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,430 by our imaginary bosses. If we keep this bid up, Louie CK 809 00:48:11,460 --> 00:48:16,080 Dan schoon, Minnesota State Senator Benjamin Janak Keough, 810 00:48:16,590 --> 00:48:20,310 Executive Director at the Armory Show Art Fair. Ed Westwick. 811 00:48:20,310 --> 00:48:25,440 actor David Guillard, Gilead co executive, co chief executive of 812 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,300 primary wave entertainment agency, Danny Masterson, actor 813 00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:35,340 Andy Dick actor, Andy Dick. Chase. Yes, he's groped me. Andy 814 00:48:35,340 --> 00:48:39,240 did close everybody. Matt he's probably proud of being on the 815 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:43,170 list. Nyko Yeah. Michael rascasse. Oh, I didn't know head 816 00:48:43,170 --> 00:48:46,410 of news that NPR and former New York Times editor that NPR news 817 00:48:46,410 --> 00:48:47,460 department is doing well. 818 00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:51,960 Hamilton is getting his numbers up. Yeah. Amongst other things. 819 00:48:52,260 --> 00:48:57,240 Hamilton fish, oh. President and publisher of the New Republic 820 00:48:57,270 --> 00:49:00,900 Kevin Spacey, Kurt Webster, publicist for music business 821 00:49:01,470 --> 00:49:06,330 rule. Bocanegra, California State Assemblyman Mark Halperin. 822 00:49:06,330 --> 00:49:10,350 We know him from NBC News. Rick Najera, Director of CBS 823 00:49:10,350 --> 00:49:11,730 diversity showcase. 824 00:49:12,660 --> 00:49:15,930 That's a good one. Yeah, no more irony. Yeah, sexual 825 00:49:15,930 --> 00:49:18,150 harassment, including inappropriate comments to 826 00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:21,030 performers. He resigned. And his response 827 00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:24,870 was means you suck. Could be anything. 828 00:49:26,490 --> 00:49:30,480 Night Landesman, publisher of The Art Forum to classics man, 829 00:49:30,510 --> 00:49:30,900 it's really 830 00:49:32,220 --> 00:49:35,400 you guys. Where's the opportunity to do the 831 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,000 harassment? 832 00:49:36,689 --> 00:49:40,799 Baby? Let me see you your art. Sexual harassment of at least 833 00:49:40,799 --> 00:49:44,279 nine women including groping, he resigned and his response I 834 00:49:44,279 --> 00:49:47,579 fully recognize I have tested I've tested certain boundaries, 835 00:49:47,579 --> 00:49:54,089 which I'm working hard to correct. Steve Jurvetson that's 836 00:49:54,089 --> 00:50:00,269 the VC guy. Who Jurvetson Steve Jurvetson Steve Jurvetson Yeah. 837 00:50:01,469 --> 00:50:08,009 Co Founder of venture capital firm a board member. Yeah. Leon 838 00:50:08,009 --> 00:50:13,529 recent. What did Jurvetson do? Sexual misconduct is all it says 839 00:50:13,889 --> 00:50:17,489 the term resigned from the firm taking leave of absence from all 840 00:50:17,489 --> 00:50:21,419 boards he's on. And his response was let me be perfectly clear. 841 00:50:21,659 --> 00:50:25,469 No such allegations are true. Nice performance the way he quit 842 00:50:25,469 --> 00:50:30,749 everything right. Leon because well, you know, in corporate 843 00:50:30,809 --> 00:50:34,619 life can't have this they they don't want to risk a boycott or 844 00:50:34,619 --> 00:50:40,589 anything. So, yeah. Implications enough. Leon vehcile tier editor 845 00:50:40,589 --> 00:50:43,679 at the New Republic. Terry Richardson, fashion photographer 846 00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:46,589 John Besh, Chief Executive of the Best Restaurant Group, 847 00:50:46,589 --> 00:50:51,479 another one of these restaurant guys. Lockard steel and 848 00:50:51,569 --> 00:50:54,809 editorial director of Vox media, Robert Scoble, tech blogger, co 849 00:50:54,809 --> 00:50:58,469 founder of the transformation group, Clif height, senator from 850 00:50:58,469 --> 00:51:01,649 Ohio, Chris Savino, creator and showrunner of the loud house, 851 00:51:01,649 --> 00:51:06,359 Roy price head of Amazon Studios, and the signori, Senior 852 00:51:06,359 --> 00:51:09,299 Vice President of content for defy media and then we have 853 00:51:09,299 --> 00:51:14,279 Harvey Weinstein and then there's Jesus 28 suspensions and 854 00:51:14,279 --> 00:51:17,879 other foul it's very long even Ben for Where's Bill O'Reilly 855 00:51:17,909 --> 00:51:21,989 and not on there. Ben Vereen? I know Ben Vereen was on the list, 856 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,830 and Vereen? Yeah, what about Roger Ailes and Bill Bill 857 00:51:25,830 --> 00:51:27,930 O'Reilly I can guarantee you I mean, this is the New York Times 858 00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:29,850 what did they have they overlooked these guys not 859 00:51:29,850 --> 00:51:32,820 on the list. That's interesting. 860 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,900 That's a point to this list are some politics about this because 861 00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:41,100 they left those guys off. I think 862 00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:43,530 people want to Riley they want free tickets to all the 863 00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:47,220 classical shows probably. Our guys 864 00:51:47,820 --> 00:51:51,060 getting any, I get a ticket. So let's go. 865 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,840 Then we have a very interesting revelation. 866 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,640 Come in, by the way end of the hugger over here. Yes, Christina 867 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,870 listed either Lasseter. 868 00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:04,740 Well, the one that should be on the list is California 869 00:52:04,740 --> 00:52:07,320 Assemblywoman Christina Garcia, Assemblywoman 870 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,500 Garcia, the Democrat from Bell Gardens. She is accused of 871 00:52:10,530 --> 00:52:13,770 inappropriately touching a staffer from another office at a 872 00:52:13,770 --> 00:52:18,300 legislative softball game back in 2014. The staffer who now has 873 00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:21,780 his own communications firm, told the publication politico 874 00:52:21,810 --> 00:52:24,420 that he was in the dugout after the game and that when the 875 00:52:24,420 --> 00:52:28,410 assemblywoman came in, he says she appeared drunk and touched 876 00:52:28,410 --> 00:52:32,070 him inappropriately. He said he decided to come forward now 877 00:52:32,070 --> 00:52:35,340 because he was troubled by seeing her role in the me to 878 00:52:35,340 --> 00:52:38,940 movement. Garcia Bell Gardens Democrat, as we said, has been a 879 00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:42,090 strong voice in that me too movement and was profiled in 880 00:52:42,090 --> 00:52:44,940 Time Magazine's recent Person of the Year Edition. 881 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,220 That's pretty egregious. 882 00:52:47,550 --> 00:52:51,360 I would say for one thing, if you're some guy and some drunk 883 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:56,850 woman comes up and grabs your balls or something but buttocks 884 00:52:57,330 --> 00:53:01,320 or buttocks, it shoves her away, or I'd say keep doing it. I 885 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,560 mean, you'd be you wouldn't go run into the media. Oh, 886 00:53:04,620 --> 00:53:06,990 only only in political cases. Do you run to the 887 00:53:07,380 --> 00:53:13,320 pulpit but because he saw her as some holier than thou type with 888 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,840 the me to movement. He says, come out. 889 00:53:16,290 --> 00:53:18,030 Women Garcia issue. Anybody 890 00:53:18,810 --> 00:53:19,920 got a second clip here. 891 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,640 Assemblywoman Garcia issued this statement regarding the 892 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,370 allegations. She says she will fully participate in any 893 00:53:26,370 --> 00:53:30,330 investigation into her conduct. She did confirm that she was 894 00:53:30,330 --> 00:53:34,710 present at that softball game back in 2014. But she says she 895 00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:37,260 does not recall any inappropriate behavior. 896 00:53:38,070 --> 00:53:40,230 She was plastered. Of course he doesn't 897 00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:46,740 recall it. Last night we went to flower child are you familiar 898 00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:50,340 with this chain of eateries flower never heard of it. It's 899 00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:54,090 pretty it's actually I think it's a golden formula. They have 900 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,000 you know, kind of like quinoa bowls and stuff and kale, which 901 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,750 I won't eat, but they have no wraps with the avocado and other 902 00:54:00,750 --> 00:54:06,300 things and deconstructed burrito bowls. And, and they have no 903 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:08,910 service which is great. Yeah, you walk up your order, you get 904 00:54:08,910 --> 00:54:11,550 a number and then they bring it to your table. I think there's 905 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,300 like a Mexican tacos sounds like a Mexican Thai Korea and he 906 00:54:15,330 --> 00:54:15,720 plays 907 00:54:16,170 --> 00:54:20,070 with the with the douchey attitude, basically. Okay. Yeah, 908 00:54:20,070 --> 00:54:24,480 sounds right. And so I walk in and the guy goes, Oh, my God for 909 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,250 a second when you put your glasses on, I thought you were 910 00:54:26,250 --> 00:54:29,940 my favorite psychologist. I'm like Who says I'm not. But who 911 00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:33,690 is your favorite psychologist? And guy says, Jordan Peterson. 912 00:54:34,860 --> 00:54:38,850 Do you see a resemblance? None. That was obvious as well with 913 00:54:38,850 --> 00:54:41,940 you. You're tall and your dad dashing and you've got the 914 00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:43,020 grayish hair. 915 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,920 You have a scarf? No, I didn't throw it back. 916 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:52,620 But I do have an interesting clip from Mr. Peterson. Who was 917 00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:56,640 in an interview with Vice I think. Yeah, he's 918 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:57,660 the hot topic right now. 919 00:54:57,660 --> 00:55:01,770 This always very hot topic and he does a little Like you do me, 920 00:55:02,130 --> 00:55:05,520 you know, so you'll ask, I can ask you a question you'll give 921 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,850 me an asshole answer. You know what I'm talking about? You'll 922 00:55:08,850 --> 00:55:09,150 hear he 923 00:55:09,150 --> 00:55:10,260 ever done that 924 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,190 sexual harassment in the workplace? Yes. Should it stop? 925 00:55:14,220 --> 00:55:19,080 That'd be good, will it? Well, not at the moment it won't 926 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,210 because we don't know what the rules are. Do you think men and 927 00:55:21,210 --> 00:55:23,130 women can work in the workplace together? You don't know, 928 00:55:23,220 --> 00:55:24,330 without sexual harassment? 929 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,060 We'll see. That's a Devorah answer. 930 00:55:28,860 --> 00:55:32,040 Yes, that was that. That was That asshole answers just didn't 931 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:32,520 answer 932 00:55:32,550 --> 00:55:34,290 at the moment. It won't. Because we don't know what the rules 933 00:55:34,290 --> 00:55:36,540 are. Do you think men and women can work in the workplace 934 00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:38,970 together? You don't know. Without sexual harassment? We'll 935 00:55:38,970 --> 00:55:42,120 see. Well, how many years will it take for men and women 936 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,190 working in the workplace together? More than four data 937 00:55:44,190 --> 00:55:44,580 sets 938 00:55:44,610 --> 00:55:45,570 more than 40? Don't 939 00:55:45,570 --> 00:55:48,180 know what the rules are? Like, what? Here's a rule. Don't talk 940 00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:51,660 about no makeup in the workplace. Oh, why would that? 941 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,990 Why should you wear makeup in the workplace? Isn't that 942 00:55:54,990 --> 00:55:58,920 sexually provocative? No, it's not. No. What is it? Then? 943 00:55:59,340 --> 00:56:02,820 What's the purpose of makeup? Some people would like to just 944 00:56:02,820 --> 00:56:06,870 put on makeup. Why? To? I don't know why. Why do you make your 945 00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:10,470 lips red? Because they turn red during sexual arousal. That's 946 00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:14,040 why why do you put rouge on your cheeks? Same reason? I mean, 947 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,830 look, how about high heels? We're going to think What about 948 00:56:16,830 --> 00:56:20,580 hey, what about them? They're there to exaggerate sexual 949 00:56:20,580 --> 00:56:23,430 attractiveness. That's what high heels do. Now, I'm not saying 950 00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:26,130 that people shouldn't use sexual displays in the workplace. I'm 951 00:56:26,130 --> 00:56:30,120 not saying I do. But I am saying that that is what they're doing. 952 00:56:30,420 --> 00:56:33,630 And that is what they're doing it Do you feel like a serious 953 00:56:33,630 --> 00:56:37,170 woman who does not want sexual harassment in the workplace? Do 954 00:56:37,170 --> 00:56:39,900 you feel like if she wears makeup in the workplace, that 955 00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:45,060 she is somewhat being critical? Yeah. I do think that Boom 956 00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:45,840 shakalaka 957 00:56:46,410 --> 00:56:50,160 Wow, he's right, done. I've come tatical simpatico with this guy. 958 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,250 See, I knew you would like it. I compared you to him. And now you 959 00:56:53,250 --> 00:56:54,150 feel good about Yeah, 960 00:56:54,149 --> 00:56:57,689 I'm fine. I admire that you did that or admire? I thank you for 961 00:56:57,689 --> 00:56:58,019 doing 962 00:56:58,050 --> 00:56:59,490 that. You do admire it. Yes. 963 00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:05,220 But yes, I'm totally in agreement with this. You know, 964 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,450 what do you wait? I don't think it's a big deal, by the way. And 965 00:57:09,450 --> 00:57:13,500 I think a lot of women would just assume, assume, would I'm 966 00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:18,150 sorry, I think most women would gladly not wear makeup, and have 967 00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:21,030 to get all dolled up. I mean, Texas is the worst for this and 968 00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:24,480 you live down there. If you work in Texas, have the women like 969 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,310 it, by the way, because I've discussed this with the women 970 00:57:26,310 --> 00:57:29,910 who moved from elsewhere to Texas. Yeah. Where they're now 971 00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:34,500 dolled up in the office. Yeah, and many of them think it's 972 00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:37,920 fantastic. It's just like it's because it's fun to get all 973 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,430 dolled up. And it's you know, it's not necessarily trying to 974 00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:44,550 get laid, you just like to get dolled up and in Texas that you 975 00:57:44,550 --> 00:57:47,430 can really get carried away with that and you go to some of these 976 00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:49,950 Texas offices and all the women are and you go to a little 977 00:57:49,950 --> 00:57:52,800 restaurant in the middle of nowhere a little I remember 978 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,280 running into I was in Judas in Georgia not Texas but similar 979 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,640 situation. I'm I never could find this place again. It was a 980 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,410 very obscure but absolutely fantastic rib joint in the 981 00:58:04,410 --> 00:58:07,740 middle of nowhere, Georgia. I was stuck in Georgia for an 982 00:58:07,740 --> 00:58:10,050 extra day before my plane was gonna leave in the evening. So I 983 00:58:10,050 --> 00:58:14,880 decided to drive around South Georgia where I found this this 984 00:58:14,910 --> 00:58:17,100 rib joint in the middle of nowhere. I was the only guy in 985 00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:21,000 there and this waitress comes out she's she's dolled up to the 986 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:26,250 10s she had big red lips and have all kinds of makeup on a 987 00:58:26,250 --> 00:58:28,650 hair all done up and everything. I was just very impressed by 988 00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:35,160 that. Impressed no less, but I would have to say that I agree 989 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,130 with him again, I've been promoting this idea that in a 990 00:58:38,130 --> 00:58:40,650 workplace environment especially where you have a lot of this 991 00:58:40,650 --> 00:58:44,610 harassment going on. You should not women should not wear makeup 992 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,350 or get all dolled up they should wear what men wear. Wear but 993 00:58:49,350 --> 00:58:52,770 suits but women's suits pants probably shouldn't even be 994 00:58:52,770 --> 00:58:58,020 showing any legs. I think pants pants is fine. And you're good 995 00:58:58,020 --> 00:59:01,140 now now that we get you even ground nothing, nothing. There's 996 00:59:02,070 --> 00:59:03,270 nothing going on there. 997 00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:05,250 Well I would find that very sad. 998 00:59:06,780 --> 00:59:09,570 Well, we don't work in offices either one of us so it's not as 999 00:59:09,570 --> 00:59:13,560 though that would affect us. But yeah, yeah, it is kind of sad, 1000 00:59:13,620 --> 00:59:16,920 but the way things are going is kind of sad. And 1001 00:59:17,850 --> 00:59:20,160 your sexual harassment update 1002 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,640 Yeah. All right. 1003 00:59:26,670 --> 00:59:30,750 Well, with that I would actually like to thank you for your 1004 00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:33,990 courage and say in the morning to you John. As he stands for 1005 00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:36,420 cosmetics in the workplace double rag 1006 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,850 Willie in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry. Also, in the morning 1007 00:59:41,850 --> 00:59:44,250 Joel boots on the ground feed near sums in the water all the 1008 00:59:44,250 --> 00:59:45,630 names tonight's out there in the 1009 00:59:45,630 --> 00:59:49,230 morning to the troll room. No agenda stream.com Lots of people 1010 00:59:49,230 --> 00:59:51,300 in there this morning. Good to see y'all. Thank you very much 1011 00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:55,710 trolls. We'd love you in our own special way. In the morning to 1012 00:59:55,710 --> 00:59:59,790 Laderman studio, who brought us the artwork for Episode one 1013 00:59:59,790 --> 01:00:03,120 double Low six congressional jiggy was the title of that. 1014 01:00:03,630 --> 01:00:10,590 This was this was an evergreen eg qNi digney digney This was a 1015 01:00:10,590 --> 01:00:13,500 an evergreen that we've liked very much and had promised 1016 01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:17,430 ourselves to use it was the classic his masters voice the 1017 01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:23,250 dog Coxhead looking into the the gramophone porn, with instead of 1018 01:00:25,230 --> 01:00:30,270 was that? Which label was that? RCA RCA. Right? So instead of 1019 01:00:30,270 --> 01:00:33,480 RCA, it said CIA as the label, which was cute. 1020 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,200 Yeah, it was cute. And 1021 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,410 we appreciate all the work that our artists do. It's their 1022 01:00:40,410 --> 01:00:44,160 version of the value for value. And it look, we got pros working 1023 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,790 on this stuff. So they upload stuff during the show. And we 1024 01:00:47,820 --> 01:00:51,090 choose something from the no agenda Art Generator, which you 1025 01:00:51,090 --> 01:00:54,060 can find it no agenda, art generator.com. And we put it 1026 01:00:54,060 --> 01:00:56,670 right there into the mp3 file into the show notes into the 1027 01:00:56,670 --> 01:00:58,650 feed everything. Thank you very much to everybody. 1028 01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:05,220 Indeed, we have a few people that think I have to adjust the 1029 01:01:05,220 --> 01:01:06,870 spreadsheet. Sorry. Ah. 1030 01:01:09,690 --> 01:01:13,860 Yeah. Okay. So your spreadsheet and what happened? 1031 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:21,690 Well, I, I was I blow it up to 150%. So it fills the screen and 1032 01:01:21,690 --> 01:01:24,510 I got it. So it's very readable from a distance because I'm mile 1033 01:01:24,510 --> 01:01:29,160 away from the screen. And so instead of, I put in the custom, 1034 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,110 because I don't this is different than the other 1035 01:01:31,110 --> 01:01:35,220 spreadsheet. So instead of putting 150% in, which is what I 1036 01:01:35,220 --> 01:01:38,280 wanted to do, I put in 5%. 1037 01:01:40,110 --> 01:01:42,090 And so the spreadsheet you thought you had forgotten your 1038 01:01:42,090 --> 01:01:42,840 medication, 1039 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,520 and the spreadsheet became very small. Yes, very small. All 1040 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,490 right, well, we do have to thank one person profusely, and I'm 1041 01:01:50,490 --> 01:01:52,440 going to introduce his Insta Baron. 1042 01:01:52,590 --> 01:01:53,370 What very, 1043 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,580 I think it's like a third one that we've had. And I'm going to 1044 01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,690 put it into the barrens. I'm going to go back to something I 1045 01:02:00,690 --> 01:02:04,140 forgot about this policy we had for big donors like this, okay. 1046 01:02:04,170 --> 01:02:09,060 But we used to we this is Roger Colburn. He came in with $3,000, 1047 01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:14,040 he sent a note it is that you have a standalone executive 1048 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:19,200 producer ship. So you have instead of executive producers 1049 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,200 and have a whole bunch of people, you have one standalone 1050 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,200 executive producer, and then another executive producers and 1051 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,220 a whole bunch of people, which 1052 01:02:26,220 --> 01:02:29,340 is not just not uncommon in Hollywood credits either. 1053 01:02:29,730 --> 01:02:33,660 Very common. The only problem this time is that we have no 1054 01:02:33,660 --> 01:02:36,510 other executive producer so you stand out. 1055 01:02:38,550 --> 01:02:40,080 You pick the bad day, my friend. 1056 01:02:41,460 --> 01:02:44,280 But that said, that's what that's what I 1057 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,880 can't wait to hear his notes. I mean, he clearly derived a lot 1058 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,190 of value from the show and I'd love to hear about it. 1059 01:02:50,550 --> 01:02:53,490 Yeah, he sent a note in a greetings from the Frozen 1060 01:02:53,490 --> 01:02:56,370 Traverse City, Michigan, which is funny. That's where Jason's 1061 01:02:56,370 --> 01:02:59,790 wife comes from Jesse. I have been a loyal listener since 1062 01:02:59,820 --> 01:03:05,880 episode 333. encloses my racist contribution of three fifths of 1063 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,670 a vie count according to the complex math that should make me 1064 01:03:08,670 --> 01:03:13,800 an Insta Baron. Why is it racist? Because it's additional 1065 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,100 three 1066 01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:19,200 slaves Okay, gotcha. Nice. There you go. That no agenda show 1067 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,700 taking racist donations. 1068 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,390 As the rule follower, I had my son's research peerage rules. 1069 01:03:27,540 --> 01:03:30,720 All their research revealed was there questions of why should be 1070 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,160 donating to people whose last names are a keyboard layout or a 1071 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,420 type of spice? 1072 01:03:39,030 --> 01:03:42,570 Usually, I appreciate that because usually is like an old 1073 01:03:42,570 --> 01:03:45,990 hack and a washed up Vijay. That's usually what people say 1074 01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:47,550 about our last names but yeah, 1075 01:03:49,140 --> 01:03:54,300 yeah. And the observation that a knighthood from the Queen would 1076 01:03:54,300 --> 01:03:58,440 be better. Oh, good news is they did agree to listen to this 1077 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,730 episode. I'd like to sign honorary titles of Sheriff and 1078 01:04:02,730 --> 01:04:09,630 magistrate to my sons, Alex and Eric. Done. Okay, it felt good 1079 01:04:09,630 --> 01:04:14,790 to have my son see see let's see a life lesson in integrity by 1080 01:04:15,090 --> 01:04:18,600 seeing me support your value for value model. I wrote a book on 1081 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,780 the subject of value for value but that's for another episode. 1082 01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:25,530 If they want to read it I want to read it now. I'm curious look 1083 01:04:25,530 --> 01:04:25,680 him 1084 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:30,150 up he's probably on go to Amazon Amazon. Look up bull burn. Yes. 1085 01:04:30,510 --> 01:04:35,550 if the rules allow I would like to be knighted. Sir James Bond 1086 01:04:35,550 --> 01:04:41,400 of episode one double oh seven. Nice. Overseeing the territory 1087 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:42,750 of North Korea. 1088 01:04:44,820 --> 01:04:47,520 Is that on my list of do I have to add this in manually? I think 1089 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,480 I have to add it in manually. 1090 01:04:49,470 --> 01:04:51,180 But North Korea No no, no, 1091 01:04:51,180 --> 01:04:56,820 this this title. Let me just see. Roger, what was what will 1092 01:04:56,820 --> 01:04:57,840 his name be again? 1093 01:04:58,140 --> 01:05:05,160 Sir James Bond of episode one double oh seven. Okay. Adam, 1094 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,850 please inform your uncle, he may begin dealing with me directly. 1095 01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:14,460 There has been recent cancer diagnosis for my sister and dad, 1096 01:05:14,820 --> 01:05:19,410 I would like to request some F cancer karma to reset the recent 1097 01:05:19,410 --> 01:05:22,470 bad luck for myself and my family. More demands from the 1098 01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:25,860 Barony later, maybe lunch in Austin or in some neutral 1099 01:05:25,860 --> 01:05:28,110 territory, obviously not California. 1100 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:34,050 I'm all in private meetup. And I want to I, this sounds like a 1101 01:05:34,050 --> 01:05:35,220 very interesting guy. 1102 01:05:35,610 --> 01:05:39,060 Yeah, he's got the value from he probably has some research that 1103 01:05:39,060 --> 01:05:41,640 we don't know. And we've done we have a lot of research that 1104 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,980 we've done to for our value for value model so we can make it 1105 01:05:43,980 --> 01:05:45,330 work even though it didn't work in this 1106 01:05:45,330 --> 01:05:51,090 show. Holy crap. This guy, this guy has written some books. It's 1107 01:05:51,090 --> 01:05:53,760 okay. Well, if this is the guy, let me see. 1108 01:05:54,570 --> 01:05:57,090 Yeah, probably she really depends on what the subject is. 1109 01:05:57,990 --> 01:06:00,030 Personal currency the future of money. 1110 01:06:02,490 --> 01:06:04,080 Could be that could be him. 1111 01:06:05,580 --> 01:06:09,630 See, I don't see anything. Well, maybe maybe that's maybe that's 1112 01:06:09,630 --> 01:06:12,990 in the maybe the value for value was in that book? 1113 01:06:13,529 --> 01:06:17,339 And is Roger, right. Yeah. Roger called unusual spelling. So it's 1114 01:06:17,339 --> 01:06:18,809 probably not too many people. 1115 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:25,200 Okay, well, good. I want to read his book. Fantastic. Thank you 1116 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,030 very much. So he needs F cancer karma. 1117 01:06:27,450 --> 01:06:28,380 Yep, right here. 1118 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,420 Got karma and thank you very much. I look forward to your 1119 01:06:36,420 --> 01:06:37,380 ceremony coming up. 1120 01:06:40,350 --> 01:06:45,180 This still okay, we got Morgan corkle Corkhill 250 bucks, 1121 01:06:45,180 --> 01:06:47,550 you'll be our Associate Executive Producer one of four 1122 01:06:48,180 --> 01:06:51,600 showed one double oh seven. This donation will cast me into a sea 1123 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:56,190 of Knighthood and in this cess pit of sensibility since since a 1124 01:06:56,220 --> 01:07:00,150 boldness sensible bonus, I wish to be referred to as Sir Captain 1125 01:07:00,150 --> 01:07:04,020 Morgan and requested Captain Morgan and morale morally 1126 01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:08,790 questionable women at the ceremony. I'm a bit behind in my 1127 01:07:08,790 --> 01:07:13,830 show watching. So are we because we don't watch the show but 1128 01:07:13,830 --> 01:07:17,070 okay, but heard something of a few shows ago and I was 1129 01:07:17,070 --> 01:07:20,130 wondering if anyone else heard it as I did. It was a short clip 1130 01:07:20,130 --> 01:07:25,830 where a vegan was talking about why a vegan would not eat 1131 01:07:25,830 --> 01:07:30,450 cheese. He said it was cow rape. Yes. And the farmer would stick 1132 01:07:30,450 --> 01:07:34,440 his hand up to cow's ass and fertilize the cows. Not sure 1133 01:07:34,890 --> 01:07:37,800 about this, but I think he got it wrong. I got the wrong whole. 1134 01:07:38,730 --> 01:07:42,180 Guess he can't be blamed for being malnourished by the vegan 1135 01:07:42,180 --> 01:07:45,360 diet. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you don't stick it up the cow's ass. 1136 01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:50,580 That's funny. technicality didn't catch that. 1137 01:07:50,610 --> 01:07:54,180 No, it's Well, I I wasn't really thinking about it that deeply. 1138 01:07:56,370 --> 01:07:59,310 You know, Jay was no nothing, I 1139 01:07:59,310 --> 01:08:02,730 guess. Oh, so he wants Captain Morgans. And what else does he 1140 01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:03,210 want? 1141 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:08,340 Questionable women with questionable morals. With good 1142 01:08:08,340 --> 01:08:11,130 moral women. Make it easier or suitable. 1143 01:08:11,310 --> 01:08:13,980 Oh, this is happening again. Dammit. 1144 01:08:14,549 --> 01:08:18,419 But your thing's going out again. Yeah. I think you better 1145 01:08:18,419 --> 01:08:19,589 have your tubes checked. 1146 01:08:20,250 --> 01:08:24,630 Well, what happens is you just stopped tape. No, I haven't 1147 01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:28,380 stopped tape. I can You can continue while i is just the 1148 01:08:28,380 --> 01:08:32,130 jingles will be problematic. It's just USB is rebooting or 1149 01:08:32,130 --> 01:08:33,960 something. I don't know. Windows. 1150 01:08:35,730 --> 01:08:37,860 J Well, you're the one that went over there. You know those 1151 01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:41,010 dapple guys would love to take you back. Jamie Christiansen and 1152 01:08:41,010 --> 01:08:47,370 Johnston, New York. 20 $14.63. And he sends a note in by email. 1153 01:08:48,180 --> 01:08:49,950 Oh, and by the way, here's the jingles. You're gonna have to 1154 01:08:49,950 --> 01:08:54,360 queue up. Slaves can eat mac and cheese living in the mac and 1155 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,720 cheese life. We and a goat farmer 1156 01:08:57,779 --> 01:09:02,639 I have a feeling you missed a whole bunch of Morgan Corkhill 1157 01:09:02,639 --> 01:09:05,789 jingles if I'm not mistaken. Oh, I don't want to come up on my 1158 01:09:05,789 --> 01:09:09,209 screen. Well, it's in the in it's on the thing. 1159 01:09:10,260 --> 01:09:12,930 Not on mine. I'm clicking on it trying to expand. It's been a 1160 01:09:12,930 --> 01:09:13,170 couple 1161 01:09:13,170 --> 01:09:16,140 of years since my last donation so I think I deserve de douching 1162 01:09:16,140 --> 01:09:19,050 we'll let you decide. I also humbly request Donald loves 1163 01:09:19,050 --> 01:09:22,110 Nazis as it totally cracks me up and karma if you want to. 1164 01:09:23,130 --> 01:09:26,370 I can't bring that up. Well, hold on. Let me try something 1165 01:09:26,370 --> 01:09:30,600 here. We go into the file and go into nope, nope, nope, nope. 1166 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:35,130 Nope, will not will not expand. And I'm using the new Microsoft 1167 01:09:35,130 --> 01:09:35,700 Excel. 1168 01:09:36,210 --> 01:09:39,150 Well, you've really got to work on that because this has been a 1169 01:09:39,150 --> 01:09:41,070 problem for about five years. 1170 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,680 I just don't think I could do if it wasn't what am I supposed to 1171 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:44,910 do? What am I supposed to do? 1172 01:09:44,940 --> 01:09:47,910 I don't know why why how do I have no problem seeing the 1173 01:09:47,910 --> 01:09:49,080 spreadsheet ever? 1174 01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:55,650 The I have no idea. I looking at it now. I can't get it. I don't 1175 01:09:55,710 --> 01:09:56,970 dance with vegan diet. 1176 01:09:57,660 --> 01:09:59,160 Well, let me give him his D douching. 1177 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:09,390 As Ben de deuced Donald loves Nazis. Donald loves Nazis. CNN 1178 01:10:09,390 --> 01:10:13,560 say that he's PKK having shot sic hell with it. Wow. 1179 01:10:15,599 --> 01:10:17,279 You've got karma. 1180 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,200 Now, you're there to back it up. So not worried about that. What 1181 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:23,850 were these other jingles for the next one. 1182 01:10:24,540 --> 01:10:28,260 The next one is our slaves can eat mac and cheese. Live in the 1183 01:10:28,260 --> 01:10:33,000 mac and cheese life. We and the goat scream karma. 1184 01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:37,410 Okay. Was there any other note to 1185 01:10:37,410 --> 01:10:40,290 it? Yes, I got a whole note here. Okay, go for it. Just 1186 01:10:40,290 --> 01:10:44,550 giving you the jingles up front like you want. For Mr. Jamie of 1187 01:10:44,550 --> 01:10:47,820 the highway rolling through paradox New York ITM Jensen's, 1188 01:10:47,820 --> 01:10:51,840 I'm over. I'm in over the road truck driver who has been 1189 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,290 listening for nearly five years and only now am I financially 1190 01:10:55,290 --> 01:10:59,100 able to support the best podcast in the universe. This donation 1191 01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:06,600 of 20 $14.63 represents my birthdate. So two to 14. We had 1192 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,800 to put her on the birthday last Yes. Even though she requested 1193 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,580 for this, which has to do to 14 requests, my birth date and 1194 01:11:14,580 --> 01:11:19,290 celebration of completing 55 trips around the sun. this 1195 01:11:19,290 --> 01:11:25,680 coming Wednesday. Wow. Wow, that's a lot of driving. Do you 1196 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:30,120 think about it? For jingles I'd like a double helping a Mac. I 1197 01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,000 guess if you're driving cross country and you're cross country 1198 01:11:33,150 --> 01:11:37,710 and you just constantly on the road. You put a lot of miles up 1199 01:11:38,250 --> 01:11:43,500 55 nautical miles to do five trips around the sun. Virginia 1200 01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:47,520 was like a double helping of mac and cheese. We and some good DX 1201 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,330 karma for all the hams out there. All righty she's a she's 1202 01:11:51,330 --> 01:11:51,870 a ham. 1203 01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:53,550 Oh, what's your what's your call sign? 1204 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:59,970 I'm looking at here she's an avid she's a while. Yeah, while 1205 01:11:59,970 --> 01:12:01,710 73 for Miss Jamie 1206 01:12:01,710 --> 01:12:04,440 73 Alpha Charlie Charlie. 1207 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:08,580 No, here it is November three echo Oscar Papa mobile. All 1208 01:12:08,580 --> 01:12:13,380 right. Your slaves get used to Macintosh Macintosh mac and 1209 01:12:13,380 --> 01:12:17,730 cheese macaroni and cheese shatter melted together mac and 1210 01:12:17,730 --> 01:12:19,950 cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese. 1211 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:34,740 Mac and cheese mac and cheese by ein Rand. You've got karma okay. 1212 01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:40,770 Next, Charles Schultz came in as a check in Madison, Alabama. And 1213 01:12:40,770 --> 01:12:44,850 there is an email that came in transcript transparently and in 1214 01:12:44,850 --> 01:12:48,180 parallel. I just scheduled a bank check to be sent to your 1215 01:12:48,180 --> 01:12:51,780 post office boxes represents 10% of my first Social Security 1216 01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:56,580 quote unquote check. Like a good Slave I waited till my full 1217 01:12:56,580 --> 01:13:00,000 retirement age to claim my Social Security benefit. So I 1218 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,730 can continue to work full time and collect my entitlement 1219 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,210 without a reduction in the payment. I guess I consider it a 1220 01:13:06,210 --> 01:13:10,770 phased retirement since I'll be able to since I'll be able to 1221 01:13:10,770 --> 01:13:14,940 back off on the amount of overtime and the side hustles 1222 01:13:14,940 --> 01:13:18,540 I've been working for years. This payment to the show is long 1223 01:13:18,540 --> 01:13:22,050 overdue since Pay Pal randomly killed off my $5 per month 1224 01:13:22,170 --> 01:13:29,760 payment years ago. Please de douche me. You've been de deuced 1225 01:13:30,540 --> 01:13:32,850 and a dose of karma wouldn't help he says 1226 01:13:33,629 --> 01:13:36,089 Okay, anything else would just go for the karma that's it. 1227 01:13:36,779 --> 01:13:37,679 Otherwise they would have read through 1228 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:43,650 your you've got karma. And that's Chuck Schultz cave for CA 1229 01:13:43,650 --> 01:13:48,060 Why 70 threes? We have a lot of ham hams baby it's the hams You 1230 01:13:48,060 --> 01:13:56,580 betcha the hams are saving the show. Edie love booty Yay 200 1231 01:13:56,580 --> 01:14:00,300 bucks and is appears to be no jingles no comment but he does 1232 01:14:00,300 --> 01:14:05,280 say Be My Valentine. Ah. Now we did have a special offer that 1233 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,190 nobody took up on which is to get your name in the newsletter 1234 01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:12,690 is calling out your partner lover wife, husband, whatever. 1235 01:14:13,650 --> 01:14:17,910 For as as your Valentine. And nobody picked up on this and I 1236 01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:20,820 thought about this. Because it was like I thought it was a good 1237 01:14:20,820 --> 01:14:24,450 idea. It was a good gimmick people give 200 This and that is 1238 01:14:24,450 --> 01:14:27,810 not like completely outrageous. I'm going to reintroduce it 1239 01:14:27,810 --> 01:14:30,000 again on Tuesday before Wednesday, but I don't know if 1240 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:34,080 it's going to help. I concluded that it was my write up on the 1241 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,430 newsletter. That was the problem. Okay, what happened? I 1242 01:14:38,430 --> 01:14:42,540 think it was confusing. Poorly sold. I think it was done 1243 01:14:42,540 --> 01:14:44,880 poorly. I should have put more of the information at the top 1244 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,870 not not after explaining the whole damn thing. It was very 1245 01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:51,750 poorly done. I think people who like to study the newsletter for 1246 01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:54,930 its sales attributes because there's a sales pitch in there 1247 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,250 every newsletter, but sometimes it's strong sometimes it's weak 1248 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,970 and See how poorly then this was it was just poorly done it was 1249 01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:06,390 reminded me of the more recent poorly done newsletter where I 1250 01:15:06,390 --> 01:15:10,620 confused people about the double your you know, you get to 1251 01:15:10,650 --> 01:15:13,890 executive producer credits and some people including the chef's 1252 01:15:14,340 --> 01:15:15,060 thought that it 1253 01:15:15,060 --> 01:15:18,540 might get me out there was all kinds of crap with that. Yeah, 1254 01:15:18,930 --> 01:15:21,240 so I'm now I'm concerned. Yes. 1255 01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:25,740 I know you took a beat 12 this morning, so that can't be it. 1256 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,760 I don't know. They just had me losing my time. Have 1257 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,800 you been socializing with the strange people? 1258 01:15:32,580 --> 01:15:35,520 Well, I socialize with the two liberals that are just mine. 1259 01:15:35,700 --> 01:15:38,700 Yeah, well if you're if you're if you're flame texting with 1260 01:15:38,700 --> 01:15:42,360 them that kind of thrown your game off man. 1261 01:15:43,050 --> 01:15:47,130 Trying to think that I do that before after the note. See, I 1262 01:15:47,130 --> 01:15:49,950 don't know I did. Well, I don't have a timeline. So I don't 1263 01:15:49,950 --> 01:15:53,280 know. Well, I knew I feel disappointed. Yeah, nobody 1264 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,070 cares. You know, but didn't know of apparently nobody has any 1265 01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:57,420 love in their life if they wanted it. 1266 01:15:57,450 --> 01:16:01,110 I personally although Yeah, the newsletter I thought was a bit 1267 01:16:01,110 --> 01:16:01,560 weak. 1268 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:06,240 Thank you. So it was a good idea. You said this was a very 1269 01:16:06,660 --> 01:16:10,530 it was a good idea. But yeah, when I when I saw it come 1270 01:16:10,530 --> 01:16:13,020 through you know because I only get the text beforehand. I don't 1271 01:16:13,020 --> 01:16:17,550 get the full the full thing. So maybe it was laid out but I 1272 01:16:17,550 --> 01:16:21,660 think the issue is last puts that we need to ride on 1273 01:16:21,690 --> 01:16:25,170 something like a Valentine's Day. You know, we need the 1274 01:16:25,170 --> 01:16:30,330 mainstream to kind of that is a way we can ride and they don't 1275 01:16:30,330 --> 01:16:34,320 really crank it up until until tomorrow. And you know it's it's 1276 01:16:34,350 --> 01:16:38,100 no one's thinking really about Valentine's Day yet. On Saturday 1277 01:16:38,130 --> 01:16:39,720 when the newsletter comes out. Maybe 1278 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,060 you might be right but it's Valentine's Day is Wednesday and 1279 01:16:42,060 --> 01:16:45,630 our next shows on Thursday in the no no but you know I think 1280 01:16:45,630 --> 01:16:48,450 it's a maybe it's a kids thing you know, you know Valentine's 1281 01:16:48,450 --> 01:16:50,850 Day you can select a little boy you know, if you're a girl, 1282 01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:53,400 little girl, you shouldn't get a Valentine from her. She feels 1283 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:53,790 bad. 1284 01:16:53,820 --> 01:16:58,290 It was a year old man's job, but still. Yo man's job. Yo, man. 1285 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,540 Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, man, Yo, man. 1286 01:17:01,710 --> 01:17:06,240 Well, anyway, I feel the was like a fail customer. Hashtag 1287 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,180 fail. But you have some funny pictures in there, including 1288 01:17:09,180 --> 01:17:12,840 that one from Saudi Arabia. And I want to mention since since 1289 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,750 that was I put a little note at the bottom saying Can anyone 1290 01:17:15,750 --> 01:17:19,350 verify this and somebody indeed verified it that that is legit. 1291 01:17:20,130 --> 01:17:24,270 That in McDonald's? In Saudi Arabia, women are allowed. 1292 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,630 Please, no women? No women in the 1293 01:17:27,630 --> 01:17:28,530 McDonald's bet 1294 01:17:28,530 --> 01:17:31,650 your 10 bucks your your service dog can go in but no women? 1295 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:37,950 Yeah. Well, this is a part of our this is our value for value 1296 01:17:37,950 --> 01:17:42,240 model, which works reasonably well. And the idea that you can 1297 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,910 monetize the network is something I've said is just 1298 01:17:44,910 --> 01:17:48,390 really not possible. And boy, in a prom in our second donation 1299 01:17:48,390 --> 01:17:51,990 segment, we should talk about it. Well, maybe we should do it 1300 01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:52,740 in the second one. 1301 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,320 Well, we should do a little bit but I want to make sure that if 1302 01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,660 you put a note down, we have to talk about the Newsweek 1303 01:17:57,660 --> 01:17:58,470 situation. That's 1304 01:17:58,470 --> 01:18:00,360 what I'm going to talk about in the second segment. That's 1305 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:04,620 exactly what I said. I'm not a psychic. I can read your mind as 1306 01:18:04,650 --> 01:18:05,250 well, since you 1307 01:18:05,250 --> 01:18:07,740 and I had an email thing about it. I figured maybe you'd be 1308 01:18:07,740 --> 01:18:08,340 psychic. 1309 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,810 Yeah, well, not that I can remember doing that. So 1310 01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:15,960 but but I do want to know because we have all these 1311 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:21,240 interesting things like karma, F cancer, karma, jobs, karma. And 1312 01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,670 there's something about the the no agenda community and the 1313 01:18:23,670 --> 01:18:27,930 value for value model that struck me really hard. While 1314 01:18:27,930 --> 01:18:31,170 reading this book by a guy named Joe Han Hari, it's called Lost 1315 01:18:31,170 --> 01:18:34,860 connections, uncovering the real causes of depression and the 1316 01:18:34,860 --> 01:18:38,490 unexpected solutions. This is a fascinating book, which you get 1317 01:18:38,490 --> 01:18:41,220 pressed? No. Which are you? 1318 01:18:41,670 --> 01:18:42,600 No, no, be 1319 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,410 sure because you you do exhibit some of the symptoms. So yeah, 1320 01:18:46,410 --> 01:18:50,490 like what? Well, look, if you read the book, and I will 1321 01:18:50,490 --> 01:18:52,770 definitely I want to tell you a little bit about it. Because 1322 01:18:52,770 --> 01:18:55,890 what this guy gave me a summary. If you stop interrupting me, I 1323 01:18:55,890 --> 01:19:01,770 shall good. This guy went to as many researchers who had done 1324 01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:04,290 studies about depression as you could because he had suffered 1325 01:19:04,290 --> 01:19:07,920 from depression. And what he found as and this is why he 1326 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,760 wrote this book, is it's no surprise to us in the no agenda 1327 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:16,200 thinking that SSRIs you know, these are the, the serotonin 1328 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:20,190 inhibitors. This is all the is it Prozac as an SSRI as well, 1329 01:19:20,430 --> 01:19:23,760 was that the belief so mack daddy of them all. But all these 1330 01:19:23,790 --> 01:19:27,960 all these different medications? If you if you do the FOIA 1331 01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,600 requests, and you really see the studies, of course, you know, 1332 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:35,760 there's 500 500 studies, studies 498 are not published, although 1333 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,180 they do have to give them to the FDA. But the two successful ones 1334 01:19:39,180 --> 01:19:42,150 that say, oh, you know, people who have depression the best, 1335 01:19:42,180 --> 01:19:46,110 it's it works, it's perfect, and then it gets on the market. And 1336 01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:49,620 there's a lot of studies that found this, there'll be no 1337 01:19:49,620 --> 01:19:55,320 surprise that it really, you know, people are given a placebo 1338 01:19:55,350 --> 01:19:58,290 don't see much less of an improvement over people who 1339 01:19:58,290 --> 01:20:02,340 receive the drug. I mean, really like, like 1%, it's really, 1340 01:20:02,340 --> 01:20:06,630 really low. And the story and this is this is what fascinated 1341 01:20:06,630 --> 01:20:10,110 me is that he had been roped into SSRIs, which he wound up 1342 01:20:10,110 --> 01:20:15,810 taking for 14 years, the story is that you have a chemical 1343 01:20:15,810 --> 01:20:19,170 imbalance in your brain. And that's how they've been sold. 1344 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:23,700 Although I didn't know this, there is zero study anywhere 1345 01:20:23,700 --> 01:20:26,880 that says, depression comes from a chemical imbalance in the 1346 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,390 brain. If you look at someone who's depressed, you do a scan, 1347 01:20:30,450 --> 01:20:32,190 you're gonna see something different than someone who is 1348 01:20:32,190 --> 01:20:38,490 not depressed. But that is a symptom, not the cause. So he 1349 01:20:38,490 --> 01:20:41,160 went back to try and find out what is really the cause of 1350 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,500 depression. And it's a whole bunch of things that very 1351 01:20:43,530 --> 01:20:47,130 obvious, but no one has ever stopped to ask people, why are 1352 01:20:47,130 --> 01:20:50,310 you depressed? Are you depressed, this SSRI will help 1353 01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:53,520 you, which it does temporarily takes away a little bit of that 1354 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,180 feeling. But then, you know, the depression creeps up, they upped 1355 01:20:57,180 --> 01:20:59,880 the dosage. And that's how you just stay on the ladder for the 1356 01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,700 rest of your life until it ends up usually it winds out pretty 1357 01:21:02,700 --> 01:21:07,260 badly for people. But as he goes through it, it turns out that a 1358 01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:10,650 lot of depression comes from the lifestyle that we have today. 1359 01:21:11,250 --> 01:21:16,590 And what humans apparently really need is connection. And 1360 01:21:16,620 --> 01:21:20,340 social media plays right into this. But it's really, it's 1361 01:21:20,340 --> 01:21:26,070 fake. It's not a real, it's not a real connection. Which it does 1362 01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:30,090 gives people incredible endorphins, and all the stuff, 1363 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,570 all the stuff, you need to feel very happy when you're part of a 1364 01:21:33,570 --> 01:21:36,690 community like the no agenda community. But it only works. 1365 01:21:36,690 --> 01:21:38,460 And this is why I bring this up. And I'm sure we'll be talking 1366 01:21:38,460 --> 01:21:41,520 about this book more in the future. It only works if you 1367 01:21:41,610 --> 01:21:46,830 also have in person contact. We are built for it. We're geared 1368 01:21:46,830 --> 01:21:50,760 for it, it's necessary. And I am committing now we've talked 1369 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:56,100 about this, but I am committing to do meetups regularly. And it 1370 01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:59,340 shows that the no agenda community do meetups without us, 1371 01:21:59,700 --> 01:22:04,800 they get together because they need it. We all need it. So bear 1372 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:05,190 that isn't 1373 01:22:05,190 --> 01:22:07,560 good meetups is a good meters because you have people that 1374 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:12,420 have been kind of broken away from the pack. 1375 01:22:12,810 --> 01:22:17,730 Totally, and who are who are either healthy or desperately 1376 01:22:17,730 --> 01:22:21,300 want to be healthy. Because today's life is anything. But 1377 01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:24,120 again, this book, it's just really nicely worded. There's 1378 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,690 nothing that we don't know of, because obviously advertising is 1379 01:22:27,690 --> 01:22:30,000 geared to let you know that you're a loser. Unless you drink 1380 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,250 this beer you'll never get laid. If you don't have that car, 1381 01:22:32,250 --> 01:22:35,880 you're just a dumb shit. These days, they even make the men 1382 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,570 look like dumb shits in the commercials on purpose. So it's 1383 01:22:39,570 --> 01:22:43,320 meant to scare you into it. And if you are human, and this is a 1384 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,730 big thing that really hit me. If you're in a job that doesn't 1385 01:22:47,730 --> 01:22:50,880 really do anything for you doesn't excite you is just a job 1386 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:52,950 to make money, you're gonna get depressed if you aren't 1387 01:22:52,980 --> 01:22:54,030 depressed already. 1388 01:22:54,420 --> 01:22:57,870 And now if you like making money, well, people 1389 01:22:57,870 --> 01:23:00,930 who like making money are the most depressed. Well, they are 1390 01:23:00,930 --> 01:23:04,170 the most they are the most depressed because you cannot 1391 01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,220 trick your human psyche into feeling happy just because you 1392 01:23:08,220 --> 01:23:11,010 made more money. That's the materialistic ego and it doesn't 1393 01:23:11,010 --> 01:23:16,470 work. But anyway, meet up coming in Austin very soon. So Texas 1394 01:23:16,470 --> 01:23:20,100 and all surrounding states. Be ready because not only do you 1395 01:23:20,100 --> 01:23:23,400 need it, I need it too. So we need some personal connection. 1396 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,290 And you're going out for more meetups to John. 1397 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,500 Yeah, I got a berry meetup coming up, probably do another 1398 01:23:28,500 --> 01:23:31,050 one in LA. Like to do a Seattle meetup. 1399 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,140 We have an idea to and I asked you to pick a date, which you 1400 01:23:34,140 --> 01:23:37,830 haven't done yet. We'll pick a date. We're going to do a meet 1401 01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:41,550 up in Austin. And we're going to connect that meet up with your 1402 01:23:41,550 --> 01:23:44,820 Meetup. So we'll do it on the same day, more or less the same 1403 01:23:44,820 --> 01:23:45,480 time dudes 1404 01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:48,150 name band, and we're gonna play some big screens and have two 1405 01:23:48,300 --> 01:23:50,580 cameras on each meetup and you'll be kind of a joint 1406 01:23:50,580 --> 01:23:51,210 meetup. Yeah. 1407 01:23:51,540 --> 01:23:55,980 Yeah. And we could even do more if we wanted. Like, what? Well, 1408 01:23:55,980 --> 01:23:59,550 we can have more people with their meetups connecting Oh, 1409 01:23:59,580 --> 01:24:03,420 yeah, maybe? Well, let's do the one first, and then we can start 1410 01:24:03,420 --> 01:24:06,300 it. I started with that. If we even get that done. Anyway, the 1411 01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:06,600 book is 1412 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,260 called Lost connections. It's, it's on Kindle. I think. 1413 01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:14,460 It's like it's condemning the social media, if 1414 01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:19,800 that's part of what it does. But when you read this, I realized 1415 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,400 once again, it's no wonder I love my job, because it doesn't 1416 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,310 feel like a job. And as long as I can pay the rent and eat, I 1417 01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:33,030 really don't care. I know you may feel differently. You may be 1418 01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:33,930 a little more depressed 1419 01:24:34,019 --> 01:24:36,569 than me. Why not? I'm not depressed. Why would you say I'm 1420 01:24:36,569 --> 01:24:41,309 depressed? Do I sound depressed? Do I sound depressed? Once you 1421 01:24:41,309 --> 01:24:44,219 wrap this because if you do mention eating, I have a whole I 1422 01:24:44,219 --> 01:24:45,539 have three clips on eating. 1423 01:24:45,780 --> 01:24:48,270 I would like to thank everybody who came in today as an 1424 01:24:48,510 --> 01:24:52,110 Associate Executive Producer and our instant Baron big executive 1425 01:24:52,110 --> 01:24:55,680 producer, single standing line we will be thinking more people 1426 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,350 and talking more about advertising, which doesn't seem 1427 01:24:58,350 --> 01:25:00,960 to work as well versus our modeling. In our second segment, 1428 01:25:01,170 --> 01:25:04,560 and please remember another show coming up on Thursday. VO 1429 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:09,900 req.org/n A and you have four days in the meantime to go out 1430 01:25:09,900 --> 01:25:12,450 there talk to everybody propagate the formula. Our 1431 01:25:12,450 --> 01:25:31,680 formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth all right. 1432 01:25:32,970 --> 01:25:37,260 That was woman it was on C span I'm looking for stuff that you 1433 01:25:37,290 --> 01:25:39,960 once while you get the book TV is very interesting on C span 1434 01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,930 because you get these authors, and they pretty much give you 1435 01:25:42,930 --> 01:25:46,440 the book. I mean, this they summarize their own book and 1436 01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:49,350 it's like very interesting. So this woman comes on I didn't I 1437 01:25:49,380 --> 01:25:52,560 wasn't planning on watching this. I just caught it. And 1438 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,860 she's reading from her book on eating and her name is Rebecca 1439 01:25:55,860 --> 01:26:04,080 hearse hertz, he r z and she is an expert on eating. And I'm 1440 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,050 gonna just play get three clips to play one is this the end of 1441 01:26:07,050 --> 01:26:09,360 her reading about the book where she got a round of applause and 1442 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,510 she says reading from her book is not as entertaining but as 1443 01:26:12,690 --> 01:26:18,600 she's talking about how you can use smells. To do dieting, by if 1444 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,730 you're getting like an urge to eat or you're really hungry or 1445 01:26:20,730 --> 01:26:23,100 something you tick you smell something that has nothing to do 1446 01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:29,820 with food, like crayons or she'd like to use methyl acetate 1447 01:26:29,820 --> 01:26:30,600 personally always 1448 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,720 so that can deter you from eating or or make you eat or 1449 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:34,500 either way No, no, 1450 01:26:34,530 --> 01:26:38,490 that deters you in vanilla makes you eat more if you smell that, 1451 01:26:38,970 --> 01:26:42,510 uh, but generally speaking, smelling something that's not 1452 01:26:42,510 --> 01:26:47,610 food related, that is memorable smell will take your brain and 1453 01:26:47,610 --> 01:26:50,400 scrambles it is not on a yoga and when we think about this, 1454 01:26:50,460 --> 01:26:53,910 you'd lose your appetite. Oh interesting. It's too short. It 1455 01:26:53,910 --> 01:26:56,400 doesn't last forever, but it's something you can do to trick 1456 01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:00,270 yourself into not eating when you get the munchies. So that's 1457 01:27:00,270 --> 01:27:03,750 the this is the this clip is hertz this is her summary 1458 01:27:03,750 --> 01:27:05,520 reading from the book and that gets interesting. 1459 01:27:07,050 --> 01:27:10,110 Odors trigger our most emotional and evocative memories. 1460 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,320 Therefore the most effective way to use them as a diet aide is to 1461 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,410 find an aroma or several which not only distracts you from 1462 01:27:16,410 --> 01:27:19,620 thoughts of donuts, but triggers personal memories potent enough 1463 01:27:19,620 --> 01:27:21,900 to disrupt what you were thinking about donuts or 1464 01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:26,040 otherwise. aromas that take you want to trip down memory lane or 1465 01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,380 transport you back to a moment when you are especially 1466 01:27:28,380 --> 01:27:31,890 fulfilled or inspire you with feelings of confidence can rent 1467 01:27:31,890 --> 01:27:34,530 you from your cravings while also delivering a punch of 1468 01:27:34,530 --> 01:27:37,620 positive emotion that may give you the fortitude to move beyond 1469 01:27:37,620 --> 01:27:41,670 your unbidden food desires. The key is to find the aromas that 1470 01:27:41,670 --> 01:27:45,540 are a particularly evocative for you. As due to our unique 1471 01:27:45,540 --> 01:27:48,780 experiences the sense connected to the most motivating memories 1472 01:27:48,780 --> 01:27:52,500 are different for everyone. Once you found aromas that carry you 1473 01:27:52,500 --> 01:27:55,530 to special moments in time, or uplift you with invigorating 1474 01:27:55,530 --> 01:27:58,410 emotions, try inhaling one when a craving that you want to 1475 01:27:58,410 --> 01:28:02,460 dispel hits, even after the intensity of the memory and 1476 01:28:02,460 --> 01:28:05,850 feeling fades. Now that you've reoriented yourself mentally, 1477 01:28:06,030 --> 01:28:08,850 you're craving should be diminished, so that you can get 1478 01:28:08,850 --> 01:28:10,770 on with what you were doing without succumbing to 1479 01:28:10,770 --> 01:28:15,000 temptation, at least for a little while. odors and tastes 1480 01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:18,180 are extremely powerful sensory forces, and they guide and in 1481 01:28:18,180 --> 01:28:20,940 shape our experiences with food and life in a multitude of 1482 01:28:20,940 --> 01:28:24,270 extraordinary ways. But there are also many other sensory and 1483 01:28:24,270 --> 01:28:27,480 psychological factors that play a pivotal role in whether we 1484 01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:31,110 reach for a burger or a banana and how much we eat when we do 1485 01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:35,490 know that sounds plausible? Yeah, the author she's the book 1486 01:28:35,490 --> 01:28:39,840 of the book is why you eat what you eat. And she is very 1487 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:40,230 interesting. 1488 01:28:40,470 --> 01:28:43,560 I have the munchies. That's why I know 1489 01:28:43,890 --> 01:28:47,520 so but when the question and answers came up, it became I 1490 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:52,650 thought a lot more fascinating because there was more specifics 1491 01:28:52,650 --> 01:28:55,560 and she talked about some research. So let's I have two 1492 01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,980 more clips and this is the one this is the loud noises and 1493 01:28:58,980 --> 01:29:00,510 sweet flavors clip 1494 01:29:01,140 --> 01:29:04,020 their giant oven somewhere that are invisible but in fact there 1495 01:29:04,020 --> 01:29:07,920 aren't so actually Cinnabon is a classic example. Their aroma 1496 01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,010 cinnamon is extremely intense and alluring. And there's no one 1497 01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:15,000 baking cinnamon buns anywhere nearby. And a bunch of coffee 1498 01:29:15,060 --> 01:29:18,690 establishments often will do the same kind of tricks, restaurants 1499 01:29:18,690 --> 01:29:21,630 as well. If there's like an Italian restaurant, often 1500 01:29:21,630 --> 01:29:24,630 they'll pipe out sort of garlicky aromas. And this is to 1501 01:29:24,630 --> 01:29:27,630 lure people in by their noses. Because often even when we're 1502 01:29:27,630 --> 01:29:29,790 not hungry, if we smell something that's really 1503 01:29:29,790 --> 01:29:32,790 appetizing, it will not only make us want to eat but make us 1504 01:29:32,790 --> 01:29:36,900 want to eat that specific food. So yes, there is food marketing 1505 01:29:36,930 --> 01:29:41,400 in that way that's being done. And to a certain extent. There's 1506 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,800 also things that restaurants I think, don't realize that 1507 01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,470 they're doing which have counterproductive effects on 1508 01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:49,320 eating especially the more expensive restaurants and trendy 1509 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,710 restaurants which is playing really loud music. And even 1510 01:29:52,710 --> 01:29:55,860 though that might be cool, that actually has a detrimental 1511 01:29:55,860 --> 01:29:59,130 effect on your experience of eating for two reasons. One 1512 01:29:59,130 --> 01:30:02,310 because really Loud music and especially really fast music 1513 01:30:02,340 --> 01:30:04,830 makes you eat more quickly, it makes you want to leave more 1514 01:30:04,830 --> 01:30:08,070 quickly so that you're not, you know, getting the full enjoyment 1515 01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:11,130 of the meal. And another thing actually has to do with the fact 1516 01:30:11,130 --> 01:30:15,030 that loud noise, in fact, influences our ability to taste. 1517 01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,720 And this is why on airplanes, food never tastes very good even 1518 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,110 when you're in first class. And that's because out loud ambient 1519 01:30:22,110 --> 01:30:26,520 noise actually affects the one of the cranial nerves that's 1520 01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,730 involved in our ability to taste foods. So the chorda tympani 1521 01:30:29,730 --> 01:30:32,280 nerve, which is the cranial nerve involved in hearing is 1522 01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,340 actually also involved in taste perception, and really loud 1523 01:30:35,340 --> 01:30:39,630 noise which is activating that has a dampening effect on sweet 1524 01:30:39,630 --> 01:30:43,740 taste and salty taste to taste that we'd like a lot. So you 1525 01:30:43,740 --> 01:30:46,860 know, whatever you're eating, when it's really loud, like the 1526 01:30:46,860 --> 01:30:50,070 80 to 90 decibel rumble on an aeroplane is going to taste less 1527 01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:53,160 sweet and less salty, and so less good. It doesn't however, 1528 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,130 affect bitterness. So the grapefruit that you get in your 1529 01:30:56,130 --> 01:31:00,180 morning transcontinental flight is, is really bitter and doesn't 1530 01:31:00,180 --> 01:31:02,370 have any of the sweetness or doesn't have as much of the 1531 01:31:02,370 --> 01:31:05,670 sweetness as you would have gotten otherwise. So loud noise 1532 01:31:05,670 --> 01:31:08,070 and restaurants. Like I said, even I don't think restaurants 1533 01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:11,580 realize this has a detrimental impact on diners experiences. 1534 01:31:11,850 --> 01:31:15,390 I didn't know that. I didn't know it either. But it makes 1535 01:31:15,390 --> 01:31:20,400 sense when the way she explains it. Yeah. And I've always found 1536 01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:24,150 that really loud places, I don't like to go there. I don't like 1537 01:31:24,150 --> 01:31:26,820 to go to loud memory restaurants that are so loud, you can hear 1538 01:31:26,820 --> 01:31:29,100 the other person talk. Yeah, 1539 01:31:29,130 --> 01:31:32,190 we went to when we were in Chicago over Christmas, he went 1540 01:31:32,190 --> 01:31:35,790 to a steak house and the music was just a little too loud. And 1541 01:31:35,790 --> 01:31:41,910 then, and it was also kind of 70s 80s music, which is odd for 1542 01:31:41,910 --> 01:31:45,690 this type of place. And it detract from the experience for 1543 01:31:45,690 --> 01:31:46,050 sure. 1544 01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:50,220 Ya know what they're thinking. And here's the last one, which I 1545 01:31:50,220 --> 01:31:52,920 thought was another thing that we should all note. 1546 01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:57,390 Are there like different patterns or desires? With food 1547 01:31:57,390 --> 01:31:59,880 intake? If you were like, say eating alone, or eating like at 1548 01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:01,680 the dinner table with a group of people, and you're in a 1549 01:32:01,860 --> 01:32:03,720 speaker's conversation or something like that? 1550 01:32:03,750 --> 01:32:06,990 Yeah, absolutely. In fact, the number of people you with 1551 01:32:07,020 --> 01:32:11,400 exponentially influences how much you consume. And so eating 1552 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,460 with just one other person increases, how much one eat if 1553 01:32:14,460 --> 01:32:16,920 you're eating with six other people, it's much, much more 1554 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,410 than that. Even eating with strangers makes you eat more 1555 01:32:19,410 --> 01:32:21,660 than when you're by yourself, although not to the same extent. 1556 01:32:22,020 --> 01:32:24,570 And there's another factor which you also mentioned in your 1557 01:32:24,570 --> 01:32:26,760 question, which is that what you're doing with those other 1558 01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:30,450 people talking vigorously, being excited, and if you're 1559 01:32:30,450 --> 01:32:32,820 especially if it's something that you're celebrating, that 1560 01:32:32,820 --> 01:32:36,060 also encourages more eating, and if food is also in front of you 1561 01:32:36,060 --> 01:32:39,570 for longer than you, you know, Keep on reaching into it. And 1562 01:32:39,570 --> 01:32:43,470 another really interesting thing is if you don't see the discard 1563 01:32:43,470 --> 01:32:46,590 from your food, so let's say you went to a bar with your friends 1564 01:32:46,590 --> 01:32:50,070 after a softball game, and you're ordering nachos and 1565 01:32:50,070 --> 01:32:53,220 chicken wings, and this and that. And the server is 1566 01:32:53,220 --> 01:32:56,580 continuously clearing the table so that you don't see how much 1567 01:32:56,580 --> 01:32:59,220 you've consumed. You'll keep ordering, you know, another 1568 01:32:59,220 --> 01:33:02,610 round or chicken wings over here. If you see the bones 1569 01:33:02,610 --> 01:33:06,600 piling, you're more likely to say, Oh, my goodness, hold on a 1570 01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,270 second. So there's definitely the social environment has a 1571 01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:09,690 really big 1572 01:33:09,690 --> 01:33:14,190 impact. Okay, you always learn something on the no agenda show. 1573 01:33:14,220 --> 01:33:17,430 Well, I'll add to that, from that. Rub that what was the name 1574 01:33:17,430 --> 01:33:18,000 of her book? 1575 01:33:18,810 --> 01:33:22,950 Uh, why we eat? Why you eat what you eat. 1576 01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:29,970 So loss connections, was looking into obesity. And there was in 1577 01:33:29,970 --> 01:33:32,400 the study, it's great to start. I looked a couple of them up 1578 01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,200 there, you know, yes, footnotes and everything. These are 1579 01:33:34,260 --> 01:33:38,850 studies that have been funded properly and done. And they 1580 01:33:38,850 --> 01:33:42,150 wanted to see well, what if you just like a political prisoner 1581 01:33:42,150 --> 01:33:45,180 who goes on a hunger strike? What if you just have people not 1582 01:33:45,180 --> 01:33:47,310 eat but you give them the nutrients they need? So you 1583 01:33:47,310 --> 01:33:50,100 know, enough vitamin C's that don't die of scurvy and all this 1584 01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:54,570 other stuff. And this one study was done with I think, 400 1585 01:33:54,570 --> 01:33:59,730 people who were around 400 pounds obese. P imagine that 1586 01:33:59,730 --> 01:34:04,320 room. And so they they did exactly that. And they were able 1587 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:08,190 to take people from 400 pounds to 150 pounds in about four 1588 01:34:08,190 --> 01:34:13,200 months. But once they were done, within three weeks, they'd be 1589 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,410 eating so much. They were 250 pounds, and they just rocketed 1590 01:34:16,410 --> 01:34:19,710 back up to 400. And they said well, why? Why is this 1591 01:34:19,710 --> 01:34:22,500 happening? It obviously is the intake of food, the amount of 1592 01:34:22,500 --> 01:34:28,980 food Ed and no one had done this. 60% of all the obese 1593 01:34:28,980 --> 01:34:32,850 people in this study had been sexually abused as a child. And 1594 01:34:32,850 --> 01:34:35,610 the number one way to protect yourself is to make yourself 1595 01:34:35,610 --> 01:34:42,870 unattractive. 60% John, that's crazy. That's been under 1596 01:34:42,870 --> 01:34:46,200 40%. That word narrower, still fat. You had to deal with them. 1597 01:34:48,180 --> 01:34:51,870 I'm not sure what she has. She has a discussion about this. She 1598 01:34:51,870 --> 01:34:58,320 says it's an hour talking about the 40% not the abused. She says 1599 01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:03,840 that everybody has a Some, there's some study that talks 1600 01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,480 about you get there's a middle ground where you, you're going 1601 01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:10,320 to gravitate toward this weight and size. If you go over, you 1602 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,830 gravitate back down, if you go under you gravitate back up. And 1603 01:35:13,980 --> 01:35:17,940 there are some people that are just big. Sure. And there is 1604 01:35:17,940 --> 01:35:19,170 Texas by the way. 1605 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:24,360 Well, we eat entire cows at a time. We eat we eat a lot. 1606 01:35:26,970 --> 01:35:30,240 The I felt there was something in there. Yeah. I'll read that 1607 01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,090 book. Mr. Good. So in other words, if you're going to going 1608 01:35:33,090 --> 01:35:36,300 to be in first class, and you're going to get good food, you get 1609 01:35:36,300 --> 01:35:41,100 the caviar, you get the the good wine. cognacs. Put those 1610 01:35:41,100 --> 01:35:41,610 headphones 1611 01:35:41,610 --> 01:35:44,610 on. Yeah, you gotta have the noise cancelling headphones. 1612 01:35:44,820 --> 01:35:47,010 Yeah, you put those on and Fudo tastes a lot better. 1613 01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:50,670 I'm gonna try. That's an easy experiment to try at home. Yeah. 1614 01:35:50,970 --> 01:35:53,790 Well, just when I thought the pipeline wars were over, they 1615 01:35:53,790 --> 01:35:57,960 pulled me back in. Yeah, we're at war once again, now in Syria. 1616 01:35:59,460 --> 01:36:04,470 At a very interesting spot where we have bombed back. That is 1617 01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:10,950 what the term I've heard us mom back the Syrian army. Now it's 1618 01:36:10,980 --> 01:36:14,400 it's a spot where the old pipeline would cross. You know, 1619 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:18,570 we still have the competing pipelines, the Qatari pipeline, 1620 01:36:18,570 --> 01:36:20,910 which is supposed to go up and regionally to Turkey, but it may 1621 01:36:20,910 --> 01:36:26,160 go into Greece, and we still have the the Iran, Iran, Iraq, 1622 01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:30,300 Syria pipeline, and that's part of what this is. But just a 1623 01:36:30,300 --> 01:36:37,470 backgrounder. On February 2, Associated Press reporting. The 1624 01:36:37,470 --> 01:36:42,450 United States has no evidence to confirm reports from aid groups 1625 01:36:42,450 --> 01:36:44,850 and others that the Syrian government has used deadly 1626 01:36:44,850 --> 01:36:48,990 chemical sarin on its citizens. This is Mattis, Mad Dog, quote, 1627 01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:51,570 we have other reports from the battlefield from people who 1628 01:36:51,570 --> 01:36:57,690 claim it's been used. We do not have evidence of it by but, but 1629 01:36:58,260 --> 01:37:02,100 just a couple days later, good old Heather, they're in the 1630 01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:02,850 State Department. 1631 01:37:03,030 --> 01:37:05,670 The Secretary recently talked about this. And let me just 1632 01:37:05,670 --> 01:37:08,400 underscore and highlight some of the important things that we 1633 01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:12,360 would like to see take place with regard to Russia, as it 1634 01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:16,830 pertains to Syria. They need to stop using chemical weapons 1635 01:37:16,860 --> 01:37:21,420 Syria does but we also know that chemical weapons use is enabled 1636 01:37:21,420 --> 01:37:27,180 by Russia. They need to support a new mandate. Like we know 1637 01:37:27,180 --> 01:37:31,170 it's just a fact we know chemical weapons are enabled by 1638 01:37:31,170 --> 01:37:34,290 Russia. I'm not sure what it means. Does that mean they're 1639 01:37:34,290 --> 01:37:36,030 giving them to them then they're looking at 1640 01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,810 the Russians helped take those weapons out? Do we actually 1641 01:37:39,810 --> 01:37:41,100 there was a disposed of them 1642 01:37:41,130 --> 01:37:45,030 well, apparently, even though there's no evidence according to 1643 01:37:45,060 --> 01:37:46,950 Mad Dog, the state disarmed 1644 01:37:46,950 --> 01:37:49,920 Mad Dog says there's no evidence we on this show have pointed out 1645 01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:53,040 study after study that showed that one attack not the most 1646 01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,370 recent one, but the last one, or the one that earlier that was 1647 01:37:56,550 --> 01:37:59,790 attributed during the Obama administration. Yeah, that one 1648 01:37:59,790 --> 01:38:02,550 was shown to be bold crap, because missiles went too far 1649 01:38:02,550 --> 01:38:04,860 the wrong kind of missiles is the wrong kind. Again, 1650 01:38:04,890 --> 01:38:10,110 they tested chemical weapons in the UK. This is why Obama didn't 1651 01:38:10,140 --> 01:38:13,380 attack. And once he got the report, it's like, oh, shit, 1652 01:38:13,380 --> 01:38:15,900 that's not theirs. You remember that? 1653 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:20,370 Yeah, I do remember that. And it was like it became a problem 1654 01:38:20,370 --> 01:38:22,740 because he didn't attack he didn't attack right. Because the 1655 01:38:22,740 --> 01:38:25,800 world order the Neo cons and everybody that's all war. 1656 01:38:26,340 --> 01:38:27,450 Hungry. Well, 1657 01:38:27,450 --> 01:38:29,670 they're back. They're back was finished. Just listen to 1658 01:38:29,670 --> 01:38:34,950 Heather's she, she This is a PR job of epic proportions. You'll 1659 01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:40,380 hear her. She even breaks her her typical cadence to really 1660 01:38:40,380 --> 01:38:43,350 add some emotional emphasis to how horrible this is 1661 01:38:43,380 --> 01:38:47,190 Syria does. But we also know that chemical weapons use is 1662 01:38:47,190 --> 01:38:52,770 enabled by Russia. They need to support a new mandate, like the 1663 01:38:52,770 --> 01:38:57,600 jam the JM which has been foiled multiple times. And the UN 1664 01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:00,510 Security Council, Secretary Tillerson and we talked about 1665 01:39:00,510 --> 01:39:04,140 this the other day, took part in the Paris signing of a new 1666 01:39:04,170 --> 01:39:07,650 entity that's been set up by the French with I believe it's 25 1667 01:39:07,950 --> 01:39:11,160 other governments who care about having an Investigative 1668 01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:14,790 Mechanism put in place so that we can prevent the use of 1669 01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:18,540 chemical weapons against civilians. Let me remind you six 1670 01:39:18,570 --> 01:39:22,710 times in the last 30 days, some form of chemical weapons have 1671 01:39:22,710 --> 01:39:26,670 been used on the Syrian people. It's disgusting. It's horrific, 1672 01:39:26,670 --> 01:39:29,760 and it's evil. And we would like to see that stop, but we'll keep 1673 01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:33,000 following this will keep working on it. The government is meeting 1674 01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,460 I have to assure you that this is a top issue for us. Yeah, 1675 01:39:35,460 --> 01:39:35,580 it's 1676 01:39:35,580 --> 01:39:40,530 a top issue. And she's promoting this because we need a cover for 1677 01:39:40,530 --> 01:39:44,910 the war that we're now starting, or just continuing or whatever 1678 01:39:44,910 --> 01:39:48,600 it is. And there's a lot of issues in this region. We know 1679 01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:52,080 that we now have as we talked about pool maybe five years ago 1680 01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:57,150 now, there's a dispute about the Leviathan oil fields, the gas 1681 01:39:57,150 --> 01:40:02,220 field, Israel says it's theirs now Leben On is saying, ya know, 1682 01:40:02,220 --> 01:40:05,460 that's it's part of it's ours, you know, whose is it really? So 1683 01:40:05,460 --> 01:40:11,340 there's trouble there. But the Golan Heights, the Golan 1684 01:40:11,340 --> 01:40:17,250 Heights, this is the region that lies right in between Syria and 1685 01:40:17,250 --> 01:40:20,730 Israel. This is occupied territory, Israel claim that 1686 01:40:20,730 --> 01:40:29,760 after the 67, Six Day War, and in 2015, you will never guess 1687 01:40:29,790 --> 01:40:35,250 but they discovered this may have the largest largest oil 1688 01:40:35,250 --> 01:40:39,570 field underneath it larger than what Saudi Arabia can tap into. 1689 01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:45,330 That's pretty big. I don't know anything about the numbers that 1690 01:40:45,330 --> 01:40:49,890 they're saying here about the Strada and whatever it is, but 1691 01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:55,620 this is disputed territory. And I'm sure the Russians do not 1692 01:40:55,620 --> 01:41:00,600 want Israel and America to get that. 1693 01:41:01,050 --> 01:41:05,100 You know, I want to mention something. Heather would not be 1694 01:41:05,100 --> 01:41:10,920 getting away with this if gay on chichi Khan, or any Russian in 1695 01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,860 that room that used to be in the room during the Obama 1696 01:41:13,860 --> 01:41:17,070 administration, grilling them anytime they brought up Russia 1697 01:41:17,070 --> 01:41:20,070 or blaming Russia for something that's not verified or provable? 1698 01:41:20,100 --> 01:41:20,400 Yep. 1699 01:41:21,900 --> 01:41:24,360 Yeah, you're right. You're right. This is very weak. 1700 01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:28,800 They've kicked all those people out. Though there is a company 1701 01:41:28,830 --> 01:41:33,600 that has the drilling rights, that company is called ethic A F 1702 01:41:33,630 --> 01:41:42,060 E. C, it is a no. Believe me, I check. It is a subsidiary of 1703 01:41:42,090 --> 01:41:44,520 Genie, oil and gas. 1704 01:41:45,210 --> 01:41:48,420 And is that public? Um, 1705 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,150 I don't know. Let me see. I don't believe so. 1706 01:41:51,510 --> 01:41:53,730 Let me just check. Somebody's gotta be public. 1707 01:41:54,870 --> 01:42:02,040 Yes, je E G, H, E, N E. That's their symbol. Good. If you want 1708 01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:05,280 to look it up. Gne. I'm gonna do that right now. Okay, this will 1709 01:42:05,310 --> 01:42:08,430 this now depending on how the war goes? It'll be long or 1710 01:42:08,430 --> 01:42:10,050 short. We're not really sure yet. 1711 01:42:10,140 --> 01:42:12,540 Well, that probably won't be a short because usually these 1712 01:42:12,540 --> 01:42:15,450 companies aren't that short, double, they just would just do 1713 01:42:15,450 --> 01:42:17,370 it. They just stay where they were, they're not going to go 1714 01:42:17,370 --> 01:42:20,430 down unless they've already unless they've skyrocketed well 1715 01:42:20,430 --> 01:42:21,210 to know about when I 1716 01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:24,090 when I read the following names to you, you'll want to go along. 1717 01:42:24,660 --> 01:42:28,350 Now a reminder that our our Secretary of State who Heather 1718 01:42:28,350 --> 01:42:32,820 works for is Rex Tillerson, he's an oil guy. So you know i 1719 01:42:32,850 --> 01:42:37,560 There's no doubt about in my mind where once again we the we 1720 01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:41,370 send in the US melon military known as the United States 1721 01:42:41,580 --> 01:42:44,970 mineral extraction unit to be send them in kill everybody 1722 01:42:44,970 --> 01:42:48,600 around and we protect it all so that we can go and drill this 1723 01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:53,640 strategic advisory board of Genie oil and gas. You ready? 1724 01:42:54,780 --> 01:42:56,040 For dollars a share? 1725 01:42:56,670 --> 01:42:57,960 All steel? 1726 01:42:59,130 --> 01:43:01,440 Well, you don't know that could go broke tomorrow. And then we 1727 01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:01,830 go on. 1728 01:43:02,940 --> 01:43:08,400 On the strategic advisory board. Dick Cheney. nuber Rupert 1729 01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:15,330 Murdoch. Yep. Bill Richardson. James are our James Woolsey, 1730 01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:21,030 former CIA director, Dr. Lawrence Summers. And then my 1731 01:43:21,030 --> 01:43:25,410 favorite Jacob Rothschild. Oh my god, the trifecta. 1732 01:43:27,060 --> 01:43:29,790 More than a trifecta. Quadra effect, yes. 1733 01:43:30,810 --> 01:43:34,770 So that's the fact that's what this is about. And they're going 1734 01:43:34,770 --> 01:43:38,130 to call and we're going to use the cover of their use. We need 1735 01:43:38,130 --> 01:43:42,690 that knew that we needed a gym, which was the joint what does 1736 01:43:42,690 --> 01:43:48,450 that the joint investigation? Ma I forget what it's gonna have it 1737 01:43:48,450 --> 01:43:52,860 here. So at Joint Investigative Mechanism, which was which was 1738 01:43:52,860 --> 01:43:55,710 blown up a couple of years ago, the Russians said screw this. We 1739 01:43:55,710 --> 01:44:00,210 don't want to be they vetoed it. It's so un thing, which no one 1740 01:44:00,210 --> 01:44:02,310 really cares, but they're just looking for cover. They're 1741 01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:06,990 looking for cover. And that's what this is about. It's just 1742 01:44:06,990 --> 01:44:11,790 extracting resources from arguably stolen land or disputed 1743 01:44:11,790 --> 01:44:14,850 land. Let's put it that way. It's disputed, disputed, 1744 01:44:14,910 --> 01:44:15,870 disputed. 1745 01:44:16,380 --> 01:44:18,600 But you when you visit Israel, they'll tell you that there's 1746 01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,240 good reasons for it. But you know, you'll be floating around 1747 01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,640 the cities and they pointed the Golan Heights to say see you up 1748 01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,940 there they can be bombing us from up there. It's up in the 1749 01:44:26,940 --> 01:44:30,240 air, you know, you can throw rocks ago mile. 1750 01:44:31,470 --> 01:44:39,360 Anyway, anyways, disappointed by this behavior. And more. More 1751 01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,090 disappointed. There's no one the State Department who stands up 1752 01:44:42,090 --> 01:44:47,100 like you said guy on TwitchCon and says, Hey, what has 1753 01:44:47,820 --> 01:44:53,190 nothing to do with your story? Now, let's play action over 1754 01:44:53,190 --> 01:44:55,680 Syria. This is the Saturday report from yesterday and what's 1755 01:44:55,680 --> 01:45:02,340 good this is from PBS. Looking forward, back exit. Got it. 1756 01:45:02,669 --> 01:45:05,369 Good evening, and thanks for joining us conflict in the skies 1757 01:45:05,369 --> 01:45:08,129 over Syria and Israel this evening, following the most 1758 01:45:08,129 --> 01:45:11,639 serious skirmishes between the two countries since 2011. Right 1759 01:45:11,639 --> 01:45:15,419 now two Israeli pilots are being treated for injuries after Syria 1760 01:45:15,419 --> 01:45:19,019 shot down their F 16. They were striking what Israel says are 1761 01:45:19,019 --> 01:45:23,159 Iranian air bases within Syria. But today's violence began after 1762 01:45:23,159 --> 01:45:26,909 Israel shot down an Iranian drone, which entered Israeli 1763 01:45:26,939 --> 01:45:32,069 airspace from Syria. and Israeli military spokesman warned Iran 1764 01:45:32,099 --> 01:45:35,189 is dragging the region into an adventure in which it doesn't 1765 01:45:35,189 --> 01:45:36,539 know how it will end 1766 01:45:37,229 --> 01:45:41,249 towards Iran now. Okay, good. We're back to the west part. So 1767 01:45:41,250 --> 01:45:43,680 you know, now it's very suspicious because of you this 1768 01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:47,310 the day went on with the store with some woman who's with the 1769 01:45:47,310 --> 01:45:50,700 biggest blue eyes have ever seen shouldn't be English girl. And 1770 01:45:50,700 --> 01:45:56,070 she was doing a remote on Skype. And normally, I would play at 1771 01:45:56,070 --> 01:45:59,670 least some of it. If you don't mind, the whole thing sounding 1772 01:45:59,670 --> 01:46:02,760 like this is too harsh. I know. It's rough. And so I wasn't 1773 01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,250 gonna play it. And she went on to discuss it. There was a 1774 01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:10,800 second strike. That first the first strike was against Iranian 1775 01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:16,650 drone base. Yeah. And the second strike was another Iranian drone 1776 01:46:16,650 --> 01:46:19,890 base. And that's what got my attention, which is, why would 1777 01:46:19,890 --> 01:46:26,400 they have two drone bases in Syria that needed to be bombed? 1778 01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,860 Do they? I doubt it. 1779 01:46:28,890 --> 01:46:31,620 I mean, are they talking about little drones? There's a dude 1780 01:46:31,620 --> 01:46:33,630 with a remote control on the ground. And all of a sudden, 1781 01:46:33,630 --> 01:46:33,750 he's 1782 01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:36,810 talking about drone bases, which means they're talking about big 1783 01:46:36,810 --> 01:46:40,350 drones, the big boys? That's my guess. I mean, it could be 1784 01:46:40,350 --> 01:46:44,040 bullshit. But where was where was the drone shot down? We 1785 01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:47,130 don't know is it shot down over Golan Heights? That's, you know, 1786 01:46:47,130 --> 01:46:50,370 they just scoping out the area that is got the oil that you say 1787 01:46:50,370 --> 01:46:54,510 is there could be that somebody says is there or and then where 1788 01:46:54,510 --> 01:46:56,760 they bomb in the edge of the pipelines? We're gonna go I 1789 01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:00,150 mean, this whole thing with that information, the new information 1790 01:47:00,150 --> 01:47:01,920 that was said that you're putting in a different light, 1791 01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,590 doesn't it? It puts everything in a different light. And now we 1792 01:47:04,590 --> 01:47:07,560 have to look at it from that perspective, skeptical and 1793 01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:08,700 doesn't help. I was 1794 01:47:08,700 --> 01:47:11,310 very dissatisfied with my military contacts. I said, Well, 1795 01:47:11,310 --> 01:47:15,510 why are we why are we bombing the Syrians? And what I got back 1796 01:47:15,510 --> 01:47:20,790 was, they came too close. And, and by the way, it's funny 1797 01:47:20,790 --> 01:47:24,570 because ISIS is actually in the, in the no man's land in between 1798 01:47:24,810 --> 01:47:28,110 the Assyrians and us. So they're, they're basically 1799 01:47:28,110 --> 01:47:31,530 caught in the hellfire. But, you know, it was like, they got too 1800 01:47:31,530 --> 01:47:34,860 close. I got into my buying it that. I don't like your answer. 1801 01:47:36,060 --> 01:47:37,080 This is the answer. 1802 01:47:37,290 --> 01:47:41,250 Well, without anybody asking strong questions in the State 1803 01:47:41,250 --> 01:47:45,300 Department briefing, we'll never find out. Which is why you need 1804 01:47:45,300 --> 01:47:48,600 our tea in there. And the fact that it's not been discussed 1805 01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,820 that we don't have any Russians, I don't know. Maybe there is a 1806 01:47:50,820 --> 01:47:54,420 Russian or they're not saying anything. But usually we would 1807 01:47:54,420 --> 01:47:59,610 have a Russian or even Matt. Yep. Stop them at this because 1808 01:47:59,610 --> 01:48:02,700 you can't say what she said was was the usual stuff that Matt 1809 01:48:02,700 --> 01:48:07,500 usually stops and to, which is we know, the Russians are doing 1810 01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:12,540 this. Well, how do we know that? And of course, you'd have to say 1811 01:48:12,540 --> 01:48:14,880 the Russian investigation with Trump is also part of this 1812 01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:18,750 smokescreen. So we're dealing with a smokescreen here. A big 1813 01:48:18,750 --> 01:48:21,840 one, as usual? Well, it's because a lot of money's 1814 01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:27,660 involved. Jacob Rothschild, wow. I mean, you can do you ever see 1815 01:48:27,660 --> 01:48:31,500 that video of the kid who goes up to Russia? Because Rothschild 1816 01:48:31,500 --> 01:48:35,250 well, when? When he's in his garden? No, no, he's Roman, or 1817 01:48:35,250 --> 01:48:39,030 he just left a meeting Ana, and he's roaming around the streets 1818 01:48:39,450 --> 01:48:42,360 is roaming, because a lot of these rich guys are like that. 1819 01:48:43,470 --> 01:48:45,720 Because you don't know what they look like. They just don't feel 1820 01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:49,080 very comfortable just roaming around your body Guards, guards 1821 01:48:49,110 --> 01:48:53,850 body, God's God's God. And so he's roaming around his guy 1822 01:48:53,850 --> 01:48:56,460 caught basically a costume started grilling him about the 1823 01:48:56,460 --> 01:49:02,520 Illuminati. Know what the kids talking about? Yeah, he does. 1824 01:49:03,630 --> 01:49:04,620 Think so. Yeah. 1825 01:49:06,570 --> 01:49:08,310 Victoria Kagan Nudelman. 1826 01:49:09,540 --> 01:49:12,120 That's right, everybody we've been looking for she has emerged 1827 01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:16,890 as the CEO of a top warmongering Think Tank, Victoria Kagan 1828 01:49:16,890 --> 01:49:23,190 Nudelman. She's reappearing on the scene now as the CEO of what 1829 01:49:23,190 --> 01:49:24,360 does that outfit called again? 1830 01:49:24,570 --> 01:49:28,740 This is she just a PR woman. Now she's the CEO. Well, 1831 01:49:28,740 --> 01:49:32,670 she's the one that works. She's the wife of and she was an 1832 01:49:32,670 --> 01:49:38,400 ambassador, come on, you know, she was the Deputy Secretary of 1833 01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:39,000 State. 1834 01:49:39,990 --> 01:49:42,960 Well, she started off as a PR woman, how did she get to there 1835 01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:44,490 even Well, alright, so the problem 1836 01:49:44,490 --> 01:49:49,170 started off as a builder of slums. And I mean, come on, kind 1837 01:49:49,170 --> 01:49:53,880 of question is that it's a good one. It's the Center for a New 1838 01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:58,200 American Security. So I've heard of these ones war mongering 1839 01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:02,070 Think Tank, pretty much I'd like to remind you 1840 01:50:02,220 --> 01:50:04,800 who else is in that group. There's a whole bunch of creeps 1841 01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:04,920 in. 1842 01:50:04,950 --> 01:50:09,780 Yeah, we went through the list. I can tell you now, what does it 1843 01:50:09,780 --> 01:50:15,960 Center for American Security Center for American security? 1844 01:50:16,020 --> 01:50:20,970 Let's see why, man. She's looking a little rough. Vicki. 1845 01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:22,740 I don't think she's a happy camper. 1846 01:50:23,519 --> 01:50:29,909 No, probably not. Okay, let's say c n a s.org. C. NASS. And 1847 01:50:29,909 --> 01:50:32,699 let's see if we can find about I think I've read this list 1848 01:50:32,699 --> 01:50:36,599 previously, people, board of advisors. Let's see, 1849 01:50:36,630 --> 01:50:39,690 she looks like she just doesn't look good. If she looks like 1850 01:50:39,690 --> 01:50:40,800 William Shatner. 1851 01:50:45,390 --> 01:50:48,060 There's a lot of insults you can give out but 1852 01:50:49,650 --> 01:50:53,070 my shadow is fine. But he's at I mean, you know, he's, you know, 1853 01:50:53,070 --> 01:50:53,610 puffy. 1854 01:50:53,849 --> 01:50:57,389 So the board of advisors is not it's not easy. It's just all 1855 01:50:57,389 --> 01:50:59,639 military people, as far as I can see them see on the board of 1856 01:50:59,639 --> 01:51:08,189 directors, Armitage course. Lieberman Johnson, James 1857 01:51:08,189 --> 01:51:10,739 Murdoch, those guys spread out the Murdochs, don't they? 1858 01:51:12,929 --> 01:51:15,869 Actually, it's a military outfit. Anyway, she was 1859 01:51:15,869 --> 01:51:20,009 interviewed by political one of her best friends who works at 1860 01:51:20,009 --> 01:51:28,049 political left that out of it. Let's remember what she said. In 1861 01:51:28,049 --> 01:51:31,469 that tape telephone conversation that the Russians released, we 1862 01:51:31,469 --> 01:51:35,129 believe it was the Russians. This is where the way I recall 1863 01:51:35,129 --> 01:51:41,159 it. We went in saying the Russians are trying to screw up 1864 01:51:41,159 --> 01:51:43,979 the elections are trying to take over the place we gotta go in 1865 01:51:43,979 --> 01:51:47,879 and we got to rig the elections. And we're gonna put our guys in, 1866 01:51:48,119 --> 01:51:52,079 and this was caught on tape. And the Russians published that. And 1867 01:51:52,079 --> 01:51:54,449 here's a copy of the damning parts. Remember, 1868 01:51:54,450 --> 01:51:57,720 if I told you this, or if I only told Washington this that when I 1869 01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:01,440 talked to Jeff Feltman this morning, he had a new name for 1870 01:52:01,440 --> 01:52:05,280 the UN guy, Robert Serry, did I read that this morning? Yeah, I 1871 01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:10,290 saw that. He's now gotten both celery and Bong Ki Moon to agree 1872 01:52:10,290 --> 01:52:15,060 that celery could come in Monday or Tuesday. Okay. So that would 1873 01:52:15,060 --> 01:52:18,360 be great, I think to help glue this thing and have the UN help 1874 01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:21,060 glue it. And, you know, fuck the EU, 1875 01:52:21,630 --> 01:52:24,270 though. Exactly. And I think we've got to do something to 1876 01:52:24,270 --> 01:52:27,120 make it stick together. Because you can be pretty sure that if 1877 01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:30,330 it does, if it does start to gain altitude, the Russians will 1878 01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:32,970 be working behind the scenes to try to torpedo it. 1879 01:52:33,390 --> 01:52:37,200 Okay, so I think that kind of backs up our theory. And if you 1880 01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,060 listen to the whole conversation, they're talking 1881 01:52:39,060 --> 01:52:42,420 about the boxer, we got to get in him, but we got to put them 1882 01:52:42,420 --> 01:52:46,080 in the background because he's really no good. You recall these 1883 01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:46,200 they 1884 01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,990 picked the leaders, they picked the mayor. 1885 01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,960 I mean, we just let's just be honest about it. We picked him. 1886 01:52:52,290 --> 01:52:54,810 And we were fighting, fighting the Russians, and we were 1887 01:52:54,810 --> 01:52:58,260 meddling in someone else's elections to an extreme, I might 1888 01:52:58,260 --> 01:52:59,850 point out to an extreme where hand 1889 01:52:59,850 --> 01:53:14,910 picking people laugh, and this is what I'll say. You know, the 1890 01:53:14,910 --> 01:53:19,170 Russians must be beside themselves, thinking that that 1891 01:53:19,380 --> 01:53:24,750 release of that tape would have sunk her forever. And that she's 1892 01:53:24,750 --> 01:53:28,230 now vacuuming? Well, she's never laughs She's always been in the 1893 01:53:28,260 --> 01:53:29,640 well, she actually mentioned 1894 01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:33,510 that. So this is a it's a long interview. I just picked out one 1895 01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:36,210 piece about this particular situation. Well, in 1896 01:53:36,210 --> 01:53:38,610 some ways, they've been quite successful at doing that, not 1897 01:53:38,610 --> 01:53:42,900 only in the 2016 election hacking, which, which, of 1898 01:53:42,900 --> 01:53:43,410 course, well, 1899 01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:46,770 look, I let you know how much I love that when people journos 1900 01:53:46,860 --> 01:53:50,460 just say the 2016 election hacking. What is that supposed 1901 01:53:50,460 --> 01:53:53,580 to mean? That is, that is 1902 01:53:53,610 --> 01:53:59,430 horrible. It's a meme. But it's it's a lie. It's a total lie. 1903 01:53:59,490 --> 01:54:01,470 And what hacking specifically? Yeah, 1904 01:54:01,530 --> 01:54:04,140 well, in some ways, they've been quite successful at doing that, 1905 01:54:04,140 --> 01:54:08,670 not only in the 2016 election hacking, which, which, of 1906 01:54:08,670 --> 01:54:11,250 course, we'll we'll talk about, but let's go back in time to 1907 01:54:11,250 --> 01:54:17,700 2014. Arguably, you were at the leading edge of this, you were 1908 01:54:17,700 --> 01:54:20,640 being hacked before as before it was fashionable, but, 1909 01:54:21,150 --> 01:54:23,430 you know, now everything's hacked. The 1910 01:54:23,519 --> 01:54:28,079 world was fashionable before 2014 By the way, yes, it wasn't 1911 01:54:28,079 --> 01:54:31,229 fashionable, but now it's fashionable. Hello, whoa. But 1912 01:54:31,230 --> 01:54:34,320 what did you learn from that incident? You know, let's talk 1913 01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:38,730 about it. You're you're there in Ukraine as this street 1914 01:54:38,730 --> 01:54:41,820 revolution, in fact, is is unfolding around it and a pro 1915 01:54:42,090 --> 01:54:48,270 Russia regime ultimately is replaced with a pro Western 1916 01:54:48,300 --> 01:54:53,040 regime. And you were taped. Unbeknownst to you. 1917 01:54:53,070 --> 01:54:55,020 Well, I thought she was hacked, but now she was taped, 1918 01:54:55,290 --> 01:54:59,790 talking with your colleague, the US Ambassador Ukraine. So 1919 01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:04,950 uh, Uh, I knew that this movement that was going on in 1920 01:55:04,950 --> 01:55:09,840 Ukraine, which remember was about integrating with the EU as 1921 01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,630 they wanted to join the EU. They didn't even want to join the EU 1922 01:55:12,630 --> 01:55:16,290 they just wanted to be able to trade and have have free was 1923 01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:17,970 crap. 1924 01:55:20,940 --> 01:55:21,870 What was it about? 1925 01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,070 They wanted to join the EU is a big deal. In fact, it was the 1926 01:55:26,070 --> 01:55:29,280 Russians who demanded that never ever think about it. They said 1927 01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:31,530 wait a minute, we want to join the EU. It'd be cool. 1928 01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:35,490 There was the whole ascension thing it was it happened amongst 1929 01:55:35,490 --> 01:55:39,390 the myths of the Ukraine shutting off Russian gas into 1930 01:55:39,390 --> 01:55:39,990 Euro they 1931 01:55:39,990 --> 01:55:41,040 want to join the EU so 1932 01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:42,660 they want it to be in the EU 1933 01:55:42,660 --> 01:55:44,430 Vicki that this 1934 01:55:44,970 --> 01:55:46,620 she knows she's a liar 1935 01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:50,640 gets better what's going on in Ukraine, which remember was 1936 01:55:50,670 --> 01:55:54,540 about integrating with the EU was they wanted to join. They 1937 01:55:54,540 --> 01:55:57,120 didn't even want to join the EU. They just wanted to be able to 1938 01:55:57,120 --> 01:56:03,150 trade and have just tray so threatening to the Putin 1939 01:56:03,150 --> 01:56:08,490 administration that they would pull out a cold wallet worst 1940 01:56:08,490 --> 01:56:12,930 style dirty tricks. Not just about me against me but of 1941 01:56:12,930 --> 01:56:16,170 course against the Ukrainians and against others who supported 1942 01:56:16,170 --> 01:56:20,460 them. And that the the gloves were coming out off and the 1943 01:56:20,460 --> 01:56:22,860 knife knives were coming out that we were not going to have a 1944 01:56:22,860 --> 01:56:27,120 fair fight to allow folks to to choose for themselves that this 1945 01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:29,190 was going to be a real struggle. 1946 01:56:29,309 --> 01:56:31,559 So we had to meddle in their elections pretty 1947 01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:34,680 hostile act to you know, publicly released this phone 1948 01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:37,770 call which is inflammatory hostile. We're saying if the EU, 1949 01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:41,340 I'm sure that need for some fun conversations with your your 1950 01:56:41,340 --> 01:56:43,260 fellow diplomats. 1951 01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:47,880 So just to recap that moment, what was going on was you know, 1952 01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:53,010 we had had 200,000 protesters on the streets of of the of 1953 01:56:53,010 --> 01:56:53,790 Ukraine. Yes, 1954 01:56:53,790 --> 01:56:55,440 we saw you handing out cookies. 1955 01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:56,640 Yeah, my Dawn and 1956 01:56:57,180 --> 01:57:01,980 a second back and stop it back a little bit. When she says this. 1957 01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:06,570 Yeah, of course. This is Lisa, Dr. Dan, that can spot her voice 1958 01:57:07,500 --> 01:57:10,830 interviewing her. And she's the one with the big nose and the 1959 01:57:10,830 --> 01:57:14,010 one who's got Yes, some connection to one of the donors 1960 01:57:14,010 --> 01:57:21,840 of the to the show. I mentioned this before. Victoria says we 1961 01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:26,790 Yes. As we had 200,000 people yesterday. Yes. 1962 01:57:26,820 --> 01:57:32,520 Thank you. Remember we had Yeah, because we organized it. We had 1963 01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:36,780 two dozen. It wasn't they had to do the Ukrainians had 2000 1964 01:57:36,780 --> 01:57:41,640 people but they it's we we had 200,000 here now that believable 1965 01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:45,060 and check. Does Lisa say anything about your usage? No. 1966 01:57:45,060 --> 01:57:45,420 Because 1967 01:57:45,570 --> 01:57:48,240 well, I didn't, I should have clipped the opening. It's like 1968 01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:51,630 my good friend Victoria Nuland. Liquid? 1969 01:57:53,310 --> 01:57:56,550 Al's Yes, you know, publicly released this phone call, which 1970 01:57:56,550 --> 01:57:58,680 has this inflammatory moment where you're saying after the 1971 01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:02,790 EU, I'm sure that made for some fun conversations with your your 1972 01:58:02,790 --> 01:58:04,710 fellow diplomats. 1973 01:58:04,770 --> 01:58:09,330 So just to recap that moment, what was going on was, you know, 1974 01:58:09,330 --> 01:58:15,060 we had had 200,000 protesters on the streets of of the of Ukraine 1975 01:58:15,060 --> 01:58:19,320 on the My Dawn and down in the snow for two months, protesting 1976 01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:22,920 that their leader was realigning with Russia and not allowing 1977 01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:27,000 them to integrate with the EU. And there was no clear 1978 01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:31,950 constitutional way for them to express their views through the 1979 01:58:31,950 --> 01:58:36,540 ballot box. So the we were trying to form some kind of a 1980 01:58:37,020 --> 01:58:39,750 work with Ukrainians to form some kind of technical. 1981 01:58:40,860 --> 01:58:43,680 Again, we and then she catches herself. We're trying to work 1982 01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:44,430 with the Ukrainians. 1983 01:58:45,510 --> 01:58:48,660 about all the different politicians who are in the mix 1984 01:58:48,660 --> 01:58:50,790 for this job, one of whom I saw is going to be here in 1985 01:58:50,790 --> 01:58:51,300 Washington 1986 01:58:51,450 --> 01:58:53,610 this week, next week. Right, so So essentially, what was 1987 01:58:53,610 --> 01:58:56,850 happening was we were trying to help midwife between the 1988 01:58:56,850 --> 01:59:00,270 government and the opposition, a coalition government. And we 1989 01:59:00,270 --> 01:59:04,440 were getting closer finally, and and and Jana COVID, had finally 1990 01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:08,310 offered the the opposition, some slots in this government. But 1991 01:59:08,310 --> 01:59:11,070 the opposition wasn't going to negotiate unless there wasn't a 1992 01:59:11,070 --> 01:59:14,340 neutral observer. And so we were trying to get the EU to come in 1993 01:59:14,340 --> 01:59:16,470 and be that neutral observer. And they were 1994 01:59:16,500 --> 01:59:19,020 How can you be neutral if part of the argument is they want to 1995 01:59:19,020 --> 01:59:22,860 be in the EU? That's not neutral, indecisive. And by the 1996 01:59:22,860 --> 01:59:25,830 way, that's bullshit because they wanted to bring in the UN 1997 01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:28,950 and the Dutch guy. That's what they wanted to bring in to do 1998 01:59:28,950 --> 01:59:30,060 some negotiations. 1999 01:59:30,090 --> 01:59:34,050 I remember that moment was about to pass. So in my private 2000 01:59:34,050 --> 01:59:37,530 conversation out of frustration, it wasn't a you know, strategic 2001 01:59:37,530 --> 01:59:39,600 frustration. It was a tactical frustration. 2002 01:59:40,350 --> 01:59:43,350 What is a tactical frustration versus a strategic drive 2003 01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:43,770 frustrating 2004 01:59:43,770 --> 01:59:48,510 as a brother? It's unbelievable to even say that, 2005 01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:49,710 what does it mean? 2006 01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:51,480 It doesn't mean anything. 2007 01:59:51,660 --> 01:59:54,990 What is it? Well, she's she's, she's saying it like I should. 2008 01:59:55,170 --> 01:59:56,280 It wasn't as well maybe 2009 01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:59,190 it means something to her tactical frustration. That means 2010 01:59:59,190 --> 02:00:02,610 she was on fish. That means she was frustrated on purpose. 2011 02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:04,110 Yes, that's what I'm 2012 02:00:04,110 --> 02:00:07,650 thinking, the opposition, some slots in this government. But 2013 02:00:07,650 --> 02:00:10,410 the opposition wasn't going to negotiate unless there was an a 2014 02:00:10,410 --> 02:00:13,680 neutral observer. And so we were trying to get the EU to come in 2015 02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:17,820 and be that neutral observer, and they were indecisive. And 2016 02:00:17,820 --> 02:00:21,840 the moment was about to pass. So in my private conversation out 2017 02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:25,020 of frustration, there wasn't a, you know, strategic frustration. 2018 02:00:25,020 --> 02:00:29,100 It was a tactical frustration. I use this barnyard epithet and 2019 02:00:29,100 --> 02:00:31,710 say, let's use the UN as the negotiator. And then of course, 2020 02:00:31,710 --> 02:00:38,070 the Russians tried to make that an indictment of us of me too. 2021 02:00:38,850 --> 02:00:42,480 Because we were, frankly, being too effective on the ground and 2022 02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:44,730 they wanted to get us off the boards. What's 2023 02:00:44,970 --> 02:00:47,250 what's interesting, right in hindsight, well, a in hindsight, 2024 02:00:47,250 --> 02:00:50,070 it seemed kind of quaint, I mean, frankly, Barnard epithet, 2025 02:00:50,070 --> 02:00:52,890 but now look at the, you know, language we use in public now, 2026 02:00:53,340 --> 02:00:55,170 in our debates, but um, you know, 2027 02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:56,790 what is she talking about? 2028 02:00:56,880 --> 02:01:01,290 Well, that, that, apparently, in our debates these days, ever 2029 02:01:01,290 --> 02:01:04,110 since Donald Trump was president, let's just dig at 2030 02:01:04,110 --> 02:01:07,590 him. We use the F word all the time. I guess that's where she 2031 02:01:07,620 --> 02:01:10,290 was the last time you heard Trump use the F word. Never. 2032 02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:13,950 I've never heard it. 2033 02:01:13,980 --> 02:01:16,650 No, I've heard him use the S word but not the F word. 2034 02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:19,680 shithole. Yeah, round 2035 02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:22,020 and they wanted to get us off the boards with 2036 02:01:24,060 --> 02:01:25,950 Did you ever hear him actually say 2037 02:01:25,950 --> 02:01:29,280 that? No, but I was. He has said we should bomb the shit out of 2038 02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:31,320 them. I've heard him say that. Not the shithole. I've heard. 2039 02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:34,080 Yeah, in hindsight. Well, a in hindsight, it's you've kind of 2040 02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:36,900 Queen I mean, frankly, sad. It's a partner episode. But now look 2041 02:01:36,900 --> 02:01:39,900 at the, you know, language we use in public now, in our 2042 02:01:39,900 --> 02:01:44,310 debasement, right, you know? Yeah. No, you weren't you were. 2043 02:01:44,940 --> 02:01:45,570 But you know, 2044 02:01:45,690 --> 02:01:47,910 ahead of the curve. She was ahead of the curve with the 2045 02:01:47,910 --> 02:01:48,360 effort. 2046 02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:51,060 She's responsible for Trump. That's right. We 2047 02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:54,360 did we understand that that was a pretty aggressive move by the 2048 02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:56,880 Russians to that was pretty aggressive at that moment in 2049 02:01:56,880 --> 02:01:57,150 time. 2050 02:01:57,180 --> 02:01:59,250 Ya know, I certainly knew that they were hearing the 2051 02:01:59,250 --> 02:02:00,330 conversation. And frankly, I 2052 02:02:00,330 --> 02:02:03,180 thought, Well, did you hear what she says? I certainly knew they 2053 02:02:03,180 --> 02:02:05,820 were hearing the conversation. Really. Now, Vicki, 2054 02:02:05,970 --> 02:02:07,320 I was almost again ahead of time. 2055 02:02:07,350 --> 02:02:09,660 Yeah. No, you weren't you were ahead of the curve. But you 2056 02:02:09,660 --> 02:02:12,570 know, did we? Did we understand that that month was a pretty 2057 02:02:12,570 --> 02:02:15,810 aggressive move by the Russians to that was pretty aggressive at 2058 02:02:15,810 --> 02:02:16,590 that moment in time? 2059 02:02:16,620 --> 02:02:18,690 Yeah. No, I certainly knew that they were hearing the 2060 02:02:18,690 --> 02:02:21,150 conversation. And frankly, I thought it was a matter of 2061 02:02:21,150 --> 02:02:22,710 transparency between us and them 2062 02:02:22,710 --> 02:02:24,060 right there. It we're fine with 2063 02:02:24,990 --> 02:02:27,330 midwife a coalition which might have helped them. 2064 02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:30,600 That's interesting. So now she's claiming she knew they were 2065 02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:33,330 listening. And she thought it would be good if they heard what 2066 02:02:33,330 --> 02:02:37,110 she was trying to do. Because it would also benefit the Russians, 2067 02:02:37,140 --> 02:02:39,960 that is now her story to do unbelievable 2068 02:02:39,990 --> 02:02:43,290 it as well. But to but to release it the way they did in 2069 02:02:43,290 --> 02:02:48,390 an effort to to embarrass us, you know, perhaps get the 2070 02:02:48,390 --> 02:02:50,790 president to fire me or whatever. That of course, 2071 02:02:50,790 --> 02:02:54,450 backfired. But that was only the first that was elbow right at 2072 02:02:54,450 --> 02:02:57,300 it. And then later when the State Department was hacked, and 2073 02:02:58,500 --> 02:03:03,270 and in 2015. So they really began using these asymmetric 2074 02:03:03,270 --> 02:03:05,040 tools, a symmetric 2075 02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:10,230 tools. No. Does that mean we don't have the capability to 2076 02:03:10,230 --> 02:03:15,990 wiretap and publish it? Why is that asymmetric? Asymmetric is 2077 02:03:16,050 --> 02:03:22,140 in my understanding used more for terrorism, for the hotties 2078 02:03:22,140 --> 02:03:24,780 who come in. And they're undercuts. Asymmetric 2079 02:03:24,780 --> 02:03:29,670 means that the two sides have differing powers. One has 2080 02:03:29,670 --> 02:03:32,880 massive power, and the other one is like sniper. Yeah, it would 2081 02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:36,570 be asymmetric, right? This is not even it's not symmetric. So 2082 02:03:36,570 --> 02:03:38,190 I don't know what she's talking about 2083 02:03:38,220 --> 02:03:42,270 the first that was elbow right it and then later when the State 2084 02:03:42,270 --> 02:03:47,850 Department was hacked, and and in 2015. So they really began 2085 02:03:47,850 --> 02:03:50,250 using these asymmetric tools Hold on 2086 02:03:50,250 --> 02:03:54,060 a second stop. If it's if she's gonna make the claim that as 2087 02:03:54,060 --> 02:03:56,250 asymmetric. That means the Russians probably didn't hack 2088 02:03:56,250 --> 02:03:58,680 anything because they haven't got the power. When you're using 2089 02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:02,280 that term, which I think you analyze correctly. That means 2090 02:04:02,280 --> 02:04:06,210 you're the weak partner. Yeah. And you're using chickenshit 2091 02:04:06,210 --> 02:04:09,690 tactics. But you can't do much more because you don't you 2092 02:04:09,690 --> 02:04:13,560 haven't really got is like, the ISIS, they haven't got ships. 2093 02:04:13,710 --> 02:04:16,170 They haven't got jets, right. They haven't got anything. They 2094 02:04:16,170 --> 02:04:21,450 got a bunch of stolen tanks, right. And so there you make it 2095 02:04:21,450 --> 02:04:23,760 a solid to Russia, the Russians have no capabilities that you 2096 02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:27,480 have to use these chickenshit tactics. And they didn't hack 2097 02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:30,120 the DNC. But they did 2098 02:04:30,120 --> 02:04:33,330 hack something else. It and then later when the State Department 2099 02:04:33,330 --> 02:04:39,360 was hacked, and and in 2015. So they really began using these 2100 02:04:39,390 --> 02:04:43,110 asymmetric tools that they had used on their own population 2101 02:04:43,110 --> 02:04:45,300 that they had used in Ukraine that they'd used in Eastern 2102 02:04:45,300 --> 02:04:48,120 Europe. They began using them very aggressively on us, right. 2103 02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:48,330 So 2104 02:04:48,330 --> 02:04:51,240 that's what was new about the incident with you is that it was 2105 02:04:51,240 --> 02:04:55,050 taking this playbook, arguably sort of a KGB playbook adapted 2106 02:04:55,050 --> 02:04:56,820 to a new technological era. 2107 02:04:57,180 --> 02:05:01,800 But this is baffling. Come to me. And they're in agreement. 2108 02:05:02,070 --> 02:05:03,090 Like this is new. 2109 02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:09,450 Right taking that playbook, and they used it in their 2110 02:05:09,750 --> 02:05:11,040 neighboring countries, correct? 2111 02:05:11,070 --> 02:05:13,890 Actually, you know, I should be grateful that they used a tape 2112 02:05:13,890 --> 02:05:16,920 rather than polonium. Right. 2113 02:05:18,150 --> 02:05:20,910 Well, they also they didn't get your email. Yes. 2114 02:05:23,340 --> 02:05:25,800 Well, we'll talk about that another time. 2115 02:05:26,010 --> 02:05:28,290 Okay. We'll talk about your emails. 2116 02:05:29,070 --> 02:05:33,420 So, needless to say, she doesn't go back to the emails that 2117 02:05:33,420 --> 02:05:36,780 Nudelman just said there that they she admitted they someone 2118 02:05:37,050 --> 02:05:40,230 she would claim the Russians hacked into her email, which we 2119 02:05:40,230 --> 02:05:45,000 have not heard of. This is a huge scoop. Huge, and it and 2120 02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:49,740 she's, she's flustered for a moment. Yeah. He's got to go 2121 02:05:49,740 --> 02:05:53,610 back. She's flustered. And then she said, well, we'll just talk 2122 02:05:53,610 --> 02:05:54,780 about that another time taking that 2123 02:05:54,780 --> 02:05:58,350 playbook. And they used it in their neighboring countries. 2124 02:05:58,350 --> 02:05:58,680 Correct? 2125 02:05:58,710 --> 02:06:01,500 Actually, you know, I should be grateful that they used a tape 2126 02:06:01,500 --> 02:06:02,820 rather than polonium, right. 2127 02:06:04,050 --> 02:06:06,150 Well, that's right. They also they didn't get your email. 2128 02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:11,310 Well, we'll talk about that another time. 2129 02:06:11,550 --> 02:06:13,830 Okay. We'll talk about your emails. 2130 02:06:14,220 --> 02:06:17,220 No, and you don't because you're friends with her and she gave 2131 02:06:17,220 --> 02:06:23,310 you the old ixnay on the email a story a wink wink, wink, nudge 2132 02:06:23,310 --> 02:06:30,210 nudge. really despicable. So, she's back. 2133 02:06:32,010 --> 02:06:34,740 Well, she's, she's a creep. 2134 02:06:35,850 --> 02:06:39,180 I'm gonna show my school by donation to no agenda. Imagine 2135 02:06:39,180 --> 02:06:41,880 all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun 2136 02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:52,620 you know, I'm going to have to figure out I had to do a lot of 2137 02:06:52,620 --> 02:06:57,990 work on with spreadsheets because the spreadsheet that one 2138 02:06:57,990 --> 02:07:02,040 cell that wouldn't expand like it does on the old on the, 2139 02:07:03,060 --> 02:07:08,730 whatever spreadsheet brand I was using. It does go if you if you 2140 02:07:08,760 --> 02:07:12,150 keep expanding it manually, you can see all that other stuff. 2141 02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:15,120 But you can click on it and click on it doesn't get any 2142 02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:19,650 bigger. This other one, this red one that comes from Nick s 2143 02:07:19,710 --> 02:07:23,970 $155.55 and Pell Mira, Pennsylvania. He has a long 2144 02:07:23,970 --> 02:07:30,480 note. It's all here. Yeah. So there's something Miss, I 2145 02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:35,550 believe. Anyway, he's, he needs some he's got something in here. 2146 02:07:35,550 --> 02:07:37,470 He's got to call out. Find it. 2147 02:07:37,530 --> 02:07:41,460 I see. He calls out the following as douchebags Ricky 2148 02:07:43,170 --> 02:07:50,400 the next on list is Jason and Sam. Yeah, douchebags. 2149 02:07:54,090 --> 02:07:59,130 Sir Zhaohua is anything else and there we go. Okay, yeah, we get 2150 02:07:59,130 --> 02:08:04,290 some karma at the end, sir. Zhaohua in Saskatchewan, Canada. 2151 02:08:04,290 --> 02:08:13,110 $123.45. Jeff Burritt Bereiche beer ich in Queens Creek, 2152 02:08:13,110 --> 02:08:23,250 Arizona. 123 45. Joe Jose Abreu. And Lisbon, Portugal, Portugal. 2153 02:08:25,380 --> 02:08:30,180 $100.70 Michael Smith in Charlotte, Michigan. $100.33. 2154 02:08:30,420 --> 02:08:32,400 You can read these notes if there's anything important. 2155 02:08:32,730 --> 02:08:38,340 Anonymous. someplace in the army. $100.07 Mark Hall your 2156 02:08:38,340 --> 02:08:39,840 buddy in Austin, Texas. Hey, 2157 02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:44,790 Mark 100. Do John Adam blade congrats for 1000 episodes of no 2158 02:08:44,790 --> 02:08:48,180 agenda. Please keep going full bore. Also, I'd like to ask for 2159 02:08:48,180 --> 02:08:50,610 some health karma. Well, of course it's coming up, Mark. You 2160 02:08:50,610 --> 02:08:50,940 bet. 2161 02:08:51,810 --> 02:08:58,620 Daniel Warren in Boise, Boise, Boise, Boise, Idaho. He's got a 2162 02:08:58,620 --> 02:09:03,090 little note there for me. I want to check out Melissa implement 2163 02:09:03,090 --> 02:09:07,260 say, Melissa implemente implemente she's the only one 2164 02:09:07,260 --> 02:09:10,710 that found that hidden the hidden Aruba. Yes on the Fort 2165 02:09:10,710 --> 02:09:11,610 Worth Texas 2166 02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:14,280 and I'm glad we paused on this because there's another birthday 2167 02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:16,560 that Eric didn't put on the list. He's really slagging 2168 02:09:17,340 --> 02:09:21,960 slagging Yeah. What that means well, he's sucking where's the 2169 02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:24,390 birthday? Oh, that's right. Yeah, I wished my handsome 2170 02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:30,180 boyfriend sir gadget virtuous a very happy birthday. Sir Brian 2171 02:09:30,180 --> 02:09:35,010 Greene of hams are buddy in New York City. 7373 is Casey nine YJ 2172 02:09:35,010 --> 02:09:39,750 M 606. Small but perky donation from anonymous and parts. 2173 02:09:41,940 --> 02:09:42,900 Small but perky. 2174 02:09:43,830 --> 02:09:48,690 Jane is more in San Pablo, California. Jean morphus 55. 2175 02:09:48,990 --> 02:09:53,160 James Morris 60. Gene morphus 5555. Nice work, gentlemen. 2176 02:09:53,400 --> 02:09:59,190 We'll share it in Madison, Wisconsin. We have a cancer call 2177 02:09:59,190 --> 02:10:03,390 out there. 5510 Got it, sir. Pain in the ass in Richmond 2178 02:10:03,690 --> 02:10:07,800 might get Richmond Virginia. Mike gates in Colorado Springs 2179 02:10:07,800 --> 02:10:10,950 Colorado and the following your $50 donors name and location jet 2180 02:10:10,950 --> 02:10:14,730 Zach Taylor in West Melbourne, Florida. Drew more chat and more 2181 02:10:14,730 --> 02:10:19,620 check in nocerino California, Allen Peterson's in St. Louis 2182 02:10:19,620 --> 02:10:24,930 Missouri Donald Richards Parts Unknown Robert decani You think 2183 02:10:24,930 --> 02:10:31,890 that Kenny destiny in Fairfax, Virginia Richard Gardner? Brett 2184 02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:36,630 yo and Kenton Catonsville, Catonsville, Maryland, Jonathan 2185 02:10:36,630 --> 02:10:41,040 Ferris and liberal Kansas, Robert Bruckner Parts Unknown, 2186 02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:45,570 Kirsten Gleb, who's actually popped money. And Kyle Meyer, 2187 02:10:45,570 --> 02:10:50,100 the last donor from Atlanta, Georgia, I want to thank 2188 02:10:50,100 --> 02:10:53,130 everybody for helping us out here produce this show. One 2189 02:10:53,130 --> 02:10:55,020 double oh seven. Yes, 2190 02:10:55,080 --> 02:10:58,530 thank you so much. Also, thanks to those who came in under $50. 2191 02:10:58,530 --> 02:11:01,410 A lot of you are on our subscriptions, they really do 2192 02:11:01,410 --> 02:11:05,100 sustain the show. So consider taking on a subscription to 2193 02:11:05,100 --> 02:11:09,990 vortec.org/na It is our value for value model right after the 2194 02:11:09,990 --> 02:11:14,340 knighting ceremony went talk a bit about the advertising issue 2195 02:11:14,340 --> 02:11:18,120 online, which shows I think, once again, that you are part of 2196 02:11:18,120 --> 02:11:23,280 a very successful and very modern experiment 10 years and 2197 02:11:23,280 --> 02:11:25,800 still going but I think we're still in it's still an 2198 02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:29,490 experiment. Would you agree? 2199 02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:31,350 I would agree. 100%. 2200 02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:36,720 But we're on the we're on we were on to something for sure. 2201 02:11:36,810 --> 02:11:41,550 And it's not just the money. It's the entire production. It's 2202 02:11:41,550 --> 02:11:47,250 the with no we have 1000s of producers no news organization 2203 02:11:47,250 --> 02:11:51,990 has the sheer numbers and knowledge that are no agenda 2204 02:11:51,990 --> 02:11:55,890 community has no one has it? It's just you know, it's imagine 2205 02:11:55,890 --> 02:12:00,060 that who has a Rolodex like that in news with 1000 10,000 people 2206 02:12:00,060 --> 02:12:05,100 a wall of dudes named Ben, I mean real skills, pilots, 2207 02:12:05,130 --> 02:12:10,560 dentists, doctors, lawyers, the assistance of important people 2208 02:12:10,860 --> 02:12:15,030 who has that nobody has that. So it is your show. It really truly 2209 02:12:15,030 --> 02:12:18,450 is. And we thank you for participating in every way that 2210 02:12:18,450 --> 02:12:22,170 you do. Now, we had some Error Corrections. And this was kind 2211 02:12:22,170 --> 02:12:25,050 of funny. We had the chef donations from one double O 2212 02:12:25,050 --> 02:12:29,640 five. And the explanation is even more confusing. It's great, 2213 02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:33,900 but they do come through for us. So it was Ali and Adam see 2214 02:12:33,900 --> 02:12:37,170 banks. There was some confusion in last Sunday's donation 2215 02:12:37,170 --> 02:12:40,770 segment very common for people to butcher roleplays. Name it is 2216 02:12:40,770 --> 02:12:45,390 ro bleh. Is Somali. In the I said roleplay. I think we did in 2217 02:12:45,390 --> 02:12:47,850 the executive producer credits for show one double oh five, 2218 02:12:47,940 --> 02:12:52,170 please update it. We will double oh, by the way, I'm not sure 2219 02:12:52,170 --> 02:12:54,870 whether we will double check on our side follow up. I'm not 2220 02:12:54,870 --> 02:12:58,710 quite sure what went wrong. But they do end by saying because we 2221 02:12:58,710 --> 02:13:01,440 were douchebags for so long as well as our donation. We would 2222 02:13:01,440 --> 02:13:04,860 like to volunteer our services as Chef consultants for the no 2223 02:13:04,860 --> 02:13:07,710 agenda show. Once in a while there will be questions or 2224 02:13:07,710 --> 02:13:10,320 disputes about food that come up on the show and we will be the 2225 02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:12,600 ones to help give answers and clarify. 2226 02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:16,710 As in clarified butter. Yes. 2227 02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:20,940 And I think that again, what organization has that? 2228 02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:27,540 Yes, we have a chef we have her are official chefs. 2229 02:13:27,570 --> 02:13:30,540 I can hear you. I can hear you going wash it. Wait a minute, is 2230 02:13:30,600 --> 02:13:34,620 there going to call me out? I'm being wrong? No, no, it's not 2231 02:13:34,620 --> 02:13:35,130 gonna happen. 2232 02:13:35,790 --> 02:13:39,810 I have another it's not a make good but it's something that we 2233 02:13:39,810 --> 02:13:42,180 need to read before we get to the end. Because you do have 2234 02:13:42,180 --> 02:13:46,260 knighting today because if you notice the peerage committee has 2235 02:13:46,260 --> 02:13:50,520 had been been hung it up. Yes. Yes, a number of complaints. 2236 02:13:50,550 --> 02:13:55,080 Okay, and I think this is resolved by one of our producers 2237 02:13:55,080 --> 02:14:02,580 air eras. Producer eras eat are easy. In a region and the recent 2238 02:14:02,580 --> 02:14:04,770 show there's been a mention that someone wanted to take the name 2239 02:14:04,770 --> 02:14:08,040 of source something and that it was challenged by someone else 2240 02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:11,340 who was already knighted as Sir something and that the peerage 2241 02:14:11,340 --> 02:14:16,860 committee was debating. Please debate no longer and we are 2242 02:14:16,920 --> 02:14:20,490 accepting this as a memo of understanding. A Knight's name 2243 02:14:20,490 --> 02:14:23,400 title is not like a protectorate a land cannot belong to two 2244 02:14:23,400 --> 02:14:26,700 nobles at the same rank but a name or a title if three guys 2245 02:14:26,700 --> 02:14:29,910 named Morel for being knighted they can all be sir Ralph. Same 2246 02:14:29,910 --> 02:14:32,910 with Sir Dave Sir Mark Dame Jenny de Mary and the same goes 2247 02:14:32,910 --> 02:14:36,510 to any source some things you cannot reserve a name as it was 2248 02:14:36,540 --> 02:14:40,260 as if it was land or internet domain name or a commercial 2249 02:14:40,260 --> 02:14:43,530 brand is only your name. The first of the SIR some things can 2250 02:14:43,530 --> 02:14:47,040 ask the ladder to relinquish the chosen name but if the ladder 2251 02:14:47,040 --> 02:14:50,940 refuses either guns at dawn or suck it up, whatever the joins 2252 02:14:50,940 --> 02:14:58,410 you. You're accepting that as it's a perfect position. Yes, 2253 02:14:58,890 --> 02:15:01,770 yes. But if you have Have the AOL keyword I think you get some 2254 02:15:01,770 --> 02:15:05,250 preference to be like that. Alright everybody thank you 2255 02:15:05,250 --> 02:15:08,640 again so value for value model dvorak.org/a Another show coming 2256 02:15:08,640 --> 02:15:15,570 up on Thursday vo rec.org/and A very important jobs and have 2257 02:15:15,570 --> 02:15:21,390 cancer karma jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for job 2258 02:15:26,790 --> 02:15:27,420 karma 2259 02:15:36,600 --> 02:15:39,030 British short list we start off with Melissa who says Happy 2260 02:15:39,030 --> 02:15:42,180 Birthday to serve gadget virtuoso sir ABS Happy Birthday 2261 02:15:42,180 --> 02:15:45,330 to his wife three t mintop. She will be celebrating on 2262 02:15:45,330 --> 02:15:50,070 Valentine's Day February 14 and Jamie Christiansen turns 5555 2263 02:15:50,070 --> 02:15:52,350 times around the Sun happy birthday from your buddies here 2264 02:15:52,350 --> 02:15:57,990 at the best podcast in the universe. Two nice things. It's 2265 02:15:57,990 --> 02:16:00,510 been a while since we've had any knighting so I'm happy about 2266 02:16:00,510 --> 02:16:07,770 that blades. Yes, thank you very much. Roger Colburn. Morgan 2267 02:16:07,770 --> 02:16:11,160 Corkhill step up on stage both of you are about to join the 2268 02:16:11,160 --> 02:16:13,170 roundtable with the no agenda nights and names for your 2269 02:16:13,170 --> 02:16:15,180 contributions to the best podcasts University amount of 2270 02:16:15,180 --> 02:16:18,840 $1,000 or more and I hereby proudly pronounced the game be 2271 02:16:19,470 --> 02:16:23,070 barren Roger Colburn, Sir James Bond of episode one double oh 2272 02:16:23,070 --> 02:16:26,820 seven. And Sir Captain Morgan for you, gentlemen. We have 2273 02:16:26,820 --> 02:16:29,250 Captain Morgans and women with questionable reputation we've 2274 02:16:29,250 --> 02:16:31,920 got kebab and Persian wine brisket and barrel aged copper 2275 02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:35,220 ale. We've got pepperoni rolls and pale ales, we got harlots 2276 02:16:35,220 --> 02:16:38,550 and held all fish by fellatio diet soda and video games breast 2277 02:16:38,550 --> 02:16:41,520 milk and pablum bong hits in bourbon cases and sock a 2278 02:16:41,520 --> 02:16:45,240 sparkling sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and Jerboas. 2279 02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:46,650 And of course, the ever effervescent 2280 02:16:46,680 --> 02:16:48,330 mutton and Mead. 2281 02:16:49,469 --> 02:16:53,519 And head over to no agenda nation.com/rings Give Eric a 2282 02:16:53,519 --> 02:16:56,399 show your size. And when you get everything in, tweeted when I 2283 02:16:56,399 --> 02:17:00,059 saw three this past week, there was a really good one from West 2284 02:17:00,059 --> 02:17:02,699 Texas. Do you see that with a guy had like his fists with a 2285 02:17:02,699 --> 02:17:05,009 ring and a big oil rig in the background? 2286 02:17:05,580 --> 02:17:08,580 I didn't see that. I retweeted when I see him. 2287 02:17:08,610 --> 02:17:12,240 It's on the tweeters. Yeah, it's very good. Now you sent me this 2288 02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:15,030 article about Newsweek. And I knew that they were going 2289 02:17:15,030 --> 02:17:17,880 through some crap, but this really was is quite 2290 02:17:17,880 --> 02:17:19,110 extraordinary. 2291 02:17:19,740 --> 02:17:22,980 Yeah, tell us your read from it, read read from it. And 2292 02:17:22,980 --> 02:17:25,200 the publisher of Newsweek and the Internet, International 2293 02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:28,560 Business Times has been engaging in fraudulent online traffic 2294 02:17:28,560 --> 02:17:32,670 practices that helped secure a major ad buy from a US 2295 02:17:32,670 --> 02:17:35,820 government agency, according to a new report released today by 2296 02:17:35,850 --> 02:17:40,830 independent ad fraud researchers. That is the meat of 2297 02:17:40,830 --> 02:17:45,180 the story. They were invaded by the Attorney General's office, 2298 02:17:45,300 --> 02:17:50,640 they had a raid for their books and their computers. And, you 2299 02:17:50,640 --> 02:17:53,670 know, this has now gotten down to the newsroom of blame game in 2300 02:17:53,670 --> 02:17:56,070 the newsroom, which maybe you can speak to. 2301 02:17:57,600 --> 02:18:00,420 Well, now we're having there was a couple of things going on with 2302 02:18:00,420 --> 02:18:04,920 his with the, the publisher and the editor. And a lot of people 2303 02:18:04,920 --> 02:18:09,000 quit. Because because these are these are these insightful 2304 02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:12,420 reporters that don't seem to understand what's going on. And 2305 02:18:12,420 --> 02:18:15,090 then they, when they found out a little bit, they decided to 2306 02:18:15,090 --> 02:18:16,590 report on it. Maybe a 2307 02:18:16,590 --> 02:18:19,620 strange maybe a strange question. But could you explain 2308 02:18:19,650 --> 02:18:22,590 the functions of the editor versus the publisher? 2309 02:18:22,860 --> 02:18:27,720 The publisher sells ads, the editor, Phil creates content? 2310 02:18:28,140 --> 02:18:32,190 Are they on equal footing? Depends. It's varies from 2311 02:18:32,190 --> 02:18:35,490 publication to publication. There's some structures are very 2312 02:18:35,490 --> 02:18:39,090 complicated. And some structures are very simple. And generally 2313 02:18:39,090 --> 02:18:42,510 speaking, they're both very powerful, and they're both tried 2314 02:18:42,510 --> 02:18:46,620 to keep to themselves. And one side sells ads and fills up the 2315 02:18:46,620 --> 02:18:50,520 ads and pays for the editors to create content to put into the 2316 02:18:50,550 --> 02:18:54,300 publication. Yeah, in a nutshell. And they're not 2317 02:18:54,300 --> 02:19:00,180 supposed to intermingle? Because it is church and state. Yes, 2318 02:19:00,180 --> 02:19:00,870 yes. Yes. 2319 02:19:01,530 --> 02:19:03,420 It's a Chinese wall. 2320 02:19:03,660 --> 02:19:07,320 So one of the reporters, I guess, wrote up some of the 2321 02:19:07,710 --> 02:19:11,850 hanky panky in an article about their own paper, or about 2322 02:19:11,850 --> 02:19:14,880 Newsweek itself. And this got everybody bent out of shape, 2323 02:19:14,880 --> 02:19:19,200 because the reporter and the editor said, Well, we're just 2324 02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:23,040 reporting based on the facts that are and then the approach 2325 02:19:23,040 --> 02:19:25,050 is just a badass, we're gonna you're gonna put us out of 2326 02:19:25,050 --> 02:19:31,500 business, you idiots. And it is usually not done. I mean, when 2327 02:19:32,309 --> 02:19:35,399 well, but the tension, the tension with online 2328 02:19:35,399 --> 02:19:38,549 publications, because this is really all about online. And, 2329 02:19:38,609 --> 02:19:41,609 and to reiterate, we've discussed many times on this 2330 02:19:41,609 --> 02:19:46,949 show. What can make money? Well, I was gonna say the way it's 2331 02:19:46,949 --> 02:19:52,409 done is you go to companies like Monopoly Inc. And there's other 2332 02:19:52,439 --> 02:19:55,949 outfits out there. You say, Okay, I want to 2 million clicks 2333 02:19:55,949 --> 02:19:59,969 this month. Okay, that'll cost you. There'll be a $5 CPM. 2334 02:19:59,999 --> 02:20:04,979 That's cost per 1000. So that would be $5,000 for 1,002,000 2335 02:20:04,979 --> 02:20:08,519 for 10,000 for 2 million, and then you turn around and you 2336 02:20:08,519 --> 02:20:14,489 sell that, those clicks, those so called views, or clicks or 2337 02:20:14,489 --> 02:20:18,479 views or whatever it is more views, but you sell that for $7. 2338 02:20:18,479 --> 02:20:21,059 CPM that I'm just giving you numbers, there's a spread in 2339 02:20:21,059 --> 02:20:23,969 there. It's called arbitrage and that's how they make money. But 2340 02:20:23,969 --> 02:20:29,039 you still have the pressure of creating stories that get 2341 02:20:29,039 --> 02:20:32,789 clicks, which and that's what the publisher was then mad at 2342 02:20:32,789 --> 02:20:36,959 the editor, because they would they did some bogus story. Which 2343 02:20:36,959 --> 02:20:37,709 story was that? 2344 02:20:37,740 --> 02:20:40,410 There seems to be a lot of bitching and moaning going 2345 02:20:40,410 --> 02:20:44,820 around, but from both sides. Yeah. I found that yeah, they 2346 02:20:44,820 --> 02:20:48,150 weren't doing enough clickbait. Yeah, they didn't have enough 2347 02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:51,420 clickbait for sure. It wasn't enough clickbait, which is true 2348 02:20:51,420 --> 02:20:55,860 gold through. And there was also the way they were doing it was, 2349 02:20:55,890 --> 02:20:59,070 you know, buying? They were obviously they never said in 2350 02:20:59,070 --> 02:21:02,700 here, but it was obviously they were buying clicks from click 2351 02:21:02,700 --> 02:21:07,650 farms. Yes. Which is verboten. It's against the law. Oh, 2352 02:21:07,650 --> 02:21:09,510 I didn't realize it's against the law. 2353 02:21:09,900 --> 02:21:12,240 I think as it gets, yes, it's advertising fraud. 2354 02:21:12,300 --> 02:21:16,110 Well, then all of Silicon Valley can go down the tubes. 2355 02:21:16,110 --> 02:21:17,430 Everybody's doing this. 2356 02:21:18,360 --> 02:21:23,340 I think you've been saying that for years. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, I 2357 02:21:23,340 --> 02:21:25,770 guess what you haven't been hearing for years is against the 2358 02:21:25,770 --> 02:21:26,550 law, I did 2359 02:21:26,550 --> 02:21:29,400 not realize it was actually illegal to do. It's 2360 02:21:29,400 --> 02:21:35,670 fraud. Just simple fraud. Gotcha. And no matter how you do 2361 02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:38,490 it, you're gonna do something that people use bots, bots come 2362 02:21:38,490 --> 02:21:41,790 in to click away, or the bots are trained to go onto a page 2363 02:21:42,690 --> 02:21:45,840 from different IP addresses, click on a couple of things as 2364 02:21:45,840 --> 02:21:51,720 if they were actually there. And then go away, and come in again, 2365 02:21:51,720 --> 02:21:54,540 two seconds later, with a different IP address spoofing 2366 02:21:54,540 --> 02:21:57,210 something else, and they gotta wait, there's ways of doing 2367 02:21:57,210 --> 02:22:00,660 this. And there's people who have set up shop all over the 2368 02:22:00,660 --> 02:22:06,030 world that do this. In some cases they may be the more 2369 02:22:06,030 --> 02:22:09,390 advanced versions are in the Philippines. And I think in 2370 02:22:09,390 --> 02:22:13,590 India, where they have people there, instead of a bot, you 2371 02:22:13,590 --> 02:22:16,350 actually have people coming in every couple of seconds. And 2372 02:22:16,350 --> 02:22:18,810 there's you have you can have a room of 100 people, they can 2373 02:22:18,960 --> 02:22:19,980 crank crank up a lot 2374 02:22:19,980 --> 02:22:23,250 of numbers, the Philippines is where you get that service 2375 02:22:23,250 --> 02:22:24,030 Philippines 2376 02:22:24,030 --> 02:22:27,540 together, this is what they said. And they go in there 2377 02:22:27,540 --> 02:22:29,700 clicking on different kinds of random stuff. So it's almost 2378 02:22:29,700 --> 02:22:32,910 impossible to determine, except for the fact that they're in the 2379 02:22:32,910 --> 02:22:38,040 Philippines. Minor minor point, it's hard to just stop that 2380 02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:42,780 because of the bot thing. So it's the whole thing is really 2381 02:22:42,870 --> 02:22:46,500 the I've seen all these online operations that are supposedly 2382 02:22:46,500 --> 02:22:50,580 making a lot of money doing this, or doing this Yeah, 2383 02:22:50,580 --> 02:22:53,370 especially with a lot of the video operations in particular. 2384 02:22:54,150 --> 02:23:02,430 And eight because nobody really has a way to perfectly monetize 2385 02:23:04,140 --> 02:23:07,650 doing what you could do in print and on television, to do that 2386 02:23:07,650 --> 02:23:12,300 online and make money. It's done, it can't be done. I think 2387 02:23:12,300 --> 02:23:17,520 it can be done. Not not with this model. I just said I think 2388 02:23:17,520 --> 02:23:21,420 it can be done. I have no idea how to do it. I mean, what we do 2389 02:23:21,420 --> 02:23:24,780 is like just bypassing the model and doing and going with a very 2390 02:23:24,780 --> 02:23:28,650 old fashioned model, which is you help us keep the show going 2391 02:23:28,650 --> 02:23:32,190 by contributing to it. And that's that's goes back to the 2392 02:23:32,190 --> 02:23:36,120 dark ages as before anyone even dreamed up an advertisement. But 2393 02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:41,850 there's gotta be a way of doing it. I don't know what it is. But 2394 02:23:41,850 --> 02:23:46,050 this you think then again, maybe the numbers are just so low 2395 02:23:46,050 --> 02:23:50,070 because nobody really you know, I mean, YouTube has probably got 2396 02:23:50,070 --> 02:23:52,380 the most clicks going through and I don't see that to not lose 2397 02:23:52,380 --> 02:23:55,650 in their ass. Oh they definitely is in millions and millions of 2398 02:23:55,980 --> 02:23:59,550 definitely you to eventually shutter they're going to shutter 2399 02:23:59,550 --> 02:23:59,610 it 2400 02:24:00,630 --> 02:24:02,670 well that's why they keep experimenting now they got this 2401 02:24:02,670 --> 02:24:05,130 TV thing they're advertising which I'm sure it's costing them 2402 02:24:05,130 --> 02:24:06,300 a fortune to advertise. 2403 02:24:06,539 --> 02:24:09,749 Well, not just to advertise they have to get all the licenses 2404 02:24:10,349 --> 02:24:16,259 Yes, i Big deal. If Google was forced to spin out their numbers 2405 02:24:16,259 --> 02:24:20,429 really spin them out instead of just throwing out vague numbers 2406 02:24:20,429 --> 02:24:23,489 losing proposition which is impossible to get them to do 2407 02:24:23,489 --> 02:24:26,879 because of the nature there's a stock is all class you know, 2408 02:24:26,879 --> 02:24:29,219 some sort of class you have no voting rights. You can't do 2409 02:24:29,219 --> 02:24:34,589 anything. It's a dumb shot. At the we see that YouTube is gotta 2410 02:24:34,589 --> 02:24:40,799 be just a huge dog, a dog. But there's no way of taking the New 2411 02:24:40,799 --> 02:24:43,919 York Times. I mean, they've Yeah, they charge you for this, 2412 02:24:43,919 --> 02:24:46,859 but like people say, you know, just click on the private 2413 02:24:46,859 --> 02:24:51,089 browser and you can get the New York Times for free. You don't 2414 02:24:51,089 --> 02:24:53,609 have that limit. I mean, it's all and it's all the hacking 2415 02:24:53,609 --> 02:24:57,059 going on not hacking, but yeah, hacking. So people are 2416 02:24:57,059 --> 02:25:00,749 downloading movies. And again, free content here is In the 2417 02:25:00,749 --> 02:25:04,019 online things to disaster for publishers and people who want 2418 02:25:04,019 --> 02:25:05,129 to do media in general 2419 02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:09,180 in the old way, yes. If you're used 2420 02:25:09,179 --> 02:25:12,449 to the old way, there's no new way. I mean, Google found a new 2421 02:25:12,449 --> 02:25:15,989 way to make money from search. That's and that's the last new 2422 02:25:15,989 --> 02:25:17,219 thoughts anyone had. 2423 02:25:17,250 --> 02:25:20,040 That's new. You're right. That's new. That's the only thing 2424 02:25:20,040 --> 02:25:24,870 that's really new. Yeah. Now that journalists are moving into 2425 02:25:24,870 --> 02:25:28,050 a new protected class, you'll be happy to hear, although I'm not 2426 02:25:28,050 --> 02:25:31,740 sure you qualify, we will look through the documentation. There 2427 02:25:31,740 --> 02:25:37,440 is a bill, HR 4935 may also be cited as the journalist 2428 02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:43,350 Protection Act. We Yes, in general, and this is something 2429 02:25:43,350 --> 02:25:46,380 that gets added to Chapter Seven title 18. United States Code. 2430 02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:50,670 This is assault against journalists general whenever in 2431 02:25:50,670 --> 02:25:53,430 or affecting interstate or foreign commerce intentionally 2432 02:25:53,430 --> 02:25:58,080 commits or attempts to commit a an act described in subsection B 2433 02:25:58,110 --> 02:26:00,660 I'll explain that shall be fined under this title or imprisoned 2434 02:26:00,660 --> 02:26:05,430 no more than three years. Or both. It says both should be 2435 02:26:05,430 --> 02:26:09,810 some money there. But you can get maximum six years for 2436 02:26:09,810 --> 02:26:13,440 creating bodily injury to a journalist. An act describing 2437 02:26:13,440 --> 02:26:16,410 this subsection is an act that causes a bodily injury to an 2438 02:26:16,410 --> 02:26:21,300 individual who A is a journalist, be committed with 2439 02:26:21,300 --> 02:26:24,900 knowledge or reason to no such individual is a journalist and 2440 02:26:24,930 --> 02:26:28,590 three committed while such journalist is taking part in 2441 02:26:28,590 --> 02:26:31,440 news gathering or with the intention of intimidating or 2442 02:26:31,440 --> 02:26:35,670 impeding news gathering by such a journalist. And then we have 2443 02:26:35,670 --> 02:26:38,730 the serious bodily injury to a journalist, which is the same so 2444 02:26:38,730 --> 02:26:44,040 it's really these two things. They define a few pieces in this 2445 02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:47,040 which is important news gathering. The term news 2446 02:26:47,040 --> 02:26:50,640 gathering means engaging in the regular gathering, preparation, 2447 02:26:50,640 --> 02:26:53,190 collection, photographing, recording, writing, editing, 2448 02:26:53,190 --> 02:26:56,070 reporting, or publishing concerning local, national 2449 02:26:56,070 --> 02:26:59,160 international events or other matters of public interest. I 2450 02:26:59,160 --> 02:27:02,310 think we we do that we gather news that way. 2451 02:27:05,250 --> 02:27:05,970 That's all we do. 2452 02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:07,440 But what is the journalist? 2453 02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:09,960 Does it say yes, 2454 02:27:10,560 --> 02:27:13,170 this is the legal definition now. Oh, we 2455 02:27:13,170 --> 02:27:15,360 have a legal definition of something that's, that's 2456 02:27:15,360 --> 02:27:18,600 protected by the US Constitution. Okay, I like to 2457 02:27:18,600 --> 02:27:19,050 hear that. 2458 02:27:20,610 --> 02:27:25,410 The term journalist means an individual who is an employee, 2459 02:27:25,560 --> 02:27:29,850 independent contractor, or agent of an entity or service that 2460 02:27:29,850 --> 02:27:33,420 disseminates news or information. That's us so far, 2461 02:27:33,420 --> 02:27:39,930 so good, by means of newspaper, nonfiction book, wire service, 2462 02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:45,120 news agency, news website, mobile application or other news 2463 02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:48,030 or information service, whether distributed digitally or 2464 02:27:48,030 --> 02:27:52,860 otherwise, news program, magazine, or other periodical, 2465 02:27:52,890 --> 02:27:58,980 whether in print, electronic, or other format. And is broadcast 2466 02:27:58,980 --> 02:28:02,250 through television, radio, multi channel, video programming, 2467 02:28:02,250 --> 02:28:06,720 distributor, or motion picture for public showing, and with a 2468 02:28:06,720 --> 02:28:09,720 primary intent to investigate events or procure material in 2469 02:28:09,720 --> 02:28:12,060 order to disseminate the public news or information concerning 2470 02:28:12,060 --> 02:28:18,540 local blah, blah, blah. I'm sorry, you have to belong to an 2471 02:28:18,540 --> 02:28:21,810 organization that disseminates their news through television 2472 02:28:21,810 --> 02:28:25,650 broadcast, radio broadcast, multi channel video programming, 2473 02:28:25,650 --> 02:28:30,060 which is defined as a combination of those in the 2474 02:28:30,060 --> 02:28:36,510 Communications Act of 1934, or motion picture. So just a you 2475 02:28:36,510 --> 02:28:40,770 know you with your with your little podcast, you're not a 2476 02:28:40,770 --> 02:28:41,460 journalist. 2477 02:28:43,590 --> 02:28:47,880 I have other outlets. You're not a journalist. 2478 02:28:48,480 --> 02:28:51,930 Are you on broadcast radio, multichannel video programming 2479 02:28:51,960 --> 02:28:55,080 or radio broadcast? No. 2480 02:28:56,160 --> 02:29:02,370 What about print prints covered by the by the First Amendment? I 2481 02:29:02,370 --> 02:29:06,690 thought it just said you you're a news distribution company. In 2482 02:29:06,690 --> 02:29:09,690 unless you're on on the TV, you're not a journalist. Is that 2483 02:29:09,690 --> 02:29:10,620 what you're reading? To me? 2484 02:29:11,100 --> 02:29:12,240 That's what it sounds like. 2485 02:29:13,470 --> 02:29:15,360 What about the magazines? What about the newspaper? What are 2486 02:29:15,360 --> 02:29:17,700 the New York Times? How's that not covered by 2487 02:29:17,730 --> 02:29:20,310 the you know, I'm just telling you how it's written. It's very 2488 02:29:20,340 --> 02:29:21,030 unclear. 2489 02:29:22,620 --> 02:29:25,320 Well, I wouldn't be up in arms. If I was at the New York Times 2490 02:29:25,350 --> 02:29:25,710 or if 2491 02:29:25,710 --> 02:29:28,020 you were a journalist, maybe you should consider being up in 2492 02:29:28,020 --> 02:29:28,470 arms. 2493 02:29:29,670 --> 02:29:32,070 Yeah, they won't be up and no normally gets up in arms unless 2494 02:29:32,070 --> 02:29:35,700 it's about Trump. Blame Trump somehow and then you get up in 2495 02:29:35,700 --> 02:29:36,060 arms. 2496 02:29:37,410 --> 02:29:43,590 Well, anyway, and it's always a little disappointing. But with 2497 02:29:43,620 --> 02:29:45,900 you know, the breadth of knowledge that we have the 2498 02:29:45,900 --> 02:29:49,290 amount of people that we have who contribute to this program, 2499 02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:53,100 when the most emailed articles about the emotional support 2500 02:29:53,100 --> 02:29:57,720 hamster. I mean, the thing the thing is, like, people want us 2501 02:29:57,720 --> 02:30:00,690 to go on a cover that story is so stupid. People want us 2502 02:30:00,690 --> 02:30:03,270 to go a little deeper. I understand because I've been on 2503 02:30:03,270 --> 02:30:07,050 the bus after the peacock. I thought we were kind of done 2504 02:30:07,050 --> 02:30:09,990 with laughing about it all like, okay, it's stupid. We know it. 2505 02:30:10,140 --> 02:30:13,110 But now it's still the number one most emailed article, 2506 02:30:13,140 --> 02:30:17,310 Texas State student is considering legal action after 2507 02:30:17,310 --> 02:30:22,710 she claims. Spirit Airlines told her to flush her support hamster 2508 02:30:22,710 --> 02:30:25,320 down the toilet. And she did it. 2509 02:30:25,530 --> 02:30:49,410 So flush please. Hold on to the facade I'll be back. 2510 02:30:55,620 --> 02:31:00,240 Okay, so wait a minute. Let me get this straight. So we're only 2511 02:31:00,240 --> 02:31:02,580 covering the short because somebody wrote a jingle like 2512 02:31:02,580 --> 02:31:02,760 that. 2513 02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:09,420 Yeah. That's the no agenda show right there, my friend. That is 2514 02:31:09,420 --> 02:31:14,640 how we roll? Yes. I looked into this. I was little irked about 2515 02:31:14,640 --> 02:31:19,290 this whole parade thing. And, you know, the Trump has not said 2516 02:31:19,290 --> 02:31:25,410 he wants this parade. And, you know, I did a deeper dive into 2517 02:31:25,410 --> 02:31:28,470 exactly what's going on. I actually found a really good I 2518 02:31:28,470 --> 02:31:31,770 thought it was a good conversation on CBS n of all 2519 02:31:31,770 --> 02:31:36,780 things. A CBS n is I think it's it only online. 2520 02:31:36,810 --> 02:31:39,420 Yes, the online news service. Yeah. 2521 02:31:39,720 --> 02:31:45,390 So they bring in this douchebag from some think tank. And it's 2522 02:31:45,420 --> 02:31:48,660 the whole conversation was, I mean, it was a little bit of 2523 02:31:48,660 --> 02:31:52,410 dimension, a lot of dimension B, but they're missing an important 2524 02:31:52,410 --> 02:31:54,600 fact, which I'll get to after this. But it's just listen to 2525 02:31:54,600 --> 02:31:57,360 these as two news hosts. And then this jabroni 2526 02:31:57,390 --> 02:32:00,570 earlier, we asked the DSU senior Global Affairs contributor and 2527 02:32:00,600 --> 02:32:04,590 president of the Eurasia group, Ian Bremmer about what this type 2528 02:32:04,590 --> 02:32:06,870 of message would send to the rest of the world. 2529 02:32:07,020 --> 02:32:10,620 First of all, you know, Trump likes the spectacle, that's 2530 02:32:10,620 --> 02:32:15,120 pretty clear. And while the, by the way, he has vocal fry, the 2531 02:32:15,120 --> 02:32:19,650 economy is doing quite well, right now. It's also clear to 2532 02:32:19,650 --> 02:32:22,560 most around the Trump administration that the ability 2533 02:32:22,560 --> 02:32:27,420 to actually really provide economically for Trump's base is 2534 02:32:27,420 --> 02:32:31,470 pretty, right. I mean, they're not doing all that much better 2535 02:32:31,470 --> 02:32:34,650 in the next four or eight years, given the lack of inclusive 2536 02:32:34,650 --> 02:32:37,500 growth that's happening, you can give them 1000 bucks, you know, 2537 02:32:37,500 --> 02:32:41,160 sort of in a tax bonus, you couldn't you saw the dollar 50 A 2538 02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:44,190 week, you know, Paul Ryan comment and the rest. But the 2539 02:32:44,190 --> 02:32:47,910 reality is that a lot of what Trump is giving them, is his 2540 02:32:47,910 --> 02:32:51,300 refusal to be politically correct is his going after the 2541 02:32:51,300 --> 02:32:55,200 NFL players for taking a knee? Is his board a wall, I'm going 2542 02:32:55,200 --> 02:32:59,310 to look out for people like you out for your security and your 2543 02:32:59,310 --> 02:33:02,250 stability. And, you know, this is a good example of that. It's 2544 02:33:02,250 --> 02:33:06,120 bread and circuses, right. And he wants to have a military 2545 02:33:06,120 --> 02:33:09,750 parade. And, you know, in times where people don't feel good, 2546 02:33:10,260 --> 02:33:15,540 having a national rallies around the flag in a way that really 2547 02:33:15,540 --> 02:33:16,230 divides. 2548 02:33:16,650 --> 02:33:19,590 And by the way, I'd like to point out based on his own 2549 02:33:19,590 --> 02:33:24,780 theory, that most of the military personnel come from the 2550 02:33:24,780 --> 02:33:31,350 states that Trump trumped up. So yes, of course, he's playing to 2551 02:33:31,350 --> 02:33:33,870 the base with this, if this is exactly what he's thinking, 2552 02:33:33,900 --> 02:33:37,590 us versus them, and you're a part of us, is a good feeling. 2553 02:33:37,590 --> 02:33:40,860 And so I think that politically, what Trump is doing is actually 2554 02:33:40,860 --> 02:33:43,980 quite smart. It's kind of like the memo. Right? I mean, he 2555 02:33:44,400 --> 02:33:47,100 released the memo and delegitimize the FBI. And if you 2556 02:33:47,100 --> 02:33:49,470 know, the investigation is a problem for you that the best 2557 02:33:49,470 --> 02:33:54,840 way to go is to have your base, just say, this entire process is 2558 02:33:54,870 --> 02:33:59,190 is not worthy of us in our country. It's fake, it's false. 2559 02:33:59,190 --> 02:34:01,680 And I think it's all part of the same message. And so far, I 2560 02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:02,610 mean, Trump one. 2561 02:34:04,080 --> 02:34:06,180 I don't think there's anybody who's, you know, an American 2562 02:34:06,210 --> 02:34:10,140 would not want to see our Sailors, Marines, soldiers, 2563 02:34:10,140 --> 02:34:14,130 airmen, you know, martial arts industry, and it's pretty cool 2564 02:34:14,130 --> 02:34:16,440 to see all that hardware. The fanboy in me would totally dig 2565 02:34:16,440 --> 02:34:18,570 that. The question is it really publican? And you know, it's 2566 02:34:18,570 --> 02:34:20,730 going to cost X amount of millions of dollars, where are 2567 02:34:20,730 --> 02:34:21,480 you going to get that money 2568 02:34:21,480 --> 02:34:24,270 now that I mean, the last time I think it was like $8 million, 2569 02:34:24,660 --> 02:34:27,060 and that was quite a number of years. That's a lot cheaper. 2570 02:34:27,060 --> 02:34:33,180 That number keeps changing. Was that that number cost and 91 is 2571 02:34:33,180 --> 02:34:37,860 eight 20 million is 5 million. It's unbelievable. We are 2572 02:34:37,860 --> 02:34:40,290 a wealthy country, right, you can find 2573 02:34:40,949 --> 02:34:43,499 here's a question and I know we're sort of going long but I 2574 02:34:43,499 --> 02:34:46,019 thought you know, a lot of people are going to ask why not? 2575 02:34:46,229 --> 02:34:49,319 Why not show off our hardware. They do do it in other 2576 02:34:49,319 --> 02:34:51,449 countries. I'm glad you just said that. Stealing they do the 2577 02:34:51,449 --> 02:34:51,689 best. 2578 02:34:53,070 --> 02:34:54,240 She said to do. 2579 02:34:56,100 --> 02:35:02,580 Queensboro Bridge can do it. So North Koreans can do it. Why 2580 02:35:02,580 --> 02:35:03,600 can't we have to see 2581 02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:07,140 how he's trying to bring it back to because? Well, the French did 2582 02:35:07,140 --> 02:35:10,680 it the English do it. And he's like, Yeah, North Koreans want 2583 02:35:10,680 --> 02:35:13,440 to make sure you see Eve all evil dictator. 2584 02:35:13,770 --> 02:35:20,550 That's ugly. You know, in the case of Europe, they've done it 2585 02:35:20,550 --> 02:35:22,380 for the Queen's right. The Brits have done it with everything. 2586 02:35:22,410 --> 02:35:23,550 We don't even have a clinic. 2587 02:35:23,580 --> 02:35:26,610 We don't have a queen. But it's not about synchronized 2588 02:35:26,610 --> 02:35:29,040 applause or, you know, we don't have a queen. I understand that. 2589 02:35:29,040 --> 02:35:35,160 But it is sort of a show of greatness. And I'm sure there 2590 02:35:35,160 --> 02:35:37,620 are a lot of people, Trump supporters, but probably not 2591 02:35:37,620 --> 02:35:41,430 Trump supporters who are gonna say, What's the big deal? You're 2592 02:35:41,460 --> 02:35:42,600 like, we do have the money. 2593 02:35:42,930 --> 02:35:45,660 Yeah, I think that the the opposition, because the country 2594 02:35:45,660 --> 02:35:49,050 is so divided right now, the easiest thing for those that 2595 02:35:49,050 --> 02:35:53,670 hate Trump to do is to simply point out how anti patriotic 2596 02:35:53,670 --> 02:35:57,300 Trump is personally, like this would be a much easier thing to 2597 02:35:57,330 --> 02:36:01,410 organize and get behind. If Trump were McCain. Right. I 2598 02:36:01,410 --> 02:36:03,030 mean, a war right. Oh, 2599 02:36:03,060 --> 02:36:06,210 do you hear what the saying that was? Right. Right. It's very 2600 02:36:06,210 --> 02:36:08,730 interesting, right? He's saying this would be much easier if it 2601 02:36:08,730 --> 02:36:14,220 was McCain. Everybody be like, Ah, sure is fantastic. Let's do 2602 02:36:14,220 --> 02:36:18,960 it. So, you know, it's it's all based on the premise that this 2603 02:36:18,960 --> 02:36:23,040 needs to be some kind of spur of the moment. Now maybe we funded 2604 02:36:23,040 --> 02:36:25,620 the whole thing with the military is the best. Let's go 2605 02:36:25,620 --> 02:36:27,990 show King Kim Jong Un Exactly. What 2606 02:36:27,990 --> 02:36:30,240 were your dynamics pay for it? They'll do it. 2607 02:36:30,630 --> 02:36:36,450 But what did Trump actually say and ask for? Allergy again, this 2608 02:36:36,450 --> 02:36:39,960 is his conversation with this is the only time he's mentioned it, 2609 02:36:39,990 --> 02:36:44,430 as far as I know. And from this, the Pentagon was readying for 2610 02:36:44,430 --> 02:36:48,120 something very specific. I mean, what do you just your your what 2611 02:36:48,120 --> 02:36:51,780 you've heard in the news, your own with your own biases, like 2612 02:36:51,780 --> 02:36:55,380 we all have? What do you believe they're talking about when they 2613 02:36:55,380 --> 02:36:58,650 say Trump wants a parade? What do you think it is supposed to 2614 02:36:58,650 --> 02:36:58,920 be? 2615 02:37:00,330 --> 02:37:04,230 I have no idea because I've taken already taken the position 2616 02:37:04,230 --> 02:37:08,340 that he never asked for a military parade. And it's, you 2617 02:37:08,340 --> 02:37:10,800 know, unless I hear Him say something like, I was talking to 2618 02:37:10,800 --> 02:37:16,560 him saying, use a shithole word. Yeah. It's nuts. I hear it now. 2619 02:37:16,560 --> 02:37:19,860 I'm not buying any because I think they just lie to us. Yes. 2620 02:37:19,950 --> 02:37:22,830 Well, you can't know because they lie so much. But here is 2621 02:37:22,830 --> 02:37:26,340 the only thing you said, which was with McCrone after he saw 2622 02:37:26,340 --> 02:37:31,080 the the French parade, the military? I did see this. Well, 2623 02:37:31,080 --> 02:37:33,840 yeah. Did you hear what he what he really said? Because I 2624 02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:36,750 vaguely remember he thought it was cool. And maybe we should do 2625 02:37:36,750 --> 02:37:37,560 something like that 2626 02:37:37,590 --> 02:37:40,920 I was your guest at the steel. And it was one of the greatest 2627 02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:46,170 parades I've ever seen. It was two hours on the button. And it 2628 02:37:46,170 --> 02:37:50,430 was military might. And I think a tremendous thing for France 2629 02:37:50,490 --> 02:37:54,300 and for the spirit of friends. And people don't know what great 2630 02:37:54,300 --> 02:37:57,180 warriors they are in France. But when you see that, and you see 2631 02:37:57,180 --> 02:38:01,050 all the victories. There was a tremendous today. And to a large 2632 02:38:01,050 --> 02:38:03,750 extent, because of what I witnessed, we may do something 2633 02:38:03,750 --> 02:38:06,870 like that on July 4, in Washington down. 2634 02:38:07,320 --> 02:38:13,230 That's a little different. July 4, we have all kinds of military 2635 02:38:13,230 --> 02:38:16,380 shit going on. Yeah, what's wrong with that? 2636 02:38:19,200 --> 02:38:20,640 He's it's trumped. 2637 02:38:20,880 --> 02:38:25,800 Okay, but it's July 4. And he reiterates it 2638 02:38:28,710 --> 02:38:32,700 I don't know, the topic, but we had a lot of planes going over 2639 02:38:32,700 --> 02:38:36,570 and we had a lot of military might. And it was really a 2640 02:38:36,570 --> 02:38:39,450 beautiful thing to see. They had representatives from different 2641 02:38:39,450 --> 02:38:42,780 wars and different beautiful rooms. It was really so well 2642 02:38:42,780 --> 02:38:46,620 done. But I came back. And one of my early calls where I think 2643 02:38:46,620 --> 02:38:48,600 we're gonna have to start looking at that stuff. So we're 2644 02:38:48,600 --> 02:38:53,130 actually thinking about Fourth of July, Pennsylvania Avenue 2645 02:38:53,130 --> 02:38:56,850 having a really great parade to show our military strength. 2646 02:38:56,880 --> 02:39:00,360 Where is that in the reporting? Could anyone please just add, 2647 02:39:00,600 --> 02:39:04,920 Trump wants to parade on the Fourth of July? It's it's lying 2648 02:39:04,920 --> 02:39:05,670 by omission? 2649 02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:10,680 No, they're they're in implying that he just wants a parade for 2650 02:39:10,680 --> 02:39:11,460 himself. 2651 02:39:11,580 --> 02:39:14,190 Right. But did they not go check and see what he actually said? 2652 02:39:14,190 --> 02:39:16,860 Are this just being omitted on purpose? 2653 02:39:17,369 --> 02:39:19,769 I don't think he's being omitted on purpose. I just think it's 2654 02:39:19,769 --> 02:39:21,299 just poor reporting. Oh, 2655 02:39:21,869 --> 02:39:24,929 well, Chuck Schumer likes the idea of parades to Here's an old 2656 02:39:24,959 --> 02:39:29,009 you know, the internet is a great Wayback Machine. I love 2657 02:39:29,009 --> 02:39:31,049 Eris. I love to hear Chuck Schumer 2658 02:39:31,050 --> 02:39:36,420 all these men risked their lives to protect us. They experienced 2659 02:39:36,420 --> 02:39:38,940 terrible trauma and tragedy along the way. 2660 02:39:39,090 --> 02:39:41,730 Senator Charles Schumer is appealing to the Department of 2661 02:39:41,730 --> 02:39:45,150 Defense for approval of a grand event of the canyon of heroes. 2662 02:39:45,390 --> 02:39:49,140 That would include military brass color cars, military bands 2663 02:39:49,140 --> 02:39:52,680 and flyovers. It's still in the planning stages, but DoD 2664 02:39:52,680 --> 02:39:55,260 officials say it's certainly not unprecedented. 2665 02:39:55,770 --> 02:39:59,580 We might want to remind chuck of that. And another one from the 2666 02:39:59,580 --> 02:40:04,740 way back machine Trump about the stock market, but what an idiot 2667 02:40:04,740 --> 02:40:09,450 to take to take credit for the stock market what a douchebag 2668 02:40:09,450 --> 02:40:12,240 and never do that. Because when it goes down what are you going 2669 02:40:12,240 --> 02:40:16,140 to say now? Ha Trump? did Obama ever do that? 2670 02:40:17,789 --> 02:40:19,259 I'm sure he did two years 2671 02:40:19,260 --> 02:40:22,830 after the worst recession most of us have ever known. The stock 2672 02:40:22,830 --> 02:40:25,980 market has come roaring back, the stock market recovered. So 2673 02:40:25,980 --> 02:40:31,380 people's 401 k's and retirement accounts got replenished. Now, 2674 02:40:31,380 --> 02:40:34,080 I'm glad that corporate profits are high. And I'm glad that the 2675 02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:37,110 stock market is booming home values are back on the rise. 2676 02:40:37,200 --> 02:40:40,350 Stock markets nearly doubled home values are rising. The 2677 02:40:40,350 --> 02:40:43,470 stock market has rebounded or stock market is rebounding. Hey, 2678 02:40:43,470 --> 02:40:47,070 stock market that has doubled in the stock market has now doubled 2679 02:40:47,100 --> 02:40:49,710 even as the stock market shatters records, the stock 2680 02:40:49,710 --> 02:40:53,460 market has more than doubled since 2009. And since I took 2681 02:40:53,460 --> 02:40:56,610 office, the stock market has more than doubled. Corporate 2682 02:40:56,610 --> 02:40:59,640 profits are up stock markets up but we did it in the stock 2683 02:40:59,670 --> 02:41:02,940 market double stock markets doing great stock markets nearly 2684 02:41:02,940 --> 02:41:07,350 tripled. The stock market was down. When I first took office 2685 02:41:07,350 --> 02:41:12,180 in the first few months I was in office, about 3000 points lower 2686 02:41:12,180 --> 02:41:14,730 than it is now. Thanks, Obama. 2687 02:41:14,970 --> 02:41:17,040 There you go. The Internet Wayback Machine ladies and 2688 02:41:17,040 --> 02:41:17,430 gentlemen. 2689 02:41:20,550 --> 02:41:24,900 Well, I think you kind of nailed the Trump haters there with that 2690 02:41:24,900 --> 02:41:30,960 one. You indicate that the media is like slanted. 2691 02:41:31,589 --> 02:41:34,679 I have I have a question for you. Then actually have a 2692 02:41:34,679 --> 02:41:40,199 question for the producers out there military producers. So 2693 02:41:40,199 --> 02:41:46,049 this new movie, the 1517 to Paris is about this incident 2694 02:41:46,049 --> 02:41:49,799 that took place on the tallies from Amsterdam to Paris, where 2695 02:41:49,799 --> 02:41:53,519 we had two American heroes, three American heroes, actually, 2696 02:41:53,819 --> 02:41:58,439 who all three boyhood friends, all military guys, they're all 2697 02:41:58,469 --> 02:42:01,469 hanging out in Europe before they go back, or they just come 2698 02:42:01,469 --> 02:42:06,239 back for somewhere. And a terrorist grabs a gun and they 2699 02:42:06,719 --> 02:42:08,369 take them out. They don't kill them, actually, but they take 2700 02:42:08,369 --> 02:42:13,259 them out. Now, Clint Eastwood directs this movie, and he 2701 02:42:13,259 --> 02:42:17,099 decides, oh, I've got a great idea. Why don't I Clint Eastwood 2702 02:42:17,099 --> 02:42:23,879 put all of my creative reputation on the on the table 2703 02:42:23,909 --> 02:42:27,179 by having the three original guys play themselves in the 2704 02:42:27,179 --> 02:42:33,779 movie. This, I think is pretty. I mean, they are the the main 2705 02:42:33,779 --> 02:42:38,729 characters. Yes. And so now the terrorist right and so now they 2706 02:42:38,729 --> 02:42:39,149 are 2707 02:42:39,180 --> 02:42:41,460 they didn't have him play his original role that would have 2708 02:42:41,460 --> 02:42:43,560 been better who the terrorists. 2709 02:42:44,910 --> 02:42:49,740 But so for some odd reason, they were on Tucker Carlson. And he 2710 02:42:49,740 --> 02:42:52,980 was interviewing them a fawning over them. Which leads me to 2711 02:42:52,980 --> 02:42:57,360 believe I couldn't find offhand a an entertainment connection to 2712 02:42:57,360 --> 02:43:00,300 the fox properties, but I'm sure it's there somewhere. 2713 02:43:00,930 --> 02:43:03,960 We'll search probably might be searchlight I think as Fox. 2714 02:43:05,340 --> 02:43:09,660 But the way the the way it comes across to me, you see these 2715 02:43:09,660 --> 02:43:12,420 three guys sitting there, the one in the middle is in a suit. 2716 02:43:12,600 --> 02:43:15,990 He's buttoned up. He has a you know, the square shoulders 2717 02:43:15,990 --> 02:43:19,680 military guy. The two guys on the right and the left there it 2718 02:43:19,680 --> 02:43:23,730 really dress casual that just in the way they spoke about certain 2719 02:43:23,730 --> 02:43:30,150 things. Just to lay it out made me question. It somehow if there 2720 02:43:30,150 --> 02:43:33,750 may be not really military, then we don't know much about this 2721 02:43:33,750 --> 02:43:37,200 attack other than what happened on one car of a train. I mean, 2722 02:43:37,200 --> 02:43:40,050 just think about the opportunity. If if I was of the 2723 02:43:40,050 --> 02:43:44,640 conspiratorial nature, you get, you get two actors and you use 2724 02:43:44,640 --> 02:43:49,680 one real guy. And you stage this thing, you film it. And then you 2725 02:43:49,680 --> 02:43:55,080 release it later as a movie. Yeah, so maybe you can't come 2726 02:43:55,080 --> 02:43:59,790 back and do it again. You know, re recreate the scene, but maybe 2727 02:43:59,790 --> 02:44:00,390 it's 2728 02:44:00,450 --> 02:44:03,270 it you think the whole thing is a bunch of bullshit. 2729 02:44:03,450 --> 02:44:06,960 Yes. And my issue with it is I listened to these guys. I've 2730 02:44:06,990 --> 02:44:11,670 known military personnel my entire life. Certainly intensely 2731 02:44:11,670 --> 02:44:16,860 in the past 10 or 1520. Yeah, just listen to him 2732 02:44:16,890 --> 02:44:19,230 earlier this story just got more amazing. Not only did you do 2733 02:44:19,230 --> 02:44:22,560 this, and you know one of the one of the great good deeds 2734 02:44:22,560 --> 02:44:25,320 ever, but she got whole new careers out of it. What was it 2735 02:44:25,320 --> 02:44:27,300 like at any of you acted before? 2736 02:44:27,900 --> 02:44:30,150 Never, never, not even a school play? 2737 02:44:30,690 --> 02:44:34,350 Well then to go from like zero to Hollywood film directed by 2738 02:44:34,350 --> 02:44:37,290 Clint Eastwood's con a lot. How did you do it? 2739 02:44:37,800 --> 02:44:41,220 We honestly just did it. How we did it the first time really? 2740 02:44:41,220 --> 02:44:43,830 That's pretty much the only advice he gave us was just be 2741 02:44:43,830 --> 02:44:45,810 ourselves and do it how we did it. Only Clint 2742 02:44:45,810 --> 02:44:48,960 Eastwood can pull something like this off. So when he asked us he 2743 02:44:48,960 --> 02:44:50,880 gave us the competence to attempt it. So we just had to 2744 02:44:50,880 --> 02:44:51,300 try it. 2745 02:44:51,390 --> 02:44:54,030 Yeah, we just trust him so much. I mean, we knew going into it 2746 02:44:54,030 --> 02:44:57,240 that he was going to do the story justice. And just having 2747 02:44:57,240 --> 02:44:59,820 him like Anthony said have the competence in us with was 2748 02:44:59,820 --> 02:45:01,710 already needed. What is it 2749 02:45:01,710 --> 02:45:02,610 was it hard? 2750 02:45:03,689 --> 02:45:06,659 It was fun. I mean, it was hard at first getting used to it. But 2751 02:45:06,689 --> 02:45:10,439 I think we got a rhythm with it pretty quickly. And we actually 2752 02:45:10,439 --> 02:45:11,069 had finished ahead of 2753 02:45:11,160 --> 02:45:12,690 us the guy in the middle casual, I believe 2754 02:45:12,720 --> 02:45:15,570 he takes the weight of shooting a Big Picture Motion Picture off 2755 02:45:15,570 --> 02:45:18,030 of you. He just keeps it real light. And he's like your what 2756 02:45:18,030 --> 02:45:21,060 your two friends just do what you did, and capture the rest. 2757 02:45:21,060 --> 02:45:23,520 And when Clint Eastwood says you gotta cap, you got to trust him 2758 02:45:23,520 --> 02:45:23,940 on that. 2759 02:45:24,149 --> 02:45:27,179 Yeah. And you said, What was it like filming the pivotal scene, 2760 02:45:27,689 --> 02:45:31,049 in the movie and in your lives on the train? It was 2761 02:45:31,050 --> 02:45:33,660 honestly just a lot of fun. I mean, a lot of people think it'd 2762 02:45:33,660 --> 02:45:36,780 be traumatizing. But luckily, we don't have PTSD. I mean, nobody 2763 02:45:36,780 --> 02:45:38,280 died that day on the train. 2764 02:45:38,339 --> 02:45:41,939 This is the part where it caught my attention. I don't believe 2765 02:45:41,939 --> 02:45:45,899 there's any military person who would speak so cavalierly about 2766 02:45:45,899 --> 02:45:49,499 PTSD. Like, no, it's not like we had PTSD. Nobody died that day. 2767 02:45:50,699 --> 02:45:53,489 If you're in the military, you know, PTSD does not come from 2768 02:45:53,489 --> 02:45:57,389 dying, necessarily comes from a lot of different things. And I 2769 02:45:57,389 --> 02:46:00,359 and I'm just shooting from the hip, John, I could be completely 2770 02:46:00,359 --> 02:46:05,369 wrong. I do know that over 500 movies, 600, television shows 2771 02:46:05,399 --> 02:46:09,629 all have been influenced by the Pentagon with money with script 2772 02:46:09,629 --> 02:46:12,839 rewrites. I mean, there's huge documentation now available 2773 02:46:12,839 --> 02:46:15,989 about that this did not happen in a vacuum without the 2774 02:46:15,989 --> 02:46:16,529 Pentagon, 2775 02:46:16,590 --> 02:46:18,120 Ives on the train. 2776 02:46:18,180 --> 02:46:20,760 It was honestly just a lot of fun. I mean, a lot of people 2777 02:46:20,760 --> 02:46:23,760 think it'd be traumatizing. But luckily, we don't have PTSD. I 2778 02:46:23,760 --> 02:46:27,030 mean, nobody died that day on the train. And I mean, we just 2779 02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:29,880 got to hang out for like, a week on a train with YouTube best 2780 02:46:29,880 --> 02:46:31,590 friends and Clint Eastwood. So 2781 02:46:31,650 --> 02:46:33,960 you get to do it, you get to do it twice. That's pretty cool. 2782 02:46:34,890 --> 02:46:36,780 It's more than just the headline, everybody gets to see 2783 02:46:36,780 --> 02:46:39,750 actually what happened, how messy it was, how crazy it was. 2784 02:46:39,750 --> 02:46:43,470 And hopefully it inspires people to maybe do some situations. 2785 02:46:43,560 --> 02:46:45,090 I feel like, That's it right 2786 02:46:45,090 --> 02:46:47,250 there. And I'm not judging anyone. I haven't been in that 2787 02:46:47,250 --> 02:46:49,680 kind of situation. But you see, a lot of these things unfolded. 2788 02:46:49,680 --> 02:46:51,480 Nobody does that. Why do you think that is? 2789 02:46:52,020 --> 02:46:54,990 People are scared, we were scared as well to I think the 2790 02:46:54,990 --> 02:46:57,480 unique thing about our situation is we were just on a train and 2791 02:46:57,480 --> 02:47:01,350 we had nowhere to go. So I know that all these situations are 2792 02:47:01,350 --> 02:47:04,470 different, you know, all these different attacks and stuff like 2793 02:47:04,470 --> 02:47:07,140 that. But hopefully this change the narrative a little bit and 2794 02:47:07,140 --> 02:47:09,690 inspires people out there that you know, the common man can do 2795 02:47:09,690 --> 02:47:11,670 something, if they find themselves in the same 2796 02:47:11,670 --> 02:47:12,300 situation. 2797 02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:16,440 You have their brave head, which you guys are and that's always 2798 02:47:16,440 --> 02:47:19,680 the that's always the key. It's had any of you thought, a 2799 02:47:19,680 --> 02:47:21,600 scenario like that through before you got on the train? If 2800 02:47:21,600 --> 02:47:23,250 I'm ever in this situation? Here's what I'm gonna do. 2801 02:47:23,520 --> 02:47:25,860 Actually, yeah, we have we had talked about it. I mean, 2802 02:47:25,860 --> 02:47:28,140 numerous times beforehand. I mean, we kind of played war 2803 02:47:28,140 --> 02:47:30,780 growing up together. So we'd always ask each other, like, if 2804 02:47:30,780 --> 02:47:32,730 a guy comes in this room, what are you gonna do? And their 2805 02:47:32,730 --> 02:47:33,660 answers were always the same. 2806 02:47:33,690 --> 02:47:37,770 I think that was the biggest contributing factor. So far, and 2807 02:47:37,770 --> 02:47:40,050 we all knew we'd be on the same page or something like that 2808 02:47:40,050 --> 02:47:40,740 happened. Sure. 2809 02:47:40,890 --> 02:47:44,670 But you actually did it. People just talking about it. You did 2810 02:47:44,670 --> 02:47:44,790 it. 2811 02:47:44,820 --> 02:47:46,350 We were just surprised. 2812 02:47:46,380 --> 02:47:50,730 Yeah. Given the opportunity, and, and that's really 2813 02:47:51,240 --> 02:47:54,300 good. Well, I'm glad Hollywood came to memorialize this far. 2814 02:47:54,750 --> 02:47:55,980 Thank you for joining us today. 2815 02:47:56,850 --> 02:48:01,380 Man. Thanks. I don't know. I smell something here. 2816 02:48:01,920 --> 02:48:05,310 Well, I'm not going to say you're full of crap or your 2817 02:48:05,310 --> 02:48:07,380 life. This is dogs a deep band because there's nothing no 2818 02:48:07,380 --> 02:48:10,890 evidence one way or the other. And I It does sound a little 2819 02:48:10,920 --> 02:48:16,110 some of the comments are a little bit much. Yeah. But yeah, 2820 02:48:16,110 --> 02:48:18,600 we thought about this before it happened. And I don't know how 2821 02:48:18,600 --> 02:48:21,120 can you guys talk about that? When it took place? I 2822 02:48:21,120 --> 02:48:23,220 think we talked about it. We thought we thought it was there 2823 02:48:23,220 --> 02:48:26,100 was something about I tried to hunt around I couldn't remember 2824 02:48:26,100 --> 02:48:26,400 what 2825 02:48:26,520 --> 02:48:29,640 the it's just a promotion for something. 2826 02:48:29,670 --> 02:48:33,120 Well, it's well, the military of course, being brave. Join the 2827 02:48:33,150 --> 02:48:35,730 join the military. I mean, it's it's Penza. They 2828 02:48:35,730 --> 02:48:38,160 have to do their marketing. It's more you know, it's more 2829 02:48:38,160 --> 02:48:41,250 marketing. Eastwood needs to keep his movie thing going 2830 02:48:41,250 --> 02:48:43,740 because he's gonna drop dead if he doesn't keep doing movies. 2831 02:48:44,520 --> 02:48:48,090 Last time I saw him that he's at the at the local golf 2832 02:48:48,120 --> 02:48:52,470 tournament. in Monterey, guys, skinnies again must weigh 80 2833 02:48:52,470 --> 02:48:53,130 pounds. He's 2834 02:48:53,130 --> 02:48:54,360 nice. eat a cheeseburger. 2835 02:48:55,380 --> 02:49:01,110 Eat some. Listen to this woman, Rachel hertz and you know, yeah, 2836 02:49:01,530 --> 02:49:05,760 brief is Snellman Ella sniff some glue man. Some vanilla 2837 02:49:05,760 --> 02:49:11,160 vanilla supposed to make eat 25% more. So, all right. I know. 2838 02:49:11,280 --> 02:49:15,180 It's an interesting theory. Definitely no agenda. Yeah, that 2839 02:49:15,180 --> 02:49:17,670 was my second half a show. That's that's all I really got 2840 02:49:17,670 --> 02:49:21,090 for you on that. Oh, except, I do want to mention that in the 2841 02:49:21,090 --> 02:49:25,620 UK now big scandal, as they've uncovered who uncovered this the 2842 02:49:25,620 --> 02:49:32,820 Daily Mail uncovered that George Soros is backing a 400,000 or 2843 02:49:32,820 --> 02:49:38,040 actually backed a 400,000 pound campaign against Brexit to stay 2844 02:49:38,040 --> 02:49:41,910 in the EU? Yes, yes. is big news. Yes. Because that's called 2845 02:49:41,910 --> 02:49:47,790 meddling in someone else's affairs. He's not British. No, 2846 02:49:48,090 --> 02:49:52,170 he's not. Now it's is it any worse than the than the Russians 2847 02:49:52,170 --> 02:49:53,580 buying Facebook ads? 2848 02:49:55,140 --> 02:49:57,330 No, they hacked the election man. Yeah, man. 2849 02:49:57,330 --> 02:50:00,120 They hacked Brexit baby. Definitely. To 2850 02:50:01,470 --> 02:50:04,170 play this clip Facebook sued in the EU 2851 02:50:05,790 --> 02:50:07,200 getting sued in the EU. 2852 02:50:08,490 --> 02:50:12,540 Well, Facebook is set to come under scrutiny and Austrian law 2853 02:50:12,570 --> 02:50:16,920 graduate is spearheading a class action case against Facebook for 2854 02:50:16,920 --> 02:50:20,760 allegedly breaching privacy. It's officially filed the suit 2855 02:50:20,760 --> 02:50:21,690 in the Vienna courtroom 2856 02:50:21,780 --> 02:50:26,490 and a closely watched case 25,000 Facebook users are suing 2857 02:50:26,490 --> 02:50:30,390 the social media giant for rights violations ranging from 2858 02:50:30,390 --> 02:50:33,720 the illegal tracking of their data under the EU law to its 2859 02:50:33,720 --> 02:50:36,570 involvement in the NSA surveillance program that 2860 02:50:36,570 --> 02:50:39,180 targeted millions of innocent citizens. 2861 02:50:39,960 --> 02:50:43,770 None of us are 27 year old student Max trims has a bone to 2862 02:50:43,770 --> 02:50:47,520 pick with Facebook over alleged privacy violations. His class 2863 02:50:47,520 --> 02:50:51,300 action lawsuit is seeking 500 euros in damages for each of the 2864 02:50:51,300 --> 02:50:55,200 25,000 Facebook users whose data may have been shared with 2865 02:50:55,200 --> 02:50:58,080 government agencies or commercial interests. 2866 02:50:59,250 --> 02:51:01,650 Europe are not enforcing our fundamental rights right now. 2867 02:51:01,710 --> 02:51:05,130 There are almost no penalties there is hardly any lawsuits 2868 02:51:05,130 --> 02:51:08,700 ever. And that is the basic idea to say, you know, guys, this is 2869 02:51:08,760 --> 02:51:11,220 a fundamental right in Europe. So constitutional like right, 2870 02:51:11,700 --> 02:51:13,680 you have to stick to it, you can just you know, ignore it. 2871 02:51:14,190 --> 02:51:16,890 Facebook is trying to get the litigation tossed out on 2872 02:51:16,890 --> 02:51:20,520 procedural grounds. The company insists the court in Vienna does 2873 02:51:20,520 --> 02:51:24,090 not even have jurisdiction. And it questions whether SRAMs has 2874 02:51:24,090 --> 02:51:27,900 the right to bring the suit on behalf of 1000s of others. The 2875 02:51:27,900 --> 02:51:30,570 judge will rule within a few months and whether the lawsuit 2876 02:51:30,570 --> 02:51:33,990 is admissible. Experts say it may become a test case for 2877 02:51:33,990 --> 02:51:36,000 European data protection laws. 2878 02:51:37,470 --> 02:51:41,160 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that clip was from five years ago. 2879 02:51:41,190 --> 02:51:41,550 Yeah, 2880 02:51:41,550 --> 02:51:45,900 I was waiting for it. Good one. So they still haven't still 2881 02:51:45,900 --> 02:51:47,970 haven't sued him what's going on very data. 2882 02:51:47,970 --> 02:51:51,360 No, this hasn't been brought up in the conversation sense. 2883 02:51:53,460 --> 02:51:56,310 It's a very odd it's a very odd world we live in John. 2884 02:51:57,450 --> 02:51:59,490 We keep we keep everyone honest. 2885 02:51:59,820 --> 02:52:05,760 We try. That's for sure. Dan, we will try to do that again on 2886 02:52:07,380 --> 02:52:11,160 Thursday, episode one double O eight of the best podcast in the 2887 02:52:11,160 --> 02:52:14,220 universe. Please remember us at divorce. act.org/na. It's your 2888 02:52:14,220 --> 02:52:15,840 show. You make it happen. 2889 02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:22,980 And don't forget if you got a new one, I put it to put the 2890 02:52:22,980 --> 02:52:30,120 date $214.18 with a Valentine's Day, call out to some loved one 2891 02:52:30,150 --> 02:52:33,660 in we'll go in the newsletter on Wednesday, which is produced on 2892 02:52:33,660 --> 02:52:35,040 Valentine's Day. Oh, 2893 02:52:35,220 --> 02:52:38,700 ah, okay. So Oh, that's nice. It will come out on Valentine's 2894 02:52:38,700 --> 02:52:42,450 Day. It's a perfect, perfect. Yeah. That's a good idea. 2895 02:52:42,930 --> 02:52:46,080 So you still have a little three days, two days. 2896 02:52:46,110 --> 02:52:48,510 All right, everybody getting on that operators are standing by? 2897 02:52:49,560 --> 02:52:53,970 Yes, they're standing by the rock.org/na Hey, until then 2898 02:52:53,970 --> 02:52:56,400 coming to you from downtown Austin Tejas capital the drone 2899 02:52:56,400 --> 02:52:59,430 Star state here in the five benign common law condo in the 2900 02:52:59,430 --> 02:53:02,370 clue do in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry. 2901 02:53:02,730 --> 02:53:05,970 And from Northern Silicon Valley when the trains go by am John C. 2902 02:53:05,970 --> 02:53:06,870 Dvorak. We return 2903 02:53:06,870 --> 02:53:11,670 on Thursday right here on no agenda until then. Adios mofos 2904 02:53:20,670 --> 02:53:26,400 don't need to know agenda they give us as we get there we 2905 02:53:26,460 --> 02:53:33,960 donate to and no agenda is really unique. Donate to no 2906 02:53:33,960 --> 02:53:41,670 agenda. This John Adams be the only two with no agenda. Science 2907 02:53:41,670 --> 02:53:43,650 is turning into a clean 2908 02:53:43,740 --> 02:53:47,880 Texas State student is considering legal action after 2909 02:53:47,880 --> 02:53:53,310 she claims. Spirit Airlines told her to flush her support Amster 2910 02:53:53,310 --> 02:53:55,830 down the toilet and she did it. 2911 02:53:56,850 --> 02:54:05,550 Ma Berg's I'm ready to go. I'm stepping inside the store to 2912 02:54:05,550 --> 02:54:08,160 break your friends 2913 02:54:18,270 --> 02:54:32,790 motion support they will let you board you got it. So I hope that 2914 02:54:32,790 --> 02:55:00,480 you flourish please don't try to hold on to the Skowron 2915 02:55:06,120 --> 02:55:15,990 excuse me, you don't know Jesus Christ almighty is that a rat? 2916 02:55:16,890 --> 02:55:32,700 Could be a hamster. MoPhO vortrag.org/in no agenda shall 2917 02:55:32,730 --> 02:55:34,320 look at kick to the crotch