1 00:00:10,830 --> 00:00:15,360 Moe facts with Adam Curry for September 14 2021 welcome to 2 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:21,540 episode number 66. We're on our schedule two weeks on off and 3 00:00:21,540 --> 00:00:24,540 happy to be here once again I'm Adam Curry here in the heart of 4 00:00:24,540 --> 00:00:28,590 Texas Hill Country and somewhere in Northern Virginia my friend 5 00:00:28,590 --> 00:00:35,250 on the other end ladies and gentlemen Mr. Mo facts Wow, that 6 00:00:35,250 --> 00:00:40,200 was perfect. Whole intro like you were a wrestler coming up, 7 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,650 you know? Good mo you man. How's everything going there? 8 00:00:44,190 --> 00:00:47,730 I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Like I said, we're on 9 00:00:47,730 --> 00:00:48,330 schedule. 10 00:00:49,110 --> 00:00:52,260 I love it. This is really good. Before you know be professional 11 00:00:52,260 --> 00:00:53,190 podcasters 12 00:00:53,370 --> 00:00:57,780 and to do a little promo for the people that don't know I've 13 00:00:57,780 --> 00:01:00,540 started doing something something on the YouTube Yeah, 14 00:01:00,540 --> 00:01:06,030 the lives Yeah, the lost tapes. So we did a whole nother show on 15 00:01:06,030 --> 00:01:10,800 Bill Cosby because so much material. You can't leave it 16 00:01:10,980 --> 00:01:13,650 untouched. So I love that over there. Check it out. 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,770 Now you doing that after each episode or doing something 18 00:01:16,770 --> 00:01:20,850 before each mo fax episode drops or after it I love that. 19 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,350 So what happens is what I call it is the interactive 20 00:01:25,350 --> 00:01:29,880 newsletter. So what what we talked about today, next 21 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,050 Wednesday on the YouTube mo facts right, we'll cover some of 22 00:01:34,050 --> 00:01:37,410 the topics that we covered today. Oh in more detail, and 23 00:01:37,410 --> 00:01:39,750 you know how the video aspect and then we have the live 24 00:01:39,750 --> 00:01:43,890 feedback from the producer. So it's nice another experience and 25 00:01:43,890 --> 00:01:47,400 it gives them something every week to look forward to and it 26 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:47,640 keeps 27 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,950 you off the streets more let's be honest about it. It's good 28 00:01:49,950 --> 00:01:50,190 for 29 00:01:51,990 --> 00:01:54,330 what do you say we spin the wheel? Please sir 30 00:01:54,420 --> 00:01:58,530 All right, here we go. There it is. Big Ass wheels topics round 31 00:01:58,530 --> 00:02:00,930 around. It goes where stop nobody knows except of course mo 32 00:02:00,930 --> 00:02:04,140 because puts it all together and figures it out. What is the 33 00:02:04,140 --> 00:02:06,930 topic for Episode 66 of mo facts with Adam Curry. 34 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:26,160 Loves pot love. Like Star Trek. Remember that the Star Trek 35 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,940 theme song when it was black and white? Oh yeah, it was like 36 00:02:34,980 --> 00:02:37,860 alright, potluck. Good. So we would do we got a couple of 37 00:02:37,860 --> 00:02:38,730 topics for today. 38 00:02:39,150 --> 00:02:42,840 We got a handful of topics we're gonna cover to be exact for 39 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,790 blocks. Okay, have some current events that's been going on that 40 00:02:47,790 --> 00:02:50,880 I've been keeping an eye on so we're happy to talk about them. 41 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,600 And these are the topics that don't really need a full show or 42 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,110 sometimes they can spin off until for show depending on how 43 00:02:58,110 --> 00:03:02,070 far we go into it. But and there's a theme to this one. 44 00:03:02,370 --> 00:03:03,870 okay to say um 45 00:03:05,490 --> 00:03:08,610 there is nothing versus a theme to it. 46 00:03:09,090 --> 00:03:13,620 There's a sub theme to the theme Mr. Jones, we have to talk about 47 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:18,840 it. We had to put some respect on the man's name with the horse 48 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,070 pace debacle we saw the news media oh 49 00:03:25,860 --> 00:03:29,430 do I hit do i do i do the next topic thing here is that just go 50 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:34,260 ahead and let's get into it. Oh, LeBron James has a mandate of 51 00:03:34,260 --> 00:03:40,920 heaven now. Okay, so somehow this fits into Alex Jones 52 00:03:41,759 --> 00:03:44,729 Well, he's gonna be a running theme through the show because 53 00:03:44,759 --> 00:03:49,079 oh when I'm done here is topics that he's thrown out like he's 54 00:03:49,079 --> 00:03:54,569 like Kanye right? Um what like the fish sticks you're gay if 55 00:03:54,569 --> 00:03:59,519 your fist sticks and well yeah, they talking means or what me 56 00:03:59,519 --> 00:04:02,729 and my man young girl Call me when nice right? Is they talking 57 00:04:02,729 --> 00:04:09,719 me he's talking to these like catchphrases. So when you hear 58 00:04:09,719 --> 00:04:14,879 this stuff is like, easily dismissed. But in the show, I 59 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:19,859 have a handful of statements he's made Yeah, that I want to 60 00:04:19,889 --> 00:04:25,049 deep dive into and one the first one being LeBron James has a 61 00:04:25,049 --> 00:04:29,999 mandate from heaven. So it's gonna be a fun show. Little you 62 00:04:29,999 --> 00:04:33,419 know, we get little conspiratorial on. Yeah, you 63 00:04:33,420 --> 00:04:36,450 don't say no, no, no, never anything like that. 64 00:04:38,460 --> 00:04:39,960 I guess we mean, if you're ready 65 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,570 to. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready for all of it. It's my 66 00:04:42,570 --> 00:04:46,020 favorite people. LeBron James Alex Jones. We're good to go as 67 00:04:46,290 --> 00:04:47,040 all 68 00:04:48,510 --> 00:04:50,100 of you if you weren't just to warn people. 69 00:04:51,030 --> 00:04:55,380 Good. Good cuz I got stuff to talk about whenever. Hopefully 70 00:04:55,380 --> 00:04:56,400 it's about Donda. 71 00:04:57,570 --> 00:05:01,680 Well, we're not gonna go actual Kanye, but I had It is so okay 72 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,160 just to bring ourselves back from the edge of going for Alex 73 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,880 Jones. So 74 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,640 okay, hold on a second. This will make us feel much better. 75 00:05:08,700 --> 00:05:11,940 Come on Mary finagle Alex Jones. Come on. 76 00:05:13,380 --> 00:05:17,250 Come on. So this is CBS, Los Angeles. 77 00:05:17,460 --> 00:05:20,580 Well, Brian James says the decision on whether or not he 78 00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:24,930 gets the COVID-19 vaccine will probably be kept private, adding 79 00:05:24,930 --> 00:05:28,140 it's a conversation between you and your family and not for 80 00:05:28,140 --> 00:05:32,130 everybody else. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver indicated the league 81 00:05:32,130 --> 00:05:35,490 would not require players to get the vaccine, nor would it 82 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:39,750 require fans to be vaccinated in order to attend games. Katie 83 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:41,460 Johnston for CBS la? 84 00:05:41,550 --> 00:05:44,010 Yeah, this is a big topic I've been hearing about this. 85 00:05:44,820 --> 00:05:50,310 He's been trying to hide in the weeds of saying it's a personal 86 00:05:50,310 --> 00:05:56,280 decision, whether it's not a big deal if I say it or not. And the 87 00:05:56,280 --> 00:06:00,180 NBA is kind of box them in, because they're going to the 88 00:06:00,210 --> 00:06:05,040 local mandates of if you're not vaccinated, you don't play. So 89 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,650 we're going to look at that whole thing. And if there's a 90 00:06:07,650 --> 00:06:12,480 sub topic in the sub topic that I want to follow as well, it all 91 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,530 connects as it always does. Um, so have you been like you said, 92 00:06:16,530 --> 00:06:17,640 You've heard this so? 93 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,360 Well, I mean, that's exactly. You know, I've been studying NBA 94 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,390 from a different angle, the owners and Epstein, which I hope 95 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:27,750 to Wow, you with one of these days. It's like, it's like crazy 96 00:06:27,750 --> 00:06:30,960 when you look into the depths of that and how coincidental it all 97 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,710 is an Apollo management. So this other stuff is, you know, I've 98 00:06:34,710 --> 00:06:39,690 been, I'm a little COVID tired. Okay, and I'm a little brand 99 00:06:39,690 --> 00:06:43,950 tired as well, I have to admit. So. Yeah, I mean, obviously, I 100 00:06:43,950 --> 00:06:47,370 kind of know what's going on. So I'm, I can't wait to hear at 101 00:06:47,370 --> 00:06:47,670 all. 102 00:06:48,090 --> 00:06:52,260 So what I want to do is show you how, when it's time to speak, 103 00:06:52,830 --> 00:06:56,160 the pressure will be applied, and you can't just duck down in 104 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,490 the weeds and, and not say I don't want to make a comment, 105 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,800 you know, that doesn't work. They did it with that with him 106 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,580 and on China. Yeah, we're gonna try. No, that did not work at 107 00:07:05,580 --> 00:07:09,990 all. It did not work. But I will say this, I think LeBron James 108 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:16,890 knows he has the timing, to understand that if he says, he's 109 00:07:16,890 --> 00:07:22,980 gonna take it, he's gonna take a big hit to his following. So 110 00:07:22,980 --> 00:07:27,240 he's trying to play the middle, because he was vaccinated, or 111 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,630 was that vaccine friendly? He would just come out, say it 112 00:07:30,630 --> 00:07:33,450 right, even though I'm taking it, you know, right. run on my 113 00:07:33,450 --> 00:07:34,980 sleeve. I don't care what's in it. Now. I 114 00:07:34,980 --> 00:07:37,710 mean, obviously, if you're gonna act like that, we know what's 115 00:07:37,710 --> 00:07:38,010 up. 116 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:44,250 Right. So I want to go into the pressure tactics that they use. 117 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,850 And one of the pressure points they're using is Stephen A 118 00:07:47,850 --> 00:07:49,770 Smith. From first take, 119 00:07:49,950 --> 00:07:53,760 I don't blame the players have been hesitant to promote vaccine 120 00:07:53,790 --> 00:07:56,160 vaccines, considering our nation's history and our 121 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,410 mistrust of the federal government. We know that 122 00:07:58,410 --> 00:08:01,080 history, we don't have time to get into it. But I think 123 00:08:01,260 --> 00:08:04,500 considering the number of people who have been vaccinated, which 124 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:07,290 are obviously in the millions, and the fact that it's 125 00:08:07,290 --> 00:08:10,440 indiscriminate, there are black and whites, and others that have 126 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,890 taken a vaccine, I do think it's time for all of us to adopt a 127 00:08:13,890 --> 00:08:17,040 mentality that if we have the opportunity to do it is 128 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,430 something that we should do. And if they come my way with it, I 129 00:08:20,430 --> 00:08:21,510 will take the vaccine. 130 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,440 Let me address what you just said quickly. Sure. I think as 131 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,010 Americans, we are used to a situation where money and power 132 00:08:29,010 --> 00:08:31,620 gives you greater access to things and people feel that 133 00:08:31,620 --> 00:08:34,230 that's normal. I think if I were running a league, and I could 134 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:37,620 get my hands on vaccines and I could legally distributed I 135 00:08:37,620 --> 00:08:40,980 would to the players. If you're asking me as an independent 136 00:08:40,980 --> 00:08:44,550 arbiter, do I think that that's ethical, or moral? The answer's 137 00:08:44,550 --> 00:08:47,880 No, I don't. So I disagree with you on principle, but in 138 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,690 practice, we probably see I think there is a case to be made 139 00:08:52,020 --> 00:08:55,290 on economic lines along the ones you're making. I think the best 140 00:08:55,290 --> 00:08:58,020 way to do it is what the most effective way we seen 141 00:08:58,020 --> 00:09:00,450 internationally is you start with the oldest people because 142 00:09:00,450 --> 00:09:02,520 there's even more with underlying conditions. The 143 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,600 oldest Do you know, 85 and over 75, and over 65, and over do it 144 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,060 like that and people with underlying conditions and first 145 00:09:09,060 --> 00:09:11,100 responders and then the rest of us wait for it. 146 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:19,170 So this was early on? Yeah. And I know in the vaccine rollout, 147 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,070 even Steven a Smith was hesitant as you heard him saying Yeah, 148 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:29,130 but obviously somebody taught me Steven Naismith. And he wait a 149 00:09:29,130 --> 00:09:33,390 minute. Was it a phone? Is that what happened? Did you get a 150 00:09:33,390 --> 00:09:34,320 phone call? 151 00:09:34,350 --> 00:09:39,480 I don't know which way the phone call might have been dialing in 152 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,560 the headquarters like hey, 153 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,159 I don't know. Yeah. 154 00:09:44,549 --> 00:09:50,279 So as you get here in this one, Max Kellerman, kind of top 155 00:09:50,279 --> 00:09:55,019 Steven Naismith on and it starts to irk Steven Naismith, so we're 156 00:09:55,019 --> 00:09:59,639 gonna get into that as well. So anything you want to address 157 00:09:59,999 --> 00:10:00,689 mean no no 158 00:10:00,690 --> 00:10:03,060 Keep it rolling. Mo I'm loving this. I mean these are names I 159 00:10:03,060 --> 00:10:05,280 don't even know you know, I got to look them up while you're 160 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,590 talking. I am not Mr. Basketball. 161 00:10:07,980 --> 00:10:12,300 No, it's not about basketball we've we spotted early on in the 162 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:16,380 NBA was the League of choice sure for the vaccine rollout 163 00:10:16,410 --> 00:10:20,160 being Rudy go bear was the first one to catch the major athlete 164 00:10:20,190 --> 00:10:21,210 who does he play for? 165 00:10:21,539 --> 00:10:25,769 He plays for the Utah Jazz Okay, um and you know that's when they 166 00:10:25,769 --> 00:10:29,699 shut down the league they had the horrible the NFL again they 167 00:10:29,699 --> 00:10:33,719 have the vaccine mandate um, what they leave it up to the 168 00:10:33,719 --> 00:10:37,709 players not to take it if they want to now with heavy fines 169 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:41,100 gets a little more serious. Yeah, I guess they're more 170 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:41,850 serious. 171 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,750 Right. But the NBA has been all in since the beginning like I 172 00:10:45,750 --> 00:10:49,890 said with the bubble down and Disney and all of that stuff and 173 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,560 Black Lives Matter on the court and all those things so they've 174 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:55,410 been very vaccine friendly. 175 00:10:55,890 --> 00:10:58,860 So of course in China's still trying to kill us and that's 176 00:10:58,860 --> 00:11:02,190 their their weapon of choice is the NBA. Where there you have 177 00:11:02,190 --> 00:11:05,730 it, just just say, and not conspiratorial anything just 178 00:11:05,730 --> 00:11:06,540 laying it out there. 179 00:11:07,079 --> 00:11:10,799 If they give a fake looks to beat Well, I will say with walks 180 00:11:10,799 --> 00:11:16,289 like a duck and quacks like a duck. So we have next Charles 181 00:11:16,289 --> 00:11:20,549 Barkley, and he's going to speak on vaccine priority. 182 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:23,519 I think they should let the NBA players and coaches all get the 183 00:11:23,519 --> 00:11:27,839 vaccine. That's just my personal opinion. I don't I don't know. 184 00:11:27,839 --> 00:11:32,429 That's what people were talking about the front of the line, we 185 00:11:32,429 --> 00:11:38,369 need 300 million shots up giving 1000 to some NBA players. What 186 00:11:38,369 --> 00:11:43,259 about what about NFL NFL? The NFL players hockey players? 187 00:11:43,829 --> 00:11:49,409 Listen as much taxes these players pay. Let me repeat that. 188 00:11:49,649 --> 00:11:53,789 It's much taxes these players pay they deserve some 189 00:11:53,789 --> 00:11:58,949 preferential treatment for for life and death. Yes, the amount 190 00:11:58,949 --> 00:12:03,719 of money you make no taxes, amount of money you make what 191 00:12:05,699 --> 00:12:09,539 amount of taxes these guys pay it they we can't go there. You 192 00:12:09,539 --> 00:12:14,459 got to take care of the elderly in the in the at risk. I totally 193 00:12:14,459 --> 00:12:16,919 agree. We need to take care of the first responders and the old 194 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:21,809 people. But I'm saying given a couple of 1000 shots to the NBA 195 00:12:21,809 --> 00:12:25,589 players is not gonna change the world. I'm just saying it just 196 00:12:25,589 --> 00:12:27,659 making saving favors not changing the world while you're 197 00:12:27,659 --> 00:12:30,299 going to them first because we listen, I'm just saying we Why 198 00:12:30,299 --> 00:12:33,509 do they get the preferential? Why do we all I'm saying why 199 00:12:33,509 --> 00:12:38,819 don't we get the preference of if we're gonna try to play 200 00:12:38,819 --> 00:12:42,809 basketball, right? We're gonna keep having COVID outbreak Okay. 201 00:12:44,729 --> 00:12:48,989 That that discussion could go on? And you know, there's no 202 00:12:48,989 --> 00:12:50,249 right or wrong answer here. 203 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,810 Isn't Barkley old enough to qualify for elderly first? 204 00:12:55,950 --> 00:12:57,330 He's right on the cusp. 205 00:12:57,330 --> 00:12:58,740 Gotta be close. He's gotta be 206 00:13:00,929 --> 00:13:03,419 No, wait, weight issues and things like that. They might 207 00:13:03,479 --> 00:13:07,259 bump them up even more because, you know, comorbidities and 208 00:13:07,259 --> 00:13:11,939 whatnot. But this is Charles not being read in. And they're 209 00:13:11,939 --> 00:13:14,399 trying to walk him back. Did you? Did you notice? 210 00:13:14,429 --> 00:13:18,719 Oh, totally, totally. Like, look at my eyes. Charles looking my 211 00:13:18,719 --> 00:13:20,699 eyes. Listen to what I'm saying. 212 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,850 He's saying the millionaires and elite should get the shot before 213 00:13:26,850 --> 00:13:30,810 everybody else, which I totally agree with. I agree with. 214 00:13:31,740 --> 00:13:34,290 They should totally do it in public. And they should wait for 215 00:13:34,290 --> 00:13:37,320 like 30 minutes so we can make sure that they're okay. That's a 216 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:38,640 very good idea. Yes. 217 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,179 monitor for 30 days. Yeah, of course. Now you can fire up the 218 00:13:45,179 --> 00:13:45,689 phone. 219 00:13:46,769 --> 00:13:49,229 Here is Charles. 220 00:13:49,769 --> 00:13:50,549 Number four. 221 00:13:51,570 --> 00:13:55,140 I know that. That that you you speak your mind that, as I said 222 00:13:55,140 --> 00:13:58,050 that you're so honest about sharing your opinions? Have you 223 00:13:58,050 --> 00:14:00,750 ever said anything that you wish that you would have said 224 00:14:00,780 --> 00:14:02,460 differently or not said at all? 225 00:14:03,899 --> 00:14:08,459 Yeah, I'm so glad you asked my question. I said some last week. 226 00:14:10,589 --> 00:14:14,039 Believe it or not, it was a stupid thing to say that I think 227 00:14:14,039 --> 00:14:17,969 these NBA players I think they should get I said and I said it, 228 00:14:18,389 --> 00:14:20,279 even though I believe it. I think they should get the 229 00:14:20,279 --> 00:14:24,209 vaccine because we have no idea how plants force is going to 230 00:14:24,209 --> 00:14:28,589 have effect on you down the line. If you get this virus, and 231 00:14:28,769 --> 00:14:31,229 you're gonna try to play basketball, I think they should 232 00:14:31,229 --> 00:14:34,769 get the shot. But I made it seem like they were more important 233 00:14:34,979 --> 00:14:39,479 than other people and they're not. And it came out stupid. And 234 00:14:39,479 --> 00:14:43,649 I apologize if everybody was offended. But like I say, I want 235 00:14:43,649 --> 00:14:49,529 my players to be safe when they can get that vaccine. I hope 236 00:14:49,529 --> 00:14:52,739 they get it because, you know, we have no idea how this thing 237 00:14:52,739 --> 00:14:58,799 gonna affect people in 10 2030 years, but I came up with the 238 00:14:58,799 --> 00:15:02,369 person and Apologize I've been about a took it like that. 239 00:15:03,059 --> 00:15:07,349 Well, I'm glad you got to apologize. And we're gonna we're 240 00:15:07,349 --> 00:15:09,209 gonna take a break. We're gonna play a game with Charles. When 241 00:15:09,209 --> 00:15:10,259 we come back, we'll be back. 242 00:15:10,379 --> 00:15:12,209 Wow, holy 243 00:15:12,209 --> 00:15:17,249 crap. Shut up. Shut up. I'm sorry. I'm so David. First of 244 00:15:17,249 --> 00:15:20,159 all, he said, we have no idea what's going to play out in 30 245 00:15:20,159 --> 00:15:23,849 years from now. That was interesting. He he's stepping 246 00:15:23,850 --> 00:15:27,900 out every step and all like a whole yard for the rakes. Every 247 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:34,200 time he says he's like, another rate makes it worse. But you see 248 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:39,720 how it works? Anything you ever wanted to apologize about? Or 249 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:44,280 you felt was stupid, you know? And this was it. That I mean 250 00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:47,730 that's why he was brought on the show for to get it out to the 251 00:15:47,730 --> 00:15:51,600 masses that hey, I said something stupid. I said what we 252 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,470 really think 253 00:15:52,679 --> 00:15:55,199 was there a lot of backlash? Was there a lot of backlash about 254 00:15:55,199 --> 00:15:57,179 the first the first statement he made? 255 00:15:57,659 --> 00:16:01,439 Of course that's why he's on The Ellen Show. I mean, he was the 256 00:16:01,439 --> 00:16:05,249 guy on Brock. I mean, daytime television while we're still on 257 00:16:05,249 --> 00:16:05,729 the course. 258 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,720 And here's I don't understand why didn't just answer 259 00:16:09,750 --> 00:16:12,840 truthfully because it would work to what we just want to be good 260 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,570 examples to everybody if he had said that it would have been 261 00:16:15,570 --> 00:16:16,200 okay. 262 00:16:17,309 --> 00:16:23,309 But what he said no, I know what he said. He says these these 263 00:16:23,309 --> 00:16:23,639 guys. 264 00:16:25,260 --> 00:16:27,570 They said pay a lot of taxes. They deserve it first, 265 00:16:27,870 --> 00:16:36,540 right? Screw it dying old person by 1000 dead people. What is it 266 00:16:36,540 --> 00:16:42,630 really nothing that says nothing to the NBA. The NBA is like Hey, 267 00:16:42,630 --> 00:16:47,640 no, no, no, no, no, no you can't say that. We don't know what 268 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,680 this vaccine gonna do that people in 2013 can't 269 00:16:49,679 --> 00:16:52,739 believe he said that he screwed it up on the on the on the make 270 00:16:52,739 --> 00:16:53,729 good. So 271 00:16:55,710 --> 00:16:58,920 let's Chuck for you now. But what's fascinating is Charles 272 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,010 Barkley was all the morning. I'm gonna apologize for anything. 273 00:17:02,340 --> 00:17:08,190 I'm right. I speak my mind. Yes. Not when that phone rings and 274 00:17:08,190 --> 00:17:10,980 that's why I had to bring the phone and now you're now we're 275 00:17:10,980 --> 00:17:16,170 starting to see when you step out of line, you get the phone 276 00:17:16,170 --> 00:17:18,270 and that's what's happening with LeBron right now. 277 00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:23,070 He's the phone ain't rang yet. Or you know, or you know, or 278 00:17:23,070 --> 00:17:26,460 they send them like a bootleg text. It's like I said to send 279 00:17:26,460 --> 00:17:30,390 you a text and one emoji that's how it starts isn't one emoji on 280 00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:32,190 text. Oh, Okay, I got it. 281 00:17:33,060 --> 00:17:36,510 So now we go back to first take and this is I got to set this up 282 00:17:36,510 --> 00:17:41,310 a little bit. So Max Kellerman, aka Black's Kellerman has always 283 00:17:41,310 --> 00:17:46,320 been known for one upping Steven Naismith and the black category 284 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,750 as we explored on episode 16. 285 00:17:48,780 --> 00:17:51,510 I was gonna say a long time ago that we talked about that, 286 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:56,250 right, but it's just came to a head and clip number six, we're 287 00:17:56,250 --> 00:17:59,460 going to hear example of him one upping Steven Naismith 288 00:17:59,910 --> 00:18:04,770 athletes should not be forced into positions where they must 289 00:18:04,770 --> 00:18:08,940 publicly espouse that they are Affirmative. Lee, you know, 290 00:18:08,940 --> 00:18:11,340 they're they're, they're, they're putting their weight on. 291 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:13,620 Yes, everyone should do this. Because if they don't feel that 292 00:18:13,620 --> 00:18:16,770 way, then they shouldn't be forced into a hypocritical 293 00:18:16,770 --> 00:18:21,300 position. This is However, if the vaccine is available, and 294 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:24,360 they opt not to take it they shouldn't play. Like that's what 295 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:26,640 if they don't put a public service announcement is 296 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,630 something else. They should not be forced to do public service 297 00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:34,530 announcements, even if i think it's it's foolish not to. Now, 298 00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:36,900 let me tell you why I think it's foolish not doing what I think 299 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:39,750 their problem is. In the Venn diagram, right? You have the 300 00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:43,410 different circles and where they overlap is the shaded area. This 301 00:18:43,410 --> 00:18:48,390 is a perfect storm, another metaphor for it. of, of this 302 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,840 vaccination issue. Number one, that pro athletes pro athletes 303 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,810 care about what they put in their body. And and anyone hears 304 00:18:54,810 --> 00:18:58,440 Wait, I'm putting a dead disease in my body, even the thought of 305 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,680 it's disturbing to a lot of people to me, yes. You 306 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,500 understand the science very well, you still say I just don't 307 00:19:04,500 --> 00:19:07,950 like the idea of it. And pro athletes want to be sure about 308 00:19:07,950 --> 00:19:10,380 what they're ingesting. And unless it's going to help them 309 00:19:10,380 --> 00:19:13,740 on the field of play, especially. That's one, two, 310 00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:16,890 there's a lot of anti vaxxer nonsense out there, just 311 00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:21,270 nonsense and low quality information that many among us 312 00:19:21,330 --> 00:19:27,060 have have swallowed and kind of internalized and now believe the 313 00:19:27,060 --> 00:19:32,940 anti vaxxer industry is utter nonsense, nonsense. That's all 314 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,300 nonsense. However, there's an overlap there too, because many 315 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:39,600 in the population, including in the NBA have subscribed to it, 316 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,480 as many people have subscribed to a lot of low quality 317 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,470 information in recent years. And misinformation. And three you 318 00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:50,010 mentioned it, Stephen A, the United States has a bad history 319 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,670 with African American people don't they? And and including 320 00:19:53,670 --> 00:19:58,440 experiments on African American people, right. And this is so 321 00:19:58,740 --> 00:20:01,920 you are Yes. So if you're thinking, Well, I'm not going to 322 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,980 be you want me to take that? Are we sure about this? Are you 323 00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:08,100 experimenting on me? I think all three things come into play 324 00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:08,430 here. 325 00:20:09,690 --> 00:20:10,530 Wow. 326 00:20:12,210 --> 00:20:15,540 You can hear Stephen A Smith. Like this. That's exactly what I 327 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:19,440 was talking about max like, right? In this has been a common 328 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:24,990 thing with Max. He always an owner spectrum of black. I mean, 329 00:20:24,990 --> 00:20:33,360 cuz we know black is a title not a race or a brand brand Excuse 330 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:38,190 me. Exactly. He's He's always found himself Stephen A Smith 331 00:20:38,190 --> 00:20:42,270 has been seen as a conservative person. Or, you know, he even 332 00:20:42,270 --> 00:20:46,290 said that black people should vote republican one time to send 333 00:20:46,290 --> 00:20:49,650 a message to the Democratic Party. He quickly came back on 334 00:20:49,650 --> 00:20:55,200 that statement. He got the phone, for sure. And then it 335 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,590 just his overall tone, and you know, and things of that nature. 336 00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:03,030 So it makes it easy for max to, you know, one up him when it 337 00:21:03,030 --> 00:21:08,070 comes to the blackness. So, um, Steven that you can hear the 338 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:13,530 biggest pain. Oh, yeah. And I'm Steven age voice like, you're 339 00:21:13,530 --> 00:21:19,290 doing it again. Right. Um, so yeah, so it irks them. And then 340 00:21:19,290 --> 00:21:22,800 you just heard him say, and this is a great opportunity for you 341 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,590 to ask the question about experiment, Adam. Well, 342 00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:30,420 as I was gonna say that we had a I'd actually, offline off the 343 00:21:30,420 --> 00:21:33,960 show I, we talked about this, and I said, Hey, man, I can 344 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,460 remember exactly. So I hope you remember your exact answer. I 345 00:21:38,460 --> 00:21:42,600 said, you know, this Tuskegee experiment, I said, Yeah, 346 00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:46,170 absolutely. It was a long time ago, and even clean. But you 347 00:21:46,170 --> 00:21:48,420 know, it's so bad. Even President Clinton had to 348 00:21:48,420 --> 00:21:51,330 apologize for it. But it seems like it's being used as a 349 00:21:51,330 --> 00:21:55,230 crutch. Like, that's the only thing I ever hear. Not that it's 350 00:21:55,230 --> 00:22:00,360 not valid, but seems a little bit like a cop out. Because, you 351 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:03,090 know, so much has happened since then, which I think is also 352 00:22:03,090 --> 00:22:07,020 valid to be suspicious of government in general. So 353 00:22:07,050 --> 00:22:09,810 what I yeah, what I would say it's not a crutch. It's the 354 00:22:09,810 --> 00:22:14,160 repellent. It's a it's the one thing that you can say that, you 355 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,760 know, resonates, you know, with whoever is asking you and 356 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,360 putting pressure on you to say, what about Tuskegee? Right, 357 00:22:21,390 --> 00:22:24,960 right. You kind of got to back off the person, which we have 358 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,910 our worse experiments. 359 00:22:27,479 --> 00:22:29,759 Well, you said that you could discuss you said something else 360 00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:32,579 to me, which which stuck in my mind. Go ahead. Well, I 361 00:22:32,580 --> 00:22:35,670 said a lot about the battery mom. And this was just 362 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:38,250 Adam and Moe talking as friends. Right, which is what the show is 363 00:22:38,250 --> 00:22:42,240 as well. It's just we weren't rolling tape. I said, No, here's 364 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,270 what you said to me. You said, Adam, you've got to understand 365 00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:51,060 for black men, just using black as a brand. You said we hate 366 00:22:51,060 --> 00:22:55,230 going to the doctor. Because Yeah, yeah. And I and I say, I'm 367 00:22:55,230 --> 00:22:57,510 gonna spit it back to you see if I got it, right. And I said, 368 00:22:57,540 --> 00:23:01,170 Okay, and by the way, I haven't seen the inside of actual 369 00:23:01,170 --> 00:23:04,290 medical doctor's office in many, many years to do functional 370 00:23:04,290 --> 00:23:08,250 medicine, all kinds of other stuff. Voodoo shit. Smells, and 371 00:23:09,330 --> 00:23:13,110 and you say no black men, we know that the doctors only a 372 00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:16,380 pillar, a knife. That's it, and it brings a whole bunch of other 373 00:23:16,380 --> 00:23:20,190 crap with it. And by the way, if this black man here in Texas 374 00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:23,400 feels the same way. That's why I never go. I don't want to have 375 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,560 any of that stuff. I don't trust him anymore. 376 00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:30,090 And that's the that's the only two options you have for it. And 377 00:23:30,660 --> 00:23:33,630 if you don't have a solution other than that, and and why go 378 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,720 I mean, you know what you need to do eat healthy exercise, 379 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,950 those kinds of things. But 380 00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:40,830 well, I mean, there are there are some absolute things that 381 00:23:40,830 --> 00:23:44,190 that needs to be looked at. But I was just surprised because 382 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:51,600 obviously, a lot of a das men go to the doctor for a high blood 383 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,200 pressure, and for and for diabetes. 384 00:23:55,469 --> 00:24:00,239 Most of the time, that's because just a free visit. a loved one 385 00:24:00,239 --> 00:24:04,649 is pressured to go. You're free physical, and I'll say like, 386 00:24:05,369 --> 00:24:10,559 full disclosure, my wife is like I scheduled your free physical. 387 00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:16,770 Oh, interesting is that is that kind of thing? Tina does with it 388 00:24:16,770 --> 00:24:17,670 with a dentist. 389 00:24:19,140 --> 00:24:21,510 It's not like we're picking up the phone line. Let me get my 390 00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:26,220 blood pressure change. That kind of thing. But I also want to 391 00:24:26,370 --> 00:24:29,880 bring to the show that it's used as a repellent as well for 392 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,480 people that may not be vaccine friendly. Because that backs you 393 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,570 up often we will offer Yeah, very easily. We need a new dead 394 00:24:36,570 --> 00:24:39,450 black person, you know. Just wait. 395 00:24:40,650 --> 00:24:43,890 I think there's a couple that we kind of overlooked who who died 396 00:24:43,890 --> 00:24:45,870 within days of their vaccination. 397 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,530 We got a whole host of things that look at now. All 398 00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:52,800 right. All right. Thank you. I'm glad we brought that back up. 399 00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:55,770 But yeah, that's what they're, that's what they're alluding to. 400 00:24:55,890 --> 00:25:01,620 Because the Tuskegee one is the one that every bit In the shared 401 00:25:01,620 --> 00:25:04,980 consciousness of people, so it's like you say Tuskegee, and is 402 00:25:04,980 --> 00:25:07,320 our magnet? Well, I'm not going to push that any further, 403 00:25:07,530 --> 00:25:09,720 because I know where that goes. But you see that only has so 404 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:16,050 many legs, what's going on now and exactly in society. So, just 405 00:25:16,050 --> 00:25:19,560 as a reminder, let's go back to show 16. And this is the 406 00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:23,280 ultimate example of this is around the Colin Kaepernick 407 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,550 situation. And Steven Naismith was critical of Colin 408 00:25:26,550 --> 00:25:30,990 Kaepernick, and I think this is when he did that stage workout 409 00:25:30,990 --> 00:25:35,280 for Nike and that whole thing Yeah. And Tara Owens confront 410 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,120 Steven Naismith. 411 00:25:36,180 --> 00:25:39,420 So what he wanted was transparency for people to see 412 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,810 the full workout to see the full Colin Kaepernick again, you 413 00:25:42,810 --> 00:25:45,120 mentioned obviously Max is going to get in here like so. I'm in 414 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:49,170 the streets. Max almost seems blacker than you, Steven A. with 415 00:25:49,170 --> 00:25:51,390 with with with the upcoming 416 00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:56,100 commentator with all due respect, my man Oh, wait a 417 00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:58,950 minute. Wait a minute. I'm gonna check you right now. You don't 418 00:25:58,950 --> 00:26:04,800 cry. I'm just saying. You don't. First of all, like I say you 419 00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:10,800 Eric Reid, any of y'all that wanted to bait me in front of 420 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,770 black people and talk about what's best for black people 421 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,740 named the time and place I'll show up. I don't want to hit 422 00:26:16,770 --> 00:26:19,620 what's the definition of blackness? Is there a definitive 423 00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:20,820 definition of blackness? 424 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,430 Hmm. Yeah, remember this? 425 00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:27,630 So, in the meantime, there was 426 00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:33,750 it was pretty, it was pretty insulting what he says you 427 00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:35,490 should vote for Trump. 428 00:26:35,999 --> 00:26:39,119 Especially true omens being a black man. You know what that 429 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,779 means? Like you couldn't he might say that over and over 430 00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:49,289 again, you might get punched um yeah, you don't say that. You 431 00:26:49,289 --> 00:26:53,489 just don't say that. But that was a he wanted to triggers that 432 00:26:53,489 --> 00:26:56,759 even a Smith and that was a low hanging fruit to do it with but 433 00:26:56,759 --> 00:27:00,629 in the meantime I have to give cash to people up on YouTube via 434 00:27:00,629 --> 00:27:08,309 news co Kwame brown case cam came out and made Steven a Smith 435 00:27:08,309 --> 00:27:13,979 his number one target and label their whole crew they go along 436 00:27:13,979 --> 00:27:16,169 to get along gang Hey boo like 437 00:27:17,790 --> 00:27:22,830 someone else. Tina was talking about this. handkerchief 438 00:27:22,860 --> 00:27:27,270 handkerchief heads. Have you ever heard this term? No, I 439 00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:30,720 haven't. But it's also supposed to be get along go along crew. 440 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,400 Thank you. Okay. Yeah, 441 00:27:32,850 --> 00:27:35,580 I haven't heard that but that's what he labeled him and it 442 00:27:35,580 --> 00:27:40,110 stuck. And you know, and it's putting a lot of pressure on 443 00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:43,500 Stephen a smear and you can tell because he even made a reply 444 00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:48,990 video to Kwame brown own his show. So that mean that tell you 445 00:27:48,990 --> 00:27:52,920 how far I've gotten up on their skin. And not only has Kwame 446 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,540 brown gotten up on this, Steven a skin Max has and this is the 447 00:27:57,540 --> 00:28:00,990 second follow up clip to what Terrell Owens said and Max had 448 00:28:00,990 --> 00:28:04,890 to chime in on on what happened here and I know Max, you didn't 449 00:28:04,890 --> 00:28:06,960 have a chance to jump in and I'm sure you want to respond. 450 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,050 Okay guys a shot of explosive when to you said tongue in 451 00:28:10,050 --> 00:28:13,260 cheek. You said that Steve that I seen blacker than Stephen A 452 00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:16,050 and Steven a obviously had to respond to that. And I want to 453 00:28:16,050 --> 00:28:19,020 respond to that before I say what I originally wanted to say. 454 00:28:19,260 --> 00:28:22,230 Which is first of all, I can't eat any more all the cookouts 455 00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:26,130 I've been invited to like since this whole thing came up. I see 456 00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:30,660 Steven a is having inherited not only a respect for authority, 457 00:28:30,660 --> 00:28:35,010 but a working knowledge of reality and what it takes to get 458 00:28:35,010 --> 00:28:38,130 ahead, no excuses. You can always look for excuses. You can 459 00:28:38,130 --> 00:28:40,050 look for things to lean on. You can look for where it's not 460 00:28:40,050 --> 00:28:44,760 perfect. Or you can do what you have to do, which is what Steven 461 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,450 a is done. And I would say that his his that your point of view, 462 00:28:48,450 --> 00:28:52,590 Steven a to Steven A's point of view, is not less black 463 00:28:52,590 --> 00:28:56,970 necessarily than someone else's who's more strident. It is more 464 00:28:56,970 --> 00:29:00,000 conservative in certain respects. And my point of view 465 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,630 is oftentimes more progressive. My own background is Jewish, 466 00:29:03,630 --> 00:29:06,570 secular, not religious, but Jewish secular. So one of the 467 00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:10,350 things you get around Passover is act like you were a slave in 468 00:29:10,350 --> 00:29:13,290 Egypt. That's how I grew up. Like you know, with that 469 00:29:13,290 --> 00:29:16,350 tradition of always look at the oppressed and look for 470 00:29:16,410 --> 00:29:19,380 righteousness and justice. And so I'm striking in that way. 471 00:29:19,410 --> 00:29:23,250 However, me myself I did not have to go through the struggle 472 00:29:23,250 --> 00:29:24,210 like that he 473 00:29:24,210 --> 00:29:32,100 made it to the cookout. He made it to the barbecue. So let me 474 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:35,340 explain to you what Steven Naismith may have been hearing 475 00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:40,680 as I'm a black man, right? Yes, good. Go for it here and I know 476 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,470 Max, you didn't have a chance to jump in and I'm sure you want to 477 00:29:43,470 --> 00:29:43,770 respond. 478 00:29:43,890 --> 00:29:46,860 Okay, guys a shot of explosive when to you said tongue in 479 00:29:46,860 --> 00:29:50,070 cheek. You said that, Steve that I seem blacker than Stephen A 480 00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:52,860 and Stephen A obviously had to respond to that. And I want to 481 00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:55,830 respond to that before I say what I originally wanted to say, 482 00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:59,040 which is first of all, I can't eat any more all the cookouts 483 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,970 I've been Decided to like since this whole thing came up. I see 484 00:30:02,970 --> 00:30:06,870 Stephen A is having inherited not only a respect for 485 00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:11,250 authority, but a working knowledge of reality and what it 486 00:30:11,250 --> 00:30:12,120 takes to get ahead. 487 00:30:12,330 --> 00:30:15,210 Yeah. That respect for authority. Yeah. 488 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,530 Where's that coming from? 489 00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:21,960 That? No, that's it. He's a good house slave. Yeah. 490 00:30:22,169 --> 00:30:24,539 Well, either that or she listened to your mom because 491 00:30:24,539 --> 00:30:28,109 she'll whoop your ass. But yeah, I took it that way, too. 492 00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:32,969 Right. Let's bring in Steve. I know he's over there saving Cz. 493 00:30:33,809 --> 00:30:37,919 Us respectful. And then he uses word like straining. So I mean, 494 00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:39,779 let's keep going. Oh, I'm 495 00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:42,000 sorry. I didn't I didn't realize you want me to roll? 496 00:30:42,629 --> 00:30:44,549 That's fine. That's fine. We don't even know what you heard 497 00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:45,719 the call? No, I 498 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,010 got it. Yep. 499 00:30:47,099 --> 00:30:52,409 He's laughing on the inside. And then he's like, Well, you know, 500 00:30:52,409 --> 00:30:56,399 Steven a, you know, I'm, I'm more strident with my rebellion. 501 00:30:56,579 --> 00:30:59,489 And you know, he's, he's controlable. He's the you know, 502 00:30:59,489 --> 00:31:04,319 he's the good Negro. No, I'm telling you this how to receive. 503 00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:06,119 And if you don't believe me, listen to number nine. What 504 00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:06,539 happened? The 505 00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:09,060 rumors accurate in terms of me wanting them off the show? Let's 506 00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:14,250 get that out of the way. Yes, I did. You know, we don't have a 507 00:31:14,250 --> 00:31:19,260 bad relationship. I think he's a real good guy. I appreciate what 508 00:31:19,260 --> 00:31:23,430 he did for the show. We would never want for five years. We 509 00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:26,880 stayed number one, and I appreciate that. But what a lot 510 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,610 of people don't realize is that the work that goes into doing 511 00:31:29,610 --> 00:31:33,600 the show, every single day, in the nine years that I've been on 512 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:39,150 first take I've given over 33,000 takes. And what a lot of 513 00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:41,910 people don't realize is that not just the work that goes into 514 00:31:41,910 --> 00:31:46,020 that. But also the fact that is a chemistry that you have, and 515 00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:52,590 sometimes it just stalls. And the audience let you know that 516 00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:55,710 it is what it is that you feel the need for something fresh, 517 00:31:55,710 --> 00:31:59,940 you feel the need to retool. And the reason why I'm unapologetic 518 00:32:00,270 --> 00:32:04,110 about my position is that number one is no knock against him 519 00:32:04,110 --> 00:32:07,950 personally, his professionalism, his work ethic, and all of that 520 00:32:07,950 --> 00:32:12,330 other stuff, his talent. It's not like I wanted the guy to be 521 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:15,450 fired or anything like that. I knew that there were landing 522 00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:20,490 spots for him available at this network that would generate just 523 00:32:20,490 --> 00:32:23,760 as much if not more revenue for him and all of that other stuff. 524 00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:28,320 And it wasn't really about asking him to be off the show. 525 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,360 It was about the fact that I knew that we together as far as 526 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,260 I was concerned, was not a great partnership anymore. And that 527 00:32:37,260 --> 00:32:40,290 was something that needed to change. It also wasn't my 528 00:32:40,290 --> 00:32:44,430 decision. You know, I gave my recommendation. They ask it I 529 00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:47,100 tell it every single year when the season you know, when the 530 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:50,700 NBA season comes to an end, the boss has asked me where I stand. 531 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,900 And for the last three years, I said this is where I stood. 532 00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:58,500 Man shows you who's got the juice. Whoa. 533 00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:03,030 Recent juice. He says I've been asking for him to be fired for 534 00:33:03,030 --> 00:33:05,640 three years now. Yeah, because he's been blacker to me, you 535 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,200 know, saying not my words. But that's been the sentiment that I 536 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,160 mean, you heard what Max said that I'm I can't go any more 537 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:20,010 cookouts. I'm full over here and it got underneath even a skin 538 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,810 and that combine that with get a lot going on. Get him on gang. 539 00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:25,230 This is 540 00:33:25,230 --> 00:33:28,740 so on his heels two years ago, you wouldn't have any of these 541 00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:31,800 conversations during sports programming, would you? 542 00:33:34,650 --> 00:33:39,660 it picked up really around. Colin kapernick that was like, 543 00:33:39,930 --> 00:33:42,870 Okay, yeah, so that was three, three years. Yeah. Yeah. 544 00:33:42,990 --> 00:33:46,260 So that was the genesis of the conversation Steven a one to 545 00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:50,970 keep it to sports. Max knew as long as he's like that cool hip 546 00:33:50,970 --> 00:33:54,510 hop, kind of white guy. You're saying he likes rap, you know, 547 00:33:54,510 --> 00:33:57,390 and that kind of thing. So he knows a rat references. So he 548 00:33:57,390 --> 00:33:57,810 can 549 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:06,450 like the douchebag Ari Melbourne on MSN. That guy I just want to 550 00:34:06,450 --> 00:34:09,090 rip his neck off and pull it through the TV screen. 551 00:34:09,570 --> 00:34:17,520 In all fairness, never go for a very bad idea. But Max is like 552 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:23,790 Nah, he's not at nobody's beds are are his pit cover him. 553 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,760 In the genius words of two pucks record I'm like click don't want 554 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,240 to hear Yeah, 555 00:34:30,270 --> 00:34:34,470 exactly. But in the thing was steaming as leaves off because 556 00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:38,400 he's the host headliner. That's right. So all Max has to do is 557 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,120 sit back in the 558 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,540 cut and kathlyn shack and shut up and be normal. 559 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,870 No, I'm saying is the tactic that he uses in the debate 560 00:34:45,870 --> 00:34:48,840 because it's the debate show is what it is. I mean, that's sure 561 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,260 what 562 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,350 what are they debating? That's the problem. It's like don't 563 00:34:52,350 --> 00:34:54,990 debate that get out of here. This is sports. 564 00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:59,730 Correct. But you know, ESPN went for woke and now they're 565 00:34:59,730 --> 00:35:03,780 claiming They have to even go for work, because they fire 566 00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:05,970 several different people over there. But I just want to show 567 00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:09,900 you why all of a sudden he after three years they give in to his 568 00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:14,580 request, is it because he rolled up his sleeve and said, I'll be 569 00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:21,540 your Vax man, huh? With that says, Let's get into number 10, 570 00:35:21,660 --> 00:35:24,540 I certainly don't believe they should be forced to do a PSA, I 571 00:35:24,540 --> 00:35:27,840 totally agree with you there. What I will say, however, is 572 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,020 that the athletes themselves have put themselves in a 573 00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:34,650 position where people feel they should be compelled to do such a 574 00:35:34,650 --> 00:35:38,370 thing. But by virtue of the reach that they have, and how 575 00:35:38,370 --> 00:35:41,190 they float that reach and the impact that it has, like, for 576 00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:45,060 example, if you want to sit up down to dress, and I know that 577 00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:47,730 it's apples and oranges and a lot of people's eyes, but not to 578 00:35:47,730 --> 00:35:51,660 me, when you sit up there, you want to address racial injustice 579 00:35:51,660 --> 00:35:54,180 issues, and you're talking about it's not just about myself, it's 580 00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:58,080 about my family, it's about my community, etc, etc. Well, in a 581 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,260 different in a completely different kind of way. So is the 582 00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:04,650 coronavirus pandemic, because the fact of the matter is, is 583 00:36:04,650 --> 00:36:08,940 that we you get ill chances are you can make someone else ill 584 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,090 chances are is going to be a member of your family, a loved 585 00:36:12,090 --> 00:36:17,190 one, etc, etc. And that reality being as pertinent as it is, 586 00:36:17,310 --> 00:36:21,180 does elevate the level of responsibility. If you say, on 587 00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:24,690 under any circumstances, that something is not about you, it's 588 00:36:24,690 --> 00:36:27,990 about the impact that you know, you have the voice that you 589 00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:30,990 know, you have the fact that you can give a voice to the 590 00:36:30,990 --> 00:36:35,730 voiceless, etc, etc. And that was impetus enough or motivation 591 00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:39,360 enough for you to take certain positions and to put yourself on 592 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,780 Front Street, then someone in the medical profession can 593 00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:47,430 simply come to you and say, Okay, we've got over 400,000 594 00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:52,740 deaths nationwide, we've got millions upon millions who have 595 00:36:52,740 --> 00:36:57,360 died from this worldwide, it's contagious, and is a vaccine 596 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:02,820 that is proven thus far that it can help raise that issue. Do 597 00:37:02,820 --> 00:37:06,900 you not feel an obligation to do that they can ask the question, 598 00:37:07,290 --> 00:37:07,680 man, 599 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,320 the spell is so powerful. 600 00:37:11,340 --> 00:37:15,030 And this was early on this is before the approval of anything 601 00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:17,010 a vaccine is proven 602 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,920 and he's proven and he's he's saying that you have to take it 603 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,540 to protect others which is the opposite of what a vaccine does. 604 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:31,560 Well, the A never let you know the truth get in the way of 605 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,500 famous Alex Jones. Hot look. Because of that it's my nobody 606 00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:41,130 cares about facts. Nobody cares about truth. You might know 607 00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:46,320 about a guy named Joe Rogan. And you saw why they did him and 608 00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:49,770 this was like the what what do you think was the reason for the 609 00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:52,890 show that the media is completely sold out? all media 610 00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:53,640 was interesting. 611 00:37:54,690 --> 00:37:58,530 But yeah, what's interesting about Joe You know, I've been on 612 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,190 business Joe's show three times that just briefly before this, 613 00:38:02,220 --> 00:38:06,780 this last time when he when he got COVID every single time he 614 00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:10,140 has a nurse on on site, the minute you come in, you can't 615 00:38:10,140 --> 00:38:12,690 even really walk far into the door, you have to sit down and 616 00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:15,810 she does the test. And then I always asked for an antibody 617 00:38:15,810 --> 00:38:18,360 test to see if I might have had it which you don't have. 618 00:38:19,170 --> 00:38:23,520 Although I'm pretty sure I've T cell immunity. And knowing Joe 619 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:29,700 from two years ago, when he was scouting out locations in in 620 00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:32,940 Austin, and he had his mother in law. I think his mother in law 621 00:38:32,940 --> 00:38:38,610 may live with them. His wife, his two daughters, and he was 622 00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:43,380 super cautious, no handshaking masks. I wouldn't ask him 623 00:38:43,380 --> 00:38:48,180 because he's my friend. But not not like we're friends. Yeah, 624 00:38:48,180 --> 00:38:50,550 we're just like, it's just none of my business. And if he wants 625 00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:55,170 to tell me you can tell me I'm 99.99% certainly got vaccinated. 626 00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,870 And he also texted me after he was cured. And he said, Well, I 627 00:39:00,870 --> 00:39:04,140 guess this vaccine is unnecessary. So the way he said 628 00:39:04,140 --> 00:39:06,780 that to me, man, he definitely got the vaccine but the 629 00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:10,230 assumption right away and that's kind of, I wish he would say 630 00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:11,190 something about it. 631 00:39:11,580 --> 00:39:17,190 That's the written No, we a and I want to say something I ended 632 00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:21,420 last year and I said the white phone and what I mean by that is 633 00:39:21,420 --> 00:39:24,690 there's a white Boulay phone and there's a black Boulay phone, 634 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:27,660 you know, saying like, Joe knows, I mean, I mean, excuse 635 00:39:27,660 --> 00:39:31,110 me, me. I don't wanna speak for him. But everybody in the 636 00:39:31,110 --> 00:39:33,570 entertainment industry knows there's certain things you can 637 00:39:33,570 --> 00:39:38,850 say that your phone will ring. And sometimes people just don't 638 00:39:38,850 --> 00:39:43,560 want that smoke. I mean, like, I mean, this. This is what Steven 639 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,840 Naismith This is what LeBron James is doing to bring it back 640 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:51,390 to the topic. He He knows the light of big a large of his 641 00:39:51,390 --> 00:39:57,000 following are Vax hesitant. Sure, sure. And he's like, if I 642 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,170 take this if I take it, I got it. Come out on before throwing 643 00:40:01,170 --> 00:40:03,540 it about and that's what Stephen A Smith is calling on him to do, 644 00:40:03,540 --> 00:40:06,900 right? Usually, that's when the you the you he's talking about 645 00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:13,200 is the Brian right you know you put your face on everything you 646 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,630 know you're want to be Taco Tuesday LeBron. And now as all 647 00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:21,570 of a sudden when is vac Tom, you're saying you want to owe us 648 00:40:21,570 --> 00:40:26,070 a person decision? No, it doesn't work like that. Um, and 649 00:40:26,070 --> 00:40:31,440 NASA was happy he sold his soul A long time ago. Right, but I'm 650 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,060 gonna say this. And this is just me speculating. But if the Bron 651 00:40:36,060 --> 00:40:43,260 James wanted to talk Michael Jordan and being the most 652 00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:47,820 prolific basketball player ever, if he came out said I'm antivax 653 00:40:48,930 --> 00:40:52,920 I'm writing with my people. That might be a pathway to he can't 654 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,730 do a basketball. Let's just mean no basketball, but he just can't 655 00:40:56,730 --> 00:41:00,660 accomplish. Michael Jordan, I take your word for what this 656 00:41:00,660 --> 00:41:04,410 political issue. I'm just saying as big as this is this is not 657 00:41:04,620 --> 00:41:08,010 China. This is not Colin Kaepernick. We're talking about 658 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,750 I told you before, LeBron James could cause a problem in China 659 00:41:12,750 --> 00:41:17,100 just were his words. We talked about this to 16 where he has 660 00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:22,050 followings. I mean, like he calls his fans witnesses. I 661 00:41:22,050 --> 00:41:27,390 mean, it's like a demigod level. And if he comes out and says 662 00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:36,120 night taking it now that might catapult him over that's my 663 00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:38,550 Ollie not now you're talking about Ali and you want to 664 00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:41,160 compare yourself to Ali? Yeah, yeah, you 665 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,700 gotta be gotta be against the government to for starters. 666 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,510 What that's so that that's what put him on. I had that thought. 667 00:41:48,570 --> 00:41:52,950 I was like, now that could be the thing that puts him on par 668 00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:54,390 with Olli outside of 669 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:59,850 how in this regard, just to test the theory. How does Nicki Minaj 670 00:41:59,850 --> 00:42:03,480 fit in I'm sure you followed that, that practice because you 671 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,900 know, now here is someone who I was and maybe she's still going 672 00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:11,790 to get the Boulay call or got it now she already backtrack she 673 00:42:11,790 --> 00:42:14,850 already backtrack she's got the call. She doesn't know how she's 674 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,570 I mean that was that was quite amazing what she said I mean 675 00:42:18,570 --> 00:42:22,140 first of all, she went anti elite by saying hey I'm if I'm 676 00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:24,750 going to advance it's not for that she has now I think she has 677 00:42:24,750 --> 00:42:26,850 tweeted well you know I'm just gonna research and I'll get 678 00:42:26,850 --> 00:42:29,100 vaccine you know she's saying when I when I have to do my 679 00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:32,820 tours and everything I'm gonna go slow is I think what what she 680 00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:38,670 was saying, but I loved how she got into a big fight with with 681 00:42:38,670 --> 00:42:45,210 joy Reid. Now does this catapult her into any any sort of super 682 00:42:45,210 --> 00:42:49,440 stratospheric level by being female hip hop are definitely 683 00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:51,510 not the message we're hearing from others. 684 00:42:52,590 --> 00:42:56,010 I would say being anti Vax is soon going to be like, well, 685 00:42:56,010 --> 00:42:56,190 it's 686 00:42:56,190 --> 00:42:57,000 gonna be trendy. 687 00:42:57,450 --> 00:43:01,470 Right? I mean, like, that's the that's the ante that's the 688 00:43:02,190 --> 00:43:03,660 counterculture. Oh, my 689 00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:08,070 God, we need that ma we need the trendsetters. We need is. 690 00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:12,270 And you're starting to see I mean, like I said, with from 691 00:43:12,270 --> 00:43:16,050 abroad is easy. This is an easy one for LeBron because they 692 00:43:16,050 --> 00:43:20,040 could shoot him with sailing. And he goes on TV, he doesn't 693 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,120 have to harm his body. But he understands that his following 694 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,740 is washing and a huge part is following his race base. And 695 00:43:28,740 --> 00:43:32,790 this conversation is race based. I mean, um, as far as the 696 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:37,170 hesitancy for reasons that we've discussed before we may may, we 697 00:43:37,170 --> 00:43:43,710 may discuss later could come up but yeah, but let me just get 698 00:43:43,710 --> 00:43:46,440 back to Stephen A Smith and I want to show you he went from 699 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:53,430 being the the EU to a full on attack with Donald lemon on CNN 700 00:43:53,580 --> 00:43:54,630 basketball superstar 701 00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:58,140 LeBron James won't say whether he has received or will receive 702 00:43:58,140 --> 00:44:01,980 a Coronavirus vaccine. James outspoken on social issues like 703 00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:05,190 racial justice and voting rights very outspoken, says his own 704 00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:07,230 vaccination status is not a big deal. 705 00:44:08,970 --> 00:44:13,320 They did not do all that for as a predicate to my family, you 706 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,180 know, for the majority for 99.9% of those so knows about the 707 00:44:18,180 --> 00:44:21,720 health and safety of my family. And that's what it came down to 708 00:44:22,140 --> 00:44:25,230 me being available to my teammates on the floors and 709 00:44:25,230 --> 00:44:26,220 taking care of my body. 710 00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:28,920 Do you mind me asking if that if you're confirming that you did 711 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:36,000 get the vaccine? It's not it's no big deal. Thank you. Yeah, 712 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,600 that man, thank you. I love your outspokenness. Thank you for 713 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,170 doing this. This bothers you. You said that LeBron can have it 714 00:44:43,170 --> 00:44:45,900 both ways that he either wants to be out front and center 715 00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:49,620 bringing a voice to issues or he doesn't tell me why this is so 716 00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:50,280 important to you? 717 00:44:51,149 --> 00:44:53,609 Well, I think that you know, obviously, you know, you had me 718 00:44:53,609 --> 00:44:57,209 on your show a few months ago when I decided to take the 719 00:44:57,209 --> 00:45:00,239 vaccine. I had my reservations. There's a plethora of People 720 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,659 within the African American community that has had that have 721 00:45:03,659 --> 00:45:07,139 had reservations about taking the vaccine. But ultimately, you 722 00:45:07,139 --> 00:45:10,019 know, when you go in ICU or what have you, you see things that 723 00:45:10,019 --> 00:45:12,239 have been so profoundly detrimental to the African 724 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,509 American community. You take a stand and you take a position. 725 00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:18,899 I'm not of the position at LeBron James, normally, under 726 00:45:18,899 --> 00:45:22,859 normal circumstances, should feel any obligation whatsoever 727 00:45:23,069 --> 00:45:26,639 to divulge whether or not he's taken the vaccine. But 728 00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:29,339 considering the multitude of issues that he's been willing to 729 00:45:29,339 --> 00:45:33,419 tackle, considering what provoked him to do so because of 730 00:45:33,419 --> 00:45:37,109 concerns for his community, his people, those are his words. 731 00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:39,899 These are the kinds of things that he has said, time and time 732 00:45:39,899 --> 00:45:43,979 and time again. Then why would you not speak on the issue of 733 00:45:43,979 --> 00:45:45,479 being vaccinated and not 734 00:45:45,630 --> 00:45:50,400 man, Stephen A Smith as a cruise missile? You got the bronze 735 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,380 button right on, it's like, here we go. 736 00:45:52,770 --> 00:45:56,580 That's the that's that's this is how the Boulay phone works out 737 00:45:56,580 --> 00:45:59,190 in public. It's like we are you don't want to answer the phone. 738 00:45:59,190 --> 00:46:01,890 Hmm. All right. Okay. You know, you don't want to answer the 739 00:46:01,890 --> 00:46:04,680 phone. All right. All right, LeBron. thing that 740 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:10,200 bothers me and Steven Naismith did it is this lie that COVID 741 00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:14,400 affects black and brown communities six times more than 742 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,850 white communities. It's bullshit. It's not true. Wait, 743 00:46:17,850 --> 00:46:23,820 what? Oh, now? include this in here. And you can catch it on my 744 00:46:23,820 --> 00:46:26,430 YouTube channel where I discussed something I heard and 745 00:46:26,430 --> 00:46:31,740 I don't know how true it is. But supposedly, black people have 746 00:46:31,740 --> 00:46:33,720 more receptors in their nose. 747 00:46:39,870 --> 00:46:44,790 Wait a minute. Is that because of the size of the nostrils? Or 748 00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:48,690 could it could a Jewish man also get more because of his nose? 749 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,590 He's actually on the low in the low. 750 00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:58,980 I gotta understand this. Okay. All right. Well, I'm gonna look 751 00:46:58,980 --> 00:47:00,390 at the live man. I got to look at 752 00:47:01,260 --> 00:47:03,840 if people come over to the live 753 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,560 next Wednesday, it's gonna be great. Yeah, 754 00:47:07,590 --> 00:47:10,380 I'll discuss that in fact, but this is from this is from a 755 00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:13,260 verify doctor. So um, this is not something I'm pulling up. 756 00:47:13,260 --> 00:47:18,300 Wow. Okay, well then I may be wrong. But are we you're right 757 00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:21,180 in a sense they take but hold your babies in but hold 758 00:47:21,180 --> 00:47:26,220 on a second hold on a sec. Yeah, I'm just presuming here. That's 759 00:47:26,220 --> 00:47:30,480 because of the size and shape of the African American nose but 760 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,110 that is certainly not uniform amongst black and brown people I 761 00:47:34,110 --> 00:47:35,790 mean, there's all kinds of noses 762 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,530 that like I said, they said that we have power receptors and when 763 00:47:40,530 --> 00:47:44,970 other people have three and I'm like what what we have welfare 764 00:47:45,420 --> 00:47:48,360 You are so fortunate you finally have something more than the 765 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:53,460 white man and extra receptor enjoy it to two extra receptors. 766 00:47:55,530 --> 00:48:00,360 Okay, look, the way I see it is the way poor people are affected 767 00:48:00,540 --> 00:48:04,530 six times as much and that's also why people is poor people. 768 00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:05,160 What they 769 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:10,260 conflate it to high comorbidity rate sign Oh yeah, yeah, that 770 00:48:10,590 --> 00:48:13,530 but it sounds much better is face black people, you know, and 771 00:48:13,530 --> 00:48:16,020 that's the that's the shaming. That's the sign language the 772 00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:19,620 shame and so it's evil it's evil and I don't like it I don't like 773 00:48:19,620 --> 00:48:25,560 it. So I'm, I'm when I say this, I didn't clip this but maybe 774 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,640 later and another show. They've been putting pressure on LeBron. 775 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:34,080 They had this w NBA player come out said he's trafficking kids, 776 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,830 which was said about Epstein. That made me perk up. I'm like, 777 00:48:37,830 --> 00:48:44,580 Whoa, now. You might have sent me some clips on this cuz she 778 00:48:44,580 --> 00:48:48,330 came out and said it like it was I know what it was. It was one 779 00:48:48,330 --> 00:48:51,510 of those things like hey, we can give anything 780 00:48:51,570 --> 00:48:54,780 anytime anytime we can do anything to your wherever we 781 00:48:54,780 --> 00:48:55,140 want. 782 00:48:55,740 --> 00:49:00,330 And then they got him pushing a referee or a fan or something by 783 00:49:00,330 --> 00:49:03,180 these stories never get reported. Now all of a sudden 784 00:49:03,180 --> 00:49:05,280 they're getting reported and they're putting the pressure on 785 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,900 the Boulay nudge, yes. And the final piece of pressure is the 786 00:49:09,930 --> 00:49:13,320 unvaccinated players could miss home games. It won't 787 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,070 have a big impact if you get vaccinated if your NBA player in 788 00:49:17,070 --> 00:49:19,590 any of these cities get vaccinated, you won't have to go 789 00:49:19,590 --> 00:49:22,440 through this uncomfortable situation. But you know, listen, 790 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,260 the NBA series sending a clear sign that they're going to use 791 00:49:25,260 --> 00:49:27,780 the local guidelines even if they have to, to not let 792 00:49:27,780 --> 00:49:30,630 anything interrupt their games. They don't have the flexibility 793 00:49:30,780 --> 00:49:34,020 that they have last year to reschedule postpone games, move 794 00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:36,330 things around, release the schedule the second half of the 795 00:49:36,330 --> 00:49:38,910 schedule later, that's all out the window if you're trying to 796 00:49:38,910 --> 00:49:42,180 get back to 82 game schedule. So you know, here they found an 797 00:49:42,180 --> 00:49:45,420 opportunity where they can basically indirectly try to 798 00:49:45,420 --> 00:49:48,900 promote and also mandate the vaccine in a way not truly a 799 00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:51,840 mandate but a mandate in a way and they want to try to utilize 800 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,690 it and also avoids the politics that you've got to deal with 801 00:49:54,690 --> 00:49:57,330 with the players unions, because now they can't even say anything 802 00:49:57,330 --> 00:49:59,040 when you're dealing with government mandates or 803 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,620 government requirements. Because the government can't be beaten 804 00:50:01,620 --> 00:50:04,260 in this, obviously society, and the NBA is just taking advantage 805 00:50:04,260 --> 00:50:07,020 of a little loophole. Any of these players in Brooklyn and 806 00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:10,140 New York, Knicks and in San Francisco are immune to those 807 00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:10,830 policies. I 808 00:50:10,830 --> 00:50:13,830 got to do it, you got to do it. And they do too. And guess what, 809 00:50:13,890 --> 00:50:17,010 a lot of these arenas remember, they're on public grounds. Some 810 00:50:17,010 --> 00:50:18,900 of them are private buildings, but some of them are public 811 00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:22,080 grounds. So you got to obey by the public requirements. And 812 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,390 this requirement says you got to show a vaccination card to get 813 00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:28,350 into watch the game. And also to get into play. I saw ESPN report 814 00:50:28,350 --> 00:50:30,900 vaccinated and unvaccinated players wanting to be allowed to 815 00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:34,020 sit next to each other in locker rooms or on planes, or and they 816 00:50:34,020 --> 00:50:37,170 may have to take separate buses. I mean, it's not all final yet, 817 00:50:37,170 --> 00:50:39,780 but it seems like players could have very different experiences 818 00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:40,440 this season. 819 00:50:41,730 --> 00:50:42,540 Man, 820 00:50:43,140 --> 00:50:47,820 so LeBron is running out of runway here, because he can't 821 00:50:47,820 --> 00:50:50,580 sit out when he goes to Brooklyn, he can't go sit out 822 00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:54,780 when he goes to Madison Square. We can't do that. He can't sit 823 00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:57,480 out when he goes to Golden State. These are marquee games. 824 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,600 these are these are the ones they sell the ads around, right. 825 00:51:00,630 --> 00:51:01,230 Um, 826 00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:06,000 so I said, Do you think that he actually has a conscience that 827 00:51:06,030 --> 00:51:09,390 he doesn't want to lie about it? Because he feels that, you know, 828 00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:12,720 people will mimic him or I mean, 829 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:20,760 Bron, James, or whoever is around LeBron James has good. 830 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,470 Timing, timing, on where the public stands. And when I mean, 831 00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:31,230 the public, the black public, quote, unquote, black public, 832 00:51:31,230 --> 00:51:35,010 right? And it's like, you can't jump out this window and be pro 833 00:51:35,010 --> 00:51:38,400 vaccine. Because that's gonna, like I said, that's going to 834 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,010 split your following. I mean, we're seeing this split and 835 00:51:41,010 --> 00:51:42,480 people, and it's not 836 00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:46,920 splitting relationships, Mo it's splitting families. It's very, 837 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,860 very, very sick. Right. And 838 00:51:49,860 --> 00:51:52,560 so what LeBron thought he was going to be able to deep dive, 839 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:57,090 dive and say, Hey, you know, this is a personal, you know, 840 00:51:57,180 --> 00:51:59,490 yeah, this is a guy that comes out and let everybody know, he 841 00:51:59,490 --> 00:52:02,760 spent $6 million on his body every year, you know, saying to 842 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,910 get into shape. So from that standpoint, I just want to say 843 00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:08,490 be genuine. If he if he's genuine, I understand it. He 844 00:52:08,490 --> 00:52:10,950 wants to put something experimental into your body that 845 00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:15,990 you've honed, here's the answer be fine. Fine to machine bright, 846 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,160 just on a surface level. 847 00:52:17,249 --> 00:52:20,429 Exactly. But then what he doesn't do is what you suggested 848 00:52:20,429 --> 00:52:23,909 is you know, get some say lean or whatever. And do the Nancy 849 00:52:23,909 --> 00:52:28,829 Pelosi bent needle on that was a vice president Harris. The Ben 850 00:52:28,829 --> 00:52:32,669 Platt needle plastic cap? Why wouldn't he do that? Because he 851 00:52:32,669 --> 00:52:34,889 really can't wait. He doesn't want to be dishonest. 852 00:52:35,370 --> 00:52:40,170 No, he doesn't want to divide heard. His own herd you mean? 853 00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:44,700 Yes. Because in his herd I mean, down the split. Yeah, it could 854 00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:47,310 be 3070 6040 855 00:52:47,339 --> 00:52:48,719 what do you what do you think it is? What 856 00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:51,450 do you think? I would probably say it's somewhere between 857 00:52:51,450 --> 00:52:59,640 7030 6040 I'm probing low no high high. I'm just saying I'm 858 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,280 just giving him the benefit of doubt later. Lot of his 859 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:07,920 followers a woke what is inside that? is, you know, is he 860 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,730 doesn't want to divide his herd period. And it just puts him in 861 00:53:11,730 --> 00:53:15,570 a weird spot. And he's telling him like, hey, like, this is bad 862 00:53:15,570 --> 00:53:19,080 for the brand, but they're like, this is bigger than your brain 863 00:53:22,290 --> 00:53:24,000 is way bigger than your brand so 864 00:53:24,090 --> 00:53:28,050 I'm so happy you told me about this because I had no idea this 865 00:53:28,050 --> 00:53:31,020 was playing I mean little bit, because it really doesn't seep 866 00:53:31,020 --> 00:53:33,810 through unless you're really into NBA. I guess you'd be 867 00:53:33,810 --> 00:53:36,090 watching ESPN. Otherwise 868 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,060 not no not and that's why I laid the clip off that was CBS Los 869 00:53:39,060 --> 00:53:42,120 Angeles a little 24 minutes or two it's gonna be 24 second clip 870 00:53:42,270 --> 00:53:44,610 right on there. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're 871 00:53:44,610 --> 00:53:48,210 right. So it's like why we're certain was the vaccination 872 00:53:48,210 --> 00:53:53,160 status a big deal when you start seeing it seep into mainstream 873 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:58,020 news? Yeah. Now I got my eyes on it. Yeah, right. And it's like 874 00:53:58,020 --> 00:54:02,190 what How far would they go to um, are they willing to risk you 875 00:54:02,190 --> 00:54:06,030 know detonate in their on one of their number one assets? You 876 00:54:06,030 --> 00:54:10,140 know, on the altar of vaccine How long do you think he has 877 00:54:10,140 --> 00:54:13,020 until he has to say something? Well, the first game cuz 878 00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:15,840 whenever you're first getting the first game with a mandate 879 00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:20,100 and it's like, yeah, that point now he might go there and like 880 00:54:20,130 --> 00:54:22,410 just let it blowing up but they're not gonna let it even 881 00:54:22,410 --> 00:54:25,260 when he does show up for the game and he is vaccinated gonna 882 00:54:25,260 --> 00:54:27,660 make a big deal out of it. They got to Yeah, he's not 883 00:54:27,660 --> 00:54:29,130 vaccinated, but he won't play 884 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,090 so which game which game was out do we have our eyes on? I'm 885 00:54:33,090 --> 00:54:33,300 gonna 886 00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,540 get the schedule. And I'll be letting you know on whichever 887 00:54:36,540 --> 00:54:39,390 one shows up in New York first or in the San Francisco next 888 00:54:39,390 --> 00:54:39,990 Golden State. 889 00:54:40,020 --> 00:54:42,390 Now how do I how do I how do I how do I play the spread on 890 00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:50,400 facts not Vax. Said he doesn't have a sheet about sports or 891 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,180 sports betting. 892 00:54:51,540 --> 00:54:56,190 You don't need to know about sports, sports. I'll tell you 893 00:54:56,190 --> 00:55:00,840 that. It's all about us. Yeah, um, so That's the first block. 894 00:55:00,870 --> 00:55:04,020 All right, I like that. Very good. Alright, so the second 895 00:55:04,020 --> 00:55:07,050 block was pertinent to the first block and let's go and get into 896 00:55:07,050 --> 00:55:11,670 the IC O. Henrietta Lacks black woman that got eaten alive by 897 00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:13,680 cancer in one week. Oh, yeah, 898 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,050 I heard about this story. Tina was telling me this. She just 899 00:55:16,050 --> 00:55:17,010 told me that today. 900 00:55:18,510 --> 00:55:24,090 Awesome. Oh, awesome. Awesome. Yeah, not because that mean is I 901 00:55:24,090 --> 00:55:27,330 mean, I mean that by the literal definition of the word because 902 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,770 they've had her under wraps. They'll talk about now this 903 00:55:31,770 --> 00:55:34,350 answers your question. Why did they talk about Tuskegee? 904 00:55:35,130 --> 00:55:39,120 Tuskegee is men. Yeah, well, they killed some men with 905 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,110 syphilis. Ah, they, you know, whatever, whatever. gangbangers 906 00:55:43,110 --> 00:55:47,940 whatever. Right. But if you say Henrietta Lacks, and the story 907 00:55:47,940 --> 00:55:53,250 behind her a black woman being used a spirit man and own or 908 00:55:53,250 --> 00:55:58,620 whatever the narrative is, that hits a whole different way 909 00:55:58,620 --> 00:56:01,890 across the my body, my choice, yeah, across a lot of these 910 00:56:01,890 --> 00:56:05,940 narratives. And they've tried to keep it under wraps. And what 911 00:56:05,940 --> 00:56:08,940 we're going to do is get into her story, and I think a good 912 00:56:09,090 --> 00:56:12,930 place to start is the official trailer from HBO about her or 913 00:56:12,930 --> 00:56:14,040 more immortal life. 914 00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:20,580 For years, it seemed like a dream bout our mother. Could 915 00:56:20,580 --> 00:56:28,500 this be true? But you don't understand this. We didn't know 916 00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:29,760 nothing but nothing. 917 00:56:31,980 --> 00:56:34,500 Scientists have been trying to get cells to grow outside of the 918 00:56:34,500 --> 00:56:38,430 human body, but they would always die. Until Henrietta's 919 00:56:38,430 --> 00:56:44,310 cells came along. I want to write a book about your mother. 920 00:56:45,210 --> 00:56:56,610 Go healer go healer that's my mother. At this everyone's 921 00:56:56,610 --> 00:57:01,230 saying Henrietta Lacks donated themselves. She did donate 922 00:57:01,260 --> 00:57:07,020 nothing. They took them and didn't ask. Hospital is guilty 923 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:12,630 as somebody is going to pay a disease to provide one for 924 00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:22,590 himself. I'm not doing anything behind your back. Henry added 925 00:57:22,590 --> 00:57:36,930 help develop the AIDS cocktail therapy treatments. It's hard 926 00:57:36,930 --> 00:57:39,540 not to get caught up in hope when you've been powerless for 927 00:57:39,540 --> 00:57:53,700 so long. You will pardon me? Okay, I've looked. In the 928 00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:55,170 meantime. Yeah. 929 00:57:57,900 --> 00:58:01,290 Excuse me. So this is the healer sales. And I don't know if you 930 00:58:01,290 --> 00:58:05,490 know much about it. But they they neighbor, her is the mother 931 00:58:05,490 --> 00:58:10,080 of modern modern medicine. Because her sales, not only do 932 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,640 they grow outside of the body, they were they replicate every 933 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,130 24 hours. So this open, right? 934 00:58:17,970 --> 00:58:21,150 They're used in medical research today. I guess they're ongoing 935 00:58:21,150 --> 00:58:24,870 because they they they can keep making new new cells. 936 00:58:25,470 --> 00:58:33,480 Eight, I mean, as HIV cancer, even the COVID-19 vaccine is 937 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,910 part of healing. And it's like, why are you not celebrating this 938 00:58:35,910 --> 00:58:40,080 woman? Because if you talk about her story, you had to talk about 939 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,320 how she was robbed of her sales. This is why they want to talk 940 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,760 about Tuskegee instead of Henrietta Lacks. 941 00:58:48,570 --> 00:58:52,770 Oh, of course, and otherwise, how would I've ever heard about 942 00:58:52,770 --> 00:58:57,630 her? Well, gotta have the mo faxes. Let me know what's going 943 00:58:57,630 --> 00:58:57,870 on. 944 00:58:58,439 --> 00:59:00,239 Alright, let's go and get into number 15. 945 00:59:00,330 --> 00:59:04,830 I gotta say about that is hallelujah. Finally somebody 946 00:59:04,830 --> 00:59:06,240 want to talk about my mama? 947 00:59:06,810 --> 00:59:10,410 Oprah Winfrey plays the daughter of Henrietta Lacks the woman who 948 00:59:10,410 --> 00:59:15,090 transformed modern medicine and had no idea. To this day many 949 00:59:15,090 --> 00:59:16,650 have never heard her name. 950 00:59:16,830 --> 00:59:19,140 I started asking people to you know, have you ever heard of 951 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,300 her? No one had so 952 00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:24,150 something Winfrey is now determined to change 953 00:59:24,450 --> 00:59:27,270 the significance of what her cells have bent. I think the 954 00:59:27,270 --> 00:59:29,340 world needs to know that and now they will. 955 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,270 lax was a young mother of five who died of cervical cancer in 956 00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:37,830 1951 at Johns Hopkins, where doctors found her unique and 957 00:59:37,830 --> 00:59:41,310 aggressive cancer cells were the first to grow in a lab. 958 00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:45,390 Henrietta never gave doctors permission to use her cells and 959 00:59:45,390 --> 00:59:47,490 her family was never told. 960 00:59:47,519 --> 00:59:49,379 We didn't know nothing bad nothing, 961 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,550 like nothing they'd seen before. Those cells shortened to healer 962 00:59:53,550 --> 00:59:57,120 instead of Henrietta's full name were used to test the polio 963 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,810 vaccine develop in vitro fertilization. drugs used to 964 01:00:00,810 --> 01:00:04,680 fight cancer just to name a few. Her daughter Deborah and author 965 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,190 Rebecca Skloot, finally uncovered the truth. But Deborah 966 01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:12,270 died just before Sloot's book was published, I refuse 967 01:00:12,270 --> 01:00:18,390 to cry. But I could. When I think about Deborah, how eager 968 01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:22,470 she was to know about her mother and to have this story told 969 01:00:22,650 --> 01:00:22,950 about 970 01:00:22,980 --> 01:00:25,710 Henrietta's cells were reproduced in labs around the 971 01:00:25,710 --> 01:00:28,560 world and millions of dollars changed hands. 972 01:00:29,070 --> 01:00:32,730 Becca showed me the papers where he wanted to use her name, but 973 01:00:32,730 --> 01:00:33,300 the lawyers 974 01:00:34,290 --> 01:00:36,150 made all that money off of 975 01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:38,670 me that died. 976 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:47,940 Oh, okay. I just wow. Head exploding. You know, in the 80s, 977 01:00:48,030 --> 01:00:52,080 I was involved in so much aids charity raising. That's how I 978 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,170 know Fauci that a whole he was always around all the big 979 01:00:55,170 --> 01:01:00,300 parties hanging out. I have my own thoughts. We've discussed 980 01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:02,550 them privately think publicly that I think we would really 981 01:01:02,550 --> 01:01:07,200 aact that was the biggest problem a Fauci invention, very 982 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,040 much like, like remdesivir. So anyway, in all those years, 983 01:01:11,130 --> 01:01:17,640 knowing, having read many books, never heard of Henrietta Lacks. 984 01:01:18,180 --> 01:01:21,210 And you haven't heard her name brought up with COVID yet? Why 985 01:01:21,210 --> 01:01:27,180 is that? This should be a selling point. The black lady 986 01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:29,760 that saved the world with business and her sales that was 987 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,370 able to make this vaccine, that would be the selling point, but 988 01:01:32,370 --> 01:01:38,580 you know what, then we got to talk about her. And they stole 989 01:01:38,580 --> 01:01:42,450 her sales, posh. She was experiment on basically, and 990 01:01:42,450 --> 01:01:45,510 then it's more create more distress, which this is why they 991 01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:46,440 can't use her and 992 01:01:46,590 --> 01:01:50,190 this is the story I wanted. This is the new tusky story. 993 01:01:50,370 --> 01:01:56,460 This is the teskey times 100. You wish you wait until we go 994 01:01:56,460 --> 01:01:57,060 all the way down. 995 01:01:57,930 --> 01:02:02,190 Now I see an article in the Hindustan Times. 996 01:02:03,330 --> 01:02:05,220 Of course, hello, India. 997 01:02:05,970 --> 01:02:08,730 Yeah, Henrietta Lacks cells were used to carry out research for 998 01:02:08,730 --> 01:02:11,880 the first polio vaccine first in vitro fertilization for cancer 999 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:17,610 most recently for studying the effects of SARS. cov replication 1000 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:23,520 in the human body right in the US, the top hit it Hindustan 1001 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,130 Times way to go American media day. 1002 01:02:27,570 --> 01:02:31,890 This by when I when we see stuff that's missing, that speaks 1003 01:02:31,890 --> 01:02:35,370 louder than the things that are there, because it's like, why is 1004 01:02:35,370 --> 01:02:41,130 this big? I mean, this if they didn't take the sales in the way 1005 01:02:41,130 --> 01:02:45,150 they did, she would be celebrated as like I said, as 1006 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,780 black girl magic. This is the male this, this is the black 1007 01:02:48,780 --> 01:02:52,680 lady to save the world. But they can't do it, because then it 1008 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,760 brings up more questions about experimentation on black people. 1009 01:02:57,030 --> 01:02:59,790 And it's fascinating that they've suppressed this, and I'm 1010 01:02:59,790 --> 01:03:03,030 looking at the timeline. This this official trailer was 1011 01:03:03,030 --> 01:03:07,920 created in 2017. Is it like did they create over to spin this 1012 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,620 because you heard her saying the clip? Oh, Johns Hopkins didn't 1013 01:03:10,620 --> 01:03:13,380 do that. Yeah. Yeah. 1014 01:03:14,730 --> 01:03:18,390 That's insane. Then this was from Wendy, this was from 1015 01:03:18,990 --> 01:03:24,120 this 17 that when it happened, it happened in it? No, no. 1016 01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:28,020 The Oprah the Oprah thing. That's 2007 2017. Okay. Yeah. 1017 01:03:28,020 --> 01:03:28,170 And 1018 01:03:28,170 --> 01:03:31,080 what Hopkins? I mean, now you can feel me because you're, 1019 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:35,370 you're, you've been on top of the whole COVID thing. The 201 1020 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,120 thing out of Hopkin event. 201. Yeah, right. So that planning, 1021 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,340 is this part of it. Oh, well, I 1022 01:03:41,340 --> 01:03:44,880 was certainly certainly around the time they were planning it. 1023 01:03:44,910 --> 01:03:52,770 I mean, right. He seraiah definitely gets like, like, pump 1024 01:03:52,770 --> 01:03:55,140 the brakes a bit more. I mean, it's like my head spinning. 1025 01:03:55,140 --> 01:03:56,760 Here's something I've never heard of. 1026 01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:59,730 Well, let's listen to 16 that your hands start spinning in. 1027 01:04:02,010 --> 01:04:06,540 Johns Hopkins says it did not profit. The family got nothing. 1028 01:04:06,810 --> 01:04:10,500 But for the next generation. There is a new mission now. You 1029 01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:10,680 can't 1030 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,380 help but be proud of what is done. So when you think about 1031 01:04:13,380 --> 01:04:15,630 that, like okay, something may have happened but something so 1032 01:04:15,630 --> 01:04:17,100 much good has come from it. 1033 01:04:17,459 --> 01:04:20,939 David lakhs now sits on a board at the National Institutes of 1034 01:04:20,939 --> 01:04:24,809 Health helping to decide just what Henrietta's gene sequence 1035 01:04:24,809 --> 01:04:25,649 is used for. 1036 01:04:26,129 --> 01:04:29,579 I think we ought to think of a lacs family as some of the 1037 01:04:29,579 --> 01:04:33,719 greatest philanthropists in medicine of all time. 1038 01:04:33,990 --> 01:04:38,640 They speak around the country, urging doctors to never forget 1039 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,160 the patient behind the petri dish. 1040 01:04:41,220 --> 01:04:48,630 She was a woman. She was black, with limited education, limited 1041 01:04:48,630 --> 01:04:51,180 finances and look what she has done for the world. 1042 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,070 Rebecca Skloot has set up a foundation for the laxus and 1043 01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:59,370 others who have contributed to science without their consent. 1044 01:04:59,820 --> 01:05:00,630 If Want to take in 1045 01:05:00,630 --> 01:05:03,720 just a few minutes to listen to her and ask her to answer our 1046 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,270 questions. It will change the whole story for her for her 1047 01:05:06,270 --> 01:05:06,810 family, 1048 01:05:07,140 --> 01:05:10,020 a family now taking back its history. 1049 01:05:10,380 --> 01:05:15,720 I think what we're trying to say is that her life really 1050 01:05:15,870 --> 01:05:16,830 mattered. 1051 01:05:18,060 --> 01:05:23,520 A legacy just like Henrietta's cells living on Kristen 1052 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,890 Dahlgren, NBC News, Los Angeles, 1053 01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:28,080 again, all 2017 I guess. 1054 01:05:28,530 --> 01:05:31,260 Yes. And this is this is the Crump effect right? When when 1055 01:05:31,260 --> 01:05:37,140 you see these people tragic who tragically killed, um, they 1056 01:05:37,140 --> 01:05:40,800 bring in you know, the crop and I think crop is maybe involved 1057 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,440 in this family. You might congratulate me on the flower 1058 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,820 but um, this is the fact right you bring it in, make the family 1059 01:05:47,820 --> 01:05:51,840 you know, well, we forgive john hopkins and in the movie, you 1060 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,540 say they didn't during Johns Hopkins let me correct that. 1061 01:05:55,140 --> 01:05:58,470 They didn't do anything really. They didn't know. They didn't 1062 01:05:58,470 --> 01:06:01,890 profit from it. It's that that word profit, yeah, chronic 1063 01:06:01,890 --> 01:06:03,300 Rumson, Crumpton. 1064 01:06:07,230 --> 01:06:07,980 Now that 1065 01:06:09,210 --> 01:06:13,380 is the Crump effect. This tragedy happens. He comes in 1066 01:06:13,380 --> 01:06:14,400 smooth waters, 1067 01:06:14,430 --> 01:06:19,200 and this is an article or an article from July 31 2021. 1068 01:06:19,650 --> 01:06:23,880 Now the bags wasn't big enough. They said millions and when they 1069 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,000 say, No, you can't be one of the biggest finance, academics and 1070 01:06:27,330 --> 01:06:30,660 philanthropists yet. Thank you, sir. Got a lot of real estate. 1071 01:06:30,690 --> 01:06:31,650 These lips moving around, but 1072 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,550 I wouldn't know mo I've never seen you. Yeah. 1073 01:06:39,930 --> 01:06:44,820 But yeah, so I'm sure he's like millions. You know, crops. Ears 1074 01:06:44,820 --> 01:06:50,340 probably perked up. We're talking billions here. And so 1075 01:06:50,460 --> 01:06:53,430 the bag wasn't big enough. So the family's probably coming out 1076 01:06:53,430 --> 01:06:57,840 the john hopkins. So Wow. It gets deeper. 1077 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,950 But wait, there's much more. There's there's much 1078 01:07:01,950 --> 01:07:06,060 more. So we have this is from john hopkins, Johns Hopkins 1079 01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:12,000 Medicine YouTube page and this is Henrietta Lacks her impact 1080 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:12,960 and outreach. 1081 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,810 At the center of the Henrietta Lacks story, are people asking 1082 01:07:18,810 --> 01:07:23,220 questions for people trying to understand the biology of human 1083 01:07:23,220 --> 01:07:28,470 cells. It's it's there for bioethicists for patients. This 1084 01:07:28,470 --> 01:07:31,380 is why Johns Hopkins is committed to outreach and 1085 01:07:31,380 --> 01:07:34,170 education for all the community. It's a 1086 01:07:34,170 --> 01:07:37,560 labor of love. We all feel like we're connected to this 1087 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:42,720 beautiful woman who we call the mother of medicine. It really 1088 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,650 makes you think about how powerful and impact one person 1089 01:07:47,220 --> 01:07:48,630 unknowingly could make. 1090 01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:50,190 I would say that 1091 01:07:50,190 --> 01:07:55,140 Henrietta is probably the, if not the most important, 1092 01:07:55,140 --> 01:07:58,590 certainly one of the most important women in science and 1093 01:07:58,590 --> 01:08:03,840 medicine. And we all learn and follow Henrietta Lacks legacy, 1094 01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:07,590 as we contribute to research and medicine. 1095 01:08:09,150 --> 01:08:12,930 Henrietta Lacks was a 31 year old woman, it headed to Johns 1096 01:08:12,930 --> 01:08:18,420 Hopkins in 1951 for the diagnosis and treatment of 1097 01:08:18,420 --> 01:08:23,520 cervical cancer. Unfortunately, she had a very aggressive cancer 1098 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,960 and within a year, she had died. As part of the care she received 1099 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:32,640 to Johns Hopkins. The cells from her share legs were brought into 1100 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:38,040 a laboratory and cultured and it become the first human living 1101 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:43,230 cell line, which has allowed us to learn remarkable things about 1102 01:08:43,230 --> 01:08:44,880 how human cells function. 1103 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,770 Yeah, when this whole when this Crump thing propped up I think 1104 01:08:49,770 --> 01:08:52,410 this is when they started posting these videos on their 1105 01:08:52,410 --> 01:08:53,700 website and on YouTube. 1106 01:08:55,350 --> 01:08:57,930 And care it's like what kind of care Did you give me you do 1107 01:08:57,930 --> 01:09:01,200 staler sales or culture this that's what they want to say all 1108 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:05,580 they cultured her sales, but they're still her body. I mean, 1109 01:09:05,580 --> 01:09:09,540 my chicken never rest in peace. I mean, I mean, if you want to 1110 01:09:09,540 --> 01:09:10,500 think about it that way. 1111 01:09:11,460 --> 01:09:17,280 It's it's, although not exactly the same. It's like you can't 1112 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:21,540 just be printing up t shirts with Elvis on it. Correct. It's 1113 01:09:21,540 --> 01:09:25,320 not exactly the same, but I think it's even more egregious. 1114 01:09:25,710 --> 01:09:25,890 But 1115 01:09:26,910 --> 01:09:28,470 I don't know if there's any likeness. 1116 01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:30,900 I mean, I just don't know if there's any law. I know what the 1117 01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:34,290 law the law is about that. This should be for sure. Screw that. 1118 01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:39,300 And what what idiots what Ed? is john hopkins You mean like his 1119 01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:41,190 check. Quiet. 1120 01:09:41,670 --> 01:09:46,140 They think they tried. A million when you 1121 01:09:46,140 --> 01:09:48,750 get when you get Crump on the scene. Yes. Right. The bag 1122 01:09:48,750 --> 01:09:49,620 expands. 1123 01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:54,540 The bag has to be much bigger. The family was playing along in 1124 01:09:54,540 --> 01:10:01,890 2017. Right with the movie. Now, not home. Mine was part of COVID 1125 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:02,400 COVID 1126 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,800 vaccine? Well, no, I think it's different. This is a wait a 1127 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,230 minute Look at this guy who did what he did for George Floyd's 1128 01:10:07,230 --> 01:10:08,910 family. You know, 1129 01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:12,300 they understand about the money like in the news. This is a 1130 01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:15,210 billion dollar and Yeah, of course. Yeah. And they're like, 1131 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,790 What? Wait, wait, wait, wait, and y'all gave us know, whatever 1132 01:10:17,790 --> 01:10:19,950 the amount was filling in the blank. I don't know what it was, 1133 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,160 or you know, or positions or praise or no 1134 01:10:23,190 --> 01:10:26,610 rights as board advisory board position. I think I heard Yeah. 1135 01:10:26,850 --> 01:10:31,560 Yeah. So it's like, of course, when you use the crop, that's 1136 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,530 one thing about Chrome is about the money. I mean, he's coming 1137 01:10:34,530 --> 01:10:38,160 for them for the moolah. So that's another thing that we 1138 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,380 that's why I said that. I can never do a full show or any of 1139 01:10:40,380 --> 01:10:43,260 these because the stories are finished, but these are kind of 1140 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,610 things that we need to keep an eye on. Yeah. of will they use 1141 01:10:47,610 --> 01:10:51,930 her as a topic or not? So same thing with the bronze situation. 1142 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,150 So now we have Rebecca sleuth, 1143 01:10:54,780 --> 01:10:59,430 skuse. I think it's Skloot, Skloot, glutes, 1144 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,630 which this is, this is the market three map their mocker 1145 01:11:03,630 --> 01:11:06,960 see now and their moral life. 1146 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,790 As we continue our conversation with Rebecca Skloot, the author 1147 01:11:11,790 --> 01:11:15,660 of the best selling book, The Immortal Life of Henrietta 1148 01:11:15,660 --> 01:11:20,130 Lacks. We're doing the story today, because this week, Johns 1149 01:11:20,130 --> 01:11:25,290 Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland, has just named a 1150 01:11:25,380 --> 01:11:31,260 building after Henrietta Lacks. She, they were there with the 1151 01:11:31,260 --> 01:11:34,770 lacs family members of the lacs family and today we're going to 1152 01:11:34,770 --> 01:11:37,710 talk about a woman who you may have never heard of, or maybe 1153 01:11:37,710 --> 01:11:40,710 you just heard about her name, because this book has been on 1154 01:11:40,710 --> 01:11:43,830 the bestseller list for so many years, the Immortal Life of 1155 01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:47,640 Henrietta Lacks. Rebecca, it's great to have you stay with us. 1156 01:11:47,790 --> 01:11:50,910 Can you talk about how you discovered the story? 1157 01:11:50,940 --> 01:11:54,360 Yeah. I learned about the cells when I was 16, and a basic 1158 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:58,380 biology class. Most people do my teacher, you know, he talked 1159 01:11:58,380 --> 01:12:00,750 about the healer cells and all the amazing things they've done 1160 01:12:00,750 --> 01:12:03,420 for science. And then he happened to know her name. Most 1161 01:12:03,420 --> 01:12:06,510 people actually, at that point in time, knew her as Helen lane, 1162 01:12:06,510 --> 01:12:08,820 which was a fake name, basically, that was put out, 1163 01:12:09,450 --> 01:12:11,790 connected to the cells. And he wrote Henrietta Lacks on the 1164 01:12:11,790 --> 01:12:14,610 board in big letters, and just said she was a black woman. And 1165 01:12:14,610 --> 01:12:16,980 that was it. And I went up to him after class, and I was like, 1166 01:12:16,980 --> 01:12:19,440 what else do we know about her? And it's God, kids. And what do 1167 01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:21,900 they think about all this? And he just said, Sorry, no one 1168 01:12:21,900 --> 01:12:24,870 knows anything. And I just became obsessed with this 1169 01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:27,570 question of who this woman was and what we can do. What 1170 01:12:27,570 --> 01:12:31,470 happened. And why we didn't know it seemed so you were in high 1171 01:12:31,470 --> 01:12:32,760 school. inconceivable to me. 1172 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,280 Interesting. There was an alias out there. 1173 01:12:35,820 --> 01:12:38,070 Yeah, maybe big knockoffs. 1174 01:12:42,090 --> 01:12:49,830 Instead of Chanel was his channel. Yeah, exactly. Like it 1175 01:12:49,830 --> 01:12:51,270 sells on Canal Street. 1176 01:12:53,010 --> 01:12:56,880 That's so disgusting. Like they knew that you don't know. Like 1177 01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:57,900 you did anything wrong. 1178 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,550 Name. Oh, my goodness. This is this is a this is a scandal. 1179 01:13:03,090 --> 01:13:06,180 And another point is we're coming out right on the 70 year 1180 01:13:06,180 --> 01:13:09,240 anniversary. I'm sure Crump looking at it as well. Like, 1181 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:14,700 hey, say her name, say her name. Say or say your name. Relax. I'm 1182 01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:16,590 sure you're gonna want to do something different here. 1183 01:13:16,620 --> 01:13:21,270 Henrietta Lacks building. You don't want me to hang out there. 1184 01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:24,840 Yeah. And and as people join us, they're noisy. 1185 01:13:25,410 --> 01:13:31,440 Yeah. So I mean that this is a very volatile situation for how 1186 01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:36,120 they play this because this only Stokes the fire if Crump. Crump 1187 01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,060 knows where he has him. Because he's like, you're trying to 1188 01:13:39,060 --> 01:13:43,320 convince black people. Tuskegee is kind of blowing over. And 1189 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:47,880 then this story blows up on a 7070 year anniversary, how you 1190 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,900 basically stole this woman and it's a woman and it's a woman 1191 01:13:52,050 --> 01:13:53,310 and a black woman. 1192 01:13:55,080 --> 01:14:00,120 Oh, this is so good. Moe. Wow. Thanks, man. I love you for this 1193 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:05,040 is great. I'm glad I'm glad. Yeah, this is excellent. These 1194 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,330 people are so evil. 1195 01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:07,920 19 1196 01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:12,450 talk about the history of medical experimentation in the 1197 01:14:12,450 --> 01:14:16,230 black community, for example, and you had to do a lot of work 1198 01:14:16,230 --> 01:14:19,710 and research for your remarkable book The Immortal Life of 1199 01:14:19,710 --> 01:14:23,040 Henrietta Lacks, for example, the text of the Tuskegee 1200 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:23,760 experiment. 1201 01:14:25,230 --> 01:14:28,740 Yeah, there's there's a long history of black people being 1202 01:14:28,740 --> 01:14:32,520 used in research without their consent in this country. And one 1203 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,250 of the most famous examples of that is the Tuskegee syphilis 1204 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:39,300 studies. Though it had been happening in the slavery era, 1205 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,230 you know, and beyond. And the Tuskegee studies were sort of 1206 01:14:43,230 --> 01:14:45,180 one of the most unethical things. I think that's probably 1207 01:14:45,180 --> 01:14:48,420 happened in science, the United States, the hundreds of black 1208 01:14:48,420 --> 01:14:52,740 men were essentially studied. They had syphilis, and they were 1209 01:14:52,740 --> 01:14:55,290 studying to watch how syphilis killed you from infection to 1210 01:14:55,290 --> 01:14:58,080 death, and they weren't offered treatment even when treatment 1211 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,780 was available. So at a certain point, you could have cured this 1212 01:15:00,780 --> 01:15:03,720 with antibiotics. And they weren't given the option and 1213 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:08,040 didn't know that they were part of this experiment. And so it 1214 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,760 wasn't, it was at the end of that. There was actually a lot 1215 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,090 of press surrounding that. And it did a tremendous amount of 1216 01:15:15,090 --> 01:15:19,290 damage to trust within sort of, you know, black communities when 1217 01:15:19,290 --> 01:15:23,310 it comes to science and medical getting medical care. So that's 1218 01:15:23,310 --> 01:15:26,610 just one in a long line of sort of stories in history and 1219 01:15:26,610 --> 01:15:30,660 Henrietta's story, you know, has been that within certain areas 1220 01:15:30,660 --> 01:15:33,000 where people know about her like in East Baltimore, around 1221 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,750 Hopkins, it's sort of been oral history, Pastor black 1222 01:15:36,750 --> 01:15:39,690 communities as part of why it's hard to trust science. 1223 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:45,120 Oh, nice little tag, they're hard to trust science. 1224 01:15:45,330 --> 01:15:51,450 Aha. And as she says, Baltimore, aka the black butterflies, what 1225 01:15:51,450 --> 01:15:55,620 it's called, because they have this slim section of white 1226 01:15:55,950 --> 01:16:00,000 neighborhoods. And then outside of it is blackness on sand on 1227 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:06,990 both sides of Baltimore. So this was kind of known in the area 1228 01:16:06,990 --> 01:16:11,700 locally by Ed Hopkins. Yeah, they experiment on you. Wow. 1229 01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:14,730 It's the same thing with Grady down in Atlanta. Right. shady 1230 01:16:14,730 --> 01:16:20,370 Grady? Yeah. Which he had a very suspect past. It's like, all of 1231 01:16:20,370 --> 01:16:25,920 these hospitals are named after or have histories that are 1232 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,140 problematic. Use the term. 1233 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:33,930 my mouse is hanging open right now. And please tell me this all 1234 01:16:33,930 --> 01:16:37,050 stems from me bitching about the Tuskegee story that you went you 1235 01:16:37,050 --> 01:16:42,630 you you decided to, to check out another rabbit hole? Yeah, or 1236 01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:43,920 kind of fell on you fell in your lap? 1237 01:16:44,490 --> 01:16:49,050 Yeah. Now what happens is, when you ask me a question, I give 1238 01:16:49,050 --> 01:16:51,690 you a short answer. But then if I can give you a longer answer, 1239 01:16:51,690 --> 01:16:55,470 maybe the producers had the same question. So it's by let me go 1240 01:16:55,470 --> 01:16:58,830 ahead and address this. And then with the LeBron thing, it does 1241 01:16:58,830 --> 01:17:02,010 fit in like, you know, perfect, yes. Perfect. Oh, 1242 01:17:02,099 --> 01:17:05,459 this is fantastic. Very interesting. And the only the 1243 01:17:05,459 --> 01:17:08,939 only sad thing is, this interview is Democracy Now with 1244 01:17:08,939 --> 01:17:12,659 Amy Goodman. She's like the kiss of death for stories. Like once 1245 01:17:12,659 --> 01:17:15,269 you're on democracy now. It's like going nowhere. 1246 01:17:15,690 --> 01:17:17,760 Yes. Like, we covered it. It's that kind of thing. 1247 01:17:18,690 --> 01:17:21,030 What do you mean? What do you mean, it wasn't on PBS? Look 1248 01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:22,680 over here democracy now. Yeah. 1249 01:17:22,860 --> 01:17:27,180 Right. So I mean, and like, say the Tata two together, they 1250 01:17:27,510 --> 01:17:32,040 didn't do this. They taught Tuskegee with Yeah. They, they 1251 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,130 try to soft shoe it though. Like in certain areas. It's, it's the 1252 01:17:35,130 --> 01:17:38,310 same, but it's not like Tuskegee. So I mean, that this 1253 01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:42,990 is damage control. And I'm, like, we don't want to piss out 1254 01:17:42,990 --> 01:17:46,440 the people at Hopkins. Right. But we have to kind of it's like 1255 01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:51,630 a limited Hangout. Perfect. Sure. So, um, let's go ahead and 1256 01:17:51,630 --> 01:17:52,590 get into part three. 1257 01:17:52,770 --> 01:17:55,860 So Henry had a one of the most amazing things to me about this 1258 01:17:55,860 --> 01:17:58,710 moment is Henry actually knew there was something wrong, she 1259 01:17:58,710 --> 01:18:02,670 just sort of sensed it. And she actually found this tumor 1260 01:18:02,670 --> 01:18:06,600 herself on right on the outside of her cervix and went to went 1261 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,660 to Hopkins, and just sort of went in and said, I have this 1262 01:18:09,660 --> 01:18:12,870 lump. And I need to, it needs to be looked at. And in that 1263 01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:15,270 moment, you know, this, she went to Hopkins, because it was the 1264 01:18:15,270 --> 01:18:17,730 only place where she could go as a black woman, this was the era 1265 01:18:17,730 --> 01:18:21,630 of segregation. So there was colored wards, and you know, the 1266 01:18:21,630 --> 01:18:25,350 white wards and hospitals, and most places wouldn't actually 1267 01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:28,470 didn't have a colored Ward, so she couldn't even go. And the 1268 01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:31,530 thinking at the time was sort of, you know, the people who 1269 01:18:31,530 --> 01:18:34,110 ended up in what they referred to as the public Ward, were 1270 01:18:34,110 --> 01:18:36,900 either black or they were poor, and they couldn't afford care. 1271 01:18:37,050 --> 01:18:39,600 And the thinking was, well, we're giving you free medical 1272 01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,690 care, as payment, we get to do whatever we want with you, 1273 01:18:42,690 --> 01:18:44,670 essentially. And so there was a lot of research that was 1274 01:18:44,670 --> 01:18:47,190 conducted in these wards that people didn't know about at the 1275 01:18:47,190 --> 01:18:51,570 time. And so Henrietta showed up, they she ended up going 1276 01:18:51,570 --> 01:18:55,020 under anaesthetic to get this biopsy of her cervix. And that's 1277 01:18:55,020 --> 01:18:58,710 when the doctor just took a little extra piece and put that 1278 01:18:58,710 --> 01:19:03,360 in a dish and sent it to George guy who was the head of tissue 1279 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,730 culture research and had been trying to grow cells for 1280 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:06,450 decades. 1281 01:19:06,839 --> 01:19:07,919 And what happened then? 1282 01:19:09,450 --> 01:19:14,070 They never died. Yeah, so her cells, most cells die unable to 1283 01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:16,770 keep cells alive. Pardon? Oh, well, so they've been able to 1284 01:19:16,770 --> 01:19:20,130 keep cells alive for maybe 24 hours in the in the past, but 1285 01:19:20,130 --> 01:19:23,370 hers just not only did they not die, but they begin doubling 1286 01:19:23,370 --> 01:19:26,040 their numbers every 24 hours. So they just grew with this 1287 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,130 incredible intensity that no one had ever seen before 1288 01:19:29,550 --> 01:19:30,630 a cash machine. 1289 01:19:31,230 --> 01:19:35,040 Know what it's like. It's a popular phrase. And I don't know 1290 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,590 if it's just solely in the black community, but we don't die we 1291 01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:42,900 multiply. This is literally that, you know, you take you 1292 01:19:42,900 --> 01:19:49,620 take him out, take herself out, um, and they won't die. And not 1293 01:19:49,620 --> 01:19:55,350 only do they don't die, but they grow this tremendous amount of 1294 01:19:55,350 --> 01:20:00,330 vigor. It's amazing and it's like, the sad thing is We should 1295 01:20:00,330 --> 01:20:04,230 be celebrating this woman for her. Right? Like I said that 1296 01:20:04,230 --> 01:20:07,290 she's the mother of modern medicine, because a lot of 1297 01:20:07,290 --> 01:20:11,220 things can happen. But the fact that it was done under such 1298 01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:13,350 shady No, 1299 01:20:14,220 --> 01:20:17,490 you know, I hear this and, and and you know, yeah, we can't 1300 01:20:17,490 --> 01:20:23,340 trust science because of this. One mind immediately goes to the 1301 01:20:23,370 --> 01:20:26,910 the poorest neighborhoods in America where Planned Parenthood 1302 01:20:27,420 --> 01:20:32,820 is, is based, who the hell knows what they're doing? Who the hell 1303 01:20:32,820 --> 01:20:34,350 knows what's going on. 1304 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,850 And now you see why not only to ski but free healthcare in 1305 01:20:38,850 --> 01:20:42,360 general are when black people went and got health care, it's 1306 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,180 like, well, you know, they're gonna take something by me while 1307 01:20:45,180 --> 01:20:49,260 they in there. Hey, Matt built the distrust between the middle 1308 01:20:49,290 --> 01:20:53,490 of day talking about it's a distrust between doctors and 1309 01:20:53,490 --> 01:20:58,440 black people. I mean, as a real distress there because history. 1310 01:20:59,190 --> 01:21:03,720 All you have is a knife or appeal for me. And then you hear 1311 01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:08,850 these stories. shady gradient Atlanta, in Atlanta. Yeah. You 1312 01:21:08,850 --> 01:21:13,230 hear Hopkins in Baltimore. And I'm sure every major city has a 1313 01:21:13,230 --> 01:21:16,470 hospital that Oh, yeah, you go in you ain't coming out. Yeah. I 1314 01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:19,230 mean, but that's the narrative with the ventilators now, right? 1315 01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:22,050 If you go in and you ain't coming out, it's like, that's 1316 01:21:22,050 --> 01:21:24,480 the narrative. And welcome to the bottom. 1317 01:21:27,570 --> 01:21:30,000 No, we've been bouncing around here for a while mo it's 1318 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:30,780 recognized. 1319 01:21:31,290 --> 01:21:36,390 Not you. You've you've been like it's even last known to the 1320 01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:41,940 bottom now. Yeah, it's it's becoming firm that is not racing 1321 01:21:41,940 --> 01:21:46,020 anymore. It's your status. And if you don't want to take it, 1322 01:21:46,050 --> 01:21:50,100 then you're on the bottom. And as you heard her say that, you 1323 01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:54,660 know, I'm, that makes me wonder, like, if you give me this thing, 1324 01:21:54,660 --> 01:21:57,480 this stuff for free? What comes along with it? 1325 01:21:57,750 --> 01:22:01,500 They always take something. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, just 1326 01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:05,910 as an aside to that, I was watching an Israeli talk show. 1327 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:11,670 Well, it was a clip from it, which was subtitled. And it was 1328 01:22:11,670 --> 01:22:15,180 so funny. The people are outraged, because now they're 1329 01:22:15,180 --> 01:22:19,680 learning that Israel was really a giant laboratory for Pfizer. 1330 01:22:20,130 --> 01:22:24,090 And I think it wasn't that obvious. It was, it was like 1331 01:22:24,090 --> 01:22:26,370 that was the only one you could get it was and everyone was 1332 01:22:26,370 --> 01:22:29,160 talking about it that way. And now all of a sudden people like 1333 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,160 Hey, wait a minute, we were used as a giant experiment, a giant 1334 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:33,030 petri dish. 1335 01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:39,270 will speak in Israel, we got to go back to show 29. And this is 1336 01:22:39,270 --> 01:22:40,230 clip number 21. 1337 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,290 For several years, the Israeli government was forcibly 1338 01:22:43,290 --> 01:22:46,260 administering birth control to a segment of its minority 1339 01:22:46,260 --> 01:22:50,160 population, with doctors injecting Ethiopian Jewish women 1340 01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,820 against their will with a contraceptive Depo provera. But 1341 01:22:53,820 --> 01:22:56,220 it wasn't until this January that a government official 1342 01:22:56,220 --> 01:22:59,460 finally acknowledged it. And while the government has finally 1343 01:22:59,460 --> 01:23:02,550 put an end to this inhumane, insane population control 1344 01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:06,510 tactic, the story has shed light on a dangerous contraceptive 1345 01:23:06,510 --> 01:23:09,480 that's now being pushed administered on women of color 1346 01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:14,490 all over the world, including right here in the US. So here to 1347 01:23:14,490 --> 01:23:16,950 talk about the use of Depo provera. And how this is 1348 01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:20,910 targeting minority populations in both here and abroad. I'm 1349 01:23:20,910 --> 01:23:22,950 joined now by Randy short president and national 1350 01:23:22,950 --> 01:23:26,130 spokesperson for the anti depper clergy coalition. 1351 01:23:26,340 --> 01:23:27,780 Yeah, eugenics 1352 01:23:29,460 --> 01:23:31,710 in the same place, the same place 1353 01:23:32,010 --> 01:23:36,000 unbeliev you know, I was reading actually was part of my 1354 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,380 basketball team ownership research. Okay. And, you know, 1355 01:23:40,380 --> 01:23:43,950 the Nazis. We all know about operate. We've talked about 1356 01:23:43,950 --> 01:23:46,260 Operation Paperclip, and how they brought over a whole bunch 1357 01:23:46,260 --> 01:23:50,010 of the Nazis, including Wernher von Braun, but in World War Two, 1358 01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:55,140 there were two brothers who had a legal firm and and they 1359 01:23:55,890 --> 01:23:58,230 represented a lot of the US companies who were doing 1360 01:23:58,230 --> 01:24:04,320 business with the Nazis, IBM, General Motors, Ford, I'm sorry, 1361 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:09,810 Ford. Dulles, okay, the Dulles brothers, of course, well, and 1362 01:24:09,810 --> 01:24:12,120 Allen Dulles went on to create the CIA, 1363 01:24:12,570 --> 01:24:15,600 and has the airport name for him right here in DC. 1364 01:24:15,900 --> 01:24:20,550 He also was also instrumental in appointing Hoover as creating 1365 01:24:20,550 --> 01:24:25,980 the FBI. I mean, it's to me it's like it's a very it's an easy 1366 01:24:25,980 --> 01:24:30,300 hop to say the Nazis. You know, they came in, they never left, 1367 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,270 they're still still up to their own tricks with the Schweitzer 1368 01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,730 men now they're doing it to everybody. 1369 01:24:36,900 --> 01:24:39,630 That's the ultimate goal, right? I mean, that was the ultimate 1370 01:24:39,630 --> 01:24:44,610 goal then and they're persistent little buggers is that they 1371 01:24:44,610 --> 01:24:45,570 don't stop 1372 01:24:46,110 --> 01:24:50,010 you know, thank God I you know, it must be the weed because I 1373 01:24:50,010 --> 01:24:52,320 really if I think about this too much, you know, I just need to 1374 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:59,400 go to sleep at night. It's just it's, it's so it's almost so 1375 01:24:59,610 --> 01:25:02,520 it's so This what's what probably is going on here that 1376 01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:03,630 you don't want to believe it. 1377 01:25:05,190 --> 01:25:08,220 And that's the crazy part is like what you have to that's why 1378 01:25:08,220 --> 01:25:11,100 we discussed this and gallows humor and laugh about it, of 1379 01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:13,290 course, because you have to mock it. 1380 01:25:13,770 --> 01:25:16,650 That's the only only well the only way to break the spells we 1381 01:25:16,650 --> 01:25:17,520 gotta market. 1382 01:25:18,090 --> 01:25:21,960 Right. So speaking of which now we get to get into the history 1383 01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:26,490 of Johns Hopkins, and his influence on and how is it how 1384 01:25:26,490 --> 01:25:28,500 his influence parts Baltimore 1385 01:25:29,190 --> 01:25:32,940 Welcome to The Real News. jessalyn Knorr Johns Hopkins a 1386 01:25:32,940 --> 01:25:36,750 renowned institution of higher education medicine. Its name is 1387 01:25:36,750 --> 01:25:39,840 synonymous with Baltimore, where it serves as the largest private 1388 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,470 employer, its technological and medical breakthroughs routinely 1389 01:25:43,470 --> 01:25:47,010 make the news. But recently, Hopkins has grabbed headlines 1390 01:25:47,010 --> 01:25:49,860 for a different reason. It's found itself the target of 1391 01:25:49,860 --> 01:25:53,460 protests by community members, students and its own workers who 1392 01:25:53,460 --> 01:25:57,030 say it's harming the very people it's supposed to serve. They 1393 01:25:57,030 --> 01:26:00,780 point to Hopkins own legacy in a city that remains haunted by 1394 01:26:00,780 --> 01:26:04,530 inequality, racism and segregation. Or joining us in 1395 01:26:04,530 --> 01:26:08,250 our studio today is a leading expert on these topics. On to 1396 01:26:08,250 --> 01:26:10,560 row p atella. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank 1397 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:11,400 you for inviting me. 1398 01:26:11,790 --> 01:26:16,200 So let's start with who Johns Hopkins was and why he decided 1399 01:26:16,440 --> 01:26:21,840 to, you know, fund hospital and a university, which at the time 1400 01:26:21,870 --> 01:26:25,980 was his idea at the time this was in the 19th century, was to 1401 01:26:25,980 --> 01:26:29,490 make create institutions that would serve everybody, including 1402 01:26:29,490 --> 01:26:33,000 African Americans. And, you know, so talk about who he was 1403 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,320 and why he decided to do that. 1404 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,860 Well, Johns Hopkins was a direct descendant of William the 1405 01:26:37,860 --> 01:26:41,850 Conqueror, the New York from Normandy, who overran England in 1406 01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:48,240 1066. And so his folks they came from Wales in England, and there 1407 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:52,410 were two brothers who went to Rhode Island and four other 1408 01:26:52,410 --> 01:26:55,500 brothers they came to the Baltimore area and took them 1409 01:26:55,500 --> 01:26:59,880 then ended up in today's craft and Randall County, where they 1410 01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:04,920 received several 100 acres of tobacco land from the King of 1411 01:27:04,980 --> 01:27:10,320 England so he was he was notable person to begin with came from 1412 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:11,430 loadable family 1413 01:27:12,810 --> 01:27:17,130 white privilege just so happens he had bloodlines back the 1414 01:27:17,669 --> 01:27:22,679 Conqueror What do you know what do you know? You know, 1415 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,410 so just for people that don't know who William the Conqueror 1416 01:27:25,410 --> 01:27:27,900 he is, Are you familiar with him Dad, I don't know my 1417 01:27:27,900 --> 01:27:31,230 I am actually because of my European schooling. So be 1418 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,280 very wary. That's why I want you to I'm gonna lean on you on this 1419 01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:39,090 one. But let's get everybody caught up with who the William 1420 01:27:39,090 --> 01:27:39,930 the Conqueror is. 1421 01:27:41,460 --> 01:27:45,750 William of Normandy, known as the Conqueror, arrived on the 1422 01:27:45,750 --> 01:27:51,630 channel coast from France in 1066. It has become the one date 1423 01:27:51,630 --> 01:27:56,460 every English school child knows. As a contemporary writer 1424 01:27:56,460 --> 01:28:02,160 noted, in this year came William out of Normandy, King Harold 1425 01:28:02,190 --> 01:28:06,840 came to oppose him and fought most resolutely, and there was 1426 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:12,570 great slaughter on both sides. The Battle of Hastings was 1427 01:28:12,570 --> 01:28:16,440 fought here at a town named battle on the south coast of 1428 01:28:16,440 --> 01:28:21,210 England. herald the Saxon King was slain with an arrow through 1429 01:28:21,210 --> 01:28:25,350 his eye on this ridge, where William later built an abbey to 1430 01:28:25,350 --> 01:28:26,700 celebrate his victory. 1431 01:28:31,740 --> 01:28:36,180 England was overcome by force of arms for the last time, and the 1432 01:28:36,180 --> 01:28:40,560 country had new rulers with very new ideas of how to keep their 1433 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:46,860 subjects in order. William's first act on landing and 1434 01:28:46,860 --> 01:28:51,030 pevensey was to erect a wooden fort within the old Roman walls 1435 01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:56,580 standing on the site of the present castle. He quickly 1436 01:28:56,580 --> 01:29:00,030 followed it with one of the best known buildings in the world. 1437 01:29:01,950 --> 01:29:07,680 The Tower of London standing on the banks of the Thames nothing 1438 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:12,330 like it had been seen before the white tower built with stone 1439 01:29:12,330 --> 01:29:16,890 brought from Normandy dominated the early London skyline and the 1440 01:29:16,890 --> 01:29:22,170 minds of those that saw it This was a potent symbol of the new 1441 01:29:22,170 --> 01:29:25,740 order in short, it was a castle 1442 01:29:27,660 --> 01:29:30,060 j h really comes from good stock huh 1443 01:29:31,980 --> 01:29:35,490 I mean, they would wreck the huge buildings you know that 1444 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,810 dominate the people's it's the same thing with the john Johns 1445 01:29:39,810 --> 01:29:42,090 Hopkins Hospital now in the middle of these poor Baltimore 1446 01:29:42,090 --> 01:29:45,750 neighborhoods right? You have this huge building Am I reaching 1447 01:29:45,750 --> 01:29:47,490 my Space Jam reaching here just let me know. I 1448 01:29:47,490 --> 01:29:51,060 mean, no you are and the reason why I know a little bit about 1449 01:29:51,060 --> 01:29:55,590 this is because I still have my stamp book. Although my although 1450 01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:59,550 I think I sold my my penny black which was probably worth some 1451 01:29:59,550 --> 01:30:03,660 good money. Now, I collected British stamps as 14 year old. 1452 01:30:03,810 --> 01:30:08,280 And I have a first edition. You know, like, what do you call 1453 01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,820 that, like, the first day it's a comes out, I forgot even what 1454 01:30:11,820 --> 01:30:15,690 the name is. And you get a little block and it was the 1455 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,270 Battle of Hastings, it had all the whole story of the Battle of 1456 01:30:18,270 --> 01:30:23,820 Hastings all as one stamp block. And so that that rings true. 1457 01:30:24,810 --> 01:30:27,480 This story is true, I have the stamps to prove it, I got 1458 01:30:27,480 --> 01:30:31,410 received to bring in a new order. It's a great way, of 1459 01:30:31,410 --> 01:30:33,450 course, to bring in the new order. You kidding me? 1460 01:30:33,630 --> 01:30:39,210 I don't make this stuff up. So let's get back to John's 1461 01:30:39,210 --> 01:30:39,840 decocker. 1462 01:30:40,020 --> 01:30:43,380 But segregation soon followed because Baltimore was in the 1463 01:30:43,380 --> 01:30:49,020 midst of a major racial change in 1899 was the turning point. 1464 01:30:49,230 --> 01:30:52,860 for him. The Democrats came back to power in Baltimore under the 1465 01:30:52,860 --> 01:30:57,450 slogan, this is a white man city. So all this was reflected 1466 01:30:57,450 --> 01:31:01,860 in the admission policies or the hospital of which continued to 1467 01:31:03,150 --> 01:31:07,830 create black patients. But But now in a separate wards. 1468 01:31:08,190 --> 01:31:11,910 In your book, you do an incredible job of detailing how 1469 01:31:11,940 --> 01:31:15,300 the leadership of Hopkins this elite group of people that 1470 01:31:15,300 --> 01:31:20,850 controlled Hopkins also played critical roles in Baltimore 1471 01:31:20,850 --> 01:31:25,830 City, and its leadership as well. Talk about how Hopkins Are 1472 01:31:25,830 --> 01:31:28,830 you talking about how is bankrupt at one time how it grew 1473 01:31:28,860 --> 01:31:31,800 in prominence, and who some of these key figures were in 1474 01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:34,530 shaping its its history and its rise? 1475 01:31:34,980 --> 01:31:40,770 Well, the first both the university and the hospital, 1476 01:31:40,770 --> 01:31:45,210 they were governed by separate boards with lots of overlap. And 1477 01:31:45,210 --> 01:31:49,020 the initial board members were nominated by Hopkins himself. 1478 01:31:49,350 --> 01:31:53,280 And then afterwards, the connection to Hopkins and his 1479 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:57,960 thinking disappeared. And so what we have particularly there 1480 01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:02,250 are two interesting developments in the history of the Hopkins 1481 01:32:02,250 --> 01:32:07,560 county complex and one of them is that that Hopkins precedent 1482 01:32:07,590 --> 01:32:12,120 and handle the university's trustees, they played a major 1483 01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:16,740 role in this in fostering residential segregation in 1484 01:32:16,740 --> 01:32:17,430 Baltimore. 1485 01:32:19,260 --> 01:32:21,960 One day, one day, we're all going to wake up and we're going 1486 01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:23,910 to realize who the real racists are. 1487 01:32:24,390 --> 01:32:28,770 Democrats take over poor segregation, experimentation on 1488 01:32:29,100 --> 01:32:33,420 on black people. Now I got to give John's a little mishap. We 1489 01:32:33,420 --> 01:32:38,010 always humanize here. They just kind of hijacked his name now, 1490 01:32:38,100 --> 01:32:41,580 right? It's not right for us, of course, and but it's the 1491 01:32:41,610 --> 01:32:48,540 mentality of superiority. Or and that you're poor, you need 1492 01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:53,100 medical help. Your body is the only commodity you have. That's 1493 01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:56,550 why, you know, I'll give you help now on the short term, if 1494 01:32:56,550 --> 01:32:59,340 you let me just have a piece of you know, saying down the line, 1495 01:32:59,790 --> 01:33:00,990 and and that's, 1496 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:05,220 it's an old story, man, it's an old story in many different 1497 01:33:05,220 --> 01:33:06,030 versions. 1498 01:33:06,900 --> 01:33:11,160 And a people wonder why there's district trust me when people 1499 01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:14,520 went into those hospitals? I can't know this being from a 1500 01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,310 small town in North Carolina. It's like when you go in you 1501 01:33:17,310 --> 01:33:21,960 don't come out, right. I mean, that's just in this is, it's, 1502 01:33:22,140 --> 01:33:28,290 it's fascinating to hear people lose trust in the medical system 1503 01:33:28,290 --> 01:33:29,190 in the way that it does. 1504 01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:33,450 Okay, so you're telling You're giving me new information? I 1505 01:33:33,450 --> 01:33:36,510 mean, this is this is new from our conversation, this 1506 01:33:37,980 --> 01:33:43,230 experimentation. I mean, this is this. This is mind blowing. I 1507 01:33:43,230 --> 01:33:45,630 thought I knew pretty much everything about every kind of 1508 01:33:45,630 --> 01:33:49,440 story, particularly if something of this magnitude but this they 1509 01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:53,370 kept this from my from, from my view, this is unbelievable. 1510 01:33:53,849 --> 01:33:57,029 Yeah. And it's not like they people would know what happened 1511 01:33:57,029 --> 01:34:00,179 to them. Like all they took this out. No, but he's no, you 1512 01:34:00,179 --> 01:34:03,299 weren't yourself when you can't. I mean, like, you only go to the 1513 01:34:03,299 --> 01:34:10,379 hospital if you have to testify. Like, well, I'm Wham odds here. 1514 01:34:10,379 --> 01:34:15,599 And if I gotta go, that kind of thing. It's not like you knew 1515 01:34:15,599 --> 01:34:18,509 that they did something to you, but that that distrust is built 1516 01:34:18,509 --> 01:34:22,829 in. So I think we stopped at 24 I guess we can get into 25. 1517 01:34:23,459 --> 01:34:27,599 Hopkins is an interesting story in the sense that what I do in 1518 01:34:27,599 --> 01:34:34,499 my book, I go through the ethnic rotations in those 1519 01:34:34,499 --> 01:34:40,049 neighborhoods, and the pattern was the area around Hopkins 1520 01:34:40,049 --> 01:34:45,899 initially was largely German, then then it became Irish, then 1521 01:34:45,899 --> 01:34:50,519 it became largely Jewish. And then African Americans, for 1522 01:34:50,519 --> 01:34:55,469 various reasons began moving to that area. Now now, today, there 1523 01:34:55,469 --> 01:35:01,769 is lots of controversy about Hopkins. And it's remaking Oh, 1524 01:35:01,769 --> 01:35:05,129 that neighborhood which is seen as gentrification, this is his 1525 01:35:05,129 --> 01:35:09,419 fault. This is a nice Baltimore. And my point in the book is that 1526 01:35:09,449 --> 01:35:15,419 gentrification really in terms of Hopkins is largely a misnomer 1527 01:35:15,449 --> 01:35:19,349 because those neighborhoods before the urban changes and 1528 01:35:19,349 --> 01:35:23,339 racial changes raised the hospital area, those those 1529 01:35:23,969 --> 01:35:29,459 neighborhoods favor not for by any means. So what I see 1530 01:35:29,489 --> 01:35:33,389 happening in East Baltimore today instead of gentrification 1531 01:35:33,389 --> 01:35:37,709 really is read gentrification, trying to recreate neighborhoods 1532 01:35:37,949 --> 01:35:44,549 that are financially solvent and can sustain various neighborhood 1533 01:35:44,549 --> 01:35:46,769 activities and keep it in good shape. 1534 01:35:47,190 --> 01:35:50,700 And you in your book, you write that in 1970, the Hopkins 1535 01:35:50,730 --> 01:35:53,940 hospital's Director of Planning wrote, quote, a hostile black 1536 01:35:53,940 --> 01:35:57,870 community constantly reminded of past expansion limits future 1537 01:35:57,870 --> 01:36:00,330 enlargement of the site, the characteristics of the 1538 01:36:00,330 --> 01:36:03,750 neighborhood, make the area uncongenial for employees, 1539 01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:05,250 staffs and students. 1540 01:36:06,900 --> 01:36:13,620 Hold on a second. So now do they they have a hand in this to 1541 01:36:13,620 --> 01:36:16,350 expand. I mean, obviously, we know what the ultimate 1542 01:36:16,350 --> 01:36:20,370 goal was. But what what happens is they want to expand and they 1543 01:36:20,370 --> 01:36:22,350 just need to make the neighborhood crap so they can 1544 01:36:22,350 --> 01:36:25,980 tear it down. Correct. And that's what we're seeing what I 1545 01:36:25,980 --> 01:36:29,790 believe we're seeing everywhere now everywhere, East Austin 1546 01:36:29,820 --> 01:36:34,860 everywhere. But you see these memes of videos. Hello, the 1547 01:36:34,860 --> 01:36:42,240 wire, right? So you see this is a meme is going around now of a 1548 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:46,500 street in Philadelphia. Where like a guy's kind of riding in 1549 01:36:46,500 --> 01:36:49,950 the car and has like the fixed camera. He's catching on like 1550 01:36:49,950 --> 01:36:52,740 these zombie like, Yeah, sure. Of course. Yeah. Drug addicts. 1551 01:36:52,770 --> 01:36:59,520 Yep. This is how they justify mass incarceration. See, this is 1552 01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:04,620 plan. What's the word? obsolescence of people? Oh, 1553 01:37:04,620 --> 01:37:09,000 people. You take out the series people series people move into 1554 01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:12,450 you know, by people from California going to Austin or 1555 01:37:12,450 --> 01:37:15,600 New York going to Florida all these things. All you leave now 1556 01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,750 is a crime ridden cities. That's like what somebody's got to come 1557 01:37:18,750 --> 01:37:21,150 in and clean it up. Right? I mean, that's I mean, it's the 1558 01:37:21,150 --> 01:37:24,960 only right thing to do welcome Larry elder, right you drive 1559 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,450 down the property value with all the drug addicts the drugs the 1560 01:37:27,450 --> 01:37:32,400 Fenton on the carpet and on everything else. And guess what? 1561 01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:36,600 Now you come in bought up pennies on the dollar with this 1562 01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:37,170 addict. 1563 01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,800 You know what, here's pisses me off. This is the, this is what 1564 01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:44,460 we initially connected on when I was talking about. I know a gym. 1565 01:37:44,460 --> 01:37:46,860 That was awesome. Yeah, but nipsey hussle. And I had kind of 1566 01:37:46,860 --> 01:37:50,220 seen this happen. And then, you know, after I seen the wire, by 1567 01:37:50,220 --> 01:37:54,570 the way, God bless Omar, they got Omar. Yeah, that sucks. 1568 01:37:56,940 --> 01:38:01,140 It's, you know, going back to JC going back to, you know, the 1569 01:38:01,170 --> 01:38:05,070 Brooklyn Stadium, and it's all the same story. 1570 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,030 We saw the same thing in New York. Same thing, and I think I 1571 01:38:09,030 --> 01:38:11,310 think we're seeing I think we're seeing it in Austin, you know, 1572 01:38:11,340 --> 01:38:16,260 East Austin. Is is, is we had we had to leave. Now it's not it 1573 01:38:16,260 --> 01:38:21,000 wasn't that horrible, but it was really just around the corner. 1574 01:38:21,450 --> 01:38:25,440 You know, as you can read the tea leaves like I did. Yeah, I 1575 01:38:25,440 --> 01:38:28,620 did that history is Yeah, these people getting cars getting 1576 01:38:28,620 --> 01:38:31,800 broken to every night down the street, it made me time to move 1577 01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:32,790 before they move up the block. 1578 01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:37,620 Break name does a killing every night. We've had 60 in Austin 1579 01:38:37,620 --> 01:38:38,970 this year, all time record. 1580 01:38:39,629 --> 01:38:44,639 But that's allowed to happen. Yes, on the property value come 1581 01:38:44,639 --> 01:38:47,339 when you come to buy it. And this is what happened in Hopkins 1582 01:38:47,339 --> 01:38:51,299 with the wire and everything else. But just don't believe me 1583 01:38:51,299 --> 01:38:53,789 and you. Let's listen to clip number four. 1584 01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:57,330 And that takes me to my next question. The relationship 1585 01:38:57,330 --> 01:39:01,110 between Hopkins and the local black residents in East 1586 01:39:01,110 --> 01:39:05,400 Baltimore. You know, you talk about and the relationship of 1587 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:10,200 medical institutions in general. You talk about from doctors to 1588 01:39:10,470 --> 01:39:13,950 Robin graves. You have a section in your book about that, which 1589 01:39:13,950 --> 01:39:18,150 is really fascinating. You talk about how Hopkins was known as 1590 01:39:18,150 --> 01:39:23,400 the plantation. And you know, there's also people like 1591 01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:27,750 Henrietta Lacks who, whose genetic material was harvested 1592 01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:29,940 by Hopkins without her consent as well. 1593 01:39:30,509 --> 01:39:36,119 That that's true. And so one one of the Hopkins presidents once 1594 01:39:36,119 --> 01:39:41,069 said that Hopkins is a is not a good neighbor. And all this has 1595 01:39:41,069 --> 01:39:45,599 come to play in East Baltimore where people remember the days 1596 01:39:45,629 --> 01:39:51,569 when 1200 homes or 1200 black people were demolished in order 1597 01:39:51,569 --> 01:39:57,539 for Hopkins to construct a dormitory housing 205 years is 1598 01:39:57,539 --> 01:40:02,759 and doctors. So there is lots On a distrust towards the Hopkins, 1599 01:40:02,999 --> 01:40:07,319 and in the recent controversies that we saw and talk about all 1600 01:40:07,319 --> 01:40:10,889 this has come to play everything that Hopkins has done in the 1601 01:40:10,889 --> 01:40:15,389 past all its crimes have have been mentioned to Henrietta 1602 01:40:15,389 --> 01:40:19,889 Lacks experiments with lead paint all kinds of other stuff. 1603 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:26,880 On the towers, yeah. If you're listening on a podcasting 2.0 1604 01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:30,810 compatible app, you know what to do? You got to boost that. 1605 01:40:32,340 --> 01:40:35,400 towers, just like in the wire? Yes, 1606 01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:37,290 it's exactly the same. 1607 01:40:38,820 --> 01:40:41,280 And the reason why I know this relationship, because this is a 1608 01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:45,630 strange relationship, because he started out saying that Hopkins 1609 01:40:45,630 --> 01:40:49,110 is the number one employer I think, in Baltimore, maybe in 1610 01:40:49,110 --> 01:40:52,800 Maryland, I can't recall, but I'll just say Baltimore, the 1611 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:56,310 reason why I know this is I'm from Derm. Duke is the same way, 1612 01:40:56,340 --> 01:41:01,170 right? So it's like, you know, these things happen like we do 1613 01:41:01,230 --> 01:41:04,920 in the hospital and these kind of things. But at the same time, 1614 01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:10,620 they a lot of people eat from them literally, like, nurses 1615 01:41:10,650 --> 01:41:14,550 keeping these I'm saying these, these types of jobs. So it's 1616 01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:17,220 this weird relationship that it has with the with the 1617 01:41:17,220 --> 01:41:21,870 neighborhood or no, and the people that live in them. 1618 01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:30,120 Yeah, keep on going. I got nothing to know. This is great. 1619 01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,870 This is this is like the best. It's like finding in the gym on 1620 01:41:33,870 --> 01:41:36,780 Netflix. You know, it's like, holy crap. I know. It's like, 1621 01:41:36,990 --> 01:41:40,260 when I watched that that damn octopus documentary with the guy 1622 01:41:40,260 --> 01:41:42,750 living with an octopus for a year. That's how good this is, 1623 01:41:43,020 --> 01:41:44,430 like octopus level. Good. 1624 01:41:45,390 --> 01:41:50,010 So now caution, people costume. Oh, boy. Morning, we have one. 1625 01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:55,290 We're about to get some pure Anca AJ here. This is Alex 1626 01:41:55,290 --> 01:41:58,680 Jones. And I'm gonna play the full clip that I took the 1627 01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,260 snippet from concerning Henrietta Lacks. 1628 01:42:01,590 --> 01:42:05,700 And I found the former Pfizer employee who heads up the 1629 01:42:05,700 --> 01:42:09,300 project for the main level four bioweapons lab in London, 1630 01:42:09,300 --> 01:42:14,760 England, that we'll be telling you about. And I watched seven 1631 01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:18,390 or eight of his videos, and then read scanned over dozens of his 1632 01:42:18,390 --> 01:42:22,110 papers. And by the time I was done, my job was on the ground. 1633 01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:29,370 And it went right back to Henrietta Lacks, that we told 1634 01:42:29,370 --> 01:42:33,810 you about this black woman that got eaten alive by cancer in one 1635 01:42:33,810 --> 01:42:39,420 week. And they cut her uterus out, stole it. And it's the 1636 01:42:39,420 --> 01:42:43,590 basis of all human cloning everything today, the cells 1637 01:42:43,590 --> 01:42:46,320 won't die. They have factories all over the world that just 1638 01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:50,310 create her cells. And I've already knew all this, but my 1639 01:42:50,310 --> 01:42:57,150 God, I didn't know they cloned her. In 1966, they spliced her 1640 01:42:57,150 --> 01:43:03,660 with mice in 1966. I mean, we I mean, folks, you've seen the 1641 01:43:03,660 --> 01:43:06,570 thing where like jumps on things and eat some that's that's what 1642 01:43:06,570 --> 01:43:09,780 ater and they even say they don't believe it's human doesn't 1643 01:43:09,780 --> 01:43:12,750 have our genome doesn't have our chromosomes. And they call it 1644 01:43:12,750 --> 01:43:15,690 another species and debate whether what was in our uterus 1645 01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:20,490 is an alien. I'm gonna show you Wikipedia, and then I'm gonna 1646 01:43:20,490 --> 01:43:24,690 show you the actual documents. Now. This little seller right 1647 01:43:24,690 --> 01:43:27,510 here, because let me tell you, I'm not gonna pretend to know 1648 01:43:27,510 --> 01:43:30,240 exactly what they're doing. But let's just say this. It's world 1649 01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,960 in in baby. They're putting Henrietta Lacks cells 1650 01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:41,910 in you. Love Alex. He always gives you something to think 1651 01:43:41,910 --> 01:43:45,720 about. And, man, he's, he's been pretty damn close. And a lot of 1652 01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:46,440 things. 1653 01:43:46,620 --> 01:43:51,360 Was it I need to I got questions. Alien night. 1654 01:43:51,630 --> 01:43:58,860 Seriously, Mike. They're not telling us something here. These 1655 01:43:58,860 --> 01:44:04,410 jeans these, Miss, give me these sales. G's grow like nobody's 1656 01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,410 not know I'm being tongue in cheek when I say elite. But what 1657 01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:11,190 is it? Because that makes me ask What are you putting in me or 1658 01:44:11,190 --> 01:44:14,100 trying to put in in me? You know, these are real. I mean, 1659 01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:17,580 I'd say this. Like I said, we use gallows humor here. But it's 1660 01:44:17,580 --> 01:44:22,110 based on a real question of if you have such a great product, 1661 01:44:22,110 --> 01:44:23,250 tell me what it is. 1662 01:44:23,430 --> 01:44:30,450 Well, now, let's just be clear, I'm not 100% sure that her cells 1663 01:44:30,450 --> 01:44:35,400 are being put into any vaccine. Her cells are being used to 1664 01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:39,030 develop a vaccine. I could be wrong. 1665 01:44:39,030 --> 01:44:41,940 I don't know. Now, what I'm saying is we were talking just 1666 01:44:41,940 --> 01:44:46,920 in generalities here of because nobody knows. If somebody knows 1667 01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:50,640 something when I mean, even if some a doctor sat down explained 1668 01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:55,380 it to me. I still wouldn't know. You know, Sam, but the narrative 1669 01:44:55,410 --> 01:44:59,970 is Why are you hiding this lady from us? Which she's Oh, um, 1670 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,600 American hero. I mean, if you tell her story, but it's like, 1671 01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:05,370 No, you don't want to tell her story, because then you have to 1672 01:45:05,370 --> 01:45:09,450 tell the whole story. So it's like, oh, well, you know, they 1673 01:45:09,450 --> 01:45:12,510 play this weird game of like, She's so great, but we can't 1674 01:45:12,510 --> 01:45:13,170 talk about her 1675 01:45:13,230 --> 01:45:19,020 because of Well, okay, so what your what your your hypothesis 1676 01:45:19,020 --> 01:45:23,130 here is that the well, we can't really talk about our because 1677 01:45:23,130 --> 01:45:28,200 john, this is a controversial that that's kind of covering up 1678 01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:29,910 something even more sinister. 1679 01:45:30,630 --> 01:45:34,380 It creates more questions than it for sure does, for sure it 1680 01:45:34,380 --> 01:45:38,850 does. And when questions come in doubt come in. And when doubts 1681 01:45:38,850 --> 01:45:41,760 come in, I'm more reluctant not to go along with 1682 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,150 it. What's interesting is, is this the same story Tina was 1683 01:45:45,150 --> 01:45:47,490 telling telling me about and she just read a headline. 1684 01:45:47,820 --> 01:45:49,950 And I don't know, I mean, I'm curious. I mean, because I 1685 01:45:49,950 --> 01:45:52,530 haven't seen her name anywhere. 1686 01:45:53,250 --> 01:45:57,090 No, Tina said Oh, did you hear about the woman who, who got 1687 01:45:57,090 --> 01:46:00,540 cancer? and seven days later, she was dead? And I said, No, 1688 01:46:00,540 --> 01:46:03,990 that's horrible. And, and she said that and I said, Well, what 1689 01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:07,080 about now I just I've been reading it she she admits right 1690 01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:10,830 away. I didn't really read it. But I think this this story must 1691 01:46:10,830 --> 01:46:14,880 be maybe because of Alex. This is a recent alex jones episode. 1692 01:46:15,570 --> 01:46:20,070 Yes. So that's why it's probably out there. So what's floating 1693 01:46:20,070 --> 01:46:23,880 around if it's reaching us, it's floating. But Tina's deep, man, 1694 01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:27,390 she's she's she's the keeper goes deep and wide. So I don't 1695 01:46:27,390 --> 01:46:29,370 know. I don't know where she's picked that up. 1696 01:46:29,970 --> 01:46:36,090 Shout out to the keeper. Yeah. But as he said it, like I said, 1697 01:46:36,090 --> 01:46:42,480 I'm taking his when you say stuff like that, like she had an 1698 01:46:42,510 --> 01:46:48,540 alien her uterus, it makes it like very dismissible. But I 1699 01:46:48,540 --> 01:46:51,420 understand why he does that because it makes headlines, and 1700 01:46:51,420 --> 01:46:54,630 it gets the word out there. If you sit down with a PowerPoint 1701 01:46:54,630 --> 01:46:57,630 and boring and like peep, you bore people to death. So it's 1702 01:46:57,630 --> 01:47:02,280 like, let me look this up is alien or uterus kind of thing. 1703 01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:03,240 But this is 1704 01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:06,720 not. This is not foreign to Alex. I mean, I this he's been 1705 01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:07,530 saying this, 1706 01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:12,360 my god for 25 years, they've been growing babies and cows. 1707 01:47:13,259 --> 01:47:16,199 So he's, he's been kind of on tracking that, you know? 1708 01:47:16,740 --> 01:47:21,330 Right. So he did say that they're growing factories is 1709 01:47:21,330 --> 01:47:25,800 growing her sales all around the world, I believe. Let's go over 1710 01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,380 to Dr. Oz and real healer sales. 1711 01:47:28,860 --> 01:47:35,070 And go ahead. Really hard. That's her. There are millions 1712 01:47:35,130 --> 01:47:36,600 of Henrietta's cells in there. 1713 01:47:38,790 --> 01:47:46,350 Wow. Like in the movie when she has it she goes she's cold. This 1714 01:47:46,350 --> 01:47:49,710 is warm This is so these are the real cells just through the week 1715 01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:54,660 for me they're not even have the real selfish movie is fantastic. 1716 01:47:57,480 --> 01:48:00,330 Medical cars goodies for us Come over here. I actually put them 1717 01:48:00,330 --> 01:48:02,790 under the microscope. I want you to see them with your own eyes 1718 01:48:02,790 --> 01:48:05,130 rose. Go ahead, take a loss. Don't poke your eyes out. 1719 01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:06,900 Look close. This is just like in the movie. 1720 01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:12,090 Journalist scientists now doesn't she? Wow. And we're 1721 01:48:12,090 --> 01:48:14,880 gonna put them up in a big monitor. This is just like in 1722 01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:18,150 the room I know in the grave. So you guys go ahead and look. And 1723 01:48:18,150 --> 01:48:20,250 when those don't open, take a look at everybody else. This is 1724 01:48:20,250 --> 01:48:23,610 what Oprah seeing back here. She's seeing all the cells and 1725 01:48:23,610 --> 01:48:25,950 he said Little Black dotted ones. The little black dots are 1726 01:48:25,950 --> 01:48:29,040 the nucleus. That's that's that's actually her DNA. And 1727 01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:33,750 that is fascinating. And the gray stuff is the cells. So that 1728 01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:34,830 is so cool. 1729 01:48:39,540 --> 01:48:47,340 Home we're looking at this sales. Have you seen them? Many 1730 01:48:47,340 --> 01:48:54,330 times? Like let's have a little bit here. Okay. I have never 1731 01:48:54,330 --> 01:48:57,750 held the actual cells in my hand. They're yours. Wow. Don't 1732 01:48:57,750 --> 01:48:58,170 drop them. 1733 01:49:00,030 --> 01:49:04,950 You know, you get a healer, a healer and everybody in the 1734 01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:09,090 crowd. Take some healer home bike seriously. you're pedaling 1735 01:49:09,090 --> 01:49:13,170 human remains. I mean, I hate to say it. I know I'm being 1736 01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,770 hyperbolic here. But what I'm just saying is for Oprah to be 1737 01:49:16,770 --> 01:49:22,440 on television. And we say about women you know, whatever about 1738 01:49:22,590 --> 01:49:25,200 you know, people's bodies and their rights and whatever. 1739 01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:30,120 angiology is Pelin Henrietta Lacks around like, I'll take 1740 01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,490 them home with you. They're always fresh groom like 1741 01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:37,800 tomatoes. Fresh from the farm to the table. But what I thought 1742 01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:46,350 that's the most disgusting clip out of all I've got so far. your 1743 01:49:46,350 --> 01:49:47,940 fridge frustrates me for years 1744 01:49:47,940 --> 01:49:50,520 I've been talking about the eugenicist, actually want to 1745 01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:54,870 make superhumans you gotta wonder, you gotta wonder, you 1746 01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:59,460 know is Henrietta Lacks will that maybe that can make people 1747 01:49:59,460 --> 01:50:00,600 cell free. Generate 1748 01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:04,110 I don't I don't Who the heck knows 1749 01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:08,520 who the heck knows. But Wow, yeah. 1750 01:50:09,060 --> 01:50:12,090 And this again put it put it on the board we're watching. 1751 01:50:12,270 --> 01:50:15,240 Yes, we're watching. This is fascinating. I can't I can't 1752 01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,970 watch anything else now I'm going to be scouring the webs. 1753 01:50:18,420 --> 01:50:21,090 We got to find more about this what's happening right now this 1754 01:50:21,090 --> 01:50:21,840 is good. 1755 01:50:22,620 --> 01:50:27,840 Well, what we don't do is peddling. He loves sales. So we 1756 01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:30,690 got to thank producers, yes, this is, this would be a good 1757 01:50:30,690 --> 01:50:31,350 time to do it. 1758 01:50:31,770 --> 01:50:35,130 Right man in the black man have to be able to sit down at the 1759 01:50:35,130 --> 01:50:38,400 same table for white men has to feel free to speak his mind 1760 01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,190 without hurting the feelings are both Negro. And the so called 1761 01:50:41,190 --> 01:50:44,190 Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the 1762 01:50:44,190 --> 01:50:47,010 feelings of the right man, then they can bring the issues that 1763 01:50:47,010 --> 01:50:49,350 are under the rug are on top of the table and take an 1764 01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:51,870 intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only 1765 01:50:51,870 --> 01:50:53,100 way that they'll ever do it. 1766 01:50:53,490 --> 01:50:56,130 Yeah, and that's exactly what we're doing here at mo facts 1767 01:50:56,130 --> 01:51:00,000 with Adam Curry and we are back on our schedule and glad to see 1768 01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,810 that people are supporting the show we've got the the producers 1769 01:51:03,810 --> 01:51:07,830 out in full force. This is value for value is the only way this 1770 01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:12,450 will ever work. None of this is gonna be a very dangerous show 1771 01:51:12,450 --> 01:51:16,350 to have advertiser we be without advertisers one way or the 1772 01:51:16,350 --> 01:51:21,330 other. Because the first block a block and you're done and you're 1773 01:51:21,330 --> 01:51:24,510 done. That's right. Oh, yes. Like those guys, right? Yeah, 1774 01:51:24,510 --> 01:51:26,910 okay, I'm just getting a little call, make sure they understand 1775 01:51:26,910 --> 01:51:30,630 what's going on. So to to make sure we are immune from the 1776 01:51:30,630 --> 01:51:33,840 Boulay phone, we do value for value. And you can support us 1777 01:51:34,020 --> 01:51:37,800 through PayPal and cash app and a number of ways if you go to mo 1778 01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:40,440 fund me.com. And of course you always want to take a look at 1779 01:51:40,440 --> 01:51:44,520 more facts calm. Everything's out on there. And if you're 1780 01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:48,090 using a podcasting 2.0 compatible app, you can boost us 1781 01:51:48,420 --> 01:51:52,020 and I think we now have the booster Grahams hooked up so you 1782 01:51:52,020 --> 01:51:55,680 can also send a message along with that. And to find an app 1783 01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:59,220 for that go to new podcast apps calm but for now we're going to 1784 01:51:59,220 --> 01:52:02,880 kick it off with our executive producers for episode number 66. 1785 01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:06,450 We start right off with Sean Carla 20 1786 01:52:06,450 --> 01:52:08,730 is blades on the Impala 1787 01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:13,530 $280 from Emily Andrews, the big baller for today's show. She 1788 01:52:13,530 --> 01:52:16,800 write quite a no but it's a nice one that I'm happy to share with 1789 01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:20,490 everybody. Moe and Adam, thank you so much for the work the 1790 01:52:20,490 --> 01:52:22,800 past two years. Sorry for the long note, but I feel like the 1791 01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:24,840 background to help you understand where I'm coming from 1792 01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,930 and the impact your conversations has had on me. I 1793 01:52:27,930 --> 01:52:31,350 believe your podcast single handedly save me from mental 1794 01:52:31,350 --> 01:52:36,570 side. Which anything with the word side in it and we're saving 1795 01:52:36,570 --> 01:52:38,940 you from it. I'm happy to say that 1796 01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:42,840 I've seen this term cropping up. So we need to keep on we need to 1797 01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:43,470 put them Yes. 1798 01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:47,610 In fact, I think I discussed it on no agenda a few a few weeks 1799 01:52:47,610 --> 01:52:50,880 back men decide indeed. She continues. I'm a white woman who 1800 01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:53,790 grew up in a suburb of the Dallas, Texas area. I can 1801 01:52:53,790 --> 01:52:56,040 honestly say the growing up race really wasn't something I 1802 01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:58,860 noticed. But it wasn't because I didn't learn history. I learned 1803 01:52:58,860 --> 01:53:01,380 about slavery. Starting in the first grade, I learned about Jim 1804 01:53:01,380 --> 01:53:03,750 Crow and the civil rights movement into third grade. I 1805 01:53:03,750 --> 01:53:06,030 lived in a middle class neighborhood with all colors and 1806 01:53:06,030 --> 01:53:08,880 religions races irrelevant in the modern era. And I didn't 1807 01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,550 even associate it with different cultures people were American 1808 01:53:11,670 --> 01:53:15,480 unless they told me otherwise. When I went off to college at 1809 01:53:15,480 --> 01:53:17,850 the University of the University of Texas, I was totally 1810 01:53:17,850 --> 01:53:20,910 blindsided by the idea that racism was still such an issue 1811 01:53:20,910 --> 01:53:25,080 for people. I didn't even know stereotype serotypes like black 1812 01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:28,170 people are criminals, or they like fried chicken or they're 1813 01:53:28,170 --> 01:53:30,930 bad at school because I wasn't in a culture that demonstrated 1814 01:53:30,930 --> 01:53:33,750 that or even mentioned it as a thing. And of course being from 1815 01:53:33,750 --> 01:53:36,300 the south myself fried chicken was a staple food and everyone 1816 01:53:36,300 --> 01:53:39,720 likes fried chicken. Even more baffling to me was the people 1817 01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,510 who would loudly lambasted the fact that these stereotypes 1818 01:53:42,510 --> 01:53:45,510 existed, would turn around and act like they were reality. 1819 01:53:46,470 --> 01:53:49,650 Moving to Seattle, Washington, it was even worse. The people 1820 01:53:49,650 --> 01:53:53,430 complaining about redlining the most would often lament the 1821 01:53:53,430 --> 01:53:55,800 property value reduction when black people moved into their 1822 01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,770 neighborhood. They were talking about how it was just black 1823 01:53:58,770 --> 01:54:02,310 culture, to not want to excel in schools and not to have fathers 1824 01:54:02,310 --> 01:54:05,160 in the house, which I knew wasn't true. From my experience 1825 01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:08,520 in the south. They would complain about gentrification 1826 01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:11,370 and white flight in the same conversation. It was troubling. 1827 01:54:11,370 --> 01:54:14,070 But I finally came to the conclusion that the cities and 1828 01:54:14,070 --> 01:54:16,560 the Northerners were still suffering from racism and 1829 01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:20,250 weren't integrated yet. I wasn't sure why, but what to do other 1830 01:54:20,250 --> 01:54:23,220 than to love the people where they were and help them move to 1831 01:54:23,220 --> 01:54:26,700 less racist ideology. But my heart finally broke when the 1832 01:54:26,700 --> 01:54:29,940 George Floyd race riots broke out. It seemed like all the 1833 01:54:29,940 --> 01:54:33,450 childhood friends I love dearly saw my skin color but for my 1834 01:54:33,450 --> 01:54:36,600 character, people I treated like my sibling suddenly accused me 1835 01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,940 of being a white supremacist because I was scared to have 1836 01:54:38,940 --> 01:54:41,790 people riding outside the hospital while I was there for 1837 01:54:41,790 --> 01:54:45,990 preterm labor with twins at 28 weeks. Seems like the America 1838 01:54:45,990 --> 01:54:48,720 from my childhood was finally dead and my children would never 1839 01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:53,160 experience it. A co worker of mine I love this note, by the 1840 01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:57,000 way, this is like a co worker of mine pointed me to your podcast 1841 01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,310 and honestly, it's been a huge relief to know that my 1842 01:54:59,310 --> 01:55:02,550 observations These people aren't just in my head. I feel like 1843 01:55:02,550 --> 01:55:04,830 this huge weight has been lifted. And I have so much more 1844 01:55:04,830 --> 01:55:07,110 understanding about what's going on with my black brothers and 1845 01:55:07,110 --> 01:55:10,380 sisters. Hearing the clips about Malcolm X in particular has 1846 01:55:10,410 --> 01:55:13,470 opened my eyes about how even what I consider to be a decently 1847 01:55:13,470 --> 01:55:16,350 accurate historical education may have missed frame what was 1848 01:55:16,350 --> 01:55:19,260 going on. It's given me hope that we can someday come 1849 01:55:19,260 --> 01:55:23,340 together as Americans. That a couple of questions first, what 1850 01:55:23,340 --> 01:55:26,370 resources would you recommend to learn more about Malcolm X? I've 1851 01:55:26,370 --> 01:55:28,620 tried to find some of his speeches online, but they really 1852 01:55:28,620 --> 01:55:31,020 aren't accessible. Are there books that would be good for 1853 01:55:31,020 --> 01:55:34,110 someone who wants to at least supplement the education of the 1854 01:55:34,110 --> 01:55:36,780 public school system, if not homeschooled, I was thinking 1855 01:55:36,780 --> 01:55:39,390 about creating some sort of civil rights curriculum that 1856 01:55:39,390 --> 01:55:41,610 integrates your work, but I don't want to steal your pancake 1857 01:55:41,610 --> 01:55:44,670 mix. So let me know if that's cool. If I were to monetize, I 1858 01:55:44,670 --> 01:55:48,420 would like to offer 5050 but I'm sure by i'm not sure i want to 1859 01:55:48,420 --> 01:55:51,120 monetize Jesse yet. Since this would be for social good. 1860 01:55:51,900 --> 01:55:56,940 Mo. On the best resource is YouTube, to be honest with you, 1861 01:55:56,940 --> 01:56:01,860 I mean, knave, people have pieced together all his most of 1862 01:56:01,890 --> 01:56:06,570 the clips that are remaining. And for a book wise, I always 1863 01:56:06,570 --> 01:56:09,480 just stick with the Alex Haley version, even though we know 1864 01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:15,900 Alex Haley was I used to worry like this, but maybe compromise 1865 01:56:15,900 --> 01:56:22,890 in a way to tamper now some of Malcolm's rhetoric. So yeah, 1866 01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:27,300 those are to be my two main sources. Because when you read 1867 01:56:27,300 --> 01:56:30,780 his clip, when you read his quotes, they don't hit the same 1868 01:56:30,780 --> 01:56:31,620 way as when you hear. 1869 01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:38,490 Oh, I totally agree with that. Yeah. It's funny. The middle 1870 01:56:38,490 --> 01:56:43,590 school teacher friend of ours was over. And now she's very 1871 01:56:43,590 --> 01:56:48,420 progressive. And that's cool, because we're friends. But I 1872 01:56:48,420 --> 01:56:52,980 asked her said something about, you know, the queue is all hot 1873 01:56:52,980 --> 01:56:57,120 and bothered about, you know, some some trial balloon that has 1874 01:56:57,120 --> 01:57:01,200 the teachers convinced that this is going to be law against 1875 01:57:01,350 --> 01:57:04,020 teaching critical race theory, and they won't be able to talk 1876 01:57:04,020 --> 01:57:07,290 about Frederick Douglass. I mean, seriously. So this, 1877 01:57:07,290 --> 01:57:10,440 they've been convinced of this. And I say, and I just in talking 1878 01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:12,300 to, I said, How about mock Mexican? What do you think of 1879 01:57:12,300 --> 01:57:16,290 Malcolm X? Ted? Yeah, yeah. Okay, you know, have you ever 1880 01:57:16,290 --> 01:57:20,100 read any Malcolm X or a bit? I liked him a lot better after he 1881 01:57:20,100 --> 01:57:23,760 became Nation of Islam? Because he was so anti American before 1882 01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:24,090 that. 1883 01:57:24,930 --> 01:57:27,840 Now, what she meant was when he left the nation, 1884 01:57:27,870 --> 01:57:33,780 no, I asked her three times Really? Yes. Yes. You liked 1885 01:57:33,780 --> 01:57:36,000 him before? I mean, like, you know who he was. He was not 1886 01:57:36,300 --> 01:57:40,770 Detroit ran before he taught in the nation. So maybe she didn't 1887 01:57:41,670 --> 01:57:42,810 want to come? I don't know. 1888 01:57:43,830 --> 01:57:46,710 Well, I continue. Second, what do you envision a fully healed 1889 01:57:46,710 --> 01:57:49,620 America to look like? Is it like the America of the childhood I 1890 01:57:49,620 --> 01:57:51,750 grew up in? Does it look like something else? 1891 01:57:52,950 --> 01:57:59,250 But from my podcast, where you can talk to people, but you're 1892 01:57:59,250 --> 01:58:02,520 not obligated to talk to people, if you don't want to, I think 1893 01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:07,230 the falseness of it is ruining everything by all that to check 1894 01:58:07,230 --> 01:58:10,830 these boxes, right. I gotta make sure I have the right set 1895 01:58:10,830 --> 01:58:16,440 mixture of friends. And we need you know, this gravitate to 1896 01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:18,600 people that you're comfortable with. I mean, it seemed like 1897 01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:22,950 your neighborhood was that way. And if I guess I just don't know 1898 01:58:22,950 --> 01:58:23,610 if this 1899 01:58:23,670 --> 01:58:26,550 i think i think it's completely the opposite. I think it's a 1900 01:58:26,550 --> 01:58:32,130 complete illusion, that we're so divided. It's all on Twitter. 1901 01:58:32,340 --> 01:58:36,390 It's all on television, that go out to the county fair, you 1902 01:58:36,390 --> 01:58:42,030 know, go to a concert, go to a comedy show even. I mean, yeah, 1903 01:58:42,030 --> 01:58:45,900 not everyone likes every single job. But I think it's, it's, we 1904 01:58:45,900 --> 01:58:49,290 have much more so many more ways of communicating this podcast as 1905 01:58:49,290 --> 01:58:51,540 an example. I think it's actually a lot more in our heads 1906 01:58:51,540 --> 01:58:53,700 than we know. And we're just being told it, you know, it's 1907 01:58:53,700 --> 01:58:54,900 almost like manifesting 1908 01:58:54,900 --> 01:58:57,750 it. Well, that's the thing, people I mean, you use the word 1909 01:58:57,750 --> 01:59:00,300 illusion, and that's another word for magic. Yes. Right. I 1910 01:59:00,300 --> 01:59:04,380 mean, that was your word, not mine. So that people feel the 1911 01:59:04,380 --> 01:59:10,050 spell. Um, so we had to figure out how we night make the spell 1912 01:59:10,050 --> 01:59:13,140 Nolan, boy, and then we'll get back to where we need to be at. 1913 01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:18,240 Third. She asks a lot for a big baller but big ballers a big 1914 01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:21,060 baller. You talk a lot about the gender war. Do you have some 1915 01:59:21,060 --> 01:59:24,390 suggestions for things women could be doing to support good 1916 01:59:24,390 --> 01:59:27,420 men? If you need a white woman millennial for the gender bender 1917 01:59:27,420 --> 01:59:31,440 most of most x? I'm happy to stand in, though perhaps with a 1918 01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:32,100 pseudonym. 1919 01:59:33,540 --> 01:59:37,200 The number one thing women can do is support other women. We're 1920 01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:42,780 fine. We're fine. It's women when they want to speak up for 1921 01:59:42,780 --> 01:59:47,010 what they like and men are the ones that shame so so stick up 1922 01:59:47,010 --> 01:59:47,670 for your sister. 1923 01:59:48,419 --> 01:59:51,029 Also, is there any way we could get most podcasts set up the 1924 01:59:51,029 --> 01:59:53,609 same way podcast 2.0 infrastructures the no agenda 1925 01:59:53,609 --> 01:59:57,329 podcast. I'd love to get some chapters set up of the older 1926 01:59:57,329 --> 02:00:00,239 episodes. We're all for a number. I don't know. How many 1927 02:00:00,239 --> 02:00:05,159 of you at least 10 or 15? have chapters, which Dred Scott does. 1928 02:00:07,229 --> 02:00:11,879 Going back is actually something you can do. Emily, if you get 1929 02:00:11,909 --> 02:00:17,519 the hyper catcher app, it's in the app store and I think it's 1930 02:00:17,519 --> 02:00:24,119 only iPhone. Then you can set the chapters, with images and 1931 02:00:24,119 --> 02:00:28,139 with, with comments as suggestions. So you could do 1932 02:00:28,139 --> 02:00:30,359 that for any older show. You'd want to do that for it. And then 1933 02:00:30,359 --> 02:00:31,979 you can do it while you're listening. So that would be 1934 02:00:31,979 --> 02:00:32,729 really cool. 1935 02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:35,190 Then other people can help as well. 1936 02:00:35,220 --> 02:00:39,210 Anybody can help with that. Actually. Yes. Go find drab at 1937 02:00:39,210 --> 02:00:44,010 podcast, index dot social. And to wind it up here for Emily. 1938 02:00:44,070 --> 02:00:49,920 She has please give me a D dead beating. Congratulations. You're 1939 02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:54,480 no longer dead v. And she'd like some good decision making karma. 1940 02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:57,540 She's considering quitting her job to become a stay at home mom 1941 02:00:57,540 --> 02:01:00,000 with three young boys. 1942 02:01:00,330 --> 02:01:02,250 When she asked her own question what she could do for me. 1943 02:01:03,630 --> 02:01:07,020 There you go. Best thing you can do right there. Here's your 1944 02:01:07,020 --> 02:01:12,870 karma. Thank you very much. You've got your sister in 1945 02:01:12,870 --> 02:01:17,160 Christ. Thank you very much, Emily. Then we have a guest as 1946 02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:18,540 me good. Make good 1947 02:01:19,290 --> 02:01:24,540 for now say this. We did not miss you, john. This is on a 1948 02:01:24,570 --> 02:01:29,190 cash app. You're out. I pulled the spreadsheet every time and 1949 02:01:29,190 --> 02:01:32,130 your donations were not on the last spreadsheet for some odd 1950 02:01:32,130 --> 02:01:34,620 reason. I don't know why. But I mean, like I said, we're still 1951 02:01:34,620 --> 02:01:37,320 gonna bump you up to the top but jack Dorsey hates you, john. 1952 02:01:38,010 --> 02:01:41,850 Yeah, this was an omission on our part. We were very conscious 1953 02:01:41,850 --> 02:01:43,020 of that last show. Right. So 1954 02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:48,330 we got to get there. We got to here we got 65 for Episode 65 1955 02:01:48,330 --> 02:01:54,570 and 66 as he comes in again, for Episode 66 today, so we got you 1956 02:01:54,570 --> 02:01:57,840 there john would really appreciate it. Madeline Riley, 1957 02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:02,010 another executive producer. I love the show. $200 she sent 1958 02:02:02,220 --> 02:02:05,550 found yo when Adam was on higher side chats, skipped around 1959 02:02:05,550 --> 02:02:08,310 listen a few episodes, but I've now started starting with the 1960 02:02:08,310 --> 02:02:10,650 first one and somewhere in the middle. It's very interesting to 1961 02:02:10,650 --> 02:02:12,990 go back and listen to the shows that are more about current 1962 02:02:12,990 --> 02:02:15,870 events, Biden, Chinese buyers, etc. and compared to what 1963 02:02:15,870 --> 02:02:18,840 actually happened. While sitting on my patio listening to the 1964 02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:21,720 show, I was trying to decide how much I wanted to donate. I 1965 02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:25,530 looked up and saw a hummingbird two feet away from me. That has 1966 02:02:25,530 --> 02:02:28,860 never happened. A few minutes later, I see the largest 1967 02:02:28,860 --> 02:02:32,250 butterfly I have ever seen as I grab my phone to start the 1968 02:02:32,250 --> 02:02:38,340 donation process the time is 111 crazy. Sorry for the long 1969 02:02:38,340 --> 02:02:42,990 message appreciate your work. Yes, it's called synchronicity. 1970 02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:44,790 Thank you very much Madeline and 1971 02:02:45,180 --> 02:02:48,630 messenger butter. Messenger. Hummingbird is work. I told you 1972 02:02:48,660 --> 02:02:51,450 I don't know what work joke but I love 1973 02:02:51,450 --> 02:02:53,880 that. I think that Hummingbird isn't even really even a bird. I 1974 02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:57,540 think it's a it's an insect. Really? Yeah, I think so. No, 1975 02:02:57,540 --> 02:03:00,420 ruin it for me. Though it could be a bird for you. 1976 02:03:02,700 --> 02:03:04,800 I have tons of them out here. So yeah, we 1977 02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:07,710 have one here. 210 is really happy because she planted this 1978 02:03:07,710 --> 02:03:10,560 new thing with the pink flowers, a purple flowers and 1979 02:03:10,980 --> 02:03:18,090 hummingbirds are on it. Duty six B, also $200 Hi, Mo really 1980 02:03:18,090 --> 02:03:21,120 enjoyed your live stream last night. I look forward to 1981 02:03:21,120 --> 02:03:23,880 catching more of those as they happen. Your sharing is a 1982 02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:27,000 beautiful part of this amazing journey I'm on after years of 1983 02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:31,170 challenges. I divorced in 2017. After 35 years, and have grown 1984 02:03:31,170 --> 02:03:34,410 so much from all of the change God or whatever we name it keeps 1985 02:03:34,410 --> 02:03:37,170 bringing wonderful teachers into my world that I'm so very 1986 02:03:37,170 --> 02:03:40,170 grateful. I appreciate your openness and hard work. And this 1987 02:03:40,170 --> 02:03:43,260 is just a downpayment. Best of wishes to you and your sweet 1988 02:03:43,260 --> 02:03:45,000 family. Isn't that nice? 1989 02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:48,600 Can I ask people to do one thing? I know people don't watch 1990 02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:52,710 it on YouTube. But go and comment and like do videos. 1991 02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:57,000 Because what it does is it tricks the algorithm to bring 1992 02:03:57,000 --> 02:04:00,960 more people in, um, and then we can siphon them off for YouTube. 1993 02:04:01,020 --> 02:04:01,590 That's the whole 1994 02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:05,430 the whole point is to help help us siphon siphon it off a 1995 02:04:05,430 --> 02:04:06,270 YouTube please. 1996 02:04:06,330 --> 02:04:08,610 That's exactly what we're trying to do. We're taking we're taking 1997 02:04:08,610 --> 02:04:12,540 them off to podcasting 2.0 and we got to get them in I got him 1998 02:04:12,540 --> 02:04:16,740 in the loop first. Very close to the live streaming podcast apps. 1999 02:04:16,740 --> 02:04:18,450 I'm waiting for it and I'm waiting. 2000 02:04:18,510 --> 02:04:21,750 Yeah since a lot of smart people a lot smarter me working on it. 2001 02:04:23,250 --> 02:04:28,530 Okay, we've got our last executive producer Brian mass 2002 02:04:29,010 --> 02:04:36,870 $100 addition to the mandate funds. The mandate fund in de 2003 02:04:36,870 --> 02:04:39,870 Thank you very much. Then associate executive producer 2004 02:04:39,870 --> 02:04:43,710 Jonathan Peckham 6669 says love was lit. Thanks for all you do 2005 02:04:43,860 --> 02:04:46,890 triple gold, WUSA karma. I think we can do that. 2006 02:04:55,770 --> 02:05:06,300 You've gone All right, there we go. Christopher Belsky 6633 Hey 2007 02:05:06,300 --> 02:05:09,930 mon Adam fursan overdue deducing is an order. Well, you know what 2008 02:05:09,930 --> 02:05:14,820 do we do here is we deadbeat. So we're going to give you a D dead 2009 02:05:14,820 --> 02:05:22,830 beating. Congratulation, you're no longer a deadbeat. I started 2010 02:05:22,830 --> 02:05:25,230 listening after Adam mentioned the show during his appearance 2011 02:05:25,230 --> 02:05:27,540 on the higher side chats in January while that really 2012 02:05:27,540 --> 02:05:31,260 worked, like that show. Your deconstruction of the dark 2013 02:05:31,260 --> 02:05:33,900 forces and symbolism hiding behind the shiny veneer of 2014 02:05:33,900 --> 02:05:37,200 public figures and events has been invaluable in transforming 2015 02:05:37,200 --> 02:05:40,260 the way I see this brave new world of ours. Looking forward 2016 02:05:40,260 --> 02:05:42,540 to enjoying the show on the new schedule. We'll hit some more 2017 02:05:42,540 --> 02:05:45,390 people in the mouth in order to see it continue to grow. I see 2018 02:05:45,390 --> 02:05:47,670 how much work goes into each episode and personally think 2019 02:05:47,670 --> 02:05:50,340 that a deserved donation segments at least as robust as 2020 02:05:50,340 --> 02:05:53,820 no agenda. You're here. Thanks for everything you do. So mo 2021 02:05:53,820 --> 02:05:57,000 jobs and relationship karma would be greatly appreciated. 2022 02:05:57,450 --> 02:06:00,720 Yeah. We don't have an actual jobs karma. 2023 02:06:01,410 --> 02:06:07,050 Do we do we don't but we but we really wish you jobs. We 2024 02:06:07,050 --> 02:06:13,650 wish you good jobs karma with this one. That stuff does work. 2025 02:06:13,650 --> 02:06:18,330 That one everyone talks about? Chris Bailey $66 his note. Thank 2026 02:06:18,330 --> 02:06:21,630 you, gentlemen. And we thank you, Chris Bailey, a cult fan, 2027 02:06:21,630 --> 02:06:24,960 sir Nathan Lee, and I'm going to edit a little bit of his notice 2028 02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:27,420 in this a long note, sir Nathan Lee says, Hey, Mona Adam, 2029 02:06:27,420 --> 02:06:30,990 congratulations on running such an excellent show. By the way, I 2030 02:06:30,990 --> 02:06:33,330 have a lot of contact with sir Nathan. He's very interesting 2031 02:06:33,330 --> 02:06:38,040 guy. You want to talk to you want to talk spells. He's your 2032 02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:41,130 man. Yeah. Your work is part of it will be helping heal our 2033 02:06:41,130 --> 02:06:44,520 world moving forward. There's an American Revolution coming. 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This is often when 2043 02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:19,140 leaburg begins which is one of four cardinal points in this 2044 02:07:19,140 --> 02:07:23,070 case, the fall equinox. It's also my birthday. So even though 2045 02:07:23,070 --> 02:07:26,640 it's next Wednesday on a noon show Wednesday, which is mercury 2046 02:07:26,670 --> 02:07:28,980 by non show Wednesday, which is mercury no 2047 02:07:28,980 --> 02:07:32,580 such thing as a nice show Wednesday. Hint hint. 2048 02:07:33,390 --> 02:07:38,010 Here would you say? That's right. Exactly. There's always a 2049 02:07:38,010 --> 02:07:44,070 show on some Wednesdays Okay, Wednesday, which is mercury Yes. 2050 02:07:44,070 --> 02:07:47,580 McCurdy, the God of art, commerce and communication whose 2051 02:07:47,580 --> 02:07:53,430 color is orange. I would like a biscuit for my 22nd 20 September 2052 02:07:53,430 --> 02:07:58,050 22 birthday. I'm turning 37 WUSA, and please give a shout 2053 02:07:58,050 --> 02:08:01,320 out to my man Joey J. I'll take some mo karma for the LP I'm 2054 02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:04,860 working on if I weren't busy enough for just started my show 2055 02:08:04,860 --> 02:08:08,940 six of swords That one's backup. So a mohawk. So I want to uh, 2056 02:08:08,940 --> 02:08:13,590 WUSA, please gbg. onwards. Great word, gentlemen. I'm impressed 2057 02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:17,010 and more so I'm grateful sir Nathan Lee. They always 2058 02:08:17,010 --> 02:08:22,860 give me a biscuit on my birth control on a goat for karma. 2059 02:08:24,510 --> 02:08:25,320 You've got 2060 02:08:28,380 --> 02:08:32,100 66 from clay Wilson. Mo he says the quality of the show just 2061 02:08:32,100 --> 02:08:35,880 keeps improving and 65 was a particularly great episode. Whoo 2062 02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,970 sauce for everyone. Hopefully quick question. Have you seen 2063 02:08:38,970 --> 02:08:41,130 the HBO series Lovecraft country? 2064 02:08:41,580 --> 02:08:44,760 Have you have not not not watched it but now I'm happy to 2065 02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:48,660 go back and watch it, but a tragic loss of microwave 2066 02:08:50,460 --> 02:08:53,940 not to give away the whole plot but it revolves around an A das 2067 02:08:53,940 --> 02:08:57,870 man in 1950s. America discovers he is the last male line of an 2068 02:08:57,900 --> 02:09:01,230 ancient magical bloodline, and the efforts and the efforts of 2069 02:09:01,230 --> 02:09:05,670 two competing covens Calvin's attempt to sacrifice him to 2070 02:09:05,670 --> 02:09:08,880 control his power beyond broadcasting many of the themes 2071 02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:13,200 you've alluded to in many episodes it is genuinely worth a 2072 02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:16,290 watch and quite entertaining if not a little distressing. It 2073 02:09:16,290 --> 02:09:20,040 also features the new sadly now late Michael k Williams aka Omar 2074 02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:24,270 of the wire. If you made it that far. Look into what was planned 2075 02:09:24,270 --> 02:09:28,320 from the show runners for the now cancelled season. Go 2076 02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:39,900 podcasting? Yes, everybody. Got to watch that too. I gotta watch 2077 02:09:39,900 --> 02:09:45,480 this. This I gotta watch this 2017 movie from Oprah. 2078 02:09:47,370 --> 02:09:48,090 Very busy. 2079 02:09:48,210 --> 02:09:49,650 It's gonna be super busy. 2080 02:09:50,730 --> 02:09:54,690 Time that is small doses telling small in small doses because you 2081 02:09:54,690 --> 02:09:58,410 know, I mean trauma based entertainment. Yes, you have to 2082 02:09:58,440 --> 02:09:59,670 take in a small it can 2083 02:09:59,670 --> 02:10:03,690 hurt the amygdala. That's true. That's absolutely true. Edwin 2084 02:10:03,690 --> 02:10:07,500 Torres 55 gbg gave blacks guns and forgot to request deadbeat 2085 02:10:07,500 --> 02:10:10,110 on my first day nation and can have a biscuit for my birthday 2086 02:10:10,110 --> 02:10:13,830 on 928 you bet always give me a biscuit on my birthday. 2087 02:10:15,540 --> 02:10:21,840 Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat crystal Hart's 2088 02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:25,290 associate executive producer of $50 we thank you Chris summer 2089 02:10:25,290 --> 02:10:29,250 Norris $50. Mo is the professor I wish I'd had in my African 2090 02:10:29,250 --> 02:10:32,640 American lit class circa late 90s. Washington State University 2091 02:10:32,700 --> 02:10:36,930 fascinating dive into the history of Cosby. I loved it 2092 02:10:36,930 --> 02:10:43,140 too. So good. Ramon Johnson $50, our final Executive Associate 2093 02:10:43,170 --> 02:10:47,970 associate executive producer for Episode Number 66 with $50. And 2094 02:10:48,300 --> 02:10:51,540 Ramon says, Why not be honest with people about pop control? 2095 02:10:52,710 --> 02:10:53,820 Are we not honest about 2096 02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:57,600 the show is about population control. What 2097 02:10:57,600 --> 02:10:59,070 shall we listen to remote? 2098 02:11:00,750 --> 02:11:03,390 That's the whole point of everything. I mean, we said that 2099 02:11:03,900 --> 02:11:08,730 earlier. Earlier shows that that's all roads lead to 2100 02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:12,570 population control. I mean, it's kind of like the maybe we don't 2101 02:11:12,780 --> 02:11:14,700 talk about it enough. But it's like, understood. 2102 02:11:16,140 --> 02:11:18,690 Yeah, I think it's been it's been a continuing theme 2103 02:11:18,690 --> 02:11:20,250 throughout everything. Yeah. 2104 02:11:20,430 --> 02:11:23,040 Right. It's like kind of my people I want you to do a show 2105 02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:25,710 on Oprah It's like she cuz she comes up in almost every 2106 02:11:25,890 --> 02:11:26,550 episode. 2107 02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:31,560 By the way, do you know that the the CNN, Doctor lady who's you 2108 02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:34,470 know who's on who's now always on saying, Oh, you know, make 2109 02:11:34,470 --> 02:11:38,640 them have a vaccine passport to go on airplanes and trains. You 2110 02:11:38,640 --> 02:11:42,330 don't have the right you know who she is? Lena. Wait, no. She 2111 02:11:42,360 --> 02:11:46,530 She was the former she's the former CEO of Planned 2112 02:11:46,530 --> 02:11:47,130 Parenthood. 2113 02:11:48,030 --> 02:11:51,450 Oh, yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, I mean, Case in point. I 2114 02:11:51,450 --> 02:11:54,450 mean, what do you Genesis right out in front with this one? 2115 02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:58,410 Maybe because we say you Genesis people don't might link that the 2116 02:11:58,410 --> 02:11:59,880 population control but 2117 02:11:59,970 --> 02:12:06,090 well just go look at the population mom. This is it's the 2118 02:12:06,090 --> 02:12:09,000 same people, some of them are still around today with the 2119 02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:13,260 climate change hoopla. They've always been the they being the 2120 02:12:13,260 --> 02:12:16,260 elites have always complained about having too many people. 2121 02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:21,210 That's gonna get out of control. What are you gonna do? And, and 2122 02:12:21,210 --> 02:12:24,300 that's the core of the Genesis and then we get the Nazis we 2123 02:12:24,300 --> 02:12:26,610 brought in, apparently, and they're still doing cool 2124 02:12:26,610 --> 02:12:29,340 experiments. Great time. 2125 02:12:31,020 --> 02:12:34,350 We don't talk about a name but that's the whole spirit of 2126 02:12:34,410 --> 02:12:38,190 what's going on pretty much it and pretty. They want us dead 2127 02:12:38,190 --> 02:12:40,680 folks. One way or another go. Thank 2128 02:12:40,679 --> 02:12:43,319 you very much to these executive producer and associate executive 2129 02:12:43,319 --> 02:12:46,289 producer of Episode Number 66 of mo faxes. Adam Curry will be 2130 02:12:46,289 --> 02:12:49,109 thanking some more people in another segment coming up. But 2131 02:12:49,109 --> 02:12:50,939 right now let's get back to the show. 2132 02:12:53,580 --> 02:12:57,420 So Ramon wanted some population control. So 30 2133 02:12:57,600 --> 02:13:00,390 China tried to ship enough fentanyl into the United States 2134 02:13:00,390 --> 02:13:02,640 to kill everybody in the US. 2135 02:13:03,030 --> 02:13:05,010 Yeah, I'm in agreement with that. 2136 02:13:06,210 --> 02:13:11,160 Well, sadly, it killed one of our favorite people, Omar now. 2137 02:13:11,790 --> 02:13:16,260 Michael K. Williams. I am so we have to talk about it. Because 2138 02:13:16,260 --> 02:13:20,850 you're a newly minted wire fan, which I think wire can have it 2139 02:13:20,850 --> 02:13:25,890 on like what's it called? cosplay or Comic Con like you 2140 02:13:26,130 --> 02:13:29,220 that shows problem where you could probably have that now but 2141 02:13:29,310 --> 02:13:33,300 Oh, yeah. Because when people like everybody said, Oh my god, 2142 02:13:33,300 --> 02:13:37,530 Omar died. Omar died. I was like what? Who? raised me like oh, 2143 02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:39,570 Omar and it's like so? 2144 02:13:40,380 --> 02:13:43,290 Oh, yeah, I mean it I immediately knew it because I 2145 02:13:43,290 --> 02:13:46,470 just just fresh from watching. So that's why I like Oh, man. 2146 02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:51,510 You just, you know, make everybody aware that you had 2147 02:13:51,510 --> 02:13:56,160 finished the wire last show. Yeah. Now this so? Well, we got 2148 02:13:56,160 --> 02:13:59,130 to talk about it. So let's go ahead and get into 31. But more 2149 02:13:59,130 --> 02:13:59,610 now on 2150 02:13:59,610 --> 02:14:02,550 the breaking news we've been following tonight the death of 2151 02:14:02,550 --> 02:14:05,040 actor Michael K. Williams who was found dead inside his 2152 02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:07,740 apartment in Brooklyn. And EYEWITNESS NEWS REPORTER Lucy 2153 02:14:07,740 --> 02:14:10,020 Yang is live outside his apartment in Williamsburg now 2154 02:14:10,050 --> 02:14:11,010 with more Lucy. 2155 02:14:13,740 --> 02:14:18,660 What David family friends co stars and fans are reeling from 2156 02:14:18,660 --> 02:14:22,800 the death of Michael Kenneth Williams. today. We're in 2157 02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:25,860 Williamsburg in front of the luxury condo where officials 2158 02:14:25,860 --> 02:14:30,150 confirm the 54 year old actor was found inside his penthouse 2159 02:14:30,150 --> 02:14:33,870 apartment by your nephew around two o'clock this afternoon. 2160 02:14:34,080 --> 02:14:38,160 Officials report there was drug paraphernalia around his body. 2161 02:14:38,280 --> 02:14:42,510 The me is on site right now and will determine if this was a 2162 02:14:42,510 --> 02:14:46,080 drug overdose. His body has not yet been removed from his 2163 02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:49,560 apartment. The Brooklyn born actor grew up in NYCHA housing 2164 02:14:49,560 --> 02:14:53,130 in East Flatbush, he went on to win critical acclaim for his 2165 02:14:53,130 --> 02:14:57,210 many roles, including for his portrayal of Omar little in the 2166 02:14:57,210 --> 02:15:02,280 HBO series, the wire, a gritty shows set in the drug dealing 2167 02:15:02,280 --> 02:15:06,390 underworld of New York City. It may have been a little too close 2168 02:15:06,390 --> 02:15:11,220 to reality of drugs did play a role in the actor's death. HBO 2169 02:15:11,220 --> 02:15:14,910 just a few minutes ago released a statement mourning the loss of 2170 02:15:14,910 --> 02:15:19,620 their HBO family member of more than 20 years. Michael K. 2171 02:15:19,620 --> 02:15:22,590 Williams was 54 years old. 2172 02:15:23,970 --> 02:15:30,480 New York City. Yeah, get a rope. No, she said it was the wire was 2173 02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:31,620 based in New York. Oh, she 2174 02:15:31,620 --> 02:15:38,730 said that. Oh, crap. What an idiot. Baltimore one job. Get 2175 02:15:38,730 --> 02:15:40,620 the obituary, right lady? 2176 02:15:43,830 --> 02:15:47,010 Come like, What? How do you get that wrong? 2177 02:15:47,040 --> 02:15:51,840 Because she was confused with Brooklyn and all that was no but 2178 02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:54,600 still, that's how they get everything wrong. It's always 2179 02:15:54,600 --> 02:16:00,180 wrong. You know, I just speak to general observation, General 2180 02:16:00,210 --> 02:16:06,570 macro observation. With the knowledge that the CIA most 2181 02:16:06,570 --> 02:16:09,870 likely is always been running the drugs out of Afghanistan, 2182 02:16:09,870 --> 02:16:14,550 the poppies or process or not whatever, to see Denzel 2183 02:16:14,550 --> 02:16:19,950 Washington and American Gangster True story. Right. Afghanistan, 2184 02:16:20,070 --> 02:16:24,570 that whole thing blew up and we pulled out. And the next day 2185 02:16:24,600 --> 02:16:29,640 we've got people dying from fentanyl. Or at least the 2186 02:16:29,640 --> 02:16:31,530 stories are showing up in the news. 2187 02:16:32,070 --> 02:16:34,830 Yeah, I mean, maybe Dallas is 2016 I know. 2188 02:16:34,860 --> 02:16:39,360 But they resigned from fentanyl, not from heroin. And it just 2189 02:16:39,390 --> 02:16:42,450 it's like it ratcheted it up. It's like Whoa, did the CIA 2190 02:16:42,450 --> 02:16:45,390 supply really truly get shut off? Do they have no way to 2191 02:16:45,390 --> 02:16:48,780 bring it in anymore? And therefore it's all fentanyl. I 2192 02:16:48,780 --> 02:16:53,370 mean, it was it as Alec says it's truly an attack. The 2193 02:16:53,370 --> 02:16:56,130 Chinese this this probably you're still pissed off over the 2194 02:16:56,130 --> 02:16:59,190 Opium Wars, even though that was the Brits but okay. 2195 02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:03,000 Well, we had to back up a little bit, because we talked about 2196 02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:08,130 planned obsolescence, right that you have to send it like with 2197 02:17:08,130 --> 02:17:13,860 heroin, it takes so long. And I say that like so morbidly with 2198 02:17:13,890 --> 02:17:16,800 the leaves look like cow we gotta wait from the die. 2199 02:17:17,340 --> 02:17:19,170 Like Skid Row, like Skid Row. That's where 2200 02:17:21,120 --> 02:17:26,460 you know, we need some hardcore something one hitter that's 2201 02:17:26,460 --> 02:17:30,300 gonna kill him. And something that we can put into every drug 2202 02:17:30,300 --> 02:17:34,530 because just from my research, Michael k k whales drug but he 2203 02:17:34,530 --> 02:17:38,490 struggled with cocaine, heroin, and they said drug 2204 02:17:38,490 --> 02:17:42,600 paraphernalia, so that makes you think like, he has stems and not 2205 02:17:42,600 --> 02:17:46,470 asking me spoons and spikes in a bill and those kinds of things 2206 02:17:46,470 --> 02:17:52,740 all around them. Right. So what? He never out all the clips I've 2207 02:17:52,740 --> 02:17:55,470 looked through. He never mentioned anything about using 2208 02:17:55,500 --> 02:17:56,310 heroin. Yes. 2209 02:17:56,940 --> 02:18:00,420 This is a known unknown fact that this is now popping up in 2210 02:18:00,420 --> 02:18:03,330 cocaine. In particular in in Brooklyn. 2211 02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:07,350 And weed. In weed. Yes. 2212 02:18:08,580 --> 02:18:10,260 Okay, now you have my attention. 2213 02:18:11,039 --> 02:18:14,339 No, I'm serious. I'm serious by this. I actually posted on my 2214 02:18:14,369 --> 02:18:19,229 arm. On my Twitter page. There is no, I mean, why would 2215 02:18:19,229 --> 02:18:21,719 anything they sprinkle anything on weed? Right? They were doing 2216 02:18:21,719 --> 02:18:28,079 the same thing with like, LSD, LSD, but PCP. Um, you know, for 2217 02:18:28,079 --> 02:18:31,049 a while they were doing that, and they were doing a embalming 2218 02:18:31,049 --> 02:18:34,709 fluid for right. Wow. I mean, if you got trash weed, you got to 2219 02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:39,299 move it. Why not? You know, sprinkle something on it. And 2220 02:18:39,599 --> 02:18:42,749 this is why I brought the story up. And we're not as you're 2221 02:18:42,749 --> 02:18:51,269 saying fitting. Oh, yeah. carfit now can't wear that no, car 2222 02:18:51,269 --> 02:18:58,979 fentanyl is like the is like the it's like, I think maybe heart 2223 02:18:58,979 --> 02:19:00,209 are strong and fit now. 2224 02:19:00,960 --> 02:19:05,970 It's like the methane of natural gas. Right. Geez. 2225 02:19:06,630 --> 02:19:08,970 This stuff is taking people I mean, like, 2226 02:19:08,970 --> 02:19:13,830 Well, I know. I know. I know. I know. I've been sent a message 2227 02:19:13,830 --> 02:19:17,010 to my stepdaughter. She's New York and she's 24 hours a day. 2228 02:19:17,010 --> 02:19:17,880 Just Don't be an idiot. 2229 02:19:18,809 --> 02:19:21,089 Right? Because you don't know what your investors think about 2230 02:19:21,089 --> 02:19:24,389 it. It's not like before, I mean, they're pressing appeals 2231 02:19:24,389 --> 02:19:29,729 and it's what what I think happened is even if you can't It 2232 02:19:29,729 --> 02:19:35,129 is so such a small dose that you can't separate saying like, if 2233 02:19:35,129 --> 02:19:39,089 you get like a little clump with seasoning your food. If you just 2234 02:19:39,089 --> 02:19:42,929 say like you get a little clump of strong seasoning when you 2235 02:19:42,929 --> 02:19:44,459 bite into one bite. You're dead. 2236 02:19:44,760 --> 02:19:47,910 Oh, no, I know it. There's been cops who have just been around 2237 02:19:47,910 --> 02:19:49,500 it and they and they almost die. 2238 02:19:50,010 --> 02:19:54,270 Right. And so I think with him when they said drug 2239 02:19:54,270 --> 02:19:58,200 paraphernalia. I don't actually I know everything he talked 2240 02:19:58,200 --> 02:20:03,840 about was cocaine. So what's really going on here but as we 2241 02:20:03,840 --> 02:20:06,570 talked about before I think they're they're cleaning up 2242 02:20:06,570 --> 02:20:14,760 streets that mean this is Vegas crate and especially if you're 2243 02:20:14,790 --> 02:20:18,300 thinking about it with the how Baltimore you need to get the 2244 02:20:18,300 --> 02:20:22,140 people and the sad thing about it is the addicts are going to 2245 02:20:22,140 --> 02:20:22,740 chase it 2246 02:20:23,610 --> 02:20:26,850 oh yeah oh yeah if they make it through it they'll want it 2247 02:20:27,630 --> 02:20:30,060 yeah I mean somebody died and like that was the one to ruin 2248 02:20:30,060 --> 02:20:32,970 things on wire right when make some money have a good package 2249 02:20:33,180 --> 02:20:37,260 to Mike die overdose all the rest of the addicts we're 2250 02:20:37,260 --> 02:20:39,060 looking for that package. 2251 02:20:39,990 --> 02:20:43,080 Yeah, I'm just looking at some some new stories has been going 2252 02:20:43,080 --> 02:20:46,530 on for about a year and a half or two years looks like with 2253 02:20:46,530 --> 02:20:50,460 that car fit now. It just says fentanyl as a just a note on 2254 02:20:50,460 --> 02:20:51,120 research. 2255 02:20:51,480 --> 02:20:55,140 This was saying I think this misnomer. I don't know why 2256 02:20:55,140 --> 02:20:59,580 they're not using the proper term for cuz they're two totally 2257 02:20:59,580 --> 02:21:03,870 different substances. And it's called everybody just I didn't 2258 02:21:03,870 --> 02:21:07,200 know that carfentanil I think it's nice to have the tea in 2259 02:21:07,230 --> 02:21:11,370 though it's like carfentanil without the tea. Okay, also look 2260 02:21:11,370 --> 02:21:16,320 into it. But yeah, it's like 10 or 100 times stronger than 2261 02:21:16,320 --> 02:21:21,330 fitting Oh, well it's bad enough in itself Yeah. Me Like so. What 2262 02:21:21,330 --> 02:21:27,990 are we doing here and a night um yeah, so I want to get into his 2263 02:21:28,020 --> 02:21:33,030 backstory here with Michael k Williams is no supersedes his 2264 02:21:33,690 --> 02:21:38,250 like drug use. Um, let's get into where we're at. Let's get 2265 02:21:38,250 --> 02:21:42,120 into 32 and this is Michael K. Williams death leaves painful 2266 02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:42,600 void 2267 02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:46,710 How many times have you been arrested as an adult Mr. Little 2268 02:21:47,370 --> 02:21:48,090 lost count. 2269 02:21:49,110 --> 02:21:51,300 He was the tour de force on screen 2270 02:21:51,300 --> 02:21:53,730 and in the kind of put my gun on no citizen. 2271 02:21:54,810 --> 02:21:59,190 You are a moral. You are a parasite leeches off just like 2272 02:21:59,190 --> 02:22:00,960 you culture of drugs. Excuse 2273 02:22:00,960 --> 02:22:03,630 me. I got the shotgun. 2274 02:22:05,610 --> 02:22:12,330 Got the briefcase. Still in the game though, right. known for 2275 02:22:12,330 --> 02:22:15,510 playing what many would go on to call the greatest character on 2276 02:22:15,510 --> 02:22:21,360 television ever. Omar Liddell, from the white man cadaver Co. 2277 02:22:22,020 --> 02:22:25,650 Michael K. Williams, the beloved actor and performer from East 2278 02:22:25,650 --> 02:22:28,470 Flatbush, Brooklyn was found dead in his New York apartment 2279 02:22:28,500 --> 02:22:29,700 on Monday afternoon. 2280 02:22:30,029 --> 02:22:33,089 A family member discovered Williams dead drug paraphernalia 2281 02:22:33,209 --> 02:22:35,309 was found in the home. While the cause 2282 02:22:35,310 --> 02:22:39,360 of his death is still unknown. The NYPD is investigating it as 2283 02:22:39,360 --> 02:22:43,980 a possible drug overdose things where you never expect someone 2284 02:22:43,980 --> 02:22:47,220 who seems to be at the prime of their career to come to 2285 02:22:47,220 --> 02:22:51,420 something like this. Williams electrifying audiences with 2286 02:22:51,420 --> 02:22:54,510 rousing and chilling performances as chalky white in 2287 02:22:54,510 --> 02:22:57,090 the period gangster series Boardwalk Empire. 2288 02:22:57,180 --> 02:23:02,040 He's here my dad tunes. What do you got to do with well, 2289 02:23:05,850 --> 02:23:07,980 building no bookcase, 2290 02:23:08,400 --> 02:23:12,570 inmate Friday night in the night of and most recently as Montrose 2291 02:23:12,570 --> 02:23:16,290 Freeman. The complicated closeted father in Lovecraft 2292 02:23:16,290 --> 02:23:16,860 country. 2293 02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:22,470 One of my favorite roles. His was the Boardwalk Empire and 2294 02:23:22,470 --> 02:23:28,500 Boardwalk Empire with a Yeah, that was good. Yeah. Everybody 2295 02:23:28,500 --> 02:23:31,290 talks about it like the why I mean, of course, cuz that was 2296 02:23:31,290 --> 02:23:36,480 his breakout. Right. That was a great show. And he had a very 2297 02:23:36,480 --> 02:23:41,970 interesting role that he played in that in that period piece. So 2298 02:23:42,150 --> 02:23:44,220 this is just the backdrop once again, you hear drug 2299 02:23:44,220 --> 02:23:46,860 paraphernalia? I don't know what they're doing with that. I mean, 2300 02:23:46,860 --> 02:23:51,660 like, I mean, why why are they stressed in the paraphernalia 2301 02:23:51,660 --> 02:23:54,210 thing? it what it does? In my mind, it just paints the picture 2302 02:23:54,210 --> 02:23:57,210 of like, they're trying to say it's like a heroin overdose, 2303 02:23:57,210 --> 02:23:59,640 because that's just what 2304 02:24:00,810 --> 02:24:03,390 that's certainly what you think about Yeah, right. 2305 02:24:03,420 --> 02:24:06,300 So I'm just just, that's what I'm saying with that, but so 2306 02:24:06,300 --> 02:24:10,950 they're gonna go on and speak more and part two about his, his 2307 02:24:11,400 --> 02:24:13,980 addiction and his accolades. 2308 02:24:14,189 --> 02:24:17,009 But it was that distinctive scar on his face that changed the 2309 02:24:17,009 --> 02:24:20,969 trajectory of his entire career. You're not nearly as scary as I 2310 02:24:20,969 --> 02:24:23,969 thought you were going to be the actor telling Dan Harris in 2008 2311 02:24:23,999 --> 02:24:24,779 how he got it, 2312 02:24:25,080 --> 02:24:30,240 you know, 25 years old, barroom brawl, drinking and drugging, 2313 02:24:30,390 --> 02:24:31,500 you know, out of my mind, 2314 02:24:31,529 --> 02:24:34,889 it became this distinctive defining characteristic of him. 2315 02:24:35,099 --> 02:24:38,639 That sort of helped him create the balance between edge and 2316 02:24:38,639 --> 02:24:42,899 tenderness and, you know, this hardened past but a hope for a 2317 02:24:42,899 --> 02:24:43,859 warmer future. 2318 02:24:44,220 --> 02:24:46,530 And I will put a bullet in all your bio and what happened right 2319 02:24:46,530 --> 02:24:47,520 now you are, 2320 02:24:48,120 --> 02:24:51,780 but it was his nuanced role as Omar Liddell in the wire, a 2321 02:24:51,780 --> 02:24:55,260 black openly gay hustler that was unheard of in Hollywood, 2322 02:24:55,650 --> 02:24:57,750 which cemented Williams as star power 2323 02:24:58,170 --> 02:25:02,370 as you told me out the On a successful playing an openly gay 2324 02:25:02,580 --> 02:25:05,970 thug on television, I couldn't have seen this comment in a 2325 02:25:05,970 --> 02:25:06,810 million years. 2326 02:25:06,930 --> 02:25:11,070 Up until that point, so many people had never seen a black 2327 02:25:11,070 --> 02:25:16,920 gay man on TV. And when they had seen them, it was in the guise 2328 02:25:16,920 --> 02:25:22,140 of flamboyance and flightiness. But oh, my little, no, on top of 2329 02:25:22,140 --> 02:25:25,440 being this really, you know, sort of fascinating anti hero, 2330 02:25:25,470 --> 02:25:28,590 his sexuality became a part of his identity that couldn't be 2331 02:25:28,590 --> 02:25:34,170 ignored. Obviously, portrayal of little so iconic to garner the 2332 02:25:34,170 --> 02:25:36,120 attention of President Barack Obama, 2333 02:25:36,420 --> 02:25:39,450 Omar's Oh, by the way, my favorite character, 2334 02:25:39,570 --> 02:25:42,060 what do you think when you heard Barack Obama said you were his 2335 02:25:42,060 --> 02:25:43,230 favorite character? 2336 02:25:43,770 --> 02:25:48,000 You know, my first reaction about that was was based on my 2337 02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:52,110 mother to see the proudness of her face, and to see how her 2338 02:25:52,110 --> 02:25:53,730 eyes lit up made my day. 2339 02:25:56,310 --> 02:26:00,960 So you got here like this Obama theme, just listen for it. But 2340 02:26:00,990 --> 02:26:07,320 um, I have to disagree with the gentleman's analysis that the 2341 02:26:07,320 --> 02:26:12,300 gayness was a, like, a standout part of his character, which it 2342 02:26:12,300 --> 02:26:18,360 wasn't in a way it was because it was shocking at the time. But 2343 02:26:18,360 --> 02:26:20,730 they didn't make his character about being gay. 2344 02:26:21,480 --> 02:26:25,770 is no normal, no more than, than any of the other characters who 2345 02:26:25,770 --> 02:26:29,250 were making out with women in the show was it was it was not 2346 02:26:29,250 --> 02:26:32,040 central to the it might have been, it wasn't even central to 2347 02:26:32,040 --> 02:26:35,100 the plot, where there was some other things going on, you know, 2348 02:26:35,100 --> 02:26:37,650 with the kid who was in jail, and then you know, the guy goes 2349 02:26:37,650 --> 02:26:39,480 there and hooks up with his wife. 2350 02:26:41,070 --> 02:26:44,400 So I mean, that's, that's the thing is, I saw that they were 2351 02:26:44,400 --> 02:26:52,620 trying to, rightfully so paint him as a gay rights activist in 2352 02:26:52,620 --> 02:26:56,040 a way. I mean, when they were covering his death. Oh, really? 2353 02:26:56,099 --> 02:26:58,859 I thought, that good actor, that's all I saw. 2354 02:26:58,919 --> 02:27:01,379 I mean, that's what I saw, too. But I mean, even when they 2355 02:27:01,379 --> 02:27:04,649 brought them back around, and what was it called the one that 2356 02:27:04,649 --> 02:27:08,159 we were suggested to watch. The Lovecraft had to go back to 2357 02:27:08,159 --> 02:27:13,979 planning a closeted gay character. So that Right, right, 2358 02:27:13,979 --> 02:27:18,269 yeah. So I just found it interesting that they took that 2359 02:27:18,269 --> 02:27:22,019 angle, because that's what made the wire so great. And in my 2360 02:27:22,049 --> 02:27:26,459 opinion, the greatest television show ever. Because everybody was 2361 02:27:26,459 --> 02:27:30,389 humanized. Yeah, it was real. Yeah, it was like, Okay, I know 2362 02:27:30,389 --> 02:27:33,299 a person like that, or, you know, that's believable. It 2363 02:27:33,299 --> 02:27:36,959 wasn't just like, shooting gun sideways. And, you know, all the 2364 02:27:36,959 --> 02:27:40,529 stereotypical things that come along with not only being black, 2365 02:27:40,529 --> 02:27:45,449 but being gay, right? p was a man at the end of the day, I'm 2366 02:27:45,479 --> 02:27:49,889 with you. Like, he's not my words, his words, like you only 2367 02:27:49,889 --> 02:27:54,419 saw black man as being flaming. And this is a first 2368 02:27:54,869 --> 02:28:00,029 representation that we saw like this. So, um, so now we get to 2369 02:28:00,029 --> 02:28:06,839 go to your favorite guy. Ra. 2370 02:28:09,030 --> 02:28:11,400 You're supposed to say your buddy, your buddy, Ari. 2371 02:28:11,700 --> 02:28:12,930 He's your buddy Ra. 2372 02:28:12,960 --> 02:28:15,210 He's a pal of the pod. Yeah. 2373 02:28:16,110 --> 02:28:22,500 He talks to Michael about his role on the wire. I gotta say. I 2374 02:28:22,500 --> 02:28:27,330 mean, you can make a national news. 2375 02:28:28,710 --> 02:28:31,380 That is, that is not an endorsement. He was not my 2376 02:28:31,380 --> 02:28:36,210 favorite person. But he's a fascinating character. And 2377 02:28:36,210 --> 02:28:43,170 there's a real life story of a gay gangster who only robbed 2378 02:28:43,170 --> 02:28:46,080 drug dealers. And that gives back in a sort of Robin Hood, 2379 02:28:46,260 --> 02:28:49,050 what do you think about playing a character that made such an 2380 02:28:49,050 --> 02:28:50,760 impression on Barack Obama? 2381 02:28:52,230 --> 02:28:56,160 It was, it was eye opening experience. For me, the impact 2382 02:28:56,160 --> 02:29:00,510 that had on me was on to say I was humbled was and then again, 2383 02:29:00,510 --> 02:29:04,170 an understatement. But I wasn't living my best life when that 2384 02:29:04,170 --> 02:29:07,710 happened. Really, what do you make? I was, um, I was caught up 2385 02:29:07,710 --> 02:29:11,460 in my own personal whirlwind. You know, I'm the why was my 2386 02:29:11,460 --> 02:29:14,340 breakout role. I didn't you know, I didn't handle my wasn't 2387 02:29:14,340 --> 02:29:19,020 handling my finances, or that that started them very well. You 2388 02:29:19,020 --> 02:29:22,050 know, people calling me Omar was having an effect on my psyche. 2389 02:29:22,470 --> 02:29:26,940 You know, I wasn't using my platform, the way I believe I'm 2390 02:29:26,970 --> 02:29:30,630 beginning to do today to help further my community. You know, 2391 02:29:30,660 --> 02:29:34,380 when President Obama called me out, basically, I had no 2392 02:29:34,380 --> 02:29:38,220 knowledge of anything that was going on, or I was one of those 2393 02:29:38,220 --> 02:29:41,760 people that pretty much went to sleep when when we elected him 2394 02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:44,010 into office, and I stopped caring. 2395 02:29:45,300 --> 02:29:49,530 Thanks, Obama. Interesting. 2396 02:29:50,850 --> 02:29:54,360 Is this thing like what made you would do it? I don't know. I 2397 02:29:54,360 --> 02:30:01,500 just want to do as a quick aside When black people have any 2398 02:30:01,500 --> 02:30:07,980 contact with Obama, it's like so your Obama moment? How was it? 2399 02:30:07,980 --> 02:30:13,500 Yeah, we me, how was it? I mean, it was alright. In the fact that 2400 02:30:13,500 --> 02:30:17,280 Obama didn't recognize Michael K. Williams. He recognized his 2401 02:30:17,280 --> 02:30:22,020 character, but he's like, how's it feel for Obama to recognize 2402 02:30:22,020 --> 02:30:25,650 you? Like, seriously? Tell me Gosh, it's my okay. I mean, 2403 02:30:25,650 --> 02:30:30,090 like, it's just when you heard it, you heard it before, right? 2404 02:30:30,090 --> 02:30:33,480 The same thing with Obama likes you. You like that's like their 2405 02:30:33,510 --> 02:30:35,460 stamp of approval or something 2406 02:30:36,300 --> 02:30:38,670 that you've been, you've been blessed. You've been touched by 2407 02:30:38,670 --> 02:30:39,510 His Holiness. 2408 02:30:40,020 --> 02:30:42,540 Right? It's kind of like when Oprah will say something about 2409 02:30:42,540 --> 02:30:47,910 your product right? by it, yeah. Kind of the same thing. But that 2410 02:30:47,910 --> 02:30:50,580 didn't last long. But I just found that weird. They would. 2411 02:30:51,090 --> 02:30:55,110 They constantly did this and clips of like, a talk about 2412 02:30:55,110 --> 02:31:00,000 Obama. Obama. I'm here to talk about my show where he was there 2413 02:31:00,000 --> 02:31:03,660 to talk about a juvenile justice. And he had gotten 2414 02:31:04,110 --> 02:31:08,160 involved in I don't wanna say politics, their policies. He was 2415 02:31:08,160 --> 02:31:11,160 trying to get people to vote, but that was like their thing 2416 02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:13,050 like Omar Omar can reach him. 2417 02:31:14,040 --> 02:31:18,630 Oh, of course, it mean, Ari. Melbourne, is a political 2418 02:31:18,630 --> 02:31:22,950 operative. Correct. So that's, that's why they bring up you 2419 02:31:22,950 --> 02:31:25,830 know, it's talking about Ari's boss. That's really what's going 2420 02:31:25,830 --> 02:31:26,160 on. 2421 02:31:26,699 --> 02:31:30,389 Yeah, by any means is necessary that are you he'll try to get 2422 02:31:30,389 --> 02:31:34,379 you to this year, to a certain point. But if we're going to 2423 02:31:34,379 --> 02:31:38,699 talk Why are we taught wire? So this is just as we talked about 2424 02:31:38,699 --> 02:31:41,549 Baltimore, in the last segment, I thought we had to tie 2425 02:31:41,549 --> 02:31:46,259 Baltimore in with this because Baltimore was a character itself 2426 02:31:46,349 --> 02:31:49,709 in the show the wire right I mean, the city itself horse 2427 02:31:49,979 --> 02:31:54,149 character, hmm. So this is probably one of the best 2428 02:31:54,149 --> 02:31:58,739 supporting actors or supporting characters for the size and role 2429 02:31:58,739 --> 02:32:02,519 here in any television show was clay Davis. 2430 02:32:05,550 --> 02:32:08,250 I know he was good enough to let us stage in the council, sweetly 2431 02:32:08,250 --> 02:32:09,240 inaugurations, 2432 02:32:09,540 --> 02:32:15,900 no data to find showing in the general no doubt 81% 82 in a 2433 02:32:15,900 --> 02:32:19,140 city where Democrats outnumber republicans not in what 2434 02:32:19,170 --> 02:32:25,410 anything less would have been an embarrassment. So what can we do 2435 02:32:25,410 --> 02:32:28,500 for you, Senator? Well, 2436 02:32:29,010 --> 02:32:33,450 first of all, I wanted to clear the air. If there are any hard 2437 02:32:33,450 --> 02:32:35,880 feelings over what happened during the primaries, you're 2438 02:32:35,880 --> 02:32:44,700 going to give the money back. It's been a very long day. Cut 2439 02:32:44,700 --> 02:32:49,560 to the chase. Understand you have a problem at the top of the 2440 02:32:49,560 --> 02:32:53,730 police department. You asked Burrell to resign he declined. 2441 02:32:55,380 --> 02:32:58,230 I'm looking for a replacement. The ministers like Burrell 2442 02:32:59,070 --> 02:33:02,160 soldiers council president, we're confident that when we 2443 02:33:02,160 --> 02:33:06,150 identify a suitable candidate, Miss Campbell and the ministers 2444 02:33:06,150 --> 02:33:10,410 will see the wisdom of new leadership. So we are need to 2445 02:33:10,410 --> 02:33:16,110 get a pay raise through the city council pay raise would help. I 2446 02:33:16,110 --> 02:33:19,740 can ask the Reese about that pay raise getting passed, maybe 2447 02:33:19,740 --> 02:33:23,610 convince some of the ministers they need to move on from the 2448 02:33:23,610 --> 02:33:30,450 rail. situation we have to be resolved sooner rather than 2449 02:33:30,450 --> 02:33:37,140 later. do my best partner. And what do we do for you in return? 2450 02:33:39,630 --> 02:33:43,620 I'm in Annapolis. Word I'm hearing you may be there too. 2451 02:33:43,620 --> 02:33:47,460 And a couple of years. we may find ourselves working together 2452 02:33:47,460 --> 02:34:01,140 closely. Thanks for your time. Jesus Christ apologizes for the 2453 02:34:01,140 --> 02:34:04,170 short card. And in the next breath and the sound for the 2454 02:34:04,170 --> 02:34:08,940 law. humoristic is the ease and we know what the long con is. At 2455 02:34:08,940 --> 02:34:18,780 least we know we've run in what she Yeah. 2456 02:34:19,740 --> 02:34:22,380 One of the greatest catchphrases from a television show as well. 2457 02:34:22,380 --> 02:34:26,130 But yeah, this clip this might embody what the wire was about 2458 02:34:26,130 --> 02:34:29,070 the ministers and the politicians in the streets and 2459 02:34:29,370 --> 02:34:35,280 how they all interconnected in this little Baltimore, um, to be 2460 02:34:35,280 --> 02:34:39,330 a major city is small. But that's that was the greatness of 2461 02:34:39,330 --> 02:34:43,620 the show. But I have this clip that I found when I was doing 2462 02:34:43,620 --> 02:34:51,030 the Henrietta Lacks segment. And tario patella. On actually how 2463 02:34:51,030 --> 02:34:52,590 Baltimore worked in this way. 2464 02:34:53,220 --> 02:34:56,340 I wanted I one of the other really fascinating things in 2465 02:34:56,340 --> 02:34:59,970 your book. You talk about the history of policing involved. 2466 02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:03,900 More. And you you've said, You told me before the interview 2467 02:35:03,900 --> 02:35:06,930 that you sort of see some parallels today, we might be 2468 02:35:06,930 --> 02:35:10,710 under a new age of surveillance. You know that if it's not 2469 02:35:10,710 --> 02:35:13,200 already started today and and I think one of the most 2470 02:35:13,230 --> 02:35:18,690 fascinating things in your book, you talk about how the the so 2471 02:35:18,690 --> 02:35:23,070 the Baltimore chapter of the Black Panther Party was actually 2472 02:35:23,070 --> 02:35:27,900 started as part of a cointelpro operation, which is run by the 2473 02:35:27,900 --> 02:35:33,750 FBI to sort of sort of infiltrate the national chapter, 2474 02:35:33,750 --> 02:35:35,700 which was based in Chicago and in Oakland, 2475 02:35:35,730 --> 02:35:40,620 right. And so so what happened was that an army veteran who had 2476 02:35:40,620 --> 02:35:45,300 joined the National Security Agency, which had built a new 2477 02:35:45,300 --> 02:35:49,740 headquarters near Baltimore, was sent here to create a Black 2478 02:35:49,740 --> 02:35:55,320 Panther Party in Baltimore. But the interesting thing about that 2479 02:35:55,320 --> 02:35:59,280 kind of surveillance was that what I just talked about was an 2480 02:35:59,280 --> 02:36:03,780 FBI operation. What also happened at the same time was 2481 02:36:03,780 --> 02:36:07,170 that there was a very significant penetration of the 2482 02:36:07,170 --> 02:36:11,100 activist scene in Baltimore by the Baltimore City Police 2483 02:36:11,100 --> 02:36:15,390 Department. And this also has some political implications 2484 02:36:15,390 --> 02:36:20,520 because a crucial election came in Baltimore in 1971 mayoral 2485 02:36:20,550 --> 02:36:25,470 election, and so so for for the police department did a 2486 02:36:25,470 --> 02:36:31,440 penetrate the the campaign's of William Donald shaffers, to 2487 02:36:31,440 --> 02:36:35,790 black opponents, and then fed all that surveillance 2488 02:36:35,790 --> 02:36:40,800 information to his campaign. And at the same time, the police 2489 02:36:40,800 --> 02:36:44,220 department also had under surveillance, many of the 2490 02:36:44,220 --> 02:36:47,130 aspiring black office seekers 2491 02:36:48,150 --> 02:36:50,040 felt the wire was a documentary. 2492 02:36:52,740 --> 02:36:56,460 So many truth bombs. That's just insane, isn't it? Especially 2493 02:36:56,460 --> 02:36:59,250 with the surveillance? Well, that's why I put that in. Yeah. 2494 02:36:59,970 --> 02:37:00,930 Wire pairs, 2495 02:37:00,990 --> 02:37:05,670 they were it was just to be Wow, always be on camera. I mean, 2496 02:37:05,700 --> 02:37:09,780 they lived their lives under 24 hour surveillance. And they 2497 02:37:09,780 --> 02:37:12,420 actually had this story come out of Baltimore, how they were 2498 02:37:12,420 --> 02:37:22,050 using drones to to surveil Baltimore. So it's crazy, right, 2499 02:37:22,050 --> 02:37:27,630 then they use the Black Panther Party. Yes. The cointelpro more. 2500 02:37:29,370 --> 02:37:31,770 Which makes you look at the Baltimore riots differently. 2501 02:37:31,890 --> 02:37:34,050 When I when I heard that, I was like, Huh, oh, 2502 02:37:34,500 --> 02:37:38,760 who knows? Who knows? Again, we're living in a simulation. 2503 02:37:38,910 --> 02:37:43,140 Totally. I mean, this stuff is really happening, but it's not 2504 02:37:43,140 --> 02:37:44,610 exactly what you think it is. 2505 02:37:44,970 --> 02:37:47,280 I thought that was too good to leave on the class. Great. 2506 02:37:49,230 --> 02:37:49,770 Appreciate, but 2507 02:37:49,770 --> 02:37:53,310 now we get because it's pertinent. But can you do me one 2508 02:37:53,310 --> 02:37:59,580 favor, and go search by the next clip on YouTube search by that 2509 02:37:59,580 --> 02:38:03,030 title? And you're gonna get it, I forgot to send you the 2510 02:38:03,030 --> 02:38:09,870 screenshot. But I want you to see the picture of Michael K. 2511 02:38:09,870 --> 02:38:13,590 Williams, and the what the pictures is in the chair on the 2512 02:38:13,590 --> 02:38:15,900 left hand side of him, why you could do it while we're playing 2513 02:38:15,900 --> 02:38:18,000 this next clip, but okay, if you could 2514 02:38:18,900 --> 02:38:22,770 feel by the brokers, quite frankly, made me sick to my 2515 02:38:22,770 --> 02:38:27,900 stomach. When I I was ignorant to the narrative and the subject 2516 02:38:27,930 --> 02:38:31,710 of what this movie was was addressing. And I remember 2517 02:38:31,710 --> 02:38:34,830 personally, you know, one of those many nights when I was 2518 02:38:34,830 --> 02:38:38,700 crying myself to sleep, listen to BB cc line is I with I would 2519 02:38:38,700 --> 02:38:42,660 see these these commercials about the, you know, these 2520 02:38:42,900 --> 02:38:47,490 elaborate beautiful recovery centers, you know, mostly most 2521 02:38:47,490 --> 02:38:50,250 of them within Malibu, and I would, I would say, Man, if I 2522 02:38:50,250 --> 02:38:53,220 could get there, maybe I could just get my life together. And 2523 02:38:53,220 --> 02:38:58,380 to think that that was never really the that was never the 2524 02:38:58,380 --> 02:38:59,100 intent. Yeah. 2525 02:38:59,160 --> 02:39:01,800 And that's what the movie explores is, you know, we talked 2526 02:39:01,800 --> 02:39:05,610 about the amount of profit that people make selling drugs, but 2527 02:39:05,610 --> 02:39:09,540 there is money also in the rehab process, as well, where people 2528 02:39:09,540 --> 02:39:12,600 exploit folks trying to get help this you have this pivotal 2529 02:39:12,600 --> 02:39:16,560 moment that happened in your life that involved in senator 2530 02:39:16,560 --> 02:39:20,040 brock obama on the campaign trail since 2008. And that's 2531 02:39:20,040 --> 02:39:21,930 actually what I just interviewed him and met him as well. I'm 2532 02:39:21,930 --> 02:39:25,230 living in Chicago, and he's got this book of hope and all these 2533 02:39:25,230 --> 02:39:29,490 things. And you said that I just didn't feel worthy of meeting 2534 02:39:29,490 --> 02:39:33,690 this man. You're in the room, you're there for a reason, but 2535 02:39:33,690 --> 02:39:35,310 you didn't feel worthy. 2536 02:39:35,340 --> 02:39:39,990 Why the impact of my ignorance, actually and, you know, it was 2537 02:39:39,990 --> 02:39:45,330 like, Well, how does the future president of free world you 2538 02:39:45,330 --> 02:39:48,990 know, see me what makes him watch the wire? And more 2539 02:39:48,990 --> 02:39:53,100 importantly, how come I don't know who he is? How come I don't 2540 02:39:53,100 --> 02:39:54,090 know what he's about. 2541 02:40:02,370 --> 02:40:07,170 Nobody knows Obama. Nobody knew who Obama was prior to 2542 02:40:07,170 --> 02:40:08,760 2007 2008. 2543 02:40:08,790 --> 02:40:13,230 I was just talking about that at dinner. I said, you know, one 2544 02:40:13,230 --> 02:40:16,410 term senator, we don't have any of his records. We can't find 2545 02:40:16,410 --> 02:40:19,350 anyone who actually attended a class that he taught 2546 02:40:19,350 --> 02:40:24,990 constitutional law. Been. Everything's been locked up. We 2547 02:40:24,990 --> 02:40:26,340 don't really think about that guy. 2548 02:40:27,060 --> 02:40:28,380 So did you see the picture? 2549 02:40:29,460 --> 02:40:31,890 Are you talking about the picture of him with the Kings 2550 02:40:31,890 --> 02:40:33,480 County? New York t shirt? 2551 02:40:33,960 --> 02:40:37,740 No. Is that will it look over to the left hand side where he's in 2552 02:40:37,740 --> 02:40:41,820 frame? It's a picture on the chair to the left hand side. 2553 02:40:41,820 --> 02:40:42,510 Yeah, 2554 02:40:42,510 --> 02:40:46,440 there's like a dude like a What can I see here? Yeah, guys. 2555 02:40:48,420 --> 02:40:54,480 Enhance rotate. Zoom. Okay. It's I'm at Mac zoom. 2556 02:40:54,990 --> 02:40:57,150 Is that Obama kissing him? 2557 02:40:57,660 --> 02:41:01,440 Oh, no, that's not what I'm seeing. Hold on. This must be 2558 02:41:01,440 --> 02:41:04,260 something else on a second. So it's in. We don't 2559 02:41:04,260 --> 02:41:07,770 want to belabor the point. But are you kidding me? If If Omar 2560 02:41:07,770 --> 02:41:08,010 is 2561 02:41:08,010 --> 02:41:11,100 kissing Barack, I got this is worth stopping the whole damn 2562 02:41:11,100 --> 02:41:14,640 show for hold on us. Oh, oh, I got it. I got it. I got it. I 2563 02:41:14,640 --> 02:41:20,880 gotta get home. Now that's not Brock. You sure? 2564 02:41:23,130 --> 02:41:26,280 I couldn't make it out. That's why I didn't ask the question. 2565 02:41:27,240 --> 02:41:31,050 Um, why would you have that picture sitting on the chair and 2566 02:41:31,050 --> 02:41:32,550 that signature looks like the 2567 02:41:32,550 --> 02:41:35,760 end. This signature does look a little bit like, you know what, 2568 02:41:35,790 --> 02:41:38,760 I can't zoom in enough now. But that is definitely going to the 2569 02:41:38,760 --> 02:41:42,990 lab. And I'm gonna I'm gonna put this in the show notes. 2570 02:41:43,440 --> 02:41:47,550 Everyone's got a Yeah, but it is it's just laying there on the 2571 02:41:47,550 --> 02:41:49,920 chair. Like it's he did it on purpose. 2572 02:41:50,160 --> 02:41:53,370 Right. Wow. That would be a weird picture anybody else to 2573 02:41:53,370 --> 02:41:57,990 have in the frame? It's like a you got me Got me. Oh, by Barry. 2574 02:41:57,990 --> 02:42:00,000 Oh, memorabilia. 2575 02:42:02,610 --> 02:42:04,980 Wow, that's crazy. 2576 02:42:05,580 --> 02:42:09,090 I know people are asking me why berrio Why Why are you stressing 2577 02:42:09,090 --> 02:42:12,570 brock obama with him? Right? Well, he had this movie called 2578 02:42:13,770 --> 02:42:21,870 body brokers. And in the movie, it covers the the loopholes 2579 02:42:21,870 --> 02:42:27,450 created in the rehab system. And with the ACA, also known as the 2580 02:42:27,480 --> 02:42:28,410 Obamacare. 2581 02:42:30,330 --> 02:42:32,430 The Affordable Care Act. Yeah, uh huh. 2582 02:42:33,210 --> 02:42:39,150 Yes. So you, you want to get your strikes? Yes. 2583 02:42:39,150 --> 02:42:40,680 Yes, stop teasing. 2584 02:42:42,210 --> 02:42:46,950 I'm going to let you in on a little secret. In 2008, when the 2585 02:42:46,950 --> 02:42:49,800 Affordable Care Act was designed, it required every 2586 02:42:49,800 --> 02:42:52,800 health care provider to cover substance abuse treatment, as 2587 02:42:52,800 --> 02:42:56,340 right since the bill was passed in early 2000s. sober livings, 2588 02:42:56,340 --> 02:42:59,970 100 inpatient treatment centers and 200, detoxes have opened up 2589 02:42:59,970 --> 02:43:05,730 shop. Just in Southern California alone. Yeah, business 2590 02:43:05,730 --> 02:43:09,870 is fucking for me. That's nearly 35,000 beds that need to be 2591 02:43:09,870 --> 02:43:12,930 filled each month, and almost half a million that need to be 2592 02:43:12,930 --> 02:43:16,260 filled a year. Off the top of my head, that's somewhere around 2593 02:43:16,290 --> 02:43:19,800 $12 billion dollars annually. And again, that's just in 2594 02:43:19,800 --> 02:43:23,100 Southern California. This is what we in the treatment 2595 02:43:23,100 --> 02:43:30,450 industry called the fucking Gold Rush. yellow gold. You probably 2596 02:43:30,450 --> 02:43:33,360 wouldn't believe it. pison This cup is worth more than an ounce 2597 02:43:33,360 --> 02:43:37,410 of white truffle, Beluga caviar, platinum, gold or even rhino 2598 02:43:37,410 --> 02:43:43,680 horn. Each cup of peerspace $2,000. And each client can test 2599 02:43:43,680 --> 02:43:48,960 up to five times a week. Do the math. That's $10,000. A fucking 2600 02:43:48,960 --> 02:43:56,070 week off this. There are three phases of treatment. detox, we 2601 02:43:56,070 --> 02:43:59,430 generally Bill 4000 a day for the typical state being between 2602 02:43:59,430 --> 02:44:04,380 seven and 10 days. next phase was residential. The average 2603 02:44:04,380 --> 02:44:12,000 days 60 days at $2,000 a day. Lastly, is outpatient. We built 2604 02:44:12,030 --> 02:44:18,390 20 $500 a day for this. Based on a 90 day program, detox 2605 02:44:18,390 --> 02:44:23,100 residential intensive outpatient anyways, that's 300,000 per 2606 02:44:23,100 --> 02:44:29,820 person per 90 days. somewhere like new West has 60 million 2607 02:44:29,820 --> 02:44:34,650 billed every quarter and wait for it 72 million build a year. 2608 02:44:35,040 --> 02:44:37,770 You fucking heard me 72 million. 2609 02:44:40,050 --> 02:44:44,160 So not only do I remember that. I actually remember the whole 2610 02:44:44,250 --> 02:44:47,340 controversy about that. And everyone's like what is going on 2611 02:44:47,340 --> 02:44:53,040 is printing money. It was in the first year. So two is really 2612 02:44:53,040 --> 02:44:55,260 quick right off the bat this first term. 2613 02:44:56,009 --> 02:45:02,219 Where else is testing being big now? Correct. Coronavirus every 2614 02:45:02,219 --> 02:45:08,339 employee has to be tested. That's a weak same damn scam. 2615 02:45:08,369 --> 02:45:12,989 Well you also know who recently bought a testing company. Our 2616 02:45:12,989 --> 02:45:17,549 guest Bill Gates, George Soros yes actually together the two of 2617 02:45:17,549 --> 02:45:19,109 them together bought that 2618 02:45:19,410 --> 02:45:23,040 the testing is worth more because she is no no no, we 2619 02:45:23,040 --> 02:45:25,680 don't want you to take the vaccine as a one time thing. No, 2620 02:45:25,680 --> 02:45:26,550 no, no, no, 2621 02:45:26,580 --> 02:45:30,600 I have. So I had to travel to Europe to see my daughter and 2622 02:45:30,780 --> 02:45:35,430 because of the three day rule 72 hours and I was worried I did 2623 02:45:35,430 --> 02:45:39,330 one on Saturday one on Sunday. And I had to drive to carville's 2624 02:45:39,330 --> 02:45:46,050 like piece of crap town to the CVS First of all, the test was 2625 02:45:46,050 --> 02:45:51,060 drive thru so you drive up, give him your your, your assurance 2626 02:45:51,060 --> 02:45:55,020 card, and you have to understand I have hi Oscar is the name of 2627 02:45:55,020 --> 02:45:59,880 my insurance like it's disaster insurance because it's, I'm just 2628 02:45:59,880 --> 02:46:03,480 not gonna throw money away so I have like an $8,000 deductible. 2629 02:46:05,040 --> 02:46:07,230 So I give her that and she give me the bags. Okay, here it is. 2630 02:46:07,230 --> 02:46:09,900 Just go ahead and park in the parking lot. swab your nose and 2631 02:46:09,900 --> 02:46:12,360 drive through again and drop it off. So the first thing is like, 2632 02:46:12,390 --> 02:46:16,290 wow, okay, so this is for a document that is supposedly 2633 02:46:16,350 --> 02:46:19,860 going to allow me to enter into the European Union and I can 2634 02:46:19,860 --> 02:46:23,100 just stick it under my armpit and throw it into the test tube. 2635 02:46:23,100 --> 02:46:28,950 Okay. today or yesterday, I got the I got the receipts for the 2636 02:46:28,980 --> 02:46:36,360 for the insurance. Both are paid in full. You know, the you know, 2637 02:46:36,360 --> 02:46:39,750 who's paying for your you know, who's paying it? Right. It's not 2638 02:46:39,750 --> 02:46:40,590 CVS. 2639 02:46:42,510 --> 02:46:47,970 every employer has to have one test. per employee. Yeah. A 2640 02:46:47,970 --> 02:46:48,540 week. 2641 02:46:49,380 --> 02:46:52,470 Oh, yeah. No, I've done the numbers. The Presidents Oh, we 2642 02:46:52,470 --> 02:46:55,350 got 80 billion tests. Yeah, that'll last America about three 2643 02:46:55,350 --> 02:46:58,380 weeks. Right. We're not impressed with your 80 million 2644 02:46:58,380 --> 02:46:59,130 tests. 2645 02:46:59,340 --> 02:47:02,610 So we saw this. We saw this done before this game. I mean, he 2646 02:47:02,610 --> 02:47:04,230 called it the yellow gold. 2647 02:47:05,310 --> 02:47:11,670 liquid gold. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, and these are agendas. The Vax 2648 02:47:11,670 --> 02:47:15,330 pressure to roll out is more the pharmaceutical industry than the 2649 02:47:15,870 --> 02:47:18,690 then government Believe it or not, it all works. 2650 02:47:19,080 --> 02:47:22,530 This case. Yes. Same way with this case, my Hey, let's get the 2651 02:47:22,530 --> 02:47:25,830 addicks and the thing was they would tell the you know us that 2652 02:47:25,830 --> 02:47:29,190 we're no respectfully at it, but they will tell them recovering 2653 02:47:29,190 --> 02:47:31,110 addicts, or you gotta come in dirty. 2654 02:47:32,820 --> 02:47:35,640 scam to work. Yeah. Wow. encouraging 2655 02:47:35,640 --> 02:47:38,670 them to go back and I will be doing a deeper dive on this. But 2656 02:47:38,670 --> 02:47:40,770 I just wanted to bring that up. But since we're talking about 2657 02:47:41,100 --> 02:47:43,890 this is AJ type of show. Dirty man. 2658 02:47:43,949 --> 02:47:47,099 The FBI calls people running these businesses quote, body 2659 02:47:47,099 --> 02:47:50,819 brokers, people who traffic body parts and tissue from dead 2660 02:47:50,819 --> 02:47:53,519 people. Now this is a search warrant for the biological 2661 02:47:53,519 --> 02:47:56,909 Resource Center of Illinois. But in these pages, it spells out 2662 02:47:56,909 --> 02:48:00,329 details of what investigators say they found here in Arizona. 2663 02:48:00,509 --> 02:48:04,769 The FBI says at least 20 bodies donated to biological Resource 2664 02:48:04,769 --> 02:48:09,569 Center and sold to another body supplier had infectious diseases 2665 02:48:09,569 --> 02:48:14,669 things like Hepatitis B and C mersa, meningitis, sepsis, even 2666 02:48:14,699 --> 02:48:18,839 HIV. Those remains were sent to surgical training workshops 2667 02:48:18,839 --> 02:48:21,539 where workers told investigators they never would have used in 2668 02:48:21,539 --> 02:48:24,659 best infected body parts had they known. We talked to a woman 2669 02:48:24,659 --> 02:48:27,719 who said she had planned to donate to BRC, even though she 2670 02:48:27,719 --> 02:48:30,959 had cancer and was part of a hepatitis outbreak as a kid she 2671 02:48:30,959 --> 02:48:33,959 was shocked to hear they might be passing off diseased parts as 2672 02:48:33,959 --> 02:48:34,499 healthy. 2673 02:48:35,640 --> 02:48:38,370 I don't want to make anybody sick can't imagine it being 2674 02:48:38,370 --> 02:48:43,770 true. But I'm not naive people will make $1 any way they can. 2675 02:48:44,490 --> 02:48:46,680 Okay, so she knows but Elizabeth did the donors and their 2676 02:48:46,680 --> 02:48:49,260 families know what these remains would be used for 2677 02:48:49,260 --> 02:48:51,090 according to the Warrens. Stephanie the families were told 2678 02:48:51,090 --> 02:48:54,540 their donations would not be sold But investigators say they 2679 02:48:54,540 --> 02:48:58,560 discovered body parts were sold at times for 1000s of dollars 2680 02:48:58,560 --> 02:49:01,650 you know a lot of this is really unbelievable what's legal what 2681 02:49:01,680 --> 02:49:02,520 isn't legal? 2682 02:49:02,640 --> 02:49:05,550 Well it might shock you but it isn't illegal to trafficking 2683 02:49:05,550 --> 02:49:08,640 body's organs and tissues of dead people. It crosses the line 2684 02:49:08,640 --> 02:49:11,100 though when those donation centers say they have the donors 2685 02:49:11,100 --> 02:49:14,160 permission to use the remains in a way that they do not 2686 02:49:16,320 --> 02:49:17,190 sound familiar? 2687 02:49:18,390 --> 02:49:21,270 Yes, it does. It does it does 2688 02:49:21,869 --> 02:49:25,409 Johns Hopkins a body broker by definition 2689 02:49:26,099 --> 02:49:28,829 Oh totally and and I'm gonna just gonna throw Planned 2690 02:49:28,829 --> 02:49:31,979 Parenthood back out there again. Throw all that shit in there. Oh 2691 02:49:31,979 --> 02:49:34,739 my goodness. That's crazy. 2692 02:49:35,850 --> 02:49:38,640 Well, we don't broker in bodies over here. We make our money the 2693 02:49:38,640 --> 02:49:39,270 hard way. 2694 02:49:39,330 --> 02:49:42,120 I like money. I just I don't want any money around me is not 2695 02:49:43,770 --> 02:49:47,340 I'd almost rather have a new one than a brand and then an old 20 2696 02:49:48,120 --> 02:49:50,850 that's kind of dumb and but there's some bad new money that 2697 02:49:50,850 --> 02:49:57,540 excites you. Like $100 bills. The most beautiful thing on 2698 02:49:57,540 --> 02:50:00,180 earth is $100 bill I haven't seen a woman has good luck. Is 2699 02:50:01,530 --> 02:50:03,450 there something that excites you? 2700 02:50:04,110 --> 02:50:09,780 Yes, that is right. We liked the new money when that clip was 2701 02:50:09,780 --> 02:50:14,190 made $200 was worth a lot more than it is today. So that's a 2702 02:50:14,190 --> 02:50:16,590 consideration if you'd like to support this show with 2703 02:50:16,620 --> 02:50:19,860 podcasting 2.0 value for value streaming payments, get a new 2704 02:50:19,860 --> 02:50:24,330 podcast app at new podcast apps calm but we do have more people 2705 02:50:24,330 --> 02:50:27,990 to thank who sent us donations primarily through the links 2706 02:50:27,990 --> 02:50:31,620 found at mo facts calm the donation page, you can go to a 2707 02:50:31,620 --> 02:50:37,620 directly at mo fund me.com mo efund.com thanking a couple 2708 02:50:37,620 --> 02:50:43,080 producers here $40 from Eve, who says I think I got it this time 2709 02:50:43,080 --> 02:50:47,190 So Luke King was trying to figure this out. 2710 02:50:47,610 --> 02:50:51,510 She tried three times to send a donation I gotta give her you 2711 02:50:51,510 --> 02:50:55,410 know, effort, A for effort because she would not be 2712 02:50:55,410 --> 02:50:58,740 deterred for sending her value and so thank you a lot. 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Bringing enlightenment 2718 02:51:24,090 --> 02:51:27,960 and understanding to those who are ready to learn does take 2719 02:51:27,960 --> 02:51:32,460 that $25 from Douglas Engstrom says I watched a YouTube live 2720 02:51:32,460 --> 02:51:36,090 about the parolee being mandated take the vaccine in order to end 2721 02:51:36,090 --> 02:51:38,970 a sentence. what's to stop a judge from taking the next 2722 02:51:38,970 --> 02:51:41,220 logical step in my mind for medical procedures 2723 02:51:41,220 --> 02:51:44,580 sterilization, it could turn into eugenics progress towards 2724 02:51:44,580 --> 02:51:47,760 for the incarcerated these judges should be disbarred for 2725 02:51:47,760 --> 02:51:52,110 these tyrannical rulings. There is no difference and in fact it 2726 02:51:52,110 --> 02:51:56,640 wasn't even that long ago that we had medical sterilization as 2727 02:51:56,640 --> 02:51:58,260 punishment in the United States. 2728 02:51:59,460 --> 02:52:05,430 And is this as a little seven seven deputy the guy was in for 2729 02:52:05,430 --> 02:52:06,330 a fitting off selling 2730 02:52:07,980 --> 02:52:19,980 simple There you go. Crazy. Sure do. NET l airs the third $25 2731 02:52:20,010 --> 02:52:27,240 little something fam. Thank you. Trey Dre tinner comes in is tyri 2732 02:52:27,240 --> 02:52:33,000 showing support $25 Thank you Donald Davis. $20 Jay German 2733 02:52:33,000 --> 02:52:36,030 McLaren with the 20 and below we're just going to do the the 2734 02:52:36,030 --> 02:52:38,580 amounts and the names from now on just to keep keep the 2735 02:52:38,580 --> 02:52:45,240 segments to some decent length. If it James German, McLaren $20 2736 02:52:45,240 --> 02:52:48,960 in three donations Hey, hold on a second. Taylor Stagg three 2737 02:52:48,960 --> 02:52:51,780 times 20. Shouldn't we put Taylor up in the associate 2738 02:52:51,780 --> 02:52:53,220 executive producer Spano when 2739 02:52:53,220 --> 02:52:57,030 that got bought me Sorry, but because he came in three 2740 02:52:57,030 --> 02:52:58,350 different times. Yes. Yeah, 2741 02:52:58,410 --> 02:52:59,820 we'll make sure we do that. I'm 2742 02:52:59,820 --> 02:53:03,570 gonna put you there. Sorry about that. Taylor. Maybe we can read 2743 02:53:03,570 --> 02:53:05,910 some of his notes name as least give me their short 2744 02:53:06,510 --> 02:53:11,070 notes. Sorry. Disco biscuits sold the lemon and disco biscuit 2745 02:53:11,070 --> 02:53:14,190 discuss part two. He was trying to guess if there was going to 2746 02:53:14,190 --> 02:53:15,000 be a part two. 2747 02:53:15,360 --> 02:53:17,520 But no, not actually speaking from the YouTube. 2748 02:53:18,930 --> 02:53:20,850 Live. Oh, 2749 02:53:21,270 --> 02:53:23,520 I was alive. So how long? How long? 2750 02:53:23,790 --> 02:53:26,370 How long do you do the live was like two hours? Three hours? 2751 02:53:26,370 --> 02:53:26,700 Yes. 2752 02:53:26,730 --> 02:53:29,580 Right now it's no no, it's like, a little under two hours. 2753 02:53:30,450 --> 02:53:33,810 Now it's to do that on Saturday morning now. It's like I gotta 2754 02:53:33,810 --> 02:53:39,240 watch TV shows. I got my documentaries. Thanks, Mo. 2755 02:53:39,450 --> 02:53:44,670 Thanks a lot. Just tally $10. Thank you Elvis chef Ellsworth 2756 02:53:44,700 --> 02:53:49,740 Rosenberg. $10 Michael Hanna with 10 Andrea 10 Charles a fund 2757 02:53:49,740 --> 02:53:54,420 Asana 10. 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It doesn't matter what you send as long as the 2769 02:54:33,600 --> 02:54:37,260 number is meaningful to you that can be numerology can be the the 2770 02:54:37,260 --> 02:54:40,560 actual amount, whatever it is. That's how it works. You get 2771 02:54:40,560 --> 02:54:44,310 value you send it back, automate that with the podcast app, new 2772 02:54:44,310 --> 02:54:47,400 podcast apps calm thanks again for supporting and not just 2773 02:54:47,400 --> 02:54:50,940 doing that, but actually producing Episode 66 of mo facts 2774 02:54:50,940 --> 02:54:51,690 with Adam Curry. 2775 02:54:53,310 --> 02:54:58,650 You know, I had to do it. You know, I had to do it. The LG AJ. 2776 02:54:58,980 --> 02:55:01,650 I don't like I'm putting chemicals in the water they turn 2777 02:55:01,650 --> 02:55:02,640 the friggin frogs. 2778 02:55:05,850 --> 02:55:09,270 Can you say? Can I just say something about this? since we 2779 02:55:09,270 --> 02:55:13,860 moved out of Austin? We're 80 miles west. We have a well we 2780 02:55:13,860 --> 02:55:18,720 have well water. And I've had this plant called the money 2781 02:55:18,720 --> 02:55:22,920 plant might have my my agent 12 years ago gave it to me when I 2782 02:55:22,980 --> 02:55:27,900 used to my agent, guilt plant Adam, you love it. So I've kept 2783 02:55:27,900 --> 02:55:31,830 this thing with me for 12 years. It's it's been through for 2784 02:55:31,830 --> 02:55:34,890 marriage. It's been on the road with me touring in the 2785 02:55:34,890 --> 02:55:38,280 airstream. And I've always taken care of it. I love it. It's 2786 02:55:38,280 --> 02:55:42,060 called buzz name is plant plants around plant is in a similar 2787 02:55:42,060 --> 02:55:45,900 situation. But now it's being fed with the well water. Holy 2788 02:55:45,900 --> 02:55:52,200 crap. This thing's on fire now. Telling me the city water is 2789 02:55:52,200 --> 02:55:52,680 crap. 2790 02:55:56,550 --> 02:56:00,690 This is one of those means to say that this is a classic this 2791 02:56:00,690 --> 02:56:05,700 is this is the classic. This is a classic AJ. But there's some 2792 02:56:05,850 --> 02:56:09,840 there's some truth behind it, but we got to find it. So we got 2793 02:56:09,840 --> 02:56:13,680 to talk about Tyrone Hayes and him being targeted by the 2794 02:56:13,680 --> 02:56:14,760 herbicide firm. 2795 02:56:15,000 --> 02:56:17,970 Yes, now we turn to the story of a university of california 2796 02:56:17,970 --> 02:56:20,970 scientists who discovered that a popular herbicide may have 2797 02:56:21,300 --> 02:56:25,140 harmful effects on the endocrine system. Tyrone Hayes was first 2798 02:56:25,140 --> 02:56:30,120 hired in 1997 by a company that later became agribusiness giant 2799 02:56:30,120 --> 02:56:33,660 Syngenta. They asked him to study their product, their 2800 02:56:33,660 --> 02:56:38,250 product Atrazine, pesticides, more than half the corn crops in 2801 02:56:38,250 --> 02:56:41,760 the United States and widely used on golf courses and 2802 02:56:41,760 --> 02:56:46,410 Christmas tree farms. But after Hayes found results that the 2803 02:56:46,410 --> 02:56:50,160 manufacturer did not expect that Atrazine causes sexual 2804 02:56:50,160 --> 02:56:53,130 abnormalities in frogs and could cause the same problems for 2805 02:56:53,130 --> 02:56:57,120 humans. Syngenta refused to allow him to publish his work. 2806 02:56:57,390 --> 02:57:00,990 This was the start of an epic feud between the scientist and 2807 02:57:00,990 --> 02:57:01,800 the corporation. 2808 02:57:01,830 --> 02:57:05,370 Now a new article on New Yorker magazine uses court documents 2809 02:57:05,370 --> 02:57:08,550 from a class action lawsuit against Syngenta to show how it 2810 02:57:08,550 --> 02:57:10,860 sought to prevent the Environmental Protection Agency 2811 02:57:10,860 --> 02:57:13,740 from banning the profitable chemical, which is already 2812 02:57:13,740 --> 02:57:18,060 banned by the European Union. To start with the company's public 2813 02:57:18,060 --> 02:57:21,870 relations team drafted a list of four goals reporter Rachel Aviv 2814 02:57:22,020 --> 02:57:26,040 writes quote, The first was, quote discredit Hayes in a 2815 02:57:26,040 --> 02:57:29,070 spiral bound notebooks and generous Communications Manager 2816 02:57:29,070 --> 02:57:32,640 Sherry Ford, who referred to Hayes by his initials, wrote 2817 02:57:32,640 --> 02:57:38,010 that the company could prevent citing of th data by revealing 2818 02:57:38,010 --> 02:57:41,340 him as non credible he was a frequent topic of conversation 2819 02:57:41,340 --> 02:57:44,820 at company meetings and gentle look for ways to exploit Hayes 2820 02:57:44,820 --> 02:57:49,680 faults problems. If th involved in scandal. enviros will drop 2821 02:57:49,680 --> 02:57:50,760 him Ford road. 2822 02:57:51,180 --> 02:57:54,840 Yep, the good old Atrazine followed it for quite a while. 2823 02:57:55,710 --> 02:57:57,390 Did you follow Tyrone Hayes? 2824 02:57:57,540 --> 02:58:00,870 Not at all? Never it? Never. Of course. I 2825 02:58:00,870 --> 02:58:02,130 mean, of course. 2826 02:58:03,690 --> 02:58:05,070 Well, no, I didn't mean it that way. 2827 02:58:11,670 --> 02:58:16,590 Of course, not. Never, never we put you know, we talked about 2828 02:58:16,590 --> 02:58:19,770 Atrazine on no agenda for several years. silenced. Of 2829 02:58:19,770 --> 02:58:22,470 course, he was totally crap. 2830 02:58:22,590 --> 02:58:24,600 I thought you had to trust the science. 2831 02:58:25,710 --> 02:58:28,710 Now, not when there's money involved. That's my 2832 02:58:28,710 --> 02:58:32,970 point. Here's the black man telling people that they're 2833 02:58:32,970 --> 02:58:38,910 frauds are gay. And they silenced him. Oh, man. You want 2834 02:58:38,910 --> 02:58:40,380 to hear more about Tyrone? Yes, 2835 02:58:40,380 --> 02:58:43,890 yes. Once or twice? We'll stop teasing. It's not fun when you 2836 02:58:43,890 --> 02:58:47,100 do that. Yes, you know, I do you know? 2837 02:58:48,180 --> 02:58:52,260 Well, here at Berkeley, I was a new assistant professor. I was 2838 02:58:52,260 --> 02:58:55,230 already studying the effects of hormones and effects of 2839 02:58:55,470 --> 02:58:57,540 chemicals that interfere with hormones and amphibian 2840 02:58:57,540 --> 02:59:00,300 development. And I was approached by the manufacturer 2841 02:59:00,300 --> 02:59:03,810 and asked to study the effects of Atrazine, the herbicide on 2842 02:59:03,810 --> 02:59:07,650 frogs, and after it sub discovered that it interfered 2843 02:59:07,650 --> 02:59:11,430 with male development and caused males to turn into females to 2844 02:59:11,430 --> 02:59:15,270 develop eggs. The company tried to prevent me from publishing 2845 02:59:15,270 --> 02:59:18,420 and from discussing that work with other scientists outside of 2846 02:59:18,420 --> 02:59:22,350 their panels. Well, initially, we found that the larynx or the 2847 02:59:22,350 --> 02:59:26,280 voice box in exposed males didn't grow properly. And this 2848 02:59:26,280 --> 02:59:29,430 was an indication that the male hormone testosterone was not 2849 02:59:29,430 --> 02:59:33,780 being produced at appropriate levels. And eventually, we found 2850 02:59:33,780 --> 02:59:36,540 that not only that were these males, D masking alized or 2851 02:59:36,720 --> 02:59:40,680 chemically castrated, but they also were starting to develop 2852 02:59:40,680 --> 02:59:43,530 ovaries are starting to develop eggs. And eventually, we 2853 02:59:43,530 --> 02:59:47,250 discovered that these males didn't breed properly, that some 2854 02:59:47,250 --> 02:59:50,280 of the males actually completely turned into females. So we had 2855 02:59:50,280 --> 02:59:53,340 genetic males that were laying eggs and reproducing as females. 2856 02:59:53,610 --> 02:59:55,710 And now we're starting to show that some of these males 2857 02:59:55,710 --> 02:59:59,670 actually show I guess, what we call homosexual behavior. They 2858 02:59:59,670 --> 03:00:03,120 actually I prefer to meet with other males. So one of the most 2859 03:00:03,120 --> 03:00:06,210 disheartening things in this whole process is that many of my 2860 03:00:06,210 --> 03:00:08,640 critics, you know, it's want to be academic if you come and say, 2861 03:00:08,640 --> 03:00:11,370 well we interpreted the data this way and we want to argue 2862 03:00:11,370 --> 03:00:14,070 about this point but these people really didn't even have 2863 03:00:14,340 --> 03:00:17,520 an opinion this these opinions were written by the manufacturer 2864 03:00:17,520 --> 03:00:21,000 and they were paid to put their names on it to endorse the 2865 03:00:21,000 --> 03:00:23,640 opinions of the manufacturer so you know, that's one of the most 2866 03:00:23,640 --> 03:00:26,430 disheartening things if they were really just personalities 2867 03:00:26,610 --> 03:00:27,360 for sale 2868 03:00:28,710 --> 03:00:31,110 Yeah, personalities for sale 2869 03:00:31,470 --> 03:00:38,160 personalities for sale what is their goal here? You know, I'm 2870 03:00:38,190 --> 03:00:42,090 like you have this black scientists from the University 2871 03:00:42,090 --> 03:00:46,950 of California Berkeley are accredited did the work had the 2872 03:00:46,950 --> 03:00:51,300 scientific proof and they set out to destroy him? Because they 2873 03:00:51,300 --> 03:00:58,350 didn't like his narrative and he went and played ball well, it's 2874 03:00:58,380 --> 03:01:05,940 so i i don't think that they that this was purely profit 2875 03:01:05,940 --> 03:01:12,780 driven. I'm going to initially presume be accused of After all, 2876 03:01:12,780 --> 03:01:19,290 it was a it was a about frogs. It was an amphibious steady, and 2877 03:01:19,320 --> 03:01:22,530 they just don't want any negative any negative noise. And 2878 03:01:22,560 --> 03:01:27,240 so I don't think it was killed to turn children gay turn 2879 03:01:27,240 --> 03:01:31,320 Jamboree. No, but believe me, believe me, I got a look at all 2880 03:01:31,320 --> 03:01:32,940 these all these angles. 2881 03:01:33,660 --> 03:01:37,890 Right. But what I'm saying is even his blackness when he in if 2882 03:01:37,890 --> 03:01:42,000 you look at Tyrone, um, he showed up with like a lavender 2883 03:01:42,000 --> 03:01:46,680 and black, black plaid jacket. And he you know, he seemed 2884 03:01:46,800 --> 03:01:49,620 somewhat feminine. I'm not making no making any assumptions 2885 03:01:49,620 --> 03:01:56,130 about him. But it's like, you say if he was no gay, gay and 2886 03:01:56,130 --> 03:02:00,000 black couldn't even protect him from being harassed and silent. 2887 03:02:00,000 --> 03:02:03,180 Right, right. When it comes to the green. It doesn't matter how 2888 03:02:03,180 --> 03:02:07,470 many frogs folks, when it comes to the green. Nobody save. You 2889 03:02:07,470 --> 03:02:10,380 have to push the agenda. That's the point. I'm trying to push 2890 03:02:10,380 --> 03:02:12,810 with this segment. That it doesn't matter about the 2891 03:02:12,810 --> 03:02:13,470 science. 2892 03:02:14,369 --> 03:02:17,369 Yeah, I see what you're saying. He's a sharp dresser. 2893 03:02:18,180 --> 03:02:22,770 He's a very sharp dresser. Give him even more credibility in my 2894 03:02:22,770 --> 03:02:24,690 book, to come out and say, Oh, 2895 03:02:24,690 --> 03:02:27,870 no, wait, Hayes lives in California with wife Kathy Kim 2896 03:02:27,870 --> 03:02:31,290 and their two children. Okay. Doesn't mean he doesn't mean 2897 03:02:31,290 --> 03:02:32,250 he's not gay. You don't mean 2898 03:02:32,250 --> 03:02:39,060 nothing. Right. I mean, what I'm saying is the fact that on his 2899 03:02:39,060 --> 03:02:43,830 walk campus Yeah, no, I hear you be railroaded and the black 2900 03:02:43,830 --> 03:02:45,300 person which, you know, Oh, 2901 03:02:45,570 --> 03:02:49,020 okay. Yeah, the Berkeley the Berkeley part is makes it very 2902 03:02:49,020 --> 03:02:51,540 annoying. I gotcha. Now very annoying. 2903 03:02:51,540 --> 03:02:55,440 Yeah. Um, but I will say this, 2904 03:02:55,500 --> 03:02:56,550 welcome to the bottom. 2905 03:02:58,350 --> 03:03:02,790 The reason why I did this segment is that we seen a man 2906 03:03:02,790 --> 03:03:05,640 pregnant. I don't mention his name. Please. Don't feed the 2907 03:03:05,640 --> 03:03:09,270 troll. Please don't feed the troll folks. Um, we've seen a 2908 03:03:09,270 --> 03:03:16,860 pregnant black man, take over the headlines. Um, and I think, 2909 03:03:17,730 --> 03:03:20,430 well, let's get let's go and play 43. And I'll tell you what, 2910 03:03:20,430 --> 03:03:21,570 I think on the backside of it. 2911 03:03:22,080 --> 03:03:25,320 Two months later, I was pregnant again. So I went back to her at 2912 03:03:25,320 --> 03:03:28,560 16 weeks. I went for an ultrasound at the clinic and saw 2913 03:03:28,560 --> 03:03:31,170 a different doctor who was working that day. I found out 2914 03:03:31,170 --> 03:03:34,290 again, I was in preterm labor. The doctor told me that the baby 2915 03:03:34,290 --> 03:03:37,500 was going to abort. I said, No, you have to do something. But he 2916 03:03:37,500 --> 03:03:40,980 was adamant. He said, just go home, let it abort. You can get 2917 03:03:40,980 --> 03:03:44,340 pregnant again because that's what you people do. My sister 2918 03:03:44,340 --> 03:03:47,100 Kelly was with me. We didn't know what to do after the doctor 2919 03:03:47,100 --> 03:03:50,370 left. So we saw a chair sitting sitting in the hallway. My 2920 03:03:50,370 --> 03:03:53,040 sister picked up the chair and she threw it down the hallway. 2921 03:03:53,160 --> 03:03:55,350 Nurses came running from everywhere to see what was 2922 03:03:55,350 --> 03:04:00,120 wrong. A nurse called my doctor, and she put me on a stretcher. 2923 03:04:00,330 --> 03:04:03,930 The next morning, my doctor came in and placed the star clouds on 2924 03:04:03,930 --> 03:04:07,140 my uterus and I was able to carry my baby. My daughter, my 2925 03:04:07,140 --> 03:04:11,670 angel who is now 20 years old, my son, who was saved is now 21 2926 03:04:11,670 --> 03:04:14,550 years old. This is what desperation looks like that 2927 03:04:14,550 --> 03:04:17,610 chair flying down the hallway. This is what being your own 2928 03:04:17,610 --> 03:04:20,490 advocate looks like. Everyday black women are subjected to 2929 03:04:20,490 --> 03:04:23,250 harsh, harsh and racist treatment during pregnancy and 2930 03:04:23,250 --> 03:04:26,850 childbirth. Everyday black women die because the system denies 2931 03:04:26,850 --> 03:04:30,690 our humanity. It denies this patient care. I sit before you 2932 03:04:30,690 --> 03:04:35,130 today as a single mom as a nurse as an activist and as a 2933 03:04:35,130 --> 03:04:39,120 Congresswoman and I am committed to doing the absolute most to 2934 03:04:39,120 --> 03:04:43,800 protect black mothers to protect black babies to put protag black 2935 03:04:43,800 --> 03:04:46,470 birthing people and to save lives. 2936 03:04:48,720 --> 03:04:53,430 Yeah, what I think they're doing is politically I'm not talking 2937 03:04:53,430 --> 03:04:58,200 about people socially or whatever. They tabbies terms 2938 03:04:58,200 --> 03:05:02,940 like black birthing people In whatever everything she said up 2939 03:05:02,940 --> 03:05:06,330 to that point is a very serious concern. Because we heard of the 2940 03:05:06,330 --> 03:05:11,820 mortality rates and a women concern. Yeah. which feeds back 2941 03:05:11,820 --> 03:05:15,420 into what we talked about with Johns Hopkins and the care that 2942 03:05:15,420 --> 03:05:21,120 they get in, in poor hospitals or hospitals. That they Well, 2943 03:05:21,150 --> 03:05:23,040 let me say it like this Not for Hopkins, definitely not for 2944 03:05:23,040 --> 03:05:28,200 hospital, but the two tiered medical system for poor people. 2945 03:05:28,770 --> 03:05:32,520 And that's a very serious topic. And they use Oh, black birthing 2946 03:05:32,520 --> 03:05:37,230 people in there. It's like birthing people. But Hmm, I 2947 03:05:37,230 --> 03:05:41,940 mean, whatever you whatever you do, you do, but it kind of 2948 03:05:41,940 --> 03:05:47,910 discredits and dis derails a serious topic. Is that by 2949 03:05:47,910 --> 03:05:51,270 strategy? I don't know. I mean, I don't know why they're trying 2950 03:05:51,270 --> 03:05:59,190 to lump gay with black and make it synonymous. Find it very 2951 03:05:59,190 --> 03:06:03,120 troubling. I find it very troubling. For us, kind of like 2952 03:06:03,120 --> 03:06:04,260 black and brown, it's this. 2953 03:06:05,610 --> 03:06:09,150 No, it's for sure. It's, while they're doing all this now, 2954 03:06:09,150 --> 03:06:13,770 because everyone's amygdala is so out of whack. That work. I 2955 03:06:13,770 --> 03:06:17,010 mean, everybody is in constant fight or flight mode, you know. 2956 03:06:17,010 --> 03:06:20,160 So that's when you're so susceptible. And I think these 2957 03:06:20,160 --> 03:06:24,420 terms slip in a bone, which cemented forever. But why 2958 03:06:24,420 --> 03:06:26,970 they're doing this particular? I mean, 2959 03:06:30,390 --> 03:06:31,950 if this block building 2960 03:06:32,519 --> 03:06:35,819 blocks, yeah, it's pure. It's purely political. Yeah, I agree. 2961 03:06:35,819 --> 03:06:37,319 That's, that's all that it is. 2962 03:06:38,520 --> 03:06:41,280 When it could be deeper, but I'll show you another example of 2963 03:06:41,400 --> 03:06:44,280 this. Just go through this right quick. This is Candace Owens 2964 03:06:44,280 --> 03:06:45,870 with Mark Lamont Hill. 2965 03:06:46,020 --> 03:06:49,500 So to acknowledge a social construct does not mean that we 2966 03:06:49,500 --> 03:06:53,100 ignore biology. And it doesn't, it doesn't mean that we don't 2967 03:06:53,100 --> 03:06:53,490 have 2968 03:06:53,520 --> 03:06:59,580 men get pregnant. I know I know, it depend on I know trans men 2969 03:06:59,580 --> 03:07:02,430 that can get pregnant, that means it's a woman, only one sex 2970 03:07:03,090 --> 03:07:05,970 argument, this argument is proving my thing, there is a 2971 03:07:05,970 --> 03:07:08,970 truth, a concrete truth, you have to be born with a uterus to 2972 03:07:08,970 --> 03:07:11,940 have a baby, only women can get pregnant, the fact that we've 2973 03:07:11,940 --> 03:07:15,180 arrived in a society. That's the point of disagreeing something 2974 03:07:15,180 --> 03:07:18,090 is that these are facts. So you can say that this person who is 2975 03:07:18,090 --> 03:07:20,880 pregnant identifies as a man, that person was born a woman, I 2976 03:07:20,880 --> 03:07:23,160 can tell you that every single time because only women can have 2977 03:07:23,160 --> 03:07:26,280 sex, because there are concrete truths about life, is that the 2978 03:07:26,280 --> 03:07:29,850 kids can have babies pardon. And that that is a hard truth about 2979 03:07:29,850 --> 03:07:31,950 life, you cannot make that go away, because you want to call 2980 03:07:31,950 --> 03:07:34,470 him as somebody who has a beard and dress like a dude, a woman, 2981 03:07:34,560 --> 03:07:36,540 only if it's pregnant, I'll take and take exactly what it is. 2982 03:07:36,540 --> 03:07:37,050 It's a woman 2983 03:07:37,140 --> 03:07:42,480 and that kind of thing. But I think this is what we talked 2984 03:07:42,480 --> 03:07:46,860 about before. This is magic. This is this is a magic spell. 2985 03:07:47,220 --> 03:07:49,860 Oh, thank you. Thank you for saying that. Before you 2986 03:07:49,860 --> 03:07:52,800 continue, ever since you returned me and which of course 2987 03:07:52,800 --> 03:07:54,870 is forbidden from show one, you've turned me on to the 2988 03:07:54,870 --> 03:07:58,800 spell. And I was reading about spells the other day in the 2989 03:07:58,800 --> 03:08:04,320 context as in the context of, of how the the church used to work. 2990 03:08:04,740 --> 03:08:07,080 Before the Gutenberg press before people could read the 2991 03:08:07,080 --> 03:08:11,130 Bible themselves. And you know, the idea of a spell is literally 2992 03:08:11,130 --> 03:08:15,300 because of the words you're spelling out words. It is just 2993 03:08:15,300 --> 03:08:19,800 wording spec spelling. The actual spell is just when when 2994 03:08:19,800 --> 03:08:23,730 you say black birthing person, I hear that as a spell. Now. 2995 03:08:25,350 --> 03:08:28,620 The same thing with men can have babies. It's like it does 2996 03:08:28,620 --> 03:08:32,250 something to the brain that you can hear can his own wishes. 2997 03:08:32,340 --> 03:08:36,210 She's music cool as a cucumber, which you can see she was 2998 03:08:36,210 --> 03:08:38,310 getting worked up. Yeah, 2999 03:08:38,550 --> 03:08:41,460 she's in pretty new mom herself. So she's kind of pissed off 3000 03:08:41,460 --> 03:08:42,270 about that. 3001 03:08:43,380 --> 03:08:48,330 Right. But like I said, even if it's not even a point to argue, 3002 03:08:49,050 --> 03:08:53,910 I mean, that's my thing, but they use it as a it's just like 3003 03:08:53,910 --> 03:09:00,090 a trigger on nudge to bring you into the conversation of what 3004 03:09:00,090 --> 03:09:03,360 are we doing here? I mean, like, seriously, what what what are we 3005 03:09:03,360 --> 03:09:06,390 discussing? I mean, we have a serious topic, that Corey bush 3006 03:09:06,390 --> 03:09:10,200 he covered promise a minute and a half. And then you Shimon 3007 03:09:10,200 --> 03:09:10,890 stumbled on the 3008 03:09:10,890 --> 03:09:12,030 words to very 3009 03:09:13,530 --> 03:09:21,270 Yeah. So and then, this is a ben shapiro clip of transgender 3010 03:09:21,270 --> 03:09:23,670 parents tried to breastfeed, ciao, this is 3011 03:09:23,670 --> 03:09:26,790 being champion. These are civil rights heroes. There's a man was 3012 03:09:26,790 --> 03:09:29,400 sticking his nipple in the mouth of the child in the mouth of a 3013 03:09:29,400 --> 03:09:32,220 small baby, in a bizarre attempt to nourish the baby with 3014 03:09:32,220 --> 03:09:35,280 literally nothing, and you're a bigot. If you disagree. You're 3015 03:09:35,280 --> 03:09:39,120 the authoritarian for suggesting there is a problem here. There 3016 03:09:39,120 --> 03:09:43,710 is apparently a series that is is called nine months with 3017 03:09:43,710 --> 03:09:47,430 Courtney Cox. It's a docu series about various couples having 3018 03:09:47,430 --> 03:09:52,500 children. And this went viral yesterday. It is a video from 3019 03:09:52,680 --> 03:09:57,690 apparently season three episode eight of nine months with 3020 03:09:57,690 --> 03:10:01,770 Courtney Cox and it features A transgender man, meaning a 3021 03:10:01,770 --> 03:10:05,760 biological woman, who pushed is a biological woman, we had a 3022 03:10:05,760 --> 03:10:07,200 baby, there's not a man who had a baby, because that's not 3023 03:10:07,200 --> 03:10:10,110 possible. There's a biological woman who used her uterus to 3024 03:10:10,110 --> 03:10:12,300 create a baby and then push the baby out through her vagina 3025 03:10:12,300 --> 03:10:14,940 because she's a biological woman once more, and no amount of 3026 03:10:14,940 --> 03:10:17,880 testosterone that produces facial hair, or growing the hair 3027 03:10:17,880 --> 03:10:21,420 out, or mastectomies changes the fact that this is a biological 3028 03:10:21,420 --> 03:10:24,030 woman, as evidenced by the fact that biological men cannot give 3029 03:10:24,030 --> 03:10:28,680 birth. And by the way, you're a bigot, if you disagree. Not only 3030 03:10:28,680 --> 03:10:31,650 are you bigot, if you bring up your children to disagree, left 3031 03:10:31,650 --> 03:10:35,430 will will sick your authoritarian regime on you. I 3032 03:10:35,430 --> 03:10:37,380 mean, this is the way this is going to go over the next few 3033 03:10:37,380 --> 03:10:40,710 years you watch here is the bizarre new world we have 3034 03:10:40,710 --> 03:10:42,870 created for ourselves, the counter reality new world we 3035 03:10:42,870 --> 03:10:45,510 have created for ourselves. But it doesn't matter. So long as 3036 03:10:45,510 --> 03:10:47,970 these people feel better about themselves. Sure, the baby's 3037 03:10:47,970 --> 03:10:51,420 gonna starve to death. But at least the delusional parents 3038 03:10:51,420 --> 03:10:52,650 feel better about themselves. And 3039 03:10:54,900 --> 03:10:58,140 the reason why I bring all this up is I saw everybody here catch 3040 03:10:58,140 --> 03:11:03,780 on fire, with the one that won't be named. Walking around as a 3041 03:11:03,780 --> 03:11:12,480 pregnant man. We have this stop beating into things that we we 3042 03:11:12,480 --> 03:11:17,040 see things it's like you're seeing Mr. Trigger, you don't 3043 03:11:17,340 --> 03:11:22,110 stop and watch the magic show. He's like, keep keep it moving. 3044 03:11:22,500 --> 03:11:28,560 Because that's what they want to do is drag you in. Until I 3045 03:11:28,560 --> 03:11:33,330 conversation is only gonna leave you perplexed. It's, 3046 03:11:33,450 --> 03:11:36,300 it's gonna leave you perplexed. Because if you don't agree, 3047 03:11:36,300 --> 03:11:38,820 you're immediately shamed. That's why you need to stay away 3048 03:11:38,820 --> 03:11:39,510 from that. 3049 03:11:40,080 --> 03:11:44,490 Right? And if you do agree, it's like, well, you will never 3050 03:11:44,490 --> 03:11:46,440 agree. And that's the whole point is to leave you in a 3051 03:11:46,440 --> 03:11:50,490 perpetual state of frustration. And that in this, how to break 3052 03:11:50,490 --> 03:11:53,370 your wheel. And I will say this People's Choice, this is 3053 03:11:53,370 --> 03:11:56,070 America, you can do whatever you want to do with language inside 3054 03:11:56,070 --> 03:11:59,370 the letter of the law. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is 3055 03:11:59,370 --> 03:12:02,940 stop being so triggered by what you see, because that's the 3056 03:12:02,940 --> 03:12:06,090 desire to fake. That's why I won't mention this character's 3057 03:12:06,090 --> 03:12:10,620 name, because that's what he wants from you. He wants to 3058 03:12:10,620 --> 03:12:11,400 trigger you to 3059 03:12:16,410 --> 03:12:20,310 like I'm saying this is a public service announcement. Keep it 3060 03:12:20,310 --> 03:12:22,440 moving, folks. Just keep it moving. 3061 03:12:22,740 --> 03:12:26,970 OFAC says keep it moving, folks. Keep it moving in. 3062 03:12:27,150 --> 03:12:31,380 Because you have you have to we have to have not, you're gonna 3063 03:12:31,380 --> 03:12:33,660 get sucked into a circular argument. It's only gonna leave 3064 03:12:33,660 --> 03:12:37,560 you frustrated. And that's how trolls work. The trolls bring 3065 03:12:37,560 --> 03:12:38,610 you into something like 3066 03:12:38,790 --> 03:12:42,810 yes, by the way, the person who should not go name that it was 3067 03:12:42,810 --> 03:12:43,830 an excellent troll. 3068 03:12:44,880 --> 03:12:49,680 perfectly honest about it. He is a Master Master. 3069 03:12:50,250 --> 03:12:51,360 Yeah. 3070 03:12:52,380 --> 03:12:55,620 He knows how to get a response because he used to run a fan 3071 03:12:55,620 --> 03:13:02,460 page for Nicki Minaj. So understand the power of mean you 3072 03:13:02,460 --> 03:13:07,320 know, he might you're in his domain. When you get on the 3073 03:13:07,320 --> 03:13:11,670 internet, you're in his domain. So he knows exactly how to get 3074 03:13:11,670 --> 03:13:14,370 around the you know, the whatever the sneakers with the 3075 03:13:14,370 --> 03:13:17,430 bla bla bla bla, we won't get into it. But my point is, I'm 3076 03:13:17,430 --> 03:13:20,670 saying this to people. Don't allow yourself to be triggered, 3077 03:13:20,820 --> 03:13:23,400 because there's other stuff we need to worry about, like uterus 3078 03:13:23,400 --> 03:13:24,030 transplant. 3079 03:13:24,180 --> 03:13:28,650 Oh, of course. It's 8am. from Fox 35. Do you know where your 3080 03:13:28,650 --> 03:13:31,890 uterus is? This is good day Orlando. 3081 03:13:32,070 --> 03:13:35,010 game changer for some couples experts think that within the 3082 03:13:35,010 --> 03:13:39,150 next five to 10 years, they couldn't be possible for men to 3083 03:13:39,150 --> 03:13:43,650 have a baby, carry a baby deliver a baby, all of it coming 3084 03:13:43,650 --> 03:13:46,800 up next, we're gonna speak to a local fertility doctor about the 3085 03:13:46,800 --> 03:13:50,340 new development that could possibly become reality. 3086 03:13:51,780 --> 03:13:55,350 On the Healthwatch this morning, recently, the Cleveland Clinic 3087 03:13:55,350 --> 03:13:58,950 announced that it is performing uterus transplant surgery for 3088 03:13:58,950 --> 03:14:01,650 some women that led to some people to wonder if they could 3089 03:14:01,650 --> 03:14:05,340 transplant the universe into a man. And if so, can a man give 3090 03:14:05,340 --> 03:14:08,730 birth? The answer is yes. A doctor from the University of 3091 03:14:08,730 --> 03:14:12,270 Southern California says it can be a reality in about five to 10 3092 03:14:12,270 --> 03:14:15,690 years and maybe even sooner. Dr. Mark Charles with Fertility Care 3093 03:14:15,690 --> 03:14:19,500 joins us now to talk about this. My first question is why? Oh, 3094 03:14:19,500 --> 03:14:19,830 goody. 3095 03:14:19,830 --> 03:14:21,060 goody, I can't wait. 3096 03:14:22,950 --> 03:14:29,850 Seriously? Yes. Yeah, we only had a permit for it. But this is 3097 03:14:29,850 --> 03:14:30,150 more 3098 03:14:30,150 --> 03:14:33,840 remember, remember mo they have to get ratings. I mean, 3099 03:14:33,840 --> 03:14:40,410 television. I was looking at the MTV Video Music Award. I know 3100 03:14:40,410 --> 03:14:43,650 they don't really report overnight ratings anymore. But a 3101 03:14:43,650 --> 03:14:47,250 couple years ago, they had 12 million people watching will I 3102 03:14:47,250 --> 03:14:50,430 guarantee you it wasn't that this year. You'll see such a 3103 03:14:50,430 --> 03:14:53,370 poor production now. But it's not even that it doesn't matter 3104 03:14:53,370 --> 03:14:57,690 which show you put on it doesn't matter who's doing it. 3105 03:14:58,020 --> 03:14:59,490 Television is done. 3106 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:03,330 That's why they have to troll see they have to troll. Yes, 3107 03:15:03,330 --> 03:15:04,260 exactly, 3108 03:15:04,260 --> 03:15:07,890 exactly. And so the troll is a part of the system is how it 3109 03:15:07,890 --> 03:15:11,160 works. That's exactly right. And I 3110 03:15:11,160 --> 03:15:14,490 saw clips of that because that used to be the Illuminati 3111 03:15:16,200 --> 03:15:20,790 combination ball but it was so low quality. I was listening to 3112 03:15:20,790 --> 03:15:24,150 green screens and the back crowd was like geez they have fell off 3113 03:15:24,150 --> 03:15:28,170 like their their resort to salt this source of war tactics of 3114 03:15:28,170 --> 03:15:34,140 having a machine gun Kelly and what Conor McGregor fight. It's 3115 03:15:34,140 --> 03:15:37,410 like, man, y'all are really scraping the bottom now. 3116 03:15:38,070 --> 03:15:42,540 I saw that there were a couple of that checkerboard floors. 3117 03:15:42,540 --> 03:15:46,170 There were some burning hearts with daggers and there was some 3118 03:15:46,170 --> 03:15:47,040 stuff in there. 3119 03:15:47,100 --> 03:15:52,260 Oh, yeah, clock Chloe. She she's being groomed to do Yeah, all 3120 03:15:52,260 --> 03:15:54,990 over. She's being groomed to be the next but what I'm saying is 3121 03:15:54,990 --> 03:15:59,100 the quality of it. I mean, with such poor quality. It's like 3122 03:15:59,130 --> 03:16:03,000 they're not even getting the top people to show up or run it 3123 03:16:03,000 --> 03:16:07,260 behind the scenes. So I mean, we're we're winning the war. 3124 03:16:08,700 --> 03:16:13,380 Easily, easily. No, no, we we are winning the war. That's why 3125 03:16:13,380 --> 03:16:16,320 podcasting. 2.0 is keeping everybody honest and keeping 3126 03:16:16,320 --> 03:16:20,130 everybody out of trouble. Where they can't take that you can't 3127 03:16:20,130 --> 03:16:23,640 be canceled. Your show can't be canceled. And nor can the money. 3128 03:16:23,670 --> 03:16:26,940 I mean, we love PayPal and cash app, but that's a problem. We 3129 03:16:26,940 --> 03:16:31,530 can keep going forever. So we are winning. We are winning we 3130 03:16:31,530 --> 03:16:34,140 are with eventually it's all going to collapse upon itself. 3131 03:16:34,530 --> 03:16:38,670 But we'll have to do some work before that happens most 3132 03:16:38,670 --> 03:16:39,780 especially you and I 3133 03:16:40,860 --> 03:16:44,370 but that's what the last block was about is just don't allow 3134 03:16:44,370 --> 03:16:48,180 yourself to be triggered keep keep you're not meant to side is 3135 03:16:48,180 --> 03:16:53,010 a real thing. And one part of that is the is the gaslighting 3136 03:16:53,100 --> 03:16:56,400 aspect of it. So don't don't fall prey to it. 3137 03:16:58,080 --> 03:17:02,790 And you can tell from this show how we are. Everything's 3138 03:17:02,790 --> 03:17:08,520 possible. And it isn't even that hard. So Moe, thank you. This 3139 03:17:08,520 --> 03:17:12,540 was really good mouse. This was a good potluck. I used you blew 3140 03:17:12,540 --> 03:17:18,900 me away multiple times. Really cool. I was so refreshing to to 3141 03:17:18,900 --> 03:17:21,810 have a different take on all of these stories that are that are 3142 03:17:21,810 --> 03:17:28,200 rolling right now. And, you know, especially props to 3143 03:17:28,200 --> 03:17:31,890 Henrietta Lacks, man. That's the story I got to dive deep into. I 3144 03:17:31,890 --> 03:17:33,600 got to find out anything more. It's going 3145 03:17:33,810 --> 03:17:37,290 to evolve into a full show. I guess I wanted to address it 3146 03:17:37,290 --> 03:17:41,880 now. Because you seem to start to ramp up with the Crump 3147 03:17:41,880 --> 03:17:45,270 aspect. And the anniversary coming. He was saying thank God 3148 03:17:45,270 --> 03:17:49,080 for Crump man he keeps us with material. We appreciate it. 3149 03:17:50,310 --> 03:17:53,190 Thank you. And thank you mo I really appreciate what you've 3150 03:17:53,190 --> 03:17:53,970 done once again. 3151 03:17:54,510 --> 03:17:58,800 Thank you, Adam. And as I always say, pay attention to everything 3152 03:17:58,830 --> 03:18:00,150 and the truth reveal itself. 3153 03:18:00,690 --> 03:18:05,100 And two weeks we'll be back but when's the next live? 3154 03:18:06,300 --> 03:18:08,880 Eight o'clock Wednesday, eight o'clock Wednesday. 3155 03:18:09,960 --> 03:18:14,430 That's it everybody. Episode Number 66 mo facts with Adam 3156 03:18:14,430 --> 03:18:19,110 Curry is in the can enjoy it. I know I certainly did. Please 3157 03:18:19,110 --> 03:18:22,410 remember this is a value for value podcasts. Nothing works 3158 03:18:22,410 --> 03:18:24,870 without your support. We need your time your talent and your 3159 03:18:24,870 --> 03:18:29,100 treasure. Go to moe facts.com for more and of course directly 3160 03:18:29,100 --> 03:18:33,930 to the donation page at mo fund me.com and use a podcast in 2.0. 3161 03:18:34,890 --> 03:18:37,770 Mo 14 days brother See you then. 3162 03:18:38,369 --> 03:18:39,029 I see you later.