1 00:00:00,539 --> 00:00:06,779 podcasting 2.0 for December 31 2021, episode 68 Mind the Gap 2 00:00:09,359 --> 00:00:14,609 as right the very last meeting of the Board for 2021 for 3 00:00:14,609 --> 00:00:19,589 podcasting 2.0 That's everything about podcasting index.org all 4 00:00:19,589 --> 00:00:23,399 the latest happenings with the podcast namespace and of course 5 00:00:23,429 --> 00:00:26,489 the genius work that is taking place at podcast index dot 6 00:00:26,489 --> 00:00:29,129 social I'm Adam curry here in the heart of Hill Country Texas 7 00:00:29,399 --> 00:00:33,509 and Alabama ladies Look at that smile my friend on the other end 8 00:00:33,509 --> 00:00:35,309 Mr. Dave Jones 9 00:00:37,980 --> 00:00:41,550 so much for the Bitcoin to 100,000 by the end of the year 10 00:00:41,700 --> 00:00:46,800 for ELA how terrible does that look? 11 00:00:46,860 --> 00:00:54,900 Well it's funny you say that um wow, that was abrupt. Nice fade 12 00:00:54,900 --> 00:00:58,470 out occurring Yeah, well just want to write blouse Fade to 13 00:00:58,470 --> 00:01:01,170 black. Hey look, if you can't cover it up, turn it up right 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,950 with the guitar player for promise used to say said if you 15 00:01:04,950 --> 00:01:07,230 ever mess up do it two or three more times, you know think you 16 00:01:07,230 --> 00:01:07,650 meant to? 17 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:10,740 It's exactly right. I heard it from a good guitar player as 18 00:01:10,740 --> 00:01:16,140 well. Yes. As you can if you can't cover it up, turn it up. I 19 00:01:16,140 --> 00:01:20,730 wish it was the my buddy who's Chief Financial Officer of 20 00:01:20,730 --> 00:01:24,900 Marvel Entertainment. Not the movie side. But you know the 21 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:28,080 interestingly the NFT side and the 22 00:01:28,799 --> 00:01:31,559 nifty Oh yeah. Oh, they're they did NF T's. 23 00:01:32,370 --> 00:01:35,640 But I can't he told me how much they're making a week. I can't 24 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:41,550 divulge that. It's crazy. We'll talk about we're gonna world has 25 00:01:41,550 --> 00:01:44,220 gone into the I know we promised to talk about NF T's we'll get 26 00:01:44,220 --> 00:01:48,510 there. Anyway, he's saying hey, man, cuz he's really good guys. 27 00:01:48,510 --> 00:01:52,740 But he's, I think he's really he's obviously very smart. But 28 00:01:52,740 --> 00:01:55,110 he comes across as kind of like, I don't know, you know, kinda 29 00:01:55,110 --> 00:01:59,370 like a dumb guy, but he's not like, stealthy you know, he's 30 00:01:59,370 --> 00:02:02,220 still hustler. He's a hustler, huh yeah, that's possible. 31 00:02:02,340 --> 00:02:04,620 He's very I don't know but this game of pool 32 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:11,700 Exactly. And but he's he's very giving with his information his 33 00:02:11,700 --> 00:02:14,310 knowledge his stories, but he's very quiet guys always listening 34 00:02:14,310 --> 00:02:16,680 Oh, you can tell he's always sucking up the information. So 35 00:02:16,980 --> 00:02:21,960 he's been following podcasting 2.0 and lightning and and what 36 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,260 we're doing obviously, and Bitcoin he says, you know, so 37 00:02:25,260 --> 00:02:29,220 why is Bitcoin going down? And, you know, I thought about it for 38 00:02:29,220 --> 00:02:32,760 a second. I said, well, first of all, there's no unlike Wall 39 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,930 Street, there's no circuit breakers. When it goes crazy one 40 00:02:36,930 --> 00:02:39,390 way or the other. No one's there to intervene and stop 41 00:02:39,390 --> 00:02:43,050 so Oh, there's just handlebars, you just hang on these straps. 42 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:51,120 Oh, Jesus. Oh, geez. Here we go. And to whenever I see as in the 43 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,100 past two weeks, pundit after pundit coming on CNBC and ever 44 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:59,340 all bitcoins gonna go to 100,000 before the end of the year, you 45 00:02:59,340 --> 00:03:03,630 know, that's the setup is just always like, Oh, it's what was 46 00:03:03,630 --> 00:03:06,570 the El Salvador El Salvador tomorrow? It's gonna be legal 47 00:03:06,570 --> 00:03:07,710 currency. It's gonna go to the moon. 48 00:03:09,570 --> 00:03:13,650 Yes, like the oil it's gonna get $100 a barrel. It's like oh, 49 00:03:13,650 --> 00:03:17,460 well, here we go. Yes. Get ready to sell your oil because it's 50 00:03:17,460 --> 00:03:18,540 about to tank. Yeah. 51 00:03:18,569 --> 00:03:23,759 So that's now is there any reason for not to spike now of 52 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:26,489 course. I mean, you know, if you look at the chart, I am a 53 00:03:26,489 --> 00:03:29,669 Technical Analyst when it comes to this kind of stuff. You're 54 00:03:29,669 --> 00:03:36,719 classically trained in the jack Ponty day trading scheme. We 55 00:03:36,719 --> 00:03:40,319 have had consistent three weeks of higher highs, higher lows. So 56 00:03:40,349 --> 00:03:42,629 you know, the trend is there. And what are 57 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:44,730 looking at the Fibonacci. Oh, yeah, I'm 58 00:03:44,730 --> 00:03:48,420 all about the, you know, all the shoulders you know, Fibonacci, 59 00:03:48,450 --> 00:03:52,110 Fibonacci time timeframes, that kind of stuff. I love that shit 60 00:03:52,110 --> 00:03:56,820 cup and handle. Those are patterns. I'm much more on the 61 00:03:58,140 --> 00:04:00,870 podcast, I've forgotten all the names but all those individual 62 00:04:00,870 --> 00:04:05,700 models that show you know trailing indicators as a couple 63 00:04:05,700 --> 00:04:08,070 of leading Well, I used to do all that shit and I was really 64 00:04:08,070 --> 00:04:14,010 good at it. Except I would I would choke does okay. I 65 00:04:14,010 --> 00:04:16,260 wouldn't really handle the press you know? It's like I could do 66 00:04:16,260 --> 00:04:19,950 it with like 500 bucks 1000 bucks maybe like okay, you know 67 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,830 what I was like dude, you want to make $100,000 today so yeah, 68 00:04:22,830 --> 00:04:25,050 okay, do it with the $10,000 like 69 00:04:27,660 --> 00:04:30,420 your hair your your fingers hover and I could not 70 00:04:30,420 --> 00:04:32,970 and I couldn't do it and I couldn't see straight that and 71 00:04:32,970 --> 00:04:36,510 to fund that that stuff and I did make money but you know not 72 00:04:36,540 --> 00:04:40,050 not like a hell of a lot because I just didn't have the balls I 73 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,520 that's what I sold my 65 Bitcoin to learn how to do that is the 74 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,120 most expensive stupid lesson I've ever ever invested in. 75 00:04:48,870 --> 00:04:54,180 Yeah, I'm gonna take a ticket options course. Bitcoin as 76 00:04:54,180 --> 00:04:57,270 always, I always love those guys are like, Yeah, I went to option 77 00:04:57,300 --> 00:04:58,950 you know, to learn how to do options. That's where you can 78 00:04:58,950 --> 00:05:00,990 make all the money I'm like, dude, You're about to get so 79 00:05:00,990 --> 00:05:01,440 fried. 80 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:07,410 Oh, yeah. So many of my friends are now you can see them slowly 81 00:05:07,410 --> 00:05:10,590 starting to get more interest. Like even the former New York 82 00:05:10,590 --> 00:05:14,490 banker, me sending me articles on lightning. How there's Well, 83 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,450 yeah, this so there's all and people just see that just more 84 00:05:18,450 --> 00:05:21,720 interested now they're more interested and they want to know 85 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,230 what's going on they'd like, you know, no one really understands 86 00:05:25,230 --> 00:05:28,050 why is Bitcoin better than Aetherium? You know, actually, 87 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:34,680 before we continue, I want to say, Okay, now what the heck 88 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:41,100 great job Gigi, did you read his article on? Value for value? Oh 89 00:05:41,100 --> 00:05:41,880 my god. Yeah. 90 00:05:42,390 --> 00:05:44,640 That was it when that guy when that guy breaks out the keyboard 91 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,360 and starts writing, it's always gonna be good. Yeah. Just know. 92 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:49,200 He just knows it. 93 00:05:49,770 --> 00:05:54,420 What does he What does his background? I know you talked to 94 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:57,570 him, but I can't remember. I can't remember what it was a 95 00:05:57,570 --> 00:05:58,590 software engineer 96 00:05:58,889 --> 00:06:02,999 who's not anonymous? I think so. But he's an anonymous Bitcoin 97 00:06:02,999 --> 00:06:06,089 guy. And he takes his eminent anonymity very seriously. So I 98 00:06:06,089 --> 00:06:10,649 think like when he was on that show with Jordan Peterson, he, 99 00:06:10,679 --> 00:06:12,749 you know, had his face covered and everything. I mean, I think 100 00:06:12,749 --> 00:06:17,069 he's, I don't know, the FBI knows exactly who he is. But he 101 00:06:17,069 --> 00:06:20,009 knows his stuff to great guy to have talked to him personally a 102 00:06:20,009 --> 00:06:22,799 few times with helping when he helped out with the value for 103 00:06:22,799 --> 00:06:26,729 value spec, and doing document review and that kind of thing. 104 00:06:27,149 --> 00:06:30,869 And, by the way, if I sound like I'm new film sound sound like a 105 00:06:30,869 --> 00:06:35,309 minute can I'm sick again, again. So that's, I woke up with 106 00:06:35,309 --> 00:06:39,599 a fever this morning. Have this anyway, that's it that 107 00:06:40,380 --> 00:06:42,840 I need. I need to get better partners. I mean, he's just 108 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,950 lately, I've got one who was too old, you know, I got one who's 109 00:06:46,950 --> 00:06:47,730 just sick. 110 00:06:47,970 --> 00:06:53,880 You got tinycam? On one? Yeah, okay. In a Joe Biden. On the 111 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:54,240 other side, 112 00:06:54,539 --> 00:06:57,539 the the title of the article is, and I have a link in the show 113 00:06:57,539 --> 00:07:01,199 notes, the freedom of value, how value for value fixes the 114 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:07,619 monetization of information. And I took two quotes from it. One 115 00:07:07,619 --> 00:07:10,319 is actually this is this is the one I tweeted this free speech 116 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:15,329 platforms cannot exist, only free speech protocols can exist. 117 00:07:15,689 --> 00:07:18,149 Yes. Hello, 118 00:07:18,479 --> 00:07:23,219 I fully agree with that, of course, that's the thing. So 119 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:27,719 thinking about Alex gates, people misunderstand him a lot 120 00:07:27,719 --> 00:07:31,289 on the forum. Because the what he's has been preaching the 121 00:07:31,289 --> 00:07:37,259 whole time is protocols, not products. Because the protocol 122 00:07:37,259 --> 00:07:44,369 is where the is where the the, the freedom and the design, sort 123 00:07:44,369 --> 00:07:49,709 of meat. You can't take. You can anybody can make products, no 124 00:07:49,709 --> 00:07:54,659 come and go. But the protocols we can see with local RSS, OPML, 125 00:07:55,589 --> 00:07:58,349 all the web, all the open web protocols, activity, pub, they 126 00:07:58,349 --> 00:08:01,619 all live forever. And that's where if you create if you 127 00:08:01,619 --> 00:08:05,849 design a good protocol, and it doesn't mean that you're always 128 00:08:05,849 --> 00:08:08,789 going to be right, I mean, people are gonna make are gonna 129 00:08:08,789 --> 00:08:11,759 design protocols they think are great, they're gonna fail. But 130 00:08:11,999 --> 00:08:16,379 if you just focus on that as your as your goal as designing 131 00:08:16,379 --> 00:08:20,879 the protocol, then as being open, free, decentralized, all 132 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:24,689 these all these things. That's where the magic happens. Yeah. 133 00:08:26,220 --> 00:08:30,120 Yeah, it's so he makes he makes that case. He makes that case 134 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,740 very well. And in this articles, 135 00:08:32,220 --> 00:08:33,450 what Bitcoin is, yeah, 136 00:08:33,510 --> 00:08:36,750 I mean, yeah. And I think that article will help, we'll help a 137 00:08:36,750 --> 00:08:37,410 lot of people. 138 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:42,450 To you, I think it's a maximum it's amino to max Hillebrand 139 00:08:42,450 --> 00:08:45,810 moment where you just need somebody that really knows how 140 00:08:45,810 --> 00:08:53,130 to speak to really knows how to speak to, to the simple aspect 141 00:08:53,130 --> 00:08:56,730 of the thing. Like I don't like saying simplify it because it 142 00:08:56,730 --> 00:09:00,030 makes it sound like people are too stupid to understand it. But 143 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,840 it is actually a fairly simple thing. But you need somebody who 144 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,100 can get to the simple parts and pull those out and make those 145 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:10,350 the main focus that he's good at. 146 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:13,050 Yeah. And so well, there's two parts to add the value for 147 00:09:13,050 --> 00:09:17,040 value, which I think Gigi really explains well. And then the tech 148 00:09:17,250 --> 00:09:21,510 technical implementation we're looking at with podcasting 2.0 149 00:09:21,510 --> 00:09:25,560 it last night teen and it is a very Texas thing. And it was of 150 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:28,860 course a Texas boy who forced us into it and man am I happy Sir 151 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:31,890 Mark Hall? Who's Who's I think he's from East Texas, 152 00:09:31,890 --> 00:09:36,840 originally, Houston. 15 minutes from our house is the hilltop 153 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,050 cafe. which like I said, that's 154 00:09:40,050 --> 00:09:41,130 a good that's a good name. 155 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:45,480 Have you ever heard of this of this joint? No. So the hilltop 156 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,400 Cafe is owned by us guys at Johnny's name and Johnny's like 157 00:09:50,430 --> 00:09:54,660 the old blues music musician, you know, early 70s Probably. 158 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,190 It's been there. It's Roadhouse. It's, it's on i It's on 87. It's 159 00:09:59,190 --> 00:10:03,060 totally eroded. House, they have a fantastic kitchen and a stage. 160 00:10:03,570 --> 00:10:08,910 And last night we went there. They have seating for about 50 161 00:10:08,910 --> 00:10:11,760 people, you know, just just a regular play very good food. I 162 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,270 mean they even see me serving eschar go, which is like eschar 163 00:10:15,270 --> 00:10:15,810 goes that 164 00:10:15,810 --> 00:10:19,710 snails was that plant class in Texas. Roadhouse food. 165 00:10:19,740 --> 00:10:24,660 Yeah. And it was a classic. Yes. And it was all local people. And 166 00:10:24,660 --> 00:10:30,060 Jimmy Vaughn played. And oh, 50 people, Dave, it and Jimmy 167 00:10:30,060 --> 00:10:32,880 Vaughn just hit 70. But you know, there's a house band is 168 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,360 there and Johnny's plan, and they did probably do a two hour 169 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,320 set is just phenomenal. And here's Jimmy Vaughn and Johnny 170 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,640 and they bring out the tip jar. And I'm thinking and of course 171 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,420 everyone's you know, stacking this thing. Like, oh my god with 172 00:10:48,420 --> 00:10:52,950 this, we are so so ready to do this when guys like that, to 173 00:10:52,950 --> 00:10:55,650 understand that value. And the people in the audience 174 00:10:55,650 --> 00:10:57,810 understand that value and don't think Oh, Jimmy Vaughn doesn't 175 00:10:57,810 --> 00:11:04,380 need my money. You know, all these I just wanted to, you 176 00:11:04,380 --> 00:11:06,870 know, spray SATs all over. I'm like, Come on, man. We can do 177 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:09,630 better than this. We could do better than that jar. This cash 178 00:11:09,630 --> 00:11:13,530 thing is no good anymore. It's not working for us. It's just 179 00:11:13,530 --> 00:11:16,680 the world is primed for this, then, you know with Abel Kirby 180 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:17,040 in the 181 00:11:17,130 --> 00:11:20,610 house about a year do two words. Mmm, no. Four. Go for it. Go for 182 00:11:20,610 --> 00:11:24,090 it. Abel in the wolf. If you haven't, yeah, look, look it up 183 00:11:24,090 --> 00:11:28,470 on a podcast app, new pod on a new podcast app and listen to 184 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:32,970 that thing. I mean, that's just, that's going straight to the 185 00:11:33,180 --> 00:11:36,210 straight to the direct to the listener. There's nothing in 186 00:11:36,210 --> 00:11:41,040 between. And there's no there's no label, there's no publisher. 187 00:11:41,310 --> 00:11:43,980 It's just straight night. Here's, here's the music. It's 188 00:11:43,980 --> 00:11:47,940 done. And here you can have it. If you like it, give me some 189 00:11:47,940 --> 00:11:53,100 value. Right. So pure. It's just like the Jimmy Vaughn. Yeah, 190 00:11:53,130 --> 00:11:57,030 passing the bucket around. Just I mean, I'm gonna play for you. 191 00:11:57,030 --> 00:12:00,780 You don't have to give me any, any, any money. But if you 192 00:12:00,780 --> 00:12:03,030 don't, you know, why wouldn't you? What I 193 00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:07,530 really appreciate about the Abel and Abel in the wolf calm about 194 00:12:07,530 --> 00:12:10,230 the project is that they, you know, they explain value for 195 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:13,950 value. And they need to go into their own version of it, which 196 00:12:13,950 --> 00:12:19,440 is perfect. And how you can get into it and why and what to do. 197 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:24,150 And they have splits. They have individual splits. Yeah, they 198 00:12:24,150 --> 00:12:28,710 do. Right? They got sir Spencer, Abel Kirby, it's split up, which 199 00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:36,090 is an LS interesting. I was just looking at the feed here. And in 200 00:12:36,090 --> 00:12:43,770 the role, or the person tag. Group equals writing role equal 201 00:12:43,770 --> 00:12:47,520 songwriter about that. Is that Yeah, I didn't know that was in 202 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:47,850 there. 203 00:12:48,270 --> 00:12:52,860 That's part of this podcast taxonomy. I love this. Yeah, 204 00:12:52,860 --> 00:12:55,590 yeah. Yeah, that's the that's that magic, the magic of 205 00:12:55,590 --> 00:12:59,700 marrying the taxonomy project to the person tag. Beautifully 206 00:12:59,700 --> 00:13:03,300 seamless. Beautiful. I mean, literally, they you can think 207 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:06,780 about it that way you could suck. That's this stuff right 208 00:13:06,780 --> 00:13:09,270 into a man. I know. This is not a movie. If it was a 209 00:13:09,270 --> 00:13:11,640 documentary, you could suck that stuff right into IMDB. 210 00:13:11,940 --> 00:13:15,720 Yeah. So I was talking to Mark he, you know, he's graciously 211 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,460 given us his killing Ed documentary for podcasting. 2.0. 212 00:13:20,460 --> 00:13:23,250 And we're gonna we're gonna get there. I mean, it's there. He's 213 00:13:23,250 --> 00:13:26,580 ready to go and promote once apps can understand it. And you 214 00:13:26,580 --> 00:13:29,640 know, we're a little bit further down the road. But he's saying 215 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,790 the same thing. Medium. Yeah, the medium tech. Exactly. He's 216 00:13:32,790 --> 00:13:35,130 saying the same thing. So I really see this Adam, I see that 217 00:13:35,130 --> 00:13:38,790 really working there is no, there is no outlet. He was a 218 00:13:38,790 --> 00:13:43,320 key, of course, he's a film guy. And he says, Netflix is going to 219 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:50,880 spend 66 $0 billion on content this year, Amazon will spend $30 220 00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:55,110 billion on content. And none of its going to go towards you 221 00:13:55,110 --> 00:13:59,400 know, these types of projects. They have a substantial 222 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,100 documentary budget, but it's gonna be you know, Lady die, 223 00:14:02,340 --> 00:14:05,280 Unabomber, that kind of stuff. You know, it's not necessarily a 224 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,810 little more esoteric, or much more niche, and they can't, but 225 00:14:09,810 --> 00:14:12,330 they can't even get on the platform. Amazon won't even talk 226 00:14:12,330 --> 00:14:16,230 to someone like that. Yeah, whatever. And they take 70% It's 227 00:14:16,260 --> 00:14:18,930 the whole thing is a ripoff. So they're probably talking, 228 00:14:19,260 --> 00:14:22,920 I was talking to a buddy of mine who does he invests in 229 00:14:23,010 --> 00:14:26,610 documentaries, and they're doing a few and he was saying that for 230 00:14:26,610 --> 00:14:29,400 every documentary, and they have to make this decision, whether 231 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,190 they're going to go shop it to Netflix, yeah. Or whether 232 00:14:32,190 --> 00:14:35,370 they're gonna do it themselves. So like, if you shop it to 233 00:14:35,370 --> 00:14:39,540 Netflix, you sort of like there's a bank of money there 234 00:14:39,540 --> 00:14:42,240 that you can just get paid, but it's just a one time upfront 235 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,510 payment. You're essentially selling your product to them. 236 00:14:45,990 --> 00:14:48,870 But the you know, versus a traditional, you know, more 237 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:52,320 keeping your ownership and having those perpetual vos 238 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,690 royalties or whatever come in on I'm not sure how that works, 239 00:14:54,690 --> 00:14:58,170 but, like, that's the decision you have to make can't do I 240 00:14:58,170 --> 00:15:01,800 trust. They're there. They're gonna give you it's sort of like 241 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,520 a guaranteed thing on the on the Netflix Amazon prompts versus 242 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,050 you taking a risk, and give you know, and doing it yourself and 243 00:15:10,050 --> 00:15:12,750 make it potentially making more money but potentially not making 244 00:15:12,750 --> 00:15:16,110 any money. It's like this Devil's bargain, that happens 245 00:15:16,110 --> 00:15:16,560 now. And 246 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,550 I realized, as I'm talking to Mark, and as I'm seeing a bull 247 00:15:20,550 --> 00:15:24,390 in the wolf, you know, we have a problem. That is a real 248 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:29,820 showstopper for this type of progression. But also, the 249 00:15:29,820 --> 00:15:34,260 opportunity is obvious. And as long as we are podcast 250 00:15:34,290 --> 00:15:37,590 index.org, as long as you come to anything we're doing and 251 00:15:37,590 --> 00:15:42,750 you're seeing podcast, it will be it's very unlikely that 252 00:15:42,930 --> 00:15:48,150 musicians will see the opportunity immediately or that 253 00:15:48,390 --> 00:15:51,840 documentarians will say, Oh, okay, so I can do this for 254 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:57,060 video, too. I mean, it's, when you call something like the 255 00:15:57,060 --> 00:16:01,200 index, podcast index, people just not thinking of this as a 256 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,070 place where music goes, necessarily so that it's a 257 00:16:05,070 --> 00:16:08,550 marketing problem. It's, it's deeply embedded, we'll never get 258 00:16:08,550 --> 00:16:14,790 out of it. However, I was listening to the the Buzzsprout 259 00:16:14,850 --> 00:16:20,550 show their best guest, the buzz cast, thank you. And they were 260 00:16:20,550 --> 00:16:24,720 talking about one person who was on the show had made his own 261 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:30,540 directory, a niche directory of podcasts, it was some certain 262 00:16:30,540 --> 00:16:37,500 type of Christianity category. And, and as I'm listening to 263 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:41,550 that, I'm thinking, what an opportunity for the non app 264 00:16:41,550 --> 00:16:45,900 developers who were part of podcast in 2.0, and sniffing 265 00:16:45,900 --> 00:16:50,100 around and look and look on what's going on, to build a 266 00:16:50,130 --> 00:16:54,660 different front end to the index, just for music, just from 267 00:16:54,660 --> 00:16:59,250 music, make it kind of understandable show some things. 268 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,920 You know, that's a starting point, we have the Steven B is 269 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:10,620 now taking the RSS generator out of curio caster it standalone. 270 00:17:10,620 --> 00:17:15,570 So that could easily be trans Morga modified into an album 271 00:17:15,570 --> 00:17:18,780 uploader? You know, I'm saying so we need to just break if 272 00:17:18,780 --> 00:17:22,470 someone's serious about it, if we break away, and by the way, 273 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,960 if you build that directory, you should get a cut. That's yeah, 274 00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:32,340 that's the beauty of it. So this is not a futile philanthropic 275 00:17:32,340 --> 00:17:35,550 mission, this, this could be an actual business. And then why 276 00:17:35,550 --> 00:17:41,160 wouldn't you? If you own the directory? Why wouldn't you talk 277 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,780 to musicians about placement and highlights and promotions is all 278 00:17:45,780 --> 00:17:49,590 kinds of stuff that can be done. But someone had and I presume 279 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:51,390 that can be done right? Can't take someone just build a 280 00:17:51,390 --> 00:17:54,930 different front end onto the back end of the index? 281 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,680 Yeah, of course. Yeah. Somebody had posted that the other day 282 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,760 that they were wishing that was a G Potter, they were 283 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,330 complaining about the G Potter directory and how it's kind of 284 00:18:06,330 --> 00:18:09,090 poor quality. I don't know anything about it, but I'm just 285 00:18:09,180 --> 00:18:12,210 trusting what they said. And they posted that they would 286 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,600 really, really wish that G Potter would just suck in the 287 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:22,290 index. And and start using that instead. And just curate it down 288 00:18:22,290 --> 00:18:25,560 to whatever they want. But But start with a clean you know, 289 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,780 quote unquote, clean you know, database and I think that 290 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,800 applies to lots of people and just take if we give enough 291 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,820 filter filterable criteria you know, we've already got things 292 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,200 we've got everything in there the light you know, language did 293 00:18:43,860 --> 00:18:48,150 we ever write down to songwriter Hello, we got all kinds of stuff 294 00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:48,540 in there 295 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,400 oh is so many filterable Things You Can you should just be able 296 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,010 to add the more we add to it once we get medium tag in there 297 00:18:56,010 --> 00:18:58,050 and that kind of thing. And that that was something I had 298 00:18:58,050 --> 00:19:00,420 discussed on podcast index social the other day it was I 299 00:19:00,420 --> 00:19:03,630 was saying well maybe what I should do is when I put the 300 00:19:03,630 --> 00:19:09,900 medium tag into the ingestion that it should should put in 301 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:13,350 there some sort of default rules that are like okay, if it comes 302 00:19:13,740 --> 00:19:19,830 from Librivox go ahead and and medium tag it with audio book or 303 00:19:19,980 --> 00:19:23,820 in you know, if it comes from I don't know, I'm I'd have to 304 00:19:23,820 --> 00:19:26,670 think through these possibilities in the in the the, 305 00:19:27,390 --> 00:19:31,320 the mastodon would have to help come up with some rules, but you 306 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,750 get the idea that you're just sort of pre tagging a lot of 307 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:37,470 stuff, same way we did with guid where you go and pre generate 308 00:19:37,470 --> 00:19:41,340 some of these some of this tag content. And then you know, if 309 00:19:41,340 --> 00:19:44,190 the feed adds itself, you know, it's the source of truth and you 310 00:19:44,190 --> 00:19:47,100 just override it. But I mean, if we did that, because there's 311 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:50,850 clearly some some things that are going to be known. I mean, 312 00:19:51,150 --> 00:19:54,570 Librivox only accepts audio books, right? So you can go 313 00:19:54,570 --> 00:19:58,260 ahead and safely tag those. Yeah. And once you start doing 314 00:19:58,260 --> 00:19:58,860 that, if you have a 315 00:19:58,949 --> 00:20:04,139 you can you can eat even take submissions in a roundabout way, 316 00:20:04,139 --> 00:20:08,159 but you could take submissions into the index through through 317 00:20:08,189 --> 00:20:14,669 popping. Oh, yeah. I mean, just, we don't Yeah, you don't have 318 00:20:14,669 --> 00:20:17,999 to. It's just it's, I can see it in front of me. You know, it's 319 00:20:17,999 --> 00:20:24,359 like, it's very much like, twice a week. Hey, man, I love what 320 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,269 you're doing with podcasting. 2.0 via files. Well, I got about 321 00:20:27,299 --> 00:20:29,849 why did you choose the lightning? Not bar car? Bah, 322 00:20:29,849 --> 00:20:35,459 bah, bah, bah, bah. And, um, to my answer is good. Where the 323 00:20:35,489 --> 00:20:39,479 East developers is there you can implement it today. We'll 324 00:20:39,479 --> 00:20:40,919 support anything you need. 325 00:20:41,490 --> 00:20:45,090 We chose the Lightning Network because we're two people that 326 00:20:45,090 --> 00:20:48,090 believe in Bitcoin. There's got to be lots of other people that 327 00:20:48,090 --> 00:20:51,210 believe in other stuff out there. Yeah, open protocols do 328 00:20:51,210 --> 00:20:51,840 it yourself. 329 00:20:52,140 --> 00:20:56,100 And even a lot of Og I know you're a maxi but a lot of Og 330 00:20:56,610 --> 00:21:00,240 Bitcoiners are really into eath. That's a sure that's fine. 331 00:21:00,390 --> 00:21:03,600 Whatever. That's, that's totally cool. Where are they? Where's 332 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,450 everyone with this with a big mouth? Oh, eath is better. Well, 333 00:21:06,450 --> 00:21:10,170 then do it? Why aren't you doing it? Maybe it's not better. Maybe 334 00:21:10,170 --> 00:21:12,510 you haven't figured it out? Maybe it's just not true. I 335 00:21:12,510 --> 00:21:16,650 don't know. What maybe gas fees make it complicated. And by the 336 00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:21,780 way, we have hive it works. You can implement I mean hive is I 337 00:21:21,780 --> 00:21:25,200 was my initial inclination is to say that sounds like it might be 338 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,820 harder than Aetherium. To implement. Just a lot of talk 339 00:21:29,820 --> 00:21:34,980 people a lot of talk. Less talk more action. Yes. cheap, cheap 340 00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:38,070 bastards. I talk's cheap. If I were able in the wolf, which I'm 341 00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:42,870 not, and they're tired, they're Yeah, they just did the album. 342 00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:45,360 They just did the tour. You know, they're taking a little 343 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:51,090 break now watch the SATs roll in. I'd be thinking about my own 344 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,910 directory, I'd be thinking about creating one, they have all the 345 00:21:53,910 --> 00:21:58,770 experience now. They went through all the pain, learned 346 00:21:58,770 --> 00:22:02,880 all the ups and downs, wrote it all out built a website, you've 347 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,140 got a template, brother, brothers, I would 348 00:22:07,140 --> 00:22:10,950 love to get an update from them on what their income is. Now 349 00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:11,370 it's going 350 00:22:12,210 --> 00:22:15,210 well, I see routing going on. So I know they're getting SATs 351 00:22:15,210 --> 00:22:17,940 because I see it in the daily report of our node. So goes 352 00:22:17,940 --> 00:22:20,400 through our node to there sometimes. So I do see that. 353 00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:25,710 By the way, but what happened with LM pay? Did that just auto 354 00:22:25,710 --> 00:22:26,550 close a channel? 355 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:32,880 Yeah, that was cool. So so I kind of manage our node. Which 356 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:33,780 means you just it's 357 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:37,620 kind of manage it you do. I do fully manage it. It's a 358 00:22:37,620 --> 00:22:40,800 living breathing thing. And we've taken and we've proven 359 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,160 something without even having set out to prove something. We 360 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,430 were a little piece of shit. No, no, no, no, no, no, not 361 00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:50,640 important type node, not enough money, everything but no big 362 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,900 channel bag, Mambo, 363 00:22:53,130 --> 00:22:56,910 Mambo, Mambo channel word it my favorite word in Bitcoin 364 00:22:56,939 --> 00:23:02,429 one bow. And so instead of having, you know, 10, big, 365 00:23:02,429 --> 00:23:08,129 massive channels, we have several 100. Now, several 100 366 00:23:08,129 --> 00:23:13,919 small, smaller channels. And as it turns out, it's working this, 367 00:23:14,099 --> 00:23:16,709 you know, now that the the network itself is a little 368 00:23:16,709 --> 00:23:19,529 better, we become part of routing, you know, there's also 369 00:23:19,529 --> 00:23:23,159 multi path routing going on. And we're, we're a player, we're an 370 00:23:23,159 --> 00:23:29,249 actual player for smaller amounts. And because of the the 371 00:23:29,249 --> 00:23:33,209 nature of how the graph works, it's often just more efficient 372 00:23:33,209 --> 00:23:36,179 to run it through, you know, people that we're connected to. 373 00:23:37,470 --> 00:23:40,050 So Alice is a good thing. We got a big node. So 374 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:45,330 Ellen pay is very important important. A because so many 375 00:23:45,330 --> 00:23:51,720 wallets are hosted there. V LN PE has a huge, a huge pipe to 376 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,350 breeze. 377 00:23:53,250 --> 00:23:54,270 Yeah, that's a main 378 00:23:55,260 --> 00:23:58,260 thoroughfare, right. In the beginning, it was we were 379 00:23:58,260 --> 00:24:02,820 seeing, I was seeing Brees payments stack up. Because the 380 00:24:02,820 --> 00:24:05,880 fee would just be too high for the app to send something and I 381 00:24:05,910 --> 00:24:08,220 looked at the routes and like, holy crap, what's going on? 382 00:24:08,340 --> 00:24:11,220 Because we were really still, you know, the little little boys 383 00:24:11,220 --> 00:24:14,340 playing off in their own little spider web shit that no one was 384 00:24:14,340 --> 00:24:19,380 really into, or didn't have enough liquidity. And so you 385 00:24:19,380 --> 00:24:22,230 know, so now we have that beautiful hop from Ellen pay. So 386 00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:24,570 that's all taken care of now actually, what if you look at 387 00:24:24,570 --> 00:24:31,230 that? Is it to go podcasting.org I think go podcast. That's 388 00:24:31,230 --> 00:24:35,070 the graph. Visualization go podcasting.org 389 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,670 Let me see if it still works. Yeah, there it is. Yeah, the the 390 00:24:38,670 --> 00:24:44,220 cheese the cheese. Cheese or cheese robot. Yeah. I mean, the 391 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:49,440 the podcasting cloud is just unbelievable. Though it's huge. 392 00:24:49,470 --> 00:24:51,030 It's beautiful to see. 393 00:24:51,630 --> 00:24:54,240 This is a gorgeous graph and looked at this in a while. 394 00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:54,870 You're looking at it 395 00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:57,900 now I'm looking at it. Now. It's like where are we? You can do a 396 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,210 CTRL F and do podcasting can search. Yeah, where are we now? 397 00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:05,880 Podcast? 398 00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:08,430 Index. Here we are. 399 00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:12,270 Man look. Yeah, that's so cool. 400 00:25:12,330 --> 00:25:15,240 Isn't that beautiful? That's such a cool graph. 401 00:25:15,930 --> 00:25:18,270 There's a there's alien pay and then 402 00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:20,880 ACR breeze is connected to them. 403 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,220 Mm hmm. Yet they channel. So yeah, that's a critical that's 404 00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:29,970 that that stuff in the middle there. That's that's critical 405 00:25:29,970 --> 00:25:33,090 infrastructure right there for getting getting things routed 406 00:25:33,090 --> 00:25:33,990 quickly. Yeah. 407 00:25:34,590 --> 00:25:39,090 And so I see this tremendous opportunity. We talk about it 408 00:25:39,090 --> 00:25:45,030 and God bless people like Mark Hall and Abel Kirby and Sir 409 00:25:45,030 --> 00:25:48,720 Spencer for for doing this. Now we've got to move it to the next 410 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,380 level, we need to have different entry points it will never work 411 00:25:52,590 --> 00:25:56,670 with with a podcasting front end, it just won't. And and it's 412 00:25:56,670 --> 00:25:59,760 completely doable. tie into it, because we have so many web 413 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,030 developers, web developers, this lot more web developers and app 414 00:26:03,030 --> 00:26:04,650 developers, I'd say in our community. 415 00:26:05,459 --> 00:26:09,839 Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, they, yeah, web web 416 00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:13,739 development is, is just a more I mean, there's more web 417 00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:16,439 developers and app developers in the world. So that's, it's gonna 418 00:26:16,439 --> 00:26:21,779 mirror that. Yeah, clearly. Yeah. But then that that's fine. 419 00:26:21,779 --> 00:26:26,369 I mean, we've, there's some top notch app developer, really, 420 00:26:26,369 --> 00:26:31,649 somebody has to just see the vision. Yeah, and say, This is 421 00:26:31,649 --> 00:26:36,029 what this is what this thing should look like. And that 422 00:26:36,509 --> 00:26:39,119 because you it's like you said, it's all marketing, the data is 423 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,639 there, the data is going to be there no matter what, we're 424 00:26:41,639 --> 00:26:44,909 gonna have music feeds and documentary feeds and all this 425 00:26:44,909 --> 00:26:47,189 kind of stuff in the index. Yeah, so that stuff's gonna 426 00:26:47,189 --> 00:26:50,849 exist. But somebody has to come along and have the vision to 427 00:26:50,849 --> 00:26:57,389 say, Okay, here's the way that it would look to, to a music 428 00:26:57,689 --> 00:26:59,099 listener and music. 429 00:26:59,550 --> 00:27:03,300 And, and the market is there because I receive emails 430 00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:07,920 regularly, people saying, Hey, would this work for music, and I 431 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:13,500 point them to value for value.io There's a section there about 432 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:16,710 music as a section there about audio books, people who've done 433 00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:19,110 it who have implemented it actually got to update it to 434 00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:24,300 point to able, Kirby able Kirby project. So the demand is out 435 00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:26,640 there people are seeing musicians are some of the most 436 00:27:26,670 --> 00:27:28,710 entrepreneurial people in the world. 437 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,440 It has to be your food on the table, 438 00:27:31,469 --> 00:27:34,169 you got to get your merch together, you got to have your 439 00:27:34,199 --> 00:27:39,689 cheap places to stay, you know, you you're doing the marketing 440 00:27:39,689 --> 00:27:44,249 you you your girlfriend's is dancing out flyers, you know, 441 00:27:44,459 --> 00:27:49,859 that's, that's what it takes, but the everything's here. There 442 00:27:49,859 --> 00:27:55,919 was now we're now seeing private networks popping up of doctors 443 00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:58,619 who have left hospital systems and medical systems and they're 444 00:27:58,619 --> 00:28:02,729 now doing their own telemedicine because the technology is out 445 00:28:02,729 --> 00:28:04,439 there. They're building their own apps, they're putting their 446 00:28:04,439 --> 00:28:06,839 own stuff together their own beliefs everything's there you 447 00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,479 do not need Silicon Valley infrastructure anymore to do 448 00:28:09,479 --> 00:28:10,169 these things. 449 00:28:11,730 --> 00:28:16,500 And yes, you know, one one thing that I've been trying to okay so 450 00:28:16,590 --> 00:28:21,120 we had this problem with hell pad Yes, the Hello packet was 451 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:21,930 used Yeah, hello 452 00:28:21,930 --> 00:28:23,520 Pat. I love the Hello pad 453 00:28:24,990 --> 00:28:29,760 and so in testing that are trying to test the fixes for 454 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,100 that my my Umbro just can't get a route anywhere I'm trying to 455 00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:42,060 sin myself stuff. payments from it. Just like podcast apps 456 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,040 mountain breeze bought friend Yeah. And nothing comes through. 457 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,620 So what was really says it can't find a route. Well, what's 458 00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:51,990 your routing from your Umbral? What do you what are you 459 00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:52,740 connected to? 460 00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:58,620 connected to my personal node, my bigger personal node and I've 461 00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:01,500 got two channels open to podcast index. 462 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,470 Inbound to you you've got to you've got liquidity from the 463 00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:05,100 index. 464 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,960 I've got an outbound I've got 188,000 Set outbound and a 465 00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:17,700 200,000 set inbound from podcast index which is odd but actually 466 00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:22,560 if we try it right now, let me send myself 1000 SATs and I'm 467 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,660 just gonna try to pay it from strike and see if that works 468 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,270 because maybe we should have a route three from strike 469 00:29:32,340 --> 00:29:36,090 I think so. For sure. Yeah, I don't see I don't see why it 470 00:29:36,090 --> 00:29:39,150 gets into Ellen pay. Yeah, okay. Yeah, then sure. 471 00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:43,140 Let's see with it, huh? Nope. says oops, unable to find a 472 00:29:43,140 --> 00:29:46,440 payment route. That's what I'm getting. And I don't understand 473 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,870 why. No, no, we can troubleshoot it later. 474 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:51,660 Yeah, no, I don't I have some thoughts. But I have to look at 475 00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:56,040 I have to look at the I have to look at the are the eight the 476 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:01,530 8am one shit, and go see what's going on one. What's M one m one 477 00:30:01,530 --> 00:30:05,850 ml dot o when it yeah, whatever it is that thing, that thing. 478 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:14,670 Oh, before we go back to a different interfaces, Roku, Roku 479 00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:19,020 app that connects to the index would kick 480 00:30:19,140 --> 00:30:22,020 ass. Oh, that is a good idea. 481 00:30:22,050 --> 00:30:26,430 The no agenda Roku app has been on the Roku store and working 482 00:30:26,430 --> 00:30:32,430 for me for I want to say eight years. And even longer, maybe 483 00:30:32,430 --> 00:30:38,850 longer than that. It's a great platform. Now, I don't think it 484 00:30:38,850 --> 00:30:41,520 will be. I mean, it's possible someone could set it up where 485 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,970 maybe the wallet is disconnected from the app, and maybe you can 486 00:30:44,970 --> 00:30:47,850 make calls and maybe you can I don't know, maybe that'll work. 487 00:30:47,850 --> 00:30:52,740 I don't know. Someone should try it. It's worth it. Go everybody 488 00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:54,960 be the first we have video content. 489 00:30:55,980 --> 00:31:02,550 Yeah, I mean, just a simple UI, play a podcast player UI on. And 490 00:31:02,550 --> 00:31:08,610 then later when the medium stuff hits. You can you pull in video 491 00:31:08,610 --> 00:31:09,300 and all that stuff. 492 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,820 You know, I got about 20 years of cognition left. 493 00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:16,140 What? More than that, you know, 494 00:31:16,170 --> 00:31:19,170 what language language should I learn? I just gotta I just gotta 495 00:31:19,170 --> 00:31:22,020 develop the ship myself. I can't hang around for the developers. 496 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,500 What should I learn? What should I learn rust is rust my go to? 497 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:27,090 Is that what I need to learn? 498 00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:30,600 I would not suggest that is your first. My first 499 00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:36,930 Hey, hey, hey, I can do basic. I can do Python. And I can I can 500 00:31:36,930 --> 00:31:43,020 understand other stuff. Python. Just in Python. I can I yeah, I 501 00:31:43,020 --> 00:31:45,930 can just get my class on do it. The other day, I was so proud of 502 00:31:45,930 --> 00:31:48,960 myself. Apple script did Apple. Fuck you. That's that was that's 503 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,080 how it's done that Apple script is not documented. There's just 504 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,890 no documentation. This is apple script is horrible. And that 505 00:31:55,890 --> 00:31:59,430 just exists. And it was made for people like me. And that's 506 00:31:59,430 --> 00:32:03,570 actually how I found Dave Winer. His his crazy user user land. 507 00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:07,860 User script was better than Apple script. In fact, I think 508 00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:10,050 app Apple probably ripped the idea from him. 509 00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:13,830 There's just one programming language is supported by the 510 00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:17,010 Roku platform. And it's called Bright script. No brother write 511 00:32:17,010 --> 00:32:20,280 script, which is a Python like script. Oh, he was a go. There 512 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,180 you go Python. 513 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,650 Yeah. Yeah. That was so proud of myself. You know. So Tina, ever 514 00:32:25,650 --> 00:32:29,730 the marketing. And by the way, shame on us. And you'll hear why 515 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,280 every year around October. She's like, Okay, I want you to get 516 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,730 the top 100 donors for this year, ask Eric the top 100 517 00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:42,960 donors of all time, and you're going to email them. And it's, 518 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,450 of course, it's a great idea. And it should be personal. Okay, 519 00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:55,170 I'm good with that. So I get the list from Eric. And this year. I 520 00:32:55,170 --> 00:32:59,790 can do this. I can do a personal mail with a mail merge. And I 521 00:32:59,790 --> 00:33:02,700 could do it all with Mutt and command line and Python. And I 522 00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:09,540 did. And I saw I found it. I found a script, bare bones that 523 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,030 that interacted with mutt in batch mode. 524 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,940 And let me talk about mud. It cracks me the hell mine 525 00:33:14,970 --> 00:33:18,570 is powerful Mojo Baby, what is the shizzle? 526 00:33:19,050 --> 00:33:23,520 I know it is. But if you showed a normal human, any just random 527 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,030 normy off the internet might, their head would explode. 528 00:33:27,270 --> 00:33:31,380 You know, I've actually toyed around with him doing the Emacs 529 00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:35,550 email where it's in Emacs. Versus just so sexy. He's like, 530 00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:39,210 check my message, boom, right in a document. But you have to 531 00:33:39,210 --> 00:33:41,970 download it locally. So I don't want to do that. It doesn't work 532 00:33:41,970 --> 00:33:46,710 well with IMAP. So anyway, so So mutt just is fantastic. And then 533 00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:49,740 you know, I get the script all working. And, you know, it's 534 00:33:49,740 --> 00:33:52,380 basically just a script with a little bit of documentation from 535 00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:58,320 a GitHub. And then by immediately see, oh, my server 536 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,360 which Mark avoid zero maintains, it's like too many, too many TLS 537 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,680 connections go away bad man. Like, Oh, oops, okay. Yes, no, 538 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,350 good. So then I look at the script, like, Okay, I just need 539 00:34:10,350 --> 00:34:15,060 to do a 10 second pause. And I look at the script, you know, I 540 00:34:15,060 --> 00:34:17,730 try it now. That's not it, boom. Ah, there it is. I was just so 541 00:34:17,730 --> 00:34:22,050 proud of myself. And then I did what everybody should do. I went 542 00:34:22,050 --> 00:34:27,390 back to GitHub, posted a comment and issue I said, Hey, man, 543 00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:31,890 thank you for the script. Do you have a Bitcoin or lightning or 544 00:34:31,890 --> 00:34:34,620 shit even at PayPal, so I can buy a coffee or send you 545 00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:39,150 something? And the guy comes back he says, Oh my God, this 546 00:34:39,150 --> 00:34:41,850 thank you so much for posting this. It's really encouraged me 547 00:34:41,850 --> 00:34:44,820 to post more. It's just knowing that someone found that useful. 548 00:34:44,820 --> 00:34:47,430 That's great, please, I have a great job. Just give it to a 549 00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:50,670 local animal shelter. And I thought no way the world is 550 00:34:50,670 --> 00:34:52,380 fucking beautiful this way. 551 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,000 So this is okay. This is a thing that I had written down to talk 552 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:02,190 about months ago and we just never talked about it is it Why 553 00:35:02,190 --> 00:35:08,640 does there not exist? A some kind of site or something that 554 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,200 will interface with all known open source, valuable open 555 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:19,260 source projects and allow you to donate directly to them through 556 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,210 lightning. So something like I mean, it would essentially be 557 00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:28,350 like a podcast or wallet. But the open source project itself 558 00:35:28,350 --> 00:35:32,070 could go and sign up and say, you know, okay, here's our 559 00:35:32,070 --> 00:35:36,030 lightning node address. Here's our pub key. And if you want to 560 00:35:36,030 --> 00:35:40,170 donate to the project, like it's just a basically a page of a 561 00:35:40,170 --> 00:35:43,650 page of projects, and you click it and pops up a QR code, and 562 00:35:43,650 --> 00:35:47,400 you didn't you scan and donate. I mean, there's like an index 563 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,870 like a donation index for open source projects that should 564 00:35:51,870 --> 00:35:52,560 exist. 565 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,670 I don't know if that's the way to go. I mean, if the guy just 566 00:35:56,700 --> 00:36:00,180 posted a QR code right there on his GitHub page, that would be 567 00:36:00,180 --> 00:36:01,290 the same thing. No. 568 00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:06,360 Well, yeah, I'm just, I'm just thinking that you would have 569 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,050 some, you'd have some other goodies in there, like into 570 00:36:10,050 --> 00:36:14,550 being able to have donor booster grams and donations and all 571 00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:21,180 kinds of stuff. This looks almost like a like a Satoshi 572 00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:22,770 stream, but for podcast from, 573 00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:27,450 okay. Well, right, of course, these, that's always how we get 574 00:36:27,450 --> 00:36:35,790 there. Umbral has some kind of wonder if it's networkable. 575 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,780 There's some kind of Git Repository app that they have in 576 00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:43,260 the Umbral, I'm really high on this Umbral thing. This is I've 577 00:36:43,260 --> 00:36:46,440 always dreamed of this kind of box, and it's you know, I've, 578 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:50,730 I've connected my, I've set up the next cloud little next cloud 579 00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:53,640 on it, which then also connects to my email. So in a pinch, I 580 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:59,010 can tore into my Umbral node and fire up my email is beautiful. 581 00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:04,890 I'm so I'm so. And you know, like that layer in there? Well, 582 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:07,800 it's not that I don't like I love the concept. I'm so leery, 583 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,530 as well as cloud and own cloud and all those things. I'm 584 00:37:10,530 --> 00:37:14,310 afraid. They're so big, and there's so many lines of code, 585 00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:16,980 I'm just so afraid that they're gonna be like, some critical 586 00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:19,080 vulnerability, and they're gonna steal all my stuff. 587 00:37:19,889 --> 00:37:23,729 Yeah, that's possible. That's very possible. I've been I've 588 00:37:23,729 --> 00:37:28,859 been living with next cloud for a couple years love it. Then I 589 00:37:28,859 --> 00:37:35,129 just rent a server with cPanel. So I do have full control over 590 00:37:35,129 --> 00:37:39,989 it. And it is mine. But my email is is not on there that's owned. 591 00:37:39,989 --> 00:37:43,799 That's Mark does all that. So just IMAP has just some file 592 00:37:43,799 --> 00:37:49,439 storage and recipes. You know, pictures. Nothing critical, 593 00:37:49,439 --> 00:37:53,579 ever. But I hear what you're saying. But having it having it 594 00:37:53,579 --> 00:37:56,969 here at home? I mean, yeah, I mean, just having it behind Tor 595 00:37:56,969 --> 00:37:59,099 and all that is I feel pretty safe. 596 00:37:59,790 --> 00:38:06,030 That's probably the the, you know, my job for 20 to 2025 597 00:38:06,030 --> 00:38:10,110 years has been to be paranoid beyond belief. So that's 598 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,670 probably guessing. This is why 599 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:18,420 you're sick all the time. You worry, you worry too much, you 600 00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:26,760 worry too much. Anyway, the update to heli pad. Beautiful, 601 00:38:27,420 --> 00:38:31,830 works perfectly. I've got all the history in there. Love it. 602 00:38:31,830 --> 00:38:31,950 So I 603 00:38:31,950 --> 00:38:35,310 just need to do it, I just need to push. So the way they do this 604 00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:41,460 on the Umbro side is they try to see the app. There's an app 605 00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:45,510 registry file that has all of the apps listed, that you can 606 00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:50,940 install. And then they reference the Docker compose in the app in 607 00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:53,730 the app file, in the app folder, 608 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,000 micro services architecture, baby. And then 609 00:38:58,619 --> 00:39:03,239 they, and then that Docker compose file for the app, points 610 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:09,449 to the image on Docker Hub, and they but they tie it to a 611 00:39:09,449 --> 00:39:13,259 specific image hash. So I can't just 612 00:39:13,470 --> 00:39:18,090 change it out. Yeah. Well, that's, that's security. It is. 613 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,870 Yeah. Yeah, that's the that is the right way to do it. And so 614 00:39:21,870 --> 00:39:26,040 but that just means I'm going to have to do another cycle, bump 615 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,300 the version number, and then do a pull request to update the 616 00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:33,000 app. And hopefully, I can get that in there before this next 617 00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:38,820 for 11 cars. Yeah, nothing I think I can do they say you. 618 00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:40,650 I'll go through what the problem was. 619 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,730 Yeah, please. What can I tell everyone what the what the what 620 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:49,260 the result was what what I saw is I would have the most recent 621 00:39:49,260 --> 00:39:53,190 booster grams within the few hours. And then there were gaps. 622 00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:56,700 I had a three week gap. But Alternatively, it would have a 623 00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:59,700 different gap. There was just stuff missing and I was thanking 624 00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:02,640 people On curry in the keeper and missing a whole shitload of 625 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,240 people. So there was just gaps in the data. 626 00:40:07,799 --> 00:40:13,529 Well, there's, there were two actually two problems. The one 627 00:40:13,529 --> 00:40:16,469 is the one you were talking about what the gap. So you would 628 00:40:16,469 --> 00:40:19,649 have like a few recent ones, and then you'd hit this demarcation 629 00:40:19,649 --> 00:40:23,819 point where it would jump back, like, a month, and you would 630 00:40:23,849 --> 00:40:27,599 it'd be missing like three, four weeks, then, and it was always 631 00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:31,079 random. It was different than that. There was another problem, 632 00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:34,169 though, that would happen. And when James Crillon ran into this 633 00:40:34,169 --> 00:40:39,209 a few times, and I think maybe you ran into this a few times as 634 00:40:39,209 --> 00:40:43,409 well, or Braun of London, I can't remember. But I never 635 00:40:43,409 --> 00:40:48,059 could replicate it on my side. And this, this thing that 636 00:40:48,059 --> 00:40:53,939 happened was, you would fire up helipad. And it would come up 637 00:40:53,939 --> 00:40:56,129 and say that it's building the database, and there's nothing to 638 00:40:56,129 --> 00:40:56,609 show. Yeah, 639 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,840 well, that that was that way, always until, if you and then I 640 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,440 would send myself a booster gram or a boost, they would pew and 641 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,530 then the minute that happens, the show older boosts link would 642 00:41:07,530 --> 00:41:08,130 show up. 643 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:14,160 Okay, so that both of these were essentially caused by the same, 644 00:41:14,370 --> 00:41:19,590 the same issue, but in two different manifestations. What 645 00:41:19,590 --> 00:41:25,110 goes on with helipad is that it? It builds, it maintains help had 646 00:41:25,110 --> 00:41:29,220 the app maintains its own database of every invoice that's 647 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:35,430 in the note. So when you first install it, it sucks all of the 648 00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:39,480 invoices, all the lightning invoices out of lnd into its own 649 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,830 database, and each one of those has an index number. And it's 650 00:41:43,830 --> 00:41:47,820 just constantly keeping is polling lnd every few seconds to 651 00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:53,340 say, is there a new invoice yet, right. And if there are it sucks 652 00:41:53,340 --> 00:41:59,970 it and so it's always keeping sync between the two. In order 653 00:41:59,970 --> 00:42:05,250 to show the booster grams, you it ends up having to go 654 00:42:05,580 --> 00:42:09,150 backwards in the database and forwards depending on what's 655 00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:13,590 being on what's happening. So sometimes you want to go back 656 00:42:13,590 --> 00:42:16,170 and show historical information. So you need to have sort of a 657 00:42:16,170 --> 00:42:19,860 descending search to say Okay, start from this index and go and 658 00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:24,060 show me everything older. And then some but for new booster 659 00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:27,450 grams that are coming in from New invoices. You want to say, 660 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:33,060 Okay, start with this index and show me everything newer. So you 661 00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:35,220 can go in, you can go either backwards 662 00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:38,310 or for right shoulder boosts is going backwards. 663 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:44,910 Yeah. And so with in a certain scenario, what was what was 664 00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:48,450 happening is it was getting the direction wrong. And so it would 665 00:42:48,450 --> 00:42:52,110 say he would get into a state and he would say, okay, here is 666 00:42:52,110 --> 00:42:55,380 show me, show me this. Here's Okay, start from this index and 667 00:42:55,380 --> 00:42:59,280 show me everything newer than this. But there's nothing new or 668 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,610 to show. And so it would just come up and say there's nothing 669 00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:07,740 there. Right? And that it ended up it was just a couple of typos 670 00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:08,220 really 671 00:43:08,310 --> 00:43:11,010 have happened to me all the time in Python. 672 00:43:12,180 --> 00:43:18,450 Yes. In bright script, yeah. Bright script. And so that's 673 00:43:18,450 --> 00:43:21,660 really what it boiled down to was it was kind of like to two 674 00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:25,980 changes. One, it was an extra piece of logic to see what was 675 00:43:26,010 --> 00:43:28,530 was being asked for from the front end. And the other one was 676 00:43:28,530 --> 00:43:35,130 just a pure, like typo. Once you fix those, now, it's, it's 677 00:43:35,130 --> 00:43:38,760 seeing everything, it's using the proper direction, anytime 678 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,360 that it's asking for certain stuff. Because if you think 679 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,790 about it, like the reason it needs to go forward in the 680 00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:49,290 database sometimes is let's just say that you're up that you're 681 00:43:49,290 --> 00:43:52,110 up to date. And so every all the booster grams shown on the 682 00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:58,140 screen are current. Well, now what you want is you want to say 683 00:43:58,740 --> 00:44:01,980 you want to be polling the back the polling the hell pad back in 684 00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:05,250 and saying is there here's my current index, let's just say 685 00:44:05,250 --> 00:44:12,690 it's 125 you want to say alright, index 125 show me 686 00:44:12,690 --> 00:44:15,690 things that are newer than that. And just want to keep saying 687 00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:18,900 that over and over and it'll in some never shows up this newer 688 00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,800 than that that's a home 126 or 127. Right? It'll give it back. 689 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,560 Otherwise, if you're having to do a descending you would have 690 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:31,710 to you'd have to just pick some random number and say okay, one 691 00:44:31,710 --> 00:44:37,410 to 137 Let's just say okay, I'll go ahead 2020 ticks on the index 692 00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:39,450 count is show me everything older than that and you're 693 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,020 constantly having to sort of like guess and it worked. I 694 00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:46,860 mean, it would work it would catch up with itself, but I 695 00:44:46,860 --> 00:44:50,550 don't know I like it seems cleaner the other way to me. And 696 00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:57,990 so then with the with the boost with the booster grant what was 697 00:44:57,990 --> 00:45:04,230 triggering the issue You What I found was triggering the issue 698 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,640 with it showing up and saying that it was the database wasn't 699 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,740 finished being built yet. It was the direction issue. But 700 00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:21,570 specifically, what was happening is if you created an invoice and 701 00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:26,910 it didn't get paid, yes suck that invoice into the hell pad 702 00:45:26,910 --> 00:45:33,600 database with as a blank right it was it was an unsettled 703 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,450 invoice. Yeah, with zero data in it. 704 00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:39,479 That invoice bogus. 705 00:45:42,090 --> 00:45:45,000 And it happened to me back then, because I was trying to fund I 706 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:52,230 was trying to get my my Umbral to route payments. And so I'm 707 00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:53,970 like, Okay, I'm just going to try to pay an invoice from 708 00:45:53,970 --> 00:45:58,110 strike. I created an invoice, tried to pay it, and then the 709 00:45:58,110 --> 00:46:00,810 next switch back over to hell pad and refreshed and it blew 710 00:46:00,810 --> 00:46:03,630 up. It just said your data, you don't have a database, or 711 00:46:03,630 --> 00:46:09,000 there's nothing to show you. Oh, oh, okay. So go over to the 712 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,930 SQLite database look, and it's sitting on the current index is 713 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,800 one of those blank, unsettled invoices. Oh, okay. Got it. 714 00:46:16,830 --> 00:46:21,450 Then. Then I just add, I added another invoice manually as if a 715 00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:26,130 new booster Graham had come in, boom, it was fixed. And so that 716 00:46:26,850 --> 00:46:30,990 that was also an extra fix that had to go in. So anyway, it's 717 00:46:31,230 --> 00:46:33,600 the I'll push a new version, hopefully and get it in under 718 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,080 the wire 719 00:46:34,110 --> 00:46:37,590 guys. Kicking ass. It's beautiful. Yeah, 720 00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:40,620 you know, I think I rushed this thing out the door. And a lot of 721 00:46:40,620 --> 00:46:43,710 ways it went as fast as I could. And so I think at some point in 722 00:46:43,710 --> 00:46:47,040 the future probably want to do the UI thing or before we pull 723 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:53,610 in the new UI that Khalil I think I'm going to do some 724 00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:57,360 refactoring to make that, that because what I think what needs 725 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,200 to happen more than keeping, keeping everything perfectly in 726 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,760 sync is like by sucking in every invoice. What I think is better 727 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,610 is to just have a running counter of whatever the current 728 00:47:08,610 --> 00:47:15,630 lnd invoice index is. Just keep that there as a single value in 729 00:47:15,630 --> 00:47:18,780 the database. And then that way, I don't have to pull in every 730 00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:22,350 single invoice. I can only pull in just the booster grams. 731 00:47:23,550 --> 00:47:28,380 Okay, ready to have your mind blown? Yeah, blow it. Okay. This 732 00:47:28,380 --> 00:47:34,500 can also work in reverse. So Oh, I hear that. Yeah, maybe? Yes. 733 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:45,090 Yeah. It was it. It was it was a boost for no agenda. No, okay. 734 00:47:45,090 --> 00:47:48,330 Not a booster, just the boost. So it can also work in reverse 735 00:47:48,330 --> 00:47:50,700 people have an unrolled they pick up what is this Halle pad 736 00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:54,990 thing? Yeah, it can be an onboarding step. 737 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,660 Oh, huh. 738 00:47:58,770 --> 00:48:04,950 Okay, it's your API calls in. It's a few. It's a beautiful 739 00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:10,200 onboarding place. It is. You've just created an entry point, an 740 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,060 entry point for podcasters. 741 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,530 There needs to be a link on there to link out to, to some 742 00:48:16,770 --> 00:48:21,270 way to create a feed. Maybe the genie. 743 00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:26,339 Oh, my God. See how all the pieces are coming together? 744 00:48:26,970 --> 00:48:30,510 Yes. Are you there? Yes. Now you leave link out and I don't know 745 00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:32,880 this. That's the I like this onboarding thing, because then 746 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:37,980 you pull in the do it the DIY guys, huh? 747 00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:43,139 Like they're out there. That's what podcasters are. Yeah. 748 00:48:43,229 --> 00:48:45,389 podcasters are DIY guys. 749 00:48:45,929 --> 00:48:49,619 And the next cloud guys, I mean, these guys are gonna want to own 750 00:48:49,619 --> 00:48:55,199 every they want to own every link in the chain. Right? Now, 751 00:48:55,229 --> 00:48:58,559 you got a you have the Umbral with the, you know, two 752 00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:03,329 terabytes of disk space on it, turn it into a podcast, podcast, 753 00:49:03,749 --> 00:49:04,709 magic box. 754 00:49:05,010 --> 00:49:09,510 Well, that's been there for now, when I posted that I was talking 755 00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:13,590 about IPFS, maybe IPFS. On the Umbral, I got a lot of pushback, 756 00:49:13,590 --> 00:49:15,630 and pretty much everyone says now there's just better 757 00:49:15,630 --> 00:49:18,780 protocols now the web, Tor and all this stuff is just so much 758 00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:19,350 better. 759 00:49:20,579 --> 00:49:25,169 My problem with ifs is is so crashy it crashes all the time. 760 00:49:25,169 --> 00:49:30,329 And it's so like, at least once a week, if not more, I get an 761 00:49:30,329 --> 00:49:32,129 email from our Oh, yes. 762 00:49:32,130 --> 00:49:35,310 Yeah, broken broken DB download or see it 763 00:49:35,369 --> 00:49:39,059 now. Yeah. And it's usually because the IPFS daemon crashed 764 00:49:39,059 --> 00:49:42,029 and it's been resurrected halfway through a download. Yes, 765 00:49:42,269 --> 00:49:44,909 it is bothersome. And this 766 00:49:44,910 --> 00:49:48,570 is, and this is exactly what it's meant for is for huge data 767 00:49:48,570 --> 00:49:54,240 files. That was how was developed. Topic, opportunity 768 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:59,430 amount is everywhere. Since IPFS. Powers many of the NFT 769 00:49:59,430 --> 00:50:03,060 craze We promised on our last episode which by the way, thank 770 00:50:03,060 --> 00:50:06,630 you for finishing was hilarious what happened on the last show? 771 00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:10,200 No one noticed it. But I will tell people what happened. 772 00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:13,319 I didn't even hear the last I didn't even hear the last part 773 00:50:13,499 --> 00:50:14,459 at all. You 774 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,610 wouldn't you wouldn't know that it was disaster here in the hill 775 00:50:17,610 --> 00:50:20,910 country. Yes. Because your skills are also first of all, 776 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,970 the show's running long. We're doing it with James and you 777 00:50:23,970 --> 00:50:26,280 know, we're really appreciative because you got up early and 778 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,000 everything. And you know, so we're running on close to two 779 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,710 hours and I knew that Mark Hall was coming at now. It's dark now 780 00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:37,830 and Tina can't turn on the lights because of the dimmer 781 00:50:37,830 --> 00:50:41,340 buzzer. She's literally cooking dinner with a flashlight. I can 782 00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:45,870 feel her Siri Yes, I can feel her angst and she's texting me 783 00:50:45,870 --> 00:50:50,190 like, are you almost there? And and so I'm listening and we're 784 00:50:50,190 --> 00:50:52,500 talking and you're like, oh, James, one more thing about a 785 00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:56,670 life philosophy. I've always wanted to question you on some 786 00:50:56,670 --> 00:50:59,850 I'm like, Oh my God, that's another 15 minutes. And then 787 00:50:59,910 --> 00:51:05,370 Mark comes to the door. he rings the doorbell. Phoebe, the the 90 788 00:51:05,370 --> 00:51:10,440 pound akbash just just flipping out. Tina's not ready. You know, 789 00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:14,130 the dog feels this. He looks like a fucking bear, like a 790 00:51:14,130 --> 00:51:18,930 Russian black bear in the dog. And I'm hitting, you know, I'm 791 00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:22,620 trying to go back and forth. And I finally say to Dave and, and 792 00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:27,150 James, I say, Hey, you guys just finished it up. Merry Christmas. 793 00:51:27,330 --> 00:51:30,270 I got to deal with the situation. So I came back an 794 00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:33,690 hour later, and the recorder was still running. And I was able to 795 00:51:33,690 --> 00:51:37,470 piece it all together. So no one was the Wiser until I spoiled 796 00:51:37,470 --> 00:51:38,100 it. There you go. 797 00:51:38,130 --> 00:51:41,100 perfectly understandable. This is wife management. 1010. 798 00:51:41,610 --> 00:51:45,990 Yeah. Let's just say spout partner management, shall 799 00:51:45,989 --> 00:51:46,709 we? Okay. 800 00:51:49,980 --> 00:51:54,750 I got to Oh, yeah. So anyway, and as a part of that, we cut 801 00:51:54,750 --> 00:51:59,670 the show short, because you said Hey, should we joke about NF Ts? 802 00:51:59,670 --> 00:52:03,090 Is it now? No, no, no, let's let's let's wind this up. So 803 00:52:03,570 --> 00:52:09,030 your life is good as well. Have you ever bought an in if 804 00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:16,410 I have received an NFT s months ago, someone created a no agenda 805 00:52:16,410 --> 00:52:23,670 NFT and said, Here, install Netmask and do this Weeki Wachee 806 00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:28,920 Wookiee and then I opened it, and I got $7 or something. And 807 00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:30,900 honestly, I have not looked since. 808 00:52:32,099 --> 00:52:35,999 Would you like to know how you how you go about buying an NFT? 809 00:52:36,059 --> 00:52:39,839 It's Metamask? I'm sorry? Yeah. Metamask? Yeah. 810 00:52:41,099 --> 00:52:45,599 Well, yeah, yeah. How the hell do I do that? How does this work 811 00:52:45,899 --> 00:52:52,349 with the the guys over at mere mortals? One specifically, he 812 00:52:52,349 --> 00:52:55,709 walked through the process of him buying some NF T's. I think 813 00:52:55,709 --> 00:53:01,949 these are like, dinosaur? Yeah, I don't know. This is Part 814 00:53:01,949 --> 00:53:05,549 honors. I guess these are images like you have these collector, 815 00:53:05,729 --> 00:53:12,089 NF T's. They're like images of a dinosaur or a gorilla or sexy? 816 00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:16,739 Oh, yeah. It's great. It's top notch. Yeah. So he will include 817 00:53:16,739 --> 00:53:21,809 one he walks through how the buying of the NF T's work. 818 00:53:22,260 --> 00:53:25,830 We talk a lot about NF T's and a lot of other things I won't go 819 00:53:25,830 --> 00:53:29,130 too much into, into depth into what they are. But basically, 820 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,390 it's an NF T right of dinosaurs. But they were minting I got, I 821 00:53:33,390 --> 00:53:36,420 was fortunate enough that I was able to get pre minting, which 822 00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:39,240 basically meant I was able to purchase the particular NF T's 823 00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:42,210 before they actually went on public sale. So that might be 824 00:53:42,210 --> 00:53:45,870 like pre IPO or pre. That's the example. So pre IPO pre 825 00:53:45,900 --> 00:53:49,320 everybody getting in. Cool. So I purchased four of them, have one 826 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,630 of them, which I gave to a good friend of mine. Cool, fantastic. 827 00:53:51,930 --> 00:53:54,660 Now, there was no trouble saying but and I did mention this to 828 00:53:54,660 --> 00:53:56,880 you the way that you actually had to do it. And it was a 829 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,970 little bit of a manual process was they would basically say, 830 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,280 how many did you want in a basically a message through this 831 00:54:02,340 --> 00:54:05,580 channel? How many do you want? I would say I want four, they 832 00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:08,310 would give you the address and you just sent money there. And 833 00:54:08,310 --> 00:54:11,700 you will have to just hope, interest that they're gonna send 834 00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:15,120 it back now they did. Right. And I was saying to you look, there 835 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,820 was obviously some trust built up in the fact that these people 836 00:54:17,940 --> 00:54:21,090 had heard them talking, you know, asked me anything style 837 00:54:21,090 --> 00:54:24,480 questionnaires. I've interacted with them message them. That 838 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,700 seemed cool. I wasn't too worried. I was like, I want to 839 00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:30,240 share screen share with you and no, no, but I was like, let's 840 00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:32,670 say maybe it was a point 2% Doubt, right. 841 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,810 So the evidently the way or one of the common one of the ways 842 00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:43,620 that you buy an FTS is you just randomly send somebody money and 843 00:54:43,620 --> 00:54:47,100 hope that they send you an NFT that's essentially what this was 844 00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:47,610 boiled down. 845 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,870 Oh, that's what they call a smart contract. Yes, sir. I 846 00:54:51,870 --> 00:54:56,430 actually was just able to open my meta mask wallet and sitting 847 00:54:56,430 --> 00:55:05,820 there I have 0.0159 eath equals $58.86. So my, my, my winnings 848 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:12,000 went up since I got my, my, my EF the NFT money. Wait, I 849 00:55:12,030 --> 00:55:16,080 do have an asset once this is appreciated in value. Yes, I 850 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:21,150 have. Okay. So that that sounds kind of weird so that I thought 851 00:55:21,150 --> 00:55:25,080 you would because I know when I when I got mine, it was like a 852 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,520 click and then it was said you got it and fuck I don't remember 853 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,140 Dave, it probably wasn't there to 854 00:55:31,140 --> 00:55:35,310 be some sort of encrypted Yeah. Field purchase process or 855 00:55:35,310 --> 00:55:38,670 handoff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Then interact with the blockchain. 856 00:55:39,060 --> 00:55:42,810 This is all this is web. 3.0 baby. Yeah, this has got to be 857 00:55:42,810 --> 00:55:43,200 like, 858 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,700 web three, not 3.0. It's 3.3 with 3.3. 859 00:55:48,570 --> 00:55:52,560 But, I mean, okay, so that's dicey, but at least, like the 860 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,130 actual purchase purchasing of the NF T, I mean, the 861 00:55:56,130 --> 00:55:59,370 transaction itself, that's got to be solid, right? I mean, you 862 00:55:59,370 --> 00:56:01,290 would think that but let's listen to clip to 863 00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:04,739 what added to this though. Like, I'm thankful I didn't partake in 864 00:56:04,739 --> 00:56:07,109 this cuz I was gonna buy more unreleased, and I was like, 865 00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:10,259 Dude, this sounds crazy. And then there were so many people 866 00:56:10,259 --> 00:56:14,039 like that the channel disco channel went from, they said 867 00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:17,279 seven and a half 1000 8000 people to 15,000 in about 20 868 00:56:17,279 --> 00:56:20,669 minutes. And there was so many people messaging, it crashed a 869 00:56:20,669 --> 00:56:24,749 whole discord channel, which at the same time, those bots and 870 00:56:24,779 --> 00:56:27,059 this happens all the time and space. Those bots and other 871 00:56:27,059 --> 00:56:30,539 people creating fake discord channels sending you missed as 872 00:56:30,539 --> 00:56:33,119 being like, Oh, hey, guys, this is the actual disco channel, 873 00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:35,369 send us the money. And people were sending money all over the 874 00:56:35,369 --> 00:56:40,259 place. And shit. And so they finally got the thing back and 875 00:56:40,259 --> 00:56:42,629 had to put like, all these downs being like, I hope nobody sent 876 00:56:42,629 --> 00:56:45,179 all this money because like there was messages all over the 877 00:56:45,179 --> 00:56:48,179 place. Like this was the worst release ever. Like I lost all my 878 00:56:48,179 --> 00:56:50,909 money bought, etc, etc, etc. Yeah, I 879 00:56:50,909 --> 00:56:55,979 think there's the the releasing of the NF Ts and I believe 880 00:56:56,009 --> 00:57:00,209 Marvel works with a company that does this professionally. So it 881 00:57:00,209 --> 00:57:03,419 does take some actual infrastructure to set it up and 882 00:57:03,569 --> 00:57:07,049 and have it work in some orderly fashion. I think discord channel 883 00:57:07,049 --> 00:57:10,739 was kind of, you know, kind of the DIY way, which you know, is 884 00:57:11,279 --> 00:57:13,139 you get what you pay for type deal. 885 00:57:13,769 --> 00:57:19,469 DIY and out and in. In the south, we call that half ass 886 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,480 is what it sounds like. 887 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,550 But I mean, like, okay, so fine. Everybody makes mistakes to get 888 00:57:26,550 --> 00:57:32,580 all. Yeah, nothing, nothing is perfect. But at least they have, 889 00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:36,450 you know, communication channels secure and everything. So, at 890 00:57:36,450 --> 00:57:40,470 least the process of at least this this plan B sort of discord 891 00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:43,410 process. I mean, at least that is dependable. I mean, you would 892 00:57:43,410 --> 00:57:46,140 think yeah, maybe clip three. 893 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,530 What added to this story. Like I'm thankful I didn't partake in 894 00:57:49,530 --> 00:57:51,900 this because I was gonna buy more unreleased, and I was like, 895 00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:55,020 Dude, this sounds crazy. And then there was so many people 896 00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:57,810 like that the channel, disco channel went from 897 00:57:57,810 --> 00:57:59,580 it. This is the same as clip two. 898 00:58:00,780 --> 00:58:02,970 It's not supposed to be exact. I played 899 00:58:02,970 --> 00:58:04,710 did I play the wrong clip? Hold on a second. 900 00:58:06,780 --> 00:58:07,830 Are they the same tonight? 901 00:58:09,329 --> 00:58:11,279 Now, I don't know how they found this out. 902 00:58:11,550 --> 00:58:15,210 I think I played clips three instead of clip two. Wait, let 903 00:58:15,210 --> 00:58:15,540 me see what 904 00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:18,420 this what added to the story. Like, I'm thankful I didn't 905 00:58:18,420 --> 00:58:20,970 partake in this because I was gonna buy more on release. And I 906 00:58:20,970 --> 00:58:23,880 was like, Dude, this sounds crazy. And then there was so 907 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,870 many people so that the channel does go channel went from, they 908 00:58:27,870 --> 00:58:28,950 said seven and a half. Yeah, 909 00:58:28,980 --> 00:58:30,990 we played that one. I guess I played him out of order. I'm 910 00:58:30,990 --> 00:58:32,610 sorry. That's okay. 911 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:37,200 Now, I don't know how they found this out. But there's actually 912 00:58:37,590 --> 00:58:40,950 like, not not what to say well known hackers, but people know 913 00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:44,100 that people going to hack a particular release. So this one 914 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,860 COMM The actual public release was going to happen in two days. 915 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,100 And they found out hey, this group, which I think is called a 916 00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:54,240 seven to one or something, but like, they were going to go and 917 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,300 hack their sale. And what that meant was, you know, there was 918 00:58:57,300 --> 00:59:00,930 usually a limit of like, you can only buy 10 or 15, or five off 919 00:59:00,930 --> 00:59:04,680 particular thing. But they could get around in the contract, just 920 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,200 like I'm only going into it just very technically, they could 921 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,290 mess around with the contract. So they could buy 1000 of them 922 00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:13,500 for the money. But they're about 1000 Then all of a sudden, they 923 00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:16,230 have like a monopoly or not a monopoly, but a really large 924 00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:18,570 portion of them and they control a lot of the price. So people 925 00:59:18,570 --> 00:59:20,970 don't want that because it's happened before. So what they 926 00:59:20,970 --> 00:59:25,740 decided to do was they would basically like the last 1015 927 00:59:25,740 --> 00:59:28,200 minutes before the public release. The sentiment is being 928 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,800 like no, we're about to get like hacked, we do not want to do 929 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,710 this to happen. So they delayed the release and what they did 930 00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:38,400 was okay, you have to send us a message on the discord channel 931 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,100 with a particular way and tell us how many you want we're gonna 932 00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:44,010 limit it to three I think they're saying there's limited 933 00:59:44,010 --> 00:59:47,340 to three dinosaurs. You have to message us and it was just going 934 00:59:47,340 --> 00:59:50,040 to be a first come first serve or you message us you send us 935 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,790 the money to a particular dress and like you might get you might 936 00:59:53,790 --> 00:59:55,890 not you have no idea what on the list this 937 00:59:56,159 --> 00:59:59,729 guy so I apologize. I played I played him out of order. That's 938 00:59:59,729 --> 01:00:02,669 okay. but it's still I mean, like, and then the distorting of 939 01:00:02,669 --> 01:00:06,779 did nothing is this thing is a complete disaster. Well, okay, 940 01:00:06,779 --> 01:00:10,289 so from the Marvel standpoint, I'll tell you what I can tell 941 01:00:10,289 --> 01:00:16,799 you in essence, what's going on and they do not have these 942 01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:20,159 issues. So I know that they have a partner, I forget who it is. I 943 01:00:20,159 --> 01:00:24,449 think it is the IPFS guys actually, who built the NFT type 944 01:00:24,449 --> 01:00:28,559 business out of this vivo or veto or something like that. 945 01:00:29,759 --> 01:00:34,319 Could probably look it up. So that's pretty orderly, whatever 946 01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:37,199 they're doing, but they're they're taking it in exactly the 947 01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:40,979 same direction as the baseball trading cards. So you're going 948 01:00:40,979 --> 01:00:45,209 to see packages, and they're their assets are the 949 01:00:45,209 --> 01:00:48,869 superheroes, the comic books, you know that the whole business 950 01:00:48,899 --> 01:00:53,669 of this Marvel Entertainment is licensing? So the everything in 951 01:00:53,669 --> 01:00:56,219 the comic, but all that imagery, all the words, they own all of 952 01:00:56,219 --> 01:00:57,119 that? So 953 01:00:57,149 --> 01:00:58,619 he's ZeeVee? 954 01:00:58,650 --> 01:01:01,710 Yeah, I think that sounds right. Vive. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So 955 01:01:02,820 --> 01:01:07,740 remind me to tell you about that. So they're going to 956 01:01:07,740 --> 01:01:11,940 package that up. But you you pay like 100 bucks. And that could 957 01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:16,230 be, you know, there could be $1,000 valuable rookie card in 958 01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:18,900 there. But it's more likely you've got 80 bucks worth of 959 01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:19,830 cards, right? 960 01:01:20,670 --> 01:01:23,550 Ran that you have like the commons and uncommons and the 961 01:01:23,550 --> 01:01:26,430 rares. And, yeah, yeah, he's a trading card. 962 01:01:26,430 --> 01:01:29,490 Yeah, yeah. He says, there's really two audiences. You have 963 01:01:29,490 --> 01:01:32,910 the audience that there's really into this and hopes to find 964 01:01:32,910 --> 01:01:35,670 something valuable. Then you have the people who have a lot 965 01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:38,760 of money, who when they were poor, and young, couldn't buy 966 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,760 the the cool card. And so they go out and they spend whatever 967 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,990 they need to just to do it. Right. It says ultimately, this 968 01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:49,800 will wind up with a very small percentage being extremely 969 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,520 valuable than all the rest of shit is worth worthless. It's 970 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:58,920 completely worthless. What was interesting is my old buddy, my 971 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,930 old agent from Hollywood call me a couple weeks ago. Matthew last 972 01:02:03,930 --> 01:02:09,000 year super agent Lasher. Matthew, how you doing? Oh, 973 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,690 yeah. He said, Matthew, how you doing? 974 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,520 Sounds like yes, the Penthouse magazine. 975 01:02:20,970 --> 01:02:25,350 Oh, that was the hard part is whenever you call me Hey, man. I 976 01:02:25,350 --> 01:02:30,240 can't help but do his voice. He says, I have a client. I guess I 977 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:36,840 have a client and he wants to do an NFT and and I just wanted the 978 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,230 right partner. I said well, my buddy he knows the right partner 979 01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:47,670 who's your client? Say Brian is it Brian cross Brian cross from 980 01:02:49,260 --> 01:03:00,150 succession? I'm Brian cross my second sucks show Cox. Brian 981 01:03:00,150 --> 01:03:04,260 come by Brian Cox. I'm sorry. Yes. Okay. Brian Cox. So have 982 01:03:04,260 --> 01:03:06,870 you ever seen succession? No. Okay, so 983 01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:09,060 Brian never even heard of Brian Cox. 984 01:03:09,090 --> 01:03:13,170 Is it Brian Cox? Is that right? Yeah. Brian Cox. So he's this 985 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,280 this he's an older actor and he plays the patriarch of this. 986 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,940 You're basically like a Murdoch type type guy of a media company 987 01:03:20,940 --> 01:03:24,120 and his kids are all fuck ups you know and he wants to cut 988 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,400 them all out and they're all fight the whole thing everything 989 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,640 and it's having known a couple of wealthy families like this 990 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,480 it's pretty accurate I would say in the in the kind of shit that 991 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:39,930 goes on. But he's his kind of line in the in the series is 992 01:03:39,930 --> 01:03:49,170 this fuck off. And then turning that into an NFT he apparently 993 01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:52,380 he makes like five grand a pop on cameo. Are you familiar with 994 01:03:52,380 --> 01:03:56,850 cameo? No, it's approached me several times. Now. Cameo was an 995 01:03:56,850 --> 01:04:00,660 app and Snoop Dogg. A whole bunch of actors do it. I just 996 01:04:00,660 --> 01:04:03,540 can't bring myself to do it. And you could set a price you say 997 01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:06,240 you want a personal video message from Adam curry. It'll 998 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,200 be you know, $2,000 and through the app, they pay for it and 999 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,010 then you do it. 1000 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:16,800 Essentially, those people that ask us to do exactly the same 1001 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:17,820 thing for $1 1002 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:26,820 If that so, so he gets $5,000 I think we're just doing a Dave 1003 01:04:26,820 --> 01:04:31,530 Jones fuck off. Five grand for that. Sounds like shit. We got 1004 01:04:31,530 --> 01:04:35,310 to do NF T's and they're doing it. This would be a Brian Cox 1005 01:04:35,310 --> 01:04:36,000 and ft. 1006 01:04:38,850 --> 01:04:45,750 I mean, I just don't you know. I understand that NF T's I 1007 01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:49,230 understand that they can be valuable in certain context as 1008 01:04:49,230 --> 01:04:54,690 I'm not Pooh poohing the whole idea of an NF t mean because 1009 01:04:54,690 --> 01:04:57,180 essentially an NF t is just a cryptographically 1010 01:04:57,179 --> 01:04:59,969 secure proof of ownership is honest. Yeah. 1011 01:05:00,359 --> 01:05:04,259 Yeah. And that in and of itself is, is a sales 1012 01:05:04,260 --> 01:05:09,090 receipt. Yeah. But without the goods, if it's digital, I 1013 01:05:09,090 --> 01:05:11,610 believe in NF T's for physical goods. I think that's a pretty 1014 01:05:11,610 --> 01:05:12,480 interesting idea. 1015 01:05:13,650 --> 01:05:18,030 So and I could see it as being sort of a token that you can 1016 01:05:18,030 --> 01:05:23,040 pass around to give people well, here's, 1017 01:05:23,070 --> 01:05:26,010 here's how I would do mission for things or here's Yeah, 1018 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:30,000 here's how I would do it. If we were going to do an NFT. It 1019 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,480 would be none. No, we're not going to I'm just saying if 1020 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:38,550 there would be numbered T shirts. And you 1021 01:05:38,579 --> 01:05:40,019 can't even get real T shirts out 1022 01:05:40,020 --> 01:05:46,260 there. Hey, let's thank some people. The real the real 1023 01:05:46,260 --> 01:05:50,250 business, which is value for value, the whole podcast index 1024 01:05:50,250 --> 01:05:54,270 project is value for value this podcast is value for value. We 1025 01:05:54,270 --> 01:05:57,840 have been delivering value and we love receiving value back 1026 01:05:57,900 --> 01:06:01,800 every developer, every thinker, every podcaster, who was 1027 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,950 contributed is a part of this system. Go read Gee gees 1028 01:06:04,950 --> 01:06:09,360 article, you see the you're part of a trend that that has been 1029 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,560 around for 1000s of years. But yeah, we are resurrecting with 1030 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,800 our new tools, which can be very proud proud of what we're doing. 1031 01:06:17,699 --> 01:06:22,139 Is section of that article on maximizing profits. Yeah. Top 1032 01:06:22,139 --> 01:06:22,799 notch. Yes. 1033 01:06:23,969 --> 01:06:28,859 So who do we thank today for supporting, supporting 1034 01:06:28,859 --> 01:06:29,849 everything, Dave? 1035 01:06:30,990 --> 01:06:35,730 out of the gate? We're thanking Benjamin and Ben and Roberto 1036 01:06:35,730 --> 01:06:42,930 from rss.com. Who gave us $1,800.57 Oh, my 1037 01:06:43,650 --> 01:06:49,680 goodness. Sakala 20 is Blaze only. Now does this come after I 1038 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:54,780 post my posts on podcast index dot social that oh, by the way, 1039 01:06:54,780 --> 01:06:59,460 everybody? The hosting guys are supporting us more than anybody. 1040 01:06:59,820 --> 01:07:04,500 Yeah, they put up poor mouth this and, and made everybody 1041 01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:07,950 step up, which they did in a huge weigh. It 1042 01:07:07,949 --> 01:07:11,189 seems like everybody stepped up and that was really 1043 01:07:11,189 --> 01:07:15,629 heartwarming. You know, it's because it's easy to forget. And 1044 01:07:15,629 --> 01:07:18,539 I know, this is why you know, value for value has to 1045 01:07:18,539 --> 01:07:21,149 continuously you have to remind you have to ask people, you have 1046 01:07:21,149 --> 01:07:23,219 to tell people what you're doing. Sometimes you throw a sad 1047 01:07:23,219 --> 01:07:26,939 puppy. If you broke if you're broke, you say we're broke. Now 1048 01:07:26,939 --> 01:07:29,939 we're not broke. But you you laid it right out there. Yeah, 1049 01:07:29,939 --> 01:07:32,219 we're pretty much breakeven, we're not putting any money in 1050 01:07:32,219 --> 01:07:34,769 our pockets. No, is going right back into the operation. 1051 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,600 Yeah. And it's that sort of transparency. Help helps people 1052 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,450 to understand where we're at. And, you 1053 01:07:42,449 --> 01:07:46,079 know, and also people, you know, if you just listen and count, 1054 01:07:46,709 --> 01:07:49,559 you can find out exactly how much comes in every week. We're 1055 01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:54,149 giving the amounts on the show. Yeah, it's easy to track. 1056 01:07:54,630 --> 01:08:01,530 Our our expenses run roughly 1000 to 1200 a month. And you 1057 01:08:01,530 --> 01:08:04,140 can just listen to the shows and see what's coming. Are they 1058 01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:07,050 getting 1000 or 1200 a month? It's pretty obvious. Yeah, 1059 01:08:07,050 --> 01:08:07,200 that's 1060 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,000 about it. Exactly. 1061 01:08:09,630 --> 01:08:15,900 So yeah, they sent us $1,800.57 He says, this has been he says 1062 01:08:15,930 --> 01:08:23,850 here's a one here's a 1k boost. 118 150 857 says what a great 1063 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,000 year we've had listening to and watching the podcasting 2.0 and 1064 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,510 podcast index journey. The whole team@rss.com wishes the whole 1065 01:08:30,510 --> 01:08:34,260 team behind the 2.0 namespace and equally successful 2020 to 1066 01:08:34,440 --> 01:08:39,150 go podcasting. What was that? 1067 01:08:45,060 --> 01:08:46,170 That's the keeper. 1068 01:08:46,889 --> 01:08:50,069 Oh, is that is that the keeper filtered through a 1069 01:08:51,480 --> 01:08:54,420 nurse? No, Sherman. Yeah, she threw she threw this out on the 1070 01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:58,140 show. And just before we started today, I just grabbed it and I 1071 01:08:58,140 --> 01:09:01,410 recorded it and I and I think over modulate it 1072 01:09:05,070 --> 01:09:06,180 inside of Theramin 1073 01:09:06,570 --> 01:09:08,670 that I saw I kind of liked it. I'm like we just got to keep 1074 01:09:08,670 --> 01:09:09,390 that one going. 1075 01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:16,050 Brian of London gave us a an interesting boost. He gave us a 1076 01:09:16,050 --> 01:09:21,990 $500 donation through Hive $500 In hive. Okay, Brian, what 1077 01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:24,150 is the hive equivalent of boost? 1078 01:09:26,849 --> 01:09:36,809 Boost boost, Okay, nice. And he asked me he said you know, hey, 1079 01:09:36,809 --> 01:09:40,529 I want to I want to donate $500 Do I want it in lightning or in 1080 01:09:40,529 --> 01:09:43,049 hive? And I was like, you know, I mean it's just your brand of 1081 01:09:43,049 --> 01:09:43,859 London. Yeah, 1082 01:09:43,890 --> 01:09:47,040 you gotta be has to be hive. Hello. Yeah. And that's good. We 1083 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:47,910 need hive power. 1084 01:09:48,450 --> 01:09:50,940 We do. Yep. Because we still want to build that up so that we 1085 01:09:50,940 --> 01:09:53,580 can be self sufficient. self sufficient. 1086 01:09:53,970 --> 01:09:58,500 Hive independent. That is independent moron canes and Aki 1087 01:09:58,500 --> 01:09:59,940 independent is what we are 1088 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:07,020 Marco Arment gave us $500 Marco every month 1089 01:10:07,050 --> 01:10:11,460 now is his search still is hit our index at all. 1090 01:10:12,150 --> 01:10:15,570 No, he's he's still married to Apple when it comes to search 1091 01:10:15,630 --> 01:10:18,960 because people are saying hey, I can't find Korean the keeper on 1092 01:10:19,260 --> 01:10:20,280 on overcast. 1093 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:26,670 Yeah. And I don't I don't know how amenable he would be to 1094 01:10:26,730 --> 01:10:28,170 opening up a little bit. 1095 01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:31,380 Now he's he's got he's got his own theory on that. That's fine. 1096 01:10:32,190 --> 01:10:33,240 Yeah. You know, so. 1097 01:10:33,870 --> 01:10:37,410 I mean, he's not getting some top notch content. That's true. 1098 01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:44,190 But he Yeah, he's comes in every month without fail. $500 and is 1099 01:10:44,190 --> 01:10:46,050 greatly appreciated. and 1100 01:10:46,110 --> 01:10:49,020 way, way above and beyond. Yes. 1101 01:10:50,130 --> 01:10:55,260 Thank you, Martha. Alice gates, the podcasting. 2.0. Consultant. 1102 01:10:55,290 --> 01:10:58,290 Yes. $100. One off. 1103 01:10:58,500 --> 01:11:00,570 Thank you. Thank you very much, Alex. 1104 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,080 Alex is working on some stuff. And Alex started a new job. And 1105 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:08,610 so he's been he's been pressed for time, but he's, he's 1106 01:11:08,610 --> 01:11:13,560 definitely starting some. Some more work on the piping. Oh, 1107 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:18,150 cool. Yeah, he's gonna be working on pod on integrating 1108 01:11:18,150 --> 01:11:21,240 the live notifications and stuff like that into pod paying me. 1109 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,460 He's really already back working on it right now. Cool. 1110 01:11:23,490 --> 01:11:26,190 Well, yeah, he settled into the job. He's automated all the 1111 01:11:26,190 --> 01:11:30,060 tasks, you know, he's just drinking coffee. Like, what can 1112 01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:33,000 I do? Oh, yeah. Let me get back to piping. Yes. Was that I just 1113 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,840 imagine him being that guy. Oh, I see what needs to be done per 1114 01:11:36,900 --> 01:11:38,460 it's all set. Okay, it's rolling. 1115 01:11:38,850 --> 01:11:41,220 He built the Rube Goldberg machine and then he can just go 1116 01:11:41,730 --> 01:11:49,320 do it. Yes. That madeiros from Cass DOS, send us $100 Thank you 1117 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,970 says go podcasting. 1118 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:51,810 Yeah. 1119 01:11:53,460 --> 01:11:57,150 Did you see his video on that on? Yes, 1120 01:11:57,150 --> 01:11:59,490 I did. I did. It was fantastic. 1121 01:11:59,910 --> 01:12:04,680 Top notch. I had this idea last night. That that I was gonna 1122 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:09,180 chop that video up and throw in put in and put in some music and 1123 01:12:09,180 --> 01:12:13,050 stuff like that and like do some sort of like GX to mix up mash 1124 01:12:13,050 --> 01:12:21,030 up. Nice. Yeah. And I felt like boost boost. See, thank you, 1125 01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:27,630 Matt. Oscar Mary. He a fountain FM same. Gave us $100 And he 1126 01:12:27,630 --> 01:12:30,150 says for the server's Merry Christmas. 1127 01:12:30,180 --> 01:12:33,360 Merry Christmas to you. And thank you and I love the latest. 1128 01:12:34,140 --> 01:12:38,760 latest marketing. Yes, fountain is showing us the top value for 1129 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:39,810 value apps. 1130 01:12:40,590 --> 01:12:41,580 It's like the top 1131 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,870 rock. Yeah. Oh, no. We got another one. Hold on a second. 1132 01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:46,110 Yeah, 1133 01:12:46,110 --> 01:12:56,400 it was that report report. Uh oh. Holy shit. What was the big 1134 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:57,360 one? Yeah. 1135 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:04,020 It was a dude. It was a Dred Scott came in live. Came in live 1136 01:13:04,020 --> 01:13:07,020 and he says it's 100,000 sat boost. 1137 01:13:07,470 --> 01:13:12,090 Oh, crap. Was that to us? Yeah. Oh, you're reading it live? 1138 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:17,070 And he says yeah, he says go podcasting. Huh? Yeah, he 1139 01:13:17,070 --> 01:13:21,180 boosted episode 67. I know exactly what like Dred Scott. I 1140 01:13:21,180 --> 01:13:25,440 don't this guy is Bruce Wayne. Okay. So he is Bruce Lee. He's 1141 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:28,650 the Bruce Wayne of podcasting. 2.0 He knows that we're doing 1142 01:13:28,650 --> 01:13:32,220 the show right now. He knows that the pew pew because it 1143 01:13:32,220 --> 01:13:35,910 happened while Tina and I were doing the show. He knows the pew 1144 01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:40,350 pew comes through. And he's doing this. I guarantee you. 1145 01:13:40,860 --> 01:13:43,500 He's like, I'm going to be the first person to do a booster 1146 01:13:43,500 --> 01:13:45,180 Graham live on the show. And he did it. 1147 01:13:45,810 --> 01:13:50,760 You need you need to somehow hook that thing up where it'll 1148 01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:52,650 where? Where you can hear it. 1149 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,010 Yeah, yeah. I'm going to turn it on. What do you mean, I need to 1150 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:57,600 quit? Do you know you're talking to? 1151 01:13:58,140 --> 01:14:00,900 Oh, yeah, no, I'm giving audio advice to the 1152 01:14:02,460 --> 01:14:05,070 let me send me let me send myself a booster gram. See if it 1153 01:14:05,070 --> 01:14:10,530 works. Who's so thank you drip, drip? Just come on. 1000 sets. 1154 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,770 Okay, let me just see if this you have a message in there. Go 1155 01:14:13,770 --> 01:14:17,340 podcasting? Yeah, okay. Yeah. Did did the Go podcasting. But 1156 01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:20,940 wow, this is very exciting. When are we doing this live? Dave? 1157 01:14:20,940 --> 01:14:24,540 When are we going to throw up the stream and Steven B is 1158 01:14:24,540 --> 01:14:26,220 working on some stuff secretly. 1159 01:14:26,820 --> 01:14:32,640 Okay. Whenever we can get live. Let's see. I'm doing live 1160 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:38,940 medical analysis. On the show here. I've got my fever is 99.8. 1161 01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:40,080 That's coming down. 1162 01:14:40,140 --> 01:14:44,130 Oh, man. Okay, so I just boosted myself from pod friend. Let's 1163 01:14:44,130 --> 01:14:45,900 see if that comes through and if it works, 1164 01:14:46,590 --> 01:14:52,020 okay. All right. Thank you, Jared. There. How long did that 1165 01:14:52,020 --> 01:14:53,430 take away? What was the times five 1166 01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:54,270 seconds maybe? 1167 01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:58,200 Dos Beautiful. Well, whoever made helipads 1168 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:03,150 it's just an awesome dude is broadhead. So clearly, clearly 1169 01:15:03,150 --> 01:15:03,900 top notch. 1170 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:09,240 Chris Christopher? laconic. What? All right this is a hard 1171 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:14,130 name. He's Chris LW on podcast index dot social. His name is 1172 01:15:14,430 --> 01:15:19,050 Chris Christopher. laconic. Vital. Okay. All right, Chris, 1173 01:15:19,050 --> 01:15:22,950 tell me if that's right. He gives $100 And he says, Keep up 1174 01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:26,460 the great work and 2022 Chris from CT Larry. I guess that's 1175 01:15:26,460 --> 01:15:27,000 Connecticut. 1176 01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:28,800 Thank you, man. Thank you very much. 1177 01:15:28,830 --> 01:15:33,600 Yeah, thank you Chris. Appreciate it, man. $100 very 1178 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:40,560 much appreciated by everybody. It was so nice. Edward Sullivan 1179 01:15:41,220 --> 01:15:46,530 gave us $100 And there's no note attached to Eversole this mo 1180 01:15:46,530 --> 01:15:47,970 We do appreciate how you doing. 1181 01:15:51,900 --> 01:15:58,140 Hey, Dan boaster. Kevin Bay. been around a long time. Kevin 1182 01:15:58,140 --> 01:16:01,560 Bay has been around forever. He sent us $100 And he says Merry 1183 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,290 Christmas Dave and Adam podcasting. 2.0 is the gift that 1184 01:16:04,290 --> 01:16:13,110 keeps on giving go podcasting? Yes, they are. Oh, here we go. 1185 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,600 James Krillin gave us a he did a $50 subscription for us. 1186 01:16:18,780 --> 01:16:23,880 Wow. Thank you very much. Yeah, that's cool. We we put them in 1187 01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,160 the value block by the way that that was cool. 1188 01:16:26,610 --> 01:16:28,620 Did he get anything from it? Yes, yes. 1189 01:16:29,220 --> 01:16:32,640 I said okay, James, I've published the feed I've got you 1190 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:37,890 in the split I promised him 30% And and he came back right away 1191 01:16:37,890 --> 01:16:41,130 and posted a screenshot he said received so it was working. 1192 01:16:41,730 --> 01:16:46,530 Okay, so I want to pause here for a second and just realize 1193 01:16:46,530 --> 01:16:51,750 what has happened this may be a first of all time. We have 1194 01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:57,210 gotten successfully gotten a consultant to give us money. 1195 01:16:58,230 --> 01:17:05,340 Alice gates and also a journalist to give us money. Can 1196 01:17:05,340 --> 01:17:07,590 I just say that we were cooking with gas 1197 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,010 Thank you, Jane. excellent observation. Watson. 1198 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:19,920 Thank you. Very good. Lisa DeFore to gave us $25 And there 1199 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,210 was no note from Lisa 1200 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,660 women she Lisa. Where do we know Lisa from? 1201 01:17:25,290 --> 01:17:28,590 I don't know at least it afford so show that name. No. 1202 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:35,640 We don't have many women in the in the in the gang. So the 1203 01:17:35,670 --> 01:17:38,820 the best thing though the alarms went off is with a woman donate. 1204 01:17:39,780 --> 01:17:44,430 Yeah. Well, welcome. You're welcome here. We're nerds. We're 1205 01:17:44,430 --> 01:17:45,210 harmless. 1206 01:17:46,410 --> 01:17:49,140 So at least if you get a note make Yeah. Let us 1207 01:17:49,140 --> 01:17:50,850 know. Yeah. Let us know what you're doing. If you're working 1208 01:17:50,850 --> 01:17:51,420 on something. 1209 01:17:52,830 --> 01:17:57,660 Clicked family scouts gave us $25 And no note on that. Thank 1210 01:17:57,660 --> 01:17:59,010 you Cliff family scouts, 1211 01:17:59,070 --> 01:18:03,120 by the way, just so people know in the curry household here in 1212 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:07,140 the hill country in the shack. All you know I have four 1213 01:18:07,170 --> 01:18:12,960 podcasts. All of them have at least a monitoring split in the 1214 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:17,070 value block from my Umbro that pew pew sound is a part of our 1215 01:18:17,070 --> 01:18:23,520 life. It is it is so cool. It'd be like mostly Graham. Graham 1216 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,630 pew pew pew booster. 1217 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:32,550 All day. It's like haptics, yes. Yes. Haptics 1218 01:18:32,580 --> 01:18:33,510 haptics. 1219 01:18:35,610 --> 01:18:41,880 Imran Ockman gave us $21. Thank you. Oh, here's his note says 1220 01:18:41,940 --> 01:18:44,490 from great pods with the thanks. Oh, thanks. 1221 01:18:44,580 --> 01:18:45,810 Thank you. Great pods. 1222 01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:49,020 Great pods. Yeah, I know those guys. Follow him on Twitter. 1223 01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:54,630 Thank you, Imran and great pods. Let's see here. Okay, I'm gonna 1224 01:18:54,690 --> 01:19:01,200 I'm gonna try to say this name. Tomas Co. Blum ship SJ o with 1225 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:02,820 own lot. BLM. 1226 01:19:04,350 --> 01:19:07,080 Show Blum? Yeah. Sounds about right. Alright. 1227 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,370 Tomas. Joe Blum gave us $20 No note that Thank you, Thomas. 1228 01:19:11,370 --> 01:19:11,520 Thank 1229 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:18,120 you very much Thomas. From a from a Scandinavian region. Yep, 1230 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,130 does have the Oh with it with the line through it. 1231 01:19:20,850 --> 01:19:24,480 It's Oh, with two dots above it. Oh, boom. Loud. And uhm, loud 1232 01:19:24,510 --> 01:19:25,590 online. Yeah. 1233 01:19:27,630 --> 01:19:29,760 What is what is the thing with the I'm sorry to interrupt what 1234 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,770 is the thing with the line to it? What do you call that? 1235 01:19:33,330 --> 01:19:34,800 I call it a thing with a line for me 1236 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,920 to just seem like it's the right thing to call it though. 1237 01:19:39,780 --> 01:19:41,670 I call it the short vowels. 1238 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:48,450 Call it something that doesn't work in Unicode as well. Like it 1239 01:19:48,450 --> 01:19:51,420 doesn't show up could be an emoji could be some Swedish 1240 01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:57,840 and emotes yeah it yes messed up. OPML is Ko Cohen glotzbach 1241 01:19:57,870 --> 01:20:01,980 gave us $5 Thank you. No note and he's got Oh, that's a 1242 01:20:01,980 --> 01:20:03,090 subscription if I don't 1243 01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:06,030 eautiful server Thanks, man. Yep, 1244 01:20:06,570 --> 01:20:14,340 thank you JC Van Brunt sent us $5 I mean Did he just made he 1245 01:20:14,340 --> 01:20:16,200 may be from Texas and just say Van Brunt 1246 01:20:16,890 --> 01:20:18,870 Rambo was a fun brute. 1247 01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:21,870 Yeah move on board. I'm gonna give him the you know the formal 1248 01:20:21,930 --> 01:20:30,270 title benefit Yes $5 Thank you, Vaughn. Boom we get some the oh 1249 01:20:30,270 --> 01:20:32,790 wait, wait before I'm not doing monthlies yet I gotta do booster 1250 01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:32,970 green 1251 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:39,090 boost grams I haven't heard here's your cue to boost you 1252 01:20:39,090 --> 01:20:42,690 know you want to boost boost boost 1253 01:20:45,900 --> 01:20:50,310 boost donation from circus media he says 808 through breeze and 1254 01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:53,190 he says boost yeah guys are awesome. Thank you for all the 1255 01:20:53,190 --> 01:21:00,900 value the the over modulation on that makes it worse. That's what 1256 01:21:00,900 --> 01:21:04,380 does it I know. Yeah. It's it's like Jimi Hendrix of booster 1257 01:21:04,380 --> 01:21:04,920 grams. 1258 01:21:06,630 --> 01:21:09,750 That's it. Yeah. Since then the guitar on fire with it with a 1259 01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:14,580 lot of fluid. Yeah. Stephen B. Oh, Steven B. Through Curia 1260 01:21:14,580 --> 01:21:19,380 Castro of course. Send a 61,241 sat 1261 01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:21,450 Thank you. 1262 01:21:21,990 --> 01:21:24,900 I'm so glad that you're feeling better Steven. Yeah had a rough 1263 01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:29,730 go of it. He did. Man anytime you have like a gut thing. Oh, 1264 01:21:29,730 --> 01:21:31,530 so it's just missed so 1265 01:21:31,530 --> 01:21:34,680 Dave went I know that April gets nuts for you again so we have 1266 01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,280 this window. Now do you think you'll be could you hook it up 1267 01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:44,190 to up to Texas or over to Texas before then so we can do like a 1268 01:21:44,190 --> 01:21:48,780 2.0 meetup so many people who are a part of this are in Texas. 1269 01:21:49,470 --> 01:21:52,740 It has to be after Yeah, it has to be after after the after 1270 01:21:52,740 --> 01:21:56,580 April. Okay, April 15. Okay, yeah, cuz we yeah, we have the 1271 01:21:56,580 --> 01:22:01,140 run up to like we're we're full bore right now with onboarding 1272 01:22:01,140 --> 01:22:03,540 new employees and all that stuff or someone 1273 01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:06,240 out there could just say this is such a great project I'm going 1274 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:11,100 to donate $100,000 So that Dave can stop working for the man 1275 01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:16,050 Hmm Oh, that's also an option that was one heartedly endorse 1276 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,260 it's a big boost. Quite a boost. 1277 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,830 Stephen basic I don't have as much time talent nor treasure as 1278 01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:26,220 I'd like oh please you got all three of those Thank you indeed. 1279 01:22:26,730 --> 01:22:30,480 But this project is important so here's half of curio caster sets 1280 01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:33,990 from last month Now that's interesting that is your last 1281 01:22:33,990 --> 01:22:40,680 month he got 120,000 sets I mean polls but hold on a job money 1282 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:41,340 but I mean 1283 01:22:41,490 --> 01:22:48,300 that's quite decent and I would say on the list of just you know 1284 01:22:48,300 --> 01:22:54,510 the data that I'm seeing I would say curio casters consistently 1285 01:22:54,510 --> 01:23:01,350 three number three on the list with the kind of depends like 1286 01:23:01,830 --> 01:23:04,590 period caster pod friend curio caster is a little higher I 1287 01:23:04,590 --> 01:23:09,150 think on the what we're seeing coming in and then breeze and 1288 01:23:09,150 --> 01:23:13,170 fountain I think is has been top for a while 1289 01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:17,610 so that's roughly 50 bucks at the current exchange rate 1290 01:23:18,900 --> 01:23:27,540 120,000 Sasa roughly 50 $85 a month of income so I mean if 1291 01:23:27,540 --> 01:23:31,620 you're talking about I mean boost if you were to get that 1292 01:23:31,650 --> 01:23:33,960 ups to 1293 01:23:34,620 --> 01:23:38,430 just need more people just need more people to use it. That's 1294 01:23:38,430 --> 01:23:38,610 Oh, 1295 01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,810 yes. Then you're talking to 250 bucks a month of income. 1296 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:49,140 Yeah, you know, I'm an app that's like cocaine money I 1297 01:23:49,140 --> 01:23:52,920 don't know why I said that. No idea why I said that. 1298 01:23:54,210 --> 01:23:54,960 Cocaine money 1299 01:23:55,020 --> 01:23:56,130 I don't even like it 1300 01:23:59,550 --> 01:24:02,490 yeah, well thank you Steven Bay you didn't you didn't have to do 1301 01:24:02,490 --> 01:24:03,900 that. I appreciate 1302 01:24:03,900 --> 01:24:08,700 it and and and love the Jenny the the the broken out Jenny 1303 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,430 he's also got the image tags working in there 1304 01:24:12,180 --> 01:24:16,110 yeah, yes. Oh, that yeah, that he that the genie has turned 1305 01:24:16,110 --> 01:24:20,010 into such a good testbed for all this stuff. This is what we 1306 01:24:20,010 --> 01:24:20,640 always wanted. 1307 01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:25,920 I'm even adding my my social links now to my other shows I've 1308 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,640 gotten dangerous. Oh, yeah. Well from different Mastodon servers, 1309 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,920 which I promptly fucked up but I'll get better. 1310 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:39,120 Comic Strip blogger gives 3333 sets from pot friend let me 1311 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:43,350 guess he has a note. He does have a nemesis. Merry Christmas 1312 01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:48,060 to you, AC and Merry Christmas to you AC and today. More 1313 01:24:48,060 --> 01:24:51,330 booster grams next week. Okay, he sent that on December 23. 1314 01:24:51,330 --> 01:24:55,110 That was just a Christmas No, no. Play for podcasting.ai 1315 01:24:55,199 --> 01:25:01,649 Well, let's play AI dot cooking is AI podcast. Get the boost 1316 01:25:01,649 --> 01:25:02,279 CSB. 1317 01:25:02,820 --> 01:25:06,420 I see a couple of 3330 threes in here. I bet he's gonna yes gotta 1318 01:25:06,420 --> 01:25:08,970 be it's gotta be he does three a three year show. 1319 01:25:09,420 --> 01:25:14,880 Yeah. Donations to see 50 sets from Chris through the fountain 1320 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,250 app and he just says raw 1321 01:25:17,940 --> 01:25:18,360 okay 1322 01:25:20,850 --> 01:25:26,310 we read them all people this diagram 20,222 SATs a huge 1323 01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:30,360 second row of ducks yeah a long line of ducks from hardhat 1324 01:25:30,900 --> 01:25:33,900 through the curio caster and he says, upping the SATs and lining 1325 01:25:33,900 --> 01:25:34,890 up a road ducks 1326 01:25:34,919 --> 01:25:38,699 very nice thank you. Thank you see everyone heard it. Everyone 1327 01:25:38,699 --> 01:25:41,729 heard like you know what? These booster grams are great but we 1328 01:25:41,759 --> 01:25:44,549 didn't mean up the money a little bit and that's it. You're 1329 01:25:44,549 --> 01:25:46,949 doing it you're doing it thank you. Boost 1330 01:25:47,820 --> 01:25:52,080 able Kirby 20,000 SATs through curio caster and he says extra 1331 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,780 boost for good measure. Thank you, Abel Kirby, 1332 01:25:54,810 --> 01:25:58,170 thank you very much. How long has it been since you clicked 1333 01:25:58,170 --> 01:26:01,950 boost? That's too long. That's right. 1334 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:07,050 That's a bell curve. Is it was it I thought it 1335 01:26:07,050 --> 01:26:14,160 was I have the ring of fire down 1336 01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,760 the rate of fire podcast Ring of Fire 1337 01:26:23,790 --> 01:26:27,030 is there another one being set up another podcast Ring of Fire. 1338 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:32,130 There was one that somebody was doing one because Spencer said 1339 01:26:32,130 --> 01:26:35,670 he was doing it the other night. I guess they already did it. Oh, 1340 01:26:36,090 --> 01:26:38,820 Abel Kirby again 45,000 said oh, 1341 01:26:39,660 --> 01:26:41,460 man, this is it. 1342 01:26:41,670 --> 01:26:47,340 This is the album drop here. Through Kira caster he says Dear 1343 01:26:47,340 --> 01:26:52,710 admin Dave Merry Christmas. Today Spencer and I are 1344 01:26:52,710 --> 01:26:56,460 releasing our podcasting 2.0 value for value album. Our band 1345 01:26:56,460 --> 01:27:00,180 is called Abel in the wolf and the album is called stay a while 1346 01:27:00,690 --> 01:27:03,180 there's been a lot of buzz about it so I hope we can live up to 1347 01:27:03,180 --> 01:27:09,660 the hype as Karen down put it in put it were quoted it as Karen 1348 01:27:09,660 --> 01:27:13,440 down put it in a quote the hottest Christmas album drops 1349 01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:24,330 It's Crazy Frog you can find it at freaks yes we're so this 1350 01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:28,350 everybody involved with this thing is super weird. You can 1351 01:27:28,350 --> 01:27:32,100 find it at ABL in the wolf calm, but it will show up in any PC 1352 01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:36,360 2.0 Music app should one ever be created. Just exactly what we 1353 01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:39,300 were talking about earlier. Ah huh. Please give it a listen. 1354 01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:44,400 Also, Adam I do still expect Album of the Year go podcasting? 1355 01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:49,260 Absolutely. Podcast right in under the wire ladies and 1356 01:27:49,260 --> 01:27:52,440 gentlemen released in the last week of the year, the album of 1357 01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:55,650 the year the MVP table in the wolf. 1358 01:27:56,700 --> 01:28:00,600 So maybe that means that we should have a 1359 01:28:01,050 --> 01:28:05,880 an award show award. Yes, award. Here's the award show. Here's 1360 01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:11,610 how it works. It is in fact who boost the most wins. 1361 01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:15,600 He's just it's just wrong. 1362 01:28:15,810 --> 01:28:18,750 We have multiple No no, no, we have multiple categories. We 1363 01:28:18,750 --> 01:28:25,620 have categories of booster gram jokes, booster gram tips, as in 1364 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:29,220 tip, a tech tip booster gram tech tip and like and then the 1365 01:28:29,250 --> 01:28:31,260 the more you know, boost category. 1366 01:28:32,340 --> 01:28:36,120 I like it. And then the always popular king of the hill. 1367 01:28:36,630 --> 01:28:38,340 boosted the most of anybody else. 1368 01:28:38,370 --> 01:28:42,090 Yes, that award. That's right. That's the one exactly like 1369 01:28:42,180 --> 01:28:45,030 I like the album of the year though. That's pretty good. 1370 01:28:45,060 --> 01:28:49,800 Well, you Hello. Okay. So whoever builds this mythical 1371 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:53,670 directory which I just sketched out, you need the you need to 1372 01:28:53,670 --> 01:28:57,960 have Vitaly, who's popular. And how do you measure puppet 1373 01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:04,200 popularity? I have I have an idea. You've got the stats. Yet, 1374 01:29:04,290 --> 01:29:09,840 so that's that's yes. This sat stats. Yep. A Chad Pharaoh 1375 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,830 gave us 333 sets and he says Welcome to this weekend radio 1376 01:29:13,830 --> 01:29:15,540 Twitter. Okay. 1377 01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:21,660 Thanks, Chad. Chad. Chad has a he. He's doing more marketing 1378 01:29:21,660 --> 01:29:22,920 than I am. That's for sure. 1379 01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:26,130 Yeah, I think he's got an auto retweet machine we're just using 1380 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:26,820 everywhere 1381 01:29:26,850 --> 01:29:31,350 now is everywhere. Another mysterious podcasting 2.0 figure 1382 01:29:31,500 --> 01:29:32,910 that makes it so colorful. 1383 01:29:33,780 --> 01:29:38,490 Cast Pilant gives 3300 sets and he's still fountain. He says 1384 01:29:38,490 --> 01:29:44,370 thanks for the work. Boy. You're welcome. Thank you. 20,000 sets 1385 01:29:44,370 --> 01:29:48,360 through from Brian mozzie. And he says, oh, that's your 1386 01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:55,650 fountain. He says pew pew Christmas boost. Boost. Thank 1387 01:29:55,650 --> 01:30:00,750 you, Brian. Up, sir Pete. So Pete gave us 20 Row ducks. 1388 01:30:00,750 --> 01:30:06,120 22,222 sat through pot friend, he says. Happy New Year. Thanks 1389 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:07,980 for running this great initiative. You've been an 1390 01:30:07,980 --> 01:30:10,050 inspiration. Here's a big second ducks. 1391 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:14,760 Nice quack quack. We did a duck sound don't we? We need to duck 1392 01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:20,580 boost. Yeah. Do I have a quack in my should I do not have a 1393 01:30:20,580 --> 01:30:22,290 crack sound effect? 1394 01:30:22,830 --> 01:30:27,090 Somebody can help us out. Yeah, put in the toolbox. Brian mozzie 1395 01:30:27,090 --> 01:30:32,610 again with 14,851 SATs. Oh, I like it because, okay, here's 1396 01:30:32,610 --> 01:30:35,940 this. Here's what he did the time stamp and this booster gram 1397 01:30:35,940 --> 01:30:41,340 is one hour, 48 minutes and 51 seconds. So he said this. Oh 1398 01:30:41,340 --> 01:30:43,560 1485 Nice. 1399 01:30:43,650 --> 01:30:48,870 Yeah, that's slick. Hey, there's another thing. Automatically the 1400 01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:51,540 boost number goes up by number of minutes. You're listening. 1401 01:30:52,380 --> 01:30:56,610 I like that that will encourage people to do like, like 40 hour 1402 01:30:56,610 --> 01:30:57,360 episodes. 1403 01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:05,760 Yes. Now I don't have a duck. But I do know how to solicit 1404 01:31:05,820 --> 01:31:13,290 duck donations. duck call, it'll always do it. 1405 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:15,630 You hear that? A lot around the hilltop. 1406 01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,640 YES. Jimmy Vaughn and the duck calls. 1407 01:31:21,180 --> 01:31:24,690 Jimmy Vaughn was He who sees Stevie Ray Vaughn's brother. 1408 01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,070 Yeah. Older brother. Okay, 1409 01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,180 man. That's one of the biggest regrets that I have is I had a 1410 01:31:30,180 --> 01:31:36,480 chance to see. I had a chance to see Billy Stevie Ray Vaughan. He 1411 01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:40,470 was He came and played with Eric Clapton. Yes, that's right. In 1412 01:31:40,470 --> 01:31:45,510 Birmingham, and this was like literally ended up being like 1413 01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:50,430 two months before he died and did not go to the show. I ended 1414 01:31:50,430 --> 01:31:54,210 up I think I chose some I already had tickets and 1415 01:31:54,210 --> 01:31:57,480 everything and I thought I ditched it for something else. 1416 01:31:57,810 --> 01:32:00,510 And and then he died. Like, three weeks later. I was like, 1417 01:32:00,540 --> 01:32:00,990 Ah, 1418 01:32:01,169 --> 01:32:05,309 it's interesting. Jimmy is opening for Clapton right now. 1419 01:32:05,999 --> 01:32:08,819 Oh, really? Yeah. Interesting. Okay, yeah. And boy that what a 1420 01:32:08,819 --> 01:32:12,209 waste What a stupid waste. That was such a dumb helicopter. Now 1421 01:32:12,209 --> 01:32:15,239 that you know now I'm a pilot now. I know. It was just wires 1422 01:32:15,239 --> 01:32:19,589 man. Puking wires locally every time. Wires What do you mean? 1423 01:32:19,679 --> 01:32:24,659 Oh, the they lifted off from the from the concert ground and flew 1424 01:32:24,659 --> 01:32:26,219 right into high voltage wire. 1425 01:32:27,630 --> 01:32:29,370 Oh, man, and it's so hard 1426 01:32:29,370 --> 01:32:32,310 to see when you're flying. That's why whenever you're 1427 01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:35,940 flying a helicopter. Here's the more you know. When you're 1428 01:32:35,940 --> 01:32:39,120 flying helicopter. You will see the high power lines. You'll see 1429 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:44,400 the towers. You always always always fly over the top of a 1430 01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:44,880 tower. 1431 01:32:47,070 --> 01:32:49,590 You're out of the out of the wires. Yep. Okay. Yeah, 1432 01:32:49,620 --> 01:32:53,640 always. Always this perfect comp and never in between them. 1433 01:32:55,020 --> 01:32:55,830 Always over. 1434 01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:01,650 So Brian, LASIK is 14,851 SAS and he says Hurrah for bug 1435 01:33:01,650 --> 01:33:06,120 fixes. I agree. Yeah, yeah, maybe made it through the whole 1436 01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,660 episode without freezing playback. Oh, this is running 1437 01:33:09,810 --> 01:33:16,410 commentary. So yes, yeah. 14,851 SATs for the 14851 episode 1438 01:33:16,410 --> 01:33:20,610 length tank. Thanks to Oscar in the fountain team. Yeah, you 1439 01:33:20,610 --> 01:33:27,300 Brian mozzie 500 Nate stats from anonymous. He says why was six 1440 01:33:27,300 --> 01:33:31,650 afraid of seven? Because 7890 Hey, hello 1441 01:33:31,650 --> 01:33:36,480 see on these on the leaderboard for the award. A joke boost joke 1442 01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:37,650 booster gram. 1443 01:33:38,130 --> 01:33:44,190 dad joke award. This the comic strip blogger 3333. Through pod 1444 01:33:44,190 --> 01:33:47,190 for Andy says, first of three this week. Greetings from comic 1445 01:33:47,190 --> 01:33:50,760 strip blogger to Dave Jones and ACX and anybody interested in 1446 01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:53,580 artificial intelligence is welcome to subscribe and listen 1447 01:33:53,580 --> 01:33:58,110 to the podcast called AI cooking can be found in all podcast apps 1448 01:33:58,110 --> 01:34:02,100 and in all podcast indexes by searching for AI cooking yo, 1449 01:34:02,910 --> 01:34:13,140 boost. Yo. 10,000 SATs from Nick. I'm wondering if this is 1450 01:34:13,140 --> 01:34:18,750 the Nick. This may be Oscar Mary's partner in crime. Okay, 1451 01:34:18,750 --> 01:34:23,970 that sounds nice Nick. See the fountain app 10,000 SAS and he 1452 01:34:23,970 --> 01:34:26,160 says really enjoyed this interview with James. Thank you 1453 01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,350 Adam and Dave for all your hard work this year. Well, thank you, 1454 01:34:28,380 --> 01:34:34,980 Nick. Thank you. Okay, 25,000 SATs from Kyle a bear. Wow, 1455 01:34:34,980 --> 01:34:37,980 buddy. Yes, he he of boost fame. 1456 01:34:38,730 --> 01:34:41,730 Here he is. It this is not him. 1457 01:34:45,060 --> 01:34:46,140 Theramin need to 1458 01:34:46,140 --> 01:34:47,670 be your wife or moose 1459 01:34:49,110 --> 01:34:52,080 to be the fountain app. Callay Bear says Happy Holidays from 1460 01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,440 the boost guy. Yeah, much love from the intergalactic boombox, 1461 01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:56,640 the SATs must flow. 1462 01:34:56,670 --> 01:34:57,600 Yeah, one more time. 1463 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,710 Uh oh, this must flow. That's a dune reference this good Yeah, 1464 01:35:04,770 --> 01:35:15,870 yeah. Let's see 49,049 SATs. This is the RT e is the fountain 1465 01:35:15,870 --> 01:35:20,310 and he says just saw the at Jack fountain podcasting 2.0 tweet 1466 01:35:21,060 --> 01:35:23,130 bullish on the future we're gonna make it Oh, did you see 1467 01:35:23,130 --> 01:35:31,800 that? No. Yeah, Jack Jack Dorsey retweeted a fountain. What they 1468 01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:32,580 found posting 1469 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,670 that's fantastic. Hold on a second. 1470 01:35:35,700 --> 01:35:38,220 I think it was the end of your stats thing. 1471 01:35:39,690 --> 01:35:46,020 Wow. Hey now that's cool. Did I did I did I see this? I need to 1472 01:35:46,020 --> 01:35:50,220 read. Oh, here it is fountain. Yeah, he he retweeted. 1473 01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:58,110 Yeah. One of his tweet. Yeah. Nice. That's nice. Yeah. Vila 1474 01:35:58,170 --> 01:36:02,850 gave us 1000 SATs. And he says the pod friend and he says Happy 1475 01:36:02,850 --> 01:36:04,200 New Year. Well, Happy New 1476 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:05,550 Year. Happy New Year to you. 1477 01:36:07,140 --> 01:36:11,370 Oh 1000 SATs from Nomad Joe through pod friend and he says 1478 01:36:11,370 --> 01:36:16,860 Happy Holidays from the road. Yo manga Drive safe. Yeah. See? 1479 01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:23,040 Alex tree bus. Travis tree bus tree with his 20 is 20,000 sets 1480 01:36:23,310 --> 01:36:27,330 through curio caster and he says tip ask the programmers to add a 1481 01:36:27,330 --> 01:36:30,690 local currency in the boost button. Isn't the donators will 1482 01:36:30,690 --> 01:36:33,570 be more aware about the Mt? They are sending? Yes up the good 1483 01:36:33,570 --> 01:36:36,780 work? Are you are you on board with that? 1484 01:36:36,900 --> 01:36:41,940 Well, in general, I'm a fan of you. I'll give I'll tell you 1485 01:36:41,940 --> 01:36:45,090 what I'm a fan of. So here's a real world example. I'm reading 1486 01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:50,250 GGS article. And there's a natural break in this article 1487 01:36:50,250 --> 01:36:52,530 where he's talking about value for value and if you value 1488 01:36:52,530 --> 01:36:55,890 something, you're like it you got to get back and right there. 1489 01:36:55,890 --> 01:37:00,030 He has a support this articles button. Did you see that? Right. 1490 01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,390 Right give value back button. Yeah, so I hit the value back it 1491 01:37:03,390 --> 01:37:09,360 pops up a QR for Bitcoin not lightning, but for Bitcoin on 1492 01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:13,440 chain. And I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna send him 50 bucks. And 1493 01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:16,080 then I'm like, No, I'm gonna send them 100,000 Satoshis. It's 1494 01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:20,460 a little less than 5050 bucks. But for me to be able to see 1495 01:37:20,490 --> 01:37:24,090 hundreds I type in 100,000 and underneath and small connect zap 1496 01:37:24,090 --> 01:37:29,700 wallet does. It's it's a fiat currency. I think that is. I 1497 01:37:29,700 --> 01:37:33,630 think that's very handy. And you know, who requested this the 1498 01:37:33,630 --> 01:37:36,480 most who's always telling me it was always asking me why don't 1499 01:37:36,480 --> 01:37:41,310 these guys put that? Why don't they got my Mo. Mo was very 1500 01:37:41,310 --> 01:37:46,650 concerned about this. Okay, so, yeah, take that for what it's 1501 01:37:46,650 --> 01:37:47,100 worth. 1502 01:37:48,450 --> 01:37:57,150 I mean, I don't know go back and forth about it. It. I can't I 1503 01:37:57,150 --> 01:38:00,480 mean, if it helps, okay. The bottom line is if it helps 1504 01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:03,570 adoption, help people to feel more comfortable with it. I'm 1505 01:38:03,570 --> 01:38:04,140 good with it 1506 01:38:04,140 --> 01:38:06,690 will help adoption tremendously. 1507 01:38:07,290 --> 01:38:12,060 Because the only here's my reservation about it is that if 1508 01:38:12,060 --> 01:38:19,020 you denominated in local currencies, is more likely to to 1509 01:38:19,110 --> 01:38:28,560 arouse the ire of regulators. And people like that. I mean, 1510 01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,170 like, because when you think about it in and 1511 01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:37,350 hold on, we can't hide. We, if that's true, then we're just 1512 01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:38,550 delaying the inevitable. 1513 01:38:39,420 --> 01:38:40,740 Okay, well, let's say 1514 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:46,590 I can say that, so. Okay. How about the web apps? Do it then? 1515 01:38:47,730 --> 01:38:49,560 Yeah, let's see the web the web app. Okay. 1516 01:38:49,740 --> 01:38:51,870 So you're not you're not worried about regulators. You're worried 1517 01:38:51,870 --> 01:38:55,260 about App Store and App Store payment systems and yeah, you've 1518 01:38:55,260 --> 01:38:58,590 been traumatized by this and you have now you now have a hang up 1519 01:39:01,110 --> 01:39:03,720 remember that you didn't have didn't have you have mental 1520 01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,510 health issues. I got a hang up it's just I'm working on it. 1521 01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:12,060 Back in the day, I've been triggered. I'm triggered. I just 1522 01:39:12,060 --> 01:39:16,800 gotta hang up the head and worry about um, so 1523 01:39:18,090 --> 01:39:20,400 I'm on a completely different tab on my browser. I've lost all 1524 01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,220 context of what we're doing. We're doing donations so yes. 1525 01:39:25,140 --> 01:39:30,240 Yeah, we were talking about the fee. I'm, I feel I love the ZAP 1526 01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:34,260 wallet has it? You tap it's you can tap between Fiat and 1527 01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,860 sometimes you can tap between Bitcoin of course, a lot of 1528 01:39:37,860 --> 01:39:43,590 zeros after after the decimal. So I do think in SATs I do think 1529 01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:48,270 that way. I think it's handy to know what it really is. And so 1530 01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:52,230 to have that underneath it for in the ZAP wallet, it's even 1531 01:39:52,230 --> 01:39:56,880 grayed out. It does. It has no it has. It's very subjective to 1532 01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,680 the to the Satoshi amount. 1533 01:39:59,459 --> 01:40:03,179 Well, I go back Back and forth. And I just look, as long as I 1534 01:40:03,179 --> 01:40:08,819 know roughly what Bitcoin in US dollars is, if it's the if it's 1535 01:40:08,819 --> 01:40:13,949 50,000 per $50,000 per Bitcoin at the moment. Yeah, 1536 01:40:14,130 --> 01:40:15,480 that, you know, it's been I know, I'm 1537 01:40:15,510 --> 01:40:19,020 Yeah, I know that I'm good with my standard boost amounts, I 1538 01:40:19,020 --> 01:40:22,290 mean, 2112, and things like that. And once it starts 1539 01:40:22,290 --> 01:40:25,890 creeping up, like, yeah, near 70,000, I have to read and 1540 01:40:25,890 --> 01:40:27,630 reassess. Yes, yes, yeah. 1541 01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:31,680 Well, but I think it's, but there's that angle. But also, 1542 01:40:31,740 --> 01:40:33,600 you know, when we said, hey, it's great that you're sending 1543 01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:37,050 us 1000s Of SATs, but we're, you know, we were having difficulty 1544 01:40:37,050 --> 01:40:40,260 keeping the lights on. That's just because people don't really 1545 01:40:40,260 --> 01:40:43,950 think about it, which is good. Because you want people to see 1546 01:40:43,950 --> 01:40:48,120 it as a game. I mean, as a mechanism, a loop, something you 1547 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:52,140 can participate in. But when it comes to pure value, it's 1548 01:40:52,140 --> 01:40:54,720 important people understand what value they're sending. And I 1549 01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:58,110 think that kind of got lost. The other way to do it is to limit 1550 01:40:58,140 --> 01:41:00,900 booster grams to certain amounts, which I'm not a big fan 1551 01:41:00,900 --> 01:41:04,140 of, but you have to go with this project and this podcast, I 1552 01:41:04,140 --> 01:41:06,540 don't think we'll ever have to do that. Because we will never 1553 01:41:06,540 --> 01:41:09,690 get the audience. It's not intended for the for the for an 1554 01:41:09,690 --> 01:41:11,640 audience of massive proportion. 1555 01:41:12,539 --> 01:41:14,459 And by the way, we have no idea how many people listen, this 1556 01:41:14,459 --> 01:41:14,909 show no, 1557 01:41:14,970 --> 01:41:15,720 don't care, 1558 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,220 don't know, don't 1559 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:22,740 don't care, I really don't care, when all I see is Sat streaming 1560 01:41:22,740 --> 01:41:26,610 in every single minute of every single hour of the day. That's 1561 01:41:26,940 --> 01:41:27,450 listening. 1562 01:41:27,660 --> 01:41:32,880 That's what you're you are on the new media show. And that's 1563 01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:36,660 one of the things that Todd said he was like, you know, what's 1564 01:41:36,660 --> 01:41:40,200 the biggest most important thing that every podcaster cares about 1565 01:41:40,440 --> 01:41:44,310 every podcaster? And his answer was growth. 1566 01:41:45,540 --> 01:41:48,540 And enlight. And I said, No, what the hell is that? What is 1567 01:41:48,540 --> 01:41:49,050 growth? 1568 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,540 Yeah, that's what you said, you're like, what does that even 1569 01:41:51,540 --> 01:41:55,470 mean? But as long as you have the income you need to pay to 1570 01:41:55,470 --> 01:41:59,280 pay your bills, and the things are good, and you're going in 1571 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:03,030 the right direction. You're not tanking. Like, why does it 1572 01:42:03,030 --> 01:42:05,670 matter? How many, it only matters in the context of 1573 01:42:05,670 --> 01:42:09,330 advertising? Yep. And if that's what it means, that's where you 1574 01:42:09,330 --> 01:42:11,220 want to go, that's fine. But you're hitching yourself to that 1575 01:42:11,220 --> 01:42:13,350 horse and when you're staying up all night worried about your 1576 01:42:13,350 --> 01:42:13,830 growth? 1577 01:42:16,860 --> 01:42:17,670 That's a good point. 1578 01:42:18,270 --> 01:42:19,770 We're worried about booster grams. 1579 01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:23,100 Exactly. Or you just walk around the house and you're like, you 1580 01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:25,740 know, I wonder how the podcast is, oh, I'm sorry. It's doing 1581 01:42:25,740 --> 01:42:28,020 just fine. People are listening. 1582 01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:34,290 5000 sets from C dubs through the breeze app. And he says 1583 01:42:34,290 --> 01:42:40,410 thanks for the value. C dubs Thank you see. One more of the 1584 01:42:40,440 --> 01:42:41,700 one more chemistry blogger. 1585 01:42:42,330 --> 01:42:45,060 I was waiting for the for the the hat trick. 1586 01:42:45,810 --> 01:42:48,570 The trifecta says third of this week greetings from chemistry 1587 01:42:48,570 --> 01:42:51,600 blogger to Dave Jones and AC and anybody interested in artificial 1588 01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,910 intelligence is welcome to subscribe and listen to the 1589 01:42:53,940 --> 01:42:57,000 podcast called AI cooking that can be found and 1590 01:42:57,180 --> 01:43:00,900 I love pod. I love comics for bloggers been in my life longer 1591 01:43:00,900 --> 01:43:04,920 than you've been in my life. But he always does this kind of 1592 01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:08,400 stuff. It's like to just send us 10,000 SATs and we'll make a big 1593 01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,160 deal out of your podcast and now he's now it's just gonna be 1594 01:43:11,220 --> 01:43:15,840 three times we read the same message. That's I understand 1595 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:18,000 that from an engineering standpoint, that's how 1596 01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,070 advertising works. Repeat the message. 1597 01:43:21,540 --> 01:43:24,420 Long message to repeat that. I think that works better on like 1598 01:43:24,420 --> 01:43:28,620 jingles. One 804 You know, like cars for killing it works better 1599 01:43:28,620 --> 01:43:29,820 with a well the paragraph. 1600 01:43:30,390 --> 01:43:34,530 Right? So we appreciate it. I'm just suggesting it's just a 1601 01:43:34,530 --> 01:43:36,810 creative note. Is this all it is? 1602 01:43:37,230 --> 01:43:43,110 Search for a cooking yo yo and monthly donors. That's our 1603 01:43:43,110 --> 01:43:46,890 booster greens monthly donors. Charles current $5 Michael 1604 01:43:46,890 --> 01:43:53,250 Goggin $5 Sean McCune $20 Christopher Raymer $10 James 1605 01:43:53,250 --> 01:44:02,130 Sullivan $10 Do quotes $6.66 Dred Scott $15 drib the machine 1606 01:44:02,490 --> 01:44:10,410 Michael Kimmer $5.33 Leslie Martin $2 Jeff Miller $20 Pedro 1607 01:44:10,410 --> 01:44:15,030 gone calvus $5 and Erin Renaud $5 And that's our group. Thank 1608 01:44:15,030 --> 01:44:15,300 you. 1609 01:44:15,419 --> 01:44:19,019 Thank you very much monthly. Very critical to the mission. 1610 01:44:19,499 --> 01:44:23,399 Yes, very critical. That ongoing basis important. Yes, very 1611 01:44:23,399 --> 01:44:29,189 important. Thank you. Thank you all value for value. At podcast 1612 01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:32,219 index.org You can find a big red donate button at the bottom of 1613 01:44:32,219 --> 01:44:34,589 the page it'll take you to the PayPal for the fee out fun 1614 01:44:34,589 --> 01:44:37,859 coupons. The booster grams are working yo this is good. You 1615 01:44:37,859 --> 01:44:40,529 keep that size up. I'm liking your size 1616 01:44:44,610 --> 01:44:45,630 that means hasn't heard that. 1617 01:44:45,930 --> 01:44:49,050 Yeah. And you know, I think I can figure out this tally coin 1618 01:44:49,050 --> 01:44:51,840 QR code and I can just hand it off to you. I know I know you're 1619 01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:52,890 strapped for time. 1620 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:58,350 Next I've got plenty of time today as I'm as I'm you know 1621 01:44:58,350 --> 01:44:59,490 flopping on the couch. 1622 01:45:01,650 --> 01:45:05,400 I all I want you to do is, is get under the covers have some 1623 01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:09,360 chicken soup, a little bit of Scotch scotch. 1624 01:45:10,590 --> 01:45:14,400 Somebody else. Twitter said the other day, I thought the cure 1625 01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:18,420 for a cold was chicken soup in bed rest and not communism. 1626 01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:23,880 How have you seen the latest this? Okay, just as let's do 1627 01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:27,210 some political stuff. Dave, this will be funny. Have you seen the 1628 01:45:27,210 --> 01:45:33,930 latest trend on Twitter? CDC says? Yes. Larry, I this is this 1629 01:45:33,930 --> 01:45:37,800 is you know what's happened here is people are all of a sudden 1630 01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:41,940 the scales are falling from their eyes. Yeah, a biblical 1631 01:45:41,940 --> 01:45:44,220 reference, I believe. And 1632 01:45:45,300 --> 01:45:48,720 they are freaking it when that CDC dropped that thing from 10 1633 01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:53,820 days to five days. It did the Yeah, Twitter collectively lost 1634 01:45:53,820 --> 01:45:54,510 his MA. 1635 01:45:56,490 --> 01:46:00,450 CDC says Red Bull doesn't give you wings. So go ahead and jump 1636 01:46:00,450 --> 01:46:02,880 off that bridge and does give you wings and go ahead and jump 1637 01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,990 off that bridge. CDC says you can start at 69 bottles of beer 1638 01:46:06,990 --> 01:46:14,160 on the wall. That's funny. Let's see. He says my CDC says go 1639 01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:15,840 ahead and mess around with Jim 1640 01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,400 The CDC recommends neither milk nor lemon should be added to 1641 01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,890 Earl Grey tea. CDC says 1642 01:46:25,890 --> 01:46:30,150 Just rub some dirt on it. I mean, this is this is so funny. 1643 01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:33,240 This is this is where you this is what it's like to lose 1644 01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:34,590 control of the narrative. 1645 01:46:35,220 --> 01:46:36,240 Oh, yeah, it's 1646 01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:44,250 it's out of control. It's Oh, I heard it. I heard it. That was a 1647 01:46:44,490 --> 01:46:49,500 10 set boost. For no agenda. From Dean Neil. Oops. 1648 01:46:49,530 --> 01:46:51,510 Well, you know what you're gonna have to have you're gonna have 1649 01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:58,080 to filter. That's great. No, no, no. A panel a screen in in the 1650 01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:00,900 in the bunk in the bunker in the podcast, but Scuse me? 1651 01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:03,780 Do you want me to feel bad? Do you want me to send you a 1652 01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:07,350 picture? Because I know Yeah, sure. Remember, I'm not running 1653 01:47:07,350 --> 01:47:10,920 it on an anvil or pi. I'm running it on a Surface Pro six. 1654 01:47:11,550 --> 01:47:11,910 Oh, so 1655 01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:13,650 it's in there? Oh, yeah. 1656 01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:18,060 Oh, no, when the booster Graham was. So I have. I have it loaded 1657 01:47:18,060 --> 01:47:21,990 now on the machine here in front of me because I can just hit the 1658 01:47:21,990 --> 01:47:26,400 IP address. So I so so when it hits here, and then it hits the 1659 01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:31,080 sound board. I have one over by so I have a big monitor like a 1660 01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:35,850 huge, crazy thing. And I got the Bitcoin chart. I've got my times 1661 01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:40,200 and I actually have the fediverse open, which is 1662 01:47:40,230 --> 01:47:47,370 basically flashing porn. Enemy porn all day. And it's kind of 1663 01:47:47,370 --> 01:47:50,430 cool. I love that because it refreshes automatically when 1664 01:47:50,430 --> 01:47:53,730 something new comes in. And sometimes you catch a news item. 1665 01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:57,780 Oh, that's interesting. And then to the right of that is like my 1666 01:47:57,780 --> 01:48:00,450 scrolling news ticker. And then to the right of that is the 1667 01:48:00,450 --> 01:48:04,440 Surface Pro six and right front and center is the is heli pad. 1668 01:48:04,830 --> 01:48:06,030 Awesome. I'll make a picture. 1669 01:48:06,630 --> 01:48:09,630 Yeah, yeah, I want I want to see the commandcentral. 1670 01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:16,260 Yeah. CDC, CDC says you can put pizza pineapple on pizza. Haha. 1671 01:48:16,260 --> 01:48:18,690 Good. I'm glad. I'm glad that's finally settled. 1672 01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,650 Breaking news, CDC announces is now acceptable to talk about 1673 01:48:22,650 --> 01:48:28,770 fight club. I want to hear about the test scam thing. They're 1674 01:48:28,770 --> 01:48:29,970 gonna put a new firmware. 1675 01:48:30,030 --> 01:48:34,830 Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I had a great call with Did I talk about the 1676 01:48:34,830 --> 01:48:36,600 call I had with Tascam with Japan? 1677 01:48:37,140 --> 01:48:39,210 Yeah, you told me about that. But then you said they may be 1678 01:48:39,210 --> 01:48:42,360 doing like a firmware release, and then maybe hardware? And 1679 01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:43,050 yeah, so 1680 01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:47,700 um, so William got back to me. And he said, Adam, you know, 1681 01:48:47,850 --> 01:48:51,270 great news, we had a firmware release. And, you know, there's 1682 01:48:51,270 --> 01:48:54,960 a couple things in here, I know you like, which is now you can 1683 01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:59,220 put the effects on all microphones. Now, I had asked 1684 01:48:59,220 --> 01:49:01,980 not for all microphones, but for all channels. So I'm not sure if 1685 01:49:01,980 --> 01:49:07,920 it'll also be on the USB. And he says you can now also regulate 1686 01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:12,210 gain on the USB channels, which was a big problem. Of course, it 1687 01:49:12,210 --> 01:49:15,330 really needs to be processing. He said, But all of this is just 1688 01:49:15,420 --> 01:49:20,220 stuff that was kind of semi planned, he says for this coming 1689 01:49:20,220 --> 01:49:23,310 year, so I'm not quite sure what it'll be called. But it'll be 1690 01:49:23,310 --> 01:49:28,500 it'll either be mixed cast fi or mixed cast for Mark Two or 1691 01:49:28,500 --> 01:49:31,950 whatever. He says we intend to fully implement everything you 1692 01:49:31,950 --> 01:49:32,640 suggested. 1693 01:49:33,480 --> 01:49:35,970 So that they get it, they get it? 1694 01:49:36,390 --> 01:49:39,780 Well, it's all it's old engineering guys. You know, they 1695 01:49:39,780 --> 01:49:44,040 get it and what is so impressive about this company is that the 1696 01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:51,000 the head of product is, I would say millennial woman who's super 1697 01:49:51,030 --> 01:49:55,530 sharp. She trust these guys. Now she has an engineering 1698 01:49:55,530 --> 01:49:58,110 background. So she she knows what she's talking about, but 1699 01:49:58,110 --> 01:50:03,150 she trusts their experience. One of created, you know, old, a 1700 01:50:03,150 --> 01:50:07,890 couple of the old boss stompboxes you know, these guys 1701 01:50:07,890 --> 01:50:12,480 go back they go back in, in music and technology so and 1702 01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:18,540 she's very accepting of, of their input. And you know, no 1703 01:50:18,540 --> 01:50:20,580 chip on the shoulder. They're very impressive. 1704 01:50:21,660 --> 01:50:24,150 I like it. Yes, that's encouraging this occurred. 1705 01:50:24,180 --> 01:50:29,340 I'm pumped about it. Now. This is a long road. And it was kind 1706 01:50:29,340 --> 01:50:31,050 of interesting. Good. William said, Hey, and then you know, we 1707 01:50:31,050 --> 01:50:34,380 can talk about and I'm like, what I want is I want to have 1708 01:50:34,620 --> 01:50:38,280 the pod father signature addition with you know, with 1709 01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:42,900 platinum trim or some shit like that. And I Okay, and he's, 1710 01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:46,740 yeah, we can look at some cross marketing opportunities. That's 1711 01:50:46,740 --> 01:50:51,720 no money. All right. Well, so much for that. It doesn't 1712 01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:54,450 matter. We'll get the box. I just want the box. I really do. 1713 01:50:54,450 --> 01:50:54,810 But 1714 01:50:54,900 --> 01:50:58,530 so the bucks and then you have to buy it with with lightning. 1715 01:50:58,890 --> 01:51:00,150 You have to buy with us. 1716 01:51:01,350 --> 01:51:02,670 Yeah, yeah. 1717 01:51:04,020 --> 01:51:06,840 So that's now says that Whitney Houston does not want to dance 1718 01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:09,960 with I could do this. 1719 01:51:11,220 --> 01:51:15,930 Believe me, the curry household is doing it all morning. Oh, 1720 01:51:15,930 --> 01:51:18,960 look at this. And you have to be at the other side of the room 1721 01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:23,040 just laughing my what is it? What does the CDC say? Alright, 1722 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,860 hey, this is the last show of the year. Dave. It's been a it's 1723 01:51:25,860 --> 01:51:28,830 been a phenomenal year. Thank you for your friendship. Thank 1724 01:51:28,830 --> 01:51:34,500 you for your partnership. Thank you for your courage. And, and 1725 01:51:34,500 --> 01:51:37,620 your your your time, talent and treasure because you're putting 1726 01:51:37,620 --> 01:51:40,350 it in just equally, if not more than most. 1727 01:51:41,070 --> 01:51:44,760 Yeah, but it's been it's been a joy. Man, it's been great doing 1728 01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:47,970 this with with you for going on two years now. And we're going 1729 01:51:48,030 --> 01:51:52,440 we're gonna pair a year and a half and we get I mean, 2022 I 1730 01:51:52,440 --> 01:51:55,890 feel like things are gonna get even more interesting. Like, 1731 01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:01,740 because we may my my plan is, you know, at least in January is 1732 01:52:01,740 --> 01:52:05,280 to start working on the podcast or wallet and wiring it up to to 1733 01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,940 our Elon pay node and trying to get trying to get some stuff go 1734 01:52:08,940 --> 01:52:10,470 and where people can just onboard. 1735 01:52:10,530 --> 01:52:18,510 Yes. And also thank you to Eric, Eric Mackey, who's more silent 1736 01:52:18,510 --> 01:52:22,050 than anything in the partnership but he's he's keeping us honest, 1737 01:52:22,050 --> 01:52:26,910 keeping us in on track and a lot of stuff that he's been thinking 1738 01:52:26,910 --> 01:52:30,450 about and working on will come to bear in the with the wallet 1739 01:52:30,450 --> 01:52:35,460 side. Yeah, particularly for reporting statistics, 1740 01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:38,040 extraction, etc, etc. 1741 01:52:38,459 --> 01:52:41,429 So usually I'll throw something into the signal and into the 1742 01:52:41,429 --> 01:52:45,209 signal chat and then I know if if Eric does not come back and 1743 01:52:45,209 --> 01:52:46,829 shoot it down immediately. They're good to go. 1744 01:52:47,730 --> 01:52:53,130 Exactly. Okay, we made it Yeah, perfect. All right, everybody. 1745 01:52:53,130 --> 01:52:56,940 Thank you all all members of the board as well. For a fantastic 1746 01:52:56,940 --> 01:53:01,140 year. 2022 Who knew who the heck knows but it's gonna be a fun 1747 01:53:01,140 --> 01:53:04,020 ride. It always is. And we'll see you next week the first one 1748 01:53:04,020 --> 01:53:07,350 of the new year podcasts into porno. Have a great weekend, 1749 01:53:07,350 --> 01:53:08,070 everybody take care? 1750 01:53:24,030 --> 01:53:30,750 You been listening to podcasting 2.0 Visit podcast index.com for 1751 01:53:30,750 --> 01:53:33,930 more information. Cool.