1 00:00:00,599 --> 00:00:06,029 podcasting 2.0 for October 15 2021, Episode 58 we got 2 00:00:06,029 --> 00:00:12,389 activity in the pub. It's all the work I have to do on Fridays 3 00:00:12,419 --> 00:00:16,589 just come up with the opening Hello everybody's I'm once again 4 00:00:16,589 --> 00:00:20,489 for podcasting. 2.0 everything going on with podcasting 2.0 5 00:00:20,489 --> 00:00:23,909 podcasting index.org the namespace and of course the 6 00:00:23,909 --> 00:00:26,969 gossip and the latest going on a podcast index on social It is 7 00:00:26,969 --> 00:00:30,599 the only official board meeting and you're all welcome. I'm Adam 8 00:00:30,599 --> 00:00:34,079 Curry here in the heart of Hill Country Texas and then Alabama 9 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:36,899 the man who can make a wallet with drop shadow in a heartbeat 10 00:00:36,959 --> 00:00:39,329 my friend on the other end Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dave 11 00:00:39,329 --> 00:00:40,259 Jones. 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,260 Drop Shadow blink tag. 13 00:00:44,759 --> 00:00:48,209 Blink tag. Everybody's favorite the blink tag 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,569 was marquee what not the one that like, like, 15 00:00:52,050 --> 00:00:54,420 didn't that scroll and scroll? Yeah, scroll. 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:56,940 The horizontal scroll. Yeah. 17 00:00:57,149 --> 00:01:01,769 Yeah, that was the days of red GIF, red dot red ball dot GIF 18 00:01:01,769 --> 00:01:03,539 that's what it was a red ball budget 19 00:01:03,809 --> 00:01:05,909 or the this page is under construction with 20 00:01:06,390 --> 00:01:10,500 a little guy working with a shovel Yes, 21 00:01:10,529 --> 00:01:13,319 that's what that that little guy should be on every single thing 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,719 that we have right now. under construction. Yeah. 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,610 Yeah, I do remember that. Even corporate clients where should 24 00:01:20,610 --> 00:01:24,690 we have an under construction page? Well, no, let's get a real 25 00:01:24,690 --> 00:01:27,750 website up. No, no, we weren't under construction page. Okay. 26 00:01:28,350 --> 00:01:29,610 My kids say that should do. 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,100 Yeah. Yeah, that's impressive. That list had been you know, 28 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:32,790 you're working on it. 29 00:01:33,810 --> 00:01:37,260 Doing Dave today is a tough day for you in the in in real life. 30 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:41,880 Yeah, yeah, we're the firm our workforce tied to the accounting 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:42,570 industry. So 32 00:01:44,340 --> 00:01:50,130 yeah. I went to the post office because you know, last year's 33 00:01:50,130 --> 00:01:51,930 return that had really messed me up 34 00:01:52,770 --> 00:01:55,200 with this you know, with everybody nobody knew what was 35 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:55,350 that? 36 00:01:55,380 --> 00:01:58,590 Yeah with the Snowmageddon so they cashed a check but they 37 00:01:58,620 --> 00:02:02,190 they never acknowledged Well, they acknowledge receipt of our 38 00:02:02,490 --> 00:02:09,990 filing, which I sent in on paper and Well, whatever it is when we 39 00:02:09,990 --> 00:02:12,150 bought the house and they were doing you know, the typical 40 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:17,040 background search they said well, you need to prove that you 41 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,640 filed taxes last two years I didn't have it for the last year 42 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:23,580 there was no proof and you can go to the irs.gov and get a 43 00:02:25,980 --> 00:02:26,760 transcript Yeah, yeah 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,880 transcript Exactly. And so that didn't exist and that was a real 45 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,220 hassle but I was able to show the check that was cashed and I 46 00:02:32,220 --> 00:02:38,040 say well, that's okay then and so when I want to file I always 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:43,230 do Turbo Tax which is perfect for our situation. And you know, 48 00:02:43,290 --> 00:02:48,420 you have to have a correlation to last year's gross adjusted 49 00:02:48,420 --> 00:02:51,060 income and that's an exact number and that's how they match 50 00:02:51,060 --> 00:02:54,900 it to your filing properly and that is you and a PIN code and 51 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:58,260 none of that crap work so alright, I'll print it out Yeah, 52 00:02:58,260 --> 00:03:01,980 you know 100 pages take it off to the P o box and a whole bunch 53 00:03:01,980 --> 00:03:04,530 of people and they're all there like they all want to tracking 54 00:03:04,710 --> 00:03:07,770 they all want to see the postmark go on it you know we're 55 00:03:07,770 --> 00:03:10,470 all laughing in line like we don't trust these guys anymore. 56 00:03:11,220 --> 00:03:14,670 Oh man it's like the IRS last year they just left yeah they 57 00:03:14,670 --> 00:03:16,920 just gave up right here they were like alright we're going 58 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:23,070 home and whoa wait what we still do things it was it was talking 59 00:03:23,070 --> 00:03:23,610 last year 60 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,360 right so this is probably quite a hassle still 61 00:03:28,259 --> 00:03:33,539 yeah it's just still well i mean you get it's PPP cares act stuff 62 00:03:33,569 --> 00:03:37,259 there's you know there's health care lots health care money went 63 00:03:37,259 --> 00:03:42,629 out in various ways is actually still going out so you got to 64 00:03:42,629 --> 00:03:45,599 account for that it was just I mean I'm not an accountant but 65 00:03:45,899 --> 00:03:49,349 the you know, but I'm here enough accounting accounting 66 00:03:49,349 --> 00:03:53,999 stuff to know that it's just been a complete headache the 67 00:03:53,999 --> 00:03:58,319 people the people who have been saying forever that oh well you 68 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:02,789 know what you can become in a day where you will you'll just 69 00:04:02,789 --> 00:04:04,769 be able to fill out your taxes on a postcard 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,910 as long as I've been alive of her that one yeah should be just 71 00:04:09,060 --> 00:04:12,210 just one postcard size just tick tick tick tick you're good to go 72 00:04:12,210 --> 00:04:12,870 no problem. 73 00:04:13,050 --> 00:04:16,890 Haha yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be fun. Yeah, this way rose 74 00:04:16,890 --> 00:04:21,000 laughing because some you know some of the younger accountants 75 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,000 there oh they're always afraid that when they hear things like 76 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,060 that like no some but so and so this President is gonna simplify 77 00:04:27,060 --> 00:04:29,850 the tax code. Oh man. I'm worried about my job and 78 00:04:29,850 --> 00:04:30,720 everybody's like haha 79 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,810 oh yeah. won't have a job. That's funny. 80 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,640 I've heard this since the 60s. 81 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,720 Meanwhile, Bitcoin number go up like crazy. 82 00:04:43,380 --> 00:04:44,520 Oh, yeah, man is that thing? 83 00:04:45,810 --> 00:04:56,520 Yeah, let me check. My eyes are bad. 61,004 13 Yeah, that's 84 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,200 moving towards an 80 h Bay. 85 00:04:58,740 --> 00:05:02,280 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What is The eth is 6063 s 86 00:05:02,340 --> 00:05:06,240 62 eight or something, I think 63 but it's already above the 87 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,010 weekly top. So I think it'll probably I mean there's a 88 00:05:11,010 --> 00:05:14,070 resistance at 63 in a bid or something. 89 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,210 It sounds a day trader ish. Oh, I liked it. Well, this 90 00:05:18,210 --> 00:05:22,080 is why this is what I did. I day traded for two years. And I 91 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,820 hated it. I mean, I know actually loved the analysis. 92 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:30,870 Because it was all technical trading. It was scalping, you 93 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:34,020 know, like you held the stock for maybe a minute. Yeah. And 94 00:05:34,020 --> 00:05:35,730 like, boom, okay, got the pop out. 95 00:05:36,899 --> 00:05:38,819 You're using your Fibonacci and you're hitting 96 00:05:38,820 --> 00:05:43,950 Oh, my God, oh, way more than that. You've got the oscillating 97 00:05:43,950 --> 00:05:48,300 waves, you've got, oh, my God, I forgotten so much. But I still 98 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:53,100 have all my models. And so I have a couple of models applied 99 00:05:53,100 --> 00:05:57,390 to a weekly chart of Bitcoin. So I can see the main resistance 100 00:05:57,690 --> 00:06:00,270 levels and you know, where it has to break through and that 101 00:06:00,780 --> 00:06:03,270 that stuff on Bitcoin is actually quite beautiful for 102 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:04,500 technical analysis. 103 00:06:05,070 --> 00:06:07,350 It is pure, it's just pure. It is. 104 00:06:07,380 --> 00:06:10,320 It's just, you know, yeah, there's manipulation from people 105 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,230 who are buying or selling. But that kind of, you know, there 106 00:06:13,230 --> 00:06:15,780 are models that that know about that. So it's pretty good. I 107 00:06:15,780 --> 00:06:19,740 don't trade. I just in fact, I've, we've switched just to 108 00:06:20,460 --> 00:06:25,020 daily cost average. 100 bucks. That's it. No big buys on dips 109 00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:27,150 or anything. Just every day. Boop, boop, boop, boop, just a 110 00:06:27,150 --> 00:06:29,280 little bit. And, 111 00:06:30,089 --> 00:06:33,539 yeah, that's kind of the way I do it. Every time I like, once a 112 00:06:33,539 --> 00:06:36,689 month, I just Yeah, same thing. Yeah. Whatever in whatever I'm 113 00:06:36,689 --> 00:06:39,239 comfortable with. And then like, over time, you look back and 114 00:06:39,239 --> 00:06:41,549 you're like, oh, wow, I've actually built up, you know, 115 00:06:41,819 --> 00:06:42,329 yeah, well, 116 00:06:42,330 --> 00:06:44,700 how about the stats? The SAS, we've been stacking on the 117 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:45,330 index. 118 00:06:46,020 --> 00:06:49,740 Yeah, that's good. That's gonna so you want to talk about the, 119 00:06:50,190 --> 00:06:53,610 about the node that Tim set up? Yeah. Yeah, I did what we're 120 00:06:53,610 --> 00:06:54,120 doing with it, 121 00:06:54,119 --> 00:06:57,569 no, but it's gonna be great. Let's talk, let's, let's want to 122 00:06:57,569 --> 00:06:58,649 explain what we're doing. 123 00:06:59,729 --> 00:07:07,649 Well, so Tim, and Ellen pay, he set us up a dedicated LNP 124 00:07:07,679 --> 00:07:12,839 instance, for the index. And so we've been working with him for 125 00:07:12,839 --> 00:07:17,039 a while on this to get it up and running. And he's got it up and 126 00:07:17,039 --> 00:07:20,429 run and we've got your keys and everything set up in the the 127 00:07:20,429 --> 00:07:28,529 original idea was was that we will help onboard people into, 128 00:07:29,069 --> 00:07:33,059 into Elon, Elon pay, but it'll be our instance, rather than 129 00:07:33,059 --> 00:07:37,499 his. And that'll let us do some, some interesting things, some 130 00:07:37,499 --> 00:07:43,109 more, more detailed type of type of stuff. So there's stuff 131 00:07:43,109 --> 00:07:46,319 specific to you know, podcasting and what we're doing. And so 132 00:07:46,409 --> 00:07:51,839 the, the sort of blanket idea here is that on podcast or 133 00:07:51,839 --> 00:07:58,199 wallet, you will go in there and claim your feed. And then you'll 134 00:07:58,199 --> 00:08:06,509 be able to launch wallets for things like guests. That can in 135 00:08:06,659 --> 00:08:11,129 in Elon pay. But it'll be our instance of Elon pay. 136 00:08:11,340 --> 00:08:14,610 Okay, so as a new podcast, you can also use this to sign up. 137 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,400 Yeah, you will be able to Yeah, 138 00:08:18,029 --> 00:08:20,579 okay, that would make sense to you sign up. So that's your, 139 00:08:20,849 --> 00:08:23,969 your podcast wallet, and then we can spin up stuff for guests and 140 00:08:23,969 --> 00:08:27,809 other things. You can do that. I guess kind of like an Uncle Bob 141 00:08:27,809 --> 00:08:29,099 type situation, right? 142 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,270 Uncle Bob? 143 00:08:31,020 --> 00:08:33,810 I'm not saying Tom. But I'm saying not saying Uncle Tom for 144 00:08:33,810 --> 00:08:41,400 a resume. Try and don't say Tom don't say, Bob. Bob's your 145 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,390 uncle. Exactly. 146 00:08:43,020 --> 00:08:48,090 But it's okay. So it's, it's that's why I went back and 147 00:08:48,090 --> 00:08:51,000 started working on podcast or wallet number one we needed, we 148 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,940 need to split a split editor. Yep. And then also the ability 149 00:08:56,940 --> 00:09:01,740 to use custom key custom value that needed to be in there. But 150 00:09:01,740 --> 00:09:05,910 then, it also just needed a little bit of revamping. So that 151 00:09:05,910 --> 00:09:10,620 when we get ready to push this next phase out, which is the 152 00:09:10,620 --> 00:09:14,580 episode level splits, that's that would be my hope, would be 153 00:09:14,580 --> 00:09:19,710 the first instance of being able to use our node would be for 154 00:09:19,890 --> 00:09:26,100 somebody goes in, and they have their claimed podcast. And then 155 00:09:26,130 --> 00:09:29,760 let's just say that, let's say that Sam and James have a have 156 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,320 somebody on their show, like Brian, and he has he has a node 157 00:09:34,650 --> 00:09:37,830 and they could go in there. They they control their own fate a 158 00:09:37,830 --> 00:09:41,460 little bit, but Well, no, not on pod land that's on buzzsprout. 159 00:09:41,460 --> 00:09:45,150 So they, they would go in there to their dashboard and podcast 160 00:09:45,150 --> 00:09:47,160 wallet and 161 00:09:47,850 --> 00:09:51,510 pull their list. Oh, okay. Yeah. 162 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,220 Yeah. So they would go in there they would 163 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,870 publish you publish the episode and then you go into your little 164 00:09:57,870 --> 00:10:03,210 portal there at your podcast or wall. portal. Dippy WP Yeah, 165 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,100 repeat everything p2p. And then it'll suck in all the episodes. 166 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:10,800 You may think Ah, okay, this episode, I did need to add a 167 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,340 split. 168 00:10:11,970 --> 00:10:15,750 Yes, yeah. And so then it would it would clone your existing 169 00:10:15,750 --> 00:10:21,210 value block to that episode, and then open the split editor and 170 00:10:21,210 --> 00:10:24,660 allow you to add in an extra split now you could you could do 171 00:10:24,660 --> 00:10:28,920 it as a custom node where you manually copy and paste the node 172 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,930 ID in, or this other option would be to spin up an alien pay 173 00:10:33,930 --> 00:10:36,060 wallet Nice. Yeah. 174 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,350 And then how do you give access to the guest? To that wallet? 175 00:10:42,630 --> 00:10:43,410 To be determined. 176 00:10:45,420 --> 00:10:51,030 And now I have a split your money. Hey, have you seen? Have 177 00:10:51,030 --> 00:10:53,400 you ever had a chance to actually mess around with Curio 178 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,920 casters Jenny, the RSS Jenny? 179 00:10:56,219 --> 00:10:57,779 Not at all. Okay, so 180 00:10:57,780 --> 00:11:00,390 the good news is you could just do with any old feed right? You 181 00:11:00,390 --> 00:11:05,790 can just bring up any any podcast, you can say open an RSS 182 00:11:06,060 --> 00:11:09,480 editor. And you can mess with it. You can you can totally 183 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:14,730 bootleg feeds it's we haven't haven't talked about it. You can 184 00:11:14,730 --> 00:11:19,890 bootleg CDs real easy. But the reason I'd like you to do that 185 00:11:19,890 --> 00:11:22,860 is to see how he did his value block editor because he does a 186 00:11:22,860 --> 00:11:26,280 lot of that you can clone over from your from your from your 187 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,210 feed level. But he also has an auto calculator in there. So if 188 00:11:30,210 --> 00:11:33,210 you do a split versus a fee, and it makes sure you don't go over 189 00:11:33,210 --> 00:11:34,170 100% 190 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:37,800 in the podcast, or while I want to be logged in No, because 191 00:11:37,830 --> 00:11:41,520 I got the reset email and it says, you know, click here and 192 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,590 then it says we're sending you the password, and then I never 193 00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:47,100 get that one. That will but I didn't want to bother you. I 194 00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:49,650 didn't want to. It's clearly you. 195 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,650 Yeah, it's me. I don't want to interact with you there even 196 00:11:55,650 --> 00:11:55,800 though 197 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,710 it's obvious if there's something wrong with you, D Kim 198 00:12:00,210 --> 00:12:06,630 Tiki, whatever. You gotta get it. Yeah. And I'll reset your 199 00:12:06,630 --> 00:12:10,020 password for you. And that way you can get at least see it. 200 00:12:10,590 --> 00:12:11,220 Before I 201 00:12:11,820 --> 00:12:14,430 criticize it. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I wasn't 202 00:12:14,430 --> 00:12:16,440 criticizing because I haven't seen it. I just want to make 203 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,410 sure that you've seen how Steven did it. 204 00:12:20,130 --> 00:12:24,360 I have not seen how Steven does it. But I'm looking right now. 205 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,920 Actually podcasting 2.0 206 00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:30,840 I'm sure you've come up with something entirely similar. I 207 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,350 guess what I'm, what I'm what I'm looking at is I'm like, holy 208 00:12:34,350 --> 00:12:38,370 crap. Steve, did this work? How do I get Stephens code into your 209 00:12:38,370 --> 00:12:42,900 hands? You don't have to do it again? It No, it may be maybe 210 00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:46,920 two different infrastructures. I'm just thinking pragmatically. 211 00:12:47,429 --> 00:12:50,999 And I asked for that asked if anybody wanted to wanted to do 212 00:12:50,999 --> 00:12:54,419 it wanted to tackle sort of creating that UI. And then you 213 00:12:54,419 --> 00:12:58,769 know, I thought well, really, it's gonna it's one of those 214 00:12:58,769 --> 00:13:02,669 things where I ended up, there was so much integration stuff to 215 00:13:02,669 --> 00:13:05,429 go in on our end part of this is because I don't use a 216 00:13:05,429 --> 00:13:11,219 declarative UI type language. So that means like, something like 217 00:13:11,219 --> 00:13:14,519 react where you it's the declarative versus imperative 218 00:13:14,519 --> 00:13:19,409 style type of, of programming here. And declarative would be 219 00:13:19,409 --> 00:13:25,799 something like, I want a screen that looks like this. And it has 220 00:13:25,799 --> 00:13:30,929 these parts in these inputs in these connectors, and this is 221 00:13:30,929 --> 00:13:33,449 what I want it to look like, you describe what you want the 222 00:13:33,449 --> 00:13:39,179 screen to look like, and then the framework makes it happen. 223 00:13:39,210 --> 00:13:40,830 That's what does our react does. 224 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:47,070 That's, that's vs, that's the basics of react, then versus an 225 00:13:47,070 --> 00:13:51,300 imperative style, which would be I want it to look like this, and 226 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:55,110 I'm going to tell the framework, every, 227 00:13:55,500 --> 00:13:59,400 every parameter, every bit every cent and you prefer that method. 228 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,880 I don't really know what I prefer. I mean, the declarative 229 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,300 part is stuff I've done, I've done declarative through yamo, 230 00:14:06,330 --> 00:14:12,420 in C sharp, and I like it. The, the and it's great up until a 231 00:14:12,420 --> 00:14:15,930 point and I think it's I think it depends a lot on how much of 232 00:14:15,930 --> 00:14:20,280 a control freak you are, which I sort of AM. If you're kind of a 233 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,150 control nut, and you want to just really be aware of every 234 00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:29,520 little piece that's happening at every every moment, then then 235 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:35,220 programming your UI is probably more along the lines of the way 236 00:14:35,220 --> 00:14:39,060 your mind works, versus letting the framework do a lot of the 237 00:14:39,060 --> 00:14:42,720 lift for you. But you know, I really don't care in the grand 238 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,400 scheme of things. I think I just got 239 00:14:44,790 --> 00:14:46,800 put Did you get a drop shadow in other way? 240 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,070 No drugs, no impulse. 241 00:14:51,870 --> 00:14:54,360 Just you should just put a little red ball dot GIF in there 242 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,140 just for fun. But you still have one 243 00:15:00,929 --> 00:15:06,029 I'm still using, you know, JavaScript stuff from 10 years 244 00:15:06,029 --> 00:15:09,989 ago. I'm so behind the times on front end things that I could 245 00:15:09,989 --> 00:15:13,709 somebody could just would just laugh at everything I do. So no, 246 00:15:13,739 --> 00:15:15,629 I won't. Definitely not going to compare notes. 247 00:15:15,690 --> 00:15:19,530 This is this is phenomenal feature that you've created. How 248 00:15:19,530 --> 00:15:23,670 far along? Is it? Is it were the editors working? Right? 249 00:15:24,030 --> 00:15:28,950 We had the split editors working. So the next step will 250 00:15:28,950 --> 00:15:32,100 be to, to be able to 251 00:15:32,100 --> 00:15:34,350 put to add the guest wallet. 252 00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:39,900 Yes. Yes, that's right. Yeah, to be able to do the guest while 253 00:15:39,900 --> 00:15:46,290 and that part will entail hooking into the LNP node. You 254 00:15:46,290 --> 00:15:48,900 know, but then part of this is we have to talk all this stuff 255 00:15:48,900 --> 00:15:53,700 out with Eric, because we don't want to wait, before we start 256 00:15:53,700 --> 00:15:56,850 holding people sat, we got to be sure. on the business side, we 257 00:15:56,850 --> 00:16:00,210 know what we're, yeah, we know what the plan is. I don't want 258 00:16:00,210 --> 00:16:00,960 to get ahead of him. 259 00:16:01,410 --> 00:16:02,820 No kidding. Yeah. 260 00:16:03,090 --> 00:16:05,370 Eric, by the way, we have we know we're holding 10 million 261 00:16:05,370 --> 00:16:08,670 sets for people. And he's like, what? No, 262 00:16:08,910 --> 00:16:14,100 yeah. But we have we have all the data. We have, we have the 263 00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:17,280 database, we knew when we know when it came in. Now, this is 264 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:22,560 indeed the issue, I think, to be even more rows transparent as we 265 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,010 are about it is, you know, we see all kinds of issues coming 266 00:16:26,010 --> 00:16:29,910 down the road. And the last thing we wanted is to not have 267 00:16:29,910 --> 00:16:32,940 anyone wanting, you know, more people drop off say, Well, you 268 00:16:32,940 --> 00:16:36,600 know, this is kind of messy with this custodial versus non 269 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,840 custodial. So, you know, I think that's, that's an outstanding 270 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:45,480 role for podcast index, is to take something like that on and 271 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,760 do what is legally possible, and to make it work. And we'll see 272 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:57,690 how how bad that gets, I mean, that we have to KYC podcasters. 273 00:16:57,690 --> 00:17:03,390 Yeah, I'm, like, 99% Sure, that's gonna have to happen. But 274 00:17:03,420 --> 00:17:06,480 yeah, anything, anything above that is gonna be you know, and 275 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,420 then it's like, okay, is the guest we're holding it so that 276 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,150 the guest is a part of the host is a part of you know, that 277 00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:15,360 paperwork is something I have no visibility over. 278 00:17:16,170 --> 00:17:19,320 You know, the other part of that is that we want to make sure 279 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:25,620 that that Ellen pay is a is a thing that people can depend on 280 00:17:25,620 --> 00:17:29,520 for the for the long haul for sure. So like, for instance, a 281 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,370 lot of our apps, they're, they're using L and PE as their 282 00:17:32,370 --> 00:17:35,610 back end for the podcast or for their listener wallets. Exactly. 283 00:17:36,090 --> 00:17:41,190 And we want to make sure that that with him. So we're now 284 00:17:41,220 --> 00:17:44,940 paying customers him, you know, we're paying him each month to 285 00:17:44,940 --> 00:17:50,190 have a node. And that helps him to monetize and to be able to 286 00:17:50,190 --> 00:17:54,540 stick around in hat because before maintenance, Tim was 287 00:17:54,540 --> 00:17:57,720 doing this really out of the kindness of his heart, and 288 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,350 because he's a geek and an enthusiast, and he wanted to do 289 00:18:01,350 --> 00:18:05,760 it. But you know, there comes a point where, if you're holding, 290 00:18:06,270 --> 00:18:10,980 you know, 50 million SATs, you really it becomes a business 291 00:18:10,980 --> 00:18:14,640 whether you want it to be or not. Exactly. And so we needed 292 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:20,820 to give him you know, the, the raising reward that Yeah, so we, 293 00:18:20,820 --> 00:18:23,760 you know, we're doing this really to say, okay, hey, you 294 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,170 know, podcast apps, y'all can depend on Ellen pay to build on 295 00:18:28,170 --> 00:18:30,840 top of rather than saying, you know, okay, well, you know, 296 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,280 hopefully hit 10 will be around. 297 00:18:32,580 --> 00:18:36,180 Yeah. And hopefully, Tim will be around, we'd like having him 298 00:18:36,180 --> 00:18:38,730 around. He's a fun guy to have around. Yeah. 299 00:18:39,150 --> 00:18:42,990 Yeah. But, you know, so he'll, well, that's, that's where we're 300 00:18:42,990 --> 00:18:47,310 at. And then hopefully, we'll be able to do some things like, one 301 00:18:47,310 --> 00:18:53,490 of the things that pod verse has been waiting on to, to implement 302 00:18:55,230 --> 00:18:59,430 streaming stats is they want they what they want is to be 303 00:18:59,430 --> 00:19:08,280 able to spin up a listener wallet in a way that where they 304 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,310 give the listener their own, where they give the listener 305 00:19:11,310 --> 00:19:14,850 their own credentials. So part verse doesn't want to have to be 306 00:19:14,850 --> 00:19:17,940 the management portion of that, of course, they want to create a 307 00:19:17,940 --> 00:19:22,350 wallet, and then give in and say, Okay, here's, here's your 308 00:19:22,350 --> 00:19:26,550 credentials. Now you can go to the LM pay dashboard and manage 309 00:19:26,550 --> 00:19:30,090 your own stuff, right? And there's really no way to do that 310 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:35,400 currently through through Tim's LNP instance. But that's, that's 311 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:41,550 something that we'll be doing is being able to do back apps that 312 00:19:41,550 --> 00:19:45,300 want to do it that way. What we'll do, we'll give them an a, 313 00:19:45,420 --> 00:19:49,380 an interface to be able to make that happen. And that will that 314 00:19:49,380 --> 00:19:54,000 will allow pod verse to to to ship so anyway that there's a 315 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,070 lot of stuff on the on the on the radar screen for 316 00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:59,160 that also, boo pod station, will it not 317 00:20:00,870 --> 00:20:04,410 Yeah, I think that would solve his problem. Do you have the 318 00:20:04,410 --> 00:20:06,240 same type of deal? It's like, uh, you know, look, I don't I 319 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,020 don't even want to. I don't even want to know, man. Yeah, 320 00:20:10,769 --> 00:20:15,569 exactly. Yeah, very good now. Okay. So along with this, you're 321 00:20:15,569 --> 00:20:21,659 doing all kinds of other work that involves activity pub. 322 00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:25,980 Beginning network. Yeah. Yeah. What 323 00:20:25,980 --> 00:20:30,690 exactly is this? Is this the chat? The cross app comments Is 324 00:20:30,690 --> 00:20:32,460 this what exactly is that piece? 325 00:20:33,870 --> 00:20:37,500 So this will be what? What we will implement as a proof of 326 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:39,720 concept for the live stuff. 327 00:20:41,310 --> 00:20:44,520 And Moe is freaking out. He's like, I can't wait. Oh, yeah. 328 00:20:44,550 --> 00:20:46,770 He's like, I can't wait to pull everyone from YouTube. We're 329 00:20:46,770 --> 00:20:49,440 gonna pull all limbs. He's like, we got to put put a lot of 330 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,870 energy into YouTube. Get him on on the YouTube. Everyone's in 331 00:20:51,870 --> 00:20:55,500 the YouTube live there. We're gonna take him away. Yes, 332 00:20:55,500 --> 00:21:00,360 absolutely. We're gonna take him away. Yeah, I mean, so he says 333 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:03,480 that part's easy. He seen him do it with Odyssey and a number of 334 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,660 other plays rumble even bit as long as you have it, they'll 335 00:21:06,660 --> 00:21:07,710 follow they'll go. 336 00:21:08,580 --> 00:21:11,100 I believe that, I totally believe that if as long as you 337 00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:13,920 make the experience similar enough to where it feels the 338 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,980 same? You know, I don't know, why wouldn't you it's just a 339 00:21:16,980 --> 00:21:17,400 waste. I 340 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,490 know, you do both at the same time, you know, simulcast for a 341 00:21:20,490 --> 00:21:22,560 little bit, and then you just shut off the YouTube and then 342 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,040 everyone's over. Huh. And the way you do that is with the 343 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,740 super chats, which you know, we will have we will have the 344 00:21:28,740 --> 00:21:31,470 booster grams, the live booster grams, that's where the action 345 00:21:31,470 --> 00:21:31,890 is at. 346 00:21:32,700 --> 00:21:38,160 So the way that the way that it'll happen in this is my least 347 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,850 initially This is the vision here. And in this code is 348 00:21:41,850 --> 00:21:46,860 somewhat somewhat framed in I'm, I'm still sort of putting the 349 00:21:47,370 --> 00:21:53,910 last touches on on the frame framework of this is that we 350 00:21:53,910 --> 00:21:58,800 will publish the feed. So like this week, when you go to 351 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,490 publish after we record today, you would you would put in the 352 00:22:02,490 --> 00:22:07,140 live item for the next following week. Right? You would put it in 353 00:22:07,140 --> 00:22:09,990 for, you know, October or whatever. 354 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,430 I pre publish it. Yeah. For the for the live date. Yeah. And is 355 00:22:14,430 --> 00:22:17,730 it a timestamp or full timestamp, which isn't a date? 356 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:22,140 No, it's full timestamp, okay. So the, you'd have a live live 357 00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:29,070 item in there with a link to the node nogen does stream and then 358 00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:34,830 a pub, a pub date or a go live date as part of that live item 359 00:22:34,830 --> 00:22:38,340 that says Okay, at this moment, at this timestamp on this date, 360 00:22:38,580 --> 00:22:40,020 that's when we're going to go live. 361 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,650 And so then that goes into the hive blockchain, it hits the 362 00:22:43,650 --> 00:22:47,370 index, the index pings, the activity pub that that pings all 363 00:22:47,370 --> 00:22:48,150 of the apps. 364 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:51,810 Okay. 365 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,730 I just strung my own version together. Continue, please. 366 00:22:56,790 --> 00:22:57,120 Okay. 367 00:22:58,380 --> 00:23:00,150 Something like that. Yeah, I 368 00:23:00,150 --> 00:23:01,140 knew I was close. 369 00:23:02,580 --> 00:23:06,780 Pink pinging? Yes. But yes, all these things and things happen. 370 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:13,830 Okay, so then you publish, then the apps will see. They'll see 371 00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:14,940 today's episode. 372 00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:19,620 Oh, this is jlc live Ah, and so that they set their own little 373 00:23:19,650 --> 00:23:22,830 timer, their own little internal alert? 374 00:23:23,340 --> 00:23:25,710 Yes. So they'll they'll see the timestamp. And they'll they'll, 375 00:23:25,710 --> 00:23:28,320 what they'll see is an item it says, it's going to go there's 376 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,090 gonna be a live stream on this day at this time. And then it'll 377 00:23:33,090 --> 00:23:37,590 be just there. And they can they can index it into the app and 378 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:42,630 show it in some way. Then when that time, when it gets close to 379 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:49,230 that time to that timestamp, the app can begin to watch pod 380 00:23:49,230 --> 00:23:54,840 paying for that signal that happens to say that the live 381 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,010 stream has actually started. Okay, because you want to 382 00:23:59,010 --> 00:24:00,420 timestamp in there. Yep. 383 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,900 To be to be aware to be on on your calendar interest 384 00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:07,770 sort of via Yeah, yeah, but but but then you may not go on live 385 00:24:07,770 --> 00:24:10,200 Exactly. At that moment, I have technical problems or something 386 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,870 like that. So you at that moment, what you want to do is 387 00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:15,570 you just want to wait around and say, Okay, I'm looking for the 388 00:24:15,570 --> 00:24:19,080 best signal to tell me when to actually start streaming. Right. 389 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,260 So 390 00:24:19,260 --> 00:24:22,680 you're just you're just watching pod ping at that, at that point. 391 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:27,330 Yes. But the full pod ping because that's just flooding in. 392 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:31,440 You're watching it for a special for a special piping that has 393 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:39,060 that that reason code and live reason. Then you can like for 394 00:24:39,060 --> 00:24:42,750 our for our proof of concept what it'll be is the, the 395 00:24:42,750 --> 00:24:46,560 software that we're that I'm putting together wool will begin 396 00:24:46,590 --> 00:24:50,070 we'll look at that and begin doing that. Then you will be 397 00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:54,240 able to go to that page. It'll be something like you know, like 398 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,680 live dot podcast index.org or something. You go to that page 399 00:24:59,220 --> 00:25:06,720 and When the stream goes live, it'll start up. And as another 400 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,720 component to the live item tag in the RSS feed, is a link to 401 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,860 the stream URL 402 00:25:14,219 --> 00:25:19,709 to the activity pub URL. Oh, no, no, not stream your will ever 403 00:25:19,709 --> 00:25:23,639 need that'll be in there too. But it'll be a link to a route 404 00:25:23,639 --> 00:25:25,259 item for the activity box. How 405 00:25:25,260 --> 00:25:26,460 does that get created? 406 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,710 You can create it any you could create it anywhere. And that's 407 00:25:31,710 --> 00:25:34,920 where I'm currently trying to figure out where's this? 408 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:37,560 I guess I'm the reason I'm asking is because I recall that 409 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:43,020 being the main question, Who owns the right of the comment, 410 00:25:43,020 --> 00:25:44,520 the root node of the conversation, 411 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:50,400 and I think what I'm probably going to do is just create a 412 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:57,600 false root node inside software as as a placeholder, because it 413 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,600 really ultimately doesn't matter. It could be in any 414 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,730 activity pub compliant system. So you could, you know, if you 415 00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:08,730 wanted to, you could create a route, sort of a route and route 416 00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:15,030 post on podcast and index dot social, the only issue there is, 417 00:26:15,210 --> 00:26:19,380 then you have to have people are interacting with it, they'll 418 00:26:19,380 --> 00:26:23,970 have to have be able to tie their identities back to that 419 00:26:23,970 --> 00:26:28,260 somehow. So I'm thinking for just for ease of initial rollout 420 00:26:28,260 --> 00:26:33,120 here, just create a fake root node within the software. And 421 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:37,080 then as people go to the page, when people go to the page, it 422 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,500 will automatically create an identity for them. Sort of like 423 00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:44,490 the RFC does in the troll room. Like you go in there and says, 424 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,730 Yeah, what do you want named Webb? 577294. 425 00:26:47,790 --> 00:26:50,820 Yeah, yeah. No, ask you what your name is gonna be stored in 426 00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:53,850 local storage or in a cookie. And so then when if you if your 427 00:26:53,850 --> 00:26:57,030 browser closes and comes back, you're the same person. And then 428 00:26:57,030 --> 00:26:57,300 we'll 429 00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:00,960 recognize my identity from podcast index dot social. 430 00:27:01,860 --> 00:27:06,480 Well, that would be that would be another steps. Yeah, that, 431 00:27:06,510 --> 00:27:08,850 you know, that's what I'm talking about. Like if we, if we 432 00:27:08,850 --> 00:27:11,580 want to, eventually we'll do that connected. 433 00:27:11,610 --> 00:27:16,590 Okay. Yeah, I don't I don't want to complicate it. Okay. So the 434 00:27:16,590 --> 00:27:19,980 main issue of the root node being he who holds the root 435 00:27:19,980 --> 00:27:24,480 node, they who hold the root node can also delete it and and 436 00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:27,630 is the last row and yeah, okay, that's the thing that some 437 00:27:27,630 --> 00:27:29,790 people don't like and you've made a choice. 438 00:27:30,660 --> 00:27:33,540 Yeah, and I think I mean, you have to be able to moderate so 439 00:27:33,630 --> 00:27:37,470 it's just gonna be me for proof of concept is easier just to 440 00:27:37,470 --> 00:27:41,430 create a sort of fake internal nodes. Because Because then you 441 00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:45,390 know, like, will be, it'll be activity pub compliant. Some 442 00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:48,570 other we can federate out somebody else can monitor can 443 00:27:48,570 --> 00:27:54,360 look at those activities. And and then they'll federate. But 444 00:27:55,170 --> 00:27:59,910 for simplicity it'll it'll all just be you know, internal to 445 00:27:59,910 --> 00:28:00,720 bandeian with 446 00:28:00,749 --> 00:28:03,119 and so for this you will actually be doing in doing this 447 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:08,099 interaction on the page itself. Not within your app. 448 00:28:09,210 --> 00:28:11,910 Yes, yes initially because for this proof of concept Yes, 449 00:28:11,910 --> 00:28:14,640 because the page is a wall sort of mimic what 450 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,070 an app would do and where did the booster Graham show up? 451 00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:19,890 Well the histograms show up in the page as well so there'll be 452 00:28:19,890 --> 00:28:24,300 this nice this scrolling. My vision for this thing is it's a 453 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:30,600 scrolling list of boosts of of activity and so some of them are 454 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,270 activity pub stream comments and those are going to be sort of 455 00:28:33,270 --> 00:28:34,290 like on the left 456 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,260 and then the Super Chat or the boosted grams yet 457 00:28:37,980 --> 00:28:41,910 gonna be integrated in there in Tom step spray timespans tam 458 00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:44,670 sprinkled in there on the on the on the right 459 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,510 so good people like how do I get in how do I do that? How do I 460 00:28:48,510 --> 00:28:50,250 get into those things over there 461 00:28:51,090 --> 00:28:57,960 and those will come in from any app in real time see in order to 462 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,750 enter in order to just simply chat you would be would put you 463 00:29:00,750 --> 00:29:02,970 know just type or chat into the box on the page right right 464 00:29:02,970 --> 00:29:06,030 right to get a booster gram in you know you boost through from 465 00:29:06,030 --> 00:29:07,260 Instagram and of course 466 00:29:07,259 --> 00:29:11,669 the the web apps won't will have a lot more trouble notifying me 467 00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:12,899 that something is going on 468 00:29:15,060 --> 00:29:16,110 what do you mean like going on 469 00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:20,280 of notifying the you know like waiting waiting for the bad 470 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,800 signal if I don't have the web app open is not going to be 471 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,250 waiting 472 00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:28,620 well I mean, they know the backend server would be would be 473 00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:31,380 the one doing that work so they if you just pulled the page up 474 00:29:32,220 --> 00:29:34,110 it would auto it would already know it would already be 475 00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:36,630 I understand but there's no there's I don't believe there's 476 00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:41,580 a way for pod friend or Curio caster to just notify me 477 00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:42,600 something's happening. 478 00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:45,660 Oh, I see what you mean. Well, you could turn on web 479 00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:47,040 notifications. I mean, that's, 480 00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:50,430 that's Oh, that's true. Yeah. Well, you know what, just shoot 481 00:29:50,430 --> 00:29:53,100 me an email. I'll be happy to give any given email address for 482 00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,440 that. Or an activity pub notice. 483 00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:59,070 Yeah. doored or just ring my doorbell just like impressment 484 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,480 Come on martin Come on man show some initiative ring my doorbell 485 00:30:04,830 --> 00:30:08,340 Yeah, Amazon can walk it. Yeah. What's your problem? Hey, 486 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,830 what's up with with pod friend we have a new a new beta out. 487 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,450 Tina was in tears he 488 00:30:15,450 --> 00:30:15,990 published. 489 00:30:17,010 --> 00:30:22,590 He has like, pod friend is like this bass expired. That's gone. 490 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,480 She doesn't use that. Just pay, talk to that Danish guy and get 491 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,660 another version up. Yeah, no, that wasn't her either, but 492 00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:32,610 somewhere in the middle. Yeah, just 493 00:30:33,630 --> 00:30:37,710 know I got a new version of it on my on my test flight 494 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,250 now. Okay, then hopefully she has that now then. She just 495 00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:43,800 mentioned to me yesterday. She's like, what's going on? 496 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,850 Yeah. Okay. We're we're gonna funny about that later. That. 497 00:30:49,170 --> 00:30:51,780 Okay, well, this is very exciting. This is very exciting. 498 00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:54,750 Dave, thank you for doing all this work. This is this is like, 499 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,590 yeah, this is what I've really been been dreaming of. For this 500 00:30:58,620 --> 00:31:01,650 to happen, we're really getting down to some brass tacks and, 501 00:31:01,890 --> 00:31:05,190 and with this live stuff, what a super bonus to anything that we 502 00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:09,030 could have imagined. And there's just so much good thinking going 503 00:31:09,030 --> 00:31:09,960 on about this. 504 00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:16,050 And out Alice Gates is, is the master of of these protocols. 505 00:31:16,050 --> 00:31:20,100 And so I'd really been relying on him in his advice to get that 506 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,560 to get to get it all put together because what it needs, 507 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,920 what it'll be on the back end, it'll be activity, strip, 508 00:31:26,010 --> 00:31:33,300 activity, pub. activity, activity, pub management going 509 00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:38,100 on, on the server side. And then, but what communicates with 510 00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:44,400 the browser will be a G RPC client. And so that's, that's 511 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,260 going to be a, here's my initial design idea. I'm just going to 512 00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:54,810 take the pod pain code that what the, the code for the front end 513 00:31:54,810 --> 00:31:58,560 of pod pain that accepts the GET requests and all that, it take 514 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,240 that cuz this bill is it's a rust x single rust executable, 515 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:09,120 take that input and put in the G RPC support. So then what it'll 516 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,190 do is it'll that that code will act as the web server serving 517 00:32:14,190 --> 00:32:18,960 the page. And therefore it'll be serving GET requests. When 518 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,670 people come to the page and give you the initial HTML, then it's 519 00:32:23,670 --> 00:32:27,480 also it will also be running a G RPC server. And then there'll be 520 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,400 a web g RPC client on the HTML page they'll just refresh it'll 521 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,050 we'll be streaming lifetime Oh yeah. Real Time stream that's 522 00:32:37,050 --> 00:32:40,560 just an open connection that's constant. Miners will surface me 523 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,670 to do like long polling 524 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:44,730 mines will surface a player on that page just in case. 525 00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:48,840 Yeah, there's already one on it. Okay. Yeah. On the in the in the 526 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,590 test code, okay. That'll be what I want. And the reason I'm doing 527 00:32:52,590 --> 00:32:54,870 all that is because we've already got all the HTTP stuff 528 00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:57,420 built in in a nice rust executable, so we don't have to 529 00:32:57,420 --> 00:32:58,230 worry about security. 530 00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:06,510 I love a nice rust executable. had that for breakfast with some 531 00:33:06,510 --> 00:33:07,710 fig fig jam. 532 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,230 fig jelly. A big jam is actually really good. I had 533 00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:20,490 I got some some strawberry jam and it had pepper in and a 534 00:33:20,490 --> 00:33:25,620 peppers, jalapeno peppers. Love pepper, pepper jelly, but a home 535 00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:30,930 like oh, especially. I'm a peanut butter and jelly kind of 536 00:33:30,930 --> 00:33:34,020 guy. That's like Ah, it's 1030 at night. I'm hungry. I'm like 537 00:33:34,020 --> 00:33:37,560 peanut butter and jelly on a hamburger bun. But of course 538 00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:42,540 this may Cohen coincide with smoking of some flowers. So like 539 00:33:43,380 --> 00:33:47,550 peanut butter and then I bought this stuff like whoa, I'm just 540 00:33:47,550 --> 00:33:48,150 sitting there. 541 00:33:49,530 --> 00:33:54,330 Okay, so we didn't have to do the best way to do pepper jelly 542 00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:56,550 is Yeah, he do 543 00:33:56,580 --> 00:33:59,190 main line is straighten his artery. No, no, 544 00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:02,909 no, no, that's a bad idea. Unless you have nothing to do 545 00:34:02,909 --> 00:34:06,629 the rest of the day on the bathroom. You you go with a 546 00:34:06,629 --> 00:34:10,979 triscuit and then a little bit of cream cheese and aluminum 547 00:34:10,979 --> 00:34:15,059 pepper jelly. No, it's brutal. Now 548 00:34:15,089 --> 00:34:17,849 it's brown. I think I would substitute the triscuit for a 549 00:34:17,849 --> 00:34:18,749 Ritz cracker. 550 00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:21,119 That that is a better idea 551 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,100 that it'll kill me quicker but yeah, 552 00:34:26,130 --> 00:34:29,400 you know I don't know if you're if if this is just an American 553 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,530 thing, but do you know the cracker called chicken in a 554 00:34:31,530 --> 00:34:36,750 biscuit? No, I don't. Okay, look for it in storage. It's a it's 555 00:34:36,750 --> 00:34:40,530 just called chicken in a biscuit. It's like a it's like a 556 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,980 little rectangular shaped rich cracker thing, but it's got some 557 00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:46,290 seasoning on it. Oh, that's good stuff. 558 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,490 Huh? Is it thin? 559 00:34:47,490 --> 00:34:51,450 That's good stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's about the it's it looks 560 00:34:51,450 --> 00:34:55,320 kind of like a risk cracker but it's rectangular. In a biscuit, 561 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:55,650 baby. 562 00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:59,970 Oh, I see it here. Oh my goodness. That chicken biscuit. 563 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,920 Big snack crackers wow that's from Nabisco. 564 00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:14,040 Oh that you know, that deserves you to play. I so Alabama, 565 00:35:14,130 --> 00:35:16,050 Alabama of all places. 566 00:35:17,369 --> 00:35:19,739 What about Alabama of all places? 567 00:35:20,189 --> 00:35:20,999 Yep. That's 568 00:35:21,959 --> 00:35:23,069 Michigan in a biscuit. 569 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:30,750 Play Texas. Why are you there? So Texas? Of course, Texas. You 570 00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:32,550 know who that is? Let me listen. 571 00:35:32,610 --> 00:35:39,240 Of course, Texas. Of course, Texas. No. 572 00:35:40,410 --> 00:35:41,250 Jen briny. 573 00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:45,990 Oh, and then she's Oh, hmm. I never talked with her then. 574 00:35:46,890 --> 00:35:51,150 Sounds like he was one of those. Of course the racists in Texas. 575 00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:55,500 Yep. Yeah, and how about Alabama, Alabama, and 576 00:35:55,500 --> 00:36:01,320 this is Tom Fox in all places. And we're talking about 577 00:36:01,770 --> 00:36:05,880 Alabama having an electric ferry. Not gas powered failing 578 00:36:06,570 --> 00:36:10,530 places. Because y'all y'all are just rednecks. You'd like your 579 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,390 rolling coal you ain't gonna use no electrics things. Yeah, cuz 580 00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:17,730 everybody knows we're a bunch of dumb ass That's right. You're 581 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,950 eating your chicken in a biscuit. 582 00:36:20,430 --> 00:36:22,020 Sometimes I forget to eat because I'm just 583 00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:26,220 too busy with my horse dewormer 584 00:36:26,489 --> 00:36:29,579 cutting down a chicken on a biscuit 585 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:34,980 I got my horse to warm I'm a chicken biscuit That's right. 586 00:36:35,010 --> 00:36:37,980 Hey, all I know is a lot of people I know in Australia I 587 00:36:37,980 --> 00:36:41,700 think in Texas looks pretty good right now. They're having real 588 00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:43,920 conversations about it like Should we go live in hill 589 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,530 country? That sounds better than what we're what's going on here. 590 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,060 Adam Can you get us Can you get us green cards? Or passports? 591 00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,990 I've done a lot of those actually. With a guy I don't 592 00:36:54,990 --> 00:36:57,630 think you can do it anymore it's crazy now you can't get 593 00:36:57,630 --> 00:36:58,410 appointments 594 00:36:58,410 --> 00:37:01,440 and when no you can't do it you just walk in through the border 595 00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:01,830 so you 596 00:37:02,010 --> 00:37:04,740 know that's that's the way to go. I finally got my daughter 597 00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:09,360 was in passport jail for 10 years she she had a password she 598 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,330 lost a passport got a new one issued when she was in Los 599 00:37:12,330 --> 00:37:16,980 Angeles Bless you. And and then it one was stolen, like within a 600 00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:20,160 year of each other. And they said and then in order to get a 601 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,100 new passport, I had to get her documentation from her grade 602 00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:26,790 school. And I was like t verse Oh yeah, no, they were being a 603 00:37:26,820 --> 00:37:31,110 holes about it. And in a way it's like okay dumb ass How can 604 00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:34,560 you lose and get you're just dumb is dumb kids and she 605 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,350 learned her lesson because for 10 years, they would only give 606 00:37:37,350 --> 00:37:42,690 her a one year passport. And so now she's in the system, where 607 00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:45,270 they're just like automatically one year in one year not gonna 608 00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:49,110 do anything. And I'm looking at the situation of the worlds that 609 00:37:49,110 --> 00:37:51,930 I want you to have a valid passport and American passport 610 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,230 is a Dutch one. So you should have a valid one that is good. 611 00:37:55,260 --> 00:37:58,050 You know, if you need to move around for some reason, you 612 00:37:58,050 --> 00:38:01,440 never know what's going to happen. And so I had to backdoor 613 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,580 it. I had to go through my Dutch military contacts to talk to the 614 00:38:05,820 --> 00:38:09,000 ambassador to talk to the embassy to talk the council 615 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,570 thing or whatever. And it worked. But Holy crap, it was 616 00:38:12,570 --> 00:38:13,350 not easy. 617 00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:17,100 He ended up he ended up in Mark Ritter's bathroom for some 618 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:17,460 reason. 619 00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:23,130 They say a lot of weird things about him. So no. 620 00:38:25,980 --> 00:38:27,870 Maybe you just have to deal with the one year passport. Okay. 621 00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:33,990 Yeah, we'll take care of it. That's very exciting. I'm I'm 622 00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:38,190 very, I'm anticipating that do you have kind of a timeline? 623 00:38:38,190 --> 00:38:41,430 Couple weeks month? Yeah. Who knows? Whatever. Right? 624 00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:47,610 Do the hell knows? Yeah. I mean, like, I would say that it's 625 00:38:47,610 --> 00:38:52,650 going to be if the coding is not going to take as long as I had 626 00:38:52,650 --> 00:38:55,620 originally thought, because, because you're that good. Now 627 00:38:55,620 --> 00:38:59,190 that can repurpose. Right? Because I can repurpose that 628 00:38:59,250 --> 00:39:03,270 that pod PIN code. So that's really save a lot, a lot of 629 00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:06,390 stuff. The other thing is I haven't written rust in six 630 00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:09,300 months. So I gotta, I gotta learn, you know, get back, get 631 00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:12,630 my chops back on that, Benny, but I think I don't think it'll 632 00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:15,630 be too bad. The good thing about activity pub is now that I 633 00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:20,040 understand it. It's actually very easy. I mean, it's weird, 634 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,790 but it's easy. activity. pub is one of these things where it's 635 00:39:23,790 --> 00:39:27,630 got this weird learning curve to it. Where when you first start 636 00:39:27,630 --> 00:39:32,160 reading about it, it seems easy. And then you start looking. You 637 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,340 read the spec, and the spec is like, Oh, this makes sense. And 638 00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:38,280 then you start looking at it in practice, and you're like, what 639 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,030 is this thing doing? Like, what, what's happening here? But then 640 00:39:42,030 --> 00:39:45,570 as soon as you actually put some code in there, and see how it 641 00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:48,270 responds, you're like, oh, it is as easy as I thought it was. 642 00:39:48,570 --> 00:39:50,670 It's just just weird. Like, I don't know, it's a strange 643 00:39:50,670 --> 00:39:54,510 protocol. So to help that mastodon like, you know, 644 00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:59,280 does it differently, does it differently. Yeah. Well, the 645 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,960 reason I asked Because I'm I'm kind of like semi committed to 646 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,340 this El Salvador trip 647 00:40:06,420 --> 00:40:08,940 for the I'm sorry you're going right 648 00:40:08,970 --> 00:40:14,850 well you know it's yeah but I'm a little concerned because i 649 00:40:14,850 --> 00:40:21,030 don't know if i mean I'll go but will the any aircraft go because 650 00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:26,700 this is November I think 15th through 18th which works 651 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,800 perfectly because it's during the week and I would only have 652 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:34,890 to do one show on the think the 18th from there and then I could 653 00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:39,840 fly back well no, I probably have to do two shows a Thursday 654 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,610 no agenda and this show friday so it leaves Saturday which I 655 00:40:44,610 --> 00:40:49,890 would have left anyway. But that'll be the 19th bam. All 656 00:40:49,890 --> 00:40:55,620 vaccine mandates I think are solid by November 18. And 657 00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:58,230 although and you know and American is what I would prefer 658 00:40:58,230 --> 00:41:01,890 to fly and that's they're already canceling flights left 659 00:41:01,890 --> 00:41:02,580 and right from 660 00:41:02,910 --> 00:41:04,230 veiling Yeah, yeah. 661 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:04,980 So 662 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,650 this is the flight pilot the pilot strike there's not really 663 00:41:10,650 --> 00:41:12,390 a pilot strike we know you 664 00:41:13,350 --> 00:41:15,960 I'm not too worried about sitting around to get there but 665 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:21,240 what if I can't get back? Yep, that's a whole places to be 666 00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:24,660 stuck. I just don't want to be stuck in El Salvador. Now I 667 00:41:24,660 --> 00:41:31,350 would be stuck there with Roy I think Roy and I would paint the 668 00:41:31,350 --> 00:41:31,890 towel 669 00:41:32,310 --> 00:41:34,950 I think Roy knows how to have a good time I know Salvador I'm 670 00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:35,130 just 671 00:41:36,210 --> 00:41:38,460 he's already selected the hotel This is where we're staying This 672 00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:39,480 is this way want to be 673 00:41:39,810 --> 00:41:43,530 okay favorite part my favorite part of that Reuter of the Miami 674 00:41:43,530 --> 00:41:49,320 trip with Roy was that he some he's his credit card got 675 00:41:49,350 --> 00:41:52,860 declined Oh yeah. International transaction for the Uber so then 676 00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:55,980 he gets on it but he gets on breeze Yeah, and does bit 677 00:41:55,980 --> 00:42:00,360 refill. Yeah and gets an Uber card an Uber car through bit 678 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,390 refill and has an Uber within like 10 minutes Yeah, I was like 679 00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:04,620 man Yeah, that 680 00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:08,370 was slick and ever since that time I have a severe sufficient 681 00:42:08,370 --> 00:42:14,190 stack of websites on my breeze wallet. But yeah, I saw that one 682 00:42:14,190 --> 00:42:17,430 function you know this I got several wallets and you know all 683 00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:21,990 kinds of stuff that they can do. But yeah, breezes distilled 684 00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:25,170 superduper real wallet and it really is your wallet you know 685 00:42:25,170 --> 00:42:27,270 it's noncustodial try 686 00:42:27,690 --> 00:42:30,780 really I think still blows my mind how it how it's a full lnd 687 00:42:30,780 --> 00:42:33,930 note on a on a phone. Yeah, that's so crazy, man. 688 00:42:34,409 --> 00:42:37,439 Yeah, they're doing brilliant. Yeah, but I think they're doing 689 00:42:37,439 --> 00:42:40,469 all kinds of stuff on the back end and they've got you know, 690 00:42:40,469 --> 00:42:43,529 there's always I mean, I had a nice chat with Roy and he caught 691 00:42:43,529 --> 00:42:46,439 me up on the latest gossip what's happened and what's going 692 00:42:46,439 --> 00:42:49,949 on in in lightning labs land and you know, there's so many 693 00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:53,099 different things and people and it's just you know, there's 694 00:42:53,099 --> 00:42:55,829 always something happening. So yeah, you know, the fact that 695 00:42:55,829 --> 00:43:01,049 this this conference in El Salvador is a lightning specific 696 00:43:01,049 --> 00:43:03,689 conference. I think that's good. And he said it would get me on a 697 00:43:03,689 --> 00:43:07,979 panel so I want to be on Roy's panel I chat Yeah, we chat some 698 00:43:07,979 --> 00:43:10,469 stuff it'd be fun I'm really want to like really wish I need 699 00:43:10,469 --> 00:43:13,589 it. posh is gonna be there and hold on. We see 700 00:43:14,220 --> 00:43:17,100 what's cool. Yeah, Neda that's it'd be great to shake her hand 701 00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:17,910 to see her in person. 702 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:25,020 Yeah. What's it called again? The lightning summit or adopting 703 00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:29,640 Bitcoin? adopting Bitcoin lightning summit. 2021. 704 00:43:30,030 --> 00:43:34,650 Speakers? Okay, who do we have? I need a posh we know her. Who 705 00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:35,670 else is going to be there? 706 00:43:37,020 --> 00:43:38,310 Who are the speakers? Yeah, 707 00:43:38,370 --> 00:43:41,550 I'm looking Christian. rotes all he's raspy Blitz guy. Let me 708 00:43:41,550 --> 00:43:48,480 look at him. Since I'm running my family finances. I don't know 709 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:53,610 if Ryan's Oh, you know, I think a lot of the American execs are 710 00:43:53,610 --> 00:43:57,030 not going because they're all afraid for security reasons. 711 00:43:57,750 --> 00:44:03,690 Oh, like executive kidnapping. Whatever. What happens if you 712 00:44:03,690 --> 00:44:06,780 get kidnapped? Do we have key man insurance on you? 713 00:44:07,050 --> 00:44:11,520 Do you have the keys? Forget key man insurance. You got all the 714 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,480 passwords? You have most of the passwords I think to everything. 715 00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:18,030 Oh Paulie toys gonna be there they go. 716 00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:21,180 Oh, good. Yeah, good. Yeah, they you know, things just redid 717 00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:25,140 their UI. I haven't seen it yet. It's on the it's on the beta. 718 00:44:25,590 --> 00:44:28,620 Are they using? Are they still using l&d? Are they using see 719 00:44:28,620 --> 00:44:33,030 lightning? Steven laverra Stefan lavera is going to be there. I 720 00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:33,240 would 721 00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:36,480 like I would like to meet him one day. I think he's a really 722 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:36,930 good guy. 723 00:44:37,139 --> 00:44:39,419 Yeah, I wish I wish we could go together. 724 00:44:39,989 --> 00:44:43,349 Yeah, I really wish I could go I've got I've got to be Yeah. 725 00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:47,310 Okay. Here's the Here's the exchange. Here's the exchange to 726 00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:52,020 Adam de El Salvador are the great trip went 15 through 18. 727 00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:56,910 Not too bad. I'm leaving on the 21st for a couple days. Well, 728 00:44:56,910 --> 00:45:00,360 it's it's not then you can cook go before then. And then I 729 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,690 thought oh wait Dave has a job oh yeah that's right 730 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,010 your take days off that was your take away you have 731 00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:11,460 I didn't mean it to sound like that oh shit you have a job I'm 732 00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:13,050 what I'm an idiot I'm so sorry 733 00:45:13,830 --> 00:45:16,950 that's right yeah cuz he called vacation yeah 734 00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:20,700 yeah you're really because that's something I'm not very 735 00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:25,290 familiar with yeah I got one one year maybe a one week a year or 736 00:45:25,290 --> 00:45:27,750 something but I'm not complaining not complaining at 737 00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:35,010 all Brian of London man whatever everywhere what but what a great 738 00:45:35,010 --> 00:45:40,050 job he did explaining pod ping on the pod line podcast 739 00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:44,220 they did yeah he did did you did you listen to the after party? 740 00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:52,770 Yes I did I just want to say here that I should probably go 741 00:45:52,770 --> 00:45:55,890 back and look and listen to it but I thought what I said about 742 00:45:56,820 --> 00:46:00,450 it was like oh you like this guy off you did you didn't give him 743 00:46:00,450 --> 00:46:03,030 this? What was it that Dennis What's his name? 744 00:46:03,330 --> 00:46:04,410 Now Chris Chris. 745 00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:11,160 Chris Yeah Chris. Yeah, I'm horrible I'm horrible. Chris I 746 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,490 was I was relating my perspective from then the way it 747 00:46:14,490 --> 00:46:18,210 was perceived then I think I even said What did I know? So 748 00:46:18,210 --> 00:46:22,680 I'm not trying to disparage anybody. Yeah, but maybe it came 749 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,020 out that maybe I was I don't know but I didn't mean to 750 00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:28,290 disparage anybody I just that's what I remembered it and just 751 00:46:28,290 --> 00:46:34,620 admit it while I was Yes, I'm gonna go done. Really? 752 00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:36,930 I try not to go No, No, I'm just kidding. 753 00:46:36,989 --> 00:46:42,329 And then who did this new pod ping stats thing? you seen that? 754 00:46:42,509 --> 00:46:45,569 Yeah, it's the new pod ping watcher. 755 00:46:46,770 --> 00:46:49,020 Somewhere you're talking about the theory tonight what Ryan has 756 00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:52,500 put together where it shows the grid like the charts or are you 757 00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:58,800 talking about the pod track data of like who the new episode data 758 00:46:59,340 --> 00:47:03,330 no this is this is watch it's just it appears to be a new it's 759 00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:07,860 a new pod ping watcher. I don't know that I've seen this almost 760 00:47:07,860 --> 00:47:11,010 like new post is it just from today? I think yesterday I 761 00:47:11,010 --> 00:47:13,650 picked it up it was someone posted at Haas and let me see 762 00:47:15,060 --> 00:47:18,480 I'll be able to find this real quick because I read I boosted I 763 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:25,050 can find a boost. seeking truth just threw together pod ping 764 00:47:25,050 --> 00:47:29,220 podcast player as a shiny app. Not much of a player just the 765 00:47:29,220 --> 00:47:32,220 list of all feed URLs but it's just it's a different pod ping 766 00:47:32,220 --> 00:47:34,890 watcher but it has a couple different features with a search 767 00:47:34,890 --> 00:47:39,000 and some other things and I missed it I kind of like I just 768 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,510 sit there and I'd like seeing that stuff refresh before my 769 00:47:42,510 --> 00:47:43,320 very eyes 770 00:47:44,340 --> 00:47:48,660 Oh man I missed a lot of missed a lot of posts on the on the 771 00:47:48,660 --> 00:47:49,410 podcast index 772 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,680 yeah you got to go to the local feed from time to time just to 773 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,120 pick up the some of the stuff 774 00:47:56,550 --> 00:47:57,180 that late 775 00:47:57,270 --> 00:48:04,200 well did you see the booster gram was the title for this just 776 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,120 the booster gram names that we have here. We have the numbers 777 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:15,240 for this together. Carry aren't I think that he put this 778 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:21,750 together? Yeah, so he has 200 yeah 200 the Mendoza line boost 779 00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:26,610 300 the Spartan boost 315 to Caesar boost for 20 a stoner 780 00:48:26,610 --> 00:48:33,180 boost 500 Indy boost 6668 and boost 755 the Hank Aaron boost 781 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:40,590 958 Usain Bolt boost 1004 trucker boost 1034 Riot boost 782 00:48:40,590 --> 00:48:46,080 1066 A Norman boost Let's see some of the others here. 1776 783 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,070 and liberty boost the prints boost of course. 1999 Here's 784 00:48:50,070 --> 00:48:52,350 your rush boost at 2112 Oh 785 00:48:52,349 --> 00:48:52,949 yeah, baby. 786 00:48:52,980 --> 00:48:58,110 We got the Van Halen 5150 we got the Mile High 52 at the high 787 00:48:58,110 --> 00:49:04,440 five. High five is good the boob boost 808 the Usher boost which 788 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:09,240 is disgusting 8701 the Wilt Chamberlain which is 10k 789 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:10,950 less like the chicks are 790 00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:14,700 okay I get it Beverly Hills which is 90210 the Google which 791 00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:21,000 is 376606. And then my favorite the Jenny boost which is 8675309 792 00:49:24,030 --> 00:49:28,470 you got to be kind of old to get that one. But that's I love 793 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,620 Google 13766061 isn't isn't 794 00:49:31,620 --> 00:49:33,900 that the Google the Google number? 795 00:49:35,820 --> 00:49:37,050 I don't know what it 796 00:49:37,530 --> 00:49:40,320 is backwards. g OGGLE. 797 00:49:40,949 --> 00:49:44,069 Oh, Okay, I got it. Okay. Okay, so yeah, that should be like 798 00:49:44,099 --> 00:49:48,059 yes. 6000 I think there's a mess. I think oh, they 799 00:49:48,060 --> 00:49:50,460 messed it up. It should be 606. Yeah, 800 00:49:50,489 --> 00:49:51,779 yeah. 376. 801 00:49:51,929 --> 00:49:53,879 denied, denied, denied. 802 00:49:54,330 --> 00:49:55,980 This. This chart has a bug. 803 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,870 bombshell. It's a bug. 804 00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:59,820 Boom. Pull Request. 805 00:49:59,850 --> 00:50:01,950 You Yeah, pull request on this list, please. 806 00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:09,390 The speaking of speaking of data, did you see the stuff 807 00:50:09,390 --> 00:50:13,590 about indie, indie apps losing market share? Okay. 808 00:50:14,370 --> 00:50:17,940 I can't look at this. Because the minute someone says indie 809 00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:22,470 apps, I'm already mad. And I lose all sense of I can't think 810 00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:25,950 straight. I'm mad. I'm like, shut up. This is not this is not 811 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:31,260 indie podcast, it blow me. It makes me mad. And I can't think 812 00:50:31,260 --> 00:50:31,830 straight. 813 00:50:32,820 --> 00:50:36,690 But also, I can't hear you say shut up without while you're 814 00:50:36,690 --> 00:50:37,200 roughing 815 00:50:43,590 --> 00:50:49,320 out Yeah, no. I know. I know what I mean. So me and James in 816 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,800 Spurlock went back and forth about this a little bit. And I 817 00:50:52,800 --> 00:51:00,870 don't think, you know, well, let me just say this. Ah, I don't 818 00:51:00,870 --> 00:51:05,520 want this to be true. So I mean, I'm admitting my bias here. I 819 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,030 don't want this. I don't want. I mean, I don't want this data to 820 00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:15,390 be accurate. So that doesn't mean it's not. But I guess what 821 00:51:15,390 --> 00:51:19,680 I would be what I would say is that, for any kind of data like 822 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,610 this, it's it's never going to tell the whole picture. And I 823 00:51:23,610 --> 00:51:26,370 don't think I don't think James would be saying that anyway. I 824 00:51:26,370 --> 00:51:32,160 don't think he would say that it does. I guess this is, 825 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,520 regardless of who of how much of the industry it represents. And 826 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:41,760 that kind of thing. The idea that, that we could no, and like 827 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,010 I said, I'm not saying that this is what James is saying. This is 828 00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:47,760 just what I'm saying. Because I guess what bothers me about data 829 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,600 like this going out, is that it? No matter how many qualifiers 830 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,480 you put on it, some people are going to look at it and say, 831 00:51:54,480 --> 00:52:00,930 okay, that's the whole story. And, and I hate that, because 832 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,670 it's really not I mean, like this really could is is could is 833 00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:10,290 just saying one piece of of the entire fragmented, open RSS 834 00:52:10,290 --> 00:52:14,250 ecosystem and is fragmented in a good way. So if you're only 835 00:52:14,250 --> 00:52:18,630 looking at this one piece, you're never going to get an 836 00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:23,850 accurate picture of what's what's actually going on. And if 837 00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:29,250 you look at it, so for instance, what I think that's what 838 00:52:29,250 --> 00:52:32,580 Spurlock pulled together was great, because it shows I'm not 839 00:52:32,580 --> 00:52:35,760 going to even consider the how much of a percentage of the 840 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,060 overall episodes it was that forever. He when he pulled 841 00:52:39,060 --> 00:52:43,290 together was all the new episodes in September, if you 842 00:52:43,290 --> 00:52:48,780 look at them, how many of them redirected through pod track. So 843 00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:53,040 how many of them had a redirect on an enclosure that had pod 844 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,090 tracks somewhere in the redirect chain? And so he shows that 845 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:05,130 megaphone at 20% of those redirects. So if you look at the 846 00:53:05,130 --> 00:53:11,130 top, it's megaphone at roughly 20% Omni studio at 15% spreaker, 847 00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:16,170 at fifth 14%, SoundCloud at 7%. And so then it finishes out with 848 00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:20,490 Knox future Lipson, aka my simple cast in our 19. So that's 849 00:53:20,490 --> 00:53:26,550 the top 10. That represents almost all of it. If you look at 850 00:53:26,550 --> 00:53:30,150 that data, which is what you miss is the fact that let me 851 00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:34,380 There's hardly anybody in there in the top 10 of hosts using 852 00:53:34,380 --> 00:53:38,640 conntrack have known big hosts like buzzsprout, blueberry, 853 00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:43,230 those guys, they're really not even represented much in there. 854 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,460 So to me what this data looks, what this data looks like to me 855 00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:55,920 is these are shows that are mostly using pod track are shows 856 00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,930 that really, these are podcast consultant shows, but let me try 857 00:54:00,930 --> 00:54:04,560 to put it that way. these are these are shows that want to 858 00:54:05,070 --> 00:54:09,480 highly track their audience for advertising for aggressive 859 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:15,450 advertising. But they're not huge ones in the sense that this 860 00:54:15,450 --> 00:54:19,920 isn't like this is a no it was just that this is this is no 861 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,390 agenda. It's not accidental tech. It's not. There's 862 00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:29,580 significant traffic out there. That is being not included in 863 00:54:29,580 --> 00:54:30,090 this data. 864 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:36,900 I was surprised to learn that the top 1% of all podcasts do 865 00:54:37,110 --> 00:54:42,510 over 35,000 downloads per episode. Holy crap, that's 866 00:54:42,510 --> 00:54:44,940 nothing compared to what no agenda pushes. 867 00:54:45,870 --> 00:54:49,710 No, yo, y'all are owner. The best we can figure out is y'all 868 00:54:49,710 --> 00:54:53,070 are pushing a million downloads a week but 869 00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:56,670 but hit but now I'm confused. Because we're talking about two 870 00:54:56,670 --> 00:54:59,490 different things. The measurements that were done, the 871 00:54:59,490 --> 00:55:04,950 way I understood For the survey, were done by utilizing pod track 872 00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:09,390 tracking correct. That's that's how the data was created. Okay. 873 00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:16,050 I don't see how that's relevant to which app was being used, and 874 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:24,150 what I think it is. But let me explain why. We received from an 875 00:55:24,180 --> 00:55:33,480 indie app 500,000 satoshis. Last week 300 over $300 today from 876 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,980 one app, which app delivered that to any of these so called 877 00:55:37,980 --> 00:55:42,540 consultants using pod track for one show? Do you understand my 878 00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:46,050 point it's not relevant. This is not that's that's what I'm 879 00:55:46,050 --> 00:55:49,830 trying to say. It's to me personally, it's, I don't care. 880 00:55:50,220 --> 00:55:55,200 I'm seeing that I don't care if it's only 1000 people 1000 shows 881 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,520 right now we have 2300 I think value for value enabled podcast, 882 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,690 those podcasts are going to bring more value to themselves 883 00:56:03,690 --> 00:56:09,420 and the ecosystem they're using then a mult, a multi multiple 884 00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:14,070 factor of all the other so called non indie podcast apps. I 885 00:56:14,070 --> 00:56:19,980 just don't understand the relevance The future is not who 886 00:56:19,980 --> 00:56:24,300 has the biggest podcast The future is who is who can utilize 887 00:56:24,540 --> 00:56:29,190 the podcasting tools that we're developing to create a better 888 00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:31,920 more valuable network for themselves between their 889 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,680 listeners and our audience whatever you want to call it 890 00:56:34,770 --> 00:56:39,510 producers and and the podcast it's no it's not interesting to 891 00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:42,660 be on you know that more people on Apple are using it, there's 892 00:56:42,660 --> 00:56:46,590 no benefit that's that's, it's like okay, whatever, if people 893 00:56:46,590 --> 00:56:49,200 are listening and they care about you when you say please 894 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,620 use one of these 10 other apps because that's going to keep it 895 00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:57,060 going they'll switch but anything else is just Oh okay, 896 00:56:57,390 --> 00:57:00,630 whatever if if these apps aren't making money for the developers 897 00:57:00,630 --> 00:57:03,390 in the end the podcast is using them then yeah, they'll go away 898 00:57:03,570 --> 00:57:07,440 but I see the opposite happening I see as consistent increase 899 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,460 every value for value podcast that is added is money in the 900 00:57:11,460 --> 00:57:15,870 bank for people guaranteed from day one the minute you try it 901 00:57:15,870 --> 00:57:16,230 out 902 00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:22,710 Yeah, I see what you're you you're you're making that that 903 00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:29,160 broader sort of long term of course argument you know and and 904 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:35,730 i agree 100% with that with with that. I also think that what 905 00:57:35,730 --> 00:57:44,940 this what this data shows to me is that a show have a podcast 906 00:57:44,940 --> 00:57:51,120 that's going to use pod track is probably also a show that is 907 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:58,350 going to be motivated by getting by attracting by going to the 908 00:57:58,350 --> 00:57:59,460 biggest platforms 909 00:58:01,230 --> 00:58:04,260 I think that's very fair to say these are people who care about 910 00:58:04,260 --> 00:58:08,190 being the top 10 list and have people game yes the comments and 911 00:58:08,190 --> 00:58:11,220 everything and please do that. Yeah, of course. Of course. That 912 00:58:11,220 --> 00:58:15,930 is the that is now let me say it right now. That's the YouTube 913 00:58:15,930 --> 00:58:20,070 game. And the YouTube game only works when you have algorithms. 914 00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:24,150 So you know so the where do they where are they trying to game it 915 00:58:24,180 --> 00:58:27,630 the algorithms over to iTunes or you know the Spotify list or 916 00:58:27,630 --> 00:58:30,840 whatever that's so Okay, yeah, that's fine that to me that's 917 00:58:31,110 --> 00:58:34,680 podcasting. 1.0 that's how we learn to do with the first one 918 00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:38,970 way around I'm like that's why when I the minute I hear us and 919 00:58:38,970 --> 00:58:42,960 I'm saying collectively us being put into indie podcasters or 920 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,890 indie podcast apps whoever wherever that sources from that 921 00:58:46,890 --> 00:58:49,470 coming It's just like I'm shutting you off because it's 922 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:54,090 not productive not that I don't appreciate people looking at it 923 00:58:54,300 --> 00:58:59,340 and understanding the overall industry but man i'm i'm pretty 924 00:58:59,340 --> 00:59:02,400 skeptical about you know everything I'm reading now 925 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,300 particularly Spotify stuff and Apple yeah maybe they're gaining 926 00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:10,260 maybe they're not but they don't care. So they don't care over 927 00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:14,340 here podcast index we care we're gonna care to build new things 928 00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:18,000 and make better stuff they don't care so whatever stop writing 929 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:18,840 about them. 930 00:59:19,350 --> 00:59:21,690 I don't think Spotify cares either go home of course they 931 00:59:21,690 --> 00:59:25,560 don't care No, here's my late here's my latest thinking on 932 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,510 this because somebody said the other day on the index the 933 00:59:30,510 --> 00:59:34,350 social on the mastodon that they were surprised at how easy 934 00:59:34,860 --> 00:59:40,830 anchor made it to leave to export their feed data out. And 935 00:59:40,860 --> 00:59:43,740 you know, thought it kind of caught me off guard. I was like, 936 00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:47,820 you know that. That's, that is interesting. They've already 937 00:59:47,820 --> 00:59:52,290 said that they're going to shut off RSS feeds for new anchor. 938 00:59:53,340 --> 00:59:54,510 New RSS feeds, 939 00:59:54,570 --> 00:59:57,540 but not enable them would be the technically correct way 940 00:59:57,780 --> 01:00:03,390 to opt in. opt in 90% of the anchor catalogue is garbage. We 941 01:00:03,390 --> 01:00:10,320 all know that. I think that they can't wait to get out of the RSS 942 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,600 game. I think they they are looking to close the door on 943 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,170 RSS. And they just want to get out of that game altogether 944 01:00:19,170 --> 01:00:22,950 because they understand for them. It's not a moneymaker. 945 01:00:23,610 --> 01:00:27,090 It's a it's a call center for them. I mean, ng anchor hat 946 01:00:27,090 --> 01:00:34,590 cannot be making any money. No. And so, you know, I was thinking 947 01:00:34,590 --> 01:00:38,520 about that. When I read that was sort of the backdrop of reading 948 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,280 this this wired article that Spotify is breaking podcasts. I 949 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,000 don't know if you read that. 950 01:00:42,030 --> 01:00:46,350 Of course I did. Of course, I am just amazed by the things that 951 01:00:46,350 --> 01:00:47,880 that people think and are saying, 952 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:54,840 did they This was my favorite part of the article says. Then 953 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,240 along came Spotify. Stoller argues that the company is 954 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,610 trying to pull off the same power grab, as Google and 955 01:00:59,610 --> 01:01:02,610 Facebook, take control of the advertising and distribution 956 01:01:02,610 --> 01:01:05,790 process, and control and monetize the entire ecosystem 957 01:01:05,790 --> 01:01:09,540 through targeted advertising. a process known as streaming ad 958 01:01:09,540 --> 01:01:14,910 insertion, this grab would destroy the current open system, 959 01:01:14,940 --> 01:01:17,970 because the only viable way to get listeners and money would be 960 01:01:17,970 --> 01:01:18,930 through Spotify. 961 01:01:19,980 --> 01:01:21,090 Yep. Well, 962 01:01:21,180 --> 01:01:23,490 I'd like to, I'd like to do Yes, I'd like 963 01:01:23,490 --> 01:01:28,680 to different part. closed loops, referring to what you just said, 964 01:01:28,830 --> 01:01:31,740 mixed with a situation where the primary stakeholder is an 965 01:01:31,740 --> 01:01:35,460 advertiser creates a race to the bottom, which is terrible for 966 01:01:35,460 --> 01:01:38,460 the consumer and for creativity more generally, when the 967 01:01:38,460 --> 01:01:42,330 advertiser is a stakeholder, a stakeholder, how do you extract 968 01:01:42,330 --> 01:01:45,720 value from the big money you're spending? Well, you go toward 969 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,170 tried and true content, which is mostly but not entirely true 970 01:01:49,170 --> 01:01:53,160 crime and celebrity. And that's it, you reduce creativity. 971 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,700 That's why I've always said you cannot monetize the network. 972 01:01:56,730 --> 01:01:59,850 That's why I left my own company. What I was doing was 973 01:01:59,850 --> 01:02:03,570 building NASCAR's and I had to put all the logos over the 974 01:02:03,570 --> 01:02:09,960 windscreen Thank you. When I left that's why I said I was 975 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:14,790 leaving they like because they will appreciate you have to be 976 01:02:14,790 --> 01:02:19,020 brand safe and and that's where the left that's where all the 977 01:02:19,020 --> 01:02:22,020 leverage comes from with with the canceled culture. It's a 978 01:02:22,020 --> 01:02:25,890 sick, sick, sick ecosystem. It doesn't work. 979 01:02:27,540 --> 01:02:31,620 Play. There's a clip in here and I think I misspelled is Hassan 980 01:02:31,620 --> 01:02:33,690 is supposed to be Hassan. Hassan 981 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:38,160 Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah, good 982 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,100 for Okay, thing that I found very interesting since I started 983 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,540 podcasting is when I tell people that I do it, one of like, the 984 01:02:45,540 --> 01:02:49,890 first things they ask me is, are you making any money? How are 985 01:02:49,890 --> 01:02:54,240 you making money? Are you monetizing it? And I don't know 986 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,680 if it's because it's linked to the career that I had before. 987 01:02:59,220 --> 01:03:03,060 But I find it very interesting that people immediately jump on, 988 01:03:03,330 --> 01:03:06,870 are you earning any money, and they can't understand why I 989 01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:09,840 would just do it as a hobby and just want to create free content 990 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:15,000 for entertainment for people to listen to. Nobody asked golfers 991 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,350 who spend 6070 pound a month on their golf membership with their 992 01:03:19,350 --> 01:03:23,250 two 300 pound golf clubs who go and spend four or five hours 993 01:03:23,250 --> 01:03:27,450 every weekend playing golf. Nobody says to them, we are 994 01:03:27,450 --> 01:03:29,820 spending all this money playing golf, how are you monetizing it? 995 01:03:30,030 --> 01:03:33,150 How are you making money from it? Or people that mountain bike 996 01:03:33,150 --> 01:03:36,000 who spend hundreds on mountain bikes or photography? I guess 997 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,370 maybe people might be able to monetize photography, but you 998 01:03:38,370 --> 01:03:40,410 get my gist. If these are hobbies that people do, they 999 01:03:40,410 --> 01:03:42,450 spend significant amounts of money on it, and they get 1000 01:03:42,450 --> 01:03:45,270 nothing back from it financially. And they're not 1001 01:03:45,270 --> 01:03:48,420 spending anywhere near 6070 pound for golf. It's relatively 1002 01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:51,870 cheap to podcast. But I find it very interesting that people 1003 01:03:51,870 --> 01:03:54,330 immediately jump on how are you monetizing this? How you doing 1004 01:03:54,330 --> 01:03:57,150 it? And I don't know if that's just because within the podcast 1005 01:03:57,150 --> 01:04:01,440 community, there's a lot of people who have a podcast as a 1006 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,640 sales funnel for their business. And so monetization is very 1007 01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:08,850 important to them. I've actually found it quite a struggle to 1008 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,940 chat with other people within the podcasting community who 1009 01:04:11,940 --> 01:04:15,660 just do it for entertainment, who just do it for fun, and who 1010 01:04:15,690 --> 01:04:20,130 aren't concerned about monetizing that are operating at 1011 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:24,120 the kind of scale that I am, which I just find very, I find 1012 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:24,930 very interesting. 1013 01:04:25,830 --> 01:04:29,850 Yeah, I understand. I think this was the best interview that 1014 01:04:29,850 --> 01:04:33,900 they've ever done. Who would who was this? This was on pod land 1015 01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:36,630 yesterday. Yeah. But was that they interviewed her Her name 1016 01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:40,170 was Genevieve Hassan, aka Jen. Yes. Genevieve I loved every bit 1017 01:04:40,170 --> 01:04:45,240 of this interview. Because this is a this is a woman who is 1018 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,370 literally losing money on her podcast. But then now she's 1019 01:04:50,370 --> 01:04:54,090 gotten her her podcast is now featured on Virgin Atlantic. 1020 01:04:54,990 --> 01:04:58,110 Right, right, right, right. Right, right. And she did it. 1021 01:04:58,170 --> 01:05:02,340 She's She's in it and purely for the hobby purely for the love of 1022 01:05:02,340 --> 01:05:09,090 doing it. And this perfectly illustrates not just this 1023 01:05:09,090 --> 01:05:12,090 perfectly illustrates a lot of things. But to me, it 1024 01:05:12,090 --> 01:05:15,690 illustrates number one, the most importantly, why the podcast 1025 01:05:15,690 --> 01:05:19,380 industry is different from so much. It's almost unique in this 1026 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:25,980 in this aspect 40 we know that 47% of people roughly, podcast 1027 01:05:25,980 --> 01:05:28,380 just for the love of doing it. They know they don't care about 1028 01:05:28,380 --> 01:05:33,390 making money. It's just purely the love of being able to 1029 01:05:33,390 --> 01:05:40,530 broadcast themselves freely over the internet for other people to 1030 01:05:40,530 --> 01:05:46,590 hear. It gives them enjoyment. I love it. I mean, so think of 1031 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,340 literally, I don't can't think of another industry, where 1032 01:05:50,340 --> 01:05:54,630 literally half of the entire participants in the industry 1033 01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:00,600 don't care about making money. And the other half only cares 1034 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:05,610 about making money or not only but is consumed with the idea of 1035 01:06:05,610 --> 01:06:11,610 making money. That is a sort of inherently schizophrenic 1036 01:06:11,610 --> 01:06:15,810 industry when it when it comes to a business plan. But from a 1037 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,970 human freedom aspect, 1038 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,400 what he said, is that any different from wonderful, is it 1039 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,890 any different from the music industry. There are a lot of 1040 01:06:25,890 --> 01:06:28,860 musicians who just play because they like playing. 1041 01:06:29,730 --> 01:06:34,050 I guess it's different to me in my mind, because when you go out 1042 01:06:34,050 --> 01:06:39,420 there, they you can't tell a difference. Like if I listened 1043 01:06:39,420 --> 01:06:45,690 to Genovese podcast, and then I listened to Dax Shepard, you 1044 01:06:45,690 --> 01:06:49,530 can't tell that there's any debt, one of them is making a 1045 01:06:49,530 --> 01:06:52,500 few million dollars a year and the other one makes nothing 1046 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,250 isn't that great. 1047 01:06:53,580 --> 01:06:57,210 I love that. They're both on the same screen, and I can click and 1048 01:06:57,210 --> 01:07:00,540 listen to either one of them with one click. And that's not 1049 01:07:00,540 --> 01:07:04,890 really the case for music so much. I mean, the it is a little 1050 01:07:04,890 --> 01:07:09,060 bit true if you taken Spotify, but historically speaking, this 1051 01:07:09,060 --> 01:07:13,800 is to me uniquely a podcasting thing, but that's 1052 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:21,420 why I believe that value for value is not a monetization 1053 01:07:21,450 --> 01:07:26,460 model. It's something else, it's building a connection with the 1054 01:07:26,460 --> 01:07:31,890 people on the other end. You know, it's it's and where we are 1055 01:07:31,890 --> 01:07:36,750 now, as a group developing this feedback loop into something 1056 01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:42,300 that's going to it's going to be really important. I can feel in 1057 01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:48,810 my bones how big this is going to be. And so you can still be a 1058 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:53,460 I love what I do. I love this show I love and seriously, I 1059 01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:58,530 really look forward to it. Like I get to do the show. And I 1060 01:07:58,530 --> 01:08:02,550 don't have to worry about a single thing other than holding 1061 01:08:02,550 --> 01:08:06,330 myself accountable to people who are listening. Who will who hold 1062 01:08:06,330 --> 01:08:11,670 me accountable. And you of course, obviously that's it, but 1063 01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:17,280 then to get something in return that just makes that just makes 1064 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,880 it an entire beautiful human experience. 1065 01:08:22,980 --> 01:08:27,960 I love how this draws this has to drive big tech crazy. 1066 01:08:29,190 --> 01:08:31,860 Well, they've been trying to steal it from us for you know, 1067 01:08:31,890 --> 01:08:33,210 20 years. So yeah, 1068 01:08:33,239 --> 01:08:35,939 yeah. Yeah, I mean it dry. It drives me crazy. It's such a 1069 01:08:35,939 --> 01:08:40,769 beautiful expression. podcasting is such a beautiful expression 1070 01:08:40,769 --> 01:08:47,669 of human action and freedom of association. It's it's a thing 1071 01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:53,609 that you know, really it does, it does from a media standpoint, 1072 01:08:53,849 --> 01:08:57,119 what Bitcoin does, from a financial standpoint. 1073 01:08:57,330 --> 01:09:02,670 And then we had this really interesting hybrid pop up which 1074 01:09:02,670 --> 01:09:06,360 was another very interesting human experience between people 1075 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,530 we we both know all of them we don't know where they live we 1076 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,770 probably don't really know their real names they have names like 1077 01:09:13,950 --> 01:09:20,760 blueberry and Thunder Thunder Road and sir Spencer and and i 1078 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,990 think one or two of them I only know by their their node ID and 1079 01:09:24,990 --> 01:09:29,940 now we have put together a financial relationship based on 1080 01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:35,490 trust and cooperation. It should I play this jingle because I 1081 01:09:35,490 --> 01:09:36,810 presume that's what this is for. 1082 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:44,340 Yeah. And get down down down and 1083 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,680 have fun five, podcast Ring of Fire. 1084 01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:59,970 So Abel Kirby, so this label Kirby's been doing great stuff. 1085 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,900 For the years, explained the ring of fire? 1086 01:10:05,250 --> 01:10:07,500 Oh, no, I think you should explain to me Well, this was new 1087 01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:08,760 to me as well, better than 1088 01:10:09,060 --> 01:10:14,970 it was new to me as well, the idea is, you create a ring. So a 1089 01:10:14,970 --> 01:10:19,800 ring of channels between, we have six, between six people 1090 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,590 have a node and these happen to be all podcasters who have 1091 01:10:22,590 --> 01:10:25,470 nodes, and you take a significant amount, what do we 1092 01:10:25,470 --> 01:10:30,150 do 500,000 sets was that we needed and so each open a 1093 01:10:30,150 --> 01:10:34,200 channel to the next person in the ring. And once we figured 1094 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:38,550 out, you know, which was a right hand in our left hand, Dave, 1095 01:10:39,570 --> 01:10:41,700 hey, you opened in the wrong direction? 1096 01:10:42,570 --> 01:10:44,130 No, I opened a private channel. 1097 01:10:45,450 --> 01:10:48,030 That's right, you open a private channel. Okay, that that can 1098 01:10:48,030 --> 01:10:52,800 happen that can happen. Once we had that all figured out, and 1099 01:10:52,890 --> 01:10:58,980 then did Abel who pushed all the SATs through? Who started that? 1100 01:10:59,010 --> 01:11:00,480 Oh, was that sir Spencer? 1101 01:11:00,510 --> 01:11:03,600 I think it was it was my sir Spencer. And Tony, he pushes it 1102 01:11:03,660 --> 01:11:07,350 through routing through all of these nodes. So everybody winds 1103 01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:13,020 up with a almost perfectly balanced 500,000. Satoshi no 1104 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,860 channel, which, by definition, because of all the other 1105 01:11:16,860 --> 01:11:20,070 connections we have individually, really makes us a 1106 01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:25,770 great place for, for traffic to flow through. And I guess, you 1107 01:11:25,770 --> 01:11:31,020 know, maybe in 10, one planning, do you think we'll make money on 1108 01:11:31,020 --> 01:11:35,760 fees on forwarding fees? Or is it? I mean, just having great 1109 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,570 liquidity, and I like I like doing it? I don't know what to 1110 01:11:39,570 --> 01:11:40,800 do with it. Like, yeah, we 1111 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,680 got a ring of fire. Okay, yeah, yay, go ring. 1112 01:11:44,580 --> 01:11:46,560 It doesn't mean you always have liquidity. 1113 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:52,740 Well, and I think that we, we're all well connected nodes. You 1114 01:11:52,740 --> 01:11:56,580 know, we've all got sort of feel a fingers going off the Ring of 1115 01:11:56,580 --> 01:12:00,060 Fire owed to other nodes, I think there's a good chance that 1116 01:12:00,060 --> 01:12:03,030 we'll get and we'll get forward and go in through us. You know, 1117 01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:07,890 that's, that's something that I think that's something I need to 1118 01:12:07,890 --> 01:12:12,120 address with what Brian of London said about lightning? on 1119 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:17,010 his interview, is that a couple of things, it doesn't matter. 1120 01:12:17,550 --> 01:12:20,520 You know, he he talked a lot about what if visa shows up and 1121 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,590 has $5 billion? 1122 01:12:23,130 --> 01:12:24,840 Yeah, stick to things, you know, Brian, 1123 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,720 a bunch of routing in it, who cares, that's completely 1124 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,920 irrelevant, it means nothing. If if they do that, and they've 1125 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,950 dropped their fees to zero and suck in all the routing, that's 1126 01:12:37,950 --> 01:12:40,800 fantastic. I'd highly encourage them to do that. They're gonna 1127 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,430 make no money off of it. And it gives everybody awesome 1128 01:12:44,430 --> 01:12:50,760 liquidity. And yeah, if they pull out and pull out, the 1129 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,430 network just routes around and does everything else it's it 1130 01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:56,220 means it's completely meaningless. Because like, 1131 01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:00,570 because every transaction within lightning isn't encrypted is an 1132 01:13:00,570 --> 01:13:06,210 encrypted hop and so they can't they have it gains them nothing 1133 01:13:06,210 --> 01:13:09,270 to do that because they don't get any visibility into the 1134 01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:12,150 encryption they still can't see where the where the things come 1135 01:13:12,150 --> 01:13:15,300 in where they go so right it's it's not it's not an issue it's 1136 01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:23,640 a non issue that the other thing was that you know strike is 1137 01:13:24,090 --> 01:13:30,000 strike gets a lot of flack but they are they you have to 1138 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,650 remember they're a bank. Yeah, when you when you set up a bank, 1139 01:13:34,710 --> 01:13:37,320 a strike account, you're setting up a bank accounts just like 1140 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:42,660 PayPal. So they have they have regulations that they have to 1141 01:13:42,660 --> 01:13:46,890 adhere to KYC and all that kind of jazz. So you know, when 1142 01:13:46,890 --> 01:13:50,730 you're going when it comes to these other countries and other 1143 01:13:50,730 --> 01:13:53,550 regions and that kind of thing, it's just going to take time I 1144 01:13:53,550 --> 01:13:58,380 mean, like what I wish would happen from a strike standpoint, 1145 01:13:58,380 --> 01:14:03,840 I wish that other companies that are not strike in like in 1146 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,930 Australia, there needs to be a company in Australia doing what 1147 01:14:06,930 --> 01:14:11,250 strike does and it means a strike clone company that comes 1148 01:14:11,250 --> 01:14:16,170 up and just does when they do and another one in Europe, 1149 01:14:16,170 --> 01:14:18,570 another one in South America. I mean there needs to be more of 1150 01:14:18,570 --> 01:14:21,930 these companies instead of just waiting around for one one 1151 01:14:21,930 --> 01:14:23,160 company to go do it all 1152 01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:27,150 I think that but I think we definitely need to parallel we 1153 01:14:27,150 --> 01:14:31,710 need Uncle Jim nodes we need we need a lot of that that I think 1154 01:14:31,710 --> 01:14:34,380 Yeah, you have to have that you need to have the nerdy kid is 1155 01:14:34,380 --> 01:14:37,290 going to set up the mastodon server for his kid his friends, 1156 01:14:37,290 --> 01:14:41,220 right? Yeah, you need that you need the nerd who set up the BBs 1157 01:14:41,220 --> 01:14:43,980 and had the five phone lines. I mean, I can just keep going back 1158 01:14:43,980 --> 01:14:48,780 in tech history. You needed the guy who had the shell account 1159 01:14:48,780 --> 01:14:53,220 that you could, you know, tunnel into go on and on and on and on. 1160 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,130 So I think I think it's important to have that at the 1161 01:14:56,130 --> 01:15:00,630 same time. which is you know, that's that's kind of what raspy 1162 01:15:00,630 --> 01:15:06,390 Blitz and Umbro are doing I don't know, 1163 01:15:07,620 --> 01:15:10,830 having that having that fear but the thing that makes drag so 1164 01:15:10,830 --> 01:15:16,260 beautiful is that you deposit in fiyat. And it stays in Fiat 1165 01:15:16,260 --> 01:15:20,400 until you move it somewhere else. Yeah. That's the beautiful 1166 01:15:20,460 --> 01:15:24,750 piece of it. It's a it's a, it's a Fiat to crypto gateway that 1167 01:15:24,750 --> 01:15:29,340 you don't have that you're you're not, but it's not an 1168 01:15:29,340 --> 01:15:30,180 exchange, 1169 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:36,450 can you can you go the other way with bit refill? Can you take 1170 01:15:36,450 --> 01:15:40,470 something out of bit refill? And then back to back to lightening? 1171 01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:44,760 I think you can. Because I don't know, I think I think you can go 1172 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,750 to bit refill because you know, the the big secret of bit refill 1173 01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:53,520 is that you have $1 wallet in there. So you can park funds, 1174 01:15:53,790 --> 01:15:56,580 and then you park it in there. And it's just shows in dollars 1175 01:15:56,580 --> 01:15:59,580 and just stays dollars like that forever. And then you can take 1176 01:15:59,580 --> 01:15:59,790 slash 1177 01:15:59,790 --> 01:16:01,410 tracking. Right, but 1178 01:16:01,410 --> 01:16:06,930 let me just see. Can you then can you put in from Fiat into 1179 01:16:06,930 --> 01:16:11,010 bit refill into your dollar wallet? You don't? I mean, I 1180 01:16:12,330 --> 01:16:18,630 don't know. Okay. I'll have to figure it out. Because that 1181 01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:21,870 could be an interesting way of doing it. Lightning, let me see. 1182 01:16:21,930 --> 01:16:27,630 Lightning is paying go both ways. All right off to figure it 1183 01:16:27,630 --> 01:16:31,350 out. Anyway, yeah, I mean, there's there's a barrier to 1184 01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:35,820 entry, no doubt about it. There's a barrier. But you know, 1185 01:16:35,820 --> 01:16:41,130 people getting interested. Again, I remember, go to my web 1186 01:16:41,130 --> 01:16:45,480 page, find the little RSS orange icon, right click on it, copy 1187 01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:50,010 the link up, then alt tab. And now go to the plus thing and 1188 01:16:50,010 --> 01:16:54,150 then paste it and now you're subscribed. And I remembered the 1189 01:16:54,150 --> 01:16:58,260 months and I remember when you know, well Apple has one click 1190 01:16:58,260 --> 01:17:01,410 subscription they've won forever. You know, it's none of 1191 01:17:01,410 --> 01:17:03,810 it's true. Just no one wins forever in this game. It just 1192 01:17:03,810 --> 01:17:04,650 seems that way. 1193 01:17:05,130 --> 01:17:08,850 bag. That's that's what I was saying earlier. And and it 1194 01:17:08,850 --> 01:17:11,580 drives the big tech crazy because they can't own it. And 1195 01:17:11,580 --> 01:17:11,640 it 1196 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:16,290 was who was maybe it was on pod land that all all of Google's 1197 01:17:16,290 --> 01:17:17,850 money. It's all advertising. 1198 01:17:18,780 --> 01:17:20,520 Yeah, that was brown. Well, yeah. As Brown was saying that. 1199 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,200 Yeah, yeah, it's all advertising. 1200 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,600 They don't make any they lose money on a lot of other things. 1201 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:30,840 I'm sure. advertising is becoming unpopular. This is what 1202 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,830 this is why I say Hollywood is as good as dead. Oh, sir. 1203 01:17:36,570 --> 01:17:39,180 Yeah, that's an issue played the Hassan part, too. I think she 1204 01:17:39,180 --> 01:17:41,130 has some good things to say. I'm just gonna 1205 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,890 obviously continue making the podcast for as long as people 1206 01:17:43,890 --> 01:17:48,660 want to listen to it for as long as I'm able to have guests who 1207 01:17:48,660 --> 01:17:52,590 are happy to be on it. And when I had wobble last year, it got 1208 01:17:52,590 --> 01:17:53,340 to the point where I was like, 1209 01:17:55,110 --> 01:18:00,630 it was I think, she talked a little bit at one part about how 1210 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:05,520 the latest data shows that older, like, you know, Gen X and 1211 01:18:05,580 --> 01:18:09,270 up, don't want to pay for content for media content, but 1212 01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:11,730 in the younger generations, they're fine with paying for it. 1213 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:17,430 That they feel like it's normal. I think that falls into this. 1214 01:18:17,610 --> 01:18:18,360 This discussion. 1215 01:18:18,389 --> 01:18:22,469 Hmm, sure. What is it? What is this clip you have here, which 1216 01:18:22,469 --> 01:18:27,509 is triggering me? What? I don't know. coder radio? indie apps. 1217 01:18:28,830 --> 01:18:31,620 Yeah, this is a good clip. This is a really good clip. 1218 01:18:31,860 --> 01:18:36,330 This is gonna trigger me. Yeah, okay. All right. Yeah. 1219 01:18:37,410 --> 01:18:40,680 I know what Spotify did. Did hit me up with where's this from? 1220 01:18:41,460 --> 01:18:44,580 This is from a podcast called coder radio. And this guy's name 1221 01:18:44,580 --> 01:18:51,990 is Chris Fisher. Yeah, Chris Fisher, he he's talking about 1222 01:18:52,350 --> 01:18:56,700 the a song about Spotify. You know, try it. I don't know, play 1223 01:18:56,700 --> 01:18:57,210 it. You 1224 01:18:58,290 --> 01:19:02,160 know, what Spotify did? did hit me up with a proposal. It was 1225 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,280 like super low ad rates. But it was like guaranteed three ads a 1226 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:09,870 show. And you get access to our music library. And I went What? 1227 01:19:10,710 --> 01:19:14,550 Let me think about that. But no, I'm not not, like do a DJ show. 1228 01:19:15,210 --> 01:19:18,840 No, but you could, but yeah, like if you use their PC, you 1229 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,330 have to switch your publishing platform. You have to switch to 1230 01:19:21,330 --> 01:19:24,180 their feed servers and all that kind of stuff. But if you 1231 01:19:24,180 --> 01:19:27,870 publish through you can you still I I'm not sure about this. 1232 01:19:27,900 --> 01:19:29,850 I think you can still remake an I think you can still have a 1233 01:19:29,850 --> 01:19:32,700 public RSS feed. But you have to publish through their system. 1234 01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:36,990 But if you do that, they let you they give you license, like a 1235 01:19:36,990 --> 01:19:40,800 radio station to their music library. So you can you could do 1236 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,290 a DJ show, or we could have like, you know, your favorite 1237 01:19:43,290 --> 01:19:46,920 song is our intro music, that kind of thing. But you have to 1238 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,130 sell your soul. They own they own you. They own the content, 1239 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,220 and they own all the ad deals and they give you a very small 1240 01:19:53,220 --> 01:19:56,220 cut. But they give you a lot of small cuts. I mean, have you 1241 01:19:56,220 --> 01:19:59,280 ever read the apple developer agreement? The souls already 1242 01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,490 gotta gotta Couple markers on it. I know and Twitch is doing 1243 01:20:02,490 --> 01:20:06,390 the same thing. YouTube is going down its dark route I tell you 1244 01:20:06,420 --> 01:20:10,890 it is the only thing that's really gonna save podcasting is 1245 01:20:10,890 --> 01:20:15,720 if listeners continue to use and insist they use their own 1246 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,050 podcast apps, their favorite podcast app if they use these, 1247 01:20:19,230 --> 01:20:22,500 you know and I we have people listening on Spotify, I am 1248 01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:25,830 grateful they listen, especially if it's the best way or only way 1249 01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:29,790 for you to listen. But the best thing you could do is subscribe 1250 01:20:29,790 --> 01:20:32,460 to the show at coder dot show slash subscribe in an 1251 01:20:32,460 --> 01:20:37,830 independent podcast app that isn't owned by Apple or Amazon 1252 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:42,090 or Spotify. I love overcast right that's great you'll pry it 1253 01:20:42,090 --> 01:20:45,480 from my cold dead hands Hey Whatever happened to pocket 1254 01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:47,790 casts Are they still around? Yeah, they got bought by 1255 01:20:47,790 --> 01:20:48,180 lightning 1256 01:20:50,670 --> 01:20:54,870 Well, I think I think this is a recognition amongst people that 1257 01:20:55,140 --> 01:20:58,230 you know yeah, these are old time podcasters but I think 1258 01:20:58,230 --> 01:21:03,210 there's a recognition out there that that these big companies or 1259 01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,450 big tech is throwing around deals that really don't make 1260 01:21:06,450 --> 01:21:08,820 sense for smaller podcasters at all 1261 01:21:08,820 --> 01:21:12,360 No, no, no but this is there with the minute you do what 1262 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,690 Spotify is doing you're in the hits business that's what it is 1263 01:21:15,690 --> 01:21:19,980 and you're gonna get true crime and celebrity content that's it 1264 01:21:20,010 --> 01:21:23,790 that's that's how that's and that was the constant battle I 1265 01:21:23,790 --> 01:21:27,180 had with my own Podcast Network I know how this works and that 1266 01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:28,860 was not even a closed system 1267 01:21:29,910 --> 01:21:33,030 it's just found it interesting that they're that their pitch is 1268 01:21:33,420 --> 01:21:36,090 one of the one part of their pitches you can access the music 1269 01:21:36,090 --> 01:21:37,110 catalog Yeah, 1270 01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:40,320 but from what I understand you can't talk over the music you 1271 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,110 know there's a whole bunch of different restrictions 1272 01:21:43,620 --> 01:21:47,250 and if you ever leave you got to redo all of your back catalogue 1273 01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:51,090 well yeah there's that but also again I like looking forward you 1274 01:21:51,090 --> 01:21:55,350 know i'm i'm looking forward to April Kirby with with a value 1275 01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:59,160 block split on the on the new album. Yeah, that's what I'm 1276 01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,620 looking forward to and I'm looking forward to meeting the 1277 01:22:01,980 --> 01:22:06,090 developer who creates that front end to what we're already doing 1278 01:22:06,090 --> 01:22:07,590 and make it just pure music. 1279 01:22:09,660 --> 01:22:12,150 Speaking speaking of label Kirby, we're gonna do some 1280 01:22:12,930 --> 01:22:13,560 things some people 1281 01:22:13,710 --> 01:22:16,440 yes, this is a very good idea. It is indeed time. 1282 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:17,820 Here's your cue to 1283 01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:24,300 boost you know you want to it is value for value all the way on 1284 01:22:24,330 --> 01:22:28,890 podcasting. 2.0 if you're new, and you made it this far, we'd 1285 01:22:28,890 --> 01:22:31,740 like the value just as much as everybody else you can do that 1286 01:22:31,740 --> 01:22:36,000 with a brand new podcasting app, a new podcast apps calm there's 1287 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,970 a lot of different ones to choose from certainly the ones 1288 01:22:38,970 --> 01:22:42,990 that do value for value. And if you do you prefer to use your 1289 01:22:42,990 --> 01:22:46,260 Fiat fund coupons go to podcast index.org at the bottom there's 1290 01:22:46,260 --> 01:22:49,860 a red Donate button and you can send it to us via PayPal when we 1291 01:22:49,860 --> 01:22:52,890 really like thanking everybody who is supporting the entire 1292 01:22:52,890 --> 01:22:56,850 mission of podcast index the drive behind the namespace the 1293 01:22:56,850 --> 01:22:59,430 mastodon and of course the podcast the board meeting which 1294 01:22:59,430 --> 01:23:03,900 is again for all the producers who are always welcome could we 1295 01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:06,120 have again to boost the grams first or what are we doing? 1296 01:23:06,300 --> 01:23:10,320 No no no I'm gonna do get one Pay Pal this week one one 1297 01:23:10,500 --> 01:23:12,750 only one one off so what we're doing is we're shifting the 1298 01:23:12,750 --> 01:23:18,540 booster grams and we're going to go poor doing it Yes. I was I 1299 01:23:18,540 --> 01:23:22,440 was afraid of that. We're gonna have fun That's right. Okay, 1300 01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:25,050 thank god bitcoins going up it compensates 1301 01:23:25,530 --> 01:23:34,530 $114 from Super nerd media $114.49 Okay, and I don't know 1302 01:23:34,530 --> 01:23:38,520 if he wants me to give his real name so I'm gonna say just super 1303 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,840 nerd for now. Cuz I can't tell from the note but he says as the 1304 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:47,490 first donor. First donation know for $114.49 All right, please 1305 01:23:47,490 --> 01:23:51,030 accept this donation, which is $100 for a T shirt. Yeah, we got 1306 01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:54,990 you on the rose. I wonder if we're having handheld air. He 1307 01:23:54,990 --> 01:23:56,940 won't wonder if we're having supply chain issues 1308 01:23:56,969 --> 01:24:01,229 within t shirts. Let me let me defragment this person first. 1309 01:24:04,169 --> 01:24:05,849 First time Thank you very much. 1310 01:24:06,420 --> 01:24:09,420 T shirt plus $10 which I hope cover shipping and handling and 1311 01:24:09,420 --> 01:24:13,440 $4.49 because you don't need to be paying PayPal tax. I got your 1312 01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:16,950 back. Oh, thank you. Thank you for the work that you and Adam 1313 01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:19,800 are doing and the index and thank you for the PC 2.0 1314 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,550 podcast. Your soliloquy. They don't care about us. We're only 1315 01:24:23,550 --> 01:24:26,130 numbers in a spreadsheet to them was one of the best summaries of 1316 01:24:26,130 --> 01:24:29,130 the us versus them situation I've heard. And I hope you don't 1317 01:24:29,130 --> 01:24:31,980 mind that I clipped and played that on the barnhardt podcast. 1318 01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,110 Thank you for your courage and go podcasting. 1319 01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:40,950 Oh boy. Barnhart ever since I published that little package of 1320 01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:42,750 jingles they're showing up everywhere. 1321 01:24:43,140 --> 01:24:45,960 Yes, I noticed that. Yeah. And they're loud. 1322 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:47,520 loud. 1323 01:24:48,630 --> 01:24:50,730 It's really funny when you have like a normalized 1324 01:24:51,630 --> 01:25:03,060 volume. Why are you laughing? Shut up. Yeah shut up shut up. 1325 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,660 Anonymous play anonymous plebe send us 10,000 SATs 1326 01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,740 Oh, booster grams okay anonymous pleiad he said 1327 01:25:13,859 --> 01:25:16,619 been streaming SAS for months thanks for the podcasting 2.0 1328 01:25:16,619 --> 01:25:18,089 rabbit hole anonymous bleep 1329 01:25:19,980 --> 01:25:21,060 thank you very much 1330 01:25:22,170 --> 01:25:23,130 see got we got some 1331 01:25:23,130 --> 01:25:25,920 and by the way for people who are not boosting thank you for 1332 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,770 streaming satoshis in real time as well obviously we love 1333 01:25:28,770 --> 01:25:29,910 getting the value back 1334 01:25:30,450 --> 01:25:34,680 yeah and send us drop us maybe drops a little tiny me a 50 cent 1335 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,610 boost sometime and leave a message if you want to boost 1336 01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:43,140 Gary arts and he sent a 1776 1337 01:25:43,650 --> 01:25:51,540 patriot boost now as the French say it is time for low boost 1338 01:25:52,110 --> 01:25:57,750 now you did a 1776 boost and played the French I know I know 1339 01:25:58,620 --> 01:26:00,210 you're rubbing it in their face well 1340 01:26:00,330 --> 01:26:04,320 well you know like we did learn the republic from them and let's 1341 01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,990 be honest, it was their idea first 1342 01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,929 Yeah, they just had to take it one step too far and start 1343 01:26:09,929 --> 01:26:12,449 killing people for being Christians in the end we'll get 1344 01:26:12,449 --> 01:26:13,289 rid of the calendar. 1345 01:26:13,980 --> 01:26:17,820 Well okay, but they also cut off the heads of their leaders so 1346 01:26:17,820 --> 01:26:19,740 you know there's some other good things they did 1347 01:26:20,340 --> 01:26:26,370 true. Okay. It's uh, we will we will declare a stalemate on this 1348 01:26:26,370 --> 01:26:30,360 one. Okay. podcasting 2.0 is changing everything The future 1349 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,150 is here. Most people just don't know it yet. I agree here 1350 01:26:33,150 --> 01:26:36,300 of course of course. It's hot. That's how it goes. We're in for 1351 01:26:36,300 --> 01:26:37,200 the long haul. 1352 01:26:40,530 --> 01:26:45,810 Anonymous for 1000 sets through breeze and anonymous just says 1353 01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:46,530 okay, 1354 01:26:47,309 --> 01:26:51,359 okay. All right. Thanks appreciate it. We'll take it 1355 01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:51,959 That's good. 1356 01:26:52,620 --> 01:26:53,790 Isn't weird as boosted 1357 01:26:56,130 --> 01:27:00,660 I think did did the pod lamb guys get a really rude one that 1358 01:27:00,660 --> 01:27:01,680 it didn't want to read. 1359 01:27:03,390 --> 01:27:04,530 You gotta read this stuff. 1360 01:27:04,530 --> 01:27:07,830 But the thing that's great though is and James understands 1361 01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:10,620 this he said I'll take your money anyway. Even though you 1362 01:27:10,620 --> 01:27:13,230 said something horrible to me. Yeah, that's the beauty of it. 1363 01:27:13,230 --> 01:27:17,520 That makes you feel kind of okay about it. If every every troll 1364 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,880 gave you a 10 sat 10,000 SATs with every troll they did. You'd 1365 01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,670 be like okay, maybe with another it's like 1366 01:27:23,670 --> 01:27:26,190 somebody's just getting all up in your grill and just treating 1367 01:27:26,190 --> 01:27:28,890 you like garbage and then buying you a beer after afterwards. 1368 01:27:29,430 --> 01:27:32,580 Exactly. And here's a beer. 1369 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:38,580 Yeah. Abel Kirby since 5000 SATs Oh man, Curio caster and he says 1370 01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,610 I tried to make a podcast using clean feet and Bluetooth but 1371 01:27:41,610 --> 01:27:44,280 there is no way to get high quality audio and the microphone 1372 01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,580 running at the same time is a huge annoying oversight. 1373 01:27:47,790 --> 01:27:52,080 Now Bluetooth Bluetooth is scary man a scary you know there was a 1374 01:27:52,530 --> 01:27:56,010 in the beginning when I really started to use the noise gate. 1375 01:27:56,790 --> 01:28:01,200 As a part of my overall podcast sound. I get a lot of emails 1376 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:05,520 saying Dude, you can't do that. What do you mean? Well when you 1377 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:10,680 send out 00 bytes through the system my my bluetooth thinks 1378 01:28:10,710 --> 01:28:16,320 we're done and shuts off pause so there'll be a pause you know 1379 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,670 for like a second or two I like I love pauses but everyone can 1380 01:28:20,670 --> 01:28:24,510 think up like what's happened and then usually picks back up 1381 01:28:24,510 --> 01:28:26,490 it was just cutting out so yeah, there's there's problems with 1382 01:28:26,490 --> 01:28:27,060 Bluetooth. 1383 01:28:27,630 --> 01:28:34,500 Yeah, that's funny. Dred Scott 35,000 SAS or Curio caster, he's 1384 01:28:34,500 --> 01:28:35,640 a machine gun. 1385 01:28:36,750 --> 01:28:44,700 Alright, so Dred Scott, who is a big part of of this, this 1386 01:28:44,700 --> 01:28:49,650 movement? Because he has he has been really showing everybody 1387 01:28:49,650 --> 01:28:54,780 how cloud chapters work how they work. Separate from the podcast. 1388 01:28:55,050 --> 01:28:59,790 He does them for this podcast for the no agenda show he does 1389 01:28:59,790 --> 01:29:04,830 it for Moe facts he does it for the show with Laila and her dad 1390 01:29:04,830 --> 01:29:12,960 the Fun Fact Friday Yeah, Fun Fact Friday he he's always it we 1391 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,660 have them in the in the split for all of these shows. He's 1392 01:29:15,690 --> 01:29:19,560 always supporting me. I think this guy is probably like a 1393 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:25,020 Bruce Wayne type. He's gotta be a billionaire. He's got a 1394 01:29:25,020 --> 01:29:31,050 Batcave, he comes out from time to time. chapters. And then he 1395 01:29:31,050 --> 01:29:33,510 goes back to his cave, and you know, and then he's hosting a 1396 01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:37,200 party with all these beautiful models and politicians and 1397 01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:40,620 Hollywood people. That's what I think Dred Scott is he's a very 1398 01:29:40,620 --> 01:29:41,640 mysterious man. 1399 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,150 Each and every now and then somewhere, wherever, wherever he 1400 01:29:45,150 --> 01:29:49,800 lives. He just blows through the waterfall in the bet in the in 1401 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:54,960 the automobile. The automobile. Yeah, the dream of Bill has 1402 01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,780 night on the town. comes back. I 1403 01:29:58,890 --> 01:30:03,780 do want to say drib And I said this to the clip custodian to I 1404 01:30:03,780 --> 01:30:08,610 said when you need to take a break just take it out and 1405 01:30:08,610 --> 01:30:12,270 please just shoot us an email it'll all be fine. Take the 1406 01:30:12,270 --> 01:30:15,780 break you know I was so happy the clip custodian he took a two 1407 01:30:15,780 --> 01:30:20,490 week break that was for shows and I was so happy he did that. 1408 01:30:20,910 --> 01:30:24,120 Because I have seen it happen people participate and now of 1409 01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:29,640 course, we have a relationship because cloud custodian and drab 1410 01:30:29,670 --> 01:30:35,760 they're getting 5% of everything you know, so it's interesting 1411 01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,210 how much better it works when that's in place because I've 1412 01:30:39,210 --> 01:30:42,120 seen people burn out like crazy and I would say you're gonna 1413 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:46,110 burn out man like just stop but when there's when there's a 1414 01:30:46,170 --> 01:30:49,710 financial relationship involved even though it's pretty ad hoc 1415 01:30:49,710 --> 01:30:52,380 you know, we have no paperwork or anything actually. I think we 1416 01:30:52,380 --> 01:30:56,760 do we will send the 1099 or something to Dr. Eric has that 1417 01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:03,510 covered I hope or I presume that relationship makes it better 1418 01:31:03,510 --> 01:31:08,220 somehow not worse. Yeah, you know what I mean? Anyway, dread 1419 01:31:08,250 --> 01:31:10,800 you're you're a gem my friend. Thank you so much. 1420 01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,790 Yeah, that is no just says go podcast. 1421 01:31:15,540 --> 01:31:17,670 Of course it does. And we will let you know. 1422 01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:29,340 Okay, through breeze anonymous. Let's see here. Okay, video 1423 01:31:29,340 --> 01:31:35,520 podcast. Host Yes. This is for this. discombobulated. 1223 SATs 1424 01:31:36,180 --> 01:31:39,390 through breeze video podcast. Host Yes. I was blown away when 1425 01:31:39,390 --> 01:31:44,010 I started putting clips from mm on three spake mortals. 1426 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:48,390 Oh, hey. Oh wait, he's already he's already on three speak not 1427 01:31:48,390 --> 01:31:49,260 with the hives. 1428 01:31:49,470 --> 01:31:54,360 Evidently. Wow. All right. Which I will I have to I have to 1429 01:31:54,930 --> 01:32:01,950 register a complaint with the Department of hive. Brian, you 1430 01:32:01,980 --> 01:32:04,830 are not the world's first value for value video enabled 1431 01:32:04,830 --> 01:32:09,990 platform. That title belongs to no agenda gates within a tube. 1432 01:32:10,050 --> 01:32:10,560 Yes, 1433 01:32:10,620 --> 01:32:14,070 but I'm happy to hear and I mean this 1434 01:32:14,670 --> 01:32:18,270 he's getting paid now he's getting some jack I didn't know 1435 01:32:18,270 --> 01:32:23,280 he was getting he got the bag man. Brian, Brian. The bag man 1436 01:32:23,670 --> 01:32:28,350 the bag. Now I get it Yeah. Now I know Chris tour. Yeah. Oh, 1437 01:32:28,350 --> 01:32:33,660 this is this is so first he got the award, which is a nice award 1438 01:32:33,660 --> 01:32:36,450 by the way. Anybody can make up to 30 grand you said or 1439 01:32:36,450 --> 01:32:36,960 something? 1440 01:32:37,380 --> 01:32:40,740 Yeah, yeah. And that's, that's 75 trillion 1441 01:32:40,770 --> 01:32:44,490 hive and now and now he's doing a victory lap. He's doing a 1442 01:32:44,490 --> 01:32:48,600 little press tour. Little PR let everyone know. That 1443 01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,790 Congratulations, man. That's right. I think he's the first 1444 01:32:50,790 --> 01:32:56,790 one to exit. He's the first exit from podcasting. 2.0 not very 1445 01:32:56,790 --> 01:33:00,720 well. Very good. I'm proud not proud of that. I think that's 1446 01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,140 fantastic. I love that. And I want everybody to make money. 1447 01:33:04,140 --> 01:33:06,120 Everybody should be making money on this. 1448 01:33:06,510 --> 01:33:10,080 And it makes piping a better product. Hell, yeah. Bill 1449 01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:14,760 Prague's and it's 2000 SATs. And he says in this report for and 1450 01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,910 he says, that is how media creates drama. There was no 1451 01:33:17,910 --> 01:33:22,470 hate. I was actually thinking Daniel is just too complicated 1452 01:33:22,470 --> 01:33:26,250 for me. I understand simple things like high spending go 1453 01:33:26,250 --> 01:33:30,480 podcasting. You're exactly right this week create drama. That's 1454 01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:32,820 what makes booster jams exciting. Yes, 1455 01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,510 exactly. It was that means the contest is over. Are we done 1456 01:33:36,510 --> 01:33:40,380 now? Is the hit. I like monetizing hate. That was so 1457 01:33:40,380 --> 01:33:41,010 much fun. 1458 01:33:41,430 --> 01:33:44,700 monetizing. Hey, yes, it's built right into the protocol 1459 01:33:44,700 --> 01:33:48,480 everybody just agree. If you send us a booster gram we're 1460 01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:50,010 gonna twist it to our own ends 1461 01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:52,920 That's right. We will make hate out of it. Yes. 1462 01:33:54,450 --> 01:33:58,050 Brian of London and his 20,000 SATs he says pod paying is the 1463 01:33:58,050 --> 01:34:04,470 gateway drug yes it is thanks Brian. What I want to say is 1464 01:34:04,470 --> 01:34:05,340 he's plugging this stuff 1465 01:34:05,340 --> 01:34:08,790 again he's plugging his contract 1466 01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:14,160 yes 75 trillion Hi. Why don't we get out of there Come on bro. I 1467 01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:16,589 don't mind him saying that but what he says you know the 1468 01:34:16,589 --> 01:34:21,299 useless calculations of Bitcoin now okay. Yeah, all right. hive 1469 01:34:21,299 --> 01:34:21,929 master. 1470 01:34:24,660 --> 01:34:30,270 Cow a bear is 10,035 sets through cast ematic He says, 1471 01:34:30,540 --> 01:34:33,210 wish I could try to do what I wish I could try 1472 01:34:33,210 --> 01:34:35,190 cast ematic it's iOS only isn't it? 1473 01:34:35,849 --> 01:34:37,589 Oh, yeah. You're Yeah, you 1474 01:34:37,590 --> 01:34:40,530 can't hear good things about it. People like oh, it's great. I 1475 01:34:40,530 --> 01:34:45,000 like I use it a lot. Yeah. I like the I like the boost 1476 01:34:45,030 --> 01:34:47,880 booster gram editor in it because it's full screen and I 1477 01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,490 get a lot of places. A lot of space to type. 1478 01:34:50,519 --> 01:34:51,209 Nice. 1479 01:34:51,599 --> 01:34:54,809 Nice cow, a bear since 10,035. says 1480 01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:58,199 thanks, man. today. That's a lot of money today. 1481 01:34:58,500 --> 01:35:02,460 Oh no. He's he's about outdo himself in a minute get ready oh 1482 01:35:02,490 --> 01:35:06,180 put your seatbelt on okay. He says hallelujah it's raining 1483 01:35:06,180 --> 01:35:10,650 SATs whip out your Umbro okay um bro 1484 01:35:13,139 --> 01:35:14,099 bro node 1485 01:35:15,300 --> 01:35:21,330 bro node thank you thank you thank you 1486 01:35:22,290 --> 01:35:28,290 see that's that's a duplicate a double printed time okay all 1487 01:35:28,290 --> 01:35:32,520 right again I'm moving on anonymous through breeze 10,000 1488 01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,880 SATs it says boost from the breeze app Nice work boys 1489 01:35:36,149 --> 01:35:40,589 thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you and you know 1490 01:35:40,589 --> 01:35:43,529 you you you you help out everybody when you boost 1491 01:35:45,090 --> 01:35:47,460 bro yeah that's that's a good point that I don't know if 1492 01:35:47,460 --> 01:35:50,970 people understand when you boost everybody down the chain also 1493 01:35:50,970 --> 01:35:56,850 gets their cut so the app gets their percentage the podcaster 1494 01:35:56,850 --> 01:36:01,080 gets their percentage the index we get a percentage for the API 1495 01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:06,240 and in anybody if you do the full boost like the breeze then 1496 01:36:06,510 --> 01:36:10,830 everybody that's in the split also gets a percentage so like 1497 01:36:11,010 --> 01:36:13,770 that's yeah you're sharing the love sharing the 1498 01:36:13,770 --> 01:36:15,690 love yeah this is literal love 1499 01:36:17,250 --> 01:36:22,950 round of London 333 SATs I have to boost my debut on podcasting 1500 01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:24,810 2.0 Yes you did. 1501 01:36:24,899 --> 01:36:25,439 Thank you 1502 01:36:26,610 --> 01:36:27,240 and you did 1503 01:36:28,229 --> 01:36:31,469 say Who is this and we put them in a split that all works that 1504 01:36:31,469 --> 01:36:35,189 that went reasonably painless I didn't realize I had to give put 1505 01:36:35,189 --> 01:36:40,799 in a special key and value for him because I just taken his I 1506 01:36:40,799 --> 01:36:44,399 forget even though he just sent me I just got his node ID and I 1507 01:36:44,399 --> 01:36:47,819 put it in I didn't pay attention and then we republish the feed 1508 01:36:48,329 --> 01:36:50,399 with the with the correct information which I just put in 1509 01:36:50,399 --> 01:36:54,389 the split editor on Curio caster worked perfectly. He was getting 1510 01:36:54,389 --> 01:36:57,179 SATs and he could see it flow all the way through to that damn 1511 01:36:57,179 --> 01:36:57,929 hive machine 1512 01:37:00,030 --> 01:37:03,720 all the way all the way the little mouse the mouse trap 1513 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:05,250 flipped and the little thing came down the 1514 01:37:05,490 --> 01:37:08,790 pong ball fell on the spoon the spoon king over a cat 1515 01:37:12,330 --> 01:37:16,380 Okay, let's see Frank is hilarious and a prankster of 1516 01:37:16,380 --> 01:37:17,730 booster grams Franco 1517 01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:23,070 he hooked me up with the Italian podcast festival i think i think 1518 01:37:23,070 --> 01:37:25,200 i got his name I think we got it wrong on the last show. 1519 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:35,520 Okay, he said he said 4489 says 2689 set 3585 sets 905 sets 1520 01:37:35,550 --> 01:37:36,570 wow What's he doing? 1521 01:37:38,250 --> 01:37:39,660 He's evidently testing is 1522 01:37:41,250 --> 01:37:43,800 are these numbers have any any important? 1523 01:37:44,190 --> 01:37:51,840 I don't know. Just random 192 SATs and 896 sat 1524 01:37:52,260 --> 01:37:55,350 just okay maybe random any messages? 1525 01:37:56,729 --> 01:37:59,129 There are other messages all the same on every one of them. Okay, 1526 01:37:59,159 --> 01:38:02,549 greetings from festival festival of podcasting. 1527 01:38:02,610 --> 01:38:04,320 Ah Viva La podcast 1528 01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,840 is Italian so is V Viva is editor 1529 01:38:09,870 --> 01:38:12,810 that's what he asked us that's what they asked me to say. Okay, 1530 01:38:12,990 --> 01:38:14,550 I think was Viva podcasting. 1531 01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:19,830 I'm where I'm so bad at languages 1377 sat 1532 01:38:21,300 --> 01:38:24,810 he just saying the same message with random numbers is he having 1533 01:38:24,810 --> 01:38:26,670 a stroke maybe is what's going on 1534 01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:31,710 if you smell almonds 1535 01:38:34,140 --> 01:38:36,570 call us don't boost to grandma's I 1536 01:38:36,570 --> 01:38:39,480 don't know how many that is altogether yeah that's like when 1537 01:38:39,480 --> 01:38:41,370 you call the doctor and they're like if you have an emergency 1538 01:38:41,370 --> 01:38:45,810 don't leave a message yeah not one more Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so 1539 01:38:45,810 --> 01:38:46,560 I don't know how much well but 1540 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:50,880 yeah, we love it man. Thank you Thank you very much. And it was 1541 01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,670 fun it was fun doing my little bit there I hope I hope you guys 1542 01:38:53,670 --> 01:38:56,580 got some nice feedback I've no idea how that went there's no 1543 01:38:56,580 --> 01:38:58,920 Italians emailing me so who knows? 1544 01:38:59,610 --> 01:39:02,070 Well that might be good. Not emailing you with hate 1545 01:39:03,750 --> 01:39:05,730 but since it's pick on Adam week 1546 01:39:06,209 --> 01:39:11,609 now it's a 5000 SATs anonymous through breeze and says my first 1547 01:39:11,609 --> 01:39:14,369 V for V boost Dame Jennifer's irresistible 1548 01:39:19,410 --> 01:39:20,400 top secret boyfriend 1549 01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:24,450 do bf I'm gonna meet the new BMC I'm gonna meet the new bf at at 1550 01:39:24,450 --> 01:39:25,560 the ball strap meet up 1551 01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,130 Oh Is she coming out there? Yeah well that's a that's a long 1552 01:39:29,430 --> 01:39:34,710 few 130 people are coming they had to stop they said no more 1553 01:39:34,710 --> 01:39:36,810 note no one else can come we're full 1554 01:39:37,410 --> 01:39:40,230 yeah it's gonna end up being like a like Woodstock 99 1555 01:39:40,260 --> 01:39:42,240 they have a parking attendant 1556 01:39:43,050 --> 01:39:43,830 jeez 1557 01:39:45,210 --> 01:39:46,920 these people are super mad. 1558 01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:48,960 Yeah cuz you're gonna you're gonna end up having to get 1559 01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,120 permits I'm thinking I should probably go strapped you 1560 01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,250 know, it's like a lot of people there could be some idiots I 1561 01:39:53,250 --> 01:39:56,190 gotta be I gotta be I gotta be packing heat. 1562 01:39:56,969 --> 01:39:59,369 He starts it starts as made up for you know, it's 1563 01:39:59,370 --> 01:40:05,070 a shootout. Is the shoot out direction oh yeah well there 1564 01:40:05,070 --> 01:40:06,570 will be spooks there for sure. 1565 01:40:07,380 --> 01:40:12,060 Sir Sir Pete sent us 5000 SATs through the fountain app and he 1566 01:40:12,060 --> 01:40:15,210 says love the story of Brian of London gonna go trust them 1567 01:40:15,210 --> 01:40:16,890 emojis now go podcasting 1568 01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:22,170 all right thank you sir peaks are paid has been around a long 1569 01:40:22,170 --> 01:40:25,500 time he's been in the he's been with us a long time. 1570 01:40:27,180 --> 01:40:31,170 And another 1776 boosts anonymous through through breeze 1571 01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:35,610 Oh, it's not anonymous. This is from Max Hillenbrand ah Hello my 1572 01:40:36,390 --> 01:40:39,450 love you guys I'll shower you with impossible feature request 1573 01:40:39,450 --> 01:40:39,750 to 1574 01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:43,290 spray in the SATs. 1575 01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:50,040 Yeah, Liberty sets and Marissa ski Oscar Mary gave us a second 1576 01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:51,720 shoes and which 1577 01:40:52,050 --> 01:40:54,120 I heard is also a row of ducks. 1578 01:40:55,350 --> 01:40:58,410 Oh, is that what the that's I can see. Yeah. 1579 01:40:59,100 --> 01:41:04,050 So if you do a two to six zero that's a duck duck go donation 1580 01:41:05,970 --> 01:41:08,100 like that you're welcome back 1581 01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:09,840 thank you thank you Oscar no message. 1582 01:41:10,770 --> 01:41:14,640 We understand you don't always have to say we know we'd like to 1583 01:41:14,910 --> 01:41:15,630 we'd love you to 1584 01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:20,610 and he's been programming he didn't have time to Franco 1585 01:41:20,910 --> 01:41:24,630 Franco celerio again 1000 sets and he says it was actually me 1586 01:41:25,290 --> 01:41:30,150 with Italian festival did the intro in Italian was great. 1587 01:41:30,179 --> 01:41:33,059 Oh okay, so my joke did work. 1588 01:41:33,510 --> 01:41:36,000 Can we have independent confirmation that the joke that 1589 01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:43,080 the joke went off Chad Pharaoh 3333 sets through fountain he 1590 01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:46,170 says Adam and Dave Can we please have a moment of silence for the 1591 01:41:46,170 --> 01:41:53,340 pod friend iOS beta oh no you can't it's been resurrected 1592 01:41:53,370 --> 01:41:57,600 It's okay It's okay actually I that's why I asked you earlier 1593 01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:05,460 because always have that already. But no, it's back 1594 01:42:05,460 --> 01:42:07,260 there's no need to pay played taps. 1595 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:13,020 The reports of its death are premature. Yes. 2200 exaggerated 1596 01:42:13,020 --> 01:42:18,780 and exaggerated. The C 2200 for SATs were from anonymous to the 1597 01:42:18,780 --> 01:42:23,760 pod friend app. It says how much how much satoshis are flowing 1598 01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,550 through the systems daily hmm 1599 01:42:28,530 --> 01:42:30,270 I don't know anymore. 1600 01:42:31,740 --> 01:42:34,560 I can get that information for the next show. Yeah let's it's 1601 01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:35,310 all in the database. 1602 01:42:35,610 --> 01:42:38,640 Yeah, what will be interesting most interesting me is number of 1603 01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:43,470 transactions and then obviously if we can break out streaming by 1604 01:42:43,470 --> 01:42:47,580 boosts and then what it's never gonna be it's just gonna be 1605 01:42:47,580 --> 01:42:52,830 approximate right? When he SATs but but I think the number of 1606 01:42:52,830 --> 01:42:56,790 transactions is extremely interesting to me. It's like 1607 01:42:56,790 --> 01:42:58,380 hash rate for Bitcoin you know? 1608 01:43:00,810 --> 01:43:01,410 Let's see. 1609 01:43:02,430 --> 01:43:07,260 Are you doing SQL as we speak Select star from looking 1610 01:43:07,260 --> 01:43:08,040 at our daily 1611 01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:12,060 from 1612 01:43:12,210 --> 01:43:13,410 the more of that star 1613 01:43:15,149 --> 01:43:18,809 I told you I wanted RM sh 1614 01:43:20,250 --> 01:43:27,930 All right. Oh yeah, don't do that was bad. Okay, we had a 1615 01:43:27,930 --> 01:43:34,410 total of over the last 24 hours at 2711 transactions ever sizes 1616 01:43:35,220 --> 01:43:39,360 against that payment over the last 24 hours we had 2711 1617 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:40,350 transactions 1618 01:43:42,090 --> 01:43:47,460 2711 transaction an average was 16 sacks SATs. 1619 01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:53,190 SATs yeah 24 hours before that was 781 transactions with an 1620 01:43:53,190 --> 01:43:57,660 average of 178 SATs. So I'll have to be I've got 1621 01:43:57,660 --> 01:44:01,500 to do some wizardry some average some wizardry on this and then 1622 01:44:01,500 --> 01:44:04,440 that's just our system but then we have to extrapolate that for 1623 01:44:04,440 --> 01:44:06,600 how everyone else is doing Do we have any idea 1624 01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:12,990 those are original amounts coming through so that I'm not 1625 01:44:12,990 --> 01:44:17,850 sure that represents anything and I'll bring stats next time. 1626 01:44:18,450 --> 01:44:23,340 Cool. Let's see. Anonymous through breeze Oh is not an 1627 01:44:23,340 --> 01:44:29,580 armistice is 3300 SAS he says so cool. It's so cool to hear your 1628 01:44:29,580 --> 01:44:32,640 own oh here so cool to hear your own boost came true about the 1629 01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:35,310 nerdy stuff Terry at in a social 1630 01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:36,780 Thank you very much. Thank 1631 01:44:36,780 --> 01:44:44,130 you for Thank you, Terry. Ghost. Here is cow a bear 100,000 SATs 1632 01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:50,070 holy crap. I wasn't ready for this. Okay. Yes, he 1633 01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:55,080 says Bala cola 20 inch blades on the previous prom go off in 1634 01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:55,770 podcasting 1635 01:44:55,830 --> 01:45:05,430 shot Kala blades on the Impala. I'm sorry you're good good well 1636 01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:07,860 I talked to him about it I said 1637 01:45:07,860 --> 01:45:08,490 okay with it 1638 01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:11,550 yeah of course he said I said no I just I just want to tell you 1639 01:45:11,550 --> 01:45:15,300 man we've been stealing this for podcasting 2.0 is it now no no 1640 01:45:15,300 --> 01:45:20,610 no we we share we lend and borrow he says I know we're 1641 01:45:20,610 --> 01:45:23,100 doing mo karma. Where do you think that came from? It's a 1642 01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:23,550 good point. 1643 01:45:24,930 --> 01:45:29,220 Nice Yeah. I don't you're not a gamer. So you don't you're not 1644 01:45:29,220 --> 01:45:31,770 going to get this reference. But there's a game called Marvel vs 1645 01:45:31,770 --> 01:45:39,900 Capcom, which is like it has these crazy like, moves where 1646 01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,630 you'd like launch an attack at somebody in the whole screen 1647 01:45:42,630 --> 01:45:46,380 shakes and craps blowing up and there's lasers. All kinds of 1648 01:45:46,380 --> 01:45:52,050 crap coming out. Like this is what I see in my head when call 1649 01:45:52,050 --> 01:45:56,280 a bear since 100,000 says he's the voice of Dragonball Z guy. 1650 01:45:56,729 --> 01:45:59,069 Oh, right. Right right. Right right 1651 01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:02,400 explosion of sass coming through, you know, and like 1652 01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:04,950 shaking the screen and everything you'd like, in yo 1653 01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:08,160 just, you know Satoshi blast it's just some kind of huge you 1654 01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:08,940 know, crazy crap. 1655 01:46:09,210 --> 01:46:14,010 Well, for me that would be Street Fighter two dhalsim Yes, 1656 01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:18,090 yes. Yeah, I mean, that's where I kind of left gaming. I was I 1657 01:46:18,090 --> 01:46:23,340 was pretty good at that. dulcimer that long ass leg that 1658 01:46:23,340 --> 01:46:27,330 could come up Yeah, and the fire yeah, oh yeah. I like that guy. 1659 01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:27,900 He was good. 1660 01:46:28,890 --> 01:46:34,230 Thank you cow man. That was awesome. James Cridland 2222 1661 01:46:34,230 --> 01:46:39,180 second shoes nice. Through the fountain nap. He just he just 1662 01:46:39,180 --> 01:46:40,320 says go podcasting. 1663 01:46:42,510 --> 01:46:43,170 James 1664 01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:45,540 James I want to hear the route booster grant. 1665 01:46:45,899 --> 01:46:49,859 Yes. Yeah, what's wrong with you man? Sounds 1666 01:46:49,860 --> 01:46:56,310 cool. See anonymous? No, that was me. You sent a bra. 1667 01:46:56,939 --> 01:46:58,229 You sent a rude booster gram 1668 01:46:58,559 --> 01:47:02,579 Yeah. Oh a cow. I don't know if this is called a bear or not. It 1669 01:47:02,579 --> 01:47:05,939 just says cow that he said love the work you guys are doing if 1670 01:47:05,939 --> 01:47:08,159 y'all want some fresh cranberries let me know I grow 1671 01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:09,179 them and it's harvest season. 1672 01:47:09,570 --> 01:47:12,540 Oh hell yeah. I'd love some cranberries. Definitely. 1673 01:47:12,750 --> 01:47:17,160 Definitely. That's one thing man podcasters and their listeners. 1674 01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:21,000 It's amazing how many homemade products you wind up with. I've 1675 01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:26,850 got everything from cheese that's homemade. To CBD solve to 1676 01:47:26,850 --> 01:47:30,300 holsters I mean this this there's nothing people don't 1677 01:47:30,300 --> 01:47:33,150 make I love it and they're always sharing that stuff. 1678 01:47:34,470 --> 01:47:37,770 Yeah, I love cranberries and it keeps the keeps the urinary 1679 01:47:37,770 --> 01:47:40,650 tract nice and clean. Right. 1680 01:47:40,979 --> 01:47:46,229 Okay. TMI TMI. 1681 01:47:46,979 --> 01:47:51,359 We get 100 set boost from anonymous through breeze and the 1682 01:47:51,359 --> 01:47:53,369 messages butthead. 1683 01:47:54,510 --> 01:47:55,320 Okay, thanks 1684 01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:58,500 okay. I don't know if he's talking about you or me but 1685 01:47:58,530 --> 01:47:58,980 whenever 1686 01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:03,510 it's alright. It makes one of us Beavis so I guess it's just as 1687 01:48:03,510 --> 01:48:03,990 bad 1688 01:48:06,180 --> 01:48:09,720 so blueberry sent me a note and he said that he sent what I 1689 01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:18,690 think is an 80,000 set what boost fat streaming but but I 1690 01:48:18,690 --> 01:48:22,350 don't he says he he says he's not sure if his note get 1691 01:48:22,350 --> 01:48:26,070 attached and I couldn't find it in my email. So I'm going to get 1692 01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:28,950 it. This happened before one time with Dred Scott and had to 1693 01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:30,180 get it to get in the database. 1694 01:48:30,660 --> 01:48:33,330 Did you find the payment or just not the note? 1695 01:48:34,139 --> 01:48:38,219 Found it I ended up finding it all. Oh, okay. And so I need to 1696 01:48:38,219 --> 01:48:40,829 dig for it. So this came in late Rob for the show. So I'm gonna 1697 01:48:40,829 --> 01:48:43,949 have to go look for that. I'll bring it next week. Okay. All 1698 01:48:43,949 --> 01:48:49,679 right. Monthly donors. The Supreme Leader of the pod verse 1699 01:48:49,679 --> 01:48:55,199 Miss Downey $10. Thank you, Mitch. Chris Shara, Barak, and, 1700 01:48:55,739 --> 01:48:59,639 Chris. I would love to for you to send me an email and tell me 1701 01:48:59,639 --> 01:49:02,669 where the name Chara Bart comes from? Because that's an 1702 01:49:02,669 --> 01:49:07,259 interesting name. $10. Jeremy Kavanaugh, no relation to the 1703 01:49:07,259 --> 01:49:11,909 Supreme Court Justice $10. Jeffrey Rutherford $5 Chris 1704 01:49:11,909 --> 01:49:17,249 Cowan $5 Oh, Alice gates, Sir Alex gates, the podcasting 2.0 1705 01:49:17,249 --> 01:49:18,749 consultant $25. 1706 01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:24,210 Is that I didn't know that was his his moniker. Yeah, 1707 01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:25,710 this is official title. Oh, 1708 01:49:26,130 --> 01:49:29,430 I love that. 2.0 consultant teams, right. I just need I need 1709 01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:32,100 to know when someone asked me I can say Well, I know a 1710 01:49:32,100 --> 01:49:36,300 consultant. I can hook you up with all my consultant buddies. 1711 01:49:36,300 --> 01:49:36,990 You kidding me? 1712 01:49:37,740 --> 01:49:40,530 David Norman $25. Fly for Dave. 1713 01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:41,970 How's it doing? 1714 01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:46,410 I don't know. He's, he just pipes in every now and then with 1715 01:49:46,410 --> 01:49:50,010 a little bit of love. Yeah. Okay. I feel like we need a 1716 01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,980 flint, some kind of Fletcher Piper catcher. 1717 01:49:53,970 --> 01:49:59,070 To make sure he's still alive. Just David has a pulse. He's got 1718 01:49:59,070 --> 01:50:00,870 a kid. He's barely You live Trust me. 1719 01:50:01,140 --> 01:50:04,860 That's true. Yeah. Derek j visca. Great name $21 Paul 1720 01:50:04,860 --> 01:50:06,960 Saltzman our buddy $2 I'm 1721 01:50:06,990 --> 01:50:08,190 always there. Thank you Paul. 1722 01:50:08,939 --> 01:50:15,479 Damon Cassie jack another great name. $15 Sean Miller $10 I feel 1723 01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:19,649 like I don't know what country he's from Sweden. Sweden. Is 1724 01:50:19,649 --> 01:50:23,279 that it? Okay. It's like sore sore and son of Odin. There's 1725 01:50:23,279 --> 01:50:25,319 some kind of like sore. What does the Oh have 1726 01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:29,910 a line through it? Yes. Okay, Sweden. Okay, just guess Jeremy 1727 01:50:30,030 --> 01:50:34,260 Jeremy Gertz fifth $5. And Thomas Sullivan, Jr. $5. 1728 01:50:34,770 --> 01:50:38,640 Wow. Thank you all. Thank you so much for keeping the project 1729 01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,700 moving forward. All we ever asked for is time talent 1730 01:50:41,700 --> 01:50:45,060 treasure. A lot of you brought all three. So appreciated love 1731 01:50:45,060 --> 01:50:48,780 the booster grams. You're seeing how it can be done. It works. 1732 01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:53,970 And you're all making it happy to happen. And we should all be 1733 01:50:54,330 --> 01:50:59,340 making little bits of pieces of satoshis I just love it. I love 1734 01:50:59,340 --> 01:51:02,280 it. I love it. I love that we're stalking a man. I can't say it 1735 01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:05,250 enough. What do we where do we start off with this show? What 1736 01:51:05,250 --> 01:51:05,940 was Bitcoin? 1737 01:51:06,899 --> 01:51:13,739 Oh 2016 16,000 that right? Now remember, it's 1738 01:51:13,740 --> 01:51:15,780 now 61,400 1739 01:51:16,860 --> 01:51:18,840 Oh, wow. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 1740 01:51:18,839 --> 01:51:22,289 Well, it crashed down again. Don't worry. Whatever you do, 1741 01:51:22,289 --> 01:51:28,439 don't get happy. That's not gonna be it. But you know, from 1742 01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,979 a technical perspective, I can see 73 and then 100 something 1743 01:51:33,540 --> 01:51:39,900 do you have in these pictures in the clip list? pictures. There's 1744 01:51:39,900 --> 01:51:43,800 an Adam Curry and Brett Weinstein. Oh, I do see Adam 1745 01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,080 Curry. Okay, so don't don't up in the Adam Curry. 1746 01:51:46,110 --> 01:51:48,390 Okay, I'm not I have not opened it. I'm closing it without 1747 01:51:48,390 --> 01:51:49,290 looking out. Okay, 1748 01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:52,469 open the Brett Weinstein red wine. These are just, I don't 1749 01:51:52,469 --> 01:51:56,279 remember how I got these. But these are from Google. Do you 1750 01:51:56,279 --> 01:52:00,119 see the description on the left the bio? American podcaster 1751 01:52:00,359 --> 01:52:03,029 Yeah, Brett Weinstein American podcast are now open the Adam 1752 01:52:03,029 --> 01:52:04,409 Curry and see what it says you are. 1753 01:52:06,570 --> 01:52:07,620 Okay. 1754 01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:14,280 Announcer 1755 01:52:18,570 --> 01:52:21,570 corner we've got Brett Weinstein, the American podcast. 1756 01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,600 Rock Bottom Korean. Let's go. 1757 01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,120 You are not a podcaster you're I'm an 1758 01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,730 announcer I don't know. I think that's kind of a step down. 1759 01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,320 Announcer sounds pretty lame. I 1760 01:52:34,950 --> 01:52:35,790 think it does. 1761 01:52:37,170 --> 01:52:42,060 Worse than MTV vj thanks Google for show sir. It's probably says 1762 01:52:42,060 --> 01:52:46,080 that I might Wikipedia or some crap like that. You're not 1763 01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:47,520 allowed to change yourself. 1764 01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:50,340 I gotta get back to work. Yeah, I 1765 01:52:50,340 --> 01:52:52,920 know. You've got to go save the world. Make sure that no one 1766 01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:55,950 pays too much tax. Dave, thank you so much for everything 1767 01:52:55,950 --> 01:52:58,440 you've been doing. Certainly in these past two months where I 1768 01:52:58,440 --> 01:53:02,190 know that you have you had a September 15 corporate tax 1769 01:53:02,190 --> 01:53:06,360 deadline and then the October 15. And, and you're so slick at 1770 01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:11,310 everything you do that I even forgot you had a job. It's true. 1771 01:53:11,340 --> 01:53:13,950 Yeah, it's true. I actually still have one that well and 1772 01:53:13,950 --> 01:53:16,530 I'm glad that families really thankful for that. 1773 01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:22,590 Yes. Brother, I hear you. You are the pod sage. Have a great 1774 01:53:22,590 --> 01:53:23,340 weekend. Dave. 1775 01:53:23,820 --> 01:53:25,530 Yeah, you too, man. I'll see you next time. 1776 01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:27,570 Alright, everybody, thanks for being here once again for the 1777 01:53:27,570 --> 01:53:31,380 board meeting podcast. 2.0 we return next week, bringing all 1778 01:53:31,380 --> 01:53:34,140 the latest it's happened with podcasting. 2.0 1779 01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:54,720 You have been listening to podcasting 2.0 visit podcast 1780 01:53:54,750 --> 01:54:00,150 index.com for more information. podcast 1781 01:54:01,470 --> 01:54:12,540 our downtown podcast Ring of Fire.