1 00:00:00,780 --> 00:00:07,200 podcasting 2.0 for November 2022, episode 111 pod Mali. 2 00:00:08,550 --> 00:00:12,540 Well, hello, everybody, welcome once again to the weekly board 3 00:00:12,540 --> 00:00:16,530 meeting of podcasting to point out that you find out what's 4 00:00:16,530 --> 00:00:18,810 going on. It's here that we find out what's going on. It's why 5 00:00:18,810 --> 00:00:21,780 it's a board meeting, let's all report to each other. See what's 6 00:00:21,780 --> 00:00:25,770 happening in podcast index.org, the namespace, lots of 7 00:00:25,770 --> 00:00:27,960 development going on with podcasting, and of course, 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,990 everything happening that's being discussed at podcast index 9 00:00:30,990 --> 00:00:33,510 dot social. I'm Adam curry here in the heart of the Texas Hill 10 00:00:33,510 --> 00:00:37,350 Country and in Alabama. Ladies, he's the dream of the Macedon 11 00:00:37,350 --> 00:00:42,030 scene. Say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. Dave Jones. 12 00:00:43,409 --> 00:00:45,869 I'm just gonna go ahead and take a victory lap on this Mastodon 13 00:00:45,869 --> 00:00:46,169 thing. 14 00:00:49,770 --> 00:00:53,490 Yeah, oh, it's sticking it sticking? You know what? You 15 00:00:53,490 --> 00:00:57,090 know who? Stan a sticky, huh. You know, you're gonna rub it my 16 00:00:57,090 --> 00:00:57,600 fix? 17 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:00,389 Okay. Yeah. 18 00:01:01,980 --> 00:01:06,630 You know, it's been fascinating to watch. It's journalists who 19 00:01:06,630 --> 00:01:10,950 are sticking? Yeah, they're setting up their own instances. 20 00:01:10,950 --> 00:01:13,380 And they're doing all kinds of you know, and they're trying to 21 00:01:13,380 --> 00:01:17,730 figure it out. And, and you listen, you listen to 22 00:01:18,060 --> 00:01:20,370 journalists speaking on different podcasts. And there's, 23 00:01:20,490 --> 00:01:22,140 there's definitely a lot who are saying, well, it's really 24 00:01:22,140 --> 00:01:24,960 unusable. You have no algorithm, you can trick the algorithm to 25 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:28,380 get everybody to see my stuff. So it's useless. It's useless, 26 00:01:28,380 --> 00:01:31,920 I'll tell you. But then you see the end. This is very much like 27 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:36,540 my one of my favorite news podcast is called the news 28 00:01:36,540 --> 00:01:39,630 agents thing. We've talked about it and never heard it. Oh, it's 29 00:01:39,630 --> 00:01:45,240 a bunch of British journalists who are well known journalists 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,330 who have interviewed the the big of the big ones of the earth. 31 00:01:48,750 --> 00:01:53,070 And they kind of discuss the news. With some, maybe they have 32 00:01:53,070 --> 00:01:55,740 a little snippet of an interview or some reporting from one of 33 00:01:55,740 --> 00:01:59,190 their people on the scene or whatever. But it's basically 34 00:01:59,190 --> 00:02:03,180 just a conference call. And they talk about what's happening from 35 00:02:03,180 --> 00:02:05,550 their perspective. So it's kind of the stuff that you would 36 00:02:05,550 --> 00:02:08,970 never hear about, it's happening in the newsroom. And it's 37 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,600 because it's British politics. It's fun, because, you know, I 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,520 have a lot to learn this American politics with British 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,450 news, I should say. And so that's kind of the vibe that I'm 40 00:02:21,450 --> 00:02:25,650 getting from these journalists groups who are setting up their 41 00:02:25,650 --> 00:02:30,690 own instances to learn from the journos jet journo dot host, I 42 00:02:30,690 --> 00:02:36,480 think is one and now it's the typical schmucks who are driving 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,710 it, you know, all props to Jeff Jarvis. Jeff Jarvis. Yes, he's 44 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:44,190 me. He's, he's he is, if you said show me a schmuck is Jeff. 45 00:02:44,220 --> 00:02:47,190 Jeff Jarvis. I don't know why I don't know the man personally. 46 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,590 They have been on the show with him on a panel with him once. 47 00:02:50,130 --> 00:02:53,700 What is the what is the definition of a schmuck, 48 00:02:53,730 --> 00:02:57,360 schmuck? Like, what does that actually mean? Does that have a 49 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,240 real like a real defined definition that goes back in 50 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:00,570 time? 51 00:03:05,310 --> 00:03:09,270 Let's see schmuck definition. Here we go. A foolish or 52 00:03:09,330 --> 00:03:14,370 contemptible person is the first definition that pops up. 53 00:03:15,810 --> 00:03:18,180 Like it's Hebrew in origin, like it's Oh, yeah. Oh, 54 00:03:18,180 --> 00:03:25,710 no. yudishe? I would say, yes, it is. Yes, it is. 100% Do not 55 00:03:25,710 --> 00:03:28,590 be the poor schmuck who runs out of gas and is stranded when a 56 00:03:28,590 --> 00:03:32,790 natural disaster is about to hit. Wow, that's a pretty clear 57 00:03:32,790 --> 00:03:37,290 definition right there. Or be Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's 58 00:03:37,290 --> 00:03:39,660 not what you want to be. And don't, don't be the poor schmuck 59 00:03:39,660 --> 00:03:43,710 who runs his own Mastodon server, with only like 10 gigs 60 00:03:43,710 --> 00:03:44,370 of disk space. 61 00:03:44,609 --> 00:03:47,819 Well, everyone's going to learn and their services. I mean, 62 00:03:47,819 --> 00:03:51,149 we've been running on Mastodon hosts since day one. And, you 63 00:03:51,149 --> 00:03:54,749 know, we I upgraded to bigger services and searchable because, 64 00:03:54,779 --> 00:03:59,039 you know, of course, you got to pay for more, more CPU power and 65 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:02,309 some disk space. But we've got a nice little community, what do 66 00:04:02,309 --> 00:04:06,359 we have maybe 1000 people on? How many people do we have on 67 00:04:06,359 --> 00:04:06,929 the instant 68 00:04:06,930 --> 00:04:09,450 more than that? Oh, really? It's more than that. I think it's 69 00:04:09,450 --> 00:04:12,540 like, we lose like 1200 I think, 70 00:04:13,710 --> 00:04:19,290 okay. You get much bigger, like, no agenda is capped at 10,000. 71 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,700 And it's real work for Matt, you know, he's doing real work, 72 00:04:23,790 --> 00:04:26,700 keeping that thing running, making sure there's no, you 73 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:29,070 know, the vulnerabilities because of course, there are 74 00:04:29,070 --> 00:04:30,810 vulnerabilities always. 75 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,570 Yeah, it's a full time job shoved into a part time job. 76 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,580 Pretty much. Yeah. Into a hobby, 77 00:04:35,610 --> 00:04:41,100 more or less. Yeah. But yeah, and the fun thing is to watch 78 00:04:41,940 --> 00:04:47,160 people like Dave Weiner go, does all this were like, oh, yeah, 79 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,270 has been around for 10 years. 80 00:04:49,140 --> 00:04:54,900 Yes. Welcome to Yeah, welcome to 2012. I can't find that there's 81 00:04:54,900 --> 00:04:57,420 a page on here somewhere that shows what how many users you 82 00:04:57,420 --> 00:04:58,050 can, and I 83 00:04:58,050 --> 00:05:00,900 can Yeah, I'm looking forward to I see What is this? 84 00:05:01,260 --> 00:05:03,420 I tried slash about that active 85 00:05:03,420 --> 00:05:08,880 use about 301 active users today. Today. 86 00:05:10,380 --> 00:05:14,340 Oh, that's active just today just like, posted or something. 87 00:05:14,340 --> 00:05:18,030 I don't know. I think it was like 1200. But let me how much 88 00:05:18,030 --> 00:05:23,010 do we pay for this? What's the what's the cost right now? I 89 00:05:23,010 --> 00:05:24,720 think podcast index dot social. 90 00:05:25,259 --> 00:05:29,039 I think it's 20 bucks. 29 bucks. 91 00:05:29,490 --> 00:05:31,200 Is that it? Much? 92 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,280 I think so. I mean, I'd have I'd have to check my bill. 93 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,750 The bill and it's like, 150. Well, here 94 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:42,720 pricing. Let's take a look at what they got. Now, man, where 95 00:05:42,750 --> 00:05:48,330 we have the Yeah, we have the star level because you have moon 96 00:05:48,330 --> 00:05:54,990 planet and star. Now, we started with the nine month $9 per month 97 00:05:54,990 --> 00:05:59,430 planet. Although I think then it was five euros. Inflation 98 00:05:59,430 --> 00:06:04,320 people? Yeah, the $19 a month star, which gives you medium 99 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:09,480 Federation capacity, whatever that means. Processing. Oh, 100 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:15,000 eight processing threads. Okay. 10 gigabytes of database, 100 101 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:21,570 gigabytes of media storage. And 100 active users. Oops. 100. Oh, 102 00:06:21,570 --> 00:06:25,140 no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, we're 103 00:06:25,140 --> 00:06:30,000 here. Here we are. We're in the galaxy. I'm sorry. No, 104 00:06:30,300 --> 00:06:33,840 constellation galaxy. That's the highest. That's at nine a month. 105 00:06:34,530 --> 00:06:35,700 So we're at 90 a month. 106 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:40,439 We're at 90 bucks a month shoot. That's on my my credit card. 107 00:06:41,340 --> 00:06:46,230 Yes. I have a sneaking suspicion that you have not been paying 108 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:50,100 attention to this. This is based on prior experience with how 109 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:54,870 Adam looks. Which is basically you don't until it gets 110 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:57,510 shockingly high. And then you're like, Oh, crap. 111 00:06:57,540 --> 00:07:01,920 That's right. Well, that's usually the AWS Bill was like, 112 00:07:01,980 --> 00:07:05,520 wow, it's like $1,000. Dave, what can we do about this? 113 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,570 Yeah, it's like, it's like, oh, it's been it's been five or 600 114 00:07:09,570 --> 00:07:11,430 for a few months. And now it's just getting ridiculous. I'm 115 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:13,770 like, Whoa, 500 is already ridiculous, brother. 116 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,300 This is why I'm not a billionaire. 117 00:07:20,130 --> 00:07:24,240 That was my entire reason for bringing that bringing this make 118 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,260 you go and check your credit card stuff. But you know, there 119 00:07:28,260 --> 00:07:31,590 really needs to be some sort of light. There needs to be an in 120 00:07:31,590 --> 00:07:37,560 between. There needs to be something that is is what's that 121 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,200 thing you showed me last week was pinafore that needs to be 122 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,410 something that's that's just that's just the interface. Yeah, 123 00:07:43,470 --> 00:07:47,970 yeah, there needs to be something between pinafore and 124 00:07:47,970 --> 00:07:53,670 Mastodon and like that, where it's just where you take like 125 00:07:53,670 --> 00:07:57,240 something very simplistic like a radio to or a freedom controller 126 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,520 type thing. And you just be just you just put in a, an activity 127 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,410 pub, your module to it, 128 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,560 you make it look like Macedon on the on the front end like the 129 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,250 pinafore, 130 00:08:08,550 --> 00:08:11,850 something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Because then you don't you don't 131 00:08:11,850 --> 00:08:12,810 worry about like, 132 00:08:13,620 --> 00:08:16,740 cross and it's called cross app comments. I'm awaiting for two 133 00:08:16,740 --> 00:08:17,310 years. 134 00:08:19,980 --> 00:08:23,160 Comments across app comments done right. Could turn every 135 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,290 podcast app into a mastodon, or TC MainActivity pub client app? 136 00:08:28,350 --> 00:08:31,050 Absolutely. I've been I've been waiting for it. I mean, I'm 137 00:08:31,050 --> 00:08:32,310 growing cobwebs here 138 00:08:36,270 --> 00:08:41,610 yeah, that's that makes me Well, that brings up a little item 139 00:08:41,610 --> 00:08:43,320 that I have on my legal pad here. 140 00:08:43,350 --> 00:08:46,830 Oh, yeah. Which is yellow legal pad. 141 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,010 Oh, yes. Yellow. Can you get only one talk? Can 142 00:08:50,010 --> 00:08:53,100 you get? Can you get the notepads? Because I cannot get 143 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:54,780 them? They can't get them in yellow anymore. You know, the 144 00:08:54,780 --> 00:08:57,300 ones that I mean? It's like the it's not the legal pad, but it's 145 00:08:57,300 --> 00:09:01,290 kind of looks like a tablet. Yeah. Can you get those in 146 00:09:01,290 --> 00:09:04,980 yellow for me? Yeah, can you take some some of the office? 147 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:11,520 They're positive anymore. Do you want to read stapler? Can you 148 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:12,030 give me a red 149 00:09:12,030 --> 00:09:13,860 slave copier paper? 150 00:09:15,210 --> 00:09:18,120 Just now I can't get any. You can't even get an Amazon. It's 151 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:18,630 not. 152 00:09:19,109 --> 00:09:22,499 This one is like from the 70s. It's 153 00:09:22,889 --> 00:09:26,099 that's the kind of like that's exactly the kind of like, you 154 00:09:26,099 --> 00:09:28,859 got that little margin on the left hand side. You can write 155 00:09:28,859 --> 00:09:31,049 some doodle shit in there. And then you got 156 00:09:31,050 --> 00:09:34,590 your liable red double line that goes down the left hand 157 00:09:34,590 --> 00:09:36,360 beautiful thing, analog baby. 158 00:09:38,790 --> 00:09:43,920 You know, this whole Mastodon thing makes me think and we 159 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:49,590 discussed this briefly last week. This idea that the people 160 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:55,440 are now podcasters are now in the mastodon soup, the activity 161 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,700 pubs soup, without knowing that they're in it. 162 00:09:59,730 --> 00:10:03,030 I will Wish we had cross app comments ready? We would be 163 00:10:03,030 --> 00:10:05,520 blowing people's minds right now. Sorry. 164 00:10:05,910 --> 00:10:08,430 Well, that's what I'm that's that's what I'm trying to say 165 00:10:08,430 --> 00:10:16,530 is. So if you had if you're a host, this, this is for podcast 166 00:10:16,530 --> 00:10:22,980 hosts. If your hosting company, you could imagine immediate win 167 00:10:22,980 --> 00:10:28,560 with cross app comments by doing a connection, an OAuth 168 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:33,090 connection. Yeah, you're so right into your UI, say, Oh, do 169 00:10:33,090 --> 00:10:37,260 you have a mastodon account? Because Mastodon is popular 170 00:10:37,260 --> 00:10:38,130 enough now? 171 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,560 Yeah. Looked at looked at journos here. Yes, the girl 172 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:44,370 there journos? 173 00:10:48,990 --> 00:10:54,450 There's one right there. If you if you had if you had this 174 00:10:54,450 --> 00:10:57,810 interface like oh, do you have Mastodon connect your Mastodon 175 00:10:57,990 --> 00:11:02,760 to your podcast hosting account? Yeah. And then whenever you put 176 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,910 in makeup, whenever you make a post, it will automatically 177 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:10,920 cross post over to Mastodon to your account. Yeah. And suck the 178 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,090 URL back in as 179 00:11:12,090 --> 00:11:18,060 a post. That's Wait, that's another one that another journal 180 00:11:18,210 --> 00:11:19,710 got what? Got him? 181 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:28,320 This is this. Some people may not know that. 182 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,370 But that just makes perfect, by the way and who have you already 183 00:11:32,430 --> 00:11:34,080 threatened that they have to do this? 184 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,590 This was the initial thrust. Okay, 185 00:11:37,620 --> 00:11:40,530 you heard our AK right people. That's when we do have 186 00:11:40,530 --> 00:11:46,590 journalists gunfire. We have gunfire at our disposal. If you 187 00:11:46,590 --> 00:11:51,300 go to like bullying people in podcasting, yeah, this is highly 188 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:53,610 effective. Wonders. 189 00:11:55,140 --> 00:11:57,120 Based on this track record this essentially. 190 00:12:00,690 --> 00:12:01,860 Anybody are secrets? 191 00:12:02,310 --> 00:12:07,740 Yeah. Right. It's it's more it's more like it's a combination of 192 00:12:08,250 --> 00:12:10,260 spoiling and badgering. Yes. 193 00:12:10,290 --> 00:12:13,230 Like that is a bit of the New International lifestyle. Have 194 00:12:13,230 --> 00:12:17,010 you ever heard Dvorak excoriate the donors? Yes. 195 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:21,900 Which is funny, by the way, love it. It's just like, it's like 196 00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:25,110 cats. The more you the more you you know, abused them, the more 197 00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:29,910 they love you, this journalist or the media, abusing them where 198 00:12:29,910 --> 00:12:30,390 they love you. 199 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,420 Maybe one day we'll get rich off of this idea, then Dave, 200 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:37,890 nothing's worked so far. very doubtful. 201 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,000 This is the most this is on par for all of our projects. When it 202 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:42,720 comes to find out. 203 00:12:43,890 --> 00:12:47,310 We have only person that gets rich by abusing journalists is 204 00:12:47,310 --> 00:12:50,700 Donald Trump. I think that's the fan Elon Musk is giving. 205 00:12:51,270 --> 00:12:55,440 Right? Alright, so I'm sorry to interrupt you. But yes, now's 206 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,590 the time. You're absolutely it's not is it? This relatively easy 207 00:12:58,590 --> 00:12:59,340 to do, right? 208 00:13:00,540 --> 00:13:02,550 Well, I mean, we did and freedom with trailers has got to be 209 00:13:02,550 --> 00:13:03,690 easy. It can't be that hard. 210 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,940 Yeah, that's right. Controlling you just it's the Oh off you 211 00:13:08,940 --> 00:13:12,180 just post and boom, they're done. And that spits back the 212 00:13:12,180 --> 00:13:14,040 URL? Yeah, of course. It spits back the URL. 213 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,430 Yep. Yep. And there's an OAuth handshake that song and dance 214 00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:20,430 that can happen and you drop it right just bounce it around and 215 00:13:20,430 --> 00:13:26,220 you're done. Yeah. This this is an instant win to me yeah. What 216 00:13:26,490 --> 00:13:29,970 I would expect the will say cat will cast upon did a different 217 00:13:30,390 --> 00:13:32,640 and went a different route they baked activity portfolio into 218 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,330 their into their into their system but if you're like us, 219 00:13:37,110 --> 00:13:40,920 you know who you know who will who will probably do this. Of 220 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:46,140 course, other than Steven B which is probably already dying 221 00:13:46,170 --> 00:13:54,030 by the time but Dobie das over RSS blue this is this is right 222 00:13:54,030 --> 00:13:58,980 up his ride right he loads dive into loads of stuff. Yep. So 223 00:13:59,430 --> 00:14:00,810 that puts somebody do that 224 00:14:00,810 --> 00:14:05,370 just I mean, what is so cool is this interrupt that's happening, 225 00:14:05,370 --> 00:14:08,790 man that that that is what's so interesting to watch and I don't 226 00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:13,590 think it's lost on the technology crowd on the tech. 227 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:18,480 The tech journos is lost on them they don't they don't it's 228 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:24,300 really beautiful. I am so surprised I just I didn't expect 229 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:31,020 this to happen but the part of it's the just whatever people in 230 00:14:31,020 --> 00:14:34,200 their mind had a go I'm gonna leave or I need a backup or 231 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,380 whatever it was they came to Macedon I expected so many to 232 00:14:37,380 --> 00:14:41,490 drop off many did of course because and some journals I've 233 00:14:41,490 --> 00:14:43,470 been listening to him like they're not getting the dopamine 234 00:14:43,470 --> 00:14:47,070 hit. But most people are like wow, this is really in use net. 235 00:14:47,100 --> 00:14:50,190 You know, this has a very heavy Usenet vibe. 236 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,270 I don't think that is going to replace Twitter. No, it's 237 00:14:54,450 --> 00:14:56,640 completely different. That's the whole point additive. 238 00:14:56,670 --> 00:14:59,730 I think it's additive. Yeah, you because you're gonna have the 239 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,930 What you realize when you're on Mastodon or you're in the Fed 240 00:15:03,930 --> 00:15:06,840 versus the Fed versus when you're in the Fed averse, you 241 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,440 realize that your signal to noise ratio is so much higher. 242 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:15,510 Yeah. And so you end up having you, you have quality 243 00:15:15,510 --> 00:15:21,540 conversations there. Whereas, so you but you don't necessarily 244 00:15:21,540 --> 00:15:25,050 abandon Twitter, you, you have to go back to Twitter to get 245 00:15:25,050 --> 00:15:30,600 certain types of like news. But then you're relieved to get to 246 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,900 then close the tab in your browser and go back to mass. 247 00:15:34,259 --> 00:15:37,589 But Mastodon is you get to the message you've seen before 248 00:15:37,589 --> 00:15:41,489 you're done. There's nothing left to do. You can you can try 249 00:15:41,489 --> 00:15:44,669 and click the other tab or certain point you've seen it all 250 00:15:44,669 --> 00:15:49,739 and the algos not going to spit anything new back at you. So the 251 00:15:49,739 --> 00:15:54,179 30 and and also like there's a there's a visualization of the 252 00:15:54,179 --> 00:16:00,089 fediverse. And you can someone posted that I think on I think 253 00:16:00,089 --> 00:16:05,939 on no agenda social, maybe it was Matt. And you can see that 254 00:16:05,939 --> 00:16:09,809 we are definitely with no agenda social is definitely somewhat 255 00:16:09,809 --> 00:16:14,189 separated from the larger Fetty out there, because of the 256 00:16:14,189 --> 00:16:17,819 blocklists. But we but are only the universe is kind of like 257 00:16:17,819 --> 00:16:22,679 this, this ulcerous growth that's hanging off, hanging off 258 00:16:22,679 --> 00:16:28,739 of the grow. That's malignant, clearly, that's hanging off the 259 00:16:28,739 --> 00:16:33,029 main glob. And if you zoom in, there's a lot going on in that 260 00:16:33,029 --> 00:16:35,849 glob. I mean, there's a lot of stuff. When was that? I think it 261 00:16:35,849 --> 00:16:41,759 must have been? I'm pretty sure it was. It wasn't mad at Aaron 262 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:47,849 or I should say. Anyways, it's yeah, you're right. I am just 263 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:53,069 really, really surprised at how this is picked up. And yeah, 264 00:16:53,069 --> 00:16:56,009 man, we totally need to take advantage of this. 265 00:16:56,820 --> 00:17:00,960 What if what would be great to see happen, and I think this can 266 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:06,330 happen is that you would have certain certain podcast hosts 267 00:17:06,690 --> 00:17:12,000 that would that would do a connector type deal. No off 268 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,720 connector to an existing account and then other hosts that would 269 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,110 just go in full bore make their make a commenting system and 270 00:17:19,110 --> 00:17:23,880 then federate that out with activity pub. Right. There's a 271 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,530 lot of hosting companies that are Ruby based, that are Ruby on 272 00:17:28,530 --> 00:17:33,060 Rails based it's I don't know why they're, that's, I don't 273 00:17:33,060 --> 00:17:34,020 know why that's the thing. But 274 00:17:34,110 --> 00:17:39,600 that was that was very modern back in the days of early days 275 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,050 of blogging, Twitter, podcasting, I think what's kind 276 00:17:43,050 --> 00:17:48,960 of invoke, in fact, I remember was the thing with VCs, you, you 277 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,160 build rubies or Ruby on Rails? Believe it or not, 278 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,870 it probably probably came because of the podcasting 279 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,900 demographic, the early podcast demographic was, you know, that 280 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:07,500 MAC MAC oriented, and I think there's a lot of Ruby on Rails 281 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:11,340 connections with Mac, right? based companies because I think 282 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:16,170 it came out of panic and it has, like, bus browser, Ruby on Rails 283 00:18:16,170 --> 00:18:19,350 based and Tom told me the history of at one time, it just 284 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,940 seemed very much tied to like a whole Mac culture and, but but 285 00:18:23,940 --> 00:18:28,140 as but you know, mass like Mastodon is a Ruby on Rails app. 286 00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:33,660 And it just seems like there's a lot of it seems like there's a 287 00:18:33,660 --> 00:18:38,220 lot of overlap cross pollination between activity pub, the world 288 00:18:38,220 --> 00:18:41,850 of activity pub in the world of podcasting. And like, I see them 289 00:18:41,850 --> 00:18:48,450 as a natural as a net sort of a natural marriage. It's just, it 290 00:18:48,450 --> 00:18:51,420 just feels right to me. And so you could have some, some 291 00:18:51,420 --> 00:18:54,930 companies that this a or some hosting companies that say, Oh, 292 00:18:54,930 --> 00:18:57,510 well, you know, look at all these we get all this activity 293 00:18:57,510 --> 00:19:01,740 pub, Ruby gyms and all this code this gets here, let's just let's 294 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:04,980 just run with it and go straight off. You know, that'd be great. 295 00:19:05,010 --> 00:19:07,860 I'm, of course, rejecting my own desires here. 296 00:19:07,860 --> 00:19:11,610 I love it. Hey, go to Fetty verse dot space. 297 00:19:12,510 --> 00:19:18,330 Oh, then he verse does space. Maybe we need a dot space for 298 00:19:18,330 --> 00:19:19,170 the stats 299 00:19:19,919 --> 00:19:24,659 like that. By the way, I liked that little JSON thing that you 300 00:19:24,659 --> 00:19:29,159 spit out there. The stats thing? Yes. Cool. So if you so you see 301 00:19:29,159 --> 00:19:34,799 the you see the cloud space right you type in no social.com 302 00:19:35,879 --> 00:19:36,539 And then 303 00:19:36,780 --> 00:19:38,910 is it all by itself? Nobody will federate with it. 304 00:19:38,939 --> 00:19:42,419 You'll get to zoom in one click and you'll see real up in the 305 00:19:42,419 --> 00:19:45,449 top way the top of the cloud there's there's the little no 306 00:19:45,449 --> 00:19:46,949 agenda social is 307 00:19:48,060 --> 00:19:49,860 on an island but oh, it's totally 308 00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:54,510 and if you zoom in, I mean, it's connected to a lot of stuff. But 309 00:19:54,510 --> 00:20:00,120 it's definitely is not connected to everything. I don't know but 310 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:04,650 only see podcasts. It's incredible to watch this podcast 311 00:20:05,940 --> 00:20:11,700 is not worrying about social justice something my fediverse 312 00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:13,740 Does space is something went wrong. 313 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:20,760 One of those helpful errors all right is anyway. Hey, yeah, it's 314 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,340 something really wonderful happened 315 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:25,920 that detail 316 00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:35,820 CSB. Comic Strip blogger has been now most a lot of people 317 00:20:35,820 --> 00:20:40,350 here, met him through this project and have learned to 318 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:49,320 understand him. He's been around me for since man, early days 319 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,110 daily source code I don't even remember. I mean, so we're 320 00:20:52,110 --> 00:20:56,670 talking probably more than we're talking more than 1516 years 321 00:20:56,700 --> 00:21:01,380 long time. 17 years, maybe even longer. And it's always been 322 00:21:01,380 --> 00:21:07,860 very adversarial. I can't help but and he just has a we have 323 00:21:07,860 --> 00:21:12,720 met him once before. In person in London. Yep. So we met once. 324 00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:16,890 And otherwise he's just been you know, just kind of this always 325 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:20,400 saying what I perceive to be rude things, you know, calling 326 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,880 me out on stuff that he thinks is wrong. Tell me I'm full of 327 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:29,460 shit, you know. But then. So he really drove the adoption of the 328 00:21:29,460 --> 00:21:34,050 no agenda album artists. We do a new piece of album art every 329 00:21:34,050 --> 00:21:39,630 single show and no agenda art generator.com people compete to 330 00:21:39,630 --> 00:21:43,320 be chosen. And of course that'll all of their work eventually 331 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,140 might appear in the chapter image art so it's a fantastic 332 00:21:46,170 --> 00:21:49,620 ecosystem. And we give them credit we talked about it we 333 00:21:49,620 --> 00:21:53,070 talked about the choice on the show and Commissioner blogger 334 00:21:53,070 --> 00:21:57,330 really drove the idea of getting these artists into getting a get 335 00:21:57,330 --> 00:22:04,470 Alby wallet and putting their get Alby address, you know their 336 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,240 their get Alby or whatever username I'd get allday.com into 337 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:16,290 their profile. And so I started actually, the last three or four 338 00:22:16,290 --> 00:22:18,930 that we've chosen already had one, so they've gotten to 10% 339 00:22:18,930 --> 00:22:23,460 Split have no agendas, booths and streams, and comics or 340 00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:29,190 Blogger, he was one of the last four. And so he posted on 341 00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:33,210 podcast index dot socialist, and it was really, really nice to 342 00:22:33,210 --> 00:22:37,020 hear this from him. And it meant a lot to me, he says how the AC 343 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,900 thumbs up emoji. Oh, now that I'm in the value for value split 344 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:46,890 for the latest episode, I finally and deeply understand 345 00:22:46,890 --> 00:22:50,820 why you are so passionate about Satoshi streaming per minute and 346 00:22:50,820 --> 00:22:53,790 other part of the for V apart from boosts and booster grams. 347 00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:57,150 It gives the impression of intimate connection with the 348 00:22:57,150 --> 00:23:00,300 listeners. It informs that people actually listen to the 349 00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:03,120 podcasts and not merely downloaded but maybe never 350 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,840 listened like I do with some podcast. It's truly astonishing. 351 00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:08,550 It's an awesome feeling. 352 00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:12,330 That's a That's a beautiful note, 353 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:18,540 isn't it and from him. So that's the feeling that I tried to 354 00:23:18,540 --> 00:23:22,890 explain to people is when you see that, and honestly if you 355 00:23:22,890 --> 00:23:27,270 use the get Alby the Saturn stats package, you can watch 356 00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:31,800 stuff coming in live. It's something about it. I mean, we 357 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:37,140 we have those, you know, one sat, transaction splits that we 358 00:23:37,140 --> 00:23:40,260 get for the index. Sometimes I'll just sit there. I'll open 359 00:23:40,260 --> 00:23:44,010 up zap zap wallet that does a good job. And I'll just hit on 360 00:23:44,010 --> 00:23:47,880 the recent transactions. You just watch it flow in. Now I'm 361 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,120 walking. I'm watching like micro pieces of a penny. But it's like 362 00:23:51,330 --> 00:23:53,310 someone listened for a minute someone listen for it. Oh, 363 00:23:53,310 --> 00:23:56,130 that's probably a boost. Oh, that one booster gram. So when 364 00:23:56,130 --> 00:23:58,500 listened from and it's just, I can't believe it. You're 365 00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:00,270 watching people. Listen. 366 00:24:02,010 --> 00:24:05,610 That makes sense. So it's it's a dopamine. It's dopamine hit? 367 00:24:05,910 --> 00:24:11,070 Yes. Oh, yeah. I mean, not in the not in the bad way. Like in 368 00:24:11,070 --> 00:24:16,950 the it's a dopamine hit. I mean, not we that that whole idea has 369 00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:20,610 been sort of poo pooed like, oh, that's just a dopamine hit. I 370 00:24:20,610 --> 00:24:25,410 mean, like social medias. But, you know, I mean, it's not like, 371 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,010 it's a bad thing in and of itself. It's not objectively 372 00:24:29,010 --> 00:24:33,750 bad, to head to feel a sense of reward and excitement for a 373 00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:37,050 thing that's happening in your life. I mean, dopamine hit is 374 00:24:37,050 --> 00:24:40,740 not all bad. And so like when you when you produce something, 375 00:24:40,740 --> 00:24:43,380 stick it out on the world and then and then the little 376 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,520 dopamine hits coming are coming back to you in this in the form 377 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,330 of value. 378 00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:52,380 Yeah, this is a different kind of dopamine hit. Yeah, yeah, 379 00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:57,840 it's not because it's making you angry or making you anxious or 380 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,250 pissed off or controversial. No, it's love. It's love. 381 00:25:02,970 --> 00:25:05,160 It is. It's love coin. 382 00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:12,600 It's MDMA. It's podcast. Pod. Um, write this down podcast 383 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,310 Molly is what it is basically 384 00:25:20,190 --> 00:25:23,040 that's that sounds like somebody from only fans podcasts. 385 00:25:24,330 --> 00:25:28,170 Don't do this. I'm thinking title. I don't know about you. 386 00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:32,250 Like as Molly. I don't. That's yeah, no, I think I think that's 387 00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:36,210 the waiting. I think that's a good it's what it is does 388 00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:40,710 associate that's that's one of those great uses where you see 389 00:25:41,070 --> 00:25:45,510 technology making your life actually better and not just 390 00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:47,130 feeling the outrage machine 391 00:25:47,490 --> 00:25:51,180 just making you happy just when you see it. Even people 392 00:25:51,180 --> 00:25:54,720 that write that write you even people that are ugly to you in a 393 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,190 booster gram still makes you happy. 394 00:25:56,910 --> 00:26:01,620 I know. And you can and I love giving you know James and Sam 395 00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:04,680 and all kinds and Todd love giving them shit and sending the 396 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,000 money for it. Hey, let me give you some shit. Here's 25,000 397 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,430 Satoshis talk smack at you. 398 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,400 Yeah, no, it's it's a lovely things. But that. Speaking of 399 00:26:17,460 --> 00:26:25,560 well lately, on CSB this this note also firmly confirms my 400 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,610 suspicion is CSP has a much better or command of the English 401 00:26:29,610 --> 00:26:31,620 language than he likes to pretend that he does. 402 00:26:33,330 --> 00:26:36,240 May have been correcting some of his English on the fly. 403 00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:38,370 Oh, okay, I got you. All right. 404 00:26:39,660 --> 00:26:44,280 Now he's the real deal, man. He's the he's the that's it. He 405 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,420 is what he is. He's the real deal. I just want I'm sorry. 406 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,520 No, no, no, by all means. 407 00:26:50,550 --> 00:26:54,300 Well, I had a kind of a weird thing happened that feels like a 408 00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:58,560 bug, but I'm not sure. But I want to make mention of it for 409 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,270 the Opie three community. Are you down with Opie three 410 00:27:03,270 --> 00:27:08,880 community? I love following the conversations. I've no interest 411 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,510 whatsoever in the results personally. But I do love. Well, 412 00:27:12,510 --> 00:27:16,590 that's not true. I love learning about you know how this project 413 00:27:16,590 --> 00:27:19,620 is basically kind of forcing people to take a look at the 414 00:27:19,620 --> 00:27:23,670 referral agents make sure that everything is set properly. So 415 00:27:23,670 --> 00:27:26,250 we're getting better counts, I think it may be shaking up some 416 00:27:26,250 --> 00:27:28,770 players in the industry who may or may not want to implement 417 00:27:28,770 --> 00:27:34,290 this in their own software. Who knows, you know, other 418 00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:37,020 interesting things that are taking place. And here's 419 00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:40,320 something that happened. And I don't know exactly where the 420 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,220 problem is, but it may be something that op three could 421 00:27:44,250 --> 00:27:48,300 should be aware of. And that is the last no agenda show I 422 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:52,980 published. Everything was fine. And then I was alerted to the 423 00:27:52,980 --> 00:27:58,080 fact that I had not put the ID three tags into the mp3 file, 424 00:27:58,590 --> 00:28:02,670 which I typically do. And mainly the main thing being the image 425 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,060 if you don't make the image and there's a number of podcast 426 00:28:06,060 --> 00:28:09,030 players out there, which will not show the image, even though 427 00:28:09,030 --> 00:28:13,440 it's in the channel, RSS channel, feed all that stuff. 428 00:28:13,890 --> 00:28:17,790 It's just that just happens to so of course, alright. Oh, okay, 429 00:28:17,790 --> 00:28:20,040 that's kind of dumb, too. I wanted in there. So I go back, I 430 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,400 bake it properly. Now I've learned that the best way to do 431 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,820 it is to delete and then upload the new one. And that goes 432 00:28:26,820 --> 00:28:27,630 pretty quickly. 433 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,870 And then that breaks the cache. 434 00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:36,510 That breaks the cache and it's just never been a problem. And 435 00:28:36,510 --> 00:28:39,000 I've had to I've had to replace files. It's never been a 436 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,510 problem. Google podcasts shit the bed? 437 00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:46,860 Oh, no. Well, at least that's only 2% of the 438 00:28:46,890 --> 00:28:51,660 more than I thought more more people than I thought it more 439 00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:55,140 than dog catcher, but not much. But like say double dog catcher. 440 00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:58,770 A double document your double the dogs that maybe see Yeah, 441 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,770 maybe 1213 People immediately ask what's wrong with you? Why 442 00:29:04,770 --> 00:29:07,920 are you using Google podcasts? Yes, stop. Just stop it. Stop 443 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:15,990 it. Yeah. Why would you do like being old fashioned? Yeah. But I 444 00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:19,320 even had some some very kind listeners, delete the app and 445 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,870 reinstall it. And still it wouldn't work. Even though if 446 00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:26,490 you went to if you went to Google podcasts on the web, it 447 00:29:26,490 --> 00:29:30,210 was there fine and played fine. So there's something with the 448 00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:34,110 Google app. And I don't know. I don't know if the Google 449 00:29:34,110 --> 00:29:38,730 podcasts app. Yes. I wonder if they're, if they're caching 450 00:29:38,730 --> 00:29:40,770 something somewhere, because that's kind of what it felt like 451 00:29:40,770 --> 00:29:43,140 to me. And I don't understand and that could be in the app, 452 00:29:43,140 --> 00:29:46,200 but if it's at some, some head end or something that could 453 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,800 affect the numbers people are looking at. 454 00:29:50,850 --> 00:29:54,300 I can't imagine what that would actually be. So when you 455 00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:59,730 replaced the enclosure, it had a different file name, file name. 456 00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:05,430 Same for I can't imagine what that could possibly be Google 457 00:30:06,330 --> 00:30:09,810 unless, and the only thing I can 458 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,930 write, but just I just thought I'd throw it out there. 459 00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:17,610 Now now that you know these things like things like this 460 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,750 oddities like this bother me mentally, the only thing I could 461 00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:25,860 imagine is that somehow they're doing some sort of pass. They're 462 00:30:25,860 --> 00:30:32,310 doing pass through. And but they're cashing in then they see 463 00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:38,940 there's some sort of like, cash patch mismatch. I don't know 464 00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:41,250 what this is. That's weird. Yeah. 465 00:30:41,790 --> 00:30:48,090 Well, only Google or maybe now I think was Google. Is there any 466 00:30:48,090 --> 00:30:53,520 is any other? Do they have any device? For some? I think there 467 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,890 was some other reporting. It's just like, oh, that's a Google. 468 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,930 They're probably using Google system. I don't know. It was 469 00:30:57,930 --> 00:30:58,260 weird. 470 00:30:58,350 --> 00:31:05,040 Yeah. Well, that'd be one thing on op three front. I was 471 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,280 listening to Todd and Rosli said in the media show, 472 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,280 was that a new one? Is that the one they did last week? It 473 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,780 looked like it had a new name, title. 474 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:16,620 It was a new and it threw me off to I think the title was like 475 00:31:16,650 --> 00:31:17,940 almost the same or something. 476 00:31:18,330 --> 00:31:22,170 Not listened to it because I thought it was somehow something 477 00:31:22,170 --> 00:31:25,770 had messed up. I know, Mitch, I did two sync problems with POD 478 00:31:25,770 --> 00:31:30,780 verse and thought, oh, maybe whatever. Oh, man, go God. God 479 00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:34,350 said sad marketing, you know better than this, which is 480 00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:38,130 You're better than this. Todd. You scared me away from a brand 481 00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:41,700 new episode, and I was looking at I listened to pivot instead. 482 00:31:43,950 --> 00:31:48,570 Okay, yes. Here's the problem. Here's the problem. Last week 483 00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:52,620 show the title was podcast ad rep companies in big trouble. 484 00:31:53,130 --> 00:31:56,910 The title of this week's show is lazy podcast advertising. Rip. 485 00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:01,140 Okay, that's so that's what threw me off. It had 486 00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:06,060 linguistic foo in there that was so similar. Yeah. That it threw 487 00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:08,130 me off too, because I almost deleted it, too. I thought it 488 00:32:08,130 --> 00:32:10,620 was a rehash. I thought it came back from the dead. 489 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,330 Okay, so when was that he good? 490 00:32:12,989 --> 00:32:17,939 Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's good. So the one you know, number one 491 00:32:17,939 --> 00:32:21,509 here is his liquidity was drained. So we you you opened a 492 00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:22,679 new channel to him, we got the 493 00:32:22,979 --> 00:32:27,419 open up, I think, a 2 million Satoshi channel. And me and like 494 00:32:27,569 --> 00:32:30,299 10 minutes later, hey, I'm going over to get lb 495 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:39,180 saw that? Great. Because I was trying to boost him he was he 496 00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:42,000 was on the show. He was like, man, we must not be having a 497 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,130 good show. Because nobody's boosting this. And like, we 498 00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:48,540 can't, we can't boost you. We're out of money. Sure. out of out 499 00:32:48,540 --> 00:32:52,560 of liquidity. Yeah. But anyway, so no, it was a good show. But 500 00:32:52,590 --> 00:32:55,050 one thing that he talked about on there talked about a lot of 501 00:32:55,050 --> 00:33:00,300 things that interested me. But one thing is, you know, I've 502 00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:05,460 been trying to say for the last few weeks, that what I would 503 00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:10,590 really love is an open is that is the podcast hosting companies 504 00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:17,610 to make some, some sort of data public, of trending shows, or, 505 00:33:18,210 --> 00:33:24,840 like, show lists public, so that we don't have to depend on the 506 00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:32,970 apps themselves to release trending and whatever you call 507 00:33:32,970 --> 00:33:36,300 it, like trending data, or top chart charts and things like 508 00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:41,640 that, like I want, I would like to have recommendations of shows 509 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,700 that are that are coming from the hosting companies 510 00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:49,230 themselves. Like, it doesn't even have to be trending or top 511 00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:54,000 or quote unquote, top shows. It could just be, here's a list of 512 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,080 shows that we we want the world to listen to. It could be just 513 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,720 whatever criteria that the hosting companies want. I just 514 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,190 want lists, I want lists of shows that can be they can be 515 00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:09,570 treated as recommendations, so that we can build open, 516 00:34:10,350 --> 00:34:15,720 decentralized recommendation points that are not based on 517 00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:22,770 Apple, Spotify, Google, these big huge companies. I think the 518 00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:25,740 hosting companies have this data. And I would like them to 519 00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:30,300 give it to the community in some way so that we can the pie. The 520 00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:33,270 podcast industry should build the solutions not 521 00:34:33,390 --> 00:34:38,820 right breach, but companies but so the key word here is what is 522 00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:43,680 trending. What I mean you just want list, but what data and I 523 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,440 can already tell you that this needs a steering group, it needs 524 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,180 a nonprofit it needs it through your mind need a C four just for 525 00:34:51,180 --> 00:34:56,190 the lobbying and Congress to understand what exactly the data 526 00:34:56,190 --> 00:34:59,970 is. How's it compiled? Those are those guys jackin their own show 527 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,120 Oh, I can go on like this for ever on this. 528 00:35:03,179 --> 00:35:08,609 I know I got a guy that can do a 990. For us. We get no, I don't 529 00:35:08,609 --> 00:35:15,989 even kit. Let me I want to be really clear. I don't I 530 00:35:15,989 --> 00:35:22,769 personally do not care if it's a chart for top shows or trending. 531 00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:30,479 None of that bothers me. I just want lists of shows. So, to me a 532 00:35:30,479 --> 00:35:37,019 list could coming from blueberry would be something like, here is 533 00:35:37,649 --> 00:35:45,059 400 Great blueberry shows period. That no no metrics? No, 534 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,249 no. Nothing like, here is the 400 top blueberry shows by 535 00:35:50,249 --> 00:35:55,379 download, like, I don't care about that. It's just actually 536 00:35:55,379 --> 00:35:58,379 the more ambiguous the metrics, the better, because you're just 537 00:35:58,379 --> 00:36:01,229 like, they can be a rotating list where you say, 538 00:36:02,579 --> 00:36:05,609 but it reflects the the hosting companies preference, whatever 539 00:36:05,609 --> 00:36:06,299 that is. 540 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,010 Yes, it reflects, it reflects some sort of quality signal 541 00:36:11,010 --> 00:36:14,610 within the hosting company where they say, the here's a batch of 542 00:36:14,610 --> 00:36:20,400 shows that we consider to be really good quality shows that 543 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,350 are on our network. And that's the only that's the only signal 544 00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:27,780 you get from them. You they don't tell you what the metric 545 00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:30,870 is the the shows could have 12 listeners. 546 00:36:30,990 --> 00:36:35,400 Okay, I gotcha, that will get we will circle back to that. 547 00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:41,340 But okay. But here's what Todd was talking about he he was 548 00:36:41,340 --> 00:36:45,090 saying that specifically, they do not want to release their top 549 00:36:45,090 --> 00:36:50,250 shows, like a list of here's our top shows by download. Because 550 00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:53,820 his words were immediately everybody was start poaching his 551 00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:54,510 shows. 552 00:36:56,340 --> 00:37:01,290 But what to what end? Okay, I just got to go back to first 553 00:37:01,290 --> 00:37:07,380 principles. What what is the point to what to be able to say, 554 00:37:07,530 --> 00:37:10,830 here's a list of cool podcasts to listen to, how can that be 555 00:37:10,830 --> 00:37:14,190 relevant to me, I hear about cool podcasts from you on 556 00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:17,520 signal, or I read about something or I pick something 557 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,290 up. That's this, it's mythical to me, this this podcast 558 00:37:22,290 --> 00:37:24,870 discovery and you know, the best and 559 00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:30,149 this is not about it. This is where this conversation goes 560 00:37:30,149 --> 00:37:34,349 always inside. It's, I don't want to be more clear. It's not 561 00:37:34,379 --> 00:37:39,839 really about discovery. This is more. So we imagine this 562 00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:42,329 scenario. And this is really more of a programming thing. 563 00:37:43,439 --> 00:37:46,109 Imagine this, here's the scenario that we hit during 564 00:37:46,109 --> 00:37:49,199 freedom controller build, somebody installs a freedom 565 00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:52,769 controller, they set up a new account, and there's going to be 566 00:37:52,769 --> 00:37:57,149 a news River in there a river of New Thought news items. Where 567 00:37:57,149 --> 00:38:00,629 are those feeds coming from, there's got to be a default 568 00:38:00,629 --> 00:38:04,049 list, there's got to be something to start with, like a 569 00:38:04,049 --> 00:38:09,329 seed, a seed OPML, where all these feeds are going to come 570 00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:13,289 from? Well, you know, we had to build that. And so we built in, 571 00:38:13,499 --> 00:38:16,739 there's a default list that you start with of about 50 feeds. 572 00:38:17,459 --> 00:38:22,289 That's what I want, I want a default place to start. Because 573 00:38:22,289 --> 00:38:24,989 every podcast app, no matter what it looks like, is going to 574 00:38:24,989 --> 00:38:29,969 have some Bootstrap, that it has to have, where when you go, when 575 00:38:29,969 --> 00:38:33,209 you open the apps, you don't just get a blank screen, it 576 00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:39,479 always comes back to share your OPML always says this. And that, 577 00:38:39,689 --> 00:38:43,049 may I make a suggestion, that's where you want to get your list 578 00:38:43,049 --> 00:38:47,939 from. You want to get your list from individuals, and that can 579 00:38:47,939 --> 00:38:56,879 be aggregated to every single thing that works. Okay. So I 580 00:38:56,879 --> 00:38:59,489 understand what you're saying was, I'm not quite sure why but 581 00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,819 here's what I here's what I see a benefit of is that share my 582 00:39:02,819 --> 00:39:05,249 OPML I think is what is basically it's your subscription 583 00:39:05,249 --> 00:39:09,449 list. And, and I find this to be very valuable. And I would love 584 00:39:09,449 --> 00:39:11,699 and you know, this used to be a thing, it's like you used to 585 00:39:11,699 --> 00:39:14,459 have a blog role and be on the side of your page. And these are 586 00:39:14,459 --> 00:39:19,859 the things that I'm the blog's that I'm subscribed to. But your 587 00:39:19,859 --> 00:39:22,829 actual feed subscription lists which people typically use to 588 00:39:22,829 --> 00:39:27,089 export to go from one app to the other, that's actually valuable 589 00:39:27,089 --> 00:39:31,139 information that can be shared and aggregated. What you're 590 00:39:31,139 --> 00:39:35,999 proposing when it comes from, for example, a hosting company 591 00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,479 well, I can tell you right now, and I'm I'm a pretty honest guy, 592 00:39:39,479 --> 00:39:43,319 but at a certain point, I think some marketing might show up 593 00:39:43,319 --> 00:39:46,739 that would say, hey, we can even get you noticed, you know, 594 00:39:46,739 --> 00:39:49,619 because yeah, put you up put you on the list and put you in the 595 00:39:49,619 --> 00:39:53,129 rotation. So you know, that creeps in I've worked at MTV, so 596 00:39:53,129 --> 00:39:56,069 I know exactly how this works. It's not people aren't evil, but 597 00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:59,549 it just kind of you know it okay, but that's okay. No, it's 598 00:39:59,579 --> 00:40:03,179 I'm not saying is not okay. But isn't it better to get it from 599 00:40:03,179 --> 00:40:07,619 the listeners themselves and I can identify with this is part 600 00:40:07,619 --> 00:40:10,019 of what I like, although they haven't figured it out yet. 601 00:40:10,049 --> 00:40:13,349 Fountain is getting close to that. Except they're, they're 602 00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:16,559 matching people up with clips and stuff like that. But it's 603 00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:21,059 really like, because you and I listen, if I were to put our 604 00:40:21,059 --> 00:40:25,079 two, we should like we should do this, I will export my OPML and 605 00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:27,239 we'll put them next to each other. And there's going to be 606 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:33,629 some interesting overlap. And you know, and I can learn about 607 00:40:33,629 --> 00:40:36,689 some things that I'm I Adam curry might want to listen to 608 00:40:36,689 --> 00:40:38,699 not some just default stuff. 609 00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:41,910 Oh, oh, I just had I just 610 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,290 I would like, okay. 611 00:40:45,869 --> 00:40:51,839 We, if everything ultimately ends up being, if all good ideas 612 00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:57,029 ultimately end up being share your opinion. time every time. 613 00:40:57,419 --> 00:41:01,529 If that just let's just start fighting it and embrace it. So 614 00:41:02,759 --> 00:41:08,219 let's let's do this. But why don't I put in something into 615 00:41:08,219 --> 00:41:12,989 the into the API? That's an anonymous OPML submission. 616 00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:17,009 This non cast event obviously, moving could be 617 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,920 yes. And then we'll, we'll have it in den the apps like pod 618 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:31,170 verse, curio caster, they can just they can submit with their, 619 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:37,290 you know, customer client class approval with their listener 620 00:41:37,290 --> 00:41:39,690 listening list with their listeners approval, an 621 00:41:39,690 --> 00:41:45,210 anonymized OPML list back to the Index dairy and then we will 622 00:41:45,210 --> 00:41:49,710 index those anonymized lists and just make the in convert those 623 00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:53,820 lists into a public list. That's that can be used by anybody who 624 00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:57,390 wants to have a getting started. Here's a podcast use your 625 00:41:57,390 --> 00:41:57,870 starters. 626 00:41:57,870 --> 00:42:01,590 And now you have a public way to circumvent the most irritating 627 00:42:01,590 --> 00:42:07,680 thing in modern user generated content. Add like and subscribe. 628 00:42:07,710 --> 00:42:11,070 Now subscribe will actually mean something because that subscribe 629 00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:16,110 will show up publicly and we can really see who's subscribing to 630 00:42:16,110 --> 00:42:20,430 what. Or at least what's being subscribed to. We don't need to 631 00:42:20,430 --> 00:42:23,010 Doc's. Anybody Hold on a second. Dave coming at you right now. 632 00:42:23,010 --> 00:42:26,220 Brother. Look at your signals. There it is. There's Adam curry 633 00:42:26,220 --> 00:42:27,360 subscription list. 634 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,770 You just signaled it to him. Yeah. You did that while you 635 00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:32,370 were talking? 636 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,390 Oh, you have no idea what I'm doing here while I'm talking. 637 00:42:41,579 --> 00:42:45,239 Yeah, this all the all the apps if I understand, right, all the 638 00:42:45,269 --> 00:42:49,709 all the 2.0 apps will get your OPML Yeah. Okay, I'm doing 639 00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:50,760 something else here for a second. 640 00:42:54,329 --> 00:43:00,359 Share your bone. Okay, so if all the if all the 2.0 apps, and I 641 00:43:00,359 --> 00:43:04,139 think they all do now support OPML export, they have that code 642 00:43:04,139 --> 00:43:07,499 in I'm already now. So they, they should be able to do 643 00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:10,560 that I need to tell you a story about default lists, just so I 644 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,370 get it off my chest, I have to absolve myself of this detail. 645 00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:20,310 Radio userland was the aggregator slash blog client 646 00:43:20,310 --> 00:43:22,860 that Dave Weiner wrote. That's how I got interested in that's 647 00:43:22,860 --> 00:43:25,440 how eventually that collaboration led to podcasting. 648 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,580 But even before that, before, before we started working on 649 00:43:29,580 --> 00:43:33,930 that, probably couple of years before I don't remember, I don't 650 00:43:33,930 --> 00:43:38,370 remember the timing exactly. I saw this this aggregator like 651 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,910 this radio user land like, wow, I want my blog to be in that 652 00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:48,870 first list of, of 20. Of 20 blogs, and I gave him $10,000 to 653 00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:52,350 put my name in there as a default. No, I think he's told 654 00:43:52,350 --> 00:43:56,130 me that I was on I was on the default feeds list in a lot of 655 00:43:56,130 --> 00:43:59,880 podcast app for a long, long time because of that it paid 656 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:06,780 off. But I'm just saying that it still feels bad. Many, many 657 00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:10,200 decades later. It's like taking 658 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,640 wooden silver like I can 659 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,800 at what you can 660 00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:21,509 eat Okay, real. It's the real OPML lists from this is what 661 00:44:21,509 --> 00:44:21,629 from 662 00:44:21,630 --> 00:44:24,510 the user this is what I like I think this is a very exciting 663 00:44:24,510 --> 00:44:25,020 idea. 664 00:44:25,860 --> 00:44:30,420 Yeah, you in the listeners have, you can have that side of 665 00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:33,540 things. And then you could also have the host side of things 666 00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:35,190 where they have their lists that they 667 00:44:35,850 --> 00:44:39,060 put into the way but yes, we can put it all together. I mean, but 668 00:44:39,060 --> 00:44:42,180 I just think like this, you gotta have I would drive it from 669 00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:46,380 the listeners have have anyone can contribute. Why not? Why 670 00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:54,090 wouldn't I mean? Why wouldn't an app itself so here's just your 671 00:44:54,090 --> 00:44:57,090 right we can have what is share my OPML that's, that's the 672 00:44:57,090 --> 00:45:00,210 bottom line doesn't matter who you are, what type of entity You 673 00:45:00,210 --> 00:45:03,840 are as long as we can all share it and then we can aggregate it 674 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,710 and come up with some fun stats or, Hey, we got we got a lot of 675 00:45:07,710 --> 00:45:13,710 people, we just need to have the data. I'm sure people like, you 676 00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:19,230 know, there's some AI MSL KYC AML people out there who will do 677 00:45:19,230 --> 00:45:21,660 something really cool with it and come up with some, some cool 678 00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:24,210 charts and graphs and maybe recommendation engines. I 679 00:45:24,209 --> 00:45:27,809 don't know. Yeah, that's this is this one. But it's a machine 680 00:45:27,809 --> 00:45:30,539 readable. I thank you for saying it. Let's not let's stop 681 00:45:30,539 --> 00:45:31,919 fighting the joke. 682 00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:37,260 Just embrace embrace this world embrace this brave new world of 683 00:45:37,260 --> 00:45:40,890 hope in this brave new world of OPML. That's 25 years ago. 684 00:45:40,949 --> 00:45:42,959 Oh my goodness. That 685 00:45:43,590 --> 00:45:49,950 this, this old professor of mine and took took a classroom called 686 00:45:49,950 --> 00:45:55,110 extraterrestrial life. It was in in college, one of the funniest 687 00:45:55,230 --> 00:45:59,760 classes I've ever had. And he he made the statement that all you 688 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,370 know, all the best scientists eventually become 689 00:46:02,370 --> 00:46:05,670 astrophysicist. They eventually turn their turn their focus to 690 00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:10,230 space. And yeah, all the best ideas are always eventually 691 00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:13,320 become share your OPML so let's just do it. Let's just go that 692 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:13,620 way. 693 00:46:13,649 --> 00:46:18,389 Well, and let's just be careful here. We're doing cuz you're 694 00:46:18,389 --> 00:46:25,289 right. All things. Just the tip, Dave, let's be careful. It's not 695 00:46:25,319 --> 00:46:29,429 not go all the way. This is easy, does it? What was the 696 00:46:29,429 --> 00:46:34,799 beauty of Napster? Was it just that you could search for 697 00:46:34,799 --> 00:46:38,279 something and download it? Or was it? Hey, I'm downloading 698 00:46:38,279 --> 00:46:41,879 this thing. And let me see what else this dude has on his drive. 699 00:46:42,779 --> 00:46:48,119 That exploration was part of the beauty of it. You know what I'm 700 00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:48,689 saying? 701 00:46:49,590 --> 00:46:52,470 Yeah, because you can see the whole collection and not just 702 00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:53,490 the thing you want it. 703 00:46:53,550 --> 00:46:57,810 It's like I would love to have access to now I'm gonna get 704 00:46:57,810 --> 00:47:01,620 fancy here because I would love to have a true OPML file and 705 00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:06,900 have it foldable by whatever. Like an outline. I think James 706 00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:09,390 Cleveland's OPML will be pretty interesting to look at. 707 00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:16,769 Your This is crazy. This is crazy talk. You want actual 708 00:47:16,799 --> 00:47:18,209 valid OPML 709 00:47:20,190 --> 00:47:23,670 I know. I'm sorry. Instead of just a subscription list you and 710 00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:27,480 I have you haven't right valid OPML but Okay, what else? Yeah, 711 00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:30,840 exactly. Yes. That's the crazy talk. I'm talking about 712 00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:35,099 the only person the only person younger than then 50 Besides us 713 00:47:35,099 --> 00:47:38,219 that cares about valid opium mill is Christopher ICs. 714 00:47:38,249 --> 00:47:41,309 Right well he right now he's like well, he can't believe his 715 00:47:41,309 --> 00:47:45,929 luck. He by the way he he is share my OPML 716 00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:48,629 this what is his name? That's his middle name is share 717 00:47:48,629 --> 00:47:49,169 European. 718 00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,919 I just does he have an API to his stuff? Because he's got a 719 00:47:52,919 --> 00:47:54,869 lot of stuff going on and OPML 720 00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:58,470 I don't know he's runs like a runs like a rack of like 20 year 721 00:47:58,470 --> 00:48:01,350 old servers in his garage differ. 722 00:48:01,349 --> 00:48:03,779 This is up your alley, brother. This is the stuff you know 723 00:48:03,779 --> 00:48:08,939 about. That, I guess they call this a cool idea. I like it. 724 00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:14,880 So on the well, quick update on pod ping dot cloud. 725 00:48:14,909 --> 00:48:19,619 Yes. This seems to I'll be honest. It's given me a little 726 00:48:19,619 --> 00:48:25,259 bit of a reliability issue. Feelings anxiety. No. Well, I 727 00:48:25,259 --> 00:48:27,149 had a misfire with no agenda. 728 00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:31,410 How did that Oh, I don't know. So Mr. Id three tags. So head 729 00:48:31,410 --> 00:48:33,090 on. May have been you. 730 00:48:33,539 --> 00:48:39,179 Wow. Thanks. IT support. How you help everyone at the firm day. 731 00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:44,249 First thing you do is blame the user? Of course. It's never my 732 00:48:44,249 --> 00:48:44,519 fault. 733 00:48:46,289 --> 00:48:48,239 Check the caps lock you Dumbo 734 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,050 Castle hook. Yeah, it's a problem between the keyboard and 735 00:48:52,050 --> 00:48:57,210 the brain in the brain. But I don't know I don't I don't think 736 00:48:57,420 --> 00:49:00,780 is there a reliability issue with puffy? No cloud on it? 737 00:49:00,780 --> 00:49:02,040 Well, okay. Okay. To me. 738 00:49:02,429 --> 00:49:06,449 Todd hasn't successfully done a live pod ping in his life. That 739 00:49:06,449 --> 00:49:12,029 mine mine failed yesterday. What's going on? And all I see 740 00:49:12,029 --> 00:49:16,679 is Brian of London going Yeah, look, I've got to 8000 things 741 00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:20,819 going on and and Facebook. I can't tell you why. How rich I'm 742 00:49:20,819 --> 00:49:23,489 going to be off of them. And then Dave comes in and goes, 743 00:49:23,909 --> 00:49:28,709 well, this one broke and the AAA dot two and the BB BB is running 744 00:49:28,709 --> 00:49:32,789 fine. But meanwhile, Todd has Ivan. Here's what's happening. 745 00:49:33,659 --> 00:49:38,159 Todd is trying to reach me with his live pod ping. And I'm not 746 00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:41,039 getting them so I'm missing the show. And not only that, but he 747 00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:45,899 does a dumb title and then I missed the show. You're breaking 748 00:49:45,899 --> 00:49:48,719 up our relationship with this pod ping issues 749 00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:52,050 he's trying to reach is a long distance relationship and I'm 750 00:49:52,050 --> 00:49:53,310 interfering with this. 751 00:49:53,610 --> 00:49:57,120 It's like a channel it's like a lightning channel being down 752 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,940 when the when the connection is broken. You feel that 753 00:50:00,750 --> 00:50:10,380 I cannot. I cannot explain why Todd cannot send a left HUD. No, 754 00:50:10,830 --> 00:50:15,090 I don't know what's wrong with this, but I do. But, but I know 755 00:50:15,090 --> 00:50:17,820 what the solution. I don't know what the problem is. But I do 756 00:50:17,820 --> 00:50:19,770 know what the solution is. Now, for 757 00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:23,160 instance, oh, no, I'm sorry. We did get a live ping for 758 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,740 podcasting two point. Okay, that did work. Yeah, yeah. And what I 759 00:50:25,740 --> 00:50:28,380 see right here on my phone, what's, what's the solution? 760 00:50:28,770 --> 00:50:35,100 The solution is the next version of pod pain dot cloud, which we 761 00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,880 are working to get, because once once we get lot of reason code 762 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,050 support in piping dot cloud, then then we don't have to rely 763 00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:47,280 on these alternate solutions. People can just send what 764 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,970 they're used to. They can just send there's their thing. 765 00:50:50,970 --> 00:50:53,610 They're paying to pop into a cloud with a lot of reason code. 766 00:50:53,610 --> 00:50:57,540 And, you know, and all these other hacky side solutions, have 767 00:50:57,570 --> 00:51:02,880 they could they go away? Right. So I think that's really 768 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,390 ultimately the fix. And we're getting we're getting there we 769 00:51:07,110 --> 00:51:11,190 we've got the back end and front end talking to each other now. 770 00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:21,360 And thank you to thank you to Alex for rescuing me from my via 771 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,040 from trying to take figure out how to take this protocol buffer 772 00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:33,270 and send it over the socket. In a way, it was driving me crazy. 773 00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:36,240 I'm like, I know, this is it, I know, this is the thing that I 774 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:39,930 got to sin, and it just would not work. And so he looked at 775 00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:44,070 any in, he was like, oh, you can't send this in pieces, it's 776 00:51:44,070 --> 00:51:46,440 got to be, it's got to be all you got to send the whole buffer 777 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,100 at once. Like, oh, for me, I was beating my head against the 778 00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:53,430 wall. And then he also found that I was not wrapping it in 779 00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:56,100 the correct type. So anyway, he was able to spot some put fresh 780 00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:58,350 eyes on his spot what I was doing wrong. So we got that 781 00:51:58,350 --> 00:52:02,790 working. Now it's crashing, on the on the back end on on the 782 00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:07,380 hive writer. So the ultimate. So we're trying to do this in a way 783 00:52:07,380 --> 00:52:09,900 that's modular as well, because ultimately, we want to have more 784 00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:13,290 than just the hive writer, we want to be able to have other 785 00:52:13,290 --> 00:52:17,250 back end writers where this where you send a pod pain to 786 00:52:17,250 --> 00:52:19,950 piping dot cloud, it gets written to hive, it gets written 787 00:52:19,950 --> 00:52:24,450 to IPFS, Pub Sub, whatever, you know, all it can blast out into 788 00:52:24,450 --> 00:52:28,950 a whole bunch of different backends as appropriate, okay. 789 00:52:29,730 --> 00:52:32,640 And so that's we're sort of trying to solve all these things 790 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:38,130 at once. With by by designing the correct architecture up 791 00:52:38,130 --> 00:52:41,370 front. And correct architecture. Is this one too many socket? 792 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,540 Yes. You're doing this in your spare time as Alex as is Brian. 793 00:52:46,110 --> 00:52:48,510 Yeah, yeah. And I love you guys for this. 794 00:52:48,810 --> 00:52:51,810 Getting close. It's getting close to the holidays is made 795 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:59,490 things hard. That's what she said. It's so 796 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,610 I'm sorry, I'm real punchy. We started an hour later, Dave. I 797 00:53:02,610 --> 00:53:04,260 mean, it's your fault. Basically. It's 798 00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:07,080 too I blame retro you had way too much. 799 00:53:08,489 --> 00:53:11,879 This problem is it's not me. It's the dirty the dirty chat 800 00:53:11,879 --> 00:53:13,499 room. Oh, 801 00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:14,250 they get you fired. I 802 00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:19,470 read your quote in the chat room and you'll understand. Okay. 803 00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:31,259 Yes, yes. Yes, of course. Of course. As you guys. 804 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,830 They baited me Good job, boys. You got 805 00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:39,510 this. See this is this is what I do. I do double entendre Yes. 806 00:53:39,540 --> 00:53:40,590 Without realizing it 807 00:53:40,619 --> 00:53:43,559 does actually trigger me through the chat room. You're so 808 00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:44,189 brilliant. 809 00:53:44,550 --> 00:53:52,560 So my my my most famous example of accidental double entendre is 810 00:53:52,860 --> 00:53:57,180 me and my wife went to Logan's Roadhouse. I don't know if y'all 811 00:53:57,180 --> 00:54:00,780 have those in Texas or not. I don't think so. It's like a 812 00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:02,400 chain steakhouse place. 813 00:54:03,809 --> 00:54:07,499 We get have a beef snob. I don't go to chains. Yes, yes. 814 00:54:09,389 --> 00:54:12,449 But we went there for out on a date night or something like 815 00:54:12,449 --> 00:54:17,939 that. And we have, we had a couple of steaks and then and 816 00:54:17,939 --> 00:54:21,629 I'm so full. I can't I mean, I can't eat anything else. But 817 00:54:21,629 --> 00:54:25,949 this waiter who's like, I don't know. 19 years old. He comes 818 00:54:25,949 --> 00:54:30,299 over to the it comes back to the table. He's like, Hey, can I can 819 00:54:30,299 --> 00:54:35,939 I get you awesome dessert? Well, my dad, for my dad has always he 820 00:54:35,939 --> 00:54:39,029 has all these these sayings. Like he's just famous for these 821 00:54:39,029 --> 00:54:45,149 sayings. And one of these, one of his classic sayings is when 822 00:54:45,149 --> 00:54:47,879 he's really full and somebody asks him if you want dessert. 823 00:54:49,409 --> 00:54:54,119 He's like, I'd have to rub it on the outside. Because no room. 824 00:54:56,099 --> 00:55:01,679 So, so this 19 year old God it says do wasn't desert. And I 825 00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:06,029 said, and I flubbed it. I flub the joke. And I said, you'd have 826 00:55:06,029 --> 00:55:14,669 to rub it on me. And so the look on his face when I said you have 827 00:55:14,669 --> 00:55:20,249 to rub it on me, man. He went, why does this sheet thought, oh 828 00:55:20,249 --> 00:55:22,469 my God, these are some sort of this is some sort of creepy 829 00:55:22,469 --> 00:55:26,279 swinger couple or something. He just he just turned around 830 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,280 and walked away. Yeah, that's the only appropriate response. 831 00:55:30,210 --> 00:55:34,590 Then Then, when he brought me the check, like, he was like, an 832 00:55:34,590 --> 00:55:37,440 effing ninja when he brought this check. I mean, I don't know 833 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,470 how the check even appeared on our table. It was like he was I 834 00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:43,020 mean, it's like he didn't even want to get close to us. That's 835 00:55:43,020 --> 00:55:48,000 too funny, man. I forgot what I was even talking about. 836 00:55:48,030 --> 00:55:54,090 I don't know. I'm looking at these, these stats. And I 837 00:55:54,090 --> 00:55:59,460 thought this was a great little colab. And I heard I heard Todd 838 00:55:59,460 --> 00:56:02,850 and Rob talking about add, the stats are not useful. We need 839 00:56:02,850 --> 00:56:06,480 them three 710 14 3060 days and need them right away, 840 00:56:07,110 --> 00:56:08,880 though. Yeah. Todd was not happy with my stats. 841 00:56:08,909 --> 00:56:15,569 No, he was very demanding. But now I have a question because I 842 00:56:15,569 --> 00:56:19,139 don't quite understand it. So I'm looking at the JSON. I got 843 00:56:19,139 --> 00:56:22,229 the feed count total episode. And now it has two categories 844 00:56:22,229 --> 00:56:26,699 has feeds with new episodes. Three days and new episodes. 845 00:56:26,699 --> 00:56:28,529 Three days. What is the difference? 846 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,730 Oh, where you're looking? You're looking at the thing I posted? 847 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:32,970 Yeah, 848 00:56:32,970 --> 00:56:36,600 the JSON? Daily counts dot JSON. 849 00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:42,120 Yeah, which is, which is immediately not not the right 850 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,140 way to immediately a bad file name. Because it's not a daily 851 00:56:46,140 --> 00:56:48,420 it's an hourly, so I've already screwed that up. 852 00:56:48,570 --> 00:56:50,850 Well done. Thanks. 853 00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:54,270 I'm trying to find the link so I can even see 854 00:56:54,809 --> 00:57:00,539 that podcast. index.org/daily_watch Why are 855 00:57:00,539 --> 00:57:01,409 you laughing at me? 856 00:57:01,949 --> 00:57:04,739 I'm just laughing because you're having to tell me what I did. 857 00:57:07,530 --> 00:57:09,540 It's okay. Slash 858 00:57:09,539 --> 00:57:11,729 pockets and dinners daily underscore 859 00:57:12,510 --> 00:57:13,980 count dot JSON. 860 00:57:16,139 --> 00:57:19,799 So stupid. I don't even know my own files. Oh, yeah. Okay, sci 861 00:57:19,799 --> 00:57:23,339 fi, total count episode count total. 100 16 million. That's a 862 00:57:23,339 --> 00:57:28,709 lot. Feeds with new episodes. Okay, so feeds that have posted 863 00:57:28,709 --> 00:57:30,509 a new episode within three days. 864 00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:33,870 But what is new episodes, three days? That's how 865 00:57:33,870 --> 00:57:36,600 many new episodes have been posted in the last three days 866 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,040 total across the board. 867 00:57:38,099 --> 00:57:44,099 Oh, okay. So oh, so in the last three days, it's pretty much 868 00:57:44,129 --> 00:57:47,849 double the amount of episodes as there are feeds with new 869 00:57:47,849 --> 00:57:50,819 episodes, I saw that so many feeds would have more than one 870 00:57:50,819 --> 00:57:55,529 episode. In the past three days. Okay, that's, well, that's very 871 00:57:55,529 --> 00:57:56,159 interesting. 872 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:02,790 New episodes. So over the last 90 days, there's been 5,685,338 873 00:58:02,790 --> 00:58:03,510 New episodes, 874 00:58:03,540 --> 00:58:07,380 right? A little bit over. So I like seven days, because that's, 875 00:58:07,410 --> 00:58:11,670 that seems to be the biggest. That's a big number here. Just 876 00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:17,220 makes sense. Because 10 days, it drops off. So it feels like 877 00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:21,750 there's probably too, I'm just gonna pick a number in between 878 00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:26,400 this probably 250,000 podcasts that update on a weekly basis 879 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,170 that we're aware of. Does that make sense? 880 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:33,630 Well, it should be right there. What's that number was? It was 881 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,830 11,000. So yeah, 77. Yeah. That's your count right there 882 00:58:37,830 --> 00:58:40,380 for a seven day period. That's how many shows have posted at 883 00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:43,530 least one new episode. And someone's 884 00:58:43,529 --> 00:58:45,929 making a lot of money for that billion dollars that's flowing 885 00:58:45,929 --> 00:58:49,949 around this business. Right? It's gotta be one guy in there. 886 00:58:49,949 --> 00:58:51,989 One guy in there is making $900 million. 887 00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:57,600 That's a billion dollars divided by 211,000. That's a lot of 888 00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,860 money. Which one is it? 889 00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:01,320 Yeah. Who are you guy? 890 00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:08,729 Okay, so that's these numbers, man. It's so so doable to get in 891 00:59:08,729 --> 00:59:10,349 there and get something done in there? 892 00:59:11,909 --> 00:59:18,599 I think so. I mean, three OSI 338 to 5,685,338 episodes, 893 00:59:18,899 --> 00:59:28,499 divided by 487,236 shows to over nine over 90 days. That's 894 00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:35,669 averaging. Excuse me, that's 11 New episodes per feed over a 90 895 00:59:35,669 --> 00:59:36,419 day period. 896 00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:42,929 So yeah, so a little more than ones like 1.7 1.4 A week or 897 00:59:42,929 --> 00:59:43,499 something. 898 00:59:44,579 --> 00:59:47,879 Yeah, feels like I don't know what I what it feels like I find 899 00:59:49,409 --> 00:59:50,519 I'm bored. Now. You 900 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,910 know what it seems like it seems like 18 years later, and this is 901 00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:56,310 the amount of podcasts that are really active and we still 902 00:59:56,310 --> 00:59:59,490 haven't figured out how to do advertising. Get a 903 00:59:59,490 --> 01:00:05,100 clue Got feeds with value blocks. 10,495 Yeah, this 904 01:00:05,099 --> 01:00:09,269 is my favorite. This is my favorite. My favorite number, 905 01:00:09,630 --> 01:00:13,440 and then feeds with transcripts 22,058. 906 01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:15,510 Of which most of it Buzzsprout, I believe. 907 01:00:17,219 --> 01:00:19,829 Yeah, I would pass a yes or half, 908 01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:23,309 I think. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. I like 909 01:00:23,309 --> 01:00:23,639 that. 910 01:00:23,969 --> 01:00:26,039 Look at the episode numbers, episodes or transcripts? 911 01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:32,429 534,202. That's all me this year, at least a third of them? 912 01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:35,729 A lot. But I think these 913 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,820 are great numbers. I love that. No, I loved it. Don't change the 914 01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:42,450 name to hourly or lose it. These are good numbers. I really never 915 01:00:42,450 --> 01:00:44,940 find it in this updates. Let me guess every hour? 916 01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:48,660 Yes. That's why it's called Daily, because it updates every 917 01:00:48,660 --> 01:00:56,550 hour. Okay, I'm gonna change that name. But if we can just 918 01:00:56,580 --> 01:01:02,160 add more stuff. So, you know, once you go down this rabbit 919 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,060 hole, you can just stat all the things so you know, like feeds 920 01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:12,720 with fees with chapters. feeds that are music, medium feeds and 921 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:13,230 podcast 922 01:01:13,470 --> 01:01:15,810 follow up right there. How are we doing with Slurpee? 923 01:01:17,969 --> 01:01:24,449 We did a big import last week is not called a slurp it did us a 924 01:01:24,449 --> 01:01:26,339 spit as a slurping spit. 925 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,320 Sure it wasn't a song, it was just a specific 926 01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:35,669 topic. The I'm gonna have to limit your 100% of retro time 927 01:01:35,669 --> 01:01:37,919 before the show. This is the reason 928 01:01:37,919 --> 01:01:40,739 why I say that makes you to spice and when I had my company 929 01:01:40,739 --> 01:01:45,749 think new ideas. It was a big company 700 people and so we had 930 01:01:45,749 --> 01:01:48,959 put we put these processes together to run. But you're 931 01:01:48,959 --> 01:01:51,989 basically building websites, you know, but for big companies, 932 01:01:51,989 --> 01:01:56,999 Budweiser, Reebok, you know, stuff like this. And we would 933 01:01:57,029 --> 01:02:00,299 and we it's kind of up to us, we could create whatever we wanted, 934 01:02:00,479 --> 01:02:03,779 within reason with the client sign off and back end stuff. So 935 01:02:03,779 --> 01:02:06,599 we had the system, which we literally called the process. 936 01:02:06,929 --> 01:02:12,569 And at the time staging and production, so you'd have client 937 01:02:12,569 --> 01:02:15,839 services, who would be you know, on the staging server with the 938 01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:18,659 client, the client checking it all making sure it's okay, good 939 01:02:18,929 --> 01:02:22,469 or good. It can go to can go to production, and they literally 940 01:02:22,469 --> 01:02:26,819 had a suck order. That's what they have stuck it over to send 941 01:02:26,819 --> 01:02:29,189 it live. So that's where that comes from. 942 01:02:30,750 --> 01:02:32,190 So you'd have to put in a circle with a 943 01:02:32,250 --> 01:02:37,020 quarter. Yes, exactly. You want to know who devised the system? 944 01:02:38,099 --> 01:02:41,039 Oh, yeah, that would have been 100%. You people love 945 01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:41,939 using it, though. 946 01:02:44,130 --> 01:02:49,440 See? So I had this. I had this. Yeah, we're the meat, the music 947 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,320 thing is going it's continuing to go as just takes forever. 948 01:02:52,980 --> 01:02:54,900 Because yeah, don't analyze all this stuff. And I don't want to 949 01:02:54,900 --> 01:02:58,560 pay $900 a month for a GPU instance on Linode. 950 01:02:59,219 --> 01:03:05,609 No, no, no, but we have a man. Okay. So do we. Yeah, that would 951 01:03:05,609 --> 01:03:08,489 be the one I'd love to see. Next. We'll have the harmony 952 01:03:08,489 --> 01:03:09,689 news. Yeah. 953 01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:13,980 Did we talk about that last week about the different search 954 01:03:13,980 --> 01:03:18,780 endpoints that there are now so I don't think maybe, that people 955 01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:22,380 can use now if you're for app developers that want to index 956 01:03:22,410 --> 01:03:25,470 they want to be able to search music. There's a search, there's 957 01:03:25,470 --> 01:03:29,370 more, you can search only music podcast. Now if you want to only 958 01:03:29,370 --> 01:03:33,270 find, you know, music, music stuff, you want to search within 959 01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:36,360 music stuff, and it'll just return only podcasts that have 960 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:37,890 been tagged with a music medium. 961 01:03:38,730 --> 01:03:41,910 That's that's pretty powerful. I like that. Yes, 962 01:03:41,909 --> 01:03:43,439 it needs me to use it. Well, 963 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:49,830 well, okay. It's, it's chicken in the egg, it's always going to 964 01:03:49,830 --> 01:03:53,490 be that if we put on our homepage or on our stats page. 965 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,910 This many feeds, you know, that music enabled or whatever the 966 01:03:59,910 --> 01:04:03,360 terminology is, and published that people will start like, oh, 967 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,360 that's just I can go to the value for Value tab and I can 968 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,870 get the value for value podcast. You do it for music. 969 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,020 And that'll get me really interest rate or On Demand. 970 01:04:13,260 --> 01:04:13,710 Right? Yeah. 971 01:04:13,710 --> 01:04:16,410 And then Okay, so we'll just have the traffic for now because 972 01:04:16,410 --> 01:04:18,900 the only other thing the only other app that does music that 973 01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:22,830 I'm aware of is curio caster, so we'll just we'll just keep that 974 01:04:22,860 --> 01:04:23,910 we'll get that started. 975 01:04:24,990 --> 01:04:27,690 Yeah, I thought about putting a little proof of concept a little 976 01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:32,700 demo app up that would just do Oh, that's even better than just 977 01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:35,940 a one single page Yeah, you know, little nothing at that 978 01:04:35,970 --> 01:04:38,400 that nobody's ever going to want to use as their Yeah, just as 979 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:39,150 your daily show a 980 01:04:39,150 --> 01:04:43,770 different layout. And by the way, grand dukes or David Foley 981 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:52,620 is remaking the no agenda Roku app, which guess they upgraded 982 01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:57,330 to the version 2.0 of the sparkle schnitzel, whatever, 983 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:02,550 whatever code you have to use for the if it's not schnitzel 984 01:05:02,550 --> 01:05:06,150 sparkle 2.0 Then they took that off. So, you know, some some 985 01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:10,410 great developer put this together years ago. So we got 986 01:05:10,410 --> 01:05:12,870 taken down and we can't find the guy he hasn't, you know, we 987 01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:15,060 don't know where he is. So David's gonna make a new one. 988 01:05:15,210 --> 01:05:19,140 And he knows how he has all the 2.0 she Parkinsonism sparkle 989 01:05:19,140 --> 01:05:24,270 stuff. And but he's I know he's listening. He's also then going 990 01:05:24,270 --> 01:05:26,610 to put a music thing in it's going to be interesting because 991 01:05:26,610 --> 01:05:30,150 the Rogan i It has audience, I got people saying, what 992 01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:35,730 happened? I always listened to the Roku. It's weird, but yeah, 993 01:05:36,150 --> 01:05:36,480 they're 994 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:41,460 doing a great music podcast, the Roku app would be really cool. 995 01:05:42,210 --> 01:05:46,440 Oh, yeah. It's like screaming for this integration. 996 01:05:47,010 --> 01:05:49,740 Oh, I would I would use I would actually use that a lot. Because 997 01:05:49,740 --> 01:05:53,310 we we do that a lot here in the house. We take you know, we'll 998 01:05:53,310 --> 01:05:57,090 use the Spotify app or Pandora or something like that. Just 999 01:05:57,090 --> 01:05:59,340 have music playing in the background. Yeah. Oh, I would 1000 01:05:59,340 --> 01:06:00,150 totally do that. 1001 01:06:00,210 --> 01:06:05,730 Well, you can also do it. All we want is one for value for value, 1002 01:06:05,730 --> 01:06:08,010 though. And David's got to put that in 1003 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,640 a note you mean I want to I want to 1004 01:06:11,639 --> 01:06:15,269 see confetti spewing on my TV screen from a Roku app. That's 1005 01:06:15,269 --> 01:06:16,199 what I want to see. 1006 01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:19,319 Oh, you boost straight from the remote. I haven't able mocha. 1007 01:06:19,770 --> 01:06:22,590 Yeah, maybe you can do that. I don't know might work. 1008 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,650 And then eventually we'll get them to put a boost button on 1009 01:06:25,650 --> 01:06:29,520 the remote. No, you don't want to sit on that. 1010 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,960 You're talking now you're talking I like that idea. 1011 01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:37,199 Ya know what you mean Ice Cube soup about proof of concept 1012 01:06:37,199 --> 01:06:42,119 apps. But but if I'm making if I make it crappy enough, nobody 1013 01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:45,869 will want to want to do so. I can solve that 1014 01:06:45,869 --> 01:06:48,539 problem. Wow, that's exciting. Can you also be also gonna put 1015 01:06:48,539 --> 01:06:51,929 it in this in the stats somewhere put the music feed. 1016 01:06:51,959 --> 01:06:54,959 Okay, let's do that. Let's drive we got to drive demand. And once 1017 01:06:54,959 --> 01:06:57,509 you here's what happens. Everyone's sitting around 1018 01:06:57,509 --> 01:07:01,589 waiting for us to do a tape. Just how it works. Which means 1019 01:07:01,589 --> 01:07:03,989 we just got to do it. Which means no which means you got to 1020 01:07:03,989 --> 01:07:06,359 do it. This is the problem. There's only one of you 1021 01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:14,639 know, that's how I started then Alice rescues me and then and 1022 01:07:14,639 --> 01:07:16,739 then we and then we have a product this is pretty this is 1023 01:07:16,739 --> 01:07:17,879 how this goes every time 1024 01:07:19,050 --> 01:07:21,510 well there's a lot of smart people out there who I'm sure 1025 01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:25,740 would love to help with some time and talent. True. So we 1026 01:07:25,740 --> 01:07:29,100 thank a few people who have been boosting us live it's been the 1027 01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:31,440 numbers are big today. Something's going on something 1028 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,070 in the air. 1029 01:07:32,670 --> 01:07:34,560 Oh yeah, sure. Yeah, that'd be great. 1030 01:07:34,590 --> 01:07:38,700 I'm not quite sure why but people are just oh wait yeah, 1031 01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:43,200 Bitcoin of course was Bitcoin. They're boosting. Boosting the 1032 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:48,540 dip is what they're doing chat F p back a p bebchuk. There you 1033 01:07:48,540 --> 01:07:52,950 go. problem exists between chair and keyboard. That's that's what 1034 01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:59,340 we're looking for. That's 20,000 SATs. Thank you Chad. 11,111 1035 01:07:59,340 --> 01:08:03,030 from na millennial. I wish I really wish someone would 1036 01:08:03,030 --> 01:08:06,210 automate the pod ping process with a simple scripting language 1037 01:08:06,210 --> 01:08:07,050 like Python. 1038 01:08:07,980 --> 01:08:12,990 It has been there's an example in the repo. You don't even need 1039 01:08:12,990 --> 01:08:14,400 Python. You can do it with 1040 01:08:14,789 --> 01:08:18,479 the command line or the shell script shell script. Yeah. So 1041 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:27,989 take that booster lujah booster. This is 111,111 Satoshis from 1042 01:08:27,989 --> 01:08:34,289 source D lit sticks Archie. Thank you very much 1212 from 1043 01:08:34,289 --> 01:08:39,689 tone wrecker. There's another source D with the same 111,111 1044 01:08:39,689 --> 01:08:44,399 Satoshis I think at this point I'd call out 20 is Blaze only 1045 01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:53,819 Impala more sticks and says go podcast go podcast now we have 1046 01:08:53,849 --> 01:09:01,529 100,000 SATs from Sam Sethi stars star of many podcasts 1047 01:09:03,149 --> 01:09:06,689 including Sam talks tech that is what it's called 1048 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,710 yeah in star of many buckets including ones that never 1049 01:09:10,710 --> 01:09:11,700 published an episode 1050 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,330 like the off the mic one which was off the mic had never even 1051 01:09:15,330 --> 01:09:15,930 published 1052 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,380 it was aborted before it was even born Sam says I would 1053 01:09:19,380 --> 01:09:19,710 prefer 1054 01:09:19,710 --> 01:09:23,160 activity pub was defined as a listener to listener messaging 1055 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,510 protocol get slash post and booster Graham's were defined as 1056 01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:30,960 a comment from listener to creator Oh, that's an 1057 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,440 interesting point. But agree adding Mastodon addresses to 1058 01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:39,000 hosts should be a no brainer also add rel equals me to 1059 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:44,160 profile for verification. Or inside of podcasts. txt or 1060 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:49,200 podcast person tags. Yes, I think Sam was seeing how things 1061 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,040 are fitting together. Yeah. Is he you know everyone's talking 1062 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,720 about his secret project. 1063 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,920 He's supposed to my understanding is they supposed 1064 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,280 to unveil say That secret project at Podcast Movement 1065 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:06,780 evolutions like when I don't know when that is but it's I 1066 01:10:06,780 --> 01:10:07,740 think oh will 1067 01:10:07,740 --> 01:10:12,090 it be with like like a party and a DJ and drinks no 1068 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,800 booth babes I don't know 1069 01:10:14,700 --> 01:10:16,980 that we call that entertainment it's 1070 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,340 that's where the billion dollars in podcasting is going right 1071 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,880 Brando sellers 25,000 simple old boost what we love that sorry 1072 01:10:26,910 --> 01:10:32,280 boost boost boost Brian of London 1948 I hate to say but we 1073 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,310 could do everything we do on Mastodon on the hive community. 1074 01:10:35,310 --> 01:10:46,950 Yeah Is there really? Yes if you get Dave Winer to set up a blog 1075 01:10:46,980 --> 01:10:48,360 on hive I will do it 1076 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,050 too. Right it will challenge 1077 01:10:54,450 --> 01:11:02,130 Okay, what else do we have here we have the striper boost 70 777 1078 01:11:02,130 --> 01:11:08,010 from Pfeiffer booster bust, and a test boost from me. Oh, here's 1079 01:11:09,210 --> 01:11:18,090 Dobby das from RSS. blue.com. Yeah. 21,100 21,001 Thank you 1080 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,480 prime. Prime boost. There you go. Thank you very much. Very 1081 01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:34,440 cool. Todd Cochran. Whoa, 180,420 20 blades on I am Paula. 1082 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,380 So it's like code man. 1083 01:11:37,860 --> 01:11:44,340 This theory is proven. is proven fully. I mean, you You abused 1084 01:11:44,340 --> 01:11:47,430 how you talk shit about Todd and he sends us 180,000 sets. I 1085 01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:48,990 mean, it's just this like, it's not it's 1086 01:11:49,499 --> 01:11:56,579 not just 180 120 130,000 for 20 Get it, though, just change to 1087 01:11:56,579 --> 01:11:58,949 get Alby because my node continues to have routing 1088 01:11:58,949 --> 01:12:02,519 issues. But as Adam recommend, as Brad Adam recommended, I'm 1089 01:12:02,519 --> 01:12:04,799 going to try that for a while Dave. Looking forward to the new 1090 01:12:04,799 --> 01:12:07,739 pod ping enhancement. Thank you for providing the stats output 1091 01:12:07,739 --> 01:12:10,589 we're looking for this is going to prove to be very valuable. 1092 01:12:10,589 --> 01:12:14,369 Hence the nice Satoshi boost today. See this is that thank 1093 01:12:14,369 --> 01:12:18,029 you. That's value for value. Beautiful. Thank you very much. 1094 01:12:18,329 --> 01:12:22,979 Glad glad to do it, Todd and anybody else that needs I mean, 1095 01:12:23,159 --> 01:12:27,359 if you need stuff from the API, just ask. I will always do my 1096 01:12:27,359 --> 01:12:28,259 best to get it to you. 1097 01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:31,950 I think that's what we have. From the Live booster grams. I 1098 01:12:31,950 --> 01:12:34,590 think blueberry shows up on your sheet. So you want to thank 1099 01:12:34,650 --> 01:12:37,590 these people in our value for value proposition which keeps 1100 01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:41,730 the entire shebang running, including $90 a month for 1101 01:12:41,730 --> 01:12:46,380 apparently. On house. 1102 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,640 We've got let's see. We got to pay pals. 1103 01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:54,630 Fiat Fu and fun coupons are always appreciated. 1104 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,700 One is from our buddy, Franco Celerio from Casta Matic. Hey, 1105 01:12:59,700 --> 01:13:07,710 Franco decent 6969 Nice. He's he says thank you, Adam, Dave, and 1106 01:13:07,710 --> 01:13:11,010 all the podcasting. 2.0 gang. Thank you, Franco, 1107 01:13:11,100 --> 01:13:19,590 Franco, Franco, man, let me give you some noise for that. 6969 He 1108 01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:21,150 didn't say it, but I know you wanted to hear it. 1109 01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:27,720 Oh, yeah, he wanted to $25 from Lowell. I'm going to try to say 1110 01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:34,590 his name. Lowell. brillant, b r i l l a n t e. Thank you. And 1111 01:13:34,590 --> 01:13:36,480 there's no note but thank you lo really 1112 01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:37,650 very much appreciate it. 1113 01:13:40,290 --> 01:13:45,720 We've got we've got lots of booster grams, but this is going 1114 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:50,490 to be a challenge because I am but it solved itself. It fixed 1115 01:13:50,490 --> 01:13:52,350 itself. My email wouldn't open. But now it's 1116 01:13:52,620 --> 01:13:55,080 oh, you know what, you know what's gonna come next? We 1117 01:13:55,080 --> 01:14:00,930 moved. just moments away from that. From that happening, we're 1118 01:14:00,930 --> 01:14:01,650 ready for you. 1119 01:14:01,950 --> 01:14:04,710 rebooted right before the show. So it's fine. It's not going to 1120 01:14:04,710 --> 01:14:06,510 do any isn't there's going to be zero problems. 1121 01:14:06,540 --> 01:14:08,790 I love the stability of your Linux. 1122 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:15,450 Yes. Chaos. 99 90,000. SAS to fountain Thank you. He says 1123 01:14:15,450 --> 01:14:19,050 boosting the NCAA discussion. We'll see now there you go. I 1124 01:14:19,050 --> 01:14:23,040 know it was boring. But we got a nice boost for it was my 1125 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,110 discussion of the NCAA of college football. I 1126 01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:27,060 didn't think that was boring. Did I say it was boring? 1127 01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:30,360 No. I said it was boring because I was boring. By the time I get 1128 01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:31,290 to the that's pretty 1129 01:14:31,290 --> 01:14:33,930 boring. If you're boring yourself. That is an issue. 1130 01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:40,500 Yeah. Thank you chaos 99 appreciate that. Donkey gave us 1131 01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:43,560 100 SATs and this is below the limit. But he says I was 1132 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,710 wondering if I could also put my fountain wallet address in the 1133 01:14:46,710 --> 01:14:49,650 Art Generator. Yeah. What do I need an ABI wallet which I don't 1134 01:14:49,650 --> 01:14:50,940 have. Yes, you can put that in the wallet. 1135 01:14:50,940 --> 01:14:56,130 Yeah. If it's your username at fountain was@fountain.fm Then 1136 01:14:56,130 --> 01:14:56,610 that's fine. 1137 01:14:57,150 --> 01:15:01,650 I think so and you do this also. Answer CSBs question because he 1138 01:15:01,650 --> 01:15:05,310 was asking about whether or not you could whether or not there 1139 01:15:05,310 --> 01:15:08,730 was a you could also use other wallets besides lbu using the 1140 01:15:08,730 --> 01:15:10,980 landing address format in Fountain is one of 1141 01:15:10,980 --> 01:15:13,020 those well, as long as it has it, yeah. 1142 01:15:14,460 --> 01:15:16,530 As long as a wallet exists, well, 1143 01:15:16,530 --> 01:15:20,490 as long as it has the known URL, thingamabob setup. 1144 01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:22,470 I think it does. Yeah, no, it 1145 01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:25,200 has your Yeah, it has to Yeah. Because that's how I look up. 1146 01:15:25,350 --> 01:15:26,760 You know, the custom key. 1147 01:15:27,780 --> 01:15:32,160 Yeah. Gene Everett 3333. And he says, boost 1148 01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:35,820 give me this one. 1149 01:15:37,980 --> 01:15:44,220 Sorry. That's no good behind you. Yes. Up in 1984. Sin is 1150 01:15:44,220 --> 01:15:47,880 3000 SATs and he says, to clarify on my boost about 1151 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,910 financial ramifications, the tags discussion gave me an idea 1152 01:15:51,180 --> 01:15:53,130 to avoid those financial ramifications through 1153 01:15:53,130 --> 01:15:56,760 automation. Human error is currently costing the company 1154 01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,080 Fiat fun coupons in this idea would reduce those errors. Also, 1155 01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,440 the idea has maybe a 10% chance of being implemented but there's 1156 01:16:04,440 --> 01:16:08,340 an r&d position opening up soon so I'm trying to get on 1157 01:16:08,340 --> 01:16:12,630 management's radar ahead of the competition. booths, very small 1158 01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:18,540 card. Mere Mortals podcast or buddy Karen big real estate's 1159 01:16:18,540 --> 01:16:22,470 11 111 through fountain and he says Good riddance to all the 1160 01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:32,820 good jokes. Yeah, dabba doo bows, the Bozak send us 1500 1161 01:16:32,820 --> 01:16:37,440 says through fountain No, no, thank you. Oh, here, we gotta 1162 01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:43,080 gotta read this one. It's 777 s below the limit. He says Venom's 1163 01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:46,230 black metal album was one of my favorites back in junior high. 1164 01:16:46,260 --> 01:16:53,070 Thanks for the nostalgic moment. Great. Franco Celerio also sent 1165 01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:59,880 us 6969 SATs. Whoa, whoa. And what else would he use besides 1166 01:17:00,090 --> 01:17:04,230 CAC asthmatic goes to grams, the latest two booster grants by 1167 01:17:04,230 --> 01:17:07,290 Franco Celerio. The ones without a message were not set by me. 1168 01:17:07,620 --> 01:17:10,560 Either a rogue AI has taken control of cast ematic and began 1169 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,740 sending SATs on his own will, during my debug sessions, or 1170 01:17:13,740 --> 01:17:16,380 somebody is impersonating me and sending his own money in my 1171 01:17:16,380 --> 01:17:17,850 name. No complaints. 1172 01:17:17,879 --> 01:17:19,769 V. O S. T. 1173 01:17:25,980 --> 01:17:27,360 Bag. Yeah, I'm trying 1174 01:17:27,959 --> 01:17:33,869 Karen Karen's back with another 111 111 He says unjustified 1175 01:17:33,869 --> 01:17:35,969 confidence is actually way better than justified 1176 01:17:35,969 --> 01:17:39,509 insecurity, you'll live a better life like that. Even if you get 1177 01:17:39,509 --> 01:17:44,129 yourself into a bit more trouble. I have, I can't argue 1178 01:17:44,129 --> 01:17:50,099 with that at all. On that, when it comes to justified belief, 1179 01:17:50,639 --> 01:17:55,079 there's a very good book by Alvin Plantinga, called warrant 1180 01:17:55,079 --> 01:17:59,129 and proper function. I would highly suggest it if anybody can 1181 01:17:59,129 --> 01:18:03,809 get there. And what's it about? It's about why is the 1182 01:18:03,809 --> 01:18:06,869 philosophical foundations for being confident in a belief 1183 01:18:07,769 --> 01:18:14,489 irrespective of how you get to irrespective of of the quality 1184 01:18:14,489 --> 01:18:21,059 of the proof. So you can believe how can we know say how can we 1185 01:18:21,059 --> 01:18:26,159 have confidence that the things we believe are true in the in 1186 01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:32,009 the capital T sense, even if they are things that don't have 1187 01:18:32,009 --> 01:18:34,259 that sort of empirical truth about them? 1188 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,770 Sounds like a page turner. 1189 01:18:40,230 --> 01:18:43,620 Yeah, if you're into epistemology, it will definitely 1190 01:18:43,620 --> 01:18:50,910 be Karen again, he's triple dipping to 22 to 22 through 1191 01:18:50,910 --> 01:18:54,750 curio caster, and he says, I watched the FTX debacle on many 1192 01:18:54,750 --> 01:18:58,050 different crypto podcasts and videos and came away with a new 1193 01:18:58,050 --> 01:19:03,480 takeaway. Many of them had been sponsored by FTX. backpedaling 1194 01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:06,840 embarrassment. Yeah. So the advertisement model isn't just 1195 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,710 since aureus, but also can the cast unpleasant reflections of 1196 01:19:10,710 --> 01:19:14,640 association. And then midway through, they would start 1197 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,480 talking about their sponsor crypto.com or Nexo or another 1198 01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:20,340 custodial exchange. Yeah. 1199 01:19:22,260 --> 01:19:25,950 I learned something just as as data continues to come in, which 1200 01:19:25,950 --> 01:19:29,100 I thought was interesting, which may help us understand a little 1201 01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:33,600 bit about the the reason why it could get out of hand like this. 1202 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,120 And all these so called sophisticated people had not 1203 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,960 really seen that there was no regulatory oversight. Turns out, 1204 01:19:40,050 --> 01:19:44,580 they spent about $2 billion on acquiring companies or pieces of 1205 01:19:44,580 --> 01:19:48,810 companies that already had regulatory approval. They even 1206 01:19:48,810 --> 01:19:52,830 had a heading forwards called regulatory acquisitions. So they 1207 01:19:52,830 --> 01:19:55,650 were starting to pick up bits and pieces of regulatory 1208 01:19:55,650 --> 01:20:00,210 approval by buying into or of wholly acquiring company needs 1209 01:20:00,210 --> 01:20:04,080 that had some form or some version of it and I can totally 1210 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:09,150 see Sequoia Capital going hey, you know we spend this money but 1211 01:20:09,150 --> 01:20:11,850 these guys are rolling up the it's gonna take forever to get 1212 01:20:11,850 --> 01:20:15,210 regulation but with these guys are rolling it up into one ball 1213 01:20:15,210 --> 01:20:18,900 there'll be the do whatever they want something like that. So 1214 01:20:18,930 --> 01:20:22,140 if you're buying your way into the system rather than building 1215 01:20:22,140 --> 01:20:22,320 it, 1216 01:20:22,379 --> 01:20:25,769 but basically the reason why no one caught it is because it's 1217 01:20:25,769 --> 01:20:29,249 the same way Wall Street. This is the same way everywhere. It's 1218 01:20:29,249 --> 01:20:30,059 all corrupt. 1219 01:20:30,630 --> 01:20:37,290 Did you did you read? The initial is the guy that's the 1220 01:20:37,290 --> 01:20:40,110 inner this the caretaker CEO right now that's doing all the 1221 01:20:40,110 --> 01:20:40,620 auditing? 1222 01:20:40,650 --> 01:20:44,730 Yeah, I know. He's the guy that that stepped in for Enron. 1223 01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:47,550 Ron. Yeah. That to me, 1224 01:20:47,850 --> 01:20:54,300 says cover up. That guy that guy was pulled in within seconds. 1225 01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:58,290 Oh, I wouldn't say though he blasted it from top to bottom. 1226 01:20:58,860 --> 01:21:03,270 Makes me feel even more certain he's covering up something. He's 1227 01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:05,430 gonna put the blame where the blame has to go. 1228 01:21:06,030 --> 01:21:09,180 Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. A lot of people did 1229 01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:13,530 not go to jail in the Enron thing. Some people die in jail. 1230 01:21:13,620 --> 01:21:16,650 He's there to clean it. He's the fees the cleanup guy. 1231 01:21:17,310 --> 01:21:18,420 He's the hatchet man. 1232 01:21:18,450 --> 01:21:21,120 No, he's clean. Oh, no, no, he's the cleanup. Yeah, he's cleaning 1233 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,290 up the bodies. Yeah, he's rolling stuff up in carpets. 1234 01:21:25,860 --> 01:21:27,990 He's chopping chopping limbs. 1235 01:21:28,110 --> 01:21:33,690 What he says when he points the thing, his his humongous finger 1236 01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:37,830 Aha. Is point gets pointed in the directions that it needs to 1237 01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:40,830 be pointed at. In order for the parade. It doesn't get pointed 1238 01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:43,830 that to not have to endure any real talent have any 1239 01:21:43,830 --> 01:21:47,280 connection to the Democratic Party. We can't have any elite 1240 01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,720 connections. We will throw celebrities under the bus. So 1241 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,950 you know Tom Brady, you know, on and on and on. That's the 1242 01:21:55,950 --> 01:21:58,170 distraction. That's what all the news reports are. 1243 01:21:58,650 --> 01:22:02,550 Oh, yeah. And it's. And then on the other side, you have Mitch 1244 01:22:02,580 --> 01:22:05,550 like Mitch McConnell taking donations from for his 1245 01:22:05,550 --> 01:22:09,030 leadership campaign. It's all all over the place. 1246 01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:12,600 But it's so beautiful because this this entire sham which was 1247 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:17,490 basically run by PR and people buying into the PR is now being 1248 01:22:17,490 --> 01:22:21,330 cleaned and covered up by the PR of Oh, geez. Did you hear what 1249 01:22:21,330 --> 01:22:24,630 the guys sorry to make you sound dumb? Did you hear what the guy 1250 01:22:24,630 --> 01:22:27,840 said? He was from Enron. It was all a mess. You didn't say it 1251 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,140 like that. But that's the trick. That's the trick is that yeah, 1252 01:22:31,140 --> 01:22:31,500 you did. 1253 01:22:31,710 --> 01:22:33,090 That's the way I sounded to myself. 1254 01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:34,800 That's the trick. 1255 01:22:36,180 --> 01:22:39,660 That he got me It sucked me in. Yeah, 1256 01:22:39,900 --> 01:22:42,540 it's just practice. That's the only reason and you know what 1257 01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:45,480 I'm doing a little bit of a dive on the guy. See what's going on. 1258 01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:48,900 Thank you, Karen 1259 01:22:49,740 --> 01:22:53,370 Kyron. Thanks for getting us on. That. was all about 1260 01:22:54,420 --> 01:22:59,850 12345. From SLC through fountain it says Argyle Park. Christian, 1261 01:22:59,970 --> 01:23:06,750 Christian NISC industrial metal techno. Okay. All right, Argyle 1262 01:23:06,750 --> 01:23:10,170 Park. Arg Wiley. Haven't heard of him, but I'll give him a 1263 01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:16,590 check. SLC again. 12345 Blue wallet got me my first K and C 1264 01:23:16,590 --> 01:23:21,420 box. Oh, nice. Man burgers for the fam. The keeper needs time 1265 01:23:21,420 --> 01:23:23,520 to get used to grass fed beef casting. 1266 01:23:25,890 --> 01:23:27,270 You finish your ground beef. 1267 01:23:27,959 --> 01:23:32,639 I've got one package left I've been doing. I've been eating a 1268 01:23:32,639 --> 01:23:35,669 hamburger at nine o'clock in the morning every morning for less. 1269 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:36,990 How you feel? 1270 01:23:38,130 --> 01:23:40,770 I'm feeling good. I think different windows made a big 1271 01:23:40,770 --> 01:23:41,280 difference. Do 1272 01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,480 you think you think it has made a difference? For your next 1273 01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:48,600 order if I just try something different? Okay, if I can 1274 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,750 recommend holy cow beef, holy cow. They're in Lubbock, Texas. 1275 01:23:52,140 --> 01:23:56,010 And they said you can buy the primal ground beef from them. 1276 01:23:56,670 --> 01:24:01,020 And that is ground beef, but it includes heart liver, the ground 1277 01:24:01,020 --> 01:24:04,650 up all the good stuff in there, as well with organ meats. Yes. 1278 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,170 And we tried some the other day. We were both like, Oh, do you 1279 01:24:07,170 --> 01:24:10,740 have to hold our nose? Nuts. It's just beautiful. You don't 1280 01:24:10,740 --> 01:24:16,260 take this? No. I mean, don't eat it raw. But but there's no 1281 01:24:16,260 --> 01:24:20,670 there's no real weird taste or smell or anything like that. And 1282 01:24:20,730 --> 01:24:22,830 okay, both are really good after eating it. 1283 01:24:23,490 --> 01:24:26,340 Yeah, yeah, I'll definitely do that. Alright, thanks. Cool. 1284 01:24:26,340 --> 01:24:26,700 That's that's 1285 01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:29,580 for that's for the next one. And it's a different flavor profile. 1286 01:24:29,580 --> 01:24:32,520 You know, they have different cows. It'll be fun to try it. 1287 01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:37,320 It's a little more it's probably a little more irony is a little 1288 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:38,700 bit more of a livery type 1289 01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:42,870 flavor to Tina. I know Tina made made taco meat with it. And it 1290 01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:46,920 was just like great taco meat. Oh, sweet. It was spicy because 1291 01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,820 she spiced it but you know, it was like, huh, tastes like spicy 1292 01:24:50,820 --> 01:24:55,680 shit liver. No, I didn't have that. But not at all. 1293 01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:02,070 Anonymous 22 to 22 Thank you anonymous no note 250 SATs from 1294 01:25:02,250 --> 01:25:04,920 Linda's gone it says we 1295 01:25:10,290 --> 01:25:13,770 David 1000 SATs first boost beginning 1296 01:25:14,910 --> 01:25:16,050 welcome booster 1297 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,920 3333 from Captain egg head no note from pod first thank you 1298 01:25:21,150 --> 01:25:27,750 6969 sets from Hey citizen pod first app. He says the molested 1299 01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:33,030 podcast indicates on the doll where the insertion Stop. Stop 1300 01:25:33,060 --> 01:25:34,050 really? 1301 01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:43,350 See blind apes in this Hunter SAS. Oh, that's um I'm getting 1302 01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:45,720 all out of whack here because I'm reading I'm reading 1303 01:25:45,930 --> 01:25:50,100 I'll say What are you reading? What are you doing? 1304 01:25:50,970 --> 01:25:54,270 I got out I got my email out of order. Oh there it is. Okay, I'm 1305 01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:58,260 back. 10,000 SATs from Sir dug in he just says boost 1306 01:25:59,340 --> 01:26:01,020 boost boost 1307 01:26:01,140 --> 01:26:06,150 floydian slips in his 5000 SATs through curio caster and 1308 01:26:06,150 --> 01:26:13,950 flooding slip says hugs and kisses. Oh let's see. Comic 1309 01:26:13,950 --> 01:26:17,040 Strip blogger. Oh, you know what? Comic Strip blogger? The 1310 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,850 Illuminati. He's Yeah, but he messed me up because he changed 1311 01:26:20,850 --> 01:26:21,570 his boost amount. 1312 01:26:22,260 --> 01:26:23,940 That's why he's boosting the dip for us. 1313 01:26:24,090 --> 01:26:26,550 He's boosting the dip. Yes, I'm gonna come back to comic strip 1314 01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:32,370 blog. Okay. Brown of London and have the EO 59,913 SAS and I 1315 01:26:32,370 --> 01:26:37,800 says it every Rose has its Thorn just like every night has his 1316 01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,410 Dawn Oh, that's who was as 1317 01:26:41,070 --> 01:26:45,180 warrant Well, no, no point no it's poison poison poison every 1318 01:26:45,180 --> 01:26:52,830 rose every Rose has a storm song every cow of all things the 1319 01:26:52,830 --> 01:26:59,580 same. Oh song. I love I love it when that delay kicks in and 1320 01:26:59,580 --> 01:27:03,270 we're singing if you if someone asked us to sing that way you 1321 01:27:03,270 --> 01:27:03,930 couldn't do it. 1322 01:27:05,730 --> 01:27:07,530 The Jerry's kid podcast No, because you're 1323 01:27:07,530 --> 01:27:10,620 exactly right behind me where it still works a synth Copic 1324 01:27:11,220 --> 01:27:15,540 Oh, beautiful. It says the beauty of clean feed. It is 1325 01:27:15,540 --> 01:27:21,990 blueberry 33 333 Yay. From the boost CLI. He says On last 1326 01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:28,740 week's mystery index listing podcast ID 5793896. Recently, I 1327 01:27:28,740 --> 01:27:32,130 discovered that you can view the RSS feeds for Mastodon profiles. 1328 01:27:32,490 --> 01:27:35,250 There was only one logical question to ask can I list a 1329 01:27:35,250 --> 01:27:39,090 mastodon feed in the index? Setting out like a lead cast in 1330 01:27:39,090 --> 01:27:45,570 a turn to Tarantino film? About what don't know what he's 1331 01:27:45,570 --> 01:27:50,280 saying. Setting out like a lead cast in a Tarantino film about 1332 01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:56,730 skits or NCIS Oh, I lost me boobie. I was right there with 1333 01:27:56,730 --> 01:27:57,240 you brother. 1334 01:27:57,510 --> 01:28:03,600 He loves the end No, you know if no if a mastodon feed magically 1335 01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:04,950 has an enclosure you can 1336 01:28:07,230 --> 01:28:09,180 do they have enclosures I don't 1337 01:28:09,180 --> 01:28:13,530 believe so. Oh, interesting. 1338 01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:17,610 Interesting or do they just have HTML? I bet they just let me 1339 01:28:17,610 --> 01:28:22,530 check right now podcast index dot socialist grinding we're in 1340 01:28:22,530 --> 01:28:24,540 our galaxy level of service. 1341 01:28:25,770 --> 01:28:27,720 We are Galaxy level we are 1342 01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:31,170 we are the Galaxy levels I just do wait I've got a follow up 1343 01:28:31,170 --> 01:28:34,740 note from him I've got to follow Oh Second Part Part Two the 1344 01:28:34,740 --> 01:28:37,710 booster Graham the booster Graham got cut off and he says 1345 01:28:38,850 --> 01:28:42,360 sitting out with a lead cast in a Tarantino film about scissors 1346 01:28:42,540 --> 01:28:46,500 a pulled the BTS feed up in hacked away combining info 1347 01:28:46,500 --> 01:28:49,590 format from both feeds this homemade one looks like feta 1348 01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:53,010 means monster not a joke. I was eventually able to make the 1349 01:28:53,010 --> 01:28:57,090 index list public posts, index list public posts from my 1350 01:28:57,090 --> 01:29:00,720 account. What I found is you can toot mp3 on Macedon and have 1351 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,020 those appear in the index with enough nudging does producing a 1352 01:29:04,020 --> 01:29:09,990 boost double toot. Oh, is that is that true? 1353 01:29:10,620 --> 01:29:13,230 I don't know. But I'll tell you that what I'm learning here is 1354 01:29:13,230 --> 01:29:20,850 that podcast index dot social RSS feeds are version 2.0. And 1355 01:29:20,850 --> 01:29:27,570 they declare the Yahoo media RSS namespace 1356 01:29:29,310 --> 01:29:31,380 they should be declaring the podcasts namespace 1357 01:29:31,589 --> 01:29:33,779 well it's yes of course they should. 1358 01:29:34,650 --> 01:29:38,250 Well I don't know exactly what he's what black voodoo he is 1359 01:29:38,250 --> 01:29:46,740 doing. But he for sure as gotten Toots to show up as episodes in 1360 01:29:46,740 --> 01:29:50,970 the index. What I don't understand 1361 01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:56,370 Ah wait on that on that that index ID 1362 01:29:56,940 --> 01:30:01,020 Yeah, just posted it in the in the chat in the In the chat room 1363 01:30:01,590 --> 01:30:07,890 that's the that's 57938960 Look 1364 01:30:07,890 --> 01:30:08,400 at that 1365 01:30:10,349 --> 01:30:14,849 I don't understand what he's doing here get spooky going 1366 01:30:14,849 --> 01:30:17,279 around these here parts 1367 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:27,300 so that's that's what plays me bitch. Oh crap that's 1368 01:30:27,300 --> 01:30:31,650 interesting so he has two episodes. The first two episodes 1369 01:30:31,650 --> 01:30:35,490 there's something spoken going and then it goes to spooked out 1370 01:30:35,490 --> 01:30:36,420 social 1371 01:30:37,770 --> 01:30:40,680 look looks like he's embedded something if I follow the 1372 01:30:40,860 --> 01:30:43,110 mastodon Linko spook does social 1373 01:30:45,090 --> 01:30:48,750 oh well he uploaded audio well let me take a look at this RSS 1374 01:30:48,750 --> 01:30:53,850 feed is just crazy. When that'd be nuts if you can tell this 1375 01:30:53,850 --> 01:30:56,730 page is not available. Okay, so he's hacked something 1376 01:30:57,090 --> 01:30:58,650 nonstandard, I guess. 1377 01:30:58,860 --> 01:31:04,110 www dot feed up behind the schemes.com/bb fi dot XML 1378 01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,960 Yeah, that's not as Mastodon feed. 1379 01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,560 We're gonna have to we're gonna have to figure something out 1380 01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:11,130 here. 1381 01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:17,460 I don't know also, yeah, I don't I don't see these posts on his 1382 01:31:17,610 --> 01:31:19,020 Mastodon per se. 1383 01:31:20,010 --> 01:31:28,260 All right, Bouverie code or it didn't happen. Let's see. See 1384 01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:35,310 Bouverie again. 80,000 Oh, eight big boob donation he says the 1385 01:31:35,310 --> 01:31:38,820 podcast index boosted through the podcast index website. 1386 01:31:38,850 --> 01:31:41,070 That's a massive boob donation. 1387 01:31:42,030 --> 01:31:47,070 80,000 Oh, that's I feel like that's a big baller shot caller 1388 01:31:47,070 --> 01:31:52,590 20 is blades on I am Paula. That's a double D boost. This 1389 01:31:52,590 --> 01:31:56,670 past Monday we played a game of chess on air for BTS the next 1390 01:31:56,670 --> 01:32:00,210 day I took the video recording of the match massage did and 1391 01:32:00,210 --> 01:32:02,400 produced a 45 minute GIF of the game 1392 01:32:07,650 --> 01:32:11,910 man madman you are a total madman. Slide that bad boy into 1393 01:32:11,910 --> 01:32:14,790 your chapters when the game starts and boom, you get real 1394 01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:18,870 time ish playback of chess in a nude podcast app. This goes out 1395 01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:22,110 the window if you skip around or listen at a faster rate. 1396 01:32:23,130 --> 01:32:26,520 There's another link here so he's jacked this on pod verse oh 1397 01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:32,730 man, can I love this this is this is oh there it is. Okay, so 1398 01:32:32,730 --> 01:32:36,210 if I hit this was not able to prepare Okay, so then I should 1399 01:32:36,210 --> 01:32:41,370 see this in the chapter and it should be my only logical cause 1400 01:32:41,730 --> 01:32:45,000 to this shouldn't I see the chapters here somewhere? A 1401 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,080 chapter here we go. 1402 01:32:47,310 --> 01:32:50,340 This is not just scissors this is way beyond scissors this is 1403 01:32:50,340 --> 01:32:50,850 like hedge 1404 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,810 hedge hedge hedge cutters or whatever you clip oh my goodness 1405 01:32:54,810 --> 01:32:58,440 yes I see it you got a big 1406 01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:04,560 is a 45 minutes that's got to be like a 300 meg GIF. 1407 01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:11,340 I don't know can I save image yeah BTS chapter chess long was 1408 01:33:11,340 --> 01:33:14,190 take a look. I'll tell you how big it is 1409 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,830 I hope people actually enjoy us doing dumb stuff. Six mags not 1410 01:33:22,830 --> 01:33:29,400 too bad it must be Jeff Jeff chest Jeff 1411 01:33:29,820 --> 01:33:32,520 is just about 120 it's 1412 01:33:32,879 --> 01:33:38,279 it's a standard size chest Wow, that's a new one for me. 1413 01:33:39,270 --> 01:33:41,550 All right. You're a madman 1414 01:33:41,580 --> 01:33:44,550 one of the one of these days people figure out the incredible 1415 01:33:44,550 --> 01:33:51,270 utility of of the chapter images links all of it. Follow up for 1416 01:33:51,270 --> 01:33:54,450 your advertisers even if you want people come on get it 1417 01:33:54,450 --> 01:33:55,710 together. We'll be the 1418 01:33:55,830 --> 01:34:00,660 one we're giving you the tools to go fish, comic strip blogger 1419 01:34:00,660 --> 01:34:03,600 the delimiter 33,015. Sets Yeah. 1420 01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:14,610 This is David Adam. May you and your listeners be invited to 1421 01:34:14,610 --> 01:34:17,640 embrace the unavoidable Fourth Industrial Revolution by putting 1422 01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:21,000 an AI dot cooking into your web browsers or podcast apps 1423 01:34:21,210 --> 01:34:23,940 featuring multiple articles charting the AI revolution, 1424 01:34:24,090 --> 01:34:27,630 knowledge and history corners, all covered by former crypto day 1425 01:34:27,630 --> 01:34:31,530 trader and to time parents Gregory Forman, yo. 1426 01:34:33,660 --> 01:34:37,830 Thank you so much composter blogger. Well done. Thank you 1427 01:34:37,830 --> 01:34:42,210 all, though you have monthlies what do we have monthly? Okay, 1428 01:34:42,210 --> 01:34:42,990 monthlies. 1429 01:34:43,860 --> 01:34:50,520 Sir Ali's gates night of the podcasting 2.0. Project $25 The 1430 01:34:50,550 --> 01:34:55,830 one and only night I might add a focus very much. 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If yours doesn't go to 1447 01:35:56,310 --> 01:36:00,720 new podcast apps.com or the ultra cool version, nude podcast 1448 01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:04,470 apps.com Get yourself an app that boosts and boosts us to 1449 01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:08,100 your heart's delight, especially during the dip. Thank you. Thank 1450 01:36:08,100 --> 01:36:14,100 you for supporting us very, very much. Now I gotta keep you on 1451 01:36:14,100 --> 01:36:18,090 time. So if you want to start an argument, then now's the time. 1452 01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,760 Go I gotta I gotta get you back to the office. Man. You're busy, 1453 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,790 busy. When does this end? We miss you 1454 01:36:27,150 --> 01:36:30,480 know, I'm, I'm off the rest of the day. Oh, the rest of the 1455 01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:31,350 day. Oh, 1456 01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:32,370 okay. I thought you started. 1457 01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,610 We started late. But we got. We got? No, I 1458 01:36:35,610 --> 01:36:38,190 thought you had to go late. Or you had to go back to the 1459 01:36:38,190 --> 01:36:38,760 office? 1460 01:36:39,090 --> 01:36:41,820 No, man, I'm good to go for today. I'm not and I'm off next 1461 01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:45,180 week for the Thanksgiving. Which Which brings up a point. Well, 1462 01:36:45,180 --> 01:36:47,070 we're both not be having a show next week. Yeah, we 1463 01:36:47,070 --> 01:36:51,060 will not be having a show for the Thanksgiving festivities. 1464 01:36:51,330 --> 01:36:55,110 Quite honestly, I don't know of any corporation anywhere that 1465 01:36:55,110 --> 01:37:02,130 has a board meeting between basically on Black Friday. Yeah, 1466 01:37:02,220 --> 01:37:05,880 so So yes, there'll be no board big now. What's interesting is 1467 01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:10,590 the week after that, I hope to be able to conduct a board 1468 01:37:10,590 --> 01:37:10,920 meeting. 1469 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,300 I think we can and I think it's going to be similar thing to 1470 01:37:15,300 --> 01:37:18,660 today. I've got to do a presentation, a actually a 1471 01:37:18,660 --> 01:37:24,120 Bitcoin presentation for a bunch of lawyers. So it's like a CPE 1472 01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,540 thing for them. And so I'm gonna do I'm gonna do that. And 1473 01:37:27,540 --> 01:37:31,170 that's, that's it like 11 o'clock. So I shouldn't be in 1474 01:37:31,170 --> 01:37:33,180 and then just going to take the rest of the day off after that. 1475 01:37:33,180 --> 01:37:37,440 So I'll be should be able to hit the show around two o'clock, I 1476 01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:37,830 think 1477 01:37:37,890 --> 01:37:40,290 and that is Friday the 25th. 1478 01:37:42,990 --> 01:37:44,730 No, that's no idea. The second 1479 01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:50,760 Okay, so the second so here's the thing. I may not be capable 1480 01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,640 of doing the show. Because you're having your mouth surgery 1481 01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:59,190 that way. On Tuesday. Yeah. So we're thinking it should not be 1482 01:37:59,190 --> 01:38:02,280 a problem. But let's just know that we might have to do it 1483 01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:02,910 Saturday. 1484 01:38:03,570 --> 01:38:06,810 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll just play it by ear as you feel 1485 01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:07,950 you know, based on your health. 1486 01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:10,050 It's just if I can talk that's all 1487 01:38:11,670 --> 01:38:12,840 you can be so goals. 1488 01:38:14,910 --> 01:38:22,320 Oh. I am so anxious about it. Like are you nervous? Or never 1489 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,200 I've never been knocked out. I've never had an issue. I'm 1490 01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:27,330 more nervous about the anesthesia than about the 1491 01:38:27,330 --> 01:38:30,750 procedure. And then I know what the procedure is done then I 1492 01:38:30,750 --> 01:38:36,120 just know you know, it's a process temporaries I have a 1493 01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:40,140 bone marrow transplant because of bone loss. So that has to 1494 01:38:40,140 --> 01:38:46,140 heal. So that takes two three months, then the actual implants 1495 01:38:46,140 --> 01:38:50,400 come. So it's just a I feel sorry 1496 01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:50,970 for you brother. 1497 01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:55,260 No, I appreciate it. But I should have done this. Honestly 1498 01:38:55,260 --> 01:38:59,580 is eight nine years ago I should have this is just hey, you know 1499 01:38:59,580 --> 01:39:03,210 some people got a weak heart. My head's falling apart. We're 1500 01:39:03,210 --> 01:39:11,310 gonna everyone's got something this is me. This is this is my 1501 01:39:11,310 --> 01:39:16,620 thing. This is my mechanical and mouth mouth stuff. But it's 1502 01:39:16,620 --> 01:39:19,050 important that's what I have to do it because it's so important 1503 01:39:19,050 --> 01:39:22,740 for your overall health. It is really affects your health in 1504 01:39:22,740 --> 01:39:23,730 crazy ways. 1505 01:39:24,450 --> 01:39:28,230 Now you're you're thinking you were told by the mother dental 1506 01:39:28,230 --> 01:39:30,660 surgeon that this is going to help your sinuses too, right. 1507 01:39:30,660 --> 01:39:31,050 Yeah, 1508 01:39:31,290 --> 01:39:36,510 I've I've had we couldn't figure out why I was so allergic after 1509 01:39:36,540 --> 01:39:39,450 never having that in my life and then moving to Texas and it was 1510 01:39:39,450 --> 01:39:42,510 kind of coincidental. But yeah, I've had this, this low level 1511 01:39:42,510 --> 01:39:46,350 kind of infection up near my upper molars and they have been 1512 01:39:46,350 --> 01:39:48,540 just whenever I eat, which I always thought oh, I'm going to 1513 01:39:48,540 --> 01:39:51,150 restaurant in Austin boy. Oh, there it is. I've got the 1514 01:39:51,150 --> 01:39:52,350 allergy again. No, 1515 01:39:52,710 --> 01:39:56,790 I'm chewing. Oh, and that's releasing the Yes. And that 1516 01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:57,180 sends it 1517 01:39:57,180 --> 01:40:00,210 off and then you know then the sinuses start flowing. Then 1518 01:40:00,210 --> 01:40:00,660 you're done. 1519 01:40:01,230 --> 01:40:06,600 That's amazing. It's crazy how that we always look for things 1520 01:40:06,630 --> 01:40:11,280 we look for. What are you gonna cut like causation? For 1521 01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:16,590 correlate? You know, we're like, Oh, yeah. For years. Yeah, it 1522 01:40:16,590 --> 01:40:19,560 makes so much sense that this was just one thing but it's not. 1523 01:40:20,370 --> 01:40:24,960 And all it took was like a five minute CT scan, which I'd never 1524 01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,120 done one of those but that's, you know you put your head in 1525 01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:31,080 there. Okay, and then yeah, just go take a look. drill right down 1526 01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:32,940 through your head. Oh, look, there's the there's the 1527 01:40:32,940 --> 01:40:36,750 inflammation right on an East Side view, rotate, enhance zoom, 1528 01:40:37,020 --> 01:40:37,770 arrest him. 1529 01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:41,550 Kill us up the address. 1530 01:40:42,270 --> 01:40:44,460 Oh, wait, I see something in the reflection on the bumper. 1531 01:40:47,250 --> 01:40:51,360 Let's see. But, you know, Alex Bosworth? 1532 01:40:52,020 --> 01:40:55,050 Yes. From balance of Satoshis. Yes, the 1533 01:40:55,050 --> 01:40:59,940 balance of Satoshis. The guy tool. If people don't know what 1534 01:40:59,940 --> 01:41:02,700 balance Satoshi is, it's a it's a it's a, it's written in 1535 01:41:02,700 --> 01:41:06,600 JavaScript. But it's a command line tool to let you pull all of 1536 01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:10,620 your transactions. It does a lot of stuff. I mean, it's like a 1537 01:41:10,620 --> 01:41:14,550 Swiss Army knife of lightning Node Management. But one of the 1538 01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:16,890 things it does it has an accounting function. So you can 1539 01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:22,110 run baz the name of this named Toby OS boss space, accounting, 1540 01:41:22,650 --> 01:41:25,860 space, and then a bunch of options Command Line switches to 1541 01:41:25,860 --> 01:41:30,780 pull down your lightning know transactions for certain time 1542 01:41:30,780 --> 01:41:34,110 periods and things. Then you can also say, okay, resolve it to 1543 01:41:34,110 --> 01:41:42,630 fiat, so it will produce this nice CSV file of, let's just say 1544 01:41:42,630 --> 01:41:45,810 all the transactions for the month of, of 1545 01:41:45,870 --> 01:41:48,780 of a dozen residue, if it doesn't run out of memory after 1546 01:41:48,780 --> 01:41:53,190 three hours what exactly I did running everywhere that I gave 1547 01:41:53,190 --> 01:41:56,910 up on balance of Soto's except for doing report, I think I 1548 01:41:56,910 --> 01:42:00,900 think report just, I could get a report out of it, but nothing, 1549 01:42:00,900 --> 01:42:02,730 nothing. I couldn't do anything else. 1550 01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:06,900 Okay, well, through working with him on that issue, because I was 1551 01:42:06,900 --> 01:42:13,860 trying to, I will, on a monthly basis, what I do is download, I 1552 01:42:13,860 --> 01:42:19,530 use bars, or was using bars to download all the transactions 1553 01:42:19,530 --> 01:42:23,280 out of our lightning node into a CSV file for the month. So as 1554 01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,890 soon as let's just say if it gets if it's, as soon as the 1555 01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:31,080 June is June 1 hits, I'll grab all of Mays transactions into a 1556 01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:36,390 CSV ends in and have because that way you can have it resolve 1557 01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:41,730 the Trent the SATs into Fiat, on the fair market value of the day 1558 01:42:41,730 --> 01:42:42,930 that the transaction happened. 1559 01:42:43,260 --> 01:42:47,220 Yeah, that's so cool. And boss does that right? It looks up 1560 01:42:47,250 --> 01:42:51,060 does a date that even the time or just the day, close price. 1561 01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,300 I think it's the closing price of the day. It is through you 1562 01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:56,820 can go through one or the you can go through coin desk or coin 1563 01:42:56,820 --> 01:43:00,660 Gecko to resolve those amounts. Right. And it was working fine 1564 01:43:00,660 --> 01:43:04,410 until April. Then when I tried to pull maize. This has been a 1565 01:43:04,410 --> 01:43:08,670 few months ago. It just crapped the bed. I mean, like it. It 1566 01:43:08,670 --> 01:43:14,520 crashed, memory exhausted, done. Okay, so I haven't been using it 1567 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,410 since. And I was like, Okay, well, at the end by that 1568 01:43:16,410 --> 01:43:18,420 sometime by the end of the year, we have to get this resolved, 1569 01:43:18,420 --> 01:43:22,920 because we'll need to pull our accounting for taxes. So I just 1570 01:43:23,010 --> 01:43:25,290 started getting in there while I was working. I couldn't get it 1571 01:43:25,290 --> 01:43:30,690 to work. Through working with Alex Bosworth in the telegram 1572 01:43:30,690 --> 01:43:34,740 channel. We went back and forth. And he he found the issue and 1573 01:43:34,740 --> 01:43:38,370 fixed it. Really what was it? Yes, it was just a memory 1574 01:43:38,370 --> 01:43:42,030 management thing. He was pulling. He said that it's got 1575 01:43:42,030 --> 01:43:45,330 to do with the way he was pulling the transit the settled 1576 01:43:45,330 --> 01:43:49,440 invoices out. He was pulling them all at once, all at once, 1577 01:43:49,740 --> 01:43:53,400 and then filtering, rather than pulling just the filtered 1578 01:43:53,700 --> 01:43:56,610 invoices. That was That's my layman's understanding of what 1579 01:43:56,610 --> 01:44:01,170 he was doing. But he pushed a couple of changes. Finally, we 1580 01:44:01,170 --> 01:44:05,760 found the right combination of things. And it's fixed this and 1581 01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:09,150 then I ran it and took about nine hours. 1582 01:44:09,870 --> 01:44:11,550 Well, for what for one month? 1583 01:44:11,850 --> 01:44:19,410 No for May through October. So I ran month 56789 and 10. So it 1584 01:44:19,410 --> 01:44:25,830 took nine and a half hours. And it produced. Let's see, two is 1585 01:44:25,830 --> 01:44:29,730 like something like two not 2,900,000 transactions. 1586 01:44:30,030 --> 01:44:35,820 Oh man, what's what version is? is updating? Do you know? 1587 01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,960 It's 13 point 5.1 is where the fixes are. 1588 01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:42,150 I'm on 11 How the hell did that happen? That's 1589 01:44:42,150 --> 01:44:43,320 no yeah, you're way behind. 1590 01:44:45,210 --> 01:44:47,430 I must have to get a different repo or something 1591 01:44:48,150 --> 01:44:52,380 I can't find had the stats, but I can't find it. But I was 1592 01:44:52,380 --> 01:44:55,800 trying to find the exact count. But there so it had I mean there 1593 01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,460 were there was a lot of transactions. So we're we're 1594 01:44:59,460 --> 01:45:03,660 well over Are 5 million transactions now? In our l&d 1595 01:45:03,660 --> 01:45:05,310 data processing crazy. 1596 01:45:06,990 --> 01:45:12,780 What's even crazier is that no one no one in any of the initial 1597 01:45:12,780 --> 01:45:16,500 development lightning labs anywhere, no one has anyone 1598 01:45:16,500 --> 01:45:18,810 really considered that this will be used for I don't know, 1599 01:45:18,810 --> 01:45:25,560 micropayments. Right. This is what this is, what gets me is 1600 01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:26,580 just insane. 1601 01:45:27,449 --> 01:45:30,929 But it works. That's the, that's the even more insane part, this 1602 01:45:30,929 --> 01:45:34,169 is how it works. Somehow these millions of transactions, it 1603 01:45:34,169 --> 01:45:35,639 just keeps on chugging. Well, when 1604 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:40,380 you do not discount to the community. You know, I was, I've 1605 01:45:40,380 --> 01:45:42,600 been reading a lot about networks, particularly, you 1606 01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,720 know, my interest in networks has always been there. But, you 1607 01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:49,860 know, kicking a G 20, Member off of Swift, you know, what kind of 1608 01:45:49,860 --> 01:45:53,910 implications does that have, I'm interested in, in networks. And 1609 01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,420 ultimately, the network is just, it's a network, but it's what's 1610 01:45:57,420 --> 01:46:03,840 connected to the network. And our nodes are peering our 1611 01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:08,880 routing with, you know, with the players with the players. We got 1612 01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:12,450 the players, they got the swagger, you know, we have 1613 01:46:12,570 --> 01:46:16,920 breeze, we got our B, we got an LM PE with a fountain, it's 1614 01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:20,520 like, the the players are connected, and we got the, the 1615 01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:24,330 smaller individual nodes, and there's all kinds of people like 1616 01:46:25,230 --> 01:46:28,590 Orson Welles or whatever, Steve Jobs who comes in with 10 1617 01:46:28,590 --> 01:46:32,310 million sat channels, and it's the community that makes it work 1618 01:46:32,340 --> 01:46:36,090 otherwise, and Trudeau Justin Trudeau otherwise, it just 1619 01:46:36,090 --> 01:46:40,440 wouldn't work at all. So chapeau Bye, everybody. Good job, 1620 01:46:40,440 --> 01:46:46,470 everybody. That's a wrap. Well done for today. Else, 1621 01:46:46,740 --> 01:46:49,170 I had another I had one more thing I want to throw at you 1622 01:46:49,170 --> 01:46:54,540 ensure I feel like we can do some sort of lightning liquidity 1623 01:46:54,540 --> 01:46:55,170 checker. 1624 01:46:56,070 --> 01:46:58,950 Oh, yeah. You were paying me about this. 1625 01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:03,780 I don't necessarily want to go too far down this hole. But I 1626 01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:08,340 feel like that could be a thing that we have a thing that we 1627 01:47:08,370 --> 01:47:12,510 offer. Because in here, here's the here's the way it looks to 1628 01:47:12,510 --> 01:47:16,350 me in my head, let me just let me just hit you with this thing. 1629 01:47:18,300 --> 01:47:24,180 If, if we rule out the big nodes, so anything, we just look 1630 01:47:24,180 --> 01:47:27,480 at, look at all the we look at the node IDs is okay, we're, 1631 01:47:27,660 --> 01:47:31,230 we're not going to bother checking anything that's on LM 1632 01:47:31,230 --> 01:47:36,000 pay for anything that's own lb, or fountain or whatever. Like we 1633 01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,690 just kind of toss those out. What you're left with is going 1634 01:47:39,690 --> 01:47:46,410 to be mostly private nodes. So people like Todd, who are 1635 01:47:46,410 --> 01:47:50,550 running their own roles and things like that. If on a 1636 01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:55,800 periodic basis, I don't know, once every few hours, six hours 1637 01:47:55,800 --> 01:48:01,140 or so we just do a test route to them and see if a payment would 1638 01:48:01,140 --> 01:48:05,820 fail. We don't we don't even have to send anything we just do 1639 01:48:05,820 --> 01:48:12,150 a test a route payment. And see if it would if it would not 1640 01:48:12,150 --> 01:48:20,250 route. We display that status. Some were to them or I don't 1641 01:48:20,250 --> 01:48:23,040 know, that's the part I don't know about is how to make that 1642 01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:27,240 public. But when we could make that have that information 1643 01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:30,750 available is basically trying to give an early warning system to 1644 01:48:31,140 --> 01:48:33,300 hey, you're having a liquidity issue. 1645 01:48:34,140 --> 01:48:38,730 It's a nice thing to do. I'm a little worried that it's just 1646 01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:45,660 fixing a an ephemeral problem. This is all going to fix itself. 1647 01:48:46,980 --> 01:48:50,490 You know, Todd's problem fix itself. She went to UK he went 1648 01:48:50,490 --> 01:48:51,060 to Aldi 1649 01:48:51,810 --> 01:48:54,180 Yeah, I guess I just don't want to I don't want to force people 1650 01:48:54,180 --> 01:48:55,560 to get a custodial. 1651 01:48:56,010 --> 01:49:02,700 No, no, you see, but Okay, so you but it's not our job. It's 1652 01:49:02,700 --> 01:49:05,940 the umbrellas of the world to do a better job to start nines of 1653 01:49:05,940 --> 01:49:09,330 the world. This is their job. This is their job. And this is 1654 01:49:09,330 --> 01:49:15,630 their job. It's also breeze and it's also the with the guys. You 1655 01:49:15,630 --> 01:49:19,410 know, the lightning service providers, those that they're 1656 01:49:19,440 --> 01:49:21,930 ramping up, they're going to come in and start offering you 1657 01:49:21,930 --> 01:49:25,110 don't have to this is what I love about the breeze wallet. I 1658 01:49:25,110 --> 01:49:30,060 have $500 in Satoshis in my breeze wallet. And that's what I 1659 01:49:30,060 --> 01:49:33,780 used to pay for stuff and why do I love it? I don't have to think 1660 01:49:33,780 --> 01:49:37,440 about the liquidity ever. It's just there. 1661 01:49:40,830 --> 01:49:43,890 Yeah, yeah, I guess Yeah, I guess you're right. 1662 01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:48,030 Well, I just we have so much to do and I know you just I know 1663 01:49:48,030 --> 01:49:53,130 you as much you hate as much as I do. It goes like this. Post a 1664 01:49:53,130 --> 01:49:59,700 picture. Your shirts broken. Yeah. And you look at it and 1665 01:49:59,700 --> 01:50:02,460 like well Well, you know that you gotta go through the dance, 1666 01:50:02,460 --> 01:50:05,070 you know what app you're using where you're boosting from, you 1667 01:50:05,070 --> 01:50:07,770 gotta look, where's your it's just like, it's all good, I 1668 01:50:07,770 --> 01:50:11,100 think it's going to get solved. I mean, everything points 1669 01:50:11,100 --> 01:50:18,750 towards liquidity being managed in an in a, in a self sovereign 1670 01:50:18,750 --> 01:50:22,440 way, that you'll just be renting liquidity, but it's still your 1671 01:50:22,440 --> 01:50:25,440 keys, you own the transaction power, etc. 1672 01:50:26,130 --> 01:50:29,940 Yeah. And if your liquidity provider bails or something, you 1673 01:50:29,940 --> 01:50:34,050 just go get another one. Yeah, that makes sense. I guess 1674 01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:37,830 this is building out so fast. I mean, I wish I wish I had time 1675 01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:41,970 to learn to code. Because I had this. Every day I wake up, 1676 01:50:41,970 --> 01:50:47,940 there's another, I was listening to some podcast. And this is 1677 01:50:47,940 --> 01:50:50,340 actually may be the stuff that reminded me of, I think, what 1678 01:50:50,340 --> 01:50:54,570 happened to Sphinx, maybe they were getting into this. And as a 1679 01:50:54,570 --> 01:50:59,310 company that's now going to electricity providers. So like, 1680 01:50:59,310 --> 01:51:02,970 go to the co op here. And their pitch is would you like to get 1681 01:51:02,970 --> 01:51:07,590 your money faster? Yeah, and they all go Yeah, because 1682 01:51:07,590 --> 01:51:12,030 they're dealing with, you know, month long turnaround times, 1683 01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:15,720 risk of people not paying after 30 days and not being able to 1684 01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:19,710 pay. And so they're doing in essence value for value 1685 01:51:19,710 --> 01:51:24,810 streaming of Satoshis for for megawatts, or for kilowatts, or 1686 01:51:24,810 --> 01:51:29,160 for watts. And well, and so yeah, so you fill up your, you 1687 01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:35,460 fill up your energy wallet. And at the, you know, every single 1688 01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:39,300 watt, I guess, every watt that you your whatever, I guess the 1689 01:51:39,300 --> 01:51:42,630 VA, that's gonna want to be kilowatts, every kilowatt that 1690 01:51:42,630 --> 01:51:47,790 you use, you pay your eight 910 cents in SATs at the market 1691 01:51:47,790 --> 01:51:54,060 price at that moment, at the at the moment, you use it as an 1692 01:51:54,060 --> 01:51:58,890 instant clip, and it cuts out five steps in between. Because 1693 01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,190 along the way, they've basically seen that you can do splits, 1694 01:52:02,550 --> 01:52:05,220 because it's not just the electricity provider, you know, 1695 01:52:05,220 --> 01:52:08,520 there's all these different pieces down the line, including 1696 01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:11,430 where your coop gets their electricity from, so you can 1697 01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:15,450 split it all off right away and strip out. I think they 1698 01:52:15,450 --> 01:52:20,850 calculated between 10 and 15% money that's just lost that 1699 01:52:20,850 --> 01:52:24,270 ultimately, you're paying for as a customer, because of the 1700 01:52:24,270 --> 01:52:29,280 inefficiencies of the system. So I just wake up in the middle of 1701 01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:33,930 the night with these ideas, and my urges to call you and I think 1702 01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,240 oh no, we already have a great project going What am I doing? 1703 01:52:37,710 --> 01:52:40,020 I got a great idea. Let's do energy. 1704 01:52:40,590 --> 01:52:44,250 All I want. My life will be perfect. If you too. Dave Jones 1705 01:52:44,430 --> 01:52:48,360 could retire from corporate life. Everything else is fine 1706 01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:48,750 for me. 1707 01:52:49,710 --> 01:52:51,240 Yeah, work. 1708 01:52:52,380 --> 01:52:55,560 I love you. Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to you my 1709 01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,050 brother Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. 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