1 00:00:00,390 --> 00:00:05,520 Adam Curry Jhansi devora Sunday April 11 2021 this is your award 2 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:09,630 winning give on nation media assassination Episode 1337 This 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,840 is no agenda feelin 4 00:00:14,429 --> 00:00:18,089 broadcasting almost live from opportunity's own 33 here in the 5 00:00:18,089 --> 00:00:20,879 frontier of Austin, Texas Capitol in the drone Star State 6 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:23,129 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry 7 00:00:23,270 --> 00:00:27,470 and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're live to tape. Live 8 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:28,970 to tape. I'm John C Dvorak 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,260 buzzkill. 10 00:00:33,180 --> 00:00:34,920 Live, we're doing live. 11 00:00:35,580 --> 00:00:36,390 Happy leet 12 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:41,250 I believe man, big, big number. Big number three, seven, 13 00:00:41,250 --> 00:00:41,340 a 14 00:00:41,340 --> 00:00:44,310 big number for the show. This is the one that everyone wants to 15 00:00:44,310 --> 00:00:47,760 be an executive producer of and I think you will be very happy 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,900 with that because we have a special while john and i are 17 00:00:51,900 --> 00:00:58,320 still resting up and preparing for COVID 2021. Because, cuz, 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,010 you know, 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,290 you know that's coming. You want to let up on it. 20 00:01:01,710 --> 00:01:06,510 This is unbelievable. So we're still on our break. And as we 21 00:01:06,510 --> 00:01:11,700 were getting ready to record this we were looking for the 22 00:01:11,700 --> 00:01:14,880 name of the executive producer who did this because he also did 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,400 John's stories and that aired now is this the last time we 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:25,140 took off? I think so. No one was so that was Episode 12 on 25 00:01:25,140 --> 00:01:31,620 December 22 2019 so we've been going nonstop for over two 26 00:01:31,620 --> 00:01:33,090 years. No, no, 27 00:01:33,149 --> 00:01:35,039 that's 2019 2018 28 00:01:35,670 --> 00:01:39,930 okay 2019 to go all the way for 20 so December All right. Okay, 29 00:01:39,930 --> 00:01:42,630 there you go. So yeah, guess what you kind of 15 months Yeah, 30 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:47,760 right but about 15 months Okay, that was right. Well, good. We 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,520 deserve this time off. Are you enjoying yourself on your time 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:50,910 off? 33 00:01:51,330 --> 00:01:53,430 Oh, yeah, I'm having the time of my life 34 00:01:54,990 --> 00:01:55,980 to do clips 35 00:01:57,210 --> 00:02:01,860 you are sitting at home by yourself on the on the interface 36 00:02:01,860 --> 00:02:07,650 just hanging out in the chaise in the chaise shade now it's 37 00:02:07,650 --> 00:02:10,470 been quite a while since I've heard this but we had john 38 00:02:10,470 --> 00:02:11,910 stories, whichever we 39 00:02:12,450 --> 00:02:13,710 give credit to our 40 00:02:13,740 --> 00:02:16,350 Sir, sir. Good waffle. So Rubin walk. Yes, 41 00:02:16,350 --> 00:02:19,500 sir. Yes, he shows. 42 00:02:20,010 --> 00:02:23,370 I wanted to be syrup and waffles. That's why it's syrup 43 00:02:23,370 --> 00:02:23,730 and was 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,820 waffles. Okay, that could be 45 00:02:27,420 --> 00:02:29,070 syrup, syrup and waffle. 46 00:02:29,070 --> 00:02:32,910 Yes, exactly. So he did these two shows together. So these are 47 00:02:32,910 --> 00:02:37,920 the same era of anecdotes, we of course, we didn't tell as many 48 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:41,310 stories during 2020, because it was a year of the COVID. 49 00:02:41,340 --> 00:02:43,740 We were listening to the biggest tale ever told. 50 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:49,020 And so yes, we don't need to do our own material. And so this is 51 00:02:49,020 --> 00:02:53,340 the this is your collection of stories. And that we're going to 52 00:02:53,370 --> 00:02:57,180 delve into and just non stop, I guess we'll take one break in 53 00:02:57,180 --> 00:02:59,100 the middle. And then we were good to go. 54 00:02:59,130 --> 00:03:02,760 All right, here we go my legacy in the first half the first 55 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,070 hour. Bear with me on this because this is this is should 56 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:11,730 have been thinking about a lot over the past couple days. So I 57 00:03:11,730 --> 00:03:14,880 truly believe that in the not too distant future, maybe five 58 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,180 years, let's just make it easy on ourselves. In in five years, 59 00:03:18,180 --> 00:03:22,470 there will be enough ubiquitous bandwidth around and, and 60 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:25,470 streaming capabilities that essentially will just have 61 00:03:25,470 --> 00:03:29,820 digital radios. I mean, it's it's what d a b already is. But 62 00:03:29,820 --> 00:03:33,120 it'll be two way. And so you'll be able to stream certainly 63 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,120 you'll be you can do that today over you know over your your 64 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,560 mobile phone. The price may vary depending on your plan and where 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,400 you live and all that shit. But bar the subways. You know, you 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,910 can probably I've done I chats with Pete with with Kj with 67 00:03:47,910 --> 00:03:50,430 Chris Jacob on while he was on the train, you know, coming down 68 00:03:50,430 --> 00:03:54,540 from from upstate New York, you know, so we can we can get a 69 00:03:54,540 --> 00:03:59,520 stream out there. What if we had a stream that is essentially 24 70 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,320 hours a day, and we just keep adding to it? Right? So if you 71 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,020 drop in, you'll hear the conversation that eventually 72 00:04:07,050 --> 00:04:09,240 you'll get up to a point that you've already heard and then 73 00:04:09,270 --> 00:04:11,400 you're up to date. And when you check in again. 74 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,460 I think this is a good idea, by the way said that there's 75 00:04:14,490 --> 00:04:17,250 there's a complication here, which is for example, we'll go 76 00:04:17,250 --> 00:04:21,990 back to the by and large rant. Yeah, we have to make this work, 77 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:25,470 right. We'd have to actually document what we're talking 78 00:04:25,470 --> 00:04:27,270 about in some logical way. 79 00:04:28,410 --> 00:04:29,760 indexed sounds like 80 00:04:29,970 --> 00:04:33,090 you have it. There you go. Sounds like work. 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,930 Oh, clearly. That's a non starter. So we have to think 82 00:04:36,930 --> 00:04:41,340 this through a little bit more about the audience. I mean, can 83 00:04:41,340 --> 00:04:44,460 we get your guy's Bubba, like that involve going 84 00:04:44,460 --> 00:04:47,160 on now. But I don't know about Bubba, but he's just seems to be 85 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,280 like at his wit's end already. But I'm thinking this, 86 00:04:50,850 --> 00:04:52,920 by the way, I'm not I'm not trying to poach your guys. 87 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,180 Gianna. I'm just saying, 88 00:04:54,810 --> 00:04:57,840 I'll probably do it. But actually, there's another guy 89 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:00,510 that probably would do it for sure. But I don't want them 90 00:05:00,510 --> 00:05:03,000 doing it? I think because what you brought up was the fact that 91 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,610 we like to package stuff because we're getting old and the kids 92 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,430 they like to do all this stuff themselves is to get a team of 93 00:05:08,430 --> 00:05:12,540 volunteer kids. Yeah. You know, by our standards, kids, anyone. 94 00:05:13,590 --> 00:05:15,570 Have them have them mashup shows. 95 00:05:16,619 --> 00:05:21,179 Exactly. I think it'd be more than a few volunteers for that. 96 00:05:24,060 --> 00:05:27,570 That reminds me, when I, when I entered the Dutch schooling 97 00:05:27,570 --> 00:05:29,520 system, I was going to the International School of 98 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,770 Amsterdam for three years after we move that move that when I 99 00:05:31,770 --> 00:05:35,700 was seven, and just to give you the full context of the story, 100 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:38,190 we had a week off from the iisa International School of 101 00:05:38,190 --> 00:05:42,930 Amsterdam. And my parents sat me my sister's down Sunday evening, 102 00:05:42,930 --> 00:05:44,970 guess what you guys are going to do tomorrow? We're like, well, 103 00:05:44,970 --> 00:05:48,090 what are we going to do? You're going to Dutch school. Like 104 00:05:48,090 --> 00:05:51,660 what? And I actually really, really spoke just a few words of 105 00:05:51,660 --> 00:05:57,120 Dutch. So enter Dutch school, fifth grade, and within I think, 106 00:05:57,150 --> 00:06:01,800 like two or three months into this into the, into the school 107 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,690 year, the teacher, he says, oh, here's a question that our 108 00:06:06,690 --> 00:06:09,120 Americans did not this is a time when Americans were not very 109 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,300 loved in in Europe, Texas Instruments was coming over and 110 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:14,430 I walk on the street, they know who I was, and the kids were 111 00:06:14,430 --> 00:06:17,880 like, you crazy Mexican, she'd go fuck yourself. I mean, that's 112 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,330 what I would get as a fifth grader. And then the teacher 113 00:06:21,330 --> 00:06:24,510 says, Alright, here's one. How many. How many states does the 114 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:26,820 United States of America have in my hand goes up? Of course. It's 115 00:06:26,850 --> 00:06:31,950 50 states and now. It's 52. You forgot Alaska and Hawaii? I 116 00:06:31,950 --> 00:06:38,490 said, No, he was 48. And then we watch No, no. Can you don't even 117 00:06:38,490 --> 00:06:44,700 know this? And he said he just was braiding me. And I was, you 118 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:48,540 know, I was already messed up. And then I remember calling the 119 00:06:48,540 --> 00:06:50,820 American Embassy and recording it on, you know, one of those 120 00:06:50,820 --> 00:06:54,690 little cassette recorders taking it into school. And even that 121 00:06:54,690 --> 00:06:59,700 was a well, she was referencing an old an old Encyclopedia 122 00:06:59,700 --> 00:07:03,570 Britannica. I could not get them to just admit that he was wrong. 123 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,130 Anyway, your next story. 124 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:14,790 Okay. Thanks. Now, this is like a music business story. Do you 125 00:07:14,790 --> 00:07:16,260 know who Seymour Stein is? 126 00:07:17,370 --> 00:07:18,090 The name rings 127 00:07:18,090 --> 00:07:23,010 a bell but no. Okay. Seymour Stein is the guy who first he 128 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,750 legend in the music business started Sire Records and Sire 129 00:07:27,750 --> 00:07:31,800 Records, you know, as many famous artists. But Seymour 130 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,240 Stein is really known for Madonna. He really took Madonna 131 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,050 into mainstream to the first big album whether and he was her. 132 00:07:40,860 --> 00:07:44,760 Sire was her record label in the in the very beginning of our 133 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,780 career. And Seymour Stein is really I've hung out, hung out 134 00:07:48,780 --> 00:07:52,050 with him, you know, back in the, I don't know, like mid 80s in 135 00:07:52,050 --> 00:07:57,240 London. And just one of these really weird guys. Typical music 136 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,560 industry guys like he had a fish tank in his office with 100 137 00:08:01,590 --> 00:08:06,900 pound a 50 was no 50 pound notes at the bottom of this aquarium 138 00:08:06,900 --> 00:08:09,870 and they were Parana. Swimming in the aquarium is like you're 139 00:08:09,870 --> 00:08:12,720 welcome to go you know grab the 50 pound note if you don't mind 140 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,210 your hand getting eaten by a Parana This is really one of 141 00:08:15,210 --> 00:08:21,900 these guys, right? Hilarious. And, and his ex wife, Linda 142 00:08:21,900 --> 00:08:27,840 Stein was also a legend in the music business. She was a 143 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:34,950 manager, famously of the Ramones and she was the most abrasive 144 00:08:34,950 --> 00:08:38,790 woman you can imagine if she would, she just you know would 145 00:08:38,790 --> 00:08:42,660 she would yell she would scream at people. She told Joey Ramone 146 00:08:42,660 --> 00:08:48,090 Shut the fuck up. You know? When they were touring in England, he 147 00:08:48,090 --> 00:08:50,730 was complaining about everything. He didn't like the 148 00:08:50,910 --> 00:08:54,420 food and and she just said then get the fuck back to America, 149 00:08:54,420 --> 00:08:58,860 you fucking these legendary. And it's funny because as far as I 150 00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:03,570 know, Seymour Stein was gay If not, at least by but you know, 151 00:09:03,570 --> 00:09:07,110 it was really weird. These two and of course, they did break up 152 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:14,370 eventually. So she was ex for a reason. So legendary woman 153 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,710 legend fact. As she had cancer and she had been operated on 154 00:09:19,710 --> 00:09:22,950 cancer and she's This is a no just one of those famous stories 155 00:09:22,950 --> 00:09:26,730 about her. So take it with a grain of salt. Four hours after 156 00:09:26,730 --> 00:09:29,400 the operation, she was already on the phone yelling at someone 157 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:36,060 who fucked something up. Yeah, just just crazy. They found her 158 00:09:36,060 --> 00:09:39,390 bludgeoned to death in her apartment yesterday in New York 159 00:09:39,390 --> 00:09:41,610 on Fifth Avenue. Oh, really? 160 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,520 Yeah. As well as in in the news out here. 161 00:09:45,270 --> 00:09:50,460 Well, well, there you go. But it's just it's one of those you 162 00:09:50,460 --> 00:09:53,910 watch. The stories will come out I'm sure because, you know, lots 163 00:09:53,910 --> 00:09:56,550 of artists dealt with her. So I'm sure people are going to be 164 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:59,190 talking about this. You watch. It's going to be an interesting 165 00:09:59,190 --> 00:10:00,060 story. I'm I'm 166 00:10:00,060 --> 00:10:02,430 sure that it'll, yeah, it sounds like something that's gonna 167 00:10:02,430 --> 00:10:04,020 develop. That's interesting. And you know who 168 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:08,130 I mean? She is like, you know who, who really were her enemies 169 00:10:08,130 --> 00:10:10,440 who would have wanted to do this or the answer is fucking 170 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,800 everybody. Everybody could have gone off on this woman at any 171 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,620 time and bludgeoned to death. Of course, you know, she's kind of 172 00:10:16,620 --> 00:10:18,900 been out of the business for many years. So for this to 173 00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:20,280 happen now, it's just crazy. 174 00:10:24,810 --> 00:10:26,910 Late 70s, mid 80s, something like that 175 00:10:26,910 --> 00:10:30,930 because I remember doc McGee who was he's now manager for Gene 176 00:10:30,930 --> 00:10:34,140 Simmons, which is kind of sad. He's on that family jewels 177 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:37,320 reality show but he at the time was one of the biggest managers 178 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,880 in rock'n'roll. He was managing Motley Crue and Bon Jovi and 179 00:10:42,450 --> 00:10:47,400 maybe even Ozzy Osborne, and he got caught smuggling 5000 pounds 180 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:52,410 of marijuana into Florida on his Learjet, which is like, I don't 181 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:55,710 know what type Lear jet it was, but that must have been heavy. 182 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,460 And so he didn't go to jail. But instead the judge said, Well, 183 00:10:59,460 --> 00:11:02,970 I'll let you go. But as a part of your, your, your get out of 184 00:11:02,970 --> 00:11:07,410 jail free ticket, you have to do a number of anti drug anti 185 00:11:07,410 --> 00:11:08,790 alcohol concerts. 186 00:11:09,090 --> 00:11:12,000 That's how you're gonna say he has to do reality TV. 187 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,080 Well, now this this is 1988. And that's how I wound up in Russia 188 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,290 actually, because they had the Moscow music peace Festival, 189 00:11:20,220 --> 00:11:23,430 which he organized and this is before the wall came down. And 190 00:11:23,700 --> 00:11:26,790 so we went on a plane from Newark, New Jersey with those 191 00:11:26,910 --> 00:11:30,660 like Bon Jovi, Motley Crue Ozzy Osborne, we stopped in Germany 192 00:11:30,660 --> 00:11:34,170 to pick up the scorpions. And then we did this shows like 10 193 00:11:34,170 --> 00:11:38,070 days at Lenin Stadium in Moscow. But the funniest thing was this 194 00:11:38,070 --> 00:11:42,900 plane which was a chartered plane, like a like it was like a 195 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:46,260 DC something like a cigar to really long and very 196 00:11:46,260 --> 00:11:49,950 uncomfortable, particularly for that flight. Everyone was 197 00:11:49,950 --> 00:11:53,130 hammered. She's like I said, this was the anti drug, anti 198 00:11:53,130 --> 00:11:56,760 alcohol, Ozzy Osborne, I will not I will never rid myself of 199 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,450 him standing in the aisle because the laboratory was 200 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:06,270 occupied. And he's going Sharon, Sharon is someone new. And 201 00:12:06,270 --> 00:12:09,600 Sharon, by the way was this fat little pudgy English chick with 202 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,140 bad complexion. And, and Ozzy couldn't get in the bathroom and 203 00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:15,840 he peed himself right there right in the aisle. You know, 204 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,230 like a six year old a huge stain in the front of his pants. It 205 00:12:19,230 --> 00:12:22,020 was just unbelievable. And that was the get out of drug free. 206 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:25,560 ticket that Doc mageba. Again, everyone's hammered the whole 207 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:29,130 way through. And then Bon Jovi's doctor on the way back was 208 00:12:29,130 --> 00:12:33,210 handing out housie and everybody here, it'll help you sleep like 209 00:12:33,210 --> 00:12:36,870 oh, help me sleep. I was messed up for two weeks. I was 210 00:12:36,870 --> 00:12:43,860 suicidal. Almost. Two anyway, the point is, end users of drugs 211 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,470 are stupid, because the real game is up at the top there. 212 00:12:49,530 --> 00:12:54,840 I will say it is so impressive when you see how the big 213 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:01,320 broadcast personalities I when msnbc launched and they were 214 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,830 over in New Jersey. This was with my previous company, 215 00:13:05,220 --> 00:13:08,940 actually was before think it was on ramp. And Microsoft who of 216 00:13:08,940 --> 00:13:15,900 course, were one of the partners with NBC. They they needed a 217 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:22,110 chat to to go along with some of their programming and I can't 218 00:13:22,110 --> 00:13:24,750 remember exactly how but actually it was Denise What was 219 00:13:24,750 --> 00:13:28,920 her name? Who was a Microsoft woman? I'm sure you know her 220 00:13:29,370 --> 00:13:32,490 Caruso, I want to say does that make sense? Denise Caruso, 221 00:13:32,670 --> 00:13:34,380 she was a journalist. Now. 222 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:37,620 I'm not sure nice. It was Denise something or other and she was 223 00:13:37,620 --> 00:13:41,460 in charge of at the time it was Microsoft comic chat. Remember 224 00:13:41,460 --> 00:13:44,220 that? We have these little avatars, right? 225 00:13:44,220 --> 00:13:46,740 It's another thing that failed. Of course, they never stick to 226 00:13:46,740 --> 00:13:48,270 these things as a problem. They couldn't 227 00:13:48,270 --> 00:13:51,750 scale. This was the problem. So they couldn't scale it. And the 228 00:13:51,780 --> 00:13:54,510 the team within Microsoft was really worried and they but they 229 00:13:54,510 --> 00:13:55,440 wanted some form of 230 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:55,950 chat. 231 00:13:56,130 --> 00:13:59,820 And we had a bunch of these hacker boys like with names like 232 00:13:59,850 --> 00:14:05,490 rat boy. And I forgot. Alan Louie was one not that that's a 233 00:14:05,490 --> 00:14:07,620 cool name. But I just remembered these guys. And they had 234 00:14:07,620 --> 00:14:12,480 basically hacked together a very, very, very basic, very 235 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:17,730 frickin simple CGI script into an IRC, you know, proven 236 00:14:17,730 --> 00:14:22,320 technology, right? Go figure. And so we had this really robust 237 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,950 chat based on IRC, which I did this date, obviously still can't 238 00:14:25,950 --> 00:14:31,050 figure out. And so they hired us to implement this. And because 239 00:14:31,050 --> 00:14:33,960 of that, we were we were invited to the opening. And you'll 240 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,440 recall perhaps that the big interview they had an opening 241 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:43,020 day was Tom Brokaw. Tom Bradshaw tomorrow, giants ruling 242 00:14:43,020 --> 00:14:48,060 President Bill Clinton, and I sat in the control room and I 243 00:14:48,060 --> 00:14:53,130 was blown away by the professionalism of this guy. So 244 00:14:53,130 --> 00:14:56,640 he's got his earpiece in and he's talking he's having a 245 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,690 conversation and I believe he is listening to what the Then, you 246 00:15:00,690 --> 00:15:03,960 know, President was saying, and so they're having a dialogue, 247 00:15:04,170 --> 00:15:08,730 and the producer is continuously talking into his ear and giving 248 00:15:08,730 --> 00:15:11,910 them cues. And then it's like, okay, Tom, we have 30 seconds to 249 00:15:11,910 --> 00:15:16,590 commercial, while Brokaw is talking. And, and he's counting 250 00:15:16,590 --> 00:15:20,430 down the seconds and broke off, fires off another question, 251 00:15:20,430 --> 00:15:23,310 which he knows is only going to get a quick yes or no answer. 252 00:15:23,310 --> 00:15:25,950 And he pulls back away from the president and hits the 253 00:15:25,950 --> 00:15:30,180 commercial break right on the nose. And I still get goosebumps 254 00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:34,230 when I think about that that actual sequence, it is unfreakin 255 00:15:34,230 --> 00:15:40,320 real, how good these guys are. Well, so there's there's a 256 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,320 couple things I'll say here. Because I have been kind of 257 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,010 following the Osmonds over the past couple of weeks, mainly 258 00:15:47,010 --> 00:15:51,330 because, you know, Marie was in Dancing with the Stars. And then 259 00:15:51,390 --> 00:15:54,510 and I like that show that she passed out, right. So that that 260 00:15:54,510 --> 00:15:58,500 kind of got her into the news. I know Donnie, in fact, I've raced 261 00:15:58,530 --> 00:16:03,360 against him in a celebrity race in Denver. During the I was an 262 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,800 indie, an indie event, IndyCar when I was working for MTV, and 263 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,680 you know, and the guy's fucking serious. Yeah, he won the race, 264 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,440 by the way, he's, you know, I was impressed. He was, you know, 265 00:16:13,470 --> 00:16:16,110 we're all out partying, and he was walking the track at five in 266 00:16:16,110 --> 00:16:18,600 the morning, you know, finding the apex and all the fucking 267 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,750 person wanting to win, he really wanted to win. But I've been 268 00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:24,300 following this and the only thing I can say is, you know, 269 00:16:24,300 --> 00:16:28,980 for what they had 100 Osmonds on Oprah the other day 100 so you 270 00:16:28,980 --> 00:16:32,310 know, even though they're Marie's dad had just passed away 271 00:16:32,310 --> 00:16:35,550 a few days earlier, they still decided to come to Oprah show 272 00:16:35,550 --> 00:16:38,610 which is fine, you know, but you know, what was the point? You 273 00:16:38,610 --> 00:16:41,580 know, she was there plugging her dolls, which she sells on I 274 00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:44,940 think QVC or the home shopping network which is I think really 275 00:16:44,940 --> 00:16:47,700 her main source of income and I'm sure it does huge business 276 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,780 but when you you know you step back into the limelight you 277 00:16:51,780 --> 00:16:54,660 know, it's like a fucking boomerang. I've seen this happen 278 00:16:54,660 --> 00:16:57,300 it's happened to me many times you know, it comes back at you 279 00:16:57,300 --> 00:17:01,500 and positive energy comes back fucking black and vice versa. 280 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,830 It's just it's just it's it's part of the beast, you know, 281 00:17:04,830 --> 00:17:09,090 only it whips a lot faster than it used to. And the turnaround 282 00:17:09,090 --> 00:17:13,170 time is quicker, and the ups and downs are severe. And this is 283 00:17:13,170 --> 00:17:14,490 just what happens I think. 284 00:17:17,819 --> 00:17:18,749 Here's a trend. 285 00:17:20,910 --> 00:17:27,000 Boys in Britain with increasing rate do not want to French kiss. 286 00:17:29,309 --> 00:17:29,999 You're kidding. 287 00:17:30,059 --> 00:17:34,049 Yeah. And this is I had a whole conversation with my daughter 288 00:17:34,049 --> 00:17:36,389 and a couple of her friends that were here in the garden today. 289 00:17:36,929 --> 00:17:37,469 And it's 290 00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:40,440 Is it because the Brits hate the French that much? 291 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,420 That was my question too. 292 00:17:42,450 --> 00:17:46,410 But now like, we ate his fucking French 293 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,780 no more detailing. 294 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,810 It's called a freedom from freedom kiss now instead of 295 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,340 French kissing now, they're just not into it. It's in Believe me. 296 00:17:56,340 --> 00:17:58,710 There are a whole bunch of other stuff because I you know, I did 297 00:17:58,710 --> 00:18:01,530 get all the details. But now that they don't like French 298 00:18:01,530 --> 00:18:05,070 kissing, it's going out of Vogue. Pun intended. 299 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,649 That's interesting. Yeah. 300 00:18:08,730 --> 00:18:10,080 And so I've told my 301 00:18:10,079 --> 00:18:12,809 daughters to Sociology I think behind that. I really 302 00:18:12,809 --> 00:18:14,999 don't know. You know, the first thing I said is baby, maybe you 303 00:18:14,999 --> 00:18:17,879 need a tic tac, you know, she's like, No, No, No dad, and then, 304 00:18:18,209 --> 00:18:20,909 you know, her friend Liz and a couple of these girls say yeah, 305 00:18:20,939 --> 00:18:23,609 more and more boys just they don't like it. They just said 306 00:18:23,609 --> 00:18:24,119 the boys. 307 00:18:24,149 --> 00:18:26,609 The girls don't one way or the other. Not the boys. 308 00:18:26,610 --> 00:18:30,360 It's the boys who don't want a French kiss. That's kind of 309 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:30,990 trippy isn't it? 310 00:18:31,890 --> 00:18:34,770 That's wild. I wonder if that what that trend is developing 311 00:18:34,770 --> 00:18:35,190 here. 312 00:18:35,700 --> 00:18:39,030 I have no idea. I personally I'm a I'm a big fan. 313 00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:46,620 With French kissing boys. Yes, but the way you set it up 314 00:18:47,099 --> 00:18:54,029 was to say I was open goal. That was around the time The Truman 315 00:18:54,029 --> 00:18:59,549 Show came out. And and I was we were back in Holland. We just 316 00:18:59,549 --> 00:19:03,569 moved back. And I got a call at like 1130 at night it was john 317 00:19:03,569 --> 00:19:09,089 the Mall of Endemol. You know and the mall is no and the mall 318 00:19:09,089 --> 00:19:14,939 the big production company. Most Famous for big brother. Okay, 319 00:19:14,939 --> 00:19:18,359 yeah. Okay, worldwide success sold to Telefonica for several 320 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,129 billion. He called me Ron Lim 30 says Adam, Adam, Adam, come to 321 00:19:23,129 --> 00:19:26,429 my office. I want to show you something. I'm like, Hi, that's 322 00:19:26,429 --> 00:19:29,759 kind of weird. But he was already a pretty big television 323 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:32,819 producer like okay, so I go in he says, I got a mood tape for 324 00:19:32,819 --> 00:19:36,719 you. Okay, I know what a mood tape is. He says it's it's kind 325 00:19:36,719 --> 00:19:40,799 of biosphere meets Truman Show. And he showed me this tape and 326 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:44,909 it was literally they had it. It wasn't mood tapes, it was all 327 00:19:44,909 --> 00:19:47,759 stuff cut together and voiceover to make it kind of looked like 328 00:19:47,759 --> 00:19:52,229 it was real. Essentially, it was called golden cage. And the idea 329 00:19:52,229 --> 00:19:57,779 was that, you know, we'd lock in 10 people, five men, five women 330 00:19:57,779 --> 00:20:01,439 lock them up for a full year. The new And then whoever would 331 00:20:01,439 --> 00:20:05,279 come out as the final person would be the sorry about that 332 00:20:06,930 --> 00:20:07,920 would be the winner of 333 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:14,459 like a million euros or whatever. And, and that about 334 00:20:14,459 --> 00:20:16,349 three months later became big brother. 335 00:20:17,369 --> 00:20:18,419 And oh, okay. 336 00:20:18,479 --> 00:20:21,569 Yeah. And I was right there at the very, very start. And it was 337 00:20:21,569 --> 00:20:26,579 completely influenced and and I betcha that pieces of real life 338 00:20:26,579 --> 00:20:28,739 were in that mood tape, I'm going to see if I can find it 339 00:20:28,739 --> 00:20:32,189 because I have it somewhere. The original Big Brother mood table 340 00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:36,449 and later actually, animal went on to create a golden cage, 341 00:20:36,449 --> 00:20:39,449 which is like a really harsh version of Big Brother with no 342 00:20:39,449 --> 00:20:43,049 better loving sex and getting drunk and shit on camera meant 343 00:20:43,049 --> 00:20:45,119 that he tried to sell that in the states that wouldn't even 344 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:45,599 take it. 345 00:20:48,210 --> 00:20:49,110 Our standards? 346 00:20:49,650 --> 00:20:51,270 Yeah, boy, we sure do. 347 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:53,519 Please. 348 00:20:56,460 --> 00:21:00,810 Some funny happened the other day. And I have to say that I 349 00:21:00,810 --> 00:21:04,440 enjoy the show even more than I used to. Because these are the 350 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,420 two moments in my life at this moment to two times in my life, 351 00:21:09,780 --> 00:21:13,890 that I hear everything perfectly and in a beautifully processed, 352 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,990 nice, rich sound. 353 00:21:16,410 --> 00:21:20,790 Because yes, I thought you can say it's because you can go back 354 00:21:20,790 --> 00:21:22,110 into the closet, boys 355 00:21:22,109 --> 00:21:24,089 Hey, no. 356 00:21:25,470 --> 00:21:28,620 So the hearing aids, I've gotten completely figured out I've got 357 00:21:28,620 --> 00:21:33,960 them customized configured. And it's fantastic. But, but if you 358 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,020 want to be able to hear things you have to and it's very 359 00:21:37,020 --> 00:21:40,470 difficult from it you have to learn to live with depending on 360 00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:44,550 the situation you're in, if you're in a horribly filtered 361 00:21:44,550 --> 00:21:48,990 sound, an example would be in, in the shopping mall. There's a 362 00:21:48,990 --> 00:21:51,960 good example, we talked about the mall. If you want to be able 363 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,160 to hear what people are saying then you're going to basically 364 00:21:56,220 --> 00:22:00,450 only crank up the mids and everything else has to go down 365 00:22:00,450 --> 00:22:03,060 turn on the directional mics, which is one setting By the way, 366 00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:05,910 you have to do that all on the fly. And they can hear everybody 367 00:22:05,970 --> 00:22:06,330 when 368 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,100 they like this. 369 00:22:09,150 --> 00:22:12,090 And otherwise, it's just too much noise that comes in anyway. 370 00:22:12,090 --> 00:22:14,730 So I'm wearing these things I'm doing Wait a minute. Let's stop. 371 00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:22,110 Right. Well, I mean, you're just you talking in vagaries? You are 372 00:22:22,110 --> 00:22:24,810 in the mall? You've got the hearing aid right now it's in 373 00:22:24,810 --> 00:22:25,440 your ear? No. 374 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:29,760 Oh, in the mall? Yes. Yeah. In the mall. It's not, not what I'm 375 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,940 doing. Now. No, no, no, no, what I'm doing the show the headphone 376 00:22:32,970 --> 00:22:37,650 is on 11 which is why I hear everything perfectly. And it 377 00:22:37,650 --> 00:22:39,900 sounds really good. And because there's a noise gate, there's 378 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:43,920 nothing else is being amplified when I'm not talking. So this is 379 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,740 this is the way I wish the world sounded like this to me all the 380 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:52,020 time. And I can go to I can turn on music and I can put it on the 381 00:22:52,020 --> 00:22:55,680 music setting. No sound fantastic ever stopping? 382 00:22:56,460 --> 00:22:59,430 What do you mean, you poke yourself in the eye? How do you 383 00:22:59,430 --> 00:23:01,140 make the settings change? 384 00:23:01,170 --> 00:23:03,780 I thought I told you this is so there's six settings pre 385 00:23:03,780 --> 00:23:07,230 programmed. And you have a button on each unit. So I'm 386 00:23:07,230 --> 00:23:08,730 actually it's an odd thing 387 00:23:08,730 --> 00:23:11,580 is a big giant button. I find the button it has to be 388 00:23:11,610 --> 00:23:13,320 miniscule. No, no, no. 389 00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:17,550 So the way the modern hearing aids is not just something stuck 390 00:23:17,550 --> 00:23:21,900 in your ear canal, you have the unit is hanging behind your ear, 391 00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:26,340 then there's a copper wire pair that goes into really they call 392 00:23:26,340 --> 00:23:29,850 it a receiver but it's really a tiny speaker. And that is in 393 00:23:29,850 --> 00:23:33,600 your ear canal. So so the unit contains the battery, the 394 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,670 processing, and you can one button on each one. So if the 395 00:23:38,670 --> 00:23:42,060 right ear volume goes up, left, your volume goes down. And 396 00:23:42,060 --> 00:23:45,210 either button if you long press it'll change to a different 397 00:23:45,210 --> 00:23:49,650 program and the little lady's voice or go music or Chicago 398 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:58,230 party or urban or universal. You with me? 399 00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:01,470 Yeah, and I'm trying to visualize Okay, so you get a 400 00:24:01,470 --> 00:24:03,810 little thing in the back of your ear that you can push a button. 401 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,170 Yeah. And you push it into your wait for the lady is because it 402 00:24:07,170 --> 00:24:09,810 will have voices come through which is kind of cool. And tells 403 00:24:09,810 --> 00:24:12,210 you what setting is all this lid off if there's 404 00:24:12,210 --> 00:24:15,810 other cool things. For instance, if this doesn't happen with me, 405 00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:21,150 but if you thought it wouldn't, if you lose one, then the one 406 00:24:21,150 --> 00:24:23,550 that's still in your ear will go last mate 407 00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:29,309 which is an odd message to receive you lose one. Well funny 408 00:24:29,309 --> 00:24:30,179 you ask. 409 00:24:31,529 --> 00:24:35,369 So we're up here on the 29th floor and I'm taking some 410 00:24:35,369 --> 00:24:40,079 garbage some cardboard box to throw down the chute. 411 00:24:40,589 --> 00:24:44,849 You're still using your little thing to stand on. A little 412 00:24:44,849 --> 00:24:48,899 thing I stand on used to stand a little thing for a little 413 00:24:49,019 --> 00:24:49,949 scooter thing. 414 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,320 No I'm just walking down the hallways that 415 00:24:52,650 --> 00:24:54,480 happened to that thing I gave it away. 416 00:24:54,690 --> 00:24:58,380 It is a deathtrap they want to die. So I'm walking down the 417 00:24:58,380 --> 00:25:02,070 hallway I go to the garbage room. We Have two garbage shoes 418 00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:04,980 one for garbage one for recycling. And so I'm I got this 419 00:25:04,980 --> 00:25:09,030 box and it won't fit. And so I'm crushing the box it clips my ear 420 00:25:09,030 --> 00:25:13,590 the hearing aid flips off. hits the box I try to grab it no it 421 00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:17,010 goes down 29 floors I couldn't hear it more than five of course 422 00:25:17,010 --> 00:25:20,760 and ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping like okay 423 00:25:21,630 --> 00:25:24,450 wow that's what I call a freak accident Yeah, 424 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,220 so I immediately jump in the elevator go down like that you 425 00:25:29,219 --> 00:25:30,269 jumped into shoot 426 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,350 I shot what I like I'm not shooting throw anything after it 427 00:25:34,770 --> 00:25:36,990 because you know, even though I might mark where it is, you 428 00:25:36,990 --> 00:25:39,300 know, I don't know what could happen it could have drawn Oh, 429 00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:42,030 got caught somewhere it's it has a wire on it. You know, there's 430 00:25:42,030 --> 00:25:45,990 a he can get caught in anything. So go downstairs, run to the 431 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,810 underneath the building. I can't find anything. One of the 432 00:25:48,810 --> 00:25:51,720 maintenance guys appears and I tell him the stories like are 433 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,440 you sure you put in the right hand one said Yeah. And the 434 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,170 recycling you really sure so yeah, okay, good. And we go into 435 00:25:58,170 --> 00:26:01,290 where the, these big containers are where all the trash dumps in 436 00:26:01,290 --> 00:26:04,170 from the entire building. And I see what he was saying about the 437 00:26:04,170 --> 00:26:08,550 regular garbage because it goes through a mulcher. And any, if 438 00:26:08,550 --> 00:26:11,280 you're throwing something down that that tube, it's gonna get 439 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,870 mulched. But and there it is, there's the the recycle 440 00:26:15,870 --> 00:26:18,960 container. And you know, it's up to my chest I'm looking in. It's 441 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,380 like, I can't see anything, I can't get in focus anything, the 442 00:26:22,380 --> 00:26:26,610 maintenance guy hops in 30 seconds, picks it up. And it's 443 00:26:26,610 --> 00:26:29,580 in the wire, the wire had dislodged from the little 444 00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:33,030 speaker. So I'm like, Well, at least I have that part of the 445 00:26:33,030 --> 00:26:35,400 unit. And they said, Oh, and there's this, he picked it right 446 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:41,160 out of the recycling. Wow. And the What happened then? Well, 447 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:44,850 first of all, when this took place, as I said, when it was 448 00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:48,390 going think blink, blink, blink, blink down the chute, my other 449 00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:53,880 egos last mate, to understand kind of how I can be useful. And 450 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,520 then when I had it in my hand and he gave it back to me and 451 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,720 went mate found. 452 00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:03,660 Yeah, I can't imagine if you're a complete idiot, you don't know 453 00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:05,910 you lost a mate that would come in very handy. 454 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,760 Well, I don't know what it's like to be completely deaf, or 455 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,400 very, very deaf and that these things are only marginally 456 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,260 helping somebody so maybe, I don't know. You know, when you 457 00:27:16,260 --> 00:27:18,810 run out of gas in your car, and I've had this happen, I ran out 458 00:27:18,810 --> 00:27:22,890 of gas once in the Lincoln Tunnel. And that by the way, on 459 00:27:22,890 --> 00:27:24,390 a Friday afternoon, 460 00:27:24,420 --> 00:27:27,990 never tell you the story. You must have been the bad vibes a 461 00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:30,450 digital exists. hanging over your head, 462 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,290 I tell you the whole story that it's hilarious. So these were 463 00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:42,000 the days I had a 1972 and a white night 1982 Rolls Royce 464 00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:47,190 silver shadow to which I bought secondhand, beautiful British 465 00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:49,800 racing green, you know, great car, I drove it in New York 466 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,400 every single day I drove 80,000 miles I put on that car. And of 467 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,250 course, it's ridiculous. You know, I think I paid 70 grand 468 00:27:56,250 --> 00:28:02,700 for it at the time when I had money. Boy, good old days. And 469 00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:06,600 so I'm coming out in New York on a Friday afternoon. You have to 470 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,770 understand that in New York. And this is MTV days. Friday 471 00:28:10,770 --> 00:28:14,160 afternoons, the Lincoln Tunnel is jammed. Because of course, 472 00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:17,610 the the Jewish population of New York all tries to get out around 473 00:28:17,610 --> 00:28:21,210 three o'clock in the afternoon to get home in time for for the 474 00:28:21,210 --> 00:28:21,690 gods of the 475 00:28:21,690 --> 00:28:23,520 Hamptons and out of town. Well, 476 00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:25,079 the Hamptons is not through the Lincoln Tunnel. 477 00:28:25,769 --> 00:28:26,819 Right this the other way, 478 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,090 right. But, but basically all tunnels and bridges are jammed. 479 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,560 And so I'm like, 480 00:28:31,619 --> 00:28:34,199 Is it going to Yeah, they're going to Jersey. Joyce home? 481 00:28:34,199 --> 00:28:34,439 Yeah, 482 00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:38,070 the Jersey Shore. So and I know there's a gas station on the 483 00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:40,380 other side on the jersey side, right. I can make this I can 484 00:28:40,380 --> 00:28:44,820 make this Oh, and it conks out in the Lincoln Tunnel. On a 485 00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:49,020 Friday afternoon. I'm wearing my MTV guy, leather jacket, my big 486 00:28:49,020 --> 00:28:50,250 Adam Curry hair. 487 00:28:50,670 --> 00:28:54,210 Let me tell you the douchebag of the day they rent a story about 488 00:28:54,210 --> 00:28:58,110 this. They threw stuff at me people were throwing their paper 489 00:28:58,110 --> 00:29:03,030 cups, like you a whole MTV douche bag. 490 00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:09,419 And then because they literally have to close off one. One lane 491 00:29:09,479 --> 00:29:13,079 and then the truck has to come through to push the car works. 492 00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:13,439 Yeah, 493 00:29:13,499 --> 00:29:15,899 actually, they come out front for hours and turn around. No. 494 00:29:16,679 --> 00:29:17,459 They they push 495 00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:19,830 me towards the jersey sides. They push me all the way out. 496 00:29:20,130 --> 00:29:25,800 But I never again. And that's also when I decided fancy 497 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,850 looking cars is not good. Because you can't when it draws 498 00:29:29,850 --> 00:29:31,890 attention to you never got me late either. I'll 499 00:29:31,890 --> 00:29:32,460 tell you that. 500 00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:39,990 I'm just remembering something. So Kleiner Perkins always had 501 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,120 smokin hot receptionists 502 00:29:42,569 --> 00:29:44,699 they had some beautiful women in the front 503 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:51,030 receptionist and I forget the was a young woman forget her 504 00:29:51,030 --> 00:29:54,270 name. Did you know we'd also be waiting we have to go there 505 00:29:54,270 --> 00:29:55,620 every week and have you 506 00:29:55,620 --> 00:29:56,370 always have to wait. 507 00:29:56,460 --> 00:30:00,000 You have to meetings like just oh the board means I'll show up. 508 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,760 We're doing a show the damn charts against him, we're 509 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,360 spending your money well, and I would always hang out talking to 510 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,600 her. And she was kind of cool. She was snowboarder, whatever, 511 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,310 but it's just, he was good looking fun, interesting, good 512 00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:18,510 jokes, and always be hanging out there anyway. And then as 513 00:30:19,230 --> 00:30:22,890 Kleiner Perkins had these Christmas parties and stuff, and 514 00:30:22,890 --> 00:30:26,670 I got a call from Ray lane One morning, say I say, Ray, what's 515 00:30:26,670 --> 00:30:31,470 gone? Well, there's a complaint for sexual harassment, really. 516 00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:35,520 And it was this receptionist, and she had this whole list of 517 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,020 people who had propositioned her and it was clear that what 518 00:30:40,020 --> 00:30:42,390 became apparent is that she had a history of doing this 519 00:30:42,390 --> 00:30:45,840 accompanies and she pretty much gone to Kleiner Perkins, and it 520 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,580 saw people out and at one point, she had asked me, Hey, you want 521 00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:54,240 to go get high? I'm like, Nah, man, I got a I got a I got a 522 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,350 meeting here and No. And but that came back in some 523 00:30:58,350 --> 00:31:02,100 complaints that I wanted to smoke illegal drugs with her. 524 00:31:03,810 --> 00:31:06,780 And this was a ray lane, senior partner was reading this to me 525 00:31:06,780 --> 00:31:09,150 over the phone say, This is insane, right? What's going on 526 00:31:09,150 --> 00:31:13,080 with this? So they were targeted. And, and with anybody 527 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:18,510 that had like, I guess they had like, as a detective, because I 528 00:31:18,510 --> 00:31:20,880 saw the old you know, but this guy showed up before this 529 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,730 complaint came in this guy showed up and he was like, a co 530 00:31:23,730 --> 00:31:27,510 receptionist. It was very strange. So they brought him in 531 00:31:27,510 --> 00:31:29,760 as the as people were starting to suspect something. And 532 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,380 he was no one's gonna notice that. 533 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,730 We're there to trap her. And she apparently had done this to 534 00:31:35,730 --> 00:31:36,630 other companies. 535 00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:40,890 Yeah, so business should really figure out what companies have, 536 00:31:40,890 --> 00:31:43,230 you know, as especially a good looking woman, you can get jobs 537 00:31:43,230 --> 00:31:45,060 pretty easily. And that those position 538 00:31:45,059 --> 00:31:48,119 I was offended, you know, I would never ask someone to go 539 00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:49,739 smoking, knowing me 540 00:31:49,769 --> 00:31:53,249 know that the girls asked you like what happened in that case? 541 00:31:54,990 --> 00:31:58,800 I never heard anything else after that. But it's a weird 542 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,450 place. It's a weird place. 543 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,480 The reason why I'm sensitive about this is because I once 544 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,450 said something in the Netherlands for almost 30 years 545 00:32:09,450 --> 00:32:13,920 joking. And I didn't obviously, I didn't make a joke. But what I 546 00:32:13,950 --> 00:32:17,160 would, because they sat me down, you know, I had to apologize. It 547 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,960 was a big deal. Well, let's 548 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:24,240 hear this story. This by the way, this show I want to mention 549 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,580 to everybody out there who helps us show they contribute to the 550 00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:29,430 show, and they donate to the show. And they they produce the 551 00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:33,000 show and all the rest of it. On any given show. I've taught I 552 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:39,210 tell this to people, Adam, or myself would be fired two or 553 00:32:39,210 --> 00:32:44,160 three times. Oh, yeah. In the normal circumstance, but since 554 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,350 we work for ourselves, and we produce the show, we have our 555 00:32:46,350 --> 00:32:49,740 own infrastructure, there's nobody can stop us. We do a lot 556 00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:53,070 of stuff that is that would get get us fired. But now we have it 557 00:32:53,070 --> 00:32:56,370 an example that Adam is going to give us of him actually almost 558 00:32:56,370 --> 00:32:58,860 getting fired over something. Yeah. 559 00:33:00,390 --> 00:33:05,190 This must have been in 85 or 86. In the Netherlands, I was on the 560 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:09,090 official radio, in the Netherlands. And there was it 561 00:33:09,090 --> 00:33:13,830 was a there was I'm trying to think what it was in relation to 562 00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:19,050 But anyway, there was a news item. And in the news item was 563 00:33:19,050 --> 00:33:23,400 something about some guys that well, you know, you see how it 564 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,620 had to do with Israel and Palestine or something like 565 00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:27,480 that. I don't really ride have to look it up to remember the 566 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,020 specifics. Then he said no all you know, the reason why this 567 00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:33,450 gets attention is you know, look at who's running the media in 568 00:33:33,450 --> 00:33:36,180 America. And I commented and I said, Well, you know, he's got a 569 00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:38,400 point there. You know, the the names you see on the credit 570 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:44,280 roles in Hollywood often end with Steen. And man, especially 571 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,820 the Netherlands, people lost their crap over there was one 572 00:33:47,850 --> 00:33:52,530 one very famous singer. And she said, when he said that, I've 573 00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:56,160 just remembered that the Nazis, jackboots walking down the 574 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,100 hallway while I was hiding. I mean, that's the kind of stuff 575 00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:03,720 that happened to me. And I was really just, you know, been off 576 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,010 the cuff comment I learned, obviously. And then to see then 577 00:34:08,010 --> 00:34:12,510 the, it's, I think it's the was called the CEO. I forget the 578 00:34:12,510 --> 00:34:17,190 name that you know, like an ADL of the Netherlands, by Robbie 579 00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:20,130 something or other. I mean, he started making statements in the 580 00:34:20,130 --> 00:34:22,920 newspaper and they're calling from I was like, whoa, hold on. 581 00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:28,110 I'll come over, let's sit. Let's talk about I really, please. And 582 00:34:28,140 --> 00:34:33,600 the point was to jokes or offhanded remarks, propagate the 583 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,730 lies the lies that the Jews run the banks that Jews run the 584 00:34:38,730 --> 00:34:44,040 media etc. So jokes like that propagate the lies even though 585 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,430 they're a joke I just don't understand why they're why the 586 00:34:47,490 --> 00:34:53,160 past has given what are we not spoken about? 587 00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:54,809 That comic book guy? 588 00:34:56,700 --> 00:34:59,070 What we're gonna do is gonna give you the backstory on that. 589 00:34:59,370 --> 00:35:02,100 Yeah. Anything you said we're going to talk about on the show? 590 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,020 Well, I got to be careful because if I say it wrong, then 591 00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:12,570 he'll get really upset. Who's he? comic strip blogger. Okay, 592 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,480 his name is Jay something or other I don't remember his real 593 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:15,840 name. 594 00:35:17,310 --> 00:35:19,770 But he's a fan of yours are what? He latched 595 00:35:19,770 --> 00:35:24,570 on to the daily source code couple of years ago, and he 596 00:35:24,570 --> 00:35:26,670 started in the comments, and he would just write these 597 00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:30,660 outrageous things. You know, he really, as we would say, in 598 00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:34,710 Holland, his heart was on his tongue. But you know, and he's 599 00:35:34,740 --> 00:35:37,350 he's also coincidentally the guy that started this whole fuck you 600 00:35:37,350 --> 00:35:40,530 Adam Curry business, because that's literally how he talks, 601 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,560 you know, and, and, and it was just really interesting to me. 602 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,070 And I googled him. And I found out that, you know, he had 603 00:35:47,070 --> 00:35:55,260 worked at Nakia. And I guess he, he had a blog, and he was 604 00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:58,380 basically posting on the blog, you know, about shit that suck 605 00:35:58,380 --> 00:36:02,580 within the company. That's dumb, paraphrasing, I'm sure as to 606 00:36:02,610 --> 00:36:06,780 what it exactly was. And so he got fired. And some say he got 607 00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:11,700 kicked out of Finland. They get kicked out of Finland, you don't 608 00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:16,320 want to cross nucky his path man, they are Finland, and, and 609 00:36:16,410 --> 00:36:20,310 out of anger and spite. But maybe also because he felt there 610 00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:24,030 was more future in the platform. He became a huge proponent of 611 00:36:24,030 --> 00:36:29,010 Windows Mobile. And he started blogging and podcasting. He go 612 00:36:29,010 --> 00:36:31,950 around to these MVP events, which I believe he's been banned 613 00:36:31,950 --> 00:36:35,220 from now. And he was he would ask really straightforward 614 00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:37,680 questions actually, journalistically. Great 615 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,670 questions. But his approach, of course, was very brash. And you 616 00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:44,400 know, he did be the equivalent of going up to I saw a piece of 617 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,500 video done in the apple UK store with a journalist went up to 618 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:52,860 Phil Schiller and said, so, you know, is this going to be a 619 00:36:52,860 --> 00:36:55,110 problem with anti competitive laws in Europe where you 620 00:36:55,110 --> 00:36:57,840 basically have to buy something to get something else you tying 621 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,840 the phone to the, to the network, and then immediately 622 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,540 the PR people jump in and Schiller backs off? And you 623 00:37:03,540 --> 00:37:06,240 know, that it's that kind of question straight to the point, 624 00:37:06,570 --> 00:37:09,420 and good stuff. Exactly. Good stuff. And it freaks him out. 625 00:37:09,420 --> 00:37:12,270 And I think he his appearance and the way he speaks he has his 626 00:37:12,270 --> 00:37:17,190 Polish German accent and he's just the vocabulary. Yeah. So I 627 00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:21,090 got really interested in the guy. And, and that, you know, I 628 00:37:21,090 --> 00:37:23,340 think Jeff Smith made a jingle for him, you know, and then he 629 00:37:23,340 --> 00:37:25,740 started calling in and, and he knows a lot of shit, 630 00:37:25,770 --> 00:37:28,770 particularly about the European Union. And so, you know, he give 631 00:37:28,770 --> 00:37:30,540 reports on that. And what 632 00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:32,460 would like what what give us some examples. 633 00:37:33,930 --> 00:37:35,160 An example like a pro. 634 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,720 Is he an EU basher? 635 00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:39,900 No, no, no, he really believes in the EU, but he passed Yeah, 636 00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:41,130 many EU basher now he 637 00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:44,400 points out all of the all of the things that are wrong and that 638 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,980 are messed up. And you know, he's another guy that gets 639 00:37:46,980 --> 00:37:49,470 stopped, you know, going into another country, and then he'll 640 00:37:49,470 --> 00:37:52,800 record it and you'll say, Why do I have to show passport? Am I 641 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,060 not EU citizen? Which of course is a great way not to get 642 00:37:57,060 --> 00:37:58,260 through passport control. 643 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,500 Yeah, that works. But he's 644 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,710 not he's a beautiful guy. And then he one time he came, you 645 00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:07,560 know, we set up a date after years, we would meet at the UK 646 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,890 office and this video was on YouTube and I think on his site, 647 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,850 comic strip blog calm. He interviewed me about my mobile 648 00:38:14,850 --> 00:38:18,300 devices. And it was so funny because then he he gave me a 649 00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:22,410 PowerPoint pitch about what he wanted to do to work for pod 650 00:38:22,410 --> 00:38:25,770 show you under like a consultant type role. And it was so funny. 651 00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:27,960 It was the only pitch I've ever received in my life that 652 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,380 literally ended with a slide that says PS Fuck you, Adam 653 00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:39,480 Curry. Oh, man, this is so beautiful. Ah, well, I can kind 654 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:45,720 of transition from this into the two central bankers came out on 655 00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:51,390 the same day. And essentially said the same thing. The former 656 00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:54,420 senate chief of the central bank of the Netherlands, the needle 657 00:38:54,420 --> 00:38:59,430 on some bank. Now delink said, Oh, this Bitcoin. This is 658 00:38:59,430 --> 00:39:02,850 nothing more than tulipmania except at the end of the day, 659 00:39:02,850 --> 00:39:03,750 you had a tulip. 660 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,090 And I need to say something about that good line. Well, no. 661 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,910 Other people do this tulip thing. You know, that's just 662 00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:15,210 crazy. Well, it's interesting that Beanie Babies is something 663 00:39:15,210 --> 00:39:16,230 we all remember. 664 00:39:16,260 --> 00:39:19,380 Well, I but I wanted I did some research on the tulip thing and 665 00:39:19,380 --> 00:39:25,290 this it's a little different than the way we remember it. And 666 00:39:25,290 --> 00:39:30,180 there's a book which serve under Helm had some scan pages somehow 667 00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:33,510 he gave it to me. And in you know, this comparison, 668 00:39:33,660 --> 00:39:37,860 essentially, whenever someone whenever there's a bubble, they 669 00:39:37,860 --> 00:39:41,970 say, Oh, this like the Dutch tulip craze. And I think some 670 00:39:41,970 --> 00:39:46,650 history is warranted about the what that actually was. I mean, 671 00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:50,430 what do you the way you understand that john? Is Is that 672 00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:53,340 it? The Dutch tulip craze was just people went crazy about a 673 00:39:53,340 --> 00:39:55,950 non product and the bubble burst and that was it. I mean, do you 674 00:39:55,950 --> 00:39:57,270 have any men who are very 675 00:39:57,270 --> 00:40:00,900 popular and they were being bred to be certain way to certain 676 00:40:00,930 --> 00:40:03,690 tools became very valuable. And then there was a shortage in the 677 00:40:03,690 --> 00:40:06,780 market and then people began would happen when people began 678 00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:11,280 to speculate on the bulbs. And once that happened that, you 679 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,300 know, it was it was doomed, but it was, well, that was a, it was 680 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:16,260 definitely a craze. 681 00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:20,190 So that let me tell you what what actually happened. This was 682 00:40:20,190 --> 00:40:24,690 not so much about the bubble as it was about the trading that 683 00:40:24,690 --> 00:40:28,620 was going on. Now, this is the 1630s. There were hardly there 684 00:40:28,620 --> 00:40:31,920 was there was no, CNBC, there were no newspaper, they had 685 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,740 pamphlets, which are kind of like flyers, and people would 686 00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:37,770 print something up and hand it out. But what happened this was 687 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,430 the they had commodities trade in the Netherlands kind of 688 00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:46,230 invented the stock market. And this was a part of that. Because 689 00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:50,220 what happened with these, with these tulip trades, is people 690 00:40:50,220 --> 00:40:53,280 were not taking possession of the bulb or the flower, just the 691 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,940 contract. And that was something that was new. And by the way, in 692 00:40:56,940 --> 00:40:59,460 order to understand the history like this, you have to get the 693 00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:03,690 Dutch texts which I am able to read. So it's kind of unique 694 00:41:03,690 --> 00:41:06,750 that I can explain this to you because I read through the Dutch 695 00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:11,220 copy of what really went down. So this was something that was 696 00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:15,060 new, is people would buy a tulip and they would only get a piece 697 00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:17,640 of paper that was you know, the bowl this? 698 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,110 Yes, by the way, I want to interrupt. Anytime you have some 699 00:41:22,110 --> 00:41:25,800 new technology, that tape or some new mechanism, financial 700 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,200 mechanism that makes it look as though you can make a lot of 701 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,330 money. People jump on it because they see you Bitcoin is 702 00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:36,420 probably, I think is a good example not to bring this up. 703 00:41:36,450 --> 00:41:37,620 This part of it is 704 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:41,730 yes, this is exactly my point. So people were in it to make 705 00:41:41,730 --> 00:41:45,720 money on the transaction instead of making money on the commodity 706 00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:49,050 itself. This is this is where there was a big difference. Now. 707 00:41:51,180 --> 00:41:53,790 There was a lot of trouble with these flowers, they were hard to 708 00:41:53,790 --> 00:41:56,940 identify. There are a lot of mistakes being made and a lot of 709 00:41:56,940 --> 00:42:03,450 fraud. But in 1936, one of these pamphlets, again, very few 710 00:42:03,450 --> 00:42:06,360 newspapers, if any floated rumors that the state was 711 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,190 considering taxing the tools was an 1813 or 1630 1636. I'm sorry, 712 00:42:11,250 --> 00:42:12,990 what did I say? You said 713 00:42:12,990 --> 00:42:17,940 1936. But and by the way, if you notice what you said was 1936, 714 00:42:17,940 --> 00:42:19,710 which is exactly Yeah, exactly. 715 00:42:19,710 --> 00:42:25,860 400 or 300 years later. Yeah. Interesting. So 1636 one of 716 00:42:25,860 --> 00:42:29,130 these pamphlets floated rumors the state was considering taxing 717 00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:32,280 this trade, because they weren't really trading or buying 718 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,280 commodities. It was it was like a kind of like a transaction 719 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:40,320 taxes. What they were looking at to on February 3 1637, is when 720 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,580 the first bad auction took place in Harlan. And there were 721 00:42:44,610 --> 00:42:50,040 essentially no buyers. On February 24. In Amsterdam, there 722 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,320 was a big meeting, all the traders got together and they 723 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,890 said okay, you know what, we've got to unwind all this. Every 724 00:42:55,890 --> 00:43:00,780 trade after November 30 of snideness. 1636 can be unwound 725 00:43:00,780 --> 00:43:05,070 for a 10% fee on the actual transaction. Of course, you 726 00:43:05,070 --> 00:43:07,050 know, the big guys didn't really get hurt, though some of the 727 00:43:07,050 --> 00:43:09,030 little guys got screwed. And so it's kind of kind of like a 728 00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:13,170 bailout. One of the early bailouts. But why did this 729 00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:18,990 happen? And all the tech say that there is a very clear 730 00:43:19,830 --> 00:43:23,190 parallel of the plague. The plague, of course, in the 1600s 731 00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:29,490 was like, no, it happened. But the peak of the of the tulip 732 00:43:29,490 --> 00:43:34,650 mania trade coincided with the peak of the Black Plague where 733 00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:41,160 30% of cities were literally dying. And in 1636, before this, 734 00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:47,580 this bad auction 12 or 14 of the big tulip traders died of the 735 00:43:47,580 --> 00:43:51,420 plague and their kids or their family or other people within 736 00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:56,220 their organization took over the trade. So it's not that crazy to 737 00:43:56,220 --> 00:44:01,290 think that when you have like the backup guy running the trade 738 00:44:01,290 --> 00:44:04,590 or someone who hasn't doesn't know anything about this trading 739 00:44:04,590 --> 00:44:08,880 at all, come into this and there's plague and people are 740 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,570 dying and people you know, it's it's a weird time. That that is 741 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,930 was really the impetus for this to fall apart not so much that 742 00:44:15,930 --> 00:44:18,150 all of a sudden people realize that tulip wasn't worth 743 00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:21,570 anything, which to this day is not true. A tulip is definitely 744 00:44:21,570 --> 00:44:24,720 worth money. It just wasn't worth the kind of money they 745 00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:29,340 were paying for it at the time. So the the crash really 746 00:44:29,340 --> 00:44:33,900 coincided with the new people coming in, after the plague 747 00:44:33,930 --> 00:44:38,040 wiped out the original traders and that's the part that is it's 748 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,340 iffy, at best to say that, you know, there's a bubble, it 749 00:44:41,340 --> 00:44:45,030 always pops it always goes this way. It's it's overvalued. And 750 00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:47,100 it's not the only comparison. That's fair, I think you're 751 00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:51,180 right, is that it's a trade based upon the value of the 752 00:44:51,180 --> 00:44:54,630 trade and what you can make and selling the ownership paper on 753 00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:55,440 instead of the actual 754 00:44:55,530 --> 00:44:58,290 speculation always causes these issues. Exactly. 755 00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:03,449 They're going to hate me for saying this but I don't care. I 756 00:45:03,449 --> 00:45:07,349 remember being invited and accepting the invite on Ray 757 00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:13,049 lanes g five jet to fly from San Francisco to I think it was 758 00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:19,259 Burbank. It was Burbank or no, it was the Long Beach and they 759 00:45:19,259 --> 00:45:21,989 had the Tesla's It was like a huge elitist thing. It was like 760 00:45:21,989 --> 00:45:25,589 lined up there's the E Bay guys playing like everyone's plane 761 00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:29,639 was there. And they had seriously and they had Tesla's 762 00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:32,009 and you would wait in line that drinks and everything and then 763 00:45:32,009 --> 00:45:33,719 you'd get in almost like a 764 00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:36,030 few drinks first. Yeah, like a carnival ride. 765 00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:38,880 And you get in line and you get in line and then you step off a 766 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,160 little podium into the car and then you wait for the next one 767 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,040 to come along. And it was your turn. And then you'd ride around 768 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,970 the tarmac. They had a you know, like kotaki or they had a whole 769 00:45:47,970 --> 00:45:50,730 party on the track. Yeah, and this was this was the investors 770 00:45:50,730 --> 00:45:54,450 scam. And you know, this also got them the money, this huge 771 00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:58,140 elitist thing. Did you go I told you of course I went 772 00:45:58,289 --> 00:46:01,859 you crazy you drove the Tesla were you no good No, I 773 00:46:01,860 --> 00:46:05,820 did not. I did not get in one. Why? I didn't want I don't stand 774 00:46:05,820 --> 00:46:09,720 in line for anything. I did however fly autonomy. 775 00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:12,930 There's a bunch of guys I fly with their private jets standing 776 00:46:12,930 --> 00:46:13,500 in line 777 00:46:13,740 --> 00:46:16,380 to ride a Tesla and then they were putting up on the board who 778 00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:17,070 had bought one 779 00:46:19,110 --> 00:46:20,010 led board 780 00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:22,619 that is that's like something is fine at this like some of you 781 00:46:22,619 --> 00:46:25,619 find down in Alabama. Yeah, yeah, we 782 00:46:25,620 --> 00:46:28,740 got a pig for sale. We got a we got a pig right here. Big fat, 783 00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:31,650 big fat pig. Now anybody wants to buy this pig? It's like a 784 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,310 name on the 785 00:46:32,310 --> 00:46:36,120 list like the niqabs Auto auction. They do that too. We 786 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:42,150 gotta buy over here we got to buy so who was there that bought 787 00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:43,980 one? No, everyone was there visa? 788 00:46:44,370 --> 00:46:46,620 He bought one. Yeah, but you couldn't I don't think you can 789 00:46:46,620 --> 00:46:49,770 fit in one of these things. It's an it's a it's a it's I know, I 790 00:46:49,770 --> 00:46:50,580 don't fit in the Lotus, 791 00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:53,160 Lotus body. This dinky. Now, but 792 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,890 I wasn't interested. I want the reason I wanted 793 00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:58,500 to write free right and usually is more interested in the G phi. 794 00:46:58,530 --> 00:47:02,010 I sat up front in the G five and it was so hilarious. And it was 795 00:47:02,010 --> 00:47:04,710 with bloom and Marta. So it was like four people in the G five 796 00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:08,730 which holds 20 people and how disgusting it is. By like Ray 797 00:47:08,730 --> 00:47:11,880 lane by the way. He's a good guy. Yeah, like I'll ride in 798 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,670 your jet. So I flew, I flew jumpseat in the cockpit. This is 799 00:47:14,670 --> 00:47:20,190 brand new. And this pilots are all cocky like a and Ray lanes 800 00:47:20,190 --> 00:47:23,010 in the back. And I didn't see this. But now they're drinking 801 00:47:23,010 --> 00:47:25,950 scotch and stuff. And he's like, I'm like, I don't need to wear 802 00:47:25,950 --> 00:47:30,390 my seatbelt on my own plane. And they land. And for some reason. 803 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,520 The brakes were on lock when they landed. So the rear wheels 804 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,720 hit the tarmac and boom, the nose wheel slams down. 805 00:47:39,930 --> 00:47:43,110 Apparently Ray Lang went flying through the entire cabin with a 806 00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:43,800 Scott doll. 807 00:47:45,420 --> 00:47:46,110 Yeah. 808 00:47:47,730 --> 00:47:50,280 Those guys are like it was the whole thing was embarrassing. Is 809 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,680 it? Yeah, they're like showing off. Yeah, I got my license 810 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:53,430 like, hey, were 811 00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:57,000 you propeller Boy, you had a copter boy, watch us boom. 812 00:47:57,390 --> 00:48:01,380 almost broke the nose. The nose gear off. was a funny little 813 00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:01,710 bit. 814 00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:06,570 Let me see what I have. 815 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,060 Right now. We're gonna stop. You're gonna tell us about 816 00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:14,190 podcasting. We'll get a request from one of our producers a part 817 00:48:14,190 --> 00:48:20,160 of podcasting that is poorly told. Because by the history 818 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:25,560 books started in 2004. But it actually started in 2000. And I 819 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,530 went to New York, I had to go beat somebody up over some money 820 00:48:28,530 --> 00:48:34,020 I was owed. And which is a true story, nother story for another 821 00:48:34,020 --> 00:48:37,260 time. And Dave Winer was in New York at the time, I think he was 822 00:48:37,260 --> 00:48:41,070 just in as for some conference, and I knew Dave Winer from radio 823 00:48:41,070 --> 00:48:44,190 user land and the blogging stuff, and RSS. And I had 824 00:48:44,190 --> 00:48:47,610 written this, this blog posts, you can still find an 825 00:48:47,610 --> 00:48:52,950 archive.org, which is the the final yard I think it is. So 826 00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:55,680 instead of the last yard just said the last mile, the last 827 00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,210 yard and I had this concept in my head, which was, since at the 828 00:49:00,210 --> 00:49:04,110 time, we only had modems that were there were cable modems 829 00:49:04,110 --> 00:49:06,840 that they were always on. It wasn't broadband. It was no it 830 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,870 was it was more broadband than dial up. But it really wasn't 831 00:49:09,870 --> 00:49:12,780 all that great. The cable infrastructure really sucked. 832 00:49:13,050 --> 00:49:16,260 But you know, you didn't have to dial in. So it was always on. 833 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,230 And I had this idea that in order to create a good 834 00:49:19,230 --> 00:49:22,440 multimedia experience, which we didn't have, it wasn't clicking 835 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,500 play, it was click, wait for 10 minutes, and then all of a 836 00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:28,350 sudden they would play if it was video might take a little less 837 00:49:28,350 --> 00:49:31,200 long with an mp3 file hard for people to imagine. But that's 838 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,460 the world we were in. I said why not? If since the computer is 839 00:49:35,610 --> 00:49:38,520 always on, it's always connected to the internet, why not create 840 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,420 a little thing, a little program that runs in the background. And 841 00:49:42,450 --> 00:49:45,630 when there's when there's a new a new video or piece of content 842 00:49:45,630 --> 00:49:49,680 is available, it downloads it without telling the user but 843 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,890 when it has it on his hard drive, it pops up a message and 844 00:49:52,890 --> 00:49:56,250 says hey, I've got something new for you here. And then you click 845 00:49:56,250 --> 00:50:00,270 on it. It plays immediately which would give you a great A 846 00:50:00,270 --> 00:50:02,490 great experience like oh, I clicked on something and said it 847 00:50:02,490 --> 00:50:04,980 was new and it played immediately which was would have 848 00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:09,570 been sorcery and magic at the time. And I presented this to 849 00:50:09,570 --> 00:50:14,220 Weiner who scoffed at me. And and didn't kick me out because 850 00:50:14,220 --> 00:50:16,950 like feeling whatever, you know, I think he thought it was, you 851 00:50:16,950 --> 00:50:21,900 know, MTV boy Shut up. And but then I took his software, his 852 00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:26,730 radio user land progress, pro scripting application, and I 853 00:50:26,730 --> 00:50:30,510 created what I was talking about. And he looked at it, he 854 00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:32,370 said, I now understand what you're saying, you have to 855 00:50:32,370 --> 00:50:35,040 promise me one thing that was that the you never ever touch my 856 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,360 software again. Okay, I promised that. And that's when he came up 857 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,500 with the way to implement this, which was the enclosure tag in 858 00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:49,410 the RSS feed format. And we were actually using this for three 859 00:50:49,410 --> 00:50:55,260 years before podcasting came to be. But it wasn't until the iPod 860 00:50:55,290 --> 00:50:58,140 happened that from in my head, it clicked like, wait a minute, 861 00:50:58,140 --> 00:51:02,160 we can use this in conjunction with the iPod. Because I looked 862 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,070 at the iPod and didn't say jukeboxes. Everyone was saying I 863 00:51:05,070 --> 00:51:09,660 said radio receiver, all we need to do is have a way for people 864 00:51:09,660 --> 00:51:12,390 to subscribe. And we had that the RSS mechanism was 865 00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:15,420 subscribed. And I built a little script and popped it over to the 866 00:51:15,780 --> 00:51:18,990 to the iPod, and that was the birth of podcasting. 867 00:51:20,460 --> 00:51:21,660 But I'm 868 00:51:24,330 --> 00:51:27,570 going to show my school by donation to no agenda. Imagine 869 00:51:27,570 --> 00:51:30,270 all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. 870 00:51:38,070 --> 00:51:41,640 Wow, that's leet. The good stories, by the way? 871 00:51:41,789 --> 00:51:44,729 Well, of course, I've had a rich life. What do you expect 872 00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:46,710 a lot of show business stories more than I 873 00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:51,900 have? That's for sure. So, in so many still to tell john so many, 874 00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:52,560 I have not told 875 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,140 you that. But we have another hour to go with more. 876 00:51:55,350 --> 00:51:57,150 This is true. This is true. This is true. 877 00:51:57,419 --> 00:52:02,129 In the meantime, of course, we are on leet. Show 1337 which is 878 00:52:02,129 --> 00:52:06,779 lead l e tn hacksaw. And we promised everyone is special 879 00:52:06,779 --> 00:52:09,089 executive producer for the elite show. And we're going to have to 880 00:52:09,089 --> 00:52:15,479 put together a list on 1338, a special elite, elite Elite 881 00:52:15,479 --> 00:52:19,349 listeners. Yes, yes, elites that produced this show today 882 00:52:19,380 --> 00:52:25,890 that well, we also have a like more options like 130 3.7 is is 883 00:52:25,890 --> 00:52:27,990 that the idea? Or is it just is it gotta 884 00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:30,900 be three 885 00:52:30,990 --> 00:52:34,500 options? three options as usual. Good. I mean, I want I want to 886 00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:38,550 lead key chain I want I want to have a challenge coin for this 887 00:52:38,550 --> 00:52:39,300 episode. 888 00:52:39,330 --> 00:52:42,780 It will tell you I'm sure you want a lot. But I it'll be it'll 889 00:52:42,780 --> 00:52:45,090 be in the newsletter I did yesterday. 890 00:52:45,150 --> 00:52:48,540 Nice. Well done. Well done. JOHN. 891 00:52:49,260 --> 00:52:51,660 already done this in the can. 892 00:52:52,020 --> 00:52:56,250 Again, thanks to syrup and waffles or syrup and waffles for 893 00:52:56,250 --> 00:53:01,170 producing this episode. And it's quite a lot of work you put into 894 00:53:01,170 --> 00:53:03,240 it. So that's highly appreciated. This is why we have 895 00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:06,300 the best producers in the universe. And let's get right 896 00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:09,930 into it. Second part of my stories here on no agenda, the 897 00:53:09,930 --> 00:53:10,980 elite edition. 898 00:53:12,810 --> 00:53:13,320 Yeah. 899 00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:16,800 TV Oh, 900 00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:18,810 tell me about? 901 00:53:23,460 --> 00:53:29,670 Yes, off the grid for a moment here with no agenda show. off 902 00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:32,670 the grid? Well, we break up with with big tech, and we're happy 903 00:53:32,670 --> 00:53:36,570 about it. Very happy. I do have a couple stories too, that were 904 00:53:36,570 --> 00:53:41,340 sent in a couple things to mention. And your review. Do you 905 00:53:41,340 --> 00:53:46,050 recall on the previous show, we were talking about the device 906 00:53:46,050 --> 00:53:52,080 the manager, the manager of devices at Google saying yeah, 907 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,810 you should probably disclose to guests that come over. If you're 908 00:53:54,810 --> 00:53:58,590 using a Google speaker or Amazon Alexa, you should probably 909 00:53:58,590 --> 00:54:01,260 disclose to them that these systems are listening all the 910 00:54:01,260 --> 00:54:01,650 time. 911 00:54:01,860 --> 00:54:05,580 Yeah, cuz they didn't sign the document. The EULA. 912 00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:11,700 Right? And do you remember what? We made a recommendation of how 913 00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:15,030 you could shame people into not having these devices? 914 00:54:15,150 --> 00:54:17,520 Yeah, it was extreme, but it was a good idea. 915 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:18,870 So Brad, I 916 00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:20,220 want to repeat it. I 917 00:54:20,430 --> 00:54:25,980 producer producer Brad reports. Adam? The bud porn search 918 00:54:25,980 --> 00:54:30,780 worked. That was my suggestion. Say Hey, Google, search for buck 919 00:54:30,780 --> 00:54:35,700 porn. And Brad writes in Adam no frickin joke, man. You just made 920 00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:39,750 my phone look up but porn. I was playing through a Bluetooth 921 00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:43,350 speaker and you Hey, googled my phone into looking it up. I 922 00:54:43,350 --> 00:54:46,770 couldn't believe it works. So after 15 minutes of browsing, 923 00:54:46,770 --> 00:54:53,850 but porn, email you. So it does work. Excellent. Thank you very 924 00:54:53,850 --> 00:54:58,590 much, Brad for that report. We almost didn't have a show 925 00:54:59,790 --> 00:55:05,310 but happened there? I get protested by the kids now I'm no 926 00:55:05,310 --> 00:55:06,150 No, no, no, I 927 00:55:06,150 --> 00:55:11,760 had a full on overnight point of no return test drive in a 928 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:12,810 battery car. 929 00:55:14,969 --> 00:55:15,749 I crapped out. 930 00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:21,629 No, no, no, I didn't crap out. But the former New York banker, 931 00:55:21,779 --> 00:55:24,419 he needed to go to Galveston and I've always said, Hey, you know, 932 00:55:24,449 --> 00:55:27,119 anytime you need my truck, can you take the truck? Leave the 933 00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:31,499 Tesla with me? Yeah, so we, he calls me up says I gotta take my 934 00:55:31,499 --> 00:55:34,469 kid to Galveston. And then the Tesla can't make it said, Well, 935 00:55:34,889 --> 00:55:38,099 this week and I happen to be going to Bryan College Station, 936 00:55:38,579 --> 00:55:41,789 which is 110 miles from Austin. Oh, yeah, no 937 00:55:41,790 --> 00:55:44,790 problem. Go down round trip on the news. 938 00:55:44,820 --> 00:55:51,150 No, no, sir. No, no, no, no, no, the Tesla will do really real 939 00:55:51,150 --> 00:55:53,490 road performance about 180 miles. 940 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:55,980 No, no, that's not true. 941 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,770 Okay, I just did this. 942 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,580 I'm just telling you I seen the specs heard 943 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,080 on spec, she 944 00:56:07,650 --> 00:56:08,880 was to believe you. 945 00:56:09,330 --> 00:56:12,870 I got Ilan, I got it. I just gotta do you mind if I just run 946 00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:16,260 through my experience? So we can just have a final a final final 947 00:56:16,260 --> 00:56:18,120 on the battery car known as the Tesla. 948 00:56:19,110 --> 00:56:20,010 Go. Okay. 949 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,820 So he's all worried He's like, Oh, you won't make it. So now 950 00:56:23,820 --> 00:56:25,560 I'm staying overnight. Don't worry about a find a 951 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:30,120 place. Second. He owns the car. Yes. And he says you won't make 952 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:35,490 it when it's a known fact they do. 350 miles 350 953 00:56:35,490 --> 00:56:39,660 miles? Which Tesla is that? A seven by tie all of them? 954 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,010 I don't know which one he has that s 90. I don't know which 955 00:56:44,010 --> 00:56:45,090 model? I think. 956 00:56:45,900 --> 00:56:47,040 I think that's the hot rod. 957 00:56:47,070 --> 00:56:49,890 It's the hot rod. Oh, it's a hot rod. We already discussed this. 958 00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:54,780 So I driven this before, but never done an overnight and he 959 00:56:54,780 --> 00:56:57,630 was like, Well, you know, you get you got to charge it. And it 960 00:56:57,630 --> 00:57:00,810 takes you know, eight hours like Dude, don't tell me anything. 961 00:57:00,990 --> 00:57:03,540 This would be great for the show, or we won't have a show. 962 00:57:03,570 --> 00:57:06,960 So let me try it out. He says okay, that's funny. Do that. 963 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,520 Okay, great. So I get in the car, and I driven it before. I'm 964 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,910 sitting now and he drives off in the truck. I'm like, I forgot 965 00:57:14,910 --> 00:57:19,080 how to start this thing. That's how stupid it was, like, Oh, you 966 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,930 don't have to start it. You just got to put it into drive. I can 967 00:57:21,930 --> 00:57:24,330 I was looking for a button. You know, like, my truck has a 968 00:57:24,330 --> 00:57:27,450 button, you press the button, the car starts. So that's how 969 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,890 disoriented I was. But anyway, I remember how it works. I start 970 00:57:31,890 --> 00:57:36,180 driving and he left me with about it said 200 miles on the 971 00:57:37,290 --> 00:57:41,640 on the the range, the range meter. So I started driving. Now 972 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:47,910 this is a this is multiple roads. It's 290 7121. So 973 00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:51,240 there's, you know, the roads aren't really great highways all 974 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:55,320 the way. And some surface issues which may you drive in a Tesla 975 00:57:55,320 --> 00:58:00,180 on a on a poorly surface road. It's It's noisy. It's very 976 00:58:00,180 --> 00:58:04,230 noisy. And I'd also feel like yeah, I think the tires are 977 00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:05,760 something that's low profile tires. 978 00:58:06,510 --> 00:58:08,010 A low profile tire, very 979 00:58:08,010 --> 00:58:12,150 warm, very, very noisy. And I'd forgotten that you actually have 980 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:14,610 to keep your hand on the steering wheel when you do the 981 00:58:14,610 --> 00:58:19,140 auto steer. And it says afterwards Oh, put your hands on 982 00:58:19,140 --> 00:58:21,990 the wheel like Oh, okay. And I kept forgetting this because 983 00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:25,800 it's just plugging along 65 miles an hour. It's deer in 984 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,240 itself. My God. I love this. 985 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,190 He gets some clip on hands. 986 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,900 Well, I'll tell you a couple of things. You don't want that 987 00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:36,960 because these roads You know, sometimes there's a little 988 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,160 construction it splits off at least twice I had to really grab 989 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,920 the wheel and disengage because it would have taken me off into 990 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:51,330 the into the side of the of the drink. Yes, it's not it's not 991 00:58:51,330 --> 00:58:54,210 that great. If you really don't you really don't want to take 992 00:58:54,210 --> 00:58:57,030 but I did keep my hands off three times and then it goes 993 00:58:57,180 --> 00:59:01,110 bing bing bing bing autosteer no longer available for this trip 994 00:59:01,110 --> 00:59:04,860 you stupid slave he could put in jail and you get put into auto 995 00:59:04,860 --> 00:59:08,100 steering jail pants to pull over you got to put it in park and 996 00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:10,860 then you know then you can use the auto steer again. But I'm 997 00:59:10,860 --> 00:59:14,910 telling you, john, no one should no one should rely on this auto 998 00:59:14,910 --> 00:59:19,140 steer. Unless you're on a you know proper Highway near with at 999 00:59:19,140 --> 00:59:22,920 least three lanes. You really don't want to do this. I'm 1000 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,830 telling you three, two times that a really I would have gone 1001 00:59:25,830 --> 00:59:29,220 off three Dukes of Hazzard style. Anyway, so I get there. 1002 00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:33,810 Remember, I started out with 100 and a little under 200. I get 1003 00:59:33,810 --> 00:59:41,520 there I've got four ny has 35 miles left. It's 110 mile trip. 1004 00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:45,720 So already the battery things like your phone. You know it 1005 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,480 tells you got a couple hours but then when you get right down to 1006 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:49,260 it, you really don't 1007 00:59:49,290 --> 00:59:50,610 get 15 minutes. 1008 00:59:50,670 --> 00:59:56,460 Yeah. And I had to find a charger and just a hotel they 1009 00:59:56,460 --> 01:00:00,660 already met well, hon, but you'd already mapped it out. So this 1010 01:00:00,660 --> 01:00:01,590 was not a problem 1011 01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:05,310 no I had downloaded you gotta get a million apps you got to 1012 01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:10,050 get charged station you got to get Evie go You have to 1013 01:00:10,050 --> 01:00:13,680 understand what the different charging options are level one 1014 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,050 level two and then the big conquer which is the 1015 01:00:16,050 --> 01:00:20,280 supercharger which pretty much only existed Tesla stores I 1016 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:20,700 think 1017 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,470 I'm out here in California 1018 01:00:22,530 --> 01:00:27,510 yeah i'm sure in California but not in Texas. Like Now luckily 1019 01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:31,620 This is Aggie land. This is a in Texas a&m, they got a big campus 1020 01:00:31,620 --> 01:00:34,230 and sure enough, there's a whole bunch of chargers but they're 1021 01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:38,580 all three miles away. Because it's it's a it's called a 1022 01:00:38,580 --> 01:00:42,510 station everything's three miles away. So I'm driving around and 1023 01:00:42,510 --> 01:00:46,410 chatting I ever been on campus in the weekend. And all the 1024 01:00:46,410 --> 01:00:48,780 gates are up and down. That thing's like a penitentiary. 1025 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,310 Texas a&m is a is a fucking jail. Everything is a gate this 1026 01:00:53,340 --> 01:00:56,430 cameras looking at your license plate scanning you before you 1027 01:00:56,430 --> 01:01:01,080 can go in I finally find the garage after trying to pull into 1028 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,930 one that that had a charging station but was only for 1029 01:01:03,930 --> 01:01:07,680 students. And now I'm down to like 15 miles you know, it's 1030 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,520 it's a white knuckle I'm getting low battery warnings. It's we're 1031 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:11,850 going to 1032 01:01:11,850 --> 01:01:15,570 shut to grade. The worst part of I just did all these electric 1033 01:01:15,570 --> 01:01:19,410 cars. Yeah, the white knuckle thing is the worst. Yeah, well, 1034 01:01:19,410 --> 01:01:22,170 I'm like, No, you can't look at a can of gas. 1035 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:27,780 Hmm. So and it's given me these warnings and via which flash on 1036 01:01:27,780 --> 01:01:29,970 and off, they go away before you can really read them properly. 1037 01:01:29,970 --> 01:01:32,640 So we're gonna shut down stuff like what what are you going to 1038 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,420 shut down and shut down the heated seats shuts down the air 1039 01:01:36,420 --> 01:01:39,270 conditioning is getting a little. Okay, finally, I'm in 1040 01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:42,600 the garage. There it is the charger. And now I really start 1041 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,420 to realize what all of this entails because you have to have 1042 01:01:45,420 --> 01:01:49,470 you have to be a member of the charger network. So it's hold 1043 01:01:49,470 --> 01:01:51,720 your card, I don't have a card, I just want to charge I need 1044 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,930 some power. And this is a level two. So it's usually no more 1045 01:01:54,930 --> 01:01:59,970 than 220 volts. And you jam that and it'll take, I think it gives 1046 01:01:59,970 --> 01:02:03,330 you 80 miles per hour that you sit there charging. 1047 01:02:03,930 --> 01:02:08,610 So let me get this straight. Instead of it accepting a normal 1048 01:02:08,610 --> 01:02:13,350 credit card, or American Express. Yep. It requires you to 1049 01:02:13,350 --> 01:02:16,440 actually be a member? Yes. Oh, wait, let me guess why? Because 1050 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,670 it serves alcohol. 1051 01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:22,650 I think it would be for tracking purposes, you really don't feel 1052 01:02:22,650 --> 01:02:29,520 very free in this ecosystem. So now Luckily, well, you can 1053 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,400 download their app. And we know what that means they get all 1054 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,310 your information. And then you can sign up with your credit 1055 01:02:35,310 --> 01:02:37,920 card with your name. So now they have everything on me. I can't 1056 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,850 just anonymously tap up or tank up or top up. I have to tell 1057 01:02:41,850 --> 01:02:46,770 them who I am. Then you can use your phone as the the near the 1058 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,100 NFC near field communication. Click OK. And then you can 1059 01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:56,250 finally start and you put it in. And you know, I walked away and 1060 01:02:56,250 --> 01:02:59,640 of course I had to drop a pin. Tell Tina where it was she'd 1061 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,990 come and pick me up in her car has her gas 1062 01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:05,070 car gas car, 1063 01:03:05,580 --> 01:03:10,410 or gas guzzler her horrible climate change causing vehicle? 1064 01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:16,230 So, you know, I don't know like, How do I know that? You know, 1065 01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:18,540 it's still charging. Yeah, what 1066 01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:20,970 happens if it craps out in the middle of the charge and decides 1067 01:03:20,970 --> 01:03:24,600 to stop? Well, the answer said Oh, well wait, wait, wait. 1068 01:03:25,110 --> 01:03:28,200 You're a member of the club and you've got this app. And so if 1069 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,540 that happens, you're immediately alerted. 1070 01:03:31,650 --> 01:03:32,700 Possibly. 1071 01:03:35,250 --> 01:03:38,910 So I got enough charge. We still had to leave last night at 10 1072 01:03:38,910 --> 01:03:42,450 o'clock. See it's a good two hour drive certainly at night. 1073 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,860 So it really only charged for six hours. So when we left I had 1074 01:03:46,860 --> 01:03:52,440 a I had 155 miles to go. I got in on like a penlight battery 1075 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,710 charge pretty much into the into the garage that are placed in 1076 01:03:55,710 --> 01:04:00,150 downtown Austin. But you know, this car and also after two 1077 01:04:00,150 --> 01:04:02,670 hours of driving you don't want to drive this more than it can 1078 01:04:02,670 --> 01:04:06,000 do. You're tired. It's bad. It's you know, it's it's a sports 1079 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,080 car. It's It's rough. You know, it's not it's not a smooth ride. 1080 01:04:10,170 --> 01:04:14,100 This is this product. I can't speak for all electric vehicles. 1081 01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:17,490 But this product that Tesla has got to be one of the stupidest 1082 01:04:17,490 --> 01:04:22,200 things ever invented and people who live nearby one people who 1083 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,410 buy one or either virtue signaling have too much money 1084 01:04:25,410 --> 01:04:25,620 was 1085 01:04:25,620 --> 01:04:27,120 that Oh, there's that. 1086 01:04:27,150 --> 01:04:30,930 It's stupid. It's a stupid, it's stupid friend. This 1087 01:04:30,930 --> 01:04:33,780 is not the same report you gave us the last time. 1088 01:04:34,170 --> 01:04:37,080 I don't even know it's not your right. Maybe it's because the 1089 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,900 car's been on the road for a couple of years. I don't know 1090 01:04:39,900 --> 01:04:44,880 maybe they did an upgrade. Maybe it was you know, the, you know, 1091 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:49,380 sophomore experience like no, this it really was not a great 1092 01:04:49,890 --> 01:04:53,100 product in my mind. It's not great. It's not 1093 01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:57,780 like somebody they find the old clip of Adam going on and on 1094 01:04:57,780 --> 01:05:01,260 about the greatest thing ever and how that Hands Free is 1095 01:05:01,260 --> 01:05:04,740 fantastic or whatever it was a driver auto drive. 1096 01:05:04,770 --> 01:05:05,340 Yeah, 1097 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,800 none of these complaints, none zip. 1098 01:05:10,469 --> 01:05:14,939 So we're going to go down route 35, which is you and we left 1099 01:05:14,939 --> 01:05:19,199 around for 334 o'clock. So traffic is building up and I 35 1100 01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:23,369 can get pretty gnarly. Let me tell you something. This this 1101 01:05:23,369 --> 01:05:27,869 car blew my mind with autopilot. I did not drive to New Braunfels 1102 01:05:27,899 --> 01:05:32,669 the car drove itself. Oh, that's nice come from stop and go 1103 01:05:32,669 --> 01:05:36,599 traffic, we were on the web browser were connected phones, 1104 01:05:36,659 --> 01:05:39,749 and the car is just driving by In fact, at a certain point, we 1105 01:05:39,749 --> 01:05:42,749 have to get off I 35. And I'm thinking, I wonder if it'll 1106 01:05:42,749 --> 01:05:46,379 actually just do that too. And that's how comfortable it felt 1107 01:05:46,649 --> 01:05:47,819 lane changes. 1108 01:05:47,970 --> 01:05:50,580 Click on I never drove one with that feature. Oh 1109 01:05:50,580 --> 01:05:54,630 my god. Now I'm very familiar with adaptive cruise control. 1110 01:05:54,750 --> 01:05:57,180 And with no with systems that keep you in your lane that will 1111 01:05:57,180 --> 01:06:01,470 kind of pop you back into the lane. But this was an absolute 1112 01:06:01,620 --> 01:06:06,750 mind boggling experience. Any car I have in the future, I want 1113 01:06:06,750 --> 01:06:13,200 this technology in it. You know what I did a reality show of our 1114 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:22,470 family called Addams Family. In 2002, I think 2000 to 2003. And 1115 01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:24,990 we produce it all ourselves. So we had like one camera guy 1116 01:06:24,990 --> 01:06:28,320 living with this, I did a camera and had one editor everything 1117 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,200 done on Final Cut Pro and it was broadcast every Saturday night 1118 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,970 primetime. on SBS broadcasting in the Netherlands, you know, I 1119 01:06:35,970 --> 01:06:37,980 have the rights to that, you know, we could do first of all, 1120 01:06:37,980 --> 01:06:40,410 I want you to see it because I think you get a kick out of it. 1121 01:06:40,410 --> 01:06:45,210 Because even though it was completely unscripted, and 1122 01:06:45,210 --> 01:06:48,720 everything happened, everything you saw was chronological order. 1123 01:06:49,470 --> 01:06:52,620 You'll see that just by editing, we really made it into something 1124 01:06:52,620 --> 01:06:55,680 entertaining, and particularly editing to hit records, you 1125 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,730 know, like soundtrack to your life type hit records, which I 1126 01:06:59,730 --> 01:07:03,600 should put that up online. Because I have the rights. You 1127 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,580 should but I want to make everyone I want to make money 1128 01:07:05,580 --> 01:07:05,880 off of 1129 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,590 it. Good luck. 1130 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,070 So I'm shopping in this street, I'm going looking for some 1131 01:07:17,070 --> 01:07:22,650 shoes. And so I found some fun, you know, there's some, some 1132 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,130 shop I went into, and I did some really cool looking pair of 1133 01:07:26,130 --> 01:07:29,610 shoes. And I feel great by didn't quite fit right. But the 1134 01:07:29,610 --> 01:07:31,440 guy gave me a lecture. So well, you know, this is one of the 1135 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:36,690 last two shoe companies left in Holland that made these shoes. 1136 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,480 And he went on and on with a lament about how many shoe 1137 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,580 companies are used to mean I guess this goes back to the 1138 01:07:41,610 --> 01:07:44,940 wooden shoe days. He said that I guess there were hundreds at one 1139 01:07:44,940 --> 01:07:48,120 point Sure. And they've all consolidated down to like one or 1140 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:49,560 two and they're about to go broke. 1141 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,280 Well, and that's also part of a larger gripe in the Netherlands 1142 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,700 is that they you know, they've been saying for maybe 15 or 20 1143 01:07:56,700 --> 01:08:00,450 years you know the government has basically put Holland into 1144 01:08:00,450 --> 01:08:06,510 the into the into the storefront window everything has been sold 1145 01:08:06,540 --> 01:08:09,450 they don't make anything new we were complaining about America 1146 01:08:09,690 --> 01:08:12,720 they don't make anything there was nothing being produced in 1147 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:18,270 Holland anymore nothing zero you know except well banking and 1148 01:08:18,270 --> 01:08:22,980 that just got sold ABN AMRO, you know, sold to what was that? 1149 01:08:23,010 --> 01:08:23,790 Barclays? 1150 01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:25,949 I don't know. I didn't follow that. 1151 01:08:25,980 --> 01:08:28,680 Yeah, so that was the kind of like the last thing the 1152 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,380 Netherlands has. And you know, and there's just no more 1153 01:08:31,380 --> 01:08:36,660 industry there. And it used to be a very industrious trading 1154 01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:39,210 based nation. No longer 1155 01:08:41,699 --> 01:08:42,719 I don't know what to tell you. 1156 01:08:43,380 --> 01:08:45,840 Nothing. So I don't really 1157 01:08:47,039 --> 01:08:50,639 I don't know why these countries believe. I guess you know, 1158 01:08:50,639 --> 01:08:53,969 they're all locked into this internationalism globalism and 1159 01:08:53,969 --> 01:08:59,129 they believe that they can get all their products elsewhere 1160 01:08:59,129 --> 01:09:01,499 cheaper in such a way that they never have to worry about ever 1161 01:09:01,499 --> 01:09:04,289 making them again, but Gee, if some you know, Hitler cropped 1162 01:09:04,289 --> 01:09:09,719 up, you know that in this day and age would be easy to do. 1163 01:09:09,719 --> 01:09:11,789 These countries would be a walk over, they wouldn't have to have 1164 01:09:11,789 --> 01:09:13,109 a blitzkrieg. No, 1165 01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:16,290 oh no, it would be. It would be very easy. The Netherlands Of 1166 01:09:16,290 --> 01:09:19,920 course in the Second World War capitulated within like five 1167 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,400 days, they gave up their three rifles and two bicycles. 1168 01:09:24,119 --> 01:09:26,729 And well more than two bicycles according to the Dutch, that's 1169 01:09:26,729 --> 01:09:29,069 all they do. is they still bitch about the fact that the bicycles 1170 01:09:29,069 --> 01:09:29,999 are never returned? 1171 01:09:30,329 --> 01:09:34,259 Yeah, they get off. Oh, God. That is, that is a joke. We 1172 01:09:34,259 --> 01:09:35,579 don't make any more in Holland, 1173 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:36,300 john. 1174 01:09:37,919 --> 01:09:41,819 That is, that is no longer valid, culturally speaking, not 1175 01:09:41,819 --> 01:09:42,839 politically correct. 1176 01:09:43,919 --> 01:09:45,749 Why when did that change? 1177 01:09:46,590 --> 01:09:49,410 Well, as we all got older, you know, I've dealt with lots of 1178 01:09:49,410 --> 01:09:52,260 Germans my age and you know, there's this great the new 1179 01:09:52,260 --> 01:09:54,990 Germans, I'll just call them you know, the generation that has 1180 01:09:54,990 --> 01:09:58,050 now grown up that was you know, that didn't grow the grow grew 1181 01:09:58,050 --> 01:10:00,810 up whose parents were born during the second In World War 1182 01:10:01,830 --> 01:10:06,420 they're very reliable in general that have to say in business 1183 01:10:06,420 --> 01:10:09,720 dealings. They're pretty reliable. They're, they're 1184 01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,320 friendly. They're, you know, they do I like doing business 1185 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,080 with them and they and they, culturally, they're, they're 1186 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:20,070 quite rich, you know? So we just don't mess with them anymore 1187 01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:22,980 because now they're just our good neighbors and we you know, 1188 01:10:22,980 --> 01:10:26,040 and by the way what an economy You know, there's the 1189 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,040 Netherlands when Germany sneezes the Netherlands you know catches 1190 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:29,610 the cold 1191 01:10:30,570 --> 01:10:33,870 so the bicycle issue is, is off the table. 1192 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:38,940 Yeah, we we do not know what now we do not say that anymore. Now. 1193 01:10:41,130 --> 01:10:44,940 Yesterday we went over to the Netherlands and just to have 1194 01:10:44,940 --> 01:10:48,690 dinner basically with my sister about the both of my sisters 1195 01:10:48,690 --> 01:10:53,280 their significant others and and the kids. And so we just got 1196 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,120 back and I'm ready to get this new year's thing over with 1197 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:57,600 already. 1198 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,210 So what's where'd you eat? 1199 01:11:01,140 --> 01:11:04,470 This place called a veranda? Which actually, I have a better 1200 01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:07,140 dinner story, although this was fun, but this was kind of a 1201 01:11:07,140 --> 01:11:08,970 place where the kids could run around. Yeah, they're like, 1202 01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:13,650 between the ages seven and 10. So, you know, it's like, we 1203 01:11:13,650 --> 01:11:16,800 didn't go to an overly posh place. I did. However, with 1204 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,950 Christina and Patricia and Christina's boyfriend do George 1205 01:11:19,950 --> 01:11:23,400 Jake. We went to Clifton house. You familiar with Clifton? 1206 01:11:24,449 --> 01:11:25,319 Oh, yeah. Okay, 1207 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,390 so we went there. And we had because we've patrician I've 1208 01:11:27,390 --> 01:11:30,870 stayed there before. And we went to have dinner. And I was 1209 01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:33,450 already there. I was like, Okay, I'm going to order a really 1210 01:11:33,450 --> 01:11:36,330 awesome bottle of wine. Because I know Patricia will be, she'll 1211 01:11:36,330 --> 01:11:40,080 be into it. And, you know, I was sure I could, you know, between 1212 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,360 the two of us, I could probably do a bottle of wine. I was 1213 01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:48,690 really gonna get a good one. And I'm looking at the, the, what do 1214 01:11:48,690 --> 01:11:50,700 you call it? The wine menu, the wine list. 1215 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,060 It's the wine list. And I think if I'm not mistaken, that place 1216 01:11:54,060 --> 01:11:56,370 has one that looks like the Manhattan phone director. 1217 01:11:56,370 --> 01:12:03,600 It's amazing. And I saw it. It was 1953 Latour. I'm like, yeah, 1218 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,160 I'm gonna go for this baby 1219 01:12:05,190 --> 01:12:07,410 gets the price. Can I get the price? Yeah. 1220 01:12:08,850 --> 01:12:12,750 Now you have I know the pound price. So you know, your 1221 01:12:12,780 --> 01:12:13,800 currency, my guess is 1222 01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:19,320 in pounds, I guess it in pounds. Now England and they would do in 1223 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,410 America in the United States, I think we would probably that one 1224 01:12:22,410 --> 01:12:28,350 would be around 53 let Jordan run probably about 70 $500. Now, 1225 01:12:28,350 --> 01:12:32,700 I would think that in England, because they're closer to the 1226 01:12:32,700 --> 01:12:35,970 source and collect those wines. broadly across those kinds of 1227 01:12:35,970 --> 01:12:40,950 restaurants. I'm thinking that wine might be priced as low as 1228 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,450 3000 pounds. And actually, 1229 01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:49,230 there were a couple of tours the there were two different ones 1230 01:12:49,500 --> 01:12:55,320 from 53. And one of them was 30 401 of them was 2400. So you 1231 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,200 were awfully awfully close. In fact, right. I was right in the 1232 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,230 middle. Yeah, right in the middle. But needless to say, 1233 01:13:01,230 --> 01:13:06,960 Patricia Lang, I don't feel like wine tonight. And then what do 1234 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,240 you do? He's like, yeah, I'm not gonna drink a whole bottle of 1235 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,050 wine. What do you say to him? You know, Jordan, no 1236 01:13:13,050 --> 01:13:13,530 problem. 1237 01:13:13,530 --> 01:13:16,110 I know. But you know, tell us give me a doggie bag and I'll 1238 01:13:16,110 --> 01:13:18,690 take it home with me. I don't want to just drink it by myself. 1239 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,580 So I didn't do it. And I know it sounds incredibly bourgeois or 1240 01:13:25,500 --> 01:13:27,630 what is the word I'm looking for? Yeah, we're talking about 1241 01:13:27,630 --> 01:13:30,930 it. You know? 7000? decadent. Oh, yes. Thank you. We're 1242 01:13:30,930 --> 01:13:34,440 talking about a $7,000 bottle of wine, but it really was gonna be 1243 01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:39,150 my gift to myself. And didn't have to die. Yeah. 1244 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,050 You could probably track that wind down on the open market. 1245 01:13:43,050 --> 01:13:47,910 $4,000. Maybe Really? Wow. Yeah. 1246 01:13:47,940 --> 01:13:50,340 Well, let's do that. Fuck it. When I come to San Francisco. 1247 01:13:50,340 --> 01:13:56,190 Let's track one down, Johnny boy. They tell you that. Laurie 1248 01:13:56,190 --> 01:13:59,310 Turner contacted me that I tell you about this story. Know, 1249 01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:04,980 Laurie Turner, better known as Lt. In West Virginia. When I 1250 01:14:04,980 --> 01:14:08,100 went to school, we had a radio station it was wi TB which 1251 01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:12,090 officially stood for we're in the basement. But of course, we 1252 01:14:12,090 --> 01:14:15,900 all knew it really meant we're into bong hits. And it was a low 1253 01:14:15,900 --> 01:14:18,720 power FM station. I was running the station within like three 1254 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:23,520 months. But there was a DJ there who had and she was a I think 1255 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,600 she was sophomore junior. I can remember Lori Turner and she was 1256 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,300 kind of this you know, exactly the kind of girl I kind of like 1257 01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:32,910 a little tomboy ish. And she had to add, you know, this, of 1258 01:14:32,910 --> 01:14:35,280 course, was early 80s. So she had a little bit of streak of 1259 01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:41,370 pink in her hair. And, and she was a good jock. And I was, you 1260 01:14:41,370 --> 01:14:49,050 know, so we wound up having sex once and the next day. She said, 1261 01:14:49,050 --> 01:14:52,770 You know what? I think I'm lesbian. 1262 01:14:56,250 --> 01:14:58,770 story that very few guys would relate to anyone but 1263 01:14:59,130 --> 01:15:03,480 my daughter loves This story by the way, the only time I had sex 1264 01:15:03,480 --> 01:15:06,240 in college is the next day, you know, and I'm really digging 1265 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:06,720 chicks. 1266 01:15:08,849 --> 01:15:11,699 So she and she dropped me a note. The other said, Hey, man, 1267 01:15:11,699 --> 01:15:15,689 never me. It's a lie. She said her name is different now. So 1268 01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:18,569 I'm not going to, but she's still in radio, and she's 1269 01:15:18,749 --> 01:15:23,069 managing bands, and she's still lesbian. was great, like, hey, 1270 01:15:23,069 --> 01:15:26,669 Lt. How you doing? My 18 year old daughter really likes that 1271 01:15:26,669 --> 01:15:31,889 story. So what happens is, you take your passport, you want to 1272 01:15:31,889 --> 01:15:34,739 fly to a different country. And let's say you want to go to the 1273 01:15:34,739 --> 01:15:37,199 United Kingdom, not a part of the Schengen agreement. So it's 1274 01:15:37,199 --> 01:15:39,839 not really Europe, you have to show your passport when you 1275 01:15:39,839 --> 01:15:47,339 enter. The note will pop up and say, Come with me. So you'll 1276 01:15:47,339 --> 01:15:52,079 have to, you'll have to go. And there's there's some language 1277 01:15:52,079 --> 01:15:56,729 here about what it actually is so seriously, delinquent tax 1278 01:15:56,729 --> 01:16:01,049 debt. So first of all has to be $50,000 or more, for which a 1279 01:16:01,049 --> 01:16:03,929 notice of lien has been filed in public records pursuant to 1280 01:16:03,929 --> 01:16:07,799 Section 6323. Or a notice of levy has been filed, which is 1281 01:16:07,799 --> 01:16:09,659 basically a wage garnishment. 1282 01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:13,350 Which I've had this happens, let's say hi just happened to 1283 01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:17,070 me. As everybody. Yeah. So it happens. And there's so they 1284 01:16:17,070 --> 01:16:19,710 pull the passport. So the State Department has to go through a 1285 01:16:19,710 --> 01:16:22,830 rigmarole. And then the guy pays because you've you know, your 1286 01:16:22,830 --> 01:16:24,450 pay, and then 1287 01:16:25,500 --> 01:16:28,170 then it takes forever. Remember, I went through this. 1288 01:16:29,250 --> 01:16:30,690 You didn't lose your passport. 1289 01:16:30,690 --> 01:16:34,530 No, I would have had this been in play. But I remember they say 1290 01:16:34,530 --> 01:16:35,280 we know it takes 1291 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,900 forever. We don't know that it takes for I 1292 01:16:36,900 --> 01:16:41,220 do because I do. Because this happened to me. They said well, 1293 01:16:41,220 --> 01:16:44,490 we can't win. My name started showing up on the payroll of me. 1294 01:16:44,490 --> 01:16:50,160 VO or then Poncho in 2005. I was living in the UK. And they say 1295 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:54,570 well, you Where have you been for since 1999? So Well, I left 1296 01:16:54,570 --> 01:16:59,910 the country. Oh, yeah. We can't find any filings. Do you didn't 1297 01:16:59,910 --> 01:17:03,540 file any you know, you don't have to pay taxes twice. But we 1298 01:17:03,540 --> 01:17:06,690 can't find any filings from you. So we're putting a lien and we 1299 01:17:06,690 --> 01:17:12,660 think that's about $2.4 million. Mr. Curry. And they kick the IRS 1300 01:17:12,659 --> 01:17:14,369 came into our get your attention. 1301 01:17:14,580 --> 01:17:17,040 They did the IRS came into our building with their guns. 1302 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:17,820 Remember that? 1303 01:17:18,060 --> 01:17:19,140 I wasn't there. 1304 01:17:19,170 --> 01:17:22,680 Yeah, they came into their hands on their guns. Noted looking for 1305 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:27,480 me table so we can't find us ever hear of Google? Idiot curry 1306 01:17:27,510 --> 01:17:31,950 calm ever think of looking for me online? And, you know, so 1307 01:17:31,950 --> 01:17:33,450 then I had to go through all that 1308 01:17:33,450 --> 01:17:36,660 reminds me of the time. Does it number of john devore. I said 1309 01:17:36,660 --> 01:17:40,200 are writers. Yeah, believe it or not. And so I get a call from 1310 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:46,080 the IRS. Guys bs grousing at me says okay, just john devore. 1311 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:50,640 Yeah, just Well, you're gonna give us our $70,000 I mean, when 1312 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:55,110 you're gonna pay. And I said, What are you talking about? And 1313 01:17:55,140 --> 01:18:02,640 me, me, you know, kind of says, Yeah, your blah, blah, blah. And 1314 01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,340 I said, I don't know anything about what you're talking about 1315 01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:09,450 your john Dvorak. Right. So yeah. He and I said, and then I 1316 01:18:09,450 --> 01:18:13,860 just, I guess I got lucky. I said, Where am I supposed to be? 1317 01:18:14,250 --> 01:18:18,810 I said, you're in Kansas. Kansas City said no. I'm in Port 1318 01:18:18,810 --> 01:18:21,600 Angeles. Washington was where it was when I got the call. He 1319 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,320 says, uh, I said, What's your social security? Now? I started 1320 01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,660 grilling him. What's the social security number you got there? 1321 01:18:27,660 --> 01:18:31,020 He said, Well, what's yours? And I told him, he says, oh, oh, 1322 01:18:31,020 --> 01:18:32,010 that's interesting. 1323 01:18:33,540 --> 01:18:34,080 Really? 1324 01:18:34,530 --> 01:18:35,100 Yeah. 1325 01:18:36,060 --> 01:18:37,500 Do you happen to know what another? 1326 01:18:39,239 --> 01:18:41,849 JOHN Dworkin, Kansas is mine agenda. Why did you go to 1327 01:18:41,849 --> 01:18:44,939 Kansas? But she called the Kansas guy. Yeah, 1328 01:18:44,970 --> 01:18:47,520 you know, that is not the only john Dvorak in the world. I 1329 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,490 don't know why they got my name or why they called me but then 1330 01:18:50,490 --> 01:18:52,980 that was all sorry. And they you know, I have you said he's 1331 01:18:52,980 --> 01:18:53,700 sorry, just hung 1332 01:18:53,699 --> 01:18:57,629 over. My point is it took me almost half a year to get my 1333 01:18:57,629 --> 01:19:01,589 wage garnishment removed for them because that, you know, I 1334 01:19:01,589 --> 01:19:06,599 had to prove, of course, that I had been overseas and I had to 1335 01:19:06,599 --> 01:19:09,839 go through quite a quite a bit of crap. And meanwhile, you 1336 01:19:09,839 --> 01:19:10,289 know, 1337 01:19:11,250 --> 01:19:14,160 I came up with this number, this, this multimillion dollar 1338 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,950 figure you weren't making that kind of money, and maybe Oh, 1339 01:19:17,130 --> 01:19:19,860 no, but they look at 10 years. They say we haven't you haven't 1340 01:19:19,860 --> 01:19:20,640 filed taxes 1341 01:19:21,060 --> 01:19:23,820 here in 10 years, plus all the penalties and everything is 1342 01:19:23,820 --> 01:19:27,480 crank crank this exactly make $100,000 a year and end up 1343 01:19:27,480 --> 01:19:30,390 having to pay a $2 million dollar tax bill, and then 1344 01:19:30,390 --> 01:19:31,320 something pay for 1345 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:35,130 DJI and so then finally, they said okay, we agree and then 1346 01:19:35,130 --> 01:19:37,740 still took six weeks for them to actually because he had the 1347 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,440 media couldn't just say, okay, we believe you know, they have 1348 01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:44,550 to wait for official notice. It goes through the payroll system 1349 01:19:44,550 --> 01:19:51,180 and all that. No, it's it's hosed. It's hosed. I'm not a fan 1350 01:19:51,180 --> 01:19:56,490 of Kennedy. on Fox because I worked with her and she was tos 1351 01:19:56,490 --> 01:19:59,850 douchey at MTV. She broke my ass. I should probably tell the 1352 01:19:59,850 --> 01:20:00,300 story Or 1353 01:20:01,829 --> 01:20:03,179 broke your ass. And 1354 01:20:03,180 --> 01:20:06,930 yeah was the MTV beach house, which was the first year of that 1355 01:20:06,930 --> 01:20:10,320 was fantastic was a great idea. Everyone was out in the Hamptons 1356 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:14,340 and a huge mansion. And we're doing our shows from there. And 1357 01:20:14,340 --> 01:20:17,400 I think I was doing a segment with Kennedy on wave runners, 1358 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:22,500 which are now mistakenly called jet skis. And I was doing my 1359 01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:27,300 segment standstill in the water. And she thought it would be 1360 01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:33,330 funny to ram her wave runner into me, when of course I'm not 1361 01:20:33,330 --> 01:20:36,780 expecting it from behind, and what happens I fall off, and I 1362 01:20:36,780 --> 01:20:40,890 fall on the edge of the wave runner with my ass. And it 1363 01:20:40,890 --> 01:20:45,840 actually ruptured the muscle. And so to this day, I have a 1364 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:53,700 little little dent in my butt. Thank you, Kennedy. Christina is 1365 01:20:53,700 --> 01:20:55,140 on our way to Jordan right now. 1366 01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:56,550 Why 1367 01:20:57,630 --> 01:21:02,430 she signed up for this show. Oh, no. Yeah, reality show. 1368 01:21:02,460 --> 01:21:03,690 You have to go rescue her. 1369 01:21:04,949 --> 01:21:08,159 And the way it works is they they tell you on the day, you're 1370 01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:09,479 going to leave where you're going. 1371 01:21:10,500 --> 01:21:11,910 She's been doing this before. 1372 01:21:11,940 --> 01:21:13,860 Yeah, that was not a good experience. This is 1373 01:21:15,659 --> 01:21:18,719 where she went to Africa. Yeah. And it was all actors. Yeah, it 1374 01:21:18,719 --> 01:21:21,149 was all she thought she was living with a tribe this story 1375 01:21:21,149 --> 01:21:24,119 that is the funniest, most humiliating story. So 1376 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:28,650 the idea was you should tell it should be fun. The It was like a 1377 01:21:28,650 --> 01:21:31,500 Celebrity Big Brother type. But you know, get out of the jungle 1378 01:21:31,500 --> 01:21:35,730 type things that the idea was the celebrities would go to 1379 01:21:35,730 --> 01:21:39,630 Africa and live with an African tribe for a week or 10 days. And 1380 01:21:39,630 --> 01:21:41,880 you know, Christina called me about his I felt really bad. The 1381 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,670 most bad somebody think that look, I've traveled the world on 1382 01:21:44,670 --> 01:21:48,210 someone else's dime, grab the opportunity. Go, go go. What, 1383 01:21:48,210 --> 01:21:52,020 uh, how great is that? Um, so she's in there for a week. And 1384 01:21:52,020 --> 01:21:54,960 she's, you know, she's completely into it. Because this 1385 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,570 is my daughter's like, this is so stupid, but I'll just get 1386 01:21:57,570 --> 01:22:01,800 into it. No matter what. And you know, she even had her boobs out 1387 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,430 like all the all the other women in the camp and his hall and 1388 01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:09,210 firewood. And then then, like, near the end, all of a sudden, 1389 01:22:09,390 --> 01:22:12,300 they say, hey, surprise, we speak Dutch. And it was all a 1390 01:22:12,300 --> 01:22:14,880 big joke. And she was devastated. 1391 01:22:15,449 --> 01:22:17,369 Yeah, there wasn't anything. 1392 01:22:17,370 --> 01:22:21,870 It was a bunch of actors with a bowl crap, customs and rituals. 1393 01:22:21,870 --> 01:22:24,870 Yeah, that's true. That's so sad. 1394 01:22:25,140 --> 01:22:27,960 So now I think that's a great idea for a show. I think it 1395 01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,660 should have been done in the United States. Now. It failed 1396 01:22:30,660 --> 01:22:31,290 miserably. The 1397 01:22:31,290 --> 01:22:32,940 audience did not like it. 1398 01:22:33,300 --> 01:22:35,730 Because it was too big, too. It was too over the top. Well, you 1399 01:22:35,730 --> 01:22:38,460 can make fun of poor African slaves. You see this or 1400 01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:41,580 something like that? Yeah. Something like that. That would 1401 01:22:41,580 --> 01:22:41,730 never 1402 01:22:42,030 --> 01:22:44,760 do it. You take it out of Africa and move it into the ghetto. 1403 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,390 Yeah, that would work the deep south Appalachian because that 1404 01:22:48,540 --> 01:22:51,360 might be offensive to so it's hard to make it not offensive, 1405 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:56,250 but it is funny. Yeah. You're going to tell us the Madonna 1406 01:22:56,250 --> 01:22:56,700 story. 1407 01:22:56,910 --> 01:22:59,910 Oh, the Madonna story. Jeez, I'm glad you reminded me. 1408 01:23:00,330 --> 01:23:03,870 Cavalia. You're wandering off. Like, like you were trying to 1409 01:23:03,870 --> 01:23:05,190 avoid it. Anyway, go on. 1410 01:23:05,220 --> 01:23:09,540 It's not now it's not all that big a deal. So the way it works 1411 01:23:09,540 --> 01:23:12,750 is you sit down in the press office in their little cubby 1412 01:23:12,750 --> 01:23:15,720 corner couch, so they can all listen in on the speakerphone. 1413 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,410 Make sure not saying something horrible. Then suddenly show you 1414 01:23:19,410 --> 01:23:21,180 new the new vj is great. You know, 1415 01:23:21,210 --> 01:23:24,120 so much of this was not a live in studio interview. 1416 01:23:24,150 --> 01:23:28,080 This was with the well. No TV guy or the phone TV guys a 1417 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,680 magazine. So it was Yeah, they were interviewing me about being 1418 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,060 the new vj on the scene. 1419 01:23:33,180 --> 01:23:34,470 Oh, okay. All right, going. 1420 01:23:35,159 --> 01:23:37,469 And as you know, you've been doing this for because I've been 1421 01:23:37,469 --> 01:23:41,489 working in Holland and I'd met lots of celebrities. And so what 1422 01:23:41,489 --> 01:23:44,369 do you think of Madonna? Since she's not really that nice. 1423 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,850 Well, hold on a second. Why would they ask that question out 1424 01:23:47,850 --> 01:23:48,840 of the blue? Because 1425 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,860 MTV. No, it wasn't out of the blue. It's like, Okay, you've 1426 01:23:52,860 --> 01:23:55,380 been working in the television. You've been working in music, 1427 01:23:55,380 --> 01:23:57,870 television. You've met lots of people. You've done lots of 1428 01:23:57,870 --> 01:23:58,320 interviews. 1429 01:23:58,770 --> 01:24:00,000 So what do you think of that? Madonna? 1430 01:24:00,030 --> 01:24:04,080 Yes, it's not that nice. I thought they were gonna shit a 1431 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,810 brick. And they'd like hit the mute button. 1432 01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:08,850 You can't say that. 1433 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,880 He said if you say that she read the performance the video music 1434 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,060 I want to Oh, 1435 01:24:16,110 --> 01:24:18,060 you know those handles those deals they would do? 1436 01:24:18,449 --> 01:24:21,959 Yeah, you were just you were you were being too honest. 1437 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,560 Yeah, exactly. You don't want honesty? No, no, that was 1438 01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:30,450 foolery hire to be honest. It's not your job. Long thing wrong 1439 01:24:30,450 --> 01:24:30,870 thinking 1440 01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:35,190 occurred up at talking he had nice smile a lot. Boy 1441 01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:40,859 shut up and smile a lot. Boy. Exactly. It's exactly what it 1442 01:24:40,859 --> 01:24:41,249 was. 1443 01:24:43,170 --> 01:24:46,140 Sorry, they and they hated me. They never got pressed for me 1444 01:24:46,140 --> 01:24:49,200 again after that. I was not to be trusted with press. 1445 01:24:50,730 --> 01:24:51,330 Well, 1446 01:24:52,530 --> 01:24:53,520 it was a screw up. 1447 01:24:54,210 --> 01:24:59,670 Couple. No, it was honest. Yeah. It was it was such a double 1448 01:24:59,670 --> 01:25:05,070 standard. I don't want to get into it took a funny thing about 1449 01:25:05,070 --> 01:25:12,570 the about the game. Tony Henry is I guess he's an opera singer 1450 01:25:12,570 --> 01:25:16,290 English opera singer. And he was tasked with singing the national 1451 01:25:16,290 --> 01:25:21,150 anthem. So it was it was a game was here and think Wembley. And 1452 01:25:22,170 --> 01:25:26,550 so we sang the Croatian. Is it the Croatian a crow at Croatian 1453 01:25:26,580 --> 01:25:29,880 Croatian anthem crow. Crow at? Well, anyway, 1454 01:25:30,300 --> 01:25:32,160 I'd be the Croatian anthem would have to be 1455 01:25:32,250 --> 01:25:36,810 so he made a mistake in the lyrics. In front of in front of 1456 01:25:36,810 --> 01:25:40,980 80,000 people. So here it is a BBC report. He should have sung 1457 01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,170 Mila CUDA, c planina. 1458 01:25:43,620 --> 01:25:47,160 Which roughly means you know, my dear How we love your mountains. 1459 01:25:47,790 --> 01:25:51,990 But instead he sang mila cootie see plenty now. Which can be 1460 01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:59,460 interpreted as my dear, my penis is a mountain. Wow, that's 1461 01:25:59,460 --> 01:26:08,010 great. The funny thing is that the giraffe has no natural 1462 01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:12,510 enemies. Did you notice except except of course, man, a hunter. 1463 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:19,230 The giraffe can can slice you in two. And it can actually rotate 1464 01:26:19,230 --> 01:26:23,610 its legs 360 degrees and just it literally will knock you into 1465 01:26:23,610 --> 01:26:27,900 pieces. The draft has no natural enemy, not the tiger and not the 1466 01:26:27,900 --> 01:26:31,170 leopard. Not none of that. They can they can kick the crap out 1467 01:26:31,170 --> 01:26:31,860 of anything. 1468 01:26:32,940 --> 01:26:36,630 Well, they got a lot of leverage. You know, I found this 1469 01:26:36,630 --> 01:26:41,010 out. David, tell you that story on the top half of a friend of 1470 01:26:41,010 --> 01:26:44,460 yours. I will give it in the morning for that. 1471 01:26:46,350 --> 01:26:51,090 There was a giraffe named after me at the Amsterdam zoo. They 1472 01:26:51,090 --> 01:26:55,680 noted the giraffe. The giraffe. Yes, sir. And so you know, it 1473 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,350 was like a press thing. And I was doing the radio show in 1474 01:26:58,350 --> 01:27:00,900 Holland at the time. And they're like, you know, is it pressing 1475 01:27:00,900 --> 01:27:03,060 for the zoo? And like, we'll name it, Adam. And you come and 1476 01:27:03,060 --> 01:27:05,130 take a look and take some pictures for that. I'm like, Oh, 1477 01:27:05,130 --> 01:27:09,690 that's kind of cool, you know? And so but there's Adams mom. 1478 01:27:10,260 --> 01:27:13,110 And I go right into the video. We're hanging out in the cages 1479 01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:16,050 and everything. It's outside of the zoo hours. 1480 01:27:16,170 --> 01:27:18,630 Oh, and you are gonna go pet the little guy. No, no, 1481 01:27:18,810 --> 01:27:22,170 dude, I'm in the cage. And I'm the my producers taking a 1482 01:27:22,170 --> 01:27:26,400 picture of me. And I'm standing right underneath the baby 1483 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:31,110 giraffes mother, which of course is no two storeys high. And like 1484 01:27:31,140 --> 01:27:36,300 maybe a foot away from it from its from its front legs. And I 1485 01:27:36,330 --> 01:27:39,390 look I see him with the producer taking the picture and I see the 1486 01:27:39,390 --> 01:27:49,500 zookeepers petrified. They're like, walk very slowly towards 1487 01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:58,860 us now. And I'm like, what they said, You are about to die. It's 1488 01:27:58,860 --> 01:28:02,640 a giraffe. And then they told me the whole story like you do not 1489 01:28:02,670 --> 01:28:07,590 get in with a giraffe. as cute as they are. They will kill you. 1490 01:28:10,470 --> 01:28:14,640 The day apparently the the douchebag elitist TED Talk. 1491 01:28:16,170 --> 01:28:20,430 conference, not the TEDx? No, no, the real one, the real one 1492 01:28:20,460 --> 01:28:25,410 that you paid 10 grand for is just filled with douchebags so 1493 01:28:25,410 --> 01:28:30,210 bad that women don't even want to go anymore. I mean, we're 1494 01:28:30,210 --> 01:28:35,310 talking about jump pouncing on women. cornering them, pushing 1495 01:28:35,310 --> 01:28:38,520 them up against the wall right you know, and seeing your tech 1496 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,270 people you know, rubbing their mashing their hard ons against 1497 01:28:42,270 --> 01:28:42,840 women. 1498 01:28:44,489 --> 01:28:45,089 Ah, 1499 01:28:45,810 --> 01:28:47,490 it's disgusting. 1500 01:28:47,550 --> 01:28:48,900 It's totally disgusting. 1501 01:28:48,930 --> 01:28:51,780 And you know that that's exactly the people who are doing this 1502 01:28:51,780 --> 01:28:54,330 stuff because they've lost all control of reality. I've seen 1503 01:28:54,330 --> 01:28:57,690 this. I've seen it. You've seen it. I've seen tons of it. 1504 01:28:57,810 --> 01:29:01,080 douchebags. Unbelievable. The funny one though, is Gene 1505 01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:01,770 Simmons. 1506 01:29:02,939 --> 01:29:07,379 Kind of surprises me as a Gene Simmons married to Shannon tweed 1507 01:29:07,769 --> 01:29:11,249 the camera of the year. 1508 01:29:11,279 --> 01:29:16,049 Yeah, but you see he's not being accused of anything other than 1509 01:29:16,049 --> 01:29:20,189 being incredibly douchey. And I have my own story about that. 1510 01:29:20,399 --> 01:29:25,559 Because you know, he he basically is just he's rude. I 1511 01:29:25,559 --> 01:29:30,209 guess he What are you he was in for the fox, Fox Business News 1512 01:29:30,359 --> 01:29:34,109 studios, whatever is news to me and he offended members of the 1513 01:29:34,109 --> 01:29:39,449 team. And so he upset by saying hey, chicks sue me. But here's 1514 01:29:39,449 --> 01:29:43,529 the thing. I'll tell you. This is Gene Simmons. Anyone who has 1515 01:29:43,559 --> 01:29:46,739 met Gene Simmons for five minutes knows that this guy is 1516 01:29:46,769 --> 01:29:49,919 is like this and it's funny. He used to come into the the weekly 1517 01:29:49,919 --> 01:29:54,599 music meetings at MTV. When he was producing was he producing 1518 01:29:55,589 --> 01:29:58,199 and I was producing somebody wasn't it wasn't a kiss record 1519 01:29:58,739 --> 01:30:02,759 and the time I was the only vj in the music meeting. This is 1520 01:30:02,759 --> 01:30:07,139 where the payola occurred, although I didn't see any. And 1521 01:30:07,139 --> 01:30:10,559 he comes in with knee pads on jumps up on the table says, Who 1522 01:30:10,559 --> 01:30:14,189 do I have to blow to get this thing on the air? And I was 1523 01:30:14,189 --> 01:30:18,809 like, that was Jean. Yeah. All right, man. And you know what, 1524 01:30:18,839 --> 01:30:21,839 you know, they put it in rotation. That's how it works, 1525 01:30:21,839 --> 01:30:23,279 baby. You know it. 1526 01:30:26,279 --> 01:30:29,279 So we were talking about tea before he started the recording. 1527 01:30:29,669 --> 01:30:31,949 And I was wondering if the public might be interested in 1528 01:30:31,949 --> 01:30:35,699 some of our thoughts. Since you, you said that you move ever 1529 01:30:35,699 --> 01:30:37,619 since you moved to England, you've become kind of addicted 1530 01:30:37,619 --> 01:30:38,399 to the product. 1531 01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:42,600 Yeah, well, you know, there's the Dutch when I grew up in 1532 01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,480 Holland, they drink a lot of tea, but they drink it 1533 01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:49,260 differently than the UK here is, you know, it's really it's milk 1534 01:30:49,260 --> 01:30:51,930 and sugar, whereas I never would have ever considered putting 1535 01:30:51,930 --> 01:30:56,220 milk in my tea ever, before living here. But I found out 1536 01:30:56,220 --> 01:30:59,520 that culturally, that really works for me, you know, 1537 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,430 essentially, if someone walks in the house and they've got a you 1538 01:31:02,430 --> 01:31:04,290 know, a bullet wound to the shoulder, the first thing 1539 01:31:04,290 --> 01:31:06,810 everyone says is, let's put a catalog, let's have some tea, 1540 01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:10,530 and everything will be okay. And and I just kind of fell into 1541 01:31:10,530 --> 01:31:15,330 that. And I love it. Now, I must drink at least during the day, 1542 01:31:15,330 --> 01:31:19,620 if I'm, if I'm, if I'm near, if I can make it myself, easily six 1543 01:31:19,620 --> 01:31:20,700 to 10 cups a day. 1544 01:31:21,989 --> 01:31:24,899 What's your preferred brand up PG tips, of course. 1545 01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:32,400 The NHS is such an expensive program granted the Euro, you 1546 01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:36,480 only pay $5 for no matter that is your copay for everything no 1547 01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:38,970 matter what it is for for medication, because I was in 1548 01:31:38,970 --> 01:31:44,280 this system. But I also remember right back, Christina dislocated 1549 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:48,810 her knee. And she was you know, developing woman at the time she 1550 01:31:48,810 --> 01:31:52,380 was in, you know, in high school. And, and it actually 1551 01:31:52,380 --> 01:31:57,630 happened again, and so we shoot now let's go get a scan. And 1552 01:31:57,630 --> 01:32:03,210 they said, Sure, come back in eight weeks. And I like well, 1553 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,790 but it seems kind of like no, there's a waiting list. Just 1554 01:32:05,790 --> 01:32:10,260 it's not priority and don't run in the meantime. Thanks. So I 1555 01:32:10,260 --> 01:32:13,890 took her private, I paid for it. And we walked into the same 1556 01:32:13,890 --> 01:32:17,310 place. There was no one there. They were just sitting around, 1557 01:32:17,340 --> 01:32:23,220 they took my $5,000 and did the scan the next day. So it's not a 1558 01:32:23,220 --> 01:32:26,010 very efficient system. It doesn't seem to now's 1559 01:32:26,010 --> 01:32:28,080 like a crock of crap to me now. 1560 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:33,780 So now, we had multiple experiences with NHS, an 1561 01:32:33,780 --> 01:32:37,890 emergency epic appendectomy that did get taken care of pretty 1562 01:32:37,890 --> 01:32:39,600 quickly. Well, that's 1563 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,480 a plus. But now 1564 01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:47,370 otherwise, I don't know. It seems like when you socialize 1565 01:32:47,370 --> 01:32:50,640 the medicine, the healthcare to that degree, you can get waiting 1566 01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,940 list and prioritization. It's the only way it can work. 1567 01:32:56,340 --> 01:32:58,830 Anyway, so I do have one print story. If you're interested. I 1568 01:32:58,830 --> 01:33:04,110 figured we'd share one with the no agenda audience. One, and 1569 01:33:04,110 --> 01:33:10,410 this relates to I think it was 90 9091 and I was in 1570 01:33:10,530 --> 01:33:15,000 Minneapolis, and I sent you the link for this earlier john. I 1571 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,710 was it was probably one of the only three commercials for real 1572 01:33:19,710 --> 01:33:24,720 products back in the heyday when I was Mr. MTV guy. And one of 1573 01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:28,980 them was for Sam Goody music land, which no longer exists, it 1574 01:33:28,980 --> 01:33:31,860 doesn't exist anymore. It's gone. Right? I'm pretty sure 1575 01:33:31,860 --> 01:33:35,610 it's on. Yeah. And the big our records and the biggest store is 1576 01:33:35,610 --> 01:33:38,280 at Mall of America which of course is in Minneapolis, 1577 01:33:38,370 --> 01:33:40,740 but I didn't know that was not the biggest stores in Manhattan 1578 01:33:41,159 --> 01:33:44,069 at the time. And that's you know, that's where it was going 1579 01:33:44,069 --> 01:33:47,489 to be done. The store was huge. And so put together kind of like 1580 01:33:47,489 --> 01:33:52,079 a spinal tap where I'm pretending to be on a on a tour 1581 01:33:52,079 --> 01:33:55,169 or some fantastic tour and then you know how all these 1582 01:33:55,169 --> 01:34:00,209 commercials they always have to have like a slide so you can put 1583 01:34:00,209 --> 01:34:03,599 the current offers on it and so with almost like a completely 1584 01:34:03,599 --> 01:34:05,189 different voice in the commercial you hear 1585 01:34:05,699 --> 01:34:06,239 blank 1586 01:34:07,859 --> 01:34:10,649 like the bangles willy nilly, 1587 01:34:10,890 --> 01:34:12,960 you know like all these great people on tour with but it's 1588 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:17,010 really it's the SAM Goody music land tour. Then you know, I'm 1589 01:34:17,010 --> 01:34:19,350 going around run around backstage and kind of like 1590 01:34:19,350 --> 01:34:21,660 Spinal Tap and this is the best concert I've ever been on. And 1591 01:34:21,660 --> 01:34:24,600 then I go to the stage, open the doors and then of course I open 1592 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:29,070 into the into the store. And that's the stage or something 1593 01:34:29,070 --> 01:34:32,130 and it's in the show notes and it's one of the lamest things 1594 01:34:32,130 --> 01:34:32,820 you've ever seen. 1595 01:34:33,899 --> 01:34:35,969 Fits perfectly. It paid. 1596 01:34:36,210 --> 01:34:38,940 Not very much but it was. I think it was maybe 1597 01:34:40,140 --> 01:34:40,950 it was a buyout, 1598 01:34:40,949 --> 01:34:43,079 maybe $5,000. Maybe 1599 01:34:43,830 --> 01:34:44,640 it was you know, 1600 01:34:45,090 --> 01:34:47,520 not a good deal but back in the day anyway. 1601 01:34:49,979 --> 01:34:51,239 nor their movies by the 1602 01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:55,530 way. I love fashion. I love fashion shows. I 1603 01:34:55,530 --> 01:34:57,960 told you I went to the fashion show with my wife and Amsterdam 1604 01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:58,650 on this Sunday. 1605 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,470 I had my suit on 1606 01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:06,570 with Juliet, that that suit. Yeah. Who was the designer you 1607 01:35:06,570 --> 01:35:08,340 saw? Was it just a bunch of Oh, no, no, it's just 1608 01:35:08,339 --> 01:35:11,489 it's one designer pulse filter. And Patricia works with him 1609 01:35:11,489 --> 01:35:15,269 every, every season on the show. And you know, what the model 1610 01:35:15,269 --> 01:35:18,629 should look like. And of course, I'm highly interested. Because 1611 01:35:18,659 --> 01:35:20,789 what I get to do is I get to hang around everywhere. And this 1612 01:35:20,789 --> 01:35:24,539 just naked models walking around is awesome. I'm not kidding. 1613 01:35:24,599 --> 01:35:27,389 Anybody. Yeah, it's not like they're posing, but they're all 1614 01:35:27,389 --> 01:35:30,509 really tall. And, and so I said, you know, excuse me, I just got 1615 01:35:30,509 --> 01:35:32,789 to hug you for a second. I know, you're feeling the same way. 1616 01:35:32,789 --> 01:35:35,999 Because you know, we talk to each other. And I always get it, 1617 01:35:35,999 --> 01:35:40,019 you know, I always get hug. It's great. But I really screwed I 1618 01:35:40,019 --> 01:35:43,259 really screwed up this time. Because my favorite favorite 1619 01:35:43,259 --> 01:35:47,159 model of all time, who always watched the pulse filter show 1620 01:35:47,159 --> 01:35:50,699 and it because all the mega superstars are big buyers or 1621 01:35:50,699 --> 01:35:53,819 celebrities. And of course, we're none of the above. They 1622 01:35:53,819 --> 01:35:56,429 get they sit right in the middle of the front row at the on the 1623 01:35:56,429 --> 01:35:59,759 runway. And so we're actually in an even better spot. That's like 1624 01:35:59,759 --> 01:36:02,609 two spots to the right. That's where the models make their 1625 01:36:02,609 --> 01:36:05,729 turns. They make their turn right in front of us. And she 1626 01:36:05,729 --> 01:36:08,579 always gives me john, I'm not kidding. She gives me the most 1627 01:36:08,579 --> 01:36:12,299 wicked look. I just like you know, it's like a fantasy. And 1628 01:36:12,299 --> 01:36:14,879 it's a game because you know, my wife and I laugh about it all 1629 01:36:14,879 --> 01:36:17,819 the time. Let's see if she gives you the look. Anyway, she after 1630 01:36:17,819 --> 01:36:19,379 the show. She's upstairs and she's, 1631 01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:21,270 you know, she's D. 1632 01:36:22,529 --> 01:36:24,959 Just taking everything off, essentially, you know, all of 1633 01:36:24,959 --> 01:36:28,769 our model stuff. And I said, Oh, you know, when's the divorce cuz 1634 01:36:28,859 --> 01:36:33,749 my dream has to finally come through. And she says, March 13 1635 01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:34,440 How did you know? 1636 01:36:37,590 --> 01:36:40,740 Oops. I felt so shitty. 1637 01:36:45,060 --> 01:36:46,470 So we took her out together. I 1638 01:36:46,470 --> 01:36:48,030 feel worse when she starts calling. 1639 01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:49,440 Dude. 1640 01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:52,560 Not a problem. 1641 01:36:53,699 --> 01:36:54,209 I 1642 01:36:54,210 --> 01:36:56,730 said it right. I said it's okay. My wife is okay with it. We can 1643 01:36:56,730 --> 01:36:59,220 have an affair. It's not a problem. Patricia sitting right 1644 01:36:59,220 --> 01:36:59,610 next door. 1645 01:36:59,609 --> 01:37:00,179 I was funny. 1646 01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:08,190 The Benigno Boris Johnson, our new mayor is his ban as of June 1647 01:37:08,190 --> 01:37:11,880 1, this is going to be funny. He's banning open containers of 1648 01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:18,390 alcohol on public transport. Good fucking luck. I can just 1649 01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:21,450 see the poor train conductor trying to take it you can do a 1650 01:37:21,450 --> 01:37:25,710 lot of things. But taking a beer away from an inebriated Brit is 1651 01:37:25,740 --> 01:37:28,170 just not one of the things you want to have high on your list 1652 01:37:28,170 --> 01:37:28,680 to do. 1653 01:37:29,189 --> 01:37:30,539 Right, especially if he's Irish. 1654 01:37:31,260 --> 01:37:35,280 Thank you. Because I sit in first class on the train home 1655 01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:39,000 you know, like at 530 or six o'clock and man can people have 1656 01:37:39,030 --> 01:37:42,960 toasted toasted in first class? Yeah, well, they don't have 1657 01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,780 first class tickets, but they just come in you know, bargain. 1658 01:37:46,230 --> 01:37:48,750 And you know, and everyone just ignores them, right? No One No 1659 01:37:48,750 --> 01:37:50,970 one says anything. And they're like burping and shouting and 1660 01:37:50,970 --> 01:37:54,240 farting all over the place. And the conductor comes by and that 1661 01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,490 thing he's like, he takes one Look at him go like I'm gonna 1662 01:37:56,490 --> 01:37:59,460 fucking deal with these bozos. You know, hey, you shouldn't be 1663 01:37:59,460 --> 01:38:02,520 you shouldn't be here, gentlemen. Yeah, right. Now, 1664 01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:06,000 man, and wait and wait until we get some Liverpool fans on this 1665 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:11,880 rain. Yeah, that'll be fun. But your beard on son? David, tell 1666 01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:15,270 you story when I flew to LA with Sean Penn. No. 1667 01:38:16,319 --> 01:38:18,869 So we're open for anecdotes on this. Yes. 1668 01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:23,520 This is back in the MTV days. Yeah, probably 8889. And there 1669 01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:28,650 was a fabulous, fabulous flight between New York and Los Angeles 1670 01:38:28,650 --> 01:38:30,990 and Los Angeles in New York. That's all it did twice a day, 1671 01:38:31,230 --> 01:38:32,850 called MGM Grand air. 1672 01:38:33,359 --> 01:38:33,869 Oh, yes. 1673 01:38:33,870 --> 01:38:39,240 That was an interesting plane. MGM Grand air was a 727 or 737 1674 01:38:39,300 --> 01:38:39,600 was a 1675 01:38:40,050 --> 01:38:43,020 was a toy. It was longer play. It was a toy. It was either a 27 1676 01:38:43,020 --> 01:38:43,710 is 27. 1677 01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:47,220 And you could only I think it was like 50 passengers. Of 1678 01:38:47,220 --> 01:38:49,770 course, MTV, you know, paid for this because they needed to get 1679 01:38:49,770 --> 01:38:51,990 me out there. It wasn't that much more expensive than a 1680 01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:56,460 regular ticket actually. And so it had a bar. It was all 1681 01:38:56,460 --> 01:38:59,820 captain's chairs. And then state rooms are like four or five 1682 01:38:59,820 --> 01:39:03,060 state rooms. We could sit three people on each side a table 1683 01:39:03,060 --> 01:39:05,430 could come up so you could eat the doors could close now I've 1684 01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:06,600 been in those ones before, 1685 01:39:06,630 --> 01:39:07,650 like a train like 1686 01:39:07,649 --> 01:39:10,289 a train. I've been in those ones before by myself. And it was 1687 01:39:10,289 --> 01:39:12,779 fantastic. I had this you know, because you can move the two 1688 01:39:12,779 --> 01:39:15,749 benches together. You have a huge double bed. It was great. 1689 01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:20,849 But this one time I'm in there with Sean Penn in the state room 1690 01:39:20,909 --> 01:39:25,619 with his brother, the one who died. And then Sean Penn's mom. 1691 01:39:26,189 --> 01:39:29,909 And it was weird. You know, because first of all, his 1692 01:39:29,909 --> 01:39:33,419 brother was his brother's name. I don't remember him. He was 1693 01:39:33,419 --> 01:39:37,409 drinking beer out of the can take his shirt off in the plane. 1694 01:39:38,549 --> 01:39:42,299 This is bare chested there. Isn't I mean, the mom was very 1695 01:39:42,299 --> 01:39:47,969 quiet and it was really odd. like Hey, how you doing? Hey, 1696 01:39:47,969 --> 01:39:50,639 you're the guy from VH one aren't you? Oh my God. Jesus. 1697 01:39:51,540 --> 01:39:55,290 VH one really hard. It must have been the greatest. Yeah, your 1698 01:39:55,290 --> 01:39:56,280 life. Yes. I 1699 01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,400 said yeah, that's me. Hey, what was it like being married to 1700 01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:04,080 Madonna? If you don't mind me asking, he said, hell hath no 1701 01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:04,710 fury. 1702 01:40:05,759 --> 01:40:07,559 Then Then we pretty much just looked at each other for the 1703 01:40:07,559 --> 01:40:11,039 rest of the rest of the flight. Very, very bizarre. 1704 01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:16,110 I went in I went to the North Pole once Have you ever been to 1705 01:40:16,110 --> 01:40:16,800 the North Pole? 1706 01:40:17,189 --> 01:40:19,259 You're kidding me. You went to the North Pole. 1707 01:40:19,290 --> 01:40:21,150 Yes. Would you like to hear the story? 1708 01:40:21,989 --> 01:40:24,509 Wow. Yeah, that's impressive is no I have not 1709 01:40:24,510 --> 01:40:29,190 been to the North Pole. Oh, this was with onramp before we before 1710 01:40:29,190 --> 01:40:32,010 we took it public and change the name to think new ideas. Ron and 1711 01:40:32,010 --> 01:40:35,880 I were running the company and we had a client Molson nice. And 1712 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:40,530 when and that was a promotion. That we that we were we did it 1713 01:40:40,530 --> 01:40:43,260 with the agent with another agency we came up with called 1714 01:40:43,260 --> 01:40:47,460 the Molson ice polar beach party. And it was a contest and 1715 01:40:47,460 --> 01:40:51,450 it was 100 winners. And it would be it was a cool is a cool MTV 1716 01:40:51,450 --> 01:40:53,940 like contest, actually, 100 winners would go to the North 1717 01:40:53,940 --> 01:41:01,560 Pole for concert with Metallica actually was Metallica hole. So 1718 01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:07,110 Courtney Love, and one other band I can't remember. And we 1719 01:41:07,110 --> 01:41:09,330 and we did a cyber cast from the North Pole. And was pretty 1720 01:41:09,330 --> 01:41:11,670 interesting, because, you know, we the only way to do it is we 1721 01:41:11,670 --> 01:41:15,450 took a multiplexer. So we could take 24 phone lines, and 1722 01:41:15,450 --> 01:41:19,830 basically convert that into like, you know, 150 kilobits per 1723 01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:22,710 second or whatever. And we had that linked all the way down 1724 01:41:22,710 --> 01:41:27,900 from top to jacc talk, which is Northwestern territory. So and 1725 01:41:27,930 --> 01:41:32,010 you know, literally, like, you know, a couple miles inside the 1726 01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:33,120 Arctic Circle there. 1727 01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,410 Well, let's get back to the How did you get to the North Pole? 1728 01:41:37,590 --> 01:41:37,950 Ah, 1729 01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:42,090 well, it's a combination of many, many flights. And the last 1730 01:41:42,090 --> 01:41:46,560 one is basically an otter. So an otter is one of those airplanes 1731 01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:50,340 with the huge the huge inflated tires. And it's a it's a real 1732 01:41:50,340 --> 01:41:53,310 workhorse and it just it, you know, you can sit in it and kind 1733 01:41:53,310 --> 01:41:55,860 of like jump seats, but it's really meant for taking cargo. 1734 01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,570 And, yeah, so you basically land up on the ice near drilling 1735 01:42:00,570 --> 01:42:05,010 platform up there. And, and so it not being the dark period, it 1736 01:42:05,010 --> 01:42:08,520 was light for 24 hours straight, which was really, really weird. 1737 01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:13,620 And, of course, you're up there, you know, we had our crew, and 1738 01:42:13,890 --> 01:42:16,140 we were sleeping in the oil barracks, 1739 01:42:16,170 --> 01:42:16,740 if you will. 1740 01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:21,930 And you as as metallic as as everybody. And so you know, 1741 01:42:21,930 --> 01:42:25,530 we're looking at there's nothing to do, obviously. And so we live 1742 01:42:25,530 --> 01:42:28,560 in and it's dry, right? There's no alcohol is forbidden, but you 1743 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,290 know, we figure we can probably figure something out. So we go 1744 01:42:31,290 --> 01:42:34,140 outside, and it's midnight, but you know, kids are riding around 1745 01:42:34,140 --> 01:42:38,070 on their bikes, and it's as if it were mid day. And some of the 1746 01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:40,470 kids come over and we're, you know, say hey, 1747 01:42:42,689 --> 01:42:45,899 let's back up a minute. There's a bunch of people at the North 1748 01:42:45,899 --> 01:42:46,409 Pole. 1749 01:42:46,620 --> 01:42:50,220 Well, it's not exactly on the North Pole, North Pole. But you 1750 01:42:50,220 --> 01:42:55,950 know, within I don't know, what is it? 50 miles? 75 miles? Yeah. 1751 01:42:56,370 --> 01:42:57,660 There's all kinds of villages. 1752 01:43:02,159 --> 01:43:03,569 thought it was pretty barren up there. 1753 01:43:04,170 --> 01:43:05,610 It was pretty barren up there. 1754 01:43:06,810 --> 01:43:07,560 Oh, okay. 1755 01:43:08,490 --> 01:43:11,910 No kidding. You know, the next town was several 100 miles. And 1756 01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:12,510 that was 1757 01:43:13,649 --> 01:43:14,429 a new Vic, 1758 01:43:14,610 --> 01:43:15,810 I think is what it was called. 1759 01:43:17,250 --> 01:43:17,790 Anyway, 1760 01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:22,230 I need to give a little background, my own personal 1761 01:43:22,230 --> 01:43:29,010 background in 1990 to 2005. We started pod show, and this was 1762 01:43:29,010 --> 01:43:31,380 with venture capital money, something I'll never do again. 1763 01:43:31,380 --> 01:43:35,040 But it was fun. With Kleiner Perkins and Kleiner Perkins. 1764 01:43:35,070 --> 01:43:40,500 They had a CEO weekend. And we all went to Pebble Beach. Which 1765 01:43:40,500 --> 01:43:44,520 was really, really a horrible weekend for me. Because of 1766 01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,650 course what everyone does at Pebble Beach is let's go 1767 01:43:46,650 --> 01:43:47,250 golfing. 1768 01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:48,450 Of course 1769 01:43:48,510 --> 01:43:52,740 Yeah. Well guess what? I can no go I don't golf. But they and 1770 01:43:52,770 --> 01:43:55,320 Ray lane that one of the general partner said, Hey, I got you 1771 01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:58,950 some shoes. You're coming with us. And that evening, during 1772 01:43:59,070 --> 01:44:01,200 that evening during the final 1773 01:44:01,229 --> 01:44:04,169 reading, by the way, you don't really need spike shoes to golf. 1774 01:44:04,980 --> 01:44:07,020 Well, I still have them though. I have golfing shoes. 1775 01:44:07,409 --> 01:44:07,979 Yeah. Okay. 1776 01:44:08,609 --> 01:44:12,689 So we're wrapping this all and this is this the CEOs from every 1777 01:44:12,689 --> 01:44:16,169 big Kleiner Perkins company you can imagine, right up to the 1778 01:44:16,169 --> 01:44:19,859 Google boys. And then all of a sudden and we have a special 1779 01:44:19,859 --> 01:44:24,539 award for Adam Curry. And I'm and I'm getting up out of my 1780 01:44:24,539 --> 01:44:28,439 seat. I'm like, wow, I got an award for the most strokes ever 1781 01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:32,519 at this golf course. He was the meanest thing anyone's ever done 1782 01:44:32,519 --> 01:44:32,909 to me. 1783 01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:34,110 It's cute. 1784 01:44:34,140 --> 01:44:40,800 Every all of Silicon Valley was laughing at me. But at this get 1785 01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:41,460 together I see 1786 01:44:41,460 --> 01:44:45,120 you You got humiliated. Yes, I did. You were the butt of a 1787 01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:45,840 joke. Yeah, 1788 01:44:46,050 --> 01:44:50,130 well, it's lamp All I did is I got I got super bucks. Whoa you 1789 01:44:50,130 --> 01:44:50,580 got 1790 01:44:54,330 --> 01:44:57,150 but it was fun. You make fun of the of the MTV guy would make 1791 01:44:57,150 --> 01:45:00,840 fun of the guy with Tourette's. Okay, thanks. I can't play golf 1792 01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:02,880 because I have Tourette's. All right, the cat is out of the 1793 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,600 bag. I should have had my T shirt on. I have a new t shirt 1794 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:10,020 I'm working on. Okay, Tourette's. It's what makes us 1795 01:45:10,020 --> 01:45:10,470 tick. 1796 01:45:12,239 --> 01:45:14,939 That's very cute. I think somebody else wrote that line. 1797 01:45:14,999 --> 01:45:15,449 Of course, 1798 01:45:15,449 --> 01:45:16,379 I think I wrote that. 1799 01:45:18,779 --> 01:45:21,119 That's the one thing that bothered me. You know, I 1800 01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:26,490 did this and it's still not on. What's the what's the TV? I'm 1801 01:45:26,490 --> 01:45:29,400 blanking out? Yeah, I did a Swamp Thing. I did an episode of 1802 01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:34,110 Swamp Thing. Hulu, right. And it so that episode is still not 1803 01:45:34,110 --> 01:45:36,780 it's it's a series previous to the series that they have on 1804 01:45:36,780 --> 01:45:39,630 there. Now, it's still not on Hulu. It's like one YouTube clip 1805 01:45:39,630 --> 01:45:42,870 of one brief little scene but was a half hour show. And it was 1806 01:45:42,900 --> 01:45:47,250 it was great. You know, who also was in it, Rick? Rick monetti 1807 01:45:47,250 --> 01:45:50,310 mulready monetti, who played Ric Magnum P. I mean, this is the 1808 01:45:50,310 --> 01:45:53,220 level of acting talent that was on this episode. And just 1809 01:45:53,220 --> 01:45:57,870 powerhouse stuff. And I'll never get over that in the script. And 1810 01:45:57,870 --> 01:46:01,380 of course, I wanted to change it. But you know, had no say in 1811 01:46:01,380 --> 01:46:05,460 the matter. That this rock and roll guy Nathan, this rock star 1812 01:46:05,460 --> 01:46:08,910 who's strung out on drugs actually uses the word blato. 1813 01:46:09,300 --> 01:46:09,690 Like, 1814 01:46:10,949 --> 01:46:12,539 this is so wrong. Yeah. And 1815 01:46:12,540 --> 01:46:14,730 you can see me you can see me though. 1816 01:46:16,500 --> 01:46:18,360 Like, how about big wasted 1817 01:46:20,250 --> 01:46:23,970 I couldn't get stoned is a lot of Blotto. 1818 01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:27,930 That's, I was Blotto man, like, no, no one ever say that in 1819 01:46:27,930 --> 01:46:31,560 their right mind. It totally ruins the whole episode. Huh? 1820 01:46:32,190 --> 01:46:32,910 But anyway, yeah, 1821 01:46:32,939 --> 01:46:34,469 played that character. And you had to say it. 1822 01:46:34,590 --> 01:46:38,640 Yeah. And I did. And I think I made it work. I made it my you 1823 01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:43,860 actually use the word blato in an acting piece of art. Uh huh. 1824 01:46:45,029 --> 01:46:45,719 It's worth it. 1825 01:46:45,780 --> 01:46:49,440 I Hulu, ar Hulu Go Go make that happened. Put that shit up. 1826 01:46:51,960 --> 01:47:00,600 I raced in a geo. Did you know Yes. MTV. We follow the the Indy 1827 01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:04,380 circuit one year. And it was one year they had the race in 1828 01:47:04,380 --> 01:47:08,100 Denver, the street race in Denver. And they had the 1829 01:47:08,100 --> 01:47:10,830 celebrity race. And it 1830 01:47:10,829 --> 01:47:15,149 wasn't a Grand Prix or IndyCar Grand Prix style. Well, it is on 1831 01:47:15,149 --> 01:47:17,009 the streets. It would be Grand Prix more than 1832 01:47:17,220 --> 01:47:20,250 well, Indy. Well, it was the cars or whatever. It was the 1833 01:47:20,250 --> 01:47:21,150 same cars. 1834 01:47:21,359 --> 01:47:23,789 Yeah. For you, you had a geo. 1835 01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:24,480 Yeah. 1836 01:47:24,899 --> 01:47:28,529 So this was like the guy, the drummer from white lion Johnny 1837 01:47:28,529 --> 01:47:32,969 Gill, you know? I'm sure one of the motley crew guys was there. 1838 01:47:33,269 --> 01:47:35,699 And I had the in car camera. I got to find that footage. 1839 01:47:35,759 --> 01:47:37,949 Because I of course, I went around the corner and crashed 1840 01:47:37,949 --> 01:47:41,939 into the wall and kept going. You did? Yeah. The stick shift 1841 01:47:41,939 --> 01:47:45,629 had come up about two feet. But otherwise it's still drove. But 1842 01:47:45,629 --> 01:47:48,329 the commentary because when you're in the car and you 1843 01:47:48,329 --> 01:47:50,759 skidding around, you hit the wall and you bounce off each 1844 01:47:50,759 --> 01:47:54,299 other. It feels like Wow, man, this was a spectacular thing. 1845 01:47:54,299 --> 01:47:58,109 You see the footage on TV. And the commentator is literally 1846 01:47:58,109 --> 01:48:01,439 like, what does it do? They go you know how slow it looks then 1847 01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:05,849 like what it looks like. I'm a grandma who's lost control. And 1848 01:48:05,849 --> 01:48:08,669 the guys who are gonna call the official race like, oh, there's 1849 01:48:08,669 --> 01:48:12,929 Adam Curry from MTV. Oh, okay. Yeah. Like one of those like, 1850 01:48:13,049 --> 01:48:17,189 Dude can't even hold on to the we'll go Oh, my god story. 1851 01:48:17,309 --> 01:48:17,849 There you go. 1852 01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:24,660 Yeah, now I know what stories to tell. 1853 01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:28,110 I know. I know why Tina married me. Like, he's fascinating. 1854 01:48:29,580 --> 01:48:32,220 You You know why she married you because she hasn't heard these 1855 01:48:32,220 --> 01:48:33,420 stories until now. 1856 01:48:34,409 --> 01:48:37,649 Why Believe me, I've taken her on vacation. So she never has to 1857 01:48:37,649 --> 01:48:40,859 hear these. That's the whole point. Good move. Play those 1858 01:48:40,859 --> 01:48:43,109 stories when we're not connected. That's much but don't 1859 01:48:43,109 --> 01:48:46,079 worry, babies. Just old stuff you don't need to hear. You've 1860 01:48:46,079 --> 01:48:46,259 heard 1861 01:48:46,260 --> 01:48:49,350 it all. It's already been on the show once. 1862 01:48:50,069 --> 01:48:53,039 syrup and waffles. Thank you very much for producing this 1863 01:48:53,039 --> 01:48:56,039 episode really enjoyed that a lot of work went into it and is 1864 01:48:56,039 --> 01:48:59,819 highly appreciated. And I'm looking forward to coming back. 1865 01:48:59,819 --> 01:49:03,359 I'm already How sick is this? I'm ready. I'm ready to come 1866 01:49:03,359 --> 01:49:09,629 back and kick some ass and get going with 1338. All right, 1867 01:49:09,629 --> 01:49:09,869 well, 1868 01:49:10,170 --> 01:49:14,100 I'm ready to so we'll be back for 1338 1869 01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:16,440 I'll step aside for the enthusiasm. 1870 01:49:18,569 --> 01:49:19,199 Sorry. 1871 01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:20,790 That's okay. A lot. 1872 01:49:21,210 --> 01:49:24,510 It's been a long 15 months is what it's been. Thank you all 1873 01:49:24,510 --> 01:49:30,840 everybody for producing this show. 1337 episodes long. I look 1874 01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,780 forward to the next one. We will see you then. Until then, 1875 01:49:33,930 --> 01:49:37,290 remember us@dvorak.org slash na in the morning everybody. 1876 01:49:37,290 --> 01:49:38,100 I'm Adam Curry. 1877 01:49:38,580 --> 01:49:40,320 from Northern Silicon Valley. i'm john C. 1878 01:49:40,319 --> 01:49:43,919 Dvorak. We return for the next show right here on no agenda. 1879 01:49:43,919 --> 01:49:50,219 Until then adios mofos such.org slash