1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,550 Adam Curry John C Dvorak April 8 2021 this is your award winning 2 00:00:05,550 --> 00:00:09,600 game on nation media assassination Episode 1336. This 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:15,840 is no agenda. ghosting y'all and broadcasting live from 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,780 opportunity's own 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas 5 00:00:18,780 --> 00:00:21,780 capital of the drone Star State in the morning, everybody. I'm 6 00:00:21,780 --> 00:00:26,130 Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's 7 00:00:26,130 --> 00:00:30,150 business as usual for everyone around here. I'm john C. Dvorak. 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:37,500 Greg line buzzkill. Pass the pina colada live to tape. This 9 00:00:37,500 --> 00:00:43,200 is our first vacation in I think it's 15 months. Because we had 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,270 Yeah, we had we had Christmas, Christmas time off during 11 00:00:48,270 --> 00:00:52,200 Christmas? I don't think so. So it's even longer than that. We 12 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,960 didn't take any time off when we haven't taken a single show off 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,910 or maybe longer that way. I don't want to complain or 14 00:00:56,910 --> 00:01:02,040 anything but no, I mean, we can do it. But it's like, anyway, 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,160 remember taking Thanksgiving or Christmas off? We usually and I 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,470 think we bragged about working because it was the they were off 17 00:01:07,470 --> 00:01:09,990 the days they weren't like Christmas landed on a Sunday or 18 00:01:09,990 --> 00:01:13,290 anything new right? Well, typically we both typically 19 00:01:13,290 --> 00:01:17,520 whenever I'm traveling or even on vacations or my honeymoon, we 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,450 still done the show. Yes. But it's not that. Yeah, we really 21 00:01:21,450 --> 00:01:25,290 needed a little little break just to unplug, and it might 22 00:01:25,290 --> 00:01:29,550 request a rare never done before two shows. I don't think we've 23 00:01:29,550 --> 00:01:31,590 been around. Now I don't think we've ever done two shows in a 24 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:36,780 row that we haven't been here. Maybe, maybe not. So all we're 25 00:01:36,780 --> 00:01:40,680 doing is just praying Joe Biden stays alive until we come back. 26 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:43,800 Even if he doesn't, I mean, it makes him but it would just be 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,120 pent up demand for us. 28 00:01:46,590 --> 00:01:48,090 We don't have to jump back and do 29 00:01:51,660 --> 00:01:54,210 emergency broadcast quick, john, help us we don't know what to 30 00:01:54,210 --> 00:01:57,000 do. We had a bunch of members that did happen to us a couple 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,880 of times in the past. Yeah, several times to do a show do a 32 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,090 show because they just did this in the Can't wait a couple of 33 00:02:03,090 --> 00:02:06,990 days for us to actually organize information. No, What's the 34 00:02:06,990 --> 00:02:10,890 rush? Because that's what everyone does. Now we jump on it 35 00:02:10,890 --> 00:02:14,010 and we just talk some crap. And this is an outrage. Steven 36 00:02:14,010 --> 00:02:17,100 Crowder, got d platformed. Blah, blah, blah, blah. 37 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,800 That's all I hear all day. Hey, so you worked. You worked. You 38 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:28,110 worked hard on this together and doing a show? I bet it did. So 39 00:02:28,110 --> 00:02:31,800 this is how long is this special? little over two hours? 40 00:02:31,980 --> 00:02:37,410 Wow. And it's it's all clips. It's a clip show real clips. So 41 00:02:37,410 --> 00:02:40,890 it doesn't include us at all? No, I you know, I first I was 42 00:02:40,890 --> 00:02:42,930 gonna include some of our commentary because there's a lot 43 00:02:42,930 --> 00:02:46,560 of good stuff that we say. But then it as it develops, 44 00:02:46,590 --> 00:02:49,470 especially in the first half, which you'll hear or right after 45 00:02:49,470 --> 00:02:54,060 this. It just sang by itself it was the soloist I didn't really 46 00:02:54,060 --> 00:02:58,080 need to put us in it because it told a story just clip clip clip 47 00:02:58,620 --> 00:03:02,580 and so I didn't even try to find anything for us after the first 48 00:03:02,580 --> 00:03:05,700 hour I said well this is working too well I'm not gonna I don't 49 00:03:05,700 --> 00:03:09,780 need to put us in there now I'm curious how you make extremely 50 00:03:09,780 --> 00:03:13,830 entertaining I'm curious how you made it because I know that I 51 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:19,350 gave you my my is my date database which is date organized 52 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:23,850 year month day a year month show Yeah. So how did you did you go 53 00:03:23,850 --> 00:03:27,120 in chronological order What did you do No, no I do it it 54 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,310 actually is kind of in chronological order but 55 00:03:29,310 --> 00:03:32,610 everything but what I did is I use that search engine you like 56 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:36,750 every everything search engines and everything yeah, it's quite 57 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:41,910 good. And so I first I searched on the big database including 58 00:03:41,910 --> 00:03:45,420 stuff I have had more recent stuff and using everything and 59 00:03:45,420 --> 00:03:49,680 it all cropped up and I had like the fun was the first I think it 60 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,520 was the first hour more than an hour is just worth Global's are 61 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,370 gonna say you just search for global warming and you got that 62 00:03:56,370 --> 00:04:01,320 Oh, I'll bet then I had to deny did change gears and got another 63 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,620 hour or more out of climate change and tried green New Deal. 64 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,470 I think I did a I did a couple of searches on two things I 65 00:04:07,470 --> 00:04:10,710 think green new deal but it wasn't as productive Believe me. 66 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:14,850 Hmm, interesting. And coral I need to get the clip in there 67 00:04:14,850 --> 00:04:19,350 for the coral expert that says that the barrier reef is not a 68 00:04:19,350 --> 00:04:23,160 mess at all. Oh, right. Yeah. In fact, they they turn on some 69 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,330 underwater speakers and everything grew back. Someone 70 00:04:27,330 --> 00:04:30,630 thought I was doing a podcast somewhere like Oh, that makes 71 00:04:30,630 --> 00:04:33,930 total sense. So it didn't all die. It just needed some rock 72 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:38,220 and roll. Now he didn't dice thriving according to the 73 00:04:38,220 --> 00:04:41,460 expert, the number one world expert on the Great Barrier 74 00:04:41,460 --> 00:04:44,880 Reef, but that's but anyway this other stuff in there. There's a 75 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,760 lot of it's just fun to list because there's so much 76 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,400 contradictory information you can tell there's two things you 77 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,620 notice. One is that the the warmest as we'll call them, all 78 00:04:55,620 --> 00:05:00,720 sound nuts and hysterical. Okay, yeah, nothing new there. And the 79 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,570 people that say, well that's not true because all the normal 80 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,030 everyone else sounds normal that people who are saying, well, 81 00:05:06,030 --> 00:05:08,400 that's questionable and, you know, that needs to be looked 82 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,300 into and this isn't true is is a lie. They all sound normal. And 83 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:14,340 then the other people sound hysterical. It's just like, 84 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,360 after two hours of listening to this, you realize that one sides 85 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,570 a little more probably on the ball than the other. I think. 86 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:28,260 How far back does this go? Does this go back? What 10 years? It 87 00:05:28,260 --> 00:05:31,620 goes back to the first clips that we had. Wow, it goes back a 88 00:05:31,620 --> 00:05:34,350 long way. Oh, no, I love it. I love it. I don't think I don't 89 00:05:34,350 --> 00:05:37,350 know if it's 10 years but it goes way back. Betting Belize 90 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:40,980 nine. I'm very excited. Well, good. Well, let's start it off. 91 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,690 Scientists have reported 2015 was the hottest year on record 92 00:05:48,690 --> 00:05:52,920 by far, the experts pin the record breaking heat on long 93 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,400 term global warming caused by the emission of greenhouse 94 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:01,860 gases. 2015 record breaks the previous record set the year 95 00:06:01,860 --> 00:06:06,570 before and 2014. In response to the findings, Gerald Mele, a 96 00:06:06,570 --> 00:06:10,170 scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research said 97 00:06:10,170 --> 00:06:14,340 quote, the whole system is warming up relentlessly. 98 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,190 What is it? Maybe it's me, I don't know. And climate change, 99 00:06:17,190 --> 00:06:19,680 scientists are taking their global warming threats to a 100 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,310 whole new level Outer Space reach. Researchers at Penn State 101 00:06:23,370 --> 00:06:27,090 actually laid out a number of scenarios as to why aliens may 102 00:06:27,090 --> 00:06:30,360 someday attack Earth and one of them is because humans are 103 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,540 spewing way too much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. 104 00:06:33,750 --> 00:06:36,360 They speculate that extraterrestrials may be so 105 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,840 angered by greenhouse gases. They could quote, kill us, 106 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:44,910 enslave us or potentially eat us. Both al gore and Joe Paterno 107 00:06:44,910 --> 00:06:47,820 have remained silent on these new theories. So I wonder if the 108 00:06:47,820 --> 00:06:50,040 faculty and students there at Penn State ever looked into the 109 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,900 works of Edmond north. It 110 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:58,050 was reported today that this weekend, for the first time in 111 00:06:58,050 --> 00:07:04,290 human history, we have reached atmospheric levels of carbon at 112 00:07:04,290 --> 00:07:10,950 415 parts per million. This has never been seen in recorded 113 00:07:10,950 --> 00:07:15,930 human history. In fact, meteorologist Eric hole thoughts 114 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,220 and journalists said simply about this measurement and 115 00:07:20,220 --> 00:07:28,350 development. We do not know a planet like this. The last time 116 00:07:28,350 --> 00:07:33,720 our planet hit for 15. Within the Paleocene period. Oceans 117 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:39,360 were 90 feet higher. bacteria and diseases we have never seen 118 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,210 before roamed the earth. 119 00:07:42,750 --> 00:07:46,260 Across the globe. The weather picture is one of fire and ice 120 00:07:46,290 --> 00:07:50,370 bone numbing record cold in the Midwest, fire and record heat 121 00:07:50,370 --> 00:07:54,780 and Australia 120 degrees and hotter this month. What that 122 00:07:54,780 --> 00:07:58,410 really means is that fires will be uncontrollable, there'll be 123 00:07:58,410 --> 00:08:02,610 fast moving and yo yo weather cycles after the deep freeze in 124 00:08:02,610 --> 00:08:07,080 the US a 50 degree rebound in some cities within days. Hard to 125 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,650 believe when you're frozen like an icicle. But experts say that 126 00:08:10,650 --> 00:08:14,820 arctic blast is in fact further evidence of climate change. And 127 00:08:14,820 --> 00:08:17,970 response to President Trump's skepticism. The weather experts 128 00:08:17,970 --> 00:08:21,810 at NOAA tweeting winter storms don't prove that global warming 129 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,590 isn't happening. Here's why. at the North Pole, scientists say 130 00:08:25,590 --> 00:08:28,740 the melting sea ice and ocean temperatures have caused the 131 00:08:28,740 --> 00:08:33,330 walls of the Jetstream or polar vortex to break open like a dam 132 00:08:33,330 --> 00:08:37,440 in places that has allowed arctic air to escape. Rushing 133 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,580 south into the Midwest. Not only is greenhouse gas warming, 134 00:08:42,390 --> 00:08:46,140 impacting the planet, but it's really beginning to kick in. And 135 00:08:46,140 --> 00:08:48,390 it's kicking in and the parts of the planet that are most 136 00:08:48,390 --> 00:08:52,980 sensitive, in particular Arctic sea ice regions and the Arctic. 137 00:08:53,010 --> 00:08:55,980 So let's leave them something to think about as they go home. Let 138 00:08:55,980 --> 00:08:59,310 them go home and say Mr. Soros said here are three things we 139 00:08:59,310 --> 00:09:00,930 can do simply one, 140 00:09:02,460 --> 00:09:06,840 work on a better world order, where we work together to 141 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,730 resolve problems that confront humanity like global warming. 142 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:17,700 And I think I think that dealing with global warming will require 143 00:09:18,090 --> 00:09:23,820 a lot of investment. You see, for the last 25 years, the world 144 00:09:23,820 --> 00:09:28,200 economy, the motor of the world economy that has been driving it 145 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:32,970 was consumption by the American consumer who has been spending 146 00:09:32,970 --> 00:09:35,580 more than his been saving, right. 147 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:43,140 And he's been producing. So that motor is now switched off. It's 148 00:09:43,140 --> 00:09:44,850 finished, it's run out of 149 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:51,420 can't continue. You need a new motor. And we have a big problem 150 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:57,300 of global warming requires big investment. And that could be 151 00:09:57,300 --> 00:10:02,430 the motor of the vertical anami in the years to come to remember 152 00:10:02,430 --> 00:10:05,490 in building infrastructure, converting to green technology 153 00:10:05,490 --> 00:10:06,810 instead of consuming 154 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:14,130 building electricity grid and saving on energy or rewiring the 155 00:10:14,130 --> 00:10:20,130 houses, adjusting your lifestyle, where energy is, it's 156 00:10:20,130 --> 00:10:25,530 got to cost more, until you introduce those new things. So 157 00:10:25,710 --> 00:10:30,090 it will be painful, but at least we will survive and not cook. 158 00:10:30,870 --> 00:10:33,810 And there was a Gallup poll in this country a few weeks ago 159 00:10:33,810 --> 00:10:34,890 that said, despite 160 00:10:34,890 --> 00:10:39,240 rising temperatures, and all of this strange weather we've been 161 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,360 having the percentage of Americans who care a great deal 162 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,490 about global warming has been dropping from 41%, six years ago 163 00:10:47,490 --> 00:10:51,990 to 34%. Today, what is it about human nature that wants to 164 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:57,030 believe the worst can happen? i? I don't know. I don't know. 165 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:02,130 Well, this was also the day that government scientists said 14 of 166 00:11:02,130 --> 00:11:06,330 the last extreme weather events were made worse by climate 167 00:11:06,330 --> 00:11:11,490 change caused by pollution. Examples cited included the 2014 168 00:11:11,490 --> 00:11:15,960 California wildfires, and cyclones in Hawaii. The study 169 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,860 found that in 2014, extreme heat waves like the one that gripped 170 00:11:19,860 --> 00:11:23,700 South Korea were made worse by human caused climate change 171 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:27,780 things such as car emissions, burning coal and methane gas. 172 00:11:28,290 --> 00:11:32,160 The reports study 28 extreme weather events around the world 173 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,780 last year, 14 of those including devastating floods in Australia 174 00:11:36,780 --> 00:11:40,500 and New Zealand were found to be made worse in part by climate 175 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:44,340 change. But the impact of human activity can be complex. The 176 00:11:44,340 --> 00:11:47,130 report says this is the fourth year scientists have studied 177 00:11:47,130 --> 00:11:51,120 weather, extreme human a weather human activity is at least 178 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,090 partially to blame for extreme weather things such as droughts 179 00:11:54,090 --> 00:11:57,900 and wildfires. And over those years, Scott, more than half of 180 00:11:57,900 --> 00:12:00,300 the extreme weather events they've studied, have been 181 00:12:00,300 --> 00:12:04,080 linked to human caused climate change. I don't see people 182 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,990 trying to repeal the law of gravity, just because they're 183 00:12:06,990 --> 00:12:10,140 gaining weight, right? I didn't see people trying to repeal 184 00:12:10,140 --> 00:12:14,130 equals mc squared because it's somehow conflicted with their 185 00:12:15,150 --> 00:12:17,910 political philosophies. And these are the emergent 186 00:12:17,910 --> 00:12:21,330 scientific truths. So I'm disappointed when I look around 187 00:12:21,330 --> 00:12:26,010 and I see people cherry picking the consensus of observation and 188 00:12:26,010 --> 00:12:29,820 experiment that has emerged in science. That is the anatomy of 189 00:12:29,820 --> 00:12:32,220 a scientific truth. By the way, there are always some results 190 00:12:32,220 --> 00:12:35,340 that short dangle and linger with the emerging scientific 191 00:12:35,340 --> 00:12:39,720 truth is when multiple research investigations by different 192 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,750 people who would typically be in competition with one another, 193 00:12:43,770 --> 00:12:47,010 from different branches of science, who have an incentive 194 00:12:47,010 --> 00:12:49,350 not to confirm Oh, yeah, that's a very important point. Yeah. 195 00:12:49,350 --> 00:12:52,680 There's the idea behind the whole, like, bizarre crypto 196 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:55,950 conspiracy theory about global warming is somehow everyone's 197 00:12:55,950 --> 00:12:58,770 like working in concert, when in fact, everyone individually is 198 00:12:58,770 --> 00:13:02,250 the opposite of the thing just to get to the nitty gritty, do 199 00:13:02,250 --> 00:13:06,210 you believe that it's been proven that co2 is the primary 200 00:13:06,210 --> 00:13:11,790 control knob for climate? Do you believe that? No, no, I think 201 00:13:11,790 --> 00:13:15,000 that that measuring with precision, human activity on the 202 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,950 climate is something very challenging to do. And there's 203 00:13:16,980 --> 00:13:21,270 tremendous disagreement about the the degree of impact that so 204 00:13:21,270 --> 00:13:25,350 So no, I would not agree that it's a primary contributor to 205 00:13:25,350 --> 00:13:28,080 the to the global warming that we see. Okay, all right. We 206 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,900 don't know that yet. As far as we need to, we need to continue 207 00:13:30,900 --> 00:13:34,050 the debate and continue to review and analysis. It's, it's 208 00:13:34,050 --> 00:13:38,160 it's a I agree. When I hear the science is settled, it's like I 209 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,120 never heard that. Science actually gotten to a point where 210 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,850 it was that's that's the whole point of science is that you 211 00:13:44,850 --> 00:13:47,670 keep asking questions. You keep asking questions, but I don't 212 00:13:47,670 --> 00:13:51,480 want to be called a denier. So, you know, scares me as if it's a 213 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,580 terrible thing to be called. Anyway, administrator Pruitt. I 214 00:13:53,580 --> 00:13:56,820 know you don't want to call that here. Thanks for being with us 215 00:13:56,820 --> 00:13:57,840 this morning. Appreciate? 216 00:13:57,990 --> 00:14:00,450 Well, we're gonna bring in our science guy, Bill Nye and you 217 00:14:00,450 --> 00:14:03,810 know, talk about something else that's falling from the sky. And 218 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,940 that is an asteroid. Oh, 219 00:14:05,940 --> 00:14:06,420 what 220 00:14:06,450 --> 00:14:09,540 what's coming our way? Is this an effect of of perhaps global 221 00:14:09,540 --> 00:14:12,480 warming? Or is this just some Yorick occasion? 222 00:14:12,690 --> 00:14:16,230 Or you're present? you calling me a denier? That is a word 223 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:20,070 meant to put me down. I'm a skeptic about climate change. 224 00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:22,440 And I want to make it darn clear. Mr. Kennedy is not a 225 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,060 scientist. I am. He's the CEO of the Weather Channel. Now. I was 226 00:14:27,060 --> 00:14:29,610 the founder of The Weather Channel as the co founder. And 227 00:14:29,610 --> 00:14:31,950 I'm glad you did because I am addicted to the Weather Channel. 228 00:14:32,970 --> 00:14:38,010 Now, hold on a minute, I'm not done. And CNN has taken a very 229 00:14:38,010 --> 00:14:42,510 strong position on global warming. That is that is a 230 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:46,260 consensus. Well, there is no consensus in science and isn't a 231 00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:50,250 vote, scientists about facts. And if you get down to the hard, 232 00:14:50,250 --> 00:14:55,680 cold facts, there's no question about it. Climate change is not 233 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,270 happening. There is no significant manmade Global 234 00:15:00,270 --> 00:15:03,450 Warming now, there hasn't been any in the past. And there's no 235 00:15:03,450 --> 00:15:06,360 reason to expect any in the future. There's a whole lot of 236 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:11,850 baloney. And yes, it is has it has become a big political point 237 00:15:11,850 --> 00:15:14,730 of the Democratic Party and part of their platform. And I regret 238 00:15:14,730 --> 00:15:18,660 it's become political instead of scientific. But the science is 239 00:15:18,660 --> 00:15:21,570 on my side, I don't think we're gonna have a conclusion about 240 00:15:21,570 --> 00:15:23,430 the topic right here. What I do want to 241 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:28,380 allow it to happen on CNN, but I'm happy to get on 242 00:15:29,970 --> 00:15:34,140 your feet, your viewers, Hello, everybody. What I do no global 243 00:15:34,140 --> 00:15:36,780 warming. What I do wonder is when you see the government, 244 00:15:36,780 --> 00:15:40,140 when you see NASA, when you see other institutions say that 97% 245 00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:43,800 of climate scientists agree, do you think they're making it up? 246 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,640 I What I don't understand is how you figure and let me explain it 247 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,200 to you. The government puts out about two and a half billion 248 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,130 dollars directly for climate research every year, it only 249 00:15:56,130 --> 00:15:59,580 gives that money to scientists, who will produce scientific 250 00:15:59,580 --> 00:16:03,240 results that support the global warming hypothesis of the 251 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:08,370 Democrat Party position. So they don't have any choice. If you're 252 00:16:08,370 --> 00:16:11,490 going to get the money, you've got to support their position. 253 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,590 Therefore 97% of the scientific reports published support global 254 00:16:16,590 --> 00:16:20,100 warming, why? Because those are ones the government pays for. 255 00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:23,550 And that's where the money is. It's real simple. But that 256 00:16:23,550 --> 00:16:27,720 doesn't mean it's right. That doesn't make it true. That only 257 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,560 makes it button paid for the money goes in circles. So I like 258 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,800 to thank you. And I'm trying to do another one. And 259 00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:40,230 and I'm actually, I mean, it sounds perverse to many people, 260 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:43,290 I'm proud of having done the book about global warming. 261 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,720 I knew everybody was gonna be against me. And I thought, This 262 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,870 is what I believe. And I'm sorry. And I said it. And I did 263 00:16:51,870 --> 00:16:54,690 it. And I've taken just flack for it. But you know, it is what 264 00:16:54,690 --> 00:16:59,610 I believe. And because of you, you went into 265 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:07,110 rough seas, very rough seas, and nasty and personal and brutal 266 00:17:07,530 --> 00:17:13,530 and unfair and mean, well, what was nasty mean? Oh, Charlie, 267 00:17:13,530 --> 00:17:17,100 this is I mean, you got to look at what people say. For example, 268 00:17:17,100 --> 00:17:19,500 when I started talking about genetics, people said, Well, you 269 00:17:19,500 --> 00:17:21,540 know, you might get some criticism for this. Well, I 270 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:23,670 haven't got any criticism for genetics, let me tell you 271 00:17:25,979 --> 00:17:27,479 know, that criticism is, but 272 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,110 I've had the experience of having had books in print for 40 273 00:17:34,110 --> 00:17:37,140 years. So I can go back and look at the stand that I took in 274 00:17:37,140 --> 00:17:39,960 favor of abortion when I was a medical student in Boston in 275 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,680 1967, six years before Roe v. Wade, and I can look at that and 276 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:49,230 go was I right or not? And I think what I was right. And I'm 277 00:17:49,260 --> 00:17:53,310 imagining when I wrote this, but when I wrote the state of fear, 278 00:17:53,310 --> 00:17:55,560 I was imagining what's it going to look like in 40 years? 279 00:17:58,230 --> 00:18:01,770 I think I want to come out just fine. So what does this have to 280 00:18:01,770 --> 00:18:06,510 do with the global warming? Because global warming is a an 281 00:18:06,510 --> 00:18:07,410 anomaly. 282 00:18:09,030 --> 00:18:14,670 Based on hyped up by this generation, for something to 283 00:18:14,670 --> 00:18:18,750 bitch about? We've had it we had a 55,000 years ago, we had a 284 00:18:18,750 --> 00:18:23,460 300,000 years ago. But to blame it on us is bullshit, isn't it 285 00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:27,240 not accelerated by humans? 100,000,000th of a percent? Who 286 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,810 cares? So this is just a scam and a sham. And all I'm jealous 287 00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:34,950 of vice president What's his face? gore Gore. So um, I think 288 00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:39,840 the the key thing that we need to get out there is that there's 289 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,230 a lot of things about climate change, we still don't know. We 290 00:18:43,230 --> 00:18:46,560 spent a lot of time in the last 1520 years focusing on the 291 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,530 extinction of big charismatic wildlife. And we've thought a 292 00:18:49,530 --> 00:18:53,250 little bit about how that might impact their parasites. But the 293 00:18:53,250 --> 00:18:56,520 direct impacts of climate change on parasites haven't been as 294 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,450 well studied. So our our research comes out and sort of 295 00:19:00,450 --> 00:19:04,020 does this global survey and really thinks through Okay, 296 00:19:04,020 --> 00:19:08,010 well, how good or bad could climate change be for parasites, 297 00:19:08,010 --> 00:19:10,860 and it turns out that parasites follow the same logic most 298 00:19:10,860 --> 00:19:14,220 species do. A handful do a little bit better in a changing 299 00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:17,970 climate. And the vast majority actually do a lot worse, they 300 00:19:17,970 --> 00:19:21,300 lose a lot of habitat, they lose their house, they face very high 301 00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:24,540 extinction rates. So I think one of the really cool things about 302 00:19:24,540 --> 00:19:28,050 parasites is that we have undervalued them for decades. 303 00:19:28,410 --> 00:19:31,560 And that means that when it turns out they actually serve 304 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,990 important roles in ecosystems, it's a little more surprising. 305 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,150 parasites are a huge part of what holds ecosystems together. 306 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:42,480 They can be the majority of biomass in an ecosystem. They 307 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,770 can be 80% of the links in a food web. They control wildlife 308 00:19:46,770 --> 00:19:49,290 populations, they keep populations down, just like 309 00:19:49,290 --> 00:19:53,790 predators do. And just like predators in the 18th and 19th 310 00:19:53,790 --> 00:19:55,710 century when we were eradicating them. 311 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,840 parasites are obviously a hard sell but Turns out they play 312 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,220 this important regulatory role. And what we think could happen 313 00:20:05,220 --> 00:20:08,970 in a changing climate is, with these very high extinction 314 00:20:08,970 --> 00:20:12,750 rates, the loss of that stabilizing role could produce 315 00:20:12,750 --> 00:20:16,560 opportunities for new patterns of wildlife and human disease 316 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,120 that are genuinely concerning. So what he did was, he took the 317 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:26,100 modern instrumental temperature record and grafted it on to the 318 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:27,600 end of the tree. Right, it 319 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:28,320 sounds like you're saying 320 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,080 he cherry picked a particular tree sample that gave him the 321 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,720 data that he wanted for the early part of the record, and 322 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,700 then use the latest temperature data grafted on to create this, 323 00:20:38,730 --> 00:20:42,150 this this huge spike the blade? Yeah. And of course, the thing 324 00:20:42,150 --> 00:20:45,000 is, when you look at that blade, that sudden up pretty 325 00:20:45,030 --> 00:20:48,990 temperature that he has is the blade of his hockey stick. It's 326 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:55,140 the accuracy of it is plus or minus 33%. Okay, so how did this 327 00:20:55,140 --> 00:20:59,280 become the iconic graph that everybody referred to, and that 328 00:20:59,430 --> 00:21:01,290 has driven so much of the climate discussion, 329 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,130 because because these people were were being paid and worked 330 00:21:05,130 --> 00:21:07,350 at the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on 331 00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:11,010 Climate Change, and that their goal was to show that humans 332 00:21:11,010 --> 00:21:14,520 were causing global warming and climate change. And therefore, 333 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,000 they created the data that justified that. And of course, 334 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,140 the hockey stick showed up until the humans and their industry 335 00:21:22,140 --> 00:21:26,250 appeared in the 1880s. The temperature was going down 336 00:21:26,250 --> 00:21:29,790 slightly and was almost level and then all suddenly, boom, 337 00:21:29,820 --> 00:21:33,240 there it is. That's proof that humans are the cause. That's the 338 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,150 whole objective of everything they've done. 339 00:21:36,330 --> 00:21:39,540 A Dutch court ruled today that the Netherlands must cut 340 00:21:39,540 --> 00:21:42,570 greenhouse gas emissions to climate ruling ordered 341 00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:47,490 reductions of at least 25% below 1990 levels by 2020. 342 00:21:47,790 --> 00:21:51,720 environmental activists said the case lays the legal groundwork 343 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,120 for similar action in other countries. 344 00:21:54,750 --> 00:21:58,440 The White House defended the president today against a world 345 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,190 of opposition to his decision to withdraw from the Paris Climate 346 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:06,480 accord. The deal signed by nearly 200 countries commits 347 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,140 them to voluntarily reduce pollution linked to global 348 00:22:10,140 --> 00:22:14,160 warming. The president's chief defender heads the agency whose 349 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,150 mission is in its title environmental protection. Ship 350 00:22:18,150 --> 00:22:22,620 read begins our coverage. The President made a very courageous 351 00:22:22,650 --> 00:22:26,730 decision yesterday in the AF America, EPA chief Scott Pruitt, 352 00:22:26,730 --> 00:22:30,000 a leading voice and convincing President Trump to get out of 353 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,690 the Paris Climate accord today defended him against worldwide 354 00:22:33,690 --> 00:22:37,350 condemnation. We have nothing to be apologetic about as a 355 00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:40,710 country. Other top White House officials hit the airwaves, 356 00:22:40,980 --> 00:22:44,340 making clear the President was focused not on the environment, 357 00:22:44,460 --> 00:22:48,690 but on jobs putting the American worker the American economy 358 00:22:48,690 --> 00:22:49,380 first because he 359 00:22:49,380 --> 00:22:52,260 promised to protect American jobs American interests American 360 00:22:52,260 --> 00:22:52,710 workers. 361 00:22:52,740 --> 00:22:56,250 It's a position that appears to have limited political downside. 362 00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:59,820 A CBS News poll found that when asked what is the single most 363 00:22:59,820 --> 00:23:03,630 important problem for the government this year 13% 364 00:23:03,630 --> 00:23:07,860 volunteered that it's the economy and jobs just 2% said 365 00:23:07,980 --> 00:23:09,990 the environment and global warming 366 00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:13,590 electroplate restaurant chain is warning its investors about the 367 00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:16,740 risks of global warming. In its annual report. The company says 368 00:23:16,740 --> 00:23:19,860 climate change might eventually affect the availability of key 369 00:23:19,860 --> 00:23:24,000 ingredients such as avocados, it's added to Livermore National 370 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,210 Lab prediction that hotter temperatures will cause a 40% 371 00:23:27,210 --> 00:23:30,510 drop in California avocado production over the next three 372 00:23:30,510 --> 00:23:34,320 decades. The company says that issue could eventually drive up 373 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,740 prices and forced to take items such as guacamole on the menu, 374 00:23:37,890 --> 00:23:41,490 the International Energy Agency is predicting global greenhouse 375 00:23:41,490 --> 00:23:45,480 gas emissions will drop a record 8% this year as air travel 376 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,620 vehicular traffic and oil use has plummeted across much of the 377 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:54,270 globe due to the corona virus pandemic. But the IAEA warns 378 00:23:54,270 --> 00:23:57,930 emissions may soar again unless governments invest now in clean 379 00:23:57,930 --> 00:24:02,460 energy. This comes as a new study by NASA finds that 5000 380 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,880 Giga tons of ice have melted in Greenland and Antarctica over 381 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,240 the last 16 years producing enough water to fill Lake 382 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,410 Michigan shoe on this before it's gone. In news that's not so 383 00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:16,920 sweet. Business Insider reports there's a chocolate shortage and 384 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,350 experts say it's on track to vanish by 2050 385 00:24:19,410 --> 00:24:23,190 What on earth can we do about it called Mars the candy company 386 00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:26,190 that is Mars incorporated is working with scientists at the 387 00:24:26,190 --> 00:24:29,070 University of California Berkeley to develop cacao plants 388 00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:32,670 that won't wilt. In the simplest of terms warmer temps and drier 389 00:24:32,670 --> 00:24:36,300 conditions are killing cow plants. Thankfully brainiacs at 390 00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:39,330 UC Berkeley developed gene editing technology that lets 391 00:24:39,330 --> 00:24:42,690 scientists in the Candy Company tweak the crops DNA. This is 392 00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:45,750 important because over half of the world's chocolate now comes 393 00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:48,240 from two countries in West Africa, according to the 394 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,420 International Business Times, but in a few decades, these 395 00:24:51,420 --> 00:24:55,020 areas won't be suitable for the plants. If all goes well instead 396 00:24:55,020 --> 00:24:58,680 of relocating them uphill in an area preserved for wildlife, the 397 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,190 plants won't rot or will where they are, and we get to enjoy 398 00:25:02,190 --> 00:25:05,490 more chocolate. So thank you you see Berkeley Mars in the gene 399 00:25:05,490 --> 00:25:08,880 editing tool, you could call them The Three Musketeers. See 400 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,630 what I did there? 401 00:25:10,380 --> 00:25:13,710 Millions of people have taken part in protests as part of 402 00:25:13,710 --> 00:25:17,610 global action against climate change. Demonstrations have been 403 00:25:17,610 --> 00:25:22,020 held in around 150 countries, as calls grow for governments to 404 00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:25,950 take a stronger lead in tackling the crisis. Now I'm joined by 405 00:25:25,950 --> 00:25:28,620 skies climate change correspondent Hannah Thomas 406 00:25:28,620 --> 00:25:32,370 Peter, who's in New York, where a un summit on global warming 407 00:25:32,370 --> 00:25:35,940 will be held on Monday, Hannah, what has prompted this worldwide 408 00:25:35,940 --> 00:25:40,230 day of action? Well, it's been organized, or shall we say 409 00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:42,840 inspired by Friday's for future, 410 00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:45,150 which was really started by Greta tunberg, 411 00:25:45,180 --> 00:25:47,940 the young girl from Stockholm has become a kind of global 412 00:25:47,940 --> 00:25:51,870 icon, a person who represents the voices of millions and 413 00:25:51,870 --> 00:25:54,750 millions of schoolchildren who followed her example and start 414 00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:58,320 is striking from school on Fridays. Every few months or so 415 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,220 there is a global school strike and those school strikes have 416 00:26:02,220 --> 00:26:05,460 been growing. This is potentially the largest one to 417 00:26:05,460 --> 00:26:11,760 date, we've got 150 different countries involved 2500 separate 418 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,140 strikes across the world. We're looking at potentially millions 419 00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:18,930 of people on the streets today in what could be one of the 420 00:26:18,930 --> 00:26:25,470 largest climate protests in history. And the idea is at this 421 00:26:25,470 --> 00:26:29,970 point, for it not to be just schoolchildren, demanding action 422 00:26:29,970 --> 00:26:33,960 and change on a defining issue of our time, but to get adults 423 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,470 to join and stand beside them. A new study shows the number of 424 00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:41,040 people who could be displaced by sea level rise this century due 425 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,920 to global warming is much higher than previously thought with 426 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,490 more than 13 million people at risk nearly half of them in 427 00:26:47,490 --> 00:26:51,390 Florida. Those numbers are about three times higher than previous 428 00:26:51,390 --> 00:26:55,260 estimates for displacement. Deepak Mishra elaborated on the 429 00:26:55,260 --> 00:26:56,190 findings. 430 00:26:56,490 --> 00:27:00,780 I think there are certain layered approach that can be 431 00:27:01,260 --> 00:27:03,270 that can come from stem from this research. 432 00:27:05,130 --> 00:27:07,740 This is Jim Hanson at Jim Hanson. By the way, if we go 433 00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:10,140 back in 1988, 434 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,050 he was asked by a reporter 435 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,650 How do you see things in 40 years and he says what you see 436 00:27:16,650 --> 00:27:18,780 the highway down here, the western highway outside of his 437 00:27:18,780 --> 00:27:20,250 office, not going to be there anymore. 438 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,910 Based on a doubling of co2 from pre industrial times, well, 439 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,710 right now we've gone 440 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,440 25 years into the 40 years, we've had one inch of sea level 441 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,370 rise, there are 10 feet to go for him to make his prediction. 442 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,640 And it's got to happen within the next 15 years. 443 00:27:42,450 --> 00:27:48,090 You take a look at the SEC. This is Jim Hanson slide. 444 00:27:49,770 --> 00:27:53,700 Where he decided realizing that sea level was not rising. He 445 00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:57,450 said it's really going to be exponential. So by the mid 446 00:27:57,450 --> 00:27:59,940 century really isn't going to rise at all, he won't even be 447 00:27:59,940 --> 00:28:03,360 alive here, neither ally. And yet, we're going to get four, 448 00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:08,910 four meters of rise. Next is meters now feet in the last 20 449 00:28:08,910 --> 00:28:09,750 years of the century. 450 00:28:11,070 --> 00:28:13,920 Don't hold your breath on this one either. That's right, Judy, 451 00:28:13,950 --> 00:28:19,080 was the hottest June on record going back 139 years, According 452 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,740 to NASA. And today, halfway into July, the National Weather 453 00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:25,950 Service forecasts potentially deadly temperatures throughout 454 00:28:25,950 --> 00:28:29,820 this weekend across much of the United States. This week, a 455 00:28:29,820 --> 00:28:33,240 study by the Union of Concerned Scientists warn that the number 456 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,410 of extreme heat days could more than double by mid century, just 457 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,190 30 years away, if we don't change how much of those heat 458 00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:45,180 trapping gases we emit. For more on where we are and where we 459 00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:48,240 might be going. I'm joined by austrade called us. She's a 460 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,480 senior climate scientist at the Union of Concerned Scientists. 461 00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:52,170 Welcome. 462 00:28:52,290 --> 00:28:52,980 Thank you. 463 00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:57,390 The skeptics are going to say, look, it's summertime, of course 464 00:28:57,390 --> 00:29:03,240 it's hot. What can you say? What does the science say about this 465 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,300 particular kind of a heatwave over this much of the US and how 466 00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:07,680 it relates to climate change? 467 00:29:08,190 --> 00:29:12,480 Well, this particular heatwave is due to a meteorological 468 00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:15,990 phenomena that happens in the atmosphere. So this can happen 469 00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:20,850 independently of climate change. However, this heat dome that's 470 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,250 leading to this heatwave is trapping warmer air because as 471 00:29:26,250 --> 00:29:30,690 we know, the last 18 years all the years in this century have 472 00:29:30,690 --> 00:29:33,870 been record breaking years in terms of warming, so the 473 00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:37,230 thermometer is going up, temperatures are going up. So 474 00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:40,230 the heat waves are likely going up also, 475 00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:42,450 when ocean level rises. 476 00:29:43,530 --> 00:29:46,440 Thank you for asking that question. I have the answer that 477 00:29:47,310 --> 00:29:48,240 I have the answer 478 00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:52,080 the question? Yeah. Okay. 479 00:29:52,140 --> 00:29:56,370 So the first time we changing the gas now you're full 480 00:29:56,370 --> 00:29:59,970 of shit. Sit down. I'm gonna answer you. I'm gonna shut up. 481 00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:01,890 Shut up and sit down. 482 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,230 No way. Sit down. No, I gotta finish by Chris. You I'm gonna 483 00:30:07,230 --> 00:30:11,640 answer global warming. My finish the question, answer is changing 484 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,870 on earth, and it's changing to co2. What do you people with the 485 00:30:15,870 --> 00:30:19,230 money? What are you doing about the speaker? tell you right now? 486 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:25,440 No, I've got children. I've got 2123 year old children. And 487 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,470 what's the future with you people with money? 488 00:30:28,650 --> 00:30:33,480 You talk about money all the time. Okay, sit down, please sit 489 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,630 down, please. In the front row, excuse me, in the front row, 490 00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:38,970 please sit down. Okay, you've asked you a question. Thank you 491 00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:43,950 very much. Okay. And 2011, my wife and I were in Antarctica, 492 00:30:44,340 --> 00:30:47,580 renewing our vows. For those of you that don't know, an Arctic 493 00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:52,680 is on a mountaintop. And there is a $500 million facility, 494 00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:57,750 scientific facility there. And the scientists came to give us 495 00:30:57,750 --> 00:31:03,330 presentations about global warming. And they had cores of 496 00:31:03,330 --> 00:31:06,330 ice that they had drilled, they drove four or 5000 cores, and 497 00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:09,240 they only brought 15 or 20. So they're going through the second 498 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,830 or third core. And they said a 275,000 years ago, this was the 499 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:20,490 temperature level. And then 55,000 years ago, the world was 500 00:31:20,490 --> 00:31:25,920 two degrees warmer Celsius than it is today. This is 2011. 501 00:31:27,180 --> 00:31:30,630 And he said, and I said, Well, you mean the whole world says 502 00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:35,310 yes. And the polls are only benchmarks. And I said, Well, 503 00:31:35,310 --> 00:31:40,170 what about the things that the young woman alluded to? Okay. 504 00:31:40,410 --> 00:31:45,120 And he said, it's all cyclical. And although the gas may have 505 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,580 exacerbated in the cosmos of time, it's not a fart in the 506 00:31:50,580 --> 00:31:56,820 wind. In the cosmos of time of the 13 point 8 billion years 507 00:31:56,940 --> 00:31:59,580 that we've been on this miserable planet, it's not a 508 00:31:59,580 --> 00:32:03,210 fart in the wind. Now my direct answer to your question, if that 509 00:32:03,210 --> 00:32:06,120 were really true, would you believe and let's just for a 510 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,470 moment, say that it is true. That means that the best 511 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:14,760 scenario visa v global warming is about 10 feet raise in water, 512 00:32:14,790 --> 00:32:17,730 that's the best scenario over the next 4050 years. That's the 513 00:32:17,730 --> 00:32:22,650 best scenario. If the water on the planet is going around, rise 514 00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:27,240 up 10 feet, that means the southern part of the United 515 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,850 States has gone. England has gone most of Europe has gone and 516 00:32:32,850 --> 00:32:37,980 I can go most of Central America has gone. Okay? If that's the 517 00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:41,400 case, let's just take Florida for example, which is one of the 518 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,970 fastest going condominium beachfront condominiums on the 519 00:32:44,970 --> 00:32:49,950 planet. In the perspectives when you invest, there should be in 520 00:32:49,950 --> 00:32:54,420 the footnotes. If global warming is for real, they will put it 521 00:32:54,420 --> 00:32:59,040 that way. Global warming happens and water rises 10 feet, this 522 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,330 investment you made is 523 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,660 now one single investment perspectives written since 2000. 524 00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:13,080 This century has alluded to global warming. Now one 525 00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:17,670 motherfucker, if it were really true, the bench wouldn't invest. 526 00:33:17,730 --> 00:33:22,380 The banks wouldn't finance now one motherfucking. condominium 527 00:33:23,070 --> 00:33:27,420 so the people that have the money, and I'm jealous of the 528 00:33:27,420 --> 00:33:30,840 Vice President Gore, which Shaolin I wrote in a plane from 529 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,080 South America with fears of I am jealous, he came up with a scam 530 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,740 before I did, because the financial institutions, the 531 00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:43,950 banks of this world, no, it's not gonna happen. Otherwise, you 532 00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:48,930 couldn't get a goddamn loan in London. You know those 3040 year 533 00:33:48,930 --> 00:33:53,460 mortgages. The war will be over by then. Is Barclays Bank going 534 00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:57,210 to give you a motherfucking loan with the greatest respect bam, 535 00:33:57,330 --> 00:34:00,600 it's the greatest fraud that's been perpetrated on mankind this 536 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,200 century. 537 00:34:01,860 --> 00:34:05,130 From heat waves to back to back hurricanes. One San Jose State 538 00:34:05,130 --> 00:34:09,450 professor says get used to it and may become our new normal. 539 00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:12,330 Tonight she told capex wise Maria Medina, it is all 540 00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:14,820 connected to climate change. 541 00:34:17,339 --> 00:34:21,269 Back to Back hurricanes, Irma, Jose, Katia and Harvey which 542 00:34:21,269 --> 00:34:23,549 devastated parts of Texas, it's gonna 543 00:34:23,550 --> 00:34:26,670 be a 500 year flood or 1000 years. It's ridiculous. 544 00:34:26,939 --> 00:34:30,299 are all signs of what San Jose State meteorology professors 545 00:34:30,299 --> 00:34:33,809 like Alison Bridger, there is the hurricane you can see the I 546 00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:37,559 really well have taught students for years. The oceans are 547 00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:40,529 warming up just as the atmosphere is warming up. She 548 00:34:40,529 --> 00:34:44,099 says recent weather events across our country are proof of 549 00:34:44,099 --> 00:34:48,149 global warming. And now she says it's catching up to us. We've 550 00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:51,089 been teaching about this stuff for over 20 years and we're 551 00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:54,059 still not doing anything about it. Another piece of evidence 552 00:34:54,059 --> 00:34:57,059 that climate change is happening According to Professor Bridger 553 00:34:57,269 --> 00:35:01,679 our own record breaking heatwave over the week. And so hot it 554 00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:05,399 even caused equipment problems and delays for Bart. It's not 555 00:35:05,399 --> 00:35:08,759 like we broke the record by a teeny bit. We broke the record 556 00:35:09,179 --> 00:35:13,919 by a lot. So the question is, is this the new norm? I would tend 557 00:35:13,919 --> 00:35:17,309 to think so. So what exactly does that mean? The professor 558 00:35:17,309 --> 00:35:21,419 says climate change means more and longer heat waves or cold 559 00:35:21,419 --> 00:35:24,899 weather, droughts and even extreme rain events like 560 00:35:24,899 --> 00:35:31,409 hurricanes, Harvey was probably able to grow strong because of 561 00:35:31,409 --> 00:35:35,219 the super warm temperatures in the ocean in the Gulf of Mexico. 562 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,230 Global concentrations of carbon dioxide have reached levels not 563 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:43,890 seen for 2 million years. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric 564 00:35:43,890 --> 00:35:46,890 Administration said today, the monthly average crossed that 565 00:35:46,890 --> 00:35:50,280 line in March. It also said concentrations of heat trapping 566 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,830 gas are rising at a record pace. 567 00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:56,250 In climate news. A major new study published in the journal 568 00:35:56,250 --> 00:36:00,990 Science finds the world's oceans are absorbing heat at a far 569 00:36:00,990 --> 00:36:04,230 faster rate than previously predicted of finding with 570 00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:07,530 troubling implications for the future of life on Earth. The 571 00:36:07,530 --> 00:36:10,890 study found greenhouse gas emissions are warming the oceans 572 00:36:10,890 --> 00:36:15,630 40% faster than even the dire predictions made by the UN's top 573 00:36:15,630 --> 00:36:19,260 climate scientists five years ago. The authors write quote, 574 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,730 this warming has contributed to increases in rainfall intensity, 575 00:36:23,730 --> 00:36:26,640 rising sea levels the destruction of coral reefs, 576 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:31,230 declining ocean oxygen levels and declines in ice sheets 577 00:36:31,230 --> 00:36:35,670 glaciers and ice caps and the polar regions. Across Europe a 578 00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:38,790 cold wave kept much of the continent in the Deep Freeze 579 00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:43,170 today. In Paris layers of snow covered much of the city, 580 00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:47,490 disrupting travel in sub zero weather. And off the Normandy 581 00:36:47,490 --> 00:36:51,060 code. The famed tidal Island multi family shell was 582 00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:54,240 surrounded by snow and ice are rarity. 583 00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:58,800 Boston has finally set a dubious new record most snow and a 584 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,920 single winter. The city got nearly three more inches on 585 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,510 Sunday pushing the seasonal total to 108.6 inches. That's 586 00:37:06,510 --> 00:37:10,230 more than nine feet of snow and the most since Boston began 587 00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:12,690 keeping records in 1872. 588 00:37:13,350 --> 00:37:17,640 This snow had many and taho today saying so much for summer. 589 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,180 The National Weather Service said up to five inches is 590 00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:23,730 expected in the higher elevations of the Northern 591 00:37:23,730 --> 00:37:28,200 Sierra. Here's the view from our KPI x five Sierra camp. These 592 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,590 conditions force the weather service to issue an advisory 593 00:37:31,590 --> 00:37:35,070 through tomorrow. Warning drivers to be ready for winter 594 00:37:35,070 --> 00:37:36,240 driving conditions 595 00:37:36,270 --> 00:37:37,050 in June. 596 00:37:37,230 --> 00:37:40,710 It's the biggest warning from the science community yet a call 597 00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:45,990 for action. The IPCC report is clear, urgent and unprecedented 598 00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:49,050 changes are needed to keep global temperatures from rising 599 00:37:49,050 --> 00:37:54,060 to unbearable levels. Limiting warming to 1.5 degrees is not 600 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,620 impossible, but will require unprecedented transitions in all 601 00:37:58,620 --> 00:38:02,310 aspects of society. There are clear benefits to keep warming 602 00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:07,560 to 1.5 degrees Celsius compared to two degrees or higher, every 603 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:13,170 bit of warming matters. The 2015 Paris Agreement aimed at keeping 604 00:38:13,170 --> 00:38:16,440 a global temperature rise this century well below two degrees 605 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,820 Celsius above pre industrial levels. But the IPCC is new 606 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:24,180 report shows that the effects of global warming would already be 607 00:38:24,180 --> 00:38:30,150 disastrous with a 1.5 degree increase 1.5 degrees would cause 608 00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:35,070 a rise in global water levels of about 48 centimeters 56 609 00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:38,910 centimeters if temperatures were to rise to degrees, the impact 610 00:38:38,910 --> 00:38:42,090 on the environment would be even more important. a rise in two 611 00:38:42,090 --> 00:38:45,870 degrees would cause the extinction of 18% of all insects 612 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:51,420 16% of all plants and 8% of all vertebrates, not to mention the 613 00:38:51,420 --> 00:38:56,100 effect on human populations, limiting global warming to 1.5 614 00:38:56,130 --> 00:39:00,840 compared to two degrees would reduce the number of people 615 00:39:01,110 --> 00:39:06,960 exposed to climate related risks and susceptible to poverty by up 616 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:13,710 to several 100 millions by 2050. Limiting global warming to 1.5 617 00:39:13,710 --> 00:39:18,150 degrees Celsius comes with a hefty price tag, some 2.1 618 00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:22,350 trillion euros would have to be invested every year for 25 619 00:39:22,350 --> 00:39:27,330 years. For example, you know if you if you tell people that okay 620 00:39:28,830 --> 00:39:32,400 85 years down the road, you know 13 million people will be 621 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,200 affected if we take the most extreme projection which is 1.8 622 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,210 meter sea level rise by 2100. But I think we need to take the 623 00:39:42,210 --> 00:39:47,910 study forward by doing another study of what is the impact of 624 00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:51,900 sea level rise right now. In terms of you know, frequent 625 00:39:51,930 --> 00:39:52,830 coastal flooding, 626 00:39:52,860 --> 00:39:56,010 global warming is changing horror movies and it's not 627 00:39:56,010 --> 00:40:00,000 likely to stop anytime soon. Hello, I'm Jenna. I haven't met 628 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,220 master's degree in media and culture and I've spent years 629 00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:05,580 studying horror media and video game cultures and living on this 630 00:40:05,580 --> 00:40:09,660 planet three things I love to do, which is why I like many are 631 00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:12,900 concerned about the increasingly irreversible damage we're doing 632 00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:16,710 to the planet. What does that have to do with horror? Well, 633 00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:19,500 we're seeing the growth of an entirely new sub genre of 634 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:23,280 horror, which isn't necessarily unusual genres are created and 635 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,710 abandoned all the time in connection with societal 636 00:40:25,710 --> 00:40:29,790 changes, like in the mid 20th century, when every TV show and 637 00:40:29,790 --> 00:40:33,480 movie was a Western, or last year when every movie was a 638 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,530 superhero film. Right now we're seeing the emergence of eco 639 00:40:37,530 --> 00:40:41,640 horror stories in which the planet itself is the monster 640 00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:45,900 is global warming causing goats to shrink. That's what 641 00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:48,660 researchers from the UK Durham University are claiming. 642 00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:52,350 Researchers say smaller goats are evidence that global warming 643 00:40:52,350 --> 00:40:55,920 is impacting animal size. Durham researchers studied the body 644 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,610 size of Alpine shammy mountain goats over three decades, and 645 00:40:59,610 --> 00:41:03,600 found that young shammies today weigh 25% less than their peers 646 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,010 did in the 1980s. Researchers linked shrinking body sizes to 647 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,480 increasing temperatures. 648 00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:14,340 So a jeweler in Wilmington, North Carolina took a pretty big 649 00:41:14,340 --> 00:41:19,140 gamble, but it was his customers who won big, the store promised 650 00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:23,130 to refund everything customers bought if it snowed more than 651 00:41:23,130 --> 00:41:26,880 three inches in Asheville on Christmas Day. Well, it snowed 652 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,970 more than three inches, in fact, more than six inches. And that 653 00:41:29,970 --> 00:41:32,820 really made Christmas special for at least one family. It is a 654 00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:33,330 gamble. And 655 00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:36,360 luckily it worked out for us, it's only gonna be about $150. 656 00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:43,020 But with my family to $550 goes a long way. So getting $150 back 657 00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:43,740 can be really nice. 658 00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:49,140 Well, that store sold half a million dollars in jewelry 659 00:41:49,170 --> 00:41:53,610 during the promotion. The most expensive item was a $12,000 660 00:41:53,610 --> 00:41:56,550 engagement ring, the couple plans to use that refund to pay 661 00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:57,120 for the wedding 662 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,500 on the on the issue of climate change. I believe the climate 663 00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:05,880 changes, I believe in variations in the in the climate throughout 664 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,540 history. And that's documented. Yes, that's not the controvert 665 00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:13,470 The facts are these, the facts are these and this is by the 666 00:42:13,470 --> 00:42:20,310 National Oceanographic agency, that from 1975 until about 2000. 667 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,710 The global mean surface temperature increased by about a 668 00:42:25,710 --> 00:42:30,120 half a degree centigrade since 2000. It has not increased at 669 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,350 all bullshit. 670 00:42:34,770 --> 00:42:38,400 Government. But let's assume for a moment, there's no climate 671 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,190 change. Why isn't it the religious God fearing thing to 672 00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:44,280 do to protect our Earth under any circumstances? Why is it? 673 00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:46,650 Why should it Why can't? 674 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,890 That's a strong man. Everybody agrees that we should be good 675 00:42:52,890 --> 00:42:55,950 good stewards of God's creation. Everybody agrees on that we're 676 00:42:55,950 --> 00:42:59,970 all for cleaner reducing carbon emissions. The problem is the 677 00:42:59,970 --> 00:43:04,380 unintended consequences. Let me just give you one example. You 678 00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:07,140 probably supported when you were in Congress, certainly the Bush 679 00:43:07,140 --> 00:43:11,280 administration did an ethanol mandate that would say that 10% 680 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,730 of the gasoline when you went to the pump, would be ethanol. 681 00:43:14,850 --> 00:43:18,600 Okay, for purposes of lowering carbon emissions. What people 682 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,890 didn't calculate is a third of the US corn crop got diverted to 683 00:43:22,890 --> 00:43:27,540 gasoline. What happened? relief agencies trying to feed the poor 684 00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:31,650 in Africa, in Mexico, where a third of the population lives on 685 00:43:31,650 --> 00:43:36,060 $5 or less a day there were right about efficiency by 50. 686 00:43:36,060 --> 00:43:39,270 Double but didn't it? Rain bread? 687 00:43:43,890 --> 00:43:47,460 Didn't Rain, rain? Oh, whatever. 688 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,090 I'm a commercial crapper. And I've been working in the 689 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,510 Chesapeake Bay for 50 plus years, and I have a crab house 690 00:43:57,660 --> 00:44:01,170 business out on the water. And the water level is the same as 691 00:44:01,170 --> 00:44:05,940 it was when the place was built in 1970. I'm not a scientist, 692 00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:10,470 but I'm a keen observer. And if sea level rise is occurring, why 693 00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:13,110 am I not seeing signs of it? We're our island is 694 00:44:13,110 --> 00:44:16,290 disappearing. But it's because of erosion and not sea level 695 00:44:16,290 --> 00:44:19,770 rise and plus we get us a wall we lose. We will lose our 696 00:44:19,770 --> 00:44:23,550 island. But back to the question Why? Why am I not seeing signs 697 00:44:23,550 --> 00:44:26,520 of the sea level rise? What do you think the erosion is due to 698 00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:36,210 Mayor wave action storms as that increased? Any? Not really. So 699 00:44:36,210 --> 00:44:39,030 you're losing the island even though the waves and have an 700 00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:43,680 increase? Yes, this this erosion has been going on, since Captain 701 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,850 john smith discovered the island and named it. Yeah, well, it's 702 00:44:47,850 --> 00:44:51,150 gotten to our doorstep now and we focus on it more well, 703 00:44:51,150 --> 00:44:54,060 arguments about signs aren't necessarily going to be of any 704 00:44:54,060 --> 00:44:56,880 comfort to you and I'm sorry for what you're going through and 705 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,920 your neighbors on Tangier island. I read about you in the 706 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,890 paper. There was an article in The Washington Post, I believe, 707 00:45:04,890 --> 00:45:08,040 after President Trump called you up and won't necessarily do any 708 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,430 good for me to tell you that the scientists do say that the sea 709 00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:14,430 level is rising in the Chesapeake Bay and that you've 710 00:45:14,430 --> 00:45:20,160 lost about two thirds of your island already in it over a 711 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:25,020 longer period of time. And that the forecast for the future is 712 00:45:25,050 --> 00:45:28,950 another two feet of Sue, what would another if if there was 713 00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:31,950 another two feet of sea level rise? What would that mean for 714 00:45:31,950 --> 00:45:36,660 Tangier island? Tangier Island, is our elevation is only about 715 00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:40,380 four feet above sea level. Yeah. And if if I see sea level rise 716 00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:43,740 occurring, I'll shout it from the housetop. Okay, and then we 717 00:45:43,740 --> 00:45:47,100 don't have, you know, the land to give up. But I'm just not 718 00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:51,630 seeing it. Yeah, okay. Well, one of the challenges of this issue 719 00:45:51,660 --> 00:45:56,460 is taking what the, what the scientists say, and, and 720 00:45:56,460 --> 00:46:00,930 translating it into terms that are believable to people with 721 00:46:00,930 --> 00:46:04,470 that where they can see the consequences in the in their own 722 00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:08,010 lives. And, and I get that, and I try every day to figure out 723 00:46:08,010 --> 00:46:10,410 ways to ways to do that fortune, because 724 00:46:10,410 --> 00:46:13,530 on some of them, you may think, Well, you know, I can follow her 725 00:46:13,530 --> 00:46:17,970 on Xs, you but on why? That is the reality. She's wrong. Well, 726 00:46:18,030 --> 00:46:21,120 let's have a discussion about that. So I'll start with perhaps 727 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,080 the most contentious of all, which is manmade global warming. 728 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,910 And I will put my cards on the table. And I will say there is 729 00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:33,570 little, if anything, to support the idea that something 730 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,640 extraordinary and unprecedented is happening to the climate. For 731 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,650 example, it was warmer 1000s of years ago, for example, the link 732 00:46:43,650 --> 00:46:47,670 between carbon dioxide and temperature is not 733 00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:51,360 straightforward. For example, the seas are not rising, the ice 734 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,840 is not shrinking, the polar bears are not vanishing. And our 735 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,770 gore did not deserve his Nobel Prize. There has been no 736 00:46:58,770 --> 00:47:02,430 significant warming since 1995. Despite the fact that we're told 737 00:47:02,430 --> 00:47:05,490 that if carbon dioxide increases, the temperature will 738 00:47:05,490 --> 00:47:08,580 increase. Carbon Dioxide has increased the temperature has 739 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:12,240 not increased. And the most important thing of all, is that 740 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:14,880 the argument that the climate which is possibly the most 741 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,080 complex system, that there is the idea that it a can be 742 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,840 predicted, and b can be altered by changing one component is 743 00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:30,150 absurd. So here is now what I worry about very much is the 744 00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:35,430 conference going to be in Paris in November. And I really worry 745 00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:39,960 about that. Because where the conference was in, in 746 00:47:40,170 --> 00:47:44,370 Copenhagen, that almost became a disaster, but nothing got 747 00:47:44,370 --> 00:47:49,320 decided. But now I think the people who are alarmist, I've 748 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:54,060 been very strong physician. And so the Physical Society always 749 00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:57,690 have made up their mind. So I don't have to worry about them. 750 00:47:58,230 --> 00:48:01,860 But the facts are, that in the last 100 years or so we 751 00:48:01,860 --> 00:48:05,310 have measured the temperature has gone up point eight degrees, 752 00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:08,310 and everything in the world has gotten better. 753 00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:14,400 So how can they say it's gonna get worse? When we have the 754 00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:17,910 evidence that if it's true that they can measure at least they 755 00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:20,910 believe it, or the temperature going up point and agree, 756 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,240 everything we live longer, we have better word, better health, 757 00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:28,590 better everything. But we forgot one other point eight degrees, 758 00:48:28,590 --> 00:48:33,510 we're going to die I guess. And I say this to Obama, excuse me, 759 00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:38,610 Mr. President, prove you're wrong. He is dead wrong. And I 760 00:48:38,610 --> 00:48:42,870 said that once in a while I will partner add in a Time Magazine. 761 00:48:43,290 --> 00:48:47,460 And I said the same thing. Because he he I think Obama is a 762 00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:51,810 clever person. But he get bad advice. At a global warming, 763 00:48:51,810 --> 00:48:56,430 he's all wet. See, I would say that the global warming 764 00:48:56,430 --> 00:49:01,290 basically is a non problem. Just leave it alone take care of 765 00:49:01,290 --> 00:49:04,200 itself. It's quite a special moment when we come out of the 766 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,670 forest. Come over this rice and bam right in front of us is this 767 00:49:08,670 --> 00:49:12,690 huge, giant white face of the snout and the end of the glass 768 00:49:12,690 --> 00:49:16,200 here and we just kind of had a moment of taking it in and him 769 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,010 realizing this is why he's fought so hard for all he's 770 00:49:20,010 --> 00:49:23,490 doing to try and protect our planet. Your most problems in 771 00:49:23,490 --> 00:49:28,590 the world, as tragic as they may be, are fixable. You can reverse 772 00:49:28,590 --> 00:49:31,590 trends. This is one of those trends where if it starts 773 00:49:31,590 --> 00:49:36,360 accelerating too fast, then we we can be through light. Because 774 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:41,070 when the planet warmed beginning in 1976, the temperature of the 775 00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:43,860 stratosphere started to drop. That's a prediction of 776 00:49:43,860 --> 00:49:47,640 greenhouse theory. That's not intuitive. You know, the great 777 00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:52,200 philosopher of science, Karl Popper said, if you can meet a 778 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,530 difficult prediction with your theory, you can continue to 779 00:49:55,530 --> 00:49:58,560 entertain your theory. So the theory is right but the 780 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,400 application of it is wrong. It is nowhere near as warm as it's 781 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:07,230 supposed to be. The computer models are making systematic 782 00:50:07,230 --> 00:50:12,300 dramatic errors over the entire tropics, which is 40% of the 783 00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:15,720 earth. And it's where all our moisture comes from, or almost 784 00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:20,010 all of it. And let me stop. Yeah. Who does these computer 785 00:50:20,010 --> 00:50:25,590 models, governments, there are 32 families of computer models 786 00:50:25,590 --> 00:50:28,890 that are used by the United Nations, each government 787 00:50:28,890 --> 00:50:36,690 sponsored. And all of them are predicting Far, far too much 788 00:50:36,690 --> 00:50:40,140 warming, the disparity between what's been predicted to happen, 789 00:50:40,140 --> 00:50:44,190 which looks like this. And what is happening continues to grow. 790 00:50:44,220 --> 00:50:47,070 We know that for a fact. Yeah, you can, because you can just 791 00:50:47,070 --> 00:50:50,430 look at the weather balloon temperatures, you can look at 792 00:50:50,430 --> 00:50:53,280 the satellite temperatures, you can look at something called the 793 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,640 reanalysis data, they all behave in concert. So they're showing 794 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,060 the same thing. And the same thing is a lot different than 795 00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:04,440 this thing. However, one model works. And you know what it is? 796 00:51:04,770 --> 00:51:08,310 It's the Russian model. So let me get this. So all the 797 00:51:08,310 --> 00:51:10,080 government models are like this. Yeah. 798 00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:12,570 The Russian model is like this 799 00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:15,660 Russia model as the least warming in it, and the Russia 800 00:51:15,660 --> 00:51:19,050 model is the least warming. And the Russia model pretty much 801 00:51:19,050 --> 00:51:22,290 follows reality. Yeah. What's been tested over a few decades? 802 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,520 Yeah. Correct. You know, if we were rational about this, think 803 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,590 about the daily weather forecasts, you know, you watch 804 00:51:28,590 --> 00:51:31,800 The Weather Channel, all this model says that that model says 805 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,010 that we think this one's working the best. So we're going to rely 806 00:51:35,010 --> 00:51:39,210 on that. Well, for climate forecasts, we should be using 807 00:51:39,210 --> 00:51:43,590 the Russian model, but we're not we use this big spate of all the 808 00:51:43,590 --> 00:51:46,800 other models that have this warming in them that's not 809 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,370 occurring. Why are all these other government models? 31 of 810 00:51:50,370 --> 00:51:50,610 them are 811 00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:56,640 wrong, and why do they all go in the same direction? up? Because 812 00:51:57,060 --> 00:52:01,920 they are what is called parameterised? That they're all 813 00:52:01,950 --> 00:52:05,370 parameterised. Can I translate parameterize into English 814 00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:09,570 fudged? Okay? The don't get the right answer don't know the 815 00:52:09,570 --> 00:52:14,610 right answer for certain phenomena. So we essentially put 816 00:52:14,610 --> 00:52:20,100 in code steps that give us what we think it should be. And the 817 00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:24,930 systematic error that was made was, the models were tuned, as 818 00:52:24,930 --> 00:52:29,640 it said, tuned, tuned to simulate the warming of the 819 00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:36,090 early 20th century began in 1910. And in 1945, about point 820 00:52:36,090 --> 00:52:40,410 four five degrees Celsius mark, that could not have been caused 821 00:52:40,410 --> 00:52:43,980 by carbon dioxide, because there wasn't that we had to put enough 822 00:52:43,980 --> 00:52:47,910 in that the background carbon dioxide concentrations 280 parts 823 00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:51,030 per million. When the second first warming started, it was 824 00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:55,830 298 parts per million. If the atmosphere is that sensitive to 825 00:52:55,830 --> 00:53:00,060 an 18 ppm change in co2. We wouldn't be talking about this 826 00:53:00,060 --> 00:53:03,660 right now. We'd be sweating bullets. pollen counts across 827 00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:07,710 the country are exploding 30% of the country tonight is in the 828 00:53:07,710 --> 00:53:12,000 medium high range. The areas in red here on your screen are 829 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,510 where it's worst. Errol Barnett reports from North Carolina, 830 00:53:15,870 --> 00:53:19,020 when an annual Rite of Spring collided with an incoming 831 00:53:19,020 --> 00:53:22,770 thunderstorm in North Carolina recently, the pictures look like 832 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,150 Armageddon. Or Paul mageddon as photographer Jeremy Gilchrist 833 00:53:27,150 --> 00:53:30,720 described his drone footage showing tree pollen hovering in 834 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:35,460 the atmosphere. It left a thick yellow pollen film, everything 835 00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:39,870 outside coated by the male flower seed. So doctor, these 836 00:53:39,870 --> 00:53:42,780 are the culprits right now. Anyway, yeah, these are the bad 837 00:53:42,780 --> 00:53:45,990 actors you see. So sort of the tallest ones their big towering 838 00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:50,220 pine trees. A recent study analyzed pollen data from 17 839 00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:54,090 locations across the globe and found that climate change may be 840 00:53:54,090 --> 00:53:58,440 making things worse. allergists Dr. David Fitts you know, as we 841 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,850 see, climate change evolving, holiday seasons tend to start 842 00:54:02,850 --> 00:54:06,690 earlier, they tend to last longer, and the absolute pollen 843 00:54:06,690 --> 00:54:09,780 counts are much higher. Last week, the pollen count in North 844 00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:13,920 Carolina was the highest of the year at more than 3200 grains 845 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,970 per cubic meter of air are very high. And this video from 846 00:54:17,970 --> 00:54:21,270 Tennessee shows just how much pollen is visible throughout the 847 00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:25,230 South. That's bad news for the more than 50 million Americans 848 00:54:25,230 --> 00:54:30,930 with seasonal allergies. you address the UN recently. Yeah, 849 00:54:30,930 --> 00:54:34,860 you did. What are you shocked you did you were there? I think 850 00:54:34,860 --> 00:54:38,040 so. Yeah, it was that was quite an honor. What were you talking 851 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,970 about climate change. And it was about the fact that we've been 852 00:54:41,970 --> 00:54:45,030 talking about climate change for 20 years is time to stop talking 853 00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:49,950 about and do something about it. So urgency was a theme in 854 00:54:49,950 --> 00:54:55,170 speaking why there's still deniers. Well you can use you 855 00:54:55,170 --> 00:54:59,610 can answer that as well as I can look at the weather tonight. If 856 00:54:59,610 --> 00:55:01,830 you belong To a certain group of people that are afraid of 857 00:55:01,830 --> 00:55:04,380 change, which I think some people are, and so they're going 858 00:55:04,380 --> 00:55:08,370 to deny change when it happens. So they just deny but it but it 859 00:55:08,370 --> 00:55:11,910 isn't even isn't it obvious that with long ladies to you and to 860 00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:14,370 me, but and probably it's to them, but they don't want to 861 00:55:14,370 --> 00:55:17,280 admit it, because it means they're gonna have to accept 862 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,530 change, or they got to give up something. But I don't know what 863 00:55:19,530 --> 00:55:22,380 the deal is. What do you think of Obama's Clean Power Plan? 864 00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:27,360 Well, I like his plan. I mean, I think, look, it's it's puzzling, 865 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,330 because he doing so many great things, things I really do 866 00:55:30,330 --> 00:55:34,020 support. When it comes to the Arctic drilling, and I can't put 867 00:55:34,020 --> 00:55:37,020 that one together. I just can't put that one together. Because 868 00:55:37,020 --> 00:55:39,330 if once you start that, you know, once you drill in the 869 00:55:39,330 --> 00:55:42,780 Arctic, you're looking at the end game, I think. And so that's 870 00:55:42,780 --> 00:55:45,120 puzzling to me, because he's doing so many good things, which 871 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,880 I totally support. And then something like that comes 872 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,520 around, you say, well, what's going on? I it's kind of hard to 873 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:51,240 figure out. 874 00:55:51,780 --> 00:55:53,700 Are you endorsing someone for president? 875 00:55:54,090 --> 00:55:57,570 Yes, I have just decided to endorse my longtime friend, 876 00:55:58,350 --> 00:56:00,630 Senator Clinton, I think that Bernie Sanders is over 877 00:56:00,630 --> 00:56:04,800 promising. He's insensitive to the plight of black people. And 878 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,220 what good is if you don't take lobbyist money, and you don't 879 00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:13,410 acknowledge the number one threat to America into the world 880 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,710 is the factory farming lobby, because it is poisoning the 881 00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:21,180 planet quickly. And it is poor, it is poisoning its inhabitants. 882 00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:25,770 So that the shift has to be made away from the animal product 883 00:56:25,770 --> 00:56:29,400 away from the beef industry, specifically, but all the animal 884 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,270 products into a plant based diet, or there will be no 885 00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:35,820 planet. And in the next 50 years, we won't even have an 886 00:56:35,820 --> 00:56:39,030 ocean. And when the oceans die, we die. So we must change the 887 00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:41,880 rate at which we consume animals. And we cannot have a 888 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,720 lobbyist take advantage of all our natural resources in order 889 00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:48,180 to poison the planet. And its people. I asked him about it. 890 00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:52,140 And he was he brushed it off, even though he knows that you're 891 00:56:52,140 --> 00:56:56,370 earthquake. And certainly all of these storms are a result of 892 00:56:56,370 --> 00:56:59,460 factory farming. We now have all the proof in the world, that 893 00:56:59,490 --> 00:57:02,580 fact that climate change is man made, and we have to do 894 00:57:02,580 --> 00:57:07,350 something to derail it. So, aside from his insensitivity to 895 00:57:07,350 --> 00:57:08,340 black voters, 896 00:57:08,370 --> 00:57:10,710 do you really think Bernie Sanders is insensitive to the 897 00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:11,460 needs of the black? 898 00:57:12,330 --> 00:57:17,340 agenda? Yes, he's insensitive in in a number of ways. And I would 899 00:57:17,340 --> 00:57:20,610 get into it if we had time. But I think setting the Clinton has 900 00:57:20,610 --> 00:57:25,110 been sensitive, supportive of progressive agenda. She's 901 00:57:25,110 --> 00:57:29,700 realistic in what she can get done. She, she's able to beat 902 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,240 the Republican candidate. And I think that Bernie Sanders would 903 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,750 not be able to, could lose. And I don't want to take that 904 00:57:36,750 --> 00:57:41,580 chance. Is it correct, that the satellite data over the last 18 905 00:57:41,580 --> 00:57:44,370 years demonstrate no significant warming? 906 00:57:45,870 --> 00:57:48,480 No. How is it incorrect? 907 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,030 based upon our experts, it's been refuted long ago. And 908 00:57:54,030 --> 00:57:58,470 there's no long it's not up for a scientific debate. I'm curious 909 00:57:58,470 --> 00:58:02,280 if it's so it's, I want to understand this. I do find it 910 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,620 highly interesting that the President of the Sierra Club 911 00:58:04,620 --> 00:58:08,760 when when asked what the satellite data demonstrate about 912 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,440 warming, apparently is relying on staff so So 913 00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:19,770 the nice thing about the satellite data is these are 914 00:58:19,770 --> 00:58:23,970 objective numbers. Correct? And the numbers over the last 18 915 00:58:23,970 --> 00:58:26,370 years, you're familiar with the phrase the pause? 916 00:58:31,050 --> 00:58:34,620 The answer is yes. And essentially, we rest on our 917 00:58:34,620 --> 00:58:37,770 position and to what you said you are familiar with the pause. 918 00:58:37,770 --> 00:58:41,550 So to what does the phrase the pause, refer? I'm sorry, you 919 00:58:41,550 --> 00:58:44,310 said you were familiar with that term. So I asked to what does it 920 00:58:44,310 --> 00:58:44,820 refer 921 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,350 essentially as a slowing in global warming during the 40. 922 00:58:49,350 --> 00:58:51,510 Sir, during the 40s? 923 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,060 Is it not the term that the global warming alarmist have 924 00:58:57,060 --> 00:59:03,210 used to explain the Inconvenient Truth? To use a phrase 925 00:59:03,210 --> 00:59:06,450 popularized by former Vice President Al Gore, that the 926 00:59:06,450 --> 00:59:10,620 satellite data over the last 18 years demonstrate no significant 927 00:59:10,620 --> 00:59:14,820 warming whatsoever? global warming alarmists call that the 928 00:59:14,820 --> 00:59:19,860 pause. Because the computer models say there should be 929 00:59:19,860 --> 00:59:23,340 dramatic warming. And yet the actual satellites taking the 930 00:59:23,340 --> 00:59:27,600 measurement, don't show any significant warming, whatsoever 931 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,310 to 97% of the scientists concur and agree that there is global 932 00:59:32,310 --> 00:59:35,580 warming and anthropogenic impact with our doors. The problem with 933 00:59:35,580 --> 00:59:38,970 that statistic that gets cited a lot is it's based on one bogus 934 00:59:38,970 --> 00:59:43,410 study. And indeed your response. I would point out your response 935 00:59:44,430 --> 00:59:48,210 is quite striking. I asked about the science and the evidence, 936 00:59:48,210 --> 00:59:50,730 the actual data, we have satellites, they're measuring 937 00:59:50,730 --> 00:59:55,770 temperature, that should be relevant and your answer was Pay 938 00:59:55,770 --> 00:59:59,970 no attention to your lying eyes and the numbers that the sad 939 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,320 lightshow instead, listen to the scientists who are receiving 940 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:11,460 massive grants who tell us Do not debate the science. Today 941 01:00:11,490 --> 01:00:15,000 was France's hottest day on record temperatures there 942 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:20,370 reached over 114 degrees. A heatwave from Sub Saharan Africa 943 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,940 has spread across large parts of Europe all week. This system 944 01:00:23,940 --> 01:00:29,550 spans from the UK to Italy to the Czech Republic. In Berlin, 945 01:00:29,610 --> 01:00:33,660 police deployed water cannons to salvage dying grass and trees. 946 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,650 in Catalonia, firefighters struggled to control a wildfire 947 01:00:37,650 --> 01:00:42,210 under scorching temperatures. Tonight, Paris was baking as the 948 01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:46,470 US women's soccer team defeated France at the World Cup. While 949 01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:49,350 it's difficult to attribute any particular weather event to 950 01:00:49,350 --> 01:00:53,160 climate change, there's growing evidence that climate change is 951 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,910 changing the way the jet stream flows, and that can make these 952 01:00:56,910 --> 01:01:00,720 events worse. Michael Mann is an atmospheric scientist at Penn 953 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,830 State University this extreme heat is is due to the fact that 954 01:01:04,860 --> 01:01:08,580 we're seeing these really large wiggles in the jet stream, the 955 01:01:08,580 --> 01:01:12,180 jet stream slowing down so these high and low pressure systems 956 01:01:12,180 --> 01:01:14,520 get stuck in place and where you get one of these high pressure 957 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,640 systems stuck in place like we saw last year in California you 958 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,690 get extreme heat. 959 01:01:19,140 --> 01:01:23,370 Ken bell of San Marcos, Texas, the heat wave and floods came as 960 01:01:23,370 --> 01:01:26,490 protests against the fossil fuel companies largely responsible 961 01:01:26,490 --> 01:01:29,010 for climate change faced protests across the United 962 01:01:29,010 --> 01:01:32,250 States. On Sunday in Santa Barbara, California residents 963 01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:35,970 protested a major oil spill, which has killed wildlife and 964 01:01:35,970 --> 01:01:39,060 soiled beaches in Bellingham, Washington to protesters 965 01:01:39,060 --> 01:01:42,510 suspended themselves from the anchor chain of a ship to oppose 966 01:01:42,660 --> 01:01:46,890 shows plans to drill for oil in the Arctic grr DeAngelo hung 967 01:01:46,890 --> 01:01:49,650 from the anchor of the Arctic challenger from Friday till 968 01:01:49,650 --> 01:01:52,770 Monday morning, while fellow protester Matt fuller joins her 969 01:01:52,770 --> 01:01:55,710 for 22 hours on Saturday and Sunday. Meanwhile, the 970 01:01:55,710 --> 01:02:00,270 University of Hawaii has voted to divest at 600 its $66 million 971 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,530 endowment from fossil fuels, becoming the largest university 972 01:02:04,530 --> 01:02:07,320 to heed the growing divestment movement to date. 973 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,130 I've often heard it said that there is a consensus of 1000s of 974 01:02:11,130 --> 01:02:14,220 scientists on the global warming issue and the humans are causing 975 01:02:14,220 --> 01:02:18,000 a catastrophic change to the climate system. Well, I am one 976 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,730 scientist and there are many that simply think that is not 977 01:02:20,730 --> 01:02:24,810 true. manmade global warming is no ordinary scientific theory. 978 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,700 This morning, the Intergovernmental Panel on 979 01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:29,700 Climate Change made up it is presented in the media as having 980 01:02:29,700 --> 01:02:32,610 the stamp of authority of an impressive international 981 01:02:32,610 --> 01:02:36,960 organization from the IPCC, the United Nations Intergovernmental 982 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:42,720 Panel on Climate Change, or IPCC, the IPCC, like any human 983 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:47,430 body is political. The final conclusions are politically 984 01:02:47,430 --> 01:02:55,080 driven. This claim that the IPCC is the world's top 1500 or 2500. 985 01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:58,830 Scientists, you look at the bibliographies of the people. 986 01:02:58,830 --> 01:03:01,830 And it's simply not true, there are quite a number of non 987 01:03:01,830 --> 01:03:05,550 scientists and to build the number up to 2500. They have to 988 01:03:05,550 --> 01:03:09,240 start taking reviewers and government people and so on 989 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,530 anyone who ever came close to them. And none of them are asked 990 01:03:13,650 --> 01:03:18,330 to agree. Many of them disagree those people who are 991 01:03:18,330 --> 01:03:22,500 specialists, but don't agree with the polemic, and resign and 992 01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:26,370 there have been a number that I know of. They are simply put on 993 01:03:26,370 --> 01:03:30,300 the author list and become part of this 2500 of the world's top 994 01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:33,120 scientists, people have decided you have to convince other 995 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,780 people that since no scientist disagrees, you shouldn't 996 01:03:36,780 --> 01:03:37,890 disagree, either. 997 01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:41,610 But that whenever you hear that in science, that's pure 998 01:03:41,610 --> 01:03:42,450 propaganda. 999 01:03:44,070 --> 01:03:47,340 I'm going to show my move by donation to no agenda. Imagine 1000 01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:50,040 all the people who could do Oh Yeah, that'd be fun. 1001 01:03:57,510 --> 01:04:00,660 I don't want to say too much but we got we got the best clips 1002 01:04:01,170 --> 01:04:06,120 that we had a lot of clips. This show has been is built on a 1003 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:10,980 house of clips. Clip so I like that a lot. House of clips. 1004 01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:16,470 Yeah, totally. It's, it's outrageous. When you really put 1005 01:04:16,470 --> 01:04:20,580 it all together like that, and you hear it. You're right. It 1006 01:04:20,580 --> 01:04:24,450 just sounds like normal, sane people are saying some kind of 1007 01:04:24,660 --> 01:04:29,970 normal stuff, and everyone else is insane. Yeah, the insanity 1008 01:04:29,970 --> 01:04:32,790 comes through. It's, I don't know what to make of it, but 1009 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,420 it's kind of pathetic. It doesn't get any better. In the 1010 01:04:36,420 --> 01:04:38,490 second half, which I should mention, because we do have a 1011 01:04:38,490 --> 01:04:41,100 donation segment we can do because the Donate donators will 1012 01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:45,570 be all pushed to show 1338 Can anyone who's donated to the show 1013 01:04:45,570 --> 01:04:48,750 will be hearing about it on 1338 Well, now I'm donation segment 1014 01:04:48,750 --> 01:04:52,230 if someone does a elite donation which we're missing, which is 1015 01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:55,110 sad, but well, that'll be the next show. That's what I'm gonna 1016 01:04:55,110 --> 01:04:58,890 say. Okay, so what but it'll be the newsletter. We'll put it 1017 01:04:58,890 --> 01:05:02,100 into delete donate. Coming up for the next show. Oh, and that 1018 01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:07,140 also could be read out all the lead donors on show 1338. So we 1019 01:05:07,140 --> 01:05:10,170 appreciate that. Yeah, hopefully we'll get a bunch of those. 1020 01:05:11,340 --> 01:05:14,490 Everyone wanted to be a producer on leads for sure. And we 1021 01:05:14,490 --> 01:05:18,960 appreciate you making producers. And we're gonna say we really 1022 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,990 appreciate the support. And in particular, the support that we 1023 01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:26,160 can go and get a little head to headspace cleaned at least is 1024 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,100 for me, I'm speaking on my behalf. I need to rest I need to 1025 01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:33,150 unplug. I really don't intend to be communicating much. I'm just 1026 01:05:33,150 --> 01:05:37,920 going to go. I just want to I know you're you're collecting 1027 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:38,730 clips from 1028 01:05:41,070 --> 01:05:43,560 Waco, I think, yes. 1029 01:05:46,110 --> 01:05:46,770 Temple. 1030 01:05:49,710 --> 01:05:53,340 That's where we're going. How was San Antonio, I gotta tell 1031 01:05:53,340 --> 01:05:55,830 you, Galveston is beautiful. This 1032 01:05:57,450 --> 01:06:03,030 is actually all right. So please remember us in case you forgot 1033 01:06:03,030 --> 01:06:07,050 that if you'd like to support us, either directly for for the 1034 01:06:07,050 --> 01:06:09,690 shows with the show number executive or associate executive 1035 01:06:09,690 --> 01:06:12,570 producer ship. Or if you want to get on one of our programs, 1036 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:19,200 boomerang.org slash and a man, I think we can go into Part Two 1037 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,820 now. Part Two, here we go. 1038 01:06:23,550 --> 01:06:24,270 I just 1039 01:06:24,270 --> 01:06:25,830 don't know if they're gonna do anything. 1040 01:06:26,459 --> 01:06:30,569 And I just, I'm so concerned with the fact that if they're 1041 01:06:30,569 --> 01:06:32,909 not going to change anything, then what's gonna happen to 1042 01:06:33,629 --> 01:06:36,869 humankind, what's gonna happen to out what's gonna happen to 1043 01:06:36,869 --> 01:06:37,709 the whole world. 1044 01:06:38,940 --> 01:06:45,000 If no one does anything, let me be very blunt about this. Coal 1045 01:06:45,450 --> 01:06:49,590 represents perhaps the greatest challenge to Canada or to the 1046 01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:55,680 world not meeting its climate change targets. Unless we reduce 1047 01:06:55,890 --> 01:06:59,850 coal consumption, we are not going to be able to create 1048 01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,600 create catastrophic global warming. But what we do know the 1049 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:08,250 two largest impacts on temperature, are the El Ninos in 1050 01:07:08,250 --> 01:07:13,410 the Pacific, as well as volcanic eruptions, which shade the earth 1051 01:07:13,410 --> 01:07:17,910 when they put the dust and smoke in the stratosphere. So once you 1052 01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:20,610 account for both of those, there's not a whole lot of 1053 01:07:20,610 --> 01:07:24,000 warming in the planet, the conclusion we have reached is 1054 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,620 that the world the global climate is not very sensitive to 1055 01:07:28,620 --> 01:07:34,080 carbon dioxide. And that can be that can occur if the climate 1056 01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:41,640 responds in its many facets, to release heat, when you add the 1057 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:46,200 heat from carbon dioxide, so carbon dioxide does allow more 1058 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:50,910 heat to be retained in the system, the climate system, but 1059 01:07:50,910 --> 01:07:54,990 the climate system also has many ways to allow an increased 1060 01:07:55,050 --> 01:07:58,650 release of heat to space. And so we think that's what's going on 1061 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,800 that there are feedbacks that are allowing that heat to escape 1062 01:08:01,830 --> 01:08:06,240 and not accumulate the way models have indicated. You will 1063 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:10,680 see our capital city flooded to the top of the buses. You will 1064 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:15,210 see houses smashed to Flinders and boats thrown up onto the 1065 01:08:15,210 --> 01:08:15,690 land. 1066 01:08:18,180 --> 01:08:21,960 That was with a see 10 inches below what we have now. 1067 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:30,600 And every responsible scientist tells us the risk of worse and 1068 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,380 bigger ocean storms has increased because of the 1069 01:08:34,380 --> 01:08:35,400 emission of carbons. 1070 01:08:35,730 --> 01:08:40,980 Climate change, climate change era threat. How many years do we 1071 01:08:40,980 --> 01:08:43,620 have? Excuse me? Do you guys have a moment to talk about 1072 01:08:43,620 --> 01:08:43,980 climate 1073 01:08:43,979 --> 01:08:44,339 change? 1074 01:08:44,369 --> 01:08:47,699 we polled kids across Canada and ask them to recollection issues 1075 01:08:47,699 --> 01:08:52,349 in order of priority 74% rights, climate change is the issue most 1076 01:08:52,349 --> 01:08:54,869 important to them. climate scientists are now saying we 1077 01:08:54,869 --> 01:08:58,649 only have 12 years left after if we want to avoid catastrophic 1078 01:08:58,649 --> 01:09:02,099 damage. That's why we're lobbying the federal government 1079 01:09:02,099 --> 01:09:04,499 to lower the voting age from 18 to eight. 1080 01:09:17,610 --> 01:09:21,420 If we were scared, we can learn. 1081 01:09:28,230 --> 01:09:30,840 I can vote and then I can't. 1082 01:09:33,390 --> 01:09:34,740 These kids are not here to 1083 01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:37,080 let the kids 1084 01:09:38,579 --> 01:09:41,339 let the kids vote. let kids voice 1085 01:09:43,140 --> 01:09:44,160 the kids. 1086 01:09:47,069 --> 01:09:50,489 What's absolutely clear about climate change is that it's a 1087 01:09:50,669 --> 01:09:55,949 it's a big problem and it's urgent. And we all absolutely 1088 01:09:55,949 --> 01:10:00,269 need to do something about it. But yeah, what so what There's 1089 01:10:00,269 --> 01:10:05,249 no there's no absolute certainty over the over the over the 1090 01:10:05,249 --> 01:10:08,369 timescales. Sometimes we've been hearing recently about a 12 year 1091 01:10:08,369 --> 01:10:11,249 timescale. And in some ways that's useful to think about. 1092 01:10:11,579 --> 01:10:16,559 But nobody really knows whether whether 10 years might be a 1093 01:10:16,559 --> 01:10:19,289 timescale that we've got before something really nasty. We've 1094 01:10:19,349 --> 01:10:24,119 thought before we start tipping a feedback mechanism that makes 1095 01:10:24,209 --> 01:10:27,149 quite nasty things happening in our climate, or whether we've 1096 01:10:27,149 --> 01:10:30,419 got 15 years or whether we've already gone over that tipping 1097 01:10:30,419 --> 01:10:30,749 point. 1098 01:10:31,169 --> 01:10:34,499 For French wine won't be flowing quite so freely this year 1099 01:10:34,499 --> 01:10:38,009 climate change, making sure of that the world's number two wine 1100 01:10:38,009 --> 01:10:41,069 producer has seen its crop shrink due to extreme weather, 1101 01:10:41,069 --> 01:10:45,419 some farmers have lost 85% of their harvest due to frosty 1102 01:10:45,419 --> 01:10:49,109 weather. Not quite the chill shabbily that wine connoisseurs 1103 01:10:49,109 --> 01:10:52,559 had in mind, so much to get into more coming up later on. 1104 01:10:52,559 --> 01:10:55,529 But do you just very quickly do both despair about the fact that 1105 01:10:55,529 --> 01:10:58,559 this is you know, in America, there's a certain strain of 1106 01:10:58,589 --> 01:11:01,229 evangelical thinking, which says this is not happening because 1107 01:11:01,229 --> 01:11:04,529 God would not let this happen. And it's not just a minority 1108 01:11:04,529 --> 01:11:08,399 report. These people are in the White House, in in, you know, in 1109 01:11:08,639 --> 01:11:13,259 in Rational terms. Do we need a new president for the planet? 1110 01:11:13,709 --> 01:11:14,009 Well, it's 1111 01:11:14,010 --> 01:11:17,220 your dad's obsession, isn't it? He's got panels on the roof, the 1112 01:11:17,220 --> 01:11:18,600 grizzly electric car. 1113 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:23,640 Is he mad? No, because it will help the, it will help the world 1114 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,520 from global warming. Do you think so? Yeah. 1115 01:11:26,730 --> 01:11:27,960 Do you agree with all this? 1116 01:11:28,050 --> 01:11:30,510 Yes, I do. Okay, okay. Well, the 1117 01:11:30,510 --> 01:11:33,060 thing is, your your house is the only one in the street with 1118 01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:36,540 solar panels on isn't it? So what difference is this making? 1119 01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:40,980 It helps a lot from global warming. So we need to get other 1120 01:11:40,980 --> 01:11:44,250 people to do this. Yeah. So how do you how'd you get other 1121 01:11:44,250 --> 01:11:48,540 people to do it? We talked to them, and we let them know the 1122 01:11:48,540 --> 01:11:49,500 consequences of it. 1123 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,350 Do you really walk around school saying boy go green? 1124 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,430 Well, that's what we need to do. Okay. Yes, yeah. Yeah. All 1125 01:11:56,430 --> 01:11:59,190 right. All right. And so you too, as I understand it, 1126 01:11:59,219 --> 01:12:02,069 I've never been on a plane. There's not even a propeller 1127 01:12:02,069 --> 01:12:02,429 plane, 1128 01:12:02,610 --> 01:12:08,850 or an a glider. Why do you think that is? Because the fumes from 1129 01:12:08,850 --> 01:12:11,850 the plane, pollute the world? And where do your friends go on 1130 01:12:11,850 --> 01:12:15,960 holiday? Well, my friends usually go to like Tunis, you're 1131 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:22,770 in Mexico, on planes. Sounds great. Yeah, where do you go? We 1132 01:12:22,770 --> 01:12:25,950 usually go to France and Germany and places like 1133 01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:27,480 that. Right? So you're not flying? Do you feel you're 1134 01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:28,440 missing out at all? 1135 01:12:29,340 --> 01:12:33,360 Not really, but because it's quite good as it's not polluting 1136 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:38,010 the world, how much of it is some cyclical geologic history? 1137 01:12:38,490 --> 01:12:41,100 And even if the contribution we're making is just the one 1138 01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:43,770 straw that breaks the camel's back? Isn't that enough to get 1139 01:12:43,770 --> 01:12:45,960 you to want to curtail our behavior? I think that's 1140 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,110 actually a really good question. I'm glad you asked that. Because 1141 01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:52,350 people keep telling climate scientists like, oh, the 1142 01:12:52,350 --> 01:12:55,590 climates always changed. And we're like, we know, we told you 1143 01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:59,730 that. We are essentially the people who study that we figured 1144 01:12:59,730 --> 01:13:03,870 that out. What percentage of the warming right now are humans 1145 01:13:03,870 --> 01:13:09,540 responsible for over 100% humans are responsible for more than 1146 01:13:09,540 --> 01:13:12,330 all of the warming because if it wasn't for us, the Earth would 1147 01:13:12,330 --> 01:13:15,690 be cooling very slightly, it would be because of what the 1148 01:13:15,690 --> 01:13:18,810 sun's doing. The sun is getting ever so slightly weaker. So 1149 01:13:18,810 --> 01:13:22,260 yeah, if it wasn't for us, tiny variation in the sun's output 1150 01:13:22,260 --> 01:13:26,010 would be making it colder. And as Secretary Kerry has recently 1151 01:13:26,010 --> 01:13:30,540 noted, climate change can produce effects similar to those 1152 01:13:30,540 --> 01:13:32,670 of weapons of mass destruction. 1153 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,940 We know that climate change will affect 1154 01:13:35,970 --> 01:13:42,930 virtually every country on Earth, is after all gloma global 1155 01:13:42,930 --> 01:13:47,280 climate warming. Other nations around the world are also 1156 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,370 viewing this as a national security risk. As to your 1157 01:13:50,370 --> 01:13:53,850 governance piece that is part of the governance piece. The 1158 01:13:53,850 --> 01:13:56,580 American Security projects, surveyed every country in the 1159 01:13:56,580 --> 01:13:59,970 world and asked if climate change was included in their 1160 01:13:59,970 --> 01:14:05,040 national security strategies. And 70% of nations said that it 1161 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,940 was the development of LaGuardia Airport also goes to the issue 1162 01:14:08,940 --> 01:14:09,750 of climate change. 1163 01:14:09,810 --> 01:14:11,010 Absolutely no, we 1164 01:14:11,010 --> 01:14:15,870 have. We have we already are experiencing a two foot sea 1165 01:14:15,870 --> 01:14:20,550 level rise in our areas of near 14, which directly border 1166 01:14:20,580 --> 01:14:24,510 LaGuardia Airport. So we're already starting to see some 1167 01:14:24,510 --> 01:14:27,810 times flights get delayed because so much water and very 1168 01:14:27,810 --> 01:14:33,660 heavy storms is starting to kind of takeover these runways. These 1169 01:14:33,660 --> 01:14:37,470 areas of LaGuardia Airport are experiencing and going on are 1170 01:14:37,470 --> 01:14:41,880 going to be facing very extreme levels of sea level rises. And 1171 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,810 we need to figure out we need to figure out how we're going to 1172 01:14:45,810 --> 01:14:48,780 either protect the airport or how we're going to adjust 1173 01:14:49,260 --> 01:14:51,780 basically our infrastructure to accommodate for that 1174 01:14:51,930 --> 01:14:55,560 California's Governor Jerry Brown announcing late Friday in 1175 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,710 the face of global warming of climate change and of what he 1176 01:14:58,710 --> 01:15:01,470 calls the lack of a federal response that the state of 1177 01:15:01,470 --> 01:15:05,310 California is going to send its own satellite into orbit to trap 1178 01:15:05,490 --> 01:15:09,330 track the progress of climate change, which of course is 1179 01:15:09,330 --> 01:15:12,870 causing hurricanes to be stronger and more severe. I 1180 01:15:12,870 --> 01:15:15,570 talked to Jerry Brown at his global climate action summit 1181 01:15:15,570 --> 01:15:19,140 late Friday, a gathering of state, local and world leaders. 1182 01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:22,800 We're in the midst of hurricanes and the aftermath of hurricanes. 1183 01:15:22,830 --> 01:15:26,460 And you still have the president united states denying the 1184 01:15:26,460 --> 01:15:29,820 science of climate change. How do you counteract that? Well, 1185 01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:30,090 first 1186 01:15:30,089 --> 01:15:35,159 of all to say it's, it's really extraordinary that the President 1187 01:15:35,159 --> 01:15:38,939 can deny science like that. But he's in so much so many other 1188 01:15:40,650 --> 01:15:44,460 terror, what's the word I even have an adjective. So it's, 1189 01:15:44,460 --> 01:15:48,450 it's, it's bad. And how we counteract it is with his 1190 01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:54,090 climate summit with normal people, respecting the truth, 1191 01:15:54,330 --> 01:15:57,390 and communicating that with other normal people and 1192 01:15:57,390 --> 01:16:01,740 combating the president united states, in what are lies, 1193 01:16:01,980 --> 01:16:07,410 distortions, and quite frankly, bizarre behavior. So we have to 1194 01:16:07,410 --> 01:16:10,620 keep at it. And I'm glad you gave me a chance to answer your 1195 01:16:10,620 --> 01:16:14,400 question, because we can't say it enough. The President is just 1196 01:16:14,430 --> 01:16:18,360 wrong, Francisco alone, besides sea level rise from global 1197 01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,590 warming places at risk, $10 billion of public property and 1198 01:16:22,590 --> 01:16:26,310 as much as $39 billion of private property. And in fact, 1199 01:16:26,490 --> 01:16:29,280 the lawsuit demands the oil companies create an abatement 1200 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,910 fund in the billions of dollars to reimburse Oakland and San 1201 01:16:32,910 --> 01:16:36,960 Francisco for damage related to climate change. One of the great 1202 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:41,370 puzzles in climate science is why over the past 15 years, 1203 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:46,410 global warming, has paused. Now, one theory is that there's less 1204 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,640 output less energy reaching us from the sun. Another is that 1205 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,340 industrial pollution is reflecting some of that energy 1206 01:16:53,610 --> 01:16:57,270 back out into space. But perhaps the most plausible answer, in 1207 01:16:57,270 --> 01:17:02,220 the view of many sciences lies in the oceans. If the air isn't 1208 01:17:02,220 --> 01:17:07,290 warming up, maybe this vast body of water is, but it's quite a 1209 01:17:07,290 --> 01:17:10,470 job, trying to work out what's happening, we've got to remember 1210 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,490 that they are fleeing the deadliest countries on the face 1211 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:19,950 of the planet today, compounded by drought that was caused, not 1212 01:17:19,950 --> 01:17:24,840 by God, not by Mother Nature, but by us. manmade climate 1213 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,690 change, our emissions are excesses, our inaction in the 1214 01:17:27,690 --> 01:17:30,510 face of the facts and the science when it is that deadly 1215 01:17:30,540 --> 01:17:33,120 and when you're unable to grow your own food to feed yourself, 1216 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:37,590 you have no choice but to come here. I don't know. I'm just 1217 01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:42,030 telling myself lately. Everything seems so meaningless 1218 01:17:42,030 --> 01:17:44,940 and empty. Go on. 1219 01:17:46,290 --> 01:17:49,320 Well, I know planets getting hotter and hotter. And I know 1220 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:53,580 we're gonna have forest fires and droughts and floods, like 1221 01:17:53,580 --> 01:17:56,910 you've never seen, we're gonna have storms and hurricanes and 1222 01:17:56,940 --> 01:18:01,800 species are disappearing. Sometimes I just want to close 1223 01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,770 my eyes. And pretend it's not happening. 1224 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:07,410 That's better. 1225 01:18:08,850 --> 01:18:11,610 Maybe I'm fine. Maybe it's nothing. Maybe this whole 1226 01:18:11,610 --> 01:18:16,350 climate change fiasco was just some sort of scam or government 1227 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:17,940 scare tactic. 1228 01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:25,230 Man, I hope so. What's happening to me? It sounds to me like 1229 01:18:25,230 --> 01:18:29,310 you're suffering from grief. Climate change, grief. 1230 01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:34,950 Climate change grief. I mean, that's not even a thing. That is 1231 01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:39,660 a thing. And you are struggling with the first of five stages of 1232 01:18:39,660 --> 01:18:43,500 grief, denial, denial. 1233 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,450 I don't believe it. You see, that's what I'm talking about. 1234 01:18:49,710 --> 01:18:52,860 Here's what I want you to do. When you leave this office, 1235 01:18:52,980 --> 01:18:55,740 you're going to go and confront denial head on. 1236 01:18:57,750 --> 01:19:03,300 Okay. All right. session is over. I don't miss each other 1237 01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:07,770 again next week. Okay. Have a good weekend. Dr. 1238 01:19:07,770 --> 01:19:13,350 Schwarzenegger. hasta lavista. Billy? Well, media 1239 01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:16,890 organizations, including NPR have pointed out the connection 1240 01:19:16,890 --> 01:19:20,730 between the polar vortex in the Midwest and climate change. I 1241 01:19:20,730 --> 01:19:23,640 noticed on a network news show which are often criticized for 1242 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,000 not making that connection to climate change, David, how have 1243 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,200 news organizations evolved in connecting these extreme weather 1244 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:35,070 stories to the overall trend of climate change. CBS This Morning 1245 01:19:35,070 --> 01:19:37,770 are no fools in acknowledging that role. You've seen they're 1246 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:42,690 sort of increasing efforts by scientists and some journalists 1247 01:19:42,690 --> 01:19:45,480 with specialty in the area to incorporate that as the science 1248 01:19:45,480 --> 01:19:49,470 seems to be clearer about not just the fact that the that man 1249 01:19:49,470 --> 01:19:52,230 made emissions and carbon and the warming of the environment 1250 01:19:52,260 --> 01:19:55,770 are present having an effect, but that you can start to make 1251 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,770 connection to individual events. And so you're starting to hear 1252 01:19:58,770 --> 01:20:03,300 that that is a change. used to see particularly meteorologists 1253 01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:06,960 on TVs, especially local, but also national TV really resist 1254 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,360 talking about climate, they're going to say we're talking about 1255 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,870 weather, climate is global climate is a whole different 1256 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,780 layer there, it's too unpredictable. Heck, we have 1257 01:20:15,780 --> 01:20:18,390 trouble predicting more than 10 days out. And what you've seen 1258 01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:20,580 is sort of a joining of meteorology and climate science 1259 01:20:20,580 --> 01:20:22,770 to say, yeah, these things are interconnected in a real way. 1260 01:20:22,980 --> 01:20:25,140 And therefore, you can start to see this in all kinds of 1261 01:20:25,140 --> 01:20:28,230 coverage from local TV, to you know, national newspapers. And 1262 01:20:28,230 --> 01:20:32,250 then there is Brian kilmeade, here on fox and friends on Fox 1263 01:20:32,250 --> 01:20:35,880 News listener. You know, it was true that climate change became 1264 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,860 climate change, when global warming wasn't adding up to 1265 01:20:37,860 --> 01:20:40,950 global warming, it was going very cold. And then people say 1266 01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:43,020 with those, the temperature went up a couple of degrees, they go, 1267 01:20:43,020 --> 01:20:46,050 look, change it, we're still using climate change. So anytime 1268 01:20:46,050 --> 01:20:50,340 there's a tornado, a typhoon a flood, what did I tell you? And 1269 01:20:50,340 --> 01:20:56,190 then their head starts the debate, David, what about that 1270 01:20:56,220 --> 01:20:59,820 have we got past that where where we can recognize that 1271 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:05,010 global warming is the overall trend, even if it means severe 1272 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,790 winter storms, what climate change really means is there's 1273 01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:11,430 global warming and the atmosphere is warming and all 1274 01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:13,410 kinds of other things are warming man at the same time, 1275 01:21:13,410 --> 01:21:17,670 it's calling out all kinds of weather, disruption and in you 1276 01:21:17,670 --> 01:21:21,300 know, spikes in variables in all directions. You know, the real 1277 01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:23,700 thing is, in some ways, the climate change became very much 1278 01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:26,910 part of the political that vernacular, in the 1990s, in 1279 01:21:26,910 --> 01:21:30,000 part as a result of newt gingrich, the Congress that came 1280 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,840 to power in 1995, in opposition to the Clinton White House 1281 01:21:33,870 --> 01:21:36,390 wanted to call it something that seemed less threatening than 1282 01:21:36,510 --> 01:21:40,260 global warming. And they focus group tested the phrase climate 1283 01:21:40,260 --> 01:21:42,750 change, and it seemed less threatening to people at a time 1284 01:21:42,750 --> 01:21:44,730 they're trying to hold down certain kinds of regulations. 1285 01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,780 My name is Elizabeth Curran, I'm Kenya resort and I live in 1286 01:21:51,780 --> 01:21:57,720 Winnipeg. Being a young person, when I find most concerning 1287 01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:02,580 about climate change, is that like animals can lose their 1288 01:22:02,580 --> 01:22:09,270 homes like polar bears if the ice melts. My name is Arthur I 1289 01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:14,280 am eight year and nine years old. I live 1290 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:16,920 by Louis. 1291 01:22:20,850 --> 01:22:27,930 bit scary cuz I live near the ocean. And glacier, then also 1292 01:22:27,930 --> 01:22:33,450 we'll make the water go close to my house. My name is Ben museo. 1293 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,090 I am 15. And I live in Montreal, Quebec. 1294 01:22:37,529 --> 01:22:39,989 I think that it's time for the governments to do big things. 1295 01:22:39,989 --> 01:22:43,829 But just because just because the government are doing big 1296 01:22:43,829 --> 01:22:46,919 things doesn't mean that people should stop doing small things 1297 01:22:47,339 --> 01:22:48,539 that everyone should just, 1298 01:22:49,890 --> 01:22:54,870 you know, without necessarily sacrificing everything yet. Just 1299 01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:59,490 do what they can to reduce the footprint and help us not be 1300 01:22:59,490 --> 01:22:59,940 doomed. 1301 01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:04,140 My name is myalgia stout. I'm 12 years old, and I live in 1302 01:23:04,140 --> 01:23:04,620 Winnipeg. 1303 01:23:06,330 --> 01:23:08,790 The thing that scares me the most of a climate change is 1304 01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:09,510 literally 1305 01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:10,170 everything. 1306 01:23:10,530 --> 01:23:15,120 It's terrifying. It's, it's kind of pushed to the side. And it's 1307 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,630 just not knowing anything about it is kind of what scares me 1308 01:23:18,630 --> 01:23:23,160 about it. And just knowing that it's gonna kill us. If we don't 1309 01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,860 do anything, which we're not doing anything. That's the scary 1310 01:23:25,860 --> 01:23:31,080 part to me. My name is Patrick. I'm 10 years old. And I was born 1311 01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:36,810 in China. But now I live in Vancouver. Young children will 1312 01:23:36,870 --> 01:23:44,940 experience far worse than the people living right now. Also 1313 01:23:44,940 --> 01:23:48,360 scares me that floods, hurricanes and other natural 1314 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:55,290 disasters are way more likely than in the past five years. I 1315 01:23:55,290 --> 01:23:59,430 think grownups should think that we actually shouldn't make an 1316 01:23:59,430 --> 01:24:02,610 impact and not just sit back and let it happen. 1317 01:24:20,010 --> 01:24:23,490 Well, a great example is the Victory Gardens. So during World 1318 01:24:23,490 --> 01:24:27,450 War 240 percent of American vegetables were grown at home in 1319 01:24:27,450 --> 01:24:31,800 the front and backyard, by the people that ate them, right. We 1320 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:37,530 can farm our lawns and have community farms were so which 1321 01:24:37,530 --> 01:24:42,120 increases, you know, local food security. And also, you know, 1322 01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:46,200 you don't have emissions from transportation, but more 1323 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:52,260 generally programs like transitioning industry, right so 1324 01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:58,110 the United States banned the production of new consumer 1325 01:24:58,110 --> 01:25:02,400 automobiles because they said We need all of that automobile 1326 01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:07,110 factory capacity to create our tanks and planes and machine 1327 01:25:07,110 --> 01:25:12,630 guns. And so no more no more consumer car production stop 1328 01:25:12,630 --> 01:25:15,210 period. Sorry. It's a fundamentally different 1329 01:25:15,210 --> 01:25:21,060 mentality. When you get into the mode of we faced an existential 1330 01:25:21,060 --> 01:25:25,200 threat, everything is on the line. And, you know, so the 1331 01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,810 government is going to do everything that it can, the 1332 01:25:27,810 --> 01:25:31,860 government should spend without limit to save as much life as 1333 01:25:31,860 --> 01:25:35,340 possible. My name is Deborah Halford. I'm the executive 1334 01:25:35,340 --> 01:25:38,940 director of the adaptation to climate change team at Simon 1335 01:25:38,940 --> 01:25:40,620 Fraser University in Vancouver. 1336 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:46,560 A low carbon resilient future is a beautiful one, a lot less 1337 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:51,990 noisy, polluting cars, filling up most of our urban downtown 1338 01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:57,570 areas, more parks, more areas for kids to play more places for 1339 01:25:57,570 --> 01:26:01,770 people to grow food, more shared spaces, more places where people 1340 01:26:01,770 --> 01:26:05,460 can come together and enjoy their environment. 1341 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,750 I heard a very interesting presentation from a woman who 1342 01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:12,960 works with small children recently. And so she asks them 1343 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,910 to draw, she says, if we carry on, and we're how we're living 1344 01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:21,270 in the world, what do you think the future looks like? And she 1345 01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:24,180 said that without fail, they draw a world 1346 01:26:28,980 --> 01:26:29,550 in which 1347 01:26:29,970 --> 01:26:33,180 everything's on fire, and everything is dead, and everyone 1348 01:26:33,180 --> 01:26:33,660 is sick. 1349 01:26:33,930 --> 01:26:37,290 Instead, I will ask the people around the world to realize that 1350 01:26:37,290 --> 01:26:40,470 our political leaders have failed us because we are facing 1351 01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:44,280 an existential threat. And there's no time to continue down 1352 01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:49,110 this road of madness. rich countries like Sweden, need to 1353 01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:54,300 start reducing emissions by at least 15% every year, to stay 1354 01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:57,060 below a two degree warming target, you would think the 1355 01:26:57,060 --> 01:26:59,850 media and every one of our leaders will be talking about 1356 01:26:59,850 --> 01:27:03,570 nothing else. But they never even mentioned it. Notice, 1357 01:27:03,570 --> 01:27:06,360 hardly anyone ever mentioned that we are in the midst of the 1358 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,770 sixth mass extinction, with up to 200 species going extinct 1359 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:11,940 every single day. 1360 01:27:12,540 --> 01:27:18,210 But emissions by let's say 30%. Without any. It's not like we'd 1361 01:27:18,210 --> 01:27:22,740 all have to go back to caves and you know, live off that on fire. 1362 01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:28,140 We could have electricity and smartphones and all that stuff. 1363 01:27:28,980 --> 01:27:32,460 Which would buy us probably another 2030 years for that 1364 01:27:32,490 --> 01:27:35,520 technological breakthrough. that's necessary. The reason we 1365 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,320 don't do it is because 1366 01:27:39,180 --> 01:27:41,100 we are still 1367 01:27:42,750 --> 01:27:44,670 confused, blind. 1368 01:27:46,260 --> 01:27:49,830 shrouded with pain, anger. 1369 01:27:51,239 --> 01:27:52,409 racism. 1370 01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:56,100 Mommy issues 1371 01:27:57,899 --> 01:27:58,889 Yeah, I'm in 1372 01:28:00,870 --> 01:28:07,500 it. We are we are fraught with stuff. 1373 01:28:09,210 --> 01:28:09,990 And 1374 01:28:11,670 --> 01:28:17,250 and so if that's the case, then the single most important thing 1375 01:28:17,250 --> 01:28:18,330 that we have to invest in 1376 01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:26,700 it is not all and look I'm a huge supporter of science and 1377 01:28:26,790 --> 01:28:29,400 technological research and social science and 1378 01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:37,380 evidence based learning and all that good stuff. I'm people call 1379 01:28:37,380 --> 01:28:40,950 me Spock for a reason. I believe in reason and logic and all 1380 01:28:40,950 --> 01:28:44,640 these enlightenment values. But the thing that really, we have 1381 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:49,860 to invest in is people. We got to get people to figure out how 1382 01:28:49,890 --> 01:28:51,120 they work together. 1383 01:28:52,770 --> 01:28:53,580 In a 1384 01:28:56,729 --> 01:28:59,939 how do we get people to work together in a cooperative, 1385 01:29:01,079 --> 01:29:02,909 thoughtful, constructive way. 1386 01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:07,020 on Capitol Hill police arrested 51 Youth climate activists 1387 01:29:07,020 --> 01:29:11,370 Tuesday, as they held a non violent sit in protest out 1388 01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:15,450 inside the Office of House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi 1389 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:20,550 demanding a green new deal and urgent action on climate change. 1390 01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:25,260 Philadelphia activists, Sophia ziaja of the sunrise movement 1391 01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:28,350 said she's compelled to act because of the historic 1392 01:29:28,350 --> 01:29:31,950 wildfires raging and Pelosi is home state of California. 1393 01:29:32,669 --> 01:29:36,779 Back in Nancy Pelosi, his home state 42 people were just burned 1394 01:29:36,809 --> 01:29:40,109 alive by wildfires that are described as fire tsunamis 1395 01:29:40,889 --> 01:29:45,059 literally do not know how to fight. And she's come to that 1396 01:29:45,059 --> 01:29:49,139 crisis with saying that she's going to revive a committee to 1397 01:29:49,139 --> 01:29:52,229 talk about evidence of climate change that maybe would have 1398 01:29:52,229 --> 01:29:56,759 been helpful back in 1968 when warned about climate change, but 1399 01:29:56,759 --> 01:29:59,969 then today is so so far from 1400 01:30:01,589 --> 01:30:05,039 A new study says global warming will cause a beer shortage 1401 01:30:05,039 --> 01:30:09,929 because barley is sensitive to extreme drought. And he could 1402 01:30:09,929 --> 01:30:13,109 not hope anymore that this study is wrong. A co author of the 1403 01:30:13,109 --> 01:30:15,959 study published Monday in the journal Nature plant said the 1404 01:30:15,959 --> 01:30:18,839 study is trying to show that climate change will impact your 1405 01:30:18,839 --> 01:30:24,029 quality of life. Is this the future of food? here in Silicon 1406 01:30:24,029 --> 01:30:27,419 Valley, scientists have taken cells plucked from the feathers 1407 01:30:27,419 --> 01:30:30,899 of a chicken. And we're using them to grow meat in this high 1408 01:30:30,899 --> 01:30:35,069 tech laboratory. Which means the chicken I'm about to eat is 1409 01:30:35,219 --> 01:30:40,709 weirdly still alive. So there we have it are just chicken 1410 01:30:40,709 --> 01:30:44,549 nuggets. With a little bit of Chipotle a ranch dipping sauce 1411 01:30:44,549 --> 01:30:48,479 there. Yeah, I'm gonna dip it in the sauce. Take a bite. It's 1412 01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:54,239 really tasty. It tastes like chicken. Chicken. Yeah. Although 1413 01:30:54,239 --> 01:30:58,109 the taste is very similar. The physicality the feel of it in 1414 01:30:58,109 --> 01:31:00,149 your mouth is slightly different. Right? And you know, 1415 01:31:00,149 --> 01:31:02,639 there are ways we can we can you know, work on getting that 1416 01:31:02,639 --> 01:31:06,089 together. I think, you know, there's, like I said, finding 1417 01:31:06,089 --> 01:31:09,299 things in the in the animal kingdom or 3d printing 1418 01:31:09,299 --> 01:31:11,759 scaffolding. So there's a lot of different ways we can do it. 1419 01:31:12,779 --> 01:31:15,929 This firm says its chicken will be on a restaurant menu by the 1420 01:31:15,929 --> 01:31:19,529 end of this year, probably somewhere in Asia. This is the 1421 01:31:19,529 --> 01:31:23,759 transition away from raising and confining animals in the way we 1422 01:31:23,759 --> 01:31:28,469 do. Now the reality is 99% of all the meat weed comes from 1423 01:31:28,469 --> 01:31:31,259 places that if we looked inside, we wouldn't be that proud of 1424 01:31:31,349 --> 01:31:34,829 meat production is just as responsible for carbon emissions 1425 01:31:34,829 --> 01:31:37,889 and climate change. As all the cars we have on the street 1426 01:31:37,889 --> 01:31:43,379 today. Will anyone actually want to reset, ranchers have concerns 1427 01:31:43,379 --> 01:31:47,309 to Missouri has already banned the use of the word meat to 1428 01:31:47,309 --> 01:31:51,869 label lab grown product. Whoa, whatever it's called, with 1429 01:31:51,869 --> 01:31:55,769 America's largest meat processor now investing in lab grown meat. 1430 01:31:56,039 --> 01:32:00,059 We may be about to see a new agricultural revolution. What is 1431 01:32:00,059 --> 01:32:03,239 the thing that worries you the most about climate? We've had 1432 01:32:03,239 --> 01:32:07,949 relatively stable climate, no ice ages, no hot spells. And 1433 01:32:07,949 --> 01:32:12,119 we've had these ice caps that have remained primarily in 1434 01:32:12,119 --> 01:32:16,349 Antarctica and Greenland. Oh my gosh, if you melt those ice 1435 01:32:16,349 --> 01:32:19,889 sheets in Greenland and Antarctica, the water levels 1436 01:32:19,889 --> 01:32:24,539 will rise and come to the level of the Statue of Liberty's 1437 01:32:24,539 --> 01:32:32,129 elbow. Okay. I am Karen Phillips wants to change climate then 1438 01:32:32,249 --> 01:32:35,789 read history. Go back a little bit read history has been 1439 01:32:35,789 --> 01:32:38,819 validated by the geology. It's been validated by so many 1440 01:32:38,819 --> 01:32:43,979 proxies. And what we see is climate always changes. I'm not 1441 01:32:43,979 --> 01:32:48,239 a climate denier. It's the people who want to have global 1442 01:32:48,239 --> 01:32:52,079 warming deny the climate changes. They deny what we have 1443 01:32:52,079 --> 01:32:56,969 known for 1000s of years climate always changes. Some people 1444 01:32:56,969 --> 01:33:01,139 evidently can still deny the reality is a little bit harder 1445 01:33:01,289 --> 01:33:06,539 to deny the 3000 deaths in Puerto Rico from Hurricane Maria 1446 01:33:06,539 --> 01:33:15,779 last year. Come on. How far down that rabbit hole are people 1447 01:33:15,779 --> 01:33:20,849 gonna follow? This is utter insanity. We have to wake up we 1448 01:33:20,849 --> 01:33:25,169 are alive in this moment. We are awake. I am a geologist and 1449 01:33:25,169 --> 01:33:28,709 geophysicist. I have a bachelor's degree in geology 1450 01:33:28,709 --> 01:33:32,519 from Indiana University, and a PhD in geophysics from the 1451 01:33:32,519 --> 01:33:37,559 University of Utah. My field of specialization in geophysics is 1452 01:33:37,559 --> 01:33:40,799 temperature and heat flow. In recent years, I've turned my 1453 01:33:40,799 --> 01:33:45,839 studies to the history and philosophy of science. In 1995, 1454 01:33:45,839 --> 01:33:49,829 I published a short paper in the academic journal Science. in 1455 01:33:49,829 --> 01:33:52,799 that study, I reviewed how borehole temperature data 1456 01:33:53,069 --> 01:33:57,269 recorded a warming of about one degree Celsius in North America 1457 01:33:57,449 --> 01:34:02,909 over the last 100 to 150 years. The week the article appeared, I 1458 01:34:02,909 --> 01:34:07,589 was contacted by a reporter for National Public Radio, he 1459 01:34:07,589 --> 01:34:11,399 offered to interview me, but only if I would say that the 1460 01:34:11,399 --> 01:34:15,269 warming was due to human activity. When I refuse to do so 1461 01:34:15,299 --> 01:34:20,009 he hung up on me. I had another interesting experience. Around 1462 01:34:20,009 --> 01:34:23,819 the time my paper in science was published. I received an 1463 01:34:23,819 --> 01:34:27,689 astonishing email from a major researcher in the area of 1464 01:34:27,689 --> 01:34:32,549 climate change. He said, quote, we have to get rid of the 1465 01:34:32,549 --> 01:34:36,959 medieval warm period, unquote. The medieval warm period was a 1466 01:34:36,959 --> 01:34:41,999 time of unusually warm weather that began around 1000 ad and 1467 01:34:41,999 --> 01:34:46,169 persisted until a cold period known as Little Ice Age to a 1468 01:34:46,169 --> 01:34:50,849 cold in the 14th century. warmer climate brought a remarkable 1469 01:34:50,849 --> 01:34:55,589 souring of prosperity, knowledge and art to Europe during the 1470 01:34:55,589 --> 01:34:56,609 high Middle Ages. 1471 01:34:58,140 --> 01:35:01,590 The existence of the middle of a war Period had been recognized 1472 01:35:01,590 --> 01:35:05,490 in the scientific literature for decades. But now it was a major 1473 01:35:05,490 --> 01:35:08,400 embarrassment. To those maintaining that the 20th 1474 01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:12,750 century warming was truly anomalous, had to quote the 1475 01:35:12,750 --> 01:35:18,330 garden reserve unquote. In 1769. Joseph Priestley warned the 1476 01:35:18,330 --> 01:35:21,960 scientists are really attached to a favorite hypothesis would 1477 01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:27,630 not hesitate to warp the whole course of nature. In 1999, 1478 01:35:27,630 --> 01:35:31,290 Michael Mian and his colleagues published a reconstruction of 1479 01:35:31,290 --> 01:35:34,680 past temperature in which the medieval warm period simply 1480 01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:38,880 vanished. This unique estimate became known as the hockey stick 1481 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:42,870 because of the shape of the temperature graph. Normally, in 1482 01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:46,650 science, when you have a novel result that appears to overturn 1483 01:35:46,650 --> 01:35:50,040 previous work, you have to demonstrate why the earlier work 1484 01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:54,810 was wrong. But the work of man and his colleagues was initially 1485 01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,900 accepted uncritically, even though it contradicted the 1486 01:35:57,900 --> 01:36:01,320 results of more than 100 previous studies. Other 1487 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,200 researchers have since reaffirmed that the medieval 1488 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:08,760 warm period was both warm and global in its extent. There is 1489 01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:12,180 an overwhelming bias today in the media regarding the issue of 1490 01:36:12,180 --> 01:36:15,990 global warming. In the past two years, this bias has bloomed 1491 01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:20,760 into an irrational hysteria. Every natural disaster that 1492 01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:25,530 occurs is now linked with global warming, no matter how tenuous 1493 01:36:25,710 --> 01:36:29,640 or impossible the connection. As a result, the public has become 1494 01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,540 vastly missing misinformed. On this and other environmental 1495 01:36:33,540 --> 01:36:37,560 issues. Earth climate system is complex and poorly understood. 1496 01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,800 But we do know that throughout human history, warmer 1497 01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,830 temperatures have been associated with more stable 1498 01:36:43,830 --> 01:36:47,850 climates, and increased human health and prosperity. colder 1499 01:36:47,850 --> 01:36:50,160 temperatures have been correlated with climatic 1500 01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:54,990 instability, famine, and increased human mortality. The 1501 01:36:54,990 --> 01:36:59,400 amount of climatic warming that has taken place in the past 150 1502 01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:03,570 years is poorly constrained, and its cause human or natural is 1503 01:37:03,570 --> 01:37:07,530 unknown. There is no sound scientific basis for predicting 1504 01:37:07,530 --> 01:37:11,460 future climate change with any degree of certainty. According 1505 01:37:11,460 --> 01:37:15,810 to UK Government scientist on Monday, the traditional British 1506 01:37:15,810 --> 01:37:20,190 meal of fish and chips may soon need to be replaced due to 1507 01:37:20,190 --> 01:37:24,210 global climate change. cod and Haddock. Two of the most 1508 01:37:24,210 --> 01:37:28,050 commonly used fish for the popular dish are shifting 1509 01:37:28,050 --> 01:37:32,250 northward because of the warming sea temperatures. According to 1510 01:37:32,250 --> 01:37:35,640 Britain's center for the environment, new species like 1511 01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,450 squid and red mullet are moving into British waters from the 1512 01:37:39,450 --> 01:37:44,520 south. In an interview with the BBC, john pinegar, the program 1513 01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:48,900 director for marine climate change said I think people are 1514 01:37:48,900 --> 01:37:52,410 slowly becoming more adventurous. And I think people 1515 01:37:52,410 --> 01:37:56,400 should learn to eat what we're catching around our own waters. 1516 01:37:56,670 --> 01:38:01,740 In the long term, we will need to adapt our diets in the 1517 01:38:01,740 --> 01:38:04,560 totally different category of climate science. It was a big 1518 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,440 study this week. And usually when climate studies come out, 1519 01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:09,540 we're looking at environmental impacts. What was interesting 1520 01:38:09,540 --> 01:38:12,090 about this one was it was looking at economic impact. Tell 1521 01:38:12,090 --> 01:38:14,550 us a little bit about that. Well, this one is a very 1522 01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:18,390 impressive study on climate change. Scientists in the 1523 01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:22,200 climate realm teamed up with economists, the dismal science 1524 01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,590 meeting climate science, if you will. And they looked at the 1525 01:38:25,620 --> 01:38:28,470 economic impacts of climate change as you project out to the 1526 01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:31,860 future. And perhaps the most interesting finding was that 1527 01:38:31,860 --> 01:38:35,640 climate change will hit different socio economic classes 1528 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,910 differently. Here's Berkeley scientist and lead author of the 1529 01:38:38,910 --> 01:38:42,540 study Solomon Shang. In the south where it's hot, and along 1530 01:38:42,540 --> 01:38:45,480 the coast, we might see populations losing the 1531 01:38:45,480 --> 01:38:48,660 equivalent of 20% of their income. Whereas in the cooler 1532 01:38:48,660 --> 01:38:51,540 northern and western regions, we actually see that populations 1533 01:38:51,540 --> 01:38:54,720 might benefit a little bit because the North is tends to be 1534 01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,870 wealthier, and the South tends to be poorer. What we see is 1535 01:38:57,870 --> 01:39:00,870 that in the future climate change is going to increase 1536 01:39:00,930 --> 01:39:03,930 economic inequality within the United States. Now if the 1537 01:39:03,930 --> 01:39:06,720 President is going to walk away from this agreement, but it 1538 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,720 looks like he is going to I know you agree with that, so help me 1539 01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:14,310 understand make the best case why he should leave Paris? Well, 1540 01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:16,950 I think the key point to understand is that the Paris 1541 01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:20,490 treaty has no discernible impact on global average temperature, 1542 01:39:20,490 --> 01:39:22,890 and therefore the alleged climate benefits are illusory. 1543 01:39:22,890 --> 01:39:25,590 This is an agreement that if every country met its 1544 01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:28,410 obligations, according to the conventional EPA model would 1545 01:39:28,410 --> 01:39:30,960 reduce global average temperature less than two tenths 1546 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,810 of a degree in the year 2100. But of course, these countries 1547 01:39:33,810 --> 01:39:36,150 are mostly not meeting their obligations we just heard from 1548 01:39:36,150 --> 01:39:39,090 Germany, their emissions are up in each of the last two years, 1549 01:39:39,090 --> 01:39:41,310 the Philippines have already withdrawn from this agreement. 1550 01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:43,920 and India, which is allowed to increase emissions under this 1551 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,200 Agreement is building too many coal plants even meet their 1552 01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:49,470 target, they're gonna go well above it. The US commitment 1553 01:39:49,650 --> 01:39:52,740 would only avert an increase in temperature of about 15 1554 01:39:52,740 --> 01:39:56,160 thousandths of a degree by the year 2100. So there's really not 1555 01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,680 much upside here but there's tremendous downside because this 1556 01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:02,100 agreement locks in Those EPA regulations you were just 1557 01:40:02,100 --> 01:40:03,990 talking about in the introduction, the Clean Power 1558 01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:06,780 Plan, which increased electricity prices, about 20 to 1559 01:40:06,780 --> 01:40:10,500 30%, that has a very negative impact on consumers across this 1560 01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:13,470 country with no benefit to show for it. And it also commits the 1561 01:40:13,470 --> 01:40:17,220 American taxpayer to pay the lion's share of the $100 billion 1562 01:40:17,580 --> 01:40:21,090 per year Green Climate Fund a direct wealth transfer to the 1563 01:40:21,090 --> 01:40:23,040 rest of the world. And so I think the reason the rest of 1564 01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,040 world likes this deal so much is that the United States cripples 1565 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,310 itself economically, with regulations, and then it pays 1566 01:40:29,310 --> 01:40:31,980 the rest of the world for the privilege of doing so. Increased 1567 01:40:31,980 --> 01:40:34,920 foreign aid to me, that's not leadership. That's American 1568 01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:38,790 loser ship. And right, let me get let me get Michael 1569 01:40:38,790 --> 01:40:41,400 Oppenheimer here on this. There's a lot to unpack there. 1570 01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,670 But the substantive criticism that even people who favor the 1571 01:40:44,670 --> 01:40:48,600 Paris Agreement are it is a voluntary agreement. There are 1572 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:52,380 no real binding commitments. Why do you think it is such a great 1573 01:40:52,380 --> 01:40:55,650 deal that we ought to stay in it? The Paris Agreement isn't 1574 01:40:55,650 --> 01:40:59,310 perfect, but it's an important first step. And that's why the 1575 01:40:59,460 --> 01:41:02,760 statements of Mr. Kirpan are totally out of context. In fact, 1576 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:06,840 what's happening is, global emissions of carbon dioxide have 1577 01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,600 not increased, in fact decreased a little over the last three 1578 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:13,110 years. For the first time while the global economy was growing, 1579 01:41:13,110 --> 01:41:16,680 because countries are moving to the new energy sources, it would 1580 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:20,460 be foolish to pull out of this agreement, because number one, 1581 01:41:20,460 --> 01:41:24,030 it would do great harm to our relations with our allies around 1582 01:41:24,030 --> 01:41:30,030 the world. And secondly, it would condemn the US, the world 1583 01:41:30,420 --> 01:41:34,140 and future generations, our own children to a world with an 1584 01:41:34,140 --> 01:41:37,230 unacceptable level of climate change. And it's a real pity 1585 01:41:37,260 --> 01:41:41,610 a growing body of research shows climate change is bad, not just 1586 01:41:41,610 --> 01:41:45,060 for the planet, but for our mental health. People who've 1587 01:41:45,060 --> 01:41:48,750 lived through weather disasters are more prone to depression, 1588 01:41:48,780 --> 01:41:52,680 suicide, post traumatic stress, psychologists see more subtle 1589 01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:56,970 effects too. Just thinking about the impact of a shifting climate 1590 01:41:56,970 --> 01:41:59,850 can make you feel anxious and overwhelmed. This group of 1591 01:41:59,850 --> 01:42:03,000 strangers started coming together last year, they ranged 1592 01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,700 from millennials to grandparents, Dick Meyer used to 1593 01:42:05,700 --> 01:42:08,700 be skeptical about climate change. As the group sits in a 1594 01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:09,840 circle in the living room, 1595 01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:13,140 he tells why the problem made him emotional. And I think I 1596 01:42:13,140 --> 01:42:17,910 came to the conclusion that it was the loss of the future. The 1597 01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:22,500 future that I had lived, knowing was going to be there, all of a 1598 01:42:22,500 --> 01:42:27,210 sudden is gone. And that is really disorienting. 1599 01:42:27,540 --> 01:42:27,960 At some 1600 01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:31,980 point, you come to a conclusion, if you're paying attention, I 1601 01:42:31,980 --> 01:42:35,880 think where you just say, Whoa, this is serious. And then you 1602 01:42:35,940 --> 01:42:38,040 you suffer for a while you grieve. 1603 01:42:38,159 --> 01:42:40,469 Laura Schmidt was also struggling with the idea for 1604 01:42:40,469 --> 01:42:43,379 this group first came to her. She was an undergrad then 1605 01:42:43,379 --> 01:42:46,829 studying species extinction and melting ice caps, the human 1606 01:42:46,829 --> 01:42:49,619 impacts of all that made her feel heartsick, and powerless. 1607 01:42:50,039 --> 01:42:53,219 Then Schmidt remembered the 12 steps that self help groups use 1608 01:42:53,219 --> 01:42:57,119 for problems like drugs and over drinking, I have been an avid 1609 01:42:57,149 --> 01:42:59,519 participant in an Al anon group, the adult children of 1610 01:42:59,519 --> 01:43:03,959 alcoholics. And I realized that that group can be co opted 1611 01:43:03,989 --> 01:43:07,409 Schmid read her own steps nine of them. The first is the 1612 01:43:07,409 --> 01:43:11,219 standard admit there's a problem. It's a lot about 1613 01:43:11,249 --> 01:43:15,809 understanding your power and what you're capable of, but also 1614 01:43:15,809 --> 01:43:18,929 your limitations as a single human being on this planet. Yes, 1615 01:43:18,929 --> 01:43:23,009 people are anxious. We have climate anxiety all over the 1616 01:43:23,009 --> 01:43:26,789 place. These events Austrian is a washington dc psychiatrist and 1617 01:43:26,789 --> 01:43:32,399 climate activist every single day, we are told about what 1618 01:43:32,399 --> 01:43:37,799 disasters are just around the corner. And this is being 1619 01:43:37,799 --> 01:43:43,019 processed whether we know it consciously or not. In Utah, 1620 01:43:43,229 --> 01:43:46,049 Ellie herbertson says she comes to these meetings to mourn the 1621 01:43:46,049 --> 01:43:49,619 past and reimagine her kid's future. We don't do chit chat. 1622 01:43:49,649 --> 01:43:54,689 We go right to like, what's on your heart and I cry like every 1623 01:43:54,689 --> 01:43:58,049 week, which is no, no big, no big thing for me. I'm a huge 1624 01:43:58,049 --> 01:44:01,319 crier, but still like feeling like I can do that with almost 1625 01:44:01,319 --> 01:44:03,959 complete strangers is amazing. 1626 01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:06,510 You know, the atmosphere is a very thin shell around the 1627 01:44:06,510 --> 01:44:11,250 planet, we're putting 110 million tonnes a day of manmade 1628 01:44:11,250 --> 01:44:15,240 heat trapping pollution. And it's raising temperatures quite 1629 01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:17,760 dramatically melting all the eyes raising sea level, 1630 01:44:18,210 --> 01:44:20,940 evaporating much more water off the oceans causing these 1631 01:44:20,940 --> 01:44:24,750 incredible downpours such as the ones the UK has been 1632 01:44:24,750 --> 01:44:29,610 experiencing in the last few years. These climate related 1633 01:44:29,610 --> 01:44:33,600 extreme weather events have gotten much more frequent and 1634 01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:37,950 much more severe just in the last just since the first movie 1635 01:44:37,950 --> 01:44:43,560 came out, and the spread of tropical diseases into higher 1636 01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:49,230 latitudes and deeper droughts as well political disruptions. But 1637 01:44:49,230 --> 01:44:52,470 for all of the shocking consequences of the climate 1638 01:44:52,470 --> 01:44:58,500 crisis, this movie is extremely hopeful because there are also 1639 01:44:58,500 --> 01:45:03,390 shocking players alee shocking developments in the field of 1640 01:45:03,390 --> 01:45:09,000 technology where businesses have now found that just as with you 1641 01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:12,510 know, computer chips came down so dramatically in price even as 1642 01:45:12,510 --> 01:45:16,620 the computers got faster and better mobile phones flat screen 1643 01:45:16,620 --> 01:45:20,850 TVs, turns out solar panels and windmills and battery storage 1644 01:45:20,850 --> 01:45:24,390 the same way. And now it's getting cheaper to produce 1645 01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:28,500 electricity, electricity from renewable sources than from 1646 01:45:28,500 --> 01:45:33,090 burning dirty coal or gas or oil. And so we have the 1647 01:45:33,090 --> 01:45:36,900 solutions available to us. I'm a geologist. 1648 01:45:38,250 --> 01:45:42,330 And the one thing that we miss out on in looking at climate 1649 01:45:42,330 --> 01:45:48,630 change is the past. climates have always changed. climate 1650 01:45:48,630 --> 01:45:53,430 changes in the past had been greater and faster than anything 1651 01:45:53,460 --> 01:45:58,680 we experienced in our lifetime. And sea levels have always 1652 01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:02,250 changed, not by the modest couple of millimeters that 1653 01:46:02,250 --> 01:46:05,700 people are having connections about. We've had in the past sea 1654 01:46:05,700 --> 01:46:10,770 level changes of only 1500 meters. That's a sea level 1655 01:46:10,770 --> 01:46:15,810 challenge. And if we look back in the history of time, the 1656 01:46:15,810 --> 01:46:20,070 atmosphere once had a very large amount of carbon dioxide in it. 1657 01:46:20,850 --> 01:46:26,250 It's now got less than point 04 percent. Where did that carbon 1658 01:46:26,250 --> 01:46:31,350 dioxide go to it we need to chalk limestone shells and love 1659 01:46:32,010 --> 01:46:35,670 and we've been sequestering carbon dioxide out of the 1660 01:46:35,670 --> 01:46:42,990 atmosphere for only 10,000 to 500 million years. This planet 1661 01:46:43,020 --> 01:46:47,400 has been D gassing carbon dioxide since it first formed on 1662 01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:53,730 that Thursday 4560 7 billion years ago. Carbon dioxide is a 1663 01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:57,990 natural gas. It has dominated the atmosphere for an 1664 01:46:57,990 --> 01:47:02,790 extraordinary long period of time, and we now are at a 1665 01:47:02,790 --> 01:47:06,690 dangerously low level. If we have the amount of carbon 1666 01:47:06,690 --> 01:47:10,680 dioxide in the atmosphere, we would have no terrestrial 1667 01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:16,710 plants. Carbon dioxide is plant food. It is not a pollutant to 1668 01:47:16,710 --> 01:47:21,390 use words like pollution with carbon dioxide is misleading and 1669 01:47:21,390 --> 01:47:22,020 deceptive. 1670 01:47:22,319 --> 01:47:25,409 The United Nations says there will be two and a half billion 1671 01:47:25,409 --> 01:47:29,069 more people on the planet by 2050. Each will likely create 1672 01:47:29,069 --> 01:47:31,919 more carbon emissions and scientists say those emissions 1673 01:47:31,919 --> 01:47:35,939 could reach a dangerous tipping point by mid century. To avoid a 1674 01:47:35,939 --> 01:47:40,589 disaster. One man is proposing a radical idea is NPR Jennifer 1675 01:47:40,589 --> 01:47:43,709 Levin reports. He aims to convince people to have fewer 1676 01:47:43,709 --> 01:47:47,669 children. Travis reader is not a climate scientist. He's a 1677 01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:50,939 philosopher with the Berman Institute of bioethics at Johns 1678 01:47:50,939 --> 01:47:54,899 Hopkins. And his arguments are moral. When we meet he's in a 1679 01:47:54,899 --> 01:47:58,139 Tweety jacket and sneakers speaking to several dozen 1680 01:47:58,139 --> 01:48:00,359 students at James Madison University. 1681 01:48:00,390 --> 01:48:02,670 How old are you going to be in 2036? Are you thinking about 1682 01:48:02,670 --> 01:48:03,210 having kids? 1683 01:48:03,300 --> 01:48:06,720 How old are your kids going to be in 2036? Dangerous climate 1684 01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:10,470 change will be happening by then he says, and the world's poorest 1685 01:48:10,470 --> 01:48:13,800 nations will suffer most, even though rich countries like the 1686 01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:17,160 US create far more carbon emissions per capita. 1687 01:48:17,279 --> 01:48:20,669 So here's what's happening when I have a kid, I'm creating a 1688 01:48:20,669 --> 01:48:24,209 being who's doing the much greater proportion of the 1689 01:48:24,209 --> 01:48:27,539 contribution to the harm, and she's not going to suffer for 1690 01:48:27,539 --> 01:48:30,569 it, the other kid is and that seems unfair. 1691 01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:31,620 What about that big 1692 01:48:31,620 --> 01:48:35,400 climate deal in Paris? reader tell students it doesn't cut 1693 01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:39,300 emissions nearly enough to avoid a catastrophic tipping point. 1694 01:48:39,660 --> 01:48:43,230 But this might, he cites a study that finds reducing global 1695 01:48:43,230 --> 01:48:47,070 fertility by just half a child per woman could have a huge 1696 01:48:47,070 --> 01:48:52,800 impact. If it happens soon. Like many people watching where I was 1697 01:48:52,830 --> 01:48:57,540 overseas, I admit that I like them was shocked by the 1698 01:48:57,540 --> 01:49:01,440 exceptionally high bar put before one candidate and the 1699 01:49:01,440 --> 01:49:05,820 exceptionally low bar put before another candidate. It also 1700 01:49:05,820 --> 01:49:09,810 appeared that much of the press, much of the media was tying 1701 01:49:09,810 --> 01:49:13,920 itself in knots trying to differentiate between balance 1702 01:49:14,130 --> 01:49:19,500 between objectivity, neutrality, and crucially, the truth. We 1703 01:49:19,500 --> 01:49:23,790 cannot continue the old paradigm. We cannot, for 1704 01:49:23,790 --> 01:49:28,140 instance, keep saying like it was over global warming, where 1705 01:49:28,140 --> 01:49:33,840 99.9% of the science the empirical facts, the evidence is 1706 01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:39,300 given equal play with the tiny minority of deniers. I learned a 1707 01:49:39,300 --> 01:49:44,160 long, long time ago when I was covering the genocide and ethnic 1708 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:48,660 cleansing in Bosnia, never to equate victim and aggressor 1709 01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:54,150 never to create a false moral of factual equivalence. Because 1710 01:49:54,150 --> 01:49:59,190 then if you do particularly in situations like that you are 1711 01:49:59,190 --> 01:50:03,000 party and accomplice to the most unspeakable crimes and 1712 01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:08,430 consequences. So I believe in being truthful, not neutral. And 1713 01:50:08,430 --> 01:50:13,680 I believe we must stop by analyzing the truth. For some 1714 01:50:13,740 --> 01:50:19,020 odd reason, the major driver of climate is that great ball of 1715 01:50:19,020 --> 01:50:21,480 heat in the sky, which would call the sun. 1716 01:50:22,979 --> 01:50:27,389 You heard of the first, it's really quite unusual. And we 1717 01:50:27,389 --> 01:50:31,139 change our distance from the Sun. Every 100,000 years, our 1718 01:50:31,139 --> 01:50:36,029 orbit changes from elliptical to circular. And we have a cycle of 1719 01:50:36,029 --> 01:50:39,689 90,000 years of cold and 10,000 years of war when one of those 1720 01:50:39,689 --> 01:50:43,499 warm cycles and it'd be 43,000 years, the access to the earth 1721 01:50:43,499 --> 01:50:46,769 changes a little bit. And every 21,000 years, we get a bit of a 1722 01:50:46,769 --> 01:50:50,339 wobble. Each of those orbital events put us further from the 1723 01:50:50,339 --> 01:50:56,489 sun. Every now and then, we get bombarded by cosmic rays coming 1724 01:50:56,489 --> 01:50:59,819 from a supernatural eruption somewhere out there. And if the 1725 01:50:59,819 --> 01:51:04,499 sun's magnetic field cannot drive these away, we start to 1726 01:51:04,499 --> 01:51:09,359 form low level clouds, we've got extremely good evidence that 1727 01:51:09,359 --> 01:51:12,779 this process has been going on for a very long period of time. 1728 01:51:13,559 --> 01:51:17,519 Every now and then continent start to move, and they move at 1729 01:51:17,519 --> 01:51:23,249 very rapid rates. They move back this much every year. And at one 1730 01:51:23,249 --> 01:51:26,549 time, a continent can be over a pole at another time it can be 1731 01:51:26,549 --> 01:51:31,079 at the equator. Those moving continents change the major heat 1732 01:51:31,079 --> 01:51:34,499 balance on the earth. And that's the ocean currents. The oceans 1733 01:51:34,499 --> 01:51:38,819 carry far more than the atmosphere. Every now and then, 1734 01:51:38,909 --> 01:51:42,839 because of major geological processes. We'll get a great 1735 01:51:42,839 --> 01:51:47,939 boat on the ocean floor of new volcanic rock that changes ocean 1736 01:51:47,939 --> 01:51:53,159 currents. Every year, we have 10,000 cubic kilometres of 1737 01:51:53,159 --> 01:51:56,669 seawater that goes through new volcanic rocks in the ocean 1738 01:51:56,669 --> 01:52:01,919 floor that exchanges million people in Florida, Georgia and 1739 01:52:01,919 --> 01:52:05,789 South Carolina are under evacuation orders to discuss how 1740 01:52:05,789 --> 01:52:08,669 the role of climate change has been largely 1741 01:52:08,670 --> 01:52:12,540 ignored in media coverage of Hurricane Matthew. We're joined 1742 01:52:12,540 --> 01:52:15,930 now in our New York studio by May bhuvi, Executive Director of 1743 01:52:15,990 --> 01:52:19,860 350 action, the political arm of the climate organization 350 dot 1744 01:52:19,890 --> 01:52:25,050 org. May, it's great to have you with us. We so often see the 1745 01:52:25,050 --> 01:52:28,830 words extreme weather and severe weather flashing and the lower 1746 01:52:28,830 --> 01:52:32,970 thirds of the TV screens. Where are the words climate change and 1747 01:52:32,970 --> 01:52:36,600 global warming? You're exactly right. And Hurricane Matthew is 1748 01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:40,260 unfortunately, just the latest example of a trend where the 1749 01:52:40,260 --> 01:52:43,740 impacts of climate change, get more serious. Politicians 1750 01:52:43,740 --> 01:52:48,120 continue to have a break and say not nearly enough about it. We 1751 01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:52,560 have unequivocal reason to know that these kinds of storms are 1752 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,420 made worse by climate change. 1753 01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:58,800 We know what they're dealing with down there we see it time 1754 01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:02,340 and again, reporters such as myself have stood in those 1755 01:53:02,340 --> 01:53:06,150 waters and watch these people rebuild. can anything be done. 1756 01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:11,130 For us on my side of this, this is a result of climate change, 1757 01:53:11,130 --> 01:53:13,680 right? only gonna get worse, right? We hear this all the 1758 01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:18,390 time. But isn't there are not just about temperature, not just 1759 01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:22,740 about erosion and water. But the basic structure of this place, 1760 01:53:22,740 --> 01:53:26,550 how New Orleans from the weight of development and how it's been 1761 01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:30,210 built up, the levees is sinking that when you're there, you 1762 01:53:30,210 --> 01:53:34,500 stand on the ground and you look up at ships going past you in 1763 01:53:34,500 --> 01:53:39,570 the Mississippi. So either don't have the answer to this, except 1764 01:53:39,570 --> 01:53:42,150 it's gonna get worse, almost certainly will get worse 1765 01:53:42,150 --> 01:53:45,600 everybody. As the ocean gets warmer, which it is getting, it 1766 01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:49,620 expands. But think about the climate change issue every day. 1767 01:53:49,980 --> 01:53:55,080 There are officials in high office with responsibilities, 1768 01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:59,010 who mocked the overwhelming consensus of the world 1769 01:53:59,010 --> 01:54:02,940 scientists that human activities and the release of carbon 1770 01:54:02,940 --> 01:54:10,350 dioxide and other substances are altering our climate in profound 1771 01:54:10,350 --> 01:54:14,250 and dangerous ways. A while back, you may have seen a United 1772 01:54:14,250 --> 01:54:19,140 States senator trotted out a snowball during a florist speech 1773 01:54:19,140 --> 01:54:22,140 in the middle of winter as proof that the world was not warming 1774 01:54:22,770 --> 01:54:25,470 so much of what's going on. It's something that we have to treat 1775 01:54:25,470 --> 01:54:29,340 it as if it's a mental illness. I believe that climate change 1776 01:54:29,340 --> 01:54:34,590 denial is a form of a website, Martin O'Malley dot com. But you 1777 01:54:34,590 --> 01:54:37,530 know what I believe is the biggest issue that I think you 1778 01:54:37,530 --> 01:54:39,990 should be concerned about as a young person who has more time 1779 01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:48,600 on this planet than I do. And that is climate change. Climate 1780 01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:52,590 change is the greatest business opportunity to come to the 1781 01:54:52,590 --> 01:54:56,760 United States in 100 years, and I am the first candidate in 1782 01:54:56,760 --> 01:55:00,780 either party to put forward a plan to move us to a 100 percent 1783 01:55:01,050 --> 01:55:06,090 clean electric energy grid by 2050 and create 5 million jobs 1784 01:55:06,150 --> 01:55:09,420 along the way. And this is another one of those instances 1785 01:55:09,420 --> 01:55:13,110 Chris, where I was pointing the way forward. Look at what you 1786 01:55:13,110 --> 01:55:17,040 have already done in your in your state 30 to 35% of your 1787 01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:22,320 energy now come through clean I will win. When five oil train 1788 01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,930 protesters head to trial today those defendants noticed the 1789 01:55:24,930 --> 01:55:28,050 Delta five received a blessing at Seattle's Woodland Park 1790 01:55:28,050 --> 01:55:31,200 Presbyterian Church. The five were arrested back in September 1791 01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:35,460 of 2014. For blocking the tracks at BNSF rail yard and Everett, 1792 01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,250 members of the Delta five will be allowed to argue in court 1793 01:55:38,370 --> 01:55:40,920 that their actions were necessary because of the threat 1794 01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:44,910 of climate change. This is a nationally significant trial, 1795 01:55:45,060 --> 01:55:49,080 even globally significant because it's the first time the 1796 01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:53,580 necessity defense has been has been allowed and will be argued 1797 01:55:53,610 --> 01:55:57,690 in an American court for climate civil disobedience. During their 1798 01:55:57,690 --> 01:56:00,900 trial, the Delta five defendants will call two rail safety 1799 01:56:00,900 --> 01:56:04,260 experts and a climatologist to the stand to argue the threat of 1800 01:56:04,290 --> 01:56:06,870 oil trains to communities and the climate. 1801 01:56:06,930 --> 01:56:10,080 We need small things but we need big things. So the big 1802 01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:14,190 transition away from carbon dioxide and fossil fuel is 1803 01:56:14,190 --> 01:56:17,100 important because it has big impacts. But also on a local 1804 01:56:17,100 --> 01:56:18,420 scale. We need to learn how 1805 01:56:18,630 --> 01:56:19,140 the little 1806 01:56:19,140 --> 01:56:22,560 things really play a part how we can recycle more what else we 1807 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:27,420 can do, stop using as much plastic bottles and our bags. 1808 01:56:27,420 --> 01:56:30,330 And one thing that always gets to me too is I'm the first one 1809 01:56:30,330 --> 01:56:33,150 to join anyone for a good cup of coffee. But bring your own mug, 1810 01:56:33,180 --> 01:56:33,570 right? 1811 01:56:34,379 --> 01:56:35,069 We're going to do that I 1812 01:56:35,070 --> 01:56:37,410 want to give a couple of video questions. Here's a little 1813 01:56:37,410 --> 01:56:38,940 Layla. Take a look. 1814 01:56:39,510 --> 01:56:43,320 We really want the polar bears to to have food to eat. So they 1815 01:56:43,740 --> 01:56:48,720 will be so there will be her and I I don't know how to fix it. 1816 01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:50,070 And I really want to 1817 01:56:52,020 --> 01:56:52,620 whaler 1818 01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,670 lately, I gotta tell you, you're not the only one. A lot of 1819 01:56:56,670 --> 01:57:00,030 people are working on this issue. It is a serious one 1820 01:57:00,060 --> 01:57:04,290 serious impact. But there are ways we can fix it. We all work 1821 01:57:04,290 --> 01:57:05,250 together for this. 1822 01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:09,900 The big question is, are we too late? That's been the pondering 1823 01:57:09,900 --> 01:57:13,500 question for for everyone. I know, we should all remain 1824 01:57:13,500 --> 01:57:16,800 optimistic. And I want to remain optimistic. But you will worry 1825 01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:19,590 that we are too late that somehow we've done so much 1826 01:57:19,590 --> 01:57:22,140 damage, we can't have somebody else. The answer to that is in 1827 01:57:22,140 --> 01:57:25,260 somebody else's hands. But we do know that the scientific 1828 01:57:25,260 --> 01:57:29,070 community has been screaming out loud for decades and other 1829 01:57:29,070 --> 01:57:32,460 interests have stifled their voice and manipulated this 1830 01:57:32,460 --> 01:57:35,640 conversation. And it's a real shame. But I'm one thing I'm 1831 01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,820 proud of that for the first time we've we've seen the world 1832 01:57:38,820 --> 01:57:42,270 community take this issue seriously. And if they hadn't, 1833 01:57:42,630 --> 01:57:45,270 there would be absolutely no hope we can't wait another four 1834 01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:49,380 years for people to start to listen to 99% of the scientific 1835 01:57:49,380 --> 01:57:54,180 community. I mean, it's it's an absurdity. And it's not about 1836 01:57:54,180 --> 01:57:57,540 the individual anymore. It's about we it's about we as a 1837 01:57:57,540 --> 01:58:02,430 species as a world community finally coming together to make 1838 01:58:02,430 --> 01:58:05,310 some sort of progress forward. The question whether we're too 1839 01:58:05,310 --> 01:58:10,170 late or not, remains to be seen. But, you know, I'm just very 1840 01:58:10,170 --> 01:58:13,560 happy as an environmentalist to see something happen. But can 1841 01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:17,310 these alarming weather events also be blamed on climate 1842 01:58:17,310 --> 01:58:22,770 change? Scientists say not so fast. Maybe climate change adds 1843 01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:26,250 a couple more warmer days or makes the warmest temperatures a 1844 01:58:26,250 --> 01:58:29,400 little bit warmer. I don't think you can just say that because 1845 01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,370 it's a warming world. We're seeing a record warm December, 1846 01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:35,310 we might be enhancing the normal pattern that would have happened 1847 01:58:35,310 --> 01:58:38,550 anyway by a little bit. As freakishly warm weather sweeps 1848 01:58:38,550 --> 01:58:41,430 the eastern US a new poll shows Republicans who have largely 1849 01:58:41,430 --> 01:58:45,240 denied climate change may be thinking again, Megan Casella 1850 01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:46,080 has the story. 1851 01:58:46,319 --> 01:58:49,379 And new Reuters Ipsos poll shows that a majority of Republicans 1852 01:58:49,529 --> 01:58:51,959 are willing to take individual steps in order to curb climate 1853 01:58:51,959 --> 01:58:53,969 change, and many of them are also willing to support a 1854 01:58:53,969 --> 01:58:57,029 presidential candidate who was looking to work internationally 1855 01:58:57,029 --> 01:58:58,139 and work with other countries in 1856 01:58:58,140 --> 01:59:01,590 order to take those same steps. The poll found 58% of 1857 01:59:01,590 --> 01:59:04,350 Republicans who knew of the recent global climate deal 1858 01:59:04,350 --> 01:59:07,950 reached in Paris approved of efforts to limit global warming. 1859 01:59:08,370 --> 01:59:11,430 It's a snowball. For years republican politicians like 1860 01:59:11,430 --> 01:59:15,120 Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe have made climate change denial 1861 01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:18,360 a key contrast with President Obama and the Democrats. Mr. 1862 01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:19,350 President catch this 1863 01:59:21,180 --> 01:59:24,930 2016 GOP hopefuls like Donald Trump seeing a similar tune. 1864 01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:28,470 President Obama said that global warming is our biggest problem. 1865 01:59:28,470 --> 01:59:29,460 Can you believe this? 1866 01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:32,730 We're seeing a primary where many of these candidates aren't 1867 01:59:32,730 --> 01:59:35,160 talking about the issues at all. Many of the Republican 1868 01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:37,470 candidates are going so far as to disavow the science behind 1869 01:59:37,470 --> 01:59:41,010 climate change and say that they don't even believe that is 1870 01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:43,920 primarily manmade. And so we're seeing a difference there 1871 01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:47,010 between what the Republican electorate is thinking and and 1872 01:59:47,010 --> 01:59:48,900 hoping to see and what the candidates themselves are 1873 01:59:48,900 --> 01:59:49,410 saying. 1874 01:59:49,710 --> 01:59:52,470 And that could turn up the heat if a republican takes the White 1875 01:59:52,470 --> 01:59:55,470 House next year and has to decide whether to implement the 1876 01:59:55,470 --> 01:59:59,430 climate agreement or scrap it global climate talks in Paris 1877 01:59:59,430 --> 02:00:02,640 have entered the ninth day, delegates are working to reach a 1878 02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:06,060 deal to keep global warming below two degrees Celsius. 1879 02:00:06,330 --> 02:00:09,420 Several of wetness day's events are focusing on the climate 1880 02:00:09,420 --> 02:00:12,870 impacts of meat and dairy consumption. Singer Paul 1881 02:00:12,870 --> 02:00:16,230 McCartney has been highlighting the importance of a meat reduced 1882 02:00:16,230 --> 02:00:19,950 diet. He says the livestock industry is responsible for a 1883 02:00:19,950 --> 02:00:24,420 massive percentage of greenhouse gases. German MEP yo Lyneham 1884 02:00:24,420 --> 02:00:27,780 says Dyess is one of the most delicate issues with climate 1885 02:00:27,780 --> 02:00:32,130 protection. activists in Paris are taking a gentle approach to 1886 02:00:32,130 --> 02:00:35,400 the world's love affair with meat, ranging from offering 1887 02:00:35,430 --> 02:00:39,330 lookalike plant burgers, to suggesting a gradual weaning off 1888 02:00:39,330 --> 02:00:43,200 animal protein. For now, meat consumption is rising in many 1889 02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:46,770 countries, despite warnings. Most recently a World Health 1890 02:00:46,770 --> 02:00:50,010 Organization report to find eating processed or red meat 1891 02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:53,760 increased the risk of developing cancer, delegates hope to secure 1892 02:00:53,790 --> 02:00:58,230 a final climate deal by a deadline of 6pm Central European 1893 02:00:58,230 --> 02:01:03,060 Time on Friday, we're now all in this point in time on this 1894 02:01:03,060 --> 02:01:08,880 planet. And if we don't work together, the consequences are 1895 02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:14,280 disastrous, not right now. But for our children, and our 1896 02:01:14,280 --> 02:01:18,390 children's children, and the future of humanity. 1897 02:01:21,210 --> 02:01:25,350 The planet will be okay. It just won't be any damn people on it. 1898 02:01:25,739 --> 02:01:29,729 And so we are actively at the table, even though it's such a 1899 02:01:29,729 --> 02:01:32,339 short period of time. But it's a commitment of our prime 1900 02:01:32,339 --> 02:01:36,689 ministers of commitment of mine to be here to listen, to look at 1901 02:01:36,689 --> 02:01:40,349 how we can play a role in finding solutions. You know, 1902 02:01:40,349 --> 02:01:43,349 we're not there yet with having an agreement. But we're getting 1903 02:01:43,349 --> 02:01:45,989 close. And I think there's real opportunities. And if Canada 1904 02:01:45,989 --> 02:01:49,109 actually shows that it's serious that it's back, that we 1905 02:01:49,109 --> 02:01:52,409 understand that the science behind climate change is real, 1906 02:01:52,709 --> 02:01:56,339 that we need to be taking action that we need to be, you know, 1907 02:01:56,339 --> 02:01:59,159 looking at what measures we can take to reduce emissions, I 1908 02:01:59,159 --> 02:02:01,979 think that will set an extraordinarily strong signal. 1909 02:02:02,219 --> 02:02:05,729 And we've already seen that you know that people are excited 1910 02:02:05,759 --> 02:02:08,069 that we're here and Canadians are excited that we're here. I'm 1911 02:02:08,069 --> 02:02:11,819 excited to be here. So I'm really looking forward, you 1912 02:02:11,819 --> 02:02:15,329 know, to meeting with everyone and showing that we are serious 1913 02:02:15,329 --> 02:02:17,459 and that Canada is back on the world stage. 1914 02:02:17,580 --> 02:02:22,140 He couldn't answer the most basic fact that for the last 18 1915 02:02:22,140 --> 02:02:25,140 years, the satellite data showed no significant warming 1916 02:02:25,140 --> 02:02:29,280 whatsoever. He had no idea about that he turned to his aides 1917 02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:32,490 every minute or two. And you know, part of the reason he 1918 02:02:32,490 --> 02:02:36,750 didn't know the facts because climate change is not science. 1919 02:02:37,410 --> 02:02:38,130 It's religion. 1920 02:02:39,569 --> 02:02:44,909 Look at the language where they call you a denier. denier is not 1921 02:02:45,179 --> 02:02:47,819 the language of science. Look, I'm the child of two scientists. 1922 02:02:47,819 --> 02:02:49,799 My parents are both mathematicians, computer 1923 02:02:49,799 --> 02:02:54,029 programmers. My dad was a self taught geophysicist. The essence 1924 02:02:54,029 --> 02:02:57,449 of the scientific method is to start with a hypothesis and then 1925 02:02:57,449 --> 02:03:00,449 look to evidence to disprove the hypothesis. You're not trying to 1926 02:03:00,449 --> 02:03:04,559 prove it. You're trying to disprove it. Any good scientist 1927 02:03:04,559 --> 02:03:08,549 is a skeptic if he's not he or she should not be a scientist. 1928 02:03:08,969 --> 02:03:14,339 But yet the language of the global warming alarmists denier 1929 02:03:14,339 --> 02:03:17,069 is the language of religion, it's heretic, you are a 1930 02:03:17,069 --> 02:03:21,779 blasphemer. The response from the Sierra Club, we have decreed 1931 02:03:21,779 --> 02:03:25,229 this as the answer you must accept it. And so he didn't know 1932 02:03:25,229 --> 02:03:27,329 his facts because he just knew his religion. 1933 02:03:28,649 --> 02:03:32,309 And our own skepticism over climate changes cost one French 1934 02:03:32,339 --> 02:03:36,089 weatherman his job. He was taken off air after publishing a book 1935 02:03:36,089 --> 02:03:39,809 where he described quote, the complete hype on the matter. 1936 02:03:41,310 --> 02:03:46,710 My bed fever the visual that is presented to me to use well, 1937 02:03:46,710 --> 02:03:49,770 Philip Verdier his book question the causes and consequences of 1938 02:03:49,770 --> 02:03:52,590 climate change. The author suggested that warmer 1939 02:03:52,590 --> 02:03:54,960 temperatures could bring benefits including cheaper 1940 02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:57,720 energy bills because new people read his comments came just as 1941 02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:01,020 France prepares to host a major UN Conference on climate change 1942 02:04:01,020 --> 02:04:04,320 later this month that aims to decrease pollution levels 1943 02:04:04,350 --> 02:04:07,260 mission we asked the head of the publishing house what he thinks 1944 02:04:07,260 --> 02:04:08,010 about the incident. 1945 02:04:10,260 --> 02:04:13,650 For me, this incident felt like a crime of opinion pure and 1946 02:04:13,650 --> 02:04:17,580 simple. With this book, we expected a controversy but not a 1947 02:04:17,580 --> 02:04:21,240 sacking. This demonstrates that there is a real ideological 1948 02:04:21,240 --> 02:04:24,960 problem in France. At a certain point we asked Philip about the 1949 02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:28,140 possible outcomes. We told him that he should protect his 1950 02:04:28,140 --> 02:04:31,770 interests. Well, never did he say it's the money that counts. 1951 02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:32,370 There's so 1952 02:04:32,370 --> 02:04:35,040 many different things that can dampen your sex drive, you're 1953 02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,640 tired, you have a headache, the kids are bugging you. And now 1954 02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:42,390 here's another one to add to the list. Global warming. That's 1955 02:04:42,390 --> 02:04:46,830 right, climate change can kill your mojo. So researchers looked 1956 02:04:46,830 --> 02:04:50,640 at really hot days and then look forward nine months and what 1957 02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:54,840 they found is fewer babies were born nine months after those hot 1958 02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:58,620 days they defined really hot days as being over 80 degrees. 1959 02:04:58,740 --> 02:05:03,120 Those hot days may Couples feel well, maybe not so hot. The 1960 02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:06,630 impact was pretty sizable. In the United States, they found 1961 02:05:06,630 --> 02:05:11,850 that the impact of one hot day meant 1100 fewer births. Nine 1962 02:05:11,850 --> 02:05:14,790 months later, when you look at the whole United States, we had 1963 02:05:14,790 --> 02:05:18,360 about 30 days a year with the temperature climbs above 80. 1964 02:05:18,450 --> 02:05:22,080 However, as global warming takes its toll, it's predicted that we 1965 02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,960 could have 90 days a year where the temperature climbs that 1966 02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:29,190 high, that could mean eventually in the United States, 100,000 1967 02:05:29,190 --> 02:05:32,550 fewer births every year, and because of global warming, it's 1968 02:05:32,550 --> 02:05:35,820 just getting hotter. Now, once the weather cooled off, couples 1969 02:05:35,820 --> 02:05:39,420 did get back to coupling, but still it didn't make up for the 1970 02:05:39,420 --> 02:05:43,230 decreases during the hot months. So it turns out global warming 1971 02:05:43,230 --> 02:05:47,040 is not just bad for our oceans and our crops. It's also bad for 1972 02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:47,940 our sex lives, 1973 02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:52,530 peer pressure and cooperation. These are just some of the buzz 1974 02:05:52,530 --> 02:05:55,710 words being used ahead of the UN Climate meeting in Paris this 1975 02:05:55,710 --> 02:05:58,710 December, where talks will look to reach an international 1976 02:05:58,710 --> 02:06:02,250 agreement to cut greenhouse gas emissions, negotiators planning 1977 02:06:02,250 --> 02:06:05,940 to enforce any deals without sanctions or punishments. The 1978 02:06:05,940 --> 02:06:08,370 climate agreement will be more along the lines of a nuclear 1979 02:06:08,370 --> 02:06:11,160 agreement than it will be along the lines of something that say 1980 02:06:11,460 --> 02:06:13,200 under the World Trade Organisation where you could 1981 02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:17,760 come and slap trade sanctions on people. Of course, some people 1982 02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:21,390 say this just isn't good enough. The Bolivians especially have 1983 02:06:21,390 --> 02:06:24,390 the most radical proposal, which is to say that you should have 1984 02:06:24,390 --> 02:06:28,230 an international climate justice tribunal. Neither China nor the 1985 02:06:28,230 --> 02:06:31,500 United States are two top emitters of greenhouse gases 1986 02:06:31,530 --> 02:06:35,430 would be willing to submit themselves to a strong legal 1987 02:06:35,430 --> 02:06:39,000 review of their promises to cut to curb greenhouse gas 1988 02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:42,720 emissions. Instead, a likely outcome could be a pledge and 1989 02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:45,600 review system whereby commitments are assessed every 1990 02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:49,380 five years against the goal of having world emissions by 2050 1991 02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:52,440 advocators of that also anticipate an organic move 1992 02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:57,300 towards green energy. The hope is that in the coming years that 1993 02:06:57,300 --> 02:07:00,900 the prices of solar technology or wind technology, wind 1994 02:07:00,900 --> 02:07:04,560 turbines, hydro power will have come down so much that it makes 1995 02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:07,680 it makes economic sense for governments to go ahead and do 1996 02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:10,860 this. Since 1979. The summer sea 1997 02:07:10,860 --> 02:07:14,760 ice in the Arctic has decreased by more than 40% decrease that 1998 02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:17,850 has dramatically accelerated over the past two decades. One 1999 02:07:17,850 --> 02:07:20,760 new study estimates that Alaska's glaciers alone lose 2000 02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:26,430 about 75 Giga tons that 75 billion tons of ice each year. 2001 02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:30,060 To put that in perspective, one scientist described a Giga ton 2002 02:07:30,090 --> 02:07:35,100 of ice as a block the size of the National Mall in Washington, 2003 02:07:35,100 --> 02:07:38,910 from Congress, all the way to the Lincoln Memorial four times 2004 02:07:38,910 --> 02:07:42,450 as tall as the Washington Monument. Now imagine 75 of 2005 02:07:42,450 --> 02:07:46,170 those ice blocks. That's what Alaska's glaciers alone lose 2006 02:07:46,200 --> 02:07:50,370 each year, the pace of melting is only getting faster. It's now 2007 02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:56,250 twice what it was between 1950 and 2000, twice as fast as it 2008 02:07:56,250 --> 02:07:59,910 was just a little over a decade ago. And it's one of the reasons 2009 02:07:59,910 --> 02:08:02,880 why sea levels rose by about eight inches over the last 2010 02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:06,240 century. And why are they're projected to rise another one to 2011 02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:09,630 four feet this century? Because I don't think you think climate 2012 02:08:09,630 --> 02:08:13,590 change is a real problem. And I'm not alone. I mean, the most 2013 02:08:13,590 --> 02:08:16,260 recent survey, not alone, the most recent survey climate 2014 02:08:16,830 --> 02:08:22,200 scientists said about 57% don't agree with the idea that 95% of 2015 02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:24,210 the change in the climate has been caused by 2016 02:08:25,529 --> 02:08:29,309 there was a survey done of 1800 scientists and 57% said they 2017 02:08:29,309 --> 02:08:33,449 don't buy off on the idea that co2 is the knob that's turning 2018 02:08:33,449 --> 02:08:36,329 the clump. There's hundreds of green, I don't know, I don't 2019 02:08:36,329 --> 02:08:37,829 know what else you're pulling 2020 02:08:39,420 --> 02:08:44,250 out the survey, okay, it's 1800 climate science. So that's 2021 02:08:44,250 --> 02:08:48,180 number one. Number two, the 97% figure that's thrown around. The 2022 02:08:48,180 --> 02:08:52,230 head of the UN IPCC said that number was pulled out of thin 2023 02:08:52,230 --> 02:08:57,000 air. It was based on us on a survey of 77 not even 97 2024 02:08:57,000 --> 02:08:59,910 scientists responded to that survey. So let's just get let's 2025 02:08:59,910 --> 02:09:03,270 talk about facts. And the fact is, lots of things caused 2026 02:09:03,270 --> 02:09:07,560 climate change. But Pope made a very strong statement, very 2027 02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:10,950 strong statement in support of my position on climate change, 2028 02:09:10,950 --> 02:09:14,910 not yours. And your position when you heard that was, hey, 2029 02:09:14,940 --> 02:09:17,940 let's leave the science to the scientists. Okay, first of all, 2030 02:09:17,940 --> 02:09:22,110 you're not doing that. But second of all, I am. You're not 2031 02:09:22,110 --> 02:09:26,010 because 97% of all scientists believe a bogus number. It's so 2032 02:09:26,010 --> 02:09:29,340 not a bogus. It's so okay, yours is mine is yours is mine. 2033 02:09:33,359 --> 02:09:37,739 What I want to ask you is, I mean, you're I'm not a Catholic. 2034 02:09:37,769 --> 02:09:41,759 I'm not. I'm not I'm an atheist. But I like the pope better than 2035 02:09:41,759 --> 02:09:42,479 you do. And I 2036 02:09:44,159 --> 02:09:47,969 go, Wait a second. You are, you're saying the potion stick 2037 02:09:47,969 --> 02:09:49,469 to what he knows. And 2038 02:09:52,409 --> 02:09:55,469 this is what I always say. So much of religion is arrogance 2039 02:09:55,469 --> 02:09:59,729 masquerading as humility, shut. He's the Vicar of Christ. You're 2040 02:09:59,729 --> 02:10:02,819 God. Shouldn't you have the humility to say, Well, if the 2041 02:10:02,819 --> 02:10:07,049 pope thinks climate change is a problem? Maybe I should, he's 2042 02:10:07,049 --> 02:10:13,889 not just another guy. If you look at all the things the Pope 2043 02:10:13,889 --> 02:10:17,249 said, which, which I hope you do, he put it in the context of 2044 02:10:17,249 --> 02:10:20,519 trying to reach out to people who may not agree with him on a 2045 02:10:20,519 --> 02:10:23,309 whole lot of other issues in order to try to open up some 2046 02:10:23,309 --> 02:10:25,799 doors and open up a conversation, which is obviously 2047 02:10:25,799 --> 02:10:27,989 done. I mean, Al Gore is now saying he's gonna become a 2048 02:10:27,989 --> 02:10:29,999 Catholic because of this president. I mean, because of 2049 02:10:29,999 --> 02:10:33,569 this Pope. Contrary to media headlines, the trend over the 2050 02:10:33,569 --> 02:10:38,789 past couple of decades, has been essentially flat. Meanwhile, 2051 02:10:38,879 --> 02:10:45,179 human caused co2 emissions are higher than ever, about 25% of 2052 02:10:45,179 --> 02:10:49,439 all the co2 emissions from human sources have occurred during 2053 02:10:49,439 --> 02:10:55,139 this period of no net warming. So what are we in for next? Will 2054 02:10:55,139 --> 02:10:59,159 the temperature resume an upward trend? Will it remain flat for a 2055 02:10:59,159 --> 02:11:04,829 lengthy period? Or will it begin to drop? No one knows, not even 2056 02:11:04,829 --> 02:11:09,239 the biggest, fastest computers, all the information I've 2057 02:11:09,239 --> 02:11:13,499 presented, the increases, decreases and plateaus in 2058 02:11:13,499 --> 02:11:17,069 temperature over the ages and into the last centuries is 2059 02:11:17,069 --> 02:11:21,539 available to anyone who wants to seek it out. Yet to state these 2060 02:11:21,539 --> 02:11:26,129 simple facts is to risk being called a climate change denier. 2061 02:11:26,609 --> 02:11:31,169 Not only is that absurd? It's mean spirited. It's absurd, 2062 02:11:31,169 --> 02:11:35,669 because no one, not even the most fervent skeptic denies that 2063 02:11:35,669 --> 02:11:39,779 the climate is changing. And it's mean spirited, because to 2064 02:11:39,779 --> 02:11:43,889 call someone a climate change denier is to intentionally link 2065 02:11:43,889 --> 02:11:48,449 them to people who deny the Holocaust. So maybe it's time to 2066 02:11:48,449 --> 02:11:52,289 stop the name calling, predicting the climate, one of 2067 02:11:52,289 --> 02:11:56,369 the most complex systems on Earth, with 1000s of inputs, 2068 02:11:56,549 --> 02:11:59,789 many of which we don't understand isn't an exact 2069 02:11:59,789 --> 02:12:03,989 science, or anything close to it. Maybe it's just a tad 2070 02:12:03,989 --> 02:12:07,499 arrogant to suggest that we can predict the weather or the 2071 02:12:07,499 --> 02:12:12,689 climate, or just about anything. 60 years from now, the science 2072 02:12:12,689 --> 02:12:17,669 is not settled. The debate is not over. The climate is always 2073 02:12:17,669 --> 02:12:23,189 changing. It always has. And it always will. I'm Patrick Moore, 2074 02:12:23,399 --> 02:12:26,999 co founder of Greenpeace, for Prager University, climate 2075 02:12:26,999 --> 02:12:30,269 change is stretching out our variability. Talking about 2076 02:12:30,269 --> 02:12:33,179 politics, it's always been very important to you making a 2077 02:12:33,179 --> 02:12:36,029 difference in the world. Where do you think stand things stand 2078 02:12:36,029 --> 02:12:40,199 in 2014? A lot of people are cynical, can I say shut up and 2079 02:12:40,979 --> 02:12:44,399 run this world have as exactly where they want us? Now they 2080 02:12:44,399 --> 02:12:47,429 want everyone to just lay down Shut up. While we rob, you talk 2081 02:12:47,429 --> 02:12:51,179 about the fight for a cleaner, safer environment? Well, you 2082 02:12:51,179 --> 02:12:53,879 know, there are many, many problems facing us, especially 2083 02:12:53,879 --> 02:12:56,729 with the acidification of the ocean and then rising and the 2084 02:12:56,729 --> 02:12:59,579 temperatures and the melting of the glaciers. But it all really 2085 02:12:59,579 --> 02:13:02,609 stems from climate change. You know, and, you know, it's 2086 02:13:02,609 --> 02:13:05,909 appalling how many climate change deniers there are in this 2087 02:13:05,909 --> 02:13:09,539 world that are paid to make sure that the Koch brothers can still 2088 02:13:09,539 --> 02:13:13,409 sell all the stuff to us. And I often wonder, don't the Koch 2089 02:13:13,409 --> 02:13:16,769 brothers have children? They have grandchildren? Don't they 2090 02:13:16,769 --> 02:13:19,589 know what they're doing in this quest for more money? They're 2091 02:13:19,589 --> 02:13:23,279 already one of the richest families in the world. How much 2092 02:13:23,279 --> 02:13:28,109 more do you need? We have a brand new aspect of Hollywood 2093 02:13:28,109 --> 02:13:33,209 Health and Society, which is to work with on a topic of climate 2094 02:13:33,209 --> 02:13:37,079 change. Where again, all these different activities, writer 2095 02:13:37,079 --> 02:13:41,099 briefings, screenings, newsletters, and so on are an 2096 02:13:41,099 --> 02:13:45,899 attempt to provide free resources to writers who want to 2097 02:13:45,899 --> 02:13:51,359 include climate change as one of the storylines that they're 2098 02:13:51,359 --> 02:13:55,169 working on. And just to give you an example of that climate 2099 02:13:55,169 --> 02:13:59,999 change work a few weeks ago, there was a field trip we do 2100 02:13:59,999 --> 02:14:05,219 something called story bus tours, to the JPL NASA lab in 2101 02:14:05,219 --> 02:14:08,819 Pasadena, where we brought something like 37 writers and 2102 02:14:08,819 --> 02:14:13,769 producers to experience the most amazing stuff that they have 2103 02:14:13,769 --> 02:14:18,479 going on to inspire them in this area and to be factually 2104 02:14:18,509 --> 02:14:19,079 accurate. 2105 02:14:19,140 --> 02:14:20,310 If you noticed your last flight 2106 02:14:20,310 --> 02:14:23,700 was unusually bumpy get used to it. Scientists say climate 2107 02:14:23,700 --> 02:14:26,580 change is making the air more turbulent Case 2108 02:14:26,580 --> 02:14:29,070 in point, the South African Airlines Flight 2109 02:14:29,250 --> 02:14:32,400 rough bear sent passengers flying across the cabin. Some 2110 02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:36,180 even hit the ceiling. 20 people were seriously injured on that 2111 02:14:36,180 --> 02:14:39,930 flight from Johannesburg, South Africa. cnet's George house has 2112 02:14:39,930 --> 02:14:40,560 more for you. 2113 02:14:42,540 --> 02:14:46,950 been on a flight like this lately? A recent study may have 2114 02:14:46,950 --> 02:14:50,340 you reaching for the seat belts, suggesting we could see more 2115 02:14:50,340 --> 02:14:54,060 turbulence in the years to come as a result of climate change. 2116 02:14:55,409 --> 02:14:58,829 And after the ups and downs I experienced on this flight I 2117 02:14:58,829 --> 02:15:02,009 decided to look into Okay, so we're flying from Boston to 2118 02:15:02,009 --> 02:15:05,789 Chicago, and it's one of the bumpiest flights I've been on 2119 02:15:06,269 --> 02:15:06,629 ever. 2120 02:15:08,159 --> 02:15:08,849 What do you think? 2121 02:15:10,979 --> 02:15:13,229 My stomach actually physically hurts from 2122 02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:16,200 the flight because your child will never be able to say that 2123 02:15:16,200 --> 02:15:20,130 one particular person's flight experience, which was bumpy was 2124 02:15:20,130 --> 02:15:22,380 the has been caused by climate change. Of course, we can't. 2125 02:15:22,410 --> 02:15:27,780 What we can say is that, as the climate changes, the odds of 2126 02:15:27,780 --> 02:15:30,510 encountering turbulence on your flight are increasing. 2127 02:15:32,640 --> 02:15:36,330 Dr. Paul Williams says climate change is not only heating up 2128 02:15:36,330 --> 02:15:39,000 the bottom part of the atmosphere, but the computer 2129 02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:42,750 models show increased carbon dioxide levels are also changing 2130 02:15:42,750 --> 02:15:45,450 the Temperatures and wind speeds in the jet stream. 2131 02:15:47,430 --> 02:15:50,340 His research focuses in on transatlantic flights, 2132 02:15:50,370 --> 02:15:53,820 specifically addressing what's called clear air turbulence 2133 02:15:53,850 --> 02:15:57,690 occurring high above the clouds, and passengers are starting to 2134 02:15:57,690 --> 02:16:01,800 feel the difference. So those Jetstream wind shares are 2135 02:16:01,800 --> 02:16:04,920 becoming stronger because of climate change. And that I 2136 02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:07,200 believe is causing the atmosphere to become more 2137 02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:11,280 turbulent. And that is causing airplane flights to become 2138 02:16:11,280 --> 02:16:15,540 bumpier as a consequence. Thank you very much. So Dr. Bock, can 2139 02:16:15,540 --> 02:16:20,880 you be one of the 97%? This talked about and certainly, you 2140 02:16:20,880 --> 02:16:24,990 know, you're you, you know, you feel like man is contributing 2141 02:16:24,990 --> 02:16:27,720 and this and that, but certainly are not one that feels like the 2142 02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:31,530 models are acceptable. And I suspect that you have many of 2143 02:16:31,530 --> 02:16:35,850 your cohorts that are in the same in the same camp? Well, I 2144 02:16:35,850 --> 02:16:39,000 think the key thing here is that science is not a real by 2145 02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:43,260 majority method. That's the important thing. It's discovery. 2146 02:16:43,800 --> 02:16:47,670 And I'd like to quote, Jonas Salk, the inventor of the polio 2147 02:16:47,670 --> 02:16:51,600 vaccine, he said, I get into dialogue, a dialogue with 2148 02:16:51,600 --> 02:16:55,830 nature, and put the question to nature, not to my colleagues, 2149 02:16:55,860 --> 02:16:59,700 because that's from whence the answer must come. And that's 2150 02:16:59,700 --> 02:17:03,600 what I do. I always look at the data. And also Richard Fineman, 2151 02:17:04,140 --> 02:17:09,270 one of the great 20th century, quantum physicists said, science 2152 02:17:09,300 --> 02:17:14,250 is the belief in the ignorance of experts. So to keep saying 2153 02:17:14,280 --> 02:17:19,650 it's a majority. That's not a scientific statement. And it's 2154 02:17:19,650 --> 02:17:25,170 not correct. I've spent 15 years working on climate change in a 2155 02:17:25,170 --> 02:17:29,040 very constructive way. And what I can tell you is that since 2156 02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:33,840 about 1990, the data has started to move in the other direction, 2157 02:17:34,140 --> 02:17:39,450 away from an important effect by human beings. And that's just 2158 02:17:39,450 --> 02:17:40,740 what the facts Show. 2159 02:17:42,060 --> 02:17:42,930 Hey, everybody, 2160 02:17:43,170 --> 02:17:46,380 I'm Gina McCarthy, Administrator of the Environmental Protection 2161 02:17:46,380 --> 02:17:50,340 Agency. Let me start by thanking revenue wood in the Hip Hop 2162 02:17:50,340 --> 02:17:54,000 Caucus for putting all this together. I also want to give a 2163 02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:57,750 shout out to Reverend early in everyone else at the hip hop 2164 02:17:57,750 --> 02:18:02,880 caucuses climate tour. at EPA, it's our job to protect public 2165 02:18:02,880 --> 02:18:06,930 health and the environment. Too often, low income neighborhoods 2166 02:18:06,930 --> 02:18:10,770 and communities of color are overburdened by air pollution, 2167 02:18:10,950 --> 02:18:14,850 water pollution and contaminated soil, as well as dangerous 2168 02:18:14,850 --> 02:18:18,420 floods, fires and storms that have been worsened by climate 2169 02:18:18,420 --> 02:18:22,920 change. In the US, an African American child is five times 2170 02:18:22,920 --> 02:18:26,610 more likely than a white child to die from an asthma attack. 2171 02:18:26,880 --> 02:18:30,540 And climate change means hotter temperatures, and even more air 2172 02:18:30,540 --> 02:18:34,470 pollution, which especially burdens minority communities. 2173 02:18:34,590 --> 02:18:38,490 It's tough to go to school or to find a job when you're sick or 2174 02:18:38,490 --> 02:18:42,570 caring for a child who is sick. Pollution is holding back 2175 02:18:42,780 --> 02:18:46,200 millions of African Americans fighting for middle class 2176 02:18:46,200 --> 02:18:49,680 security, because the first few rungs of any ladder of 2177 02:18:49,680 --> 02:18:53,520 opportunity, a clean air to breathe, and clean water to 2178 02:18:53,520 --> 02:18:57,510 drink. In President Obama calls closing those gaps of 2179 02:18:57,510 --> 02:18:58,350 opportunity, 2180 02:18:58,590 --> 02:19:02,910 the defining issue of our time. fantastic news today for freedom 2181 02:19:02,910 --> 02:19:06,690 of speech, as I've said here several times, Professor Peter 2182 02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:10,200 reid is a great barrier reef expert, who was sacked 2183 02:19:10,380 --> 02:19:14,070 shamefully by James Cook University for questioning 2184 02:19:14,070 --> 02:19:17,580 claims by colleagues that the reef was being destroyed by 2185 02:19:17,580 --> 02:19:22,380 global warming. He was sacked for saying things like this, we 2186 02:19:22,380 --> 02:19:25,380 can no longer trust the scientific organizations like 2187 02:19:25,410 --> 02:19:28,530 Australian Institute of Marine Science, even things like the 2188 02:19:28,530 --> 02:19:31,560 IRC Center of Excellence for coral reef studies. A lot of 2189 02:19:31,560 --> 02:19:35,280 this stuff is coming out which the science is not properly 2190 02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:38,760 checked, tested or replicated. And this is a great shame that 2191 02:19:38,850 --> 02:19:41,100 we really need to be able to tap trust our scientific 2192 02:19:41,100 --> 02:19:44,880 institutions. Well, the Federal Court today ruled that red 2193 02:19:44,880 --> 02:19:49,050 sacking was unlawful. Joining me is Gideon Rosner, the policy 2194 02:19:49,050 --> 02:19:51,900 director of the Institute of Public Affairs, which is 2195 02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:55,890 supported Rudd's fight for free speech. Gideon, thank you so 2196 02:19:55,890 --> 02:19:58,950 much for joining me. What did the judge find exactly? Well, 2197 02:19:58,950 --> 02:20:02,250 the judge found Essentially that every action the university took 2198 02:20:02,250 --> 02:20:04,890 against pader, whether it be the sensors, whether it be the gag 2199 02:20:04,890 --> 02:20:07,980 orders, and whether it be in fact is like Final second, we're 2200 02:20:07,980 --> 02:20:11,280 all invalid. They're all measurements that shouldn't have 2201 02:20:11,310 --> 02:20:14,970 happened because they overrode and contravene Peters right to 2202 02:20:14,970 --> 02:20:16,890 free speech and free intellectual expression 2203 02:20:16,920 --> 02:20:21,150 expression that's contained in his ABA. So all of what Peter 2204 02:20:21,150 --> 02:20:24,480 suffered from kotaki out against the climate change orthodoxy 2205 02:20:24,480 --> 02:20:27,720 everything that he was hit by, for speaking against the so 2206 02:20:27,720 --> 02:20:30,750 called settled science of the reef was in danger was all found 2207 02:20:30,750 --> 02:20:33,630 to be invalid because he was protected for free expression is 2208 02:20:33,630 --> 02:20:36,000 the Great Barrier Reef dying. Now, 2209 02:20:36,180 --> 02:20:40,200 the reef is in fantastic shape. I often say that it of all the 2210 02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:42,990 ecosystems in the world, possibly with the exception of 2211 02:20:42,990 --> 02:20:45,720 Antarctica, the Great Barrier Reef is one of the best 2212 02:20:45,720 --> 02:20:46,680 preserved there is. 2213 02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:50,400 So Peter, what would you say to the naysayers and the usual 2214 02:20:50,400 --> 02:20:53,880 suspects who would paint you as somebody who doesn't care about 2215 02:20:53,880 --> 02:20:56,040 the environment? Well, you 2216 02:20:56,040 --> 02:20:58,500 know, I come from an environmentalist family, 2217 02:20:58,530 --> 02:21:01,230 right from a very early age. You know, being the environmental 2218 02:21:01,230 --> 02:21:04,050 organizations. I used to be president of the local branch of 2219 02:21:04,050 --> 02:21:05,910 the wildlife Preservation Society. 2220 02:21:06,510 --> 02:21:08,010 I'm an environmentalist. 2221 02:21:11,880 --> 02:21:16,050 In 1977, the worst winter in a centuries bucked the United 2222 02:21:16,050 --> 02:21:16,650 States. 2223 02:21:21,300 --> 02:21:23,610 Cold and ripped the Midwest for weeks on 2224 02:21:26,220 --> 02:21:30,150 great blizzards, allies and cities of the Northeast. One 2225 02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:33,600 desperate night in Buffalo, eight people froze to death in 2226 02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:38,850 green cars. emotionaler was on the road at night, traffic just 2227 02:21:38,850 --> 02:21:42,330 absolutely stacked, who was afraid of being stuck in the car 2228 02:21:42,330 --> 02:21:47,430 all night long, with the cold and the wind running out of gas. 2229 02:21:47,490 --> 02:21:52,740 And then what? I think that if we had to go through a real bad 2230 02:21:52,740 --> 02:21:56,640 winter, just like we just went through. I think we have to 2231 02:21:56,640 --> 02:21:58,080 think about moving from place. 2232 02:21:59,460 --> 02:22:04,320 Move where the brutal buffalo winter might become common all 2233 02:22:04,320 --> 02:22:08,730 over the United States. Climate experts believe the next Ice Age 2234 02:22:08,760 --> 02:22:12,810 is on its way. According to recent evidence, it could come 2235 02:22:12,810 --> 02:22:14,700 sooner than anyone expected. 2236 02:22:17,520 --> 02:22:20,550 And weather stations in the Far North. temperatures have been 2237 02:22:20,550 --> 02:22:22,110 dropping for 30 years. 2238 02:22:24,390 --> 02:22:28,020 Long three of summer ice are now blocked year round. 2239 02:22:29,730 --> 02:22:33,900 According to some climatologists within a lifetime, we might be 2240 02:22:33,900 --> 02:22:35,700 living in the next Ice Age. 2241 02:22:42,180 --> 02:22:43,680 Wow, john, You've outdone yourself. 2242 02:22:44,940 --> 02:22:49,470 But thanks. Because of the database, it turns out Who knew? 2243 02:22:50,370 --> 02:22:55,290 Well, that's my Tourette's as you say. Yes, finally. well 2244 02:22:55,290 --> 02:23:00,240 organised. Well, I'm missing a lot unfortunately. I just didn't 2245 02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:02,820 have any more but it sounds like you had some stuff going going 2246 02:23:02,820 --> 02:23:06,480 way back before my database. I think it must be yours. No, no, 2247 02:23:06,480 --> 02:23:11,340 no. It's a database random I was just ran with them and the ones 2248 02:23:11,340 --> 02:23:14,490 that there were boring ones that were left on the cutting room 2249 02:23:14,490 --> 02:23:17,730 floor, but most of these were kept people listening, I'm sure. 2250 02:23:18,420 --> 02:23:21,510 Alright, everybody well on the next show, but we'll be back. 2251 02:23:21,510 --> 02:23:23,820 We'll tell you what we're doing on that one. I think you'll 2252 02:23:23,820 --> 02:23:27,510 enjoy that as well. In the meantime, remember, we've got 2253 02:23:27,930 --> 02:23:31,710 Episode 1337 coming up, that's the lead it'll be celebrated on 2254 02:23:31,710 --> 02:23:36,480 1338 and coming to you from a vacation destination in the 2255 02:23:36,480 --> 02:23:39,570 morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon 2256 02:23:39,570 --> 02:23:43,770 Valley where I remain i'm john C. De Boer. I will see you on 2257 02:23:43,770 --> 02:23:51,090 the next show. On Sunday. Until then Adios, mofos and such.org 2258 02:23:51,330 --> 02:23:52,020 slash