1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,170 Yo mo facts with Adam curry from May 21 2022 It's episode number 2 00:00:07,170 --> 00:00:12,930 81, y'all. That's right. That's my Texas drawl y'all. 95 degrees 3 00:00:12,930 --> 00:00:17,280 here in Texas. What are we? May you kidding me? I'm Adam curry 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,500 coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country feeling 5 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:22,140 region number six and it's time once again to spin the Wheel of 6 00:00:22,140 --> 00:00:24,450 topics from here to Northern Virginia. I wonder what the 7 00:00:24,450 --> 00:00:27,480 temperature is? Let's find out. Please say hello to my friend on 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,040 the other end. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mo facts. I know 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:37,110 Adam. Mo I'm always good when I hear your sultry tones brother. 10 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:43,800 How we made it's one of my speaking hot weather. This is 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,140 the perfect home for the intro. 12 00:00:46,380 --> 00:00:50,340 Yeah, we got a little summertime. Early summertime. 13 00:00:50,340 --> 00:00:50,460 It's 14 00:00:50,460 --> 00:00:53,190 like 90 degrees. It was like 95 here yesterday. 15 00:00:53,220 --> 00:00:56,070 It's just insane. What's going on? They got it. They keep 16 00:00:56,070 --> 00:00:59,070 turning on HAARP to ruin our food supply or something. I 17 00:00:59,070 --> 00:01:02,010 don't know what's going on and the bad is really bad. How's 18 00:01:02,010 --> 00:01:03,300 everything going? Oh, you cool? 19 00:01:03,870 --> 00:01:10,020 Everything's going well. I'm almost done. Talking about 20 00:01:10,350 --> 00:01:13,410 eating some Banana Nut Bread. It almost took me out here but I'm 21 00:01:13,410 --> 00:01:13,800 good. 22 00:01:14,460 --> 00:01:18,030 But are you allergic for nuts? Or for bananas? 23 00:01:18,420 --> 00:01:22,140 No, it was actually just choked on a piece of it. Not too bad. 24 00:01:23,580 --> 00:01:28,110 Like it was slightly strangle but it almost I'm sorry. Yeah, 25 00:01:28,140 --> 00:01:29,670 but now everything's going good. 26 00:01:30,539 --> 00:01:33,269 Everything's real good man. It's just it's it's a little bit too 27 00:01:33,269 --> 00:01:36,779 warm. We actually went to the keeper and I went to South 28 00:01:36,779 --> 00:01:40,109 Carolina Charleston for a big meetup. And I gotta tell you it 29 00:01:40,109 --> 00:01:42,989 was yeah, it was a no agenda meetup. It was also like a 30 00:01:42,989 --> 00:01:46,769 podcasting. 2.0 meet up and it wasn't mo facts meetup. It was 31 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:50,489 it was fantastic. I met Roger roundy artists to the stars and 32 00:01:50,489 --> 00:01:54,839 to the biggest podcast in the world who has done some dynamite 33 00:01:54,869 --> 00:01:56,429 mo facts T shirts. 34 00:01:56,820 --> 00:02:01,560 And and the official logo for the thumbnail. Yes. That will 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,010 use Yeah, we'll just give him his props. And did you receive 36 00:02:05,310 --> 00:02:06,600 anything while you were there? 37 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:11,070 I was. I received a lot of things. Mo What exactly are you 38 00:02:11,070 --> 00:02:13,620 talking about? Are you talking about something that I'm 39 00:02:13,650 --> 00:02:16,950 specifically would like? Yes, yeah, I've received all that. 40 00:02:16,950 --> 00:02:20,850 Everything's good. Okay, thank you very much. You know, and 41 00:02:20,850 --> 00:02:23,250 people like, Hey, man is Mo here. I said, I don't know he 42 00:02:23,250 --> 00:02:25,830 could be a bald white Jewish guy. I don't know. I've never 43 00:02:25,830 --> 00:02:33,780 seen no idea. I have no idea man mo Shlomo Shlomo facts, there 44 00:02:33,780 --> 00:02:38,940 you go. It's real good to talk with you. Now. Actually, before 45 00:02:38,940 --> 00:02:42,270 we start, I gotta throw out a sad puppy here for a moment 46 00:02:42,270 --> 00:02:45,660 because, you know, we moved the show to every two weeks, we 47 00:02:45,660 --> 00:02:49,350 tried to stay on schedule. Sometimes, you know, stuff just 48 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:53,220 gets in the way and everyone's really busy. Moe, you know, had 49 00:02:53,220 --> 00:02:57,660 to quit his job several months ago. And I convinced him that 50 00:02:57,690 --> 00:03:02,640 you know, this podcast could be his income. And of course, like 51 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:06,330 a smart guy that he is he has another thing that he's doing 52 00:03:06,930 --> 00:03:12,060 while working on all things fax machine, you know, the fax fam, 53 00:03:12,270 --> 00:03:15,300 this podcast, all of it. And I just looked at them that 54 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:18,060 donations I just want to say I want everyone to listen really 55 00:03:18,060 --> 00:03:23,640 carefully to this show. To the end, bear in mind, there's 44 56 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:26,910 clips that have been selected curated, there's an entire story 57 00:03:26,910 --> 00:03:29,970 that's going to be laid out for you and just ask yourself if 58 00:03:29,970 --> 00:03:33,120 that's worth anything to you. And if the work that goes into 59 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,850 it is something that you would like to return some value for. 60 00:03:35,850 --> 00:03:38,280 So when we get to our donation segment, it'll be short. 61 00:03:40,290 --> 00:03:42,540 More show more. Yes, 62 00:03:42,570 --> 00:03:46,080 yes, more Sure. And I know I know times are hard for 63 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,830 everybody and we had Tax Day and everything but it's got to be 64 00:03:49,830 --> 00:03:52,710 said this is how the model works if we're not getting the value 65 00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:58,620 back. I know Mo has other things to do. So let's not force him 66 00:03:58,620 --> 00:03:58,920 there 67 00:04:02,730 --> 00:04:04,320 the business is out of the way yeah, let's 68 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,480 let's spin the wheel for a second. Let's find out what is 69 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,260 the topic for more facts with Adam curry episode number 81 70 00:04:10,260 --> 00:04:13,440 Round around the wheel goes where it stops nobody knows but 71 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,880 Moe knows where it is the topic for episode 81 is 72 00:04:17,909 --> 00:04:19,589 you can never be Tupac. 73 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,200 And you could never be 74 00:04:22,470 --> 00:04:24,270 Tupac and he can never be 75 00:04:24,420 --> 00:04:25,980 he can never be Tupac 76 00:04:28,050 --> 00:04:32,700 voice I just got to stop stop for a minute you asked me how I 77 00:04:32,700 --> 00:04:39,270 was doing well but the black men Coalition have ticker har L this 78 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,920 since we've last so yeah, Samuels passed away and I want 79 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,550 to put much respect on his name. I know he's a very polarizing 80 00:04:47,550 --> 00:04:50,700 figure but you know as we do around here, if nothing more we 81 00:04:50,700 --> 00:04:54,150 human OS people saw well either brother rest in peace indeed. 82 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:58,020 And and it was a shock to me, because you sent me the link 83 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,100 because of course You know, a black man dying doesn't show up 84 00:05:02,100 --> 00:05:06,450 on my Twitter timeline please. And it's just like wow, it was 85 00:05:06,450 --> 00:05:09,630 shocking to me because I've watched his stuff a lot. I've 86 00:05:09,630 --> 00:05:12,690 always I've always enjoyed what he has to say and I think he has 87 00:05:12,690 --> 00:05:17,010 a lot of really valid points and very low facts attitude towards 88 00:05:17,010 --> 00:05:19,470 things I understand why he was polarized do we know what he 89 00:05:19,470 --> 00:05:22,380 passed away from it was this sudden unexpected 90 00:05:22,860 --> 00:05:27,090 the official word is not out yet or something concerning his 91 00:05:27,090 --> 00:05:30,900 heart like I said, it's just that that's that's a hard and 92 00:05:30,900 --> 00:05:34,260 right there because what we always talk about independent 93 00:05:34,260 --> 00:05:38,100 media and that's what allows for different viewpoints. But that's 94 00:05:38,100 --> 00:05:40,650 not what this show was about. But I had to use his voice for 95 00:05:40,650 --> 00:05:43,770 the ISO yeah to show much respect put a lot of respect on 96 00:05:43,770 --> 00:05:48,060 his name. But we got to talk about the Will Smith and this is 97 00:05:48,060 --> 00:05:48,750 what we've all been 98 00:05:48,750 --> 00:05:52,890 waiting for this. Oh, yeah. Oh, I wish you could see my face now 99 00:05:52,890 --> 00:05:57,420 moment. Oh, by the way, I'm sorry to interrupt. We tested 100 00:05:57,420 --> 00:06:03,060 yesterday we tested podcasting. 2.0 live with video and and, and 101 00:06:03,060 --> 00:06:07,350 the booster grams, which is the like YouTube, Super Chat. We 102 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:10,980 added. It's still baling wire and gaffer tape and stuff. But 103 00:06:10,980 --> 00:06:16,230 mo it's work and I actually I streamed myself, which is 104 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:20,640 against all of my principles. I streamed myself live and I did 105 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,560 it through stream yard and everything works. So we're 106 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,270 getting very close to being ready for 107 00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:27,840 like a YouTuber. 108 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:32,670 YouTube killer is what I'm building for you mo I'm building 109 00:06:32,670 --> 00:06:34,380 it for you for nobody else. 110 00:06:34,679 --> 00:06:37,739 And for all the people that want to have the freedom of speech. 111 00:06:37,769 --> 00:06:41,129 That's the big thing, because we see what's going on now. But not 112 00:06:41,129 --> 00:06:43,349 to belabor that I know everybody's on pins and needles 113 00:06:43,349 --> 00:06:47,609 to get to the episode. But one more thing about the same 114 00:06:47,609 --> 00:06:54,749 situation. Yeah. You got to see real time after show ad. How 115 00:06:54,779 --> 00:06:58,289 black ugly black Twitter can be or saying Black Twitter can be 116 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:04,259 Yes, again. So that was the sad part about it. And I guess we 117 00:07:04,259 --> 00:07:08,459 can go and get started. Now this is this is we got to start at 118 00:07:08,459 --> 00:07:11,519 the beginning. This is we'll Packard talking to Tiffany cross 119 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:14,399 about the money for Academy Awards. 120 00:07:14,970 --> 00:07:18,210 All right, next Sunday is the 94th Annual Academy Awards this 121 00:07:18,210 --> 00:07:21,390 year is already bound to be different with three Women's 122 00:07:21,390 --> 00:07:26,040 Center hosts and the one and only Will Packer FAMU alum and 123 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,120 big time Hollywood mogul heading up the Oscars first ever black 124 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,390 production team. I am so thrilled and excited to welcome 125 00:07:33,390 --> 00:07:34,530 will Whoa. 126 00:07:35,070 --> 00:07:41,070 Hey, I didn't know that. What the whole production team was 127 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:42,450 quote unquote, black, 128 00:07:43,020 --> 00:07:47,160 except for the host, obviously. Production. But did you catch 129 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:53,970 that while we got the clip stop? Three women. Yeah. Various hues. 130 00:07:53,970 --> 00:07:55,590 But I mean, we can continue on 131 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,160 production team. I am so thrilled and excited to welcome 132 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,340 Will Packer How you doing this morning, brother? So happy to 133 00:08:02,340 --> 00:08:04,890 have you on the show. And thank you for being here. 134 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:11,610 Are you of course you could mean when you call I answered HBCU 135 00:08:11,610 --> 00:08:14,250 family in the house. I appreciate you and all you do 136 00:08:14,250 --> 00:08:15,000 and how you feel it. 137 00:08:15,330 --> 00:08:17,640 I'm feeling great now that you're sharing the screen with 138 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,830 me. And I want to get right into it because there's a lot 139 00:08:19,830 --> 00:08:22,140 happening in the world right now. And you know, pulling 140 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:25,200 together a glamorous award show is frequently prime for making 141 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,190 political points. One of your co hosts Amy Schumer, she suggested 142 00:08:29,190 --> 00:08:32,400 Ukraine's President make an appearance. So President 143 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,400 Vladimir Zelensky. As I found that really interesting one, 144 00:08:35,430 --> 00:08:38,400 will we see Zelinsky at the Academy Awards and to how 145 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,410 political Do you anticipate this event being? 146 00:08:40,470 --> 00:08:43,350 That's a good question, you know, and I will tell you and to 147 00:08:43,350 --> 00:08:47,100 her credit, Amy is always somebody who wants to push the 148 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:49,380 envelope in a variety of ways, and not that this is 149 00:08:49,380 --> 00:08:52,680 particularly envelope pushing, but she is somebody who, not 150 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:55,530 even just with political statements of social impact, but 151 00:08:55,530 --> 00:08:58,020 also just in terms of entertainment values, comes in 152 00:08:58,020 --> 00:09:01,320 with a ton of really, really great ideas. And so what I was 153 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,490 saying, I can't reveal anything specific yet. But the show still 154 00:09:05,490 --> 00:09:07,860 coming together still in process, even though it's you 155 00:09:07,860 --> 00:09:11,910 know, just a week away. It all comes together very, very 156 00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:15,450 quickly at the end, when I say just kind of overall is that we 157 00:09:15,450 --> 00:09:18,150 want the show to be fun and entertaining. I think there are 158 00:09:18,150 --> 00:09:22,290 a lot of spaces and platforms that are discussing what we all 159 00:09:22,290 --> 00:09:25,500 know is a very tumultuous time in the world. And it has been 160 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:27,840 the last couple of years when I want this to be funny as an 161 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,200 escape. I really do. I want it to be a celebration. I wanted to 162 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,950 be a night the tone of it should be fun and uplifting. And it 163 00:09:34,950 --> 00:09:37,560 should also be something that it's not just about just the 164 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:38,430 Hollywood elites. 165 00:09:40,410 --> 00:09:43,050 What was entertaining maybe not in the way they intended 166 00:09:43,380 --> 00:09:47,010 and then pushing envelopes. Yeah, there was there was 167 00:09:47,010 --> 00:09:53,520 definitely envelopes to be pushed or conversation and to be 168 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,300 ignited from this event happening. Now I have to caution 169 00:09:57,300 --> 00:10:01,680 people. I've done I've talked about this On several occasions 170 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,860 on the YouTube channel, but this is the first time me you 171 00:10:04,860 --> 00:10:09,720 actually talked about it in detail. But how you alerted me 172 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:15,180 was Chris Rock. Just say Chris Rock started real. Yeah, please, 173 00:10:15,180 --> 00:10:15,540 please. 174 00:10:16,350 --> 00:10:18,540 Well, I can probably look it up exactly. But yeah, I think 175 00:10:18,540 --> 00:10:24,120 that's what I said is almost have it here. Yeah Chris Rock 176 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,560 just touch the third rail. And I think I said he slapped the crap 177 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:30,510 out of Wilson 178 00:10:31,710 --> 00:10:36,750 Will Smith just beat slap Chris Rock? Yeah, that's what it was 179 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,520 key came up there and said something witty or funny or that 180 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:47,190 way it was like, okay, you know, saying I was shocked. I asked 181 00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:52,140 Chris Rock, so it wasn't too later. I think Gropp hit me up. 182 00:10:52,140 --> 00:10:55,680 It was like, Did you see the video? And I was like, What in 183 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:01,680 the world had exploded? So it was just funny how we said that. 184 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:04,830 I took it as the laughing it will be with 185 00:11:05,310 --> 00:11:08,850 physical physical violence. Yeah. Just one thing about Amy 186 00:11:08,850 --> 00:11:13,920 Schumer. I actually thought she was pretty good. She made me 187 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,740 laugh a couple times. And I was like, Oh, that's interesting, 188 00:11:16,740 --> 00:11:20,970 because I'm not an Amy Schumer fan. And moreover, not a fan 189 00:11:20,970 --> 00:11:25,110 because I heard that I think I can say this. Joe Rogan told me 190 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,190 that comedians hate her because she's a joke stealer. 191 00:11:30,570 --> 00:11:31,950 And that's like, the lowest thing that's the 192 00:11:32,190 --> 00:11:35,580 lowest of the lowest. Yeah, you cannot be much worse than that. 193 00:11:35,580 --> 00:11:40,110 Yeah. So take that for what it is. And again, I'm not a fan. I 194 00:11:40,110 --> 00:11:43,920 like Dr. Cheese very well, because I don't like her in real 195 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,660 life. But what she did was pretty funny. I thought it was 196 00:11:45,660 --> 00:11:48,450 okay for as long as it lasted. It was no somebody was 197 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:52,110 inappropriate. You know, it's feeling guys up and feeling 198 00:11:52,110 --> 00:11:55,320 their butts like Okay, since when is that okay? And wake in 199 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,130 woke world. 200 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,670 And it was some of that at the Oscars as well. But I guess now 201 00:11:59,670 --> 00:12:03,180 we gotta get to, because we're gonna talk about Amy Schumer 202 00:12:03,210 --> 00:12:08,310 Schumer a little bit later. Cuz he plays this a weird or strange 203 00:12:08,310 --> 00:12:12,600 roll in the black Oscars, quote unquote, black Oscars is like, 204 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:18,810 Okay, we'll get there. Now. This is after the fat will packers 205 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,660 interviewed about the moment it's done in the world. 206 00:12:21,990 --> 00:12:27,120 It sounds like Chris Rock had the ability the option to have 207 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,640 the LAPD go arrest and remove. Will Smith from the theater 208 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,210 that night. That's an absolute fact the LAPD made it clear. We 209 00:12:36,210 --> 00:12:40,980 will do whatever you want us to do. And one of the options is 210 00:12:40,980 --> 00:12:49,140 that we will go and arrest him right now. Wow. 211 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,980 Well, Swift is smacked out of it. 212 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,330 That moment came after what we now know was an unscripted joke 213 00:12:57,330 --> 00:13:00,360 from rock about Smith's wife Jada Pinkett Smith, who's 214 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,700 recently been vocal about her battle with alopecia. 215 00:13:02,970 --> 00:13:06,420 Jane, love Yu Gi Jane to can't wait to see it. 216 00:13:08,490 --> 00:13:11,340 You're sitting monitors around you tell me what's in your room 217 00:13:11,340 --> 00:13:11,550 around. 218 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:16,620 I said, watch this. He's gonna kill because I knew he had an 219 00:13:16,620 --> 00:13:19,770 amazing lineup of jokes that we had, we had him in the prompter. 220 00:13:20,130 --> 00:13:25,170 And ultimately, he did not get to one joke. He didn't tell one 221 00:13:25,170 --> 00:13:29,430 of the plan jokes. He was just immediately freestyling but I 222 00:13:29,430 --> 00:13:32,580 thought this was part of something that Chris and will 223 00:13:32,580 --> 00:13:35,130 were doing on their own. I thought it was a bit I thought 224 00:13:35,130 --> 00:13:37,650 it was a bit like everybody else. I practiced it not 225 00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:40,500 concerned when he started as he's walking. I figured okay, 226 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:43,530 you know, he's gonna say something to come at him 227 00:13:43,530 --> 00:13:46,710 Something funny is going to happen because that's the nature 228 00:13:46,710 --> 00:13:50,640 of Chris and that's the nature of will so let's see what 229 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,000 happens 230 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,020 that is Yeah, that's true. That's what everybody expected 231 00:13:55,020 --> 00:13:58,500 until of course we all found sought quickly that it wasn't a 232 00:13:58,500 --> 00:14:02,970 bit or at least wasn't supposed to be it didn't end as a bit 233 00:14:05,700 --> 00:14:09,480 and that's the million dollar question that that waited so 234 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,810 long for the other shoe to drop to make the show to have 235 00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:17,100 something definitive if it was staged or not. Because as you 236 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:21,300 heard, Will Packer say no, he said none of the putting the 237 00:14:21,300 --> 00:14:27,390 plan jokes. He's just came up there in this freestyle, which 238 00:14:27,390 --> 00:14:30,990 is weird strange to do but it will fit to leaning to the side 239 00:14:30,990 --> 00:14:34,830 of being stage. Now I have to ask you which side are you on? 240 00:14:34,830 --> 00:14:41,280 Was it stage or do you think it was real real or not? I think it 241 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,850 was are you are you are starting I gotta give you out. 242 00:14:45,180 --> 00:14:52,800 No, I'm the what I saw looked like every movie slap I've seen 243 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,670 so these are. It looks to me like two guys who who definitely 244 00:14:56,670 --> 00:15:01,170 had have trained in the art of making a punch or slap or 245 00:15:01,170 --> 00:15:06,240 something look real. I think that's what a lot of people saw. 246 00:15:06,810 --> 00:15:10,500 Or at least it kind of felt that way it was you know, I've of 247 00:15:10,500 --> 00:15:13,590 course I've watched the video in slow motion is very hard to tell 248 00:15:13,590 --> 00:15:17,280 I don't know but that's why it's good. So these guys either they 249 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,130 had rehearsed this or they've rehearsed they've done this 250 00:15:20,190 --> 00:15:23,250 enough to know how it works and so you're just kind of standing 251 00:15:23,250 --> 00:15:26,160 in that stance that it might have been muscle memory at that 252 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,470 point actually, just listening to that clip. Now let's just 253 00:15:31,470 --> 00:15:32,220 listen to it again. 254 00:15:32,460 --> 00:15:36,000 All right, next Sunday is a nice and up the Oscars first 255 00:15:36,030 --> 00:15:38,700 was that no, I'm sorry. It was this. I just wanted to hear that 256 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:39,570 moment. Again. 257 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,510 It sounds like Chris Rock girthy 258 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,160 asked him right now. 259 00:15:50,250 --> 00:15:53,310 That sounded like a microphone being hitting him being hit. 260 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,470 It doesn't want him to think yes, 261 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:58,260 that's it. I'm an audio guy. So I listened to this I'm like, 262 00:15:58,410 --> 00:16:01,380 that doesn't sound like someone got slapped this Listen again. 263 00:16:02,370 --> 00:16:07,710 Oops. Is that we will go and arrest him right now. 264 00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:15,720 Just didn't sound right. It didn't look right to me. And of 265 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,290 course the only reason why it what was shocking was not even 266 00:16:19,290 --> 00:16:21,570 that it's like oh man, maybe these guys just like to slap 267 00:16:21,570 --> 00:16:23,820 each other there's you know, there's trends on Tik Tok for 268 00:16:23,820 --> 00:16:28,020 that too but when he started saying keep you can my wife's 269 00:16:28,410 --> 00:16:32,730 name out of your effing mouth you know so that may be that 270 00:16:32,730 --> 00:16:34,920 part was unscripted I don't know but 271 00:16:35,490 --> 00:16:38,610 that's the weird cuz like He's everything up to this lap. Yep, 272 00:16:38,610 --> 00:16:44,820 say what Mitch what was said after the slap wheels part he's 273 00:16:44,850 --> 00:16:50,490 he's on top you're seeing top five actors all time. So I mean 274 00:16:50,490 --> 00:16:54,750 that that's easy for him to do. What was impressed me if it was 275 00:16:54,750 --> 00:16:58,770 at noon was Chris Rock. And the way he kind of is like last 276 00:16:58,770 --> 00:17:05,670 word, so was it that because we we say staged it could be pre 277 00:17:05,670 --> 00:17:08,850 planned on wheels part like if he said anything about Jamie 278 00:17:08,850 --> 00:17:11,910 this is wrong way to do it and not and not be upset about it 279 00:17:11,910 --> 00:17:14,640 because he was actually laughing. When he first said the 280 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,410 joke. It was like somebody got a teacup out. You're saying and 281 00:17:19,410 --> 00:17:23,850 started isn't stirring it. Like, get out. I mean, get out style. 282 00:17:24,180 --> 00:17:26,670 And trigger. He's like MK keys. 283 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,530 Yes. That's even texted me that so now J to hold his MK keys. 284 00:17:31,530 --> 00:17:36,240 I'm like, Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That sent me down a whole rabbit 285 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,800 hole. I'm glad we're doing this episode. 286 00:17:37,860 --> 00:17:40,650 Right. So where are we going? I wanted to get that out of the 287 00:17:40,650 --> 00:17:45,060 way, because now we're going to discuss this solely as if it was 288 00:17:45,060 --> 00:17:52,080 staged, who has the clout to make this call on this stage? 289 00:17:52,380 --> 00:17:57,480 And this night, the 94 Academy Awards, the black Oscars. 290 00:17:58,830 --> 00:18:06,810 Let's see what happens. Name. I'm going to Okay. 291 00:18:07,409 --> 00:18:12,389 Once I saw will yelling at the stage was such vitriol. My heart 292 00:18:12,389 --> 00:18:17,129 dropped. And I just remember thinking, Oh, no, oh, no. Not 293 00:18:17,129 --> 00:18:21,749 like this. And Chris was keeping his head when everybody else was 294 00:18:21,809 --> 00:18:25,109 losing theirs. But my heart at that point was just in my 295 00:18:25,109 --> 00:18:27,899 stomach because of everything about it, and what it 296 00:18:27,899 --> 00:18:31,949 represented and what it looked like and who was involved. All 297 00:18:31,949 --> 00:18:38,939 of that was just, I never felt so immediately devastated, like 298 00:18:38,939 --> 00:18:39,719 I did in that moment. 299 00:18:40,050 --> 00:18:44,100 But it still wasn't until rock walked backstage that Packer was 300 00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:48,090 finally convinced that Smith had actually struck him. The winners 301 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:52,590 are walking off stage. Chris is with them. And I immediately go 302 00:18:52,590 --> 00:18:54,330 up to Chris, and you 303 00:18:54,330 --> 00:18:55,620 say what are you do what? 304 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,630 I said, Did he really hit you? And he looked at me and he goes, 305 00:19:00,660 --> 00:19:04,620 Yeah, he goes, I just took a punch from Muhammad Ali as only 306 00:19:04,620 --> 00:19:08,880 Chris can he was immediately you know, in in joke mode, but you 307 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,700 could tell that he was very much still in shock. 308 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,070 Mm hmm. Okay. 309 00:19:16,140 --> 00:19:19,740 So, obviously will packers I don't think he's an on it. 310 00:19:21,180 --> 00:19:24,780 No, it's you know, if there was something to be in on I'd look 311 00:19:24,780 --> 00:19:29,370 at all Hi. Sorry to say but I'd look at the producers. Like the 312 00:19:29,370 --> 00:19:31,710 other producers. The other 313 00:19:32,850 --> 00:19:37,200 let me start my see what he has to say about it. He sincerely 314 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,960 sound like because you get let me translate some of the things 315 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,140 he was saying. All right, he said in a very political way. 316 00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:47,130 Like all that sinking feeling. What he's actually saying is 317 00:19:47,250 --> 00:19:50,970 they let us have the Oscars day being black people. Yeah. And 318 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,210 this what happens? Oh, God, no, we're never gonna get this. 319 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,730 Yeah, you know what's interesting? I didn't know this 320 00:19:59,730 --> 00:20:03,660 was the Like Oscars? I didn't view it that way. Yeah, 321 00:20:03,660 --> 00:20:06,840 certainly not at that point the show at no point was I like, oh, 322 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,960 man, this is just black people Oscars, not not for when I'm 323 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,280 sensitive because of the show. Right. And, and, you know, my my 324 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,670 job in general. So I'm always looking at that. Now, at the 325 00:20:17,670 --> 00:20:20,640 end, at the end of the show what I have said, maybe it was a 326 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,780 little skewed in the voting maybe. But I didn't get the feel 327 00:20:24,780 --> 00:20:27,690 that it was, you know, the black Oscars, as in I didn't even know 328 00:20:27,690 --> 00:20:30,840 that it was produced by an entire quote unquote, Black 329 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,260 Team. 330 00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:34,740 And it wasn't highly touted because I had to go to Tiffany 331 00:20:34,740 --> 00:20:38,610 cross it no disrespect to her show to find, you know, the pre 332 00:20:38,610 --> 00:20:42,390 clips. It wasn't like there was a big press Run to say this is 333 00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:45,960 the black Oscars. Some of the acts like you said, I think 334 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,780 Megan the stallion performed. Yeah, that was kind of weird. 335 00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:53,520 And like, out of place, like, Okay. We've seen, I think 336 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,670 performed as well. So I mean, we've seen this before. But 337 00:20:56,670 --> 00:20:59,970 there's a reason behind this being the black Oscar so we can 338 00:20:59,970 --> 00:21:02,610 get to it. You want to say something? No, no, that's good. 339 00:21:02,610 --> 00:21:03,390 I'm all ears. 340 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,090 Do we stop at four? I think we're on fire. Yeah, we're 341 00:21:06,090 --> 00:21:06,960 on five. Yeah, here we go. 342 00:21:06,989 --> 00:21:10,559 Okay, that made that clear, like, rock. You tell me whatever 343 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:16,079 you want to do, brother. He was telling me. I'm fine. Let's just 344 00:21:16,079 --> 00:21:19,829 get past this. I'm getting out of here. I can't believe this 345 00:21:19,829 --> 00:21:25,979 happened. The LAPD came and needed to talk to Chris. And so 346 00:21:26,009 --> 00:21:32,189 they came into my office. And they were laying out very 347 00:21:32,189 --> 00:21:38,399 clearly what Chris's rice were. And they were saying, this is 348 00:21:38,399 --> 00:21:41,729 battery. We will go get him. We are prepared. We're prepared to 349 00:21:41,729 --> 00:21:44,969 get him right now. You can press charges, we can arrest him. As 350 00:21:44,969 --> 00:21:50,009 they were talking, Chris was he was being very dismissive of 351 00:21:50,249 --> 00:21:54,029 those options. He was like, No, I'm fine. He was like, no, no, 352 00:21:54,059 --> 00:21:59,909 no. And even to the point where I said, I said, rock, let them 353 00:21:59,909 --> 00:22:02,039 let them finish. And they said, you know, would you like us to 354 00:22:02,039 --> 00:22:04,019 take any action? And he said, No. 355 00:22:04,530 --> 00:22:07,800 He said, No. Yeah. 356 00:22:08,730 --> 00:22:12,300 That's interesting by itself. You know, he really hasn't made 357 00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:15,510 a statement he took no action has been kind of quiet. That's 358 00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:19,920 that. That's all very unexpected. 359 00:22:21,210 --> 00:22:25,110 I think it is. For me, it was expected. Because the less he 360 00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:29,100 talks about it, I think it helps in a couple of ways. One, where 361 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:32,940 he actually does talk about it, like an actual stand up form. 362 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:41,130 Yeah. I mean, Netflix, yeah. Blank shit, you know, that kind 363 00:22:41,130 --> 00:22:45,480 of into? I think, if this was set up, let's be clear. We're 364 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,410 going down the hoax rabbit hole. So I think that people that 365 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,280 possibly that could have set this up, wanted him to get Will 366 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:58,530 Smith arrested to make him even seem like a bigger sellout than 367 00:22:58,530 --> 00:22:58,920 they are. 368 00:23:00,330 --> 00:23:01,920 Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. 369 00:23:02,189 --> 00:23:06,089 It's a win win. I mean, you take black Oscars, you'd say we'll 370 00:23:06,089 --> 00:23:10,409 Smith out in handcuffs, because Chris Ross snitched that I mean, 371 00:23:10,409 --> 00:23:14,279 that totally. You know, that's even a bigger story. And I think 372 00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:18,569 we'll Packer was, I'm sure he was in that room. Like please 373 00:23:18,659 --> 00:23:23,219 don't make any vigorous theme it is. So Good point. Good point. 374 00:23:23,249 --> 00:23:27,749 It is beneficial for everybody to keep this quiet. So now we 375 00:23:27,749 --> 00:23:32,639 have the smack. So now we gotta go. Listen to Amy Schumer. How 376 00:23:32,639 --> 00:23:36,749 she's was traumatized by the slapping. 377 00:23:36,899 --> 00:23:38,279 Did I miss anything? 378 00:23:40,980 --> 00:23:43,470 There's like a different vibe in here. 379 00:23:44,580 --> 00:23:48,900 Amy Schumer shocked and confused like the rest of us shortly 380 00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:55,170 after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock during the Oscars. Now the 381 00:23:55,170 --> 00:23:59,520 40 year old comedian who emceed the big night is weighing in 382 00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:03,510 admitting she is still triggered and traumatized by the whole 383 00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:06,510 thing. Just a little refresher, guys, 384 00:24:06,570 --> 00:24:09,900 I'm a huge Star. Look at me. I'm at the Oscars. You 385 00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:14,580 are can you believe it? Amy co hosted the 2022 Academy Awards 386 00:24:14,580 --> 00:24:18,960 alongside Regina Hall and Wanda Sykes. And the ladies brought 387 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,250 the funny getting to 388 00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:24,540 do this with Regina and Wanda. They are such heroes of mine. 389 00:24:24,540 --> 00:24:27,510 They are comedy royalty. We've been having so much fun. I've 390 00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:30,060 enjoyed every second of getting ready with these ladies. 391 00:24:30,330 --> 00:24:34,110 But it was this joke made by Chris Rock that had everyone 392 00:24:34,110 --> 00:24:34,680 talking 393 00:24:34,980 --> 00:24:38,910 Jada? I love you. Gi Jane too. Can't wait to see it. Alright. 394 00:24:42,330 --> 00:24:45,600 Okay, so it wasn't a joke that had everyone talking. It was 395 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,200 Jada Pinkett Smith husband Will Smith's reaction to the joke 396 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:55,530 that had everyone talking. Oh, wow. Wow. 397 00:24:57,540 --> 00:25:03,300 Well, Swift is smack thought of it. Today, 398 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:09,929 out. Well, on Tuesday, Amy weighed in on Instagram saying 399 00:25:09,929 --> 00:25:13,919 that her friend Chris handled it like a pro. She calls the whole 400 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:17,639 thing so disturbing and writes that she's still in shock and 401 00:25:17,639 --> 00:25:21,659 stunned and sad. She even specifically calls out the pain 402 00:25:21,689 --> 00:25:25,589 she saw in will, quote, waiting for this sickening feeling to go 403 00:25:25,589 --> 00:25:27,659 away from what we all witnessed. 404 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:32,250 will strip the smack out of it. 405 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,580 Just want one thing, since, you know, this is what our show is 406 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:43,830 about. And it's not even because of the show at no point. When 407 00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:49,710 the when this happened, did I think, Wow, man. See, black guys 408 00:25:49,710 --> 00:25:55,440 can't keep it together? I did. I know you did. I know you did. 409 00:25:55,470 --> 00:25:58,890 And that's why I'm bringing it up. I just want you to know that 410 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,970 I do not believe that is typical nonblack thinking at that 411 00:26:02,970 --> 00:26:07,080 moment, maybe later, the suggestion comes from twitter or 412 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,460 something. But it and I'm very aware of my thinking in these 413 00:26:11,460 --> 00:26:15,120 things. It didn't didn't cross my mind that I'm just saying 414 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:19,350 that. So you know. Because I also know that that's exactly 415 00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:22,620 what you thought you're like, holy crap, this does not help 416 00:26:23,940 --> 00:26:28,800 is that there's two things one is due to what web divorced 417 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,830 called the double consciousness, the black people. Why don't we 418 00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:34,830 know how we perceive ourselves and to we know how we are 419 00:26:34,830 --> 00:26:39,030 perceived. And I liken that to you weren't going back just for 420 00:26:39,030 --> 00:26:43,230 a minute. You not wearing a mask for the first time doing Pete 421 00:26:43,230 --> 00:26:47,580 COVID I'm with you. I'm with you. You know how you feel. But 422 00:26:47,580 --> 00:26:53,430 then you could I guess, empathize or put yourself in the 423 00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:57,420 other person's shoes to say I know how I'm being perceived by 424 00:26:57,420 --> 00:26:59,880 them not wearing a mask, however, yes. 425 00:27:00,149 --> 00:27:06,449 However, however, yes. If this was set up and known and 426 00:27:06,449 --> 00:27:11,969 publicized as the first black Oscars, like a pandemic was the 427 00:27:11,969 --> 00:27:18,269 first pandemic now. It's very different with masking than not 428 00:27:18,269 --> 00:27:22,529 masking, because it's, it's more normalized. It's also normalized 429 00:27:22,529 --> 00:27:26,099 to not have a mask on. So there's, 430 00:27:26,130 --> 00:27:29,040 there's, say, a Peak Peak COVID. That's why I made that I'm 431 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,820 saying that. Um, okay. Specific point of PE when you first 432 00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:36,060 walked into a grocery store, yes. Yeah. First, that first 433 00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:36,870 brave moment. 434 00:27:37,530 --> 00:27:40,860 Now, I know. And I know this mode, because that's, that's 435 00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:46,410 because I had something my exterior showed something 436 00:27:46,410 --> 00:27:50,400 different, such as your bear with me, your exterior shows 437 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,920 black man, my exterior shows white men. My point is, is that 438 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,870 these were two superstar comedians, not black men. In and 439 00:28:00,870 --> 00:28:04,830 I believe that to be true initially at peak Oscar Moment 440 00:28:05,220 --> 00:28:08,460 that most white people did not see that the way you saw it 441 00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:08,880 either. 442 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,520 Now, you I'm not saying that. Yeah, no. 443 00:28:12,540 --> 00:28:15,660 That's different. Because what you knew was and this I agree 444 00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:18,720 with you with, of course, what you knew is, this is going to 445 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,900 have repercussions. It wasn't That's what I said specifically 446 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:25,110 at that moment. I wasn't thinking that way. I don't think 447 00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:28,440 the majority of non black people were thinking that way. Non 448 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,180 colored people, let's just say it. But you knew that that was 449 00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:36,210 going to come and and this issue would come and that would of 450 00:28:36,210 --> 00:28:39,690 course come from the black community itself. 451 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:46,920 But it was a weird situation, because by Amy Schumer, she 452 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,820 didn't want to she want to be supportive for Chris Rock, but 453 00:28:50,820 --> 00:28:54,300 not demonizing a wheel because that's why she could feel wheels 454 00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:59,880 pain, like basically in for I think for women, more 455 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:07,140 specifically is feminist. It was one, it was it was a awkward 456 00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:14,640 position to be put in to say, oh, violence is okay. And one A 457 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,540 man should take for his woman, that kind of thing. So 458 00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:20,970 yeah, that's a whole other aspect to it. You're absolutely 459 00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:23,850 right. I forgot about that. That was that was a huge aspect. 460 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,500 Yes. So when I was just this, my perception of it, I knew every 461 00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:33,210 every angle was going to be wrapping up my first thing my 462 00:29:33,210 --> 00:29:36,120 firt I mean, this is my first thought I gotta get to you. Then 463 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,570 I turned the Oscars to the Source Awards. That was my first 464 00:29:39,570 --> 00:29:44,040 thought because the sorcerer was was known for fighting me to the 465 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,750 point where it was spread to other different awards. And a 466 00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:53,160 lot of the fights before were staged to promote people's 467 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,480 albums or, you know, projects or whatever else. Yeah, it wasn't 468 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,050 like any real so that was my I thought like, oh, they didn't 469 00:30:01,050 --> 00:30:04,590 use this big stage to promote something now, we'll have a 470 00:30:04,590 --> 00:30:05,580 movie coming out. 471 00:30:06,779 --> 00:30:07,739 Of course, of course. 472 00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:09,779 What's the angle? Well, here 473 00:30:09,780 --> 00:30:12,660 was, here's the other thing. And I believe every man who's in a 474 00:30:12,660 --> 00:30:16,620 marriage or relationship did this turn to your wife or woman 475 00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:22,500 or birthing person and said, How would you feel if that's what 476 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:28,080 was my response to this joke? Did you ask Miss facts about 477 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:28,440 that? 478 00:30:28,770 --> 00:30:31,500 Let's listen to Tiffany Haddish his response? And then we'll 479 00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:32,490 talk about another side 480 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,040 was would you define tonight as uncomfortable? 481 00:30:35,910 --> 00:30:40,170 Now, define tonight is success. It was a great night tonight. 482 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,120 Okay, what did you call I seen a man stand up for his wife, which 483 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,530 we don't see that much anymore. That made me have hope. How 484 00:30:49,530 --> 00:30:49,980 about you? 485 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,250 I want to pull about I wanted your opinion on it because 486 00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:56,280 you're a comedian. And so it was that thing where like, was that 487 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,710 joke too far? How did you feel about what we'll did? Because 488 00:30:58,860 --> 00:31:01,410 you are someone who's done comedy and yet like you just 489 00:31:01,410 --> 00:31:03,060 said, you saw a man defending his wife? 490 00:31:03,270 --> 00:31:06,480 Yeah. I don't know how you felt about what you want your husband 491 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,150 to do that for you if he was clearly hurt. I mean, they put 492 00:31:09,150 --> 00:31:12,150 her face up on the spring. looked over at his wife. She was 493 00:31:12,150 --> 00:31:13,890 hurt. What would you 494 00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:17,490 I would want him to defend me the the thing that made me sad 495 00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:19,740 was like, this was a big night for will. And then you saw that 496 00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:22,860 emotion for him. And it was like, Guys, just just I can't I 497 00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:25,110 don't think I've still processed how this night went, you know? 498 00:31:26,670 --> 00:31:29,280 I just know she had to take care of business when they get out. 499 00:31:30,450 --> 00:31:35,490 Because I know my man did ever make. Yellow. 500 00:31:36,419 --> 00:31:39,959 Did you talk to other than tonight? Yeah. Did you tell them 501 00:31:39,959 --> 00:31:40,529 how you felt? 502 00:31:40,620 --> 00:31:43,500 Oh, they know how often Yes. Oh, no, I haven't. That's my 503 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:44,070 friends. 504 00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:47,640 Well, you go way back with them. To some of the 505 00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:50,970 girls trip? Yes. Yeah. They know my crazy. 506 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,290 Well, it was incredible to watch. We'll up there T one. How 507 00:31:55,290 --> 00:31:56,730 did you feel watching him give that speech? 508 00:31:57,090 --> 00:32:03,360 I felt very proud. I felt gratified. And I just hope that 509 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,490 more men are like that. Care about their families. Now, it's 510 00:32:08,490 --> 00:32:12,450 not just about you, right? It's not just about you, sir. What 511 00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:14,880 about your family, the people you create the people that help 512 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,320 you be who you are. That's important. That's what I think 513 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,370 America forgot about. 514 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,300 Wow. Okay, 515 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,390 so and this is right after the Oscars, this why play this is 516 00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:36,210 like, one of the first you know, points, like put out there. And 517 00:32:36,210 --> 00:32:39,660 that was a meme that was pushed, you know, man standing up for 518 00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:42,000 his wife, a man standing up for his wife. That's why I said, 519 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,620 Wait, we talked about on the other side of the clip. Now? Are 520 00:32:46,620 --> 00:32:49,590 there certain things where I will put my hands on another 521 00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:55,860 person? Oh, another person? I'm not gonna be that specific. Over 522 00:32:55,860 --> 00:32:58,920 my wife. Yeah, there are certain things. There are certain things 523 00:32:59,220 --> 00:33:02,400 that when you cross that line when you get back in the car 524 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,660 with her, Oh, well, you know that she'll never look at you 525 00:33:06,660 --> 00:33:12,150 the same. So there are lines? Is this one of them? I don't just 526 00:33:12,150 --> 00:33:16,080 my opinion, being if they were in Hollywood, is what happens. 527 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:21,120 Jokes are told. If it's solely that joke. No. But there's more 528 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,580 to it than that joke. Yeah, of 529 00:33:23,580 --> 00:33:27,210 course, there's more to it. And some of that is known. But my 530 00:33:27,210 --> 00:33:30,090 question was, did you discuss it with your wife? 531 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,100 No, we actually like to say we didn't. We basically we were 532 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:38,400 like, Did you see that? Yeah, that was crazy. And then more of 533 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,310 the stage conversation, but my wife already knows. Like, 534 00:33:41,910 --> 00:33:46,200 there's certain yes, there's certain laws you can cross. But 535 00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:49,290 I'll say this, because this was this was a big component of the 536 00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:53,010 gender war. He was saying it not only cut across the race. Yeah. 537 00:33:53,010 --> 00:33:56,250 Oh, yeah. I know. That's why I'm so interested in it. Yeah. It's 538 00:33:56,250 --> 00:34:00,270 the gender thing to have. Should you stand up for a woman was 539 00:34:00,270 --> 00:34:04,320 Willis sampe. Does she deserve to be stood up for because the 540 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,410 way she used humiliated him in public? All of those things 541 00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:09,300 factor into it? So 542 00:34:09,330 --> 00:34:14,250 here's sorry. So of course, I we had this discussion. And we 543 00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:18,150 probably had it after the meme was already launched. And in my 544 00:34:18,150 --> 00:34:22,170 mind, already at that point, I had a question which I was going 545 00:34:22,170 --> 00:34:27,060 to ask you, which is, is this more of a black American thing 546 00:34:27,090 --> 00:34:32,100 standing up for your woman? Going to fistfight more more 547 00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:35,760 easily, perhaps? I don't know if that's true. But that meme 548 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,220 definitely reached me. It's like, oh, well, you know, the 549 00:34:38,220 --> 00:34:40,710 black man black woman, you got to stand up for your woman. 550 00:34:40,740 --> 00:34:44,010 That's just that's just what I perceive. Not how I think. 551 00:34:44,429 --> 00:34:49,889 Right. That mean, was that mean was pushed heavily? Yes. Yes. 552 00:34:49,889 --> 00:34:50,819 Yes. Early. 553 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,070 Early. So with that in mind, Tina and I were discussing and 554 00:34:56,070 --> 00:34:59,640 we both agreed that Hell yeah, I should do something but it would 555 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,380 be either in my in my moment on stage where I'd say something 556 00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:09,480 clever and take them down with with a swift to sharp words with 557 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,360 the blade. It's I think that can be very effective. But I 558 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,760 certainly would have gone up afterwards and said, What the 559 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,360 hell was that all about bro. And now that might come to some kind 560 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,810 of altercation. But I'm not one for going for violence if 561 00:35:21,810 --> 00:35:26,970 someone does something with words and embarrassment, but I 562 00:35:26,970 --> 00:35:31,590 guess the point is, there was a lot more behind this and this 563 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,430 Tiffany Haddish meme, if it truly originated from her from 564 00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:39,180 her own thinking or was pushed this way. That definitely skewed 565 00:35:39,210 --> 00:35:40,650 a lot of the conversation. 566 00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:43,860 And that was damaged because you're because here's the other 567 00:35:43,860 --> 00:35:50,610 thing. It seemed like it caught Jada off guard. Because, and 568 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,150 After Effects, she tried to distance herself away from the 569 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:58,380 slap my audition, I really want him to do that. I'm not really 570 00:35:58,380 --> 00:35:59,640 going down that path with these. 571 00:35:59,910 --> 00:36:04,590 So I never I watched all different angles. I really look 572 00:36:04,590 --> 00:36:08,490 for angles of them. And I didn't see her looking something like 573 00:36:08,490 --> 00:36:11,730 Man, this hurts me so bad. You got to go up there and whip his 574 00:36:11,730 --> 00:36:11,970 ass. 575 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:19,170 I didn't see it. That the time after the joke. Okay, several 576 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,020 scenes that were shot. And that's why there's another 577 00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:24,990 reason why I dread doing this this audio because you had to 578 00:36:24,990 --> 00:36:28,530 see it. But I'm going to try to illustrate what what was what 579 00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:33,000 was said. He said the Joe will last. But he kind of looked over 580 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,050 in Jada. And then there's that what transpired between noon to 581 00:36:37,050 --> 00:36:39,690 and we're heading towards the stage, though several seconds 582 00:36:40,050 --> 00:36:43,590 has never been shown. I've looked on every platform 583 00:36:43,590 --> 00:36:47,550 possible. I looked at every can't find anywhere what 584 00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:52,920 transpired between her and him to signal to him that he had to 585 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:58,050 go from laughing. So he wasn't initially offended. No, there 586 00:36:58,050 --> 00:37:03,240 was something that happened between them to where he felt 587 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:04,740 like he needed to do that. Yeah, and 588 00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:07,950 I can't No one knows the secret six signals between two people 589 00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:13,440 who have been in a long term relationship, but I couldn't 590 00:37:13,470 --> 00:37:16,680 detect any I mean, the only the only thing that came to my mind 591 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:23,730 is well, yeah, I mean, this guy is so desperate, you know, okay, 592 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:33,810 from my own therapy. To me, Will has severe mother issues. She 593 00:37:33,810 --> 00:37:38,490 has taken advantage of this for long time, I was in similar 594 00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:41,760 relationships with different aspects. And by the way, no 595 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:47,070 regrets. No one's to blame. But myself, certainly I blamed 596 00:37:47,070 --> 00:37:51,270 myself for not figuring out my shit earlier in life. But that 597 00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:56,220 is it was a big component because you can have a complex 598 00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:59,130 issue with your mother. And we're all we all get screwed up 599 00:37:59,220 --> 00:38:03,840 by our parents somehow. And that can be can fit perfectly like a 600 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,580 puzzle piece into perhaps someone who has a personality 601 00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:12,810 such as Jada. And that really can just get bad over time. And 602 00:38:12,810 --> 00:38:15,750 I say this because it may be you have this clip later, there's a 603 00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:21,420 clip of her, you know, showing, you know filming will in their 604 00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:24,000 house or in his kitchen. He's like, hey, you know don't do 605 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,320 this and, and she's just acting like an a hole to him. And oh, 606 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,100 see my mom's this is exactly why will sabotage is everything. I 607 00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:35,850 mean, it was it was bizarre. And that, to me was like, oh my god, 608 00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:39,480 this is a very dysfunctional relationship. So she may not 609 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,720 have had to Eve it could have been just a tensing of her left 610 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,350 bicep that could have set him off because he so desperately 611 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,800 wants to make his mother proud and happy of him. 612 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,000 And I don't know if you've seen the two three videos I've done 613 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,650 on YouTube, but I did one way prior to this called a mother's 614 00:38:58,650 --> 00:39:05,430 will. And he talked about he's taken Ayahuasca 14 times. Oh, 615 00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:09,660 really? Yes. I'd like to say I didn't go. I didn't want to 616 00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:13,230 rehash a lot of stuff. I know a lot of our producers listen to 617 00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:16,290 all the different platforms. I didn't want to rehash a bunch of 618 00:39:16,290 --> 00:39:18,630 stuff and I will fill it in where I've captured. You are 619 00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:21,600 exactly right. He does have a mother issue because he said his 620 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,990 mother was physically abusive towards I mean, his father was 621 00:39:24,990 --> 00:39:27,570 physically abusive towards his mother. And he felt like he 622 00:39:27,570 --> 00:39:30,240 didn't want he couldn't protect her to the point he was suicidal 623 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:33,600 about it. plays into what you're, you're spot on and it's 624 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,480 good that you haven't seen it because you're hitting you're 625 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,610 picking up on all the sides without being 626 00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:41,940 this is why this show is so genius mode. This I didn't know 627 00:39:41,940 --> 00:39:45,720 Barack Obama Bruce Springsteen rip off crap. This is the real 628 00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:46,080 deal. 629 00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:53,790 Giving it to the Boston on both. But yeah, so he has all that 630 00:39:53,790 --> 00:39:57,510 going on. And let's just stop dancing around it. A lot of 631 00:39:57,510 --> 00:40:02,580 people feel that he's she's his head. handler and silver wave 632 00:40:02,580 --> 00:40:05,730 and Nick clip that you talk about that I don't have in here 633 00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:09,210 because I didn't really get into their, the inner workings of a 634 00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:11,400 relationship too much, but I think there's an underlying 635 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:16,140 theme I'm gonna get to but in that clip, he said she wanted to 636 00:40:16,170 --> 00:40:22,170 kind of ambush him to get some promo for this doctor. That 637 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:29,790 promotes um, what's it called? Um, open marriages. Yeah, 638 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,180 Esther, I forget her last name Esther without parole. I think 639 00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:36,690 it's something like that. But anyway, he was. She was like, 640 00:40:36,690 --> 00:40:39,750 No, I'm not gonna don't ambush me like that. And he said 641 00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:43,440 something. And it was very telling to me. He said, you 642 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,860 know, social media. Yeah. Bread and butter. Right? 643 00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:50,820 Yes. And I and I was like, What? What do you mean? What this 644 00:40:50,820 --> 00:40:53,490 guy's one of the biggest movie stars in the business are 645 00:40:53,520 --> 00:41:00,870 easy to tune to doom doom. Think about it. What what movie has 646 00:41:00,990 --> 00:41:06,630 blockbuster has, we'll been in several videos. And today, I'll 647 00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:10,290 talk about recently. See, and this is this thing. I mean, this 648 00:41:10,290 --> 00:41:14,580 is where, like, it's so many things that I struggle with 649 00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:18,450 making the show. It was like, because there's the theme of 650 00:41:19,050 --> 00:41:23,010 when a man is old or too old. He's not a young man anymore. So 651 00:41:23,010 --> 00:41:27,780 you can't play the young man roles. And he's not. Oh, Morgan 652 00:41:27,780 --> 00:41:32,460 Freeman. Yet? They play the old magical Negro rows? Which No, 653 00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:35,310 seriously? No, that's not a joke. But that's the archetype 654 00:41:35,340 --> 00:41:40,620 that the older guys to play. And he doesn't. He doesn't have a 655 00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:43,200 footing in Hollywood because he's not the young Independence 656 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,580 Day. Okay, actor. 657 00:41:45,509 --> 00:41:50,729 So, of course, what was the most recent So King Richard was, of 658 00:41:50,729 --> 00:41:54,059 course, this was this was the big it wasn't a blockbuster, as 659 00:41:54,059 --> 00:41:54,449 far as I 660 00:41:54,450 --> 00:41:57,960 know. No, no, but he was handpicked for this role. By 661 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,490 Serena and Venus. Yeah. 662 00:41:59,490 --> 00:42:02,280 Before before that it was I guess, men and black right. That 663 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,940 was the last the last big series dried up. He's dried up. Well, 664 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:09,690 of course, you've had three. So that's done. Okay. So he's been 665 00:42:09,690 --> 00:42:13,020 in basically in a 10 year low. Does that make sense? If we just 666 00:42:14,250 --> 00:42:18,180 Yeah. And I'm not to not Will Smith. What I'm saying is, it's 667 00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:22,380 Hollywood that somebody says that, you know, social media is 668 00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:26,820 my bread and butter that was saying, what I heard there was, 669 00:42:27,090 --> 00:42:31,980 I'm not giving away promotion for free to her. This is how I 670 00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:34,890 make my money now because I'm Hollywood checks. I'm not 671 00:42:34,890 --> 00:42:35,910 rolling in anymore. 672 00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:40,440 But how does he make his money with social media? Because I see 673 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,160 his social media. It's It's funny, you know, his Instagrams 674 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,350 are cute, and he's ripping off his family 675 00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:50,280 ads. Maybe Instagram pays him to place ads on his chair. I mean, 676 00:42:50,310 --> 00:42:53,040 I don't know how that can be monetized on Instagram. 677 00:42:53,070 --> 00:42:56,520 I gotta tell you, if he's worried, he can only be worried 678 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,610 about having work. Because when he says bread and butter that 679 00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:03,000 insinuates that it's a financial thing. That's hard for me to 680 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:03,810 imagine. 681 00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:09,660 Is it? Like you're making it? Well, there's another click, 682 00:43:09,660 --> 00:43:12,090 like if you put me in a bad spot, because now I gotta tell 683 00:43:12,090 --> 00:43:14,820 you about another clip. Okay, there's another clip where he 684 00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:19,350 comes home. And basically, Jada shoots the red tabletops in 685 00:43:19,350 --> 00:43:23,940 their house. Yeah. So their house is basically production 686 00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:29,340 stage. Now, another thing like she might be, you know, bringing 687 00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:32,280 in a significant amount of income to prepare. This is all 688 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,740 speculation we don't know we're not accountants. But when he 689 00:43:34,740 --> 00:43:37,560 said bread and butter that was like, that was a, that was the 690 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,920 most everything else that relationship. I would like bread 691 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,700 and butter. Excuse me. Yeah. Bread and butter, like a net 692 00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:48,510 goes to show you while she has to kind of, for lack of a better 693 00:43:48,510 --> 00:43:52,200 word, pimp out the family on the red tabletop. She has to keep 694 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,350 even him she brought him up in here embarrassed him about being 695 00:43:55,350 --> 00:43:55,950 a cuckold. 696 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,670 Let me tell you one other personal story. And I understand 697 00:43:59,670 --> 00:44:05,250 part of this as well. When so I had I had a big business problem 698 00:44:05,250 --> 00:44:10,260 in the Netherlands around 2000, round 99 2000, partner of mine 699 00:44:10,260 --> 00:44:14,490 turned out to be a crook. And I knew him he was a friend for for 700 00:44:14,490 --> 00:44:19,320 seven years, he had assumed identity, all kinds of crap. And 701 00:44:19,650 --> 00:44:22,440 when everything started to fall apart, there was we had 702 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,800 businesses together, investments together, all of that got locked 703 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,090 up by the law. So I in essence, had no money. I couldn't I could 704 00:44:30,090 --> 00:44:34,980 not access my money. kind of irritating. And you know, 705 00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:38,940 because it was just court cases. And it all got solved later. And 706 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,440 I was of course exonerated, but you know, the pain and the end 707 00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:46,560 and just the embarrassment and all the stuff that's going on. 708 00:44:47,130 --> 00:44:51,570 And in order to make money for my family, guess what I did? 709 00:44:55,230 --> 00:45:06,180 It's a joke. Joke. wife no clothes? No. I started the 710 00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:11,430 Addams Family reality show. And I sold it to a TV broadcaster. 711 00:45:13,410 --> 00:45:17,430 All the things you thought it wasn't that was it. Okay. And 712 00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:20,820 that got us through and I sat down with my daughter, my wife, 713 00:45:20,820 --> 00:45:24,150 I said, Look, here's how we're going to do it. We can do this. 714 00:45:24,180 --> 00:45:26,280 You know, we are we are exceptional at this kind of 715 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,700 stuff, because of course, it's anything but true reality. It's 716 00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:33,360 really Yes. But we have our filters. We know how to do this. 717 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,550 Since we've been around media so much, but it was 100% not 718 00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:41,190 because I wanted to show my family because I had I was out 719 00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:45,060 of options. So we made a reality show. So this fits into your 720 00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:48,390 theory that this red table, it's based if especially if it's in 721 00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:51,420 your house that your reality show and that's that's the way 722 00:45:51,420 --> 00:45:55,350 I've seen that thing. And that's what they're doing. So that does 723 00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:59,550 add credence to the theory that they are doing this to make 724 00:45:59,550 --> 00:46:05,040 money she's doing that will does his thing. It is kind of sad if 725 00:46:05,070 --> 00:46:08,250 you know because he had to have had some good deals in there 726 00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:10,410 certainly on even on residuals. So 727 00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:15,030 once again, but if you're spinning, yeah, you have a few 728 00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:21,510 dry years. If you don't change your lifestyle, well, it just 729 00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:23,910 speeds up the process. And that's the thing like they can't 730 00:46:23,940 --> 00:46:27,090 afford their black royalty. They're black blue, they roll 731 00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:27,330 see. 732 00:46:28,770 --> 00:46:32,280 Right You can't afford you can't go backwards. You can't be 733 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,120 caught flying coach. You can't be caught flying first class you 734 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,540 should be flying you gotta be flying private. Otherwise you're 735 00:46:39,570 --> 00:46:42,780 not royalty. It's totally true. Totally part of the deal. 736 00:46:43,380 --> 00:46:46,140 And to give you another scenario before so we can get jump back 737 00:46:46,140 --> 00:46:49,560 into the clips. You remember Megan Markel, and speaking of 738 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,300 another COC? Harry Yeah, they went to the Netflix deal. They 739 00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:59,850 had no but they had to go live in Tyler Perry's home and raise 740 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,250 cash but cash flow is different from wealth. Yeah, we don't have 741 00:47:05,250 --> 00:47:08,640 that liquid. Yeah, it's like we can't go live. We can't go live 742 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,820 in a you know, a single family home. You know, we have we have 743 00:47:11,850 --> 00:47:14,820 errands to keep up. And I'm just stressing that point. Because 744 00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:17,640 that bread and butter. I was gonna put it in here, but it 745 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,800 didn't kind of fit because I'm going somewhere else with it. 746 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,440 But I'm glad you brought it up. I appreciate that. All right. 747 00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:24,450 Bread and butter thing was like, Oh, yeah. 748 00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:28,560 So now to reward me You're gonna make me play clip by Touray I 749 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,880 mean, this is not a reward. 750 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,450 Jason Jack's Yeah. hurtin 751 00:47:33,450 --> 00:47:36,060 me. Now this is definitely Trouble. 752 00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:40,140 Trouble, but they're gonna unpack toxic Max masculinity. 753 00:47:40,380 --> 00:47:43,920 I can't say that I would have done something different. You 754 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,770 can make jokes about me all day long. And I'm gonna take it 755 00:47:46,890 --> 00:47:50,010 because Regina Hall earlier in the show made a joke about y'all 756 00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:52,380 gotta open marriage. Well, why don't you come up here and let's 757 00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:55,890 talk about that. That's about will. Right? Like you could joke 758 00:47:55,890 --> 00:48:02,880 about me, but a joke about my wife and her body. My mama, my 759 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,640 kids. Now you've gone too far, 760 00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:06,090 Mama. 761 00:48:07,170 --> 00:48:13,380 I can't, I can't roll with that. And I noticed too. Chris Rock of 762 00:48:13,410 --> 00:48:18,510 all people made a documentary called good hair, which was 763 00:48:18,510 --> 00:48:22,770 extraordinary, which he made because of his daughter's 764 00:48:22,770 --> 00:48:26,040 feelings about their hair as they were coming into being 765 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:33,060 teenagers. So he's intimately aware of black women's hair 766 00:48:33,090 --> 00:48:38,400 issues. And even still, he thought it was okay to make fun 767 00:48:38,430 --> 00:48:44,790 of a black woman not having hair in front of the entire world. I 768 00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:48,360 don't think that it matters that rock didn't know she has 769 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:53,790 alopecia. A joke that is specifically based on a woman's 770 00:48:53,790 --> 00:48:58,620 physical specific woman's physical appearance is probably 771 00:48:58,620 --> 00:49:02,940 wrong is dangerous is probably going to rub people the wrong 772 00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:06,930 way and yours in the room. That room was definitely not like a 773 00:49:06,930 --> 00:49:10,560 good joke, but room was like, Whoa, that joke was not cool. 774 00:49:12,030 --> 00:49:16,710 I don't I disagree. Yeah, man. You know, 775 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,480 that's what that room was saying. Like. 776 00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:23,490 But that was my initial reaction. Because you know, 777 00:49:23,490 --> 00:49:26,730 because of of our work together. That's why I said all men, 778 00:49:27,090 --> 00:49:29,190 you've just touched the third rail I've played that's 779 00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:35,820 interesting. One other question for you. Now this this doesn't 780 00:49:35,820 --> 00:49:39,660 work. I'm only talking about men to men, white men to white when 781 00:49:39,780 --> 00:49:43,620 men in certainly in certain states, New Jersey is where I 782 00:49:43,620 --> 00:49:47,040 spent the most time but I see it here in Texas too. You know, we 783 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,340 all have some physical or we all have something messed up, right? 784 00:49:50,820 --> 00:49:53,550 And so maybe someone's got a limp. Someone's got a hump 785 00:49:53,550 --> 00:49:57,420 someone's got tics, you know, but we call each other usually 786 00:49:57,690 --> 00:50:00,480 by our nicknames, which are really cruel. Like hey, ripple 787 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,660 Bay Baldy, you know, and and we're cool with it. 788 00:50:05,490 --> 00:50:06,810 Is this the same with black men? 789 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,850 Nicknames or not? You can't sell nickname yourself or very rarely 790 00:50:11,910 --> 00:50:15,630 Can you not self nickname but if someone comes up and says hey 791 00:50:15,630 --> 00:50:18,660 cripple Hey shorty Hey baldy, whatever then that's cool, 792 00:50:18,660 --> 00:50:19,080 right? 793 00:50:19,350 --> 00:50:24,990 That's the point I'm getting to is your nickname like you got a 794 00:50:24,990 --> 00:50:28,200 Bucky? They're saying oh you're saying like a lot of common when 795 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,300 it's like dark skinned a common black smoke right? Like skin is 796 00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:38,430 raid you're saying you got different names like a bit like 797 00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:43,170 great point have to do for Friday tiny I think in less than 798 00:50:43,170 --> 00:50:46,530 less than Yeah, debo do we already know what real debo 799 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,030 don't know the real name any tiny or you call a little guy 800 00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:54,780 big man. He was saying like that kind of thing. So because they 801 00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:55,950 all come in but it has to 802 00:50:55,950 --> 00:51:00,210 be right but so gi Jane. I mean, it starts somewhere, right? 803 00:51:00,210 --> 00:51:02,400 Someone says hey, man, I'm gonna call you read and call you 804 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,940 smoke. I'm gonna call you gi J Now gossamer sage. Maybe not 805 00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:08,490 most appropriate place. I'm just thinking. It's like, everyone 806 00:51:08,490 --> 00:51:13,650 knows each other. I mean, gi Jane. It's also kind of me 807 00:51:13,650 --> 00:51:17,070 personally. I've been called a lot of things from my hair. I'm 808 00:51:17,070 --> 00:51:22,050 not a black woman. But I play one on the radio sometimes. I 809 00:51:22,050 --> 00:51:27,480 was thinking, like, that's not even negative. Demi Moore was 810 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,170 hot in that. 811 00:51:28,860 --> 00:51:36,390 You said? Oh, cuz it's no. It doesn't matter. You can't say 812 00:51:36,420 --> 00:51:39,600 anything about the third rail. Yeah, he's yours. 813 00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:43,470 Yeah, I know. I know. I got you. I got you. You learned 814 00:51:43,470 --> 00:51:47,970 our rail of all third rail like that will be Cockerham one at a 815 00:51:47,970 --> 00:51:51,030 time it was saying we were knocking him down. But like, 816 00:51:51,090 --> 00:51:55,620 like, even he made the movie about the hair movie. But now we 817 00:51:55,620 --> 00:51:58,740 have to go back to it wasn't about the joke, because we 818 00:51:58,740 --> 00:52:01,530 laughed about it. Yeah, it wasn't how the jokes received. 819 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,180 Now going back to his Ayahuasca use. He said he met a woman 820 00:52:06,180 --> 00:52:13,230 their name mother goddess, or mother. And she like gives them 821 00:52:13,230 --> 00:52:17,460 comfort, whatever. So that goes into the mother issues. Now on 822 00:52:17,460 --> 00:52:22,590 the alopecia side of it. I watch several videos of doctors of 823 00:52:22,590 --> 00:52:29,070 doctors with alopecia themselves say they don't think ah. Jada 824 00:52:29,070 --> 00:52:31,950 has alopecia because you shouldn't have follicles live 825 00:52:31,950 --> 00:52:36,930 right. Now what she does have is a large scar in the top of her 826 00:52:36,930 --> 00:52:40,950 head. Some people say it as due to surgery, facelift that kind 827 00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:48,990 of thing as the kitty were they big enough or floppy? 828 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,190 Let me say let me say one other thing. When it comes to 829 00:52:56,190 --> 00:53:00,780 ayahuasca, I have not done Ayahuasca I have done DMT twice. 830 00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:04,980 Which to me is it's the Iosco without the puking for 24 hours. 831 00:53:05,310 --> 00:53:09,180 Okay, and but it's the what you're doing. I mean, because 832 00:53:09,210 --> 00:53:12,330 with Ayahuasca you're you're gorging yourself and so you're 833 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:17,220 you're that's how you purge. But the DMT itself, this is very 834 00:53:17,220 --> 00:53:22,470 suspicious that he met had the this is not DMT is well 835 00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:28,110 documented, really well documented. pixies things coming 836 00:53:28,110 --> 00:53:33,000 to life. Yeah. Some mother figure what what do you call it? 837 00:53:33,570 --> 00:53:37,800 Mother Goddess, Mother Goddess. It's a you won't look it up New 838 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,650 York Post article are saying we can talk about on the other side 839 00:53:40,650 --> 00:53:44,820 of the clip. But it says Will Smith takes Ayahuasca 14 times. 840 00:53:44,940 --> 00:53:49,170 Now like I said, I did this show two months prior to the slap 841 00:53:49,170 --> 00:53:52,170 because when I heard that, and this was during the rollout of 842 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,160 his book, we'll they were stressing the drama. He was 843 00:53:56,190 --> 00:53:59,820 having weight gain problems. 20 pounds overweight, which made 844 00:53:59,820 --> 00:54:03,090 him depressed. He was going through the whole thing of him 845 00:54:03,090 --> 00:54:07,110 being basically publicly cut hold by a younger man is why 846 00:54:07,140 --> 00:54:11,610 bring him on read table talk to him. And that was the if you do 847 00:54:11,610 --> 00:54:14,970 what you do, and they're cool with it, I'm cool with it. But 848 00:54:15,090 --> 00:54:17,730 the way she brought him up there, it was like, well, we got 849 00:54:17,730 --> 00:54:20,520 to do the special Facebook has big numbers on the table, you 850 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:25,350 know, saying like that's how I looked at it like cuz you're not 851 00:54:25,350 --> 00:54:29,040 gonna take me on the read table talk in the way she was smiling 852 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,670 about August Alsina, where he made her feel and that was her 853 00:54:32,670 --> 00:54:38,100 son's friend. Like I said with pop shows I could have made on 854 00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:42,750 news. Just to let you know, Tiffany Haddish and Chris Rock 855 00:54:42,750 --> 00:54:48,900 does eyewash CA I don't use the Cha Cha. I don't care ca the CA 856 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,490 so they take this stuff out. Dave Chappelle is farm because 857 00:54:53,610 --> 00:54:56,610 like you said it's so many rabbit holes like Is this the 858 00:54:56,610 --> 00:55:02,040 new LSD? Wait a minute MK Ultra? Well got what we want now today? 859 00:55:02,130 --> 00:55:02,520 Oh yeah, 860 00:55:02,550 --> 00:55:05,820 okay, no, I like going there. But this is good because I have 861 00:55:05,820 --> 00:55:13,770 some experience in this area. I believe that I've only done DMT 862 00:55:13,770 --> 00:55:19,500 twice. And oh, this is very interesting because I've been 863 00:55:19,530 --> 00:55:24,150 I've been reading a lot about how smell influences people. And 864 00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:29,160 can can be an instant can take you somewhere in an instant. If 865 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,610 you close your eyes you think, remember what's fresh grass 866 00:55:32,610 --> 00:55:35,760 smells like boom, yourself. You immediately have that picture 867 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,470 somewhere. you're smelling the fresh grass. Play a football DMT 868 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,310 Yeah, well, there you go. DMT that's an interesting one my 869 00:55:44,310 --> 00:55:49,320 like that. I'm not because I've never done Ayahuasca. So DMT you 870 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,560 smoke and that smell? I guarantee you if I smell that 871 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,470 anywhere, I can be transported right back to where I was when I 872 00:55:55,470 --> 00:56:01,020 did DMT if I did DMT a lot. I think it would possibly bring 873 00:56:01,020 --> 00:56:07,170 back a anything that I had experienced during that I've 874 00:56:07,170 --> 00:56:09,990 never had a bad DMT D trip. They're not they're not so 875 00:56:10,110 --> 00:56:16,470 they're not very typical. DMT This is so good. DMT is one of 876 00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:19,500 the most because you know when you die, you actually create DMT 877 00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:22,500 your your body creates it. It's part of how you're passing 878 00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:27,450 process. So this has been studied a lot. And it would not 879 00:56:27,450 --> 00:56:32,040 surprise me if you can put suggestive things into someone's 880 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,240 brain and trigger them with a DMT recall. I'm just using a 881 00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:40,290 term. Yeah, yeah, no, I hate this again. This is why we're 882 00:56:40,290 --> 00:56:43,650 friends. We would do this shit. Even if we weren't doing the 883 00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:45,990 show. We talk about this. Yeah, absolutely. 884 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,370 Because it's like all these people with the same play all of 885 00:56:50,370 --> 00:56:50,910 a sudden 886 00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:53,970 have debt so they're doing this a Dave Chappelle is ranch man. 887 00:56:54,420 --> 00:56:57,060 Kidding me? Oh, man, 888 00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:00,870 cuz when we got to get through the show, but women Tiffany 889 00:57:00,870 --> 00:57:06,690 Haddish che all hair off. When on La show was like, Nah, she 890 00:57:06,690 --> 00:57:09,690 was taking shrooms and drinking. He was saying they call it the 891 00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:12,360 mushroom tea. Yeah, he was saying, I don't know if it's 892 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:17,070 Coworth Ayahuasca or what? But you know, yeah, probably. Yeah. 893 00:57:17,340 --> 00:57:20,040 So they were out there they initially come back shaking 894 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,820 their head or Britney steer spirits down by himself. Allow 895 00:57:23,820 --> 00:57:27,720 them on camera. So wish that we could have went down to alopecia 896 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,570 and there was a rabbit hole or what's going on here? Do we have 897 00:57:30,570 --> 00:57:33,810 to do them a latte from Black Panther was all these black ball 898 00:57:33,810 --> 00:57:38,610 people popping up all over the place? But yeah, so it's so 899 00:57:38,610 --> 00:57:45,960 many. But we talked about black toxic masculinity. I had to 900 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,130 bring Mr. Samuels in. And I gotta say this is the first clip 901 00:57:50,130 --> 00:57:54,390 I've ever played of his on our show. And but I've talked about 902 00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:57,630 sign language from him. You're saying his impact. But we talked 903 00:57:57,630 --> 00:58:01,920 about Black Twitter last time. The black quote unquote 904 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:07,410 manosphere is the place where you get exiled to from Black 905 00:58:07,410 --> 00:58:10,680 Twitter. Right because like even thinking like the more you know, 906 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:15,540 conservative thinking, independent non democratic 907 00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:20,670 thinking of masculine sinner, you know, it was kind of like, I 908 00:58:20,670 --> 00:58:23,550 won't want to put MIG tau on it. But it was like the red pill 909 00:58:23,550 --> 00:58:27,810 kind of ideology. It was the outcast like you. This is so 910 00:58:27,810 --> 00:58:34,020 this is the king Kevin Samuels, and he talks about the Will 911 00:58:34,020 --> 00:58:35,760 Smith slap. 912 00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:39,900 You got black women and black men co signing this black man I 913 00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:44,640 want you to be clear. If you are running out defending this 914 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,800 bullshit, you need your head checked. pounding your chest 915 00:58:49,830 --> 00:58:53,670 jumping out the window defending this Captain save them kind of 916 00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:57,690 stuff. Ain't gonna get you any brownie points. What the fuck 917 00:58:57,690 --> 00:59:04,140 are we doing there? I am tired of no matter where a man black 918 00:59:04,140 --> 00:59:08,820 man gets to. We got to assert ourselves physically of fucking. 919 00:59:09,570 --> 00:59:14,490 I reject that is our only way to affirm ourselves. I'm tired of 920 00:59:14,490 --> 00:59:18,930 that shit with black men for black men. No matter how you get 921 00:59:18,930 --> 00:59:22,350 you know you can have a CEO you can have Reginald Lewis you can 922 00:59:22,350 --> 00:59:28,080 have Robert Smith and Byron Allen and Daymond John and J 923 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,980 Prince and masterpiece yell expected these dudes get into a 924 00:59:31,980 --> 00:59:36,120 disagreement that day supposed to shoot affair where they're 925 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,300 supposed to fight in a bucket out no black men are not 926 00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:47,460 primitive. This is not 2001 A Space Odyssey we have other ways 927 00:59:47,460 --> 00:59:51,390 of expressing our discontent and displeasure with one another 928 00:59:51,570 --> 00:59:58,140 other than fighting. angry and even my news supports this shit 929 00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:01,710 and says you for black men. And for black men's betterman 930 01:00:01,770 --> 01:00:05,220 Evolution improvement, black male media black male image and 931 01:00:05,220 --> 01:00:07,740 you support this question your support? 932 01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:09,270 Well, 933 01:00:09,300 --> 01:00:11,820 guys, clearly toxic male. 934 01:00:12,929 --> 01:00:18,929 Exactly. That's why I always stress black you to, quote 935 01:00:18,929 --> 01:00:25,079 unquote, is a far better spectrum of black thought 936 01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:28,319 compared to Black Twitter. Because you get it you're saying 937 01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:33,209 you get a wide variety of in between the two poles. Whereas 938 01:00:33,209 --> 01:00:38,849 Black Twitter, the algorithm is so good constrained to 939 01:00:38,849 --> 01:00:47,219 crosstraining that you only get the woke ideology. So I wanted 940 01:00:47,219 --> 01:00:51,989 to bring that in. Now what Kevin Sam just said, I agree with a 941 01:00:51,989 --> 01:00:56,009 lot of it. Because it's like this while saying about oh, no, 942 01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:59,189 that's what we'll pack. We're saying, Oh, no, we've we're 943 01:00:59,399 --> 01:01:03,179 trying to reimage ourselves and not like not that it's needed. 944 01:01:03,479 --> 01:01:08,909 But what the mass media does is take a very small minority, and 945 01:01:08,909 --> 01:01:12,689 make it the problem. I'll show this politically. Every time you 946 01:01:12,689 --> 01:01:15,299 hear a politician talk, it's like, we got to do something 947 01:01:15,299 --> 01:01:18,899 about crime. And you're saying reform and this kind of thing. 948 01:01:18,899 --> 01:01:23,309 Like, when you look at how many criminals actually is compared 949 01:01:23,309 --> 01:01:28,319 to how many dudes is doing good. It's very, you're saying is huge 950 01:01:28,319 --> 01:01:32,519 disparity there. But the way the memes are written, is to make 951 01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:36,749 sure we stay on the bottom. And I think this was, in my opinion, 952 01:01:36,749 --> 01:01:39,839 when I first heard this happened. I think this was if it 953 01:01:39,839 --> 01:01:44,039 was staged, it was staged and put us back on the bottom. And 954 01:01:44,039 --> 01:01:48,839 in a subservient, sacrificial mode that they want. They 955 01:01:48,869 --> 01:01:50,429 capitalization wants to keep us in. 956 01:01:51,210 --> 01:01:54,450 Well, they in this case, were the female producers of the 957 01:01:54,450 --> 01:01:54,900 show. 958 01:01:56,850 --> 01:02:03,300 I'm just saying. I mean, it was a lot it was a lot of pre K and 959 01:02:04,350 --> 01:02:08,280 even down to Pfizer alopecia drugs. Yeah, they ran with the 960 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,550 whole alopecia thing they ran with the whole defending his 961 01:02:11,550 --> 01:02:15,270 honor her honor. This is what we're supposed to do. And the 962 01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:20,820 thing was, this is two of the most, quote unquote non violent 963 01:02:20,850 --> 01:02:25,260 or nonviolent seeming black men in America. Yeah, they do this. 964 01:02:25,290 --> 01:02:28,770 That's, that's why I think it was a if it was staged, that was 965 01:02:28,770 --> 01:02:35,430 the purpose of it to maybe on a surface level to get ratings, 966 01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:41,130 but no. So to condemn the image of the black man. So 967 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,430 and I'm just I may be jumping ahead, tell me if I need the 968 01:02:44,430 --> 01:02:44,910 goggles. 969 01:02:44,939 --> 01:02:46,229 I'll tell you if you need to go. 970 01:02:47,490 --> 01:02:51,750 So we're already figuring out that Will Smith possibly had 971 01:02:51,780 --> 01:02:55,620 multiple reasons he felt he had to do this. One of them being 972 01:02:55,620 --> 01:03:00,510 finance. How about rock? He seems to be doing okay. 973 01:03:01,380 --> 01:03:04,920 I don't think Chris Rock was in on it. That's that's the thing 974 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:09,960 was when we say staged you can have something that's pre 975 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,100 planned. Like I know he's gonna say something you know, to Jada 976 01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:17,670 or whatever else. I don't think we'll smear Chris Rock. sat in a 977 01:03:17,670 --> 01:03:20,610 room was like a this is the plan. You know, that kind of 978 01:03:20,610 --> 01:03:24,270 thing. It was. I think Chris thought we was gonna come up do 979 01:03:24,270 --> 01:03:27,870 something funny maybe grandma Hagen Negi using that kind of 980 01:03:27,870 --> 01:03:31,290 thing and like that so it was like I'm gonna go along with her 981 01:03:31,290 --> 01:03:33,360 saying he's a profession Did you notice 982 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,140 how when he got slapped that he his hand never had that 983 01:03:37,140 --> 01:03:39,420 automatic to the face thing? 984 01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:43,440 He's actually put his hand out at bat if I remember Korea I 985 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:43,590 mean 986 01:03:43,590 --> 01:03:47,940 if someone hits you in the face I think you're first just I mean 987 01:03:47,940 --> 01:03:52,800 human responses to put a hand up to it you know like oh shit and 988 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,180 that didn't happen that way maybe 989 01:03:54,180 --> 01:03:56,700 he didn't hit his face or like to say you sound like he he said 990 01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:01,410 hit the microphone so maybe we'll sold it like all kinds of 991 01:04:01,410 --> 01:04:04,020 smack him I'm not hit the mic get a good sound out of it 992 01:04:04,020 --> 01:04:09,690 because that sound was very crucial to it as well. You know, 993 01:04:09,690 --> 01:04:13,290 saying they kept playing in the ads may not ask him in the in 994 01:04:13,290 --> 01:04:18,270 the clips. So yeah, it's just not right. That's my thing is 995 01:04:18,270 --> 01:04:23,190 just that I think that they um, if staged it wasn't for wheels 996 01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:27,150 benefit. It wasn't for Chris Ross benefit. And I don't think 997 01:04:27,150 --> 01:04:31,620 both of them were in on it. I think he could appear that way. 998 01:04:31,620 --> 01:04:34,230 Because Chris is a trained actor. He knows like okay, you 999 01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:36,540 approached me? We're gonna do something physical. You know, 1000 01:04:36,540 --> 01:04:38,970 that kind of thing. Even we'll kind of smile when he walked 1001 01:04:38,970 --> 01:04:40,740 off. Yeah, it wasn't anger. 1002 01:04:40,770 --> 01:04:45,690 Well, no, no, no. What I saw I saw Will Smith playing a role 1003 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,530 walking back. It was you know that swagger that's bad boys. 1004 01:04:49,530 --> 01:04:52,470 That's Men in Black. That's Wilson Will Smith the actor 1005 01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:54,180 swagger that's not Will Smith the person 1006 01:04:54,780 --> 01:05:00,360 right and this we talking about suggestive? I do because ANNA 1007 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:05,580 King Richard was known for being you know, protective over Venus 1008 01:05:05,580 --> 01:05:06,180 and Serena. 1009 01:05:06,330 --> 01:05:07,350 Oh yeah, he'd 1010 01:05:07,350 --> 01:05:09,990 be in the method acting role. 100% 1011 01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:12,390 King Richard 100% You bet. 1012 01:05:12,930 --> 01:05:17,610 Okay, so we agreed on that. All right, so you still with me? So 1013 01:05:17,610 --> 01:05:21,780 now we got to get into the drama behind we'll Jada and Chris 1014 01:05:21,780 --> 01:05:23,490 Yeah, yeah, 1015 01:05:23,549 --> 01:05:27,059 down to the timeline leading up to the Oscar slap. Will and 1016 01:05:27,059 --> 01:05:30,899 Chris go way back and first work together nearly 30 years ago. 1017 01:05:31,740 --> 01:05:33,780 You had some men's is Big Willie. 1018 01:05:37,590 --> 01:05:41,220 Night 1995 Chris was a guest star on the Fresh Prince playing 1019 01:05:41,220 --> 01:05:42,840 wills blind date Jasmine. 1020 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,000 Mood beaches. 1021 01:05:47,130 --> 01:05:51,900 In 1999 Kristen will reunited the premiere of The Matrix live 1022 01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:53,070 action can you fight 1023 01:05:54,210 --> 01:05:57,240 the fight in the movies? Very well. Out here in the street? 1024 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,730 No. Who could kick who's back? Everybody thinks 1025 01:05:59,730 --> 01:06:02,610 he's Apple pods do not get it twisted. 1026 01:06:06,510 --> 01:06:08,130 To make sure my honey is taken care of. 1027 01:06:08,970 --> 01:06:12,810 Six years later in 2005, Jada and Chris were the ones cast 1028 01:06:12,810 --> 01:06:17,700 together in Madagascar. Let's not talk about that. Okay, 1029 01:06:17,700 --> 01:06:21,600 Chris. All right now. The two appeared to be on good terms 1030 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,450 while doing press and even presented will with a Kids 1031 01:06:24,450 --> 01:06:25,230 Choice Award. 1032 01:06:25,379 --> 01:06:30,959 Huh? Have you ever seen that episode or Will Smith with Chris 1033 01:06:30,959 --> 01:06:34,619 Rock? No, I have not. Okay, in it. I'm gonna give you the 1034 01:06:34,619 --> 01:06:39,179 imagery. Chris Rock plays two roles. He plays kind of himself 1035 01:06:39,209 --> 01:06:45,689 and a cameo his guys named Marie something. And he's wills cousin 1036 01:06:45,689 --> 01:06:51,089 Hillary is is the daytime talk show host I believe and she 1037 01:06:51,089 --> 01:06:54,179 wants to interview him and impress him. And the deal was 1038 01:06:54,179 --> 01:06:58,169 weird wants to work for Hillary and doing so he agrees to take 1039 01:06:58,169 --> 01:07:02,969 out Chris Roberts characters cousin Jasmine, who is Chris 1040 01:07:02,969 --> 01:07:04,559 Rock in drag. 1041 01:07:05,790 --> 01:07:07,410 The ultimate for a black man. 1042 01:07:07,770 --> 01:07:12,030 The black man but it goes further. Are you talking about 1043 01:07:12,030 --> 01:07:17,820 MK Ultra? blonde wig ruby red lipstick like Ella Monroe and 1044 01:07:17,820 --> 01:07:25,110 leopard skin dress? I kid you 90s So I was like that's very 1045 01:07:25,110 --> 01:07:32,070 interesting on the on the MK yes yeah on the okay orchard. And 1046 01:07:32,070 --> 01:07:37,260 then them they are past history between Jane and Chris we don't 1047 01:07:37,260 --> 01:07:40,350 know what transpired on the set of Madagascar with them to 1048 01:07:40,350 --> 01:07:46,470 working together so there there's a lot of a lot of drama 1049 01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:50,100 there but I think we stopped it let's go ahead and go and listen 1050 01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:52,620 to Chris Rock going on a date with 1051 01:07:53,610 --> 01:07:55,980 promise me you'll be on your best behavior tonight. Hey 1052 01:07:55,980 --> 01:07:59,010 aren't always well I'm serious it's really important that 1053 01:07:59,010 --> 01:08:01,500 Maurice appear on my show everything has to go smoothly 1054 01:08:01,500 --> 01:08:02,550 with the sister tonight 1055 01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:05,760 really all kidding aside he'll I know how much this means to you 1056 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,600 and it means a lot to me too. I'm not gonna let you down Thank 1057 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,840 you may I present Miss Jasmine Perry 1058 01:08:21,270 --> 01:08:36,600 you had some men's is Big Willie I'm ready to get my free call. 1059 01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:43,680 Like you already got it listen, you wouldn't want to go 1060 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,710 someplace you notice a little quieter you may be darker 1061 01:08:48,690 --> 01:08:50,910 me Big Willie but I'm game let's do this 1062 01:08:53,130 --> 01:08:57,000 you know what I think fitness this place will be just fine 1063 01:09:01,470 --> 01:09:07,170 freak out so that's that's them Aaron together and then history 1064 01:09:07,170 --> 01:09:11,400 goes back further than that because Chris Rock present it 1065 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:16,080 Will Smith with his first Grammy. So like they know each 1066 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:21,420 other this is not just some random occurs between the two so 1067 01:09:21,420 --> 01:09:25,830 now we now we can get back to more of the behind the wheel 1068 01:09:25,830 --> 01:09:28,200 Jada and Chris nothing. 1069 01:09:29,610 --> 01:09:34,320 Then came 2016 When then host Chris cure Jada for boycotting 1070 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:35,130 the Oscars. 1071 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:41,490 Jana says she's not coming protests. is also not fed at 1072 01:09:41,490 --> 01:09:44,460 will was paying 20 million for Wild Wild West. 1073 01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:51,990 We got to keep in and throughout 1074 01:09:51,990 --> 01:09:55,350 it all Will and Jada always had each other's backs data 1075 01:09:55,349 --> 01:09:57,419 and I have you know we weathered some storms. 1076 01:09:57,480 --> 01:10:03,510 We have found so much Venus and our union. And a way that's very 1077 01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:04,620 different than most 1078 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,370 no doubt their 24 year marriage is unconventional Jada calls 1079 01:10:08,370 --> 01:10:11,640 will her life partner, not husband. They have also faced 1080 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,440 rumors of having an open marriage 1081 01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:14,730 and you're getting divorced again. Am 1082 01:10:14,730 --> 01:10:17,070 I? And I don't have a ring on. Oh, 1083 01:10:17,070 --> 01:10:18,240 it must be true. 1084 01:10:18,390 --> 01:10:20,610 Basically like, oh, he has an open relationship. 1085 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:25,620 That's not exactly the pack that we have made to one and other is 1086 01:10:25,620 --> 01:10:30,270 that I will deliver myself to her happy and she will deliver 1087 01:10:30,270 --> 01:10:31,890 herself to me 1088 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,920 happy. Yeah, 1089 01:10:34,980 --> 01:10:37,860 yeah. These kinds of deals don't work out. 1090 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,600 Now, cuz cuz Am I gonna make you want to smell like you can't 1091 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,990 make or smell and then you gonna be frowning? So I mean, there's 1092 01:10:46,020 --> 01:10:50,190 nothing this will happen with the whole August Austin thing, 1093 01:10:50,190 --> 01:10:53,040 but I don't want to go down that road too far. I want to talk 1094 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:57,780 more about that what was said at the Oscars. 2016. Just to 1095 01:10:57,780 --> 01:11:01,050 foreshadow a little bit that was the Oscar so white. 1096 01:11:01,110 --> 01:11:03,000 Yes. Yeah, hashtag Yep. 1097 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:09,420 Yes. That put with Chris in an awkward position for Jay to say 1098 01:11:09,420 --> 01:11:13,830 and we'll and hashtag to say we're boycotting the Oscars. 1099 01:11:14,610 --> 01:11:17,730 Because it was like Chris, you're not gonna boycott 1100 01:11:17,730 --> 01:11:21,690 winners. So now it makes him look like a sellout. I think he 1101 01:11:21,690 --> 01:11:25,170 felt some kind of way like, Hey, this is my big break. A big 1102 01:11:25,170 --> 01:11:28,890 chance. I mean, like, what did it mean to host the Oscars is a 1103 01:11:28,890 --> 01:11:31,440 big deal on your on your resume. Were like a checklist probably 1104 01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:35,250 for comedians, you know? Yes. It's yeah. So he's like, why 1105 01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:37,830 you're gonna do and without hosting like came their way to 1106 01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:43,590 next year. So now let's go back to him calling the cops. If he 1107 01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:48,180 calls the cops after doing this. It really makes them look like 1108 01:11:48,180 --> 01:11:48,840 the sell out. 1109 01:11:50,430 --> 01:11:53,940 Yeah, that wasn't I was a non starting option for him. 1110 01:11:54,090 --> 01:11:59,790 He could not. Will Smith. Take him out on cuffs? Because? Chris 1111 01:11:59,790 --> 01:12:03,930 Rob Porter, Takashi 690. No, that can that can not happen. 1112 01:12:03,930 --> 01:12:04,380 So. 1113 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,100 Hold on. Yeah, Takashi six, nine. 1114 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,370 Yeah, that's the rainbow Head Kid, the rat or snitch on all 1115 01:12:11,370 --> 01:12:17,610 the rappers in New York? Oh, you can't get if you didn't, that 1116 01:12:17,610 --> 01:12:20,790 you just uh, Matt, this would have been 10 times bigger story, 1117 01:12:20,940 --> 01:12:24,450 if that happened. And I'm sure the people that wargame this. 1118 01:12:24,450 --> 01:12:28,410 Like, when if we'll get arrested? That's even better, 1119 01:12:28,410 --> 01:12:31,980 like, yes, then. So that's why that Chris was totally 1120 01:12:31,980 --> 01:12:35,790 dismissive of the idea because he knew how it would be played. 1121 01:12:36,090 --> 01:12:38,910 So I think it's well played by him staying quiet and let the 1122 01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:43,560 media talk for him and let the public talk for him. So let's go 1123 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,010 ahead and I have the clip with Jada comes out. And she speaks 1124 01:12:47,010 --> 01:12:51,300 on the Oscars so white. I think she was employed to do it. But 1125 01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:54,450 we'll get there later on with this hashtag that was going 1126 01:12:54,450 --> 01:12:58,710 around. But this is her. Speaking on the 2016 Oscars. 1127 01:13:00,540 --> 01:13:02,910 Today is Martin Luther King's birthday. 1128 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,430 Aston Martin Luther King, remember that trigger? Like 1129 01:13:08,430 --> 01:13:11,400 that's that setup? Setup. 1130 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,010 Boom, right there. All right. 1131 01:13:16,110 --> 01:13:20,460 Today is Martin Luther King's birthday. And I can't help but 1132 01:13:20,460 --> 01:13:25,890 ask the question. Is it time that people of color, recognize 1133 01:13:25,890 --> 01:13:31,950 how much power influence that we have amassed that we no longer 1134 01:13:31,950 --> 01:13:38,400 need to ask to be invited? Anywhere? I asked the question 1135 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:45,900 Have we now come to a new time in place where we recognize that 1136 01:13:45,900 --> 01:13:52,620 we can no longer beg for the love, acknowledgement or respect 1137 01:13:53,370 --> 01:13:59,730 of any sender, maybe it's time that we recognize that if we 1138 01:14:00,210 --> 01:14:05,100 love and respect and acknowledge ourselves in the way in which we 1139 01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:09,900 are asking others to do that that is the place of true power. 1140 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:18,030 I'm simply asking the question. Here's what I believe. The 1141 01:14:18,030 --> 01:14:23,310 Academy has the right to acknowledge whomever they choose 1142 01:14:23,790 --> 01:14:30,390 to invite whoever they choose. And now I think that is our 1143 01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:34,620 responsibility now to make the change. 1144 01:14:38,130 --> 01:14:39,090 Okay, 1145 01:14:39,990 --> 01:14:43,560 so people say she did this because we didn't get nominated 1146 01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:47,220 for his role. I think it concussion I think it was called 1147 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:53,040 the move the NFL move. Yeah, so about CTE. Yeah. So that's why 1148 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:58,050 they say she did this. But as we talked about before, the same 1149 01:14:58,050 --> 01:15:01,650 people they asked her so why April rain and we're gonna get 1150 01:15:01,650 --> 01:15:03,030 to her momentarily. 1151 01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:07,110 Yes. Rain yes 1152 01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:12,570 use the same one behind, she will rise. The hashtag Sandpiper 1153 01:15:12,570 --> 01:15:12,990 laws. 1154 01:15:13,020 --> 01:15:15,720 Well this is her actual job. She has her job as a media 1155 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,970 strategist. This is what she does. We're living. 1156 01:15:18,510 --> 01:15:21,900 She's She's a mean Master is where she, I mean, it has I 1157 01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:25,710 mean, that's what it's all about. And these people have a 1158 01:15:25,710 --> 01:15:29,940 lot of influence. I have to ask the question, did she get Jada 1159 01:15:30,300 --> 01:15:34,320 where she co opted into it? But hey, we need a face for this. 1160 01:15:34,890 --> 01:15:39,270 Um, Jada? Can you go out and push this? Because, as we're 1161 01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:42,360 gonna hear a little bit later, I don't think we'll was fully on 1162 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:51,090 board with her tactics. It's the House Divided over and yeah, 1163 01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:55,110 they're not gonna say the same page and a lot of things. Oh, 1164 01:15:55,110 --> 01:15:55,530 no, no. All 1165 01:15:55,530 --> 01:15:57,480 right, part two of this. Yes, please. 1166 01:15:58,230 --> 01:16:02,250 Maybe it is time that we pull back our resources. And we put 1167 01:16:02,250 --> 01:16:08,250 them back into our communities into our programs. And we make 1168 01:16:08,370 --> 01:16:13,320 programs for ourselves that acknowledge us in ways that we 1169 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:18,180 see fit, that are just as good as the so called mainstream 1170 01:16:18,180 --> 01:16:30,570 ones. Here's what I do. Begging for acknowledgement, or even 1171 01:16:30,570 --> 01:16:38,970 asking, diminishes dignity and diminishes power. And we are a 1172 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,110 dignified people. And we are powerful. And let's not forget 1173 01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:50,430 it. So let's let the academy do them. With all grace and love. 1174 01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:58,890 And less do us differently. I got nothing below. A Chris. I 1175 01:16:58,890 --> 01:17:02,130 will not be at the Academy Awards. And I won't be watching. 1176 01:17:02,610 --> 01:17:05,910 But I can't think of a better man to do the job at hand this 1177 01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:11,820 year than you my friend. Good luck to the rest of you. Always. 1178 01:17:15,150 --> 01:17:20,550 That was shade at the end. Yeah, that's a phrase that again, she 1179 01:17:20,550 --> 01:17:25,290 didn't say oh, you know, you deserve this. You earned it not 1180 01:17:25,290 --> 01:17:28,320 understanding. See, there's no she said I don't think there's a 1181 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:34,650 better man for the job. Right? That can be taken her that is 1182 01:17:34,650 --> 01:17:35,970 not like as a compliment. 1183 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,420 Like you are you're hanging out your Oreo cookie. 1184 01:17:39,900 --> 01:17:43,380 That death. And can we hear that one more time? You bet. He goes 1185 01:17:43,410 --> 01:17:48,060 on to say, and then the love to everyone else. Like no love for 1186 01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:50,640 you, Chris. I mean this. Maybe I'm reaching. 1187 01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:53,400 I'm reaching. Listen again. 1188 01:17:55,470 --> 01:17:59,400 Hey, Chris, I will not be at the Academy Awards. And I won't be 1189 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,540 watching. But I can't think of a better man to do the job at hand 1190 01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:09,690 this year to you my friend. Good luck to the rest of you. Always. 1191 01:18:11,340 --> 01:18:14,670 Yeah, no, I think it could be interpreted multiple ways and 1192 01:18:14,670 --> 01:18:16,200 that's why it was constructed that way. 1193 01:18:17,730 --> 01:18:23,310 That's how I heard it because there's no better man to do the 1194 01:18:23,310 --> 01:18:27,270 job at hand. And they you just went on for three minutes 1195 01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:32,010 talking about how the Oscars so white. That and I'm just telling 1196 01:18:32,010 --> 01:18:35,250 you maybe I'm just I'm reaching but I don't think so. And I 1197 01:18:35,250 --> 01:18:38,400 think that's why Chris came out was like you weren't invited 1198 01:18:38,430 --> 01:18:41,850 anyway. You're not even in movies. Like because that's 1199 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,050 that's the shade like 1200 01:18:43,050 --> 01:18:44,460 yes, absolutely. 1201 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:51,420 Hint. I can see her in limbo. All right. No, I swear. This is 1202 01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:55,140 Jamie. I swear if Chris Rock saying anything about me. 1203 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,490 Yeah, that's it. That's it anything? Yeah. 1204 01:19:00,570 --> 01:19:06,930 And he met while he went off? Like, oh, yeah, gi Jane. But did 1205 01:19:07,380 --> 01:19:12,420 that set will off? I don't know. But it's clear from these next 1206 01:19:12,420 --> 01:19:17,520 clips. Wasn't really on board with what Jada was doing. But he 1207 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,110 had to go and put out the Firestorm. 1208 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,510 Let's get right out to Robin. She's got that exclusive 1209 01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:23,790 interview with Will Smith in LA Robin. 1210 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,330 All right, George and all Will Smith, one of the actors who 1211 01:19:27,330 --> 01:19:30,660 many feel should have been nominated for his performance in 1212 01:19:30,660 --> 01:19:33,900 concussion. Yeah, he hoped to receive a nomination. Many 1213 01:19:33,900 --> 01:19:36,930 actors hoped to hear their name called nomination morning but 1214 01:19:36,930 --> 01:19:41,070 well, Smith says he's even more concerned about what he sees as 1215 01:19:41,070 --> 01:19:45,720 a serious issue that goes far beyond the film industry. Is 1216 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:51,180 Hollywood like you expected it to be and you dreamed of it. As 1217 01:19:51,180 --> 01:19:51,570 a kid, 1218 01:19:51,660 --> 01:19:59,940 the beauty of Hollywood and combined with American ideals is 1219 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:07,140 The the ultimate dreams for humanity, the basis of the 1220 01:20:07,140 --> 01:20:13,440 American concept of anything is possible with with hard work and 1221 01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:18,780 dedication. And no matter your race or your religion, creed, 1222 01:20:18,930 --> 01:20:22,950 none of that matters in America 1223 01:20:22,980 --> 01:20:29,940 the way you describe it. And for everyone. Dream Course. 1224 01:20:31,860 --> 01:20:36,360 I hate hate to do this. But do you hear how weird is talking? 1225 01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:39,030 Does this sound like the wheel that we No, 1226 01:20:39,060 --> 01:20:41,010 no, not at all, at all. 1227 01:20:41,370 --> 01:20:47,070 It. I only say this just to point out, out of all these 1228 01:20:47,070 --> 01:20:51,630 clips we're gonna listen to he sounds different in every one. I 1229 01:20:51,630 --> 01:20:55,710 don't know if this is the roles he's playing seeping into what 1230 01:20:55,710 --> 01:20:59,610 but listen to the way he articulates his words. It's very 1231 01:20:59,610 --> 01:21:00,300 strange 1232 01:21:00,570 --> 01:21:05,130 work and dedication. And no matter your race or your 1233 01:21:05,130 --> 01:21:10,620 religion, creed, none of that matters in America, 1234 01:21:10,650 --> 01:21:17,040 the way you describe it. And for everyone, their American Dream 1235 01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,530 is different. It's not all the same. And they want to see that 1236 01:21:19,530 --> 01:21:24,360 reflected in film. And I think that is part of the conversation 1237 01:21:24,630 --> 01:21:27,330 that's going on right now. And people raising their hand and 1238 01:21:27,330 --> 01:21:32,400 saying, Hey, I'm not seeing myself being recognized by the 1239 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:33,210 Academy. 1240 01:21:36,870 --> 01:21:40,770 And that's what got the ball rolling for the 2/94 Academy. 1241 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:45,690 This is where we're at now, this started in 2016. And yeah, 1242 01:21:47,370 --> 01:21:51,510 you guys. Well, no, I'm jumping ahead. I'm looking at April 1243 01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:55,740 rain, and I know what's coming. So I'm just looking at some 1244 01:21:55,740 --> 01:21:59,400 players trying to find you know, curry curry cash check is not 1245 01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,440 very easy. So I'm just getting ready for you. 1246 01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,490 And we might not even like say it might not be about money at 1247 01:22:05,490 --> 01:22:12,720 this point. It's about clout. And you know who, if you look at 1248 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:18,450 it. Well, let's, let's continue on. But as you seen, the 94 1249 01:22:18,750 --> 01:22:24,000 Academy Awards was a perfect example of black people opening 1250 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,970 the door holding the door for everybody else to get it going. 1251 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,700 And that's why I pointed out Amy Schumer. 1252 01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:31,920 That's why we have all these Damn, that's why we have all 1253 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:33,870 these damn Korean movies winning Mo. 1254 01:22:36,450 --> 01:22:42,150 Door and it's like Amy comes in. She's like, What about Linko 1255 01:22:42,150 --> 01:22:48,600 what is nice Alinsky. litski. Yeah, that got to ski. And the 1256 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,690 Ukrainians while we're here, black people, yes. Talking about 1257 01:22:51,690 --> 01:22:55,770 now. It's like, I thought this was the black Oscars. And they 1258 01:22:55,770 --> 01:22:58,980 you looking it's like two and a half women as the host. So you 1259 01:22:58,980 --> 01:23:01,260 know, saying they got Wanda Sykes, you're saying 1260 01:23:01,260 --> 01:23:04,770 representing the gays. You're saying not saying that? Gay? 1261 01:23:05,910 --> 01:23:10,170 Black, you know that, oh, we gotta get her out. And we got to 1262 01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:12,840 have a feminist rep as our representative or Amy Schumer. 1263 01:23:13,050 --> 01:23:15,900 You know, that kind of thing. He was like, hold on. We can't get 1264 01:23:15,900 --> 01:23:18,660 a black man. What are you got? we'll pack up behind the scenes 1265 01:23:18,660 --> 01:23:20,130 Shut up. You're saying like 1266 01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,640 you got you got Denzel hanging out in the front. Isn't that 1267 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:24,420 enough for you? 1268 01:23:24,930 --> 01:23:27,900 Yeah, and then Tyler Perry was there so it was like okay, we'll 1269 01:23:27,900 --> 01:23:33,540 get we'll award you know, um, and I'm sure they put the Define 1270 01:23:33,540 --> 01:23:36,270 I'm doing a lot of speculating here but I'm sure they picked up 1271 01:23:36,270 --> 01:23:39,000 the blue light phone like hey, Serena you know that movie about 1272 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:45,870 your dad? Yes. The 94 might be a great year to drop it you know 1273 01:23:45,870 --> 01:23:49,650 saying we it's the blessed the black Oscars we ain't baby USA 1274 01:23:49,650 --> 01:23:53,130 and then she gets wheeled to do it and all this is not happening 1275 01:23:53,550 --> 01:23:59,580 and and in in silos. This is a lot of phone calls. And yeah, 1276 01:23:59,610 --> 01:24:04,380 yeah, we got we secured a bag for your sand for 94. But it 1277 01:24:04,380 --> 01:24:07,920 started started rolling here with April rain and you know 1278 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,770 what? I'm so giddy. Let's just go ahead and jump straight to 17 1279 01:24:10,770 --> 01:24:13,140 We brought her up so much. Okay, 1280 01:24:13,620 --> 01:24:16,110 thank you. You're throwing a party and you want everybody to 1281 01:24:16,110 --> 01:24:19,560 come. Equity is ensuring that there are different price 1282 01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:24,270 points. Diversity is inviting everybody. Inclusion is actually 1283 01:24:24,300 --> 01:24:28,230 asking people to dance once they're at the party. I'm April 1284 01:24:28,230 --> 01:24:34,860 rent. And this is a word why diversity is not enough. One 1285 01:24:34,860 --> 01:24:40,110 fateful morning on January 2015, I was watching the Oscar 1286 01:24:40,110 --> 01:24:44,250 nominations on TV category after category Best Actor, Best 1287 01:24:44,250 --> 01:24:47,010 Actress, Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress. There 1288 01:24:47,010 --> 01:24:50,940 were no people of color nominated in 2015 and this was 1289 01:24:50,940 --> 01:24:55,350 the year that gave us Selma. I took to Twitter and I said one 1290 01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:59,760 thing Oscar so white they asked to touch my hair. Initially 1291 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:00,720 stuff It was 1292 01:25:01,980 --> 01:25:06,360 kinda remind people Salma was produced on directed by Auntie 1293 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:15,000 duminy. Okay, so I'm just saying that was a slap in the face. 1294 01:25:15,300 --> 01:25:19,710 Like it's not someone not even nominated. It do Renee who is 1295 01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:27,270 Oprah's pupil? Oh, I want to just put that out here we're 1296 01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:30,180 gonna go back to wielding a firestorm but I thought Yes, 1297 01:25:30,510 --> 01:25:35,490 flagship clips you know so I like we continue on I took 1298 01:25:35,490 --> 01:25:39,870 to Twitter and I said one thing Oscar so white they asked to 1299 01:25:39,870 --> 01:25:45,750 touch my hair. Initially it was just as snarky and as sarcastic 1300 01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:48,600 as I meant it to be. And so that's what we were seeing with 1301 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,330 all of the responses, you know Oscar so white, they wear 1302 01:25:51,330 --> 01:25:54,030 Birkenstocks in the wintertime, Oscar still like they have a 1303 01:25:54,030 --> 01:25:57,060 perfect credit score, right? It wasn't until a couple of days 1304 01:25:57,060 --> 01:26:01,080 later, when I realized that people were still having this 1305 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,750 conversation and that we needed to talk about the distinctions 1306 01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:07,140 between diversity and inclusion, and equity and representation. 1307 01:26:07,230 --> 01:26:11,520 And in fact that this was bigger than just the academy, just the 1308 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:16,530 Oscars, just the movie industry. So I created Oscar. So why in 1309 01:26:16,530 --> 01:26:21,990 January 2015, in 2016, the nominations came out. And again, 1310 01:26:22,020 --> 01:26:25,080 there were no people of color in any of the enacting categories. 1311 01:26:25,410 --> 01:26:29,430 One time is a fluke. Two times is a pattern, and I think it was 1312 01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:33,120 in 2016 when OscarsSoWhite truly took off, because people 1313 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,270 realize, oh, okay, there is actually something here and it 1314 01:26:36,270 --> 01:26:40,590 was in 2016 that the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and 1315 01:26:40,590 --> 01:26:43,290 Sciences, they made substantive changes. 1316 01:26:46,230 --> 01:26:49,860 Yes, that was 16. What happened in 2010? 1317 01:26:49,950 --> 01:26:52,950 GE was there was there a presidential election or 1318 01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:56,070 something? Was there something that could have added to this 1319 01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:00,630 45 Savage, he created a whole history of diversity, inclusion 1320 01:27:00,630 --> 01:27:05,640 and equity as I call it, DIA. I know as Dr. But I like the other 1321 01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:11,220 way better. Yeah. Um, yeah. So he created Oh, like you heard 1322 01:27:11,220 --> 01:27:16,530 her say, this is bigger than the Oscars. This was a huge windfall 1323 01:27:16,530 --> 01:27:18,240 of cash. corporate cash. 1324 01:27:18,629 --> 01:27:21,569 Yes. Yes. And let me tell you, Okay, so there you go. That's 1325 01:27:21,569 --> 01:27:26,039 where I wanted you to get to corporate cash. So April rain 1326 01:27:26,429 --> 01:27:31,619 was reached, after she created the Oscar so white, according to 1327 01:27:31,619 --> 01:27:37,259 the Wikipedia page, Cheryl Boone Isaacs, a woman of color, who 1328 01:27:37,259 --> 01:27:39,929 was the president of the Academy, but what can we just 1329 01:27:39,929 --> 01:27:44,399 say collared woman, I never know what to say anymore. She reached 1330 01:27:44,399 --> 01:27:48,239 out at first released a statement and reached out to 1331 01:27:48,689 --> 01:27:51,989 lungs to the timelines a little weird with what she said that 1332 01:27:51,989 --> 01:27:54,509 the Academy would quote, take dramatic steps to alter the 1333 01:27:54,509 --> 01:27:58,349 makeup of our membership. And as a result, the academy voted 1334 01:27:58,349 --> 01:28:02,519 unanimously on January 21 2016, to make a variety of changes to 1335 01:28:02,519 --> 01:28:05,429 his membership and governance policies with the goal of 1336 01:28:05,429 --> 01:28:09,119 doubling the number of women and underrepresented groups by 2020 1337 01:28:09,269 --> 01:28:11,729 Hello there's nothing to do with white 1338 01:28:12,930 --> 01:28:15,180 has nothing to do with black Well, that's 1339 01:28:17,550 --> 01:28:21,570 my point is like Oscars so white Well, this is not this is this 1340 01:28:21,570 --> 01:28:27,540 is a Yeah, okay. We're saying the same thing. Not a single 1341 01:28:27,540 --> 01:28:33,120 thing about black but but Oh, but then as the hashtag was 1342 01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:38,790 created April rain catches some fire. And she gets outreach 1343 01:28:38,790 --> 01:28:44,310 according to her work EPDM I can actually read it to you. She 1344 01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:50,370 says that overture global reached out to her and said, 1345 01:28:50,370 --> 01:28:54,720 Hey, let's make a content deal. Now overture global, I really 1346 01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,630 have no idea what they are. Because there's a lot of 1347 01:28:57,630 --> 01:29:02,760 impressive people on the board. Like, you know, from the from 1348 01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:07,590 business and from politics. They are not a nonprofit, or at least 1349 01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:11,010 they don't have any information about it. But if we look at 1350 01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:15,360 about overture global, I'll just read it to you. Over to global 1351 01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:19,710 is a media platform and thought leadership community built to 1352 01:29:19,710 --> 01:29:23,010 inspire those working across boundaries, industries, 1353 01:29:23,010 --> 01:29:26,400 disciplines and generations. overture focuses on the 1354 01:29:26,430 --> 01:29:30,660 intersection of innovation and our culture of change, by 1355 01:29:30,660 --> 01:29:35,250 curating conversations for young digital connected audience via 1356 01:29:35,250 --> 01:29:39,690 content, online, print, video and live events. And perhaps 1357 01:29:39,690 --> 01:29:42,450 this is where the money comes from its members and sponsors 1358 01:29:42,450 --> 01:29:48,630 include Facebook, Google, Spotify, the World Bank, the 1359 01:29:48,630 --> 01:29:52,590 Nature Conservancy, International Rescue Committee, 1360 01:29:52,980 --> 01:29:57,570 US State Department, the British state department, and Johnson 1361 01:29:57,570 --> 01:30:03,720 and Johnson. So You're right. big money, big money went into 1362 01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:04,170 this. 1363 01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,560 Because these huge corporations, as you always talk about, I call 1364 01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,920 it the corporate credit credit score. But they saw the 1365 01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,290 handwriting on the wall and like we got to write a check to 1366 01:30:13,290 --> 01:30:14,190 somebody gotta get 1367 01:30:14,190 --> 01:30:17,880 Yep. And that this was it, this was a check. It doesn't 1368 01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:21,870 matter to who we got, I've solved it now. And I'm free to 1369 01:30:21,870 --> 01:30:27,360 speak of it. I saw in my former Corporation I worked for you saw 1370 01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,350 all of these, quote unquote, black women being brought into 1371 01:30:31,380 --> 01:30:37,200 HR as the di e specialists, and they created these new executive 1372 01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:40,740 roles, and may and it was so disgusting. Because what people 1373 01:30:40,740 --> 01:30:43,530 don't know how the sausage is made out was in these rooms. 1374 01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:47,820 They will basically have black people come out there and tell 1375 01:30:47,820 --> 01:30:52,800 how they were being how they experienced racism. And I was 1376 01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:56,610 like a very sadomasochists kind of, like women. 1377 01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,830 Yeah. So there's a room with all with all kinds of employees. 1378 01:31:02,130 --> 01:31:05,820 Yes. Except then you had to bring out the the ones, the non 1379 01:31:05,820 --> 01:31:08,460 whites. Let's just put it that way. He does stand up and say, 1380 01:31:08,460 --> 01:31:11,340 here's how I experienced racism in the workplace. 1381 01:31:11,550 --> 01:31:15,570 Yes. And then they had different groups. Because every employee 1382 01:31:15,570 --> 01:31:19,050 had to go to one group, they had the elderly, they had to 1383 01:31:19,050 --> 01:31:24,630 disable, they had the LGBTQ, they had the and then they had 1384 01:31:24,630 --> 01:31:28,830 the black. And the funny thing was, last time I checked, I 1385 01:31:28,830 --> 01:31:32,370 thought Indians and Asians were minorities, too, but they didn't 1386 01:31:32,370 --> 01:31:36,210 have no empowerment group. So I'm like, well, well, well, 1387 01:31:36,210 --> 01:31:38,160 well, well, you've been listening with the disabled 1388 01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:42,060 folks. You're saying the older feeble, not no disrespect, I'm 1389 01:31:42,060 --> 01:31:45,030 just saying like, and manette where have you stood up there? 1390 01:31:45,030 --> 01:31:48,450 And you had to say, and I will listen, this was doing COVID So 1391 01:31:48,450 --> 01:31:51,480 I mean, I was in the zoom. I mean, it was zoom rooms. Nalanda 1392 01:31:51,480 --> 01:31:55,260 and I never had my camera on at work either. So don't feel even 1393 01:31:55,260 --> 01:31:57,360 at work. I didn't have no camera. Oh, my man. No, no 1394 01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,200 camera, no open account, but it was like I will listen, like 1395 01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:06,000 people will come up here like, it's very like I said, this. I 1396 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:10,860 don't know I asked was sadomasochists vibe of Oh, and 1397 01:32:10,860 --> 01:32:14,520 people that Oh, you're so strong. And I'm like, Are you 1398 01:32:14,610 --> 01:32:17,730 kidding me? Like I would no way in the world I would get out 1399 01:32:17,730 --> 01:32:22,080 here in front of a bunch of people and like, want to be 1400 01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:26,610 accepted her words be asked to dance. That's the thing like No, 1401 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,630 tell us your oven. That's what they brought in with them. What 1402 01:32:30,990 --> 01:32:35,100 I noticed is a long Shaggy, shaggy dog story but the funny 1403 01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:38,730 thing was like every month they were like oh we're gonna do this 1404 01:32:38,730 --> 01:32:41,490 for this group the black doll you know black history month and 1405 01:32:41,490 --> 01:32:44,190 then when he got the other groups is like oh yeah, we're 1406 01:32:44,190 --> 01:32:48,900 donating money to this gold is fine or whatever. And I'm like 1407 01:32:48,900 --> 01:32:51,450 hold on the black people they get nothing like we got what 1408 01:32:51,450 --> 01:32:53,520 like a special notch 1409 01:32:53,580 --> 01:32:57,060 Oscar so Oscar so white went to women and other minorities is 1410 01:32:57,060 --> 01:32:59,010 fantastic. Look at 1411 01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:03,480 look at the representation that was from the host. That was Who 1412 01:33:03,480 --> 01:33:06,990 did you have you had the black woman you had older gay black 1413 01:33:06,990 --> 01:33:10,710 woman, Rhonda sites and feminism necessarily das das who was not 1414 01:33:10,710 --> 01:33:14,850 there. And you heard of all over who was really making demands we 1415 01:33:14,850 --> 01:33:17,730 need you're saying we need Ukraine to be represent Ukraine, 1416 01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:23,700 the Nazis? I mean, black Oscars? Oh, what are we doing with that? 1417 01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,920 But that's that's the way it went. Um, but let's see, I think 1418 01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,250 we stopped that. Let's get back to miss April rang part two. 1419 01:33:32,430 --> 01:33:36,750 In 2016. The Academy committed to doubling the number of people 1420 01:33:36,750 --> 01:33:40,560 of color and doubling the number of women within its ranks by 1421 01:33:40,590 --> 01:33:49,320 2020. Opening up its ranks to people like Julie dash, who is a 1422 01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:53,160 phenomenal filmmaker like Melvin van Peebles, who was the 1423 01:33:53,190 --> 01:33:56,010 godfather of Blaxploitation films, neither. 1424 01:33:59,580 --> 01:34:03,390 I just gotta warn people, we talked about Blaxploitation 1425 01:34:03,390 --> 01:34:08,670 films or riding in the theaters. And Melvin van Peebles is like 1426 01:34:08,670 --> 01:34:13,290 127 years old. Yeah, I mean, so when no disrespect but when he 1427 01:34:13,290 --> 01:34:21,300 dies pleasing gonna get his spot like Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Let's 1428 01:34:21,300 --> 01:34:24,630 put the old black guy in there for representation. But we know 1429 01:34:24,900 --> 01:34:27,810 it wasn't like he gonna be around here long and then we'll 1430 01:34:27,810 --> 01:34:28,230 just 1431 01:34:29,490 --> 01:34:30,660 replace them. Yep. 1432 01:34:31,740 --> 01:34:32,790 Yeah, I'm just wondering. 1433 01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:41,640 This is this is this is this. I had not expected. Not expected 1434 01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:46,380 this. This is deep. This is good. This is you know what? The 1435 01:34:46,380 --> 01:34:54,090 entire world was distracted and obsessed with this for a full 1436 01:34:54,090 --> 01:34:58,260 week at minimum. Two weeks, and of course, there's still a long 1437 01:34:58,260 --> 01:35:03,510 tail of it. No One has broached any of this, this these angles 1438 01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:06,930 of what happened here, not a single person, not a single 1439 01:35:06,930 --> 01:35:10,950 show, not a single network, nobody. This is I just wanted to 1440 01:35:10,980 --> 01:35:13,500 point that out and congratulate you on this fantastic work. 1441 01:35:13,590 --> 01:35:15,540 I appreciate that. Okay, we continue, 1442 01:35:16,170 --> 01:35:20,010 and Peebles who was the godfather of Blaxploitation 1443 01:35:20,010 --> 01:35:23,400 films, neither of whom had been in the academy before makes a 1444 01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,070 difference, because that means they're going to be viewing 1445 01:35:26,070 --> 01:35:29,430 films through their lens through the lens of a marginalized 1446 01:35:29,430 --> 01:35:34,320 person, there is really not an industry in the United States 1447 01:35:34,350 --> 01:35:39,270 that is not affected by the lack of inclusion of marginalized 1448 01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:43,440 communities. So while I didn't have a goal, initially, it 1449 01:35:43,470 --> 01:35:47,070 became really clear to me that we needed to continue these 1450 01:35:47,070 --> 01:35:50,160 conversations in every single field, not just an 1451 01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:54,480 entertainment. And so I'm attempting to take that on and 1452 01:35:54,480 --> 01:35:58,230 continue discussing issues of diversity and inclusion, and 1453 01:35:58,230 --> 01:36:02,310 equity and representation. Both the terms diversity and 1454 01:36:02,310 --> 01:36:05,400 inclusion are overused, it's sort of a catch all. And people 1455 01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,250 really don't think about what the distinctions are. So when we 1456 01:36:08,250 --> 01:36:12,180 see that particular corporations or organizations have diversity 1457 01:36:12,180 --> 01:36:15,240 initiatives, what does that mean? Truly, they're going to 1458 01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,810 put more people of color in their ads or in their magazines, 1459 01:36:18,810 --> 01:36:21,840 or, you know, shilling their product. And yet, when you look 1460 01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,090 at their boardrooms, when you look at the C suite, when you 1461 01:36:24,090 --> 01:36:26,280 look at the higher level employees within the 1462 01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:30,540 organization, they look incredibly homogenous. When 1463 01:36:30,540 --> 01:36:33,120 someone says oh, yeah, we're very diverse. You know, we've 1464 01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:36,930 been very intentional about what we're doing. Ask the question, 1465 01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,540 you know, what is the percentage of people of color what is the 1466 01:36:39,540 --> 01:36:41,100 percentage of disabled folks? 1467 01:36:44,490 --> 01:36:49,530 Alright, Stop, just stop, stop. I need to give you some more 1468 01:36:49,530 --> 01:36:57,840 information on April rain. So April rains started a new studio 1469 01:36:57,990 --> 01:37:05,310 with this global outfit. And what they started is ensemble 1470 01:37:05,310 --> 01:37:12,330 studio. The F, an ensemble studio, it's all in the show 1471 01:37:12,330 --> 01:37:16,710 notes. Ensemble studio, what is ensemble studio? Well, first of 1472 01:37:16,710 --> 01:37:21,240 all, ensemble studio, creates opportunities from challenges, 1473 01:37:21,420 --> 01:37:25,800 helps brands evolve and reach new audiences and tries to make 1474 01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:28,590 a positive difference to the world. We take our client's 1475 01:37:28,590 --> 01:37:31,980 creativity to new heights and enable each one to speak with 1476 01:37:31,980 --> 01:37:36,780 the voice that's truly uniquely theirs. So she went on to create 1477 01:37:36,780 --> 01:37:41,460 content. And this Ensemble Studios while on the website is 1478 01:37:41,460 --> 01:37:46,500 part of FleishmanHillard a huge advertising company. So it's a 1479 01:37:46,500 --> 01:37:49,110 subsidiary of and they I'm reading right here, 1480 01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:54,210 international agency 2320 specialists across 48 offices, 1481 01:37:54,210 --> 01:37:58,740 31 countries 20 languages. 11 timezones, firm services include 1482 01:37:58,740 --> 01:38:02,220 corporate and financial PR employment engagement, crisis 1483 01:38:02,220 --> 01:38:05,790 and issues management, domestic and international affairs media 1484 01:38:05,790 --> 01:38:09,630 relations, opinion research analytics. FleishmanHillard 1485 01:38:09,630 --> 01:38:12,450 equips ensemble studio with insight and knowledge that 1486 01:38:12,450 --> 01:38:15,420 informs and drives every piece of work blah, blah, blah. Okay, 1487 01:38:15,420 --> 01:38:20,640 so now so the FleishmanHillard now we go back to that's who we 1488 01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:26,610 are on their website. What do we do? Well, our approach is built 1489 01:38:26,610 --> 01:38:31,140 on collaboration expert insight. Ensemble studio brings 1490 01:38:31,140 --> 01:38:35,310 creativity to brand and corporate communications. Nicely 1491 01:38:35,310 --> 01:38:39,150 done April rain. What are some of your clients showcasing 1492 01:38:39,150 --> 01:38:47,130 clients? Let's see. The future starts today. 5g AT and T bear. 1493 01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:52,950 Johnson and Johnson Virgin Money, financial fraud action UK 1494 01:38:53,070 --> 01:39:00,240 Thyssen Krupp coffee people. I mean, this oh they went from oh 1495 01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:04,020 my god, Barclays, Santander, Olympus, Philips, Novartis, 1496 01:39:04,260 --> 01:39:09,240 these are the people who create native ads, Twitter, Black 1497 01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:15,660 Twitter campaigns, anything to push products, agendas DLM ESG 1498 01:39:15,660 --> 01:39:22,170 di e element Opie, this is evil shit. These are propaganda 1499 01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:28,350 Skora or you always talk about Jamie. That's right. That's 1500 01:39:28,350 --> 01:39:30,990 right. This is the ES I'm so April 1501 01:39:30,990 --> 01:39:34,350 rain is no friend to black Americans. She's a corporate 1502 01:39:34,350 --> 01:39:35,010 horror. 1503 01:39:35,310 --> 01:39:39,270 I went to one of these trainings, sees a lot of stuff I 1504 01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:44,100 can't talk about before. McKinsey had one called the 1505 01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:47,940 Black Leadership Academy experience. Experience. Oh, 1506 01:39:47,940 --> 01:39:56,190 yeah. And the thing was, was, it was so it was so artificial. A 1507 01:39:56,190 --> 01:40:00,240 lot of people I know didn't want to partake in it. That HR I was 1508 01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,720 content and black people. That's how I got in. Or you're black. 1509 01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,750 How would you like the black leadership? 1510 01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:10,650 Excuse me, Mr. Mo, we have it on good authority. You're a black 1511 01:40:10,650 --> 01:40:14,910 employee. Is this correct? That is correct. We need to put you 1512 01:40:14,910 --> 01:40:17,400 in the leadership group experience, Mr. Black employee, 1513 01:40:17,730 --> 01:40:21,660 the day, the day, the cut off, they were contacted people, how 1514 01:40:21,660 --> 01:40:24,270 would you join? How would you like to join? I'm like, this 1515 01:40:24,270 --> 01:40:25,410 would be great for content. 1516 01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:29,790 Good, man. Good, man. 1517 01:40:30,179 --> 01:40:34,229 So I signed up for it. But I don't understand how giving me 1518 01:40:34,229 --> 01:40:40,019 more work. Yeah, it's helping me do my job better. I don't 1519 01:40:40,019 --> 01:40:43,049 understand. But this they had to get the J nation 1520 01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:47,550 ESG score, they need ESG score up because it's, this is what's 1521 01:40:47,550 --> 01:40:52,590 so interesting. You know, Elon Musk is normalizing ESG. He's 1522 01:40:52,590 --> 01:40:55,710 normalizing it by saying, oh, boohoo, I create all these great 1523 01:40:55,710 --> 01:41:00,510 cars. But I get kicked out of the s&p 500 ESG list because no 1524 01:41:00,540 --> 01:41:03,510 racism in the workplace. So we're not even asking about the 1525 01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:08,400 fact that there's a crazy ass score that determines, you know, 1526 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,280 if companies are investable? No, we're already down to the level 1527 01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:13,710 of Well, that's fucked up. Elon, you know, you deserve better. 1528 01:41:14,250 --> 01:41:17,400 You see, it's normalizing. It's normalizing it. Yeah. 1529 01:41:17,460 --> 01:41:22,560 That's man. I'm trying. But this is, like I said, I live this. I 1530 01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:26,730 know, I couldn't talk about it before. But you know, I'm slowly 1531 01:41:26,850 --> 01:41:29,310 How was the How was the experience? Was it fun? 1532 01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:35,340 It was basically a set of like, it was basically like a, they 1533 01:41:35,340 --> 01:41:39,120 write up these quizzes, like, Hey, you want to be a leader? 1534 01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:41,160 This is what you got to do. And I'm like, bro, I've been a 1535 01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:43,470 leader in my job for how many years? I mean, like, what are 1536 01:41:43,470 --> 01:41:46,470 you telling me? It's about access at this point. And then 1537 01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:50,130 that will link you up with one of those actors in the company. 1538 01:41:50,460 --> 01:41:53,520 And you send them I am and he didn't respond. You know, that 1539 01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,720 kind of thing. Racist. Right? It was like, I'll volunteer but he 1540 01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,750 won't never respond. I was like, Okay, I see what this is. But I 1541 01:42:00,750 --> 01:42:04,200 knew what it was going into. It was all about the George. This 1542 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:08,670 is doing George Floyd Pete George Floyd pig. You Yeah. So 1543 01:42:08,670 --> 01:42:12,210 there, we're trying to get that missing the ESG score, up, up, 1544 01:42:12,270 --> 01:42:16,230 up, up. And the way they did it was how much money we spent. How 1545 01:42:16,230 --> 01:42:19,470 many employees got in this one? The Coca Cola is leaks was going 1546 01:42:19,470 --> 01:42:19,800 on. 1547 01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:22,740 And this you know, this is what you put in your corporate 1548 01:42:22,740 --> 01:42:27,990 report. You do it every single year, and you show your di e 1549 01:42:27,990 --> 01:42:30,870 everyone has it. Now, everyone has to have this energy. Yes, 1550 01:42:30,870 --> 01:42:35,400 you're right, it comes down to the money. That's that's the 1551 01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,370 score, how much money appropriate in proportion to 1552 01:42:38,370 --> 01:42:43,710 your revenues and profits did you spend on this? You know, we 1553 01:42:43,710 --> 01:42:48,300 could be multimillionaires. But you and I just going out and 1554 01:42:48,300 --> 01:42:52,320 role playing the shit for companies. We'd have a good time 1555 01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:56,940 to we'd have a good time. I'll be the racist white guy. This is 1556 01:42:56,940 --> 01:42:58,350 how not to do it kids. 1557 01:42:59,430 --> 01:43:05,490 That's the problem is they're in an echo chamber. Honestly, I 1558 01:43:05,490 --> 01:43:09,120 think these companies are benign either way. It's like how do we 1559 01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:12,660 make money out of us? ESG score. Okay, that's gonna run out 1560 01:43:12,660 --> 01:43:13,080 profit. 1561 01:43:13,410 --> 01:43:16,980 I gotta say one other thing. We may have discussed this. When 1562 01:43:17,010 --> 01:43:20,370 Tina was wrong. McDonald House, I think was when I was, I think 1563 01:43:20,370 --> 01:43:24,030 it was. And so I'm speaking out of turn here. So I'm just saying 1564 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,370 I would she would have to speak to her experience. But in 1565 01:43:29,370 --> 01:43:33,930 general, when she came home for one of these di e, it was like 1566 01:43:33,930 --> 01:43:40,680 two days, she was very impressed. Because she learned 1567 01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:48,510 about a lot of things she didn't know. And she just felt it was 1568 01:43:48,570 --> 01:43:52,260 it was really, it made quite an impression on her of things she 1569 01:43:52,260 --> 01:43:58,500 never thought about. Now, this is before mo facts. So you know, 1570 01:43:58,530 --> 01:44:02,580 she's you know, and she and I both talked about how many 1571 01:44:02,700 --> 01:44:08,220 things we never thought about that. It's like, it's enormous, 1572 01:44:08,550 --> 01:44:11,880 but it's not the things that the Dia II was teaching you. 1573 01:44:13,470 --> 01:44:22,980 Understanding margin is a catch all. Each, the DIA, the DIA 1574 01:44:22,980 --> 01:44:27,120 thing is, hey, you know, I have a master's degree, but you know, 1575 01:44:27,150 --> 01:44:30,240 yet I couldn't couldn't get a job. And this data is that that 1576 01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,030 level, kind of maybe a little bit more in the corporate 1577 01:44:33,030 --> 01:44:38,910 environment in the environment itself. And to me, it was kind 1578 01:44:38,910 --> 01:44:43,110 of trauma based learning. Not really, hello. 1579 01:44:44,610 --> 01:44:47,730 That's why Pete George Floyd, there was like, put in 1580 01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:51,630 overdrive, you know, it was books you need to read. That's 1581 01:44:51,630 --> 01:44:53,580 when white fragility fragility, yeah, 1582 01:44:54,150 --> 01:44:58,020 but I'm saying that it's completely okay. I guess what 1583 01:44:58,020 --> 01:45:01,590 I'm saying is, there's so much validity to learning and 1584 01:45:01,590 --> 01:45:05,580 understanding about your fellow countrymen. That does not have 1585 01:45:05,580 --> 01:45:09,480 to be in a corporate setting and a black white issue. You know, 1586 01:45:09,510 --> 01:45:12,630 go out to a bar have a drink with somebody talk openly 1587 01:45:14,190 --> 01:45:17,940 that you can't do that while say it said maybe they were maybe 1588 01:45:17,940 --> 01:45:22,020 not homogenous, but that's the correct word in the sense of it 1589 01:45:22,020 --> 01:45:25,470 had to fit. They weren't creative. They're like okay, 1590 01:45:25,470 --> 01:45:29,100 this is the plight of maybe gay people in the corporate society. 1591 01:45:29,250 --> 01:45:31,560 This is the plight of black people in the corporate no 1592 01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:35,610 setting, not Saudi setting. This is the the plight of disabled 1593 01:45:35,610 --> 01:45:40,530 people. No was like, let's create one lesson plan. What's 1594 01:45:40,530 --> 01:45:43,800 your disability? Oh, you have a vagina. Okay. What's your 1595 01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,980 disability all you have melanated skin I see. Oh, what's 1596 01:45:46,980 --> 01:45:50,580 your disability? Oh, yeah, you get no, huh. Okay, now in this 1597 01:45:50,580 --> 01:45:53,700 line, okay. Now we have a catch all for everything instead of 1598 01:45:54,060 --> 01:45:57,810 being specific to each topic where there's opportunities for 1599 01:45:57,810 --> 01:46:00,840 to learn. But the problem was, I'm telling you what a di e went 1600 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:04,860 off the rails when they turn on their white sisters. See, they 1601 01:46:04,860 --> 01:46:11,100 got in these rooms. It was like, yeah, yeah, this is my issue. 1602 01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:15,000 But then intersectionality thing came up. It's like how many how 1603 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:19,230 many? Girl Scout badges did you have? How many? Oh, what's your 1604 01:46:19,410 --> 01:46:23,010 white skin? So you got to shut up? You're saying when the brown 1605 01:46:23,010 --> 01:46:25,260 and black women are talking? Right? And that's what kind of 1606 01:46:25,260 --> 01:46:28,500 created the vibe in Virginia and you start start seeing it play 1607 01:46:28,500 --> 01:46:33,990 out it at town halls and school board meetings. Yeah. Because 1608 01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:36,630 you people will go to work all day be forced to see me because 1609 01:46:36,630 --> 01:46:42,540 you got to go. You had to go. Mandatory. Maybe you tell how 1610 01:46:42,540 --> 01:46:47,040 bad you are that you can't you can't force people to get it hug 1611 01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:50,790 or their words to dance, you know, says like, if you can have 1612 01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:53,670 a meaningful conversation, somebody go forward, you know, 1613 01:46:53,670 --> 01:46:56,670 but you can't hold people hostage in a room and tell them 1614 01:46:56,670 --> 01:46:59,640 how bad they are thinking they're gonna accept it. You can 1615 01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:04,290 but those people will be like, messed up you know? Like kind of 1616 01:47:04,290 --> 01:47:07,590 scared to say what they wanted to say. Now with all that said, 1617 01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:11,340 now we got to go back to the firestorm because now we you've 1618 01:47:11,340 --> 01:47:13,920 laid out all the corporate cat cash as you do the court the 1619 01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:18,810 carry cash check. And now what they what do they need they 1620 01:47:18,810 --> 01:47:22,650 need? This is my speculation. They needed a frontwoman Jada, 1621 01:47:22,830 --> 01:47:23,640 the academy 1622 01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,730 is under pressure as more stars speak out about the lack of 1623 01:47:26,730 --> 01:47:30,720 diversity in this year's Oscar nominations, including Will's 1624 01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:32,640 wife Jada Pinkett Smith 1625 01:47:33,900 --> 01:47:39,120 Academy to them with all grace and less to us. 1626 01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:47,250 Your beautiful wife, Jada, so passionate, and so powerful. 1627 01:47:47,310 --> 01:47:51,780 Absolutely. And letting the world know her thoughts about 1628 01:47:51,780 --> 01:47:54,990 the lack of diversity in Hollywood with her posting. 1629 01:47:55,020 --> 01:47:59,040 Absolutely. And has been seen by my millions. Were you aware that 1630 01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:00,120 she was going to do that? 1631 01:48:00,780 --> 01:48:07,500 No, I was. I was out of the country at the time. And I came 1632 01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:09,780 home. What happened? 1633 01:48:10,410 --> 01:48:12,780 What was your first reaction? Was it was it a fist pump? Or 1634 01:48:12,780 --> 01:48:13,770 was it like, Oh, 1635 01:48:14,190 --> 01:48:21,960 she's deeply passionate and when she is moved, she has to go. And 1636 01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:26,970 I heard her words and I was knocked over you know, I was 1637 01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:31,830 happy to be married to that woman. But I appreciated the 1638 01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:39,000 push. There is a position that we hold in this community. And 1639 01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:42,270 if we're not a part of the solution, we're part of the 1640 01:48:42,270 --> 01:48:47,970 problem. And it was her call to action for herself and for me 1641 01:48:47,970 --> 01:48:51,060 and for our family to be a part of the solution. 1642 01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:53,010 Cheese 1643 01:48:53,460 --> 01:48:55,290 he doesn't even know no 1644 01:48:56,910 --> 01:48:58,380 way she's moved 1645 01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:04,350 when she's moved so Oscar so white this is just my 1646 01:49:04,350 --> 01:49:07,770 speculation on how if it's a hoax for you hoax folks out 1647 01:49:07,770 --> 01:49:11,100 there like I've covered if it was real and they're saying that 1648 01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:14,220 no emotional we touched on it here. Maybe it was a mother 1649 01:49:14,220 --> 01:49:19,380 response you know our whatever but if it was a hoax, who could 1650 01:49:19,380 --> 01:49:23,280 call that shot? Who has enough clout? Now we have an 1651 01:49:23,310 --> 01:49:24,570 interesting person to come. 1652 01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:27,450 Oh, boy, okay, 1653 01:49:27,480 --> 01:49:34,050 we gotta go now we gotta go Oh, gee. Boulais Oh, no, 1654 01:49:34,170 --> 01:49:35,280 knock you 1655 01:49:35,340 --> 01:49:38,760 slack through producing a calendar was like running 1656 01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:44,070 through hell with gasoline underwear. No, it's it's it's 1657 01:49:44,130 --> 01:49:49,620 it's amazing. It's you get I was on the border of the academy 1658 01:49:49,620 --> 01:49:52,800 with the brat music branch, two years or so forth. Again, 1659 01:49:52,950 --> 01:49:58,650 familiarity helps you go through things. But just the way it's 1660 01:49:58,650 --> 01:50:01,500 designed. You Aren't you can't yell at anybody, because you're 1661 01:50:01,500 --> 01:50:04,770 not paying anybody outside of the Bureau staff. And so the 1662 01:50:04,770 --> 01:50:08,250 stars are not, you know, Sunday, I'm just rounding the stars out, 1663 01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,160 you know, and trying to keep everybody just so that they go 1664 01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:13,650 through to the end. Because a lot of things happened, you 1665 01:50:13,650 --> 01:50:17,910 know, the eagle things happen. I don't want to be what's on so 1666 01:50:17,910 --> 01:50:21,000 none of them. You know, I don't want him to give me the award. 1667 01:50:22,110 --> 01:50:27,240 It's insane. But you get to see everybody the day before you 1668 01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:31,530 shoot. That's it. You think you take the three weeks of 1669 01:50:31,530 --> 01:50:36,090 rehearsal before? No way buddy the day before you do the show. 1670 01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:40,020 You have all these people with 15 minutes apiece to come in and 1671 01:50:40,020 --> 01:50:42,930 talk about what that what this trip is about that now if they 1672 01:50:42,930 --> 01:50:45,870 want to change this to fix that and everything, and just really 1673 01:50:46,650 --> 01:50:49,050 just to see each other most of the people you know, already 1674 01:50:49,050 --> 01:50:57,090 anyway, never stops and two minutes before Chris Reeve goes 1675 01:50:57,090 --> 01:51:03,300 out. Because what goes on, says he does not want to use the 1676 01:51:03,300 --> 01:51:07,830 Superman theme now. Okay, you know how many people you have to 1677 01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:12,780 load to notify, to get that theme out? To give them musical 1678 01:51:12,780 --> 01:51:16,830 direction you gotta get to, I'll tell everybody, you know, just 1679 01:51:16,860 --> 01:51:21,000 cameras and everybody and there's 1000s of things like 1680 01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:24,960 that that happened in the best part of the show. The important 1681 01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,780 part is to figure out what you can put your fingerprints on the 1682 01:51:27,780 --> 01:51:33,150 other stuff is fixed it's given and where can you touch it and 1683 01:51:33,180 --> 01:51:37,890 then there's the serendipity that's just totally the moments 1684 01:51:37,890 --> 01:51:42,900 that happened with crystal reveals the purpose of you know, 1685 01:51:42,900 --> 01:51:45,120 watching his daughter get to ask him you know that most of the 1686 01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:48,450 moments and then that's stuff you can do just have to let let 1687 01:51:48,450 --> 01:51:50,010 it let it go let it happen you know 1688 01:51:52,980 --> 01:52:00,750 so Quincy Jones produce the 1996 Oscars 20 years later Oscar So 1689 01:52:00,750 --> 01:52:07,380 White comes up Yes, so it's not like I mean he's been in wills 1690 01:52:07,380 --> 01:52:09,780 Packer Shoes That's why I brought him into this but he 1691 01:52:09,780 --> 01:52:13,980 plays a bigger role as well. But like you said, you only for the 1692 01:52:13,980 --> 01:52:17,040 people out there so oh staged and you know that kind of thing 1693 01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:21,120 is like this grand I think is a disservice people do when they 1694 01:52:21,150 --> 01:52:27,990 say things like things a stage and they think every T to beat 1695 01:52:28,230 --> 01:52:32,310 action a staged might even in sports people i Oh, look at the 1696 01:52:32,310 --> 01:52:36,900 score. It was 102103 No, no, no, that's not how it works when you 1697 01:52:36,900 --> 01:52:39,780 read a game, I mean, it's not down to every shot. It's just 1698 01:52:39,780 --> 01:52:44,280 like we have our goal. And you hear Quincy Jones said they only 1699 01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:48,660 go through this thing once a day before let's say it right the 1700 01:52:48,660 --> 01:52:52,200 day before and then they come back the next day and then they 1701 01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:56,790 do it shoot it so that gives a lot of opportunity for people 1702 01:52:56,790 --> 01:53:01,470 with agendas to a lot of freedom to move about without it being 1703 01:53:01,470 --> 01:53:05,130 this grand conspiracy of 100 people at the camp man was in on 1704 01:53:05,130 --> 01:53:08,940 it. It was taped on the floor and he stood on the spotlight NO 1705 01:53:08,940 --> 01:53:11,370 NO NO calm down don't don't go that far because that's how you 1706 01:53:11,370 --> 01:53:15,270 lose people. When you go that far. Please just like it's their 1707 01:53:15,270 --> 01:53:18,840 motive there yeah, there's motive is an opportunity. Yeah. 1708 01:53:19,170 --> 01:53:21,750 But when you go like Oh, everything is orchestrated that 1709 01:53:21,750 --> 01:53:23,490 can't you kind of lose the script 1710 01:53:23,940 --> 01:53:27,270 well and that's that's that's the danger of conspiracy theory 1711 01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:30,300 or theories and that's why people need conspiracy 1712 01:53:30,300 --> 01:53:31,140 therapists 1713 01:53:31,679 --> 01:53:36,419 and analysts so that's why I analyzed this conspiracy I've 1714 01:53:36,419 --> 01:53:40,109 heard him all the Pfizer was up to it to push their new 1715 01:53:40,409 --> 01:53:44,189 outpatient drugs. Yeah, it's a lot of smoke but they were 1716 01:53:44,189 --> 01:53:49,409 talking about it six years ago. I mean, so who knows but this 1717 01:53:49,409 --> 01:53:52,229 the minor four or five, the blue line, get out? Get out Get a 1718 01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:54,629 mean gone for us, you know, to get our name out there in the 1719 01:53:54,629 --> 01:53:57,959 circle? Probably. I mean, they were in on it. No, the host 1720 01:53:58,590 --> 01:54:01,470 Well, what you hear what you heard Quincy saying that I mean, 1721 01:54:01,470 --> 01:54:05,430 this this is the guy he's a producer who really understands 1722 01:54:05,430 --> 01:54:09,240 the final product. That's what I liked about what he was saying, 1723 01:54:09,330 --> 01:54:12,750 you know, he's like, you know, here's the here's the magic that 1724 01:54:12,750 --> 01:54:14,730 makes things happen good, bad or indifferent. 1725 01:54:16,620 --> 01:54:21,930 And I like the perspective that he's he's in Oscar circles see 1726 01:54:21,930 --> 01:54:28,290 because there's as we're starting to see there's everyone 1727 01:54:28,290 --> 01:54:33,330 wants to all the blacks or the gays is different groups inside 1728 01:54:33,330 --> 01:54:37,980 the sub categories that yes, don't agree. Like you have a 1729 01:54:37,980 --> 01:54:43,470 Quincy Jones and Chris Rock and Whitney, I mean Whoopi Goldberg 1730 01:54:43,470 --> 01:54:45,690 she was very supportive for Chris Rock, you know, saying 1731 01:54:45,690 --> 01:54:52,650 when he did the 2016 So use is different groups. So um, we got 1732 01:54:52,650 --> 01:54:56,490 to remember that book. So Quincy Jones had a different mindset 1733 01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,740 other than boycotting anything you want to say before we play 1734 01:54:58,740 --> 01:55:02,220 the next clip? No, I'm ready for it. All right, this is all him 1735 01:55:02,250 --> 01:55:05,730 on why boycotting won't stop diversity. What do you make of 1736 01:55:05,730 --> 01:55:07,890 people saying we should boycott this year's Oscars? 1737 01:55:08,100 --> 01:55:11,430 Why cut doesn't do anything? He doesn't accomplish anything man 1738 01:55:11,430 --> 01:55:15,510 has a confrontation, but it has no it has no solution to I don't 1739 01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:18,450 believe in that. All my life I've always had to make a 1740 01:55:18,450 --> 01:55:22,230 problem and turn it converted into a puzzle I can solve 1741 01:55:22,230 --> 01:55:22,800 puzzles. 1742 01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,410 What is the solution to the fact that what is the solution? The 1743 01:55:25,410 --> 01:55:26,280 fact that Oscar says 1744 01:55:26,730 --> 01:55:30,180 we'll let you know later? Yes, complex man. Very complex. Were 1745 01:55:30,180 --> 01:55:32,640 you surprised to be on the executive committee I wanted to. 1746 01:55:33,300 --> 01:55:36,120 I was the first black on the executive committee. We changed 1747 01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:40,350 all the rules for the song category and allowed the Beatles 1748 01:55:40,350 --> 01:55:45,630 to win Politik. B Plaza ks with chaff preparation and did you 1749 01:55:45,630 --> 01:55:48,810 ever think they asked her to go to three six mafia for it's hot 1750 01:55:48,810 --> 01:55:50,340 out here for PAM, please. 1751 01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:58,260 Please. You see he didn't have much to say about the Oscars. So 1752 01:55:58,260 --> 01:56:07,050 White situation, but the Tom Kane and now Chris Rock goes up 1753 01:56:07,050 --> 01:56:10,230 for steel in 2016. Just to keep people where we're at right now. 1754 01:56:10,590 --> 01:56:16,440 And he goes out and calls out the her calls are out in the 1755 01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:17,010 monologue. 1756 01:56:20,850 --> 01:56:26,520 I'm here at the Academy Awards. Otherwise known as the white 1757 01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:28,020 People's Choice Awards. 1758 01:56:28,890 --> 01:56:32,310 Chris Rock tackled diversity head on during his opening 1759 01:56:32,310 --> 01:56:35,430 monologue at the Oscars, delivering jokes that were both 1760 01:56:35,430 --> 01:56:38,940 hilarious and poignant. Like this one where he called out 1761 01:56:38,940 --> 01:56:41,790 Jada Pinkett Smith for boycotting the show. 1762 01:56:44,370 --> 01:56:48,030 boycotting the Oscars was like me boycotting Rihanna is 1763 01:56:48,030 --> 01:56:56,610 panties. I wasn't invited. Okay, this man who man will who was 1764 01:56:56,610 --> 01:56:59,610 not nominated for concussion I get it. I get it. Tell the 1765 01:56:59,610 --> 01:57:04,800 truth. I get it. I get it. You get mad, said it's it's not that 1766 01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,500 well, was this good and didn't get nominated. Yeah, you're 1767 01:57:07,500 --> 01:57:11,340 right. It's also not fair that will was paying 20 million for 1768 01:57:11,340 --> 01:57:12,330 wild wild west. 1769 01:57:14,340 --> 01:57:17,610 Comedian kept things mostly light hearted but ended on a 1770 01:57:17,610 --> 01:57:21,150 serious note offering his perspective on the Oscars. So 1771 01:57:21,150 --> 01:57:23,130 White controversy so it's not 1772 01:57:23,130 --> 01:57:28,140 about boycott anything. It's just we want opportunity. What 1773 01:57:28,170 --> 01:57:32,400 black actors to get the same opportunities. 1774 01:57:36,510 --> 01:57:39,630 Immediately following the monologue, stars praised rock on 1775 01:57:39,630 --> 01:57:43,140 social media, including Amy Schumer, Oprah and Ellen 1776 01:57:43,140 --> 01:57:45,990 DeGeneres. Hello, nice 1777 01:57:45,990 --> 01:57:46,620 crew. 1778 01:57:48,780 --> 01:57:52,290 I stayed in the mix. Like I just started looking at her 1779 01:57:52,290 --> 01:57:56,910 differently. Like she she's in the mix. Is she playing both 1780 01:57:56,910 --> 01:57:59,640 sides? Notice what the monologue she's got all in there for 1781 01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:06,270 Chris. And basic exam with the Oscar. So white crowd or the 1782 01:58:06,270 --> 01:58:10,560 maxis question before we get into the donation segment. Was 1783 01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:17,100 the 94 Oscars the result of the Oscar so white, or this illusion 1784 01:58:17,100 --> 01:58:20,790 to solve Oscar so while dealing with Quincy Jones and his crew 1785 01:58:22,980 --> 01:58:27,840 I would say that that's a follow on from from Quincy, that's what 1786 01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:28,860 would make sense to me. 1787 01:58:29,610 --> 01:58:33,120 Right? Who do we know whom do we know? Who do we trust? All 1788 01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:36,000 right, let's get Quincy in. We'll get we'll Packer 1789 01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:40,350 you know, and also but also Quincy has an intimate very long 1790 01:58:40,350 --> 01:58:42,300 standing relationship with will. 1791 01:58:43,350 --> 01:58:46,590 How are we gonna get there? Oh, we got he produced Fresh Prince 1792 01:58:46,590 --> 01:58:46,680 of 1793 01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:49,560 Bel Air. Keep your intimate. 1794 01:58:51,390 --> 01:58:52,950 lmao No, 1795 01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:56,460 don't tell me I'm gonna just put my gotten is. I can't watch 1796 01:58:56,460 --> 01:58:57,780 anymore. It's too much. 1797 01:58:58,590 --> 01:59:01,590 Alright, let's let's take a cool job. Let's take a break. This is 1798 01:59:01,590 --> 01:59:05,670 nice place to take a break. Okay. Let's thanks some people. 1799 01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:09,060 First the white man and the black man have to be able to sit 1800 01:59:09,060 --> 01:59:12,150 down at the same table, the white man has to feel free to 1801 01:59:12,150 --> 01:59:15,150 speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that negro. And 1802 01:59:15,150 --> 01:59:18,300 the so called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without 1803 01:59:18,300 --> 01:59:20,970 hurting the feeling of the white man, then they can bring the 1804 01:59:20,970 --> 01:59:23,850 issue that are under the rug on top of the table and take an 1805 01:59:23,850 --> 01:59:25,860 intelligent approach to get the problem solved. 1806 01:59:25,890 --> 01:59:29,520 That's the only way that they'll ever do it. And that's exactly 1807 01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:32,730 what we've been doing. We've been talking about it for 81 1808 01:59:32,730 --> 01:59:35,550 episodes now and we continue to do it not going to grouse about 1809 01:59:35,550 --> 01:59:38,250 donations. We did that the top of the show but this is a value 1810 01:59:38,250 --> 01:59:42,390 for value proposition. Tell me you've heard anything regarding 1811 01:59:42,390 --> 01:59:46,500 this topic of any value anywhere that compares to this. I don't 1812 01:59:46,500 --> 01:59:49,320 think you'll find it. It's all been show business drivel. It's 1813 01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:52,830 all been corporate crap. This is the real deal. And I think we've 1814 01:59:52,830 --> 01:59:54,900 learned a lot of interesting things about each other and our 1815 01:59:54,900 --> 01:59:58,080 thinking along the way. And so this is where you can support 1816 01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:01,140 the value that you've received by Returning the value, it's 1817 02:00:01,140 --> 02:00:04,920 that simple. Just put down a number is many ways that you can 1818 02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:08,340 send it to us. You can do it in the modern way with a new 1819 02:00:08,340 --> 02:00:12,720 podcast app, new podcast. apps.com Cash App Pay Pal, I'm 1820 02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:16,020 actually I'm gonna ask you mode to just double check the PayPal. 1821 02:00:16,020 --> 02:00:19,590 I know we had a late donation that came in from Brian Skelton. 1822 02:00:20,100 --> 02:00:23,730 Just want to make sure because he did may be timely and he 1823 02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:26,970 emailed me about it. So while you're doing that, I will go 1824 02:00:26,970 --> 02:00:28,500 down the list of our Wait, 1825 02:00:28,530 --> 02:00:30,990 wait before we do that, because we got to check and make sure 1826 02:00:30,990 --> 02:00:37,620 that we have a we have a traffic jam up top of big ballers. So as 1827 02:00:37,620 --> 02:00:42,660 I was doing this, do we have multiple big boulders? Some kind 1828 02:00:42,660 --> 02:00:43,620 of tiebreaker? 1829 02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:46,470 Okay, so here's the here's how we're going to do it. I'm going 1830 02:00:46,470 --> 02:00:50,610 to give the names. Okay, first, then we're going to hit them 1831 02:00:50,610 --> 02:00:53,580 all. Oh, no, you're right. It got in here. I see it. Brian's 1832 02:00:53,580 --> 02:00:58,080 in here. I'm sorry. So we're gonna do all the names. We're 1833 02:00:58,080 --> 02:00:59,940 gonna hit them all with a big baller, then we're gonna read 1834 02:00:59,940 --> 02:01:00,960 the notes. How does that sound? 1835 02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:07,050 Only this time, we want to give everybody a big baller. But 1836 02:01:07,770 --> 02:01:11,340 moving forward if we can we have a meeting right quick? 1837 02:01:11,370 --> 02:01:13,830 Yeah, sure. Hold on. I don't have the I can't reach the door. 1838 02:01:13,830 --> 02:01:15,600 But okay, go ahead. Okay. All right. 1839 02:01:16,830 --> 02:01:22,290 First donation and, and the sake in it. So if you want to get big 1840 02:01:22,290 --> 02:01:25,530 baller, you think this is your opportunity to get in soon? 1841 02:01:26,070 --> 02:01:32,190 Because, you know, it's not big ballers, right? It's big baller. 1842 02:01:32,340 --> 02:01:34,830 I mean, because that's the that's the that's it. So if it's 1843 02:01:34,830 --> 02:01:38,970 this event, you let me know if this is fair. In the event of a 1844 02:01:38,970 --> 02:01:44,070 tie, whichever donation was made first will be the big baller. I 1845 02:01:44,070 --> 02:01:44,310 think 1846 02:01:44,310 --> 02:01:47,820 this is good. And so again, we'll we'll do one big baller 1847 02:01:47,820 --> 02:01:50,580 for all these people, but that's the rule moving forward. So big 1848 02:01:50,580 --> 02:01:52,830 boys today, guys, it bothered 1849 02:01:52,830 --> 02:01:56,220 me and everybody hears grandfather, Mother Dean how 1850 02:01:56,220 --> 02:02:00,000 don't want to be known counseling me for being gender 1851 02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,760 tender now. Not recognizing all genders. 1852 02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:07,980 Isaac Contreras, Brandon Archer, Jacob Wicklund, Joel Nelson, 1853 02:02:08,010 --> 02:02:12,450 Brandon Johnson, and Brian Skelton all for this 1854 02:02:12,450 --> 02:02:16,140 grandfathered one time only deal our big baller 1855 02:02:17,190 --> 02:02:20,970 shot caller 20 blades on him Paula 1856 02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:25,530 and thank you so much. Now to their notes. Isaac says much 1857 02:02:25,530 --> 02:02:27,690 love and respect here's a little something to keep the wheels 1858 02:02:27,690 --> 02:02:31,230 rolling to keep up the kicking in the crotch of the M five M 1859 02:02:31,230 --> 02:02:34,590 You are both very strong willed to listen to such a dribble and 1860 02:02:34,590 --> 02:02:38,010 not lose your minds. Thank you for your service Hari Krishna mo 1861 02:02:38,010 --> 02:02:40,350 karma if you please You bet. No problem. 1862 02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:44,280 You've got mocha comm 1863 02:02:44,490 --> 02:02:51,030 Brandon Archer wanted to cancel canon. jQa Wiklund No, nope. But 1864 02:02:51,030 --> 02:02:53,640 we appreciate your $100 Thank you very much. And of course you 1865 02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:57,360 got that big baller. Joe Nelson says My wife is annoyed that 1866 02:02:57,360 --> 02:03:00,210 anyone would take pizza and make it into a bad thing like the 1867 02:03:00,210 --> 02:03:04,320 pizza party and pizza gate. Well, sorry, 1868 02:03:04,350 --> 02:03:08,580 we didn't do that. I'm sorry. Sometimes memes are just too 1869 02:03:08,580 --> 02:03:09,030 good, man. 1870 02:03:09,450 --> 02:03:12,930 We're just we're just reporting the news. Here's Brandon 1871 02:03:12,930 --> 02:03:15,870 Johnson's note. Hey, Mo and Adam This is an imposter donation. 1872 02:03:15,870 --> 02:03:19,650 Oh, I went imposter. I had the pleasure of meeting Adam and 1873 02:03:19,650 --> 02:03:22,290 Tina at the Charleston South Carolina meetup hosted by the 1874 02:03:22,290 --> 02:03:25,890 lovely Dame Jennifer I knew since Adam has never seen you. I 1875 02:03:25,890 --> 02:03:28,860 would take it upon myself as the self proclaimed leader of The 1876 02:03:28,890 --> 02:03:35,580 Notorious B I II. Black identity X extremist to set up a mission 1877 02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:39,720 to tell Adam that I was you the pod fathers too sharp a new 1878 02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:42,630 right off the bat. I was not you in my mind. You said I'm not 1879 02:03:42,630 --> 02:03:45,300 buying it doesn't help that I'm one of those black people. That 1880 02:03:45,300 --> 02:03:49,620 sounds like a white person or so I've been told in the past. I 1881 02:03:49,620 --> 02:03:53,460 know who this is. One last thing. The sound quality you 1882 02:03:53,460 --> 02:03:56,130 produce is second to none. When I was talking to you, it felt 1883 02:03:56,130 --> 02:04:01,890 like I was talking to you live. I was talking to a live podcast 1884 02:04:01,890 --> 02:04:05,400 true lossless audio. Thanks for all you guys do love is lit no 1885 02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:09,930 jingles. No karma from Brandon. Yes, Brandon. Very handsome 1886 02:04:09,930 --> 02:04:14,340 black man actually, who was with this meetup was I mean, we 1887 02:04:14,340 --> 02:04:18,390 should be getting ESG points for our meetup. We had black white, 1888 02:04:18,420 --> 02:04:24,840 brown, yellow, crippled, old, young, ugly, beautiful nuts. 1889 02:04:25,140 --> 02:04:30,120 Colorful. Every and every single person was just beautiful. 1890 02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:35,040 You know? That's hot. That's the best family. Yeah, no gym. No 1891 02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:35,760 agenda family. Yeah, 1892 02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:37,710 we're gonna have to do a combo meet up in your neck of the 1893 02:04:37,710 --> 02:04:40,650 woods pretty soon mo we got to do this. But I still don't want 1894 02:04:40,650 --> 02:04:44,220 to see you just have blindfolds with a blindfold. 1895 02:04:45,510 --> 02:04:48,360 Silhouette behind and I was trying. 1896 02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:50,550 I was trying to explain it to Brandon. I said, you know 1897 02:04:50,550 --> 02:04:53,580 Brandon, I look at you. I'm like, Yeah, you know I have I 1898 02:04:53,580 --> 02:04:58,470 have a visual of Mo in my mind's eye. You know I have a visual of 1899 02:04:58,470 --> 02:05:01,080 your house. I have a visual of your key He have a vision, a 1900 02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:05,100 visual of your living room, I have a visual of your studio, I 1901 02:05:05,100 --> 02:05:09,720 have a visual of your kids. I have a visual of your wife. I 1902 02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:12,810 mean, I have this entire visual that I'm really happy with. 1903 02:05:14,070 --> 02:05:18,840 That's the cool thing about just to say not to make, like a big 1904 02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:22,800 deal out of it. But like when you read a book, or even like 1905 02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:28,260 listen to things on audio, like radio, radio, you kind of form 1906 02:05:28,260 --> 02:05:33,600 things in your mind. It's a more personal experience. So it's 1907 02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:36,270 everything is done here is intentional, as well. I 1908 02:05:36,420 --> 02:05:38,280 understand for a better product. Exactly what 1909 02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:45,960 exactly, but it's also it's just, it's to me, it's like I 1910 02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:51,420 love I love the man I talked to on the on the podcast. I don't 1911 02:05:51,420 --> 02:05:54,270 know. I don't know. I just I'm not gonna go anywhere. I'm just 1912 02:05:54,270 --> 02:05:57,600 staying home for the rest of my life. I don't see anybody that's 1913 02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:03,390 read on. Thanks, Brandon. That was great. Alexis Spina I think. 1914 02:06:05,610 --> 02:06:07,980 Oops. Oh, my second. What's happening there? Didn't mean to 1915 02:06:07,980 --> 02:06:12,000 do that. Alexis, did we get Alexis in the big baller? No, we 1916 02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:13,260 didn't get after we started Brandon. 1917 02:06:15,150 --> 02:06:18,450 We did Brian. We did Brandon. I don't think I did. Alexis I just 1918 02:06:18,450 --> 02:06:20,460 gotta hit her to make sure she 1919 02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:24,000 plays on I am Paula 1920 02:06:24,030 --> 02:06:26,880 got it. Gotta give her the props. Hey, mon Adam, please 1921 02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:29,670 credit this donation to my little brother Demetri Okay, so 1922 02:06:29,670 --> 02:06:32,520 that's the switcheroo. Change that 1923 02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:36,180 it can Can we can we have a clip? We have a stinger for 1924 02:06:36,180 --> 02:06:40,350 this. Can we label this douchebag that looks when 1925 02:06:40,350 --> 02:06:45,090 somebody else brings a fellow member how to douchebag dirtbag 1926 02:06:45,090 --> 02:06:48,210 eerie debt deadbeat beggary whatever you want to call it? 1927 02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:52,290 Well, no, no, no otter rears when you're brought out of rears 1928 02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:56,490 for the people didn't know what that is for Dan beets. Is the 1929 02:06:56,490 --> 02:06:58,140 deadbeat Deluxe, because 1930 02:06:59,580 --> 02:07:02,340 that means you get deadbeat and D deadbeat and in one go, 1931 02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:06,840 now we just give Alexa a deadbeat Deluxe for getting her 1932 02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:10,920 brother out of deadbeat status. 1933 02:07:11,010 --> 02:07:13,950 We don't actually have a jingle for it. Yes, we do. Yes, we do 1934 02:07:13,950 --> 02:07:17,160 have that. Yes, the deadbeat Deluxe actually. 1935 02:07:19,260 --> 02:07:24,540 Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. 1936 02:07:25,290 --> 02:07:29,790 There you go. I shared the show with him a few months back and 1937 02:07:29,790 --> 02:07:33,840 he's already almost on episode 40. This donation is an honor of 1938 02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:37,290 his 24th Birthday has an incredible heart mind and soul. 1939 02:07:37,620 --> 02:07:41,700 And I know the this show will only make him wiser please give 1940 02:07:41,700 --> 02:07:44,790 a give him a biscuit first birthday and a Russa and thank 1941 02:07:44,790 --> 02:07:49,290 you for all that you do. Always give me a biscuit on my birthday 1942 02:07:57,150 --> 02:08:00,690 big goose Brian Skelton. There he is with 100 That's my trip to 1943 02:08:00,690 --> 02:08:03,810 South Carolina. This is how I knew he was donating where I was 1944 02:08:03,810 --> 02:08:06,870 hitting the mouth about mo facts I decided I should check it out 1945 02:08:06,990 --> 02:08:11,820 result. effing read Brian's a white man 1946 02:08:19,050 --> 02:08:22,380 great discussions as soon as I heard the D dead beating I 1947 02:08:22,380 --> 02:08:25,560 immediately texted Dame Jennifer to ask if it was her voice she 1948 02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:29,370 said yes. I knew I was in good company but didn't want to be as 1949 02:08:29,370 --> 02:08:31,830 a deadbeat please D dead beat me. 1950 02:08:33,510 --> 02:08:38,490 Congratulations. You're no longer dead. The 1951 02:08:38,700 --> 02:08:41,460 he's a good guy. Great show and you have a listener for life. 1952 02:08:41,460 --> 02:08:45,240 Thanks, Brian. Amy Molen 81 Show club donation. You got it. 1953 02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:47,610 You're in there. Thank you for the insight and number 80 Thank 1954 02:08:47,610 --> 02:08:51,840 you, Amy C Davis. 50 Please D dead beat me value for value. 1955 02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:53,280 Keep on going. Sure. 1956 02:08:54,930 --> 02:09:00,210 Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. 1957 02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:04,560 Then we have our associate exec Oh, that was an Associate 1958 02:09:04,560 --> 02:09:08,790 Executive Producer Courtney Chase. Also 50 Love you guys 1959 02:09:08,790 --> 02:09:12,120 love the show. I'm gonna do mo I'm just gonna roll through all 1960 02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:15,030 of these and we'll do the the booster grams in the second 1961 02:09:15,030 --> 02:09:15,930 segment. Is that okay? Well, 1962 02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:16,800 that works for me. 1963 02:09:16,830 --> 02:09:19,800 They weren't gonna work so so stay tuned everybody because the 1964 02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:25,320 booster grams are pretty cool to brandy Bledsoe. 4444 mama be 1965 02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:28,860 nice. Thank you mama be Christopher Dibiase value for 1966 02:09:28,860 --> 02:09:34,800 value 33 Ryan shown and Ryan is female pointed out Thank you 1967 02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:38,160 Ryan we need to know these things. 25 Joe Woods 20 Jeremy 1968 02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:42,480 Kavanaugh 10 Jeffrey Smith 10 value inappropriate as it may be 1969 02:09:42,510 --> 02:09:49,710 with blessings. Terrence Lynch 10 Mark Jay Asher. He says 1970 02:09:49,710 --> 02:09:56,880 she'll Elan screw your freedoms. Nicole Garner 9.9 Interesting 1971 02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:59,970 thank you both for being truth seekers. I share your show so 1972 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,640 I've certainly paid in advertising I promise a time 1973 02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:05,550 talent treasure we accepted all please give me a biscuit a new 1974 02:10:05,550 --> 02:10:08,160 money with a tiny bit of Mo karma if it's not too much to 1975 02:10:08,160 --> 02:10:12,060 ask it's all I have but so worth it again please keep revealing 1976 02:10:12,060 --> 02:10:14,550 the truth the new money will be coming up in the moment we got 1977 02:10:14,580 --> 02:10:17,430 always give me a biscuit on my birthday. I'll give you the MO 1978 02:10:17,430 --> 02:10:23,760 karma right here as well. You've got mo calm Johnny hippo 555 He 1979 02:10:23,760 --> 02:10:26,880 says thanks Johnny from Canadian, Canada, Canadian 1980 02:10:26,910 --> 02:10:32,910 Canada, California. Canada UK CA is Canada Canada Canada. Chris 1981 02:10:32,910 --> 02:10:36,060 Cohen horror thanks for all you do. Cohen or Cohen, our calling 1982 02:10:36,060 --> 02:10:40,080 our 533. Joshua Goodson five that's a monthly Thank you Terry 1983 02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:43,230 the human subscription Keller 411. He's always there doing it 1984 02:10:43,230 --> 02:10:47,670 manually and in Edmonds rounds it out at three dot 33. Neither 1985 02:10:47,670 --> 02:10:51,090 of those gents had any notes. But thank you all very much. 1986 02:10:51,120 --> 02:10:56,040 Please, for those of you listening, step it up. I want 1987 02:10:56,040 --> 02:11:01,020 the show to continue mo will do other things. If if this just 1988 02:11:01,020 --> 02:11:04,470 it's time is talent is treasure, its value, you need to return it 1989 02:11:04,710 --> 02:11:05,370 go to 1990 02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:08,550 always had this conversation. They just won't hear it. I mean, 1991 02:11:09,780 --> 02:11:11,010 nothing's gonna stop our car. 1992 02:11:11,070 --> 02:11:16,320 Oh, no, we'll continue to have it. We're not stopping it. Yeah, 1993 02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:20,070 that's a good point. I like that a lot. For those of you who 1994 02:11:20,070 --> 02:11:22,620 supported us, of course, thank you from the bottom of our 1995 02:11:22,620 --> 02:11:25,950 hearts, we really appreciate that you can do as you can 1996 02:11:25,950 --> 02:11:29,310 support us as well, by going to mo facts.com, you can go 1997 02:11:29,310 --> 02:11:33,390 directly to the donation website at mo fund me.com, which is m 1998 02:11:33,390 --> 02:11:38,370 OEFUND. M e.com. And you can always use a modern podcast app 1999 02:11:38,370 --> 02:11:42,330 to send us the preferred way of the future. We'll be talking 2000 02:11:42,330 --> 02:11:44,760 about that in the next segment. Until then, thank you again for 2001 02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:47,580 supporting episode 81 of Mo facts with Adam curry. 2002 02:11:50,550 --> 02:11:54,600 All right, so we've we heard the monologue. We've heard about the 2003 02:11:54,600 --> 02:11:58,410 slap. But what I want to do is humanize the two men that were 2004 02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:02,670 in, you know, in this event, I'm gonna start with Chris Rock, and 2005 02:12:02,670 --> 02:12:05,640 then we'll move on to Will Smith. But we got to look at 2006 02:12:05,640 --> 02:12:08,700 their childhood because we always like to humanize, see you 2007 02:12:08,700 --> 02:12:11,910 like you brought up with Will Smith and his mother, you know, 2008 02:12:11,940 --> 02:12:15,840 his spirits were heard how it may lead to it. I want to show 2009 02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:19,800 how, like I said, these are the good guys in Hollywood. These 2010 02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:22,230 are those these are the guys that are in celebrity. I mean, 2011 02:12:22,230 --> 02:12:25,440 like black celebrities like Okay, those are the quote 2012 02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:28,860 unquote, you know, it's beyond that family friendly. Yeah, 2013 02:12:28,890 --> 02:12:31,590 these are nice black men your white daughter can come home 2014 02:12:31,590 --> 02:12:38,160 with Yeah, I'm serious. These are the non threatening black 2015 02:12:38,160 --> 02:12:39,750 men of Hollywood. That's how 2016 02:12:39,750 --> 02:12:45,360 I think and I think that's why if it was played out like I 2017 02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:48,300 think it was played out. They had a perfect tool to show 2018 02:12:48,570 --> 02:12:52,260 there's no Goodwin's cut, let me let me like something out here. 2019 02:12:52,559 --> 02:12:54,149 Yeah, that's that said, 2020 02:12:54,870 --> 02:12:56,700 cuz I want to lay this out how 2021 02:12:58,590 --> 02:13:04,890 if it ever becomes popular, not to buy on with the woke ism, 2022 02:13:05,430 --> 02:13:08,700 that they try to force down our throat with Black Twitter, with 2023 02:13:08,700 --> 02:13:14,010 di D, with all this woke agenda. And black men are truly 2024 02:13:14,010 --> 02:13:17,520 representative as the marker server to people that we are not 2025 02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:22,620 politically I'm talking about socially. And we also want to 2026 02:13:22,830 --> 02:13:28,170 celebrate our individual identity and not be told to shut 2027 02:13:28,170 --> 02:13:32,010 up and just stay the bottom. That and that enter row style 2028 02:13:32,010 --> 02:13:38,640 whole agenda. That because that opens it up to right now even 2029 02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:42,240 here, everybody else, all the Hispanics are going to that 2030 02:13:42,270 --> 02:13:48,330 those 7030 4060 Split voting, right? The black bloc is the 2031 02:13:48,330 --> 02:13:54,000 only blot the Democrats can count on. And if that ever gets 2032 02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:58,020 to we saw with Trump, you know, he doubled, but 2016 and 2020 2033 02:13:58,110 --> 02:14:01,650 and black women and black men voted for him. And I said, you 2034 02:14:01,650 --> 02:14:04,680 know I stand on voting I don't vote. But the reason I'm saying 2035 02:14:04,680 --> 02:14:12,210 this is you think this slap will impact the image. And this is 2036 02:14:12,210 --> 02:14:14,670 something to Kevin Samuels just to bring him up once more time 2037 02:14:14,670 --> 02:14:19,170 was all about our racial image and that's what pissed a piece 2038 02:14:19,170 --> 02:14:22,140 pissed off a lot of people about him because it's like no we 2039 02:14:22,140 --> 02:14:25,530 won't be your sacrificial lamb we won't be the bottom you know 2040 02:14:25,530 --> 02:14:29,760 as he said in the clip, I play two aces brute thing they want 2041 02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:34,050 to have with us like Oh, me, me, man, you were saying like to 2042 02:14:34,050 --> 02:14:37,320 take two good guys like this and play that out on an 2043 02:14:37,380 --> 02:14:44,250 international stage. A little bit of wind out of the sails of 2044 02:14:45,120 --> 02:14:49,200 of the movement of black male independence quest. Oh, 2045 02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:53,790 so now we come back to what I said earlier. is taken it out 2046 02:14:54,300 --> 02:14:58,770 for you for yourselves. But perhaps not so much to the rest 2047 02:14:58,770 --> 02:15:01,320 of the world. I know it's much deeper than that you and I know 2048 02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:04,740 much better but to superficial people who just kind of like, I 2049 02:15:04,740 --> 02:15:08,400 don't know if they feel like like black men are any worse 2050 02:15:08,430 --> 02:15:10,440 than they might have thought or not thought 2051 02:15:11,730 --> 02:15:16,470 this is important enter a community. This is important, 2052 02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:20,640 this is very important and true. The quote unquote community, 2053 02:15:20,940 --> 02:15:24,510 because it's like this is your leadership, like this is who you 2054 02:15:24,510 --> 02:15:29,460 want to follow. You know, that's the whole point of it was 2055 02:15:29,820 --> 02:15:32,430 because this one thing that might not bleed over the all the 2056 02:15:32,430 --> 02:15:35,460 intellects and intricate details didn't bleed over the timeline 2057 02:15:36,210 --> 02:15:36,900 into your 2058 02:15:37,589 --> 02:15:40,499 at all know that this is why I'm bringing it up, because all 2059 02:15:40,499 --> 02:15:43,739 these things almost seem self imposed. But I understand what 2060 02:15:43,739 --> 02:15:45,449 you're saying, Now this, this helps a lot, 2061 02:15:45,660 --> 02:15:49,320 right? Because this is gets them back on the booty to the polls. 2062 02:15:51,030 --> 02:15:55,530 This the group mentality and that's why Kevin was so savage 2063 02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:58,740 about the way he came in. And I felt the same way because he's 2064 02:15:58,740 --> 02:16:03,570 like, Oh, this is the destabilized the image of black 2065 02:16:03,570 --> 02:16:07,050 men, the way it played out, but now we got to go and look at the 2066 02:16:07,050 --> 02:16:09,420 background of these two men, which I don't think many people 2067 02:16:09,420 --> 02:16:12,960 talked about. And this is Chris right before the Oscars Chris 2068 02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:16,020 Rock open about his child childhood trauma he experienced 2069 02:16:16,260 --> 02:16:19,410 Sunday night's asker assault is still very much an evolving 2070 02:16:19,410 --> 02:16:22,500 topic. And people are focusing on a podcast from back in 2071 02:16:22,500 --> 02:16:26,070 January, where Chris Rock recounted how a violent incident 2072 02:16:26,070 --> 02:16:29,040 from his childhood impacted him later in life. Take a look 2073 02:16:29,490 --> 02:16:33,750 at my child I was bullied ridiculously the half of it the 2074 02:16:33,750 --> 02:16:36,870 bullies because I was just a little guy. And then I got bused 2075 02:16:36,870 --> 02:16:40,530 to school. So I got I was a little guy and I was black. One 2076 02:16:40,530 --> 02:16:44,640 day a guy really disrespected me really bad, like, mush me at a 2077 02:16:44,640 --> 02:16:51,990 party. And I went home, I put a brick in a bag and smack this 2078 02:16:51,990 --> 02:16:55,770 guy in the face with this brick, and then stomp to Joe Pesci 2079 02:16:55,770 --> 02:17:00,420 style. Now, to the point we thought he might die. That's my 2080 02:17:00,420 --> 02:17:03,450 shrink puts it to me, you have been scared to be angry ever 2081 02:17:03,450 --> 02:17:09,000 since. So the guy you saw was bending over backwards to be 2082 02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:11,160 nice, but I was so scared of my 2083 02:17:12,660 --> 02:17:16,080 you know, and the question is, did the incident have anything 2084 02:17:16,080 --> 02:17:19,410 to do with the way he handled things at the Oscars? Or was he 2085 02:17:19,410 --> 02:17:22,470 being the adult in the room? I think both things are true. And 2086 02:17:22,470 --> 02:17:27,990 I want to ask people, why you think he would have indulged in 2087 02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:33,450 a brawl on a stage in front of 3 billion people? Why wouldn't he 2088 02:17:33,450 --> 02:17:37,290 be the adult? I keep hearing that and people keep saying 2089 02:17:37,500 --> 02:17:40,170 people are going to, you know, think of black people the wrong 2090 02:17:40,170 --> 02:17:43,230 way? Well, let me tell you, they should be looking at us saying, 2091 02:17:43,350 --> 02:17:47,520 oh, okay, because he didn't indulge, he didn't there's 2092 02:17:47,520 --> 02:17:51,720 nothing wrong with what he did. So there's no reason for anybody 2093 02:17:51,780 --> 02:17:55,680 to have any issue with black people. You have an issue with 2094 02:17:55,680 --> 02:17:59,460 Will Smith and what he did, yeah, he doesn't represent every 2095 02:17:59,460 --> 02:18:02,040 black person on the planet fast. I'm doing that. 2096 02:18:02,070 --> 02:18:06,060 Wow. So Whoopi, just putting it out there in case it hadn't 2097 02:18:06,060 --> 02:18:08,880 traumatized you about black men. Here's something to not think 2098 02:18:08,880 --> 02:18:09,330 about. 2099 02:18:09,960 --> 02:18:12,360 Right? That's horrible. I don't think I don't think she 2100 02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:15,960 intentionally done that. Because she's on the remember. She was 2101 02:18:15,960 --> 02:18:19,260 supportive of Chris Rock. And doing the Oscars. I know. 2102 02:18:19,260 --> 02:18:22,350 But but she brought something up that her predominantly white 2103 02:18:22,350 --> 02:18:24,870 audience wasn't even thinking about this is my point. 2104 02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:29,460 See, I didn't see it that way. Yeah. Oh, so you're saying, 2105 02:18:29,670 --> 02:18:32,880 don't talk about what I'm just gonna talk to you about kind of 2106 02:18:34,320 --> 02:18:35,340 about what I'm about to say, you 2107 02:18:35,910 --> 02:18:42,090 know, what I'm saying is, she's propagating the the trauma 2108 02:18:42,120 --> 02:18:47,700 interracially right. I don't understand why because I don't 2109 02:18:47,700 --> 02:18:50,850 think that that was people are looking at two actors. Their 2110 02:18:50,850 --> 02:18:53,610 audience looked at actors. Their audience weren't thinking about 2111 02:18:53,610 --> 02:18:54,960 that. Now they are. 2112 02:18:55,800 --> 02:18:57,840 Right. That's what I said. Don't think about what I'm telling 2113 02:18:57,840 --> 02:19:01,290 you. Yes. Yeah. That's like, it's like when people say I got 2114 02:19:01,290 --> 02:19:05,640 something to tell you. I'll tell you later. Yeah. Exactly. Just 2115 02:19:05,640 --> 02:19:09,480 tell me later I got time. Like that's very manipulative. I 2116 02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:11,220 didn't look at it that way. That's very that's very 2117 02:19:11,220 --> 02:19:16,860 interesting. Oh, was gonna tell you how I heard doing this when 2118 02:19:16,860 --> 02:19:20,550 we hear so here today. Of course, I was hearing her say, 2119 02:19:21,480 --> 02:19:24,480 by all black people don't think this way of it's okay to go up 2120 02:19:24,480 --> 02:19:27,210 on the stage and smack somebody or get into a bra with people 2121 02:19:27,420 --> 02:19:30,150 that you were hearing for Tiffany? Haddish. He was saying 2122 02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:33,150 like, divine violence is not okay. 2123 02:19:33,450 --> 02:19:37,440 Let's listen to it again. Okay. It's worth it. I liked it. I 2124 02:19:37,440 --> 02:19:40,080 love it when we hear things differently. That's what makes 2125 02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:42,240 it so beautiful. Studio 2126 02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:45,390 Sunday night's ask her salt is still very much an evolving 2127 02:19:45,390 --> 02:19:49,200 topic and people are focusing on a podcast from back in January, 2128 02:19:49,410 --> 02:19:52,380 where Chris Rock recounted how a violent incident from his 2129 02:19:52,380 --> 02:19:55,020 childhood impacted him late in life. Take a look. 2130 02:19:55,110 --> 02:19:57,930 Okay, so this makes sense right now this is this is actually 2131 02:19:57,930 --> 02:20:01,230 great information. This is just as Uh, you know, everyone has 2132 02:20:01,230 --> 02:20:04,380 trauma and I'll skip past the part of him retelling the whole 2133 02:20:04,380 --> 02:20:08,670 story. But this is good. I mean, this is an that's an interesting 2134 02:20:08,700 --> 02:20:11,520 topic that she's bringing up. So okay, this is why Chris Rock may 2135 02:20:11,520 --> 02:20:15,120 not have fought back is because this is his his individual 2136 02:20:15,120 --> 02:20:17,280 trauma that he actually went to a psychiatrist for 2137 02:20:17,310 --> 02:20:20,610 die was bending over backwards, 2138 02:20:21,510 --> 02:20:24,930 you know, and the question is, did the incident have anything 2139 02:20:24,930 --> 02:20:28,260 to do with the way he handled things at the Oscars? Or was he 2140 02:20:28,260 --> 02:20:31,320 being the adult in the room? I think both things are true. And 2141 02:20:31,320 --> 02:20:36,840 I want to ask people, why you think he would have indulged in 2142 02:20:37,050 --> 02:20:42,300 a brawl on a stage in front of 3 billion people? Why wouldn't he 2143 02:20:42,300 --> 02:20:46,140 be the adult? I keep hearing that and people keep saying 2144 02:20:46,350 --> 02:20:49,230 people are gonna you know, think of black people the wrong way. 2145 02:20:49,230 --> 02:20:50,070 Well, let me tell you 2146 02:20:50,610 --> 02:20:56,370 no, not people black people. That's that's that's the thing 2147 02:20:56,370 --> 02:21:01,350 right there. And also understand the view is highly scripted. 2148 02:21:01,350 --> 02:21:03,480 This was premeditated that she said this 2149 02:21:04,950 --> 02:21:08,940 point point taking. So I mean, that just it just goes to show 2150 02:21:08,940 --> 02:21:15,180 you that that racial image is always being thought about to 2151 02:21:15,180 --> 02:21:17,640 say, Okay, we don't want to be seen like you know, saying 2152 02:21:17,640 --> 02:21:18,690 brutes or whatever. 2153 02:21:18,720 --> 02:21:24,360 Hey, well, welcome to my club brother. Was that but my club is 2154 02:21:24,390 --> 02:21:28,080 everything a white man says has to you have to filter it is his 2155 02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:30,870 racist, is I'm saying Am I saying something in my out of 2156 02:21:30,870 --> 02:21:33,060 MIT character? Am I saying something that's wrong? Am I 2157 02:21:33,060 --> 02:21:36,150 going to hurt someone's feelings? I'm not putting me 2158 02:21:36,150 --> 02:21:36,930 above you 2159 02:21:36,960 --> 02:21:40,500 know, it's not saying it's different filters. I mean, this 2160 02:21:40,500 --> 02:21:45,240 is what brought us together because it's different filtering 2161 02:21:45,240 --> 02:21:51,030 mechanism, but the fact that the filters their day, you know, go 2162 02:21:51,030 --> 02:21:57,210 back one minute when even when I was the lady from the tall lady 2163 02:21:57,210 --> 02:21:59,370 with the short hair on Good Morning, America. I forget her 2164 02:21:59,370 --> 02:22:04,590 name. Robin. Robin. When she started to talk about JD she was 2165 02:22:04,590 --> 02:22:08,070 like your beautiful wife. Isn't she amazing? Like she had to. 2166 02:22:08,430 --> 02:22:11,040 Even when talking about one of her sisters, she had to lay it 2167 02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:15,870 on thick Before criticizing it's different filters for everybody. 2168 02:22:15,900 --> 02:22:20,340 And what we do here is to have an honest conversation. I don't 2169 02:22:20,340 --> 02:22:22,800 worry about you being offended. You don't worry about me being 2170 02:22:22,800 --> 02:22:26,580 offended. And it's really a rare space because everywhere else 2171 02:22:26,580 --> 02:22:30,870 you have to think about it. Even if even if you go on proceed 2172 02:22:30,870 --> 02:22:34,380 what you thought about before thinking the fact that you had 2173 02:22:34,380 --> 02:22:39,120 to think it that's the real market. Yes, exactly. Alright, 2174 02:22:39,120 --> 02:22:44,190 so. Yeah. So now I want to get into a little bit deeper of the 2175 02:22:44,220 --> 02:22:46,740 abuse that Chris Rock experienced. 2176 02:22:47,220 --> 02:22:52,560 This is a horrible existence. The closest character I can 2177 02:22:52,590 --> 02:22:59,400 relate to is Tim Robbins in the Shawshank. Every day was hell. I 2178 02:22:59,400 --> 02:23:05,280 was a nigger, and I got fucking my ass beat. And I got 2179 02:23:05,370 --> 02:23:10,350 physically fucked up. And sometimes some sexual shit 2180 02:23:10,350 --> 02:23:15,540 happen. And yeah, like, I wasn't raped but rubbish. 2181 02:23:17,550 --> 02:23:18,570 Okay. 2182 02:23:19,980 --> 02:23:27,540 I found that to be like, I need to follow a rapist right ish. So 2183 02:23:27,870 --> 02:23:31,140 and to go back when Chris 2184 02:23:31,410 --> 02:23:34,500 when he said when he says that I heard banjos playing for some 2185 02:23:34,500 --> 02:23:39,780 reason? I don't know. deliveries, right? Yeah. Wow. 2186 02:23:40,170 --> 02:23:42,750 Okay, Chris. Hey, I'd be traumatized to brother 2187 02:23:44,160 --> 02:23:46,830 with nobody asked a follow up. Oh, no, of 2188 02:23:46,830 --> 02:23:49,710 course not. That would be journalism stop button 2189 02:23:49,710 --> 02:23:55,350 and also nobody cares. If nobody cares. It's the shows I want to 2190 02:23:55,350 --> 02:23:59,130 start happening to talk about and some topics I'm gonna talk 2191 02:23:59,130 --> 02:24:03,720 about. Nobody cares about black man abuse. Nobody. I mean, like, 2192 02:24:03,720 --> 02:24:07,200 we're as a demographic, we weren't the most abused people 2193 02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:12,120 look at prison rape in their trivializes jokes is comedy. You 2194 02:24:12,120 --> 02:24:15,810 know, so yeah. Oh, you got I mean, like even him being 2195 02:24:15,810 --> 02:24:17,760 bullied on the show. Everybody Hates Chris. I'm gonna it's 2196 02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:21,810 portrayed out, but it's done in a self deprecating humor kind of 2197 02:24:21,810 --> 02:24:26,940 way. And that's that thing I told my I talked about before 2198 02:24:26,940 --> 02:24:32,580 with me. I'm serious, because everybody expects you to laugh 2199 02:24:32,580 --> 02:24:35,220 and joke and not be serious because you don't want to seem 2200 02:24:35,220 --> 02:24:38,700 intimidating or that kind of thing. That's that filter is 2201 02:24:38,700 --> 02:24:40,800 like that was the thing like he doesn't want to be seen as 2202 02:24:40,830 --> 02:24:45,780 angry. So you got to smile and just take it in? No, we're not 2203 02:24:45,780 --> 02:24:48,720 gonna take it anymore. You know, it was a cuter music. But 2204 02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:52,770 that's, that's where we're at with it. And that's, I think 2205 02:24:52,770 --> 02:24:55,680 that's what they're trying to put a wet blanket over. It's 2206 02:24:55,680 --> 02:24:59,970 like no, you can't have men in general black men more 2207 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:03,720 specifically for my case, saying what they feel like that's, 2208 02:25:03,930 --> 02:25:08,910 that's a bad idea, right? Oh, for a certain group of people to 2209 02:25:08,910 --> 02:25:11,370 say what we signed on to and what we know. And it's the same 2210 02:25:11,370 --> 02:25:13,530 thing for your group, like when you start taking out the 2211 02:25:13,530 --> 02:25:16,470 filters, and saying what you want to say, then we can get to 2212 02:25:16,470 --> 02:25:20,910 some. Yeah, some common ground. And I think that's the real 2213 02:25:20,910 --> 02:25:24,390 thing. They want to stop. So now that's his trauma, childhood 2214 02:25:24,390 --> 02:25:28,650 trauma. Let's go over to the other side. And race plays a lot 2215 02:25:28,650 --> 02:25:31,620 into his because he was going to a white school. Now this is Will 2216 02:25:31,620 --> 02:25:34,500 Smith talking about racism and his career in childhood. 2217 02:25:34,830 --> 02:25:37,830 Early on in your rap career, you write about facing constant 2218 02:25:37,830 --> 02:25:41,220 criticism, and I love this quote, you say, a Catholic 2219 02:25:41,220 --> 02:25:44,430 school no matter how well spoken or intelligent I was, I was 2220 02:25:44,430 --> 02:25:48,210 still the black kid and Winfield. No matter how up I was 2221 02:25:48,210 --> 02:25:51,750 on the latest music and fashion, I was never quite black. Enough, 2222 02:25:52,230 --> 02:25:54,630 I became one of the first hip hop artists who was considered 2223 02:25:54,630 --> 02:25:57,780 safe enough for white audiences. But with black audiences, I was 2224 02:25:57,780 --> 02:26:02,190 labeled soft, because I wasn't rapping about hardcore gangster 2225 02:26:02,670 --> 02:26:06,870 stuff. This racial dynamic is something that has plagued me in 2226 02:26:06,870 --> 02:26:10,500 various forms throughout my entire life. And I wanted to ask 2227 02:26:10,500 --> 02:26:14,760 you, how have you navigated what you call this racial dynamic? 2228 02:26:15,120 --> 02:26:25,920 So the elixir for me has been comedy. Comedy crosses, all 2229 02:26:25,920 --> 02:26:29,190 divides. If you know how to make people. 2230 02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:34,440 Different wheel. Yes. Yes, very. 2231 02:26:36,480 --> 02:26:39,420 We listen to we'll listen to all the different wheels, because 2232 02:26:39,420 --> 02:26:44,550 that's very jarring. very jarring to me. When you listen 2233 02:26:44,550 --> 02:26:45,720 to him in different spots. 2234 02:26:45,720 --> 02:26:48,270 That is so true. That is completely completely different 2235 02:26:48,270 --> 02:26:50,100 will. Interesting. All right. 2236 02:26:51,030 --> 02:26:57,600 Comedy crosses, all divides. If you learn how to make people 2237 02:26:58,020 --> 02:27:06,030 laugh, it's like it's the sugar for anything else that you want 2238 02:27:06,030 --> 02:27:11,850 to bring to that person. People are wide open when they're 2239 02:27:11,850 --> 02:27:23,130 laughing. Right. So for me, throughout my career, the bigger 2240 02:27:23,160 --> 02:27:31,350 the lash. I realized, the less I was the black dude. 2241 02:27:31,530 --> 02:27:35,520 Oh, really? No. 2242 02:27:37,080 --> 02:27:41,160 So you, Chris Rock dealt with the same thing? Yeah. Not being 2243 02:27:41,160 --> 02:27:45,480 black enough. And I want to make something clear. There are black 2244 02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:51,330 comedians and actors that are seeing as though Black White 2245 02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:58,500 comedians and actors like they could. And it's bear with me to 2246 02:27:58,500 --> 02:28:03,060 try to explain this to my David Chappelle. He doesn't make black 2247 02:28:03,060 --> 02:28:09,390 comedy. Chris Rock didn't make quote unquote black comedy. No, 2248 02:28:09,630 --> 02:28:16,200 in his way, like, say it. Wanda Sykes, another one. The one that 2249 02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:19,770 addressed it the best was Wayne Brady when he was on Chappelle 2250 02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:23,430 because he they kind of acknowledged it like Wayne Brady 2251 02:28:23,430 --> 02:28:30,000 is like a showtunes Broadway kind of act is not black 2252 02:28:30,030 --> 02:28:34,050 targeted media let me be clear what that is. It's funded by the 2253 02:28:34,050 --> 02:28:39,450 same people but it's targeted in a different way. I'm even have 2254 02:28:39,450 --> 02:28:43,890 this in YouTube. You have black targeted content creators and 2255 02:28:43,890 --> 02:28:47,190 you have black content. Yeah, content creators who happen to 2256 02:28:47,190 --> 02:28:51,180 be black. Okay, there's a there's a difference and I just 2257 02:28:51,180 --> 02:28:56,340 want to point all this out. Because this is why the robe of 2258 02:28:56,340 --> 02:29:01,500 Chris bra being told you're the best you're the best guy for the 2259 02:29:01,500 --> 02:29:06,510 job. He was like what does that mean? Right? And I'm sure we all 2260 02:29:06,510 --> 02:29:10,800 can empathize with him because he was just like you said this 2261 02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:15,150 safe black guy to bring home to your parents. You know nobody 2262 02:29:15,150 --> 02:29:18,690 wants to be safe at this beat let's just be honest I mean like 2263 02:29:18,690 --> 02:29:22,110 nobody that's not a it's something that you want to be 2264 02:29:22,110 --> 02:29:25,860 that's not something you want to be known as right like equates 2265 02:29:25,860 --> 02:29:34,950 the boring equates to lame in a way Yeah. So I just want I just 2266 02:29:34,950 --> 02:29:36,750 want to point that out understand that's definitely 2267 02:29:36,750 --> 02:29:44,190 that's why 2016 was the real robe. And what we saw play out 2268 02:29:45,090 --> 02:29:50,730 this this that this year, but just a result of that. Are you 2269 02:29:50,730 --> 02:29:55,470 the best guy for the job? Here Hi, Chris. How are you? Oh, 2270 02:29:55,470 --> 02:30:00,690 yeah. For that racist white Show. 2271 02:30:00,840 --> 02:30:05,340 Yeah, I got a cat man. It's crazy. I know exactly how he 2272 02:30:05,340 --> 02:30:10,290 heard it in Yeah. So and I'm sure Chris knew as well. But 2273 02:30:10,290 --> 02:30:12,960 let's get into the second part of Christian right man willing 2274 02:30:12,960 --> 02:30:13,680 white racism. 2275 02:30:14,369 --> 02:30:22,169 Right? The bigger the laugh, the less I was the soft dude. Right 2276 02:30:22,319 --> 02:30:30,389 laughter trumps everything right? And it's it's a magical 2277 02:30:30,539 --> 02:30:36,149 it's a magical energy that connects people and that it for 2278 02:30:36,149 --> 02:30:39,839 a brief moment at least purifies the poises 2279 02:30:39,870 --> 02:30:45,180 Yes. And you're not in any way didn't marginalizing or 2280 02:30:45,180 --> 02:30:49,230 minimizing overt racism because you say every encounter I ever 2281 02:30:49,230 --> 02:30:54,540 had with overt racism were with people I estimated to be weak 2282 02:30:54,540 --> 02:30:59,280 enemies at best, so overt racism although dangerous and ever 2283 02:30:59,280 --> 02:31:02,940 present never made me feel inferior. I thought that was so 2284 02:31:02,940 --> 02:31:07,470 interesting. I felt the same way. I was raised to believe 2285 02:31:07,470 --> 02:31:10,650 that you can encounter any situation racist or otherwise 2286 02:31:10,650 --> 02:31:14,520 hard work education and God will topple any and all obstacles and 2287 02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:17,340 enemies and I wonder how did that affect you moving to the 2288 02:31:17,340 --> 02:31:20,310 world of power as a black man 2289 02:31:20,670 --> 02:31:28,230 so it's funny to Tyrese called me one time he was going through 2290 02:31:28,230 --> 02:31:28,680 some 2291 02:31:29,430 --> 02:31:34,530 who's Tyrese Tyrese from transformers Fast and Furious. 2292 02:31:34,560 --> 02:31:39,660 Got it, got it got ya. And he was mad. He had just left a 2293 02:31:39,660 --> 02:31:44,640 meeting or something like that. And he said, Hey, man, what I 2294 02:31:44,640 --> 02:31:52,950 got to do to walk into these meetings and have them not look 2295 02:31:52,950 --> 02:31:58,050 at me as just walking into office. And I said, Well, you 2296 02:31:58,050 --> 02:32:01,020 got to stop thinking of yourself as walking in office. 2297 02:32:03,720 --> 02:32:07,920 So come with me, and I want to address why he brought out 2298 02:32:07,920 --> 02:32:11,760 magical. And that's what I was talking about in the magical 2299 02:32:11,760 --> 02:32:14,430 negro. And what that is, is, like I say it's the 2300 02:32:14,430 --> 02:32:19,200 stereotypical role and you start it starts to trend it starts to 2301 02:32:19,920 --> 02:32:23,580 stick with you off the screen. That's just like Morgan Freeman. 2302 02:32:23,580 --> 02:32:29,250 He's seen as you know, God, you know, saying like all like 2303 02:32:29,250 --> 02:32:31,650 President God, this kind of thing. He solves everybody's 2304 02:32:31,650 --> 02:32:35,190 problems. One of the best magical Negro roles that was 2305 02:32:35,520 --> 02:32:38,970 snapples that was played was Will Smith and The Legend of 2306 02:32:38,970 --> 02:32:43,920 Bagger Vance. And what it is, is you're a black man, but your 2307 02:32:43,920 --> 02:32:48,030 whole goal is to be the Savior for white well white character. 2308 02:32:48,690 --> 02:32:54,210 You know, it's not about me, I went I suffered so I can be the 2309 02:32:54,210 --> 02:33:02,580 safe character that oh sacrifice once again, sacrifice my own 2310 02:33:02,580 --> 02:33:07,410 wants and needs for your improvement. And like I say, 2311 02:33:07,440 --> 02:33:16,650 Bagger Vance was like one of the go to textbook examples and it's 2312 02:33:16,650 --> 02:33:20,100 fun I'm gonna turn it over to you just want to point out one 2313 02:33:20,100 --> 02:33:26,040 more thing the determination hard work and God notice they 2314 02:33:26,100 --> 02:33:28,350 went to Boulais a member to sitting down having a 2315 02:33:28,350 --> 02:33:34,890 conversation they can say that but if you say that like out it 2316 02:33:34,890 --> 02:33:40,290 conflicts with everything. The Democrats or liberals think 2317 02:33:41,460 --> 02:33:46,860 yeah, Oprah can't say that out loud. I mean, like use her full 2318 02:33:46,860 --> 02:33:47,640 voice to say 2319 02:33:47,640 --> 02:33:51,420 no, she she says she in fact she used it as other people saying 2320 02:33:51,480 --> 02:33:53,790 this is what people were saying herself other people 2321 02:33:54,390 --> 02:33:58,350 right. But they both agree that's how you do it but they 2322 02:33:58,350 --> 02:34:03,570 can't do that because that ruins the whole victimhood dia drift 2323 02:34:06,210 --> 02:34:11,640 is a very nuanced conversation. It's a very nuanced conversation 2324 02:34:11,670 --> 02:34:16,290 and it's gas and brakes it's like ah, we can't go too far oh 2325 02:34:16,290 --> 02:34:20,220 that God and determination thing but we're Boulais brothers and 2326 02:34:20,220 --> 02:34:22,230 sister we can have this conversation amongst ourselves 2327 02:34:22,230 --> 02:34:31,140 yeah so um yeah so I mean it's it's it's very Alexei has very 2328 02:34:31,140 --> 02:34:37,350 many layers to this. But going on to the next clip. I think 2329 02:34:37,350 --> 02:34:40,650 this is this is a long clip so stop it where you want to, but I 2330 02:34:40,650 --> 02:34:45,480 left all the music, the fanfare everything in because I believe 2331 02:34:45,510 --> 02:34:50,700 this was the passing of the guard. From Bill Cosby to Will 2332 02:34:50,700 --> 02:34:51,180 Smith. 2333 02:34:52,140 --> 02:35:00,000 Oh, my. Okay, the truth. That's some interesting shoes to fill. 2334 02:35:00,840 --> 02:35:03,450 Now just listen to the recent This is older that means like 2335 02:35:03,450 --> 02:35:08,160 9899 essence wars, if if my memory serves me correctly, but 2336 02:35:08,160 --> 02:35:12,480 listen to Bill Cosby's reception in the room 2337 02:35:16,440 --> 02:35:19,320 ladies and gentlemen, please welcome a man who says the 2338 02:35:19,320 --> 02:35:24,300 darndest things 1990 sevens essence award recipient Mr. Bill 2339 02:35:24,300 --> 02:35:24,810 Cosby 2340 02:35:27,720 --> 02:35:30,930 yeah that's when he had kids say the darndest things that TV show 2341 02:35:31,080 --> 02:35:31,680 was very 2342 02:35:32,519 --> 02:35:46,649 big this is what this is him at his peak ultimate Peak Peak this 2343 02:35:46,649 --> 02:35:59,279 to the past you standing ovation 2344 02:36:06,270 --> 02:36:11,730 once upon a time, there was a young guy from Philadelphia 2345 02:36:11,730 --> 02:36:12,810 named Will 2346 02:36:18,930 --> 02:36:26,820 in many ways, he was an ordinary fellow from nice home living off 2347 02:36:26,820 --> 02:36:33,180 of his parents. And while he did that his parents taught him 2348 02:36:33,210 --> 02:36:38,910 right from wrong. But he found that he had an extraordinary 2349 02:36:38,910 --> 02:36:47,490 gift and it turned him into a Fresh Prince. He could fashion a 2350 02:36:47,490 --> 02:36:57,750 rhyme at the drop of a dime. All the neighborhood kids marveled 2351 02:36:57,750 --> 02:37:04,560 at this ability, which he most often displayed at parties with 2352 02:37:04,560 --> 02:37:09,060 his best friend, DJ Jazzy 2353 02:37:09,060 --> 02:37:25,770 Jeff Grammy goes to Well Jeff and I never really wanted 2354 02:37:25,800 --> 02:37:29,580 anything other than to hear our record on the radio. That was 2355 02:37:29,580 --> 02:37:34,680 like the big thing. And it made June 1986 You know, Jeff and I, 2356 02:37:34,680 --> 02:37:38,250 we were at my father's business and we saw a guy run by bobbing 2357 02:37:38,250 --> 02:37:41,220 his head to girls ain't nothing but trouble. And from that 2358 02:37:41,220 --> 02:37:43,920 point, we've been completely beyond anything we ever dreamed 2359 02:37:44,280 --> 02:37:44,820 last week. 2360 02:37:47,100 --> 02:37:49,530 And if you heard that I heard that you could hear Chris Rock 2361 02:37:49,530 --> 02:37:57,090 presenting the award Grammy award right to Will Smith that 2362 02:37:57,090 --> 02:37:59,670 just just let you know that there. There's history between 2363 02:37:59,670 --> 02:38:02,730 those two? No kidding, because because he needs a war shot. I 2364 02:38:02,730 --> 02:38:05,670 don't know if people knew this or not. You can select who you 2365 02:38:05,670 --> 02:38:08,640 want to give you award. I mean, everybody knows who's won. 2366 02:38:08,730 --> 02:38:10,770 That's why they know that show up or not. 2367 02:38:13,230 --> 02:38:15,840 Yeah, 2368 02:38:16,260 --> 02:38:19,260 but because you saw this with Kanye and ludicrous when he 2369 02:38:19,260 --> 02:38:23,070 first won his Grammys him and Luke was very close. So that was 2370 02:38:23,670 --> 02:38:28,320 I think that's an indicator to how close a Christian we'll were 2371 02:38:29,130 --> 02:38:35,910 prior to this whole situation. All right. So fresh prints. I 2372 02:38:35,910 --> 02:38:40,560 think this goes to your point about letting a young black man 2373 02:38:40,560 --> 02:38:44,910 into your home. That was a big deal that show yeah. 2374 02:38:46,680 --> 02:38:47,850 So um, 2375 02:38:49,110 --> 02:38:55,500 that that Monday slot, NBC, NBC Cosby, this show was created by 2376 02:38:55,500 --> 02:38:59,040 Quincy Jones, you hear over and you're saying like, I want to 2377 02:38:59,100 --> 02:39:04,650 stress the point that Will Smith is super duper Boulay. All the 2378 02:39:04,650 --> 02:39:09,060 old school put their hand on him like he was saying that clip 2379 02:39:09,060 --> 02:39:10,800 between him and Bill Cosby. He was pretty 2380 02:39:10,800 --> 02:39:13,320 much that was the Barack Obama of Hollywood. 2381 02:39:13,680 --> 02:39:18,900 He was nice. And there is a resemblance between wills and 2382 02:39:18,900 --> 02:39:22,650 Brock Obama and the IRS and everything like that. So just 2383 02:39:22,650 --> 02:39:26,010 don't let that slip past you either. But this is the story of 2384 02:39:26,010 --> 02:39:30,150 how Fresh Prince became the first Prince. 2385 02:39:30,330 --> 02:39:33,120 Before I was getting in trouble with Uncle Phil. I was in 2386 02:39:33,120 --> 02:39:38,220 trouble with Uncle Sam. Me and Jeff had come out with our smash 2387 02:39:38,220 --> 02:39:40,770 hit. parents just don't understand. We made a bunch of 2388 02:39:40,770 --> 02:39:44,550 money. We won a Grammy album was triple platinum. I have 2389 02:39:44,550 --> 02:39:48,630 motorcycles and cars are called the Gucci store in Atlanta. And 2390 02:39:48,630 --> 02:39:52,590 I was like, close it down if I bring my friends, and I'm 2391 02:39:52,590 --> 02:39:58,050 smiling, but that's stupid. We released our next album, and it 2392 02:39:58,050 --> 02:40:05,310 was like a flop It was a tragedy. It went like double 2393 02:40:05,310 --> 02:40:10,350 plastic. I spent most of my money, like all of I spent all 2394 02:40:10,350 --> 02:40:17,550 my money. And I didn't forget. But I didn't pay the IRS in 2395 02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:21,750 mind. I mean, I wasn't like, trying to avoid paying taxes. I 2396 02:40:21,750 --> 02:40:26,940 was just like, Oh, damn, they need the money. The IRS took off 2397 02:40:26,940 --> 02:40:31,410 with all that stuff. So I was like, broke, broke, broke. Being 2398 02:40:31,410 --> 02:40:36,360 famous and broke is a combination, because you still 2399 02:40:36,360 --> 02:40:40,440 famous and people recognize us, but they recognize you while you 2400 02:40:40,440 --> 02:40:44,910 sit next to them on the bus. And the stuff they asked you to sign 2401 02:40:45,030 --> 02:40:49,560 on a bus. Oh, can you saw my baby? That's a Sharpie. I 2402 02:40:49,560 --> 02:40:53,160 probably shouldn't write on the baby's with you too big to sign 2403 02:40:53,160 --> 02:40:55,110 my baby? Well, no, I mean, 2404 02:40:55,619 --> 02:41:06,719 you know? This is so telling. So you knew all this stuff, okay? I 2405 02:41:06,719 --> 02:41:12,239 didn't know this. I know Will Smith from then. We both 2406 02:41:12,239 --> 02:41:18,449 performed while he performed. I emceed at the launch of head 2407 02:41:18,479 --> 02:41:23,699 Sonic the Hedgehog the launch of the video game and hung out. You 2408 02:41:23,699 --> 02:41:26,999 know, kind of like backstage hanging out is nice, new, really 2409 02:41:27,029 --> 02:41:30,719 nice guy really thankful for where he was and everything. And 2410 02:41:30,719 --> 02:41:35,129 that was indeed around 86. And I think he had something to do. I 2411 02:41:35,129 --> 02:41:36,659 think he might have had something to do with that with 2412 02:41:36,659 --> 02:41:39,449 the soundtrack to the to the game or something. It doesn't 2413 02:41:39,449 --> 02:41:45,959 matter. But the fact that he went completely that he 2414 02:41:45,959 --> 02:41:51,569 completely blew all the money. Yeah, yeah, this is the pattern. 2415 02:41:53,700 --> 02:41:57,780 And is it the pattern to leverage an asset? Because it's 2416 02:41:57,780 --> 02:42:02,370 too far is far too common. happening that they get 2417 02:42:02,700 --> 02:42:06,330 celebrities? Well, it's a tax trouble. They make and leverage 2418 02:42:06,330 --> 02:42:06,630 you. Well. 2419 02:42:07,110 --> 02:42:09,510 Let me he said something else. That's important to understand. 2420 02:42:09,600 --> 02:42:12,660 Go ahead, because I've been a little bit in this trap. But so 2421 02:42:12,960 --> 02:42:18,330 being what he says being a celebrity and broke sucks, being 2422 02:42:18,330 --> 02:42:23,670 a celebrity and making, not celebrity money sucks. But that 2423 02:42:23,670 --> 02:42:30,300 was MTV for me, MTV. I'll tell you. I'm not complaining. I made 2424 02:42:30,300 --> 02:42:35,850 my first year $150,000 Working at MTV. The second year 175. I 2425 02:42:35,850 --> 02:42:39,420 never made more from MTV than that. Now. Other things I did. I 2426 02:42:39,420 --> 02:42:44,160 did. Okay. But that was the MTV money. So when you're Adam curry 2427 02:42:44,160 --> 02:42:47,580 leather jacket, big hair and MTV is flying you coach down to 2428 02:42:47,580 --> 02:42:52,770 spring break. You got to understand this weird. So what 2429 02:42:52,800 --> 02:42:56,460 what what this is what this is why silly because it goes back 2430 02:42:56,460 --> 02:42:59,340 to what we said earlier, there's certain things expected from 2431 02:42:59,340 --> 02:43:05,220 celebrities. It's a facade. It's a, it's, it's the magic of being 2432 02:43:05,220 --> 02:43:10,680 a celebrities that you fly. I'm someone offered for that. Now, 2433 02:43:11,190 --> 02:43:14,400 I'm luckily I'm no longer in mainstream. So I can be really 2434 02:43:14,400 --> 02:43:17,850 honest. And everybody knows, you know, I make my money from the 2435 02:43:17,880 --> 02:43:21,000 value for value. And that's sometimes good. Sometimes not. 2436 02:43:22,170 --> 02:43:25,890 But if we were flying to South Carolina, we had, you know, take 2437 02:43:25,890 --> 02:43:29,910 two planes to get there from from Texas. And someone kindly 2438 02:43:29,910 --> 02:43:33,330 sent me a note and said, hey, you know if, if you get stuck 2439 02:43:33,390 --> 02:43:37,740 in, you know, Atlanta, if you're going through Atlanta, I'm about 2440 02:43:37,740 --> 02:43:40,140 an hour away. And I you know, I could drive you the rest of the 2441 02:43:40,140 --> 02:43:46,890 way. But the sentence read if you're flying commercial. You 2442 02:43:46,890 --> 02:43:50,940 see people think that you know, Adam has private jet money. 2443 02:43:51,480 --> 02:43:54,780 Yeah, you don't? Yeah, you know, you hop off the PJ 2444 02:43:54,810 --> 02:44:01,590 Exactly. Chris style baby Chris. 2445 02:44:02,550 --> 02:44:05,520 Just didn't know that. You still are a high value man making 2446 02:44:05,520 --> 02:44:09,990 $100,000 a year. So we're saying even if you were MTV, so no 2447 02:44:09,990 --> 02:44:13,470 worries there. But they expect you to get all pop into Dawn 2448 02:44:13,470 --> 02:44:18,570 popping the champagne? Yeah. The $100 bills at the airport flight 2449 02:44:18,570 --> 02:44:20,550 attendant. Well, that's the thing, 2450 02:44:20,580 --> 02:44:23,250 but it's a trap. It's a trap. And when you're young and 2451 02:44:23,250 --> 02:44:25,800 impressionable and this and there's no you don't get a 2452 02:44:25,800 --> 02:44:28,380 manual like hey, you're on TV. You're famous. Here's here's 2453 02:44:28,380 --> 02:44:31,530 your ham guide. You don't get that you might have no I was 2454 02:44:31,530 --> 02:44:35,220 very lucky. My first wife. And she was very smart. But she she 2455 02:44:35,220 --> 02:44:37,680 would do two things. She would say you're not going out to 2456 02:44:37,680 --> 02:44:40,500 party because they're all losers and it only ends in tears. And I 2457 02:44:40,500 --> 02:44:43,170 think that she's right about that. But she would also say 2458 02:44:43,590 --> 02:44:47,670 you're going to pay the extra half to fly first class. You 2459 02:44:47,670 --> 02:44:52,470 can't fly coach Adam curry the celebrity. So I literally you 2460 02:44:52,470 --> 02:44:55,770 can't I literally would take money out of my own pocket to go 2461 02:44:55,800 --> 02:44:57,180 do work for MTV. 2462 02:44:58,740 --> 02:45:02,880 And you know what? And the reality world and reality TV 2463 02:45:02,880 --> 02:45:06,690 world we live in now. This is the peer pressure and this is 2464 02:45:06,690 --> 02:45:10,800 why everybody just check boxes this is why all the doctor says 2465 02:45:10,800 --> 02:45:15,270 a quick aside all the doctors that went along with the Cuf the 2466 02:45:15,270 --> 02:45:18,900 same thing I got a lifestyle to maintain you're saying wish you 2467 02:45:18,900 --> 02:45:21,510 would want me to take a stand? I don't think so. 2468 02:45:21,540 --> 02:45:24,960 Except my friend mo facts didn't do that. 2469 02:45:25,470 --> 02:45:28,200 Because you got to be able to live what you sell. Yeah, but 2470 02:45:28,200 --> 02:45:30,990 that's the thing like real estate agents is another one. 2471 02:45:31,320 --> 02:45:35,640 You can't pull up to the exact house trying to sell a car when 2472 02:45:35,640 --> 02:45:40,500 you're trying to sell a house in an instant and I 89 commit 98 2473 02:45:40,500 --> 02:45:43,680 Camry happy you gotta have a nice 2474 02:45:44,460 --> 02:45:47,010 I was wondering what car you'd come up with? 2475 02:45:47,790 --> 02:45:50,130 I mean Yeah, cuz you gotta have a certain you see it all the 2476 02:45:50,130 --> 02:45:53,580 time on the road and the realtor license plates and a little bit 2477 02:45:53,580 --> 02:45:57,000 of magnetic on the door it's because you had to look the call 2478 02:45:57,000 --> 02:45:59,820 and look the part yep you know you have to look the part and 2479 02:45:59,820 --> 02:46:03,600 this is why I said when he said that bread and butter thing yeah 2480 02:46:05,580 --> 02:46:08,520 I know what bread and butter mean podcasting is my bread and 2481 02:46:08,520 --> 02:46:12,960 butter right now auxilary things going on you're saying that you 2482 02:46:12,960 --> 02:46:17,730 know the same kind of food they're saying but when you say 2483 02:46:17,730 --> 02:46:21,870 that, that that stood out to me because I'm like oh yeah, this 2484 02:46:21,870 --> 02:46:25,080 is this is celebrity like you got it and you really got to go 2485 02:46:25,080 --> 02:46:29,490 harder while you're down Yeah, because you can't you can't give 2486 02:46:29,520 --> 02:46:36,870 me understand inkling of a fall off oh no you can't once you 2487 02:46:36,870 --> 02:46:42,750 fall off yep. And maybe now you just use Get me another 2488 02:46:42,750 --> 02:46:46,890 conspiracy analyze maybe this will be the excuse for the fall 2489 02:46:46,890 --> 02:46:52,290 off you know a they took they took anyone let me add no movies 2490 02:46:52,320 --> 02:46:56,040 he was saying and then you will be a heroic figure to bounce 2491 02:46:56,040 --> 02:46:56,340 back. 2492 02:46:56,520 --> 02:47:00,900 Ooh, well, that's that's another America loves a great comeback. 2493 02:47:01,470 --> 02:47:03,300 We do we love come back. 2494 02:47:04,350 --> 02:47:07,920 When we no doubt about it when we'll come back. Because he's 2495 02:47:07,920 --> 02:47:10,800 coming back. Oh, yeah. Now will he come back like the black 2496 02:47:10,800 --> 02:47:14,520 mamba and Kobe after you're saying after the rape charge and 2497 02:47:14,520 --> 02:47:18,120 get some tax? Maybe a face tat? You know? sanbi True. True. Will 2498 02:47:18,120 --> 02:47:22,890 Smith. You're saying like, you know, you know that. I can see 2499 02:47:22,890 --> 02:47:26,580 him playing the character he plays into DC comics like him 2500 02:47:26,580 --> 02:47:31,830 taking on that persona, you know, of the bad boy. Um, but 2501 02:47:31,980 --> 02:47:33,960 there's, there's gonna be a second, there's gonna be a 2502 02:47:33,960 --> 02:47:35,250 second act to this chill. 2503 02:47:35,280 --> 02:47:38,610 Oh, I'm with you on that. And we will and we'll be around for 2504 02:47:38,610 --> 02:47:39,000 too. 2505 02:47:39,660 --> 02:47:43,260 Well, it might be a third. Because I think where I'm going 2506 02:47:43,260 --> 02:47:49,350 with this is he had hit rock bottom right? Yeah. He has the 2507 02:47:49,350 --> 02:47:53,130 appeal, but doesn't have the money. So he's floating around 2508 02:47:53,130 --> 02:47:56,520 Hollywood. And they're like, oh, okay, you're down on your luck. 2509 02:47:56,520 --> 02:48:02,010 Ha. We can basically use you any way we want to we know how will 2510 02:48:02,310 --> 02:48:06,000 we know what we know. We will first act like big act and roll 2511 02:48:06,000 --> 02:48:09,450 was just outside of us. And first Prince. That was when he 2512 02:48:09,450 --> 02:48:11,910 played had to play that gay role. And I had people who were 2513 02:48:11,910 --> 02:48:15,720 saying look at him Sadat, because that was like a in six 2514 02:48:15,720 --> 02:48:20,850 degrees of separation. That was very, that was very, for the 2515 02:48:20,850 --> 02:48:24,600 time to play that role that was very 2516 02:48:27,000 --> 02:48:29,100 pushing the boundary polarizing, maybe? 2517 02:48:29,760 --> 02:48:31,860 Well, not even that it's shipped. I'll say that it 2518 02:48:31,860 --> 02:48:37,500 shifted the Overton Window, because even Dimmesdale, he got 2519 02:48:37,500 --> 02:48:39,750 into saying, like people like, I'm not sure about you in 2520 02:48:39,750 --> 02:48:44,310 Philadelphia, you know, with with the gay guy. Right, right. 2521 02:48:44,310 --> 02:48:48,750 So for a young black rapper, to play that role doubt shifted the 2522 02:48:48,750 --> 02:48:52,170 whole Overton window, and we've kind of been that figure to 2523 02:48:52,170 --> 02:48:58,140 shift the, you know, to open marriage to feral kids to, you 2524 02:48:58,140 --> 02:49:01,920 know, saying, like, he's been this guy to push these 2525 02:49:01,920 --> 02:49:04,500 boundaries. And I'm just wondering, is this the same 2526 02:49:04,500 --> 02:49:09,570 case? So, let's get back to the storytime of Will Smith. Part 2527 02:49:09,570 --> 02:49:09,840 two. 2528 02:49:10,500 --> 02:49:14,850 I was like, laying around. And my girlfriend was like, 2529 02:49:15,120 --> 02:49:18,060 do we not doing this? Like, you're not just gonna be laying 2530 02:49:18,060 --> 02:49:20,010 around this house all day. You go and go do something. 2531 02:49:20,250 --> 02:49:23,610 I was like, What? What am I supposed to do? Go where people 2532 02:49:23,640 --> 02:49:25,110 is, is doing it, 2533 02:49:25,140 --> 02:49:26,790 where people doing it. 2534 02:49:27,000 --> 02:49:28,650 Go to the Arsenio Hall Show. 2535 02:49:28,680 --> 02:49:35,340 Just go stand around at Arsenio Hall Show. Yes, that's stupid. I 2536 02:49:35,340 --> 02:49:40,290 wanted Arsenio Hall Show. And I met a dude named Benny Medina 2537 02:49:40,290 --> 02:49:42,900 and Benny Medina. Oh no real life Benny 2538 02:49:42,900 --> 02:49:43,860 Medina? 2539 02:49:45,540 --> 02:49:48,270 No, you will not know you will know him. 2540 02:49:49,080 --> 02:49:53,910 Oh my goodness. Benny Medina is one of the scammy his producers 2541 02:49:53,940 --> 02:49:55,200 ever in Hollywood. 2542 02:49:55,800 --> 02:49:57,060 I'm so happy to hear that. 2543 02:49:58,560 --> 02:50:04,020 Fannie Mae Deena I hear that name like Oh no, not Benny. You 2544 02:50:04,020 --> 02:50:05,220 don't know their story? 2545 02:50:05,340 --> 02:50:07,080 I do not I don't think so. 2546 02:50:08,400 --> 02:50:13,110 I I cherish the fact that I got I got one over on you in 2547 02:50:13,110 --> 02:50:18,360 Hollywood, you're the Hollywood guy. So no you know name so 2548 02:50:18,570 --> 02:50:22,440 please continue to clip and you can tell me your opinion. Medina 2549 02:50:24,000 --> 02:50:26,220 will quote unquote bumped into each other. 2550 02:50:26,550 --> 02:50:30,960 And I met a dude named Benny Medina and Benny Medina is the 2551 02:50:31,140 --> 02:50:34,080 real life Fresh Prince of Bel Air except he actually went from 2552 02:50:34,080 --> 02:50:37,860 the wives to Beverly Hills, same basic concept way shorter 2553 02:50:37,860 --> 02:50:40,620 distance now me Benny and he pitches me the idea for this 2554 02:50:40,620 --> 02:50:44,190 show. And I'm like, I'm not an actor. I'm like, Cool. And he 2555 02:50:44,190 --> 02:50:46,620 said, Hey, you know, I want you to meet Quincy Jones. Quincy 2556 02:50:46,620 --> 02:50:51,990 Jones is producing stuff by myself at Quincies. And his 2557 02:50:52,050 --> 02:50:55,650 actors and artists and celebrities and politicians like 2558 02:50:55,680 --> 02:50:59,250 everybody that cleanses out. It's like The Wiz without the 2559 02:50:59,250 --> 02:51:03,720 costume. So Benny walks me in and introduce me to Quincy, hey, 2560 02:51:03,720 --> 02:51:06,480 Q What's up, man? He's like, Hey, man, you know, I saw your 2561 02:51:06,480 --> 02:51:09,360 music videos. I love I love what you're doing. I love what you're 2562 02:51:09,360 --> 02:51:12,240 doing. Tell me rap name again. They call me The Fresh Prince. 2563 02:51:12,270 --> 02:51:14,520 Hi, good. That's what we're gonna call the show. And he 2564 02:51:14,520 --> 02:51:19,860 handed me a screenplay for a failed Maurice de pilot. Like I 2565 02:51:19,860 --> 02:51:23,340 don't have the time. So I need you to do this. I need you to 2566 02:51:23,340 --> 02:51:26,040 take few minutes, take 10 minutes, study the script. And 2567 02:51:26,040 --> 02:51:28,200 I'm gonna clear all this stuff out the living room, and we 2568 02:51:28,200 --> 02:51:30,630 don't have everybody sit down in the living room. We don't do an 2569 02:51:30,630 --> 02:51:31,140 audition. 2570 02:51:33,150 --> 02:51:34,740 Oh, 2571 02:51:36,000 --> 02:51:37,470 just having to bump into him. 2572 02:51:37,470 --> 02:51:42,690 I might have forgot I forgot all about Benny Medina. Yeah, 2573 02:51:42,690 --> 02:51:45,330 there's nothing but there's nothing but weird stories about 2574 02:51:45,330 --> 02:51:45,690 him. 2575 02:51:47,100 --> 02:51:50,130 It sounds like you correct me if Martin because I've never been 2576 02:51:50,130 --> 02:51:53,730 to Hollywood and I never planned to go to Hollyweird. Oh, but 2577 02:51:53,730 --> 02:51:57,120 it's not like the Arsenio Hall Show. People would just kind of 2578 02:51:57,120 --> 02:52:01,860 like floating around looking to be discovered or you know, 2579 02:52:01,860 --> 02:52:03,870 saying this is pre internet folks. You gotta remember that 2580 02:52:04,020 --> 02:52:06,510 incident for the younger listeners is no happiness, no 2581 02:52:06,510 --> 02:52:08,820 social media. So you got to get out there like his girlfriend 2582 02:52:08,820 --> 02:52:11,640 told him. You got to get to where the celebrities are. And 2583 02:52:11,640 --> 02:52:15,690 it seems like to me, the Arsenio Hall Show was just kind of like, 2584 02:52:16,170 --> 02:52:18,480 hey, come down, you might get home. The reason why I 2585 02:52:18,480 --> 02:52:22,440 remembered is it was a Martin episode where Tommy Davidson 2586 02:52:22,440 --> 02:52:31,560 played. People don't kill me for Lou levar LaVale LaVale Arsenio 2587 02:52:31,560 --> 02:52:34,440 Hall type of character, and it was like, just come on out. It 2588 02:52:34,440 --> 02:52:38,160 was saying and we'll get you on. Is that how these things work? 2589 02:52:38,160 --> 02:52:38,610 Well, 2590 02:52:38,640 --> 02:52:42,870 okay, so Benny Medina are, let's just say Arsenio Hall, Arsenio 2591 02:52:42,870 --> 02:52:51,840 Hall. This is only because I think that this is where you're 2592 02:52:51,840 --> 02:52:55,890 going. Arsenio Hall definitely has some gay rumors swirling 2593 02:52:55,890 --> 02:52:58,950 around him, which would fit in with Benny Medina, which would 2594 02:52:58,950 --> 02:53:02,550 fit in with Eddie Murphy, which would fit in a lot with a lot of 2595 02:53:02,550 --> 02:53:08,010 black men, who I believe are on the down low in Hollywood and 2596 02:53:08,010 --> 02:53:11,250 music because it's just unacceptable for the for the 2597 02:53:11,250 --> 02:53:12,630 quote unquote community. 2598 02:53:13,050 --> 02:53:13,830 Was, 2599 02:53:14,910 --> 02:53:18,900 was, was was a was I'm sorry, it was 2600 02:53:19,950 --> 02:53:24,270 Will Smith shifted that Overton window? Because he was writing a 2601 02:53:24,270 --> 02:53:26,430 lot of weird stuff. And everybody was kind of looking 2602 02:53:26,430 --> 02:53:28,620 the other way about like, oh, let's just we'll be and we'll, 2603 02:53:28,920 --> 02:53:32,670 let's use what you know, just just to putting it out there. So 2604 02:53:32,820 --> 02:53:37,080 and this has incredible state or had incredible stigma amongst 2605 02:53:37,110 --> 02:53:39,390 black black male Americans. No. 2606 02:53:40,380 --> 02:53:44,070 Yeah. That's it. Nobody, everybody, nobody, nobody really 2607 02:53:44,070 --> 02:53:47,400 talks about that movie six degrees of separation. But our 2608 02:53:47,400 --> 02:53:50,550 That was a weird movie. And that was another weird movie. Even 2609 02:53:50,550 --> 02:53:53,580 people talked about last was called Made in America. And it 2610 02:53:53,580 --> 02:53:59,430 was about with Goldberg. She played a black woman that was 2611 02:53:59,490 --> 02:54:03,180 impregnated by Ted Danson through artificial insemination. 2612 02:54:03,180 --> 02:54:05,880 And she had a test tube baby right and we will smith helped 2613 02:54:05,880 --> 02:54:08,730 her daughter find out who her real dad was. It was like I say 2614 02:54:08,730 --> 02:54:13,950 a lot of foreshadow. It means earlier movies. And we'll was 2615 02:54:14,040 --> 02:54:18,750 dead center of it. So how do you just show up my Yeah, that's 2616 02:54:18,750 --> 02:54:20,820 what we're gonna call the show. You're gonna have a 10 minute 2617 02:54:22,020 --> 02:54:24,510 audition and we'll give you a show on NBC. 2618 02:54:24,630 --> 02:54:27,330 And only took him five minutes to audition. Hey, now, 2619 02:54:27,720 --> 02:54:31,830 rise, show storytime. 3pm movers 2620 02:54:31,920 --> 02:54:35,190 that could reset his furniture. I was like, this dude is real. 2621 02:54:35,340 --> 02:54:38,340 To go. Buy. Come on. Come on. Come on. I was at HQ. Hold up, 2622 02:54:38,340 --> 02:54:42,930 man. Hold up. I'm not ready to do no audition. He's a Oh, hi. 2623 02:54:42,990 --> 02:54:45,780 All right. What would you need? Tell me what you need. Just set 2624 02:54:45,780 --> 02:54:48,240 the meeting for a week and I could do it. He said, Yeah. You 2625 02:54:48,240 --> 02:54:51,090 know, Brandon Tartikoff. The head of NBC is out there. I'll 2626 02:54:51,090 --> 02:54:53,280 get him scheduled for next week. And then you know what's gonna 2627 02:54:53,280 --> 02:54:55,770 happen? Something's gonna come up. And and he's wanting to 2628 02:54:55,770 --> 02:54:59,100 reschedule? Oh, yeah. So three, so three weeks from now can we 2629 02:54:59,100 --> 02:55:01,350 can do it three weeks from now. So yeah, three weeks from now be 2630 02:55:01,350 --> 02:55:04,680 good. Or you could take 10 minutes right now. And you can 2631 02:55:04,680 --> 02:55:13,020 change your life forever. Yes, give me 10 minutes. I say yes. 2632 02:55:13,140 --> 02:55:16,500 And I let it rip and I got to the end and everybody's clapping 2633 02:55:16,500 --> 02:55:20,070 because he looks at Brandon Tartikoff the head of NBC. Did 2634 02:55:20,070 --> 02:55:22,860 you like it? And Brandon said, yeah, yeah, like, because he 2635 02:55:22,860 --> 02:55:26,190 says, No. Did you like it? When you say yeah, like, he's like, 2636 02:55:26,190 --> 02:55:29,220 good. You're his lawyer brought me up something right now. 2637 02:55:30,720 --> 02:55:33,870 What's the order and other people lawyers around his 2638 02:55:33,870 --> 02:55:37,980 lawyer? Because he turned to me and he was like, hey, well, you 2639 02:55:37,980 --> 02:55:41,190 got a lawyer to play. See, I'm broke. If I had a lawyer taking 2640 02:55:41,190 --> 02:55:45,180 5% He owed me money right now. I anytime she was assistant, he 2641 02:55:45,180 --> 02:55:46,470 was like, get with a lawyer. 2642 02:55:47,700 --> 02:55:48,720 Quincy had been drinking. 2643 02:55:54,330 --> 02:55:55,410 I go down, huh? 2644 02:55:55,500 --> 02:56:00,210 Well, I've sat with Quincy for an hour. 2645 02:56:01,950 --> 02:56:03,030 already told you the story. 2646 02:56:04,110 --> 02:56:06,420 You said you had interaction with him, but you never went 2647 02:56:06,420 --> 02:56:11,520 into details? Oh, I was curious about what will come? Well, I 2648 02:56:11,520 --> 02:56:12,870 know you're gonna realize. 2649 02:56:15,360 --> 02:56:21,120 No, no. I'd actually I'd love to talk to Quincy again. Because he 2650 02:56:21,120 --> 02:56:23,730 has hearing aids. I think he has the same kind of mind. I just 2651 02:56:23,730 --> 02:56:25,980 want to know about his settings. You know, I'd like to share 2652 02:56:26,160 --> 02:56:29,820 because he didn't I see him in the studio, listening to a track 2653 02:56:30,120 --> 02:56:32,820 with a hearing aid and just wondering how he how he gets 2654 02:56:32,820 --> 02:56:37,890 anyway. Years ago, I was doing a Sunday night live coast to coast 2655 02:56:37,890 --> 02:56:41,700 radio show called headline USA and we'd have a guest on and the 2656 02:56:41,700 --> 02:56:45,510 whole hour in this case was Quincy he was in studio. It was 2657 02:56:45,510 --> 02:56:52,710 a it was a cool ass. Studio, big room, just the two of us at a 2658 02:56:52,710 --> 02:56:57,600 small table, two mics to headphones, very dim lighting. 2659 02:56:57,870 --> 02:57:03,450 And he came in and he had a bottle of Latour show total. 2660 02:57:03,750 --> 02:57:09,780 That is 1500 bucks a bottle is what that is. And he said Let's 2661 02:57:09,780 --> 02:57:14,580 drink. Let's have a good time. And so I later now I had a great 2662 02:57:14,580 --> 02:57:20,280 time. And I remember starting off by saying Quincy Mr. Jones, 2663 02:57:20,310 --> 02:57:24,570 we said call me Q view have produced everyone from Lena 2664 02:57:24,570 --> 02:57:27,630 Horne, to Fresh Prince to Fresh Prince of Bel Air to the TV 2665 02:57:27,630 --> 02:57:30,870 show. And that ends of that conference. But we got so drunk 2666 02:57:30,930 --> 02:57:36,090 on this. This wine is really some awesome stuff. And later, I 2667 02:57:36,090 --> 02:57:40,800 heard that Quincy had a drinking problem. I felt kind of bad that 2668 02:57:40,800 --> 02:57:46,140 I had kind of enabled him. And it just did put it in a little 2669 02:57:46,140 --> 02:57:50,310 bit of different light. So when I hear Will Smith at the end say 2670 02:57:50,310 --> 02:57:54,510 Quincy had been drinking. I think he had a serious drinking 2671 02:57:54,510 --> 02:57:58,020 problem. Like like real serious 2672 02:57:59,220 --> 02:58:03,120 right now he's still whatever you doing now, 2673 02:58:03,869 --> 02:58:05,879 he didn't do 22 girlfriends. 2674 02:58:06,960 --> 02:58:12,120 Yeah, exactly. So to do anything that's that's just a little bit 2675 02:58:12,120 --> 02:58:16,680 of extra info. But now I think he's I think he's he's a non 2676 02:58:16,680 --> 02:58:21,480 drinking alcoholic now I think I think he's out as as as being on 2677 02:58:21,480 --> 02:58:21,990 the wagon, 2678 02:58:23,130 --> 02:58:27,240 though. But the funny thing is the way this plays out is the 2679 02:58:28,230 --> 02:58:33,570 Hollyweird one on one textbook of how these Hollywood parties 2680 02:58:33,570 --> 02:58:33,990 go 2681 02:58:35,430 --> 02:58:38,760 completely the way it is and for him to be yelling in the music 2682 02:58:38,760 --> 02:58:42,360 meetings with Brandon tartan car Tartikoff was NBC Universal 2683 02:58:42,870 --> 02:58:47,850 exactly but the end he's dead now I think but the the music 2684 02:58:47,850 --> 02:58:51,300 business so we're Quincy came from very I mean, that's exactly 2685 02:58:51,300 --> 02:58:55,350 it. It's the first thing is a lawyer deal. But it's always 2686 02:58:55,380 --> 02:58:59,850 lawyers do that. Once you've got someone right away, they and 2687 02:58:59,850 --> 02:59:02,820 they draft the contracts in the meeting. No one gets to think 2688 02:59:02,820 --> 02:59:05,100 about it for a second. You stay in this room. We'll draft 2689 02:59:05,100 --> 02:59:08,100 something. we'll finalize later. Don't worry, everything will be 2690 02:59:08,100 --> 02:59:10,740 fine. Which of course never is. Quincy Jones 2691 02:59:11,310 --> 02:59:12,630 Suge Knight type of stuff. 2692 02:59:15,090 --> 02:59:18,060 Right. That's the business. That's the business. That's the 2693 02:59:18,060 --> 02:59:19,560 business. So I 2694 02:59:19,560 --> 02:59:22,230 think we started three or four now. Yep. All right for 2695 02:59:22,380 --> 02:59:25,500 Quincy, I've been drinking. You're not it's probably obvious 2696 02:59:25,530 --> 02:59:28,620 from your story. But you have been tasting wet his beak a 2697 02:59:28,620 --> 02:59:33,090 little bit that night. So the lawyers go out in the limo, and 2698 02:59:33,090 --> 02:59:37,140 they're drawing up the first deal for the Fresh Prince of Bel 2699 02:59:37,140 --> 02:59:40,350 Air. Quincy is like popping up at the window no brows 2700 02:59:40,350 --> 02:59:45,060 is doing. No gratis is doing right now did he make thriller 2701 02:59:45,060 --> 02:59:45,600 like this? 2702 02:59:47,670 --> 02:59:51,060 So we got the lawyers draw up something. Ken hertz looked it 2703 02:59:51,060 --> 02:59:56,070 over for me, Brandon Tartikoff. And we took a picture and we 2704 02:59:56,100 --> 03:00:00,480 signed the basic deal for the Fresh Prince and Three months 2705 03:00:00,480 --> 03:00:04,500 later, we were shooting the pilot. And that's the story of 2706 03:00:04,500 --> 03:00:10,110 how I became the Prince of Bel Air. So the moral of the story 2707 03:00:10,110 --> 03:00:15,420 is always say yes. And I guess, listen to your girlfriend. 2708 03:00:16,529 --> 03:00:19,679 And always have your own lawyer who you trust. 2709 03:00:20,250 --> 03:00:23,580 Always say yes and always to your girlfriend. Hmm. Okay. 2710 03:00:24,180 --> 03:00:25,530 That's the moral of the story. 2711 03:00:25,560 --> 03:00:30,060 All right. Thanks, brother. That's the moral of my story. 2712 03:00:31,470 --> 03:00:33,990 This is why we're very familiar because you didn't get me an old 2713 03:00:33,990 --> 03:00:34,500 man most. 2714 03:00:37,770 --> 03:00:41,610 Didn't not sign deals in limos, always. Call me first Moe never 2715 03:00:41,610 --> 03:00:45,480 let that happen. But when you do it, you get new money. 2716 03:00:45,510 --> 03:00:47,910 I like brand new money. I just I don't want any money around me. 2717 03:00:47,910 --> 03:00:53,130 It's not I don't want to have a new one than a brand than an old 2718 03:00:53,130 --> 03:00:56,610 20 That's kind of dumb. But there's something about new 2719 03:00:56,610 --> 03:01:01,740 money that excites you. You like $100 bills. owe money to Oh, the 2720 03:01:02,640 --> 03:01:05,730 most beautiful thing on earth is $100 bill I haven't seen a woman 2721 03:01:05,730 --> 03:01:09,660 is good looking at $100 Bill $100 bills excites you? 2722 03:01:12,600 --> 03:01:15,750 Well, the new money of the day is Bitcoin and we accept it, we 2723 03:01:15,750 --> 03:01:18,810 accept it through the value for value system, which is built 2724 03:01:18,810 --> 03:01:23,040 right into podcasting 2.0. And I should say, if you're listening 2725 03:01:23,040 --> 03:01:28,290 to this on Apple, or Spotify, or you're clearly outdated, you 2726 03:01:28,290 --> 03:01:32,880 need to get a brand new podcast app. This show has transcripts 2727 03:01:32,880 --> 03:01:35,640 you can search you can go back into we have an entire archive 2728 03:01:35,640 --> 03:01:38,970 now you can go and find stuff find what episode it was click 2729 03:01:38,970 --> 03:01:41,880 click click you get exactly that clip or that that thing we were 2730 03:01:41,880 --> 03:01:45,420 talking about? It has chapters with images so you can quickly 2731 03:01:45,420 --> 03:01:48,480 go back and forth you can share stuff and you can support the 2732 03:01:48,480 --> 03:01:52,770 show directly right from the app with boosts which is kind of 2733 03:01:52,770 --> 03:01:56,490 like a YouTube super chat you can add a message to it and a 2734 03:01:56,490 --> 03:01:58,680 lot of people boosting some people you don't have to add a 2735 03:01:58,680 --> 03:02:01,170 message and many people do so I'm going to read a couple of 2736 03:02:01,170 --> 03:02:04,380 those for you right now we kick it off with my partner in crime 2737 03:02:04,380 --> 03:02:09,000 over there podcasting 2.0 Dave Jones who comes in with 150,000 2738 03:02:09,000 --> 03:02:15,300 Satoshis which is a nice little donation amount for for a for a 2739 03:02:15,300 --> 03:02:19,830 booster gram and he has a question and this question if he 2740 03:02:19,830 --> 03:02:22,980 actually asked me what you would think of this I said man, you 2741 03:02:22,980 --> 03:02:26,700 got to ask me this question. Because someone we know use this 2742 03:02:26,700 --> 03:02:32,910 term on social media in a general conversation and he 2743 03:02:32,910 --> 03:02:36,570 wants to know your take I'll read verbatim mo What is your 2744 03:02:36,570 --> 03:02:40,320 use your take on the use of the term blacks in general 2745 03:02:40,320 --> 03:02:44,010 conversation? It seems to be a term that is fine almost all the 2746 03:02:44,010 --> 03:02:47,130 time until some linguistic ammunition is needed then it's 2747 03:02:47,130 --> 03:02:49,650 suddenly a sign that someone has a closet racist 2748 03:02:51,150 --> 03:02:53,130 your thoughts I don't 2749 03:02:53,130 --> 03:02:59,940 see a problem with blacks the blacks can we use it juggling 2750 03:02:59,940 --> 03:03:08,340 bed gays? Yeah, that to to address this media credit 2751 03:03:08,340 --> 03:03:12,540 community? Or our way of thinking that's why I think you 2752 03:03:12,540 --> 03:03:14,670 come in a problem but blacks I mean, like they always talk to 2753 03:03:14,670 --> 03:03:17,490 black voters. The Hispanic voters I don't see any problem 2754 03:03:17,490 --> 03:03:20,070 with it. Well, I'm so that's 2755 03:03:20,070 --> 03:03:22,890 I think that's very interesting what you said so the blacks I 2756 03:03:22,890 --> 03:03:26,130 get it because that you know, and we say that as a joke, and 2757 03:03:26,460 --> 03:03:30,810 some some people we know say it because they just are are old. 2758 03:03:32,280 --> 03:03:36,450 But we know that it's not meant out of out of racism, but saying 2759 03:03:37,350 --> 03:03:42,450 black Americans, black voters, black drivers, black, whatever 2760 03:03:42,450 --> 03:03:47,190 it is. That's okay. But but we have a specific instance where 2761 03:03:47,220 --> 03:03:53,730 blacks, plural blacks, that was deemed incredibly racist as 2762 03:03:53,730 --> 03:03:56,370 someone a friend of ours got D platformed. over it. 2763 03:03:59,100 --> 03:04:02,730 Well, I mean, kinda got kicked off Instagram for saying coon 2764 03:04:03,600 --> 03:04:08,820 man, so I mean, deep platforming is the wild wild west. I don't 2765 03:04:08,820 --> 03:04:14,370 know what guidelines they use for that but so I had to see the 2766 03:04:14,370 --> 03:04:18,840 whole statement but the quote quote unquote, blacks, I mean, 2767 03:04:18,870 --> 03:04:21,570 what's there was one that Hispanics or gays, thank you and 2768 03:04:21,570 --> 03:04:26,220 when you put it that that community, our way of thinking, 2769 03:04:26,250 --> 03:04:27,300 that's the way I see it. 2770 03:04:27,480 --> 03:04:31,170 Okay, thank you that answers it. And if anyone else has 2771 03:04:31,170 --> 03:04:35,640 questions, please be like Dave, send us 150,000 SATs we will 2772 03:04:35,640 --> 03:04:42,570 answer. Chad Ferro 33,333 Dave Ackerman with 10,000 value for 2773 03:04:42,570 --> 03:04:44,820 value. That was for episode 80. He does that a lot. We 2774 03:04:44,820 --> 03:04:49,650 appreciate it. 3690 from Cass peatland aroma ducks from letter 2775 03:04:49,650 --> 03:04:54,210 6173 and says mo as an inspiration should be celebrated 2776 03:04:54,210 --> 03:04:58,380 for the unique individual he is well I think we do and then to 2777 03:04:58,380 --> 03:05:04,290 boost from clewd All together over 30,000 SATs. And here is 2778 03:05:04,290 --> 03:05:07,020 the message hey, Mo and Adam, I made a book club website for 2779 03:05:07,020 --> 03:05:10,380 you, oh, this would probably be a separate page on an already 2780 03:05:10,380 --> 03:05:13,500 existing mo facts.com. But couldn't wait. So I whipped this 2781 03:05:13,500 --> 03:05:16,500 up with two recommendations that I've heard and I'm willing to 2782 03:05:16,500 --> 03:05:21,750 add plenty more the website can be found at on a second. And get 2783 03:05:21,750 --> 03:05:23,070 this here. I haven't actually looked at this 2784 03:05:23,070 --> 03:05:32,310 website@mfbc.card.co That's not easy to remember. Hold on. So 2785 03:05:32,310 --> 03:05:34,950 what he's suggesting is maybe we put this as a part of the 2786 03:05:34,950 --> 03:05:37,530 regular website and let me see what this looks like. First take 2787 03:05:37,530 --> 03:05:37,590 a 2788 03:05:37,590 --> 03:05:40,800 look. Just send me the link and yeah, we'll see. I guess the 2789 03:05:40,830 --> 03:05:44,640 Yeah, cuz like a lot of stuff we reference. I'm sure people like 2790 03:05:44,640 --> 03:05:47,400 what do you say to him that they can go and catch up on and then 2791 03:05:47,610 --> 03:05:50,640 a lot of times I you mentioned books were here books mentioned 2792 03:05:50,640 --> 03:05:53,430 in clips. It'd be a good place to track those. 2793 03:05:53,670 --> 03:05:56,430 Yeah, so this is Oh, it's cool. It's a nice little page the MO 2794 03:05:56,430 --> 03:05:59,190 facts book club all the recommended books Remo and the 2795 03:05:59,190 --> 03:06:02,220 facts fam in one place download links will be provided were 2796 03:06:02,220 --> 03:06:05,130 available recommendations, blah, blah, blah. There's got war 2797 03:06:05,130 --> 03:06:09,450 against the week, Edwin black up there and the autobiography of 2798 03:06:09,450 --> 03:06:11,910 Malcolm X as told by Alex Haley. 2799 03:06:14,580 --> 03:06:17,190 Those are good to skin starters. We gotta get some saving habits 2800 03:06:17,190 --> 03:06:17,580 up there. 2801 03:06:17,610 --> 03:06:21,240 Yeah, yeah. Okay, so we like this idea. These things are 2802 03:06:21,240 --> 03:06:25,800 always fantastic. So I will send this link off to Moe and you all 2803 03:06:25,800 --> 03:06:28,290 can coordinate but we I think we'd love it if you would 2804 03:06:28,470 --> 03:06:31,440 continue to do that. Thank you very much. Yes, sir. And that is 2805 03:06:31,650 --> 03:06:33,870 that's our booster Mrs. Oh, I think that's all our booster 2806 03:06:33,870 --> 03:06:37,860 grams. Yes, that's all of the booster grams at thanks, 2807 03:06:37,860 --> 03:06:41,070 everybody for just boosting people also often boost 50,000 2808 03:06:41,070 --> 03:06:47,220 SATs with no message. So that's always appreciated. And we look 2809 03:06:47,220 --> 03:06:51,630 forward to a lot more of these coming our way for episode 82. 2810 03:06:51,960 --> 03:06:57,750 For a modern podcast app, go to Ready, new podcast apps.com. 2811 03:06:57,750 --> 03:07:00,780 Today I'm going to recommend fountain that might be one you 2812 03:07:00,780 --> 03:07:01,800 would enjoy using 2813 03:07:01,830 --> 03:07:08,160 so Faust is still in the lead up to this isn't okay. 2814 03:07:09,690 --> 03:07:12,870 Yeah, now we got him we got we got fountain cast ematic. That's 2815 03:07:12,870 --> 03:07:17,010 iOS only also high in the lead. We've got pod verse Now pod 2816 03:07:17,010 --> 03:07:21,000 versus getting up there too. So but all of them are good for 2817 03:07:21,000 --> 03:07:23,130 different reasons. Try Good. Try a couple of them. They're free 2818 03:07:23,130 --> 03:07:26,340 to try for sure. A new podcast app.com. And again, you can 2819 03:07:26,340 --> 03:07:29,880 always support us directly by going to moe facts.com. We 2820 03:07:29,880 --> 03:07:32,850 appreciate everything that you return in value. We just need 2821 03:07:32,850 --> 03:07:37,320 more of it to keep the show going. So please, M OEFUND M 2822 03:07:37,350 --> 03:07:41,760 e.com. Mo fahmy.com. Thank you. All of you for boosting for no 2823 03:07:41,760 --> 03:07:45,270 agenda, no agenda for boosting with Moe facts with Adam curry, 2824 03:07:45,420 --> 03:07:46,470 Episode 81. 2825 03:07:46,470 --> 03:07:47,550 No agenda to why. 2826 03:07:48,750 --> 03:07:49,830 Exactly. Thank you. 2827 03:07:52,320 --> 03:07:56,040 All right. And I just want to say for people, we understand 2828 03:07:56,070 --> 03:08:00,660 money's tight, baby formula is hard to find gas for 50 years. 2829 03:08:00,660 --> 03:08:05,520 And if you're lucky, we get it. But you know, maybe you want to 2830 03:08:05,520 --> 03:08:09,300 drop that subscription you have or something and started one 2831 03:08:09,300 --> 03:08:12,240 with us. So I mean, like I say, I just want to make sure that we 2832 03:08:12,240 --> 03:08:14,550 know the facts failing on come through. So no doubt about it. 2833 03:08:14,550 --> 03:08:20,130 But just a reminder. Yep. So I just want to make that reminder. 2834 03:08:20,520 --> 03:08:24,390 Speaking of which, now we got Quincy Jones have Quincy Jones 2835 03:08:24,390 --> 03:08:29,460 side of the story. Oh, how Fresh Prince became the Prince of Bel 2836 03:08:29,460 --> 03:08:29,790 Air. 2837 03:08:30,060 --> 03:08:34,440 I had this this multimedia company had just started by 2838 03:08:34,440 --> 03:08:40,860 magazine, which was Steve, I said that it was getting heat 2839 03:08:40,860 --> 03:08:44,220 for synergy and so forth, and to help him to see what the other 2840 03:08:44,220 --> 03:08:46,770 things how we can mix things up. And so I've got a good idea for 2841 03:08:46,770 --> 03:08:50,130 magazines, I don't know much about magazines. Quincy Jones, 2842 03:08:50,340 --> 03:08:53,340 hip hop magazine with Time Warner. So What a ridiculous 2843 03:08:53,340 --> 03:08:57,510 idea. And in five paragraphs, you turn it around, of let's get 2844 03:08:57,510 --> 03:09:02,520 started tomorrow on it, and it worked and it's became the hip 2845 03:09:02,520 --> 03:09:05,880 hop back and seen you know, that's Benny Medina from Wiley. 2846 03:09:05,880 --> 03:09:09,030 With that time, he was the head of black music at Warner 2847 03:09:09,030 --> 03:09:12,930 Brothers. And he kept telling me about this story that have 2848 03:09:12,960 --> 03:09:16,290 occurred with an old friend of mine that when I was living in 2849 03:09:16,290 --> 03:09:20,400 Paris, that was the genesis of it met I did we like to know. 2850 03:09:20,970 --> 03:09:27,300 And so at six o'clock we were doing still having a meeting 2851 03:09:27,300 --> 03:09:30,540 with Warren Littlefield and Brandon Tartikoff. And Ben it 2852 03:09:30,540 --> 03:09:34,560 was out melodrama. So he called Betty and to just explain to 2853 03:09:34,560 --> 03:09:38,220 explain his life's was really his life story, you know. And so 2854 03:09:38,220 --> 03:09:41,100 in eight minutes, we made the pitch and 11 o'clock, Warren 2855 03:09:41,100 --> 03:09:44,580 Littlefield called me up and said, We like this. We showed 2856 03:09:44,580 --> 03:09:52,500 him we'll know. And I'll have a video. And they call it 11 2857 03:09:52,500 --> 03:09:56,430 o'clock and says we buzz. Tomorrow. You'd have to speak to 2858 03:09:56,430 --> 03:10:01,050 700 sponsors to tell him that your father seven kids and that 2859 03:10:01,170 --> 03:10:04,380 will build rapport is not dangerous like will Michael 2860 03:10:04,380 --> 03:10:07,200 Mazur Wilson was being dangerous but they know it's the first 2861 03:10:07,200 --> 03:10:10,350 time I wrap it up with him this is they hadn't had done movies 2862 03:10:10,350 --> 03:10:15,030 or anything then and then really believed that they would rap was 2863 03:10:15,030 --> 03:10:17,280 gonna happen and I remember Michael Jackson telling me that 2864 03:10:17,280 --> 03:10:18,810 it's rap is dead, you know? 2865 03:10:22,050 --> 03:10:25,560 That's what I'm talking about that was that safe. I remember 2866 03:10:25,560 --> 03:10:29,610 like I said, it's, it's so pivotal that show and that was 2867 03:10:29,610 --> 03:10:34,170 the making of fresh prints. The same with Martin. That was those 2868 03:10:34,170 --> 03:10:40,800 two they invaded television around the same time with a new 2869 03:10:40,830 --> 03:10:47,430 it wasn't the Cosby Show, it was something different. It was even 2870 03:10:47,430 --> 03:10:53,190 take black out of it just like rap as a sub genre, seeing hip 2871 03:10:53,190 --> 03:10:57,990 hop star have us major television show. That was a very 2872 03:10:57,990 --> 03:11:00,480 that was a big you knew where you were gonna be at Monday, 2873 03:11:00,510 --> 03:11:04,710 eight o'clock. Because Tuesday when you got to school, you 2874 03:11:04,710 --> 03:11:08,640 know, you want to do the show. He was saying like, all the 2875 03:11:08,640 --> 03:11:13,560 handshake, everything everything was gonna be talking about. I 2876 03:11:13,560 --> 03:11:15,630 think that's kind of hard for other people to understand. Now 2877 03:11:15,630 --> 03:11:21,960 that was living on demand. Experience, you know, when you 2878 03:11:21,960 --> 03:11:24,630 everybody was the same time it was 2879 03:11:24,630 --> 03:11:27,840 must see TV, that was exactly what it was. You had. 2880 03:11:28,950 --> 03:11:33,330 You had to see it. And it was a good show. It wasn't just saying 2881 03:11:33,330 --> 03:11:39,390 good morals to it at the same time, um, but it was the, that 2882 03:11:39,390 --> 03:11:46,770 was like the Boulais. Showing how the Boulay we recruit family 2883 03:11:46,770 --> 03:11:50,310 members, and this is a real thing. Whereas I owe young, 2884 03:11:50,310 --> 03:11:54,120 talented, bright person, maybe from a heart upbringing, let's 2885 03:11:54,120 --> 03:11:58,380 bring him in my dad offerings and is to like, no saint family 2886 03:11:58,380 --> 03:12:01,770 members and I and our family. You know, like, come live with 2887 03:12:01,770 --> 03:12:05,100 us get on your feet, you know, come to the city. It wasn't on a 2888 03:12:05,100 --> 03:12:08,610 scale like money wise, but you live in in a place with not many 2889 03:12:08,610 --> 03:12:11,250 opportunities. We're living here somewhere where opportunities 2890 03:12:11,250 --> 03:12:15,120 come live with us. I've had so many cousins and uncles and 2891 03:12:15,360 --> 03:12:19,020 aunts and whatever else share a room. Because that's what you 2892 03:12:19,020 --> 03:12:25,230 did that that was high. It was different from the coffee's that 2893 03:12:25,230 --> 03:12:31,320 was you know, cover that spectrum of economics. And 2894 03:12:31,320 --> 03:12:34,560 that's why I was magical now. Quincy Jones mentioned something 2895 03:12:34,560 --> 03:12:40,710 about divine magazine, divine magazine had Quincy Jones 2896 03:12:40,710 --> 03:12:44,130 brought so much to the table, thriller and everything else but 2897 03:12:44,130 --> 03:12:50,040 the bomb magazine may be one of his biggest but least talked 2898 03:12:50,040 --> 03:12:52,020 about accomplishment. I think it was 2899 03:12:52,770 --> 03:12:56,460 I think it was actually around the launch of vibe that that was 2900 03:12:56,460 --> 03:12:59,130 the context of my interview with him. I'm just thinking now 2901 03:12:59,190 --> 03:13:04,860 it makes sense because so many pivotal events. Brock Obama's 2902 03:13:04,860 --> 03:13:10,170 big first cover was the vibe. Yeah. brought him to us. And it 2903 03:13:10,170 --> 03:13:13,950 really started the East Coast. West Coast beef. Yeah. Between 2904 03:13:13,950 --> 03:13:17,580 Tupac and Biggie from the VA. I mean, that was that what it made 2905 03:13:17,580 --> 03:13:21,030 it really public and I have trash here. Mama's cubby a 2906 03:13:21,030 --> 03:13:24,870 baby's ears because treasures and two pots ran from not my 2907 03:13:24,870 --> 03:13:29,790 nature. He's saying he's loose with the words so just be be 2908 03:13:29,790 --> 03:13:33,240 warned. But this is trash on the vibe calls in the East Coast. 2909 03:13:33,240 --> 03:13:34,050 West Coast beef. 2910 03:13:34,680 --> 03:13:39,360 We got that motherfucking Vibe magazine right? Where you see 2911 03:13:39,390 --> 03:13:45,450 big and puff on the cover. East versus West. When I saw that 2912 03:13:45,450 --> 03:13:51,390 fucking cover I said man What the fuck is going on? Gangsters 2913 03:13:51,390 --> 03:13:56,190 don't read the articles. He was on the East Coast like yo is on 2914 03:13:56,190 --> 03:13:58,650 waits on the West Coast. Nick has come out here. West Coast 2915 03:13:58,650 --> 03:14:01,560 like always on wait till the East Coast Nick has come out 2916 03:14:01,560 --> 03:14:07,860 here. So a baited up a whole shit. That fucking went down. 2917 03:14:08,340 --> 03:14:13,260 That had just so many cycles of all Biggie falling was riders, 2918 03:14:13,260 --> 03:14:16,770 all part riders motherfuckers that didn't even know neither 2919 03:14:16,770 --> 03:14:20,160 one of them. Gangster as motherfuckers it could have 2920 03:14:20,160 --> 03:14:23,310 really turned into a more fucking East Coast West Coast 2921 03:14:23,310 --> 03:14:23,850 war. 2922 03:14:24,690 --> 03:14:27,570 Oh, I didn't know this. I didn't know that. That Vibe magazine 2923 03:14:27,570 --> 03:14:30,120 was the genesis of this. Oh, 2924 03:14:30,150 --> 03:14:34,770 yes. Oh, yes. That article. That was I mean, it was nd went in 2925 03:14:34,770 --> 03:14:38,310 the window. There were songs there was ash, who shot you by 2926 03:14:38,310 --> 03:14:42,870 biggie? You're saying but this was really when it was made 2927 03:14:42,870 --> 03:14:46,530 public of the beef. You know, saying it was very a lot of 2928 03:14:46,530 --> 03:14:50,880 subliminals. So the vial had a big role to do with that. And at 2929 03:14:50,880 --> 03:14:53,580 the same time, people gotta remember that's when the me and 2930 03:14:53,580 --> 03:14:56,640 Man March was going on. When Black men was trying to take 2931 03:14:56,640 --> 03:14:59,970 control of their identities. There was 2932 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:04,620 As there was let's make the black man look bad. Exactly. 2933 03:15:05,010 --> 03:15:08,070 You're gonna wait are you is this show going to end with me 2934 03:15:08,070 --> 03:15:09,960 not liking Quincy Jones 2935 03:15:10,230 --> 03:15:11,460 abre show is gonna 2936 03:15:15,269 --> 03:15:16,679 choose your own adventure 2937 03:15:19,590 --> 03:15:25,110 quiz quick. Get into quick the second part about the first 2938 03:15:25,110 --> 03:15:25,500 sprint. 2939 03:15:25,770 --> 03:15:31,080 We'll see what happens we'll was we were doing back on the block. 2940 03:15:31,110 --> 03:15:33,930 I have the whole group up there we had four rappers who have 2941 03:15:33,930 --> 03:15:39,330 iced tea and all the guys and the Gospel Choir Tevin Campbell, 2942 03:15:39,330 --> 03:15:43,320 everybody. We've done Arsenio Hall Show of glory out of 2943 03:15:43,320 --> 03:15:47,940 delimiting that came by to see the show. And I think we'll ask 2944 03:15:47,970 --> 03:15:50,970 him, that the directions or something, how to get to the 2945 03:15:50,970 --> 03:15:55,590 farm, took his numbers have been in the process in order to get 2946 03:15:55,590 --> 03:16:02,040 ambiences and working with borrowers. The family was 2947 03:16:02,040 --> 03:16:06,810 changed to bougie black family, which made it much stronger. Got 2948 03:16:06,810 --> 03:16:11,700 the great, great, great casts right away. Right away. It just, 2949 03:16:12,150 --> 03:16:15,000 it's stuck. Like, you don't want to see the writers. And we want 2950 03:16:15,000 --> 03:16:18,750 to hear in 10 weeks after the pitch. 10 weeks, no time for 2951 03:16:18,750 --> 03:16:22,770 paralysis analysis. Nobody time but notes and all that junk. 2952 03:16:23,460 --> 03:16:28,710 Just did it. I did a couple of did a cameo on restaurants with 2953 03:16:28,710 --> 03:16:34,200 Little Richard Richard Penniman were both the same age. Well, it 2954 03:16:34,200 --> 03:16:39,420 was the impact I think was the combination of you know, the 2955 03:16:39,930 --> 03:16:43,710 both sides of the economic strata, you know, black 2956 03:16:43,710 --> 03:16:47,850 community, you know, which is glaring. And I mean that that 2957 03:16:47,850 --> 03:16:52,530 gives you a premise for every every episode, when you got one 2958 03:16:52,710 --> 03:16:55,530 from Philadelphia, they've got thrown out of the out of the 2959 03:16:55,530 --> 03:16:58,200 house, it was too much trouble to come out here with his 2960 03:16:58,200 --> 03:17:03,750 bourgeois family. And every move he makes, you know, is the scene 2961 03:17:03,750 --> 03:17:04,530 for entertainment. 2962 03:17:05,279 --> 03:17:06,209 And for conflict. 2963 03:17:07,050 --> 03:17:13,320 Yes, that's right. Conflict is great cue. Funny conflict is 2964 03:17:13,320 --> 03:17:13,920 funny. 2965 03:17:14,640 --> 03:17:19,770 Yeah. And just be honest, in the brochure, a lot of a lot of 2966 03:17:19,890 --> 03:17:25,260 interesting topics. As far as I'm, like, one of the pivotal 2967 03:17:25,260 --> 03:17:28,950 scenes show Will Smith acting abilities, went about the 2968 03:17:28,950 --> 03:17:34,710 deadbeat father, that was one that is actually in the 2969 03:17:34,710 --> 03:17:38,670 collective conscious of when he was like, Why do you don't want 2970 03:17:38,670 --> 03:17:42,000 me Uncle Phil, and then he cried. So it was the good, the 2971 03:17:42,000 --> 03:17:48,720 bad, but I gotta say, like, Quincy Jones, he's at the center 2972 03:17:48,720 --> 03:17:52,170 a lot of stuff and doing his research and his Will Smith 2973 03:17:52,170 --> 03:17:57,780 show. And what I knew about his previous past, it's like, you 2974 03:17:57,780 --> 03:18:00,810 know, to pot, you know, Will Smith. 2975 03:18:02,490 --> 03:18:06,660 A, you know, Jada was going 2976 03:18:08,370 --> 03:18:12,330 well, that's too, that's too many coincidence, 2977 03:18:12,930 --> 03:18:16,650 and involved in production of the award show. 2978 03:18:18,480 --> 03:18:24,990 And like I said, so let's go ahead and get into 37. You've 2979 03:18:24,990 --> 03:18:25,560 been nothing but 2980 03:18:26,640 --> 03:18:29,850 net kitty three, I know you've had you had a very important 2981 03:18:29,850 --> 03:18:32,700 relationship with Tupac. Why do you think you know, there's a 2982 03:18:32,700 --> 03:18:35,040 lot of people that didn't understand the genius that he 2983 03:18:35,040 --> 03:18:37,800 was and thought of him as dumb in a lot of ways or maybe 2984 03:18:37,800 --> 03:18:40,110 ignorant, a little too violent? Why do you think that that's the 2985 03:18:40,110 --> 03:18:41,250 case, I would 2986 03:18:41,250 --> 03:18:46,830 say that Tupac was probably the smartest artists that I met in 2987 03:18:46,830 --> 03:18:49,980 terms of the full range in terms of politics, you know, personal 2988 03:18:49,980 --> 03:18:53,010 relationships, and, you know, scholastically, whatever you're 2989 03:18:53,010 --> 03:18:57,120 just reading. But I also feel like to some degree, he dumbed 2990 03:18:57,120 --> 03:19:01,410 down to sort of let his audience know, in some ways that he was 2991 03:19:01,410 --> 03:19:04,860 relatable. And not to say that his audience was dumb, but he 2992 03:19:04,860 --> 03:19:07,620 was putting on a facade to relate to them in a better way, 2993 03:19:07,620 --> 03:19:09,450 you know what I mean, with the whole Death Row persona and all 2994 03:19:09,450 --> 03:19:13,290 that. And then he was probably three to four months away from 2995 03:19:13,290 --> 03:19:16,470 turning all that around. And it's sort of what Karis did with 2996 03:19:16,470 --> 03:19:18,540 his first album, he had those he's on the cover, and then the 2997 03:19:18,540 --> 03:19:21,630 very next album, he became the teacher. So puck was about to do 2998 03:19:21,630 --> 03:19:24,480 that turn around and say, Okay, now that I've got the 2999 03:19:24,480 --> 03:19:27,150 demographic that needs the help the most, I'm gonna turn around 3000 03:19:27,150 --> 03:19:29,700 and teach them certain things. Yeah. And I think that 3001 03:19:29,730 --> 03:19:33,480 unfortunately, it was just cut short, but he he had so much in 3002 03:19:33,480 --> 03:19:36,120 the pipeline that people don't know. But I mean, he was so well 3003 03:19:36,120 --> 03:19:38,910 read, he would read each book two, three times in a row and 3004 03:19:38,910 --> 03:19:41,580 ask a bunch of people questions about the book. So he really 3005 03:19:41,580 --> 03:19:44,310 learned it, you know, so I think he was ready to unleash a lot of 3006 03:19:44,310 --> 03:19:46,950 that in his political thoughts and power and all that kind of 3007 03:19:46,950 --> 03:19:50,100 stuff. And just unfortunately, got cut short, you know, and, 3008 03:19:50,100 --> 03:19:53,760 you know, to some degree, fame is also a drug. So maybe he got 3009 03:19:53,760 --> 03:19:56,130 caught up in that a little bit, but I think he was probably 3010 03:19:56,190 --> 03:19:58,380 literally four to five months away from the turnaround 3011 03:19:58,380 --> 03:20:01,290 becoming a man and becoming In the leader that he was in, he 3012 03:20:01,290 --> 03:20:05,130 was born into the Black Panthers and sort of raised to be the 3013 03:20:05,130 --> 03:20:05,790 next leader. 3014 03:20:06,330 --> 03:20:09,960 Yeah, we can't have that. So now that doesn't sound like 3015 03:20:09,960 --> 03:20:13,140 something when he can't have a can't have Tupac changing his 3016 03:20:13,140 --> 03:20:15,300 tune, become a thought leader. 3017 03:20:15,780 --> 03:20:21,900 And it seems like Quincy had his stones on both spectrums of hip 3018 03:20:21,900 --> 03:20:27,030 hop, where we will smith at one extreme and then to pocket the 3019 03:20:27,030 --> 03:20:30,750 other extreme. And they both were under his thumb in a way. 3020 03:20:32,040 --> 03:20:34,830 Yeah, he already had a good wholesome guy. 3021 03:20:36,180 --> 03:20:37,260 He didn't need another one. 3022 03:20:38,280 --> 03:20:40,620 Right? So you gotta have this other you're saying like you 3023 03:20:40,620 --> 03:20:44,820 say, it's you controlling both ends, both polar opposites. 3024 03:20:45,210 --> 03:20:47,520 Just one other thing I'd like to say about Fresh Prince of Bel 3025 03:20:47,520 --> 03:20:51,330 Air, because you gave us your perspective. Now, you knew where 3026 03:20:51,330 --> 03:20:56,220 you were Monday night, eight o'clock. So did I. But we were 3027 03:20:56,220 --> 03:20:58,740 there for different reasons. We didn't we didn't view fresh 3028 03:20:58,740 --> 03:21:04,110 prints the way you did. To us it was and of course, this was made 3029 03:21:04,110 --> 03:21:07,590 for white audiences. Yes, it was, you know, it was for all 3030 03:21:07,590 --> 03:21:12,900 audiences. But this is NBC, Brandon Tartikoff. I mean, it 3031 03:21:12,900 --> 03:21:15,360 was a huge hit. You're not a huge hit, unless you bring in 3032 03:21:15,360 --> 03:21:19,470 wide audiences just like hip hop, basically. At least when 3033 03:21:19,470 --> 03:21:24,900 it's charging and on the radio. And I think for wide audiences 3034 03:21:24,900 --> 03:21:27,780 for me of just trying to think back and remember I was like 3035 03:21:29,040 --> 03:21:32,580 wow, you know, that's really good to see that there's very 3036 03:21:32,580 --> 03:21:33,810 successful black people. 3037 03:21:35,700 --> 03:21:41,310 Right, what it did was it was the safe space between a mark in 3038 03:21:41,370 --> 03:21:46,830 in a Bill Cosby Cosby Show because you had the rich family 3039 03:21:46,860 --> 03:21:52,860 i The Cosby's, but then you had the hip hop vibe of a mark. So 3040 03:21:52,860 --> 03:21:58,440 it was it was the perfect it was safe. Yeah, it was it was a safe 3041 03:21:58,440 --> 03:22:02,250 spot. And we'll we'll get up to shenanigans but he wasn't 3042 03:22:02,520 --> 03:22:06,540 well, not not just safe. But what would Quincy sees and what 3043 03:22:06,540 --> 03:22:10,950 Quincy says very accurately is you have this conflict, and that 3044 03:22:10,950 --> 03:22:15,900 conflict is where ratings live. I think you know, I don't know 3045 03:22:15,900 --> 03:22:21,660 if we're going to find out how political and Boulay Quincy is 3046 03:22:21,660 --> 03:22:24,960 in this regard. But from a ratings perspective, a 3047 03:22:24,960 --> 03:22:27,810 television productions perspective is the dream is the 3048 03:22:27,810 --> 03:22:30,840 dream. Every producer would see that as a dream. 3049 03:22:31,470 --> 03:22:36,360 Yeah, is the dream and like I say in any shape of my mind as 3050 03:22:36,510 --> 03:22:39,480 as a young person watching the show. So let's go ahead and get 3051 03:22:39,480 --> 03:22:39,570 in 3052 03:22:39,570 --> 03:22:42,360 so it can help me ask how did it shape your what what what was 3053 03:22:42,360 --> 03:22:46,380 your takeaway from as a young young person watching the show? 3054 03:22:49,080 --> 03:22:50,550 Will was 3055 03:22:52,320 --> 03:22:56,700 cool, man, he was good was still cool. You had you had these 3056 03:22:56,700 --> 03:23:00,180 people like it was like a predecessor like Kanye. It was. 3057 03:23:00,780 --> 03:23:05,100 You had Dwayne Wade and with Dwayne Wayne over it on 3058 03:23:05,130 --> 03:23:10,200 different we're also proud of yeah, these people you could 3059 03:23:10,650 --> 03:23:14,940 identify with. But we it was cool, because yeah, like I said 3060 03:23:14,940 --> 03:23:20,640 he had the Jordans on and the back. And you know, if he would 3061 03:23:20,640 --> 03:23:25,050 have searched Queen Latif and was on the stars, the cameos was 3062 03:23:25,050 --> 03:23:30,240 the real thing. You got Donald Trump. Chris Rock. 3063 03:23:31,320 --> 03:23:34,320 Yeah, yeah, no, Kami? Yeah. 3064 03:23:35,730 --> 03:23:39,210 Kevin Kambou Yeah. Which that's a whole nother story for 3065 03:23:39,810 --> 03:23:40,740 Oh, man. 3066 03:23:42,990 --> 03:23:47,610 But you had all these things and then you had like I said, you 3067 03:23:47,610 --> 03:23:52,350 had Carlton, which was so corny. It may will look cool. 3068 03:23:53,039 --> 03:23:56,309 And what a sad story, Carlton, just he never got out of that 3069 03:23:56,309 --> 03:23:56,849 role. 3070 03:23:59,190 --> 03:24:03,180 That's the thing you wish you're getting stuck there. Yeah. What 3071 03:24:03,210 --> 03:24:06,090 the question is, do you would you rather have that type of 3072 03:24:06,090 --> 03:24:08,520 fame or no fame at all? I can't answer that question. I'm not 3073 03:24:08,520 --> 03:24:12,600 into fame. But as an actor, I mean, he has his own dance. For 3074 03:24:12,600 --> 03:24:13,980 crying out loud. So 3075 03:24:14,040 --> 03:24:16,950 I work with him on circus of the stars and man he was just 3076 03:24:16,980 --> 03:24:21,480 entertaining everybody backstage he was singing dancing tap and 3077 03:24:21,780 --> 03:24:26,640 but just everything that st like and that was just backstage. 3078 03:24:26,820 --> 03:24:31,140 That was just for people on the show. You know, he was just kind 3079 03:24:31,140 --> 03:24:36,480 of that guy like always full of energy not acting. When you saw 3080 03:24:36,480 --> 03:24:38,070 on fresh prints, that's him. 3081 03:24:38,970 --> 03:24:41,970 That's that weird spot to get put in because that's that Wayne 3082 03:24:41,970 --> 03:24:49,950 Brady lane is like you sad to say but you can't smell like 3083 03:24:49,950 --> 03:24:54,150 that. You can't laugh like that is because people will think 3084 03:24:54,150 --> 03:24:59,970 like you're a pushover and not. That's what led will to be 10 3085 03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:02,910 thinking that way. And it's like, oh, you're gonna respect 3086 03:25:02,910 --> 03:25:06,810 me today, you know, same kind of thing as far as, you know, the 3087 03:25:06,810 --> 03:25:09,510 way he tried to change his image, and that's why I think 3088 03:25:09,510 --> 03:25:11,880 that you're gonna keep my wife name out your mouth. That was 3089 03:25:11,880 --> 03:25:15,030 that was. That was like y'all playing with me? Yes. No, no 3090 03:25:15,030 --> 03:25:21,660 play with me. So, okay, so I think we started 3738 38 Now 3091 03:25:21,660 --> 03:25:24,930 just go and get 30 Okay, this is Quincy Jones on Tupac. 3092 03:25:25,380 --> 03:25:29,280 And he was born into the Black Panthers and sort of raised to 3093 03:25:29,280 --> 03:25:32,220 be the next leader. Yeah, so he was ready for it. And he knew 3094 03:25:32,250 --> 03:25:34,890 where do you think he lost his way on that? Or do you think he 3095 03:25:34,890 --> 03:25:35,490 lost his way of 3096 03:25:35,850 --> 03:25:40,290 connecting with the culture? I think he knows his sister and my 3097 03:25:40,290 --> 03:25:44,370 daughter he died in her arms and Las Vegas. She was engaged Sam. 3098 03:25:44,790 --> 03:25:50,010 And he's the writer letters like Lord Byron, reading a one point 3099 03:25:50,040 --> 03:25:52,440 affairs and the fact that recited unrolls that came from 3100 03:25:52,440 --> 03:25:58,500 concrete. Starry Eyes, Bob above Vincent van Gogh, but Jada 3101 03:25:58,500 --> 03:26:04,230 Pinkett was the first girlfriend of multiple AAA students, you 3102 03:26:04,230 --> 03:26:08,700 know, but it's not hip to be this not him to be smart. And 3103 03:26:08,700 --> 03:26:10,950 that's got picked off. Because it's a joke. 3104 03:26:12,660 --> 03:26:18,150 I didn't know that. Tupac died in his daughter's arms. What are 3105 03:26:18,150 --> 03:26:19,140 the chances? 3106 03:26:21,510 --> 03:26:27,000 He had control of both poles of hip hop. Gees, 3107 03:26:27,270 --> 03:26:32,640 the safest and the most radical and it gets worse. We get more 3108 03:26:32,640 --> 03:26:38,670 interesting but yeah, yeah. But I want to now we got to get 3109 03:26:38,670 --> 03:26:42,240 in Wait a minute he had. Also Jada Pinkett Smith was his first 3110 03:26:42,240 --> 03:26:45,240 girlfriend is that what he said? No, that was two parts first 3111 03:26:45,240 --> 03:26:50,340 girls what I said to pucks first girlfriend? Yes. Yes. Holy crap. 3112 03:26:50,820 --> 03:26:55,530 Then this is the real issue with Will Smith. It's not about Chris 3113 03:26:55,530 --> 03:27:00,480 bra. It's not even my August our samen keys bet chasing a ghost? 3114 03:27:01,380 --> 03:27:07,350 Yeah, and he's woman's heart. Everybody knows is like oh, he 3115 03:27:07,440 --> 03:27:15,630 she picked you because he died. Oh. And it makes for a hell of a 3116 03:27:15,630 --> 03:27:21,330 control mechanism. Sure. So now we gotta go to different world a 3117 03:27:21,330 --> 03:27:25,740 Bill Cosby production which feature to pop. Now while we're 3118 03:27:25,740 --> 03:27:30,390 Bill Cosby feel safe enough now we heard how much scrutiny We 3119 03:27:30,390 --> 03:27:36,000 Will Smith had to go through to get to get Fresh Prince of Bel 3120 03:27:36,000 --> 03:27:39,720 Air with Bill Cosby Mr. poundcake pull it be pants 3121 03:27:40,560 --> 03:27:46,140 allows Jada Pinkett Smith to costar with Tupac or his 3122 03:27:46,140 --> 03:27:49,980 production different world and this is going to be example I 3123 03:27:49,980 --> 03:27:57,210 think this was a reflection of what she was going through but 3124 03:27:57,240 --> 03:28:05,730 also how can I put it ah showed Will Smith is being played by a 3125 03:28:05,760 --> 03:28:10,860 guy named Doreen in this episode. And it's gonna show her 3126 03:28:10,860 --> 03:28:13,500 struggle between wanting to be with the thrill to pot or with 3127 03:28:13,500 --> 03:28:16,290 the safeguard during aka Will Smith. 3128 03:28:19,530 --> 03:28:27,030 leanly Gleadless a potty cool oh okay, now I know what you're 3129 03:28:27,030 --> 03:28:30,060 trying to do okay, that's not necessarily what you're trying 3130 03:28:30,060 --> 03:28:31,560 to say lately you want to dance with somebody 3131 03:28:31,560 --> 03:28:41,370 else baby love Brad's out of male ego convinced picking on 3132 03:28:41,370 --> 03:28:42,210 that now right? 3133 03:28:42,240 --> 03:28:46,020 Seriously though Lena use my first love and I can't get five 3134 03:28:46,020 --> 03:28:46,680 minutes alone 3135 03:28:46,680 --> 03:28:56,670 with you one day I so miss you. Notice or mom we have our first 3136 03:28:56,670 --> 03:28:58,890 dance together. Remember the heartbeat? 3137 03:29:02,010 --> 03:29:03,810 Yes, let's not go there right. 3138 03:29:04,620 --> 03:29:08,430 Now a lot has changed since the last time we saw each other and 3139 03:29:08,430 --> 03:29:17,220 not the same brother. same to me. Well, I'm really getting it 3140 03:29:17,250 --> 03:29:21,780 again. And we live the street life family hitting on took you 3141 03:29:21,780 --> 03:29:26,400 this long to realize that Rico got smoked. 3142 03:29:29,010 --> 03:29:30,840 I heard about it and I wanted to call but 3143 03:29:31,170 --> 03:29:34,380 so wish you wouldn't be the only person I could have talked to. 3144 03:29:34,650 --> 03:29:37,980 Once you call me pick up on stuff give that rough you can 3145 03:29:38,010 --> 03:29:39,120 always call me. 3146 03:29:40,080 --> 03:29:44,430 That's why I'm here and then give me a job. Look me up a 3147 03:29:44,430 --> 03:29:47,790 career. When you do it this Khalistan we can really have a 3148 03:29:47,790 --> 03:29:48,090 go and 3149 03:29:48,359 --> 03:29:51,419 see now. This is exactly what I was afraid of. You're not gonna 3150 03:29:51,419 --> 03:29:54,989 come down here, jump in my life and act like everything's okay. 3151 03:29:55,169 --> 03:29:59,519 I got an agenda. And despite what you might think I'm glad a 3152 03:29:59,519 --> 03:30:07,499 man got to do with me nice laughter 3153 03:30:07,739 --> 03:30:10,769 I know you're just passing it's on with the quiet boy. Like I 3154 03:30:10,769 --> 03:30:11,879 was if the boy 3155 03:30:13,860 --> 03:30:14,880 you weren't all that 3156 03:30:18,210 --> 03:30:23,370 Oh, so now you are that now to to bougie squares. 3157 03:30:24,000 --> 03:30:27,600 What you want quiet boy? Lincoln told me you ain't doing the 3158 03:30:27,600 --> 03:30:32,400 right thing is standing with your mouth open. Let your woman 3159 03:30:32,400 --> 03:30:33,480 handle your business 3160 03:30:46,020 --> 03:30:49,200 so okay, and that was Jada Pinkett Smith was the girl. 3161 03:30:49,440 --> 03:30:53,520 Yes. This is what her real life boyfriends 3162 03:30:53,550 --> 03:31:00,720 This is life imitates art man. Yeah. So Bill Cosby was getting 3163 03:31:00,720 --> 03:31:02,910 in on that. On that cue action. 3164 03:31:03,810 --> 03:31:07,800 They ran NBC and seemed like it's with some clout 3165 03:31:08,100 --> 03:31:11,850 Oh, Bill Cosby was incredibly powerful at NBC. 3166 03:31:12,000 --> 03:31:15,030 Yes, we're saying and then you got Q bringing in fresh prints 3167 03:31:15,030 --> 03:31:17,340 which is this old powerhouse 3168 03:31:19,500 --> 03:31:25,110 power struggle I don't know No, no, no, no no I'm telling you 3169 03:31:25,110 --> 03:31:30,750 right now power struggle between q and Bill seriously Oh 3170 03:31:30,750 --> 03:31:33,360 definitely. And now I'm thinking que might have something to do 3171 03:31:33,360 --> 03:31:34,530 with Bill going to jail. 3172 03:31:36,120 --> 03:31:40,950 He was quoted as saying I'll tell you what me and Bill used 3173 03:31:40,950 --> 03:31:43,290 to do you know saying I would end up being you know, like 3174 03:31:43,290 --> 03:31:50,700 basically in trouble. So I think Allah when students open up and 3175 03:31:51,510 --> 03:31:55,740 I remember these guys are these guys are Boulais 3176 03:31:56,460 --> 03:32:01,290 and that would explain why he led POC on his show. Because he 3177 03:32:01,290 --> 03:32:05,370 had a script by make it rough up the image of different world and 3178 03:32:05,370 --> 03:32:09,810 it's gonna change by a different world had a different tone to it 3179 03:32:09,810 --> 03:32:13,080 was more about his daughter Denise going to college. But it 3180 03:32:13,080 --> 03:32:17,730 did this pivot of like, kind of recruiting all young black 3181 03:32:17,730 --> 03:32:21,480 people of different lifestyles into college. And this is proven 3182 03:32:22,200 --> 03:32:29,460 college admissions to it doubled at the different world. So that 3183 03:32:29,460 --> 03:32:32,850 is by me imitating art but let's go ahead and get to the second 3184 03:32:32,850 --> 03:32:36,030 part of this clip. Because you're going to hear I think 3185 03:32:36,030 --> 03:32:38,250 what jailers struggle with because cue says she was a 3186 03:32:38,250 --> 03:32:41,190 straight A student, but they were from Baltimore, her and 3187 03:32:41,190 --> 03:32:45,000 pop. So I think this is by what she was struggling with an image 3188 03:32:45,000 --> 03:32:49,260 and I think this may lend to her. No being more radical 3189 03:32:49,290 --> 03:32:53,940 compared to will and hopping on the Oscars so white bandwagon. 3190 03:32:55,470 --> 03:32:59,070 Lena Why are you looking like that girl? You had to find men 3191 03:32:59,070 --> 03:33:00,090 fight over union you 3192 03:33:00,090 --> 03:33:03,270 better smile. But it's something about that piccolo I can't put 3193 03:33:03,270 --> 03:33:03,960 my finger on 3194 03:33:05,160 --> 03:33:08,790 these doggish scandalous pinfish gangsters and hooligan nests. 3195 03:33:09,000 --> 03:33:13,740 But he's so fun. First of all, y'all need to stop talking about 3196 03:33:13,740 --> 03:33:15,300 people that you don't even know 3197 03:33:20,610 --> 03:33:23,820 what the hell are you looking at? That's all you got from his 3198 03:33:23,820 --> 03:33:25,080 mouth Almighty 3199 03:33:28,080 --> 03:33:30,900 it's not my man anymore. Okay. And to well, 3200 03:33:31,080 --> 03:33:32,130 don't you mean be 3201 03:33:36,300 --> 03:33:38,070 What did she say there? I didn't catch it. 3202 03:33:38,609 --> 03:33:41,129 She said one and then she she's in a 3203 03:33:44,550 --> 03:33:47,430 coma was not my man anymore. Okay. And to 3204 03:33:47,939 --> 03:33:48,989 me, don't you mean be 3205 03:33:56,100 --> 03:34:01,080 and to Charmaine and Gina Ray, he acted like he always acts 3206 03:34:01,080 --> 03:34:03,270 when he doesn't get what he wants. And that's like a Joe 3207 03:34:03,270 --> 03:34:03,780 hood. 3208 03:34:04,950 --> 03:34:09,090 I can't believe this. First you leave us you leave the crew to 3209 03:34:09,090 --> 03:34:11,880 come to college to educate yourself, knock you with that. 3210 03:34:11,880 --> 03:34:15,930 It's cool. But then you start running around with these people 3211 03:34:15,930 --> 03:34:24,840 like choirboy and these two fake females taking this on hold it 3212 03:34:26,130 --> 03:34:27,390 now first of all, 3213 03:34:28,199 --> 03:34:32,279 I'm not on anybody's side. Okay. Let's move on to your mug girl. 3214 03:34:32,789 --> 03:34:35,999 Okay, understand and I'm here just trying to get an education 3215 03:34:36,209 --> 03:34:39,629 right I'd rather be here than on the corner doing absolutely 3216 03:34:39,629 --> 03:34:47,909 nothing ended up with a city job so it's like that. 3217 03:34:49,440 --> 03:34:50,340 I guess so. 3218 03:34:56,550 --> 03:35:00,510 When the Lena James that I know comes back well Don't you tell 3219 03:35:00,510 --> 03:35:07,560 her to call me? Ma nothing wrong with a city job. Hmm. 3220 03:35:08,519 --> 03:35:11,399 So that I think that's why Jada Pinkett was struggling. You're 3221 03:35:11,399 --> 03:35:14,399 saying I'm choosing between Tupac. And we'll because it was 3222 03:35:14,399 --> 03:35:19,319 bigger than just mean. It was identity is like, you know, 3223 03:35:19,319 --> 03:35:22,439 where are you going to be? bougie or bougie This is another 3224 03:35:22,439 --> 03:35:22,799 word for 3225 03:35:23,579 --> 03:35:26,609 the Boulais to do you think do you think that somewhere in 3226 03:35:26,609 --> 03:35:32,789 wills programming? He has to actually show he's a bad boy to 3227 03:35:32,789 --> 03:35:34,319 be quote unquote real? 3228 03:35:35,640 --> 03:35:36,720 Yeah, that's a struggle. 3229 03:35:36,779 --> 03:35:39,719 I mean it but he always failed at it. It said in the previous 3230 03:35:39,719 --> 03:35:43,619 clips because he wasn't never quite black enough for black 3231 03:35:43,619 --> 03:35:46,349 people. It wasn't quite wide enough or safe enough for white 3232 03:35:46,349 --> 03:35:49,979 people. Maybe he was good enough. Yeah, thuggish enough. 3233 03:35:49,979 --> 03:35:50,339 Yeah. 3234 03:35:52,680 --> 03:35:54,510 Man, this is so deep. 3235 03:35:55,020 --> 03:35:58,470 No, you I think this is that the burgeoning of gangsta rap and 3236 03:35:58,470 --> 03:36:03,630 hip hop and becoming a huge commodity? And early to mid 90s. 3237 03:36:04,050 --> 03:36:07,800 So I mean, are you gonna be jiggy with it? Are you gonna be? 3238 03:36:08,580 --> 03:36:11,100 He was gonna be Yeah. 3239 03:36:11,460 --> 03:36:16,260 So um, alright, so this is we're talking about how jealousy was a 3240 03:36:16,260 --> 03:36:16,800 two pot. 3241 03:36:17,130 --> 03:36:21,930 Were you ever jealous of the love Jada had for Tupac? Oh, 3242 03:36:21,930 --> 03:36:26,670 fuck, yeah. No, God Damn, dude. And you know, and that was in. 3243 03:36:26,850 --> 03:36:29,910 That was in the early days. Yeah. I was in the early days. 3244 03:36:29,910 --> 03:36:34,020 And it was like that that was a big regret for me too. Because I 3245 03:36:34,020 --> 03:36:38,880 could never. I could never open up to interact with with pot. 3246 03:36:39,270 --> 03:36:42,480 You know, we had a little bit of Yang, right? Because, you know, 3247 03:36:44,040 --> 03:36:47,640 you know, they grew up together. And you know, they loved each 3248 03:36:47,640 --> 03:36:50,520 other. But they never had that, you know, they never had a 3249 03:36:50,610 --> 03:36:52,710 sexual relationship with dad come into 3250 03:36:55,080 --> 03:37:01,140 what question you say? First boyfriend. I'm just damned. 3251 03:37:01,140 --> 03:37:04,740 Okay, we'll continue. I just want to clarify matters do each 3252 03:37:04,740 --> 03:37:07,620 other, but they never had that, you know, they never had a 3253 03:37:07,680 --> 03:37:10,710 sexual relationship. But they had come into that age where now 3254 03:37:10,710 --> 03:37:15,750 that was a possibility. And then Jada was with me, you know? So, 3255 03:37:15,840 --> 03:37:20,100 you know, pocket a little thing on that. But she just loved him. 3256 03:37:20,100 --> 03:37:23,760 Like he was the image of perfection. But she was with the 3257 03:37:23,760 --> 03:37:26,220 Fresh Prince, you know, so it was 3258 03:37:26,520 --> 03:37:29,550 an image of perfectionist. I never could with this interview 3259 03:37:29,550 --> 03:37:32,490 with this Breakfast Club. Yes. And this is from when 3260 03:37:33,330 --> 03:37:37,920 this was from, I want to say 2016 17 Somewhere around there. 3261 03:37:38,310 --> 03:37:40,890 But but he just says something really critical here. 3262 03:37:40,920 --> 03:37:45,030 She just loved him like he was the image of perfection. 3263 03:37:46,530 --> 03:37:50,940 So to Tupac was the image of perfection that's will speaking 3264 03:37:50,940 --> 03:37:53,670 not Jada. That's Wilson that is that. 3265 03:37:55,320 --> 03:37:59,880 She just loved him. Like he was the image of perfection. But she 3266 03:37:59,880 --> 03:38:04,590 was with the Fresh Prince. You know, so it was like, I just I 3267 03:38:04,590 --> 03:38:07,500 never could like even we were in a room together a couple of 3268 03:38:07,500 --> 03:38:10,530 times. I couldn't speak to him, you know? And you know, he 3269 03:38:10,530 --> 03:38:13,530 wasn't gonna speak to me if I wasn't gonna speak to him. I 3270 03:38:13,530 --> 03:38:15,780 would have so much in common. No, that's how Jada was saying 3271 03:38:15,810 --> 03:38:18,300 all the time. She's like, I'm telling you Y'all are so 3272 03:38:18,300 --> 03:38:21,330 similar. You will you love them. And I just never stopped you 3273 03:38:21,330 --> 03:38:21,570 know. 3274 03:38:23,160 --> 03:38:27,570 Red flag. Fellas. If y'all want me to say another man, you have 3275 03:38:27,570 --> 03:38:29,400 so much in common it was in her past. 3276 03:38:31,770 --> 03:38:34,140 That's a huge red flag. Like 3277 03:38:35,550 --> 03:38:37,890 just put it out there. Clip 3278 03:38:40,740 --> 03:38:43,980 This is dropkicks with a red dash alpha message and too far. 3279 03:38:44,010 --> 03:38:44,610 That's right. 3280 03:38:46,380 --> 03:38:48,840 No, that's what Jada was saying all the time. She was like, I'm 3281 03:38:48,840 --> 03:38:52,020 telling you Y'all are so similar. You will you love them. 3282 03:38:52,020 --> 03:38:55,980 And I just never, you know, that was a huge regret of mine. I 3283 03:38:55,980 --> 03:38:59,040 just didn't. I couldn't I couldn't handle it. You know, I 3284 03:38:59,040 --> 03:39:02,670 was just, I was the soft rapper from Philly and he was popped 3285 03:39:02,670 --> 03:39:07,440 right? This song about you and nothing. Exactly, exactly. But 3286 03:39:07,440 --> 03:39:15,450 ya know, I was deeply, deeply insecure. And just I wasn't mad 3287 03:39:15,450 --> 03:39:16,830 enough to handle that relationship. 3288 03:39:16,920 --> 03:39:24,810 Oh, okay, now didn't. Chris Rock and Jada Pinkett Smith also have 3289 03:39:24,810 --> 03:39:25,860 some stuff together? 3290 03:39:26,580 --> 03:39:27,540 I don't think so. 3291 03:39:28,050 --> 03:39:30,510 I thought there was some rumors about him when they were working 3292 03:39:30,510 --> 03:39:32,010 together somewhere from way back 3293 03:39:32,430 --> 03:39:36,120 no no more Anthony was in with me. I don't think Chris Rock but 3294 03:39:36,120 --> 03:39:44,430 I think it was more of Chris Rock was the sacrificial lamb to 3295 03:39:44,430 --> 03:39:49,920 let all frustrations It was like he was gonna smack you let 3296 03:39:49,920 --> 03:39:52,470 everybody else know stop playing with me and my name kind of 3297 03:39:52,470 --> 03:39:52,890 thing. He 3298 03:39:52,890 --> 03:39:57,240 embodied every everything that will couldn't be because he was 3299 03:39:57,240 --> 03:39:58,680 the soft good rapper. 3300 03:39:59,160 --> 03:40:01,380 Right so let me pick Go on the weaker guy than me 3301 03:40:01,410 --> 03:40:04,710 Chris was who was smaller than him to significantly Yeah. 3302 03:40:06,930 --> 03:40:09,360 Very glad Kristen had that bookbag without breaking it. 3303 03:40:09,390 --> 03:40:17,010 It's almost like but now let's go back to Quincy Jones and 3304 03:40:17,010 --> 03:40:18,990 listen to what really happened to Tupac 3305 03:40:19,140 --> 03:40:20,730 know Tupac. 3306 03:40:21,960 --> 03:40:25,110 That's a no is my daughter's fiance. He was gonna get 3307 03:40:25,110 --> 03:40:29,520 married. In fact, he died in her arms and lung stapled up. She 3308 03:40:29,520 --> 03:40:33,210 almost got killed on that too because she and Tupac when the 3309 03:40:33,210 --> 03:40:35,850 car she was supposed to be sitting next to park. This was 3310 03:40:35,850 --> 03:40:40,140 in Las Vegas, Las Vegas show and thank God Tupac. I called her up 3311 03:40:40,140 --> 03:40:43,440 and said I just hit a crypt and also I'll pick you up later. And 3312 03:40:43,440 --> 03:40:47,790 a car came by his car convertible with girls in it to 3313 03:40:47,790 --> 03:40:51,570 tempt him out of out of the car. And they pulled off and a guy 3314 03:40:51,570 --> 03:40:54,840 with a bow tie and machine gun took him out. That would have 3315 03:40:54,840 --> 03:40:57,240 been my daughter, you know, her car was behind and with the 3316 03:40:57,240 --> 03:41:02,640 security and he died in her arms. And she went through in 3317 03:41:02,670 --> 03:41:08,970 within a year and a half's time she lost Tupac she produced an 3318 03:41:08,970 --> 03:41:12,930 event for my record company request records and Vibe 3319 03:41:12,960 --> 03:41:18,000 magazine four minutes after that biggest mall got shot he was 3320 03:41:18,000 --> 03:41:22,740 that that thing he got killed by the Crips and Alia Alia was just 3321 03:41:22,740 --> 03:41:25,980 to stay live in our home you know we took it to Fiji stayed 3322 03:41:25,980 --> 03:41:28,920 at Tony Robbins house and everything and later she got 3323 03:41:28,920 --> 03:41:31,170 died that killed on that airplane accident it was 3324 03:41:31,170 --> 03:41:32,160 overloaded you know 3325 03:41:33,060 --> 03:41:34,230 wow man 3326 03:41:35,250 --> 03:41:41,850 you too much coincidence for me Q incidence write it down 3327 03:41:45,540 --> 03:41:51,750 I just can't solve that problem. God gave that one to me what 3328 03:41:51,780 --> 03:41:52,440 honestly, 3329 03:41:52,770 --> 03:41:54,990 I don't know I mean let me break it down for people that didn't 3330 03:41:54,990 --> 03:41:58,530 catch all that your daughter was supposed to be in the car to pop 3331 03:41:58,530 --> 03:42:02,580 but she doesn't and he gets killed then y'all planning the 3332 03:42:02,580 --> 03:42:06,810 party there Biggie goes to he goes out four minutes later he 3333 03:42:06,810 --> 03:42:09,570 shot and killed and then 3334 03:42:09,660 --> 03:42:14,100 you're hanging out in an Anthony Robbins with Alia 3335 03:42:14,340 --> 03:42:19,230 Alia he fluidly it down yeah magazine event now stayed at 3336 03:42:19,230 --> 03:42:23,070 Tony Robbins house and they're playing get overweight it and 3337 03:42:23,580 --> 03:42:26,940 crashes and crashes let me explain how this in my 3338 03:42:26,940 --> 03:42:31,470 conspiracy analysts might hi this is Quincy Jones the clean 3339 03:42:31,470 --> 03:42:38,820 up man. I got to ask. He removed Tupac out of wheels way he 3340 03:42:38,820 --> 03:42:43,350 removes Biggie out of Jay Z's way and he removes a layer out 3341 03:42:43,350 --> 03:42:44,250 of Beyonce his way 3342 03:42:45,360 --> 03:42:49,920 Oh, that was the one I was missing. Oh oh yeah, 3343 03:42:49,949 --> 03:42:53,399 if it goes nowhere, Beyonce is not Beyonce. 3344 03:42:53,490 --> 03:42:55,710 Q is the original drill rap guy. 3345 03:42:56,609 --> 03:42:57,449 He's the 3346 03:42:57,570 --> 03:43:01,230 real life Suge Knight and don't Don't get it twisted he is a 3347 03:43:01,230 --> 03:43:05,640 World Economic Forum member frequent Davos yep so don't 3348 03:43:05,640 --> 03:43:09,180 don't think he don't get busy we know how Davos get now it was 3349 03:43:09,180 --> 03:43:11,550 and like made a real gangsters. 3350 03:43:12,690 --> 03:43:17,370 Yes. I'm this is very this is actually upsetting to me. 3351 03:43:18,420 --> 03:43:19,590 I'm sorry. No, no, I'm 3352 03:43:19,590 --> 03:43:26,970 not no. But it's I have I put q on such a pedestal for his work. 3353 03:43:29,340 --> 03:43:32,220 Although vive magazine always bothered me that that always 3354 03:43:32,220 --> 03:43:34,680 bugged me I can't I don't I'd have to think about it since you 3355 03:43:34,680 --> 03:43:37,260 just brought it up in the show but I have to go back and 3356 03:43:37,530 --> 03:43:39,900 meditate for a bit and think about what are the things that 3357 03:43:39,900 --> 03:43:42,720 bother me because I was there I remember this whole launch 3358 03:43:44,280 --> 03:43:48,330 it's very polished. Right It was a very it was wasn't the source 3359 03:43:48,660 --> 03:43:50,340 grimy like the source so 3360 03:43:50,820 --> 03:43:52,710 Aleta was dating Jay Z. 3361 03:43:53,250 --> 03:43:55,380 Yes. Oh man. 3362 03:43:56,490 --> 03:43:58,980 Which they tried to say it was Dame dash but I think she was 3363 03:43:58,980 --> 03:44:03,240 dating both of them borrowing saying is for celebrity wise. 3364 03:44:05,160 --> 03:44:10,980 Beyonce picked up the energy that Leah had right right. Jay Z 3365 03:44:10,980 --> 03:44:15,540 picked out the energy that Biggie hair and Will Smith will 3366 03:44:15,540 --> 03:44:19,320 clear the way but this is my conspiracy analysts mind. Like 3367 03:44:19,320 --> 03:44:22,320 I'm not saying anything. I'm just telling you what pops in my 3368 03:44:22,320 --> 03:44:25,290 head when I hear this clip and he runs it down like that. But 3369 03:44:25,290 --> 03:44:28,590 yeah, I'm at the center all this and the thing about Quincy is he 3370 03:44:28,590 --> 03:44:33,090 loves to talk your jobs all you're saying he drops it all 3371 03:44:33,090 --> 03:44:33,840 you don't care. 3372 03:44:33,869 --> 03:44:40,769 So okay. So no, no, no, keep going. I'm just I'm processing. 3373 03:44:41,580 --> 03:44:45,450 So if you don't think he ain't he ain't gangster. 43 3374 03:44:45,690 --> 03:44:50,490 When Tupac started dating your daughter, there was a sit down 3375 03:44:50,490 --> 03:44:51,870 you had with him there was 3376 03:44:52,080 --> 03:44:55,860 a he wrote something in source magazines and stuff about this 3377 03:44:55,860 --> 03:45:00,300 very racist, very nasty and my daughter from her I've heard 3378 03:45:00,420 --> 03:45:04,590 rusty that took him out. And she's speaking Harvard. He's at 3379 03:45:04,590 --> 03:45:07,350 the end. But all my kids, I put the street in him, I made sure 3380 03:45:07,350 --> 03:45:09,870 he had the street. You have to have the street, man. I don't 3381 03:45:09,870 --> 03:45:13,920 care where you go Yale, Harvard, Georgetown, whatever. Street is 3382 03:45:13,920 --> 03:45:17,910 important. And I was born in the streets of Chicago in the 30s. 3383 03:45:17,910 --> 03:45:23,670 And in Chicago, with mafia everyday, dead bodies everyday 3384 03:45:23,670 --> 03:45:27,840 tommy guns, stole these piles of money in back rooms, like, 3385 03:45:28,500 --> 03:45:31,920 amazing. I want to be gangster till I was 11. I did just you 3386 03:45:31,920 --> 03:45:33,360 know, you want to be what you see. 3387 03:45:35,490 --> 03:45:38,940 You want to be what you have for golf course. Rashida, of course 3388 03:45:38,940 --> 03:45:40,170 forgot all about Rashida. 3389 03:45:40,980 --> 03:45:45,810 Yeah, and I have a story here that says he was a member of the 3390 03:45:46,110 --> 03:45:51,750 Jones boys, which was the black gangsters in Chicago. And I find 3391 03:45:51,750 --> 03:45:53,190 an interest the Jones boys. 3392 03:45:54,900 --> 03:45:58,320 Of what Jones's right Yeah, his own gang. They're nice 3393 03:45:58,560 --> 03:46:02,130 masking. They don't say it specifically, but gonna be 3394 03:46:02,130 --> 03:46:06,150 Quincy Jones in the Jones boy was he's the top Jones of the 3395 03:46:06,150 --> 03:46:10,140 Joneses. Ah, well, very interesting. Let me 3396 03:46:10,140 --> 03:46:14,760 say this, about that. From the music business in the 80s in the 3397 03:46:14,760 --> 03:46:20,520 90s, which is my period everybody was a gangster. This 3398 03:46:20,580 --> 03:46:24,420 and I'm not talking about you know, gangster rap. I'm talking 3399 03:46:24,420 --> 03:46:27,870 about gangsters. These the music business is filled with 3400 03:46:27,960 --> 03:46:34,230 gangsters. And, and I'm just using that term generally, but 3401 03:46:34,230 --> 03:46:37,860 you know, Benny Medina fits in there. Tommy Mottola fits in 3402 03:46:37,860 --> 03:46:38,280 there. 3403 03:46:39,270 --> 03:46:43,860 Mo ta had a guy around it. That was it was a white Italian guy 3404 03:46:44,400 --> 03:46:46,770 that will go and get the radio deals done. 3405 03:46:46,830 --> 03:46:51,420 Oh now, the whole the whole payola all that stuff. It was 3406 03:46:51,450 --> 03:46:56,160 it's always been a gaffe to gangster business. That's That's 3407 03:46:56,160 --> 03:47:00,540 why you know, because it was not the new one. But but you know 3408 03:47:00,540 --> 03:47:03,780 when you think about Quincy Jones his background Yeah, I 3409 03:47:03,780 --> 03:47:06,630 mean, you grew up that way you've got certain values that 3410 03:47:06,630 --> 03:47:11,340 are embedded in your mind and may be eliminating someone is is 3411 03:47:11,340 --> 03:47:16,050 quite normal in his ear and you do not survive all those years 3412 03:47:16,050 --> 03:47:20,610 without two things. incredible success and incredible power and 3413 03:47:20,610 --> 03:47:24,300 the two are not necessarily always tied together. 3414 03:47:25,259 --> 03:47:28,499 And Quincy Jones has been the gingerbread man throughout at 3415 03:47:28,499 --> 03:47:32,849 all he's he's almost made it I gotta give him his credit he's 3416 03:47:32,849 --> 03:47:35,909 almost made it unscathed. You know 3417 03:47:36,300 --> 03:47:40,200 until more facts are that of curry came along and expose him 3418 03:47:41,100 --> 03:47:47,610 quick cue listen I don't want no smoke when occlude leave me, 3419 03:47:47,700 --> 03:47:48,270 okay. 3420 03:47:49,290 --> 03:47:51,810 And we're happy to talk to him if you'd like to expand no 3421 03:47:51,810 --> 03:47:56,730 problem. Yeah, why not? Why not me this time que no problem. 3422 03:47:58,560 --> 03:48:02,550 So I know people may say this is a stretch where you talk about 3423 03:48:02,550 --> 03:48:05,610 mo Quincy Jones take him out to pot for 3424 03:48:05,610 --> 03:48:08,580 we'll party for 3425 03:48:08,940 --> 03:48:12,120 you to prove yourself over and over and he can never be to 3426 03:48:12,120 --> 03:48:15,450 park. Well, Kevin, you over exaggerate in this two part 3427 03:48:15,450 --> 03:48:24,240 thing. Did did Tupac. I know you are alive someplace. I think my 3428 03:48:24,240 --> 03:48:29,880 mommy really misses you. Can you please come back? Can you come 3429 03:48:29,880 --> 03:48:34,860 back so me and my mommy can be happy. I wish you were here. I 3430 03:48:34,860 --> 03:48:49,890 really do. Willow Whoa, what? Willow to kill them. What 9596 3431 03:48:50,880 --> 03:48:54,540 Willow never met to park. Why is this little girl writing a 3432 03:48:54,540 --> 03:49:00,840 letter to Tupac? Why is Will Smith's daughter writing a 3433 03:49:00,840 --> 03:49:02,010 letter to Tupac? 3434 03:49:03,840 --> 03:49:09,900 Does the timeline fit here Mo was that is Willow. Tupac? 3435 03:49:13,980 --> 03:49:18,180 Jada is talking to her daughter about how to pop man her horse. 3436 03:49:18,210 --> 03:49:23,760 Of course. That's enough to keel over my book. As a father, I'm 3437 03:49:23,760 --> 03:49:24,210 just saying, 3438 03:49:24,210 --> 03:49:27,240 Oh my God. We know. All right. All right. So the things I've 3439 03:49:27,240 --> 03:49:33,390 learned from this episode, one. Always be prepared when when Moe 3440 03:49:33,390 --> 03:49:37,140 does a show. Alcohol might be necessary when your heroes are 3441 03:49:37,140 --> 03:49:44,820 destroyed at the end. To Will Smith is a man who needs help 3442 03:49:45,330 --> 03:49:49,440 from men as fast as possible. I don't know if I don't know if it 3443 03:49:49,440 --> 03:49:52,830 can be done. Key needs deprogramming. He needs help. He 3444 03:49:52,830 --> 03:49:56,940 needs someone to open his eyes and to show him what's going on. 3445 03:49:59,130 --> 03:49:59,940 Three 3446 03:50:02,010 --> 03:50:09,030 Holy crap this is almost as bad as just how bad I mean this is 3447 03:50:09,480 --> 03:50:16,680 ultimate abuse and and and Quincy Jones has been a part of 3448 03:50:16,680 --> 03:50:23,160 this throughout the ages Yeah. Using the Sanur did have the 3449 03:50:23,160 --> 03:50:24,180 center of it 3450 03:50:27,300 --> 03:50:31,410 he said he was a gangster I'm just telling you and he's made 3451 03:50:31,410 --> 03:50:36,750 made no bones about it. Pun intended. About being a 3452 03:50:36,750 --> 03:50:40,560 gangster, Houston every interview it always goes back to 3453 03:50:40,560 --> 03:50:42,930 gangster gangster Chicago being a gangster. 3454 03:50:43,020 --> 03:50:47,700 So the so the slap heard around the world was probably nothing 3455 03:50:47,700 --> 03:50:52,530 more than, you know, decades, decades of Will Smith being 3456 03:50:52,560 --> 03:51:00,510 suppressing feelings, thoughts, issues, psychological stuff, and 3457 03:51:00,540 --> 03:51:01,500 he just 3458 03:51:02,760 --> 03:51:04,410 and just snapped 3459 03:51:05,790 --> 03:51:11,130 or he could be handled to snap me out to be made snap. Well, 3460 03:51:11,580 --> 03:51:14,430 you know, I can only imagine seeing some of those videos 3461 03:51:14,430 --> 03:51:16,890 which he didn't play the clips from. But I'm sure there's a lot 3462 03:51:16,890 --> 03:51:20,670 more verbal stuff that Jada was was throwing out there. And at 3463 03:51:20,670 --> 03:51:24,510 that moment, I couldn't even I can't even see where Will Smith 3464 03:51:24,510 --> 03:51:31,620 is so blinded with rage over previous issues surrounding his 3465 03:51:31,620 --> 03:51:35,820 relationship with with Jada, that, you know, Chris Rock might 3466 03:51:35,820 --> 03:51:38,730 have. He's black enough to look like Tupac black. You know what 3467 03:51:38,730 --> 03:51:43,260 I'm saying? I mean, seriously, it don't you think that you just 3468 03:51:43,290 --> 03:51:46,950 like you go blind with rage and you just see a black man and 3469 03:51:46,950 --> 03:51:47,460 it's like, 3470 03:51:47,460 --> 03:51:48,690 that's the laughter 3471 03:51:49,980 --> 03:51:53,130 the laugh laughter that did it. 3472 03:51:53,130 --> 03:51:54,060 Yeah. 3473 03:51:54,090 --> 03:51:59,610 Laughter for me. It was a that's enough. No, you're 3474 03:52:00,060 --> 03:52:04,410 right. No, no, it was double laughter The laughter about the 3475 03:52:04,410 --> 03:52:07,740 joke. Then when he slapped him. There was laughter 3476 03:52:09,120 --> 03:52:10,650 but what I got to do to get some respect. 3477 03:52:11,730 --> 03:52:15,210 And that's when he threw out the keep my wife's name. Ouch. EPEN 3478 03:52:15,210 --> 03:52:15,630 mouth. 3479 03:52:16,020 --> 03:52:19,530 That's an excellent point. Adam. That's an excellent point. The 3480 03:52:19,530 --> 03:52:21,360 laughter laughter the double 3481 03:52:21,360 --> 03:52:25,710 laugh holy mo Okay. Well, thanks, MO. This is this is. Now 3482 03:52:25,710 --> 03:52:29,910 I have something to talk to the kids about. You want to know 3483 03:52:29,910 --> 03:52:33,330 what's up? Come up on grandpa's knee. limitary. Back to podcast. 3484 03:52:33,330 --> 03:52:35,310 Let me tell you about Will Smith. Let me tell you what's 3485 03:52:35,310 --> 03:52:35,820 really going 3486 03:52:35,820 --> 03:52:41,400 on. Too many coincidences for me Q incidences, indeed, Q 3487 03:52:41,400 --> 03:52:42,990 incidences? Well, thank 3488 03:52:42,990 --> 03:52:46,200 you. Thank you so much for this that that this is I've been 3489 03:52:46,200 --> 03:52:50,550 waiting for this one. I had no idea it was going. And I'm even 3490 03:52:50,550 --> 03:52:55,770 more baffled at the end. But have clarity. And I love talking 3491 03:52:55,830 --> 03:52:59,550 with you about this particular topic. This was a lot of fun for 3492 03:52:59,550 --> 03:52:59,820 me. 3493 03:53:00,390 --> 03:53:02,520 It was a lot of fun for me too, because you filled in a lot of 3494 03:53:02,520 --> 03:53:07,020 gaps with your Hollywood experience. And with that said, 3495 03:53:07,050 --> 03:53:11,100 as I always say, pay attention to everything. And the truth 3496 03:53:11,100 --> 03:53:11,880 reveal itself 3497 03:53:11,939 --> 03:53:14,849 that is also proudly displayed on the back of every single mo 3498 03:53:14,849 --> 03:53:17,999 facts with Adam curry t shirt designed and produced by Roger 3499 03:53:17,999 --> 03:53:22,439 roundy. I'm sure these will be on sale soon, somewhere or maybe 3500 03:53:22,439 --> 03:53:27,389 you have to donate to get him. Speaking of such mo facts.com Go 3501 03:53:27,389 --> 03:53:31,739 directly to our donation page mo fund me.com or get a new podcast 3502 03:53:31,739 --> 03:53:35,789 app a new podcast app.com and boost us as much as they can. 3503 03:53:36,059 --> 03:53:39,839 We'll be back in 14 days from now with another. We can't even 3504 03:53:39,839 --> 03:53:43,229 call it a show. These are just straight up college credit 3505 03:53:43,229 --> 03:53:46,769 lessons of moe facts with Adam curry. Thanks again brother. 3506 03:53:47,849 --> 03:53:48,419 I'll see you later. 3507 03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:00,120 Oh