1 00:00:21,510 --> 00:00:26,160 More facts with Adam curry for February 16 2022. It's episode 2 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:31,680 number 76. Oh man, I've been looking forward to this one. As 3 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,650 everybody else. I'm Adam curry coming to you from the heart of 4 00:00:34,650 --> 00:00:37,170 the Texas Hill Country and it's time once again to spin the 5 00:00:37,170 --> 00:00:40,140 Wheel of topics. From here to Northern Virginia. Say hello to 6 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:42,360 my friend on the other end. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mo 7 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:49,620 facts Well, I'm always happy to talk to you. I've physically 8 00:00:49,650 --> 00:00:52,230 I've been better. You know, I've been battling the Rona for a 9 00:00:52,230 --> 00:00:59,550 week. But yeah, yeah. Other than that, it's about it's about 10 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,760 gonna be really careful. You know, because if if I die then 11 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,590 people like Ah, see, see? I didn't believe it. No, that 12 00:01:07,590 --> 00:01:10,590 would just be no good. I can't give anyone that satisfaction. 13 00:01:10,590 --> 00:01:10,890 So 14 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,980 if you die, the Weekend at Bernie's, you 15 00:01:19,410 --> 00:01:22,710 everybody, I'm just smiling the whole time and fantastic. 16 00:01:22,830 --> 00:01:24,210 Everything good on your end Mo. 17 00:01:24,660 --> 00:01:27,240 Everything is wonderful. Everything is wonderful. 18 00:01:27,900 --> 00:01:33,660 Hey, how did that the Kwame panel go? It went great. Now I 19 00:01:33,660 --> 00:01:37,650 went looking forward. Is that not recorded? Can I not get the 20 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:39,450 playback or is that only live? 21 00:01:40,049 --> 00:01:44,099 That was live and once it goes once you record it goes live and 22 00:01:44,099 --> 00:01:46,769 then you can go back and watch it on what we call the replay on 23 00:01:46,769 --> 00:01:47,969 the YouTube side. So 24 00:01:48,030 --> 00:01:50,850 yeah, it looks like that though. I couldn't find a menu. I don't 25 00:01:50,850 --> 00:01:51,570 know what I'm doing. 26 00:01:52,140 --> 00:01:57,210 Oh, it's well. Anyway, people out but tell people tell people 27 00:01:57,210 --> 00:02:00,690 what it was. Tell people what it was the laundry. It was valued, 28 00:02:00,690 --> 00:02:05,040 what it was, um, dirty laundry media from YouTube. Go look him 29 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,360 up. He contacted me and said, Hey, you want to be on a panel 30 00:02:09,990 --> 00:02:12,750 with Kwame Brown? And I'm like, hell yeah. 31 00:02:14,910 --> 00:02:17,700 No, you went let me check my calendar. hos I did 32 00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:23,520 not okay. No, because I tried to make any requests. Sam so if 33 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,490 anybody sends me a you know, you want to do this, but it was 34 00:02:26,490 --> 00:02:31,950 great for the profile of me and the show. Um, so went there had 35 00:02:31,950 --> 00:02:35,520 a great conversation around relationships and black 36 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,690 families. And yeah, you can check it out over there and on 37 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:43,320 on YouTube somewhere. We'll figure out how to get to and who 38 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,270 else was on this panel. It was Kwame brown me a dirty laundry 39 00:02:48,270 --> 00:02:51,870 media. And he had a couple of guests coming in and out during 40 00:02:51,870 --> 00:02:52,710 the conversation. Cool, 41 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:56,880 but and you were all remote though. Okay. Oh, excellent. How 42 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,500 many? How many people viewed it? 43 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,700 I'm not sure I didn't go back and check the numbers yet. I'm 44 00:03:02,730 --> 00:03:05,370 been been super busy. But look at you mo 45 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,810 I love seeing this. This. This. This gives me the biggest joy of 46 00:03:09,810 --> 00:03:13,470 all. It's like seeing an entrepreneur. Like bounce out of 47 00:03:13,470 --> 00:03:14,910 the gate. Excellent. 48 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,810 values coming from always the facts family is running on all 49 00:03:18,810 --> 00:03:24,570 cylinders. Uh, yeah. So in. Before we get into baggers, one 50 00:03:24,570 --> 00:03:27,780 say one quick thing. The biggest thing about this is people 51 00:03:27,930 --> 00:03:31,770 contact us about the last show. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I didn't 52 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,990 realize I was mad. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it was all worth it. Oh, 53 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,170 I mean, because I remember at the end, they were talking about 54 00:03:40,170 --> 00:03:42,630 it. And I think even after the show you and I talked for a few 55 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:45,840 minutes. And like, and you said, Well, if it helps even one 56 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,940 person to the amount of email, I mean, I know we got a lot of 57 00:03:50,940 --> 00:03:53,730 people copied us both on it, but I caught it. I got a couple, I 58 00:03:53,730 --> 00:03:56,370 think probably forwarded to you, but it must have been, like 59 00:03:56,370 --> 00:04:01,170 1012 1520 people all with varying versions of it, you 60 00:04:01,170 --> 00:04:05,130 know, like I didn't really understand like, how, what was 61 00:04:05,130 --> 00:04:09,600 going on and I gave me a moment to reflect. And that was and I 62 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,360 tried to explain that why I was able to explain it to Tina. I 63 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,170 said this was something this was like our last episode this was 64 00:04:16,170 --> 00:04:19,620 for men, you know, and we were doing something important for 65 00:04:19,620 --> 00:04:21,120 men and it hit home 66 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:24,570 if that silent killer man that that you know that harboring 67 00:04:24,570 --> 00:04:26,670 those feelings you don't feel like you could talk to anybody 68 00:04:26,670 --> 00:04:30,930 about it. So yeah, I'm glad it could help and it was women came 69 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,100 out they were mad as well. And anger is like their sex solid 70 00:04:35,130 --> 00:04:38,880 deadly killer. So but with that said, I guess we will crank it 71 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,930 up. Yeah, we got a little bag. Whoo. So we want to spin that 72 00:04:42,930 --> 00:04:43,230 wheel. 73 00:04:43,950 --> 00:04:48,720 Here we go. Full bag. He says back up. Don't want to get hurt. 74 00:04:49,530 --> 00:04:51,900 We'll have topics rounding around and goes where it stops 75 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:54,390 no one knows most. No, of course because we put some great press 76 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:59,790 together again the topic for Moe facts episode number 76. Is he 77 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:22,890 luck. Luck, luck, we love you smell smell me. 78 00:05:25,140 --> 00:05:29,640 It's that time again. Just let people know that are some 79 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,440 potluck. We do these shows periodically, where we take 80 00:05:34,740 --> 00:05:39,030 three, four or five topics just today I got four. And we're 81 00:05:39,030 --> 00:05:42,240 gonna just cover him like short segments. So I guess we can go 82 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,820 jump right into the first one and clip number two. 83 00:05:45,030 --> 00:05:47,070 Hello, hello hello and welcome to the 84 00:05:51,030 --> 00:05:53,970 Whoopi Goldberg on Monday, the longtime co host returned to the 85 00:05:53,970 --> 00:05:56,940 show, following a two week suspension over comments she 86 00:05:56,940 --> 00:06:00,570 made about the Holocaust on January 31 episode, and although 87 00:06:00,570 --> 00:06:03,900 she didn't directly discuss the controversy will be did tell the 88 00:06:03,900 --> 00:06:07,110 cameras that we're going to keep having tough conversations and 89 00:06:07,109 --> 00:06:11,669 in part, because this is what we've been hired to do. And it's 90 00:06:11,669 --> 00:06:15,809 not always pretty, as I said, and it's not always as other 91 00:06:15,809 --> 00:06:20,279 people would like to hear. But it is an honor to sit at this 92 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,119 table and be able to have these conversations because they're 93 00:06:24,119 --> 00:06:28,379 important. They're important to us as a nation, and to us more 94 00:06:28,979 --> 00:06:32,399 so as a human entity. 95 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,060 Now to refresh your memory will be received major backlash and 96 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:39,480 criticism on social media over her controversial comments, 97 00:06:39,660 --> 00:06:43,320 which she later apologized for on Twitter, and on the show 98 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,620 prior to being suspended by ABC news President Kim Godwin. 99 00:06:46,860 --> 00:06:51,930 Now words matter and mine are no exception. I regret my comments, 100 00:06:51,930 --> 00:06:54,720 as I said, and I stand corrected. I also stand with the 101 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,770 Jewish people, as they know and y'all know, because I've always 102 00:06:58,770 --> 00:07:00,450 done that. And after reflecting 103 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,540 on her suspension from the show will be took time to take 104 00:07:03,540 --> 00:07:06,120 everyone who reached out to her while she was away. 105 00:07:06,479 --> 00:07:09,869 I want to thank everybody who reached out while I was away, 106 00:07:10,079 --> 00:07:13,079 and I'm telling you people reached out from places that 107 00:07:13,079 --> 00:07:18,449 made me go Wait, wait was really okay. And it was amazing. And I 108 00:07:18,449 --> 00:07:21,179 listened to everything everybody had to say. And I was very 109 00:07:21,179 --> 00:07:24,869 grateful. And I hope it keeps all the important conversations 110 00:07:24,899 --> 00:07:25,409 happening. 111 00:07:26,850 --> 00:07:33,750 Oh, yeah. This is good. And I you know, I think that this is 112 00:07:33,810 --> 00:07:36,930 yeah, this is good to talk about this stuff. I want to know 113 00:07:36,930 --> 00:07:38,970 exactly what you think about all this? 114 00:07:39,090 --> 00:07:43,020 Where are you gonna get exactly what I think. As always, cuz 115 00:07:43,020 --> 00:07:47,790 this is one of those topics where you can't be honest about 116 00:07:47,850 --> 00:07:50,880 on the mainstream media. And this is not going to get into 117 00:07:51,630 --> 00:07:54,750 personally what would be saying and why it was wrong. I'll touch 118 00:07:54,750 --> 00:07:59,820 on that. But I want to cover how the media how she was handled in 119 00:07:59,820 --> 00:08:02,280 the media, because we always talk about I mean, when she was 120 00:08:02,340 --> 00:08:07,320 away. Yes, yes. wish she was away away. How and how 121 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,110 enlightened and delightful It was to be suspended. You know, 122 00:08:10,110 --> 00:08:13,800 she couldn't even that go to show you that. She couldn't even 123 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,090 show that she was maybe angry or, or felt some kind of way 124 00:08:18,090 --> 00:08:22,860 about being suspended. Like it was a total refresher like being 125 00:08:22,860 --> 00:08:27,390 at a spa. It was like, yeah, it was a total, like, joyous 126 00:08:27,390 --> 00:08:28,470 occasion. Yeah. 127 00:08:28,500 --> 00:08:31,710 So it was it was a religious experience, man. 128 00:08:32,460 --> 00:08:35,730 Right. So we'll talk about what she said and where she went 129 00:08:35,730 --> 00:08:39,540 wrong. And why she got up, but we're not going to go might 130 00:08:39,570 --> 00:08:44,790 normally. And I'm not gonna say normally 99% of the time, we 131 00:08:44,790 --> 00:08:48,570 usually go out and get the full clip and break it down that way. 132 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:52,920 But like I said, I want to get into the universe and the media 133 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,830 narrative around it and also talk about the relationship 134 00:08:55,830 --> 00:08:59,970 between black people and Jewish people. So good. Maybe the last 135 00:08:59,970 --> 00:09:00,330 show, 136 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,390 that's the third rail. No, seriously that that's the third 137 00:09:03,390 --> 00:09:04,230 rail, right? 138 00:09:04,290 --> 00:09:09,090 It is I say that in jest, but this may be you know, because 139 00:09:09,780 --> 00:09:12,480 you're not allowed to talk about it. And so we're gonna talk 140 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,640 about why you're not allowed to talk about it. Yeah, I 141 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,740 mean, I know I know. Black podcasters who won't talk about 142 00:09:19,740 --> 00:09:22,590 it on podcast 143 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,840 met one now so that we'll talk about it and that's the point of 144 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,110 it. Being a newly free man talking Well, I've always been 145 00:09:31,230 --> 00:09:33,840 free man talking but that there's no 146 00:09:35,070 --> 00:09:37,530 nothing that you only answer to your Creator. 147 00:09:37,949 --> 00:09:41,789 That's it. You know, I mean, before you know they could try 148 00:09:41,789 --> 00:09:44,219 to get you about the job situation but that's no longer 149 00:09:44,219 --> 00:09:48,329 hanging over my head. But um, yeah, so we can we can really 150 00:09:48,329 --> 00:09:52,229 talking about everything now. And that's, that's, that's the 151 00:09:52,229 --> 00:09:54,809 cool thing about being independent. So let's just go 152 00:09:54,809 --> 00:09:58,619 ahead and get into a clip number three, 153 00:09:58,980 --> 00:10:03,000 what the Goldberg has been suspended from the view for two 154 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,850 weeks after making comments about the Holocaust during 155 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,900 Monday's show where she said, the Holocaust is not about race, 156 00:10:10,050 --> 00:10:13,050 adding that it was about two groups of white people. So 157 00:10:13,050 --> 00:10:16,380 as we mentioned in yesterday's show will be apologized on 158 00:10:16,380 --> 00:10:19,200 Tuesday's episode after taking to Twitter on Monday night, 159 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,570 I said something that I feel a responsibility for not leaving 160 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,590 unexamined because my words upset so many people, which was 161 00:10:28,590 --> 00:10:33,720 never my intention. And I understand why now. And for that 162 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,530 I am deeply, deeply grateful, because the information I got 163 00:10:37,710 --> 00:10:41,190 was really helpful and helped me understand some different 164 00:10:41,190 --> 00:10:44,460 things. And while discussing how a Tennessee School Board 165 00:10:44,460 --> 00:10:48,960 unanimously unanimously voted to remove a graphic novel about the 166 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,910 Holocaust, I said that the Holocaust wasn't about race. And 167 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:57,420 it was this incident about man's inhumanity to man. But it is 168 00:10:57,420 --> 00:11:00,930 indeed about race, because Hitler and the Nazis considered 169 00:11:00,930 --> 00:11:04,530 Jews to be an inferior race. Now, words matter and mine are 170 00:11:04,530 --> 00:11:08,940 no exception. I regret my comments, as I said, and I stand 171 00:11:08,940 --> 00:11:13,050 corrected. I also stand with the Jewish people, as they know, and 172 00:11:13,050 --> 00:11:15,270 y'all know, because I've always done that. 173 00:11:15,689 --> 00:11:22,169 So when I became aware of this controversy, all I knew was, and 174 00:11:22,169 --> 00:11:29,249 I know that from from our conversations is row. That's the 175 00:11:29,249 --> 00:11:33,509 third rail. And I knew I knew that was much more third rail 176 00:11:33,509 --> 00:11:38,009 than I think any any of my friends know it. Except the 177 00:11:38,009 --> 00:11:41,699 Jewish ones, except the Jewish ones. But they, but they still 178 00:11:41,699 --> 00:11:45,119 don't understand exactly how it's the third rail for a das 179 00:11:45,119 --> 00:11:46,319 for black Americans. 180 00:11:46,770 --> 00:11:50,100 And while hopefully, after this segment will, will be a little 181 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:53,370 bit clearer. So I gotta make this make this crystal clear 182 00:11:53,370 --> 00:11:58,320 first, saying Jewish. It's like saying black and this aspect of 183 00:11:58,350 --> 00:12:02,460 Sure. There's multiple different variation of Jewish people, you 184 00:12:02,460 --> 00:12:06,810 have Messianic Jews, you have anti Zionist Jews, you have, 185 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,470 you're saying you have just the same thing with black, you have 186 00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:14,850 generalization, yet you have found a black, you have the A 187 00:12:14,850 --> 00:12:20,490 Das, you have Hotep. So you got Hotep. So this doesn't represent 188 00:12:21,180 --> 00:12:26,970 all Jews, or Jewish people. This represents the people that can 189 00:12:26,970 --> 00:12:30,090 make her come out and apologize. This is what we're talking 190 00:12:30,090 --> 00:12:33,360 about, and has that kind of power over what can be said and 191 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,730 what can't be said. Now, I'm going to take this time to 192 00:12:35,730 --> 00:12:39,390 explain where we messed up it. And why and why it was taken 193 00:12:39,390 --> 00:12:43,080 away. It was from my perspective, when she loves 194 00:12:43,260 --> 00:12:48,480 Jewish people in with white people. That ruins the whole 195 00:12:48,510 --> 00:12:54,240 narrative. Yeah. Because with now how it works in the media 196 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:59,520 not gotta keep stressing this in the media. When you say Jewish 197 00:12:59,730 --> 00:13:03,630 is kind of like were white but not white. At the same time, you 198 00:13:03,630 --> 00:13:05,550 know, they they're kind of like passing 199 00:13:05,579 --> 00:13:11,459 my my Jewish friends do not consider themselves white. They 200 00:13:11,459 --> 00:13:14,309 don't I asked him to say, No, we're not white, but Jewish. 201 00:13:15,449 --> 00:13:16,469 It's that cut and dry. 202 00:13:17,610 --> 00:13:20,130 But that's why I say it's similar to passing exactly 203 00:13:20,130 --> 00:13:26,940 because in we you operate in day to day, you can move about force 204 00:13:27,150 --> 00:13:28,470 it feeling that no, 205 00:13:28,620 --> 00:13:34,140 it's called Shape shifting mo it's called Shape systems. Just 206 00:13:34,140 --> 00:13:34,710 kidding. 207 00:13:35,820 --> 00:13:39,150 Well, what it is, is that when they go into business meetings, 208 00:13:39,150 --> 00:13:43,590 whatever they can be closeted. Now, here's my question about, 209 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,940 is it a race? Is it a religion? You know, cuz it's a weird 210 00:13:47,940 --> 00:13:50,520 thing, because she had this thing called secular Jews, or 211 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,150 secular Jewish people where they don't adhere to anything 212 00:13:54,420 --> 00:13:59,280 religious, but they're Jewish by lineage. So you have that one 213 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,070 thing, but like I said, we'll be where she messed up it by 214 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,880 lumping them together, when people are critical, white 215 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,770 people, quote, unquote, that lumps them in. No, no, no, no. 216 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,730 My protective tape around me, you took that off, and everybody 217 00:14:14,730 --> 00:14:17,010 kept saying, You sure you want to do this? And what she was 218 00:14:17,010 --> 00:14:20,790 saying was, it was about race, how we look at race of color, 219 00:14:21,570 --> 00:14:25,560 the social sand the, what it called? The social construct, I 220 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,760 believe with race. Yeah. It was two white groups against each 221 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,700 other. That's yeah, that's exactly what she said. Yeah, so 222 00:14:32,700 --> 00:14:36,540 that's where she messed up. Because when people are critical 223 00:14:36,540 --> 00:14:39,720 of white people, and you're saying the Jewish people can't 224 00:14:39,870 --> 00:14:41,190 edit the media can't 225 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:46,800 doesn't fit in with the violent white supremacy extremists who 226 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,390 want to kill Jews. You see, right, like Charlottesville, 227 00:14:51,510 --> 00:14:52,320 Charlottesville. 228 00:14:52,859 --> 00:14:56,159 Correct. So um, so we're gonna get into the second part of this 229 00:14:56,159 --> 00:14:58,439 clip, and then after that, we'll get into some history of the 230 00:14:58,439 --> 00:14:59,069 relationship. 231 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,840 Now Despite the apology ABC news President Kim Godwin announced 232 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,320 with the suspension on Tuesday nights and this in a statement 233 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,020 effective immediately I'm suspending Whoopi Goldberg for 234 00:15:10,020 --> 00:15:12,960 two weeks for her wrong and hurtful comments. While Whoopi 235 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,690 has apologized. I've asked her to take time to reflect and 236 00:15:15,690 --> 00:15:19,020 learn about the impact of her comments. The entire ABC news 237 00:15:19,020 --> 00:15:21,660 organization stands in solidarity with our Jewish 238 00:15:21,660 --> 00:15:24,120 colleagues, friends, family and communities. 239 00:15:24,150 --> 00:15:27,030 Yeah. Meanwhile, former co host Meghan McCain weighed in on 240 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:30,840 Whoopi his comments, reading on Twitter. I hate commenting on my 241 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,320 old employer because I have moved in every way a person can 242 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,260 move on. That being said, I am an activist against anti 243 00:15:37,260 --> 00:15:40,290 semitism and it is a big part of my life. The growing threat is 244 00:15:40,290 --> 00:15:43,830 real and violent and everywhere. I am heartbroken about what was 245 00:15:43,830 --> 00:15:44,190 said. 246 00:15:45,300 --> 00:15:48,210 Yeah, and here's how the view addressed will be his absence 247 00:15:48,210 --> 00:15:49,050 today. Take a look. 248 00:15:51,180 --> 00:15:54,600 Good morning, and welcome to the view. You all saw the news we'll 249 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,950 be we'll be back here in two weeks. Okay. Tara said mayor has 250 00:15:58,950 --> 00:16:02,250 returned to guest co host. So let's get to hot topics, ladies. 251 00:16:04,530 --> 00:16:10,080 It's the year it's muddy waters. I think at the end of the day, 252 00:16:10,290 --> 00:16:15,780 we have to educate elevate words that come to mind educate, 253 00:16:15,780 --> 00:16:18,510 elevate, will be has been around for a long time, I could 254 00:16:18,510 --> 00:16:21,600 appreciate that. She was humble about it, you know, the initial 255 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,300 things and like a wrong and strong, you know, but I think 256 00:16:24,300 --> 00:16:27,300 it's also generational. And like she mentioned living in black 257 00:16:27,300 --> 00:16:29,730 skin. It's just a different experience. It doesn't negate 258 00:16:29,730 --> 00:16:32,910 the fact that, you know, it's okay to educate ourselves about 259 00:16:32,910 --> 00:16:35,310 others. But we want that as black people learn about our 260 00:16:35,310 --> 00:16:37,740 plight. Ah, 261 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,220 it's weird that I'm excited about this episode. I'm not 262 00:16:41,220 --> 00:16:43,200 quite sure what it is like, no, 263 00:16:43,199 --> 00:16:49,409 no. Because we love dancing on the third rail. Yeah, both of 264 00:16:49,409 --> 00:16:54,089 us. And it's not to be in, you know, cinerary or just, you 265 00:16:54,089 --> 00:16:59,519 know, to provoke. No, no, and nobody else wants to talk about 266 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:00,329 it. Yeah, the problem. 267 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,140 Yes, thank you. That's exactly why we do this. And Malcolm X 268 00:17:04,140 --> 00:17:06,720 commanded us to do that. So hello, would just doing we were 269 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,010 told, I did want to say that. One of our one of our really 270 00:17:11,010 --> 00:17:16,590 good friends. She's a public school teacher, high school, AP, 271 00:17:17,100 --> 00:17:20,760 in Austin. And she's, you know, we're always laughing because, 272 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,520 you know, Hey, you are our favorite lib. tard. And she has 273 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,360 she's like, Yes, I am. And, you know, and but she's so open and 274 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:30,990 so willing to discuss and she's Jewish. So the only thing I want 275 00:17:30,990 --> 00:17:34,980 to say is in the past, not just the past 24 months and of the 276 00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:40,320 pandemic, but also through most of the Trump presidency, she has 277 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:47,820 been truly terrified of anti semitism, and they're coming to 278 00:17:47,820 --> 00:17:55,590 get all the Jews. And I mean, like, seriously beyond. Like, 279 00:17:55,620 --> 00:17:59,760 like, into hysterics, I've even talked her down a couple times. 280 00:18:01,410 --> 00:18:04,680 It's the same programming that we have, yes, we'll go through. 281 00:18:04,770 --> 00:18:08,160 So I just want to say, although not Jewish myself, that I have 282 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,620 paid very close attention to when you know, when friends of 283 00:18:10,620 --> 00:18:13,050 mine talk like that, I want to know and so I've had a lot of 284 00:18:13,050 --> 00:18:17,550 conversation. And so that, that just that fear that terror and 285 00:18:17,550 --> 00:18:21,210 so, you know, just to make it seem like we've done some 286 00:18:21,210 --> 00:18:25,710 homework on all sides. It's you have to humanize everybody, of 287 00:18:25,710 --> 00:18:27,750 course, in the whole, the whole conversation. 288 00:18:28,830 --> 00:18:33,060 Right. And like I said, this is about more about how it plays 289 00:18:33,060 --> 00:18:36,540 out in the media and why certain people can't say certain things. 290 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:40,470 Brianne, if you even noticed joy, Bihar was really short, 291 00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:46,200 with not being supportive. So I think this will be a good time 292 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,190 to get into the strain relationship between black and 293 00:18:50,190 --> 00:18:51,600 Jewish Americans. Yes, 294 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:54,270 the story of the relationship between the Jewish and black 295 00:18:54,270 --> 00:18:57,300 communities in America is complex with periods of 296 00:18:57,300 --> 00:19:01,620 division, harmony, hostility, suspicion and apathy. What are 297 00:19:01,620 --> 00:19:05,520 the historical roots of both the cooperation and conflict we see 298 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,490 between these two communities today? And how do we create a 299 00:19:08,490 --> 00:19:14,160 vision for a brighter future? In the late 18th and early 19th 300 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,250 centuries, Jewish opinions on slavery were in line with their 301 00:19:17,250 --> 00:19:20,940 white neighbors as the politics of the US shifted. Northern Jews 302 00:19:20,970 --> 00:19:24,300 increasingly opposed slavery, while southern Jews continued to 303 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:26,580 be sympathetic to slave ownership. Though there were 304 00:19:26,580 --> 00:19:30,330 notable exceptions. These included Rabbi David Einhorn who 305 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:35,160 in 1861 gave an anti slavery sermon, his congregation erupted 306 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,130 in anger and the rabbi was forced to flee to the north. In 307 00:19:38,130 --> 00:19:41,550 the early 20th century, the Jewish community's demographics 308 00:19:41,550 --> 00:19:44,730 and opinions began to shift. Jews migrating from hostile 309 00:19:44,730 --> 00:19:47,790 countries settled in North Eastern American cities, where 310 00:19:47,790 --> 00:19:50,250 they encountered black southerners fleeing Jim Crow 311 00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:53,910 laws and other forms of extreme racism. Coming from anti semitic 312 00:19:53,910 --> 00:19:57,570 Europe, many Jews recognized and drew attention to the parallels 313 00:19:57,570 --> 00:20:00,300 in the black and Jewish experience some Yiddish 314 00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:03,780 newspapers refer to violent attacks on black Americans like 315 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:07,680 the Tulsa massacre as pilgrims. However, even with these 316 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,740 positive developments division remained between black and 317 00:20:10,740 --> 00:20:13,680 Jewish Americans. Both groups were Lightning Rounds for other 318 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,280 people's hatred. And many Jews who aspire to assimilate or just 319 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,890 make a living. We're afraid of associating too much with a 320 00:20:19,890 --> 00:20:21,510 group so openly mistreated. 321 00:20:24,930 --> 00:20:30,510 So where's this from? This is from unpack on YouTube. So I 322 00:20:30,510 --> 00:20:35,400 figure I'll use anything YouTube. So sure. Government 323 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:42,090 approves right stamp is safe. But that is the thing that there 324 00:20:42,090 --> 00:20:47,220 has been this relationship between good mean, bad in the 325 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:53,580 sense of slavery. And we want to talk about there was a 326 00:20:53,610 --> 00:20:59,130 significant amount of percentage of plantations owned by Jewish 327 00:20:59,130 --> 00:21:04,260 Americans. And then when you go north, you had what we talked 328 00:21:04,260 --> 00:21:07,410 about in the last show these race riots, that was part of the 329 00:21:07,410 --> 00:21:10,590 clash as well. Right. Right. They are competing for the same 330 00:21:10,590 --> 00:21:18,450 resources. And you also had where this district did not 331 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,590 distrust but um, you know, it 332 00:21:22,590 --> 00:21:25,890 was it was, yeah, it was, but it was seen as bad as to associate 333 00:21:25,890 --> 00:21:29,700 with, as I heard in that clip, literally, because of where the, 334 00:21:29,730 --> 00:21:31,200 where the black man stood 335 00:21:32,820 --> 00:21:36,120 with distrust on other sides, because it's like, Are you only 336 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:39,240 dealing with us because you we share the same problems. But 337 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,450 once you're assimilate, right, then you're saying you're gonna 338 00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:45,810 turn your back on us? Right? What a distress comes, comes in 339 00:21:45,930 --> 00:21:49,800 between the strain relationship. So I think this is I mean, this 340 00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:54,660 we have five parts to this clip. So I think they did a really 341 00:21:54,660 --> 00:21:58,530 good job on pack of capturing what what it's like between it, 342 00:21:58,740 --> 00:22:01,080 and we could see some of the things that still exist to this 343 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,670 day. So if you want to go ahead and get into number six, we can. 344 00:22:05,850 --> 00:22:09,810 This distance remained until the 1930s, when the rise of the Nazi 345 00:22:09,810 --> 00:22:13,410 Party in Germany paralleled an increase in anti semitism in the 346 00:22:13,410 --> 00:22:17,100 US fearful and in need of allies, Jewish Americans sought 347 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:20,190 support and the black community was one of the few to join their 348 00:22:20,190 --> 00:22:24,000 cause. Black and Jewish success began working together to 349 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,300 challenge employment and housing discrimination, combat racial 350 00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:30,510 and religious violence and fight for inclusion in social and 351 00:22:30,510 --> 00:22:33,510 professional spheres. In the years following the Second World 352 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:36,420 War. The bond between the communities group Jews made up 353 00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:40,290 at least 30% of non Black Freedom Riders risking arrest 354 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,320 and violence for black solidarity. Jewish lawyers 355 00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:46,410 battled Jim Crow laws, while black organizations like the 356 00:22:46,410 --> 00:22:50,790 NAACP, whose founders included Jews supported the creation of 357 00:22:50,790 --> 00:22:53,970 the State of Israel. Black and Jewish Americans, along with 358 00:22:53,970 --> 00:22:57,060 other minorities led the effort to desegregate Medical 359 00:22:57,060 --> 00:23:00,150 Association's southern universities, businesses and 360 00:23:00,150 --> 00:23:02,880 community activities while working to introduce social 361 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,480 programs for the benefit of all members of society. While 362 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,330 southern Jewish support for segregation dwindled, the 363 00:23:09,330 --> 00:23:12,960 community was still torn over how to respond, Southern Jews 364 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,660 faced pressure from their northern counterparts to condemn 365 00:23:15,660 --> 00:23:18,750 segregation, but they feared that making official statements 366 00:23:18,780 --> 00:23:21,840 against segregation would result in retribution from their white 367 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,840 neighbors. Others argued that the community need not make 368 00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:27,420 official statements about a topic that didn't directly 369 00:23:27,420 --> 00:23:30,750 relate to the Jewish community. As a result, some southern 370 00:23:30,750 --> 00:23:33,630 Jewish institutions withdrew their support for National 371 00:23:33,630 --> 00:23:36,450 Jewish organizations that came out publicly against 372 00:23:36,450 --> 00:23:37,140 segregation. 373 00:23:38,490 --> 00:23:42,660 Hmm, I didn't know about this divide No, no at all. 374 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:48,060 In for people who don't know what's going on. The narrative 375 00:23:48,090 --> 00:23:52,350 is black people are hand in hand with Jewish people. And they 376 00:23:52,350 --> 00:23:55,620 share the same plight. And they're all on the same on the 377 00:23:55,620 --> 00:24:01,050 same on board with the same struggle. One thing is the 378 00:24:01,050 --> 00:24:05,460 NAACP. But we pointed out on the show I have ever seen. And I 379 00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:08,760 guess you agree, because I've laid it out so clear that even 380 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,560 the groups like NAACP were started or went or ran by Jewish 381 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:20,430 people. And what it does is this is and from my perspective, 382 00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:27,030 black people are on the bottom. And so anytime the bottom can be 383 00:24:27,090 --> 00:24:30,060 raised up and given certain privileges, everybody above that 384 00:24:30,060 --> 00:24:34,050 is going to receive a bump. It's kind of like the all time all 385 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,180 rising tide boats, right? So if you raise black people up, then 386 00:24:39,180 --> 00:24:42,600 we're going to enjoy that and you can't treat us any worse 387 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,120 than black people. So black people can be treated, treated 388 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:48,390 humanely, then that benefits Jewish Americans. That's kind of 389 00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:51,780 how the relationship goes. But the problem is, if we were hand 390 00:24:51,780 --> 00:24:56,310 in hand, as this kind of illustrated here, why don't you 391 00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:59,130 see the same amount of success? Why don't you see the same 392 00:24:59,130 --> 00:25:08,670 amount of Even just like the loyalty being reciprocated, why 393 00:25:08,670 --> 00:25:12,690 don't you see that? Why don't you see joy Bihar and go into 394 00:25:12,690 --> 00:25:16,080 the office to say, No, you can't fire me, you can't suspend 395 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,070 Whoopi, she's an ally. Because if the shoe was on the other 396 00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:23,790 foot and I have proof of this, but if the shoe was on the other 397 00:25:23,790 --> 00:25:26,970 foot would be we're going office. It's a no you can't 398 00:25:26,970 --> 00:25:29,160 suspend joy. She's an ally. 399 00:25:29,910 --> 00:25:34,080 That and I think that's probably also who will be is enjoy Bay 400 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,750 heart. It just seems like a two faced person regardless. But um, 401 00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:44,460 yeah, I mean, I, I think that she chose the job. And she 402 00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:46,830 doesn't feel like she has the power to do that in this 403 00:25:46,830 --> 00:25:47,580 situation. 404 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:55,920 i This is a reoccurring thing. Mm hmm. Where it's not that love 405 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,300 is not reciprocated, sure. So that's what causes the distrust. 406 00:26:00,300 --> 00:26:04,260 And then they also do this weird thing where even in this package 407 00:26:04,290 --> 00:26:08,610 that we have here it was the North people that were good and 408 00:26:08,610 --> 00:26:11,490 South people that were back, well, of course has that you see 409 00:26:11,490 --> 00:26:14,220 the same thing here? Um, so that's, 410 00:26:14,729 --> 00:26:18,809 so this is really just a subplot of the overall north south 411 00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:20,939 racial divide. 412 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,770 Correct. So that's, that's the thing. It's just, 413 00:26:26,580 --> 00:26:27,570 well, that's good to know. I 414 00:26:27,570 --> 00:26:31,470 mean, you don't you don't feel the love? Sure, feel the love 415 00:26:31,470 --> 00:26:34,140 coming back. And, um, 416 00:26:34,170 --> 00:26:37,230 but that started a long time ago, this love not coming back. 417 00:26:37,230 --> 00:26:39,000 But it seems like it's always been that way. 418 00:26:39,420 --> 00:26:42,510 Well, I'll say this from my studies. And I could be wrong. 419 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,030 I'm saying, but from my understanding of my studies, and 420 00:26:45,030 --> 00:26:50,370 my living this interesting experience, I'm basically Jewish 421 00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:52,740 people were the blue light for black people before they created 422 00:26:52,740 --> 00:26:59,700 the blu ray. Ah, seriously, that was a you know, um, you know, 423 00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:03,030 we'll keep them in line and that kind of thing. Interesting. And 424 00:27:03,030 --> 00:27:05,640 that's kind of how their game their way up the ladder. Well, 425 00:27:05,670 --> 00:27:06,150 okay, 426 00:27:06,180 --> 00:27:09,180 so my, the only experience I have with that, which is a, 427 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,980 which would immediately be deemed an anti semitic trope. 428 00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:20,520 But we both agree, we're going to dance on the rail. But I 429 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,740 literally saw in the music industry, this dynamic play out 430 00:27:25,740 --> 00:27:29,280 all the time, particularly with black artists, right up to 431 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,640 Michael Jackson, by the way, I know firsthand, like, shut up. 432 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,560 You can't go to the bathroom, stay in the limo. 433 00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:39,630 And that's the thing. And that's where it really plays out in 434 00:27:39,630 --> 00:27:40,230 entertainment. 435 00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:43,110 Yes, in entertainment, which is what we're dealing with. With 436 00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:44,730 Whoopi. That's exactly it. 437 00:27:45,179 --> 00:27:48,299 That's why I say let's focus on the media. And we can bring in 438 00:27:48,299 --> 00:27:53,159 entertainment as well, because anytime I'll give you a sample, 439 00:27:53,429 --> 00:27:56,279 when Bill Maher gets into trouble with black people, he'll 440 00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:59,369 bring a black person Oh, yeah, I'm a black person gets in 441 00:27:59,369 --> 00:28:02,849 trouble or say anything anti semitic. You can't find anybody 442 00:28:02,849 --> 00:28:05,969 around to come along and put an arm around and say, Hey, he's 443 00:28:05,969 --> 00:28:09,749 cool. He's cool. Alright, and then he even goes in further 444 00:28:09,749 --> 00:28:14,399 than that. Because if you have any association with anybody 445 00:28:14,399 --> 00:28:19,289 deemed problematic, you're done. He Farah Khan, Farah Khan is the 446 00:28:19,289 --> 00:28:24,209 litmus test to say, Oh, well, you've he could be simpler. Or 447 00:28:24,209 --> 00:28:26,579 you took a picture with fair comment your arm around him. 448 00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:30,959 You're saying I apologize now. Right? Are you you're you won't 449 00:28:30,959 --> 00:28:34,289 be able to work in this town kind of thing. And I'm just 450 00:28:34,289 --> 00:28:38,759 saying I'm channeling what? What has failed and seen. Now I'll 451 00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:43,769 say this. I have no problem with the music industry. The reason 452 00:28:43,769 --> 00:28:49,109 why is if you claim yourself a man, a fully autonomous man, 453 00:28:49,589 --> 00:28:52,259 when you sign a contract, you should know what's in that 454 00:28:52,259 --> 00:28:56,279 contract. Yeah. So I don't I don't know. Nobody can get you. 455 00:28:56,549 --> 00:29:00,029 Oh, I got God. No, you didn't get God you didn't read? You 456 00:29:00,029 --> 00:29:02,549 know, so if you can't have it both ways, you can't and that's 457 00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:08,369 gonna be a forewarning. That's gonna be a weaved into this 458 00:29:08,369 --> 00:29:11,729 whole episode, even though it's a potluck that you can't say I'm 459 00:29:11,729 --> 00:29:15,749 an autonomous person. And then say somebody's got you. Yeah, 460 00:29:16,259 --> 00:29:18,989 you feel I'm saying either you visit with that person or know 461 00:29:18,989 --> 00:29:20,759 what you're signing on to do business. 462 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,110 But this is as old as as the music business as them today's 463 00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:29,850 modern music business itself. We are going back to here so here's 464 00:29:29,850 --> 00:29:30,600 a Cadillac. 465 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:35,220 Oh, well, do you want me right into it? But Cadillac records is 466 00:29:35,220 --> 00:29:38,250 that great. Have you ever seen that movie? Of course, okay. So 467 00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:43,590 Cadillac records, so the whole thing Mary's they took payment 468 00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:47,580 in other forms, Cadillac closed those kinds of things, and then 469 00:29:47,580 --> 00:29:50,820 felt like they were done wrong. It's like, No, you should have 470 00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:55,290 known what was in your, in your contract. So for myself, always 471 00:29:55,290 --> 00:29:59,160 take the Howlin Wolf approach. Pay me what you owe me. It was I 472 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,890 saw I won't Here's the I don't want anything else but what you 473 00:30:01,890 --> 00:30:05,340 owe me because there may be some strings attached that comes 474 00:30:05,340 --> 00:30:08,940 along with that down the line. People don't know, Howlin Wolf, 475 00:30:09,450 --> 00:30:13,290 you're saying he was he was very independent in that way in that 476 00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:16,980 movie where he went take cars or clothes and nothing like that he 477 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:19,590 was just like, whatever you owe me pay me. Yep. And that's the 478 00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:24,270 that's kind of how I actually take part of that when I do 479 00:30:24,270 --> 00:30:26,700 business as well is like, I don't want anything other than 480 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:27,540 what we agreed upon. 481 00:30:27,630 --> 00:30:32,040 But it but to be fair, that was all learning grounds. So the 482 00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:34,920 people who were on the other side of the equation they have 483 00:30:35,610 --> 00:30:40,620 centuries of, if not more, of trade and business and 484 00:30:40,620 --> 00:30:44,430 understanding. And at that time that the near the talented black 485 00:30:44,430 --> 00:30:48,630 artists didn't have that. And so, you know, the only way to 486 00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:52,740 learn sometimes is to go through the is to go through the crap 487 00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:57,600 now that people can't look back and say, Hmm, hold on a second. 488 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,170 What can I learn from this? That's really inexcusable, but 489 00:31:01,170 --> 00:31:04,110 there's a lot who would completely get it out of it. And 490 00:31:04,110 --> 00:31:08,040 I think most of today's the modern hip hoppers, I think they 491 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,530 control a lot more than it used to be. No, no, Kanye doesn't 492 00:31:14,820 --> 00:31:17,130 know cuz he said it. Remember he said, and I don't know if you 493 00:31:17,130 --> 00:31:20,640 remember what he said. They signed me to deal on the 256 494 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,620 page contract. Right now. I'm saying 495 00:31:22,620 --> 00:31:25,680 I know I understand. But he's been moving for he's he's broken 496 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,270 away from that now, hasn't he? 497 00:31:29,550 --> 00:31:32,160 Yes. Well, I mean, the fact that he got I'm saying, but then 498 00:31:32,790 --> 00:31:36,240 until he got got, yeah, his mind. I'm just thinking in his 499 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,480 mind. And that's why I appreciate Kanye, because he 500 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,000 understands I signed the contract. He didn't blame 501 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,730 anybody. Right. But it was on entertainment. Let me just bring 502 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,190 up one point in the Superbowl since the newsstand. That's 503 00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:52,620 where yeah, yes, we know that they have fleas I saw 504 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,690 so with the Super Bowl. I'm gonna say it from the side. 505 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,140 Notice conservatives, they were got kind of bent out of shape 506 00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:03,780 about the Super Bowls. And it was I've heard terms like 507 00:32:03,780 --> 00:32:08,190 pornographic. Um, it was racial baiting that kind of thing. 508 00:32:08,430 --> 00:32:09,900 The halftime show specifically. 509 00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:14,040 Specifically, excuse me, let me for people to understand me not 510 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,740 going on about the suepo. But that was a big deal. Let me fill 511 00:32:16,740 --> 00:32:20,370 people in. So the Super Bowl Halftime Show was supposed to be 512 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:27,270 a form of reparations are atonement for the ill doings of 513 00:32:27,270 --> 00:32:27,960 the NFL. 514 00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:31,260 Yeah, this was why they hired Jay Z's Roc a fella to do the 515 00:32:31,260 --> 00:32:35,160 halftime shows and see we love black people. 516 00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:40,199 Exactly. But when they when it comes out and says, oh, when 517 00:32:40,229 --> 00:32:43,469 people come out and are critical of it, they don't take it to the 518 00:32:43,469 --> 00:32:48,449 record labels. They didn't go to Jimmy IV. To Interscope, no. 519 00:32:49,199 --> 00:32:53,039 Jay, it's like so why would you argue and fight and blame the 520 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,679 workers? Because there's all Snoop and Dre and all that where 521 00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:58,439 they work? I mean, people get upset about or not, and Jay Z 522 00:32:58,439 --> 00:33:04,529 was just a glorified prom event planner. Yeah, you weren't, they 523 00:33:04,529 --> 00:33:08,039 weren't gonna let you get any ownership. But my point is, the 524 00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:12,869 slings and arrows start with the workers ever goes to the they 525 00:33:12,869 --> 00:33:15,569 never blame their source. Yeah, that's not I think the main 526 00:33:15,569 --> 00:33:22,289 summoner Redfield, you know, Jimmy IV, all these people, they 527 00:33:22,289 --> 00:33:27,779 never get any blame for the the problematic or the perceived 528 00:33:27,779 --> 00:33:31,619 problematic nature of hip hop. It always stops to the arts, but 529 00:33:31,619 --> 00:33:34,739 like, when you stop it at the funding data, you wouldn't have 530 00:33:34,739 --> 00:33:39,179 these people. Right, and so I just guess that's a great 531 00:33:39,179 --> 00:33:45,389 illustration of Jamie Ivey reaps all the benefits when he gets 532 00:33:45,389 --> 00:33:47,879 none of the blame, because he lets his workers take the money. 533 00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:53,280 Right, but Dre does did get a piece of ownership in that in 534 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,650 that whole apple deal on everything with beats. 535 00:33:56,670 --> 00:33:59,970 No, he did. But I'm just saying he was out there worked when I 536 00:33:59,970 --> 00:34:03,660 mean by worker is on the stage. Yeah. You know, saying that that 537 00:34:03,660 --> 00:34:08,280 part of it. I didn't hear anybody critical of the 538 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,610 Superbowl. No, of course not. I get to the take it to the top. 539 00:34:11,670 --> 00:34:14,250 But you also would never just hear that in the mainstream 540 00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:17,610 narrative. That's just not going to be done. So even if someone 541 00:34:17,610 --> 00:34:20,280 could, because it's career suicide, they know it. 542 00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:26,460 So it's like, we're like we're Cannon Fodder at the end of the 543 00:34:26,460 --> 00:34:29,220 day. That's how we proceed. 544 00:34:29,220 --> 00:34:32,640 Listen, listen, we gave you Eminem. Can't you be happy? You 545 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,930 got a white guy? All right. 546 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,720 With him begging me to. He was like he was. Alright, Avenue. 547 00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:42,360 You're the only way I can take a knee. All right. What 548 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,820 was interesting is that Tina and I are watching and Tina's like, 549 00:34:47,850 --> 00:34:50,580 Oh, she's singing along. You know, she's white girl, although 550 00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:53,520 she's half Mexican. And she's like, Yeah, this wow, what a 551 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,510 great halftime show. And then, later, she's like, looking at 552 00:34:57,510 --> 00:35:01,080 Twitter. She's like, what does everyone What happened here, she 553 00:35:01,110 --> 00:35:04,350 she didn't get it. She just loved it. He thought it was a 554 00:35:04,350 --> 00:35:06,420 great show. She enjoyed it thoroughly. 555 00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:11,429 It was a great production. But that'll be another show for 556 00:35:11,429 --> 00:35:14,699 another day. I don't want to. I don't want to carry too long. 557 00:35:15,959 --> 00:35:20,849 It's just the fact that one and I'm gonna show you how this is. 558 00:35:21,389 --> 00:35:25,259 Once again, I don't blame anybody that whenever you sign 559 00:35:25,259 --> 00:35:28,199 on a contract, which is what you get whatever deal you make, 560 00:35:28,229 --> 00:35:32,279 that's what you get. I don't blame anybody for anything. But 561 00:35:32,279 --> 00:35:36,749 I want to just show how power works. Yeah, there's no way 562 00:35:36,749 --> 00:35:42,149 Jewish Americans will see. Beth Mettler, you were saying before 563 00:35:42,149 --> 00:35:44,639 me at the Super Super Bowl Halftime Show was a win, 564 00:35:44,699 --> 00:35:49,049 actually. It's like, Oh, we got we got to halftime, right? It's 565 00:35:49,049 --> 00:35:53,249 like, okay, we need about three owners now. Roster spots and 566 00:35:53,249 --> 00:35:57,149 then we can call it even about what you take. 567 00:35:57,780 --> 00:36:00,630 And maybe maybe one or two more coaching spots that would be 568 00:36:00,630 --> 00:36:02,340 kind of even I know that 569 00:36:02,670 --> 00:36:06,810 right? Because we want we want tangibles. We want something not 570 00:36:06,810 --> 00:36:12,570 some performative something that just looks you know looks good 571 00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:16,500 on the surface. We want actual institutional change. So I say 572 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:20,070 all that to say pay attention. You know what? emulate the 573 00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:23,310 greatest Ross will say you know, you copy what works it best 574 00:36:23,310 --> 00:36:28,710 house powers achieved and maintained. Learn from it. And I 575 00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:32,220 don't, I'm not a hater. I don't hate anything. As far as that, 576 00:36:32,220 --> 00:36:36,150 you know, if it's a win, it's a win. But I'm just saying to the 577 00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:38,250 people that are allowed themselves to be cannon fodder, 578 00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:41,730 stop being cannon fodder. So I guess we we kind of hung on that 579 00:36:41,730 --> 00:36:44,100 one a little long. So I guess we can go and jump into number 580 00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:44,460 seven. 581 00:36:44,579 --> 00:36:48,089 The growing northern Jewish population did not share the 582 00:36:48,089 --> 00:36:51,329 concerns of their southern counterparts iconic photos of 583 00:36:51,329 --> 00:36:54,689 Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel marching alongside the Reverend 584 00:36:54,689 --> 00:36:58,229 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. encapsulates the best of the 585 00:36:58,229 --> 00:37:01,589 black Jewish relationship at the time, often called the golden 586 00:37:01,589 --> 00:37:04,679 period between the two communities. Rabbi Joachim 587 00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:07,529 prince, who devoted much of his life to the American Civil 588 00:37:07,529 --> 00:37:11,489 Rights Movement, spoke just before MLK took the podium in DC 589 00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:15,269 to deliver his famous I Have a Dream speech. Black and Jewish 590 00:37:15,269 --> 00:37:19,109 Americans continued the fight for civil rights during the 1964 591 00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:21,809 Freedom Summer project in Mississippi, where Jewish 592 00:37:21,809 --> 00:37:25,259 activists joined others helping register black voters and join 593 00:37:25,259 --> 00:37:29,309 protests in front of courthouses. In June 1964, James 594 00:37:29,309 --> 00:37:32,969 Chaney, Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman were abducted and 595 00:37:32,969 --> 00:37:35,939 murdered for their fight for equal voting rights. The ensuing 596 00:37:35,969 --> 00:37:39,149 outraged pushed Lyndon Johnson to sign the Civil Rights Act The 597 00:37:39,149 --> 00:37:42,239 following month, while Jews still face discrimination in the 598 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,829 1960s. The ability for many Jews to pass as White still set them 599 00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:50,069 apart from their black peers. Jews had relatively greater 600 00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:53,399 access to education and finances, giving them more class 601 00:37:53,399 --> 00:37:56,459 mobility. These opportunities, combined, in some part with the 602 00:37:56,459 --> 00:37:59,489 healthy bonds between the communities enabled Jews to open 603 00:37:59,489 --> 00:38:03,119 businesses and buy property in predominantly black areas, a 604 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:07,109 degree of coexistence that sowed the seeds of discord. A Jew was 605 00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:10,949 now their boss, their landlord or their creditor playing into 606 00:38:10,979 --> 00:38:12,869 age old anti semitic tropes. 607 00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:19,350 Ah, this is that was great stuff. I didn't know about the 608 00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:23,880 the people who were murderers it that was the spark for the Civil 609 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,630 Rights Act. 610 00:38:25,110 --> 00:38:30,030 Yes. Now we've talked about the last show. And these shows are 611 00:38:30,030 --> 00:38:32,040 set up in a way. So 612 00:38:33,149 --> 00:38:36,149 yes, Professor. Yes, we know your curriculum is very 613 00:38:36,149 --> 00:38:37,619 impressive. Yes, you've always 614 00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:42,270 predict the whoopee thing. I'm just saying that it's 615 00:38:42,269 --> 00:38:46,289 supposed to be that way. That's exactly that's exactly what we 616 00:38:46,289 --> 00:38:46,829 want. 617 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,810 So why is it the all the 4000 lynchings that happened? Post 618 00:38:51,810 --> 00:38:56,550 slavery, that wasn't enough. But you're saying 3g Jewish people? 619 00:38:57,510 --> 00:39:01,050 We got to do now. And then what I'm saying? Yeah, I want to make 620 00:39:01,050 --> 00:39:06,120 this very clear. This is not about one group or the other 621 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,630 group because I bring the same heat and intensity of feminism. 622 00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:14,070 Yeah, how I'm saying black women signed on with him and got the 623 00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,020 short end of the stick. But it's not 624 00:39:16,050 --> 00:39:20,790 it's also giving me insight into Jewish Americans inside I didn't 625 00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:21,240 have, 626 00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:25,740 right that's the whole that's why I want to so same thing. 627 00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:28,530 When you when we come to the table and have these 628 00:39:28,530 --> 00:39:33,390 conversations, we can actually understand and say, hey, that's 629 00:39:33,390 --> 00:39:36,000 why you feel that way. You're saying okay, Seek first to 630 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,250 understand then to be understood. It's like, oh, now I 631 00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:42,480 get why. And you feel that way. And that's why I said they were 632 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,570 the Boulais before the Boulay because they aren't all the 633 00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:48,450 shops, they are all that mean in the net black neighborhoods, the 634 00:39:48,450 --> 00:39:51,120 shops do real estate, that kind of thing. And they had this 635 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,920 thing where not all but it was common, where you would rent a 636 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,190 fit. We forget what it's called. But basically, you buy a house 637 00:39:59,190 --> 00:40:02,040 but it wasn't a more So if you missed one payment, they could 638 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,860 take your house from our view, we like one payment, they could 639 00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:08,670 take your house for like rent to buy or something kind of similar 640 00:40:08,670 --> 00:40:11,760 that, you know, you lose your deposit base, or whatever you 641 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,920 put in, you lose it, and they would turn around and sell the 642 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,000 house. So I'm just saying this is what built into that tension. 643 00:40:18,299 --> 00:40:21,569 Yeah, that's the distrust right there. And again, you, you you 644 00:40:21,569 --> 00:40:24,869 were you were you were you were God by the Jewish man was a 645 00:40:24,869 --> 00:40:26,549 shitty contract that you didn't read? 646 00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:30,210 No, but you didn't. We weren't God, because we didn't read it. 647 00:40:31,170 --> 00:40:35,340 Understand it? Yes. This is what it's about talking about being a 648 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,870 man when you're a man or autonomous. I can read like you 649 00:40:39,870 --> 00:40:44,460 can read. I can do math, like you can do math. If I didn't 650 00:40:44,460 --> 00:40:48,180 read that contract, just like what your terms and services on 651 00:40:48,180 --> 00:40:50,760 your apps, yeah, what you said, Well, you just scroll down to 652 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,090 the bottom and check. And they come up to you, like, years from 653 00:40:54,090 --> 00:40:56,190 now, like you saw just your first kid. 654 00:40:56,789 --> 00:40:58,709 You're the humans human centipede. 655 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,750 That's, that's the thing, like, and that's why I carry myself 656 00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:11,250 like I do, because this feeds on the last show of, you can't be a 657 00:41:11,250 --> 00:41:14,850 victim. You know, that's why I rally so hard against 658 00:41:14,850 --> 00:41:18,060 victimhood, because when you say you're a victim, then you're 659 00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:22,920 saying you need help, right? Or you need you're saying or you 660 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,770 need and I know some I can read people's microphylla right now 661 00:41:25,770 --> 00:41:29,070 they're saying, but mo your for atonement? No, no, no, no. Let 662 00:41:29,070 --> 00:41:31,350 me make clear what I'm talking about. Tom, let me make this 663 00:41:31,350 --> 00:41:34,560 clear. First of all about atonement. I'm saying I'm not 664 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,560 voting for anybody until you have something for me. I don't 665 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,740 want anything from you. I'm not gonna I'm not begging you for 666 00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:43,380 anything. But when you want something for me, we're gonna 667 00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:46,680 have a transaction. See how that works. It's not all please 668 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,870 leafleting. That's why I want to get away from that word 669 00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:52,830 reparations. Because it lends to repair. Oh, I need you to fix 670 00:41:52,830 --> 00:41:56,820 me, please fix me, blow. I have something that you want, called 671 00:41:56,820 --> 00:42:00,900 a vote. And you have something I want. Called money. Alright, so 672 00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:04,680 we can have a fair exchange. But it's not that I want you to fix 673 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,440 me, then I'm a victim. So I just want to make that very clear. 674 00:42:07,890 --> 00:42:11,640 Yep. All right. Oh, sorry. No, no, 675 00:42:12,210 --> 00:42:14,490 that's actually the most succinct you've ever said it. I 676 00:42:14,490 --> 00:42:19,560 think it's, it's so obvious. And by the way, it's the way votes 677 00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:21,630 this way it works all over the world. 678 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,670 That's how business works. Now, we ain't no fame, no friends, 679 00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:29,520 and all we know, I'm gonna get you on the back end that can No 680 00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:32,609 I'll make you whole bro. Don't worry. 681 00:42:34,530 --> 00:42:37,350 We're gonna need to see something for it. So I guess we 682 00:42:37,350 --> 00:42:38,670 can go and get number eight now. 683 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,530 Throughout the 1970s and 80s. The bonds between the Jewish and 684 00:42:43,530 --> 00:42:47,220 black communities strained under growing racial tensions in urban 685 00:42:47,220 --> 00:42:51,180 America. Atlanta's first Jewish Mayor employed racist rhetoric 686 00:42:51,210 --> 00:42:54,240 in his reelection campaign against black challenger may NAR 687 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:58,590 Jackson. In 1984 presidential hopeful Jesse Jackson made a 688 00:42:58,590 --> 00:43:03,090 number of anti semitic comments referring to Jews as Jaime's the 689 00:43:03,090 --> 00:43:07,290 growth and visibility of the anti semitic Nation of Islam 690 00:43:07,410 --> 00:43:10,620 didn't help matters as the Israeli Palestinian conflict 691 00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:13,470 drew greater international attention division between the 692 00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:16,230 communities mounted as Palestinians were increasingly 693 00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:19,950 seen as people of color with Jews seen as white oppressors. 694 00:43:20,010 --> 00:43:22,950 And while many in both communities continue to cherish 695 00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:26,790 the golden period of the 50s and 60s, others began to portray 696 00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:30,270 Jewish support for civil rights as paternalistic and therefore 697 00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:34,230 just another form of racism. Tension seem to come to a climax 698 00:43:34,260 --> 00:43:38,820 in the 1991 Crown Heights riots erupted after a Hasidic man 699 00:43:38,820 --> 00:43:42,570 accidentally veered his car onto a sidewalk, killing seven year 700 00:43:42,570 --> 00:43:46,980 old Gavin Kato, the next day in retaliation. 29 year old Yankel 701 00:43:46,980 --> 00:43:50,160 Rosenbaum was stabbed and beaten by a group of black men. 702 00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:53,730 Rosenbaum died a few hours later from his wounds over the next 703 00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:56,820 three days. Rioters looted stores and damaged Jewish 704 00:43:56,820 --> 00:43:59,970 property. The violence of the Crown Heights riots touched a 705 00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:04,650 nerve for some the pain mistrust and anger continues to this day. 706 00:44:05,610 --> 00:44:10,350 I was in New York at the time and I was doing the morning show 707 00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:15,330 on z 100. When this went down, it was it was an intense time 708 00:44:16,590 --> 00:44:20,460 and a lot of the leadership that we so so called leadership we 709 00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:25,770 have now in the black community got caught up in that this error 710 00:44:26,430 --> 00:44:29,760 and saying things like Jesse Jackson said Al Sharpton had his 711 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,210 MO Jonas amazing now that they're still allowed to have 712 00:44:33,210 --> 00:44:35,790 leadership and maybe that's how they're co opted and 713 00:44:35,790 --> 00:44:39,000 compromised. Just give me a thought for a minute. 714 00:44:40,860 --> 00:44:44,970 Yeah, well, you know, when it comes to Al Sharpton you know 715 00:44:44,970 --> 00:44:50,070 it's it's what he has. He's like a protected man. You know, he I 716 00:44:50,070 --> 00:44:55,980 read that he actually had he blessed the Comcast NBC merger 717 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,930 that that they had some racial diversity equity. issues in the 718 00:45:00,930 --> 00:45:04,860 merger the SEC wouldn't approve it until his coalition network, 719 00:45:04,860 --> 00:45:09,210 whatever his thing is, until they'd blessed it and probably 720 00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:13,470 Jesse Jackson as well. And then Sharpton got his MSNBC show like 721 00:45:13,470 --> 00:45:14,520 six months later. 722 00:45:15,929 --> 00:45:19,049 Right. And that's my point is that that's the gas and brakes 723 00:45:19,049 --> 00:45:23,759 right now. It's the gas or we can use him, you know, or he has 724 00:45:23,789 --> 00:45:27,569 if he has the ability to cause them strife. Yeah. But they're 725 00:45:27,569 --> 00:45:31,499 not going to have him be able to completely leverage them. Oh, 726 00:45:31,499 --> 00:45:36,059 never No, no, you remember our don't forget the, you know, the 727 00:45:36,059 --> 00:45:39,179 those those statements that you made up in Harlem, but not the 728 00:45:39,179 --> 00:45:41,249 same. Same thing with Jesse Jackson, you know, when they 729 00:45:41,249 --> 00:45:45,299 really need to bring you in and rein you in. It's like, Hey, let 730 00:45:45,299 --> 00:45:48,479 me make Jesse, let me talk to you for a minute. I remember 731 00:45:48,479 --> 00:45:51,989 that tape. And it's the same way now. It's like, hey, who went 732 00:45:51,989 --> 00:45:54,359 fill in the blank? You remember you was at Farah Khan's 733 00:45:54,839 --> 00:45:59,339 festival? Yeah, fair Khan's to go to now. He's the ne ne but 734 00:45:59,339 --> 00:46:03,899 he's so toxic. And we've seen this with Tamika Mallory that 735 00:46:04,019 --> 00:46:07,679 she had to go on. They actually put her down to the BIA who's 736 00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:12,959 Tamika Mallory. She's the one. She's one. She is the she's the 737 00:46:12,959 --> 00:46:17,549 heir apparent of Al Sharpton. I mean, tow. 738 00:46:17,610 --> 00:46:22,200 Ah, yes. We. He sent me a YouTube of her the other day. 739 00:46:22,650 --> 00:46:23,670 Right? Yeah. So 740 00:46:23,669 --> 00:46:29,429 she she she's the heir apparent, but also, um, she had gotten in 741 00:46:29,429 --> 00:46:32,339 trouble with Linda Sarsour. I think it's how you pronounce her 742 00:46:32,339 --> 00:46:32,699 name? Yeah, 743 00:46:32,699 --> 00:46:39,959 yeah. Democratic socialists No, wait. Yes. Isn't she the one 744 00:46:39,959 --> 00:46:43,229 that's trying to infiltrate with the DSA with the 745 00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:47,670 ah, she was she was big on the anti pattern of the pro 746 00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:50,640 Palestine stuff. Yes. I think she's a Muslim. 747 00:46:50,849 --> 00:46:52,319 She is yes. Yeah. 748 00:46:52,530 --> 00:46:56,340 We once again goes back to with the whole Jewish thing is your 749 00:46:56,340 --> 00:46:59,280 are your race or religion? Because when we talk about 750 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,570 Muslims, it's like, Nah, um, I think it's Arab. I don't want to 751 00:47:03,570 --> 00:47:07,170 offend anybody. But I think we you're from that region of the 752 00:47:07,170 --> 00:47:12,720 world because Middle Eastern, you're where you are from the 753 00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:17,640 area, but you are not of the faith. Is there a distinction? 754 00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:20,850 Yeah. Have that with the Jewish situation? 755 00:47:21,179 --> 00:47:25,109 To Mika's parents were founding members of sharpens National 756 00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:27,359 Action Network, correct? No. 757 00:47:28,170 --> 00:47:32,430 So that's what I'm saying her association with a with Farah 758 00:47:32,430 --> 00:47:33,990 Khan, is her 759 00:47:34,409 --> 00:47:37,619 tomorrow mechanism. Right, right, of course. 760 00:47:37,949 --> 00:47:41,759 Because anytime we need to get you back in line we can use Hey, 761 00:47:41,759 --> 00:47:47,339 you remember, we found this picture of Tamika Mallory with 762 00:47:47,339 --> 00:47:51,089 farecard it just popped up all of a sudden, interesting. I was 763 00:47:51,089 --> 00:47:54,569 even though it's 10 years old. I know. Let's get that server 764 00:47:54,569 --> 00:47:57,869 circulating on the internet again. Oh, yes. So 765 00:47:58,619 --> 00:48:01,469 it's interesting. I'm looking forward now if it's on YouTube, 766 00:48:01,469 --> 00:48:02,309 I don't think so. 767 00:48:03,390 --> 00:48:05,130 Oh, they'll scrub it because they need it. They can't. 768 00:48:09,150 --> 00:48:10,530 They gotta drop the one it's hot. 769 00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:15,810 Unpack five. 770 00:48:16,380 --> 00:48:19,890 More recently, old wounds were reopened when voices within 771 00:48:19,890 --> 00:48:22,650 movements like Black Lives Matter and the Women's March 772 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,730 made anti semitic and anti Zionist remarks in 2019 773 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,850 extremist connected to the Black Hebrew Israelite movement were 774 00:48:29,850 --> 00:48:33,120 responsible for the murder of four people including two Jews 775 00:48:33,150 --> 00:48:36,750 at a Jersey City synagogue and kosher supermarket. For some 776 00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:39,870 these are simply isolated incidents. For others. This 777 00:48:39,870 --> 00:48:43,200 violence points to a broader, unacknowledged anti semitism 778 00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:46,470 reflected in anti Defamation League polls that find black 779 00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:49,830 Americans are significantly more likely than white Americans to 780 00:48:49,830 --> 00:48:53,910 accept anti semitic stereotypes. Despite these ongoing tensions, 781 00:48:53,970 --> 00:48:57,540 the communities continue to find common ground a shared sense of 782 00:48:57,540 --> 00:49:01,530 fear and urgency after the 2017 unite the right rally in 783 00:49:01,530 --> 00:49:04,740 Charlottesville, alarmed both communities and triggered a rise 784 00:49:04,740 --> 00:49:08,100 in collaboration between some Jewish and black organizers and 785 00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:12,360 activists in 2019. The late John Lewis, along with congressional 786 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,450 representatives formed the Bipartisan Congressional Caucus 787 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,320 on black Jewish relations, which now consists of 55 members. 788 00:49:19,620 --> 00:49:23,220 Today's efforts at cooperation always fall under the shadow 789 00:49:23,220 --> 00:49:27,210 cast by the traumas of racism and anti semitism, pain and 790 00:49:27,210 --> 00:49:30,870 mistrust. But there is tremendous hope. One year after 791 00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:33,990 the Jersey City murders, numbers of both communities say the 792 00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:36,540 violence has forced them to leave their respective bubbles 793 00:49:36,540 --> 00:49:39,960 and confront difficult issues together a model relevant well 794 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,920 beyond Jersey City. As Pamela Johnson of the Jersey City anti 795 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,040 violence coalition Movement said we may not have always 796 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,010 understood each other, but we are all in this together. 797 00:49:51,809 --> 00:49:54,749 Hmm. I wonder if there's a way out. 798 00:49:56,340 --> 00:49:59,850 Sit down and have a conversation that's about it. Right? And if 799 00:49:59,850 --> 00:50:04,860 they My point is this we're not talking about all on both sides. 800 00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:09,000 We're talking about because there's Messianic Jews, there's 801 00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:12,630 anti Zionist Jewish people. Yeah, cuz they get just as much 802 00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:16,710 more smoke, because they're seen as the quote unquote, sellout of 803 00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:19,410 their group. It's like, I'm saying, how are you going to go 804 00:50:19,410 --> 00:50:19,620 again? 805 00:50:20,070 --> 00:50:22,440 It's, it's a form of colorism. 806 00:50:23,309 --> 00:50:27,629 Yeah. So let me let me let me we said a couple of things. We said 807 00:50:27,629 --> 00:50:30,839 in that clip, one, that the Charlottesville thing was the 808 00:50:31,289 --> 00:50:36,359 maybe be the source of the renewed anxiety that you spoke 809 00:50:36,359 --> 00:50:40,499 to before this, your friend was feeling it because it's the 810 00:50:40,499 --> 00:50:47,309 right propaganda in my control, and he spells work is to say, it 811 00:50:47,309 --> 00:50:51,029 works like, Hey, you can't you can't say it doesn't work. But 812 00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:54,689 the way you the way you defuse it is you have to unpack that 813 00:50:54,689 --> 00:50:58,829 conversation. Now. We talked about the money and getting 814 00:50:58,829 --> 00:51:02,279 caught and that kind of thing. But there's another thing that 815 00:51:02,279 --> 00:51:05,429 we haven't talked about yet. And it's about who's the real juice. 816 00:51:06,629 --> 00:51:11,189 Mm hmm. Who's the real Jewish people? Because and that's why 817 00:51:11,189 --> 00:51:13,979 they brought up these Black Hebrew Israelites group. 818 00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:16,830 Yeah, that was that was on my list. Yes. 819 00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:23,969 So so what we got it. You have black people, some black people 820 00:51:23,969 --> 00:51:28,199 that believe that we are the chosen people, just by what is 821 00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:31,739 written in the Bible. You look at the curse of Deuteronomy 28. 822 00:51:31,979 --> 00:51:36,599 Like, yep, yep. Yep. Yep, that sounds like this. Oh, 823 00:51:36,869 --> 00:51:40,169 I'll have to read that. Now. Let's hold on a second. Dude, 824 00:51:40,169 --> 00:51:41,069 your nominee, what? 825 00:51:41,250 --> 00:51:44,850 Deuteronomy 28. So it goes down the curses of the chosen people. 826 00:51:45,090 --> 00:51:47,070 And when you look at some of that stuff in there, it's like, 827 00:51:47,070 --> 00:51:51,540 Hmm, that's very interesting. And then like I said, we all 828 00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:54,120 people do this even in China, you know, saying they say Christ 829 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,830 is Chinese. They show Christ as Chinese or Asian. Interesting, 830 00:51:58,830 --> 00:52:02,190 that kind of thing. So you have this going on. But this is 831 00:52:02,190 --> 00:52:07,680 another real thing of a significant number of black 832 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,540 people think Jesus is black and yeah, shrinks did that makes the 833 00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:16,080 Jewish people have to be black? Just by association, right? Oh, 834 00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:19,529 it's highly unlikely Jesus was a white guy. That doesn't seem 835 00:52:19,529 --> 00:52:20,969 very, very logical. 836 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,020 That's that's the issue of it. So it's like, well, hold on. 837 00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:28,410 Now, this doesn't make any sense. But my point is this. So 838 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:33,090 I noticed on YouTube, they let these Black Hebrew Israelites 839 00:52:33,090 --> 00:52:35,070 and I'm not talking about the brother cuz I got some friends 840 00:52:35,070 --> 00:52:37,500 that are black, Hebrew Israelites. So I'm not talking 841 00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:39,630 about them. I'm talking about the ones that stand on the 842 00:52:39,630 --> 00:52:44,190 corner of New York and DC and these places, and that year, the 843 00:52:44,190 --> 00:52:53,430 most vile is racist. I'm just crazy stuff. But you too, don't 844 00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:56,730 take them off. It's like, Hold on. Wait, wait a minute. Wait a 845 00:52:56,730 --> 00:53:01,080 minute. You you get removed for this, like this might get 846 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,900 removed? I mean, I'm just I'm I'm thinking about not even 847 00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:08,520 posting. This is how it really is. Seriously, we're just 848 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,930 letting people know if you don't see it on us. 849 00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:12,840 Yeah, well, I kind of I kind of want to know if it gets taken 850 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,870 down. That would be highly surprising. But you 851 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,110 know, it wouldn't be surprising because that's what I'm saying. 852 00:53:19,110 --> 00:53:24,420 That's YouTube's policy. It's like we have a no anti semitism 853 00:53:24,450 --> 00:53:27,810 policy. But yet and still, you have these Black Hebrew 854 00:53:27,810 --> 00:53:31,350 Israelites. It's like a caricature of them. They stand 855 00:53:31,350 --> 00:53:34,590 on the corner and they're allowed to yell all these crazy 856 00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:38,400 names, but they don't get taken down. So it's like is this 857 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,780 working for your benefit? But 858 00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:42,480 who are they who are they yelling against black people 859 00:53:42,510 --> 00:53:45,390 Jewish know what white people in general 860 00:53:45,389 --> 00:53:48,779 but they are saying they go at Jewish people even harder, but 861 00:53:48,779 --> 00:53:51,929 nobody takes them now they understand like in but the point 862 00:53:51,929 --> 00:53:55,259 is just take it from YouTube for a minute. They're in like Times 863 00:53:55,259 --> 00:53:58,469 Square Washington DC, just standing on the street corner. 864 00:53:58,739 --> 00:54:03,299 Yeah, I'm doing this and it's like how are you? I have to 865 00:54:03,299 --> 00:54:10,229 think is this beneficial to you're saying to submit see me 866 00:54:10,289 --> 00:54:12,809 the fact that you know saying this, this this Hey, is this out 867 00:54:12,809 --> 00:54:17,099 here? Right you know is used for their their advantage? Because I 868 00:54:17,429 --> 00:54:20,459 just find it weird what they do take now and they leave that up? 869 00:54:21,269 --> 00:54:24,389 I'm just just strange. It's a strange just 870 00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:28,020 the judge doesn't help the Brotherhood come together thing 871 00:54:28,020 --> 00:54:28,350 any? 872 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,030 No. And what it does is it makes everybody saying say they 873 00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:36,750 subscribe to you know, saying black people being the people or 874 00:54:36,750 --> 00:54:40,860 the book or the Bible. My Oh, yeah, he's one of them. Hate for 875 00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:44,940 people. It was just like with anything like black say, I'll 876 00:54:44,940 --> 00:54:48,210 give you I'll give you a great parallel. White nationalist, 877 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,650 right. Are black nationalists. Just say you're a black 878 00:54:52,650 --> 00:54:55,350 nationalist. It's like, oh, you're one of those like your 879 00:54:55,350 --> 00:54:58,200 right wing white nationalists but just black. Right? It's 880 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,690 like, but we clearly stand in Malcolm Max was a black 881 00:55:00,690 --> 00:55:03,660 nationalist meaning in the definition he says, you know, 882 00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:06,780 saying we need to create our own things. We need to have our own 883 00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:10,080 things. But you see by association, you can be 884 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:15,390 demonized. Yes, of course. So I'm just wondering why they're 885 00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:19,590 allowed to be left up there on YouTube. And they're never taken 886 00:55:19,590 --> 00:55:23,460 down an issue. I find that to be convenient. 887 00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:28,589 As I say, it's it's total bullshit. If you want to make 888 00:55:28,589 --> 00:55:32,069 the world a better place. Yes. Yeah. As far as saying this, 889 00:55:32,099 --> 00:55:36,359 this lane. It's lame, obviously. Yeah. So that's the history of 890 00:55:36,359 --> 00:55:38,939 it. And like I said, that's just This is an outrage, we will not 891 00:55:38,939 --> 00:55:41,219 have these black Israelites getting away with it. 892 00:55:42,330 --> 00:55:45,810 What they're saying anybody, any Israelites, whatever, say 893 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,320 anybody that says that they're willing to their chosen people 894 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,470 are like him right now. And they may need to be dealt with in the 895 00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:55,650 same way they do. They did it. I'm saying we've seen it done 896 00:55:55,650 --> 00:55:59,100 with the Muslims, by everybody. This Muslim is like a part of 897 00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:02,070 Taliban, you know, it's like, what, how do you make that? 898 00:56:02,340 --> 00:56:05,790 Right? But you know, so just I just want to be clear, my fix is 899 00:56:05,790 --> 00:56:11,040 I don't give a crap what YouTube does, the more stupid they are, 900 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,890 the better and people will eventually wind up in other 901 00:56:13,890 --> 00:56:18,660 places that just are fair and work better. So yes, I'm not I'm 902 00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:21,330 not I'm not trying to get anyone to fix anything with YouTube 903 00:56:21,330 --> 00:56:21,810 screw. 904 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,460 No, but I care. Because if someone says that they're 905 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,540 believe that they're the chosen people, and you go on YouTube 906 00:56:30,540 --> 00:56:33,120 and look it up. It's like, oh, you're then you come back, huh? 907 00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:36,690 You're in a hate group? That kind of thing. So yeah, that's 908 00:56:36,690 --> 00:56:40,500 that's why I have a problem with it. Because it's just pushing is 909 00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:44,970 that actually, there is this corporate funded hate? And so 910 00:56:44,970 --> 00:56:47,760 that's why we need to get rid of YouTube you're saying and find 911 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,450 better things to do? Yes. And in the meantime, we're just Amala 912 00:56:51,450 --> 00:56:55,110 eyeballs so we had to siphon off as many people on before Sam 913 00:56:55,110 --> 00:56:58,260 before we leave, got my man TT say and I always message saying, 914 00:56:58,380 --> 00:57:01,440 slogan up with like, basically, we don't want to go big on 915 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,200 YouTube. We want to grow big enough to be independent of 916 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:11,610 YouTube. Hey, who's DD media? Oh, yeah, he's, yeah. Oh, yeah. 917 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:11,940 So 918 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,020 one of these days, one of these days I got to hang out with you. 919 00:57:16,050 --> 00:57:17,970 Eclass TD media. 920 00:57:18,570 --> 00:57:21,060 That's what the converse is about. He's got he's been in the 921 00:57:21,060 --> 00:57:23,730 converse. That's what we do over there. You're saying we we hang 922 00:57:23,730 --> 00:57:23,880 out. 923 00:57:26,340 --> 00:57:27,930 Now, I mean, like really hang out? 924 00:57:29,700 --> 00:57:32,940 Well, I've never really hung out with TV. This is a YouTube 925 00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:35,910 friend. Oh, but he's a he's a real friend at the same time, 926 00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:37,530 but ah, 927 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,610 that's not a safe space for me. Mo I'm good here. I'm good here 928 00:57:41,610 --> 00:57:48,630 with you. This is my safe space right here. All right. 929 00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:51,840 I want to show now is this is when J Jor. Beyhadh. got called 930 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,660 out for wearing blackface? Oh, yeah. Do you remember that? Of 931 00:57:54,660 --> 00:57:59,100 course, of course. So I want to show you the lack of 932 00:57:59,550 --> 00:58:06,240 reciprocation. Reciprocity, that's the term? Yeah. We're 933 00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:09,270 paying. You're saying one hand washes the other. Right. Right. 934 00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:13,500 You're saying so I don't think Joy got kicked off the view from 935 00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:18,720 you're saying two weeks or anytime free? No. At that time, 936 00:58:18,990 --> 00:58:23,130 the capital offense of wearing blackface I mean, people were 937 00:58:23,130 --> 00:58:25,470 getting counseled left and right. But somehow she was able 938 00:58:25,470 --> 00:58:29,460 to, you know, weather the storm. But not only weathered that 939 00:58:29,460 --> 00:58:32,760 storm, I want you to pay attention to how the other 940 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,590 people, specifically the black people on the panel, the view 941 00:58:37,770 --> 00:58:41,040 came to her defense over the black face issue. Number. 942 00:58:41,550 --> 00:58:46,980 This joy speaking, Joy. Yeah, paraded around in black face not 943 00:58:46,980 --> 00:58:49,200 too long ago. Come on, Joe. I don't think you should be. 944 00:58:50,250 --> 00:58:56,040 I mean, come on Kim. Excuse me, I have to say something to you. 945 00:58:56,370 --> 00:59:00,210 He told Bob Woodward, that it was a very serious issue. And 946 00:59:00,210 --> 00:59:02,970 it's airborne, and that it was terrible. And then he went out 947 00:59:02,970 --> 00:59:05,490 and told the American people don't wear masks. It's all going 948 00:59:05,490 --> 00:59:08,490 to go away. You have to put some blame on your president. And I'm 949 00:59:08,490 --> 00:59:12,210 sorry. You're putting it on something extraneous here. Talk 950 00:59:12,210 --> 00:59:15,390 to the point, please. Is this this joy 951 00:59:15,389 --> 00:59:20,549 speaking? Joy? Yeah, read it around in blackface not too long 952 00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:23,219 ago. Come on, Joe. I don't think you should be asking questions. 953 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:30,120 I mean, the black community had my back. They know that that's 954 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,950 not he has my own mind. 955 00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:40,110 He has your back. The black community has your community 956 00:59:40,110 --> 00:59:41,580 design for you. 957 00:59:45,179 --> 00:59:48,539 Stop right there. I want people to pay attention to Joyce a 958 00:59:48,539 --> 00:59:52,019 sunny teller. Like she was saying like her attack doll like 959 00:59:52,049 --> 00:59:56,069 oh yeah, I are Sunny. So just getting back up a little bit. So 960 00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:58,289 people can hear I just want to kind of hard to hear so what I'm 961 00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:00,989 saying so people can click Really we hear what's going on. 962 01:00:01,619 --> 01:00:03,659 Come on, Joe. I don't think you should be asking questions. 963 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:10,530 I mean, the black community had my back. They know that that's 964 01:00:10,530 --> 01:00:13,290 not he has my homage out. 965 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:20,010 Loud he has your back. The black community has your back. A 966 01:00:20,010 --> 01:00:22,620 community design for you, black. 967 01:00:23,610 --> 01:00:24,480 Vote for you 968 01:00:24,599 --> 01:00:29,609 what it was during Sunday. Can I speak? What are you living 969 01:00:30,029 --> 01:00:35,369 during a special? Well, we were still under lockdown. People 970 01:00:37,980 --> 01:00:41,190 Sunni, which is also a lawyer, which makes it even better, 971 01:00:41,579 --> 01:00:45,569 which Sunni Why didn't Sunni come to would be his defense. 972 01:00:46,169 --> 01:00:53,159 That's her sister. Right? What I'm saying is what you know why? 973 01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:55,079 Because Sonny's husband is Jewish. 974 01:00:56,250 --> 01:00:58,260 Oh, really? No. Oh, yes. 975 01:00:58,380 --> 01:01:01,860 So what I'm saying is, why don't these people go? You hear how 976 01:01:01,860 --> 01:01:06,510 they roll for joy? Yeah, Cam classic. Who are saying it was 977 01:01:06,510 --> 01:01:12,180 pretty damn black. Right. So you hear Oh, really? Wow, they got 978 01:01:12,180 --> 01:01:17,070 your back. Oh, wow. Sonny had no problem jumping all over Kim. on 979 01:01:17,070 --> 01:01:21,030 George's behalf. But Why didn't these same people go into things 980 01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:24,540 ABC office and say, You know what? We're gonna make a stink 981 01:01:24,540 --> 01:01:27,300 if you get rid of what? Because that's our sister. That's our 982 01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:29,880 view, sister. Right. And you didn't know that? What was that 983 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:30,090 it? 984 01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:38,850 So I can a comes back to what we said before I even though I'm 985 01:01:38,850 --> 01:01:42,780 not a fan of most of the people we've been playing clips of. I 986 01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:46,500 don't think they're inherently evil, racist, horrible people. 987 01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:50,880 They are cowards. And they're cowards because of they know 988 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,140 where the control is. 989 01:01:53,519 --> 01:01:54,929 That's my point. Yes, 990 01:01:54,929 --> 01:01:57,329 I know. That's, that's why I'm, that's why I'm saying and then 991 01:01:57,329 --> 01:02:01,109 that is the most anti semitic trope you can ever come up with. 992 01:02:01,259 --> 01:02:05,519 And I've been punished for it in mainstream for saying, well, 993 01:02:05,729 --> 01:02:09,809 here's what I'm seeing. And that's why it can never be 994 01:02:09,809 --> 01:02:13,499 discussed. But you know, same school teacher, I talked to her 995 01:02:13,499 --> 01:02:16,889 about this that way. She says, oh, yeah, absolutely. Of course. 996 01:02:18,269 --> 01:02:21,119 It's like, you can discuss it with real friends. But I don't 997 01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:23,939 think that really is discussed in public, this is not 998 01:02:23,939 --> 01:02:25,649 happening. It doesn't happen except here now. 999 01:02:26,250 --> 01:02:29,460 And you can have these private conversations, that's fine. But 1000 01:02:29,460 --> 01:02:34,650 with like, you have to tow a line. And like, say, I'm not 1001 01:02:34,650 --> 01:02:38,430 holding that against them, or anybody when you know, if you 1002 01:02:38,430 --> 01:02:41,700 want, if that's the kind of power that you will find. But at 1003 01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:45,630 the same time, when Joy got caught out for black face, and 1004 01:02:45,630 --> 01:02:48,420 we're seeing black faces a bad thing, there's no exception 1005 01:02:48,420 --> 01:02:54,330 given joy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sonny and Whoopi was supposed to 1006 01:02:54,330 --> 01:02:58,200 go in her dressing room, like a dorm, say, you know, the call? 1007 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,710 Oh, there's a you got to sit now for a week or two. I mean, 1008 01:03:01,710 --> 01:03:04,860 that's just, you know, you know how it goes. But you see, it's 1009 01:03:04,860 --> 01:03:08,040 not about I don't want to take power away from anybody. What I 1010 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,910 want to do is if that was power, power operates and looks like 1011 01:03:12,180 --> 01:03:15,780 we're, you're saying you can say, you know, this is bad for 1012 01:03:15,780 --> 01:03:20,490 our brand. You know, that's, that's not gonna fly. That's 1013 01:03:20,490 --> 01:03:23,610 just like gone. Let's go back to subo for a minute. If the 1014 01:03:23,850 --> 01:03:26,790 majority of black people say, You know what? We have a 1015 01:03:26,790 --> 01:03:30,630 gangster rappers on a Super Bowl. With turkeys. Not a good 1016 01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:35,910 look for us. You know, I mean, it's not it's not a net song 1017 01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:38,940 when, you know, and then they know we're not gonna do it. 1018 01:03:38,969 --> 01:03:44,039 If I may say, Yes, I love the short stout dancers a lot. 1019 01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:49,319 Just carry like the big like, like a big way I pay attention. 1020 01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:53,309 That's, um, I'm just saying it's something about the moves. I 1021 01:03:53,309 --> 01:03:56,429 mean, I'm an entertainment guy. Right? I can talk. I can totally 1022 01:03:56,429 --> 01:03:59,579 remove myself from all the bullshit. I'm like, shit. Yeah, 1023 01:03:59,579 --> 01:04:03,479 that's good. I mean, I'm right down to chubby 50 cent hanging 1024 01:04:03,479 --> 01:04:07,109 upside down like surprising, like that move. You know, it's 1025 01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:10,409 like I see it for what it is I sometimes you just can't read 1026 01:04:10,409 --> 01:04:13,559 too much into it. But that's not the world we live in. And I 1027 01:04:13,559 --> 01:04:15,059 totally get what you're saying. 1028 01:04:16,380 --> 01:04:20,070 I told you it's not it's not about trying to take away shut 1029 01:04:20,070 --> 01:04:23,520 silence people or anything like that. I'm just saying you were 1030 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,790 all about fair. If it's fair for one group to do this, it'd be 1031 01:04:26,790 --> 01:04:30,300 should be fair for all groups to do this. And especially if we're 1032 01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:33,720 allies. Yeah, that's the thing. If we're allies, then it needs 1033 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,360 to be you know, an allegiance 1034 01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:37,560 a real allegiance. 1035 01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:43,589 Yeah. Right. So I got another clip here saying from this is 1036 01:04:43,589 --> 01:04:47,699 another. Another pro. I don't know who it was. I can't find 1037 01:04:47,699 --> 01:04:49,889 out who was talking. Maybe you can catch this catch his voice. 1038 01:04:50,429 --> 01:04:55,469 But it's just not Kim. But this is another guy called Bob. Joy 1039 01:04:55,499 --> 01:04:58,709 out and listen to the response to the panel. 1040 01:04:59,159 --> 01:05:02,489 We don't want to have The country lives. We've all we've 1041 01:05:02,489 --> 01:05:02,699 all 1042 01:05:06,359 --> 01:05:08,849 we've all done things that we regret. I mean, if we're talking 1043 01:05:08,849 --> 01:05:13,049 about bringing the discourse to joy you've worn blackface won't 1044 01:05:13,049 --> 01:05:13,289 be 1045 01:05:15,509 --> 01:05:16,409 on site and 1046 01:05:17,730 --> 01:05:21,930 Roman Polanski it wasn't Rape Rape when he raped a child 1047 01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:27,300 so let's talk about why you want to bring this up. The question 1048 01:05:27,300 --> 01:05:30,510 came up I did not allow blackface please she was not in 1049 01:05:30,510 --> 01:05:35,850 blackface I listened being black I recognize blackface this I can 1050 01:05:35,850 --> 01:05:36,090 say 1051 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,590 in praise of naturally curly hair. They say that it's making 1052 01:05:40,590 --> 01:05:41,400 a comeback. 1053 01:05:41,909 --> 01:05:45,239 We've always had curly statement 1054 01:05:51,150 --> 01:06:12,300 Oh, picture now I know joy. I was so good. I was it was a 1055 01:06:12,300 --> 01:06:15,090 Halloween party. I went as a beautiful African woman. 1056 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:26,340 Oh, yeah, black but that's the whole point that was made you 1057 01:06:26,340 --> 01:06:33,900 have tanning lotion on makeup. That was a little bit my actual 1058 01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:34,200 hands. 1059 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,570 If I may analyze this was my MO facts with Adam curry learnings 1060 01:06:39,570 --> 01:06:45,150 over the past 75 episodes. I would say the violation here is 1061 01:06:45,180 --> 01:06:48,450 the other rail you're not supposed to touch which is black 1062 01:06:48,450 --> 01:06:52,200 hair. I would say that was probably equally as offensive 1063 01:06:52,230 --> 01:06:56,760 as, as the so called black face episode. 1064 01:06:57,059 --> 01:06:59,309 And that was something I would never talk about on the show. 1065 01:06:59,489 --> 01:06:59,909 No, 1066 01:06:59,940 --> 01:07:04,800 I mean, we we have balls, but we're not stupid, right? 1067 01:07:08,579 --> 01:07:13,829 ain't stupid. But no, you hear the tone of the difference. Now 1068 01:07:13,859 --> 01:07:17,249 if it was somebody else, a politician of another ilk or 1069 01:07:17,519 --> 01:07:21,059 somebody or just saying if it was Meghan McCain that had the 1070 01:07:21,449 --> 01:07:24,479 the black face on it, we know it would it wouldn't have been 1071 01:07:24,479 --> 01:07:26,939 laughed off. No, he wouldn't have been you know, he wouldn't 1072 01:07:26,939 --> 01:07:30,359 be joy. Are you? Are you black? Black face? And then for her 1073 01:07:30,359 --> 01:07:34,289 even saying that? No, I didn't wear a black face only wore dark 1074 01:07:34,289 --> 01:07:37,379 makeup there portray myself as an African princess. That's not 1075 01:07:37,379 --> 01:07:37,979 black face? 1076 01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:39,839 Not at all. 1077 01:07:41,369 --> 01:07:44,309 When do we start giving these passes? And just to show you 1078 01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:48,899 this is not about just this particular group. I feel the 1079 01:07:48,899 --> 01:07:52,049 same way about the Democratic Party with the governor and the 1080 01:07:52,049 --> 01:07:55,859 former governor down in image in Virginia in my home state. He 1081 01:07:55,859 --> 01:07:58,739 got he got a pass on let me get. I don't think I ever told this 1082 01:07:58,919 --> 01:08:02,609 doesn't ever tell you their story. Now could tell that don't 1083 01:08:02,609 --> 01:08:07,739 work there no more. Did I ever tell you the story of the former 1084 01:08:07,739 --> 01:08:12,179 governor of Virginia? I don't think so. Okay, so Jim, I'll 1085 01:08:12,179 --> 01:08:15,599 make it very quick. So we're coming from the lunch room. Me 1086 01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:17,879 and my wife, me and one of my friends. I won't say his name 1087 01:08:17,879 --> 01:08:20,999 because he still works there. And we're coming down the hall 1088 01:08:20,999 --> 01:08:24,899 and we see these big black guy in a suit. And what the hell's 1089 01:08:24,899 --> 01:08:27,299 going on? You're saying like he's walking down the hallway. 1090 01:08:27,569 --> 01:08:29,099 And we're like you're saying and then we noticed he had an 1091 01:08:29,159 --> 01:08:33,059 earpiece? And we're like, Hold on Wait, who's here? Because 1092 01:08:33,059 --> 01:08:36,329 normally went to my politician or to my comms important current 1093 01:08:36,329 --> 01:08:40,769 VIP comes to the site. They like to let everybody know. Yeah, I 1094 01:08:40,769 --> 01:08:43,619 mean, not only that, but roll out the red carpet. Yeah, same 1095 01:08:43,619 --> 01:08:47,939 and standard attention. Yeah. Right. So here comes this secret 1096 01:08:47,939 --> 01:08:51,059 security guy coming down the hallway. And right behind him. 1097 01:08:51,059 --> 01:08:55,319 Here comes the governor. They had to sneak him in, because of 1098 01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:58,079 the heat from the blackface thing for him to see the new 1099 01:08:58,079 --> 01:08:58,439 building. 1100 01:08:58,470 --> 01:09:03,030 Oh, wow. Holy crap. Course. 1101 01:09:03,810 --> 01:09:06,870 How it works. It's like, he's like, not only I want to take 1102 01:09:07,050 --> 01:09:10,950 general you know, just be out in the general population. I just 1103 01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:13,560 want to come see, you know, the billion dollar addition you have 1104 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,930 going on and get up out of here because I might have some it 1105 01:09:15,930 --> 01:09:16,200 wasn't 1106 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,200 necessarily of course you have you. I'm sure your company was 1107 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,730 extremely diverse. So that made me even worse. Yeah. Oh, my God, 1108 01:09:23,730 --> 01:09:25,350 what's the coward power? 1109 01:09:25,739 --> 01:09:29,189 Is I'm just showing you how all these things are strategic 1110 01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:32,069 strategically done to say, hey, you know, I got to come in 1111 01:09:32,069 --> 01:09:36,029 through the back door. Yeah. My black face made me come to the 1112 01:09:36,029 --> 01:09:40,199 back door. So I guess he had a little bit of experience of 1113 01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:40,679 being black. 1114 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,820 Well, you know, and I believe and I believe that's because 1115 01:09:45,810 --> 01:09:49,770 they in their heart truly believe they are not racist. And 1116 01:09:50,250 --> 01:09:54,240 at the time when that occurred for this governor or when Joy 1117 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,500 did it, and it could have been yesterday could have been two 1118 01:09:58,500 --> 01:10:02,580 two years ago. They still believe it was they had no 1119 01:10:02,580 --> 01:10:06,000 racist bone in their in their body and and therefore it wasn't 1120 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,400 racist that that's the whole sick thing. 1121 01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:13,560 Once again, I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about 1122 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:18,330 the double standard or Whoopi Goldberg Of course, and and 1123 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,980 Sonny Halston and those people, I know, blackface is offensive. 1124 01:10:22,980 --> 01:10:26,280 It's offensive. Like that same thing with anti semitism. They 1125 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,010 don't look at the party affiliation. No, it's like it's 1126 01:10:29,010 --> 01:10:34,290 cut and dry. Yeah. Here's the here's the here's the no nose. 1127 01:10:34,620 --> 01:10:37,530 And we don't care who does it. If you do it you're gonna have 1128 01:10:37,530 --> 01:10:42,960 to pay with us is like, Well, you did this now. Turn over the 1129 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:49,830 page and see see the conditions? Oh, yeah. Let me let me see your 1130 01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:53,460 cookout, pass. cookout? You're good now? 1131 01:10:54,000 --> 01:11:00,150 You personally. Year, dude, your comedian you don't even know it? 1132 01:11:00,270 --> 01:11:02,880 You don't even know it. That's funny. Good riff. 1133 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,860 Appreciate it. But that's what frustrates me about not about 1134 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,820 the outside groups. It's the double standards inside the 1135 01:11:11,820 --> 01:11:15,120 group church, because that weekend, I appreciate how they 1136 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,240 roll. Cuz it's like, your own code. If you ain't on code. 1137 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,990 Yeah, shut up. They'll cancel their own. We don't care. Yeah. 1138 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,200 So I'm talking about 1139 01:11:25,230 --> 01:11:28,920 but I'm sorry. But isn't that just exactly it? Isn't it then 1140 01:11:28,980 --> 01:11:32,550 if you know, black America's got to say hey, we're on cut, you 1141 01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:35,370 know, we got to have you on code to you don't do something right. 1142 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,310 And they they got to cancel too hard. 1143 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,110 And for the most part we are but the fact is they can roll out 1144 01:11:43,110 --> 01:11:46,260 that this is why the Boulay is so dangerous. It's not the 1145 01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:48,870 people on the ground. It's not the boots on the ground is 1146 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,800 cosine. And this is the bigger always roll out a Blu ray member 1147 01:11:52,980 --> 01:11:56,850 to say, oh, no, no, like night joy. Sunny Halston, Brian, I get 1148 01:11:56,850 --> 01:12:03,720 that for you joy. Like she put the put her hands in our pockets 1149 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,730 like whistle didn't look the other way. It's like a joy. You 1150 01:12:05,730 --> 01:12:09,960 know your own? Yes. I can't I can't step in. I. So that's my 1151 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:17,040 whole point is is that it's not it's not a fair exchange. 1152 01:12:17,130 --> 01:12:21,390 But but it now do you feel this is specifically in the media, 1153 01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:24,510 predominantly in the media? Or is it the same across the board 1154 01:12:24,510 --> 01:12:28,830 in any organizational structure business? Otherwise? 1155 01:12:29,550 --> 01:12:32,970 I can't tell you because I have never been in these boardrooms 1156 01:12:34,350 --> 01:12:39,750 saying, Oh, maybe corporations and those kind of things. I can 1157 01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:42,750 only tell you what plays out in the public. So I can't that's 1158 01:12:42,750 --> 01:12:45,360 why I say if I if I answered that question, I didn't know 1159 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,480 that I would actually be participating. Right? And you're 1160 01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:53,370 saying, uh, and stereotypes right? To say, Oh, yes. It's the 1161 01:12:53,370 --> 01:12:57,150 banks. And you know, and I'm not saying nothing. You only 1162 01:12:57,150 --> 01:13:02,490 discredit yourself, when you say, oh, it's the Jews. No, no, 1163 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,580 this specific point out and like, that's why I'm being very, 1164 01:13:05,820 --> 01:13:09,630 I'm not being very careful here. Out of fear. I'm being very 1165 01:13:09,630 --> 01:13:13,740 careful here to be precise. So we can highlight the issue. You 1166 01:13:13,740 --> 01:13:16,470 know, because a lot of times people just jump straight to the 1167 01:13:16,590 --> 01:13:18,930 it's the Jews and it's like, come on, first of all, that's 1168 01:13:18,930 --> 01:13:22,320 offensive to the people that's on the ground and pro the Jews. 1169 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,890 They're Jewish people that are pro Can you say Jews? I don't 1170 01:13:25,890 --> 01:13:29,490 know. But if Yeah, I think you can. Okay, I'm just making sure 1171 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:30,240 on this on this 1172 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:34,230 show. No, come on Mo and on this show we say blacks gays, Jews, 1173 01:13:34,230 --> 01:13:35,250 whites, it's fine. 1174 01:13:35,670 --> 01:13:38,250 I don't know what's acceptable cuz I don't don't do 1175 01:13:38,820 --> 01:13:42,420 everything everything and sharing everything and nothing 1176 01:13:42,420 --> 01:13:45,510 is acceptable. You can't, no one's gonna be it would never 1177 01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:46,410 get everybody happy. 1178 01:13:46,980 --> 01:13:50,220 No one know why I'm asking that is because I don't self censor 1179 01:13:50,220 --> 01:13:53,400 myself. So I'm not aware. I don't know what is acceptable or 1180 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:53,640 not. 1181 01:13:55,200 --> 01:14:00,660 I as a as a Jew, adjacent, I guess I get to say it's 1182 01:14:00,660 --> 01:14:01,950 acceptable for this show. 1183 01:14:02,460 --> 01:14:07,350 Okay. So yes. So my whole point is that, you know, it's just 1184 01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:11,700 that when you do that and say blanket statements, you only 1185 01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:14,490 discredit yourself because there's people aren't like, 1186 01:14:15,179 --> 01:14:19,019 people, they're very fine people on both sides. What knows 1187 01:14:19,020 --> 01:14:23,520 actually, people just doing good work for Palestine is good for 1188 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,030 people, you know, if you lean that way or the other way. And 1189 01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:29,550 one thing I want to point out is Ilhan Omar and we got to talk 1190 01:14:29,550 --> 01:14:32,670 about her for a minute because they use this same tactic 1191 01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:35,610 against her Yep, that you know anytime they need to reel her 1192 01:14:35,610 --> 01:14:38,700 back in he was saying they played it anti semitic card. 1193 01:14:38,790 --> 01:14:40,980 He's like hey, you but they don't never kill. Well, 1194 01:14:40,980 --> 01:14:43,560 that that in the you married your brother card. That's 1195 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:44,430 another favorite. 1196 01:14:44,940 --> 01:14:45,300 Yeah. 1197 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,930 I think that's that one's more entertaining. When they roll 1198 01:14:48,930 --> 01:14:51,300 that we're winning. She's smoking the cigarette. I love 1199 01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:52,140 that. That's cool. 1200 01:14:52,770 --> 01:14:58,680 Patchy hair. About give me counsel. Yeah, I'm working on 1201 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:05,610 it. I see Let's see. So now we got to get to the remarks. Um 1202 01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:09,660 it's a teachable moments, I was a teachable moment you know. So 1203 01:15:09,660 --> 01:15:13,980 I just as a exercise I want to show power is supposed to be 1204 01:15:13,980 --> 01:15:18,120 done. When you have somebody to step, run a file or whatever, 1205 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:22,320 you know thing is offensive. This is how they always use the 1206 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,790 teachable moment number 12. 1207 01:15:24,420 --> 01:15:27,330 The history of the Holocaust has been part of the school 1208 01:15:27,330 --> 01:15:31,620 curriculums for decades. But how it is taught, and how much 1209 01:15:31,620 --> 01:15:35,700 Americans really know about the mass genocide of European Jews 1210 01:15:35,850 --> 01:15:39,240 and other minority groups has changed in recent years. 1211 01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:43,290 Concerns about that very issue were triggered this week by 1212 01:15:43,290 --> 01:15:47,520 remarks from Whoopi Goldberg, the comedian, actress and talk 1213 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,900 show host made the comments Monday on ABC TV's view, 1214 01:15:52,170 --> 01:15:55,800 Goldberg and her co hosts were discussing a school district 1215 01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:00,480 book man on a graphic novel about the Holocaust mouse. Here 1216 01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:03,270 is some of what Goldberg initially said during her 1217 01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:04,110 conversation. 1218 01:16:04,140 --> 01:16:09,210 The Holocaust isn't about race. No, no, it's not about 1219 01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:17,160 you heard Sonny agree with her. Mm hmm. Did you hear that? I 1220 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,370 mean, are you just mean Did you hear that? You heard it when 1221 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,250 it's pointed out to you. But did you ever pay attention to that 1222 01:16:23,250 --> 01:16:26,010 before? No, never this conversation? No, of course 1223 01:16:26,010 --> 01:16:30,240 notice. No. Sonny agree with Whoopi. So that's that black 1224 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,360 thing kicked me in first, like yep, yep. And she's like, well, 1225 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:39,810 hold on. Hold. Wait, wait, you know, so pay attention to the 1226 01:16:39,810 --> 01:16:42,060 quick change that Sonny does. 1227 01:16:42,450 --> 01:16:45,180 I'm gonna roll it back just a tad more holistic, 1228 01:16:45,690 --> 01:16:49,890 graphic novel about the Holocaust mouse. Here is some of 1229 01:16:49,890 --> 01:16:52,920 what Goldberg initially said during her conversation. 1230 01:16:52,950 --> 01:17:01,200 The Holocaust isn't about race. No, no, it's not about race. 1231 01:17:01,410 --> 01:17:03,960 It's not about race. 1232 01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:08,310 Well, how if Sonny said No How come? Sonny doesn't get 1233 01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:08,910 canceled? 1234 01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:10,200 Because her husband? 1235 01:17:11,190 --> 01:17:13,110 She got the card. Mm hmm. 1236 01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:21,270 Educate she as she and she came to heal a heal. I keep that 1237 01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:25,680 happening. Yeah. She quickly like nah, Sheila. No, no, no, 1238 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:32,430 wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Am I real? Quickly, and 1239 01:17:32,490 --> 01:17:34,980 let me start right here cuz you ask this question. And I got to 1240 01:17:34,980 --> 01:17:38,010 touch into this. This whole Whoopi thing. Me you talked 1241 01:17:38,010 --> 01:17:43,020 about the via text? What is her Whoopi thing aside? Because 1242 01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:48,000 Bobby knows. She knows. She knows you can't say this. And 1243 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,240 then they brought it on the Colbert show that night. They 1244 01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,060 cleared her schedule brought her on, and she still stuck to her 1245 01:17:54,060 --> 01:17:57,780 guns. So I'm like, is this a psyop for something else to come 1246 01:17:57,780 --> 01:17:59,250 down the line. But you and 1247 01:17:59,250 --> 01:18:02,610 I discussed it in the context of Rogen, which was happening at 1248 01:18:02,610 --> 01:18:03,390 the same time? 1249 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,290 Correct. So it's just like, huh, in fact, 1250 01:18:07,290 --> 01:18:10,800 I remember I remember what you said. You said Whoopi may be in 1251 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,230 on this somehow on this Rogan thing? 1252 01:18:13,650 --> 01:18:16,260 Right? Because now you set the standard like all we got to 1253 01:18:16,260 --> 01:18:19,170 counsel people, you're saying we can't Whoopi? Yeah, you know, 1254 01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,350 cuz you'll see these things happen as a precursor. And I'm 1255 01:18:22,350 --> 01:18:24,870 not saying that um, this is just me speculating watching it 1256 01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:28,200 because it's like would be just a dumb thing to say, well, it's 1257 01:18:28,260 --> 01:18:31,470 not you know, you're absolutely right. Because now, every 1258 01:18:31,470 --> 01:18:37,650 cancellation not every but I hear a lot is. Well, Whoopi 1259 01:18:37,650 --> 01:18:41,070 Goldberg, you know, it's a it's a new measure in the line. It 1260 01:18:41,070 --> 01:18:43,680 says lightning would be Yeah, what about Whoopi is like, Oh, 1261 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,820 hold on a second. That was the standard. And by the way, it 1262 01:18:47,820 --> 01:18:52,500 really sets up it really reestablishes the standard of 1263 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,720 where Jews want to be seen in the entertainment narrative. 1264 01:18:58,470 --> 01:19:01,470 So I'm just I just found it weird that she stuck to her guns 1265 01:19:01,500 --> 01:19:04,710 even after the show. Yeah, and even on the Colbert show, cuz 1266 01:19:04,710 --> 01:19:09,510 I'm sure she got phone calls. If she was honestly saying this, 1267 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:14,430 I'm sure her phone was ringing off the hook. A July like phone? 1268 01:19:14,489 --> 01:19:18,929 Yeah. I'm sorry. I got Rona man. It's like, a little slow today. 1269 01:19:19,500 --> 01:19:21,660 Oh, no problem. Oh, you 1270 01:19:21,660 --> 01:19:23,760 mean to Boulais? Phone? Mo Yeah, sure. 1271 01:19:25,170 --> 01:19:33,270 Not the different phone you know, so but yes. So I want to 1272 01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:35,970 say that her phone was off the hook was ringing off the hook. 1273 01:19:35,970 --> 01:19:40,470 Like you really want to stand on this. If she truly meant it. And 1274 01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:42,390 she probably would have corrected herself by how she 1275 01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:45,180 went on the Colbert show. But she didn't know which I just 1276 01:19:45,180 --> 01:19:49,470 found very strange. I mean, just just just just observing. Yeah. 1277 01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:53,490 I like it. We'll go back to that part. Okay, the Holocaust 1278 01:19:53,490 --> 01:20:00,840 isn't about race. No, no, it's not about race. No As a race, 1279 01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:05,340 but it's it's not about race. It's not about race, it's about 1280 01:20:05,340 --> 01:20:10,860 because it's about man's inhumanity to man. That's what 1281 01:20:10,860 --> 01:20:11,490 it's about. 1282 01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,480 Those remarks were widely condemned. And in response, a 1283 01:20:15,480 --> 01:20:20,310 number of experts detail the Nazis racism against Jews. The 1284 01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:23,640 next day, Goldberg invited the head of the anti Defamation 1285 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,780 League on the program to explain the historical record. And she 1286 01:20:27,810 --> 01:20:28,710 apologized. 1287 01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:33,600 You know, what the, kind of the sad thing of all of this is, is 1288 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:38,910 that we have a medical tyranny situation in the world right 1289 01:20:38,910 --> 01:20:45,360 now, which is extremely analogous to Germany 3133 34, 1290 01:20:45,690 --> 01:20:49,410 you know, getting set up for the Nazi party with othering, etc. 1291 01:20:49,710 --> 01:20:54,930 And, you know, we can't because of this, ultimately, you know, 1292 01:20:54,930 --> 01:20:59,760 this this conversation that's, that's taking place around this 1293 01:20:59,790 --> 01:21:05,520 particular incident is and Joe Rogan, etc. Deal. Meanwhile, 1294 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:10,140 it's happening all over again, right in front of our face in 1295 01:21:10,140 --> 01:21:14,550 real time, you know what I'm saying? Right? But we can't see 1296 01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:16,230 that we can't see the problem. 1297 01:21:16,650 --> 01:21:19,470 Right. The way I look at Canada is the Charlotte view of the 1298 01:21:19,470 --> 01:21:23,730 world. You know, the high calling of Charlottesville kind 1299 01:21:23,730 --> 01:21:27,030 of set this scene? Yeah, yeah, sure. Sure. You know, it's kind 1300 01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:30,720 of like that for the whole world. Of anybody that's 1301 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,630 thinking about doing this. You're gonna be you want to be 1302 01:21:33,660 --> 01:21:34,650 perceived this way. 1303 01:21:34,890 --> 01:21:37,560 Which is why all eyes on Canada? 1304 01:21:38,430 --> 01:21:45,570 Yes. Keep trucking it up, fellas. I'm so sure. So I guess 1305 01:21:45,570 --> 01:21:47,370 we can go in and get into 13 1306 01:21:47,370 --> 01:21:52,800 now, and she apologized. I said that the Holocaust wasn't about 1307 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,180 race. And it was instead about man's inhumanity to man. But it 1308 01:21:57,180 --> 01:22:00,870 is indeed about race. Because Hitler and the Nazis considered 1309 01:22:00,870 --> 01:22:04,680 Jews to be an inferior race. Now words matter and mine are no 1310 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,880 exception. I regret my comments, as I said, and I stand 1311 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,990 corrected. I also stand with the Jewish people, as they know and 1312 01:22:12,990 --> 01:22:15,150 y'all know because I've always done that. 1313 01:22:15,630 --> 01:22:19,980 Afterward, ABC suspended Goldberg for two weeks. The 1314 01:22:19,980 --> 01:22:22,680 episode is raised larger questions, and we want to spend 1315 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,800 a few minutes looking at those good Ethan Katz is the co 1316 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,580 director of the Berkeley anti semitism education initiative. 1317 01:22:29,850 --> 01:22:33,480 And He's an associate professor of history and Jewish Studies at 1318 01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:37,770 UC Berkeley. Ethan Katz, welcome to the NewsHour. First of all, 1319 01:22:37,770 --> 01:22:42,300 what was your reaction to Whoopi Goldberg's initial comments that 1320 01:22:42,300 --> 01:22:44,370 the Holocaust was not about race? 1321 01:22:45,180 --> 01:22:47,820 Thank you for having me on the show. I mean, this was a 1322 01:22:47,820 --> 01:22:51,300 shocking thing for someone to say someone who is well 1323 01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:55,560 educated, someone who has many, many Jewish friends and has for 1324 01:22:55,560 --> 01:23:01,200 decades. And so the Holocaust was all about race, right? The 1325 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:05,340 historical record of the Nazis is so clear that they thought 1326 01:23:05,340 --> 01:23:08,460 they were fighting a race war primarily against Jews also in 1327 01:23:08,460 --> 01:23:12,660 Slavs and Roma and other groups. And so to make this statement 1328 01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:17,130 reflects a tremendous lack of historical sort of basic 1329 01:23:17,130 --> 01:23:20,580 knowledge about the nature of the Holocaust, and also the 1330 01:23:20,580 --> 01:23:25,110 nature of anti semitism as primarily a racial hatred of 1331 01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:29,160 Jews because it sees Jews as a racial, biological group. 1332 01:23:30,300 --> 01:23:30,990 Okay. 1333 01:23:32,220 --> 01:23:35,940 So this he's Brian, this is normal. They have to bring in 1334 01:23:35,940 --> 01:23:38,820 somebody to educate you. Yes, yes. We saw this with Nick 1335 01:23:38,820 --> 01:23:43,200 Cannon. Nick Cannon, he was saying he had some guest on and 1336 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:47,040 he kind of stepped on the third rail. He had apologized twice. 1337 01:23:48,330 --> 01:23:51,780 And he had to had to rabbis on the show to educate him. And 1338 01:23:51,780 --> 01:23:55,470 it's one thing I've missed. One point I wonder missed to make 1339 01:23:55,470 --> 01:23:58,380 because it's important to say clips, can you go back and just 1340 01:23:58,380 --> 01:24:01,500 play the first maybe 1015 seconds a clip number 12. I'm 1341 01:24:01,500 --> 01:24:04,440 sorry, I know. I know you had I kicked it out. But I want to 1342 01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:07,290 point out a point while you pulling it up. I want to point 1343 01:24:07,290 --> 01:24:12,480 out the parallel between West taught school for the Holocaust 1344 01:24:12,510 --> 01:24:14,940 and then compare that to CRT. Here we 1345 01:24:14,939 --> 01:24:18,419 go. The history of the Holocaust has been part of school 1346 01:24:18,419 --> 01:24:22,709 curriculums for decades, but how it is taught and how much 1347 01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:26,789 Americans really know about the mass genocide of European Jews 1348 01:24:26,939 --> 01:24:30,329 and other minority groups has changed in recent years. 1349 01:24:30,930 --> 01:24:36,150 You stopped right there. So the point notice CRT kicked out No, 1350 01:24:36,150 --> 01:24:39,630 no, no, no, no, for good reason. Because it's like from my side. 1351 01:24:39,660 --> 01:24:42,090 I'm glad I got kicked out because I don't want you to 1352 01:24:42,090 --> 01:24:46,590 teach my kids that they're inferior and victims. But CRT 1353 01:24:46,590 --> 01:24:53,190 get kicked out. But the Holocaust stays in. Right. And 1354 01:24:53,190 --> 01:24:57,450 it's been tough read notice. Certain groups are trying to get 1355 01:24:57,450 --> 01:25:01,950 CRT put in Holocaust already in there. He's always already baked 1356 01:25:01,950 --> 01:25:05,130 into part of your education in the public school system. Right? 1357 01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:05,670 But But 1358 01:25:05,670 --> 01:25:09,270 is it? Is it done as destructively as CRT? 1359 01:25:10,860 --> 01:25:14,400 No, it's taught from a different paradigm, not from the paradigm 1360 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:19,650 of being a victim, right? paradigm of being weak survive, 1361 01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:23,160 right, which is being a survivor or being a victim is to total 1362 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:27,870 deaths. No, no. Yes. So I'm just wanting to point that out when I 1363 01:25:27,870 --> 01:25:32,370 heard I was like, huh, so it CRT gets kicked out, you know, and 1364 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,120 are railed against. But nobody ever says anything about taking 1365 01:25:37,260 --> 01:25:39,870 the Holocaust. out of out of 1366 01:25:39,989 --> 01:25:42,899 right. But it but if it was, it was presented in the victim 1367 01:25:43,259 --> 01:25:46,079 narrative than I think it would be, obviously. 1368 01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:50,430 So why don't you teach CRT from the paradigm? Well, of course, 1369 01:25:50,460 --> 01:25:54,210 of course. Once again, I understand it, but 1370 01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:58,020 but I don't hold your saying the Jewish people accountable. I 1371 01:25:58,020 --> 01:26:01,080 hold the Boulais accountable, because it's like whatever they 1372 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:05,190 did, to get the power they have, obviously, it worked. I mean, we 1373 01:26:05,190 --> 01:26:09,090 can't deny it. It works. So you work closely what you're saying 1374 01:26:09,090 --> 01:26:12,150 with these coalition's not those two blueprint overs, like 1375 01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:14,940 whatever y'all did, let us get the blueprint, you know, and 1376 01:26:14,940 --> 01:26:19,260 then we can enact it so we can get whatever happened in America 1377 01:26:19,260 --> 01:26:23,220 slaving in taught from a paradigm of these kids are 1378 01:26:23,220 --> 01:26:28,320 survivors. Not the same way Jewish kids feel pride in their 1379 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:33,450 parents being survivors of the Holocaust, not of victims of it. 1380 01:26:35,310 --> 01:26:40,770 Well, I'd like to remind you that I believe that all this 1381 01:26:40,770 --> 01:26:46,350 generational wealth we're dealing with came from a nice 1382 01:26:46,350 --> 01:26:51,840 handful of families who were who were at the Money Creation. Hmm. 1383 01:26:52,410 --> 01:26:55,260 It's only been 100 years really, when you think about it, most of 1384 01:26:55,260 --> 01:26:59,940 most of these families in the United States, at least. And and 1385 01:26:59,940 --> 01:27:02,940 so now you know, there's a new place where money's being 1386 01:27:02,940 --> 01:27:05,940 created, it's Bitcoin and I'll just keep saying I think that's 1387 01:27:05,940 --> 01:27:10,290 where black America should sit as close to the sources that as 1388 01:27:10,290 --> 01:27:10,920 possible. 1389 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,490 Well, I'll let you know we always go back and forth on 1390 01:27:14,490 --> 01:27:17,640 this, which I'm not anti crypto, I want to make this clear. 1391 01:27:18,390 --> 01:27:21,930 I'm very specifically I'm specifically Bitcoin not crypto 1392 01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:22,890 when we pick Well, 1393 01:27:22,890 --> 01:27:27,660 we're okay. I'm not anti Bitcoin. But I want people to 1394 01:27:27,660 --> 01:27:34,410 understand the power that's behind the dollar. Um, and you 1395 01:27:34,410 --> 01:27:39,480 can see it being plant you brought up Canada. Yo, yo, the 1396 01:27:39,480 --> 01:27:42,810 world is gonna say, y'all, I mean, the y'all as the listeners 1397 01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:47,730 are seeing, Oh, crypto or Yeah, we want to get your hands around 1398 01:27:47,730 --> 01:27:52,200 that. It's funny. It's funding protest. It's funding problems. 1399 01:27:52,230 --> 01:27:55,410 Oh, yeah. We need to regulate that ASAP. Sure. Oh, this is 1400 01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:56,010 this is 1401 01:27:57,630 --> 01:28:01,260 not like they can I'm just saying not like they can. But 1402 01:28:01,260 --> 01:28:03,120 okay, it's nice for them to say that. 1403 01:28:05,610 --> 01:28:10,680 There's a difference. I don't I never doubt the power and magic 1404 01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:14,760 behind the dollar. And I mean, that literally, that $1 Bill 1405 01:28:15,510 --> 01:28:18,990 That's some heavy weight. Witchcraft going on in that 1406 01:28:18,990 --> 01:28:21,360 because you can flash that bad boy around the world and people 1407 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:25,380 know I mean, even people in countries and civilizations that 1408 01:28:25,410 --> 01:28:25,860 have 1409 01:28:25,859 --> 01:28:31,379 not true that's true. And out the magic is not that magic. The 1410 01:28:31,379 --> 01:28:35,249 magic is the massive military that defends it. 1411 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,240 Yeah, because if you look on one side it has the pure look on the 1412 01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:43,260 other side got an ego with a talent full of arrows that let 1413 01:28:43,260 --> 01:28:47,610 you know that's what's up. Wow, America, honestly, Nick and run 1414 01:28:47,610 --> 01:28:50,640 up the day all they want to and I mean, I I've never said this 1415 01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,030 on the show. But how America works is it's like the repo man. 1416 01:28:54,750 --> 01:28:57,330 You can run all the debt you want. But you can't come repo 1417 01:28:57,330 --> 01:29:00,630 these cars got got a house full of guns. Yeah, yeah. You're 1418 01:29:00,630 --> 01:29:04,260 saying so? China? Yeah, I bet 20 trillion, 30 trillion 50 1419 01:29:04,260 --> 01:29:07,260 trillion. And that's what they realize. Like, how you gonna 1420 01:29:07,260 --> 01:29:13,680 collect? Come get it? Yep. So I'm just saying that that's why 1421 01:29:14,010 --> 01:29:17,070 I'm not anti Bitcoin or crypto because I think it's a great 1422 01:29:17,070 --> 01:29:22,080 money. Big opportunity. And like you said, it's in transferring 1423 01:29:22,260 --> 01:29:26,220 money. Yeah, they can't control it. But when you get ready to 1424 01:29:26,220 --> 01:29:29,640 actually transfer it over to something you could spend. 1425 01:29:30,420 --> 01:29:32,850 They'll try their damnedest to do what I can't not gonna say 1426 01:29:32,850 --> 01:29:35,190 they're gonna be successful. But yeah, you see, we saw what they 1427 01:29:35,190 --> 01:29:35,850 did in Canada. 1428 01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,810 I know I hate mo I'm not saying I'm not saying it's easy. But 1429 01:29:39,810 --> 01:29:43,110 we've had revolutions before this is just a very long very 1430 01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:46,320 silent one that's taking place and I'm from the future so I'm 1431 01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:47,520 just letting you know. That's okay. 1432 01:29:47,550 --> 01:29:51,600 And I agree, I agree with you that you know, it we're on the 1433 01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:55,800 cusp of something very Wow, not in violent but just people 1434 01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:58,890 thinking differently. And that's why they're trying to get their 1435 01:29:58,890 --> 01:30:02,700 hands around it. Anything they can't control they try to 1436 01:30:02,700 --> 01:30:06,270 destroy, and hopefully people see, this is the this is why the 1437 01:30:06,270 --> 01:30:10,680 paranoia. Just thought from and I don't want to be like this 1438 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,070 point, but just stop for a minute and savor this. And see 1439 01:30:14,070 --> 01:30:18,060 like how Justin Trudeau was rolling, and how the whole 1440 01:30:18,060 --> 01:30:24,510 situation playing out. And that's the what? The mentality 1441 01:30:24,510 --> 01:30:30,300 or the SIOP that people that I'll say, I can only speak for 1442 01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,150 me specifically, have lived under this, I, you know what, 1443 01:30:33,150 --> 01:30:35,670 you can't build it cuz they just gonna tear it up. But that's 1444 01:30:35,670 --> 01:30:38,220 what caused the victimization mentality, which that's why we 1445 01:30:38,220 --> 01:30:40,650 had to defeat it. And that's the whole point of this whole block. 1446 01:30:40,650 --> 01:30:45,690 And the show in general is that you can't No, just be a victim. 1447 01:30:46,110 --> 01:30:48,720 At the end of that you have to keep pushing for it. But on the 1448 01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,630 other side, this is a good way to empathize and see what what 1449 01:30:51,630 --> 01:30:54,720 it feels like to be on the bottom. Because this is this is 1450 01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,310 a this is about a moment right now. 1451 01:30:56,700 --> 01:31:03,240 Absolutely. And, and I think I see people realizing that, and, 1452 01:31:03,450 --> 01:31:08,190 yeah, we're seeing how to do roles. But there's a lot of 1453 01:31:08,190 --> 01:31:11,190 pushback, and it's, it's going to be very interesting to see 1454 01:31:11,190 --> 01:31:13,890 what happens. We know that there's only a few outcomes. 1455 01:31:14,100 --> 01:31:20,730 Someone's got to bleed. And we'll see. But it to me the most 1456 01:31:20,730 --> 01:31:26,280 amazing thing is Canada. Like, yeah, I will never make another 1457 01:31:26,310 --> 01:31:31,470 a or a bhoot joke again. Fuck those guys are badass. So we'll 1458 01:31:31,470 --> 01:31:35,940 see. We'll see what happens. But yeah, this is a everyone can be 1459 01:31:35,940 --> 01:31:40,680 at the bottom moment. This is the true get mo nation slavery's 1460 01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,480 what this is, it's unbelievable. 1461 01:31:42,510 --> 01:31:46,290 That's exactly what it is. And this one more No, is always be 1462 01:31:46,290 --> 01:31:49,710 cautious. That person is always smiling, the happy. Here's a new 1463 01:31:49,710 --> 01:31:53,820 ones you got to worry about. It's right. When they go, they 1464 01:31:53,820 --> 01:31:54,390 really go. 1465 01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,460 Yeah, I mean, it's and I know that people are just in 1466 01:31:59,460 --> 01:32:02,640 disbelief over what's happening. But it's really taking place. 1467 01:32:02,670 --> 01:32:06,540 It's it's phenomenal. This moment in history is really 1468 01:32:06,540 --> 01:32:11,610 fantastic. But the I think they really underestimate the 1469 01:32:11,610 --> 01:32:13,470 communication skills with the people. 1470 01:32:14,729 --> 01:32:18,779 And this is why they're trying to control you know, the 1471 01:32:18,809 --> 01:32:22,979 podcasts of black people. No black people, yes. Because once 1472 01:32:22,979 --> 01:32:27,899 you start getting in mass, just think if you had a large 1473 01:32:28,109 --> 01:32:31,859 contingent of black people in Canada out there, then you can't 1474 01:32:31,859 --> 01:32:37,199 deem it as far right? Or instant hate or that kind of thing, 1475 01:32:37,229 --> 01:32:37,679 right? When 1476 01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:41,100 the crowds too dark, then a lot of the tools start to wilt. 1477 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,970 Right? So that's the point and this, just bring it back to 1478 01:32:44,970 --> 01:32:49,980 where we're at. That's why this is what you see here. So I guess 1479 01:32:49,980 --> 01:32:51,660 we started 13. Let's go and get into 14. 1480 01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:56,220 Now you can't change your race. Whereas, you know, people can 1481 01:32:56,220 --> 01:32:59,700 convert religiously, right? But the Nazis didn't care if you had 1482 01:32:59,700 --> 01:33:02,100 grown up Christian. If you had three or four Jewish 1483 01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:05,580 grandparents, you were Jewish, and you were supposed to be 1484 01:33:05,580 --> 01:33:06,210 annihilated. 1485 01:33:06,630 --> 01:33:09,930 I'm wondering do you think hats? How many people you think there 1486 01:33:09,930 --> 01:33:15,090 are out there who believe that the Holocaust was not only an 1487 01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:19,350 attempt to eliminate the Jews because of their religion, but 1488 01:33:19,350 --> 01:33:22,320 also because of their race? I'm asking because there was a poll 1489 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,260 done. We know of just a couple of years ago showing a 1490 01:33:25,260 --> 01:33:30,300 surprisingly high number large percentage of young people aged 1491 01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:35,130 18 to 39, almost a quarter of them didn't have a clear memory 1492 01:33:35,130 --> 01:33:38,460 of what the Holocaust was about, what's your sense of the 1493 01:33:38,460 --> 01:33:40,500 public's understanding of office? 1494 01:33:41,490 --> 01:33:44,550 Right. So that study from the claims conference from the fall 1495 01:33:44,550 --> 01:33:47,850 of 2020 is very disturbing in terms of the numbers of people 1496 01:33:47,850 --> 01:33:50,790 who didn't know how many people were murdered in the Holocaust, 1497 01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:55,440 one in 10, under 40, had never heard the word Holocaust before 1498 01:33:55,440 --> 01:34:00,270 they said. So I think we are in a moment of diminished public 1499 01:34:00,270 --> 01:34:04,080 consciousness about the Holocaust, probably the 1990s, 1500 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,230 with many anniversaries from World War Two, with the opening 1501 01:34:07,260 --> 01:34:10,050 growth of the Holocaust Museum, what the was perhaps the height 1502 01:34:10,050 --> 01:34:13,740 moment. And now we're in a moment where it is certainly 1503 01:34:13,740 --> 01:34:18,690 disturbing. And the problem is that you cannot understand the 1504 01:34:18,690 --> 01:34:23,100 nature of anti semitism without understanding that it was racial 1505 01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:25,650 from the beginning and that the Holocaust was about race and 1506 01:34:25,650 --> 01:34:28,140 that for American Jews today, their experience of anti 1507 01:34:28,140 --> 01:34:30,570 semitism is still profoundly shaped by that. 1508 01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:35,520 Wow, man, it would be it would be so much less irritating to 1509 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:40,350 listen to that if they said and it's really important you learn 1510 01:34:40,350 --> 01:34:44,130 about the Holocaust and the plight of the Jews so that you 1511 01:34:44,130 --> 01:34:47,940 can recognize it's happening to everybody right now. You stupid 1512 01:34:47,940 --> 01:34:48,930 not nuts. 1513 01:34:50,220 --> 01:34:56,670 Yes, in this in this block, but I just want to make one more 1514 01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:04,140 point nobody Ever tells the Jewish community to get over? 1515 01:35:06,060 --> 01:35:09,180 No, like no, no, because no, they are quick to tell black 1516 01:35:09,180 --> 01:35:15,060 people was 400 years ago over it right? We still whining about 1517 01:35:15,060 --> 01:35:19,170 that. And then they'll go into textbooks and say, I think it 1518 01:35:19,170 --> 01:35:23,070 was he was saying like they're immigrants. They immigrated here 1519 01:35:23,070 --> 01:35:27,150 immigrants, I they're trying to even change the language of it's 1520 01:35:27,180 --> 01:35:31,110 almost kind of like becoming like slavery deniers of I, you 1521 01:35:31,110 --> 01:35:35,280 know, it was just immigration or it wasn't that bad. Get over it 1522 01:35:35,310 --> 01:35:39,150 now, let it go. But when you come this group, it's like, if 1523 01:35:39,150 --> 01:35:42,120 you want to say that, if someone will say, You know what, this 1524 01:35:43,260 --> 01:35:48,120 almost, almost 100 years ago, I used to harping on that, on 1525 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:54,210 that, um, Holocaust thing. You wouldn't, you would get dragged 1526 01:35:54,210 --> 01:35:59,970 out the studio. If you were going to break and you come out 1527 01:35:59,970 --> 01:36:03,480 here and leave, they will drag you out kicking the screaming. 1528 01:36:03,480 --> 01:36:07,620 So that's my point is, this is what I've made that last and 1529 01:36:07,620 --> 01:36:13,440 final point of this blog to say, it's amazing, that we're told to 1530 01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:17,310 get over it is over and done. Even though you can look 1531 01:36:17,310 --> 01:36:21,450 1950 6070s You're saying these things still went on. 1532 01:36:21,630 --> 01:36:24,570 sharecropping went on slavery and and as another name in this 1533 01:36:24,570 --> 01:36:28,170 country, they're saying for many, many decades after the 1534 01:36:28,170 --> 01:36:32,100 official slavery, and we're told to get over it, but you know, 1535 01:36:32,970 --> 01:36:36,750 nobody else if you say that you are weak, you will be kidding me 1536 01:36:36,750 --> 01:36:42,390 like, a Holocaust denier is probably the lowest thing you 1537 01:36:42,390 --> 01:36:47,400 can be. But when you get that label on you, oh, it's a rat. I 1538 01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,250 mean, like, say it's no reasons to deny it, because it happened. 1539 01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:53,550 But my point is, if you were say, to get over it, like we're 1540 01:36:53,550 --> 01:36:56,640 told to get over it, cuz I even got, I've gotten letters that 1541 01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,070 people are saying when I talk about atonement, and so I want 1542 01:36:59,070 --> 01:37:02,130 to make it clear that I'm not asking for anything. You're 1543 01:37:02,130 --> 01:37:04,080 asking me for something. I'm just telling you the price of 1544 01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:09,090 it. Let's just to be clear, you want my vote. I understand what 1545 01:37:09,090 --> 01:37:11,520 my vote is worth. So I won't be swindled out. You won't get you 1546 01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:16,290 won't get me. Right. Um, yeah. So it's just amazing how that 1547 01:37:16,290 --> 01:37:21,060 happens in you know, so that's my block on block my block on 1548 01:37:21,060 --> 01:37:26,760 Whoopi? Um, so, anything you want to say before we go, thanks 1549 01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:27,210 for people? 1550 01:37:27,660 --> 01:37:33,420 No, I, you know, I think there's, there's obviously more 1551 01:37:34,050 --> 01:37:39,000 that will, that will learn and uncover in about this now. I 1552 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,000 mean, what I what I now have is like, bang, okay, I got some 1553 01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,690 mess and realization, particularly when you said, you 1554 01:37:45,690 --> 01:37:51,090 hear how, what's your name? The lawyer, honey, sonny? Yeah, how 1555 01:37:51,090 --> 01:37:54,810 she how she jumped in right away and how she's that that's, that 1556 01:37:54,810 --> 01:37:58,740 was very interesting. And it's so hard, because I hate watching 1557 01:37:58,740 --> 01:38:01,590 that show. It's so annoying. But now I have to I got to pay 1558 01:38:01,590 --> 01:38:02,490 attention all that. 1559 01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:08,070 That was Rachel programming. And we can we can talk about it in 1560 01:38:08,130 --> 01:38:11,370 this whatever. We all have some degree of racial programming. So 1561 01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,940 her initial racial program was to agree it would be right as 1562 01:38:14,940 --> 01:38:18,660 her sister as her black sister. But then she you're saying like 1563 01:38:18,660 --> 01:38:19,020 no. 1564 01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:29,370 But that's my wrap on Whoopee. And in the first block of the 1565 01:38:29,370 --> 01:38:31,500 potlucks, I guess we could think some people now 1566 01:38:31,529 --> 01:38:34,289 yeah, this is this is a nice potluck indeed. And you're 1567 01:38:34,289 --> 01:38:36,119 stirring it up real good here firsthand, 1568 01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:39,720 right man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the 1569 01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,990 same table, the white man has to feel free to speak his mind 1570 01:38:42,990 --> 01:38:45,780 without hurting the feelings of that negro. And the so called 1571 01:38:45,780 --> 01:38:48,810 Negro has to feel free to speak in the mind without hurting the 1572 01:38:48,810 --> 01:38:51,600 feeling of the white man, then they can bring the issues that 1573 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:53,940 are under the rug out on top of the table and take an 1574 01:38:53,940 --> 01:38:55,950 intelligent approach to get the problem solved. 1575 01:38:55,979 --> 01:39:01,499 That's the only way we'll ever do it. And it should be pretty 1576 01:39:01,499 --> 01:39:06,689 obvious that the conversation we're having here is not the 1577 01:39:06,719 --> 01:39:11,729 most commercial type of talk, we could we could choose to do. So 1578 01:39:11,729 --> 01:39:16,079 that makes it obviously very complicated. And the business 1579 01:39:16,079 --> 01:39:19,739 model is the one that we employ its value for value. That's the 1580 01:39:19,739 --> 01:39:23,579 only way that this can ever take place. For all of the reasons 1581 01:39:23,579 --> 01:39:26,759 that are aforementioned certainly in entertainment. But 1582 01:39:26,759 --> 01:39:31,679 in general, just the the mechanisms of turning off your 1583 01:39:31,679 --> 01:39:36,059 income or deep platforming, as most of you know, this is 1584 01:39:36,059 --> 01:39:39,089 something that probably, you know, if it makes it to YouTube 1585 01:39:39,089 --> 01:39:41,159 probably wouldn't last very long. Maybe it will. I don't 1586 01:39:41,159 --> 01:39:47,939 know that. That type of insecurity is is not viable. And 1587 01:39:47,939 --> 01:39:52,499 it means we're not free. So we are only free to speak by the 1588 01:39:52,529 --> 01:39:55,439 value that you return in our value for value model, which 1589 01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:59,759 means you got to just determine what this is worth to you and 1590 01:39:59,759 --> 01:40:02,459 put that Put it in a number and send it to us is that simple. 1591 01:40:02,609 --> 01:40:06,449 And, and I know MO You may want to say something about that, 1592 01:40:06,449 --> 01:40:09,689 because we really kicked up the value for value. We made it very 1593 01:40:09,689 --> 01:40:14,309 clear what this is for, you know, you're, you were squeezed 1594 01:40:14,309 --> 01:40:18,419 out of a livelihood and you decided not to be a victim to 1595 01:40:18,809 --> 01:40:23,369 kick into high gear and become an entrepreneur. And, and the 1596 01:40:23,369 --> 01:40:26,009 facts fam is coming out and supporting. 1597 01:40:26,700 --> 01:40:31,710 Yes, so I just want to parallel to the first block. They offered 1598 01:40:31,710 --> 01:40:34,290 me a contract, I didn't like the terms of the contract. So I 1599 01:40:34,290 --> 01:40:37,050 walked away from the contract, you know, so I didn't feel like 1600 01:40:37,050 --> 01:40:42,750 I got got. And I'm betting on myself. And the fact family 1601 01:40:42,750 --> 01:40:46,830 really showed up and showed out and went ham with it and 1602 01:40:46,860 --> 01:40:50,820 continue to expand. I hope they continue to do this because this 1603 01:40:50,820 --> 01:40:54,600 only reassures me that we're going down the right path and 1604 01:40:54,870 --> 01:41:00,540 the it's like it's no more you like you know, give me gas 1605 01:41:00,540 --> 01:41:03,600 money, but the quicker we can take off in this runway. Like I 1606 01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,580 said, we're on a short runway, but we just need to get the 1607 01:41:05,580 --> 01:41:08,910 speed up fast enough where we can have liftoff and it's it's 1608 01:41:08,940 --> 01:41:12,210 over from there. Once we get liftoff it's gonna be around 1609 01:41:12,540 --> 01:41:13,050 well, 1610 01:41:13,890 --> 01:41:18,270 the showing for for this for today's episode is really 1611 01:41:18,270 --> 01:41:21,630 humbling. It's really super cool to see the support that everyone 1612 01:41:21,630 --> 01:41:25,950 is is coming out to show and we start off with I think without a 1613 01:41:25,950 --> 01:41:28,170 doubt the biggest baller we've had 1614 01:41:29,220 --> 01:41:32,910 shot Carla 20 blades on I am Paula 1615 01:41:32,939 --> 01:41:37,559 This is Sir sorted out who comes in as our big baller and 1616 01:41:37,559 --> 01:41:42,689 executive producer was 123456 a number could not be more 1617 01:41:42,689 --> 01:41:48,029 favorite of mine $1,234.56 And Sir sorted out thank you so 1618 01:41:48,029 --> 01:41:51,059 much. That is highly appreciated. And that's his 1619 01:41:51,059 --> 01:41:56,189 note. Keep on pouring it on. That's it. I love that. Like big 1620 01:41:56,189 --> 01:42:00,869 baller and cool about it too. We also really have to sing 1621 01:42:00,899 --> 01:42:06,659 Benjamin Ellis, who supported more facts with Adam Curry was 1622 01:42:06,659 --> 01:42:13,589 $691.57 not to be called anything small at all. And 1623 01:42:13,589 --> 01:42:16,679 here's the note and overdue donation in an effort to write 1624 01:42:16,679 --> 01:42:20,669 the scales of value. So I'm talking about just becoming a 1625 01:42:20,669 --> 01:42:23,879 part of the facts family after Adams mentioned of moe on Rogan. 1626 01:42:24,119 --> 01:42:27,119 I've listened to every episode I'm incredibly grateful to both 1627 01:42:27,119 --> 01:42:29,489 of you for the education you provide and community you've 1628 01:42:29,489 --> 01:42:32,609 built this donation on behalf of my beautiful newborn daughter 1629 01:42:32,609 --> 01:42:38,189 Naomi Alexandra Alice born February 1 2020 to welcome new 1630 01:42:38,189 --> 01:42:43,109 human resource bursting into the world in under two hours. Whoa. 1631 01:42:44,189 --> 01:42:47,279 Now that's a rush release. Yeah, good baby. Yeah, you gotta you 1632 01:42:47,279 --> 01:42:50,999 got a winner. It's also some small attempt to express my 1633 01:42:50,999 --> 01:42:55,079 gratitude to my smokin hot now fiance Alexandria. I did not 1634 01:42:55,079 --> 01:42:58,049 think it was possible to be any more and all of you but after 1635 01:42:58,049 --> 01:43:01,589 watching you give birth to our daughter how wrong I was. Niomi 1636 01:43:01,589 --> 01:43:04,349 came 19 days early on her mother's birthday throwing a 1637 01:43:04,349 --> 01:43:09,569 monkey wrench into my engagement plan for the tu tu tu tu you'll 1638 01:43:09,569 --> 01:43:15,239 never live that one down. No mommy. Your daddy won't let you 1639 01:43:15,269 --> 01:43:17,759 needless to say we had a very busy morning and couldn't have 1640 01:43:17,759 --> 01:43:20,159 dreamt of a better birthday present. I'm too tired to think 1641 01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:23,579 of jingles but please check us a D deadbeat and Mo calm before a 1642 01:43:23,579 --> 01:43:26,939 new family. We will be listening along Absolutely. 1643 01:43:27,119 --> 01:43:28,409 Congratulations you two 1644 01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,060 you're no longer dead. 1645 01:43:33,660 --> 01:43:35,520 All three of them you've got 1646 01:43:42,060 --> 01:43:47,130 oops sorry. Love stories like that. Okay, we have Hey, guys. 1647 01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:53,940 It's Sergei ninja from no agenda. Wow, this is a He sends 1648 01:43:53,940 --> 01:44:01,500 us $531.21 Fantastic. Sergei ninja writes last episode kicked 1649 01:44:01,500 --> 01:44:06,540 me to the core and made me cry. Wow. It reminded me of my father 1650 01:44:06,570 --> 01:44:09,450 and how he lost his business a few years ago before the Rona 1651 01:44:09,450 --> 01:44:13,080 and made him depressed for a couple years. He felt he failed 1652 01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,690 as a provider and leader in the family. He opened and closed 1653 01:44:15,690 --> 01:44:18,060 businesses many times but the last one was different because 1654 01:44:18,060 --> 01:44:21,660 he ran out of emergency money to start a new business. Little you 1655 01:44:21,660 --> 01:44:24,810 know, he forgot his biggest investment which is family. The 1656 01:44:24,810 --> 01:44:27,750 bankruptcy made us closer and showed true strength of our 1657 01:44:27,750 --> 01:44:30,420 family. We dealt with it and some of the children chipped in 1658 01:44:30,420 --> 01:44:33,570 to start a new business and his new new business is now better 1659 01:44:33,570 --> 01:44:36,750 than before. I also want to thank no agenda who broke the 1660 01:44:36,750 --> 01:44:39,240 spell on the road and in the beginning, I became the person 1661 01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:44,070 who applied for a new LLC, not PPP nor unemployment. Rahm 1662 01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:47,370 Emanuel said Never let a good crisis go to waste and be the 1663 01:44:47,370 --> 01:44:50,610 jack of all trade. While I'm willing to learn a new skill. 1664 01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,730 Turns out money is everywhere. If you open your eyes and mind 1665 01:44:53,730 --> 01:44:57,420 to it. entrepreneurialism is not easy money management and secret 1666 01:44:57,420 --> 01:45:00,420 pot of gold stashed somewhere are very important. Pay 1667 01:45:00,420 --> 01:45:04,290 attention Mo. You need a secret pod to go? Which somehow I think 1668 01:45:04,350 --> 01:45:08,460 you'd have. Yes. Yeah, of course you do. Thanks for the excellent 1669 01:45:08,460 --> 01:45:11,070 product can't wait for you to set up a subscription service. I 1670 01:45:11,070 --> 01:45:14,250 need to rearrange my subscription. Sorry, Spotify. I 1671 01:45:14,250 --> 01:45:18,840 have to let it go by. Wow, man. Thank you very much, Sergei 1672 01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:23,910 ninja. That's super nice. Very nice, very meaningful. That 1673 01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:28,470 note, William Girkin, $500. And loving the show. He says I 1674 01:45:28,470 --> 01:45:31,380 wasn't ready to send this but now recent events told me it was 1675 01:45:31,380 --> 01:45:35,370 time. I spare it. I can spare it and you earned it. Remember, 1676 01:45:35,370 --> 01:45:37,980 without struggle, there's no strength still recommending 1677 01:45:38,250 --> 01:45:42,480 mayor of Kingston. If you guys haven't seen it, wishing you the 1678 01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:45,690 best mo mayor of Kingston, Kingston Kingstown 1679 01:45:46,500 --> 01:45:50,370 I haven't seen that yet. Hmm. I have such a long list of people 1680 01:45:50,370 --> 01:45:52,530 recommend and stuff is like me. 1681 01:45:52,529 --> 01:45:56,999 I know. And I had to watch Lost in Space. So everything else had 1682 01:45:56,999 --> 01:45:59,609 to wait. Did you ever watch loss of space growing up? 1683 01:46:00,059 --> 01:46:04,469 I did not. I'm not a big. I'm not a big Southpaw person. Yeah, 1684 01:46:04,469 --> 01:46:04,589 but 1685 01:46:04,590 --> 01:46:07,620 it was okay. What do you what? What Sunday morning cartoons? 1686 01:46:07,620 --> 01:46:08,190 You watch 1687 01:46:11,729 --> 01:46:16,619 the classics. You know, Tom and Jerry. All do all the Looney 1688 01:46:16,619 --> 01:46:17,399 Tunes. 1689 01:46:17,550 --> 01:46:21,210 Your watch like Speed Racer shit like that? Yes. Yeah. 1690 01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:26,579 Um, anything cartoon Express? Yeah. And my favorite one of my 1691 01:46:26,579 --> 01:46:30,569 favorites is x man. That was on Fox. That was one of the Yeah, 1692 01:46:30,569 --> 01:46:35,099 no doubt. That wasn't my time. We had no X Men. We have banana 1693 01:46:35,099 --> 01:46:42,419 splits. Vance, Cody a $400. Mo You're a good man and the 1694 01:46:42,419 --> 01:46:45,959 company that let you go did didn't deserve you. fair winds 1695 01:46:45,959 --> 01:46:49,229 and following seas from this old sailor. It's Uncle mainframe. 1696 01:46:49,559 --> 01:46:53,939 Thank you Uncle mainframe. Appreciate it. We've got to 1697 01:46:53,999 --> 01:47:00,389 Travis with $400 This is so kind everybody. I'd like to dedicate 1698 01:47:00,389 --> 01:47:04,229 these bucks to my nephew Lennox B but the note is all mine. A 1699 01:47:04,229 --> 01:47:08,549 quick report from a white dude have the same birth years mo one 1700 01:47:08,549 --> 01:47:11,159 of the episodes Mo was talking about letting his wife know Hey, 1701 01:47:11,189 --> 01:47:13,769 you don't have to work we both don't need to deal with this 1702 01:47:13,769 --> 01:47:16,889 working thing. Adam was saying that white guys are like yeah, 1703 01:47:16,889 --> 01:47:19,529 go ahead and make money paraphrasing of course really? 1704 01:47:19,619 --> 01:47:24,059 Is that what I said? I guess so. I and I and several other white 1705 01:47:24,059 --> 01:47:26,939 dudes I know it would be more in most boat than Adams on that 1706 01:47:26,939 --> 01:47:30,299 matter. Maybe it's because of my experience growing up both in 1707 01:47:30,299 --> 01:47:33,059 church and just the way it was in my family. Maybe it's a 1708 01:47:33,059 --> 01:47:35,729 middle of the country thing Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, South 1709 01:47:35,729 --> 01:47:38,249 Dakota, but thank you for all for doing these shows. Really 1710 01:47:38,249 --> 01:47:41,099 enjoy the conversation and the thoughts from both of you from 1711 01:47:41,099 --> 01:47:47,159 Travis. Yeah. I mean, I grew up my parents worked. So I was a 1712 01:47:47,159 --> 01:47:50,729 latchkey kid. I guess that's where it comes from. 1713 01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:53,760 And I say that because I think housewives have the most 1714 01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:58,500 important job in the world. Getting a no doubt most 1715 01:47:58,500 --> 01:48:01,830 important job. Yeah, and they wear so many different hats so 1716 01:48:02,490 --> 01:48:03,210 mamas. 1717 01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:10,499 We have Carl lay polled $250 mo Keep up the good fight your 1718 01:48:10,499 --> 01:48:13,529 wisdom and philosophy are most appreciated and these these are 1719 01:48:13,679 --> 01:48:20,039 beautiful notes. We have tiger Auntie 1720 01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:21,510 Tiger auntie, 1721 01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:26,160 Auntie. Oh my goodness Love me some tiger auntie. Here it is 1722 01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,940 happy happy years the tiger from Resident Tiger auntie. As this 1723 01:48:29,940 --> 01:48:33,180 is my lunar birth. Here I'm sharing my karma with the facts 1724 01:48:33,180 --> 01:48:37,110 family and pledged to do my best to help most sore and this is 1725 01:48:37,110 --> 01:48:41,250 $240. It's a birthday donation in honor of my lovely nephew 1726 01:48:41,250 --> 01:48:44,580 Mason whose February 4 celebration mark his first 1727 01:48:44,580 --> 01:48:48,000 decade around the sun. It was this persistent inquiry about 1728 01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:52,200 BLM and racism that inspired me to seek for understanding. Most 1729 01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,860 first 60 episodes can be easily translated as study companions 1730 01:48:55,860 --> 01:48:58,920 for US History curriculum. Mason, I are working through the 1731 01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:03,000 third episode together. To Mason I say I wish you health heart 1732 01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:06,870 wisdom and prosperity. Build callus on your feet to tread 1733 01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:10,050 firmly the long road ahead, build muscles in your arms to 1734 01:49:10,050 --> 01:49:13,020 embrace those you love while leaving room for those who don't 1735 01:49:13,410 --> 01:49:15,990 build a resilient heart to withstand heart aches and all 1736 01:49:15,990 --> 01:49:19,050 the excitement that life will bring. Think with compassion and 1737 01:49:19,050 --> 01:49:21,720 feel with measured wisdom. Remember that pain is your 1738 01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:25,200 body's way of telling you to pay attention. So know thyself to 1739 01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:26,700 that you will learn to know others 1740 01:49:27,540 --> 01:49:33,120 ah. And I left it right there. That's Tiger Auntie right there 1741 01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:36,630 and the value she's bringing. Y'all gonna see y'all we work. 1742 01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:41,580 The fax machine is turning on all cylinders. And we're gonna 1743 01:49:41,580 --> 01:49:47,370 have some cool stuff for y'all in the near future. I can't 1744 01:49:47,370 --> 01:49:50,340 wait. Can we get maximum biscuit please? 1745 01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:55,500 I think we can. Hold on a second needs will always give me a 1746 01:49:55,500 --> 01:50:03,720 biscuit on my birthday. Beautiful John blade, road ducks 1747 01:50:03,870 --> 01:50:09,480 or I guess we will call them Canada geese for this week. Tu 1748 01:50:09,480 --> 01:50:12,810 Tu, Tu, tu tu, we're a modern family, my sister adopted three 1749 01:50:12,810 --> 01:50:16,920 black girls. They're 2015 and 13 into her same sex marriage and 1750 01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:21,990 my gay brother. Well, let's just say he has a type. Thank you for 1751 01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:25,710 being so open everybody. In short, our lives are enriched by 1752 01:50:25,710 --> 01:50:28,020 long and meaningful relationships with people of all 1753 01:50:28,020 --> 01:50:31,590 types. I've tried to be a positive masculine role model 1754 01:50:31,590 --> 01:50:34,890 for my nieces. But I'm acutely aware that some lessons I can't 1755 01:50:34,890 --> 01:50:37,710 teach them. And sadly, they're all trapped in the political 1756 01:50:37,710 --> 01:50:42,900 binary R or D false choice. The Aman arbory shocked shocked my 1757 01:50:42,900 --> 01:50:47,070 being as he was not much older than my oldest niece. I felt 1758 01:50:47,070 --> 01:50:49,620 compelled to action, but only found the official narrative. 1759 01:50:49,620 --> 01:50:53,220 And then I found mo facts with Adam curry. Mo through this 1760 01:50:53,220 --> 01:50:56,100 work, you've provided me with invaluable knowledge to help me 1761 01:50:56,100 --> 01:50:58,590 understand the depths of the challenges that lay before my 1762 01:50:58,590 --> 01:51:02,100 family. I can't thank you enough for what you do. But someday, I 1763 01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:06,450 hope to make all of them. All of them part of the facts, family, 1764 01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:09,600 your strength and resilience are inspiring, keep doing the Lord's 1765 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:14,100 work. And May these Angel numbers help you achieve. 1766 01:51:16,590 --> 01:51:18,000 He might have ran out of space, I 1767 01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:22,380 think so. help you achieve I'm going to finish it your dreams. 1768 01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:26,100 Yes. That's how I this is this is nice. And this is not an 1769 01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:32,280 uncommon note that we get from people in mixed families and my 1770 01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:37,350 understanding of of each other things and you just you can't 1771 01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:41,490 get it from. You can't access this kind of information and 1772 01:51:41,490 --> 01:51:45,270 experience easily. It doesn't seem to be in books. 1773 01:51:45,630 --> 01:51:48,600 It's the level of honesty that we're allowed to have with each 1774 01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,870 other. Be interesting. I think it's just people feel it 1775 01:51:51,870 --> 01:51:55,830 vicariously. Yes. And you know, and it makes drove back out to 1776 01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:57,360 you're saying in their personal lives 1777 01:51:57,390 --> 01:52:02,610 and it's infectious. Yes, it really is. Okay, Eric Adler 1778 01:52:02,610 --> 01:52:06,150 $200. Amazing work. Eric says that d debt maybe beat me 1779 01:52:06,150 --> 01:52:06,660 please. 1780 01:52:07,620 --> 01:52:12,900 Congratulation. You're no longer a deadbeat. 1781 01:52:13,380 --> 01:52:18,240 Robert donahey $200 Be strong. Be accountable. Never complain 1782 01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:21,480 moan Adam, you embody these words. Mo enjoy your new 1783 01:52:21,480 --> 01:52:25,860 freedom. The best is yet to come. Absolutely. Elijah Heinz. 1784 01:52:25,860 --> 01:52:30,780 $200. Oh my goodness, this now this is value for value. Love 1785 01:52:30,780 --> 01:52:35,100 this. Elijah says thank you for the fantastic show. Thank you 1786 01:52:35,100 --> 01:52:39,870 for the value you place on Elijah. Alexander bt $200. Mo 1787 01:52:39,870 --> 01:52:42,240 back in October, I learned that my company was enforcing a 1788 01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:45,810 vaccine mandate. I'm a mobile dev dude named Ben. I love my 1789 01:52:45,810 --> 01:52:49,230 job. But no job is worth your dignity. I would rather quit and 1790 01:52:49,230 --> 01:52:52,500 find a company that respects my bodily autonomy. I won't take 1791 01:52:52,500 --> 01:52:55,380 the religious exemption which would make you test regularly 1792 01:52:55,410 --> 01:52:59,730 even if what the even if working from home. I don't consent to 1793 01:52:59,730 --> 01:53:02,730 letting my medical data being sampled and possibly used for 1794 01:53:02,730 --> 01:53:06,030 other purposes like files into my dossier for Global Medical 1795 01:53:06,030 --> 01:53:09,750 passports someday by some entity. Since then, I've been on 1796 01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:12,900 the job hunt in December, my company's parent company dropped 1797 01:53:12,900 --> 01:53:15,480 the mandate. So my company dropped ours. I'm still 1798 01:53:15,480 --> 01:53:21,300 interviewing just in case have have won this show day. In fact, 1799 01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,120 however, I'm single with no kids, unlike you, and now it 1800 01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:27,780 seems like my corporate job is safe, unlike yours. So 1801 01:53:27,780 --> 01:53:30,570 congratulations on becoming a full time podcaster a vow of 1802 01:53:30,570 --> 01:53:39,480 poverty. Sincerely, sir economic hitman. I made that part up. You 1803 01:53:39,480 --> 01:53:44,130 know, a wasn't gonna say he that's a very good point he 1804 01:53:44,130 --> 01:53:47,670 makes I read just today that the CDC and they're and they're 1805 01:53:47,670 --> 01:53:50,430 proud of this, they say hey, remember that PCR test you did? 1806 01:53:51,090 --> 01:53:54,030 It's possible that about 10% of all of those tests have been 1807 01:53:54,660 --> 01:53:57,150 given to scientists for genomic research. 1808 01:53:58,830 --> 01:54:01,500 They can't 23 amaze you so they had to give it another way. 1809 01:54:01,859 --> 01:54:03,719 I mean, that's infuriating. 1810 01:54:05,310 --> 01:54:09,450 And one more thing I want to point out this wasn't hubris 1811 01:54:09,540 --> 01:54:16,170 this was about my dignity and if you don't have that in any 1812 01:54:16,170 --> 01:54:18,750 situation then you can't you know you're never be the same if 1813 01:54:18,750 --> 01:54:21,990 you if you compromise that that's right that I'm glad he 1814 01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:24,810 pointed out in his letter it's all about your dignity. That's 1815 01:54:24,810 --> 01:54:25,140 right. 1816 01:54:27,930 --> 01:54:30,120 Gosh, this is such a good segment I love this. 1817 01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:33,660 This man read us on these boats many almost made me Van Jones 1818 01:54:33,660 --> 01:54:35,640 worthy almost they almost got me 1819 01:54:39,930 --> 01:54:45,930 Isaac Contreras 133 33 some magic numbers right there much 1820 01:54:45,930 --> 01:54:49,050 love and respect Mo and Adam. I have only recently within the 1821 01:54:49,050 --> 01:54:51,870 last year become a listener to no agenda even more so recently 1822 01:54:51,870 --> 01:54:54,930 become a listener to more facts. Both are equally as important to 1823 01:54:54,930 --> 01:54:57,660 those of us who appreciate critical thinking and peering 1824 01:54:57,660 --> 01:55:00,540 beyond the veil of ignorance. Thank you for your Knowledge and 1825 01:55:00,540 --> 01:55:05,250 Wisdom Pati Krishna, thank you very much Isaac. Jennifer Dornie 1826 01:55:05,250 --> 01:55:09,570 127 dot 27 mo small contribution with lots of love and 1827 01:55:09,570 --> 01:55:13,200 appreciation. What has happened to you is madness. I believe 1828 01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:16,740 this is our generations pivotal moment. Jordan Peterson gave a 1829 01:55:16,740 --> 01:55:19,950 talk this week on on his rule, opportunity lurks where 1830 01:55:19,950 --> 01:55:23,280 responsibility has been abdicated. You have been given 1831 01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,100 this opportunity. This is out of context and you didn't hear the 1832 01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:29,790 talk, but you could have pulled the sword from the stone. Don't 1833 01:55:29,790 --> 01:55:33,480 be afraid to wield it. We are all here cheering you on. Keep 1834 01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:36,480 the light keep shining the light in the dark places. Let's go 1835 01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:42,750 facts fam. That's Jen Dorney 27 How nice is that? Mo. 1836 01:55:43,950 --> 01:55:47,010 I'm trying to tell you man ways. It's a lot of love a lot of 1837 01:55:47,010 --> 01:55:47,310 love. 1838 01:55:48,330 --> 01:55:55,950 Yes. Well, and it's and I like so much that. You know, we kind 1839 01:55:55,950 --> 01:55:59,130 of bootstrapped a bit with no agenda, but now the sfax fam is 1840 01:55:59,130 --> 01:56:03,420 such an entity. Hmm, it's really beautiful. Really nice to see 1841 01:56:03,420 --> 01:56:09,480 how all of that melts. is not something I got to tell you 1842 01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:13,470 something later. I just had a thought. Justin, how we 1843 01:56:13,470 --> 01:56:16,380 continue. Justin, how come? I think how soon we're How come? 1844 01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:17,580 One write 1845 01:56:17,580 --> 01:56:21,870 it down? Right? Yeah, no? Idea. Yes. I just met you right now. 1846 01:56:24,030 --> 01:56:28,680 Boom. Boom. Oh, 1847 01:56:29,010 --> 01:56:35,460 thank you. Write that down. All right. Value for value. 240 dot 1848 01:56:35,460 --> 01:56:42,540 54%. Is Us and inflation rates since 1980. Says Justin. Yeah, 1849 01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:46,380 yeah, it was a hey, I remember when a pickup truck cost $5,000. 1850 01:56:47,940 --> 01:56:48,990 That was a toy number 1851 01:56:48,990 --> 01:56:53,490 of soda cost. 25 cents. Yeah, exactly. I can sell does that 1852 01:56:53,490 --> 01:56:55,710 just tell you how far we how far we've gone. 1853 01:56:55,740 --> 01:57:02,670 Hey, hey, MO. I write in Cork. $100. That's the paper refill 1854 01:57:02,670 --> 01:57:06,480 for the fax machine. Thank you very much. We didn't need that. 1855 01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:09,390 We did the fax machine needed more paper? Yes. Excellent. 1856 01:57:09,690 --> 01:57:13,770 David Drake. $100 mo, thank you for what you're going to do. Cuz 1857 01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:18,570 you by the way, I gotta mention this. This is This is Adam and 1858 01:57:18,570 --> 01:57:23,220 MO real real time. Right? So after the show was like, we 1859 01:57:23,220 --> 01:57:25,740 talked about a title and I don't remember how it came out. Okay, 1860 01:57:25,740 --> 01:57:30,360 what are you gonna do cuz I this is great title. And so we we 1861 01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:36,960 hang up. And, and then mo text me the exact way to spell it. 1862 01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:39,690 And I love you for that brother. Because you know, I wouldn't be 1863 01:57:39,690 --> 01:57:43,200 fucking I wouldn't be insulted by it. And I was like, Oh, shit, 1864 01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:45,090 I never would have done the Double Z. 1865 01:57:46,380 --> 01:57:49,470 And I had to make sure for each class. Like I've set it exactly 1866 01:57:49,470 --> 01:57:53,910 how he sends it to me saying frequently, like, so I want to 1867 01:57:53,910 --> 01:57:55,380 make sure we got it exactly right. 1868 01:57:55,410 --> 01:57:59,490 That was that was so beautiful. I'm like, Yes, he that's he 1869 01:57:59,490 --> 01:58:02,010 knows. He knows. He knows. He knows I'm not going to get that 1870 01:58:02,010 --> 01:58:06,840 right. And I and I was like, I wonder how I should do that. And 1871 01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,990 boom, there it was. Anyway, back to David's know what you're 1872 01:58:09,990 --> 01:58:12,780 gonna do? Cuz you touched on a lot of universals with all men 1873 01:58:12,780 --> 01:58:16,020 regardless of race. Absolutely. It made me reach out to a buddy 1874 01:58:16,020 --> 01:58:19,200 of mine who's going through some stuff that I can relate relate 1875 01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:22,440 to. Because of that he and I'll be hanging out tomorrow night. 1876 01:58:22,620 --> 01:58:26,130 Thanks, brother be well live love and love life from Dave 1877 01:58:26,130 --> 01:58:30,210 Drake. See, that kind of note. Thank you. That's that's very 1878 01:58:30,210 --> 01:58:35,100 valuable to the show to hear that. Collin Preston $100 mo as 1879 01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:37,530 a fellow entrepreneur, I can assure you that being liberated 1880 01:58:37,530 --> 01:58:39,990 from your old job is one of the best things that will ever 1881 01:58:39,990 --> 01:58:42,960 happen to you. 10 years from now, you will reflect back on 1882 01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:46,230 this as being a blessing in disguise. Hold your head high 1883 01:58:46,230 --> 01:58:50,010 and take great pride in being self employed, it's a lot easier 1884 01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:53,130 to punch a clock. If you keep doing what you do so well then 1885 01:58:53,130 --> 01:58:56,100 doors will always open for you. Absolutely. 1886 01:58:56,520 --> 01:59:00,510 And that is a whole fat right there. Because there is no 1887 01:59:00,510 --> 01:59:05,640 weekday or weekend anymore is every day is a work day, every 1888 01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:10,380 day. But I enjoy that I enjoy and I don't know what that is 1889 01:59:10,410 --> 01:59:12,660 you never worked hard and you work for yourself. 1890 01:59:13,319 --> 01:59:18,299 That's right. And I personally find it that I've never enjoyed 1891 01:59:18,299 --> 01:59:22,139 working as much myself. I'm a great boss to myself, I really 1892 01:59:22,139 --> 01:59:24,419 am. I give myself a lot of free time. 1893 01:59:25,290 --> 01:59:27,300 I'm a terrible boss to myself, Oh, you'll 1894 01:59:27,300 --> 01:59:30,780 learn, you'll learn, you'll learn you'll get there. And by 1895 01:59:30,780 --> 01:59:34,170 the way, because of the length of the notes. We're gonna do up 1896 01:59:34,170 --> 01:59:38,340 to up through 100 and then we'll take and then we'll go back and 1897 01:59:38,340 --> 01:59:41,220 we'll we'll start the next block at 80. Mo What do you say? 1898 01:59:41,670 --> 01:59:44,520 That'll work and anybody that feels like we didn't get your 1899 01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:47,280 note? We're saying there's something important you want to 1900 01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:51,540 be sad. You can bring it over to the Lost Tapes. And I'll address 1901 01:59:51,540 --> 01:59:54,240 it there so just sent me a quick email saying if we missed out on 1902 01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:56,790 you, I just want to make sure you don't make the show too 1903 01:59:56,790 --> 01:59:57,360 long. 1904 01:59:57,569 --> 02:00:00,449 Then that's exactly it and you know and this There's always the 1905 02:00:00,449 --> 02:00:04,019 problem but I feel there's no content though. It's still 1906 02:00:04,019 --> 02:00:07,679 content. This I mean, this stuff was fantastic content. It really 1907 02:00:07,679 --> 02:00:10,709 is. This is what I like about the value for value model. 1908 02:00:12,089 --> 02:00:16,289 Anthony Magner did not send a note $100 Thank you, Miguel, SB 1909 02:00:16,289 --> 02:00:25,259 now gave us a couple of arm pump emojis. Strong Arm emojis. Yeah. 1910 02:00:26,549 --> 02:00:32,039 Ryan Cheers $100 No note, Clinton $100 Once a WUSA 1911 02:00:37,980 --> 02:00:42,120 oops, actually, let me do these next ones because we're almost 1912 02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:42,480 there. 1913 02:00:44,430 --> 02:00:47,580 Ryan shares he also has given us a time and talent and 1914 02:00:47,670 --> 02:00:49,950 contributed a fax machine as well so I gotta get get of 1915 02:00:49,950 --> 02:00:50,460 course. 1916 02:00:51,779 --> 02:00:58,379 Jacob Bowman Smith Hey, Mo $80.08 a boob donation. Hey, mon 1917 02:00:58,379 --> 02:01:00,779 Adam, thanks for the excellent shows you to create a quit my 1918 02:01:00,779 --> 02:01:04,709 job at Trader Joe's two months ago because they required weekly 1919 02:01:04,709 --> 02:01:09,209 PCR testing starting January 22. For those who have refused to be 1920 02:01:09,209 --> 02:01:12,899 vaccinated, as I'm unboxed I saw the clear discrimination is 1921 02:01:12,899 --> 02:01:16,019 anyone can get COVID And anyone can spread COVID Also, 1922 02:01:16,019 --> 02:01:19,889 illogically, I would have to be able to work while awaiting test 1923 02:01:19,889 --> 02:01:24,749 results. Of course, theater is crazy during Christmas and New 1924 02:01:24,749 --> 02:01:28,169 Years. My provider Kaiser Permanente refused to give 1925 02:01:28,169 --> 02:01:30,899 testing to anyone who didn't have symptoms or needed to test 1926 02:01:30,899 --> 02:01:34,229 to work click coercion to get the shot and now looking for 1927 02:01:34,229 --> 02:01:38,099 work and would appreciate a huge mo facts job Karp job karma to 1928 02:01:38,099 --> 02:01:40,949 help me along my way to a new career working from home 1929 02:01:40,949 --> 02:01:43,979 remotely. I'd love you to like brothers and with God's help I 1930 02:01:43,979 --> 02:01:48,599 know you will pull through mo Well I think that is absolutely 1931 02:01:49,169 --> 02:01:53,579 absolutely the case. I see if I get some some good jobs karma 1932 02:01:53,579 --> 02:01:57,389 here for you. With a little bit of Mo on top of that, I think we 1933 02:01:57,389 --> 02:02:05,399 got jobs jobs like that one 1934 02:02:05,399 --> 02:02:06,449 better on a flat. 1935 02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:11,730 Yeah, I like that one. Edwin Taurus. $80 Thank you guys. GBG 1936 02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:18,210 give Black's guns. Like for the t shirt. Jonathan Peckham 7676 1937 02:02:18,210 --> 02:02:21,330 He says I turned 18 My first week of Marine Corps boot camp 1938 02:02:21,330 --> 02:02:27,360 in 2008. My platoon was 3076 Mic company Semper Fi Marines. Thank 1939 02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:30,630 you Mo and Adam also this is my third donation and I haven't 1940 02:02:30,630 --> 02:02:33,720 been D deadbeat ID dealer's choice karma please keep up the 1941 02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:36,510 good work well that's an oversight we got to correct that 1942 02:02:36,540 --> 02:02:44,190 congratulation. You're no longer dead you've got 1943 02:02:48,899 --> 02:02:56,189 a go always nice to see the Marines Good to have you on our 1944 02:02:56,189 --> 02:03:06,089 side we're not dummies. Let's see. Sir Paul the book guy want 1945 02:03:06,089 --> 02:03:10,619 to serve Paul the book guys say as I said I was fired by 1946 02:03:10,619 --> 02:03:14,159 corporate for about 15 minutes until after my regional manager 1947 02:03:14,159 --> 02:03:17,309 called and said hey man, you're exempt Okay, anyway, I feel you 1948 02:03:17,309 --> 02:03:22,709 man get a lawyer once all the COVID wrap is over sue their ass 1949 02:03:22,709 --> 02:03:29,519 stay strong. You know a lot of people talk about these things. 1950 02:03:29,939 --> 02:03:33,449 I personally I mean, I think you probably with me on this mall. I 1951 02:03:33,449 --> 02:03:36,509 think we got no time for that. You know time 1952 02:03:37,350 --> 02:03:40,320 just waiting for that. Have you or your family member have been 1953 02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:41,610 fired dude. Yeah. 1954 02:03:43,380 --> 02:03:46,050 Yeah, exact Well, if it's just filling out a form and they send 1955 02:03:46,050 --> 02:03:48,930 you some money that's probably worth doing. But that'll happen. 1956 02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:49,830 You'll get those 1957 02:03:49,950 --> 02:03:53,610 some lawyers in Where's platinum newsletter net net take down 1958 02:03:53,610 --> 02:03:58,110 right now. Oh, yeah. Karma for free. Okay, it's gonna happen. 1959 02:03:58,710 --> 02:04:02,640 But I'm not gonna waste my time trying to fight them. And 1960 02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:06,060 Arizona has some interesting stuff going on as well. So I'll 1961 02:04:06,060 --> 02:04:07,620 let those two entities handle that. 1962 02:04:08,010 --> 02:04:11,580 Yeah, but appreciate the support. Yes, definitely. 1963 02:04:11,580 --> 02:04:15,030 Michael muck. McGurk. McGuirk? I think McCourt 1964 02:04:15,059 --> 02:04:18,389 let me stop that. Hold on. Wait, is less there so FX family 1965 02:04:18,389 --> 02:04:20,909 member that wants to contribute some some legal 1966 02:04:20,910 --> 02:04:21,360 time? 1967 02:04:22,770 --> 02:04:26,820 Pro bono now. There you go. All right. spit in the face of any 1968 02:04:26,820 --> 02:04:28,320 value that way. Okay. You go. 1969 02:04:29,069 --> 02:04:32,159 There's my American friend. There you go. We'll see if we 1970 02:04:32,159 --> 02:04:35,279 can sue you. Hey, we're all Americans when it comes to that. 1971 02:04:36,539 --> 02:04:39,719 Michael McGurk Keep up the good work and fighting the good 1972 02:04:39,719 --> 02:04:43,439 fight. It's hard not to get demoralized or pushed into being 1973 02:04:43,439 --> 02:04:47,249 an extreme reactionary by the mainstream narrative, and news. 1974 02:04:47,489 --> 02:04:50,189 So I'm mostly tuned out and focus on my work, family and 1975 02:04:50,189 --> 02:04:53,099 friends, but even through your personal struggles. I'm happy to 1976 02:04:53,099 --> 02:04:55,919 hear your guy's point of view. I haven't donated in a while so 1977 02:04:55,919 --> 02:04:59,069 kind of have a D deadbeat and matching Husar for my wife who 1978 02:04:59,069 --> 02:05:02,999 was graduating School in May. Yes, absolutely. Thank you. 1979 02:05:03,300 --> 02:05:07,740 Congratulations. You're no longer a debt. 1980 02:05:12,899 --> 02:05:18,119 And that was 60 $69. Thank you very much. Daniel Hollingsworth. 1981 02:05:18,119 --> 02:05:22,349 6633 says I appreciate what you do and the sacrifices make you 1982 02:05:22,349 --> 02:05:27,479 to be genuine. Thank you, Daniel. And Daniel Fletcher $60 1983 02:05:27,479 --> 02:05:32,879 says thank you. And then finally, Kent, Elgin, $55. No 1984 02:05:32,879 --> 02:05:35,549 note, and we will be thanking the rest of our list a little 1985 02:05:35,549 --> 02:05:38,909 bit later on. 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I thought YouTube on 2047 02:10:26,519 --> 02:10:31,199 episode 74 And on one take that YouTube so what did they took it 2048 02:10:31,199 --> 02:10:33,629 down? Is that was that what happened? Oh, yeah, they took it 2049 02:10:33,629 --> 02:10:37,559 down because I use some use under fair use. I use some clips 2050 02:10:37,559 --> 02:10:40,829 from the different world show. It was the episode where they 2051 02:10:40,829 --> 02:10:47,189 did the the kind of like a satirical thing with the whole 2052 02:10:49,709 --> 02:10:53,879 Clarence Thomas trial. Oh, yeah, sure. I said much more fair use 2053 02:10:53,879 --> 02:10:57,779 Fair Use fair use, and they steal ticket now. And then I 2054 02:10:57,809 --> 02:11:00,959 challenge you. I'm not I'm not editing my videos anymore. So I 2055 02:11:00,959 --> 02:11:03,269 challenge that, you know, What, did he send you a letter saying, 2056 02:11:03,269 --> 02:11:08,969 Oh, you want your copy back? Right. Yeah, right. Exactly. 2057 02:11:09,929 --> 02:11:16,139 Your time. Your time is not. Right. Right. So, um, yes. I 2058 02:11:16,139 --> 02:11:18,389 just wanna remind people of that, because that's not still 2059 02:11:18,419 --> 02:11:23,039 are you 75. But, and we'll get that before, you know, maybe the 2060 02:11:23,039 --> 02:11:25,469 weekends out, just to remind people that you know, what's 2061 02:11:25,469 --> 02:11:28,919 going on over there. Okay, so yeah, so um, I guess we go on 2062 02:11:28,919 --> 02:11:35,579 into the B Block. Yep. Yeah, so, number 18. 2063 02:11:36,210 --> 02:11:39,660 The Washington Examiner reporting that the Black Lives 2064 02:11:39,660 --> 02:11:44,040 Matter organization is halting online fundraising, after facing 2065 02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:47,760 scrutiny for missing financial records. The California 2066 02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:49,740 Department of Justice threatening to hold the 2067 02:11:49,740 --> 02:11:54,210 foundation's leaders personally liable if they fail to disclose 2068 02:11:54,210 --> 02:11:58,740 details of the $60 million in donations that it received in 2069 02:11:58,740 --> 02:12:02,340 the next two months. Here now is Andrew Kerr, Washington 2070 02:12:02,340 --> 02:12:05,910 Examiner, investigative reporter. Incredible work, 2071 02:12:05,940 --> 02:12:09,960 Andrew, what do you know right now about these developments, 2072 02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:13,890 right. So Black Lives Matter is a is a public charity. That 2073 02:12:13,890 --> 02:12:16,470 means that they have an obligation to disclose your 2074 02:12:16,470 --> 02:12:19,200 basic information about their finances to the public 2075 02:12:19,530 --> 02:12:22,500 information about their leadership and your information 2076 02:12:22,500 --> 02:12:25,260 about where they actually reside. And Black Lives Matter 2077 02:12:25,260 --> 02:12:28,890 has provided none of that information, information on 2078 02:12:28,890 --> 02:12:32,190 their 2020 finances a year in which they closed that with 60 2079 02:12:32,190 --> 02:12:36,120 million in their bank accounts, is months late. We tried to go 2080 02:12:36,120 --> 02:12:40,560 to their Los Angeles address my colleague did last week and was 2081 02:12:40,560 --> 02:12:43,980 told by a security guard that Black Lives Matter has never had 2082 02:12:43,980 --> 02:12:47,430 an office here. And we constantly get packages that we 2083 02:12:47,430 --> 02:12:49,770 have to read for black lives matter that we have to return 2084 02:12:49,770 --> 02:12:54,240 back to sender, and their board members won't disclose who has 2085 02:12:54,240 --> 02:12:57,450 been in charge of the charity for the past eight months, when 2086 02:12:57,450 --> 02:13:00,840 its former co founder, or when his co founder Patrisse Cullors. 2087 02:13:00,870 --> 02:13:04,380 left the organization last May amid scrutiny over her own 2088 02:13:04,380 --> 02:13:08,310 personal real estate purchase purchases. She appointed two co 2089 02:13:08,310 --> 02:13:11,640 executive directors to lead the organization. But they quietly 2090 02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:14,640 announced in September that we're not taking the job because 2091 02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:16,770 we can't come to an agreement with Black Lives Matter. 2092 02:13:17,700 --> 02:13:19,950 Whoa, gee, who could have seen that coming? 2093 02:13:21,060 --> 02:13:21,960 God, 2094 02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:24,780 I mean, seriously, that is so surprising. 2095 02:13:25,590 --> 02:13:31,110 It isn't even amazing how you can transact that much cash and 2096 02:13:31,110 --> 02:13:34,410 operate for this long I mean, they've been operating now for 2097 02:13:34,410 --> 02:13:40,890 it since 2014 15. Yeah. Official on the books were in 2022 and 2098 02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:45,720 all of a sudden now you want we want to talk about money who's 2099 02:13:45,720 --> 02:13:49,080 in charge that kind of thing? This is what I would call it 2100 02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:52,950 weight burning when you burn somebody. Yeah, they're they're 2101 02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:59,190 burning their agents of course. What this is this is the thing 2102 02:13:59,190 --> 02:14:01,920 you didn't really you didn't know how this was gonna go. I 2103 02:14:01,920 --> 02:14:04,740 mean, throughout all of history. I'm talking to the incident 2104 02:14:04,740 --> 02:14:08,130 members of Black Lives Matter leadership. You didn't know you 2105 02:14:08,130 --> 02:14:09,570 didn't see how this was gonna go 2106 02:14:10,710 --> 02:14:17,550 unbelievable. I mean, and it's corporate money to buy Coca Cola 2107 02:14:17,550 --> 02:14:25,110 and Papa money 2108 02:14:27,810 --> 02:14:34,110 much better. Yeah. So my point is one if you're so 2109 02:14:34,140 --> 02:14:39,600 knowledgeable and black history and revolutionary tactics, you 2110 02:14:39,600 --> 02:14:43,500 got to notice as part of it that's what they call breaking 2111 02:14:43,500 --> 02:14:46,140 their tools. You know, once they you know, they're done they're 2112 02:14:46,140 --> 02:14:50,370 done with them. Yeah. So now is these three women were the you 2113 02:14:50,370 --> 02:14:53,580 know, the blame for everything that happened in black lives 2114 02:14:53,580 --> 02:14:58,770 matter. But no matter how, how I disagree with their tactics and 2115 02:14:58,770 --> 02:15:03,030 their ideology, I will not stand aside and let him take the blame 2116 02:15:03,090 --> 02:15:06,180 all alone. No, we should be. Right, that would be 2117 02:15:06,180 --> 02:15:07,620 disingenuous. That's, 2118 02:15:07,830 --> 02:15:13,230 that's the same as blaming Dr. Dre and Snoop and all them guys 2119 02:15:13,410 --> 02:15:14,220 without talking about. 2120 02:15:16,319 --> 02:15:18,449 Now you're starting to see the truth. I mean, of course you saw 2121 02:15:18,449 --> 02:15:23,129 but it's the connective tissue between these blocks on the 2122 02:15:23,129 --> 02:15:27,869 potluck. But just to remind people that may have forgotten. 2123 02:15:28,109 --> 02:15:32,489 We're gonna go over to Dave Pakman. This is from Episode 2124 02:15:32,489 --> 02:15:36,419 Seven, about about who was really funding Black Lives 2125 02:15:36,419 --> 02:15:37,559 Matter. And 2126 02:15:37,590 --> 02:15:43,110 I have a very, very specific idea that we need to explore 2127 02:15:43,110 --> 02:15:47,310 seriously, which is that the anti Bernie Sanders tinge of the 2128 02:15:47,310 --> 02:15:51,690 Black Lives Matter movement recently could be George Soros 2129 02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:54,810 funded astroturf, and I will speak as specifically as 2130 02:15:54,810 --> 02:15:57,510 possible, Louis, and then I will allow you, Louis to tell me what 2131 02:15:57,510 --> 02:16:01,200 you think about this. It's widely on record, that George 2132 02:16:01,200 --> 02:16:05,970 Soros, the liberal billionaire has poured a ton of money into 2133 02:16:05,970 --> 02:16:09,090 two movements that were instrumental in creating Black 2134 02:16:09,090 --> 02:16:13,110 Lives Matter and the buzzword dating back to January, we knew 2135 02:16:13,110 --> 02:16:17,790 that George Soros spent over $30 million bankrolling Ferguson 2136 02:16:17,790 --> 02:16:20,760 demonstrators and of course, Ferguson relates to Officer 2137 02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:24,660 Darren Wilson, who killed unarmed teenager Michael Brown 2138 02:16:24,660 --> 02:16:28,680 and was ultimately not charged. This includes support by George 2139 02:16:28,680 --> 02:16:33,240 Soros of groups like color lines, news for action, an 2140 02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:37,530 organization for black struggle, which established itself then 2141 02:16:37,530 --> 02:16:41,400 established the hands up coalition. Soros also gave money 2142 02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:45,210 to the Drug Policy Alliance, which worked on pushing Black 2143 02:16:45,210 --> 02:16:48,540 Lives Matter as a bud buzzword, which has since been 2144 02:16:48,540 --> 02:16:51,720 incorporated into speech speeches by political figures, 2145 02:16:51,720 --> 02:16:53,010 including Hillary Clinton. 2146 02:16:53,370 --> 02:16:57,540 Mm hmm. So just remember, you know, we're not gonna let these 2147 02:16:57,540 --> 02:17:01,470 three sisters twist in the wind, every day of criminal cases are 2148 02:17:01,470 --> 02:17:05,910 going to come down and just tying into the first block. You 2149 02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:09,420 remember anytime you mentioned the worst Soros Yeah, it was 2150 02:17:09,420 --> 02:17:14,130 anti semitic. Now, that's why I use the clip from Mr. David 2151 02:17:14,130 --> 02:17:18,990 Pakman. Because he was born to us nightsky Fs I can't say that 2152 02:17:19,110 --> 02:17:22,590 Eskenazi Ashkenazi Jewish family. 2153 02:17:23,340 --> 02:17:25,800 So how does that work? 2154 02:17:26,100 --> 02:17:28,830 You let me know how that went. And that's why we can't paint 2155 02:17:28,830 --> 02:17:34,260 with a wide brush either. Yeah, that's why be specific to who 2156 02:17:34,260 --> 02:17:38,190 you're talking about. Because we have people pointing out things 2157 02:17:38,190 --> 02:17:41,940 and bringing things to attention. But we saw on Fox 2158 02:17:41,940 --> 02:17:44,730 News, I thought, right, they ran somebody off the air live. 2159 02:17:45,780 --> 02:17:47,610 Right. You can't you can't say soil. 2160 02:17:47,639 --> 02:17:48,689 Right, right, right. 2161 02:17:50,399 --> 02:17:52,589 I can't find I can't remember who's standing 2162 02:17:53,250 --> 02:17:56,790 on the clue was that it was sure it was Fox. 2163 02:17:57,210 --> 02:18:00,300 It was Fox. It was definitely Fox. Cuz you know, I was gonna 2164 02:18:00,300 --> 02:18:05,670 say Soros. I mean, we know that to be false. But I think it was 2165 02:18:05,730 --> 02:18:10,230 a was it the mayor? Was it the mayor of New York? The former 2166 02:18:10,230 --> 02:18:10,920 mayor of New York 2167 02:18:10,949 --> 02:18:13,559 was is this from real Bill O'Reilly days? 2168 02:18:14,880 --> 02:18:17,400 I don't it was, it was recent enough that we were doing the 2169 02:18:17,400 --> 02:18:23,310 show. Um, I remember that. But I'm just saying, even the 2170 02:18:23,820 --> 02:18:26,970 What's this? What's this? There was something on Fox News 2171 02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:29,640 yesterday with Newt Gingrich that got a 2172 02:18:29,640 --> 02:18:32,070 lot of Yes, it was Newt Gingrich. I'm not gonna comment 2173 02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:33,690 on the Fox News 2174 02:18:33,690 --> 02:18:37,350 personnel there. I'm gonna tell you. The George Soros has 2175 02:18:37,350 --> 02:18:40,950 donated seven, you have the clip seven people on 2176 02:18:41,490 --> 02:18:43,800 Thursday doesn't have the clip anyway. Yeah, it was Newt 2177 02:18:43,800 --> 02:18:46,650 Gingrich, who said that he brought up George Soros in 2178 02:18:46,650 --> 02:18:49,200 relation to it, and they and they and like, Okay, what you 2179 02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:51,240 can't say that click boom by. 2180 02:18:52,290 --> 02:18:56,010 So I'm just showing you how that works. As far as I mean, not you 2181 02:18:56,010 --> 02:19:00,030 but the audience how that works. But then we have de Patman over 2182 02:19:00,030 --> 02:19:03,450 here, saying that Soros was funding Black Lives Matter, 2183 02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:07,800 right. So the scrutiny needs to go all the way to the top there 2184 02:19:07,800 --> 02:19:11,880 fish rots in the head. So let's go ahead and get into the second 2185 02:19:11,880 --> 02:19:15,300 part of this clip. About scrutiny. 2186 02:19:15,660 --> 02:19:20,340 So amid all of this, the state of Washington and California 2187 02:19:20,340 --> 02:19:24,630 have recently notified, black lives matter that, hey, if you 2188 02:19:24,630 --> 02:19:28,440 guys want to operate in our state, then you need to submit 2189 02:19:28,440 --> 02:19:31,410 your financial information until you do so you're not to solicit 2190 02:19:31,410 --> 02:19:35,280 any contributions from citizens of our state. Washington warned 2191 02:19:35,940 --> 02:19:38,790 black lives matter in a letter A few weeks ago that you can face 2192 02:19:38,790 --> 02:19:42,930 fines up to $2,000 per violation. And California said 2193 02:19:43,290 --> 02:19:46,740 that we will hold the leaders and everybody that's in charge 2194 02:19:46,740 --> 02:19:49,980 of solicitation at Black Lives Matter personally accountable. 2195 02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:54,270 If if you don't submit your records within 60 days. So 2196 02:19:54,270 --> 02:19:57,660 yesterday, Black Lives Matter. Took the extraordinary step and 2197 02:19:57,660 --> 02:20:01,320 they announced that you know we're gonna pause all online 2198 02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:04,530 fundraising as we get our registration issues sorted out, 2199 02:20:04,950 --> 02:20:08,070 but this is some breaking news from just before I came on air, 2200 02:20:08,670 --> 02:20:11,340 it turns out that black lives matter is still accepting 2201 02:20:11,340 --> 02:20:16,260 donations from their active blue donation pages. They told me 2202 02:20:16,260 --> 02:20:19,410 just before we came on the air that, you know, these are not 2203 02:20:19,440 --> 02:20:21,840 active fundraising pages, you know, these are former 2204 02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:24,870 fundraising pages, which doesn't really make sense because they, 2205 02:20:24,900 --> 02:20:27,600 you know, I was able to pitch $1 to Black Lives Matter, proving 2206 02:20:27,600 --> 02:20:30,810 that they're still actively accepting contributions, despite 2207 02:20:30,810 --> 02:20:34,200 their statement yesterday that they're no longer going to be 2208 02:20:34,200 --> 02:20:35,460 soliciting funds online. 2209 02:20:38,160 --> 02:20:42,120 So you can see, I'm just trying to figure out how do you collect 2210 02:20:42,120 --> 02:20:47,820 that much money and know how your paperwork in order and 2211 02:20:47,820 --> 02:20:52,440 allow to do business for that loan? And it didn't raise any 2212 02:20:52,440 --> 02:20:56,010 red flags. But now that it's over, you're done with them? 2213 02:20:56,430 --> 02:20:59,040 Yeah, it's kind of ran its course they've you know, they've 2214 02:20:59,040 --> 02:21:01,710 been burned. You know, whenever you say black lives matter, 2215 02:21:01,710 --> 02:21:04,740 people notice the scam now. Yeah, we're talking about Black 2216 02:21:04,740 --> 02:21:06,930 Lives Matter ain't let me be clear. Let me clarify for the 2217 02:21:06,930 --> 02:21:10,080 new listeners. Um, we're talking about Black Lives Matter, Inc. 2218 02:21:10,110 --> 02:21:14,220 That's the corporate wing of it, you know, that was taking money 2219 02:21:14,220 --> 02:21:17,850 and not the people on the ground, you know, protesting or 2220 02:21:17,850 --> 02:21:22,590 fighting for black lives and on a very grassroots level. But I 2221 02:21:22,590 --> 02:21:25,290 noticed now, they're doing I don't know if it's gonna be the 2222 02:21:25,290 --> 02:21:30,990 new group. But they're using this language of what was it? 2223 02:21:32,400 --> 02:21:38,910 It's not Black Lives Matter is what slipped my mind. It was 2224 02:21:39,180 --> 02:21:45,030 something for black lives. Is something is, man, but they 2225 02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:50,670 don't use black lives matter anymore. It's me, man. That's 2226 02:21:50,670 --> 02:21:53,430 totally something. But it's still tied to at Blue. Let let 2227 02:21:53,430 --> 02:21:57,690 Oh, no, of course. Through the text, you were saying to do a 2228 02:21:57,690 --> 02:22:02,520 curry cash check on this really? Is something for black lives? 2229 02:22:02,730 --> 02:22:06,480 Well, I'll talk about in a future show but agenda. No, no, 2230 02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:10,560 no, no, it's a, I don't want to drag it out. Okay, basically, 2231 02:22:10,560 --> 02:22:14,610 they have another kind of like, shell game going on, which it 2232 02:22:14,610 --> 02:22:19,950 has black lives in it. But it does not black lives matter. So 2233 02:22:19,950 --> 02:22:23,730 I think they're going to start pivoting to that. So 2234 02:22:24,809 --> 02:22:26,669 who do you think they is? In this case? 2235 02:22:27,449 --> 02:22:31,679 It's the same, it's gonna anything's the same. Right? A 2236 02:22:31,889 --> 02:22:37,559 shadow organization, they just find new patsies to take the 2237 02:22:37,559 --> 02:22:41,399 blame. Yeah. And like I said, these women got in over their 2238 02:22:41,399 --> 02:22:47,309 head, they got a celebrity got the they got the fame that went 2239 02:22:47,309 --> 02:22:53,219 along with it. All the you know, highlights and given all kinds 2240 02:22:53,219 --> 02:22:57,149 of juice, praise, but I didn't understand the other shoe that 2241 02:22:57,149 --> 02:23:01,319 was gonna, it was gonna drop now. So my thing is, if we're 2242 02:23:01,319 --> 02:23:04,949 gonna take them now, which I mean, I think ridicule is 2243 02:23:04,949 --> 02:23:10,079 enough. Yes. But if you're gonna take them down, then we need a 2244 02:23:10,079 --> 02:23:13,619 RICO case, we need to go into the tall. Okay, 2245 02:23:13,650 --> 02:23:17,250 what's known as Rico. It's a short for racketeering 2246 02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:25,800 influence, corrupt organization. Any organization that is acting 2247 02:23:27,660 --> 02:23:35,370 with illegal has illegal activities from a regular 2248 02:23:35,370 --> 02:23:43,770 corporation, Wall Street Corporation, two gangs can be 2249 02:23:43,770 --> 02:23:49,320 prosecuted under the RICO Act. In order to be prosecuted under 2250 02:23:49,320 --> 02:23:53,760 the RICO Act, the prosecutors have to there's different levels 2251 02:23:54,960 --> 02:23:58,020 and different thing, different elements that the government has 2252 02:23:58,020 --> 02:24:03,660 to prove. When it comes to prosecutions of Rico, however, 2253 02:24:03,660 --> 02:24:07,530 generally, the prosecutor has to prove at least two or three 2254 02:24:08,040 --> 02:24:12,360 separate acts that the corporation is committing that 2255 02:24:12,360 --> 02:24:16,530 are illegal. So for example, when you are prosecuting a gang, 2256 02:24:16,530 --> 02:24:22,260 a street gang with Rico, prosecutors usually would show 2257 02:24:22,260 --> 02:24:26,730 that that gang is dealing with drugs and committing murders. 2258 02:24:27,510 --> 02:24:34,830 That would be enough to prove a RICO depends on again, how what 2259 02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:40,440 statute section under the RICO act, you are being prosecuted 2260 02:24:40,440 --> 02:24:45,150 under. Sometimes the prosecutor has to prove specifically those 2261 02:24:45,150 --> 02:24:49,860 acts. And sometimes they can just generally prove certain 2262 02:24:49,860 --> 02:24:54,870 acts and when the jury finds when the jury deliberates, they 2263 02:24:54,870 --> 02:25:00,930 don't really have to specifically tell or vote on A 2264 02:25:00,930 --> 02:25:04,920 certain act, they can just in general say yes, we find that 2265 02:25:04,950 --> 02:25:10,200 the the prosecutor prove that at least two acts are illegal. 2266 02:25:11,490 --> 02:25:15,660 Yeah. So we got we're gonna get them. It's my best chance to 2267 02:25:15,660 --> 02:25:22,740 Soros. Yeah. Good luck with that. No Rico cases. We've seen 2268 02:25:22,740 --> 02:25:28,110 on tape now big fish before. And connective tissue. Obviously 2269 02:25:28,110 --> 02:25:32,160 they patent pointed out there's there's let me be optimist Adam 2270 02:25:32,220 --> 02:25:32,640 Okay. 2271 02:25:32,669 --> 02:25:37,769 Yeah, I mean, I have little faith in most institutions, I 2272 02:25:37,769 --> 02:25:41,399 would say justice is probably one I have the least faith in 2273 02:25:41,399 --> 02:25:41,939 right now. 2274 02:25:42,540 --> 02:25:46,170 And the name of the group is the movement for black lives. 2275 02:25:47,460 --> 02:25:48,390 All right, cool. Right. 2276 02:25:48,540 --> 02:25:51,870 I was reading this article, and they kept talking about the 2277 02:25:51,870 --> 02:25:55,410 movement for black lives. I've never heard this group before. 2278 02:25:55,620 --> 02:25:59,940 So their website is M for bl.org. That's right. I remember 2279 02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:02,910 when you when you go click on the donate button, of course, 2280 02:26:02,910 --> 02:26:06,150 you know where it goes at Blue. So I think this is going to be 2281 02:26:06,150 --> 02:26:09,930 the new Cheryl corporation because they use the same yellow 2282 02:26:09,930 --> 02:26:15,360 and black on their website that we pointed out that was used in 2283 02:26:16,140 --> 02:26:19,710 Black Lives Matter. Street painting. Mm hmm. It's the same 2284 02:26:19,710 --> 02:26:23,520 color, everything. But yeah, it's the movement for black 2285 02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:26,670 lives. And I think this is going to be their new shell company. 2286 02:26:27,960 --> 02:26:33,570 Shell organization that they operate out of this group, 2287 02:26:33,570 --> 02:26:37,350 whoever the shadow group is, they saw what happened in 2020. 2288 02:26:37,980 --> 02:26:42,030 They went to woke with the sand trying to get rid of the black 2289 02:26:42,030 --> 02:26:45,390 man. I'm seeing now that the Democratic Party is saying 2290 02:26:45,390 --> 02:26:49,080 trying to get some black man to, you know, played a role for 2291 02:26:49,080 --> 02:26:52,710 them. In politics. I'll be bringing up some names here 2292 02:26:52,710 --> 02:26:56,850 shortly. But um, yeah, so I think if they're gonna go down, 2293 02:26:57,960 --> 02:27:00,750 do they have to? They have spokes holes? Do they have new 2294 02:27:00,750 --> 02:27:02,460 spokes models here for 2295 02:27:02,790 --> 02:27:07,620 corbeil? No, it's not yet. It's just, but it's called power down 2296 02:27:07,620 --> 02:27:11,400 their website says power black power rising 2024. So you see 2297 02:27:11,400 --> 02:27:15,780 what they're setting up for? And I think like, say they went to 2298 02:27:15,780 --> 02:27:19,710 woke. And they're like, Well, when we went that far, we 2299 02:27:19,740 --> 02:27:25,620 shifted the, you know, we went outside the scope of what people 2300 02:27:25,620 --> 02:27:28,830 are willing to follow. We were saying, when we start reading 2301 02:27:28,830 --> 02:27:32,280 the literature, what Black Lives Matter was about and they're, 2302 02:27:32,340 --> 02:27:35,490 they're probably going to try to correct from that, and then pick 2303 02:27:35,490 --> 02:27:38,730 up from where they left off it. But I have this clip, because 2304 02:27:38,730 --> 02:27:41,670 what brought this to my attention, even before the $60 2305 02:27:41,670 --> 02:27:45,480 million thing came out Patrisse Cullors has been left the group 2306 02:27:45,510 --> 02:27:50,520 as stated before, Oh, yeah. But she was on with Jamil Hill. And 2307 02:27:50,520 --> 02:27:53,070 I was like, how long is this? Oh, video? I mean, like, why is 2308 02:27:53,070 --> 02:27:56,280 she talking about why she left again? So she's back around 2309 02:27:56,280 --> 02:27:59,250 doing around again, like trying to say, I ain't got nothing to 2310 02:27:59,250 --> 02:27:59,730 do with this. 2311 02:28:01,290 --> 02:28:03,240 Damage Control? Right, she 2312 02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:07,590 tried to clear her name. So, um, this is the next clip where her 2313 02:28:07,590 --> 02:28:08,250 and Jamil Hill 2314 02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:11,010 last May though you made the decision that you were going to 2315 02:28:11,010 --> 02:28:13,800 step down from the Black Lives Matter global network 2316 02:28:13,800 --> 02:28:14,520 foundation, 2317 02:28:14,790 --> 02:28:18,420 you said it was the right time? What made it the right time? 2318 02:28:19,469 --> 02:28:23,189 You know, I had been in BLM since the very beginning, 2319 02:28:23,219 --> 02:28:26,519 obviously, for eight years when the last co founders who were 2320 02:28:26,519 --> 02:28:30,719 really was there to help build infrastructure and an usher in 2321 02:28:30,749 --> 02:28:38,129 honestly a new decade for BLM. I was I was ready it was I 2322 02:28:38,129 --> 02:28:42,899 personally was ready to evolve into a next role and next 2323 02:28:42,929 --> 02:28:47,039 position, not necessarily for like a nonprofit, but in my life 2324 02:28:47,940 --> 02:28:49,230 to make some money. 2325 02:28:50,250 --> 02:28:55,050 But, you know, seven months out, I will be honest with you, it 2326 02:28:55,050 --> 02:28:59,070 was also because of right wing attacks. Oh, I was thinking 2327 02:28:59,070 --> 02:29:03,660 about my child, I really thought that I was gonna die. I thought 2328 02:29:03,690 --> 02:29:08,340 you know, I had received multiple calls from the FBI that 2329 02:29:08,340 --> 02:29:10,530 there were credible threats against my life and I had to 2330 02:29:10,530 --> 02:29:15,780 just really sit back and make a decision like what what is my 2331 02:29:16,530 --> 02:29:20,100 what's my best role in this movement? Is it a dead tree? So 2332 02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:24,390 in a live bitchface and I said it was me being alive here to 2333 02:29:24,390 --> 02:29:29,640 see my child grow up. So many, you know, young, so many people 2334 02:29:29,670 --> 02:29:35,970 who lost their parents to white supremacist and didn't get to 2335 02:29:35,970 --> 02:29:38,880 grow up with their parents. I'm more than just a movement 2336 02:29:38,880 --> 02:29:40,920 leader. I'm also a mother. 2337 02:29:42,030 --> 02:29:46,560 No, no, no, no, no, no. No, we're like that. Cuz you can't 2338 02:29:46,560 --> 02:29:52,140 let the patriarchy run you all right. Not the front line of 2339 02:29:52,140 --> 02:29:56,040 fighting for your saying, uh, you know, all things, you know, 2340 02:29:56,280 --> 02:29:57,120 liberation. 2341 02:29:58,110 --> 02:30:06,690 Hey, whatever happened to the two Do Marxist trainers slash 2342 02:30:06,690 --> 02:30:11,550 kind of managers of their older, older likes in their 70s? Jews? 2343 02:30:12,840 --> 02:30:15,210 Which one? Which one are you talking about? Ah, it's 2344 02:30:15,210 --> 02:30:18,690 like an old dude, an old woman and they were also involved in 2345 02:30:18,690 --> 02:30:22,950 the actual 5013 C. This goes back a while for a little bit 2346 02:30:22,950 --> 02:30:25,350 there was a blip. Were like, Hey, hold on a second. This is 2347 02:30:25,350 --> 02:30:29,520 like, classic classic Marxist been doing this shit forever. 2348 02:30:29,940 --> 02:30:33,390 Right cuz that's when the whole Marxist Yeah, yeah, everybody 2349 02:30:33,390 --> 02:30:36,270 started doing their homework. And yeah, you know, 2350 02:30:36,420 --> 02:30:39,780 just interesting that they were both Jewish. Hello. 2351 02:30:40,290 --> 02:30:42,930 You saying about? You're saying they go to the workers. It never 2352 02:30:42,930 --> 02:30:46,860 goes up? No, it stops at the workers, right? This is the 2353 02:30:46,860 --> 02:30:52,170 Superbowl halftime show all over again. It stops with Patrice 2354 02:30:52,170 --> 02:30:56,280 colors, right? I understand her two buddies set up to run a 2355 02:30:56,280 --> 02:30:59,250 billion dollar scheme made all style and they were the only 2356 02:30:59,250 --> 02:31:02,760 ones that did it. Yeah. This this is how it works. It's like 2357 02:31:02,760 --> 02:31:07,560 no, it doesn't work like that. You know, but as far as you 2358 02:31:07,560 --> 02:31:11,580 don't get this kind of money and Corporation buy in just remote 2359 02:31:11,580 --> 02:31:13,980 three people that we never heard before. And to you No, 2360 02:31:15,180 --> 02:31:18,060 no, no, no, no, no, there were there were some professional 2361 02:31:18,060 --> 02:31:21,270 fundraising going on. This was this was well organized. Well 2362 02:31:21,270 --> 02:31:21,660 done. 2363 02:31:22,290 --> 02:31:28,290 Yeah. And they're 2020s over 2022 They're like, they're not 2364 02:31:28,290 --> 02:31:32,850 really valuable to us anymore. Oh, I mean, it had a stench on 2365 02:31:32,850 --> 02:31:35,040 them every time they come out. Like all those the marches, 2366 02:31:35,040 --> 02:31:37,560 girls, just kind of thing. I mean, that's what people's 2367 02:31:37,560 --> 02:31:39,660 reaction or in certain circles, 2368 02:31:39,719 --> 02:31:43,169 unless, unless unless Patrisse Cullors can get a hit on with 2369 02:31:43,169 --> 02:31:45,809 her Netflix deal if she can get a real hit out of that, which I 2370 02:31:45,809 --> 02:31:49,529 did doubt that could rekindle her. But I don't see that 2371 02:31:49,529 --> 02:31:50,039 happening. 2372 02:31:50,460 --> 02:31:54,270 This what she's trying to do, but I mean, all of these people 2373 02:31:54,270 --> 02:32:00,420 are done. Calpurnia is out with the old in with the new and this 2374 02:32:00,420 --> 02:32:01,140 is how it works. 2375 02:32:01,139 --> 02:32:04,619 And by the way, Jay Z's got to know that one of these days he's 2376 02:32:04,619 --> 02:32:05,609 gonna be out to 2377 02:32:06,750 --> 02:32:10,830 oh, he already had his pancake moment. pounds cake. Take 2378 02:32:10,830 --> 02:32:15,180 moment, Bill Cosby thing. Um, I've said this before on the 2379 02:32:15,180 --> 02:32:18,990 show, I mean, in passing, but when he made that deal when the 2380 02:32:18,990 --> 02:32:21,750 NFL, that was his poundcake moment, it's 2381 02:32:21,750 --> 02:32:24,480 Can you explain the pancake moment? Again, I don't remember. 2382 02:32:24,750 --> 02:32:28,500 So when Bill Cosby came out and was like route railing on black 2383 02:32:28,500 --> 02:32:31,470 people, that's kind of when he lost the noose and the black 2384 02:32:31,470 --> 02:32:35,400 support? Was I pull up your pants right now we're killing 2385 02:32:35,400 --> 02:32:40,680 each other. We're poundcake. That CO. So that's why when they 2386 02:32:40,680 --> 02:32:44,880 came for him, he had no support. And it's funny that you say that 2387 02:32:44,880 --> 02:32:50,280 because and this is how I found out about the movement for black 2388 02:32:50,280 --> 02:32:52,920 lives. Because there was an article right after the 2389 02:32:52,920 --> 02:32:55,890 Superbowl talking about Jay Z basically sold out and it was in 2390 02:32:55,890 --> 02:33:00,480 the route. Author from the roots and what do we really get for 2391 02:33:00,480 --> 02:33:03,300 Jay Z are saying it was good for Jay Z, but it wasn't good for 2392 02:33:03,300 --> 02:33:07,230 us. So that's what I start seeing them say the movement for 2393 02:33:07,230 --> 02:33:09,690 black lives. And I thought they were just doing some wordplay. 2394 02:33:09,690 --> 02:33:12,060 But no, it's actually an organization. That's 2395 02:33:12,180 --> 02:33:15,300 so that's kind of interesting. Did was there a general 2396 02:33:15,300 --> 02:33:20,100 expectation that, hey, these guys, they finally got the 2397 02:33:20,100 --> 02:33:22,500 power. They're going to do the halftime show. They're gonna do 2398 02:33:22,500 --> 02:33:25,680 something great. Was there an expectation that Jay Z and the 2399 02:33:25,680 --> 02:33:26,940 crew there would do that? 2400 02:33:27,540 --> 02:33:34,470 He was poster brain. He was post to how I'm gonna put this. He 2401 02:33:34,470 --> 02:33:38,520 was pole was supposed to, right? No, I know, the whole reason was 2402 02:33:38,520 --> 02:33:41,040 what kept when it was fighting for it. That was the expectation 2403 02:33:41,040 --> 02:33:45,690 like Kaepernick, right. So Jay Z, he'll come in, and he'll do 2404 02:33:45,690 --> 02:33:51,240 something transformative in there in NFL, but Jay Z saw as 2405 02:33:51,240 --> 02:33:55,440 he grifted, the Grifters. He was, he was like, I'm going to 2406 02:33:55,440 --> 02:33:59,460 take your grift and I'm going to use this to position myself for 2407 02:33:59,460 --> 02:34:05,730 ownership in the NFL. Right. And when he did that everybody on 2408 02:34:05,730 --> 02:34:08,280 the grass roots was like, I mean, for black lives matter was 2409 02:34:08,280 --> 02:34:11,700 like, oh, Jay Z is a grifter. And that's why I said when they 2410 02:34:11,700 --> 02:34:15,570 do cover him, he won't have that support. Right away with Bill 2411 02:34:15,570 --> 02:34:18,180 Cosby, how everybody kind of threw their hands up was like 2412 02:34:18,300 --> 02:34:22,350 you can have you know, it's not meaningful to us. So yeah, that 2413 02:34:22,350 --> 02:34:25,170 was that was I think the NFL thing was his power was, 2414 02:34:25,620 --> 02:34:29,400 was there something that you think he could have done? That 2415 02:34:29,400 --> 02:34:32,610 would have been the right thing to do? 2416 02:34:34,140 --> 02:34:34,950 No, it's not. 2417 02:34:35,340 --> 02:34:38,250 There's nothing I could have done. Right. The grift. The 2418 02:34:38,250 --> 02:34:39,660 whole show was the grift. 2419 02:34:40,260 --> 02:34:44,910 It was the pret he kind of wasn't a pressure relief valve 2420 02:34:44,910 --> 02:34:45,810 for the NFL. 2421 02:34:46,260 --> 02:34:48,870 Oh, no. I know. I know. I know what the point of him doing that 2422 02:34:48,870 --> 02:34:49,290 was 2423 02:34:51,360 --> 02:34:55,320 not what I'm saying is that he was that that's the point of it 2424 02:34:55,320 --> 02:34:59,850 so he wouldn't have been functional or regardless. Any 2425 02:34:59,850 --> 02:35:04,080 other There isn't any other way. Right? I got, you know, so it 2426 02:35:04,080 --> 02:35:07,050 was no way he could what he wanted to do was kind of like, 2427 02:35:07,470 --> 02:35:11,700 no, thread the needle and say, you know, I'm doing it for the 2428 02:35:11,700 --> 02:35:15,000 culture, you know, kind of like, oh, we'll give you a halftime 2429 02:35:15,000 --> 02:35:20,130 show. And the funny thing was even then, he had to do the 2430 02:35:20,130 --> 02:35:24,000 Latinos first. He can't come in and do a black halftime show. 2431 02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:27,450 Oh, no, no, no, no, no. He had to do the Shakira 2432 02:35:27,480 --> 02:35:31,200 Oh, right. That was his he did that one first. Right? They're 2433 02:35:31,200 --> 02:35:35,580 like Jay No, no, be crazy. Yeah. He's into it. Now he's into ease 2434 02:35:35,580 --> 02:35:35,910 into 2435 02:35:35,910 --> 02:35:39,600 it. So yeah. So when I say all this to say that all these 2436 02:35:39,600 --> 02:35:43,110 things are strategic. And that leads me to the theorem Emoni 2437 02:35:43,230 --> 02:35:47,610 moment now. So you need me to 2438 02:35:47,610 --> 02:35:49,710 actively play along with this thank you do 2439 02:35:49,710 --> 02:35:59,580 for this block. So why he's grabbing his instrument. There's 2440 02:35:59,610 --> 02:36:06,330 a recent case where a former Black Lives Matter activist went 2441 02:36:06,360 --> 02:36:12,990 in and shot a mirror or mayoral candidate. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, 2442 02:36:12,990 --> 02:36:13,170 this 2443 02:36:13,170 --> 02:36:14,310 was great. Wait, wait 2444 02:36:18,930 --> 02:36:24,780 All right. So when I see this, it makes you think, Oh, this is 2445 02:36:24,810 --> 02:36:29,580 this is the total stepping away from Black Lives Matter? We 2446 02:36:29,580 --> 02:36:32,250 gotta have a black violet man come in. 2447 02:36:32,700 --> 02:36:35,670 Yes. Yes. A 2448 02:36:36,389 --> 02:36:37,289 Jewish Mayor 2449 02:36:37,440 --> 02:36:41,700 he up and and in the media ate that shit right up. 2450 02:36:42,180 --> 02:36:46,260 Right so this is them stepping away from the whole Black Lives 2451 02:36:46,260 --> 02:36:49,050 Matter thing and they gotta say where they're toxic now. See, 2452 02:36:49,050 --> 02:36:50,310 now they're toxic and 2453 02:36:50,310 --> 02:36:52,530 they and they have to take a black man to do it. It's 2454 02:36:52,530 --> 02:36:56,310 unbelievable. How how do they get him so crazy to do this? 2455 02:36:56,370 --> 02:36:59,400 Well, we're gonna get into that right. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I 2456 02:36:59,400 --> 02:37:02,610 gotta have my goggles on. Let me make sure they're on tight mo 2457 02:37:02,610 --> 02:37:03,030 horns. 2458 02:37:04,800 --> 02:37:07,470 Like breaking tonight. A local activist is charged with the 2459 02:37:07,470 --> 02:37:10,050 attempted murder of a local mayoral candidate police 2460 02:37:10,050 --> 02:37:13,260 have identified 21 year old Quinn's has brown is the man who 2461 02:37:13,260 --> 02:37:17,460 fired shots at Craig Greenberg and his staff earlier today. Why 2462 02:37:17,460 --> 02:37:20,130 is Shaquille Lord His reaction tonight? He's live at Metro 2463 02:37:20,130 --> 02:37:21,600 corrections with the latest Shaq. 2464 02:37:26,070 --> 02:37:29,970 Vicki as you mentioned, he is an activist. He's a former 2465 02:37:29,970 --> 02:37:33,360 columnist and even had his eyes set on running for global Metro 2466 02:37:33,360 --> 02:37:36,810 council district five. But tonight the 21 year old ish is 2467 02:37:36,810 --> 02:37:40,320 charged with attempted murder and is behind bars here at Metro 2468 02:37:40,320 --> 02:37:41,220 corrections. 2469 02:37:43,170 --> 02:37:47,370 The democratic process is that we as individuals go into the 2470 02:37:47,370 --> 02:37:51,990 ballot box and vote for who we want. We don't kill candidates 2471 02:37:52,380 --> 02:37:53,970 so that other people can vote for them. 2472 02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:57,960 Strong words from Metro Council President David James it comes 2473 02:37:57,960 --> 02:38:01,170 after finding out former local columnist Quintus Brown was 2474 02:38:01,170 --> 02:38:05,040 identified as the man who police say try to kill Louisville 2475 02:38:05,040 --> 02:38:07,200 mayoral candidate Craig Greenberg, 2476 02:38:07,230 --> 02:38:10,890 all of us are blessed. And I'm blessed to be standing here 2477 02:38:10,890 --> 02:38:11,850 today with you. 2478 02:38:13,980 --> 02:38:18,690 So I'm thinking serasa Ron, I think I pronounce his name. Sir 2479 02:38:18,690 --> 02:38:22,530 hon. Sir Hassan. Yes. I'm thinking we got some action like 2480 02:38:22,530 --> 02:38:23,250 this going on. 2481 02:38:24,600 --> 02:38:28,170 It's gotta be this. This is. I mean, it's so perfect for him to 2482 02:38:28,170 --> 02:38:29,040 be doing this. 2483 02:38:29,580 --> 02:38:32,040 Right. Right. In Louisville. Right. Well, that was episode 2484 02:38:32,040 --> 02:38:35,970 one of the whole Briana Taylor case. Yeah. And the hotbed for 2485 02:38:35,970 --> 02:38:37,890 2020 Ah, 2486 02:38:37,920 --> 02:38:39,630 goodness. So 2487 02:38:41,070 --> 02:38:45,570 yeah. This August security. Yeah. And takes a shot two shots 2488 02:38:45,570 --> 02:38:47,610 at the guy and it hits a sweater. 2489 02:38:47,640 --> 02:38:49,710 Yeah. And that's another beauty. 2490 02:38:51,270 --> 02:38:55,350 That doesn't make any sense. And then it's Dubin anti gun. It 2491 02:38:55,350 --> 02:38:59,670 just didn't make no sense the whole story. So I'm like when 2492 02:38:59,670 --> 02:39:02,460 I'm starting to look at this. I'm like, this stinks. But it 2493 02:39:02,460 --> 02:39:05,640 starts to bring things back into my mind but I'm like, Well, hold 2494 02:39:05,640 --> 02:39:08,550 on Whoa. You know, interesting Hold on You gotta you gotta use 2495 02:39:08,550 --> 02:39:12,360 and you just easy, easier. They can jump out the window with you 2496 02:39:12,390 --> 02:39:15,090 know how these rabbit holes are. So I stopped listening to the 2497 02:39:15,090 --> 02:39:16,680 story more 24 2498 02:39:17,700 --> 02:39:20,160 around 10. This morning, officers responded to 2499 02:39:20,160 --> 02:39:22,770 Greenberg's campaign headquarters and purchase him 2500 02:39:22,770 --> 02:39:26,340 market for report of an active aggressor. Police say Brown 2501 02:39:26,340 --> 02:39:29,940 entered Greenberg's office and fired several shots at him just 2502 02:39:29,940 --> 02:39:33,750 grazing his sweater. Neither Greenberg nor his four staff 2503 02:39:33,750 --> 02:39:37,320 members were injured physically. Hours after the shooting. 2504 02:39:37,350 --> 02:39:40,830 Greenberg says he's still trying to grasp what happened. 2505 02:39:41,370 --> 02:39:45,690 I'm shaken up. It was a surreal experience and mostly right now. 2506 02:39:46,860 --> 02:39:51,540 I just want to get home to my wife and sons and give them a 2507 02:39:51,540 --> 02:39:51,900 hug. 2508 02:39:51,929 --> 02:39:54,899 He says thanks to the quick thinking of his staff. They were 2509 02:39:54,929 --> 02:39:57,899 able to barricade themselves in the individual 2510 02:39:57,900 --> 02:40:02,910 closest to the door. Manage To briefly get the door shut, we 2511 02:40:02,910 --> 02:40:07,380 barricaded the door and the suspect fled. Brown was 2512 02:40:07,380 --> 02:40:10,950 well known for being a constant presence during social unrest in 2513 02:40:10,950 --> 02:40:14,190 Louisville during 2020. While there are more questions than 2514 02:40:14,190 --> 02:40:17,850 answers at this point, James says Greenberg and others are 2515 02:40:17,850 --> 02:40:19,860 blessed to be able to walk away. 2516 02:40:19,980 --> 02:40:24,570 I'm just thankful that that the staff and Craig Greenberg are 2517 02:40:24,570 --> 02:40:25,500 alive and well, 2518 02:40:25,559 --> 02:40:29,579 no addition. In addition to attempted murder, Brown is also 2519 02:40:29,579 --> 02:40:32,879 facing four counts of wanton endangerment he's scheduled to 2520 02:40:32,879 --> 02:40:35,009 appear before Judge tomorrow morning. 2521 02:40:35,370 --> 02:40:40,140 I have a nice social unrest instead of BLM protests social 2522 02:40:40,140 --> 02:40:41,040 unrest Yes, 2523 02:40:41,070 --> 02:40:48,540 it's gaining steam in what was weird is he came into two shots 2524 02:40:48,690 --> 02:40:53,250 of several shots, but some counts was too they said several 2525 02:40:53,250 --> 02:40:58,230 in this in this in this story, the story and then they bombard 2526 02:40:58,230 --> 02:41:01,860 it in a barricaded the door I don't understand how this works 2527 02:41:01,860 --> 02:41:05,940 like he came in shot at you. And then your style barricaded the 2528 02:41:05,940 --> 02:41:11,130 door like this the sequences off to me 2529 02:41:11,340 --> 02:41:14,790 there's yeah this is this is indeed highly sketchy. 2530 02:41:15,240 --> 02:41:19,530 He says Paopao Graves is your sweat accuser cardigan. He was a 2531 02:41:19,530 --> 02:41:20,130 man 2532 02:41:20,160 --> 02:41:23,820 but even that man I've never seen seen it like that. Just 2533 02:41:23,850 --> 02:41:25,860 just I mean that's lucky, right? 2534 02:41:26,850 --> 02:41:30,180 Yeah, I don't understand. If and then the way they put it like 2535 02:41:30,180 --> 02:41:35,070 grazie sweater. It's like I don't know why it just didn't 2536 02:41:35,070 --> 02:41:38,490 make any sense. But it was starting to make sense was 2537 02:41:38,970 --> 02:41:43,890 before this happened. He went missing. Oh, really? 2538 02:41:43,950 --> 02:41:45,000 Oh crap. 2539 02:41:45,540 --> 02:41:49,500 I'm missing. 20 year old college student has an entire community 2540 02:41:49,500 --> 02:41:51,420 hoping for his safe return 2541 02:41:51,570 --> 02:41:55,860 says We love you. And until we find this young man, we're gonna 2542 02:41:55,980 --> 02:41:59,850 continue as community to come together and make sure that this 2543 02:41:59,850 --> 02:42:04,020 young man is found safe and not in harm's way. Thank you 2544 02:42:04,020 --> 02:42:08,760 everyone for coming out. I know you often have some fliers in 2545 02:42:08,760 --> 02:42:08,880 your 2546 02:42:08,880 --> 02:42:13,320 hand and Quint has Brown has not been seen since June 19. And his 2547 02:42:13,320 --> 02:42:16,800 family and friends and the University of Louisville are all 2548 02:42:16,800 --> 02:42:17,970 searching for him 2549 02:42:18,030 --> 02:42:21,960 when chance is a born leader. I know I met him his freshman year 2550 02:42:21,960 --> 02:42:25,230 in high school. And immediately when I met him I new this young 2551 02:42:25,230 --> 02:42:28,140 man had a gift to serve in his community. 2552 02:42:28,619 --> 02:42:32,579 He's known as an activist for police reform and civil rights 2553 02:42:32,609 --> 02:42:35,489 and has contributed as an opinion writer for The 2554 02:42:35,489 --> 02:42:39,059 Louisville courier journal Quintessa his father and 2555 02:42:39,059 --> 02:42:42,839 stepmother expressed during a virtual press conference. Though 2556 02:42:42,839 --> 02:42:46,439 he has no history of mental illness, they feel contest, 2557 02:42:46,469 --> 02:42:48,869 maybe in a mental health crisis, 2558 02:42:49,350 --> 02:42:52,320 or know what he's going through. But this is not like him. He's 2559 02:42:52,320 --> 02:42:55,890 not that type of kid. He's a great kid. He's a great young 2560 02:42:55,890 --> 02:42:59,430 man. And I just feel like he's in a bad place that he needs his 2561 02:42:59,430 --> 02:43:01,290 father and his mom at love. 2562 02:43:01,590 --> 02:43:06,570 Quintus Brown is five foot 10 inches about 180 pounds with 2563 02:43:06,570 --> 02:43:10,920 tattoos on his upper arms and chest. His family says he shaved 2564 02:43:10,920 --> 02:43:14,340 his head and beard the day before he went missing. And 2565 02:43:14,340 --> 02:43:18,210 authority say his credit card was last used at a grocery store 2566 02:43:18,240 --> 02:43:21,810 near the University of Louisville campus on June 19. 2567 02:43:22,380 --> 02:43:25,530 He's all about community is all about happy, he's all about 2568 02:43:25,530 --> 02:43:28,230 change. He's willing to do whatever we can for the next 2569 02:43:28,230 --> 02:43:32,070 person. So I asked everybody to come together as he would and 2570 02:43:32,070 --> 02:43:32,970 try to find him. 2571 02:43:33,480 --> 02:43:37,680 Quint has Browns family and friends now ask for any tips 2572 02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:39,510 that may lead to finding him 2573 02:43:40,230 --> 02:43:42,990 while he was missing since June of last year. 2574 02:43:43,469 --> 02:43:47,789 So he go yet goes missing shapes had no history of mental illness 2575 02:43:48,869 --> 02:43:53,999 and disappears into university. Go cozy as an anti gun 2576 02:43:53,999 --> 02:43:58,319 nonviolent activist and comes back you're saying a straight up 2577 02:43:59,159 --> 02:44:06,539 take your shots at politicians. Dude. Saying he MK 2578 02:44:07,380 --> 02:44:14,100 Yeah, but but I'm pissed because it's a damn COVID I'm telling 2579 02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:17,940 you I was watching the story come by and and the most obvious 2580 02:44:17,940 --> 02:44:21,600 part of it. I mean first I'm like, Oh man, but but that it 2581 02:44:21,600 --> 02:44:25,560 was a man that's what i That was the big tip off that I was just 2582 02:44:25,560 --> 02:44:30,270 wasn't wasn't clicking for me like, Oh my goodness. This is 2583 02:44:30,270 --> 02:44:32,160 totally burnt burning everything. 2584 02:44:33,210 --> 02:44:36,480 They're burning the whole operation, the whole 2585 02:44:36,480 --> 02:44:39,240 thing and right down to the cultural core. 2586 02:44:40,139 --> 02:44:45,269 And you know how hard it is to disappear nowadays? I mean, you 2587 02:44:45,269 --> 02:44:46,079 had to have 2588 02:44:47,219 --> 02:44:50,429 no keynote. No, no devices, nothing. 2589 02:44:50,460 --> 02:44:53,910 No devices, no nothing. It's like somebody may use you can 2590 02:44:53,910 --> 02:44:54,120 there's 2591 02:44:54,120 --> 02:44:57,510 cameras everywhere. There's ring cameras. That's why you had to 2592 02:44:57,510 --> 02:44:59,010 change his appearance. 2593 02:45:01,560 --> 02:45:06,540 If this is complete speculation, but what Rahway before a minute, 2594 02:45:07,620 --> 02:45:12,480 they called him in. They called it they called it up in there 2595 02:45:12,480 --> 02:45:15,540 saying they twisted the screws in his head and they put him 2596 02:45:15,540 --> 02:45:18,330 back out there. How do you disappear right into the 2597 02:45:18,330 --> 02:45:21,390 university? I mean, this is Louisville. This is this is a 2598 02:45:21,390 --> 02:45:26,040 major city. No cameras, no nothing just disappear. And no. 2599 02:45:27,420 --> 02:45:33,930 Fox News took that bait and chomped it up. Hotline and say 2600 02:45:33,930 --> 02:45:34,920 Yes, sir. 2601 02:45:35,940 --> 02:45:39,450 Put line and sinker and now is bad black people are taking 2602 02:45:39,450 --> 02:45:40,620 shots at politicians. 2603 02:45:40,680 --> 02:45:49,170 Yeah. And it's black man. Of course. Of course so sick, sick 2604 02:45:49,770 --> 02:45:52,770 cousin, but you remember what's the other guy's name a hawk or 2605 02:45:52,770 --> 02:45:57,420 whatever. I called him Hall. What was his name? I think he 2606 02:45:57,420 --> 02:45:59,670 went he went every time they wanted a black violet man. 2607 02:45:59,760 --> 02:46:03,990 Right, right. Roll him out. Yeah, we'll get in blood. And 2608 02:46:03,990 --> 02:46:08,430 we're just talking crazy. So this is just I think 2609 02:46:08,430 --> 02:46:11,280 speculating. You know, cuz this is kind of like end of the show 2610 02:46:11,280 --> 02:46:16,650 kind of stuff. But it seems like this is too convenient. This is 2611 02:46:16,650 --> 02:46:20,460 took him so it started made me think we did a show about this 2612 02:46:20,460 --> 02:46:25,560 kind of right? Show 31. And that was Gabby Eugene, long three 2613 02:46:25,560 --> 02:46:28,410 names, of course. Number 20. Number 26. 2614 02:46:28,559 --> 02:46:33,269 First off self preservation. The first law of nature is the same 2615 02:46:33,299 --> 02:46:37,289 thing. Same way as when America they put you on a mainstream 2616 02:46:37,289 --> 02:46:41,309 they put on the mainstream media that is a new tyrant, a new 2617 02:46:41,309 --> 02:46:45,719 enemy. And they go and physically do an assault on that 2618 02:46:45,719 --> 02:46:50,849 country is the same thing. And it's the same way how when I was 2619 02:46:50,849 --> 02:46:56,789 in the Marines, I went in fall, you know what? United States 2620 02:46:58,409 --> 02:47:02,369 because there was a so called enemy. So it's no other that is 2621 02:47:02,399 --> 02:47:05,579 not different from someone fighting against you and 2622 02:47:05,579 --> 02:47:08,549 assaulting you and you protecting yourself is the same 2623 02:47:08,549 --> 02:47:11,189 way. There's nothing wrong with it. You got the right to defend 2624 02:47:11,189 --> 02:47:16,379 yourself at any moment. If someone is assaulting you, and 2625 02:47:16,379 --> 02:47:19,499 gang stalking is an assault on you physically, mentally, 2626 02:47:19,529 --> 02:47:24,479 spiritually, emotionally and psychologically. So you got to 2627 02:47:24,479 --> 02:47:27,029 write to defend yourself at any moment. You got to write to 2628 02:47:27,029 --> 02:47:30,959 preserve Yes. To preserve your life at any moment you choose. 2629 02:47:30,959 --> 02:47:32,549 And you're gonna be right. Man, 2630 02:47:32,550 --> 02:47:35,280 you think they got some kind of MK Ultra dungeon? They're at the 2631 02:47:35,280 --> 02:47:39,690 University in Louisville. I do think so. I mean, that's where 2632 02:47:39,720 --> 02:47:43,770 that's where Ted Kaczynski got his programming. University. You 2633 02:47:43,770 --> 02:47:47,940 can't. Yeah, exactly. And you disappears near the universe. 2634 02:47:47,970 --> 02:47:51,690 Yeah. And for people that didn't know who that was talking, that 2635 02:47:51,690 --> 02:47:57,270 was Gavin. Gavin Eugene, long. He was the Baltimore cop killer. 2636 02:47:57,660 --> 02:47:59,040 That yeah, the Baton Rouge cop. 2637 02:47:59,250 --> 02:48:03,030 Give me the Baltimore Baton Rouge cop killer. And he this is 2638 02:48:03,030 --> 02:48:06,960 him on his YouTube video, talking about how he was gang, 2639 02:48:06,960 --> 02:48:10,350 stop, stop. And for people that don't know who what gang stalked 2640 02:48:10,350 --> 02:48:13,770 is, that is when they take several different people follow 2641 02:48:13,770 --> 02:48:17,880 you around moving stuff around the house. Total manipulation on 2642 02:48:17,880 --> 02:48:21,690 the mind, to the point where it makes you crazy. And now we have 2643 02:48:21,690 --> 02:48:26,250 this man here, no history of mental illness. All of a sudden, 2644 02:48:26,250 --> 02:48:29,550 he shaves his head, shaved his hair off and just disappears 2645 02:48:29,550 --> 02:48:34,140 into your saying into the ether around the university. And then 2646 02:48:34,140 --> 02:48:40,380 he pops back up there saying gun wielding a tip that assassin 2647 02:48:41,790 --> 02:48:46,680 crazy. That doesn't make any sense. But we saw this in 2016. 2648 02:48:46,920 --> 02:48:50,220 This is how they took the pressure off with Black Lives 2649 02:48:50,220 --> 02:48:53,130 Matter the first time. They had the two shootings, one in Dallas 2650 02:48:53,130 --> 02:48:56,190 one in Baton Rouge. And then they went underground until 2651 02:48:56,190 --> 02:49:06,270 2020. I think this is a similar case. Wow. So I could watch Yes. 2652 02:49:07,260 --> 02:49:10,080 If you want to hear more from I got another clip from Gavin 2653 02:49:10,080 --> 02:49:11,970 Eugene long if you like to hear it. Sure. 2654 02:49:12,029 --> 02:49:15,269 I follow nature. I'm in tune with nature. Nowhere in nature, 2655 02:49:15,269 --> 02:49:23,189 you go see a goddamn lion protest and when a gang guy has 2656 02:49:23,189 --> 02:49:26,489 come to attack his ass, he will be peaceful protest and holding 2657 02:49:26,489 --> 02:49:30,509 up signs. You're not gonna see it in nature anywhere. Because 2658 02:49:30,509 --> 02:49:34,799 self preservation is the first law of nature. Every animal in 2659 02:49:34,799 --> 02:49:38,399 nature. I know human beings are not animals. But you have the 2660 02:49:38,399 --> 02:49:42,899 right to preserve yourself. You can choose to or you can you 2661 02:49:42,899 --> 02:49:45,629 don't have to fight that. That's that's the difference between 2662 02:49:45,689 --> 02:49:52,349 human beings and animals. You have the choice, you see. But if 2663 02:49:52,349 --> 02:49:55,199 you choose the fight back there are no consequences. So that's 2664 02:49:55,199 --> 02:49:58,709 that's the difference. So a lot of teachers don't even know that 2665 02:49:58,709 --> 02:50:02,999 harassment is a felony. stalking with harassment is a damn 2666 02:50:02,999 --> 02:50:07,649 felony. That's a felony charge. You definitely have the right to 2667 02:50:07,649 --> 02:50:11,189 defend yourself. And if someone is and you know gang stalking is 2668 02:50:11,279 --> 02:50:13,499 they're trying to attempt you. They're trying to make you 2669 02:50:13,949 --> 02:50:17,789 attempt suicide. That's attempted murder. If someone is 2670 02:50:17,789 --> 02:50:21,839 trying to tempt you to force to force you into suicide, isn't 2671 02:50:21,839 --> 02:50:25,349 that attempted murder? Come on now. Let's open our eyes. Get it 2672 02:50:25,349 --> 02:50:29,039 together eight. Defend yourself at all costs. Stand in your 2673 02:50:29,039 --> 02:50:32,009 righteousness. Die in your righteousness period. 2674 02:50:33,450 --> 02:50:39,690 Yeah, yeah, Nim bring up. I have to bring up the Navy. First. 2675 02:50:40,050 --> 02:50:45,030 Naval Yard shooter. Yes. Gosh, St. St. Mo. Yeah, hearing 2676 02:50:45,030 --> 02:50:47,850 voices. What was that? Well, he actually wrote a shotgun on me. 2677 02:50:48,300 --> 02:50:51,510 And man for something like a electromagnetic frequency and 2678 02:50:52,020 --> 02:50:56,340 EMP excuse me EMP. He actually wrote that on the shotguns which 2679 02:50:56,820 --> 02:51:00,960 a hotel room like three or four times that night, trying to get 2680 02:51:00,960 --> 02:51:03,960 away from the voices. So I mean, this is not far. I know. It 2681 02:51:03,960 --> 02:51:04,980 sounds crazy for the 2682 02:51:06,180 --> 02:51:09,090 listeners, you know, you know me. I'm all in on that. Mo. I'm 2683 02:51:09,090 --> 02:51:11,610 good with the directed energy weapons. You bet. 2684 02:51:12,180 --> 02:51:16,290 So now all of a sudden this guy just comes in and pop shots at 2685 02:51:16,290 --> 02:51:19,710 the candidate for mayor. It doesn't make any sense. Right. 2686 02:51:19,740 --> 02:51:24,150 And like you said Fox News at the hook. Like hook line and 2687 02:51:24,150 --> 02:51:28,710 sinker. Yeah. Big time. So that mean, that's a little. We had to 2688 02:51:28,710 --> 02:51:31,800 give people some theorem action. So yeah, 2689 02:51:32,370 --> 02:51:33,480 they got it. They got it. 2690 02:51:34,800 --> 02:51:39,750 Now I have a mini block I want to get into. Okay. And this is a 2691 02:51:39,750 --> 02:51:43,620 recent news and this is Joe Biden nominated black woman for 2692 02:51:43,620 --> 02:51:45,900 Supreme Court. Talk about it. Yes, 2693 02:51:45,900 --> 02:51:48,240 that's right. Check. The White House today declined to discuss 2694 02:51:48,240 --> 02:51:51,270 the upcoming vacancy but said President Biden stands by that 2695 02:51:51,270 --> 02:51:54,000 campaign pledge to nominate a black woman to a lifetime 2696 02:51:54,000 --> 02:51:57,360 appointment on the Supreme Court and pointed to the diversity of 2697 02:51:57,360 --> 02:52:00,510 judicial nominees. The President has already installed on the 2698 02:52:00,510 --> 02:52:03,360 federal bench. Does the President believe that the 2699 02:52:03,360 --> 02:52:06,780 current makeup of the court accurately reflects America's 2700 02:52:06,780 --> 02:52:07,530 demographics 2701 02:52:07,560 --> 02:52:13,680 he has nominated a historic number of judges who are people 2702 02:52:13,680 --> 02:52:16,290 of color, a historic I don't know if it's a stark number of 2703 02:52:16,290 --> 02:52:19,710 women, but a majority of the judges he is nominated are 2704 02:52:19,710 --> 02:52:23,580 women. That speaks to His desire and his interest and having 2705 02:52:23,580 --> 02:52:27,180 courts around the country that look like America and that 2706 02:52:27,180 --> 02:52:29,340 represent the experiences of America. 2707 02:52:29,670 --> 02:52:33,390 President Biden has nominated 62 women to the federal judiciary, 2708 02:52:33,390 --> 02:52:37,110 including 19 black women. Possible replacements for 2709 02:52:37,110 --> 02:52:40,860 Justice Breyer, according to NBC News include judge Hitachi brown 2710 02:52:40,860 --> 02:52:43,560 Jackson, whom the president interviewed personally for her 2711 02:52:43,560 --> 02:52:47,250 position on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, seen by some as a 2712 02:52:47,250 --> 02:52:50,250 farm League for the high court and California Supreme Court 2713 02:52:50,250 --> 02:52:53,850 Justice Leandro Krueger, South Carolina Democrat and key Biden 2714 02:52:53,850 --> 02:52:57,240 ally Jim Clyburn has back to judge Michelle child's from his 2715 02:52:57,240 --> 02:53:00,780 home state to fill the vacancy, any appointment would come at an 2716 02:53:00,780 --> 02:53:04,500 inflection point for Mr. Biden a potentially legacy defining pick 2717 02:53:04,500 --> 02:53:07,620 after a series of policy defeats, and before that 2718 02:53:07,620 --> 02:53:10,830 consequential midterm election that could cost Democrats their 2719 02:53:10,830 --> 02:53:13,680 majority. President Biden's own experience with these 2720 02:53:13,680 --> 02:53:17,280 nominations runs deep chairing the Senate Judiciary Committee 2721 02:53:17,280 --> 02:53:20,910 for eight years, and witnessing firsthand the protracted failed 2722 02:53:20,910 --> 02:53:25,230 confirmation of Judge Merrick Garland in 2016. As to whether 2723 02:53:25,230 --> 02:53:28,650 all 50 Democrats would unite behind the President's pick, 2724 02:53:28,830 --> 02:53:31,410 today, the press secretary told me that's the hope. 2725 02:53:32,160 --> 02:53:36,690 Yeah, that's the hope, the hope, yes, that's the they are really 2726 02:53:36,690 --> 02:53:37,980 setting and building 2727 02:53:37,980 --> 02:53:40,920 an excuse. Yeah, they may not be able to find a suitable 2728 02:53:40,920 --> 02:53:41,490 candidate. 2729 02:53:41,940 --> 02:53:45,300 Well, no, it's gonna be the white supremacist Democrats. 2730 02:53:46,890 --> 02:53:49,860 It's gonna keep you know, when you hear that, it's like, oh, we 2731 02:53:49,860 --> 02:53:53,460 need all the Democratic votes. Now. We know. They've struggled 2732 02:53:53,460 --> 02:53:57,360 to get all the Democrats on board for anything almost. Yeah. 2733 02:53:57,900 --> 02:54:02,130 Was it mentioned and what's the other one? Right, there have 2734 02:54:02,130 --> 02:54:05,790 been the white supremacist and not my words. That's what other 2735 02:54:05,790 --> 02:54:08,430 Democrats are calling them right? Because they didn't vote 2736 02:54:08,430 --> 02:54:11,040 for whatever they want them to vote. So I think that's that 2737 02:54:11,040 --> 02:54:15,300 they're going to be the built in reason for him not doing it now. 2738 02:54:15,510 --> 02:54:18,660 But I don't think it's gonna happen. But if if it was to 2739 02:54:18,660 --> 02:54:21,600 happen, I think it's interesting. I know who I think 2740 02:54:21,600 --> 02:54:24,780 I know who's gonna win. But before we say that, this is no 2741 02:54:24,780 --> 02:54:28,590 surprise. We knew they're trying to get the Supreme Court justice 2742 02:54:28,590 --> 02:54:33,210 in black women, because they put that whole Washington Post 2743 02:54:33,210 --> 02:54:38,010 thing. Remember, you always Joe Biden, right. Yeah. That made 2744 02:54:38,010 --> 02:54:43,290 their list of demands then. But it's funny that 62 women were 2745 02:54:43,290 --> 02:54:49,500 nominated. And this the numbers are based at 19. Roland Martin 2746 02:54:49,500 --> 02:54:55,980 said eight eight black women under 62. Roland Martin has 24 2747 02:54:55,980 --> 02:55:01,890 black people were nominated and 24 Only eight were women. So 2748 02:55:01,890 --> 02:55:04,740 it's like twice as many black men got it, and then it had to 2749 02:55:04,740 --> 02:55:10,590 make any oath or pledge. I find it interesting. Yeah, yeah. So 2750 02:55:10,590 --> 02:55:14,220 these numbers, these numbers are funny. So that's, I don't think 2751 02:55:14,220 --> 02:55:17,250 they're gonna get it. Just because it's a mess there. Hope 2752 02:55:17,370 --> 02:55:21,330 this should be a slam dunk. I mean, this should be, um, you 2753 02:55:21,330 --> 02:55:26,670 know, all the all the Democrats should be on the same side. Now 2754 02:55:26,700 --> 02:55:29,580 this leads to before I get into who I think is going to win. 2755 02:55:30,720 --> 02:55:36,210 This, I think they learned from Trump to say, if we get what we 2756 02:55:36,240 --> 02:55:39,150 give them what they want, they might not show up in 2024. 2757 02:55:39,420 --> 02:55:43,950 Right. We got to keep them engaged until after 2024. 2758 02:55:44,640 --> 02:55:47,040 Because if you wanted to give him saying you will pull 2759 02:55:47,040 --> 02:55:49,560 everybody into the room you say all the Democrats say you got to 2760 02:55:49,560 --> 02:55:54,030 vote, please. Where they learn from Trump my theory. Oh, that 2761 02:55:54,030 --> 02:55:56,910 really messed trump up. Yeah. When he gave the Republicans 2762 02:55:56,910 --> 02:56:00,900 their their that third justice like, thanks. Now I don't need 2763 02:56:00,900 --> 02:56:04,470 you. Right. So I think Joe Biden understands that and he's gonna 2764 02:56:04,470 --> 02:56:06,690 be like, well, we've tried but you know, and I think that's why 2765 02:56:06,690 --> 02:56:10,710 he harped on matching and cinema like they did earlier. Because 2766 02:56:10,710 --> 02:56:13,710 they're gonna be the ones or there'll be two or one or 2767 02:56:13,710 --> 02:56:17,820 whatever it would just be posed up. Obsessed album cart. So 2768 02:56:17,850 --> 02:56:20,190 that's my theory on I think they learned from Trump. 2769 02:56:21,000 --> 02:56:23,190 Alright, who they're gonna pick? 2770 02:56:24,060 --> 02:56:28,110 I think they're gonna pick Jim Coburn's. If they if they do it, 2771 02:56:28,200 --> 02:56:32,190 really I'll pick Yes. You remember Jim Clyburn was the 2772 02:56:32,190 --> 02:56:33,810 kingmaker for Joe Biden. 2773 02:56:34,289 --> 02:56:36,839 Oh, right. He she needs to get paid. 2774 02:56:38,040 --> 02:56:41,250 Exactly. You everybody said what did he get out of this? He 2775 02:56:41,250 --> 02:56:43,500 didn't get anything out of this. Right. 2776 02:56:43,560 --> 02:56:44,940 And here it is. 2777 02:56:45,660 --> 02:56:46,380 29 2778 02:56:46,650 --> 02:56:50,820 Congressman Clyburn, thank you for joining us. Right now. Most 2779 02:56:50,820 --> 02:56:52,410 Democrats think you're a kingmaker. 2780 02:56:54,150 --> 02:56:55,890 But thank you very much for having me. 2781 02:56:56,760 --> 02:56:59,250 And are you pretty confident now this is wrapped up for Joe 2782 02:56:59,250 --> 02:57:04,980 Biden? Sorry, you pretty confident now this is wrapped up 2783 02:57:04,980 --> 02:57:05,790 for Joe Biden? 2784 02:57:07,020 --> 02:57:12,270 Oh, yes, I am. I think that Joe Biden has run a great campaign. 2785 02:57:12,630 --> 02:57:17,850 I think the numbers are coming in very clearly in his favor. I 2786 02:57:17,850 --> 02:57:23,610 do believe that when things are said and done over the next 24 2787 02:57:23,640 --> 02:57:30,930 hours, he will be declared the winner. All of us are looking 2788 02:57:30,930 --> 02:57:34,980 forward to that. He was just a great guy. Exactly what the 2789 02:57:34,980 --> 02:57:38,160 country needs at this particular point. That's what 2790 02:57:38,160 --> 02:57:40,980 you said back in February. Take us back to that moment, I think 2791 02:57:40,980 --> 02:57:44,340 was the Monday before the South Carolina primary, you came out 2792 02:57:44,520 --> 02:57:47,910 and decided it was time to endorse and embrace Joe Biden 2793 02:57:47,940 --> 02:57:50,490 walk us through your decision making process? Could you 2794 02:57:50,490 --> 02:57:52,920 imagine it would have the impact that it had? 2795 02:57:52,980 --> 02:57:57,540 No, I did not imagine that. But I do know that I was working. 2796 02:57:59,820 --> 02:58:03,450 Now go out what you're wanting to hear his question. And listen 2797 02:58:03,450 --> 02:58:05,250 to this double top. Jim does. 2798 02:58:06,029 --> 02:58:09,389 Okay, you came out and decided it was time to endorse and 2799 02:58:09,389 --> 02:58:12,539 embrace Joe Biden walk us through your decision making 2800 02:58:12,539 --> 02:58:15,719 process? Could you imagine it would have the impact that it 2801 02:58:15,719 --> 02:58:16,139 had? 2802 02:58:16,170 --> 02:58:20,730 No, I did not imagine that. But I do know that I was working 2803 02:58:20,730 --> 02:58:25,740 hard to try to not only make an endorsement, but to do it in 2804 02:58:25,740 --> 02:58:30,900 such a way that we give him a surge, which is what he needs. 2805 02:58:31,410 --> 02:58:34,530 He has just come out of three primaries and lost all of them, 2806 02:58:34,800 --> 02:58:39,690 and did okay in Nevada. But it was really his campaign was on 2807 02:58:39,690 --> 02:58:48,330 life support. And I knew this the kind of guy that we needed 2808 02:58:48,330 --> 02:58:49,470 to have our nomination. 2809 02:58:50,070 --> 02:58:53,760 I knew that I could own this bitch. That's what that's what 2810 02:58:53,760 --> 02:59:01,680 he was thinking. Oh, wow, that's pretty good. Mo I like it. That 2811 02:59:01,680 --> 02:59:03,150 would make a lot of sense. 2812 02:59:03,629 --> 02:59:07,199 So I think if they do it, but I think Jim's gonna get you're 2813 02:59:07,199 --> 02:59:07,949 saying get god. 2814 02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:11,880 Yeah, yeah, he because he might get strung along for a bit 2815 02:59:11,880 --> 02:59:12,270 there. 2816 02:59:12,810 --> 02:59:16,140 What you have, if you can't give Black people what they won't 2817 02:59:17,010 --> 02:59:22,590 know how that goes, come on. This next time, you say, my 2818 02:59:22,590 --> 02:59:26,700 hands are tied. And then you just rinse and repeat. We are 2819 02:59:26,790 --> 02:59:29,790 not saying it's very flippantly but we've seen how this happens. 2820 02:59:29,940 --> 02:59:34,470 If I ask you, right, yeah, yeah. You call us after the election. 2821 02:59:34,470 --> 02:59:38,670 They're gonna tell Jim the same thing. What just cuz they're 2822 02:59:38,670 --> 02:59:41,340 saying just for people say, Well, you read into what he 2823 02:59:41,340 --> 02:59:46,320 said. Batman said he No. He said, No. And he say, No, I 2824 02:59:46,320 --> 02:59:50,520 didn't know but he said I knew. And then he realized he's given. 2825 02:59:52,140 --> 02:59:56,610 He says, I thought I knew how you think you know, but just to 2826 02:59:56,610 --> 03:00:02,220 solidify the fact that he knew that he had a Joe Biden right 2827 03:00:02,220 --> 03:00:05,160 where he wanted him. Here's the endorsement, the official 2828 03:00:05,160 --> 03:00:07,590 endorsement of Joe Biden by Cogburn. 2829 03:00:07,949 --> 03:00:11,309 Fellow. I'm crossing with Jim Clyburn, and at least South 2830 03:00:11,309 --> 03:00:14,129 Carolinians, but the one thing, the best way to tell what a 2831 03:00:14,129 --> 03:00:19,109 person will do is look at what he or she has done. I know Joe 2832 03:00:19,109 --> 03:00:23,219 Biden. I know His character, just hawk and his record. Joe 2833 03:00:23,219 --> 03:00:26,039 Biden has stood for the hard working people of South 2834 03:00:26,039 --> 03:00:32,129 Carolina. We know Joe. But more importantly, he knows us. Joe 2835 03:00:32,129 --> 03:00:35,639 will bill on President Obama's legacy, but can expand the 2836 03:00:35,639 --> 03:00:40,079 Affordable Care Act and take on the NRA. In South Carolina. We 2837 03:00:40,079 --> 03:00:43,439 choose precedents for President Clinton came to South Carolina. 2838 03:00:43,799 --> 03:00:47,099 We launched him to the White House, and President Obama came 2839 03:00:47,099 --> 03:00:51,239 to South Carolina. We lost him to the White House. Now Joe 2840 03:00:51,239 --> 03:00:55,349 Biden is in South Carolina and we are going to launch him to 2841 03:00:55,349 --> 03:00:58,919 the White House. I'm calling on you to stand with Joe Biden. 2842 03:01:00,149 --> 03:01:01,079 Yay. 2843 03:01:01,350 --> 03:01:02,310 I thought you didn't know 2844 03:01:02,310 --> 03:01:06,210 Jim first right I thought I knew I didn't kind of know you know 2845 03:01:08,129 --> 03:01:12,779 all the presidents that they you know, they're put out your SAM 2846 03:01:12,779 --> 03:01:14,699 to put a put in the office 2847 03:01:14,730 --> 03:01:19,110 what me Kingmaker me a kingmaker. Now, I really, 2848 03:01:19,500 --> 03:01:22,290 and that will be his legacy. You're saying by hitting the 2849 03:01:22,290 --> 03:01:27,990 Supreme Court jet. So I'll just say all this to say all this, 2850 03:01:28,050 --> 03:01:32,550 you know, going outside you owe us Joe. Joe, you owe us. You're 2851 03:01:32,550 --> 03:01:37,560 saying by the COVID the blue light blue light coven. Right. 2852 03:01:37,920 --> 03:01:42,420 Jim, the whole town that had the cards. No kidding. It was Jim 2853 03:01:42,420 --> 03:01:46,230 the whole time. Ah, so we're gonna see how it plays out. But 2854 03:01:46,230 --> 03:01:52,080 there is one observation everybody has made about the 2855 03:01:52,560 --> 03:01:59,670 majority of these possible people to be confirmed as the 2856 03:01:59,670 --> 03:02:04,380 next Supreme Court justice. A lot of them have white husbands. 2857 03:02:04,980 --> 03:02:07,020 Oh, really? No. Yes. 2858 03:02:08,970 --> 03:02:14,880 So much so that this is this is probably the greatest piece of 2859 03:02:14,880 --> 03:02:20,970 pandering in mo facts with Adam curry history. The next one we 2860 03:02:20,970 --> 03:02:25,440 bought I'm saying that this is not hyperbole strap. Folks strap 2861 03:02:25,440 --> 03:02:32,760 in. This is Michael Eric Dyson. caping for for the Supreme Court 2862 03:02:32,760 --> 03:02:34,380 Justice and Joe Biden. 2863 03:02:34,830 --> 03:02:37,050 And I know some people got a problem with some of these 2864 03:02:37,050 --> 03:02:40,620 women, man to white man. Yeah, I'm gonna go there this morning. 2865 03:02:40,800 --> 03:02:45,300 Oh my god. What? Well, look, I don't know the situation. But 2866 03:02:45,300 --> 03:02:47,940 this what I do know some of them. A lot of them are dark 2867 03:02:47,940 --> 03:02:50,820 skinned black women and some negros got a problem seeing the 2868 03:02:50,820 --> 03:02:53,880 beauty in dark skinned black women. Don't you be mad because 2869 03:02:53,880 --> 03:02:58,230 a white boy came along and saw what you threw away? I said as 2870 03:02:58,230 --> 03:03:00,960 everybody I said as everything I'm not saying it's universal. 2871 03:03:01,170 --> 03:03:04,770 But before you rag on them understand the story. Some of 2872 03:03:04,770 --> 03:03:08,670 these darker skinned black women don't get no love would be could 2873 03:03:08,670 --> 03:03:11,310 be in a place like Harvard, Princeton and Yale and the 2874 03:03:11,310 --> 03:03:14,370 brothers Dayton all white women. That's their choice if they want 2875 03:03:14,370 --> 03:03:17,190 to do that, but look, kind of look at the demonization of 2876 03:03:17,190 --> 03:03:20,400 darkness. Look at the chocolate charm that's being overlooked. 2877 03:03:20,490 --> 03:03:23,670 Look at it and we got everything in the book, vanilla vitality. 2878 03:03:23,820 --> 03:03:27,900 Carmel cuteness, chocolate charm, mocha magic. We got it 2879 03:03:27,900 --> 03:03:32,280 all bruh and yet we overlook that right? Because we think 2880 03:03:32,430 --> 03:03:38,280 that the white man's water is wet. And skin and flesh is 2881 03:03:38,280 --> 03:03:42,420 sweeter and sexier. So don't be mad at Black women who refusing 2882 03:03:42,540 --> 03:03:45,330 to be by themselves if they wanted to be a partner accepted 2883 03:03:45,330 --> 03:03:48,750 the love and devotion of a white man who saw their value beyond 2884 03:03:48,750 --> 03:03:52,860 their skin in a way that certain black men could or saw the 2885 03:03:52,860 --> 03:03:57,420 beauty and value in their skin. Not transcending their darkness 2886 03:03:57,540 --> 03:04:01,290 inhabiting it in delicious fashion. But that's another 2887 03:04:01,290 --> 03:04:01,740 story. 2888 03:04:02,280 --> 03:04:05,580 Now when was this right afterwards? 2889 03:04:07,230 --> 03:04:09,270 No, yes, 2890 03:04:09,959 --> 03:04:18,029 but the evil so the evil white patriarchy man is smart. 2891 03:04:19,650 --> 03:04:24,930 By finding by finding and loving the lowly down dark skin, it was 2892 03:04:24,930 --> 03:04:30,720 so it was so patronizing. And at same time disrespectful to dark 2893 03:04:30,720 --> 03:04:35,010 skinned women. Yes. And while we talk about this, I want you to 2894 03:04:35,010 --> 03:04:41,610 Google the air Michael Eric Dyson, his wife but the point 2895 03:04:41,610 --> 03:04:44,910 I'm trying to make is this he went straight Method Man like 2896 03:04:44,910 --> 03:04:50,730 chocolate did Lux butter pecan called me Poppy brown what is 2897 03:04:50,730 --> 03:04:54,060 you talking about? He was saying What are you talking about and 2898 03:04:54,060 --> 03:04:58,770 then say that but he bought into them being dark skinned and 2899 03:04:58,770 --> 03:05:03,090 something last name So it's weird what he did, but I've 2900 03:05:03,090 --> 03:05:07,320 never heard somebody pander so hard. I'm 2901 03:05:07,530 --> 03:05:10,770 Marcia Louis Dyson, a she an heiress. 2902 03:05:12,540 --> 03:05:15,780 I don't know what she is, but you're saying she she she's up 2903 03:05:15,780 --> 03:05:20,820 the ladder. Whew. I know that's much, but, but my point is this. 2904 03:05:21,480 --> 03:05:29,130 These are the same people. They just shredded Clarence Thomas. I 2905 03:05:29,130 --> 03:05:32,070 don't I'm not here to take over Clarence Thomas. But what I'm 2906 03:05:32,070 --> 03:05:38,880 saying is that the hypocrisy for him having a white wife, he 2907 03:05:38,880 --> 03:05:42,330 wasn't like y'all he's a sellout. He's big he wouldn't 2908 03:05:42,330 --> 03:05:45,630 even fight marry your sister. But then when it's on the 2909 03:05:45,630 --> 03:05:48,510 Democratic side now you see what I'm talking about in the first 2910 03:05:48,570 --> 03:05:49,140 year Sure. 2911 03:05:49,140 --> 03:05:49,980 She's white. 2912 03:05:50,879 --> 03:05:54,719 I didn't say I said she's like white light. Okay, like now he's 2913 03:05:54,719 --> 03:06:01,979 talking about dark these dark skinned says the white bread and 2914 03:06:01,979 --> 03:06:05,549 white why you mean cuz you love who you love. I don't like 2915 03:06:05,549 --> 03:06:08,039 getting into the colors argument. What I'm saying is 2916 03:06:08,459 --> 03:06:13,829 that he accuses brothers, as he say, wanting to go by the light 2917 03:06:13,859 --> 03:06:18,059 or white. But he did the same thing. And then he wants to 2918 03:06:18,059 --> 03:06:24,719 demonize and we saw the same thing happen with a Roland 2919 03:06:24,719 --> 03:06:29,039 Martin. The whole thing came up about Kamala Harris merito white 2920 03:06:29,039 --> 03:06:33,779 man. Black men are haters. They're hate hateful to hate. So 2921 03:06:33,779 --> 03:06:38,879 it made me wonder, why is MICHAEL DYSON so easily 2922 03:06:38,879 --> 03:06:45,839 persuaded? So I had to do a chicken. And I found ADL slams 2923 03:06:45,869 --> 03:06:50,879 MSNBC pundit MICHAEL ERIC DYSON book comparing Clarence Thomas 2924 03:06:51,119 --> 03:06:53,159 to Jews who sided with Hitler. 2925 03:06:57,000 --> 03:06:59,220 Oh, so that's what they got on him. Hmm. 2926 03:06:59,400 --> 03:07:03,090 Can this be how they can use Jenkins chain anytime they want 2927 03:07:03,090 --> 03:07:07,830 to? And they can get him on NBC anytime they want to or get him 2928 03:07:07,830 --> 03:07:10,710 kicked out. Think he's at Georgetown now. Anytime they 2929 03:07:10,710 --> 03:07:13,200 want to. Could they can bring this up. I'll bet. 2930 03:07:14,580 --> 03:07:17,430 So you see how it works? Yep. Unbelievable. 2931 03:07:18,180 --> 03:07:20,730 Yeah, there's this is like I said, people think I'll make 2932 03:07:20,730 --> 03:07:24,720 this stuff up. But no, no, no, no, no. It's a mess. It's just 2933 03:07:24,840 --> 03:07:31,350 fascinating how he went forges black man hate dark skin. What 2934 03:07:31,350 --> 03:07:35,580 are you talking about? Nobody saying that. It's the fact that 2935 03:07:35,820 --> 03:07:40,230 would you seen this trend? What's the head of the Justice 2936 03:07:40,230 --> 03:07:49,290 Department civil rights Kristin? Yes. Yeah. White Man. Kamala 2937 03:07:49,290 --> 03:07:52,410 Harris white man, most of these sisters here not to say you love 2938 03:07:52,410 --> 03:07:55,080 who you love. That's not the point. But when we start to 2939 03:07:55,080 --> 03:08:00,540 question this trend, like y'all talk black, which are sweet 2940 03:08:00,540 --> 03:08:04,110 white. And that reason why I bring that up because it's a 2941 03:08:04,110 --> 03:08:12,090 double standard, because anytime a black man's would qualify. So 2942 03:08:12,090 --> 03:08:14,130 that's my whole point of bringing that up. And it's just 2943 03:08:14,130 --> 03:08:18,450 like my, I've never seen the level of pandering, you got out 2944 03:08:18,450 --> 03:08:21,810 and that family? Y'all know what we gonna do in the last tapes. 2945 03:08:21,930 --> 03:08:24,900 So y'all better show up I got the video. It means actual 2946 03:08:24,900 --> 03:08:30,720 video. This guy is ridiculously pandering and he has to be aware 2947 03:08:30,720 --> 03:08:34,980 of how it's gonna come across. Or he's not fit to do the job 2948 03:08:34,980 --> 03:08:39,000 he's doing if he's not aware he's gonna come across. But when 2949 03:08:39,000 --> 03:08:41,100 they got leverage on it, you got to do what you say what you got 2950 03:08:41,100 --> 03:08:44,880 to you got to do it. They were. So I mean, that's just they were 2951 03:08:44,880 --> 03:08:47,910 saying that was the beast last week, see, blah. They're saying 2952 03:08:47,910 --> 03:08:50,730 I'm talking about Joe Biden, and also a fat man, we're gonna talk 2953 03:08:50,730 --> 03:08:56,340 about him crack pipes, too. And Joe Biden's handing out? Is this 2954 03:08:56,370 --> 03:08:59,310 I'm not a drug person. You're saying I wasn't in Hollywood 2955 03:08:59,310 --> 03:09:01,290 around this kind of thing. And I'm not saying you are drug 2956 03:09:01,290 --> 03:09:05,190 person. But isn't a crack pipe and a meth pipe the same kind of 2957 03:09:05,190 --> 03:09:05,610 thing? 2958 03:09:08,040 --> 03:09:09,540 I can't I don't know. 2959 03:09:10,170 --> 03:09:13,860 I assume so. I tried to Google. And they all look the same to 2960 03:09:13,860 --> 03:09:16,200 me. I don't know if they function in different ways. But 2961 03:09:16,200 --> 03:09:19,260 you're not hiding labor as crack pipes to make it for racial and 2962 03:09:19,260 --> 03:09:20,160 Jeremy ratio. 2963 03:09:20,220 --> 03:09:25,050 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, in general, I would say, Well, I 2964 03:09:25,050 --> 03:09:27,900 think metal straws. I really don't know mo but 2965 03:09:27,930 --> 03:09:30,840 it's not what I'm just saying is like just black people in crack 2966 03:09:30,840 --> 03:09:32,040 pipe. Well, we're gonna talk about that. 2967 03:09:32,520 --> 03:09:35,790 Right, instead of meth pipe. It's crack pipe. And that always 2968 03:09:35,790 --> 03:09:38,430 insinuates black drug addicts. 2969 03:09:38,730 --> 03:09:41,160 Right. Yeah. So that just that part 2970 03:09:41,190 --> 03:09:43,950 and Maxine Waters and Maxine Waters, I don't know for some 2971 03:09:43,950 --> 03:09:46,500 reason when I hear crack pipe. I always think of Maxine Waters. I 2972 03:09:46,500 --> 03:09:48,810 don't know. I don't know why. 2973 03:09:49,320 --> 03:09:51,540 Well, the thing is, like you said she knew what was happening 2974 03:09:51,540 --> 03:09:53,460 out in California when it who was bringing all the drugs, 2975 03:09:53,460 --> 03:09:57,660 yeah, CIA that she got quiet. Maybe it was costing her 2976 03:09:57,660 --> 03:10:02,700 associations. Were being anti semitic. I don't know maybe I'm 2977 03:10:02,700 --> 03:10:07,920 just saying probably, but that's the end of the C slash BS B 2978 03:10:07,920 --> 03:10:11,880 slash C Block. And we think some more producers buy like brand 2979 03:10:11,880 --> 03:10:12,210 new money. 2980 03:10:12,209 --> 03:10:16,079 I just I don't want any money around me it's not I don't want 2981 03:10:16,259 --> 03:10:20,669 to have a new one that our brand than an old 20 That's kind of 2982 03:10:20,669 --> 03:10:23,249 dumb and but there's something about new money that excites 2983 03:10:23,249 --> 03:10:29,039 you. You like $100 bills. I owe money to the most beautiful 2984 03:10:29,039 --> 03:10:31,739 thing on earth is $100 Bill, I haven't seen a woman is good 2985 03:10:31,739 --> 03:10:35,399 looking at $100 bills excites you. 2986 03:10:36,990 --> 03:10:41,640 And this is finishing up our donations for episode number 76 2987 03:10:41,640 --> 03:10:45,600 More facts with Adam curry. 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Go to Mo Mo facts calm the 3032 03:14:15,240 --> 03:14:20,970 donation page mo fund me calm mo e f u n d me calm and drop the 3033 03:14:20,970 --> 03:14:24,630 legacy app get a new podcast app a new podcast apps calm and 3034 03:14:24,630 --> 03:14:26,880 boost us with your booster gramps 3035 03:14:29,730 --> 03:14:33,900 Alright, so we're in the final block. I guess we just jump 3036 03:14:33,900 --> 03:14:35,130 right into it. 33 3037 03:14:35,249 --> 03:14:38,429 new travel for popular podcast with Joe Rogan. He is 3038 03:14:38,459 --> 03:14:42,509 apologizing this morning over past use of a racial slur this 3039 03:14:42,509 --> 03:14:47,369 as another artist as Spotify to remove music in protest. MCs 3040 03:14:47,369 --> 03:14:49,379 Earnshaw has more good morning serene. 3041 03:14:49,799 --> 03:14:53,579 Good morning Eva. We cannot even tell you the first letter of the 3042 03:14:53,579 --> 03:14:57,539 word that Joe Rogan wants repeatedly used. That is how it 3043 03:14:57,539 --> 03:15:00,839 is really star podcast are now coming under even greater 3044 03:15:00,839 --> 03:15:01,589 scrutiny. 3045 03:15:03,120 --> 03:15:07,500 You can't even say N word anymore. We can't even mention 3046 03:15:07,500 --> 03:15:10,020 the first letter. Oh no let me guess. 3047 03:15:10,650 --> 03:15:13,620 The word has actually been banned and wow you would know 3048 03:15:13,620 --> 03:15:18,060 we'll never on my part out we'll never discuss the N word on this 3049 03:15:18,060 --> 03:15:23,460 show because it's so triggering it was an hour just understand 3050 03:15:23,460 --> 03:15:26,490 the weight of you do you do as well of course but it's gotten 3051 03:15:26,490 --> 03:15:29,130 so sent out and the reason why I brought it up my you stopped I'm 3052 03:15:29,130 --> 03:15:32,640 glad you did but I wasn't sleep you call it? You can't even say 3053 03:15:32,730 --> 03:15:38,520 inward anymore. That's let alone actual inward. The first time I 3054 03:15:38,520 --> 03:15:39,240 heard this, I've 3055 03:15:39,240 --> 03:15:42,210 never heard this. I've never heard this. Back to the clip. 3056 03:15:42,510 --> 03:15:45,990 Good morning. Eva. We cannot even tell you the first letter 3057 03:15:45,990 --> 03:15:50,190 of the word that Joe Rogan wants repeatedly used. That is how bad 3058 03:15:50,190 --> 03:15:53,550 it is. The star podcasts are now coming under even greater 3059 03:15:53,550 --> 03:15:58,830 scrutiny. This morning Spotify reportedly removing over 70 3060 03:15:58,830 --> 03:16:02,250 episodes of The Joe Rogan experience from their platform. 3061 03:16:02,430 --> 03:16:06,360 This comes as the embattled podcaster is now apologizing for 3062 03:16:06,360 --> 03:16:10,710 what he says is a regretful and shameful use of a racial slur 3063 03:16:10,710 --> 03:16:13,920 multiple times over several years on his show. 3064 03:16:13,949 --> 03:16:19,379 There's no context where a white person is ever allowed to say 3065 03:16:19,379 --> 03:16:23,759 that word nevermind publicly on a podcast. And I agree with 3066 03:16:23,759 --> 03:16:26,519 that. Now, I haven't said in years. 3067 03:16:26,580 --> 03:16:30,450 Rogan's use of the racial slur resurfacing after r&b singer 3068 03:16:30,450 --> 03:16:33,960 India reposted a compilation spanning several years on 3069 03:16:33,960 --> 03:16:35,460 Instagram, you know, 3070 03:16:36,390 --> 03:16:41,790 saying the word you already said. He is just like it's a 3071 03:16:41,790 --> 03:16:47,130 video that's made of clips taken out of context of me of 12 years 3072 03:16:47,130 --> 03:16:50,880 of conversations on my podcast, and it's all smushed together. 3073 03:16:50,940 --> 03:16:53,250 And it looks horrible, even to me. 3074 03:16:54,120 --> 03:16:57,420 Ah, well, I think we are the two guys to talk about this now, 3075 03:16:57,420 --> 03:16:57,870 aren't we? 3076 03:16:58,410 --> 03:17:00,090 I think we're the only two Yeah, I 3077 03:17:00,090 --> 03:17:02,940 think we I think we actually come with with qualifications 3078 03:17:02,940 --> 03:17:03,660 for this one. 3079 03:17:03,990 --> 03:17:07,710 Right. And, and skin in the game. Cuz we do have the Joe 3080 03:17:07,740 --> 03:17:12,270 John ammo. Producers. Yeah, you know, I know you and Joe are 3081 03:17:12,270 --> 03:17:15,150 cool. Yeah. But at the same time, I when you're in the 3082 03:17:15,150 --> 03:17:17,850 media, we got to talk about it. And that's what we're gonna do 3083 03:17:17,880 --> 03:17:18,630 next. Now, 3084 03:17:18,750 --> 03:17:21,330 I just want to say one thing I heard in that clip, which I only 3085 03:17:21,330 --> 03:17:25,050 realized now, he said, That's the word as a white man I should 3086 03:17:25,050 --> 03:17:30,330 never use and then he said, let alone publicly on a podcast. I 3087 03:17:30,330 --> 03:17:31,320 found that interesting. 3088 03:17:32,070 --> 03:17:35,190 So is he saying nobody should use it on the podcast? 3089 03:17:35,220 --> 03:17:39,510 No. What I the way I hear what you heard. What I what I heard 3090 03:17:39,510 --> 03:17:43,560 was, well, maybe okay, if I do it in private? Am I reading too 3091 03:17:43,560 --> 03:17:45,270 much into it? No, 3092 03:17:45,629 --> 03:17:48,869 no, I read when I heard it was not he should never say it 3093 03:17:50,849 --> 03:17:54,629 should never be said on a podcast. Voice it is publicly 3094 03:17:54,839 --> 03:17:55,619 ever seen. 3095 03:17:55,650 --> 03:18:00,600 Yeah. I said, well, but he said a white man publicly on a 3096 03:18:00,600 --> 03:18:06,930 podcast that that's I don't know. I don't know. The thing 3097 03:18:06,930 --> 03:18:11,190 was Joe is I know him is a very sweet, very charitable, 3098 03:18:11,220 --> 03:18:16,440 incredibly kind man, to everybody. So you know that 3099 03:18:16,440 --> 03:18:22,860 that's just how I know him. So it's hard for me to even think 3100 03:18:22,860 --> 03:18:29,310 that he could, that he could say think that Oh, but I can do that 3101 03:18:29,310 --> 03:18:32,040 in private. I'm just covering all the bases here. 3102 03:18:32,820 --> 03:18:37,980 And the thing is, like, this is how I see it all the way he said 3103 03:18:37,980 --> 03:18:40,800 it was taken out of context. And that's not what I found 3104 03:18:40,830 --> 03:18:43,560 offensive. And what we're gonna we're gonna get to what I for me 3105 03:18:43,560 --> 03:18:49,200 as a black man found offensive. Because if you're saying in 3106 03:18:49,200 --> 03:18:51,630 context, or reading lyrics, or, 3107 03:18:52,049 --> 03:18:56,069 or, or album titles, or some quoting lot 3108 03:18:56,070 --> 03:19:00,420 movie lines, it's kind of like, as a as a media person. Are you 3109 03:19:00,420 --> 03:19:04,500 allowed to say that? I don't know. They're saying, If I would 3110 03:19:04,500 --> 03:19:07,410 have heard it real time, and I understand the context. But what 3111 03:19:07,410 --> 03:19:12,600 I'm saying is one, this was a hit this this was a clip I want 3112 03:19:12,600 --> 03:19:15,960 to make clear, this was a clear hit. The COVID stuff wouldn't 3113 03:19:15,960 --> 03:19:20,520 work. And so they had say, you know, what, who can we piss off? 3114 03:19:20,820 --> 03:19:24,240 To get him off of here? We can't do it ourselves. Once again, 3115 03:19:24,240 --> 03:19:28,530 they go back to the workers. It's like we're out here. Let's 3116 03:19:28,530 --> 03:19:31,980 get a dark skinned woman. Yep. Because that played into it. 3117 03:19:32,970 --> 03:19:37,980 Let's get a dark skinned woman to come out here to say she was 3118 03:19:37,980 --> 03:19:42,390 offended by it. And will whatever these clips were being 3119 03:19:42,390 --> 03:19:46,080 surfaced or been going around or whatever, like that, and that 3120 03:19:46,080 --> 03:19:48,750 that was the whole point. Now the reason why I find this 3121 03:19:48,750 --> 03:19:52,770 disrespectful is they look at black people like we're attack 3122 03:19:52,770 --> 03:19:57,330 dogs, that they can just point and say sick, right to sick, 3123 03:19:57,360 --> 03:20:01,440 right? And this goes back to the first block If we call him the 3124 03:20:01,440 --> 03:20:06,180 hit went doing your dirty work for you. That's the whole, 3125 03:20:06,210 --> 03:20:10,050 that's the whole point about it is just like this is, this is 3126 03:20:10,050 --> 03:20:14,610 about autonomy. I'm not your guy, I'm not your guard dog. And 3127 03:20:14,610 --> 03:20:17,820 this makes me think of Animal Farm. Man, when the pigs took 3128 03:20:17,820 --> 03:20:21,240 over, they took the dogs in the house, and they train the dogs. 3129 03:20:21,240 --> 03:20:24,870 And that's how they maintain power on the farm. This is 3130 03:20:24,870 --> 03:20:27,870 exactly the case of that. They think black people are their 3131 03:20:27,870 --> 03:20:31,920 attack dogs. And I was so proud of black people, for the most 3132 03:20:31,920 --> 03:20:34,410 part was like, Nah, we're not doing that we're not doing your 3133 03:20:34,410 --> 03:20:38,760 dirty work for you. Um, you can't see them yourself. Without 3134 03:20:38,760 --> 03:20:42,990 us getting involved. They really can get hit take taking down. 3135 03:20:43,020 --> 03:20:45,900 Now another thing about that first clip? The reason why they 3136 03:20:45,900 --> 03:20:48,030 I don't think they said the inward, they don't want to 3137 03:20:48,030 --> 03:20:50,640 destroy Joe. They want to co opt him. 3138 03:20:51,720 --> 03:20:56,250 Oh, for sure. Oh, definitely. And oh, you don't want 3139 03:20:56,250 --> 03:20:59,460 to use them? We don't want to ruin them use them up a little 3140 03:20:59,460 --> 03:20:59,670 bit. 3141 03:21:00,180 --> 03:21:03,120 Useful. No, he's useful. And he's got an open microphone, 3142 03:21:03,120 --> 03:21:06,600 which we now have already pressured him into saying, Yeah, 3143 03:21:06,600 --> 03:21:09,960 I want to have one me, you know, one opinion on the next show get 3144 03:21:09,960 --> 03:21:14,280 another opinion on. So that's the pressure to have certain 3145 03:21:14,280 --> 03:21:16,200 type of voices heard. 3146 03:21:16,890 --> 03:21:20,190 Right. And I would like to take the time to say you're saying I 3147 03:21:20,190 --> 03:21:22,110 don't know you want to talk about this not by fillers 3148 03:21:22,140 --> 03:21:25,020 necessarily talking about I did call you and I know Joe's your 3149 03:21:25,020 --> 03:21:29,370 friend. And and it's like this, if one of my friends. Like just 3150 03:21:29,370 --> 03:21:33,030 like star for instance, if star wasn't a jam, you know, saying, 3151 03:21:33,480 --> 03:21:37,620 I would like to have the ability to opt out like eight out of 10. 3152 03:21:37,620 --> 03:21:40,440 I really want to talk about this. But I'll guarantee to the 3153 03:21:40,440 --> 03:21:43,920 producers. In fact, family. If we ever did that, we will still 3154 03:21:43,920 --> 03:21:46,590 come here and talk about why we don't want to talk about it. You 3155 03:21:46,590 --> 03:21:51,030 don't say just because I understand I'm aware of if we 3156 03:21:51,030 --> 03:21:55,020 don't talk about it, then it's like oh, Adam, you're saying 3157 03:21:55,020 --> 03:21:56,400 pulling most chain? 3158 03:21:57,299 --> 03:22:01,379 Yeah, so yes, Mo called me. And I didn't even understand what 3159 03:22:01,379 --> 03:22:04,709 you were asking initially. Like, have you talked about the the 3160 03:22:04,709 --> 03:22:07,019 Rogan thing? And I'm like, Yeah, I talked about the wrong thing. 3161 03:22:07,019 --> 03:22:10,589 There's no agenda and all this. And I was like, Oh, you mean the 3162 03:22:10,589 --> 03:22:13,649 N word thing? No, no, of course not. There's only one man in the 3163 03:22:13,649 --> 03:22:16,919 world that I need to talk about that with on a podcast. And if I 3164 03:22:16,919 --> 03:22:19,289 asked the Vortech he'd say, Man, you need to talk to me about 3165 03:22:19,289 --> 03:22:27,209 that. And so and this is this to me. And I, the way I perceive 3166 03:22:27,209 --> 03:22:31,049 Joe and my friend Joe, is he be actually very delighted if he 3167 03:22:31,049 --> 03:22:34,649 heard that we were the ones discussing this the way only we 3168 03:22:34,649 --> 03:22:38,939 can and it's a hell of a lot more useful. I think for us to 3169 03:22:38,939 --> 03:22:40,439 do that. Then then most 3170 03:22:41,370 --> 03:22:44,100 right, so the thing I was like I said, once again, the thing I 3171 03:22:44,100 --> 03:22:48,420 was upset by one couple things upset me one that people think 3172 03:22:48,420 --> 03:22:53,220 they can just say attack and we attack. We don't work like that. 3173 03:22:53,250 --> 03:22:56,190 Those days are over. You're saying is steal people's gone? 3174 03:22:56,250 --> 03:23:01,620 I'm saying just fly off the handle. But no, it's what am I 3175 03:23:01,620 --> 03:23:03,390 getting out of it? It's hacking take him down. 3176 03:23:03,570 --> 03:23:07,200 I heard I heard a lot of black people pushing back say wow, you 3177 03:23:07,200 --> 03:23:09,750 know, I mean, they didn't really, they just would have 3178 03:23:09,750 --> 03:23:13,710 like, swerve a little bit of mumbling out of context. There 3179 03:23:13,710 --> 03:23:16,320 was no uprising, if that's what you mean, 3180 03:23:16,590 --> 03:23:21,480 is because it was this is how dumb they think we are. It was 3181 03:23:21,480 --> 03:23:27,270 so thinly veiled it's fresh off of the the COVID attacks. And 3182 03:23:27,270 --> 03:23:32,130 then you come right back with the racist attack. Yeah, and I 3183 03:23:32,130 --> 03:23:34,260 don't want to put anything out into the ether. But you know, 3184 03:23:34,260 --> 03:23:36,570 there's gonna be another attack. If you're saying if you don't 3185 03:23:36,570 --> 03:23:40,770 understand you're saying, you know, D needs to stay in line. 3186 03:23:41,790 --> 03:23:44,550 And it's gonna show you this house. This is how the media 3187 03:23:44,550 --> 03:23:49,350 works. Now, I want to get to the second part of the era. Yeah, 3188 03:23:49,350 --> 03:23:50,610 the G the GMA clip, 3189 03:23:51,120 --> 03:23:54,480 are we protesting Rogan's language requesting Spotify 3190 03:23:54,480 --> 03:23:55,920 removed her music? 3191 03:23:56,190 --> 03:23:59,610 My hope is that some of my artist friends would follow in 3192 03:23:59,640 --> 03:24:03,000 come along with me. Because one of the hashtags I put on my 3193 03:24:03,000 --> 03:24:06,000 posts was what if we all leave? There's absolutely no 3194 03:24:06,000 --> 03:24:09,720 circumstance that a white person should be using that racial slur 3195 03:24:09,870 --> 03:24:10,740 period, 3196 03:24:10,799 --> 03:24:14,399 Spotify, his space growing pressure over Rogen show artists 3197 03:24:14,399 --> 03:24:17,099 like Joni Mitchell and Neil Young taking down their 3198 03:24:17,099 --> 03:24:20,909 recordings over Rogan spreading COVID misinformation at 3199 03:24:20,910 --> 03:24:25,320 Spotify right now is finding itself in a very serious 3200 03:24:25,320 --> 03:24:28,860 predicament because on the one hand, they say they don't censor 3201 03:24:28,860 --> 03:24:33,540 creators, but they've also got people saying things that are 3202 03:24:33,570 --> 03:24:38,730 untrue and potentially damaging in a public health sense and 3203 03:24:38,850 --> 03:24:43,140 racist on their platform. They've got to draw the line 3204 03:24:43,140 --> 03:24:43,710 somewhere. 3205 03:24:43,949 --> 03:24:47,099 Dwayne The Rock Johnson initially showed support for Joe 3206 03:24:47,099 --> 03:24:50,009 Rogan through the COVID controversy, but he appears to 3207 03:24:50,009 --> 03:24:53,279 be distancing himself now tweeting that he did not know 3208 03:24:53,279 --> 03:24:56,819 about the use of the racial slur. Meanwhile, Spotify has not 3209 03:24:56,819 --> 03:24:59,789 publicly commented on the recent controversy. 3210 03:25:01,319 --> 03:25:07,559 The Rock the rock you got that call? 3211 03:25:08,670 --> 03:25:12,360 I don't care how big you think you are rock. They were like a 3212 03:25:12,360 --> 03:25:16,170 step out the way. They said a rock, you know that spot on the 3213 03:25:16,170 --> 03:25:20,700 Superbowl you got coming up? He be ashamed if you know you got 3214 03:25:20,700 --> 03:25:26,820 pulled? Yeah. Ah, you know, that kind of thing. So just like I 3215 03:25:26,820 --> 03:25:27,150 said, 3216 03:25:28,170 --> 03:25:30,900 that's exactly what happened with him this exactly what 3217 03:25:30,900 --> 03:25:31,800 happened with him. 3218 03:25:32,580 --> 03:25:39,270 I don't know how y'all down. But the thing is, is this hearing 3219 03:25:39,270 --> 03:25:42,360 any comments hearing in a context? That didn't really 3220 03:25:42,390 --> 03:25:46,560 upset me? Um, but I wasn't set with some of the stuff. He said, 3221 03:25:46,590 --> 03:25:49,530 I think I'm gonna keep it 100. And I always keep we were saying 3222 03:25:49,530 --> 03:25:51,210 100 with the family. And 3223 03:25:51,510 --> 03:25:55,440 I think and I, as we talked briefly, before the show about 3224 03:25:55,440 --> 03:25:58,170 this, I think I anticipate well, you took offense at which I 3225 03:25:58,650 --> 03:26:01,740 wholeheartedly agree with it, maybe more, but we'll find 3226 03:26:01,740 --> 03:26:06,090 out. So what we're going to do is we'll get to that. But Andy 3227 03:26:06,150 --> 03:26:10,530 arry even got reeled in, it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, they're 3228 03:26:10,530 --> 03:26:13,620 calling Joe racist. You need to go out here and clean it up, 3229 03:26:13,860 --> 03:26:17,550 that he's not a racist. And I'm like, why would she post that 3230 03:26:17,550 --> 03:26:22,260 man? If it wasn't she didn't think he was racist, is that she 3231 03:26:22,260 --> 03:26:25,560 wanted a better cut for artists on Spotify. 3232 03:26:25,590 --> 03:26:29,640 And, and this and this is the problem with this whole argument 3233 03:26:29,670 --> 03:26:34,080 is and that's Neil Neil Young has always been angry with 3234 03:26:34,080 --> 03:26:38,610 Spotify. All it's about Spotify, not about Joe Rogan. They're 3235 03:26:38,610 --> 03:26:42,150 just taking advantage of it. Oh, my God. We had Elton John Phil 3236 03:26:42,150 --> 03:26:46,500 Collins, a whole bunch of British artists, I think. I 3237 03:26:46,500 --> 03:26:50,580 think Paul McCartney, maybe just a year ago trying to start a 3238 03:26:50,580 --> 03:26:55,530 campaign against Spotify and streaming payments which believe 3239 03:26:55,530 --> 03:27:00,090 it or not all that money is going to the record companies 3240 03:27:00,090 --> 03:27:04,020 who own their asses own their masters and they cut the deal 3241 03:27:04,020 --> 03:27:08,190 they even got stock in Spotify that's that's how corrupt that 3242 03:27:08,190 --> 03:27:12,720 Spotify businesses with the music and they know it they know 3243 03:27:12,720 --> 03:27:13,410 what happened to 3244 03:27:13,470 --> 03:27:16,500 our say to India I read the same thing I said in the first block 3245 03:27:17,010 --> 03:27:20,520 you if you got got your own fault, you signed that class, 3246 03:27:20,520 --> 03:27:24,120 right? So you can't come and whine and complain try to 3247 03:27:24,120 --> 03:27:27,810 leverage black people's emotion and pain. That's why I found 3248 03:27:27,810 --> 03:27:30,660 more sick about it from her side. You know what you're 3249 03:27:30,660 --> 03:27:33,420 doing? You know what that word evokes? You know what the 3250 03:27:33,420 --> 03:27:35,880 incident and you know the inferiority complex that come 3251 03:27:35,880 --> 03:27:38,970 along with that word. And most I'll be honest with you, most 3252 03:27:38,970 --> 03:27:40,980 time when a white person call you that you probably doing 3253 03:27:40,980 --> 03:27:43,530 something right? Because it just seemed like they don't want you 3254 03:27:43,530 --> 03:27:50,190 to keep doing it. That's all I'm gonna say about that word. Cuz I 3255 03:27:50,190 --> 03:27:55,470 mean, like I said, as is so you can't, you can't that's one of 3256 03:27:55,470 --> 03:27:59,130 the things you really can't empathize on. Because the way 3257 03:27:59,130 --> 03:28:03,360 it's designed, um, let's go ahead and get into MDR re 3258 03:28:03,360 --> 03:28:09,660 talking to Don Donald Donald. Donald and say about how she was 3259 03:28:09,660 --> 03:28:11,070 upset but not really upset 3260 03:28:11,220 --> 03:28:14,430 by after highlighting a barrage of racist language repeatedly 3261 03:28:14,430 --> 03:28:17,670 used by Joe Rogan. But she says she's not looking for him to be 3262 03:28:17,670 --> 03:28:22,500 cancelled. And singer songwriter NDI Reed joins me now in via you 3263 03:28:22,500 --> 03:28:27,270 know, I love you. I love I love you since the moment you met you 3264 03:28:27,330 --> 03:28:30,840 met and meeting your music. Thank you for joining us. I 3265 03:28:30,840 --> 03:28:33,600 think you're you're I think you have a very nuanced perspective 3266 03:28:33,600 --> 03:28:36,330 about this. And I really respect it you say that Joe Rogan has 3267 03:28:36,330 --> 03:28:39,210 spurred this protest but it's not actually about him. What's 3268 03:28:39,210 --> 03:28:40,050 it about ma'am? 3269 03:28:42,390 --> 03:28:45,930 I love you to a box make me cry by playing I'm light in my intro 3270 03:28:50,910 --> 03:28:55,470 it's about the influence of energies. Because there is Joe 3271 03:28:55,470 --> 03:28:59,190 Rogan, his insensitive language around race. There's that and 3272 03:28:59,190 --> 03:29:01,830 there's also Spotify in their treatment of artists. And 3273 03:29:01,830 --> 03:29:02,400 there's that 3274 03:29:02,700 --> 03:29:06,480 so you, you were listening. You said you just started tuning out 3275 03:29:06,600 --> 03:29:09,030 and what did you mean by when you held your hand up and you 3276 03:29:09,030 --> 03:29:11,280 said you have an issue with Spotify? Because you have this 3277 03:29:11,280 --> 03:29:14,010 and then you have what do you mean by that? Explain to the 3278 03:29:14,010 --> 03:29:14,400 viewer 3279 03:29:16,049 --> 03:29:24,029 well I feel like the average person confuses celebrity 3280 03:29:24,029 --> 03:29:27,749 culture. I'm gonna hold my hands up again because my my opinions 3281 03:29:27,749 --> 03:29:32,129 are always nuanced. I think human beings we're doing so I 3282 03:29:32,129 --> 03:29:35,699 feel like the average person confuses celebrity culture with 3283 03:29:35,819 --> 03:29:36,839 being a working 3284 03:29:36,870 --> 03:29:40,710 musician. Yeah, okay. 3285 03:29:40,709 --> 03:29:44,189 That was that was the whole point of we want a better cut 3286 03:29:44,279 --> 03:29:47,699 Yeah, I think we should all go that was talking about that 3287 03:29:47,699 --> 03:29:50,159 wasn't talking about black people who that was talking to 3288 03:29:50,159 --> 03:29:52,859 other artists. You're saying let's how it was a strike. It 3289 03:29:52,859 --> 03:29:55,919 was a worker strike or threat of a worker strike 3290 03:29:55,980 --> 03:29:59,550 and what's what's so funny in a sorry, just interrupt about 3291 03:29:59,580 --> 03:30:04,110 Spotify. If you really want to hear some offensive shit, listen 3292 03:30:04,110 --> 03:30:08,820 to some of the music on Spotify. I mean that there's, there's a 3293 03:30:08,820 --> 03:30:13,350 lot of, you know, songs about black men killing black men. 3294 03:30:14,730 --> 03:30:18,930 No, there's actually an artist that killed black men. Killing 3295 03:30:18,930 --> 03:30:22,050 Batman. Yeah, I'm just kidding. She's keeping Yeah, she's 3296 03:30:22,050 --> 03:30:23,220 keeping actually. 3297 03:30:23,820 --> 03:30:26,220 women, women and rap about it. 3298 03:30:26,970 --> 03:30:31,200 Well, I'm just gonna stay at the cumin. There's actually a Deaf 3299 03:30:31,200 --> 03:30:36,270 culture. And shout out to my man ayoko psycho. He is doing 3300 03:30:36,300 --> 03:30:39,450 another YouTuber. He's doing this whole thing about you know, 3301 03:30:39,450 --> 03:30:45,750 the rat trap. And they have it there's an actual an active game 3302 03:30:45,780 --> 03:30:49,770 of murder going on between rappers right now. Where they're 3303 03:30:49,770 --> 03:30:54,180 killing each other. And Spotify plays his music. And they talk 3304 03:30:54,180 --> 03:30:56,400 about all the people that kill and who you're gonna kill. I'm 3305 03:30:56,400 --> 03:30:59,220 talking about lifting nightlight, someone so got shot, 3306 03:30:59,370 --> 03:31:03,930 someone so got shot, someone still got shot. And you hear it 3307 03:31:03,930 --> 03:31:06,750 like that person who raps about it, he'll end up in the news. 3308 03:31:06,750 --> 03:31:10,170 He's dead. And then they'll come back the other side of combat 3309 03:31:10,170 --> 03:31:13,050 and say, someone still got shot? Don't they go down the list and 3310 03:31:13,050 --> 03:31:17,940 he'll get shot. Chicago, Memphis, he was saying all these 3311 03:31:17,970 --> 03:31:20,550 towns? And they have no problem. 3312 03:31:20,789 --> 03:31:24,629 What? What's that call? How do we call that category? 3313 03:31:25,710 --> 03:31:28,560 Well, it's just it's called drill rap. I mean, she probably 3314 03:31:28,560 --> 03:31:31,320 heard it come up and saying that it was the mayor of New York, is 3315 03:31:31,320 --> 03:31:34,950 they have time to do something with it. Yeah, um, but it's the 3316 03:31:34,950 --> 03:31:37,980 whole culture. It's like an interactive flight. It's like 3317 03:31:37,980 --> 03:31:41,280 Grand Theft Auto but in real life, right. All they want to do 3318 03:31:41,280 --> 03:31:45,720 is go around, and they rap about who got cute, and you're saying 3319 03:31:45,750 --> 03:31:48,600 and then when you do that, that's disrespect. So that puts 3320 03:31:48,600 --> 03:31:51,930 a target on your back. And when they call the ops or the other 3321 03:31:51,930 --> 03:31:56,640 side comes and try to kill you. And Spotify profits off of this. 3322 03:31:57,450 --> 03:32:02,580 And I you like so? Oh, I'm more upset about that. Yes, ma'am. 3323 03:32:02,640 --> 03:32:06,450 And a profit and dead black man and I am about saying podcasts 3324 03:32:06,450 --> 03:32:09,840 are standing inward now. Oh, hello. We're waiting on that 3325 03:32:09,840 --> 03:32:13,680 job. Kanaka field eyes rolling. We can't let you off the hook. 3326 03:32:13,680 --> 03:32:15,930 I'm gonna tell you what sent me about Joe. Joe, if you're 3327 03:32:15,930 --> 03:32:18,720 listening, I'm just gonna keep it 100 With you, bro. That 3328 03:32:18,720 --> 03:32:25,830 monkey stuff. I knew it. That monkey stuff. Yeah. That leads 3329 03:32:25,830 --> 03:32:29,730 to black people being subhuman. And I can't give you a pass on 3330 03:32:29,730 --> 03:32:32,790 that one. Full stop. I can't give you a pass on that one. 3331 03:32:32,790 --> 03:32:36,900 Because that leads into the justification of slavery because 3332 03:32:36,900 --> 03:32:41,850 they're subhuman. So we have to be their their protectors. And I 3333 03:32:41,850 --> 03:32:45,000 know he didn't mean it that way. But what I'm saying is that's 3334 03:32:45,000 --> 03:32:53,400 far more offensive offensive. And it's not even a fist is 3335 03:32:54,540 --> 03:32:57,630 triggering. And like I said, this is this goes into the 3336 03:32:57,630 --> 03:33:04,620 racial programming of his time there he sub subhuman. So hold 3337 03:33:04,620 --> 03:33:07,830 on, like, oh, no, I'm subhuman. So that means you know, you 3338 03:33:07,830 --> 03:33:11,370 think, you know, I can't think But in fairness, this is where 3339 03:33:11,370 --> 03:33:14,460 we're gonna get the full context. I have the whole clip 3340 03:33:14,730 --> 03:33:18,780 of Joe Rogan talk about the Planet of the Apes. And we're 3341 03:33:18,780 --> 03:33:21,600 gonna go through it, we can listen to it, you can stop 3342 03:33:21,600 --> 03:33:24,150 anytime you want, you have to listen to the whole clip. But 3343 03:33:24,180 --> 03:33:26,430 this is what went like I said, when I heard that whole clip 3344 03:33:26,430 --> 03:33:29,490 where she played. And I've heard this Planet of the Apes thing 3345 03:33:29,490 --> 03:33:32,460 before and people's being upset about it before. So it's nothing 3346 03:33:32,460 --> 03:33:36,960 new there. But I had to give a full analysis of how it's 3347 03:33:36,990 --> 03:33:41,430 received. So hopefully, people can learn from it, I understand 3348 03:33:41,430 --> 03:33:44,670 why it's offensive, the monkey thing and, and I'll 3349 03:33:44,670 --> 03:33:47,700 say that I can because I've thought about this, I heard that 3350 03:33:47,700 --> 03:33:50,910 too. All of this has been around I've seen that I've seen the N 3351 03:33:50,910 --> 03:33:54,450 word clips and you know, so it was actually quite surprised 3352 03:33:54,450 --> 03:33:58,920 that hadn't been compiled, pre know, some other stuff about 3353 03:33:59,070 --> 03:34:04,890 women. And most of that's, most of that seems like grainy old 3354 03:34:04,890 --> 03:34:08,220 video so I don't really know the context there was there was 3355 03:34:08,250 --> 03:34:11,160 years and years of Joe Rogan experience I was never 3356 03:34:11,160 --> 03:34:13,230 interested because it just seemed like a bunch of dudes 3357 03:34:13,230 --> 03:34:18,240 hanging out drinking smoking, and and talking crap. So it 3358 03:34:18,240 --> 03:34:21,360 never really became interesting until the long form interviews 3359 03:34:21,360 --> 03:34:26,250 till Joe perfected his format. But I cannot personally think of 3360 03:34:26,310 --> 03:34:30,750 any instance where I would use this make this comparison. Not 3361 03:34:30,750 --> 03:34:35,160 not in a joke. Nothing is baffling to me. And now and now 3362 03:34:35,160 --> 03:34:39,000 I have not heard the whole thing in context. So it'll help we 3363 03:34:39,000 --> 03:34:39,990 have everything here. 3364 03:34:40,470 --> 03:34:45,660 Yes, this the whole five minutes on some odd seconds continuous. 3365 03:34:45,690 --> 03:34:48,510 I just put up in clips, so we have space to you know, so you 3366 03:34:48,510 --> 03:34:50,430 didn't have to stop it perfectly. You know, it's the 3367 03:34:50,430 --> 03:34:55,260 whole five minutes of No, no interruption, so I just want to 3368 03:34:55,260 --> 03:34:59,310 play it so people can hear it and I'll give my commentary on 3369 03:34:59,310 --> 03:35:01,170 it and you can give me Your feedback or you can hear what 3370 03:35:01,170 --> 03:35:03,780 you heard. And maybe Thank you. You're, you're saying, you got 3371 03:35:03,960 --> 03:35:05,910 it, you got to get into 36. 3372 03:35:06,450 --> 03:35:10,260 So anyway, we, we can't go to there. So I go, you got to go to 3373 03:35:10,260 --> 03:35:13,350 one where there's planet inks, man, we're gonna go see Planet 3374 03:35:13,350 --> 03:35:16,260 of the Apes. So I look on the iPhone app, and it says, Okay, 3375 03:35:16,260 --> 03:35:18,750 take me to this one. And the guy goes, Okay, goes out in a good 3376 03:35:18,750 --> 03:35:22,290 neighborhood. There's a young guy barely speaks English. He 3377 03:35:22,290 --> 03:35:26,070 takes us there, we get out and we're giggling Uzi, please, we 3378 03:35:26,070 --> 03:35:32,310 walk into Planet of the Apes. We walked into Africa. We walked in 3379 03:35:32,340 --> 03:35:35,460 the door. And there was no white people. There was no white 3380 03:35:35,460 --> 03:35:38,610 people. We planted the incident take place in Africa. That was a 3381 03:35:38,610 --> 03:35:42,420 racist thing. You see what I'm saying? What I'm saying is fine. 3382 03:35:42,450 --> 03:35:45,090 Automatically stuck to your head. Yeah, what would happen is 3383 03:35:45,120 --> 03:35:48,090 we walked into the blackest neighborhood we could find I 3384 03:35:48,090 --> 03:35:51,150 mean, it was there was literally no white people. It was amazing. 3385 03:35:51,570 --> 03:35:55,080 And everybody was super cool. You know, it wasn't a negative 3386 03:35:55,080 --> 03:35:57,660 experience. And this is something I wrote on on Twitter 3387 03:35:57,780 --> 03:36:01,290 that we all went to see Planet of the Apes in a black 3388 03:36:01,290 --> 03:36:04,380 neighborhood and experience I highly recommend, and all these 3389 03:36:04,380 --> 03:36:09,120 fucking people started calling me a racist. I mean, dozens of 3390 03:36:09,120 --> 03:36:12,180 Twitter people do I know you were racist. Fuck you, like 3391 03:36:12,180 --> 03:36:14,970 black people are saying fuck you. I'm like, Listen, man, I am 3392 03:36:14,970 --> 03:36:18,450 saying it was a positive experience. I highly recommend 3393 03:36:18,450 --> 03:36:20,670 and it was a black neighborhood. 3394 03:36:22,500 --> 03:36:26,640 Alright, so you want to hear what I heard? Sure. What I heard 3395 03:36:26,640 --> 03:36:31,620 was Taketake it. We hung out with monkeys. But it was cool. 3396 03:36:31,650 --> 03:36:37,230 They were like a petting zoo. And I was scared to go in there 3397 03:36:37,230 --> 03:36:39,840 with those monkeys. But when I got in there, everything was 3398 03:36:39,840 --> 03:36:40,140 cool. 3399 03:36:40,920 --> 03:36:44,640 So wait a minute. So the but the the original premise, if I 3400 03:36:44,640 --> 03:36:48,150 understand properly, is they wanted to see the movie Planet 3401 03:36:48,180 --> 03:36:51,390 of the Apes in a completely black neighborhood? 3402 03:36:52,020 --> 03:36:54,060 I don't know. I don't think I don't know if that's the only 3403 03:36:54,060 --> 03:36:56,550 place that was available. And that's where they went. I don't 3404 03:36:56,550 --> 03:37:01,380 know. But what I'm just saying is to think that it wouldn't be 3405 03:37:01,380 --> 03:37:06,180 cool. That's the racist part right now. You know, saying 3406 03:37:06,180 --> 03:37:08,490 like, ooh, like, we're gonna like be crapping in our hand and 3407 03:37:08,490 --> 03:37:11,850 throwing it at the screen. That's what I'm saying. That's 3408 03:37:11,850 --> 03:37:16,170 how it's perceived. Now he even acknowledged Dave Sandy was in 3409 03:37:16,170 --> 03:37:20,340 Africa was racist. So he's self aware. Oh, hold on. A self aware 3410 03:37:20,340 --> 03:37:22,140 of how it lands is what I'm saying? No, of 3411 03:37:22,140 --> 03:37:28,860 course, of course. How does he? How does he understand the 3412 03:37:28,890 --> 03:37:34,920 monkey comparison? When he says, Dude, there were no white people 3413 03:37:34,920 --> 03:37:37,230 there. How does that hit you? 3414 03:37:38,039 --> 03:37:42,209 I don't care. I don't care about it's about the sub human part is 3415 03:37:42,209 --> 03:37:46,019 that what upsets people and it's not about looking like a monkey 3416 03:37:46,139 --> 03:37:48,509 coffee. That's what think people think like, oh, you know, look, 3417 03:37:48,509 --> 03:37:51,539 their brain knows the comparison. Yeah, it's the 3418 03:37:51,539 --> 03:37:55,679 actual intelligence thing. That's that's the thing that 3419 03:37:55,679 --> 03:37:58,709 think that we're subhuman. Like, we're the missing link. You're 3420 03:37:58,709 --> 03:38:01,559 saying on the evolution chain. And a lot of this goes into 3421 03:38:01,559 --> 03:38:05,729 Darwinism. See you now we are we we like this is a good setup for 3422 03:38:05,879 --> 03:38:12,269 another show. itself is racist. To truck unbelieving. Yeah. You 3423 03:38:12,269 --> 03:38:15,479 know, saying so that's that's another reason why I set this up 3424 03:38:15,479 --> 03:38:19,649 the way I did, because this only lands to you're saying like 3425 03:38:19,649 --> 03:38:23,279 we're subhuman in it. And when we have intelligence, that's the 3426 03:38:23,579 --> 03:38:26,639 that's the you're saying, Oh, wow, that's a smart one. In 3427 03:38:26,639 --> 03:38:30,059 maths where the Talmud 10 Boulais stuff comes from is that 3428 03:38:30,089 --> 03:38:35,549 oh, we got smart one here. Well, why would I be done? Normally? I 3429 03:38:35,549 --> 03:38:36,839 don't understand that. 3430 03:38:36,869 --> 03:38:38,159 Mo. You're different. 3431 03:38:38,879 --> 03:38:43,349 That's a different thing is races? Uh huh. 3432 03:38:45,060 --> 03:38:48,720 Of course, I've never said that to you have ever said that. Like 3433 03:38:48,720 --> 03:38:50,100 that. I don't think I would say that. 3434 03:38:50,160 --> 03:38:54,900 Well, what different can be used in different ways? Different of 3435 03:38:55,620 --> 03:38:58,410 you don't have the political views as most people. 3436 03:38:58,530 --> 03:39:01,620 Yeah. It's already loaded, though. That's what 3437 03:39:01,620 --> 03:39:04,740 like I said, it's about how things are received, because 3438 03:39:04,770 --> 03:39:06,990 it's processed through the racial programming. 3439 03:39:07,590 --> 03:39:10,890 Well, I don't I don't think Joe has any idea how this was 3440 03:39:10,890 --> 03:39:14,550 received. He does now of course, but I think he still doesn't 3441 03:39:14,550 --> 03:39:16,230 really really understand it. 3442 03:39:16,410 --> 03:39:18,630 And hopefully when he hears this, because I know he listens. 3443 03:39:20,040 --> 03:39:23,790 Hopefully, he'll get it in this life. That's not me saying I 3444 03:39:24,750 --> 03:39:29,970 pretty have a white guy. It's like y'all are you know, that 3445 03:39:29,970 --> 03:39:31,650 kind of good rhythm for white guy? 3446 03:39:31,680 --> 03:39:34,620 Yeah. Unfortunately, unfortunately, you know, the 3447 03:39:34,650 --> 03:39:38,700 racial programming I have is that is meant to immediately be 3448 03:39:39,030 --> 03:39:42,900 I know, right? It's immediately. I'm not supposed to be offended 3449 03:39:42,900 --> 03:39:46,020 by that. That is that is a that's a lifeline. 3450 03:39:46,950 --> 03:39:50,130 Is that cause that's how it was portrayed in the media? That's 3451 03:39:50,130 --> 03:39:53,430 correct. You know, it's the fact that it's supposed to be a 3452 03:39:53,430 --> 03:39:58,320 compliment. I think it was rhythm. I don't like you're 3453 03:39:58,320 --> 03:40:01,530 supposed to beat but what are you saying like 90% of white 3454 03:40:01,530 --> 03:40:04,200 people don't have, I don't understand how that poster work, 3455 03:40:04,230 --> 03:40:05,910 you know. But at the same time, let 3456 03:40:05,910 --> 03:40:08,910 me say I will say amongst my white brothers and sisters, 3457 03:40:08,910 --> 03:40:11,580 there's a lot of clapping on the one in this three, I have to 3458 03:40:11,580 --> 03:40:12,270 admit that 3459 03:40:15,629 --> 03:40:23,339 it's just different I get mad love, 3460 03:40:23,400 --> 03:40:24,990 I love me some river dancing. 3461 03:40:25,140 --> 03:40:27,870 It's just a different rhythm we all got. That's the whole point. 3462 03:40:27,870 --> 03:40:30,390 We all got rid of them. It's just different rhythms. You 3463 03:40:30,390 --> 03:40:33,120 know, we got all got intelligence, it's just 3464 03:40:33,120 --> 03:40:36,030 different intelligence. Sure. So that's what we had there 3465 03:40:36,030 --> 03:40:39,150 appreciate. But we have to understand the media shapes 3466 03:40:39,150 --> 03:40:43,830 things in a certain way, where, you know, years and years and 3467 03:40:43,830 --> 03:40:48,090 years of portraying black people as monkeys, not the fact of 3468 03:40:48,120 --> 03:40:51,420 being a monkey, but it's like you have the intelligence of a 3469 03:40:51,600 --> 03:40:52,470 subhuman. 3470 03:40:52,680 --> 03:40:56,340 I gotta tell you the story, I have to share this. I'm sure she 3471 03:40:56,340 --> 03:41:01,740 will be going back to our school teacher. And, uh, she got in 3472 03:41:01,740 --> 03:41:06,540 huge trouble, like massive trouble. And it was a total 3473 03:41:06,540 --> 03:41:11,520 fuckup. So remember, she's advanced placement. So you know, 3474 03:41:11,550 --> 03:41:15,990 but it is public school. And there was this one, I think it 3475 03:41:15,990 --> 03:41:19,650 was an Asian girls, it was before class. And the Asian girl 3476 03:41:19,650 --> 03:41:23,070 is showing she has a cute little purse with a little monkey on 3477 03:41:23,070 --> 03:41:26,820 it. You know? And so they're just chatting. And then another 3478 03:41:26,820 --> 03:41:30,660 girl walks in another student. And and this is She's a very 3479 03:41:30,660 --> 03:41:33,570 loving public school teacher says hey, monkey, how you doing? 3480 03:41:34,710 --> 03:41:38,310 Now, why she said that is a term of endearment. She had just seen 3481 03:41:38,310 --> 03:41:44,400 a monkey on the, on the on this little purse. And of course, the 3482 03:41:44,400 --> 03:41:46,590 student who had just come in was black. 3483 03:41:47,820 --> 03:41:50,640 I mean, oh, no. Oh, yeah. But that's what she triggered and 3484 03:41:50,640 --> 03:41:51,840 like this the same 3485 03:41:51,840 --> 03:41:56,430 thing in it. And because I know our school t shirt, she's not 3486 03:41:56,430 --> 03:42:02,760 racist, but holy crap. I mean, that was almost career ending 3487 03:42:02,760 --> 03:42:03,210 for her. 3488 03:42:04,680 --> 03:42:07,350 I bet it was because it's about how it's received. 3489 03:42:07,530 --> 03:42:10,500 And the little girl was traumatized. Of course. Of 3490 03:42:10,500 --> 03:42:16,140 course. Of course, too. Anyway, that that was just an example of 3491 03:42:16,140 --> 03:42:21,300 how trauma even though this was a real mess up. And she clearly 3492 03:42:21,300 --> 03:42:26,130 didn't mean to call the student a monkey. But how deeply deeply 3493 03:42:26,130 --> 03:42:29,040 triggering that was. And this, the whole thing was an uproar. 3494 03:42:29,910 --> 03:42:34,620 And the ratio programming can also be into race. Yes, right 3495 03:42:34,770 --> 03:42:39,180 now, as black people sitting on the edge of their seat, to see 3496 03:42:39,180 --> 03:42:42,330 how I'm going to handle this, and I'm aware of that, Okay, 3497 03:42:42,360 --> 03:42:43,980 I'm ready. I know where we're going. 3498 03:42:44,400 --> 03:42:46,500 No, I'm just saying, but that's, that's the whole thing. You're 3499 03:42:46,500 --> 03:42:51,150 like, oh, well, I gotta, I gotta say something. But, you know, 3500 03:42:51,930 --> 03:42:54,420 should I say something? Should I not say something? I mean, these 3501 03:42:54,480 --> 03:42:58,740 thoughts go in your head, but me. I don't know, I'm maybe I'm 3502 03:42:58,740 --> 03:43:01,410 just crazy like that. I mean, that's me, I get it from my dad. 3503 03:43:01,410 --> 03:43:04,890 It's like, I'm gonna say what I feel. You know, and if you don't 3504 03:43:04,890 --> 03:43:07,680 like me because of that, I mean, so be it. But I gotta say, I 3505 03:43:07,680 --> 03:43:10,350 mean, I gotta say how I feel I can't live with myself. And that 3506 03:43:10,350 --> 03:43:13,320 goes back into the point of how I made a decision I made, I have 3507 03:43:13,320 --> 03:43:16,080 to live with myself at the end of the day, you know, because I 3508 03:43:16,080 --> 03:43:18,960 mean, when this is all said and done, like with a shot, I 3509 03:43:18,960 --> 03:43:20,850 couldn't live with myself. That's why I made the decision. 3510 03:43:21,120 --> 03:43:24,000 Speaking on this, you know, saying I gave you the opt out, 3511 03:43:24,030 --> 03:43:26,100 because like I said, if something comes down with one of 3512 03:43:26,100 --> 03:43:28,710 my friends, but we will still come here and say, You know 3513 03:43:28,710 --> 03:43:31,800 what, we're not gonna talk about this. And this is why, and we're 3514 03:43:31,800 --> 03:43:33,150 still gonna have a conversation. Oh, 3515 03:43:33,150 --> 03:43:35,970 no, no, this is this is the actual learning moment from it 3516 03:43:35,970 --> 03:43:39,180 all. Everything that did on mainstream, and his apologies 3517 03:43:39,180 --> 03:43:42,720 is, is Oh, whatever. But this is the learning this, this is where 3518 03:43:42,720 --> 03:43:46,140 you can really understand what the real problem is. 3519 03:43:46,440 --> 03:43:48,450 Exactly. So let's go and get to 37. 3520 03:43:48,570 --> 03:43:52,890 And we get in there, right. And we're so we're so giggly. And 3521 03:43:52,890 --> 03:43:55,050 then I realized like, whoa, everyone's black here, like, 3522 03:43:55,080 --> 03:43:57,780 Well, I mean, everyone's black. It is crazy. And then a bunch of 3523 03:43:57,780 --> 03:43:59,940 people recognize me and just don't want to take pictures. And 3524 03:43:59,940 --> 03:44:03,060 it's all good. Everybody's cool and friendly. Surely shit cool. 3525 03:44:03,690 --> 03:44:07,200 Like this guy goes, Yo, man. I don't wait. I know you from I 3526 03:44:07,200 --> 03:44:08,880 don't want to I don't want to bother you, man. I'm not trying 3527 03:44:08,880 --> 03:44:12,180 to use up your time. Well, I know you from I go Fear Factor. 3528 03:44:12,180 --> 03:44:15,120 I go. Yeah, that's it. You made this was the ways that it was 3529 03:44:15,120 --> 03:44:19,050 like so cool. And we're giggling Oh, no one did the smoke rocks 3530 03:44:19,050 --> 03:44:21,390 thing, but I took a lot of goddamn pictures. And like I 3531 03:44:21,390 --> 03:44:24,420 said, super cool. Super friendly. This is not a negative 3532 03:44:24,420 --> 03:44:28,020 story. So then we go into the movie Good, right? It's me 3533 03:44:28,020 --> 03:44:30,240 Tommy. And like, maybe there's another white person, maybe one 3534 03:44:30,240 --> 03:44:32,850 other white person, movie theater filled with black people 3535 03:44:32,880 --> 03:44:35,940 and they are having a good fucking time. You know, people 3536 03:44:35,940 --> 03:44:38,580 always complain that black people talk to the movie theater 3537 03:44:38,580 --> 03:44:42,030 and talk to screen. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. But it's good. 3538 03:44:43,020 --> 03:44:46,590 Fucking Yeah, if that's what you know. And the way I felt like 3539 03:44:46,590 --> 03:44:49,140 I'm like, Look, I'm in their neighborhood. This is how they 3540 03:44:49,140 --> 03:44:52,650 go to the movies. Who the fuck am I to be offended by how they 3541 03:44:52,650 --> 03:44:53,520 like to go to the movies. 3542 03:44:55,020 --> 03:44:58,800 Okay, so I respect that because he realized that he was saying, 3543 03:44:58,830 --> 03:45:01,680 Hey, I'm in there too. same territory, or a married 3544 03:45:01,710 --> 03:45:04,560 neighborhood, wherever you want to put it, hey, they thought to 3545 03:45:04,560 --> 03:45:06,630 the movies, you're saying the movie screen, that's what we're 3546 03:45:06,630 --> 03:45:07,140 gonna do. 3547 03:45:07,560 --> 03:45:14,580 And I will say I had this experience Time Square 1988 When 3548 03:45:14,580 --> 03:45:18,450 Times Square was still dangerous, and I went to the 3549 03:45:18,450 --> 03:45:22,950 premiere of coming to America, and I'd only been in New York 3550 03:45:22,950 --> 03:45:25,770 for about a year and a half. And it was one of the most 3551 03:45:25,770 --> 03:45:29,400 exhilarating experiences I've ever had. I'd never been to a 3552 03:45:29,400 --> 03:45:30,690 movie theater like that. 3553 03:45:31,200 --> 03:45:36,030 Ever. Because we were the OG reaction. Video, it was the same 3554 03:45:36,030 --> 03:45:42,180 thing. We Black History Month we started it. 3555 03:45:43,049 --> 03:45:46,739 It was it was it was an IT remember I was I was basically, 3556 03:45:47,639 --> 03:45:51,359 I really didn't know much at all about black American culture 3557 03:45:51,359 --> 03:45:55,559 because I'd grown up in Europe. And you know, that's why I will 3558 03:45:55,559 --> 03:45:59,489 walk on Time Square, I was, you know, clearly a very pasty white 3559 03:45:59,489 --> 03:46:01,829 guy I would never wear I'm never afraid of anything or anybody 3560 03:46:01,829 --> 03:46:04,709 because I walked among color all the time. That's how I grew up. 3561 03:46:06,149 --> 03:46:09,569 But that was that was a phenomenal experience. So that 3562 03:46:09,569 --> 03:46:13,049 part, I totally understand what I didn't actually know that the 3563 03:46:13,049 --> 03:46:16,259 theater would be be like 99%. Black. 3564 03:46:17,790 --> 03:46:19,770 But we have a different experience when we watch movies. 3565 03:46:20,340 --> 03:46:26,880 Oh, fun. Yeah. But that's just culturally, us. Yeah. And that's 3566 03:46:26,880 --> 03:46:29,310 the beauty like saying, just appreciate the beauty of it. And 3567 03:46:29,310 --> 03:46:36,570 the thing, like I said, he went into this and the only thing I 3568 03:46:36,570 --> 03:46:40,020 take offense to is why wouldn't you think it would be cool? What 3569 03:46:40,020 --> 03:46:44,220 what would make you think that it wouldn't be cool? Well, 3570 03:46:44,220 --> 03:46:47,580 that's his programming. Practice. That's my point. And 3571 03:46:48,120 --> 03:46:51,750 that didn't my program is triggering off his program. Why 3572 03:46:51,750 --> 03:46:52,740 wouldn't you? Well, 3573 03:46:53,220 --> 03:46:55,920 but isn't that what we know? Isn't that why in the words of 3574 03:46:55,920 --> 03:46:57,930 Malcolm with the only way we're going to figure this shit out as 3575 03:46:57,930 --> 03:47:00,660 we sit down? We talk about it because it turns out, hey, you 3576 03:47:00,660 --> 03:47:02,700 know, like, I thought you were gonna be triggered about my 3577 03:47:02,700 --> 03:47:04,530 being triggered about you're being triggered or thinking me 3578 03:47:04,530 --> 03:47:07,170 being triggered, and it's all dumb. And then 3579 03:47:07,170 --> 03:47:10,290 we do this weird dance and be awkward around. Yeah, this is 3580 03:47:10,290 --> 03:47:13,230 just like, You know what, this is how I feel. You know what, I 3581 03:47:13,230 --> 03:47:15,510 don't feel that way. But like I said, the hard thing I took away 3582 03:47:15,510 --> 03:47:20,310 from it was the the thinking he was implanted at eight is like, 3583 03:47:20,340 --> 03:47:25,020 Yeah, but now I'm not. We're not subhuman. No, no, but that that. 3584 03:47:25,800 --> 03:47:28,770 I don't know. It's just that's comes from years and years and 3585 03:47:28,770 --> 03:47:34,170 years and decades and centuries of black people would just wild 3586 03:47:34,170 --> 03:47:37,890 out on you at any moment. It's no, that's not how it works. 3587 03:47:38,010 --> 03:47:40,080 Well, let's, let's see, what else is there anything else 3588 03:47:40,080 --> 03:47:41,280 triggering in this bit? 3589 03:47:41,519 --> 03:47:43,259 Let's go ahead and go to 38. 3590 03:47:43,679 --> 03:47:46,139 They, they were at the movies, and I'm not saying all black 3591 03:47:46,139 --> 03:47:48,419 neighborhoods do this. But this particular black neighborhood, 3592 03:47:48,569 --> 03:47:50,999 these people brought babies, bro. I mean, there's a lot of 3593 03:47:50,999 --> 03:47:53,699 people with babies. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't just one. These 3594 03:47:53,699 --> 03:47:56,759 these people in front of us walked in and they had toddlers, 3595 03:47:56,879 --> 03:47:59,549 like little two year olds sitting on their lap to see 3596 03:47:59,549 --> 03:48:04,409 PLANET OF THE FUCKING Apes at like 1040 on a Friday night, 3597 03:48:04,409 --> 03:48:07,709 give a fuck. give a fuck not didn't give a fuck. But I'll 3598 03:48:07,709 --> 03:48:10,919 tell you what made me really nervous and made me feel kind of 3599 03:48:10,919 --> 03:48:16,499 weird, was watching all of these previews of all these different 3600 03:48:16,499 --> 03:48:18,869 TV shows, or all these different movies, rather, they're coming 3601 03:48:18,869 --> 03:48:22,829 out. And I'm watching these movies, and all of them are 3602 03:48:22,829 --> 03:48:26,369 about white people. Oh, weird. And I'm sitting there and I'm 3603 03:48:26,369 --> 03:48:30,449 going wow, this is weird. Like, imagine being a black person. 3604 03:48:30,509 --> 03:48:32,939 And I always thought like, people would complain, like, I'd 3605 03:48:32,939 --> 03:48:35,609 hear black people complain about, you know, oh, there's no 3606 03:48:35,609 --> 03:48:39,449 films for black people. There's no roles for black actors. And I 3607 03:48:39,449 --> 03:48:42,119 believe so. Go make a movie. What do you want from me? You 3608 03:48:42,119 --> 03:48:45,419 know, but when you go to a goddamn movie theater was all 3609 03:48:45,419 --> 03:48:48,449 black people. That's when you really feel it. I'm sitting 3610 03:48:48,449 --> 03:48:51,959 there in the audience. And all these people are black, but 3611 03:48:51,989 --> 03:48:54,359 every movie preview is white. 3612 03:48:55,410 --> 03:48:58,020 Well, that's Joe getting some awareness right there. 3613 03:48:59,580 --> 03:49:03,270 You only get awareness from this experience. That's right. And 3614 03:49:03,300 --> 03:49:10,560 that's why if when you go in a room with the black going back 3615 03:49:10,560 --> 03:49:15,060 to the a block when you bring somebody into your saying you 3616 03:49:15,060 --> 03:49:18,330 want to make some money, or where do they offended you, you 3617 03:49:18,330 --> 03:49:21,150 educate them, and that's why they tend to Jewish people do 3618 03:49:21,150 --> 03:49:24,960 that? By saying let me make sure it's clear. We won't have a 3619 03:49:24,960 --> 03:49:29,880 rabbi comes out the price educate you on why this is 3620 03:49:29,880 --> 03:49:34,350 important. As well, they don't want us to do that. They want us 3621 03:49:34,350 --> 03:49:40,470 to be upset, mad right away, it doesn't get solved. And then we 3622 03:49:40,470 --> 03:49:43,680 go and then they always can keep us as an attack dog. And when I 3623 03:49:43,680 --> 03:49:49,710 say they, I mean the capital T H. E Y day, because it's 3624 03:49:49,710 --> 03:49:52,530 functional for them. It's like winning anybody and we won't 3625 03:49:52,530 --> 03:49:55,380 take somebody down. They were saying we can say something say 3626 03:49:55,380 --> 03:49:56,400 they say something right. So 3627 03:49:56,400 --> 03:50:00,750 so doesn't that say a lot I mean you're hearing about The fans 3628 03:50:00,750 --> 03:50:04,500 who, once they recognize it was Joe in this theater, doesn't 3629 03:50:04,500 --> 03:50:11,520 that say a lot about how? really interestingly how mature we are 3630 03:50:11,520 --> 03:50:16,020 that there wasn't that that black America didn't immediately 3631 03:50:16,020 --> 03:50:19,290 go into into outrage and start yelling said, Yeah, you know, we 3632 03:50:19,290 --> 03:50:23,070 kind of know Joe Rogan. He may be I'm just paraphrasing you 3633 03:50:23,070 --> 03:50:26,310 tell me if I'm off base. Like we know Joe Rogan, he doesn't seem 3634 03:50:26,310 --> 03:50:30,900 like you know, he fucked up and we he's got to know which of 3635 03:50:30,900 --> 03:50:33,450 course, there's never any designated person who does that. 3636 03:50:34,650 --> 03:50:37,140 There's a whole bunch of douchebags. Yeah, I would say 3637 03:50:37,140 --> 03:50:40,470 the bigger lender to that was the we understood that somebody 3638 03:50:40,470 --> 03:50:45,450 was trying to trigger a Right, right. dirty work for right now. 3639 03:50:45,660 --> 03:50:50,100 We say if we're trying to call to take down how it goes is a 3640 03:50:50,100 --> 03:50:54,150 Joe, if I'm saying if I'm, if I'm calling the shots, hey, Joe, 3641 03:50:54,450 --> 03:50:57,210 we need to talk. You know, in that clip, he was talking about 3642 03:50:57,210 --> 03:50:59,580 the monkeys, you know, how you said it wasn't a representation, 3643 03:50:59,580 --> 03:51:02,790 you're saying only white people on the screen, you empowered to 3644 03:51:02,790 --> 03:51:06,660 do something about that. Now, Joe, here's our hate for you. We 3645 03:51:06,660 --> 03:51:10,560 could definitely work this out, Joe. Transactional, this is how 3646 03:51:10,560 --> 03:51:14,010 I, this is how mature people work things out, right, it's a 3647 03:51:14,010 --> 03:51:17,070 transaction. Now what we're gonna do, it was Black History 3648 03:51:17,070 --> 03:51:21,000 Month to honcho, what we're gonna need is gonna need some 3649 03:51:21,360 --> 03:51:24,540 black people on your show all of this month. And then we're gonna 3650 03:51:24,540 --> 03:51:26,700 need to talk some of your Hollywood fans about that lack 3651 03:51:26,700 --> 03:51:30,540 of representation in Hollywood, that that's how you work these 3652 03:51:30,540 --> 03:51:33,600 things out on a transactional level, but they wanted us to be 3653 03:51:33,600 --> 03:51:36,750 on our emotional level. And that's why you didn't see the 3654 03:51:36,780 --> 03:51:41,010 outcry that you saw, because people are getting hip to death, 3655 03:51:41,010 --> 03:51:41,460 timing. 3656 03:51:41,910 --> 03:51:45,210 Great. That's improvement that's winning. 3657 03:51:47,220 --> 03:51:50,640 You're getting you make what is getting emotional about 3658 03:51:50,640 --> 03:51:53,700 something gets you other than your emotional release. And you 3659 03:51:53,700 --> 03:51:56,460 go back to the same circumstance that you were in, you know, when 3660 03:51:56,460 --> 03:51:59,430 you're, when you're saying you can leverage, you know, your yo, 3661 03:51:59,460 --> 03:52:01,950 me, it's leverage. I mean, it is what it means business, you 3662 03:52:01,950 --> 03:52:05,220 know, anytime you can leverage something over somebody, you 3663 03:52:05,220 --> 03:52:07,350 know, and it's not about destroying them is just like you 3664 03:52:07,350 --> 03:52:10,230 admit yourself is like a representation, right? You know, 3665 03:52:10,230 --> 03:52:14,670 do something about it. You know, and let me just one more thing, 3666 03:52:14,670 --> 03:52:17,820 before we get to his last clip, there was some other things that 3667 03:52:17,820 --> 03:52:21,660 guests he had on their time on the bell curve, and black people 3668 03:52:21,660 --> 03:52:26,580 or people of color were a proponent, or more likely to 3669 03:52:26,640 --> 03:52:30,540 saying be violent and that kind of stuff. I don't want any of 3670 03:52:30,540 --> 03:52:35,310 that taken down. Because what I rather have is, scholars come in 3671 03:52:35,310 --> 03:52:39,000 and debate you and prove you wrong. See, we need to stop 3672 03:52:39,000 --> 03:52:41,910 this, all we need to do is hurtful. Take it out, take it 3673 03:52:41,910 --> 03:52:46,140 out, put no in invite, y'all have a list. Here's a list of 3674 03:52:46,140 --> 03:52:49,230 people, we want to invite those guys back this pushing the bell 3675 03:52:49,230 --> 03:52:51,900 curve and all this other stuff. And I'm gonna bring these guys 3676 03:52:51,900 --> 03:52:52,920 over, we don't have a debate 3677 03:52:52,950 --> 03:52:56,670 that the only thing I'm gonna push back on that because Joe 3678 03:52:56,670 --> 03:53:00,270 Rogan show is not a debate show, and everybody wants to do this. 3679 03:53:00,420 --> 03:53:04,170 Every everybody wants Joe to have two people on debating. 3680 03:53:04,290 --> 03:53:07,290 That's not what that show is. So I'm going to push back on that 3681 03:53:07,470 --> 03:53:11,760 having having other people on. Absolutely. But debating now 3682 03:53:11,820 --> 03:53:13,650 that the show, 3683 03:53:13,860 --> 03:53:17,460 let me say this about debate to counterbalance that. Whatever. 3684 03:53:17,460 --> 03:53:21,360 Not wherever agenda was pushed that time. He says Oh, Mike, so 3685 03:53:21,360 --> 03:53:23,850 let's have some counterbalance to it. Right had to be on the 3686 03:53:23,850 --> 03:53:24,480 same show. 3687 03:53:24,510 --> 03:53:27,630 I understand. But the danger there, because that's what he 3688 03:53:27,630 --> 03:53:31,710 admitted he would do. And the danger there is who is going to 3689 03:53:31,770 --> 03:53:34,920 push who gets to push those buttons. It ain't gonna be no, 3690 03:53:35,550 --> 03:53:36,900 ain't gonna be more fast. 3691 03:53:37,290 --> 03:53:39,690 I agree with you on that one, because he's gonna be the blue 3692 03:53:39,690 --> 03:53:39,960 light. 3693 03:53:40,110 --> 03:53:43,800 Yes, sir. That's exactly what it's gonna be. That's why 3694 03:53:43,800 --> 03:53:47,310 we need to have independent grassroot representatives you 3695 03:53:47,310 --> 03:53:47,550 need 3696 03:53:47,549 --> 03:53:50,039 to give me you need to give me the damn list. And I give the 3697 03:53:50,039 --> 03:53:54,989 damn list of Mo to Joe. That's That's it? Give me the list. 3698 03:53:55,139 --> 03:53:56,519 Okay, I'll give him the list. 3699 03:53:56,550 --> 03:53:59,100 And I'm not going to make the list. Like I said, everybody 3700 03:53:59,100 --> 03:54:00,420 listening, you're saying whatever you 3701 03:54:01,049 --> 03:54:05,369 give us the list. I look, I can't make the list. Joe can't 3702 03:54:05,369 --> 03:54:09,089 make the list. And go does the list. Joe does the list himself. 3703 03:54:09,119 --> 03:54:10,259 It's Joe's list. 3704 03:54:11,940 --> 03:54:16,680 Right? So what you're saying is this is the fact that all it 3705 03:54:16,680 --> 03:54:19,860 needs to be two sides of the conversation just like when you 3706 03:54:19,860 --> 03:54:24,570 had Sanjay Gupta up there you have a Dr. Malone. You're saying 3707 03:54:24,570 --> 03:54:27,360 to counterbalance it Sure. This this? That's all I'm saying that 3708 03:54:27,600 --> 03:54:30,840 I'm not the one to make the list. But there needs to be 3709 03:54:30,870 --> 03:54:33,960 effort put. And that's why I said if you have somebody 3710 03:54:33,990 --> 03:54:37,020 actually what this proves his lack of representation on the 3711 03:54:37,020 --> 03:54:40,650 black side, morning standard issue you're saying of his. 3712 03:54:41,250 --> 03:54:45,060 I'll draw on and I'll draw an analogy. So whenever I've been 3713 03:54:45,060 --> 03:54:48,870 on there and I talk about Bitcoin, then the whole Bitcoin 3714 03:54:48,870 --> 03:54:55,170 communities like ether community, everyone's got to 3715 03:54:55,170 --> 03:54:57,540 have that person on that person on that. And you know what the 3716 03:54:57,540 --> 03:55:02,970 result is? No one gets on. There's got to be a better way 3717 03:55:04,110 --> 03:55:07,170 to have a list because I can already I already know, I know 3718 03:55:07,170 --> 03:55:09,360 already the people are gonna come out of the woods. Oh, I 3719 03:55:09,360 --> 03:55:11,880 mean, I get it all the time you go on Joe Rogan, here's the 3720 03:55:11,880 --> 03:55:16,350 thing you get. Hey, man, you know, you should tell Joe, he 3721 03:55:16,350 --> 03:55:19,740 should have so and so on. I get this 10 a day. 3722 03:55:20,790 --> 03:55:23,670 And I'm sure you I'm sure you get that because the same thing, 3723 03:55:23,700 --> 03:55:26,820 I might have a much smaller platform. But you always say, 3724 03:55:26,820 --> 03:55:28,320 Oh, you need to have this personal you need to have that 3725 03:55:28,320 --> 03:55:31,350 person. Oh, yeah. It's just like, I want to talk to people 3726 03:55:31,350 --> 03:55:34,890 to interesting. And it's not the point like say, that's the 3727 03:55:34,890 --> 03:55:35,400 opening 3728 03:55:35,400 --> 03:55:41,520 show. So what I'll say is, I guarantee you, I know, knowing 3729 03:55:41,520 --> 03:55:46,710 Joe, he's a very thoughtful dude, he sits and he's not I 3730 03:55:46,710 --> 03:55:49,500 mean, he works a lot but he thinks a lot. And he reads a 3731 03:55:49,500 --> 03:55:53,910 lot. And he and I share all kinds of stuff that I mean, you 3732 03:55:53,910 --> 03:55:57,030 remember my first or second appearance? I was talking about 3733 03:55:57,030 --> 03:56:00,990 a das you'd never heard of it. You know this? This is a process 3734 03:56:00,990 --> 03:56:04,380 you know, it takes a little while. And by the way, not a lot 3735 03:56:04,380 --> 03:56:08,010 of help from a das when I did that. I got a lot of people's 3736 03:56:08,010 --> 03:56:11,460 And who the fuck are you to talk about it. Look, I'm this is a 3737 03:56:11,460 --> 03:56:14,820 process, no matter who it is. And I think Joe got a turbo 3738 03:56:14,820 --> 03:56:17,910 charge. We'll see. We'll see. But I have a good feeling 3739 03:56:18,060 --> 03:56:21,360 is that when you bring stuff to the table, it makes them aware 3740 03:56:21,360 --> 03:56:24,840 of it to say, oh, there's a boss. There's actually exactly 3741 03:56:24,840 --> 03:56:26,460 it's not there. That's my point. 3742 03:56:26,460 --> 03:56:32,040 But But my point is when people are allies are helping or 3743 03:56:32,040 --> 03:56:35,400 whatever. Don't shoot the fucking messenger because I got 3744 03:56:35,400 --> 03:56:36,390 a little gun shy, 3745 03:56:36,870 --> 03:56:37,920 huh? You know, I'm 3746 03:56:37,920 --> 03:56:41,190 like, Well, hey, dude, there's a das and there's some shit going 3747 03:56:41,190 --> 03:56:45,780 on that I'm just learning myself. You know, the what? The 3748 03:56:45,870 --> 03:56:49,260 knee jerk reaction is dad was this cracker talking about this 3749 03:56:49,260 --> 03:56:52,890 shit. We need this person on that person. That's not helpful. 3750 03:56:54,629 --> 03:56:57,269 It's no different. It was no different in the Bitcoin 3751 03:56:57,269 --> 03:56:59,819 community. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's not helpful 3752 03:56:59,819 --> 03:57:05,249 either. And I always say a whole variety of different agendas, 3753 03:57:05,279 --> 03:57:10,709 brother agenda, agenda, agenda, points of view. Now No, cuz if 3754 03:57:10,709 --> 03:57:13,139 you say eight off the bat, people gonna say what about us? 3755 03:57:13,139 --> 03:57:16,139 And if you say, I know Yeah, you're gonna and no matter 3756 03:57:16,890 --> 03:57:20,280 no matter what I say the hotel has always been told me I know. 3757 03:57:20,699 --> 03:57:27,419 Right? Yes, that's my whole point is but open it up to when 3758 03:57:27,419 --> 03:57:30,509 you're only when you're pushing stuff like black people are 3759 03:57:30,539 --> 03:57:34,349 prone to violence like we need to we need to talk to somebody 3760 03:57:34,349 --> 03:57:38,639 to counter that, you know? Yes, a hell of a hell. That's not 3761 03:57:38,639 --> 03:57:41,909 what I'm saying. That kind of stuff. Just like with the Sanjay 3762 03:57:41,909 --> 03:57:45,089 Gupta, Dr. Malone, that would be the perfect balance. Gotta have 3763 03:57:45,089 --> 03:57:48,179 him on the same show him saying he didn't even want to dress 3764 03:57:48,179 --> 03:57:52,289 each other directly. But it was like less and I get it Joe 3765 03:57:52,289 --> 03:57:59,819 Rogan's podcast is to put a fringe ideas out there, I get 3766 03:57:59,819 --> 03:58:03,119 it, by the mudslide. That's why people tune in the mudslide, 3767 03:58:03,389 --> 03:58:06,509 aliens, UFOs, all these different things, things that 3768 03:58:06,509 --> 03:58:08,849 you don't hear on the mainstream. I get that. But 3769 03:58:08,849 --> 03:58:11,879 there's a there's an opportunity for that as well. And I'm just 3770 03:58:11,879 --> 03:58:15,179 saying if you if we were the ones that called him to task, 3771 03:58:15,389 --> 03:58:18,029 but obviously we were not when I said the quote unquote black 3772 03:58:18,029 --> 03:58:22,229 community are not the ones that push this agenda. No, if we were 3773 03:58:22,229 --> 03:58:23,759 that's how it happens, because trust me