1 00:00:19,980 --> 00:00:24,510 More facts with Adam curry for February 2 2022. This is episode 2 00:00:24,510 --> 00:00:29,940 number 75. Two episodes in two weeks back to back. Yes, we are 3 00:00:29,940 --> 00:00:32,850 on fire. I'm Adam curry coming to you from the heart of the 4 00:00:32,850 --> 00:00:36,060 Texas Hill Country and time once again to spin the Wheel of 5 00:00:36,060 --> 00:00:38,970 topics. All the way to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my 6 00:00:38,970 --> 00:00:44,400 friend on the other end Mr. Mo facts. I know Adam. Mo I'm good. 7 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,290 What are we doing man? Back to Back? 8 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,090 Well, we owe two people episode for the one we skipped. And that 9 00:00:51,090 --> 00:00:54,570 makes sure we get back on the cycle because you know a Mopar 10 00:00:54,570 --> 00:00:55,890 schedule a cycle dependent. 11 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,880 Yes, we have we have cycles that need to intersect. Hey, by the 12 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,200 way, Mo in the words of Morgan Freeman, Happy Black History 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:04,620 Month. 14 00:01:06,930 --> 00:01:10,050 Capri, Happy Black future month. Where the Kanye 15 00:01:10,260 --> 00:01:13,230 Yeah. Oh, is that what he's that's what he said Happy Black 16 00:01:13,230 --> 00:01:13,920 future month. 17 00:01:14,220 --> 00:01:17,670 Well, no, he was saying we need to stop focusing on the history 18 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:19,800 more on the future. That was a 19 00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:22,890 yeah, now it's just it's it always makes me laugh black 20 00:01:22,890 --> 00:01:26,760 history month in February. The shortest month the count and 21 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:27,990 the coldest. The 22 00:01:27,989 --> 00:01:33,029 coldest. Yeah, that's true. Hey, well, I'm very excited. So I 23 00:01:33,029 --> 00:01:35,939 guess we have a is this a little shorter than normal? Will this 24 00:01:35,939 --> 00:01:38,399 be less than five hours today? Or I 25 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,400 think we should get out here before five hours. 26 00:01:43,290 --> 00:01:45,390 I always love it though. Always an education. 27 00:01:46,019 --> 00:01:51,929 Yeah. So um, he's gonna be we're going to go back over some 28 00:01:51,929 --> 00:01:54,359 themes because there's been a common theme that's been running 29 00:01:54,359 --> 00:01:59,069 through the show. And what happened to what we discussed on 30 00:01:59,069 --> 00:02:02,639 the last show and the recent events in my personal life, I 31 00:02:02,639 --> 00:02:07,559 think this show is going to be I just thought more personal show. 32 00:02:09,419 --> 00:02:09,809 So, 33 00:02:09,899 --> 00:02:17,669 okay, well, we like the personal shows. And these are always the 34 00:02:17,669 --> 00:02:21,629 most interesting to me. So let me crank it up here. Let's get 35 00:02:21,629 --> 00:02:24,449 the real topics going on. We're gonna find out what it is. 36 00:02:24,479 --> 00:02:26,969 Rhonda Rhonda goes, What's the topic for today's show? Nobody 37 00:02:26,969 --> 00:02:29,189 knows. Well, Moe does know because he put it together for 38 00:02:29,189 --> 00:02:32,129 us once again, the topic for more facts with Adam curry 39 00:02:32,129 --> 00:02:33,539 episode number 75. 40 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,330 is not to be okay. 41 00:02:37,590 --> 00:02:39,480 Okay, it's okay not to be okay. 42 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,190 It's okay not to be okay. And this is a personal show for me 43 00:02:44,190 --> 00:02:48,300 just talking about personal experience. But also doing it if 44 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:50,700 I'm going through this, it might be other people out there is 45 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:55,410 going through the same thing. And the point I mean by it's 46 00:02:55,410 --> 00:02:59,670 okay not to be okay. We're coming up on a week to the day 47 00:02:59,790 --> 00:03:03,180 when I found out I was going to be fired. And I'm going to stop 48 00:03:03,180 --> 00:03:07,560 using the word separated or parted ways with my company it 49 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:13,620 is what it is I was fired. No doing on my own other than want 50 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:19,680 to want to maintain medical autonomy. Um, now I lasted. And 51 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,000 I'll keep saying that a company I'm a capitalist. So a company 52 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,220 has the right to do or companies have the right to do what they 53 00:03:26,220 --> 00:03:30,840 want. But my issue is the coercion that went to use and it 54 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,020 took place and now you're hearing well you did it on your 55 00:03:34,020 --> 00:03:38,340 own choice you did it on your own choice. I'm the equivalent 56 00:03:38,340 --> 00:03:43,440 would be say a me to issue right if a person was to quit their 57 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,980 job because they were put in an awkward situation. And then they 58 00:03:46,980 --> 00:03:52,710 were told oh you quit on your own choice? No, this is a very 59 00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:57,870 tough situation and so just to be honest with the producers and 60 00:03:57,870 --> 00:04:06,540 the family I have been angry as hell. I have been mad um 61 00:04:07,469 --> 00:04:11,969 well this is very understandable you put theirs you said before 62 00:04:11,969 --> 00:04:16,409 you've told me how the social contract was broken and that is 63 00:04:16,439 --> 00:04:21,089 partially the the world in general but certainly the whole 64 00:04:21,089 --> 00:04:25,619 idea of a corporation in America where you start and you know 15 65 00:04:25,619 --> 00:04:28,589 years later you're basically kicked to the curb with a with a 66 00:04:28,589 --> 00:04:31,859 letter is very letter 67 00:04:31,890 --> 00:04:36,030 not even have didn't even have my name on it. That's that's 68 00:04:36,180 --> 00:04:39,030 really just have employee number 69 00:04:39,420 --> 00:04:42,480 it no it just says basically like an open I wish I had it 70 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,650 here close to me. But it was basically like you so whoever 71 00:04:46,650 --> 00:04:50,280 was whoever it making certain kind of situation. Wow. Yeah, 72 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:52,620 there was no no there was nothing personal about it. 73 00:04:53,130 --> 00:04:54,270 Completely call in 74 00:04:54,540 --> 00:04:59,190 and it did it. Did it did it and was like, you can contact HR 75 00:04:59,190 --> 00:05:03,870 too. To finalize stuff or anything like there, 76 00:05:04,110 --> 00:05:08,790 it is final. The note was the final news and the final. 77 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:11,370 But healthcare and stuff like that I 78 00:05:11,370 --> 00:05:13,680 mean that well, they said you'll be kicked off at the end of the 79 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,570 month, they gave me a week to find health care. 80 00:05:17,699 --> 00:05:21,239 Enjoy the marketplace and all the spam that Obamacare brought 81 00:05:21,239 --> 00:05:22,019 us there, brother. 82 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,470 Oh, my God. I mean, I basically had to cut my phone off. 83 00:05:26,700 --> 00:05:32,190 Messages and the calls. It's the worst. Yeah. But my issue is 84 00:05:32,190 --> 00:05:36,840 that this government, United States government, you know, 85 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:40,800 colluded with corporations. That's to get rid of the 86 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:46,950 undesirable Yep. And, you know, I didn't think this what, I am 87 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:52,230 not surprised. Just being as a black man, you figured out, 88 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:55,110 we're gonna get you some kind of way. But I didn't think it was 89 00:05:55,110 --> 00:05:57,420 gonna be this kind of way. And the reason why I know that 90 00:05:57,420 --> 00:06:02,130 sounds very unmowed like, but this what goes on in the back of 91 00:06:02,130 --> 00:06:04,860 your head, like some something's gonna get me, I've been I've 92 00:06:04,860 --> 00:06:10,110 been on a two year run. Ah, and that's kind of sad to say, but 93 00:06:10,110 --> 00:06:10,920 it is what it is. 94 00:06:13,019 --> 00:06:16,499 Now, but you clearly don't feel like you've been gotten or 95 00:06:16,499 --> 00:06:18,929 captured, because quite the opposite has happened, you've 96 00:06:19,019 --> 00:06:23,429 really, you've been able to free your mind and explore other 97 00:06:23,429 --> 00:06:24,149 things. Now. 98 00:06:24,630 --> 00:06:29,940 That's true. But what I mean by God is a stumbling block is 99 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:34,290 going to be put before you at some point. And the reason why 100 00:06:34,290 --> 00:06:36,780 I'm having this show is two things, because I'm sure there's 101 00:06:37,260 --> 00:06:39,720 people out here that's going through the same thing with less 102 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:46,980 opportunity than me. And less, you know, less clear path in 103 00:06:46,980 --> 00:06:50,340 front of them than me. So I speak for them. But also just to 104 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:55,200 go back and talk about this anger. Because the angry black 105 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,040 man is a trope, right? It's a meme. So 106 00:06:59,220 --> 00:07:03,390 you have not displayed any. Of course, I know you're, you've 107 00:07:03,390 --> 00:07:08,700 been on edge and disappointed and, and of course, angry but 108 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:11,670 you have never even you know, when we talk all the time about 109 00:07:11,670 --> 00:07:16,620 stuff, not on the show. You really haven't displayed real 110 00:07:16,620 --> 00:07:17,880 anger that I noticed. 111 00:07:19,140 --> 00:07:23,250 And that's the thing is, even to the point where you can't 112 00:07:23,250 --> 00:07:27,450 display it, not with not me personally, but there's a social 113 00:07:29,670 --> 00:07:33,150 norm. Or maybe that's not the word, but it's like an 114 00:07:33,150 --> 00:07:35,250 expectation that a black person can't be angry. 115 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,150 Because it's not a good look. 116 00:07:39,449 --> 00:07:42,899 Right? Because it feeds to the for the last show. You see what 117 00:07:42,899 --> 00:07:45,179 happened when you do some kind of anger? Do you 118 00:07:45,180 --> 00:07:49,770 feel yourself literally holding back because of that very 119 00:07:49,770 --> 00:07:52,680 reason. You self censor yourself because of that? 120 00:07:53,250 --> 00:07:55,530 Well, it's a couple of reasons. And we won't get this. This 121 00:07:55,530 --> 00:07:58,920 whole show is about this topic. Okay, good. But you know, so 122 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,550 it's a couple of things. It's not as self censoring from the 123 00:08:02,550 --> 00:08:07,050 fact that nobody wants to seem like a whiner. Nobody wants to 124 00:08:07,050 --> 00:08:10,770 seem like a complainer. Uh, whatever you throw at me, I'll 125 00:08:10,770 --> 00:08:15,900 deal with it. That's just being a free minded person that comes 126 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:21,930 with that. But also, an angry black person is seen as a, I 127 00:08:21,930 --> 00:08:24,690 would say as more of a threat than any any other person, 128 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,890 especially angry black man. Even compared to counterparts, the 129 00:08:28,890 --> 00:08:34,080 women were not allowed to show that range of emotion. Because 130 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,770 then you're crazy. You get labeled with these labels. It 131 00:08:37,770 --> 00:08:39,240 made. Maybe 132 00:08:40,529 --> 00:08:44,879 there's only one kind. I know that. Do you remember? I don't 133 00:08:44,879 --> 00:08:49,559 remember which protest. This was. This may have been back 134 00:08:49,589 --> 00:08:53,009 after Occupy Wall Street. I can't remember. But there was 135 00:08:53,009 --> 00:08:55,919 this kid and he was protesting. And he was you know, young, 136 00:08:55,949 --> 00:09:02,009 young, black, young black boy. Maybe like 1314 and his mama 137 00:09:02,009 --> 00:09:06,419 came out. And she grabbed him by his ear and dragged him off 138 00:09:06,419 --> 00:09:09,869 home. And the whole summer was a Baltimore's the whole country 139 00:09:09,869 --> 00:09:14,159 was like hell yeah. Why don't we have more of that? That was 140 00:09:14,159 --> 00:09:15,269 fantastic. 141 00:09:15,690 --> 00:09:20,070 Right? That's, that's, that will be okay. But if it would have 142 00:09:20,070 --> 00:09:23,280 been his father, ah, no big problem. It would have been 143 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,050 enough. It would be something No, no, I 144 00:09:25,050 --> 00:09:27,630 understand. I'm just pointing that out is there is there is 145 00:09:27,630 --> 00:09:32,850 this one instance, the black mother is revered in America for 146 00:09:32,850 --> 00:09:33,360 this. 147 00:09:33,870 --> 00:09:36,810 And then we'll just speak since we're on Black History Month. 148 00:09:37,140 --> 00:09:41,670 This is the difference between King and Malcolm X. The king was 149 00:09:41,670 --> 00:09:45,270 acceptable. Because he really never got angry or showed his 150 00:09:45,270 --> 00:09:45,540 anger 151 00:09:45,540 --> 00:09:48,690 and right and not Malcolm was the other way around. Yeah, he 152 00:09:48,690 --> 00:09:49,800 was saying not 153 00:09:49,830 --> 00:09:54,180 angry, but he could be perceived as angry by by the way he spoke. 154 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,030 And it's like, oh, we're gonna go the king will go at Kings 155 00:09:57,030 --> 00:10:01,230 method. We can't go with Malcolm X method. So, like I said, I 156 00:10:01,230 --> 00:10:04,080 just want to explain this. I've just just me being transparent 157 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:10,380 with people. And it's a secondary purpose to have this 158 00:10:10,380 --> 00:10:13,050 conversation. And we'll get through it as we get into it. So 159 00:10:13,050 --> 00:10:15,990 I guess we can just go ahead and jump in the first clip, and this 160 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:20,130 is Dr. Fields, explains the psychology of anger. I want to 161 00:10:20,130 --> 00:10:26,640 tell you that, I do think that anger is your default emotion. 162 00:10:27,390 --> 00:10:32,580 It's, it's what you go to, because it's the safest emotion 163 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,850 to see if if, if you go to anger, then you're less likely 164 00:10:38,850 --> 00:10:42,660 to be hurt. Because you've already started a fight, right? 165 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,350 So it's not like you went and said, Hey, listen, I really like 166 00:10:46,350 --> 00:10:50,250 you. And I want you to want me and accept me. And then if you 167 00:10:50,250 --> 00:10:54,210 get rejected, that's painful. But if you go in and say, I 168 00:10:54,210 --> 00:10:56,490 don't want you to want me because I don't like you, and 169 00:10:56,490 --> 00:10:58,770 I'm gonna yell at you and scream at you that it doesn't hurt 170 00:10:58,770 --> 00:11:01,140 because you never find out where they would have let you stay. 171 00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:06,240 Anger is a big part of it. And I do have the freakout. And that 172 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,080 happens a lot, like almost every day, but then I go through like, 173 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,260 a ton of different emotions throughout the day, sad, you 174 00:11:13,260 --> 00:11:15,960 know, all kinds of different stuff happens. That's because 175 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:23,640 anger is just the outward manifestation of hurt fear or 176 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,480 frustration. 177 00:11:25,740 --> 00:11:28,620 One of these days doesn't have to be the show. But I would love 178 00:11:28,620 --> 00:11:32,580 to know more about how Dr. Phil is viewed by black America. 179 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,090 Because you've brought him up on the show several times in the in 180 00:11:36,090 --> 00:11:40,020 the in the whole history of just wondering where he stands. 181 00:11:40,830 --> 00:11:43,980 The reason why I bring out a feeling is because he's like the 182 00:11:43,980 --> 00:11:53,100 mainstream media's doctor. So is he his takes a widely accepted. 183 00:11:53,250 --> 00:11:56,250 Okay, so so that's why I do that. It's just a All right, 184 00:11:56,250 --> 00:12:03,360 good, is a good center, center. Balanced to take on certain 185 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,350 things. Okay. So he talks about fear, frustration, and 186 00:12:07,350 --> 00:12:10,650 uncertainty, I think was the third thing he said. That is the 187 00:12:10,650 --> 00:12:16,860 thing. And it's the constant calculation of I can't seem too 188 00:12:16,860 --> 00:12:21,360 angry. I can't I couldn't stand up and have a Jerry Maguire kind 189 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:27,030 of rant. Because that will be taken differently. We remember 190 00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:27,390 the movie. 191 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,810 Well, yeah, I was gonna say yet yet. Cuba. Gooding Jr. pulled it 192 00:12:30,810 --> 00:12:32,370 off perfectly, and everybody loved it. 193 00:12:33,450 --> 00:12:38,460 Right. But that's mean, but just wait, how Jerry Maguire stood up 194 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:39,150 in the office? 195 00:12:39,630 --> 00:12:42,270 Ah, I see what you're saying. Right. Right. 196 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:47,219 That's probably gonna get you in cuffs carried out to carry out 197 00:12:47,219 --> 00:12:51,509 the building. But yeah, I mean, I have to talk about this, 198 00:12:51,509 --> 00:12:52,139 because, 199 00:12:52,260 --> 00:12:56,280 but that is also a that is a preconceived notion. I mean, you 200 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,160 say that, and I'm agreeing with it, I guess. But I don't know 201 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:04,740 that that kind of depends on the office, you know? Yes. And I am 202 00:13:04,770 --> 00:13:06,960 totally on board with you. I'm not going to fight you. But 203 00:13:06,990 --> 00:13:09,930 there are some circumstances where that would be very 204 00:13:09,930 --> 00:13:12,600 appropriate. And skin color would make any difference. 205 00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:16,560 And this is the thing. This is not exclusive. As I always say, 206 00:13:16,830 --> 00:13:20,730 it starts with us. Now what you're seeing is the anger of 207 00:13:20,790 --> 00:13:24,960 other people. Yeah, no, they're getting fed up. And one of the 208 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,730 most, I don't wanna say passive, but greenblue set of people in 209 00:13:29,730 --> 00:13:30,900 this world are Canadians. 210 00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:34,950 Oh, man, I was talking to one this morning. Yes, yes, they 211 00:13:34,950 --> 00:13:39,420 are. They're very kind people, their, their typical mode of 212 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:45,600 protesting is to grouse. They complain, right? That's all they 213 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,550 do. Usually what? Oh, yeah. 214 00:13:47,580 --> 00:13:51,180 This you see what's happening there. Now. Yeah, this is, this 215 00:13:51,180 --> 00:13:56,070 is big. When you when you push people into a corner, it's like, 216 00:13:56,070 --> 00:13:59,580 Okay, I'll take that. I'll take that. I'll take that now. When 217 00:13:59,580 --> 00:14:02,400 you when you start affecting the way that I feed my kids and my 218 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:07,110 family, and not only the way you feed them, but it affects the 219 00:14:07,110 --> 00:14:13,170 status in your home. You know, I mean, because like if you're not 220 00:14:13,170 --> 00:14:16,110 a provider, yeah, I mean, like the two main modes is like 221 00:14:16,110 --> 00:14:20,520 protector and provider. So it kind of kneecaps you on the 222 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,090 provider side of it. And then that starts to cause turmoil 223 00:14:24,090 --> 00:14:27,870 inside the home or creates an environment for turmoil and that 224 00:14:27,870 --> 00:14:30,780 kind of thing to grow. Yeah. So and that and this is where no 225 00:14:30,780 --> 00:14:34,140 man house comes in. So we got to start looking at these things 226 00:14:34,140 --> 00:14:39,660 and say, what's going on tell you tell you that it starts with 227 00:14:39,690 --> 00:14:43,920 us. But now you're starting to see the impact of the state. And 228 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,660 how was trying to leverage yourself as the de facto father? 229 00:14:48,780 --> 00:14:52,290 Yep. We'll take removing the providing portion of the Father, 230 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:55,829 right. Which is like say and then that you're sitting around 231 00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:59,789 the house all day. And then you're angry and you're stressed 232 00:14:59,789 --> 00:15:04,709 out And you're frustrated, and then that makes you even tougher 233 00:15:04,709 --> 00:15:08,129 to deal with. And then it destabilizes anymore. And it 234 00:15:08,129 --> 00:15:11,249 becomes this complete cycle. And then it's like, there's really 235 00:15:11,249 --> 00:15:17,219 nobody you can talk to, um, about your problems, because one 236 00:15:17,219 --> 00:15:21,509 of the things about I'm just gonna say about black people is 237 00:15:21,779 --> 00:15:24,629 the two sources where we do a lot of talking at the lunch 238 00:15:24,629 --> 00:15:28,919 table. And the barber shop. Yeah, which these two things 239 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:31,619 have been taken away from us. Because you can't go to work. 240 00:15:31,679 --> 00:15:35,099 One because we were work from home, a lot of us and then two 241 00:15:35,129 --> 00:15:38,579 can have one job, you don't have a job anymore period. Right? And 242 00:15:38,579 --> 00:15:41,129 then you can't go to the barbershop either. Right, 243 00:15:41,129 --> 00:15:44,309 because it's by appointment. It's one at a time due to the 244 00:15:44,489 --> 00:15:45,479 COVID rules. So 245 00:15:45,479 --> 00:15:46,799 they cut off your CNN. 246 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,290 What they cut off are your your communications line. What not 247 00:15:52,290 --> 00:15:54,690 even communication that sense, but like, that's where you get 248 00:15:54,690 --> 00:15:58,020 stuff out. Yeah, right. Right. Right. Right. Right. The gods 249 00:15:58,020 --> 00:16:01,140 kind of sit around the table. About stuff. Yeah, exactly. 250 00:16:01,140 --> 00:16:03,780 Yeah, here. Yeah. So you take those two modes away from 251 00:16:03,780 --> 00:16:08,100 people, and it's like, what do you have left? Witter, right, 252 00:16:08,310 --> 00:16:13,050 well, that pressure that causes a negative, that's a negative 253 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:17,580 course, course very negative. So what I want to get into now is 254 00:16:17,580 --> 00:16:21,150 the set of clips, and this is from the 1960s. And it's a black 255 00:16:21,150 --> 00:16:24,270 man. He's an older black man, it's gonna matter cuz I got a 256 00:16:24,270 --> 00:16:28,050 younger black man that we heard before. But I want to listen to 257 00:16:28,530 --> 00:16:32,400 the frustrations of older black man in his 60s when they try to 258 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,300 be part of America. But it ends up coming out as anger. 259 00:16:37,470 --> 00:16:40,470 I don't agree with a moderator No, Reverend Robinson, that we 260 00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:44,730 want some kind of agreement. We want to be a method by which we 261 00:16:44,730 --> 00:16:54,480 can live. You. I have spoken to you a lot of times and hatred 262 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,770 and anger, and you have not heard me. Well, you had better 263 00:16:58,770 --> 00:17:04,230 hear me today is because you consider me Vagabond leader that 264 00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:09,360 I'm not to speak here. Well, you have cut those neckties off of 265 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:13,290 them black boys that you put in our district, because they don't 266 00:17:13,290 --> 00:17:17,340 know what's happening. And I'm from the pits of nigga Hill. And 267 00:17:17,340 --> 00:17:22,890 I know what's happening. If you won't listen to me, when I make 268 00:17:22,890 --> 00:17:27,390 an appeal for the negroes, because you have no concern for 269 00:17:27,390 --> 00:17:31,260 the negros. Listen to me when I'm making an appeal of America. 270 00:17:32,460 --> 00:17:34,590 You claim you love America. 271 00:17:41,310 --> 00:17:45,030 But you are driving us back in your Megillah Samson out of us, 272 00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:47,400 and we are going to burn down the bill. 273 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,140 Wow, do you know where that was or who that was? 274 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,880 I don't know who it was. But he was speaking to council meeting. 275 00:17:57,180 --> 00:18:01,410 And he was a community leader. I was saying that. That's why I 276 00:18:01,410 --> 00:18:04,080 say you should consider me a vagabond leader. Because he 277 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,690 wasn't a part of the structure, right? You're saying and he was 278 00:18:06,690 --> 00:18:12,420 just venting? Like, no, we we love America just like everybody 279 00:18:12,420 --> 00:18:18,030 else does. But at that time, it was based off a race. But now at 280 00:18:18,030 --> 00:18:24,300 this time, we're hearing the similar sentiments at these town 281 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:27,060 hall meetings and things of that nature. So what I'm just saying 282 00:18:27,060 --> 00:18:31,470 is just showing examples of it started with us. And now we're 283 00:18:31,470 --> 00:18:36,210 seeing it happen as predicted, as predicted all over the world 284 00:18:36,210 --> 00:18:41,610 and people are being pressurized. And anger can be a 285 00:18:41,610 --> 00:18:46,830 very destructive force, if left unattended either personally or 286 00:18:46,830 --> 00:18:54,060 to society itself. And as we were saying that the reason I 287 00:18:54,060 --> 00:18:56,760 want to go back a little bit to the last show and what we talked 288 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,360 about lynching and depressurization, and, and fear 289 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:03,360 mongering, that kind of thing. And it left the door open for 290 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:06,810 the Russians to say, hey, America has problems. Yeah, 291 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,830 let's, let's explore it that let's give it gas. Let's feed 292 00:19:10,830 --> 00:19:15,420 it. That's what he's saying here. And it's not that, you 293 00:19:15,420 --> 00:19:20,940 know, people are trying to work with outside groups. And you 294 00:19:20,940 --> 00:19:24,120 know, that was the first choice is like you left me no choice. 295 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,080 Right? Is that making sense? Of course, of course. 296 00:19:28,110 --> 00:19:28,950 Of course it does. 297 00:19:29,460 --> 00:19:35,340 And so now that's why you hear people like I'm considering 298 00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:38,700 like, well, that doesn't seem like that bad of an option. If 299 00:19:38,700 --> 00:19:41,820 this is if this is the way the system is gonna go. Maybe we 300 00:19:41,820 --> 00:19:45,360 need to consider something else. And that's a very dangerous 301 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:50,850 thought to allow to linger for a country or nation. 302 00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:53,910 Absolutely. Just happening everywhere except for the UK 303 00:19:53,910 --> 00:19:59,370 where they just said screw it. Yeah, oh, everything's good. 304 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,310 So I don't like I said, I'm Portlandia out is the anger, 305 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:14,040 anger is a real emotion is, um, it is. It manifests itself in 306 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,300 different ways. You have the simmering anger. And I would say 307 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:19,620 that's where my has been at. 308 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,760 That's very, very unhealthy. To keep things in is very, very 309 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,530 unhealthy. You know that of course, 310 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,880 I do know that. But then at the same time, you had to keep up 311 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,270 with a call keep up errs. Right? You have to seem like everything 312 00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:37,380 is okay. You can't let the kids know, which is what dads do. 313 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,370 Right. And that's what kills you. Yes, 314 00:20:41,490 --> 00:20:44,550 yes, of course. Of course. That's universal. And that's 315 00:20:44,550 --> 00:20:45,600 certainly for men. 316 00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:50,850 Yes. And that's why men are saying, in general die younger 317 00:20:51,210 --> 00:20:55,260 than women. And that's why black men are the lowest on the life 318 00:20:55,260 --> 00:21:00,540 expectancy, right? Because one either, you haven't obtained 319 00:21:00,540 --> 00:21:05,130 success in America. And that makes you stew. Or you have 320 00:21:05,130 --> 00:21:09,090 attained success in America in isolation. Right? Because it 321 00:21:09,090 --> 00:21:13,830 says is a very isolating thing. I mean, you probably know I 322 00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:17,340 mean, because you're always wondering, like, Why can't let 323 00:21:17,340 --> 00:21:19,560 on it, you know, something's going on. Because yeah, 324 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,470 until I started being honest, and doing podcasts, and then it 325 00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:27,120 became really easy. I am who I am no phony, no fake. No hidden 326 00:21:27,150 --> 00:21:30,210 no trap doors, you know, that's, that's what we're has probably 327 00:21:30,210 --> 00:21:30,870 saved me. 328 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,920 And I'm glad you made that point. Because this right here, 329 00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:39,570 this coming and speaking on it, three or four hours, and then 330 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,200 you know what I do independently, that is the best 331 00:21:43,230 --> 00:21:48,360 outlet possible to kind of take the lid off the pot a little 332 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:49,920 bit. And let's I'm going to steam out. 333 00:21:50,010 --> 00:21:53,730 And now Now, especially since we know the final conclusion of 334 00:21:53,730 --> 00:21:57,120 your work situation. Now, you know, you're really free to 335 00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:57,600 speak. 336 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,710 Right? But the fact that I was left lingering, and I keep using 337 00:22:01,710 --> 00:22:07,590 this word for so long, that adds to the anger that asked to the 338 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:11,400 like, seriously, like, I mean, you wake up, I mean, cuz like, 339 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,820 Okay, I'm just gonna give people how I went through the process. 340 00:22:15,900 --> 00:22:18,450 You get the letter you like, wow, you're saying, okay, that 341 00:22:18,450 --> 00:22:22,830 happened. And then it's okay. Okay. All right. Well, this 342 00:22:22,830 --> 00:22:28,470 frees me, which it does. And it's like, oh, I didn't do 343 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:32,820 anything wrong. No, that's, that's the part like, I'm not 344 00:22:32,820 --> 00:22:36,360 gonna see if I was slacking off at work or, you know, made a 345 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:39,420 mistake or that kind of thing. You could justify or rationalize 346 00:22:39,420 --> 00:22:42,750 it, when you've done nothing except, say, you don't want to 347 00:22:42,780 --> 00:22:48,750 take part in mass mind control. No offense to anybody, you're 348 00:22:48,750 --> 00:22:52,530 saying that took it, but it's like, I don't want to do it. And 349 00:22:52,530 --> 00:22:55,320 this is where the rights thing comes in. It's the same thing. 350 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,460 It's the same feeling is like, if, if I don't comply, right, 351 00:22:59,460 --> 00:23:06,720 you can end me at any time. And like I said, this is where that 352 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,330 mechanism bleeds over to everybody. 353 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,660 Well, what know what happened with it was under the surface, 354 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:18,810 you know, it was just under surface, it's there. And then 355 00:23:18,810 --> 00:23:24,450 it's like, wow, like, you really did something to me that I had 356 00:23:24,450 --> 00:23:26,400 no, you know, no recourse. 357 00:23:26,670 --> 00:23:31,620 no control over it, right. It's very, that's hard for men. 358 00:23:32,580 --> 00:23:35,460 That's the frustrating part is like, I mean, I'm not worried 359 00:23:35,460 --> 00:23:37,590 about the future, because the future is gonna be what its 360 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:41,220 gonna be. But it's like you can come in and flipped my life 361 00:23:41,250 --> 00:23:45,600 upside down on a whim. And I don't think the rest of America 362 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,540 in the West rest of the world understood what that was like, 363 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,180 well, people who neglect the people who understand it, or the 364 00:23:51,180 --> 00:23:52,770 truckers? Yes, 365 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,140 that's what I'm saying. That people are going 366 00:23:55,140 --> 00:23:58,410 Oh, okay. I see. Yeah, they're not happy. No, they got big 367 00:23:58,410 --> 00:24:00,240 trucks. We need them. 368 00:24:01,290 --> 00:24:03,750 And that's the thing. I mean, so that's why I'm saying every, 369 00:24:03,780 --> 00:24:08,370 it's a great opportunity for empathy. Because now people can 370 00:24:08,370 --> 00:24:15,420 see the it's not that the action is the threat is the underlying 371 00:24:15,420 --> 00:24:18,960 well, when is when is the other shoe gonna drop? Right? Which, 372 00:24:18,990 --> 00:24:22,770 when when? actly right. And I'm not speaking for all black 373 00:24:22,770 --> 00:24:26,040 people, but I can speak for myself as my black experience. 374 00:24:26,910 --> 00:24:30,270 You're always waiting for the other shoe to drop, even though 375 00:24:30,270 --> 00:24:35,670 you don't say it, even though it's not communicated is when 376 00:24:35,670 --> 00:24:38,520 things are going really good. Like they were I mean, I'll just 377 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,780 look back. I mean, a year ago, I was moving into my new home. I 378 00:24:42,780 --> 00:24:45,810 had a podcast going I was gainfully employed, you know, 379 00:24:45,810 --> 00:24:48,570 everything was on the up and up. And then it's like, you know, 380 00:24:48,570 --> 00:24:53,880 what? We, we as a society, are we as they we want to switch 381 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,300 things up. Yeah, we just want to shake things up. And it's like, 382 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,460 you realize the repercussions If we don't care, you know, if you 383 00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:08,070 don't want to comply to whatever we say is right. So be it. It's 384 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:10,920 your fault. It's like it was put back on you, it's your fault 385 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,780 that you didn't comply. So what I'm saying is this doesn't have 386 00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:19,260 to really do anything with race, but what it did was tap into 387 00:25:19,260 --> 00:25:26,430 that ratio. subconsciousness there. Gotcha. So let's go ahead 388 00:25:26,430 --> 00:25:27,090 and get into this 389 00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:30,300 guy. Yeah, no, I totally I totally understand. That's 390 00:25:30,330 --> 00:25:32,070 triggering, as all hell. 391 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,120 Right? And then, but then, it's a lot going on, because it's 392 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:39,060 like, well, I can't say anything about it, because I don't want 393 00:25:39,060 --> 00:25:41,790 to seem like a complainer. And honestly, I really don't have 394 00:25:41,790 --> 00:25:45,180 anything to complain about compared to others. But then you 395 00:25:45,180 --> 00:25:47,430 go back to them in the loop again, it's like, but I didn't 396 00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:48,180 do anything. 397 00:25:48,450 --> 00:25:54,810 Yeah, it's unfair. I know, it's unjust. The minute the minute 398 00:25:54,810 --> 00:25:57,660 you say that just this unfair. It's like, oh, man, okay. Well, 399 00:25:57,660 --> 00:25:59,130 there it is. It's done. But 400 00:25:59,130 --> 00:26:02,250 then that but the natural thing is for people to say suck it up. 401 00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:05,880 Suck It Up Your man suck it up. You know, that's the that's the 402 00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:10,830 I there was a an interesting video in Ottawa and one resident 403 00:26:10,830 --> 00:26:13,590 and the residents of Ottawa, of course, flipping out because 404 00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:17,970 it's just noise and horn honking for days. And one guy is just 405 00:26:17,970 --> 00:26:20,730 flipping out, and he's yelling at the truck driver, and the 406 00:26:20,730 --> 00:26:22,890 truck drivers like, Hey, man, but we just want all the 407 00:26:22,890 --> 00:26:26,430 mandates gone. And the guy says, and this kind of shows you and 408 00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:31,140 and I understand, I can totally humanize him. He says, but 409 00:26:31,140 --> 00:26:34,980 that's just for people to go to their job, that's not a full on 410 00:26:34,980 --> 00:26:37,770 mandate you they're not jabbing it in your arm, I thought, wow, 411 00:26:37,770 --> 00:26:41,490 this guy just doesn't get it. And and, you know, there's, 412 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,330 there's a level of misunderstanding when you're not 413 00:26:45,330 --> 00:26:46,500 affected by something. 414 00:26:47,820 --> 00:26:51,990 And that's the dangerous to say, well, it was your choice. 415 00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:56,190 Exactly. It's like, what choice did you give me? No, I don't 416 00:26:56,190 --> 00:26:59,340 trust this. You know, whatever you're trying to give me 417 00:26:59,340 --> 00:27:02,100 whatever it is just fill in the blanks. I don't trust that, that 418 00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,980 path forward. And I don't want to participate in it. So it's 419 00:27:04,980 --> 00:27:09,810 like, okay, well, let me just say snatch your, your means of 420 00:27:10,410 --> 00:27:13,080 being a provider away from you and see if that gets you in 421 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,310 line. See, this is the this is the book breaking mentality of 422 00:27:17,310 --> 00:27:20,850 this vac situation. It's like, why don't you just sit on it for 423 00:27:20,850 --> 00:27:23,760 a while? Can you come back and see if you got your senses 424 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,630 together? That's it pretty much. Did Yeah. Right. And they're 425 00:27:27,630 --> 00:27:31,560 just gonna try to break you. And it's like, well, I'm not gonna 426 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,120 break cuz I'm standing on my principles. But it also opened, 427 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,790 like I said, it puts you in an awkward situation, because 428 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,360 you've destabilize a lot of man's position in their home, 429 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,270 the amount of emails I've received, particularly from New 430 00:27:45,270 --> 00:27:50,850 Zealand, and Australia, from men, who, you know, they just 431 00:27:50,850 --> 00:27:54,750 email me and they say, dude, like, I got to feed my family 432 00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:57,810 now. It's like, I'm gonna have to take this damn thing. It's 433 00:27:57,810 --> 00:28:01,050 heartbreaking. But if that's what they always say, I got to 434 00:28:01,050 --> 00:28:01,830 feed my family. 435 00:28:02,910 --> 00:28:06,990 And now we see about when we talk about, and I said, this is 436 00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:11,970 for all men, this show is, but it specifically I have to talk 437 00:28:11,970 --> 00:28:17,970 about the racial aspect of it, because there is that underlying 438 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,760 dormant ratio programming. That's just that a lot of us 439 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,060 have that this situation triggered, or you know, saying, 440 00:28:27,090 --> 00:28:28,320 or it can trigger 441 00:28:28,619 --> 00:28:33,329 windows and then throw in, for some reason, all of a sudden, at 442 00:28:33,509 --> 00:28:40,319 historically, black colleges and universities are getting bomb 443 00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:45,419 threats. Just to sprinkle some shit on top, you know, like, one 444 00:28:45,419 --> 00:28:46,199 does that thing. 445 00:28:47,070 --> 00:28:51,090 And then on top of that you factor in? Oh, well, we need a 446 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:56,250 woman, Supreme Court justice. Black one, right. So all these 447 00:28:56,250 --> 00:29:01,440 things is like, it's all feeds into it of this boogeyman 448 00:29:01,470 --> 00:29:04,170 because it might not be real. I mean, like I said, it might be 449 00:29:04,170 --> 00:29:08,460 just in our heads, but you can't fear. Fear, you're something 450 00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:12,810 that fear can make you sick. Right and in and if even if it's 451 00:29:12,810 --> 00:29:14,730 not real, doesn't mean it's not impactful. 452 00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:21,450 I was talking to a guy from Nigeria yesterday. It was funny, 453 00:29:21,450 --> 00:29:23,970 because you know, the power went out right in the middle of who 454 00:29:23,970 --> 00:29:26,940 they were. He was part of a podcast interviewing me. And he 455 00:29:26,940 --> 00:29:29,430 had his stuff on batteries. And so that's just life in Nigeria. 456 00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:33,180 And I said, So how to go in Nigeria with COVID. He said, 457 00:29:33,210 --> 00:29:37,350 Ma'am, it's like, totally like nothing. No one knows anyone who 458 00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:40,110 died and he says, we already know the government's corrupt. 459 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:43,350 He says it's not even from the anti malarial drugs. We just 460 00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:46,230 weren't afraid of shit. You got it. You know, you had it for a 461 00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:49,800 few days, and then you're better and he says, I know 500 1000 462 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,760 people. I don't know anybody who died from it. And I said, that's 463 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,750 crazy, because I know at least five princesses from Nigeria. I 464 00:29:57,750 --> 00:30:01,890 can't believe that you don't You don't know anybody who died from 465 00:30:01,890 --> 00:30:02,430 COVID. 466 00:30:03,629 --> 00:30:06,539 And that's the other thing is like that feeds into the no SIBO 467 00:30:06,539 --> 00:30:09,059 effect. And that's why I'm talking about fear. Yeah, fear 468 00:30:09,059 --> 00:30:14,189 can definitely have some definite, it can manifest things 469 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:17,429 once you start to harp on it, because I'm a firm believer that 470 00:30:17,879 --> 00:30:20,999 everything begins in the mind. Right? So when you start to 471 00:30:20,999 --> 00:30:26,579 think, and it's those, we start to think, and you you're 472 00:30:26,579 --> 00:30:31,409 thinking, thoughts that are not controlled, but it's just like 473 00:30:31,409 --> 00:30:34,739 your mind is running away with itself. That's when you get in 474 00:30:34,739 --> 00:30:38,459 some serious danger. Yep. So let's just go ahead and get to 475 00:30:38,459 --> 00:30:39,929 the second part of this here 476 00:30:39,930 --> 00:30:42,750 some more angry black man. Yes, this is this is wonderful. 477 00:30:44,730 --> 00:30:53,280 Again, I'm crazy. Because America to be saved. Rights that 478 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:58,740 goes on in this country in the city is better than Pittsburgh. 479 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:07,800 And then you think we have no right? To ask for something? Is 480 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:14,160 it too much? To ask you to grant us human dignity? Should we be 481 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,410 put down and shot to death? For this request? Info, you can aim 482 00:31:19,410 --> 00:31:26,010 your guns? What the hell do you think we care about dying? If 483 00:31:26,010 --> 00:31:28,290 you're going to deny the right to live? 484 00:31:29,250 --> 00:31:31,560 Yeah, man, you don't see you don't see stuff like that often 485 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,070 anymore? 486 00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:37,560 And that's that last line? What do we care about dying? If you 487 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,120 don't want to give us the right to lead? Right? I want everybody 488 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:47,910 to keep that in mind. When you. When I put mice, my anger is 489 00:31:47,910 --> 00:31:53,610 just coming from the audacity and the power. That someone can 490 00:31:53,610 --> 00:31:57,300 make a decision that impacts someone just because of what 491 00:31:57,300 --> 00:32:00,240 they won't do not because of what they will do, if I took 492 00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:04,710 action, or what they did do, or do or what they did do. If I had 493 00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:07,800 taken action, I was sad. They deserved it, you know, saying I 494 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,550 would have got over it. But the fact was like, wow, like so near 495 00:32:11,580 --> 00:32:15,270 me, you start to wonder, what's next? Are they going to come for 496 00:32:15,270 --> 00:32:18,300 your kids? Are they going to come for your freedom to move 497 00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:21,180 around? Or, you know, all these other things start to come? 498 00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:24,270 Because like, wow, if you took it this far, how far are you 499 00:32:24,270 --> 00:32:29,520 willing to take it? I mean, that creates a very unhealthy place 500 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,540 in your headspace headspace to be in. And now I'm being just 501 00:32:33,540 --> 00:32:36,690 completely honest, and transparent with everyone. 502 00:32:36,990 --> 00:32:41,820 Because hopefully, somebody in this same space will not feel 503 00:32:41,820 --> 00:32:43,380 alone and isolated. 504 00:32:43,619 --> 00:32:48,179 I think we all feel that way. I mean, I I'm in a different place 505 00:32:48,179 --> 00:32:52,289 than you a my life in general. But I've just turned it into my 506 00:32:52,289 --> 00:32:57,089 vocation. It's like it to deal with it. And this is this is the 507 00:32:57,089 --> 00:33:02,789 honest truth. I prefer to engross myself in the details, 508 00:33:02,999 --> 00:33:06,299 try and find figure out what the next move is, what's being done, 509 00:33:06,299 --> 00:33:11,579 why it's being done. And that that's how I process any anger 510 00:33:11,579 --> 00:33:15,629 that might crop up. I really don't have any, even though like 511 00:33:15,629 --> 00:33:18,629 you everyone has a reason to be angry. And what's next and what 512 00:33:18,629 --> 00:33:22,079 the hell if they did this? What can happen next, I'm also in 513 00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:25,469 Texas that does make I'm not in Austin, let's put it that way. 514 00:33:25,469 --> 00:33:31,109 In Austin, I was unhappy. I was very unhappy during during the 515 00:33:31,139 --> 00:33:33,359 the heavier restrictions which are still in place, you know, 516 00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:36,239 they're trying to keep them in place in Austin. So that's 517 00:33:36,239 --> 00:33:39,119 understood. And everyone finds a way to deal with it. I'm 518 00:33:39,149 --> 00:33:39,929 unfortunate. 519 00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:44,760 And wouldn't the real issue is it's not about the money. It's 520 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,850 not about any because money can be made. I mean, this is this is 521 00:33:47,850 --> 00:33:50,790 a world where money just moves around. If you're saying you 522 00:33:50,790 --> 00:33:54,060 have a plan, you can get money. So it's not about that. It's 523 00:33:54,060 --> 00:34:00,660 about the power that you know, a group of people have over your 524 00:34:00,660 --> 00:34:05,100 personal freedoms. That's where the rubber meets the road. And 525 00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:10,140 then the deepest, the destabilizing effect it has, and 526 00:34:10,170 --> 00:34:14,910 just the callous way it was done. Um, no. How do you just 527 00:34:14,910 --> 00:34:20,430 throw people away and say, Well, when you get your mind, right, 528 00:34:20,970 --> 00:34:24,300 we'll have a spot for you. You know, when you learn to know 529 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:27,780 your place, and you come to a spot from when you come here, 530 00:34:27,810 --> 00:34:31,170 right? That's exactly right. And this is where we've been saying 531 00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:34,620 this for a long time about men and dresses, specifically black 532 00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:39,090 men and dresses in Hollywood. He's like, this is this is what 533 00:34:39,090 --> 00:34:43,320 you put on the dress moment. This is David Shapiro. Right, 534 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,040 right. He's the dress. Come on, Dave, you know, saying it's 535 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,430 funny. Yeah, you know, that kind of thing. Like, come on. It's 536 00:34:50,430 --> 00:34:53,580 just a needle. Just a little prick. It's a little. 537 00:34:54,210 --> 00:34:57,570 It's crazy. It's crazy. Right? So 538 00:34:57,630 --> 00:35:01,350 when you do that, you're gonna trigger Some of the ratio 539 00:35:01,350 --> 00:35:04,710 programming because I'm not immune to it, I mean, I deal 540 00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:07,920 with it probably better than most. But I'm not immune to any 541 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,450 kind of was just another one 542 00:35:09,450 --> 00:35:12,330 of those things they didn't really take into consideration. 543 00:35:13,019 --> 00:35:15,719 Right so that now you're starting to see why. 544 00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:19,110 Especially from from the party that's in charge that loves 545 00:35:19,110 --> 00:35:20,190 black people Mo. 546 00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:24,840 Well, now we're seeing at least out of them. They love you, as 547 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,440 long as you're doing what they asked you to do. When you don't, 548 00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:32,670 that's when we get to see the real true colors come out. Yeah, 549 00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:35,280 it's like, well, don't let them move around. Don't let me Don't 550 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,680 let him go to grocery stores. Don't let them you know, 551 00:35:37,709 --> 00:35:41,909 maybe Canada and Canada, literally, you're in the grocery 552 00:35:41,909 --> 00:35:45,659 store. If you're unpacked, you can only go into the produce 553 00:35:45,659 --> 00:35:51,329 aisle and get food you can't get by, you know, a shovel, or a hat 554 00:35:51,389 --> 00:35:54,899 or underwear. You they they chaperone, you make sure you 555 00:35:54,899 --> 00:35:56,099 don't go there. 556 00:35:57,090 --> 00:36:02,190 Now tell me if that's that that's a ritual of humiliation? 557 00:36:02,220 --> 00:36:03,180 Sure is. 558 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:07,020 It's not a function because you mean, the Cuf can't be on it 559 00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:11,730 out. I mean, what are you saying this is? It's Yeah, exactly. And 560 00:36:11,730 --> 00:36:15,420 when you start to humiliate somebody, it's like, oh, okay, 561 00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:18,840 this is personal. But this is this. I mean, you could take I 562 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,630 mean, they might not mean it this person. But it's gonna be 563 00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:24,780 taking this person who's like, why would you do that? They say 564 00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:28,800 you can't go by, you know, certain goods. If you're not, 565 00:36:28,860 --> 00:36:33,510 you're saying vaccines punitive is obvious, right? And it's 566 00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:36,150 petty. And those are the things like I said, those are the 567 00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:39,240 things that make people start to lose their mind, right? Yep. 568 00:36:39,450 --> 00:36:44,730 Right. And now I have to do this. Because with that anger, 569 00:36:44,730 --> 00:36:48,300 if you don't do something with it, it will destroy you. So now 570 00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:52,410 I want to get into getting some therapy, and this is clip to a 571 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,310 Hi, I'm purpose Taylor, and you're tuned into black man, did 572 00:36:56,310 --> 00:37:00,450 you some therapy. Today's topic is anger. Anger at his core is a 573 00:37:00,450 --> 00:37:04,260 secondary emotion, the primary emotion is hurt. Underneath the 574 00:37:04,260 --> 00:37:07,410 hurt is disappointment. And underneath the disappointment is 575 00:37:07,410 --> 00:37:11,070 an expectation that hasn't been met. Unfortunately, when we look 576 00:37:11,070 --> 00:37:14,940 at anger, anger feels like a much more powerful emotion that 577 00:37:14,940 --> 00:37:18,360 we can display and is okay for us to display and acknowledge 578 00:37:18,510 --> 00:37:21,480 the key word to acknowledge in anger is just that, 579 00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:24,270 acknowledging it, in order for one to acknowledge something 580 00:37:24,270 --> 00:37:27,000 they must be honest with themselves. A lot of times we 581 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,120 try to present anger as if it's something that doesn't exist, or 582 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,240 we'd like to bury it. The road of anger can manifest itself 583 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:37,800 depends and varies, right sometimes for us as men, anger 584 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,950 shows up in two ways in an internal way, and also an 585 00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:45,450 external way. The way in which we internalize anger may show up 586 00:37:45,450 --> 00:37:49,110 in some of our own self destructive behaviors. Sometimes 587 00:37:49,110 --> 00:37:52,530 we hurt ourselves physically, through self harm, self 588 00:37:52,530 --> 00:37:56,370 injurious behaviors, substance use and substance abuse. And 589 00:37:56,370 --> 00:37:59,550 some of the ways in which we externalize anger can be in the 590 00:37:59,550 --> 00:38:03,720 ways in which we treat the ones we love, or just strangers. 591 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,950 Sometimes it can show up in the form of our own patients, how we 592 00:38:07,950 --> 00:38:11,580 talk to folks, our tonality, sometimes even just our facial 593 00:38:11,580 --> 00:38:15,570 expressions, always tell people that being angry is not what 594 00:38:15,570 --> 00:38:18,630 usually gets us in trouble. It's how we manage our anger. 595 00:38:19,710 --> 00:38:24,000 Well, this is interesting. I'm a big fan of therapy. I started I 596 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,970 did some therapy after my second marriage like okay, let me just 597 00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:31,290 check a few things here. I think men in general are getting more 598 00:38:31,290 --> 00:38:34,320 used to the idea of this guy have a podcast as a YouTube or 599 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,370 where's he doing this? This 600 00:38:35,370 --> 00:38:38,550 is actual podcast called brother get your black man get you some 601 00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:39,030 therapy and 602 00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:42,300 he needs to get him some sound advice, which I'd be happy to 603 00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:44,730 help him with. Because I like it. 604 00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:48,870 It was terrible quality. But yeah, it was important message. 605 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,400 But it's lost due to the quality. 606 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,500 Not lost. But you know, you get my point there, but I'm for 607 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:58,110 this. Is there a stigma on this in with black men? 608 00:38:58,830 --> 00:39:04,770 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Not stigma in this. The stigma is going to 609 00:39:04,770 --> 00:39:08,070 lay on somebody's couch. Yeah, and that don't poke around in 610 00:39:08,070 --> 00:39:08,580 your brain. 611 00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:14,970 That's that's that's not exactly how it works. No. Perception 612 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:15,420 Yes. I 613 00:39:15,419 --> 00:39:17,969 got your perception of the stick that's this thing Yeah, I got 614 00:39:17,969 --> 00:39:21,059 now like I said before going to talk to your friends at the 615 00:39:21,059 --> 00:39:24,659 lunch table. Or the barber shop you know barber shop or your 616 00:39:24,659 --> 00:39:25,319 barber you 617 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,410 get some older guy who's there and can say some wise shit. 618 00:39:28,830 --> 00:39:33,450 Exactly. In church. That was the other thing. Cut off make sure 619 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,110 you cut that off. They cut the church off they cut the barber 620 00:39:37,110 --> 00:39:38,760 shop off and then they cut the job off. 621 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,720 And the next day just cut your dick off. 622 00:39:43,230 --> 00:39:46,740 Is it isn't it? Well, that I mean, we know stress and notes 623 00:39:46,740 --> 00:39:48,030 kind of thing and had to fix on that. 624 00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:51,960 Literally, something you want to talk about mode when 625 00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:57,870 I'm saying is that's that's the last thing you have left and 626 00:39:57,870 --> 00:40:03,840 then stress can even impact that. So made up. Yeah. So my 627 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:09,510 point is this is this by design, I may have to ask this question, 628 00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:14,670 you know? Are they trying to pressurize people for a reason 629 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,970 to get a reaction because the way I'm looking at this timeline 630 00:40:17,970 --> 00:40:23,220 is February now. Okay, so people will probably have 234 months to 631 00:40:23,220 --> 00:40:26,220 savings right? You burn through your savings Now here we're at 632 00:40:26,220 --> 00:40:30,300 summer we're at summer it gets hot people get a little crazier 633 00:40:30,750 --> 00:40:33,150 people can go outside I mean people are not really going 634 00:40:33,150 --> 00:40:36,480 outside now because it's 20 degrees you know saying but when 635 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,740 it starts to get hot and your money gets low are we going to 636 00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:46,140 start seeing some things pop off in cities? Where there's just 637 00:40:46,140 --> 00:40:48,360 somebody pissed at somebody you're saying just pissed in 638 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,420 general and they pop off or things like we 639 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,120 think that's our that's already happened mo This is already 640 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,380 happening. This is already happening this is I see the 641 00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:03,720 reports like Portland Oregon one night and like nine shootings 642 00:41:04,530 --> 00:41:08,880 with with with deadly consequences what you know, we 643 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,740 don't need it's interesting. So okay, so first of all my my view 644 00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:16,500 yes, this is intentional. It's all intentional. This is the 645 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:19,890 great reset I take these idiots at their word, but when they say 646 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,460 they're going to do a some kind of reset that you got to break 647 00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:27,030 shit to reset it that's that's just I think that's what what we 648 00:41:27,060 --> 00:41:30,570 what is happening. And it's part of the financial markets. 649 00:41:31,230 --> 00:41:36,510 There's a lot of the wire type stuff going on with every real 650 00:41:36,510 --> 00:41:40,020 estate is the solution to everything. You know, so you see 651 00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:42,750 neighborhoods destroyed neighborhoods burned now all of 652 00:41:42,750 --> 00:41:46,230 a sudden, developers go in it's happening everywhere. I see it. 653 00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:48,750 I'm not stupid. The Wire open my eyes. Really? 654 00:41:48,930 --> 00:41:54,210 The demolition is damn okay. It's the Controlled Demolition 655 00:41:54,210 --> 00:41:59,310 through people. Yes, it's free. It's free. It's like it's free 656 00:41:59,310 --> 00:42:01,650 demolition. It's like, let's just make a man there, burn it 657 00:42:01,650 --> 00:42:04,320 up. And then we'll come back and build it. Build it Back up. 658 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:10,680 So and well, I saw literally saw the United Nations Secretary 659 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:16,470 General gortat us. He had a tweet. And the tweet said, you 660 00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:20,970 know, here's the priorities for the world. Basically, I won. 661 00:42:21,780 --> 00:42:31,080 Defeat COVID-19 To change the financial system. What that's 662 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,250 what we're dealing with. So something very big is going on. 663 00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:41,100 And yeah, I don't know if that was what was the first part of 664 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:45,450 your question? Or what you were really asking if this is on 665 00:42:45,450 --> 00:42:48,720 purpose? Yeah, so I think you're right it's 666 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,960 that's what's happening to everybody might see 19 Again, I 667 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,430 mean, we talked about the racial right? 668 00:42:53,460 --> 00:42:57,750 Yes. Yes. I love that the racial riots of night I brought it up 669 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:03,030 on no agenda Dvorak just he went holy crap. Dense. Jago is primed 670 00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:03,570 for that. 671 00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:08,160 And when it starts to get hot people's money start to get low 672 00:43:08,190 --> 00:43:12,030 add some Chem trails, right and it not only that, then you add 673 00:43:12,030 --> 00:43:15,930 some Okay, now we can really go out and protest because it's 674 00:43:15,930 --> 00:43:18,300 warm, it's hot. You're gonna start I think you're gonna start 675 00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:19,380 seeing more 676 00:43:20,340 --> 00:43:21,120 loitering. 677 00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:26,430 But manda him saying you want to see more pushback against the 678 00:43:26,430 --> 00:43:30,150 mandates, the one in DC was large for years. And for 679 00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:32,760 something of that, you know, just what it was. When it gets 680 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,330 hotter, you're gonna start seeing more people come outside. 681 00:43:37,170 --> 00:43:42,330 Um, and this man did OSHA mandate is not demanding issue. 682 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,990 That's not the case. But the government did that, like I 683 00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:52,230 said, incur in collusion, to coerce people. And it gave a tip 684 00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:55,680 to the hat to the corporation that go ahead, we won't get in 685 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,400 your way. And that's where the RIP for me that's where the real 686 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,590 anger comes in it because I thought the government works for 687 00:44:01,590 --> 00:44:07,050 me. Theory and theory. Yeah, of course. I mean, that's the 688 00:44:07,050 --> 00:44:10,290 that's the, that's that underlying thing I'm talking 689 00:44:10,290 --> 00:44:13,950 about. It's like, yeah, we say that when there's like, not a 690 00:44:13,950 --> 00:44:16,950 government on workforce, but now it's being proven. So it's like, 691 00:44:16,980 --> 00:44:21,270 oh, wow, I was right, all along, right. So I guess we can go 692 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:22,770 ahead and get into part two of this clip. 693 00:44:23,279 --> 00:44:26,099 A lot of times when people usually get to that point, they 694 00:44:26,099 --> 00:44:29,879 usually explode. And it causes them to act, or do things that 695 00:44:29,879 --> 00:44:33,239 they later regret. The point in peaceful black men is that we 696 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,899 have a lot of Justified Anger given the issues that are going 697 00:44:36,899 --> 00:44:39,869 on, but we don't want to hold on to it. And we don't want to 698 00:44:39,869 --> 00:44:43,589 allow it to manifest in a way that's detrimental to ourselves 699 00:44:43,859 --> 00:44:46,889 and the ones we love. We must understand that anger can be 700 00:44:46,889 --> 00:44:50,639 destructive or constructive. When it's destructive. We harm 701 00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:53,579 ourselves and we harm others. When it's constructive, which is 702 00:44:53,579 --> 00:44:56,009 known as righteous indignation. It can lead to change and 703 00:44:56,009 --> 00:44:59,309 transformation. It's not about eliminating anger. It's about 704 00:44:59,309 --> 00:45:03,119 eliminating the destructive nature of anger. We're emotional 705 00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:06,839 beings, anger, earmarks our human experience. And in some 706 00:45:06,839 --> 00:45:12,119 cases, it can be used for good. For example, Rosa Parks in her 707 00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:15,209 anger didn't give up her seat. And that led to change and 708 00:45:15,209 --> 00:45:17,849 transformation and reformation for us as black people. 709 00:45:18,210 --> 00:45:22,050 Yeah, I like this guy. And and I will say just thinking about how 710 00:45:22,050 --> 00:45:24,480 you answer my question that yeah, there's there's a stigma 711 00:45:24,510 --> 00:45:28,140 someone rooting around in your mind. You can also say that is 712 00:45:28,140 --> 00:45:31,080 ignorance, you know, learn about what therapy is and how it can 713 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,430 help you and a podcast like this is obviously encouraging. 714 00:45:36,270 --> 00:45:39,630 Right, but I'll say there's two things I want us one I want to 715 00:45:39,630 --> 00:45:45,570 point out the Rosa Park thing. It Rosa was Ron parks. Yeah. 716 00:45:46,860 --> 00:45:51,300 Yeah. You see, I'm saying like that is even then. It was we of 717 00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:55,230 course, we know Rosa Parks was, you know, was it was some staged 718 00:45:55,260 --> 00:45:56,130 something. Yeah, 719 00:45:56,130 --> 00:46:00,000 we know she was she it came two weeks after for the PR after 720 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,320 a huge hurt with Hugo black and saying was backing her. But 721 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,780 whatever you're saying, if that would have been Ron Parkes 722 00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:09,240 instead of Rosen, yeah, that would have had different 723 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:11,640 different story outcome. Right. So 724 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,090 now we have to have this constant calculation in your 725 00:46:15,090 --> 00:46:18,900 head is like, what's the acceptable level of anger? So 726 00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:24,030 what happens is, okay, you press it down, press it down, press it 727 00:46:24,030 --> 00:46:28,560 down, press it down, and then we explode them. Everybody's like, 728 00:46:28,590 --> 00:46:34,080 Oh, where'd that come from? He's crazy. And it's like, no, I just 729 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:39,360 been eating shit for a long time. And taking it. And, and, 730 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,300 man in general, if this today's society is expect to suck it up, 731 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,470 take it, suck it up, you know, if you saw exhibit any kind of 732 00:46:49,470 --> 00:46:52,230 behavior that was like, aggressive, that's toxic 733 00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:55,500 masculinity, you know, that kind of thing. So, yeah, we have this 734 00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:59,340 powder keg of being pushed down. And even toxic masculinity. 735 00:46:59,670 --> 00:47:04,620 That's always been the case for black men. Because like I said, 736 00:47:04,650 --> 00:47:07,470 all all black male anger is toxic, because what you're 737 00:47:07,470 --> 00:47:08,910 saying is perceived. 738 00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:12,300 Right? And then our counterparts, the women is kind 739 00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:15,870 of celebrated that they can be angry. Yeah, you go. Right. 740 00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:18,450 Right. Exactly. When you have somebody go, I mean, 741 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:24,180 corporations actually look for that trait. Because they can 742 00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:27,510 weaponize it, you know, for their business to go in there be 743 00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:28,800 a Firestarter, you know? 744 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,630 Oh, but no, that's the quintessential you know, our Oh, 745 00:47:33,630 --> 00:47:36,660 no, you didn't you know, that's, that's cultural. Now, that's 746 00:47:36,660 --> 00:47:40,020 cultural across all racial lines has just which is alright, 747 00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:41,400 respect for that woman. 748 00:47:41,820 --> 00:47:45,030 Correct. And you see, like, I mean, because all all the time 749 00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:52,890 whenever there's a DMV scene, or a black woman playing that role, 750 00:47:53,340 --> 00:47:56,550 to say what you're saying, yeah, it's even baked into the 751 00:47:56,610 --> 00:48:02,070 archetype. Okay, for them to have that kind of outbursts book 752 00:48:02,070 --> 00:48:05,580 for me. And it's like, even when you raise your voice, and I've 753 00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:08,490 mentioned this before on the show, even when I will be at 754 00:48:08,490 --> 00:48:11,760 work when I'm still physically there in office. And I'll be mid 755 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,950 thought, and like you get a scowl on your face when you're 756 00:48:13,950 --> 00:48:17,640 menthol. People come by See, you're right. You're really 757 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,100 okay. Really. So you have to be 758 00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:25,230 conscious, even a passive deep bass programming man is heavy on 759 00:48:25,230 --> 00:48:27,150 all sides on all sides. 760 00:48:27,630 --> 00:48:32,520 It's not it's not just American. I'm talking about people that 761 00:48:32,610 --> 00:48:35,700 are all over the world. Sure. That will come to you. Okay. 762 00:48:35,850 --> 00:48:36,870 You're everything all right. 763 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,290 Oh, man. Whoa, most got that. koonta Kintyre look, again, 764 00:48:40,290 --> 00:48:43,110 everybody. Okay, back up. Right. 765 00:48:47,820 --> 00:48:53,220 Right. So, but that's, that's a real fear. And I don't want to 766 00:48:53,220 --> 00:48:54,600 belabor the point, but now, 767 00:48:54,660 --> 00:48:57,360 it just sucks to hear this is horrible. 768 00:48:57,810 --> 00:49:02,430 And just to speak on therapy. My not my mom. She's saying she's a 769 00:49:02,460 --> 00:49:06,360 she's a licensed therapist, you know, saying like, so. therapy 770 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,960 has been, you know, talking about paid into the family. 771 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,190 Yeah. Right. But when I met her have this debate, going back and 772 00:49:14,190 --> 00:49:19,470 forth is, I think the way we do therapy in this country. For 773 00:49:19,470 --> 00:49:21,300 poor middle class people is broken, 774 00:49:21,390 --> 00:49:25,620 though I'm sure it is, is without a doubt, I'm sure it is 775 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,660 without even knowing enough about it. 776 00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:32,250 So because we have somebody come in and say, Alright, we got 15 777 00:49:32,250 --> 00:49:35,940 minutes. Let me tap into your brain and give you some drugs 778 00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:39,990 and we'll fix it. We're not even drugs but surface that issue and 779 00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:42,930 then they look at their watch my up, your time is up, you know, 780 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,720 let's just leave it right and put a pin in it right there. And 781 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:49,800 we'll see you next week. Now Hello. You can't bury that stuff 782 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,610 back. Now. I'm going out to my life for another six days. 783 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,840 Before I come back here to therapy again. And you've an 784 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:04,050 open are you on earth this whatever the issue is, and now I 785 00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:06,840 have to take this back into my real world. I think that's a 786 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,360 very broken system. Um, 787 00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:12,149 and that's, that's not just for poor people, that is the rich 788 00:50:12,149 --> 00:50:15,659 people version also. But the rich people version usually 789 00:50:15,659 --> 00:50:19,319 includes group therapy, which are very interesting activities, 790 00:50:19,319 --> 00:50:22,589 I've participated in a few. And that's where you really get to 791 00:50:22,589 --> 00:50:26,789 expand a lot more and go a lot deeper in, believe it or not a 792 00:50:26,789 --> 00:50:30,659 safe space. But the typical therapy sessions, that's kind of 793 00:50:30,659 --> 00:50:31,889 how it goes for everybody. 794 00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:35,309 Except for the first you can't pay for more, I guess that you 795 00:50:35,309 --> 00:50:37,199 can get group sessions, you know? Yeah, 796 00:50:38,009 --> 00:50:40,889 you're absolutely right. I'm just saying that the basic 797 00:50:40,889 --> 00:50:43,559 therapy session is your 15 minutes looking at the watch, 798 00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:46,379 sorry, you got to go. That's kind of the same. But then, of 799 00:50:46,379 --> 00:50:49,529 course, if you have money, then you can expand as much as you 800 00:50:49,529 --> 00:50:50,729 want. Right. But 801 00:50:50,730 --> 00:50:53,400 if you're on the insurance plan, you know, you're screwed, you're 802 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,860 screwed, you're screwed. And he's like, You come home, and 803 00:50:55,860 --> 00:50:58,710 like everybody listening, and I'm, I gotta be transparent 804 00:50:58,710 --> 00:51:04,470 again. I've never went to therapy before. Ah, don't expect 805 00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:08,700 it out. We'll go to therapy. That's just me. And I can say, 806 00:51:08,730 --> 00:51:12,750 that might be a stigma, it might be a stereotype or whatever. But 807 00:51:12,750 --> 00:51:15,090 I just don't want somebody poking around in my head. 808 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,910 Because that's an that may, I guess, that my mom is a third. 809 00:51:18,090 --> 00:51:24,090 So that is a very probably ignorant take on it. But it's 810 00:51:24,090 --> 00:51:30,450 very, I'll say a couple of masculinity. You always want to 811 00:51:30,450 --> 00:51:32,820 seem like you're in control of things. Even if you're not. 812 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,660 There's just like the trope and meme of are we lost? And your 813 00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:41,460 dad's like driving? Now, we're not lost? What's your losses? 814 00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:44,520 Hail, right. But it's like, I can't let the wife and kids know 815 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,610 I'm lost. You know, because I'm the Navigator. I'm the guy 816 00:51:47,610 --> 00:51:49,050 behind the wheel, you know? 817 00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:55,290 Well, so a lot of these things were discussing. To me also 818 00:51:55,290 --> 00:51:58,410 shows and of course, this is also being destroyed is how the 819 00:51:58,410 --> 00:52:03,900 male female model when it when it's in harmony together work so 820 00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:08,670 incredibly well. Because yes, Rosa Parks, if it was Ron parks 821 00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:11,700 would have been a different story. But if it was Ron parks, 822 00:52:11,730 --> 00:52:16,260 and he was 80 years old, it might have been yet a different 823 00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:18,750 story. You know, so there's, there's all these different 824 00:52:18,930 --> 00:52:23,340 types of things that are that our individual and our 825 00:52:23,340 --> 00:52:27,750 sexuality, just have on a social scale, when you work together, 826 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,280 is really good. So that's just that's just my take on it. And 827 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,780 quite honestly, I suck at directions. And I've just given 828 00:52:36,780 --> 00:52:40,590 that to my wife. Like, I'm just gonna turn the navigator voice 829 00:52:40,590 --> 00:52:43,350 off because I like yours much more. And you tap on the window 830 00:52:43,350 --> 00:52:45,930 a little bit to let me know which way to go, which is always 831 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:46,800 fun. 832 00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:49,650 And it's funny you say that because that was kind of like 833 00:52:49,650 --> 00:52:52,830 the mom was in the passenger seat with the map. Yeah, she's 834 00:52:52,830 --> 00:52:56,100 like, I don't think we're gonna, you know, so, but I'm just 835 00:52:56,100 --> 00:53:00,120 saying like the stopping asking for directions. Oh, fuck, 836 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,040 no, not gonna do that. I'm a man Damn it. 837 00:53:02,820 --> 00:53:03,990 Exactly, I'll figure it out. 838 00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:10,410 I'll pull over, pull over, bring out the sextant before I ask for 839 00:53:10,410 --> 00:53:11,070 directions. 840 00:53:11,790 --> 00:53:14,970 Or I'll run out of gas. And at least that gives me an excuse to 841 00:53:14,970 --> 00:53:15,990 go to the gas station. 842 00:53:20,370 --> 00:53:20,790 Right, 843 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,440 so, but it's a speech about this, they say it's very 844 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:31,800 destabilizing the effects on masculinity and that need to 845 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,120 hold on to the masculine, it just makes the situation worse. 846 00:53:36,750 --> 00:53:40,830 I would say um, so I guess we stopped me to be that's going 847 00:53:40,830 --> 00:53:41,550 into to see. 848 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,570 Interesting enough. I'm not a big fan of the notion of getting 849 00:53:45,570 --> 00:53:49,200 rid of anger. When we talk about eliminating anger. Anger is 850 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,630 something that can't be eliminated. But it's anger is 851 00:53:51,630 --> 00:53:54,960 something that can be managed and controlled. We actually have 852 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,670 to develop a vocabulary around other emotions. Besides just 853 00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:03,630 anger and sadness. We need to be able to identify when we feel 854 00:54:03,630 --> 00:54:06,300 helpless. When we feel frustrated when we feel 855 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:10,410 disgusted. When we feel shame, the way we manage anger is to 856 00:54:10,410 --> 00:54:13,260 acknowledge that we're angry. But beyond that, we need to know 857 00:54:13,260 --> 00:54:16,140 what our triggers are. Knowing what our triggers are, helps us 858 00:54:16,140 --> 00:54:19,350 to respond accordingly. This is why I tell black men that it's 859 00:54:19,350 --> 00:54:22,020 so important to be introspective. It's important 860 00:54:22,020 --> 00:54:24,420 that we be able to sit with ourselves and examine ourselves 861 00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:27,360 and ask ourselves out of curiosity, why we show up in 862 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,170 certain ways. After that, it's important that we learn to take 863 00:54:31,170 --> 00:54:34,380 a pause or pause is good because it allows us to collect our 864 00:54:34,380 --> 00:54:38,040 thoughts and think of possible ways to remedy the disagreement. 865 00:54:38,190 --> 00:54:41,490 Black men. It's okay. Not to be okay. 866 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,300 And that's the that's the point where this show comes in in 867 00:54:49,410 --> 00:54:53,430 doing this show the process of it. It provides time for 868 00:54:53,460 --> 00:54:58,110 introspection. It occupies the mind because I wouldn't know 869 00:54:58,110 --> 00:55:02,640 what I would be doing if I Have something to do in this 870 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:08,460 situation went down. Uh, you will have a lot more time to 871 00:55:11,610 --> 00:55:15,900 just like for it to fester. You know, it's just like, ah, you 872 00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:19,050 know, saying you, you just like harp on it. So that's what the 873 00:55:19,050 --> 00:55:25,710 good part of this show and then the good is good too. It's like 874 00:55:25,710 --> 00:55:28,440 they say there's good anger, or there's good way to channel 875 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,250 anger. But I think a lot of times people don't know how to 876 00:55:32,250 --> 00:55:42,300 do that. That's that's very untaught skill. Sure, either 877 00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:47,640 either we pack it now, or we, or we outbursts. And now those are 878 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,720 the two mechanisms for dealing with anger. Now I will say this 879 00:55:51,870 --> 00:55:55,110 two points I made was frustration and shame. Once 880 00:55:55,110 --> 00:55:58,560 again, I had to be very transparent. A lot of my anger 881 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:08,400 comes from frustration, of being less than, well, that images at 882 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,120 this point in life being 41 years old, you kind of had your 883 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,030 map set, right? The kind of thing in front of you is like, 884 00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:18,270 Okay, I'm gonna do this for the next 1020 years, I'm going to do 885 00:56:18,270 --> 00:56:22,020 this, the kids are gonna be here, once they get grown, and 886 00:56:22,020 --> 00:56:24,960 we'll do you know, you're setting up for that. The middle 887 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,950 game like these, this is the middle game, right? And to come 888 00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:30,240 in, and just the mind isn't 889 00:56:30,420 --> 00:56:36,360 Yes, shitty time in life to be confronted with it. 890 00:56:37,110 --> 00:56:40,440 Right? Because you got to maintain what you got. Because 891 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,470 that's where the shame comes in it because I can't lose my 892 00:56:43,470 --> 00:56:46,620 house. And this is this is the goal to speak to the guys that 893 00:56:46,770 --> 00:56:51,000 wrote you letters. By it's the shame part of it's like, either 894 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,550 one, they probably get their identity from their work. 895 00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:56,040 Because like people who are like, Well, I'm an engineer, I'm 896 00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,030 a doctor, I'm a you know, that's they speak their vocation. Some 897 00:57:00,030 --> 00:57:03,390 people, their vocation is their identity. So if you separate 898 00:57:03,390 --> 00:57:05,610 them from that, it's like, who am I? You know, that's the 899 00:57:05,610 --> 00:57:08,340 question you have to ask yourself, like, who am I, then 900 00:57:08,340 --> 00:57:13,740 the shame of just being out of work? For me, it's family 901 00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:19,830 members I haven't even told yet. Because, once again, you want to 902 00:57:19,830 --> 00:57:25,650 go back to having everything under control. So the shame part 903 00:57:25,650 --> 00:57:28,200 of it. And we talked about sign language, right? It's a shame 904 00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:32,310 and so guilt need to be right. Shame is a part big part of it. 905 00:57:32,310 --> 00:57:34,860 And it's like, if I can avoid this shaming feeling, but then 906 00:57:34,860 --> 00:57:39,150 you feel shame because you lied about it. So it's either like, 907 00:57:39,150 --> 00:57:42,600 Damn, I can't get away from this. So yeah, shame and 908 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,850 frustration for me the two biggest things so 909 00:57:45,180 --> 00:57:48,660 just just for me to you, I mean, you got nothing but shit to be 910 00:57:48,660 --> 00:57:52,230 proud of man. Your chance here? 911 00:57:52,800 --> 00:58:00,420 That's the thing like is being an entrepreneur in itself, and 912 00:58:00,420 --> 00:58:09,180 working for yourself. There's a light there's a certain stigma 913 00:58:09,180 --> 00:58:14,040 that comes along with that. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay, because 914 00:58:14,070 --> 00:58:18,990 it's, it's like you eat what you kill kind of thing. Yeah. And, 915 00:58:19,050 --> 00:58:22,080 and people that are working. And I can speak for that. I mean, 916 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,830 I've been working class for years, all my life. It's like, 917 00:58:25,830 --> 00:58:28,320 well, there's a certain uncertainty that comes along 918 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,490 with that. Destiny especially Yes, especially if, but that's 919 00:58:32,490 --> 00:58:35,280 seen as a negative. Because people have this for people 920 00:58:35,940 --> 00:58:39,240 who aren't entrepreneurs. That is the one reason why they 921 00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:42,030 aren't entrepreneurs. That's exactly right. Because they 922 00:58:42,030 --> 00:58:43,650 don't like that feeling. 923 00:58:44,730 --> 00:58:49,620 But when you switch lanes made life, if you came into the game 924 00:58:49,620 --> 00:58:52,440 entrepreneur, that's one thing. It's like, okay, that's that's 925 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,830 him. But if anybody if somebody came to you and say, Well, you 926 00:58:55,830 --> 00:58:59,160 know, I quit my job to start a restaurant, the first thing and 927 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:04,650 back of a worker person in my life. That's pretty crazy. If it 928 00:59:04,650 --> 00:59:06,930 was, even though it's not crazy, the person thought out, they 929 00:59:06,930 --> 00:59:08,730 were saying that they're planning that kind of thing was 930 00:59:08,730 --> 00:59:13,650 like, you got a good job here. You sure you want to do that 931 00:59:13,650 --> 00:59:15,750 when you fail? These are the questions you start to get. 932 00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:21,840 Well that I did go through that. Specifically, when I dropped out 933 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,560 of college, my parents gave me one month, said you're in this 934 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,040 house for one month, and either you are back in school, or 935 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:34,200 you're paying rent or you're out. And that motivated me and 936 00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:39,240 then I I got a job in television. Crazy, but that's 937 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,960 how things go sometimes. And even though that was like the 938 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,830 most mind blowing thing that could happen to anybody. Most 939 00:59:46,830 --> 00:59:49,860 people around me were like, wow, be careful. You know, you know, 940 00:59:49,860 --> 00:59:52,680 show business. You know, it's not you know, have something to 941 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:53,490 fall back on. 942 00:59:54,270 --> 00:59:56,550 Right that's, that's that's the key right there. So in the fall 943 00:59:56,550 --> 01:00:00,420 back, if you're something to fall back on you Whether you 944 01:00:00,420 --> 01:00:04,590 walked away from it or it's been taken from you, it's like, okay, 945 01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:08,550 yeah, you're gonna walk on a highway. Uh huh. And now the 946 01:00:08,550 --> 01:00:12,480 risk versus reward is greater. I mean, well, the reward is 947 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,980 greater, and the risk is higher as well. But it's a certain 948 01:00:17,340 --> 01:00:21,300 mentality that was been beaten into Americans specifically yes, 949 01:00:21,330 --> 01:00:24,150 that you go to job you go to school, you get you're saying 950 01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:26,610 you get, you know, some kind of training vocational, either 951 01:00:26,610 --> 01:00:31,770 educational, and then you go get a job. And you you, you say, you 952 01:00:31,770 --> 01:00:35,940 live in that, and you live in that space until you retire. And 953 01:00:35,940 --> 01:00:39,900 this is the social contract. That's been, you know, written 954 01:00:40,530 --> 01:00:44,010 all of my life. I can't speak to before that, but that was the 955 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,550 understanding. And now for somebody say, I've done all the 956 01:00:47,550 --> 01:00:51,390 right things, I checked all the boxes, I worked hard. I'm 957 01:00:51,390 --> 01:00:55,590 grinding my way, you know, your sense of where I met. And then 958 01:00:55,590 --> 01:01:02,130 for somebody else to come in, this is how that goes. Ah, yeah, 959 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,300 that. That's, that's where the frustration comes in it. So I 960 01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:10,470 understand. So now we got to go back to show 13 deconstructing 961 01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:19,050 Kanye, because we've seen Kanye deal with this publicly, you 962 01:01:19,050 --> 01:01:23,100 know, being called crazy. And because the arrow of his 963 01:01:23,130 --> 01:01:27,840 outburst and yes, yes, yes, yes, hot takes and those kinds of 964 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,740 things, you know, they just kind of get back in line. Don't don't 965 01:01:31,740 --> 01:01:35,040 gotta get like Kanye, you get your rapper, your producer. Why 966 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,650 do you want to be an artist? Why do you want to be a fashion 967 01:01:37,650 --> 01:01:42,120 person I was thinking this day. That's crazy. So now we got to 968 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:47,010 go back. And this is Kanye. From show 13. Number five. 969 01:01:47,339 --> 01:01:51,689 Kobe Bryant won five championships. He's sprained all 970 01:01:51,689 --> 01:01:56,009 kinds of muscles all through his body tore ligaments. And for 971 01:01:56,009 --> 01:01:59,969 people to go to Kanye West where I'm playing in the highest level 972 01:01:59,969 --> 01:02:02,789 of mental sport. I have Mark Zuckerberg wanting to meet with 973 01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:06,719 me. Yes, I have people kind of want to meet with me, that are 974 01:02:06,719 --> 01:02:09,539 makers that are worried at this point. So I'm playing at this 975 01:02:09,539 --> 01:02:16,079 mental sport as a black band. Post POC, post Biggie, Puff 976 01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:21,659 Daddy Jay Z. In Debt, completely control. The management knows 977 01:02:21,659 --> 01:02:26,219 how much exactly, you make it on your tour. And it's just $2 less 978 01:02:26,219 --> 01:02:30,239 than what your house costs. And I'm ending up in debt every 979 01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:34,649 year. And then I have a breakdown. I should have a 980 01:02:34,649 --> 01:02:38,849 hospital in the back of our room for what I'm dealing with. Don't 981 01:02:38,849 --> 01:02:42,389 Don't NBA players got a nice iced every time I need to just 982 01:02:42,389 --> 01:02:46,049 like Lee everyday just go right to UCLA to the level of game of 983 01:02:46,049 --> 01:02:50,009 sport down working at but we don't make Cobis legacy be about 984 01:02:50,009 --> 01:02:53,429 one torn ligament and my legacy ain't about oh, he got me 12 985 01:02:53,459 --> 01:02:57,569 That just come with the level of sport I'm playing. What you 986 01:02:57,569 --> 01:03:00,329 talking about people's trying to send me left and right. 987 01:03:01,350 --> 01:03:03,240 Yeah, that was good. Episode Two. 988 01:03:04,049 --> 01:03:08,849 So what that thing about, you know, people trying to sign you 989 01:03:08,849 --> 01:03:13,229 in crack. So this is the other side of it. Like cuz like say 990 01:03:13,259 --> 01:03:16,079 I'm a free man. And I don't regret anything. And so I want 991 01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:19,889 to make this clear. Now, I have zero regrets. But when you make 992 01:03:19,889 --> 01:03:23,309 a decision, there's pros and cons to it. And we you start to 993 01:03:23,309 --> 01:03:26,729 map these things out. And then you start getting feedback from 994 01:03:26,729 --> 01:03:31,829 people. It's the selling part like you did what I say certain 995 01:03:31,829 --> 01:03:34,679 family members I haven't told, but other family members that 996 01:03:34,679 --> 01:03:39,569 you told the first thing I've got bad like, You got kids. 997 01:03:39,749 --> 01:03:41,129 Yeah. 998 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,340 Yeah, they can help produce Damn it. 999 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,360 Now. Think about that. Just think about that for a minute. 1000 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,620 I'm saying I don't want to do something for me and my personal 1001 01:03:52,620 --> 01:03:57,510 health. And it's like, what you got kids. It's like, but I don't 1002 01:03:57,510 --> 01:04:02,760 want to do this from my personal hill. But you got kids. So it's 1003 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,420 like, I'm supposed to sacrifice myself. And this goes back once 1004 01:04:06,420 --> 01:04:11,850 again, to about the sacrifice is sacrifice yourself. If it 1005 01:04:11,850 --> 01:04:15,210 doesn't work out or your day, you got heart issues, you're 1006 01:04:15,210 --> 01:04:18,180 saying all these other things that come along possibly with 1007 01:04:18,180 --> 01:04:23,700 it? And of course, it's not everybody, but this okay. I 1008 01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:26,700 asked this question we would ask about what's your number? Here's 1009 01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:32,010 another what's your number? Okay, say we had a gun. And we 1010 01:04:32,010 --> 01:04:36,240 were going to put a bullet in one chamber and spin it. How 1011 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,750 many empty chambers would you need to say okay, that's the 1012 01:04:39,750 --> 01:04:45,210 risk I'm willing to take. Yeah. 1010 chambers 100 chambers. 1000 1013 01:04:45,210 --> 01:04:48,990 chambers by when would you when were you playing that game? Cuz 1014 01:04:48,990 --> 01:04:52,290 I'm not playing that game. He's not saying that's bad. Basically 1015 01:04:52,290 --> 01:04:58,830 what they're asking me to do is like, live nine 999 chances that 1016 01:04:58,830 --> 01:05:02,340 you won't get shot. You know, Whoa, it's like, I don't 1017 01:05:02,460 --> 01:05:06,630 know, that's people who don't share the same opinion about 1018 01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:10,800 what this what the shot is. And they don't see it as you know, 1019 01:05:10,860 --> 01:05:13,710 you have options, you know, and they see that as the easy 1020 01:05:13,710 --> 01:05:15,510 option. So it's ignorance. 1021 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,470 Right, what I'm saying, like, what would be this acceptable 1022 01:05:19,740 --> 01:05:23,370 amount of empty chambers, that you're willing to take that risk 1023 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,680 with one live round in one of those chambers? 1024 01:05:26,430 --> 01:05:28,500 You don't have to ask me now. I'm not 1025 01:05:31,020 --> 01:05:35,160 saying, I'm just saying that's that's the mindset of, oh, just 1026 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,000 spin the spin it? 1027 01:05:36,330 --> 01:05:39,120 You know, I get a version of it like, well, you can't even see 1028 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,600 your daughter. So that's right. And she can't see me. That's 1029 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:42,990 right. 1030 01:05:43,950 --> 01:05:47,670 Right. It's the same as on you, dad. Here's how you're not gonna 1031 01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:51,240 take that risk. Dan, you know, you're sure people somebody, 1032 01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:54,450 your must be a bad dad, you were saying let this let this small 1033 01:05:54,450 --> 01:05:55,980 things stand between you and your daughter. 1034 01:05:56,070 --> 01:06:00,690 Okay. Well, for my daughter's the same opinion. So she she has 1035 01:06:00,690 --> 01:06:01,020 the same? 1036 01:06:02,070 --> 01:06:05,310 Yeah, I'm just saying this is the kind of mental game that 1037 01:06:05,310 --> 01:06:10,950 they play in something you and then they wonder why or how it 1038 01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:13,530 can impact your mental health? Because I just want I just 1039 01:06:13,530 --> 01:06:18,180 wanted to point that out. Because as we seen what Kanye if 1040 01:06:18,180 --> 01:06:24,060 you don't do what's expected of me? You're crazy. Yep. But and 1041 01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:26,880 on the other hand, if you're from other communities, and you 1042 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,400 don't do what's expected, you're innovating. You're still 1043 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,850 innovative. He's risk taking, you know, he's a Cavalier, he's 1044 01:06:32,850 --> 01:06:37,860 a maverick, you know, they have all these terms. Yeah. Other 1045 01:06:37,860 --> 01:06:41,880 people, you know, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you know, like, it's 1046 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,220 like Elon Musk. You're saying like, if he was a black man, 1047 01:06:44,220 --> 01:06:46,440 like, what? Electric cars? 1048 01:06:49,980 --> 01:06:52,260 Don't know, maybe, maybe no one's saying 1049 01:06:52,260 --> 01:06:55,950 like, this is the genesis of the idea. If you if you would have 1050 01:06:55,950 --> 01:06:59,640 said that, like before, he actually built Tesla cars around 1051 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:00,300 batteries. 1052 01:07:01,290 --> 01:07:05,430 But he didn't build Tesla. Elon Musk is not a good example. He's 1053 01:07:05,430 --> 01:07:08,850 a figurehead to me, he you know, he was put in charge of Tesla, 1054 01:07:09,030 --> 01:07:11,160 you know, it was already existed already. 1055 01:07:11,580 --> 01:07:13,770 Okay, well, I'm just saying like the narrative, you're gonna say, 1056 01:07:13,770 --> 01:07:17,970 like, if whatever, you're going to take a risk, then you're 1057 01:07:17,970 --> 01:07:22,860 crazy to take a risk because Elon is, by the way he is. Yeah, 1058 01:07:22,860 --> 01:07:27,030 he's the He's the richest African American history. We've 1059 01:07:27,030 --> 01:07:30,750 always put respect on his name. So let's go to now we're going 1060 01:07:30,750 --> 01:07:36,390 to go to show 41. And I forget what title this what I had to 1061 01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:40,500 title someone, but show 41 nonetheless, and this is to pot 1062 01:07:40,860 --> 01:07:43,650 and he's going to talk about being locked in on the outside. 1063 01:07:43,650 --> 01:07:47,160 And, you know, and notice, that's not it. This is gonna 1064 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,340 talk about, you know, getting rich and agreed in America. This 1065 01:07:50,340 --> 01:07:51,270 world is such 1066 01:07:51,660 --> 01:07:54,690 an I say this world, I mean, it I don't mean an ideal sense. I 1067 01:07:54,690 --> 01:07:58,260 mean, in every day, every little thing you do is such a, give me 1068 01:07:58,260 --> 01:08:02,100 give me give me. Everybody back off. You know, everybody's like 1069 01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:04,650 you taught that from school, everywhere, big business, you 1070 01:08:04,650 --> 01:08:07,290 want to be successful. You want to be like Trump, give me give 1071 01:08:07,290 --> 01:08:10,080 me give me push, push, push, push, step, step, step, crush, 1072 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,080 crush crush. That's how it all is. And it's like, nobody ever 1073 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,990 stopped. You know, I feel like, instead of us just being like, 1074 01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:20,460 slavery is bad slavery is that bad. YT bad YT. I mean, why? 1075 01:08:20,460 --> 01:08:23,370 Let's stop that. And everybody's smart enough to know that. I 1076 01:08:23,370 --> 01:08:26,640 mean, we've been slighted. And we hours. And I don't mean by 1077 01:08:26,670 --> 01:08:30,090 like I was 40 acres in Mute, because we passed that. But we 1078 01:08:30,090 --> 01:08:33,300 need help. I mean, for us to be on our own two feet, us meaning 1079 01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:36,270 us or us, meaning black people, whatever, you want to take your 1080 01:08:36,270 --> 01:08:38,760 phone for us to be on our own two feet, we do need help. 1081 01:08:38,910 --> 01:08:41,640 Because we have been here we have been a good friend, if you 1082 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,340 want to make it a relationship type thing. We have been there 1083 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,070 and now we deserve our pay back. It's like you got a friend that 1084 01:08:47,070 --> 01:08:49,320 you don't never look out for. You know, you dressed up in 1085 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,830 Jews. Now America's got Jews, and they got the pain and 1086 01:08:52,830 --> 01:08:55,440 everything and they lending money to everybody except 1087 01:08:55,589 --> 01:09:01,349 us. Yeah, this this was back when tea still talk like that. 1088 01:09:01,349 --> 01:09:04,379 And when you you could still get an interview with him like that. 1089 01:09:04,799 --> 01:09:08,039 Right? So that was that was 92 Yeah, but I just want to show 1090 01:09:08,039 --> 01:09:12,689 for 6892 You hear the same? The same, you're saying the same 1091 01:09:12,689 --> 01:09:17,579 message. It's the same thing. It's like hey, you know, you 1092 01:09:17,579 --> 01:09:21,599 want us to be good, you know, saying good citizens take part 1093 01:09:21,599 --> 01:09:25,319 in this American dream. But you know, you want to dictate 1094 01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:28,379 certain things to us. And not you're saying not allow for 1095 01:09:28,379 --> 01:09:32,129 upward mobility. Now, of course, this is not raised bass with 1096 01:09:32,129 --> 01:09:37,499 this shot. But it's still, you know, we're gonna they're kind 1097 01:09:37,499 --> 01:09:41,909 of picking the winners and the losers. How can you do that? You 1098 01:09:41,909 --> 01:09:46,949 know, and it becomes so pressurized that you know, 1099 01:09:46,949 --> 01:09:50,819 people I don't think people really understand where we're 1100 01:09:50,819 --> 01:09:58,049 at. There's so many homeless young men out here. It's 1101 01:09:58,979 --> 01:10:02,579 specifically black mean, cuz I talked to him you don't say 1102 01:10:02,579 --> 01:10:08,459 like, um, when they stop, excuse my language like I use on cars 1103 01:10:08,459 --> 01:10:11,579 like this, but when they stopped giving a fuck, America has a 1104 01:10:11,579 --> 01:10:15,929 real problem. I don't I don't think they understand what's 1105 01:10:15,929 --> 01:10:20,039 really going on, you know, they know when a homeless people stop 1106 01:10:20,039 --> 01:10:23,969 caring when that when you know when the homeless, the hungry, 1107 01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:25,859 the outer work this is what you're seeing the great 1108 01:10:25,859 --> 01:10:28,859 resignation a lot of people just throwing their hands up like, 1109 01:10:29,219 --> 01:10:33,539 what Let's go, whatever it will be will be you know is what it 1110 01:10:33,539 --> 01:10:33,809 is 1111 01:10:33,810 --> 01:10:36,810 how to sauce on top of that we're all gonna die in 10 years 1112 01:10:36,810 --> 01:10:40,170 from climate change just as a narrative that just floats 1113 01:10:40,170 --> 01:10:40,710 around. 1114 01:10:41,579 --> 01:10:45,389 And then the racialization of everything and, you know, 1115 01:10:46,319 --> 01:10:51,059 without any explanation, you factor that in the you factor in 1116 01:10:51,209 --> 01:10:55,649 that, you know, men men can't find women or they can't if they 1117 01:10:55,649 --> 01:10:58,019 find a woman that can't take care of a woman no family 1118 01:10:58,019 --> 01:11:02,129 nothing to live for no kids, not America, I'm telling you, you're 1119 01:11:02,129 --> 01:11:05,669 sitting on a powder keg. Now I don't know how it's gonna be 1120 01:11:05,669 --> 01:11:09,629 trouble is gonna manifest itself. But it's I see all the 1121 01:11:09,629 --> 01:11:14,009 parts because I can truly empathize. Am I in a better 1122 01:11:14,009 --> 01:11:17,939 position than most? Yes. Am I immediately my life's gonna 1123 01:11:17,939 --> 01:11:23,459 change? No. But the fact is, when you come upset somebody is 1124 01:11:23,459 --> 01:11:27,779 lifelike this how this normally looks is you're being evicted. 1125 01:11:28,349 --> 01:11:31,889 How this normally looks is, you know, you had to pull your kids 1126 01:11:31,889 --> 01:11:34,469 out of certain things, or you know, things that you were 1127 01:11:34,469 --> 01:11:36,779 aspiring to buying a home and those kinds of things. Now my 1128 01:11:36,779 --> 01:11:40,589 downpayment I got to live off of until I find another person when 1129 01:11:40,589 --> 01:11:45,599 you start dashing people dreams like that. It's a it's a it's a 1130 01:11:45,599 --> 01:11:50,699 very, it's a powder keg. I'm not saying that. But I want people 1131 01:11:50,699 --> 01:11:56,309 to understand by is there is a reason why there was a social 1132 01:11:56,309 --> 01:11:59,189 contract. There was their net worth just out of the goodness 1133 01:11:59,189 --> 01:12:03,209 of the heart. It was if these people get pissed off enough, it 1134 01:12:03,209 --> 01:12:04,499 could be real trouble. 1135 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,800 Yeah, and this kind of brings in your Demolition Man theory. 1136 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,220 Yeah. Because what they pushed them to the last point they 1137 01:12:14,220 --> 01:12:17,280 could go underground. Once you put me on the ground eating rat 1138 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:23,460 burgers. It's like, What? What? What we're saying what do you 1139 01:12:23,460 --> 01:12:26,400 want? For me? You're saying like, where? Where's the loose 1140 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:32,100 for me? Where I'm at the bottom? You know, so yeah, that's why I 1141 01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:34,890 keep harping on the Demolition Man thing once you push people 1142 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,830 on the ground, and that, you know, they get comfortable 1143 01:12:37,830 --> 01:12:41,550 there. And it's like, well, the odd thing between between me and 1144 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:46,740 success is those people, whoever they are, you're going to get a 1145 01:12:46,740 --> 01:12:50,070 natural reaction and to pot got another clip for him. He's gonna 1146 01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:53,610 explain that once we stop asking them demanding of start. 1147 01:12:54,660 --> 01:12:59,430 Interesting how hip hop rap music in the beginning, or song 1148 01:12:59,430 --> 01:13:02,970 like Grandmaster Flash is the message where basically they 1149 01:13:02,970 --> 01:13:05,550 were saying, you know, it's like a jungle sometimes I wish, you 1150 01:13:05,550 --> 01:13:08,940 know, I wonder how I've kept from going under the whole root 1151 01:13:08,940 --> 01:13:11,970 of what that song was, was basically saying, Look, these 1152 01:13:11,970 --> 01:13:15,720 are the problems here, you know, and here we are 10 years or plus 1153 01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:19,860 later, those problems are still still there. And the intensity 1154 01:13:19,860 --> 01:13:23,700 of the music has built to the no hope the I don't give a 1155 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:29,040 attitude. How did we get from from Grandmaster Flash to the 1156 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,980 message to where we are now? in hip 1157 01:13:31,980 --> 01:13:38,430 hop? Again, you have to be logical. No, if if I know in 1158 01:13:38,430 --> 01:13:41,940 this hotel room, they have food every day. And I'm knocking on 1159 01:13:41,940 --> 01:13:45,480 the door every day to eat and they tell me they open the door. 1160 01:13:45,480 --> 01:13:49,200 Let me see the party. Let me see like them throwing salami all 1161 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,200 over. I mean, just like throwing food around. But you're telling 1162 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,500 me there's no food in here. You know, I'm saying every day. I'm 1163 01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:58,680 standing outside trying to sing my way in. You know, I'm saying 1164 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:04,020 we are we please let us and we are pleased. After about a week 1165 01:14:04,020 --> 01:14:07,800 that song is gonna change that. We are hungry. We need some food 1166 01:14:07,830 --> 01:14:12,780 after two three weeks is like you know, give me $1 After 1167 01:14:12,780 --> 01:14:15,570 hearing just like, you know, I'm saying picking the lock coming 1168 01:14:15,570 --> 01:14:16,770 through and door blasting. 1169 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:25,560 Yeah. And that's why you see the trains, we're seeing stuff like 1170 01:14:25,740 --> 01:14:30,090 people are robbing trains. People are walking away from 1171 01:14:30,090 --> 01:14:34,980 their jobs in mass. This what this symbolizes to me, and just 1172 01:14:34,980 --> 01:14:37,800 like I said, through my experiences, people are 1173 01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:45,450 unplugging from society. And I don't understand I don't think 1174 01:14:45,450 --> 01:14:50,520 people understand how problematic that is. You know, 1175 01:14:50,940 --> 01:14:56,130 if some well armed you know, elements in this society that 1176 01:14:56,130 --> 01:15:01,050 can make things very hard. And that likes This goes from two 1177 01:15:01,050 --> 01:15:08,130 pot from 1992 was the first clip to 1994. And you can hear by the 1178 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,610 distance you're saying this is Chapman with the system, you 1179 01:15:11,610 --> 01:15:16,560 know, well, even at the same time, he's, he's achieving so 1180 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:22,200 much success. Personally, where he was like seeing things get 1181 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:28,020 worse, you know, for for people around him so I just I just want 1182 01:15:28,020 --> 01:15:29,940 to bring this you know brains to the light 1183 01:15:29,970 --> 01:15:36,960 Yeah, it's it's really people weren't listening and and what's 1184 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:41,310 cool about it in a sick way is that hip hop was just completely 1185 01:15:41,310 --> 01:15:46,440 commercialized culture alized and people the the words just 1186 01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:50,580 became meaningless just became a story didn't become fact or 1187 01:15:50,580 --> 01:15:52,080 truth or reality. 1188 01:15:54,240 --> 01:16:00,960 But hip hop is the voice of the underclass Sure. It no even even 1189 01:16:01,020 --> 01:16:05,010 today, we need to listen to what these kids are saying. And I 1190 01:16:05,010 --> 01:16:07,680 don't say I don't mean kids disrespectfully, I'm saying the 1191 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,010 young, like, once they get to the point where I don't even 1192 01:16:11,010 --> 01:16:16,020 care anymore. When you get to that point, that's when a person 1193 01:16:16,020 --> 01:16:19,620 gets to the point where I don't have anything to lose. Yeah, 1194 01:16:20,190 --> 01:16:25,770 that's a very dangerous place to be. Now, luckily, for me, 1195 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,520 personally, I've seen a person go through a change like this. 1196 01:16:30,180 --> 01:16:34,140 My father and my mother, they went back to college, in their 1197 01:16:34,140 --> 01:16:40,860 30s I mean, literally back to college, not not like a phoenix, 1198 01:16:40,890 --> 01:16:43,380 you know, saying that, like, I'm sorry, mom picked up the family, 1199 01:16:44,190 --> 01:16:51,390 quit their jobs. And cuz my dad saw he was like, okay, at 485 1200 01:16:51,390 --> 01:16:55,530 He's starting to see like, the jobs leaving the country. Mm 1201 01:16:55,530 --> 01:17:00,360 hmm. So he's like, Well, this job man cuz he had a good job. 1202 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,850 He was a technician. He had an interesting had, he had the 1203 01:17:02,850 --> 01:17:05,520 equivalent what it was to two year degree, and he had already 1204 01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,340 achieved enough credits to get it but he was saying he hadn't, 1205 01:17:08,340 --> 01:17:10,560 you know, didn't know that he had enough credit he was you're 1206 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:15,480 still going to school. And, um, he finally realized that him my 1207 01:17:15,480 --> 01:17:17,700 mom said now like, you know, what, if we want a better life 1208 01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:22,020 for our kids, we need to make a decision. And they packed up 1209 01:17:22,020 --> 01:17:25,860 their things pack this up, and we moved to college town and 1210 01:17:25,860 --> 01:17:28,380 they went to you know, university. Now when they got 1211 01:17:28,380 --> 01:17:34,350 there. This is when this this is where the no man house. My dad 1212 01:17:34,350 --> 01:17:39,180 ran into it. Could they tell him he's like, Well, because they 1213 01:17:39,180 --> 01:17:43,920 couldn't find daycare for me. Because he was there. So and in 1214 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,590 the social worker literally told him like, well, the minister was 1215 01:17:46,590 --> 01:17:51,750 to leave the house. We could find daycare. From Oh, 1216 01:17:53,820 --> 01:17:59,700 wow. Alright, and that was and that was what year 280 84? 1217 01:18:00,330 --> 01:18:05,940 Wow. Yes. So this is not so antiquated thing. This is this 1218 01:18:05,940 --> 01:18:09,690 is I've lived most of the stuff I talked about on the show. I've 1219 01:18:09,690 --> 01:18:14,100 even lived in a one degree away from it. And my dad's like, hell 1220 01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:17,310 no, I'm not he basically cuts the lady out. I mean, anger like 1221 01:18:17,310 --> 01:18:24,600 once again, like, What are you saying? He meant to entice 1222 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:26,850 just insane. 1223 01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:31,650 But it was saying I mean, like normal, like, hey, you know, 1224 01:18:31,650 --> 01:18:35,700 Sammy leaves, we can do y'all to help you need. And I'm seeing 1225 01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:39,660 the same thing crop up now. Because when you lose your job, 1226 01:18:39,660 --> 01:18:40,770 you lose your insurance. 1227 01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:47,130 Child Protective Services is a very odd division of government. 1228 01:18:49,290 --> 01:18:57,450 Well, I have a whole lot to say I have a Yeah. As is very ham 1229 01:18:57,450 --> 01:19:02,820 handed at best. Let me just say that. It's one approach solves 1230 01:19:02,850 --> 01:19:06,600 all problems. Which in these cases, no family is the same. No 1231 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,510 child situation is the same. I don't want to extend goes too 1232 01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:12,300 far down that rabbit hole down that rabbit hole, but and we'll 1233 01:19:12,300 --> 01:19:16,380 talk about their upcoming shows, trust me. But the fact that when 1234 01:19:16,380 --> 01:19:21,540 I'm saying is when the woman is presented with the state, which 1235 01:19:21,540 --> 01:19:27,600 can provide, right? She's looking at her man, like you 1236 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,660 ain't working. Yep. And it's somehow like, Well, you wouldn't 1237 01:19:30,660 --> 01:19:33,780 even then it becomes and it's not my personal choice not to 1238 01:19:33,780 --> 01:19:36,930 make it very clear. But when she looks at you and say, All you 1239 01:19:36,930 --> 01:19:41,880 had to do was take a shot. I know right? Now she's like, 1240 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,360 well, this government will offer me Medicaid or Medicare, 1241 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:49,890 whichever one it is. If you're not around, and I can get help, 1242 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,760 I can get daycare. I can get this. This we're gonna see no 1243 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:59,250 man in the house. 2.0 I believe. Um, and the cool thing about it 1244 01:19:59,250 --> 01:20:02,790 is pretty To the show because this is coming from and I know 1245 01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:04,590 there's a lot doback clips but we had to look at them in 1246 01:20:04,590 --> 01:20:09,060 context now in a certain way that we have looked at them 1247 01:20:09,060 --> 01:20:13,350 before, but long before me you hooked up you and John, we're 1248 01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:17,880 doing the no man in the house because this is actually from a 1249 01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,510 no agenda clip. I had covered it as well. But this is what from 1250 01:20:21,510 --> 01:20:24,570 one of the shows it wanted to produce sent me back for show 1251 01:20:24,570 --> 01:20:28,950 too. But this is a recap of Noman house one. 1252 01:20:30,090 --> 01:20:37,950 Before we move into Pruitt I go, the Welfare Department came to 1253 01:20:37,980 --> 01:20:45,330 our home. They talk with my mother about moving into a 1254 01:20:45,330 --> 01:20:51,510 housing project. But the stipulation was that my father 1255 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:59,040 could not be with us. They would put us into the housing project, 1256 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:03,660 only if he left this state. 1257 01:21:04,650 --> 01:21:06,750 Oh, yeah, that's right, the state I remember this. 1258 01:21:07,620 --> 01:21:14,220 And I said that was then. Now we talked about 1984. Yeah, Mr. 1259 01:21:14,220 --> 01:21:19,650 Stan, if you just leave, everything will be alright, what 1260 01:21:19,650 --> 01:21:23,580 was standing as the Father for you. And I got a weird feeling a 1261 01:21:23,580 --> 01:21:27,180 eerie feeling. This is gonna be the scenario once again. Because 1262 01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:29,880 once you run through all your statements, once you run through 1263 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,210 each and every option you have, yeah, there's going 1264 01:21:33,210 --> 01:21:36,870 to be one main difference. And it's going to be a digital 1265 01:21:36,900 --> 01:21:40,740 payment with a digital wallet with a central bank, digital 1266 01:21:40,740 --> 01:21:44,460 currency from the Federal Reserve. That's how they change 1267 01:21:44,460 --> 01:21:47,190 the system. We're going to remove retail banks, and you're 1268 01:21:47,190 --> 01:21:49,890 going to get direct direct pipeline to the government, 1269 01:21:49,890 --> 01:21:53,940 which gives them the ultimate control of giving you something 1270 01:21:53,940 --> 01:21:56,010 extra or taking something away. 1271 01:21:56,430 --> 01:21:58,830 And they can cut you off any minute you didn't do this. You 1272 01:21:58,830 --> 01:22:00,840 didn't get your update and you're saying your key is not 1273 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:02,190 updated on their shots, 1274 01:22:02,310 --> 01:22:04,470 or you watch the wrong Netflix show. 1275 01:22:05,340 --> 01:22:06,810 Or listen to the wrong podcast. 1276 01:22:08,430 --> 01:22:10,500 ixnay on the odd guy, odd cast pay. 1277 01:22:12,330 --> 01:22:16,590 I'm sorry. You know how it goes. I mean, this is the time that 1278 01:22:16,590 --> 01:22:21,300 we're in there with you. So let's just get into this second 1279 01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:25,590 No, no man clip the welfare department had a rule that no 1280 01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:29,760 able bodied man could be in the house if a woman received aid 1281 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:34,590 for dependent children was a man lost his job. He's looking for 1282 01:22:34,590 --> 01:22:39,150 work, he still had to leave the home. And there was even a night 1283 01:22:39,150 --> 01:22:43,200 staff of men who worked for the welfare department whose job was 1284 01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:47,490 to go to the homes of welfare recipients and they searched to 1285 01:22:47,490 --> 01:22:49,260 find if there was a man in the home 1286 01:22:49,350 --> 01:22:53,520 i Remember also our our second episode talking about this how 1287 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,190 mind blowing it was to really understand in depth what had 1288 01:22:56,190 --> 01:23:00,300 gone on and was still going on. And and just coming back for 1289 01:23:01,470 --> 01:23:05,520 it was going on because dudes to wrap up the story my personal 1290 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:11,400 story. Oh, my dad was like before I leave, we had to send 1291 01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,050 mo to live with his grandparents 1292 01:23:13,950 --> 01:23:17,370 with his auntie and uncle in Bel Air right? No. 1293 01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:23,010 Grandma and Grandpa ritual apartments which I he was in the 1294 01:23:23,010 --> 01:23:25,530 country, they call them projects, but they were rent 1295 01:23:25,530 --> 01:23:29,640 controlled apartments. And literally, he was the man 1296 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:30,930 renting out the back door 1297 01:23:31,260 --> 01:23:34,200 when the inspectors came. Yes, yeah. 1298 01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:39,840 So I'm, like I said I've lived this and so now it's like okay, 1299 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:44,970 now I see what the state set with this. Because whether I'm 1300 01:23:44,970 --> 01:23:50,010 right or not, I feel like there's an enemy contra break me 1301 01:23:50,010 --> 01:23:57,540 to their wheel. And I don't care how how kumbaya or nama stay and 1302 01:23:57,540 --> 01:24:00,450 all that you are. When you feel like you have a target on your 1303 01:24:00,450 --> 01:24:06,720 back. It's gonna make you angry. Yeah. It's gonna make it's gonna 1304 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,540 make you angry. Now, like I said, My anger is different. 1305 01:24:10,230 --> 01:24:14,850 Because I do have other options before me, but that still 1306 01:24:14,850 --> 01:24:19,440 doesn't negate the fact that someone arbitrarily just do. 1307 01:24:19,470 --> 01:24:23,460 You're saying a whole damn wrinkle in my whole life? Behind 1308 01:24:23,460 --> 01:24:28,830 what? For what reason for what outcome? 1309 01:24:31,140 --> 01:24:33,960 Yeah, again, I only have one answer. 1310 01:24:36,450 --> 01:24:40,800 What is that? I mean, I say it one more time. It's intentional. 1311 01:24:40,830 --> 01:24:47,490 It's intentional. So, so if it's intentional what is that now 1312 01:24:47,490 --> 01:24:51,150 that ratcheted up the anger? He's like, if it was ignorance, 1313 01:24:51,150 --> 01:24:53,400 it's like, okay, they're just ignorant. You know, I mean, even 1314 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,200 though I'm mad and I'm saying Nate was ignorant, you were 1315 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:59,310 saying was ignorant mistake, if it's intentional. Now I got to 1316 01:24:59,310 --> 01:25:03,000 see like how Are you willing to take it? I think that's where a 1317 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,690 lot of people you heard one lady said about the mask, you know, 1318 01:25:06,690 --> 01:25:09,480 saying it was in the news. I'm gonna show it with all my guns 1319 01:25:09,480 --> 01:25:14,250 loaded. Did you see that? 1320 01:25:15,030 --> 01:25:17,580 I didn't, but I understand. I understand. She was 1321 01:25:17,579 --> 01:25:20,759 at a school board meeting. She was like, I'm gonna show up. 1322 01:25:21,749 --> 01:25:26,309 When you start hearing people talk like that. Somebody needs 1323 01:25:26,309 --> 01:25:27,929 to doubt that the pressure somewhere? 1324 01:25:28,499 --> 01:25:32,369 Well, I think Canada will lead the way. We'll see what happens 1325 01:25:32,369 --> 01:25:35,669 with these truckers and that will that they're going to be 1326 01:25:35,999 --> 01:25:37,889 it's going to be resolved one way or the other. And it's going 1327 01:25:37,889 --> 01:25:41,729 to happen pretty soon. I don't think this will last very long. 1328 01:25:42,659 --> 01:25:43,199 And you know 1329 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:48,570 what, that's where we differ. And this is his perspective. 1330 01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:56,580 Because this system, they No, no, stop, in my mind. They know 1331 01:25:56,610 --> 01:25:57,780 it. No, 1332 01:25:57,780 --> 01:26:00,840 I don't think we differ at all. I'm saying that protest is not 1333 01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:05,670 going to last very long one. The pressure? No, no, the pressure 1334 01:26:05,670 --> 01:26:08,130 is on for a long. This is just the beginning. We're just 1335 01:26:08,130 --> 01:26:11,880 getting started. Okay, Mr. Mr. Joe? No, no, no, no, no, I'm 1336 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,700 with you on that. This is what this is why we connect so well. 1337 01:26:14,730 --> 01:26:16,860 We know that these are reptiles doing this. 1338 01:26:17,310 --> 01:26:21,570 Like this. I think it was a Neely, Fuller said don't be 1339 01:26:21,570 --> 01:26:25,710 confused and think that they're confused. Exactly. It seems like 1340 01:26:25,710 --> 01:26:27,960 they're like, what they're all over the place. Like what are 1341 01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,930 they doing? No. Do they know clue accent? Do they know what 1342 01:26:30,930 --> 01:26:33,960 they're doing? Do? I mean? Do they realize that's the thing? 1343 01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,350 That's the question. But don't ever begin your scent when 1344 01:26:37,350 --> 01:26:40,110 you're talking about they capital A. We don't ever begin 1345 01:26:40,110 --> 01:26:44,310 your sentence. They do they realize they realize what 1346 01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:49,620 they're doing. And I've been caught up in it. And like I 1347 01:26:49,620 --> 01:26:54,450 said, it's the frustration and somewhat of the shame because if 1348 01:26:54,450 --> 01:26:59,160 you've never not worked, but how do you say I don't even know how 1349 01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,040 to say that. Like, I don't work. I'm not working. You don't say 1350 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:06,240 like that's like I said that's a personal issue. But that's still 1351 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,580 weird sentence for me to say. 1352 01:27:09,060 --> 01:27:13,140 But you are working. You may not be employed by a company, but 1353 01:27:13,140 --> 01:27:14,100 you are working 1354 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,730 on staying working. I'm definitely working on a word to 1355 01:27:17,730 --> 01:27:20,910 say is employed. Let me say it when you say you're not 1356 01:27:20,910 --> 01:27:21,660 employed. 1357 01:27:22,410 --> 01:27:25,620 Yeah, but you don't say that. I say I'm self employed. Right. 1358 01:27:26,460 --> 01:27:30,630 But I'm coming from a place of being a worker for 25 years. 1359 01:27:30,630 --> 01:27:34,650 Yeah. Oh, I know. That's a weird sentence to put 1360 01:27:35,490 --> 01:27:38,100 out. But I also I also know you a little bit and you've got it 1361 01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:41,220 all in you. You are you have everything you need in there. 1362 01:27:41,850 --> 01:27:44,760 Oh, yeah. And it still was not all doom and gloom. But what I'm 1363 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,690 saying is, first, we have to understand what it's like it's 1364 01:27:48,690 --> 01:27:54,570 not about me. Because it's people out here that made the 1365 01:27:54,570 --> 01:27:58,050 same decision I had, and they don't know where their next 1366 01:27:59,130 --> 01:28:03,420 check is coming from right there now dollars coming from those 1367 01:28:03,420 --> 01:28:09,810 kind of you know, so I have to speak for the experience to say 1368 01:28:09,810 --> 01:28:15,600 one to them, goes to talk to somebody. For the people that 1369 01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:20,460 know people like that reach out to your brother. You're saying 1370 01:28:20,490 --> 01:28:23,880 and your sisters whoever saying but for me and I said I'm making 1371 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:29,640 a show about men, because the expectation to provide is baked 1372 01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:36,210 into our identity. Absolutely, absolutely. It's hard, hardcore. 1373 01:28:37,650 --> 01:28:41,280 I got to tell my wife all the time. If people come to our 1374 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:45,750 house, and it's messy, they're gonna look at you every put out 1375 01:28:45,870 --> 01:28:48,270 on the street. They're gonna look at me. That's just the 1376 01:28:48,270 --> 01:28:52,140 social norms of it. Nobody's gonna be like, like Wow, did you 1377 01:28:52,140 --> 01:28:55,170 see most houses really a mess? Right now? What is it? What is 1378 01:28:55,170 --> 01:28:56,910 he doing over there? They're gonna look at the woman because 1379 01:28:56,910 --> 01:29:01,320 it's just assume that the woman takes care of the home and make 1380 01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,870 it knock said that could be totally far from the truth but 1381 01:29:04,020 --> 01:29:10,530 social expectation, I'm talking about social norms. So we talked 1382 01:29:10,530 --> 01:29:15,000 about no man house and my dad he was placed with the same thing. 1383 01:29:15,300 --> 01:29:18,300 And he was like, You know what, I'm not going to come to the 1384 01:29:18,330 --> 01:29:22,020 Nomad no man house so they sent me to live with my grandparents 1385 01:29:22,020 --> 01:29:27,390 which I think it had an impact on me to live with older people 1386 01:29:27,390 --> 01:29:33,120 for a year and a half two years and gave me a perspective like 1387 01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:41,520 no other because their their wisdom. He was constantly 1388 01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:47,790 interesting to showered on me. So am I'm just like, say you 1389 01:29:47,790 --> 01:29:50,790 just get another kind of love from grandparents, you know? 1390 01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,270 Sure. A little different from parent love. So I don't regret 1391 01:29:54,270 --> 01:29:58,470 that and my parents don't regret that but the stigma and shame my 1392 01:29:58,470 --> 01:30:03,090 father felt So you're saying that you had to send one of your 1393 01:30:03,090 --> 01:30:06,810 kids away. And we saw this with the Great Depression, CD thing. 1394 01:30:07,260 --> 01:30:11,550 We, it's not harping on history, we got to look backwards. Um, 1395 01:30:11,580 --> 01:30:13,950 the Great Depression, a lot of people had to send their kids 1396 01:30:13,980 --> 01:30:22,530 away, because they were starving. So it's by, here we 1397 01:30:22,530 --> 01:30:26,670 are again, I wasn't starving, because if they wanted to have a 1398 01:30:26,670 --> 01:30:29,100 better life than they had to send me away, you know, that 1399 01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:33,180 kind of thing. And the shame that he felt, even to this day, 1400 01:30:33,180 --> 01:30:35,340 he apologized to me, it's like that, well, you're apologizing 1401 01:30:35,340 --> 01:30:37,410 for your way, you know, how to do what I had to do, you know, 1402 01:30:37,410 --> 01:30:41,760 for the better life, or that kind of thing. So I say I've 1403 01:30:42,180 --> 01:30:45,450 experienced someone in the middle of their life make a 1404 01:30:45,450 --> 01:30:49,770 decision. That's a better decision in the long run, but 1405 01:30:49,770 --> 01:30:51,870 it's gonna be hard. It was hard those years when they went to 1406 01:30:51,870 --> 01:30:56,940 college. I mean, it was like the 1.2 places we ate out it was 1407 01:30:56,940 --> 01:31:03,090 like Domino's Pizza. And Wendy's, who actually get like, 1408 01:31:03,090 --> 01:31:05,910 go to Wendy's like a steakhouse. Yeah, and I remember Tuesday, 1409 01:31:05,910 --> 01:31:08,220 like with the ketchup, like pumping the ketchup and the 1410 01:31:08,220 --> 01:31:10,710 cups, man, you would think we were going like two cylinders? 1411 01:31:14,220 --> 01:31:19,830 Yeah, yeah. But like, that's the know, him making the best news 1412 01:31:19,830 --> 01:31:24,930 and a tough situation. So this next clip is from the family. 1413 01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,860 And that was the the Christian Illuminati basically. Oh, yeah. 1414 01:31:28,890 --> 01:31:33,780 ran, ran by duck Co. And this also comes from the comm Kanye 1415 01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:39,180 episode. But this is the family, the black guy talking about, you 1416 01:31:39,180 --> 01:31:43,170 know, the frustration, but also dealing with anger as well. 1417 01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,380 And often men and especially who are confronted with themselves, 1418 01:31:46,530 --> 01:31:51,990 they don't like what they see. And they don't like it being put 1419 01:31:51,990 --> 01:31:57,090 in their face and spoken to what it actually is in its ugly 1420 01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:03,960 database. But my point is, is the shame keeps us locked in our 1421 01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:07,650 circumstances. And then if we don't deal with shame, right, we 1422 01:32:07,650 --> 01:32:10,590 start playing me we blame our wives. We blame white folk, we 1423 01:32:10,590 --> 01:32:14,610 blame Blackboard, we blame the economy. We blame doctrine, 1424 01:32:14,700 --> 01:32:19,320 everybody. There's nothing scarier in this country than a 1425 01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:25,410 free black man speaking. Why? Because we've been through some 1426 01:32:25,410 --> 01:32:26,130 shit here. 1427 01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:36,480 Yeah, so that's that's the where all this anger said. And it may 1428 01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:40,500 be justified, that I feel angry. I'll put myself in this 1429 01:32:40,500 --> 01:32:45,330 position. Right to be dependent upon a company for this long, 1430 01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,460 you know, saying like, it's their choice, at the end of the 1431 01:32:47,460 --> 01:32:50,670 day, whatever they want to do. So what you have to do is 1432 01:32:50,670 --> 01:32:54,630 reflect on yourself and say, Hi, I will not get myself in this 1433 01:32:54,630 --> 01:33:00,360 position again, right? By right. Well as you want to absolve 1434 01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:05,250 yourself, have your know what you took part in, even though 1435 01:33:05,250 --> 01:33:08,040 that was a social contract, even though there was an 1436 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:12,330 understanding. At the end of the day, if somebody else feeds you, 1437 01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,780 you're at their behest. Right, you know, so this is what we 1438 01:33:15,780 --> 01:33:16,530 have to sell. 1439 01:33:19,410 --> 01:33:22,980 A lot of young people younger than you, but a decade younger, 1440 01:33:23,100 --> 01:33:26,460 are just kind of now figuring out that there's no free lunch. 1441 01:33:29,010 --> 01:33:32,670 Now, it's like if you say, no, but if you accept something, 1442 01:33:33,030 --> 01:33:37,650 then there's going to be strings attached to it. Right? And it's 1443 01:33:37,650 --> 01:33:42,060 not even about a free lunch. It's about there's no 1444 01:33:42,210 --> 01:33:45,420 lunch. There's no lunch. Right? Exactly. 1445 01:33:46,950 --> 01:33:49,530 There's there's no cafeteria, and you got to go out and kill 1446 01:33:49,530 --> 01:33:52,110 what you eat. Or you got to eat with the cafeteria gives you? 1447 01:33:53,250 --> 01:33:59,490 Yep. Ah, I'm sorry, I apologize. You're saying but for for 1448 01:33:59,490 --> 01:34:01,800 stepping on you like right there. But no, no, it's okay. 1449 01:34:01,950 --> 01:34:04,920 Now, it was just like I said, I'm in my own head right now. 1450 01:34:05,610 --> 01:34:08,700 And like, I wanted to do this episode, and I went back and 1451 01:34:08,700 --> 01:34:11,970 forth on it. Still about the shame like well, you can't let 1452 01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,760 you know. You got to keep errors. That's the thing. You 1453 01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,670 got to keep up appearances. You got to keep up. You know, 1454 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:19,800 everything is all right. And 1455 01:34:19,950 --> 01:34:24,510 what you're what you're doing here is, I think this beautiful 1456 01:34:24,510 --> 01:34:30,660 to listen to your venting. Yes, yes. You built your own barber 1457 01:34:30,660 --> 01:34:35,820 shop here. I may not be the right guy to be saying stuff 1458 01:34:35,820 --> 01:34:39,630 back to you. But as a man I can. And I think everyone who listens 1459 01:34:39,630 --> 01:34:42,330 has the same feeling. It is kind of like hey, we're in this 1460 01:34:42,330 --> 01:34:44,910 barber shop this. This brother over here has got some shit to 1461 01:34:44,910 --> 01:34:47,640 say. And it's good. It's good to hear it. 1462 01:34:48,090 --> 01:34:52,200 And don't underestimate the fact when we come and do this is very 1463 01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:56,910 helpful. A lot of the times when I make shows is when I'm either 1464 01:34:56,910 --> 01:35:02,460 processing o r are being made aware of Oh, and we need to keep 1465 01:35:02,460 --> 01:35:06,450 an eye on that. Or maybe people are going through this. And this 1466 01:35:06,450 --> 01:35:11,790 is not about me because yes, I am angry where I was angry, make 1467 01:35:11,790 --> 01:35:16,950 a team to be angry. But it's how do I channel that anger into 1468 01:35:16,950 --> 01:35:20,400 something constructive? And that's what I hope people take 1469 01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,580 away from this. Whether you're dealing with a loved one, a 1470 01:35:23,580 --> 01:35:27,090 wife, a wife, dealing with their husbands, husband dealing with 1471 01:35:27,090 --> 01:35:29,040 their kids, or dealing with their sales or brothers, 1472 01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:32,790 whatever else, realize, even when people say they're okay, 1473 01:35:32,790 --> 01:35:33,870 they're not okay. 1474 01:35:35,700 --> 01:35:39,000 Yeah, this is a very good point to be okay, Tina, and I remind 1475 01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,810 each other of this often, if someone has a weird response 1476 01:35:42,810 --> 01:35:46,890 about something, or you know, families, just stuff, and we 1477 01:35:46,890 --> 01:35:49,290 always had say, Okay, let's just look at their situation from 1478 01:35:49,290 --> 01:35:53,280 their viewpoint for the past two years. Now, let's just bring 1479 01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,760 that in for a moment. So you can kind of okay, ah, all right. So 1480 01:35:56,790 --> 01:35:59,490 someone may be a little more on edge than than I may be. 1481 01:36:01,770 --> 01:36:07,920 Yeah, in, they may be dying for you to say something to them. 1482 01:36:08,850 --> 01:36:14,190 Just like, I wish somebody will ask me, am I okay? Yeah. Ah, and 1483 01:36:14,190 --> 01:36:16,770 that's why, like, when you separate somebody from their 1484 01:36:16,770 --> 01:36:22,260 job, you separate them from a part of their culture. It's no, 1485 01:36:22,260 --> 01:36:26,370 we have work families, and somebody that sees you every 1486 01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,760 year saying every five days a week, every day at the lunch 1487 01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:34,950 table, they can sense something, right? And it's like, do you I, 1488 01:36:35,310 --> 01:36:38,520 it's like not, honestly, I, and then you're getting a 1489 01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,310 conversation about a time to lunch is over. You're all 1490 01:36:41,310 --> 01:36:44,820 laughing and you left it there, that kind of thing. So at least 1491 01:36:44,820 --> 01:36:49,590 like because the people that you work with, they share your 1492 01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:52,140 social economic status, 1493 01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:56,220 oh, it's not just a job. It's very important. An important 1494 01:36:56,220 --> 01:36:57,090 part of life. 1495 01:36:57,780 --> 01:37:00,840 And they can understand when you say, Oh, well, you know, my 1496 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,750 transmission went out, you know, interesting, a couple 1000 Ooh. 1497 01:37:04,110 --> 01:37:07,740 But can they understand like, we make similar money, understand 1498 01:37:07,740 --> 01:37:13,050 how that hits you. Whereas if somebody either they don't have 1499 01:37:13,050 --> 01:37:15,840 a car, or they don't have all ages have the money they might 1500 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:20,220 not understand. So this the separation for that. I would say 1501 01:37:20,220 --> 01:37:25,440 to people start forming your own groups. I think that's why the 1502 01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:28,770 no agenda meetups are important. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think 1503 01:37:28,770 --> 01:37:31,980 that's why the facts family when they come to the live chat, they 1504 01:37:31,980 --> 01:37:38,130 look forward to seeing each other. Um, so yeah, so it's, you 1505 01:37:38,130 --> 01:37:41,070 have to start forming other groups, because we've had me 1506 01:37:41,070 --> 01:37:46,410 personally, no church, no barbershop, no job. That is very 1507 01:37:46,410 --> 01:37:50,280 isolating feeling. Now, I'm planning this next to the clips. 1508 01:37:50,670 --> 01:37:55,380 As for clips, and this is a 1960, frustrated, man demands 1509 01:37:55,410 --> 01:37:58,410 America keep their word. The reason why I'm playing these 1510 01:37:58,470 --> 01:38:04,230 next four clips is when I hear this, I hear my father. And then 1511 01:38:04,230 --> 01:38:10,140 now also hear myself. And hopefully, it gives some insight 1512 01:38:10,440 --> 01:38:15,720 to that ratio program. I talked about how it how it forms. So 1513 01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,570 let's go ahead and get to the first part of that clip. Here. 1514 01:38:19,980 --> 01:38:23,490 Revolution is filled with so many ironies really, first, you 1515 01:38:23,490 --> 01:38:27,690 tell us that it is men need to keep your word. Right, if you 1516 01:38:27,690 --> 01:38:32,340 are a man, you keep your word. And now all of the black people 1517 01:38:32,340 --> 01:38:35,130 in this country are demanding and even the black people in the 1518 01:38:35,130 --> 01:38:39,660 whole world are demanding is that you keep your word. You 1519 01:38:39,660 --> 01:38:44,430 told us we were free? Well then show us that we're free. You 1520 01:38:44,430 --> 01:38:48,060 told us that there is justice equality for all in this country 1521 01:38:48,060 --> 01:38:52,020 woven kit, stick to your word. And let us see the justice and 1522 01:38:52,020 --> 01:38:56,400 equality for all or else admit to us that you're not a man you 1523 01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:58,740 were worried you were afraid of us you were afraid to give us 1524 01:38:58,770 --> 01:39:02,910 equal stand. You're afraid that if you give us equal ground that 1525 01:39:02,910 --> 01:39:06,960 we will match you and we will override you and if that's what 1526 01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,350 you're afraid of us then tell us that just what you're afraid of, 1527 01:39:10,830 --> 01:39:14,370 but don't keep hiding it from us and holding this up to us and 1528 01:39:14,370 --> 01:39:17,160 every time we ask you for something, you give us a little 1529 01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:20,640 bit of something and it's all tokenism we don't want tokenism 1530 01:39:21,090 --> 01:39:25,320 and then most black men in this wallet don't want charity. And 1531 01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,480 yet still every time we ask you for something you give us a 1532 01:39:27,480 --> 01:39:30,420 little piece a little piece you're playing games with us 1533 01:39:30,450 --> 01:39:31,440 when our children 1534 01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:38,550 so you hear the intensity. And like said that's my thought like 1535 01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:42,630 that's what time my father's own. Like even in his 80s Now 1536 01:39:42,630 --> 01:39:48,570 he's intense person. So that's like I said, we're not here to 1537 01:39:48,570 --> 01:39:48,780 shoot. 1538 01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,240 Like, Fred Sanford. 1539 01:39:52,199 --> 01:39:57,809 Well, I'll say this. My dad is a mix between I'll say more George 1540 01:39:57,809 --> 01:39:58,349 Jefferson, 1541 01:39:58,350 --> 01:39:59,970 George Jefferson. Okay. Yeah, that's it. 1542 01:40:00,750 --> 01:40:07,590 I mean, like, seriously? Ah, and maybe James Evans like a Bill 1543 01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:09,930 Cosby like if you put all of those in like, Uh 1544 01:40:10,170 --> 01:40:11,940 oh, that sounds pretty cool actually. 1545 01:40:12,690 --> 01:40:17,550 Because cuz one charity when he made there, and that, that's 1546 01:40:17,550 --> 01:40:25,650 what makes you say, I'm good at maths, maths and I'm good. i 1547 01:40:25,650 --> 01:40:29,400 You're saying me something I'm good, even though you may be 1548 01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:33,840 broke, and don't have $1 in your pocket, before I let you know, 1549 01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:38,940 I'm not good, I'll go hungry. And maybe, maybe these, this 1550 01:40:38,940 --> 01:40:45,630 isn't the most ignorant mindset to have. But when you have the 1551 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:54,540 disappearance thing of, well, if I ask for something that only 1552 01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,630 reaffirms in your mind that black people can't do for 1553 01:40:57,630 --> 01:41:05,250 themselves. So we got to fake it till we make it. And like I 1554 01:41:05,250 --> 01:41:08,100 said, I'm going through the mental process now in my own 1555 01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:13,800 head and transfer it out. So he crosses microphone for people to 1556 01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:19,290 feel me. Yeah, I feel you. It's like, okay, let me let me ask 1557 01:41:21,330 --> 01:41:25,890 you at any point and ask because I want to make sure we so when 1558 01:41:25,890 --> 01:41:26,700 we understand 1559 01:41:27,030 --> 01:41:30,090 when we first connected, and you reached out to me, and we're 1560 01:41:30,090 --> 01:41:35,340 chatting back and forth. And then I think I suggested Hey, we 1561 01:41:35,340 --> 01:41:41,190 should do this as a podcast. Now. And I don't know if you if 1562 01:41:41,190 --> 01:41:45,180 you can ask this if you want to, but did you for at least a while 1563 01:41:45,180 --> 01:41:46,650 thing? We'll see. 1564 01:41:49,050 --> 01:41:51,390 Let me let me just pick up and give you a pleat, complete 1565 01:41:51,420 --> 01:41:57,210 honest answer to this question, one. I would never ask you to do 1566 01:41:57,210 --> 01:42:01,170 a show if you didn't ask me. Right. That goes there. I'm 1567 01:42:01,170 --> 01:42:05,190 good, man. I wish that's the ignorance. That would have been 1568 01:42:05,190 --> 01:42:09,690 done to me not to but that goes to the I'm good. Since like, 1569 01:42:10,500 --> 01:42:14,940 right? I never asked for help. A lot of things with the show. It 1570 01:42:14,940 --> 01:42:17,190 comes out of that. It's like, Man, I could I could do this. 1571 01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:18,120 No, no, you 1572 01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,910 actually came offering me help. You never asked me for anything. 1573 01:42:20,910 --> 01:42:23,190 You were telling me. You were giving me information. I was 1574 01:42:23,190 --> 01:42:24,570 asking you for stuff. 1575 01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:29,760 Right? So I'm just saying mess. That's how, you know, saying 1576 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,130 validate your place in life. And in the world. You're saying 1577 01:42:32,130 --> 01:42:36,930 like, I got this. I got this under control. Now you asked. In 1578 01:42:36,930 --> 01:42:40,350 the back of my mind, what do you mean, in the back of my mind? Do 1579 01:42:40,380 --> 01:42:41,940 I think you were just blowing smoke? 1580 01:42:42,329 --> 01:42:46,679 No, I mean, more than I was was I? I don't know. I'm just I'm 1581 01:42:46,679 --> 01:42:51,029 just curious. Not just, I mean, I mean, so did you at any point 1582 01:42:51,029 --> 01:42:53,609 feel? Oh, here's this white guy gonna help the black guy? 1583 01:42:54,449 --> 01:42:57,869 No. Okay. Good. I didn't. I didn't never think that I 1584 01:42:57,869 --> 01:42:58,439 thought, 1585 01:42:58,530 --> 01:43:02,130 but I can understand why when you talk about your programming, 1586 01:43:02,130 --> 01:43:05,190 and I'm, I'm hearing some of these things that wouldn't be 1587 01:43:05,220 --> 01:43:10,350 in. There you go, we've learned something. The things I think 1588 01:43:11,220 --> 01:43:16,260 you're thinking, because of a small difference in in us are 1589 01:43:16,260 --> 01:43:20,550 not the things you're thinking. And you're actually you're 1590 01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:23,550 actually pissed off or worried about? I'm not considering? 1591 01:43:24,390 --> 01:43:28,530 Yeah, and I'm going to ask you a question. Give you a scenario. 1592 01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:34,650 If you asked me to do that. Without me proving myself, then 1593 01:43:34,650 --> 01:43:37,530 I would have probably took that approach. But the fact that you 1594 01:43:37,530 --> 01:43:40,830 waited to see and you decided to work with me based off of my 1595 01:43:40,830 --> 01:43:45,210 ability and skills crossed my mind. Okay. Yeah, that's true. 1596 01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:47,790 That's true, because it would have been the first time it'd 1597 01:43:47,790 --> 01:43:50,250 been like, Oh, this is an outreach program or charity, 1598 01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:53,790 because I got, I got accused of that. I'm sure you did. Yeah. 1599 01:43:53,820 --> 01:43:56,100 But they don't understand the work that we did. You're saying 1600 01:43:56,100 --> 01:43:59,730 prior to it actually coming to the public? Correct? Correct. 1601 01:44:00,030 --> 01:44:04,980 That we both got to some understandings. So yeah, it's 1602 01:44:04,980 --> 01:44:09,330 the timing that you chose to use of saying, Hold on, let me wait. 1603 01:44:09,990 --> 01:44:13,290 Not even wait, but I'm asking this person because I've seen 1604 01:44:13,290 --> 01:44:18,270 that he's a valid. You know, he's capable of this. 1605 01:44:18,330 --> 01:44:20,670 I liked our conversations. I thought it would be fun to 1606 01:44:20,670 --> 01:44:21,210 record them. 1607 01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:25,770 Right, right. What y'all are witnessing is basically what we 1608 01:44:25,770 --> 01:44:28,380 would do. You're saying in general. 1609 01:44:30,660 --> 01:44:36,870 But this is my takeaway. Very important, actually. So the 1610 01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:40,710 stuff that people were worried about, and that of course, I 1611 01:44:40,710 --> 01:44:44,550 also had crossed my mind. It's not something at all that you 1612 01:44:44,580 --> 01:44:46,500 that you thought about even though of course, I had no 1613 01:44:46,500 --> 01:44:49,800 reason to think that because you're absolutely right. It was 1614 01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:52,680 I was only thinking of a show when I thought holy crap. You 1615 01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,800 were talking for an hour we should do an hour and record it. 1616 01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:59,340 You know, little did I know it was consumed like an entire day. 1617 01:45:01,230 --> 01:45:08,160 I'm just kidding. You know, and but still, that was what was 1618 01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:12,450 circling around. And you had no thoughts of that whatsoever. And 1619 01:45:12,450 --> 01:45:15,720 then, you know, I'm hearing today, of course, stuff I 1620 01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,300 understand it's universal, but stuff that I didn't know. 1621 01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:22,590 And that's, that's kind of what this show was about. Like I 1622 01:45:22,590 --> 01:45:26,340 said, this is more of a personal show. Because oftentimes, I make 1623 01:45:26,340 --> 01:45:29,190 the show about the content, whatever the story is in the 1624 01:45:29,190 --> 01:45:33,540 media, and just how I perceive it. But this is an inward look 1625 01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:37,050 to say what's going on outside and how it affects me 1626 01:45:37,050 --> 01:45:37,710 internally. You 1627 01:45:37,710 --> 01:45:42,180 didn't tell me that or us that you witnessed the no man about 1628 01:45:42,180 --> 01:45:46,680 the house when we did that show. Right? Why not? 1629 01:45:47,130 --> 01:45:50,490 Because it was more about the story, not me. Now, it's that's 1630 01:45:50,490 --> 01:45:54,930 why I say a lot of these clips. They're throwback clips, but 1631 01:45:54,930 --> 01:45:59,580 we're looking at their in meat internalizing or how it affected 1632 01:45:59,580 --> 01:46:04,290 me personally. Before it was about the the presentation, I 1633 01:46:04,290 --> 01:46:07,800 was trying to give them the topic. Got it. So it's, like I 1634 01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:10,980 said, this, I was a little leery about using throwback clips. 1635 01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:14,640 Because I want to make sure we always have fresh content. But 1636 01:46:14,700 --> 01:46:18,420 it needs you gotta remember, I grew up with to pot. Yep, you're 1637 01:46:18,420 --> 01:46:21,510 saying 92 hours? 1294? And 14? 1638 01:46:21,540 --> 01:46:24,840 No, you are you are consuming that shit. Like no one else's 1639 01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:25,470 business. 1640 01:46:25,590 --> 01:46:29,100 I was living it. Consume me, you're living? Right? I'm 1641 01:46:29,100 --> 01:46:32,640 actually because that means, of course, when you lose a teenager 1642 01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,460 by rockstars those kind of things, you know, saying, Hey, 1643 01:46:35,550 --> 01:46:39,570 you actually live it, you know? It because it has an impact on 1644 01:46:39,570 --> 01:46:44,760 you. But you know, we're living this mentality. So I'm just 1645 01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,880 going back and saying, This is what this is how these things 1646 01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:52,260 stack up, you know, and shaped me. And like I said, these next 1647 01:46:52,410 --> 01:46:55,950 three or four clips total. But these next three clips, is that 1648 01:46:55,950 --> 01:47:01,140 what shaped it shaped my mindset? via my father, but you 1649 01:47:01,140 --> 01:47:04,080 don't ask for help. You're saying you don't let nobody 1650 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:08,610 know, you know, you need help. You don't ask for charity. And 1651 01:47:08,610 --> 01:47:11,790 this is not exclusive to black because one of the famous scenes 1652 01:47:11,790 --> 01:47:15,600 in a awesome movie Cinderella Man, when he finally had to go 1653 01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:19,590 to the welfare office and get help. Once he got back on his 1654 01:47:19,590 --> 01:47:26,550 feet, he went and paid it back. So it's a it's a very old, 1655 01:47:26,580 --> 01:47:32,310 masculine mindset, um, that you don't take charity that you 1656 01:47:32,310 --> 01:47:36,270 don't take help. Not only no help lifting this, no, I got the 1657 01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:41,130 you don't ask for help. But what I'm saying to people is it's 1658 01:47:41,190 --> 01:47:45,090 okay to ask for help. Because of your feeling like I was feeling 1659 01:47:45,450 --> 01:47:48,210 and I gotta stop right now. You of course I thank you. You're 1660 01:47:48,210 --> 01:47:52,680 saying but I also got to give thanks to my man Eclass he's 1661 01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:58,770 been through this process with me through the whole thing. And 1662 01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:02,730 that's what kept me saying the conversations me and him having 1663 01:48:02,730 --> 01:48:06,240 you were saying behind the scenes? Ah, because 1664 01:48:07,350 --> 01:48:09,180 I know, I know is really important to you. 1665 01:48:09,630 --> 01:48:13,470 Yeah. Cuz we weren't at the same place. So he understands what I 1666 01:48:13,470 --> 01:48:16,260 had to go through to where I got, you know, and but at the 1667 01:48:16,260 --> 01:48:20,340 same time, he took the jump off the porch earlier than I did on 1668 01:48:20,340 --> 01:48:23,490 a being an entrepreneur. So now I can go to him ask him like, 1669 01:48:23,490 --> 01:48:26,820 okay, that kind of thing. So you never know how important your 1670 01:48:26,820 --> 01:48:32,460 brother is. And how important you know. They are to you. So I 1671 01:48:32,460 --> 01:48:36,330 got to stop now and just thank him as well. Like say we of 1672 01:48:36,330 --> 01:48:39,060 course we do this here publicly, but I just want to give him his 1673 01:48:39,390 --> 01:48:44,730 his flowers. Now he's living. He's living. Yeah. Because 1674 01:48:44,730 --> 01:48:49,650 that's a lot of times I'll be like, oh age like, man. I can't 1675 01:48:49,650 --> 01:48:54,150 believe a PvP will play with me. Right? Well, man, all right, cuz 1676 01:48:54,150 --> 01:48:57,060 you remind me like you reminded me. You're a free man your 1677 01:48:57,060 --> 01:49:01,920 future's bright in front of you. Oh, yeah. Right, but they upset 1678 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:08,160 my whole applecart. Yes, I was on the verge of buying another 1679 01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,440 property and all these other things and like they just kind 1680 01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:13,770 of this came in and like this kick during all that. So that's 1681 01:49:13,770 --> 01:49:15,990 what anger came from. But we can go and get to the second clip 1682 01:49:15,990 --> 01:49:16,230 now. 1683 01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:20,460 What big man I've seen my father have to put it where all kinds 1684 01:49:20,460 --> 01:49:24,330 of stuff. He was a big man. He raised the family. He went down 1685 01:49:24,330 --> 01:49:27,840 shop, and he had to go around to the back door with his wife. 1686 01:49:29,550 --> 01:49:32,610 without asking for anything, we're not asking for any favors. 1687 01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:37,620 All we want is what's ours. Now there are many blank veterans 1688 01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:42,090 who are coming back and they're mad, they're angry. Do you think 1689 01:49:42,090 --> 01:49:44,880 they're gonna sit down through this? Our fathers didn't have 1690 01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:49,620 the knowledge that we had. They sat through it. But there are 1691 01:49:49,620 --> 01:49:52,680 other black youth that are not going to sit through it. We know 1692 01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:57,600 about che we know about offenen we've read the books of our 1693 01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:01,500 revolution. We've listened to mounish quotations we know where 1694 01:50:01,500 --> 01:50:07,050 we stand. We're not going to sit form it. We're asking it if we 1695 01:50:07,050 --> 01:50:10,140 ask and we don't get we're prepared to stand up and take 1696 01:50:10,140 --> 01:50:15,540 it. If I ask a man, I tell a man, I am hungry. I tell him, 1697 01:50:15,540 --> 01:50:20,460 I'm cold. And I asked him to do something about my condition. 1698 01:50:21,210 --> 01:50:24,360 And this man holds a loaf of bread right in front of me, so I 1699 01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:28,140 can see it. And I keep asking him, I'm stalking him to please 1700 01:50:28,140 --> 01:50:32,490 give me a slice of the loaf of bread. I am hungry. Then it is 1701 01:50:32,490 --> 01:50:36,210 known by every psychologist that the next step in the progression 1702 01:50:36,210 --> 01:50:40,470 is I'm going to knock them upside take a break from I'm not 1703 01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:44,610 going to starve to death. Wow, 1704 01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:49,620 it's, it's really interesting. So the exact same example as to 1705 01:50:49,620 --> 01:50:53,310 POC but this guy also has the cadence and the kind of this 1706 01:50:53,340 --> 01:50:54,990 that sound of Kanye. 1707 01:50:55,980 --> 01:51:00,330 Yeah. Crazy. And you got to remember Kanye, his dad was a 1708 01:51:00,330 --> 01:51:03,810 member of the Black Panther. Yeah, yeah. And you heard what 1709 01:51:03,810 --> 01:51:08,040 to do say we read the books of Mao. Like, once you once 1710 01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:11,460 America, once we realize if you're, you're not gonna hold to 1711 01:51:11,460 --> 01:51:14,040 your word. That was the mindset there. 1712 01:51:14,070 --> 01:51:16,500 Yeah, yeah, we'll become commies. Yeah, 1713 01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:18,810 whatever. I mean, like, whatever, 1714 01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:20,370 we'll go with someone else. 1715 01:51:21,630 --> 01:51:25,320 It's like a product. If you buy a product and the brand and 1716 01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:29,160 start to fall off, you'll start to shop around looking for 1717 01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:33,720 another brand. Yep. And I'm just gonna say, This is a warning 1718 01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:37,470 flag. This is a this is not a, I'm not recruiting for Putin, 1719 01:51:37,890 --> 01:51:41,430 saying this is not what I'm doing. What I'm saying is, all 1720 01:51:41,430 --> 01:51:46,920 those people in the streets that are without jobs that are 1721 01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:50,130 saying, or without prospects without future back, that's 1722 01:51:50,130 --> 01:51:53,490 that's the main thing, the prospects, because you know, we 1723 01:51:53,490 --> 01:51:58,260 always can find another job, but when you ruin somebody's career, 1724 01:51:58,530 --> 01:52:01,500 because all it takes is one year, one blank year on your 1725 01:52:01,500 --> 01:52:07,050 resume, you're done. I mean, seriously, one gap year, let's 1726 01:52:07,050 --> 01:52:09,540 just say if I stopped working for a year, and you're saying I 1727 01:52:09,540 --> 01:52:13,860 had to go back and look for a job, I'm done. I'm telling 1728 01:52:13,860 --> 01:52:17,820 because like, what do you do for the year? Like, nobody wants 1729 01:52:17,820 --> 01:52:21,240 you. So we don't want you kind of mentality. Right. So this is 1730 01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:25,290 the kind of thing that's being played. And I'm glad you pointed 1731 01:52:25,290 --> 01:52:28,530 it out. Because he said the same thing to two pots. There is 1732 01:52:28,530 --> 01:52:31,620 plenty of food around us. We're seeing billionaires double their 1733 01:52:31,620 --> 01:52:37,470 wealth. Yep. And then we're seeing the bottom people saying, 1734 01:52:37,500 --> 01:52:40,170 I don't want to work. And I'm not saying bottom you're saying 1735 01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:43,470 in a derogatory way, but people to just say, You know what, I'll 1736 01:52:43,470 --> 01:52:47,430 just whatever you want to give me I'll take it. We're seeing 1737 01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:51,420 them be alright. So it's like, Wow, am I going to bust my tail? 1738 01:52:53,190 --> 01:52:55,200 Yes, that's not a good position. 1739 01:52:55,980 --> 01:53:00,120 Right. So um, and then Mike said, the way the corporation 1740 01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:03,660 held these things, oh, you know, saying like, basically waiting 1741 01:53:03,660 --> 01:53:07,320 people out starving them out. That's the other things like no 1742 01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:11,130 severance package. Like seriously. I mean, like, really, 1743 01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,640 this is how you feel about us. So now you understand the 1744 01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:17,010 distain. It's like, Oh, wow. Like, yeah, 1745 01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:24,600 no severance after 15 years. No insurance. Nothing Not even. Let 1746 01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:26,760 me go. Not even a personalized letter. 1747 01:53:27,150 --> 01:53:29,880 Not he gave me a form letter, not even hand signed. So you're 1748 01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:32,730 gonna, you're gonna say the best thing we think for you is to 1749 01:53:33,060 --> 01:53:35,220 leave you without a job and health insurance during the 1750 01:53:35,220 --> 01:53:38,100 World deadliest pandemic? That's that's your idea. 1751 01:53:40,050 --> 01:53:41,640 Sounds good to me, Bob. 1752 01:53:42,390 --> 01:53:47,190 Yeah, so that's the thing like, okay, so Alright, so but don't 1753 01:53:47,190 --> 01:53:52,350 come crying to me. Which shit hits the fan? Right? Compelling 1754 01:53:52,350 --> 01:53:55,650 you this is not this is not this is not what, but I'm not 1755 01:53:55,650 --> 01:53:59,730 confused, that they're confused. Exactly. This, this is what they 1756 01:53:59,730 --> 01:54:02,850 want to happen. So what now I got to look at and say, Hold on, 1757 01:54:03,090 --> 01:54:07,230 hold your horses don't take their bait. Just like we know, 1758 01:54:07,260 --> 01:54:09,780 they're trying to bait people into being getting kinetic, 1759 01:54:10,500 --> 01:54:14,370 taking your stance physical and him. And I have to warn of that 1760 01:54:14,370 --> 01:54:17,820 as well. So this is why I'm saying understand your anger, 1761 01:54:17,940 --> 01:54:21,390 understand the source of your anger. And it's not just the 1762 01:54:21,390 --> 01:54:25,740 mandate. A lot of people have lost their businesses. Due to 1763 01:54:25,740 --> 01:54:28,560 the shutdowns and those things of those nature. A lot of people 1764 01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:33,000 losing their businesses to the supply chain issues. From 1765 01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:37,020 destabilizing the workforce, when it can't find people that 1766 01:54:37,020 --> 01:54:40,230 can will are willing to work because the Gerson government 1767 01:54:40,260 --> 01:54:49,110 aka his daddy is is no basically supplementing the people not to 1768 01:54:49,110 --> 01:54:54,270 work is like stay at home. So all these things I know I'm not 1769 01:54:54,270 --> 01:54:57,510 confused. They're confused. So What are y'all really trying to 1770 01:54:57,510 --> 01:55:00,540 do this? That's my question. Like what are you really trying 1771 01:55:00,540 --> 01:55:08,880 to do it's a huge problem. But we can we can continue I want to 1772 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:10,200 go to a number three now. 1773 01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:15,180 All we're asking, no one wants to see let no one likes the 1774 01:55:15,180 --> 01:55:18,660 smell of blood. No one wants war. Anyone who has been in what 1775 01:55:18,660 --> 01:55:22,950 doesn't want war. Everyone knows what it is to see the inside of 1776 01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:27,180 a man's gut hanging out and see your friends die, see relatives 1777 01:55:27,180 --> 01:55:31,230 die. No one wants to regress back to the state of mind where 1778 01:55:31,230 --> 01:55:34,920 you have to think it's all for the cause. Therefore, my mother 1779 01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:38,610 has to die. My wife has to die. My brothers and sisters have to 1780 01:55:38,610 --> 01:55:44,130 die. No one wants that. But you're pushing us to it. You 1781 01:55:44,130 --> 01:55:47,520 leaving us no choice. We're asking what begging the students 1782 01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:51,150 have a Columbia they have the brothers down south as the 1783 01:55:51,150 --> 01:55:54,090 brothers in Latin America, the brothers on Africa, they're all 1784 01:55:54,090 --> 01:56:00,360 henskee only doing is asking our fathers and our grandfathers and 1785 01:56:01,260 --> 01:56:04,110 the presidents of our universities, all colleges had 1786 01:56:04,110 --> 01:56:07,260 to go to your bank doors to beg that their children be given 1787 01:56:07,260 --> 01:56:10,860 just enough money so that they can be taught. So they deliver. 1788 01:56:12,060 --> 01:56:16,350 And yet still asked and asked and asked and you refuse to give 1789 01:56:16,350 --> 01:56:22,230 him anything. We're just about out of patience. We're not going 1790 01:56:22,230 --> 01:56:22,710 to ask 1791 01:56:22,710 --> 01:56:29,160 anymore. And that's the whole point. We're just about out of 1792 01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:29,610 patience 1793 01:56:29,700 --> 01:56:31,350 in the 1960s. 1794 01:56:32,130 --> 01:56:39,180 Right. And like you said, my way like I said, the my father, I 1795 01:56:39,180 --> 01:56:43,500 seen the way this country you're saying dealt with him and my 1796 01:56:43,500 --> 01:56:49,350 grandfather. And I was that one generation post. A state 1797 01:56:49,380 --> 01:56:52,830 sponsored racism, Jim Crow, that kind of thing. I never saw a 1798 01:56:52,830 --> 01:56:55,770 water fountain with a bright color sign on it. My dad did. 1799 01:56:56,310 --> 01:57:02,190 His dad definitely did. So it's right. When you think like, I 1800 01:57:02,190 --> 01:57:04,800 own a godfather, right? When you think when you think you're out? 1801 01:57:04,830 --> 01:57:05,280 Yeah, they 1802 01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:06,330 suck you back in, 1803 01:57:06,390 --> 01:57:11,520 you pull me back in. Just in the end, like I said, I thought it 1804 01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:14,010 would always be I thought the racecar would give me good news, 1805 01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:19,200 who knew that that car would get me. And I can say that's, that's 1806 01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:26,160 a very morbid way to look at it. But that's the mentality that's 1807 01:57:26,850 --> 01:57:34,830 suppressed. You know, I have a wonderful light present. But at 1808 01:57:34,830 --> 01:57:38,130 the same time, it's like, you have in the back of your head, 1809 01:57:38,130 --> 01:57:43,620 like some some crap can go lift. They can go live, you know, it's 1810 01:57:43,620 --> 01:57:47,010 my time is is where you know, and then when I saw it, but 1811 01:57:47,010 --> 01:57:50,340 luckily enough, I was able to see it come in way off and 1812 01:57:50,370 --> 01:57:56,490 prepare myself appropriately. But if I didn't have that sixth 1813 01:57:56,490 --> 01:58:01,950 sense. Oh, so shenanigans about to go now. I could have easily 1814 01:58:01,950 --> 01:58:05,880 been in a far worse position. Say if I would have told you no, 1815 01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:09,090 I don't want to do a show. Adam, that's not really. It's not 1816 01:58:09,090 --> 01:58:12,150 really something I want to do. It was and then this happens? 1817 01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:16,590 Where does that leave me? You feel saying so? I thank you for 1818 01:58:16,590 --> 01:58:20,880 creating the Jireh podcast. And a lot of other people do as 1819 01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:24,810 well, I'm sure you're saying because now it's twofold. One, 1820 01:58:25,500 --> 01:58:28,470 it gives us outlet. And then two, it also gives the 1821 01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:32,310 opportunity to use and to earn as well. 1822 01:58:32,340 --> 01:58:36,900 Well, and and as a third is you're spreading information 1823 01:58:36,900 --> 01:58:45,360 that I have never found before in this format. So you're you're 1824 01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:52,080 helping people understand and it's it's benefiting the it's 1825 01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:56,910 benefiting the world. So this is this is this is to me. I mean, I 1826 01:58:56,910 --> 01:59:00,210 think you said the other day, we were talking about stuff, you 1827 01:59:00,210 --> 01:59:03,540 know, what happens if if you blow up and you got like $500 1828 01:59:03,540 --> 01:59:07,860 billion, and then you won't want to do the show? And I was like, 1829 01:59:08,250 --> 01:59:11,550 No, even if I had 500 million this show, I would still do. 1830 01:59:12,150 --> 01:59:15,510 This is the one. This is the one I think I would pretty much do 1831 01:59:15,540 --> 01:59:16,260 for sure. 1832 01:59:16,890 --> 01:59:20,640 Right. And I say you could have took that the wrong way. But you 1833 01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:24,480 see that was no more saying is you could have not seen you 1834 01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:28,680 would. But that was me saying waiting for the other shoe to 1835 01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:32,160 drop. Not you specifically. But that's the that's the engine. 1836 01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:39,450 Yeah. That's how we process information that if I can say 1837 01:59:39,450 --> 01:59:42,180 I've seen how this country did my father and my grandfather, 1838 01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:47,580 ah, and we had to talk about that another day. Right but, 1839 01:59:47,970 --> 01:59:50,970 but just so you know, when certainly when you're an 1840 01:59:50,970 --> 01:59:54,630 entrepreneur and when you're not, but even you know, I was 1841 01:59:54,630 --> 01:59:58,650 fired many times for the stupidest reasons for my actual 1842 01:59:58,650 --> 02:00:05,550 appearance. didn't want to cut my hair never for something that 1843 02:00:05,550 --> 02:00:12,570 I know that really, you know, they messed up. But in general I 1844 02:00:12,570 --> 02:00:15,720 know that that's what was promised you. And that just 1845 02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:19,140 doesn't adapt just that certainty is gone that that was 1846 02:00:19,140 --> 02:00:23,010 ripped up. That's clearly that's, you know, that's out but 1847 02:00:23,580 --> 02:00:28,740 let me tell you now that you're free and now that you are Yeah, 1848 02:00:28,740 --> 02:00:32,700 you got your head on straight you wish you always had a you're 1849 02:00:32,700 --> 02:00:36,450 a fighter. You're highly knowledgeable and intelligent, 1850 02:00:36,630 --> 02:00:41,400 man, we are happy to have you on our side with, you know, with 1851 02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:43,410 people who aren't going to despair. 1852 02:00:45,090 --> 02:00:49,020 Right. And that's the main thing like said, this is just me what 1853 02:00:49,020 --> 02:00:54,210 you're hearing with this show. Hopefully, people It translates 1854 02:00:54,210 --> 02:00:58,680 like, I hope it is. This is not Moby angry. And, you know, just 1855 02:00:58,710 --> 02:00:59,100 just 1856 02:00:59,579 --> 02:01:02,789 know that we're titling the show pissed off black man. I mean, 1857 02:01:02,789 --> 02:01:05,999 that's, that's what we're doing. Obviously, this otherwise, you 1858 02:01:05,999 --> 02:01:08,039 know, let's, let's, we would have put on the tin what's 1859 02:01:08,039 --> 02:01:08,729 inside? 1860 02:01:10,740 --> 02:01:15,270 But it's not. It's not that. I mean, angry. What I'm saying is, 1861 02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:23,790 you're seeing the process of the stimulus. And then going through 1862 02:01:23,790 --> 02:01:30,120 the whole anger process. Sure, hopefully on what why I felt 1863 02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:34,890 this way how I felt why I felt this way. Know what, what is 1864 02:01:34,980 --> 02:01:38,400 it's under the surface. It's not like I'm walking around the 1865 02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:45,030 house kicking, you know, stuff over there is a stewing effect. 1866 02:01:45,150 --> 02:01:50,850 Yeah, and what I'm saying is me there, as a country, and as a 1867 02:01:50,850 --> 02:01:56,850 world we're seeing is above the pots bubbling. You know, either 1868 02:01:56,850 --> 02:01:59,370 somebody had to turn down, take the pot off, or take the lid 1869 02:01:59,370 --> 02:02:02,460 off, something's gonna have to happen. Because if this pot 1870 02:02:02,460 --> 02:02:07,020 keeps boiling, is gonna get, you know, out of our control, and 1871 02:02:07,020 --> 02:02:09,150 what I mean, out of our control, I'm not talking about that, 1872 02:02:09,150 --> 02:02:11,700 because we can't control they their lizard, you're saying it 1873 02:02:11,700 --> 02:02:16,830 is what it is, um, what we have to do is one, not let them turn 1874 02:02:16,830 --> 02:02:22,680 us against each other racially, or across the pro choice, pro 1875 02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:25,590 choice argument of the round of vaccine, right? Because that's 1876 02:02:25,590 --> 02:02:28,260 what they hope to do is have the infighting cause infighting 1877 02:02:28,260 --> 02:02:32,160 amongst us, like in 1919, it's like, well, the immigrants don't 1878 02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:35,880 like the blacks and the whites don't like neither one of them 1879 02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:38,010 deal with the blacks and the blacks are saying that kind of 1880 02:02:38,010 --> 02:02:41,970 thing. So I'm trying to avoid that, because I see that's where 1881 02:02:41,970 --> 02:02:45,990 we're headed. And just to speak to that more, let's get into the 1882 02:02:45,990 --> 02:02:47,700 fourth and final clip of the segment. 1883 02:02:48,390 --> 02:02:51,450 The news media says that it's only the young that American 1884 02:02:51,450 --> 02:02:55,950 only the young that want this and want that, okay, we're 40% 1885 02:02:55,950 --> 02:03:00,900 of the black population now. Oh, we were a year ago and we're 1886 02:03:00,900 --> 02:03:05,190 climbing the following will be 50% 55%, then we'll have a 1887 02:03:05,190 --> 02:03:10,110 command. We're not going to take it we're not going to take 1888 02:03:10,170 --> 02:03:15,630 sitting in Latin parks and places that just aren't fit for 1889 02:03:15,630 --> 02:03:19,440 living when I've got to take it is the limit to a man's 1890 02:03:19,440 --> 02:03:24,540 patience. And everyone knows that. God Christ heaven, 1891 02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:29,100 everyone knows that what we're asking is not a million dollars, 1892 02:03:29,700 --> 02:03:34,860 although asking was humanity laughing to be allowed to live 1893 02:03:34,860 --> 02:03:40,170 like human beings? And God, you tell us that this is too much to 1894 02:03:40,170 --> 02:03:48,090 ask is sick? How can you tell me that it's too much to ask to be 1895 02:03:48,090 --> 02:03:49,170 a human being? 1896 02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:54,690 You know, just to make it even sicker. I just learned today, 1897 02:03:55,170 --> 02:03:59,010 you know, the Federal Reserve. There's this weird law that they 1898 02:04:00,180 --> 02:04:04,560 they can wait two years before publishing stuff they did. And 1899 02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:08,520 in 2009, we had the stimulus, which you know, we were told was 1900 02:04:08,550 --> 02:04:12,570 $876 billion, or close to a trillion dollars, it was 1901 02:04:12,630 --> 02:04:18,330 trillion, five, whatever it was. And after two years, the Federal 1902 02:04:18,330 --> 02:04:20,670 Reserve went to court and said no, no, we need it has to be a 1903 02:04:20,670 --> 02:04:26,400 total of 10 years we really we really just so this is not 2012 1904 02:04:26,970 --> 02:04:30,420 to now we really need another 10 years. We need more time to be 1905 02:04:30,420 --> 02:04:33,240 able to get all the information together and publish it. So this 1906 02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:37,290 just came out. Do you know what the number is of the money that 1907 02:04:37,290 --> 02:04:41,700 they created and gave to banks not just in America but 1908 02:04:41,700 --> 02:04:50,010 worldwide in 2010 2009 2.1 $29 trillion. 1909 02:04:54,420 --> 02:04:59,370 Now, when you hear that now must say you my first reaction to the 1910 02:04:59,370 --> 02:05:02,580 ratio program Hear me, which you can't do a told me. 1911 02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:08,730 Exactly that's that this is why I bring it up. The guy even said 1912 02:05:08,730 --> 02:05:13,470 when I asked for a million dollars now of course, this was, 1913 02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:18,030 you know this this screws, all Americans citizens around the 1914 02:05:18,030 --> 02:05:23,850 world actually screws everybody. But that audacity exactly what 1915 02:05:23,850 --> 02:05:28,680 you're saying this is there's your proof right there plenty of 1916 02:05:28,680 --> 02:05:35,550 money to do all that 30, almost $30 trillion. That's that's more 1917 02:05:35,550 --> 02:05:38,550 than our entire deficit and I think we just hit $30 trillion 1918 02:05:41,430 --> 02:05:45,930 as the known deficit, but there's no money for atonement 1919 02:05:46,050 --> 02:05:48,240 or anything or anything. 1920 02:05:48,690 --> 02:05:51,270 And before we get into this, we were 1921 02:05:51,270 --> 02:05:55,200 being robbed. We're being robbed blind. Right. 1922 02:05:55,230 --> 02:05:58,770 And that's the thing is like, that's what the analogy that 1923 02:05:58,770 --> 02:06:03,480 Tupac was saying, you know, that the money is here. You know, 1924 02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:06,510 they have the money is how they choose to spend it. Uh huh. 1925 02:06:06,540 --> 02:06:10,710 Because remember those shovel ready jobs when that money was 1926 02:06:10,710 --> 02:06:13,770 being handed out? Oh, yeah. shovel ready to mount you just 1927 02:06:13,770 --> 02:06:17,010 say almost $30 trillion. But now we have bridges falling down. 1928 02:06:18,540 --> 02:06:19,050 No, but that, 1929 02:06:19,170 --> 02:06:21,990 but that but that that's not even the money that that's the 1930 02:06:21,990 --> 02:06:25,950 secret money. That's the secret money we didn't even know about? 1931 02:06:26,130 --> 02:06:30,180 What I'm saying is but why in this country? Yeah, we have 1932 02:06:30,180 --> 02:06:33,630 bridges falling now when we've used grant through $30 trillion. 1933 02:06:34,110 --> 02:06:38,940 Oh, there you go. So at this time, you have people 1934 02:06:38,940 --> 02:06:41,070 complaining about schools and poor neighborhoods and those 1935 02:06:41,070 --> 02:06:44,130 kinds of things is being Hello Baltimore, right? Being 1936 02:06:44,130 --> 02:06:47,880 mysterious and deteriorated. And then it's like, see, it starts 1937 02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:51,390 with us? Well, your wife schools were in poor shape, those 1938 02:06:51,390 --> 02:06:52,410 breaches were getting even 1939 02:06:53,280 --> 02:06:56,610 accelerated. This is this is not even in fact, this, this show 1940 02:06:56,610 --> 02:06:58,710 won't even be about race in a year from now. 1941 02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:05,370 No. Point. As more they've pushed us in the same corner. 1942 02:07:06,750 --> 02:07:09,540 It'll be self evident. Like I said, this, this is bigger than 1943 02:07:09,540 --> 02:07:13,200 race. This show is not about race. It's about how we perceive 1944 02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:17,010 things differently due to the racial programming. But here's 1945 02:07:17,340 --> 02:07:21,630 what I mean by program is just the how you digest it and 1946 02:07:21,630 --> 02:07:24,150 interpreted Okay, but what this means but 1947 02:07:24,150 --> 02:07:29,670 the mistake, the mistake is by not by not hurting everybody 1948 02:07:29,700 --> 02:07:34,500 equally in the timeline, this show, and certainly we're not 1949 02:07:34,500 --> 02:07:38,400 the only ones are able to understand that this is what's 1950 02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:40,470 coming for everybody. 1951 02:07:41,250 --> 02:07:44,280 Right? We just the beta, which is the beta thing, like your 1952 02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:48,300 rollout, the rollout, like Jim Crow was just a beta test for 1953 02:07:48,300 --> 02:07:51,150 where we're at right now. It was just like, that's, 1954 02:07:51,180 --> 02:07:54,630 that's the t shirt. Jim Crow was a beta test. I kind of like 1955 02:07:54,630 --> 02:07:57,750 that. It of course we misinterpreted but, 1956 02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:01,050 of course, of course, it would be. But that's why I can see and 1957 02:08:01,050 --> 02:08:05,640 made the mean of the vaccine and water fountains. Yes, I can see 1958 02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:08,160 it coming. It's like, can you not see it? And that was over. 1959 02:08:08,700 --> 02:08:10,590 Almost two years ago, I think when I made that meme, or at 1960 02:08:10,590 --> 02:08:14,940 least the year close to but, um, with all that said, that ends 1961 02:08:14,940 --> 02:08:18,900 the first block of the show. And now we got to thank the people 1962 02:08:18,900 --> 02:08:21,360 that make this show possible that producers 1963 02:08:21,390 --> 02:08:25,110 Yeah, and and just because I felt we really did him justice 1964 02:08:25,110 --> 02:08:27,510 today will listen to Malcolm X, 1965 02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:30,990 the white man in the black man have to be able to sit down at 1966 02:08:30,990 --> 02:08:34,050 the same table, the white man has to feel free to speak his 1967 02:08:34,050 --> 02:08:36,870 mind without hurting the feelings about negro. And the so 1968 02:08:36,870 --> 02:08:40,080 called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting 1969 02:08:40,080 --> 02:08:42,870 the feeling of the white man, then they can bring the issues 1970 02:08:42,870 --> 02:08:45,300 that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an 1971 02:08:45,300 --> 02:08:47,820 intelligent approach to get the problem solved. What's the only 1972 02:08:47,820 --> 02:08:49,050 way we'll ever do it? 1973 02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:54,990 Well, I think it's obvious that now more than ever, this show 1974 02:08:54,990 --> 02:09:01,050 depends on your support, and is highly appreciated. And we do 1975 02:09:01,050 --> 02:09:03,390 have some executive and Associate Executive producers to 1976 02:09:03,390 --> 02:09:06,540 thank very nice showing certainly because we're two 1977 02:09:06,540 --> 02:09:10,020 weeks quick in succession. So very, very appreciative of that. 1978 02:09:10,980 --> 02:09:14,250 And I also have some booster grams that have some beautiful 1979 02:09:14,250 --> 02:09:18,210 amounts, but I'll do those separately. Just just to keep it 1980 02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:22,770 because it's it's a confusing amount of administration. First, 1981 02:09:22,770 --> 02:09:25,860 our executive producers are Well Steven page comes in with the 1982 02:09:25,860 --> 02:09:28,290 top amount so he totally deserves to be called our 1983 02:09:29,220 --> 02:09:33,450 shot Carla 20 blades on I am Paula big baller 1984 02:09:33,450 --> 02:09:38,880 for episode 75 And he has 175 dot 75 as his donation amount 1985 02:09:38,880 --> 02:09:41,070 and says Mo and Adam thank you for all the hard work that you 1986 02:09:41,070 --> 02:09:45,540 do. Plug for kratom batch kitchen tea custom blended tea 1987 02:09:46,170 --> 02:09:49,740 request I have a good base of people that enjoy the product. 1988 02:09:49,770 --> 02:09:54,420 Okay, so that's kratom batch kitchen tea custom blended tea. 1989 02:09:55,980 --> 02:10:03,330 Here is 175 75 175 for the 75th Episode marks 75 cents for the 1990 02:10:03,330 --> 02:10:07,590 75 threshold would like to do a mo meetup here in Chicago. Well 1991 02:10:07,590 --> 02:10:11,730 not in Cook County because of Max mask and Vax card mandates. 1992 02:10:12,060 --> 02:10:14,490 But let's see if we can hook that up. We may have to wait a 1993 02:10:14,490 --> 02:10:21,660 little bit until after the race riots or before the race riots, 1994 02:10:21,660 --> 02:10:22,020 yes. 1995 02:10:22,770 --> 02:10:26,610 But I want to say one thing. I am so happy that Steven got big 1996 02:10:26,610 --> 02:10:31,890 baller because he's been one of our day ones. And boots on the 1997 02:10:31,890 --> 02:10:35,670 ground Chicago with all he knows all the business about Chicago 1998 02:10:35,670 --> 02:10:39,030 politics, so I am happy to see him get this big baller. 1999 02:10:39,090 --> 02:10:42,480 Oh, and we're happy to see him and the support and the value 2000 02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:47,970 who gets to return it that way appreciated. Timothy Kato $150 2001 02:10:47,970 --> 02:10:50,670 from Timothy executive producer to keep the lights on and info 2002 02:10:50,670 --> 02:10:55,680 flowing much appreciated. Amy Molen 105 Hey mon Adam love the 2003 02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:59,160 show. I have a worn piece note to send at some point but I want 2004 02:10:59,160 --> 02:11:02,190 to celebrate most freedom and send support immediately. Please 2005 02:11:02,190 --> 02:11:05,520 play a mo karma for Moe and everyone else. Love and Light. 2006 02:11:07,560 --> 02:11:15,060 You've got beautiful Amy Thank you. One. Oh 1.01 from Kyle man, 2007 02:11:15,150 --> 02:11:18,180 who says he very much enjoyed listening to the show Duke Power 2008 02:11:18,180 --> 02:11:20,670 while driving across several states to visit my girlfriend 2009 02:11:20,670 --> 02:11:23,850 for the holidays. Especially having lived in Chapel Hill as a 2010 02:11:23,850 --> 02:11:27,180 transient for a few years and getting some more context on the 2011 02:11:27,180 --> 02:11:31,530 area's history and society. I love it when people love it. 2012 02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:38,400 $100 and executive producer ship for Marie en us Marie en en no 2013 02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:41,250 agenda social love your works. Are your former employers an 2014 02:11:41,250 --> 02:11:44,220 idiot. I hope this bittersweet moment is the beginning of a 2015 02:11:44,220 --> 02:11:51,270 1000 year mo facts dynasty. Oh, and hi to Adam. Excellent, thank 2016 02:11:51,270 --> 02:11:54,870 you. Much appreciated as certainly for the circumstances 2017 02:11:54,870 --> 02:11:58,350 keep it going Moe and Adam says John nunley with $100 donation. 2018 02:11:58,560 --> 02:12:01,140 Lindsey Jarrett with 100 just listened to the most recent 2019 02:12:01,140 --> 02:12:04,710 podcast, you are a man of principle. Hope this will help 2020 02:12:04,710 --> 02:12:07,380 you out looking forward to what you will create with your future 2021 02:12:07,380 --> 02:12:11,550 attention on Creative Matters. Wishing you all the best. Also 2022 02:12:11,550 --> 02:12:15,750 very, very nice. No thank you, Lindsay and another $100 for 2023 02:12:15,750 --> 02:12:22,140 Miguel, SB now. And Miguel says just cause $100 Thank you. Those 2024 02:12:22,140 --> 02:12:24,720 are the executive producers now we have our Associate Executive 2025 02:12:24,720 --> 02:12:32,820 Producers farine Barwani 8484 Do your MO and Adam thank you for 2026 02:12:32,820 --> 02:12:38,220 your courage please dead beat us. Foreign and fish fanatic. 2027 02:12:38,310 --> 02:12:39,090 Happy to do 2028 02:12:40,950 --> 02:12:45,930 congratulation. You're no longer a deadbeat 2029 02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:50,730 and also asking for a oh boy hadn't even considered that one. 2030 02:12:53,160 --> 02:12:54,330 This is such a glossy 2031 02:12:55,080 --> 02:12:59,010 we might even need our own Yeah, we do need karma over here. 2032 02:12:59,040 --> 02:13:02,880 I guess we do need our own mo facts jobs karma for each angle 2033 02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:08,310 makers out there. Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 2034 02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:22,080 You've got 7777 from Thomas balmy day Dale, Oregon. A more 2035 02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:25,020 Adam, my mom and I've been listening since episode one 2036 02:13:25,020 --> 02:13:28,260 great job you both do on these eye opening spell breaking 2037 02:13:28,260 --> 02:13:31,950 episodes. I would like to D deadbeat and I also have a mo 2038 02:13:31,950 --> 02:13:33,510 karma. deadbeat. 2039 02:13:33,750 --> 02:13:39,150 Congratulation. You're no longer a dead bee and lo 2040 02:13:39,150 --> 02:13:43,950 and behold another request for jobs, jobs jobs. Seven is the 2041 02:13:43,950 --> 02:13:48,810 number for completion in the Bible. Hence seven y'all stay 2042 02:13:48,810 --> 02:13:54,780 blessed from bond Divya. Is that how we deviant Oh Bandy wow what 2043 02:13:54,780 --> 02:13:58,320 somehow I took that immediately to be like a European thing like 2044 02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:02,670 oh, this is someone from Europe. Maybe his band even showed up on 2045 02:14:02,670 --> 02:14:03,540 the last tapes. 2046 02:14:04,020 --> 02:14:09,510 Oh, he's heavy in all my FX products so beautiful. That's 2047 02:14:09,510 --> 02:14:10,500 why I recognize that name. 2048 02:14:10,530 --> 02:14:18,780 Oh, no extra jobs jobs. A special one. 2049 02:14:24,300 --> 02:14:30,270 Steven Schnell kurz $75 Thanks he says ag Bennett 5555 Thank 2050 02:14:30,270 --> 02:14:32,640 you for your courage mon Adam. I've been listening since the 2051 02:14:32,640 --> 02:14:34,770 beginning and thoroughly enjoying the content you share 2052 02:14:34,770 --> 02:14:37,650 please give a boost out to yourself and the rest of the 2053 02:14:37,650 --> 02:14:38,760 facts fam. 2054 02:14:46,890 --> 02:14:50,400 Associate Executive Producer for Lindsay Heitman $50 Love you 2055 02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:54,180 guys keep it up. That's DC girl. PS come to a meet up mo drinks 2056 02:14:54,180 --> 02:14:57,690 on me. She is kind of next door in DC. 2057 02:14:57,870 --> 02:15:00,990 Yes she is and see she's awesome. Oh heavy in the live 2058 02:15:00,990 --> 02:15:05,760 chat and excellent on the pollifax family now as 2059 02:15:05,970 --> 02:15:11,070 DC grills everywhere is everywhere. Yeah, not a spook. 2060 02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:17,520 Vance, Kochi, a coach a $50. Mo and Adam thank you when you come 2061 02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:20,040 up with the family plan I'll send the rest of whatever you 2062 02:15:20,040 --> 02:15:23,790 need to call me uncle mainframe, sir mainframe with no agenda. I 2063 02:15:23,790 --> 02:15:27,270 appreciate all I'm learning from your show. All right. He wants 2064 02:15:27,270 --> 02:15:32,220 to Uncle mainframe. This is gonna be good. I like like the 2065 02:15:32,220 --> 02:15:33,960 SAM. SAM Concert 2066 02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:37,020 Hall of Fame. Like the Hall of Fame. I'm producing that segment 2067 02:15:37,020 --> 02:15:40,200 now. Okay, and we'll have it rolled out shortly but I didn't 2068 02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:43,260 want to make sure it was be fitting other people joining the 2069 02:15:43,260 --> 02:15:47,760 fam. So um, it'll be a next show or two. I'll have it rolled out. 2070 02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:51,240 So you can be uncle mainframe. But I think the family name is 2071 02:15:51,240 --> 02:15:56,880 gonna be cool to to see what what family titled they say. 2072 02:15:57,570 --> 02:16:04,170 Okay, yes. And who's working on this? I am. Oh, my goodness. 2073 02:16:04,170 --> 02:16:08,460 Okay, well, very good. Beautiful vans. Thank you very much. 2074 02:16:08,640 --> 02:16:12,000 Vanessa Hamlin $50 says hey, Mo just heard the news about the 2075 02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:15,060 job needed to let you know immediately that mo facts fam 2076 02:16:15,060 --> 02:16:17,580 are here for you and want to make sure you can keep doing 2077 02:16:17,580 --> 02:16:20,760 what you're doing now that you are a free man. Peace and love 2078 02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:24,540 from your neighbor in Virginia. I live in Woodbridge, Vanessa s. 2079 02:16:25,170 --> 02:16:30,000 Nice. Marcus Hazzard our final Associate Executive Producer for 2080 02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:34,710 episode number 75 $50. I went to get my car's oil change at the 2081 02:16:34,710 --> 02:16:37,860 end of the service. I thank the young man for the great job well 2082 02:16:37,860 --> 02:16:41,010 done. He then looked at me with a warm smile in his face and 2083 02:16:41,010 --> 02:16:44,370 said, No problemo. It was at this moment, I knew I had to 2084 02:16:44,370 --> 02:16:48,480 send in a donation to mo fax. Not my first donation. But I'd 2085 02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:51,570 like a D dead beating a biscuit for my fiance's birthday on 2086 02:16:51,570 --> 02:16:56,730 February 4, and that phone chirp thing Oh crap. Now the next the 2087 02:16:56,730 --> 02:17:02,580 next. Nice folks it is now I have the next cell chirp that he 2088 02:17:02,580 --> 02:17:07,140 wants a biscuit and a D dead beating. Okay, we can do all 2089 02:17:07,140 --> 02:17:07,290 this. 2090 02:17:09,210 --> 02:17:14,100 Congratulations, you're no longer a dead bee. 2091 02:17:14,130 --> 02:17:21,420 They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Then I want to run 2092 02:17:21,420 --> 02:17:24,840 through some booster grams real quick, another another great, 2093 02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:29,610 great way to support the work that Moe is doing is by getting 2094 02:17:29,610 --> 02:17:33,780 a modern podcast app. Also, if anyone decides to remove this 2095 02:17:33,780 --> 02:17:36,630 show, you can't get D platformed. You'll also get up 2096 02:17:36,630 --> 02:17:39,900 to the update when you're on podcast in 2.0. The update is 2097 02:17:39,900 --> 02:17:44,070 within under less than 60 seconds of when we when we 2098 02:17:44,070 --> 02:17:47,430 publish it. And then of course, there's all the additional stuff 2099 02:17:47,430 --> 02:17:51,060 that Dred Scott does with the chapter art and we have 2100 02:17:51,060 --> 02:17:55,440 transcripts and you can also send us donations with Bitcoin 2101 02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:57,840 with the Lightning Network is kind of like a Venmo for 2102 02:17:57,840 --> 02:18:01,920 Bitcoin. And let's see we kick it off, and this of course, will 2103 02:18:01,920 --> 02:18:06,990 be an executive producer ship for Brian Masih, who sent us a 2104 02:18:06,990 --> 02:18:12,930 row of ducks. Now that's a whole bunch of TOS in Satoshis. But 2105 02:18:12,930 --> 02:18:18,360 the dollar amount is $151.11. That's a lot of ducks. That's a 2106 02:18:19,050 --> 02:18:26,490 lot of ducks. Abel Kirby also sent us booster gram $34. We had 2107 02:18:26,520 --> 02:18:35,100 Carl Watson with $34 and Harv hot with a 39. And Abel Kirby 2108 02:18:35,100 --> 02:18:39,810 said love the show, Carl Watson said in case he boosted this 2109 02:18:39,810 --> 02:18:42,000 amount in case it didn't work, which it didn't. So I'm glad you 2110 02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:47,130 read it. And then hardhat says Miss y'all, and a couple of the 2111 02:18:47,130 --> 02:18:50,160 a lot of anonymous and just boosts we appreciate those but 2112 02:18:50,160 --> 02:18:53,460 for people who send in a sizable note and donation and send the 2113 02:18:53,460 --> 02:18:56,940 note we'd love to read those and you can get an A new podcast app 2114 02:18:56,940 --> 02:19:00,780 at new podcast apps.com or support the show directly 2115 02:19:00,780 --> 02:19:05,310 through PayPal Cash App, all different ways mo fax comm go 2116 02:19:05,310 --> 02:19:09,900 directly to the donation page at mo fund me.com easy way to 2117 02:19:09,900 --> 02:19:13,980 remember it. Whatever you do remember that this is the only 2118 02:19:13,980 --> 02:19:17,790 way the show can sustain and we can keep on doing it and we can 2119 02:19:17,790 --> 02:19:22,020 all keep on enjoying the work that Moe is really putting in 2120 02:19:22,020 --> 02:19:25,530 here. Thanks again for producing and being execs and associate 2121 02:19:25,530 --> 02:19:27,630 execs of episode number 75. 2122 02:19:30,810 --> 02:19:33,750 Yeah, cuz if not many My only other formal process is to buy a 2123 02:19:33,750 --> 02:19:34,860 big rig. So 2124 02:19:38,910 --> 02:19:40,590 get your cowboy hat to it'll look 2125 02:19:41,939 --> 02:19:46,979 good. Yeah, and I like to say we have not had a boost big baller 2126 02:19:46,979 --> 02:19:47,339 yet. 2127 02:19:47,579 --> 02:19:49,049 So not yet now bright. 2128 02:19:50,460 --> 02:19:51,270 Spot the spots 2129 02:19:51,690 --> 02:19:55,560 by Brian moss. He came very close. He did. Almost was a 2130 02:19:55,560 --> 02:20:00,630 scandal there, sir. So now we're getting into the state karyotype 2131 02:20:00,630 --> 02:20:05,610 behind black men anger, dis Oh, this is gonna just kind of 2132 02:20:05,610 --> 02:20:08,820 examine that. Wow, wow, the stereotype is the way it is. And 2133 02:20:08,820 --> 02:20:11,160 let's just go ahead and get into clip 21 Do you 2134 02:20:11,160 --> 02:20:15,660 most Americans are really very fair minded egalitarian people 2135 02:20:15,660 --> 02:20:20,280 we believe in in equality for all races, all genders. The 2136 02:20:20,280 --> 02:20:23,340 challenge is that while our conscious selves are 2137 02:20:23,340 --> 02:20:27,150 egalitarian, we still hold these unconscious, or somewhat 2138 02:20:27,150 --> 02:20:31,530 implicit biases that have been primed in us over many years, 2139 02:20:31,560 --> 02:20:34,950 largely through media. And culture. One of those 2140 02:20:34,950 --> 02:20:38,310 stereotypes is we equate black men with fear. 2141 02:20:45,180 --> 02:20:48,360 When race drops into a conversation, our executive 2142 02:20:48,360 --> 02:20:53,250 brain shut down on both sides. So if you are a white American 2143 02:20:53,250 --> 02:20:57,450 who is, you know, a very fair minded person, race is presented 2144 02:20:57,450 --> 02:21:02,520 to you, your brain will start to wonder, you know, is what I'm 2145 02:21:02,520 --> 02:21:06,810 about to say next, going to be perceived by the other person as 2146 02:21:06,810 --> 02:21:10,560 racist or biased? And if you are of color, your brain likewise 2147 02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:14,610 shuts down, right? It says, okay, is something about to come 2148 02:21:14,610 --> 02:21:17,400 at me, that might be an opportunity to invalidate my 2149 02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:20,010 life experience, both of your brains are going into fight or 2150 02:21:20,010 --> 02:21:23,070 flight mode. It's just not a recipe for a meaningful, honest 2151 02:21:23,070 --> 02:21:25,890 dialogue around something that's so critical and so important. 2152 02:21:27,090 --> 02:21:32,820 Well, there you go. Exactly what this show is it combats is 2153 02:21:32,820 --> 02:21:34,080 exactly that problem. 2154 02:21:34,620 --> 02:21:37,770 And then, but the opposite of what we do would be the lizard 2155 02:21:37,770 --> 02:21:40,740 brain. Yeah. Because they want you to get into the flight fight 2156 02:21:40,770 --> 02:21:44,310 or flight mode. Yep. The amygdala. Yeah. So that's the 2157 02:21:44,310 --> 02:21:47,670 whole point is, they don't want us sitting down and having a 2158 02:21:47,670 --> 02:21:51,180 conversation like we do, because that defeats the lizard brain. 2159 02:21:51,390 --> 02:21:56,160 And now and that their way of thinking. So I brought I brought 2160 02:21:56,160 --> 02:22:01,620 this up one, as you heard that the anger thing is scary. You 2161 02:22:01,620 --> 02:22:05,250 know, if you're a if you're angry, black man, that's a scary 2162 02:22:05,250 --> 02:22:07,890 thing. Yeah. Give us the link. Go back to like I said, when I'm 2163 02:22:07,890 --> 02:22:10,620 at you, okay, Mo, everything all right, Mo, he was saying when 2164 02:22:10,620 --> 02:22:15,120 I'm sitting here thinking, and I have my thinking scowl, or is my 2165 02:22:15,120 --> 02:22:19,470 wife to say get those knots out of your head? You know, you have 2166 02:22:19,470 --> 02:22:22,380 that those lumps in your forehead when you're thinking. 2167 02:22:23,220 --> 02:22:26,400 So if something conscious that you had to be, there's something 2168 02:22:26,400 --> 02:22:28,920 that you had to be conscious about, excuse me, and I want to 2169 02:22:28,920 --> 02:22:32,580 make an observation, just observation. If you notice, 2170 02:22:34,560 --> 02:22:38,280 celebrity, I mean, I'm not celebrity popular people on the 2171 02:22:38,280 --> 02:22:42,420 conservative side, there are black men typically have to 2172 02:22:42,420 --> 02:22:47,130 smile a lot. I've noticed this, and I'm just saying, I just 2173 02:22:47,130 --> 02:22:52,050 noticed it, because I'll explain why. The Democrats are the left 2174 02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:57,270 they weaponize black anger. And they say we're this is this is 2175 02:22:57,270 --> 02:22:59,880 the Democrats play. And I want to this goes back to the last 2176 02:22:59,880 --> 02:23:03,180 show again. So black people when they're facing black people, 2177 02:23:03,480 --> 02:23:05,880 they say we're the only thing keeping them from lynching you. 2178 02:23:06,660 --> 02:23:10,500 Right? That's their play. Right? So they need black people to 2179 02:23:10,590 --> 02:23:14,400 appear angry so they could turn around to the white sector. And 2180 02:23:14,400 --> 02:23:17,850 say, we're the only thing keeping them under control. And 2181 02:23:17,850 --> 02:23:21,300 not going off at Terry everything go. Now, back to my 2182 02:23:21,300 --> 02:23:26,130 point about the conservative smiling that this smile, kind of 2183 02:23:26,130 --> 02:23:29,850 like says I'm safe. I'm okay. I'm not interested. I'm not 2184 02:23:29,880 --> 02:23:34,500 angling. And it's not just in politics. It's in you're saying 2185 02:23:34,530 --> 02:23:39,300 in fields of work as well. But I just noticed this thing. And 2186 02:23:39,300 --> 02:23:45,990 Larry elders is one of them. Not saying no, for his smell. No 2187 02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:47,430 kidding. Yes. Right. 2188 02:23:48,030 --> 02:23:50,910 So that's, I was wondering what your example would be I was 2189 02:23:50,910 --> 02:23:52,980 thinking about that Larry elder is good one. 2190 02:23:53,339 --> 02:23:55,799 But the fact that they're you have already pre thinking about 2191 02:23:55,799 --> 02:24:00,209 that lets people know, I'm safe. And I'm not saying he purposely 2192 02:24:00,209 --> 02:24:02,729 does. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm just saying is 2193 02:24:02,729 --> 02:24:06,419 for optics purse purposes it politically, the left wants you 2194 02:24:06,419 --> 02:24:11,309 angry. So they could promote that essay. We're the only thing 2195 02:24:11,309 --> 02:24:14,339 that can control them. Yeah. And they have a story for both 2196 02:24:14,339 --> 02:24:17,909 sides. Right. Right. So I just want to say you're saying that 2197 02:24:17,909 --> 02:24:23,699 that that stereotype of me angry is very pervasive. Because I 2198 02:24:23,699 --> 02:24:27,449 don't know why Black anger is more potent or seems to be or 2199 02:24:27,449 --> 02:24:30,479 the narrative around it is more potent or dangerous than any 2200 02:24:30,479 --> 02:24:31,049 other. 2201 02:24:32,580 --> 02:24:36,750 Long, long, long period of programming. 2202 02:24:37,380 --> 02:24:46,320 Yes. Well, I've lived this and it's crazy because you're 2203 02:24:46,320 --> 02:24:52,800 conscious not to smile too much. Not to be taken silly. But then 2204 02:24:52,830 --> 02:24:58,500 also not to be frail too much to be seen as Millison. 2205 02:24:58,740 --> 02:25:01,380 That sounds this sounds real. be tiring it 2206 02:25:01,380 --> 02:25:08,070 is. If you're conscious of it, now, once you break through to 2207 02:25:08,070 --> 02:25:11,190 the other side of you don't give a rat's ass, right. But when 2208 02:25:11,190 --> 02:25:17,400 you're living in the paradigm, or in the duality of, Am I Am I 2209 02:25:17,400 --> 02:25:21,150 a nice guy? That kind of thing you know. And that's another 2210 02:25:21,150 --> 02:25:25,050 form of you're different. You're saying that's another form of 2211 02:25:25,050 --> 02:25:28,110 it. We talked about last show. If you're always smiling and 2212 02:25:28,110 --> 02:25:30,750 nice and fun and that kind of thing, or you're different. 2213 02:25:30,990 --> 02:25:35,280 It's very interesting that this mirrors or parallels, in many 2214 02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:40,860 ways, the life of a celebrity. I know it's a twisted comparison. 2215 02:25:40,890 --> 02:25:43,680 No, no, no, you're right. But they're trapped. They're trapped 2216 02:25:43,680 --> 02:25:48,420 by it. And I've witnessed this to some minor degree myself. I 2217 02:25:48,420 --> 02:25:52,950 was held hostage by my hair, as an example. But you're trapped. 2218 02:25:52,950 --> 02:25:57,090 And you certainly can't be seen, you know, when you scout boom 2219 02:25:57,090 --> 02:25:59,400 cover of National Enquirer, huh. 2220 02:26:00,180 --> 02:26:04,530 And I'm glad you made that point, because it just sparked a 2221 02:26:04,530 --> 02:26:09,780 thought in my mind. Notice when Kanye when he's caught smiling, 2222 02:26:10,980 --> 02:26:15,480 he goes, it's actually a meme of him doing this, that he's caught 2223 02:26:15,480 --> 02:26:18,180 smiling a basketball game or something. And then he just goes 2224 02:26:18,180 --> 02:26:19,890 blank face, like a stern look on his 2225 02:26:19,890 --> 02:26:21,420 face, like bright, bright. 2226 02:26:22,860 --> 02:26:26,940 So it's cusses you want to be taken seriously, but then you 2227 02:26:26,940 --> 02:26:31,380 don't want to be perceived as angry. Right? It's a weird, it's 2228 02:26:31,380 --> 02:26:34,260 a weird spot, if if you subscribe to that way of 2229 02:26:34,260 --> 02:26:38,520 thinking, but it's baked into your programming across all your 2230 02:26:38,520 --> 02:26:42,240 years of going through public schools and everybody for 2231 02:26:42,240 --> 02:26:47,040 everybody involved, right? Not to, you know, and goes back to 2232 02:26:47,040 --> 02:26:50,040 lynching, because you will be conditioned, not in these times 2233 02:26:50,040 --> 02:26:53,940 more per se, but like men that raised us, we're conditioned, 2234 02:26:53,940 --> 02:26:56,460 it's like, we don't want to come off as angry. You don't want to 2235 02:26:56,460 --> 02:26:59,430 come out, you know, that kind of thing. So the conditioning is 2236 02:26:59,430 --> 02:27:02,130 there, you know, just you know, just lighten up, lighten up, you 2237 02:27:02,130 --> 02:27:05,100 know, that kind of thing. So, I just want to point that out. So 2238 02:27:05,100 --> 02:27:09,780 now speaking of anger, one of the most famous angry movie 2239 02:27:09,780 --> 02:27:20,250 clips is from network. No, one you did just, I want to do this. 2240 02:27:20,850 --> 02:27:23,040 I think I want to do it this way. Let's go just go ahead and 2241 02:27:23,040 --> 02:27:25,470 go to Network. Are you familiar with that movie? 2242 02:27:25,590 --> 02:27:29,040 It's one of my most favorite movies ever. Are you kidding me? 2243 02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:31,770 This right up there with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? 2244 02:27:32,010 --> 02:27:35,010 I wish one knew it. Oh, no. The old Of course. 2245 02:27:38,220 --> 02:27:41,460 My anger not insult me mo do not know. So. 2246 02:27:43,230 --> 02:27:45,540 That was a piece of crap that second went on and what they 2247 02:27:45,570 --> 02:27:48,000 were but Charlie and Charlie, Charlie and the Chocolate 2248 02:27:48,000 --> 02:27:52,560 Factory? Yeah, he's one of my favorite movies as well. But 2249 02:27:52,560 --> 02:27:54,900 yeah, let's just go ahead and do it in the switch or let's get 2250 02:27:54,900 --> 02:27:58,080 into 23. First, this is network. And I'll Mattis Hill. 2251 02:27:59,430 --> 02:28:02,280 I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things 2252 02:28:02,280 --> 02:28:06,750 are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work, or 2253 02:28:06,750 --> 02:28:11,100 scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickels worth. 2254 02:28:11,340 --> 02:28:14,130 Banks are going bust. shopkeepers keep a gun under the 2255 02:28:14,130 --> 02:28:17,190 counter. punks are running wild in the streets. There's nobody 2256 02:28:17,190 --> 02:28:21,060 anywhere seems to know what to do. And there's no end to it. We 2257 02:28:21,060 --> 02:28:25,860 know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat. We 2258 02:28:25,860 --> 02:28:29,130 sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that 2259 02:28:29,130 --> 02:28:33,270 today we had 15 homicides and 63 violent crimes as if that's the 2260 02:28:33,270 --> 02:28:36,720 way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad worse than bad. 2261 02:28:37,110 --> 02:28:39,510 They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going 2262 02:28:39,510 --> 02:28:42,510 crazy. So we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house. 2263 02:28:42,510 --> 02:28:44,880 And slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller. 2264 02:28:44,880 --> 02:28:47,820 And all we say is please at least leave us alone in our 2265 02:28:47,820 --> 02:28:51,150 living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel 2266 02:28:51,150 --> 02:28:53,940 belted radios and I won't say anything, just leave us alone. 2267 02:28:54,060 --> 02:28:58,710 Well, I'm not going to leave you alone. I want you to get back. I 2268 02:28:58,710 --> 02:29:00,930 don't want you to protest. I don't want you to write I don't 2269 02:29:00,930 --> 02:29:02,760 want you to write to your congressman, because I wouldn't 2270 02:29:02,760 --> 02:29:05,220 know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about 2271 02:29:05,220 --> 02:29:07,890 the depression and the inflation and the Russians and that crime 2272 02:29:07,890 --> 02:29:12,840 in the street. All I know is that first you got to say I'm a 2273 02:29:12,840 --> 02:29:22,290 human being God dammit. My life has value. So I want you to get 2274 02:29:22,290 --> 02:29:27,720 up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want 2275 02:29:27,720 --> 02:29:32,490 you to get up right now. And go to the window. Open it and stick 2276 02:29:32,490 --> 02:29:36,870 your head out and yell. I was mad as hell. And I am not going 2277 02:29:36,870 --> 02:29:38,010 to take this anymore. 2278 02:29:42,300 --> 02:29:46,500 So yeah, so obviously you would think he was talking about 2022 2279 02:29:47,640 --> 02:29:50,370 I loved it even had the Russians in there. That was great. 2280 02:29:50,970 --> 02:29:57,510 And it had the um, the body count. Like yes, yeah, you're 2281 02:29:57,510 --> 02:29:57,840 right. 2282 02:29:57,840 --> 02:29:58,740 You're right. You're right. 2283 02:29:58,980 --> 02:30:04,830 It's like certain people shot. So others killed. So so this is 2284 02:30:04,830 --> 02:30:05,520 where 2285 02:30:05,580 --> 02:30:08,880 and of course, there's the beautiful, beautiful meeting 2286 02:30:08,880 --> 02:30:12,990 that Howard Beale has with the with the guy, they with the 2287 02:30:12,990 --> 02:30:16,500 representative of they up in the boardroom and he has that whole 2288 02:30:16,500 --> 02:30:19,170 speech speech as well. It's like you have no idea what you're 2289 02:30:19,170 --> 02:30:22,470 doing. Stupid man, this is not how the world works, 2290 02:30:23,100 --> 02:30:26,640 right? But he was fed up. And this is kind of like how angry 2291 02:30:26,640 --> 02:30:31,350 we could be good. Because anger could push you to action, if you 2292 02:30:31,350 --> 02:30:35,040 channel it correctly. So first, I just want to identify that we 2293 02:30:35,040 --> 02:30:38,100 are angry. That was kind of like the first part of the show and 2294 02:30:38,100 --> 02:30:42,690 given for me personally, where the anger comes from, and how 2295 02:30:42,690 --> 02:30:46,290 was perceived through a certain lens. But now is this like, what 2296 02:30:46,290 --> 02:30:49,380 do you do with the anger once you have it? Right? Because, you 2297 02:30:49,380 --> 02:30:52,050 know, it's anger is not one of the things like I just make it 2298 02:30:52,050 --> 02:30:54,420 go away, you know, because coming from a place of being 2299 02:30:54,420 --> 02:30:59,670 frustrated, or no uncertainty or those kinds of things. So, um, 2300 02:31:00,180 --> 02:31:03,780 another person was angry was Christ in the Bible, as well as 2301 02:31:03,780 --> 02:31:07,650 other members in the Bible, but I've heard about being a 2302 02:31:07,650 --> 02:31:11,490 believer, I wanted to get into what they call either righteous 2303 02:31:11,520 --> 02:31:15,390 indignation, or either righteous anger, we can get into 22. 2304 02:31:15,780 --> 02:31:19,500 So I think we first have to realize that there can be 2305 02:31:19,500 --> 02:31:22,920 righteous anger and then be unrighteous kind of anger. In 2306 02:31:22,920 --> 02:31:26,130 the end, how do you know the difference? Certainly, I think 2307 02:31:26,160 --> 02:31:32,910 anger means it's, it's a strong feeling that we have. And we, we 2308 02:31:32,910 --> 02:31:36,540 want to have be angry at the right the right things and not 2309 02:31:36,540 --> 02:31:41,520 be angry with the wrong things. And so if we're angry, because 2310 02:31:41,550 --> 02:31:46,860 this is some value of God, we're concerned about his glory, then 2311 02:31:46,860 --> 02:31:50,040 that's the time that we can be angry, and we have righteous 2312 02:31:50,040 --> 02:31:55,140 anger. But if we're just angry about petty things, things that 2313 02:31:55,140 --> 02:31:59,580 relate to ourselves that we can't get our way, then those 2314 02:31:59,580 --> 02:32:04,980 are the wrong kinds of anger. I think we also can look at it 2315 02:32:05,010 --> 02:32:09,510 from constructive and destructive kind of thing, that 2316 02:32:09,750 --> 02:32:13,650 constructive anger would be focused on the problem, for 2317 02:32:13,650 --> 02:32:17,970 instance, whereas destructive anger is just letting your 2318 02:32:17,970 --> 02:32:21,660 emotions out and yelling at somebody and that type of thing. 2319 02:32:21,840 --> 02:32:24,720 And you just focus on the person instead of the problem. 2320 02:32:28,110 --> 02:32:33,090 So this is talking about the righteous anger. And another 2321 02:32:33,090 --> 02:32:38,370 source of my anger is just the overall impact of everything 2322 02:32:38,370 --> 02:32:44,880 that's going on right now. To young black men, specifically, 2323 02:32:45,420 --> 02:32:49,980 can I look at myself and say, Hold on, if I was going through 2324 02:32:49,980 --> 02:32:56,070 this, now, at the exit, say I was in my 20s, early 20s. 2325 02:32:57,390 --> 02:32:58,500 Yeah, how would you feel? 2326 02:32:58,830 --> 02:33:02,490 What would it be like? Yeah, cuz I'm seeing guys, too, the same 2327 02:33:02,490 --> 02:33:08,070 path I took. Some of them are homeless. I mean, like, cuz, I 2328 02:33:08,070 --> 02:33:10,980 mean, you work your way up. So the years that you were in 2329 02:33:10,980 --> 02:33:13,770 college and that kind of thing, you're working, you know, 2330 02:33:13,770 --> 02:33:16,920 warehouse jobs, and that kind of thing, where we could maybe get 2331 02:33:16,920 --> 02:33:20,520 roommates to three roommates and survive. That's not even 2332 02:33:20,520 --> 02:33:24,750 possible now. Yeah. So that's another source of my anger. Just 2333 02:33:25,380 --> 02:33:30,300 that's kind of the macro anger of how society's being played 2334 02:33:30,300 --> 02:33:34,440 with and the impact of it and I understand as steam become more 2335 02:33:34,440 --> 02:33:38,310 and more pressurized those that reason why I played this clip 2336 02:33:38,310 --> 02:33:41,490 the order I did, the way we talked about this body count 2337 02:33:41,490 --> 02:33:49,680 Chicago that's a source of this. This young men that don't know 2338 02:33:49,680 --> 02:33:53,910 how to channel their anger, sure, or place their anger. And 2339 02:33:53,910 --> 02:33:56,280 what do you do that causes personally you to patient you, 2340 02:33:56,280 --> 02:34:03,780 all you you, it comes out. And people are using this anger and 2341 02:34:03,780 --> 02:34:08,340 frustration for political purposes? Yes, that's that third 2342 02:34:08,340 --> 02:34:12,510 wave, we always talk about, yep. What gives what makes the person 2343 02:34:12,510 --> 02:34:16,410 go out and want to loot and steal and that kind of thing. 2344 02:34:16,680 --> 02:34:19,770 Instead, they get given up on society, and they feel like 2345 02:34:19,770 --> 02:34:25,440 society has given up on them. So this is just more of another 2346 02:34:25,440 --> 02:34:29,220 source. When I take it once I go through the process, okay, okay. 2347 02:34:29,790 --> 02:34:31,980 You know, say I'm gonna be alright, bright future ahead of 2348 02:34:31,980 --> 02:34:35,850 me. Things may be a little bumpy, but you're saying I least 2349 02:34:35,850 --> 02:34:41,730 got a runway and you're saying you're in aviation. So I just 2350 02:34:41,730 --> 02:34:45,780 got to get the plane going fast enough to make it with the 2351 02:34:45,780 --> 02:34:49,110 runway I have. I mean, that's, that's my challenge. But at 2352 02:34:49,110 --> 02:34:52,530 least I have, at least I have a runway. A lot of these young 2353 02:34:52,530 --> 02:34:56,490 men, they don't have that and they just been thrust into this 2354 02:34:57,690 --> 02:35:03,540 new world. And how do you cut How do you cope with it? Um, and 2355 02:35:03,540 --> 02:35:06,180 I don't think in the fact that, like, sad is being weaponized 2356 02:35:06,180 --> 02:35:09,540 and utilized to push political motors, that really makes me 2357 02:35:09,540 --> 02:35:11,370 angry. Like, that makes me 2358 02:35:11,460 --> 02:35:14,670 that makes all Americans angry, or at least if they know it 2359 02:35:14,670 --> 02:35:15,150 should, 2360 02:35:15,870 --> 02:35:19,260 right? It should, because a lot of these people didn't ask for 2361 02:35:19,260 --> 02:35:25,620 this, um, he just the world changed under them. And I don't 2362 02:35:25,620 --> 02:35:27,870 think as a nation, that should be the, that should be the 2363 02:35:27,870 --> 02:35:31,200 process. And then you'd say like weaponizing immigration and 2364 02:35:31,200 --> 02:35:33,720 those kinds of things, is just gonna pressure out of the 2365 02:35:33,720 --> 02:35:36,330 situation. And then we blame them, like, look at how they 2366 02:35:36,330 --> 02:35:42,330 kill themselves in Chicago, it's like, Have you ever been in a 2367 02:35:42,330 --> 02:35:46,200 situation like that? If you can't, if you haven't been, you 2368 02:35:46,200 --> 02:35:50,100 don't understand. And I've only been adjacent to a situation 2369 02:35:50,100 --> 02:35:53,370 like that, but I can definitely understand, cuz it's like this, 2370 02:35:53,370 --> 02:35:57,000 I'm gonna be honest with you, a podcast, don't worry, if the job 2371 02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:00,660 don't work, and whatever is don't work. I gotta get how I 2372 02:36:00,660 --> 02:36:05,100 get it. By that that hasn't last left me, you are saying now that 2373 02:36:05,100 --> 02:36:08,250 could be working with my hands working with my bank or wherever 2374 02:36:08,250 --> 02:36:12,690 else entails. Because at the end of the day, a man got IP this 2375 02:36:12,690 --> 02:36:17,850 family, of course. So I can't like I don't empathize what 2376 02:36:17,850 --> 02:36:20,190 people are saying I had to go get it. The way to get it now is 2377 02:36:20,220 --> 02:36:23,760 other options, of course. But you only know what you know, is 2378 02:36:23,760 --> 02:36:24,120 well, 2379 02:36:24,989 --> 02:36:30,089 it's what's interesting is, you know, for years, I've lived in 2380 02:36:30,089 --> 02:36:33,029 the back of my mind, I mean, really, if Pay Pal pulls the 2381 02:36:33,029 --> 02:36:37,439 plug, for some reason, I got a problem. I got a real problem. 2382 02:36:37,679 --> 02:36:41,009 You know, there's that problem. Yes, of course, there's all of 2383 02:36:41,009 --> 02:36:44,429 these. There's all of the I mean, there's solutions. But 2384 02:36:45,509 --> 02:36:49,049 again, you just start to look at a problem say okay, at least 2385 02:36:49,049 --> 02:36:52,169 have a solution. And if not, there's a solution there and a 2386 02:36:52,169 --> 02:36:56,399 solution there and a solution that that is also inherently 2387 02:36:56,399 --> 02:37:01,799 American. We are, we do have some born in if not 2388 02:37:01,829 --> 02:37:04,619 entrepreneurialism, ourselves, we have respect for it. 2389 02:37:07,980 --> 02:37:12,390 beaten out of you? Yeah. Oh, yes. Or no, your entrepreneurial 2390 02:37:12,420 --> 02:37:20,640 ism is a is native to humans. Yes, it's beat of out of us. 2391 02:37:21,120 --> 02:37:28,530 Point years of school of form dependency. If I owe that scary, 2392 02:37:28,530 --> 02:37:32,970 go make your own money. That's scary. You know, what you think 2393 02:37:32,970 --> 02:37:36,720 you can take care yourself. And then when you factor in, like I 2394 02:37:36,720 --> 02:37:40,830 said, with insurance, that's the end. That's the deal breaker. 2395 02:37:41,010 --> 02:37:45,450 And I must say to Republican Party, you might want to think 2396 02:37:45,450 --> 02:37:50,100 about looking at reshaping healthcare. I've know they've 2397 02:37:50,130 --> 02:37:55,020 they've dug in on this and sure, for financial reasons. But 2398 02:37:55,290 --> 02:37:59,850 whoever figures out this healthcare situation, is gonna 2399 02:37:59,850 --> 02:38:05,760 have a loyal following. Because that's the really that's the one 2400 02:38:05,760 --> 02:38:08,010 thing that keeps people from betting on ourselves. 2401 02:38:09,960 --> 02:38:12,690 Yes, well, good luck with that. 2402 02:38:14,070 --> 02:38:17,520 I'm sorry, this is just like the black vote, you know, the the 2403 02:38:17,520 --> 02:38:21,810 the healthcare refix vote, whoever fix that they're gonna 2404 02:38:21,810 --> 02:38:24,540 have they're gonna it's gonna it could be a huge opportunity for 2405 02:38:24,540 --> 02:38:28,170 you. The insurance company has rigged and they pay both sides. 2406 02:38:29,370 --> 02:38:33,600 It's way beyond that Mo. Healthcare is Wall Street done. 2407 02:38:33,660 --> 02:38:36,000 That's it. You don't need to know much more. It's Wall 2408 02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:40,770 Street. It's bullshit. There's it's shenanigans, and it's deep, 2409 02:38:40,830 --> 02:38:44,310 and it's not simple to fix. So people will fix health care 2410 02:38:44,340 --> 02:38:47,430 outside of health care individually, it'll be a lot 2411 02:38:47,430 --> 02:38:50,880 cheaper. You'll be able to get most of what you need. 2412 02:38:51,749 --> 02:38:55,079 And I was just about to say that is that whoever presents the 2413 02:38:55,079 --> 02:38:57,869 opportunity to say you know we can offer health care for a 2414 02:38:57,869 --> 02:38:58,769 reasonable price 2415 02:38:58,800 --> 02:39:01,470 Yeah, that's gonna happen. I guarantee you that's gonna 2416 02:39:01,470 --> 02:39:02,640 happen. Now 2417 02:39:02,670 --> 02:39:06,240 they'll they'll have a loyal loyal following. Yeah, so I'll 2418 02:39:06,240 --> 02:39:09,990 just keep pushing it that but it just like I said, it doesn't 2419 02:39:09,990 --> 02:39:13,380 make any sense how they hold you captive. But let's go ahead and 2420 02:39:13,380 --> 02:39:16,620 get into another throwback clip from Kanye because Kanye is kind 2421 02:39:16,620 --> 02:39:21,270 of like a running theme in this Yeah. Because he's the epitome 2422 02:39:21,990 --> 02:39:25,320 of betting on yourself. I mean, he has an album called college 2423 02:39:25,320 --> 02:39:29,100 dropout. Yeah, don't let that be lost on you because he saw early 2424 02:39:29,100 --> 02:39:33,780 on and I wish I had that clip I'll put in last tapes are 2425 02:39:33,780 --> 02:39:36,960 basically saying you know, you go your life to get a degree. 2426 02:39:37,980 --> 02:39:43,440 And like the guy basically this this the punch line is his son 2427 02:39:43,470 --> 02:39:49,530 inherits his degrees right. So uh, so he's been a big proponent 2428 02:39:49,530 --> 02:39:52,860 of betting on yourself so that's why I use a lot of him in this 2429 02:39:54,270 --> 02:39:57,120 in this show, so let's go ahead and get into 23 A. 2430 02:39:57,300 --> 02:40:01,440 Another thing is like this idea of like apologizing apologize 2431 02:40:01,440 --> 02:40:05,280 for saying George Bush don't apologize for running on stage 2432 02:40:05,280 --> 02:40:09,570 we tend to apologize for wearing the wrong color. A apologize now 2433 02:40:09,570 --> 02:40:13,170 you're dealing with grandpa. I've been through too much. I'm 2434 02:40:13,320 --> 02:40:16,980 I'm the founder of $3 billion company. He took off in a listen 2435 02:40:16,980 --> 02:40:22,410 to somebody on line. Tell me who else wants to apologize for? Do 2436 02:40:22,410 --> 02:40:26,100 you feel like it since you did get there? 2437 02:40:26,130 --> 02:40:30,870 Do you feel any other pressures when people say Kanye didn't let 2438 02:40:30,870 --> 02:40:33,780 them down? When we think about George Bush don't care about 2439 02:40:33,780 --> 02:40:36,030 black people. That's when everybody was like all Kanye. 2440 02:40:36,300 --> 02:40:40,140 And then when we look at Kanye now, I mean if we if we agree or 2441 02:40:40,140 --> 02:40:43,500 not agree with you? Just when we when you say the wrong color 2442 02:40:43,500 --> 02:40:43,890 hat? 2443 02:40:44,580 --> 02:40:47,400 Yeah, think about this for a hat. This is one of my main 2444 02:40:47,400 --> 02:40:51,330 things like what is the culture? It's like, Man, this thing for 2445 02:40:51,330 --> 02:40:55,560 the culture we're doing for the culture. We are orphans, bro. We 2446 02:40:55,560 --> 02:41:00,060 are culture LIS we don't have our own culture. We signed to 2447 02:41:00,060 --> 02:41:03,840 culture vultures. We signed our life away our contracts the 2448 02:41:03,840 --> 02:41:06,240 culture, vultures, think about everything that's cultural. 2449 02:41:06,750 --> 02:41:11,100 Taking a knee is cultural. Being on social media is cultural, 2450 02:41:11,310 --> 02:41:14,010 wearing high fashion is cultural, push in a foreign is 2451 02:41:14,010 --> 02:41:18,690 cultural. All these things are not owned by our culture. So who 2452 02:41:18,690 --> 02:41:22,470 designed the culture? What does it mean? To do it for the 2453 02:41:22,470 --> 02:41:25,260 culture? That's why I do it for Christ 2454 02:41:26,280 --> 02:41:32,250 is one thing that about Kanye? He didn't do the I'm alright 2455 02:41:32,250 --> 02:41:36,180 man, when he really wasn't all right. He I think he even went 2456 02:41:36,180 --> 02:41:39,090 to Diddy and said, Hey, I need some money. Donald Trump give me 2457 02:41:39,090 --> 02:41:42,120 money. Anybody Invest in me, I got something going here. And he 2458 02:41:42,120 --> 02:41:45,780 was right. But I kind of remember that is not a not a 2459 02:41:45,780 --> 02:41:48,240 moment of Kanye saying I'm okay. 2460 02:41:49,290 --> 02:41:52,530 Well, I think he did it all the way up. And when I mean, he did 2461 02:41:52,530 --> 02:41:56,100 it. Let me clarify what I mean. I think he played the role of 2462 02:41:56,100 --> 02:41:59,790 I'm all right, I'm okay, up until it started affecting his 2463 02:41:59,790 --> 02:42:03,600 mental health. And then he understood, I'm going to need 2464 02:42:03,600 --> 02:42:06,420 help. Right. And that's, like I said, this goes back to the 2465 02:42:06,420 --> 02:42:11,160 charity thing. The last thing any man wants to? And if this is 2466 02:42:11,160 --> 02:42:18,780 general to me, is to ask for help. Um, I don't know. It's 2467 02:42:18,780 --> 02:42:21,930 just I don't know why. I don't know why that is. I don't know 2468 02:42:21,930 --> 02:42:25,470 if it's hard baked into, you know, our gender 2469 02:42:25,470 --> 02:42:28,620 role, right. But what's interesting is Kanye had 2470 02:42:28,620 --> 02:42:31,500 financial trouble, he asked for help. Then he asked, he 2471 02:42:31,530 --> 02:42:34,860 literally openly said, I need help. I got a mental problem. 2472 02:42:35,130 --> 02:42:37,590 And they excoriated him for it for everything he 2473 02:42:37,590 --> 02:42:40,710 did. He did both of those at the same time, because he tried to 2474 02:42:40,710 --> 02:42:44,610 play, he tried to go along to get a loan. But when he did 2475 02:42:44,610 --> 02:42:48,720 that, it's a new, it's a new day America speech at the law 2476 02:42:48,720 --> 02:42:52,170 concert. That was the point I'm not just giving that was grandpa 2477 02:42:52,170 --> 02:42:54,840 talking. Right? Like, that's the point. And that's the point of 2478 02:42:54,840 --> 02:42:59,040 it. Like, like, honestly, I don't like I don't give a rat's 2479 02:42:59,040 --> 02:43:02,160 anymore. You know, I'm saying like, not about life, but just, 2480 02:43:03,120 --> 02:43:06,930 I'm betting on me. And this is this is the part of the 2481 02:43:06,930 --> 02:43:11,460 developing the free mind, is that you block out all the 2482 02:43:11,460 --> 02:43:14,820 things I said before the shame, of admitting that you're saying 2483 02:43:14,820 --> 02:43:17,910 that you're betting on yourself, and you're taking a less secure 2484 02:43:17,910 --> 02:43:24,690 route to success. Um, because at the end of the day, I had to 2485 02:43:24,690 --> 02:43:28,800 live with myself, I have to look the 50 and 60 year old mo in the 2486 02:43:28,800 --> 02:43:33,630 mirror and say, Did I leave all my own Austin own on the table? 2487 02:43:34,020 --> 02:43:38,040 Did I bet everything on myself. And I think that's what kind of 2488 02:43:38,040 --> 02:43:40,770 what kind he probably went through because he, he really 2489 02:43:40,770 --> 02:43:45,480 wanted the media's except accepting him. That was the 2490 02:43:45,480 --> 02:43:48,900 whole point of running on the stage. You didn't give me my 2491 02:43:48,900 --> 02:43:52,770 wars that I want. It's like, I'm a genius, but you won't 2492 02:43:52,770 --> 02:43:56,220 recognize it. Then he realized that dim one and I'm just 2493 02:43:56,220 --> 02:43:59,700 speaking from me watching Kanye very closely, but just watching 2494 02:43:59,700 --> 02:44:04,650 from outside. It was to the point where I don't let you 2495 02:44:04,650 --> 02:44:08,700 validate me anymore. Your rewards don't validate me 2496 02:44:08,700 --> 02:44:14,580 anymore. But it had to come to almost costing him his mental 2497 02:44:14,580 --> 02:44:22,860 health. Yeah. Which is really the underlying whole point of 2498 02:44:22,860 --> 02:44:30,660 this episode is one, man. Take a look at your mental health. 2499 02:44:31,290 --> 02:44:33,900 Because it's going to manifest in your physical health as well. 2500 02:44:34,500 --> 02:44:38,610 Um, and don't feel like you're alone. And if you feel like when 2501 02:44:38,610 --> 02:44:41,820 your brothers is, is being isolated, reach out to him, pick 2502 02:44:41,820 --> 02:44:44,490 up the phone, not say he's alright. He's good. You know, 2503 02:44:44,520 --> 02:44:48,330 um, pick up the phone and give him a call and say you good, 2504 02:44:48,360 --> 02:44:51,270 bro. You're saying that kind of just that kind of thing. You 2505 02:44:51,270 --> 02:44:55,680 might even be surprised what effect that would have because 2506 02:44:56,040 --> 02:45:00,000 we're going to get into our dark portion of the show here and I 2507 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:04,110 promise there's a light at the end of the tunnel. I'll promise 2508 02:45:04,110 --> 02:45:07,320 you. So don't think we're going morbid here. But we have to talk 2509 02:45:07,320 --> 02:45:09,240 about suicide and black men. 2510 02:45:10,590 --> 02:45:13,050 I had a very informative interview with Dr. Joanne 2511 02:45:13,050 --> 02:45:17,040 Frederick about the science of suicide along with prevention 2512 02:45:17,040 --> 02:45:20,580 just moments ago. And yeah, you got to pick up on some of those 2513 02:45:20,580 --> 02:45:25,560 signs, you got to pay attention a lot, Shannon, because this is 2514 02:45:25,680 --> 02:45:28,530 just comes out of nowhere. Sometimes you just see people 2515 02:45:28,530 --> 02:45:31,200 who are full of life, and sometimes the happiest people. 2516 02:45:31,260 --> 02:45:34,410 And that's what I always say, check on your strongest friends. 2517 02:45:34,710 --> 02:45:37,230 Because sometimes your strongest friends are the ones that need 2518 02:45:37,230 --> 02:45:41,010 the most help. I was one of those guys that always put on 2519 02:45:41,010 --> 02:45:44,880 this strong facade, always happy always trying to make everybody 2520 02:45:44,880 --> 02:45:48,000 else happy. Meanwhile, I'm suffering the sound and so you 2521 02:45:48,000 --> 02:45:51,270 never know who could be dealing with somebody. So always just 2522 02:45:51,270 --> 02:45:54,540 check on and say, Man, you okay, everything good. Even when you 2523 02:45:54,540 --> 02:45:58,830 think they're happy. Still check on your friends. Make sure you 2524 02:45:58,830 --> 02:46:00,090 do that. And your family members. 2525 02:46:01,860 --> 02:46:06,270 Yeah. So this, this is the strongest, strongest one. So I'm 2526 02:46:06,270 --> 02:46:08,940 gonna go back to kayak for a minute because he had a line and 2527 02:46:08,940 --> 02:46:13,020 song called gorgeous. And he said, If they ever saw black me, 2528 02:46:13,020 --> 02:46:17,460 they probably try to crack me. So just going back to the mental 2529 02:46:17,460 --> 02:46:23,400 programming and the racial programming, that this is a term 2530 02:46:23,400 --> 02:46:27,780 called unapologetically black. Have you ever heard that? Sure. 2531 02:46:28,140 --> 02:46:33,780 So this also plays into that respectability politics. Oh, si 2532 02:46:33,810 --> 02:46:39,540 si respectability policies is a way of than weaponizing. You 2533 02:46:39,540 --> 02:46:42,510 deciding what's acceptable or not. And they make it about 2534 02:46:42,510 --> 02:46:49,680 frivolous and trivial things. Like your hair, or Sure, Tarkin 2535 02:46:49,680 --> 02:46:53,670 are this kind of silly stuff. Where it's really about is 2536 02:46:53,670 --> 02:47:00,390 finding that sweet spot where you can be you. And society is 2537 02:47:00,420 --> 02:47:04,830 okay with being you being you like Kanye, my before he was a 2538 02:47:04,860 --> 02:47:09,150 hall, he was this, he was bad, you know, all these things. And 2539 02:47:09,150 --> 02:47:12,720 so he found that sweet spot to say, You know what, I love 2540 02:47:12,720 --> 02:47:19,140 myself, I'm happy with myself. And until you find that mental 2541 02:47:19,140 --> 02:47:20,940 health is a real concern. 2542 02:47:22,530 --> 02:47:25,620 Most people don't find that, unfortunately, until much later 2543 02:47:25,620 --> 02:47:28,170 in life, can be lucky if they're lucky. 2544 02:47:28,830 --> 02:47:32,700 And some not fine at all. And it can definitely have a cascading 2545 02:47:32,700 --> 02:47:39,660 effect on life. Because then you start seeing things. And what I 2546 02:47:39,660 --> 02:47:43,560 mean by that is, you will see something happened. And in what 2547 02:47:43,560 --> 02:47:45,990 shape this is where this is where that ratio programming 2548 02:47:45,990 --> 02:47:49,200 gets very dangerous. Because everything that happens to me 2549 02:47:49,200 --> 02:47:51,600 due to my race, everything that happened because I'm black, 2550 02:47:51,630 --> 02:47:54,060 right, you know, everything that happened me, you know, he could 2551 02:47:54,120 --> 02:47:58,320 kinda eat Kaya could have easily went that way. And a lot of us 2552 02:47:58,320 --> 02:48:01,200 easily could go that way. You know, like, this has happened to 2553 02:48:01,200 --> 02:48:05,790 me because of who I am. And then you make it personal. It's like, 2554 02:48:05,790 --> 02:48:10,110 well, I can't change me. So do you get a doom and gloom going 2555 02:48:10,110 --> 02:48:17,310 on. And that then you find yourself in a dark place. And I 2556 02:48:17,310 --> 02:48:20,820 want to make a point here about suicide. And I want to ask you a 2557 02:48:20,820 --> 02:48:26,730 question. Have you ever heard or is that perception that suicide 2558 02:48:26,730 --> 02:48:31,860 is not a black thing? Um 2559 02:48:35,520 --> 02:48:40,470 Gosh, that's a let's put it this way. 2560 02:48:43,110 --> 02:48:45,480 It's not a spot black. No, 2561 02:48:45,510 --> 02:48:49,380 no, black suicide is typically not the way Black Death is 2562 02:48:49,380 --> 02:48:53,700 portrayed on television ever. Whether it's the news or 2563 02:48:53,700 --> 02:48:59,130 fiction. Hmm, so so for that reason, I would have to say, 2564 02:48:59,820 --> 02:49:04,590 yeah, it's not a thing. But not like black people. Swimming is 2565 02:49:04,590 --> 02:49:05,220 not a thing. 2566 02:49:06,120 --> 02:49:11,100 Right? Let me give you a context we're seeing with the suicide 2567 02:49:11,130 --> 02:49:15,180 myth, because the numbers are growing every day. And it's 2568 02:49:15,180 --> 02:49:21,300 young black men that are that are harming themselves. But the 2569 02:49:21,300 --> 02:49:25,380 typical suicide method that we see you're saying in our 2570 02:49:25,380 --> 02:49:29,130 community, quote, unquote community is the long road to 2571 02:49:29,130 --> 02:49:37,080 death. The unhealthy eating the alcohol, the drug abuse, that 2572 02:49:37,080 --> 02:49:41,460 kind of thing. Eating I'm serious, like eating is a long 2573 02:49:41,460 --> 02:49:45,150 road to suicide. Sure, we all know what we're supposed to eat 2574 02:49:45,150 --> 02:49:47,100 and what we're not supposed to eat, but if you don't enjoy your 2575 02:49:47,100 --> 02:49:50,550 life, what the hell of dying young what is that? Yes, that's 2576 02:49:50,550 --> 02:49:54,630 more on my plate. That kind of thing where it was gonna get me 2577 02:49:54,660 --> 02:49:58,770 whatever it is that morbid. You know, if it's gonna get me it's 2578 02:49:58,770 --> 02:50:04,170 gonna get me kind of in cuz Life ain't enjoyable anyway. So or in 2579 02:50:04,170 --> 02:50:07,830 the bottle. A lot of a lot of people drink themselves to 2580 02:50:07,830 --> 02:50:12,240 death. Now you weren't classified as a classic suicide. 2581 02:50:13,050 --> 02:50:16,560 But it's the same mentality they're sure not want to drink 2582 02:50:16,560 --> 02:50:19,260 myself into harm and then drug is stiff. It's mandatory. 2583 02:50:19,679 --> 02:50:24,689 It's it's nihilist. It's, it's taking hold amongst young people 2584 02:50:24,689 --> 02:50:29,189 everywhere. But sounds like this is of course, once again, not 2585 02:50:29,189 --> 02:50:29,879 reported. 2586 02:50:30,930 --> 02:50:36,090 Of course not. And, like I say, older people used to have this 2587 02:50:36,120 --> 02:50:40,980 or when you get middle aged. Ah, and this is touching on a lot of 2588 02:50:40,980 --> 02:50:45,120 shows I'm gonna cover later. But one thing that I'm going to tell 2589 02:50:45,120 --> 02:50:47,970 you now Adam, one thing that dawned on me when I started 2590 02:50:47,970 --> 02:50:54,060 working with you, is 40 is not Oh, I mean, that in the most 2591 02:50:54,060 --> 02:50:57,960 respectful way becomes playing I'm explaining to you why. Once 2592 02:50:57,960 --> 02:51:04,320 you're past your physical prom, as a black man, life's over your 2593 02:51:04,320 --> 02:51:11,010 own now. It's time to athletics, you know, notice all heroes 2594 02:51:11,010 --> 02:51:14,400 athletic course and understand entertainers, those kind of 2595 02:51:14,400 --> 02:51:17,820 things. So if you notice, there's no and a lot of actors 2596 02:51:17,820 --> 02:51:24,600 get into this situation. There's no middle aged black actors. 2597 02:51:25,140 --> 02:51:27,990 Either they're young and they play young roles, or even they 2598 02:51:27,990 --> 02:51:31,620 go to the Morgan Freeman kind of thing, right? And I wish I had 2599 02:51:31,620 --> 02:51:34,170 this clip with Dimmesdale said this, because there was a 2600 02:51:34,170 --> 02:51:38,370 reporter kept talking about, you know, you know, the past she 2601 02:51:38,370 --> 02:51:40,290 kept bringing out his past accomplishments and those kinds 2602 02:51:40,290 --> 02:51:44,130 of things. And he got hurt by it because he's like, let's talk 2603 02:51:44,130 --> 02:51:48,480 about now because he understood if I let you pigeonhole me as an 2604 02:51:48,510 --> 02:51:50,070 old man Yeah, I 2605 02:51:50,070 --> 02:51:53,550 remember that. I think I've seen that one. Me and Morgan Freeman 2606 02:51:53,550 --> 02:51:58,200 are gonna be competing for oh, yeah, right. There's there's no 2607 02:51:58,740 --> 02:52:01,410 I'm trying to think like the like the middle aged actors are 2608 02:52:01,410 --> 02:52:03,960 saying white counterparts there's always roles for them. 2609 02:52:04,380 --> 02:52:07,740 But you're saying are there's always rows written for them? 2610 02:52:09,360 --> 02:52:17,280 But there's not in our in our case, because once you get past 2611 02:52:17,280 --> 02:52:18,450 40 year old when 2612 02:52:18,450 --> 02:52:23,340 I actually the the middle age actor, black man is the 2613 02:52:23,340 --> 02:52:32,130 overweight police chief. Yeah the one 2614 02:52:32,160 --> 02:52:36,360 that's the one is amazed that you say you put out these these 2615 02:52:36,360 --> 02:52:40,020 memes because you see it. I'm gonna give you a perfect 2616 02:52:40,020 --> 02:52:43,560 example. Ah, the guy from the office, Stanley. 2617 02:52:44,130 --> 02:52:48,870 Yeah, yes, yes, yes. Yes, of course. Stanley. Great. gwad a 2618 02:52:48,870 --> 02:52:52,080 great example. The office is a racist piece of shit. 2619 02:52:52,470 --> 02:52:58,740 No, it's I love the show. Cuz that portrayal of their black 2620 02:52:58,740 --> 02:53:02,490 characters? Yeah. Ah, the two lists on there. Yeah. 2621 02:53:02,910 --> 02:53:05,040 Darnell, I think is Darna. Yeah, 2622 02:53:05,190 --> 02:53:07,800 I forget. I forget their names. It was the handbook. I know 2623 02:53:07,800 --> 02:53:09,960 Stanley. I forget the other guy's name but the guy with the 2624 02:53:09,990 --> 02:53:10,950 fro Bach. I 2625 02:53:11,340 --> 02:53:13,830 think it's Darnell. Some shipping. 2626 02:53:14,340 --> 02:53:18,150 Right. That kind of progress. The the progression he went 2627 02:53:18,150 --> 02:53:23,550 through. Going from Yeah, to the desk. Yeah, from I can I can 2628 02:53:25,320 --> 02:53:28,350 relate to that. So I kind of like my thing. Like, we're 2629 02:53:28,350 --> 02:53:32,850 coming from the floor, you know, working way into the office, I 2630 02:53:32,850 --> 02:53:35,880 can relate that. But going back to Stanley. Notice Stanley ate 2631 02:53:35,880 --> 02:53:38,160 what he wanted. He kind of was like inviting death to come. 2632 02:53:38,160 --> 02:53:42,600 Yes. That's awesome. That's that suicide mentality that I'm 2633 02:53:42,600 --> 02:53:47,070 talking about? Wow. Okay. Yeah. So I mean, I have to give props 2634 02:53:47,070 --> 02:53:50,130 to the office because they nailed that. Right on right on 2635 02:53:50,130 --> 02:53:53,970 the head. As far as capturing that just like, oh, how sad 2636 02:53:53,970 --> 02:54:01,260 that we all viewed that as very funny. Yes. The more you know, 2637 02:54:01,860 --> 02:54:05,070 yes. It's not funny. But again, 2638 02:54:05,100 --> 02:54:09,300 again, another learning moment here. Yeah, Stanley is real. 2639 02:54:09,750 --> 02:54:13,800 Yes, Stanley is real. Because once you get over that prime, 2640 02:54:14,490 --> 02:54:17,700 it's like well, that's gonna get me and what I find out is this 2641 02:54:17,700 --> 02:54:21,960 is not exclusive to black men. No, but but our physical 2642 02:54:22,020 --> 02:54:28,050 abilities is so much part of our identity. Yeah, that once you're 2643 02:54:28,050 --> 02:54:30,120 saying once you get the potbelly that kind of things like, Oh, 2644 02:54:30,120 --> 02:54:31,950 I'm over. I'm old. I'm just gonna wait for death to catch 2645 02:54:31,950 --> 02:54:34,410 me. I'm gonna have another side of ribs while I'm doing it, that 2646 02:54:34,410 --> 02:54:38,700 kind of thing. You know, and me sad. But that's kind of the 2647 02:54:38,700 --> 02:54:41,430 mentality. That's why you see, and that but now you see you 2648 02:54:41,430 --> 02:54:47,010 that's why obesity and COVID is running so because of that very 2649 02:54:47,010 --> 02:54:51,510 thing. But let's go ahead and get back into number 25. Now, 2650 02:54:52,440 --> 02:54:55,290 and it's so important to get past the stigma associated with 2651 02:54:55,290 --> 02:54:58,740 when you talk about stronger people well 78% Of all people 2652 02:54:58,890 --> 02:55:02,280 who die by suicide are actually men as according to the National 2653 02:55:02,280 --> 02:55:04,830 Alliance on Mental mental illness, because I think he was 2654 02:55:04,830 --> 02:55:07,410 talking about being strong. A lot of times men are supposed to 2655 02:55:07,410 --> 02:55:10,110 be strong and not supposed to share their feelings, they have 2656 02:55:10,110 --> 02:55:13,230 all these emotions, and they go through these things and don't 2657 02:55:13,230 --> 02:55:15,780 know how to deal with them don't know how to cope with them. And 2658 02:55:15,780 --> 02:55:17,970 that's when the help comes in. That's when the mental health 2659 02:55:17,970 --> 02:55:20,880 comes in, that's when talking to someone and checking on other 2660 02:55:20,880 --> 02:55:24,030 people come into play. And don't forget about the guys that are 2661 02:55:24,030 --> 02:55:27,510 in involved in these suicides also, that are the fathers, the 2662 02:55:27,510 --> 02:55:31,230 brothers, the cousins, because Ian had a father, he has a 2663 02:55:31,230 --> 02:55:34,620 father, he and Alexander senior, you know, his feelings and his 2664 02:55:34,620 --> 02:55:38,010 emotions are going to play this is not just Regina King is 2665 02:55:38,010 --> 02:55:41,460 affected by this, all the men in his life also have to now cope 2666 02:55:41,460 --> 02:55:44,340 with this too, which could cause depression or sadness that 2667 02:55:44,370 --> 02:55:47,550 they're dealing with. So anytime that people are going through 2668 02:55:47,550 --> 02:55:51,600 this type of thing, surround them with love, prayer care and 2669 02:55:51,600 --> 02:55:54,600 check on them. And not only in this situation, but in everyday 2670 02:55:54,600 --> 02:55:55,860 life check on him. 2671 02:55:56,520 --> 02:56:03,750 You know, there was one suicide that I saw, um must have been 2672 02:56:03,990 --> 02:56:06,690 might have been during Black Lives Matter protests kind of 2673 02:56:06,690 --> 02:56:11,640 days as young black man and the in, you know, to the cops or 2674 02:56:11,940 --> 02:56:14,220 he's like it, they were like smashing and grabbing or 2675 02:56:14,220 --> 02:56:17,820 something. And the cops, you know, it's like, you know, stop 2676 02:56:18,330 --> 02:56:22,650 any, he turns the gun upside down on his head and just blows 2677 02:56:22,650 --> 02:56:26,130 his head off. I don't know if you saw that. Not having I 2678 02:56:26,130 --> 02:56:29,580 haven't seen that. It was really shocking for any for any child 2679 02:56:29,580 --> 02:56:33,630 really, in my eyes to do that. But but that was one it's like, 2680 02:56:33,630 --> 02:56:37,410 whoa, whoa, what the hell? What with how did that choice come 2681 02:56:37,410 --> 02:56:37,920 about? 2682 02:56:38,700 --> 02:56:43,080 But it's, it's funny you say that because that is a suicide 2683 02:56:43,080 --> 02:56:47,400 mentality. Yeah. To when you start smashing and grabbing and 2684 02:56:47,400 --> 02:56:50,580 don't care and don't care about going to jail and don't care 2685 02:56:50,580 --> 02:56:55,410 about if somebody kills me. Or if I kill them. This is all 2686 02:56:55,410 --> 02:56:59,970 traits of suicide, that they're misdiagnosed by when you get to 2687 02:56:59,970 --> 02:57:07,350 the point where you're playing the death, the death game, of 2688 02:57:07,350 --> 02:57:10,980 chasing that adrenaline rush of just shooting at people and 2689 02:57:10,980 --> 02:57:11,970 they're shooting at you, 2690 02:57:13,080 --> 02:57:15,840 then then you're at the end there. 2691 02:57:16,350 --> 02:57:20,370 But they wouldn't call them suicidal. No. Right, but it's 2692 02:57:20,370 --> 02:57:23,310 clearly there. And another point I want to move into before we 2693 02:57:23,310 --> 02:57:28,050 get into the next clip is bothers. I don't know how men 2694 02:57:28,050 --> 02:57:33,510 cope without having fathers. Because my dad is like, you 2695 02:57:33,510 --> 02:57:37,020 know, saying, been my anchor. He's like he was saying, cuz I 2696 02:57:37,020 --> 02:57:40,920 could tell him I call him he like, was not what was going on. 2697 02:57:40,920 --> 02:57:45,120 I bet I'm pretty good. And he can tell when I'm not alright. 2698 02:57:47,040 --> 02:57:49,320 He's gonna say that last three times pretty good. What's going 2699 02:57:49,320 --> 02:57:53,220 really what's really going on? You're saying so the absence of 2700 02:57:53,220 --> 02:57:56,550 fathers plays into this as well. Great. 2701 02:57:57,060 --> 02:58:03,000 So my father was not present at all, pretty much after I was 2702 02:58:03,000 --> 02:58:09,090 six. Now I forgive him because I know what he was doing. And I 2703 02:58:09,150 --> 02:58:12,570 and you know, he made he made a choice, but he always provided 2704 02:58:12,570 --> 02:58:18,150 this as well as he could. I was fortunate because I had lots of 2705 02:58:18,150 --> 02:58:24,780 father figures in my life. Older man, who taught me like, like CB 2706 02:58:24,780 --> 02:58:28,950 radio, there's one one guy another one taught me a lot 2707 02:58:28,950 --> 02:58:32,910 about big band music. And so there I was lucky to have people 2708 02:58:32,910 --> 02:58:38,700 in my life. But I do not have what you just said, Hmm, I do 2709 02:58:38,700 --> 02:58:40,320 have it with with some of these men. 2710 02:58:41,820 --> 02:58:46,260 It doesn't have to be your biological father, father figure 2711 02:58:46,260 --> 02:58:46,560 but as 2712 02:58:46,950 --> 02:58:49,860 with it with that I'm saying this responsibility for all men 2713 02:58:49,860 --> 02:58:51,660 to keep your eye out and to help. 2714 02:58:52,230 --> 02:58:54,780 Right and that's where to go back to the barbershop. That's 2715 02:58:54,780 --> 02:58:58,680 why that was important. Because you at least get a dose of that 2716 02:58:58,740 --> 02:59:02,730 in the barber shop. Ah, they would know your accomplishment 2717 02:59:02,730 --> 02:59:06,030 all you graduating high school heard you're saying that kind of 2718 02:59:06,060 --> 02:59:09,300 go to church, the same thing. And you've isolated these people 2719 02:59:09,690 --> 02:59:14,670 from these modes of support. Ah, 2720 02:59:14,730 --> 02:59:18,000 Eddie Murphy and and Arsenio Hall really did a good job of 2721 02:59:18,000 --> 02:59:19,440 kind of showing that I think, 2722 02:59:19,800 --> 02:59:23,070 yes, cuz that's, that's the way in the barbershop as well. Ice 2723 02:59:23,070 --> 02:59:33,000 Cube. Yeah. You have a diversity of age. The fact that everybody 2724 02:59:33,000 --> 02:59:35,790 has to come get their hair cut. So you get this the diversity of 2725 02:59:35,790 --> 02:59:42,090 social socio economic diversity there. Um, so yeah, it's really 2726 02:59:42,120 --> 02:59:48,330 I mean, it's a reason why I'm saying is, is we have to make 2727 02:59:48,360 --> 02:59:52,980 sure people don't get isolated in these times, where isolation 2728 02:59:53,010 --> 03:00:01,830 is running rampant. Because and I'll make this point Sometimes 2729 03:00:01,830 --> 03:00:07,080 that people, even podcasting, main, make people not feel alone 2730 03:00:07,110 --> 03:00:10,500 or live streaming, oh, sure, those kinds of things because 2731 03:00:10,500 --> 03:00:13,140 they're like, Okay, at least, I'm experienced this with 2732 03:00:13,140 --> 03:00:16,590 somebody else, or I can hear other people talk. Like a lot of 2733 03:00:16,590 --> 03:00:19,980 time people like to listen to us talk. Because they may be the 2734 03:00:19,980 --> 03:00:22,740 only conversation they hear for long periods of time due to 2735 03:00:22,740 --> 03:00:23,460 isolation, 2736 03:00:23,729 --> 03:00:26,519 or just hear that they're not entirely crazy questioning 2737 03:00:26,519 --> 03:00:27,119 things. 2738 03:00:27,539 --> 03:00:33,329 That's, that's another reason. But yeah, it's, I want to make 2739 03:00:33,329 --> 03:00:36,179 sure everybody's alright. And this is not exclusive to black 2740 03:00:36,179 --> 03:00:41,069 people. But I know how we are that we don't want to have to 2741 03:00:41,069 --> 03:00:43,949 ask for any help. You know, cuz we don't want to seem like we're 2742 03:00:43,949 --> 03:00:46,379 getting charity or handouts, that kind of thing. So I'll just 2743 03:00:46,379 --> 03:00:49,679 say, once again, check on your brothers. And you're saying if 2744 03:00:49,679 --> 03:00:53,819 you need help, seek help. So I'm going to give him 26 Now, 2745 03:00:54,720 --> 03:00:57,870 but yeah, just just check on people. Because it's important 2746 03:00:57,870 --> 03:01:01,380 and know that if you're going through these things, that there 2747 03:01:01,440 --> 03:01:07,140 are brighter days ahead. And I live my life one day at a time 2748 03:01:07,140 --> 03:01:09,840 now. And I wake up every morning, I thank God for the 2749 03:01:09,840 --> 03:01:11,940 blessing that he's given me. And I don't know how spiritual 2750 03:01:11,940 --> 03:01:14,100 people are. But I'm very spiritual when it comes to that. 2751 03:01:14,220 --> 03:01:16,950 Maybe not religious, but spiritual. I just think God that 2752 03:01:16,950 --> 03:01:19,980 I breath in my body, because I always say that I'm far from 2753 03:01:19,980 --> 03:01:23,310 perfect, but I'm better than most. And you have to understand 2754 03:01:23,310 --> 03:01:27,300 that no matter how bad you think it is, sometimes, you have it a 2755 03:01:27,300 --> 03:01:30,150 lot better than a lot of people in this world, but you still 2756 03:01:30,180 --> 03:01:34,530 have to continue to try because Morrow could be that day where 2757 03:01:34,560 --> 03:01:38,850 everything turns around. So if you need help, there is help 2758 03:01:38,850 --> 03:01:41,670 available, there's a lot of people to talk to, once again, 2759 03:01:41,670 --> 03:01:44,760 the suicide prevention hotline is out there. But also just your 2760 03:01:44,760 --> 03:01:47,730 friends, your family, your pastors, everybody wants to get 2761 03:01:47,730 --> 03:01:52,440 in one 800 273 Talk is a Suicide Prevention Lifeline that you can 2762 03:01:52,590 --> 03:01:57,660 reach out to, once again and if you feel that way, please speak 2763 03:01:57,660 --> 03:01:57,960 up. 2764 03:01:58,920 --> 03:02:02,490 And I'll I'll add one personal experience at the almost at the 2765 03:02:02,490 --> 03:02:08,700 end of the show here. I had a moment in my life. I had a two 2766 03:02:08,700 --> 03:02:13,830 year old daughter, I had a big house mortgage. I had a couple 2767 03:02:13,830 --> 03:02:16,770 100 bucks in the in the bank at the end of the month, and I got 2768 03:02:16,770 --> 03:02:21,840 fired. And it was real this time. And I did not tell my 2769 03:02:21,840 --> 03:02:25,320 wife, I didn't I didn't really talk to anybody about it. I just 2770 03:02:25,350 --> 03:02:32,790 was freaking out internally for five days. Just trying to think 2771 03:02:32,790 --> 03:02:34,950 what can I do? What can I do? What can I do? What can I do? 2772 03:02:35,400 --> 03:02:38,340 And was a part that was good? Was the coming up with 2773 03:02:38,340 --> 03:02:42,210 scenarios? What can I do because I've benefited me later. But the 2774 03:02:42,210 --> 03:02:48,330 feeling that I had when on the fifth or sixth day. I got that 2775 03:02:48,330 --> 03:02:53,250 like phone call. And in my case, they hired me back for four 2776 03:02:53,250 --> 03:02:58,500 times as much. I decided right then and there. The one thing 2777 03:02:58,500 --> 03:03:01,080 I'm not going to do is let it eat me up inside. 2778 03:03:02,550 --> 03:03:07,230 And that's my point. Right? That's that's the demise the 2779 03:03:07,230 --> 03:03:08,520 point of this whole show? 2780 03:03:09,930 --> 03:03:13,530 Well, and it's something I was fortunate enough to just and I 2781 03:03:13,590 --> 03:03:18,570 I'll be honest, I'm always honest, really. It was Anthony 2782 03:03:18,570 --> 03:03:23,610 Robbins. He had back in the day, he had cassette tapes. And I 2783 03:03:23,610 --> 03:03:27,960 remember watching him you know, I've done some info infomercial 2784 03:03:27,960 --> 03:03:31,290 late at night and like, okay, so I ordered his tapes, the power 2785 03:03:31,290 --> 03:03:34,440 talk tapes, and it really didn't take me more than listening to 2786 03:03:34,440 --> 03:03:38,730 one and I totally got it. And it was exactly what he said that 2787 03:03:38,730 --> 03:03:44,010 feeling you have with your sad happy, jealous, all these 2788 03:03:44,010 --> 03:03:47,850 feelings. You have the power to change that instantly in a snap 2789 03:03:47,850 --> 03:03:50,790 of finger you can change that feeling internally and actually 2790 03:03:50,790 --> 03:03:55,080 only you have that capability. And somehow that has stuck with 2791 03:03:55,080 --> 03:04:00,840 me and when I was in that position. i i Only when I was 2792 03:04:00,840 --> 03:04:04,470 fortunate enough for it all to end at that moment I realize all 2793 03:04:04,470 --> 03:04:07,770 the game playing all that was good for what can I do? What are 2794 03:04:07,770 --> 03:04:12,270 my options, but the feeling is what will kill you. It will and 2795 03:04:12,270 --> 03:04:13,800 that that's what can consume you. 2796 03:04:14,580 --> 03:04:17,580 And the mental loop that you say cuz you can't stop it? 2797 03:04:17,759 --> 03:04:19,949 No, no, no, you can't say anything. 2798 03:04:21,270 --> 03:04:24,300 Is I'm not gonna say you can't because you can do all things. 2799 03:04:24,900 --> 03:04:32,400 But it's breaking that mental loop a lot. You know, like you 2800 03:04:32,400 --> 03:04:36,630 were saying you five days you're just fretting. Uh, what's going 2801 03:04:36,630 --> 03:04:39,390 to happen next. What do you start playing out in eastern 2802 03:04:39,390 --> 03:04:42,720 area start playing out in your head. So I'm glad I thank you 2803 03:04:42,720 --> 03:04:47,370 for sharing that. But I guess we can go ahead and get to thank 2804 03:04:47,370 --> 03:04:48,870 the rest of the producers. 2805 03:04:48,900 --> 03:04:52,170 Yes. Hold on a second. Let me give me a little effect here 2806 03:04:52,170 --> 03:04:59,010 because thank our producers came in under $50 but not unimportant 2807 03:04:59,040 --> 03:05:04,050 Christopher W RCW 4999 and keep fighting the good fight and 2808 03:05:04,050 --> 03:05:08,610 that's towards you. Oh of course see Davis Thank you $46 David T 2809 03:05:08,610 --> 03:05:13,020 Vargas 3993 Great Palindrome says I've been slipping on the 2810 03:05:13,020 --> 03:05:15,420 donations here's some value excellent work stoked for the 2811 03:05:15,420 --> 03:05:19,860 next episode reminder for dudes to go like the last tip videos. 2812 03:05:20,310 --> 03:05:23,610 I may not get to done live but I should I'm always sure to go and 2813 03:05:23,610 --> 03:05:26,940 drop a like as soon as I can my please help me please have a mo 2814 03:05:26,940 --> 03:05:33,930 karma laters Yes, for sure. You've got Derrick birch was 2815 03:05:33,930 --> 03:05:38,880 3830. In 2014. 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Money 2881 03:10:09,120 --> 03:10:13,530 to Oh, most beautiful thing on earth is $100 bill. I haven't 2882 03:10:13,530 --> 03:10:19,050 seen a woman is good looking at $100 bills excites you. I 2883 03:10:19,050 --> 03:10:22,110 could tell you why it didn't play but thanks for giving me 2884 03:10:22,110 --> 03:10:23,490 the opportunity to bring it back. 2885 03:10:24,480 --> 03:10:26,190 No worries. We had to 2886 03:10:26,190 --> 03:10:31,110 do it. issues a technical issue universe will be thrown off. We 2887 03:10:31,110 --> 03:10:33,330 can't have the matrix glitching you're right, like 2888 03:10:33,480 --> 03:10:37,410 last time we left the door open. That was bad. Yeah, it was bad. 2889 03:10:37,410 --> 03:10:40,230 It was everything and go right to that. But let's go ahead and 2890 03:10:40,230 --> 03:10:43,800 get into the final clip from Kanye and this is talking about 2891 03:10:43,800 --> 03:10:45,330 the victimization mentality 2892 03:10:45,660 --> 03:10:50,580 I've been canceled canceled be 40 had canceled culture. I was 2893 03:10:50,580 --> 03:10:53,100 cancelled before they had to turn do you care about any of 2894 03:10:53,100 --> 03:10:58,020 it? I do I care by everything. Does it does it not rub you the 2895 03:10:58,020 --> 03:11:01,020 wrong way? But does it get to your core when when people do 2896 03:11:01,470 --> 03:11:07,800 rub me the right way? Did they say you turn who turned your 2897 03:11:07,800 --> 03:11:13,800 back on the culture or exactly 100% I have turned my back on 2898 03:11:13,800 --> 03:11:19,380 the idea of victimization mentality. We are locked up. We 2899 03:11:19,380 --> 03:11:23,310 went from one to four. We went from one a four to one a three. 2900 03:11:23,580 --> 03:11:29,160 But we always pointing at the white people. But yet we want to 2901 03:11:29,160 --> 03:11:32,730 spend all of our money on Florence. We want to spend all 2902 03:11:32,730 --> 03:11:36,630 our money on luxury as opposed to going and buying some land. 2903 03:11:37,350 --> 03:11:42,090 America is for sale. And there's a lot of barren land Disney 2904 03:11:42,090 --> 03:11:46,800 bought a lot of it in Florida. But the culture has you focused 2905 03:11:46,830 --> 03:11:50,640 so much on fucking somebody bitch and pulling up in a 2906 03:11:50,640 --> 03:11:54,600 foreign and rapping about things that could get you locked up and 2907 03:11:54,600 --> 03:12:01,230 then saying you about prison reform. Like, bro we brainwashed 2908 03:12:01,230 --> 03:12:05,010 out here, bro. Come on, man. It's a free man talking. 2909 03:12:08,220 --> 03:12:11,580 Democrats had his bone Democrats with food stamps for years, bro. 2910 03:12:12,510 --> 03:12:16,380 What are you talking about? Guns in the 80s. Taking the father's 2911 03:12:16,380 --> 03:12:20,910 out the home. plan be? Lauren our votes, making us our board 2912 03:12:20,910 --> 03:12:26,220 our children. Gotcha now kill. I can't tell y'all how to feel. 2913 03:12:26,370 --> 03:12:29,730 But what I can tell you honestly, is how I feel. 2914 03:12:29,940 --> 03:12:32,850 Yeah, that was such a great bit from that interview. 2915 03:12:33,660 --> 03:12:37,470 And I can't tell you all how to feel I can tell you how I feel. 2916 03:12:38,100 --> 03:12:43,500 So I had to look myself in the mirror and I said you can't be 2917 03:12:43,500 --> 03:12:50,160 no victim, bro. That's the only way that is the only way you win 2918 03:12:50,610 --> 03:12:55,770 in this game is you can't be a victim. And the whole episode, I 2919 03:12:55,770 --> 03:12:58,830 walk y'all through the mental process those five days you 2920 03:12:58,830 --> 03:13:03,420 talked about? This is what I went through. And on the back 2921 03:13:03,420 --> 03:13:07,170 end of it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody has 2922 03:13:07,170 --> 03:13:11,250 control over my life except me. and Mrs. Facts. 2923 03:13:12,540 --> 03:13:13,890 Well, there's that. 2924 03:13:17,100 --> 03:13:24,240 But yeah, that's best it you know. So, yeah, so I had a gut 2925 03:13:24,240 --> 03:13:27,660 check Thomas, go Tom. It's like there's no, there's no room for 2926 03:13:27,660 --> 03:13:30,930 to be a victim. You can be angry, but how do you go and 2927 03:13:30,930 --> 03:13:35,250 channel that anger? So I had to go back and pull out the old 2928 03:13:35,250 --> 03:13:39,690 book, The Seven Habits, you know, say Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah, 2929 03:13:39,720 --> 03:13:43,620 you know, and I had to revisit the first habit. And the first 2930 03:13:43,620 --> 03:13:47,640 habit is being proactive. And if you're proactive, that gives you 2931 03:13:47,640 --> 03:13:50,550 the power and puts you back in the controller seat. So these 2932 03:13:50,550 --> 03:13:54,120 next three clips are followed guys that were angry like me and 2933 03:13:54,120 --> 03:13:57,750 was empathize with me. It's time to suck it up. Time to get 2934 03:13:57,750 --> 03:14:00,060 proactive fellas. So let's go ahead and get to number 29. 2935 03:14:00,360 --> 03:14:01,350 Habit one. 2936 03:14:02,790 --> 03:14:10,140 Be proactive. Basically means that your life is a product of 2937 03:14:10,140 --> 03:14:18,000 your values, not your feelings. That your life or the 2938 03:14:18,060 --> 03:14:24,810 organization's life is the product of your decisions, not 2939 03:14:24,870 --> 03:14:31,950 your conditions. The opposite of being proactive, is to be 2940 03:14:31,950 --> 03:14:40,530 reactive. Which basically means that your life is a function of 2941 03:14:40,530 --> 03:14:46,350 your feelings, your moods, your impulses, other people's 2942 03:14:46,350 --> 03:14:52,230 treatment. The underlying principle of habit one, be 2943 03:14:52,230 --> 03:14:55,410 proactive, is to take responsibility. 2944 03:14:56,250 --> 03:15:00,330 Oh wow. That's so true man. And boy, are we being trained that 2945 03:15:00,330 --> 03:15:03,720 to be like, you know how you feel how you make others feel 2946 03:15:04,020 --> 03:15:06,120 crazy. Yeah, spot on. 2947 03:15:07,080 --> 03:15:10,980 And he points out, I didn't clip this, because we're saying it 2948 03:15:10,980 --> 03:15:14,280 was kind of buried in between two points he was making, but in 2949 03:15:14,280 --> 03:15:20,190 between the stimulus and your reaction is your power to decide 2950 03:15:20,190 --> 03:15:24,000 how you're going to react to whatever thrown at you. Yeah, 2951 03:15:24,720 --> 03:15:28,080 you have the stimulus, me being fired. And then you have my 2952 03:15:28,080 --> 03:15:33,420 reaction. And in between there, if I just went off a gut feeling 2953 03:15:33,420 --> 03:15:37,920 and got angry and stayed angry, they had control. But the fat I 2954 03:15:37,920 --> 03:15:43,260 say, You know what, I'm gonna control how rare it is. So I did 2955 03:15:43,260 --> 03:15:47,190 three episodes of Converse this week. I've been busy. I've been 2956 03:15:47,190 --> 03:15:50,640 talking to people on the back end with the fax machine, you 2957 03:15:50,640 --> 03:15:55,110 know, saying making plans, you know, more and more. It's crazy 2958 03:15:55,110 --> 03:15:58,320 how the universe works. Because when you think, not in a lack 2959 03:15:58,320 --> 03:16:01,260 mindset, but the abundance mindset. And I mean, that just 2960 03:16:01,260 --> 03:16:04,890 in appearance forms, not nice, esoteric ways. But just the fact 2961 03:16:04,890 --> 03:16:08,610 if you get out of that loop of how you've been done wrong, and 2962 03:16:08,610 --> 03:16:13,830 how things are bad for you, and look at, oh, man, I am free. I 2963 03:16:13,830 --> 03:16:17,430 am a free man talking. Nobody has control over me anymore. 2964 03:16:18,030 --> 03:16:22,740 Then the doors open for you. interest you. 2965 03:16:22,860 --> 03:16:26,940 This is very interesting. You use the term I would use you 2966 03:16:26,940 --> 03:16:31,350 said what the universe did. universe or God 2967 03:16:31,770 --> 03:16:36,330 is God. But what I'm saying is I make I've never forced my my 2968 03:16:36,360 --> 03:16:40,290 religion on anybody else. So I don't want the message to be 2969 03:16:40,290 --> 03:16:44,010 lost. Because they say God said God does not pertain to me, 2970 03:16:44,250 --> 03:16:47,940 whatever you call it, whatever you're saying, Whatever you 2971 03:16:47,940 --> 03:16:54,270 refer to, as you control with your mind, your outcome. That's 2972 03:16:54,270 --> 03:16:58,890 right. By what thoughts, what your thoughts are, if you're in 2973 03:16:58,890 --> 03:17:00,720 a negative place, things are gonna get worse. If you're going 2974 03:17:00,720 --> 03:17:02,610 to run it from light and you and worry about get caught by that 2975 03:17:02,610 --> 03:17:06,210 light, you're going to get caught by that light. Or if you 2976 03:17:06,210 --> 03:17:08,490 do get caught by it, like you're saying you got worried about it, 2977 03:17:08,490 --> 03:17:10,200 guess what you're saying? It's just another minute, you're 2978 03:17:10,200 --> 03:17:13,470 like, you're saying this about higher perspective, you put it 2979 03:17:13,470 --> 03:17:18,750 in? So like, I never, I always make it a habit, not to leave 2980 03:17:18,750 --> 03:17:24,900 people in a doom and gloom state. Because if you do, and 2981 03:17:24,900 --> 03:17:29,190 that's very harmful. So like I said, I had to go back and dig 2982 03:17:29,190 --> 03:17:33,810 out my book that Mahmoud Brahma gave me God rested, rest in 2983 03:17:33,810 --> 03:17:38,430 peace. But he handed me this book. And that changed my life 2984 03:17:38,610 --> 03:17:44,520 that made it that sowed the seed, that this whole podcast in 2985 03:17:44,520 --> 03:17:47,670 the spirit of water, to say, You know what, I'm beginning this 2986 03:17:47,670 --> 03:17:50,640 job. And, you know, the crazy thing is, I always thought I was 2987 03:17:50,640 --> 03:17:54,900 bigger than my job as I read that book. But it's like when 2988 03:17:54,900 --> 03:17:57,990 somebody takes something away from you, and takes control out 2989 03:17:57,990 --> 03:18:02,430 of your hands. Do you get angry about it? But as I was on my way 2990 03:18:02,430 --> 03:18:08,430 out anyway, what do you what are you mad about? Right? So it's 2991 03:18:08,430 --> 03:18:12,510 just that that that's the point I want to make is, don't doom 2992 03:18:12,510 --> 03:18:15,750 and gloom. If you need help, seek help. Adam, if you could 2993 03:18:15,750 --> 03:18:18,870 please put that suicide prevention number in there. 2994 03:18:18,870 --> 03:18:21,600 We'll get it in the show notes because I'm not Pooh poohing 2995 03:18:21,600 --> 03:18:24,120 that you're saying it's some darkness, it's the opportunity 2996 03:18:24,120 --> 03:18:28,740 to be dark. But how you respond to is how you stand in your 2997 03:18:28,740 --> 03:18:32,700 power. It's that space between your sending the stimulus and 2998 03:18:32,700 --> 03:18:36,360 the reaction. That's where you decide how you want to react to 2999 03:18:37,230 --> 03:18:39,300 AV USA before we get into 30? 3000 03:18:40,290 --> 03:18:45,660 No, I think you I think you summed it up really well. The 3001 03:18:45,660 --> 03:18:48,630 power of the mind is awesome, no matter what you call it, and 3002 03:18:48,900 --> 03:18:52,200 whatever you're focused on. Here. There's so many sayings 3003 03:18:52,200 --> 03:18:55,530 about this, you know, grass is always greener on the other 3004 03:18:55,530 --> 03:18:59,910 side, but it's also greener where you water it. So wherever 3005 03:18:59,910 --> 03:19:03,090 you're focusing, that's that's where you're going to go and 3006 03:19:03,090 --> 03:19:07,590 that's what I've seen time and time again. She's just what do 3007 03:19:07,590 --> 03:19:10,590 you want? Just if you want you can clarify that you focus on it 3008 03:19:10,590 --> 03:19:14,160 you go and it'll happen it's I've seen it my friends have 3009 03:19:14,160 --> 03:19:18,090 seen it. You're seeing it. It's it's it's a crazy thing. 3010 03:19:19,560 --> 03:19:24,750 But it's real not in that first phone call and the star opened 3011 03:19:24,750 --> 03:19:29,040 the door for you, me and you to meet one day. Absolutely. The 3012 03:19:29,040 --> 03:19:32,730 universe like okay, you stepping out on faith, okay, I'm opening 3013 03:19:33,060 --> 03:19:35,310 another door for you. And when you get there to realize the 3014 03:19:35,310 --> 03:19:38,610 door be open here saying is another door and another door 3015 03:19:38,730 --> 03:19:41,340 and another and you look back like wow, like well, how the 3016 03:19:41,340 --> 03:19:46,650 hell did I get here? In a good way is like how did I get here? 3017 03:19:46,650 --> 03:19:49,890 So now we're not we don't doom and gloom over here. You thought 3018 03:19:49,890 --> 03:19:56,280 that's what you thought that's what this was none. So we can go 3019 03:19:56,280 --> 03:19:57,120 and get into 30. 3020 03:19:57,480 --> 03:20:03,570 The underlying principle of habit one, be proactive, is to 3021 03:20:03,570 --> 03:20:11,670 take responsibility. The concept is, you and I have the capacity 3022 03:20:12,120 --> 03:20:16,650 to choose our response. If you don't believe that you're 3023 03:20:16,650 --> 03:20:20,130 capable of choosing your own response, if you don't have that 3024 03:20:20,130 --> 03:20:24,210 vision of yourself, if you're deep into victim ism, I'll just 3025 03:20:24,210 --> 03:20:29,790 about guarantee you, you will become disempowered, you will 3026 03:20:29,790 --> 03:20:35,190 not begin with the end in mind with careful thinking about the 3027 03:20:35,190 --> 03:20:39,780 future, you'll be a function of the past, you will put second, 3028 03:20:39,960 --> 03:20:44,400 third, fourth and fifth things first, yep. With your ladder 3029 03:20:44,400 --> 03:20:48,000 leaning against the wrong wall, you'll think Win, lose or lose 3030 03:20:48,000 --> 03:20:52,350 win, you'll always seek to be understood first, rather than to 3031 03:20:52,350 --> 03:20:56,070 understand. And you'll be constantly watching all kinds of 3032 03:20:56,070 --> 03:21:01,470 relationships because both parties feel misunderstood. Ego 3033 03:21:01,470 --> 03:21:05,070 battles will develop, at best, you'll end up with compromise 3034 03:21:05,100 --> 03:21:08,160 instead of synergy. And you will not take the time to sharpen the 3035 03:21:08,160 --> 03:21:14,010 saw because you simply don't have the time to get gas. You're 3036 03:21:14,010 --> 03:21:18,000 too busy. You're buried in the thick of thin things. 3037 03:21:18,570 --> 03:21:21,180 Yeah, yeah, this is such a good book. So 3038 03:21:22,200 --> 03:21:26,940 life changing. And the reason why it's life changing is it 3039 03:21:26,940 --> 03:21:30,720 doesn't cost you anything to practice the habits. It doesn't 3040 03:21:30,720 --> 03:21:34,920 matter what your economic status is your educational status, any 3041 03:21:34,920 --> 03:21:38,820 of that anybody can start the seven habits today. And this is 3042 03:21:38,820 --> 03:21:42,060 not a promotion of the seven habits per se. But it's the 3043 03:21:42,060 --> 03:21:45,210 principles behind them of being proactive. Thinking with the 3044 03:21:45,210 --> 03:21:48,030 end, Sam beginning with end in mind. They're saying so on and 3045 03:21:48,030 --> 03:21:51,930 so on. And it's one thing that he you're saying he talks about 3046 03:21:52,290 --> 03:21:59,460 in there is and I want to harp on this just for a second. I 3047 03:21:59,460 --> 03:22:03,810 know I said reach out to people and talk to people. But at the 3048 03:22:03,810 --> 03:22:07,230 same time, look at the quality of people that you're talking 3049 03:22:07,230 --> 03:22:10,140 to. Because if you're only talking to somebody who's going 3050 03:22:10,140 --> 03:22:13,800 to be negative, that only sends you negative posts. It only 3051 03:22:13,800 --> 03:22:17,820 wants to get into this complaining, oh, you know, I'll 3052 03:22:17,820 --> 03:22:21,450 look at another another vaccine story, another vaccine story, 3053 03:22:21,540 --> 03:22:28,110 another vaccine story. You might want to start vetting. To say 3054 03:22:28,470 --> 03:22:32,790 are we building? Or are we going to just stay in saying wallow in 3055 03:22:32,790 --> 03:22:37,260 victimization, right. So I just wanna I just want to make that 3056 03:22:37,260 --> 03:22:41,040 point because Yeah, cuz you can you can have people to talk to 3057 03:22:42,210 --> 03:22:45,480 it might put you in a worse situation, because they don't 3058 03:22:45,480 --> 03:22:48,690 bring us and they're not thinking with the value adding 3059 03:22:48,690 --> 03:22:52,170 mine. And that like I said, once again, I gotta pay Eclass for 3060 03:22:52,170 --> 03:22:56,190 that, because his favorite line is, and he gonna laugh when I 3061 03:22:56,190 --> 03:23:00,330 say this. What you're gonna do cuz that's his favorite. 3062 03:23:02,460 --> 03:23:05,130 Everything you go through at the odd man, you know, it's messed 3063 03:23:05,130 --> 03:23:08,130 up. He said, What are you gonna do? Cuz? Well, that means it 3064 03:23:08,130 --> 03:23:10,980 mess up. The running line between him is with all that 3065 03:23:10,980 --> 03:23:17,430 said, What's your next move? Yeah, that's right. And, like I 3066 03:23:17,430 --> 03:23:20,760 said, in that and when he best that kind of friend, you need to 3067 03:23:20,760 --> 03:23:27,690 say what you sound like a little Mitch right now, you know, hey, 3068 03:23:29,160 --> 03:23:34,440 you need to man up. It's a time and place for it. And of course, 3069 03:23:34,440 --> 03:23:37,050 there's a time and place know, to empathize with your friend 3070 03:23:37,050 --> 03:23:39,450 like, yeah, that is messed up, you know, that kind of thing. 3071 03:23:39,450 --> 03:23:43,590 But don't get any pity party either. It's a careful balance. 3072 03:23:44,940 --> 03:23:51,510 That we need to understand how to strike. So, anything you want 3073 03:23:51,510 --> 03:23:51,840 to say 3074 03:23:51,870 --> 03:23:55,500 or no, I'm, I'm right there. I'm already you're saying you're 3075 03:23:55,500 --> 03:23:56,520 doing a beautiful job. 3076 03:23:56,910 --> 03:23:57,630 So what you're gonna do, 3077 03:24:00,060 --> 03:24:02,490 what I'm gonna do is play number 31 3078 03:24:02,550 --> 03:24:06,750 You're too busy. You're buried in the thick of thin things. 3079 03:24:08,520 --> 03:24:13,050 That's why haven't one is so foundational, so basic. It is 3080 03:24:13,050 --> 03:24:19,860 the vital foundational component of every other habit. Again, 3081 03:24:19,860 --> 03:24:27,570 let's define it as the capacity, the desire to subordinate 3082 03:24:28,620 --> 03:24:35,280 impulses, moods, feelings, conditions, to values based on 3083 03:24:35,280 --> 03:24:40,470 principles to subordinate until little by little, our emotional 3084 03:24:40,470 --> 03:24:47,610 life, which was once like this gets ironed out. You still may 3085 03:24:47,610 --> 03:24:50,790 have some ups and downs emotionally, but there is a 3086 03:24:50,790 --> 03:24:55,740 steadiness, a constancy in your nature, to where you can make 3087 03:24:55,770 --> 03:25:01,410 and keep promises to yourself and to others. where you can 3088 03:25:01,410 --> 03:25:05,580 treat others with kindness without capitulating your 3089 03:25:05,580 --> 03:25:10,710 convictions? In short, to where you can begin to practice the 3090 03:25:10,710 --> 03:25:13,080 other habits, which build on top of it. 3091 03:25:14,190 --> 03:25:19,020 Yeah, and I'll add my personal recommendations for maintaining 3092 03:25:19,020 --> 03:25:23,130 your emotions. Turn off the television and do not go on 3093 03:25:23,130 --> 03:25:29,130 social media. Those two things are critical. When you want to 3094 03:25:29,130 --> 03:25:33,450 focus on something else, you don't want your emotions playing 3095 03:25:33,450 --> 03:25:37,710 with you because the trickery is so deep in the world is geared 3096 03:25:38,190 --> 03:25:40,470 to trigger your emotions. 24/7 3097 03:25:41,700 --> 03:25:46,920 Yes, and we tap into it soon as we wake up. Oh, yeah. Especially 3098 03:25:46,920 --> 03:25:54,360 at a point. And I had my alarm on my phone rings and this is 3099 03:25:54,360 --> 03:25:55,470 the stories for the day. 3100 03:25:55,560 --> 03:25:58,140 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, this is not healthy. 3101 03:25:58,650 --> 03:26:01,770 I'm not I'm just saying I'm just letting you know. I'm saying 3102 03:26:01,770 --> 03:26:05,490 transparency, you're saying this that what you're saying is very 3103 03:26:05,490 --> 03:26:09,960 true. That they tell you what to worry about. At the point of 3104 03:26:09,960 --> 03:26:12,690 waking up, it's like this is the stuff you had to be worried 3105 03:26:12,690 --> 03:26:15,360 about today. And when I realized that you know I don't use it 3106 03:26:15,360 --> 03:26:20,310 anymore. But yeah, it's it's real like that. So hopefully 3107 03:26:20,370 --> 03:26:26,700 just this introspective ride I took you on um, help somebody if 3108 03:26:26,700 --> 03:26:29,700 it helped one person it was worth it. Um, 3109 03:26:29,790 --> 03:26:32,430 I think it helped you and it helped me and it helped everyone 3110 03:26:32,430 --> 03:26:36,210 who's listening this is this was beautiful to witness to see it 3111 03:26:36,210 --> 03:26:36,990 all unfold. 3112 03:26:37,500 --> 03:26:40,560 It definitely helped me it definitely right and this this 3113 03:26:40,560 --> 03:26:46,410 was a good getting the toxins out kind of thing and and like I 3114 03:26:46,410 --> 03:26:49,260 said, let people know where I'm at right now I'm back on the 3115 03:26:49,260 --> 03:26:52,650 seven habits. I never went away from them but it's a refocusing 3116 03:26:52,980 --> 03:26:56,310 and now it's just being proactive and you know, growing 3117 03:26:56,310 --> 03:27:03,060 growing this thing to I don't think people really get how big 3118 03:27:03,060 --> 03:27:07,620 the end is in my mind. Like I'm beginning with the end in mind 3119 03:27:07,620 --> 03:27:09,630 and then they'll see 3120 03:27:10,620 --> 03:27:13,800 me but I have an idea I have I have ideas of how 3121 03:27:14,010 --> 03:27:16,680 are you from the future so you're gonna say 3122 03:27:17,550 --> 03:27:20,340 thank you for doing this mo this was I know it was personal for 3123 03:27:20,340 --> 03:27:24,690 you. You put a lot a lot into this not just the work for the 3124 03:27:24,690 --> 03:27:27,120 clips, but thinking about what you want to say and I really 3125 03:27:27,120 --> 03:27:30,510 enjoyed it and I learned a lot as usual, but maybe a little 3126 03:27:30,510 --> 03:27:31,470 extra more today. 3127 03:27:32,310 --> 03:27:36,510 I'm glad you enjoyed it. And as I always say pay attention to 3128 03:27:36,510 --> 03:27:38,790 everything and the true reveal itself. 3129 03:27:39,480 --> 03:27:43,650 And again, in the show notes we'll have the suicide 3130 03:27:43,650 --> 03:27:46,440 prevention hotline along with the seven habits of highly 3131 03:27:46,440 --> 03:27:50,370 effective people and the video series black man get you some 3132 03:27:50,370 --> 03:27:53,730 therapy which I'm gonna watch I'm looking forward to it we'll 3133 03:27:53,730 --> 03:27:56,460 see y'all next time everybody I'm Moe facts with Adam curry 3134 03:28:01,980 --> 03:28:37,740 just came back and we have everybody listen, and I don't 3135 03:28:37,740 --> 03:29:27,870 care are you? To show the world everybody knows messengers and I 3136 03:29:27,870 --> 03:29:29,070 don't care when you call