1 00:00:00,719 --> 00:00:04,559 The Blind stares of a million pairs of eyes looking hard but 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,949 won't realize that they will never see the P 3 00:00:07,979 --> 00:00:11,849 mo facts with Adam curry for January 5 2022 It's episode 4 00:00:11,849 --> 00:00:15,809 number 73 We're back from a short holiday break I'm Adam 5 00:00:15,809 --> 00:00:18,599 curry coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country and 6 00:00:18,599 --> 00:00:21,509 time once again to spin the Wheel of topics from here to 7 00:00:21,509 --> 00:00:24,419 snowy Northern Virginia please say hello to my friend on the 8 00:00:24,419 --> 00:00:29,969 other end ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mole facts How you doing? I 9 00:00:29,969 --> 00:00:32,219 am good mo How is Northern Virginia? 10 00:00:34,470 --> 00:00:40,050 Well, I am snowed in by sociation Thank you very much 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,890 you all went through it in Austin last year with the oh 12 00:00:43,890 --> 00:00:44,220 you're gonna 13 00:00:44,220 --> 00:00:46,560 you're gonna blame you're gonna blame Texas now is that what 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,010 you're doing? 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,530 Well the universe had to be balanced you went through it 16 00:00:49,530 --> 00:00:52,830 last year I gotta go this year so that's what we're fully 17 00:00:52,830 --> 00:00:53,250 balanced 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,060 did you lose power? Yes I did and did the generator to the 19 00:00:57,060 --> 00:00:57,990 generator work? 20 00:00:58,530 --> 00:01:01,470 I actually didn't haven't had the generator installed yet. Oh. 21 00:01:02,130 --> 00:01:10,080 Oh no. Due to the you know the involuntary vacation I'm on I'll 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,860 pause all big purchases. Yeah guys. That was one of them 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,860 suck so bad. Rs Rs just came in it's being installed I think 24 00:01:19,860 --> 00:01:24,150 next week and I'm hoping like cuz you know we had 14 degrees 25 00:01:24,150 --> 00:01:27,390 the other day like it's if we had had some precipitation you 26 00:01:27,390 --> 00:01:30,270 know everything iced up it would have been horrible. 27 00:01:31,050 --> 00:01:35,790 And that's what happened here. It was it snowed that morning it 28 00:01:35,790 --> 00:01:40,230 was wet heavy, sticky snow. It was like the all the trees were 29 00:01:40,230 --> 00:01:43,560 double over. And I was telling my wife I was like yeah, we're 30 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,400 gonna get it you have to get out of here so we got a couple of 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,090 hotel rooms and made it like a intown vacation kind of thing 32 00:01:51,090 --> 00:01:56,130 for the kids and yeah, just got home like yesterday. 33 00:01:56,310 --> 00:01:59,580 Oh wow. I didn't even know that. I didn't know you're in a hotel. 34 00:01:59,910 --> 00:02:03,570 Yes. And the thing is I'm lucky because a lot of people were 35 00:02:03,570 --> 00:02:05,190 stuck on on the highway 36 00:02:05,250 --> 00:02:06,450 I 95 Yeah, 37 00:02:06,510 --> 00:02:10,530 yeah so I'm I'm blessed to be in the situation that I'm in and 38 00:02:10,530 --> 00:02:11,040 reminder 39 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,490 people always have some water in your car always have a couple of 40 00:02:14,490 --> 00:02:16,380 bottles of water no matter what 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,690 bales packets, Taco Bell packets, 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,560 nine millimeter helps. These are all things that are very 43 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,600 important. On the on the j ob front how are we doing? I don't 44 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,990 know. This so they live in limbo? When When are they going 45 00:02:30,990 --> 00:02:35,460 to tell you something? Is the 24th Oh bro this is This is so 46 00:02:35,460 --> 00:02:36,390 frustrating. 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:42,450 Well I have my Intel sources on inside. And they've went full 48 00:02:42,870 --> 00:02:46,830 code ready to send everybody back home work from home. So I 49 00:02:46,830 --> 00:02:49,470 don't know how this is gonna play out. I'm planning out like 50 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:55,740 I'm on my second career so I'm not really pressed about it. I 51 00:02:55,740 --> 00:03:00,090 like to thank all the producers you know for helping out um, 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,570 that takes the variation down a little bit of course I'm not 53 00:03:03,570 --> 00:03:08,550 worried just the uncertainty of it all but families okay, though 54 00:03:08,550 --> 00:03:12,780 me families. Okay. Great Christmas. I'm not going to let 55 00:03:12,780 --> 00:03:16,290 this kind of thing wear me down. So I mean, that's best that's 56 00:03:16,290 --> 00:03:20,250 the main thing and like I said, the kind words I don't know if 57 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,890 you um, of course you knew but people didn't know we had a 58 00:03:22,890 --> 00:03:27,900 Christmas special on the YouTube channel. Mama facts stop by 59 00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:31,500 Oh, gosh. Oh my goodness. How was that? 60 00:03:31,890 --> 00:03:34,680 It was great. She came through and Alexei we had a Christmas 61 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,000 special course. The reason for this season. She came and done 62 00:03:39,030 --> 00:03:43,860 what she's done for the last I know 41 years. Maybe almost 50 63 00:03:43,860 --> 00:03:47,520 years now. Read the actual Christmas story. Nah, he actual 64 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,970 biblical Christmas Story theater five. So I shared that with the 65 00:03:50,970 --> 00:03:54,030 facts family. That was my gift to them. If you haven't seen it, 66 00:03:54,030 --> 00:03:55,620 it's still up. So go check it out. 67 00:03:55,620 --> 00:03:58,500 I'll put a link to it. I'll put a link to it in the show notes. 68 00:03:58,500 --> 00:04:00,900 People definitely need to check it out. That's so cool, man. 69 00:04:00,930 --> 00:04:01,650 Very cool. 70 00:04:02,310 --> 00:04:09,420 Yeah, so and I'm here we are. We're into 2022 It's a lot of 71 00:04:09,420 --> 00:04:12,330 serious there in deputy with the show that we're about to have 72 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,280 now. So if you want to go in 73 00:04:15,030 --> 00:04:18,930 Yes, I've been dying to crank it up. You kidding me? That's 74 00:04:18,930 --> 00:04:23,070 right. There it is. Oh, we have topics flies around in circular 75 00:04:23,070 --> 00:04:25,200 motion round round. It goes where it stopped. Nobody knows. 76 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,020 But of course Moe knows because he put the show together today 77 00:04:28,020 --> 00:04:36,240 the topic RemoteFX with Adam curry episode 73 is Oh, yeah, 78 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,810 I've been waiting for this one. Yeah, I've been waiting for it 79 00:04:39,810 --> 00:04:40,530 nice. 80 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:48,060 Oh, juicy. I have I'm very grateful to Jessie smoly aka 81 00:04:48,060 --> 00:04:53,610 juicy because if there's no juicy there may not be any more 82 00:04:53,610 --> 00:04:54,240 facts. 83 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,250 Say what? No. 84 00:04:57,330 --> 00:05:00,900 Yes. All right. So I gotta get ready. Give me the abbreviated 85 00:05:01,620 --> 00:05:02,010 version. 86 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:05,100 Like how I delivered that line. I mean, was that like, say 87 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:06,330 whatnot? I mean, that was like 88 00:05:08,010 --> 00:05:13,740 it was. It was a cliffhanger delivery on the other end of it, 89 00:05:13,740 --> 00:05:19,890 but for people that didn't know, um, how I got my star in this 90 00:05:19,890 --> 00:05:26,010 commentating podcast and just sharing my perspective is, um, 91 00:05:26,130 --> 00:05:30,570 star star. Sure, yeah, yeah, yes. Well, he asked a question. 92 00:05:31,050 --> 00:05:36,540 He asked, um, why did Jussie Smollett lay leave the noose on 93 00:05:36,540 --> 00:05:41,700 his neck? And I had to answer and the funny thing is, just to 94 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:44,970 give a quick why I had to answer. It was another YouTuber 95 00:05:44,970 --> 00:05:47,760 that has said, not to me personally, but just on his 96 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,960 channel. Don't be a talker, be a doer. So when he said that it 97 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,500 was a bell rung in my head, and this is my opportunity to be a 98 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:59,220 doer instead of a talker, thank you for the sound. But that's 99 00:05:59,220 --> 00:06:02,070 kind of how it was. And that's the reason why I say this is, 100 00:06:02,430 --> 00:06:05,970 this is how powerful these things are that you get a ball 101 00:06:05,970 --> 00:06:13,230 going. And so I call it a star. He led me through he normally 102 00:06:13,230 --> 00:06:15,630 doesn't let people with through they haven't made a donation. I 103 00:06:15,630 --> 00:06:18,240 didn't realize this. I just called I didn't know how 104 00:06:19,140 --> 00:06:19,950 deadbeat. 105 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:21,600 I will, 106 00:06:21,630 --> 00:06:24,810 unknowingly I saw. Oh, that's what all that beads say. I 107 00:06:24,810 --> 00:06:27,600 didn't know I didn't know I didn't need to send a check. I 108 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,610 didn't know about that. Right. But 109 00:06:29,610 --> 00:06:33,240 the thing is this the weirdness that I got through, so okay, my 110 00:06:33,390 --> 00:06:37,410 view, he said, Okay, he got called back in the next day. And 111 00:06:37,410 --> 00:06:40,380 then he started saying when I called in, this is Mo with the 112 00:06:40,380 --> 00:06:41,070 facts. 113 00:06:42,329 --> 00:06:45,869 Right, I do remember this this origin story. Yes. Right. 114 00:06:45,870 --> 00:06:51,180 So then that that's how mo facts came about. And that gave me the 115 00:06:51,180 --> 00:06:54,750 platform to hone my skills. And then I reached out to you 116 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,380 through Twitter to answer the DAS a das questions slash 117 00:06:58,380 --> 00:06:59,490 reparations. And yeah, 118 00:06:59,490 --> 00:07:02,040 and the rest is history. The rest the rest is history. 119 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:03,600 Podcast history. 120 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,180 So that's the mount mo facts. Origin Story, thanks to juicy 121 00:07:09,210 --> 00:07:13,260 aka Jessie sub smell nice. So this story is very personal to 122 00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:13,440 me. 123 00:07:13,470 --> 00:07:18,600 And I'd like to remind everybody to, to maximum su experienced mo 124 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,160 facts with Adam curry to the max, get a modern podcast app, 125 00:07:23,190 --> 00:07:27,690 go to new podcast apps.com. And you can support the show while 126 00:07:27,690 --> 00:07:31,020 you're listening. It'll stream little bits of Bitcoin in real 127 00:07:31,020 --> 00:07:33,690 time. And if you'd like something, you can hit the boost 128 00:07:33,690 --> 00:07:36,900 button and send us you know, it's almost like like a super 129 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:40,020 chat, you can send us a message called a booster Graham. Go 130 00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:43,230 check it out at new podcast apps.com. I'm ready for the 131 00:07:43,230 --> 00:07:43,560 show. 132 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,140 All right. So I guess we got to start at the end. Of course, 133 00:07:49,140 --> 00:07:52,560 this is the this is the breakdown of how the story 134 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,850 played out and this is from Dan Abrams. Last one. 135 00:07:57,089 --> 00:08:00,389 The evidence is in and complete against actor Jussie Smollett, 136 00:08:00,419 --> 00:08:04,079 the former empire star small that is charged with six felony 137 00:08:04,079 --> 00:08:06,899 counts of disorderly conduct after allegedly filing false 138 00:08:06,899 --> 00:08:11,039 police reports in connection with a staged hate crime attack 139 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:14,519 that prosecutors say he orchestrated on a frigid night 140 00:08:14,519 --> 00:08:17,999 in January of 2019. So while I was back on the stand today 141 00:08:17,999 --> 00:08:21,299 seeming combative is prosecutor Dan Webb questions his 142 00:08:21,299 --> 00:08:24,659 communications with Abel osundairo, one of the two 143 00:08:24,659 --> 00:08:28,559 brothers who testified that Smollett paid them to stage the 144 00:08:28,559 --> 00:08:32,669 attack, which included wearing red hats to look like supporters 145 00:08:32,669 --> 00:08:36,089 of then President Donald Trump, putting a rope around his neck 146 00:08:36,089 --> 00:08:39,929 and pouring bleach on him. yelling things like this is 147 00:08:39,929 --> 00:08:43,679 maggot country in Chicago. The cross examination revealed some 148 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,639 inconsistencies with smell that's testimony on Monday smell 149 00:08:47,639 --> 00:08:51,329 at testified that messages between him and Abel who smell 150 00:08:51,329 --> 00:08:55,229 that says, had been hired as a personal trainer not as his 151 00:08:55,229 --> 00:08:59,339 attacker were to set up a workout for that day not to 152 00:08:59,339 --> 00:09:03,449 arrange a hoax attack. Today when web asks MILLETTE if he 153 00:09:03,449 --> 00:09:06,779 used Instagram to send private messages to Abel osundairo 154 00:09:06,989 --> 00:09:09,899 Regarding the timing of the fake attack on the night in question, 155 00:09:10,259 --> 00:09:14,219 similar denied sending the messages. But then web show it's 156 00:09:14,219 --> 00:09:17,459 MILLETTE for messages that he sent to osundairo on Instagram 157 00:09:17,459 --> 00:09:21,599 that night, the last of which was sent about 90 minutes before 158 00:09:21,599 --> 00:09:24,479 the alleged assault. And when asked whether any of those 159 00:09:24,479 --> 00:09:28,139 messages mentioned a workout on the night of the incidents let 160 00:09:28,139 --> 00:09:30,629 admitted they didn't but then he fired back. Well, there was also 161 00:09:30,629 --> 00:09:32,189 no messages about any attack. 162 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,100 I'm so happy. I'm so happy you're doing this episode. 163 00:09:38,100 --> 00:09:41,100 Because I know, I know. You're going to humanize everybody and 164 00:09:41,100 --> 00:09:43,980 it's going to blow us away by the end of this journey. I'm so 165 00:09:43,980 --> 00:09:45,060 excited about this. 166 00:09:45,269 --> 00:09:51,299 I hope to do that. Um, and at the same time, give some 167 00:09:51,299 --> 00:09:57,659 background like to why I think Jessie did it. Because like you 168 00:09:57,659 --> 00:10:01,589 said he's been made a two dimensional character punchline 169 00:10:01,589 --> 00:10:06,359 of jokes, which rightfully so when you push pull up the bleach 170 00:10:06,359 --> 00:10:09,569 thing is you put yourself there. The bleach thing is weird. The 171 00:10:09,599 --> 00:10:14,699 the bleach thing. I don't, I don't I guess he was like, Oh, 172 00:10:14,699 --> 00:10:17,189 we're gonna get the black coffee or something. I don't know why 173 00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:19,920 No, but this thing was about it's never been a trend. I mean, 174 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,890 as far as I know, I mean, I checked with all of my racist 175 00:10:22,890 --> 00:10:26,790 friends and they said, Nah, man, the news was cool, but it's 176 00:10:26,790 --> 00:10:29,370 bleached. No, we hadn't come up with that one. I've never heard 177 00:10:29,370 --> 00:10:29,670 that. 178 00:10:30,660 --> 00:10:34,560 Right. So I don't know either. Um, but Beck said the news 179 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:41,400 thing. That was that was the linchpin for me that I want I'm 180 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:47,700 gonna explain to you why that was such a triggering, um, prop 181 00:10:47,940 --> 00:10:52,770 and this whole situation it has significance but that's like 182 00:10:52,770 --> 00:10:57,180 that's just the background of it. We got a Nigerian scam 183 00:10:57,210 --> 00:11:03,450 artists we hopping on planes and we got a Star Star Empire Empire 184 00:11:03,450 --> 00:11:07,890 star, um, at the height of his career pulling something like 185 00:11:07,890 --> 00:11:11,970 this. So it's just it was a weird story. And I knew for the 186 00:11:11,970 --> 00:11:16,950 very beginning that was a scam or hoax. And I'll explain why 187 00:11:16,950 --> 00:11:21,990 later, but just give give when I first heard the story, I'm doing 188 00:11:21,990 --> 00:11:24,930 my normal routine, iron my clothes getting ready for work. 189 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:28,050 And it comes across like that Fox Morning Show. Kind of not 190 00:11:28,050 --> 00:11:33,030 Fox News, but the fox local show Fox five in DC. And I'm sitting 191 00:11:33,030 --> 00:11:37,770 here listening to and I'm like, this is bullcrap. But I didn't. 192 00:11:38,220 --> 00:11:42,420 I didn't have the facts. Family, man. Are you so? Mrs. Facts had 193 00:11:42,420 --> 00:11:42,660 to be 194 00:11:43,950 --> 00:11:45,570 brought in? Yes. Right. 195 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,020 So I'm going on and on about how this is bullcrap button him, 196 00:11:49,980 --> 00:11:54,360 rightfully so was proven correct. So with that said, 197 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,190 let's go and get to the second clip from Dan. 198 00:11:56,730 --> 00:12:01,410 Prosecutors later pointed out that there were also no messages 199 00:12:01,410 --> 00:12:05,790 or calls between MILLETTE and osundairo that canceling the 200 00:12:05,790 --> 00:12:08,130 training session after the attack, right think about that 201 00:12:08,130 --> 00:12:11,340 if they had a training session scheduled. Right. He would have 202 00:12:11,340 --> 00:12:13,380 called him after the attacks that by the way, I'm not gonna 203 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:16,050 be able to have our training session. But prosecutors don't 204 00:12:16,050 --> 00:12:18,570 believe there's training session. So yesterday small let 205 00:12:18,570 --> 00:12:22,020 claimed he and Abel us and Daryl had multiple sexual encounters 206 00:12:22,020 --> 00:12:25,590 in private rooms in Chicago bathhouses claims which 207 00:12:25,620 --> 00:12:29,160 osundairo denies but somewhat testified he didn't even 208 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,510 recognize Osen DeRose voice during the assault, saying in 209 00:12:33,510 --> 00:12:35,790 that moment, I'm not going to stop and say hey, bola a 210 00:12:35,790 --> 00:12:39,450 nickname for him? Is that you? It was an attack it happened 211 00:12:39,450 --> 00:12:42,540 fast. Small. I'd also admitted today that he driven the 212 00:12:42,540 --> 00:12:45,660 osundairo brothers to his apartment building downtown in 213 00:12:45,660 --> 00:12:49,650 the days preceding the allegedly fake assault. Video from the day 214 00:12:49,650 --> 00:12:52,680 shows the group circling smell Let's block multiple times 215 00:12:52,770 --> 00:12:57,300 passing the staircase where the assault took place. Three times. 216 00:12:58,020 --> 00:13:01,590 Smart offered inconsistent explanations. And last week 217 00:13:01,590 --> 00:13:04,350 Yoson DeRose testified that the meeting was a dry run for the 218 00:13:04,350 --> 00:13:07,980 fake assault number yesterday Smith had testified that he was 219 00:13:07,980 --> 00:13:11,310 attacked by a large man and a ski mask with quote, pale skin. 220 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,280 He assumed the man was white because the racial slurs the 221 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,270 attacker used during the assault. But today when pressed 222 00:13:18,270 --> 00:13:20,700 about his recollection of the attack, as well as his initial 223 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:23,940 interviews with Chicago detectives investigating smell 224 00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:27,540 had acknowledged that he told officers the attackers were 225 00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:31,530 white. He also denied telling police he was the victim of a 226 00:13:31,530 --> 00:13:34,050 hate crime saying that he merely told him he was attacked. 227 00:13:34,949 --> 00:13:38,999 Whenever I hear Chicago bathhouses I can't help but be 228 00:13:38,999 --> 00:13:40,979 triggered to think of Barry s 229 00:13:41,459 --> 00:13:45,119 you know it had to be an Obama connection there even though 230 00:13:45,119 --> 00:13:49,229 it's not very specifically but Chicago bear bathhouses is 231 00:13:49,229 --> 00:13:53,519 synonymous with Obama yep so um so you know they gotta be you 232 00:13:53,519 --> 00:13:59,879 somewhere lurking in the shadows um, on this topic but so we got 233 00:13:59,879 --> 00:14:07,739 the story laid out and what kind of gay is Jessie aka juicy to 234 00:14:07,769 --> 00:14:12,179 our another fellow gay man the way he just did because he said 235 00:14:12,179 --> 00:14:16,739 the guy that pieces pulled it had relations with keep that he 236 00:14:16,739 --> 00:14:19,889 was having relationships with relations with him in Chicago 237 00:14:19,889 --> 00:14:24,959 bathhouses. isn't that bad form for being in the community to 238 00:14:24,959 --> 00:14:26,009 out somebody like that? 239 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,750 Yeah, I guess so. 240 00:14:31,020 --> 00:14:34,530 That's just, you know, it's kind of like dead naming and those 241 00:14:34,530 --> 00:14:37,140 kind of in misgendering Yeah, but 242 00:14:37,140 --> 00:14:39,540 when when your asses on the line and you're in court, you're 243 00:14:39,540 --> 00:14:40,860 gonna sing like a bird. 244 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,400 Or if you consider down low brother, which we talked about 245 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,870 before as well. So the way it seems is the one of the brothers 246 00:14:49,020 --> 00:14:50,970 may have not been openly gay. 247 00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:55,110 No way was definitely not protocol to do that. 248 00:14:55,170 --> 00:14:57,900 Yeah. So I just wanna I wanted to point out just to show you 249 00:14:57,900 --> 00:15:02,850 how desperate Jesse was to bring people down with him as he was 250 00:15:02,850 --> 00:15:06,930 going down in flames. So I got we got one last clip and then 251 00:15:06,930 --> 00:15:11,310 we're really gonna get into the under story. We're not going to 252 00:15:11,310 --> 00:15:15,990 do the cloths over blow by blow. Not gonna do. It's just not a 253 00:15:15,990 --> 00:15:19,410 core TV people. Yeah, we're not gonna do that we got some 254 00:15:19,410 --> 00:15:23,130 totally, of course, sound totally different in line. But 255 00:15:23,130 --> 00:15:26,430 let's go ahead and get the final piece of the story. Well, the 256 00:15:26,430 --> 00:15:27,210 what happened that night 257 00:15:27,689 --> 00:15:30,389 and when asked to be knows that the Osen DeRose were his 258 00:15:30,389 --> 00:15:33,839 attackers MILLETTE said, There's no way for me to know that. But 259 00:15:34,409 --> 00:15:37,409 then prosecutors pointed to video and GPS evidence as well 260 00:15:38,339 --> 00:15:41,459 as the brothers own testimony that they attacked him. In 261 00:15:41,459 --> 00:15:44,669 addition to that, that's more than questioned the brothers 262 00:15:44,669 --> 00:15:48,209 credibility. He said, Well, they're liars. They also said I 263 00:15:48,209 --> 00:15:50,969 had something to do with it. And that's not true. It was one 264 00:15:50,969 --> 00:15:53,999 other exchange that caught my attention. During last week's 265 00:15:53,999 --> 00:15:57,119 testimony from Abel osundairo smell. That's lawyers question 266 00:15:57,419 --> 00:16:01,139 whether the brothers had offered to refuse to testify in exchange 267 00:16:01,469 --> 00:16:06,089 for a million bucks each Yoson DeRose. Tonight during a second 268 00:16:06,089 --> 00:16:09,479 round of questioning today, so let's attorneys again brought up 269 00:16:09,479 --> 00:16:12,329 the bribe claims Muller testified the brothers made the 270 00:16:12,359 --> 00:16:15,749 offer but he turned them down. But later when the prosecution 271 00:16:15,749 --> 00:16:19,139 asked milette if the brothers actually made that offer, he 272 00:16:19,139 --> 00:16:22,769 heads saying, well, a representative for the pair had 273 00:16:22,769 --> 00:16:24,239 reached out to his team. 274 00:16:25,290 --> 00:16:28,380 Okay, so these guys had 2 million bucks to offer. 275 00:16:30,330 --> 00:16:32,700 I think they're what they were saying. They were going to 276 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:34,410 retract their Oh, 277 00:16:34,410 --> 00:16:38,070 they were going to retract their statements for a million bucks 278 00:16:38,070 --> 00:16:43,110 each. Yes. Please who? Well, okay, this someone was big money 279 00:16:43,110 --> 00:16:44,700 was all 280 00:16:44,730 --> 00:16:49,440 this. Jesse has a lot of famous and powerful friends. 281 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:53,430 Yes. Kamala Harris. Cory Booker. I know those. Yep. 282 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,610 Yep. We're going to get into some more about that. The main 283 00:16:56,610 --> 00:17:02,370 thing so this, I don't have any clips from Jesse, other than 284 00:17:02,370 --> 00:17:06,840 this one, because I didn't want to make it about him. Really. I 285 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,780 wanted to make it more about the event. But before we get into 286 00:17:09,780 --> 00:17:15,360 that one clip, the main takeaway from this is you can't do 287 00:17:15,420 --> 00:17:18,030 anything anymore without it being trapped. 288 00:17:18,090 --> 00:17:21,630 Yeah, the phone GPS, right. Well, no, no, no, no, 289 00:17:21,690 --> 00:17:24,450 he and I could have made this show could have been 10 hours 290 00:17:24,450 --> 00:17:26,640 because there's so many rabbit holes that go down. And this is 291 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,600 something I want to cover in the last tapes. Because I need more 292 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,170 visuals with it. But there's the thing in Chicago called pod 293 00:17:34,170 --> 00:17:36,900 cameras. Have you ever heard a pod cameras? 294 00:17:37,170 --> 00:17:43,440 Pod pod? Yes. Is that like the shot the shot the shot cams 295 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,630 where they detect gunshots and then 296 00:17:46,140 --> 00:17:50,400 located where these cameras they have on every corner? Almost. 297 00:17:50,430 --> 00:17:55,140 Okay. And this is how they track the the the brothers back from 298 00:17:55,140 --> 00:17:59,940 the scene? Yes. All the way. The pod cameras plus they had the 299 00:18:01,140 --> 00:18:05,580 determinant use used were private surveillance. Oh yeah. 300 00:18:05,580 --> 00:18:10,710 Ring ring cameras. Ring cameras? Yeah, Ring Ring doorbell. Oh, 301 00:18:10,710 --> 00:18:11,760 yeah, absolutely. 302 00:18:12,270 --> 00:18:16,950 32 Ring doorbells. What did they what did they call what did they 303 00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:22,440 call that? No, they call them private surveillance cameras or 304 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,140 something? Something that is the term they use. But the pod 305 00:18:25,140 --> 00:18:27,510 cameras. I was just wondering if you heard of that. And yeah, 306 00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:29,310 also did they license those through you? 307 00:18:31,380 --> 00:18:34,800 Thank you. That was writing up with all the lawsuit as we as we 308 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:35,190 spoke, 309 00:18:35,580 --> 00:18:39,900 you should be getting a piece of that money to hell. Yeah. So 310 00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:46,290 that's a whole nother thing. In this case, the ride sharing the 311 00:18:46,290 --> 00:18:47,160 text message. 312 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,730 All of that is tremor. Yes. That's such a good point. It's 313 00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:55,620 such a good point. You know, when we listed the other place, 314 00:18:55,890 --> 00:19:00,600 you know, people would park you know, like shitty old cars near 315 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,750 us that we could basically we'd see these crappy old cars, you 316 00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:07,320 know, tires gone, wheels gone and stuff like that. And like, 317 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:09,690 you know, and they and they wouldn't remove these, the 318 00:19:09,690 --> 00:19:12,660 police and Austin's holding a whole nother thing. Like, you 319 00:19:12,660 --> 00:19:15,480 know what, I just torched it. If I just torched it, then they'll 320 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,360 have to come. And then we decided against that because 321 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:21,600 ring cameras. Yeah, it's like you can't hide 322 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,980 you they have big track these guys all the way back to the 323 00:19:25,980 --> 00:19:29,490 airport from that spot. That's all for this surveillance. So I 324 00:19:29,490 --> 00:19:34,410 know you were like that because you the OTG Yeah. OTG got to 325 00:19:34,410 --> 00:19:38,520 kind of guy so um, yeah, so let's get into this one clip of 326 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:44,220 Jesse, aka juicy, and he's gonna explain why he thinks he was 327 00:19:44,220 --> 00:19:44,790 attacked. 328 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:48,570 Why do you think you were targeted? I can just assume. I 329 00:19:48,570 --> 00:19:51,570 mean, I come really, really 330 00:19:51,570 --> 00:19:53,610 hard. against 331 00:19:54,660 --> 00:20:00,450 45. I come really, really hard against has administered ration. 332 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,770 And I don't hold my tongue. You don't want to ask you about 333 00:20:04,770 --> 00:20:10,140 Jesse Smollett, I think that's horrible. doesn't get worse. As 334 00:20:10,140 --> 00:20:12,390 far as I'm concerned. Were you aware that he made that 335 00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:16,530 statement? I saw it. I don't know what to say to that. You 336 00:20:16,530 --> 00:20:22,890 know? You know, I appreciate him not brushing over it. 337 00:20:23,130 --> 00:20:27,210 And there is no doubt in your mind, what motivated this 338 00:20:27,210 --> 00:20:27,720 attack, 339 00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:35,550 I can only go off of their words. I mean, who says, impact 340 00:20:36,990 --> 00:20:43,710 this Magga country ties a noose around your neck, and pours 341 00:20:43,710 --> 00:20:47,370 bleach on you. And this is just a friendly fight. I will never 342 00:20:47,370 --> 00:20:52,770 be the man that this did not happen to I am forever changed. 343 00:20:53,670 --> 00:20:56,760 And I don't subscribe to the idea that everything happens for 344 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,400 a reason. But I do subscribe to the idea that we have the right 345 00:20:59,700 --> 00:21:03,540 and responsibility to make something meaningful. Out of the 346 00:21:03,540 --> 00:21:04,860 things that happen to us. Good. 347 00:21:05,790 --> 00:21:12,120 Oh, yeah. Yeah. And there it is, um, he's gonna make something 348 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:17,820 meaningful out of this, even if it's a hoax or not. Yeah. And he 349 00:21:17,850 --> 00:21:21,270 made it political. I didn't. He said this happened to him 350 00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:25,680 because he comes comes Harley 45. Yeah. What all that vocal 351 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,630 fraud. He may be a Hummer. But 352 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,050 yeah. Okay. I'll leave that where it is. 353 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:41,610 Oh, but yeah, that was when I heard. Everybody knew this was a 354 00:21:41,610 --> 00:21:44,850 hoax. Everybody except for those people. 355 00:21:44,879 --> 00:21:47,489 Can I tell you what my first inclination was? Because I 356 00:21:47,489 --> 00:21:50,759 immediately I of course, immediately Well, what the way I 357 00:21:50,759 --> 00:21:55,379 witnessed it first was Stephanie Ruhle. From MSNBC. I don't know 358 00:21:55,379 --> 00:22:00,419 if you have that clip or not. Not don't. She's the ex. She's 359 00:22:00,419 --> 00:22:01,889 like Goldman Sachs. 360 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,540 Let me see. We played a clip before I believe on the show you 361 00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:07,200 where she 362 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,670 was crying, she's crying. Oh, my goodness, I can't believe this 363 00:22:11,670 --> 00:22:16,050 is happening. And I'm looking at like, this sounds pretty weird. 364 00:22:16,260 --> 00:22:19,740 But what I found real quick was, and I'm sure you get into that 365 00:22:19,980 --> 00:22:23,970 is there was this bill out there from Kamala and Cory Booker, 366 00:22:24,060 --> 00:22:27,030 which was called the lynching bill or the anti lynching bill. 367 00:22:27,060 --> 00:22:27,690 And that's I'm 368 00:22:27,690 --> 00:22:29,550 going to ask you to put the goggles on. 369 00:22:32,220 --> 00:22:36,150 I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't mean 370 00:22:36,150 --> 00:22:37,650 to do goggles on engaged 371 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:45,150 even in 2020 to the future in the past. Oh, um, yeah, but 372 00:22:45,150 --> 00:22:48,120 we're gonna we're gonna talk about that, but we have to go 373 00:22:48,150 --> 00:22:52,560 even further back than that. Okay, thing, because that was 374 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,710 seemed like the genesis of it. But I have to give some context 375 00:22:55,710 --> 00:23:01,860 here. And this goes to our genesis of meeting. Oh, column 376 00:23:01,890 --> 00:23:07,200 Kamala Kamala Harris. I call it common, Kemal, um, wrote out her 377 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,160 president's presidency count on her candidacy for president on 378 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:17,820 January 20 2019. Right. And she was met with so much pushback, 379 00:23:17,850 --> 00:23:24,420 one well, specifically from the quote unquote, a Das, quote 380 00:23:24,420 --> 00:23:30,150 unquote FBA foundational blacks, whatever, by this contingency 381 00:23:30,150 --> 00:23:37,530 that I buy lineage I am a part of she was destroyed her her. 382 00:23:37,950 --> 00:23:41,610 Her campaign was null and void from the very beginning. That's 383 00:23:41,610 --> 00:23:41,940 because 384 00:23:42,330 --> 00:23:45,750 everybody knew like, no, no, we're not gonna do another Obama 385 00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:46,260 trick. 386 00:23:47,250 --> 00:23:50,400 Exactly. Man, that was the thing like what do you have to offer? 387 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,630 And the bill that you alluded to was one of those things that 388 00:23:54,630 --> 00:23:57,750 they tried to build up for her. So when she could step right 389 00:23:57,750 --> 00:24:02,760 into doing something for black people? Yeah. So yeah, so that 390 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,510 was one quote, unquote, her tangible, which we'll get, we'll 391 00:24:06,510 --> 00:24:09,900 get to the lynching thing. But I want to go back, we this is a 392 00:24:09,930 --> 00:24:13,380 five block clip, maybe we don't need to play all of them, just 393 00:24:13,380 --> 00:24:17,940 to give people context of what was going on at that time. But 394 00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:22,470 Kamala Harris, because she is the center point of this whole 395 00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:27,780 story. So now we have to go back joy and read with Shareen 396 00:24:27,780 --> 00:24:31,230 Mitchell. And this is the Russian bots clear part one. 397 00:24:31,980 --> 00:24:36,030 They appear to be a human, but they don't play a big gap. As as 398 00:24:36,030 --> 00:24:39,060 Adam just said, in the time that they've tweeted, and they tweet 399 00:24:39,060 --> 00:24:40,950 you should you respond to them. 400 00:24:41,580 --> 00:24:45,270 Generally, no, I mean, off the back, you should say back and 401 00:24:45,270 --> 00:24:48,540 just sort of watch their engagement, how many times are 402 00:24:48,540 --> 00:24:51,150 tweeting what they're tweeting about and even the topics in 403 00:24:51,150 --> 00:24:53,910 particular, and a lot of the ones that are pretending to be 404 00:24:53,940 --> 00:24:57,330 black people and black women in particular who are focusing on 405 00:24:57,330 --> 00:25:00,690 black identity have these sorts of aspects in the way They're 406 00:25:00,690 --> 00:25:04,050 talking about language. If we saw the other day, there was an 407 00:25:04,050 --> 00:25:08,100 account that was supposed to be for black supporting Howard 408 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:11,220 Schultz, that account was eventually pulled down. But that 409 00:25:11,250 --> 00:25:15,300 was a prime example of someone trying to mimic support from the 410 00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:18,720 black community for a particular candidate. So these kinds of 411 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,120 things that are happening at this moment, we have to pay a 412 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,000 little bit more close attention to it because there is nuance, 413 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:27,840 but there are also identifying factors. For example, right now 414 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,780 from the black identity framework, there's a new sort of 415 00:25:31,260 --> 00:25:36,780 hashtag and or identity that's in their bios called a D O S, or 416 00:25:36,780 --> 00:25:40,950 D. O S, which is standing for descendants of slaves. 417 00:25:41,730 --> 00:25:44,820 Yeah, this is the genesis of us. Yes. 418 00:25:45,450 --> 00:25:52,080 So this, honestly 2022 We're almost what is that? This was 419 00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:57,300 2019. Yeah, three years ago. So three years to the date almost a 420 00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:02,130 roughly when she first rolled her campaign out. This is my 421 00:26:02,130 --> 00:26:05,490 Genesis, this has been this least her you know, us crossing 422 00:26:05,490 --> 00:26:10,830 paths. So this story has a lot of history to it for me so and 423 00:26:10,830 --> 00:26:14,520 they coming off of last show talking about poke sees and 424 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,720 people making false claims and being false victims. I hope 425 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:24,630 everybody gets the roll over into into this show. Um, if you 426 00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:27,900 haven't heard that, that's the Duke lacrosse case. So as you 427 00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:32,550 see, this was right after she made her announcement. She was 428 00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:37,500 getting flamed on on social media. And to the point where 429 00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:40,500 they had to blame it on bots. Russian bots. 430 00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:45,510 Yeah, that's what I picked up. I picked up the, hey, wait a 431 00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:48,030 minute, that's not bots, that's that's people and that their 432 00:26:48,030 --> 00:26:50,760 descendants of slaves or whatever. She said, that's all I 433 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,760 knew. And I was trying to figure that part out. That's when you 434 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,600 reached out to me. 435 00:26:55,050 --> 00:26:59,610 Yes. Cuz you said Das. And then that's why I added the A to it. 436 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,720 Because it matters that a matters. Because what they try 437 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,290 to do is this is the lumping together the color people that 438 00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:14,250 aka people of color. They try to put everything into this black 439 00:27:14,250 --> 00:27:19,770 label. And this is like really the point where people a das 440 00:27:19,770 --> 00:27:23,820 lineage was really making a stating a claim that Retrospec 441 00:27:23,820 --> 00:27:28,560 you mentioned before, that we won't have another Obama. So 442 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,080 let's go ahead and get into the second part of that clip. 443 00:27:31,290 --> 00:27:35,130 So it's the indication that they are, they are someone who was 444 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:38,400 born in, you know, as a descendant in the United States, 445 00:27:38,430 --> 00:27:43,320 who was representing black America and has the vernacular 446 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,320 and the language that people will believe it's someone who's 447 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,680 a part of our community who's either debating about Kamala or 448 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,580 debating about Booker, because that's who just announced and 449 00:27:53,580 --> 00:27:56,940 trying to say, we know who's the most, you know, who's who's 450 00:27:56,940 --> 00:28:00,810 black in America and making sure that they're, you know, sort of 451 00:28:00,810 --> 00:28:03,570 talking in this vernacular that makes it look like they are 452 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:06,000 American? Yeah, yeah. 453 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,780 I mean, I did see a huge uptick in bot activity when it came to 454 00:28:09,780 --> 00:28:09,900 when 455 00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:15,630 it just dropped a bomb really quickly. And she was to be not, 456 00:28:16,050 --> 00:28:17,700 uh, not really black. Not, not really. 457 00:28:19,619 --> 00:28:22,439 You can see that happening. But actually, there was uptake of 458 00:28:22,439 --> 00:28:25,949 those bots, just before she was about to announce so they were 459 00:28:25,949 --> 00:28:27,509 preparing for her announcement. 460 00:28:28,110 --> 00:28:31,500 I love if you kind of take this all the way through. You could 461 00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:35,130 almost say, Silicon Valley, man, they suck so bad. There's so 462 00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:38,130 racist. They can't even make black bots properly. 463 00:28:38,940 --> 00:28:41,880 Well, this is Putin's bots. So rice, Russian 464 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,790 bots. Yeah, of course. What am I thinking? Yeah, you can't put 465 00:28:44,790 --> 00:28:48,990 this on. I love it. I love how I love how joy and read says, oh, 466 00:28:48,990 --> 00:28:50,970 yeah, no, I see the bots come on immediately. 467 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,170 Oh, yeah. Wow. Okay, Mom, what she said she used the word bomb. 468 00:28:56,100 --> 00:29:01,200 In she's right. In her. The Obama analogies, right? Yes. 469 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,490 Because soon it was like, people were waiting on commodity to 470 00:29:05,490 --> 00:29:09,330 drop because they saw the Obama Okey doke being played out. Once 471 00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:15,180 again, this was not a candidate. Yeah, this was not our 472 00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:19,080 candidate. This was a this was a package product that they were 473 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,370 trying to push us. And we said no. And not only was it that, 474 00:29:23,370 --> 00:29:26,790 you know, her politics was a problem. The fact that they were 475 00:29:26,790 --> 00:29:32,970 trying to bike kind of force her to force her own us as being 476 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,680 kind of a das when they use this term black so loosely. And this 477 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,850 is why it's so important that we coined a term for political 478 00:29:41,850 --> 00:29:45,600 reasons and lineage reasons to identify that our claim is 479 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:51,870 specific. And our domain demands are specific political demands 480 00:29:51,870 --> 00:29:52,530 are specific. 481 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,770 Now at this time there was some there's also some confusion 482 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,990 added to it by the group out in California forgotten the the 483 00:30:00,990 --> 00:30:04,020 guy's name again, the lawyer, boom. You know, they're saying 484 00:30:04,020 --> 00:30:06,930 we're the A das group. And that was like the A das political 485 00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:10,290 group versus the A das lineage group, which is poorly 486 00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:11,490 understood by all 487 00:30:11,790 --> 00:30:15,180 right. So you're talking about tone talk. Yeah, tone talks, 488 00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:19,860 right. And so you get Kearney though. Yeah, I have to give 489 00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:23,160 them credit because they're the one that brought the A das 490 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,090 hashtag to popularity. And this is this I want to show people 491 00:30:27,090 --> 00:30:31,470 this is the power of hashtags. Because when you can give a nice 492 00:30:31,470 --> 00:30:35,730 clean hashtag that everybody can put their energy behind, you can 493 00:30:35,730 --> 00:30:40,440 take down a political candidate in their tracks. And this is 494 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,490 what really, this was the they were trying to hide this, the 495 00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:48,960 fact that these people that are loosely linked, if not linked to 496 00:30:48,990 --> 00:30:53,100 all been by nothing but a lineage and a hashtag destroyed 497 00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,980 who should have been president now. That was the whole goal. 498 00:30:56,010 --> 00:31:01,080 They were this was her big rollout. Joe Biden was a in my 499 00:31:01,770 --> 00:31:05,760 perspective, Joe Biden was a backup plan. He was despair. 500 00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:10,920 political candidate, she was their first choice. 501 00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:14,430 That's a good take and what what's baffling about that is 502 00:31:14,430 --> 00:31:21,270 how can you fall for it? How can you fall for the concept that a 503 00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:25,560 Doss America is going to put up with that shit? Well, I'm glad 504 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,590 you haven't done the research. You know, what, who's talking to 505 00:31:28,590 --> 00:31:28,980 you? 506 00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:33,090 What the problem? Well, they had the audacity to think they could 507 00:31:33,090 --> 00:31:36,060 do this. Now we're going to get to another set of throwback 508 00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:38,310 clips. And this is very important. We're not rehashing. 509 00:31:38,490 --> 00:31:40,890 One we got a lot of new listeners to this was three 510 00:31:40,890 --> 00:31:44,790 years ago, and three. Now looking through the lens of 511 00:31:44,790 --> 00:31:47,280 where we're at now backwards, you can clearly see it is going 512 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,370 to answer your question. They have big media and they 513 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,060 understand the power of independent media. And to hear 514 00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:56,580 that play out the big media and how they were trying to force 515 00:31:56,580 --> 00:32:01,380 this through. We have Don Lemon, and he's talking to April Ryan, 516 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:01,950 about 517 00:32:02,490 --> 00:32:05,970 my favorite people. This is great. I love these people. 518 00:32:05,970 --> 00:32:06,360 This. 519 00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:09,990 This is about Kamala Harris is African American. Yeah. So 520 00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:10,260 April, 521 00:32:10,260 --> 00:32:13,560 listen, the the only black woman in the 2020 campaign is fielding 522 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,500 questions about race and I just want to play for you what Kamala 523 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:18,900 Harris said to the Breakfast Club when she was asked about 524 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,840 how people on social media are questioning if she's African 525 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,380 American. 526 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,270 Another meme says a Kamala Harris is not African American. 527 00:32:27,270 --> 00:32:30,060 Her parents were immigrants from India, in Jamaica, and she was 528 00:32:30,060 --> 00:32:32,190 raised in Canada, not the United States. 529 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,900 In fact, 530 00:32:35,340 --> 00:32:43,200 I was born in Oakland. And, and raised in the United States, 531 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,750 except for the years that I was in high school in Montreal, 532 00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:49,080 Canada. And look, this is the same thing they did to Brock. 533 00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:54,960 Yes, this is this is not new to us. And so I think that what 534 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,870 they're trying to do, they're trying to do what has been 535 00:32:57,870 --> 00:33:01,680 happening over the last two years, which is powerful voices, 536 00:33:01,890 --> 00:33:05,730 trying to sow hate and division among us. And so we need to 537 00:33:05,730 --> 00:33:07,530 recognize when we're being played. 538 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,330 Wow, this is fantastic. I didn't realize that you didn't even 539 00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:18,030 answer the question. No, I, this is this is this is mind blowing. 540 00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:22,020 And then to say, Well, I was born in Oakland, as you know, 541 00:33:22,020 --> 00:33:25,980 that gives you black creds. Have you looked at Oakland? Oakland 542 00:33:26,010 --> 00:33:29,580 more white than it then you can then then then the hill country? 543 00:33:30,150 --> 00:33:31,770 Right? It's not black anymore. 544 00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:35,820 She She says this is what she this is what they do to 545 00:33:35,910 --> 00:33:39,390 us. Oh, another good one. I wouldn't catch that. Of course. 546 00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:40,380 Yeah. Who is 547 00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:42,720 the US that she's talking about? Is she talking about people like 548 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,920 her maracas test 549 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,700 your sister man. What? Yeah. Well, if it's me in Brockton, 550 00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:50,820 yeah. Then yeah. Okay, that's fine. Of course, they do that to 551 00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:51,900 you because you're phony. 552 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,890 The thing is, don't try to graft yourself in to a lineage that's 553 00:33:58,890 --> 00:34:00,510 not your embrace your any 554 00:34:01,710 --> 00:34:07,830 arrogant. It's, I'm sorry, I just have to. I just have to say 555 00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:11,520 this. I cannot I cannot believe that there that politically 556 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,510 stupid. But I mean, what it shows is, they think black 557 00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:17,100 people are stupid. 558 00:34:18,210 --> 00:34:25,410 Hello. Hello. And they learn their lesson. Learned there. And 559 00:34:25,410 --> 00:34:31,950 this is wow. This was show 15. So 15. We're going through this 560 00:34:31,950 --> 00:34:35,790 real time. So if people want to go back and listen, you can see 561 00:34:35,790 --> 00:34:40,860 how this played out from 15 to forward. Yeah, yeah. Santa's 18 562 00:34:40,860 --> 00:34:44,520 is coming out with 1815 was when they tried to do the Russian bot 563 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,920 thing. So we followed the whole development and the destruction 564 00:34:49,950 --> 00:34:55,140 of a political candidate by grassroot efforts. And right it 565 00:34:55,140 --> 00:34:58,860 is arrogancy to say, You know what, we know what's best for 566 00:34:58,860 --> 00:35:01,530 black people when we can put our brown person out here called 567 00:35:01,530 --> 00:35:06,660 them black black being used in the term of African American 568 00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:12,210 with or a Das. On desk. This is why this term is very dangerous 569 00:35:12,210 --> 00:35:16,020 because even in the title, they said Donlin as if Kamala Harris 570 00:35:16,050 --> 00:35:19,200 is African American, that when you when they use the term 571 00:35:19,230 --> 00:35:25,200 African American, they're using as a das as a synonym to a Das, 572 00:35:25,410 --> 00:35:28,740 which she's which she is not. Because if that's the case, then 573 00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:32,130 we got to say, Elon Musk is the richest African American of all 574 00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:32,520 time. 575 00:35:33,060 --> 00:35:34,710 Exactly, exactly. 576 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,220 We got to be very careful with these tariffs. And they learned 577 00:35:38,220 --> 00:35:41,880 their lesson. And they're still learning their lesson. But this 578 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:48,060 was the arrogance of the Democratic Party. And they 579 00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:50,670 learned I said, not to repeat myself, but they learned their 580 00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:55,020 lesson. But April Ryan is going to push back against Don Lemon. 581 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,630 Oh, African Americans. 582 00:35:57,690 --> 00:36:01,170 This is a great clip isn't one this is by the way, this show 583 00:36:01,170 --> 00:36:04,620 has receipts people just so you know, this is not This is stuff 584 00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:08,100 that we've done. So glad you're here. What do you make of her? 585 00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:14,280 Is it good for her? A lot to unpack here. 586 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,460 Yeah. What does black enough mean? Can someone give me a 587 00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:20,730 definition of what Black is enough is I don't want to go 588 00:36:20,730 --> 00:36:23,280 down the road of the stereotype. When people say we're black. 589 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:23,850 Number one, 590 00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:27,120 she is a black woman. She's a mixed race woman. When you see 591 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,990 her you see her blackness, but she is also South Asian. Her mom 592 00:36:30,990 --> 00:36:31,680 is South Asian 593 00:36:31,770 --> 00:36:32,880 and her dad is to make 594 00:36:32,910 --> 00:36:37,200 April, April, April. I mean, listen, more power to her. And I 595 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,730 think that's great. That is that should be enough. It is enough 596 00:36:41,730 --> 00:36:46,620 that she's a black woman. We are not a model. To say oh, no, no, 597 00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:49,500 no, no, I think it's like you're not you're not hearing what 598 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:51,930 people are saying. The people who are saying she blacking out 599 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,810 that's bold, that's BS. But to, to to distinction to say, is she 600 00:36:57,810 --> 00:37:03,270 African American? Or is she black? Or she? Whatever, that 601 00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:05,700 what's there is nothing wrong with that. There is a difference 602 00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:10,260 between being African American and being black. Let people let 603 00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:13,560 people Latino people are people of color, but they're not black. 604 00:37:13,590 --> 00:37:17,160 They're brown people. She's okay. But she is a black woman. 605 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,220 Okay, that's why I agree with that. I agree with that. But is 606 00:37:20,220 --> 00:37:24,540 she African American? But is she African American? There's a 607 00:37:24,540 --> 00:37:26,490 difference. There's nothing wrong with that. No one is 608 00:37:26,490 --> 00:37:32,160 trying to take anything away from her. And all she had to do 609 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,220 was say I am black. No, I'm not African American. 610 00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:39,150 I love Don Lemon for this. That was so that was so proper of 611 00:37:39,150 --> 00:37:39,540 him. 612 00:37:40,350 --> 00:37:43,950 It was oh, he had to pay and we've we've documented without 613 00:37:43,950 --> 00:37:50,490 receipt that he had to kowtow. Yep. After this. And and, you 614 00:37:50,490 --> 00:37:53,880 know, eat his words, even to the point where he does have 615 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,020 involved involvement with Jesse as well as the story develops 616 00:37:58,230 --> 00:38:02,520 with Jesse Smollett, later down the line. So I didn't go to so 617 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,910 many rabbit holes with this story, that it was like, man, 618 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:09,240 which which angle do you take? Right? Well, I want to use this 619 00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:14,340 as a good point to go back a year later, to show I mean that 620 00:38:14,370 --> 00:38:17,160 this is their candidate. This was their original candidate 621 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,310 being Kamala Harris. The antics that they tried to use, 622 00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:25,950 including Jussie Smollett, to endear her to us. And it didn't 623 00:38:25,950 --> 00:38:29,970 work. You can hear how hard April Ryan is working. And I 624 00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:33,510 wonder if Don what what angle is Don working from a nice set of 625 00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:38,520 clips? Is he control opposition? Or is he was he backing another 626 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,810 candidate at this time? You know, that? I just can't figure 627 00:38:42,810 --> 00:38:45,510 out his well, you know, on this day. Okay. 628 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,630 So first question, April Ryan a Das? 629 00:38:49,890 --> 00:38:53,250 I believe so. I'll do a quick check while you while you're 630 00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:53,430 doing 631 00:38:53,460 --> 00:38:56,550 I mean, it'll be more authentic for April Ryan to say I grew up 632 00:38:56,550 --> 00:39:01,770 in Baltimore, which he did then Kamala Harris I was born in, in 633 00:39:01,770 --> 00:39:09,180 Oakland. The thing about Don Lemon is I think that he is how 634 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:14,040 can I say this? I feel authenticity from him often. I 635 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,850 feel authenticity from him as a man I feel authenticity for him 636 00:39:17,850 --> 00:39:20,940 as a black man. I feel authenticity from him as a gay 637 00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:27,750 man. It shines through but he's in an environment and you know, 638 00:39:28,020 --> 00:39:33,210 it's just this one went too far for him. He'll he'll do anything 639 00:39:33,390 --> 00:39:37,050 necessary but he went this I think that was something in him 640 00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:43,140 that said, No, I just can't I cannot deny my own existence 641 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,130 with this bullshit. 642 00:39:45,930 --> 00:39:49,380 honorees. I'll push back against that is what we've seen. And 643 00:39:49,380 --> 00:39:55,110 maybe this was Dan's last stand. We call them on the show Donald 644 00:39:55,110 --> 00:39:59,670 lemon. Can't forget Yeah, this was Donald Lim cuz he jumped 645 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,200 Armenia talents prior to this, and after this, I don't know if 646 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,050 he was trying to give them some advice like, hey, boots on the 647 00:40:07,050 --> 00:40:09,870 ground is saying they're not filling her. Maybe this is not 648 00:40:09,870 --> 00:40:13,830 the right tape. I'll say that but possible reads what he's 649 00:40:13,830 --> 00:40:19,560 told to read. And he's told he does what he's told to do. Um, 650 00:40:19,590 --> 00:40:22,860 because we see how CNN has been exposed recently. Yeah, but just 651 00:40:22,860 --> 00:40:24,540 their whole shop. Oh, there is 652 00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:30,270 we, when you have a free form, interview, I mean, I've had it 653 00:40:30,270 --> 00:40:33,720 you know, sometimes just go too far. If you do it every single 654 00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:36,420 night and just you know, he just went went off the reservation, 655 00:40:36,420 --> 00:40:38,220 but I think that was I think that was sincere. 656 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,080 Yes. I'll give you that. I'll give you that. But, um, speaking 657 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,490 of sincerity, we now we have to go over and this is post her 658 00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:52,440 dropping out in a race. This is Roland Martin, aka who Sam 659 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:57,900 Boulais. Number one. Yeah. He goes in and has a rant about the 660 00:40:57,900 --> 00:41:00,390 tax on Kamala Harris and her blackness. 661 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,340 Donald Trump Jr. is Fredo and he clearly can't read a bio. All he 662 00:41:05,340 --> 00:41:08,400 has to do is go read the bio Senator Kamala Harris, that you 663 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,700 understand her background and so he's probably the dumbest of all 664 00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:14,880 the Trump children. But but here's the real issue here, the 665 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,450 attack so sooner Kamala Harris's blackness really started, the 666 00:41:18,450 --> 00:41:21,960 moment she announced, and where it's really coming from. This is 667 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,980 Black self hate. cloaked in black self love. There are 668 00:41:25,980 --> 00:41:29,100 people out there who are saying that because she is not a 669 00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:33,180 descendant of slaves, she really can't speak to the black 670 00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:36,360 experience. They dismissed the fact that she went to an HBCU 671 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,750 they dismiss for actual background. And that's what the 672 00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:42,480 real issue here they are black people out there who are angry 673 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,120 that they say who say Obama didn't do enough for African 674 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,170 Americans. And what they're not doing is demanding really policy 675 00:41:49,170 --> 00:41:51,750 questions. You're questioning her blackness, you may have some 676 00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:54,960 fools out there who are black, especially a lot of black men 677 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,520 who are criticizing her because her husband is white. And so I 678 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,790 understand that folks are talking about Donald Trump Jr. 679 00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:06,720 Repeating this, but really, you've got some asinine black 680 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:10,260 folks out there, who are the ones who are questioning her 681 00:42:10,260 --> 00:42:12,600 blackness, and they are shameful, and they are 682 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,780 despicable. And they should be called out at every turn. 683 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,420 Can Roland Martin show his a das card? 684 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:24,930 No, he cannot do so. And listen to the language. Fools. Yeah, 685 00:42:24,930 --> 00:42:28,110 asinine. It was complete shaming, and they didn't 686 00:42:28,110 --> 00:42:31,770 understand the more they shamed, the worse they got, the harder 687 00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:37,050 we clamp down on their candidate. The harder more they 688 00:42:37,050 --> 00:42:39,870 shamed, the harder we can and 689 00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:42,720 she was there's something there. There's something there that he 690 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:49,260 said that they're discussing. He said, they're not looking at 691 00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:53,190 their policies that just looking at her blackness. And I think 692 00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:56,280 that's correct, but I think it's correct, because they already 693 00:42:56,670 --> 00:43:02,370 they the blacks already went through the Obama Apollo will 694 00:43:02,370 --> 00:43:06,090 policy it'll be okay. Go ahead. There 695 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:11,250 was a there was a vein in I'm loosely part of that vein, it 696 00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:15,810 was people that's been fed up with this is this is your 697 00:43:15,810 --> 00:43:21,330 candidate, shut up, go vote. Don't ask for anything. And we 698 00:43:21,330 --> 00:43:24,600 did have policy questions. And she was at I didn't put this 699 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,050 clip in here. She would ask specifically, what will you do 700 00:43:28,050 --> 00:43:32,880 specifically for a das people about reparation? Right. Okay. 701 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,180 Yes, 702 00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:34,080 I do remember that. 703 00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:37,710 And she said, clearly, I'm not going to do anything 704 00:43:37,710 --> 00:43:41,700 specifically for black people, not all people. And that was 705 00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:45,420 when she jumped into the grave and started to pull dirt on top 706 00:43:45,420 --> 00:43:49,830 of herself. And her political career. It was over when she 707 00:43:49,860 --> 00:43:55,020 made that declaration. It was over. But what I'm rolling wants 708 00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:58,710 to do is say Is she black enough? Yeah. Call us. She 709 00:43:58,710 --> 00:44:04,170 listens to two pockets. We'd much blacker Do you want um, and 710 00:44:04,170 --> 00:44:08,100 that was one of the things that she said was just a another 711 00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:11,070 scoop of dirt and all her political grave. And I'm 712 00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:14,460 speaking metaphorically here for for anybody that's listening. 713 00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:19,140 may want to highlight that. And another way we're talking about 714 00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:24,270 her political career, it was oh, it was over as soon as it began. 715 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:30,120 And this is the from the her rollout. Campaign rollout. Go 716 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:30,330 ahead. 717 00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:33,270 I was gonna say I had what's cool about this because I of 718 00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:37,830 course, I'm intimately familiar with most of the story. In 719 00:44:37,830 --> 00:44:41,400 something I didn't realize is the timing of the smell let with 720 00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:44,520 Kamala Harris. Of course, I know I see how this is coming 721 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,460 together. But I'm, I just want to mention like holy crap, I 722 00:44:47,460 --> 00:44:52,380 didn't realize the timing was so it's, it's all a part of the 723 00:44:52,380 --> 00:44:53,580 same timeline. 724 00:44:54,060 --> 00:44:59,160 Well, I'm gonna give you the timeline. I mean, just a couple 725 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:07,320 of days, anytime. Lie. She wrote out her campaign on 120 January 726 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:13,380 20, of 2019. January 22 is when Jesse Smollett received a racist 727 00:45:13,380 --> 00:45:17,010 and homophobic threatening letter man to the studio in 728 00:45:17,010 --> 00:45:18,480 Chicago was higher was 729 00:45:18,809 --> 00:45:21,779 that was the one with the letters cut out? Yes, like the 730 00:45:21,779 --> 00:45:26,369 serial killer. It was a nice touch I had to say it was 731 00:45:26,430 --> 00:45:32,970 with with Tylenol and they had put BC in there as well. So that 732 00:45:32,970 --> 00:45:39,000 was a 22nd 29th is when the actual event happened. So these 733 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,900 are days apart. No. And yeah, and just to go back to the anti 734 00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:45,450 lynching bill, part of it, you know, that plays into it as 735 00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:49,050 well. So, I think we stopped that 10 736 00:45:50,190 --> 00:45:50,970 We're 737 00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:56,760 not till 10 We got to play 1010 Now, yeah, and this is her. Once 738 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:04,080 again, stepping on a rake. Kamala Harris and Jesse Smollett 739 00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:10,020 are like almost twins in a way of the unforced errors of just 740 00:46:10,050 --> 00:46:15,180 overdoing it. So, this is her admitting to smoking weed, but I 741 00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:18,510 want to this is a long clip so you can stop it throughout the 742 00:46:18,510 --> 00:46:22,470 clip if you want to. But this is from the Washington Post. And 743 00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:25,800 this is right after she said it. This is her them trying to clean 744 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,670 up her mess that she had made with Charlemagne on guard, as I 745 00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:33,510 call it, because he's how protective he is of a commodity. 746 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,520 But this is number 10. 747 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,370 Kamala Harris's comments from her radio interview with The 748 00:46:38,370 --> 00:46:41,280 Breakfast Club are sparking controversy. 749 00:46:41,460 --> 00:46:43,620 Have you ever smoked way mitt? 750 00:46:44,549 --> 00:46:45,479 Yeah, 751 00:46:45,660 --> 00:46:52,950 I'm so tired of these puns. Well sparking sparking cat and not 752 00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:56,100 only did they write the stupid pond because you know, sparking 753 00:46:56,100 --> 00:47:00,060 up a joint etc. But then she even pauses to make sure that 754 00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:04,350 all the dumb Fox heard it. Oh, did you feel clever we are 755 00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:05,910 be prepared. 756 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:10,380 Okay. Harris's comments from her radio interview with The 757 00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:13,320 Breakfast Club are sparking controversy. 758 00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:14,340 Have you ever smoked? 759 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:22,470 Okay. And I inhale? I didn't I didn't. It was a long time ago. 760 00:47:22,650 --> 00:47:25,500 Harris explains her pro pot stance and admits that she 761 00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:29,340 indulged in the substance while in college. Then this exchange 762 00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:29,940 happened. 763 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,770 What does Kamala Harris listen to? 764 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,300 What were you listening to when he was? 765 00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:41,970 Oh, my goodness. Oh, yeah, definitely snoop. Tupac. Sure, 766 00:47:42,510 --> 00:47:45,090 people quickly jumped on what they saw as a contradiction 767 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,940 given that Tupac and Snoop Dogg were not producing music while 768 00:47:47,940 --> 00:47:50,940 she was in college. Harris graduated from Howard University 769 00:47:50,940 --> 00:47:53,940 in 1986, and later got her JD from the University of 770 00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:58,350 California in 1989. To Fox debut album to pocalypse now came out 771 00:47:58,350 --> 00:48:02,310 in 1991. And snoops first album, doggy style, followed a few 772 00:48:02,310 --> 00:48:06,090 years later in 1993. So if you're just listening to this 773 00:48:06,090 --> 00:48:09,000 piece on the radio, it sounds like Harris's memory is mixed 774 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,180 up. Or maybe she lied about what her stoner jams were in an 775 00:48:12,180 --> 00:48:15,420 attempt to sound cool at a time when more and more Democrats and 776 00:48:15,450 --> 00:48:18,420 even a few Republicans are on board with legal weed. But when 777 00:48:18,420 --> 00:48:21,030 you watch Harris's whole interaction on camera, the 778 00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:24,960 situation plays out very differently. DJ envy asks Harris 779 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,900 what she listens to what does Kamala Harris listen to? 780 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,040 Charlemagne then asks a separate question as an aside to the 781 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,240 Senator. We listen to when he was Hi. Harris politely laughs 782 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:41,520 But then makes eye contact with envy. Oh, my 783 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,660 goodness. Oh, yeah, definitely Snoop to PA 784 00:48:45,690 --> 00:48:48,390 so it's implied that she's answering envies question about 785 00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:51,960 what she listens to in general, rather than specifically what 786 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,930 she listened to while stone. Harris has been accused. 787 00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:02,610 Charlemagne clearly asked another question. Yeah. And she 788 00:49:02,610 --> 00:49:05,610 answered his question. So Washington Post is being very 789 00:49:05,610 --> 00:49:08,580 disingenuous witness with me well, less. 790 00:49:08,879 --> 00:49:14,129 Hello. Also, when when you're going to lie, it's easier to 791 00:49:14,129 --> 00:49:20,309 look at someone else. Correct. Correct. So yeah, 792 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,910 but he asked a specific question to her and she acknowledged his 793 00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:27,810 question. She sure did a yes. So this is null and void or 794 00:49:27,810 --> 00:49:30,750 whatever they're saying over the Washington Post. And we got to 795 00:49:30,750 --> 00:49:33,000 remember Washington Post is the one that wrote that letter 796 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:38,310 saying, basically, you need us Democratic Party when they want 797 00:49:38,310 --> 00:49:41,100 it commanded to be vice president so that they're the 798 00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:44,760 one that twisted the Democratic Party on to say, you have to use 799 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,290 her and now we want to female black female vice president and 800 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,310 you know, the first justice to be a black woman. So this was 801 00:49:53,310 --> 00:49:55,080 all done through the Washington Post so we can go ahead and 802 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,680 finish up this clip. I just want to point that out that she's not 803 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,310 paying attention. 804 00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:04,230 Oh my Goodness Oh yeah, definitely Snoop to PA. 805 00:50:04,259 --> 00:50:06,929 So it's implied that she's answering envies question about 806 00:50:06,929 --> 00:50:10,499 what she listens to in general, rather than specifically what 807 00:50:10,499 --> 00:50:13,559 she listened to while stoned. Harris has been accused of 808 00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:16,259 pandering because of the way this played out. And it's not 809 00:50:16,259 --> 00:50:18,719 the first time a politician has been put in that position on the 810 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:19,019 show. 811 00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:21,930 What's the wisdom in that you always carry with you hot sauce? 812 00:50:22,980 --> 00:50:24,570 Really? Yeah. Yeah. 813 00:50:25,470 --> 00:50:26,820 Good information right now. 814 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,100 So while Harris was trying to make her position on pot clear, 815 00:50:32,190 --> 00:50:35,040 she found herself in a pretty sticky situation. 816 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,950 Wow. Question, huh. Charlemagne said, Are you about to jump into 817 00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:45,210 formation? is he referring to like Beyonce formation? Yes. 818 00:50:45,210 --> 00:50:48,450 Which which Hillary didn't get by the way. She didn't get that 819 00:50:48,450 --> 00:50:49,110 at all. 820 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,850 Right. But doesn't that mean a whole different? Meaning now 821 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,860 what we're talking about with the whole 822 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,610 mass formation? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. 823 00:51:01,170 --> 00:51:04,890 That would also lead to people that still believe that Jesse 824 00:51:04,890 --> 00:51:07,650 Smollett was attacked. There are people out there and still to 825 00:51:07,650 --> 00:51:08,100 this day? 826 00:51:08,130 --> 00:51:11,190 Oh, sure. Of course, of course. Yeah. 827 00:51:11,220 --> 00:51:15,390 So this is another reason why this story is so important to go 828 00:51:15,390 --> 00:51:18,450 back in to say how can they still believe that but now what 829 00:51:18,450 --> 00:51:19,470 we're seeing with mass 830 00:51:20,610 --> 00:51:23,490 what's the what's the mass formation, then but not 831 00:51:23,490 --> 00:51:28,290 only that, but the whole site? The the whole push now with the 832 00:51:28,290 --> 00:51:36,990 whole collective psychological? Woolsey? Calm syndrome. The 833 00:51:36,990 --> 00:51:40,800 thing we're the thing with COVID. What I say everybody's 834 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:41,520 under that's, 835 00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:45,120 that's massive spills over? No, it's the mass formation or some 836 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,910 called the mass formation formation psychosis, which is 837 00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:50,760 incorrect. That's that's the one I put it but that's but it's 838 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,490 really mass formation, not mass formation, that's just been 839 00:51:53,490 --> 00:51:57,420 bastard. It's a separate story. I'm doing it on no agenda 840 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,860 tomorrow. But mass formation, the theory and what that is, has 841 00:52:01,860 --> 00:52:06,090 been hijacked by mass formation psychosis, which is Hitler, 842 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,140 which ended the whole understanding of what's really 843 00:52:10,140 --> 00:52:10,770 going on, 844 00:52:11,310 --> 00:52:15,060 which we've know. And just to give another tidbit of 845 00:52:15,060 --> 00:52:20,790 information on this, they will plant they capital, T H, E, why 846 00:52:20,910 --> 00:52:24,930 they will plant false information, and like a little 847 00:52:24,930 --> 00:52:31,080 nugget of false information and with a real analysis to make it 848 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,230 null and void. It's exactly what's happening. And to give 849 00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:37,260 you a sample witness situation with Kamala Harris and Jesse 850 00:52:37,260 --> 00:52:42,810 Smollett, they use one of saying that she was his aunt. So if you 851 00:52:42,810 --> 00:52:46,380 took that little nugget and put it into, you know, analysis or 852 00:52:46,380 --> 00:52:49,110 whatever, it made you it renders you, 853 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,480 Nolan void and idiot. Yeah, yeah, 854 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,410 it made you immediate and made perfect, I saw them give this 855 00:52:55,410 --> 00:52:59,790 gas. And I saw a bunch of content creators and podcasters, 856 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:05,790 jump on. There, you know, there's his nephew. And what it 857 00:53:05,790 --> 00:53:08,880 did was just destabilize the whole point, talking points 858 00:53:09,090 --> 00:53:11,550 around this whole situation. So I just wanted to point that out 859 00:53:11,550 --> 00:53:15,390 as well. Be careful, if you don't have vetted information 860 00:53:15,390 --> 00:53:18,960 and receipts, be careful on the information that you push for 861 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,230 it, because it could, you know, destroy everything that you're 862 00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:22,680 working to. 863 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,460 And I'll say it happens to me, it happens to me all the time, 864 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,600 you know that sometimes it's hard. Luckily, though, people 865 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,260 are out there catching it. And you just got to you got it 866 00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:35,580 wrong, you got to take the L quick, 867 00:53:36,030 --> 00:53:39,660 that's easier. Just accept that, yeah, I got 868 00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:43,350 no chip on my shoulder, I'm a washed up VJ, what the hell do I 869 00:53:43,350 --> 00:53:43,650 know? 870 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,710 Not only that, but we get bombarded with so much 871 00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:50,670 information sent, you know, by producers, which we appreciate. 872 00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:54,720 But at the same time, make sure you vet it, and everything and 873 00:53:54,720 --> 00:54:00,210 contexts. That way, we can make an educated decision, if it 874 00:54:00,210 --> 00:54:03,810 makes it to into the show or not, because it could easily 875 00:54:03,810 --> 00:54:06,510 decide miss and destabilize planning. 876 00:54:06,570 --> 00:54:10,620 And the here's one, here's one to watch out for. If it's a clip 877 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:16,200 that ends on the punch line, but stops after that, right? Because 878 00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:20,010 there's usually some context or a correction or something else 879 00:54:20,010 --> 00:54:24,030 that we didn't see. So you got to go to C span or, you know, to 880 00:54:24,030 --> 00:54:26,820 the YouTubes, you got to find the longer version. Because 881 00:54:26,820 --> 00:54:29,310 that's that's the one I get caught in most like, Oh, this is 882 00:54:29,310 --> 00:54:32,670 a great clip. And then I realized that was cut off in a 883 00:54:32,670 --> 00:54:35,790 certain way that the is kind of out of context. 884 00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:40,350 Yeah, so that's why it takes no agenda and Michelle so long to 885 00:54:40,350 --> 00:54:44,070 put together cuz we have to go back and that almost everything 886 00:54:44,070 --> 00:54:49,080 that we receive, of course, I'm giving a luxury to the two weeks 887 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:49,980 cycle that we have 888 00:54:50,010 --> 00:54:52,890 well, but this is also one of the few podcasts that as you 889 00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:56,100 say, has that luxury but it's so much that everyone jumps on the 890 00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:58,830 story right away. And then you know, it's kind of set in 891 00:54:58,830 --> 00:55:02,250 history. That's what happened. With more facts, we're gonna go 892 00:55:02,250 --> 00:55:06,120 back after we've had, it's had time to settle, and the pieces 893 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,430 have fallen down and you just pick them up, we actually have a 894 00:55:08,430 --> 00:55:12,180 lot of those pieces ourselves. And then Okay, now we can see 895 00:55:12,180 --> 00:55:14,670 the full picture, which is why I love this, you know, from the 896 00:55:14,670 --> 00:55:15,690 timeline perspective, 897 00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:22,050 and it's nice and cured, and it's all ready to be, uh, you 898 00:55:22,050 --> 00:55:26,730 know, enjoyed. So let's see, let's go ahead, so I'm gonna 899 00:55:26,730 --> 00:55:29,160 skip a clip, or you don't want to make reference to it. 900 00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:31,740 You don't want to do that. I think it's great. I think it was 901 00:55:31,740 --> 00:55:33,840 kind of like the kicker to how stupid she is. 902 00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:35,850 Well, let's go ahead and get into it. Yeah. 903 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,110 Well, Bubba, these are those moments that we love speedy 904 00:55:40,110 --> 00:55:44,100 secondhand embarrassment for you Come Yeah, I'm being interviewed 905 00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:48,840 on CNN. Baba being interviewed on CNN. She was asked by the CNN 906 00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:52,290 reporter who's just enamored with Air Force. Who does she 907 00:55:52,290 --> 00:55:54,930 think the best rapper lobbyists Here we go. 908 00:55:55,590 --> 00:56:04,650 And then best rapper alive. To pop. He lives on. I know I keep 909 00:56:04,650 --> 00:56:10,380 doing that. Listen, girls think Tupac lives on. I'm 910 00:56:10,380 --> 00:56:11,970 with you. I'm with you. So to 911 00:56:12,839 --> 00:56:18,239 me doing that. Yeah, you start hanging out with Josie catching 912 00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:29,999 the best NASCAR driver alive what she said she never. She 913 00:56:29,999 --> 00:56:32,729 said there's a lot of good ones out there. She had no 914 00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:37,800 best rapper alive to Bob sharp char. He was gunned down about 915 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:38,820 20 years ago. No. 916 00:56:42,180 --> 00:56:45,300 That's interesting, because now I know what she's saying. See, I 917 00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:50,820 keep doing that. And I think what what's she saying is I 918 00:56:50,820 --> 00:56:55,080 rehearse anything about black music. Just say Tupac. Hmm. And 919 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,320 and so she just keeps saying Tupac knows it. I smoke weed 920 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:03,720 Tupac, the best rapper alive Tupac Tupac was number one on 921 00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:08,370 the charts Tupac. Oh, man, and then to admit it like that. 922 00:57:09,390 --> 00:57:12,270 Which was weird. 923 00:57:14,460 --> 00:57:17,880 The reason why I chose that clip to use when you have guys named 924 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,430 Bubba laughing at you about your raps. 925 00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:24,750 They got a problem. They got a problem. Yeah, that it 926 00:57:24,750 --> 00:57:29,550 shows the depth of the No, she's the gift that keeps on giving to 927 00:57:29,850 --> 00:57:34,980 the Republican or right leaning pundits, because she just keeps 928 00:57:34,980 --> 00:57:38,550 stepping on rakes and she even said it herself. How do I keep 929 00:57:38,550 --> 00:57:43,530 making this mistake? And and she just has what they call and 930 00:57:43,530 --> 00:57:47,310 baseball and sports caught. She has the yips. He has the choke 931 00:57:47,310 --> 00:57:51,840 seat. She has all that when you look at her resume, everything's 932 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,440 there, right? She's a woman of color, you can say and if you're 933 00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:00,330 Angela around rye or April Ryan, you can make the horsetail that 934 00:58:00,330 --> 00:58:02,910 she's a quote unquote black woman. You know, she had the 935 00:58:02,910 --> 00:58:06,840 credentials, she has the big money Soros backing her. She has 936 00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:13,200 everything. But when it comes to speak, she's terrible. Sears, I 937 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:19,650 mean, it just amazes me how bad she is at her at her job. But 938 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,500 they this goes to show you that doesn't matter. They were going 939 00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:27,990 to force her on us at 2020 until the A das FBA native blacks, 940 00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:32,340 whatever term you want to use the black people of America with 941 00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:36,690 their lineage going back to this country as our Genesis. You 942 00:58:36,690 --> 00:58:40,050 know, we've said no, and this go. The reason why I'm pointing 943 00:58:40,050 --> 00:58:44,040 this out is this when you feel powerless. When you go on social 944 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,570 media and say no, this actually, collectively it has power if you 945 00:58:48,570 --> 00:58:53,130 have enough people pushing your stand pushing a certain time 946 00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:57,750 with a hashtag. Yes. And that's why I always will give Yvette 947 00:58:57,750 --> 00:59:03,360 and Tom toss their credit. Well, a DOS, right, that hashtag, not 948 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,970 what they did politically, they did some sleight of hand stuff, 949 00:59:05,970 --> 00:59:09,000 but that's just you got to give people credit where credit's due 950 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,180 and I always give them their credit for that pushing, you 951 00:59:12,180 --> 00:59:17,160 know, the awareness of this hashtag and it being a separate 952 00:59:17,220 --> 00:59:22,590 entity in the collectiveness of black in America. So, with that 953 00:59:22,590 --> 00:59:27,180 said, let me go ahead and get to why I thought Jussie Smollett 954 00:59:27,180 --> 00:59:31,140 was full of crap with his story because I have to lay this out. 955 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,580 The Jussie Smollett story came on first on Fox News I'm 956 00:59:35,580 --> 00:59:38,730 honoring my pants getting ready to go to work as I do every 957 00:59:38,730 --> 00:59:41,730 morning talking to the TV and my wife's rolling her eyes like 958 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,500 well this man please just stop 959 00:59:43,950 --> 00:59:46,770 and if I if I can just say something I'd like to say to all 960 00:59:46,770 --> 00:59:49,770 the white men in America take note of this. I learned this in 961 00:59:49,770 --> 00:59:54,030 college with from my roommate. Black men iron their clothes 962 00:59:54,030 --> 00:59:58,350 every day themselves. This is this is a culture a culture 963 00:59:58,350 --> 01:00:00,690 star. This is a cultural difference. I'm not saying 964 01:00:00,690 --> 01:00:03,000 there's no white men who don't iron their shirts, but it's a 965 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:08,940 cultural thing. Washing your own clothes and and ironing them. 966 01:00:10,050 --> 01:00:12,870 I'm glad you pointed it out because it is a thing. Yeah, 967 01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:14,370 he's a thing. Um, 968 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,850 I remember that. Hey, I remember time my room was like, Hasaan 969 01:00:18,210 --> 01:00:22,440 you gotta you gotta use some tide on that shit. And like, I 970 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,530 swear to God, it sounds so weird, right? But that's exactly 971 01:00:25,530 --> 01:00:28,860 what it was. And then he's and he's like, oh, man, let me show 972 01:00:28,860 --> 01:00:31,860 you how you What are you doing? Let me show you how to iron. He 973 01:00:31,860 --> 01:00:33,210 was so frustrated with me. 974 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:40,260 So let's okay, this is this is the reason why I thought jelly 975 01:00:40,290 --> 01:00:43,650 Do you remember? Jesse Smollett clip claim all and this story 976 01:00:43,650 --> 01:00:47,250 came? No. Well, I got order mixed up. This story came out 977 01:00:47,250 --> 01:00:50,340 and then the Jesse Smollett came on. This is the order. So this 978 01:00:50,340 --> 01:00:54,060 came home, we can go and play number 11. Prior to this, them 979 01:00:54,060 --> 01:00:55,380 announcing the Jussie Smollett story. 980 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,170 This sure does look dramatic, and I just found out that it is 981 01:00:58,170 --> 01:01:01,320 done in our area. More on that in a second. These images are of 982 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,590 Metro in Chicago, that's a commuter rail system, it uses 983 01:01:04,620 --> 01:01:08,970 open flames to heat up rails in the extreme cold. The heaters 984 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,760 are gas fed on maybe what's one of the most crucial parts of the 985 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,600 tracks. This is called a switch it swaps trains from one track 986 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,050 to another it is the only part of a rail system that moves the 987 01:01:19,050 --> 01:01:23,670 heaters keeps switches moving by melting snow and ice. If a 988 01:01:23,670 --> 01:01:27,600 switch gets clogged up that will stop trains in a hurry. Our 989 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,590 Metro does use open flame track heaters just not right now uses 990 01:01:31,590 --> 01:01:35,970 an open flame only during snow and ice storms. Now nothing is 991 01:01:35,970 --> 01:01:38,760 actually on fire though it sure does look like it is a sort of 992 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,180 like a burner on a gas stove. There is one unintended side 993 01:01:42,180 --> 01:01:46,590 effect of all this. The flames can burn within railroad ties. 994 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:51,000 That means they have to be replaced faster than usual. Pete 995 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,950 Muntean w USA nine. 996 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:54,780 Yeah, it was a cold one. 997 01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,960 It was historically. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 998 01:02:02,070 --> 01:02:07,890 This guy celebrity goes out into where they're cold enough where 999 01:02:07,890 --> 01:02:12,810 you had to set train tracks on fire. To go get a Subway 1000 01:02:12,810 --> 01:02:18,210 sandwich. And guess attack in Chicago by white guys in this 1001 01:02:18,210 --> 01:02:26,100 record? Oh, Cold Snap. By yelling Hey, Empire. No, no, no, 1002 01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:30,090 no, that no, no, that's too that's too much. Now You 1003 01:02:30,150 --> 01:02:34,470 expected me to be dumb. And that was the whole thing. But that 1004 01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:37,770 was the sequence or the story show first. Then this Jesse 1005 01:02:37,770 --> 01:02:40,170 Smollett story came out. This was an actual clip. But 1006 01:02:40,350 --> 01:02:42,450 reporting this. I was like, that's interesting. God never 1007 01:02:42,450 --> 01:02:46,080 knew that. They said train tracks and whatnot, set them on 1008 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,460 fire. But he's burning claims to keep them warm. So that's what 1009 01:02:50,460 --> 01:02:52,770 caught my interest. I'm like, That's very interesting. I never 1010 01:02:52,770 --> 01:02:56,520 knew that. And now, I was like, man, it gets cold in Chicago. 1011 01:02:56,790 --> 01:03:01,770 And then they play the initial Jussie Smollett report. And I'm 1012 01:03:01,770 --> 01:03:06,540 like, pooled crap. I'm calling and my wife and my daughter you 1013 01:03:06,540 --> 01:03:09,300 know, I'm like, Man, I'm gonna miss goals. And 1014 01:03:09,810 --> 01:03:13,590 did they believe it? Initially, they were all in. Well, 1015 01:03:14,130 --> 01:03:17,580 I don't think they really cared. I mean, cuz, but Well, hold 1016 01:03:17,580 --> 01:03:20,820 on a sec. Now hold on a second. It's important, because here we 1017 01:03:20,820 --> 01:03:26,130 have two women, a Das. And the claim is Hey, there lynchin 1018 01:03:26,130 --> 01:03:30,270 brothers out there. They didn't care. So the whole idea was 1019 01:03:30,270 --> 01:03:32,520 stupid. Well, of course it was really only to trigger white 1020 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:37,890 people. But that said it did not goggles back on. 1021 01:03:38,129 --> 01:03:41,669 No, no, no, no, no. You hit it right on the head. This wasn't 1022 01:03:41,669 --> 01:03:45,839 for us. This wasn't for our consumption. God because you're 1023 01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:49,679 not walking Chicago. Random white dudes is walking from 1024 01:03:49,679 --> 01:03:58,019 black news in Chicago. No, no, no. No, that sounds right. None 1025 01:03:58,019 --> 01:04:02,039 of that sound right. But like I said, big deal sealer for me was 1026 01:04:02,639 --> 01:04:07,709 you're not going out for subway. Unless subway means something 1027 01:04:07,709 --> 01:04:12,689 totally different. Talking about Jared I mean, but I digress. I 1028 01:04:12,689 --> 01:04:19,379 got Chris Cooley on that way. Yeah. away for some pizza but I 1029 01:04:19,379 --> 01:04:23,129 don't get going out at that time of night to go get subway when 1030 01:04:23,129 --> 01:04:26,759 we like we said we have car services DoorDash was up and 1031 01:04:26,759 --> 01:04:30,419 coming then Uber Eats all these things and you're going out to 1032 01:04:30,419 --> 01:04:33,599 go get subway and I mean, we're talking about 1033 01:04:33,630 --> 01:04:36,300 do what everyone else does make a grilled cheese. Come on. 1034 01:04:36,330 --> 01:04:37,380 You're not going to go out. 1035 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,210 And the ramen noodles. That's a good that's a good bedtime snack 1036 01:04:42,210 --> 01:04:46,620 right there then grilled cheese and ramen. Oh, but yeah, that's 1037 01:04:46,620 --> 01:04:52,020 what did it for me. And a person that agrees with me is the only 1038 01:04:52,020 --> 01:04:56,910 black juror on the trial. And this is him being interviewed. 1039 01:04:56,910 --> 01:04:59,580 They said history makes no sense. I'm sure 1040 01:04:59,580 --> 01:05:03,300 who can victim actor Jussie Smollett for making up his story 1041 01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:06,300 about being attacked on the streets of Chicago is speaking 1042 01:05:06,330 --> 01:05:10,170 out today. He was actually the lone black juror on the case and 1043 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,190 he's confident he made the right decision because to him smallest 1044 01:05:14,220 --> 01:05:18,270 testimony make no sense. The lone black juror on the Jussie 1045 01:05:18,270 --> 01:05:22,260 Smollett trial is speaking out for the first time. In this 1046 01:05:22,260 --> 01:05:27,150 exclusive interview with W LS TV Andre hope says small let's 1047 01:05:27,150 --> 01:05:30,780 claim that he was attacked in a hate crime by the osundairo 1048 01:05:30,780 --> 01:05:33,690 brothers simply made no sense. 1049 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,980 Two o'clock in the morning, cold outside when you just use your 1050 01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:43,050 common sense, as what's there. Yeah, it just didn't add up. 1051 01:05:43,110 --> 01:05:45,960 Hope said one critical piece of evidence that convinced him 1052 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,950 smell that made up the story was the news, which police video 1053 01:05:49,950 --> 01:05:53,760 showed Smollett leaving on his neck for cops to see, 1054 01:05:53,940 --> 01:05:56,370 as an African American person, I'm not putting that noose back 1055 01:05:56,370 --> 01:05:57,060 on at all. 1056 01:05:59,130 --> 01:06:03,600 I didn't realize that he was the lone black Usher, which they 1057 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,750 pointed out incessantly. Is that something that's in there set up 1058 01:06:06,750 --> 01:06:09,240 for an appeal, like racist jury? 1059 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,470 I doubt it. I mean, I think they want this thing to go away. But 1060 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,690 um, yeah, he's 1061 01:06:17,220 --> 01:06:19,770 just interesting that that would be the makeup of a jury in 1062 01:06:19,770 --> 01:06:22,890 Chicago, a jury of his peers. Well, I guess his peers are 1063 01:06:22,890 --> 01:06:23,310 white. 1064 01:06:23,970 --> 01:06:26,250 I mean, where you get, you know, you had these disqualifying 1065 01:06:26,250 --> 01:06:30,930 questions? Have you heard the story? Feelings? And if you ask 1066 01:06:30,930 --> 01:06:36,870 me as a jurist like he's crazy. First of all, you go, you're 1067 01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:39,720 going outside that code. This is another this is another general 1068 01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:44,550 generalization. And we're talking about irony. As a as a 1069 01:06:44,550 --> 01:06:46,950 just severe generalization. 1070 01:06:46,980 --> 01:06:49,560 I get to do it in a minute to go, go go. Yeah, 1071 01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:50,850 people hate cold weather. 1072 01:06:51,150 --> 01:06:57,300 Now. Wait, does this go along with black people really don't 1073 01:06:57,300 --> 01:06:58,050 dig swimming? 1074 01:07:00,030 --> 01:07:04,020 No, I think that's a new thing. Oh, really? Yes. Because my 1075 01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:08,640 father, all my uncles, everybody could swim. Um, just as a quick 1076 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,760 story, they would throw you in. It will basically take you to 1077 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,030 the waterhole or swimming hall or wherever else, and they would 1078 01:07:15,030 --> 01:07:19,500 throw you in. And that's how you learn. That's how you learn. My 1079 01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:22,470 brother is deathly afraid of water until he went to the 1080 01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:27,300 military. Because my uncle grabbed him and gave him the old 1081 01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:32,040 traditional throwing you in him. My dad got a big disrupt over 1082 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,600 that. Oh, yeah. So I think this swimming thing, it's more of a 1083 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:41,100 generational thing. But call whether I'm telling you, as a 1084 01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:44,700 survey, if you ask any black person, are you going back out 1085 01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:48,240 to get some way and this temperature? No. That's a 1086 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,480 generalization. But news or we don't do the cold weather got? 1087 01:07:53,340 --> 01:07:53,850 hot at all? 1088 01:07:53,850 --> 01:07:55,800 I don't either. mobileread me, I don't either. 1089 01:07:56,310 --> 01:08:00,660 That's that's, that's too much. So we stopped that it makes no 1090 01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:03,660 sense. Let's go ahead and get to the part two of the tour. 1091 01:08:03,780 --> 01:08:07,890 This 63 year old retired civil servant says he had never seen 1092 01:08:07,890 --> 01:08:11,670 the TV show empire. I knew very little about small lead before 1093 01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:13,920 being selected to the jury. I was shocked. 1094 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,890 I was completely shocked that I was even picked at that point. I 1095 01:08:16,890 --> 01:08:18,810 took it very seriously. He says 1096 01:08:18,810 --> 01:08:23,040 he was disappointed to see he was the only black person on the 1097 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:23,550 panel. 1098 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:29,160 How can we say that this is a jury of your peers. There's only 1099 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,700 one African American and there were plenty there. So you could 1100 01:08:32,700 --> 01:08:36,780 have got 234 African Americans can handle the truth. And we can 1101 01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:39,450 give an impartial judgment on a case. 1102 01:08:39,480 --> 01:08:43,680 And while he has no doubts about smell, it's guilt. He's still 1103 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,840 left with one lingering mystery, 1104 01:08:46,020 --> 01:08:49,860 I still have not figured out a motive to why this has even 1105 01:08:49,860 --> 01:08:51,150 happened. He was a star 1106 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,010 mulatos awaiting his sentencing, he could face up to 15 years in 1107 01:08:56,010 --> 01:08:58,500 prison. But the jury says he hopes maletto only gets 1108 01:08:58,500 --> 01:09:02,010 probation and that Hollywood gives him a second chance. 1109 01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:06,210 Oh, really? About that. 1110 01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:10,200 So the jury of the peers thing, I think we need to do a better 1111 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,520 job of having peers but as I said before, when they doing 1112 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,210 jury picking certain question can disqualify you like, are you 1113 01:09:18,210 --> 01:09:22,260 aware of him on Empire that might disqualify a certain 1114 01:09:22,260 --> 01:09:25,980 segment of black people? Do you have an opinion on this case? It 1115 01:09:25,980 --> 01:09:28,920 was such a huge social media everywhere. Everybody knew about 1116 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,790 it. Yeah. Right you for him not to say he didn't know Jussie 1117 01:09:32,790 --> 01:09:36,900 Smollett was and he never seen the show that makes him rare, 1118 01:09:37,650 --> 01:09:40,080 just amongst black people, because it was kind of that kind 1119 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,110 of thing. Like, yeah, we're not rocking with Jesse. 1120 01:09:43,530 --> 01:09:46,590 But you're, you're you're correct there I think because 1121 01:09:46,620 --> 01:09:50,070 with every other high profile jury selection we've seen it's 1122 01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:53,460 been asked racist makeup to many white people. And this one 1123 01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:57,000 wasn't all they tried it but I don't think it played the same 1124 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,790 way. I think you're right. It's like make it go away. We don't 1125 01:09:59,790 --> 01:10:00,990 care. And 1126 01:10:00,990 --> 01:10:04,980 nobody wants to be on this jury shuts me because this do you 1127 01:10:04,980 --> 01:10:08,040 did? Was anybody really impartial? I mean, they do this 1128 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,590 thing. Have you heard about this dude? It's kind of hard not to 1129 01:10:10,590 --> 01:10:14,160 hear about this story right so of course a lot of people 1130 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:18,210 probably disqualified themselves with their opinions on the case. 1131 01:10:18,210 --> 01:10:23,520 So with that said, so he had what two questions there one Why 1132 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,220 did he leave the noose on his neck? So we may need to look 1133 01:10:26,220 --> 01:10:29,190 there I'm here maybe not. But this was my answer to start 1134 01:10:29,190 --> 01:10:33,360 costar had the same question which I had to answer, I felt 1135 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,440 compelled to call him and I was shaking like a leaf on a tree 1136 01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:40,740 because naturally, I'm not a public speaker. I'm not afraid 1137 01:10:40,740 --> 01:10:44,220 of public speaking. But just like I'm okay, just the first 1138 01:10:44,220 --> 01:10:48,990 time being online, you know, that kind of thing. But, um, to 1139 01:10:48,990 --> 01:10:53,130 me, I saw as I make Sonic ritual, because part of the 1140 01:10:53,130 --> 01:10:56,850 Masonic ritual is to leave a noose around your neck. And that 1141 01:10:56,850 --> 01:11:04,380 was my answer to him on the esoteric um Boulais kind of 1142 01:11:04,410 --> 01:11:08,310 topic now you brought up the anti lynching bill which that 1143 01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:12,900 was explaining it in the in the just know the political round, 1144 01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:18,270 but this was some kind of humiliation ritual. I see. And 1145 01:11:18,270 --> 01:11:22,050 that was my that was my original take on this case. And then two 1146 01:11:22,050 --> 01:11:25,620 he asked why why would he do this and hopefully, and he's 1147 01:11:25,620 --> 01:11:28,650 next few sets of clips are accident. So before we get into 1148 01:11:28,650 --> 01:11:30,330 you anything you actually want to say no, 1149 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,760 I'm good. Let's move forward. Alright, so 1150 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,590 now we have to get into Miss Kim Fox and her celebrity ties. 1151 01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:43,080 Yeah, Kim Fox is the district attorney. Yes, for for correct, 1152 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,520 sir. Oh, sister. Number one. 1153 01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:45,810 Yes. No, no, 1154 01:11:45,930 --> 01:11:49,080 we're not number one, but she's wanting to win the LG Sora 1155 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:49,620 sisters. 1156 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,990 Today we're piecing together Cook County 1157 01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:54,870 State's Attorney Kim Fox his connections to certain 1158 01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:55,650 celebrities and 1159 01:11:55,650 --> 01:11:59,250 CBS to Suzanne lemon yo learned it includes a presidential 1160 01:11:59,250 --> 01:11:59,850 candidate 1161 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,590 as directly if she is friends with actor Jussie Smollett, 1162 01:12:04,590 --> 01:12:07,920 sisters or anyone in the actress family. Cook County State's 1163 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:12,270 Attorney Kim fox said I am not but a fox mentor does have a 1164 01:12:12,270 --> 01:12:15,690 connection to the Empire star and his family that Senator and 1165 01:12:15,690 --> 01:12:20,790 Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris. In this 1166 01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:24,330 January Instagram video, Harris is seen with Smollett and his 1167 01:12:24,330 --> 01:12:28,170 sister journey in a time's up rally in Los Angeles. After 1168 01:12:28,170 --> 01:12:31,170 small less alleged attack in Chicago Harris tweeted her 1169 01:12:31,170 --> 01:12:34,650 support for the Empire star saying small lead is one of the 1170 01:12:34,650 --> 01:12:38,400 kindest, most gentle human beings I know. I'm praying for 1171 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:43,680 his quick recovery. After he was charged, she backpedaled on her 1172 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,680 support and what she had called and attempted modern day 1173 01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,510 lynching. Yeah, 1174 01:12:48,750 --> 01:12:49,590 there it is. 1175 01:12:52,650 --> 01:12:57,930 So camp Kim Fox, is has close ties to Kamala Harris. I think 1176 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,490 Kamala Harris ran Kim Fox transition team when she won her 1177 01:13:02,730 --> 01:13:07,740 her spot in Chicago politics at the DA Oh, yeah. So they're, 1178 01:13:07,890 --> 01:13:12,180 they're close. They're, they're close. Close, which now we 1179 01:13:12,180 --> 01:13:16,170 understand who Kim Fox really is the power to da and this is one 1180 01:13:16,170 --> 01:13:21,750 of our original conversations. When I when I told you about the 1181 01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:26,460 Soros sisters, Mm hmm. And and what they were trying to do 1182 01:13:26,460 --> 01:13:30,360 politically. And now we're seeing all mayhem is breaking 1183 01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,820 loose Three years later, in Nice. 1184 01:13:33,690 --> 01:13:36,330 In every single city where there's a Soros sister where the 1185 01:13:36,330 --> 01:13:39,240 thrown people back out on the street who belong in jail. 1186 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,020 Correct, which, if you want to use that logic, then Jesse 1187 01:13:43,020 --> 01:13:45,750 Smollett shouldn't go to jail. You saw? 1188 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,930 Totally, of course, have you seen New York by the way, the 1189 01:13:48,930 --> 01:13:54,720 new thing state's attorney there or district attorney? Yeah, it's 1190 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:59,520 a dude. Same thing. Like, oh, if it was a weapon, it wasn't a 1191 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,240 gun, then it'll just be downgraded. Okay, 1192 01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,600 I think I'm wrong. Mary was on his way out, Lori Lightfoot was 1193 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:11,220 on her way. And yeah, all of this has, you know, political 1194 01:14:11,670 --> 01:14:14,820 implications bigger than Chicago. We're talking about a 1195 01:14:14,820 --> 01:14:20,040 mass rollout across the country. revisioning the justice system, 1196 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,850 which we talked about justice, is saying at plenty of times on 1197 01:14:23,850 --> 01:14:27,240 this show that we're not talking about fairness, or the rule of 1198 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:31,260 law. We're talking about the spirit of justice they'd like to 1199 01:14:31,260 --> 01:14:34,470 talk about Yeah, um, so with that said, let's go ahead and 1200 01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:37,830 get into the second part of this Kim FOSS celebrity ties. 1201 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,910 Fox has long shown her appreciation for Harris on Fox 1202 01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:44,760 his Twitter page, she writes of Harris, I would not be where I 1203 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,670 am today without her guidance during my first run for 1204 01:14:47,670 --> 01:14:51,240 political office, and she has continued to mentor me as I work 1205 01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:55,020 to reform the criminal justice system in Cook County. Fox is 1206 01:14:55,020 --> 01:14:57,540 often photographed with celebrities. Here on her 1207 01:14:57,540 --> 01:15:00,780 Facebook page. She's with Grammy winner John Legend. At an event 1208 01:15:00,780 --> 01:15:04,320 about the impact of violence on young people. In this February 1209 01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:08,310 28 post, she's with the Reverend Jesse Jackson. Small lead did 1210 01:15:08,310 --> 01:15:10,710 his community service at Jackson's Rainbow PUSH 1211 01:15:10,710 --> 01:15:14,880 organization. Fox also attended the pre Oscar event for Emily's 1212 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:19,020 list 2019 and was part of the red carpet arrivals here she 1213 01:15:19,020 --> 01:15:22,590 seen on Lisa Lynx Instagram. She was also given the 2018 1214 01:15:22,590 --> 01:15:27,060 Gabrielle Giffords Rising Star Award by Emily's list of the 1215 01:15:27,060 --> 01:15:29,820 organization which supports female candidates for office gay 1216 01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:33,450 Fox the award for her commitment to making positive change in her 1217 01:15:33,450 --> 01:15:36,720 community. Emily's list also endorsed Kamala Harris for the 1218 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,840 Senate. We reached out to Harris for comment. We haven't heard 1219 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,290 back live in the newsroom, Suzanne lemon, yo, CBS two news 1220 01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:44,970 on the gang is all together. 1221 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:49,500 Yes, the gang is all together. And you heard Kim Fox say her 1222 01:15:49,500 --> 01:15:54,150 swell her quote saying Kemal is working with her to reimagine 1223 01:15:54,540 --> 01:15:56,310 the justice system. Yes. 1224 01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:00,390 It's like, like Disney. we reimagine your reimagine at all. 1225 01:16:00,420 --> 01:16:01,230 Yeah, yeah. 1226 01:16:01,470 --> 01:16:06,750 And to go to the you know, just the political explanation why he 1227 01:16:06,750 --> 01:16:10,230 left a new song. It was the lynching Bill Yeah, well this 1228 01:16:10,230 --> 01:16:13,200 lynching thing was laid out let me back up a little bit cuz they 1229 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,980 brought up tom toms up as well. Yeah, which Tom's up is 1230 01:16:16,980 --> 01:16:20,760 synonymous with who? Oprah Winfrey. 1231 01:16:23,670 --> 01:16:24,840 I'm not making the connection. 1232 01:16:25,290 --> 01:16:28,200 Okay, Tom's up was Oprah Winfrey. When she came to the 1233 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:33,870 golden Golden Globes. I think it was in 2018 Oh, no, it was maybe 1234 01:16:33,870 --> 01:16:40,320 2019 I thought it was the dates not important was that 1235 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,920 one is that when they launched time's up and Mulana was out 1236 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,710 there and they were all they all had special dress on or 1237 01:16:46,710 --> 01:16:47,460 something or 1238 01:16:47,519 --> 01:16:51,359 they were all were black guy and okay, yes. All we're activist, 1239 01:16:51,359 --> 01:16:55,529 which was the this was a COVID meetup is what it was. Yeah. 1240 01:16:55,559 --> 01:17:01,889 Okay. Basically, what they did was hijack me too, and rebrand 1241 01:17:01,889 --> 01:17:05,879 it to time. Yes. With with Hollywood people. Yes, that was 1242 01:17:05,879 --> 01:17:10,379 the whole point was but with that they she had Tom's up 1243 01:17:10,379 --> 01:17:14,999 going, which you heard Jesse Smollett, his sister was part of 1244 01:17:14,999 --> 01:17:18,899 that whole push. Yep. So he's active. He's a real activist, 1245 01:17:19,109 --> 01:17:22,919 and his sister is to journey which we're going to get into a 1246 01:17:22,919 --> 01:17:26,279 little later but and that was the sister communicating with 1247 01:17:26,669 --> 01:17:32,189 Kim Fox. Got it, which I see is maybe being one of his one of 1248 01:17:32,189 --> 01:17:38,699 his handlers, um, in this whole thing. So we got Tom's up going, 1249 01:17:38,969 --> 01:17:42,059 we have the anti lynching bill. But what we have to go back is 1250 01:17:42,059 --> 01:17:46,619 one year prior to the rollout of the anti lynching bill, back in 1251 01:17:46,649 --> 01:17:52,229 early 2018, we have Oprah Winfrey on 60 minutes. And she 1252 01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:55,169 does this. And really, you're going to have to watch the last 1253 01:17:55,169 --> 01:17:58,469 tape to get this visual. But let me lay out the visual, they go 1254 01:17:58,469 --> 01:18:03,719 inside this memorial to the victims of lynching. And what 1255 01:18:03,719 --> 01:18:07,499 they have is these panels hanging from the roof, this kind 1256 01:18:07,499 --> 01:18:12,599 of like massage of bodies. And as you walk into it, the room 1257 01:18:12,629 --> 01:18:16,469 elevates. So like, it's like the panels are hanging higher and 1258 01:18:16,469 --> 01:18:19,739 higher, that pose to be representative of the hanging 1259 01:18:19,739 --> 01:18:23,369 people. So it's a very traumatic experience to go into this 1260 01:18:23,579 --> 01:18:27,719 memorial. Don't take my word for it. This is Oprah Winfrey, 60 1261 01:18:27,719 --> 01:18:31,289 minutes inside a memorial to the victims of lynching. 1262 01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:35,040 So you start with them at eye level, and then on this quarter, 1263 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,600 they begin to rise. And then you get to this corridor, and this 1264 01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:44,550 is when you begin to confront the scale of all of these 1265 01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:50,400 lynchings Whoa, this is something Yes, yes, we wanted 1266 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,690 people to have a sense of just the scale with this violence 1267 01:18:54,690 --> 01:18:55,830 with this terrorism 1268 01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,750 was so this is over 4000. Yeah, that had been documented. But of 1269 01:19:00,750 --> 01:19:05,010 course, there are more 1000s More 1000s More 1000s More, and 1270 01:19:05,010 --> 01:19:08,760 we ever even know how many we will never know. Every name has 1271 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,020 its own story. Yes, 1272 01:19:10,020 --> 01:19:14,220 that's right. This was a minister, Reverend ta Allen, who 1273 01:19:14,220 --> 01:19:17,970 began talking to sharecroppers about their rights. And because 1274 01:19:17,970 --> 01:19:20,760 he was doing that the plantation owners, the landowners got 1275 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:25,620 together and they, they lynched him. And the proof they use that 1276 01:19:25,620 --> 01:19:28,410 he was somebody worthy of lynching is that when they found 1277 01:19:28,410 --> 01:19:32,160 his body, he had a piece of paper that talked about 1278 01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,520 sharecropper rights. And the other piece of paper he had in a 1279 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,690 suit jacket was a note that said, every man a king, lot of 1280 01:19:39,690 --> 01:19:43,890 these folks were lynched because they showed too much dignity. 1281 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,490 They showed too much humanity. He just wanted to be respected 1282 01:19:47,850 --> 01:19:50,250 as a human being. And he got him hey, 1283 01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:59,400 oh, I have some questions. I'm realizing that I'm just thinking 1284 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,580 Okay, I want to understand the triggering of the lynchings for 1285 01:20:05,580 --> 01:20:11,610 a Das. Because of course, I grew up and I was educated about the 1286 01:20:11,610 --> 01:20:15,000 lynchings and just sitting here listening to what she's saying. 1287 01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:20,940 I really have no idea. From a historical perspective, I don't 1288 01:20:20,940 --> 01:20:25,170 know exactly when this took place. I don't know. Was it a 1289 01:20:25,170 --> 01:20:27,780 certain period? Was there certain reason was it only 1290 01:20:27,780 --> 01:20:34,440 sharecroppers was it? You know, I would say that probably. I've 1291 01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:37,560 been educated, like, oh, a runaway slaves get lynched. I 1292 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:42,180 really don't know, jack shit about the lynching. And I think 1293 01:20:42,180 --> 01:20:47,010 that as a child, when I was taught this, I disassociated 1294 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:51,930 what I saw in the pictures from America from anything that was 1295 01:20:51,930 --> 01:20:55,800 even even possible. I'm like, Okay, well, I'm glad that shits 1296 01:20:55,800 --> 01:21:01,230 over you, I need a little bit more background on how that is 1297 01:21:01,230 --> 01:21:01,740 for you. 1298 01:21:02,430 --> 01:21:08,100 Okay, so this is word. Okay. Let me start with the Jussie 1299 01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:11,760 Smollett, using the lynching and Oprah and commodity using 1300 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:17,280 lynching. lynching has a very specific traumatic trigger for 1301 01:21:17,460 --> 01:21:21,390 black people in America a Das, however you want to label it, 1302 01:21:21,660 --> 01:21:25,410 because that was the control mechanism on the plantation or 1303 01:21:25,410 --> 01:21:29,850 at least that's the how the narrative goes that you take a 1304 01:21:29,850 --> 01:21:35,190 very defiant or disobedient slave, you rope them up and this 1305 01:21:35,190 --> 01:21:38,880 is this is plantation so we got to talk about slave doors 1306 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,550 slavery, post slavery during slavery, it was used as a 1307 01:21:41,550 --> 01:21:45,090 control mechanism on the plantation to say, you take a 1308 01:21:45,090 --> 01:21:49,290 defiant slave you rope him up and you hang him. Sometimes you 1309 01:21:49,290 --> 01:21:55,020 they will burn dismembered all all the above. They will even 1310 01:21:55,020 --> 01:22:01,050 take souvenirs. So that was on the plantation post slavery, it 1311 01:22:01,050 --> 01:22:05,820 was still a used as a control mechanism. But it also became a 1312 01:22:06,180 --> 01:22:13,020 kind of like a public celebration, which is not I want 1313 01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:15,390 to I got a whole nother show. I'm going to talk about lynching 1314 01:22:15,390 --> 01:22:18,090 on but I just want to make Oh, okay, good, quick, good. Yeah. 1315 01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,590 Yeah, cuz it was because it warrants that. They know what 1316 01:22:22,590 --> 01:22:25,200 they're doing when they use the term lynching when they put that 1317 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,440 rope around his neck, whoever did it when she rose out this 1318 01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:28,860 thing, 1319 01:22:28,860 --> 01:22:36,150 but if this was to trigger white people, uh huh. I don't think it 1320 01:22:36,150 --> 01:22:40,680 works that well. Well, you have to be educated. See, this is the 1321 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:44,280 whole point of the memorial. This is the whole point of 1322 01:22:46,710 --> 01:22:51,780 rolling, educate you how bad lynching was. Now, let me make 1323 01:22:51,780 --> 01:22:54,990 it clear. lynching was terrible. And they like I said, they will 1324 01:22:54,990 --> 01:22:59,400 burn you dismember you. But it was not exclusive to black 1325 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:03,690 people because the law, the rope, the law, the rope, it's 1326 01:23:03,690 --> 01:23:07,890 just it's American and predates America going back to English as 1327 01:23:07,890 --> 01:23:12,420 one, you know, they hang out to hang people publicly. Okay. That 1328 01:23:12,420 --> 01:23:14,310 was the whole point of it was just as 1329 01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:19,740 a as an informational data point. As white American in you 1330 01:23:19,740 --> 01:23:24,450 know, the East Coast. And of course, i i bopped around, I did 1331 01:23:24,450 --> 01:23:27,840 go international school, but the topic was covered. But it really 1332 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,680 was never covered in that, to that degree. It was something 1333 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,310 that was really messed up. And it happened and we dealt with 1334 01:23:35,340 --> 01:23:37,440 and you know, just you can forget about it, because it's 1335 01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:40,680 never going to happen again. Does that make any sense? That 1336 01:23:40,710 --> 01:23:44,880 if that's the severity of it was never, you know, I never knew 1337 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:49,800 how many this museum museum sounds super interesting. But I 1338 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,310 think that you're right. The knowledge is, if we're going to 1339 01:23:53,310 --> 01:23:55,680 trigger white people, we got to educate them because they don't 1340 01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,140 know they don't know shit. Because we don't and they go, 1341 01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:01,680 that's the whole point of it. That whole push from Oprah a 1342 01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:05,220 year ahead of time a year ahead, right? Yeah, we have to educate 1343 01:24:05,250 --> 01:24:10,260 them on this so they can feel the obligation to vote with the 1344 01:24:10,260 --> 01:24:13,530 way we want them to vote. And the reason why Jussie Smollett 1345 01:24:13,530 --> 01:24:16,530 got such a hard push back, you don't play with lynching for 1346 01:24:16,530 --> 01:24:20,100 black people. Even somebody getting a you have to kill me to 1347 01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:22,620 get a rope around my neck. Right? That I mean, that's 1348 01:24:22,620 --> 01:24:24,570 that's what that another was playing with the story, like the 1349 01:24:24,570 --> 01:24:28,200 guy was saying, how do you let them get their rope around his 1350 01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,920 neck and then to leave his own? And then a further story is he 1351 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:38,100 took it off, and then put it on again? Oh, no, no. I'm triggered 1352 01:24:38,100 --> 01:24:40,770 right now to think about the fact that somebody's putting a 1353 01:24:40,770 --> 01:24:44,250 rope around my neck, you know, we don't play because what that 1354 01:24:44,250 --> 01:24:47,670 is on a human, let's just take it back one step back. When 1355 01:24:47,670 --> 01:24:50,670 somebody puts something around your neck that could be a leash, 1356 01:24:51,180 --> 01:24:55,290 or to kill you. It's not the human nature. It's that kind of 1357 01:24:55,290 --> 01:25:00,150 control over me, just on a human level, but then when you You 1358 01:25:00,150 --> 01:25:04,500 been indoctrinated with trauma based entertainment of the 1359 01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:09,090 strange fruit from Billie Holiday. With the like, say 1360 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:13,410 every movie has a loose and modern day era of illusions of 1361 01:25:13,410 --> 01:25:16,560 hanging, which, like I said, lynching happening and the real 1362 01:25:17,010 --> 01:25:20,910 problem with lynching in modern day times was the mob justice 1363 01:25:20,910 --> 01:25:24,690 that came along with it. Were that just say, for instance, Oh, 1364 01:25:24,690 --> 01:25:29,970 this guy did it. Let's go in, let's do guards, or the sheriff 1365 01:25:29,970 --> 01:25:33,090 would pretty much turn the guy over to the mob, they will 1366 01:25:33,090 --> 01:25:36,480 string him up right there Judge Jury Executioner, or they will 1367 01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:40,200 put pressure on the judge to have a mock trial, basically. 1368 01:25:40,470 --> 01:25:44,040 And then let's just go hand in hand him. So that was the real 1369 01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:48,720 man, it was more of the like I said, the modern day hanging. 1370 01:25:50,490 --> 01:25:53,730 That was the issue because that was new, there is no justice. 1371 01:25:54,150 --> 01:25:58,740 There is Ma is mob rule, right. So and, and reason why was 1372 01:25:58,740 --> 01:26:03,810 triggered for me is, I'm old enough to know, grandparents on 1373 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,020 everything else, and don't go down certain roads, because 1374 01:26:07,020 --> 01:26:10,980 black men disappeared on that road. When you go out at night, 1375 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,390 um, you travel with somebody else, or you don't even go out 1376 01:26:15,390 --> 01:26:20,190 at night. I mean, this, this is your life in your lifetime. In 1377 01:26:20,190 --> 01:26:23,550 my lifetime, we had like this going to this corner store, 1378 01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:28,950 there was a road that were cut between our house and the corner 1379 01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:32,940 store. But you didn't take that dirt road, you better not get 1380 01:26:32,940 --> 01:26:35,850 caught on that dirt road, you had to take the long way to the 1381 01:26:35,850 --> 01:26:41,790 corner store. And this is like I say I'm born in 1980. So it I 1382 01:26:41,790 --> 01:26:45,840 find it very disgusting, that they will use this as a 1383 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:50,130 political tool, or a triggering thing. So that's why it's 1384 01:26:50,130 --> 01:26:54,570 also highly risky. I think it's it was a risky strategy to start 1385 01:26:54,570 --> 01:26:57,660 with. They overestimated what they could do with this. For all 1386 01:26:57,660 --> 01:27:00,870 the reasons we're talking about. You get there's a lot of moving 1387 01:27:00,870 --> 01:27:05,310 parts to that to just try and reconfigure the American mind in 1388 01:27:05,310 --> 01:27:07,530 a year's time. I think it was week, one 1389 01:27:07,530 --> 01:27:12,990 two years, because you I think this was 2018 that Oprah had 1390 01:27:12,990 --> 01:27:16,620 this whole Memorial rolling out. But the beauty of the taking the 1391 01:27:16,620 --> 01:27:19,350 lint, and I hate to use the word beauty of but politically from 1392 01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:23,940 their perspective, the beauty of it was we don't know how many 1393 01:27:23,940 --> 01:27:26,760 lynchings happening so we can keep finding more and more cases 1394 01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:30,240 in the past. Right? wrong word. Now, if you want something in 1395 01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,180 the future, as with Jesse, we got to manufacture it's 1396 01:27:33,809 --> 01:27:37,019 there. We're really taking a page out of the Holocaust Museum 1397 01:27:37,019 --> 01:27:37,769 playbook. 1398 01:27:38,370 --> 01:27:43,740 Yes. Got it. It's perpetual victims, where it's now like 1399 01:27:43,740 --> 01:27:46,500 with justice or risk. We can't do these hoaxes anymore as 1400 01:27:46,500 --> 01:27:48,810 cameras on every corner. Yeah, they're just and there's 1401 01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:52,080 tracking of error. So we need something that can be, you know, 1402 01:27:53,730 --> 01:27:57,090 repeatable, and that's why I think they took the lynching 1403 01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,530 Bill aspect of it. And either way you want to look at it, 1404 01:28:01,530 --> 01:28:05,370 maybe just Jesse and his sister or his handlers, were like, Hey, 1405 01:28:05,370 --> 01:28:10,290 we can throw Comala alley with this whole lynching pokes and it 1406 01:28:10,290 --> 01:28:14,370 runs great with her with her initiative just coming down the 1407 01:28:14,370 --> 01:28:18,780 line with the engine the anti lynching bill, or somebody put 1408 01:28:18,780 --> 01:28:23,340 in a call to say Jesse activate. I don't know I can't speculate 1409 01:28:23,370 --> 01:28:28,350 to how that happened. Hey, Jesse 1410 01:28:28,380 --> 01:28:29,970 activation time. 1411 01:28:32,820 --> 01:28:37,140 Um, so with that said, you heard her jump on the lynchings total 1412 01:28:37,140 --> 01:28:41,400 lynching terms in there. We stopped 17 is no bro. Yes. So 1413 01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:46,470 let's go ahead and listen to Kamala and her own the faintly 1414 01:28:46,500 --> 01:28:52,020 House Floor, discussing the same floors give me the Senate floor 1415 01:28:52,050 --> 01:28:53,580 discussing the anti lynching bill. 1416 01:28:53,790 --> 01:28:57,840 James Baldwin once said that, quote, not everything that is 1417 01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:03,870 faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it 1418 01:29:03,870 --> 01:29:09,180 is faced. And that is why we are here again today to face the 1419 01:29:09,180 --> 01:29:16,440 history of lynching in this country. From 1882 to 1986, the 1420 01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:20,490 United States Congress failed to pass anti lynching legislation 1421 01:29:20,820 --> 01:29:25,950 when it had the opportunity more than 200 times. We have an 1422 01:29:25,950 --> 01:29:30,540 opportunity once again, to right this wrong and face the ugly 1423 01:29:30,540 --> 01:29:36,390 history of lynching in America. And let's recall this stain on 1424 01:29:36,390 --> 01:29:42,510 America's history. lynching. It was an act of terror. It was 1425 01:29:42,510 --> 01:29:48,630 murder. These were summary executions. Victims of lynching 1426 01:29:48,660 --> 01:29:53,190 were dragged out of their homes. They had ropes wrapped around 1427 01:29:53,190 --> 01:29:58,860 their necks. They were hanged on trees. In many cases, they were 1428 01:29:58,860 --> 01:30:04,080 castrated burned as crowds of people watched and applauded. 1429 01:30:05,370 --> 01:30:09,870 And the premise underlying all of these acts was that black 1430 01:30:09,870 --> 01:30:13,980 people were not full human beings. According to the Equal 1431 01:30:13,980 --> 01:30:18,090 Justice Initiative, lynching was used as an instrument of terror 1432 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:25,530 and intimidation 4084 times during the late 19th and 20th 1433 01:30:25,530 --> 01:30:26,310 centuries, 1434 01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:33,450 you know, Oprah's number listened to this. This was about 1435 01:30:33,450 --> 01:30:39,060 the presidency of the United States of America. Hmm. And 1436 01:30:39,060 --> 01:30:45,150 there's this group of people, including Soros. All in on this 1437 01:30:45,390 --> 01:30:48,630 all in on Kamala, and we're going to make her and the 1438 01:30:48,630 --> 01:30:53,580 Democratic Party and I don't know if till Hills was in on it 1439 01:30:53,580 --> 01:30:57,120 the Clintons I don't know if this is just a fraction. But if 1440 01:30:57,150 --> 01:31:01,170 if I mean to become president, the power that you have what you 1441 01:31:01,170 --> 01:31:05,550 can do, I mean, you could you can address printing trillions 1442 01:31:05,550 --> 01:31:09,330 of dollars, you can go to war, all these things. If these 1443 01:31:09,330 --> 01:31:13,290 people truly were genuine, and they really wanted to make her 1444 01:31:13,290 --> 01:31:16,980 president, they should have hung Jussie Smollett up for real. 1445 01:31:18,150 --> 01:31:21,450 That would have worked like real hanging whoops. 1446 01:31:22,500 --> 01:31:26,580 But like I said, and with this site with the surveillance state 1447 01:31:26,580 --> 01:31:29,940 we live in that's that's the problem. They're trying to 1448 01:31:29,940 --> 01:31:34,200 balance two things is one we're living in a surveillance state 1449 01:31:34,620 --> 01:31:38,310 which I'm gonna make it clear right now that we're heading 1450 01:31:38,310 --> 01:31:42,540 towards another crime bill. Right now. Yeah, this whole 1451 01:31:42,540 --> 01:31:43,740 thing the whole 1452 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:49,020 what will what will the yummy what will little yummy who will 1453 01:31:49,020 --> 01:31:51,480 be the poster child of the new crime bill? 1454 01:31:51,870 --> 01:31:53,850 Well, this the smashing grab? Yes, I 1455 01:31:53,850 --> 01:31:55,740 know. I know. Yeah, exactly. It's 1456 01:31:55,740 --> 01:32:00,270 completely law. I'm lawlessness, which is being done by people 1457 01:32:00,270 --> 01:32:05,040 like Kim Fox. So and it's gonna ratchet up the very thing that 1458 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,310 caught Jesse Smollett and his cohorts is increased 1459 01:32:08,460 --> 01:32:11,790 surveillance to the point where there'll be robots doing their 1460 01:32:11,790 --> 01:32:15,840 surveillance there will be no things riding up and down the 1461 01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:16,620 side while we're all 1462 01:32:16,650 --> 01:32:21,060 we already have the yeah that'll be for the poor people and as 1463 01:32:21,060 --> 01:32:26,250 you stated a long time ago private police is popping up 1464 01:32:26,250 --> 01:32:30,270 everywhere private police force and and I know cops here in hill 1465 01:32:30,270 --> 01:32:35,040 country who are saying you know, one of my my buddies he wanted 1466 01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:41,610 to go back on the force and after the What's your name the 1467 01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:48,240 potter trial he said oh, I'm not going back he says good bad or 1468 01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:52,920 indifferent if if the city council is the if the mayor if 1469 01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:56,070 the if the police chief if no one has your back? Why take the 1470 01:32:56,070 --> 01:33:00,450 risk? He says and I can go work for private police force being 1471 01:33:00,450 --> 01:33:02,610 pizza all night and make twice as much money 1472 01:33:03,660 --> 01:33:06,120 so then you get worse cops Yeah, of 1473 01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,180 course. More crime devolved. They'll 1474 01:33:09,180 --> 01:33:13,500 make they'll make the poor black people in those communities back 1475 01:33:13,500 --> 01:33:16,350 for something to happen. And what they're going to give you 1476 01:33:16,350 --> 01:33:20,010 is robotic policing. Which is another level to surveillance to 1477 01:33:20,010 --> 01:33:25,830 your ring doorbell your ring doorbell will have wheels that's 1478 01:33:25,980 --> 01:33:28,860 that's where we're headed but they're gonna make us beg for it 1479 01:33:28,860 --> 01:33:32,640 the same way they introduced drugs and 94 more drugs 1480 01:33:32,820 --> 01:33:37,110 handcuffed to police now you had the Rodney King thing that 1481 01:33:37,110 --> 01:33:41,520 happened that put police on watch or say well I don't really 1482 01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:45,450 want to do anything more crime more drugs the next day okay 1483 01:33:45,480 --> 01:33:49,050 back from mass incarceration you got it? Yeah mass incarceration 1484 01:33:49,050 --> 01:33:53,550 less father's more crime so this whole thing race repeat. Yeah, 1485 01:33:53,580 --> 01:33:57,180 there's no nobody's on our side and this whole thing. Do you 1486 01:33:57,180 --> 01:34:01,560 think sources on your side? I don't think so. And and as you 1487 01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:05,130 said, they don't have the string. Jessie smell it up. They 1488 01:34:05,130 --> 01:34:08,790 don't have to mean people or information. Yeah, pat that 1489 01:34:08,790 --> 01:34:13,590 people are thinking that he was almost stronger. Which is a it's 1490 01:34:13,590 --> 01:34:17,070 even better because he's not a martyr. You see, I'm saying he's 1491 01:34:17,070 --> 01:34:22,050 a icon. He's a he's a fighter. He's a rotter. Um, like I said 1492 01:34:22,050 --> 01:34:25,620 that that's even better in their eyes. So I guess we can go ahead 1493 01:34:25,620 --> 01:34:30,510 and move on to now this is Kim Fox facing calls to resign. 1494 01:34:30,719 --> 01:34:33,899 I walked down Chicago let's stay in Chicago to get this story. 1495 01:34:34,049 --> 01:34:37,139 Cook County, Illinois District Attorney Kim Fox facing calls 1496 01:34:37,139 --> 01:34:39,929 for her resignation after allegedly lying about her 1497 01:34:39,929 --> 01:34:43,199 contacts with Jussie Smollett family before she ultimately 1498 01:34:43,199 --> 01:34:46,319 dropped the original charges against the actor, Fox said 1499 01:34:46,319 --> 01:34:49,649 publicly she stopped talking to small at sister after he became 1500 01:34:49,649 --> 01:34:53,279 a suspect but a special prosecutors report finds Fox 1501 01:34:53,279 --> 01:34:56,909 continued communicating with her days after let's bring in former 1502 01:34:56,909 --> 01:35:00,569 DOJ prosecutor Jim truste. I think this is cool. amazed I 1503 01:35:00,569 --> 01:35:03,359 want to read from the retired judge Sheila O'Brien, who said 1504 01:35:03,359 --> 01:35:06,989 Kim Fox should resign. This report shows she is a liar that 1505 01:35:06,989 --> 01:35:10,109 her administration is in chaos, and that she's blaming everyone 1506 01:35:10,109 --> 01:35:13,259 else. She should resign taxpayers are better. And Mrs. 1507 01:35:13,259 --> 01:35:16,319 Preckwinkle her mentor should take no part in replacing Fox 1508 01:35:16,319 --> 01:35:19,709 Cook County government needs to clean house and basically this 1509 01:35:20,309 --> 01:35:24,089 text show that small lead sister and boxer and communication and 1510 01:35:24,149 --> 01:35:27,839 Fox says your brother should be fine. As long as he stays 1511 01:35:27,839 --> 01:35:31,049 consistent. How does she say in the job after this? 1512 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,700 Yeah, maybe only in Cook County? I don't know. I mean, what Kim 1513 01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:39,240 Kim Fox is a progressive prosecutor who grew from the 1514 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:43,410 strength of the case to her contact with Jesse sister to 1515 01:35:43,410 --> 01:35:45,660 even just the smallest criminal record, they kept saying 1516 01:35:45,660 --> 01:35:49,170 publicly, he has no criminal record. He had a DUI with of all 1517 01:35:49,170 --> 01:35:52,680 things a false statement to police conviction. That's a 1518 01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,170 pretty material piece of information that they lied about 1519 01:35:55,170 --> 01:35:55,470 it. 1520 01:35:57,540 --> 01:35:58,530 Oh, man, 1521 01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:03,120 so this is where equity plays into even if he did it and it's 1522 01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:07,170 a hoax. Stick to your story. Jesse are juicy. We got you. 1523 01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:11,880 You're saying just now when people wonder why juicy is 1524 01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:15,840 sticking to story. And seems like he's crazy. Because like we 1525 01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,210 know, we know what happened. But he's like, No, it didn't happen. 1526 01:36:18,210 --> 01:36:21,810 And it's gaslighting. Yeah, is gaslighting to people that know 1527 01:36:21,810 --> 01:36:25,110 what happened, or we have surveillance information that 1528 01:36:25,110 --> 01:36:28,170 proves what happened. But he's still saying no, I was attacked, 1529 01:36:28,530 --> 01:36:33,660 and people information, believe him and just keeps gaslighting. 1530 01:36:33,690 --> 01:36:37,560 And they have their hand on the Justice mechanism. So it's like 1531 01:36:37,590 --> 01:36:40,890 a witness, you're good. You're just you just keep to your 1532 01:36:40,890 --> 01:36:44,160 story. And he's going to come out gold on the other side of 1533 01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:48,420 this because to a certain segment of society. He did what 1534 01:36:48,420 --> 01:36:53,370 he had to do. He's a hero. He's now what that is, what he did is 1535 01:36:53,370 --> 01:36:57,330 a whole nother story or what was done to him. I will leave that 1536 01:36:57,330 --> 01:37:01,530 as a cliffhanger. But um, let's go ahead and get into the second 1537 01:37:01,530 --> 01:37:02,850 part of this clip. 1538 01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,060 But the conversation with the sister is astounding to me 1539 01:37:06,060 --> 01:37:08,940 because it really walks right up to the line of obstruction of 1540 01:37:08,940 --> 01:37:11,550 justice. She's sitting here telling him telling the sister 1541 01:37:11,550 --> 01:37:15,000 now that I know he's a suspect as long as he's consistent, as 1542 01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,970 in keeping with that false story he should be okay. That's an 1543 01:37:17,970 --> 01:37:21,210 amazing moment for a public official, a prosecutor to be 1544 01:37:21,210 --> 01:37:21,720 coaching, 1545 01:37:21,750 --> 01:37:25,440 if you see it that way, and many others see it that way. Why does 1546 01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:28,350 the state and the county disagree? I mean, last night 1547 01:37:28,350 --> 01:37:31,650 Cook County in Illinois came out with a statement saying we 1548 01:37:31,650 --> 01:37:35,370 disagree with the status found against Kim Fox. Why? 1549 01:37:37,050 --> 01:37:39,600 Yeah, I don't know what the political loyalties are there. I 1550 01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,820 mean, Cook County certainly has a I think a well earned 1551 01:37:41,820 --> 01:37:45,090 reputation for political mischief. But this is just 1552 01:37:45,090 --> 01:37:48,810 outrageous to the citizens of Chicago, you've got a chief law 1553 01:37:48,810 --> 01:37:53,490 enforcement officer who is lying over and over again, to cut a 1554 01:37:53,490 --> 01:37:57,480 sweetheart deal for a two bit actor just because that's what 1555 01:37:57,480 --> 01:38:00,270 she wants to do. It has nothing to do with justice, everything 1556 01:38:00,270 --> 01:38:03,300 to do with personal favoritism. And the lies are something that 1557 01:38:03,300 --> 01:38:05,730 shouldn't be tolerated. No matter which city you're in, no 1558 01:38:05,730 --> 01:38:07,680 matter which State's Attorney's Office, your chief law 1559 01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:10,800 enforcement official should not be out there repeatedly lying 1560 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,930 about demonstrably false things. 1561 01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,270 But and the other thing is, what about the breakdown and trust 1562 01:38:15,270 --> 01:38:18,420 between police officers out there with their lives on the 1563 01:38:18,420 --> 01:38:20,430 line and prosecutors like Kim Fox, 1564 01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:26,550 the celebrities, the actors, and a lot of news folks are on 1565 01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:29,490 camera in the very early days showing their support for Jesse. 1566 01:38:30,210 --> 01:38:34,560 Jesse small lad and maybe Kim Fox was right there with him. We 1567 01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,990 will see. I see Jim trusty Thank 1568 01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:43,200 you No, I listened to that. And I'm I'm so hopeful for America. 1569 01:38:43,830 --> 01:38:47,550 But I think we have to go through another round of massive 1570 01:38:47,550 --> 01:38:52,320 bullcrap. You may be right about a new crime bill, did it this is 1571 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:53,580 so intentional. 1572 01:38:56,130 --> 01:39:01,320 It's textbook it really, their whole was just he was in a great 1573 01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:05,160 spot because no matter what he's gonna, he's gonna land in a good 1574 01:39:05,190 --> 01:39:10,620 spot. Even if he just took one for the team, you know, they got 1575 01:39:10,620 --> 01:39:14,970 the story out there with the distraction. Soros has his 1576 01:39:14,970 --> 01:39:18,510 people in all the spots that he mean, this was his plan, 1577 01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:23,430 strategic, you know, a takeover of the whole judicial system. 1578 01:39:23,610 --> 01:39:26,700 And as they were saying in this clip, they were saying, what 1579 01:39:26,700 --> 01:39:31,050 about the distrust between the cops and the DA and between law 1580 01:39:31,050 --> 01:39:35,100 and order, right? You have a law being you know, the legal system 1581 01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:39,450 and you have order being the law enforcement system. And there's 1582 01:39:39,450 --> 01:39:43,830 a there's a wage driven there, which it can turn out any better 1583 01:39:43,830 --> 01:39:48,360 for Soros. And when I say Soros, I think the old man has set down 1584 01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:52,050 and this is the new this is his son his kid. Yeah, yeah. This is 1585 01:39:52,050 --> 01:39:55,020 this. This is a new playbook. It's being played. What's it 1586 01:39:55,110 --> 01:39:55,380 what's 1587 01:39:55,410 --> 01:39:59,970 it Andy Andrew thing that I think Alex I believe Alex? Yeah. 1588 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,140 like Soros, you right, that's 1589 01:40:01,140 --> 01:40:04,860 the one we need to keep our eye on. I don't think it's a new 1590 01:40:04,860 --> 01:40:05,340 playbook. 1591 01:40:05,340 --> 01:40:07,050 I think you're right. He's probably been running it for a 1592 01:40:07,050 --> 01:40:08,760 while, actually, I think about it. 1593 01:40:09,300 --> 01:40:14,100 Right. And you see that and so before we get into the people 1594 01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:16,560 that support him, Jesse, let's get into the people are 1595 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:17,430 supporting us. 1596 01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:23,070 Yes. And what we're doing here is always explained at the top 1597 01:40:23,070 --> 01:40:25,590 of our, our donation segments, 1598 01:40:25,860 --> 01:40:29,100 the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at 1599 01:40:29,100 --> 01:40:32,160 the same table, the white man has to feel free to speak his 1600 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,980 mind without hurting the feelings about negro. And the so 1601 01:40:34,980 --> 01:40:37,890 called Negro has to feel free to speak in the mind without 1602 01:40:37,890 --> 01:40:40,470 hurting the feeling that the right man, then they can bring 1603 01:40:40,470 --> 01:40:43,110 the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and 1604 01:40:43,110 --> 01:40:45,630 take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. What's 1605 01:40:45,630 --> 01:40:46,260 the only way? 1606 01:40:49,050 --> 01:40:52,440 That's right. 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You're no longer a dead beat. 1655 01:43:57,210 --> 01:44:00,960 We see 105 from David Forrest, who's a listener since an 1656 01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:03,480 episode somewhere in the 30s he writes and learned about you 1657 01:44:03,480 --> 01:44:06,720 from no agenda want to show my support and believe in the V 1658 01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,840 four V model top notch contents are Merry Christmas. Thank you 1659 01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:14,010 very much, David. It's great. Judy SIGs be $100 Do your mon 1660 01:44:14,010 --> 01:44:16,950 Adam in these crazy times. Many of us are lacking some family 1661 01:44:16,950 --> 01:44:19,530 this holiday season. Thank you so much for creating this 1662 01:44:19,530 --> 01:44:22,800 powerful podcast that has spawned the fax family. I 1663 01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,740 appreciate them all Tiger Auntie called a few of us out last week 1664 01:44:25,740 --> 01:44:28,740 and it made me smile for hours at the unexpected KINDNESS So 1665 01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:32,520 back atcha Tiger Auntie, I just say hello to Andrea Ben he who 1666 01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:36,870 was in during Australia's craziness DS now 556 And Sean 1667 01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:39,750 and I'm sure I'm missing someone so there's always a next time 1668 01:44:39,750 --> 01:44:42,810 love and a joyous holiday to all Thank you Judy. Appreciate that. 1669 01:44:42,900 --> 01:44:45,930 These are still all executive producers for episode number 73 1670 01:44:46,230 --> 01:44:50,370 MADELINE Petra naughty $100 mo I'm officially no longer a 1671 01:44:50,370 --> 01:44:53,220 deadbeat that just listens. I want to contribute throw a 1672 01:44:53,220 --> 01:44:56,580 little extra Christmas cheer you and Adams way after all I've 1673 01:44:56,580 --> 01:44:57,960 gained from listening to the show 1674 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,800 Graduation. You're no longer dead D 1675 01:45:04,860 --> 01:45:08,910 and as an open door invitation to come back sometime in 2022 to 1676 01:45:08,970 --> 01:45:14,040 our show, the voluntary vixens did I didn't do that. No, you 1677 01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:15,540 did the voluntary vixens 1678 01:45:15,690 --> 01:45:19,500 Yes, I am. I've been busy. And that's one of the first guest 1679 01:45:19,500 --> 01:45:24,660 appearances I did. That was a while ago, but I will be somehow 1680 01:45:24,690 --> 01:45:31,440 putting all the guest spots up on the platforms so people can 1681 01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:33,420 hear him. I know it's kind of hard to keep track of where I'm 1682 01:45:33,420 --> 01:45:38,010 going. But in 2022 I'll be like the little Wayne where I'm kind 1683 01:45:38,010 --> 01:45:38,370 of get 1684 01:45:39,450 --> 01:45:42,180 away. Y'all be prepared. As long as you don't become Kevin Hart, 1685 01:45:42,180 --> 01:45:43,020 then everything's fine. 1686 01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:44,610 Of course not. We're not sitting. 1687 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,050 Oh, short person joke mean? 1688 01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:52,050 No, no, no. He said that was a thing like that. Instead of 1689 01:45:52,050 --> 01:45:54,150 putting that yeah, you're right. You're right that yes, you went 1690 01:45:54,150 --> 01:45:57,090 one step further where he's happened in lab. We took it a 1691 01:45:57,090 --> 01:45:58,710 bit far. I digress. 1692 01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,860 We had such a great conversation with you. And I know I really 1693 01:46:01,860 --> 01:46:04,080 appreciate having the opportunity to interact with 1694 01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:06,090 you. 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Mo facts is simply the 1754 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:09,450 single best podcast available I love no agenda and Joe riffin 1755 01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:12,390 but it's not even close mo delivers every single time so 1756 01:50:12,390 --> 01:50:15,540 thank you both for the value you bring to my day. Add this to my 1757 01:50:15,540 --> 01:50:20,310 $25 from last week and bless me and Mo blessed me with Moe karma 1758 01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:22,410 Thank you very much. You betcha man. 1759 01:50:23,910 --> 01:50:24,720 You've got 1760 01:50:27,030 --> 01:50:36,510 7373 from Curtis Collins once celebration put that in a long 1761 01:50:36,510 --> 01:50:38,490 time do I still have here somewhere 1762 01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,610 we need we need one for New Year's anyway so it's very 1763 01:50:41,610 --> 01:50:42,930 appropriate that we play that one 1764 01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:46,470 yeah, I'm trying to see well what did we take that off the 1765 01:50:46,470 --> 01:50:47,280 incident Miss 1766 01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:52,620 jet is Jesse Lee Peterson so it might be a no I got a container 1767 01:50:52,620 --> 01:50:54,000 we got to keep these clips yeah 1768 01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:58,710 I got it. It has it has a one minute snap locks on it's a 1769 01:50:58,710 --> 01:51:02,430 little tough to get off but we will be okay a loose as well 1770 01:51:02,430 --> 01:51:04,710 wishing everyone on the facts and no agenda family Merry 1771 01:51:04,710 --> 01:51:09,090 Christmas Happy holiday. Let's speak to reach much love Kurt 1772 01:51:09,090 --> 01:51:24,150 and Jen Okay, so we need the Lusaka break. Camo is break 1773 01:51:31,470 --> 01:51:37,410 loose. Douglas 7321 Keep up the good work. Gentlemen. Please D 1774 01:51:37,410 --> 01:51:40,170 dead beat me do that right away for you. No problem. 1775 01:51:40,440 --> 01:51:45,420 Congratulation. You're no longer dead the 1776 01:51:45,450 --> 01:51:48,360 MO karma for all the facts family together, our work will 1777 01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:51,210 pull us through this craziness. Merry Christmas. Happy, healthy, 1778 01:51:51,210 --> 01:51:54,570 prosperous New Year, says Doug. You betcha man, thank you very 1779 01:51:54,570 --> 01:51:57,810 much. And roll out a little more karma for you here. 1780 01:51:58,980 --> 01:51:59,820 You've got 1781 01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:07,920 then we got Matthew Evans $73 This is all a show. Number 1782 01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,500 donations. Of course happy belated birthday turned 32 On 1783 01:52:10,500 --> 01:52:14,190 the third so our combined ages equals 73. Anyway, I'm devils 1784 01:52:14,190 --> 01:52:17,190 hair cut 29 on Instagram. I live in Hendersonville and I've 1785 01:52:17,190 --> 01:52:20,400 messaged you in the past about how I think the Forest City area 1786 01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:22,800 is really going to take off soon might be something to think 1787 01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,950 about if you become an tethered to a location Good luck, my 1788 01:52:25,950 --> 01:52:29,610 friend. Thank you for all you do. I think you're already good. 1789 01:52:29,610 --> 01:52:31,140 Right? You're solid where you're at now? 1790 01:52:31,650 --> 01:52:37,380 Yeah, yes. But yeah, that area is really taken off due to 1791 01:52:37,380 --> 01:52:41,460 Facebook and everything. So he's correct on that. He is correct 1792 01:52:41,460 --> 01:52:44,010 on that analysis. Chris angler 1793 01:52:44,010 --> 01:52:48,150 73 I was born in 1973. So what better way to join an episode 1794 01:52:48,150 --> 01:52:51,360 club please D debt me. We got a lot of D deadbeats today's is 1795 01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:51,930 good to say 1796 01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:56,940 congratulation. You're no longer a dead baby 1797 01:52:56,940 --> 01:53:00,270 concludes it came from no agenda really like what I hear. Keep it 1798 01:53:00,270 --> 01:53:04,380 up. Jennifer striving. I've listened to every episode says 1799 01:53:04,380 --> 01:53:07,230 Jennifer. It was $73 Thank you first show I caught was on 1800 01:53:07,230 --> 01:53:10,530 school busing and had to go back and start from the beginning. 1801 01:53:10,530 --> 01:53:12,960 Thanks for what you do. That's right. The course starts at the 1802 01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:17,010 beginning. Hmm. Chris Bailey $72 We'll add you to today's 1803 01:53:17,010 --> 01:53:20,100 episode. Credits. Of course, Chris. Love is lit. Thank you, 1804 01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:24,720 gentlemen, for the work you do any as you'd like to know where 1805 01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:27,180 we are with the titles and peerage. 1806 01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:32,730 Okay, so I'm gonna go ahead and roll this out. We do have a 1807 01:53:32,730 --> 01:53:35,820 system that's going to be similar to the pier, which is 1808 01:53:35,820 --> 01:53:40,680 gonna be called the Hall of Fame. Fat family, for those 1809 01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:44,460 people. And because the reason why it took so long is I didn't 1810 01:53:44,460 --> 01:53:47,580 want to do a thing that's disingenuous. I mean, it's, you 1811 01:53:47,580 --> 01:53:51,510 know, disingenuous, more lame, or lame, right, you know, that 1812 01:53:51,510 --> 01:53:55,800 kind of thing. So what better way we are the facts family. So 1813 01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:58,680 the way I envisioned it, and people can give us feedback on 1814 01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:02,040 this, this is just us. This is a meeting between me and Adam 1815 01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:02,610 right now. So 1816 01:54:02,610 --> 01:54:06,000 yes, I'm open. Yes. I'm in agreement with this so far. 1817 01:54:06,420 --> 01:54:10,860 Yes. So when you hit the start the threshold, he said, 1000. I 1818 01:54:10,860 --> 01:54:13,110 don't know if that's gonna be a number yet. But you've exceeded 1819 01:54:13,110 --> 01:54:17,130 if that's not the number already, but it's going to be 1820 01:54:17,130 --> 01:54:21,720 the Hall of Fame. And you're going to be able to acknowledge 1821 01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:24,990 yourself by a family name, whereas brothers sister, aunt, 1822 01:54:25,380 --> 01:54:30,900 uncle, cousin, and then I see as it progressed, we have grand 1823 01:54:30,900 --> 01:54:33,870 cousins, grand brothers, grandfather's grand sisters, 1824 01:54:33,870 --> 01:54:35,880 wherever and then great grand and that kind of thing on the 1825 01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:40,080 family side of it. So like I said, that's the idea. We'd love 1826 01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,870 to hear your feedback, but I didn't want to do anything lame. 1827 01:54:43,110 --> 01:54:47,100 You know, that kind of thing. We had some, some discussions and 1828 01:54:47,100 --> 01:54:52,500 some suggestions, but it just popped in my head when they like 1829 01:54:52,650 --> 01:54:54,390 holla fam. I love it. 1830 01:54:54,570 --> 01:54:57,480 I love the Hall of Fame is great. Hold on a sec, and the 1831 01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:57,930 name 1832 01:54:57,930 --> 01:55:02,610 is gonna come with some perks. We got some work going on. Just 1833 01:55:02,610 --> 01:55:05,970 hang in there with us, like I said, been bombarded. I was 1834 01:55:05,970 --> 01:55:10,440 working 60 hours a week doing my day job and then doing the show 1835 01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:15,600 and doing some other things. So 2022 is wide open. We're gonna 1836 01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:19,500 get this stuff materialized and it will be some ways you're 1837 01:55:19,500 --> 01:55:22,590 seeing some rewards that come along, not only with your title, 1838 01:55:23,370 --> 01:55:31,860 and give me two seconds. Like can't act and I have registered 1839 01:55:31,860 --> 01:55:33,810 hall with fam.com. 1840 01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:36,000 There we go. Now. 1841 01:55:37,170 --> 01:55:41,010 So, meeting adjourned, everybody good meeting. Good meeting. Well 1842 01:55:41,010 --> 01:55:42,150 done. Well done. 1843 01:55:42,420 --> 01:55:44,430 We continue to mail out those notes when? 1844 01:55:44,670 --> 01:55:46,830 Yes, I will. Of course, of course. I'll put them in the 1845 01:55:46,830 --> 01:55:53,730 distribution list back. Thank you. Zinco Hearn cave sends a 1846 01:55:53,730 --> 01:55:56,640 $60 to support thank you very much. Merry Christmas, Mona and 1847 01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:58,890 keep the great work. My wife and I tune in every week for the 1848 01:55:58,890 --> 01:56:02,250 shows. And the YouTube lives. Yeah, people you got to check 1849 01:56:02,250 --> 01:56:05,430 out the YouTube lives on the ultimate Wednesdays carry June 1850 01:56:05,430 --> 01:56:09,720 link sends us $50 No, no, appreciate it. Daniel Miller. No 1851 01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:13,260 note no jingles no karma and got it Daniel. Thank you. $50 Same 1852 01:56:13,260 --> 01:56:16,620 from Carol a chase $50 Thank you for your amazing content. 1853 01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,170 Blessings to you and your family. Dame Caroline of the 1854 01:56:19,170 --> 01:56:23,550 hatchet ranch. Is a name I recognize Bonnie Ray $50 says 1855 01:56:23,550 --> 01:56:26,430 hey, Mo Happy New Year to got to make a note on my donation 1856 01:56:26,430 --> 01:56:29,730 please. D dead beat me. Thank you for educating us listeners. 1857 01:56:32,430 --> 01:56:35,940 You're no longer a deadbeat. 1858 01:56:36,510 --> 01:56:39,150 Dad. Just say we don't have listeners. No, 1859 01:56:39,150 --> 01:56:39,900 we have producers. 1860 01:56:39,900 --> 01:56:42,600 We have producers family or deadbeats. 1861 01:56:42,660 --> 01:56:49,050 I mean, it's simple people. Choose one choose one year What 1862 01:56:49,050 --> 01:56:52,080 do you want to be? You choose one you tell me what you like? 1863 01:56:52,830 --> 01:56:56,070 Like a Scott Adams quiz? Would you rather be a deadbeat? Would 1864 01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:59,250 you rather be family? Or would you rather be a producer? 1865 01:56:59,910 --> 01:57:04,080 There's three choices. Robert stakers No deadbeat and he is an 1866 01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:06,450 associate our final Associate Executive Producer, episode 1867 01:57:06,450 --> 01:57:10,470 number 73. With Moe facts with Adam curry $50. No, no, but we 1868 01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:12,690 know that he sends it with love. And we appreciate that. And 1869 01:57:12,690 --> 01:57:16,290 thank you to everybody who supported the show. 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This is more about Kim Fox 1881 01:57:59,010 --> 01:58:02,610 in that situation. And Jesse, they're just using justice. Come 1882 01:58:02,610 --> 01:58:06,660 on. Yeah, there was no victims. They can't really prove it. And 1883 01:58:06,750 --> 01:58:07,680 everything was 1884 01:58:08,730 --> 01:58:12,420 a hoax. Even if it was a hoax. This is really happening all the 1885 01:58:12,420 --> 01:58:15,450 time. And even if it was a host for the sake of bringing 1886 01:58:15,450 --> 01:58:19,080 attention to this, then I'm like, That's Loki noble. I'm 1887 01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:23,910 just at my wit's end about us. censoring situations like this 1888 01:58:23,910 --> 01:58:27,570 and wanting to make people have to pay. And it's like, Emmett 1889 01:58:27,570 --> 01:58:31,980 Till's accuser, was a lot is I think she's still alive. Yeah. 1890 01:58:31,980 --> 01:58:36,960 And this young man died. And she announced that she was lying 1891 01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:39,390 about it. They should have put the shackles on her that day, 1892 01:58:39,570 --> 01:58:44,520 and she's walking around. So no one was hurt in this situation. 1893 01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:48,360 And nobody, you know what they're mad about their time, 1894 01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:51,450 their resources being the money, the taxpayers resources, 1895 01:58:51,660 --> 01:58:54,810 taxpayers resources are being used every day to imprison 1896 01:58:54,810 --> 01:58:58,530 people who have done nothing but be an addict. So I don't want to 1897 01:58:58,530 --> 01:59:01,200 hear Jussie Smollett. Okay. But 1898 01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:05,400 people that feel that well, what if I hate crime really happens 1899 01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:08,460 to me and now because of what Jesse Smollett is now they don't 1900 01:59:08,460 --> 01:59:09,030 believe if 1901 01:59:09,060 --> 01:59:12,210 this is this one instance is what makes them not believe you, 1902 01:59:12,210 --> 01:59:14,580 baby. That's a lie that they're telling ourselves. We have live 1903 01:59:14,580 --> 01:59:17,100 in a nation where they don't believe hate crimes every day. 1904 01:59:17,549 --> 01:59:22,019 Wow, what show was this? This was on the real man, that's a 1905 01:59:22,019 --> 01:59:23,069 dangerous show. 1906 01:59:23,879 --> 01:59:28,109 And you now you hear the power of lynching? Cuz she went and 1907 01:59:28,109 --> 01:59:32,579 invoked the biggest name in lynching in modern history is 1908 01:59:32,789 --> 01:59:37,049 emitting material. Yeah. And that was her clean all kinda let 1909 01:59:37,049 --> 01:59:39,599 me throw Emmett Till's name out here to get people to clap. And 1910 01:59:39,599 --> 01:59:42,659 you heard instantly the crowd went along with it. You have to 1911 01:59:42,659 --> 01:59:46,949 explain me to you. Well, Emmett Till was a young man that was 1912 01:59:47,519 --> 01:59:51,389 vacationing in the South. He allegedly whistled at a white 1913 01:59:51,389 --> 01:59:55,619 woman and a mob came to his house, carried him away, killed 1914 01:59:55,619 --> 02:00:00,149 him and threw him in a river with a cotton gin fan. him 1915 02:00:00,569 --> 02:00:03,719 around his neck. His body was mangled, and you know, 1916 02:00:03,719 --> 02:00:07,739 dismembered, but his mother allowed the casket to be open 1917 02:00:08,099 --> 02:00:12,419 for his funeral, which that the media ran with that story and 1918 02:00:12,419 --> 02:00:16,169 those pictures, and it basically, you know, brought 1919 02:00:16,199 --> 02:00:21,119 attention to the problems in the South. Now notice and 1920 02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:24,120 let's let's just establish this was the 50s. Right? This is a 1921 02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:24,990 long distance 1922 02:00:25,770 --> 02:00:28,800 was I think it would think it was earlier than that. I want to 1923 02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:32,190 say it was the 20s or 30s If I'm not mistaken, I'm terrible with 1924 02:00:32,190 --> 02:00:36,450 dates. Um, let me make sure I get that right. Because that was 1925 02:00:36,450 --> 02:00:40,320 part of the great it was great part of the great migration. The 1926 02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:43,800 second way let me see. You caught me flat footed here. 1927 02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:48,960 Adam. No, 75 Excuse me. What 55 You right? Oh, I 1928 02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:52,470 see here in the Wikipedia. Yeah. 55 Okay. Yes. 1929 02:00:52,980 --> 02:00:56,310 So I'm only 10 years before I was born 10 years but the reason 1930 02:00:56,310 --> 02:00:59,370 why I got confused was there you they use stories like this 1931 02:00:59,370 --> 02:01:04,470 lynching image to to drive people out of the south, to the 1932 02:01:04,470 --> 02:01:09,120 north, in the Great Migration starting in the 1940s because 1933 02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:12,420 they needed us but didn't this happen in Chicago? No, no, no, 1934 02:01:12,420 --> 02:01:16,950 no, no, he was. He was actually from Chicago. Oh, but he was 1935 02:01:16,950 --> 02:01:18,810 vacationing in this right 1936 02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:21,900 right. Oh, I remember he went down that dirt road he didn't 1937 02:01:21,900 --> 02:01:22,350 listen. 1938 02:01:22,890 --> 02:01:25,980 Well what he what he did was like I said he was he wasn't 1939 02:01:25,980 --> 02:01:30,450 aware of the customs of the south and allegedly Western. 1940 02:01:30,450 --> 02:01:33,210 That's what she was referring to the white woman should have been 1941 02:01:33,210 --> 02:01:37,740 looking for getting it to kill kill. But I want to say this the 1942 02:01:37,740 --> 02:01:39,150 reason why wait a minute. Wait. 1943 02:01:39,870 --> 02:01:43,200 Yes. The white woman What else does she do besides getting 1944 02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:43,890 whistled at? 1945 02:01:44,850 --> 02:01:49,110 She said that he whispered to her now story was that he didn't 1946 02:01:49,110 --> 02:01:54,270 whistled at her. Um, so it's some gray area there. But the 1947 02:01:54,270 --> 02:01:58,770 point I want to make is this is this elective even in 1955 to 1948 02:01:58,770 --> 02:02:02,160 select the outrage in the media because at the same time emit 1949 02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:05,520 cute to being killed in the south and highly publicized this 1950 02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:08,730 as the South was bad witch, I think they're really trying to 1951 02:02:08,730 --> 02:02:11,790 drive the black people out of style to get their land away 1952 02:02:11,790 --> 02:02:17,220 from by using terror, and drive them into the city centers which 1953 02:02:17,490 --> 02:02:21,060 foster the no man in the house, that kind of thing. Replacing 1954 02:02:21,060 --> 02:02:25,410 the Father with the status the Father. Um, in the same time, 1955 02:02:25,410 --> 02:02:29,550 there was a young man in a public beach, public segregated 1956 02:02:29,550 --> 02:02:33,150 beach in Chicago that floated from the black side to the white 1957 02:02:33,150 --> 02:02:37,860 side. He was basically stoned and drowned. And nobody's ever 1958 02:02:37,860 --> 02:02:40,620 heard their story. So I'm just saying that they say based 1959 02:02:40,620 --> 02:02:44,130 electively use and it's something I'll cover in a future 1960 02:02:44,130 --> 02:02:49,650 show, I'll mention, but Emmett Till is the trump card when you 1961 02:02:49,650 --> 02:02:53,430 want to play it the you know, the lynching hand, and that's 1962 02:02:53,430 --> 02:02:56,940 what she did there. Yeah. Which I find very disgusting because, 1963 02:02:57,630 --> 02:03:03,960 one, let me just say this Amanda seal is a has a couple of hoaxes 1964 02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:07,650 are legit hoaxes under her belt, what she done with a guy named 1965 02:03:07,650 --> 02:03:13,800 Myron Rolle, when he was a NFL player and a Rhodes Scholar. And 1966 02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:17,910 she outed him basically as a sexual predator, which is not 1967 02:03:17,910 --> 02:03:22,830 true. And she did it on Charlemagne to God show. And she 1968 02:03:23,010 --> 02:03:25,710 basically, I didn't say his name, but how many NFL players 1969 02:03:25,710 --> 02:03:30,630 are row scholars? Not? Right. So you basically said his name, but 1970 02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:33,630 then she was later called out for it, but that goes to show 1971 02:03:33,630 --> 02:03:37,290 their mentality long because it's for the greater good. Yeah, 1972 02:03:37,350 --> 02:03:41,220 they don't care how they use. Um, 1973 02:03:42,030 --> 02:03:43,530 they just don't care. They don't care. 1974 02:03:43,830 --> 02:03:46,740 They don't they don't care at all. Because you can invoke the 1975 02:03:46,740 --> 02:03:52,260 kind of support that she got off of the from the crowd when she 1976 02:03:52,260 --> 02:03:54,660 you said Emmett Till nine. That was the you know, to clean it 1977 02:03:54,660 --> 02:03:59,490 up. So still, that was what some of the hosting was like. Well, I 1978 02:03:59,490 --> 02:04:02,730 don't know about that. Amanda. And she doubled down on the next 1979 02:04:02,730 --> 02:04:03,030 clip. 1980 02:04:04,230 --> 02:04:05,460 Every single shot. 1981 02:04:07,230 --> 02:04:10,590 But I just want to I just want to ask because Jesse is the 1982 02:04:10,650 --> 02:04:15,180 like, it is huge nationwide news because he is famous. So if it 1983 02:04:15,180 --> 02:04:18,090 was a hoax, what do you think is the correct punishment and do or 1984 02:04:18,090 --> 02:04:20,460 do you think he should make a murderer is on probation? Sure. 1985 02:04:20,730 --> 02:04:22,650 But I'm asking about Jesse Smollett. I'm asking about that. 1986 02:04:22,650 --> 02:04:24,330 Because you said it. Where's Loki? Nobody 1987 02:04:24,660 --> 02:04:28,230 literally should be like, he should be applauded. Damn, they 1988 02:04:28,230 --> 02:04:30,990 got smacked on the wrist for all these people. And they can't 1989 02:04:30,990 --> 02:04:35,040 give a smack on it. Like because they're saying that it's a whole 1990 02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,160 big thing. I'm just I don't believe it. So when we look at 1991 02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:41,880 black men who are constantly getting the book thrown at them 1992 02:04:41,910 --> 02:04:45,060 all the time, all the time. 1993 02:04:48,300 --> 02:04:50,910 Oh, no. Now the black man is helpful. 1994 02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:55,140 When a political football and this is what we saw in 2020. And 1995 02:04:55,140 --> 02:04:57,780 she was the one was telling them I don't care. I don't care what 1996 02:04:57,780 --> 02:05:01,110 the candidate is she Kate hard for commodities. Just go vote 1997 02:05:01,110 --> 02:05:06,270 basically she was the one her Angela Ra was the most vocal 1998 02:05:06,270 --> 02:05:11,100 people to force black people to go vote democratic and shaming 1999 02:05:11,430 --> 02:05:14,790 shaming tactics or whatnot but so that goes to show you even if 2000 02:05:14,790 --> 02:05:19,080 Jesse it is a hoax there are a group of people out there they 2001 02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:21,480 see him as a hero and that was the point of that 2002 02:05:21,540 --> 02:05:26,820 no no no low key noble low key noble yes great t shirt I love 2003 02:05:26,820 --> 02:05:26,940 it 2004 02:05:27,420 --> 02:05:32,070 great. That's That's it and but you know what she's also 2005 02:05:32,070 --> 02:05:35,400 including herself to say well, if I do a black man under the 2006 02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:39,270 bus for being a predator, even if he isn't there are black men 2007 02:05:39,270 --> 02:05:42,960 there are predators out there so I'm Loki noble Yeah, so she was 2008 02:05:42,990 --> 02:05:47,700 she was even subconsciously I believe letting herself off the 2009 02:05:47,700 --> 02:05:50,310 hook for what she's has done in the past but 2010 02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:53,940 she's she's already using the the situation that the Soros 2011 02:05:53,940 --> 02:05:57,210 sisters have created with this you know slap on the wrist go 2012 02:05:57,210 --> 02:05:57,630 home. 2013 02:05:58,410 --> 02:06:01,710 What she's using it as the justification Yeah, but they're 2014 02:06:01,710 --> 02:06:04,710 the source of the problem. Hello, we don't want martyr 2015 02:06:04,740 --> 02:06:07,890 murderers to get slaps on the wrist. That's what that's the 2016 02:06:07,890 --> 02:06:11,190 whole problem because whether they live they're not going into 2017 02:06:11,190 --> 02:06:14,460 your neighborhood. They're coming back home to the 2018 02:06:14,460 --> 02:06:18,300 neighborhoods that you know they terrorized and terrorized right 2019 02:06:18,420 --> 02:06:22,200 so it's this this weird thing and they using terror to let 2020 02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:24,690 tear off the hook which is a very 2021 02:06:25,110 --> 02:06:27,210 very evil evil let's just call it evil 2022 02:06:27,450 --> 02:06:30,900 and and a mind screw it's a complete mind screw. So now we 2023 02:06:30,900 --> 02:06:35,580 have to get into who are the smell let's have the untold 2024 02:06:35,580 --> 02:06:37,830 truth of the smell let family 2025 02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:43,290 Jake jazz Jesse Jenny, Jackie and Jojo, a summer stuck in 2026 02:06:43,290 --> 02:06:46,380 scandal summer rising stars and all of them are pretty good 2027 02:06:46,380 --> 02:06:49,290 cooks. Here's everything you need to know about the smallest 2028 02:06:49,290 --> 02:06:53,910 family may have arrived. The smallest siblings are the 2029 02:06:53,910 --> 02:06:57,360 children of Joel small at senior, a Russian Polish Jew and 2030 02:06:57,360 --> 02:07:00,540 Jeanette Smollett, an African American from New Orleans. The 2031 02:07:00,540 --> 02:07:03,450 couple moved around a lot when the kids were young, alternating 2032 02:07:03,450 --> 02:07:07,290 between the east and west coast. According to a 2020 interview by 2033 02:07:07,290 --> 02:07:10,920 Essence with Jasmine Jake, they relocated between states as many 2034 02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:14,580 as 13 times Jeanette small ads and her late husband Joel small 2035 02:07:14,580 --> 02:07:17,700 lead senior war activists are rubbed shoulders with everyone 2036 02:07:17,700 --> 02:07:21,630 from the cofounders of the Black Panther Party. Civil Rights 2037 02:07:21,630 --> 02:07:25,860 leaders day 2016 interview Jussie Smollett told The New 2038 02:07:25,860 --> 02:07:28,890 York Times my mom was in the movement with Bobby Seale and 2039 02:07:28,890 --> 02:07:32,190 Huey Newton, and one of her first mentors was Julian Bond. 2040 02:07:32,340 --> 02:07:35,550 To this day. Angela Davis is one of our dearest friends. We've 2041 02:07:35,550 --> 02:07:38,670 spent Mother's Day with Angela, the company that the small apps 2042 02:07:38,670 --> 02:07:41,040 like to keep clearly rubbed off on their children because 2043 02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:43,950 they've been protesting pretty much the whole life's a calling 2044 02:07:43,950 --> 02:07:46,800 to journey. She was five years old when she joined a mom with a 2045 02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:49,950 first process. She was out in the streets holding a sign when 2046 02:07:49,950 --> 02:07:52,770 the Los Angeles cops who beat Rodney King were acquitted on 2047 02:07:52,770 --> 02:07:55,740 assault charges. She told The Hollywood Reporter that she was 2048 02:07:55,740 --> 02:07:58,470 even allowed to see the film Malcolm X when it was still in 2049 02:07:58,470 --> 02:08:02,100 theaters. As she puts it. My mom would cover our eyes in certain 2050 02:08:02,100 --> 02:08:04,890 parts, but she didn't want to share with us from our history. 2051 02:08:04,980 --> 02:08:07,650 More recently, the small that siblings have lent their support 2052 02:08:07,650 --> 02:08:10,440 to the Black Lives Matter movement by attending marches 2053 02:08:10,470 --> 02:08:13,680 and protests AXA Alfre Woodard, who worked with the siblings of 2054 02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:16,710 the nonprofit artists for New South Africa, told The New York 2055 02:08:16,710 --> 02:08:20,310 Times their sense of justice is very strong, and it permeates 2056 02:08:20,310 --> 02:08:21,300 everything that they do. 2057 02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:24,180 This is all true. 2058 02:08:24,630 --> 02:08:30,240 Yes, the shoulders with the Black Panthers, which and with 2059 02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:33,720 all the infiltration going over over there. It's amazing how 2060 02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:35,910 these people rub shoulders with the Black Panther. But they're 2061 02:08:35,910 --> 02:08:40,080 still free. I wonder how I wonder how that works out. But, 2062 02:08:40,440 --> 02:08:45,900 uh, yeah, so you heard they've been activists? Yeah. From the 2063 02:08:45,900 --> 02:08:48,420 different there we days. I'm sure they were saying. 2064 02:08:51,180 --> 02:08:57,270 It's got lineage man, Jed Jesse's got got homeless. Yeah, 2065 02:08:57,270 --> 02:08:58,770 I have that here. Where's that? 2066 02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:06,960 Thank you, sir. So we see it's this ilk of so called people 2067 02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:11,820 brought up, you know, in the, you know, a system of activism. 2068 02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:15,630 From a very early age Kamala being worn by her by her own 2069 02:09:15,630 --> 02:09:21,270 testimony. And then we see Jesse and journey, which journey I 2070 02:09:21,270 --> 02:09:24,990 think is the bigger star in the family. And I see Jesse being 2071 02:09:24,990 --> 02:09:31,080 like the Fredo in the family. Um, he is big. Right? Well, even 2072 02:09:31,080 --> 02:09:34,140 then he could never be bigger than his sister. His sister has 2073 02:09:34,980 --> 02:09:40,980 a significant a catalogue of stuff. She's starting from a 2074 02:09:40,980 --> 02:09:45,150 very early age. What's your name? Johnny Smollett, she was 2075 02:09:45,150 --> 02:09:48,810 the black girls that played in full house. 2076 02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:51,360 Oh, wow. That 2077 02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:56,430 was a Michelle's friend. goes back that far. And then her cat 2078 02:09:56,430 --> 02:10:01,050 I mean, she's played opposite of Denzel Washington. Samuel 2079 02:10:01,050 --> 02:10:09,570 Jackson um, what's the drawing blanks now out for Alfre 2080 02:10:09,570 --> 02:10:13,800 Woodard, what's the other lady's name? To play Tina Turner. I'm 2081 02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:16,920 drawing a blank Angela Bassam Angela. Banjo, bass, another. 2082 02:10:17,100 --> 02:10:21,990 She played opposite all of these celebrities. So she has chops. 2083 02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:26,730 And I think like, she is the real. She's the real star 2084 02:10:26,730 --> 02:10:27,180 family. 2085 02:10:27,210 --> 02:10:31,050 She's also been a lot of in a lot of, kind of like Vampire a 2086 02:10:31,050 --> 02:10:34,860 cultish type TV shows Twilight. Twilight. Oh, yeah, 2087 02:10:34,860 --> 02:10:39,930 she's a very dark person. Yeah, very. Which we're going to get 2088 02:10:39,930 --> 02:10:43,440 in that maybe in the last tapes of that, of that side. Because a 2089 02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:46,290 lot of stuff that wouldn't translate through audio but 2090 02:10:46,290 --> 02:10:50,550 right. With that said, let's see. We stopped that. 2091 02:10:50,610 --> 02:10:55,170 We had 24. Okay, we're at 24. Ah, yes, Kim Fox and her 2092 02:10:55,170 --> 02:10:55,800 buddies. 2093 02:10:56,490 --> 02:11:00,240 Yes, let's go ahead and get into that one and find out a new name 2094 02:11:00,300 --> 02:11:01,050 in the story. 2095 02:11:01,200 --> 02:11:03,600 No one can speak for a woman like a woman. 2096 02:11:06,090 --> 02:11:09,510 Despite the public backlash and accusations from as high up as 2097 02:11:09,510 --> 02:11:12,510 the mayor that just the smell let's celebrity influence and 2098 02:11:12,510 --> 02:11:15,240 power played a role in the charges against him being 2099 02:11:15,240 --> 02:11:19,170 dropped. Kim Fox maintains that his case was not treated any 2100 02:11:19,170 --> 02:11:21,210 differently than similar cases. 2101 02:11:22,860 --> 02:11:27,090 I'm Tina Chen. I am formerly chief of staff to First Lady 2102 02:11:27,090 --> 02:11:30,960 Michelle Obama. And I was also the executive director of the 2103 02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:33,210 White House Council on Women and Girls for President Obama. 2104 02:11:33,330 --> 02:11:37,530 Tina Chen, former chief of staff to Michelle Obama, reached out 2105 02:11:37,530 --> 02:11:41,190 to Kim Fox on behalf of the small family saying they have 2106 02:11:41,190 --> 02:11:45,540 concerns about the investigation in the exchanges. Fox scene 2107 02:11:45,540 --> 02:11:50,130 trying to get the case turned over to the FBI, texting Chen. I 2108 02:11:50,130 --> 02:11:52,350 make no guarantees. But I'm trying. 2109 02:11:52,530 --> 02:11:55,770 Yeah, this this was a great little piece of the whole story 2110 02:11:55,770 --> 02:11:58,920 that never really got the follow up. It's certainly deserved. 2111 02:11:59,490 --> 02:12:04,800 Oh, well, we're gonna do it now. So Tina, she and I have to make 2112 02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:07,230 this one thing. And when we say stuff like this, we got to be 2113 02:12:07,230 --> 02:12:11,940 clear that we do sometimes but we have to be clear. We're not 2114 02:12:11,940 --> 02:12:15,450 talking about people personally. But just the optics of people 2115 02:12:15,510 --> 02:12:18,300 when the how they're portrayed in the media. Correct. One thing 2116 02:12:18,300 --> 02:12:23,820 I've noticed is these women around Michelle Obama, aka big 2117 02:12:23,820 --> 02:12:29,790 Mish, I'm very large faces in heads. Kim Fox has a very large 2118 02:12:29,790 --> 02:12:34,380 head. Tina Chen has a very low I mean, like, abnormally large. 2119 02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:39,120 I'm just saying without saying, um, but let's go ahead and get 2120 02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:42,060 into it. Now. I'm just what is like, what is that? I don't I 2121 02:12:42,060 --> 02:12:42,450 don't know what 2122 02:12:42,450 --> 02:12:45,000 that is, um, could be a lot of things. 2123 02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:49,890 I don't know. But um, let's see. So Tina chin, we brought her 2124 02:12:49,890 --> 02:12:53,340 into the story. So we let's go back up a little bit. And we 2125 02:12:53,340 --> 02:12:58,110 heard about Jurnee Smollett and Jesse Smollett being active in 2126 02:12:58,110 --> 02:13:03,030 the time's up. And which time's up with, I believe, is the CO 2127 02:13:03,030 --> 02:13:07,350 opting of the me to movement by Oprah. I have some facts later 2128 02:13:07,350 --> 02:13:11,340 that you're saying that lends to that analysis. And let's go 2129 02:13:11,340 --> 02:13:14,760 ahead and get into the CO opting of the time's up movement. And 2130 02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:18,480 then we'll work our way back into the journey smell that 2131 02:13:18,510 --> 02:13:20,010 working with the time's up movement. 2132 02:13:20,250 --> 02:13:25,890 In 1944 receipt, Taylor was a young wife and a mother. She was 2133 02:13:25,890 --> 02:13:29,280 just walking home from church service. She attended and 2134 02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:34,260 Abigail Alabama, when she was abducted by six armed white men 2135 02:13:34,260 --> 02:13:38,040 raped and left blindfolded by the side of the road, coming 2136 02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:42,960 home from church she lived, as we all have lived too many years 2137 02:13:42,960 --> 02:13:48,930 in a culture broken by brutally powerful men. For too long women 2138 02:13:48,930 --> 02:13:53,850 have not been heard or believed if they dared to speak their 2139 02:13:53,850 --> 02:13:59,070 truth to the power of those men. But their time is up. 2140 02:14:04,410 --> 02:14:10,320 I just hope that Rishi Taylor died knowing that her truth, 2141 02:14:10,500 --> 02:14:13,710 like the truth of so many other women who were tormented in 2142 02:14:13,710 --> 02:14:19,080 those years, and even now tormented goes marching on. It 2143 02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:22,500 was somewhere in Rosa Parks is hard, almost 11 years later when 2144 02:14:22,590 --> 02:14:25,530 she made the decision to stay seated on that bus in 2145 02:14:25,530 --> 02:14:30,540 Montgomery. And it's here with every woman who chooses to say 2146 02:14:30,780 --> 02:14:40,710 me to every man, every man who chooses to listen, The New Day 2147 02:14:40,710 --> 02:14:52,380 is on the horizon. And when that new day finally dawns. It will 2148 02:14:52,380 --> 02:14:57,300 be because of a lot of magnificent women, many of whom 2149 02:14:57,300 --> 02:15:01,890 are right here in this room tonight. Some pretty phenomenal 2150 02:15:01,890 --> 02:15:08,580 men fighting hard to make sure that they become the leaders who 2151 02:15:08,580 --> 02:15:15,960 take us to the time when nobody ever has to say, Me, too. Again 2152 02:15:21,570 --> 02:15:27,570 so yeah, so nobody was saying me to again, I think this was the 2153 02:15:27,570 --> 02:15:32,160 CO opting of the me to movement, sort of how Black Lives Matter 2154 02:15:32,160 --> 02:15:37,890 co opted the grass moot grass root movement of a das slash 2155 02:15:37,890 --> 02:15:42,510 foundational black 100% was 100% was Oprah coming in cleaning up 2156 02:15:42,570 --> 02:15:47,160 because you know, you had to max Maxwell Julie Maxwell case, if I 2157 02:15:47,160 --> 02:15:51,030 pronounced that right. Also Harvey Weinstein, every theme, 2158 02:15:51,060 --> 02:15:53,220 everything was lingering out there. Like we can't have this 2159 02:15:53,220 --> 02:15:54,330 grass roots out here. Let's 2160 02:15:54,330 --> 02:15:59,040 go ahead and switch gears from me too. Yeah. And it was up and 2161 02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:02,940 we'd be in a position of control and it was Alyssa Milano whose 2162 02:16:02,940 --> 02:16:08,550 husband is an agent at the big agency William Morris. I think 2163 02:16:08,550 --> 02:16:11,790 so it was a lot of William Morris clients and people Oh, it 2164 02:16:11,790 --> 02:16:13,650 was very managed very manage. 2165 02:16:14,700 --> 02:16:21,690 So much so that seal a came out and use the mean to criticize 2166 02:16:21,720 --> 02:16:22,830 Oprah and time's up. 2167 02:16:23,010 --> 02:16:25,650 After Oprah speech at the Golden Globes, people have tried to 2168 02:16:25,650 --> 02:16:28,380 make the claim that she knew about Harvey Weinstein's 2169 02:16:28,380 --> 02:16:33,150 criminal acts, even the singer Ciel share this meme, which has 2170 02:16:33,150 --> 02:16:36,630 photos of Oprah and Harvey together, and it says, when you 2171 02:16:36,630 --> 02:16:39,150 have been part of the problem for decades, but suddenly they 2172 02:16:39,150 --> 02:16:40,050 all think you are 2173 02:16:40,050 --> 02:16:44,010 the solution. That seems like a pretty direct dig at Oprah. No, 2174 02:16:44,340 --> 02:16:48,630 it really is. And those photos, yes, we also wrote why I forgot. 2175 02:16:48,660 --> 02:16:52,230 That's right. You heard the rumors, but had no idea who was 2176 02:16:52,230 --> 02:16:55,470 actually Searly assaulting young starry eyed actresses who in 2177 02:16:55,470 --> 02:16:59,520 turn had no idea what they were getting into my bad. But wait, 2178 02:16:59,880 --> 02:17:02,400 sanctimonious Hollywood that's the hashtag right there. Sure. 2179 02:17:02,400 --> 02:17:03,240 Long hashtag but 2180 02:17:03,240 --> 02:17:09,240 now, he still says he wasn't dissing Oprah that Oh, come on. 2181 02:17:09,300 --> 02:17:09,750 That's 2182 02:17:12,660 --> 02:17:18,600 what she'll say. He's not sure my hashtag. 2183 02:17:18,600 --> 02:17:24,720 But now, he still says he wasn't listening. Oh. Come on. 2184 02:17:26,490 --> 02:17:30,450 Amanda has spent everything that Oprah has achieved and 2185 02:17:30,450 --> 02:17:35,550 contributed in her life. What I reposted was not an attack on 2186 02:17:35,580 --> 02:17:39,180 Oprah at all. She just happened to be the person photographed 2187 02:17:39,180 --> 02:17:43,590 with the pig in the picture. Know, what I reposted was 2188 02:17:43,590 --> 02:17:48,360 commentary on the hypocritical and double standard nature and 2189 02:17:48,390 --> 02:17:53,730 behavior of Hollywood. So Fox News back off. Don't try and use 2190 02:17:53,730 --> 02:17:57,930 me as a pawn against Oprah. And in any of your political games 2191 02:17:57,930 --> 02:18:03,030 and Stacey Dash. Keep my name out of your mouth. Do not 2192 02:18:03,060 --> 02:18:09,030 retweet, re quote. Anything I have said in order to reinforce 2193 02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:14,400 your self hating agenda. You live in the sunken place. Again, 2194 02:18:14,550 --> 02:18:17,130 this was not an attack against Oprah. 2195 02:18:17,639 --> 02:18:24,299 Wow. You know, I you rarely hear seal speak. And seal was a cool 2196 02:18:24,299 --> 02:18:27,989 dude. You know, it's like just to see those like, yeah, cool 2197 02:18:27,989 --> 02:18:31,499 man. Supermodel and she I divorced her neither. You know, 2198 02:18:31,499 --> 02:18:36,269 just like Oh, man. And now you hear him talk like that. guy 2199 02:18:36,269 --> 02:18:37,589 loses cool points. 2200 02:18:37,650 --> 02:18:41,760 That phone you see now really powerful. That phone is very 2201 02:18:41,760 --> 02:18:47,130 powerful. Boulais meme. The meme he posted had Oprah it's a very 2202 02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:52,680 famous picture of Oprah. With with Harvey Weinstein actress, 2203 02:18:53,160 --> 02:18:56,940 and Harvey Weinstein, like he's, she's basically handing this 2204 02:18:56,940 --> 02:19:01,050 actress over. You go hard handed, like type thing. So how 2205 02:19:01,050 --> 02:19:05,280 can you get that confused? But then he does his pivot chicken 2206 02:19:05,280 --> 02:19:08,220 squat kind of thing. It's not it's not a pivot. He does his 2207 02:19:08,220 --> 02:19:14,370 chicken squat kind of thing to say, to try to pick on Stacey 2208 02:19:14,370 --> 02:19:18,120 Dash, which they love to keep these people around. I'm not 2209 02:19:18,120 --> 02:19:21,090 taking a station dead cuz she has her own issues that she's 2210 02:19:21,090 --> 02:19:24,090 dealing with. And she does. She is opportunities, you know, 2211 02:19:24,090 --> 02:19:27,120 saying to win brownie points with the conservative side 2212 02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:30,600 whenever she can, but to say are you live in the sunken place, 2213 02:19:30,600 --> 02:19:34,950 basically saying that is a throwback to the movie. Get out. 2214 02:19:35,250 --> 02:19:38,880 When the white person took over the black person's body and the 2215 02:19:38,910 --> 02:19:42,240 black actor would go into the sunken place. We had no control. 2216 02:19:42,480 --> 02:19:43,590 That's what he's alluding. 2217 02:19:43,620 --> 02:19:46,530 Oh, that's it. That's it. That's a pretty good slam. I hadn't 2218 02:19:46,530 --> 02:19:48,840 heard that. I didn't. I didn't catch that. Okay, 2219 02:19:48,900 --> 02:19:51,810 this is a backhanded way to saying you're controlled by 2220 02:19:51,810 --> 02:19:54,330 white people. So that's what he's saying. 2221 02:19:54,900 --> 02:19:57,600 Has anyone else use that haters? Well as anyone else use that 2222 02:19:57,600 --> 02:19:58,830 term, whenever you 2223 02:19:58,830 --> 02:20:02,190 hear that term sucking place that is a allusion to the movie. 2224 02:20:03,240 --> 02:20:07,830 Okay, and it's spoiler alert in the plot of the movie I've seen 2225 02:20:08,400 --> 02:20:12,450 people yeah so you get the point in that that's like you're being 2226 02:20:12,450 --> 02:20:17,550 co opted on a on a biological personal level and that's what 2227 02:20:17,550 --> 02:20:20,100 he did and I think it's very chicken squat because it's like 2228 02:20:20,100 --> 02:20:23,730 bro you don't have you you know what you said you got the call 2229 02:20:23,880 --> 02:20:26,820 you had the backup offer but they say you want some more scar 2230 02:20:26,820 --> 02:20:31,110 steel. You're saying you better get right. Wow, I'm sorry. Oh, 2231 02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:37,350 sorry. Bro, that's how they don't get it twisted. To get a 2232 02:20:37,350 --> 02:20:37,950 man Yes. 2233 02:20:38,520 --> 02:20:41,730 Okay, but that's but that's my point. Why did the Boulais not 2234 02:20:41,730 --> 02:20:44,520 just actually string Jesse up? It would have worked. 2235 02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:48,210 No, it's messy. If you do it that way. You got dead bodies. 2236 02:20:48,210 --> 02:20:53,730 You got cameras. You got this thing? 1964 in Canada no more. 2237 02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:58,020 You everything is gonna be psyops. Yeah, true. This is like 2238 02:20:58,050 --> 02:20:58,920 the birth 2239 02:20:58,949 --> 02:21:02,069 of prayer. The good old guys who just hang someone up and just do 2240 02:21:02,069 --> 02:21:03,809 it for real to make a point. 2241 02:21:04,380 --> 02:21:06,690 Well, no, it's systematic now. And that's the whole point I've 2242 02:21:06,690 --> 02:21:09,810 been trying to make out of 73 episodes. It's no more stringing 2243 02:21:09,810 --> 02:21:11,580 up systems. 2244 02:21:11,640 --> 02:21:14,880 It's just using trauma using trauma using information and 2245 02:21:14,880 --> 02:21:15,840 media to do it. 2246 02:21:16,260 --> 02:21:19,380 Well, we saw it happen to see you. Yeah, it's like standing 2247 02:21:19,380 --> 02:21:22,350 your nightstand you'll stay in line boy. You better stay in 2248 02:21:22,350 --> 02:21:27,030 line. You're saying that those are the lynch mob now it to make 2249 02:21:27,030 --> 02:21:31,350 a man of his stature physically. And you're saying financially 2250 02:21:31,530 --> 02:21:36,600 and celebrity to not only backtrack, but he did a 2251 02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:40,740 disgusting way to do it to say, I wasn't talking about Oprah. 2252 02:21:40,860 --> 02:21:42,720 You just twisted my word brother. No. 2253 02:21:42,900 --> 02:21:46,890 I was reposting. I was reposting you don't understand a retweet 2254 02:21:46,890 --> 02:21:48,000 is not my opinion. 2255 02:21:48,810 --> 02:21:53,490 Right bullcrap. Ah. So that's seal his Boulay phone moment. 2256 02:21:53,670 --> 02:21:57,840 But now we're gonna get into Tina Chen and Michelle Obama's 2257 02:21:57,840 --> 02:22:01,920 former chief of staff, and she announces her new position at 2258 02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:02,520 times up. 2259 02:22:03,269 --> 02:22:06,269 Times up movement came to life nearly two years ago when more 2260 02:22:06,269 --> 02:22:09,419 than 300 powerful women in Hollywood took a stand against 2261 02:22:09,419 --> 02:22:12,419 sexual harassment in the workplace. Its mission is to 2262 02:22:12,419 --> 02:22:16,319 ensure equity and safety in the workplace across all industries. 2263 02:22:16,559 --> 02:22:19,649 It's responding to survivors who came forward through the me to 2264 02:22:19,649 --> 02:22:20,099 movement. 2265 02:22:20,820 --> 02:22:24,390 CBS Corporation donated $20 million dollars last year to 2266 02:22:24,390 --> 02:22:27,090 advocacy groups working to end sexual harassment in the 2267 02:22:27,090 --> 02:22:31,350 workplace, including time's up. Only on CBS This Morning. Time's 2268 02:22:31,350 --> 02:22:35,850 up as announcing the organization's new leader. There 2269 02:22:35,850 --> 02:22:42,690 she is here at the table. Just slipping in like she's co 2270 02:22:42,690 --> 02:22:44,970 founder of Time's Up Legal Defense Fund and the former 2271 02:22:44,970 --> 02:22:48,360 chief of staff to First Lady Michelle Obama. Tina Chen joins 2272 02:22:48,360 --> 02:22:51,630 us first on CBS This Morning. Congratulations and welcome. 2273 02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:55,500 Thank you. Thank you. I could not be more thrilled to be able 2274 02:22:55,500 --> 02:22:56,760 to take this job. Why are 2275 02:22:56,760 --> 02:22:59,010 you thrilled because there's been a couple of hiccups. You 2276 02:22:59,010 --> 02:23:02,340 know, they're, they're four months ago, we had to make a 2277 02:23:02,340 --> 02:23:05,760 change at the top and now you are here. What's your biggest 2278 02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:07,800 challenge? I want to know why you're so thrilled I saw you 2279 02:23:07,800 --> 02:23:10,020 back when you were getting ready. And thrilled would be the 2280 02:23:10,020 --> 02:23:11,490 word to describe you the world's 2281 02:23:11,520 --> 02:23:14,970 third alternative gal. I've been living these issues my whole 2282 02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:18,870 life. I've been a single working mom my entire career working in 2283 02:23:18,870 --> 02:23:21,930 places like law firms and the White House. So I've seen the 2284 02:23:21,930 --> 02:23:26,280 issues that women confront in workplaces and advocating for 2285 02:23:26,280 --> 02:23:29,250 policy change that just a couple of weeks ago, folks from time's 2286 02:23:29,250 --> 02:23:31,860 up were with Governor Cuomo when he signed the New York safety 2287 02:23:31,860 --> 02:23:35,880 agenda that changed laws here in New York know to help protect 2288 02:23:35,940 --> 02:23:37,320 victims of sexual assault. 2289 02:23:38,820 --> 02:23:44,280 Ah, okay, okay. Okay, hold on. Hold on a second. So first of 2290 02:23:44,280 --> 02:23:51,420 all, Oh, wow. That was so the the shake up was I didn't 2291 02:23:51,420 --> 02:23:56,310 realize that. Kaplan was was the CEO of Time's up. 2292 02:23:57,360 --> 02:24:01,230 Yep. Oh, it had to go and they bring it to machine 2293 02:24:01,380 --> 02:24:05,850 cheese. And what's interesting is that they're they're like, 2294 02:24:05,850 --> 02:24:09,600 this is some kind of award like Oh, congratulations is so great. 2295 02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:13,200 So Phantom, I got to look into this group. Is this a nonprofit? 2296 02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:17,430 Or do we is there any This is a curry cash investigation must 2297 02:24:17,430 --> 02:24:18,390 commence on this. 2298 02:24:19,890 --> 02:24:22,740 Drop course you're gonna I'm gonna need to carry cash check. 2299 02:24:22,980 --> 02:24:28,140 ASAP on this. Yeah, um, but yeah, and now we get to listen 2300 02:24:28,140 --> 02:24:33,240 to Tina Chan. And Jurnee Smollett, do their mind control 2301 02:24:33,660 --> 02:24:36,960 of these poor women and this was at the United State of Women's 2302 02:24:36,960 --> 02:24:41,640 Summit. And back in 2018. It's a long clip like I said before, a 2303 02:24:41,640 --> 02:24:45,000 to two minutes and 16 seconds. Oh, stop. Feel free to stop 2304 02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:45,450 where you want. 2305 02:24:50,610 --> 02:24:54,210 Please welcome Tina Chen and journeys smilax 2306 02:25:02,250 --> 02:25:09,780 Hello everyone. Tina, this is so amazing. Thank you look at these 2307 02:25:09,780 --> 02:25:16,740 beautiful people. Okay, so time's up time's up time's up. 2308 02:25:17,340 --> 02:25:23,250 It's it's a global movement it's a little over 100 days. Oh, is 2309 02:25:23,730 --> 02:25:27,870 all across the globe it's leaderless. Its recent here 2310 02:25:27,870 --> 02:25:29,880 links not ranked. Okay, so tell me 2311 02:25:29,880 --> 02:25:38,280 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa okay, it's not 2312 02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:41,760 a global movement. Everyone still says Me too. Me too all 2313 02:25:41,760 --> 02:25:46,050 over the world. Not time's up. Did she say leaderless? 2314 02:25:46,529 --> 02:25:52,229 leaderless? As we're we're relinked not ranked. 2315 02:25:52,920 --> 02:25:55,050 Ooh, that's a good. That's a nice line. 2316 02:25:56,430 --> 02:26:00,000 That's a great line. Um, but leaderless. We've already made 2317 02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:03,240 clear who the leader is OPRAH Yeah, Oprah's goal was to say 2318 02:26:03,240 --> 02:26:07,530 what no woman would have to ever say me too, again. Is that a 2319 02:26:07,530 --> 02:26:11,790 double meaning to that term? To say they'll start saying time's 2320 02:26:11,790 --> 02:26:16,950 up. Oh, are you trying to eradicate the whole sexual 2321 02:26:16,950 --> 02:26:21,840 harassment and sexual assault culture? Either one works or 2322 02:26:21,840 --> 02:26:22,440 works? 2323 02:26:22,980 --> 02:26:28,620 Oh, man. It's a little over 100 days. Oh, there it is. All 2324 02:26:28,620 --> 02:26:32,280 across the globe. It's leaderless. It's real recent 2325 02:26:32,280 --> 02:26:35,160 here. Length not ranked. Okay, so tell us what's next. 2326 02:26:35,190 --> 02:26:38,160 What's next. So what's next is let's start with talking about 2327 02:26:38,160 --> 02:26:43,410 the time's up Legal Defense Fund, yes, $21 million per day. 2328 02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:51,720 Over 2500 People have come to us for help 2500 In less than 100 2329 02:26:51,720 --> 02:26:55,770 day over just over 100 days. Two thirds of them identify as low 2330 02:26:55,770 --> 02:26:59,520 income. They are across 60 different industries. And they 2331 02:26:59,520 --> 02:27:03,750 are saying things to us like for the first time I feel brave. For 2332 02:27:03,750 --> 02:27:06,540 the first time someone's listened to my story. So what's 2333 02:27:06,540 --> 02:27:10,200 next is we got to keep pushing on the Legal Defense Fund, go to 2334 02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:13,080 the National Women's Law Center's website home of the 2335 02:27:13,080 --> 02:27:17,880 time's up Legal Defense Fund, and wlc.org. If you need help, 2336 02:27:17,910 --> 02:27:21,600 you can find it there. If you are a lawyer, or public 2337 02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:25,620 relations expert, you can volunteer there. And if you're 2338 02:27:25,620 --> 02:27:28,470 none of those things, you can support it by finding more 2339 02:27:28,470 --> 02:27:32,880 money. hold a fundraiser in your local books book, your book 2340 02:27:32,880 --> 02:27:36,150 group, your school, your neighborhood to support the 2341 02:27:36,150 --> 02:27:40,980 time's up Legal Defense Fund and keep speaking out and supporting 2342 02:27:41,190 --> 02:27:44,490 everyone in their workplace because time's up, we are going 2343 02:27:44,490 --> 02:27:49,680 to create safe and dignified workplaces for everyone. That's 2344 02:27:49,680 --> 02:27:52,050 our our mission work with. 2345 02:28:01,980 --> 02:28:06,180 Okay, and this is rather interesting, because the time's 2346 02:28:06,180 --> 02:28:10,290 up Legal Defense Fund is a part of something it's not it's not 2347 02:28:10,290 --> 02:28:14,280 its own entity. Is something much bigger than National 2348 02:28:14,280 --> 02:28:19,890 Women's Law Center. Yes. So this is a 2349 02:28:19,890 --> 02:28:22,380 mammography $1 million in 100 2350 02:28:22,380 --> 02:28:26,250 days. Oh, but these, this group has a lot more than that. This 2351 02:28:26,250 --> 02:28:31,590 group is much bigger. So this this is kind of like be like 2352 02:28:31,590 --> 02:28:37,920 Austin, Austin Legal Defense Fund or Austin black artists 2353 02:28:37,950 --> 02:28:42,000 defense fund or some shit like that in and you and you donate 2354 02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:45,420 money and it doesn't go to them and goes to the prison reform. 2355 02:28:46,200 --> 02:28:50,190 Nonprofit in Houston that's not doing something for artists in 2356 02:28:50,190 --> 02:28:54,450 Austin. And they don't they don't even get a hold that I'm 2357 02:28:54,450 --> 02:28:58,950 just looking at this end. wlc.org It's this is huge. This 2358 02:28:58,950 --> 02:29:01,500 is a big thing. This is real money here. 2359 02:29:01,830 --> 02:29:06,540 I'll repeat again. $21 million. That's nothing. 100 days, 2360 02:29:06,570 --> 02:29:09,480 nothing compared to what these people are capable of. 2361 02:29:09,840 --> 02:29:13,050 Yeah, but they put it plucked out of thin air. It's like 2362 02:29:13,050 --> 02:29:16,680 time's up. They co opted to move the me to movement. And I have 2363 02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:19,920 to say this right now. To the whales out there. I know you 2364 02:29:19,920 --> 02:29:24,030 listening whales come close to whales. Oh, we need this kind of 2365 02:29:24,030 --> 02:29:28,350 money. If they can get 21 million 100 days come on now. 2366 02:29:28,530 --> 02:29:36,390 They have 20 So for their 2020 Numbers 2020 Numbers $68 2367 02:29:36,390 --> 02:29:36,720 million. 2368 02:29:38,430 --> 02:29:43,350 If that's my point this this was just in 100 days. Yeah, a whole 2369 02:29:43,350 --> 02:29:48,300 new operation. obrah goes online and says Tom's mesto. So 2370 02:29:48,300 --> 02:29:52,950 this is this is before this is before the 21 million. Yes. 2371 02:29:54,750 --> 02:29:59,370 This is 2018 We're talking about this this this this before they 2372 02:29:59,370 --> 02:30:02,790 even got there You know, got their feet under right under, 2373 02:30:02,850 --> 02:30:07,680 right and then and then an army of lawyers as well. But they're 2374 02:30:07,680 --> 02:30:10,200 doing the same thing if you're a lawyer, come on and donate your 2375 02:30:10,200 --> 02:30:13,590 time. Donate your talent. Yeah, that's what they're saying tune. 2376 02:30:14,220 --> 02:30:19,320 This thing has been around since 2014. And they say they started 2377 02:30:19,320 --> 02:30:23,670 off with the with 10 million bucks. This is big is a big, big 2378 02:30:23,670 --> 02:30:28,290 Goldman Sachs people on here. Oh, okay. Well, thanks. I gotta 2379 02:30:28,290 --> 02:30:31,020 go look at these jamokes Well, 2380 02:30:31,110 --> 02:30:35,250 let's get into Jurnee Smollett activism now, and this is her 2381 02:30:35,250 --> 02:30:39,960 talking to Jamil Hill, about the path for me I shall actor to me 2382 02:30:39,960 --> 02:30:40,560 activists? 2383 02:30:41,399 --> 02:30:45,209 Was there something that you saw or experienced in South Africa 2384 02:30:45,209 --> 02:30:49,889 that where this light bulb went off? So many things, you know, 2385 02:30:49,889 --> 02:30:53,339 I'd been volunteering with his nonprofit called artists for New 2386 02:30:53,339 --> 02:30:58,379 South Africa since I was 12. And it was, you know, I was inspired 2387 02:30:58,379 --> 02:31:02,069 by so many people. I mean, my mom is an activist. So I come 2388 02:31:02,069 --> 02:31:05,249 from that spirit, there was going to be no other option, but 2389 02:31:05,249 --> 02:31:10,109 to be active in my family, right. But watching my village, 2390 02:31:10,109 --> 02:31:12,449 you know, I had this village of mentors who were artists and 2391 02:31:12,449 --> 02:31:15,689 activists like Samuel L. Jackson and Alfre Woodard, and Blair 2392 02:31:15,689 --> 02:31:18,059 Underwood, and LaTanya Richardson, you know, these 2393 02:31:18,059 --> 02:31:22,739 people who, you know, were as active in front of the cameras, 2394 02:31:22,769 --> 02:31:26,039 they were off, you know, and were really able to use their 2395 02:31:26,039 --> 02:31:30,779 platform in any way they could to be changemakers. And so I was 2396 02:31:30,779 --> 02:31:34,919 their youngest board member, and they were taking a delegation 2397 02:31:34,979 --> 02:31:38,459 of, you know, them and a bunch of other folks were going to 2398 02:31:38,459 --> 02:31:41,459 South Africa to build some wells in some of the townships and, 2399 02:31:41,759 --> 02:31:47,309 you know, just do more on the ground work. And how was broke? 2400 02:31:47,309 --> 02:31:51,269 I mean, there was no chance in hell, my broke ass, you know, I 2401 02:31:51,269 --> 02:31:55,409 was gonna be able to go, you know, like, my family. We grew 2402 02:31:55,409 --> 02:31:58,679 up so hard, okay, like, you don't matter if we were on TV or 2403 02:31:58,679 --> 02:32:02,069 not like we have real real poverty issues. 2404 02:32:02,130 --> 02:32:05,820 All right. All right. All right. Couple things. One, she sounds 2405 02:32:05,820 --> 02:32:12,300 just like Camela. That last bit there this replay this last 2406 02:32:12,300 --> 02:32:16,050 couple of seconds here, groundwork? In fact, it's when 2407 02:32:16,050 --> 02:32:21,840 she code switches when she when she goes, You know, I'm tired. 2408 02:32:23,400 --> 02:32:28,980 And I was broke. I mean, no chance in hell, my broke ass, 2409 02:32:29,040 --> 02:32:35,160 you know, was gonna be able to go. Okay, like, 2410 02:32:36,630 --> 02:32:39,840 okay, that's one, two, when you're doing work in South 2411 02:32:39,840 --> 02:32:42,000 Africa, the people who were suppressed in South Africa, the 2412 02:32:42,000 --> 02:32:44,130 white people, so I'm not sure who she's helping. 2413 02:32:45,720 --> 02:32:51,090 There's this, this small thing? Well, we got to go back. We got 2414 02:32:51,090 --> 02:32:54,510 it. Was it? What's the thing called Race? Something? Was the 2415 02:32:55,410 --> 02:33:00,090 reconciliation and in South Africa? Yeah. What's the thing 2416 02:33:00,090 --> 02:33:02,940 called? I'm racing reconciliate reconciliation or something like 2417 02:33:02,940 --> 02:33:03,780 that? Oh, they took 2418 02:33:03,780 --> 02:33:06,930 away the white farmers farms. 2419 02:33:07,439 --> 02:33:14,189 Hello. That's what they want to do here. Yeah, that's the 2420 02:33:14,189 --> 02:33:17,789 groundwork. That's the groundwork. We put us in Wales 2421 02:33:17,789 --> 02:33:22,499 and some other groundwork, you know. Yeah. That's what that's 2422 02:33:22,529 --> 02:33:25,859 that's where they go to do these tests runs it to come back with 2423 02:33:25,859 --> 02:33:32,909 the, the communist ideas that they have, um, and run them 2424 02:33:32,909 --> 02:33:37,289 here. And with that said, let's go ahead and get into doo doo 2425 02:33:37,289 --> 02:33:42,809 doo doo doo. Okay, speaking of communist, okay, now, I gotta 2426 02:33:42,809 --> 02:33:47,099 set this clip up. Right. So Jurnee Smollett, played in this 2427 02:33:47,099 --> 02:33:51,959 movie, called The Great Debaters with Denzel Washington and 2428 02:33:52,499 --> 02:33:56,339 Forrest Whitaker, it I think was produced or either funded by 2429 02:33:56,339 --> 02:34:02,339 Oprah. Um, and it's about this, um, the black debate team at 2430 02:34:02,339 --> 02:34:11,099 this rule. HBCU and Dinsdale places kind of a change agent. 2431 02:34:11,729 --> 02:34:14,849 And I'll let him explain his role more but let's not think I 2432 02:34:14,849 --> 02:34:17,459 set it up well, so let's go ahead and get into the Great 2433 02:34:17,459 --> 02:34:24,179 Debaters clip. Jesus was a radical octapharma gratulations 2434 02:34:24,179 --> 02:34:26,339 No, thank you. You have put us on the map. 2435 02:34:26,369 --> 02:34:29,639 Well, the sun is doing a great job. His research is impeccable. 2436 02:34:30,239 --> 02:34:33,389 That's good to hear. God. Listen. 2437 02:34:34,320 --> 02:34:38,190 There are people around town one very happy with off campus 2438 02:34:38,190 --> 02:34:43,440 activities. Calling your wreck the fact that wouldn't be a bit 2439 02:34:43,440 --> 02:34:46,830 surprised to find out a morning when I woke up and she was 2440 02:34:46,830 --> 02:34:47,730 strung up to tree 2441 02:34:47,820 --> 02:34:52,620 I'd have to catch me first. is serious. They're serious. A 2442 02:34:52,620 --> 02:34:57,300 hungry Negro steals a chicken he goes to jail. A rich businessman 2443 02:34:57,300 --> 02:34:59,940 steals bonds he goes to Congress. I think that's wrong. 2444 02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:03,270 That makes me a radical, a socialist, a communist. 2445 02:35:03,300 --> 02:35:07,830 So Jesus was a radical, careful. Yes, he was just was a radical 2446 02:35:08,070 --> 02:35:10,470 middle institutions are filled with people who have confused 2447 02:35:10,470 --> 02:35:15,900 themselves with Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ now. You know what 2448 02:35:15,900 --> 02:35:20,820 words do okay? Come on now. Amen. Not confused, I'm 2449 02:35:20,820 --> 02:35:23,430 convinced. I'm not. 2450 02:35:24,300 --> 02:35:25,110 I'm not judging you. 2451 02:35:26,430 --> 02:35:29,310 I'm just concerned about your methods. 2452 02:35:30,180 --> 02:35:32,730 I haven't seen this movie. And now I do not want to see 2453 02:35:32,730 --> 02:35:37,080 it. So now you hear the politics infiltrating the art. Oh, yeah. 2454 02:35:37,080 --> 02:35:40,500 And once again, this was, I believe, produced by Oprah 2455 02:35:41,700 --> 02:35:46,170 starring Johnny Smollett. And to bring Oprah back into it, I had 2456 02:35:46,170 --> 02:35:49,620 to go back. But let's go back to clip number 16. Probably because 2457 02:35:49,620 --> 02:35:52,800 you're flat footed. And listen to me the last 30 seconds. 2458 02:35:53,430 --> 02:35:56,700 Because what he's being accused of, let me just by you looking 2459 02:35:56,700 --> 02:35:59,700 for that clip guys playing I'm good. Okay, let me explain. 2460 02:35:59,790 --> 02:36:03,690 explain to you why I'm bringing this up. Dimmesdale was a 2461 02:36:04,770 --> 02:36:08,910 professor. But at the same time, he was having these meetings at 2462 02:36:08,910 --> 02:36:14,190 night with the farmers trying to get them to unionize. And, um, 2463 02:36:14,220 --> 02:36:17,790 you know, basically communist ideas, right, for right or 2464 02:36:17,790 --> 02:36:21,150 wrong. I mean, however you want to look at it. But let's go back 2465 02:36:21,150 --> 02:36:24,660 and play and I think maybe last 30 seconds or 16. And you see 2466 02:36:24,660 --> 02:36:25,530 where I'm going with this? 2467 02:36:26,010 --> 02:36:28,980 And because he was doing that, the plantation owners the back, 2468 02:36:29,310 --> 02:36:29,670 the back 2469 02:36:29,790 --> 02:36:31,800 or the back? Yeah, just a little bit. 2470 02:36:32,880 --> 02:36:36,090 Its own story. Yes, that's right. This was a minister, 2471 02:36:36,120 --> 02:36:40,500 Reverend ta Allen, who began talking to sharecroppers about 2472 02:36:40,500 --> 02:36:43,590 their rights. And because he was doing that the plantation 2473 02:36:43,590 --> 02:36:47,430 owners, the landowners got together and they, they lynched 2474 02:36:47,430 --> 02:36:51,000 him. And the proof they use that he was somebody worthy of 2475 02:36:51,000 --> 02:36:55,080 lynching is that when they found his body, he had a piece of 2476 02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:58,440 paper that talked about sharecropper rights. And the 2477 02:36:58,440 --> 02:37:01,440 other piece of paper he had in a suit jacket was a note that 2478 02:37:01,440 --> 02:37:05,220 said, every man a king, lot of these folks, were lynched 2479 02:37:05,220 --> 02:37:09,060 because they showed too much dignity. They showed too much 2480 02:37:09,060 --> 02:37:13,710 humanity. He just wanted to be respected as a human being. And 2481 02:37:13,710 --> 02:37:14,460 they got him hang 2482 02:37:17,010 --> 02:37:18,120 every man a king. 2483 02:37:18,750 --> 02:37:23,100 Yeah, but no, but he was he was actually lynched. Yeah, for 2484 02:37:23,100 --> 02:37:28,170 trying to unionize, organize the, the farmers in the south, 2485 02:37:28,710 --> 02:37:32,070 which den Zales character in The Great Debaters with doing the 2486 02:37:32,070 --> 02:37:34,350 same thing? And he does why he says you can call me a 2487 02:37:34,350 --> 02:37:37,650 socialist, a communist whatever, right? Jesus, Jesus Christ was a 2488 02:37:37,650 --> 02:37:41,910 radical. So they're basically to plan this out, which takes us 2489 02:37:41,910 --> 02:37:46,890 back to show 43. And how communism brought rat racial 2490 02:37:46,890 --> 02:37:48,210 equality to the south. 2491 02:37:48,390 --> 02:37:51,660 How did you get interested in this topic? And as I mentioned, 2492 02:37:51,660 --> 02:37:55,140 it is a sensitive topic, because there are those for decades 2493 02:37:55,140 --> 02:37:58,770 who've worked to tamp down the suggestion that anybody in the 2494 02:37:58,770 --> 02:38:01,200 civil rights movement was attracted to the Communist Party 2495 02:38:01,260 --> 02:38:01,770 at all. 2496 02:38:02,130 --> 02:38:05,160 Exactly. And this is a story that actually predates the civil 2497 02:38:05,160 --> 02:38:09,450 rights movement as we know it. Going back to the 1930s. I 2498 02:38:09,450 --> 02:38:13,770 became interested in this as a doctoral dissertation back in 2499 02:38:13,770 --> 02:38:17,850 the mid 80s, when I was very active in a lot of social 2500 02:38:17,850 --> 02:38:23,970 movements in the LA area. And I wanted to know how the communist 2501 02:38:23,970 --> 02:38:27,960 party organized African Americans, particularly in 2502 02:38:28,200 --> 02:38:32,220 places where black people were the majority. And there I 2503 02:38:32,220 --> 02:38:35,730 discovered a very vibrant movement that very few people 2504 02:38:35,730 --> 02:38:39,990 wrote about the basic were two stories, one memoir by a man 2505 02:38:39,990 --> 02:38:43,410 named Jose Hudson. And then another story in a book called 2506 02:38:43,410 --> 02:38:46,440 all God's dangers, which is about him, an African American 2507 02:38:46,440 --> 02:38:47,190 sharecropper, 2508 02:38:47,970 --> 02:38:49,320 ages, the life of Nate Shaw, I 2509 02:38:49,320 --> 02:38:53,130 remember that exactly, but his real name was Ned Cobb. Michelle 2510 02:38:53,130 --> 02:38:56,310 was a pseudonym. And it's a beautiful book that tells his 2511 02:38:56,310 --> 02:39:00,810 life story, only a portion of it deals with his membership in the 2512 02:39:00,810 --> 02:39:04,140 communist led sharecroppers union, which at one point, had 2513 02:39:04,140 --> 02:39:09,510 about 12,000 members in the black belt counties of Alabama, 2514 02:39:09,570 --> 02:39:13,770 and we're all the members black. Well, in Alabama, there was a 2515 02:39:13,770 --> 02:39:17,760 point when basically all the members except one were all 2516 02:39:17,760 --> 02:39:20,670 African American sharecroppers, and tenant farmers. 2517 02:39:21,570 --> 02:39:25,020 I remember this, I remember this episode now. And it's like, 2518 02:39:25,530 --> 02:39:27,360 because it was I think we probably talked about this 2519 02:39:27,360 --> 02:39:32,010 during the BLM riots. Yes, maybe around that time and to learn 2520 02:39:32,010 --> 02:39:36,390 that the communist message was was used to organize blacks in 2521 02:39:36,390 --> 02:39:40,320 the South. And the same communist message is organizing 2522 02:39:40,320 --> 02:39:43,440 the Black Lives, Black Lives Matter movement, the political 2523 02:39:43,440 --> 02:39:48,090 movement, just that's just, you know, like, how long have they 2524 02:39:48,120 --> 02:39:49,470 been putting all this stuff together? 2525 02:39:50,700 --> 02:39:53,100 It never stops. Doesn't it? Just keep on 2526 02:39:53,100 --> 02:39:56,340 building building blocks, building blocks, maybe this time 2527 02:39:56,340 --> 02:39:56,910 it'll work. 2528 02:39:57,300 --> 02:40:00,810 They get knocked down, they go back they read forest and 2529 02:40:00,810 --> 02:40:03,870 reformulate the plant and they come back again. Now that's the 2530 02:40:03,870 --> 02:40:06,930 whole point. And for this movie to be made, I think the Great 2531 02:40:06,930 --> 02:40:10,530 Debaters are maybe 2015. If I'm not mistaken, somewhere around 2532 02:40:10,530 --> 02:40:11,220 in there, it was 2533 02:40:12,450 --> 02:40:14,730 early to mid 2007, 2534 02:40:15,180 --> 02:40:20,700 excuse me, it was early in, in pre Obama, four, for them to 2535 02:40:20,700 --> 02:40:23,100 come out openly. And they say that line, you can call me a 2536 02:40:23,100 --> 02:40:29,160 communist, or a socialist. That was a that was a whole big deal, 2537 02:40:29,160 --> 02:40:34,080 because as you heard in the last clip, associated with communism 2538 02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:37,950 was a very sociate, the civil rights movement with communism 2539 02:40:37,950 --> 02:40:41,010 was very standoffish. But the 2540 02:40:41,940 --> 02:40:46,170 the timing works quite well, actually. Now, yeah. Could this 2541 02:40:46,170 --> 02:40:48,780 not have been some predictive programming getting everybody 2542 02:40:48,780 --> 02:40:52,470 ready for the community organizer to come in? In 2008? 2543 02:40:52,950 --> 02:40:56,580 Exactly. So you're gonna hear things like, just to add to your 2544 02:40:56,580 --> 02:40:59,160 points, as you added, I'm open or home, you're gonna hear 2545 02:40:59,160 --> 02:41:02,370 anything about this guy and him having social ties, socialist 2546 02:41:02,370 --> 02:41:06,180 ties, or communist ideas, but you know, what, you know, it 2547 02:41:06,180 --> 02:41:09,240 was, you know, their civil rights move is really based in 2548 02:41:09,240 --> 02:41:13,200 communism, if you look, it was it was a changing of the times. 2549 02:41:13,410 --> 02:41:18,360 And this is the same thing now of a session is changing of the 2550 02:41:18,360 --> 02:41:23,100 times of what we're saying here. So, yeah, so I just wanted to 2551 02:41:23,100 --> 02:41:27,510 point that out. That was the Oprah once again, she set this 2552 02:41:27,510 --> 02:41:30,930 whole thing up for commodities she had the lynching she had the 2553 02:41:30,930 --> 02:41:33,480 meeting was wrapped up and you're saying nice little bow on 2554 02:41:33,480 --> 02:41:38,640 it. All. All Kamal had to do was hit her spots and hit her lines 2555 02:41:38,670 --> 02:41:38,970 and she 2556 02:41:39,540 --> 02:41:42,630 literally could could not didn't know her lines and couldn't stop 2557 02:41:42,630 --> 02:41:45,780 bumping into the furniture. The two rules you need to know as an 2558 02:41:45,780 --> 02:41:46,290 actor. 2559 02:41:46,890 --> 02:41:49,860 Yeah. Just let it soak in it. Joe Biden is a better 2560 02:41:49,860 --> 02:41:54,150 presidential candidate in a hurry. Yeah. That's all you need 2561 02:41:54,150 --> 02:41:56,910 to know about. You're saying who they were trying to drag across 2562 02:41:56,910 --> 02:42:01,800 the finish line. So with that said, we heard Tim and chin 2563 02:42:01,830 --> 02:42:03,480 bring up count on Cuomo. 2564 02:42:03,510 --> 02:42:06,960 Yes, this is a good little piece that never got highlighted, of 2565 02:42:06,960 --> 02:42:08,460 course. 29 2566 02:42:08,580 --> 02:42:12,180 It's been almost a month since New York Governor Andrew Cuomo 2567 02:42:12,180 --> 02:42:16,170 announced he would resign after a report by the State Attorney 2568 02:42:16,170 --> 02:42:19,710 General's Office found he sexually harassed multiple 2569 02:42:19,710 --> 02:42:24,750 women. Since then, a cascade of firings and resignations have 2570 02:42:24,750 --> 02:42:28,290 brought down leaders of the women's movement caught in Comos 2571 02:42:28,320 --> 02:42:33,060 orbit. On Monday, Alfonso David was fired as president of the 2572 02:42:33,060 --> 02:42:37,230 Human Rights Campaign that follows resignations by Tina 2573 02:42:37,230 --> 02:42:41,940 Chen, the chief executive at times up an organization focused 2574 02:42:41,940 --> 02:42:45,450 on supporting women in the workplace, along with Roberta 2575 02:42:45,450 --> 02:42:49,830 Kaplan at the times up Legal Defense Fund, and a number of 2576 02:42:49,830 --> 02:42:53,700 the group's board members all laughed after revelation that 2577 02:42:53,700 --> 02:42:57,090 they had advised Kormos team on how to respond to the 2578 02:42:57,090 --> 02:43:00,480 allegations. The news raises questions about the progress of 2579 02:43:00,480 --> 02:43:04,740 the me to movement and where to go from here nearly four years 2580 02:43:04,740 --> 02:43:08,580 after the hashtag went viral in 2017. 2581 02:43:08,820 --> 02:43:12,060 Wow, that's right I didn't know about this. Yeah, we're too busy 2582 02:43:12,060 --> 02:43:15,240 with you know the the COVID people dying business but yeah. 2583 02:43:15,750 --> 02:43:20,310 Oh my goodness, a complete front organization to actually protect 2584 02:43:20,340 --> 02:43:22,020 protect the assholes. 2585 02:43:22,230 --> 02:43:28,590 And we saw this with Lisa Bloom glory already already Queens 2586 02:43:28,620 --> 02:43:33,390 daughter where her mom was running the Bill Cosby women's 2587 02:43:34,830 --> 02:43:39,240 movement, Operation operation getting that team together. 2588 02:43:39,360 --> 02:43:42,540 While on the back side she was given hobby one when I say she 2589 02:43:42,540 --> 02:43:48,780 I'm talking about Lisa Bloom giving give your rich daughter 2590 02:43:48,990 --> 02:43:53,190 at least a bloom was giving Weinstein advice in the back in 2591 02:43:53,280 --> 02:43:58,170 so this is my issue with the whole situation that it was on 2592 02:43:58,170 --> 02:44:01,950 the face value. You can say okay, I'm all for it. But it's 2593 02:44:01,980 --> 02:44:07,230 always a scam. It's always it's always gonna come in hijack. You 2594 02:44:07,230 --> 02:44:07,680 know, I see 2595 02:44:07,680 --> 02:44:10,800 it differently. I see it differently. The wheels were 2596 02:44:10,800 --> 02:44:14,940 coming off the party train, and they needed to have a counter 2597 02:44:14,940 --> 02:44:18,240 vehicle. These people were advising people these are 2598 02:44:18,240 --> 02:44:22,830 lawyers. This is a lawyer Legal Defense Fund. It's a it's under 2599 02:44:22,830 --> 02:44:27,630 the Women's Law Center. They were advising the actual 2600 02:44:27,630 --> 02:44:32,760 predators. That's why this group exists. It's It wasn't even to 2601 02:44:32,760 --> 02:44:37,230 hijack it. It was to hijack it was to protect and defend 2602 02:44:38,250 --> 02:44:42,060 it. That's my point to hijack it to protect and defend like this 2603 02:44:42,060 --> 02:44:44,460 means two things. There's something in the wild that you 2604 02:44:44,460 --> 02:44:48,180 can't control. Yeah, no, no, no, we got to get on the same thing 2605 02:44:48,180 --> 02:44:51,390 with a DOS. Yeah, no, no, we can't have a DOS out here 2606 02:44:51,390 --> 02:44:54,300 floating around or foundational blacks. We can't have that 2607 02:44:54,300 --> 02:44:57,090 floating around in the wild. We need black lives matter. So what 2608 02:44:57,090 --> 02:45:01,050 do you do you call them box? Yeah, um, And then you bring in 2609 02:45:01,050 --> 02:45:03,510 black lives matter because they have the greater works that 2610 02:45:03,510 --> 02:45:06,360 they're working on here. And nothing is standing in the way 2611 02:45:06,390 --> 02:45:13,530 even you know, even if it's Loki noble. So But Tina chin just 2612 02:45:13,530 --> 02:45:15,180 says, You know what? It's a blind spot? 2613 02:45:15,210 --> 02:45:19,170 Oh, yes, of course, an office that wanted to do the right 2614 02:45:19,170 --> 02:45:23,430 thing in responding to, you know, survivors coming forward, 2615 02:45:23,460 --> 02:45:28,590 they wanted to do the very opposite, which was to go after 2616 02:45:28,590 --> 02:45:32,280 survivors to try to denigrate their stories to try to put a 2617 02:45:32,280 --> 02:45:37,170 lid on this. That is the entire opposite of what I thought it 2618 02:45:37,170 --> 02:45:41,250 was dealing with and why I would have actually ever even offered 2619 02:45:41,280 --> 02:45:46,620 advice in that circumstance. And I would you know, also say what 2620 02:45:46,620 --> 02:45:49,470 I think is revealed in The New York Attorney General's report 2621 02:45:49,470 --> 02:45:54,510 is apparently we were being used as cover right we were being 2622 02:45:54,510 --> 02:45:58,620 used to say times up is you know, is is working with us on 2623 02:45:58,620 --> 02:46:00,210 this, which we never were. 2624 02:46:00,660 --> 02:46:07,320 Wow, like she didn't know that. Oh, wow. Oh, man. What a phony. 2625 02:46:07,770 --> 02:46:11,100 She's just a dumb lady. You know, just I was used, 2626 02:46:11,190 --> 02:46:15,780 oh, the abusers abuse by the abuse ease and that was abused 2627 02:46:15,780 --> 02:46:16,110 to 2628 02:46:17,490 --> 02:46:20,610 another victim of Cuomo. That's all that's all it is, of course. 2629 02:46:21,270 --> 02:46:25,200 So that's why not just be self important. But these 2630 02:46:25,200 --> 02:46:29,610 conversations, peel back the layers off of you here. Jussie 2631 02:46:29,610 --> 02:46:33,060 Smollett, you think you know what's going on but there's so 2632 02:46:33,060 --> 02:46:37,830 many missing moving pieces. There's propping him up and 2633 02:46:37,830 --> 02:46:40,620 other side knows that they know that okay, we keep the attack on 2634 02:46:40,620 --> 02:46:45,480 Jesse. We keep doing story of the soil sisters. in play. We 2635 02:46:45,480 --> 02:46:48,420 keep all you know, like I said they even they said it was about 2636 02:46:48,420 --> 02:46:51,150 more about Kim Fox and Jussie Smollett, but it's more about 2637 02:46:51,150 --> 02:46:53,340 these days and the power they have and the division has 2638 02:46:53,340 --> 02:46:57,660 happened between the law and order. Yeah, yeah. forcement. So 2639 02:46:57,660 --> 02:47:01,110 both sides understand this. So very interesting. So this is why 2640 02:47:01,110 --> 02:47:04,080 it's important that people continue to support the show. 2641 02:47:04,920 --> 02:47:09,090 Yes. And what we love most is the new support you can bring us 2642 02:47:09,120 --> 02:47:12,990 the new ways the new podcast apps with streaming Satoshis 2643 02:47:13,020 --> 02:47:13,560 like brand 2644 02:47:13,560 --> 02:47:15,720 new money. I just I don't want any money around me. It's not 2645 02:47:17,310 --> 02:47:20,910 I'd almost rather have a new one that our brand than an old 20 2646 02:47:21,750 --> 02:47:24,450 That's kind of dumb and but there's some new money that 2647 02:47:24,450 --> 02:47:30,390 excites you. You like $100 bills. Money to Oh, most 2648 02:47:30,390 --> 02:47:32,820 beautiful thing on earth is $100. Bill. I haven't seen a 2649 02:47:32,820 --> 02:47:36,660 woman as good looking as $100 bill on our buildings. 2650 02:47:39,420 --> 02:47:43,530 I get excited by the Satoshis. Yes. Thanking the rest of our 2651 02:47:43,530 --> 02:47:48,090 producers for episode 73 Tyler Boyd $45 goggles on. You taught 2652 02:47:48,090 --> 02:47:51,960 us well. He says Shawn Murnane Happy Birthday mo love the show 2653 02:47:51,960 --> 02:47:59,160 and love disagreeing. Shawn comes in with another 41 we 2654 02:47:59,160 --> 02:48:03,090 should we should pump Shawn up yeah, I'm gonna make an oops 2655 02:48:03,120 --> 02:48:06,570 make a note of that here. In a second. Yeah, we're gonna bump 2656 02:48:06,570 --> 02:48:09,660 you up to Associate Executive Producer Sean. Thank you Sam 2657 02:48:09,660 --> 02:48:14,550 smocks. How about to mow karma for all the mid 2000 Nextel 2658 02:48:14,550 --> 02:48:15,420 choppers yeah 2659 02:48:18,510 --> 02:48:19,380 you've got 2660 02:48:23,550 --> 02:48:27,630 Brian tan I'm 3333 called out the other John Taylor as a 2661 02:48:27,630 --> 02:48:28,800 deadbeat. Oh no. 2662 02:48:29,310 --> 02:48:31,620 No your dad beat 2663 02:48:31,650 --> 02:48:35,310 Jason Babcock 3333 Thanks for a great year of insights into the 2664 02:48:35,310 --> 02:48:38,670 crazy world we live in keep up the terrific sorry 2665 02:48:39,450 --> 02:48:40,140 I'm sorry but 2666 02:48:42,570 --> 02:48:45,570 keep up the terrific work Merry Christmas Happy New Year please 2667 02:48:45,570 --> 02:48:48,150 D dead beat me with some mo karma. 2668 02:48:50,160 --> 02:48:54,690 Congratulation, you're no longer dead 2669 02:48:55,500 --> 02:48:56,310 you've got 2670 02:49:02,700 --> 02:49:05,100 two points I want to make one I don't think you really didn't 2671 02:49:05,100 --> 02:49:09,690 really understand how big the next thing was. And two is that 2672 02:49:09,690 --> 02:49:13,380 the first call out we have in show history. I know we have 2673 02:49:13,380 --> 02:49:17,760 nudges like between Tiger auntie and Judi s and those people but 2674 02:49:17,760 --> 02:49:22,440 is that the first hard body deadbeat call out? I don't 2675 02:49:22,440 --> 02:49:23,520 remember one I think 2676 02:49:24,780 --> 02:49:31,200 I think it's it's the only one I can remember. Though that is an 2677 02:49:31,770 --> 02:49:34,320 interesting you say that because I'm like, Oh man, I'm glad 2678 02:49:34,320 --> 02:49:36,630 someone called someone as a deadbeat and more people will do 2679 02:49:36,630 --> 02:49:39,240 it now. So it probably was the first time 2680 02:49:40,710 --> 02:49:44,400 you made may history Brian. We welcome nudges as well but the 2681 02:49:44,400 --> 02:49:47,850 hard body call out you want to be three people. Now I'm Emily. 2682 02:49:47,970 --> 02:49:52,440 Producer, our database right? Choose your lot in life. Hey, 2683 02:49:53,610 --> 02:49:57,540 I was in the Netherlands when the Nextel system was in place. 2684 02:49:57,600 --> 02:50:01,440 I wasn't living here. That's why you're right. I don't have the I 2685 02:50:01,440 --> 02:50:05,370 can't get the full grab gravitas of the of the Nextel Chirp 2686 02:50:07,500 --> 02:50:09,630 is real. y'all believe it? 2687 02:50:10,560 --> 02:50:13,980 Oh, this chef Elvis Rosenberg $30 tighten my belt after the 2688 02:50:13,980 --> 02:50:16,740 new year. Well, we appreciate what you bring in us their value 2689 02:50:16,740 --> 02:50:20,910 is value no matter what sv $25 Hey Mo and Adam, have you ever 2690 02:50:20,910 --> 02:50:24,870 considered taking a deep dive into sneaker culture? Lots of 2691 02:50:24,870 --> 02:50:28,590 ties to previous topics touched on like Nike, China, NBA Kanye, 2692 02:50:28,590 --> 02:50:31,170 etc. Just seems like there's something more to it. Merry 2693 02:50:31,170 --> 02:50:35,160 Christmas, y'all. To Scott v. Well, I can tell you knowing my 2694 02:50:35,160 --> 02:50:40,260 friend mo he has this plan for episode 132 which will hit in 2695 02:50:40,260 --> 02:50:43,170 about two years from now. Am I right? 2696 02:50:45,600 --> 02:50:46,650 Give one or two shows. 2697 02:50:48,930 --> 02:50:52,410 I mean, I know that he had this show planned back when we were 2698 02:50:52,410 --> 02:50:57,000 doing that number 48 with the communists is crazy. And you've 2699 02:50:57,000 --> 02:51:01,110 got all mouse jockeys. He's got a whole map on his wall with 2700 02:51:01,110 --> 02:51:04,200 like, you know, the yarn and the pans, the push pins and then 2701 02:51:04,200 --> 02:51:07,110 we're gonna go to connect to this show, but that show it's 2702 02:51:07,950 --> 02:51:14,220 genius. And i ja $25 asking for some mo karma happy to hand that 2703 02:51:14,220 --> 02:51:23,940 out to you. Oh Nyjah Thank you. Wait, am I 2704 02:51:24,300 --> 02:51:27,060 looking No, she's she's very heavy on the social media, 2705 02:51:27,420 --> 02:51:32,370 Twitter and Instagram so I appreciate her. Always nice to 2706 02:51:32,370 --> 02:51:32,610 show 2707 02:51:32,640 --> 02:51:36,390 good gave Grider 2091 Thank you for your courage mo your show 2708 02:51:36,390 --> 02:51:40,500 was found a home with my podcast favorites no agenda school sucks 2709 02:51:40,500 --> 02:51:43,950 Grand Theft world you're welcome and unregistered game with FEMA 2710 02:51:43,950 --> 02:51:46,770 Region number seven Thank you gave value always appreciated. 2711 02:51:47,070 --> 02:51:50,400 Cassidy Eastwood $20 Thank you both for your hard work and been 2712 02:51:50,400 --> 02:51:53,460 an ame MO You are my brothers through Christ and your family 2713 02:51:53,460 --> 02:51:56,970 and future are in my prayers. 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Yeah, yeah, that finally got 2731 02:53:14,670 --> 02:53:17,790 that together too. And then we have some special mentions for 2732 02:53:17,820 --> 02:53:22,140 us a massive value that has been coming to to the show. You want 2733 02:53:22,140 --> 02:53:22,890 to talk about these 2734 02:53:22,920 --> 02:53:28,350 four producers? Yes, for we do that. At one one thing I need to 2735 02:53:28,350 --> 02:53:31,260 do. We need to remove the albatross around Jeffrey 2736 02:53:31,260 --> 02:53:34,980 Phillips neck. Please be dead beat him. Because I don't want 2737 02:53:34,980 --> 02:53:36,540 him to walk with that burden. 2738 02:53:37,350 --> 02:53:39,060 I'm sorry. Yes, very important 2739 02:53:39,060 --> 02:53:43,590 graduation. You're no longer a dead good 2740 02:53:43,590 --> 02:53:44,640 catch. Good catch. I 2741 02:53:45,180 --> 02:53:47,520 appreciate you. I don't want to say you everybody wants to clear 2742 02:53:47,520 --> 02:53:47,730 it. I 2743 02:53:47,730 --> 02:53:51,540 know I hear. Hey, you done the time. You know, it's like you're 2744 02:53:51,540 --> 02:53:52,140 good to go. 2745 02:53:52,410 --> 02:53:57,870 Right? A tiger Auntie Josh, Andrew and Roger roundy. They're 2746 02:53:57,870 --> 02:54:03,780 adding so much value. I have been not only just what they're 2747 02:54:03,780 --> 02:54:08,580 doing, but this has allowed me to stay busy. I can only imagine 2748 02:54:08,610 --> 02:54:13,980 if I had nothing to do in this time of my forced vacation. duty 2749 02:54:13,980 --> 02:54:19,260 to Me not accepting a vaccine to my life. I'm the I'm on phone 2750 02:54:19,260 --> 02:54:23,160 calls all day every day discussing secret projects we 2751 02:54:23,160 --> 02:54:26,310 got going which we'll be bringing to the light soon 2752 02:54:26,310 --> 02:54:31,050 enough but I appreciate every issue Tiger Auntie Josh Andrew 2753 02:54:31,050 --> 02:54:34,620 and Roger rowdy excuse me for the value that they're 2754 02:54:34,650 --> 02:54:37,860 contributing and other ways as well. So I want I want to stop 2755 02:54:37,860 --> 02:54:40,380 the show just to thank them tremendously. 2756 02:54:41,310 --> 02:54:45,150 Thank you to all producers for bringing your time your talent 2757 02:54:45,150 --> 02:54:51,810 and your treasure again, it is Mo facts.com moe fa ctz.com. You 2758 02:54:51,810 --> 02:54:55,440 can go direct visit donation page at mo fund me.com or use 2759 02:54:55,440 --> 02:54:58,470 one of the modern podcast apps a new podcast apps calm and thank 2760 02:54:58,470 --> 02:55:02,070 you this wouldn't happen Without you as obvious we need to 2761 02:55:02,070 --> 02:55:05,310 continue to receive support to keep it going. The future is a 2762 02:55:05,310 --> 02:55:08,880 bit uncertain, but we move forward with pleasure. 2763 02:55:12,120 --> 02:55:17,670 Alright, so we thought the third rail with them minimalizing our 2764 02:55:17,820 --> 02:55:21,330 trivializing lynching. Well, there's one person, there's 2765 02:55:21,330 --> 02:55:24,450 another third rail in the so called black community that you 2766 02:55:24,450 --> 02:55:28,770 don't play with. And that's to pop. Oh, and when Jesse called 2767 02:55:28,770 --> 02:55:32,430 himself the gay Tupac Yeah, that's when he jumped the shark. 2768 02:55:32,460 --> 02:55:38,580 And I don't know who's handling him. But take his phone away 2769 02:55:38,580 --> 02:55:39,510 from his Leelee 2770 02:55:39,510 --> 02:55:44,460 the same person who's handling Comala it has the same 2771 02:55:44,460 --> 02:55:47,430 instructions, just whatever it is just used to park they love 2772 02:55:47,430 --> 02:55:49,320 to park to park always works. 2773 02:55:49,560 --> 02:55:55,140 And that's why he makes the perfect mascot. Our records are 2774 02:55:55,140 --> 02:55:59,040 representative for this whole debacle of this 2020 campaign 2775 02:55:59,040 --> 02:56:03,060 for Kamala Harris because when he came out and said this, even 2776 02:56:03,060 --> 02:56:09,420 Charlemagne to God guard excuse me, had a panther veto. Right, I 2777 02:56:09,420 --> 02:56:12,300 have two takes I have one for when it first happened. And then 2778 02:56:12,300 --> 02:56:15,720 he goes back and does want a recent update. And like a few 2779 02:56:15,720 --> 02:56:19,650 months ago. So let's go ahead and get into number 32. First, 2780 02:56:19,650 --> 02:56:20,550 this is the first one 2781 02:56:20,610 --> 02:56:23,610 I have right now Jesse Smollett has performed after being 2782 02:56:23,610 --> 02:56:27,030 attacked. On Tuesday he performed on Saturday he said I 2783 02:56:27,030 --> 02:56:28,530 had to be here tonight check it out. 2784 02:56:28,560 --> 02:56:32,130 I went to the doctor immediately drove me I was not hospitalized. 2785 02:56:32,580 --> 02:56:35,850 Both my doctors in LA and Chicago community to perform to 2786 02:56:35,850 --> 02:56:37,890 take care obviously, and above all. 2787 02:56:43,350 --> 02:56:46,470 So this was in LA and he did address the incident in Chicago. 2788 02:56:46,470 --> 02:56:50,490 He told the crowd that he's okay. Investigating 2789 02:56:51,180 --> 02:56:54,420 know why justice lawyer doesn't want him to talk. Also want to 2790 02:56:54,420 --> 02:56:56,760 know why Jessie was reading those points that he made on the 2791 02:56:56,760 --> 02:56:59,460 stage off the paper. And I want to know what the hell Tupac got 2792 02:56:59,460 --> 02:57:01,740 to do with any of this. Okay, that seemed like a line straight 2793 02:57:01,740 --> 02:57:05,790 out of empire. I'm the gay Tupac. I mean, I get around 2794 02:57:05,790 --> 02:57:07,320 would have been a totally different record of Tupac was 2795 02:57:07,320 --> 02:57:14,730 gay by the way. Wow, do you want it chop your head up would have 2796 02:57:14,730 --> 02:57:15,810 been a totally different. 2797 02:57:17,160 --> 02:57:26,520 Same idea. But I'm glad I'm glad that Jesse Smollett. And I'm 2798 02:57:26,520 --> 02:57:30,510 glad that he went on stage and performed not letting this 2799 02:57:30,510 --> 02:57:31,830 incident hold him back. 2800 02:57:33,990 --> 02:57:40,140 So, so you can hear you don't play with two pots name? No, 2801 02:57:40,140 --> 02:57:43,470 that's why they invoke it the way they do because they know 2802 02:57:43,470 --> 02:57:51,540 there is a I don't think there's any fan base as loyal and 2803 02:57:51,540 --> 02:57:58,470 fervent as to pox fans across racial divides to generational 2804 02:57:58,470 --> 02:58:03,780 divides racial divides. I'm telling you and that two part 2805 02:58:03,780 --> 02:58:10,680 thing that is the rabbit hole of all rabbit holes that I don't 2806 02:58:10,680 --> 02:58:16,110 even feel qualified enough to to to venture down just yet because 2807 02:58:16,410 --> 02:58:20,550 Whoo, we got to have that thing. I mean, even to his death people 2808 02:58:20,550 --> 02:58:24,090 think to this day he's alive. Oh, yeah. I mean, so that lets 2809 02:58:24,090 --> 02:58:31,440 you know is is fascinating know that the fanned the fandom 2810 02:58:32,340 --> 02:58:36,810 around that and that thing, just he want to tap into that to say, 2811 02:58:36,810 --> 02:58:41,100 you know, I need fans like him. And you heard the fans reply 2812 02:58:41,100 --> 02:58:44,100 when he said it when he said, you know, saying I'm gonna gay 2813 02:58:44,100 --> 02:58:51,780 to pop up, right? They ate it up with spoons. So that was the 2814 02:58:51,780 --> 02:58:55,470 original Take anything you want to say before we get into the 2815 02:58:55,500 --> 02:58:59,910 No, no. No. So this is Charlemagne to God again. And 2816 02:58:59,910 --> 02:59:04,020 this is a few months ago speaking on Jesse Smollett being 2817 02:59:04,020 --> 02:59:04,770 the gay to pop 2818 02:59:04,890 --> 02:59:08,880 my guy, former empire star Jussie Smollett, aka the self 2819 02:59:08,880 --> 02:59:15,300 proclaimed gay to pocket. Gay Tupac is a great name because 2820 02:59:15,300 --> 02:59:20,850 just his career is as It's alive. It's two pockets. Wow. 2821 02:59:21,510 --> 02:59:25,020 Wow. It just depends what you believe he could be alive could 2822 02:59:25,020 --> 02:59:29,550 be alive. All right. Jesse is on trial for allegedly Jamal Lyon 2823 02:59:29,850 --> 02:59:33,150 about a hate crime attack in 2019. Okay, if convicted, he 2824 02:59:33,150 --> 02:59:34,260 could face up to three 2825 02:59:34,830 --> 02:59:38,760 for allegedly What did he say? Jamal Lyon. 2826 02:59:38,970 --> 02:59:43,650 Allegedly Jamal Jamal Lyon has his character on in PA okay. Let 2827 02:59:43,650 --> 02:59:47,370 me let me stop where we stopped here was very politicized, and 2828 02:59:47,370 --> 02:59:51,120 very demonizing a black man the way he was treated by his 2829 02:59:51,120 --> 02:59:54,150 father. I'll just leave it that but he was even in that show. He 2830 02:59:54,150 --> 02:59:55,350 was used as a political tool. 2831 02:59:58,350 --> 03:00:00,840 It just depends what you believe. It couldn't be alive it 2832 03:00:00,840 --> 03:00:05,010 could be alive. All right. Jesse is on trial for allegedly Jamal 2833 03:00:05,010 --> 03:00:09,120 Lyon about a hate crime attack in 2019 okay if convicted he 2834 03:00:09,120 --> 03:00:12,180 could face up to three years in prison and I'm calling bullshit 2835 03:00:12,180 --> 03:00:15,270 on net. Alright dropped the charges give him probation but 2836 03:00:15,270 --> 03:00:18,030 three years in prison. All right. This wasn't a hoax. Just 2837 03:00:18,030 --> 03:00:22,800 method acting gone wrong. Right. So what he told a little white 2838 03:00:22,800 --> 03:00:26,940 lie to the police who doesn't lie to the police. Y'all lie to 2839 03:00:26,940 --> 03:00:31,770 the police. All right. And I can hear some of y'all now. Well, he 2840 03:00:31,770 --> 03:00:34,470 didn't just lie to the police. He lied to the black community. 2841 03:00:34,470 --> 03:00:40,140 Maybe. But what? Don't lie to his community. Okay. Sometimes 2842 03:00:40,140 --> 03:00:42,540 we make up shit for entertainment purposes. Neither 2843 03:00:42,660 --> 03:00:46,560 do I make up shit all the time. All the time. Okay, but for 2844 03:00:46,560 --> 03:00:50,250 entertainment purposes. All right. Hey, Jesse. Gay Tupac. 2845 03:00:50,850 --> 03:00:54,180 Keep your head up. Now 2846 03:00:57,720 --> 03:01:01,680 Alright, so you heard the crowd? Yeah. You know that thing? Say 2847 03:01:01,680 --> 03:01:10,560 Is it too soon. 1996 is still too soon to make a two part dev 2848 03:01:10,560 --> 03:01:14,940 joke. Especially in the town that we live in where you know 2849 03:01:14,940 --> 03:01:18,810 people are not even worn it's still warm. And people make 2850 03:01:18,810 --> 03:01:22,560 jokes about him. But you don't you don't play with that to Pac 2851 03:01:22,560 --> 03:01:26,910 Man. So I just wanted to give that perspective of it yeah, um 2852 03:01:28,200 --> 03:01:31,740 but so we didn't we have to ask the question is just the smart 2853 03:01:31,740 --> 03:01:33,300 dismisses report. What are you doing? 2854 03:01:33,570 --> 03:01:41,070 Ah, man. All right. I know where this is going. Yet you did it 2855 03:01:41,070 --> 03:01:47,640 again. See? After 73 episodes now as I can see the end like I 2856 03:01:47,640 --> 03:01:50,760 can see it just before it gets hit in the face. You guys 2857 03:01:50,760 --> 03:01:54,300 haven't seen it yet. But because I remember episodes, episodes 2858 03:01:54,300 --> 03:01:59,010 episodes. Okay, I know what this is great. Man. Man. This brings 2859 03:01:59,010 --> 03:02:00,090 it full circle. 2860 03:02:01,020 --> 03:02:04,590 You smell it the gay two part question mark 34. 2861 03:02:05,580 --> 03:02:09,510 One morning, I'm pleased tonight to a phony shockers apartment 2862 03:02:09,630 --> 03:02:13,560 and arrested her. All the other members of her cell were also 2863 03:02:13,560 --> 03:02:17,550 arrested. They were charged with what the government said was a 2864 03:02:17,550 --> 03:02:21,600 giant plan to destroy those elements of society, which the 2865 03:02:21,600 --> 03:02:26,520 defendants call the power structure included attacking 2866 03:02:26,520 --> 03:02:29,790 police stations and planning to bomb five large department 2867 03:02:29,790 --> 03:02:34,890 stores and the Bronx botanical gardens. They became known as 2868 03:02:34,890 --> 03:02:40,050 the Panther 21. Their trial was held in a state of paranoia 2869 03:02:40,230 --> 03:02:44,850 about further attacks by the Panthers. Russo caused a 2870 03:02:44,850 --> 03:02:47,940 sensation when it was revealed that three of the founding 2871 03:02:47,940 --> 03:02:54,240 members of the group had been undercover police officers. What 2872 03:02:54,240 --> 03:02:57,930 was strange was that some of those officers seemed to have 2873 03:02:57,930 --> 03:03:01,080 been unaware that there were other undercover agents in the 2874 03:03:01,080 --> 03:03:07,230 South. Oh man, 2875 03:03:08,040 --> 03:03:13,560 two talks to Cox mom with a Black Panther was a black 2876 03:03:13,560 --> 03:03:19,770 panther. And so Wait a minute. Is there some some system that 2877 03:03:19,770 --> 03:03:26,460 takes radical parents and has them brainwash their kids into 2878 03:03:26,460 --> 03:03:30,030 becoming activists? I mean, Betty is a Betty shikar And mine 2879 03:03:30,030 --> 03:03:31,350 is that her first name Betty No. 2880 03:03:31,380 --> 03:03:32,820 Fany Athena cool. I 2881 03:03:32,820 --> 03:03:39,060 think Nisha couture, with Tupac. And then Jessie's mom, what was 2882 03:03:39,060 --> 03:03:39,540 her name? 2883 03:03:40,650 --> 03:03:46,320 Ah, what was her name? Once again. Anyway. Got the 2884 03:03:46,410 --> 03:03:52,080 same face. Same Panthers. Yes, same people, same Panthers, to 2885 03:03:52,080 --> 03:03:53,280 park to park. 2886 03:03:53,760 --> 03:03:58,320 Whoa, Mama's walking free. The same way as a finish of course 2887 03:03:58,320 --> 03:03:59,670 walking free. So 2888 03:04:00,060 --> 03:04:03,030 wait a minute. How does this work? Okay, well, we'll play the 2889 03:04:03,030 --> 03:04:04,380 next clip and I have some questions. 2890 03:04:07,530 --> 03:04:12,900 Yeah, the most active members of the group. We had to organize 2891 03:04:12,900 --> 03:04:15,360 everything. One of the undercover agents explained at 2892 03:04:15,360 --> 03:04:18,930 the trial, because everyone else in the group was off doing what 2893 03:04:18,930 --> 03:04:20,640 they called their own shit. 2894 03:04:30,780 --> 03:04:33,570 The prosecution claimed that the group had been inspired by 2895 03:04:33,570 --> 03:04:37,170 violent revolutionary propaganda. And in particular, 2896 03:04:37,440 --> 03:04:41,040 by the film The Battle of Algiers, made about the Algerian 2897 03:04:41,040 --> 03:04:47,100 struggle against French colonialism. To shoot the film 2898 03:04:47,100 --> 03:04:51,630 in the court, unlike all the other Panthers, a phony Shakur 2899 03:04:51,630 --> 03:04:55,770 chose to defend herself. And at the end of the trial, she cross 2900 03:04:55,770 --> 03:04:59,250 examined the leading undercover agent. He was the man she had 2901 03:04:59,250 --> 03:05:03,450 suspected from stopped, he had washed it down. His real name 2902 03:05:03,600 --> 03:05:07,860 was Ralph white. A journalist who was in the courtroom, wrote 2903 03:05:07,860 --> 03:05:13,050 a book that described what happened. She started by getting 2904 03:05:13,050 --> 03:05:16,650 white to admit that really most of the inspiration for the plots 2905 03:05:16,800 --> 03:05:20,910 came from the undercover agents. Not only have they continually 2906 03:05:20,910 --> 03:05:25,020 pushed for the violence, and suggested the targets, but they 2907 03:05:25,020 --> 03:05:28,260 had also arranged by the dynamite of yet another 2908 03:05:28,320 --> 03:05:32,790 undercover agent. They had also arranged for the cars to 2909 03:05:32,790 --> 03:05:37,080 transport the dynamite that really, the plot to attack 2910 03:05:37,080 --> 03:05:40,830 America had been created and driven by the American 2911 03:05:40,830 --> 03:05:41,520 authorities. 2912 03:05:41,550 --> 03:05:46,620 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It was a repeat an exact repeat the 2913 03:05:46,620 --> 03:05:50,610 American government, probably some former members, the Obamas 2914 03:05:50,790 --> 03:05:55,560 all these people. They set it all up. And they used to Jessie 2915 03:05:55,560 --> 03:06:03,420 and pivoted off of his mom's affiliation with Feeny. She 2916 03:06:03,420 --> 03:06:07,260 might even just be a wannabe. Oh, yeah. Black Panther. Oh, 2917 03:06:07,260 --> 03:06:10,380 good. I'll get my son to be like his son like her son. 2918 03:06:12,630 --> 03:06:17,880 Yeah, well, I mean, my other question is, as I said that the 2919 03:06:17,880 --> 03:06:23,520 the panels was full of agents, agents. Yes. Yeah. So how's 2920 03:06:23,520 --> 03:06:29,850 How's genetics my lead? Walking around free woman? Yeah. The 2921 03:06:29,850 --> 03:06:33,000 same way to finish your core now this store would have finished 2922 03:06:33,000 --> 03:06:35,490 the court now a lot of people don't get mad at me but at least 2923 03:06:35,490 --> 03:06:39,390 what it is eight month old me I see my eight month pregnant 2924 03:06:39,390 --> 03:06:45,600 woman going against the legal system. And she wins against I 2925 03:06:45,600 --> 03:06:50,100 think that's 150 some cases, Rico charges and a beat them 2926 03:06:50,100 --> 03:06:56,160 all. Yeah. Hoover me Hoover. I mean, Hoover could find so 2927 03:06:56,250 --> 03:07:00,540 anything to get you home. I mean, we're okay, fast forward 2928 03:07:00,540 --> 03:07:03,390 now. No, no, but what's the what's the biggest thing lied to 2929 03:07:03,390 --> 03:07:03,960 the FBI? 2930 03:07:04,019 --> 03:07:09,869 Right? Yeah. I gotta ask you a question though. Yes. Because 2931 03:07:09,869 --> 03:07:15,659 this does beg the question about Tupac. Oh, 2932 03:07:15,720 --> 03:07:18,570 you tried to get my phone to ring he refer 2933 03:07:18,960 --> 03:07:22,080 now but we don't obviously we don't have to get into it. But 2934 03:07:22,080 --> 03:07:24,210 it raises some significant questions. 2935 03:07:24,360 --> 03:07:27,720 I want to point out not because I'm afraid to broach the 2936 03:07:27,720 --> 03:07:32,400 subject. But I'm going to point back to the crowd when 2937 03:07:32,400 --> 03:07:37,860 Charlemagne to God made the hard made the to pop joke. Yeah. That 2938 03:07:37,890 --> 03:07:44,730 this is for real. I'm like yes, I've seen people fight. We've 2939 03:07:44,730 --> 03:07:49,830 seen whole Coast, East Coast West Coast beef. People that 2940 03:07:49,830 --> 03:07:54,960 didn't know to pop or Biggie threaten each other. shoot each 2941 03:07:54,960 --> 03:07:58,860 other all around surrounding to pop in there. Like I said that 2942 03:07:58,860 --> 03:08:03,750 two part rabbit hole. I went down and pre internet makers I 2943 03:08:03,750 --> 03:08:08,160 mean, me all the information. I want to say pre internet but the 2944 03:08:09,060 --> 03:08:13,440 early stages of the internet, that rabbit hole doesn't stop. 2945 03:08:14,130 --> 03:08:14,820 Right? Because 2946 03:08:15,690 --> 03:08:19,080 yeah, you may you may not want to go down and but but but the 2947 03:08:19,410 --> 03:08:25,860 question it asks is was to pox message the messages he was 2948 03:08:25,860 --> 03:08:29,250 giving? Was it Was he being nudged 2949 03:08:29,910 --> 03:08:34,920 it well say this is very fitting. When you look at the 2950 03:08:34,920 --> 03:08:37,230 crime bill that came in 1994 2951 03:08:37,260 --> 03:08:38,880 Oh my god. 2952 03:08:40,080 --> 03:08:42,240 If were fitting because two pocket 2953 03:08:42,630 --> 03:08:45,330 six, right, he was he was shot 96 2954 03:08:46,500 --> 03:08:51,210 He did this he did this pivot, um, that he was you know, the 2955 03:08:51,270 --> 03:08:57,360 Black Panther, you know, the No, radical revolutionary. Then he 2956 03:08:57,360 --> 03:09:02,010 went to a drug dealer a thug. Right. Right. What and the thing 2957 03:09:02,010 --> 03:09:07,050 was he was signed to Interscope pre death row. See, everybody 2958 03:09:07,050 --> 03:09:09,510 thinks he went to death row when when he got into trouble and 2959 03:09:09,510 --> 03:09:12,450 went to jail. And they got him out. No, no, he was signed to 2960 03:09:13,800 --> 03:09:17,850 Despereaux and me, excuse me. And what's the what's to do 2961 03:09:17,850 --> 03:09:25,710 guy's name is Jimmy IV. He was signed to him in 91. Corona, I'm 2962 03:09:25,710 --> 03:09:28,920 not afraid to broach that subject at all. But when you 2963 03:09:28,920 --> 03:09:32,880 open that can of worms, everything starts to destabilize 2964 03:09:33,660 --> 03:09:36,750 the whole you know, what was the plan with using Tupac and 2965 03:09:36,750 --> 03:09:39,060 Biggie? Yeah, what were you saying? What like, what was the 2966 03:09:39,090 --> 03:09:42,840 impact to the crime bill? Like, we took a guy like I was a Tupac 2967 03:09:42,840 --> 03:09:49,680 fan, pre death fro and I was kind of very um, I still liked 2968 03:09:49,680 --> 03:09:53,190 his music, but I was discouraged by the message change. It's like 2969 03:09:53,190 --> 03:09:56,310 one you're talking about your mom being crack theme and you 2970 03:09:56,310 --> 03:10:00,330 know, right. Drugs, everything on the community. Now you Moving 2971 03:10:00,330 --> 03:10:03,570 keys and you're saying and you as you're saying this shoot 2972 03:10:03,570 --> 03:10:08,010 other black people kind of thing and this, and I must say this to 2973 03:10:08,010 --> 03:10:12,120 pop, believe that he was the characters that he was playing 2974 03:10:12,120 --> 03:10:17,130 in movies. The same way maybe Jussie Smollett believe the 2975 03:10:17,130 --> 03:10:21,960 character that he was playing on Empire. So, Is he gay to pot? 2976 03:10:22,530 --> 03:10:25,020 Yes. And what? 2977 03:10:26,880 --> 03:10:30,360 Yeah, we even had to put the premises of gay to park in front 2978 03:10:30,360 --> 03:10:31,140 of to bow just, 2979 03:10:31,890 --> 03:10:33,120 yeah, well, 2980 03:10:33,240 --> 03:10:37,080 I'm just gonna leave it there. Because I'm gonna we're gonna 2981 03:10:37,080 --> 03:10:40,410 get a lot of fair letters on this one, but it is what it is. 2982 03:10:40,440 --> 03:10:44,070 Cuz we're gonna go pay attention to everything. And once they 2983 03:10:44,070 --> 03:10:47,820 everything. There's some damning information out here. 2984 03:10:49,560 --> 03:10:52,980 But what's interesting is being able to use this, as you say, I 2985 03:10:52,980 --> 03:10:56,280 mean, we're stuck in my mind is the crime bill. That because 2986 03:10:56,280 --> 03:10:59,790 usually when these things fail, the machine is still working to 2987 03:10:59,790 --> 03:11:03,780 the crime bill may still be coming. But maybe maybe the the 2988 03:11:03,780 --> 03:11:08,310 new version of the crime bill is billed back better. Because he 2989 03:11:08,310 --> 03:11:12,210 is that yeah, okay, maybe what am I saying? Yeah, but we don't 2990 03:11:12,210 --> 03:11:15,480 have so we had to we had to throw it over to black voting 2991 03:11:15,480 --> 03:11:20,220 rights. Because we don't have enough lynching shit out there. 2992 03:11:20,460 --> 03:11:24,510 Jesse failed. bill fails. They'll get pieces through I'm 2993 03:11:24,510 --> 03:11:29,550 sure But Pa. So that was the whole setup was camallo for 2994 03:11:29,550 --> 03:11:32,670 President we get the lynching shit going we get we get our 2995 03:11:32,670 --> 03:11:38,190 version of the crime bill, which is not locking up locking people 2996 03:11:38,220 --> 03:11:43,740 up yet first, we let everybody go. Then we come back later. 2997 03:11:43,740 --> 03:11:44,730 Round them all up. 2998 03:11:45,000 --> 03:11:47,490 Wait, no, no, not round him up. You're not gonna be locked out. 2999 03:11:47,490 --> 03:11:51,060 You're gonna be locked in. That's the difference. You're 3000 03:11:51,060 --> 03:11:53,280 gonna be locked in the comfort of your own home. We don't need 3001 03:11:53,280 --> 03:11:57,300 mass prisons anymore. It's good. Where's your papers? That kind 3002 03:11:57,300 --> 03:12:00,750 of thing. Right? Are you justified? I mean, now we got 3003 03:12:00,930 --> 03:12:03,780 Yeah, you're allowed to be on the street. Yep. Yep. We got the 3004 03:12:03,780 --> 03:12:07,770 QR codes. We got the passport. We got the papers, please. Yes. 3005 03:12:07,950 --> 03:12:10,860 Are you allowed to be on the street, it'll scan you from the 3006 03:12:10,890 --> 03:12:12,000 from the lamppost. 3007 03:12:12,900 --> 03:12:17,550 And they're going to make black people beg for their own demise. 3008 03:12:17,760 --> 03:12:20,460 To say you have to do something about this crime. But they're 3009 03:12:20,460 --> 03:12:23,130 gonna say well, I'm saying we got these robots over here and 3010 03:12:23,130 --> 03:12:27,960 these drones and people need to go check out one of my labs I 3011 03:12:27,960 --> 03:12:31,710 did on this whole policing thing. The drones all the 3012 03:12:31,740 --> 03:12:34,770 footage they had on Rittenhouse. Yeah, that's quite a thing. 3013 03:12:35,370 --> 03:12:38,850 Yeah, yeah, so I was just saying like what this is the apparatus 3014 03:12:39,390 --> 03:12:39,570 it's 3015 03:12:39,570 --> 03:12:43,410 because you're so right because it's become so normal for so is 3016 03:12:43,440 --> 03:12:46,080 oh yeah, I saw the drone footage. No one says what the 3017 03:12:46,080 --> 03:12:50,010 fuck drone footage we got drones flying around these things I 3018 03:12:50,010 --> 03:12:54,210 mean yeah, yeah, your drones ring doorbells as my favorite 3019 03:12:54,480 --> 03:12:57,030 the ring doorbells that's that's the grid man that's that's 3020 03:12:57,030 --> 03:12:58,170 Skynet right there. 3021 03:12:59,280 --> 03:13:03,840 And we're just to go back to the crime bill for one second. So 3022 03:13:03,840 --> 03:13:08,790 look to pot was synonymous with soap. And that was the whole 3023 03:13:08,790 --> 03:13:14,190 purpose. Oh, eggs takes away from Thuggy which they use in 3024 03:13:14,190 --> 03:13:19,200 the British and Indian situation to scare us and into policy 3025 03:13:19,200 --> 03:13:22,560 decisions. Okay, the doggies they're gonna get you so don't 3026 03:13:22,560 --> 03:13:25,200 need to do this in India. They want to do same thing here. 3027 03:13:25,410 --> 03:13:28,350 Remember and we did all this we did the thug thing with Obama 3028 03:13:28,350 --> 03:13:30,540 saying thugs and getting shit over it. Yeah, 3029 03:13:30,660 --> 03:13:33,720 we did the work. The work we did do 3030 03:13:33,720 --> 03:13:35,820 the work. Alright, so 3031 03:13:35,820 --> 03:13:39,930 with that said, I know my inbox is filling up right now don't 3032 03:13:39,930 --> 03:13:41,340 give a rat's ass it is what it is. 3033 03:13:41,970 --> 03:13:44,160 Hey, why don't you if you if you want to say something, then 3034 03:13:44,160 --> 03:13:48,270 boost it if you have a criticism, then boost it with 3035 03:13:48,270 --> 03:13:48,900 some SATs. 3036 03:13:49,560 --> 03:13:54,300 That's that's a great idea. So that's that's the we have to ask 3037 03:13:54,300 --> 03:13:57,510 the question easy to get to pot. So what we're gonna do now is 3038 03:13:57,540 --> 03:14:00,750 this has been such a heavy show with the lynching and things of 3039 03:14:00,750 --> 03:14:03,630 that nature. We're going to end on a light note. And this was 3040 03:14:03,630 --> 03:14:07,380 pretty much the greatest takeout heard on it. Because it's so 3041 03:14:07,380 --> 03:14:12,660 true. And this is a three part of Dave Chappelle and his joke 3042 03:14:12,690 --> 03:14:13,590 on Jesse Smollett, 3043 03:14:13,740 --> 03:14:19,020 just afraid of being attacked? happens the best don't ever 3044 03:14:19,020 --> 03:14:23,910 forget what happened to that French actor? No, I'm talking my 3045 03:14:25,020 --> 03:14:28,920 Jesus movies very French, very famous French actor. 3046 03:14:38,370 --> 03:14:55,920 Jesus Jesus Fourier is active in France. He became famous on a 3047 03:14:55,920 --> 03:15:06,750 show called Empire One night. He was in Chicago late at night and 3048 03:15:06,750 --> 03:15:21,420 was the victim he was the victim of a racist and homophobic 3049 03:15:21,420 --> 03:15:29,520 attack. You see, Jesus name is Jay and he is black, not just 3050 03:15:29,520 --> 03:15:30,060 French 3051 03:15:35,610 --> 03:15:38,820 this that is one of the most genius ways that I ever heard of 3052 03:15:38,820 --> 03:15:42,390 something approaching a topic like that, just by making a 3053 03:15:42,390 --> 03:15:43,020 French. 3054 03:15:43,650 --> 03:15:47,400 And that's why we why Dave Chappelle is so important. And 3055 03:15:47,400 --> 03:15:51,930 people like him that once you do this arm miss these narratives 3056 03:15:51,930 --> 03:15:55,710 with humor, yeah, you really can have a real conversation about 3057 03:15:55,710 --> 03:15:58,770 it. And I know people may you know, we take some of that heavy 3058 03:15:58,770 --> 03:16:01,980 topics in a light way, but that's the disarming of it. So 3059 03:16:01,980 --> 03:16:04,800 now we can have a real conversation and that's why you 3060 03:16:04,800 --> 03:16:08,160 know, a great way of introducing this show to other people. You 3061 03:16:08,160 --> 03:16:11,370 know, you can have listen, they laugh and then you can have a 3062 03:16:11,370 --> 03:16:14,490 conversation on the back end of it. So you want to go ahead and 3063 03:16:14,490 --> 03:16:16,470 get to the second part. Yes, sir. 3064 03:16:16,500 --> 03:16:21,390 Oh is a crazy story. Apparently, when he's walking down the 3065 03:16:21,390 --> 03:16:24,180 street late at night, two white men came out of the shadows 3066 03:16:25,710 --> 03:16:30,450 Magga hats on beat him up. tied a rope around his neck called 3067 03:16:30,450 --> 03:16:35,220 mocha Nicholson and put some bleach on him and ran off into 3068 03:16:35,220 --> 03:16:41,490 the night. She was like international news. And 3069 03:16:41,490 --> 03:16:45,570 everybody was furious especially in Hollywood it's all over 3070 03:16:45,570 --> 03:16:48,660 everybody's Twitter feed and Instagram page justice for juicy 3071 03:16:48,660 --> 03:16:56,610 and all this shit country was up in arms was talking about all 3072 03:16:56,610 --> 03:17:01,530 the time on the news. And for some reason. African Americans 3073 03:17:01,530 --> 03:17:10,800 we will like oddly quiet we were so quiet about the ship that the 3074 03:17:10,800 --> 03:17:14,370 gay community started accusing African American community of 3075 03:17:14,370 --> 03:17:18,180 being homophobic for not supporting him what they didn't 3076 03:17:18,180 --> 03:17:22,950 understand is that we were supporting him with our silence 3077 03:17:24,630 --> 03:17:30,210 because we understood that this nigga was clearly like 3078 03:17:35,640 --> 03:17:37,380 oh man are so good 3079 03:17:40,410 --> 03:17:43,920 and that's the thing everybody try to look the other way like 3080 03:17:44,130 --> 03:17:48,450 now we don't wanna talk about Jessie we don't because it gives 3081 03:17:48,450 --> 03:17:51,930 a whole bunch of things I blackout that are close to us 3082 03:17:52,290 --> 03:17:55,980 one being to pot to being lynching or whatever you have 3083 03:17:55,980 --> 03:18:00,720 whichever order you want to have those in and it's this thing 3084 03:18:00,720 --> 03:18:07,320 like I don't know make me do it juicy don't make me a you know 3085 03:18:07,320 --> 03:18:09,630 call you a liar. But he just kept pushing 3086 03:18:09,660 --> 03:18:13,620 and Dave Chappelle time this so perfectly with it because that 3087 03:18:13,650 --> 03:18:16,290 that in balloon was just inflating the don't talk about 3088 03:18:16,290 --> 03:18:18,450 it. Don't talk about it don't talk and he just popped it in 3089 03:18:18,450 --> 03:18:22,620 such a perfect way it was it was a real cultural moment. 3090 03:18:23,760 --> 03:18:27,390 Master comedian, Master comedian. I guess we can get 3091 03:18:27,390 --> 03:18:29,790 into the final part and the punch line of the joke. 3092 03:18:31,020 --> 03:18:36,360 details added up and he said he's walking down the street in 3093 03:18:36,360 --> 03:18:41,160 Chicago and white dudes come up to him and say hey man, aren't 3094 03:18:41,160 --> 03:18:46,830 you that faggot nigger from Empire? Does that sound like how 3095 03:18:46,830 --> 03:18:51,840 why people talk? No white people they don't talk like that. Are 3096 03:18:51,840 --> 03:18:54,420 you that faggot Lincoln from Empire they would never say 3097 03:18:54,420 --> 03:19:08,580 that. It sounds like something that I would say if you're 3098 03:19:08,580 --> 03:19:12,210 racist and homophobic You Never Noticed videos again watch 3099 03:19:12,210 --> 03:19:21,420 empire. Bible never feel sorry for the police. But this time 3100 03:19:21,420 --> 03:19:24,270 when you can feel sorry for the police. Can you imagine if you 3101 03:19:24,270 --> 03:19:27,840 as a police veteran taking this kid's police report? Okay, Mr. 3102 03:19:27,840 --> 03:19:34,350 Smith, please tell me what happened. All right. We left the 3103 03:19:34,350 --> 03:19:42,270 house today it was minus 16 degrees you're walking your walk 3104 03:19:47,700 --> 03:19:53,430 and where were you going? Subway sandwiches. 3105 03:20:03,929 --> 03:20:08,009 That's when the men approaching Did you see them? Okay, well 3106 03:20:08,009 --> 03:20:14,729 they have on Magga hats Magga hats on in Chicago. Excuse me 3107 03:20:14,729 --> 03:20:23,039 one second. Oh yeah find out where Kanye West was last night 3108 03:20:28,590 --> 03:20:31,260 and that's the genius of Dave Chappelle. You can have a black 3109 03:20:31,260 --> 03:20:34,680 man and a white man laughing just as hard at the same moment 3110 03:20:34,680 --> 03:20:35,880 in the joke. Is 3111 03:20:36,300 --> 03:20:39,030 a roomful of people of all different backgrounds. Yeah. 3112 03:20:39,420 --> 03:20:42,750 laughing at it, but it's it's more serious then. 3113 03:20:44,130 --> 03:20:47,370 He's done more to heal the country than any politician in 3114 03:20:47,370 --> 03:20:50,790 recent memory. That shit heals man, that's good. 3115 03:20:51,330 --> 03:20:53,880 And where would I be without juicy so we love 3116 03:20:54,300 --> 03:20:55,950 we are here at juicy. 3117 03:20:57,300 --> 03:21:04,020 We love you. So that's my take on a juicy smell lay in the hoax 3118 03:21:04,380 --> 03:21:07,680 that may have brought you more facts and 3119 03:21:07,710 --> 03:21:11,280 an appreciation the hope that the hoax that protected us from 3120 03:21:11,280 --> 03:21:15,120 actually having Kamala Harris as president so we have to be kind 3121 03:21:15,120 --> 03:21:16,590 of thankful to juicy. 3122 03:21:17,160 --> 03:21:19,590 That's that let juicy free juice. 3123 03:21:21,090 --> 03:21:25,410 Oh my god. Thanks. Oh, that was great. That was fantastic. And 3124 03:21:25,410 --> 03:21:29,520 what you know once, once you bring it back to Chicago, man, 3125 03:21:29,520 --> 03:21:33,330 my head exploded over here. I got to get new headphones, the 3126 03:21:33,810 --> 03:21:36,780 they don't clamp on my head anymore. So big explosion. That 3127 03:21:36,780 --> 03:21:37,380 was great. 3128 03:21:38,160 --> 03:21:42,840 I'm glad you enjoy it. And I hope all the producers, family 3129 03:21:42,870 --> 03:21:48,450 are deadbeats you choose enjoyed it as well. And as I always say, 3130 03:21:48,990 --> 03:21:52,440 pay attention to everything and the true reveal itself. 3131 03:21:52,800 --> 03:21:56,550 And we look forward to seeing you back here in two weeks time 3132 03:21:56,550 --> 03:22:00,210 for another edition of Mo facts with Adam curry. And just as a 3133 03:22:00,210 --> 03:22:03,960 final thought, I'd like to remind you to go to mo facts.com 3134 03:22:03,960 --> 03:22:07,110 and support us and I have not heard this song for 39 years. I 3135 03:22:07,110 --> 03:22:08,670 appreciate it. I'll talk to you next time.