1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,950 Hey Moe Factz with Adam curry for September 16 2019, episode 2 00:00:13,950 --> 00:00:20,070 number seven to American dudes talking it up. Moe how are you? 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,170 I'm doing good how you know, Adam, 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,620 I'm doing real good. You know, it's Monday once again, that 5 00:00:25,620 --> 00:00:28,200 means Moe Factz around these parts of Austin. 6 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,500 Yes. Um, and as you know, the song goes more money, more 7 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:35,130 problems. 8 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:41,040 That's right. Yes, although I you know, being an old guy is 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,160 like, I just keep hearing Diana Ross. I don't hear anything 10 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:48,300 else. You know. I saw her in the round when I was 15. 11 00:00:49,650 --> 00:00:51,900 That's, that's pretty amazing. And that's what this show is all 12 00:00:51,900 --> 00:00:55,650 about. It's perspective. You can hear the same thing and see it 13 00:00:55,650 --> 00:00:58,410 two different ways. Because when I hear that I hear that 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,750 Notorious BIG more money, more problems digs. So. So speaking 15 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:06,810 of which, more money, more problems we've spoken, the last 16 00:01:06,810 --> 00:01:12,270 show about families and people not in not wanting to have 17 00:01:12,270 --> 00:01:14,490 families that have difficulty that haven't families in these 18 00:01:14,490 --> 00:01:20,580 times. Right. So as that show ended, beginning of the prop, 19 00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:23,100 maybe Tuesday, Wednesday, I got an interesting email from a 20 00:01:23,100 --> 00:01:27,870 friend. And the title of the article was this budget shows 21 00:01:27,870 --> 00:01:34,710 how $350,000 salary, I'm barely qualifies as middle class. Yes. 22 00:01:35,130 --> 00:01:38,580 I actually saw that a few days ago. And I thought to myself, No 23 00:01:38,580 --> 00:01:42,390 wonder I'm struggling. But this is if if you want to live in a 24 00:01:42,390 --> 00:01:43,950 city or just in general, 25 00:01:44,610 --> 00:01:48,690 I think in there, it was like cities such as New York City, 26 00:01:50,010 --> 00:01:57,420 San Francisco, you know, the major hubs. But I think this 27 00:01:57,420 --> 00:02:02,490 speaks to last show while families. This article spoke 28 00:02:02,490 --> 00:02:05,790 about a family of four, two working parents making, you 29 00:02:05,790 --> 00:02:10,500 know, combined salary of $350,000, right? They at the 30 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,790 end, if you lived up to it, this goes to the thing that we talked 31 00:02:14,790 --> 00:02:17,640 about, you know, having the house and the cars and yeah, 32 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:20,010 picket fence and the trips to Disneyland. 33 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,040 Yes. It's what we all want. Right? If you 34 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:28,590 live that today, at the end of the month, I believe you will 35 00:02:28,590 --> 00:02:32,580 have $121 cash flow. 36 00:02:32,730 --> 00:02:35,040 Oh, man, my vape budget is more than that. 37 00:02:36,150 --> 00:02:39,030 You pay for everything. So 38 00:02:39,270 --> 00:02:42,540 now who? Who did this? Who put this study together? Who was the 39 00:02:42,540 --> 00:02:43,320 genius? 40 00:02:43,890 --> 00:02:49,230 This was published on CNBC and num numbers according to the US 41 00:02:49,230 --> 00:02:54,870 Census Bureau. And this was all messy the website was 42 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:58,080 well this is a you sent me a link from MSN but I think the 43 00:02:58,110 --> 00:02:58,860 maybe the British 44 00:02:58,860 --> 00:03:04,980 give me yeah, yes. So it was written by Sean Lang Lang los 45 00:03:05,340 --> 00:03:08,880 Louis Lang. Lang, law, something like that. Yeah, language might 46 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:14,220 be French here. So as we see more money, more problems, and 47 00:03:14,250 --> 00:03:17,550 that kind of explains, puts the button on what we talked about 48 00:03:17,550 --> 00:03:21,840 last show. So but as we see moving forward, and today's 49 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,760 show, we're gonna talk about how money can more money can cause 50 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:31,170 more problems. So how's that great. Twitter feed a lot going 51 00:03:31,170 --> 00:03:33,300 for it? I want to test it out. 52 00:03:34,650 --> 00:03:39,312 To be very honest, I was in we were away this weekend. We were 53 00:03:39,388 --> 00:03:44,051 in Las Vegas. Went to see Bruno Mars. So I really haven't been 54 00:03:44,126 --> 00:03:48,714 looking too much at the great Twitter, but I'm keeping up Moe 55 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:50,820 You know me I'm keeping up. 56 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,810 Okay, so for those out there who don't have the you know, the 57 00:03:54,810 --> 00:03:59,190 privilege of having a great, great Black Twitter line. Oh, 58 00:03:59,190 --> 00:04:04,020 timeline, there was a beef. Black Lives Matter beef to be 59 00:04:04,020 --> 00:04:09,180 more specific. But sweet one Shaun King and one DeRay 60 00:04:09,180 --> 00:04:09,780 Mckesson? 61 00:04:09,810 --> 00:04:13,560 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Very long medium article that was 62 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,550 written about this. 63 00:04:15,150 --> 00:04:20,040 Yes, there was a long medium, medium article written by DeRay 64 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:26,880 Mckesson. And just as of this morning, there was a quote 65 00:04:26,910 --> 00:04:32,490 unquote, I hate this word, clap back. Wash our king with an even 66 00:04:32,490 --> 00:04:36,060 longer, medium article, and we're gonna get into that but 67 00:04:36,420 --> 00:04:38,190 let's start off with the background or 68 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,150 greetings and salutations. I'm Christopher Platt, reporting for 69 00:04:42,150 --> 00:04:45,900 your Black World News with an article from news one, Shaun 70 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:49,650 King and D Ray McKesson once worked closely together, but had 71 00:04:49,650 --> 00:04:53,880 an epic falling out that played out on Twitter years ago. Like 72 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,030 most social media feuds, it was hard to tell who was right or 73 00:04:57,030 --> 00:05:01,950 wrong, but people still took sides Since then, they've really 74 00:05:01,950 --> 00:05:06,510 mentioned each other until now, McKesson wrote a scathing and 75 00:05:06,510 --> 00:05:11,400 long piece on King in a piece for medium. McKesson goes on and 76 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,060 on about how he trusted King believed in his work, but then 77 00:05:15,060 --> 00:05:19,950 noticed dismissiveness and bad communication. He then implies 78 00:05:19,950 --> 00:05:23,160 King stole money from Justice together where McKesson was a 79 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,390 board member at one point and said to date, it's not clear 80 00:05:27,390 --> 00:05:30,990 that Shawn filed the appropriate taxes for justice together, as 81 00:05:30,990 --> 00:05:34,650 there's no 990 Form available for public review from the IRS 82 00:05:34,650 --> 00:05:39,240 website. He also slammed Shawn kings fundraising report, 83 00:05:39,390 --> 00:05:44,400 claiming it was not independent. McKesson also alleged that king 84 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,370 did not raise millions and that he took credit for other 85 00:05:47,370 --> 00:05:51,510 people's work. He takes credit for 100% of all funds raised for 86 00:05:51,510 --> 00:05:55,080 any fundraiser, whose link he has ever posted online in an 87 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,340 email blast or retweeted. McKesson also referenced the 88 00:05:59,340 --> 00:06:03,510 Clarissa Brooks incident, where King demanded an apology after 89 00:06:03,510 --> 00:06:06,930 she reportedly said that he stole or spent money that was 90 00:06:06,930 --> 00:06:10,440 raised for sin, Toya Brown, which King claimed he never 91 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,460 raised money for. McKesson cites a bunch of failed projects from 92 00:06:14,460 --> 00:06:18,720 King. Basically, McKesson believes King is a fraud. 93 00:06:21,660 --> 00:06:24,420 You know, you could put this on shortwave radio and it would 94 00:06:24,420 --> 00:06:28,230 sound really cool. News. 95 00:06:29,550 --> 00:06:37,500 So this is our this was a from the YouTube news, news one. And 96 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:42,450 if you're asking who news one is that is sponsored by Radio One, 97 00:06:42,990 --> 00:06:46,500 which is founded by Miss Cathy Hughes. And that's going to be 98 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:52,470 important later. But let's get in. So just a little background. 99 00:06:52,740 --> 00:06:56,610 These two came up through the Black Lives Matter Ferguson 100 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,310 event with the shooting of Michael Brown and that's how 101 00:07:02,310 --> 00:07:08,220 they became into public light. So from there D Ray has felt 102 00:07:08,220 --> 00:07:12,810 like he's been pushed to the side while Shaun King has no 103 00:07:12,810 --> 00:07:16,050 become like a you know a shooting star he I mean, he's 104 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,400 he's like the the creme de la creme of woke ism was he 105 00:07:20,429 --> 00:07:23,339 was he one of the people who met with Hillary Clinton during the 106 00:07:23,339 --> 00:07:26,399 2016 election. They had that kind of backstage meeting, if 107 00:07:26,399 --> 00:07:27,059 you recall, 108 00:07:27,630 --> 00:07:32,520 which which one DeRay Mckesson or Shaun King. I'm not sure I 109 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,490 know D Ray was there but I'm not sure. All right. And for people 110 00:07:35,490 --> 00:07:39,390 for people to know, Sean, I mean, D Ray was the bigger star 111 00:07:39,420 --> 00:07:44,610 starting out the blue vest. He know he was a really huge star. 112 00:07:44,970 --> 00:07:46,800 But let's go on to the second clip. 113 00:07:46,950 --> 00:07:49,650 Kings been defending his name for weeks after Rihanna 114 00:07:49,650 --> 00:07:52,500 announced she would honor the Morehouse man at an upcoming 115 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:56,580 award ceremony. Social media went ham and demanded that she 116 00:07:56,580 --> 00:08:02,100 reconsider. In response, King released a 72 page report of 117 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:05,850 quote, Every single penny I've ever raised in quote, since 118 00:08:05,850 --> 00:08:09,600 Black Lives Matter began. The documents were compiled and 119 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,680 authored in part by people like Tamika Mallory, co chair of the 120 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Women's March and co founder of Justice League NYC, and civil 121 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,420 rights attorney Lee Merritt. The report focused on fundraisers 122 00:08:21,420 --> 00:08:24,060 that King promote it through his social media accounts. And 123 00:08:24,060 --> 00:08:27,810 provided what King said was a full accounting of his financial 124 00:08:27,810 --> 00:08:31,950 relationship with real justice Pac and action pack, along with 125 00:08:31,950 --> 00:08:33,690 five years of his tax returns. 126 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:38,610 Now hold on a second. You know, for every type of entity, if 127 00:08:38,610 --> 00:08:41,550 it's a PAC, if it's a nonprofit, there's forms you got to fill 128 00:08:41,550 --> 00:08:45,330 out for taxes that I think have to be published publicly unless 129 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,550 there's some other entity that was in play here. 130 00:08:49,140 --> 00:08:52,770 That is correct. And like you said, he led he put out a 72 131 00:08:52,770 --> 00:09:01,170 page report stating how the how the money was spent, and even 132 00:09:01,170 --> 00:09:06,030 heard him brought up the Justice pack the real justice pack, so I 133 00:09:06,030 --> 00:09:10,260 did a little homework. Whenever I hear pack I hear money I start 134 00:09:10,260 --> 00:09:16,350 following the paper trail. So the real justice pack is funded 135 00:09:16,350 --> 00:09:27,060 by carry tuna and justice. Mas moszkowicz. No. Mo SPO. Mas VA 136 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,090 Mackiewicz. Yes. Are you familiar with him? 137 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:33,540 No, I'm in fact this is this is the most names I've ever heard 138 00:09:33,540 --> 00:09:35,310 in this show who I have no clue about. 139 00:09:37,230 --> 00:09:41,880 So Dustin, Moscow, Moscow. I can't say it, Moscow for which 140 00:09:42,180 --> 00:09:49,980 is one of the founders of Facebook. almost $2 million into 141 00:09:49,980 --> 00:09:55,770 this real justice pack. So shocking is backed by Facebook 142 00:09:55,770 --> 00:10:01,350 money to the tune of 2 million dollars and I found it funny 143 00:10:01,350 --> 00:10:07,080 that the money is registered under carry tuna and not under 144 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,990 there. They have a nonprofit that they could have put the 145 00:10:09,990 --> 00:10:14,220 money under, but it was like an individual donor type thing. So 146 00:10:14,220 --> 00:10:17,190 I thought that was funny how they kind of like Tron, in my 147 00:10:17,610 --> 00:10:20,340 honest opinion amassed the money. You know, when you see 148 00:10:20,340 --> 00:10:24,660 Carrie tuna, that doesn't ring a bell, but when I start digging 149 00:10:24,660 --> 00:10:28,140 who she was, I found out who she married to. And then the 150 00:10:28,140 --> 00:10:29,700 connection with Facebook. So 151 00:10:30,270 --> 00:10:35,160 okay. It is Dustin, Dustin Moskovitz. Indeed, my brothers. 152 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,110 Yeah, that's it. That's the guy. Okay, got it. 153 00:10:37,770 --> 00:10:42,390 So, that just struck me as weird. I mean, you guys have a 154 00:10:42,390 --> 00:10:48,390 nonprofit they took the PAC with, with Bill Gates and Warren 155 00:10:48,390 --> 00:10:51,150 Buffett to spend all their money donate all their money in their 156 00:10:51,150 --> 00:10:51,870 lifetime. 157 00:10:51,900 --> 00:10:55,470 Yeah, this is the giving pledge that you will give away. At 158 00:10:55,470 --> 00:10:57,900 least I think it's half of your fortune in your lifetime, but 159 00:10:57,900 --> 00:10:59,550 the idea is to spend all of it. 160 00:11:00,810 --> 00:11:05,460 Right. But as you hear in this piece from the news, Warren, 161 00:11:05,490 --> 00:11:10,080 which is a product of Radio One, they're very friendly and 162 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,200 protective of Shaun King. They really didn't get into the 163 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,720 Article of the accusation DeRay Mckesson made, it was more to 164 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,630 the defense of Shaun King and that's going to be very 165 00:11:21,630 --> 00:11:26,610 important to remember this valve that away. Why? We'll see later 166 00:11:26,610 --> 00:11:30,090 on and you know, in my presentation, but let's go to 167 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,020 clip three. 168 00:11:31,170 --> 00:11:33,930 In addition, King said the authors of the fundraising 169 00:11:33,930 --> 00:11:37,920 report had unlimited access to his and his family's checking 170 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,280 accounts, savings accounts, credit cards, retirement 171 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,270 accounts and money management software. I've helped raise over 172 00:11:45,270 --> 00:11:49,740 34 point 5 million for families, charities, causes and campaigns 173 00:11:49,950 --> 00:11:54,390 King tweeted Tuesday morning, a seven person expert review board 174 00:11:54,390 --> 00:11:57,990 inspected every penny, including the past five years of my tax 175 00:11:57,990 --> 00:12:03,600 returns. There's 72 page report. In addition, the families of Nia 176 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,560 Wilson Philando Castile, Terrence Crutcher and multiple 177 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:11,400 other people killed in recent years vouched for King, the 178 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,190 family of both them John, the man who was killed by Dallas 179 00:12:14,190 --> 00:12:18,120 police officer Amber Geiger a year ago this Friday had nothing 180 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,390 but glowing words for King. We have had the pleasure of 181 00:12:21,390 --> 00:12:24,210 interacting with Shaun king in the months following Bolton's 182 00:12:24,210 --> 00:12:27,780 murder, John's family wrote, Sean has become more than 183 00:12:27,780 --> 00:12:31,290 another voice for our family. He's become our friend. He's 184 00:12:31,290 --> 00:12:35,430 advocated for the John family spoke up for us, dried our tears 185 00:12:35,430 --> 00:12:39,120 and held our hands. We're grateful for his support, as are 186 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,680 many other families who have met him. 187 00:12:41,490 --> 00:12:44,100 Well, what this tells me is don't mess with this guy because 188 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:45,810 the dead are speaking on his behalf. 189 00:12:48,690 --> 00:12:54,810 Also, um, if you notice, it's one of those things where Al 190 00:12:54,810 --> 00:13:01,770 Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, you call Shaun king, he gets the 191 00:13:01,770 --> 00:13:05,910 money. And we're gonna see, I think later in on the 192 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:08,880 presentation, we're gonna say he raised over like, maybe $30 193 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:15,030 million. Wow, on behalf of families and organizations. But 194 00:13:15,150 --> 00:13:18,900 before we move forward, you know, we always, as I always 195 00:13:18,900 --> 00:13:21,660 like to do we have to go backwards before we can go 196 00:13:21,660 --> 00:13:26,340 forward. So, Adam, I'm going to test your memory a little bit. 197 00:13:26,820 --> 00:13:32,880 Why? Why was what was the purpose of Black Lives Matter? 198 00:13:33,390 --> 00:13:37,110 Who was it? Who was it set aside to protect your opinion? In my 199 00:13:37,110 --> 00:13:40,740 opinion, black lives matter was set up particularly to bring 200 00:13:40,770 --> 00:13:45,930 attention to police brutality against black people. 201 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,700 Specifically, black males, correct? Because that's who the 202 00:13:50,700 --> 00:13:52,110 majority of the victims were. 203 00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:56,880 Yes, yeah. I would not have specified it as such. But yeah, 204 00:13:56,910 --> 00:13:57,630 yes, sure. 205 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:01,080 And this has been the argument just I mean, from my 206 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,080 perspective, I didn't want to, you know, put words into your 207 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,170 mouth. But the perspective were when I first saw Black Lives 208 00:14:07,170 --> 00:14:12,330 Matter trending on, on social media, it was kind of like they 209 00:14:12,330 --> 00:14:17,220 were using the plight of the black male being gunned down by 210 00:14:17,220 --> 00:14:23,880 police with your hands up. Um, you know, you know, to bring 211 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:29,760 attention to that. But let's listen to I found a great 212 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:35,850 interview with the three three creators of Black Lives Matters. 213 00:14:36,180 --> 00:14:43,800 Alicia got on Garza. Patrisse Cullors. And oppo tell me, 214 00:14:43,829 --> 00:14:47,789 yep, and the name Patrice. I recognize, recognize, I think 215 00:14:47,789 --> 00:14:49,589 from a connection to Soros or something, 216 00:14:50,430 --> 00:14:54,660 right. You always get in the head there. I'm 217 00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:58,980 sorry. I'm sorry. I knew something's becoming 218 00:14:59,250 --> 00:15:03,870 this is becoming a common thing with you? Yeah, um, we had a 219 00:15:03,870 --> 00:15:08,940 great sit down with TED talks, which is a you know, platform to 220 00:15:08,940 --> 00:15:12,780 get all that the oh wait woke agenda out there. And let's 221 00:15:12,780 --> 00:15:17,220 listen to the reason why they started Black Lives Matter. 222 00:15:17,460 --> 00:15:21,810 Why is Black Lives Matter important for the US right now. 223 00:15:22,170 --> 00:15:22,920 And in the world. 224 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:29,970 Black Lives Matter is our call to action. It is a tool to 225 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:36,060 reimagine a world where black people are free to exist, free 226 00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:40,470 to live. It is a tool for our allies to show up differently 227 00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:41,190 for us. 228 00:15:41,550 --> 00:15:44,250 Whoa, that's not but I understood the movement to be. 229 00:15:45,060 --> 00:15:47,970 And I thank God for him because I didn't know I wasn't free to 230 00:15:48,150 --> 00:15:55,320 live resists. But God bless him. Feel free, feel free. Right. So 231 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,420 let's get into clip. Two of Miss Patrice Cole years, 232 00:16:00,569 --> 00:16:07,949 Black Lives Matter offers answers to the why offers a new 233 00:16:07,949 --> 00:16:12,989 vision for young black girls around the world that we deserve 234 00:16:12,989 --> 00:16:18,029 to be fought for. That we deserve to call on local 235 00:16:18,029 --> 00:16:19,979 governments to show up for us. 236 00:16:20,010 --> 00:16:24,090 Wow, this is not at all what the message was. 237 00:16:25,620 --> 00:16:29,460 I thought it was hands up don't shoot black, young black men, 238 00:16:29,790 --> 00:16:32,460 black men of color are being shot down in the street light 239 00:16:32,460 --> 00:16:40,320 animals. But obviously not. And you know what, I cannot receive 240 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,370 this coming. I am being ultra facetious. But 241 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,280 hold on, let me ask let me ask your question. Was now this that 242 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,580 you said the things from a TED talk was that at the founding, 243 00:16:53,580 --> 00:16:56,640 or was it later I mean, was that the original concept and I just 244 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,170 want to get the timeline maybe that 245 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,450 this is this is afterwards, this is a couple of years after you 246 00:17:03,450 --> 00:17:09,510 know, they got off the ground. Because as you've heard, Black 247 00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:13,110 Lives Matter started out as a hash tag and the name became a 248 00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:19,560 organization. And then you know, became a vehicle. For what 249 00:17:19,620 --> 00:17:25,050 always these liberal super woke, I hate using that word 250 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:32,640 repeatedly. But these movements happen, it's like black people 251 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:38,430 causes is the stepping stone to get into bigger fundraising and 252 00:17:38,430 --> 00:17:42,510 taking bigger issues on. So also, if you really want to get 253 00:17:42,540 --> 00:17:45,840 in, you know, you start with the black people or you start with 254 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:50,730 the black causes. And then you're gonna hear Miss Opal, 255 00:17:50,730 --> 00:17:55,830 tell me pivot to other causes. 256 00:17:56,430 --> 00:18:02,430 We need this because the global reality is the black people are 257 00:18:02,430 --> 00:18:06,480 subject to all sorts of disparities. And most of our 258 00:18:06,510 --> 00:18:10,620 most challenging issues of our day, I think about issues like 259 00:18:10,620 --> 00:18:16,350 climate change, and how six of the 10 worst impacted nations by 260 00:18:16,350 --> 00:18:19,830 climate change are actually on the continent of Africa. 261 00:18:20,190 --> 00:18:24,450 Whoa, this is great. I wish I'd had this for no agenda. This is 262 00:18:24,450 --> 00:18:29,520 fantastic. Good. Okay. Climate change is killing black men in 263 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:30,510 the neighborhoods. 264 00:18:31,710 --> 00:18:38,610 Yes, obviously, climate only affects us. Sports specifically, 265 00:18:38,850 --> 00:18:45,510 but as you see is what they call mission creep. Yeah, it's a form 266 00:18:45,510 --> 00:18:48,540 of mission creep. You know, they get their foot in the door, 267 00:18:48,930 --> 00:18:51,960 people like, oh, that Black Lives Matter thing is pretty 268 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:57,030 cool. They got there. Let's talk all these other things. And with 269 00:18:57,030 --> 00:19:00,000 it, you know, and then it becomes so diluted that it 270 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:06,030 doesn't even address. The original concern was, which is 271 00:19:06,030 --> 00:19:09,060 the actual concern, black men being shot in the streets? Let's 272 00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:16,380 not let's not poopoo that. But if the people that are receiving 273 00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:22,140 the funding and attention, go away from drawing attention to 274 00:19:22,140 --> 00:19:25,980 that problem. That's something you expect anybody else to do 275 00:19:25,980 --> 00:19:31,170 exactly. And we see this over and over and over again. And 276 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:33,930 that's why people become so jaded to these movements, 277 00:19:33,930 --> 00:19:39,120 because we know how it's going to end up. I mean, as we say, on 278 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:45,390 this show, hopefully, the past only repeats itself. This is 279 00:19:45,390 --> 00:19:48,840 just a new iteration of something that that we've seen 280 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,250 before. Well, let's listen to Miss automake speak some more. 281 00:19:53,670 --> 00:19:58,080 We also see disasters like Hurricane Matthew, which 282 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,980 recently wreaked havoc in Many different nations, because the 283 00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:07,620 most damage to Haiti. Haiti is the poorest country in this 284 00:20:07,620 --> 00:20:12,330 hemisphere, and its inhabitants are black people. And what we're 285 00:20:12,330 --> 00:20:16,320 seeing in Haiti is that they were actually facing a number of 286 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,860 challenges that even preceded this hurricane. They were 287 00:20:19,860 --> 00:20:22,890 reeling from the earthquake, they were reeling from cholera 288 00:20:22,890 --> 00:20:26,700 that was brought in by UN peacekeepers, and still hasn't 289 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:30,450 been eradicated. This is unconscionable. And this would 290 00:20:30,450 --> 00:20:34,950 not happen if this nation didn't have a population that was 291 00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:37,560 black. And we have to be real about that. 292 00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:42,210 Yes, because earthquakes only target black people. 293 00:20:43,860 --> 00:20:45,270 And hurricanes 294 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:52,140 and hurricanes and Hades. This is Black Lives Matter. Haitian 295 00:20:52,140 --> 00:20:54,000 Black Lives Matter. This is great. 296 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,140 So let me ask you this. A couple of questions. And these are no 297 00:20:58,140 --> 00:21:03,510 agenda questions. One who kind of took charge after that 298 00:21:03,810 --> 00:21:05,160 earthquake happened in Haiti? 299 00:21:05,399 --> 00:21:07,409 Well, that would be the Clintons. 300 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:18,270 Why no mention of the Clintons. And how they misappropriated 301 00:21:18,300 --> 00:21:23,040 billions of dollars. Yes. Ah, hey, they should be a top notch, 302 00:21:23,250 --> 00:21:27,960 top notch nation with the amount of money that was infused from 303 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,570 the from the earthquake. Oh, 304 00:21:30,570 --> 00:21:33,420 well, yeah. If the money was infused, I mean, what wound up 305 00:21:33,420 --> 00:21:36,900 happening is the Red Cross built about six homes and the Clintons 306 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:40,470 built a hotel and they got the Bill and Hillary suite. Now it 307 00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:45,450 was and this is almost like mainstream acknowledgement of 308 00:21:45,450 --> 00:21:52,020 how poorly handled that was. And not to mention what's the guy? 309 00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:57,240 Sweet Ron Martelli. There was a whole bunch of other who was the 310 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,970 one didn't the Black Eyed Peas guy jump in there for a hot 311 00:21:59,970 --> 00:22:00,390 minute? 312 00:22:01,740 --> 00:22:06,600 Yeah, and was it um, was it him or were you talking about watch 313 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,140 you got what club John I'm sorry. Wyclef. Yeah. Like okay. 314 00:22:10,140 --> 00:22:14,610 Yeah. Rodman and let's not forget about Mr. Rotom. Hillary 315 00:22:14,610 --> 00:22:15,630 Clinton's brother. 316 00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:19,980 Uh, yes, he got when he got the the exclusive mining licenses to 317 00:22:19,980 --> 00:22:21,060 mine for gold. 318 00:22:21,930 --> 00:22:27,450 Right. So but it was the natural disaster. That was the problem. 319 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,840 Yes. Because not not, no earthquakes and hurricanes hate 320 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,210 black people. And they target I mean, they, 321 00:22:33,870 --> 00:22:38,550 they racially profiled racist island over there. That one 322 00:22:38,550 --> 00:22:42,060 looks nice. Let's let's go blow that one down. Not the 323 00:22:42,060 --> 00:22:46,740 government, you know, and I put the sole responsibility on the 324 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:50,430 government of those nations, because they're allowed to 325 00:22:51,690 --> 00:22:57,000 misuse the funds that are given to assist their people. But this 326 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,240 goes to show you the problem. They don't want to step on any 327 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:06,630 toes of the Maggard downers and the donor, donor class because 328 00:23:06,660 --> 00:23:09,150 this is where they get their daily bread from 329 00:23:10,170 --> 00:23:12,330 fundraising. 101 right there in the book, 330 00:23:12,810 --> 00:23:16,230 right? Yeah, you don't step no step on the toes of the donors. 331 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:23,040 But moving forward. Miss Alicia, Garza. Let's hear her take on 332 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,910 black lives matter 333 00:23:23,940 --> 00:23:26,880 when you deal with what's happening in black communities. 334 00:23:27,570 --> 00:23:31,440 It creates an effervescence, right? So a bubble up rather 335 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,160 than a trickle down. Let me give an example. When we talk about 336 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:40,530 the wage gap, we often say women make 78 cents to every dollar 337 00:23:40,740 --> 00:23:43,980 that a man makes y'all have heard that before. But those are 338 00:23:43,980 --> 00:23:47,820 the statistics for white women and white men. The reality is 339 00:23:47,820 --> 00:23:52,740 that black women make something like 64 cents to every 78 cents 340 00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:56,610 that white women make. When we talk about Latinas it goes down 341 00:23:56,610 --> 00:24:00,690 to about 58 cents. If we were to talk about Indigenous women, if 342 00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:03,600 we were to talk about trans women, it would even go farther 343 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,770 down. So again, if you deal with those who are the most impacted, 344 00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:10,950 everybody has an opportunity to benefit from that. 345 00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:16,020 Okay, well, this you know, I have a trouble problem with 346 00:24:16,020 --> 00:24:17,850 these statistics in general. I don't know if that's where you 347 00:24:17,850 --> 00:24:18,690 want to go, but 348 00:24:19,020 --> 00:24:24,600 I know we're not going to go down that. I agree. I agree with 349 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,780 your honor. I know you're going to come from and yeah, those 350 00:24:27,780 --> 00:24:35,520 numbers are our ra Missmiss Twister the calculations. The 351 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:42,150 point I want to make is out of all three founders out of all 352 00:24:42,150 --> 00:24:46,980 the clips that we heard. We never heard the Black Male No, 353 00:24:47,010 --> 00:24:51,750 no, no man No. No brought up once. And I didn't cherry pick 354 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:58,110 this. I didn't cherry pick this TED Talks video. This is 355 00:24:58,110 --> 00:25:03,360 literally the first Question and their responses? 356 00:25:05,970 --> 00:25:09,270 Well, that shows that we've been hoodwinked. 357 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,540 Yes, we have and we were told that we were hoodwinked by 358 00:25:15,540 --> 00:25:22,950 people on the ground. in Ferguson, there is a gentleman 359 00:25:23,130 --> 00:25:30,120 named Darren seals. He was one of the local activists, and he 360 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:36,060 was tied to the streets. in Ferguson, well respected. He 361 00:25:36,060 --> 00:25:38,040 know he started out in the streets, but then he, you know, 362 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,410 he, he, he went away from that, to you know, kind of being a 363 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,140 positive force in the streets. But let's let's do Mr. Darren 364 00:25:49,140 --> 00:25:51,690 seals speak about black lives matter 365 00:25:52,020 --> 00:25:56,563 what it is man? Did hashtag Black Lives Matter? That bore is 366 00:25:56,639 --> 00:26:00,652 bullshit, man. Black Lives Matter. No one's doing it. 367 00:26:00,728 --> 00:26:05,044 People don't even know that black lives matter. They want 368 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,814 this to send these people to do the right. Black Lives Matter. 369 00:26:09,890 --> 00:26:14,358 They sit him down. That was awesome. Right, so now his name 370 00:26:14,433 --> 00:26:19,280 is dB. D re d r ay. D re he's a homo. Homo. Homo go to the right 371 00:26:19,355 --> 00:26:23,899 now. Follow. Go look at him. But 50,000 followers before the 372 00:26:23,974 --> 00:26:27,912 credit court, he's from Baltimore. There's a credit. 373 00:26:27,988 --> 00:26:32,607 He's from Baltimore. He'd been highly focused. The focus that 374 00:26:32,682 --> 00:26:37,226 person got here by seeing it from folks are right handed the 375 00:26:37,301 --> 00:26:42,072 folks that thing and quiet down. He went back to Baltimore, the 376 00:26:42,148 --> 00:26:45,480 Baltimore boys read them about it. There was 377 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,530 a lot going on in this clip. No. Yes, it is. 378 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,330 And no, and I would say in a way it feels like we're getting a 379 00:26:54,420 --> 00:27:00,330 look inside the mind of, dare I say an average black American 380 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,640 male who are not brought up ahead. Yeah. 381 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,760 I'm glad you brought that point. And he received pushback for 382 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,660 using, quote unquote, unacceptable language when he 383 00:27:15,660 --> 00:27:19,800 talking about the LGBT community. They labeled him as a 384 00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:23,100 homophobic, he addressed that later on in the clip, but I 385 00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:26,880 didn't want to make the clip too long. Not later on this clip, 386 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,350 but other clips. He, he addressed that, as they painted 387 00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:35,190 him as they paint anybody that disagrees with them as being 388 00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:39,120 homophobic and not to be heard. But the point he was trying to 389 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:49,260 make is, these people came from other places. And created a 390 00:27:49,260 --> 00:27:54,240 situation and made the situation worse than it was the agitated. 391 00:27:55,530 --> 00:28:00,270 What was going on in Ferguson, while reaping the benefits, and 392 00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:03,480 actually wasn't even boots on the ground. They weren't 393 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:09,120 standing on the front lines. No, they were on Twitter. They were 394 00:28:09,150 --> 00:28:13,530 you know, securing the funds that never made it to the people 395 00:28:13,530 --> 00:28:19,380 like himself that were were on the ground. And one thing you 396 00:28:19,380 --> 00:28:28,080 brought up is inside the mind of a black man. I'm gonna say this 397 00:28:28,110 --> 00:28:31,530 black people, and I've said this before Black people are some of 398 00:28:31,530 --> 00:28:40,170 the most socially conservative groups there is. So when you try 399 00:28:40,170 --> 00:28:45,600 to push these new ideas and ideologies on us that go counter 400 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,410 to what we believe you get pushed back now he is not the 401 00:28:49,410 --> 00:28:51,000 most articulate person. 402 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,060 Well, let me let me jump in. I mean, just from my perspective, 403 00:28:57,570 --> 00:29:00,210 the general feeling I get my you know, I don't like to 404 00:29:00,210 --> 00:29:04,650 generalize, but we're doing it is that black men have an 405 00:29:04,650 --> 00:29:10,800 aversion against gay men and certainly transgendered black 406 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,130 men. 407 00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:14,760 Okay, let's take let's take, 408 00:29:15,719 --> 00:29:19,529 ah, that's that's just an observation. It's generalizing, 409 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:22,409 you know, and tell me where I'm at. 410 00:29:23,159 --> 00:29:30,089 I'm gonna speak from personal. Ah, I have nothing against LGBT. 411 00:29:30,899 --> 00:29:35,639 The problem I have is the over representation in the media of 412 00:29:35,639 --> 00:29:41,399 black men being gay. Got it? Where 30% of the population is 413 00:29:41,399 --> 00:29:46,349 black. Half of that makes this What 6.5% of the population? 414 00:29:46,649 --> 00:29:49,349 Correct? Yep, boom. When you turn on the television. 415 00:29:52,350 --> 00:29:53,490 There's Don Lemon. 416 00:29:54,270 --> 00:29:57,630 Right. The number of black men represented in the media 417 00:29:57,630 --> 00:30:02,970 represented in movies represented and just overall was 418 00:30:02,970 --> 00:30:07,980 portrayed on you know, the television screens, movie 419 00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:12,060 screens, even memes, when you look at means black men are 420 00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:18,900 represented as overall a large portion or a large portion of 421 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:24,900 them are represented as a homosexual. Also, just and I 422 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:27,300 don't I didn't want to go here, but it's going to be very 423 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:31,200 important to this. This conversation we're having. There 424 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,230 was recently a guy named Malik Yoba. I don't know if you 425 00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:37,650 familiar with him or not. But he was on a popular television 426 00:30:37,650 --> 00:30:41,400 show. New York undercover. It was a nightie night. He's on 427 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:48,660 Fox. He's come out and he's been hugely Pro. Trans. He's trying 428 00:30:48,660 --> 00:30:52,500 to say that. If you date trans women, I don't know how it goes 429 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:57,060 when I think the women men that are women or trans women, I 430 00:30:57,060 --> 00:31:02,880 believe. Yeah, I don't have my Yes, right. There pushing now 431 00:31:02,910 --> 00:31:07,560 that you shouldn't if you don't want to date a trans woman, 432 00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:10,650 you're transphobic and homophobic. 433 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,370 Yeah, well, and that's colorless. I mean, that's across 434 00:31:14,370 --> 00:31:18,330 the board. If you say I'd never drink data trans woman, you're 435 00:31:18,420 --> 00:31:21,150 transphobic right off. That's the you know, this is this is 436 00:31:21,150 --> 00:31:23,610 the Dave Chappelle trap. This 437 00:31:23,610 --> 00:31:26,880 is the Dave Chappelle trap. And it's it's amazing how these two 438 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,070 things were going on at the same time in the news. Yeah, Dave 439 00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:33,030 Chappelle is comedy special. And then you had Malik Yoba coming 440 00:31:33,030 --> 00:31:36,090 out being an advocate for this. And of course, they went to the 441 00:31:36,090 --> 00:31:38,370 Breakfast Club, and I don't want to go down that rabbit hole, but 442 00:31:38,370 --> 00:31:41,460 I just want to go to show you in the mind of average black males 443 00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:49,410 like you're either portraying us as hyper sexual, violent, or 444 00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:56,760 hyper feminine. Masculine, there's no you know, normalcy. 445 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,480 We don't get any normalcy, how we're represented in the media 446 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,810 and I think that's what you're hearing now from Mr. Darren 447 00:32:03,810 --> 00:32:07,170 seals, but just to get back on track. Let's hear on Darren 448 00:32:07,170 --> 00:32:10,290 speaks Darren seals speak out about Black Lives Matter. 449 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,980 So when I tweet and they play in Canada with the white folks you 450 00:32:13,980 --> 00:32:16,530 know, they've racist they hide behind fake pages on Twitter 451 00:32:16,530 --> 00:32:19,860 talking shit going back and forth we tweet retweet it's like 452 00:32:19,860 --> 00:32:23,490 a big ass show. You know so you got a lot of people sending them 453 00:32:23,490 --> 00:32:29,010 money turning them into stars Oprah tweet net in Hong Kong her 454 00:32:29,010 --> 00:32:33,630 fucking the face of Ferguson nobody know the fuck she is in 455 00:32:33,630 --> 00:32:37,410 the face of shit. When even out there which came out this year 456 00:32:37,410 --> 00:32:44,850 said don't tweet like what you face@twitter.com Anyways man, 457 00:32:45,390 --> 00:32:48,510 we're happy we don't understand Black Lives Matter. This 458 00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:52,110 organization I think it's just a hash tag and people just saying 459 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,630 hey, Ty white folks are part of it. They put it in the media 460 00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:00,210 some behind it believe it 461 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:09,090 won't cry so he saw what was going on. He saw the money 462 00:33:09,090 --> 00:33:12,090 coming in was it was it reaching you know you see these GoFundMe 463 00:33:12,090 --> 00:33:15,810 is go up. You see these people that are receiving all this 464 00:33:15,810 --> 00:33:18,990 media attention on social media but you're not seeing them on 465 00:33:18,990 --> 00:33:21,840 the front lines question yes. How? 466 00:33:23,490 --> 00:33:28,110 So the Black Lives money funding money that comes in? What do the 467 00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:30,930 boots on what did they expect that they would be giving them 468 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,240 money to survive while protesting materials signs? I 469 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,450 mean, what what would the money what was the money necessary 470 00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:40,200 for? 471 00:33:41,130 --> 00:33:44,910 Okay, about 1 billion people out of jail? Wow. Yes, God, okay, 472 00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:48,840 got it, too. I mean, it's kind of like when when you're now you 473 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,820 gotta look at it like you're at war and war analogy, but you got 474 00:33:53,820 --> 00:33:56,310 to have resources to the troops. 475 00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:01,680 The bail right at the top I get it. A lot of a lot of money 476 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,670 raised for protesters is for for bail, bail funds. 477 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,140 Okay, let me let me draw this analogy to you. So say you 478 00:34:10,140 --> 00:34:15,900 always bringing up the homeless issue in Austin, right. I'm from 479 00:34:15,930 --> 00:34:21,540 Northern Virginia DMV, DC area. Ally a man that's terrible. What 480 00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:26,760 was going on in Austin? I come out there I set up shop, saying 481 00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:33,210 I'll Austin Austin. But then I secure funds and take them back 482 00:34:33,210 --> 00:34:38,340 to DNV. GL, ya know, I live in Austin. That would be seen as 483 00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:46,290 like, disingenuous. Yeah, um, but he made a good he made a 484 00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:52,290 point there isn't it's not a good point. But what black 485 00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:55,470 people have noticed, and I'm just speaking in generalities, 486 00:34:55,500 --> 00:35:03,030 generalities that whenever you see these groups show up Um, and 487 00:35:03,030 --> 00:35:10,320 you see they're headed by or funded, you know, by certain, 488 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,020 you know, same demographics. I'm being white liberals in this 489 00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:18,060 case. You know, it really irks you, you know, especially when 490 00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:22,650 you're in when we saw how he understood how it was going to 491 00:35:22,650 --> 00:35:25,800 end up. What we saw on the previous clips that how they 492 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,600 were speaking about what Black Black Lives Matter had evolved 493 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:36,810 to, not what they were raising money off of. But Mr. Darren 494 00:35:36,810 --> 00:35:41,970 seals, um, he was causing too many problems. 495 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,000 Don't upset the applecart. 496 00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:48,570 Right. When you come out there and you start adding, he has 497 00:35:48,570 --> 00:35:52,200 started gaining gaining attention, albeit from smaller 498 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,750 platforms. That's why I had to get the I read the really big to 499 00:35:54,750 --> 00:36:00,480 get these clips because, um, they were really, for lack of a 500 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:06,450 better word blackballing him and the media. On to a certain event 501 00:36:06,450 --> 00:36:07,080 happen. 502 00:36:08,370 --> 00:36:12,510 Darren seals was known locally as a rapper nationally for his 503 00:36:12,510 --> 00:36:16,050 activism during the Ferguson protests, seals was found shot 504 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,230 inside a burning car in Riverview on Diamond drive. 505 00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:22,200 Police initially thought they were responding to a car on 506 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,710 fire. But once they put out the flames, they discovered seals 507 00:36:25,710 --> 00:36:28,200 body inside with a gunshot wound 508 00:36:28,350 --> 00:36:31,050 the community cares about 509 00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:34,050 Benjamin Graham does with the St. Louis County Police 510 00:36:34,050 --> 00:36:37,590 Department. He's hoping seal status will encourage people to 511 00:36:37,590 --> 00:36:39,240 come forward with information. 512 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,720 I do know that there is a lot of sentiment in the community that 513 00:36:43,140 --> 00:36:46,590 they want justice, they want the truth and we hope to give that 514 00:36:46,590 --> 00:36:50,670 to them. We can't do it alone. So we're hoping that friends, 515 00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:54,150 family members, acquaintances, or just any members of the 516 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:57,120 community can come forward and help us out with this with any 517 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,200 information they may have. 518 00:36:58,859 --> 00:37:03,299 Yeah, you know, I vaguely remember this. And I remember it 519 00:37:03,299 --> 00:37:06,449 and we might even talked about it on no agenda. We were like, 520 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,929 well, if you're in the car and the cars burning, and you got a 521 00:37:09,929 --> 00:37:13,289 bullet holding it, you got to know that's not suicide. 522 00:37:14,670 --> 00:37:20,250 Not suicide and not some random beef. The guy was beloved in his 523 00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:24,450 neighborhood, rather people that actually live there. It reminds 524 00:37:24,450 --> 00:37:29,640 me of the and God His name just slipped my mind just that quick. 525 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:37,740 The guy who was shot in DC, with the Democratic um, he was a 526 00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:46,830 Democratic Party worker. Oh is sad? 527 00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:49,440 I think it was Shawn, it was the name Shawn. 528 00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:52,110 It wasn't Shawn. It was. 529 00:37:53,550 --> 00:37:56,250 This is horrible that we don't don't know this. 530 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,800 Okay, consult the book and knowledge. 531 00:38:02,250 --> 00:38:05,370 Seth Rich, I knew I was gonna get this right now. 532 00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:09,810 Just the fact that we forget. shows even more trouble. 533 00:38:09,810 --> 00:38:11,850 That's That's tragic, isn't it? 534 00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:17,850 Because we remember him. I mean, we all remember him. But as I 535 00:38:17,850 --> 00:38:20,580 mean, you go to show you that people can be erased. And this 536 00:38:20,580 --> 00:38:24,360 is the case I think is good with Darren seals. He was talking too 537 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:31,950 much for certain people good. And we know as looking back now, 538 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,230 a lot of big money was being pumped into Black Lives Matter. 539 00:38:37,259 --> 00:38:40,409 Now. Was there? Was there any kind of investigation? Was there 540 00:38:40,409 --> 00:38:43,229 any follow up of this? This murder? 541 00:38:43,830 --> 00:38:49,080 I searched all over the web. That was the only clip I could 542 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,430 find. And there was other ones around that time just reporting 543 00:38:53,430 --> 00:38:57,600 the death but no follow up. And usually when there's no follow, 544 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,430 I'll say it like this. If you okay is to is two ways you can 545 00:39:02,430 --> 00:39:06,510 look at it. One, the police killed him or people who pro 546 00:39:06,510 --> 00:39:11,490 police killed him because he was an activist. And then you use 547 00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:16,200 him as a martyr. You know, to gain attention, right? I mean, 548 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,950 know what I'm saying? Yeah, of course, it right. But the fat 549 00:39:19,950 --> 00:39:24,870 and the same thing with Seth Rich, if he was killed, because 550 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:30,480 he had information about the Russians, quote, unquote, 551 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,530 Russians. Yeah, that would, or you could use gun violence, 552 00:39:34,530 --> 00:39:37,020 which would have been great for the Democratic Party, you know, 553 00:39:37,020 --> 00:39:39,450 look another, you know, saying one of our own take it down my 554 00:39:39,450 --> 00:39:42,360 gun violence, you know, we need to bring attention to gun 555 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,810 control, 556 00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:47,730 and none of that and to be specific, Seth Rich. The belief 557 00:39:47,730 --> 00:39:51,720 is that he was the one that pulled the emails from the 558 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:55,980 Democratic National Committee server and gave those to 559 00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:56,820 WikiLeaks. 560 00:39:57,570 --> 00:40:01,500 That's true, but what I'm saying is it You say it's a random 561 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,210 street crop, which is the official story. Yeah. Right. Why 562 00:40:06,210 --> 00:40:11,940 didn't the Democrats use this as a, one of our own taken by gun 563 00:40:11,940 --> 00:40:12,360 violence? 564 00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:16,740 Well, you know, it was, it was a 22 caliber. It's not a scary ar 565 00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:18,840 15. But I understand what you're saying. 566 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,420 Right? And it's the same thing. If you look at it through the 567 00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:27,390 same lens here, if it was a anti Black Lives Matter, pro cop, 568 00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:30,960 murderer, right? We need to use this guy as a martyr. Yes. But 569 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,160 when it goes silent, 570 00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:36,690 then you know something's up. Okay. All right, I totally get 571 00:40:36,690 --> 00:40:37,980 it. So that's, 572 00:40:38,010 --> 00:40:42,060 that's how I saw that. But we got to understand, okay, if 573 00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:45,450 we're gonna go with he was silence. Why would we be 574 00:40:45,450 --> 00:40:50,070 silence? And my theory is the money that was being pumped into 575 00:40:50,070 --> 00:40:54,330 Black Lives Matter and who was doing it. So 576 00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:57,960 who's funding Black Lives Matter? One of the big donors 577 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,410 seems to be George Soros or old Powell gives big money to 578 00:41:01,410 --> 00:41:05,730 affiliates of Black Lives Matter groups that do direct business 579 00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:09,270 with them, also giving money directly to the group, 580 00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:14,880 entertainers, Jay Z and Beyonce. And they are joining us now from 581 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,880 Washington, Kelly riddle, an investigative reporter for The 582 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,180 Washington Times. Is this just a fringe group? Or should we take 583 00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:22,050 them seriously? 584 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,140 Well, I mean, you gotta look at Black Lives Matter is really an 585 00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:30,690 umbrella slogan kind of group that encompasses a lot of social 586 00:41:30,690 --> 00:41:35,280 justice workers, and a lot of social justice organizations. 587 00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:39,540 And it's it was a group that was started by three women that work 588 00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:42,870 at Soros backed organizations that are into community 589 00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:46,530 organizing, into kind of riling up activists. 590 00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:51,480 And yes, okay, it's all coming back now. Yep. And I remember I 591 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,600 don't know which one of the women had, I think, a $2 million 592 00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:59,220 nonprofit that definitely was funded by Open Society 593 00:41:59,220 --> 00:42:02,400 Institute, ie George Soros. I don't know about all of them, 594 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:02,700 though. 595 00:42:02,850 --> 00:42:08,280 That was Alicia. Garza. Okay. Yeah. And that's the one you 596 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,040 guys covered on the no agenda that she was really receiving 597 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:17,730 some money from some Chinese organization? Well, I think 598 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,430 we're saying you did some research on that as well. But 599 00:42:20,430 --> 00:42:24,240 let's not say I digress on that point. But if you're going to go 600 00:42:24,270 --> 00:42:28,650 to theory that he was silenced, big money will get you silenced 601 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,640 very quickly. This is a very black lives matter. And that's 602 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,890 why I'm harping on this. And just go, we're going going back, 603 00:42:37,890 --> 00:42:45,360 what's the goal for for why D re McKesson and Shaun King are 604 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:51,360 having this long standing beef, mm D Ray was in a position of 605 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:57,480 power. He had the blue vest he was on The Tonight shows. And lo 606 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:04,260 and behold, Sean Kane came in and replace them. At some point. 607 00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:09,480 Now derailed on the outside looking in, the women of Black 608 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,530 Lives Matter has moved on to bigger and better causes to 609 00:43:13,530 --> 00:43:20,400 fight. And he's left with only Twitter frame. Ah, now that's 610 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,570 not my words. Let me go to nine. Like I said, there's an article 611 00:43:24,570 --> 00:43:32,310 that came out this morning from Shaun King, and there was this 612 00:43:32,310 --> 00:43:38,850 was his reply. Let me find it. So in the beginning of his 613 00:43:38,850 --> 00:43:47,640 article, he mentions how he says I am not our Twitter account. 614 00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:51,330 When I look in the mirror in the morning, I don't see at Shaun 615 00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:55,800 king or a social media personality. I'm a husband to 616 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,800 the brilliant black woman I first met and fell in love with 617 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,410 1996. And that was and him saying that because Yeah. You 618 00:44:04,410 --> 00:44:06,240 picked up on that. Um, 619 00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:10,290 oh, yeah. Oh, yes. @MoeFactz, I hear you. 620 00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:21,390 Right. So, but he goes on to say, let me D Ray has been 621 00:44:21,390 --> 00:44:27,510 basically Ah, okay, here's a quote. D Ray is now mainly 622 00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:31,860 famous for being famous more than he is famous for actually 623 00:44:31,860 --> 00:44:37,050 doing real work that helps real people. And because his fame is 624 00:44:37,050 --> 00:44:44,040 mostly exclusively centered on Twitter. Got it? So he's saying 625 00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:50,340 we branched out we become real entities in the movement and 626 00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:53,550 poor deranged you know, he's a Twitter either Twitter celebrity 627 00:44:53,550 --> 00:44:59,190 right. And that's, that's, that's the fundamental beef 628 00:44:59,190 --> 00:45:02,430 right there. That's the fundamental beef right there. 629 00:45:02,430 --> 00:45:06,870 So, I know you guys are saying and everybody's saying, well, 630 00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:13,710 Mo, you come in with Fox News facts about soy, about soy rose 631 00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:16,140 and Black Lives Matter. No, I don't that 632 00:45:16,140 --> 00:45:19,920 guy actually looked it up. I remember looking at the form 990 633 00:45:19,950 --> 00:45:26,160 of Garza is a nonprofit and there it was Open Society 634 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,700 Institute. That's not Fox News. That's, you know, IRS filings? 635 00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:34,800 Well, as I always like to do, I like to bring balance, and we're 636 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,400 gonna list them Mr. De Patman, who was super progressive, he's 637 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:44,280 a Bernie bro. Ah, and he's gonna also make the claim that Black 638 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,870 Lives Matter is Soros funded? 639 00:45:46,020 --> 00:45:51,870 And I have a very, very specific idea that we need to explore 640 00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:56,070 seriously, which is that the anti Bernie Sanders tinge of the 641 00:45:56,070 --> 00:45:59,790 Black Lives Matter movement recently couldn't be George 642 00:45:59,790 --> 00:46:03,570 Soros funded astroturf, and I will speak as specifically as 643 00:46:03,570 --> 00:46:06,270 possible, Louis. And then I will allow you Lewis to tell me what 644 00:46:06,270 --> 00:46:09,930 you think about this. It's widely on record, that George 645 00:46:09,930 --> 00:46:14,700 Soros, the liberal billionaire has poured a ton of money into 646 00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:17,820 two movements that were instrumental in creating Black 647 00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:21,870 Lives Matter and the buzzword dating back to January, we knew 648 00:46:21,870 --> 00:46:26,520 that George Soros spent over $30 million bankrolling Ferguson 649 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,520 demonstrators and of course, Ferguson relates to Officer 650 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,420 Darren Wilson, who killed unarmed teenager Michael Brown 651 00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:37,440 and was ultimately not charged. This includes support by George 652 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,130 Soros of groups like color lines, news for action. 653 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,260 Organization for black struggle, which established itself then 654 00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:50,160 established the hands up coalition. Soros also gave money 655 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,970 to the Drug Policy Alliance, which worked on pushing Black 656 00:46:53,970 --> 00:46:57,300 Lives Matter as a bug buzzword, which has since been 657 00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:00,450 incorporated into speech speeches by political figures, 658 00:47:00,450 --> 00:47:01,740 including Hillary Clinton. 659 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,250 Now, tell me again about this. David Pakman. 660 00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:11,579 Dave Pakman, he's, he has almost 700,000 followers on YouTube. 661 00:47:11,668 --> 00:47:17,010 He's progressive. Is he white guy? White Guy, white guy. All 662 00:47:17,099 --> 00:47:22,263 right. Are you asking me a question? I last show about his 663 00:47:22,352 --> 00:47:27,427 black woke and White woke the same? Yeah. Oh, and this is 664 00:47:27,516 --> 00:47:32,946 where you can see where they can part ways. Because they have 665 00:47:33,035 --> 00:47:38,644 different genders this, and they have different agendas. And if 666 00:47:38,733 --> 00:47:44,164 they don't line up, they will attack each other. So this is a 667 00:47:44,253 --> 00:47:49,506 perfect example of that. Now, I guess other people may say, 668 00:47:49,595 --> 00:47:54,937 well, Moe, that's just two white guys saying that black guy. 669 00:47:55,026 --> 00:48:00,189 Black Lives Matter. Yeah. So that right so um, let's go to 670 00:48:00,278 --> 00:48:05,620 Mr. Lord Lord Jamal with Jamar brand Nubian fame rapper from 671 00:48:05,709 --> 00:48:06,600 the 1990s. 672 00:48:07,230 --> 00:48:08,670 blacker than that, that's. 673 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,060 Yeah. And let's listen to him speak on Black Lives Matter 674 00:48:15,060 --> 00:48:17,010 being somewhat supported by Soros? 675 00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:19,560 I don't know. I just thought that was weird shit. And I'm not 676 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:24,360 no Black Lives Matter supporter? No, absolutely not. Because it's 677 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,660 not our movement. This is a movement that was given to us 678 00:48:27,870 --> 00:48:36,120 by, you know, George Soros and his fucking boys. Because they 679 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,330 saw how things were going and they didn't want it to go back 680 00:48:39,330 --> 00:48:42,540 to the 60s to where we started having our own organic 681 00:48:42,540 --> 00:48:45,060 movements. That was a big fucking problem for them. So 682 00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:48,720 let's give the people of movement that we can control. 683 00:48:49,050 --> 00:48:52,350 We'll provide them the leaders and all of this type of shit. 684 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:59,160 And get that's the Black Lives Matter is look at the leaders of 685 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,570 Black Lives Matter or their leaders. Who could these lesbian 686 00:49:03,570 --> 00:49:10,620 women who are trying to incorporate you know? LG, 687 00:49:10,620 --> 00:49:14,340 whatever the fuck the letters are? incorporate those their 688 00:49:14,340 --> 00:49:19,320 concerns into black people's concerns. Go to the website, 689 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:19,920 look it up. 690 00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:27,690 Well, first, let's help. Lord Jamar, it's LGBTQ Q IAP K. And 691 00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:30,570 what's what strikes me about this clip what he said in the 692 00:49:30,570 --> 00:49:34,650 beginning is he sees this situation, which I agree with, 693 00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:39,480 pretty much as the dinner scene from the movie trick, baby. Mm 694 00:49:40,050 --> 00:49:42,810 hmm. Which is something that's coming back and the current 695 00:49:42,810 --> 00:49:45,300 theme of the show. Now you're 696 00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:50,640 saying it's all about control opposition? Oh, we have to 697 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,920 control. You know, the masses, and what do we do about how we 698 00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,390 do that? We put the leadership in front of them. Oh, Whether 699 00:50:00,390 --> 00:50:04,110 it's homegrown, it's two ways that happen that can grow the 700 00:50:04,110 --> 00:50:08,730 leadership from the ground up. Which that's, I think this is 701 00:50:08,730 --> 00:50:11,400 where the conservative conservatives and liberals 702 00:50:11,970 --> 00:50:20,280 deviate in mindset. A lot of your conservative type talking 703 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:25,650 heads are grown from the ground up. What liberals do is they say 704 00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:30,240 who's hot in the streets right now? And they say, Okay, well, 705 00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:32,910 that allows Mattis the move. Okay, here's what we're going to 706 00:50:32,910 --> 00:50:39,180 do. What's your number? And then they come in, they Co Op, don't 707 00:50:39,180 --> 00:50:41,790 they give him money? You know, they give him that. Like I said, 708 00:50:42,030 --> 00:50:45,720 DeRay Mckesson went from on Twitter. I remember seeing his 709 00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:51,240 god pop up. And I'm like, Who is this? I do this. And really what 710 00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:55,110 I mean by I'll do this. I'll see. I'll watch and I see, who 711 00:50:55,110 --> 00:50:58,950 are they putting up as movers and shakers. And when new people 712 00:50:58,950 --> 00:51:02,220 starting to pop up, I did the same thing with Obama, who is 713 00:51:02,220 --> 00:51:05,730 this guy? I never saw him in a jet. I never saw him in Ebony. I 714 00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:10,170 never, you know. And then you just pop up out of nowhere. Same 715 00:51:10,170 --> 00:51:14,280 thing with DeRay Mckesson? Who is this guy. Never seen you on 716 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,430 black YouTube. I never, you know, because it's a circuit, 717 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,730 you know, even you can go back because a lot of times this 718 00:51:20,730 --> 00:51:25,080 stuff was captured on VHS. And then it was later loaded up on 719 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,400 the YouTube, even pre YouTube. So a lot of these people have 720 00:51:29,490 --> 00:51:33,900 past history got history, right? So when you start digging in, 721 00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:37,260 like, I don't find anything on this guy, D Ray, I don't find 722 00:51:37,290 --> 00:51:40,980 anything on this guy, Shaun King. I don't find anything on 723 00:51:40,980 --> 00:51:44,160 these three ladies from Black Lives Matter. You know, they 724 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,700 didn't come up through the I wanted the big circuit is the 725 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,090 was the black bookstore circuit. That was kind of like the 726 00:51:51,090 --> 00:52:00,780 Chitlin Circuit for black. I'm black speakers and thinkers. You 727 00:52:00,780 --> 00:52:07,410 know, you every town that had a large or semi large black 728 00:52:07,410 --> 00:52:09,930 population had a black bookstore, where they would sell 729 00:52:09,930 --> 00:52:13,050 literature. And like on Saturdays, give me the inside 730 00:52:13,050 --> 00:52:17,340 baseball here, folks. On Saturday, often a person my 731 00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:23,520 pushing a book would come to speak at these of bookstores. 732 00:52:24,420 --> 00:52:28,320 And that's what the VHS to VHS tapes were pop up it. You don't 733 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,960 have that now because they can go straight to the people via a 734 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,490 YouTube or social media. So but that's what I'm saying. You have 735 00:52:35,490 --> 00:52:39,180 a legacy built up of saying, Okay, this guy's is an agent or 736 00:52:39,180 --> 00:52:41,700 he ain't agent you know, because you had to make your you know, 737 00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:45,150 you had to make your name and State Your Claim in those 738 00:52:45,150 --> 00:52:50,460 bookstores. These guys don't have any of that. So when I 739 00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:54,810 started to go do my homework almost as Lord Lord Jamar did. 740 00:52:54,990 --> 00:52:58,350 He's like, man, who the hell are the people? And I want to be 741 00:52:58,350 --> 00:53:03,870 clear. For certain people out there, they might hear this 742 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:13,110 tinge of black male versus the LGBT community. The problem with 743 00:53:13,110 --> 00:53:17,220 that, and I want to make this very clear is they've co opted 744 00:53:17,250 --> 00:53:20,970 us in so many ways. And when I say us the struggles of black 745 00:53:20,970 --> 00:53:24,840 people, specifically black men, to say, oh, yeah, we're just 746 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,760 like black people. Black people don't have a closet. We don't 747 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,900 have a closet that we ears. And I'm saying so it's very 748 00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:41,220 insulting. Now, on the other hand, you shouldn't be 749 00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:45,240 disrespectful, anybody's life choices. I believe that you 750 00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:47,760 know, to each his own whatever you're saying whatever you're 751 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,970 into, so we had to be respectful. But when somebody 752 00:53:50,970 --> 00:53:54,240 comes in and Co Ops, you know, the civil rights movement, they 753 00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:58,380 co opted that black lives matter, they co opted that not 754 00:53:58,410 --> 00:54:02,520 that we know black lives matter was only for 755 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,610 that. I'll give you another example. The Tea Party, which 756 00:54:05,610 --> 00:54:08,100 has nothing to do with black or white, although they're probably 757 00:54:08,130 --> 00:54:14,940 white people, which was started by Ron Paul, and this was 2008. 758 00:54:15,210 --> 00:54:19,770 And that got co opted massively. And there's still plenty ranch. 759 00:54:19,770 --> 00:54:24,030 Yeah. It's still a Tea Party has nothing to do with the original 760 00:54:24,030 --> 00:54:27,750 libertarian idea behind it. So yeah, the political movements 761 00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:29,820 get co opted all the time. 762 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,730 Yeah, but the problem is, it's the same people co opting our 763 00:54:35,730 --> 00:54:40,050 movements over and over and over again. And I'm not just talking 764 00:54:40,050 --> 00:54:45,390 about the 1990s I'm going all the way back to the Harlem 765 00:54:45,390 --> 00:54:50,220 Renaissance to the 1920s. That was fun, and I may have to do a 766 00:54:50,220 --> 00:54:50,790 later show. 767 00:54:51,060 --> 00:54:53,730 But you know, you just you got me with all you already got me 768 00:54:53,730 --> 00:54:56,760 with the black bookstores, which of course I didn't know about. 769 00:54:56,910 --> 00:54:59,610 Now I need to know about this movement in the 20s but that can 770 00:54:59,610 --> 00:55:01,650 be a step But show but I'm already intrigued. 771 00:55:02,190 --> 00:55:09,750 Just just as a teaser, one that the guy listed as the father of 772 00:55:10,290 --> 00:55:16,890 the Harlem Renaissance was hugely pro LGBT in that time, 773 00:55:17,130 --> 00:55:23,820 and I'll just leave it at that. Okay. So back to large, Mr. M. 774 00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:27,480 Let's listen to him continuing on about black lives matter. 775 00:55:27,810 --> 00:55:29,250 You see them say there's no real 776 00:55:29,250 --> 00:55:32,640 Why is he? There is leaders. This is what I'm telling you. 777 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,450 They're lesbians. They're black lesbians. 778 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:43,860 Key people are Shaun King. Who's, he's he's a writer for 779 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,540 New York. Daily News. 780 00:55:45,570 --> 00:55:48,900 I'm not talking about the key people go to the fucking website 781 00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:50,070 who runs the shit? 782 00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:56,790 Is their website. Right? And because when I looked at Black 783 00:55:56,790 --> 00:56:01,590 live BLM leader, the key people that there's no leader that 784 00:56:01,590 --> 00:56:04,410 that's listed, but the key people that are listed is Shaun 785 00:56:04,410 --> 00:56:07,740 King, DeRay, McKesson and Johnetta. 786 00:56:08,430 --> 00:56:15,330 Elzie. So as you're saying, their Lord Jamar said when he 787 00:56:15,330 --> 00:56:21,690 said Shaun King, who's that? Right? If he doesn't know you, I 788 00:56:21,690 --> 00:56:26,250 mean, you you have no credentials. I mean, because 789 00:56:26,250 --> 00:56:29,610 he's, his knowledge will be even more extensive than mine. I 790 00:56:29,610 --> 00:56:36,210 mean, by far, and two, who are the movers and shakers and pro 791 00:56:36,210 --> 00:56:42,660 black society? And he was like, Who's that? Oh, but as we see, 792 00:56:42,660 --> 00:56:50,910 fast forward. Just going back to the article that Shaun King 793 00:56:51,630 --> 00:57:00,780 wrote to Deray DeRay Mckesson. So here's why these things 794 00:57:00,780 --> 00:57:04,080 happen in the time that they happen and let me just spine to 795 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:09,390 you. Okay, Shaun King was being recognized by Rihanna. 796 00:57:09,870 --> 00:57:14,010 Ah, okay. This is the once you get into that, then you're up 797 00:57:14,010 --> 00:57:15,780 and up and into the new circles. 798 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:22,320 Right so they were having a boss she has a home 799 00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:33,300 see, it says Okay, going back to the article, direct chose to 800 00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:36,840 release a public attack against me hours before the diamond ball 801 00:57:37,530 --> 00:57:40,710 was vindictive, short sighted and destructive. So the diamond 802 00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:46,770 ball was a ball being hailed I'm about the Clara Lionel 803 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:53,370 Foundation which is Rihanna foundation so he didn't he goes 804 00:57:53,370 --> 00:57:57,450 on to say he says but because the race poor poorly, Tom, and I 805 00:57:57,450 --> 00:57:59,370 don't agree with that, I think it was x you're saying 806 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:05,010 Excellent. Excellently timed a op ed on the red carpet recall 807 00:58:05,010 --> 00:58:08,820 reporters, we read it guest about me and my presence. And 808 00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:12,570 instead of Rihanna and the foundation, or the diamond ball 809 00:58:12,570 --> 00:58:15,900 being the top, the trending topic in the country, it was de 810 00:58:15,900 --> 00:58:19,260 Ray and his attacks against me all night long. So now we're 811 00:58:19,260 --> 00:58:27,750 seeing Shaun king is in a, you know, an inner circle, not only 812 00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:31,020 you know, on black topics, but with celebrities. You know, 813 00:58:31,020 --> 00:58:35,370 you're getting honored by by Rihanna, and you're getting, 814 00:58:35,370 --> 00:58:39,930 you're saying, get invited to these balls. And not only that, 815 00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:43,860 but he's getting support by the one and only Cardi B 816 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,820 one of the main reason why it's so important for me to be here 817 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,290 is because Rihanna is honoring Shaun king. A lot of people need 818 00:58:52,290 --> 00:58:56,130 to follow Shaun King on Instagram. He protests so much 819 00:58:56,130 --> 00:59:00,120 for all minorities, he protests so much for the whole entire 820 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:05,010 world. And he's doing this thing right now. It's called um, vote 821 00:59:05,010 --> 00:59:07,680 for Senate. It's very important for people to go for Senate and 822 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,690 everything so we could do the wrong things in order to say 823 00:59:09,690 --> 00:59:11,160 because the Democrats already got 824 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:33,030 the house that's my black card right there. I practice for 825 00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:33,600 hours. 826 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,170 All right. So Well, hold 827 00:59:37,170 --> 00:59:40,620 on a second. You know, Cardi B is dumb. All right. She just 828 00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:45,840 dumb. I've seen Cardi B. I hear what she says she I mean, she's 829 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,600 an entertainer. She's funny to watch. He's got the hook. She's 830 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,930 got all that. Yeah, she's very entertaining to watch, but I 831 00:59:51,930 --> 00:59:53,370 don't think she's smart. 832 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,260 Wait a minute. I'm curry. You wait a minute, sir. Oh, here we 833 00:59:58,260 --> 01:00:03,330 go. According to Mr. de reyes articlemy Mr. Shah kings are 834 01:00:03,330 --> 01:00:08,970 cool. He says, quote, furthermore, a sexist dhimmis 835 01:00:08,970 --> 01:00:12,690 these massive assumption is being made about both Rihanna 836 01:00:12,690 --> 01:00:16,080 and Cardi B, you can their public and private support of 837 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:21,030 me. The assumption is that d Ray knows better than they do. And 838 01:00:21,060 --> 01:00:22,740 so sodas Adam curry. 839 01:00:22,770 --> 01:00:28,440 Yeah, well, I stand by my by my points here. 840 01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:34,320 All right, he says the inference is that Rihanna and Cardi B were 841 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,790 only better formed if they if they were only a little smarter, 842 01:00:39,180 --> 01:00:42,750 and only a little more won't like him. If they only knew what 843 01:00:42,750 --> 01:00:46,650 Twitter knows. They wind up with me quote, unquote, by the 844 01:00:46,650 --> 01:00:48,930 way, I don't I don't I don't think Rihanna is dumb. I think 845 01:00:48,930 --> 01:00:50,190 she's actually very smart. 846 01:00:50,820 --> 01:00:52,410 You fell right into the trap? 847 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:58,350 Of course I did. Living up to my dumb white game. It's all good. 848 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:08,070 All right. So to get to that level, you can see why D Ray is 849 01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:14,730 here. Yeah, he's, yeah. I'm gonna say let's get him being of 850 01:01:14,730 --> 01:01:19,740 the LGBT community. He's like this guy. Shaun King. Hangover. 851 01:01:19,740 --> 01:01:26,040 Rihanna, and Cardi B Yeah. And I'm sitting next own. That's the 852 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:36,000 art cume, that has to earn, um, but it's man. Um, but so now now 853 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,120 we're seeing while we're here, I went all the way around the 854 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,900 block to get us to the point of the beef. Now we understand the 855 01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:49,950 beef. Now, there has been some issues. Even Shaun King himself 856 01:01:49,950 --> 01:01:54,720 saying their biggest issues were his fundraising abilities. So 857 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,560 let's listen to fundraising fraud. Cain claims, one 858 01:01:58,620 --> 01:02:01,050 of one of the critiques of you is that you're good at creating 859 01:02:01,050 --> 01:02:04,320 stuff, good at building stuff, and good at fundraising for 860 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,800 stuff. But then somewhere between the conceptualization 861 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,160 and execution is a gap. Oh, that's true. That is probably 862 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,000 the best criticism of me that somebody can offer. Like I'm, 863 01:02:15,450 --> 01:02:20,580 I'm a natural starter. I'm a, I've been fundraising my entire 864 01:02:20,580 --> 01:02:25,560 life. And so I know how to pitch an idea. But I have struggled up 865 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,730 until the past two or three years to figure out how to start 866 01:02:29,730 --> 01:02:33,600 something, grow it and maintain it. And the organization that we 867 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,420 started real justice is probably the best thing I've ever been a 868 01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:36,750 part 869 01:02:36,750 --> 01:02:42,330 of. Real justice. So that's the real justice pack. When we spoke 870 01:02:42,330 --> 01:02:46,800 about before, yeah. So if you listen to say, Okay, so now, 871 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,890 Adam, you weren't venture capitalist. So let's look at 872 01:02:49,890 --> 01:02:53,640 this in the light of a venture capitalist. I believe so it's 873 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,200 correct. Is that correct statement? Well, you 874 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,320 mean, you mean, like Soros is even more hedge fund and venture 875 01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,100 capitalist? 876 01:02:59,340 --> 01:03:02,352 What I mean is, say something like, Okay, this is my 877 01:03:02,410 --> 01:03:06,002 understand how venture capitals work. Say, I have the MoeFacts 878 01:03:06,060 --> 01:03:09,420 app and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Right? 879 01:03:09,450 --> 01:03:12,270 Yeah. Okay. I'm a venture capitalist, I've 880 01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:15,150 right and I want you to, I want you to fund me, and they'll tell 881 01:03:15,150 --> 01:03:17,640 you, Okay, this is how it's going to work out them. You 882 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,880 know, it's going to be the best thing you know, ever. And all I 883 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,030 need you to do is throw your money in saying behind the 884 01:03:24,030 --> 01:03:26,220 project, and we're going to be, you know, saying we're going to 885 01:03:26,490 --> 01:03:27,270 change the world. 886 01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:30,120 Great. Great. So what is my return on my investment? 887 01:03:31,770 --> 01:03:36,720 Right? So but you give me the money, okay. So you say okay, 888 01:03:38,190 --> 01:03:40,290 all right, I believe you, I'm giving you the money, 889 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,750 you believe me the money and then I come back and you say, 890 01:03:42,750 --> 01:03:49,020 You know what? Me implementing this idea is my problem. You 891 01:03:49,020 --> 01:03:52,590 know, I can come up with him. I have great ideas. But you know, 892 01:03:52,590 --> 01:03:55,710 that money you gave me I just have problems with you know, 893 01:03:57,060 --> 01:03:59,970 implementing the idea. That's basically what this guy just 894 01:03:59,970 --> 01:04:05,010 said. Yeah, I need some more his last clip. Yeah, how can you? 895 01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:10,740 How would that work out and and I know I'm maybe comparing 896 01:04:10,770 --> 01:04:13,920 apples to oranges a little bit. But when you say you have an 897 01:04:13,950 --> 01:04:17,760 idea, or you have a you know, something that's going to change 898 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,990 the world, people invest in you, they expect some kind of like 899 01:04:21,990 --> 01:04:24,660 you'd like you just ask what's the return on my investment? 900 01:04:24,810 --> 01:04:27,690 Now, it might not be money, but you want to see results? Right? 901 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,740 Well, what we call this executing, executing, 902 01:04:31,740 --> 01:04:35,430 okay. Now, if I come back to you say, Wait, you know, Adam, my 903 01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:39,450 problem is really executing. Yeah. Right. Is that an 904 01:04:39,450 --> 01:04:40,680 acceptable excuse? 905 01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:44,610 No, that is not acceptable that in fact, the only reason to come 906 01:04:44,610 --> 01:04:47,190 back for more money with a venture capitalist is because I 907 01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:49,980 can make even more money if we keep pumping more into it. We 908 01:04:49,980 --> 01:04:53,400 can build more scale, but saying, I'm sorry, I couldn't 909 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,400 execute I need some more money is probably the worst thing you 910 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:56,880 could say. 911 01:04:57,660 --> 01:05:03,120 But that's what he just said. Ah, so it's clear to me be clear 912 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:09,210 this is from BT. This is from BT. And he got no pushback. 913 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:15,360 Nobody said, Well, you know, difference between like a dream 914 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,210 and ideas either you can actually, you know, materialize, 915 01:05:18,210 --> 01:05:22,740 it executes. Right execute, you can execute, but not he is 916 01:05:22,740 --> 01:05:27,150 acceptable excuse that he can't execute. And nobody gives him 917 01:05:27,150 --> 01:05:31,050 pushback. And I think that's what derailed saying, in his 918 01:05:31,050 --> 01:05:35,820 article is like, do you guys so much money? But we haven't seen 919 01:05:35,850 --> 01:05:40,890 anything? Change, right? We haven't seen any fruits, you 920 01:05:40,890 --> 01:05:45,090 know, fruit. So you're saying of this money? Or suppose it hard 921 01:05:45,090 --> 01:05:49,170 work. All right. So that's one thing he brought up in this, 922 01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:53,700 this this interview would be tea. Let's go to fundraising 923 01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:54,600 frogs too. 924 01:05:54,810 --> 01:05:59,430 But the truth is, because I am who I am, because I look how I 925 01:05:59,430 --> 01:06:03,090 look, there are doors that are open to me that sometimes 926 01:06:03,090 --> 01:06:06,960 shouldn't like, there are privileges and platforms that I 927 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:12,510 get, there is this degree of even like light skin privilege 928 01:06:12,510 --> 01:06:18,120 and accessibility. Like because I look how I look, that makes me 929 01:06:18,510 --> 01:06:23,820 more relatable to white people in white spaces. So what I have 930 01:06:23,820 --> 01:06:27,030 to do if I have some level of relatability that I didn't 931 01:06:27,030 --> 01:06:30,300 choose, I was born with it. I have to use it, I have to 932 01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:32,040 squeeze it have to maximize it. 933 01:06:35,340 --> 01:06:41,400 So Mr. Shawn King, the ones always preaching about privilege 934 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:46,410 this and privilege that he likes to use the recipient, recipient 935 01:06:46,830 --> 01:06:49,530 of light skinned privilege, and now this is 936 01:06:50,220 --> 01:06:53,370 baseball. This is a real category this light skinned 937 01:06:53,370 --> 01:06:55,350 privilege is called 938 01:06:55,350 --> 01:07:01,590 colorism. Oh, colorism now it is heavy, heavy in the black 939 01:07:01,590 --> 01:07:06,660 community is it is a real thing. It is but it's not exclusive to 940 01:07:06,660 --> 01:07:10,470 the black community. The reason why I say that is the Indian 941 01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:16,650 caste system is based off of colorism. When you go to Brazil, 942 01:07:16,860 --> 01:07:22,410 it's colorism. So what it is, is the lighter your skin is the 943 01:07:22,410 --> 01:07:28,530 more accessible or acceptable you are to white society. Now 944 01:07:28,530 --> 01:07:36,480 let me make the point out DeRay Mckesson is dark skin. Yeah. 945 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,150 Well, I was just sitting here just I was just reflecting I'm 946 01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:46,290 trying to think, how would I would I feel different? Getting 947 01:07:46,290 --> 01:07:51,450 a pitch from the light, light skin, or dark skin? And I was 948 01:07:51,450 --> 01:07:55,140 just I was contemplating it. I don't know. But I'm sure it 949 01:07:55,140 --> 01:07:56,490 exists. I'm sure it's real. 950 01:07:57,330 --> 01:08:01,830 I'm not saying I can't speak to how it is perceived from the 951 01:08:01,830 --> 01:08:08,970 white side. Oh, but some people in the black community I'm not 952 01:08:08,970 --> 01:08:12,900 gonna say all I never say all or anything. I believe that light 953 01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:17,730 skinned people have an easier life. Now where that hits me is 954 01:08:18,090 --> 01:08:21,840 I have two children and a brown skin and I have two children who 955 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:27,810 are light skin. I don't I don't think you know, I don't think 956 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,810 one gets privileged more than the other. But I think this 957 01:08:33,810 --> 01:08:37,320 thought is taught at an early age. And I think two things are 958 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:42,720 being conflated here. Well, MTV, okay, 959 01:08:42,750 --> 01:08:47,970 great. I'm sorry, just to interrupt you, MTV did a MTV 960 01:08:47,970 --> 01:08:53,040 decoded video where they say colorism is not racism? Do you 961 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:53,340 remember 962 01:08:53,340 --> 01:08:54,120 that clip? 963 01:08:55,980 --> 01:08:59,040 Vaguely. Do you want to just hear that for a second here how 964 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,900 the young people are being taught today we're 965 01:09:00,900 --> 01:09:02,490 talking about a mode of discrimination that 966 01:09:02,490 --> 01:09:05,010 predominantly impacts people of color. And you might be 967 01:09:05,010 --> 01:09:08,130 surprised hearing this from me. But this episode is not about 968 01:09:08,130 --> 01:09:11,850 racism. I'm talking about colorism. First, let's be clear 969 01:09:11,850 --> 01:09:15,240 about what the word colorism actually means. colorism is not 970 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,750 synonymous with racism. It's a form of discrimination based on 971 01:09:18,750 --> 01:09:22,140 skin color. And before you're like Wait, isn't that like the 972 01:09:22,140 --> 01:09:25,710 literal definition of racism? Hold on to your social 973 01:09:25,710 --> 01:09:28,530 constructs because we're gonna knock a few Damn. And today 974 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,960 we've got a special guest to help us with this demolition 975 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,450 project. Haley, let's break this one down. 976 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,870 Glad OKC as a Latino of color colorism is something I'm all 977 01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:39,570 too familiar with. Racism involves discrimination based on 978 01:09:39,570 --> 01:09:42,180 things such as skin color, but it's also dependent on power 979 01:09:42,180 --> 01:09:44,700 dynamics that becomes perpetuated by years of 980 01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:47,010 structural oppression. Black and Latino men getting longer 981 01:09:47,010 --> 01:09:50,430 sentences for the same crime is white men racism, black and 982 01:09:50,430 --> 01:09:53,610 Latino odds telling you to date light skinned men. colorism 983 01:09:53,700 --> 01:09:56,220 because we have to complete race with skin color. Sometimes 984 01:09:56,220 --> 01:09:58,650 distinguishing between colorism and racism can get tricky 985 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,580 colorism It sucks. This is one way racism and colorism are 986 01:10:02,580 --> 01:10:05,640 different systems of oppression favor white people, meaning 987 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,250 black people can technically be racist towards other black 988 01:10:08,250 --> 01:10:11,580 people. But clearly in this case, they can and do perpetuate 989 01:10:11,580 --> 01:10:14,580 colorism in their own communities, the discrimination 990 01:10:14,580 --> 01:10:18,300 is coming from inside of the house. Example number three 991 01:10:18,450 --> 01:10:20,880 language. This is a pretty common phrase people in Puerto 992 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,850 Rico and the Dominican Republic grow up with Katherine among 993 01:10:23,850 --> 01:10:25,830 Spanish speakers in the Caribbean. The word means 994 01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:28,890 someone low class or brutish, and descent by people of all 995 01:10:28,890 --> 01:10:31,620 colors and racial backgrounds. The word implies you're acting 996 01:10:31,620 --> 01:10:34,740 darker and both complexion and behavior, but the word itself 997 01:10:34,740 --> 01:10:36,600 carries a linguistic and cultural connection to 998 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,810 blackness, it shares roots with a South African racial slur, cat 999 01:10:39,810 --> 01:10:40,170 fear. 1000 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,450 Wow, there's a lot in there. 1001 01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:48,030 There's a lot in there. And we're conflating two things. 1002 01:10:48,060 --> 01:10:51,780 Yeah, we have to understand where that thought process comes 1003 01:10:51,780 --> 01:10:57,330 from. Okay, so too, okay. So if you have a group of dark skinned 1004 01:10:57,330 --> 01:11:01,950 people, the way you get light skin had to be through 1005 01:11:02,010 --> 01:11:08,070 interracial relations, sex. So that means that you have a 1006 01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:13,710 parent or lineage from white people. So that's where that 1007 01:11:13,710 --> 01:11:20,610 thought process comes from, of lighter skin privilege. And it's 1008 01:11:20,610 --> 01:11:28,830 a real thing, because going back not going back in slavery. The 1009 01:11:28,830 --> 01:11:34,560 master kids that were his kids by a slave would often be given 1010 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:39,840 their freedom. And so they created this subclass in black 1011 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,650 society where they were not quite white, but there were a 1012 01:11:43,650 --> 01:11:48,300 bunch of black people. And that's where it comes from. And 1013 01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:52,800 it's just a long story short, um, but you have the brown paper 1014 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:58,830 bag test you had the pencil test? Well, yeah, well, I'm 1015 01:11:58,830 --> 01:12:05,880 serious. Were in the late 1800s, early 1900s. You couldn't come 1016 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,510 to certain meetings are married to certain families, if you are 1017 01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:15,030 darker than a brown paper bag, brown paper bag. That's crazy. 1018 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,770 Wow, this is true. And Spike Lee's movie school days cover 1019 01:12:19,770 --> 01:12:23,100 this evening, sororities and fraternities were the same way 1020 01:12:23,220 --> 01:12:26,790 as well. If you go back and look at certain pictures from that 1021 01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:29,670 divine nine Greek fraternities I was telling you about, at a 1022 01:12:29,670 --> 01:12:33,090 certain time point, you will only see fair skinned people in 1023 01:12:33,090 --> 01:12:36,180 these organizations with certain hair textures, and they will 1024 01:12:36,180 --> 01:12:39,240 they won't marry white. So I will say if you were like skin, 1025 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,060 you wouldn't marry white, but you will only marry like skin. 1026 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,990 So, um, I 1027 01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:48,300 interrupted you, you were going to tell a personal story about 1028 01:12:48,300 --> 01:12:50,190 your kids. And I think I interrupted you. I'd love to 1029 01:12:50,190 --> 01:12:51,030 hear what you're gonna say, 1030 01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:59,040 Oh, well, like I said, it's I don't think people nowadays feed 1031 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:03,690 into colorism as much because like I say, I have brown skin, 1032 01:13:03,690 --> 01:13:06,090 children and light skinned children. I treat them equally I 1033 01:13:06,090 --> 01:13:09,990 make them equal responsible. But like I said, what we're dealing 1034 01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:16,260 with is from the past. These are these are very old mindsets. But 1035 01:13:16,710 --> 01:13:20,670 as you know, with any privilege, people want to point it out when 1036 01:13:20,670 --> 01:13:24,270 it doesn't benefit them, of course. And it's amazing that he 1037 01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:26,640 openly said, Oh yeah, I've benefited from light skinned 1038 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:32,610 privilege. But going back to the TED talks from the Black Lives 1039 01:13:32,610 --> 01:13:38,790 Matter. clips that we heard before there was one clip that 1040 01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:42,390 Miss Alicia Garza said that I found interesting. 1041 01:13:43,230 --> 01:13:46,920 The reality is that race in the United States operates on a 1042 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,580 spectrum from black to white doesn't mean that people who are 1043 01:13:50,580 --> 01:13:54,330 in between don't experience racism, but it means that the 1044 01:13:54,330 --> 01:13:58,470 closer you are to white on that spectrum, the better off you are 1045 01:13:58,650 --> 01:14:02,160 and the closer to black that you are on that spectrum, the worse 1046 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:02,790 off you are. 1047 01:14:04,050 --> 01:14:10,770 Yeah. So even she acknowledges it. So going back to I'm not I'm 1048 01:14:10,770 --> 01:14:15,930 not pro Deray I think he's honestly this is the snake 1049 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,790 eating its tail. situation. Yeah, I'm just standing about 1050 01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:25,230 looking like eggs but you knew this. I could have told you this 1051 01:14:25,230 --> 01:14:28,260 was gonna happen. I could have told you d Ray was gonna play 1052 01:14:28,260 --> 01:14:32,850 that. He was going to play the color risk card, which he hasn't 1053 01:14:32,850 --> 01:14:35,760 yet but I mean, really play but that's 1054 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,330 really reviving some old shit that has no place in society in 1055 01:14:39,330 --> 01:14:42,540 black society anymore, but yet it's being used. 1056 01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:52,620 Well, yeah, it's aggressive, great point. It but that goes to 1057 01:14:52,620 --> 01:14:57,900 show you that any privilege can be used even though it may not 1058 01:14:57,900 --> 01:15:01,560 be functional. I will Say this and I want to challenge you to 1059 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:09,870 do something is not only is not only in our minds, the mass 1060 01:15:09,870 --> 01:15:15,510 media has something to do with this. And the reason I say this 1061 01:15:15,540 --> 01:15:20,370 is watch television on a commercial, you will never see a 1062 01:15:20,370 --> 01:15:29,490 man with a woman darker than him except Barack Obama. Well, 1063 01:15:29,490 --> 01:15:32,040 that's why he got so many credentials in the black 1064 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:36,690 community. And he understood that. And he understood that. 1065 01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:43,530 He's, I have to go get, you know, the most system I can 1066 01:15:43,530 --> 01:15:47,850 find, and you know, and bathed in that. Yeah. Oh, Kamala 1067 01:15:47,850 --> 01:15:51,690 Harris. Yeah, colorism has an issue. She has a colorism 1068 01:15:51,690 --> 01:15:56,730 problem. She's darker than Cora. But she's lighter than Stacey 1069 01:15:56,730 --> 01:15:58,170 Abrams. Bingo. 1070 01:15:59,970 --> 01:16:02,010 Enjoy reach get off TV. 1071 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,930 But that's why Jerry gets away with murder. Yeah. Yeah, that's 1072 01:16:06,930 --> 01:16:09,990 why it's why are we getting away with murder? If Joy Reid was, 1073 01:16:10,020 --> 01:16:15,300 uh, okay, say Joy read compared to I, um, what's the lady's 1074 01:16:15,300 --> 01:16:16,920 name? It's always on CNN. 1075 01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:21,990 Anna of Cabrera. No, 1076 01:16:23,250 --> 01:16:25,530 no, no. She's bear skin. 1077 01:16:25,740 --> 01:16:27,300 Oh, Ray. 1078 01:16:29,790 --> 01:16:31,440 Right, right, right. Right. Um, 1079 01:16:31,530 --> 01:16:35,610 Angela, Angela. Rai, rai. Angela. Right. Why do I know all 1080 01:16:35,610 --> 01:16:37,380 these black people? Oh, come on. 1081 01:16:38,130 --> 01:16:39,720 Because she's a great Twitter man. 1082 01:16:41,790 --> 01:16:43,620 Angela, right. Yes, we got. 1083 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:52,140 Angela right was to say some of the things that darker skin 1084 01:16:52,140 --> 01:16:58,860 woman has said and you just said her name got off today. But Joy 1085 01:16:58,860 --> 01:17:01,830 Joy was the dark skinned lady for Ms. Embrace Joy read or read 1086 01:17:01,950 --> 01:17:06,210 if Jory. Drewery words would come out of Angela Ross. Now she 1087 01:17:06,210 --> 01:17:11,670 would be canceling. Let's be let's be clear on this. But when 1088 01:17:11,670 --> 01:17:17,280 you're dealing with why society, Shaun King says to get into make 1089 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,620 people feel more comfortable. And we're talking about liberals 1090 01:17:19,620 --> 01:17:23,610 here. Let's be we're not talking about conservatives. We're 1091 01:17:23,610 --> 01:17:27,540 talking about liberal, the most liberal thinking people he even 1092 01:17:27,540 --> 01:17:31,170 acknowledged that his light skin makes people feel more 1093 01:17:31,170 --> 01:17:38,160 comfortable. So that makes you wonder, okay. There, his light 1094 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:42,000 skin has become an issue clipped when 1095 01:17:42,660 --> 01:17:45,630 I have tremendous respect for the work that he's done. But 1096 01:17:45,630 --> 01:17:50,730 when you're if you hold yourself up to something, that is not 1097 01:17:50,730 --> 01:17:53,460 what you claim to be, then that's a problem if you're a 1098 01:17:53,460 --> 01:17:55,770 leader, not now, I'm not saying that he's doing that. But that 1099 01:17:55,770 --> 01:17:58,170 is what's in question now. And that's why this story is 1100 01:17:58,170 --> 01:18:00,570 newsworthy you here's what he said to me. So I asked him about 1101 01:18:00,570 --> 01:18:03,270 it, because there are all these claims about him. Whether he's 1102 01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:07,680 black, white, biracial, or whether he's was there a civil 1103 01:18:08,580 --> 01:18:11,820 hate crime that happened him back in 1995. And I said to him 1104 01:18:11,820 --> 01:18:13,950 last night, I said, What would you like to convey? And he said, 1105 01:18:14,460 --> 01:18:17,550 number one, this attack isn't about me so much, but about 1106 01:18:17,550 --> 01:18:19,920 derailing Black Lives Matter and the movement against police 1107 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,010 brutality. And he said number two, the reports are all lies. I 1108 01:18:23,010 --> 01:18:26,880 tried hard to debunk them and others have said as a and others 1109 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,060 have said that they are lies as well. And then he said I will 1110 01:18:30,060 --> 01:18:33,120 speak soon. And I asked him specifically I said you know are 1111 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,600 you legally black? Are you legally white? Or are you 1112 01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,300 biracial? Are you black or white? He says I am biracial. 1113 01:18:39,300 --> 01:18:41,220 And I said is that what it is on your birth certificate? 1114 01:18:41,370 --> 01:18:50,040 He did not answer I'm gonna say this. And I'm not a burglar. I 1115 01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,990 didn't see that birth certificate. I didn't say it. 1116 01:18:55,020 --> 01:19:02,220 Yeah, he. Shaun King. People go look at him. He never struck me 1117 01:19:02,220 --> 01:19:10,830 to be a black guy. He never want struck me to be black. As we 1118 01:19:10,830 --> 01:19:14,580 pointed out on this show, when you're good for the movement. 1119 01:19:16,050 --> 01:19:21,840 They give you a pass. Right? The reason why I say that is we 1120 01:19:21,870 --> 01:19:23,400 recall Miss Rachel dollars. 1121 01:19:26,490 --> 01:19:27,720 Oh, my favorite. 1122 01:19:28,260 --> 01:19:30,900 Well, Martha, I'll be honest with you until a few days ago, I 1123 01:19:30,900 --> 01:19:34,890 thought he was a white dude. I had no idea that he was 1124 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,490 pretending or telling people that he was black. And I know 1125 01:19:38,490 --> 01:19:41,010 some people out there are asking that very question that you just 1126 01:19:41,010 --> 01:19:43,260 had right now. Well, why does this matter? It matters because 1127 01:19:43,260 --> 01:19:46,440 for the past year, we have had heard this phrase white 1128 01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:50,340 privilege thrown around thrown in people's faces. It's been 1129 01:19:50,340 --> 01:19:53,970 used as a as a way to divide. I mean, this isn't Shaun King, by 1130 01:19:53,970 --> 01:19:56,820 the way isn't the first Rachel Dolezal Elizabeth Warren was the 1131 01:19:56,820 --> 01:19:59,940 first one Rachel Dolezal was the second Rachel Dolezal. And now 1132 01:19:59,940 --> 01:20:03,570 He's the third and it just seems incredibly ironic. 1133 01:20:04,500 --> 01:20:10,200 And he was born in Kentucky. And I was just I just brought up a 1134 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:15,150 picture, take a look at it. I mean, he could be Latino for all 1135 01:20:15,150 --> 01:20:17,880 I know. And even then he'd be very, very light skinned. 1136 01:20:19,260 --> 01:20:26,640 Very light skin. And if, like I said, he's never struck me to 1137 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,360 be. I mean, when I saw him, I didn't say that. Oh, that's a 1138 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,040 black guy. Um, 1139 01:20:33,660 --> 01:20:36,660 I'd like to see him with. I'd like to see him with his hair 1140 01:20:36,660 --> 01:20:40,110 longer than I'd get a better idea is to do the hair 1141 01:20:40,110 --> 01:20:45,330 test. And he and he's, he's did the chameleon thing. He's 1142 01:20:45,330 --> 01:20:50,730 embraced the black hairstyle, the mustache. Yeah, you know, 1143 01:20:51,300 --> 01:20:55,740 saying way Rachid dollars out, which was a 100, Complete 100% 1144 01:20:56,430 --> 01:21:01,800 Complete white woman. Don't remember when she put the braids 1145 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,490 in the skin tone, or Tanner, or however you want to call 1146 01:21:05,490 --> 01:21:09,930 it. She? She identified as black and she ran a local chapter of 1147 01:21:09,930 --> 01:21:12,750 the NAACP was fantastic. A great story. 1148 01:21:13,260 --> 01:21:19,650 But the So why did we counsel her. And Shaun King gets a pass 1149 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:19,920 because 1150 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,940 she, her parents came out and said she's white. And that's I 1151 01:21:23,940 --> 01:21:25,710 don't know, Shaun King's parents are. 1152 01:21:27,150 --> 01:21:33,150 Right. But for you to say, Ah, you don't bring for your birth 1153 01:21:33,150 --> 01:21:40,680 certificate. issues. But as we saw with Gandhi, as we saw with 1154 01:21:41,550 --> 01:21:48,570 Cesar Chavez, and we saw with it, as long as the imagery is 1155 01:21:48,570 --> 01:21:51,570 good for the movement, we'll give you a pass. And we knocked 1156 01:21:51,570 --> 01:21:54,540 out this is not only exclusive to Shaun King, the lady brought 1157 01:21:54,540 --> 01:22:03,210 up with with Elizabeth Warren. She got a pass. Oh. 1158 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,160 You mean the whole Pocahontas thing? Yeah, absolutely. She 1159 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:12,120 appropriating somebody whose culture? Yes. When she gets a 1160 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,660 pass because she's for the greater good. And this is this 1161 01:22:15,660 --> 01:22:18,240 is their thought pattern for the greater good. But 1162 01:22:19,260 --> 01:22:21,540 when you say the greater good, we're talking about the greater 1163 01:22:21,540 --> 01:22:25,020 good for the money that the pizza for the people who are 1164 01:22:25,020 --> 01:22:28,140 holding the money who are going to give the money. Right? They 1165 01:22:28,140 --> 01:22:29,880 are great for the movement 1166 01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:34,140 for the for the right for the greater good. If we can make the 1167 01:22:34,140 --> 01:22:38,040 story go away. And in the clip before the last one we played 1168 01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:42,120 that was Don Lemon. Now that he was supposed to press Shaun 1169 01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:46,920 king, but everybody has hands off. This is what I think 1170 01:22:47,220 --> 01:22:52,560 everybody has the hands off on Shaun King. Whenever you can 1171 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:57,810 motivate are the raising of $30 million. Yeah, you're gonna be 1172 01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:00,330 the money's going somewhere. Yeah, and you're the boss, 1173 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,100 you're not gonna you're not gonna you're not going to be 1174 01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:07,050 canceled and a is not exclusive to him. Because the same way. 1175 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,530 Elizabeth Warren Warren's not canceled because she's the front 1176 01:23:10,530 --> 01:23:13,800 runner for the Democratic nomination. She is the leading 1177 01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:21,180 woman candidate. And she wasn't canceled. But let's listen to 1178 01:23:21,810 --> 01:23:23,580 shocking dollars out too. 1179 01:23:23,700 --> 01:23:26,070 I mean, he had once suggested to a friend of mine, Lawrence 1180 01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:28,620 Jones, who was a black conservative that he wasn't 1181 01:23:28,620 --> 01:23:31,260 black enough somehow. I mean, I've watched this guy sit here 1182 01:23:31,260 --> 01:23:33,960 and call people white supremacist and use the term 1183 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,140 white privilege and throw around these terms. So yeah, if you're 1184 01:23:37,140 --> 01:23:39,390 going to kind of throw around those terms and be out in 1185 01:23:39,390 --> 01:23:42,810 someone's face as the judge and jury of blackness or whiteness. 1186 01:23:43,260 --> 01:23:46,110 And this comes up, and there are records showing that your dad is 1187 01:23:46,110 --> 01:23:48,630 white. Yeah, it does become an issue because it shows that it's 1188 01:23:48,630 --> 01:23:49,950 ironic and you're a hypocrite 1189 01:23:49,950 --> 01:23:53,100 and if the color doesn't matter, Endo, then why throw all of 1190 01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:55,920 those, you know those phrases around from him? 1191 01:23:57,210 --> 01:23:59,580 Well, I don't know what phrases you're referring to. But even 1192 01:23:59,580 --> 01:24:02,190 Jesus, when asked about his brother and his mother said, 1193 01:24:02,250 --> 01:24:05,400 those people that do my Father's will and obey what He says those 1194 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,580 of my brothers and sisters, about God being blessed and 1195 01:24:08,580 --> 01:24:12,720 standing with and you know, as much as I like to hear, Dana, 1196 01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:14,280 I'm gonna have to go with Jesus. 1197 01:24:16,710 --> 01:24:21,600 You can't can't argue that map. Now you you what you've just 1198 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:26,850 witnessed is a Mind Control technique presented by the Male 1199 01:24:26,850 --> 01:24:31,860 Speaker In this clip, to my control black people. As we've 1200 01:24:31,860 --> 01:24:34,560 listened before, who do we say was on the wall? 1201 01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:39,780 Yeah, we got Jesus we get well now or before, before before 1202 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,820 MLK. Malcolm 1203 01:24:41,820 --> 01:24:45,690 X. News? No, it was Malcolm X JFK, 1204 01:24:45,780 --> 01:24:49,170 JFK and Jesus. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're right. And now replaced 1205 01:24:49,170 --> 01:24:50,970 by Oprah. Beyonce. 1206 01:24:52,350 --> 01:24:55,860 Is Jesus still there? Now, now he was replaced. 1207 01:24:58,050 --> 01:24:58,770 Serena Williams 1208 01:24:59,700 --> 01:25:03,030 Well, You know, I gotta say she is kind of Jesus. I'll give her 1209 01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:03,630 that. Right. 1210 01:25:04,140 --> 01:25:08,490 So, but as you're saying it was that was that was a deliberate? 1211 01:25:08,820 --> 01:25:15,180 Yeah, Mind Control answer to say it, you're saying energy Jesus. 1212 01:25:16,050 --> 01:25:20,760 And so the conversation to I hate to say the word again, to 1213 01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,750 my control black people, right now Jesus said Who's my brother 1214 01:25:24,750 --> 01:25:29,160 who's my mother? You know, how does that even equate? And in a 1215 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:36,480 previous back and forth between these two people? He interjected 1216 01:25:37,290 --> 01:25:41,820 MLK talking points. Yeah. Okay. So he said he's using the 1217 01:25:41,820 --> 01:25:46,110 triggers he was he was triggering black people 100% 1218 01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:49,200 Because he says, It's not about the color your skin but the 1219 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:53,700 context of your character. Yeah. Oh, hi. So this guy was It was 1220 01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:57,420 disgusting. It was disgusting what he did there. And you see 1221 01:25:57,420 --> 01:26:02,790 they're pulling all stops out to protect Shaun king. But Malcolm 1222 01:26:02,820 --> 01:26:09,480 X warned us about people like Shaun King, and how liberals 1223 01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:10,800 will use them 00. 1224 01:26:11,850 --> 01:26:15,150 I'm suspicious of whites who join negros and always have to 1225 01:26:15,150 --> 01:26:18,030 be in the league, who always have to be the head who always 1226 01:26:18,030 --> 01:26:22,200 have to be at the top in Negro organizations, those whites who 1227 01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,780 really have the interest of blacks at heart, let them give 1228 01:26:24,780 --> 01:26:27,660 some advice to some negros and stand on the sidelines. But 1229 01:26:27,660 --> 01:26:30,390 don't join the organization and then get out ahead of it, and 1230 01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:32,610 pose as a friend of negros. Today, 1231 01:26:32,610 --> 01:26:35,760 you could point to a large number of negro leaders who have 1232 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,910 consistently betrayed negros and a whole host of era, 1233 01:26:38,940 --> 01:26:41,400 they aren't really negro leaders, these are puppets that 1234 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,830 have been put in front of the Negro community by white 1235 01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:47,100 liberals. These are parents that have been put in front of the 1236 01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:50,820 Negro community by white liberals, you can't name me, a 1237 01:26:50,820 --> 01:26:54,330 negro leader who has been a negro leader who has been 1238 01:26:54,330 --> 01:26:57,630 betrayed who has betrayed Negroes who is not who has not 1239 01:26:57,630 --> 01:27:02,460 been endorsed, sanction, subsidized and supported 1240 01:27:02,610 --> 01:27:06,300 by the white number. Yeah, that sounds like Malcolm X, that's 1241 01:27:06,300 --> 01:27:06,810 for sure. 1242 01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:13,500 So to bring out the point, and what he's saying is, before we 1243 01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:18,750 can even get off the ground, we have to always deal with these 1244 01:27:18,750 --> 01:27:25,290 infiltrators. Oh, and this is what the claim that directors 1245 01:27:25,290 --> 01:27:30,420 making not that he's a white guy or anything like that, but just 1246 01:27:30,420 --> 01:27:33,660 that this guy's misappropriating funds, he's stealing money, you 1247 01:27:33,660 --> 01:27:39,360 know, he's disingenuous these things is only what C D Re is 1248 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:44,970 self serving. Where are you at? When you're waha, hop, right. 1249 01:27:45,810 --> 01:27:49,620 And let's not forget, we started clips before D Ray was accused 1250 01:27:49,620 --> 01:27:54,060 of the same thing, misappropriating funds, stealing 1251 01:27:54,060 --> 01:27:57,120 Shawn from the people on the ground of Ferguson. So like I 1252 01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:03,690 said, this is the snake eating its tail. So this, this is where 1253 01:28:03,690 --> 01:28:10,980 we're at with this story. But as I did some more digging, as I 1254 01:28:10,980 --> 01:28:20,460 always do. I found out I found a potential smoking gun, Tom 1255 01:28:20,460 --> 01:28:21,720 Joyner Shaun King one. 1256 01:28:21,990 --> 01:28:25,200 But the most important thing we can do, I'm going to shave most 1257 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:29,160 of my work on this and 2018 The most important thing we can do 1258 01:28:29,340 --> 01:28:34,620 is to let the progressive woke, conscious, reform minded 1259 01:28:34,620 --> 01:28:39,330 prosecutors. No single individual plays a bigger role 1260 01:28:39,330 --> 01:28:42,060 in the criminal justice system in this country than the 1261 01:28:42,060 --> 01:28:43,050 district attorney. 1262 01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:48,690 Ah, I knew you'd get to the Soros sisters eventually. Love 1263 01:28:48,690 --> 01:28:52,920 it. That is you. Right. That is ground zero right there when 1264 01:28:53,010 --> 01:28:57,810 that's come out. Kamala Harris, that's who's in Chicago. I mean, 1265 01:28:57,810 --> 01:28:58,650 it's everywhere now. 1266 01:28:58,770 --> 01:29:05,640 Kim Fox, Kim Fox, yes. I have a list of like 1015 names. And 1267 01:29:05,700 --> 01:29:10,260 like I said these things. These people are aligning on one 1268 01:29:10,260 --> 01:29:16,740 agenda. That's two what two agendas, but one is here that 1269 01:29:16,740 --> 01:29:22,230 illustrate one the flipping the House and the Senate. As you've 1270 01:29:22,230 --> 01:29:27,030 heard Cardi B say, she said we Yep. We got. Yeah. She said we 1271 01:29:27,060 --> 01:29:33,810 know she said we got out. Right. And now. You have a Shaun King, 1272 01:29:34,500 --> 01:29:39,090 who's on Tom's doing a radio show. With Tom Joyner. 1273 01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:43,470 I remember I have high high regard for Tom Joyner. I'm 1274 01:29:43,470 --> 01:29:46,830 hoping that he pushed back on Shaun King in this interview. 1275 01:29:47,850 --> 01:29:55,140 Hell no. You know, why? Don't you know why? Tom Joyner is a 1276 01:29:55,140 --> 01:29:58,050 business associate of news one. 1277 01:29:58,110 --> 01:30:01,680 Wow. No. Okay, guys. Got it. Radio One. Yeah. 1278 01:30:01,860 --> 01:30:06,330 Now you've heard why the first clip was so important. Oh, yes. 1279 01:30:06,330 --> 01:30:08,580 So protective of Shaun king. 1280 01:30:09,150 --> 01:30:12,330 And I liked Tom Joyner. Oh, man. 1281 01:30:15,210 --> 01:30:19,620 But Tom Joyner, he's, he's all nonsense. I mean, not saying 1282 01:30:19,620 --> 01:30:24,030 like that, but he's not trying to pick fights. He's not trying 1283 01:30:24,030 --> 01:30:28,500 to make enemies in high places. He gets shot to the platform. 1284 01:30:28,500 --> 01:30:32,550 You come on, you say your spiel, you know, you know, I'm not 1285 01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:35,730 gonna push why this point in his career with Tom during the push 1286 01:30:35,730 --> 01:30:38,310 back. Now, you could look it on University. What do you have to 1287 01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:39,450 lose? Right? 1288 01:30:39,750 --> 01:30:44,040 But why now? These kinds of people? The OG Charlemagne in a 1289 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:44,400 way, 1290 01:30:45,210 --> 01:30:52,680 right? That's I'm learning Yes. Yeah. Yes, yes. And just to go 1291 01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:58,800 to show you why we say why is black right now we have we us 1292 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,920 another common themes in the show that we were doing here or 1293 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:08,160 this conversation, repeatedly is black radio. Yeah. Black radio 1294 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:17,010 is so influential and black culture. Because it's access to 1295 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:23,580 free entertainment. In your car, as you set your dance, yeah. You 1296 01:31:23,580 --> 01:31:28,740 know, um, and it's kind of waning now. Oh, you are you 1297 01:31:28,740 --> 01:31:31,860 know, satellite radio with satellite radio when people with 1298 01:31:32,820 --> 01:31:36,360 cords and Bluetooth? You know, it's kind of at answer black 1299 01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:40,080 radio, but black radio at one time was the end all be all? 1300 01:31:40,590 --> 01:31:47,430 Oh, for sure. And when I worked in New York, the C 100. Which 1301 01:31:47,460 --> 01:31:51,300 for sure. Cracker White Station? You know, the the biggest 1302 01:31:51,300 --> 01:31:56,700 competition was BLS was K to you. I mean, yeah, the black 1303 01:31:56,700 --> 01:31:59,910 radio was as always been very successful in urban markets for 1304 01:31:59,910 --> 01:32:04,110 sure. Because it's, it's access free access. Yeah. 1305 01:32:04,140 --> 01:32:08,490 Um, with the FM radio, you can dive right in. And if you need 1306 01:32:08,490 --> 01:32:14,490 to put a talking points out there. It is free over the radio 1307 01:32:14,490 --> 01:32:20,040 waves. So now we see from the beginning, the first clip to the 1308 01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:27,660 end. Shaun King is the eighth guy. Yeah, he's he's the IT guy. 1309 01:32:27,660 --> 01:32:29,910 He's protected. Because I when I heard that first clip, I was 1310 01:32:29,910 --> 01:32:35,070 like, why is this guy? He's not even being fair. You know, I'm, 1311 01:32:35,340 --> 01:32:38,310 you know, giving both sides of the story because I read both 1312 01:32:38,340 --> 01:32:41,970 articles. And I was waiting for him to drop some of the talking 1313 01:32:41,970 --> 01:32:46,500 points of D array. And it wasn't there. It was all well, Shawn, 1314 01:32:46,500 --> 01:32:53,010 you know, job seven, two page report and everything. Nothing 1315 01:32:53,010 --> 01:32:56,430 to see here. Seven panels sandwich seven person panel was 1316 01:32:56,430 --> 01:33:00,240 being cleaned up, nothing to see here. So I'm like, why is that? 1317 01:33:00,780 --> 01:33:03,810 And then and then when I looked at I was at our radio. I mean, 1318 01:33:03,810 --> 01:33:10,200 news one is a product of radio one. And then that's why it's 1319 01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,010 just a little behind the scenes. I was freaking out when right 1320 01:33:14,010 --> 01:33:19,380 before we were doing the show. Because the podcast monsters 1321 01:33:19,380 --> 01:33:21,690 didn't want me to have that clip. I just play. 1322 01:33:22,950 --> 01:33:26,760 It was trying not to get on the air. But we got it. Yeah, 1323 01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:34,200 right. We shut him down. I mean, because now you see. He is part 1324 01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:39,570 of the star Oh, sisters apparatus. Now why? Why is that? 1325 01:33:39,570 --> 01:33:42,660 I don't know. But maybe he'll shine light on Tom Joyner is 1326 01:33:42,660 --> 01:33:43,290 part two, 1327 01:33:43,500 --> 01:33:48,150 our nation has 2300 of them operating in every county and in 1328 01:33:48,150 --> 01:33:53,010 every medium to large city in America. No roll. No bigger 1329 01:33:53,010 --> 01:33:57,450 person has a larger impact on who goes to jail and who 1330 01:33:57,450 --> 01:34:01,290 doesn't. Who gets prosecuted and who doesn't? Then the district 1331 01:34:01,290 --> 01:34:05,820 attorney, no single person plays a bigger role in whether or not 1332 01:34:05,820 --> 01:34:09,300 corrupt and violent police are not only charged with crimes, 1333 01:34:09,450 --> 01:34:14,640 but also get convicted, then the DEA, they are essential. And let 1334 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,640 me tell you something that's both shocking and disgusting. 1335 01:34:18,660 --> 01:34:24,660 Over the 2300 elected TAs in the United States, 95% of those 1336 01:34:24,660 --> 01:34:30,420 elected TAs are white. And 81% of them are white men in a 1337 01:34:30,420 --> 01:34:36,120 nation that's on its way to becoming a country of color. 95% 1338 01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,820 of district attorneys are white, and they are largely 1339 01:34:38,820 --> 01:34:42,330 conservative. It may very well be the whitest most 1340 01:34:42,330 --> 01:34:45,870 conservative, male dominated profession in America, 1341 01:34:46,620 --> 01:34:48,870 then I'm sure that's absolutely right. 1342 01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:55,230 So let me ask this question. So 95% are white right so that 1343 01:34:55,230 --> 01:35:01,680 means 5% of non white have their fiber sent Kamala Harris was one 1344 01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:08,490 of those 5% How does she do anything different? Then, you 1345 01:35:08,490 --> 01:35:10,410 know, when she's liberal, because he brought up 1346 01:35:10,410 --> 01:35:17,670 conservative, she's a female, black liberal. What she locked 1347 01:35:17,670 --> 01:35:23,070 up people use people first, basically slave labor. Oh, so 1348 01:35:23,070 --> 01:35:26,370 what's different? Well, I mean, what do you expect different as 1349 01:35:26,370 --> 01:35:30,240 long as he you know, I don't understand. Well, what is the 1350 01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:30,540 goal? 1351 01:35:30,570 --> 01:35:33,150 When she does it? At least she looks friendly. wished he was 1352 01:35:33,150 --> 01:35:33,300 she? 1353 01:35:34,950 --> 01:35:40,050 I think I think that's I don't understand what we expect 1354 01:35:40,050 --> 01:35:40,740 differently. 1355 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,830 Well, let me let me get let me take another take a stab at 1356 01:35:43,830 --> 01:35:48,600 this. Because, you know, it's always Oh source this source 1357 01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,810 that and on the no agenda show, we've talked about this, 1358 01:35:52,440 --> 01:35:58,020 ultimately, very rich, the rich elites want want to control 1359 01:35:58,020 --> 01:36:03,570 chaos, so they can protect their own shit. And that's ultimately 1360 01:36:03,570 --> 01:36:06,060 what they want. They want to be able to control it. Now, in this 1361 01:36:06,060 --> 01:36:10,230 case, it's more of the same, except you better believe that 1362 01:36:10,230 --> 01:36:12,360 Kamala Harris is under control. 1363 01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:18,510 I totally agree with you. And as you brought up on the no agenda 1364 01:36:18,510 --> 01:36:21,390 show, and maybe let's just having heard this talking point. 1365 01:36:21,810 --> 01:36:25,920 Now we're starting to see these more liberal da saying, well, 1366 01:36:26,340 --> 01:36:32,010 anything under $1,000 Right are really a crime. You're so right. 1367 01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:39,540 So, okay, now, if I'm a poor person living in a poor 1368 01:36:39,540 --> 01:36:43,260 neighborhood, which crime happens very high, and we're 1369 01:36:43,260 --> 01:36:48,270 seeing a high rate that $1,000 affects me differently than if 1370 01:36:48,270 --> 01:36:53,400 I'm, you know, some I'm one of these people that make combined 1371 01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:58,410 income of 350k limit in the same gentrified neighborhoods. I was 1372 01:36:58,410 --> 01:37:00,540 just partying. I was just reparations or whatever. Oh, no, 1373 01:37:00,540 --> 01:37:00,660 it's 1374 01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,720 it's completely bullcrap. And you know, California, certainly, 1375 01:37:07,770 --> 01:37:10,470 Los Angeles, and I think San Francisco as well have have 1376 01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:12,960 ordinances where it's like anything, and I think it's, it's 1377 01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,530 750 or 1000. But it's like anything. We're not even going 1378 01:37:16,530 --> 01:37:18,690 to show up and the cops aren't going to show up not going to do 1379 01:37:18,690 --> 01:37:22,500 anything. Can't deal with it. It's what a crime of necessity I 1380 01:37:22,500 --> 01:37:27,030 think is the term. Yeah. Which is lawlessness, really. 1381 01:37:27,420 --> 01:37:35,370 So But now, I'm going to put my conspiracy tinfoil hat on. If 1382 01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:39,900 I'm trying to get rid of poor people, and Prom real estate. 1383 01:37:42,690 --> 01:37:46,470 And I can't drive them out. You know what raising prices? What's 1384 01:37:46,500 --> 01:37:49,650 what's the first vehicle to rent people out a neighborhood? 1385 01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:50,790 crime, crime, crime? 1386 01:37:50,820 --> 01:37:58,620 high crime? You got it? Wow. It's so cynical, man. It's so 1387 01:37:58,620 --> 01:37:59,400 cynical. 1388 01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:07,170 Ah, no. But that's the only that's the only the only way I 1389 01:38:07,170 --> 01:38:10,800 can look at it is. We've seen it with the crack era, we've seen 1390 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:15,090 it with other influx of crime, you know, they're gonna let 1391 01:38:15,090 --> 01:38:18,630 crime happen. It drives them out of prom real estate areas that 1392 01:38:18,630 --> 01:38:23,280 have taken over by poor minorities. That is not a black 1393 01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,400 thing, you know, poor poor people in general. And if we 1394 01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:30,240 can't force them out, you know, it gentrification has got to get 1395 01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,340 in there black out right now. So we can't, you know, just 1396 01:38:32,340 --> 01:38:35,910 gentrify them. Right. To make them leave. Well, crime them up. 1397 01:38:35,940 --> 01:38:38,730 Yep. Yeah, we crowd them out. And then you know, oh, well, 1398 01:38:38,730 --> 01:38:40,980 liquid, they did their own communities. And 1399 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,040 yeah, and I'm sure the redistricting, which is always 1400 01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:48,540 done in the guise of we, you know, like, Oh, we got to screw 1401 01:38:48,540 --> 01:38:50,760 the Republicans or the Republicans are trying to screw 1402 01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:56,100 us, but this would be another great way to district crime into 1403 01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:58,980 certain ads. It's an eye opener. 1404 01:38:59,910 --> 01:39:03,420 For sure. Yeah. Well, I can't wait till Kamala Harris 1405 01:39:03,420 --> 01:39:05,460 is our president, it's gonna be great. 1406 01:39:06,810 --> 01:39:07,890 That'll never happen. 1407 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:13,256 Wow, Moe. This was good, man. This was good. I got a couple of 1408 01:39:13,311 --> 01:39:16,286 things to look into. But definitely, I wonder what the 1409 01:39:16,341 --> 01:39:19,647 next round is going to be of this, this medium fight because 1410 01:39:19,702 --> 01:39:22,788 you know, they've moved it beyond Twitter. Personally, I 1411 01:39:22,843 --> 01:39:26,094 think the people will tune out pretty soon. If they're, you 1412 01:39:26,149 --> 01:39:29,455 know, if they're, if they want to get in depth, they have to 1413 01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:32,706 read 70 pages of financial reporting. And you know, that's 1414 01:39:32,761 --> 01:39:35,847 kind of that's not how you change public opinion. That's 1415 01:39:35,902 --> 01:39:38,547 not how things change, typically, unless there's 1416 01:39:38,602 --> 01:39:41,853 illegality that can be proven, but I haven't seen that yet. 1417 01:39:41,908 --> 01:39:42,900 From this back and 1418 01:39:42,900 --> 01:39:47,640 forth. Well, the 72 page report works perfectly because he's 1419 01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,490 like, I dropped a 72 page report. It's all there, right? 1420 01:39:50,490 --> 01:39:54,510 Shut up. But you bury whatever is there because people like 1421 01:39:54,510 --> 01:39:58,020 Greg got to gloss over by page one or two. Yeah. And just 1422 01:39:58,020 --> 01:40:01,470 another example of these mediums. articles are great for 1423 01:40:01,710 --> 01:40:04,530 screenshotting and then posting on Twitter. That's how that's 1424 01:40:04,530 --> 01:40:07,740 how that thing works. You post it there, then you highlight 1425 01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:09,930 something you say you screenshot it, and you post it back on 1426 01:40:09,930 --> 01:40:10,290 Twitter. 1427 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:15,630 Yeah, you're right. You're right. Wow. Well Moe, thank you 1428 01:40:15,630 --> 01:40:20,070 very much for for a yet again, an hour and a half of just 1429 01:40:20,370 --> 01:40:21,690 fantastic stuff. 1430 01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,740 I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I hope all the listeners enjoy it 1431 01:40:25,740 --> 01:40:29,880 as well. And they find out you in it. So yeah, 1432 01:40:30,540 --> 01:40:34,860 you burst my bubble here when it comes to Tom Joyner. I'm a radio 1433 01:40:34,860 --> 01:40:39,090 guy. You know, Tom Joyner is famous for doing two stations in 1434 01:40:39,090 --> 01:40:42,990 one day flying back and forth. I mean, he's a fantastic radio 1435 01:40:42,990 --> 01:40:45,570 guy. But now that I hear that he's all in. That's 1436 01:40:45,570 --> 01:40:55,470 disappointing. Oh, he's, he's off the Christmas list. All 1437 01:40:55,470 --> 01:40:58,170 right, well, thank you very much. Actually, I should back 1438 01:40:58,170 --> 01:41:00,750 this up for a second, I need to remind everybody that you need 1439 01:41:00,750 --> 01:41:05,970 to go to MoeFactz.com. To find out everything that's happening 1440 01:41:05,970 --> 01:41:08,160 with the show, but most importantly, to donate, you can 1441 01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,670 hear the amount of time that this put into this program. What 1442 01:41:11,670 --> 01:41:15,210 do you value that at? What do you spend your time on? 1443 01:41:15,210 --> 01:41:18,210 Otherwise, if you spend an hour and a half somewhere for 1444 01:41:18,210 --> 01:41:21,450 entertainment or some education, that's the kind of value I think 1445 01:41:21,450 --> 01:41:24,180 you should place on the work that's being done here, then I 1446 01:41:24,180 --> 01:41:28,530 certainly really appreciate it. I've learned every day. The gray 1447 01:41:28,530 --> 01:41:29,700 is getting darker 1448 01:41:32,820 --> 01:41:35,700 and we're not funded by anybody. Let's just put that out there. 1449 01:41:35,730 --> 01:41:38,220 Oh, yeah. So you got to be funded. We got to be funded by 1450 01:41:38,220 --> 01:41:38,640 you guys. 1451 01:41:38,670 --> 01:41:42,450 That's right. This is Moe Factz with Adam curry episode number 1452 01:41:42,450 --> 01:41:45,300 seven MoeFactz.com. Thanks again. Moe 1453 01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,680 All right, thank you Adam. As always say pay attention to 1454 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,600 everything and the truth will reveal itself. 1455 01:41:52,110 --> 01:41:53,580 See you next week everybody. 1456 01:41:54,210 --> 01:41:57,720 You really don't understand. Hey, man, don't you realize not 1457 01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,330 a first to make this thing work man. We've got to get rid of 1458 01:42:00,330 --> 01:42:03,420 them. Tamsin pushes into prostitutes and it's not all 1459 01:42:03,420 --> 01:42:04,410 over again clean 1460 01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:08,078 nobody's pushing me anyway okay. I mean that you not the cops 1461 01:42:08,128 --> 01:42:11,018 nobody man I mean you want to get rid of the pushes out to 1462 01:42:11,068 --> 01:42:13,260 help you but don't send your people after me 1463 01:42:14,430 --> 01:42:53,315 Come on John can you see that we can't get rid of one without 1464 01:42:53,953 --> 01:43:34,113 getting rid of the other we got to come down on both of them at 1465 01:43:34,750 --> 01:44:12,361 the same time in order for this whole thing to work for the 1466 01:44:12,999 --> 01:44:42,960 people nobody's closing me out of our business.