1 00:00:10,050 --> 00:00:14,370 Moe Factz with Adam Curry for ebruary 23 2021. This is 2 00:00:14,370 --> 00:00:18,900 pisode number 59. It's been a hile we had a little bit of a 3 00:00:18,930 --> 00:00:22,560 limate challenge down south. 'm Adam Curry in Austin, Texas 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,140 nd my friend on the other end omewhere in Northern Virginia 5 00:00:25,140 --> 00:00:28,740 adies and gentlemen, Mr. Mo acts 6 00:00:32,430 --> 00:00:33,330 I'm in the groove man. 7 00:00:36,780 --> 00:00:41,640 Mo Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. You said you 8 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:42,690 were in the group. So I was 9 00:00:45,090 --> 00:00:48,480 like, What did I do? Did I scare him off? Yeah, I was like, oh, 10 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:50,190 song don't disrupt this group. 11 00:00:52,020 --> 00:00:54,600 Thank you. No, I was just bumping and bopping along. Oh, 12 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,610 yeah, I can do this. I do a mo. I'm doing well. You all thought 13 00:00:59,610 --> 00:01:04,260 out? Yeah, we've got electricity restored. That was out for a 14 00:01:04,260 --> 00:01:08,610 couple days. And oh, man, that was right. That's kind of 15 00:01:08,610 --> 00:01:12,240 happened. Right? Those days when you're supposed to record a 16 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,810 couple days before actually. And then, you know, everyone's pipes 17 00:01:15,810 --> 00:01:19,170 were blowing up. And so ours didn't Luckily, but we did have 18 00:01:19,170 --> 00:01:22,620 to boil water for a couple of days. And that made grocery 19 00:01:22,620 --> 00:01:25,830 shopping tough because you can't have any produce and no 20 00:01:25,830 --> 00:01:29,250 restaurants are open. But we're, we're Texans. And now it's you 21 00:01:29,250 --> 00:01:32,700 know, 70 degrees. Everything's fine. As if nothing happened is 22 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:35,940 the weirdest thing. Yeah, merge and sharpen. Everyone's back to 23 00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:40,530 normal. Oh, well, that was that. And I felt kind of bad cuz the 24 00:01:40,530 --> 00:01:43,710 last show was teasing you about your 31 degrees. 25 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,520 Well, yes, you did. You damned us. Mo you you put you put a 26 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,890 curse on us. But you experienced experiencing ice again. So 27 00:01:57,330 --> 00:01:59,490 that was a it was interesting to be in. 28 00:02:00,810 --> 00:02:04,860 To be in the crisis zone for real for once. But everything's 29 00:02:04,860 --> 00:02:08,040 good. Everyone's safe. Everybody we know is safe. Yeah. Everyone 30 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,180 helped each other out. Well, all good. One little thing I did 31 00:02:12,180 --> 00:02:17,010 notice about your experience in Texas. Yeah, they didn't have a 32 00:02:17,010 --> 00:02:20,520 catchy name for it. Or I didn't hear one. Did they have that 33 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,330 word? Ah, that's a good question. No, I think just the 34 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,290 pole. Yeah, I mean, the polar vortex was the overall kind of 35 00:02:28,290 --> 00:02:31,950 thing that was discussed. But down here, I think it was just 36 00:02:31,950 --> 00:02:33,840 like this situation. 37 00:02:35,070 --> 00:02:38,400 That's probably what we call that this situation. Cuz 38 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,920 normally the climate things they always want to brand new me. 39 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:45,330 Yeah, there was. There was no brand before was there. No, 40 00:02:45,330 --> 00:02:47,670 that's interesting. Again, it was right there. I mean, 41 00:02:48,750 --> 00:02:51,450 now that didn't grab it. I don't know what happened. I think was 42 00:02:51,450 --> 00:02:54,870 too shocking, really wasn't planned somehow. For his counter 43 00:02:54,870 --> 00:02:58,230 narrative. Yeah. Well, there you go. Yeah. Enough, enough 44 00:02:58,230 --> 00:03:01,140 narratives floating around about that event for sure everyone's 45 00:03:01,140 --> 00:03:02,070 joining in on it. 46 00:03:04,890 --> 00:03:08,430 And of course, black and brown communities suffered much harder 47 00:03:08,430 --> 00:03:10,860 than anybody else. They always do. And 48 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,870 disproportionate. Yes. just bringing the latest news. How 49 00:03:15,870 --> 00:03:18,150 you doing? Well, everything good up there are over them and 50 00:03:18,150 --> 00:03:21,300 everything. Everything's great. We was under Lera I saw stuff 51 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:24,540 but nothing in comparison to what you experienced. I'm 52 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:29,070 slipping and sliding around everywhere. It was strange 53 00:03:29,070 --> 00:03:31,830 because it wasn't that much ground covering but everywhere 54 00:03:31,830 --> 00:03:34,800 was just like a sheet of ice. Right? So you, you couldn't 55 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,860 scrape it or you couldn't shovel it now your kids back in school 56 00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:42,810 yet? Are they? Oh, man, is that ever gonna happen? Is anyone is 57 00:03:42,810 --> 00:03:47,700 there a light at the end of the tunnel? Well, from this 58 00:03:47,700 --> 00:03:52,710 experience, I'll say two things and then we can get into the to 59 00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:55,470 the bag. But I want to say two things about this experience of 60 00:03:55,470 --> 00:04:00,120 working from home and schooling from home. I think it took away 61 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,040 the angst for me personally, I think for a lot of people that 62 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,720 this may be the new normal 63 00:04:08,310 --> 00:04:12,750 for work, I know this is highly likely. And if that's the case, 64 00:04:12,750 --> 00:04:16,320 then homeschooling becomes a real option. Right? Because you 65 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,640 see the quality education your kids are getting if i can i can 66 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:26,220 top that better. Yeah, so I'm not sure man man me and Mrs. 67 00:04:26,220 --> 00:04:30,570 Facts are wearing options. We're gonna discuss discuss it over 68 00:04:30,570 --> 00:04:33,450 the summer, but I don't think they're gonna go back. I don't 69 00:04:33,450 --> 00:04:35,940 think they're gonna go back this year. That's just crazy man. 70 00:04:35,970 --> 00:04:37,320 That is just crazy. 71 00:04:38,610 --> 00:04:41,250 unfathomable nightmare. I don't have any kids anymore. So I was 72 00:04:41,250 --> 00:04:44,460 like, it doesn't. Nothing has changed that much for us in that 73 00:04:44,460 --> 00:04:49,050 regard. But I can just imagine what a change. Well luckily like 74 00:04:49,050 --> 00:04:55,260 my wife works. When she part time or when she's available to 75 00:04:55,260 --> 00:04:58,440 and then me working from home. We are one of the blessed 76 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,000 families. I know a lot of people 77 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,720 are having to deal with having to physically be at work and 78 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,390 what are you doing with your kids? So, it is a sucky 79 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:10,860 situation but luckily I'm in a blessed situation. All right. 80 00:05:12,090 --> 00:05:15,210 Okay, so we're all caught up, Adam. oh no what what's going on 81 00:05:15,210 --> 00:05:20,520 in our in our personal lives? Why don't we? Let's see what you 82 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,520 got going on for us. I'm excited. It's been way too long 83 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,240 where it stops. Nobody knows. Only mo knows. This is the weird 84 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:32,340 of topics. The topic for Episode 59 of mo factors Adam Curry is 85 00:05:32,370 --> 00:05:34,920 you could have your own thoughts, bro. 86 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,400 Okay, so we're gonna pick up Tinder is one of the few times 87 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,090 that we pick up where we left off on the last show. 88 00:05:46,620 --> 00:05:49,860 We spoke about the African American Museum 89 00:05:51,810 --> 00:05:52,500 Cairo 90 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:59,940 aka known as the district, Columbia DC and the African 91 00:05:59,940 --> 00:06:02,790 American Museum they built there. Did you go down some 92 00:06:02,790 --> 00:06:05,310 massive rabbit hole mo is that what happened? Is 93 00:06:06,330 --> 00:06:10,560 we going deeper today. Oh, we're going Whoa, we're going super 94 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,520 deep. Get that extra duty extra heavy duty 10. Full already? 95 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:19,140 Yep. all wrapped on. I'm good to go. Yeah. So I guess we'll like 96 00:06:19,140 --> 00:06:21,540 I said, we'll pick up where we left off. This is a throwback 97 00:06:21,540 --> 00:06:22,020 clip from 98 00:06:23,100 --> 00:06:27,540 the last show, and this is tokenism and whiteness. When the 99 00:06:27,540 --> 00:06:30,720 National Museum of African American History in DC first 100 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,630 opened its doors to the public, President Obama was there to 101 00:06:33,630 --> 00:06:34,350 commemorate it. 102 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:38,940 Perhaps they can help a white visitor understand the pain and 103 00:06:38,940 --> 00:06:39,330 anger 104 00:06:40,470 --> 00:06:45,390 of demonstrators in places like Ferguson. But it can also help 105 00:06:45,390 --> 00:06:47,580 let visitors appreciate the fact that 106 00:06:48,930 --> 00:06:52,320 not only is this younger generation carrying on 107 00:06:52,890 --> 00:06:55,440 traditions of the past, but 108 00:06:56,460 --> 00:06:59,910 within the white communities. Across the nation, we see the 109 00:06:59,910 --> 00:07:04,470 sincerity of law enforcement officers and officials. Imagine 110 00:07:04,470 --> 00:07:09,060 a democrat saying that today. He or she would be thrown out of 111 00:07:09,060 --> 00:07:12,240 the party for that level of nuance. Well, now instead of 112 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,840 being a symbol of progress and reconciliation, the museum has 113 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,140 embraced the radical left language of racial retribution, 114 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:23,520 all to cast America as irredeemably racist and an evil 115 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,970 country. And you the American taxpayer are funding it. Isn't 116 00:07:26,970 --> 00:07:31,740 that neat? Yeah, racial retribution. Well, yeah, we're 117 00:07:31,740 --> 00:07:35,880 gonna we're gonna pick up on that in a second. But this came 118 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:41,820 out maybe around December, from the National Museum of African 119 00:07:41,820 --> 00:07:44,010 American Studies, what we're talking about is 120 00:07:45,090 --> 00:07:49,590 the Smithsonian put out this piece called whiteness. Right? 121 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,730 Talking about race. Yeah, hold exam. This was this was the 122 00:07:53,730 --> 00:07:54,750 precursor 123 00:07:55,950 --> 00:07:58,050 to the things that you're seeing now. I don't know if you're up 124 00:07:58,350 --> 00:08:02,490 to speed on Walker cola or not? Yes. And all the corporate 125 00:08:02,490 --> 00:08:06,060 training? Well, I don't know how to describe this world Coca Cola 126 00:08:06,060 --> 00:08:06,690 yet. But yeah, 127 00:08:07,710 --> 00:08:13,680 for sure. So it's always amazing how these things Tom out there. 128 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,890 Can I ask you that? Is that is that a big thing in on black 129 00:08:16,890 --> 00:08:18,180 Twitter, welcome cola. 130 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,090 And let me put it this way. So this is so Tina keeps seeing 131 00:08:24,090 --> 00:08:26,700 this pop up on her Twitter, which her timeline is going to 132 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:27,900 be different from both of ours? 133 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,360 in you know, so the Coca Cola is just being excoriated everywhere 134 00:08:33,390 --> 00:08:38,130 it can be done. So is that is that a thing? Or how is that 135 00:08:38,130 --> 00:08:41,640 viewed? Well, my timeline is a little different when one 136 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,610 because I'm not as active on Twitter as I used to be. I used 137 00:08:44,610 --> 00:08:47,460 it really, really just for promotion and things of that 138 00:08:47,460 --> 00:08:53,850 nature. But I also have a right leaning a black right leaning 139 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,820 Twitter feed. So it came through in a different way. Okay, not as 140 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,950 it came in is excoriating on this piece. But I guess the 141 00:09:04,950 --> 00:09:07,770 source material was, I guess, I'm saying is there some head 142 00:09:07,770 --> 00:09:13,290 shaking going on? always, like, all this pandering? What's what 143 00:09:13,290 --> 00:09:16,560 we're gonna we're gonna get into this document, what is pushing? 144 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,250 That's why I had to lay out the last show who's in charge 145 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:27,000 and where the narratives are coming from. And I truly believe 146 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,870 this National Museum of African American African American 147 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:35,790 History and Culture is a propaganda you know, hub. Oh, 148 00:09:35,790 --> 00:09:38,370 yeah. You pushing things out like this. And like I said, this 149 00:09:38,370 --> 00:09:43,860 came out in December. And how can I say this? I know people 150 00:09:43,890 --> 00:09:49,140 close in corporate America and right after that. You had the 151 00:09:49,890 --> 00:09:54,780 top five of the Fortune 500 companies. Yeah, all of them are 152 00:09:54,780 --> 00:09:58,110 doing this. All because you don't want to be the guy not 153 00:09:58,110 --> 00:10:00,000 doing it. So Right. Right. Right. You 154 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,370 Bringing the the white 155 00:10:03,570 --> 00:10:04,650 for Julie lady. 156 00:10:06,150 --> 00:10:09,000 I forget her name that wasn't some of this coursework 157 00:10:09,030 --> 00:10:13,980 available on LinkedIn. The educational LinkedIn website was 158 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:14,970 it was 159 00:10:16,949 --> 00:10:18,269 gone it was 160 00:10:19,289 --> 00:10:22,139 it was taken down so that lets you know that it was it wasn't 161 00:10:22,139 --> 00:10:27,899 well received. So right before before we jump into that and 162 00:10:27,899 --> 00:10:32,219 what we're going to talk about the the parent document to what 163 00:10:32,219 --> 00:10:35,819 we've seen is gonna we're gonna we're gonna get way deep into 164 00:10:35,819 --> 00:10:38,879 that. But I wanted to pick up on a couple of things that you 165 00:10:38,879 --> 00:10:42,809 picked right up on it the ratio retribution, and this is where 166 00:10:42,809 --> 00:10:46,889 the right always loses. They had a great opportunity, Trump's 167 00:10:46,889 --> 00:10:51,089 doubled the black vote and the brown vote, turnout from what 168 00:10:51,089 --> 00:10:53,939 they're normally getting. Yeah. And instead of riding that 169 00:10:53,939 --> 00:10:57,269 progress, they come with terminology because if you look 170 00:10:57,269 --> 00:10:58,769 at the word retribution, 171 00:10:59,790 --> 00:11:04,440 it is punishment inflicted on someone as vengeance, yes. Or a 172 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:09,030 wrong or criminal act kind of the opposite of atonement. Well, 173 00:11:09,180 --> 00:11:13,560 Mr. Curry, I'm glad you brought that up. Because I did I didn't 174 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:18,630 clip it. But we will be talking about this later. But our our 175 00:11:18,660 --> 00:11:19,440 atonement 176 00:11:20,460 --> 00:11:24,840 only got one leg. Yeah. And where do we find that in the 177 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,070 wild? Who was saying that? That was that the HR 40 hearings? 178 00:11:29,070 --> 00:11:32,520 Right. Herschel Walker? Yes. Yes. dropped it. He said 179 00:11:33,870 --> 00:11:36,930 reparations and atonement. He was reading. 180 00:11:38,310 --> 00:11:40,950 Notes, man. He was like, wait a minute homeless. Show Notes. 181 00:11:40,950 --> 00:11:43,560 Rev. Mo facts over here. Oh, yes. atonement. That's a word 182 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:46,830 I'm looking for. Yeah, that was so cool. Just to 183 00:11:48,180 --> 00:11:52,740 touch on that one for one second. The words matter. We 184 00:11:52,740 --> 00:11:56,520 always say that reparations are non starter cuz it when you say 185 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,720 that word, then people hear retribution. Yeah. So where 186 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:06,450 atonement is the offending party wants to make good performance? 187 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,810 Yeah, it's the point of performing at not being forced 188 00:12:09,810 --> 00:12:12,960 forced to do it. Yeah. So I just want to point that out. And 189 00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:18,690 even though in this clip from Fox with Ingram on the anger 190 00:12:18,690 --> 00:12:23,280 angle, she puts out good information. When you say words 191 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,450 like that. It falls on deaf ears. And that just goes back to 192 00:12:27,450 --> 00:12:30,330 what you were saying. How was it received? Right? People roll 193 00:12:30,330 --> 00:12:33,900 their eyes when they hear everything that follows that 194 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:38,460 they just gloss over and it was that was that editorializing by 195 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:41,070 Frau Ingraham or was she reading a direct quote? 196 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,950 Gosh, that was she was editorial editorial. He was okay. Okay. 197 00:12:46,980 --> 00:12:50,250 Okay. Well, then she, when people hear reparations from the 198 00:12:50,250 --> 00:12:53,460 right, they hear retribution. I mean, that that's why I think 199 00:12:53,460 --> 00:12:57,720 it's a shame on her. There's no reason to do that. Yeah, it's 200 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,070 not but it's the party line. Yeah, I don't like it. Well, 201 00:13:02,070 --> 00:13:04,230 they have to evolve, evolve, evolve. 202 00:13:05,370 --> 00:13:07,260 And they have a golden opportunity to evolve. 203 00:13:08,610 --> 00:13:12,930 Yes, exactly. And then and so we're gonna get into part two of 204 00:13:12,930 --> 00:13:15,750 this, that that was the one of the clips that recovering the 205 00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:19,050 last show, but I split it up into two parts. So we're gonna 206 00:13:19,050 --> 00:13:22,620 get into part B of that same throwback clip. Now, the museum 207 00:13:22,620 --> 00:13:25,800 now has a website dedicated to explaining the concept of 208 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,970 whiteness, and why it's the root cause of racism and oppression 209 00:13:29,970 --> 00:13:33,840 in America today. According to the website, the normalization 210 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,380 of white racial identity throughout America's history has 211 00:13:37,380 --> 00:13:40,890 created a culture where non white persons are seen as 212 00:13:40,890 --> 00:13:45,000 inferior, or abnormal. And when they say whiteness, they don't 213 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,200 just mean skin color, but also people who value things like 214 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:53,880 individualism, a stable nuclear family, the scientific method, 215 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,140 rational, linear thinking, hard work, Christianity, and being 216 00:13:58,140 --> 00:14:02,550 polite. Of course, these are all values that most Americans, 217 00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:05,940 especially African Americans see as necessary for success and 218 00:14:05,940 --> 00:14:09,120 happiness. So why in the heck is the African American History 219 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,680 Museum telling them otherwise? 220 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,610 Push your property propaganda that's 221 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,020 looking at their website again, and I'm like, Oh, yeah, now I 222 00:14:19,020 --> 00:14:20,700 remember. Oh, yeah. Cuz 223 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,580 DeAngelo D'Angelo, I believe she's a doctor. Um, she's up 224 00:14:26,580 --> 00:14:30,120 there. They got bill hooks. I mean, they went, Whoa. So you 225 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,290 see the court, the corporate it must have $100 million they got 226 00:14:34,290 --> 00:14:39,780 from these from the donors, the founding donors. Uh huh. It's 227 00:14:40,500 --> 00:14:44,310 Oprah Winfrey Charitable Foundation. 20 million or above, 228 00:14:44,580 --> 00:14:47,550 you know, of course, Bill and Melinda Gates and but if you 229 00:14:47,550 --> 00:14:51,480 look at the American Express, Boeing, Ford, GE, 230 00:14:52,740 --> 00:14:57,180 Fox, Bank of America, Disney GlaxoSmithKline, Johnson and 231 00:14:57,180 --> 00:15:00,000 Johnson Nike. Just it's 232 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,530 It's like a who's who? Oh my gosh, is anybody you can imagine 233 00:15:04,530 --> 00:15:07,920 every bank are the top 500 companies, the fortune 500 234 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:15,270 companies plus easily, easily. This is a bonanza. Wow. And I 235 00:15:15,270 --> 00:15:18,480 wonder if this is part of that time magazine article, but we 236 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,610 weren't doing we're not gonna go down. That's a whole separate 237 00:15:20,610 --> 00:15:23,490 rabbit hole. But I think it plays into that. But what I want 238 00:15:23,490 --> 00:15:29,520 to talk about today is the museum's attack on as Ingram 239 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:34,230 laid out, Ingraham laid it out a scientific method slash rational 240 00:15:34,230 --> 00:15:40,440 linear thinking, individualism, hard work, Christianity slash 241 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,400 being polite, and stable, nuclear family, all of these 242 00:15:44,430 --> 00:15:49,290 targets. Right? All of these are targets. And I don't understand 243 00:15:49,290 --> 00:15:55,290 how getting rid of these things help so called black people, or 244 00:15:55,290 --> 00:15:57,750 quote unquote, black people, I don't I don't understand how 245 00:15:57,750 --> 00:16:02,100 that works. We need to have linear thinking and scientific 246 00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:07,380 method that way. I mean, as when we talked about the suspected 247 00:16:07,410 --> 00:16:11,040 issues with the election, we laid out the numerical facts. 248 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,340 Yeah, that's how you prove things is not emotion. So if you 249 00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:15,960 take numbers and 250 00:16:17,220 --> 00:16:20,100 we're gonna, I'm gonna go down the list. So we're gonna start 251 00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:24,000 with a scientific method and rational linear thinking. So 252 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,340 what we're gonna do is going to go back a little bit. 253 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,530 And we talked about the I can understand where they come from, 254 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,610 where they're coming from about, there's some issues with how 255 00:16:35,610 --> 00:16:39,390 numbers are interpreted. And we, you know, it's interesting 256 00:16:39,390 --> 00:16:39,840 because 257 00:16:41,820 --> 00:16:45,900 I've tried to explain, and I don't do a great job. So I'll 258 00:16:45,900 --> 00:16:46,950 just set this up. 259 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:51,720 When you hear math is racist, I usually say look, moe and I 260 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,870 talked about this. That's because it goes back to the 261 00:16:54,870 --> 00:16:58,200 super predators, when they had all these millions of kids be 262 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,530 running around killing everybody chopping their heads off. And it 263 00:17:01,530 --> 00:17:04,920 turned out that was just the bullcrap. Like, climate change, 264 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,280 I'm sorry, climate change, or even the, you know, two and a 265 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,820 half million people gonna die and Coronavirus, and therefore, 266 00:17:12,060 --> 00:17:16,020 because what they said can be disproven with mathematical 267 00:17:16,020 --> 00:17:20,040 truth. Math has to be racist. Did I get it right like that? 268 00:17:20,100 --> 00:17:25,740 That's exactly what their claim is. But we're gonna look at how 269 00:17:25,740 --> 00:17:28,590 this true but it's also dangerous when you throw 270 00:17:28,590 --> 00:17:31,770 statements out there, like math is racist. So let's go ahead and 271 00:17:31,770 --> 00:17:36,960 jump into a clip for a super, super predator scare. 272 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,360 A jogger murdered in New York Central Park, a little girl 273 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:45,480 gunned down in her family's car in Los Angeles, a judge has 274 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,660 sentenced two boys for killing another child who refused to 275 00:17:48,660 --> 00:17:52,350 steal candy for them. There's a tidal wave of juvenile violent 276 00:17:52,350 --> 00:17:55,800 crime right over the horizon. And sons who study it say the 277 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,180 worst is yet to come. Life in the 1990s was dominated by a 278 00:18:00,180 --> 00:18:04,410 sense that youth violence was out of control. The future 279 00:18:04,410 --> 00:18:09,360 looked bleak. To explain why one word said it all super 280 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:13,230 predators. Some social scientists and criminologists 281 00:18:13,230 --> 00:18:17,130 looked at the data and saw Doom, they stepped out of their ivory 282 00:18:17,130 --> 00:18:20,880 towers and into the public arena, to sound the alarm about 283 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,120 a coming wave of kids who are going to ravage the country 284 00:18:28,350 --> 00:18:29,190 to kill your town. 285 00:18:30,690 --> 00:18:36,450 Beautiful. So they got it wrong. But the problem is that people 286 00:18:36,450 --> 00:18:41,280 from the ivory towers are the same people this writing this a 287 00:18:41,310 --> 00:18:45,870 propaganda that's coming out of the Smithsonian. So it's like we 288 00:18:45,870 --> 00:18:48,840 got it wrong, but trust us, we'll get it right this time. So 289 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,290 that was a just a precursor. That was her own show, though 290 00:18:52,290 --> 00:18:57,270 back show me on show 41. And what I found some more evidence 291 00:18:57,270 --> 00:19:02,070 that possibly that math could be even more racist than we thought 292 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:06,360 that we even previously thought, Okay, all right. Let's just go 293 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:11,040 ahead and hop into algorithmic bias explained, algorithms are 294 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,830 everywhere. From powering our internet search results to 295 00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:16,980 taking out the guesswork in our online shopping experience. They 296 00:19:16,980 --> 00:19:20,100 are everywhere we use and trust them each and every day to make 297 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:23,400 countless decisions for us. Despite this seemingly neutral 298 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,000 mathematical nature. algorithms, however, aren't necessarily any 299 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,970 more objective than humans, because at the end of the day, 300 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,150 they have written by people and this is where the phenomenon of 301 00:19:33,150 --> 00:19:37,770 algorithmic bias comes into play. It has many examples. Like 302 00:19:37,770 --> 00:19:40,440 when Nikon cameras equipped with the blink detection feature, I 303 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,740 wouldn't snap photos of many of its Asian users, because the 304 00:19:43,740 --> 00:19:46,650 software thought their eyes would never opened, or how 305 00:19:46,650 --> 00:19:49,950 Amazon's Alexa struggles to recognize different accents. And 306 00:19:49,950 --> 00:19:52,560 when Google Translate insistently associated certain 307 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,860 jobs with certain genders, while translating sentences with 308 00:19:55,860 --> 00:19:59,190 gender neutral pronouns from languages like Turkish, Finnish, 309 00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:59,970 and Chinese 310 00:20:00,539 --> 00:20:03,839 In 2015, Google's photo recognition tool mistakenly 311 00:20:03,839 --> 00:20:07,349 tagged a photo of two black people as gorillas. Meanwhile, 312 00:20:07,349 --> 00:20:10,739 in the US, a crime predicting algorithm wrongly labeled black 313 00:20:10,739 --> 00:20:14,519 people were offenders at nearly twice the rate of white people. 314 00:20:15,509 --> 00:20:18,839 You see the pattern here, algorithm bias is rooted in the 315 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:22,799 way AI, artificial intelligence algorithms work by using what's 316 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:25,709 called machine learning and deep learning, which are both ways in 317 00:20:25,709 --> 00:20:28,829 which computers make decisions. Both are simply dependent on 318 00:20:28,829 --> 00:20:32,399 data, a huge amount of it, and ultimately, the people who feed 319 00:20:32,399 --> 00:20:32,939 the data. 320 00:20:34,410 --> 00:20:38,820 Yeah, I know a lot about this, actually. And that's why I'm 321 00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:43,140 glad you are taking this ride with me. So it's not that math 322 00:20:43,140 --> 00:20:47,640 is racist, or addition, subtraction, and calculus and 323 00:20:47,970 --> 00:20:51,540 differential equations, those are not racist. No, it's the 324 00:20:51,540 --> 00:20:54,780 it's the notions that the people who feed and interpret the data, 325 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,370 and the companies they work for are putting out racist products 326 00:20:59,370 --> 00:21:02,220 if you want to, if you want to, if you want to make that leap, 327 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:02,820 and that's 328 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,500 good. But that's really what's so, so interesting to me about 329 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:11,370 the conversation is because the algorithm and the computer can 330 00:21:11,370 --> 00:21:15,060 only represent that which was put in by the creators. And, 331 00:21:16,410 --> 00:21:21,030 you know, it's like, if you had the exact right amount, that's 332 00:21:21,030 --> 00:21:23,040 why they talk about equity all the time. But if you had the 333 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:24,690 proportionally to the, 334 00:21:26,310 --> 00:21:29,430 to the population, the exact right amount of programmers or 335 00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:32,430 people who would input this information, you still get a 336 00:21:32,430 --> 00:21:35,370 whole bunch of bias because people are biased. You know, 337 00:21:35,370 --> 00:21:38,430 it's never it's never gonna be right. Never ever, it's not even 338 00:21:38,430 --> 00:21:42,090 that it's the end user. They never take the end user in mind 339 00:21:42,090 --> 00:21:42,720 as well. 340 00:21:43,890 --> 00:21:48,000 They don't care about the end user. Type. It's just a black 341 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,550 blackout the picture for a minute and to speak about the 342 00:21:50,550 --> 00:21:55,050 Chinese. Yeah, the camera went take a picture because of the 343 00:21:55,050 --> 00:21:58,710 blink detection. thought. I mean, cuz they have a naturally 344 00:21:58,710 --> 00:22:02,100 closed eye. Where was the outrage over that? I wish I had 345 00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:05,970 known that one. That's funny. Yeah. When they give their 346 00:22:05,970 --> 00:22:11,010 product to Asian test market and get that feedback back, or did 347 00:22:11,010 --> 00:22:16,050 they just take it with it? Yeah. So so we have to hold it do as 348 00:22:16,050 --> 00:22:18,120 they list it. Amazon, Google. 349 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:24,210 Google's call them black people apes? I mean, like, Well, I 350 00:22:24,210 --> 00:22:28,170 mean, but to be fair, yeah, algorithms, gorillas, gorillas, 351 00:22:28,170 --> 00:22:28,620 excuse me. 352 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,210 Algorithms aren't just bias based upon, 353 00:22:34,350 --> 00:22:37,950 you know, external features, what someone looks like, there's 354 00:22:38,250 --> 00:22:42,390 algorithms being applied to people's credit ratings and 355 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,730 insurance policies. And it's, and it can be based on many 356 00:22:47,730 --> 00:22:51,510 factors that can be wrong. So the algorithms just remove the 357 00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:53,550 human factor, and it's just going to suck for a lot of 358 00:22:53,550 --> 00:22:58,290 people it always does. And this is true, what what I'm saying is 359 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,830 these companies that are offending, turn around and 360 00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:06,600 support this museum in their efforts, but their products are 361 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,130 the problem and the way they do their data analysis and data 362 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,110 feeding. That's the problem, right? No, it's math. No, math 363 00:23:16,110 --> 00:23:16,800 is racist. 364 00:23:18,180 --> 00:23:20,520 Man, yes, not us. It's the math. Yes. 365 00:23:22,650 --> 00:23:27,360 It's so sick. It's so sick. Oh, I get sicker because now we're 366 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:33,000 gonna go over to Mr. Haney, for read. He is a Dartmouth 367 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,380 professor, excuse me, professor. And what he's going to talk 368 00:23:37,380 --> 00:23:40,650 about is this criminal justice algorithm. Now, there you go, 369 00:23:40,980 --> 00:23:45,300 you have almost all been subject to a computerized predictive 370 00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:50,730 algorithm of the following form. If you like x, you may like why 371 00:23:51,420 --> 00:23:53,460 now you may be less aware that you've also may have been 372 00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:58,050 subjected to a predictive algorithm of the form. If you 373 00:23:58,050 --> 00:24:01,080 are like x, we may not give you a loan. 374 00:24:02,490 --> 00:24:05,820 Banks financial institutions routinely use your personal 375 00:24:05,820 --> 00:24:06,570 attributes, 376 00:24:07,890 --> 00:24:10,800 compares them to previous customers to assess the risk to 377 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,890 the institution, in terms of giving you a loan or mortgage. 378 00:24:15,390 --> 00:24:17,850 You may have also recently been subjected to a predictive 379 00:24:17,850 --> 00:24:22,170 algorithm of the form. If you are like x, we may not give you 380 00:24:22,170 --> 00:24:22,650 a job. 381 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,720 Employers, and in some cases, university admissions are using 382 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,290 predictive algorithms to make hiring and admission decisions. 383 00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:37,320 And if you've recently had a run in with the criminal justice 384 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,190 system, while I'm sorry, first of all, and second of all, you 385 00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:44,040 may have been subjected to a predictive algorithm of the 386 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,550 following form. If you're like x, then you may go to jail. 387 00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:52,800 Courts now are routinely using predictive algorithms to make 388 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,210 decisions in the courtroom. One particularly popular and now 389 00:24:57,210 --> 00:25:00,000 widespread algorithm is used at the point of a 390 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,730 Rashed to make bail decisions. 391 00:25:05,339 --> 00:25:10,079 Yeah. It's not that the algorithms are wrong. It's all 392 00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:11,639 racists get rid of bail. 393 00:25:12,719 --> 00:25:14,519 Yeah, exactly. So 394 00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:20,850 as we think over here at the Adam Curry show, yeah. Is this a 395 00:25:20,850 --> 00:25:25,320 case of galleon dialectic that way you create the problem? 396 00:25:25,650 --> 00:25:29,580 Yeah. And you provide the solution to the problem, right? 397 00:25:29,730 --> 00:25:33,660 So it's like, so you say, how do we get rid of math? All right, 398 00:25:33,660 --> 00:25:37,410 let's make our algorithms racist. And then we can push him 399 00:25:37,410 --> 00:25:41,670 say, You know what? It's not about mathematics and what you 400 00:25:41,670 --> 00:25:45,540 can prove and facts. It's about what you feel, is what feels 401 00:25:45,540 --> 00:25:50,880 good. It's not what feels good. Yeah. And these companies get 402 00:25:51,330 --> 00:25:56,670 even richer off of manipulating the algorithms. But yeah, I 403 00:25:56,670 --> 00:26:01,830 mean, so basically, it's a closed, closed loop, you just 404 00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:04,380 amplify, you can do all kinds of cool stuff with that. That's 405 00:26:04,380 --> 00:26:08,910 really good. That's a great way to do it. Yeah. So 406 00:26:09,930 --> 00:26:13,410 that's just amazing that judges are not calculating and looking 407 00:26:13,410 --> 00:26:17,490 at your record Are you know, lawyers are not looking at your 408 00:26:17,490 --> 00:26:20,850 records say, Well, he's a repeat offender. They stole your your, 409 00:26:21,570 --> 00:26:25,920 your record into the Yeah, whatever it says and out not 410 00:26:25,950 --> 00:26:31,620 he's a repeat offender. And be clear. I'll let's be clear, as 411 00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:34,950 we always say, what is what starts here? 412 00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:37,200 Yeah, no? 413 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,030 Yeah. You think this is not gonna be used? Oh, it already 414 00:26:42,030 --> 00:26:44,460 is? Oh, I think it already is mo Oh, definitely. 415 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,020 And, and you know what? The same stuff is being used in health 416 00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:52,770 care, my friend. Yeah, you have these symptoms? Could you? 417 00:26:52,830 --> 00:26:54,390 Here's the medication you need. 418 00:26:55,830 --> 00:27:01,410 Huh? Yeah, no, or even even Oh, you bought high salt food you 419 00:27:01,410 --> 00:27:04,950 bought high sugar food insurance? Raise your premiums? 420 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:11,100 My premiums keep going up? Yeah. We saw this with with the car 421 00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:14,550 insurance situation where they had the standard thing that you 422 00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:16,710 would plug into your I think it's called an OEM 423 00:27:18,210 --> 00:27:22,890 onboard and oh OBD you're plugging in and ride around for 424 00:27:22,890 --> 00:27:25,650 a week or two. And they will take your data and they will 425 00:27:25,650 --> 00:27:29,220 give you a lower insurance rate. Yep. Progressive has that now 426 00:27:29,250 --> 00:27:32,820 you can see a little dongle I think or even not even that. I 427 00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:35,880 think it just, I think they just as long as you have it on in 428 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,790 your car with your smartphone, your smartphone is passing back 429 00:27:38,790 --> 00:27:43,050 the data. They can almost know everything. Oh, yeah, that's 430 00:27:43,050 --> 00:27:45,000 fantastic. companies give you a 431 00:27:46,050 --> 00:27:50,130 discount mo if you download the app and give you know of your 432 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,240 roadside assistance. If you need it, we can find you. GPS but 433 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,990 they're tracking this is why this is what Credit Karma is all 434 00:27:57,990 --> 00:28:01,410 about. This is the most egregious Credit Karma talk 435 00:28:01,410 --> 00:28:05,220 about my credit me You always disagree with Credit Karma, we 436 00:28:05,220 --> 00:28:07,200 can have this discussion, because this is the perfect 437 00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:10,020 episode have it go ahead. And I'll explain to you why I like 438 00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:17,280 Credit Karma, Credit Karma is is managing its users initially to 439 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,520 help them get better credit scores, then to help them get a 440 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,630 loan based upon their score a larger line of credit, and now 441 00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:29,370 they've moved towards, if you stream your videos, with 442 00:28:29,370 --> 00:28:32,850 Netflix, you'll get a better credit score. And next it'll be 443 00:28:32,850 --> 00:28:37,800 if you watch this video, you get a little extra credit score, but 444 00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:40,830 we noticed you watched that video that made your credit 445 00:28:40,830 --> 00:28:45,210 score go down, that's coming. And so I'm against all this. So 446 00:28:45,210 --> 00:28:49,200 I'm gonna explain to you why credit score is not it's not 447 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,730 even a real credit score. Well, no, it is not, but it correlates 448 00:28:53,730 --> 00:28:56,820 to your you know, the official credit score that you know, 449 00:28:57,030 --> 00:29:02,220 lenders not really but that's debatable debate if that one 450 00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:06,150 goes up typically the one that they bank, it and I reason why I 451 00:29:06,150 --> 00:29:10,050 say I like it, is I understand the game, they're collecting my 452 00:29:10,050 --> 00:29:13,440 data in there, you know, I want to get that. But beforehand, 453 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:19,260 before these apps came along, people were credit illiterate. I 454 00:29:19,260 --> 00:29:22,500 mean, you knew that you paid your bills and you know, and you 455 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:25,380 know that kind of thing, but knowing how to manipulate your 456 00:29:25,380 --> 00:29:29,040 credit score. Now was gamified I mean, 457 00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:35,100 you if you know how to play this system with that bad boy. You 458 00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:38,040 can get your credit score to boom and I say this 459 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,950 so called black man I'm gonna get there. What do you need? 460 00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:47,550 What do you need the credit score for you what Moe? What do 461 00:29:47,550 --> 00:29:50,730 you need your credit score for when I when I bought a home and 462 00:29:50,730 --> 00:29:56,880 when I go to buy a car. I'm just knowing this. I mean, like I 463 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,970 said, What is explained and I don't want to make it long. 464 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,750 thing out of this. But what it did was it explains all the 465 00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:07,830 components of a credit score, which this is how racism used to 466 00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:11,640 work, a lot of this knowledge would be hid behind walls and 467 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,510 doors. And this is why racism has changed in the information 468 00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:18,870 age. It's not that it's not that I'm accepting of Credit Karma, 469 00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:24,240 the company per se, but the many people be educated about how to 470 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,900 affect your credit in a positive way. This is all new to us. 471 00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:33,930 When I got my working class, I got the problem I have is that 472 00:30:33,930 --> 00:30:36,960 with most of these systems, you're giving them access to 473 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,470 your bank account, and they can see all your transactions. And 474 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,000 that's just evil shit. 475 00:30:43,020 --> 00:30:47,550 But I'm in the School of they already see it. I mean, so I 476 00:30:47,550 --> 00:30:51,840 mean, I guess, and I think this is where our age difference 477 00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:59,340 plays into. Yes, I was. I was 20. I was 21 and 2001. 478 00:31:00,690 --> 00:31:01,650 So 479 00:31:03,150 --> 00:31:07,380 I'm just used to being I'm used to being surveilled. So I mean, 480 00:31:07,380 --> 00:31:09,780 it's nice. Just, I'm sorry to hear that. 481 00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:13,560 Well, I mean, it's the that's the reality of it. So when you 482 00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:16,320 come in from from that angle, where they surveilling me 483 00:31:16,380 --> 00:31:21,030 anyway, there's nothing private anyway. Um, I just thought, I'll 484 00:31:21,030 --> 00:31:24,630 take the benefits of it. And I and I understand that the 485 00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:26,250 gamified, I got it all, 486 00:31:27,330 --> 00:31:31,080 you're probably, you know, you are a stronger individual than 487 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,040 most. There's a lot of tricks being played in this toll, not 488 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,980 just Credit Karma, specifically. But these types of apps, there's 489 00:31:38,010 --> 00:31:42,780 multiple kinds. And they are in, in essence, trying to get people 490 00:31:42,780 --> 00:31:47,340 into deeper debt, and get them to buy things based upon what 491 00:31:47,340 --> 00:31:51,840 the algo thinks they will want. That's all I know, it's funny. I 492 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,050 just 493 00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:55,440 think a lot of people don't know that. I think most people 494 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,560 probably don't know that. And it's funny that you say that. 495 00:32:00,180 --> 00:32:04,620 Because me class, aka coach was having this same exact 496 00:32:04,650 --> 00:32:08,640 conversation. I'm not a person that wants to protect people 497 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,690 from things. I only want to educate people of all the 498 00:32:12,690 --> 00:32:17,070 ramifications, and then let people freely choose, of course, 499 00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:21,120 how I you know, because we can't we can't put up safeguards like, 500 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,000 No, no, no, you can't do that. No, you can't do this. But this 501 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,660 is what we do with this show. I mean, we don't tell you what the 502 00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:33,630 thing which is explaining the what the manipulation is that if 503 00:32:33,630 --> 00:32:35,430 you want to continue to participate in it, it's your 504 00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:39,210 choice. But understand what you're getting to. So I'll bring 505 00:32:39,210 --> 00:32:42,480 that back around. But yeah, I mean, with good comms bad, 506 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,340 right? algorithms and all these things. This is all new to us. 507 00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:50,340 And that's why I said like, being black in the information 508 00:32:50,370 --> 00:32:55,200 age, it was totally different for being black in the 1960s and 509 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,190 70s, and even a pre internet, because there was no way you 510 00:32:59,190 --> 00:33:04,560 could get a main blonde to China to get your products made. And I 511 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,780 know people like well, why are you buying from China? But it's 512 00:33:06,780 --> 00:33:09,270 like, well, if the whole industry supply from China, 513 00:33:09,270 --> 00:33:12,090 right. And I'm trying to be a small business person. 514 00:33:13,140 --> 00:33:16,170 This is the first time we had that kind of access, and got it. 515 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,080 Do you know, so I'm just explaining to you. I mean, just 516 00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:21,960 mean, we got what we do here we humanize? And we don't know 517 00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:28,740 that we humanize these functions that we know we use and 518 00:33:30,540 --> 00:33:33,810 that it's it's a gift and a curse. So you have to be 519 00:33:33,870 --> 00:33:38,250 educated. And I think people want not be educated. And that's 520 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,840 the way it works. 521 00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,020 Can we agree on that? For sure? 522 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,560 Well, that's what we're talking about here that what they're 523 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,650 trying to destroy education. This is the role. This is the 524 00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:55,290 role of this document. And let's get back into the criminal 525 00:33:55,290 --> 00:33:58,980 justice algorithm. One particularly popular and now 526 00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:03,450 widespread algorithm is used at the point of arrest, to make 527 00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:06,030 bail decisions. And conceptually, it's a pretty 528 00:34:06,030 --> 00:34:06,870 simple idea. 529 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,360 a defendant who has been charged with a crime is information is 530 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,750 extracted from them and is fed into a computer algorithm. And 531 00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:20,040 that computer algorithm outputs a risk factor. And that risk 532 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,730 factor is meant to quantify the likelihood that that person will 533 00:34:23,730 --> 00:34:27,450 commit a crime in the future. Think of a really simple version 534 00:34:27,450 --> 00:34:28,590 of the Minority Report. 535 00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:34,620 Without the creepy people in the pools, and if you are assessed 536 00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:37,830 to be high risk, well, then the judge may deny bail and you will 537 00:34:37,830 --> 00:34:41,160 be held in prison awaiting trial. And if you are assessed 538 00:34:41,340 --> 00:34:46,800 to be low risk, then you may be released, pending trial. Now, in 539 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,270 2016, investigative journalists from Pro publica published a 540 00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:54,540 troubling report on one particularly popular and 541 00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:57,750 widespread predictive algorithm that is used in the courts 542 00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:58,710 around this country. 543 00:34:59,730 --> 00:34:59,970 And when 544 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,420 They found is that this particular algorithm was 545 00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:08,130 significantly disadvantageous to black defendants. What they 546 00:35:08,130 --> 00:35:12,360 found is that if you were a black defendant, you are nearly 547 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,370 twice as likely to be predicted as reoffending when you did not. 548 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,930 That happened 44% of the time, if you are black, and only 23% 549 00:35:21,930 --> 00:35:24,720 of the time, if you are white, that is a staggering difference. 550 00:35:24,780 --> 00:35:28,380 And at the same time, you were almost twice as likely to be 551 00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:31,920 predicted as not offending, when in fact, you did if you are 552 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,940 white, as compared to black that happened 47% of the time, versus 553 00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:39,990 28% of time. So in other words, the album is biased to black 554 00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:41,580 defendants against black defendants. 555 00:35:44,130 --> 00:35:44,370 So 556 00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:51,960 what I find interesting about this, the algo was biased 557 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,490 against black defendants. But this this particular algorithm, 558 00:35:56,580 --> 00:36:01,500 does it take skin color into the equation? I think it's the 559 00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:05,940 bubble. Unless you fill out a Scantron it's like, white black, 560 00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:09,660 or you know, Hmm, I think that's, of course, I mean, I 561 00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:12,540 don't think they they're looking at your data, right? 562 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,080 I'm just gonna read here could it could it could have been 563 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,990 well, there's a particular type, I'm just just playing devil's 564 00:36:18,990 --> 00:36:21,240 advocate for a second because this has always bothered me 565 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:23,580 about the story, because it always comes right after like we 566 00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:25,410 did. Okay, so 567 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,500 the algorithm saw black people as gorillas, and then it was 568 00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:35,700 biased against black people they sent him the the the block come 569 00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:40,950 up more often than given bail. And so that would imply that in 570 00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:47,970 the algorithm, some set of factors plus black is no go. 571 00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:53,790 Yes, that would have to be programmed there. On purpose. 572 00:36:54,930 --> 00:36:58,830 Exactly. Because that is that is not just a gorilla mistake, you 573 00:36:58,830 --> 00:37:01,620 know that I can see how a computer that doesn't have 574 00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:05,280 enough information can can maybe not make that distinction 575 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,080 initially. This has to be if it's any search set of 576 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,950 circumstances same to people except one is filled up black on 577 00:37:13,950 --> 00:37:16,890 the bubble, and then they go to jail, then then that's on 578 00:37:16,890 --> 00:37:21,840 purpose that can see it no other way. And Nast's that's my point. 579 00:37:23,010 --> 00:37:25,080 Yeah, we have to look into these Come 580 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,270 on. Yeah. And they should really be a class action lawsuit. 581 00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:34,560 Because when you say a given grant and people bail, say if 582 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,760 you got like, I'm trying to maybe like a DWI. Right, which I 583 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,000 that's something that you should be able to come home for pretty 584 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,370 quick. But if you're not wi x is not in Texas. Yeah. I was like 585 00:37:47,370 --> 00:37:50,340 48 hours. I mean, but yeah, they say they give you an ordinate 586 00:37:50,340 --> 00:37:54,720 and you're saying Lord in orderly large bail, and you miss 587 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,960 work, you miss work, you lose your job, you lose your job. 588 00:37:58,740 --> 00:38:02,850 These things devastate people lives. Yeah. And it's just some 589 00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:07,590 body coding like, Oh, yeah, um, it's the accuracy. Right? Right. 590 00:38:07,590 --> 00:38:11,730 Right. It's like, Oh, we were you know, 97% accurate with our 591 00:38:11,730 --> 00:38:17,160 decisions, but you're gonna screw some somebody over by, you 592 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,400 know, basically offer not skin color. And I'm glad you brought 593 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,250 that up. This is about corporate designation. This is about 594 00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:24,510 racial designation. 595 00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:28,200 So this is why we always talk about white and black and what 596 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,200 it really is, and we've expound on it a bunch. And we may get 597 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,650 into that a little later. But yeah, this is just another 598 00:38:35,970 --> 00:38:39,750 line in the code that says if a marked black 599 00:38:40,890 --> 00:38:44,100 Yeah, that needs to be disclosed higher bill that really needs to 600 00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:48,150 be sliced as that I recall these stories, wasn't there. Wasn't 601 00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:50,970 that code eventually brought up and didn't people look at it? Or 602 00:38:50,970 --> 00:38:53,340 is that still not happened? They looked at it and then they 603 00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:55,980 probably made a donation and it goes away, right? I mean, 604 00:38:55,980 --> 00:38:58,350 where's all the Searles da is it? Yeah. 605 00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:59,850 Yeah. 606 00:39:05,970 --> 00:39:09,510 Yeah. This is why they're supposedly supposed to be 607 00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:11,190 elected to fight the 608 00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:18,420 Exactly. This is actually systemic. This is for real. 609 00:39:19,110 --> 00:39:25,050 Yeah. By definition. Yes. The system is written or coded. To 610 00:39:25,050 --> 00:39:27,270 say if you're black a you get a higher bill. 611 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:28,950 Just 612 00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:34,830 just finally hit me it's like, computer didn't scan the person 613 00:39:34,830 --> 00:39:38,160 standing there. No, it's not. There's no, there's no data 614 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,280 there that's gonna make that person more gorilla. Like, it's 615 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,350 just it probably doesn't say black or just as African 616 00:39:43,350 --> 00:39:48,240 American. Right. Sure. Yeah, that needs to be investigated. 617 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:50,820 That's, that's really messed up. There's no other way than on 618 00:39:50,820 --> 00:39:54,270 purpose. So I understand where they're coming up with their 619 00:39:54,270 --> 00:39:58,680 issue with rational linear thinking and the scientific 620 00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,970 method and math. 621 00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:04,620 In general, right this is, what didn't they jumped the shark. 622 00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:07,980 And we have to go back to show 14 because we were on top of 623 00:40:07,980 --> 00:40:11,520 this all time ago. And this is math is racist. 624 00:40:14,219 --> 00:40:18,269 The opposite of Donald Trump is an Asian man who likes math. 625 00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:23,880 Andrew Yang may want to rethink that catchphrase, because 626 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,770 apparently, math is racist. Seattle's public schools are 627 00:40:28,770 --> 00:40:33,120 considering a proposal that would mix social justice in with 628 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,950 math, including studying how math has been appropriated by 629 00:40:37,950 --> 00:40:43,860 Western culture, and that math itself is racist. And Alessia 630 00:40:43,860 --> 00:40:47,310 Parson is a sociologist and educator, who agrees with the 631 00:40:47,310 --> 00:40:51,900 premise of the proposal, and joins me now. Alright, so and 632 00:40:51,930 --> 00:40:56,310 let me let me just see where I'm confused. So you understand 633 00:40:56,310 --> 00:40:59,130 what's going on? I am bad at math. 634 00:41:00,150 --> 00:41:06,120 And if math is racist, then I'm also white. Does that make me 635 00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:12,060 too dumb to be racist? Or not? 636 00:41:13,110 --> 00:41:16,170 racist enough to be good at math? 637 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,870 not racist enough. Jesse. That's such a long conversation. First 638 00:41:21,870 --> 00:41:27,000 of all, remember Dr. De Blasio, Parson? Yes. So please don't 639 00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:29,160 refer to me by an but I appreciate it. 640 00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:36,270 Excuse me, let me just show you my badge here for a moment. 641 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,760 That's a doctor and to you Mr. Jesse waters. 642 00:41:43,770 --> 00:41:46,440 And is that does that not raise your privilege? 643 00:41:47,790 --> 00:41:52,020 Was she is not she's white? Not talking about educational 644 00:41:52,020 --> 00:41:57,870 academic privilege. That's all you will refer to me? As as Dr. 645 00:41:58,110 --> 00:42:02,190 Of course it does. It's anyone who does that as a douche. But 646 00:42:02,190 --> 00:42:05,340 how do you not miss that it's like you your your whole life 647 00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:08,850 work is based off of privilege. And then you as soon as you know 648 00:42:08,850 --> 00:42:12,540 you somebody that call you by your? Because your professional 649 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,010 moniker that he knows? Because she's there. Call me doctor. 650 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,280 She's there for the cause? Don't you understand most she's on the 651 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:25,260 battlefield against an actual racist? No. And that's that's 652 00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:30,150 why you asked me before. I think black people so called black 653 00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:34,080 people, quote unquote, black people are so over these these 654 00:42:34,140 --> 00:42:39,630 these blue, these liberals? Because they're pandering is so 655 00:42:39,630 --> 00:42:40,560 disgusting. 656 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,690 It makes the thing. 657 00:42:44,370 --> 00:42:48,900 My dad, he always told me growing up, he was like writing 658 00:42:48,930 --> 00:42:53,400 reading, that's, you know, you can get graded anyway on that. I 659 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,220 mean, there's some technical aspects to grammar and 660 00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:01,950 no, English, you know, English and writing. But math. 661 00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:07,710 That's the fair shit you can get. Yeah, as a person of 662 00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:12,090 disadvantage. Because when you give me that test, there are 663 00:43:12,090 --> 00:43:14,790 right answers to those questions. Right? If I get the 664 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:18,510 right answers, then I prove myself knowledgeable, right? 665 00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:22,110 Where if I'm writing an essay, you can grade it on how you 666 00:43:22,110 --> 00:43:24,840 feel, you know, it's all subjective. So as long as you 667 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,550 show how you got the wrong answer, 668 00:43:27,870 --> 00:43:29,850 right, and even if you show your work, 669 00:43:31,050 --> 00:43:34,080 showing data, if you show your work, you know, it can be it can 670 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,470 be racist, I know. It's horrible, right? So that's what 671 00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:39,630 irks me about what I mean, because we played this clip on 672 00:43:39,630 --> 00:43:44,250 show 14, so we were we were on top of this way, way back. 673 00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:48,690 Because I understand. So if you take math out of it, then we 674 00:43:48,690 --> 00:43:52,260 can't make the case of the previous clips, to say, look at 675 00:43:52,260 --> 00:43:54,420 these results. You know, 676 00:43:55,530 --> 00:43:58,860 you see, you see how destabilizing of society is when 677 00:43:58,860 --> 00:44:03,750 you take rational linear thinking and mathematics out of 678 00:44:03,780 --> 00:44:06,810 the picture? Well, what that what's crazy is that there's 679 00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:11,040 never a good explanation for it. And everyone just goes, Okay, 680 00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:15,030 you're an idiot. And then they keep saying it. Does there's no 681 00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:18,870 resolution ever of this issue? Well, you make a good point. So 682 00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:22,950 let's go that doctor and try to explain what she means. Tell me 683 00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:25,350 why math is racist. Doctor. 684 00:44:26,370 --> 00:44:32,940 Yes. So you It's funny. On November 6 2016, I was at a 685 00:44:32,940 --> 00:44:36,810 conference on statistics. And I raised my hand and I was like, 686 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,050 Are you telling me statistics are racist? 687 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,110 And that was what, almost three years ago and I was really 688 00:44:46,110 --> 00:44:49,170 confused when I asked the question and spent years reading 689 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,670 about many different things. 690 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,470 Have you Jessie read native son, which I gave you last time we 691 00:44:55,470 --> 00:44:55,770 met. 692 00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:59,970 I read it in high school, but I have not read 693 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,390 Read it since the last time you gave it to me. But what does 694 00:45:03,390 --> 00:45:06,300 that have to do with is math racist? 695 00:45:07,410 --> 00:45:13,140 So the critical race theory and is a framework for understanding 696 00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:16,110 the world that helps us understand that this entire 697 00:45:16,110 --> 00:45:19,650 country is racist, right? We have a white supremacist tasks 698 00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:21,990 right? racial caste system in the United States. 699 00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:26,910 For once, right? Are you saying that all white people in America 700 00:45:26,940 --> 00:45:27,870 are racist? 701 00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:34,260 Yeah, I am, too. Sometimes it happens. We were socialized to 702 00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:37,710 practice the socialization and learning about social norms. So 703 00:45:37,710 --> 00:45:39,900 you're, you're a racist. 704 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,370 Occasionally it happens. I usually apologize it when I 705 00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:47,220 realized it, how are you a racist? What do you think my 706 00:45:47,580 --> 00:45:48,420 superior? 707 00:45:50,490 --> 00:45:53,850 Jessie, that question doesn't make sense. Well, isn't racism 708 00:45:53,850 --> 00:45:58,530 the belief that one race is inherently superior than another 709 00:45:58,530 --> 00:46:01,740 race, and then you discriminate against other races? 710 00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:06,810 That is a piece of racism. But you give a definition. That's 711 00:46:06,810 --> 00:46:11,820 really old. Yeah. And language evolves over time. And white 712 00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:16,020 supremacy? What are what raised in white supremacy today? Yeah, 713 00:46:16,050 --> 00:46:20,250 okay. They are structures that affect us all. So people do 714 00:46:20,250 --> 00:46:24,180 things that are racist all the time, myself included, because 715 00:46:24,210 --> 00:46:26,370 we don't realize that's happening. Like 716 00:46:26,370 --> 00:46:27,600 microaggressions. Okay. 717 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,060 Yeah, I love it. Just. That's the old old definition of the 718 00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:36,660 word. Your old man, you got it all wrong. It's not what the new 719 00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:37,530 kids think. 720 00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:42,300 So you see the conflation on top of that conflation on top of the 721 00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:48,000 conflation? Yeah. Because you say one, we have some algorithms 722 00:46:48,060 --> 00:46:51,570 and whey products are programmed to 723 00:46:53,340 --> 00:46:57,600 do racist things. So you say math is racist in general, all 724 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:03,300 math. Two plus two is four, it is racist. And then you say, the 725 00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:07,920 other conflation she does is racism and micro aggressions. 726 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:08,340 Yeah. 727 00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:14,280 That's very, that's crazy to say, Okay, if you make a 728 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,900 microaggression, that makes you a racist, which, the reason why 729 00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:23,430 I make this point is, then everybody become racist. And if 730 00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:26,520 that's the case, then no one becomes racist. And they you 731 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,360 can't, you know, 732 00:47:29,130 --> 00:47:31,890 that's just racist thinking right there. Mo you gotta stop. 733 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,480 You can't think like that. 734 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,010 I know, I did some math to get to that point where you said 735 00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:39,090 racist formula. 736 00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:44,880 But that is, that's very dangerous, because when real 737 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,080 racist acts happen? Yeah, then people are all they'll just 738 00:47:49,110 --> 00:47:53,010 equate it to a microaggression. And it's not that's not the 739 00:47:53,010 --> 00:47:55,830 case. But that's a very good point. That's a very good point. 740 00:47:55,830 --> 00:47:59,040 And, and, and how much of that is maybe even planned. 741 00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:04,050 so that it becomes completely normalized. You know what I'm 742 00:48:04,050 --> 00:48:04,530 saying? 743 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,600 This goes back to the heady galleon dialectic, and it's 744 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,830 like, you know, are you trying to get rid of racism? Because 745 00:48:13,830 --> 00:48:16,290 you've you are you just make it so benign? 746 00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:22,410 that it doesn't mean anything. Yeah. Which I think I'm gonna 747 00:48:22,410 --> 00:48:25,530 say this. And I probably shouldn't say this. I think 748 00:48:25,530 --> 00:48:29,670 there are some factions in this country that want to get rid of 749 00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:33,060 a das foundation of black native black people 750 00:48:34,830 --> 00:48:38,310 as a whole, because that's the way you get rid of the great the 751 00:48:38,310 --> 00:48:42,000 great sin of America. And then it's like, we can restart with 752 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,170 these new black people. 753 00:48:46,050 --> 00:48:50,580 That's how we can move forward. Right. Hmm. And and they're, 754 00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:56,340 they don't have this same med. Same stake in the game. No, I 755 00:48:56,340 --> 00:48:57,060 mean, that's just like, 756 00:48:58,410 --> 00:49:02,490 showing up for the goodies. Well, not Not only that, but you 757 00:49:02,490 --> 00:49:06,390 don't realize that we're missing. Because you see about 758 00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:07,740 everyday life, you'll see black. 759 00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:10,110 Right, right. Right, right. 760 00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:15,540 Because you say, you noticed that this Aidan's population 761 00:49:15,540 --> 00:49:20,100 drops like to 5%. But you know, he didn't we know that 13% is 762 00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:23,760 standard for this country for black people. For the for the 763 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:29,010 horse race. Last week, I mean, our last show, right? So if you 764 00:49:29,010 --> 00:49:34,260 drop the A das population down to 5%, raise the immigrant and 765 00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:37,380 you know, I'm new, you know, the 766 00:49:38,610 --> 00:49:41,730 post racial black people. Let's just say post post slavery, 767 00:49:41,730 --> 00:49:45,990 black people. Yeah. You bring those in to up to 8% that makes 768 00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:51,990 you 13%. No, no, no, no one notices. Wow. And then you heard 769 00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:55,470 what Joe Biden said. He doubled down on that he captured that in 770 00:49:55,470 --> 00:49:58,410 this show, but I'll bring it up again. This great solution is 771 00:49:58,410 --> 00:49:59,970 just enter interracial marriage. 772 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,030 Jeez, which I have no problem with you love what you love, but 773 00:50:03,150 --> 00:50:06,240 that's your solution is to you gotta water you gotta water that 774 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:07,350 black girl some, you know, 775 00:50:09,179 --> 00:50:09,749 cut on it. 776 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:18,449 Wow. Yeah, I guess yeah, yeah, that's how I heard it. I mean, 777 00:50:18,479 --> 00:50:23,519 come on everybody heard what he said, and but it goes unnoticed 778 00:50:23,549 --> 00:50:26,579 or not unnoticed but it's just not it's not about to be 779 00:50:26,579 --> 00:50:29,309 discussed I guess or something in the mainstream. He said it 780 00:50:29,309 --> 00:50:33,149 again I know he I know we keep doing on a town hall 781 00:50:34,590 --> 00:50:39,000 and no one no one says Hey, what do you mean? What are you 782 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,020 talking about? 783 00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:45,150 And I just say I don't say this from a racial standpoint, I say 784 00:50:45,150 --> 00:50:46,980 this from a completely vain 785 00:50:48,690 --> 00:50:52,950 standpoint that I want to make people that look like me. Yeah, 786 00:50:53,610 --> 00:50:57,840 I told you being a parent is the same thing you could do in life 787 00:50:58,170 --> 00:51:01,800 is, you know, hey, let me make another me. And even if your 788 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,670 kids turn out to look like the other half into genetics, right, 789 00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:08,340 you're a little bummed out. Right? So it's not even about 790 00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:12,000 race. This is like, you know, it's a it's a, it's a vanity 791 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,300 thing that you want to you know, you want to recreate because you 792 00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:17,880 think you're so awesome. The world needs another little mo 793 00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:20,580 two or three and God help us. 794 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,280 More Moe's gonna be 795 00:51:25,590 --> 00:51:30,750 a whole gaggle of podcasters Yeah. So that's, that's 796 00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:36,720 it's very, very troubling. So 797 00:51:38,010 --> 00:51:41,880 she did this weird definition of white supremacy. So now we have 798 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,360 to go back to the shows definitely the the definition we 799 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,870 refer to on the show. Yep. And that comes from Neely Fuller. 800 00:51:49,290 --> 00:51:53,730 And he defines racism and white supremacy? Well, there's we're 801 00:51:53,730 --> 00:51:57,780 on a system of white supremacy. That's the most powerful 802 00:51:58,170 --> 00:52:00,960 government that the world has ever seen. And that's the title 803 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,410 of it. By the way, it doesn't go by any other title, even though 804 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,280 we sometimes call it by other titles. But the accurate title 805 00:52:08,460 --> 00:52:13,410 for the government that we are under is in capital letters. The 806 00:52:13,410 --> 00:52:18,000 system of white supremacy worldwide is just one world 807 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,020 government. And that's the only government in town, the only 808 00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:26,280 government on the planet, that grid accounts that is worthy of 809 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,990 having a title of government. 810 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:35,070 Yeah. So for all the non believer, you can't say and this 811 00:52:35,070 --> 00:52:40,200 goes to my conspiracy theorist slash truth. You can't say the 812 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:46,350 Illuminati or the globalist, or these groups exist, and then say 813 00:52:46,350 --> 00:52:50,250 that white supremacy doesn't exist. Because that's what we're 814 00:52:50,250 --> 00:52:54,510 saying. When we say that we're saying they're synonymous. Yes, 815 00:52:54,510 --> 00:52:55,170 exactly. 816 00:52:56,190 --> 00:53:01,050 So when they make it about this, I mean, this racial superiority 817 00:53:01,050 --> 00:53:05,490 and all of that, um, no, are these micro aggression? No, 818 00:53:05,490 --> 00:53:12,090 we're talking about I call hard system that imposes will, no 819 00:53:12,090 --> 00:53:15,960 matter what the people want, and we're seeing that now. And no 820 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,590 matter what color those people are, it does, it just starts 821 00:53:19,590 --> 00:53:20,070 with us. 822 00:53:22,260 --> 00:53:24,540 With a beta test, okay. 823 00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:29,190 How's that been working? working? Okay. 824 00:53:31,620 --> 00:53:35,400 That's what it is. That's, that's how we feel down. That's 825 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,770 how we feel with the vaccine and everything else, or you just 826 00:53:37,770 --> 00:53:39,000 want to test it out on us. 827 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,810 But it doesn't make everybody who end up getting it, but it 828 00:53:45,810 --> 00:53:48,240 just starts with us. But the thing is, our numbers are so 829 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:53,220 small. We can't withstand these attacks. And I can't call it any 830 00:53:53,220 --> 00:53:55,410 other thing. We can't withstand these attacks. 831 00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,510 Because our numbers can't absorb that hit. I mean, it's a white 832 00:54:00,510 --> 00:54:06,600 cooler 50 60% we're 13 if you're talking about interracial will 833 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,480 be gone right before and then there was there will wake up one 834 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,440 day, but you know what, we need to change this, this practice 835 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,510 that we're doing, but then we're gone. 836 00:54:17,370 --> 00:54:21,540 That's a real possibility. I mean, that that is that does 837 00:54:21,540 --> 00:54:25,140 seem to be the overall belief in the color gi plan. That was 838 00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:28,320 always the idea to brown population in Europe, you know, 839 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,700 so it makes total sense that that that's the idea here. And 840 00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:35,340 that's what Malcolm said about the hot coffee and the cool the 841 00:54:35,340 --> 00:54:38,100 cool cream. I mean, you mix it half and half you don't have 842 00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:41,550 coffee or cream, which coffee and cream both have purposes. 843 00:54:41,850 --> 00:54:45,390 And they have need they're needed in this society in their 844 00:54:45,390 --> 00:54:49,980 own separate entities. Yes, exactly. Um, so I mean, I just 845 00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:52,740 wanted to bring that up. So I mean, that pretty much wraps the 846 00:54:52,740 --> 00:54:56,460 scientific method irrational and linear thing, but that's gonna 847 00:54:56,460 --> 00:54:58,950 weave his way in and out of the rest of the episode, but I just 848 00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:59,970 want to go on his checklist. 849 00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:03,539 have things that they're trying to destroy. And when you do 850 00:55:03,539 --> 00:55:08,549 that, it's I don't know, I find that very problematic. But um 851 00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:12,689 now we're going to talk about individualism. So now we're 852 00:55:12,689 --> 00:55:17,009 gonna go back to the Ingraham angle or Ingraham angle. 853 00:55:19,980 --> 00:55:25,680 Ingraham. Yeah. So we're going back to her. And this goes to 854 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,990 show you the lack of individualism that free thinking 855 00:55:30,990 --> 00:55:36,120 black people can have the way these two correspond back and 856 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,390 forth to each other and not forget there was Cooper versus 857 00:55:39,390 --> 00:55:43,080 scotties. Excuse me, Horace Cooper, versus Scotty smart. 858 00:55:44,580 --> 00:55:47,910 And just listen to this exchange, they have chorus, it 859 00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:53,490 strikes me as odd that this African American Museum would 860 00:55:53,490 --> 00:55:59,850 scandalized things that the data has always shown help Americans, 861 00:55:59,910 --> 00:56:04,170 including African Americans, climb up the ladder. So you have 862 00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:09,810 a $500 million. That's a half a billion dollar structure 863 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:15,060 edifice, that apparently thinks its purpose is to offer advice, 864 00:56:15,150 --> 00:56:20,400 to cripple black America to say to black America, the very tools 865 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:25,170 that black Americans like white Americans have used to succeed 866 00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:31,740 and become prosperous, hard work, tenacity, faith, the types 867 00:56:31,770 --> 00:56:39,300 of success skills that work to call those somehow, a racial 868 00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:44,400 category would make David Duke proud. This is really, really 869 00:56:44,460 --> 00:56:48,000 sad, if that's the direction this museum is trying to go. 870 00:56:50,970 --> 00:56:54,270 He said David do was hilarious. It makes me laugh. It is pretty 871 00:56:54,270 --> 00:56:54,600 funny. 872 00:56:55,650 --> 00:56:59,190 But he's right. These are the things we say, you know, hard 873 00:56:59,190 --> 00:57:02,910 work. Taste, right. And I'm not specifically saying 874 00:57:02,910 --> 00:57:07,380 Christianity, but I will say this, when a person has some 875 00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:13,890 kind of faith system, especially my people are our people. They 876 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:19,530 You know, it tends to help them deal with society. You know, I 877 00:57:19,530 --> 00:57:21,810 mean, I think that's in general, but I'll just go and speak 878 00:57:21,810 --> 00:57:25,320 specifically to our group, because it gives you some kind 879 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:25,560 of 880 00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:33,510 thought process, know and coping mechanism, a stable family. Like 881 00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:37,410 I said, scientific method, hard work. These are all things that 882 00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:40,200 we were taught, I mean, you work hard, you, you know, go to 883 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,890 school, get a good education. Make yourself a productive 884 00:57:43,890 --> 00:57:48,840 member of society. And, you know, you you, you'll do I mean, 885 00:57:49,950 --> 00:57:50,700 you'll be okay. 886 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,590 I'll say this, you lessens the chance you lessen the chance 887 00:57:56,100 --> 00:58:00,120 that the system will chew you up and spit you out. Right. And 888 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,220 that's a real sentiment. I know, people might think that's 889 00:58:02,220 --> 00:58:07,020 hyperbole. No, but that's, that is the feeling on that. And that 890 00:58:07,050 --> 00:58:08,430 that's part of the talk. 891 00:58:09,630 --> 00:58:13,230 That goes on. I mean, the talk is, like I said, it's a long and 892 00:58:13,230 --> 00:58:17,430 complicated conversation between parents and children. And you 893 00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:18,750 know, and I think, 894 00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:25,110 looking at parents my age, I think, 895 00:58:26,820 --> 00:58:31,200 I would say it was less of that it was more like your parents 896 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,320 worked hard to make sure you can have an education. Once you have 897 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,580 that, you're gonna be okay. 898 00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:43,110 I'm generalizing. I'm generalizing. But I think that 899 00:58:43,110 --> 00:58:48,030 may have been a little less of a work hard mentality. It's just 900 00:58:48,030 --> 00:58:49,350 my general feeling. 901 00:58:51,180 --> 00:58:52,260 Well, okay. 902 00:58:54,510 --> 00:58:57,900 Yeah, I see what you're saying. But from our side is like you 903 00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:02,160 had no, and this is, I know, I don't know how I feel about this 904 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,100 statement. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how I feel about this 905 00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:08,460 statement. But it was said, it was like, you have to work twice 906 00:59:08,460 --> 00:59:12,450 as hard. You have to work twice as hard. And I don't think that 907 00:59:12,450 --> 00:59:15,750 I agree with that. No, I'm saying I'm telling you, that's 908 00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:16,470 what we were told 909 00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:21,660 to work twice as hard to have. And like I said, I don't know 910 00:59:21,660 --> 00:59:24,810 how I feel about that statement. Because when you say it to your 911 00:59:24,810 --> 00:59:29,970 kids, you're saying your half is good. Yeah, in a roundabout way. 912 00:59:30,210 --> 00:59:34,500 But then it goes, it goes back to our previous conversation. Is 913 00:59:34,500 --> 00:59:39,660 it better to know that there's this lingering system out there 914 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,290 that like, I think this is the approach with our data and know 915 00:59:43,290 --> 00:59:46,470 how we interact with these big companies? Is it better to know 916 00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:50,760 or is it better just to know learn the system and navigate? I 917 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,880 think more I think, I think knowing and learning the system 918 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,290 and navigating the system 919 00:59:56,490 --> 01:00:00,000 is necessary for many children in many different situations. 920 01:00:00,750 --> 01:00:04,800 But connecting it and saying, because of who you were born as, 921 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,790 therefore, you have to work twice as hard. I don't think 922 01:00:08,790 --> 01:00:12,090 that's a positive association that does any good. But you 923 01:00:12,090 --> 01:00:14,790 know, like, hey, you're poor, and this is gonna suck, and 924 01:00:14,790 --> 01:00:16,560 here's what you're gonna have to do. And you're gonna have to 925 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,170 kick some ass to get there. We're not but not necessarily, 926 01:00:19,530 --> 01:00:23,430 you know, just because, you know, I mean, I, I think 927 01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:27,570 children are saying, but the problem is that 928 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,670 how can I say this? The problem is when 929 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,360 you don't want to tell your kids or you can go to school and be a 930 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:37,860 C student and be president. 931 01:00:40,410 --> 01:00:41,280 And yet, Barack, 932 01:00:42,330 --> 01:00:43,650 that's what's amazing that Well, 933 01:00:44,730 --> 01:00:48,450 I was thinking Bush, another fine example. There's plenty of 934 01:00:48,450 --> 01:00:51,660 dumb presidents. Right? I'm gonna, what I'm saying is that 935 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,530 even Barack Obama had to give the appearance that he was an 936 01:00:55,530 --> 01:00:58,200 intellectual, right? He couldn't, he couldn't have 937 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,040 Bush's resume, and be president. So I'm just giving you an 938 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,400 example. And I'm not saying like I said, I'll just preface this 939 01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:08,550 by saying, I don't know how I feel about that. And I don't say 940 01:01:08,550 --> 01:01:09,660 that to my kids, 941 01:01:10,830 --> 01:01:14,550 explicitly to say, hey, you gotta work twice as hard. But I 942 01:01:14,550 --> 01:01:18,210 say to them, and I kind of got this room. And like I said, this 943 01:01:18,210 --> 01:01:20,610 is where you learn from different cultures. You don't 944 01:01:20,610 --> 01:01:22,710 want to be a student, you want to be the best student in the 945 01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:27,300 class. And I learned that from my Indian friends. Because in 946 01:01:27,330 --> 01:01:30,510 India, that's how it's ranking. It's no, it's no, great. Right? 947 01:01:30,510 --> 01:01:33,570 Right. Right, right. So that's why they kick our butt when they 948 01:01:33,570 --> 01:01:36,750 come over here, cuz they're fighting to be the best not just 949 01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:40,260 everybody gets an A, or you know, everybody gets a B. It's 950 01:01:40,260 --> 01:01:46,350 like, there's only one number one. So I get, like I said, I, I 951 01:01:46,350 --> 01:01:48,630 don't know, I don't know how I feel about that. But it was it's 952 01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:51,540 a real cinnamon said that, you know, we had to be twice as 953 01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:51,870 good. 954 01:01:52,980 --> 01:01:55,680 Or twice as hard. Yeah, I'm just trying to so many different 955 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,890 scenarios. But maybe it is unique. I don't know, it's hard 956 01:01:58,890 --> 01:02:02,250 for me to say. But like I said, I feel your 957 01:02:03,330 --> 01:02:06,090 best if you want to interact with the system. And that's why 958 01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:08,850 I say now in the information age where 959 01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:17,580 you can invest in a startup business and explore. You can 960 01:02:17,580 --> 01:02:21,420 explore your mind your ideas, your dreams, right? Where you 961 01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:26,130 used to be confined to what was your, your, you know, the bad 962 01:02:26,250 --> 01:02:30,900 news about education is racist Mo. That's it, I figured it out. 963 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,950 Education is racist, man. Stay away from 964 01:02:37,290 --> 01:02:40,710 the whole thing, not just math. Think math is the whole thing. 965 01:02:41,580 --> 01:02:48,240 Especially PE all racist. But the notion that when black men 966 01:02:48,270 --> 01:02:53,400 say work hard, and you want we want a stable family, and you 967 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:58,680 know, we use logic and reason, that's how we get the labeled as 968 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,270 the white people or black people. 969 01:03:02,490 --> 01:03:05,850 Right. So it's really that notion. So it's really not just 970 01:03:05,850 --> 01:03:08,190 destructive towards black people, this idea of 971 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:10,560 all these 972 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,350 everything the museum stands for, it's really also just 973 01:03:16,350 --> 01:03:20,340 eliminating black men who by the way, are just not showing up 974 01:03:20,340 --> 01:03:22,710 anymore in the logos and anywhere. 975 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,730 Only trading the other day, we were sending something back and 976 01:03:26,730 --> 01:03:31,080 forth. That was the flows that from the un un United Nations 977 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:31,680 where they had 978 01:03:32,910 --> 01:03:34,530 they had every variety 979 01:03:35,670 --> 01:03:39,060 together black and white man, one woman loving herself for 980 01:03:39,060 --> 01:03:44,100 self love, generational old man with a young guy in a ratio and 981 01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:46,710 then the black woman, click the one that was clearly 982 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,870 illustration. So it's really the black woman was expressing self 983 01:03:51,870 --> 01:03:54,360 love. And she was crazy. 984 01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:00,150 But that's that's the goal. And and now you can say I'm 985 01:04:00,630 --> 01:04:05,520 conspiratorial or paranoid. But from these actions, yes, they 986 01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,040 want to get rid of us because if they get rid of us, then you get 987 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,420 rid of the race, period, a blank period. In this case, we're 988 01:04:12,420 --> 01:04:15,780 actually talking about black black men like we've never even 989 01:04:15,780 --> 01:04:17,400 met but I think you're pretty black. 990 01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:19,740 So like, Cory? 991 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:23,100 Yeah, 992 01:04:24,150 --> 01:04:29,220 but Cory Booker, black man, no, it's not color. That's why we 993 01:04:29,220 --> 01:04:33,300 can't get it. But wait, but wait a minute, I'm trying to connect 994 01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:37,530 the whole circle. If we want to have a mocha color throughout 995 01:04:37,530 --> 01:04:40,110 the entire universe, which is clearly the idea. 996 01:04:41,340 --> 01:04:45,180 Then will there be a bias more towards getting rid of black 997 01:04:45,180 --> 01:04:48,870 black men versus brown black men? Because then it is about 998 01:04:48,870 --> 01:04:52,590 color. Is that because that is kind of the identification that 999 01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:53,370 they're doing. 1000 01:04:54,660 --> 01:04:59,820 That is getting rid of I must say this is getting rid of 1001 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:08,730 Black men. And when I'm saying that men who identify as so 1002 01:05:08,730 --> 01:05:14,910 called a DOS or whatever, getting rid of men, men men are 1003 01:05:14,910 --> 01:05:19,140 under attack. Yes. Specifically, if it starts with a, who are the 1004 01:05:19,140 --> 01:05:22,140 first mean, they're gonna be put under attack well, and it's like 1005 01:05:22,170 --> 01:05:25,950 we can get them, then the whole rest of the world falls into 1006 01:05:25,950 --> 01:05:31,590 place. So it's when I say black men, I'm saying, people, men who 1007 01:05:31,620 --> 01:05:35,430 operate like men and work off logic and reason and hard work 1008 01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:40,560 and those things. If we can get the subset of black men that 1009 01:05:40,620 --> 01:05:44,340 identify with their maleness or their manliness, we can take 1010 01:05:44,340 --> 01:05:46,470 them out. I have the 1011 01:05:47,550 --> 01:05:51,600 right terms. No, no, no, hold on a second. This is good because 1012 01:05:52,020 --> 01:05:54,180 everything is the white man's fault right now. It's not the 1013 01:05:54,180 --> 01:05:57,240 same thing is what's happening to black men. The white man it's 1014 01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,390 all old white men all your fault. You're a holes you 1015 01:06:00,390 --> 01:06:04,290 misogynistic. You're mansplaining you no good. No 1016 01:06:04,290 --> 01:06:10,230 good. But we are always portrayed as wimps. Oh, honey, 1017 01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:13,650 I'm sorry. I got the wrong washing powder. Ooh, that's be 1018 01:06:13,650 --> 01:06:18,900 the doofus again. Right? The black man has a much stronger, 1019 01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:24,480 much more masculine image in society still. And I was I 1020 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,700 brought that point up before that when you talk about 1021 01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:30,450 masculinity. If we're talking about societal masculinity, 1022 01:06:31,260 --> 01:06:34,980 white men are the pinnacle. And what I mean by that is 1023 01:06:35,010 --> 01:06:36,330 benefiting from the 1024 01:06:37,620 --> 01:06:40,860 inheritance and generational wealth and things of that 1025 01:06:40,860 --> 01:06:45,300 nature. But when we talk about physical Yeah, masculinity. 1026 01:06:47,010 --> 01:06:51,360 Black men are the the pinnacle. Right, but masculinity is no 1027 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,210 longer. Yeah, masculinity is no longer the banker, the 1028 01:06:54,210 --> 01:06:58,440 successful businessman. That's in fact, the Trump type 1029 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,560 businessman. That has to be erased. That's none of it that 1030 01:07:01,590 --> 01:07:05,070 white men don't exist like that. Where we're balding. We're fat, 1031 01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:08,640 we're hunched over. We're right. Yeah, we're any anything but 1032 01:07:08,670 --> 01:07:09,270 cool. 1033 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,020 And that's why you started with a sports league. Right? You want 1034 01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:13,860 to bring in this? 1035 01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:21,630 Right, the pinnacle of white masculinity and intermingling 1036 01:07:21,630 --> 01:07:25,500 with the pinnacle of black masculinity. And it's a cultural 1037 01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:28,290 war because LeBron James, you would say he's the pinnacle of 1038 01:07:28,290 --> 01:07:31,950 masculinity period, because he's 692 170 pounds it can jump you 1039 01:07:31,950 --> 01:07:35,070 know, jump running you know and and intelligent all these 1040 01:07:35,070 --> 01:07:40,290 things. And then but he's owned by a mass they own the team is 1041 01:07:40,290 --> 01:07:43,890 owned by owned by owner is owned by China and really, but that's 1042 01:07:43,890 --> 01:07:45,270 right. Well, yeah. 1043 01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:50,970 But but the optics are owned by a white man. And he's too 1044 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,660 masculine. He's clash. And and the powers that be are playing 1045 01:07:54,660 --> 01:07:57,540 them off each other. Yeah, hoping that they destroy each 1046 01:07:57,540 --> 01:08:00,030 other, and then we'll have somebody right. Well, we won't 1047 01:08:00,030 --> 01:08:02,610 get too far. I like it. No, no, I like it. I'd like it. Okay, 1048 01:08:02,610 --> 01:08:05,670 dude, I'm sorry. You keep moving mo um, I'm just diving in with 1049 01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:10,410 you. Yeah, so just an example of this. You her horse, Cooper 1050 01:08:10,410 --> 01:08:15,930 speak. And now Scotty smart is gonna come in. And we'll see 1051 01:08:15,930 --> 01:08:19,230 what Scotty does. I think that I actually loved the article, I 1052 01:08:19,230 --> 01:08:21,120 think a lot of people should actually go and read the 1053 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,590 article. We can't keep pushing whiteness and white privilege 1054 01:08:25,620 --> 01:08:28,800 under the rug. Like it's not an issue. It's a deep rooted issue 1055 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,010 that we have to address. And I think even to have two black 1056 01:08:32,010 --> 01:08:35,790 people, myself and Horace to be against one another, to have a 1057 01:08:36,030 --> 01:08:39,750 debate on this topic is a whole matter of whiteness in itself, 1058 01:08:39,780 --> 01:08:41,940 because he's gonna sit here and try to contradict what we're 1059 01:08:41,940 --> 01:08:44,370 talking about. So I don't want to talk over hearts. I don't 1060 01:08:44,370 --> 01:08:46,770 want to be disrespectful to horse. Well, horses, that token 1061 01:08:46,770 --> 01:08:50,340 black friend, only a few white people have as well. So we're 1062 01:08:50,340 --> 01:08:54,300 not here to debate or get not to have a dialogue. But we have to 1063 01:08:54,300 --> 01:08:56,430 have this conversation between it's an uncomfortable 1064 01:08:56,430 --> 01:08:58,890 conversation that most people aren't willing to have, and to 1065 01:08:58,890 --> 01:09:01,680 educate blacks and whites on our different perspectives, 1066 01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:04,560 different narratives that we have, that we grew up with and 1067 01:09:04,620 --> 01:09:08,130 so to have someone who is a representation of black people. 1068 01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:14,400 So I invited you on the show in good faith, you actually have a 1069 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:19,440 conversation and and yet you come on the show, and you kind 1070 01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:23,700 of give it a little backhand to Horace and it's a dehumanizing 1071 01:09:23,820 --> 01:09:27,000 Well, it's dehumanizing to call someone a token, it's 1072 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,970 dehumanizing. And that's that's the language that I whether 1073 01:09:29,970 --> 01:09:33,150 you're white, black, brown skinned, whatever you are, 1074 01:09:33,180 --> 01:09:37,170 that's a that's a dehumanizing word. He's a human being with 1075 01:09:37,170 --> 01:09:39,450 thoughts. Maybe he disagrees with you. That's okay. I don't 1076 01:09:39,450 --> 01:09:41,430 care that you disagree with him. But 1077 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:46,620 he's me. No disrespect okay. 1078 01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:53,580 disrespect to Horace no dishes. No, not me. Not Are you taking 1079 01:09:53,580 --> 01:09:54,510 it the wrong way token. 1080 01:09:56,460 --> 01:09:59,100 Because Okay, now we got to get into some linguistics here 1081 01:09:59,130 --> 01:10:00,000 because remember, when we 1082 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,580 had a conversation about thug, right? 1083 01:10:03,810 --> 01:10:09,870 And thug being synonymous with the N word used by a certain 1084 01:10:09,870 --> 01:10:15,810 crowd. Now token were used by one black person against another 1085 01:10:15,810 --> 01:10:18,930 black person. That is the same thing as saying Coons Hoon 1086 01:10:18,930 --> 01:10:22,980 level. Yeah, yeah. So that's what I mean. He says no, I don't 1087 01:10:22,980 --> 01:10:24,990 mean any disrespect token. But 1088 01:10:26,130 --> 01:10:29,190 here because the white man wants you to do his bidding for him. 1089 01:10:29,310 --> 01:10:32,490 But this is a projection. Because the other reason is 1090 01:10:32,490 --> 01:10:35,100 Scott is here for that very reason. 1091 01:10:36,510 --> 01:10:37,680 Exactly. 1092 01:10:39,660 --> 01:10:43,920 Always projection. But I will say this about horse, Porsche to 1093 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:48,990 stop a Ingraham in her tracks and said, No, I don't need you 1094 01:10:48,990 --> 01:10:52,830 to speak for me. Because the way the optics the way it looked is, 1095 01:10:53,070 --> 01:10:55,140 he attacked a black man and his white woman. 1096 01:10:56,670 --> 01:11:00,390 Right? Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't. I would admit that right in the 1097 01:11:00,390 --> 01:11:03,180 book, like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, let me handle Scotty. 1098 01:11:03,870 --> 01:11:07,950 Right. But he's on it here. He's only there to do the bidding of 1099 01:11:07,950 --> 01:11:13,140 the liberals. Which that's why I said we, we see the game now. We 1100 01:11:13,140 --> 01:11:17,220 see that we've been seeing it. We saw in the 2020 election. 1101 01:11:17,370 --> 01:11:19,980 That's the numbers we'll find out and I'm not gonna go there. 1102 01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:23,100 I want it to be able to go on YouTube. I'm sorry. I 1103 01:11:24,780 --> 01:11:25,800 don't talk about the numbers. 1104 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:33,630 Now, but what I'm saying we see. We're just as distrusting or 1105 01:11:33,630 --> 01:11:37,410 more distrusting of the liberal narrative, that a conservative 1106 01:11:37,410 --> 01:11:39,000 narrative because the conservative narrative makes 1107 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,230 sense. Or maybe it's like maybe maybe they should someone should 1108 01:11:43,230 --> 01:11:47,940 alert the liberal the liberals about this. The alienating 1109 01:11:47,940 --> 01:11:48,480 people. 1110 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,130 They don't care. Because we're not human. We heard what she 1111 01:11:53,130 --> 01:11:57,030 said you're dehumanizing. You do not realize what happened in the 1112 01:11:57,030 --> 01:12:00,210 2020 election. Black men that speak for themselves were 1113 01:12:00,210 --> 01:12:04,530 dehumanized, eliminated, really, from the entire conversations 1114 01:12:04,530 --> 01:12:04,950 gone. 1115 01:12:06,210 --> 01:12:09,210 When you say, oh, why would you vote for a person like this? Or 1116 01:12:09,210 --> 01:12:13,320 that? It's like, you just are totally nullified. Like, shut 1117 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,610 up. Yeah, go to your corner. I want to hear an explanation. So 1118 01:12:17,610 --> 01:12:21,210 it's like, okay, you're allowed to speak because the powers that 1119 01:12:21,210 --> 01:12:23,160 be like what you're saying, Scotty, 1120 01:12:24,210 --> 01:12:28,500 were a horse would be shouted down. Wish, what I'm saying what 1121 01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:30,840 I would say is, and this is where we go back to the list. 1122 01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:36,180 Let's bring it out the facts and weigh them out. And whoever has 1123 01:12:36,180 --> 01:12:39,360 the best set of facts wins. But that's not what they do. And 1124 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,570 they make it about feeling they get rid of facts make it about 1125 01:12:42,570 --> 01:12:46,620 feelings. And then, you know, whoever has the best narrative 1126 01:12:46,620 --> 01:12:47,160 wins. 1127 01:12:48,570 --> 01:12:53,280 Yeah. So I mean, like I said, I found that very disgusting. Um, 1128 01:12:54,210 --> 01:12:59,520 for, for you to be sent on Fox News. Somebody, you know, put 1129 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,430 him out there. And I know, he didn't have any leg to stand on 1130 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,880 to, you know, make an argument for the thing they're trying to 1131 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,680 get rid of. So he made it a 1132 01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:13,170 personal attack on horse, right? Was that what that was in your 1133 01:13:13,170 --> 01:13:14,880 word? It was chicken shit. I mean, 1134 01:13:16,380 --> 01:13:19,350 I mean, I know. So I mean, I didn't like that at all. But 1135 01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:21,510 that's that's the way they do. I mean, it's just they just 1136 01:13:21,660 --> 01:13:24,180 dehumanize you, and I think that's why we that's why we 1137 01:13:24,180 --> 01:13:26,370 humanize here. So um, 1138 01:13:27,450 --> 01:13:28,980 so now we need to get to 1139 01:13:30,030 --> 01:13:35,310 examining what illustrate it and what define black individualism. 1140 01:13:35,610 --> 01:13:39,300 And we're going to talk about one of Mr. Melville john 1141 01:13:40,350 --> 01:13:43,350 archivists. Have you ever heard of him before? No, I don't think 1142 01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:46,170 so. Let me give you a little background on him, and then we 1143 01:13:46,170 --> 01:13:49,920 can jump right into a clip 13. So he was an American 1144 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,460 anthropologist who helped establish African and African 1145 01:13:53,460 --> 01:13:58,830 American studies have established, okay, I'm African 1146 01:13:58,830 --> 01:14:02,070 American Studies and American academia, he was known to know 1147 01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:06,630 for exploring the cultural continuity from African cultures 1148 01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:10,020 and spreads to African American communities. He worked for his 1149 01:14:10,020 --> 01:14:14,520 wife, I mean, work with his wife, Francis, Perkovic as an 1150 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,630 anthropologist and in the field, in South America, caribbeans 1151 01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:24,510 Africa. So he basically is the father of African American 1152 01:14:24,510 --> 01:14:28,380 History. So he would Jewish me, he would be the guy that would 1153 01:14:28,380 --> 01:14:31,320 be would know something that while he's no longer around, I 1154 01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:36,270 presume, as you know. So he died in 63. Is he involved with this 1155 01:14:36,270 --> 01:14:37,350 museum somehow? 1156 01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:45,150 Well, a lot of his work. is you know, is the is the foundation 1157 01:14:45,180 --> 01:14:50,010 is back. Yeah. is the foundation of what they teach of the 1158 01:14:50,010 --> 01:14:53,790 African aspects of a DOS. 1159 01:14:54,810 --> 01:14:59,580 Guy the the expert. Well, this getting to 13 to find out 1160 01:15:04,049 --> 01:15:05,039 In the United States, 1161 01:15:06,180 --> 01:15:10,260 obviously, one only has to look at the great degree of crossing 1162 01:15:10,590 --> 01:15:14,730 tremendous variation in color that marks American. I hear the 1163 01:15:14,730 --> 01:15:18,900 voice of Melville j herskovits. And what I wonder is, why did 1164 01:15:18,900 --> 01:15:20,940 the white man come to know so much about black people? 1165 01:15:22,740 --> 01:15:25,860 Probably more than any other American melva. herskovits is 1166 01:15:25,860 --> 01:15:29,250 the person who demonstrates that African Americans are connected 1167 01:15:29,250 --> 01:15:29,970 to Africans. 1168 01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:34,380 He was a leading anthropologist of the 20th century. But he was 1169 01:15:34,380 --> 01:15:36,030 also a kind of social paradox. 1170 01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:39,990 Do you look at Herskowitz through one angle, he sets the 1171 01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:44,400 terms for our understanding of the relationship between Africa 1172 01:15:44,580 --> 01:15:48,270 and black people on the Americans. from another angle, 1173 01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:51,270 you might see him as someone who appropriates a certain kind of 1174 01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:55,140 knowledge from another angle. He's the son of Jewish 1175 01:15:55,140 --> 01:15:57,270 immigrants, and he's trying to sort out his own position in 1176 01:15:57,270 --> 01:15:57,750 America. 1177 01:16:01,530 --> 01:16:04,140 I always like to think of him as kind of the Elvis of African 1178 01:16:04,140 --> 01:16:07,950 American Studies. On the one hand, you might think of someone 1179 01:16:07,950 --> 01:16:10,800 like Elvis as someone who takes things that blacks have already 1180 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,950 been doing, and he gets the credit for them. On the other 1181 01:16:13,950 --> 01:16:17,010 hand, you can say, Well, here's a guy who actually mainstreams 1182 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:17,880 Rock and Roll 1183 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,910 Yeah, it's a good question. That is very good question how this 1184 01:16:24,420 --> 01:16:28,770 and I don't mean to bring up his ethnicity but this Jewish man 1185 01:16:28,980 --> 01:16:33,300 jumps all the African American scholars to be the spokesperson 1186 01:16:33,330 --> 01:16:37,830 or as the the speaker put it, the Elvis Presley of black 1187 01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:41,790 history. Black Studies who either ripped it off or he 1188 01:16:41,790 --> 01:16:44,520 popularized it whichever way you want to go with it. That's a 1189 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:45,030 toughy 1190 01:16:46,260 --> 01:16:50,100 Yeah, but if you pop realize it, then you define it at the same 1191 01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:52,410 time without a problem. Yep. 1192 01:16:53,550 --> 01:16:57,600 So he he's a very interesting character. But like I said, a 1193 01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,440 lot of he was 1194 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,290 a lot of what he did was 1195 01:17:02,460 --> 01:17:06,570 the modern African American Studies is based off his his 1196 01:17:06,780 --> 01:17:11,700 work, right? It's all his own. 1920s 1930s is right when he was 1197 01:17:11,700 --> 01:17:15,210 writing all this stuff. Yeah. And even later, I think it north 1198 01:17:15,420 --> 01:17:19,080 Northwestern University, if I'm not mistaken, so we can go and 1199 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,830 get into the second clip about him. Christmas mainstream some 1200 01:17:22,830 --> 01:17:25,110 of these ideas about the connections between African and 1201 01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:26,280 African American culture. 1202 01:17:29,670 --> 01:17:33,510 Early anthropologists were committed to demonstrating that 1203 01:17:34,050 --> 01:17:39,120 black people were inferior. Many people believed black culture 1204 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,180 was a bad copy of white culture. Look, I you know, if black 1205 01:17:42,180 --> 01:17:45,330 people have been ignored, not listened to their part of the 1206 01:17:45,330 --> 01:17:49,200 story is not being told. For centuries, it's understandable 1207 01:17:49,410 --> 01:17:52,920 that black scholars can't, waiting in line behind some 1208 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:57,330 white guy to tell the story that they want to tell. What is the 1209 01:17:57,330 --> 01:18:00,570 Negro in the sense that the term is used in the United States? 1210 01:18:02,370 --> 01:18:04,560 Does it mean to ask what is a negro? 1211 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,650 What is a negro as a physical type? 1212 01:18:08,910 --> 01:18:11,220 What is a negro is an existential condition. 1213 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:13,740 What does the Negro want? 1214 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,150 How do we understand African American belonging over time? 1215 01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:26,010 Does the right to define and describe and observe people give 1216 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:30,270 you power over those people? Does the right to really 1217 01:18:30,420 --> 01:18:33,090 characterize a people determine their fate? 1218 01:18:34,860 --> 01:18:38,730 Yeah, but it does. Absolutely. And the reason why I brought 1219 01:18:38,730 --> 01:18:41,610 this up, is that the same way he did it, then 1220 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:47,130 the same way it's being done. Now, yeah, we can't define who 1221 01:18:47,130 --> 01:18:51,720 we are for ourselves, is always another person from outside the 1222 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:57,150 group that's defining who we are, which that impacts the 1223 01:18:57,150 --> 01:19:02,760 individualism. And that's why you have somebody like, Scotty 1224 01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:04,920 attack Horace, because like you're not sticking to who we 1225 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:09,240 supposed to be. Like, it's like, how about we be who we are, and 1226 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:14,220 then the collective are defined by the individuals. But no, it's 1227 01:19:14,250 --> 01:19:17,160 a group thing. It's a it's a it's mind control is what it is. 1228 01:19:17,190 --> 01:19:20,880 I mean, yeah. in a weird way, quote, unquote. 1229 01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:27,360 Well, no, it is black blackness is is a, like a set form of set 1230 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,700 rules that you have to conform to. 1231 01:19:33,150 --> 01:19:36,210 I guess the most one of his most polarizing books, was this the 1232 01:19:36,210 --> 01:19:41,970 myth of the Negro past? Yes. And we're talking about early 1900s 1233 01:19:41,970 --> 01:19:44,790 when he was doing his work. It's not like he was back in, you 1234 01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:51,030 know, 1619 right now, that's actually 1941. Yeah. So he 1235 01:19:51,030 --> 01:19:54,960 writes these books in the early to mid 1900s. Yeah. What were we 1236 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,190 before them? I mean, you had like we didn't have a Frederick 1237 01:19:59,190 --> 01:19:59,970 Douglass in it. 1238 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,720 Booker T Washington and these people defining who we are here 1239 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,080 to come this guy come along. I know who the Negro is everybody 1240 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:11,040 relax. Let me tell you who the Negro is. It's like what I see. 1241 01:20:12,269 --> 01:20:15,839 W Ed Dubois did a review of it. I'll have to read that. But 1242 01:20:15,839 --> 01:20:18,269 that's pretty Yeah. Hey, can you send me that link? Because I 1243 01:20:18,269 --> 01:20:21,179 would love to hear read that as well what he had to say, Yeah, I 1244 01:20:21,179 --> 01:20:25,349 just wanted to be funny. I just want to show like, you know, how 1245 01:20:26,129 --> 01:20:30,269 we are never allowed to define ourselves. And even with this 1246 01:20:30,269 --> 01:20:35,159 museum, everything was defined for us. It was like, Oh, no, 1247 01:20:35,159 --> 01:20:38,069 Clarence Thomas. No conservatives, and I'm not like 1248 01:20:38,069 --> 01:20:42,209 I said, I'm not a big clarence thomas fan. He had some problems 1249 01:20:42,209 --> 01:20:45,659 with some of the things he said, but making it to the Supreme 1250 01:20:45,659 --> 01:20:47,849 Court should get you an automatic spot. 1251 01:20:50,190 --> 01:20:53,250 Kind of get on that. Did you see the people who were on the Board 1252 01:20:53,340 --> 01:20:58,260 of Ed interesting. Right. So I mean, that that goes to show you 1253 01:20:58,260 --> 01:21:01,260 is that is not the all encompassing black. 1254 01:21:02,460 --> 01:21:06,000 It's that this is the narrative that we want to tell about black 1255 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:11,430 people. Well, Quincy Jones is on the council. Well, Quincy, 1256 01:21:11,460 --> 01:21:12,240 Quincy Jones. Yeah. 1257 01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:15,810 I mean, Quincy is cool. You know, Quincy, bring sex appeal 1258 01:21:15,810 --> 01:21:21,180 to any board. Right. Let me see. Shonda Rhimes shaundalyn in the 1259 01:21:21,180 --> 01:21:24,450 house. Oh, look, at no wonder we got a great marriage. 1260 01:21:26,850 --> 01:21:29,340 And we brought in Colin Powell. 1261 01:21:31,710 --> 01:21:35,010 You know what? Color piles are very interesting. 1262 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:40,680 I've met him I'm, I'm not a fan of General Power. I'm just 1263 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:45,450 saying the way he he saw the way that these things was going. And 1264 01:21:45,450 --> 01:21:49,140 he did a real quick pivot on his politics. Oh, yeah. 1265 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,450 Because he knew he had to stay around. And if he stay stuck to 1266 01:21:54,450 --> 01:21:59,490 his guns, he would not survive the canceled culture right. Now, 1267 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,200 I totally agree. Totally. 1268 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,430 All right. So this is a great group. I wonder if they get 1269 01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:07,830 together? They must have some I'm sure they 1270 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,540 have a great, great drinking club. This looks fantastic. 1271 01:22:14,340 --> 01:22:15,330 And drinks on the menu. 1272 01:22:18,180 --> 01:22:20,910 First order of business. How about that building we put down 1273 01:22:20,910 --> 01:22:24,330 huh? How about that for some crazy Illuminati crap. And 1274 01:22:24,330 --> 01:22:30,030 where's those $65,000 hot dogs? Go on to number 15. Professor 1275 01:22:30,030 --> 01:22:32,970 herskovits was no ordinary professor. 1276 01:22:34,140 --> 01:22:41,190 This man was a force. And you did not take him on lightly. 1277 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:48,390 Although I can't list all of the do's and don'ts that Professor 1278 01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:54,240 herskovits put out there. Certainly, among the don'ts was 1279 01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:54,900 the following. 1280 01:22:55,980 --> 01:23:00,090 Don't get involved in political stuff. 1281 01:23:03,030 --> 01:23:06,780 That was that was a difficult message for me to hear. 1282 01:23:08,250 --> 01:23:11,160 But even as a graduate student, I think I knew 1283 01:23:12,180 --> 01:23:17,790 almost anything, had its political side to it, 1284 01:23:19,410 --> 01:23:24,390 including by Professor herskovits was writing and 1285 01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:24,750 doing. 1286 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:35,370 The myths were endless. You will hear jokingly, of course, every 1287 01:23:35,370 --> 01:23:35,850 day. 1288 01:23:37,500 --> 01:23:43,020 Professor herskovits gets up, looks into a mirror and says ah 1289 01:23:43,470 --> 01:23:45,420 Afrique. Same law. 1290 01:23:47,850 --> 01:23:54,480 That was our quick way of saying Professor herskovits seem to 1291 01:23:54,480 --> 01:23:57,930 think sometime videoed Africa. 1292 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:00,210 It was his. 1293 01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,320 And even as a graduate student. 1294 01:24:05,610 --> 01:24:11,070 We wondered if sometimes his reign wasn't too tightly held. 1295 01:24:13,980 --> 01:24:20,040 Why weren't there more African and African American scholars at 1296 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:21,300 Northwestern 1297 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:26,610 he ran a tight ship. 1298 01:24:30,900 --> 01:24:38,220 It always amazes me that these non black people can come in, 1299 01:24:39,420 --> 01:24:45,000 take over and tell you how blackness is going to be ran. 1300 01:24:45,630 --> 01:24:48,150 And he's like, Don't question me. You heard her. She worked 1301 01:24:48,150 --> 01:24:51,300 with him closely. And I mean, she was fond of him. I mean, I 1302 01:24:51,300 --> 01:24:55,020 mean, it's not like she, you know, had bad things to say 1303 01:24:55,020 --> 01:24:59,070 about him. I think her feedback was honest that it becomes an 1304 01:24:59,100 --> 01:24:59,970 ownership like 1305 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,770 I own the blacks. 1306 01:25:03,300 --> 01:25:04,590 I speak for the blacks. 1307 01:25:06,779 --> 01:25:12,299 wishes I didn't find it very disgusting. Yes. So how much how 1308 01:25:12,299 --> 01:25:15,719 much this modern stuff is based off of him? Is it? Is he really 1309 01:25:15,719 --> 01:25:20,999 the foundation? Like all of this is based off of his work? Yes. 1310 01:25:21,029 --> 01:25:25,439 The Odd African theory. I mean, we're not the set theory per se, 1311 01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:29,519 but the the origin of black people in America out of Africa, 1312 01:25:29,909 --> 01:25:32,729 and the narrative and what I'm saying, but he was defining this 1313 01:25:32,729 --> 01:25:38,459 the 1940s. Yeah. For 1619 1940. He comes along with all I could 1314 01:25:38,459 --> 01:25:41,999 tell you what exactly what happened in those 300 years. 1315 01:25:42,209 --> 01:25:45,689 Right incident. Alex Haley, again, is an inspiration for 1316 01:25:45,719 --> 01:25:49,649 roots from this. No, I was heavy guys inspiration for somewhere 1317 01:25:49,649 --> 01:25:49,889 else. 1318 01:25:53,190 --> 01:25:55,560 Every show, all different show. 1319 01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,750 But yeah, I mean, but that's that that was the beginning of 1320 01:26:00,750 --> 01:26:03,390 the narrative for the pan africanism. And those kind of 1321 01:26:03,390 --> 01:26:08,280 things, which I was saying, well, that's amazing now is 1322 01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,760 never heard this name before. Exactly. 1323 01:26:14,370 --> 01:26:17,010 herskovits. And it's with an S at the end, which is very 1324 01:26:17,010 --> 01:26:20,610 distinctive. It's not a z herskovits. Yes, never heard of 1325 01:26:20,610 --> 01:26:21,990 this guy. Interesting. 1326 01:26:23,190 --> 01:26:26,730 What he comes in, and he defines what blackness is in the mid in 1327 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:31,710 the mid 1900s, which I just find fascinating. Peter has so many 1328 01:26:31,710 --> 01:26:34,410 great thought leaders 1329 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,330 at the time, and he just comes along and do hijacks didn t know 1330 01:26:39,330 --> 01:26:42,480 the narrative, which of course, he had the money behind him. So 1331 01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:45,450 that's the other thing. And what you'll find out now is what 1332 01:26:45,450 --> 01:26:50,820 you'll start to find out is that the academics go with where the 1333 01:26:50,820 --> 01:26:54,810 funding goes, Oh, and we've seen this with preaching the choir 1334 01:26:54,810 --> 01:26:57,300 here with global warming and those things, but it's no 1335 01:26:57,300 --> 01:27:03,360 different. It's like my job is to, to be a scholar, the money's 1336 01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,180 coming in. So I have to make a narrative this and that's what 1337 01:27:06,180 --> 01:27:10,020 they're saying about him being Elvis. It's like, do you let 1338 01:27:10,050 --> 01:27:12,960 Elvis come in and make rock or roll take it through the roof? 1339 01:27:13,230 --> 01:27:17,940 And all of our sales go up, you know, for the genre, but at the 1340 01:27:17,940 --> 01:27:21,780 same time, now rock and roll is not even identified as a black 1341 01:27:21,780 --> 01:27:25,620 music form. Yeah, because you let somebody else. 1342 01:27:26,970 --> 01:27:31,050 And that may be the choice that ultimately is is the downside of 1343 01:27:31,050 --> 01:27:32,670 capitalism, I guess. 1344 01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:37,320 True. That that may be one of those things that is like, wow, 1345 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,110 you gotta have a strong, strong, strong hands. 1346 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,330 To say no, no, we should do this differently. So since we're 1347 01:27:45,330 --> 01:27:48,570 defining what black is, we have to go back to show nine and 1348 01:27:48,570 --> 01:27:51,600 this. We played this several times on here, but it's always 1349 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,350 good to see how the one drop rule define blackness in 1350 01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:55,890 America. 1351 01:27:57,150 --> 01:28:00,120 Explain what the one drop rule is. The one drop rule, 1352 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,330 historically, also known as a rule of hypo descent was really 1353 01:28:03,330 --> 01:28:06,270 instituted to protect whiteness, it was a way for the white 1354 01:28:06,270 --> 01:28:10,470 majority to be able to name and incite who was white. So it was 1355 01:28:10,470 --> 01:28:15,450 one drop, which is 130, second 130, second of Negro or African 1356 01:28:15,450 --> 01:28:18,540 blood would make that person Negro or African. Whatever the 1357 01:28:18,540 --> 01:28:21,030 classification they used at the time I hear people say we're 1358 01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:24,570 going to post racial society, the reality is, in order to get 1359 01:28:24,570 --> 01:28:27,570 beyond something, you have to understand it right. And where 1360 01:28:27,570 --> 01:28:30,510 in your education, where have you been required to learn about 1361 01:28:30,510 --> 01:28:34,950 race? They don't teach it. No, it is the foundation of this 1362 01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:38,700 country. We have to talk about race, we have to talk about 1363 01:28:38,700 --> 01:28:41,850 racial difference. It is just a flat out lie for us to believe 1364 01:28:41,850 --> 01:28:43,290 that we've moved beyond race. 1365 01:28:45,660 --> 01:28:50,670 And that's the thing that when we say black, that's defined by 1366 01:28:51,330 --> 01:28:55,350 a legal designation, yeah, it's not skin color. I mean, I know I 1367 01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:58,680 beat this missing this dead horse, but we have to say that 1368 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:04,320 because, um, people, people easily slip back into the color 1369 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:08,520 thing. And it's not about color, it's about what you identify 1370 01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:09,270 legally. 1371 01:29:10,860 --> 01:29:11,550 So 1372 01:29:13,020 --> 01:29:18,240 there, they're doing, I'm gonna say this black Americans, a das 1373 01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,930 foundation of black native blacks. We're going through a 1374 01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,540 divinity, self identification phase. 1375 01:29:28,980 --> 01:29:35,130 Because we're saying, okay, we're not Africans per se. 1376 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:41,400 And, you know, we have our own lineage, we have our own story, 1377 01:29:41,430 --> 01:29:46,590 we have our own origin. So who are we? And that's upsetting. So 1378 01:29:46,590 --> 01:29:50,460 a lot of people because if you start saying that 13% splinters 1379 01:29:50,460 --> 01:29:56,340 to eight five split 10 three split. That changes politics 1380 01:29:56,340 --> 01:29:59,970 that changes the way proceed. 1381 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,690 power structure. Yes. Excellent term, it changes everything. So 1382 01:30:06,690 --> 01:30:09,330 people like no, no, no, no crawling back in, you got to 1383 01:30:09,330 --> 01:30:09,750 correct. 1384 01:30:11,550 --> 01:30:15,360 Is this? Are you in fact, a part of a 1385 01:30:18,180 --> 01:30:19,020 black 1386 01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:22,290 renaissance man 1387 01:30:23,550 --> 01:30:29,400 as black, I think, possibly social media more access to 1388 01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:33,000 publishing your thoughts in different media, so not just 1389 01:30:33,870 --> 01:30:40,620 Twitter. But there's also there's music? I know, clubhouse 1390 01:30:40,620 --> 01:30:44,940 is the it's probably one of the blackest apps out there? Or was 1391 01:30:44,970 --> 01:30:47,520 was I think that's gonna end you watch. 1392 01:30:49,380 --> 01:30:52,620 I know how that goes. Yeah, you're not gonna see and, you 1393 01:30:52,620 --> 01:30:56,460 know, and and you it's like, there's a, an awakening and 1394 01:30:56,460 --> 01:31:01,230 awareness and a positioning of the black American male. 1395 01:31:02,340 --> 01:31:02,940 That 1396 01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,410 is probably happening on one hand, because you're being 1397 01:31:07,410 --> 01:31:09,150 suppressed and you're being suppressed because it's 1398 01:31:09,150 --> 01:31:12,000 happening. And your message is not necessarily. 1399 01:31:13,170 --> 01:31:16,920 Let's go to the club popping bottles and, and let's, you 1400 01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,980 know, drive around and and show our bling. Now it's something 1401 01:31:19,980 --> 01:31:23,130 completely different. And it was a place 1402 01:31:25,590 --> 01:31:29,370 that was the loud minority, right? The very small minority. 1403 01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:34,320 And what people like me are saying is, we want to be self 1404 01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:38,580 defined. We don't want to be defined by the boulais. We don't 1405 01:31:38,580 --> 01:31:41,490 want to be defined by the African American Museum, we 1406 01:31:41,490 --> 01:31:45,630 don't want to be defined by a white academia. We want to 1407 01:31:45,690 --> 01:31:50,160 define who we are. Okay, now, let's figure out what that is. 1408 01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:53,280 And that's, that's the journey we're on. And we've been here 1409 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:57,480 before, like, it's a synchronicity to it because in 1410 01:31:57,480 --> 01:32:03,270 the 1920s, we're kind of in the same spot. of in Harlem on every 1411 01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:05,640 street corner, you have somebody with a different 1412 01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,780 uh, what blackness was a different definition of 1413 01:32:12,780 --> 01:32:15,810 blackness. And it was like, okay, it was a market for ideas. 1414 01:32:16,020 --> 01:32:18,240 And that's kind of what the internet that was wired, like, 1415 01:32:19,290 --> 01:32:22,830 realism in the 20s. You mean, yet, same thing. Now 1416 01:32:22,830 --> 01:32:25,860 entrepreneurial ism, because it was it opened up, it was like, 1417 01:32:25,860 --> 01:32:31,200 Okay, now we can do business. Um, so now you have independent 1418 01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,620 thinkers, we're now used to get like a soap box and go in a 1419 01:32:34,620 --> 01:32:37,470 corner, and you are in this corner. And you know, the guys 1420 01:32:37,470 --> 01:32:40,410 on the other corner. Now we're on YouTube channels. And now 1421 01:32:40,410 --> 01:32:46,020 we're on a social media post. And we're saying, and we're 1422 01:32:46,020 --> 01:32:49,830 finding people that have similar thoughts to ourselves, or who 1423 01:32:49,830 --> 01:32:53,160 has good facts or who has good data. It's not about narrative 1424 01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,560 anymore. And that's why they want to double down on 1425 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,200 narrative. Because if you don't have the facts, you got to 1426 01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:02,400 double down on there. So it is partially a great self 1427 01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:06,300 identification process, simultaneous, building your own 1428 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:11,010 narrative and positioning as where black American men want to 1429 01:33:11,010 --> 01:33:11,370 be. 1430 01:33:12,810 --> 01:33:16,470 Yes, because when you define whiteness, you say whiteness is 1431 01:33:16,470 --> 01:33:22,020 the problem. That's juxtaposed to blackness. Not Brown. Not 1432 01:33:22,020 --> 01:33:26,790 color is blackness, you know, um, so that's, that they're 1433 01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:29,460 like, wow, like, it's a lot of information leaking out, and 1434 01:33:29,460 --> 01:33:32,970 people thinking and talking, and what do we do? You know, it's, 1435 01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:36,900 it's a lot of, you know, it's a lot of uncertainty. And it's, 1436 01:33:37,980 --> 01:33:42,690 so they have their key. That's why you see, these need, and 1437 01:33:42,690 --> 01:33:44,790 shows all we need to make more black movies. I mean, they make 1438 01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:49,350 more, you know, for example, Black Panther, which I was in, I 1439 01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:54,450 was in Central Market. And it was in the central market was it 1440 01:33:54,450 --> 01:33:57,180 was we had a crisis here. So everything's, you know, all the 1441 01:33:57,180 --> 01:34:00,600 shelves are empty, but are not all of them, but some of the key 1442 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,660 ones. And so I'm looking all around the store, all of a 1443 01:34:03,660 --> 01:34:07,830 sudden, this is like whole, separate, Stan has got wine on 1444 01:34:07,830 --> 01:34:12,570 it. It's got preservatives on it, like what is this? And they 1445 01:34:12,570 --> 01:34:15,900 had a whole separate section in the store mode for black owned 1446 01:34:15,900 --> 01:34:16,860 businesses. 1447 01:34:18,270 --> 01:34:21,150 I'm like, What the hell? What the hell is this? 1448 01:34:22,260 --> 01:34:25,650 I'll be shopping for wine and jam at the same time. And what 1449 01:34:25,650 --> 01:34:28,860 are you trying to tell me here? It was very bizarre. 1450 01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:35,280 That it's there. Come on back home. Come on back. We'll give 1451 01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,860 you a shelf. Just don't get your own store. 1452 01:34:38,910 --> 01:34:43,170 You see, you understand what's going on is let's make it so 1453 01:34:43,170 --> 01:34:48,090 comfortable. That you don't want to leave. Yeah, you've 1454 01:34:48,090 --> 01:34:50,580 completely opened my eyes. I mean, I see these things 1455 01:34:50,580 --> 01:34:54,090 everywhere now. Like, and I'm so happy to hear you say we're so 1456 01:34:54,090 --> 01:34:57,570 sick of the virtue signaling, because that's what I see. Oh my 1457 01:34:57,570 --> 01:34:58,980 god, like stop. 1458 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,960 Do is pander to a person. Of course, when you pander to a 1459 01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,080 person, what you're saying is you're a petty, 1460 01:35:10,620 --> 01:35:14,160 literal literal. That's literally the definition, their 1461 01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,880 definition of white supremacy. You're inferior. So we have to 1462 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:22,140 cater to, you know, to bring you up to our level. Aren't we so 1463 01:35:22,140 --> 01:35:22,740 kind. 1464 01:35:24,780 --> 01:35:28,920 So I want to talk quickly about Black Panther because that was 1465 01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:33,960 one of the last gaffes to bring black people back into the fold 1466 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:39,300 of Africa. They're bringing that back, but yeah, well, the 1467 01:35:39,300 --> 01:35:43,740 original when I saw them, once again, nothing is nothing is no 1468 01:35:43,740 --> 01:35:46,980 pun intended. Nothing is black or white. Cuz like cool Black 1469 01:35:46,980 --> 01:35:51,450 Panther. Okay, my son can watch no movie and no see got like 1470 01:35:51,450 --> 01:35:55,800 heroes and no of different varieties and just cool. But 1471 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,870 when you break that, and I'm gonna do a whole show on this 1472 01:35:57,870 --> 01:36:01,290 eventually, one day, but just a quick synopsis of Black Panther, 1473 01:36:01,290 --> 01:36:05,310 what happens is, you have an African Prince come to America 1474 01:36:05,970 --> 01:36:09,780 to try to help black people. And they come here and I guess they 1475 01:36:09,780 --> 01:36:13,080 kill him. And they leave your son killmonger, behind, which is 1476 01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:18,870 half African American or a DOS, half wakandan. And when he goes 1477 01:36:18,870 --> 01:36:23,250 back and fights the real black, the standard existing Black 1478 01:36:23,250 --> 01:36:25,350 Panther, he beats on fair square. 1479 01:36:26,610 --> 01:36:29,820 And then the wakandans team up with the CIA to take him out of 1480 01:36:29,820 --> 01:36:31,770 power. Crazy. Holy shit. 1481 01:36:34,830 --> 01:36:38,370 Excuse me for cursing. I mean, what is like what? Yeah. 1482 01:36:39,690 --> 01:36:45,690 Put all that back again. And the guy has actual rights to the 1483 01:36:45,690 --> 01:36:49,530 throne. Yeah. Through his father. Yeah. He goes back and 1484 01:36:49,530 --> 01:36:53,880 wins it fair and square. And then they work with the CIA to 1485 01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:56,550 take him out of power because he said, Let's take our resources 1486 01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,340 and give it to black people across the world. And they're 1487 01:36:59,340 --> 01:37:00,480 No, no, no, no, you can't do that. 1488 01:37:02,190 --> 01:37:05,250 You can't be doing that. So that's what Disney is putting 1489 01:37:05,250 --> 01:37:07,050 out. Now you see? 1490 01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:12,330 Me? Oh, my conflict here is like, Yeah, but that review that 1491 01:37:12,330 --> 01:37:16,170 you just gave there in? In five sentences? No One No One heard 1492 01:37:16,170 --> 01:37:19,890 that review anywhere? Of course not because it was dashi keys 1493 01:37:19,890 --> 01:37:20,580 and dancing. 1494 01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:26,340 Dancing double D's not lit. No, literally, literally, and you 1495 01:37:26,340 --> 01:37:29,160 will see it again. I'm calling it again. You're gonna see that. 1496 01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:35,010 But guess what, what happened? The Black Panther black male has 1497 01:37:35,010 --> 01:37:37,710 been taken out. And guess who's gonna be the new black panther? 1498 01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,560 His sister? Yep. Woman. 1499 01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:45,030 Which I ain't ruling out sacrifice on him. But 1500 01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,780 it is kind of convenient, isn't it? 1501 01:37:50,910 --> 01:37:54,630 Very convenient. But reason why the reason why I bring it. 1502 01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:58,950 I'm gonna give you just a little bit of theramin for that. That 1503 01:37:58,950 --> 01:38:02,670 was I like that. I always thought, Man, what a shame this 1504 01:38:02,670 --> 01:38:06,270 young guy, you know, but now you bring in that that's going on? 1505 01:38:07,950 --> 01:38:11,040 Because it would be a never ending argument. You know, you 1506 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,370 can't just you couldn't just replace him? No, because you 1507 01:38:14,370 --> 01:38:18,120 lose half your market. Yeah. But this is very convenient. 1508 01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:23,580 The reason why I bring up the Black Panther is because somehow 1509 01:38:23,580 --> 01:38:30,690 Wakanda has become the black utopia. And this speaks to how 1510 01:38:30,690 --> 01:38:34,590 silly things are. We're talking about fake country in a fake 1511 01:38:34,590 --> 01:38:38,910 movie. Yeah, we didn't do this with was the moon day we're 1512 01:38:38,910 --> 01:38:42,540 coming to America. We say oh, we were gonna create onto the moon 1513 01:38:42,540 --> 01:38:46,800 Did you know I mean, but now? Well, I do remember a lot of 1514 01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,680 jokes going and we were joking around a lot back in the day 1515 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,100 when that came, you know, people actually think they're going to 1516 01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:56,700 create their own Wakanda. And it's like, unless you have a 1517 01:38:56,700 --> 01:38:58,020 natural resource like that. 1518 01:39:00,060 --> 01:39:03,600 Okay, you don't believe me? I'm gonna need a trigger warning 1519 01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:06,870 before I play this next clip, because it's from a guy named 1520 01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:09,810 salty cracker. So that explains that explain. 1521 01:39:10,890 --> 01:39:15,090 No, no, not the salty cracker. Yeah, the salty cracker. So 1522 01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:18,390 I want to cover this story. 1523 01:39:30,150 --> 01:39:34,530 All right, can we go straight into it educator fired a Bronx 1524 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:38,250 school Super Nintendo says that she was fired as a result of 1525 01:39:38,250 --> 01:39:42,060 Chancellor Richard karatzas equity agenda my friends that 1526 01:39:42,060 --> 01:39:46,230 advanced people of color over whites. Karen Ames is suing the 1527 01:39:46,230 --> 01:39:48,930 New York schools for $150 billion 1528 01:39:50,430 --> 01:39:55,140 Zimbabwean dollars right $150 million, because she says that 1529 01:39:55,140 --> 01:39:58,440 she was targeted by Quran says quote disrupt and dismantle 1530 01:39:58,440 --> 01:40:00,000 campaign to oust or 1531 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,230 marginalize longtime employees. She's in one of these things. 1532 01:40:04,380 --> 01:40:06,900 Ames was grilled about her quote, ethnic background 1533 01:40:06,930 --> 01:40:10,860 chastised by a colleague at a training session when she shared 1534 01:40:10,860 --> 01:40:14,220 her grandparents experience during the Holocaust in Poland, 1535 01:40:14,550 --> 01:40:18,030 and that she was admonished when she declined a request at Super 1536 01:40:18,030 --> 01:40:21,270 Nintendos meetings to take part in comic book movie inspired 1537 01:40:21,300 --> 01:40:25,440 look onto forever slowed to Black Power she charges illegal 1538 01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:29,160 filing games was praised by carozza in a visit to her Bronx 1539 01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,890 school he praised her for raising math scores at a 1540 01:40:31,890 --> 01:40:33,720 troubled school but see they don't care about that. 1541 01:40:35,850 --> 01:40:36,690 Racist man. 1542 01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:44,370 She was fired. And this is New York Post New York Post you 1543 01:40:44,370 --> 01:40:47,790 could probably look it up Bronx educator claims she was fired at 1544 01:40:47,790 --> 01:40:51,060 the sharing Holocaust story, refusing to recount Wakanda 1545 01:40:51,060 --> 01:40:57,000 salute. She went into the wickedness loop, which was to be 1546 01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:01,080 honest with you, the Wakanda Salut is actually the expo 1547 01:41:01,110 --> 01:41:05,760 Osiris in Egypt. You know, when they used to bury him? Yeah, 1548 01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:10,620 they bury him like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. This district 1549 01:41:10,620 --> 01:41:14,640 of Cairo. You're saying Yeah. Oh, man. 1550 01:41:16,980 --> 01:41:21,030 is right there. And the thing is, this lady looks like Kamala 1551 01:41:21,030 --> 01:41:24,330 Harris. When you look at her picture, I mean, like me, she 1552 01:41:24,330 --> 01:41:29,640 favors Kamala Harris. I'm looking right now. Man, man, 1553 01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:33,990 man, man. What what? This will come to thing man that's a mind 1554 01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:38,850 control right there. It is. Cuz I see it popping up everywhere. 1555 01:41:38,850 --> 01:41:41,340 jokingly you know, like, Hey, brother, what's going on with 1556 01:41:41,340 --> 01:41:45,060 that? No joke. No, this is not a joke. It's not but I see him 1557 01:41:45,060 --> 01:41:49,020 jokingly I see it I see it. And I'm like, Yeah, whatever. But 1558 01:41:49,020 --> 01:41:51,540 now you bring it up. It's like Wow, she does look like Kamala 1559 01:41:51,540 --> 01:41:56,400 Harris. A bit a little rougher which is a racially ambiguous I 1560 01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:57,270 mean, you saw 1561 01:41:58,650 --> 01:42:02,880 I mean, like it could be I mean, like you had to do to double 1562 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,160 check. I did have to look twice Yeah. 1563 01:42:07,140 --> 01:42:07,620 Wow. 1564 01:42:09,060 --> 01:42:12,270 Man this is why I brought that up while blog brought up Black 1565 01:42:12,270 --> 01:42:16,740 Panther because Wow, people are getting fired over not doing the 1566 01:42:16,740 --> 01:42:19,860 Wakanda salute. Are you kidding me? 1567 01:42:22,590 --> 01:42:24,120 So that is 1568 01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:26,730 well 1569 01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:33,180 can I get a capsule culture capsule cannon for Mr. Van 1570 01:42:33,180 --> 01:42:34,980 Jones, please cuz he's up. He's next. 1571 01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:41,100 Van. Oh van he was on. 1572 01:42:42,180 --> 01:42:47,070 He was on the view. He was brought to task to working with 1573 01:42:47,070 --> 01:42:50,970 the enemy. Oh, man, you do spend a lot of time you know, 1574 01:42:50,970 --> 01:42:54,180 threading the middle and trying to unite people. But there are 1575 01:42:54,180 --> 01:42:57,210 those who really accuse you of being a political opportunists, 1576 01:42:57,210 --> 01:43:00,810 a chameleon, so to speak, who provided a racial cover four 1577 01:43:00,810 --> 01:43:04,530 former disgrace twice impeached President Trump. You said this, 1578 01:43:04,530 --> 01:43:07,470 and I quote, Donald Trump and I get beat up by liberals every 1579 01:43:07,470 --> 01:43:10,440 time I say this, but I'm gonna keep saying it. He has done good 1580 01:43:10,440 --> 01:43:13,260 stuff for the black community. opportunity's own stuff, black 1581 01:43:13,260 --> 01:43:16,260 college stuff. There's a side to Donald Trump that I think he 1582 01:43:16,260 --> 01:43:21,750 does not get enough credit. yet. Just recently, you tried on CNN 1583 01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:25,740 when Joe Biden was elected the 46th President, and you said 1584 01:43:25,770 --> 01:43:28,650 it's easier to be a parent now. Character matters. Now truth 1585 01:43:28,650 --> 01:43:32,160 matters. You even mentioned George Floyd and said a lot of 1586 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:35,580 people felt they couldn't breathe. People in the black 1587 01:43:35,580 --> 01:43:39,150 community don't trust you anymore. What is your response? 1588 01:43:39,450 --> 01:43:40,530 What Wait a minute. 1589 01:43:41,820 --> 01:43:44,340 Who is asking the question? That's that Sonny? 1590 01:43:45,540 --> 01:43:48,990 Oh, she speaks on behalf of the black community and she can she 1591 01:43:48,990 --> 01:43:52,410 can say that. She's late to the party because we didn't trust me 1592 01:43:52,410 --> 01:43:53,310 for a long time. 1593 01:43:55,980 --> 01:43:56,160 Television 1594 01:43:59,070 --> 01:43:59,700 Yeah. 1595 01:44:00,900 --> 01:44:02,760 Oh, wow. Cooler man. I'm so 1596 01:44:04,050 --> 01:44:08,640 real real quick, man. If you want to know van van, he's done. 1597 01:44:08,970 --> 01:44:12,060 And it's bigger reasons. I'm gonna get into that later. But 1598 01:44:12,630 --> 01:44:17,370 van Charles explains explain in 19. But it doesn't work out. You 1599 01:44:17,670 --> 01:44:22,080 know, Black Lives Matter. Math matters to 80% of black folks 1600 01:44:24,330 --> 01:44:28,980 that are run in part or home by Republicans, red states and 1601 01:44:28,980 --> 01:44:32,580 purple states. So when you can pass a law as my team has done 1602 01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:39,390 in a Louisiana, in a Georgia in a 1603 01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:45,450 California, Michigan, red states, blue states and purple 1604 01:44:45,450 --> 01:44:49,530 states to get people home. The people behind bars are not 1605 01:44:49,530 --> 01:44:52,230 sitting up. You're worried to get me out of prison, Dan, but 1606 01:44:52,230 --> 01:44:55,320 whatever you do, don't talk to a Republican. They say get me out 1607 01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,950 of prison. And I am proud of the fact that my team at the reform 1608 01:44:58,950 --> 01:44:59,970 Alliance dreams 1609 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,510 Core and cut 50 have been able to work with anybody to get off 1610 01:45:03,510 --> 01:45:07,500 home. And a certain point, we got to stop focusing on rhetoric 1611 01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:10,050 and look at result. People that may not like everything I have 1612 01:45:10,050 --> 01:45:13,320 said on television, I tried to be balanced. But look at what 1613 01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:17,190 I've done, who among my critics have been able to get people 1614 01:45:17,190 --> 01:45:20,310 together to help us at the bottom? When we fight like this 1615 01:45:20,310 --> 01:45:23,250 about everything, and you can't get anybody even a little bit of 1616 01:45:23,250 --> 01:45:26,880 credit for anything? Who hurts? It's not the politicians. It's 1617 01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:30,510 not the pundits is regular folks who don't have anything, people 1618 01:45:30,510 --> 01:45:33,240 who can't vote because they're in jail. We have to put their 1619 01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:36,270 interests first. I'm never going to apologize for putting the 1620 01:45:36,270 --> 01:45:39,180 interest of people at the bottom first, people need champions, 1621 01:45:39,180 --> 01:45:41,850 whoever is in that white house. I got a responsibility to go in 1622 01:45:41,850 --> 01:45:45,150 there and advocate and try to get people home out of prison. 1623 01:45:45,150 --> 01:45:47,220 I'm gonna keep doing it. Whoever's in that white house. 1624 01:45:50,580 --> 01:45:53,250 No vans not gonna work. First of all, 1625 01:45:54,510 --> 01:45:58,410 first of all, newsflash fan. Math is racist. Yeah, so you 1626 01:45:58,410 --> 01:46:00,570 might want to leave that out if you're 1627 01:46:03,540 --> 01:46:10,110 defending yourself. And, um, but it ain't gonna work. Because now 1628 01:46:10,110 --> 01:46:14,340 you're like I said, even a Van Jones, you go on TV, you cry. 1629 01:46:14,670 --> 01:46:19,530 You know, you, you know, you can't have any leanings towards 1630 01:46:19,530 --> 01:46:23,070 working with the other side at all, or is cancellation but 1631 01:46:23,070 --> 01:46:27,120 there's a ulterior motive to cancel the van. And we're gonna 1632 01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,310 get to that. Did you want to make a comment before we get 1633 01:46:29,310 --> 01:46:33,870 into the next? I was gonna say that I've always appreciated Van 1634 01:46:33,870 --> 01:46:37,650 Jones. No matter what he did. I'd like to I'd like to crying. 1635 01:46:37,650 --> 01:46:40,830 I think that's great. It makes for great clips. 1636 01:46:42,300 --> 01:46:45,060 It I think it's hard to in the right place. It's just he's got 1637 01:46:45,060 --> 01:46:49,710 an he actually becomes the canary in the coal mine. You 1638 01:46:49,710 --> 01:46:54,270 know, it's like, you can't have it both ways. In today's 1639 01:46:54,270 --> 01:46:58,500 culture. It just doesn't work that way. Yeah. So and if that's 1640 01:46:58,500 --> 01:47:02,100 the thing, that's the thing that you were saying about, um, I 1641 01:47:02,100 --> 01:47:04,890 used to have a problem with van but when I heard the interview, 1642 01:47:04,890 --> 01:47:07,230 we talked we heard him talking about he's a natural crier. He's 1643 01:47:07,230 --> 01:47:10,440 been a crier, since a kid. I used to think that was a ploy. 1644 01:47:11,010 --> 01:47:14,460 But when you come to find out, like I said, humanizing. When 1645 01:47:14,460 --> 01:47:17,730 they saw him as a human and say, Okay, well, your natural crier, 1646 01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:19,680 knock yourself out. I mean, that's what you do. And this 1647 01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,170 time because like, Man, this stuff, he says, Here I like, you 1648 01:47:22,170 --> 01:47:25,020 know, it's like, most of what he's saying is good, but that's 1649 01:47:25,020 --> 01:47:28,590 not good. Not gonna help. Well, the thing is, he thought he 1650 01:47:28,590 --> 01:47:33,240 could, and this is what a lot of people are gonna realize. There 1651 01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:39,060 is no middle ground. castrato streamis, can't straddle. These 1652 01:47:39,060 --> 01:47:43,350 are extremist. Get that through your thick hair, there is not 1653 01:47:43,380 --> 01:47:48,270 there's gonna be total 100% compliance, or you're gonna be 1654 01:47:48,270 --> 01:47:48,840 canceled. 1655 01:47:49,950 --> 01:47:54,870 Yeah. And not only do they Sunny, she know she's part of 1656 01:47:54,870 --> 01:47:55,560 the boulais 1657 01:47:56,700 --> 01:48:00,300 aka haze. And you know, the things that nature as we heard 1658 01:48:00,300 --> 01:48:05,550 when she was bringing up her sister, Kamala Harris, um, but 1659 01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:10,800 they say, okay, Sonny had a piece now let me get a piece. 1660 01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:16,860 Then, look, you know, I lost a lot of Republican followers and 1661 01:48:16,860 --> 01:48:19,890 people who trusted me in the republican party because of the 1662 01:48:19,890 --> 01:48:23,550 positions I took against Trump. And Sonny is right. You've lost 1663 01:48:23,550 --> 01:48:26,580 a lot of people who trusted you, and who saw you as a voice 1664 01:48:26,580 --> 01:48:29,940 because of the positions you took during Trump. And in 2016. 1665 01:48:30,780 --> 01:48:34,050 You and I were probably the two most vocal critics of Trump 1666 01:48:34,410 --> 01:48:37,950 during the campaign on CNN, to the point where it was reported 1667 01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:41,310 that Jared Kushner went in and met with executives at our 1668 01:48:41,310 --> 01:48:45,210 parent company and asked that you and I be fired. And then, 1669 01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:48,780 you know, all of a sudden you you show up working with 1670 01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:53,010 nepotism, Barbie and nepotism can work and showing up, you 1671 01:48:53,010 --> 01:48:56,190 know, in pictures with Eric Trump and with Candace Owens. 1672 01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,430 And so I think there's people who wonder and I'm one of them. 1673 01:48:59,940 --> 01:49:04,320 How did that evolution happen? How did you go from being this 1674 01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:08,550 very principled critic of the Trump administration? That was 1675 01:49:08,700 --> 01:49:11,790 to all of a sudden being in the White House, celebrating the 1676 01:49:11,790 --> 01:49:15,060 wisdom and being you know, taking posing for pictures with 1677 01:49:15,060 --> 01:49:18,870 Candace Owens? I mean, can you explain the evolution to people 1678 01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:22,290 who are puzzled by it, but you did things like take smiling 1679 01:49:22,290 --> 01:49:25,890 pictures with Candace Owens, who I think is very hurtful. Okay. 1680 01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:27,180 Do you not regret that? 1681 01:49:28,740 --> 01:49:32,040 legitimacy? You don't regret taking pictures of admiring 1682 01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:33,150 Pinterest with Candace Owens? 1683 01:49:35,730 --> 01:49:40,230 Yeah, I have heard this. There is you know, you say to a 1684 01:49:41,460 --> 01:49:46,380 to a white girl, Candace Owens. It's like, I mean, crazy 1685 01:49:46,380 --> 01:49:50,040 millennial, obviously. Right, right. There's like, what is 1686 01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:53,400 that? What? What is the meme about her that everyone has to 1687 01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,220 hate or what what is what is she was surprised. I mean, of 1688 01:49:56,220 --> 01:49:56,730 course, we know. 1689 01:49:58,350 --> 01:50:00,000 Well, what are they 1690 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,870 Excuse Van Jones. We know he's a turncoat. He's a traitor, 1691 01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:08,040 because he took pictures with with a cannon Barbie. What did 1692 01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:10,770 Candace Owens do? Because she you want to be completely honest 1693 01:50:10,770 --> 01:50:11,310 with you? Yeah. 1694 01:50:13,710 --> 01:50:17,670 Okay, because this is, this is not what I think. But this is 1695 01:50:17,670 --> 01:50:21,120 the the you ask the question, though, how she's portrayed? 1696 01:50:21,180 --> 01:50:24,000 Yeah, she portrayed as the white man's bad winch. 1697 01:50:25,230 --> 01:50:29,280 Right. Okay. And that, but that's to do whatever the white 1698 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:33,690 conservative white men tell her to do. She'll do it. Why didn't 1699 01:50:33,690 --> 01:50:36,540 she kind of come out? ism goes out the water 1700 01:50:37,710 --> 01:50:42,240 goes out the window. goes out the window. Yes, she she kind of 1701 01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:48,630 got thrust onto the scene for a racism incident at a school, 1702 01:50:49,260 --> 01:50:52,440 which she really didn't even want any she didn't publicize 1703 01:50:52,440 --> 01:50:56,490 it. That happened outside of her. And then she kind of went 1704 01:50:56,490 --> 01:51:00,420 okay. And then she saw what kind of misunderstanding there was 1705 01:51:00,420 --> 01:51:03,810 and she became an activist to help people understand, you 1706 01:51:03,810 --> 01:51:07,500 know, there was no white, white push at all. In fact, quite the 1707 01:51:07,500 --> 01:51:11,250 opposite. I think she she came from very pure, pure motives. Is 1708 01:51:11,250 --> 01:51:14,250 that your understanding of the truth as well? Well, I saw the 1709 01:51:14,250 --> 01:51:17,700 meteoric rise of Candace Owens, because I remember when she was 1710 01:51:17,700 --> 01:51:20,760 just popped up my YouTube feed, but what she does is that black 1711 01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,100 woman's that's what Trump or black woman supports 1712 01:51:23,100 --> 01:51:26,100 conservative kind of, right. She was very, it was very, like I 1713 01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:29,730 said, very organic. It wasn't like she came out with a 1714 01:51:29,730 --> 01:51:33,630 polished. It was just kind of like YouTube videos from home. 1715 01:51:33,780 --> 01:51:36,030 Right? And she would kind of like it was kind of like that 1716 01:51:36,030 --> 01:51:39,090 walk away kind of vibe while I'm walking away from the Democratic 1717 01:51:39,090 --> 01:51:42,510 Party. And people thought I mean, that people saw her as a 1718 01:51:42,510 --> 01:51:46,530 as a as a asset and like, okay, yeah, I mean, like, she's 1719 01:51:46,530 --> 01:51:51,270 attractive. well spoken. I mean, she's a she's a beast on the, 1720 01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:54,300 you know, the debate, bet debate, excuse me, you better 1721 01:51:54,300 --> 01:51:57,690 come correct. Because like, I mean, she's very come to land on 1722 01:51:57,690 --> 01:52:00,240 facts, she will make you look stupid if you don't come 1723 01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,900 prepared. But the problem is, and I've said this before about 1724 01:52:03,900 --> 01:52:08,250 candidates, and this is my timing with her. Like, you don't 1725 01:52:08,250 --> 01:52:11,160 have to talk about George Floyd and whatever he was doing the 1726 01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:14,460 day after it happened. Now you can have the, you know, the 1727 01:52:14,460 --> 01:52:17,640 whatever discussions and discussions probably need to be 1728 01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:21,570 had, but it's about timing, right. But I would say this is 1729 01:52:21,570 --> 01:52:24,810 just a young person who's an activist and who has to learn 1730 01:52:24,810 --> 01:52:27,300 about those kinds of things. You learn about timing from getting 1731 01:52:27,300 --> 01:52:32,280 it wrong. Yeah, but what I'm saying is that the position she, 1732 01:52:32,580 --> 01:52:35,790 she's in she has very little room for margin for error. 1733 01:52:36,660 --> 01:52:37,500 Because 1734 01:52:38,790 --> 01:52:41,760 myself, I mean, even myself, because I don't give a rat's ass 1735 01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,970 what people think about me. I mean, so, but her being on the 1736 01:52:44,970 --> 01:52:48,510 public stage like that, I know, it hurts her, it hurts her 1737 01:52:48,510 --> 01:52:52,770 feelings. I know it has to but what she does is she takes that 1738 01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:58,620 energy and life force multiplies it back at them. Um, which I 1739 01:52:58,620 --> 01:53:00,720 think may be very healthy in the long term. 1740 01:53:02,550 --> 01:53:05,790 You can't I mean, you just can't keep ratcheting it up. But um, 1741 01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:10,230 yeah, I think um, but they they they did this thing with Candace 1742 01:53:10,230 --> 01:53:10,830 Owens. 1743 01:53:12,030 --> 01:53:14,730 But it's not about Candice Owens. No, you want to hear my 1744 01:53:14,730 --> 01:53:17,490 theory? Sure. I might need a little theorem for this because 1745 01:53:17,490 --> 01:53:19,980 this is this is a this is a theory. This is this. 1746 01:53:29,940 --> 01:53:30,990 Under Attack, 1747 01:53:33,330 --> 01:53:34,170 partnership. 1748 01:53:37,980 --> 01:53:43,860 He's dating or possibly dating. Oh, yeah. I do know this. Wasn't 1749 01:53:43,860 --> 01:53:44,610 he dating? 1750 01:53:46,170 --> 01:53:52,830 Some famous actress. Kim Kardashian. Okay. Some famous 1751 01:53:53,430 --> 01:53:58,950 not actress. Really now. Ah. Hearn, here's the story. here's 1752 01:53:58,950 --> 01:54:00,180 the here's the scoop. 1753 01:54:02,970 --> 01:54:08,250 Oh, Kanye Kimmel breaking up, as you seen in the news. Yeah. And 1754 01:54:08,250 --> 01:54:13,800 supposedly, when she was there visiting with, uh, with that 1755 01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:14,490 Jared and 1756 01:54:15,660 --> 01:54:16,470 Ivanka. 1757 01:54:17,610 --> 01:54:22,380 Parent van, we're getting close. Hmm. So I think this is a 1758 01:54:22,380 --> 01:54:26,940 preemptive strike on Kim Kardashian. Because if you put 1759 01:54:26,940 --> 01:54:30,840 Van Jones political mind and political connections behind 1760 01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:31,950 that Kim Kardashian, 1761 01:54:33,390 --> 01:54:37,740 California, very dangerous. Oh, interesting. 1762 01:54:39,690 --> 01:54:42,090 Yeah, okay. And that's 1763 01:54:43,230 --> 01:54:46,320 why they take advantage. I mean, like that happened so many years 1764 01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:50,460 ago. I mean, it was so long ago. They didn't even given this kind 1765 01:54:50,460 --> 01:54:52,890 of energy when the election was going on. Why are they coming 1766 01:54:52,890 --> 01:54:55,890 out now but soon as the stories start coming out about him and 1767 01:54:55,890 --> 01:55:00,000 Kim Kardashian, um, all of a sudden 1768 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,900 A viewer wants to attack him. Okay. 1769 01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:08,490 And if cam can walk that line of, well, we want to help. 1770 01:55:09,660 --> 01:55:13,200 Yeah, Cam is a force to be reckoned with. 1771 01:55:14,370 --> 01:55:17,970 Whoa, what a power couple. I'm looking at it. That is a super 1772 01:55:17,970 --> 01:55:23,490 duper power cup. Whoo. So if that's the case, interest? Yeah. 1773 01:55:23,940 --> 01:55:27,150 I think I thought yeah, Dan's not married. Well, he's 1774 01:55:27,150 --> 01:55:28,710 conveniently getting a divorce. 1775 01:55:29,820 --> 01:55:30,270 Every 1776 01:55:31,470 --> 01:55:32,250 recently. 1777 01:55:34,230 --> 01:55:38,790 Well now, and I can easily see Kim winning governor of 1778 01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:39,480 California. 1779 01:55:40,530 --> 01:55:41,310 Oh, man. 1780 01:55:42,900 --> 01:55:44,730 You know, cuz Guess what? No, 1781 01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:48,810 no, I totally agree. I'm just laughing like, holy crap. But it 1782 01:55:48,870 --> 01:55:53,340 was fantastic. If you go back and look at all the videos, 1783 01:55:53,340 --> 01:55:56,190 guess who was giving her credibility to her law degree, 1784 01:55:56,220 --> 01:56:02,010 Van Jones. He had nothing but kind words to say. And Van Jones 1785 01:56:02,010 --> 01:56:04,320 is backed by Jay Z. Yeah. 1786 01:56:05,790 --> 01:56:10,950 So I'm just gonna say that. Well, you know what? That would 1787 01:56:10,950 --> 01:56:14,790 be. At least we'd have something new on the political stage. I 1788 01:56:14,790 --> 01:56:17,640 know. That'd be great. I don't really care. If you're 1789 01:56:17,670 --> 01:56:21,240 Republican, Democrat. Let's just get some young people in there. 1790 01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:25,500 Hey, Hello, 40s. Hello, 30s crit. Let's go crazy. Let's get 1791 01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:28,500 some younger thinking in there. And I think that's one good 1792 01:56:28,500 --> 01:56:32,880 thing about what Donald Trump did that nothing you can do in 1793 01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:34,200 your past is probably 1794 01:56:35,310 --> 01:56:35,850 right, that means 1795 01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,450 you can do it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So now you're gonna open 1796 01:56:39,450 --> 01:56:42,630 it up to a lot of different schools of thought to be in 1797 01:56:42,630 --> 01:56:46,380 politics, because politics used to be a purity game. Yes. Now 1798 01:56:46,380 --> 01:56:50,880 with you know, if you can command the headlines, and you 1799 01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:56,070 know, and get the people out in mobile and mobile, right, so, so 1800 01:56:56,070 --> 01:57:00,420 that wasn't, you know, that was my first take on one. Linear 1801 01:57:00,420 --> 01:57:07,290 thinking and individualism. Um, I think that um, yeah, I mean 1802 01:57:07,290 --> 01:57:10,080 that I think it's a clear it's clear attack. You saw they did 1803 01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:11,700 the van. You saw I did the horse. 1804 01:57:13,530 --> 01:57:17,730 Yes. There's no room for there's no room you saw they did to the 1805 01:57:17,730 --> 01:57:20,940 teacher? And, excuse me, the superintendent. Yeah. And in the 1806 01:57:20,940 --> 01:57:22,590 Bronx, we're not doing the Wakanda. 1807 01:57:26,130 --> 01:57:26,430 Man. 1808 01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:32,520 This is sounding a lot like, you know, other revolutions that 1809 01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:37,320 we've seen in the past, where there's purity test. Yeah. Um, 1810 01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:40,410 but that's what we do here on the most backs with the Adam 1811 01:57:40,410 --> 01:57:43,650 Curry show. And, hey, yeah, you want to tell people what we're 1812 01:57:43,650 --> 01:57:46,860 about? Well, here's a little expander explainer for the white 1813 01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:50,130 man and the black man has to be able to sit down at the same 1814 01:57:50,130 --> 01:57:53,340 table, the white man has to feel free to speak his mind without 1815 01:57:53,340 --> 01:57:56,220 hurting the feelings about Negro. And the so called Negro 1816 01:57:56,220 --> 01:57:58,920 has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the 1817 01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,710 feelings of the white man, then they can bring the issues that 1818 01:58:01,710 --> 01:58:04,560 are under the rug on top of the table and take an intelligent 1819 01:58:04,620 --> 01:58:07,650 approach to get the problem solved, but the only way to do 1820 01:58:07,650 --> 01:58:14,130 it. And this is a very popular idea. It appears as now we see 1821 01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:19,680 President Barack Obama doing a podcast with Bruce Springsteen, 1822 01:58:19,860 --> 01:58:22,590 trying to catch a little bit of that mo facts with Adam Curry 1823 01:58:22,590 --> 01:58:23,310 vibe. 1824 01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:27,960 It's called renegades born in the USA, which is obviously 1825 01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:32,580 trolling. We know what he's doing, right? Never duplicated. 1826 01:58:32,610 --> 01:58:35,100 That's right. We know what you're doing, you know, but 1827 01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:38,700 we're not sponsored by dawn or bounty or whatever. No, we're 1828 01:58:38,700 --> 01:58:42,840 value for value so we can really tell it like it is. And that's 1829 01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:46,170 where we produce it with the people who listen to the show. 1830 01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:50,460 It's your ideas, your feedback, your thoughts, your thinking, 1831 01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:54,540 your experiences that contribute. 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We've got 1842 01:59:28,140 --> 01:59:30,300 a number of people to thank our executive producers and 1843 01:59:30,300 --> 01:59:33,480 associate executive producers. It's for episode number 59. And 1844 01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:37,680 we start off with actually I think, I think I should have a 1845 01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:43,290 jingle for him. Because whenever we get the Grand Duke showing up 1846 01:59:43,290 --> 01:59:47,760 ladies and gentlemen, I present the Grand Duke of the Pacific 1847 01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:53,190 Northwest. So Dwayne Mellon song, there is Dwayne Melanson 1848 01:59:53,190 --> 01:59:59,820 sending his $321.23 three to 123. And he says keep doing the 1849 01:59:59,820 --> 02:00:00,000 great 1850 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,170 work helping us pay attention Moe karma to you and all of us 1851 02:00:04,170 --> 02:00:07,950 listeners. And what it means is a big baller. We got to do a big 1852 02:00:07,950 --> 02:00:12,240 baller jingle here. I think I think from now on whoever comes 1853 02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:13,290 in at the top 1854 02:00:14,340 --> 02:00:17,640 is the big baller for the show. I like it. So we call him the 1855 02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:20,370 big baller, we needed a sound effect for the big ball we 1856 02:00:20,370 --> 02:00:21,270 needed. We do. 1857 02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:27,720 Yeah. For last week, it was inspired by the donation that we 1858 02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:31,680 had last week at the top. So Oh, I remember what it is. Yes, of 1859 02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:32,160 course. 1860 02:00:33,180 --> 02:00:33,870 There we go. 1861 02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:35,640 Play. 1862 02:00:44,550 --> 02:00:47,400 This is new in the format. So I got to make sure I have that set 1863 02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:51,060 up for next week. Okay, good. So just let people know. 1864 02:00:52,260 --> 02:00:55,350 When you interact with the show, you can also 1865 02:00:56,400 --> 02:01:00,030 impact Michelle moving forward. So from that donation that we 1866 02:01:00,030 --> 02:01:03,420 had last week, and inspire me going to get the big baller 1867 02:01:03,420 --> 02:01:07,260 clip. And now whoever comes at the top of the list each week or 1868 02:01:07,290 --> 02:01:11,850 each show, it'll be that you'll be the big baller. I'd like and 1869 02:01:11,850 --> 02:01:13,110 there's only one big baller 1870 02:01:16,110 --> 02:01:21,750 show like that. All right, so sir Dwayne Melanson is the is 1871 02:01:21,780 --> 02:01:25,920 the big baller for Episode Number 59 and also executive 1872 02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:30,450 producer along with David Kang $120. Who says mon Adam, thank 1873 02:01:30,450 --> 02:01:33,300 you for all you do, please D deadbeat me We can do that. 1874 02:01:35,070 --> 02:01:43,740 Congratulation. You're no longer a deadbeat from a Korean brother 1875 02:01:43,740 --> 02:01:47,490 from another mother. Yes, we do suffer from having our own 1876 02:01:47,490 --> 02:01:51,060 boulais Oh, I'll bet they're called medical professionals. 1877 02:01:54,420 --> 02:01:57,450 By the way, have you seen this TV ad? I didn't look at that 1878 02:01:57,450 --> 02:02:02,550 one. I did it or not. I'll discuss it. He's like you too 1879 02:02:02,550 --> 02:02:05,550 deconstructed for my jaw dropped when I saw this ad. Have you 1880 02:02:05,550 --> 02:02:07,950 also considered deconstructing the Black Panther movie, which 1881 02:02:07,950 --> 02:02:10,770 we started to do, but I think that'll be more moving forward. 1882 02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:13,320 I find the messaging in that movie. Quite interesting. Thank 1883 02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:16,140 you again, David came from West field, Indiana. 1884 02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:20,670 Okay, so we did we did discuss the Black Panther a little bit. 1885 02:02:20,940 --> 02:02:23,700 I don't know if he's talking about the Black Panther movie we 1886 02:02:23,700 --> 02:02:28,050 discussed or he's talking about the believers Judas and what's 1887 02:02:28,500 --> 02:02:35,970 the name of it? The new one with a I slipped my mind now. Um, 1888 02:02:37,050 --> 02:02:39,420 anyway, the new black panther movie that just came out? I 1889 02:02:39,420 --> 02:02:40,860 don't know the actual 1890 02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:45,090 Black Panther Party movie. Yes. We talked about what the clip he 1891 02:02:45,090 --> 02:02:48,630 sent was. It's it's finally commercial. And it has a black 1892 02:02:48,630 --> 02:02:49,320 lady and she's a 1893 02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:56,040 lady enjoyed rejoicing because her daughter hands her a 1894 02:02:57,030 --> 02:02:57,870 sonogram. 1895 02:02:59,130 --> 02:03:01,170 You know, basically, I'm having I think you've probably seen 1896 02:03:01,170 --> 02:03:01,650 this commercial. 1897 02:03:02,940 --> 02:03:07,260 Right? But the blurb under the bottom of the video is father 1898 02:03:07,260 --> 02:03:10,890 shares a heartwarming video of a couple announcing their 1899 02:03:10,890 --> 02:03:14,100 pregnancy to their family. The pharmaceutical company claims 1900 02:03:14,100 --> 02:03:18,720 that moments like this, these inspire people to get vaccinated 1901 02:03:19,350 --> 02:03:23,130 against COVID-19 you can go online to learn more about 1902 02:03:23,130 --> 02:03:23,970 vaccinations. 1903 02:03:25,650 --> 02:03:29,460 If you want to see your mom again, in person, take it back. 1904 02:03:29,460 --> 02:03:33,960 You better get a shot. Yeah, that's a jab, jab, jab, baby. 1905 02:03:35,250 --> 02:03:39,270 Thank you, David. Thank you for Yeah, thanks for this. 1906 02:03:40,350 --> 02:03:42,720 Another interesting piece. Another thing you never would 1907 02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:47,790 have thought of without these notes, Donald DeHart. $116 just 1908 02:03:47,790 --> 02:03:52,680 finished all the back episodes. Wow, so that's 58 back episodes. 1909 02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:57,360 Here's a donation to commemorate 116 he has been doing the work 1910 02:03:59,790 --> 02:04:04,740 good job. All episodes man. He got it. That's good. I like it. 1911 02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:10,560 Anthony passando beside no beside no $100 short notes even 1912 02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:13,110 Adam can get back to talk and cool stuff. Well, thank you very 1913 02:04:13,110 --> 02:04:16,830 much. That's always appreciated. David roll $100 as well. No, no 1914 02:04:16,830 --> 02:04:20,760 that we could find from him. Justin Knowlton. $100 very 1915 02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:25,230 appreciated. First time Rona mo donor. Once you started talking 1916 02:04:25,230 --> 02:04:28,740 about the wire my favorite show. I knew it was time to pony up. 1917 02:04:28,860 --> 02:04:32,910 Now when I think of Prop Joe also think of Obama in the quote 1918 02:04:32,910 --> 02:04:37,560 from DeAngelo Barksdale. The King say the king, the king stay 1919 02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:41,100 the king. Yes. Here's a cool Benjamin request the WUSA and 1920 02:04:41,100 --> 02:04:43,500 can't wait for the next show. Well, thank you very much. 1921 02:04:49,980 --> 02:04:57,540 And we have our first associate Executive Producer $73.90 overly 1922 02:04:57,540 --> 02:04:59,970 wordy Welshman lives up to his name 1923 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,720 Please refer to me as such. This makes my third donation. Thank 1924 02:05:03,720 --> 02:05:06,540 you for your continued excellent work. I will soon be canceling 1925 02:05:06,540 --> 02:05:10,710 my Amazon Prime account. And so I'm splitting equivalent yearly 1926 02:05:10,710 --> 02:05:14,190 subscription costs of that between your fine show and no 1927 02:05:14,190 --> 02:05:18,840 agenda. Thank you. Appreciate it. That's some that says a lot, 1928 02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:21,270 man. There's a billion dollar companies and you're taking 1929 02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:24,570 value from them and putting it into this these independent 1930 02:05:24,570 --> 02:05:29,280 thing. That's very nice. These two shows have provided much 1931 02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:32,970 more entertainment this year than Amazon Prime's efforts. The 1932 02:05:32,970 --> 02:05:36,150 rabbit holes those throwaway references caused me to go down 1933 02:05:36,150 --> 02:05:39,540 are always interesting. First, the Fabian Society, then the 1934 02:05:39,540 --> 02:05:42,780 color gi plan, an image popped in my head while listening to 1935 02:05:42,780 --> 02:05:45,360 the most recent show. When Moe and Adam finally meet up in 1936 02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:49,440 person. It will be like the end of diehard with Alan john having 1937 02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:52,680 a big hug after going through quite the ordeal. One for the 1938 02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:56,370 animated mo facts perhaps some karma is always appreciated. 1939 02:05:56,370 --> 02:05:58,980 Thank you for all your work. Well, thank you. That's a great 1940 02:05:58,980 --> 02:06:01,920 note. overly wordy Welshman. You've got 1941 02:06:04,950 --> 02:06:05,490 to see that. 1942 02:06:07,230 --> 02:06:11,460 I can see that. Yeah, I can see that. That'd be nice. You're 1943 02:06:11,460 --> 02:06:15,600 right. No one day mo one day when we can travel again. When 1944 02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:19,260 the road is gone. Once you get the jab, he I don't think so. 1945 02:06:20,850 --> 02:06:24,120 Daniel Hollingsworth can call himself an associate executive 1946 02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:29,730 producer Episode 59 with $66.33 Cheers. One dose of bad boys. 1947 02:06:29,730 --> 02:06:33,630 Whoo. So please, do we have the bad boys whoosah it's just the 1948 02:06:33,630 --> 02:06:35,970 booster. It's just that I was just the ray comes from back 1949 02:06:35,970 --> 02:06:37,650 home from the bad boy. Oh, I see. 1950 02:06:41,850 --> 02:06:42,750 I was confused. 1951 02:06:44,790 --> 02:06:46,140 This is something I had in there. 1952 02:06:47,220 --> 02:06:50,250 Chris Bailey $59 Thank you gentlemen for doing the work. 1953 02:06:50,250 --> 02:06:53,340 Can I get a goat mousse and a biscuit for my birthday always 1954 02:06:53,340 --> 02:06:55,500 loving it. Give me a Cisco 1955 02:06:57,810 --> 02:07:00,000 WUSA throw it all in there. 1956 02:07:02,730 --> 02:07:07,590 Free mo karma. Steven Snedeker $59 DDB thanks 1957 02:07:08,850 --> 02:07:11,370 I should know this dead end baby. 1958 02:07:13,140 --> 02:07:18,630 Congratulations. You're no longer a dead bee. We got some 1959 02:07:18,630 --> 02:07:21,570 good associate executive producers for this episode. Stay 1960 02:07:21,570 --> 02:07:23,940 warm says Theodora Dorinda again, 1961 02:07:25,020 --> 02:07:28,020 again Yeah, again. Yeah. Whoa, man. What do you pronounce that 1962 02:07:28,020 --> 02:07:30,690 mo pragnya. On on. 1963 02:07:32,970 --> 02:07:38,070 We did a Pronunciation Guide please. Joe Woods 5859 that will 1964 02:07:38,250 --> 02:07:42,840 that by the way these 59 go towards episode club and I think 1965 02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:47,340 we'll get you in there as well. Love most knowledge and atoms 1966 02:07:47,340 --> 02:07:52,110 humility. Thank you very much very kind of you Joe. Greg fear 1967 02:07:52,110 --> 02:07:56,220 ak $50, an associate executive producer ship by first donation 1968 02:07:56,220 --> 02:07:59,820 many more to come you both rock which means I give you a dead 1969 02:07:59,820 --> 02:08:04,320 beating right there. Congratulations. You're no 1970 02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:10,830 longer a deadbeat. And we've got Brian Bowser showing up. We've 1971 02:08:10,830 --> 02:08:15,660 seen him before. I believe mon Adam. Let's see. I really wanted 1972 02:08:15,660 --> 02:08:19,020 to get engaged with love a chat. If you think that's possible. 1973 02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:23,730 Listen to no agenda along with some other GAVI friends, I guess 1974 02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:29,040 GAVI, government friends, I'm thinking so i think so to keep 1975 02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:33,150 expanding minds note, please hold me to this donation to 1976 02:08:33,150 --> 02:08:35,310 follow but I had to write this now because I keep getting 1977 02:08:35,310 --> 02:08:38,280 caught up in other things, and another episode is arrived. I 1978 02:08:38,280 --> 02:08:40,680 know the capital Riot was discussed in the last show or 1979 02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:43,560 so. And I immediately knew there was an oddity that was either 1980 02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:48,150 mine alone or truly widespread. I would love for you to see if 1981 02:08:48,150 --> 02:08:51,090 this is true. beyond my observations, quote, white 1982 02:08:51,090 --> 02:08:54,450 people don't care about random or even marginally impactful 1983 02:08:54,450 --> 02:08:58,560 white people getting killed. And quote, I know this sounds harsh, 1984 02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:02,250 but we have no community. I get it. I may be an oddball, but I 1985 02:09:02,250 --> 02:09:05,220 think the evidence supports this. The show was great and a 1986 02:09:05,220 --> 02:09:08,640 true labor of worth. I would love to discuss many other 1987 02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:12,300 things and possibly even work life horror or interest stories. 1988 02:09:12,540 --> 02:09:15,630 I will gladly share more info my past and present careers and 1989 02:09:15,630 --> 02:09:18,480 hope to chat and build many things. Well, Brian, thank you 1990 02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:23,040 very much. I don't know about this, about this quote. But 1991 02:09:23,190 --> 02:09:27,480 he's, I think he's talking about the I always forget her name. 1992 02:09:27,930 --> 02:09:28,770 The lady got 1993 02:09:30,180 --> 02:09:34,080 killed at the Capitol, and how no one cared, really. And 1994 02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:36,990 really, it was like, all she got was coming to her. So I think 1995 02:09:36,990 --> 02:09:37,710 that's what he means. 1996 02:09:39,390 --> 02:09:43,230 Excuse me badly. I always forget her name. Sorry about that. Um, 1997 02:09:43,230 --> 02:09:48,090 but yeah, I think that's what he means by marginally impactful 1998 02:09:48,090 --> 02:09:53,160 white people get getting killed. So it was safer answers if you 1999 02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:57,390 juxtapose her to like a George Floyd, even though you know, I 2000 02:09:57,390 --> 02:09:59,970 mean, how all the outrage happened on your own 2001 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,180 I'm also speaking I'm just hypothetically speaking Are you 2002 02:10:03,180 --> 02:10:07,770 know, yeah, the media algos, which is not just social media, 2003 02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:11,910 but all media algos are not geared for that. They don't 2004 02:10:11,910 --> 02:10:12,840 respond to it. 2005 02:10:13,889 --> 02:10:15,689 But they also don't respond to 2006 02:10:17,550 --> 02:10:21,420 20 people getting shot in Chicago on a weekend. Nope. The 2007 02:10:21,420 --> 02:10:25,050 algo responds to things that can trigger another algo and then 2008 02:10:25,050 --> 02:10:28,590 trigger people's action to stuff that's that's what it is. 2009 02:10:30,270 --> 02:10:33,150 Why don't white crime rate trending? That's what it is. No, 2010 02:10:33,150 --> 02:10:34,470 it's not what it's not 2011 02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:42,000 yet well, a one party be super attractive. That's, that's 2012 02:10:43,590 --> 02:10:48,870 your face or face your face. Oh, man. All right, thanks, Brian. 2013 02:10:49,500 --> 02:10:53,970 Steve Marquis $50. No, no, we thank you Steve. Ichi Kitagawa, 2014 02:10:54,630 --> 02:10:58,050 sir h of SF thank you for the great work no jingles no karmi 2015 02:10:58,050 --> 02:11:02,280 says and Hans is $50 we appreciate that value. And here 2016 02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:05,910 is Greg back again. So I think Greg it will be 2017 02:11:07,020 --> 02:11:11,370 an executive producer since his total is $100. For the for the 2018 02:11:12,420 --> 02:11:15,630 end he says this is my second donation many more to come. I 2019 02:11:15,630 --> 02:11:17,100 follow the Ron mo path. 2020 02:11:18,210 --> 02:11:20,910 Mo I love the weave of information you make you really 2021 02:11:20,910 --> 02:11:23,730 have a knack for getting your point across in a thorough and 2022 02:11:23,730 --> 02:11:26,940 very convincing way. Adam, you are the voice of my childhood 2023 02:11:26,940 --> 02:11:29,910 this I'm an MTV kid and now you're the voice of my adulthood 2024 02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:35,880 post Rona post Rona. Yeah. Mo facts have no agenda. Right, 2025 02:11:36,090 --> 02:11:40,470 right. prime prime Coronavirus prime real prime rotor time mo 2026 02:11:40,470 --> 02:11:43,440 facts nogen have been a big help wading through all the M five m 2027 02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:47,640 bullcrap thanks for the heavy meta to you fellows PS any more 2028 02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:50,820 facts meetups not yet. We're getting there. Although the 2029 02:11:50,850 --> 02:11:54,210 always seems to be one in the DC area that none of us have gone 2030 02:11:54,210 --> 02:11:54,930 to yet. 2031 02:11:56,010 --> 02:12:00,510 We're planning on it. Dodge Gaskill Dodger here another no 2032 02:12:00,510 --> 02:12:04,020 agenda producer mildly migrating to your podcast. You and Adam do 2033 02:12:04,020 --> 02:12:06,810 a great job from believer in the value for value system and he 2034 02:12:06,810 --> 02:12:10,680 proves it. Thank you very much dodge Elvis Rosenberg. There he 2035 02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:13,320 is Chef Elvis. $50. Want to cancel cannon. 2036 02:12:16,830 --> 02:12:22,770 There it is. JOHN Nathan $50. Thanks, man. Oh yes, he's sole 2037 02:12:22,770 --> 02:12:27,840 proprietor, you the king. And that wraps up our executive and 2038 02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:30,870 associate executive producers and the big baller for Episode 2039 02:12:30,870 --> 02:12:33,990 59 of Moe facts with Adam Curry, we thank all of you for the 2040 02:12:33,990 --> 02:12:37,830 support, we'll thank the rest of the donors. Just before we end 2041 02:12:37,830 --> 02:12:41,100 the show, if you'd like to participate in the value for 2042 02:12:41,100 --> 02:12:44,940 value that we that we operate on here, all I have to do is go to 2043 02:12:44,970 --> 02:12:49,860 mo fax comm you can go directly to our donation page. It's mo 2044 02:12:49,860 --> 02:12:56,400 fax. Sorry, it's mo fund me.com MOFND me.com. And thank 2045 02:12:56,400 --> 02:13:01,530 you to our execs and associate execs for producing Episode 59. 2046 02:13:04,290 --> 02:13:05,970 But speaking of Kanye 2047 02:13:07,890 --> 02:13:10,560 as it so happens, yeah, um, 2048 02:13:11,910 --> 02:13:14,910 he's from the future. He called this. 2049 02:13:16,170 --> 02:13:19,560 And we can just get right into 22. And it's a throwback clip 2050 02:13:19,560 --> 02:13:23,670 from show 13. If you talk about politics, then you are not a 2051 02:13:23,670 --> 02:13:26,670 service to Christ, but to mute. 2052 02:13:28,140 --> 02:13:33,900 And African Americans voice at this level is a form of slavery. 2053 02:13:34,500 --> 02:13:40,710 And being a slave to the system, and to people's perceptions. And 2054 02:13:40,710 --> 02:13:44,280 the reality of what people have chosen for our culture, since we 2055 02:13:44,280 --> 02:13:49,230 are orphans is not in service to God. And in the Bible, there's 2056 02:13:49,230 --> 02:13:54,510 many topics of slavery, and we are African Americans. And we 2057 02:13:54,510 --> 02:13:58,890 are still dealing with modern day slavery. We still have 2058 02:13:58,890 --> 02:14:05,370 record contracts, publishing deals, touring deals, management 2059 02:14:05,370 --> 02:14:08,640 deals, radio deals, 2060 02:14:10,560 --> 02:14:12,510 that we not the owners. 2061 02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:19,770 Until we really own our own community really make Wakanda 2062 02:14:20,970 --> 02:14:24,750 for real, it's gonna take more than the Jesus shape. We got to 2063 02:14:24,750 --> 02:14:27,060 make what kind of product with us too, though, you know what 2064 02:14:27,060 --> 02:14:28,800 I'm saying, Man I've been waiting for. 2065 02:14:30,780 --> 02:14:33,870 You see how pervasive this will compensate this is Yeah. 2066 02:14:35,580 --> 02:14:38,940 But he as he says that if you don't control and this is what 2067 02:14:38,940 --> 02:14:43,530 the hurt arm. Think is Hershkowitz thing. Yes, her 2068 02:14:43,530 --> 02:14:47,910 skin, her skin hurt. herskovits excuse me, um, if you don't 2069 02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:51,180 define or if you're not defining the culture or the people who 2070 02:14:51,750 --> 02:14:54,930 work for you. Yep. Yeah. And that's what he's experiencing 2071 02:14:54,960 --> 02:14:55,560 and 2072 02:14:57,450 --> 02:14:59,970 he was kind of speaking to vanch I was in a roundabout 2073 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,330 Wait, you're gonna be you're gonna be you're gonna be 2074 02:15:03,330 --> 02:15:09,780 cancelled if you don't submit and in the next clip, he makes a 2075 02:15:11,580 --> 02:15:13,980 prophetic statement. I want to say one thing about calling in 2076 02:15:13,980 --> 02:15:16,680 for move on. I want to be praying for that brother because 2077 02:15:16,710 --> 02:15:21,060 I know this whole Kim Kardashian paid and they're gonna try to 2078 02:15:21,060 --> 02:15:24,150 crack him with this. They are sitting around licking their 2079 02:15:24,150 --> 02:15:28,860 chops right now when I mean they the entertainment media. Yeah, 2080 02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:33,720 they're already they're gonna drag him. No, this This is 2081 02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:40,860 nothing. I'm talking about two levels. Path Bill Cosby. I mean, 2082 02:15:40,860 --> 02:15:45,540 you they're gonna mean because they had to take him down. They 2083 02:15:45,540 --> 02:15:49,080 have they have to take either free man thinking free man 2084 02:15:49,080 --> 02:15:54,540 talking. And that is totally off code. Yeah, so the prayers for 2085 02:15:54,540 --> 02:15:58,860 Begley because that's going to be very, very hard for him. Yes, 2086 02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:01,620 so I just want to say that but luckily he 2087 02:16:02,670 --> 02:16:05,820 he's he's seems to be strong in his faith now. So hopefully that 2088 02:16:06,030 --> 02:16:09,060 person that that helps him get through this time. But in this 2089 02:16:09,060 --> 02:16:13,440 next clip, he speaks about one of the things on the list, and 2090 02:16:13,440 --> 02:16:17,550 that's the cancelling of Christianity and Christ. Are you 2091 02:16:17,550 --> 02:16:22,110 afraid of losing your audience? Yay. I told you I'm only afraid 2092 02:16:22,110 --> 02:16:26,430 of God. I'm only afraid of my daddy God. And I'm been 15 years 2093 02:16:26,430 --> 02:16:31,230 I'm telling you, God is showing that you can have your own 2094 02:16:31,260 --> 02:16:34,830 thoughts bro. I've been cast before that was canceled 2095 02:16:34,830 --> 02:16:40,290 culture. Who told you that my career would be over the same 2096 02:16:40,290 --> 02:16:43,320 people that are telling you that you can't have a right to say 2097 02:16:43,320 --> 02:16:46,500 who you will vote for those people will be soon to take 2098 02:16:46,500 --> 02:16:49,680 Jesus out to school. Those people will be soon to remove 2099 02:16:49,680 --> 02:16:54,810 Jesus period from America, which is the Bible Belt. Those people 2100 02:16:54,810 --> 02:16:59,130 will be so mad Come on, man. I'm finna go Alex Jones. man Come on 2101 02:16:59,130 --> 02:16:59,430 man. 2102 02:17:00,510 --> 02:17:06,900 Like wake up wake up Mr. West wake up culture. Wake up. I 2103 02:17:06,900 --> 02:17:09,510 think they so woke but they following the rules of what woke 2104 02:17:09,510 --> 02:17:13,830 supposed to be hip hop a never been about following rules. It's 2105 02:17:13,830 --> 02:17:16,050 been about doing what you feel. I'm gonna take the Louis I'm 2106 02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:19,740 gonna do with the Polo I'ma do it like this. Even like the way 2107 02:17:19,740 --> 02:17:22,800 I put on, let me use my African American voice. Let me use my 2108 02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:26,280 Disney approved voice. Let me hear I'm saying we're not even 2109 02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:30,750 speaking in our own language, bro. Like, we talk louder than 2110 02:17:30,750 --> 02:17:35,220 this African stuck on Italian moms talk loud. We talk louder, 2111 02:17:35,310 --> 02:17:38,250 but we speak in our corporate voice or we don't want to ruin 2112 02:17:38,250 --> 02:17:40,290 the deal voice or this one. 2113 02:17:42,510 --> 02:17:47,400 I love y'all, man. And I love me. And I love Christ. 2114 02:17:48,810 --> 02:17:51,360 And you also love to see this. I'm not gonna tell y'all what 2115 02:17:51,360 --> 02:17:54,300 y'all should do. I'm just doing what I do. If you love it, then 2116 02:17:54,300 --> 02:17:58,920 cool. If y'all want to meet in a go make a difference. Honestly, 2117 02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:05,070 I haven't been killed so many times on social media. And I'm 2118 02:18:05,070 --> 02:18:07,050 still here, I'll still look at me. 2119 02:18:09,840 --> 02:18:13,800 I love that clubs. One of my favorites. I say y'all are being 2120 02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:14,280 woke. 2121 02:18:15,420 --> 02:18:20,250 But by the rules are being woke. And that's what this document 2122 02:18:20,250 --> 02:18:24,390 that came out from the Museum of American History. That is the 2123 02:18:24,390 --> 02:18:29,520 rules for being woke. Gotta get rid of this scientific method, 2124 02:18:29,520 --> 02:18:33,090 rational thinking individualism, hard work, and forth on that 2125 02:18:33,090 --> 02:18:38,130 list is Christianity and Christ. Yeah. So this is not about I 2126 02:18:38,130 --> 02:18:42,780 mean, this is not about religion. This is about taking 2127 02:18:42,780 --> 02:18:47,940 one of the foundations of America and foundations of 2128 02:18:49,290 --> 02:18:54,270 this is about taking away one of the bedrocks of a large portion 2129 02:18:54,270 --> 02:19:01,500 of America, canceling it this very disruptive. And on cue, 2130 02:19:02,190 --> 02:19:07,590 Shaun King comes in. Oh Jesus, no, Jesus Christ. Watch out 2131 02:19:07,620 --> 02:19:10,710 because Shaun King is coming this week. Trans racial civil 2132 02:19:10,710 --> 02:19:13,440 rights activist Shaun King are some of you know Kalka, Max 2133 02:19:13,440 --> 02:19:14,130 tried to cancel the 2134 02:19:15,750 --> 02:19:21,000 evil racist of them all. Jesus. Yeah, shamrock. Obama tried to 2135 02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:23,490 take down the King of kings, the white one specifically 2136 02:19:23,490 --> 02:19:26,070 Unfortunately for him. He's 2000 years later, what's commonly 2137 02:19:26,070 --> 02:19:30,000 referred to as CPT. Al Sharpton tweeted the statues of the white 2138 02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:32,940 European Jesus should come down. They're a form of white 2139 02:19:32,940 --> 02:19:35,610 supremacy and always have been, first of all, for someone who 2140 02:19:35,610 --> 02:19:38,220 crucifies white people for a living. I assume he appreciate 2141 02:19:38,220 --> 02:19:41,550 the imagery. Secondly, he kind of has appoint certain groups of 2142 02:19:41,550 --> 02:19:44,700 youth Christianity to oppress people, slave traders that kkk 2143 02:19:44,700 --> 02:19:49,110 jewelers, but White is always a form of white supremacy Martin 2144 02:19:49,110 --> 02:19:52,890 Luther cream, what the fuck are you talking about? Sean says in 2145 02:19:52,890 --> 02:19:55,920 the Bible when Jesus wants to hide he went to Egypt, not 2146 02:19:55,920 --> 02:19:59,220 Denmark. That is true probably because Denmark didn't exist. 2147 02:19:59,280 --> 02:19:59,790 But I think 2148 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,790 Revelation there good marshmallow was trying to make 2149 02:20:02,790 --> 02:20:07,800 is that Jesus wasn't white. Hey, Shawn, no shit. 2150 02:20:13,559 --> 02:20:13,979 So 2151 02:20:15,210 --> 02:20:16,440 let me just say this 2152 02:20:18,210 --> 02:20:22,800 if whiteness was a commodity or stock I'll be going short on 2153 02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:27,090 white right now. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Put a bit of put put up 2154 02:20:27,090 --> 02:20:30,780 short on wise is very short on white a lot a lot go long gone 2155 02:20:30,780 --> 02:20:33,840 brown Yeah, because I mean that's that's that's the up 2156 02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:38,910 income if you compare like cashed to like a crypto right 2157 02:20:38,940 --> 02:20:42,330 Brown is the crypto right? So it's gaining is gaining is 2158 02:20:42,330 --> 02:20:47,010 gaining a lot of value right now. And I'm not talking about 2159 02:20:47,400 --> 02:20:51,240 per se color. I'm talking about these groups that are being 2160 02:20:51,240 --> 02:20:54,420 defined by the East Coast like color revolution kind of thing, 2161 02:20:54,570 --> 02:21:02,100 not literal color. But the only problem is black value is rarely 2162 02:21:02,100 --> 02:21:07,800 tied to white value, right? Because we helped build this 2163 02:21:07,800 --> 02:21:10,320 country that these people are trying to tear it out. And it's 2164 02:21:10,320 --> 02:21:13,080 like what, wait, hold on. You want to do what to America? 2165 02:21:13,260 --> 02:21:18,300 Yeah. It puts us in a weird spot. Cuz it's like, Yeah, we 2166 02:21:18,300 --> 02:21:20,550 got some beef with a we understand, you know, I mean, 2167 02:21:21,180 --> 02:21:25,740 they still owe us our atonement, but you want to burn it down. 2168 02:21:26,430 --> 02:21:31,620 Yeah. And so now you have a fork and blackness. You have half the 2169 02:21:31,620 --> 02:21:34,410 black to want to go with but I was gonna I was gonna ask you 2170 02:21:34,410 --> 02:21:36,330 what do you think that percentage is? Mo? I mean, 2171 02:21:36,330 --> 02:21:39,720 that's, I mean, how big is taking the voting numbers? Let's 2172 02:21:39,720 --> 02:21:42,120 just take the voting numbers. Thanks, Tony. wailing you found 2173 02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:45,210 the numbers. No, no, no, I'm saying the numbers that they 2174 02:21:45,210 --> 02:21:48,720 said. If they said twice the turnout for Trump, then last 2175 02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:52,230 year, so we can leave kill off bad. Right. Okay. All right. Why 2176 02:21:52,230 --> 02:21:55,740 don't we have a baseline from 2016? Yeah, yeah. So they keep 2177 02:21:55,740 --> 02:21:59,640 saying this twice. Number. So if you say they say at 20. 2178 02:22:01,230 --> 02:22:08,640 But AB is mean to 20? You have some big banking that 20? Yeah, 2179 02:22:08,970 --> 02:22:13,200 you have some big names in that. 20. And then we really don't 2180 02:22:13,200 --> 02:22:17,370 know if it's at 20 or not, because the silent majority is 2181 02:22:17,370 --> 02:22:22,110 on the sidelines be much bigger. Yeah. Right. So all I'm just 2182 02:22:22,110 --> 02:22:26,280 saying is that if you you're asking me to? 2183 02:22:27,690 --> 02:22:30,180 If Okay, do you say they're trying to cut a deal with me? 2184 02:22:30,180 --> 02:22:32,730 And they say, Oh, come on, come on. Come on browser, nothing. 2185 02:22:32,730 --> 02:22:33,300 Come on. I mean, 2186 02:22:34,860 --> 02:22:38,040 why would sell 20th century? Come on, come on into the 21st 2187 02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:43,470 century. And it's like, Yeah, but what about this bill that we 2188 02:22:43,470 --> 02:22:43,860 have? 2189 02:22:46,050 --> 02:22:49,140 met Bill, man, did you read that HR? 40 2190 02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:51,060 bullcrap. 2191 02:22:52,200 --> 02:22:57,660 I mean, it really is. It really is. It's so open to interpret to 2192 02:22:57,660 --> 02:23:00,840 end. And it seems like they want to spend a lot this is what I 2193 02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:03,780 was worried about. I'm glad we're talking about for a second 2194 02:23:04,380 --> 02:23:08,460 is this whole section in there, which we've seen this hr 40 come 2195 02:23:08,460 --> 02:23:12,660 by before, but this is a little new, when it wants to do a study 2196 02:23:12,690 --> 02:23:15,660 of the actual enslavement. 2197 02:23:17,160 --> 02:23:20,730 And I think you'll find that it wasn't a lot of American sailing 2198 02:23:20,730 --> 02:23:21,480 ships 2199 02:23:22,560 --> 02:23:27,450 that were doing the the transport and those boats 2200 02:23:29,850 --> 02:23:30,660 to get me castle. 2201 02:23:32,670 --> 02:23:35,580 Castle, castle castle, but you know what, I'm gonna do it. 2202 02:23:35,580 --> 02:23:36,630 Nothing to show all 2203 02:23:40,530 --> 02:23:45,840 right here, this might get a I mean, like, yeah, I'm just what 2204 02:23:45,840 --> 02:23:48,540 I'm reading. I'm just telling you what I'm reading. I'm 2205 02:23:48,570 --> 02:23:53,340 picking up what you're putting down. Okay, on the boats. Right? 2206 02:23:54,150 --> 02:23:58,020 If the boats even existed, I mean, we don't go there. Let's 2207 02:23:58,020 --> 02:24:01,410 just even do that one. Yeah, I love man. We got to do a whole 2208 02:24:01,410 --> 02:24:07,230 episode on that. If the boats existed love it. Yes. So um, but 2209 02:24:07,230 --> 02:24:10,650 yeah, it's that they're coming to me and say, Oh, come on. 2210 02:24:11,010 --> 02:24:14,940 Invest in brown. Yeah, no, no, no, you know, I say go short on 2211 02:24:14,940 --> 02:24:15,300 white. 2212 02:24:16,560 --> 02:24:20,250 Invest in brown. It's the new thing. But 2213 02:24:21,480 --> 02:24:26,100 I'm old in white coin. Right. So you know, 2214 02:24:27,240 --> 02:24:30,990 you don't want the white coin to go away? No, because Are you 2215 02:24:30,990 --> 02:24:32,310 going to inherit their debt? 2216 02:24:34,020 --> 02:24:36,480 Right. I'm not talking about me specifically, but I'm saying me 2217 02:24:36,480 --> 02:24:40,320 as a black person. Like, this is the thing we put it out on the 2218 02:24:40,320 --> 02:24:43,020 table. This is the thing with Marxism. It's why they keep 2219 02:24:43,020 --> 02:24:46,710 coming with Marxism. Communism. You know? Why? You know, never. 2220 02:24:46,950 --> 02:24:49,680 Capitalism never worked out for you black people, you know, I 2221 02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:53,730 mean, so it's like, okay, but what's my standing in this new 2222 02:24:53,730 --> 02:24:55,290 society? You're trying to form? Yeah. 2223 02:24:56,310 --> 02:24:58,860 We're all be equal. Yeah, all of us have nothing. 2224 02:25:02,250 --> 02:25:05,580 Yeah, we kind of like the idea of the promise better. 2225 02:25:06,750 --> 02:25:09,360 Yeah, the thing is I can 2226 02:25:11,160 --> 02:25:11,610 Yeah. 2227 02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:17,970 I just this is a very hard sale. Yeah. Cuz I it's clear cut my 2228 02:25:17,970 --> 02:25:18,510 case. 2229 02:25:19,590 --> 02:25:22,950 If you want to hear the case go back to 50 my case against you 2230 02:25:22,950 --> 02:25:24,450 know, the institution 2231 02:25:25,650 --> 02:25:27,660 or the country of America is quite clear. 2232 02:25:29,970 --> 02:25:32,790 With this, it's like a just take a leap of faith and we'll get 2233 02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:36,960 you good on the back end. Yeah. For we've heard that one before. 2234 02:25:37,140 --> 02:25:41,220 Yeah. And then the way they rule I can't I can't rock with that. 2235 02:25:41,580 --> 02:25:45,240 But yeah, but crisis aren't crisis on the hit list. Clearly. 2236 02:25:45,270 --> 02:25:49,620 Um, so if, why Jesus is gonna be taken out. 2237 02:25:50,670 --> 02:25:53,430 Is it possible you could talk about a black Jesus, similar 2238 02:25:53,430 --> 02:25:54,180 Jesus? 2239 02:25:56,130 --> 02:25:56,850 And goodbye. 2240 02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:02,640 I had him in the closet. We weren't performing no miracles 2241 02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:03,360 for nobody. 2242 02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:12,900 Jesus came alongside, forget it. The only Jesus I know is him. 2243 02:26:13,080 --> 02:26:15,600 And the one thing you don't need is a partner. 2244 02:26:19,980 --> 02:26:22,800 This picture has been in my family for as long as I can 2245 02:26:22,800 --> 02:26:26,610 remember. When I was a baby, I don't know what I saw first. My 2246 02:26:26,610 --> 02:26:31,590 mama my papa or this Jesus. He is the one I know and love. So 2247 02:26:31,590 --> 02:26:33,000 let's close the subject. 2248 02:26:34,080 --> 02:26:38,340 Jesus was black the Bible with a sense Oh, so what are you 2249 02:26:38,340 --> 02:26:39,180 talking about? 2250 02:26:41,160 --> 02:26:45,510 I read about it. In Revelation chapter one. Verse 14 says 2251 02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:51,090 his hair is like wool. 2252 02:27:14,340 --> 02:27:17,160 We know Jesus wasn't black. He could have been from the lost 2253 02:27:17,160 --> 02:27:19,560 tribe of Israel. They were supposed to be black. 2254 02:27:21,510 --> 02:27:22,200 People would know 2255 02:27:25,800 --> 02:27:32,940 why Wow. Don't 70 don't hear that anymore. Do ya? 1970s Wow, 2256 02:27:33,360 --> 02:27:34,860 I'm just gonna ask this question. 2257 02:27:36,150 --> 02:27:41,130 Chinese got Chinese Jesus. Everybody got their own when he 2258 02:27:41,130 --> 02:27:43,470 ever you make Jesus a black person 2259 02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:48,420 is so upsetting to certain certain certain group of people. 2260 02:27:50,430 --> 02:27:53,460 I don't understand that. And what you do is you opened up a 2261 02:27:53,460 --> 02:27:56,910 door for Sean Kane to make an argument they say get rid of 2262 02:27:56,910 --> 02:28:01,380 Jesus. What No, we Yeah, because like you heard Florida. Let me 2263 02:28:01,380 --> 02:28:03,870 give a little background that was from the good Tom show. I 2264 02:28:03,870 --> 02:28:06,660 didn't set it up too well, but that was from the good Tom show. 2265 02:28:06,660 --> 02:28:12,150 And JJ had painted an image of a black Jesus. And Michael being 2266 02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:16,050 reminded me of me, Miami of a young man who 2267 02:28:17,970 --> 02:28:21,600 went and hung it up to the white Jesus down, right. And his mom 2268 02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:25,110 said, You heard what Florida Evans said. I don't know who I 2269 02:28:25,110 --> 02:28:27,450 saw first white Jesus. Yeah. 2270 02:28:28,800 --> 02:28:33,150 Right. Right. So what I'm saying is this that opens the case UP 2271 02:28:33,150 --> 02:28:37,530 TO SAY THEY uses white really white man religion to slave you. 2272 02:28:37,710 --> 02:28:38,460 You're saying 2273 02:28:39,780 --> 02:28:44,040 yeah, it's time to rebrand it's time 2274 02:28:47,130 --> 02:28:50,880 to repackage but um, but why is it so infuriating? I don't 2275 02:28:50,880 --> 02:28:53,820 understand. Like I say when you go to China, you have Chinese 2276 02:28:53,820 --> 02:28:57,690 Jesus you go to any other culture you have matching of 2277 02:28:57,690 --> 02:29:02,070 that culture. But if for one reason or another like I said 2278 02:29:02,070 --> 02:29:05,310 1970s and late I'm surprised leader let them on television. I 2279 02:29:05,310 --> 02:29:08,880 mean, I gotta give him props for that, you know? Um, that had to 2280 02:29:08,880 --> 02:29:12,930 be very brave. A lot more back then you can't do anything 2281 02:29:12,930 --> 02:29:17,100 anymore. Why is that why are we going backwards? If we're more 2282 02:29:17,100 --> 02:29:20,160 free than we would have been going backwards because the 2283 02:29:20,160 --> 02:29:24,420 advertisers have more power and advertisers want zeros zeros 2284 02:29:24,420 --> 02:29:28,260 zero controversy. No bad feelings. everybody happy? 2285 02:29:30,090 --> 02:29:34,560 Yeah, that means that the basis of it but then he saw I'm just 2286 02:29:34,560 --> 02:29:35,580 saying so. 2287 02:29:37,590 --> 02:29:41,880 It just it just perplexes me anytime. We're in a spiral I 2288 02:29:41,880 --> 02:29:46,170 mean, now that we have social media, and the the tools have 2289 02:29:46,170 --> 02:29:49,350 been developed and sharpened to people know how to do it. You 2290 02:29:49,350 --> 02:29:52,530 just go after the advertiser and say, Hey, advertiser, I can't 2291 02:29:52,530 --> 02:29:55,380 believe you're advertising on this show. Oh, we're gonna 2292 02:29:55,380 --> 02:29:58,680 cancel you Oh, we're gonna make a problem for you. And then that 2293 02:29:58,680 --> 02:30:00,000 immediately is taken 2294 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:05,190 taken care of by canceling the media by whatever has to happen 2295 02:30:05,190 --> 02:30:09,390 making a stand making an apology. It's pressure, it's 2296 02:30:09,390 --> 02:30:13,590 bullying, it's really bullying. And let me say one thing, when I 2297 02:30:13,590 --> 02:30:17,520 say when I say the American Museum when they say talk about 2298 02:30:17,520 --> 02:30:19,920 getting rid of Christianity, they're not talking about 2299 02:30:19,920 --> 02:30:20,670 Catholicism. 2300 02:30:22,650 --> 02:30:24,720 No, they're not. That's not what they're talking about. Cuz the 2301 02:30:24,720 --> 02:30:28,410 pope is bought in. He's read into the plan. Here, they're 2302 02:30:28,410 --> 02:30:34,320 talking about the Bible. And it's a large enough segment, I'm 2303 02:30:34,320 --> 02:30:37,500 not gonna say law, but large enough. Oh, black people 2304 02:30:38,760 --> 02:30:41,460 that feel that we have some time to that book. 2305 02:30:43,710 --> 02:30:47,790 That when you come for that, I think that's gonna be that's 2306 02:30:47,790 --> 02:30:49,320 gonna be overreach. 2307 02:30:50,340 --> 02:30:55,920 Because, as you heard in the 1970s, people saw my black Jesus 2308 02:30:55,920 --> 02:31:01,830 and the last child, Israel. And then we have Malcolm X, speaking 2309 02:31:01,830 --> 02:31:04,350 on a Moses, Jesus in jail. 2310 02:31:10,260 --> 02:31:14,040 Why you haven't got a man of God in the Bible? That wasn't what 2311 02:31:14,040 --> 02:31:16,500 the jail when they started speaking up against 2312 02:31:16,500 --> 02:31:17,520 exploitation. 2313 02:31:19,830 --> 02:31:22,650 They charged Jesus with sedition. 2314 02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:24,960 Didn't they do that? 2315 02:31:26,340 --> 02:31:27,570 They said he was the king. 2316 02:31:29,790 --> 02:31:33,480 They said he was discriminating because he told us to the 2317 02:31:33,840 --> 02:31:38,640 disciples, so not the way of the Gentiles, but rather go to the 2318 02:31:38,640 --> 02:31:43,920 lost sheep. He discriminate, don't go near the Gentiles, go 2319 02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:48,840 to the lush sheep, go to your friends, go to the downtrodden, 2320 02:31:49,290 --> 02:31:52,530 go through the exploited, go to the people who don't know who 2321 02:31:52,530 --> 02:31:56,430 they are, who are lost from the knowledge of themselves, and who 2322 02:31:56,430 --> 02:32:00,510 are strangers in the land that is not there. Go to those people 2323 02:32:00,780 --> 02:32:05,340 go to the free, go to the second class citizens go to the ones 2324 02:32:05,340 --> 02:32:10,020 who are suffering the brunt of Caesars brutality. And if Jesus 2325 02:32:10,020 --> 02:32:13,140 were here in America today, he wouldn't be going to the white 2326 02:32:13,140 --> 02:32:16,950 man. The white man is the oppressor. He would be going to 2327 02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:20,850 the oppressed. He would be going to the humble. He would be going 2328 02:32:20,850 --> 02:32:24,720 to the lowly, he would be going to the rejected in the despise, 2329 02:32:24,900 --> 02:32:27,540 he would be going to the so called American Negro. 2330 02:32:29,970 --> 02:32:36,570 Yo, what year that was a 6663. I believe 64 if I'm not mistaken, 2331 02:32:36,570 --> 02:32:39,240 one of them right in between those two gentlemen, just a 2332 02:32:39,270 --> 02:32:43,800 couple years away from from the good times episode. Yeah, I will 2333 02:32:43,800 --> 02:32:47,340 say this, this momentum was building of 2334 02:32:48,450 --> 02:32:53,850 once again, who are we? Who are we wait a minute, but I actually 2335 02:32:53,850 --> 02:32:56,100 read the Bible, it says something different than when I 2336 02:32:56,190 --> 02:32:59,880 when I see these pictures, which all cultures do that all 2337 02:32:59,880 --> 02:33:04,800 cultures make gods, even in Greece, they redid the Egyptian 2338 02:33:04,800 --> 02:33:06,270 Pantheon, you know? 2339 02:33:07,890 --> 02:33:11,850 It is what it is. And that's why Egypt is their holy grail. And 2340 02:33:11,850 --> 02:33:15,810 we talked about in the last show. Yeah. On that on the left 2341 02:33:15,810 --> 02:33:22,320 hand path. So, um, my favorite racist, Donald Sterling, because 2342 02:33:22,860 --> 02:33:27,930 briefly, I say that is Donald Sterling. And all that he did he 2343 02:33:27,930 --> 02:33:32,100 draw so many truth bombs, and I think that's why they got him 2344 02:33:32,280 --> 02:33:35,250 canceled canceled. I mean, they're like you take your $2 2345 02:33:35,250 --> 02:33:38,520 billion for your team, right? We will pay you twice what the 2346 02:33:38,520 --> 02:33:44,070 value is, and you're out here talking Yeah, because I have a 2347 02:33:44,070 --> 02:33:49,380 video have the audio tape of him talking to V us. Step by step 2348 02:33:49,380 --> 02:33:52,020 established. Lonnie step by oni I think it's how you pronounce 2349 02:33:52,020 --> 02:33:54,690 it. This is this this hit the audio that got him in so much 2350 02:33:54,690 --> 02:33:58,560 trouble. Oh, this is what yeah, this really got him in trouble, 2351 02:33:58,560 --> 02:34:04,440 but you didn't hear about it. Um, this is a Donald Sterling 2352 02:34:04,440 --> 02:34:08,280 talking about the black Jews. It makes you happy. I will remove 2353 02:34:08,280 --> 02:34:09,900 all of the black people for money. 2354 02:34:13,980 --> 02:34:17,460 I understand. I did remove the people that were independently 2355 02:34:17,460 --> 02:34:19,710 on my Instagram that are black. 2356 02:34:22,140 --> 02:34:26,490 Why did you say that? You didn't you just said you didn't remove 2357 02:34:26,490 --> 02:34:26,640 them. 2358 02:34:28,020 --> 02:34:30,360 Matt camp in Magic Johnson. 2359 02:34:32,070 --> 02:34:35,310 His mix? And he was okay. Just like me. 2360 02:34:36,660 --> 02:34:38,640 He's lighter whiter than me. 2361 02:34:41,010 --> 02:34:42,300 I met his mother. 2362 02:34:44,790 --> 02:34:46,200 I'm a racist. I don't think 2363 02:34:48,780 --> 02:34:53,670 I think you you I don't think so. I think you have an amazing 2364 02:34:53,670 --> 02:34:57,990 heart, honey. I think that people around you have a voice 2365 02:34:57,990 --> 02:34:59,970 in mind and have a way 2366 02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:06,300 In the world, you go to Israel. The blacks are just treated like 2367 02:35:06,300 --> 02:35:06,960 dogs. 2368 02:35:08,700 --> 02:35:13,110 The white Jews, there's white Jews and blacks. You understand? 2369 02:35:13,530 --> 02:35:16,080 And are the black Jews less in the white? 2370 02:35:18,630 --> 02:35:19,200 Right? 2371 02:35:20,460 --> 02:35:24,510 Is the question. We don't evaluate what's right and wrong. 2372 02:35:24,720 --> 02:35:26,610 We live in a society. 2373 02:35:27,840 --> 02:35:32,520 We live in a culture. We have to live within that culture. But 2374 02:35:32,520 --> 02:35:36,210 shouldn't we take a stand for what's wrong? And be the change 2375 02:35:36,210 --> 02:35:36,900 in the difference? 2376 02:35:37,980 --> 02:35:39,450 change the culture cuz I can't 2377 02:35:45,900 --> 02:35:47,460 do what I want. I don't want the Girl. 2378 02:35:48,690 --> 02:35:50,280 Girl, they will do what I want. 2379 02:35:54,900 --> 02:35:58,920 You might as well. You didn't hear that on the news. Not that 2380 02:35:58,920 --> 02:36:01,770 last bit. I heard part of the other piece I think we had. 2381 02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:06,060 No, we had no agenda when we had the clip. Okay. 2382 02:36:08,760 --> 02:36:12,150 I'm sorry to hear that on the move. No, you're No, you're 2383 02:36:12,150 --> 02:36:15,660 right. But it's amazing. They counselor for Magic Johnson and 2384 02:36:15,660 --> 02:36:17,340 taking pictures down and 2385 02:36:18,570 --> 02:36:24,540 14. Yeah, yeah. But he brings up the black Jews and say 150% 2386 02:36:24,600 --> 02:36:28,830 Yeah. Not 150% treated like dogs. 2387 02:36:30,690 --> 02:36:36,750 And they suppress it. Why is that offensive? Where the pro 2388 02:36:36,750 --> 02:36:40,320 Palestine people are on this? Where I mean, aren't you notice 2389 02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:44,670 like, we're bringing this up. Nobody takes it home. So I have 2390 02:36:44,700 --> 02:36:50,490 a V. She's on speaking with Barbara Walters. And I want 2391 02:36:50,490 --> 02:36:55,200 bought them out for a little clarity. Bob Walters is 100% 2392 02:36:55,200 --> 02:36:59,010 Jewish. I don't think she's a practicing religious, Jewish, 2393 02:36:59,010 --> 02:37:00,690 but more ethnic Jews. 2394 02:37:02,190 --> 02:37:07,680 Listen to how she sounds when the brings up the black Jews on 2395 02:37:07,680 --> 02:37:12,810 her show. I think the things he says are not what he feels. 2396 02:37:13,200 --> 02:37:16,830 Anyone can say anything in the heat of the moment. Not 2397 02:37:16,860 --> 02:37:21,270 everybody who makes alleged racist remarks and the heat of 2398 02:37:21,270 --> 02:37:24,120 the moment. Sometimes in the heat of the moment you say 2399 02:37:24,120 --> 02:37:28,080 things that you mean that you mean, or that you fail? Yeah. 2400 02:37:28,350 --> 02:37:32,250 Explain how he says these things. I think this determines 2401 02:37:32,250 --> 02:37:36,630 from a different generation than I am. I think he was brought up 2402 02:37:36,630 --> 02:37:38,880 to believe those things wasn't 2403 02:37:40,140 --> 02:37:46,230 segregation, whites and blacks. minorities, from black Jews, to 2404 02:37:46,230 --> 02:37:52,080 light Jews to dark Jews. Black Jews, yes. So it's not just 2405 02:37:52,590 --> 02:37:56,940 blacks. It's anti semitism he expresses but he's Jewish, but 2406 02:37:56,970 --> 02:38:00,540 through his actions. He's shown that he's not a racist. 2407 02:38:02,640 --> 02:38:06,750 You should see her face when she was video. Yeah, she's Black 2408 02:38:06,780 --> 02:38:07,170 Watch. 2409 02:38:10,080 --> 02:38:10,560 What 2410 02:38:11,580 --> 02:38:14,220 she does is when you gotta we probably gotta listen to it 2411 02:38:14,220 --> 02:38:19,110 again. Because she says, Oh, it's an anti semitism thing. 2412 02:38:19,140 --> 02:38:21,330 Yes, exactly. Not a black thing. 2413 02:38:23,340 --> 02:38:27,660 That was really funny. minorities, from black Jews, to 2414 02:38:27,660 --> 02:38:33,540 like Jews, to dark Jews. Black Jews. Yes. So it's not just 2415 02:38:34,050 --> 02:38:36,960 blacks. It's anti semitism he expresses 2416 02:38:41,790 --> 02:38:44,430 that's the classic pivot, right? We talked about it with the ice 2417 02:38:44,430 --> 02:38:48,990 cube. When everything comes out, it's always anti semitism. They 2418 02:38:48,990 --> 02:38:52,920 always make it about that. And I just put a little clarity if you 2419 02:38:52,920 --> 02:38:57,690 didn't notice. Ah, yeah, so it's just like she'd never heard of 2420 02:38:57,690 --> 02:39:00,420 black Jews before a black Jew like what are you talking about? 2421 02:39:01,320 --> 02:39:04,950 Maybe she hadn't I don't know. Did you not hear his tape? Why 2422 02:39:04,950 --> 02:39:05,520 are you shocked? 2423 02:39:06,720 --> 02:39:10,890 Come on, knock it off. Um, I'm Bob barber I'm talking to come 2424 02:39:10,890 --> 02:39:15,000 on. Um, but I know a lot of people got their pens and pads 2425 02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:18,090 out right now. I'm ready. Right mo fax a letter your laptops and 2426 02:39:18,090 --> 02:39:20,520 like, what the hell is mo talking about? Well, 2427 02:39:22,590 --> 02:39:25,560 I'm from the book of the Bible, believe me, we shouldn't make 2428 02:39:25,560 --> 02:39:28,980 graven images or anything. So we really shouldn't be talking 2429 02:39:28,980 --> 02:39:32,490 about, you know, what, what the painting look like or anything 2430 02:39:32,490 --> 02:39:35,940 like that. Right? So let me be clear on that. But one of the 2431 02:39:35,940 --> 02:39:41,190 most famous preachers in all of history, Billy Graham's take on 2432 02:39:41,220 --> 02:39:45,090 black Jesus horns on his brow and his face was bleeding. 2433 02:39:46,650 --> 02:39:51,480 And they laughed at him and they spit on and they mocking and 2434 02:39:51,480 --> 02:39:56,130 with one snap of his fingers. 72,000 angels had already drawn 2435 02:39:56,130 --> 02:39:59,790 their swords ready to come to his rescue and wipe this planet 2436 02:39:59,820 --> 02:39:59,970 out. 2437 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:04,710 of existence in the universe. And Jesus said no, to this end 2438 02:40:04,710 --> 02:40:05,520 was eyeball 2439 02:40:08,670 --> 02:40:13,710 dragged and lifted in Paul that cross. And don't you black 2440 02:40:13,710 --> 02:40:15,600 people ever forget one thing. 2441 02:40:17,010 --> 02:40:21,210 The man that helped Jesus carry that cross was a black man. 2442 02:40:23,970 --> 02:40:29,730 And don't ever forget another thing. Jesus belongs to Africa 2443 02:40:30,690 --> 02:40:36,540 as much as he does to Europe and Asia. He was born in that part 2444 02:40:36,540 --> 02:40:41,070 of the world that touches Africa and Asia and Europe. And Jesus 2445 02:40:41,070 --> 02:40:43,770 was not a white man. Like me. 2446 02:40:45,330 --> 02:40:49,080 He is black as some of you. We don't know what the color of his 2447 02:40:49,080 --> 02:40:51,660 skin but it must have been a dark color, like the people of 2448 02:40:51,660 --> 02:40:54,420 his day, because he was a man like them. 2449 02:40:56,460 --> 02:41:00,000 Don't ever say it's a white man's religion, or a black man's 2450 02:41:00,000 --> 02:41:04,200 religion. It's our world religion. He belongs to the 2451 02:41:04,200 --> 02:41:04,680 world. 2452 02:41:11,100 --> 02:41:16,560 pretty famous. pretty famous sermon. Yeah. I mean, and Billy 2453 02:41:16,560 --> 02:41:19,950 Graham had the ear of all the Presidents always, I mean, to 2454 02:41:19,950 --> 02:41:23,940 say he was like one of the most powerful men in this era. I 2455 02:41:23,940 --> 02:41:27,570 mean, but I'm just saying, that ain't my words. You take it out 2456 02:41:27,570 --> 02:41:32,250 with Billy Graham. Yeah, I mean, you heard what he said. So, um, 2457 02:41:33,330 --> 02:41:38,940 but we've known that they wanted to get rid of Jesus every since 2458 02:41:39,210 --> 02:41:43,350 show two. And this is goes to talk about what Florida 2459 02:41:43,380 --> 02:41:46,950 everyone's saying that she's seeing white Jesus every since 2460 02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:50,790 she's been a child. This is from show two, claiming a seat at the 2461 02:41:50,790 --> 02:41:51,240 table. 2462 02:41:52,590 --> 02:41:57,180 I wanted to start by just giving you a little perspective of my 2463 02:41:57,180 --> 02:42:01,350 household in the 70s. If you were like me, growing up in the 2464 02:42:01,350 --> 02:42:07,650 70s, their portraits of MLK JFK, and Jesus hung on on a lot of 2465 02:42:07,650 --> 02:42:13,290 folks was that was the Trinity. Today, the trinity of Oprah, 2466 02:42:13,290 --> 02:42:16,560 Beyonce, and Michelle Obama could almost replace them. 2467 02:42:17,730 --> 02:42:18,330 Wow. 2468 02:42:20,040 --> 02:42:28,020 Well, Oprah, a Beyonce and who's the third one? Um, Barack Obama 2469 02:42:28,860 --> 02:42:31,620 was a bright No, no. Michelle Obama. Michelle. I'm sorry. 2470 02:42:37,230 --> 02:42:37,860 Sorry. 2471 02:42:42,000 --> 02:42:45,780 Who's coming down off the wall for GGP? Yeah. 2472 02:42:47,190 --> 02:42:48,210 Well, 2473 02:42:49,230 --> 02:42:52,740 let me see Oprah beyond say, 2474 02:42:53,760 --> 02:42:55,050 Michelle. 2475 02:42:57,270 --> 02:43:00,720 I don't know I mean, 2476 02:43:01,980 --> 02:43:02,400 well, 2477 02:43:04,050 --> 02:43:08,370 look into the clip. In a bizarre step to bolster the cult of 2478 02:43:08,370 --> 02:43:12,180 season paint the Christian minority in the Jiangxi province 2479 02:43:12,180 --> 02:43:15,780 of Southeast China, have been now advised to replace the image 2480 02:43:15,780 --> 02:43:19,860 of Jesus Christ with that of President Xi Jinping. That logic 2481 02:43:19,890 --> 02:43:23,820 the Jesus Christ would not, would not pull the poor 2482 02:43:23,850 --> 02:43:27,420 Christians out of their poverty by President Xi Jinping. Quote, 2483 02:43:27,990 --> 02:43:31,170 on the back of this logic, the Christian for in the shanty 2484 02:43:31,170 --> 02:43:34,410 province have been asked to take down the images of Jesus Christ, 2485 02:43:34,410 --> 02:43:39,240 the crucifixes and rosary beads and instead, replace them. With 2486 02:43:39,240 --> 02:43:43,440 the posters of President Xi Jinping. What has drawn sharp 2487 02:43:43,440 --> 02:43:46,470 criticism in this promotion of the culture of Xi Jinping is 2488 02:43:46,470 --> 02:43:49,470 that those who do not replace the images of Jesus Christ with 2489 02:43:49,470 --> 02:43:52,650 that of Xi Jinping will not be provided with the poverty 2490 02:43:52,680 --> 02:43:56,760 alleviation. policies of government services and funding 2491 02:43:56,760 --> 02:44:01,710 by the Chinese government. Also, in fact, included as a penalty 2492 02:44:01,740 --> 02:44:05,730 for not conforming to that norm. The Jiangxi province has more 2493 02:44:05,730 --> 02:44:09,420 than 11 million members of the Christian community who live in 2494 02:44:09,420 --> 02:44:13,140 abject poverty. According to some service members of the 2495 02:44:13,140 --> 02:44:17,850 Christian community across the whole of China is about 90 2496 02:44:17,850 --> 02:44:21,060 million which outnumbers the total membership of the 2497 02:44:21,060 --> 02:44:24,210 Communist Party in the country. President Xi Jinping in the 2498 02:44:24,210 --> 02:44:27,540 promotion of his personality cult is trying to recreate a 2499 02:44:27,540 --> 02:44:30,990 similar practice where after the Cultural Revolution in China, 2500 02:44:31,200 --> 02:44:33,900 people used to hang up the posters of Mao Zedong. 2501 02:44:35,700 --> 02:44:41,040 Well, it's such a simple and effective strategy where you 2502 02:44:41,040 --> 02:44:46,110 say, okay, Zhang ping, T will replace Jesus because He will 2503 02:44:46,110 --> 02:44:51,900 bring salvation to you the poor, and if you don't hang up his 2504 02:44:51,900 --> 02:44:55,950 picture, then you'll see and if you do, oh yes, there comes to 2505 02:44:55,950 --> 02:44:58,590 salvation, because you don't get it if you don't have this 2506 02:44:58,590 --> 02:44:59,970 picture. But meanwhile, the 2507 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:05,160 Kids learn that that's the guy. The next generation is who this 2508 02:45:05,160 --> 02:45:10,110 affects most deeply. Yes. That's sick. How old? Is this a new 2509 02:45:10,110 --> 02:45:10,530 clip? 2510 02:45:11,820 --> 02:45:17,760 Ah, I think maybe a year or two old. Wow. Yeah. That's what's 2511 02:45:17,760 --> 02:45:23,430 out now you going back now? You want me to buy into that? Right? 2512 02:45:23,580 --> 02:45:24,750 I think not. 2513 02:45:27,630 --> 02:45:31,290 And I think I will be comfortable to say a lot 2514 02:45:31,290 --> 02:45:32,280 majority of 2515 02:45:34,560 --> 02:45:39,600 people in America, black or not our non black would not go for 2516 02:45:39,600 --> 02:45:42,630 that either. I think they'd be shocked. I'd never heard of this 2517 02:45:42,630 --> 02:45:45,120 clip. I think they'd be shocked if they knew that was going on. 2518 02:45:46,440 --> 02:45:49,950 Yeah, but you see, that's why it's the what is it called 2519 02:45:49,980 --> 02:45:54,510 Overton window? I think the Overton window. Okay, Jesus 2520 02:45:54,510 --> 02:46:00,360 comes down for Beyonce, Michelle Obama and other lady. Okay, now 2521 02:46:00,360 --> 02:46:02,280 we replace them with Gigi Ping. 2522 02:46:05,580 --> 02:46:08,250 Yeah, isn't that rolled off his tongue to say Oh, yeah, we took 2523 02:46:08,250 --> 02:46:10,590 down Jesus, JFK and MLK. Oh, yeah. 2524 02:46:12,870 --> 02:46:16,890 We put up a first lady a celebrity and it's like what? So 2525 02:46:17,160 --> 02:46:22,020 they're preparing you to get rid of your faith, whatever your 2526 02:46:22,020 --> 02:46:23,100 faith is, or 2527 02:46:24,840 --> 02:46:27,690 whatever. They're preparing. They're preparing the next 2528 02:46:27,690 --> 02:46:31,170 generation. That's really who it affects everything we've heard 2529 02:46:31,170 --> 02:46:34,110 about. Okay, the first picture I saw when I was born, that was my 2530 02:46:34,110 --> 02:46:38,010 mom it was Jesus Christ. And now it'll be Gigi ping 2531 02:46:40,260 --> 02:46:44,640 or it'll be Beyonce and she's endorsing that regime 2532 02:46:47,070 --> 02:46:50,700 Wow, I'm a little depressed mo hold on let's do this. Some 2533 02:46:50,700 --> 02:46:52,980 people out there who need my services 2534 02:46:54,630 --> 02:46:56,220 any people out there who are weak 2535 02:46:57,540 --> 02:46:58,260 people out there who are 2536 02:47:03,540 --> 02:47:05,310 out there who just need to hear 2537 02:47:06,750 --> 02:47:07,710 y'all got kids 2538 02:47:12,870 --> 02:47:15,540 there you go. Yeah, we're not beating around the bush about it 2539 02:47:15,540 --> 02:47:17,610 either. Don't have to hang up our picture anywhere on your 2540 02:47:17,610 --> 02:47:20,910 wall. No, all we want is to thank our producers, the 2541 02:47:20,910 --> 02:47:24,450 remaining ones on the list for episode number 59. And again as 2542 02:47:24,450 --> 02:47:28,050 value for value so we appreciate anything you send because that 2543 02:47:28,050 --> 02:47:31,710 clearly is the value for you and that's what counts. And if you 2544 02:47:31,710 --> 02:47:35,640 run down the list Tyler Boyd $40 and says movie ever stumbled 2545 02:47:35,640 --> 02:47:40,590 upon the YouTube channel ca be grand rising show? I have not 2546 02:47:40,590 --> 02:47:42,630 but I did add it to my watch list. 2547 02:47:43,710 --> 02:47:44,730 Now Okay, check out 2548 02:47:45,810 --> 02:47:48,720 Tyler says I stumbled on this channel researching famous 2549 02:47:48,720 --> 02:47:51,450 America speeches thing speeches, things you are kindred spirits. 2550 02:47:51,510 --> 02:47:54,990 Okay? The deeper down you go. The more cracks begin to show 2551 02:47:54,990 --> 02:47:58,740 and the more you know the more you grow peace. 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You have free time. gift for 2606 02:51:41,520 --> 02:51:45,360 kids, you got a podcast, you got a real day job. And you've got 2607 02:51:45,360 --> 02:51:48,300 to wake up early man, or stay up late. 2608 02:51:50,220 --> 02:51:52,980 Once the kids go to bed, it's like one time. 2609 02:51:54,750 --> 02:51:58,560 Mo fax.com or go directly to the donation page at mo fund 2610 02:51:58,560 --> 02:52:02,910 me.com MOFND me.com thank you again for producing episode 2611 02:52:02,910 --> 02:52:03,990 number 59. 2612 02:52:06,210 --> 02:52:10,470 Alright, so coming down the homestretch. Uh, let's see what 2613 02:52:10,470 --> 02:52:13,200 we got off the list. So far. We got the scientific method, 2614 02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:16,830 rational thinking check. individualism check. Hard work 2615 02:52:16,830 --> 02:52:20,010 check. Yeah, geez, Christianity slash the Bible. Let's just say 2616 02:52:20,010 --> 02:52:22,560 the Bible. Yeah. Cuz I mean, that Christianity thing is kind 2617 02:52:22,560 --> 02:52:25,290 of what what do we what are we missing? What else do we have to 2618 02:52:25,290 --> 02:52:25,410 get 2619 02:52:26,490 --> 02:52:27,810 out of stable nuclear family? 2620 02:52:29,220 --> 02:52:32,460 Let's ruin that. Let's get rid of that. So 2621 02:52:33,840 --> 02:52:36,480 as I pointed out, we've been talking about this thing for 2622 02:52:36,480 --> 02:52:39,780 over a year. Yeah. I mean, we got clips from that, you know, 2623 02:52:39,810 --> 02:52:41,340 just the second show. 2624 02:52:42,750 --> 02:52:45,450 We've been talking and it's not a pattern, I bet. It's just that 2625 02:52:47,220 --> 02:52:51,750 this conversation needs to be had amongst you and someone 2626 02:52:51,750 --> 02:52:55,470 else, like me and Adam, this is a conversation between me and 2627 02:52:55,470 --> 02:53:01,050 Adam. When we get together, and like, and we fill in the blank 2628 02:53:01,050 --> 02:53:03,780 screenshot, it's like, Oh, I didn't know that, you know, and 2629 02:53:03,780 --> 02:53:08,010 in the picture becomes clear. So this guy, this is Mr. Jason 2630 02:53:08,010 --> 02:53:13,320 Whitlock, and this is for show 21. And he was talking about the 2631 02:53:13,320 --> 02:53:17,400 planned demise of the black family, all kinds of decisions 2632 02:53:17,400 --> 02:53:21,720 are being made, all kinds of new cultural norms are being 2633 02:53:21,720 --> 02:53:25,560 established, that perhaps you don't agree with. 2634 02:53:26,610 --> 02:53:31,170 And, but you're running around chasing after Trump, and don't 2635 02:53:31,170 --> 02:53:35,190 even care, that all your cultural norms are being 2636 02:53:35,190 --> 02:53:41,430 reshaped. And and, again, we have created particular is 2637 02:53:41,430 --> 02:53:45,690 throughout American society, but it's most acute in our society. 2638 02:53:46,590 --> 02:53:52,650 We have been convinced as black men and women that we don't need 2639 02:53:52,650 --> 02:53:58,410 each other. Right? That's the most toxic, poisonous, dangerous 2640 02:53:58,890 --> 02:54:01,950 creation we can have. We're on the precipice of self 2641 02:54:01,950 --> 02:54:03,810 destruction, if that takes root. 2642 02:54:05,400 --> 02:54:10,350 Yep. Sounded like hyperbole then. Yeah, but not really now, 2643 02:54:10,350 --> 02:54:14,310 huh? When would you have the documentation that says Oh, 2644 02:54:14,310 --> 02:54:18,150 yeah, you know, that stable family, stable nuclear family. 2645 02:54:18,690 --> 02:54:23,310 And I saw this thing cropping up. If they do this weird 2646 02:54:25,410 --> 02:54:29,250 sleight of hand trick. They say, well, we're talking about 2647 02:54:29,250 --> 02:54:34,260 extended family. Yeah, right to be. Well, if you just take it on 2648 02:54:34,260 --> 02:54:36,780 service, I'm like, that's cool. Because I kind of grew up with 2649 02:54:36,780 --> 02:54:41,340 extended families. You know, your grandma lived with you. You 2650 02:54:41,340 --> 02:54:45,480 know, I mean, she's still a very, very successful model and 2651 02:54:45,480 --> 02:54:49,320 many cocoa is the best is the best. I mean, my mother in law 2652 02:54:49,320 --> 02:54:50,310 lived with me for 2653 02:54:51,480 --> 02:54:55,410 four years. And you you It's amazing. 2654 02:54:57,420 --> 02:54:59,970 The relationship she has with the kids and 2655 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:04,200 Yeah, um, if you need want to go out on a date, you don't have to 2656 02:55:04,200 --> 02:55:08,430 really get a babysitter, per se. Yeah, that's the whole idea of 2657 02:55:08,430 --> 02:55:13,320 mom and dad can still have a marriage, married life. It's a 2658 02:55:13,320 --> 02:55:16,380 pressure release. And it's like, it's like kids keep an eye on 2659 02:55:16,380 --> 02:55:19,020 grandma. But she cuts the stove off. 2660 02:55:20,430 --> 02:55:23,010 forgetful. I'm all for it. I didn't really grow up my 2661 02:55:23,010 --> 02:55:26,370 grandparents because we lived overseas. And I was always a 2662 02:55:26,370 --> 02:55:28,710 little envious. And when they came to visit, it was a big 2663 02:55:28,710 --> 02:55:33,600 deal. Yeah, well, luckily for me for a few years of my life, I 2664 02:55:33,600 --> 02:55:36,270 live next door to one set of grandparents. I'm talking about 2665 02:55:36,270 --> 02:55:41,460 literally next door. And then my maternal grandmother came to the 2666 02:55:41,460 --> 02:55:45,360 house almost every day. And as I said, I had a wonderful 2667 02:55:45,360 --> 02:55:50,220 childhood, I actually lived the American life, right? I mean, 2668 02:55:50,220 --> 02:55:52,860 like that it's meant to be and that's why I may be 2669 02:55:53,910 --> 02:55:57,960 so attached to it in a way because the way you know, I 2670 02:55:57,960 --> 02:55:59,730 mean, we have a lot of money, but 2671 02:56:00,870 --> 02:56:04,230 like I said, nuclear family and but then you had the extended 2672 02:56:04,230 --> 02:56:09,930 family nearby. And, you know, you learn so much. Really, I'm a 2673 02:56:09,930 --> 02:56:12,570 baby boomer. I'm 2674 02:56:13,710 --> 02:56:19,110 not in chronological years, but like, what am I, um, my makeup? 2675 02:56:19,620 --> 02:56:24,390 Because I saw my grandparents and, you know, I was so close to 2676 02:56:24,390 --> 02:56:28,050 them the things they instilled in me. I'm not really in that I 2677 02:56:28,050 --> 02:56:31,470 think I will be considered Generation X. But I had the 2678 02:56:31,470 --> 02:56:36,060 mindset of an older generation because I had an appreciation 2679 02:56:36,060 --> 02:56:38,340 for it because I was exposed to it but going back to what I was 2680 02:56:38,340 --> 02:56:42,060 saying was they sell you on the dream of extended family of 2681 02:56:42,060 --> 02:56:45,390 cousins and now that's not what they're talking about. what 2682 02:56:45,390 --> 02:56:49,260 they're talking about. is these makeshift families. Right? Where 2683 02:56:49,260 --> 02:56:53,880 are you? on clay we're friends get together. Everybody can 2684 02:56:53,880 --> 02:56:54,870 afford a house. 2685 02:57:01,200 --> 02:57:03,450 That Zach we're talking about. And I'm gonna give you a sample 2686 02:57:03,450 --> 02:57:06,450 how this breezed over into pop culture and mainstream culture. 2687 02:57:06,540 --> 02:57:07,560 Oh, okay. 2688 02:57:08,910 --> 02:57:09,840 Friends giving? 2689 02:57:11,130 --> 02:57:14,550 Yes. Yeah, you're right. Friends giving 2690 02:57:16,890 --> 02:57:20,580 you not really to policy your family. Get together with 2691 02:57:20,580 --> 02:57:23,520 friends and now call it friends. This is this is the new plan 2692 02:57:24,060 --> 02:57:28,950 where you'll be living in a bunk you have a book in a 2693 02:57:30,510 --> 02:57:32,220 dorm in a dorm? Yeah. 2694 02:57:33,840 --> 02:57:37,140 I think you did a clip on with a Lululemon guy, where he like, 2695 02:57:37,260 --> 02:57:40,080 sleeps in like a bunk and he has like two pair of underwear. 2696 02:57:41,160 --> 02:57:45,120 Pants. And, exactly. That's the plan for the future. And it's 2697 02:57:45,120 --> 02:57:49,260 like, well, the luxury of raise your kid to create your own 2698 02:57:49,260 --> 02:57:52,680 family. Cuz your real family sucks, and they don't understand 2699 02:57:52,680 --> 02:57:54,450 you. So this is the 2700 02:57:55,560 --> 02:57:58,650 this is the war, but they roll these things out. And you see me 2701 02:57:58,680 --> 02:58:01,710 like I said, I could have had 60 clips in the show. But it's just 2702 02:58:01,710 --> 02:58:05,640 that friendsgiving is a perfect example of this. It's not that 2703 02:58:05,640 --> 02:58:09,180 they're gonna sell you the extended family, which I'm more 2704 02:58:09,180 --> 02:58:12,690 than a fan of, because I think it takes stress off of kids to 2705 02:58:12,690 --> 02:58:15,990 get not the pressure to be 18 and figure things out and go off 2706 02:58:15,990 --> 02:58:18,780 on their own right. I really don't think kids and especially 2707 02:58:18,780 --> 02:58:23,400 kids in this gym in this age, because of Arrested Development. 2708 02:58:24,030 --> 02:58:28,620 Um, that not as a negative thing, but just, we age slower 2709 02:58:28,650 --> 02:58:33,360 now, or even myself, you know, I mean, me at 40 I will probably 2710 02:58:33,360 --> 02:58:38,730 be where my dad was, like, 27 I mean, so, cuz they grew up hard. 2711 02:58:38,730 --> 02:58:43,530 I mean, rough. Um, but yeah, so that's what they're trying to do 2712 02:58:43,530 --> 02:58:47,940 is they're trying to sell this I forget the name of it. It's like 2713 02:58:47,940 --> 02:58:52,680 a selected family or something like that. Where Yeah, so that's 2714 02:58:52,680 --> 02:58:55,440 what they're trying to do and familiar with the with a select 2715 02:58:55,440 --> 02:58:58,110 and I'm sure they do have a catchy phrase for it. I don't 2716 02:58:58,110 --> 02:59:01,860 know what it is. It is it slips my mind what it is, but um, 2717 02:59:02,520 --> 02:59:05,490 yeah, so basically you it won't be extended family which you 2718 02:59:05,490 --> 02:59:09,030 would think that's the opposite of the nuclear family. But no, 2719 02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:14,310 it's this the like, bit family, like all these friends. So, um, 2720 02:59:14,340 --> 02:59:16,770 Jason was on it. And he was saying like, yeah, they're 2721 02:59:16,770 --> 02:59:19,410 trying to say black men and women don't need each other and 2722 02:59:19,410 --> 02:59:24,000 as always say, it starts with us. And that's why you see 2723 02:59:26,040 --> 02:59:29,460 divorce and single parent families and things are through 2724 02:59:29,460 --> 02:59:31,110 the roof and man that's all you want to live. That's your 2725 02:59:31,110 --> 02:59:35,550 choice. But I don't like how the media selling it as the the best 2726 02:59:35,550 --> 02:59:39,780 way. If it works for you works for you. But let's get back into 2727 02:59:39,780 --> 02:59:43,290 fresh out 21 and get back in with Jason Whitlock in the 2728 02:59:43,290 --> 02:59:49,890 patriarchy. Believe in family blue. Believe in the patriarchy 2729 02:59:49,950 --> 02:59:53,400 where and again I don't talk I am the patriarchy. I tell people 2730 02:59:53,400 --> 02:59:57,870 up front. You know in it. I pay a price for that with these woke 2731 02:59:57,870 --> 02:59:59,910 women now but 2732 03:00:01,860 --> 03:00:09,030 I believe men and women have unique responsibilities. And I'm 2733 03:00:09,030 --> 03:00:14,550 willing to live up to mine. As a man. I don't again, unique 2734 03:00:14,550 --> 03:00:19,020 responsibilities, not unequal responsibilities, unique 2735 03:00:19,020 --> 03:00:23,160 responsibilities. All the responsibilities that apply to a 2736 03:00:23,160 --> 03:00:28,440 man. I'm willing to take on. Family of choice or chosen 2737 03:00:28,440 --> 03:00:32,490 family, chosen family. That's the one I see. That's the trick. 2738 03:00:32,520 --> 03:00:35,460 It's like you think nuclear family extended family? No, it's 2739 03:00:35,460 --> 03:00:39,270 the chosen family. It's the family of choice versus the 2740 03:00:39,270 --> 03:00:41,190 family of procreation. 2741 03:00:42,330 --> 03:00:42,840 Yes. 2742 03:00:45,450 --> 03:00:48,600 Man, it's so heavy. So heavy duty stuff. You know what the 2743 03:00:48,600 --> 03:00:50,760 weird thing is, I got a couple of messages. 2744 03:00:51,810 --> 03:00:52,200 And like, 2745 03:00:53,370 --> 03:00:56,250 people actually think you're the conservative one on this show, 2746 03:00:56,250 --> 03:00:56,730 Adam. 2747 03:00:59,370 --> 03:01:00,330 That is interesting. 2748 03:01:02,730 --> 03:01:05,460 No, but that's that's the biased thing. They're like, well, the 2749 03:01:05,490 --> 03:01:08,490 black guy has to be more liberal than the white guy. I mean, it's 2750 03:01:08,490 --> 03:01:13,350 father. No. I'd say you're a little bit more in Yeah, I think 2751 03:01:14,730 --> 03:01:18,300 I am. I am. I think you're not saying that. This you're 2752 03:01:18,300 --> 03:01:22,140 liberal, but I'm just saying, I embrace my not when I say 2753 03:01:22,140 --> 03:01:24,480 conservative, I'm not talking about political affiliation. 2754 03:01:26,850 --> 03:01:29,910 Explain it to the peenya. I'm talking about a social 2755 03:01:30,540 --> 03:01:37,170 conservative. Ah, and to give you an example of, we always 2756 03:01:37,170 --> 03:01:40,770 talk about television shows we have to go back to billions. And 2757 03:01:40,770 --> 03:01:42,900 one of the guys identify with 2758 03:01:44,190 --> 03:01:50,220 my guilty pleasure is Charles rose senior from billions. And I 2759 03:01:50,220 --> 03:01:51,060 get him. 2760 03:01:55,230 --> 03:02:00,150 And this is a this is him giving advice on divorce. He really did 2761 03:02:00,150 --> 03:02:02,190 try to try harder. 2762 03:02:05,040 --> 03:02:08,070 On the marriage seven years before you even entertain the 2763 03:02:08,070 --> 03:02:11,130 notion of a divorce ad and the day that Dorsey brothers showed 2764 03:02:11,130 --> 03:02:14,400 that Presley boys swiveling his hips, there's been a slow but 2765 03:02:14,400 --> 03:02:18,120 steady erosion of the family. Well, here's how you keep one 2766 03:02:18,120 --> 03:02:21,660 going. You find a group of friends better than you find one 2767 03:02:21,660 --> 03:02:26,550 worse about them to each other. And then when you're all bitched 2768 03:02:26,550 --> 03:02:30,810 out, run 10 miles a day, take your birth control pills, and 2769 03:02:30,810 --> 03:02:36,090 flush them and make that kid your project together. And if 2770 03:02:36,120 --> 03:02:40,500 IRA doesn't know how to fuck you, you teach him, okay. 2771 03:02:41,670 --> 03:02:45,720 I'm not done. One more thing. Give yourself the Lyme test. You 2772 03:02:45,720 --> 03:02:48,390 stick your finger in lime juice and put it up inside and if it 2773 03:02:48,390 --> 03:02:52,830 stings, get yourself cleaned out. does not bring the clap 2774 03:02:52,950 --> 03:02:56,160 home. Your husband. It's unsafe. Oh 2775 03:02:59,820 --> 03:03:06,840 my god. Man, old school. Girls, Roy. Yeah. Identify with people 2776 03:03:06,840 --> 03:03:08,400 like that. So 2777 03:03:09,930 --> 03:03:14,280 I think people should try to keep families intact and create 2778 03:03:14,280 --> 03:03:20,160 families in it. That's just me. Speaking of, of television 2779 03:03:20,160 --> 03:03:24,720 shows, I'm reading here that the Fox Television so almost family? 2780 03:03:25,320 --> 03:03:25,710 Uh huh. 2781 03:03:26,940 --> 03:03:30,930 Well, that is some deep propaganda for the family of 2782 03:03:30,930 --> 03:03:35,790 choice. And I think this is us is another one. You're probably 2783 03:03:35,790 --> 03:03:41,940 right. Yeah. Francis, in one phrase was an earlier version of 2784 03:03:41,940 --> 03:03:44,670 this chosen family. Yeah. 2785 03:03:45,990 --> 03:03:46,320 Yeah. 2786 03:03:47,760 --> 03:03:50,250 If you watched it, watch the commercials. 2787 03:03:52,080 --> 03:03:57,060 Watch the commercials. Yeah. You better start the pressing me mo 2788 03:03:58,050 --> 03:04:01,890 no, not identify the prey. We identify the problem we can 2789 03:04:01,890 --> 03:04:05,340 solve the problem. The problem is that we do think everything 2790 03:04:05,370 --> 03:04:08,520 Oh, yeah, Prince given. But if you want to get with friends 2791 03:04:08,520 --> 03:04:12,210 with thanksgiving, understand, oh, like so my family, I get it. 2792 03:04:13,620 --> 03:04:14,460 Right. But 2793 03:04:15,660 --> 03:04:19,290 it's just this thing of choosing, you get to choose 2794 03:04:19,290 --> 03:04:23,580 everything. You get to choose your family. It's about 2795 03:04:23,580 --> 03:04:26,160 destroying lineage, is what I mean. That's what it's about. It 2796 03:04:26,160 --> 03:04:28,770 is destroying everything, everything, everything, the 2797 03:04:28,770 --> 03:04:34,020 fabric that all fabric care, so much of your self identity comes 2798 03:04:34,020 --> 03:04:38,250 from your lineage. Whether you like it or not, it's what it is. 2799 03:04:39,030 --> 03:04:42,270 The way you're made up if you're around your parents, your 2800 03:04:42,270 --> 03:04:44,640 brothers, your sisters, your aunts, uncles, your see 2801 03:04:44,640 --> 03:04:47,310 yourself, you like that aggravates 2802 03:04:48,390 --> 03:04:52,410 that aggravates me about them, and then you realize you do it 2803 03:04:52,410 --> 03:04:56,640 too. So then that's how you have self improvement. So I mean, 2804 03:04:56,640 --> 03:04:59,970 it's it's it's the process so 2805 03:05:01,350 --> 03:05:04,590 Going back to black men, the problem is now these black men, 2806 03:05:04,590 --> 03:05:07,500 right? Black men are the white men or white people or black 2807 03:05:07,500 --> 03:05:11,070 people. That's the narrative. And that's why we can't get 2808 03:05:11,070 --> 03:05:14,670 along. Because we have these crazy conservative ideas that 2809 03:05:14,670 --> 03:05:18,600 come from the patriarchy. This comes from the conspiracy to 2810 03:05:18,690 --> 03:05:21,120 destroy black boys from show nine. 2811 03:05:22,290 --> 03:05:26,610 And it tells you pretty much what black men want in general, 2812 03:05:27,060 --> 03:05:30,420 out now we have a lot of people making plenty of money and love 2813 03:05:31,500 --> 03:05:33,480 that place money for for family. 2814 03:05:34,860 --> 03:05:39,390 You see black men, regular white men buy their family house in 2815 03:05:39,390 --> 03:05:43,920 the suburbs to car and once a year go down to Orlando for 2816 03:05:43,920 --> 03:05:48,150 Disney World vacation. And when black men can't do that, they 2817 03:05:48,150 --> 03:05:49,830 don't feel they're worthy enough to stay. 2818 03:05:51,510 --> 03:05:57,030 So that was a short clip. But I found a longer clip that really 2819 03:05:57,030 --> 03:06:02,370 explains what's your working class. And that's that's what I 2820 03:06:02,370 --> 03:06:06,600 speak for. I mean, people think I may think I'm a professional 2821 03:06:06,600 --> 03:06:11,340 because I'm an engineer, but bro, I'll work my way up from 2822 03:06:11,340 --> 03:06:16,620 packing boxes at the end of the line to where I'm at now. So my 2823 03:06:16,620 --> 03:06:21,450 heart and my my understanding goes out to the dude that lights 2824 03:06:21,450 --> 03:06:25,320 them up every day, and go may earn a living. 2825 03:06:27,870 --> 03:06:33,180 And all we want every time is outlined in this next clip, 2826 03:06:33,300 --> 03:06:36,570 which, of course, if you want to talk about black men and black 2827 03:06:36,570 --> 03:06:40,560 families, you got to go talk to Steve Bannon. Right? That would 2828 03:06:40,560 --> 03:06:42,900 seem like the guy I mean, that's almost like 2829 03:06:44,280 --> 03:06:44,730 our, 2830 03:06:46,050 --> 03:06:46,830 our buddy 2831 03:06:47,850 --> 03:06:52,080 herskovits seems like seems like the guy seems like he has the 2832 03:06:52,080 --> 03:06:56,490 profile. Well, let's listen to Steve Bannon talk about his 2833 03:06:56,490 --> 03:06:58,620 family and how they came up with 2834 03:06:59,820 --> 03:07:01,020 the bill. You know, 2835 03:07:02,040 --> 03:07:04,740 my grandfather and father faith, the only two guys in the history 2836 03:07:04,740 --> 03:07:07,830 of the bell system to be both 50 employees. My grandfather worked 2837 03:07:07,830 --> 03:07:11,730 there 50 years as a lineman, and a PBX guy. And my dad was 50 2838 03:07:11,730 --> 03:07:14,850 years started in the sewer pulling cable and worked for 50 2839 03:07:14,850 --> 03:07:18,300 years as a father and son worked 50 years for the phone company. 2840 03:07:18,300 --> 03:07:20,700 So you had these big institutions, you know, I was 2841 03:07:20,940 --> 03:07:24,900 fortunate enough to be raised in a in a great time in America, 2842 03:07:24,900 --> 03:07:28,770 right, the 50s and 60s. And he believed in these big 2843 03:07:28,770 --> 03:07:33,510 institutions, the Catholic Church, the phone company, and 2844 03:07:33,510 --> 03:07:35,790 these were, you know, permanent fixtures in your life. And it's 2845 03:07:35,790 --> 03:07:39,630 kind of that stability came from a neighborhood that was a little 2846 03:07:39,630 --> 03:07:44,010 bit tough, but it was not like, it was a very solid, great 2847 03:07:44,340 --> 03:07:46,200 background, I go throughout the world and meet these very 2848 03:07:46,200 --> 03:07:48,840 wealthy people I deal with all the time and see their kids, the 2849 03:07:48,840 --> 03:07:52,260 greatest thing you can give a kid is that kind of basic core 2850 03:07:52,620 --> 03:07:55,800 loving family that's there and rock solid. So the family, the 2851 03:07:55,800 --> 03:08:00,990 church, the community, the phone company, these are institutions. 2852 03:08:01,020 --> 03:08:04,560 And so institutions are, are everything is a very 2853 03:08:04,560 --> 03:08:06,540 institutional life when you think about it quite 2854 03:08:06,540 --> 03:08:10,230 hierarchical, but it's it's it gives you a set framework that 2855 03:08:10,230 --> 03:08:13,950 you can you can you can grow and be you know, get to be an adult 2856 03:08:13,950 --> 03:08:15,870 and there's a real sense of, 2857 03:08:16,980 --> 03:08:19,170 you know, something that's solid, there's something that's 2858 03:08:19,170 --> 03:08:25,080 real. Yeah. So he pointed out, he said, you need the family, 2859 03:08:25,740 --> 03:08:28,500 the church industry, yep. 2860 03:08:30,690 --> 03:08:35,490 The way that we used to work is my dad worked in this factory. 2861 03:08:36,270 --> 03:08:40,710 And if my son just wanted to be up to my standard of living, I 2862 03:08:40,710 --> 03:08:42,900 will get him a job at the factory. And this is a night 2863 03:08:42,900 --> 03:08:47,490 where your kids can inherit your job. It used to be that way, you 2864 03:08:47,490 --> 03:08:51,750 know, cuz you get your keys in the union or Yeah, or, you know, 2865 03:08:51,780 --> 03:08:55,020 our own at the factory. And, you know, at least you know, you 2866 03:08:55,020 --> 03:08:57,870 know what, my son is not going to have a worse life than mine. 2867 03:08:58,440 --> 03:09:03,090 But this is where America sold their people out. And black man 2868 03:09:03,090 --> 03:09:04,770 was just like, that's all we want, you know, 2869 03:09:05,940 --> 03:09:08,550 is the, you know, live in our own neighborhood and have our 2870 03:09:08,550 --> 03:09:11,430 church. And the reason why I use the black man and clip is 2871 03:09:11,430 --> 03:09:12,060 because 2872 03:09:13,320 --> 03:09:17,100 he's Irish Catholic. wish they were the last to get on the 2873 03:09:17,100 --> 03:09:18,180 white train. Right. 2874 03:09:21,000 --> 03:09:23,730 Cuz, I mean, if you read some of the literature from the KKK, 2875 03:09:23,730 --> 03:09:27,360 they hated the cat. No, yeah, yeah, right up there, if not 2876 03:09:27,360 --> 03:09:30,390 more than blacks. I mean, it was it was neck and neck at times. 2877 03:09:30,390 --> 03:09:35,460 But what I was saying is, even with that, you know, built in 2878 03:09:37,110 --> 03:09:40,740 roadblocks, they carved out their own little neighborhood 2879 03:09:40,740 --> 03:09:43,170 and they carved out their industry. And, you know, 2880 03:09:43,170 --> 03:09:43,410 they're, 2881 03:09:44,490 --> 03:09:47,070 I think they were talking about the phone company, the bell Bell 2882 03:09:47,070 --> 03:09:50,730 company, and his granddad worked there for 50 years. His dad 2883 03:09:50,730 --> 03:09:53,490 worked there for 50 years now look at him. You know, two 2884 03:09:53,490 --> 03:09:56,820 generations, three generations. Now you have a son that's a 2885 03:09:56,820 --> 03:09:59,760 Hollywood mogul, I believe. I think this is 2886 03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:01,650 Official of 2887 03:10:03,120 --> 03:10:04,410 work, he's, 2888 03:10:05,640 --> 03:10:10,050 he got I know he made money in Hollywood, he owns a piece of 2889 03:10:10,050 --> 03:10:15,750 the Seinfeld show. He invested. Yeah. two to two working in 2890 03:10:15,750 --> 03:10:19,620 stores put in line and been two generations from there. So let's 2891 03:10:19,620 --> 03:10:20,460 all we won't 2892 03:10:21,480 --> 03:10:25,170 give us a shot. But you know what? I'm gonna tell you like 2893 03:10:25,170 --> 03:10:26,610 this, um, 2894 03:10:27,960 --> 03:10:31,650 we're not given that shot. And I had to be very serious when I 2895 03:10:31,650 --> 03:10:35,460 say this now. Because when you see a black man, 2896 03:10:37,530 --> 03:10:38,580 let me see, I can say this. 2897 03:10:39,960 --> 03:10:42,450 When you see a black man give it his all. 2898 03:10:44,070 --> 03:10:48,660 And is chewed up, spit out by the system. 2899 03:10:50,940 --> 03:10:54,720 You saw this in the rust belt with white Americans. And you 2900 03:10:54,720 --> 03:10:57,840 know, I think Michael Moore said this, the reason why they voted 2901 03:10:57,840 --> 03:11:01,560 for Trump, it was a big middle finger to the, to the you know, 2902 03:11:01,560 --> 03:11:02,130 to the 2903 03:11:04,170 --> 03:11:08,340 establishment and the elite, right? You put your you gave it 2904 03:11:08,340 --> 03:11:11,670 your all. And then the company has walked in and gives you a 2905 03:11:11,670 --> 03:11:15,690 pink slip. Or, you know, you phase you out cuz you're too old 2906 03:11:15,690 --> 03:11:20,940 or don't give you a pension. And you as a black man, you see your 2907 03:11:20,940 --> 03:11:22,500 father done like this? 2908 03:11:24,900 --> 03:11:30,270 Marxism and communism seems like a viable option. Like it is what 2909 03:11:30,420 --> 03:11:32,310 it is what capitalism has for me. 2910 03:11:34,950 --> 03:11:38,280 And if you don't believe me, listen to this. This is real, 2911 03:11:38,280 --> 03:11:38,880 because 2912 03:11:40,740 --> 03:11:43,260 I'm in the middle right now. And I'm looking at my Dad, I'm 2913 03:11:43,260 --> 03:11:45,060 looking at my son. And I'm like, 2914 03:11:47,340 --> 03:11:53,070 Is it something here for me? Like, it was an American 2915 03:11:53,070 --> 03:11:56,940 contract? Does that really exist still? Or is it every man for 2916 03:11:56,940 --> 03:12:00,660 himself? You know, and then you got to make the best deal for 2917 03:12:00,660 --> 03:12:03,180 yourself? I don't even know if I can answer that at the moment. 2918 03:12:03,180 --> 03:12:08,520 Mo. I think structurally, yeah. But the fabric on top of it, 2919 03:12:09,000 --> 03:12:12,480 that communicates that message is very distorted. But that's 2920 03:12:12,480 --> 03:12:16,020 what you saw at the Capitol. Exactly. That's what you saw at. 2921 03:12:16,080 --> 03:12:19,170 I mean, that's why I can empathize with those folks. 2922 03:12:19,170 --> 03:12:19,830 Because 2923 03:12:20,850 --> 03:12:23,940 when they shut down the flour mills and the textile mills and 2924 03:12:23,940 --> 03:12:28,110 a small knock on town from before my uncles had high school 2925 03:12:28,140 --> 03:12:30,750 education at best, but they could take care of their 2926 03:12:30,750 --> 03:12:32,040 families. Right. 2927 03:12:33,630 --> 03:12:36,420 Fast forward, you know, 30 years. 2928 03:12:37,740 --> 03:12:40,320 And you could have two people working and you're scraping by. 2929 03:12:41,220 --> 03:12:44,130 This is the deal America wants to get given to you wonder why 2930 03:12:44,130 --> 03:12:47,550 the kids are looking for a new political structure? Yeah, no, 2931 03:12:47,550 --> 03:12:49,050 you're right. Are you surprised? 2932 03:12:50,190 --> 03:12:52,860 Well, I'm not gonna put it I'm not gonna put it off. I'll often 2933 03:12:52,860 --> 03:12:55,530 the young people in the people that's looking for different now 2934 03:12:55,530 --> 03:12:59,880 I will say they're short sighted. Because you know, but I 2935 03:12:59,880 --> 03:13:01,650 am seeing very hopeful 2936 03:13:05,070 --> 03:13:10,740 very hopeful moves towards other exits than the than a socialist 2937 03:13:10,740 --> 03:13:11,190 system. 2938 03:13:12,660 --> 03:13:15,960 I see a lot. What about the worker? What about the guy that 2939 03:13:15,960 --> 03:13:20,010 just wants to get out 40 hours a week, when I'm talking about 2940 03:13:20,070 --> 03:13:23,280 young young young people who have come out of college with 2941 03:13:23,280 --> 03:13:26,490 papers worthless, and they are starting to build their own 2942 03:13:26,490 --> 03:13:29,850 world, they're starting to build their own systems. Bitcoin is a 2943 03:13:29,850 --> 03:13:33,480 part of that. I think that's a different crowd, though. I'm 2944 03:13:33,480 --> 03:13:35,430 talking about the guy that gets up 2945 03:13:36,930 --> 03:13:41,070 and just wants to go and be a contributor for 40 hours a week 2946 03:13:41,460 --> 03:13:45,900 and have the house May, I'll just say stay bad, a small house 2947 03:13:45,960 --> 03:13:49,170 and not a nice neighborhood. I mean, it wasn't the suburbs. You 2948 03:13:49,170 --> 03:13:53,490 know, I mean, it was working class. Right. Well, that's what 2949 03:13:53,490 --> 03:13:57,120 it was got one of those guys got you. I mean, what is the 2950 03:13:57,120 --> 03:14:01,290 manufacturing that that is? That has to be brought back? I would 2951 03:14:01,290 --> 03:14:04,260 not know what it is. Otherwise, there's farming. No, that's what 2952 03:14:04,260 --> 03:14:07,260 I'm telling you. That's what I'm saying to America. You're 2953 03:14:07,260 --> 03:14:09,390 playing with fire right now for sure. 2954 03:14:11,760 --> 03:14:14,610 Because once those people stopped believing in the dream 2955 03:14:14,940 --> 03:14:19,440 thing, not communicating that dream to the and like I say, the 2956 03:14:20,310 --> 03:14:24,270 the keeper of that dream is black America. I'm just gonna 2957 03:14:24,330 --> 03:14:25,290 give it to you straight. 2958 03:14:26,490 --> 03:14:30,750 Because we bought in, you know, go to school, make yourself 2959 03:14:30,750 --> 03:14:33,750 viable, you know, whether you're a plumber or electrician, you 2960 03:14:33,750 --> 03:14:38,760 know, I mean that the workers. I mean, like I said, I'm dabbling 2961 03:14:38,760 --> 03:14:45,480 in entrepreneurial things right now. But I can tell you what the 2962 03:14:45,480 --> 03:14:46,770 sentiment of the worker is. 2963 03:14:48,180 --> 03:14:49,740 Yeah, it's messed up. 2964 03:14:51,270 --> 03:14:54,060 And when you lose them, you lose your country. So I've asked 2965 03:14:54,060 --> 03:14:57,450 that's the drag that out but without this said, all that is 2966 03:14:57,450 --> 03:14:59,880 set this next clip up and this is a 2967 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:04,950 angry black man, quote, angry, um, because he's seen his 2968 03:15:04,950 --> 03:15:05,670 father, 2969 03:15:06,810 --> 03:15:07,590 destroy. 2970 03:15:09,809 --> 03:15:13,949 And he ended up becoming a communist. And you want to play 2971 03:15:13,949 --> 03:15:14,429 the clip. 2972 03:15:17,789 --> 03:15:21,779 Keep your word. Alright, if you are a man, you keep your word. 2973 03:15:22,589 --> 03:15:26,429 And now all the black people in this country are demanding, and 2974 03:15:26,429 --> 03:15:29,249 even the black people in the whole world are demanding is 2975 03:15:29,249 --> 03:15:30,779 that you keep your word 2976 03:15:31,890 --> 03:15:35,820 you told us we were free will then show us that we're free. 2977 03:15:36,660 --> 03:15:39,870 You told us that there is justice, equality for all in 2978 03:15:39,870 --> 03:15:43,830 this country, you will stick to your word. And let us see the 2979 03:15:43,830 --> 03:15:49,020 justice and equality for all. Or else. You're not a man, your 2980 03:15:49,020 --> 03:15:51,750 word you're afraid of us, you're afraid to give us equal. 2981 03:15:52,830 --> 03:15:55,680 You're afraid that if you give us equal ground that we will 2982 03:15:55,680 --> 03:15:59,580 match you and we will override you. And if that's what you're 2983 03:15:59,580 --> 03:16:00,090 afraid of 2984 03:16:01,410 --> 03:16:05,400 just what you're afraid of. But don't keep hiding it from us and 2985 03:16:05,400 --> 03:16:08,490 holding this up to us. And every time we ask you for something, 2986 03:16:08,610 --> 03:16:10,590 you give us a little bit of something and 2987 03:16:11,730 --> 03:16:15,330 we don't want tokenism. And then most black men in this wallet 2988 03:16:15,330 --> 03:16:16,590 don't want charity. 2989 03:16:18,090 --> 03:16:20,220 Every time we ask you for something, you give us a little 2990 03:16:20,220 --> 03:16:22,860 piece a little piece, you're playing games with us. 2991 03:16:24,840 --> 03:16:27,150 What big man I've seen my father. 2992 03:16:29,790 --> 03:16:34,020 He was a big man he raised, he went down. And he has to go 2993 03:16:34,020 --> 03:16:36,000 around to the back door with his wife. 2994 03:16:37,740 --> 03:16:40,800 We're not asking for anything. We're not asking for any favors. 2995 03:16:40,800 --> 03:16:42,540 All we want is what's ours. 2996 03:16:47,190 --> 03:16:48,510 And that's the sentiment. Now. 2997 03:16:49,590 --> 03:16:53,370 We bought into this country and I say we I'm speaking for the 2998 03:16:53,370 --> 03:16:58,290 worker now. Not the worker in the communist aspect. But the 2999 03:16:58,290 --> 03:17:04,200 guys that drive the trucks and you know, those guys, and it's 3000 03:17:04,200 --> 03:17:08,460 getting to the point now where you can't even have a wife. 3001 03:17:09,840 --> 03:17:12,300 You don't have enough money to have a wife and a family 3002 03:17:12,300 --> 03:17:12,900 anymore. 3003 03:17:15,000 --> 03:17:20,190 That's not what you want for a country. No, no, it's not unique 3004 03:17:20,190 --> 03:17:21,840 to America right now. 3005 03:17:23,640 --> 03:17:24,120 But 3006 03:17:25,500 --> 03:17:30,420 some of our some of the problems we're dealing with are or the 3007 03:17:30,870 --> 03:17:34,080 actually the opportunities we have. I think it's a lot worse 3008 03:17:34,080 --> 03:17:38,070 than other countries a lot worse. And that's why I'm saying 3009 03:17:38,070 --> 03:17:39,180 like we thought 3010 03:17:40,320 --> 03:17:41,760 if we do the right thing, 3011 03:17:42,780 --> 03:17:45,660 it would be a contract. 3012 03:17:46,740 --> 03:17:49,620 You know, and like you said in the last guy said 3013 03:17:50,730 --> 03:17:53,010 no more just tell us it's not the deal. Right. But that's it. 3014 03:17:53,040 --> 03:17:57,060 You're not alone in the boat, obviously. You know, so not at 3015 03:17:57,090 --> 03:18:02,670 all. No at all. Yeah, okay. Well, people are what January 3016 03:18:02,670 --> 03:18:06,870 six? There you go, that that's what you're seeing that 3017 03:18:08,190 --> 03:18:13,020 I can't I can empathize with them. Because I'm just kidding. 3018 03:18:13,020 --> 03:18:16,710 only speak from my perspective. It goes beyond empathy, is it? 3019 03:18:17,070 --> 03:18:20,310 It's what's out there is is incredible. 3020 03:18:21,960 --> 03:18:26,520 Yes, going on. This is a complete tinderbox instead of 3021 03:18:26,520 --> 03:18:30,510 talking to me about who incited it, who incited it said Why were 3022 03:18:30,510 --> 03:18:33,120 these people so excitable? That's the question that's not 3023 03:18:33,120 --> 03:18:34,650 being asked or discussed. 3024 03:18:35,670 --> 03:18:38,640 Yeah. And then then you get brought in if you do have a job, 3025 03:18:38,640 --> 03:18:40,890 you're trying to maintain your job. And it starts with the 3026 03:18:40,890 --> 03:18:42,510 white men first. I mean this 3027 03:18:44,040 --> 03:18:47,280 in this aspect of her your white man, your white man, and then 3028 03:18:47,280 --> 03:18:49,950 it's just gonna spread to or you're a man, you're a man, or 3029 03:18:49,950 --> 03:18:54,060 you're a heterosexual man. I see where this is going. Yeah, the 3030 03:18:54,060 --> 03:18:57,900 re education is coming. But when a culture doesn't work for 3031 03:18:57,930 --> 03:19:03,840 people anymore, it dissolves. And this is what Dr. Amos Wilson 3032 03:19:03,840 --> 03:19:08,730 says In this next clip, clip 37 looking at the question, 3033 03:19:10,410 --> 03:19:14,640 what is culture hoarding and hunt said from life from their 3034 03:19:14,640 --> 03:19:18,120 life experiences, a group develops a set of rules and 3035 03:19:18,120 --> 03:19:19,920 procedures for meeting their needs. 3036 03:19:21,030 --> 03:19:24,810 The set of rules and procedures together with a supporting set 3037 03:19:25,080 --> 03:19:29,430 of ideas and values is called a culture to a great extent your 3038 03:19:29,430 --> 03:19:37,140 co culture involves a set of rules, and a procedure for 3039 03:19:37,140 --> 03:19:40,050 meeting needs. And this is thing we have to keep in mind. You 3040 03:19:40,050 --> 03:19:43,890 don't have a code to just have a culture. And you don't claim a 3041 03:19:43,890 --> 03:19:47,460 culture. Just because it's a culture just because it's 3042 03:19:47,460 --> 03:19:48,090 African. 3043 03:19:49,380 --> 03:19:55,290 The ultimate thing that culture must do is problems. That's why 3044 03:19:55,290 --> 03:19:59,130 people evolve a culture. That's where culture comes into 3045 03:19:59,130 --> 03:19:59,970 existence. 3046 03:20:01,140 --> 03:20:08,340 As a way of solving problems and meeting needs, that's why, at a 3047 03:20:08,340 --> 03:20:09,360 certain point, 3048 03:20:10,440 --> 03:20:14,280 when a culture no longer meets the need of a people 3049 03:20:15,420 --> 03:20:18,990 or solves the problem confronting a people, that 3050 03:20:18,990 --> 03:20:21,540 culture must be transformed. 3051 03:20:23,610 --> 03:20:24,090 That's right. 3052 03:20:25,470 --> 03:20:27,720 And what will it be transformed into? 3053 03:20:29,370 --> 03:20:34,230 socialism, communism, some other isms? Because you're looking at 3054 03:20:34,230 --> 03:20:38,640 well, capitalism network. What do you want me be insane? I 3055 03:20:38,640 --> 03:20:40,890 mean, that's that's the thing about keep trying the same thing 3056 03:20:40,890 --> 03:20:45,210 and get results. So the kids is like, Dad, oh, no, look, look at 3057 03:20:45,210 --> 03:20:49,290 dad. He's out of work. You know, I mean, like, he can't even 3058 03:20:49,290 --> 03:20:52,680 provide for us. You think I'm buying the capital? I'm not 3059 03:20:52,680 --> 03:20:55,950 saying for me. I mean, because like I said, I mean, I see the 3060 03:20:55,950 --> 03:20:58,770 bigger picture of Marxism and capitalism. Now it's even worse 3061 03:20:58,770 --> 03:20:59,190 than that. 3062 03:21:00,360 --> 03:21:05,430 What I get from from the Zoomers, is, yeah, you you may 3063 03:21:05,430 --> 03:21:08,850 be well off, but look at us. It sucks for us. So that's your 3064 03:21:08,850 --> 03:21:10,200 fault. So it has to change. 3065 03:21:12,420 --> 03:21:15,630 That's what it is. Yep, that's exactly what it is. And a pit 3066 03:21:15,630 --> 03:21:17,730 pit pit is generational. 3067 03:21:19,500 --> 03:21:23,760 generational war, very easy to do. But we're gonna get to that 3068 03:21:23,760 --> 03:21:28,020 at a later date. But while we're talking about the, the gender 3069 03:21:28,020 --> 03:21:31,860 war, because what you have to do is pit the man against the 3070 03:21:31,860 --> 03:21:36,000 woman. And right now there's this war going on. And I've been 3071 03:21:36,000 --> 03:21:39,630 reporting on this gender war for a while now. Especially I can 3072 03:21:39,630 --> 03:21:43,710 only speak in the black community that black women 3073 03:21:43,740 --> 03:21:48,510 supposedly don't think black men have qualities to be husbands 3074 03:21:48,510 --> 03:21:51,840 and black men don't think black women have the quality to be 3075 03:21:51,840 --> 03:21:54,840 wives. And it ends up and what 3076 03:21:56,340 --> 03:21:59,130 you know, that's not helpful for our for our 3077 03:22:00,240 --> 03:22:08,250 continuing on on the lineage. Um, but it's so. So I've 3078 03:22:09,330 --> 03:22:13,140 got avadi Bob Bochum. He's gonna speak on 3079 03:22:14,190 --> 03:22:18,480 Cultural Marxism and he's a pastor, by the way, enter the 3080 03:22:18,480 --> 03:22:19,470 cultural Marxist 3081 03:22:23,070 --> 03:22:28,710 with a couple of goals, number one, to explain why the 3082 03:22:28,710 --> 03:22:32,790 revolution didn't occur, as Marx thought it would Marx died in 3083 03:22:33,210 --> 03:22:38,520 1888, by the way, so now, we get into the late 1800s, early 3084 03:22:38,520 --> 03:22:42,120 1900s. We get into World War One. 3085 03:22:44,520 --> 03:22:47,550 And there are a couple of players that you need to know if 3086 03:22:47,550 --> 03:22:51,990 you're going to understand Cultural Marxism. One is a guy 3087 03:22:51,990 --> 03:22:56,220 by the name of Antonio Gramsci, Gramsci was an Italian 3088 03:22:57,630 --> 03:22:58,290 Marxist. 3089 03:23:00,510 --> 03:23:02,670 Another one is not an individual, but a group of 3090 03:23:02,670 --> 03:23:05,730 individuals known as the Frankfurt School. 3091 03:23:08,730 --> 03:23:14,400 Two ideas, one Gramsci his idea of cultural hegemony, 3092 03:23:15,660 --> 03:23:20,070 listen to the way one sociologist puts it, cultural 3093 03:23:20,070 --> 03:23:24,960 hegemony refers to domination or rule maintained through 3094 03:23:24,960 --> 03:23:29,610 ideological or cultural means. It is usually achieved through 3095 03:23:29,610 --> 03:23:34,830 social institutions, which allow those in power to strongly 3096 03:23:34,830 --> 03:23:39,810 influence the values, norms, ideas, expectations, worldview, 3097 03:23:39,930 --> 03:23:44,160 and behavior of the rest of society, cultural hegemony. 3098 03:23:45,870 --> 03:23:47,610 That's the power of 3099 03:23:48,870 --> 03:23:53,130 the Frankfurt School. We talked about that, didn't we? And who, 3100 03:23:53,160 --> 03:23:55,710 who's holds the power in today's society? 3101 03:23:58,140 --> 03:23:59,490 The women? Yeah. 3102 03:24:01,290 --> 03:24:05,100 Because they can decide, uh, yeah, I don't want you here 3103 03:24:05,100 --> 03:24:07,950 anymore. I don't want to be with you anymore. 3104 03:24:09,810 --> 03:24:14,790 And you have these television shows. And when I say television 3105 03:24:14,790 --> 03:24:18,030 show, the morning shows pumping all these crazy ideas. 3106 03:24:19,470 --> 03:24:22,770 That's counter. And when I say crazy, I mean, there's counter 3107 03:24:22,770 --> 03:24:26,970 to what we've done for 1000 years as men and women in our 3108 03:24:26,970 --> 03:24:28,080 relationship with each other. 3109 03:24:29,490 --> 03:24:33,120 It's this new school of thinking, and the result of it 3110 03:24:33,120 --> 03:24:37,770 is that is hitting mainstream, and it's called a strike between 3111 03:24:37,770 --> 03:24:41,850 the male and female, it's not black anymore. And I have this 3112 03:24:41,850 --> 03:24:46,320 couple of clips of feminists, feminists talking to men's 3113 03:24:46,320 --> 03:24:50,040 rights groups. And as we just run through these two next two 3114 03:24:50,040 --> 03:24:52,680 clips, and you can chime in how you how you want to chime in, 3115 03:24:52,830 --> 03:24:55,560 but I just want to let you know what's happening on the ground 3116 03:24:55,560 --> 03:24:59,580 right now. What do you need a whole men's rights activism 3117 03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:04,440 movement for I'm sincerely confused? Well, I mean, I will 3118 03:25:04,440 --> 03:25:07,680 advocate for positive masculinity and what men should 3119 03:25:07,680 --> 03:25:10,770 represent and healthy outlets for men like I still think the 3120 03:25:10,770 --> 03:25:13,560 Boy Scouts should be exclusively the Boy Scouts. For example, one 3121 03:25:13,560 --> 03:25:16,290 of those things where I would like to think that we could get 3122 03:25:16,290 --> 03:25:19,500 some common ground is when it comes to the clear biases that 3123 03:25:19,500 --> 03:25:21,690 are in the court system, especially in the marriage and 3124 03:25:21,690 --> 03:25:22,860 family court system. 3125 03:25:23,970 --> 03:25:27,450 And, and right, there is what I would advocate for when it comes 3126 03:25:27,450 --> 03:25:31,140 to men's rights. The things that stand Valley like that I'm 3127 03:25:31,140 --> 03:25:33,870 hearing from y'all that are like valid to me, come from a place 3128 03:25:33,870 --> 03:25:37,680 of like, I am treated like unfairly by the system, versus a 3129 03:25:37,680 --> 03:25:40,650 lot of things women are saying it's also America and the system 3130 03:25:40,650 --> 03:25:43,830 as well. But a lot of it is like harm from men. Okay, I think 3131 03:25:43,830 --> 03:25:46,050 some of the things that you guys are touching on such as the 3132 03:25:46,050 --> 03:25:51,390 court system and gender roles are a subject of patriarchy, and 3133 03:25:51,540 --> 03:25:54,510 that is part of what women are trying to dismantle. Is those 3134 03:25:54,540 --> 03:25:57,810 traditional gender. Are there any feminist organizations that 3135 03:25:57,810 --> 03:26:01,200 have done anything, for example, to challenge bias against men 3136 03:26:01,200 --> 03:26:03,990 and fathers? Yeah, of course. Absolutely. Can you please give 3137 03:26:03,990 --> 03:26:06,600 me like a list of feminist advocacy organizations that have 3138 03:26:06,600 --> 03:26:08,580 engaged in any meaningful advocacy to address those 3139 03:26:08,580 --> 03:26:11,670 issues? Because there are actually none. Okay, I know that 3140 03:26:11,670 --> 03:26:14,220 you came with your little research, or whatever I do with 3141 03:26:14,220 --> 03:26:16,830 a list of like feminist organizations, but I know 3142 03:26:16,830 --> 03:26:19,830 actively that there are women's organizations that are trying to 3143 03:26:19,830 --> 03:26:24,390 dismantle those interests. Just one name just one again, come 3144 03:26:24,390 --> 03:26:27,210 with a list. There are no such organization. 3145 03:26:29,850 --> 03:26:33,360 I mean, just how she'd communicating to him my dude. 3146 03:26:34,380 --> 03:26:38,160 Well, that's where you throw facts out the window. It's like 3147 03:26:38,160 --> 03:26:44,370 you have to kowtow to my, my feelings. facts don't mean 3148 03:26:44,370 --> 03:26:48,450 anything all scientific method and your linear racist, 3149 03:26:49,200 --> 03:26:52,680 irrationally. No, no, no, no, no, you're not you're not 3150 03:26:52,680 --> 03:26:56,850 addressing my feelings. Which to me, my feelings, Trump your, 3151 03:26:58,620 --> 03:27:00,090 your your facts. 3152 03:27:01,260 --> 03:27:05,280 And what this does is it makes communication impossible. 3153 03:27:06,210 --> 03:27:08,520 Between the two sides, this is what we learned with the new 3154 03:27:08,520 --> 03:27:14,520 york times with the the veteran reporter who had to resign was 3155 03:27:14,520 --> 03:27:19,530 because of his use of the N word. And even though he was 3156 03:27:19,530 --> 03:27:25,920 doing it in a, in the context of journalism, the written word. 3157 03:27:27,510 --> 03:27:31,410 It the statement literally was that it doesn't matter what your 3158 03:27:31,410 --> 03:27:35,490 intent was, it is how it made the recipient feel, which is 3159 03:27:35,490 --> 03:27:40,560 just the end. That's the family court system is based off of 3160 03:27:40,560 --> 03:27:44,550 feelings. Yep. It's just not realized right now. 3161 03:27:45,660 --> 03:27:49,230 Your wife or my wife could pick up the phone and like, you know 3162 03:27:49,230 --> 03:27:53,550 what? No, you're gassy. I do actually get him out of here. 3163 03:27:53,640 --> 03:27:54,000 Yeah. 3164 03:27:55,170 --> 03:27:59,700 True. So what? So just think of living under those conditions? 3165 03:27:59,760 --> 03:28:02,340 Yeah. And now what the young men are saying, Well, you know, 3166 03:28:02,340 --> 03:28:02,760 what? 3167 03:28:04,410 --> 03:28:06,450 Screw marriage. Yeah, I'm out. 3168 03:28:07,470 --> 03:28:09,780 If that's the condition, screw it. Yeah. 3169 03:28:12,210 --> 03:28:15,600 And if your goal is the population, which it is, and 3170 03:28:15,600 --> 03:28:17,220 that's your, you're on the way, 3171 03:28:18,330 --> 03:28:21,120 you're heading down the right road, and that's what this list 3172 03:28:21,120 --> 03:28:24,570 is all about. It's really about the population always. That's 3173 03:28:24,570 --> 03:28:27,210 always what they want at the end, whether it's climate 3174 03:28:27,210 --> 03:28:29,790 change, or any it's always less people. 3175 03:28:32,010 --> 03:28:32,460 Well, 3176 03:28:34,260 --> 03:28:37,650 yeah, what they call the useless eaters. Yeah, it's good. Prince 3177 03:28:37,650 --> 03:28:41,430 Charles calls the useless eaters to be specific. Yeah, that's 3178 03:28:41,430 --> 03:28:43,530 what they look at. It's just like, oh, what do you contribute 3179 03:28:43,530 --> 03:28:44,640 to society? I'm gonna 3180 03:28:45,720 --> 03:28:49,440 miss the second clip of this is men's rights versus feminism. 3181 03:28:52,260 --> 03:28:53,070 rights. 3182 03:28:54,330 --> 03:28:56,490 I think there has been significant progress over the 3183 03:28:56,490 --> 03:29:00,750 last decade or so especially in the legal field. But I think 3184 03:29:00,750 --> 03:29:03,060 there are still significant disparities that need to be 3185 03:29:03,060 --> 03:29:07,800 addressed, such as poor health conditions, bias against men in 3186 03:29:07,800 --> 03:29:11,100 the criminal justice system bias against men in family courts, 3187 03:29:11,310 --> 03:29:14,910 and bias against men in the educational system, especially 3188 03:29:14,910 --> 03:29:15,720 in colleges. 3189 03:29:16,950 --> 03:29:19,920 Men and women should be our eyes. 3190 03:29:21,330 --> 03:29:25,380 It strikes me like the way you phrase this, you almost want men 3191 03:29:25,380 --> 03:29:28,980 to say certain things that you want them to say, as opposed to 3192 03:29:28,980 --> 03:29:31,920 maybe actually listening that what they're saying, but 3193 03:29:31,920 --> 03:29:35,010 certainly, just kind of like men being analyzed mental 3194 03:29:35,040 --> 03:29:38,550 intelligent men, etc. I'm completely okay with that. But 3195 03:29:38,550 --> 03:29:42,030 I'm not going to repeat like feminists talking points to 3196 03:29:42,030 --> 03:29:44,880 other men. We all believe different things. We may be 3197 03:29:44,880 --> 03:29:47,550 under the label of men's rights activists, but for example, I'm 3198 03:29:47,550 --> 03:29:50,010 probably the most traditionalist person here. I think we should 3199 03:29:50,010 --> 03:29:53,730 be allies. But maybe us being allies in a patriarchy wouldn't 3200 03:29:53,730 --> 03:29:56,880 be so bad. You know, us going back to the past wouldn't be so 3201 03:29:56,880 --> 03:29:59,370 bad. It would probably be a lot happier if we were you know, 3202 03:29:59,370 --> 03:29:59,970 getting there. 3203 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:03,780 Saying married and having kids going to church and all that. 3204 03:30:05,040 --> 03:30:10,770 But heads were exploding after that, of course. So, this is 3205 03:30:10,770 --> 03:30:11,460 where we get to 3206 03:30:13,230 --> 03:30:18,270 material. Here we go. Here we go. All right, buckled in. Yes. 3207 03:30:18,690 --> 03:30:23,130 So everybody's cry for justice. Right. Justice We want justice. 3208 03:30:23,130 --> 03:30:25,200 You know, everything is you know, it's not just 3209 03:30:26,910 --> 03:30:30,120 you know, Justice in the court is held up by Justice. Yes. 3210 03:30:30,150 --> 03:30:34,950 Well, Justice doesn't mean to some people what you think it 3211 03:30:34,950 --> 03:30:38,880 means you're thinking our fair trial and there was the 14th 3212 03:30:38,880 --> 03:30:42,600 amendment? I think there's 14 um, you know, your right to a 3213 03:30:42,600 --> 03:30:46,710 fair trial and those things and not not No, no, no, no. Dang the 3214 03:30:46,710 --> 03:30:49,230 justice that the people at the top are talking about? 3215 03:30:50,280 --> 03:30:54,300 What justice really means. Welcome to chasing Gods where we 3216 03:30:54,300 --> 03:30:58,560 find meaning with symbols and myths. To judge with justice is 3217 03:30:58,560 --> 03:31:02,400 believed to be one of the top virtues by philosophers, writers 3218 03:31:02,400 --> 03:31:05,490 and artists of the ancient world. From ancient Egypt to 3219 03:31:05,490 --> 03:31:09,000 Ancient Greece and Rome, Justice has been personified by a 3220 03:31:09,000 --> 03:31:12,840 goddess who not only belongs to the highest ranks of gods, but 3221 03:31:12,840 --> 03:31:16,440 who symbolism is even sought by them. You could imagine what 3222 03:31:16,440 --> 03:31:20,250 justice must have meant to men. This goddess I'm talking about 3223 03:31:20,250 --> 03:31:24,540 is Lady Justice. You've probably seen her but may not have paid 3224 03:31:24,540 --> 03:31:28,920 too much attention. She could be a statue, an emblem or figurine 3225 03:31:28,920 --> 03:31:32,670 to represent justice in the legal system worldwide. She 3226 03:31:32,670 --> 03:31:36,570 holds a scale a sword and at times she wears a blindfold. 3227 03:31:37,350 --> 03:31:37,980 Yes. 3228 03:31:39,180 --> 03:31:44,100 Lady the mother goddess aka the mother goddess. When they say no 3229 03:31:44,100 --> 03:31:48,540 justice no peace that's what they're talking about. No woman 3230 03:31:49,710 --> 03:31:54,690 in charge What? Yep, no piece. And guess what everybody got 3231 03:31:54,720 --> 03:31:57,930 their all out of shape. When you had the the bathroom it put out 3232 03:31:57,930 --> 03:32:01,950 the front nice courthouse, state houses. But you got the mother 3233 03:32:01,950 --> 03:32:06,420 goddess right in every courthouse? Yeah. Not in 3234 03:32:06,420 --> 03:32:10,890 America. Not only in America. All over the world. Yeah. 3235 03:32:12,090 --> 03:32:15,240 So now we got to go back to clergymen and we might need a 3236 03:32:15,240 --> 03:32:18,510 trigger warning for this custom pastor Gino Jimmy Jimmy. 3237 03:32:21,900 --> 03:32:24,360 Q in one show mo that's pretty crazy. 3238 03:32:27,420 --> 03:32:27,870 Warning 3239 03:32:29,400 --> 03:32:29,880 Warning 3240 03:32:33,180 --> 03:32:34,020 trigger warning 3241 03:32:42,300 --> 03:32:46,830 for women for women and become servant and become servants for 3242 03:32:46,830 --> 03:32:52,140 their say for their men. They also have counsel with men who 3243 03:32:52,140 --> 03:32:55,140 knew they was being used and told me it was being used and 3244 03:32:55,140 --> 03:32:55,560 told me 3245 03:32:56,700 --> 03:32:57,240 a man 3246 03:32:58,590 --> 03:33:02,610 could help themselves That's right. By this also 3247 03:33:04,050 --> 03:33:05,670 know you're being us. 3248 03:33:08,520 --> 03:33:09,720 I mean, he won't tell you. 3249 03:33:10,770 --> 03:33:15,600 That's right. Especially when she tells you Yeah, I'm using a 3250 03:33:15,600 --> 03:33:16,020 man 3251 03:33:17,370 --> 03:33:21,390 and you don't care. Why should she care? That's right 3252 03:33:24,030 --> 03:33:27,780 now in first estrus chapter four and verse 22. Isn't at all this 3253 03:33:27,780 --> 03:33:31,440 scripture all this scripture? That's right. This is the 3254 03:33:31,440 --> 03:33:33,060 condition that's right. 3255 03:33:34,800 --> 03:33:38,580 By this also, he must know some women around us a memory cost 3256 03:33:38,580 --> 03:33:42,330 their mama did it. Yeah. And they had a good teacher. That's 3257 03:33:42,330 --> 03:33:42,690 right. 3258 03:33:44,730 --> 03:33:46,170 Influenced by their friends 3259 03:33:48,510 --> 03:33:51,930 around us Americans uninfluenced by nobody, they just want to do 3260 03:33:51,930 --> 03:33:52,800 it. Just want to do it. 3261 03:33:54,150 --> 03:33:57,330 The atmosphere that came out of a sister do it. The other sister 3262 03:33:57,330 --> 03:33:58,890 do it. The other sister do it. 3263 03:34:00,240 --> 03:34:05,040 The mama dog the the grandma my great grandma, my great, great, 3264 03:34:05,040 --> 03:34:05,640 great grandma. 3265 03:34:07,080 --> 03:34:09,390 It's a family affair is a family tradition. 3266 03:34:11,130 --> 03:34:13,860 We're do Am I right 3267 03:34:17,190 --> 03:34:22,620 now, but this this, these problems that manifest itself in 3268 03:34:22,620 --> 03:34:27,660 the world like in the flesh. This is this is some high level 3269 03:34:27,660 --> 03:34:30,690 spiritual stuff that's going on. And that's why you heard Black 3270 03:34:30,690 --> 03:34:33,780 Lives Matter doing what they did. Like I said, 3271 03:34:35,280 --> 03:34:39,720 no justice, no peace. They talk about just because why would you 3272 03:34:39,720 --> 03:34:42,690 believe in a court system that you said it that a new set of 3273 03:34:42,690 --> 03:34:48,330 fire? Yeah. And objectifies you and controls you? 3274 03:34:49,560 --> 03:34:49,980 What? 3275 03:34:51,330 --> 03:34:54,180 No, no, no, that's not the gist they're talking about. And this 3276 03:34:54,180 --> 03:34:57,480 goes all the way back to Adam and his first wife, not you. 3277 03:34:57,810 --> 03:34:59,970 This goes back to Adam, his first wife. Bye 3278 03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:04,620 You aware of Adam in his first wife, Adam, Adam and his first 3279 03:35:04,620 --> 03:35:09,210 wife? Yes. You know his first wife was? I guess not. 3280 03:35:10,800 --> 03:35:14,670 You would think he right that's would be the logical answer, but 3281 03:35:14,820 --> 03:35:17,040 apparently not 45 3282 03:35:18,060 --> 03:35:22,050 so Lilith is one of the most popular mythological women of 3283 03:35:22,050 --> 03:35:25,980 the last couple 100 years we've seen her as a vampire demoness, 3284 03:35:26,280 --> 03:35:31,140 a seductress and even Satan's concubine. But in recent years 3285 03:35:31,170 --> 03:35:35,370 Lilith has taken on a new role. She's become the dark feminist, 3286 03:35:35,820 --> 03:35:41,910 the embodied, powerful, liberated, unapologetic women 3287 03:35:42,150 --> 03:35:47,340 that we have come to revere. Truly, Lilith is a complicated 3288 03:35:47,340 --> 03:35:51,150 layered figure. The most popular story of Lilith comes from a 3289 03:35:51,150 --> 03:35:56,100 medieval rabbinical text called the alphabet of Ben serraj. In 3290 03:35:56,100 --> 03:36:01,050 this story, Lilith is the first wife of Adam, born at the same 3291 03:36:01,050 --> 03:36:06,270 time and have the same earth but quickly, they realize this match 3292 03:36:06,300 --> 03:36:10,950 is not meant to be the first thing on Adams mind is to lay 3293 03:36:10,950 --> 03:36:11,670 with Lilith. 3294 03:36:12,840 --> 03:36:17,820 Very literally, and he insists that he be the one on top, but 3295 03:36:17,820 --> 03:36:21,390 Lilith will not have it. And she insists that if they do the 3296 03:36:21,390 --> 03:36:24,360 deed, she will not lie below because she will not be 3297 03:36:24,360 --> 03:36:29,010 subordinate to him. She will not be of lesser status, Luna says 3298 03:36:29,100 --> 03:36:32,940 we are equal to each other and as much as we were both created 3299 03:36:32,940 --> 03:36:37,050 from the earth is this where little affair comes from? 3300 03:36:37,410 --> 03:36:40,770 exactly where it comes from it. This is some Beyonce level stuff 3301 03:36:40,770 --> 03:36:44,580 too. By the way, this whole via Beyonce is a representation of 3302 03:36:44,580 --> 03:36:48,180 the mother goddess. All the pop stars are representations of the 3303 03:36:48,180 --> 03:36:52,650 mother goddess, aka Lady Justice, aka Yes. 3304 03:36:54,690 --> 03:36:55,890 Hi, is this from Egypt? 3305 03:37:00,180 --> 03:37:02,940 Oh, boy. Wow. Okay. 3306 03:37:04,260 --> 03:37:08,280 So we've got the temples. We've got the history, Black History 3307 03:37:08,280 --> 03:37:11,610 Museum, American African American History Museum upside 3308 03:37:11,610 --> 03:37:12,120 down. 3309 03:37:13,830 --> 03:37:18,210 t gyptian. thing. Right. We've got Lilith 3310 03:37:20,280 --> 03:37:24,420 got Michelle Obama over brock obama. Yeah. Wow role that she 3311 03:37:24,420 --> 03:37:29,100 plays. This is now how do you come? There's gotta be some we 3312 03:37:29,100 --> 03:37:33,630 need some some hardcore magic of our own to fight back. 3313 03:37:35,970 --> 03:37:39,990 logic or reason? That's why they want to dismantle it, right. 3314 03:37:42,570 --> 03:37:46,140 What is that man it was that man is controlled by his emotions is 3315 03:37:46,170 --> 03:37:49,590 like a boat and it's in a raging sea or something like that. I 3316 03:37:49,590 --> 03:37:52,620 think this statement is something similar to that. But 3317 03:37:52,620 --> 03:37:54,600 basically, when you're controlled by your emotions, a 3318 03:37:54,600 --> 03:37:57,690 man he's all over the place. Yeah, yeah. And to be honest 3319 03:37:57,690 --> 03:38:02,370 with you, women don't like that. When a man is uncertain Oh, no, 3320 03:38:02,370 --> 03:38:03,510 no, no, not at all. 3321 03:38:05,130 --> 03:38:08,820 Wow. Well, this is why they want to. That's why they want to 3322 03:38:08,820 --> 03:38:13,560 restore the masculine principle. That's the whole point. Well, 3323 03:38:14,250 --> 03:38:16,350 this is Luckily, 3324 03:38:17,670 --> 03:38:23,070 men of all cultures and colors can join hands in this. Yeah. 3325 03:38:23,070 --> 03:38:25,440 And it's not a religious thing. What I'm saying is, 3326 03:38:26,820 --> 03:38:29,490 because when you operate in logic and reason, then you can 3327 03:38:29,490 --> 03:38:33,030 understand the outcomes of what happened. It's like, okay, I 3328 03:38:33,030 --> 03:38:36,000 expected this to happen. The scientific method. No, I can 3329 03:38:36,060 --> 03:38:39,150 help that happened. Now. Let me repeat, you know, then you have 3330 03:38:39,180 --> 03:38:42,240 you have improvements, that's technology. 3331 03:38:44,280 --> 03:38:47,880 All of this stuff they call technology now in science, going 3332 03:38:47,880 --> 03:38:51,240 back to where we started in the last show, science is the new 3333 03:38:51,240 --> 03:38:54,750 religion, but it's not science, right? Are you going to get rid 3334 03:38:54,750 --> 03:38:57,840 of scientific method have science to what science are you 3335 03:38:57,840 --> 03:39:00,810 talking about? some magical stuff. 3336 03:39:03,060 --> 03:39:07,290 No CBOE effect. All of this stuff ties in together it does. 3337 03:39:09,240 --> 03:39:11,970 Unless you go and wrap up with 46 you get them give me 3338 03:39:11,970 --> 03:39:15,840 nightmares. Man, after a while of arguing. Adam complains to 3339 03:39:15,840 --> 03:39:20,070 God that the woman who made for him is malfunctioning, and God 3340 03:39:20,070 --> 03:39:23,220 tells Lilith she has lost her husband or else she's going to 3341 03:39:23,220 --> 03:39:26,310 be exiled from Eden and that would be pretty miserable. But 3342 03:39:26,310 --> 03:39:30,630 Willis doesn't care. And in fact, she flies away screeching 3343 03:39:30,630 --> 03:39:35,040 the unknowable name of God that somehow she knows and after a 3344 03:39:35,040 --> 03:39:39,450 while it's kind of lonely in Eden and God tries to get love 3345 03:39:39,450 --> 03:39:42,960 back saying that, you know, if you if you don't come back, I'm 3346 03:39:42,960 --> 03:39:46,680 gonna have to force you to be a demon as soon as devours our own 3347 03:39:46,680 --> 03:39:49,350 children or charity. But well, it says 3348 03:39:50,370 --> 03:39:55,800 Serbia because to her that fate is better than one of eternal 3349 03:39:55,800 --> 03:39:59,430 subordination. Now, to the modern mind. This is pretty 3350 03:39:59,430 --> 03:39:59,970 frigging 3351 03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:03,390 I'm in St. But there's something keep in mind about this text. 3352 03:40:03,450 --> 03:40:07,980 This was not at all meant to be a feminist revision of biblical 3353 03:40:07,980 --> 03:40:12,360 mythology. It was most likely written as satire, possibly even 3354 03:40:12,360 --> 03:40:17,820 a commentary on the horribleness of women, as if saying, leave 3355 03:40:17,820 --> 03:40:19,020 out evil Bob. 3356 03:40:20,070 --> 03:40:22,830 But though most of us have come to know her through this 3357 03:40:22,830 --> 03:40:26,910 medieval texts, or this medieval story, Lilith actually has 3358 03:40:27,000 --> 03:40:32,220 ancient roots born in Babylon and sumeria. The story of love 3359 03:40:32,220 --> 03:40:37,290 is first seen 5000 years ago in the Epic of Gilgamesh, and even 3360 03:40:37,290 --> 03:40:41,190 hinted at in text before that, originally, she was a handmaid 3361 03:40:41,220 --> 03:40:45,660 of the goddess and Nana, the great sky Queen, and Lilith was 3362 03:40:45,660 --> 03:40:50,100 somebody who appeared extremely sexually independent, extremely 3363 03:40:50,100 --> 03:40:54,960 grounded in her body and her own autonomous power. Why just 3364 03:40:54,960 --> 03:40:56,820 described every modern woman there? 3365 03:40:57,840 --> 03:41:01,920 Yeah, I didn't say I didn't say that. I did. But I'm just saying 3366 03:41:02,160 --> 03:41:07,560 that now you understand. Now you understand and she's the console 3367 03:41:07,590 --> 03:41:13,260 of who? The sky The Great Nana Ananya which is who are 3368 03:41:13,260 --> 03:41:15,240 representation of Lady Justice? 3369 03:41:19,980 --> 03:41:25,410 Which, of course, what? Sorel sisters, what do they operate 3370 03:41:25,410 --> 03:41:27,120 in? Just justice? 3371 03:41:28,560 --> 03:41:33,330 No, justice, no peace. Okay, that's gonna haunt me for a 3372 03:41:33,330 --> 03:41:33,960 little bit. 3373 03:41:36,330 --> 03:41:39,120 Oh, man. But you know what we need? 3374 03:41:40,170 --> 03:41:44,580 We can't say this. We need allies that are women 3375 03:41:45,840 --> 03:41:48,630 to call out this behavior? Because this is not a non 3376 03:41:48,630 --> 03:41:51,990 starter? Well, I think we can't i can't think we can say because 3377 03:41:51,990 --> 03:41:55,170 that's, that's clearly part of what's necessary. But there's 3378 03:41:55,170 --> 03:41:58,770 also I think a large group of women are probably also under 3379 03:41:58,770 --> 03:41:59,400 attack who, 3380 03:42:00,450 --> 03:42:04,440 believe it or not, may be more conservative often. 3381 03:42:05,880 --> 03:42:09,570 Of course, I said the worst thing outside, and I always joke 3382 03:42:09,810 --> 03:42:13,740 with people I talk to, and I say the second worst thing you can 3383 03:42:13,740 --> 03:42:16,440 be other than a black man in America is a housewife. 3384 03:42:17,610 --> 03:42:21,300 Yeah, house. Oh, they're so to me. They're so 3385 03:42:22,770 --> 03:42:23,370 look. 3386 03:42:24,720 --> 03:42:27,420 That's the hardest friggin job in the world. I'm telling you. 3387 03:42:27,780 --> 03:42:30,990 Now we come 360 you're talking about the keys and being at 3388 03:42:30,990 --> 03:42:34,170 home? Oh, yeah. Right. 3389 03:42:35,670 --> 03:42:40,980 No, one is running the house. Well, yeah, that is a that is a 3390 03:42:40,980 --> 03:42:44,100 real? That's a real job. Yeah, you're talking about logistics 3391 03:42:44,100 --> 03:42:48,960 and education in medical, healthcare and culinary arts and 3392 03:42:49,200 --> 03:42:54,450 in science and economics by coupon in knowing what's coming 3393 03:42:54,450 --> 03:42:55,890 in and going out. Yeah. 3394 03:42:59,010 --> 03:42:59,970 But they demean him 3395 03:43:01,620 --> 03:43:06,060 Wow, I'm a little speechless mo because I'm just like, wow, I 3396 03:43:06,060 --> 03:43:09,450 gotta think about this. And and again, I appreciate you because 3397 03:43:09,960 --> 03:43:15,300 I'm always thinking what is what is all this information going to 3398 03:43:15,300 --> 03:43:19,950 get me to at the end of the show? And that was wrapping it 3399 03:43:19,950 --> 03:43:24,000 up with the little thing really hammers at home? And 3400 03:43:25,200 --> 03:43:26,550 I can't say yeah, 3401 03:43:27,570 --> 03:43:31,620 holy crap. And I also always immediately understand the last 3402 03:43:31,620 --> 03:43:34,950 song of the show whenever we get to this part. Like I know I know 3403 03:43:34,950 --> 03:43:36,540 why he chose this one. Okay. 3404 03:43:38,670 --> 03:43:42,900 Moe, thank you so much, man. This was yet again a fantastic 3405 03:43:42,900 --> 03:43:47,520 journey. I'm not as as giddy and happy at the end of this one I'm 3406 03:43:47,520 --> 03:43:50,880 more like holy crap, I got some stuff to think about. So I 3407 03:43:50,880 --> 03:43:54,690 appreciate that too. If you know the planet attack you can 3408 03:43:54,690 --> 03:43:58,320 counter it this is correct. That's what the positive No, no, 3409 03:43:58,350 --> 03:44:03,150 no. Everybody out there. Don't be defeated. Because if you know 3410 03:44:03,150 --> 03:44:07,530 the plan of attack, then is you can you can defeat it. You can 3411 03:44:07,530 --> 03:44:11,910 come up with it. You know it really it is just prove prove 3412 03:44:11,910 --> 03:44:13,470 prove what you show your work. 3413 03:44:14,700 --> 03:44:17,400 That's what you need to tell people show you work. What have 3414 03:44:17,400 --> 03:44:20,340 you built with this method? What have y'all built? 3415 03:44:21,540 --> 03:44:25,710 And and but now from this day forward, I will always be 3416 03:44:26,160 --> 03:44:28,920 slightly triggered, but in a good way, because it will alert 3417 03:44:28,920 --> 03:44:31,410 me when I hear no justice. 3418 03:44:32,820 --> 03:44:36,840 No peace, no peace. I'll know exactly what's going on. And as 3419 03:44:36,840 --> 03:44:42,120 I always say, pay attention to everything. And the truth reveal 3420 03:44:42,120 --> 03:44:46,740 itself. It always comes true. You are so right, moe, thank you 3421 03:44:46,740 --> 03:44:47,790 so much, my friend. 3422 03:44:48,960 --> 03:44:51,660 I appreciate it. Adam. See you next time. You got it. And we'll 3423 03:44:51,660 --> 03:44:54,720 be talking to y'all real soon. Remember to support us at mo 3424 03:44:54,720 --> 03:44:59,160 facts calm. And we'll see you next time for more facts with 3425 03:44:59,160 --> 03:44:59,790 Adam Curry. 3426 03:45:06,180 --> 03:45:07,530 You better watch it's 3427 03:45:12,240 --> 03:45:14,220 gonna break your heart It 3428 03:45:16,470 --> 03:45:17,130 is true. 3429 03:45:20,970 --> 03:45:22,110 It's not hard to be 3430 03:45:24,660 --> 03:45:26,070 snuck into a farm.