1 00:00:08,700 --> 00:00:13,110 more facts with Adam Curry for December 7 2020. This is episode 2 00:00:13,110 --> 00:00:18,840 number 55. I'm Adam Curry in Austin, Texas. from somewhere in 3 00:00:19,380 --> 00:00:23,820 Northern Virginia. fresh new member of the 40 Club Ladies and 4 00:00:23,820 --> 00:00:26,160 gentlemen, give it up for Mo. 5 00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:38,490 Mo man 40 a baby. 6 00:00:40,470 --> 00:00:41,250 Can't believe 7 00:00:42,810 --> 00:00:47,190 you made it. You made it. I did make it. And as I teach her on 8 00:00:47,190 --> 00:00:50,760 the hill, I'm not over yet. I'm teetering for this year, and 9 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,860 then I'll be over the hill. But I'm 14 I feel great. And yeah, 10 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,340 give a nice celebration at home, you've family come over, hang 11 00:00:59,340 --> 00:00:59,730 out. 12 00:01:01,260 --> 00:01:03,510 Have this one, two people for one second. 13 00:01:04,530 --> 00:01:12,990 From the last for the 28th October instead of January 1 is 14 00:01:12,990 --> 00:01:17,640 like one big blur. Because I have my two daughters birthdays 15 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,970 they have Halloween Thanksgiving. My dad's birthday 16 00:01:20,970 --> 00:01:24,540 was the 27th of November. Their mom's the fourth? My brother's 17 00:01:24,540 --> 00:01:29,160 the ninth. So it's just been one big for Nope, no pun intended 18 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:36,630 celebration. Um, and, man, we turned up my wife and the kids 19 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:39,360 you know, thinking about that you maybe you should just gather 20 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,420 the whole family and go on a cruise for six weeks and do it 21 00:01:42,420 --> 00:01:44,610 all in one go just party every night. 22 00:01:46,350 --> 00:01:50,820 We might just do that from now on because it's it's a wild 23 00:01:50,820 --> 00:01:54,510 time. I mean, it's a great time. But it is a wild time. And 24 00:01:54,810 --> 00:02:00,030 around here in the brown effects house. So very good. I'm happy 25 00:02:00,030 --> 00:02:03,750 you're I'm happy you're happy and good health. And man, I'm 26 00:02:03,750 --> 00:02:06,270 glad that we're back on the microphones because I've been 27 00:02:06,300 --> 00:02:09,570 jonesing to talk to you. It's been it's been just a tad over 28 00:02:09,570 --> 00:02:14,490 two weeks. So I'm excited. It's in August a highlight I've been 29 00:02:14,490 --> 00:02:19,050 chosen to and this topic that we're going to cover so we jump 30 00:02:19,050 --> 00:02:21,660 right in it because I have a pretty cool bag. 31 00:02:25,980 --> 00:02:30,210 The Wheel of topics, I've noticed in the parlance that the 32 00:02:30,210 --> 00:02:34,740 term bag can be used very universally. So we have we got 33 00:02:34,740 --> 00:02:37,890 the bag with the money we got the bag with the money when 34 00:02:37,890 --> 00:02:41,070 you're getting caught. And you got the bag which is I don't 35 00:02:41,070 --> 00:02:45,600 know mo facts dr kit of goodies. So bag is pretty darn universal. 36 00:02:45,630 --> 00:02:49,230 And then it's another one where when you're in your bag, that's 37 00:02:49,230 --> 00:02:52,380 like when you're in the zone or you're doing you're doing your 38 00:02:52,380 --> 00:02:55,530 thing. So let's get in our bag here Ladies and gentlemen, find 39 00:02:55,530 --> 00:02:59,040 out what the topics going to be for. Adam Curry Episode Number 40 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,810 55 nobody knows that we'll have topics will close. Except mo Of 41 00:03:03,810 --> 00:03:07,290 course he knows exactly what is the topic for Episode 55 is how 42 00:03:07,290 --> 00:03:12,210 do you know when a mindset has become a mind trap? 43 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,810 Ooh, lots of mind stuff in their mind. So mind trap mind control. 44 00:03:18,810 --> 00:03:22,560 I'm all over it. So you might need to get your passport for 45 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,740 this Adam cuz I'm gonna take you on a trip to the trap. 46 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:34,950 All right. I'm good to go. So there was a cultural event that 47 00:03:34,950 --> 00:03:38,790 happened maybe two three weeks ago, probably unbeknownst to 48 00:03:38,790 --> 00:03:43,260 you. But it was on Instagram. And it was the verses battle 49 00:03:43,650 --> 00:03:48,030 between Young Jeezy and gucci mane. I heard of it. Of course. 50 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,680 I had no idea where to look for it. Twitter did not bleed it 51 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,570 into my feed. So I completely missed it. It was to 2 million 52 00:03:57,570 --> 00:04:01,380 live viewers almost to me. I think it did clip 2 million live 53 00:04:01,380 --> 00:04:04,920 viewers viewers on Instagram. Wow. And then you got to factor 54 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:10,800 in all the other subsidiary streams, people streaming it. Is 55 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,850 this a is this an annual event? This comes back every year? No, 56 00:04:14,850 --> 00:04:18,180 actually, this is one of the great things that came out of 57 00:04:18,180 --> 00:04:22,980 the whole COVID situation. So let me let me explain. Let me 58 00:04:22,980 --> 00:04:28,140 explain versus first so we can get an SVR. Right versus That's 59 00:04:28,140 --> 00:04:28,470 correct. 60 00:04:29,580 --> 00:04:34,590 Yeah, it was put together by Swiss beats and Timberland. What 61 00:04:34,590 --> 00:04:38,670 they do is they take two celebrities, they're somewhat 62 00:04:38,700 --> 00:04:40,410 equally matched or have 63 00:04:41,460 --> 00:04:47,010 somewhat similar catalogs. Mm hmm. I think it's 20 songs per p 64 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,900 apiece are played. And, you know, it's kind of like a 65 00:04:52,290 --> 00:04:55,380 friendly battle. Yeah, but this one was a different. 66 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:59,970 This one had a totally different concept. It wasn't like a like 67 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,380 A rap battle like the old kiss FM Los Angeles days if we throw 68 00:05:04,380 --> 00:05:08,700 down against each other, or is it something else? You say that 69 00:05:08,700 --> 00:05:11,100 again? You were breaking the ball. I said, is it? Is it like 70 00:05:11,100 --> 00:05:14,040 one of the old rap battles from the late 80s? You know, kiss FM, 71 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,340 Los Angeles, or is this something else? Is this just 72 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,570 pure? DJing? No, no, no, no, no, you actually have the two 73 00:05:21,570 --> 00:05:22,920 celebrities there. Yeah. 74 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:30,330 For instance, they had I think, Patti LaBelle, and, um, Gladys 75 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:33,300 Knight, I think those Oh, wow. Okay, so that's, that's a match 76 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:37,110 and where and what do they do then? So they play one song from 77 00:05:37,110 --> 00:05:41,310 Patty. One song from Gladys or I mean, you had Timberland. I 78 00:05:41,310 --> 00:05:44,160 forget all the ones that we had the one the biggest one I paid 79 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,480 attention to, was the reserve versus DJ Premier. Right, right. 80 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,090 I mean, the production. What do you do? How do you win? 81 00:05:52,620 --> 00:05:56,010 The people decide? And how did they decide? I'm just drilling 82 00:05:56,010 --> 00:05:56,700 down? No. 83 00:05:58,230 --> 00:06:01,380 No, no, I'm assuming that you This is why we do this. 84 00:06:03,390 --> 00:06:06,390 Okay, it's like American Idol. Where you got a text and call 85 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:10,620 vote. Are people yelling screaming on the floor? No. is 86 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,850 strictly social media fault. There's no score kept. Everybody 87 00:06:14,850 --> 00:06:18,510 has their own scorecard. Okay, I get it. Oh, this that's even 88 00:06:18,510 --> 00:06:22,230 better that way. I like it. It is because it creates a bunch of 89 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:26,580 who actually won. And it's people score. It's like Boston. 90 00:06:26,580 --> 00:06:30,270 I mean, the best was like now it's like, Well, how about it 91 00:06:30,270 --> 00:06:33,600 could be boxing or politics. It's the same thing. Everyone? 92 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:33,780 Yeah. 93 00:06:35,970 --> 00:06:37,290 Depends on how you're counting. Yeah. 94 00:06:40,170 --> 00:06:44,910 Exactly. Was this done in the pilot politician voting way? Or 95 00:06:44,910 --> 00:06:48,720 was this done in the boxing way? Yeah, it was done in the boxing 96 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,140 way where everybody has their own card. Got it? And you might 97 00:06:52,140 --> 00:06:52,830 score it. 98 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:58,050 Let's see. 11. Nine, or, you know, because it's like I said, 99 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,250 me, excuse me? Uh, 100 00:07:00,630 --> 00:07:04,890 yeah. 11 cuz twin is 20 songs. And they run them down one back 101 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,450 one against the other. And this is amazing that you never heard 102 00:07:09,510 --> 00:07:12,720 me cuz this is big. This was like the biggest 103 00:07:13,890 --> 00:07:16,200 a celebrity event. 104 00:07:17,820 --> 00:07:21,510 quote unquote, flat. You can see, are you confused with Adam 105 00:07:21,510 --> 00:07:24,540 from 20 years ago? Who was supposed to show up and see 106 00:07:24,540 --> 00:07:25,890 that? No. 107 00:07:26,970 --> 00:07:30,600 lead over it? No, not at all. Man. It did not you're gonna be 108 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,650 sir. Once we get into, you will see how big it was. So I don't 109 00:07:34,650 --> 00:07:40,410 want her. So to give background, we have Young Jeezy and Gucci 110 00:07:40,410 --> 00:07:44,580 Mane they are to trap rappers. And some may say they are the 111 00:07:45,030 --> 00:07:48,900 king of trap. And this is what this was gonna decide. But they 112 00:07:48,900 --> 00:07:52,470 also have a bad blood between them. So that's what we're going 113 00:07:52,470 --> 00:07:55,860 to explore. And then also we'll explore the the political 114 00:07:55,860 --> 00:08:00,300 implications and the social implications and all of that. So 115 00:08:00,330 --> 00:08:02,850 I didn't think I don't think anybody covered it from the 116 00:08:02,850 --> 00:08:05,400 point that we're gonna cover it from. So 117 00:08:06,810 --> 00:08:10,710 but I guess we need to warn people. This is a popcorn wrap. 118 00:08:10,710 --> 00:08:13,140 So I guess we need to put one people at this point, some 119 00:08:13,140 --> 00:08:16,050 viewers may find the following disturbing. Viewer discretion is 120 00:08:16,050 --> 00:08:16,500 advised. 121 00:08:18,030 --> 00:08:21,060 So we always try to keep it family friendly. We get a lot of 122 00:08:21,060 --> 00:08:25,350 comments. I certainly try hard. I know you mo you barely cuss. 123 00:08:26,010 --> 00:08:29,400 But this may be a little, a little more on the edge because 124 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,820 of the content because of the clips. And that's just a fair 125 00:08:32,820 --> 00:08:35,550 warning for those who want maybe want to screen it before you let 126 00:08:35,550 --> 00:08:42,150 your kids hear. Correct. But I will say this is very pertinent 127 00:08:42,180 --> 00:08:45,690 to a lot of people's kids because as you know they're 128 00:08:45,690 --> 00:08:48,690 watching trap rap is the most 129 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,020 widespread form or genre rap right now. So it's not like your 130 00:08:55,020 --> 00:08:59,970 kids are not exposed to this type of music. So 131 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,990 we're actually this warning is for you parents as a trigger 132 00:09:03,990 --> 00:09:06,330 warning when you find out what your kids are actually doing 133 00:09:06,330 --> 00:09:10,380 when you're not looking. Got it. Correct. So what we want to do 134 00:09:10,380 --> 00:09:15,630 is get into a little background about the trap itself. And this 135 00:09:15,630 --> 00:09:16,890 is Atlanta 1.1 136 00:09:18,930 --> 00:09:22,920 is Thomas Welcome to Atlanta, the city to visit to hate and 137 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,220 drug trafficking hub for the East Coast and the homeless. 138 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,790 Trap Music. I cried 139 00:09:47,820 --> 00:09:50,070 when Robert rabbit used to be able to smell the dope 140 00:09:53,730 --> 00:09:57,180 you should be able to see the fucking dough cookie. You should 141 00:09:57,180 --> 00:09:58,980 be able to visualize and see that shit. 142 00:10:21,030 --> 00:10:24,480 Lana's history is intimately tied up in transportation. When 143 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,060 it started, it was at the end of all the railroad lines in 144 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:30,120 America, then Sherman came in burnt those onto the ground and 145 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,970 they just kind of replaced them with highways, and plop the 146 00:10:32,970 --> 00:10:35,850 biggest airport in the world on top of everything. So that's 147 00:10:35,850 --> 00:10:38,250 basically where every road in the East Coast comes through, 148 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:44,670 which makes it an ideal spot for drunk travel. Ah, hey, off the 149 00:10:44,670 --> 00:10:46,770 bat, we're getting to the good stuff. 150 00:10:47,910 --> 00:10:50,850 So we're back in Atlanta. Yes, exactly. 151 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,270 Ah, that was Curtis snow. And he's famous for making, I think 152 00:10:57,270 --> 00:11:01,890 the Netflix movie, snow on the bluff. And if anybody wants a 153 00:11:01,890 --> 00:11:03,900 visual representation or a 154 00:11:05,070 --> 00:11:08,340 account of what the trap is, you may want to check that movie 155 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:11,400 out. And of course, it's the adult content. So just be aware. 156 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:18,300 But as he said, it's very chaotic. The music is it's very 157 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:24,420 gritty. And it was birthed out of the trap house. So the trap 158 00:11:24,420 --> 00:11:27,930 house is similar to what they used to call the crack house. 159 00:11:29,220 --> 00:11:36,810 And the trap itself is basically the drug drug subculture, and 160 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,400 Atlanta and other southern states. And I want to juxtapose 161 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:46,020 that because I'm from the south. So we didn't really have the 162 00:11:46,350 --> 00:11:50,580 project building is like in New York and those things, you have 163 00:11:50,580 --> 00:11:51,030 more 164 00:11:52,170 --> 00:11:57,030 neighborhoods and houses and that kind of thing. So that's 165 00:11:57,030 --> 00:11:59,610 what became the trap in the drug trade. 166 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:01,920 And that's 167 00:12:03,270 --> 00:12:07,380 those city blocks or those those streets. They were just it was 168 00:12:07,380 --> 00:12:10,590 all drug trafficking. So that whole area was the drug track 169 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:13,620 for everything that was going on there. Yeah, and it's not the 170 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:16,200 whole neighborhood you might have one or two trap houses in 171 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,040 the neighborhood but we're gonna get a further explanation but I 172 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,280 want to set people up to see where we're going here and 173 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,640 that's like they said at LACMA is one of the main hoes because 174 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,050 you have all the major 175 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,150 interstates right? Run through Atlanta, right? So that and then 176 00:12:33,150 --> 00:12:36,540 you have the you know, the largest airport airport in 177 00:12:36,540 --> 00:12:41,130 Atlanta. So all of these things play into creating the trap. So 178 00:12:41,130 --> 00:12:42,480 what would you give a 179 00:12:43,950 --> 00:12:46,080 little background on 180 00:12:47,340 --> 00:12:50,190 the environment and how it birthed the music and then how 181 00:12:50,190 --> 00:12:55,650 the music birth these to an artist, and then their conflict 182 00:12:55,650 --> 00:12:58,680 is going to be a microcosm of what goes on in these 183 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:03,840 communities. Okay, so good. This is decoding the quote unquote, 184 00:13:03,870 --> 00:13:05,460 urban CNN. 185 00:13:07,410 --> 00:13:10,980 Alright, so I guess we can get into Atlanta. 2.1 man's Give me 186 00:13:10,980 --> 00:13:13,560 one point to keep hearing about the trap. What is the trap? 187 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,660 Is what it is? trap. So you can count up in 188 00:13:20,370 --> 00:13:21,900 one way in one way? Yeah. 189 00:13:23,970 --> 00:13:24,390 Yeah. 190 00:13:25,650 --> 00:13:28,650 That would be a trap going. be just what it is. 191 00:13:32,070 --> 00:13:35,670 Yeah, it's a trap. It's just a trap. That's why it's trap 192 00:13:35,670 --> 00:13:36,870 music. Exactly. 193 00:13:37,980 --> 00:13:42,030 Studio. Is he going to get his hand in hand? You can't have one 194 00:13:42,030 --> 00:13:44,820 without the other candidates. Without the studio without the 195 00:13:44,820 --> 00:13:46,470 dope. The dope 196 00:13:48,810 --> 00:13:49,350 rap. 197 00:13:53,250 --> 00:13:55,410 Now know what happened when the guys from Detroit came in like 198 00:13:55,410 --> 00:13:56,430 BMF. Do you remember? 199 00:13:57,750 --> 00:13:59,040 parties everywhere? 200 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,840 No, everybody had 201 00:14:04,860 --> 00:14:08,040 everybody. See what the move was with the money. 202 00:14:09,540 --> 00:14:10,290 And with the money 203 00:14:11,910 --> 00:14:16,350 all you had to do was go gold. And he had you know, put someone 204 00:14:16,350 --> 00:14:16,650 in. 205 00:14:18,810 --> 00:14:23,640 Okay, I have a question. Because I'm a big fan of associating 206 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:30,810 music with drugs. And so you know, 6070s marijuana, we had 207 00:14:31,170 --> 00:14:37,770 disco cocaine. We certainly have a rave culture with MDMA, Molly, 208 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:43,380 ecstasy, etc. In tramp watch the dope of choice. Well, the dope 209 00:14:43,380 --> 00:14:49,800 that sale is crack and pills. Do you have the drug to use and the 210 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:55,470 trap became prescription drugs Danny bars, lane which is the 211 00:14:55,470 --> 00:14:59,910 cough medicine. They pour with soda read of course. 212 00:15:00,359 --> 00:15:06,389 in Mali, Mali is a large part of trap of trap as well. 213 00:15:07,589 --> 00:15:11,249 So I'm please ask a lot of questions because I don't want 214 00:15:11,249 --> 00:15:14,879 to make any assumptions because I don't I want to I want you to 215 00:15:14,879 --> 00:15:18,809 bounce off from me. Right? Well that way the audience is not are 216 00:15:18,809 --> 00:15:23,369 the producers are not lost. I don't make any assumptions. 217 00:15:23,549 --> 00:15:23,999 Sure. 218 00:15:25,020 --> 00:15:28,950 So just so you said something interesting. The drug to sell 219 00:15:29,250 --> 00:15:32,550 versus the drug that's used so is that to markets people are 220 00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:35,760 coming in to buy and they're just coming into the the trap 221 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,950 neighborhoods the trap house to buy and they're going away? 222 00:15:37,950 --> 00:15:42,030 That's different than not selling to the to themselves. 223 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:48,000 Yeah, me. Yeah, of course. But then you have, you won't have a 224 00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:52,740 trapper 225 00:15:54,450 --> 00:15:58,500 using crack. I mean, they, they will. I mean, it's the thing 226 00:15:58,500 --> 00:16:01,950 called a table habit. So, when, when you're tasting to make sure 227 00:16:01,950 --> 00:16:05,730 the potency is there, you may pick up a habit. Mm hmm. But 228 00:16:05,730 --> 00:16:09,000 it's not like they're actively smoking crack. Okay, so they 229 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,720 have a different appetite than what they sell. Okay, so now 230 00:16:12,750 --> 00:16:15,660 I'll ask I'll ask to you simply just because just for my own 231 00:16:15,660 --> 00:16:16,470 edification, 232 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,350 what is the drug of choice when producing the music? clean, and 233 00:16:22,350 --> 00:16:26,370 weed? Lean and weed and lean was the the cough medicine you mix 234 00:16:26,370 --> 00:16:29,520 with soda? The purple and that's what you heard purple? Mm hmm. 235 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,980 This is when I saw. Okay, a little. A little sidebar here. 236 00:16:34,980 --> 00:16:39,600 Sure. So lean lean came out of Texas. Way back. We're talking 237 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:46,380 about UGK, early 90s. But it didn't really explode into what 238 00:16:46,380 --> 00:16:53,760 it is now. Um, until maybe the early 2000s. Sorry. UGK. Yeah, 239 00:16:53,790 --> 00:16:57,480 underground kings. Thank you. That's a bunbee and the late 240 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,510 Pepsi, the late great Pepsi Lin put some respect on Pepsi name. 241 00:17:00,780 --> 00:17:05,250 Um, so these are the godfathers of Trap Music named Scarface 242 00:17:05,250 --> 00:17:06,630 from ghetto boys. 243 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,130 They're the godfathers of trap music but it wasn't trapped in. 244 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:16,620 But the see kebab is very reasonable. 245 00:17:17,670 --> 00:17:22,650 And the down south or artists look to other down south artists 246 00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:26,640 for influences. God, they don't really mess with New York 247 00:17:26,670 --> 00:17:27,810 artists like they're 248 00:17:29,100 --> 00:17:35,220 so okay. And that's why I say UGK and Scarface loop to some 249 00:17:36,420 --> 00:17:41,910 to some extent from to LA crew. Those are the godfathers of trap 250 00:17:41,910 --> 00:17:44,940 Muse Oh, let me not forget three six mafia. You see what's good. 251 00:17:44,940 --> 00:17:48,810 I want to get on with mafiosi interesting is that 252 00:17:49,830 --> 00:17:51,270 and and I say this, because the, 253 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,940 the whole rave culture, and you know, DJs, making millions of 254 00:17:56,940 --> 00:18:01,950 dollars a year is interesting. Because the DJs as far as the 255 00:18:01,950 --> 00:18:05,250 ones I know, are clean as a whistle. They're nerds, they're, 256 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,520 you know, they used to study mathematics and crap like that. 257 00:18:08,610 --> 00:18:13,950 So they make this music, as far as I know, completely sober. But 258 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,870 it's consumed it often in large settings, raves, arenas, etc. 259 00:18:19,650 --> 00:18:25,530 and ecstasy and MDMA and Molly. They're really designed for that 260 00:18:25,530 --> 00:18:29,190 kind of music. So it's interesting when you have 261 00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:32,070 perhaps a different drug being consumed while producing it, 262 00:18:32,370 --> 00:18:34,440 versus the people who are listening. But is that also 263 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,800 leaning weed for people who are just in who are enjoying trap 264 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:43,140 house trap music? Yes, yes. It is. I mean, like I said, I gotta 265 00:18:43,140 --> 00:18:44,610 try some of this lien then. I mean, I 266 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,380 know for sure because I'm experimental mode. I'll do 267 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:53,520 something. And Okay. Well, for one they took it took the the 268 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,390 purple off the I think it was activists. Um, 269 00:18:58,590 --> 00:19:01,470 it was the purple when they took it off the market due to Justin 270 00:19:01,470 --> 00:19:06,180 Bieber. So when he started, he got to that height of celebrity. 271 00:19:06,270 --> 00:19:09,120 Uh huh. And so they pulled it off the market. And I think it 272 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:13,290 was activist if I'm not mistaken. But anyways, basically 273 00:19:13,290 --> 00:19:17,010 cops start recoding in little ways known for you. This is when 274 00:19:17,010 --> 00:19:21,690 you saw the Styrofoam cups. cups. Yeah, okay. Yes. 275 00:19:23,070 --> 00:19:27,090 These things you probably seen them pop up, but you didn't 276 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:31,560 understand what was. Now Trayvon Martin case was surrounded 277 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,740 around lean real and that's why he has iced tea and the 278 00:19:34,740 --> 00:19:39,450 Skittles. That thing? Yeah, that mean that popped up? Because 279 00:19:39,450 --> 00:19:43,140 that's what they do. They pour it pour up with yourself. You 280 00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:48,150 put the I never I've never used lean. So this is third party. 281 00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:54,540 You're reliably informed. Yes. Right. So basically, you have 282 00:19:54,540 --> 00:19:59,760 ice you have your cough syrup. You pour up with some soda 283 00:20:00,210 --> 00:20:05,670 sprite is usually the top choice soda and us put a candy in the 284 00:20:05,670 --> 00:20:07,140 bottom of it to make it sweet 285 00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:12,810 so that's what that was all about holy crap yeah that's why 286 00:20:12,810 --> 00:20:17,670 I want to do this show cuz this is why in wheat excuse me lean 287 00:20:17,670 --> 00:20:24,000 got so widespread all across Africa bleen epidemic and the 288 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,370 power of hip hop Yes Wait Yes. 289 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,470 This show you the power of hip hop as a vehicle to take a 290 00:20:31,470 --> 00:20:33,900 message globally 291 00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:37,920 and this is part of the reason why I want to do this episode 292 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,460 and do this show and I have to do it with care. I just don't 293 00:20:41,460 --> 00:20:44,400 want to talk about the the battle and we're not going to 294 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,000 talk about the battle very much it's just like pre post battle 295 00:20:49,020 --> 00:20:53,310 and the implication so yes, that's that's where ln popped up 296 00:20:53,310 --> 00:20:58,230 it is there. Yes. Is or is another Yeah. Okay. Cool. I put 297 00:20:58,230 --> 00:21:02,550 in this is drank I think any other names 298 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,170 purple was the big like, that was the most popular one. And 299 00:21:07,170 --> 00:21:08,460 you couldn't see I'm 300 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,050 I'm a little after that when trap hit. I was maybe early to 301 00:21:13,050 --> 00:21:17,940 mid 20s. So I was still consuming the music. But I had 302 00:21:17,940 --> 00:21:21,330 already my tastes had been defined. So track wasn't really 303 00:21:21,330 --> 00:21:26,490 my thing. Um, but when you're listening to mixtapes, all you 304 00:21:26,490 --> 00:21:29,820 started seeing on mixtape websites is purple, purple, 305 00:21:29,820 --> 00:21:31,050 purple, everything is 306 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,040 interesting. while of course cough syrup is a is an opioid 307 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,170 Yeah, this it can be addictive. 308 00:21:38,190 --> 00:21:38,790 It's no doubt. 309 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,260 And cough syrup is not new. Because even though I mentioned 310 00:21:43,380 --> 00:21:49,110 I mentioned before today, rose up in the 90s. In the 70s. They 311 00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:51,420 were drinking it because my dad would tell me about it and it 312 00:21:51,420 --> 00:21:54,720 had a different name to it. I'm trying to think the main he used 313 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,060 to refer to it. He was like, Oh, no, we were doing that back in 314 00:21:57,900 --> 00:21:58,560 the 70s. 315 00:22:00,510 --> 00:22:03,570 Yeah, I think they put some ink off certain to make you sick now 316 00:22:03,570 --> 00:22:06,060 if you drink too much. Yeah, well, they also made it harder 317 00:22:06,060 --> 00:22:11,250 to buy. And I want to show you another thing. This isn't just 318 00:22:11,250 --> 00:22:15,540 me my perception. I have no proof to make the statement. But 319 00:22:15,570 --> 00:22:20,940 I noticed NyQuil came out with a product. That was not cough, 320 00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:26,340 sir. That was called. Sleepy girl. Yeah, what color was Adam 321 00:22:26,340 --> 00:22:27,840 purple. 322 00:22:29,010 --> 00:22:33,300 Thank you. Wow. I remember. I remember my daughter saying oh, 323 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:39,060 I want some is quill. Like what? She's Oh, yeah, she was. Yeah. 324 00:22:40,050 --> 00:22:43,980 She said, Give me some give me some z quilon solo cups dad. I'm 325 00:22:43,980 --> 00:22:45,720 like, okay, whatever. I'm just kidding. 326 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,530 But that's but this is really interesting, because this is an 327 00:22:49,530 --> 00:22:54,510 epidemic that is not spoken of at all. Everyone's talking about 328 00:22:54,510 --> 00:22:58,140 weed and heroin. And this is, I mean, I thought this was 329 00:22:58,230 --> 00:23:02,370 honestly, the cough syrup thing. Honestly, I'm always honest with 330 00:23:02,370 --> 00:23:08,280 you. The cough syrup thing, in my mind was like a, and I'll 331 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:13,560 just use the terms. Okay, white trash, cooking it to make a 332 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,360 really poor man's white trash meth. That is my 333 00:23:19,380 --> 00:23:22,440 that's the only real thing I associate cough syrup with in an 334 00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:26,610 in an abusive way. Yeah, that was I forgot what it's called. 335 00:23:26,610 --> 00:23:28,530 But they put it behind the counter and you can only buy 336 00:23:28,530 --> 00:23:32,520 like two boxes at a time. Exactly. No, this is actual 337 00:23:32,550 --> 00:23:36,150 prescription and the other thing is, it was prescription. You had 338 00:23:36,150 --> 00:23:41,490 to have a prescription to get to it. Got it. Um, but obviously, I 339 00:23:41,490 --> 00:23:44,730 mean it made it to the streets in large quantities and nobody 340 00:23:44,730 --> 00:23:48,330 asked any questions about it so that lets you know how these 341 00:23:48,330 --> 00:23:51,900 farmers some pharmaceutical companies really get down. Oh 342 00:23:54,150 --> 00:23:57,000 you're gonna say something? No, no, no, no, that was just me 343 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,300 going. 344 00:24:01,530 --> 00:24:04,740 In the other thing I've learned enough for today. I don't need 345 00:24:04,740 --> 00:24:07,140 to know any more 24 minutes a show. Perfect. 346 00:24:08,430 --> 00:24:12,000 All right, so let's not be late with the lane point. But that 347 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,210 that's that was a good question about the drug of choice. I 348 00:24:15,210 --> 00:24:19,380 guess we're getting right into a 2.3. And what better guide to 349 00:24:19,380 --> 00:24:21,330 take us through Atlanta's underworld and the devil. 350 00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:34,560 Double. 351 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,570 Seriously though, the double have spent the last decade 352 00:24:42,570 --> 00:24:44,670 working with rappers from some of the city's seamless 353 00:24:44,670 --> 00:24:47,250 neighborhoods and documenting life in the traps that gave 354 00:24:47,250 --> 00:24:49,170 Atlanta scene and that scene. His name. 355 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,410 is pink city pink city is going up with pink city was on how 356 00:25:04,410 --> 00:25:07,920 your street edge wouldn't own Auburn and that was like the 357 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,980 last of the Mohicans for like a really rural rolling is Atlanta 358 00:25:10,980 --> 00:25:14,100 trout like pulled other shows like 359 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,160 fucking zombie movie 360 00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:22,560 no wait a minute he did discussing certain trap houses 361 00:25:23,340 --> 00:25:26,670 just areas in Atlanta that would that would traps I mean that 362 00:25:26,670 --> 00:25:30,990 were real trap so I played that clip just to show you that 363 00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:39,120 there's levels to it the rappers that you see that actually make 364 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:43,170 trap music a lot of them don't even go to the real trap sure of 365 00:25:43,170 --> 00:25:45,270 course they don't they don't have good passes. 366 00:25:46,650 --> 00:25:51,030 Passes now that's not that's the real thing. 367 00:25:52,260 --> 00:25:53,970 And that means but let me explain what I mean. 368 00:25:55,980 --> 00:25:59,940 Go for 100 passes basically for like artists. So when artists 369 00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:00,840 come to town 370 00:26:02,010 --> 00:26:04,860 doing shows because when you do shows you're not doing the big 371 00:26:04,890 --> 00:26:08,610 arenas you're doing clubs and those kind of things calls have 372 00:26:08,610 --> 00:26:12,810 to be made could taxes have to be paid to get your hood pass so 373 00:26:12,810 --> 00:26:15,030 you don't get to see you don't get shot? 374 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:22,410 Well so you don't get a cost it and your taxes are collected by 375 00:26:22,410 --> 00:26:27,750 force got it and what kind of tax Could I expect for who would 376 00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:28,320 pass 377 00:26:30,150 --> 00:26:35,940 that would be negotiated by the size of star like I said like I 378 00:26:35,940 --> 00:26:39,450 said they had they had what I'm thinking that term they use but 379 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:45,120 basically you had to make calls before arranging visits to that 380 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:48,810 town while everybody know hey it's just like the mob 381 00:26:51,690 --> 00:26:56,580 it is well of course it is. Yeah, let me see drugs payoffs 382 00:26:57,690 --> 00:27:02,940 sounds like organized crime Yeah, and and in that previous 383 00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:07,770 clip I think at 1.2 BMF a black mafia family was mentioned which 384 00:27:07,770 --> 00:27:13,650 is the the crew of all crews in popular culture but we'll we'll 385 00:27:13,650 --> 00:27:15,900 get to them later on in the show. I guess the question I 386 00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:17,760 have is a trap house now. 387 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,860 This is where people also so I mean with a trap House have 10 388 00:27:22,860 --> 00:27:27,420 people 100 people I mean how big are these are these mansions? 389 00:27:27,420 --> 00:27:31,440 Are these rundown slums? Just give me a Okay, picture. Okay, 390 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,530 so what you have normally is, you know, the smaller houses and 391 00:27:34,530 --> 00:27:38,790 low income communities. And you don't have that many people. And 392 00:27:38,790 --> 00:27:43,800 I can say this own good account? Because I mean, let me say I 393 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,210 could say this. I had a very, very, very, very close family 394 00:27:48,210 --> 00:27:52,320 member that had a trap house. Okay, and usually what goes on 395 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,010 in there is a lot of NBA touquet, where at the time it 396 00:27:56,010 --> 00:28:01,230 was NBA Live, when I was frequenting will displace a lot 397 00:28:01,230 --> 00:28:08,040 of weed smoke, um, and you do your transactions out of the 398 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,600 house, right? And you do the processing? But then you have a 399 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,790 a does the house. Does the house take a piece of the transaction? 400 00:28:18,540 --> 00:28:22,470 No, the house is ran by the lover whoever's transacting got 401 00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:27,540 it. Right. And then you have several different trap house, 402 00:28:27,570 --> 00:28:29,790 one guy might have several different trap houses. And the 403 00:28:29,790 --> 00:28:30,630 reason why I say this, 404 00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:36,690 even though I grew up in a middle class, lower middle 405 00:28:36,690 --> 00:28:36,840 class, 406 00:28:37,860 --> 00:28:40,680 pride above lower middle class, my mom, my dad was a teacher, my 407 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,230 mom and social workers today make a lot of money, but they 408 00:28:43,230 --> 00:28:46,620 made enough not for us to have to live and you know, 409 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,750 urban hoods, quote unquote pips, good. 410 00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:59,520 But so but with family and those kind of things, you would go to 411 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,040 neighborhoods and be like, Oh, that's a trap house not in 412 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,100 Atlanta, there was a specific type of trap house called a 413 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:09,060 bandeau and abandoned house was short for abandoned. So they 414 00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:11,550 would go in to abandoned house. 415 00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:16,740 Hook up power water, you know, turn the water back on, with it 416 00:29:16,740 --> 00:29:19,260 with the right with the key to the city with the college 417 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:26,850 and get things poppin so the the my version of this, and then 418 00:29:26,850 --> 00:29:31,650 when I was young, is someone would have weed. And then we'd 419 00:29:31,650 --> 00:29:33,750 go to that someone's house whose parents weren't there and it 420 00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:38,610 could easily be 10 guys, that never girls 10 guys, we sit 421 00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:42,150 around we smoke weed, and then we watch the faces of death 422 00:29:42,150 --> 00:29:45,900 video or maybe Diana Ross in the round. I don't know why just 423 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,710 remember that for some reason. And you know, we see like, oh 424 00:29:49,740 --> 00:29:54,390 man, and this is teenager stuff. But what it wasn't organized, 425 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,960 but the guy who who had it would also sell to you. So it was I 426 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,250 guess a version of that. 427 00:30:00,210 --> 00:30:02,910 And they're really professional because they level the trap 428 00:30:02,910 --> 00:30:04,980 houses. I mean, everybody calls it a trap. 429 00:30:06,390 --> 00:30:09,780 If you are a low level dealer you're not going to have your 430 00:30:09,780 --> 00:30:14,250 house set up in a way that a real trap star right we'll have 431 00:30:14,250 --> 00:30:17,400 it set up. And that's what the bars on the window windows and 432 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,470 impenetrable Yeah. safe room in the back. He's got the ladies 433 00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:26,430 processing the cash. Um, this is my movie. Right this right 434 00:30:26,430 --> 00:30:29,820 that's that's but that's the image of you know, this payment. 435 00:30:30,060 --> 00:30:33,630 And it was painted by movies cuz sure the cooking up with women 436 00:30:33,630 --> 00:30:34,770 with no clothes on that. 437 00:30:36,450 --> 00:30:41,430 I'm thinking of. Exactly. Yeah, one of those rooms. Because I 438 00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:44,940 plan to and then you know, you have. Okay, so you have new jack 439 00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:48,060 city ministers Sati showed you how to cook crap. 440 00:30:49,290 --> 00:30:52,590 Yeah, those are not movie videos, basically. 441 00:30:53,820 --> 00:30:58,800 Exactly. So just just to lay it out what's going on here and 442 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,100 we're heading somewhere. But let's go. Let's go ahead and get 443 00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:06,330 into 2.4 crackheads and Shin Shin another Street. Like it was 444 00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:11,280 like an extended stay motel. Maybe 17 or 18 rooms. And only 445 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,600 motherfuckers or new adult boys are smokers. So like, when you 446 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,140 went in there was like, that was a real trap. Like your enemy. 447 00:31:19,140 --> 00:31:21,330 They're not openly gay unless they know who you are. Know what 448 00:31:21,330 --> 00:31:23,910 you're doing know what you want. Like around the world, like 449 00:31:23,910 --> 00:31:25,890 people are using the word trap. They don't even know what the 450 00:31:25,890 --> 00:31:29,070 fuck that means. You just get trapped in it. I don't know. How 451 00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:29,310 do you? 452 00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:39,270 Is this a white girl? Yes. 453 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,500 It's an Atlanta concept because Atlanta was developed around 454 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,710 railroads there's a lot of one ways and dead ends. So when you 455 00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:54,900 pull into a one way or a dead end, you go down to the end of 456 00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:56,190 the street where there's some dope it. 457 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,010 That's a fucking shrub. 458 00:32:01,740 --> 00:32:04,590 Because if they draw down on the street, your fucking stone 459 00:32:05,370 --> 00:32:07,500 thinks that he may have been paved under to make way for 460 00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:10,950 lofts and brunch spots. That Atlanta has no shortage of other 461 00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:13,080 traps resisting the crush of gentrification. 462 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,700 No, okay. Got it. So, so the, 463 00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:23,640 the layout of the city, and how the neighborhoods are configured 464 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,320 one way is those kind of things. Maybe we 465 00:32:26,850 --> 00:32:29,040 are, yeah, made it perfect for this. Right. 466 00:32:30,060 --> 00:32:33,210 And there was one hotel in Derm. While I'm, while I'm originally 467 00:32:33,210 --> 00:32:36,060 from it was right behind the police department, and it was 468 00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:39,780 one of those kind of hotels where you pay by the day. And 469 00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:41,970 you know, it's kind of that CD thing. 470 00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:47,070 Yeah, but it was allowed to happen. And it's not the city of 471 00:32:47,070 --> 00:32:49,740 Durham. I can't I can't remember the name of now, but people from 472 00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:53,910 Durban know what I'm talking about. Um, and it was allowed to 473 00:32:53,910 --> 00:32:57,870 be. And it was, I mean, cuz like, you can set up a trap 474 00:32:57,870 --> 00:33:01,140 anywhere, to be honest, but I don't want to get go down that 475 00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:05,610 rabbit hole. But now we have to get into poo and vinit trap 476 00:33:05,610 --> 00:33:08,580 music. And there's a lot of argument about this. Let's play 477 00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:11,430 the clip and then we're coming back out to see who actually 478 00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:16,410 invented trap music in 2017. rap and r&b surpass rock as the 479 00:33:16,410 --> 00:33:20,340 biggest genre in the US based on album sales and string. And trap 480 00:33:20,490 --> 00:33:24,030 is arguably raps most popular sub genre. That means millions 481 00:33:24,030 --> 00:33:27,510 of Americans of every shape right now are listening to music 482 00:33:27,510 --> 00:33:30,360 that invokes the cultural legacy and ongoing struggles of 483 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,320 segregation, structural racism, and urban violence. When you 484 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,660 think about somebody like a TI, right, he talks about the 485 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,950 consequences of what it means to be a trapper, and he uses the 486 00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:46,890 music to kind of work through that this is really interesting 487 00:33:46,890 --> 00:33:48,840 to me how everything is all strapped everything and I'm 488 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,270 like, I mean I dealt with my students so it's like you have 489 00:33:51,270 --> 00:33:55,050 trap yoga trap and paying trap karaoke trap water. And I'm 490 00:33:55,050 --> 00:33:58,140 like, I mean, I am a trap purist, I really need to get a 491 00:33:58,140 --> 00:34:01,020 shirt it's just basically me sitting on the porch so to speak 492 00:34:01,050 --> 00:34:04,140 and being like shaking my fist like no this isn't this 493 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,080 but I'm slowly but surely coming to you know grips with the fact 494 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,430 that trap music is now trap aesthetics because it does have 495 00:34:14,460 --> 00:34:18,450 that kind of distinct print that can be used to update or remix 496 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,170 other genres that are already in place. But I also wish that 497 00:34:22,170 --> 00:34:25,380 folks would also you know, basically give receipts and 498 00:34:25,380 --> 00:34:27,750 credit where credit is due just just didn't come out of nowhere 499 00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:29,670 attracting just come out of nowhere. You know what I'm 500 00:34:29,670 --> 00:34:30,090 saying? 501 00:34:31,110 --> 00:34:34,170 Man, I got to open a trap karaoke bar in Austin 502 00:34:40,020 --> 00:34:44,670 that's just perfect because it's been monetized so much they have 503 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,320 a sheet a trap water trap yoga, right when I hear commercials 504 00:34:49,350 --> 00:34:53,910 now have trapped me Yeah, when I hear someone say the systemic 505 00:34:53,940 --> 00:34:57,540 racism I'm thinking okay, traps been hijacked. Probably. 506 00:34:59,460 --> 00:34:59,910 Yes. 507 00:35:01,620 --> 00:35:05,370 very very long time ago and it started with these two gentlemen 508 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,810 in the verses. But so let's just have a quick conversation on who 509 00:35:09,810 --> 00:35:14,460 started trap. So some people say to started trap because he had 510 00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:18,150 an album his I think his first album is called trap music. But 511 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:22,530 who brings to mind the first Trapper I remember seeing was 512 00:35:22,530 --> 00:35:27,660 cool breeze. He used to be an outcast. And he kind of set that 513 00:35:28,110 --> 00:35:34,530 model for you know, like the the Atlanta trap trap. Trap boy. So 514 00:35:35,550 --> 00:35:38,970 yeah, so I mean, he is who and then people some people say well 515 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,720 Gucci man started and other people say well, Jeezy made it 516 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:47,760 popular and this is where the crooks comes in of who birth 517 00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:48,810 trap music. 518 00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:53,400 Also, I want to make one more point and then we can move on. 519 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,470 It always troubled me that it was called a trap. I'm like, 520 00:35:58,470 --> 00:36:02,100 Hello, is the Ernie loss. Don't use it. It's called a trap. 521 00:36:02,130 --> 00:36:07,560 Right? Your plan with your life one way and one way out. Like 522 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:14,100 the master or Dan, or dead end. Right. So I've never that's why 523 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:19,320 I was it's weird because me coming up. I was Listen, I 524 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,740 listen to podcasts and Goodie Mob. And there were from 525 00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:28,020 Atlanta. And they looked at the trap as a negative. So when 526 00:36:28,140 --> 00:36:30,780 especially the outcome, it wasn't the outcast wasn't their 527 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:36,510 whole vibe to be positive and upbeat. Yeah, but what about but 528 00:36:36,510 --> 00:36:40,590 while being realistic? I mean, they didn't sugarcoat it, right? 529 00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:43,380 They were like, yeah, we know, these are the things but it's, 530 00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:47,670 um, we got to do better, like when they're famous songs would 531 00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:50,490 get up, get out and do something, right. So there were 532 00:36:50,490 --> 00:36:55,350 always positive. So when I started to hear this, quote, 533 00:36:55,350 --> 00:36:57,390 unquote, Trap Music come in. 534 00:36:59,430 --> 00:37:02,190 I had mixed feelings about it, because I'm like, I grew up 535 00:37:02,250 --> 00:37:09,330 thinking this. But at some point, crack was made cool. And 536 00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:13,500 I think that really gained popularity with JC there was a 537 00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:16,260 lot of drug dealer rappers before him. I'm not saying that. 538 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:23,130 But he laid down the blueprint of sell drugs. get famous. Take 539 00:37:23,130 --> 00:37:23,940 that money. 540 00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:28,980 Yeah, sell drugs, take that money, get famous. Yeah, flip it 541 00:37:28,980 --> 00:37:32,370 and flip it into your music career. Right? And that's how 542 00:37:32,370 --> 00:37:36,060 you get out. I mean, it's like get in get your money started 543 00:37:36,060 --> 00:37:39,120 label, and then you can be successful. And that's what 544 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:45,330 Curtis snover referring to, you know, the money like drug 545 00:37:45,330 --> 00:37:48,630 dealers with fun rappers. They were looking for rappers to fun 546 00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:52,620 like, Oh, you can rap. You can claim our set. You can claim our 547 00:37:52,620 --> 00:37:55,920 crew we put our chain on you and a chain. It's very important. 548 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,450 The chains are people think these chains are just jury. No, 549 00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:01,830 no, no, no. 550 00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:06,390 They are very important. You're going to hear why later on. 551 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,790 But that's kind of how this whole thing started. 552 00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:16,200 happening because you had a Goswell bunch of money that will 553 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,250 look in the laundry. So it's like, let's start a label who 554 00:38:20,490 --> 00:38:23,760 who was really that? You know, I understand the content I 555 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,450 understand 556 00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:29,130 the lyrics but really the beats really the music which is very 557 00:38:29,130 --> 00:38:34,200 distinct. And who would you say was the beat master that started 558 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,730 that intro you had to you had the ADA way come from Miami sub 559 00:38:38,730 --> 00:38:42,450 base. And then you had the you know, the high hats the triple 560 00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:43,140 high hats. 561 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:50,070 who started it? Well, you got DJ temp, he gave us the TR flavor 562 00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:54,450 trap music. But zaytoven 563 00:38:58,470 --> 00:39:00,030 I want to say 564 00:39:02,610 --> 00:39:06,720 it's a book. You got to get me killed because I don't want to 565 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:10,860 give credit on your credit. That's okay. Well, yeah, it was 566 00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:15,660 it was several different producers that that had artists 567 00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:19,920 they work with that they've stylized their type of trap. 568 00:39:20,190 --> 00:39:23,880 Okay, but I will say zeto there Okay, let me explain this. The 569 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:30,540 trap music that we hear popular now was birth by zaytoven and 570 00:39:30,540 --> 00:39:35,310 gucci mane. There was a another trap like shorty red and Gz 571 00:39:35,850 --> 00:39:40,140 which was probably the most commercial successful trap 572 00:39:40,140 --> 00:39:45,870 music. There is. But it didn't take hold like Gucci man's trap 573 00:39:45,870 --> 00:39:47,670 means and they all this is important, but I know people 574 00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:50,610 like why are we talked about ranking? Is it too early for me 575 00:39:50,610 --> 00:39:54,000 to talk about crunk because that's that I do know. Well, 576 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,970 crunk crunk was pre dated. Trap. Ah, okay, which 577 00:40:00,299 --> 00:40:02,429 That was Littlejohn in a Star Wars. 578 00:40:03,780 --> 00:40:04,830 That energy 579 00:40:05,879 --> 00:40:09,239 that was Crump. So but when the lead comes in that doesn't 580 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,169 really mix with, with, with the crusher, that's when you get the 581 00:40:13,169 --> 00:40:17,399 slow down with the double high hats. Really chopping screw 582 00:40:17,399 --> 00:40:21,029 plays a lot into this too. That's from Houston, where they 583 00:40:21,029 --> 00:40:24,569 would slow the music down really slow. And this is like the 584 00:40:24,569 --> 00:40:28,229 effect of drugs having on the music and the taste. But yeah, 585 00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:31,649 so Okay, I don't want to get caught too much into the weeds 586 00:40:31,649 --> 00:40:35,519 of it. But that's the history of trap. Now I want to Oh, well, we 587 00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:40,649 got one more clip, and we're gonna explain how historical 588 00:40:40,649 --> 00:40:45,749 decisions actually created the geographical trap in Atlanta. We 589 00:40:45,749 --> 00:40:49,049 talked to Kevin Cruz today about his article and his book white 590 00:40:49,049 --> 00:40:52,259 flight to see if we could find any solutions to Atlanta traffic 591 00:40:52,259 --> 00:40:56,189 problem. The rise of the modern expressway movement, the 592 00:40:56,189 --> 00:41:00,269 interstate highways in the 50s. Really obviously a postwar 593 00:41:00,299 --> 00:41:04,499 transformation that hit American cities at the same time. A lot 594 00:41:04,499 --> 00:41:07,349 of them are wrestling with issues of segregation. Cruz says 595 00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:10,679 there are two ways constructing highways played into segregation 596 00:41:10,709 --> 00:41:13,439 making the highway so that it destroys poor black 597 00:41:13,439 --> 00:41:16,859 neighborhoods, or make a highway that separates them from white 598 00:41:16,859 --> 00:41:19,769 neighborhoods. Local officials have a say in where these roads 599 00:41:19,769 --> 00:41:22,319 get placed. And it shouldn't be a surprise that as they're 600 00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:24,599 thinking about where they're going to drop highways and 601 00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:27,599 destroy neighborhoods, they invariably single out what they 602 00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,959 see is the worst neighborhoods in their communities. And these 603 00:41:30,959 --> 00:41:33,689 are overwhelmingly poor communities. And most places 604 00:41:33,689 --> 00:41:36,449 these are overwhelmingly African American or in some places 605 00:41:36,449 --> 00:41:40,949 Latino neighborhoods. This split is most noticeable along I 20. A 606 00:41:40,949 --> 00:41:43,679 report from the Georgia historical society says that 607 00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:47,189 while deciding the route of i 20, the Atlanta bureau of 608 00:41:47,189 --> 00:41:50,279 planning said it would be the boundary between white and 609 00:41:50,279 --> 00:41:54,389 African American communities with that logic in mind, is how 610 00:41:54,389 --> 00:41:56,489 you get the kind of the contorted and 611 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,210 in weird ways in which the highways in Atlanta and other 612 00:42:00,210 --> 00:42:02,580 cities take place. It only makes sense if you're thinking about, 613 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,210 well, just from a pure traffic facilitation standpoint, we 614 00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:09,600 would put them this way. Yeah, Austin, Texas is a great example 615 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,610 of that. Where we have I 35. Sorry, no good. Yeah, we have I 616 00:42:14,610 --> 00:42:18,900 35 going right through town and east side is always been poor 617 00:42:19,110 --> 00:42:22,950 pips black, that's where I live. And to be honest, we have a bit 618 00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:28,860 of a trap problem here. But not so not so much trap houses. But 619 00:42:29,070 --> 00:42:32,310 we got a lot of people who got high powered stereos in their 620 00:42:32,310 --> 00:42:36,240 cars. And they like to congregate at night. And the 621 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:41,340 bass rattles my windows. That's the traps the trap. That's 622 00:42:41,340 --> 00:42:44,760 that's the eight. Oh, wait, wait, that's that's the drum 623 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,900 machine. That is the not only the drum machine, but that bass. 624 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,590 Mm hmm. That is the signature sound that and a triplet. Haha, 625 00:42:52,620 --> 00:42:56,040 that is a signature sound of trap music that thump. Yeah, and 626 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,010 you got to have big speakers in your car to play the thump. 627 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,830 Yeah, and that's a southern thing, because in New York, he 628 00:43:01,830 --> 00:43:05,790 didn't have cars. So you will listen to your music in like, on 629 00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:08,490 boombox, our, our headphones. 630 00:43:09,780 --> 00:43:13,500 down south, we we had cars because you had to have a car to 631 00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:16,650 get around. You have public transportation, right? Like you 632 00:43:16,650 --> 00:43:19,650 do in the north. So the first thing you did was get 633 00:43:20,850 --> 00:43:24,900 a speaker's I don't care how raggedy car, the car or some 634 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:29,490 speakers, right? You had to get some speakers and get across 635 00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:32,820 loud. Yeah, you got to have the app. But you know, the 636 00:43:32,820 --> 00:43:38,100 crossover, the tape deck, CD deck. Just as an aside, there 637 00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:41,280 were I forget, it was in the Netherlands. And it was at the 638 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,120 height of my television career there. And somehow I was paid to 639 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:50,190 do an appearance at a car show that was specifically for audio. 640 00:43:50,190 --> 00:43:51,180 Now I'm talking. 641 00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:53,700 I'm talking 80s 642 00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:58,410 when it was just starting with the crazy ass amps. And I 643 00:43:58,410 --> 00:44:01,350 remember, there was a contest and some for some reason I 644 00:44:01,350 --> 00:44:05,040 participated sit in the car for I think it was two minutes at 645 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,700 full blast. And I think it actually did something. I mean, 646 00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:12,720 here I am with hearing problems. But it was unbeliev it wasn't so 647 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:16,320 much the sound. It was just how how your body vibrated. 648 00:44:17,460 --> 00:44:20,550 And that's part of the sense that cars, and that's so for 649 00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:24,510 some people that's desired. My brother, he had a Cherokee, and 650 00:44:24,510 --> 00:44:28,950 he had like 215 and it was like 1000 watt amp. And it would it 651 00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:31,410 would basically take your breath. Yeah, it was hit so 652 00:44:31,410 --> 00:44:36,570 hard. Oh, yeah. So that mean that is a real stupid shit we do 653 00:44:36,570 --> 00:44:40,710 as humans, I'm never never cease to be amazed. Well, it's a 654 00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:45,060 mating ritual. Sure. That's exactly what it is. You can pull 655 00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:45,390 up your 656 00:44:46,650 --> 00:44:47,610 attention. Yep. 657 00:44:49,650 --> 00:44:54,330 attention seeking mating. That's a mating ritual. Irrespective of 658 00:44:54,330 --> 00:44:58,710 color. Yeah. So I just want I mean, all these things have 659 00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:59,940 subtext. 660 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,450 to it, it's just not I mean a lot of things. A lot of times 661 00:45:03,450 --> 00:45:06,780 people just look at the surface and make judgment and don't 662 00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:08,790 really want to get into the weeds but that's what we're 663 00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:11,550 gonna do. That's what we do here. We were on a week to week 664 00:45:11,550 --> 00:45:16,560 basis, show the show basis but specifically this show because 665 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,550 there's a lot to get to it. So Atlanta was the mecca of the 666 00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:21,000 South. 667 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,100 We you lived in the south, you didn't say I'm gonna go to New 668 00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:29,340 York and make it. It was I want to go to Atlanta what is the 669 00:45:29,340 --> 00:45:33,030 Atlanta doing? That was the sister city to like Charlotte, 670 00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:36,060 North Carolina and Garmin. The same things you saw there how 671 00:45:36,060 --> 00:45:40,590 they said the highways destroyed Atlanta, dirt freeway destroyed 672 00:45:40,590 --> 00:45:45,330 hayti in turn, it ran right down the middle. So in these next set 673 00:45:45,330 --> 00:45:49,560 of clips, we have where the Atlanta and trap 674 00:45:51,540 --> 00:45:55,020 effect is spilling over into small towns. 675 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,180 You may remember the story about four Lagrange teenagers who say 676 00:46:00,180 --> 00:46:03,720 they were approached by a gang member those teenagers said no 677 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:06,900 and in turn us the CEO the housing authority for jobs 678 00:46:07,050 --> 00:46:10,710 several times and they never gave up. Please say gangs are no 679 00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:13,710 longer just an inner city problem and it exists in small 680 00:46:13,710 --> 00:46:17,370 towns to the Lagrange gang unit took Fox wives Nathalie pozo 681 00:46:17,370 --> 00:46:20,700 through some of the violence street gang areas, and athlete 682 00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:24,060 detectives tell you that gangs have always had a place in small 683 00:46:24,060 --> 00:46:27,630 towns in a tom the gang unit with Lagrange to tell me the 684 00:46:27,630 --> 00:46:31,800 structure for gangs in the city have always existed. A few guys 685 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,500 getting together and vowing to protect their neighborhood. 686 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,500 Investigators say when known gangs like the Bloods or the 687 00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:41,370 Crips and larger cities like New York and Chicago find out about 688 00:46:41,370 --> 00:46:44,970 the structure. They offer their support becoming more 689 00:46:44,970 --> 00:46:45,810 widespread. 690 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,900 It's a place where children play an innocent scene. It's also a 691 00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:57,750 place where innocence is lost. 692 00:46:58,890 --> 00:47:01,890 Police a places like these basketball courts can be a 693 00:47:01,890 --> 00:47:04,740 recruiting base for violent street gangs. I will play a 694 00:47:04,740 --> 00:47:05,640 basketball and 695 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,520 soccer sound a lot to her house. I do want to be in a gang. 14 696 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,030 year old demand and D on wood art and 13 year old Jaylen Parr 697 00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:18,540 Hammond, Dileep Smith say they were approached by a gang member 698 00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:21,180 at the Lagrange housing authorities basketball court. 699 00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:22,560 Yeah. 700 00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:29,100 So, so these gangs Well, it started from the north, right 701 00:47:29,130 --> 00:47:31,530 when you had all this supply. 702 00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:35,910 And, and it was a saturated market. It's like, 703 00:47:37,350 --> 00:47:42,480 where do we go? So it was a term called going down south in New 704 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,860 York and other places, they will go to DC and DC and New York has 705 00:47:46,860 --> 00:47:51,930 a rival that mean that still got a robbery that goes on to this 706 00:47:51,930 --> 00:47:52,380 day. 707 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,180 Even in Derm we don't really care for New York people. 708 00:47:57,750 --> 00:48:01,560 Because the people you came encounter with from New York not 709 00:48:01,590 --> 00:48:06,450 all but some wanted to come in, set up shop. Yeah, take over, 710 00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:10,020 like a franchise. It was a well wasn't me take over business. It 711 00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:13,770 was a drug franchise, right? I mean, have your mom and pops 712 00:48:14,220 --> 00:48:16,800 thing going? It's like I want to bring a McDonald's name because 713 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,330 I have this all just inventory so I can drop the price down. 714 00:48:21,390 --> 00:48:25,740 It's a good one. No, just a thought that crossed my head is 715 00:48:25,740 --> 00:48:29,520 that the somewhere along the lines in this episode, people 716 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,240 are going to realize how important the corrupt banking 717 00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:35,580 system is. This is exactly why you be 718 00:48:37,230 --> 00:48:38,010 UBS. 719 00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:45,750 HSBC, the bank existed, they were laundering billions of 720 00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:50,160 dollars. Billions. I've always said the 2008. 721 00:48:53,490 --> 00:48:55,830 The great what the Great Recession. 722 00:48:57,420 --> 00:49:00,660 If we didn't have a drug trade, you and I would not be talking 723 00:49:00,660 --> 00:49:05,790 right now. This country, most countries need drugs to run 724 00:49:06,060 --> 00:49:09,570 weeks, the system doesn't work without it. And we're talking 725 00:49:09,570 --> 00:49:12,510 about, you know, the on the street level, but this goes way 726 00:49:12,510 --> 00:49:15,750 up the chain. And it's funny that you say that because that 727 00:49:15,750 --> 00:49:19,530 was the height of trap music. Or that was when Trap Music 728 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,700 took his place as the King of rap. right in that very same 729 00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:29,100 time. And I was just like, I will love to go back and 730 00:49:29,370 --> 00:49:32,490 explore. You know that the correlation between those two 731 00:49:32,490 --> 00:49:35,790 happening. There's so much so much more happening than we 732 00:49:35,790 --> 00:49:38,370 probably realized that would be a great documentary and probably 733 00:49:38,370 --> 00:49:43,620 a life a lifetime work to to figure that out. Yeah. So you 734 00:49:43,620 --> 00:49:45,840 can see here now they're recruiting. I mean, just like 735 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,360 when a McDonald's or Starbucks comes to town, you have to have 736 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,090 employees. So we 737 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,560 are now Yep, go to the basketball court and a housing 738 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,850 project. Yeah. And that was the ideal place to recruit. 739 00:50:01,260 --> 00:50:05,490 We can hear more with small town too. And they can't ask No, we 740 00:50:05,490 --> 00:50:09,360 can't say no. Because I don't want to is a lot of people 741 00:50:09,390 --> 00:50:13,890 getting killed, you still fall gang and gone to so I want to do 742 00:50:14,610 --> 00:50:18,150 so they very persistently asked the CEO at the Lagrange housing 743 00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:22,620 authorities jaja heard for a job heard says when she realized why 744 00:50:22,620 --> 00:50:26,580 they wanted work, she hired them on the spot. We've got to find 745 00:50:26,580 --> 00:50:29,850 them something to do. We have to do it. There's just no way I can 746 00:50:29,850 --> 00:50:32,940 just send them back out and potentially be on again. 747 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,660 Sergeant Mark cavinder with the Lagrange gang unit knows the 748 00:50:39,660 --> 00:50:40,950 streets of Lagrange, 749 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,450 pointing out the graffiti and high profile gang areas. 750 00:50:48,750 --> 00:50:51,660 Sergeant cavinder says rural communities are a breeding 751 00:50:51,660 --> 00:50:54,990 ground for well organized criminal street gangs associated 752 00:50:54,990 --> 00:50:58,890 with larger cities in search of existing structure in small 753 00:50:58,890 --> 00:51:02,010 towns. Okay, you've already got the structure in the foundation. 754 00:51:02,610 --> 00:51:05,070 We're going to give you the back end and the support of the 755 00:51:05,070 --> 00:51:08,160 rolling 60. Crips or the power rule blood. Sergeant cavinder 756 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,430 says they also look out for gang members who migrate from other 757 00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:14,760 areas into Georgia and Lagrange they do have their local 758 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,780 leaders. But we do have evidence that suggests that there's 759 00:51:19,350 --> 00:51:22,710 funding as well as reporting back to and even taking orders 760 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,700 from other nationally known gang sets such as the Gangster 761 00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:30,960 Disciples, eight, two bishops. I guess at this point, I'm 762 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:36,120 curious. The gangs that trap gangs all black or they're 763 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,210 Latinos, are they separate gangs? Are they intermingle? 764 00:51:39,210 --> 00:51:42,270 It's I mean, I know it's a lot of questions. But no, no, no, 765 00:51:42,270 --> 00:51:47,580 no, it's great. It's well, the gangs themselves are 766 00:51:47,580 --> 00:51:52,260 neighborhood based. And I want to point that out because when I 767 00:51:52,260 --> 00:51:54,150 graduated in 1999, 768 00:51:55,470 --> 00:52:00,840 I barely knew any people that were in the gangs that we know 769 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,270 Bloods and Crips, it was more neighborhoods. You had Brad 770 00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:08,220 town, wall town, pew gardens, MacDougal terrorist, all these 771 00:52:08,220 --> 00:52:13,410 neighborhoods. But in a year of me going off and coming back to 772 00:52:13,410 --> 00:52:16,830 Durham when I went to college for a year came back. Gangs were 773 00:52:16,860 --> 00:52:20,430 everywhere to the point where Durham little Durham, North 774 00:52:20,430 --> 00:52:22,590 Carolina has two gang documentaries. 775 00:52:25,050 --> 00:52:28,920 That's how fast people come in. And I think this was spread 776 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:33,180 through the federal prison system. Because when you would 777 00:52:33,210 --> 00:52:37,050 get locked up and you get recruited, whatnot, they would 778 00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:39,570 send you all over the place all over the country. And then you 779 00:52:39,570 --> 00:52:43,620 might get locked up in North Carolina and you go to Oklahoma, 780 00:52:44,010 --> 00:52:48,210 and you might meet a guy from California there and he might 781 00:52:48,210 --> 00:52:51,480 have a Connect but he liked what you got to know claim this or 782 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,490 that it's all franchise and you know, bring the franchise back. 783 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,530 You hire Are you employees This is how it works. It's no 784 00:53:01,530 --> 00:53:05,310 different than any other business demonizing now it's 785 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,230 very important business. 786 00:53:08,550 --> 00:53:12,600 Yeah, so you bring your franchise back. say here's your 787 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:18,270 uniforms, you change your chain. Here's your chain and you set up 788 00:53:18,270 --> 00:53:22,920 shop and I think that the federal prison system I 789 00:53:23,970 --> 00:53:29,460 I'm pretty sure spread a lot of gang activity one being because 790 00:53:29,550 --> 00:53:33,090 in button on North Carolina, which is like 20 minutes outside 791 00:53:33,090 --> 00:53:36,870 of Durham is a huge federal penitentiary. 792 00:53:37,890 --> 00:53:42,480 penitentiary Yes. And I think a lot of the gang activity and 793 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,060 Derm came from there so 794 00:53:47,340 --> 00:53:51,600 so yeah, so we ablaze over there small a small town so I'm just 795 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,840 I'm showing that how these things happen in major cities. 796 00:53:54,990 --> 00:53:57,810 I've never owned a shop up I've never understood towns I've 797 00:53:57,810 --> 00:53:59,040 never understood why 798 00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:04,380 prisoners go you know, you can be arrested arraigned, etc. 799 00:54:05,220 --> 00:54:08,220 sentence in North Carolina, but you gotta go serve in a whole 800 00:54:08,220 --> 00:54:11,610 nother state. I've never really known what the purpose of that 801 00:54:11,610 --> 00:54:14,550 was. Besides that you don't have a federal prison in every state. 802 00:54:14,550 --> 00:54:18,720 I understand that. If you want to be nefarious is a great way 803 00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:19,980 to go across. 804 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:28,320 Exactly. This seems like a huge failure on recidivism. Just that 805 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,050 one simple fact putting people in different places where they 806 00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:34,950 meet new new criminal gang members and might decide to set 807 00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:39,870 up shop elsewhere. And I'm going to foreshadow here because one 808 00:54:39,870 --> 00:54:44,400 of the popular documentaries of the early 1990s was a banging in 809 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,180 Little Rock HPL Yeah, I remember that. And in Little Rock, it was 810 00:54:48,180 --> 00:54:51,270 nothing but Bloods and Crips, right and to myself I was baking 811 00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:55,170 powder down. Bloods and Crips get into small little, 812 00:54:56,340 --> 00:55:00,000 little rock. How'd that happen? But we 813 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,860 See later? How I think it happened. Okay. Okay. Yeah, cuz 814 00:55:04,860 --> 00:55:08,370 that was a California gang. I mean New York, they had Bloods 815 00:55:08,370 --> 00:55:12,300 and that kind of thing. But just to see these kind of things 816 00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:15,120 spread it spread through music and I think the federal 817 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,410 penitentiary system, that's just my, my, my perspective, my 818 00:55:19,410 --> 00:55:23,040 perspective. So I guess we can go wrap up with the final clip 819 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,040 from our small town. Investigators say the best 820 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,610 recruiting tools are fear, intimidation, and the chance for 821 00:55:29,610 --> 00:55:34,020 fatherless boys to feel a sense of belonging to kids who have 822 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,590 little to no involved family involvement at home. 823 00:55:38,820 --> 00:55:42,780 You know, these gangs will, will give them that they'll give them 824 00:55:42,780 --> 00:55:45,630 that family feeling that you belong to us as soon as 825 00:55:45,630 --> 00:55:49,200 belonging, Sergeant cavinder says arresting people will not 826 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,830 solve the gang problem. The only way to change the problem is to 827 00:55:52,830 --> 00:55:56,100 change the thinking sports activities and people taking 828 00:55:56,100 --> 00:56:00,870 time with them other than the gangs or the crime side and 829 00:56:00,870 --> 00:56:03,300 mentor them along the way and helping them 830 00:56:05,220 --> 00:56:10,890 help is what these teams got. They keep up the garden, clean 831 00:56:10,890 --> 00:56:15,750 the chicken coop and more stable out Trey Hurd knows there are 832 00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:19,320 other kids out there who need help. And as hard as it is she's 833 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,650 had to turn children away, because they simply do not have 834 00:56:22,650 --> 00:56:26,700 the space we lose them. So that's concerning. Because I've 835 00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:29,820 heard the teacher say these were really three good kids, but we 836 00:56:29,820 --> 00:56:32,970 lost them heard believes there's a lack of programs in the 837 00:56:32,970 --> 00:56:36,360 community and feels that they were more community engagement, 838 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,530 mentoring and education programs in elementary schools, children 839 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,290 would have an alternative but we're hoping to catch up capture 840 00:56:43,290 --> 00:56:46,950 them now at five, six and seven. So when they become a teenager 841 00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:50,040 that desire to be in a gang is not even there to wrap up on the 842 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,490 small town. I like to make a couple of points, one, so I 843 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,660 I was born in Springdale, North Carolina now I moved to Durham 844 00:56:57,660 --> 00:57:00,600 when I was like nine years old. But I will always go back to 845 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,810 spend every summer to stay at my grandparents and my my all my 846 00:57:03,810 --> 00:57:07,200 family center, their uncles still kind of thing. So I would 847 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,050 go back. And I remember when someone when I went back 848 00:57:11,730 --> 00:57:16,620 there was this guy named I just call him s right. So s ki lived 849 00:57:16,620 --> 00:57:20,610 down the street from my art and my living in a low income 850 00:57:20,610 --> 00:57:24,660 neighborhood. And he was like the first in hindsight, the 851 00:57:24,660 --> 00:57:30,150 first drug dealer. I saw up close because him and my brother 852 00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:33,000 went to school, um, when my brother went to school back in 853 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,680 spindle which is a very small town in North Carolina. So when 854 00:57:39,180 --> 00:57:41,190 he like he had a gun and 855 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:47,160 he I mean, cuz I mean, you don't see my handgun. I never forget, 856 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,530 it was a blue nine millimeter. And that was like the most 857 00:57:49,530 --> 00:57:54,900 fascinating thing to me a blue gun, right? So, um, and he had a 858 00:57:55,020 --> 00:58:00,180 CD player and a Mustang and he always bought food for everybody 859 00:58:00,180 --> 00:58:04,590 and everybody loved him. And it's not this. People want to 860 00:58:04,590 --> 00:58:08,100 make it like all they're oppressing the communities. El 861 00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:12,030 Chapo is loved in his community also was john Gotti I mean, the 862 00:58:12,030 --> 00:58:15,510 same thing they these guys were handing out cash to people who 863 00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:17,910 needed it, of course, that that's how you run a successful 864 00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:21,750 criminal organization as syndicated Sure. And I'm gonna 865 00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:24,120 take the alliott handing out cash and I'm going to open on 866 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,600 home with the wrapping up the story. So there was another guy 867 00:58:27,930 --> 00:58:32,340 that, um, you know, participated in the illegal pharmaceutical 868 00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:36,360 trade. And what he would do is so we had this gym that will 869 00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:39,570 open and we miss Mr. Monroe god bless Mr. Brimmer. Oh 870 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,710 breastpiece um, he would open the gym up and that gave kids 871 00:58:43,710 --> 00:58:46,170 something to do our parents were at work or whatever, you 872 00:58:46,170 --> 00:58:50,880 couldn't afford a daycare at his summer camp. Now, you will go to 873 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,390 the gym, play basketball, uno those kind of things for square, 874 00:58:54,570 --> 00:58:57,180 but it was this guy will ride around the whole summer. 875 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,610 He would drop dollars out of his car. And it was like a game. He 876 00:59:02,610 --> 00:59:06,300 would come by drop a handful of dollars out and kids was 877 00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:10,020 scrambled like wildfire like trying to get the dollars. Sure. 878 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,080 And then he'll come back around with the music stuffing. I mean, 879 00:59:13,110 --> 00:59:15,360 just to give you the imagery I just like the ice cream man. 880 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,380 Just a different tune. 881 00:59:17,970 --> 00:59:21,330 And it's funny that you say ice cream man because that is what 882 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,030 Gucci is known for is the ice 883 00:59:25,110 --> 00:59:25,440 cream. 884 00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:29,700 But that was if I didn't have a father like they said in the 885 00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:34,320 previous clip that strong masculine energy being a boy. 886 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,550 Yeah, yeah, draw me horse. You get it from the gang? Sure. Cuz 887 00:59:38,580 --> 00:59:41,940 I'm a 40 year old man and that's still etched into my memory. 888 00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:46,050 Like, how cool is that to be able to ride around and throw 889 00:59:46,050 --> 00:59:51,030 cash out your window and to poor kids. And I'm sure he was like 890 00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:53,730 I'm giving back and I'm looking out and I'm sure he got some 891 00:59:53,730 --> 00:59:57,360 kind of ego boost out of it too. To see kids scramble like that 892 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,970 but it was like this is one of my 893 01:00:00,030 --> 01:00:04,470 childhood memory. So, um, so we're gonna move over now when 894 01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:07,050 we're in urban Atlanta, and we're going to move over to 895 01:00:07,380 --> 01:00:10,560 Buckhead, this is Buckhead church over in Buckhead, and 896 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:17,370 this guy clay scroggins gave a sermon on mind traps, and the 897 01:00:17,370 --> 01:00:22,290 victim mindset. How do you stop these mindsets from becoming 898 01:00:22,290 --> 01:00:25,530 mind traps, no one likes feeling trapped. Can you remember the 899 01:00:25,530 --> 01:00:29,160 last time you were trapped? The problem is we have these 900 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,250 thoughts and our thoughts, fortunately, and unfortunately 901 01:00:32,250 --> 01:00:37,260 can create feelings, feelings, both in the here and now. And 902 01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:40,050 it's not necessarily what happens to you. But it's the 903 01:00:40,050 --> 01:00:43,650 messages that you give yourself about what happens that 904 01:00:43,650 --> 01:00:47,610 determines your feelings. And not only do our thoughts create 905 01:00:47,610 --> 01:00:51,000 all of our feelings, but the thoughts that defeat us are 906 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:56,190 almost always fraudulent, or wrong or distorted or illogical. 907 01:00:56,850 --> 01:01:01,920 And sometimes they can form a cycle, a mentality that becomes 908 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,450 a trap. So how do you know how do you know when a mindset has 909 01:01:06,450 --> 01:01:08,850 become a mind trap? 910 01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:13,080 There's a ancient Greek philosopher named Epictetus who 911 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:18,270 said this, that we are disturbed not by things, but by the view 912 01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:22,170 in which we take them. We think it's the circumstances that are 913 01:01:22,170 --> 01:01:25,200 depicted that are that are disturbing us. But no, it's our 914 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,130 view of them. That's actually disturbing us. Yeah, that's 915 01:01:29,130 --> 01:01:33,600 pretty deep. It took me five decades to kind of figure that 916 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:33,990 out. 917 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:41,460 So easy to live in a mind trap. So if you say that was he's 918 01:01:41,460 --> 01:01:46,770 talking about inside? Yeah. Your inner thoughts. Now say you are 919 01:01:46,770 --> 01:01:52,050 listening to music, and your environment is a trap little 920 01:01:52,050 --> 01:01:52,500 trap. 921 01:01:55,050 --> 01:01:59,070 And you wonder why these kids and young adults get caught up 922 01:01:59,070 --> 01:02:01,830 in this lifestyle? Because like, there's nothing better and this 923 01:02:01,830 --> 01:02:05,400 is what politicians sell to them. Oh, there's no hope out 924 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,220 there. You know, Unless Unless we help you there's no hope. 925 01:02:08,250 --> 01:02:08,640 Sure. 926 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:14,520 So I would play that clip cuz I was like, and he's from Buckhead 927 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,550 Atlanta. I was like, cuz I was looking at mine trap and that 928 01:02:17,550 --> 01:02:20,700 kind of thing. And it popped up and I'm like, Man, I'm gonna say 929 01:02:20,700 --> 01:02:21,480 this to people. 930 01:02:22,620 --> 01:02:27,120 Through this process, would I not? Do the the groundwork for 931 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,940 the clips and everything? It's amazing. 932 01:02:31,140 --> 01:02:33,630 I think it's called synchronicity. Yes. 933 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,720 Of what is the eyes of a Reverend? And Buckhead, Atlanta 934 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,650 and Buckhead and Bankhead that knows have a connotation to it 935 01:02:43,650 --> 01:02:46,860 too, because Bankhead is the hood. Yeah. But my cat is rich 936 01:02:46,860 --> 01:02:50,970 neighborhood. Right? And it was a clip and just to give a just a 937 01:02:50,970 --> 01:02:54,810 mute music low a tidbit of music. There was an outcast 938 01:02:54,810 --> 01:02:57,990 first CD. The guy was like, Yeah, I got these off of the 939 01:02:57,990 --> 01:03:02,940 folks off in Buckhead. So I was like, That's amazing, man. He's 940 01:03:02,940 --> 01:03:07,620 preaching over in the Ritz out Atlanta, about my traps. Yeah, 941 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,760 when you have the actual trap, right across town in Bankhead 942 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,420 and you know, and all the zones in Atlanta, so but I just wanted 943 01:03:15,420 --> 01:03:18,180 I wanted to share that so I know people like I thought he was 944 01:03:18,180 --> 01:03:22,590 going to talk about Jeezy and Gucci. This is the by had to lay 945 01:03:22,620 --> 01:03:23,430 all that out. 946 01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:28,470 So you don't just look at them as rappers entertainers 947 01:03:28,740 --> 01:03:32,550 trivialize them now, just hopefully now people understand 948 01:03:32,550 --> 01:03:36,030 and humanize is what we like to do here. We like to humanize 949 01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:40,380 people and not make them in just a 950 01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:46,830 figureheads. So which which is exactly what almost all media 951 01:03:46,830 --> 01:03:49,230 does, even if they're even if you're trying to do an honest 952 01:03:49,230 --> 01:03:53,520 documentary just that turns it into just the nature of a 953 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,750 documentary turns it into a dehumanizes people strangely 954 01:03:57,750 --> 01:04:03,840 enough All right. So now we get to Jeezy and Gucci so this is 955 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,010 going back to an okay and what we refer to all the meat I 956 01:04:08,010 --> 01:04:09,390 apologize for all the 957 01:04:10,650 --> 01:04:14,880 Mute the music bed I know it's probably killing a lot of people 958 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,840 and I want to strip it out but that just been too much work to 959 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:19,530 try to do it. 960 01:04:20,610 --> 01:04:26,040 So this is going back to the vice series noisy in Atlanta and 961 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,490 this gives us the some some background on Young Jeezy 962 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,320 quality Sound Studios the home of QC label this amigo says 963 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,460 label and it's run by coach Kay, who's there dancing in front of 964 01:04:38,460 --> 01:04:41,850 the console. He is the Migos manager he kind of discovered 965 01:04:41,850 --> 01:04:44,400 them. He's also a Gucci man's manager. And before that he was 966 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,690 Young Jeezy's manager he is sort of like the traphouse impresario 967 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,220 like the Tony Wilson. 968 01:04:53,250 --> 01:04:57,330 I don't think trap music was really born until we put out 969 01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,700 Jesus first mixtape 970 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,530 Which was the street is watching and then we put out traffic. And 971 01:05:04,530 --> 01:05:08,640 I think after that people got Jesus running rapid man. He was 972 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,700 like, awesome CEO shit. He wanted to be masterpiece. He was 973 01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:15,300 a street nigga. It's like he was respected in the streets. Yeah, 974 01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:18,750 think about this. If you put out some white music in the street 975 01:05:18,750 --> 01:05:21,240 has no respect. They're gonna be like, Oh, you want to wrap it? 976 01:05:22,050 --> 01:05:25,290 No, he was rude. You know, they came in a game a millionaire. 977 01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:26,340 I'm not gonna test it. 978 01:05:27,390 --> 01:05:30,570 Well, God never officially signed with BMF he ran with big 979 01:05:30,570 --> 01:05:34,080 Meech and his crew during their heyday in the early 2000s. Pac 980 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:38,790 Man by mafia fan base with a lot of money to tell Jesus you got 981 01:05:38,790 --> 01:05:42,540 to start talking about this shit. Music. Once he understood 982 01:05:42,540 --> 01:05:46,350 how to do that shit. It was always it was the soundtrack to 983 01:05:46,350 --> 01:05:46,920 the streets. 984 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,600 That Jeezy hit that Thug Motivation one on one classic 985 01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:59,790 album, classic album. That was what kind of brought me into 986 01:05:59,790 --> 01:06:05,430 respecting trap music. Because what he did with that album 987 01:06:08,730 --> 01:06:12,810 when you want to say okay, sonically and 988 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:21,090 the level of just quality music, he killed it. I mean, this thing 989 01:06:21,090 --> 01:06:21,750 was 990 01:06:22,950 --> 01:06:27,360 I think onto itself he had the the snowman t shirts, which they 991 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,380 ended up banning. Alright, I remember that. Yeah, that band 992 01:06:31,470 --> 01:06:34,560 came in he had a mixtape follow up saying can't ban this. No, 993 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:39,330 man. It was so widespread. Cooper. Do you familiar 994 01:06:40,530 --> 01:06:44,730 with the album? Yeah, it was mostly shorty read. Um, but 995 01:06:44,730 --> 01:06:47,010 there was a host of other different producers on there. 996 01:06:47,010 --> 01:06:51,330 Well, but the biggest contributor to the atom album 997 01:06:51,330 --> 01:06:55,890 was a shorty shorty read, which that's why I said he had a whole 998 01:06:55,890 --> 01:06:59,880 different brand of trap. And this predates the Gucci man 999 01:07:00,090 --> 01:07:03,780 current trap that we have this really very simplistic. This was 1000 01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:08,670 like a very lush sound bed of Samson. They had the Lowe's and 1001 01:07:08,670 --> 01:07:12,060 it was just a very high quality product, just from the musical 1002 01:07:12,060 --> 01:07:16,320 standpoint of it. And that's what gave trap his credibility 1003 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:23,280 as a legitimate genre. Inside sub genre, it's not a hip hop. 1004 01:07:24,210 --> 01:07:29,520 So So much so that it influence Kendrick Lamar and on Kindle and 1005 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:35,340 Mars good see a good kid mass city. It basically it's a I want 1006 01:07:35,340 --> 01:07:38,850 to say like a maybe like a documentary album. What he does 1007 01:07:38,850 --> 01:07:40,080 is he highlights 1008 01:07:41,490 --> 01:07:45,120 what they call ride and so when you're a kid and you're poor, 1009 01:07:45,660 --> 01:07:46,980 you don't have a lot of money. 1010 01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:55,590 You fill up the car, and you have your favorite CD or two and 1011 01:07:55,620 --> 01:07:57,810 black and mouths maybe some weed 1012 01:07:59,430 --> 01:08:04,890 and you ride and freestyle and and what I did was I was able to 1013 01:08:04,890 --> 01:08:09,450 collect all the skits or some of the skits from that album, and 1014 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,350 we're just gonna listen to him and his friends interact around 1015 01:08:13,350 --> 01:08:16,620 that the motivation one on one album 1016 01:08:20,430 --> 01:08:23,070 pack a bag in a big city get a free sales rep. 1017 01:08:27,480 --> 01:08:28,050 I think he is 1018 01:08:36,060 --> 01:08:36,690 pretty good. 1019 01:08:41,310 --> 01:08:42,480 I think we should push back to 1020 01:08:44,220 --> 01:08:44,640 what 1021 01:08:51,900 --> 01:08:52,950 I'm trying to be the negative 1022 01:08:57,210 --> 01:09:01,740 to kick back as Alibaba way to roll out the commission 1023 01:09:04,620 --> 01:09:05,070 report 1024 01:09:09,210 --> 01:09:10,740 back at the Black Panther 1025 01:09:12,030 --> 01:09:12,390 meetup 1026 01:09:15,780 --> 01:09:16,500 back down 1027 01:09:21,870 --> 01:09:24,750 I can give me a little context of what I would have been seen. 1028 01:09:25,710 --> 01:09:29,760 So I mean, this is audio cuz it's on an album. So what you 1029 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,380 have is a group of friends 1030 01:09:32,580 --> 01:09:36,120 and album he explains it more. So you have a group of friends 1031 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,640 and this is just an everyday conversation, 1032 01:09:39,660 --> 01:09:44,400 conversation and actions. Like I said you get your opinion in the 1033 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,530 reason why I relate to this because this is what it was you 1034 01:09:46,530 --> 01:09:49,290 got some blackened miles you freak them that's where you take 1035 01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:51,720 all the tobacco out and then you take the inner lining out and 1036 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:56,190 then you put put the tobacco back is commonly known as blunt. 1037 01:09:57,150 --> 01:09:59,460 No, but it's not a blunt because you put the tobacco back and 1038 01:09:59,460 --> 01:10:00,000 this is before 1039 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,080 You might you put it this way 1040 01:10:02,669 --> 01:10:06,569 you put it, you take it out, you put it back in, you take it out 1041 01:10:06,629 --> 01:10:10,619 the tobacco and it has this thick inner lining paper inside 1042 01:10:10,619 --> 01:10:13,709 of it, you take that out, and then you put the tobacco back 1043 01:10:13,709 --> 01:10:18,269 in. pools. Daughter. Yeah. And it gives you a head rush. 1044 01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:23,010 And you will smoke like two packs of these I mean, you can 1045 01:10:23,010 --> 01:10:27,000 afford we like that. But this is this is the route so you riding 1046 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:32,100 around and you have beat CDs and, and you freestyle and we 1047 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,890 tada freestyle and you will listen to your alma choice. And 1048 01:10:34,890 --> 01:10:39,180 at that time, like I said, I was maybe 2526 when Jesus came out 1049 01:10:39,180 --> 01:10:42,210 so I was past my rotten days. But I could relate to this. And 1050 01:10:42,210 --> 01:10:45,120 the reason why I played this clip was deep all the way in 1051 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:52,080 Compton, California, and Jeezy in Atlanta, had an influence on 1052 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:59,490 him and his career by this album, so much so that he, um, 1053 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:04,950 let it be known and this skips to this classic album, good kid 1054 01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:08,910 Man City. So I'm just gonna I'm showing you how I got it. I got 1055 01:11:08,910 --> 01:11:12,660 lost but right. Like I said, last time I checked, I was the 1056 01:11:12,660 --> 01:11:15,630 man on the streets that was like a quotable. So when you get a 1057 01:11:15,630 --> 01:11:18,210 hip hop, quotable. That's like scripture. 1058 01:11:19,470 --> 01:11:22,890 Yeah, I mean, that that there's no other way to put that slide. 1059 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:27,540 You've you've provided scripture to the hip hop. Culture. Yeah, 1060 01:11:27,540 --> 01:11:30,690 you're saying that wasn't one of the many. That was one of the 1061 01:11:30,690 --> 01:11:34,770 many quotables from that album. And his ad libs. I mean was 1062 01:11:34,770 --> 01:11:39,900 crazy. Like Yeah, you're saying so anyway, so I'm getting caught 1063 01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:41,220 up so anyway. 1064 01:11:42,630 --> 01:11:46,470 Yeah, cuz i mean it's it's nostalgic for me um, but 1065 01:11:47,730 --> 01:11:50,100 we're gonna get to the background of Jeezy and 1066 01:11:51,180 --> 01:11:55,980 Gucci man s'mores that was Jesus comment somewhat back I'm a bio 1067 01:11:56,010 --> 01:11:59,220 so we're getting to a Gucci man's now. When did Gucci man 1068 01:11:59,220 --> 01:12:02,220 start coming around to see at the same time he's at the same 1069 01:12:02,220 --> 01:12:06,540 time I want to just record again he walks up on say you Coach K. 1070 01:12:06,990 --> 01:12:08,550 I'm like he said I'm Gucci man. 1071 01:12:09,570 --> 01:12:12,390 I'm the guy you've been looking for. With Jeezy at the top of 1072 01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:15,870 his game Gucci man the up and coming era parents. Coach K 1073 01:12:15,870 --> 01:12:18,600 decided to put the two together in the studio to work on a song 1074 01:12:19,410 --> 01:12:23,310 a song we all know as though I see a studio that man I swear to 1075 01:12:23,310 --> 01:12:25,140 god he sung that hook so I see 1076 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,870 a hook all day. I told you man like let's try this shit. You 1077 01:12:30,870 --> 01:12:33,330 know I'm saying this shit might be crazy. This hook is melodic 1078 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,640 you know. So then zaytoven comes in 1079 01:12:39,450 --> 01:12:42,300 Beethoven is one of the first of Atlanta's super producers and 1080 01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:46,020 the principal architect of the trap music sound when I first 1081 01:12:46,020 --> 01:12:49,200 came here when I got my first hit the so icy with Gucci man 1082 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:53,250 and Young Jeezy. It was very Bay influenced because I was just 1083 01:12:53,250 --> 01:12:56,250 moving from you know, the Bay Area. So if you listen to the 1084 01:12:56,250 --> 01:12:58,650 music if you like that don't sound like no producer that came 1085 01:12:58,650 --> 01:13:01,260 out of Atlanta. You know, I mean, cuz I was fresh out of the 1086 01:13:01,260 --> 01:13:04,440 Bay Area. I was cutting here at the barbershop Gucci man called 1087 01:13:04,440 --> 01:13:07,560 me like a man as a Young Jeezy. Wanna do a song with us? I 1088 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:11,130 haven't made a beat. So I ran home made him at my mom's house 1089 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,250 made the beat in like five minutes. And then we went down 1090 01:13:14,250 --> 01:13:17,070 to the studio to meet Young Jeezy. You know, I'm from the 1091 01:13:17,070 --> 01:13:20,310 Bay steel so I don't even know if a woman like my beat. So when 1092 01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:23,130 we play the beat, they didn't even wasn't even feeling it for 1093 01:13:23,130 --> 01:13:28,230 you until after the doula wheels on the hook. You know, the audio 1094 01:13:28,230 --> 01:13:32,010 good is that was used to her dad and to be going together. Then 1095 01:13:32,010 --> 01:13:34,680 you start looking around a studio. Everybody in the studio 1096 01:13:34,710 --> 01:13:36,900 got a pen and paper trying to write and get on the 1097 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:46,800 mat. So this is where Jeezy and Gucci mans up paths cross with 1098 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:52,230 this classic song so icy, which they had never performed live 1099 01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:59,550 into the verses. That's why this was such a big deal. And you're 1100 01:13:59,550 --> 01:14:03,510 probably wondering, why did they never perform this online? Yes, 1101 01:14:03,510 --> 01:14:08,040 Mo. Why did they never perform this song? Well, so I have this 1102 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:12,690 next set of five clips. And this was done by this suburban kid I 1103 01:14:12,690 --> 01:14:16,470 forget the name of his channel. I'm sorry about that. But reason 1104 01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:22,950 why I chose him to tell the story is because this shows how 1105 01:14:23,580 --> 01:14:28,140 street happenings make it into white suburban America. So I 1106 01:14:28,140 --> 01:14:29,520 wanted that perspective. 1107 01:14:30,810 --> 01:14:36,660 To explain what the real story behind Gucci man and Jeezy. It's 1108 01:14:36,660 --> 01:14:40,410 1998 and Roderick Davis, better known by his rap name Gucci Mane 1109 01:14:40,410 --> 01:14:43,980 is 18 years old and he's about to graduate high school. He was 1110 01:14:43,980 --> 01:14:46,350 selling weed and cocaine to make money and decided to go to 1111 01:14:46,350 --> 01:14:49,440 college because he qualified for a scholarship. He continue to 1112 01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:51,960 make money and sometimes would record songs to mess around in 1113 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,410 the studio mostly as a hobby. After going to college for about 1114 01:14:55,410 --> 01:14:57,810 a year doing computer programming. He would get caught 1115 01:14:57,810 --> 01:14:59,970 selling cocaine to an undercover police officer 1116 01:15:00,599 --> 01:15:04,409 He was given 90 days and probation. He lost a lot of his 1117 01:15:04,409 --> 01:15:07,229 money and was kicked out of school losing his scholarship. 1118 01:15:07,499 --> 01:15:09,929 He had some time to think about if this is what he wanted to do 1119 01:15:09,959 --> 01:15:13,439 or something else. Upon finishing his son's college, he 1120 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,109 decided he should just release a mixtape since he was already 1121 01:15:16,109 --> 01:15:19,589 getting good at it, and he's been rapping since he was 14. To 1122 01:15:19,589 --> 01:15:22,349 use the little money he had left to finish the tape titled Gucci 1123 01:15:22,349 --> 01:15:26,009 Mane the flair presented by straight drop records. He 1124 01:15:26,009 --> 01:15:28,919 slapped them on 1000 CDs and passed them all over Atlanta. 1125 01:15:29,069 --> 01:15:31,079 This will work out extremely well for Gucci because he 1126 01:15:31,079 --> 01:15:34,319 started gaining buzz pretty fast. He saw an opportunity and 1127 01:15:34,319 --> 01:15:37,019 decided he wanted to start his own label where he would recruit 1128 01:15:37,019 --> 01:15:40,469 other artists as well. Around 2001 he met a barber named 1129 01:15:40,499 --> 01:15:43,349 Xavier because one of Gucci's homies attended the same barber 1130 01:15:43,349 --> 01:15:46,109 class is Xavier made beats and was trying to make a name for 1131 01:15:46,109 --> 01:15:48,599 himself as well under the names they Tobin 1132 01:15:50,130 --> 01:15:51,630 So a couple things one 1133 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:57,360 zaytoven By the way, so recognizable when you hear that 1134 01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:02,040 it's like oh shit and zaytoven to what what is the the 1135 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,670 distribution method? So you got the mixtapes and I remember this 1136 01:16:05,670 --> 01:16:07,890 being a big deal, man, this guy's me everyone's got this 1137 01:16:07,890 --> 01:16:08,370 mixtape. 1138 01:16:10,410 --> 01:16:13,530 What, what is the commercial distribution method? At what 1139 01:16:13,530 --> 01:16:16,800 point? Do you start making money with your music? Is that only 1140 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:17,430 when you get 1141 01:16:19,230 --> 01:16:23,670 a distribution deal from from a label? Or does everyone try to 1142 01:16:23,670 --> 01:16:26,370 go and start a label themselves? Or I mean, it's just 1143 01:16:27,450 --> 01:16:30,810 I would rephrase the question. How is it consumed? Is this 1144 01:16:30,810 --> 01:16:32,340 music mainly consumed? 1145 01:16:33,570 --> 01:16:34,650 in the neighborhoods? 1146 01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:40,530 On handouts, CDs, mixtapes, etc? Or is everyone running Spotify? 1147 01:16:40,590 --> 01:16:43,050 You know, or is that or is that when it goes mainstream? And 1148 01:16:43,050 --> 01:16:44,970 that's when the rest of the world and that's where the real 1149 01:16:44,970 --> 01:16:47,220 money comes in? Do you understand what I'm asking? So 1150 01:16:47,220 --> 01:16:50,370 yes, so this is pre YouTube whenever you 1151 01:16:51,450 --> 01:16:55,290 want to understand smartphone boom, really changed things. And 1152 01:16:55,290 --> 01:16:58,530 this is pre smartphone. So people weren't getting online 1153 01:16:58,530 --> 01:17:03,960 and listening to YouTube or SoundCloud existed at that time, 1154 01:17:04,170 --> 01:17:07,980 the main method of distribution was the trunk of your car, 1155 01:17:08,010 --> 01:17:10,890 right. And that was the turn of the trunk he was saying stepping 1156 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,580 out the trunk, which was popular last by none other than the 1157 01:17:14,580 --> 01:17:17,310 great masterpiece which we got to put some respect On 1158 01:17:17,310 --> 01:17:21,600 masterpiece name. Because he show all these young guys, you 1159 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,560 don't need a record label. Go straight to the customer and 1160 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,580 wanted wanna come in give you hip hop quotable here. He says 1161 01:17:29,820 --> 01:17:34,650 15% can't even pay my mF and rent. That's what masterpiece 1162 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,890 told him. Like the little money that the record labels are 1163 01:17:37,890 --> 01:17:41,790 trying to give you all this bull crap. This is. So two things 1164 01:17:41,790 --> 01:17:47,220 one, beautiful, because that's exactly what we know. 1165 01:17:48,420 --> 01:17:51,990 With our value for value model. And the other part is, it's a 1166 01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:55,860 total call back ironically, to how the record business started. 1167 01:17:56,100 --> 01:18:00,750 In the 50s. Commercial top 40 radio, it started with people 1168 01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,680 selling records out of the trunk of their car at gigs anywhere 1169 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,730 they could do it. It's it's an interesting throwback. But it 1170 01:18:08,730 --> 01:18:11,040 was not lost in the south because you had the chitlin 1171 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:16,320 circuit. Yes, they have a network of clubs. And of course 1172 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,190 the clubs changed but the influence was don't. And if you 1173 01:18:20,190 --> 01:18:23,160 were able to get a buzz, then you can start doing shows at 1174 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:29,460 these clubs. And this shows the entrepreneurial spirit of these 1175 01:18:29,460 --> 01:18:33,720 talented individuals. See everybody wants to paint them 1176 01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:38,970 out to be at service dogs or whatever else is like no is 1177 01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:42,960 Jeezy was. I mean, I legit millionaire 1178 01:18:43,980 --> 01:18:47,940 before he even got into rap. coochie man was a scholarship 1179 01:18:47,940 --> 01:18:50,370 student and a coder. Yeah. 1180 01:18:54,420 --> 01:19:00,210 Yeah. So this, if it had other routes, there will be 1181 01:19:02,940 --> 01:19:06,720 stars and that is just like this is the only thing you had in 1182 01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:11,850 this. You know, this is when the CD a CD ROM came out the 1183 01:19:11,850 --> 01:19:15,120 rewritable CD ROM first came out so that changed everything 1184 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,880 because it's like now you don't need to buy it actually prints 1185 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:22,470 tapes or prints albums. You know, you could buy a thing was 1186 01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:26,160 like the one that used to print like 10 CDs at a time. Like for 1187 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:30,810 like $500 if you had one of those, and then you go by a 1188 01:19:30,810 --> 01:19:34,620 computer and able to record your music and a clause I'm speaking 1189 01:19:34,620 --> 01:19:38,220 from man, I'm telling you hotel personal experience. hotep Jesus 1190 01:19:38,220 --> 01:19:41,280 has the right idea by getting Bitcoin into this community. 1191 01:19:41,550 --> 01:19:44,400 He's got the right idea. Yeah. 1192 01:19:45,450 --> 01:19:50,070 Yeah, that's exactly what it is, is whenever you give us 1193 01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:52,860 something and I just one little small tangent, 1194 01:19:53,940 --> 01:19:55,140 whenever you give 1195 01:19:56,850 --> 01:19:58,830 black people quote unquote with pips 1196 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,870 Anything we turn it into something else you got to think 1197 01:20:03,870 --> 01:20:08,250 about it spinning yarn. My brother the beat machine was not 1198 01:20:08,250 --> 01:20:11,340 made for what it was used for the turntables was not made what 1199 01:20:11,340 --> 01:20:15,000 it was used for. The sampler was not made what it was used for. 1200 01:20:15,420 --> 01:20:18,180 is like we take these tools and like you know what we can flip 1201 01:20:18,180 --> 01:20:22,260 it bounce it and create something totally different even 1202 01:20:22,260 --> 01:20:26,610 the vocoder same auto tune as we call it now. Yes. Yeah. The auto 1203 01:20:26,610 --> 01:20:30,540 tune Yeah. Oh, the NOAA itself was a different piece of 1204 01:20:30,540 --> 01:20:33,480 equipment. And they showed up in you know, series 1205 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,740 around it past 20 years old or something. Next thing came up, 1206 01:20:37,740 --> 01:20:41,550 right? Yeah. But they showed up in posh shops and we're easily 1207 01:20:41,550 --> 01:20:44,970 affordable but that's why I became the weapon of choice for 1208 01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:49,680 a bedroom producers. Yep, cuz it's something that the original 1209 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:54,000 what it was originally meant for. It was but it was a this is 1210 01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,930 cheap like this. What you see in a great example was um, hustle 1211 01:20:57,930 --> 01:21:03,570 and flow. That's, that's a perfect example of how hip hop 1212 01:21:03,570 --> 01:21:08,460 careers was start is a couple pieces of equipment microphone. 1213 01:21:08,970 --> 01:21:14,190 Boom. You often you often one, but we continue on with the 1214 01:21:14,190 --> 01:21:18,210 story of the real, real Gucci man and Young Jeezy Part Two 1215 01:21:18,330 --> 01:21:22,410 around the same time in 2001 Jay Jenkins, who was known as low j 1216 01:21:22,650 --> 01:21:25,200 has just stepped into the GA scene and was gaining buzz as 1217 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,960 well. Much like Gucci Mane he spent the last few years trying 1218 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,810 to build a label. Though Jay was in deep in the streets selling 1219 01:21:30,810 --> 01:21:33,660 weed and cocaine. He was said to have over a million cash before 1220 01:21:33,660 --> 01:21:36,600 ever considering music. He had a ton of money and was always 1221 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,540 interested in music, but initially never wanted to rap. 1222 01:21:39,630 --> 01:21:42,780 After a few run ins with the law and having a new baby. He wanted 1223 01:21:42,780 --> 01:21:45,720 to focus more on his label and began building a studio where he 1224 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,900 could manage artists under he would sign his first few artists 1225 01:21:48,930 --> 01:21:51,750 and start the label Young Guns entertainment. This was going 1226 01:21:51,750 --> 01:21:54,480 good for a while but eventually their main artists would catch a 1227 01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:57,480 murder case and get locked up leaving no real talent to lead 1228 01:21:57,480 --> 01:22:00,570 the way. He had dropped a ton of money in his studio and into his 1229 01:22:00,570 --> 01:22:03,570 artists so he wasn't going to let it go to waste. He changed 1230 01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:06,600 his label name to CT and he decided to start rapping as the 1231 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,420 main artist. He dropped his first tape thuggin under the 1232 01:22:09,420 --> 01:22:12,420 influence in 2001, which featured little john is a 1233 01:22:12,420 --> 01:22:16,020 producer and an immediately got a small fan base. Since little 1234 01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:18,900 Jay had drug money to fund his tapes and new people and music. 1235 01:22:18,930 --> 01:22:21,240 He would get all his music played at every strip club in 1236 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,120 Atlanta, which back then was a massive way to get your music 1237 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,760 heard. He went around Atlanta getting his music played over 1238 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,310 the next couple months. He decided to change his name to 1239 01:22:29,310 --> 01:22:32,100 Young Jeezy and continue to drop back to back mixtapes like 1240 01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:35,520 Trapper die with DJ drama until solidifying himself in the 1241 01:22:35,550 --> 01:22:39,480 Atlanta rap scene. He did this until 2004, when Def Jam signed 1242 01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:42,240 him for a massive amount of money. With gucci mane and Jeezy 1243 01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,060 leading the way in Atlanta wrap, it was only inevitable that a 1244 01:22:45,060 --> 01:22:46,170 collab would come soon. 1245 01:22:47,580 --> 01:22:50,940 Nice, good stories like this, I want to I want to take this, I 1246 01:22:50,940 --> 01:22:53,280 want to take this time to point out this is the reason why 1247 01:22:53,310 --> 01:22:56,610 atonement is needed. I know people say Oh, here he goes. 1248 01:22:58,830 --> 01:23:04,890 These young men has to resort to a legal activity to get the 1249 01:23:04,890 --> 01:23:08,010 starter money up for what they really want it to do. 1250 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:13,590 It's a bunch of young men out here that have great ideas, but 1251 01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:16,440 don't have the capital to get it off the ground. 1252 01:23:17,700 --> 01:23:21,540 Well, allow me to say something about that. Yes, you're right. 1253 01:23:22,230 --> 01:23:26,940 On the other hand, having come from, well, I, I'm certainly 1254 01:23:26,940 --> 01:23:31,620 middle class, upper middle class. But having left home and 1255 01:23:31,620 --> 01:23:34,710 school etc. to 1256 01:23:35,820 --> 01:23:41,190 build that starting capital yourself. Now, obviously, drugs, 1257 01:23:41,220 --> 01:23:44,760 maybe not the best way it's a faster way the the payoff can be 1258 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:49,800 much higher the risk, you know, the risk reward situation. But 1259 01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:53,640 so that I'm responding to this because you say atonement. 1260 01:23:54,930 --> 01:23:58,740 It's a very different thing for an entrepreneur to start and 1261 01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,460 scrape those first few dollars together and build and build and 1262 01:24:02,460 --> 01:24:05,850 build and build and it it's more than just the capital that you 1263 01:24:05,850 --> 01:24:09,300 build the you can do what you really want to do with it. It's 1264 01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:13,230 the process and the appreciation for hard work making smart 1265 01:24:13,230 --> 01:24:15,570 decisions, whether the activities legal or illegal 1266 01:24:15,570 --> 01:24:20,010 doesn't matter. Right. So I would say just so we're clear 1267 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:25,080 from my standpoint, yeah. This is a crap way that there's no 1268 01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:30,180 other or that apparently no are no other avenues to do that. 1269 01:24:30,210 --> 01:24:33,810 Yes, that's the key word right horse parently. So I'm not 1270 01:24:33,810 --> 01:24:36,390 currently I'm not saying that this should be handouts is what 1271 01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:38,460 I'm saying. It's like just because someone has a great 1272 01:24:38,460 --> 01:24:41,730 idea. A toman doesn't mean handout. I think we're no we 1273 01:24:41,730 --> 01:24:44,910 agree on that. Right? What I'm saying is if they had the 1274 01:24:44,910 --> 01:24:48,120 capital to start a business, then they wouldn't have to 1275 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,390 start. Go here. Now. Well, I want to make you a great point. 1276 01:24:51,390 --> 01:24:55,200 That's why I run the bill. Apparently. So we're talking 1277 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,890 about people that are stuck in this mind trap. of this is the 1278 01:24:58,920 --> 01:24:59,970 only way to do it. 1279 01:25:00,510 --> 01:25:03,360 This is what you've been told this is the only way to dare you 1280 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,150 go. And this is this is what they say about getting it from 1281 01:25:06,150 --> 01:25:10,650 the mud. You know, you have to get in there and get it from the 1282 01:25:10,650 --> 01:25:14,340 ground up. And we you tell people were the only way you 1283 01:25:14,340 --> 01:25:18,210 could, um, another quarter, we had to get a call to 1284 01:25:19,230 --> 01:25:23,610 be honest, this show is for me today. I'm loving it. I'm loving 1285 01:25:23,610 --> 01:25:26,310 it birthday show, this is a birthday. This is a birthday 1286 01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:29,640 shout to myself because this is a hip hop show. Not that the hip 1287 01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:35,310 hop show. But this the shares a lot of a lot of what makes me so 1288 01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:38,610 because I went through that not the drug selling part because I 1289 01:25:38,610 --> 01:25:40,980 understood the bigger implication that it was a trap. 1290 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,880 And it's like, those odds are not in my favor. No to you know, 1291 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,870 make out flawlessly. And that's why these guys are celebrated. 1292 01:25:49,290 --> 01:25:54,480 Because we you beat the system, no matter what the system is. 1293 01:25:55,050 --> 01:25:58,530 These kids look at you like of course. Of course. Of course 1294 01:25:58,530 --> 01:26:02,010 you're here. Oh, sure. All right, right. So and the reason 1295 01:26:02,010 --> 01:26:06,630 why I'm saying about capital is Mikey said you to get the 1296 01:26:06,660 --> 01:26:10,710 producers to pay beats and studio time, it wasn't like it 1297 01:26:10,710 --> 01:26:14,070 wasn't is now where you had to actually I mean, you couldn't, 1298 01:26:14,370 --> 01:26:18,240 the equipment and quality of recording at home is nowhere 1299 01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,900 near what it is now that the quality of music that you can 1300 01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:26,520 get out. So and with paella, which you're familiar with, I 1301 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:31,440 was interested. So because I've read about it, not that I've 1302 01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:33,390 received it. No, no, no, no. 1303 01:26:34,590 --> 01:26:37,710 No, what I'm saying that is a root. Of course, it's a real 1304 01:26:37,710 --> 01:26:42,300 thing. But it it just to be clear, the payola stuff is 1305 01:26:42,300 --> 01:26:47,010 rarely as RIT was rarely ever cash maybe back in the 50s it's 1306 01:26:47,010 --> 01:26:50,280 always perks it's 1307 01:26:51,480 --> 01:26:54,150 if you're if the station is corrupt, and the station will 1308 01:26:54,150 --> 01:26:58,680 get advertising buys or so called independent promoter will 1309 01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:03,330 put on an entire show for the station in the stations name and 1310 01:27:03,330 --> 01:27:08,100 will actually pay the artists and will only take a small cut 1311 01:27:08,100 --> 01:27:12,180 to the station actually makes money with zero investment. Now, 1312 01:27:12,210 --> 01:27:17,760 these are all parts of the payola scheme no pay cash. And 1313 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:22,350 in this industry over here, it was straight up cash. I'm not 1314 01:27:22,350 --> 01:27:25,080 speaking on something I've heard this is something I know 1315 01:27:25,350 --> 01:27:30,570 especially for those DJs that play like the late night window 1316 01:27:31,140 --> 01:27:34,650 where they had a little bit more freedom what they could play. It 1317 01:27:34,650 --> 01:27:37,470 was me I'm talking about the urban radio station is cuz I 1318 01:27:37,500 --> 01:27:41,700 like from like 12 to like five in the morning. No, I mean, do 1319 01:27:41,700 --> 01:27:46,710 you play what you really want to play? So w BLS Frankie Crocker 1320 01:27:47,190 --> 01:27:52,350 price you can shake a hand and slot a couple of $100 in like 1321 01:27:52,350 --> 01:27:56,010 get your stuff on the radio and then the other pay all the way 1322 01:27:56,010 --> 01:27:58,380 outside when I say pale I'm not just speaking about radio 1323 01:27:58,380 --> 01:28:00,960 stations. They alluded to strip clubs, right? 1324 01:28:02,430 --> 01:28:10,020 You can slide the DJ you know a couple 100 567 $1,000 and he 1325 01:28:10,020 --> 01:28:13,140 will he will play your music and then club and if the strippers 1326 01:28:13,140 --> 01:28:17,520 dance to it and this is why the relationship between the strip 1327 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:21,360 club and trap music is so strong and this is why you're seeing 1328 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,910 strippers be legitimate 1329 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:25,800 legitimate 1330 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,180 under Trap Music air under the under the trap music era because 1331 01:28:30,180 --> 01:28:33,960 they go hand in hand yeah got it. That's your your test market 1332 01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:38,460 as well as your your Launchpad not even test market. Yeah, it 1333 01:28:38,460 --> 01:28:41,010 was more of the launch pad because it's I mean, if the 1334 01:28:41,010 --> 01:28:45,150 girls didn't dance to it, then you knew your track suck. What 1335 01:28:45,150 --> 01:28:49,050 That's true, but then if you end up making what they call a 1336 01:28:49,050 --> 01:28:52,800 movie, and that's the track this plan at all. Let me go find out 1337 01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:56,760 who that was. And I'll go you know, in Are you in the parking 1338 01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,790 lot, but that was my song. You know, you sell not to Trump. So 1339 01:28:59,790 --> 01:29:03,780 I'm just I just want to point that out that this is the hurdle 1340 01:29:03,900 --> 01:29:08,010 and I want to make it clear one time we're talking about in the 1341 01:29:08,010 --> 01:29:15,420 mind trap. Oh, this is my only way out. Yeah. That is the that 1342 01:29:15,420 --> 01:29:19,440 is the real crime here. Yeah, of tricking young people into 1343 01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:22,590 believing that there's only one there's only two ways sports are 1344 01:29:22,590 --> 01:29:27,660 this. Well, that's another quotable Notorious BIG ad you 1345 01:29:27,660 --> 01:29:32,100 got us a slang rot or you got a wicked jump shot. Yeah. 1346 01:29:33,210 --> 01:29:39,180 I mean, that's that's pretty much the mentality that is like 1347 01:29:39,180 --> 01:29:43,950 sewn in and in you know, the, quote, quote, unquote, urban 1348 01:29:43,950 --> 01:29:48,840 community, so we can move on. And now we I think we stopped at 1349 01:29:48,990 --> 01:29:52,710 three I believe. With gucci mane and Jeezy leading the way and 1350 01:29:52,710 --> 01:29:55,230 Atlanta rap. It was only inevitable that a collab would 1351 01:29:55,230 --> 01:29:58,920 come soon. In 2005, Gucci Mane and Jeezy would record two songs 1352 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,000 together the first time 1353 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,210 was black teas, which was a response to disenfranchise boys 1354 01:30:03,210 --> 01:30:08,490 hit song YT and the second song was so icy or just icy, so I see 1355 01:30:08,490 --> 01:30:11,160 what go crazy in the streets almost immediately, and would 1356 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,460 then be featured as the main single on traphouse one. The 1357 01:30:14,460 --> 01:30:16,950 song was such a massive hit that even high schools across the 1358 01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:20,070 country banned the iconic snowman t that Jeezy wore in the 1359 01:30:20,070 --> 01:30:23,160 video. As time went on. rumors surfaced that Jeezy may have 1360 01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:26,250 been upset with how things went. Although it's still not 100% 1361 01:30:26,250 --> 01:30:29,010 clear why Jeezy was upset, we can assume it has something to 1362 01:30:29,010 --> 01:30:31,560 do with the fact that he wanted the song to be on his upcoming 1363 01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,380 album, he quickly took to the studio to release a diss track 1364 01:30:34,380 --> 01:30:36,960 titled stay strapped where at the end of the song he would put 1365 01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,720 a $10,000 bounty on Gucci so icy chain 1366 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,310 Jeezy would start to distance himself from Gucci and cause 1367 01:30:47,310 --> 01:30:50,070 some strain on their friendship. Gucci would also get upset at 1368 01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:52,770 the fact they could never perform their song live, which 1369 01:30:52,770 --> 01:30:55,200 he felt they were missing out on a huge part of promotion. 1370 01:30:55,440 --> 01:30:58,200 Because once again, this isn't the days where live shows made a 1371 01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,050 huge impact on getting your music heard. But Jeezy didn't 1372 01:31:01,050 --> 01:31:04,320 stop and he continued to be. Over the coming weeks the petty 1373 01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,380 beef would turn into something much more. One summer evening 1374 01:31:07,380 --> 01:31:10,170 Gucci would go home with the stripper after a party. Just a 1375 01:31:10,170 --> 01:31:13,200 month after the spicy hit dropped. Five men stormed the 1376 01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,960 home where coochie was saying armed with pistols brass 1377 01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,390 knuckles and duct tape. They were getting into a physical 1378 01:31:18,390 --> 01:31:21,240 altercation pistol whipping the stripper and hitting Gucci in 1379 01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:25,500 the face. One of the men allegedly yelled shoot him. Wow. 1380 01:31:25,980 --> 01:31:29,310 So this was the bounty for the chain. Damn. This is where the 1381 01:31:29,310 --> 01:31:30,600 chain comes in. 1382 01:31:32,460 --> 01:31:36,450 Two parts murder with allegedly sitting around are centered 1383 01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:40,200 around a chain because somebody tried to snatch his death row 1384 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:44,220 chain. Right. And that's the footage you see in any other 1385 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:45,780 closed circuit. 1386 01:31:48,090 --> 01:31:51,360 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, cuz they'll death row chains. Like I said, 1387 01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,990 Every crew had a chain. And it's kind of like Capture the Flag, 1388 01:31:55,050 --> 01:32:00,750 if you want it to. And you even see it to this day is capture 1389 01:32:00,750 --> 01:32:04,440 the flag and then now they go on social media and show it all aha 1390 01:32:04,440 --> 01:32:07,290 got your chain? You know, do you have to pay a ransom to get it 1391 01:32:07,290 --> 01:32:09,570 back? And that's like the one of the most disrespectful things 1392 01:32:09,570 --> 01:32:12,900 like because for somebody to take your chain off of you. They 1393 01:32:12,900 --> 01:32:17,130 had to be close to you. Yeah. And what it represents is like I 1394 01:32:17,130 --> 01:32:21,630 can walk into anywhere I own you know what it means I own you. 1395 01:32:21,660 --> 01:32:27,330 Yeah, I got 20 bucks to walk around with that kind of jewelry 1396 01:32:27,330 --> 01:32:32,940 on 2030 $50,000 worth of jewelry in one chain. And like, you 1397 01:32:32,940 --> 01:32:35,880 know, you don't have to tuck it because that's like the I mean, 1398 01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,420 that's what Friday you remember Friday, when I read forgot the 1399 01:32:39,420 --> 01:32:42,870 tuchis chain and Bebo took it from him. I mean, this is these 1400 01:32:42,870 --> 01:32:47,160 are real, real life applications you see in movies, but yeah, 1401 01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,730 getting your chain smashes by one of the most disrespectful 1402 01:32:50,730 --> 01:32:53,340 things that can happen to you. So I don't want I don't want to 1403 01:32:53,340 --> 01:32:55,170 belabor the point. I know we're probably running. You know, 1404 01:32:55,170 --> 01:32:59,490 we've been very conversational. I, honestly, I really love this. 1405 01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:03,420 I don't care how I got all Saturday and Sunday morning, 1406 01:33:03,420 --> 01:33:06,690 brother, I can keep going this is great. Because it's it's a 1407 01:33:06,690 --> 01:33:12,330 side of music, that while I was kind of doing other things at 1408 01:33:12,330 --> 01:33:12,930 the time, 1409 01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,010 but all of these things that you're talking about, I recall 1410 01:33:17,010 --> 01:33:19,140 or I remember some bits and pieces of 1411 01:33:21,900 --> 01:33:24,420 and from an MTV guy perspective. 1412 01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:27,150 You know, 1413 01:33:28,530 --> 01:33:32,310 there was a very different view of hip hop into this day, I 1414 01:33:32,310 --> 01:33:35,010 would say a very different view of hip hop from the mainstream 1415 01:33:35,010 --> 01:33:38,670 media perspective, which is probably the one I'm more more 1416 01:33:38,670 --> 01:33:42,570 familiar with. Because it's number one single dad rapper 1417 01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,030 number one single dad, that's the only way you get attention 1418 01:33:45,030 --> 01:33:49,620 for crossover. ads. Yeah, you get a Pepsi ad and those big 1419 01:33:49,620 --> 01:33:53,580 companies like latch on to you but nobody really. And I'll say 1420 01:33:53,580 --> 01:33:55,020 this, then we can jump right in the four. 1421 01:33:56,160 --> 01:34:01,560 This is pertinent because you're seeing dead rappers pop up now. 1422 01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:03,690 mode three, 1423 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:09,210 King Vaughn, and a host of other names or rappers. They're being 1424 01:34:09,210 --> 01:34:10,260 gunned down 1425 01:34:11,550 --> 01:34:17,850 right now, and some overtrained steel. So it's not like we're 1426 01:34:17,850 --> 01:34:20,310 doing a history lesson. This is a 1427 01:34:22,110 --> 01:34:26,880 peek inside peek inside of what's really going on now. So 1428 01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,760 with that say I guess we can go and jump into four upon 1429 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,060 realizing his life was at risk. coochie Shopback. Some people 1430 01:34:33,060 --> 01:34:35,670 say he reached for his gun, where other stories say he may 1431 01:34:35,670 --> 01:34:39,120 have disarmed one of the men and took his he shot the gun killing 1432 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,510 one of the men as the others ran off three days would go by until 1433 01:34:42,510 --> 01:34:45,240 someone found the body of the deceased man in the woods behind 1434 01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,970 the elementary school. When the smoke cleared, authorities 1435 01:34:47,970 --> 01:34:51,390 identified the man as pooky lock one of Jesus prodigies under a 1436 01:34:51,390 --> 01:34:54,960 CTE label. After nine days Gucci Mane will turn himself in 1437 01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,900 claiming self defense. He released a statement saying he's 1438 01:34:57,900 --> 01:34:59,970 not a murderer, but he was scared for his life. 1439 01:35:00,359 --> 01:35:03,479 He had to be a man about it. The case would later be dismissed 1440 01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:06,449 after his eyewitness confirm that Gucci acted in self defense 1441 01:35:06,449 --> 01:35:09,869 when five men tried to rob him, going forward Jeezy was still 1442 01:35:09,869 --> 01:35:13,049 deny any involvement with divani. Despite pooky lock being 1443 01:35:13,049 --> 01:35:16,049 directly tied to him in a CT level, Gucci Mane would go 1444 01:35:16,049 --> 01:35:19,109 public saying he suffered from PTSD from this event, and we'll 1445 01:35:19,109 --> 01:35:22,199 shoot jabs about it in his raps He was later one of the most 1446 01:35:22,199 --> 01:35:23,969 famous lines he stated was this 1447 01:35:29,130 --> 01:35:33,900 to continue this feud for over 15 years until November 19 2020, 1448 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,020 where they were put in the same room as each other in 2020, 1449 01:35:37,050 --> 01:35:40,110 during the World pandemic of COVID-19. Record producers, 1450 01:35:40,110 --> 01:35:43,140 Timberland and Swizz Beatz would start a webcast series titled 1451 01:35:43,140 --> 01:35:46,260 verses with rappers unable to perform this was a great way for 1452 01:35:46,260 --> 01:35:48,990 hip hop fans to watch their favorite rappers go head to head 1453 01:35:49,020 --> 01:35:52,350 showcasing their hit songs in a battle light competition after 1454 01:35:52,350 --> 01:35:54,900 Jeezy was invited to the show. He requested to go up against 1455 01:35:54,900 --> 01:35:57,210 Gucci Mane thinking it would bring good entertainment seeing 1456 01:35:57,210 --> 01:36:02,820 the long time for you to go head to head. Oh, okay, now the veil 1457 01:36:02,820 --> 01:36:05,700 is lifted. Okay, I get it. I see what's going on. What was that 1458 01:36:05,700 --> 01:36:09,810 quotable mo I couldn't quite catch it. Which one? The one in 1459 01:36:09,810 --> 01:36:16,020 Oh, oh, go Go. Go dig, go dig your partner. But she can't say 1460 01:36:16,020 --> 01:36:20,130 it. So he's talking about and they do say pooky lock was Loke. 1461 01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:23,340 It was whenever his LLC is pronounced Loke. But that was 1462 01:36:23,340 --> 01:36:28,020 the god so Gz allegedly, let me let me make sure I don't piss 1463 01:36:28,020 --> 01:36:34,230 nobody off. Allegedly, the story is that he sent put a bounty on 1464 01:36:34,260 --> 01:36:39,330 Gucci chain, the ice cream chain. And these five guys who 1465 01:36:39,330 --> 01:36:43,140 were close associates to Gz went to go. 1466 01:36:45,300 --> 01:36:48,000 Yeah, I mean, because if you get it, then that gives you 1467 01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:51,510 automatic credibility. And can you just translate this to 1468 01:36:51,510 --> 01:36:53,880 translate? Can you just because I can't hear it? I can't hear 1469 01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:55,170 what's being said here. This 1470 01:37:00,390 --> 01:37:04,020 your partner up? And I bet he can't say it. 1471 01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:11,460 Okay, gotcha. So basically, I killed them. And you're saying 1472 01:37:11,460 --> 01:37:13,830 if you want to say something to go dig him up. 1473 01:37:15,390 --> 01:37:20,850 And very nice, very gentlemanly. It's not and the crazy thing and 1474 01:37:20,850 --> 01:37:23,550 this is why this versus now we're at the versus 1475 01:37:25,260 --> 01:37:29,550 these two men in Magic City, which is the club in Atlanta, 1476 01:37:29,580 --> 01:37:33,870 the strip club in Atlanta, the world famous strip club in 1477 01:37:33,870 --> 01:37:34,980 Atlanta. Oh, what happened? 1478 01:37:36,930 --> 01:37:38,670 No, no, no, no, it's Majesty the madness. 1479 01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:40,890 That's 1480 01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:43,770 right. 1481 01:37:45,210 --> 01:37:48,360 The place to be and I heard they got great wings. I got I got 1482 01:37:50,220 --> 01:37:53,130 good authority. That will be the only reason I go is for the 1483 01:37:53,130 --> 01:37:58,170 wings. I mean, I'm I'm so this is the setup. 1484 01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:05,190 And you got Jeezy on stage? You got Gucci on stage? People don't 1485 01:38:05,190 --> 01:38:06,630 know what's gonna happen. 1486 01:38:08,460 --> 01:38:11,670 Is Cray. I mean, this is what Bill This is why 2 million 1487 01:38:11,670 --> 01:38:17,310 people tuned in, of course sissy. Is it gonna explode it to 1488 01:38:17,370 --> 01:38:23,160 a brawl? or What now? Was this a completely non mainstream 1489 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:27,540 commercial event? Were there advertisers sponsors? Or was 1490 01:38:27,540 --> 01:38:33,750 this completely organic? I know, every urban or hip hop related 1491 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:38,640 content creator had multiple videos have videos on it. Now, I 1492 01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,370 don't know about commercial as far as I didn't. I mean, I don't 1493 01:38:41,370 --> 01:38:45,750 watch very much commercial TV. I didn't see any like ads for it. 1494 01:38:46,290 --> 01:38:49,440 But verge like I said, When versus hit when versus say they 1495 01:38:49,440 --> 01:38:53,160 go to say a versus is a big deal. Yeah. I think the lowest 1496 01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:57,750 when I seen maybe have like, a couple 100,000 people live, you 1497 01:38:57,750 --> 01:39:00,030 know, that's pretty that's a pretty significant, very 1498 01:39:00,030 --> 01:39:00,630 significant. 1499 01:39:01,740 --> 01:39:04,530 And then you talk about, Hey, I think 2 million with the record, 1500 01:39:04,530 --> 01:39:07,110 I think this was the record versus and who and who organized 1501 01:39:07,110 --> 01:39:14,940 this? Swiss beats and Timberland super producer in hip hop. And 1502 01:39:14,940 --> 01:39:16,710 it's a genius idea. 1503 01:39:17,850 --> 01:39:20,880 So and then one of the other ones the funny one was a baby 1504 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,850 face and a teddy rally. That was hilarious. So 1505 01:39:25,290 --> 01:39:28,260 how old are those guys at my age now, aren't they? Right? 1506 01:39:29,610 --> 01:39:34,320 Yeah, so um, I guess let's get into five and see what happens 1507 01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,320 that this versus after the show got closer shots were already 1508 01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,920 being fired, mostly from Gucci Zen. days leading up to the show 1509 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,010 Gucci would post memes on his Instagram about pokey lock as 1510 01:39:44,010 --> 01:39:46,770 well as insulting Jeezy's outfit that he wore for his upcoming 1511 01:39:46,770 --> 01:39:50,370 album. As the show went on it we gained over 1.8 million viewers 1512 01:39:50,370 --> 01:39:53,040 on Instagram alone. It started out slow but things would 1513 01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,830 inevitably heat up as the rappers played hit songs as well 1514 01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:58,800 as some of their old diss records. By the end of the show, 1515 01:39:58,830 --> 01:40:00,000 they would make history when they perform 1516 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,780 Their hit song so I see together for the first time in 15 years 1517 01:40:03,900 --> 01:40:06,510 after the song was performed, the two would have a brief but 1518 01:40:06,510 --> 01:40:09,630 wholesome exchange of words. It led many viewers to believe this 1519 01:40:09,630 --> 01:40:12,360 was the end of their long lasting beef since the show 1520 01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,820 Jeezy has spoken out saying he feels better hoping they could 1521 01:40:14,820 --> 01:40:17,490 put this all behind them since then, rumors have come out 1522 01:40:17,490 --> 01:40:20,190 online about a possible collab album coming soon. 1523 01:40:21,450 --> 01:40:23,400 Okay, so promise. 1524 01:40:25,290 --> 01:40:29,640 At the beginning of the verses, it was very tense, because Gucci 1525 01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:35,100 man actually did the two diss tracks. Talking about Jesus dead 1526 01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:36,090 homie Damn. 1527 01:40:37,110 --> 01:40:39,240 Yeah, I mean, cuz here's the thing. 1528 01:40:40,260 --> 01:40:42,420 He says, I mean, cuz we, I guess we 1529 01:40:43,770 --> 01:40:47,190 were at a point where we can start looking at who Jeezy and 1530 01:40:47,370 --> 01:40:52,560 Gucci is to Gucci Jeezy was always the corporate minded 1531 01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:55,260 person, he really didn't want to be a rapper. He wanted to be a 1532 01:40:55,260 --> 01:40:59,730 CEO of a record company. But he bet on himself, because like 1533 01:40:59,730 --> 01:41:03,150 because artists kept flaking on him. So he, you know, he became 1534 01:41:03,180 --> 01:41:06,330 gotten in front of the microphone, and started 1535 01:41:06,330 --> 01:41:08,100 recording music and he blew up there. 1536 01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:12,300 But he always had that corporate mentality. And I think that's 1537 01:41:12,300 --> 01:41:15,030 why record labels really embraced him. That's why Def Jam 1538 01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:19,140 gave him a huge deal puffy, Jay Z, they all put their arm around 1539 01:41:19,140 --> 01:41:24,570 him. And he became a fixture in the music industry. But he never 1540 01:41:24,570 --> 01:41:29,820 had the popularity of a Gucci man who was strict like, cap 1541 01:41:29,820 --> 01:41:35,190 trap. And what I mean by that is, he was actually from the 1542 01:41:35,190 --> 01:41:40,110 trap. And when he became famous, he stayed in the trap. So and 1543 01:41:40,110 --> 01:41:46,590 that's why the young artists like a Migos Young Thug. All of 1544 01:41:46,590 --> 01:41:51,690 these guys came up on the gucci mane. So it was every talk of 1545 01:41:51,690 --> 01:41:55,020 music wise Jeezy had the better music, and probably had the 1546 01:41:55,020 --> 01:41:56,730 biggest Biggers 1547 01:41:58,260 --> 01:42:01,170 was that the highest higher heights, but we talked about 1548 01:42:01,170 --> 01:42:06,150 longevity is Gucci man because of his organic beginnings and 1549 01:42:06,150 --> 01:42:10,680 staying true to the streets in the trap. So, but now, hopefully 1550 01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:14,760 they do do a collab, I doubt they do a collabo. But that will 1551 01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:18,720 be nice to see. But it started out very tense to be able to 1552 01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:22,230 begin that versus Well, I'm excited to see how this unfolds. 1553 01:42:22,230 --> 01:42:26,730 We're not even halfway yet or just about. Right. So speaking 1554 01:42:26,730 --> 01:42:31,620 of collabos I think we got one of the best collabos in well in 1555 01:42:31,620 --> 01:42:32,610 podcasting. 1556 01:42:33,780 --> 01:42:37,770 And you want to remind people what the mo Faxon Adam Curry 1557 01:42:37,770 --> 01:42:42,090 show is about Yeah, we'll do that with this beautiful clip 1558 01:42:42,270 --> 01:42:45,780 from Malcolm X. First, the white man in the black man have to be 1559 01:42:45,780 --> 01:42:48,930 able to sit down at the same table, the white man has to feel 1560 01:42:48,930 --> 01:42:51,450 free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings are both 1561 01:42:51,450 --> 01:42:54,570 Negro. And the so called Negro has to feel free to speak his 1562 01:42:54,660 --> 01:42:57,630 mind without hurting the feelings of the white man, then 1563 01:42:57,630 --> 01:43:00,000 they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of 1564 01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:02,430 the table and take an intelligent approach to get the 1565 01:43:02,430 --> 01:43:06,450 problem solved. The only way to do it. And today's episode of 1566 01:43:06,450 --> 01:43:10,200 Moe facts with Adam Curry is more an educational process than 1567 01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:15,270 a comparative process, which is I think of paramount importance. 1568 01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:18,360 And thank you for humanizing, as we said. And as you mentioned 1569 01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:22,740 many times, I'm very excited about the rest of this show. And 1570 01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,980 you probably realize that this kind of program, its length, the 1571 01:43:25,980 --> 01:43:30,840 topics, the language the way Moe and I talk, which is just like 1572 01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:34,230 two American men who want to understand stuff and learn from 1573 01:43:34,230 --> 01:43:36,810 each other, not really compatible with canceled 1574 01:43:36,810 --> 01:43:39,990 culture, Black Lives Matter ink or with commercials or any 1575 01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:45,030 corporate money, which is why we've chosen for the successful 1576 01:43:45,030 --> 01:43:48,090 format known as value for value. It's successful because the 1577 01:43:48,090 --> 01:43:51,360 producers of the podcast are the ones who keep it running, you 1578 01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:55,080 get value out of it, all we ask is for you to return that value. 1579 01:43:55,350 --> 01:43:58,380 It can be in a number of ways we like to say time, talent or 1580 01:43:58,380 --> 01:44:01,320 treasure. In this case, we have a list of producers, our 1581 01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,840 executive producers and associated executive producers 1582 01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:07,290 and other producers who put this together for us and have stuck 1583 01:44:07,290 --> 01:44:11,580 with us regardless of time schedule. And we we published 1584 01:44:11,580 --> 01:44:15,090 but I think it's appreciated how much work goes into this, how 1585 01:44:15,090 --> 01:44:19,230 much time efforts, thoughtfulness and then for us 1586 01:44:19,230 --> 01:44:22,530 to be able to discuss the way we do and keep it going. It's 1587 01:44:22,530 --> 01:44:25,770 really a testament to these producers for helping us so with 1588 01:44:25,770 --> 01:44:28,800 that said let's start off with thanking our executive producer 1589 01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:33,180 for episode number 55. And we start with James Irvine, who 1590 01:44:33,210 --> 01:44:39,510 sent us $250.99 and he has a note, just love this show. This 1591 01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:42,360 is a white guy this gives me a wonderful insight into the true 1592 01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,870 meaning of being black. It goes so much deeper than I ever knew 1593 01:44:45,870 --> 01:44:48,930 or even ever had a clue about Thank you Moe and thank you Adam 1594 01:44:48,930 --> 01:44:52,590 for cluing me in in the morning. He says Jeremy Jim Irvine Night 1595 01:44:52,590 --> 01:44:54,750 of the RV and a to the MS. 1596 01:44:57,180 --> 01:44:58,230 All right beautiful. 1597 01:44:59,400 --> 01:44:59,970 Another 1598 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,670 familiar name here with $230.33 little magic sauce dipped on top 1599 01:45:05,670 --> 01:45:10,170 from Sir David Foucault's odo mo anatomy says the education 1600 01:45:10,170 --> 01:45:13,080 continues. Thanks for doing the work. I use the information you 1601 01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:16,260 bring up almost daily, most of my American employees are black, 1602 01:45:16,260 --> 01:45:19,050 we've had a lot of great enlightening conversation, some 1603 01:45:19,050 --> 01:45:21,390 of the more interesting chats have been around the difference 1604 01:45:21,390 --> 01:45:24,000 in skin tone. And I would have been lost if not for the 1605 01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:27,270 education I've had from the show. Are you familiar with the 1606 01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:31,590 term high yellow for light skinned blacks? Mo? Yes. 1607 01:45:32,700 --> 01:45:33,060 So 1608 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:39,270 poly high yellow. And we may talk about this one day, but 1609 01:45:39,300 --> 01:45:41,700 I'll be quick with it. So how yellow is 1610 01:45:43,770 --> 01:45:46,170 it's a little different than by ratio. 1611 01:45:47,430 --> 01:45:50,520 And what I mean by that is, you see, I'm trying to think of 1612 01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:53,430 somebody or you could refer to as high yellow or red bone. 1613 01:45:54,900 --> 01:45:59,220 It's, it's not that light skinned that you get from like a 1614 01:45:59,220 --> 01:46:05,520 biracial, a relationship or a child who biracial means it's 1615 01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:06,570 more of a 1616 01:46:08,310 --> 01:46:12,900 you have Halle Berry, she would be considered by a hot yellow. 1617 01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:16,020 And it's pronounced yellow. I don't know why, I mean from the 1618 01:46:16,020 --> 01:46:19,800 south. I don't know why, but it's high yellow. So that's, 1619 01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:24,660 that's, that's what high yellow means to me. Well, David said, 1620 01:46:24,660 --> 01:46:27,540 he said I did. He said many of them are very active in the 1621 01:46:27,540 --> 01:46:30,540 Masons. Is that true? The high yellow? 1622 01:46:32,220 --> 01:46:35,100 Yeah, cuz, well, you got to go back to what we talked about 1623 01:46:35,100 --> 01:46:36,720 with the brown paper bags. 1624 01:46:37,740 --> 01:46:38,130 Of course. 1625 01:46:39,930 --> 01:46:44,460 That's very familiar, familiar, familiar, as well. But he wants 1626 01:46:44,460 --> 01:46:46,680 to know if that'll be a topic in the future. Well, sounds like we 1627 01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:51,570 will touch on that for sure. And he continues anyways, keep up 1628 01:46:51,570 --> 01:46:54,600 the fantastically useful inform and inform informative 1629 01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:57,330 conversations. It's been a while since I've donated So could I 1630 01:46:57,330 --> 01:47:00,930 get a D dead beating and a refreshing of mo karma? Yes, you 1631 01:47:00,930 --> 01:47:01,740 can, my friend. 1632 01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:07,320 Congratulations. You're no longer I 1633 01:47:10,230 --> 01:47:10,920 would like to save 1634 01:47:13,470 --> 01:47:14,280 the karma flow. 1635 01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:20,430 Because it just came to my mind that my wife and two of my 1636 01:47:20,430 --> 01:47:26,100 children are Hi, Ella. So so that's why I don't get to the 1637 01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:27,570 colorism thing because 1638 01:47:29,310 --> 01:47:32,100 it hits home shots, the home shirt, just be careful of the 1639 01:47:32,100 --> 01:47:33,780 number 33 around the house. 1640 01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:35,760 Yeah, I'm sorry about this. 1641 01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:41,730 Thanks, Dave. Definitely good question $210.88 from David J. 1642 01:47:41,730 --> 01:47:44,820 Langford. He says I live in Wyoming and love your podcast 1643 01:47:44,820 --> 01:47:47,190 and we love you David. Thank you. And you're also an 1644 01:47:47,190 --> 01:47:52,140 executive producer of Episode Number 55. Joseph when sell $100 1645 01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:56,340 so my informant mon mentioned pips as a thing. While I'm at 1646 01:47:56,340 --> 01:47:59,730 the table, eating carrot cake and wondering just how many 1647 01:47:59,730 --> 01:48:04,140 things are under the rug. After the cast. I tune into episode 1648 01:48:04,140 --> 01:48:07,890 eight of hbos Perry Mason and here the main lesbian character 1649 01:48:07,890 --> 01:48:09,270 called her lover a pip. 1650 01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:16,110 I don't know how that relates. Yeah, I mean, when we say pips 1651 01:48:16,110 --> 01:48:19,320 it means in quotation air quotes. Can't wait till all the 1652 01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:21,900 citizens of the United States of America are at the table again. 1653 01:48:21,900 --> 01:48:24,510 So happy officer Drake turned in his badge and gun in this 1654 01:48:24,510 --> 01:48:27,120 episode, especially considering how much more money in 1655 01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,180 satisfaction the character will get in the occupation of private 1656 01:48:30,180 --> 01:48:34,530 investigator IE podcaster in pips, so Bo Jaiden is our 1657 01:48:34,530 --> 01:48:37,770 president elect Saturdays and our future moment Adam, please 1658 01:48:37,770 --> 01:48:41,460 keep my keel even as best y'all can get to the table and you 1659 01:48:41,460 --> 01:48:44,430 will get served especially at Thanksgiving. They're very 1660 01:48:44,430 --> 01:48:50,340 poetic, Joseph. And all I can say is, we'll see. I think 1661 01:48:50,340 --> 01:48:54,240 January 20. I'll know if his blow giant is our president or 1662 01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:58,110 not. Donald rose do counting there's almost a there's still 1663 01:48:59,130 --> 01:49:03,630 there's more than this that going on. Donald Ralf also $100 1664 01:49:03,630 --> 01:49:06,060 to the OFAC show. Thank you. Hello, mon Adam, love your show 1665 01:49:06,060 --> 01:49:08,490 and enlightenment. I'm a no agenda night and learn value for 1666 01:49:08,490 --> 01:49:11,040 value from Adam. I'm making attempts to catch up on episodes 1667 01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:14,580 and value in return. Keep up the great work, sir. A fake Thank 1668 01:49:14,580 --> 01:49:18,930 you very much. Appreciate it. Yes. archive.mo facts.com gives 1669 01:49:18,930 --> 01:49:23,790 you a beautiful overview. Oh, yeah, I wanted to mention, we 1670 01:49:23,790 --> 01:49:28,860 are podcasting two point like 2.0 compliant with this show, 1671 01:49:28,860 --> 01:49:31,890 which means you need to get a new podcast app or at least try 1672 01:49:31,890 --> 01:49:36,600 one out until yours gets up to speed new podcast apps.com. We 1673 01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:42,240 now have transcripts inside of the podcast apps themselves. So 1674 01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,540 if you're thinking Hey, where did Adam and Moe talk about 1675 01:49:45,540 --> 01:49:48,540 something you can give an example go to pod friend comm 1676 01:49:48,540 --> 01:49:52,110 use that you can even use it on the website, or just as a web 1677 01:49:52,110 --> 01:49:55,290 app. And you can search the transcript of what we said 1678 01:49:55,290 --> 01:49:58,050 inside each episode to find exactly what you were looking 1679 01:49:58,050 --> 01:49:59,970 for. If you want to review something. It's pretty cool. 1680 01:50:01,050 --> 01:50:06,030 Now we slip into our associate executive producers $50 up to 1681 01:50:06,030 --> 01:50:10,710 100 john Taylor double nickels and the dime $55.10 with the bbg 1682 01:50:10,710 --> 01:50:15,450 group we say indeed by blacks guns thank you that's a good 1683 01:50:15,450 --> 01:50:17,430 start. Aaron BG 1684 01:50:18,869 --> 01:50:21,659 always give blacks cuz Yeah, he didn't want to be BG I don't 1685 01:50:21,659 --> 01:50:23,369 know what how did how did that get messed up? 1686 01:50:24,450 --> 01:50:28,350 I don't know it's this weird mandela effect where he's a 1687 01:50:28,350 --> 01:50:30,810 Mandela, I think it's because he's not the only one that said 1688 01:50:30,810 --> 01:50:34,620 that before they I know what it is is because of build back 1689 01:50:34,620 --> 01:50:38,370 better is the three B's I think people are getting confused but 1690 01:50:38,370 --> 01:50:42,180 yes it should be gbg which is give blacks guns? Well what 1691 01:50:42,180 --> 01:50:44,340 depends on what solder University room Oh, so maybe 1692 01:50:44,340 --> 01:50:45,690 we're just on a different side. 1693 01:50:47,370 --> 01:50:52,710 Maybe Maybe not greetings and salutations as Aaron KEANEY. I'm 1694 01:50:52,710 --> 01:50:57,330 a tomo convert, which means Aaron came to us via Tom Woods 1695 01:50:57,330 --> 01:51:01,110 no agenda to mo facts note about Cynthia McKinney. Yes, we talked 1696 01:51:01,110 --> 01:51:04,380 about her. I'm not saying there was not fraud in her 2002 1697 01:51:04,380 --> 01:51:07,440 primary loss. I was 11. So I was not much in the know, but we 1698 01:51:07,440 --> 01:51:09,930 lived in her district. At the time, I can attest that there 1699 01:51:09,930 --> 01:51:12,690 really was considerable republican crossover. As I 1700 01:51:12,690 --> 01:51:15,690 remember, she ran unopposed for a long time and that year 1701 01:51:15,690 --> 01:51:19,320 finally had challenger in the primary. Yes, that is true. My 1702 01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,810 parents and all of their republican friends voted in the 1703 01:51:21,810 --> 01:51:25,140 Democratic primary for her challenger in Georgia. You don't 1704 01:51:25,140 --> 01:51:28,500 register with a specific party. So when you walk up to the vote 1705 01:51:28,500 --> 01:51:31,500 in the primary, it's easy just ask for the Democratic ballot 1706 01:51:31,500 --> 01:51:34,770 instead of the republican ballot or vice versa. Perhaps the 1707 01:51:34,770 --> 01:51:37,380 Democratic Party put up a challenge because of her 1708 01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:41,040 indiscretions, at the very least having a challenger that 1709 01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:43,860 Republicans could vote for provided cover for any fraud 1710 01:51:43,860 --> 01:51:46,980 that may have happened also, I hope your theory that Stacey 1711 01:51:47,010 --> 01:51:50,640 Abrams is going to going down with the ship is correct. I know 1712 01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:54,450 democrat establishment Schumer etc. wanted her to run for the 1713 01:51:54,450 --> 01:51:57,810 Johnny Isaacson senate seat and were miffed that she had bigger 1714 01:51:57,810 --> 01:52:00,750 aspirations. So there's certainly motive there. love 1715 01:52:00,750 --> 01:52:04,350 y'all thinking of you? Stay thinking says Aaron. Yeah. 1716 01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:10,500 You can already see a moment I you were texting. yesterday. The 1717 01:52:10,830 --> 01:52:15,000 setup or the the alley is there for the OOP to have her holding 1718 01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:17,970 the bag. Whoops. About that lingo. 1719 01:52:19,110 --> 01:52:21,060 It looks like it's happening. They're putting her in front and 1720 01:52:21,060 --> 01:52:24,720 center just in case. That's the headline I've seen everywhere. 1721 01:52:24,900 --> 01:52:28,350 They see a new investigation and we'll talk about that, Anna? 1722 01:52:29,370 --> 01:52:29,910 No. 1723 01:52:31,260 --> 01:52:34,230 When she's in the very, very near future, I'll say that when 1724 01:52:34,230 --> 01:52:35,640 she's in jail, we'll talk about her. 1725 01:52:37,620 --> 01:52:41,160 William smock $55 Have you watched the third season of 1726 01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:48,060 Fargo? No, I haven't you have seen it is good. Yes, yes. He 1727 01:52:48,060 --> 01:52:50,760 says here it's the fight between Jews Italians and blacks in 1728 01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:54,600 Kansas City, Missouri, to not be at the bottom. Thanks for your 1729 01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,660 hard work. Oh, no, I gotta watch it. That's cool. That is the 1730 01:52:57,690 --> 01:53:01,650 best representation of the bottom. William that was a 1731 01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:05,520 great, great point out well, please check that out. We became 1732 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:06,450 Fargo Well, we got 1733 01:53:10,410 --> 01:53:11,010 good work. 1734 01:53:12,660 --> 01:53:15,930 tyreke Sharif $50 no note we thank you for that terrific 1735 01:53:15,930 --> 01:53:19,740 James chap coast as thank you for your courage. $50 Curtis, 1736 01:53:19,740 --> 01:53:24,270 there we go. Happy Birthday mo $50. There you go. I know you 1737 01:53:24,270 --> 01:53:29,490 should have given 40 not 50. And with that we wrap up our 1738 01:53:29,490 --> 01:53:31,890 executive producers and associate executive producers 1739 01:53:31,890 --> 01:53:35,610 donations for Episode Number 55 of mo facts with Adam Curry, we 1740 01:53:35,610 --> 01:53:37,590 do have a few more people to think we'll do that a little bit 1741 01:53:37,590 --> 01:53:40,890 later on in the program. But again, it's value for value. 1742 01:53:41,070 --> 01:53:44,160 Whatever you get out of this, just turn it into some numbers. 1743 01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:47,250 We've seen some interesting numbers as well today I like to 1744 01:53:47,250 --> 01:53:52,290 to add 5099 to 3033 110 88. These are all these have 1745 01:53:52,290 --> 01:53:56,430 meanings. And I think they're powerful actually. Just whatever 1746 01:53:56,430 --> 01:54:00,030 it is, it could be $1 it could be $5 value is up to you, not 1747 01:54:00,090 --> 01:54:04,860 us. And please just go to moe facts.com and click on the 1748 01:54:04,860 --> 01:54:07,890 donate button or you can go directly to the donation page at 1749 01:54:07,890 --> 01:54:12,870 mo fund me.com Mr. fqndme.com. And thank you all for your 1750 01:54:12,870 --> 01:54:13,500 courage. 1751 01:54:14,610 --> 01:54:18,390 Alright, so we're coming out of the donation segment and 1752 01:54:18,390 --> 01:54:22,530 straight into a throwback block. So this is from the show the 1753 01:54:22,530 --> 01:54:28,020 shoot is number 48. And this is white Mike. So I want to we 1754 01:54:28,020 --> 01:54:32,280 don't have to linger around a long conversation in between 1755 01:54:32,310 --> 01:54:37,290 each clip. But I want to play these clips to give context for 1756 01:54:37,290 --> 01:54:43,020 the affer mentioned trap music. And then it'll explain a little 1757 01:54:43,020 --> 01:54:46,530 better the second half of the show. Now in this time I learned 1758 01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:49,470 a lot of beautiful things about a lot of beautiful people. I 1759 01:54:49,470 --> 01:54:52,200 learned a lot of ugly things about myself. And I learned a 1760 01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:55,650 lot of dark things about the nation in which we live. But I 1761 01:54:55,650 --> 01:54:58,890 also learned that I being white Mike specifically the white part 1762 01:54:59,010 --> 01:54:59,970 have a lot of power. 1763 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,300 Mike has a question today. And that's this. How come when you 1764 01:55:03,300 --> 01:55:06,960 turn on the radio in Jacksonville, or New Orleans, or 1765 01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:11,610 Chicago for little rock? The only people on the radio that 1766 01:55:11,610 --> 01:55:15,150 talk about how great it is to kill each other, are black. 1767 01:55:16,890 --> 01:55:22,470 How come that exist 15 stations on a dial go up, go down. The 1768 01:55:22,500 --> 01:55:26,070 only people on the radio bragging about getting automatic 1769 01:55:26,070 --> 01:55:30,030 weapons gunning each other down, are black. This right here is a 1770 01:55:30,030 --> 01:55:33,450 song. My pastoral vocabulary won't let me read the title. 1771 01:55:34,650 --> 01:55:37,020 But I will read this catchy young black male not paying 1772 01:55:37,020 --> 01:55:40,050 attention that the red light with your ak 47. Let me see you 1773 01:55:40,050 --> 01:55:42,690 shoot it here a killer. You're a killer. You're a killer. You're 1774 01:55:42,690 --> 01:55:45,960 a killer, black male? Let me see you prove it. Why does this 1775 01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:49,590 exist? Oh, this is a great series of clips. I've often used 1776 01:55:49,590 --> 01:55:54,180 this as an example with people so I won't spoil it. Yes, I want 1777 01:55:54,180 --> 01:55:54,330 to 1778 01:55:55,500 --> 01:55:58,440 play this just to show that how it's normalized. 1779 01:55:59,670 --> 01:56:04,020 The acceptance of the behavior that went on between Jeezy and 1780 01:56:04,050 --> 01:56:07,830 Gucci man. And not only that, that's why I chose the person 1781 01:56:07,830 --> 01:56:12,360 that did the background of their beef as a I would assume to be a 1782 01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:17,970 suburban white kid, a white young man. Oh, it's totally 1783 01:56:17,970 --> 01:56:20,880 accepted. And I just, I couldn't get to the next clip, I just 1784 01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:24,960 want to point out to people, all the terms that come out of trap 1785 01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:32,010 rap and bleed over into everyday society like Turk and Draco and, 1786 01:56:32,730 --> 01:56:37,110 and her ball and chopper purple lane. I mean, do you think it's 1787 01:56:37,140 --> 01:56:41,370 just and it's and it's really, really see it show up in 1788 01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:44,670 advertisement to show like some kind of credibility. So I just 1789 01:56:44,670 --> 01:56:48,360 want to say that, I guess we can get into the second white mic 1790 01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:51,060 clip. I'll take it even further. Because a lot of time racism 1791 01:56:51,060 --> 01:56:55,140 exists in what we in what we don't know what we don't see. 1792 01:56:55,230 --> 01:56:57,840 Where are the white killers on the radio? 1793 01:56:59,340 --> 01:57:02,910 Where are the white ak 47 shooters? Where the white drug 1794 01:57:02,910 --> 01:57:06,210 dealers? Where are the white people on the radio that brag 1795 01:57:06,210 --> 01:57:10,470 about what it's like to murder witnesses before trial? The 1796 01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:14,220 truth is they don't exist. And the question is why? Why don't 1797 01:57:14,220 --> 01:57:17,310 they exist? Do white people not kill people? Do white people not 1798 01:57:17,310 --> 01:57:20,280 use ak 47 to shoot each other? I mean, we know do white people 1799 01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:23,580 not do drugs and they're not do drugs? Of course they do. But 1800 01:57:23,580 --> 01:57:27,060 why is it that doesn't make it to our mainstream radio? Why is 1801 01:57:27,060 --> 01:57:29,490 it that we don't hear it hundreds of times a day in 1802 01:57:29,580 --> 01:57:33,390 hundreds of cities across the nation 1000s of plays that say 1803 01:57:33,420 --> 01:57:36,210 the idea that a black guy would kill another black guy is 1804 01:57:36,210 --> 01:57:39,060 something to be celebrated. Something to be romanticized. 1805 01:57:39,870 --> 01:57:43,740 Yeah, well, that was playing since I've already heard this is 1806 01:57:43,740 --> 01:57:47,670 a throwback to Episode 48. The only white song that comes to 1807 01:57:47,670 --> 01:57:51,990 mind about a white guy killing a white guy is Johnny Cash. 1808 01:57:53,190 --> 01:57:56,610 That's how long I killed a man in Reno just to watch him die. 1809 01:57:57,270 --> 01:58:00,930 And oh, gee, Johnny K. Oh, gee, man, very Oh, gee, I got to 1810 01:58:00,930 --> 01:58:03,990 think about if there's any more. But yeah, so weird. 1811 01:58:05,730 --> 01:58:08,700 And it's just totally accepted. Like I say, I just want to lay 1812 01:58:08,700 --> 01:58:12,900 this out just so people can really think about in hindsight, 1813 01:58:12,900 --> 01:58:18,750 what we've discussed, as a whole culture, and Wise's accept it 1814 01:58:18,750 --> 01:58:22,950 and like, and I'm guilty of it too, because I enjoy rap music. 1815 01:58:23,670 --> 01:58:25,260 But when does it? 1816 01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:30,870 How does it build the cage? That is the mind trap. So just think 1817 01:58:30,870 --> 01:58:34,260 about that. And I guess we can get to the third one. And maybe 1818 01:58:34,260 --> 01:58:37,110 that maybe it's because there's no white audience for it? Or 1819 01:58:37,110 --> 01:58:39,690 maybe it's because it's not really marketable. Maybe because 1820 01:58:39,690 --> 01:58:41,850 it's not good. Can't get sponsors. I don't know why it 1821 01:58:41,850 --> 01:58:44,700 is. Or maybe it's because it's just not the white man's role. 1822 01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:47,010 Or maybe when white people get up and talk about being drug 1823 01:58:47,010 --> 01:58:50,070 dealers and ak 47 killers. Maybe it's even sicker than that. 1824 01:58:50,070 --> 01:58:52,710 Maybe when white people do it, they're accused of acting black. 1825 01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:57,240 The truth is in America, black murder is normal. Black murder 1826 01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:59,340 is normal. The idea that a black man or a black woman would be 1827 01:58:59,340 --> 01:59:02,940 involved in a homicide, either as a perpetrator or victim is so 1828 01:59:02,940 --> 01:59:06,450 common, so broadly accepted that basically goes unnoticed. The 1829 01:59:06,450 --> 01:59:08,160 truth of the matter is black families are affected by 1830 01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:12,000 homicide rates of 10 times their white counterparts. There will 1831 01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:14,670 be more deaf in the form of homicide involving black people 1832 01:59:14,670 --> 01:59:17,190 this year than any other form of violence that dominates our 1833 01:59:17,190 --> 01:59:19,740 national conversation. More than school shootings, mass 1834 01:59:19,740 --> 01:59:22,050 shootings, mass shootings, workplace shootings, lovers 1835 01:59:22,050 --> 01:59:25,770 twist lovers trips that turn violent and buddy even more than 1836 01:59:25,770 --> 01:59:28,770 in war and in terrorism, no one will lose their life at greater 1837 01:59:28,770 --> 01:59:32,310 numbers than black Americans involved in violence. You know, 1838 01:59:32,310 --> 01:59:34,770 Blackbird in our country is not only comes not only frequent, 1839 01:59:34,860 --> 01:59:36,870 but it's an idea that we celebrate. It's an idea that we 1840 01:59:36,870 --> 01:59:40,890 say is is okay. We actually make heroes out of the notion he rose 1841 01:59:40,890 --> 01:59:44,520 out of people that trivialize and romanticize it. Every time I 1842 01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:46,440 show this information, people always say well, it's the number 1843 01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:48,840 three cause of death for white males. What is the number one 1844 01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:51,150 cause of death and without fail year after year, it's called 1845 01:59:51,180 --> 01:59:54,480 unintentional injuries, accidents, falling off a four 1846 01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:58,590 wheeler or crashing, you know, a go kart or you know, bungee 1847 01:59:58,590 --> 02:00:00,000 jumping without paying attention to you 1848 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,700 No knots and things like that. So basically the American story 1849 02:00:02,700 --> 02:00:05,670 is white kids are dying because they're clumsy and black kids 1850 02:00:05,670 --> 02:00:07,500 are dying because they're gunned down 1851 02:00:09,570 --> 02:00:13,620 so put To put this in perspective cuz you imagine 1852 02:00:13,860 --> 02:00:17,610 carrying Justin Bieber guns down one of the Jonas Brothers 1853 02:00:19,109 --> 02:00:21,179 progress but no I can't 1854 02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:24,570 now let me just say this that's how 1855 02:00:25,710 --> 02:00:33,240 either accepted and warped the trap mind is compared to the 1856 02:00:33,270 --> 02:00:38,370 mainstream media music do you know let me just relate 1857 02:00:38,370 --> 02:00:40,320 something I know we didn't want to talk too much in between 1858 02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:42,120 these clips but comes to mind 1859 02:00:44,010 --> 02:00:50,280 Ted Demi Ted Demi is the guy who really started yo MTV Raps with 1860 02:00:51,570 --> 02:00:56,850 Ed lover Dr. Dre different Dr. Dre. And Ted, because I watched 1861 02:00:56,850 --> 02:00:59,130 this up close and I was fascinated by it. 1862 02:01:00,270 --> 02:01:03,450 And I always got the feeling that Ted is no longer with us. 1863 02:01:03,450 --> 02:01:06,720 Sadly, I wish he was because man, the guy did so much for the 1864 02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:11,190 music. But to me, it always felt a little bit like let me help 1865 02:01:11,190 --> 02:01:13,470 these these black people get their success 1866 02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:17,880 in it sounds kind of weird, because I know it came from a 1867 02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:21,480 really good place. And he really wanted to expose the music but 1868 02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:23,670 the time that then that's why I said it much earlier in the 1869 02:01:23,670 --> 02:01:26,910 show. Yeah, we've got to get the the urban cnn people have got to 1870 02:01:26,910 --> 02:01:30,150 hear this, we got to get that out there. So it was really 1871 02:01:30,150 --> 02:01:33,960 encouraged. It was encouraging, discussing exactly what's 1872 02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:36,660 happening on the streets. And of course, you know, once that's 1873 02:01:36,660 --> 02:01:39,600 encouraged, once that becomes a hit then comes the money then 1874 02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:42,090 it's Hey, we want that you ain't getting you know, you're not 1875 02:01:42,090 --> 02:01:45,000 putting that record out. Not that happy sunshiny stuff we 1876 02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:49,740 want this. So it was an industry from early on before trap 1877 02:01:49,740 --> 02:01:50,130 really. 1878 02:01:51,450 --> 02:01:55,380 And was weird thing about it. That's why I said that my taste 1879 02:01:55,380 --> 02:01:59,100 was different. And I looked at the word trap, and the whole 1880 02:01:59,100 --> 02:02:02,340 culture differently because as you say, I grew up under 1881 02:02:04,590 --> 02:02:08,790 root, it was one thing to tell the story and not sugarcoat it, 1882 02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:13,380 and be district descriptive. And so it has the appropriate amount 1883 02:02:13,380 --> 02:02:20,160 of impact. What we saw with trap music was the quality go down 1884 02:02:20,490 --> 02:02:26,460 the intelligence go down the being a caricature of 1885 02:02:27,630 --> 02:02:28,920 basically 1886 02:02:30,390 --> 02:02:35,670 hood culture, not even know not even hood culture. It was going 1887 02:02:35,670 --> 02:02:37,590 back to the days of blackface, 1888 02:02:38,610 --> 02:02:42,570 right? Oh my goodness, yes, it cuz it's, they can't even 1889 02:02:43,260 --> 02:02:47,520 pronounce words correctly. And that kind of encouraged them to 1890 02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:52,740 say this. And then we can get straight into the next clip. But 1891 02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:55,950 one of the things I noticed about Charlemagne, 1892 02:02:57,480 --> 02:03:00,240 he says straight scream. 1893 02:03:01,980 --> 02:03:06,450 Um, which is a normal curse in the south. Because like I said, 1894 02:03:06,780 --> 02:03:10,350 and we get roasted for it. But nobody says anything to people 1895 02:03:10,350 --> 02:03:13,230 from the islands that says, tree for three and that kind of 1896 02:03:13,230 --> 02:03:20,040 thing. So but what I'm saying is to be a trained broadcaster, and 1897 02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:23,520 you can speak to this more than I can. They would normally work, 1898 02:03:23,850 --> 02:03:29,190 excuse me, but normally work that out of your speech to say, 1899 02:03:29,700 --> 02:03:34,380 straight Street. But he still says great his screen, which I 1900 02:03:34,380 --> 02:03:41,400 think he holds on to as a dog whistle to be real. 1901 02:03:42,780 --> 02:03:46,380 code switching, of course, what's not even code switching? 1902 02:03:46,380 --> 02:03:49,770 Because he doesn't, no matter how he's when he says he always 1903 02:03:49,770 --> 02:03:53,580 says, scrape and scream, right. But I'm saying does He say that 1904 02:03:53,610 --> 02:03:56,550 on the radio? Or does he say that in private too? That's my 1905 02:03:56,550 --> 02:04:00,510 question. He says, All righty, I don't think that that would be 1906 02:04:00,510 --> 02:04:04,020 even weirder. Well, that's what it is. If you're performing in 1907 02:04:04,020 --> 02:04:07,320 blackface, then that's what you do you do that on the radio, 1908 02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:10,230 maybe not privately. That's I don't know the answer if he's 1909 02:04:10,230 --> 02:04:15,120 doing it around. And I saw this crop up in the music of the 1910 02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:19,170 mispronunciation of words. Uh, 1911 02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:24,060 on purpose, I would say cuz and I say I say this one, I think 1912 02:04:24,780 --> 02:04:28,830 plies Jamie Foxx called out plies for this, which prizes a 1913 02:04:28,830 --> 02:04:31,890 popular rapper from that era of the trap when the trap music 1914 02:04:31,890 --> 02:04:36,540 first cropped up. He thought he was gonna meet and he you know, 1915 02:04:36,540 --> 02:04:41,520 he has a real heavy Southern accent when he's in an acting. 1916 02:04:42,150 --> 02:04:46,050 So when Jamie Foxx said when he went to go meet him, he expected 1917 02:04:46,650 --> 02:04:49,920 him to speak the same way. He's like, Hi, how are you doing? 1918 02:04:51,270 --> 02:04:55,320 So it's different. I have a southern accent and I don't want 1919 02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:57,120 to get rid of it because that's just who I am. 1920 02:04:58,770 --> 02:04:59,940 And I also 1921 02:05:00,750 --> 02:05:04,170 Speak somewhat different in conversation, because I want for 1922 02:05:04,170 --> 02:05:06,930 clarity purposes. I don't want people to not understand what 1923 02:05:06,930 --> 02:05:11,760 I'm saying. But I don't go out of my way to change the way I 1924 02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:15,720 speak. So I'm just saying that I noticed that there's this thing 1925 02:05:15,750 --> 02:05:19,920 of dumbing down that came in with trap music. And I'm all in 1926 02:05:19,950 --> 02:05:24,240 on that point. Now we don't have maybe two shoes today. He can't 1927 02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:26,610 get away with it. Nobody, nobody would put out there. But we do 1928 02:05:26,610 --> 02:05:29,100 have black people to get on the radio every day in Why don't 1929 02:05:29,100 --> 02:05:31,770 companies Why don't stations with white owned sponsors that 1930 02:05:31,770 --> 02:05:34,350 play the role of hyper sexualized, hyper criminalized 1931 02:05:34,350 --> 02:05:36,900 male? I asked these advertisers say I've gotten hundreds of 1932 02:05:36,900 --> 02:05:39,150 songs a day that celebrate killing animals, will you put 1933 02:05:39,150 --> 02:05:41,940 them on your station visit? No, I got hundreds of songs a day to 1934 02:05:41,940 --> 02:05:45,570 talk about assaulting women and and abusing kids. Would you put 1935 02:05:45,570 --> 02:05:47,730 them on your station? They said no. I said I got hundreds of 1936 02:05:47,730 --> 02:05:50,190 songs a day to talk about murdering blacks. Would you put 1937 02:05:50,190 --> 02:05:51,990 them on your stations? They said Well, that depends. 1938 02:05:53,190 --> 02:05:56,250 Depends on what who is done by and who it's branded for. 1939 02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:58,860 Because we can get black folks to sing about it. We can brand 1940 02:05:58,860 --> 02:06:01,110 it for our youngest black audiences. I think there's money 1941 02:06:01,110 --> 02:06:04,380 to be made. I think there's American appetites to see these 1942 02:06:04,380 --> 02:06:05,220 people that way. 1943 02:06:07,470 --> 02:06:10,980 Yeah, that's that's a money clip right there. So I'm gonna make 1944 02:06:10,980 --> 02:06:14,700 one point. Just one small point. We saw this not waiting for 1945 02:06:14,700 --> 02:06:17,970 money sake, but for voters site with booty to the poll. Yes. 1946 02:06:19,890 --> 02:06:23,040 So I'll, I'll just leave that. If you ever seen it, go, look, 1947 02:06:23,250 --> 02:06:27,780 go listen to our thinking about last show. But go or maybe it 1948 02:06:27,780 --> 02:06:31,710 was 53, I believe. But go look at booty to the pole. They used 1949 02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:35,490 that mentality or tried to communicate cake to black men on 1950 02:06:35,490 --> 02:06:39,030 that level of depravity. Which if you're a sex worker, that's 1951 02:06:39,090 --> 02:06:43,590 mean more power to you. I don't knock say Episode Two. Yeah, so 1952 02:06:43,590 --> 02:06:46,890 it's 52. So with that with that podcast and 2.0 at work there, 1953 02:06:46,890 --> 02:06:51,510 sir. No, no, that's Adam Curry, who's just has a has a 1954 02:06:51,540 --> 02:06:55,860 photographic memory of clips. Okay. But it's like 2.0 is 1955 02:06:55,860 --> 02:06:59,190 coming. Yeah, no, it's coming. It's coming. But you can use it 1956 02:06:59,190 --> 02:07:02,340 for that function, when it's up and running. So I guess we'll 1957 02:07:02,340 --> 02:07:05,580 just go and wrap up with white Mike. I said, How can you say 1958 02:07:05,580 --> 02:07:07,380 that? They said, Well, look, it's what these artists know. 1959 02:07:07,410 --> 02:07:10,350 It's what they black people create. It's Matter of fact, our 1960 02:07:10,350 --> 02:07:12,360 survey say it's what they want to hear, which makes up a 1961 02:07:12,360 --> 02:07:15,390 sickness. How do we live in a society where somebody says, You 1962 02:07:15,390 --> 02:07:18,090 know what, I'm inspired to write a song that celebrates murdering 1963 02:07:18,090 --> 02:07:20,400 another person. And then a person says, I'd like to put 1964 02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:22,740 that on my station, other person, I'd like to pay for it. 1965 02:07:22,860 --> 02:07:24,630 And then there's people out here in the audience that go, I'd 1966 02:07:24,630 --> 02:07:27,690 love to hear it. As long as it's black guys, because even white 1967 02:07:27,690 --> 02:07:30,630 people buy rap music, buy this type of stuff. Because we know 1968 02:07:30,630 --> 02:07:32,880 that when we want to hear about killing each other, we know who 1969 02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:36,960 to turn to, for that type of inspiration. We call it our 1970 02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:39,630 music. We say we own it. White people buy more rap and black 1971 02:07:39,630 --> 02:07:41,970 people. Yeah, but we're very careful to turn it down at the 1972 02:07:41,970 --> 02:07:43,920 stoplight when other black people are there. Why? Because 1973 02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:47,280 we know we're just pretending for them. It's more authentic 1974 02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:50,400 and real. I always ask the companies What about your name? 1975 02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:52,440 What about your brand? What about your value? And the 1976 02:07:52,440 --> 02:07:55,560 largest radio company in the world said this, it's okay. That 1977 02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:58,080 we only have drug dealers on our black youth stations. We only 1978 02:07:58,080 --> 02:08:00,570 have murders on our black stations. We support black 1979 02:08:00,570 --> 02:08:03,480 charities we give out water at the Martin Luther King parade. I 1980 02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:07,530 think we've got it covered. We bought them off. And it is it is 1981 02:08:07,530 --> 02:08:13,350 really black radio, isn't it? Yes. And it's all radio to be to 1982 02:08:13,350 --> 02:08:17,250 be honest, but it's really radio it's not Music Television is not 1983 02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:21,750 it's it's radio radio is so important. And and the reason I 1984 02:08:21,750 --> 02:08:25,020 say three three Yes. And the reason I say this is because if 1985 02:08:25,020 --> 02:08:29,280 there's one industry that I personally have helped kill and 1986 02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:32,520 bring down and is the radio industry because of podcasting. 1987 02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:37,530 And so for them to to hold on to anything that works they will 1988 02:08:37,530 --> 02:08:40,380 promote the shit out of it for as long as they can to keep that 1989 02:08:40,380 --> 02:08:44,100 going as long as they can. Because the culture is radio 1990 02:08:44,100 --> 02:08:47,550 listening and they just tuning into their audience that's sadly 1991 02:08:47,550 --> 02:08:51,600 that's also capitalism. And to go back to what I was speaking 1992 02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:54,900 about about writing was before you could afford a CD deck in 1993 02:08:54,900 --> 02:08:57,780 your car before ot cords and blue suit connection Yeah, the 1994 02:08:57,780 --> 02:09:01,410 radio Sure there you had the radio and the radio is really a 1995 02:09:01,410 --> 02:09:04,140 monopoly because they said play the same seven songs all the 1996 02:09:04,140 --> 02:09:08,280 stations mean over every hour on our Yes. So. 1997 02:09:09,300 --> 02:09:12,120 And I want to make one last point. When you said about white 1998 02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:17,040 rappers. We saw post malone came out of the trap. Right? 1999 02:09:18,090 --> 02:09:23,070 But when he made it to top 40 star, his musical content 2000 02:09:23,070 --> 02:09:28,350 change. Yeah. Now what's about maybe clubbing love, fall in 2001 02:09:28,350 --> 02:09:31,140 love that kind of thing. He didn't rap about Draco's and 2002 02:09:31,140 --> 02:09:35,940 choppers and all the things that uh that he went he made his way 2003 02:09:35,970 --> 02:09:39,510 up through the trap. So they don't that was that is not 2004 02:09:39,510 --> 02:09:43,710 accepted. That is not accepted to have even m&m the same thing. 2005 02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:48,000 Right. He was. He was rapping about like Munchausen syndrome 2006 02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:52,260 and in his hate for his mother so that you don't really have a 2007 02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:58,440 industry push. Why artists that are you know rapping about 2008 02:09:58,500 --> 02:09:59,490 killing people. 2009 02:10:01,020 --> 02:10:02,520 In May well killing 2010 02:10:04,350 --> 02:10:07,320 in the way that black black artists are right, so I say all 2011 02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:09,150 this I set all that up to say, 2012 02:10:10,260 --> 02:10:13,680 to point out this special guests that showed up to the verses to 2013 02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:16,980 stop by to deliver a special message. Yes, real quick. Thanks 2014 02:10:16,980 --> 02:10:19,830 for coming to verses, we got a special color for you guys right 2015 02:10:19,830 --> 02:10:22,710 now coming on. Hi, this is Stacey Abrams. 2016 02:10:25,320 --> 02:10:25,890 How you doing? 2017 02:10:26,970 --> 02:10:30,390 Thank you for letting me crash before what I know is the battle 2018 02:10:30,390 --> 02:10:33,900 to end all battles of versus to end up versus so thank you for 2019 02:10:33,900 --> 02:10:36,990 giving me some street cred with my nieces and nephews. That's 2020 02:10:36,990 --> 02:10:37,350 right. 2021 02:10:38,430 --> 02:10:39,900 Okay, you wipe my rabbit clean. 2022 02:10:41,730 --> 02:10:44,190 Look, that's the job that the governor could do. But you know, 2023 02:10:44,430 --> 02:10:47,100 we'll have to think about that later. But for right now we can 2024 02:10:47,100 --> 02:10:50,040 at least make sure that everyone shows up to vote. So we have two 2025 02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:53,010 senators to make sure we have COVID response and we've got 2026 02:10:53,010 --> 02:10:55,920 stimulus money coming back to Georgia. They're right. That's 2027 02:10:55,920 --> 02:10:58,770 right. We got baby, let's get a ga you know, we go stand up for 2028 02:10:58,770 --> 02:11:02,130 you. Thank you. Well, I just wanted to say thank you to both 2029 02:11:02,130 --> 02:11:04,980 of you, especially for the work you've done to encourage 2030 02:11:06,270 --> 02:11:09,240 folks who are coming back returning citizens, they have 2031 02:11:09,240 --> 02:11:11,400 the right to vote, I've got a younger brother who's been in 2032 02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:14,460 and out of the system. And I know redemption is real. And I 2033 02:11:14,460 --> 02:11:17,370 know that the voices that these men and women can bring to our 2034 02:11:17,370 --> 02:11:20,400 state matter and so thank you for the work you've done. No 2035 02:11:20,400 --> 02:11:27,240 question. Laura Stacy. Oh, boy. Well, that's that ruins the 2036 02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:32,310 event. When I saw that, yeah, it got to be a show. Yeah, you 2037 02:11:32,310 --> 02:11:35,700 gotta be a show what was going on right now? Do you think Stacy 2038 02:11:35,700 --> 02:11:37,020 talks like that all the time? 2039 02:11:40,110 --> 02:11:45,780 Maybe I wonder maybe I'm not sure. I can't I can't call that 2040 02:11:45,780 --> 02:11:48,480 could not be I mean, I'm more street than she is. I mean, 2041 02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:51,990 she's Council on Foreign Relations. This is crazy. Oh no, 2042 02:11:51,990 --> 02:11:56,640 she's that that's the that's the real guys. Right? That's the 2043 02:11:56,640 --> 02:12:00,870 real calling and just to say good works on her way to go by 2044 02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:04,020 Kikuyu that keep them keep them keep moving. 2045 02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:09,780 No, but that when I saw that I was like and then Gucci man. 2046 02:12:09,960 --> 02:12:12,660 Hey, can you get my record clean? Yes. Because I don't 2047 02:12:12,660 --> 02:12:16,740 think he was in on it. Uh, he wasn't read into what was going 2048 02:12:16,740 --> 02:12:20,700 on? No, cuz and but I want to point out another thing. 2049 02:12:22,500 --> 02:12:27,720 Notice how they refer to her. Gucci Mane says Miss Stacy, as 2050 02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:31,830 more like a formal thing. She's he says, Hey Stacy, right? 2051 02:12:33,360 --> 02:12:36,180 That's a little too familiar for me. Mm 2052 02:12:37,500 --> 02:12:39,120 hmm. Good catch. 2053 02:12:40,230 --> 02:12:43,440 These are the kind of things I'm like, oh, Cassie, where this is 2054 02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:47,490 going. And it was Jeezy that was the one that was invited to be 2055 02:12:47,490 --> 02:12:51,870 at vs and then he picked Gucci Mane to be his co star right. 2056 02:12:52,140 --> 02:12:55,230 But when I saw that I was like all captive audience to me and 2057 02:12:55,230 --> 02:12:59,490 people beauty shoot comes right in. Don't forget to vote now. 2058 02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:02,130 Let me know about your record going to incarnate about 2059 02:13:02,130 --> 02:13:03,030 cleaning that up. But 2060 02:13:05,160 --> 02:13:07,950 yeah, go vote now. Maybe we'll see another time. 2061 02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:16,650 Man, amazing. So and so this thing. I was like, Okay, this 2062 02:13:16,650 --> 02:13:21,390 thing was so widespread that eaters showed up on the um, I 2063 02:13:21,390 --> 02:13:28,710 forget her name. A lady on Sirius radio. Oh, Karen Hunter 2064 02:13:28,710 --> 02:13:32,910 Hunter, Karen Hunter. He shows up. She covered it on her show 2065 02:13:32,910 --> 02:13:34,110 Gucci man Gz. 2066 02:13:36,300 --> 02:13:36,690 And 2067 02:13:37,890 --> 02:13:42,690 is weird seeing you in the vs with Jeezy and gucci mane of the 2068 02:13:42,690 --> 02:13:45,870 night? I just I just want to just yeah. 2069 02:13:47,340 --> 02:13:51,270 I was like, that's the car in the exact Stacey Abrams popping 2070 02:13:51,270 --> 02:13:53,160 into it to a strip club. 2071 02:13:54,570 --> 02:13:55,110 She popped. 2072 02:13:56,940 --> 02:14:00,210 What does that say about our culture that could be a sitting 2073 02:14:00,210 --> 02:14:03,450 governor could be a sitting president could pop into a Gucci 2074 02:14:03,450 --> 02:14:09,690 Mane versus a Gz. very tense. And what most tense versus is is 2075 02:14:11,250 --> 02:14:13,050 what what brought you to the table? 2076 02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:17,730 The only thing that would bring me to take would be the young 2077 02:14:17,730 --> 02:14:22,080 people. Chair. That's not the car, the young people. That's 2078 02:14:22,110 --> 02:14:24,900 all they were that the young voters. Let me say it for him. 2079 02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:30,240 That's their only concern. How can we manipulate these voters 2080 02:14:30,810 --> 02:14:32,730 to make it seem like we're there for them? 2081 02:14:34,350 --> 02:14:38,010 Yeah. And now I'm going to go out on a limb here like this, 2082 02:14:38,010 --> 02:14:38,970 and this is what I do. 2083 02:14:41,850 --> 02:14:43,110 Ti is done. 2084 02:14:44,520 --> 02:14:47,670 You know, the Democratic Party was trying to use him right. But 2085 02:14:47,670 --> 02:14:50,850 he has so much stuff going on and he had made so many 2086 02:14:50,850 --> 02:14:53,640 missteps, that they need a new 2087 02:14:55,080 --> 02:14:57,930 track representative for the Democratic Party 2088 02:14:59,070 --> 02:14:59,970 and steps Jesus 2089 02:15:00,570 --> 02:15:03,900 He's the new representative. And that's why they were grooming 2090 02:15:03,900 --> 02:15:07,590 him. You remember that picture with him and Joe Biden when Joe 2091 02:15:07,590 --> 02:15:08,190 Baez? 2092 02:15:09,330 --> 02:15:13,020 Yeah. What was the response to that? Did people say what the 2093 02:15:13,020 --> 02:15:17,670 hell or was that? Oh, they said what the hell but it wasn't 2094 02:15:17,670 --> 02:15:21,630 amplified, though. As if, when little Wayne went to go talk to 2095 02:15:21,630 --> 02:15:24,810 Trump because he's talking to a Democrat. That's completely 2096 02:15:24,810 --> 02:15:25,350 acceptable. 2097 02:15:27,450 --> 02:15:28,500 Even though you know, 2098 02:15:29,700 --> 02:15:34,020 okay, I won't spoil it. But yeah, so, uh, so you have this 2099 02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:40,170 you have Gz and I feel like they're, they're there. He's now 2100 02:15:40,170 --> 02:15:45,450 going by. I think it's a J. Jenkins, J Gz. Jenkins he's 2101 02:15:45,450 --> 02:15:49,410 going to his kids going to do is Todd Smith face the same thing 2102 02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:52,410 LL Cool J went through so when you start getting called by your 2103 02:15:52,710 --> 02:15:58,170 government name, that's you're distancing yourself from your a 2104 02:15:58,560 --> 02:15:59,460 celebrity. 2105 02:16:00,570 --> 02:16:04,500 Or how you came into the, to the to the game. So yeah, that's 2106 02:16:04,500 --> 02:16:07,410 what they're all about is the votes. And that's why me so 2107 02:16:07,410 --> 02:16:07,860 much. 2108 02:16:09,210 --> 02:16:12,240 So much for so much for this Oh, organic spur of the moment, 2109 02:16:12,240 --> 02:16:16,140 things seems pretty, pretty premeditated, to some degree. 2110 02:16:17,130 --> 02:16:22,650 very abrupt. Very premeditated. So now we have post Jeezy posted 2111 02:16:22,650 --> 02:16:25,320 verses and he goes on I think is 2112 02:16:26,820 --> 02:16:32,220 hot 97. That's what Ebro when Rosenberg, the guy that just is 2113 02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:36,540 irks me. So he's talking to them about? 2114 02:16:38,160 --> 02:16:41,370 versus, can I want to, I want to ask you about something that 2115 02:16:41,370 --> 02:16:44,190 made me feel really good a few weeks ago, can you tell us about 2116 02:16:44,190 --> 02:16:47,430 my favorite picture of the of the last month or two? Was you 2117 02:16:47,430 --> 02:16:51,150 in conversation with Joe Biden? Can you tell us about your 2118 02:16:51,150 --> 02:16:53,940 conversations with Joe Biden and then how you and your family 2119 02:16:53,940 --> 02:16:55,410 took in the election as well. 2120 02:16:56,610 --> 02:16:58,830 The conversation with Joe Biden was 2121 02:17:00,270 --> 02:17:03,450 you know, I was I was owning, I was excellent, because I want to 2122 02:17:03,450 --> 02:17:04,980 see if he really understood 2123 02:17:06,030 --> 02:17:09,540 his position. He was honest, um, what I did, 2124 02:17:10,680 --> 02:17:14,400 you know, I kind of really appreciate the fact that Kamala 2125 02:17:14,460 --> 02:17:18,750 Harris is, you know, almost like his work wife, because I feel 2126 02:17:18,750 --> 02:17:22,500 like close to the culture to actually understand the thing 2127 02:17:22,500 --> 02:17:25,320 about is everybody like, how can you support them the drug laws 2128 02:17:25,320 --> 02:17:27,510 and dessert and what they did and people and I'm just like, 2129 02:17:27,510 --> 02:17:31,950 Yo, man, I'm not saying it's the end all be all. And I never said 2130 02:17:31,950 --> 02:17:36,330 that. I'm more. And I'm going to ask you a question. Now, Paul, 2131 02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:41,670 I'm I'm more I'm You mean, Peter? Getting one? So you 2132 02:17:41,670 --> 02:17:42,930 worked at Def Jam full on 2133 02:17:44,070 --> 02:17:45,870 my Rosenberg's? Yeah. 2134 02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:52,530 But I'm Rosenberg's? Yep. I'm more happy to see my coaches see 2135 02:17:52,530 --> 02:17:57,210 that. Every little bit counted. And then we made a difference 2136 02:17:57,270 --> 02:18:01,470 together. Like we got out here and got people to vote in 2137 02:18:01,470 --> 02:18:06,060 Georgia changed to blue. And I was just happy to see it because 2138 02:18:06,060 --> 02:18:08,490 it was so many people. I was like, yo, we got to vote we got 2139 02:18:08,490 --> 02:18:11,520 to vote is like my vote on count. Why would I waste my 2140 02:18:11,520 --> 02:18:16,050 time? And just to see that, you know, it made me feel good. And 2141 02:18:16,050 --> 02:18:19,170 then back to the Joe Biden thing. I was really just acting 2142 02:18:19,170 --> 02:18:21,660 real courses. And I want my people to know like, sometimes 2143 02:18:21,660 --> 02:18:25,800 you really just got to be at the table. Oh, man. Okay, meme after 2144 02:18:25,800 --> 02:18:27,630 meme in this one. First. 2145 02:18:29,010 --> 02:18:32,490 Rosenberg All right, nice, smelly, anti semitic reference. 2146 02:18:32,940 --> 02:18:35,490 But also who, who posed the question. 2147 02:18:37,380 --> 02:18:42,000 Was Rosenberg was Rosenberg correct? Yeah. Then 2148 02:18:43,170 --> 02:18:44,700 he talked about his coaches. 2149 02:18:45,870 --> 02:18:49,410 So that was interesting. So whoever said coaches he wanted 2150 02:18:49,410 --> 02:18:52,470 to show the coaches what he could do. He thought he said the 2151 02:18:52,470 --> 02:18:55,980 culture I thought he said coaches Oh, the closure. Now he 2152 02:18:55,980 --> 02:18:59,670 said that culture now then. Culture now? Oh, yes. Well, of 2153 02:18:59,670 --> 02:19:00,630 course he does. 2154 02:19:01,710 --> 02:19:02,640 He and Stacy 2155 02:19:04,290 --> 02:19:04,950 represented 2156 02:19:06,510 --> 02:19:11,730 and Camila Jo's work wife. Oh, man. Yeah. He really had amazed 2157 02:19:11,730 --> 02:19:14,640 that. I mean, it's that's not acceptable. What he said, no 2158 02:19:14,640 --> 02:19:17,760 one. No one buys that crap. 2159 02:19:18,930 --> 02:19:22,350 Not at all. And the other thing is, he says that he had a lot of 2160 02:19:22,350 --> 02:19:26,160 questions for Joe in the sea of giocare. And he kind of poopoo 2161 02:19:26,160 --> 02:19:27,000 this and he didn't 2162 02:19:28,770 --> 02:19:29,310 you know, those 2163 02:19:30,780 --> 02:19:33,630 black man, innocent black man, you know, you know, not like 2164 02:19:33,630 --> 02:19:36,240 that. But I had real question for Joe like, Am I black? Vote 2165 02:19:36,240 --> 02:19:40,590 for you? Yeah, he went mad. He went up there. She showed us 2166 02:19:40,590 --> 02:19:43,110 culture card and said this is who I am. You know me I 2167 02:19:43,110 --> 02:19:46,020 represent the culture. Let me just check. check you out, man. 2168 02:19:46,020 --> 02:19:50,250 So it was kind of an approval. And then the last talking point 2169 02:19:50,250 --> 02:19:53,070 was we need to be at the table table. Yeah. Oh, that was good. 2170 02:19:53,640 --> 02:19:57,750 The table. So that leads me into the bob Wilson clip that you 2171 02:19:57,750 --> 02:19:59,400 snagged and shared with me. 2172 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:03,720 These, these leaders, first of all, you cannot generalize about 2173 02:20:03,720 --> 02:20:06,060 the black community any more any other people, we are not 2174 02:20:06,060 --> 02:20:10,080 monolithic. We have a difference in education difference in 2175 02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:15,450 income. And when it's convenient, we generalize the 2176 02:20:15,450 --> 02:20:19,350 black community. And we use the demographics of those who are 2177 02:20:19,350 --> 02:20:23,370 living in the most troubling situations, we use the 2178 02:20:23,370 --> 02:20:28,020 demographics of, of incarceration, of low income, 2179 02:20:28,500 --> 02:20:34,770 housing, we use that demographic information to make a case that 2180 02:20:34,770 --> 02:20:40,050 All Blacks are suffering. And then when the money arise, it 2181 02:20:40,050 --> 02:20:44,040 goes not to the people suffering the problem. But those who are 2182 02:20:44,040 --> 02:20:47,880 providing service. For instance, in the last 50 years, the 2183 02:20:47,880 --> 02:20:52,290 government's had $22 trillion in programs to aid the poor 70 2184 02:20:52,290 --> 02:20:55,800 cents of all those dollar go not to the poor, but those who serve 2185 02:20:55,800 --> 02:20:58,590 poor people, they asked not which problems are solvable, 2186 02:20:58,620 --> 02:21:01,380 which ones are fundable. Then you have black elected 2187 02:21:01,380 --> 02:21:03,720 officials, many of them are veterans of the civil rights 2188 02:21:03,720 --> 02:21:07,830 movement, who then came into political office, they were the 2189 02:21:07,830 --> 02:21:11,880 ones who were dispensing those funds. And listen to this, two 2190 02:21:11,880 --> 02:21:16,110 out of 10 whites who, with college degrees works for 2191 02:21:16,110 --> 02:21:19,920 government, six out of 10 blacks, with college education 2192 02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:24,360 works for government, which means that the vast amount of 2193 02:21:24,360 --> 02:21:28,410 money that has been spent on the poor that has produced and 2194 02:21:28,410 --> 02:21:34,140 reinforced dependency have been administered by a lot of middle 2195 02:21:34,140 --> 02:21:35,700 class blacks. 2196 02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:40,890 That's your systemic racism right there. And can you point 2197 02:21:40,890 --> 02:21:44,670 out something speaking of synchronicity, look at the title 2198 02:21:44,670 --> 02:21:45,450 of that clip. 2199 02:21:47,040 --> 02:21:47,580 Yeah. 2200 02:21:48,900 --> 02:21:53,850 at Atlanta leaders, abuse of demographics hidden. Atlanta 2201 02:21:53,850 --> 02:21:55,020 leaders, holy crap. 2202 02:21:56,250 --> 02:21:59,580 I wanted to identify something that I'm sure is just from, from 2203 02:21:59,580 --> 02:22:03,210 my perspective, the term culture, I'm seeing it pop up in 2204 02:22:03,210 --> 02:22:08,310 advertising. It meant meant as the code I mean, I know, I know, 2205 02:22:08,310 --> 02:22:11,400 like, Oh, hello, I'm just seeing it. But I've noticed it the 2206 02:22:11,400 --> 02:22:15,120 past, I don't know, past month or so I've just seen this term 2207 02:22:15,300 --> 02:22:17,700 culture pop up in advertising. 2208 02:22:18,810 --> 02:22:21,360 Yeah, do it for the culture. stuff. Like that's, that's, 2209 02:22:21,540 --> 02:22:24,660 that's the quotable, that's the hip hop quotable. from Jay Z. 2210 02:22:25,680 --> 02:22:29,100 I did it for the culture. I mean, like I said, these things 2211 02:22:29,100 --> 02:22:33,930 when, when these quotables Take Take care, they're powerful. 2212 02:22:35,130 --> 02:22:40,560 They go for generations. So So we have, so that's what Jesus 2213 02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:44,280 has fallen into. He's falling into that group, just by 2214 02:22:44,280 --> 02:22:48,660 perspective of he's gonna say that they tried to use ti for 2215 02:22:48,660 --> 02:22:53,970 this. And like I said, ti has so many other things going on. That 2216 02:22:53,970 --> 02:22:56,760 ruin that kind of ruin his chances of being that 2217 02:22:57,810 --> 02:23:01,950 hip hop political leader. So now I think they're grooming Jeezy. 2218 02:23:02,460 --> 02:23:07,020 And excuse me, Jay Jenkins, let me let me get it. Right. Right. 2219 02:23:07,800 --> 02:23:13,260 Yeah. And he's married to a Asian lady from the view, which 2220 02:23:13,260 --> 02:23:17,700 I think was a power move planet. Lady from that view, but the 2221 02:23:17,700 --> 02:23:18,450 real the real 2222 02:23:19,530 --> 02:23:24,300 is gonna say okay, ah, power couple. Yeah, so they've tried 2223 02:23:24,300 --> 02:23:28,020 to make a political power couple, I believe. Um, so just 2224 02:23:28,020 --> 02:23:32,010 just keep on so now he's got a follow up. gz. So I mean, 2225 02:23:33,540 --> 02:23:37,260 I saw and then and just icing on the cake. He came out with a 2226 02:23:37,260 --> 02:23:41,760 diss song right after this, this thing. Little Wayne and 50 2227 02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:46,500 cents. Oh, but Trump goes yeah, Gee, I wonder I wonder why. 2228 02:23:50,040 --> 02:23:55,140 So, how sick, sick is that? I didn't realize that. 2229 02:23:56,250 --> 02:24:00,510 That's just nuts. Yeah, none of this is by happenstance. Oh, no, 2230 02:24:00,510 --> 02:24:04,800 no, it's not. Now you understand why I laid out the trap and the 2231 02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:08,880 trap. Yeah, it wasn't about the verses. It's about the two 2232 02:24:09,060 --> 02:24:13,860 trajectories that these stars these celebrities own. So now 2233 02:24:13,860 --> 02:24:17,760 that's where Jeezy is headed, in my opinion. And now this is 2234 02:24:17,790 --> 02:24:22,800 Gucci man. And he is a this is a conversation he had with 2235 02:24:23,580 --> 02:24:27,060 Charlemagne about his transformation. Yeah, I was 2236 02:24:27,060 --> 02:24:28,800 telling you, man, when I read your story, it's like the 2237 02:24:28,800 --> 02:24:32,940 evolution of Malcolm X and a lot of ways you did it all. But you 2238 02:24:33,060 --> 02:24:33,660 must mean 2239 02:24:34,890 --> 02:24:39,120 I went out. Well, you know, I can't say I'm as disciplined as 2240 02:24:39,120 --> 02:24:42,060 Malcolm X. But I do I read that book does one of my favorite 2241 02:24:42,060 --> 02:24:44,760 autobiographies and it definitely inspired me because I 2242 02:24:44,760 --> 02:24:48,000 read when I was in prison and I damn from you sound like he 2243 02:24:48,180 --> 02:24:50,760 couldn't really really good he opened up the dictionary to a 2244 02:24:50,760 --> 02:24:53,550 and just start reading it in our stuff. He was going through in 2245 02:24:53,550 --> 02:24:57,870 prison and you know to do he had and now like, given them gang. A 2246 02:24:57,870 --> 02:25:00,000 lot of things he went through. I feel like you know, I share some 2247 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,670 Those experiences don't just walk in prison that made you 2248 02:25:02,670 --> 02:25:06,900 start picking up just books and reading them. I think it started 2249 02:25:06,900 --> 02:25:10,830 with, like, fear, anxiety, paranoia from like, 2250 02:25:11,910 --> 02:25:14,760 you know how much time off in the game. So out of run into 2251 02:25:14,760 --> 02:25:17,220 reading out, I was kind of like a mouth trying to find some 2252 02:25:17,220 --> 02:25:20,520 solace in, you know, this shows a lot of pressure on me is like, 2253 02:25:20,550 --> 02:25:23,880 I run up and down the stairs, I read a book, I try and do 2254 02:25:23,880 --> 02:25:27,570 anything to get my mind off from, you know, feeling like I 2255 02:25:27,570 --> 02:25:29,580 know the future because the future seemed like it was going 2256 02:25:29,580 --> 02:25:32,400 to be bad, you know. So I just kind of like focus on what I 2257 02:25:32,400 --> 02:25:35,400 could do now. They'll kind of give me a little piece thing 2258 02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:38,400 feel about it. And now you feel like I have a set of rules I had 2259 02:25:38,400 --> 02:25:41,640 to live by. If you do this to me, I do this to you. If you say 2260 02:25:41,640 --> 02:25:45,330 this to me, I do. So as always, I'm justified. You snitch on me, 2261 02:25:45,330 --> 02:25:47,820 I push to hurt you. You steal some from me, I'm supposed to 2262 02:25:47,820 --> 02:25:51,150 come to your house. And you hit me up with teach you but you 2263 02:25:51,150 --> 02:25:53,640 know. And then it gets to the point where you start like, 2264 02:25:53,640 --> 02:25:57,030 well, she, I'm already into it, which I will going I'll finish 2265 02:25:57,030 --> 02:26:00,210 while I'm waiting for you to hit me for so it is just a terrible 2266 02:26:00,210 --> 02:26:02,730 place to be. A lot of that is great rules, though. Yeah, don't 2267 02:26:02,730 --> 02:26:05,550 say this, that I had a set of rules like that I like follow to 2268 02:26:05,550 --> 02:26:09,300 the tee. But I made myself follow these rules. I nobody say 2269 02:26:09,300 --> 02:26:12,240 this, what you got to do these what I feel like this house is 2270 02:26:12,240 --> 02:26:14,400 the person I want to be this what I want to be held to the 2271 02:26:14,400 --> 02:26:17,820 standard. I'm going to start at the end and work my way back. 2272 02:26:18,300 --> 02:26:21,750 When he went to jail for the last time he made a total 2273 02:26:21,750 --> 02:26:25,980 transformation. Physically. I mean, when he went in, I think 2274 02:26:25,980 --> 02:26:30,960 he was saying he was like 85 pounds overweight, addicted to 2275 02:26:30,960 --> 02:26:32,460 lean. Oh, 2276 02:26:33,990 --> 02:26:38,730 yeah, no, no, no, he was addicted. I'm listening. Yeah, 2277 02:26:38,730 --> 02:26:44,730 he was addicted to lean and unhealthy mentally. And he 2278 02:26:44,760 --> 02:26:50,430 changed himself. And he blamed nobody for he was like, I was 2279 02:26:50,430 --> 02:26:54,090 like this, I live these rules and the rules he laid out the 2280 02:26:54,090 --> 02:26:57,570 street rules is that mine trap. And he explained, 2281 02:26:58,650 --> 02:27:01,320 I felt if you did this to me, I need to do this to you. Right? 2282 02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:07,290 To practice about it, you know, preemptive strikes. So 2283 02:27:09,030 --> 02:27:13,620 but when he went in, he transfer on did this transformation 2284 02:27:13,620 --> 02:27:17,190 similar to what Malcolm X did. And I'm not saying he's the next 2285 02:27:17,190 --> 02:27:19,920 Malcolm, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, you 2286 02:27:19,920 --> 02:27:22,440 look at these two men, 2287 02:27:23,490 --> 02:27:28,260 and the path they're taking Warren is saying, uh, you know, 2288 02:27:28,620 --> 02:27:31,650 going through the politics, which Jesus laid out the point, 2289 02:27:31,650 --> 02:27:34,350 he's always been corporate minded, being part of the 2290 02:27:34,350 --> 02:27:38,130 structure the apparatus, and you have this guy, Gucci man was 2291 02:27:38,790 --> 02:27:42,960 independent, this kind of thing. And then he goes in, and he does 2292 02:27:42,960 --> 02:27:47,700 his complete 180. To the point where he comes out and shape on 2293 02:27:47,700 --> 02:27:53,550 top of his business, I mean, complete, utter change. And it 2294 02:27:53,550 --> 02:27:55,680 was, he changed himself. 2295 02:27:57,360 --> 02:28:02,940 And if I had to choose a path for so called black man, it's 2296 02:28:03,180 --> 02:28:08,970 changed yourself. I'm going with the Gucci Gucci man message of 2297 02:28:09,270 --> 02:28:14,160 don't wait for somebody to change you change yourself, um, 2298 02:28:14,820 --> 02:28:18,870 be reflected on what things that don't work for you. And that's 2299 02:28:18,870 --> 02:28:21,780 why that's why I'm just, I wanted to lay that out. So you 2300 02:28:21,780 --> 02:28:27,060 probably wondering why somebody like Stacey Abrams, and a Dr. 2301 02:28:27,060 --> 02:28:32,040 Carr and Karen Hunter, and all these people are, are 2302 02:28:34,140 --> 02:28:38,460 wanting the influence of these celebrities? Well, not only 2303 02:28:38,610 --> 02:28:42,600 they're not celebrities, they're street celebrities. I have the 2304 02:28:42,600 --> 02:28:45,540 answer for you. Okay, you want to say something before we ask 2305 02:28:45,540 --> 02:28:48,420 any questions before we go? I know I said a lot with Well, 2306 02:28:50,190 --> 02:28:54,570 I mean, why? And that was kind of obvious. They they want to, I 2307 02:28:54,570 --> 02:28:54,840 mean, 2308 02:28:55,860 --> 02:28:59,040 what I heard Stacy saying was Indiana encouraged you to vote. 2309 02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:03,540 So you'd think that but I have a feeling it's bigger, maybe 2310 02:29:03,540 --> 02:29:08,880 deeper. It is deeper 29. I knew that the great lack of most of 2311 02:29:08,880 --> 02:29:12,570 the big name Negro leaders was their lack of any true rapport 2312 02:29:12,990 --> 02:29:16,440 with the ghetto negros. How could they have rapport when 2313 02:29:16,440 --> 02:29:20,430 they spend most of their time integrating with white people? I 2314 02:29:20,430 --> 02:29:23,940 knew that the ghetto people knew that I never left the ghetto in 2315 02:29:23,940 --> 02:29:26,610 spirit, and I never lived it physically any more than I had 2316 02:29:26,610 --> 02:29:26,940 to. 2317 02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:31,860 I had a ghetto instinct. For instance, I could feel the 2318 02:29:31,890 --> 02:29:34,770 tension was beyond normal in the ghetto audience, and I could 2319 02:29:34,770 --> 02:29:38,220 speak and understand the ghettos language. There was an example 2320 02:29:38,220 --> 02:29:40,800 of this that always flew into my mind every time I heard some of 2321 02:29:40,800 --> 02:29:43,830 the big name Negro leaders declaring they spoke for the 2322 02:29:43,830 --> 02:29:47,490 ghetto black people. After a Harlem street rally one of these 2323 02:29:47,490 --> 02:29:50,850 downtown leaders and our ghetto hustler is forever frustrated, 2324 02:29:50,850 --> 02:29:54,990 restless and anxious for some action to talk over the ABC, CBS 2325 02:29:54,990 --> 02:29:58,800 or NBC microphones at Harvard or Tuskegee, I could talk with the 2326 02:29:58,800 --> 02:29:59,970 so called middle class name 2327 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:03,210 grew up with the ghetto blacks from all the other leaders just 2328 02:30:03,210 --> 02:30:06,990 talked about. And because I had been a hustler, I knew better 2329 02:30:06,990 --> 02:30:09,840 than all whites knew. And better than nearly all the black 2330 02:30:09,840 --> 02:30:13,080 leaders knew that actually the most dangerous black man in 2331 02:30:13,080 --> 02:30:15,780 America was the ghetto hustler. 2332 02:30:16,949 --> 02:30:18,209 Why do I say this? 2333 02:30:19,590 --> 02:30:22,350 The hustler out there in the ghetto jungles has less respect 2334 02:30:22,350 --> 02:30:24,690 for the white power structure than any other Negro in North 2335 02:30:24,690 --> 02:30:28,410 America. The ghetto hustler is internally restrained by 2336 02:30:28,410 --> 02:30:31,830 nothing. He has no religion, no concept of morality, no civic 2337 02:30:31,830 --> 02:30:36,390 responsibility, no fear, nothing. So this is why they're 2338 02:30:36,390 --> 02:30:41,820 clamoring for the support of street celebrities, right? 2339 02:30:42,840 --> 02:30:47,190 Because if they ever can change their mind, like malcolm x, d, 2340 02:30:47,790 --> 02:30:50,820 you got it, you got to remember Malcolm X wasn't Malcolm X, but 2341 02:30:50,820 --> 02:30:54,750 for a very small portion of his life. In that small town, the 2342 02:30:54,750 --> 02:30:59,760 potency is kind of a control thing. When they have to control 2343 02:30:59,760 --> 02:31:03,450 the minds of the street people, because they realize 2344 02:31:04,800 --> 02:31:07,770 that they can change their mind, then they come off the 2345 02:31:07,770 --> 02:31:13,170 plantation. Right? So okay, so. So it sounds like there's not 2346 02:31:13,170 --> 02:31:17,820 necessarily good things in store for gucci mane. If he pushes the 2347 02:31:17,880 --> 02:31:20,700 envelope too far, I don't like to put that kind of negativity 2348 02:31:20,730 --> 02:31:21,420 out there. 2349 02:31:22,710 --> 02:31:27,390 But if you start changing people's mind too fast, you've 2350 02:31:27,390 --> 02:31:29,640 seen it happen over the course of this show, you see what 2351 02:31:29,640 --> 02:31:31,140 happens? Exactly. 2352 02:31:32,430 --> 02:31:36,480 Are you? Yeah, they come, they come for your, um, 2353 02:31:37,560 --> 02:31:41,430 your image first. And if they can't get your image, and that's 2354 02:31:41,430 --> 02:31:43,440 the thing they could that's the problem with Malcolm X, because 2355 02:31:43,470 --> 02:31:47,220 all his stuff was out there. All his previous life was out there. 2356 02:31:47,550 --> 02:31:50,190 Oh, if you want to juxtapose that, to, like, Martin Luther 2357 02:31:50,190 --> 02:31:54,990 King, right, his image could be damaged by whatever secrets he 2358 02:31:54,990 --> 02:31:56,670 had or supposedly had. 2359 02:31:58,110 --> 02:32:02,430 Then it goes to, you know, it's like the silver or the lead kind 2360 02:32:02,430 --> 02:32:05,670 of thing. First day BRAVIA with silver and if they can't change 2361 02:32:05,670 --> 02:32:09,120 your mind and a little Labs is the option. 2362 02:32:10,200 --> 02:32:12,510 But I don't want to put that out there. But I just want to show 2363 02:32:12,510 --> 02:32:15,270 you what is this is why 2364 02:32:16,470 --> 02:32:17,760 the inner city, 2365 02:32:19,080 --> 02:32:20,160 black man, 2366 02:32:22,050 --> 02:32:23,040 or the 2367 02:32:25,980 --> 02:32:29,700 want to say interceding I want to say something. It's something 2368 02:32:29,700 --> 02:32:33,690 about a person that says, you know, what, I know the risk of 2369 02:32:34,080 --> 02:32:41,130 doing a said activity. But I am going to take my own life in my 2370 02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:44,760 own hands because I can't live in squalor. Sure, and I can't 2371 02:32:44,760 --> 02:32:49,230 live in poverty. So now, like you said, if you could take that 2372 02:32:49,740 --> 02:32:54,840 same mentality, and weaponize it with actual knowledge, it's very 2373 02:32:54,840 --> 02:33:00,060 dangerous. That's why right now Malcolm X is way more potent. He 2374 02:33:00,060 --> 02:33:02,340 wasn't reading Martin Luther King, notice no naka, Martin 2375 02:33:02,340 --> 02:33:04,530 Luther King, but he wasn't reading Martin Luther King when 2376 02:33:04,530 --> 02:33:05,850 he went to prison, right. 2377 02:33:07,740 --> 02:33:13,710 It's because Malcolm X spoke the street lingo. And he spoke to 2378 02:33:13,710 --> 02:33:16,350 the street people, and he never lost that connection. And I 2379 02:33:16,350 --> 02:33:20,310 think Jesus man has the same potential. Because the young 2380 02:33:20,310 --> 02:33:22,770 kids love him, he still had the career to this day. 2381 02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:25,470 The young people love him. 2382 02:33:26,490 --> 02:33:30,060 Because he never he that tether is there, you know, he never 2383 02:33:30,630 --> 02:33:31,680 severed that tether. 2384 02:33:34,980 --> 02:33:40,140 And I know it's a lot to take in. But no, I'm following along. 2385 02:33:40,290 --> 02:33:43,980 I'm just wondering if we're gonna get a MLK versus Malcolm X 2386 02:33:43,980 --> 02:33:46,230 type split here. I don't know if that's in the cards. 2387 02:33:47,490 --> 02:33:50,400 I don't think it's in the cards, but I'm thinking these are 2388 02:33:50,430 --> 02:33:54,930 representations of these are. I don't know if icons, the right 2389 02:33:54,930 --> 02:33:58,950 word, but these are representation of the two kind 2390 02:33:58,950 --> 02:34:03,090 of black men that exists now. Right. And so clearly, the one 2391 02:34:03,090 --> 02:34:07,230 who goes reforms himself comes out with a different attitude, 2392 02:34:07,230 --> 02:34:10,710 different message, no longer mine trapped. Tis a problem for 2393 02:34:10,710 --> 02:34:11,820 Stacey Abrams. 2394 02:34:13,170 --> 02:34:16,530 He's a problem for a lot of people because you're talking 2395 02:34:16,530 --> 02:34:19,890 about ruining the bottom. Yeah, we're not just talking about the 2396 02:34:19,890 --> 02:34:23,010 voting habits of people. We're talking about ruining the 2397 02:34:23,010 --> 02:34:27,510 bottom, which if you destroyed a foundation of a home, right. 2398 02:34:30,840 --> 02:34:34,200 And I know it's a lot, but I guess we can go back a minute. 2399 02:34:34,500 --> 02:34:37,320 This is the reading from Malcolm X's. I didn't say that before. 2400 02:34:37,500 --> 02:34:40,620 This is the reading from The Autobiography of Malcolm X. I 2401 02:34:40,620 --> 02:34:43,650 guess we by Joe Morton, misplaced respect his name, and 2402 02:34:43,650 --> 02:34:47,310 let's get into 4.2. To survive. He is out there constantly 2403 02:34:47,310 --> 02:34:50,580 preying upon others probing for any human weaknesses like a 2404 02:34:50,580 --> 02:34:54,060 ferret. The ghetto hustler is forever frustrated, restless and 2405 02:34:54,090 --> 02:34:57,210 anxious for some action. Whatever he undertakes, he 2406 02:34:57,210 --> 02:34:59,970 commits himself to it fully apps 2407 02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:00,690 lewdly 2408 02:35:01,740 --> 02:35:04,050 what makes the ghetto hustler yet more dangerous is his 2409 02:35:04,050 --> 02:35:07,680 glamour image to the school dropout youth in the ghetto. 2410 02:35:08,160 --> 02:35:11,100 These ghetto teenagers see the hell caught by their parents 2411 02:35:11,100 --> 02:35:13,920 struggling to get some way or see that they have given up 2412 02:35:13,920 --> 02:35:16,920 struggling in the prejudiced intolerant white man's world. 2413 02:35:17,250 --> 02:35:20,010 The ghetto teenagers make up their own minds that they would 2414 02:35:20,010 --> 02:35:23,430 rather be like the hustler, who they see dressed sharp and 2415 02:35:23,430 --> 02:35:26,040 flashing money and display and no respect for anybody or 2416 02:35:26,040 --> 02:35:29,610 anything. So the ghetto youth become attracted to the hustler 2417 02:35:29,610 --> 02:35:33,390 worlds of dope, thievery prostitution in general crime 2418 02:35:33,390 --> 02:35:38,490 and immorality. Yeah, this guy Malcolm was perfect. And I'm not 2419 02:35:38,490 --> 02:35:44,130 talking about on the divine sense. But his understanding of 2420 02:35:45,660 --> 02:35:48,180 the social dynamic 2421 02:35:49,260 --> 02:35:50,310 to be on, 2422 02:35:51,360 --> 02:35:55,350 formally educated. And that's, that is so many and that's why I 2423 02:35:55,350 --> 02:35:58,290 don't buy it. I gotta say some because it's what irks me, 2424 02:35:59,340 --> 02:36:02,700 is this thing floating around this meme of Pookie and Ray Ray. 2425 02:36:03,390 --> 02:36:04,920 And what that is, is like, 2426 02:36:06,060 --> 02:36:10,200 you would consider like a Gucci man and Jeezy and these guys is 2427 02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:13,050 Pookie and Ray Ray's right. They're no good. They have no 2428 02:36:13,050 --> 02:36:17,940 value to society. Right? But bro, the only reason I'm sitting 2429 02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:22,680 here 40 years old. And the you know, the the biggest success I 2430 02:36:22,680 --> 02:36:25,260 have is my father. 2431 02:36:27,300 --> 02:36:31,410 Is the the P undergird me with a 2432 02:36:33,780 --> 02:36:37,350 confidence. We also didn't enter safety, a sense of safety, you 2433 02:36:37,350 --> 02:36:40,260 didn't need to go out and find that male energy. 2434 02:36:42,720 --> 02:36:45,510 And so that's what we're saying. That's why I play the game clips 2435 02:36:45,510 --> 02:36:49,080 in the small town Pep, because if you don't have that energy 2436 02:36:49,080 --> 02:36:52,530 inside the home, you'll get it out. So it's like this guy has 2437 02:36:52,530 --> 02:36:57,090 the money. And he beat the system. And you know, like, 2438 02:36:57,660 --> 02:37:00,240 here's, here's the everybody thinks that 2439 02:37:02,220 --> 02:37:05,130 all these rappers are gangsters and they're this and they're 2440 02:37:05,130 --> 02:37:08,760 that to those kids. They're Robinhood. Because that's what 2441 02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:11,670 they're selling. I'm not saying they're actually are. But that's 2442 02:37:11,670 --> 02:37:15,570 what they're selling to the kids. That were Robin Hood Robin 2443 02:37:15,570 --> 02:37:18,420 from the rich and given to the poor, which that's not the case, 2444 02:37:18,420 --> 02:37:20,220 because all the resources you're taking. 2445 02:37:22,380 --> 02:37:23,070 Have this. 2446 02:37:24,360 --> 02:37:29,820 Right. But in the mind chap. Yep. is he's beating the man. 2447 02:37:29,880 --> 02:37:31,440 He's beating white supremacy. 2448 02:37:33,180 --> 02:37:35,730 You know, because he's, this is why they're celebrating because 2449 02:37:35,730 --> 02:37:38,220 he's getting paid. Therefore he's beating the system. He's 2450 02:37:38,220 --> 02:37:39,870 going around it. Yeah. 2451 02:37:41,820 --> 02:37:46,020 And like I said before, about, as the guy I was talking about, 2452 02:37:46,380 --> 02:37:50,190 that I had close proximity to when you're buying all the food, 2453 02:37:50,190 --> 02:37:52,950 and you're a kid, you know, saying, Here's just a couple 2454 02:37:52,950 --> 02:37:56,790 $100 for some gym shoes, or let me sponsor this, this basketball 2455 02:37:56,790 --> 02:37:59,070 team. It's not all bad. 2456 02:38:00,180 --> 02:38:03,840 I keep saying before El Chapo was celebrated in his community, 2457 02:38:03,960 --> 02:38:08,340 no matter how much harm and murder he brought to Mexico, and 2458 02:38:08,340 --> 02:38:12,480 his community, he was celebrated. Because he took care 2459 02:38:12,480 --> 02:38:16,380 of them. But at a larger level. That's the same in politics, 2460 02:38:16,380 --> 02:38:19,230 it's the same people are celebrated because they've done 2461 02:38:19,230 --> 02:38:21,840 such great things. And they can be incredible gangsters and 2462 02:38:21,840 --> 02:38:24,480 crooks under under the hood. Many are. 2463 02:38:27,810 --> 02:38:33,150 But if you're secure in the bag, for your, for your the people 2464 02:38:33,150 --> 02:38:36,420 that support you. It's like screw the other side. That's why 2465 02:38:36,420 --> 02:38:37,980 politics is very 2466 02:38:40,680 --> 02:38:45,120 similar to street culture and gang culture. Because this is 2467 02:38:45,120 --> 02:38:48,810 about what can I do for the people that support me? 2468 02:38:49,860 --> 02:38:53,790 I mean, I know I went a little farther, but I wanted this 2469 02:38:53,790 --> 02:38:57,750 Pookie and right. It's a lot of redeemable people, and all walks 2470 02:38:57,750 --> 02:39:01,410 of life. And then there's other people that we think have made 2471 02:39:01,410 --> 02:39:03,840 it that need to be caught out. Because if you're trying to use 2472 02:39:03,840 --> 02:39:08,280 your celebrity, just to subjugate people further. That's 2473 02:39:08,280 --> 02:39:10,950 why I don't have a problem with anybody I bring up on the show 2474 02:39:10,950 --> 02:39:14,250 personally. But if that's what you're trying to do, and not 2475 02:39:14,250 --> 02:39:16,380 have people be self reliant, and 2476 02:39:17,640 --> 02:39:22,080 therefore your enemy, your enemy of the state is not enemy of the 2477 02:39:22,080 --> 02:39:22,680 culture. 2478 02:39:23,820 --> 02:39:26,910 Right? It's not for the not for the culture, your for your 2479 02:39:26,940 --> 02:39:32,550 benefit. And as Bob Woodson laid out, so I guess we can also to 2480 02:39:32,550 --> 02:39:35,880 fulfill his own mind trap. You're in, you're in that trap, 2481 02:39:35,880 --> 02:39:39,360 you're in a loop, you got to keep going. The trap is on both 2482 02:39:39,360 --> 02:39:39,960 sides. 2483 02:39:41,370 --> 02:39:46,350 And I'm glad you grabbed my opener home. If you see yourself 2484 02:39:46,350 --> 02:39:50,850 as Robin Hood. It's like oh yeah, let me go secure this for 2485 02:39:50,850 --> 02:39:56,040 the people and bring it back to them. by them voting. We can get 2486 02:39:56,040 --> 02:39:59,070 some government programs and things of that nature. If you 2487 02:39:59,100 --> 02:40:00,000 become self reliant. 2488 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:04,500 And form your own community and work inside your own community, 2489 02:40:04,650 --> 02:40:08,340 we can have much more. And if we realize our power voting and 2490 02:40:08,340 --> 02:40:11,700 spending and even with this, what were the biggest things I 2491 02:40:11,700 --> 02:40:17,370 celebrate Gucci for his his physical transformation, because 2492 02:40:17,370 --> 02:40:20,610 this is what really as black people, at the end of the day, 2493 02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:24,690 one of the biggest problems is our health is what we consume. 2494 02:40:25,050 --> 02:40:28,170 And you see it play out with COVID. And we mentioned that 2495 02:40:28,170 --> 02:40:32,430 before so even the changing of the physical kiss changing of 2496 02:40:32,430 --> 02:40:35,580 his mind has reflected in his changing of his physical 2497 02:40:35,580 --> 02:40:38,040 appearance now is this Now I'm not saying like I said, I'm not 2498 02:40:38,070 --> 02:40:40,560 celebrating him as a malcolmus. I'm not doing that. But all I'm 2499 02:40:40,560 --> 02:40:44,760 saying is progress is progress. Now he says recognized besides 2500 02:40:44,760 --> 02:40:48,210 you, obviously. But people say Damn, he got his shit together. 2501 02:40:48,210 --> 02:40:52,590 This is good. This is looking good. He's this and do people 2502 02:40:52,590 --> 02:40:56,370 see it as a release valve a way out? It's a possibility. Is that 2503 02:40:56,640 --> 02:40:57,510 recognized? 2504 02:40:58,890 --> 02:41:02,490 Yeah. Ever Charlemagne had to give him credit. Right? Wow, you 2505 02:41:02,490 --> 02:41:05,940 really turn it around, and he beat the mind trap. And then my 2506 02:41:05,940 --> 02:41:07,590 trap being I have? 2507 02:41:10,350 --> 02:41:14,790 No, I'll go long winter's day. But we have to understand this. 2508 02:41:15,330 --> 02:41:18,690 The rules and what we call a street is really penitentiary 2509 02:41:18,690 --> 02:41:22,350 rules. You look at you lock people up, they turn into 2510 02:41:22,350 --> 02:41:26,730 animals. And it's, you look to me the wrong way. And when you 2511 02:41:26,730 --> 02:41:30,330 have people fresh out of being institutionalized, and bring 2512 02:41:30,330 --> 02:41:33,000 that mentality back to the hood, it's like you looked at me the 2513 02:41:33,000 --> 02:41:35,580 wrong way. I got it. I got to do something about that right now. 2514 02:41:35,970 --> 02:41:38,280 And I'm not saying it's like I said, this is not something I've 2515 02:41:38,280 --> 02:41:41,880 heard or read in a book. people when they come home from jail, 2516 02:41:41,880 --> 02:41:46,800 they until they get acclimated back into this society. They 2517 02:41:46,800 --> 02:41:48,480 have a whole different 2518 02:41:49,890 --> 02:41:53,250 Tom they move on. Yeah, well, that's a whole different 2519 02:41:53,250 --> 02:41:57,900 mentality as as a country, but it's the same in every country, 2520 02:41:57,900 --> 02:42:01,740 we're very poor at at, at helping people get back into 2521 02:42:01,740 --> 02:42:04,770 quote, unquote, civilian life, whether you're coming from the 2522 02:42:04,770 --> 02:42:08,010 military, or whether you're coming from the penitentiary, it 2523 02:42:08,010 --> 02:42:11,130 doesn't matter. Neither. Neither one. I mean, I, I know friends 2524 02:42:11,130 --> 02:42:17,070 who've been to penitentiary and the the process is, and this is 2525 02:42:17,070 --> 02:42:21,030 a white guy for white collar crime. And in this is, you know, 2526 02:42:21,390 --> 02:42:24,330 good friend of mine, because he's been out for three years, 2527 02:42:24,330 --> 02:42:28,020 this still can't get his life really back together. And the 2528 02:42:28,020 --> 02:42:31,080 military is another great example, because you're 2529 02:42:31,140 --> 02:42:32,910 operating on a different 2530 02:42:34,590 --> 02:42:38,370 wavelength when you're in life or death situations correct. And 2531 02:42:38,370 --> 02:42:42,570 being institutionalized and being a military. Well, when I 2532 02:42:42,570 --> 02:42:47,610 say, pot situations during the military, you don't have time to 2533 02:42:47,610 --> 02:42:51,000 make, I mean, I'm just being, you know, with family members 2534 02:42:51,000 --> 02:42:56,220 that were in wars, when they first come home, you can't 2535 02:42:56,670 --> 02:43:00,570 approach them in a certain way. You can't just starve them in a 2536 02:43:00,570 --> 02:43:01,830 certain way. So 2537 02:43:03,390 --> 02:43:07,170 long winded on that we can go ahead and jump to 32. It scared 2538 02:43:07,170 --> 02:43:09,570 me the first time I really saw the danger of these ghetto 2539 02:43:09,570 --> 02:43:13,170 teenagers if they are ever sparked into violence. One 2540 02:43:13,200 --> 02:43:16,260 sweltering summer afternoon, I attended a home street rally 2541 02:43:16,260 --> 02:43:19,350 which contained a lot of these teenagers in the crowd. I had 2542 02:43:19,350 --> 02:43:22,680 been invited by some responsible Negro leaders who normally never 2543 02:43:22,680 --> 02:43:25,980 spoke to me. I knew they had just used my name to help them 2544 02:43:25,980 --> 02:43:28,800 draw a crowd. The more I thought about it on the way there, the 2545 02:43:28,800 --> 02:43:31,620 hotter I got. And when I got on the stand, I just told the crowd 2546 02:43:31,620 --> 02:43:34,170 in the street that I wasn't really wanted up there that my 2547 02:43:34,170 --> 02:43:38,040 name had been used, and I walked off the speakers stand. Well, 2548 02:43:38,430 --> 02:43:42,180 what did I want to do that for? Those young teenage negros got 2549 02:43:42,210 --> 02:43:45,720 upset and started milling around and yell and upset and the old 2550 02:43:45,750 --> 02:43:48,600 Negroes in the crowd. The first thing you know, traffic was 2551 02:43:48,600 --> 02:43:52,140 blocked in four directions by a crowd whose mood quickly grew so 2552 02:43:52,140 --> 02:43:55,920 ugly, that I really got apprehensive. I got on top of a 2553 02:43:55,920 --> 02:43:58,860 car and began waving my arms and yelling at them to quiet down. 2554 02:43:59,040 --> 02:44:03,210 They did quiet. And then I asked them to disperse. And they did. 2555 02:44:04,200 --> 02:44:07,440 This was when it began being said that I was America's only 2556 02:44:07,440 --> 02:44:12,030 Negro, who could stop a race riot cold or start one. 2557 02:44:13,440 --> 02:44:18,390 I don't know if I can do either one. But I know one thing. It 2558 02:44:18,390 --> 02:44:21,510 had taught me in a very few minutes to have a whole lot of 2559 02:44:21,510 --> 02:44:24,780 respect for the human combustion that is packed among the 2560 02:44:24,780 --> 02:44:28,260 hustlers and young admirers who live in the ghettos with a 2561 02:44:28,260 --> 02:44:32,790 northern white man has sealed off the Negro away from whites 2562 02:44:33,090 --> 02:44:37,980 for 100 years. Wow, that's cool. I've not read this 2563 02:44:38,040 --> 02:44:42,300 autobiography, but that moment of Holy crap, I can do either 2564 02:44:42,300 --> 02:44:46,800 one. I can stop a race right or I can start one when you when 2565 02:44:46,800 --> 02:44:51,450 you realize that yourself. Wow. Big power has big power. Yeah, 2566 02:44:51,840 --> 02:44:56,550 power. And we've seen this start with cold call the third way 2567 02:44:56,550 --> 02:45:00,000 weaponized in this country. So and 2568 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:01,110 Just off of 2569 02:45:03,480 --> 02:45:07,980 just off of monetary, I believe of with the riots and 2570 02:45:07,980 --> 02:45:12,540 everything. You know, like the first wave is the protesters and 2571 02:45:12,630 --> 02:45:16,800 activists. second wave is the provocative agent provocateur is 2572 02:45:16,800 --> 02:45:21,030 and then the third wave, if you could actually control that 2573 02:45:21,030 --> 02:45:21,900 third wave 2574 02:45:22,980 --> 02:45:26,910 control right now it's just a force, right? But if somebody 2575 02:45:26,940 --> 02:45:29,760 actually channel and control that's a scary thought. That's a 2576 02:45:29,760 --> 02:45:32,490 scary thought for a lot of people. Well, it depends if you 2577 02:45:32,490 --> 02:45:36,630 can control the the wave to do something more positive. That 2578 02:45:36,630 --> 02:45:39,450 would be great. It's still scary for a lot of people because they 2579 02:45:39,450 --> 02:45:39,750 want 2580 02:45:42,210 --> 02:45:45,060 the mayhem. Yeah, we can't have that. And now you see the 2581 02:45:45,060 --> 02:45:48,600 problem with Malcolm X. It's like, Yeah, that's great. You 2582 02:45:48,600 --> 02:45:50,790 can do it. But if we can't control you and tell you which 2583 02:45:50,790 --> 02:45:52,740 way you got to do it, and you're no good to us. 2584 02:45:54,090 --> 02:46:00,180 Yes. So that wraps up the second segment of the show, and we're 2585 02:46:00,180 --> 02:46:03,570 going to thank some people. And we're going to find out who 2586 02:46:03,570 --> 02:46:07,710 invented making it rain. But before we do, our producers made 2587 02:46:07,710 --> 02:46:12,150 it rain on us and we love it. We love it. We love the new money. 2588 02:46:12,480 --> 02:46:14,550 Money. I just I don't want any money around me. It's not. 2589 02:46:16,140 --> 02:46:19,380 I don't want to have a new one that are brand new than an old 2590 02:46:19,380 --> 02:46:23,280 20 that's kind of dumb and but there's some bad new money that 2591 02:46:23,280 --> 02:46:27,240 excites you like $100 bills. I mean, money to the 2592 02:46:28,890 --> 02:46:31,650 most beautiful thing on earth is $100. Bill, I haven't seen a 2593 02:46:31,650 --> 02:46:33,030 woman is good looking at $100. 2594 02:46:34,920 --> 02:46:35,220 Bill. 2595 02:46:36,720 --> 02:46:38,880 See, we're no different than Young Jeezy. we're no different 2596 02:46:38,880 --> 02:46:42,090 than Gucci Mane we love We love the stacks, the fresh dollar 2597 02:46:42,090 --> 02:46:46,470 bills. It does keep the show going. And in effect, we're 2598 02:46:46,470 --> 02:46:50,400 selling out of our virtual trunk here. And the cool thing about 2599 02:46:50,400 --> 02:46:52,350 it is you don't have to dance. 2600 02:46:53,640 --> 02:46:57,720 You have to POM any bills on us. You can just use modern means 2601 02:46:57,720 --> 02:47:00,030 it's called Pay Pal. That's the one we're using right now 2602 02:47:00,030 --> 02:47:02,490 though, obviously, and we'll be going Bitcoin In addition, 2603 02:47:03,120 --> 02:47:05,970 within our near future that's unavoidable. 2604 02:47:07,050 --> 02:47:09,900 And we want to thank the rest of our producers who sponsored and 2605 02:47:09,900 --> 02:47:13,890 helped and supported episode number 55. And we say thank you 2606 02:47:13,890 --> 02:47:18,360 to Michael roar. Who sent us 4825 mon Adam, please accept 2607 02:47:18,360 --> 02:47:21,840 this first contribution. And please D deadbeat man, my 2608 02:47:21,840 --> 02:47:28,830 pleasure. Congratulations. You're no longer dead. The mo I 2609 02:47:28,830 --> 02:47:33,000 was thinking these numbers was this maybe a 50. And and some 2610 02:47:33,000 --> 02:47:34,110 PayPal fees got 2611 02:47:35,310 --> 02:47:38,670 deducted or is this literally a 4825? donation? 2612 02:47:39,990 --> 02:47:43,350 I can check. It doesn't tell you in the spreadsheet. Okay. That's 2613 02:47:43,350 --> 02:47:46,260 the I have to go back to the actual details. I can I could 2614 02:47:46,260 --> 02:47:48,900 check those. Yeah, we was closed. I'll start checking from 2615 02:47:48,900 --> 02:47:51,480 now. Yeah, just to make sure I want to make want to make sure 2616 02:47:51,480 --> 02:47:54,000 people get the right title. So we'll check on that. We can 2617 02:47:54,000 --> 02:47:55,680 always go back and correct. 2618 02:47:57,600 --> 02:48:02,220 As we said, Yes. Did that mean? This is back to Michael de 2619 02:48:02,220 --> 02:48:04,590 deadbeat me. I've been listening for the last few months and this 2620 02:48:04,590 --> 02:48:06,870 has been a very eye opening education for me. I look forward 2621 02:48:06,870 --> 02:48:09,990 to continuing the work. And the fantastic perspective. The show 2622 02:48:09,990 --> 02:48:12,420 continues to provide all the best Mike Thank you, Mike. 2623 02:48:12,780 --> 02:48:16,950 Leonard bears Ma. I think he's Yes, he's Dutch. My name is 2624 02:48:16,950 --> 02:48:19,440 Lennart. I'm from the Hague, the Netherlands currently living in 2625 02:48:19,440 --> 02:48:22,980 the Middle East. Wow, that's a good combo. I've been trying to 2626 02:48:22,980 --> 02:48:26,580 puzzle everything together from the election, the cultural 2627 02:48:26,580 --> 02:48:30,750 Marxist Marxist uprising, BLM COVID. And the great reset 2628 02:48:30,750 --> 02:48:33,360 globalist movement. Thank you so much for helping me fill in some 2629 02:48:33,360 --> 02:48:36,660 of the pieces that were missing. value for value, pay attention 2630 02:48:36,660 --> 02:48:39,570 to everything and the truth will reveal itself. He says I salute 2631 02:48:39,570 --> 02:48:43,290 you both. Keep up the good work. Mo Mo Mo facts, please. He might 2632 02:48:43,290 --> 02:48:46,200 need most x karma. So just in case he's asking for that. 2633 02:48:49,230 --> 02:48:52,800 2515 from Aaron Meyer finally able to catch episodes one 2634 02:48:52,800 --> 02:48:56,670 through five, just getting started. Thanks for the work you 2635 02:48:56,670 --> 02:48:59,160 do. Well, you got a lot of work to do yourself, Aaron Keep it 2636 02:48:59,160 --> 02:49:01,650 up. I do appreciate listening and gaining new perspective and 2637 02:49:01,650 --> 02:49:05,040 we appreciate you sending some value back to us. Thomas 2638 02:49:05,040 --> 02:49:08,070 Sullivan, Jr. $25. Thanks for the great show and honesty mon 2639 02:49:08,070 --> 02:49:10,890 out of my late dad shamed me when I cried in front of him. 2640 02:49:11,100 --> 02:49:12,900 And I will always resent him for that. 2641 02:49:15,090 --> 02:49:18,330 Thank you. But that's that's a beautiful thing to share of how 2642 02:49:18,330 --> 02:49:22,470 you feel. Yeah, I appreciate that on this really nice. And 2643 02:49:22,470 --> 02:49:26,130 thank you for supporting us. And thank you to chef Elvis always 2644 02:49:26,130 --> 02:49:30,690 there for us. $25 with a happy birthday to you mo James Davis 2645 02:49:30,720 --> 02:49:34,410 2470 to one of the great thought provoking, most thought 2646 02:49:34,410 --> 02:49:36,990 provoking podcasts. Thank you. Well, thank you for that's a big 2647 02:49:36,990 --> 02:49:40,560 compliment. Spreading the good word says Clinton with a $23 2648 02:49:40,560 --> 02:49:44,280 donation for today's show. Thank you Derek McNulty, who wants to 2649 02:49:44,280 --> 02:49:47,640 call out Zamora as a buster. 2650 02:49:49,440 --> 02:49:51,390 Yes, that's a deadbeat. It must be a dead. 2651 02:49:54,360 --> 02:49:57,750 He go. Yeah, Buster dead, but we'll just call him a deadbeat 2652 02:49:57,750 --> 02:49:59,970 and he wants to know karma will do that. Thank you very much. 2653 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:01,470 Derrick you've got 2654 02:50:03,689 --> 02:50:08,159 $20.33 from James Holly love the job you to do would like to call 2655 02:50:08,159 --> 02:50:12,149 up my fellow central Ohio mo na listeners they know who I'm 2656 02:50:12,149 --> 02:50:14,969 talking about to help produce a show that doesn't need a weekly 2657 02:50:14,969 --> 02:50:18,149 episode as long as you keep us thinking, as always mo karma 2658 02:50:18,149 --> 02:50:20,639 please. That means he's dead beating these buddies of his 2659 02:50:23,190 --> 02:50:24,930 mo Carmen for himself well deserved. 2660 02:50:28,200 --> 02:50:33,600 $20.21 from john cornforth Hello Hi Adam mo Episode 50 Episode 54 2661 02:50:33,600 --> 02:50:36,750 was another mind altering experience. We're all searching 2662 02:50:36,750 --> 02:50:39,720 for truth and the facts that you unleashed upon us should have 2663 02:50:39,720 --> 02:50:43,620 come with a trigger warning if we warned you today. As a former 2664 02:50:43,620 --> 02:50:46,620 engineer myself mo admitting to his engineering day job helped 2665 02:50:46,620 --> 02:50:49,710 me appreciate why I've been able to so effectively connect with 2666 02:50:49,710 --> 02:50:53,520 what he has to share facts and data don't lie only people who 2667 02:50:53,520 --> 02:50:56,820 control the narrative do. I'm looking forward to our Hawaiian 2668 02:50:56,820 --> 02:51:02,850 luau of 2021 Oh, yes. That's our the mo facts luau meetup. We're 2669 02:51:02,850 --> 02:51:07,020 looking forward to that. Very much. So. Joe would send us $20 2670 02:51:07,020 --> 02:51:10,230 with no note, we appreciate it. So did Kevin rollway send us $15 2671 02:51:10,230 --> 02:51:14,430 Thank you, Paul. elevado pulled by wine cooler. Hilarious. 2672 02:51:16,860 --> 02:51:18,420 Did we say that? I can't remember 2673 02:51:19,800 --> 02:51:23,790 what I said about me. I mean, not Donald noon, but a Van 2674 02:51:23,790 --> 02:51:28,650 Jones. Compared to hold my wine cooler. Watch me cry. 2675 02:51:30,360 --> 02:51:33,840 One of the better ones. Thanks, Paul. $10 from it $10 from Susan 2676 02:51:33,840 --> 02:51:39,540 tillett. Great shows usual says thank you, Pharaoh dinero $5.55 2677 02:51:39,540 --> 02:51:43,560 salute most salute. Adam. We salute you, Robert Oh, Donald $5 2678 02:51:43,560 --> 02:51:48,210 great show is always doing the work. Robert Zenith sends us $5 2679 02:51:48,210 --> 02:51:52,560 as does anonymous D in the Big D keeps women keep doing the work. 2680 02:51:53,190 --> 02:51:56,430 Terry, the human subscription killer sent us for 11 It's a 2681 02:51:56,430 --> 02:52:02,010 standard. And finally Steven Pullman 333 the magic numbers 2682 02:52:02,010 --> 02:52:04,620 all the way at the bottom. I would have donated more, but I 2683 02:52:04,620 --> 02:52:07,650 had to send money to Van Jones this week. So you could buy some 2684 02:52:07,650 --> 02:52:08,310 Kleenex. 2685 02:52:10,740 --> 02:52:15,570 I think brutal. Just brutal. That was Rebecca. zipper 2686 02:52:15,600 --> 02:52:18,690 assignments. I think you said Robert, that smile. I'm sorry. 2687 02:52:18,690 --> 02:52:21,090 It was Rebecca. Yes, you're right. For me. I want you to get 2688 02:52:21,090 --> 02:52:25,980 in trouble there. But this one quick thing about the crying. I 2689 02:52:25,980 --> 02:52:26,250 know. 2690 02:52:27,960 --> 02:52:33,150 This is specific to the it's some I struggle with the image 2691 02:52:33,150 --> 02:52:36,960 that black men have. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. But 2692 02:52:37,230 --> 02:52:37,470 you 2693 02:52:38,850 --> 02:52:43,050 gotta be very careful how you show weakness. And the thing I 2694 02:52:43,050 --> 02:52:44,640 had with Van Jones was, 2695 02:52:45,690 --> 02:52:50,010 uh, I don't know, it's Who are you crying for more than that? 2696 02:52:50,070 --> 02:52:53,670 After crying? Well, sure, but I want to understand something 2697 02:52:53,670 --> 02:52:54,360 that you said. 2698 02:52:55,590 --> 02:52:58,650 You've got to be careful how you show your weakness as a black 2699 02:52:58,650 --> 02:53:04,050 man. So I am presuming This means certain weaknesses are 2700 02:53:04,050 --> 02:53:08,490 unacceptable to the culture frowned upon, why are you not 2701 02:53:08,490 --> 02:53:10,680 allowed to show emotion? What's the problem? 2702 02:53:12,210 --> 02:53:15,090 Forget the phony emotion, then obviously, it isn't 2703 02:53:16,170 --> 02:53:19,770 caught yet there's a term called being food. 2704 02:53:21,150 --> 02:53:21,930 And 2705 02:53:23,910 --> 02:53:24,450 if you 2706 02:53:25,920 --> 02:53:29,310 appear to be weak, or easily 2707 02:53:30,870 --> 02:53:34,920 pushed over, that can be taken advantage of Now I'm not saying 2708 02:53:34,920 --> 02:53:37,050 that's the right it's kind of like that mind trap thing that 2709 02:53:37,470 --> 02:53:39,270 Gucci man referring to these rules 2710 02:53:40,380 --> 02:53:43,800 is heartbreak in your mind. Uh, 2711 02:53:44,910 --> 02:53:48,810 so I'm still struggling with with myself is just that. Well, 2712 02:53:48,810 --> 02:53:51,810 just a question. Do you think this is different in any other 2713 02:53:51,810 --> 02:53:53,880 culture? Or any other? I don't know. 2714 02:53:55,200 --> 02:53:58,800 I can't speak for I mean, comment. This is just my eye 2715 02:53:58,800 --> 02:54:02,250 because I think it's the same. From our perspective. Yeah. 2716 02:54:04,620 --> 02:54:09,180 I think in in need, this may be the difference. If you're doing 2717 02:54:09,180 --> 02:54:10,320 that on television. 2718 02:54:11,430 --> 02:54:15,270 I don't think it matters, who you are, or what what your 2719 02:54:15,270 --> 02:54:18,870 background is, it will be viewed in a certain way, depending on 2720 02:54:18,870 --> 02:54:19,620 the topic. 2721 02:54:21,870 --> 02:54:25,380 And I think people when you cry on television, it's a very 2722 02:54:25,380 --> 02:54:29,250 specific thing. It's something that we used to be only seen on 2723 02:54:29,250 --> 02:54:31,620 the barbara walters year and special. 2724 02:54:32,970 --> 02:54:37,110 So in some ways, it's heralded as oh my gosh, look, he is he's 2725 02:54:37,110 --> 02:54:40,830 sensitive. And I think that's what happened with Van Jones in 2726 02:54:40,830 --> 02:54:41,610 general. 2727 02:54:42,630 --> 02:54:47,430 To the general population who watched CNN, I think that was 2728 02:54:47,430 --> 02:54:51,960 seen as a very courageous courageous thing. Whereas me, 2729 02:54:51,960 --> 02:54:56,460 you everyone else looks at and go what a bunch of crap. Or what 2730 02:54:56,460 --> 02:54:59,370 are you really crying for van? I'm just saying I don't know if 2731 02:54:59,370 --> 02:54:59,970 that's it. 2732 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:02,970 It's no different than white or black culture to be seen. I 2733 02:55:02,970 --> 02:55:07,410 guess I don't. I don't know. But it's it's more not like I said 2734 02:55:07,410 --> 02:55:08,490 crying is 2735 02:55:11,130 --> 02:55:11,910 fear. 2736 02:55:13,139 --> 02:55:14,039 I'm 2737 02:55:15,929 --> 02:55:17,219 overly compassionate. 2738 02:55:18,720 --> 02:55:23,370 These things can be used against you or it's my perception as a 2739 02:55:23,370 --> 02:55:28,320 black man with pips. Well, okay, it can be used against you as a 2740 02:55:28,980 --> 02:55:33,570 weakness. So may I suggest as a white man, that you open your 2741 02:55:33,570 --> 02:55:37,440 mind because if controlled effectively, showing these 2742 02:55:37,440 --> 02:55:40,770 emotions can be a very powerful tool. 2743 02:55:42,570 --> 02:55:45,210 I'm just saying it's that sounds like mine trap to me when you 2744 02:55:45,210 --> 02:55:48,150 say was the black man if you cry, that's bad news. Well, 2745 02:55:48,150 --> 02:55:52,740 maybe that's mine trap, too. It is. Okay. But But 2746 02:55:56,250 --> 02:55:57,090 my anger? 2747 02:55:58,290 --> 02:56:00,780 Let's just take crying out the table. Let's look at anger. 2748 02:56:00,810 --> 02:56:03,150 Okay, much better. I agree. Yeah. 2749 02:56:05,040 --> 02:56:08,160 I made this statement A while back on a show. I can't remember 2750 02:56:08,250 --> 02:56:11,580 what it was about angry black there. He, yeah, even the 2751 02:56:11,580 --> 02:56:17,400 appearance of being angry. And I have people to this day. If I'm 2752 02:56:17,430 --> 02:56:21,420 thinking I scowl. And they'll say anything I 2753 02:56:26,490 --> 02:56:28,020 was everybody keeps asking me. 2754 02:56:29,400 --> 02:56:32,250 But my wife calls it I got knots in my head. Right? Because I 2755 02:56:32,250 --> 02:56:35,700 mean, like when I was just saying, like, you're thinking 2756 02:56:37,620 --> 02:56:41,100 yeah, I'm processing. My hourglass is turning here. So 2757 02:56:41,100 --> 02:56:45,480 um, but to other people, the appearance is 2758 02:56:47,760 --> 02:56:52,080 Oh, he might snap. No, at the moment, he might blow. And I 2759 02:56:52,080 --> 02:56:56,460 think as a black man, since we're hyper, hyper masculine. 2760 02:56:56,460 --> 02:57:02,700 alized a same different when we cry. Because, ah, I'm not saying 2761 02:57:02,700 --> 02:57:05,610 it's right or wrong. I'm just giving a right now. Again, 2762 02:57:05,610 --> 02:57:09,600 analysis of Yeah, so we're talking about this is a good 2763 02:57:09,630 --> 02:57:13,890 good luck. Give me a kick in the door, please. Yeah, hold on a 2764 02:57:13,890 --> 02:57:14,220 second. 2765 02:57:17,130 --> 02:57:20,130 Okay, justice. All right. Yeah. Um, 2766 02:57:21,240 --> 02:57:24,000 when it comes to anger to emotions in general, but when it 2767 02:57:24,000 --> 02:57:29,070 comes to anger, I would just say that there's more and more 2768 02:57:29,070 --> 02:57:32,940 examples these days with lockdowns and other things where 2769 02:57:32,940 --> 02:57:37,560 we see angry black men on YouTube or Twitter. And they're 2770 02:57:37,560 --> 02:57:42,390 saying stuff. And the angry part works very effectively. And it's 2771 02:57:42,390 --> 02:57:45,480 not seen as scary. There's a I'm just talking from a white man's 2772 02:57:45,720 --> 02:57:49,080 perspective. It's like, oh, wow, someone's really pissed off. And 2773 02:57:49,080 --> 02:57:51,990 they're making a lot of sense. And and you know, it's very 2774 02:57:51,990 --> 02:57:55,170 attention grabbing, it's a little different than what 2775 02:57:55,170 --> 02:57:57,570 you're talking about. Because I can see where that's the thing, 2776 02:57:57,570 --> 02:58:01,020 oh, man, he's like, that guy's like, he's ready to pop off. But 2777 02:58:01,020 --> 02:58:05,190 when when, when real anger frustration is showed. 2778 02:58:06,930 --> 02:58:09,510 I think it's very effective these days, it may be something 2779 02:58:09,510 --> 02:58:12,360 of only just the past a little bit. Whereas you get an angry 2780 02:58:12,360 --> 02:58:15,390 white man yelling on YouTube. It's like at what a fool. You 2781 02:58:15,390 --> 02:58:18,090 understand what I'm saying? I understand what you're saying. 2782 02:58:18,090 --> 02:58:22,050 But let me counter that with this. This is why brock obama 2783 02:58:22,050 --> 02:58:23,070 couldn't pop off. 2784 02:58:24,990 --> 02:58:31,740 Yes, yeah. He could never pull what Trump. Now he did cry. Now 2785 02:58:31,740 --> 02:58:34,770 he did it. But that's acceptable because of his demographic that 2786 02:58:34,770 --> 02:58:40,260 he was trying to reach. So that's acceptable. But to say 2787 02:58:40,290 --> 02:58:42,210 you're talking to the president here, don't ever talk to the 2788 02:58:42,210 --> 02:58:46,950 President. Like if he did that? Oh, hell no. But I mean, so I 2789 02:58:46,950 --> 02:58:48,600 was like, we can have conversations. 2790 02:58:49,950 --> 02:58:53,070 Well, well, I'm glad. I'm glad we're talking about this, 2791 02:58:53,070 --> 02:58:55,530 because I'm gonna pay a little more attention to it and how I 2792 02:58:55,530 --> 02:58:59,070 feel about it, because I think I think that while I know from 2793 02:58:59,070 --> 02:59:01,350 this show, my attitude has changed. Like, we've talked 2794 02:59:01,350 --> 02:59:04,440 about this before. We're actually saw a very angry, angry 2795 02:59:04,440 --> 02:59:08,280 black man on the street who was yelling at me. And I had the 2796 02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:12,480 incredible sensation of calm. I'm like, bro, 2797 02:59:13,770 --> 02:59:17,670 get on the sidewalk. I was not scared or anything. And that's 2798 02:59:17,700 --> 02:59:19,590 it. Maybe that's interracial. 2799 02:59:20,610 --> 02:59:22,740 But say maybe it's to black men. 2800 02:59:23,820 --> 02:59:26,010 And I'll say this. I have a close friend. 2801 02:59:27,030 --> 02:59:30,480 He had an incident where he hit a door with his door. 2802 02:59:31,800 --> 02:59:32,940 And they do was like, 2803 02:59:34,110 --> 02:59:34,680 what's up? 2804 02:59:36,870 --> 02:59:41,670 And if we became that way, what's up? Those two words. 2805 02:59:43,020 --> 02:59:45,990 So what you saying, man? I mean, that's how it goes. What's up? 2806 02:59:46,170 --> 02:59:49,290 So what you saying then? And it could devolve into something 2807 02:59:49,290 --> 02:59:53,370 different. So we just have to be, not have to be let me stop 2808 02:59:53,370 --> 02:59:58,650 saying that. It's the perception that we have to move on a 2809 02:59:58,650 --> 02:59:59,520 different time. 2810 03:00:00,030 --> 03:00:03,720 Okay, good. So it's all mine trap. Then we get into my trap. 2811 03:00:03,750 --> 03:00:06,870 I totally 100% increase in my trap. Alright, should not get 2812 03:00:06,870 --> 03:00:09,030 stuffy in here. So let me Oh, yeah, please, please. 2813 03:00:11,519 --> 03:00:13,439 Okay, much better. Hey, everybody, we're back. 2814 03:00:16,170 --> 03:00:18,810 And while we were saying that something we thought, you know, 2815 03:00:19,590 --> 03:00:22,230 what we were talking about hung behind closed doors, something 2816 03:00:22,230 --> 03:00:25,710 came to my mind. Are we at the donation segment? 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So 2825 03:00:51,510 --> 03:00:54,600 we appreciate you showing your love and and telling us about 2826 03:00:54,600 --> 03:00:56,940 the value that you receive and your notes and also the 2827 03:00:56,940 --> 03:00:59,940 numerology and just this straight up donations that 2828 03:00:59,940 --> 03:01:04,050 you're sending to keep the show going TO to support the work and 2829 03:01:04,110 --> 03:01:07,920 to continue doing that please go to moe facts.com or go directly 2830 03:01:07,920 --> 03:01:12,690 to our donation page at mo fund me.com MOEFU and d 2831 03:01:13,980 --> 03:01:18,240 m e.com. And thank you all once again for supporting mo facts 2832 03:01:18,240 --> 03:01:20,190 with Adam Curry Episode Number 55 2833 03:01:22,620 --> 03:01:26,670 almost missed a valid point I wanted to make so I'm glad we 2834 03:01:26,670 --> 03:01:30,750 had that conversation we did okay. There was one song missing 2835 03:01:30,750 --> 03:01:31,830 from his verses 2836 03:01:33,240 --> 03:01:37,500 that I'm surprised that didn't get played on Jesus part and 2837 03:01:37,500 --> 03:01:41,010 that's my president is black he didn't play it 2838 03:01:42,570 --> 03:01:44,820 wish that was the song he made for brock obama when he got 2839 03:01:45,030 --> 03:01:48,990 elected. Right right right but he chose not to play it which 2840 03:01:48,990 --> 03:01:50,280 was a glaring 2841 03:01:51,360 --> 03:01:56,910 mission for me. Like is blocked Barack Obama that toxic 2842 03:01:58,530 --> 03:02:02,850 Well, he didn't want to play it or he didn't want to seem like a 2843 03:02:03,210 --> 03:02:06,630 democratic operative by playing it but it was one of his biggest 2844 03:02:06,630 --> 03:02:11,850 hits. So it not to be played and you got me you have your top 20 2845 03:02:11,850 --> 03:02:16,080 songs well maybe i don't know i think that you know considering 2846 03:02:16,140 --> 03:02:20,790 who is who he's in bed with figuratively. The last thing the 2847 03:02:20,790 --> 03:02:23,670 last thing we want is anyone thinking about Obama like now we 2848 03:02:23,670 --> 03:02:25,200 got to move forward towards Joe 2849 03:02:27,990 --> 03:02:31,350 but now you know you want to conjure up those feelings of 2850 03:02:31,410 --> 03:02:35,370 Joe's got you think you think that's good? You think that they 2851 03:02:35,370 --> 03:02:38,910 want to conjure up Obama? I mean, isn't he toxic at this 2852 03:02:38,910 --> 03:02:42,720 point for the culture? That's my point. Yeah. Is he so toxic? I 2853 03:02:42,720 --> 03:02:46,440 think so. Because that was the whole thing that Joe is a 2854 03:02:48,990 --> 03:02:56,550 racist? No But Joe is a rock revisiting are coming back to 2855 03:02:56,550 --> 03:03:00,570 the old Obama third term. Right well i don't think anyone's 2856 03:03:00,570 --> 03:03:04,290 playing that song. I found that as I'm glad that we stopped and 2857 03:03:04,290 --> 03:03:06,870 had a comment to that spot that thought coming I had it and I 2858 03:03:06,870 --> 03:03:10,680 made a note of that about myself My feeling is that my feeling is 2859 03:03:10,740 --> 03:03:14,130 that Obama is considered toxic by the culture or for the for 2860 03:03:14,130 --> 03:03:19,050 the New Democrat Party. That's I think that's true. I believe 2861 03:03:19,200 --> 03:03:22,290 that was my thing. I think with maybe Dooley the two points I 2862 03:03:22,290 --> 03:03:26,430 laid out one that he is toxic into that will be in a way that 2863 03:03:26,430 --> 03:03:29,550 would have been a red flag to a lot of people I Oh yeah, well 2864 03:03:29,550 --> 03:03:31,440 you know what's going on? Yeah, I agree. I 2865 03:03:32,460 --> 03:03:37,170 I saw promise to share with you the origin of making it rain guy 2866 03:03:37,170 --> 03:03:41,490 so let's get into 34 man 3.1 point three that type of shit 2867 03:03:41,490 --> 03:03:43,650 but I'm still on the same mission I was on when I met 2868 03:03:43,650 --> 03:03:45,150 Mitch you know what I'm saying? 2869 03:03:46,380 --> 03:03:47,010 whose main 2870 03:03:54,900 --> 03:03:58,980 part one a program stop you ain't never heard of big meat I 2871 03:03:58,980 --> 03:04:02,100 may have for any you travel around everywhere and learn 2872 03:04:02,100 --> 03:04:04,680 about different things all over the world for this I learned 2873 03:04:04,680 --> 03:04:05,820 about us by asking 2874 03:04:07,230 --> 03:04:11,040 was big meats is big meat smell know how to explain that nobody 2875 03:04:11,040 --> 03:04:14,130 ever asked me that question. That's crazy. Nobody ever asked 2876 03:04:14,130 --> 03:04:18,090 me that. I don't know how to answer it. Got our own house we 2877 03:04:18,090 --> 03:04:21,570 got our own cars we got almost got our own clothes. You know 2878 03:04:21,780 --> 03:04:25,410 and we can't be stuck I don't see nobody style seen on the car 2879 03:04:25,620 --> 03:04:29,580 after season. No nobody I never do this again. It's just many 2880 03:04:29,580 --> 03:04:33,840 niggas and as much money can't get along. Big Meech and hurt. 2881 03:04:34,140 --> 03:04:40,830 Now. So big Meech is the leader of the black mafia family. Okay, 2882 03:04:40,890 --> 03:04:46,260 which they had. Jeezy was affiliated with them a part of 2883 03:04:46,260 --> 03:04:49,590 them. It's very unclear what the relationship was. Some people 2884 03:04:49,590 --> 03:04:53,850 say that they took him in as far as you know, he was like the 2885 03:04:54,240 --> 03:05:00,000 music. arm of BMF but he was definitely affiliated with 2886 03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:04,440 Boom and black mafia family was covered his kid they were the 2887 03:05:04,440 --> 03:05:09,630 shit. I mean like, see, I mean they okay this how much money 2888 03:05:09,630 --> 03:05:13,740 they had they were by winning lottery tickets to launder their 2889 03:05:13,740 --> 03:05:14,220 money 2890 03:05:17,070 --> 03:05:21,210 on the hope that one of them paid a huff know if somebody won 2891 03:05:21,570 --> 03:05:26,250 yeah oh god yeah so if you are a winner they will look your meal 2892 03:05:26,280 --> 03:05:32,550 will give you 1.2 give us the ticket. Oh okay okay wow that's 2893 03:05:32,550 --> 03:05:34,140 big they had it they had a 2894 03:05:35,310 --> 03:05:39,510 book billboard downtown Atlanta saying the world is ours 2895 03:05:41,220 --> 03:05:47,160 This is a lot to do was a he was a member of black mafia family. 2896 03:05:47,700 --> 03:05:51,660 You never heard of big Meech like I mean that was offensive 2897 03:05:52,980 --> 03:05:57,540 I mean these are the guys that created or it's the legend goals 2898 03:05:57,540 --> 03:06:02,310 that they created making it rain because they were go in and just 2899 03:06:02,340 --> 03:06:06,930 make it right just tsunami cash to the point where you can't see 2900 03:06:06,930 --> 03:06:11,820 the floor cash that will pull up two or three tour buses back to 2901 03:06:11,820 --> 03:06:16,830 back and I'm not saying 27 year old me that was like wow like 2902 03:06:16,830 --> 03:06:18,990 that that is hot you know i mean like that 2903 03:06:20,580 --> 03:06:23,370 knowing the implications of drugs and everything in that 2904 03:06:23,370 --> 03:06:29,100 community I get that but it's this is the this is the mind 2905 03:06:29,100 --> 03:06:35,970 screw that you go through have seen people create it as legends 2906 03:06:36,480 --> 03:06:40,350 but then what they can't legendary for 2907 03:06:41,880 --> 03:06:47,130 right but the those were those guys yeah BMF adult Rick Ross 2908 03:06:47,130 --> 03:06:48,660 got a song called beat Meech. 2909 03:06:50,640 --> 03:06:55,710 He was saying like, I mean, what I mean by that is to have a song 2910 03:06:55,830 --> 03:06:59,250 title out there. Like the hook goes on big Meech, I'm like I'm 2911 03:06:59,250 --> 03:07:05,100 like Larry Hoover. Yeah, you're so legendary. Legendary. So 2912 03:07:05,310 --> 03:07:10,230 Jeezy we have a clip or him speaking about him in big Meech 2913 03:07:10,230 --> 03:07:12,690 relationship because it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna pay off in 2914 03:07:12,690 --> 03:07:16,110 the end, but let's let's listen to that clip. Was that 2915 03:07:16,110 --> 03:07:18,660 relationship like these days with each being gone for? 2916 03:07:19,800 --> 03:07:23,970 Like 3040? Yeah. I mean, she still won't go to magic right 2917 03:07:23,970 --> 03:07:24,270 now. 2918 03:07:26,040 --> 03:07:29,520 My Magic City. I mean, you can't wait, wait, wait, do you can't 2919 03:07:29,520 --> 03:07:32,040 kill the spirit man. He's a different type of dude. Man. He 2920 03:07:32,040 --> 03:07:35,250 just always been a strong individual man. And I don't 2921 03:07:35,250 --> 03:07:38,910 think that the prison is, you know, it is what it is man. But 2922 03:07:38,910 --> 03:07:41,760 I just think that he's not letting me kill his spirits, 2923 03:07:41,760 --> 03:07:44,490 man. Like he you know, when you talk to him, he's in better 2924 03:07:44,490 --> 03:07:46,770 spirits. And you know, he's always calling and talking to 2925 03:07:46,770 --> 03:07:50,610 people. And you would think he was home to me. He can't hear it 2926 03:07:50,610 --> 03:07:52,470 in his voice. You know, some people, they get in there and 2927 03:07:52,470 --> 03:07:56,220 you hear that? You hear breaking them down? He's cool, man. He's 2928 03:07:56,220 --> 03:08:01,320 keeping I gave him that. What What do you think? made each, 2929 03:08:01,830 --> 03:08:05,070 you know, Drew so many people to meet? What was the cup? Because 2930 03:08:05,070 --> 03:08:09,840 he can't my nigga like he really did. Like it like he's genuine 2931 03:08:09,840 --> 03:08:13,170 do and I just think, you know, he just always wanted to see 2932 03:08:13,170 --> 03:08:15,510 people in a better place. You know, even the conversations 2933 03:08:15,780 --> 03:08:19,830 that we had. And I'll be the first to say, when I first you 2934 03:08:19,830 --> 03:08:23,100 know, started popping off my music great. Like me, she's one 2935 03:08:23,100 --> 03:08:26,370 of my biggest fans. Like he loved it. Like I would do shit 2936 03:08:26,370 --> 03:08:29,160 and come from a studio and get in the car him ride smoking. 2937 03:08:29,160 --> 03:08:32,100 Listen to that shit. And just true. You know? I mean, like, he 2938 03:08:32,100 --> 03:08:34,380 would just be like he said that he loved it. 2939 03:08:36,090 --> 03:08:38,640 Wow, it's just reading the Wikipedia man. These guys. 2940 03:08:39,030 --> 03:08:44,940 Pretty big organization going on. They trying to Malta state. 2941 03:08:47,250 --> 03:08:48,510 We say national 2942 03:08:49,650 --> 03:08:53,700 ring. Yeah. Those are the guys that come into your neighborhood 2943 03:08:53,700 --> 03:08:58,830 and like a we're setting up franchises. And, but they would 2944 03:08:58,830 --> 03:09:02,400 love I mean, it's like, that's why I keep bringing out El Chapo 2945 03:09:02,970 --> 03:09:08,070 because to the people they care for. Now, I mean, I can't not 2946 03:09:08,070 --> 03:09:10,530 see the mayhem and violence and 2947 03:09:11,580 --> 03:09:14,340 destruction that was brought to the neighborhood due to their 2948 03:09:14,340 --> 03:09:18,930 actions to how much how much of this is actually mirroring the 2949 03:09:18,930 --> 03:09:22,470 glamour of El Chapo or I would say probably still popular 2950 03:09:22,470 --> 03:09:23,340 Scarface. 2951 03:09:24,750 --> 03:09:29,310 I will probably say more. Pablo Escobar. Oh Escobar Yes. But 2952 03:09:29,310 --> 03:09:31,890 also also scarf. I mean, the world is mine. I mean, that was 2953 03:09:31,890 --> 03:09:36,480 that was what Scarface put on. Remember, that was his mind. Oh, 2954 03:09:36,480 --> 03:09:41,700 Scarface has a huge and we spoke about this. Scarface has a huge 2955 03:09:42,840 --> 03:09:46,260 impact on the culture because he's coming from the bottom 2956 03:09:46,260 --> 03:09:51,660 starting from nothing. making your way up. And and and making 2957 03:09:51,660 --> 03:09:55,350 yourself into a you know, a substantial figure that 2958 03:09:55,350 --> 03:09:58,590 resonates on a certain level. So here's here's how it must work 2959 03:09:58,590 --> 03:09:59,970 if you're doing this multi step. 2960 03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:02,100 Hundreds of millions of dollars 2961 03:10:03,720 --> 03:10:06,270 you're recognized by the political establishment you're 2962 03:10:06,270 --> 03:10:11,040 recognized by the white criminals in the system and I 2963 03:10:11,040 --> 03:10:16,740 think it's probably it's all intertwined and with politics it 2964 03:10:16,740 --> 03:10:20,730 cannot be you cannot run curry goggles 2965 03:10:24,540 --> 03:10:28,020 alright I can't see crap now all right we're getting there we're 2966 03:10:28,020 --> 03:10:31,830 getting there. You and your future travels I'm sorry 2967 03:10:33,330 --> 03:10:40,950 so but that that was Gz in 2012 well think sour between him and 2968 03:10:40,950 --> 03:10:44,880 big Meech and all that beat Meech speak for himself looks 2969 03:10:48,900 --> 03:10:51,690 like we coming out people that know us to tell you like them do 2970 03:10:51,690 --> 03:10:54,270 some of the coolest dudes moving across the face of the earth man 2971 03:10:54,270 --> 03:10:56,670 you know we come in we got drinks for everybody you know 2972 03:10:56,670 --> 03:11:00,450 you come in with a man named a family we all family What if I'm 2973 03:11:00,450 --> 03:11:04,740 out with my and trying to show my good time and some just off 2974 03:11:04,740 --> 03:11:08,280 brand dude come by and grab my ass and say Yo bitch What up we 2975 03:11:08,280 --> 03:11:12,660 go mop the floor with his ass is called respect 2976 03:11:15,090 --> 03:11:16,740 because they have always looked oh 2977 03:11:20,250 --> 03:11:26,250 boy is not going crazy. Gee, the oh my god from from the Bay. Oh, 2978 03:11:26,250 --> 03:11:29,430 john Jeezy from Atlanta. Yeah. Are you talking about Jay 2979 03:11:29,430 --> 03:11:32,970 Jenkins Young Jeezy? If that's what you call is a lot of Jesus 2980 03:11:32,970 --> 03:11:35,040 man but um, so 2981 03:11:36,180 --> 03:11:39,210 like, Is he really like well respected in the streets and 2982 03:11:39,210 --> 03:11:42,420 stuff out there? Yeah, yeah. The whole homo community level 2983 03:11:45,300 --> 03:11:48,120 playing no games. I don't cuz you know, when the movement 2984 03:11:48,120 --> 03:11:51,300 started he's one of the faces of it. Right? And you know, when 2985 03:11:51,300 --> 03:11:54,870 everything went down, you know, like he separated I don't know 2986 03:11:54,930 --> 03:11:57,570 Look, I mean, whenever you want to clear up you could clear up 2987 03:11:57,600 --> 03:12:01,080 I'm gonna tell you like this. I like the man music cuz I always 2988 03:12:01,080 --> 03:12:06,480 did. That's why I fuck from Jump Street. I'm not no hater. But if 2989 03:12:06,480 --> 03:12:09,450 you want your homeboys is walking through the mall. And in 2990 03:12:09,450 --> 03:12:13,290 his three Yo, and then 15 guys come said we found a beach is 2991 03:12:13,500 --> 03:12:17,790 and the nigga that run. That was Jeezy he was the nigga that ran 2992 03:12:18,690 --> 03:12:19,470 slap? 2993 03:12:20,580 --> 03:12:26,310 Yeah. So he when Jeezy got on with fame and you know, 2994 03:12:26,310 --> 03:12:27,510 celebrity and 2995 03:12:28,530 --> 03:12:33,240 had the huge rec contract and all that losing credibility is 2996 03:12:33,240 --> 03:12:37,980 not a loser know what he did? No, no, no, no black mafia 2997 03:12:37,980 --> 03:12:42,300 family that not not lose credibility, he lose. But I'll 2998 03:12:42,300 --> 03:12:46,920 say this as a matter of self preservation, the kind of 2999 03:12:46,920 --> 03:12:48,330 numbers that we're facing. 3000 03:12:49,860 --> 03:12:52,740 I'm not, I'm not I'm just kind of person. If I'm in it, I'm in 3001 03:12:52,740 --> 03:12:54,870 it. And if I'm not in it, I'm not in it. That's why I can 3002 03:12:54,870 --> 03:12:59,430 never participate in these kind of groups, or any group, because 3003 03:13:01,680 --> 03:13:07,230 I am for myself, and not in a selfish way. But I can't put 3004 03:13:07,800 --> 03:13:11,490 taking the fall, even if I have nothing to do with it. You know, 3005 03:13:11,490 --> 03:13:14,040 for somebody else, I can never do that. You know, I mean, I'm 3006 03:13:14,040 --> 03:13:15,000 just being honest with you. 3007 03:13:16,080 --> 03:13:19,470 And I think out of self preservation, and I've made it 3008 03:13:19,500 --> 03:13:23,430 I've got where I need to go. You screaming BMF on every record, 3009 03:13:23,430 --> 03:13:25,650 but then when they ask you Do you know anything about BMF? 3010 03:13:25,650 --> 03:13:29,880 Nah, no, no. BMF Oh, no, it's talking about and I think to a 3011 03:13:29,880 --> 03:13:35,220 guy like big Meech, who's really in it. I mean, like, lit blood, 3012 03:13:35,220 --> 03:13:37,800 like say blood in blood out. A 3013 03:13:39,360 --> 03:13:43,710 you don't you can't get out. You know, you have to we got to stay 3014 03:13:43,710 --> 03:13:49,050 in. But I mentioned this before with a Flynn. 3015 03:13:50,070 --> 03:13:53,640 The same thing. It's the same mentality. If you ride with 3016 03:13:53,640 --> 03:13:58,650 Trump. You catch case you don't rat. No metaphor still sitting 3017 03:13:58,650 --> 03:14:00,570 up. He didn't read. 3018 03:14:03,420 --> 03:14:06,840 General Flynn, he didn't read. Right. But the Michael Cohen. 3019 03:14:08,340 --> 03:14:09,210 Michael Cohen. 3020 03:14:10,980 --> 03:14:15,540 Yeah, that's a good. That's a good analogy. So that's why it's 3021 03:14:15,540 --> 03:14:19,230 like it's not about you know, you don't you just don't turn 3022 03:14:19,230 --> 03:14:22,140 your back on it. So I'm gonna play this next clip. And this is 3023 03:14:22,140 --> 03:14:28,860 a free show. 28 black don't crack to kind of this is how 3024 03:14:32,640 --> 03:14:37,710 drug dealers of kingpins can kind of absolve themselves from. 3025 03:14:38,880 --> 03:14:41,760 Well, somebody's got to sell drugs, if I don't sell it. And 3026 03:14:41,760 --> 03:14:44,280 this is from New jack city, the courts thing you're the one 3027 03:14:44,280 --> 03:14:44,790 who's guilty. 3028 03:14:46,290 --> 03:14:50,730 Lawmakers, the politicians that Colombian drug lords, all you 3029 03:14:50,730 --> 03:14:54,360 who lobby against making drugs legal, just like you did with 3030 03:14:54,420 --> 03:14:57,540 alcohol during the prohibition. You're the one who's guilty. 3031 03:14:59,580 --> 03:15:00,000 I mean, come 3032 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:01,200 Well, let's kick the ballistics here. 3033 03:15:02,310 --> 03:15:04,230 I know who's these made in Harlem. 3034 03:15:05,250 --> 03:15:09,960 I mean, not one of us in here. Also pop up. This thing is 3035 03:15:09,960 --> 03:15:13,320 bigger than Nino Brown, this is big business. This is the 3036 03:15:13,320 --> 03:15:14,070 American way. 3037 03:15:15,870 --> 03:15:18,120 Okay, my goggles are still on. So I'm just not gonna say 3038 03:15:18,120 --> 03:15:20,220 anything. Yes. So 3039 03:15:21,810 --> 03:15:27,600 I mean, that was the the logic of Wayne bringing it here. So if 3040 03:15:27,600 --> 03:15:30,060 you're gonna get mad at somebody get right in the right people, 3041 03:15:30,090 --> 03:15:32,820 or how are you going to be a hypocrite and be mad at us and 3042 03:15:32,820 --> 03:15:35,400 not the other people? Now, I mean, there's, there's nuance to 3043 03:15:35,400 --> 03:15:38,850 that argument, but I'm just telling you how the logic works 3044 03:15:39,030 --> 03:15:41,670 for somebody that is on a high level like that, from my 3045 03:15:41,670 --> 03:15:46,590 understanding, and Nino Brown, to a lot of people are seen as a 3046 03:15:46,590 --> 03:15:51,930 hero. A because he made it and if the ultimate goal is making 3047 03:15:51,930 --> 03:15:54,810 it, it doesn't matter how you make it, how they make it. Yeah. 3048 03:15:55,590 --> 03:16:02,100 So I found this interesting clip from BMF, Jabari a. And he 3049 03:16:02,100 --> 03:16:05,580 touches on a point that I've made a long time ago about 3050 03:16:05,580 --> 03:16:10,470 adrenaline. My job of choice was adrenaline. My drug of choice 3051 03:16:10,470 --> 03:16:11,010 was 3052 03:16:12,450 --> 03:16:17,010 the family. You know, that familia. that's bigger than 3053 03:16:17,040 --> 03:16:21,270 almost any drug out there on earth, and adrenaline of driving 3054 03:16:21,270 --> 03:16:26,550 in a car cross country. 2000 plus miles, 100 kilos, and there 3055 03:16:27,240 --> 03:16:30,600 are only one in the world. And that state that knows is there. 3056 03:16:30,780 --> 03:16:35,790 You know, that adrenaline rush? is beyond dope or anything for 3057 03:16:35,790 --> 03:16:38,760 me. I don't use drugs. I don't drink. I don't touch. I don't 3058 03:16:38,760 --> 03:16:42,270 taste nothing. But that was my drug. Wow. 3059 03:16:43,320 --> 03:16:48,780 Yeah. And these were a lot of bright, ambitious young men. 3060 03:16:50,430 --> 03:16:52,440 If given maybe a different path. 3061 03:16:54,480 --> 03:16:57,060 They were proud probably would have, you know, saying turned 3062 03:16:57,060 --> 03:16:58,260 out differently. But 3063 03:16:59,700 --> 03:17:01,950 this goes to show you that he didn't drink he didn't do 3064 03:17:01,950 --> 03:17:05,970 anything. But adrenaline. I think I've made that point 3065 03:17:05,970 --> 03:17:08,250 before about a lot of these kids running around doing the 3066 03:17:08,250 --> 03:17:12,360 shooting and playing this game. And I'll go back a little bit to 3067 03:17:12,360 --> 03:17:15,750 the Kendrick Lamar. Spoiler alert, that was kind of what 3068 03:17:15,750 --> 03:17:18,270 they were doing, running around playing the game. 3069 03:17:20,040 --> 03:17:22,410 Popping shots off at people each other. 3070 03:17:23,430 --> 03:17:27,210 And somebody gets killed in the process. And then one, one scene 3071 03:17:27,210 --> 03:17:31,320 in that one from the skit. And in the Kendrick Lamar album. It 3072 03:17:31,320 --> 03:17:35,400 was like we will pop a few shots and you know, and then that 3073 03:17:35,400 --> 03:17:38,460 Haha, the deuce actually said, ha ha ha shot the neighborhood 3074 03:17:38,670 --> 03:17:40,800 in the skit. Yeah. Because this 3075 03:17:42,090 --> 03:17:43,590 it's not taking seriously. 3076 03:17:44,640 --> 03:17:46,770 You know, it's just somebody actually gets hit. So I just 3077 03:17:46,770 --> 03:17:49,380 want to make that point about adrenaline. And it's no 3078 03:17:49,380 --> 03:17:53,040 different I think in the mentality of a god going down a 3079 03:17:53,040 --> 03:17:57,690 slope on the X Games. 50 foot slope on a skateboard. You know, 3080 03:17:57,690 --> 03:18:00,900 we used to do for our adrenaline, rock fights. 3081 03:18:02,430 --> 03:18:06,810 So, yeah, I know. I know how stupid our way. So rock fights. 3082 03:18:06,810 --> 03:18:10,230 Yeah, you somehow there was two teams? I don't really I think I 3083 03:18:10,230 --> 03:18:13,350 do remember, this was in Holland, by the way. So it's a 3084 03:18:13,350 --> 03:18:16,470 whole different culture altogether. But would be the 3085 03:18:16,470 --> 03:18:22,980 kids from a village up the road. And there was a there was a 3086 03:18:23,370 --> 03:18:27,780 house being demolished. And so there was lots of rocks around 3087 03:18:27,780 --> 03:18:30,600 and stuff and I can't even remember how it happened. We 3088 03:18:30,600 --> 03:18:32,910 just started a rock fight and we're throwing rocks at each 3089 03:18:32,910 --> 03:18:36,720 other and the until one kid got a fucking hole in his head. And 3090 03:18:36,720 --> 03:18:39,060 then all of a sudden we were like, Damn, that was dumb. Let's 3091 03:18:39,060 --> 03:18:39,660 go home. 3092 03:18:40,680 --> 03:18:44,430 But it was pure adrenaline. I remember it vividly. like holy 3093 03:18:44,640 --> 03:18:47,190 crap, I could get a hold of my head. Wow, this is cool that we 3094 03:18:47,190 --> 03:18:49,680 didn't have guns. But if we hadn't we probably would have 3095 03:18:49,680 --> 03:18:53,940 used them too. And but nowadays these young kids have access to 3096 03:18:53,940 --> 03:18:58,290 gun all over the so early on and that's why I say gbg Yeah, 3097 03:18:58,320 --> 03:19:05,490 because uh i'm gonna start GB BG get black boys guns. And I know 3098 03:19:05,490 --> 03:19:08,310 that a lot of people had a sticker shock I mean, like, What 3099 03:19:08,310 --> 03:19:12,810 do you say? I think if you take young black boys out teach them 3100 03:19:12,810 --> 03:19:16,800 how to hunt train them again. Yeah, see what it's like to see 3101 03:19:16,800 --> 03:19:19,860 life poor out of an animal. I mean, you're gonna eat the 3102 03:19:19,860 --> 03:19:23,130 animal whatever but I think that's why the lack of respect 3103 03:19:23,130 --> 03:19:26,520 for guns is part of the problem in our community as well. 3104 03:19:27,870 --> 03:19:30,870 Yeah, but that all that that we used to be culture you used to 3105 03:19:30,870 --> 03:19:34,200 take your your shotgun, your 22 not your shotgun. You take your 3106 03:19:34,200 --> 03:19:36,600 22 to school, put it in your locker, I'm going hunting later 3107 03:19:36,600 --> 03:19:39,810 go and shoot and later. I was talking to a friend He's like 3108 03:19:39,810 --> 03:19:44,760 I'm taking my son out to get his first book. And I'm sure once he 3109 03:19:44,760 --> 03:19:50,880 see that animal gonna die. Totally respect for that tool 3110 03:19:50,910 --> 03:19:52,200 called called a firearm. 3111 03:19:53,910 --> 03:19:56,340 So I'm not I'm all over the place today, but I just want to 3112 03:19:56,340 --> 03:19:59,850 make that point as well. Um, but that's that's big. Meech 3113 03:20:00,359 --> 03:20:05,099 And I'm gonna say this about Jeezy if you have the governor's 3114 03:20:05,129 --> 03:20:06,629 in the President's ear 3115 03:20:08,400 --> 03:20:12,570 if meek wants to come home and restore order in the streets 3116 03:20:12,570 --> 03:20:16,380 with it right now we're we're post that now shall we say we're 3117 03:20:16,380 --> 03:20:18,480 post Osama right now 3118 03:20:19,710 --> 03:20:23,100 remember how crazy it was Afghanistan in the Middle East 3119 03:20:23,100 --> 03:20:25,500 when you took out Osama or a 3120 03:20:26,610 --> 03:20:31,620 Saddam Hussein yeah now you have like five other warlords vying 3121 03:20:31,620 --> 03:20:34,230 for this mayhem mayhem Of course, whenever you take out 3122 03:20:34,230 --> 03:20:37,740 someone being in the gang or in the in the mob or organized 3123 03:20:37,740 --> 03:20:40,860 crime, it's always a fight for who's who's who's the boss now. 3124 03:20:41,400 --> 03:20:45,420 So I'm gonna say this. Remember when Kanye went first talk to 3125 03:20:45,420 --> 03:20:48,540 Trump in the Oval Office. Yeah, he was talking about bringing 3126 03:20:48,540 --> 03:20:52,080 Larry Hoover home and he was also mentioned in the song big 3127 03:20:52,080 --> 03:20:57,600 Meech by Rick Ross. I'm like big Meech, I'm like Larry Hoover. So 3128 03:20:57,600 --> 03:21:01,980 if Meech Larry Hoover can come home restore order to the 3129 03:21:01,980 --> 03:21:06,150 streets. I'm all for it. And I think genies ask, I know people 3130 03:21:06,150 --> 03:21:09,840 like what are you talking about Mo, I am not anti organized 3131 03:21:09,840 --> 03:21:13,590 crime. The reason why I say that is I am a realist that no crime 3132 03:21:13,590 --> 03:21:17,760 is gonna exist, vices gonna exist. If you saw a thing in 3133 03:21:17,760 --> 03:21:21,570 Portland, they've legalized the possession of drugs. So I mean, 3134 03:21:21,600 --> 03:21:25,230 we've gotten to the point where people are going to get high, 3135 03:21:25,740 --> 03:21:28,470 people are going to participate in prostitution, people are 3136 03:21:28,470 --> 03:21:31,920 going to participate in gambling. Now it's like if we 3137 03:21:31,920 --> 03:21:37,530 can bring these well respected, people highly respected by their 3138 03:21:37,590 --> 03:21:42,450 peers, and the guys that came up like them, and they can restore 3139 03:21:42,450 --> 03:21:45,120 order. Well, we don't have guys getting shot in the mall and 3140 03:21:45,120 --> 03:21:49,020 shot in the streets and all kinds of Mayhem, where it can 3141 03:21:49,020 --> 03:21:49,620 reach 3142 03:21:50,640 --> 03:21:54,660 civilians. I'm all for it. I'm for anything that brings 3143 03:21:54,660 --> 03:22:00,420 solutions to our community. I know that sounds crazy. But 3144 03:22:02,370 --> 03:22:04,890 even in the streets, you got to have some kind of order. It 3145 03:22:04,890 --> 03:22:07,710 sounds Well, it sounds hopeful. And yes. 3146 03:22:08,940 --> 03:22:11,340 As long as there are drugs, and as long as those drugs are 3147 03:22:11,370 --> 03:22:16,110 illegal, then there's going to be I I got to pick out from 3148 03:22:16,110 --> 03:22:19,140 under the goggles. Because, yeah, this is this is all this 3149 03:22:19,140 --> 03:22:23,670 is all going on. With street drugs. The Meanwhile, Purdue 3150 03:22:23,670 --> 03:22:28,020 pharma just admitted they were they were drug dealers actor 3151 03:22:28,020 --> 03:22:33,090 with a whole frickin network of legal drugs, they pay a fine, no 3152 03:22:33,090 --> 03:22:37,470 one goes to jail, none of the doctors the pill Mills. And of 3153 03:22:37,470 --> 03:22:41,700 course that trickled down to the street as well. None of it and 3154 03:22:41,730 --> 03:22:46,680 these guys, I would say in the opioid game are above above the 3155 03:22:46,680 --> 03:22:49,710 street gangs were handing it down. And first we said all the 3156 03:22:49,710 --> 03:22:52,710 rich white people get it. And then Oh, we got some excess was 3157 03:22:52,740 --> 03:22:56,130 distributed over here. Maybe those kids can turn it into lean 3158 03:22:56,130 --> 03:22:59,970 or whatever, mix it up. Those are the criminals, the criminals 3159 03:22:59,970 --> 03:23:04,200 are there. And as long as you've got these two systems, they're 3160 03:23:04,200 --> 03:23:07,770 meant they're meant to work together. They're baked into the 3161 03:23:07,770 --> 03:23:12,870 system. It's a part of it at and I don't know, we may find out if 3162 03:23:12,870 --> 03:23:15,900 we had if we've had systemic voter fraud in our in our 3163 03:23:15,900 --> 03:23:18,420 republic for the past 40 years. 3164 03:23:19,650 --> 03:23:23,490 And that will and if that is demonstrated and shown to the 3165 03:23:23,490 --> 03:23:26,160 American people that will freak a lot of people out, wait until 3166 03:23:26,160 --> 03:23:30,030 you find out what's really going on. What's really going on. 3167 03:23:30,180 --> 03:23:33,690 Because all of this to me, what's happening on the streets, 3168 03:23:34,020 --> 03:23:34,710 in the pyp 3169 03:23:35,790 --> 03:23:40,170 urban areas is part of the same thing. 3170 03:23:41,190 --> 03:23:43,950 And it's intended to be kept that way. 3171 03:23:45,720 --> 03:23:48,570 Yeah, and I'll go back to and we can go to the next clip after 3172 03:23:48,570 --> 03:23:52,080 this one. I go back to the Godfather line when they were 3173 03:23:52,080 --> 03:23:55,830 debating where they were at the same point I'm at now is gonna 3174 03:23:55,830 --> 03:23:58,140 be a drug trade. Right? Cuz I mean, that's what the 3175 03:23:59,160 --> 03:24:01,680 Michael Collins father was arguing against, like, Don't 3176 03:24:01,680 --> 03:24:04,560 bring no we don't need to get into the drug game. And 3177 03:24:04,560 --> 03:24:07,410 everybody was the other four families convinced them like 3178 03:24:07,530 --> 03:24:10,980 there's gonna be a drug market. And then whether they say long 3179 03:24:10,980 --> 03:24:14,280 as you keep it down there with the inwards. Yes, exactly, 3180 03:24:14,370 --> 03:24:18,030 exactly. That's exactly what they said. And it's ness. That's 3181 03:24:18,030 --> 03:24:22,200 a movie but that's been the sentiment. Because we you listen 3182 03:24:22,200 --> 03:24:25,500 to this net clip clip from James Bradley, talking about the 3183 03:24:25,500 --> 03:24:30,900 Roosevelt, opium empower. I'm out in China, and I find that 3184 03:24:31,110 --> 03:24:35,880 the grandfather of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, his name was 3185 03:24:35,880 --> 03:24:40,380 Warren Delano was the opium king of China. The fortune that 3186 03:24:40,380 --> 03:24:45,900 Franklin Delano Roosevelt lived off of custom made suits, nice 3187 03:24:45,900 --> 03:24:49,980 houses, sailboats, vacations, summer homes. He didn't make 3188 03:24:49,980 --> 03:24:54,000 that money he inherited from grandpa Warren Delano, the opium 3189 03:24:54,000 --> 03:24:58,350 king of China. Cabot house at Harvard opium Skull and Bones at 3190 03:24:58,350 --> 03:24:59,430 Yale opium 3191 03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:04,680 The Library of Columbia opium money, the if you go on the 3192 03:25:04,680 --> 03:25:07,950 Princeton website, at least they're honest, they will admit 3193 03:25:07,950 --> 03:25:11,130 that their first biggest benefactor, john green was an 3194 03:25:11,130 --> 03:25:15,210 opium dealer with Warren Delano. So the book is full of 3195 03:25:15,210 --> 03:25:18,960 surprises. I'll let you judge. It didn't change my view about 3196 03:25:18,960 --> 03:25:22,590 America so much. What it did is changed my view about American 3197 03:25:22,590 --> 03:25:23,460 historians. 3198 03:25:25,140 --> 03:25:29,640 Yes, poorly documented, no argument there. Absolutely. And 3199 03:25:29,640 --> 03:25:31,740 I think this is what you're alluded to about, you know, the 3200 03:25:31,740 --> 03:25:33,840 power structure not and I'll say this last thing, because you 3201 03:25:33,840 --> 03:25:37,290 brought it up the opioid epidemic, and people were like, 3202 03:25:37,290 --> 03:25:42,030 Well, you know, um, they won't didn't treat black people, white 3203 03:25:42,030 --> 03:25:44,280 people like they did black people doing the crack error. 3204 03:25:44,310 --> 03:25:47,700 And that's a very astute observation. But I don't think 3205 03:25:47,700 --> 03:25:51,960 they understand the reason why it's not about the victim, or 3206 03:25:51,960 --> 03:25:55,290 the user of the drug. It was about who is gonna be put in 3207 03:25:55,290 --> 03:25:57,360 handcuffs. If you 3208 03:25:58,800 --> 03:26:01,590 if something comes out. Yeah. It would have been a bunch of 3209 03:26:01,590 --> 03:26:04,140 doctors that would have hadn't been perp walk, yeah, out of 3210 03:26:04,140 --> 03:26:08,280 their legitimate establishment. And that is not going to happen. 3211 03:26:08,280 --> 03:26:12,360 Because the drug doctors have a lobby, they have a lobby, so 3212 03:26:12,360 --> 03:26:14,970 you're like, Nah, that's not gonna happen. And so like, we'll 3213 03:26:14,970 --> 03:26:17,880 pay a pay a penalty, other pharmaceutical companies, and 3214 03:26:17,880 --> 03:26:21,240 they hit more doctors didn't have to wasn't even covered 3215 03:26:21,240 --> 03:26:24,690 brother, it was not even covered. On the news. It was a 3216 03:26:24,690 --> 03:26:26,190 throwaway line 3217 03:26:28,200 --> 03:26:33,360 1000s of people dead because of this one company. And it wasn't 3218 03:26:33,360 --> 03:26:36,360 covered. Because not because of the color of the skin, maybe to 3219 03:26:36,360 --> 03:26:39,420 a lesser extent, maybe the color of skin that people that died, 3220 03:26:39,660 --> 03:26:44,430 it was about who sold it to him. That's the problem. And that's 3221 03:26:44,430 --> 03:26:47,280 why they didn't prosecute them in the same manner because 3222 03:26:47,580 --> 03:26:51,120 doctors are not getting locked up. That's just not happening in 3223 03:26:51,120 --> 03:26:55,050 this country. But also the media is who who's the number one 3224 03:26:55,050 --> 03:26:59,970 advertiser on television. Number one. Hello, pharma. You're not 3225 03:26:59,970 --> 03:27:02,910 gonna say anything about pharma, because that's your bread and 3226 03:27:02,910 --> 03:27:06,570 butter, you do not do not talk negatively about pharma. 3227 03:27:07,620 --> 03:27:12,300 So it's a scam. And once again, we'll look who's getting the bad 3228 03:27:12,300 --> 03:27:16,560 end of the stick. Yeah. And so that leads us into the next 3229 03:27:16,560 --> 03:27:20,460 clip, the meaning the meaning connection, what forces could be 3230 03:27:20,460 --> 03:27:24,870 responsible for compromising the entire system of justice? Bill 3231 03:27:24,870 --> 03:27:28,800 Clinton certainly knows. He was the governor of Arkansas who 3232 03:27:28,800 --> 03:27:32,430 will allow this version of his state government by the shadowy 3233 03:27:32,430 --> 03:27:36,330 forces radiating from the reagan bush white house, when ex CIA 3234 03:27:36,330 --> 03:27:40,140 director William Casey began using the CIA to illegally 3235 03:27:40,140 --> 03:27:44,640 conduct secret foreign policy. This serious reach of America's 3236 03:27:44,640 --> 03:27:48,930 constitutional authority was labeled by the media as Iran 3237 03:27:48,930 --> 03:27:53,250 Contra. This documentary will rewrite this dark period in 3238 03:27:53,250 --> 03:27:57,660 American history and leave you with annoying question. Who or 3239 03:27:57,660 --> 03:27:59,760 what is running this country? 3240 03:28:03,090 --> 03:28:03,930 gunrunning 3241 03:28:06,150 --> 03:28:08,670 mysterious CIA flights 3242 03:28:10,950 --> 03:28:12,510 control military training 3243 03:28:16,050 --> 03:28:17,790 guerrilla pilot training 3244 03:28:21,090 --> 03:28:22,650 Stein air drops 3245 03:28:26,280 --> 03:28:28,410 tons of illegal drugs. 3246 03:28:31,530 --> 03:28:33,900 Millions of dollars in dirty money. 3247 03:28:35,370 --> 03:28:38,910 covert activity in some third world Banana Republic, right? 3248 03:28:40,050 --> 03:28:40,680 Wrong. 3249 03:28:42,300 --> 03:28:45,930 Arkansas, America's own Banana Republic. 3250 03:28:48,060 --> 03:28:53,610 sauce I'll bring this up again. Cool Breeze said it on a Goodie 3251 03:28:53,610 --> 03:28:57,000 Mob song. He said dirty Bo clinic in front of me some wait. 3252 03:28:58,290 --> 03:29:02,670 This is the early 90s this is before the internet. This is not 3253 03:29:02,910 --> 03:29:07,020 some conspiracy theory. This is why known that the Clintons were 3254 03:29:07,020 --> 03:29:11,700 running heavy drugs in the south. And I have proof now. 3255 03:29:12,780 --> 03:29:16,710 of something I said a while back about one of the mechanisms or 3256 03:29:16,710 --> 03:29:20,340 one of the methods that used to transport it. And that was 3257 03:29:20,340 --> 03:29:25,860 inside of Tyson chickens. Yes. This is why Tyson chickens with 3258 03:29:25,860 --> 03:29:29,490 no excuse me This is why kilos of cocaine, I believe are 3259 03:29:29,490 --> 03:29:34,110 referred to as chickens. in Chronicles one, one of Hillary's 3260 03:29:34,110 --> 03:29:37,770 investments under the direction of Tyson Foods counselor James 3261 03:29:37,770 --> 03:29:44,550 Blair netted almost $100,000 on an initial $1,000 investment on 3262 03:29:44,550 --> 03:29:49,170 nearly impossible feet using legal methods. I can't read 3263 03:29:49,170 --> 03:29:53,670 their minds or speculate, but I had absolutely no reason to 3264 03:29:53,670 --> 03:29:56,610 believe that I got any favorable treatment. 3265 03:29:57,750 --> 03:29:59,970 Coincidentally, Governor Clinton the next 3266 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:03,330 To the number of state regulations allowing Tyson Foods 3267 03:30:03,540 --> 03:30:06,420 to grow into the largest industry in Arkansas. 3268 03:30:07,710 --> 03:30:13,350 Don Tyson put in six $700,000 all told in all of Bill 3269 03:30:13,350 --> 03:30:14,430 Clinton's campaign. 3270 03:30:16,109 --> 03:30:19,679 Guess what he got out of it? He got $10 million 3271 03:30:21,120 --> 03:30:22,140 guessed from where 3272 03:30:23,160 --> 03:30:27,090 the Arkansas development finance authority and he never paid a 3273 03:30:27,090 --> 03:30:27,810 dime for 3274 03:30:28,830 --> 03:30:35,340 had heard rumors of Don Tyson in his allege cocaine use and 3275 03:30:36,060 --> 03:30:39,750 distribution. Now went through the intelligence files and come 3276 03:30:39,750 --> 03:30:41,940 up with enough that I thought was sufficient amount of 3277 03:30:41,940 --> 03:30:46,050 evidence to launch investigation. Now, Mr. Tyson's 3278 03:30:46,170 --> 03:30:49,650 out simply out of Arkansas State Police intelligence files has 3279 03:30:49,650 --> 03:30:51,030 been accumulated for years. 3280 03:30:52,170 --> 03:30:56,130 Yeah, and there was also a nice nod to this in breaking bad if 3281 03:30:56,130 --> 03:30:56,850 you remember 3282 03:30:57,870 --> 03:31:02,130 or Polo chicken was being used. And you know, where the 3283 03:31:02,130 --> 03:31:06,210 distribution centers are alleged to be that the Tyson trucks were 3284 03:31:06,210 --> 03:31:06,990 showing up at 3285 03:31:08,850 --> 03:31:11,190 to tell Walmart's 3286 03:31:13,230 --> 03:31:15,300 course another fine Arkansas for 3287 03:31:16,440 --> 03:31:19,740 witches, witches. So this as the story goes, and this is all 3288 03:31:19,740 --> 03:31:23,490 alleged. This is all all alleged. 3289 03:31:24,690 --> 03:31:26,790 Load up the chickens full of cocaine. 3290 03:31:27,930 --> 03:31:31,800 Go all across the nation to Walmart, if the chickens out, 3291 03:31:32,760 --> 03:31:36,060 put the chickens on the shelf. The cocaine goes out the back 3292 03:31:36,060 --> 03:31:39,810 door. Mm hmm. Um, that's pretty well established this. I think 3293 03:31:39,810 --> 03:31:44,820 these are facts. Right? I'm just saying for people. So it's not 3294 03:31:44,820 --> 03:31:47,280 just we're not talking about Roseville in the you know, in 3295 03:31:47,280 --> 03:31:50,640 the opium trade. We're talking about people that are still in 3296 03:31:50,640 --> 03:31:54,180 power today. That may be you know, saying made these 3297 03:31:54,180 --> 03:31:57,840 decisions, the impact that you're saying the community and 3298 03:31:57,870 --> 03:32:01,890 the culture, if they will say, and nobody's held to task and 3299 03:32:01,890 --> 03:32:03,990 then you turn around and you want to work with these people. 3300 03:32:04,590 --> 03:32:08,100 And then you want to demonize other I mean, I'm just like, 3301 03:32:08,130 --> 03:32:11,400 let's just be fair, however we call it if you want to call it 3302 03:32:11,400 --> 03:32:13,710 loose, you want to call it tight, that's fine, but call it 3303 03:32:13,710 --> 03:32:14,190 fair. 3304 03:32:16,650 --> 03:32:19,440 Is the man it's amazing. It is amazing. 3305 03:32:20,880 --> 03:32:24,000 This information is out there for for the consump people's 3306 03:32:24,000 --> 03:32:27,240 consumption, but nobody does anything with it. Well, I want 3307 03:32:27,240 --> 03:32:30,780 to I have some some things to say. But I want to get through 3308 03:32:30,780 --> 03:32:33,510 the clinton Chronicles clips. First, I want to hear what we've 3309 03:32:33,510 --> 03:32:37,470 got. Okay, number two, a great deal of criminal investigation 3310 03:32:37,470 --> 03:32:41,430 files were surfacing with Don Tyson's name mentioned in there 3311 03:32:41,430 --> 03:32:45,210 as being involved with some drug and narcotics trafficking 3312 03:32:45,240 --> 03:32:49,170 activities. So I interviewed some of the investigators who 3313 03:32:49,170 --> 03:32:52,980 worked on the Tyson case. Most of them felt that Tyson should 3314 03:32:52,980 --> 03:32:57,180 have been indicted. But the investigations were always 3315 03:32:58,020 --> 03:33:04,380 sabotaged. Oftentimes from within one particular undercover 3316 03:33:04,410 --> 03:33:06,210 narc agent told me that 3317 03:33:07,650 --> 03:33:12,810 another criminal investigator in that department named Doug Foley 3318 03:33:12,960 --> 03:33:17,640 was furnishing Don Tyson with photographs of the undercover 3319 03:33:17,640 --> 03:33:20,910 narcotics agents that were working on his case, Donald 3320 03:33:20,910 --> 03:33:25,230 smalls was actually hired to look into the allegations that 3321 03:33:26,220 --> 03:33:32,370 Tyson had given bribes to different people, specifically 3322 03:33:32,790 --> 03:33:35,670 to the Secretary of Agriculture, Mike espy. 3323 03:33:36,780 --> 03:33:39,960 And what came out of that investigation was very 3324 03:33:39,960 --> 03:33:41,850 remarkable. Drug Abuse 3325 03:33:44,580 --> 03:33:48,060 drug distribution, money laundering, even murder for 3326 03:33:48,060 --> 03:33:48,420 hire. 3327 03:33:49,770 --> 03:33:53,370 Now a small has collected all this stuff, he compiled it, he 3328 03:33:53,370 --> 03:33:54,480 put it in proper order. 3329 03:33:55,980 --> 03:33:57,390 Approach Janet Reno 3330 03:33:59,160 --> 03:34:02,070 and said, Look, you know, I need to broaden my investigation. I'm 3331 03:34:02,070 --> 03:34:07,110 finding more here than just simple payoffs. What do you 3332 03:34:07,110 --> 03:34:07,800 think happened? 3333 03:34:09,420 --> 03:34:12,420 Now most of you already know, he was turned down. 3334 03:34:13,560 --> 03:34:14,160 Huh? 3335 03:34:15,540 --> 03:34:17,100 Clinton hasn't goons. 3336 03:34:19,710 --> 03:34:23,850 those goons okay, right now. I'm holding I'm holding. I'm holding 3337 03:34:23,850 --> 03:34:27,060 mo I'm holding I'm holding back I'm holding back. Alright, so 3338 03:34:27,060 --> 03:34:30,510 let's go and jump into three. Don Tyson was in the middle of 3339 03:34:30,510 --> 03:34:32,520 the cocaine just like Bill Clinton. 3340 03:34:33,600 --> 03:34:40,710 Slide Dan last, just like Roger, and all the so you see all of 3341 03:34:40,710 --> 03:34:41,670 this insist? 3342 03:34:42,750 --> 03:34:47,400 All of this drug run all of the trafficking drugs, sending them 3343 03:34:47,400 --> 03:34:48,420 all over the nation. 3344 03:34:49,530 --> 03:34:50,670 Little in Arkansas, 3345 03:34:51,720 --> 03:34:54,780 right under the nose, a little Governor Bill Clinton. 3346 03:34:56,790 --> 03:34:57,450 I went to Bill 3347 03:34:59,010 --> 03:35:00,000 and I said bill, you 3348 03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:04,410 Got two weeks to tell the truth. I'm gonna tell you're breaking 3349 03:35:04,410 --> 03:35:07,230 the law and I can't be a part of you made mistake. I'm not one of 3350 03:35:07,230 --> 03:35:11,730 your buddies released. I'm not that big a buddy. When Larry 3351 03:35:11,730 --> 03:35:16,590 Nichols made his disclosures made them public. 3352 03:35:17,910 --> 03:35:19,800 The Clintons spin doctor 3353 03:35:20,820 --> 03:35:26,700 treated him on mercifully. It shocked both of us who had been 3354 03:35:26,700 --> 03:35:31,650 kept in the dark through the years and Arkansas politics. The 3355 03:35:31,650 --> 03:35:36,930 Arkansas news media had done little, if anything on tober, 3356 03:35:36,960 --> 03:35:40,740 anything derogatory about Bill Clinton. 3357 03:35:41,790 --> 03:35:46,080 And for these disclosures to come out of the blue was so 3358 03:35:46,080 --> 03:35:46,800 shocking 3359 03:35:48,150 --> 03:35:53,100 that the Spin Doctors attack the messenger 3360 03:35:54,570 --> 03:35:59,040 rather than tried to answer crab to answer the charges that 3361 03:35:59,040 --> 03:36:00,240 Nicolas had made. 3362 03:36:02,520 --> 03:36:03,000 Well, 3363 03:36:04,200 --> 03:36:04,950 I have some, 3364 03:36:06,570 --> 03:36:11,820 some perspective on this, please. My uncle, Donald Greg, 3365 03:36:12,090 --> 03:36:17,070 who was in the CIA, when before it was CIA, he's now just in his 3366 03:36:17,070 --> 03:36:23,160 90s. It was still the OSS. He had to testify in front of 3367 03:36:23,160 --> 03:36:27,750 Congress and was implicated in the Iran Contra scandal, as he 3368 03:36:27,750 --> 03:36:29,370 at the time was 3369 03:36:30,390 --> 03:36:35,940 Vice President Bush's national security adviser. And he got off 3370 03:36:35,940 --> 03:36:42,750 scot free. But within the family, the discussion was kind 3371 03:36:42,750 --> 03:36:47,250 of well, he didn't cover his boss's ass, which if you look 3372 03:36:47,250 --> 03:36:50,490 into him, and by the way, I think uncle Don is a patriot. 3373 03:36:50,490 --> 03:36:54,660 And I think he was a useful idiot in this in this Gambit, 3374 03:36:55,170 --> 03:37:01,530 because it's always been played as this was drugs for guns, and 3375 03:37:01,560 --> 03:37:07,200 that the CIA was giving guns or selling guns to the Contras. 3376 03:37:08,370 --> 03:37:13,800 And doing that, in, the only payment they could accept was 3377 03:37:14,010 --> 03:37:17,460 cocaine and they turned that into crack cocaine and then 3378 03:37:17,730 --> 03:37:20,610 eventually spread that out on the on the streets of 3379 03:37:20,760 --> 03:37:22,830 California, Los Angeles in particular. 3380 03:37:24,390 --> 03:37:32,460 It is my belief that this was always a false view of what was 3381 03:37:32,460 --> 03:37:36,360 really going on. Because the Clintons, they're just pawns and 3382 03:37:36,360 --> 03:37:40,740 Bill Clinton is a nice guy, but he's dumb. And and look at his 3383 03:37:40,740 --> 03:37:43,350 brother Roger. And so they were working for the bushes. The 3384 03:37:43,350 --> 03:37:47,790 bushes are truly the crime family that maybe no longer I'm 3385 03:37:47,790 --> 03:37:50,010 not quite sure what's left of it. But 3386 03:37:51,570 --> 03:37:57,690 daddy bush Papa bush puppy. He was the guy who started in the 3387 03:37:57,690 --> 03:37:59,430 CIA at the very beginning. 3388 03:38:00,660 --> 03:38:06,390 And I believe President Eisenhower said it, President 3389 03:38:06,390 --> 03:38:10,650 Kennedy felt it was some hot lead. The CIA is running all of 3390 03:38:10,650 --> 03:38:14,340 this, the CIA has been running the drugs in the United States 3391 03:38:14,340 --> 03:38:19,860 for a long, long time. Possibly before you and I were even born, 3392 03:38:20,250 --> 03:38:25,320 they are a complete criminal organization. And 3393 03:38:27,120 --> 03:38:30,750 with a little bit of a little bit of luck, but a lot of skill. 3394 03:38:31,050 --> 03:38:36,630 45 savage may be able to uncover this. It may be part of the big 3395 03:38:36,630 --> 03:38:42,780 review. But the CIA is a toxic, horrible organization not has 3396 03:38:42,840 --> 03:38:47,190 wasn't always that way. But it didn't take long before it got 3397 03:38:47,190 --> 03:38:50,940 corrupted. They have unlimited power. They have unlimited money 3398 03:38:50,940 --> 03:38:55,020 because they sell the drugs. If I think we discussed the Bush 3399 03:38:55,020 --> 03:38:57,930 family, actually they own property in Compton. 3400 03:38:59,190 --> 03:39:03,300 No, they know that's where he was. Compton is where George W. 3401 03:39:03,780 --> 03:39:10,260 George Herbert. Hey, George, h, h. h h. w. w. h whatever his. He 3402 03:39:10,260 --> 03:39:14,550 was. He lived in Compton, right? Yeah. And that's where they the 3403 03:39:14,550 --> 03:39:20,700 CIA agents supposedly showed street level drug dealers how to 3404 03:39:20,700 --> 03:39:24,330 cook up the crack. That's exactly true. It's the CIA, 3405 03:39:24,570 --> 03:39:27,390 which their Christmas there. They're like, they're the 3406 03:39:27,390 --> 03:39:31,650 criminals. There's the criminals mo it's not the Clintons is 3407 03:39:31,650 --> 03:39:34,980 just, I mean, everyone, look, please focus on the Clintons. 3408 03:39:34,980 --> 03:39:37,470 Whatever you do, focus on the Clintons don't focus on the 3409 03:39:37,470 --> 03:39:41,400 bushes and don't focus on the CIA. It's my opinion, I have a 3410 03:39:41,400 --> 03:39:44,730 little more insight than most. I'm pretty sure the true 3411 03:39:44,730 --> 03:39:48,210 criminals at the top is going to be your Central Intelligence 3412 03:39:48,240 --> 03:39:53,460 Agency in its modern form, not what they started offering. And 3413 03:39:53,460 --> 03:39:57,660 I always say this, the most powerful man in this country 3414 03:39:58,320 --> 03:39:59,970 maybe in the second 3415 03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:06,450 Half of the 1900s was George Bush Senior. Yes, sir. Because 3416 03:40:06,450 --> 03:40:09,210 if you look at how long that flag was half mass 3417 03:40:10,620 --> 03:40:14,580 when he passed, I've never seen it. I was like, cuz at work, we 3418 03:40:14,580 --> 03:40:18,930 know we have the flag half mass on national tragedies. Yeah, I 3419 03:40:18,930 --> 03:40:21,720 was like that thing still that who has died, and it was still 3420 03:40:21,720 --> 03:40:26,340 for him. And that lets you know the power. I'm all on board with 3421 03:40:26,340 --> 03:40:29,850 you. He Reagan gets the blame for I don't think Reagan had the 3422 03:40:29,850 --> 03:40:34,770 mental capacity at the time. I think the whole? No, I think it 3423 03:40:34,770 --> 03:40:37,620 was the eight years that he was vice president coming straight 3424 03:40:37,620 --> 03:40:38,490 out of the CIA. 3425 03:40:41,250 --> 03:40:44,130 He ran it for another four years. On a when he was 3426 03:40:44,130 --> 03:40:48,090 president. And then he ran it for another eight years under 3427 03:40:48,090 --> 03:40:55,410 his stooge, the George me asking me, Bill Clinton. Yes. So I'm in 3428 03:40:55,410 --> 03:40:56,490 total green. 3429 03:40:57,990 --> 03:41:00,540 Isn't the Spin Doctors we know who the spend czar? That's the 3430 03:41:00,540 --> 03:41:04,650 media, and the media will never It's amazing. If george bush 3431 03:41:04,650 --> 03:41:07,560 wanted to defeat Bill Clinton, this would have been public 3432 03:41:07,560 --> 03:41:08,070 knowledge. 3433 03:41:09,150 --> 03:41:11,010 Yes. But it wasn't 3434 03:41:12,090 --> 03:41:16,440 one other data point. That's kind of fun. If I say 911 2001 3435 03:41:16,470 --> 03:41:20,880 you know exactly where you were. Right? Right. Okay, so do I. If 3436 03:41:20,880 --> 03:41:24,300 you say to anyone to your parents, you say Do you remember 3437 03:41:24,300 --> 03:41:26,940 where you were when Kennedy got shot? I don't know exactly where 3438 03:41:26,940 --> 03:41:31,380 they were. The one man in america who on record has said I 3439 03:41:31,380 --> 03:41:33,030 can't remember where I was. 3440 03:41:35,310 --> 03:41:39,870 is George Herbert Walker Bush. He's on record Don't forget 3441 03:41:39,870 --> 03:41:40,410 poppy 3442 03:41:41,940 --> 03:41:43,320 pot. Well, he that is Poppy. 3443 03:41:44,430 --> 03:41:46,890 I know that's what they don't forget the poppy. Yeah. Oh, 3444 03:41:46,890 --> 03:41:49,620 please. Exactly. Why do they call him poppy? We know that. 3445 03:41:50,490 --> 03:41:54,870 Please. But he does not know where he was on the day. 3446 03:41:54,900 --> 03:41:56,730 President Kennedy was assassinated 3447 03:41:57,780 --> 03:42:00,120 in one day This will come out I hope we're still around when it 3448 03:42:00,120 --> 03:42:02,760 does. And do you know why I think 3449 03:42:03,930 --> 03:42:06,660 or a weird analogy because it's just like what the chickens 3450 03:42:06,690 --> 03:42:09,360 while was cocaine college she's always wanted that. 3451 03:42:10,620 --> 03:42:13,770 I like that a lot. I like that well you know that guy with all 3452 03:42:13,770 --> 03:42:15,420 the chickens you know what they call him? 3453 03:42:16,530 --> 03:42:17,100 poppy 3454 03:42:19,500 --> 03:42:23,250 get out of town. Going to see poppy to get numbers get them 3455 03:42:23,250 --> 03:42:23,880 breaks 3456 03:42:25,980 --> 03:42:27,180 I didn't know that. That's cool. 3457 03:42:29,610 --> 03:42:34,980 It's this it's this crossover between elite level 3458 03:42:36,240 --> 03:42:41,730 criminality and elite level a separate criminality and I'm not 3459 03:42:41,730 --> 03:42:44,520 gonna make a difference between the two but it's what also look 3460 03:42:44,520 --> 03:42:47,760 at it. Look at it, look at it as an organization look at it as an 3461 03:42:47,760 --> 03:42:50,730 army. And look at on here. They've got the the marketing 3462 03:42:50,730 --> 03:42:55,890 arm media. They've got you know, the the lawyers, which is 3463 03:42:55,920 --> 03:42:59,820 literal lawyers, who also are all politicians, or most 3464 03:42:59,820 --> 03:43:03,510 politicians are lawyers. They've got the whole thing all the way 3465 03:43:03,510 --> 03:43:06,210 down the line. And they've got all and yeah, who cares if a 3466 03:43:06,210 --> 03:43:10,740 couple of black guys go to jail? Wait a minute. I do like what 3467 03:43:10,740 --> 03:43:13,800 they're doing with this drug culture songs. And we got to 3468 03:43:13,800 --> 03:43:18,660 promote that a little bit. It's, it is so and this is what I in 3469 03:43:18,660 --> 03:43:23,730 my heart of hearts believe that Trump is trying to show us this 3470 03:43:23,760 --> 03:43:28,530 now. And I don't know how far he'll get. I really pray for him 3471 03:43:28,530 --> 03:43:31,440 that he does it because that's the swamp man. Now you're 3472 03:43:31,440 --> 03:43:35,430 talking swamp and he has made some moves that mimic what 3473 03:43:35,430 --> 03:43:40,080 Kennedy did back in the late 50s, particularly as it pertains 3474 03:43:40,080 --> 03:43:44,790 to the CIA's power. And you may have seen this little switchover 3475 03:43:44,790 --> 03:43:47,550 that they did with special operations, which is pretty much 3476 03:43:47,550 --> 03:43:52,080 the CIA was running them for everything, from Libya, to Syria 3477 03:43:52,110 --> 03:43:59,280 to you name it to Benghazi, all CIA run operations. And I 3478 03:43:59,280 --> 03:44:01,950 believe that they were there. That's why everyone is so what's 3479 03:44:01,950 --> 03:44:05,700 so crazy about Trump, it's like, oh, my God, this guy just might 3480 03:44:05,700 --> 03:44:10,560 expose us because it's so rampant so widespread, and the 3481 03:44:10,560 --> 03:44:14,970 world is so connected to things getting a bit hot, because fans 3482 03:44:14,970 --> 03:44:18,420 will find stuff out and idiots on podcast, talk about it, and 3483 03:44:18,420 --> 03:44:22,260 people get wise to it. And we're still in Afghanistan, just like 3484 03:44:22,260 --> 03:44:24,750 this, though. Don't let that escape you. Oh, and and please, 3485 03:44:25,170 --> 03:44:28,350 please do look at where our troops are stationed. And you 3486 03:44:28,350 --> 03:44:32,190 will see that they are exactly in the areas where the poppy 3487 03:44:32,190 --> 03:44:36,780 fields are. It's called protection. Right? Which we saw 3488 03:44:36,780 --> 03:44:40,050 the same thing with Vietnam War and the influx of 3489 03:44:41,190 --> 03:44:44,940 the country to go see an American president. Wasn't that 3490 03:44:45,180 --> 03:44:48,600 Denzil American Gangster American Gangster wish that will 3491 03:44:48,600 --> 03:44:53,460 be who they equate a freeway Ricky Ross to all he was running 3492 03:44:53,460 --> 03:44:56,550 the whole thing. It's like Brooke, come on. Come on. No 3493 03:44:56,550 --> 03:44:59,970 way. No way. No, no, no. No 3494 03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:06,300 does not tell I would not be allowed in the conspiracy 3495 03:45:06,330 --> 03:45:10,860 conspiracy theory community if I didn't let this last chunk of 3496 03:45:10,890 --> 03:45:14,430 information get by me. Let's just jump right into it Gucci 3497 03:45:14,430 --> 03:45:19,050 man and Charlemagne to make me think of Gucci clone 3498 03:45:19,050 --> 03:45:22,830 conspiracies or reflection of how toxic like the hood 3499 03:45:22,830 --> 03:45:23,550 mentality. 3500 03:45:24,660 --> 03:45:27,780 I kind of it was entertaining to me. Yeah, I kind of thought it 3501 03:45:27,780 --> 03:45:31,770 was funny. I enjoyed the Gucci Mane gonna see him for you feel 3502 03:45:31,770 --> 03:45:34,440 like a clone. Now I don't feel like a clone. But I did kind of 3503 03:45:34,440 --> 03:45:38,250 like the minute she was fun. It was fun like Danny thanks I'm 3504 03:45:38,250 --> 03:45:41,880 not really the same person. I didn't look at it like I didn't 3505 03:45:41,880 --> 03:45:44,040 fit me I kind of wanted him to keep it going. That's a 3506 03:45:44,040 --> 03:45:47,160 compliment. Yeah, like now now I was saying not not not him. I 3507 03:45:47,160 --> 03:45:49,680 did again now it's like now not a clone. Keep going with a 3508 03:45:49,680 --> 03:45:55,020 clone. I don't. I'm not familiar with the Gucci Mane clone. So he 3509 03:45:55,020 --> 03:45:58,020 made such a transformation come out of jail. People thought he 3510 03:45:58,020 --> 03:45:59,280 would clone in jail. 3511 03:46:01,530 --> 03:46:05,430 Okay, well, I don't subscribe to that because I think cloning is 3512 03:46:05,430 --> 03:46:11,160 a very a tedious process. I do think is this and I do think 3513 03:46:11,160 --> 03:46:14,550 that but i think they're so unstable. This is just my 3514 03:46:14,550 --> 03:46:17,130 personal opinion. I don't know any clowns that I don't know. I 3515 03:46:17,130 --> 03:46:17,910 can't speak for 3516 03:46:19,020 --> 03:46:23,430 Rocco the dog man I think Rocco might be a clone. Right? So I 3517 03:46:23,430 --> 03:46:24,210 don't think 3518 03:46:25,410 --> 03:46:28,440 counting coochie man was the best option. But can I get a 3519 03:46:28,440 --> 03:46:30,360 little theorem in here? Cuz Uh 3520 03:46:31,440 --> 03:46:34,740 oh, I do hold on hold on. I got a tune it up. There we go. You 3521 03:46:34,740 --> 03:46:37,020 gotta plug that thing in. Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, 3522 03:46:37,020 --> 03:46:40,980 we're going off the rails mo calls from the can't be good. 3523 03:46:43,050 --> 03:46:46,770 If you want to subscribe to something happened to Gucci 3524 03:46:46,770 --> 03:46:51,150 while he was in jail. That helped him with this 3525 03:46:51,480 --> 03:46:56,820 transformation. I would go more with MK Archer, rather than 3526 03:46:56,820 --> 03:47:01,020 cloning, because if you change a person's mind on that level, I'm 3527 03:47:01,020 --> 03:47:03,840 not saying he was I'm just saying I think there's if you 3528 03:47:03,840 --> 03:47:06,570 want to go conspiracy theory with Gucci man. 3529 03:47:07,860 --> 03:47:12,000 Pam being in a federal prison in Atlanta, will be a great 3530 03:47:12,030 --> 03:47:17,940 opportunity to mine control him. That way you can control all his 3531 03:47:18,210 --> 03:47:23,280 supporters and spawns when he's released back to the streets. I 3532 03:47:23,280 --> 03:47:27,270 think that's a far more plausible conspiracy. Sure, then 3533 03:47:27,270 --> 03:47:28,020 the cloning. 3534 03:47:29,130 --> 03:47:34,200 And well, love It's 45 while America's intellectual and 3535 03:47:34,200 --> 03:47:37,440 artistic elite were experimenting with acid for self 3536 03:47:37,470 --> 03:47:41,520 exploration, the US government was secretly giving this 3537 03:47:41,520 --> 03:47:47,040 powerful new drug to prisoners, prostitutes, drug people who 3538 03:47:47,040 --> 03:47:50,430 couldn't fight back is one CIA officer put in. 3539 03:47:51,450 --> 03:47:55,680 Maybe the unabomber was given LSD as well. Though we'll never 3540 03:47:55,680 --> 03:48:00,690 know for sure. Thanks to CIA director Richard Helms is having 3541 03:48:00,690 --> 03:48:03,030 most of the program's records destroy. 3542 03:48:04,470 --> 03:48:09,240 This is Boston mobster Whiting Bolger, who was another 3543 03:48:09,240 --> 03:48:12,930 illustrious graduate of MK Ultra, and he was definitely 3544 03:48:12,930 --> 03:48:17,100 given LSD while in Atlanta federal prison as a volunteer. 3545 03:48:17,490 --> 03:48:21,780 Alleged mobster James whitey Bolger fled Boston in late 1994. 3546 03:48:21,780 --> 03:48:25,020 His federal agents were about to arrest him in connection with 19 3547 03:48:25,020 --> 03:48:27,690 killings racketeering and other crimes that spanned the early 3548 03:48:27,690 --> 03:48:32,700 1970s to mid 1980s. Roger went into prison as a small time 3549 03:48:32,700 --> 03:48:37,020 thug. But when he got out he took over the Boston underworld 3550 03:48:37,260 --> 03:48:40,980 by corrupting nearly the entire Boston FBI office. 3551 03:48:42,090 --> 03:48:45,780 James whitey Bolger went on to become Boston's most powerful 3552 03:48:45,780 --> 03:48:51,000 criminal is spent 16 years on FBI most wanted list. whitey 3553 03:48:51,000 --> 03:48:54,570 bolger's henchmen later testified during his various 3554 03:48:54,570 --> 03:48:57,990 trials that the gangster often talked about his experience with 3555 03:48:57,990 --> 03:49:03,360 LSD, and that it quote, took him to the depths of insanity. Did 3556 03:49:03,360 --> 03:49:07,440 LSD help transform a simple South Boston truck hijacker into 3557 03:49:07,440 --> 03:49:10,560 a brilliant criminal and unanswerable question to be 3558 03:49:10,560 --> 03:49:13,470 sure, but an interesting one nonetheless. 3559 03:49:15,690 --> 03:49:19,260 I love what evolved. You're coming back man because whitey 3560 03:49:19,260 --> 03:49:23,280 Bolger fingerprints are over a lot of stuff these days. Do you 3561 03:49:23,280 --> 03:49:26,910 know who he was? Landon? Yeah, no, go ahead. Go ahead. Go 3562 03:49:26,910 --> 03:49:31,950 ahead. Go ahead. Now he was in Atlanta, federal prison when he 3563 03:49:31,950 --> 03:49:34,290 was allegedly put into MK Ultra 3564 03:49:35,460 --> 03:49:40,260 program. Yeah, and who was involved in 3565 03:49:41,970 --> 03:49:45,480 whitey bolger's downfall and who has visited him in prison in the 3566 03:49:45,480 --> 03:49:47,400 last five years? 3567 03:49:48,990 --> 03:49:52,410 Who was that? I don't know. He got me a special prosecutor 3568 03:49:52,410 --> 03:49:53,280 Robert Muller. 3569 03:49:55,470 --> 03:49:59,970 Oh, yeah. Are Muller all connected to whitey Bolger? Why 3570 03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:06,000 Bolger who died in prison was a very big 45 savage fan. 3571 03:50:08,069 --> 03:50:14,159 Um, so you take those those four names and and look who wound up 3572 03:50:14,159 --> 03:50:17,939 dead. Although I don't know if he died if any, we don't know 3573 03:50:17,969 --> 03:50:19,889 because why don't we know we're just reading something right? 3574 03:50:20,429 --> 03:50:24,089 Right. So yes to MK Ultra possibly. 3575 03:50:25,200 --> 03:50:29,340 also possibly that someone got some real truth on the inside. 3576 03:50:30,090 --> 03:50:31,140 It's like Oh, wait a minute. 3577 03:50:32,970 --> 03:50:35,370 It's not like I said, I'm not saying I'm not saying that he 3578 03:50:35,370 --> 03:50:38,160 went under MK Archer. I'm just saying that so far more 3579 03:50:38,160 --> 03:50:41,940 plausible. If you want to say we can't do it on its own. That's a 3580 03:50:41,940 --> 03:50:47,910 far more plausible conspiracy. It is. But I think the MK Ultra 3581 03:50:47,940 --> 03:50:49,620 is actually a cover 3582 03:50:51,030 --> 03:50:53,220 before the whitey Bolger connections, 3583 03:50:54,270 --> 03:50:59,580 okay, okay. You know, I'm saying so, yeah, so this is why when I 3584 03:50:59,580 --> 03:51:03,720 look at, well Moeller everybody, gosh, man. You know, 3585 03:51:05,850 --> 03:51:10,590 these people are so corrupt. Look at 911 you know, just since 3586 03:51:11,430 --> 03:51:15,720 since we've since we played the theramin cool coup, who became 3587 03:51:15,720 --> 03:51:19,110 FBI Director two weeks before 911. 3588 03:51:20,220 --> 03:51:24,690 That Moeller Robert Muller. Now, ever since J. Edgar Hoover, you 3589 03:51:24,690 --> 03:51:25,860 know, the black man. 3590 03:51:28,020 --> 03:51:28,530 Ever since 3591 03:51:29,610 --> 03:51:30,240 a black man. 3592 03:51:32,550 --> 03:51:37,740 passable, very passable black man, ever since J. Edgar Hoover 3593 03:51:37,770 --> 03:51:41,340 started the FBI really as a blackmail operation. And, of 3594 03:51:41,340 --> 03:51:46,320 course, that all came out a law was put on the books when you 3595 03:51:46,320 --> 03:51:50,940 couldn't just change easily. And the law was, the FBI Director, 3596 03:51:51,180 --> 03:51:56,820 by statute cannot be in office more than 10 years. So when we 3597 03:51:56,820 --> 03:52:00,360 had 911, and we had all the crap going on in the Middle East. 3598 03:52:00,600 --> 03:52:04,830 And, you know, for those of you who were alive 20 years ago, 3599 03:52:04,830 --> 03:52:09,900 this 911 thing that was crazy, crazy times, now everyone was 3600 03:52:09,900 --> 03:52:13,110 confused, everyone was and the internet just just kind of 3601 03:52:13,140 --> 03:52:16,170 really started going wide, so people could look stuff up. And 3602 03:52:18,660 --> 03:52:23,760 so when Obama came in, they did something very remarkable. They 3603 03:52:24,120 --> 03:52:27,840 threw a number of tricks, and I don't even know if it was legal. 3604 03:52:28,380 --> 03:52:31,980 They somehow finagle this statute of 10 years and gave 3605 03:52:31,980 --> 03:52:36,150 Robert Muller an extra two years in the Obama administration. I'm 3606 03:52:36,150 --> 03:52:40,140 telling you, this is rotten to the core. And it's it's, it's, 3607 03:52:40,290 --> 03:52:42,540 hey, they don't call it the White House for nothing. 3608 03:52:44,160 --> 03:52:50,070 This it's it's been very, very bad. And it would be beautiful 3609 03:52:50,070 --> 03:52:53,460 for it all to come out and everyone to be able to see how 3610 03:52:53,460 --> 03:52:57,600 the upper echelons of our world but certainly of our country 3611 03:52:58,110 --> 03:52:58,620 have 3612 03:53:00,000 --> 03:53:06,210 really propagated a war for profit and for lots of power on 3613 03:53:06,210 --> 03:53:10,200 the American people in different forms. You know, we got we got 3614 03:53:10,200 --> 03:53:12,780 different drugs for different classes of people we've been 3615 03:53:12,780 --> 03:53:16,710 through that we've seen it all happen and so what if those 3616 03:53:16,710 --> 03:53:20,370 people down at the bottom get killed that's who these people 3617 03:53:20,370 --> 03:53:23,790 are, that's who's really running the country or was running the 3618 03:53:23,790 --> 03:53:28,110 country or maybe still is we don't know. But that's how bad 3619 03:53:28,110 --> 03:53:31,740 it is mo and and and, and we've kind of approach it from the 3620 03:53:31,740 --> 03:53:35,520 bottom up, which is the way to go so the way to look at it is 3621 03:53:35,520 --> 03:53:38,100 just go all the way up through the chicken to the Clinton to 3622 03:53:38,100 --> 03:53:42,180 the bushes to the CIA. God knows who else is up above this. 3623 03:53:43,500 --> 03:53:47,130 You see all the fingerprints yet all you have to do is use and 3624 03:53:47,160 --> 03:53:51,780 actually to follow the next day follow the paper trail from from 3625 03:53:51,780 --> 03:53:54,480 the bottom you had to start at one end and we don't know what's 3626 03:53:54,480 --> 03:53:57,420 the top end so at least we can start at the bottom in and then 3627 03:53:57,420 --> 03:54:00,540 we keep following the stream and here's here's a thought stop 3628 03:54:00,540 --> 03:54:02,310 voting for these assholes 3629 03:54:03,450 --> 03:54:07,500 we gave you a warning at the beginning stop voting for them 3630 03:54:07,650 --> 03:54:10,530 you're killing yourself as 3631 03:54:12,840 --> 03:54:14,760 well Adam mess my rap on the verse 3632 03:54:17,700 --> 03:54:21,060 and it's just it's an it's just another part of that system man 3633 03:54:22,020 --> 03:54:24,810 it's everything's been co opted which is why we have to keep 3634 03:54:24,810 --> 03:54:28,380 podcasting alive. It's the truly the last independent 3635 03:54:30,390 --> 03:54:35,310 non send decentralized content distribution system we have if 3636 03:54:35,310 --> 03:54:39,240 the last post the free media and we do yes it is and we hope that 3637 03:54:39,240 --> 03:54:41,940 you will continue to support this for this and many other 3638 03:54:41,940 --> 03:54:45,210 reasons and if you got any type of value from this show, I know 3639 03:54:45,210 --> 03:54:50,160 I always do but these are four hours of my life I will cherish 3640 03:54:50,160 --> 03:54:53,490 I love doing this one with you mo because I I learned so much 3641 03:54:53,490 --> 03:54:57,240 more than other episodes because I mean just what do I know about 3642 03:54:57,240 --> 03:54:59,700 trap so I know the names etc. But 3643 03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:02,760 has been really really educational and I think we got 3644 03:55:02,760 --> 03:55:05,100 to something good here that people can learn something from. 3645 03:55:05,490 --> 03:55:08,820 So do consider supporting us at mo facts.com 3646 03:55:10,260 --> 03:55:13,950 and as I always say, pay attention to everything and the 3647 03:55:13,950 --> 03:55:17,700 truth reveal itself mo I look forward to our next encounter my 3648 03:55:17,700 --> 03:55:18,150 friend 3649 03:55:19,260 --> 03:55:22,140 all right See you next time. All right everybody take care most 3650 03:55:22,140 --> 03:55:24,210 x.com See you next time. 3651 03:55:42,150 --> 03:55:43,560 Even more so it 3652 03:55:47,430 --> 03:55:48,120 brings on 3653 03:55:51,150 --> 03:55:53,220 man oh man. 3654 03:55:54,900 --> 03:55:56,700 Before you go home 3655 03:56:00,480 --> 03:56:00,990 to the 3656 03:56:09,000 --> 03:56:09,540 machine. 3657 03:56:45,840 --> 03:56:46,500 The middle 3658 03:56:50,550 --> 03:56:51,600 against us. 3659 03:57:33,720 --> 03:57:34,200 Man 3660 03:57:36,690 --> 03:57:37,680 in the middle 3661 03:57:49,980 --> 03:57:50,940 was with us.