1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,660 The facts with Adam curry for September 5 2020. This is 2 00:00:06,660 --> 00:00:10,890 episode number 48. And there he is once again the man with the 3 00:00:10,890 --> 00:00:14,340 golden voice. Mo facts Mo Mo how're you doing? 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,800 I'm doing good Adam, how about yourself? 5 00:00:16,980 --> 00:00:21,450 Well, it's been a crazy two weeks. First of all, I'm glad 6 00:00:21,450 --> 00:00:24,510 we're back together. We skipped an entire week you were down the 7 00:00:24,510 --> 00:00:30,450 rabbit hole, which we'll get to in a moment. But I think Monday 8 00:00:30,450 --> 00:00:36,240 or Tuesday, my interview with Joe Rogan comes out. And either 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,840 I'm gonna sound like the biggest nut job in the world. Or maybe 10 00:00:39,870 --> 00:00:44,250 maybe I got to spit some more facts. We'll find out. There was 11 00:00:44,250 --> 00:00:49,650 a lot of substances involved. But yeah, it was. It was a lot 12 00:00:49,650 --> 00:00:50,070 of fun. 13 00:00:51,210 --> 00:00:54,720 I can't wait to hear I'm waiting like everybody else for it to 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,170 drop. 15 00:00:58,350 --> 00:01:01,380 I can give you I can tell you what's one thing that did happen 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,410 is I'm like well, you know me and my buddy Momo facts. You 17 00:01:04,410 --> 00:01:06,300 know, we're in he says, Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a 18 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:10,200 minute. Your friend's name is really that I said? Yeah. Mo, 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,820 which is Mo what I said mo Maurice Mo. Mo fax. That's his 20 00:01:14,820 --> 00:01:26,520 name. I said, this m o efactz.com. Plug life, live in 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,710 the big plug life. So we'll see. And based on I think our 22 00:01:31,710 --> 00:01:36,030 producers who support this show, who of course, since we've been 23 00:01:36,030 --> 00:01:38,550 gone for two weeks will be thanking them in two different 24 00:01:38,550 --> 00:01:43,230 segments, because that's the support has been phenomenal. I 25 00:01:43,230 --> 00:01:48,600 got a DM this morning from Hotep. Jesus. And he says, yeah, 26 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,020 he said, You need to come on the show. Can you can you come I 27 00:01:52,020 --> 00:01:57,810 think September 25. And I said, Oh, yeah, sure. And I sent him a 28 00:01:57,810 --> 00:02:03,240 link to mo fox.com says, oh, yeah, he says, What did you say? 29 00:02:03,930 --> 00:02:06,330 I don't want to misquote him. But I think was something like 30 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,840 dope. I've heard good things about it. So he said he was 31 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:10,320 gonna listen 32 00:02:10,920 --> 00:02:15,750 about that. Interesting. Yeah, very interesting. Yeah. So great 33 00:02:15,750 --> 00:02:17,010 Twitter for you, man. Great. 34 00:02:19,770 --> 00:02:24,450 Very Gray, very, very gray. One more thing before we get started 35 00:02:24,450 --> 00:02:29,580 with the with the stuff for today. No one gender meetups.com 36 00:02:29,580 --> 00:02:33,780 is where producers of the no agenda show organized meeting up 37 00:02:33,870 --> 00:02:36,960 together. And they're starting to combine meetups because 38 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,590 there's such a heavy crossover between the no agenda tribe and 39 00:02:40,590 --> 00:02:45,090 the MO facts tribe. In so many different aspects. And 40 00:02:45,540 --> 00:02:50,670 apparently there was the second mo agenda meet up. And I believe 41 00:02:50,670 --> 00:02:52,170 this is from Michigan. 42 00:02:52,380 --> 00:02:55,950 Hey, Adam and Mo. We got a dozen people here in Michigan 43 00:02:55,950 --> 00:02:59,250 celebrating our second mo facts meet up after the Chick fil A 44 00:02:59,250 --> 00:03:04,590 one in February. Tonight was Popeyes. We love them both. And 45 00:03:04,590 --> 00:03:15,900 we just wanted to remind everybody that the truth is that 46 00:03:16,980 --> 00:03:21,720 it's nice man. Well, I guess you can organize a mo facts or mo 47 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,430 agenda meetup. No agenda meetups.com. Very cool. Thank 48 00:03:26,430 --> 00:03:28,710 you so much, guys. All right. Well, what are we doing? What 49 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:29,520 else we have here? 50 00:03:31,170 --> 00:03:34,920 Well, wait a minute. I have a couple of things on my list. I 51 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,640 gotta get out there before we get into it. Okay. And it's 52 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,620 cause for celebration. Oh, well. Brett 53 00:03:51,270 --> 00:03:54,240 what are we doing? What are we doing? Well, I'm blowing the 54 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,650 horns what's going on? 55 00:03:56,670 --> 00:04:00,540 Happy birthday to two of my favorite people. One being you 56 00:04:02,190 --> 00:04:03,930 just celebrated a birthday. Yes, 57 00:04:03,930 --> 00:04:04,710 I did September 58 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:12,030 and the other one is to only fan uncle Richard. Birthday on the 59 00:04:12,030 --> 00:04:12,480 floor. 60 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:17,790 Another fine Virgo man like myself very nice. Alright, Uncle 61 00:04:17,790 --> 00:04:21,600 Richard. Cool. Very cool. Oh, you know what that means? That 62 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,210 you know what this has started? Well, you start with this before 63 00:04:24,210 --> 00:04:29,850 you know it. We've got a birthday list. It's the funniest 64 00:04:29,850 --> 00:04:33,690 thing that we could we could 65 00:04:34,770 --> 00:04:39,270 the best gift I could think to give uncle Richard I only fan is 66 00:04:39,270 --> 00:04:41,400 for you to spin that wheel. Oh, right. 67 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,800 For uncle Richard. We are going to do the one thing that only 68 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,720 read the manners. It's the thing that we need to do every single 69 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,180 show because what is the topic for today? Nobody knows. But 70 00:04:48,180 --> 00:04:51,810 when we hit that we'll have topics round and round and goes 71 00:04:51,810 --> 00:04:55,230 we find out what we're going to talk about today. Maybe Moe 72 00:04:55,230 --> 00:04:59,970 knows we'll find out the topic for Moe facts with Adam curry 48 73 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,640 is black on black crime? Okay, it's something like for today's 74 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,290 topic Nice. All 75 00:05:07,290 --> 00:05:09,750 right. Okay, everybody take cover. 76 00:05:10,469 --> 00:05:13,169 Deep breath, this will be this thing. Yeah. 77 00:05:13,710 --> 00:05:17,790 This is why it took two weeks. Yeah, it literally took two 78 00:05:17,790 --> 00:05:25,140 weeks. Ah, up until the last minute rearranging clips, take 79 00:05:25,140 --> 00:05:30,480 clips out. Because you as you know, this is the third row, and 80 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,570 racial slash politics conversation. 81 00:05:33,780 --> 00:05:38,370 And it's something that to be on? Well, I really of course, I 82 00:05:38,370 --> 00:05:40,740 look forward to episodes like this because this is where I get 83 00:05:40,740 --> 00:05:46,770 to learn an incredible amount. But just from a white American 84 00:05:46,770 --> 00:05:51,600 perspective, I you know, what is often said is, you know, in as 85 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,350 it pertains to some news report, well, nobody talks about 50 86 00:05:55,350 --> 00:05:58,020 people in Chicago, black on white crime, and how to do the 87 00:05:58,020 --> 00:06:00,480 voice. Was that pretty good? And I've done it myself. 88 00:06:02,610 --> 00:06:05,430 The exact statement is, what about Chicago? 89 00:06:05,820 --> 00:06:07,800 What about black on black crime? Chicago? 90 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,790 Yeah. And yeah, of course. And can I ask you right off the bat, 91 00:06:12,090 --> 00:06:17,100 just since that's what we do. When you hear someone say, How 92 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:20,190 would someone like me say that? Or what about Chicago? Does that 93 00:06:20,220 --> 00:06:22,350 does that trigger anything? Do you think? Is it something that 94 00:06:22,350 --> 00:06:23,580 comes up in your mind when you hear 95 00:06:23,580 --> 00:06:27,330 it, it can come across as a cop out? Because you don't want to 96 00:06:27,330 --> 00:06:31,530 talk about what the topic was on? Okay. And two, is a non 97 00:06:31,530 --> 00:06:36,330 starter is that put that on the list of non starters. If you're 98 00:06:36,330 --> 00:06:39,930 going to come at at the angle of counterbalancing, police 99 00:06:39,930 --> 00:06:43,440 violence, and you know, police, probably police brutality 100 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,370 counterbalancing with black on black crime, the two things need 101 00:06:47,370 --> 00:06:51,120 to be discussed in depth independently of each other. 102 00:06:51,150 --> 00:06:55,440 They're both a problem, one being larger than the other. And 103 00:06:55,620 --> 00:06:58,290 surprise, surprise it being black on black crime is the 104 00:06:58,290 --> 00:07:02,880 bigger problem, by far, but yeah, but I will say this, 105 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:08,010 oftentimes, when it's brought up is brought up disingenuously and 106 00:07:08,010 --> 00:07:11,070 to deflect from a conversation somebody really doesn't want to 107 00:07:11,070 --> 00:07:15,360 have on the topic that's brought up. Well, the way that yeah, the 108 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,140 way the way that I might have used it in the past would be 109 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:22,560 it's interesting. You say that, yeah, in a way to deflect 110 00:07:24,180 --> 00:07:26,040 homeless, I'm just trying to collect my thought. Now, that's 111 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,200 interesting, because it would probably be someone saying, 112 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,460 Well, you know, this, this, there's the Yeah, I think you're 113 00:07:32,460 --> 00:07:36,630 right, it would be white cops killing blacks. And then it 114 00:07:36,630 --> 00:07:39,750 would be well, there's only been nine this year. And then oh, 115 00:07:39,750 --> 00:07:42,810 what about Chicago? Yeah, okay. It's a deflection because I 116 00:07:42,810 --> 00:07:47,520 think that the, the, there's no willingness to actually discuss, 117 00:07:47,550 --> 00:07:50,640 I think it's okay, here we go. From my perspective, because 118 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,040 there never seems to be a willingness to discuss the 119 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,990 actual numbers, just as a statistic because the claim from 120 00:07:59,430 --> 00:08:06,030 white cops killing black men is disproportionate to black on 121 00:08:06,030 --> 00:08:09,450 black. But that conversation you'll usually go through well, 122 00:08:09,660 --> 00:08:13,110 they only represent this portion of the population. So it 123 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:16,020 shouldn't be that but they represent 80% I mean, it's all 124 00:08:16,020 --> 00:08:16,890 these fucking Now me, 125 00:08:16,890 --> 00:08:21,150 I promise that Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Go to the FBI crime 126 00:08:21,150 --> 00:08:26,370 stats. So we're not gonna use any FBI crime stats, and you 127 00:08:26,370 --> 00:08:31,410 asked me a question I want to answer when why here? What about 128 00:08:31,410 --> 00:08:34,860 black on black crime? What about Chicago? Yeah, we know what the 129 00:08:34,860 --> 00:08:38,490 facts law the MO facts law or rule that every racial 130 00:08:38,490 --> 00:08:41,820 conversation eventually devolves to Chicago 131 00:08:43,260 --> 00:08:46,200 it's like Hitler on on white forums. Everything in black 132 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,120 forums goes to Chicago. I gotcha. 133 00:08:48,390 --> 00:08:54,660 Chicago, but when I hear that is the way I could hear it, but I'm 134 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,590 I dissect things myself personally, but the way I could 135 00:08:58,590 --> 00:09:05,100 hear it is What's one more black dead black guy? Me? Doesn't, you 136 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:07,350 know, What's one more? So 137 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,850 I get it. I get like Chicago, and then what was it nine more? 138 00:09:12,420 --> 00:09:14,430 Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah. All right. 139 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,330 Let's good. So that's why we did it. This is what this is why we 140 00:09:18,330 --> 00:09:22,920 have these conversations so we can demystify and really get to 141 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,660 the root of the problem. Yeah. And it's multiple problems with 142 00:09:27,660 --> 00:09:31,950 this topic. But since we brought up the mecca of black on black 143 00:09:31,950 --> 00:09:36,030 crime as the media will have it, let's get right to fighting to 144 00:09:36,030 --> 00:09:37,740 stop Chicago's gang killings. 145 00:09:39,330 --> 00:09:42,480 Chicago making international headlines this morning after a 146 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,060 violent and bloody Fourth of July. We're more 147 00:09:45,060 --> 00:09:48,750 than 100 people were shot since Friday, 14 of them are datings 148 00:09:48,750 --> 00:09:51,870 and violent crime have skyrocketed in Chicago for 149 00:09:51,870 --> 00:09:55,650 decades, Chicago has struggled to shake off its reputation for 150 00:09:55,650 --> 00:09:59,970 gun violence, while 2014 saw the murder rate fall to its low 151 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,420 Worst in more than 40 years, since then there's been a 152 00:10:03,420 --> 00:10:10,020 worrying increase. In 2016 762 people were killed in a city the 153 00:10:10,020 --> 00:10:16,890 most since 1996. On the campaign trail, Donald Trump repeatedly 154 00:10:16,890 --> 00:10:19,230 lambasted the city, Chicago, what the 155 00:10:19,230 --> 00:10:20,940 hell is going on in Chicago. 156 00:10:21,690 --> 00:10:24,840 And in June, he announced a federal task force would be sent 157 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,550 to assist Chicago police. I've come to Chicago to spend time 158 00:10:29,550 --> 00:10:33,210 with grassroots organizers who work in some of the city's most 159 00:10:33,210 --> 00:10:36,450 dangerous neighborhoods, trying to stop the violence. 160 00:10:37,350 --> 00:10:40,770 Okay, we are indeed at ground zero. So this 161 00:10:40,770 --> 00:10:44,370 is Adam gabot, from The Guardian. And a couple of points 162 00:10:44,370 --> 00:10:49,410 I want to make. His statement was in 2014, the murder rate had 163 00:10:49,410 --> 00:10:53,310 fallen into his lowest level in 40 years. So we ought to put 164 00:10:53,310 --> 00:10:57,240 these like, we had to put these things in perspective in Chicago 165 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,280 violence, a problem, of course, is a huge problem compared to 166 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:07,740 the 80s and 90s. Or even if you go back 40 years, not at all. 167 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,320 New York, Chicago, DC used to have, you know, almost doubled 168 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,250 the violence that they have now. Well, it's trending back up. But 169 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,590 we have to put these numbers into perspective. 170 00:11:20,070 --> 00:11:23,160 Why do you think the shooting and the murder rate has gone up 171 00:11:23,250 --> 00:11:24,510 over the past two years? 172 00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:29,850 There's no structure. See, it used to be organizations will 173 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,130 few guys at the top. They called everything sanctioning or 174 00:11:35,130 --> 00:11:40,140 whatever. But nowadays, you got cliques whose and they might all 175 00:11:40,590 --> 00:11:42,960 know each other grew up together and everything. But now they 176 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,560 just you know, they just going with a warrant and trying to 177 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,250 make a name for itself. And communities they come up in and 178 00:11:50,250 --> 00:11:55,170 they can't get no jobs to do. So they just wireless. You know, 179 00:11:55,170 --> 00:11:58,140 Sam. Yeah. 180 00:11:59,820 --> 00:12:03,300 So this is us for on the outreach outreach outreach 181 00:12:03,300 --> 00:12:08,790 worker from ceasefire. He just speak into the really 182 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:15,300 decentralization of these gang structures. And that's what's 183 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:18,000 really causing the uptick that you're seeing now. 184 00:12:18,510 --> 00:12:20,520 What do you what do you mean the decentralization? Can you 185 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,150 explain that? 186 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,710 Well, before it used to be like, militaristic, where you had no 187 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,360 commander in chief generals, lieutenants, that kind of thing, 188 00:12:30,390 --> 00:12:35,370 and it was very organized, structured. Now it's more of 189 00:12:36,090 --> 00:12:39,930 there is no rank. Oh, it's more I mean, their rank still there. 190 00:12:39,930 --> 00:12:41,130 But it's, it's more like 191 00:12:41,130 --> 00:12:42,720 a flat flat hierarchy now. 192 00:12:43,860 --> 00:12:47,700 Or a feudal, feudal system, a system where you have, yeah, 193 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:52,770 well, you have these pockets of power. And before you had to 194 00:12:52,770 --> 00:12:56,760 earn your way up now, it's like, I'm willing to take you out now. 195 00:12:56,790 --> 00:13:01,440 1415 years old, I want my respect now. Which we had the 196 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,230 look at maybe this is a microcosm of the breakdown in 197 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:09,300 the home. And no leadership, no patriarchy in the homes, there 198 00:13:09,300 --> 00:13:09,750 was no 199 00:13:09,750 --> 00:13:12,990 one paid. Not even understanding of what of what a hierarchy or 200 00:13:12,990 --> 00:13:15,660 patriarchy is anymore, perhaps. Right. 201 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,600 And it's dissolved in the streets. Yeah, you know, I mean, 202 00:13:18,660 --> 00:13:21,930 the men are here because sad to say the, the male lead 203 00:13:21,930 --> 00:13:26,160 structure, even in street gangs, is not there. And I'm gonna say 204 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,330 something now, I need to say it now. I am not anti organized 205 00:13:30,330 --> 00:13:38,520 crime. Because I am not a I'm a person that, you know, it's not 206 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,770 naive. kromm is going to exist in a society and civilization. I 207 00:13:43,770 --> 00:13:47,220 think when you have organized crime, and when it's done 208 00:13:47,220 --> 00:13:53,760 properly, it keeps from it affecting this civilians. You 209 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,030 don't get random people shot on the street, you don't get 210 00:13:57,030 --> 00:14:00,450 children scared to walk up and down the street. Because in 211 00:14:00,450 --> 00:14:02,820 every in every society, and this, this goes back to the 212 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:06,360 black on black crime thing. In every society, there's crime. In 213 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,220 every society, there's organized crime, but you don't see dead 214 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:14,880 children of other ethnicities and their communities and on 215 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,800 their streets, like you do see in black and more, and probably 216 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,950 Brown as well, but not as distant as black. Okay, so I 217 00:14:22,950 --> 00:14:23,520 just want to lay that 218 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,690 Yeah. So in this case, you referring specifically, to inner 219 00:14:27,690 --> 00:14:32,220 city to black gangs, that being organized crime because we can't 220 00:14:32,220 --> 00:14:34,980 be against organized crime, otherwise, all politicians would 221 00:14:34,980 --> 00:14:38,280 have to go because that's the biggest criminal organization 222 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:43,140 there is. But I if I understand what you're saying, because the 223 00:14:43,140 --> 00:14:47,340 lack of organized crime in these gangs is actually much worse 224 00:14:47,370 --> 00:14:50,520 than it would have to be if it was if there was a leadership 225 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,100 structure and there was actually a leader that you could talk to 226 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:55,830 and we could have leaders are figuring stuff out You mean like 227 00:14:55,830 --> 00:14:56,250 that? 228 00:14:56,459 --> 00:15:01,139 Exactly. And I'm not even pro I'm not pro organized crime. I 229 00:15:01,139 --> 00:15:08,279 know it's a necessary evil. Because crime vise alcohol not 230 00:15:08,279 --> 00:15:11,729 not now, but even in you know, in early parts of America, 231 00:15:11,759 --> 00:15:17,309 alcohol, gambling, prostitution, these things are realities. So 232 00:15:17,309 --> 00:15:22,229 it's are you going to have structure to that reality or no, 233 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:25,019 because there's going to exist. Right. And I think what we're 234 00:15:25,019 --> 00:15:29,129 seeing now in this modern day, quote unquote, black community 235 00:15:29,129 --> 00:15:33,899 and black on black crime, is the lack the decentralization is 236 00:15:33,899 --> 00:15:37,559 kind of like when you take out Osama bin Laden or host Saddam 237 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:41,429 Hussein. Now you have eight warlords. Yeah, 238 00:15:42,359 --> 00:15:46,109 exactly. A vacuum is filled up how back on? Yeah, gotcha. Okay. 239 00:15:46,409 --> 00:15:46,829 Clear. 240 00:15:47,339 --> 00:15:53,789 That's what you're seeing now. So that's where we're at. So 241 00:15:53,789 --> 00:15:58,499 next, we have Cory Brooks, and he's the executive director of 242 00:15:58,499 --> 00:16:02,609 Project hood. Another organization is trying to help 243 00:16:02,609 --> 00:16:03,449 out Chicago. 244 00:16:03,689 --> 00:16:06,749 Well, people I spoke to really want is more funding for 245 00:16:06,749 --> 00:16:10,919 community projects. But getting that money can be difficult. 246 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:15,389 Project hood is a nonprofit funded by donations. It gives 247 00:16:15,389 --> 00:16:19,619 hands on training in professions like carpentry and business, to 248 00:16:19,619 --> 00:16:22,949 young people who have been caught up in gang life and want 249 00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:26,849 a way out. Trump has spoken about Chicago in pretty strong 250 00:16:26,849 --> 00:16:31,859 terms, carnage in a city violence, like Does he have a 251 00:16:31,859 --> 00:16:35,129 point when he talks about needing to send in the feds? 252 00:16:35,190 --> 00:16:39,030 Absolutely not. The feds are not what we need. Job creation is 253 00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:41,070 what we need. That's the reason why we're building this 254 00:16:41,070 --> 00:16:44,850 facility. We don't want you to come and give us your government 255 00:16:44,850 --> 00:16:47,640 paycheck or your government food stamps. No, we want to create 256 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,210 people that want jobs and help people get jobs. That's what 257 00:16:51,210 --> 00:16:54,180 sustains people. And that's what creates family. And if we can 258 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:57,300 get a president to do that, I believe that the direction of 259 00:16:57,300 --> 00:16:59,100 our communities change drastically. 260 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,680 So that was interesting, because I don't think he answered the 261 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,440 question. I understand his answer, of course, but the the 262 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,220 question was bringing more Feds which I think made more police 263 00:17:08,220 --> 00:17:11,070 officers and the guy said, no, no, no, we need jobs and stuff 264 00:17:11,070 --> 00:17:13,620 that Trump is giving us. I think that's what he was saying. 265 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,900 And and and Mr. Adam on Gab, it was very deceptive in the way he 266 00:17:18,900 --> 00:17:22,560 conflate it. Two questions. One was the Trump's rhetoric 267 00:17:22,590 --> 00:17:27,060 rhetoric, about you know, Carnage and violence. And though 268 00:17:27,060 --> 00:17:29,670 things are nature and extreme, and then he conflates it with 269 00:17:29,670 --> 00:17:33,090 his statement about bringing in the Fed. Exactly. So it's a very 270 00:17:33,090 --> 00:17:36,630 tricky question, if you listen to how x it, um, well, it's 271 00:17:36,629 --> 00:17:40,259 from the BBC. We know the Brits are racist moments and nothing, 272 00:17:40,289 --> 00:17:41,069 of course, 273 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,760 and probably wants to 274 00:17:46,110 --> 00:17:47,640 do a course on the last show. 275 00:17:48,900 --> 00:17:52,500 But if you look at it, the question, of course, he agrees 276 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:54,960 that there's carnage on the streets and his violence or he 277 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:00,120 wouldn't be willing to get these projects. Right. Oh, but I do 278 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:04,230 agree bringing in affairs is not the right is not the right 279 00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:09,180 solution to the problem, bringing in federal aid, federal 280 00:18:09,180 --> 00:18:13,770 programs, job programs, or reinstating family, um, these 281 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:19,140 kinds of things what he was saying, but there is a county 282 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:22,500 commissioner name Richard Boykins that has another 283 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:24,960 solution for Cook County, far too 284 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,220 common in Chicago police investigating a shooting and 285 00:18:29,220 --> 00:18:32,730 heavily armed United Nations peacekeepers operating in some 286 00:18:32,730 --> 00:18:36,330 of the most dangerous corners of the earth. Now there's a push to 287 00:18:36,330 --> 00:18:39,570 bring them here. Good evening. I'm Rob Johnson. And I'm Erica 288 00:18:39,570 --> 00:18:42,120 Sargent. A Cook County commissioner wants to get the 289 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:45,690 peacekeepers to Chicago to battle our violence problem, but 290 00:18:45,690 --> 00:18:48,840 it would be an unusual move. Consider this from a un 291 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,470 promotional video. Peacekeepers often operate in hostile 292 00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:56,880 environments where others cannot or will not go. CBS two 293 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,700 political reporter Derek Blakely picks up our story. 294 00:19:00,930 --> 00:19:04,050 They've helped stop the fighting in war torn hotspots across the 295 00:19:04,050 --> 00:19:07,710 globe, from Syria to Sierra Leone. Now well Cook County 296 00:19:07,710 --> 00:19:11,730 Commissioner is appealing for UN peacekeepers in Chicago's crime 297 00:19:11,730 --> 00:19:12,960 ridden neighborhoods. 298 00:19:12,990 --> 00:19:16,980 I know that there are those who say that this is an admission 299 00:19:16,980 --> 00:19:20,460 that we can't protect the people in the city but quite frankly, 300 00:19:20,550 --> 00:19:22,050 we haven't protected them. 301 00:19:22,110 --> 00:19:25,260 But one West Side Alderman whose Ward is plagued by violence 302 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,540 rejects the military analogy. 303 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:32,310 This is not war. I mean, we may have some daunting statistics. 304 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,880 But again, military intervention is not the answer. 305 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:39,360 Alderman Ervin says it's an economic intervention, not a 306 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:42,600 military one that's needed to stop Chicago's violence. 307 00:19:43,170 --> 00:19:43,830 Here's a 308 00:19:45,450 --> 00:19:48,000 I remember this story and I remember laughing about it like 309 00:19:48,030 --> 00:19:51,360 what the hell is this? But now actually, in context of what you 310 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:55,440 said at the beginning of the show. If the numbers were twice 311 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:01,470 as bad in the 70s 80s, and they came down On in the mid 80s 90s, 312 00:20:01,470 --> 00:20:06,540 yeah. So they've come down and you know, by by by half, and now 313 00:20:06,540 --> 00:20:09,210 they're they're trending up or that, of course, they're they're 314 00:20:09,210 --> 00:20:13,470 never good. What did they do is my question, what were they 315 00:20:13,470 --> 00:20:16,680 doing previously that seemed to be working? Was that is there 316 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,530 something that we can point to? It was something that if the 317 00:20:19,530 --> 00:20:22,800 Giuliani tactics, well, that was pretty much Well, that was 318 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,560 Bratton that was the chief of police and he came in and 319 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,210 cracked heads as far as I know. 320 00:20:28,980 --> 00:20:34,080 Right? Um, we're not going to say that. The crime bill didn't 321 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,700 clean up the streets, because of course, we got millions. Julio 322 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,470 Giuliani and Bratton was before the crime bill. That was no what 323 00:20:43,470 --> 00:20:43,530 I'm 324 00:20:43,530 --> 00:20:48,450 saying is that the the change from the rehabilitation because 325 00:20:48,450 --> 00:20:52,230 even Biden's rhetoric started before the crown be right. It 326 00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:57,420 was the really with that, I think it was, ah, what is this, 327 00:20:57,449 --> 00:20:59,879 but I'm just saying Manhattan Manhattan had changed 328 00:20:59,879 --> 00:21:06,299 significantly. By 1989 1990. It was it was already really 329 00:21:06,299 --> 00:21:07,739 changed way before the 330 00:21:08,639 --> 00:21:12,779 that was when a Democrat started saying we're past rehabilitate 331 00:21:12,809 --> 00:21:15,839 Rockefeller, I believe it was, they said we're past 332 00:21:15,869 --> 00:21:20,159 rehabilitation. The Democrats got really strong on crime that 333 00:21:20,159 --> 00:21:24,539 started in their really early to mid 80s. And then it just worked 334 00:21:24,539 --> 00:21:28,529 his way up to the crime bill, but the mentality was lock of 335 00:21:28,529 --> 00:21:31,229 everybody and that's what the congressional congressional 336 00:21:31,229 --> 00:21:35,039 black caucus was calling for. And honestly, that's what the 337 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:38,429 citizens were calling for was to clean up our streets. Now 338 00:21:38,579 --> 00:21:40,889 cleaning up our streets that mean lock up everybody in the 339 00:21:40,889 --> 00:21:44,549 neighborhood either. Bringing the UN peacekeepers, midwives, 340 00:21:44,700 --> 00:21:47,820 UN peacekeepers is a little bit overblown. 341 00:21:49,530 --> 00:21:52,920 And I'm glad you got to that point because if people really 342 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,680 back up here and take a step back and look what we're seeing 343 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,070 here, we're having this super predator narrative. 344 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,000 Re volatile yummy coming back. 345 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:08,220 It's coming right back. And it weren't I mean, looking at who 346 00:22:08,220 --> 00:22:10,680 was running for office. I mean, to be honest, 347 00:22:12,060 --> 00:22:15,960 that is a deja vu isn't it? Yeah. Thank you. So it gets it's 348 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,200 weird because I wanted to I texted you who wasn't in who 349 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,410 wasn't in the in the in the in the big article? Was it yummy? 350 00:22:22,410 --> 00:22:24,840 Yo could remember little yummy, because I wanted to bring it up 351 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,860 on Joe to explain how the math models kind of like the climate 352 00:22:28,860 --> 00:22:33,390 change, or God forbid the Coronavirus models had 353 00:22:33,390 --> 00:22:37,410 miscalculated the the danger of the quote unquote, super 354 00:22:37,410 --> 00:22:40,980 predator. But then it just it was taken for science what 355 00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:44,610 science is is right, and then you know, we're still living 356 00:22:44,610 --> 00:22:47,400 with the crap from today. Maybe he's trying to Yeah, maybe it's 357 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,100 just a redo. You know, they figured all that shit out. We 358 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:50,910 should do it again. 359 00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:58,230 Yeah, and this is not only limited to Chicago, or more, I 360 00:22:58,230 --> 00:23:02,850 will talk about black on black crime. This is a problem in any 361 00:23:02,850 --> 00:23:07,440 pocket in America that has high, so called quote unquote black 362 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,210 populations, as we hear in black on black crime part 1.1. 363 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,630 Black on Black crime, you can find it in almost any major city 364 00:23:15,630 --> 00:23:19,260 like Chicago, New York or LA but Chattanooga is nowhere near the 365 00:23:19,260 --> 00:23:22,770 size. Nor has the population of those cities get violent crimes 366 00:23:22,770 --> 00:23:25,290 by African Americans against each other in Chattanooga. It's 367 00:23:25,290 --> 00:23:28,950 just as bad. In part one of his special report, Eric Coveney 368 00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:31,860 takes a deep look into black on black crime and its effect on 369 00:23:31,860 --> 00:23:34,650 the African American community. He joins us live in the studio 370 00:23:34,650 --> 00:23:35,310 to explain 371 00:23:35,340 --> 00:23:38,580 Eric Wallace journalist, it's our job to report what's 372 00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:41,910 happening in our community. And unfortunately, we find ourselves 373 00:23:41,910 --> 00:23:45,150 covering black on black violence almost every other day. Now, 374 00:23:45,150 --> 00:23:48,030 before we begin, we you need to know that in this report you're 375 00:23:48,030 --> 00:23:51,060 about we're about to show you. It is very raw and emotional 376 00:23:51,060 --> 00:23:55,680 with language that some viewers may find offensive trigger 377 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:01,200 warning. crime scenes like this one play out almost every week 378 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,490 in Chattanooga. And the story is usually the same disagreement 379 00:24:05,490 --> 00:24:08,700 between two black men or a group of African Americans that leads 380 00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:14,460 to violence. Some of the victims live. Others die. No one knows 381 00:24:14,460 --> 00:24:17,880 this better than Celeste woods. You see, nine years ago her 382 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,490 son's mom was shot to death in this East Chattanooga 383 00:24:20,490 --> 00:24:23,880 neighborhood. She says she'll never forget that horrible 384 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,250 night. And the next thing I know I was getting a phone 385 00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:30,990 call and say the mind has been shot. And could you calm. And 386 00:24:30,990 --> 00:24:35,280 this is the area that I came here. And when that came that he 387 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,760 was voc was taped around and he was laying facedown in history. 388 00:24:39,450 --> 00:24:43,320 To add insult to injury. Demand died on Martin Luther King Jr. 389 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:43,560 Day. 390 00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:44,700 That day most 391 00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:47,730 Americans celebrate a man who stood for non violence. 392 00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:51,480 Right well before you deconstructed for us. What 393 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,740 station did this what outfit did this? This package w 394 00:24:55,740 --> 00:25:01,140 d e f news 12 Chattanooga source for local news. as local quick 395 00:25:01,170 --> 00:25:02,130 and quick to the point. 396 00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:09,330 incredibly disgusting to me. The way they start off was saying, 397 00:25:09,390 --> 00:25:13,710 okay, it seriously, this was a Mind Control thing in what you 398 00:25:13,710 --> 00:25:16,320 would call trauma based entertainment as far as I'm 399 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:22,530 concerned, the music track that went from some recognizable 400 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,340 song. What song was that was the track I think I recognize it's 401 00:25:26,340 --> 00:25:28,080 not like some crazy old track 402 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,780 No. Typical quote unquote gangster music. 403 00:25:34,050 --> 00:25:35,490 Exactly. Exactly. 404 00:25:35,610 --> 00:25:37,260 It doesn't matter. Yeah, it sounds 405 00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:42,750 crazy. But yeah, and then we went into some mama comes in and 406 00:25:43,020 --> 00:25:46,470 holy crap that was mind control. That's all I wanted to say. It 407 00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:48,120 was that was quite disgusting. 408 00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:52,170 Yeah, we had a sad course. I mean, cost record the everybody 409 00:25:52,170 --> 00:25:54,990 knows that knows music and evoke emotion course. 410 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,390 If you were to say string, it wasn't no 411 00:25:58,470 --> 00:26:00,270 sad black mama on TV. 412 00:26:00,300 --> 00:26:03,750 It wasn't news, that's for sure. That was that was programming. 413 00:26:04,290 --> 00:26:08,100 But if I said to you, Chattanooga, you wouldn't say to 414 00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:09,270 me black on black crime? 415 00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:12,960 I mean, so I say pardon my means? Is that the cat Machida 416 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,030 on your shoe? Yeah, that's what I'm sorry. 417 00:26:19,050 --> 00:26:25,590 So this lets you know that it's widespread. Yeah. Even not as 418 00:26:25,770 --> 00:26:29,160 they want to make it like it's this urban problem. No, it's 419 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,160 widespread. And that lets you know, wherever a shared 420 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,660 mentality, or what you want to call culture, is that we have 421 00:26:36,660 --> 00:26:41,010 this saints this systemic problem. So with that said, we 422 00:26:41,010 --> 00:26:42,330 can get into 1.2. 423 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,480 But shooting death of her son was the result of an earlier 424 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,230 altercation with this man, Alex Smith, whom police later 425 00:26:49,230 --> 00:26:52,620 arrested and charged with murder. Current gang task force 426 00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:55,170 coordinator, Boyd Patterson prosecuted Smith, 427 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,400 that particular case ended with a plea of guilty to manslaughter 428 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,390 and a sentencing hearing. Well, that's what happened. He could 429 00:27:03,390 --> 00:27:08,010 have faced, it was between six and 10 years. But after the 430 00:27:08,010 --> 00:27:09,960 sentencing hearing, he was given six years. 431 00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:14,040 Authorities say much of the violence playing out is gang 432 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,900 related. According to a recent study, blacks make up 89% of the 433 00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:22,200 gangs in Chattanooga, followed by white that 10 and a half 434 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,090 percent, and the number of gang related crimes rose from 127 in 435 00:27:27,090 --> 00:27:30,630 2007 to 520 11. 436 00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:34,500 I want to get some terms straight with you. What is the 437 00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:39,810 difference between urban and inner city? Is there a 438 00:27:39,810 --> 00:27:42,750 difference? Because what in the Chattanooga is that the 439 00:27:42,750 --> 00:27:45,600 Chattanooga inner city? Urban means black? 440 00:27:46,050 --> 00:27:49,680 Whenever you hear urban, that's black. Inner City, which is 441 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,450 great geographical of this is the inner city right? Now they 442 00:27:54,450 --> 00:27:58,980 can be used synonymously I mean, incorrectly, but when you hear 443 00:27:59,010 --> 00:28:05,310 urban, that's targeted towards black people. Okay. So that 444 00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:07,860 makes sense. It's just a geographical you say it's no, 445 00:28:07,890 --> 00:28:11,400 you can say inner city. And that means it's downtown. Right. But, 446 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,060 but this is what's happening in Chattanooga. Is that happening 447 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,560 in the inner city? 448 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,620 I would guess so. I don't know how you can fly. Because when 449 00:28:22,620 --> 00:28:25,080 they say urban, they mean black even though Chattanooga is not 450 00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:31,230 urban. is right. Okay, so it's a tricky word. It's like oh, yeah, 451 00:28:31,230 --> 00:28:36,120 over there. Over there with a black sorry, is synonymous with 452 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,640 ghetto. You really get 453 00:28:39,270 --> 00:28:42,360 this word needs to be outlawed because it has too many stupid 454 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,500 meanings. I mean, it used to be a music style. It used to be 455 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:49,170 just a music sort. That's what it was urban baby. Well, 456 00:28:49,230 --> 00:28:53,940 we'll slow down curry. No, no, no, God was slow down. We're 457 00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:55,680 getting married. Sorry, man. I'm 458 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,580 sorry, man. 459 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,990 Listen, grasshopper is called Educate music. Yeah, yeah. 460 00:29:01,679 --> 00:29:09,569 Okay, so you have this guy gets six years. Yeah, six years now I 461 00:29:09,569 --> 00:29:13,619 can look at it one or two ways I can say least one black guy or 462 00:29:13,619 --> 00:29:16,649 girl got to be out six years. I mean, other than was dead or I 463 00:29:16,649 --> 00:29:20,729 can say wow, is a black life only work six years in jail. 464 00:29:22,139 --> 00:29:24,479 Yeah, do you know that this is where this this is how this gets 465 00:29:24,479 --> 00:29:30,869 tricky. But was this on the side of that's not what they said he 466 00:29:30,869 --> 00:29:33,509 played with a plea deal on manslaughter. But I want to 467 00:29:33,509 --> 00:29:37,889 raise my concern. I mean, raise our awareness our memory to you 468 00:29:37,889 --> 00:29:41,459 remember, Botham, John and the female cop shot him. And she got 469 00:29:41,459 --> 00:29:49,379 10 years. Everybody was all up in arms. Yeah. But this guy gets 470 00:29:49,379 --> 00:29:52,319 six years for killing another black man not a peep out 471 00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:55,619 anybody. And he was oh yeah, we got him six years. I mean, he 472 00:29:55,619 --> 00:29:58,589 was bold enough to go on the news and say yeah, we get we 473 00:29:58,619 --> 00:30:01,289 will let a guy off murder instead. was six years. And is 474 00:30:01,289 --> 00:30:05,429 that now I had to be cynical. Is that because you want murderers 475 00:30:05,429 --> 00:30:08,909 people to be making it back to the hood? while they're still in 476 00:30:08,909 --> 00:30:10,349 their prom? They're killing prom? 477 00:30:12,540 --> 00:30:15,780 Yeah, well, let's talk. Let's talk about it now. Well, again, 478 00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:20,220 a very, very interesting perspective. You said, wow, is a 479 00:30:20,220 --> 00:30:25,980 black life only worth six years? If I had heard that, while 480 00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:31,440 please. I mean, because I know a little bit about legal sentence, 481 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,630 saying was a plea deal? Yeah, no. I of course, did. I did not 482 00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:40,050 have that empathy. I did not think, wow, that did guy is only 483 00:30:40,050 --> 00:30:44,160 worth six years, I thought, and maybe the way it worked out the 484 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,950 altercation. I don't know what happened. I don't know the gun 485 00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:50,790 went off. I don't know. But I totally understand where you're 486 00:30:50,790 --> 00:30:51,900 coming from. Of course, 487 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,110 that's about the rest about the running. That's about the that's 488 00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:57,810 about the running average, about 10 years for black life. That 489 00:30:57,810 --> 00:31:03,150 was that's what, that's what you know. People know, in the 490 00:31:03,150 --> 00:31:06,180 streets. I know, I sound very counterfeit. 491 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,270 This is important. I know what you say. Now, this is important, 492 00:31:09,270 --> 00:31:12,210 because that's what's known. They know, oh, it's just 10 493 00:31:12,210 --> 00:31:15,150 years or if you're lucky, six years recycle, you're out is 494 00:31:15,150 --> 00:31:16,500 that what is that where that's going? 495 00:31:16,770 --> 00:31:20,580 Exactly. And if I'm running a white supremacist enterprise 496 00:31:20,580 --> 00:31:23,130 here, those are the kinds of people I want back on the 497 00:31:23,130 --> 00:31:23,730 streets. 498 00:31:24,510 --> 00:31:29,160 Yes, I see the problem. So in this case, the system is 499 00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:35,340 actually assists assisting this problem by perhaps even trying 500 00:31:35,340 --> 00:31:37,980 to be compassionate. It's a mindfuck 501 00:31:40,170 --> 00:31:43,590 as well, and that missing on the other side, say this guy got 502 00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:49,860 life in prison, whether it goes to labs. It's like you can have 503 00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:53,970 it either way you want it. Yeah, you can't. This is why this is 504 00:31:53,970 --> 00:31:57,870 such a slippery thing to wrestle. Because when you're you 505 00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:00,150 know, when you're throwing that ball, what about black on black 506 00:32:00,150 --> 00:32:05,280 crime, because, and I tried to work this show that I watch and 507 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,330 I have mixed feelings about it called first 48 and Amy, and I 508 00:32:09,330 --> 00:32:13,650 watch it often because it gives you a good cross section of 509 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,950 criminality, especially black on black crime then results in 510 00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:19,890 murder, what the basically the top on the premise of the show 511 00:32:19,890 --> 00:32:24,360 is the first 48 hours after homicide on the most critical 512 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,730 hours, right. And so they have a lot of inventory with black and 513 00:32:29,730 --> 00:32:32,790 black men being killed. So of course, that's going to be the 514 00:32:32,790 --> 00:32:36,750 majority of your cases. And it could go either way, you can 515 00:32:36,750 --> 00:32:39,270 have these cases where one guy gets six years for killing a 516 00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:43,560 black life or you could have one guy go rob another black guy, 517 00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:47,700 when another black guy in the car, and they killed the one 518 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:52,740 black guy and and other two guys get life without parole. So just 519 00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:56,640 because the second guy went with the, you know, this was tagging 520 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:57,150 alone. 521 00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:02,160 Yes. But so this, this is where it gets confusing, and I'm just 522 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,360 gonna say it I'm sure I'm jumping the gun. But a big part 523 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:13,260 of today's movement is to is to have police reform and to get a 524 00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:17,310 lot of people out of jail much quicker or not even go to jail 525 00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:23,400 at all for certain crimes up to incredible levels. Again, that 526 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,830 seems like it's compassionate but from what you're telling me 527 00:33:29,910 --> 00:33:33,990 it could have a completely adverse effect within the 528 00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:37,830 criminal circuit. It's like oh, this is great. We just recycle 529 00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:40,320 recycle recycle Thank you very much BLM. 530 00:33:42,540 --> 00:33:47,220 Right and if your goal is to have more okay, we are a no 531 00:33:47,220 --> 00:33:52,230 black ink and BLM business model piece off of black dead bodies 532 00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:58,200 in the street Yes. You need to total number and then you need 533 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,070 the highlight cases that the media runs which by cops Yeah, I 534 00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:07,530 want to say this one thing Notorious BIG had a song called 535 00:34:07,530 --> 00:34:10,950 you're nobody till somebody kills you. When a black person 536 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,880 killed a black person that's it. Nobody killer nobody. In the 537 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,060 media's eyes it's only when you're killed by a white person. 538 00:34:19,590 --> 00:34:23,310 Or you kill a white person then you've made okay man. Not Yeah, 539 00:34:23,310 --> 00:34:24,330 now you're somebody 540 00:34:24,810 --> 00:34:27,120 because yeah, you make it 541 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:31,920 it's very it's a very sick and what problem this is what I find 542 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:37,470 very problematic is people like Kamala Harris, Brock Obama, all 543 00:34:37,470 --> 00:34:41,760 these sorrows sister DBAs. Y'all don't understand the nuance that 544 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,790 needs to be had when you're saying Who do we lock up who 545 00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:50,010 don't we lock up? There is like, Oh, let everybody out. And then 546 00:34:50,010 --> 00:34:54,810 what happens? The community gets rid of what kromm And then you 547 00:34:54,810 --> 00:34:57,810 get the heavy hand of the law coming down. And then you get 548 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,990 another criminal justice system. I mean, Criminal Justice bill. 549 00:35:01,050 --> 00:35:06,660 Yeah. And it's indiscriminate. And now black people are being 550 00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:09,840 stopped to frisk again. So it's like, where's the nuance here, 551 00:35:09,930 --> 00:35:12,930 but nobody wants to nuance. Everybody wants dead black man 552 00:35:12,930 --> 00:35:16,380 in the street. Period. Well, not everybody on that on that level. 553 00:35:17,970 --> 00:35:21,600 Clarify. Oh, now I'm talking. When we speak. We don't talk 554 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,420 about humans. Of course, people here. Yeah, we talked about 555 00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:28,560 sanctions yesterday and dead black men work for everybody. It 556 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,400 works. It's this. It's the South for all wounds. 557 00:35:33,450 --> 00:35:36,060 It's a floor wax and a dessert topping. 558 00:35:36,779 --> 00:35:42,569 Exactly, because you can say, Look at this. If I want to say 559 00:35:42,569 --> 00:35:46,979 about trans men, or trans trans women, who does it black men, 560 00:35:47,369 --> 00:35:51,209 you know, it's always like you're gonna see I don't want to 561 00:35:51,299 --> 00:35:55,949 talk and show here too much. But the train roll? Yeah. Um, so in 562 00:35:55,949 --> 00:35:59,909 this next clip from the Chattanooga news piece, they 563 00:35:59,909 --> 00:36:04,709 talk to somebody actually in the life so we have 2.1 564 00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:08,970 When it comes to black on black crime and Chattanooga, gang task 565 00:36:08,970 --> 00:36:11,970 force Community Outreach Coordinator, Fred Houser has 566 00:36:11,970 --> 00:36:15,480 seen it all. Howser believes the problems unfolding on the 567 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,110 streets, don't start on the streets, but rather at home 568 00:36:19,110 --> 00:36:22,170 where offenders come from broken families with little or no 569 00:36:22,170 --> 00:36:22,860 guidance. 570 00:36:23,130 --> 00:36:27,240 People often point back to the family well, when I was coming 571 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,900 up, it was a primary family, the mother and father, but it was 572 00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:33,810 also everybody in the neighborhood, they represent the 573 00:36:33,810 --> 00:36:38,280 family that structure you know has has broken down 574 00:36:38,490 --> 00:36:42,090 and age does play a role that was confirmed by a man who 575 00:36:42,090 --> 00:36:45,450 admits to being gang associated for his protection and the 576 00:36:45,450 --> 00:36:48,750 protection of his family. We agreed to hide his face and 577 00:36:48,750 --> 00:36:49,890 alter his voice 578 00:36:49,950 --> 00:36:50,250 is 579 00:36:50,970 --> 00:36:54,480 a myth that you know, the older you get in the beat in the game, 580 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,480 you know, saying the more power respect you get, and I and about 581 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,340 that normal you know, saying it's about the legal who out 582 00:36:59,340 --> 00:37:01,860 here putting in the most work, you know, saying who will play 583 00:37:01,860 --> 00:37:06,090 him, you know, saying Nick, who got to Maine forced to be 1617 584 00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:10,500 years old, and between 30 and 40 year old girl Wow. 585 00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:14,490 So that goes to show you about the decentralization now spots? 586 00:37:14,730 --> 00:37:18,690 Not previously. That's all about a name. It's not about you know, 587 00:37:18,690 --> 00:37:22,350 it's no ranks, you know, you're gonna make it the general or, or 588 00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:26,070 you know, kappo or Lieutenant right, you make it up the ranks 589 00:37:26,070 --> 00:37:30,450 and is no more that it's about you're basically the Wild West, 590 00:37:30,450 --> 00:37:33,000 it's the Wild West, you're not the fastest gun, 591 00:37:33,090 --> 00:37:35,340 you're in the fastest gun. 592 00:37:38,070 --> 00:37:42,510 So, looking at this, we have to go back to the super predator 593 00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:46,680 meme, because that's still alive and well slash the thug life or 594 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:52,530 the thug. Slash, you know, so this comes from my movie 1992 595 00:37:52,530 --> 00:37:54,600 called juice. My featured 596 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,420 Tupac patch I remember this one. Yeah, sure. 597 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,790 And this scene right here let you enter the analysis movie in 598 00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:04,140 his dramatize but wasn't 599 00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:13,560 wasn't Kamala Harris in that movie. Sorry. I thought she was 600 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,200 hanging out with with Tupac back then I'm sorry 601 00:38:17,460 --> 00:38:19,710 especially with the lady in the record store with a goalkeeper 602 00:38:23,790 --> 00:38:29,340 Oh, yeah, so in this scene, it lets you into outside the mind 603 00:38:29,370 --> 00:38:32,250 of what they will say a quote unquote super predator thinks 604 00:38:32,250 --> 00:38:32,520 like 605 00:38:32,910 --> 00:38:37,500 it's over. Everything starts from now. We all go down unless 606 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:40,230 we stay together and no one man above the crew you know that 607 00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:52,350 shit crazy when you said that last time, I was kind of 608 00:38:52,350 --> 00:39:03,030 tripping right now you fight crazy, but you know what else 609 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:12,390 give a fuck fuck about you. Don't give a fuck about steel. 610 00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:16,500 And I'm gonna fuck about Raheem either. I'm gonna fuck about 611 00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:22,110 myself. Again, shit. I never gonna be shit. And you less of a 612 00:39:22,110 --> 00:39:28,920 man than me so soon as I decided you ain't gonna be shit. So be 613 00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:33,540 yes, it's a rom com. Obviously. 614 00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:38,280 So. So imagine coming across a person with that mentality that 615 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,390 has all the self hate in the world. Yeah. Nobody speaking 616 00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:45,300 positivity into him because that's the thing that was the 617 00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:48,870 character of Bishop. His father was a war vet. You know, he's 618 00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:53,580 kind of out of it. And he was being bullied by Rotom as his 619 00:39:53,580 --> 00:39:57,300 crew of rival gang. And he was tired of it. He was tired of 620 00:39:57,300 --> 00:40:00,390 being pushed around. I'm not saying I'm Just trying to 621 00:40:00,390 --> 00:40:04,500 humanize people. And it gets to the point where you have people 622 00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:08,280 just outwardly suicidal. It's like, I'll let society do the 623 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,210 job for me of killing me. But I'll take now everybody along 624 00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:15,120 the way I can. And that's kind of like the mentality of these 625 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,610 people that you come across. The problem with that is, there are 626 00:40:20,610 --> 00:40:25,950 so far and few between, as we pointed out with the flaw, the 627 00:40:25,950 --> 00:40:29,700 flaw in the super predator numbers, yeah, just because 628 00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:32,730 people will say they subscribe to this mindset don't mean they 629 00:40:32,730 --> 00:40:36,810 actually live it. And you have a lot of kids, including myself 630 00:40:36,810 --> 00:40:41,610 when I was young, that would dress the part that would use 631 00:40:41,610 --> 00:40:45,630 the vernacular to play the part. Because that's what the women 632 00:40:45,630 --> 00:40:48,420 were attracted to. Were the girls. You know, they want the 633 00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:51,360 tough guy. I mean, I mean, and this is, this is America, apple 634 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,530 pie. I mean, Fonzie got all the chicks. Because he had a leather 635 00:40:55,530 --> 00:40:58,350 jacket and the motorcycle. I mean, let's just keep it 100 636 00:40:58,350 --> 00:41:04,320 here. So this is nothing new. But it's this is what's feeding 637 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:10,380 this scenario with black on black crime. So I don't know. I 638 00:41:10,380 --> 00:41:13,800 want to know what you took away from that scene or what? What 639 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,180 sparked what sparked your mind? 640 00:41:19,290 --> 00:41:22,860 Well, it's, I think exactly what you said. It sounds like, well, 641 00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:26,670 there's I've met some crazy people in my life. Maybe they 642 00:41:26,670 --> 00:41:31,740 weren't in a gang. But they said crazy shit like this too. And 643 00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:38,190 yeah, it's frightening. But if you're gonna think, Well, look, 644 00:41:38,190 --> 00:41:41,730 this is trauma based entertainment. All the elements 645 00:41:41,730 --> 00:41:45,210 are in there. It's easy to think Holy crap. That's what all the 646 00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:49,080 urban areas are like, Kelly, you know, it's like I know that 647 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,680 sounds pretty desperate. 648 00:41:53,610 --> 00:41:56,670 And it's very dangerous because when people watch this and then 649 00:41:56,670 --> 00:42:00,990 they see me dressing looking like the characters they just 650 00:42:00,990 --> 00:42:03,900 associate and like I said, all this is part of a bigger plan 651 00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:08,190 and we're gonna get there. But I found a throwback clip from show 652 00:42:08,190 --> 00:42:12,420 41 And this is to pot and he talks about Donald Trump and 653 00:42:12,420 --> 00:42:13,350 greed and America I'm 654 00:42:13,350 --> 00:42:16,380 sorry I'm sorry. I kind of stop you for a second Yeah, sure. 655 00:42:19,140 --> 00:42:24,780 Well known is the talk that your parents had with you. Yes. Did 656 00:42:24,780 --> 00:42:28,740 the talk not at any point say son stop dressing like a 657 00:42:28,740 --> 00:42:31,290 gangbanger when you go out because you can get in trouble 658 00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:32,730 just for the way you look. 659 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:37,500 But it's not the point about dress like a gangbanger is the 660 00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:40,980 point of dressing about dress about point about dressing about 661 00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:46,590 what's hip. I wasn't wearing bandanas and tailors in those 662 00:42:46,590 --> 00:42:47,010 things. 663 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,520 Okay, I got you. Oh, but it doesn't take much. It doesn't 664 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,990 take much because it's popular. 665 00:42:52,290 --> 00:42:55,230 Look at the hood. Look at the hoodie. Yeah, yeah, he's been 666 00:42:55,230 --> 00:42:58,740 around since since forever, but it's like okay, we're gonna 667 00:42:58,740 --> 00:42:59,010 wait. 668 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:06,030 And I have to say and then let's I'll shut up. The hoodie was an 669 00:43:06,030 --> 00:43:10,650 exclusive white guy thing it got taken away from us was Trayvon. 670 00:43:11,790 --> 00:43:16,680 It was the Unabomber. trademark. It was a white horrible guy. 671 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,310 trademark. 672 00:43:17,370 --> 00:43:21,690 Oh, the other creepy guy with the sunglasses like, that's the 673 00:43:21,690 --> 00:43:22,890 unit. Never think about 674 00:43:22,890 --> 00:43:26,610 that. That was the unit. It was our hoodie, man. Thanks. Because 675 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,730 that's gonna show you how powerful images are. Because 676 00:43:29,730 --> 00:43:34,740 when you said that, the composite sketch that's my 677 00:43:34,740 --> 00:43:39,630 visual hoodie popped right into my head. But now that we say 678 00:43:39,630 --> 00:43:44,850 hoodie, we think Trayvon Martin those things. Yeah, I mean, we 679 00:43:44,850 --> 00:43:47,760 could go down the list. I mean, we like people who have taken a 680 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:55,350 whole bunch of wheat, wheat colored construction boots. It's 681 00:43:55,350 --> 00:43:56,550 just that was whiter, 682 00:43:56,610 --> 00:43:59,130 but that's okay. I feel good. You know, we've taken so much 683 00:43:59,130 --> 00:44:01,110 from the black brothers here. You can have the hoodie. 684 00:44:04,350 --> 00:44:06,780 With the hoodie that was like this, the hoodies been around 685 00:44:06,780 --> 00:44:11,400 since this era. 1992. The champion hoodie. This was very 686 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,030 common. So it was amazing how they started to weaponize it 687 00:44:15,180 --> 00:44:17,970 recently with the with the Trayvon Martin case, like it was 688 00:44:17,970 --> 00:44:22,080 the hoodie, the hoodie. It's like, no, but we had a clip that 689 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,630 we played before. Like, I won't let my kids wear hoodies or 690 00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:30,720 sneakers. It's like that's like the teenage boys go to is those 691 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:31,950 things. Yeah. And 692 00:44:31,950 --> 00:44:35,280 when my dad was a kid, it was the boots, the engineer boots, 693 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,860 because that was with Marlon Brando hat and that was cool. 694 00:44:37,860 --> 00:44:42,900 But then you were in a biker gang. So I guess it's the same 695 00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:44,370 thing. He boots. Yeah, same thing. 696 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,840 Okay. Right. Gotcha. So So Now getting back to Tupac Trump in 697 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,350 greed. 698 00:44:49,530 --> 00:44:53,340 This world is such an I say this world. I mean, I don't mean an 699 00:44:53,340 --> 00:44:56,640 ideal sense. I mean, in every day, every little thing you do 700 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,840 is such give me give me give me everybody backlog. You know, 701 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,750 everybody's like you taught that from school, everywhere big 702 00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:06,540 bins, you want to be successful. You want to be like Trump, give 703 00:45:06,540 --> 00:45:09,300 me give me give me push, push, push, push, step steps that 704 00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:12,390 crush, crush crush. That's how it all is. And it's like, nobody 705 00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:15,120 ever stopped. Just, you know, I feel like, instead of us just 706 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,450 being like, slavery is bad slavery is that bad. YT bad 707 00:45:18,450 --> 00:45:21,870 whitey. I mean, I, let's stop that. And everybody is smart 708 00:45:21,870 --> 00:45:24,600 enough to know that. I mean, we've been slighted. And we want 709 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,350 ours. And I don't mean by like ours, 40 acres and mu because we 710 00:45:28,350 --> 00:45:31,740 passed that. But we need help. I mean, for us to be on our own 711 00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:35,160 two feet, us meaning us or us men and black people, whatever 712 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,530 you want to take the fall. For us to be on our own two feet, we 713 00:45:37,530 --> 00:45:40,230 do need help. Because we have been here we have been a good 714 00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:43,320 friend. If you want to make it a relationship type thing. We have 715 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,170 been there. And now we deserve our pay back. It's like you got 716 00:45:46,170 --> 00:45:48,240 a friend that you don't never look out for. You know, you 717 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,510 dressed up in jewels. Now America's got Jews, and they got 718 00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:54,540 they paid and everything and they lend money to everybody 719 00:45:54,540 --> 00:45:55,380 except us. 720 00:45:56,010 --> 00:45:59,940 It wasn't too too far too long before he was a shot wasn't. 721 00:46:00,750 --> 00:46:04,350 This was 1992. So that was, what four years, four years. All 722 00:46:04,350 --> 00:46:08,190 right. So this is this is pre This is pre jail, right? To pot. 723 00:46:08,220 --> 00:46:12,000 And it was definitely a change that happened there. So maybe 724 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,600 one day we'll talk about that. But he makes a great point. That 725 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,140 was that was RemoteFX 41. If anyone wants to go back and 726 00:46:19,140 --> 00:46:20,610 listen to more, that was 727 00:46:20,610 --> 00:46:26,610 a thing. That Thug Life episode. That's right. So you have young 728 00:46:26,610 --> 00:46:31,290 black men grow up in America, which is take what you want. If 729 00:46:31,290 --> 00:46:35,520 somebody strikes on you, you strike back harder. If they 730 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,630 dropped two buildings in Manhattan, you go kill a million 731 00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:42,240 people, you know, what's that? Like? This is the rider 732 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:47,010 mentality. And it's like, when they embrace it is wrong. 733 00:46:47,759 --> 00:46:51,779 Yes, I this is one of my biggest, biggest gripes, of 734 00:46:51,779 --> 00:46:52,349 course. 735 00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:57,060 Because that's all we know, in America is just take. And you 736 00:46:57,060 --> 00:46:59,460 know, I mean, when I'm when I'm saying corporate America, 737 00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:03,000 America, the corporation is just tape, you know, and that's why I 738 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,360 like I think Trump gets respected at least, because he's 739 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,730 clear, you want us to come near what you're gonna give us? 740 00:47:08,970 --> 00:47:12,570 Right? How about that? Oh, you know, what? You're saying you 741 00:47:12,570 --> 00:47:14,610 want you want your streets cleaned up, you know, you want 742 00:47:14,610 --> 00:47:19,290 us to bank bank, we are set, you know what you're gonna give us a 743 00:47:19,290 --> 00:47:24,960 certain respect that comes with that. But yeah, so when you grow 744 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,130 this up, and then these kids are raised by television, you have 745 00:47:29,130 --> 00:47:32,190 no father to give you any context and nuance or those 746 00:47:32,190 --> 00:47:34,890 kinds of things. Like you said, the talk that you you have 747 00:47:34,890 --> 00:47:38,760 mentioned before, there's a bunch of tasks that go on. This 748 00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:41,190 is talks about how to deal with white people is taught today how 749 00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:44,100 to deal with your Onchain. You know, if you're in certain 750 00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:47,820 areas, don't go to certain areas that that people that look like 751 00:47:47,820 --> 00:47:52,110 you. I mean, this talk thing is not only this talk thing is not 752 00:47:52,110 --> 00:47:55,620 only about how to deal with white people, it's about how to 753 00:47:55,620 --> 00:47:58,830 deal with threats to your life. That's what the talk is about. 754 00:47:59,460 --> 00:48:01,710 Well, you said something interesting, because I thought 755 00:48:01,710 --> 00:48:05,010 the talk was pretty much about law enforcement. At least, 756 00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:07,500 that's what I've been told about the talk. You just said 757 00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:10,440 something different. And it makes total sense, by the way. 758 00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:13,680 But the first thing you said the talk is about how to deal with 759 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,060 white people. That's interesting. 760 00:48:16,350 --> 00:48:19,290 Well, that's part that's one of the biggest one not even white 761 00:48:19,290 --> 00:48:21,750 people, it's the cops. Okay, all right, no white people in 762 00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:25,350 general. But what I'm saying, what I'm saying is anything that 763 00:48:25,350 --> 00:48:28,620 can threaten your existence, whether it's taking your life, 764 00:48:28,650 --> 00:48:32,610 or your reputation, or, or you know, impeding you from having a 765 00:48:32,610 --> 00:48:36,120 good life, that's all encompassing of the talk that a 766 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,930 father has with his sons. And not let me be clear, I'm not 767 00:48:39,930 --> 00:48:44,130 excluding the girls, but girls and women, and everybody else 768 00:48:44,130 --> 00:48:48,930 has advocates for their cause. This is why this took me show 769 00:48:48,930 --> 00:48:54,240 took me two weeks, because I'm being an advocate for young men 770 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:58,200 that look like me. And I understand, I'm lucky to be 771 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,790 here. And reason why I'm saying I'm lucky, I participated in 772 00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:09,600 some of the same, some of the same activities, you know, our 773 00:49:09,930 --> 00:49:12,840 car ride and you know, when you go out, you ride, you're gonna 774 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,780 say, you know, bad license, bad registration, you don't have 775 00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:18,360 money, you know, the state is always messing with you some 776 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:23,250 kind of way that you know, right or wrong, I mean, but the state 777 00:49:23,250 --> 00:49:26,490 needs there's I mean, but you know, when you're young you 778 00:49:26,490 --> 00:49:29,640 don't think about that kind of thing. And I'm just to be honest 779 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,800 with you, I wanted to bad searchers, away from being you 780 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,350 know, say of being a victim of the criminal justice system. So 781 00:49:37,350 --> 00:49:40,830 when I speak about young black man, I'm speaking from the heart 782 00:49:40,830 --> 00:49:42,900 and black men in general, but especially with young young 783 00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:46,350 black men, I'll speak it for the heart because everybody else has 784 00:49:46,590 --> 00:49:49,560 the goal to use them for their own game, 785 00:49:49,650 --> 00:49:54,870 of course. So no, thank you. That's personal, but it's no 786 00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:57,900 that's it's very much at home with me. It's very much 787 00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:01,140 appreciated. And as you're saying, and that I was thinking 788 00:50:01,350 --> 00:50:05,640 that, you know, of course, I think every young man gets into 789 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:12,210 some stupid shit and we do some stupid shit. But I've never done 790 00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:19,890 anything that I never got caught. But I also didn't, I'm 791 00:50:19,890 --> 00:50:25,560 sure. But I'm sure of it. I'm sure that I didn't have the same 792 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,530 fear that you had for sure. I didn't have the same fear. 793 00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:33,930 What's the odds? It's like, let's take Corona, for instance. 794 00:50:34,290 --> 00:50:37,560 The more you test, the more positive you find, right? Yep. 795 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,780 So it's the same thing when you start talking about arresting 796 00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:42,210 pulling over people's more bullshit. You're gonna have more 797 00:50:42,210 --> 00:50:46,740 you are? Yeah, yeah. The more I have the roaches you're gonna 798 00:50:46,740 --> 00:50:50,100 find you have it's not like you you blatantly know. Oh, I forgot 799 00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:52,830 to you know, have this roach in my bookbag or, 800 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,580 you know, didn't have time to stop by my locker to drop this 801 00:50:56,580 --> 00:51:02,070 off. That I mean just and really now you knew way drugs you knew 802 00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:05,340 you knew if the gateway drug the more the more you test, the more 803 00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:08,130 positives you get that you nailed it. That's exactly right, 804 00:51:08,130 --> 00:51:10,830 the more you test, and if you're testing a certain group more, 805 00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:14,580 you're going to find the shit with them. Absolutely. Now 806 00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:18,180 because that's a topic we share. And I guarantee you I've smoke 807 00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:19,200 more weed than you have. 808 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:26,340 You probably have well I'm just saying that I'm probably better 809 00:51:26,370 --> 00:51:26,820 of course. 810 00:51:28,740 --> 00:51:29,880 Now it's that is it 811 00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:38,550 now that's a you know, just the inside baseball ultimate the all 812 00:51:38,550 --> 00:51:43,440 good we're all good races. We are good. We will often refer to 813 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,110 as white boy, we really so yeah, don't 814 00:51:46,110 --> 00:51:55,110 get me that Urbis can come in I want to white boy, we do come 815 00:51:55,530 --> 00:51:57,960 visit me Yeah, MO. And we'll show you what that's about. 816 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,350 So to get into the mindset of what we will call a thug, or a 817 00:52:04,350 --> 00:52:08,430 super predator, at one time, Malcolm X, will fall into this 818 00:52:08,430 --> 00:52:11,310 category before he was enlightened, you know, and 819 00:52:11,310 --> 00:52:14,880 broadened. So the knowledge of self and you know, the plight 820 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,760 against these people. So I have some excerpts from his 821 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,900 autobiography written by Alex Haley. And it's written by Joe 822 00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:26,910 Morton, and let's just get into 1.1. West any Archie vs. Detroit 823 00:52:26,910 --> 00:52:27,300 read. 824 00:52:27,690 --> 00:52:32,370 It was a classic hustler code impasse. The money wasn't the 825 00:52:32,370 --> 00:52:37,440 problem. I still had about $200 of it. had money been the issue, 826 00:52:37,770 --> 00:52:40,620 Sammy could have made up the difference. If it wasn't in his 827 00:52:40,620 --> 00:52:44,580 pocket. His women could quickly have raised it. Within the an 828 00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:48,000 Archie himself for that matter would have loaned me $300 About 829 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,060 asked him as many 1000s of dollars of miners he'd gotten 830 00:52:51,060 --> 00:52:55,380 10% off once in fact, when he'd heard I was broke. He had looked 831 00:52:55,380 --> 00:52:59,010 me up and handed me some money and grunted, stick this in the 832 00:52:59,010 --> 00:53:04,470 pocket. The issue was the position which his action had 833 00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:08,940 put us both into for hustling on our sidewalk, jungle world face 834 00:53:08,970 --> 00:53:12,930 and Ana were important. No hustler could have known that 835 00:53:12,930 --> 00:53:16,170 he'd been hyped meaning outsmarted Omega foo love and 836 00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:19,650 worse. The Hustler could never afford to have a demonstrated 837 00:53:19,650 --> 00:53:22,860 that he could be bluffed that he could be frightened by a threat 838 00:53:23,070 --> 00:53:27,960 that he lacked nerve. West Indian Archie knew that some 839 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,540 young hustlers row was in stature in our world when they 840 00:53:30,540 --> 00:53:33,900 somehow hoodwinked older hustlers than put it on the wire 841 00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:38,070 for everyone to hear. He believed I was trying that, in 842 00:53:38,070 --> 00:53:41,190 turn, I knew he would be protecting his stature by 843 00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:45,030 broadcasting all of the why his threat to me because of this 844 00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:48,210 code. In my time in Harlem, I'd personally known a dozen 845 00:53:48,210 --> 00:53:54,000 hustlers who threatened left town disgraced. Once the wire 846 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,290 had it, any retreat by either abyss was unthinkable, the wine 847 00:53:58,290 --> 00:54:00,690 would be awaiting the report of the showdown. 848 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:10,350 So this is yo Malcolm X. He's claimed that he hit a number and 849 00:54:10,350 --> 00:54:13,350 the guy that ran the numbers of Austin numbers is a huge 850 00:54:14,910 --> 00:54:19,020 component of black culture. And that time not as much now 851 00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:22,950 because you have the little illegal lottery. But he claimed 852 00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:25,680 that he had a number Archie say he didn't so they now they're at 853 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:31,680 an impasse right. And to save face. Archie has to call Malcolm 854 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,550 out who was not at Detroit read it at the time. And this thing 855 00:54:35,550 --> 00:54:39,540 he referred to multiple times is the wire Yeah, the wire the 856 00:54:39,540 --> 00:54:45,390 wire. The wire is what social media is now or what we say the 857 00:54:45,390 --> 00:54:49,350 streets but they say the streets is talking. Used to hear this 858 00:54:49,350 --> 00:54:51,900 all heard it through a grapevine Bird on the wire, what they're 859 00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:57,870 talking. This is this was like the social media of that time. 860 00:54:58,230 --> 00:55:00,930 And once it got on the wire that you had been played you have to 861 00:55:00,930 --> 00:55:04,440 save face. And that's what it's all about now I still decided 862 00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:07,590 that it's not most of them are not about money it's about this 863 00:55:07,620 --> 00:55:10,560 image that you create it won't be in Detroit read other than 864 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:20,010 being Weston Archie, which are caricatures or lack of I'll 865 00:55:20,010 --> 00:55:22,830 lose. I don't have a lack of better word but just caricatures 866 00:55:22,830 --> 00:55:27,180 of themselves or alter egos. That's the word I'm looking for 867 00:55:27,210 --> 00:55:29,940 these alter ego that you build up for yourself on the streets. 868 00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:32,880 That's why every rapper has an alter ego, if you notice, and 869 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,210 sometimes multiple ones, because he's like, You have Curtis 870 00:55:36,210 --> 00:55:39,840 Jackson, do you have 50 cents? 50 cents can't get played, you 871 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,200 know, with the Archie can't get played Detroit Red can't get 872 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,750 played. So now the wire is waiting scene. 873 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,790 Did he get flav? Oh, right. Right. Exactly. It's the wire. 874 00:55:50,820 --> 00:55:54,960 So I completely understand the wires that time when had been 875 00:55:55,260 --> 00:55:58,890 barber shops and guy on the corner to the next guy, 876 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:04,740 telephones telephone and now that come back and hip hop as 877 00:56:04,770 --> 00:56:08,670 like a real wire that ran through the songs or is it 878 00:56:08,670 --> 00:56:11,820 always kind of maintain that street level? And it may it may 879 00:56:11,820 --> 00:56:14,520 be as you said social media today? Does it still exist in 880 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,960 the old form of the wire? 881 00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:20,460 No. Well, I mean, it's all about technology and how it can be 882 00:56:20,460 --> 00:56:24,090 utilized. So it's hard to telephone. Okay, and then we 883 00:56:24,090 --> 00:56:28,080 have music come about you had it go on wax and you're saying they 884 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,800 always say the term on wax off wax on wax be me was just night 885 00:56:31,830 --> 00:56:35,280 talking jump when it would jump off a wax because you saw this 886 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,580 with a Tupac and Biggie thing. Once it gets to a point one guy 887 00:56:38,580 --> 00:56:42,000 sleeping with the other guy's wife, or claiming that sweet 888 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,440 sleep with other guys wife. Something has to happen. Say 889 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,120 you're at a point now of it's 890 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,200 not really a racial thing. Someone's got to happen in every 891 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,640 group with that shit. Yeah. 892 00:56:53,820 --> 00:56:57,150 And I'm glad you asked me because I'm open on home. Boom. 893 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:04,470 It's the same thing with Roger Stone. General Flynn. We don't 894 00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:09,450 fall we don't rat us. There sir. Certain things that the street 895 00:57:09,450 --> 00:57:13,230 respect about just code Donald Trump, and he's saying his 896 00:57:13,230 --> 00:57:16,980 cohort. It's like, and Cohen was looking at like a rat. It's 897 00:57:16,980 --> 00:57:22,830 like, Bro Yeah, that was a bad look. It was a very, it was a 898 00:57:22,830 --> 00:57:26,760 very bad look. Because I mean, because I'm looking at through 899 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,480 the streets eyes. And it's like, no, you can't read. I mean, you 900 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,240 did dirt with this dude. I mean, you his lawyer, for God's sake. 901 00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:36,000 And you out here you're saying you out here, right? I mean, 902 00:57:36,210 --> 00:57:39,150 what, you know, General Flynn, that would be considered 903 00:57:39,210 --> 00:57:43,410 soldiers. Right? But the irony in that you put they were could 904 00:57:43,410 --> 00:57:47,400 be considered soldiers because they didn't tell they didn't 905 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,330 take the easy way out. You know, they wrote um, so this face 906 00:57:51,330 --> 00:57:54,630 saving face thing. I mean, it's big in all cultures, especially 907 00:57:55,260 --> 00:57:58,290 masculine driven culture, right. So I just wanna I just want to 908 00:57:58,290 --> 00:58:00,750 say that that's cool. I enjoy hearing that. Thank you. 909 00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:06,360 Alright, so now you have Weston Archie in Detroit read about and 910 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,060 how a face off and we'll hear about it and one point to 911 00:58:09,420 --> 00:58:12,030 the next thing I knew Weston and Archie was standing before me 912 00:58:12,060 --> 00:58:15,870 cursing me loud. His gun on me was really making his public 913 00:58:15,870 --> 00:58:19,320 point floor show him for the people. He called me foul names 914 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,730 threatened. Everyone bought tenders customers sat or stood 915 00:58:23,730 --> 00:58:28,470 as dough carved drinks in midair. The jukebox in the rear 916 00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:32,640 was going. I had never seen West Indian Archie hand before. Not a 917 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,300 whiskey. Ha. I could tell it was something else. I knew the 918 00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:40,890 hustlers characteristic of keying up on dope to do a job. I 919 00:58:40,890 --> 00:58:46,620 was thinking I'm gonna kill Archie. I'm just gonna wait 920 00:58:46,620 --> 00:58:50,610 until he turns around to get the drop on them. I could feel my 921 00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:53,490 own 32 resting against my ribs where it was tucked under my 922 00:58:53,490 --> 00:58:59,190 belt beneath my coat was Tinian Archie Seaman to read my mind. 923 00:58:59,460 --> 00:59:04,680 Quit Kherson and his words jarred me. You're thinking 924 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,640 you're gonna kill me first read. But I'm gonna give you something 925 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:14,700 to think about. I'm 60 I'm an old man. I begin to Sing sing. 926 00:59:14,970 --> 00:59:21,060 My life is over. You're a young man. Kill me. You're lost 927 00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:26,970 anyway. All you can do is go to prison. I've since stopped that 928 00:59:26,970 --> 00:59:29,910 Western Ian Archie may have been trying to scare me into run it 929 00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:34,980 to see both his face and his life. It may be that's why he 930 00:59:34,980 --> 00:59:39,720 was so high. No one knew that I hadn't killed anyone. But no one 931 00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:41,940 who knew me including myself would doubt 932 00:59:41,970 --> 00:59:45,990 that I'd kill. Wow, it's a great story. 933 00:59:48,270 --> 00:59:52,470 This goes to show you if this would have went left. Yeah, it 934 00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:56,430 could have not have one of our greatest leaders in history. 935 00:59:57,210 --> 01:00:00,120 Make it to the point where he was able to realize you know was 936 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,740 saying who he really was you know and what that he brought so 937 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,500 this is why I'm passionate about a young man I think there's a 938 01:00:07,500 --> 01:00:16,560 lot of redeemable young men out there it just takes guidance and 939 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,430 this is why the father No father in the home and you know parent 940 01:00:20,430 --> 01:00:25,230 fathers family back together a parent privilege is so important 941 01:00:25,650 --> 01:00:29,850 now we have to get to the so called white people that love to 942 01:00:29,850 --> 01:00:31,410 bring up black on black call 943 01:00:31,410 --> 01:00:34,320 hey now it's Adams portion of the show. Okay. 944 01:00:35,190 --> 01:00:40,170 Well, now I'm messing with he's amazing how Yeah, no, say it's 945 01:00:40,170 --> 01:00:46,920 amazing how black people are demonized when they have 946 01:00:47,220 --> 01:00:51,630 standoffs like Detroit Red and West any art you have, but not 947 01:00:51,630 --> 01:00:53,280 so much of their gunslingers. 948 01:00:55,740 --> 01:01:00,540 Oh, okay. Shall we roll this? Yes, please. 949 01:01:03,900 --> 01:01:09,870 The tense prolonged drama of the Western gunfight. It is a scene 950 01:01:09,870 --> 01:01:13,920 played over and over, not only in books and on the screen, but 951 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,900 also in our imagination. 952 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,980 Well, the classic Western gunfight that's in our mind, is 953 01:01:22,980 --> 01:01:25,800 of two men facing off in the street with a camera angle 954 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,890 underneath one person's leg looking at the other one, the 955 01:01:28,890 --> 01:01:32,700 good guy, he lets the bad guy draw first. And then of course, 956 01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:36,090 the good guy ends up drawing and shooting the bad guy between the 957 01:01:36,090 --> 01:01:37,260 eyes End of story. 958 01:01:41,010 --> 01:01:43,500 When we think of Western gunfighters, we think of the 959 01:01:43,710 --> 01:01:48,240 classic Western gunfight problem is it's simply never happened. I 960 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,050 don't know of a single time in Western history, where two guys 961 01:01:52,050 --> 01:01:54,900 were actually dumb enough to get out in the middle of the street 962 01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:58,830 and challenge each other to a draw. He get killed like that. 963 01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:05,280 Yeah, so true, though. Yeah, of course it then. That is 964 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,090 interesting. Black, Black cowboy guy. black guys in cowboy movies 965 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,700 isn't really strange, you know, walking around with guns because 966 01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:14,520 I got the hats on to the Spurs. And it's all good. 967 01:02:14,550 --> 01:02:17,820 Right? Bass bass. Reeves won the baddest man every wall you're 968 01:02:17,820 --> 01:02:18,510 saying. Right? 969 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:20,370 Exactly. 970 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:26,910 But it's, as you can see here, all about narrative, even though 971 01:02:26,910 --> 01:02:32,820 it didn't go down that way. They can rewrite history. And that's 972 01:02:32,820 --> 01:02:35,370 what happened here. And we're gonna look start looking, we got 973 01:02:35,370 --> 01:02:38,730 to look at history. I'm not a big history person. Even though 974 01:02:38,730 --> 01:02:41,820 I play a lot of clips from history. Yeah, I'm about what 975 01:02:41,820 --> 01:02:46,710 narrative survived from history. That's what piques my interest. 976 01:02:46,740 --> 01:02:49,500 But why are we talking about what we're talking about now, 977 01:02:49,620 --> 01:02:53,820 and not the other 10 Interesting things that get buried who's 978 01:02:53,820 --> 01:02:59,790 pushing this narrative? So to explain the Western culture, the 979 01:02:59,790 --> 01:03:06,360 wild, wild west, they had the, you know, civilize it like I'm 980 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:13,140 calling you out. Meet me out Todd at high noon. And that's 981 01:03:13,140 --> 01:03:16,350 not even how it went down. But the fact that that's programmed 982 01:03:16,350 --> 01:03:19,560 into my mind, it's like, I look at black people to do the same 983 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:25,080 thing. A Detroit Red meet me outside, right? Just look at him 984 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:30,120 as two thugs. But now this is this is real white supremacy 985 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,510 something really honorable about a gunfight the way you imagine 986 01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:36,000 it in the movies where they're standing out again, and you 987 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,480 know, face to face and exactly said that shot from through one 988 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,060 guy's legs, see the other guy that always has like this 989 01:03:42,060 --> 01:03:45,120 dueling kind of honest man thing. 990 01:03:46,050 --> 01:03:49,650 You call me yellow. These terms of 991 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,730 mind and not a racist term, by the way, ya 992 01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:59,610 know? What, what if you have two black men call each other out in 993 01:03:59,610 --> 01:04:02,100 the streets that have honest grievances, and they just shoot 994 01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:05,910 it out? is seen as Oh, that's barbaric. You know, these are 995 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,900 this is this narrative that I'm talking about. And the thing is 996 01:04:09,900 --> 01:04:13,620 glyphs Lakers don't even exist, they're not even a real thing. 997 01:04:14,250 --> 01:04:15,420 That's just the movies. 998 01:04:16,860 --> 01:04:18,540 Power the mountain a narrative. 999 01:04:19,350 --> 01:04:21,540 All right, and we're gonna say, 1000 01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:26,790 before I continue all I want to go back to one point and on the 1001 01:04:26,790 --> 01:04:31,410 war watch front that we do. So what you have here, the super 1002 01:04:31,470 --> 01:04:37,740 the duck is the product of the gender of the call the gender 1003 01:04:37,740 --> 01:04:42,000 war, and now his result itself in the generational war. Yeah, 1004 01:04:42,030 --> 01:04:45,600 because the children have been charged up against men, older 1005 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,670 men, and that's why you're seeing it play out in the 1006 01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:50,220 streets like mess and I wanted to make that point before we got 1007 01:04:50,220 --> 01:04:54,210 away too far with West Indian Archie in Detroit red clip. 1008 01:04:54,540 --> 01:04:57,870 There's always gonna be eminent t between older men and younger 1009 01:04:57,870 --> 01:05:05,250 men, but it's only up heighten by the mother, you know, shaping 1010 01:05:05,250 --> 01:05:09,630 the young boy's mind against the older male, ie the father, 1011 01:05:09,660 --> 01:05:10,260 right? 1012 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:16,650 Yeah, that flows Oh, of course that flows over. So me is like 1013 01:05:16,650 --> 01:05:20,640 now I'm 56 I'm definitely a guy to be hated. 1014 01:05:22,740 --> 01:05:25,980 Naturally, I mean, as in this is part of nature. I mean, the 1015 01:05:25,980 --> 01:05:28,830 younger models and the younger lions, you know, they're gonna 1016 01:05:28,830 --> 01:05:32,760 look to test the older ones. But that's what separates for 1017 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,550 animals is that when we work with the previous generations, 1018 01:05:36,060 --> 01:05:40,260 and all other genders that you know, make a better civilization 1019 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,320 and better society. So I just want I just wanted to go back to 1020 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,530 that because I just want to lay that out because all the we 1021 01:05:46,530 --> 01:05:51,360 talked about is going to be gender war, generational war, or 1022 01:05:51,510 --> 01:05:58,380 race war, right. So Alright, so let's get into wild west part 1023 01:05:58,380 --> 01:05:58,770 two. 1024 01:06:02,250 --> 01:06:05,340 But there is certainly a grain of truth behind the gunslinger 1025 01:06:05,340 --> 01:06:11,070 legend. And finding it takes us to the western frontier in the 1026 01:06:11,070 --> 01:06:16,320 second half of the 19th century. It was a lawless time when the 1027 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,070 harsh and grimy reality of life came to favor those who were 1028 01:06:20,070 --> 01:06:21,510 fearless with a gun. 1029 01:06:23,700 --> 01:06:26,820 The willingness to step to the edge is what determined whether 1030 01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:31,290 or not a man had what it took. If you think of the quote from 1031 01:06:31,290 --> 01:06:35,610 the novel, The Shootist, JB books, the protagonist says, 1032 01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:38,880 most men will hesitate before they pull the trigger, they'll 1033 01:06:38,910 --> 01:06:42,060 blink an eye or take a breath. I won't. 1034 01:06:44,430 --> 01:06:48,210 In the Old West, Shootist was a common term for the men who made 1035 01:06:48,210 --> 01:06:52,290 the reputations with guns. The word gunfighter appeared as 1036 01:06:52,290 --> 01:06:58,320 early as 1870, but did not come into wide use until later. The 1037 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,130 word gun slinger is probably a creation of the 20th century. 1038 01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:06,720 Researchers at Merriam Webster's have traced it no further than 1039 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,740 the famous author Zane Grey, who used it in his novel Nevada, 1040 01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:19,560 written in 1928. The Gunslinger by any name was the product of a 1041 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,070 society in which guns were essential tools from the very 1042 01:07:23,070 --> 01:07:23,640 beginning. 1043 01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:29,340 Yeah, no doubt that is our culture. That is our that is our 1044 01:07:29,340 --> 01:07:31,530 American culture for sure. 1045 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:37,530 So if you take young men, and you show them these images, 1046 01:07:37,590 --> 01:07:41,670 yeah, you have no no fork, counterbalance force there to 1047 01:07:41,670 --> 01:07:45,870 explain to them what they're saying. And to splaining to them 1048 01:07:45,870 --> 01:07:55,800 about being positive, or not even positive but righteous in 1049 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,220 your actions. I mean, because even when Clint Eastwood came, 1050 01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:04,920 he's like, okay, I get it. You know? Those guys are bad. Even 1051 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:09,270 though Clint is kind of bad. You know? They will hire him to 1052 01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:11,850 clean up the town. Yeah, we don't get any of that 1053 01:08:11,850 --> 01:08:16,230 counterbalance there. Now, I want to go back to controlling 1054 01:08:16,230 --> 01:08:20,700 language. gunslinger is a creation of the 20th century. 1055 01:08:22,440 --> 01:08:26,640 Yes. I've never heard the term shoot. It's before now. 1056 01:08:28,170 --> 01:08:30,930 I had not heard that either. Shoot us? No, that was new to 1057 01:08:30,930 --> 01:08:31,590 me, too. 1058 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,680 We need to start referring to you know, black on black. Oh, 1059 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,460 did you shoot is this the shoot is culture, you know? Something 1060 01:08:38,460 --> 01:08:42,660 like that. I mean, it's amazing the narrative of how it could 1061 01:08:42,660 --> 01:08:49,440 just be explained away. How certain cultures gain their way 1062 01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:51,990 in American it's like, oh, no, those rough times. It was 1063 01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:55,980 decided by the gun and guns were critical tools. And I'm not 1064 01:08:55,980 --> 01:08:58,620 justifying any of them. I'm just saying this shoot is 1065 01:08:59,610 --> 01:09:04,920 The Shootist. That was the John Wayne movie. Really? Yeah, the 1066 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:09,690 shoot is not the excuse me, I'm not the film buff. It's not like 1067 01:09:09,900 --> 01:09:13,890 the Siskel and Ebert over here just to date myself. Wikipedia 1068 01:09:13,890 --> 01:09:17,280 the shooters there's a 7690 76 American western film directed 1069 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:22,590 by Don Segal. It is notably known as John Wayne's final film 1070 01:09:22,590 --> 01:09:27,630 roll. And he is John Wayne, Lauren Bacall. He's The 1071 01:09:27,630 --> 01:09:31,830 Shootist. So, that is interesting. I'm just throwing 1072 01:09:31,830 --> 01:09:34,020 it out there because that always gives us context when we find 1073 01:09:34,020 --> 01:09:35,730 the root the roots of these words, 1074 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:40,230 and it's the shared mentality of a cow like Billy the Kid and 1075 01:09:40,230 --> 01:09:45,270 somebody, a young kid now. You know, I have my gun. My gun is 1076 01:09:45,270 --> 01:09:49,260 the only thing that allows me not to become a victim. And you 1077 01:09:49,260 --> 01:09:54,270 know, is me and my gun. Right? That's the mentality. So how can 1078 01:09:54,270 --> 01:10:00,420 we look down on the premise of how they got their kit? and also 1079 01:10:00,420 --> 01:10:02,820 considering all the things that shape their environment that we 1080 01:10:02,820 --> 01:10:07,980 talked to talk about in the last 47 episodes. Yes, hopefully, you 1081 01:10:07,980 --> 01:10:11,040 know, we explained that a little bit, but it doesn't just start 1082 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,450 when the wild wild west either. 1083 01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:15,930 And neighborhood turf was absolutely everything the gang 1084 01:10:15,930 --> 01:10:20,040 members and the I think probably a good gas for the average age 1085 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,330 of a gang member was probably about 16 or 17, probably down to 1086 01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:25,920 as low as 12. 1087 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:30,060 I mean, they did every possible thing that you could do. At the 1088 01:10:30,060 --> 01:10:31,980 time, the corruption was unbelievable when you when you 1089 01:10:31,980 --> 01:10:33,120 really get into the history of 1090 01:10:33,390 --> 01:10:37,710 the people must be made to understand that all these things 1091 01:10:37,740 --> 01:10:40,740 are best kept within what I like to call the Tammany family, 1092 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,530 which is why I'm talking about an alliance between our two 1093 01:10:43,530 --> 01:10:49,170 great organizations. Talking about muscle, muscle damage our 1094 01:10:49,170 --> 01:10:53,070 spirit, we want classes, get them to the police. Oh, no, 1095 01:10:53,070 --> 01:10:58,860 Jesus, no. The appearance of the law must be upheld. Especially 1096 01:10:58,860 --> 01:10:59,730 while it's being broken. 1097 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,770 There was a time when the line between criminal and hero and 1098 01:11:04,890 --> 01:11:09,090 decent human being and not a decent human being were very 1099 01:11:09,090 --> 01:11:09,510 muddy 1100 01:11:09,809 --> 01:11:16,409 and murky. Yeah, she Yeah. Yeah. This is from a movie right. Oh, 1101 01:11:16,409 --> 01:11:16,799 Liam 1102 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:22,500 Neeson? Oh, Liam. Yeah, this is from gang of America. Gang gangs 1103 01:11:22,500 --> 01:11:25,260 in New York. Yeah. But do you listen to how they were talking 1104 01:11:25,260 --> 01:11:28,620 about it? i Oh, yeah. You know, the lines were murky then. And 1105 01:11:28,860 --> 01:11:33,060 oh, they did? I mean, even on Leonardo DiCaprio, HE CHUCKLES 1106 01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:37,740 when he talks about his? Oh, yeah, they did everything. So 1107 01:11:37,740 --> 01:11:41,760 it's this mentality of like every other culture. And you 1108 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,890 hear this a lot. When you talk about black on black crime, the 1109 01:11:43,890 --> 01:11:48,090 retort is, well, the Kennedys got rich off a liquor. The 1110 01:11:48,090 --> 01:11:52,800 Bush's got rich off of cocaine, I mean, and steel and oil and 1111 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:57,900 those kinds of things. So these people are aware of American 1112 01:11:57,900 --> 01:12:01,320 history, not the ones don't know, boots on the ground. But 1113 01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:04,650 it's a couple of things. I want to point out in that clip. He 1114 01:12:04,650 --> 01:12:08,040 says that, when I think they're talking to Boss Tweed, and he 1115 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,910 says, Why don't you get the rollers to roll this, I think is 1116 01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:15,480 another word for cops at the time, because I want you to get 1117 01:12:15,480 --> 01:12:20,310 them to do is I No, no, no, no, no. We need muscle. That's the 1118 01:12:20,310 --> 01:12:21,270 third wave. 1119 01:12:22,139 --> 01:12:27,119 That's the third wave. Third Wave, right. Yeah, I want to re 1120 01:12:27,119 --> 01:12:27,869 explain this. 1121 01:12:29,370 --> 01:12:33,420 So the third wave is okay, we have a Black Lives Matter ink or 1122 01:12:33,420 --> 01:12:38,070 black black ink protest. The first wave are, you know, the 1123 01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:39,210 Black Lives Matter? 1124 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,830 It's the suburban kids who are who, meanwhile, are under 1125 01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:45,480 informed and over socialized? 1126 01:12:45,690 --> 01:12:48,870 Well, I think that I think the first wave of activists are the 1127 01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:54,330 charts color. Oh, well, well trained Marxist. By their by 1128 01:12:54,330 --> 01:12:58,920 their turn? Yes. We're super super trained or super versed in 1129 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,130 Marxism. Yeah, well, they're on the group that the the first 1130 01:13:02,130 --> 01:13:05,190 wave. And then you have the second wave, or the agent 1131 01:13:05,190 --> 01:13:09,330 provocateurs, the ones that break the glass. Now, we've seen 1132 01:13:09,330 --> 01:13:11,880 that they could come on either side or the right or the left, 1133 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,970 because we've seen some, some stories there. But then the 1134 01:13:14,970 --> 01:13:20,790 third wave are the actual people who who criminal element. Yeah, 1135 01:13:20,850 --> 01:13:21,450 well, it's, 1136 01:13:22,110 --> 01:13:24,090 let me play it back, just to make sure that I got it right. 1137 01:13:24,090 --> 01:13:27,330 Because we had this conversation around one I know. And the third 1138 01:13:27,330 --> 01:13:33,360 wave is literally the the the people who have in the beginning 1139 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,330 of the show, were saying, well, it like Tupac said, Take Take, 1140 01:13:36,330 --> 01:13:38,730 that's what Trump does. All these guys do it when they get 1141 01:13:38,730 --> 01:13:42,540 the opportunity. The windows were broken. We didn't break the 1142 01:13:42,540 --> 01:13:45,240 windows, but now it's open people go what this is we're 1143 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,340 going to take this is what everybody does, that is the 1144 01:13:47,340 --> 01:13:50,220 American way that that I think is your point about the third 1145 01:13:50,220 --> 01:13:50,640 wave. 1146 01:13:51,570 --> 01:13:55,260 That's my whole point is kind of like when they have you know, we 1147 01:13:55,290 --> 01:13:59,520 go to other nations, like these non governmental organizations. 1148 01:14:00,210 --> 01:14:03,360 That will be the third way is like, you know, the government 1149 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,630 came in and destabilize and you know, Rubble is the word you 1150 01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:09,750 like to use. But now we're going to clean up and now if we have 1151 01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:13,020 to, now if we take you know, make a profit off of it, it is 1152 01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:16,020 what it is, is here for the taking that kind of thing. So 1153 01:14:16,020 --> 01:14:19,110 it's the same it's the same mentality what is just amazing. 1154 01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:23,820 I want to point this final point out of Liam Neeson This is the 1155 01:14:23,820 --> 01:14:26,940 same guy that says that the thought of black man hair right 1156 01:14:26,940 --> 01:14:30,120 one of his friends or she told him right, he walked the streets 1157 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:34,740 for weeks, looking for a black man to beat up and attack. But 1158 01:14:34,740 --> 01:14:37,590 then he laughs All criminality when it's done by other people. 1159 01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:41,790 It's just amazing. The hypocrisy. I'm saying Yeah. When 1160 01:14:41,790 --> 01:14:45,840 you say black on black crime, or remember that America is rooted 1161 01:14:45,870 --> 01:14:49,740 rooted in criminal criminal activity and in criminal 1162 01:14:49,740 --> 01:14:52,290 mindset, you know, from the very beginning because he was strong, 1163 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:57,300 only the strong survive. I mean, like I'm not taking away 1164 01:14:57,300 --> 01:14:58,440 anything. I'm just saying that's the 1165 01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:00,810 reality. Let me throw somewhere nice. Let me let me throw 1166 01:15:00,810 --> 01:15:08,610 something at you. As a so called white man in America, of course, 1167 01:15:08,610 --> 01:15:11,490 I recognize the criminal activity. And as I said earlier, 1168 01:15:11,490 --> 01:15:13,050 and she didn't have the pleasure, that was a lot of the 1169 01:15:13,050 --> 01:15:16,080 political system and elements in politics are incredibly 1170 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:20,490 criminal. It's interesting, I know that if I really had wanted 1171 01:15:20,490 --> 01:15:23,910 to, or if I was younger, if I wanted to, I know that I could 1172 01:15:23,910 --> 01:15:27,300 achieve that level of criminality. And I would 1173 01:15:27,300 --> 01:15:29,910 understand that, and I'm just shooting from the hip here, so 1174 01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:33,090 So I don't know if there's gonna go anywhere. It's like, I would 1175 01:15:33,090 --> 01:15:35,340 be familiar, like, okay, but you know, these are bunch of douche 1176 01:15:35,340 --> 01:15:42,090 bags. And they're not going to shoot me. The worst I can get 1177 01:15:42,090 --> 01:15:45,060 from them is they're going to steal from me indirectly. And 1178 01:15:45,060 --> 01:15:49,050 they might send me or my kids off to war, then when you see, 1179 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:57,930 you know, like the like, the music videos, or Tupac juice, 1180 01:15:57,930 --> 01:16:01,500 the juice movie, like, I can never be that. And I And it's 1181 01:16:01,500 --> 01:16:04,890 true, I can never be that because I can never be that, you 1182 01:16:04,890 --> 01:16:09,120 see. And that is by itself really scary, because I don't 1183 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:13,440 know what that person is maybe capable of. Whereas I can 1184 01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:17,400 identify with that person over there. And that seems much less. 1185 01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:23,220 And it's and by the way, it's truly racist thinking. But 1186 01:16:23,220 --> 01:16:25,350 that's what it was. He's really 1187 01:16:25,380 --> 01:16:30,360 whining. This is systemic. This is systemic racism. I mean, we 1188 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,160 didn't rewrite history. No, you 1189 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:36,270 know what it is? It's just ignorance. It's ignorance. I 1190 01:16:36,270 --> 01:16:39,690 look at the world so differently. After 47 episodes, 1191 01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:42,390 my life has changed. And I've been doing 1192 01:16:43,139 --> 01:16:45,629 the work, I'm talking about the people. I'm talking about the 1193 01:16:45,629 --> 01:16:49,229 people that says that they built the system, where you could 1194 01:16:49,229 --> 01:16:53,339 think that way to think it's fantastic. Did so 1195 01:16:53,340 --> 01:16:53,940 smart. 1196 01:16:55,590 --> 01:17:00,690 It is. I mean, genie has a Yeah, I'm not taking anything away 1197 01:17:00,690 --> 01:17:03,420 from the architecture of it. I'm just telling you what the system 1198 01:17:03,420 --> 01:17:08,010 is. And it's, we're designing it to say two behaviors, with be 1199 01:17:08,010 --> 01:17:12,210 seen totally different by who's doing that behavior. And this is 1200 01:17:12,210 --> 01:17:13,800 probably saying that now, 1201 01:17:14,490 --> 01:17:16,650 it's probably one of the most important episodes we've done. I 1202 01:17:16,650 --> 01:17:21,300 know I said it before. But when you come to the realization that 1203 01:17:21,300 --> 01:17:26,760 the system really has been set up for you to believe these 1204 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,800 things, and you know, obviously, I know a lot of this is 1205 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:34,140 reinforced through entertainment and media. But most people can 1206 01:17:34,140 --> 01:17:39,180 never step back and see that vast difference. There may be 1207 01:17:39,180 --> 01:17:42,870 people right now listening, going, and I'm quite get it. I'm 1208 01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:45,990 telling you, I'm telling you that you have to, like holy 1209 01:17:45,990 --> 01:17:50,160 shit. It's absolutely true. But and this is the good point the 1210 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:55,050 other. The for me, the good thing is, when you think about 1211 01:17:55,050 --> 01:17:59,490 it, when you've had to think about it, your your thinking is, 1212 01:17:59,580 --> 01:18:03,780 is changed forever. That's good news. 1213 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:11,310 Yeah. Because you see from and, and likewise, if you come up on 1214 01:18:11,310 --> 01:18:14,730 the other side of that coin, you say, how can they not? How can 1215 01:18:14,730 --> 01:18:17,370 they not see its course, of course. But 1216 01:18:17,610 --> 01:18:22,020 when you achieve a certain level in America, and you're not faced 1217 01:18:22,020 --> 01:18:26,280 with it day by day, then you understand or some people don't 1218 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,180 understand. They just say, Oh, I brought pull myself by my own 1219 01:18:30,180 --> 01:18:33,180 bootstraps, you know, I put myself in this position to 1220 01:18:33,180 --> 01:18:38,340 succeed. No, you were very lucky. Because you didn't get 1221 01:18:38,340 --> 01:18:41,580 the full brunt of what the system does. That's the only 1222 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,990 like I said, the only thing that protected me was my parents my 1223 01:18:46,020 --> 01:18:50,010 parental privilege. That's it, because they made me who 1224 01:18:50,010 --> 01:18:54,600 realized who I was what was out there, how to navigate the 1225 01:18:54,600 --> 01:19:00,510 system. And I had a lot of praying, praying people for me, 1226 01:19:00,510 --> 01:19:04,290 I'm gonna be honest with you, because like I said, one, one 1227 01:19:04,290 --> 01:19:07,920 bad turn. And easily you get caught up in that system. And 1228 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,590 people think, Oh, well, you're not getting 20 years for, you 1229 01:19:10,590 --> 01:19:14,670 know, no smoking a joint. But it's a slippery slope. Once you 1230 01:19:14,670 --> 01:19:18,240 get in that system. Yeah. You never can get out because it's 1231 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:22,590 accumulation. Now we've built this one thing, next thing and a 1232 01:19:22,590 --> 01:19:26,700 lot of guys in jail rather just finished their sentence in jail 1233 01:19:26,700 --> 01:19:28,800 because they understand the system. It's like, I'm not going 1234 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,190 in your probation or your pro, right, just under monitoring 1235 01:19:32,190 --> 01:19:34,710 report, another six years, and the more you test. 1236 01:19:36,930 --> 01:19:38,730 I'll just sit it out here. That's better. That's 1237 01:19:38,730 --> 01:19:39,510 interesting. 1238 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,740 Yeah, it is a real occurrence. But it's to get back to the 1239 01:19:43,740 --> 01:19:44,790 gang. Good news. Oh, go ahead. 1240 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,580 No, I was gonna say, just going back to the criminal justice 1241 01:19:47,580 --> 01:19:51,630 reform. A lot of that is early parole, early parole, early 1242 01:19:51,630 --> 01:19:56,400 parole, which, if I hear you correctly, in some percentage of 1243 01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:01,590 cases, maybe majority is actually the bad because that's 1244 01:20:01,590 --> 01:20:04,830 where you get the more testing more cases and it's, there's so 1245 01:20:04,830 --> 01:20:09,660 much risk without it. I don't know. It just seems like that's 1246 01:20:09,660 --> 01:20:11,370 where your recidivism comes from. 1247 01:20:11,730 --> 01:20:14,790 Well, yeah, cuz the old criminal justice system me like you do 10 1248 01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:18,240 Year 10 days in jail, pay your fine and you're done. But now 1249 01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,580 it's like, no, we're gonna give you two years probation. Okay, 1250 01:20:20,580 --> 01:20:24,240 so you're gonna give a 16 year old, two years of call it what 1251 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:31,050 it is monitoring OTG guy you're monitoring and say, Okay, if a 1252 01:20:31,050 --> 01:20:34,350 slip up, then we're going to hit them without stiffer penalty. 1253 01:20:34,380 --> 01:20:38,130 Yeah, yeah, I would rather go to jail for 10 days and just be 1254 01:20:38,130 --> 01:20:41,040 done with it. You know, if the law didn't affect my record, I 1255 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,320 mean, my long term record, I would just rather get it over 1256 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,500 with but this is the system. You know, it's there's no win in 1257 01:20:46,500 --> 01:20:47,070 this system. 1258 01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:49,800 Another thing you don't think about now, a good friend of mine 1259 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:56,520 did actually go to jail, and white collar crime. And he went 1260 01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:01,650 away for I think, 18 months. And so I got a real I'd never used 1261 01:21:02,460 --> 01:21:07,260 what is it called the pay message? JJ pay and J message 1262 01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:08,580 which is your the jail? 1263 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,490 I'll collect calls. Well, like call? Oh, yeah. But you have to 1264 01:21:12,570 --> 01:21:17,640 wait. You gotta send credits to him. And even to reply to a 1265 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,820 message. He didn't have any email. To reply to a message. I 1266 01:21:20,820 --> 01:21:24,990 had to give him credits, like $1 an email, a message, he could 1267 01:21:24,990 --> 01:21:29,010 send something back to me. And he would write to me and of 1268 01:21:29,010 --> 01:21:31,860 course, that would always arrive open and all that crap, but 1269 01:21:31,860 --> 01:21:37,650 forget that. His parole period. And the shackles that he has, 1270 01:21:38,490 --> 01:21:44,010 metaphorically speaking, are insane. And and this, it's, it's 1271 01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:48,090 been hard for him to get his life back together because he 1272 01:21:48,090 --> 01:21:54,870 was more on higher end. Because he was doing business stuff. No 1273 01:21:54,870 --> 01:21:57,480 one wants to do business with him. Because he's got a record 1274 01:21:57,510 --> 01:22:00,690 he got check the box. You got to check it. Check the box. That's 1275 01:22:00,690 --> 01:22:04,920 right. You can't raise money. He can't raise money through the 1276 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,040 traditional means because of the box. Yeah. So 1277 01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:11,220 let me let me have one quick aside before we continue with 1278 01:22:11,220 --> 01:22:16,440 this clip, about the box. I've known several people to not 1279 01:22:16,440 --> 01:22:21,180 check the box, show up to work, be great employees, some of the 1280 01:22:21,180 --> 01:22:23,520 best employees. I mean, when I was working, you know, and 1281 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:27,150 warehouses and things of that nature during college. And then 1282 01:22:27,150 --> 01:22:29,430 they come to find out they run their background check on him 1283 01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:33,390 and then they walk them out. But I'm like, oh, yeah, when it made 1284 01:22:33,390 --> 01:22:37,590 it in the door if he does check the box. Yeah. Now did you eat 1285 01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:41,310 proven himself to be reliable? Who probably more reliable than, 1286 01:22:41,310 --> 01:22:43,320 you know, people that didn't have that hanging over their 1287 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,920 head? And it's like, oh, no, you're a felon. You got to get 1288 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,130 him out of here. But you worked with this guy for two months. I 1289 01:22:50,130 --> 01:22:54,480 mean, he's a great guy. Now get him out of here. So this is the 1290 01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:59,520 system. This is the system. Yeah. Um, so let's just get back 1291 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,650 into the gangs in New York, part two boss, 1292 01:23:01,650 --> 01:23:05,910 tweed, William Marcy tweed, was himself a virus, Stockman grew 1293 01:23:05,910 --> 01:23:11,010 up in the side tenement, came up through the ranks and was in one 1294 01:23:11,010 --> 01:23:14,040 of the leading lights, if not the leading lights of Tammany 1295 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:17,700 Hall, he pulled the strings, they control the gangs, to the 1296 01:23:17,700 --> 01:23:21,630 degree that the gangs were an unofficial arm of enforcement. 1297 01:23:22,380 --> 01:23:26,100 The gangs were not officially on the city payroll, but certainly 1298 01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:29,280 some of the gangs function is that they effectively were on 1299 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,430 the city payroll, and they worked for whoever happened to 1300 01:23:32,430 --> 01:23:36,450 be wielding the most power. That's how gangs operate. You 1301 01:23:36,450 --> 01:23:40,560 know, besides protecting themselves in their turf, they 1302 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:46,170 are available for hire to whoever holds the club and and 1303 01:23:46,170 --> 01:23:49,920 since tweed, did he effectively hold control the games? 1304 01:23:53,250 --> 01:24:00,900 Once again, notice, Boss Tweed this alter ego. Yeah, you know, 1305 01:24:00,930 --> 01:24:03,390 he didn't go by his regular name. It was bald, I mean that 1306 01:24:03,390 --> 01:24:07,740 his name had to ring bells in the streets. And so you go by 1307 01:24:07,740 --> 01:24:10,290 this moniker and your moniker really gets bigger than you 1308 01:24:10,290 --> 01:24:13,860 know, saying your personality gets bigger, or the persona gets 1309 01:24:13,860 --> 01:24:16,980 bigger than who you really are. So I'm just I'm just wrapping it 1310 01:24:16,980 --> 01:24:19,560 up, like when you start when you start want to start pointing the 1311 01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:26,040 finger at black on black crime, hey, everybody in American had 1312 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:30,150 criminal elements in their so called race. So I mean, so this 1313 01:24:30,150 --> 01:24:32,670 chair with that, and um, I asked this question, I don't have an 1314 01:24:32,670 --> 01:24:36,210 answer to it. But it's black people just going through this 1315 01:24:36,210 --> 01:24:38,610 because we're delayed and we're going through our wild west 1316 01:24:38,610 --> 01:24:44,100 phase now. I'm asking I mean, it's it's a legitimate question, 1317 01:24:44,100 --> 01:24:49,380 right. I mean, because at some point you had, you know, the 1318 01:24:49,380 --> 01:24:52,530 McCoys and the Hatfields, you know, I mean, these things 1319 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,830 progressed, that they, you know, America became more civilized. 1320 01:24:55,950 --> 01:24:59,640 So I'm just wondering, is it a date that they delayed effect 1321 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,270 We're so called black people. I don't know. Okay. 1322 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,500 Well, let's, let's address it for a second because earlier, 1323 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,320 yes, well, when we when we played the the Gangs of New 1324 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,760 York, I mean, as far as I know, from the time period, there were 1325 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,980 no black people to be in the gang because they had other 1326 01:25:16,980 --> 01:25:23,010 jobs, quote, jobs. So that's why they weren't there. So it's 1327 01:25:23,010 --> 01:25:26,100 that's an interesting question, if that is a process of 1328 01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:30,630 maturation as as a human group, you know, as a few because 1329 01:25:30,660 --> 01:25:34,590 obviously, you know, you're a, you're a group of people, you 1330 01:25:34,590 --> 01:25:38,130 share a lot with everybody else, but shit, yeah, you got a big 1331 01:25:38,130 --> 01:25:41,430 delay on a lot of stuff. It's very possible. I mean, that's 1332 01:25:41,430 --> 01:25:44,520 something you need to ask. You know, like Brett Weinstein or 1333 01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:49,320 something, you know, some social social biologist guy, that's a 1334 01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,080 grit. Ooh, I almost said it, but it's a pretty good damn good 1335 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,610 question. I don't I don't know. 1336 01:25:53,940 --> 01:25:57,060 And who knows, we might be on our way to our own harvests or 1337 01:25:57,060 --> 01:25:58,200 yields like Columbia's 1338 01:25:58,710 --> 01:26:04,140 I'm out in China. And I find that the grandfather of Franklin 1339 01:26:04,140 --> 01:26:08,880 Delano Roosevelt, his name was Warren Delano was the opium king 1340 01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:13,440 of China. The fortune that Franklin Delano Roosevelt lived 1341 01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:18,660 off of custom made suits, nice houses, sailboats, vacations, 1342 01:26:18,660 --> 01:26:22,290 summer homes. He didn't make that money he inherited from 1343 01:26:22,290 --> 01:26:26,760 grandpa Warren Delano, the opium king of China, Cabot house at 1344 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:32,280 Harvard, opium Skull and Bones at Yale opium, the Law Library 1345 01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:36,540 at Columbia opium money. If you go on the Princeton website, at 1346 01:26:36,540 --> 01:26:39,570 least they're honest, they will admit that their first biggest 1347 01:26:39,570 --> 01:26:43,560 benefactor, John Green, was an opium dealer with Warren Delano. 1348 01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,790 So the book is full of surprises. I'll let you judge, 1349 01:26:47,940 --> 01:26:51,540 it didn't change my view about America so much. What it did is 1350 01:26:51,540 --> 01:26:54,060 changed my view about American historians. 1351 01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,080 I said my first all dope money to tell you when I first thought 1352 01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:07,080 when I heard that. So back to the maturation process. So let's 1353 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:11,280 just say you've got 50 years at least delay in in the modern 1354 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:16,950 gangster society, at least. So now you've got a new type of 1355 01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:22,470 opium. It's fentanyl. And maybe this is your time, this is your 1356 01:27:22,470 --> 01:27:27,120 time to build up big gear, big fentanyl empires. And the 1357 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:31,650 Chinese are feeding. problem, okay. 1358 01:27:32,730 --> 01:27:36,840 Guy, there's only one problem. There's no bottom for us to sell 1359 01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,020 to. We were the bottom for all those other 1360 01:27:41,340 --> 01:27:42,570 groups, right? 1361 01:27:44,370 --> 01:27:47,250 There's nobody behind us for us to sell to. So we sell to 1362 01:27:47,250 --> 01:27:49,890 ourselves. So we take money out of one pocket and put it into 1363 01:27:49,890 --> 01:27:54,270 the other pocket. On the same pair of pants. Yeah, that's 1364 01:27:54,270 --> 01:27:57,120 always happening, because I always allude back to this 1365 01:27:57,630 --> 01:28:02,580 pivotal scene and the godfather. And excuse me for saying this, 1366 01:28:02,580 --> 01:28:06,180 but you say keep it down there with the niggers? What do you 1367 01:28:06,180 --> 01:28:11,400 say? The same person who made the gangs in New York, Martin 1368 01:28:11,940 --> 01:28:20,280 Scorsese. So I'm just saying like that till they were at the 1369 01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:24,990 bottom. And and as I prove later in the show, black man is the 1370 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:26,970 odd the bottom of the bottom. 1371 01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:31,980 It hurts me when you say, that really hurts when you say that. 1372 01:28:31,980 --> 01:28:35,520 But I understand what you're saying in a generalization. 1373 01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:36,990 Absolutely. 1374 01:28:37,019 --> 01:28:40,619 So what I'm saying is this, I'm not saying it as a it's a 1375 01:28:40,619 --> 01:28:44,459 deficit. I'm just saying that this is the you know, prognosis. 1376 01:28:44,489 --> 01:28:47,309 It's like this is, you know, you're fighting for your life or 1377 01:28:47,309 --> 01:28:51,509 you know, whatever ailment. Now, can we win? Can we beat it? Of 1378 01:28:51,509 --> 01:28:54,929 course, we could be anything, but it's like you have to have 1379 01:28:54,929 --> 01:28:58,889 an accurate diagnosis of the problem before you can even 1380 01:28:58,889 --> 01:28:59,669 start to treat it. 1381 01:29:00,179 --> 01:29:04,319 And it is so accurate. When you look at what is happening today. 1382 01:29:04,349 --> 01:29:09,479 I asked Joe Rogan, I said name one black leader of one male 1383 01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:13,559 leader in black lives matter. Is there any is there any black 1384 01:29:13,559 --> 01:29:16,259 man, you know, who is leading the charge in any type of 1385 01:29:16,259 --> 01:29:20,489 movement at this moment? And he said, No, it's I don't even know 1386 01:29:20,489 --> 01:29:23,099 who Black Lives Matters. Leaders are saying, you know, colors in 1387 01:29:23,099 --> 01:29:26,699 the Okay. He kind of knew that. But yeah, he had to admit, I 1388 01:29:26,699 --> 01:29:31,649 said, that's the problem. That's the problem. That that's the 1389 01:29:31,649 --> 01:29:32,639 real victim here. 1390 01:29:33,300 --> 01:29:36,540 And MC solution is this conversation we're having here, 1391 01:29:36,540 --> 01:29:37,710 Adam. First, the 1392 01:29:37,710 --> 01:29:40,920 white man in the black men have to be able to sit down at the 1393 01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,220 same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind 1394 01:29:44,220 --> 01:29:46,980 without hurting the feelings of that negro. And the so called 1395 01:29:46,980 --> 01:29:50,010 Negro has to feel free to speak in the mind without hurting the 1396 01:29:50,010 --> 01:29:52,830 feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issue that 1397 01:29:52,830 --> 01:29:55,140 are under the rug out on top of the table and take an 1398 01:29:55,140 --> 01:29:57,660 intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only 1399 01:29:57,660 --> 01:29:58,890 way they'll ever do it. 1400 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,320 Phil. That's right. In the words of Malcolm X, that is the only 1401 01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,690 way we'll do it. And that's what we attempt to do every single 1402 01:30:06,690 --> 01:30:10,500 episode of moe facts with Adam curry. And as you notice, we 1403 01:30:10,500 --> 01:30:13,920 have no commercials and no commercial interest. That's the 1404 01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:18,000 antipathy of what we're all about, we probably wouldn't be 1405 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,810 able to survive that way anyway, because, well, there's a reason 1406 01:30:21,810 --> 01:30:25,050 why this conversation doesn't happen in mainstream media and 1407 01:30:25,050 --> 01:30:28,290 entertainment. And as you can tell, there's, it's actually 1408 01:30:28,290 --> 01:30:33,150 against the entire system to do this. 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No, he wants 1437 01:32:31,890 --> 01:32:38,790 to be d deadbeat it here we go I don't know what you what did 1438 01:32:38,790 --> 01:32:48,210 that do? What's this one? Okay, we haven't used I know I haven't 1439 01:32:48,210 --> 01:32:51,330 used these yet. I got it's the wrong color code. Here we go. 1440 01:32:53,760 --> 01:33:03,060 Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. You've got 1441 01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:15,960 you know, okay, now that I've tried them out, you know, all 1442 01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:19,530 new equipment, all new pieces of the show is new now that I 1443 01:33:19,530 --> 01:33:22,860 understand how they work. I think it'll be good. And that of 1444 01:33:22,860 --> 01:33:26,040 course, is our very own James identifer. Who, who did that for 1445 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:31,590 us? Thank you so much. Yes, sir. Calista Thank you. BTC bio $110 1446 01:33:31,590 --> 01:33:35,610 Love the podcast. Noah from Phoenix. David Keyes. $100. No 1447 01:33:35,610 --> 01:33:38,610 agenda. Mo facts are the two best podcasts in universe. Keep 1448 01:33:38,610 --> 01:33:42,810 it up. Gentlemen. Thank you so much, Chris. Maumee $100. Hello, 1449 01:33:42,810 --> 01:33:46,110 mon Adam from Cherry Valley, Massachusetts, listed in Episode 1450 01:33:46,110 --> 01:33:49,470 47 now and had to stop the show to donate. It's the way we love 1451 01:33:49,470 --> 01:33:53,070 it. By the way. The information we hear on show on your show is 1452 01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:56,880 invaluable. Both of us work full time and have a four year old 1453 01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,490 and there's no time to do the research and presentation you 1454 01:33:59,490 --> 01:34:03,240 provide. We've been discussing options over the past few days 1455 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,180 on what to do now that Massachusetts is mandating 1456 01:34:06,180 --> 01:34:11,760 vaccines. Yeah, especially with that for flu. And for the Rona. 1457 01:34:11,790 --> 01:34:15,300 Of course. After the research we've done heard on no agenda 1458 01:34:15,300 --> 01:34:19,530 and now your research on show 47 It almost feels criminal to let 1459 01:34:19,530 --> 01:34:22,680 them inject my son. We are considering a move to another 1460 01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:27,090 state or stay and have no daycare. It's just insane. Not a 1461 01:34:27,090 --> 01:34:30,090 happy shitless and thankfully, we have some sanity in our lives 1462 01:34:30,090 --> 01:34:34,020 with no facts, no agenda, Darren olio. And all the other podcasts 1463 01:34:34,020 --> 01:34:37,110 sprouted from the no agenda. Thank you very much sincerely, 1464 01:34:37,290 --> 01:34:40,860 Chris, mommy, and they're obviously you know, you're 1465 01:34:40,860 --> 01:34:44,310 responsible adults. You know, don't take any advice from us. I 1466 01:34:44,310 --> 01:34:48,210 don't think we gave any. But I'm very, very happy to see that 1467 01:34:48,210 --> 01:34:51,300 you're, you're researching and you're thinking about it. And 1468 01:34:51,300 --> 01:34:53,910 that's always a good thing. And thank you so much for supporting 1469 01:34:53,910 --> 01:34:59,970 us here on the show. $100 also an executive producer from a 1470 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,170 Anonymous from Parts Unknown. Thank you Jesse cruise comes in 1471 01:35:04,170 --> 01:35:08,970 with $100 Hey Michael and Scotty sir Jesse cruise here, he I 1472 01:35:08,970 --> 01:35:12,360 guess he has nicknames for us. I cancelled some only fan 1473 01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,300 subscriptions and I'm given some value for value. I don't want to 1474 01:35:15,300 --> 01:35:18,870 feel like a white NBA basketball player where the word ally on my 1475 01:35:18,870 --> 01:35:25,350 back. Was that who was that? Who was one of the heat I think who 1476 01:35:25,350 --> 01:35:27,090 had the ally in the one white guy. 1477 01:35:27,480 --> 01:35:32,850 Fill in the blank. It's a bunch of blank slot here. You take the 1478 01:35:32,850 --> 01:35:35,010 ally jersey, give Algerian to the white guy 1479 01:35:35,310 --> 01:35:39,240 is so messed up. It's like, No, this is wrong, man. All right, 1480 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,010 the ally, the ally hoodie. 1481 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,190 All right. So how about US producers working towards the 1482 01:35:44,190 --> 01:35:52,920 title of VCA this year? Most showed us me well, most showed 1483 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:57,150 us that it is what Boulais simply means Oh, oh, visor. Oh, 1484 01:35:57,150 --> 01:36:02,340 advisor, I think okay, an advisor to the king VCA. Now, we 1485 01:36:02,340 --> 01:36:05,910 got some levels coming up and a cool idea which we're not going 1486 01:36:05,910 --> 01:36:06,810 to talk about today. 1487 01:36:07,110 --> 01:36:11,010 We're I think we're rolling them out by 50. About maybe maybe 1488 01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:13,740 50s. Right. Tommy rolled it out. 1489 01:36:14,220 --> 01:36:15,840 We got some work to do mo 1490 01:36:17,190 --> 01:36:18,480 we got off on Yeah, 1491 01:36:19,019 --> 01:36:22,439 I know. But people got to understand, like, did for Chris 1492 01:36:22,469 --> 01:36:26,519 Chris Maumee and his family? Yeah, I'll just say it. Mo He's 1493 01:36:26,519 --> 01:36:30,809 got four cumin resources. You know, he's got it. He's got a 1494 01:36:30,809 --> 01:36:35,969 job. And you know, and I see the preparation he does is Yeah, 1495 01:36:36,569 --> 01:36:40,169 too. We there's a lot of work that goes into all this and 1496 01:36:40,169 --> 01:36:43,109 we're getting young trying to get the back office together. 1497 01:36:43,109 --> 01:36:46,829 And we and we still have to get the Pay Pal automatic 1498 01:36:47,429 --> 01:36:51,479 subscription donation setup. So and I've also been crazy doing 1499 01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,629 stuff, you know, the new podcasting 2.0 I gotta save our 1500 01:36:54,629 --> 01:37:01,379 asses. So we're working on it, but it took no agenda many years 1501 01:37:01,379 --> 01:37:03,629 to get our crap together. So at least we have 1502 01:37:04,110 --> 01:37:07,860 the beauty of it that everybody's seeing this. We had 1503 01:37:07,860 --> 01:37:11,820 no plan coming into this and I mean, each episode we don't have 1504 01:37:11,820 --> 01:37:16,650 a plan. It's just you're witnessing how something 1505 01:37:16,650 --> 01:37:19,620 naturally comes together. So going balls are gonna be 1506 01:37:19,620 --> 01:37:24,450 bruises, but just take you know, take joy in the fact that you're 1507 01:37:24,450 --> 01:37:30,060 witnessing something developed from from the very ground up. So 1508 01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:35,730 Exactly, exactly. And we also have to give Jessie crew some 1509 01:37:35,730 --> 01:37:37,800 goat mo karma so we can do that. 1510 01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:48,060 Adam Choi 100 ollars Hey mon Adam Morona mo am an immigrant 1511 01:37:48,060 --> 01:37:51,480 here from here for value for value rownum Oh is from Rogen 1512 01:37:51,480 --> 01:37:55,530 show to no agenda to mo facts? It is the the trifecta. It's 1513 01:37:55,530 --> 01:38:00,900 almost like shit was that to what is it Oscar Grammy? Emmy 1514 01:38:00,930 --> 01:38:03,750 Tony is EGOT isn't EGOT Yeah, I 1515 01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:04,830 think it's a guy Yeah, 1516 01:38:04,860 --> 01:38:09,150 yeah. So this is this is the podcast II got the Romo and Adam 1517 01:38:09,150 --> 01:38:13,410 show continues. I think we are blessed because this is a young 1518 01:38:13,410 --> 01:38:17,370 podcast. Each episode has a central theme or topic, and each 1519 01:38:17,370 --> 01:38:20,070 episode has an extensive and diverse collection of supporting 1520 01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:22,920 facts and evidence. Therefore I find it's been very easy and 1521 01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,680 interesting to listen to the older episodes as they have not 1522 01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:28,350 aged too much or become irrelevant. It will be very 1523 01:38:28,350 --> 01:38:31,320 difficult to listen to some older episodes of no agenda or 1524 01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:34,380 some Joe Rogan experience because the many of the 1525 01:38:34,380 --> 01:38:36,690 discussions are centered around current events and there are 1526 01:38:36,690 --> 01:38:39,630 1000s of episodes not hating but there are different types of 1527 01:38:39,630 --> 01:38:43,530 podcasts. That's true. That puts mo facts in a unique position 1528 01:38:43,530 --> 01:38:46,350 today. I'm excited for each for what each episode has to 1529 01:38:46,350 --> 01:38:49,530 deliver. Yes, it's a very important part of the format. A 1530 01:38:49,530 --> 01:38:52,320 producer dropped a Mark Twain quote in the killer Wasp 1531 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:56,580 episode, I would like to leave you to with to Mark Twain quotes 1532 01:38:56,580 --> 01:38:59,550 one originally attributed to grant Allen that I think is 1533 01:38:59,550 --> 01:39:02,940 extremely relevant in today's culture of indoctrination. 1534 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:05,280 Thanks Keep up the good work. Don't let your schooling 1535 01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:09,600 interfere with your education and education is what is left 1536 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:13,320 when you forgotten what you were taught. Yes, it was a great 1537 01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:17,100 quotes. Mo karma for all the listeners You bet. Absolutely. 1538 01:39:17,250 --> 01:39:17,970 That's a great one. 1539 01:39:25,500 --> 01:39:29,010 Martin Olson $100 as well and an executive producer as all the 1540 01:39:29,010 --> 01:39:31,530 rest we've mentioned so far on the Episode Sorry, it's been so 1541 01:39:31,530 --> 01:39:35,190 long since my last donation my previous job as a dude named Ben 1542 01:39:35,190 --> 01:39:39,270 was outsourced to India. And I needed to wait until I had 1543 01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:42,210 something new. I now have a new gig and I wanted to give back a 1544 01:39:42,210 --> 01:39:45,360 give big thanks to the quality product you've put out over the 1545 01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:48,450 past year. Thank you, Martin, and very happy that you got a 1546 01:39:48,450 --> 01:39:53,820 new gig. Excellent, excellent. Luis Wakefield $100 from her as 1547 01:39:53,820 --> 01:39:56,250 well. I'm so grateful for you guys and your rabbit holes, 1548 01:39:56,250 --> 01:40:00,000 rational minds and open hearts. It's so refreshing to feel like 1549 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,180 We're listening to people talk opening listening to you both 1550 01:40:03,330 --> 01:40:08,100 learn is a joy is the only way through this mess right? In the 1551 01:40:08,130 --> 01:40:14,100 famous words of Malcolm X here also with an executive or these 1552 01:40:14,130 --> 01:40:18,870 Associate Executive producers we have Thomas Kelly Tate was $76 1553 01:40:19,170 --> 01:40:23,160 Aragon fellows how's it going in New Zealand speak Aragorn 1554 01:40:23,190 --> 01:40:32,670 Paragon think greetings from Melbourne China there's so much 1555 01:40:32,670 --> 01:40:34,770 to say about what's happening in Victoria. 1556 01:40:36,690 --> 01:40:39,360 We started we were gonna say yeah, took 1557 01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,930 me a minute to it. Yeah, we're there. This show brought about 1558 01:40:42,930 --> 01:40:46,410 legit and profound shift in my thinking and I'm very gracious 1559 01:40:46,410 --> 01:40:48,720 for the tools to see things through a different lens 1560 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:53,430 Exactly. What said about class sparked thoughts about how the 1561 01:40:53,460 --> 01:40:57,240 native Maori in New Zealand are seen back home and how the crown 1562 01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:01,560 system fucked them royal royal Yeah, isn't that interesting? 1563 01:41:01,650 --> 01:41:06,330 How you can apply this to almost every country the same scenario 1564 01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:10,530 system is same system that's right. That's absolutely right. 1565 01:41:10,710 --> 01:41:14,130 And Black Lives Matter he's in the UK it's in the Netherlands 1566 01:41:14,130 --> 01:41:18,060 it's all over the world it's not the same problem but it's the 1567 01:41:18,060 --> 01:41:22,020 same system being applied sending you guys a cosmic love 1568 01:41:22,020 --> 01:41:25,050 offering from locked down give me a mo karma and if acceptable 1569 01:41:25,050 --> 01:41:29,220 a Barry Obama take that to the bank Hip Hop version. Do we have 1570 01:41:29,220 --> 01:41:29,640 that? 1571 01:41:30,630 --> 01:41:31,590 I don't think we do 1572 01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:40,050 it maybe that's something that I'm unaware of. Take that we 1573 01:41:40,050 --> 01:41:43,500 just you never know something sometimes strange had things 1574 01:41:43,500 --> 01:41:47,550 happen take that to the bank. I don't think there ever was a hip 1575 01:41:47,550 --> 01:41:50,580 hop version of it that we had you can take that to the bank 1576 01:41:50,610 --> 01:41:54,690 and got that part. So no, we won't if you haven't send it to 1577 01:41:54,690 --> 01:41:57,390 me because it's definitely something I need to also call 1578 01:41:57,390 --> 01:42:00,990 out my brother Harry Keller Tate. Yes, we have a we have a 1579 01:42:00,990 --> 01:42:09,750 special jingle for you. Harry Kelly Tate. First time we use 1580 01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:16,320 it. Nice feel shame. Shame. Shame. Oh, by the way, this is 1581 01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:21,240 about 76 bucks in dollar redos. Yes, 1582 01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:25,200 I got a thing we recognize the dollar dollar out is out dollar 1583 01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:25,860 right so 1584 01:42:25,860 --> 01:42:29,070 that actually means that he came in as an executive producer 1585 01:42:29,250 --> 01:42:33,540 since he Steve probably put a probably put $100 Reduce. 1586 01:42:34,140 --> 01:42:37,680 No, I actually I actually put him at 76 That's where he's at 1587 01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,560 right now. I understand you whatever you don't Oh, 1588 01:42:40,590 --> 01:42:46,110 yeah. But he's but he would have been 100 Australian so he 1589 01:42:46,110 --> 01:42:52,680 gave us 76 Australian dollars and Oh, whatever. Whatever we 1590 01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:56,610 value. Okay. Oh, that's nice. That's fantastic. 1591 01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,310 I love that Okay, so that's that we just say that that is the 1592 01:42:59,310 --> 01:43:02,190 value it's good because that's the way it's gonna go and we all 1593 01:43:02,190 --> 01:43:04,920 have to work with Bitcoin and Satoshi so it's good good to 1594 01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:08,400 learn that the apocalypse is coming you're gonna need a 1595 01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,940 Bitcoin did you need anything else here? Was there some other 1596 01:43:13,470 --> 01:43:15,180 yeah mo karma make sure we do that more 1597 01:43:15,870 --> 01:43:23,340 hip hop version but was that we have a new job a new jiegu But 1598 01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,070 we didn't have his hip hop version. So give me give him an 1599 01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:26,760 amazing 1600 01:43:27,180 --> 01:43:29,610 Oh yeah, hold on a second. I got the amazing and the others 1601 01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:36,900 amazing. I'm building up a whole system here. This is so good. I 1602 01:43:36,900 --> 01:43:39,780 love building up the show. It's so much fun. All right on with 1603 01:43:39,780 --> 01:43:46,290 our next SOC executive producer K are what do you think doing a 1604 01:43:46,290 --> 01:43:49,080 roundtable discussion on Joe Rogan show that analyzes the 1605 01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:53,190 stats and history of racial issues. I can think of a few 1606 01:43:53,190 --> 01:43:56,040 experts in personalities including you guys that would be 1607 01:43:56,070 --> 01:44:00,210 interesting to assemble for such a discussion. I'm concerned that 1608 01:44:00,210 --> 01:44:03,480 too many November voters will be voting based on incorrect stats 1609 01:44:03,480 --> 01:44:07,140 and incorrect history. You guys have the decency, power and 1610 01:44:07,140 --> 01:44:10,920 talent to ease racial tensions and educate America without 1611 01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:14,760 pushing any particular political goals or preferred politicians. 1612 01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:17,940 If this doesn't sound like a lame idea finer details of the 1613 01:44:17,940 --> 01:44:23,430 proposal are my email sent on August 31. Kr Thank you very 1614 01:44:23,430 --> 01:44:27,030 much and here's my thoughts on it and mochan let us know what 1615 01:44:27,030 --> 01:44:31,440 he thinks this so first of all, I love that the Malcolm the 1616 01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:35,430 Malcolm X quote is gonna take one white man and one black man 1617 01:44:35,460 --> 01:44:39,930 to sit down across the table. He doesn't say a group of white men 1618 01:44:39,930 --> 01:44:45,990 black No. This is it. This is the core This is it. This is the 1619 01:44:45,990 --> 01:44:50,100 core of this the mission if there was any mission, and I 1620 01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:55,410 love you know Dr. King with you know, I've seen the mountaintop 1621 01:44:56,130 --> 01:44:59,220 then judge not a man by the color of skin but by the by 1622 01:44:59,220 --> 01:45:02,670 advice character. But this is where this is where we got to do 1623 01:45:02,670 --> 01:45:08,250 the stuff. So this Hotep Jesus is another example of this. It's 1624 01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:13,560 no different and different. But what's interesting here is what 1625 01:45:13,740 --> 01:45:18,330 we don't talk about, necessarily the issues of the day. But how 1626 01:45:18,330 --> 01:45:21,270 we got here. And that's what's cool about it. 1627 01:45:22,019 --> 01:45:25,289 That's the whole point. Yeah. How do we how do we get no 1628 01:45:25,289 --> 01:45:29,489 peeling back the layer, leaf by leaf layer by layer to get how 1629 01:45:29,489 --> 01:45:35,129 we got here. And as you said before, it's a one on one thing, 1630 01:45:35,219 --> 01:45:39,299 it's not one size fit all you have to get to know the person 1631 01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:42,239 how can you judge them by the content of the character if you 1632 01:45:42,239 --> 01:45:43,229 don't know their character, 1633 01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,860 exactly, or their background or where they're coming from just 1634 01:45:46,860 --> 01:45:50,580 where they're coming from? Thanks, KR, another social 1635 01:45:50,580 --> 01:45:53,820 executive. Prusa donation, of course, these are from over two 1636 01:45:53,820 --> 01:45:56,760 weeks, and it's so appreciated that you've carried us over so 1637 01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,370 it's a little bit long, we've broken it up into two segments. 1638 01:45:59,790 --> 01:46:05,250 And we are at Joseph de Janiero, who got $75 as well, Mo and Adam 1639 01:46:05,250 --> 01:46:08,460 was catching up on old Episodes Episode Nine. One drop was the 1640 01:46:08,460 --> 01:46:12,870 title that reminded me of a colorism experience I saw while 1641 01:46:12,870 --> 01:46:16,410 working in New York to him and I worked with her black and had a 1642 01:46:16,410 --> 01:46:19,590 darker skin tone. I remember one of them would always make fun of 1643 01:46:19,590 --> 01:46:23,310 Drake, and now he and his music were light skin. Also when 1644 01:46:23,310 --> 01:46:26,310 either of them would excessively complain or whine the other 1645 01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:29,910 would tell him to stop acting like skin. I appreciate all you 1646 01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:33,120 guys have taught me so far found the show at episode 37 Can't 1647 01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:36,060 wait for what's in store for the rest of the back catalogue. I 1648 01:46:36,060 --> 01:46:38,250 thank you guys for keeping my amygdala small and all the 1649 01:46:38,250 --> 01:46:42,060 intentional misinformation from the M five M I don't know if 1650 01:46:42,060 --> 01:46:44,700 this is possible. I'd like to start the petition to get mo on 1651 01:46:44,700 --> 01:46:48,300 an agenda of Rogan would love to see this conversation Mo and Joe 1652 01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:52,830 would have let me tell you my mission is to get Moe to that 1653 01:46:52,830 --> 01:46:59,100 level and far beyond so I'm not targeting any any any way I 1654 01:46:59,100 --> 01:47:02,730 think if we do our work and we expose what we're doing and 1655 01:47:02,730 --> 01:47:05,610 producers do their work and expose and propagate let people 1656 01:47:05,610 --> 01:47:08,250 know about it everything's gonna fall into place exactly the way 1657 01:47:08,250 --> 01:47:12,540 it should. You want to respond to the light skin acting thing. 1658 01:47:13,500 --> 01:47:19,080 Just another form of the racial war. A lot of times you're gonna 1659 01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:23,100 find out the racial war is really a civil war. You don't 1660 01:47:23,100 --> 01:47:27,870 really have a lot of interracial war going on. It's really 1661 01:47:27,900 --> 01:47:35,640 interracial intro intro right? Yes, with a yes, exactly. David 1662 01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:38,250 roll is just another example of it is another example of 1663 01:47:38,250 --> 01:47:39,420 colorism Yeah, 1664 01:47:39,480 --> 01:47:42,720 it's exactly what it is. And it's everywhere. It's in so many 1665 01:47:42,750 --> 01:47:46,350 communities 75 Associate Executive Producer ship for 1666 01:47:46,350 --> 01:47:51,150 David roll 66 for Curtis Collins. Much love from Jen and 1667 01:47:51,150 --> 01:47:54,390 Kurt love the show doing the work. saves us from the killer 1668 01:47:54,390 --> 01:47:58,530 vaccine cognac King 2024 and Adam let's get a swamp thing 1669 01:47:58,530 --> 01:48:02,550 ice. Oh please rock and roll. Oh my goodness. That's pretty bad. 1670 01:48:02,610 --> 01:48:07,140 Okay, let's see if I do I have Do I have the Swamp Thing? I 1671 01:48:07,140 --> 01:48:12,000 don't think I have. Jeez, I do have that. What is this? Um, 1672 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:12,750 blato 1673 01:48:13,140 --> 01:48:15,900 I have the blog. The blog was really blog. 1674 01:48:17,670 --> 01:48:18,930 What is this? Maybe this isn't 1675 01:48:22,770 --> 01:48:26,700 this you see? I know you're not real man. Because I'm loaded. 1676 01:48:26,700 --> 01:48:31,050 Okay. I've had some experience in that area. Besides that whole 1677 01:48:31,050 --> 01:48:34,020 rap of yours is bull Anyway good evil. It's all the same crap. 1678 01:48:34,290 --> 01:48:37,740 Rock and roll is the only thing that counts dig hard ass 1679 01:48:37,770 --> 01:48:41,700 blistering awesome heavy metal rock and roll 1680 01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:52,380 that was from my huge acting career as Nathan the rock God on 1681 01:48:52,380 --> 01:48:53,220 Swamp Thing. 1682 01:48:55,980 --> 01:48:59,280 Inside moat a little moat inside baseball SWAT things scared the 1683 01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:00,450 crap out of me as a kid. 1684 01:49:02,490 --> 01:49:05,400 I can traumatize you with my episode is so good. 1685 01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:07,380 creeped me out. 1686 01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:13,530 Man, thank you very much Curtis $60 from Drake Biscardi from the 1687 01:49:13,530 --> 01:49:17,910 Davis dragon in the name of his smokin hot wife Amy. It's a 1688 01:49:17,910 --> 01:49:21,240 family affair. Revolving donation to come soon. Let us 1689 01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:24,240 know how Yes, that is getting done. This show is worth a hell 1690 01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:27,000 of a lot more than the damn Netflix donation I give every 1691 01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:31,530 month. Amen. Thank you dregs. Appreciate it. Sarah Gardner $56 1692 01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:35,700 opened my eyes Mo and belated birthday to Adam. Thank you. 1693 01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:42,930 We've got Timothy Pierce, love you to reside. Keep making the 1694 01:49:42,930 --> 01:49:48,780 word flesh. Okay. 5555 e indeed. Yes. And we have another 1695 01:49:48,780 --> 01:49:52,200 anonymous donation. 5334 mo I've been very impressed with the 1696 01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:55,320 work you and Mr. Curry put into the show. It is very thorough 1697 01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:58,860 and eye opening as to the race class and gender divide that is 1698 01:49:58,860 --> 01:50:03,660 US based As we know now, it's not just all US based, much of 1699 01:50:03,660 --> 01:50:06,780 it is eminently transferable to other shores. That's right. I 1700 01:50:06,780 --> 01:50:09,570 certainly noticed some crossover in Britain but our problems are 1701 01:50:09,570 --> 01:50:13,410 also different in subtle ways. I would like to plug a Carla's 1702 01:50:13,410 --> 01:50:17,070 book natives for those who want to understand the UK 1703 01:50:17,070 --> 01:50:19,890 imperialism. He's also an excellent speaker on many 1704 01:50:19,890 --> 01:50:22,860 subjects and is worth following. Being This is donated in 1705 01:50:22,860 --> 01:50:26,310 sterling I have no idea what the conversion of the donated amount 1706 01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:29,490 will end up at but Mr. Curry will be pleased to hear that a 1707 01:50:29,490 --> 01:50:32,370 proportion of this is provided by a value for value guitar 1708 01:50:32,370 --> 01:50:35,850 lesson I did under lock down. They're both pleased with that. 1709 01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:39,000 Anyway, I've sent you a very long email that was inspired by 1710 01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:43,020 episode nine, the subject that is ever present but not often 1711 01:50:43,020 --> 01:50:46,350 discussed in most all British media letter known elsewhere. I 1712 01:50:46,350 --> 01:50:50,850 will outline here just a teaser, which is Welsh not typically. 1713 01:50:54,090 --> 01:50:57,450 Which is no tea I guess. The knot was a piece of wood or 1714 01:50:57,450 --> 01:51:01,530 ruler or stick which was often inscribed with the letters w n. 1715 01:51:01,770 --> 01:51:04,440 This was given to the first pupil to be heard speaking 1716 01:51:04,440 --> 01:51:08,730 Welsh. When another child was heard using Welsh that not an OT 1717 01:51:08,910 --> 01:51:11,940 was taken from its current holder and given to the latest 1718 01:51:11,940 --> 01:51:14,670 defender, whoever was in possession of the knot was 1719 01:51:14,670 --> 01:51:17,100 encouraged to pass it on to any of their Welsh speaking 1720 01:51:17,100 --> 01:51:20,250 classmates by informing the teacher they had caught someone 1721 01:51:20,250 --> 01:51:23,490 else speaking Welsh, the pupil in possession at the end of the 1722 01:51:23,490 --> 01:51:27,300 day was subjected to corporal punishment or other penalty man, 1723 01:51:27,900 --> 01:51:32,250 the mind control is strong. This is crazy. Keep doing the Word. 1724 01:51:32,700 --> 01:51:36,240 Let me say something about the Welsh word that we live in 1725 01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:41,250 Wales. When I was flying in the UK I had a flight in Australia 1726 01:51:41,250 --> 01:51:44,640 and flight pilots you know anyone go with me more as a 1727 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:48,300 safety pilot because he knew the area which I like having a 1728 01:51:48,300 --> 01:51:51,060 safety pilot who's who knows the area and has been like an 1729 01:51:51,870 --> 01:51:55,950 airline Transportation Pilot and he says the one thing you got to 1730 01:51:55,950 --> 01:52:00,270 know here in the United Kingdom in Britain was that if you need 1731 01:52:00,270 --> 01:52:05,700 to make an emergency landing anywhere but Wales so that's 1732 01:52:05,700 --> 01:52:10,290 mine control has kept on going through through generations with 1733 01:52:10,290 --> 01:52:14,670 that kind of stuff. Keep doing the work. I look forward to 1734 01:52:14,670 --> 01:52:17,070 throwing more money your way when I had the resources jingo, 1735 01:52:17,070 --> 01:52:26,070 wise a good mo karma will be appreciated. Okay. All right. So 1736 01:52:26,070 --> 01:52:30,660 I will make sure that let me just say here and we have an 1737 01:52:30,690 --> 01:52:39,270 anonymous hold on second. Let me just set some time and we're 1738 01:52:39,270 --> 01:52:44,730 going to continue $53 from Andrew Jade. I should probably 1739 01:52:44,730 --> 01:52:48,630 wrap that last one up. And thank you again so thank you again so 1740 01:52:48,630 --> 01:52:53,850 much anonymous Andrew J. Jia net to who is another rownum Oh 1741 01:52:53,850 --> 01:52:56,640 listener Keep up the good work gentlemen. G Man The security 1742 01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:59,820 guy 53 Thank you so much. Eric cocoa, our buddy from 1743 01:52:59,820 --> 01:53:05,070 Deutschland. No note but 50 to Deutsche Marks, euros. Thank you 1744 01:53:05,070 --> 01:53:09,660 so much, Eric 5150 which as we know is the code for take him 1745 01:53:09,660 --> 01:53:13,620 away when the white suits Harvey Smith mo great education. Thank 1746 01:53:13,620 --> 01:53:17,220 you. And then our $50 donors also the Associate Executive 1747 01:53:17,220 --> 01:53:24,240 producers for episode 48 Cassidy Eastwood no note gar lien 1748 01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:28,200 Copeland this show is a life cast not a podcast, Moe and Adam 1749 01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:31,350 break it down for all to understand yet enjoy. My 1750 01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:36,630 favorite episodes were 4450 45 and 46. It is a set it Could you 1751 01:53:36,630 --> 01:53:40,230 could you could have this set of the President's in a leather 1752 01:53:40,230 --> 01:53:46,200 bound handsome leather bound box. This is my first time 1753 01:53:46,230 --> 01:53:52,290 oh no, no, no, no, no and Na Na renewable reusable tote to carry 1754 01:53:52,290 --> 01:53:53,550 your vegan Kale 1755 01:53:55,500 --> 01:54:00,750 with your bamboo straw, not condemning just laughing at you. 1756 01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:05,610 This is my first time donating Carlene says $50 on my way to be 1757 01:54:05,610 --> 01:54:09,780 a lady or a duchess. Well, we will have new names here. But we 1758 01:54:09,780 --> 01:54:11,970 look forward to that we will have something for you. For 1759 01:54:11,970 --> 01:54:14,880 sure. Keep up the excellent work guys. I'd like to mow karma for 1760 01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:16,380 all the course we got that for you. 1761 01:54:17,190 --> 01:54:17,970 You've got 1762 01:54:20,100 --> 01:54:21,360 to want to make sure I gotta 1763 01:54:23,340 --> 01:54:26,520 I gotta mow karma for our anonymous previously. So just I 1764 01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:27,840 can't remember if I did that. 1765 01:54:27,900 --> 01:54:28,620 You've got 1766 01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:36,210 so much administration, that Kenneth Barnhouse not always 1767 01:54:36,210 --> 01:54:40,650 what I think, but always makes me think. Thank you, Kenneth. 1768 01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:45,420 That's very nice, the way you said that. Lindsey Heitmann $50 1769 01:54:45,420 --> 01:54:47,910 Mo and Adam, thank you for talking about the mental health 1770 01:54:47,910 --> 01:54:51,330 shaming of Kanye. As someone with mental health problems 1771 01:54:51,330 --> 01:54:54,120 watching that play out in the media. It reinforced every 1772 01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:57,480 negative stereotype I've had of myself, sidenote, there's 1773 01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:00,180 research that shows people with some mental health issues Make 1774 01:55:00,180 --> 01:55:04,020 better crisis leaders. 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And those are our 1837 01:59:15,090 --> 01:59:18,690 associate and executive producers Associate Executive 1838 01:59:18,690 --> 01:59:22,080 Producer, the executive producers for episode 48 of Mo 1839 01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:25,650 facts. With Adam curry, we will be back with more people who 1840 01:59:25,650 --> 01:59:29,550 came in under the $50 level. But first reminder that you can 1841 01:59:29,550 --> 01:59:33,360 support us by going to Mote facts.com or directly to the 1842 01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:39,030 donation page at MoeFundMe.com moefundme.com. 1843 01:59:40,860 --> 01:59:45,930 Now we have to get into the mindset. And the system that we 1844 01:59:45,930 --> 01:59:49,650 referred to earlier that's being played on so called black 1845 01:59:49,650 --> 01:59:54,420 people. So there's this very popular YouTuber called Daisy 1846 01:59:54,450 --> 01:59:58,560 and Noah and he speaks about this phenomenon and reliving 1847 01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:00,930 2016 and Jacob Blake, 1848 02:00:01,380 --> 02:00:05,100 let's break down the confabulations here. First and 1849 02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:09,810 foremost, in order for blacks to have a respected voice, we must 1850 02:00:09,810 --> 02:00:13,110 demonstrate a balanced and unconditional concern for our 1851 02:00:13,110 --> 02:00:17,520 community. As a group, it has miserably failed at this 1852 02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:22,680 required step. How? Well let's focus on the word unconditional. 1853 02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:28,230 We seem to only have rage against injustice under specific 1854 02:00:28,230 --> 02:00:34,380 conditions. These are if a non black or white action violates a 1855 02:00:34,380 --> 02:00:40,170 black body, though we by habit, tend to ignore when we violate 1856 02:00:40,170 --> 02:00:46,980 our own. There was a curse of MDD between a spiritually and an 1857 02:00:46,980 --> 02:00:52,200 engineer to psychological trauma induced systemically but that 1858 02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:56,490 life shall hang in doubt before thee, and thou shalt fear day 1859 02:00:56,490 --> 02:01:02,190 and night, and shall have none assurance of that life. See, 1860 02:01:02,190 --> 02:01:05,580 blacks have become an astonishment, a proverb, and a 1861 02:01:05,580 --> 02:01:10,680 byword. Blackness is bought and sold as a product. 1862 02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:15,780 generationally, our culture has been and continues to be 1863 02:01:15,780 --> 02:01:21,120 formulated through the establishment media machine. And 1864 02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:23,970 visuals of cops killing blacks is just part of the 1865 02:01:23,970 --> 02:01:28,470 psychological traumatization, which in turn, produces a black 1866 02:01:28,470 --> 02:01:32,550 victimhood and perpetuates a state of generational 1867 02:01:32,550 --> 02:01:33,660 victimization. 1868 02:01:34,650 --> 02:01:38,280 I think I've seen this guy maybe the the Twitter algo through me 1869 02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:40,530 that or something, tell me again, with the YouTube channel, 1870 02:01:40,530 --> 02:01:42,300 I want to make sure we have that in the show notes 1871 02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:53,040 days and over this is d A yz. of Noah is no Ah, okay. Very, very 1872 02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:58,500 deep brother, um, has a master's degree in sociology, that 1873 02:01:58,500 --> 02:02:00,840 doesn't matter what his credentials are. But just to 1874 02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:03,630 make sure that people take him seriously. Because when you say 1875 02:02:03,630 --> 02:02:07,350 YouTuber that smacks of a certain Yes, it's 1876 02:02:07,350 --> 02:02:09,240 only a little better than podcaster. 1877 02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:13,890 Right? So they want to put you in a box. But you have very 1878 02:02:13,890 --> 02:02:16,530 serious people, as you're going to hear later in this episode on 1879 02:02:16,530 --> 02:02:19,770 YouTube making a case for the young black male and the black 1880 02:02:19,770 --> 02:02:23,430 male in general. Yes. And as he stayed in here, the only time as 1881 02:02:23,430 --> 02:02:26,700 far as alluding to before, the only time it really matters is 1882 02:02:26,700 --> 02:02:31,080 when it's semi of non black descent, kills a black person. 1883 02:02:31,590 --> 02:02:36,060 So we had to be unconditional with this. So now we get to the 1884 02:02:36,060 --> 02:02:40,230 portion of the show where Yeah, what about black on black crime, 1885 02:02:40,260 --> 02:02:43,950 because that mean that is coming from people like him myself, 1886 02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:47,310 that are serious about having that conversation, not using it 1887 02:02:47,310 --> 02:02:51,060 as a tool of deflection, we really have to look at what's 1888 02:02:51,060 --> 02:02:56,580 going on here. So he, like he broke it down, he was like that. 1889 02:02:58,290 --> 02:03:04,080 Basically, the trauma of fees and to making us victims, the 1890 02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:09,150 victim hood feeds into devaluing our life. And then it results 1891 02:03:09,150 --> 02:03:13,530 into a devalue life. sees another person as devalue live, 1892 02:03:13,530 --> 02:03:17,820 like we saw in juice, saying, I'm not it. You're saying you're 1893 02:03:17,820 --> 02:03:22,470 less than me, you know, so I can take you out anytime. That's 1894 02:03:22,470 --> 02:03:26,580 that's the cycle. And this is why you see over and over again, 1895 02:03:27,750 --> 02:03:30,870 black young black man callously taking other young black man's 1896 02:03:30,870 --> 02:03:34,440 lives. So I mean, it is realization and we spot it the 1897 02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:38,010 system. Now is us bringing attention to this system that 1898 02:03:38,040 --> 02:03:41,700 that's been identified. So now we I'm speaking of Jews, he 1899 02:03:41,700 --> 02:03:44,280 makes a reference to that as well. And this next clip, 1900 02:03:44,790 --> 02:03:48,480 oh, but you blacks keep killing other blacks. Why don't you ever 1901 02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:53,310 address that? We hear that all the time. Though this is true. 1902 02:03:53,490 --> 02:03:59,520 And one of my personal arguments as well, I understand why, and 1903 02:03:59,700 --> 02:04:06,630 this Why is rarely addressed. So let's address it. Let's put this 1904 02:04:06,630 --> 02:04:11,850 argument to bed for good. With three words. Pathological 1905 02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:18,450 generational desensitization. See two generations of socially 1906 02:04:18,450 --> 02:04:23,250 pitting blacks against blacks through pigmentation, class and 1907 02:04:23,310 --> 02:04:29,100 phenotype. A self hatred is psychologically created. If you 1908 02:04:29,100 --> 02:04:33,780 hate yourself, you will hate your brother and your sister. In 1909 02:04:33,780 --> 02:04:38,550 addition to this internal abuse, externally, blacks have become 1910 02:04:38,550 --> 02:04:42,780 desensitized to killing other blacks through a strategic and 1911 02:04:42,780 --> 02:04:47,940 ubiquitous debased death culture, a culture of death 1912 02:04:48,870 --> 02:04:56,160 where murder and intercultural conflict is glorified. If you 1913 02:04:56,160 --> 02:05:00,720 got the juice you get the respect Yeah. 1914 02:05:02,070 --> 02:05:07,410 She he said it's a generational thing it no is constant 1915 02:05:07,410 --> 02:05:17,520 generational desensitization Yeah. It I made a loss for words 1916 02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:23,010 because here we are, you have young black man down in the 1917 02:05:23,010 --> 02:05:25,980 street, nobody really cares except for how they can extract 1918 02:05:25,980 --> 02:05:29,610 it and use it for currency to push their their own narrative 1919 02:05:29,610 --> 02:05:34,620 and causes if they died in the right way. And as and Exactly. 1920 02:05:34,830 --> 02:05:40,170 And as he said, as the producer wrote in the letter, you hear 1921 02:05:40,170 --> 02:05:42,630 people say, Oh, you're light skinned, you know you're acting 1922 02:05:42,630 --> 02:05:48,120 light skinned. So you have all these different fractures and 1923 02:05:48,270 --> 02:05:51,540 battling points, you know, you're light skinned, you're 1924 02:05:51,540 --> 02:05:54,060 dark skinned, you're dark skinned, black is ugly, you 1925 02:05:54,060 --> 02:05:57,000 know, this is within the race, we, we haven't even stepped 1926 02:05:57,000 --> 02:06:00,540 outside and start talking about inter racial relationships. This 1927 02:06:00,540 --> 02:06:05,370 is our intro. And this is what devalues the you know, devalues 1928 02:06:05,370 --> 02:06:10,740 black life in itself. And if you notice, Black Lives Matter, 1929 02:06:10,740 --> 02:06:15,450 don't say black people matter. Or black men matter is black 1930 02:06:15,450 --> 02:06:20,370 lives lives is a product now. It's a product, it's just like 1931 02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:25,650 MLK or anything else. You know, how does it impact black lives? 1932 02:06:25,650 --> 02:06:29,160 I mean, no, how does it impact impact humans people, you know, 1933 02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:32,340 but they don't they want to dehumanize them for their own 1934 02:06:32,790 --> 02:06:37,050 own purposes. And like I said, we'll get to that later. It's 1935 02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:40,950 it's a very subtly, but it's a very sophisticated productize 1936 02:06:40,950 --> 02:06:41,460 ation. 1937 02:06:43,890 --> 02:06:46,050 Yeah, cuz Who are we talking about? We save lives? I mean, 1938 02:06:46,050 --> 02:06:50,100 you can. We are even we even heard them say when they talked 1939 02:06:50,100 --> 02:06:52,590 about what they're trying to change at their tech talks a 1940 02:06:52,590 --> 02:06:55,350 while back in a few shows. I mean, like that early on in the 1941 02:06:55,350 --> 02:06:59,640 making of the show, they went off on global warming and all 1942 02:06:59,640 --> 02:07:02,550 these other things, but never said black men. Never. And I 1943 02:07:02,550 --> 02:07:03,840 know I'm harping on black men. 1944 02:07:04,620 --> 02:07:07,650 But I want to thank you, thank you again, because this because 1945 02:07:07,650 --> 02:07:10,260 it's something that's so bothersome about black lives 1946 02:07:10,260 --> 02:07:17,790 matter. It is actually a deep, generative generalization that 1947 02:07:17,790 --> 02:07:21,420 black people would have, of course, that somehow would be 1948 02:07:21,420 --> 02:07:27,120 racist, I'm sure. But they'd never it's dehumanized by Satan. 1949 02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:31,110 Because what are the other? You know, it's like, so many lives 1950 02:07:31,110 --> 02:07:37,020 were lost on the good ship. Titanic. You know, it's like, it 1951 02:07:37,020 --> 02:07:39,810 doesn't really personalize it in any way. 1952 02:07:40,890 --> 02:07:43,890 And what it also does when they say black lives matter, you can 1953 02:07:43,890 --> 02:07:48,060 move the goalposts because yeah, we brought you it's like, what's 1954 02:07:48,060 --> 02:07:52,440 it called the loss leader? Let me enter the loss leader. Doors. 1955 02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:55,830 Oh, yeah. Come on in. Now, let's talk about trans lives. And 1956 02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:59,700 let's talk about how global warming affects people of color. 1957 02:07:59,700 --> 02:08:04,470 And you know, it gets you in the door. Shift. What lobs mean, 1958 02:08:04,980 --> 02:08:06,180 what are you talking about? 1959 02:08:06,270 --> 02:08:09,300 That's very impressive, very important point. That's a very 1960 02:08:09,300 --> 02:08:09,990 important point. 1961 02:08:12,180 --> 02:08:17,730 Because staring you right in the middle is, as you think about 1962 02:08:17,730 --> 02:08:23,670 it. Yeah, and I understand, and that's what's so frustrating for 1963 02:08:23,670 --> 02:08:27,690 black man. It's like, do y'all not understand. But now when it 1964 02:08:27,690 --> 02:08:30,300 starts to affect other demographics, people start 1965 02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:34,080 realizing like, wow, you know, or we start to get a voice 1966 02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:38,520 because what happened is here, before with the Boulais, they 1967 02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:42,210 could pick who they want to talk for us, right? But now, when you 1968 02:08:42,210 --> 02:08:45,660 bring up this top topic of black on black crime, and death for 1969 02:08:45,660 --> 02:08:48,690 black men and things of that nature, you have people like 1970 02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:51,450 days, and no other gentleman that we played on the show, even 1971 02:08:51,450 --> 02:08:54,210 myself, say, no, no, no, no, you're not going to control the 1972 02:08:54,210 --> 02:08:58,110 narrative about us. We're gonna control this narrative. That's 1973 02:08:58,110 --> 02:09:01,320 what caused the political fraction. And the Democratic 1974 02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:04,680 Party are the black voting Democrats, because black men say 1975 02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:07,650 no, if it doesn't address us, we're not for it. You know, 1976 02:09:07,650 --> 02:09:10,050 usually they just tell us to shut up and vote. I mean, you 1977 02:09:10,050 --> 02:09:14,250 heard people saying those little words of shut up and vote. But 1978 02:09:14,250 --> 02:09:16,980 now we're saying No, unless it address us, unless it's 1979 02:09:16,980 --> 02:09:19,770 tangible. Unless you have a tangible way you can drive down 1980 02:09:19,770 --> 02:09:23,580 the number of lives lost. We will take it from here. We'll 1981 02:09:23,580 --> 02:09:24,450 talk for ourselves. 1982 02:09:24,750 --> 02:09:28,290 I think it's live. It's live saved or created, I believe is 1983 02:09:28,290 --> 02:09:36,960 the term jobs. Live saved created? Yes. That's how 1984 02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:42,000 politicians measure stuff. Yeah, yeah, that is good. But just so 1985 02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:44,280 you know, because and of course, you know, but I want to 1986 02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:47,700 reiterate it. Right. So black men are saying, Why don't they 1987 02:09:47,700 --> 02:09:52,380 see what's going on? Because we literally didn't, because we 1988 02:09:52,380 --> 02:09:54,750 were all wrapped up on our own shit, obviously. 1989 02:09:55,410 --> 02:10:00,120 And all fairness, the people doing the speaking and stuff Are 1990 02:10:00,120 --> 02:10:05,970 those rooms? Oh, we're not allies to us black men? No, of 1991 02:10:05,970 --> 02:10:10,110 course not. Even though they share the same pigment and 1992 02:10:10,110 --> 02:10:14,400 melanin in their skin, it's like we're gonna for our agenda 1993 02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:18,120 first, you know, we have a, we have an opportunity here. And 1994 02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:20,580 just to foreshadow a little bit, we saw this with the VP 1995 02:10:20,580 --> 02:10:24,180 selection. It wasn't about stopping black man get killed, 1996 02:10:24,270 --> 02:10:26,130 you know, I mean, it was like, We want a black female 1997 02:10:26,130 --> 02:10:30,390 president. I mean, Vice President Excuse me. But we'll 1998 02:10:30,390 --> 02:10:33,840 get to we'll get there. But let's let days and No, no, we'll 1999 02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:36,720 finish up speaking on creating culture. 2000 02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:43,470 See, decades, upon decades of this type of detrimental 2001 02:10:43,470 --> 02:10:47,730 programming has rendered the black culture into a zealous or 2002 02:10:47,730 --> 02:10:56,040 a Boris taking pride in eating its own tail. This is why it's 2003 02:10:56,040 --> 02:11:00,690 so easy for blacks to kill blacks and not feel injustice. 2004 02:11:01,290 --> 02:11:04,320 Because for decades, black on black conflict has been 2005 02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:08,880 justified through establishment controlled media, major motion 2006 02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:14,220 pictures, and the music industry. We can always refer 2007 02:11:14,220 --> 02:11:18,360 back to our studies on Plato, our studies on Aldous Huxley and 2008 02:11:18,360 --> 02:11:22,890 many others in their focus on how music alone has a spiritual 2009 02:11:22,890 --> 02:11:26,010 power and can literally condition the spirit and the 2010 02:11:26,010 --> 02:11:31,710 mind through sound. And melody. These things aren't to be 2011 02:11:31,710 --> 02:11:35,700 debated. This is why the music industry is so heavily utilized 2012 02:11:36,150 --> 02:11:42,900 to socially engineer the public and create culture single 2013 02:11:42,900 --> 02:11:43,530 handedly 2014 02:11:45,090 --> 02:11:47,430 he's good guys good I like him but 2015 02:11:48,150 --> 02:11:52,800 there you have it. They've used culture or so called culture I 2016 02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:55,710 mean it's a very toxic it really is a culture a death and I'm 2017 02:11:55,710 --> 02:11:59,100 gonna say this is a cult a death. Let me let me correct 2018 02:11:59,100 --> 02:12:05,370 that. Because Kali Ma, remember thugs come from Dougie. Dougie 2019 02:12:05,370 --> 02:12:09,840 comes from India, which was a cult that worshipped Kali Ma, 2020 02:12:10,740 --> 02:12:13,560 which was the destroyer, God or God is however you want to look 2021 02:12:13,560 --> 02:12:18,300 at it. And this death cult continues on now you have black 2022 02:12:18,300 --> 02:12:24,570 men call themselves thugs and they kill their death cult, 2023 02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:27,690 because that's all they're taught through music film. I 2024 02:12:27,690 --> 02:12:30,600 mean, we would dress to hear juice, hip hop. I mean, we've 2025 02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:33,120 addressed all of this, but I know you people are saying well, 2026 02:12:33,420 --> 02:12:38,250 as a YouTuber mo ii, your YouTuber too. So let's go to the 2027 02:12:38,250 --> 02:12:42,720 real serious people in the field. His next set of clips is 2028 02:12:42,720 --> 02:12:45,210 from Tom Burrell. I don't know if you ever heard of him and I 2029 02:12:45,930 --> 02:12:50,700 promise you you have but I'm not sure if you I think? Yes, I 2030 02:12:50,700 --> 02:12:52,500 think so. Big Bad guy. 2031 02:12:53,580 --> 02:12:56,520 Yes, I know exactly. You mean of course. Yeah. 2032 02:12:56,610 --> 02:13:01,080 He is Thomas J. Burrell, the founder and chairman emeritus of 2033 02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:04,590 a rail communications group, one of the first black owned and 2034 02:13:04,590 --> 02:13:09,630 operated advertising firms in the country, started in 1971. to 2035 02:13:09,630 --> 02:13:13,140 target the african american market for rail Communications 2036 02:13:13,140 --> 02:13:16,680 has conducted advertising campaigns for such major brands 2037 02:13:16,710 --> 02:13:20,790 as Marlboro, McDonald's, Coca Cola, Johnson products and 2038 02:13:20,790 --> 02:13:24,090 Verizon, and helped revolutionize the image of 2039 02:13:24,090 --> 02:13:27,960 African Americans in television advertising. He was inducted 2040 02:13:27,960 --> 02:13:32,130 into the American advertising Federation Hall of Fame in 2005. 2041 02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:35,850 And since retiring from Burrell communications, he has used the 2042 02:13:35,850 --> 02:13:39,810 information he acquired during his 45 years in the advertising 2043 02:13:39,810 --> 02:13:43,500 business to address some of the major challenges facing African 2044 02:13:43,500 --> 02:13:44,610 Americans today. 2045 02:13:45,060 --> 02:13:52,200 Yes, I remember the agency Burrell McBain that was that was 2046 02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:57,300 the agency that was this famous famous agency and they were 2047 02:13:57,300 --> 02:14:00,210 actually competitor to my company at the time because we 2048 02:14:00,210 --> 02:14:06,120 were with Omni calm. And they sold to publicists. Yes. A 2049 02:14:06,540 --> 02:14:08,880 legend a legend in advertising. 2050 02:14:09,210 --> 02:14:15,900 Click clear winner. Ah, he won a clear thing back in 77. With a 2051 02:14:15,900 --> 02:14:16,770 McDonald's spot with 2052 02:14:17,519 --> 02:14:20,429 McDonald's he sold McDonald's That's right. That's right. 2053 02:14:20,429 --> 02:14:20,969 Remember that? 2054 02:14:21,330 --> 02:14:27,900 Which makes me look at him sad. I mean, my Boulais Oh meter. I 2055 02:14:27,900 --> 02:14:33,210 got it all fired up. But when I started to look into the 2056 02:14:33,210 --> 02:14:37,320 Burrell, um, advertisement on the community, excuse me and 2057 02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:41,490 communications. They did an ad for McDonald's recently. It was 2058 02:14:41,490 --> 02:14:44,730 called the good fight. And instead the spot featured a real 2059 02:14:44,730 --> 02:14:49,500 life boxing coach and his daughter. As he literally puts 2060 02:14:49,500 --> 02:14:52,680 her through the paces with the message that better does not 2061 02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:56,910 happen overnight. And it goes on down and said this but it says 2062 02:14:57,090 --> 02:15:00,000 at the parallel McDonald took their classic chicken nuggets. 2063 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,750 to the next level by taking out artificial flavors, colors and 2064 02:15:03,750 --> 02:15:08,550 preservatives. It says the Spa also aired on the 2016 Olympics 2065 02:15:08,610 --> 02:15:13,410 and Rio missed the black girl magic. So here we have it. We 2066 02:15:13,410 --> 02:15:16,920 can't have a black father and a black son going through the 2067 02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:21,180 paces. Also questioning him like okay, for 45 years, you sold 2068 02:15:21,180 --> 02:15:25,620 these little nuggets with artificial flavoring and 2069 02:15:25,620 --> 02:15:28,080 coloring in it. So I'm just saying I'm just, I gotta be 2070 02:15:28,080 --> 02:15:30,750 fair, when I when I look at that, look at these people. 2071 02:15:31,230 --> 02:15:34,680 Well, we're gonna let him speak. And he has some valid points to 2072 02:15:34,680 --> 02:15:39,690 make one being on the false advertisement of race. That's 2073 02:15:39,690 --> 02:15:39,780 the 2074 02:15:39,780 --> 02:15:43,680 topic of his new book, brainwashed, challenging the 2075 02:15:43,680 --> 02:15:47,730 myth of black inferiority, which was recently published by smiley 2076 02:15:47,730 --> 02:15:53,490 books. Welcome. Good to be here. Sure. Tom, in your book, you try 2077 02:15:53,490 --> 02:15:56,880 to answer a question that has bedeviled many people before 2078 02:15:56,880 --> 02:16:01,350 you. Which is why do African Americans continue to lag behind 2079 02:16:01,380 --> 02:16:05,250 other groups in so many aspects of American life? And your 2080 02:16:05,250 --> 02:16:10,110 conclusion is an intriguing one, that a 400 year old marketing 2081 02:16:10,110 --> 02:16:13,470 campaign to promote white superiority and black 2082 02:16:13,470 --> 02:16:18,420 inferiority has resulted in a deep seated internalized black 2083 02:16:18,420 --> 02:16:22,080 inferiority complex that is keeping African Americans from 2084 02:16:22,080 --> 02:16:25,800 achieving many of their goals. This is the brainwashing you're 2085 02:16:25,800 --> 02:16:26,880 talking about in your book. 2086 02:16:26,910 --> 02:16:32,850 Yes, sure, all. America has been sold a bill of goods through 2087 02:16:32,850 --> 02:16:38,940 false advertising. The Myth of black inferiority, The Big Lie, 2088 02:16:39,480 --> 02:16:45,810 that there is an inherent inferiority that exist within a 2089 02:16:45,810 --> 02:16:50,340 race of people. That is something that has been created 2090 02:16:50,370 --> 02:16:55,320 in order to justify originally justify slavery within their 2091 02:16:55,320 --> 02:17:01,890 democracy. And we see it borne out every day, from morning till 2092 02:17:01,890 --> 02:17:07,080 night. Throughout our media media is the major carrier of 2093 02:17:07,080 --> 02:17:09,660 the message. That media is the message. 2094 02:17:10,740 --> 02:17:15,090 Oh, hey, wait a minute, is he flip flopping? Now? What's he 2095 02:17:15,090 --> 02:17:17,970 doing? He's like, Hey, by the way, all that stuff, all that 2096 02:17:17,970 --> 02:17:21,540 stuff I did. That was really by it. And someone else did it. I 2097 02:17:21,540 --> 02:17:22,110 guess. 2098 02:17:23,309 --> 02:17:27,359 Now he went, Okay, let me explain to you. Let me grab my 2099 02:17:27,359 --> 02:17:29,999 bull a cat back here. All right. 2100 02:17:32,580 --> 02:17:34,050 Right, okay. All right. Wow, 2101 02:17:34,410 --> 02:17:36,780 I got it. You look so powerful, right? 2102 02:17:37,110 --> 02:17:39,960 He looks so powerful. Mr. Mobley, 2103 02:17:40,020 --> 02:17:44,370 thank you. Thank you. Um, what the Boulais tries to do here is 2104 02:17:44,370 --> 02:17:49,110 that the 45 years of aiding and abetting the system that we 2105 02:17:49,110 --> 02:17:52,380 spoke about, which, let's be honest, here, white supremacy, 2106 02:17:52,410 --> 02:17:57,870 as we define on this show, the system at the 40 values of 2107 02:17:57,990 --> 02:18:02,100 supporting aiding and abetting it, and even though what she 2108 02:18:02,100 --> 02:18:05,100 said in his bio revolutionizing how blacks have seen an 2109 02:18:05,100 --> 02:18:07,770 advertisement, not even say positive, negative, but he just 2110 02:18:07,770 --> 02:18:08,580 revolutionized it. 2111 02:18:09,600 --> 02:18:12,930 So the census is revolutionizing either way. Sure. 2112 02:18:13,410 --> 02:18:15,810 Right, right. Either way, he didn't, he didn't really say, 2113 02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:16,890 trying to 2114 02:18:16,889 --> 02:18:21,059 do that. That bleh had on keep keep the Boulay head on. Yeah. 2115 02:18:21,059 --> 02:18:28,019 So what I have to do is say this. See, Adam, my children are 2116 02:18:28,169 --> 02:18:31,079 don't suffer from the black inferiority complex you see 2117 02:18:31,079 --> 02:18:34,109 here. So I want to point out, they're different than those 2118 02:18:34,110 --> 02:18:36,960 common black folks. Okay. I got it. 2119 02:18:36,990 --> 02:18:41,640 And so I had to do this sweet little trick here where I won't 2120 02:18:41,640 --> 02:18:45,990 point back to the history of the television to now. I'll jump all 2121 02:18:45,990 --> 02:18:51,210 the way back to slavery. You said you say he's absolved 2122 02:18:51,210 --> 02:18:56,250 himself or any responsibility. Yes. I say oh, slavery is not no 2123 02:18:56,280 --> 02:18:59,790 bother not being in the home. We still need you poisonous food, 2124 02:18:59,940 --> 02:19:05,850 like with the bliss, bliss point. This out is music, 2125 02:19:05,910 --> 02:19:09,660 television. No, it's not none of that, Adam. So I'll take my 2126 02:19:09,690 --> 02:19:11,640 bootleg hat off. That's what he's trying to take 2127 02:19:11,639 --> 02:19:16,379 your hat off and I just came up with a Well, I'm a conspiracy 2128 02:19:16,379 --> 02:19:22,619 therapist. So I'm analyzing the situation. In 2013 Burrell I 2129 02:19:22,619 --> 02:19:26,459 think, bro communication so no longer bro. McBain but bro 2130 02:19:26,459 --> 02:19:31,799 communications launched rising tide, a aspirational social 2131 02:19:31,799 --> 02:19:37,019 network for millennials sponsored by tide. And I know a 2132 02:19:37,019 --> 02:19:42,779 little about tide. Ty Hamilton in in college my roommate he 2133 02:19:42,779 --> 02:19:48,389 taught me about tide. So is it possible though, that to flip 2134 02:19:48,389 --> 02:19:52,349 the tables and just kind of like a wink wink nudge nudge that he 2135 02:19:52,349 --> 02:20:00,539 continued with the tide account and created a covered camp Hane 2136 02:20:00,749 --> 02:20:06,359 that featured dumb shit white kids eating Tide Pods. Do you 2137 02:20:06,359 --> 02:20:10,559 think that that could have been something he had up his sleeve? 2138 02:20:13,380 --> 02:20:16,500 I'll have to look into that quite possible. But what me when 2139 02:20:16,500 --> 02:20:19,830 you say rising tide? Oh, yeah, no, my daughter. 2140 02:20:20,100 --> 02:20:21,690 I know isn't. Remember that's 2141 02:20:21,690 --> 02:20:25,200 the nonstarter that, you know, this is where this is where 2142 02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:28,050 they're antiquated. This goes to show you that their mom says 2143 02:20:28,050 --> 02:20:31,080 antiquated is not meant for the 21st century, the guy is what 2144 02:20:31,080 --> 02:20:34,680 they have to do is go back and rewrite history. As we've seen 2145 02:20:34,680 --> 02:20:37,650 with gunslingers. Everything else is like, no, no, no, no, 2146 02:20:37,650 --> 02:20:41,940 no, it wasn't the Coca Cola and Marlboro. Of course, all the 2147 02:20:41,940 --> 02:20:44,970 things that we saw in the black community is slavery. That's the 2148 02:20:44,970 --> 02:20:45,540 problem. 2149 02:20:45,779 --> 02:20:49,499 He's which, yeah, go ahead. Yes. So 2150 02:20:49,500 --> 02:20:53,040 it is a claim. Now then people say, well, well, no, you're pro 2151 02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:57,120 rhetoric. That's because it's a legal claim there. What I'm 2152 02:20:57,120 --> 02:20:59,790 saying is that, and I've said this before, and I'll say it 2153 02:20:59,790 --> 02:21:03,360 again, I don't care how much people get upset. The narrative 2154 02:21:03,390 --> 02:21:10,140 of slavery is just as dangerous as the act itself, because it 2155 02:21:10,140 --> 02:21:12,120 feeds into self victimization, 2156 02:21:12,480 --> 02:21:19,650 get bombarded us with images of carrying out this whole myth of 2157 02:21:19,650 --> 02:21:25,110 black inferiority, daily Arlie by the minute, constantly 2158 02:21:25,110 --> 02:21:28,830 reinforcing it in all these different ways that we talk 2159 02:21:28,830 --> 02:21:32,490 about, and in the in the book, and these are the kinds of 2160 02:21:32,490 --> 02:21:34,830 subtle images that we're constantly being 2161 02:21:35,460 --> 02:21:37,950 bombarded with. And basically, they've been effective is what 2162 02:21:37,950 --> 02:21:38,400 you're saying 2163 02:21:38,429 --> 02:21:42,689 they have been, it's the it is the most effective advertising 2164 02:21:42,689 --> 02:21:45,569 campaign in the history of this country, the myth selling the 2165 02:21:45,569 --> 02:21:51,779 myth of blacks being inferior. And that's, that's part of the 2166 02:21:51,779 --> 02:21:52,469 brainwashing, 2167 02:21:52,500 --> 02:21:55,440 but that's not but that part is not necessarily coming from the 2168 02:21:55,440 --> 02:21:57,900 white culture isn't it's not coming from the black culture. 2169 02:21:57,929 --> 02:22:02,909 Well, the thing the thing about brainwashing Scherl is that once 2170 02:22:03,239 --> 02:22:08,729 a principle of brainwashing is that the brain washed, becomes 2171 02:22:08,729 --> 02:22:10,409 the brain washing 2172 02:22:10,560 --> 02:22:14,130 become the brain washer, okay, right. The hurt, 2173 02:22:14,430 --> 02:22:21,810 hurt the the abused become the abuser, that is a that is a 2174 02:22:21,810 --> 02:22:27,720 natural component of brainwashing. And so, in all 2175 02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:33,030 these areas, we, at some point in our history have taken on our 2176 02:22:33,030 --> 02:22:36,660 own victimization. We take it over, 2177 02:22:37,470 --> 02:22:41,100 Man, this guy, not only he's still doing this, his he still 2178 02:22:41,100 --> 02:22:45,030 has a foreign agency that is driving change for social 2179 02:22:45,030 --> 02:22:48,900 justice inequality and protecting our green spaces. 2180 02:22:51,180 --> 02:22:54,180 Right, but the self victimization like it that's 2181 02:22:54,180 --> 02:22:56,340 what does it that feeds itself? Yeah. 2182 02:22:57,090 --> 02:23:00,120 You could probably program it was some colors. 2183 02:23:01,830 --> 02:23:07,140 What? But isn't that rigor we call my control? Yes. And can we 2184 02:23:07,140 --> 02:23:10,590 say these kinds of things? That's totally now but we have 2185 02:23:10,590 --> 02:23:15,840 somebody behind the curtain. Tom Maria was in those rooms making 2186 02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:19,470 no decisions on what images to show black people what would 2187 02:23:19,470 --> 02:23:25,830 resonate with black people? You know, so he's part of the 2188 02:23:25,830 --> 02:23:29,250 problem. But I now think with any booth, a member, they get a 2189 02:23:29,250 --> 02:23:32,340 guilty conscience, they need to rewrite history, they get into a 2190 02:23:32,370 --> 02:23:34,980 we all do it when we get old, you know, we want to write our 2191 02:23:34,980 --> 02:23:38,130 wrongs. But at the same time, he didn't want to take the 2192 02:23:38,130 --> 02:23:43,170 responsibility for his actions. So they want to jump all the way 2193 02:23:43,170 --> 02:23:46,620 back back slave labor, is it? Yeah, it's always back to 2194 02:23:46,620 --> 02:23:49,680 slavery. It's like, no, let's start with Wow, wow, from 2195 02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:51,960 slavery to the 1950s that we drive, 2196 02:23:51,960 --> 02:23:55,530 he wants to systemic he wants to get away from it to his part of 2197 02:23:55,530 --> 02:23:56,610 it, obviously. 2198 02:23:57,570 --> 02:24:00,570 Well, it's two things. One, he wants to get away from it, but 2199 02:24:00,570 --> 02:24:04,230 also to he doesn't want his children to bear the weight of 2200 02:24:04,230 --> 02:24:08,580 blackness. You're gonna come to find out a lot of people don't 2201 02:24:08,580 --> 02:24:13,230 want to use and carry that term black anymore. And what comes 2202 02:24:13,230 --> 02:24:16,140 along with it. So if you had to Boulais pulling away from the 2203 02:24:16,320 --> 02:24:19,110 common black people or the ordinary black people, then 2204 02:24:19,110 --> 02:24:21,630 you'd have black women pulling away from black men like oh, 2205 02:24:21,630 --> 02:24:23,880 they're the prop the other ones really killing each other. Not 2206 02:24:23,880 --> 02:24:28,110 us. Let us in the whiteness. Yeah, and when I'm talking I'm 2207 02:24:28,110 --> 02:24:31,110 not talking about you everyday running the mill. Black women 2208 02:24:31,110 --> 02:24:36,420 I'm talking about that Colvin that you're saying Can cockpit. 2209 02:24:36,450 --> 02:24:38,880 Oh, yeah, we want a female vice president. That's what we really 2210 02:24:38,880 --> 02:24:41,640 want. That's really going to show the change that they want 2211 02:24:41,640 --> 02:24:45,450 to pull away from blackness. That's the thing and the rich 2212 02:24:45,450 --> 02:24:48,030 want to pull away from blackness. And now all you have 2213 02:24:48,030 --> 02:24:51,780 left is this subset of black men. It's like oh, yeah, let's 2214 02:24:51,810 --> 02:24:53,250 Yeah, let's use them. 2215 02:24:55,770 --> 02:25:03,570 natter still useful. Yeah, yeah. Jeez, well, so, yeah, but this 2216 02:25:03,570 --> 02:25:08,940 is it is so it's like you gotta you gotta laugh. But you know, 2217 02:25:09,690 --> 02:25:14,820 the Black Twitter of course I get I got great Twitter, man, we 2218 02:25:14,820 --> 02:25:19,980 got to really examine some, some black advertising, because I 2219 02:25:20,070 --> 02:25:24,210 look I work with this guy's agencies and you know, I I'll 2220 02:25:24,210 --> 02:25:27,420 find out what account it was we had some cross work. So I had a 2221 02:25:27,450 --> 02:25:32,490 pretty big company back in the 80s 90s. But now we really and I 2222 02:25:32,490 --> 02:25:37,860 feel very responsible for some things, MTV for sure. But we got 2223 02:25:37,860 --> 02:25:41,310 to look at what some of these AdWords because McDonald's is so 2224 02:25:41,310 --> 02:25:44,070 much incredibly, you know, imagery 2225 02:25:44,280 --> 02:25:51,960 brands, Coca Cola, yeah. Yep. Diabetes. Yeah. McDonald's, 2226 02:25:51,960 --> 02:25:57,690 diabetes, hypertension, Marlboro lung cancer. I think there was a 2227 02:25:57,720 --> 02:26:00,660 alcohol company and I'm not mistaking. I don't put that on 2228 02:26:00,660 --> 02:26:02,400 my phone. Not for sure. I'm just saying but look at all these 2229 02:26:02,400 --> 02:26:05,670 companies to advertise for, to what to market to black people 2230 02:26:05,760 --> 02:26:08,700 that lead to comorbidities that leave us right for when a 2231 02:26:08,700 --> 02:26:12,450 pandemic comes. This is what happens. So the blood is on your 2232 02:26:12,450 --> 02:26:14,760 hands. I don't want I don't want to put this on you. It is what 2233 02:26:14,760 --> 02:26:18,750 it is. And then you have the only way you can exist as a 2234 02:26:18,750 --> 02:26:22,200 black man now in America is to be afraid of your life. Be 2235 02:26:22,200 --> 02:26:23,550 afraid for your life. Check it 2236 02:26:23,550 --> 02:26:29,100 out. Planned Parenthood is one of their clients. McDonald's 2237 02:26:29,100 --> 02:26:33,480 You're right. What is this Seagram escapes? 2238 02:26:35,160 --> 02:26:38,100 Liquor Store also, they're literally cirrhosis of the 2239 02:26:38,100 --> 02:26:40,470 liver. Coca Cola, glut holism 2240 02:26:40,470 --> 02:26:44,550 GlaxoSmithKline. That's the that's the remedy to the shit 2241 02:26:44,550 --> 02:26:45,990 you get from the other clients. 2242 02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:48,480 Exactly. So it's self feeding. 2243 02:26:50,070 --> 02:26:57,990 But here it is infinity LGBTQ X I'm sorry. XFINITY Xfinity LGBTQ 2244 02:26:57,990 --> 02:27:05,940 is a is a Comcast channel I guess. Huh? Yeah, okay. So we 2245 02:27:05,940 --> 02:27:09,690 need to do if this is going to be a 13 hour show this is just 2246 02:27:09,690 --> 02:27:10,890 too good this stuff okay. 2247 02:27:10,920 --> 02:27:17,070 I don't mean to drag it out. But let's let's get into his his 2248 02:27:17,100 --> 02:27:19,020 take on studs and slips. 2249 02:27:19,740 --> 02:27:25,650 Another area you talk about is relationships between black men 2250 02:27:25,650 --> 02:27:30,600 and women and family dynamics. Certainly, relationships between 2251 02:27:30,600 --> 02:27:35,190 black men and women are known to have been troubles. African 2252 02:27:35,190 --> 02:27:37,620 Americans certainly have a lower marriage rate than any other 2253 02:27:37,620 --> 02:27:41,040 group we have a lack of stable families which has a big impact 2254 02:27:41,040 --> 02:27:44,670 on both black children and adults. You say that this is 2255 02:27:44,670 --> 02:27:48,990 partly the result of popular culture which promotes black men 2256 02:27:48,990 --> 02:27:53,220 as roots and black women as slips the studs and slips 2257 02:27:53,220 --> 02:27:59,160 campaign. So you fast forward 400 years and this theme seems 2258 02:27:59,160 --> 02:28:02,550 the studs Institute sluts theme seems to be carried out 2259 02:28:02,670 --> 02:28:07,980 certainly, in the music videos are produced and acted in by 2260 02:28:08,010 --> 02:28:08,730 black people. 2261 02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:16,200 Yes. Yes. And it's you know, it's really I want to believe 2262 02:28:16,230 --> 02:28:23,370 that it's, it's not a malignant kind of intention. I believe 2263 02:28:23,370 --> 02:28:30,240 that it's insensitive, we have been conditioned to victimize 2264 02:28:30,630 --> 02:28:36,420 ourselves with the use of the N word denigrating misogyny 2265 02:28:36,420 --> 02:28:41,070 denigrating our women killing each other. This is part of the 2266 02:28:41,070 --> 02:28:43,590 conditioning that nobody wants to talk about. 2267 02:28:44,340 --> 02:28:47,550 Oh, MO Yes, 2268 02:28:47,580 --> 02:28:50,790 now I feel it now I see now I see why 2269 02:28:54,270 --> 02:28:54,750 yeah 2270 02:29:03,960 --> 02:29:07,740 Dan blew my mind that blew my mind. 2271 02:29:08,490 --> 02:29:11,670 Out of one question. Do you know what the number one song in the 2272 02:29:11,670 --> 02:29:14,970 country is right now was yeah, maybe we could go I 2273 02:29:14,970 --> 02:29:19,350 mean, what it was or what Whap you tell me mo 2274 02:29:20,250 --> 02:29:22,950 and does that not align with the studs and sluts? 2275 02:29:24,180 --> 02:29:28,080 That is the narrative Yes, Cardi B for anybody who was not hip 2276 02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:31,710 and Megan and Megan the stallion all make negative 2277 02:29:31,710 --> 02:29:35,400 style some of the valleys and like I said, I don't I'm not I'm 2278 02:29:35,400 --> 02:29:40,560 not easy to make blush. But I finally heard it like on the 2279 02:29:40,560 --> 02:29:41,580 radio. I'm like 2280 02:29:43,380 --> 02:29:47,250 the lyrics I mean, forget the video. The lyrics are I mean, 2281 02:29:47,790 --> 02:29:53,670 that's not just suggestive. And and why girls will defend it 2282 02:29:55,800 --> 02:29:59,130 and why presidential candidates will go talk to these people. 2283 02:30:00,900 --> 02:30:02,460 Bernie Sanders, you're right. 2284 02:30:03,630 --> 02:30:04,830 And Joe Biden. 2285 02:30:05,579 --> 02:30:10,919 You know what the, when I called out a couple of my, my favorite 2286 02:30:10,919 --> 02:30:16,169 millennials, white girls. And I said, Why is this? Okay? They're 2287 02:30:16,199 --> 02:30:20,609 what they said back to me. Fair enough, was we've been hearing 2288 02:30:20,609 --> 02:30:27,059 the same crap from black men for years. Fair point. 2289 02:30:27,090 --> 02:30:29,070 Don't don't make it right. 2290 02:30:29,430 --> 02:30:32,670 Don't No, of course two wrongs don't that makes everything 2291 02:30:32,670 --> 02:30:35,940 right now and in America, but yeah, doesn't make it right. 2292 02:30:35,940 --> 02:30:36,750 You're absolutely right. 2293 02:30:36,840 --> 02:30:40,440 And Nick, and this is the point of women and society, the point 2294 02:30:40,470 --> 02:30:44,940 that makes them so important, and devalue, you know, they make 2295 02:30:44,940 --> 02:30:49,200 us civil. As we talked about the Wild West, it was like, who had 2296 02:30:49,200 --> 02:30:52,350 the fastest gun, you know, it's never to take and we're gonna 2297 02:30:52,350 --> 02:30:57,180 take it, women keep us civilized, in a way, helps, you 2298 02:30:57,180 --> 02:31:00,510 know, they keep us from that caveman mentality, hopefully. 2299 02:31:01,470 --> 02:31:03,660 Because they, you know, they say The Hand That Rocks, the cradle 2300 02:31:03,660 --> 02:31:07,350 rules the world. So a mother teaches you a don't know, take, 2301 02:31:07,380 --> 02:31:11,130 say Be nice, please, those kinds of things. So if you're raised 2302 02:31:11,130 --> 02:31:14,910 up in a Whap household, yeah, Jesus Christ without a father. 2303 02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:20,580 And do you wonder, you wonder why. But don't take my word for 2304 02:31:20,580 --> 02:31:21,780 it. Listen to white Mike. 2305 02:31:22,289 --> 02:31:24,869 Now in this time, I learned a lot of beautiful things about a 2306 02:31:24,869 --> 02:31:27,659 lot of beautiful people. I learned a lot of ugly things 2307 02:31:27,659 --> 02:31:30,329 about myself. And I learned a lot of dark things about the 2308 02:31:30,329 --> 02:31:34,289 nation in which we live. But I also learned that I being white 2309 02:31:34,289 --> 02:31:37,079 Mike, specifically, the white part, have a lot of power. 2310 02:31:37,109 --> 02:31:40,049 White. Mike has a question today. And that's this. How come 2311 02:31:40,049 --> 02:31:43,979 when you turn on the radio in Jacksonville, or New Orleans, or 2312 02:31:43,979 --> 02:31:48,629 Chicago, or Little Rock? The only people on the radio that 2313 02:31:48,629 --> 02:31:54,359 talks about how great it is to kill each other? Or black? How 2314 02:31:54,359 --> 02:31:59,909 come that exist? 15 stations on a dial go up go down. The only 2315 02:31:59,909 --> 02:32:03,569 people on the radio bragging about getting automatic weapons 2316 02:32:03,719 --> 02:32:07,049 gunning each other down are black. This right here is a 2317 02:32:07,049 --> 02:32:11,909 song. My pastoral vocabulary won't let me read the title. But 2318 02:32:11,909 --> 02:32:14,399 I will read this catchy young black male not paying attention 2319 02:32:14,399 --> 02:32:17,579 that the red light with your AK 47 Let me see you shoot it. 2320 02:32:17,669 --> 02:32:19,679 You're a killer. You're a killer. You're a killer. You're 2321 02:32:19,679 --> 02:32:22,979 a killer, black male. Let me see you prove it. Why does this 2322 02:32:22,979 --> 02:32:23,519 exist? 2323 02:32:25,650 --> 02:32:28,290 Yeah, white Mike. I had not heard of white Mike. He looks 2324 02:32:28,290 --> 02:32:28,950 pretty interesting. 2325 02:32:28,980 --> 02:32:32,070 So this is my mic with Reverend Michael Smith. And he's from the 2326 02:32:32,070 --> 02:32:38,010 TED TEDx Jacksonville. He's a pastor. And he was the white guy 2327 02:32:38,010 --> 02:32:43,650 in a predominantly black environment. So somehow white 2328 02:32:43,650 --> 02:32:47,190 Mike is the thing and most black communities there in the White 2329 02:32:47,190 --> 02:32:50,970 might I don't know what is. I think it stems from the wham 2330 02:32:50,970 --> 02:32:53,700 brothers show because they had my right wing. 2331 02:32:54,300 --> 02:32:58,200 Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. I remember that. 2332 02:32:58,440 --> 02:33:02,820 I mean, he he jokingly refers to himself as White might because 2333 02:33:02,820 --> 02:33:05,970 they were like, it was several mics in the church. Anyway, have 2334 02:33:05,970 --> 02:33:08,400 you seen mine and they've liked who and they didn't know his 2335 02:33:08,400 --> 02:33:12,690 last name. So it kind of stuck. But he brings up valid points. 2336 02:33:12,690 --> 02:33:18,000 Why is it that this kind of boy guarantee I'm not gonna go 2337 02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:20,640 there. This is another show for another day that vulgarity and, 2338 02:33:20,640 --> 02:33:25,800 you know, the sex sexualization, but the murder? Yeah, in one 2339 02:33:25,800 --> 02:33:28,710 breath, and he broke up, bring up a great point about, um, 2340 02:33:29,820 --> 02:33:33,720 young white females. How one minute they'll have Black Lives 2341 02:33:33,720 --> 02:33:37,530 Matter on you know, all on their tick tock. Yeah. And then the 2342 02:33:37,530 --> 02:33:41,910 next minute, they're dancing to walk them down, which is a very 2343 02:33:41,910 --> 02:33:45,420 popular song now talking about how one black man walks down on 2344 02:33:45,420 --> 02:33:48,000 another black man with the chopper. If you don't know what 2345 02:33:48,000 --> 02:33:52,290 chopper it is the AK 47 se na da is not good enough. You got to 2346 02:33:52,290 --> 02:33:57,360 walk them down. They'll dance to that. Do choreography to that 2347 02:33:57,360 --> 02:34:01,500 but then tell you Black Lives Matter? Are these people sick? I 2348 02:34:01,500 --> 02:34:03,120 ask that in all seriousness, 2349 02:34:04,350 --> 02:34:08,970 well, it you know, this, this, of course, started well, hip hop 2350 02:34:08,970 --> 02:34:12,450 started nice and kind of, you know, kind of like friendly. 2351 02:34:13,680 --> 02:34:17,040 And, you know, it was a hip hop to the hip to the hibbett of hip 2352 02:34:17,040 --> 02:34:20,850 hop. You don't stop rocking. It was like that. Right? And then 2353 02:34:20,850 --> 02:34:25,620 it just, you know, I think if I think because MTV, I'm trying to 2354 02:34:25,620 --> 02:34:32,280 think if we did didn't real gangster rap. It just seems it 2355 02:34:32,280 --> 02:34:34,320 was kind of friendly. 2356 02:34:35,190 --> 02:34:38,430 Late at well, no, it was friendly. At first jokingly Will 2357 02:34:38,430 --> 02:34:41,910 Smith haha, right. Right, right. datas those kinds of things. 2358 02:34:41,910 --> 02:34:45,990 Yeah. And then public enemy comes along. Consciousness is 2359 02:34:45,990 --> 02:34:49,560 starting to bleed into and they're like, Oh, no. Oh, no, we 2360 02:34:49,560 --> 02:34:54,930 can't have that. We can poison poison the whale. And that's 2361 02:34:54,930 --> 02:34:58,950 exactly what you had. And that's why you heard I rang my bell 2362 02:34:58,950 --> 02:35:02,280 when Burrell He's talking. He's like, Well, you know, I don't 2363 02:35:02,280 --> 02:35:05,520 want to think it was, you know, done on intention. He didn't say 2364 02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:09,480 that I think. I think I've got the word he used, but basically 2365 02:35:09,480 --> 02:35:12,120 implying that he didn't want to step on his record industry 2366 02:35:12,120 --> 02:35:15,720 friends toes. He knows it was done by design. Isn't it 2367 02:35:15,720 --> 02:35:23,070 interesting that you can't post something on Twitter, about 2368 02:35:23,340 --> 02:35:28,470 hydroxychloroquine because it might might kill kill you. But 2369 02:35:28,470 --> 02:35:32,880 you can certainly post a snippet from any of these music videos. 2370 02:35:33,930 --> 02:35:37,470 Where it's literally literally, we're literally 2371 02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:41,280 people saying, I'm going to kill this guy, actual killing. 2372 02:35:42,300 --> 02:35:45,060 But let's just do a one to one correlation. Because if people 2373 02:35:45,060 --> 02:35:47,370 say Oh, well, that's you know, that's not the same false 2374 02:35:47,370 --> 02:35:50,010 equivalent, you can easily put your false equivalency so you 2375 02:35:50,010 --> 02:35:54,270 can easily post about drinking lane, which is prescription 2376 02:35:54,270 --> 02:35:58,860 Cossart. Nobody says anything. But if you talk about 2377 02:35:58,860 --> 02:36:01,770 hydroxychloroquine Oh, I'll take them now. To take him down. 2378 02:36:02,340 --> 02:36:06,750 Check him out now. Right. So why am I brings up the question is, 2379 02:36:06,780 --> 02:36:08,100 where are the killer whites? 2380 02:36:08,400 --> 02:36:10,470 I'll take it even further. Because a lot of time racism 2381 02:36:10,470 --> 02:36:14,580 exists in what we in what we don't know what we don't see. 2382 02:36:14,670 --> 02:36:19,530 Where are the white killers on the radio? Where are the white 2383 02:36:19,560 --> 02:36:23,910 ak 47 shooters? Where are the white drug dealers? Where are 2384 02:36:23,910 --> 02:36:26,760 the white people on the radio that brag about what it's like 2385 02:36:26,760 --> 02:36:30,510 to murder witnesses before trial? The truth is they don't 2386 02:36:30,510 --> 02:36:34,470 exist. And the question is why? Why don't they exist? Do white 2387 02:36:34,470 --> 02:36:38,010 people not kill people? Do white people not use AK 40 sevens to 2388 02:36:38,010 --> 02:36:40,050 shoot each other? I mean, we know do white people not do 2389 02:36:40,050 --> 02:36:43,590 drugs? And they're not do drugs? Of course they do. But why is it 2390 02:36:43,590 --> 02:36:46,650 that it doesn't make it to our mainstream radio? Why is it that 2391 02:36:46,650 --> 02:36:49,680 we don't hear it hundreds of times a day in hundreds of 2392 02:36:49,680 --> 02:36:53,610 cities across the nation 1000s of plays that say the idea that 2393 02:36:53,610 --> 02:36:56,100 a black guy would kill another black guy is something to be 2394 02:36:56,100 --> 02:36:58,500 celebrated. Something to be romanticized. 2395 02:36:59,670 --> 02:37:02,490 Yeah, true that through that, 2396 02:37:02,910 --> 02:37:05,700 just to make one point I'm white, Mike's on a roll so I 2397 02:37:05,700 --> 02:37:08,790 don't want to stop them too much. I just want to make one 2398 02:37:08,790 --> 02:37:13,410 valid point. Notice Eminem is his top surprise selling MC 2399 02:37:13,410 --> 02:37:18,780 right now over to pot. He didn't have the thug mentality. He 2400 02:37:18,780 --> 02:37:22,020 rapped about killing his mom and taking prescription drugs. It's 2401 02:37:22,020 --> 02:37:25,170 like no, if he if he if he rapped about the Post Malone. 2402 02:37:25,320 --> 02:37:28,230 Let's just use your sand. Who's popular now? He doesn't rap 2403 02:37:28,230 --> 02:37:28,650 about that 2404 02:37:28,650 --> 02:37:34,320 kind of stuff. No. So Right. So Right. Intention people pay 2405 02:37:34,320 --> 02:37:36,660 attention. He's 2406 02:37:37,680 --> 02:37:38,970 alright, thrill seekers. 2407 02:37:39,270 --> 02:37:41,430 And maybe that maybe it's because there's no white 2408 02:37:41,430 --> 02:37:43,650 audience for it. Or maybe it's because it's not really 2409 02:37:43,650 --> 02:37:46,680 marketable. Maybe because it's not good. Can't get sponsors. I 2410 02:37:46,680 --> 02:37:49,320 don't know why it is. Or maybe it's because it's just not the 2411 02:37:49,320 --> 02:37:51,750 white man's role. Or maybe when white people get up and talk 2412 02:37:51,750 --> 02:37:54,840 about being drug dealers and ak 47. Killers. Maybe it's even 2413 02:37:54,840 --> 02:37:56,760 sicker than that. Maybe when white people do it, they're 2414 02:37:56,760 --> 02:38:00,510 accused of acting black. The truth is in America, black 2415 02:38:00,510 --> 02:38:03,510 murder is normal. Black murder is normally the idea that a 2416 02:38:03,510 --> 02:38:06,330 black man or black woman would be involved in a homicide either 2417 02:38:06,330 --> 02:38:09,780 as a perpetrator or victim is so common, so broadly accepted that 2418 02:38:09,810 --> 02:38:12,720 basically goes unnoticed. The truth of the matter is black 2419 02:38:12,720 --> 02:38:15,690 families are affected by homicide rates of 10 times their 2420 02:38:15,690 --> 02:38:18,750 white counterparts. There will be more death in the form of 2421 02:38:18,750 --> 02:38:21,570 homicides involving black people this year than any other form of 2422 02:38:21,570 --> 02:38:24,180 violence that dominates our national conversation. More than 2423 02:38:24,180 --> 02:38:26,220 school shootings, mass shootings, mass shootings, 2424 02:38:26,220 --> 02:38:29,190 workplace shootings, lovers twist lovers trips that turned 2425 02:38:29,430 --> 02:38:32,790 violent and bloody even more than in war and in terrorism, no 2426 02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:35,460 one will lose their life in greater numbers. And then black 2427 02:38:35,460 --> 02:38:38,340 Americans involved in violence. You know, black murder in our 2428 02:38:38,340 --> 02:38:40,650 country is not only comes normally frequent, but it's an 2429 02:38:40,650 --> 02:38:43,470 idea that we celebrate it's an idea that we say is is okay. We 2430 02:38:43,470 --> 02:38:47,820 actually make heroes out of the notion heroes out of people that 2431 02:38:47,820 --> 02:38:50,310 trivialize and romanticize it. Every time I show this 2432 02:38:50,310 --> 02:38:52,050 information, people always say, Well, it's the number three 2433 02:38:52,050 --> 02:38:54,510 cause of death for white males. What is the number one cause of 2434 02:38:54,510 --> 02:38:56,520 death and without fail year after year, it's called 2435 02:38:56,520 --> 02:38:59,880 unintentional injuries, accidents, falling off a four 2436 02:38:59,880 --> 02:39:03,960 wheeler crash into, you know, a go kart or you know, bungee 2437 02:39:03,960 --> 02:39:06,540 jumping without paying attention to you know, knots and things 2438 02:39:06,540 --> 02:39:09,000 like that. So basically, the American story is white kids are 2439 02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:11,580 dying because they're clumsy, and black kids are dying, 2440 02:39:11,760 --> 02:39:12,900 because they're gunned down. 2441 02:39:13,500 --> 02:39:14,880 How old is this clip? 2442 02:39:17,010 --> 02:39:21,750 I think this is in 2000. Think 1716 I think somewhere around 2443 02:39:21,810 --> 02:39:22,140 here because 2444 02:39:22,440 --> 02:39:24,750 just headaches just because we're looking at you know how 2445 02:39:24,750 --> 02:39:29,190 media influences our thinking etc. And it may be a little 2446 02:39:29,190 --> 02:39:31,530 different. I'm not sure we're just want to put it a little 2447 02:39:31,530 --> 02:39:39,450 side note that fentanyl and opioid od I think is certainly 2448 02:39:39,450 --> 02:39:42,930 positioned in the media as a white person's problem. 2449 02:39:44,850 --> 02:39:50,280 It is but it's not nice. Cars of course is there but yeah, it is 2450 02:39:50,280 --> 02:39:54,270 it is but it's not but then they also just a side tangent on 2451 02:39:54,270 --> 02:39:57,180 that. Um, people will say oh, well, they don't want to 2452 02:39:57,180 --> 02:39:59,850 prosecute white people. No, they don't want to prosecute the 2453 02:39:59,850 --> 02:40:05,040 white Doctors did come from, you know, upper class. That's what I 2454 02:40:05,040 --> 02:40:09,150 mean if it was crank or meth or whatever, they allow everybody 2455 02:40:09,150 --> 02:40:11,760 up. But it's like, if you start talking about locking people up 2456 02:40:11,760 --> 02:40:16,710 for prescription drugs, a lot of wasps are going to jail. So it's 2457 02:40:16,710 --> 02:40:21,750 like, no, we don't want to go down that route. But I want to 2458 02:40:21,750 --> 02:40:24,450 make one point. He pointed out the accidental deaths, the 2459 02:40:24,450 --> 02:40:29,700 bungee jumping the ATV four wheelers. Sure skateboarding is 2460 02:40:29,700 --> 02:40:33,870 up there X Games, you know, behavior. That's thrill seeking 2461 02:40:33,870 --> 02:40:38,580 behavior, right? Young man, you know, pushing the boundaries, I 2462 02:40:38,580 --> 02:40:42,030 won't die. I mean, we have this, you know, we have this arrogance 2463 02:40:42,030 --> 02:40:45,030 and where you're young that you can't die. So you know, you push 2464 02:40:45,030 --> 02:40:49,260 it to the limit. Why is it that young black male can't have the 2465 02:40:49,260 --> 02:40:54,360 same mentality? It's a game to a lot of them. A lot of these kids 2466 02:40:54,360 --> 02:40:59,850 are not sociopaths. It's a game. It's Aha. You know, like, you 2467 02:40:59,850 --> 02:41:00,150 know, 2468 02:41:00,750 --> 02:41:04,650 when I tell you, No, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm sorry. 2469 02:41:06,120 --> 02:41:09,570 No, it's a bad habit, I'll tell you is like, I'm trying to kick 2470 02:41:09,570 --> 02:41:15,000 that. Lots of people have that one. Because we've seen more 2471 02:41:15,000 --> 02:41:20,550 shootings on TV. I know what you're talking about. Because I 2472 02:41:20,550 --> 02:41:23,550 see these kids, I'll just call them kids. I see these men, 2473 02:41:23,940 --> 02:41:26,940 mainly men. And they got you know, they got the Glock nine 2474 02:41:26,940 --> 02:41:31,830 with a huge magazine hanging out of that thing. And then like Pom 2475 02:41:31,830 --> 02:41:35,580 Pom, and they're shooting sideways. I'm like, and a lot of 2476 02:41:35,580 --> 02:41:42,060 it misses. A lot of it is just, it's just ridiculous. I hate 2477 02:41:42,060 --> 02:41:46,860 the, like cowboys and Indians but with live ammo. And yeah, 2478 02:41:47,520 --> 02:41:51,570 being too. It's our thing. It's LARPing. But it is also a thrill 2479 02:41:51,570 --> 02:41:57,840 seeking. Yeah, it's a very, very, very unsafe way of, of 2480 02:41:57,900 --> 02:41:59,670 thrill seeking. But yeah. 2481 02:42:00,750 --> 02:42:05,100 It's part of mechanisms, the mechanism now you have a one kid 2482 02:42:05,100 --> 02:42:08,850 that goes down a 50 foot ramp, you know, on a skateboard. 2483 02:42:09,330 --> 02:42:12,690 Right? Right. And then volley breakers MC, or you see me to 2484 02:42:12,690 --> 02:42:16,020 have MTV show that shows clip at the clip at a clip kids getting 2485 02:42:16,020 --> 02:42:18,630 their arm broke teeth knocking out, knocked out 2486 02:42:18,630 --> 02:42:21,960 the entire movies of white kids doing this. 2487 02:42:22,590 --> 02:42:25,380 Right. So I'm just what I'm saying is say it's the same 2488 02:42:25,380 --> 02:42:30,120 behavior. But the behavior manifests itself in a different 2489 02:42:30,120 --> 02:42:34,890 way of Let's Play this loud. Act, right live action roleplay 2490 02:42:34,890 --> 02:42:40,050 game of bugging. Yeah, you know, I'll pop shots your way you pop 2491 02:42:40,050 --> 02:42:44,070 shots my way, you know, we know and then but then it escalates 2492 02:42:44,070 --> 02:42:47,910 to what we talked about before it gets on the wire, and so on. 2493 02:42:47,910 --> 02:42:54,150 So punks, it gets serious. Yeah. Or you enter you counter, you 2494 02:42:54,150 --> 02:42:58,140 interact with the super predator, or a, b, and 2495 02:42:58,140 --> 02:42:59,670 unfortunately, this, 2496 02:42:59,970 --> 02:43:05,520 of course, but unfortunately, you know, sometimes you'll see 2497 02:43:05,520 --> 02:43:10,680 that some spectator got injured at a, you know, at some kind of 2498 02:43:10,680 --> 02:43:16,320 skateboarding competition or a motorsport event. But you rarely 2499 02:43:16,320 --> 02:43:19,320 hear about, you know, the baby in the crib at three in the 2500 02:43:19,320 --> 02:43:22,950 morning who got killed by the at the skateboarding event. That's 2501 02:43:22,950 --> 02:43:26,130 why of course, it appears different. But I'm going to I'm 2502 02:43:26,130 --> 02:43:30,150 going to agree with you. That for young men, yeah. It's it 2503 02:43:30,150 --> 02:43:33,060 that is happens to be their thrill, which we should probably 2504 02:43:33,270 --> 02:43:34,590 try and stop some of that. 2505 02:43:36,120 --> 02:43:39,960 Yeah, it's just I want to keep going. But you brought this up. 2506 02:43:39,960 --> 02:43:44,940 So I had to read about talking about on the show. But I was in 2507 02:43:44,970 --> 02:43:48,870 another part of Virginia meeting someone. And I walked into a 2508 02:43:48,870 --> 02:43:53,940 Wawa. And I'm like, Okay, I see two young black males, and they 2509 02:43:53,940 --> 02:43:57,600 were young. I mean, you could tell her young pants sagging, 2510 02:43:58,200 --> 02:44:04,470 tight jeans on with big ass pistols. Hey, I mean, not even, 2511 02:44:04,890 --> 02:44:09,870 not even a concealed just hanging out. So I'm, like, you 2512 02:44:09,870 --> 02:44:14,100 know, the talk that my dad had, he was and this is what, I'd had 2513 02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:16,650 to tell the story just for the talk. So I'm like, Okay, let me 2514 02:44:16,650 --> 02:44:20,220 keep my eye on these two. He was saying because he's shot 2515 02:44:20,220 --> 02:44:23,550 starting to pop off. I need to know where they're coming from. 2516 02:44:23,730 --> 02:44:26,970 And I need to know where my nearest exit is. I mean, this it 2517 02:44:26,970 --> 02:44:30,210 automatically just goes you know, you just trigger in. So 2518 02:44:30,270 --> 02:44:31,860 I'm getting my sandwich from Wawa. 2519 02:44:33,240 --> 02:44:35,370 I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with Wawa 2520 02:44:36,090 --> 02:44:39,420 it's like a gas station which has like a subway built into it 2521 02:44:39,420 --> 02:44:45,450 basically okay. Where it's like as you're gonna find in quote 2522 02:44:45,450 --> 02:44:48,000 unquote black communities certain Convenience stores are 2523 02:44:48,000 --> 02:44:51,570 the hotspot what you hear a lot of crime if I'm waiting to get 2524 02:44:51,570 --> 02:44:54,660 the drop on somebody. I know they got to come by beer a bunch 2525 02:44:54,660 --> 02:44:59,700 of cigarettes. So I'll just wait here. Now just call the god 2526 02:44:59,700 --> 02:45:03,570 yeah. Gotcha. Um, so I'm sitting here, I'm like, these boys can't 2527 02:45:03,570 --> 02:45:09,930 be 21 I mean, baby face with big ass guns. And so I hear a ruckus 2528 02:45:09,930 --> 02:45:13,740 at the door and I'm like, I'm like, Okay, I'm sliding to the 2529 02:45:13,740 --> 02:45:16,890 other exit. I'm like, I'm about to roll out without my sandwich. 2530 02:45:17,130 --> 02:45:20,250 Um, but it was this guy named Nick. I know nicknames now 2531 02:45:20,250 --> 02:45:23,010 because Nick, he's like, What are y'all doing out here like 2532 02:45:23,010 --> 02:45:24,900 this? He's like, you know, saying, dude, you're gonna be 2533 02:45:24,900 --> 02:45:29,460 like your brother. Big black guy. muscular, right? Plenty of 2534 02:45:29,460 --> 02:45:34,020 games. He's counseling these black kids football coach works 2535 02:45:34,020 --> 02:45:38,130 in correctional facilities, and hate and I'm like, after they 2536 02:45:38,130 --> 02:45:41,070 leave, I'm like, Man, I'm like, wow, that was the worst assault. 2537 02:45:41,070 --> 02:45:45,150 Right? That's great. I got Nick's number. So I'm gonna be 2538 02:45:45,150 --> 02:45:48,480 talking to Nick down the line. I just want to give some examples 2539 02:45:48,480 --> 02:45:53,550 as clove. They don't even care no more like the guns were just 2540 02:45:53,550 --> 02:45:56,760 like out like, what it was like Wild Wild West. I mean, that's 2541 02:45:56,760 --> 02:46:00,510 what you know. Like, wow, like, this is like real wild, wild 2542 02:46:00,510 --> 02:46:04,560 west. We blew my mind. But I just wanted to give that you 2543 02:46:04,560 --> 02:46:09,120 know, that anecdote, because it's real. It is real out here. 2544 02:46:09,120 --> 02:46:12,450 And you know, but I digress. But I sorry about that. But oh, 2545 02:46:12,450 --> 02:46:12,750 thank 2546 02:46:12,750 --> 02:46:16,560 you. That's, stories are great to hear. 2547 02:46:16,560 --> 02:46:21,870 All right. So um, let's get back to Donald Trump with number 27. 2548 02:46:22,170 --> 02:46:25,350 Now, we don't have maybe two shoes today. You can't get away 2549 02:46:25,350 --> 02:46:27,840 with it. Nobody, nobody will put out there. But we do have black 2550 02:46:27,840 --> 02:46:30,630 people to get on the radio every day in Why don't companies White 2551 02:46:30,630 --> 02:46:33,210 owned stations with white owned sponsors that play the role of 2552 02:46:33,210 --> 02:46:36,270 hyper sexualized, hyper criminalized male? I asked these 2553 02:46:36,270 --> 02:46:38,700 advertisers say I've got 102 songs a day that celebrate 2554 02:46:38,700 --> 02:46:41,070 killing animals, will you put them on your station? They said 2555 02:46:41,070 --> 02:46:43,800 no, I got hundreds of songs a day that talk about assaulting 2556 02:46:43,800 --> 02:46:47,040 women and abusing kids. Would you put them on your station? 2557 02:46:47,040 --> 02:46:49,620 They said no. I said I got hundreds of songs a day to talk 2558 02:46:49,620 --> 02:46:51,780 about murdering blacks. Would you put them on your stations? 2559 02:46:51,780 --> 02:46:55,860 They say Well, that depends. Depends on what who it's done by 2560 02:46:55,860 --> 02:46:58,500 and who it's branded for. Because we can get black folks 2561 02:46:58,500 --> 02:47:00,480 to sing about it. We can branded for our youngest black 2562 02:47:00,480 --> 02:47:03,150 audiences. I think there's money to be made. I think there's 2563 02:47:03,150 --> 02:47:08,280 American appetites to see these people that way. Yeah, 2564 02:47:08,940 --> 02:47:14,010 yeah, that's how I met when I wasn't invited that meeting. 2565 02:47:16,140 --> 02:47:18,000 So that's so sick, 2566 02:47:18,029 --> 02:47:20,759 you know that that's so sick. I'm sorry. I'm sure you've 2567 02:47:20,789 --> 02:47:24,809 you've read the story about Music Business Insider who 2568 02:47:24,809 --> 02:47:28,259 claims that all of this was predetermined, all the gangsta 2569 02:47:28,259 --> 02:47:31,949 rap, all the violence was was all set in motion by design. 2570 02:47:33,750 --> 02:47:39,270 I'm a believer of one meeting. No, no, it's not a series of 2571 02:47:39,270 --> 02:47:42,420 meetings and people need, you know, nudges that kind of thing? 2572 02:47:42,449 --> 02:47:45,689 Well, I just want to say because it's so hard for people to 2573 02:47:45,689 --> 02:47:51,119 believe that the media actually is controlled and has a message 2574 02:47:51,119 --> 02:47:55,439 that is determined, created or determined. It's determined, and 2575 02:47:55,439 --> 02:48:00,809 is and is intended to be sent down the line. And having worked 2576 02:48:00,809 --> 02:48:05,549 in many for big mainstream broadcast organizations, 2577 02:48:05,579 --> 02:48:10,139 including the one in that was definitely a part of this. Do I 2578 02:48:10,139 --> 02:48:16,349 think that anyone I really knew or interacted with knew about 2579 02:48:16,349 --> 02:48:21,539 some part of this big plan? No. But it was, hey, they want you 2580 02:48:21,539 --> 02:48:24,389 to do this or that? Who's they up the pursuits up at the 2581 02:48:24,389 --> 02:48:30,149 office, and you become desensitized to it? You do. I 2582 02:48:30,149 --> 02:48:33,179 mean, you just, I became desensitized to all kinds of 2583 02:48:33,179 --> 02:48:36,569 stuff. And certainly selling alcohol to a lot of children. 2584 02:48:36,689 --> 02:48:38,879 That was a big part of my job indirectly. 2585 02:48:39,630 --> 02:48:42,660 And we talked about this, the higher ups when we were talking 2586 02:48:42,660 --> 02:48:47,160 about COVID. You know, do this, put them on a ventilator? Who 2587 02:48:47,160 --> 02:48:50,460 told you to do is the higher ups you know, so it's not like 2588 02:48:50,460 --> 02:48:55,710 everybody that worked and worked it off. Philip Morrison are 2589 02:48:55,710 --> 02:48:58,350 these other cigarette companies were complicit, you know, I 2590 02:48:58,350 --> 02:49:03,210 mean, it's not. It's it's very just stay. So basically, when 2591 02:49:03,210 --> 02:49:06,390 you build a Kartell, it has to be compartmentalized. Yes. Where 2592 02:49:06,390 --> 02:49:08,970 everybody doesn't know everything. It's like, Just do 2593 02:49:08,970 --> 02:49:10,500 your job and trust the system. 2594 02:49:11,940 --> 02:49:16,590 Just system is true, but it works by broadcast television 2595 02:49:16,590 --> 02:49:20,820 works that way. And I'm not even saying the people up at the 2596 02:49:20,820 --> 02:49:25,110 office really had the whole the whole scoop on it. Lots of 2597 02:49:25,110 --> 02:49:28,320 influences in the music business. Lots of stuff 2598 02:49:28,320 --> 02:49:33,480 happening. You hear about how sex and drugs and yes, 2599 02:49:33,870 --> 02:49:39,000 blackmail, all that stuff, all of it. All of it happened. Pap 2600 02:49:39,000 --> 02:49:39,060 is 2601 02:49:39,270 --> 02:49:43,350 being it's being unveiled now it's being unveiled because of 2602 02:49:43,350 --> 02:49:43,830 so much 2603 02:49:43,860 --> 02:49:47,730 media. I mean now because of YouTube and because of well, 2604 02:49:47,730 --> 02:49:52,410 because of cameras, camera phones, and handheld devices. 2605 02:49:52,770 --> 02:49:57,240 Now I'm seeing you show me enough street brawls of of 2606 02:49:58,440 --> 02:50:02,160 people shooting at each other I don't like this this is and I'm 2607 02:50:02,190 --> 02:50:05,250 old enough. This is a bunch of damn kids and that yeah, they 2608 02:50:05,250 --> 02:50:08,730 play in them. It's real. But your point going back to the 2609 02:50:08,760 --> 02:50:14,160 start of it was not necessarily hardcore criminals, not little 2610 02:50:14,160 --> 02:50:19,110 yummies. It's a bunch of no dipshits with live ammo. 2611 02:50:22,560 --> 02:50:26,280 Generalization low and lows and no live ammo and low self esteem 2612 02:50:26,280 --> 02:50:29,340 is a deadly combination is a very, very deadly. 2613 02:50:29,939 --> 02:50:36,059 So good luck. Was it live ammo and low self esteem low self 2614 02:50:36,059 --> 02:50:39,779 esteem. That's so good. That's like, that's almost it's better 2615 02:50:39,779 --> 02:50:45,359 than under informed and over socialized? White 2616 02:50:45,390 --> 02:50:50,190 Alright, so um, I guess we can wrap up with Michael Smith, aka 2617 02:50:50,190 --> 02:50:52,230 white Mike, with 28. 2618 02:50:52,679 --> 02:50:54,599 I said, How can you say that? They said, well look at what 2619 02:50:54,599 --> 02:50:57,839 these artists know. It's what they black people create. It's 2620 02:50:57,839 --> 02:50:59,789 matter of fact, our survey say it's what they want to hear, 2621 02:50:59,789 --> 02:51:02,699 which speaks of a sickness, how do we live in a society where 2622 02:51:02,699 --> 02:51:04,919 somebody says, You know what, I'm inspired to write a song 2623 02:51:04,979 --> 02:51:07,319 that celebrates murdering another person. And then a 2624 02:51:07,319 --> 02:51:09,299 person says, I'd like to put that on my station or the 2625 02:51:09,299 --> 02:51:11,729 person, I'd like to pay for it. And then there's people out here 2626 02:51:11,729 --> 02:51:14,129 in the audience that go, I'd love to hear it. As long as it's 2627 02:51:14,129 --> 02:51:17,279 black guys, because even white people buy rap music, buy this 2628 02:51:17,279 --> 02:51:19,589 type of stuff. Because we know that when we want to hear about 2629 02:51:19,589 --> 02:51:22,679 killing each other, we know who to turn to, for that type of 2630 02:51:22,709 --> 02:51:26,429 inspiration. We call it our music. We say we own it. White 2631 02:51:26,429 --> 02:51:28,409 people buy more rap than black people. Yeah. But we're very 2632 02:51:28,409 --> 02:51:30,989 careful to turn it down at the stoplight when other black 2633 02:51:30,989 --> 02:51:33,449 people are there. Why? Because we know we're just pretending 2634 02:51:33,449 --> 02:51:37,379 for them. It's more authentic and real. I always ask the 2635 02:51:37,379 --> 02:51:39,329 company is what about your name? What about your brand? What 2636 02:51:39,329 --> 02:51:41,549 about your value, and the largest radio company in the 2637 02:51:41,549 --> 02:51:44,729 world said this, it's okay, that we only have drug dealers on our 2638 02:51:44,729 --> 02:51:47,069 black youth stations. We only have murders on our black youth 2639 02:51:47,069 --> 02:51:49,949 stations. We support black charities we give out water at 2640 02:51:49,949 --> 02:51:53,219 the Martin Luther King parade. I think we've got it covered. We 2641 02:51:53,219 --> 02:51:53,969 bought them off. 2642 02:51:55,650 --> 02:52:00,600 It never ceases to amaze me how you can take what I think I 2643 02:52:00,600 --> 02:52:03,510 already know about how the world functions, particularly the 2644 02:52:03,510 --> 02:52:08,130 United States. And blow my mind again, by showing me out by like 2645 02:52:08,130 --> 02:52:11,970 this is how big it really is. This is the real system in 2646 02:52:11,970 --> 02:52:15,630 place. This is not systemic racism. This is a systemic death 2647 02:52:15,630 --> 02:52:19,410 machine. That's just that's just churning all day. And it's too 2648 02:52:19,410 --> 02:52:22,320 big for us really to see right in front of our face. 2649 02:52:22,830 --> 02:52:28,020 You had to take a huge that back on a perch. Yeah. And like 2650 02:52:28,020 --> 02:52:32,040 surveyor from bird's eye view to see the whole system. It's all 2651 02:52:32,550 --> 02:52:40,020 big. To what and though it's ultimately in control of all of 2652 02:52:40,020 --> 02:52:40,320 us. 2653 02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:49,320 To what what is this all about? Now that black on black crime 2654 02:52:49,320 --> 02:52:52,980 has become such a hot button issue, that people that had to 2655 02:52:52,980 --> 02:52:59,640 have answers for it. Want to say it's a myth now? Oh, okay. 2656 02:53:00,300 --> 02:53:02,340 There's no such thing as black, black, black crime. That's 2657 02:53:02,340 --> 02:53:05,220 what's so fascinating to me. And I think why people continue to 2658 02:53:05,220 --> 02:53:07,260 respond negatively to that phrase, because it doesn't 2659 02:53:07,260 --> 02:53:10,080 exist. It's a myth. Right? Like, if you actually look at the 2660 02:53:10,080 --> 02:53:13,740 statistics, all violent crimes, the majority of violent crimes 2661 02:53:13,740 --> 02:53:16,830 in this country statistically happen in short, racially, 2662 02:53:16,830 --> 02:53:19,590 right? Because you actually have to look at what inspires crime. 2663 02:53:19,590 --> 02:53:21,600 And the majority of them happen with people who know one 2664 02:53:21,600 --> 02:53:24,390 another, or in close proximity and in communication, but in 2665 02:53:24,420 --> 02:53:26,970 community with one another. So this idea that there's something 2666 02:53:26,970 --> 02:53:31,230 uniquely pathological about black people and the way that 2667 02:53:31,230 --> 02:53:33,420 they commit crimes that is different than the way white 2668 02:53:33,420 --> 02:53:36,090 people commit crimes is it's flat out inaccurate and race. 2669 02:53:36,090 --> 02:53:36,420 Thank 2670 02:53:36,420 --> 02:53:38,760 you. It's a myth. 2671 02:53:40,290 --> 02:53:42,390 It's a myth. And well, no, 2672 02:53:42,390 --> 02:53:45,240 it's kind of interesting, because on the one hand, of 2673 02:53:45,240 --> 02:53:48,930 course, it's happening. On the other hand, is it any you know, 2674 02:53:48,960 --> 02:53:54,360 it's like saying, white guys aren't aren't hurting each other 2675 02:53:54,360 --> 02:53:57,570 and themselves on skateboards? You know, it. It's clearly 2676 02:53:57,570 --> 02:54:01,920 happening. It's just calling, but and you just said, Well, 2677 02:54:01,920 --> 02:54:04,290 they're not necessarily criminal. So is this killing a 2678 02:54:04,290 --> 02:54:07,770 crime? Or is just black on black killing? 2679 02:54:08,369 --> 02:54:12,239 You know, there's all I'm explaining to you how they're 2680 02:54:13,019 --> 02:54:16,409 doing. They're putting this in their 70s. Human pretzel? Yeah, 2681 02:54:16,409 --> 02:54:20,969 get around this black on black crime issue. They'll say, Well, 2682 02:54:20,969 --> 02:54:25,439 black people harm other black people at the same rate. What I 2683 02:54:25,439 --> 02:54:29,399 mean by rate percentage, you know, so 90% of the crimes 2684 02:54:29,399 --> 02:54:31,769 against black people are done by black people will they'll go to 2685 02:54:31,769 --> 02:54:36,179 white people and say, well, 90% of the crimes by white people 2686 02:54:36,179 --> 02:54:41,039 proximity, but we're not talking about the percentage of who the 2687 02:54:41,039 --> 02:54:46,499 victim and who the assailant is. We're talking about the volume 2688 02:54:47,279 --> 02:54:50,789 for us to only be 13% of the population and black men, only 2689 02:54:50,789 --> 02:54:54,719 six and a half percent. The volume of Black Death is 2690 02:54:54,719 --> 02:54:57,239 ridiculous. We'll see. They don't want to talk about that. 2691 02:54:57,239 --> 02:55:00,389 Because if you ask that question you got to add who's We run in 2692 02:55:00,389 --> 02:55:05,399 Baltimore, Chicago, Louisiana, Miami, all these different 2693 02:55:05,399 --> 02:55:08,849 places. And then it goes back spout politics at the end of the 2694 02:55:08,849 --> 02:55:13,079 day. So now the Democrat black Democrats and their flunkies 2695 02:55:13,229 --> 02:55:17,459 have to work themselves often under this pin down called black 2696 02:55:17,459 --> 02:55:20,519 on black crime. So it's now oh, there's no it's a myth. 2697 02:55:23,400 --> 02:55:25,920 Okay, all right, I gotcha cost. That's 2698 02:55:25,920 --> 02:55:28,350 why they don't want black men talking about it. Because when 2699 02:55:28,350 --> 02:55:31,680 we talk about it, we're gonna say, well, who's been in control 2700 02:55:31,680 --> 02:55:35,400 for the last few years and decades? How did he get to this? 2701 02:55:35,490 --> 02:55:37,860 No. And it's like, no, no, no, it's a myth. It's a myth, and 2702 02:55:37,860 --> 02:55:42,630 that's why they want to pivot to cops. It's like, oh, the cops 2703 02:55:42,630 --> 02:55:44,970 the cops are bad. We don't talk when I talk about black on black 2704 02:55:44,970 --> 02:55:48,420 crime anymore. It's a myth. And she's not only what that was for 2705 02:55:48,420 --> 02:55:51,840 HLN I was just gonna say Who was that? Who was that on HBO? I 2706 02:55:51,840 --> 02:55:55,020 don't know her name. She was a Black Lives Matter activists. 2707 02:55:55,020 --> 02:55:58,110 But I think maybe it's show her name. I looked it up we can find 2708 02:55:58,110 --> 02:56:03,300 it. But not only her. We have DL Hughley Sana same thing. 2709 02:56:03,930 --> 02:56:06,120 Every crime committed in the United States of America is two 2710 02:56:06,120 --> 02:56:09,720 to one, black to white, white to black. They actually have more 2711 02:56:09,720 --> 02:56:11,760 white on white crime than black on black crime. But when you 2712 02:56:11,760 --> 02:56:14,430 call it black on black crime, that gives them marching orders, 2713 02:56:14,430 --> 02:56:17,160 never gives them a call to arms. So now they can come and brutal 2714 02:56:17,160 --> 02:56:18,960 because there's a sense of urgency. You'll hear black 2715 02:56:18,960 --> 02:56:23,010 people saying all black on black crime that didn't exist. It 2716 02:56:23,010 --> 02:56:25,830 exists there has to be Asian or Asian, or Latin. Aladdin crew. 2717 02:56:25,860 --> 02:56:29,940 Absolutely. Crime is about proximity. You heard the ones 2718 02:56:29,940 --> 02:56:34,440 you love because you close to them. If you take any any living 2719 02:56:34,440 --> 02:56:37,680 organism, and you put it in a small space with limited 2720 02:56:37,680 --> 02:56:41,100 resources, it will kill anything around it. Yeah, black on black 2721 02:56:41,100 --> 02:56:44,670 crime is nothing but that is biology that she just happened 2722 02:56:44,670 --> 02:56:47,580 on your lawn right now with weeds in the grass, fighting for 2723 02:56:47,580 --> 02:56:50,460 resources, but you believe that you are inferior, because they 2724 02:56:50,460 --> 02:56:52,110 tell you a success thing is black on black when 2725 02:56:55,080 --> 02:56:58,230 you see the treatment plan and guess who DL Hughley worked for 2726 02:56:58,440 --> 02:57:02,820 a major radio company? I'm sure that they peddle in blacks, 2727 02:57:03,180 --> 02:57:07,170 smart music, smart music. I mean, it's not me excuse me 2728 02:57:07,170 --> 02:57:12,810 snuff music? Oh, excuse me? Yes. Well, it can be smart, too. It 2729 02:57:12,810 --> 02:57:17,880 depends on like snuff? Yeah, yes. Black snuff music? I mean, 2730 02:57:18,120 --> 02:57:20,520 he won't call it out. Because then he has to call out his 2731 02:57:20,520 --> 02:57:23,850 sponsors and the record labels and all that. So now and then 2732 02:57:23,850 --> 02:57:26,880 the politicians like where are y'all at when is going on? So 2733 02:57:26,880 --> 02:57:29,130 now it's like, Oh, it doesn't say snug. I want to break down 2734 02:57:29,130 --> 02:57:32,130 the math right quick. He says one on a two out of every three 2735 02:57:32,130 --> 02:57:37,140 crimes are two to one is black, white to black. So every for 2736 02:57:37,140 --> 02:57:40,080 every three crowns to two are done by white people don't know 2737 02:57:40,080 --> 02:57:43,530 why we are done by black people. We're only 13% of the 2738 02:57:43,530 --> 02:57:47,460 population. I mean, I know a little bit about math to tell 2739 02:57:47,460 --> 02:57:49,350 you that it's way out of proportion. 2740 02:57:50,760 --> 02:57:58,080 Calling it snuff songs is a very good is a very good idea. If you 2741 02:57:58,080 --> 02:58:03,780 say snuff film, people freak the fuck out. That's a snuff, 2742 02:58:03,810 --> 02:58:09,330 Snowflake, snowflake snuff film, to say to snuff song? Is what 2743 02:58:09,330 --> 02:58:11,940 the hell was that? What do you think of when snowflake? Well, 2744 02:58:11,940 --> 02:58:14,460 that's really Yes, this is That's enough songs, go listen 2745 02:58:14,490 --> 02:58:18,420 to it, listen to it, listen to it, listen to it. I just wanted 2746 02:58:18,420 --> 02:58:21,750 to say we need to use that or something like it's not a great 2747 02:58:21,750 --> 02:58:25,590 word. It triggers people, it could be useful. 2748 02:58:27,540 --> 02:58:30,120 I'll make it I'll make a note of that. Because that's exactly 2749 02:58:30,120 --> 02:58:32,340 what it is. That's what comes to mind. Like I said, that's what 2750 02:58:32,340 --> 02:58:36,090 comes to mind when I hear it. Now, I'm not saying that. I 2751 02:58:36,090 --> 02:58:41,250 don't enjoy rap music, but I have a mature enough mind. And I 2752 02:58:41,250 --> 02:58:44,430 had a two parent household to wit and tolerated. So obviously 2753 02:58:44,430 --> 02:58:46,530 it tells me something's not right about it. But you know 2754 02:58:46,530 --> 02:58:49,230 what, it's still enjoyable. But it was still the balance there 2755 02:58:49,230 --> 02:58:51,720 to say, hey, it's something I'd write about it because I got to 2756 02:58:51,720 --> 02:58:54,510 listen to my Walkman and not in the car with my mom and dad. 2757 02:58:54,540 --> 02:58:57,660 Right? You know, I mean, there's that balance there. Why can't 2758 02:58:57,660 --> 02:59:00,750 you like, why can't you like Lionel Richie? He's such a nice 2759 02:59:00,750 --> 02:59:01,230 young man. 2760 02:59:08,400 --> 02:59:13,710 Richie, well, yes, that's, that's what it is. And I've know 2761 02:59:13,710 --> 02:59:17,280 I've been building up to this. And we're gonna get to what the 2762 02:59:17,280 --> 02:59:20,730 root of the problem is. But first, we got to continue to 2763 02:59:20,760 --> 02:59:25,050 think more value for value producers. Understand that 2764 02:59:25,050 --> 02:59:29,640 there's some people out there who need my services. They need 2765 02:59:29,640 --> 02:59:33,390 people out there who are weak. people out there who are weird 2766 02:59:34,560 --> 02:59:40,020 people out there who are out there who just need to hear 2767 02:59:41,490 --> 02:59:42,450 y'all got kids 2768 02:59:50,460 --> 02:59:53,220 All right, time to thank the rest of our producers for 2769 02:59:53,220 --> 02:59:58,530 episode number 48 of moe facts with Adam curry. Well, y'all, we 2770 02:59:58,530 --> 03:00:02,340 always love you The Crooked Reverend kicking off a donation 2771 03:00:02,340 --> 03:00:07,050 segment. Again, we're going to read out some of your notes and 2772 03:00:07,050 --> 03:00:10,230 names here and this is well explained value for value in 2773 03:00:10,230 --> 03:00:13,020 case you haven't at the end of the segment and Rudolph Dolph is 2774 03:00:13,020 --> 03:00:17,190 next. Duff, I'm sorry 4825. And he says guys, excellent show. As 2775 03:00:17,190 --> 03:00:20,460 always, I've been looking for a show that honestly discusses 2776 03:00:20,460 --> 03:00:23,730 race related issues. The added value that having two different 2777 03:00:23,730 --> 03:00:27,390 races speaking about the subject is amazing. I live in the 2778 03:00:27,390 --> 03:00:30,900 Northern Virginia area. Hope you hope there's a meet up there 2779 03:00:30,900 --> 03:00:34,740 soon. Please deduce me? Well, we don't deduce we d deadbeat. 2780 03:00:36,690 --> 03:00:41,880 Congratulation. You're no longer a deadbeat. 2781 03:00:42,360 --> 03:00:46,470 Thank you for supporting us Rudolph. Mrs. Kings art camp 2782 03:00:47,010 --> 03:00:52,230 40 8:25am I missing something on the FortiGate 25. Mo. 2783 03:00:52,740 --> 03:00:56,490 No, I was worn. Maybe a show 48 Show? 2784 03:00:57,180 --> 03:01:02,550 Show. I think these 48 and 4820 size should be that should be 2785 03:01:02,550 --> 03:01:05,700 show numbers. For sure. Mo fax is the best podcast out there. 2786 03:01:05,700 --> 03:01:08,490 Thank you for your wisdom in these uncertain times. Keep up 2787 03:01:08,490 --> 03:01:13,560 the great works as Ellen King. Dorothy, she wrote $48 Making my 2788 03:01:13,560 --> 03:01:15,900 way through old episodes while waiting for the new looking 2789 03:01:15,900 --> 03:01:19,440 forward to 48. Here you are. And I guess that is a show episode 2790 03:01:19,440 --> 03:01:23,640 donation. No note from Nicholas Ray but $45 from Nicholas. Thank 2791 03:01:23,640 --> 03:01:27,930 you, Betty Solero $40 Thanks, Mona Adam. She says I sent 40 2792 03:01:27,930 --> 03:01:31,500 via PayPal, please. No, I wish I could add another zero on that 2793 03:01:31,500 --> 03:01:35,010 donation to truly represent the value I have found in your 2794 03:01:35,010 --> 03:01:40,350 podcast. Let me just say for a read on value for value is 2795 03:01:40,380 --> 03:01:45,450 exactly what you're talking about. That's the $40 is clearly 2796 03:01:45,450 --> 03:01:49,950 huge value for you. That's good for us. That is exactly what it 2797 03:01:49,950 --> 03:01:54,930 is. No more is necessary. Thank you. That is that is how it 2798 03:01:54,930 --> 03:02:00,240 works. And that's what makes it so fair and great. The last 2799 03:02:00,240 --> 03:02:04,140 killer Wasp podcast that episode ultimately the most frightening. 2800 03:02:04,440 --> 03:02:07,230 Malcolm X would have been proud to hear discussion the black man 2801 03:02:07,230 --> 03:02:10,770 was having with the white man. Almost forgot mo karma, please. 2802 03:02:12,840 --> 03:02:13,560 You've got 2803 03:02:16,290 --> 03:02:19,110 that's very meaningful. Thank you. Betty. That's very nice of 2804 03:02:19,110 --> 03:02:23,010 you to say that Connor Lawrence 3535 Love and Light gents. I 2805 03:02:23,010 --> 03:02:26,070 hope you're all doing well. Mo how is the new human slash 2806 03:02:26,070 --> 03:02:27,540 canine resource? 2807 03:02:28,770 --> 03:02:32,400 Morocco is doing great. He's doing great Morocco. 2808 03:02:33,030 --> 03:02:35,460 Yes, I thought it was Rocco. It's Morocco. 2809 03:02:35,580 --> 03:02:38,190 It's yeah, it's short for a short for we call it Morocco 2810 03:02:38,190 --> 03:02:41,340 which is actual name or his paperwork is Morocco. 2811 03:02:41,370 --> 03:02:46,350 Okay. No, yes. Yes. Paperwork. Very nice. Also, Mo What's your 2812 03:02:46,350 --> 03:02:49,890 thoughts on the new round of NBA protests? Is that something for 2813 03:02:49,890 --> 03:02:51,360 a whole show by itself? Maybe. 2814 03:02:52,230 --> 03:02:56,040 What do you mean by protests? You mean playing players? Yeah, 2815 03:02:56,040 --> 03:03:00,240 I think so. Not playing and then playing when you're told to play 2816 03:03:00,270 --> 03:03:02,610 that mean that was a sucker move you're gonna if you're not going 2817 03:03:02,610 --> 03:03:05,220 to play don't play right. I mean, they just they make they 2818 03:03:05,220 --> 03:03:06,270 they embarrass themselves 2819 03:03:06,330 --> 03:03:09,870 I think I agree. I think they I think they hurt the whole game 2820 03:03:09,870 --> 03:03:09,990 that's 2821 03:03:09,990 --> 03:03:11,490 the short answer that's the short answer Yeah. 2822 03:03:12,630 --> 03:03:15,930 Kind of goes on Adam happy freakin birthday good sir. Thank 2823 03:03:15,930 --> 03:03:19,740 you my name requests mo karma for you and your birthday. Is 2824 03:03:19,740 --> 03:03:24,180 this is Mo karma speak now birthday as I pray and wish this 2825 03:03:24,180 --> 03:03:26,730 year is a great one for you my friend. Thank you and if 2826 03:03:26,730 --> 03:03:30,300 possible, can I get a little goat who saw for myself and 2827 03:03:30,300 --> 03:03:33,480 Alyssa, where Lisa? Keep with the fabulous work guys. I'm 2828 03:03:33,480 --> 03:03:35,850 truly blessed to hear your work and I can't wait to hear where 2829 03:03:35,850 --> 03:03:39,330 the rabbit hole was taken Moby well and be with God with love 2830 03:03:39,330 --> 03:03:43,980 and reverence your friend Connor thank you so much, buddy. You've 2831 03:03:43,980 --> 03:03:44,250 got 2832 03:03:51,090 --> 03:03:55,710 Chuck Barnett 3333 Thank you both for the outstanding content 2833 03:03:55,710 --> 03:03:59,760 and enlightenment can't tell how many times I've hit the rewind 2834 03:03:59,760 --> 03:04:04,170 bid button after Wait. Wait one moment. While listening to 2835 03:04:04,170 --> 03:04:08,040 episodes 44 and 45 puzzle together many disjointed 2836 03:04:08,040 --> 03:04:12,810 thoughts for me? I had finally I finally had to donate. Like Adam 2837 03:04:12,810 --> 03:04:17,100 I am a 1964 borderline Boomer music business dad with two ex 2838 03:04:17,100 --> 03:04:20,640 wives and a happy third crap man. Are you living my shadow 2839 03:04:20,640 --> 03:04:24,120 life? Between a dozen years of no agenda? He's a monthly 2840 03:04:24,120 --> 03:04:27,630 subscriber. Thank you. And now mo facts I can say my life and 2841 03:04:27,630 --> 03:04:31,830 amygdala are pretty balanced. Mo karma for everybody. Chuck B 2842 03:04:31,830 --> 03:04:34,950 man, thank you so much. That is a great note. I appreciate it. 2843 03:04:34,980 --> 03:04:36,330 And I identify with it. 2844 03:04:36,630 --> 03:04:37,350 You've got 2845 03:04:40,590 --> 03:04:44,700 Jacob Harvey 3333 Thank you both for this conversation. I don't 2846 03:04:44,700 --> 03:04:49,980 hear it from anyone else. No, I don't think you do. We have 2847 03:04:50,010 --> 03:04:55,230 Katie who also sent us 3333 GMO and Adam. Six months ago I was 2848 03:04:55,230 --> 03:04:58,650 one of the uninformed over socialized millennials that Adam 2849 03:04:58,680 --> 03:05:02,760 often refers to In all honesty, I probably still am but this 2850 03:05:02,760 --> 03:05:06,630 show is of no, no, no, I don't think so. This show has helped 2851 03:05:06,630 --> 03:05:10,620 me to begin opening my eyes and thinking for myself. I just 2852 03:05:10,620 --> 03:05:13,440 finished cat catching up on every single episode and I can't 2853 03:05:13,440 --> 03:05:16,290 thank you enough for what you do each week. Also shout out to my 2854 03:05:16,290 --> 03:05:19,680 mentor Eric for introducing me to the show. Can we get some mo 2855 03:05:19,680 --> 03:05:23,070 karma for productive and successful semester? Yes, 2856 03:05:23,070 --> 03:05:27,420 absolutely. And let us know who this Eric is Eric is is doing 2857 03:05:27,420 --> 03:05:28,080 some work. 2858 03:05:28,710 --> 03:05:31,050 So we like they are definitely doing the work we definitely 2859 03:05:31,050 --> 03:05:31,710 doing the word 2860 03:05:31,710 --> 03:05:34,770 love here in that thank you very much appreciate the support. 2861 03:05:37,020 --> 03:05:41,640 Chef Elvis up next Elvis Rosenberg 3333 No, no, but not 2862 03:05:41,640 --> 03:05:44,250 needed. We know all about your chef. Thank you. Jonathan. 2863 03:05:44,250 --> 03:05:48,990 Ashcraft 3330 killer wasps GBG your shows have been very 2864 03:05:48,990 --> 03:05:53,040 illuminating. Thank you. I am no longer a dB. Well, in that case. 2865 03:05:54,360 --> 03:05:59,640 Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. 2866 03:06:01,080 --> 03:06:05,730 Love. Matthews dice are $25 Mon Adam Great show thank you for 2867 03:06:05,730 --> 03:06:08,340 the work keep it up more to come karma for all. 2868 03:06:10,560 --> 03:06:11,340 You've got 2869 03:06:13,410 --> 03:06:19,020 $25 from picots Pascal St. Louis or sleep mat Baja. $25. You are 2870 03:06:19,020 --> 03:06:23,040 doing the Lord's work MO You and Dan Carlin are the only factual 2871 03:06:23,040 --> 03:06:26,430 informational podcasts out there. Not quite a compliment. 2872 03:06:26,730 --> 03:06:30,690 Bob klein $25 My brothers Mo and Adam I so very much appreciate 2873 03:06:30,690 --> 03:06:33,540 what you do. I wish I could give more. Thanks for the vaccine 2874 03:06:33,540 --> 03:06:37,410 episode you guys and RFK Jr. Keep my head together. We do 2875 03:06:37,410 --> 03:06:40,050 have a chance against the imposed cultural degradation 2876 03:06:40,050 --> 03:06:46,440 piece as Bob syncytia flood $25 Thank you Clinton 23 Good call 2877 03:06:46,440 --> 03:06:52,800 on crackers versus mayonnaise. Is there something I missed 2878 03:06:52,800 --> 03:06:54,900 about crackers? And man I think 2879 03:06:54,900 --> 03:06:58,470 he's talking about the racial racial Civil War II 2880 03:07:00,720 --> 03:07:04,950 versus me in a good call. Indeed. I said that to Rogan, 2881 03:07:04,950 --> 03:07:08,100 too. That's how I started my buddy my buddy Moe. He says this 2882 03:07:08,100 --> 03:07:11,490 is a white white guy Civil War. He's stepping back I said okay. 2883 03:07:12,780 --> 03:07:20,370 Nice. It was the crackers versus Manet's war. Pierce LLC. Take 2884 03:07:20,370 --> 03:07:25,800 that now. 2222 Thank you. Paul E Lovato blessings to all $20.02 2885 03:07:26,130 --> 03:07:30,960 Nice. Palindrome Michael silk $20. Paul Rothwell $20 Hey Mo 2886 03:07:30,960 --> 03:07:33,720 and Adam would love to hear most take on this is America by 2887 03:07:33,720 --> 03:07:38,940 Childish Gambino Keep up the great work. Wow, kind of does 2888 03:07:38,940 --> 03:07:43,680 fit in in this episode that video was was well it was 2889 03:07:43,680 --> 03:07:50,850 intense, dramatic and Thanks, Obama. Yeah, it was kind of 2890 03:07:51,330 --> 03:07:55,350 traumatic, very traumatic. I guess that's enough said right. 2891 03:07:57,270 --> 03:07:59,070 Let's say it's play me. Mo and I 2892 03:07:59,070 --> 03:08:03,060 sometimes just send a link in in the letters TBE. That's all we 2893 03:08:03,060 --> 03:08:08,100 need to say trauma based entertainment. Surely Fife $20. 2894 03:08:08,100 --> 03:08:10,680 Many thanks for doing the work enjoy the show lots of insights 2895 03:08:10,680 --> 03:08:14,310 and new perspectives. America is like an alien planet from my 2896 03:08:14,310 --> 03:08:18,090 home in Northern Ireland and completely fascinating. Sadly, 2897 03:08:18,090 --> 03:08:20,940 it has started to resemble the hunger games lately and I worry 2898 03:08:20,940 --> 03:08:26,340 for you all peace and love surely will be okay. America has 2899 03:08:26,340 --> 03:08:29,790 gone through a lot of crazy stuff. I will say I'm quite 2900 03:08:29,790 --> 03:08:33,270 impressed by what I saw in Ireland with of the the lockdown 2901 03:08:33,270 --> 03:08:36,930 protests. So there is something we can learn from y'all and that 2902 03:08:36,930 --> 03:08:40,860 is appreciate the note and the support Michael Myers $20 Bobby 2903 03:08:40,860 --> 03:08:46,980 flush $20 says thanks for the education. And then let me see 2904 03:08:47,040 --> 03:08:51,180 what do you have here Jeffrey Lund 1776 This is donation 2905 03:08:51,180 --> 03:08:53,670 message received I could use a D dead beating. 2906 03:08:55,590 --> 03:09:00,570 Congrats congratulations. You're no longer dead be 2907 03:09:00,630 --> 03:09:04,020 also wondering if this will alleviate me of any white guilt? 2908 03:09:04,290 --> 03:09:10,110 No, of course not. The show will to help you do that. Then you 2909 03:09:10,110 --> 03:09:15,390 will have white vigor of things that can be done. Thanks for all 2910 03:09:15,390 --> 03:09:17,820 the information you provide. I wish I could donate more now 2911 03:09:17,820 --> 03:09:20,670 you're doing exactly what you can and we appreciate it Sasha 2912 03:09:20,670 --> 03:09:23,370 right $15 Keep up the good work y'all are putting out great 2913 03:09:23,370 --> 03:09:27,060 content thank you for all you do God bless invaluable This 2914 03:09:27,060 --> 03:09:30,630 podcast is something all people should listen to listen to thank 2915 03:09:30,630 --> 03:09:33,330 you mo for reaching out to Adam and thank you Adam for bringing 2916 03:09:33,330 --> 03:09:36,870 it into my family's life It's not much but here's some new 2917 03:09:36,870 --> 03:09:43,170 money mo keep casting I really love new money mo keep casting 2918 03:09:43,170 --> 03:09:46,290 light on the lies that tried to keep all American from coming 2919 03:09:46,290 --> 03:09:51,540 together sir site komikko Psycho Miko nice note thank you very 2920 03:09:51,540 --> 03:09:57,570 much. It's really really kind of you. Now did I combine to there 2921 03:09:57,570 --> 03:10:00,540 accidentally I didn't. I did. Sir. So Miko and I Did this 2922 03:10:00,570 --> 03:10:03,990 washer right in the same I'm not sure it's confusing. Yes she 2923 03:10:03,990 --> 03:10:08,910 wound up with God bless okay $10.33 from Patrick stays yakin, 2924 03:10:08,910 --> 03:10:13,920 Saginaw, Michigan Brian Conte $10 Top Notch he says thank you 2925 03:10:13,920 --> 03:10:18,240 john corn forth 10 Scott Webb 10 You have no agenda or melting my 2926 03:10:18,240 --> 03:10:21,450 brain good. That's the intent. Keep up the good works as bear 2927 03:10:21,450 --> 03:10:26,730 and Turner and we have $10 from Cyrus Esau William Hawthorne $5 2928 03:10:26,730 --> 03:10:33,240 Andrew caver $5 Terry Keller 411 actually twice, so 822 and 2929 03:10:33,240 --> 03:10:36,930 winding up the road, there is Roberto Donald, great job again, 2930 03:10:36,930 --> 03:10:41,460 $2.50 Thank you all so much for the value you have provided us 2931 03:10:41,460 --> 03:10:44,970 here, especially because you waited so extra long for this 2932 03:10:44,970 --> 03:10:49,500 show. And I think a delivery has been made. And we're not even 2933 03:10:49,500 --> 03:10:52,980 done yet. This is usually after this segment is when my head 2934 03:10:52,980 --> 03:10:57,150 blows off my shoulder. So I'm ready for that this is 2935 03:10:57,450 --> 03:10:58,560 go and put down a tarp. 2936 03:11:02,610 --> 03:11:06,840 This is a value from value production. And the value we get 2937 03:11:07,110 --> 03:11:10,710 from you is not just the donations, it's the it's the 2938 03:11:10,710 --> 03:11:14,250 notes, then these are very important to us very dear and we 2939 03:11:14,250 --> 03:11:19,230 love sharing them. Keep them as short as you can. But when 2940 03:11:19,230 --> 03:11:22,200 they're personal, it's just it's very nice to share and it's 2941 03:11:22,230 --> 03:11:26,820 appreciated. Please consider us for the next episode support us 2942 03:11:26,820 --> 03:11:29,970 by going to mo facts.com or directly to our donation page. 2943 03:11:30,210 --> 03:11:35,790 Mo fund me.com Emma Moe f u n d m e.com. And thank you again for 2944 03:11:35,790 --> 03:11:37,620 supporting episode 48. 2945 03:11:39,960 --> 03:11:43,470 Well, this is the portion of the show that we get to discuss the 2946 03:11:43,470 --> 03:11:48,540 gender war that's going on going on months amongst so called 2947 03:11:48,540 --> 03:11:52,620 black people. Okay. And to set that up, we have to go back to 2948 03:11:52,890 --> 03:11:56,730 show 38 is a throwback clip. And this is from the Washington 2949 03:11:56,730 --> 03:12:01,800 Post. And this is the black women from black ink. I mean 2950 03:12:01,800 --> 03:12:07,440 make that clear. Telling body you need black women voters. 2951 03:12:07,830 --> 03:12:12,720 Vice President Biden you need us you owe us remember, 2952 03:12:13,560 --> 03:12:16,230 black women are miracle workers. 2953 03:12:16,350 --> 03:12:21,990 We have been saving the Democratic Party since 1965 2020 2954 03:12:22,020 --> 03:12:25,800 is no different. Your only path to victory is through black 2955 03:12:25,800 --> 03:12:26,130 women, 2956 03:12:26,460 --> 03:12:29,490 the voters who need to turn out, we know how to mobilize them. 2957 03:12:29,790 --> 03:12:31,890 Our votes must not be taken for granted. 2958 03:12:34,740 --> 03:12:38,160 The following commitments will begin to show black voters that 2959 03:12:38,160 --> 03:12:40,200 you are serious about us 2960 03:12:40,350 --> 03:12:43,650 America needs a black woman vice president 2961 03:12:44,160 --> 03:12:48,060 candidates like Amy Klobuchar will not energize us. 2962 03:12:49,320 --> 03:12:51,450 America needs a black woman's 2963 03:12:52,680 --> 03:12:55,620 justice. Remember Anita Hill? We do. 2964 03:12:56,190 --> 03:13:00,030 America needs more in a comprehensive Black Agenda. 2965 03:13:00,270 --> 03:13:03,300 The rules are rigged against our communities. 2966 03:13:04,050 --> 03:13:05,940 Wow, who put that together? 2967 03:13:06,930 --> 03:13:10,710 This is the Washington Post and it had all that yes, I remember 2968 03:13:10,710 --> 03:13:17,910 it was who it was the Angela MRI. The lady from Black? Black 2969 03:13:17,910 --> 03:13:23,400 votes matter? Yeah. A lot. A lot of bool. A lot of the Black 2970 03:13:23,400 --> 03:13:26,880 Witch Coven in Hollywood, the Boulais Broadcasting 2971 03:13:26,910 --> 03:13:30,780 Corporation. Yeah, so one reason why I had to set this up using 2972 03:13:30,780 --> 03:13:39,000 this clip is they gained so much clout and leverage from the 2973 03:13:39,000 --> 03:13:45,900 black dead body of George Floyd. Every minute that cops knees 2974 03:13:45,900 --> 03:13:50,640 stayed on George Floyd's neck, their value and leveraging went 2975 03:13:50,670 --> 03:13:55,920 up. And this is the grant X they use from that leverage. Not 2976 03:13:55,920 --> 03:13:59,880 criminal justice not you know, killing black men. None of that. 2977 03:14:00,120 --> 03:14:02,460 We want a female black president. I mean, our Vice 2978 03:14:02,460 --> 03:14:06,210 President. Well, you know what, it's a Freudian slip, but it 2979 03:14:06,210 --> 03:14:09,420 might be accurate because Joe Biden's conviction. I think 2980 03:14:09,420 --> 03:14:12,270 that's why I keep I keep I keep wanting to say it I think you 2981 03:14:12,270 --> 03:14:19,800 know, the truth wants to come out. Exactly. But black female 2982 03:14:20,040 --> 03:14:23,340 Supreme Court Justice is black female, there's black female 2983 03:14:23,340 --> 03:14:27,930 that stuff. Now you're using the leverage of a dead black man on 2984 03:14:27,930 --> 03:14:34,680 the street caught on film being a brutally murdered, allegedly. 2985 03:14:34,710 --> 03:14:37,380 I mean are you know, I mean, I know for legal reasons. We had 2986 03:14:37,380 --> 03:14:41,460 to, you know, say say things a certain way. But every like I 2987 03:14:41,460 --> 03:14:44,670 say every minute that needs stayed on that neck, their value 2988 03:14:44,970 --> 03:14:48,480 went up and they're like, we're gonna capitalize on this and go 2989 03:14:48,480 --> 03:14:52,290 for the big ask. And that's what they that's what they came up 2990 03:14:52,290 --> 03:14:56,160 with nothing contributing to the plight of black men nothing 2991 03:14:56,160 --> 03:15:00,750 contributing to the environments that cause the What we've laid 2992 03:15:00,750 --> 03:15:04,710 out as black on black crime. Now we want to rise the female vice 2993 03:15:04,710 --> 03:15:07,530 by black female vice president. That's what we want. Not even a 2994 03:15:07,530 --> 03:15:10,500 black vice president. They didn't go there. They were just 2995 03:15:10,500 --> 03:15:14,580 like, we want a female. Yeah. So what this what you're seeing is, 2996 03:15:14,910 --> 03:15:19,530 black women are becoming their own demographic, separate from 2997 03:15:19,530 --> 03:15:24,480 black men and power base and power base, but only one they 2998 03:15:24,480 --> 03:15:28,890 may want it miscalculation, their understanding of math. And 2999 03:15:28,890 --> 03:15:32,100 it's the same one as us on black on black crime. What do they 3000 03:15:32,100 --> 03:15:39,300 say, Hey, we vote 1990 95% into voting. are black women vote 3001 03:15:39,300 --> 03:15:44,220 democratically? Yeah, but you don't have the volume. You need 3002 03:15:44,220 --> 03:15:49,620 the black male vote, the volume of votes to make action happen. 3003 03:15:49,890 --> 03:15:53,100 And black men are saying no, no, no, no, no, we're tired of being 3004 03:15:53,100 --> 03:15:59,430 used. This is what you're witnessing right now. And I 3005 03:15:59,430 --> 03:16:03,960 found an interesting clip from Dr. T. Hassan Johnson, this is 3006 03:16:03,960 --> 03:16:10,920 another brother on YouTube. But he's a professor, very 3007 03:16:10,920 --> 03:16:15,060 informative. And he coined this term, I've never heard it 3008 03:16:15,060 --> 03:16:18,480 before. I looked all over, I never heard anybody else. Use 3009 03:16:18,480 --> 03:16:20,940 it. So if you hear anybody else use it, we got to give this 3010 03:16:20,940 --> 03:16:23,970 brother credit for it. And it's called the COC you serve. 3011 03:16:24,480 --> 03:16:27,090 So as you can see today, and we're talking about the reality 3012 03:16:27,090 --> 03:16:31,170 of black men's disposable role as CompuServe. So I've covered 3013 03:16:31,170 --> 03:16:35,130 this in another show, the whole concept of khaki serves is 3014 03:16:35,160 --> 03:16:38,700 bringing together two basic ideas, the concubine and the 3015 03:16:38,700 --> 03:16:41,400 surf. And this, in many ways has to do with the social 3016 03:16:41,400 --> 03:16:44,610 expectation of black men, both in the largest society, but more 3017 03:16:44,610 --> 03:16:47,670 particularly within black America. The idea that black men 3018 03:16:47,670 --> 03:16:50,850 are not only disposable, but their roles are to serve as 3019 03:16:50,850 --> 03:16:55,860 sexual concubines, as well as serfs, right, who are really 3020 03:16:55,860 --> 03:16:59,190 just designed to serve you lift bear that tote so on and so 3021 03:16:59,190 --> 03:17:02,820 forth. The disposability, right, so the idea of the coffee serve, 3022 03:17:02,850 --> 03:17:07,530 and how our lives and our deaths can be taken for taking for 3023 03:17:07,530 --> 03:17:10,680 granted. We don't talk as much about our lives, because there's 3024 03:17:10,680 --> 03:17:14,100 all kinds of consciousness contestation and shaming that 3025 03:17:14,100 --> 03:17:16,860 goes on, we talk about what black men experience in their 3026 03:17:16,860 --> 03:17:21,450 own community. Right. But it but it's clearly evident in our 3027 03:17:21,450 --> 03:17:25,110 deaths, how we're perceived, and how our deaths are often used 3028 03:17:25,200 --> 03:17:28,020 for everybody's advancement, but black men themselves. And one of 3029 03:17:28,020 --> 03:17:30,840 the biggest indicators of that is how much policy has been 3030 03:17:30,840 --> 03:17:33,630 developed in the last few decades to stem the tide of 3031 03:17:33,630 --> 03:17:37,560 those deaths. Right. Very little. And yet and still, the 3032 03:17:37,560 --> 03:17:41,460 social expectations play on. Wow, 3033 03:17:42,180 --> 03:17:45,960 no, I have not heard CompuServe. Now, if you had to define 3034 03:17:45,960 --> 03:17:48,360 CompuServe, how would you now define that? 3035 03:17:48,390 --> 03:17:54,210 Okay, so black man have two purposes. For these class of 3036 03:17:54,210 --> 03:18:00,270 people, either were used for sexual purposes. That's why, you 3037 03:18:00,270 --> 03:18:04,650 know, you know, you know, this stereotype, whether it's true or 3038 03:18:04,650 --> 03:18:14,550 not, and then basically, slaves do this, fix this. Shut up, 3039 03:18:14,580 --> 03:18:21,840 don't make any noise. Basically, the underclass were the were the 3040 03:18:21,840 --> 03:18:26,820 floor of the floor. And that I say that in all seriousness, and 3041 03:18:26,820 --> 03:18:31,440 these black eight women, you hope to use, like I said that 3042 03:18:31,470 --> 03:18:35,790 the only value George Floyd could bring into this world is 3043 03:18:35,790 --> 03:18:37,920 dying. That's it. 3044 03:18:37,949 --> 03:18:40,559 Yeah. Where does the con Q come from? 3045 03:18:41,580 --> 03:18:46,320 Kochi buy from concubine. Yeah. And then serve? 3046 03:18:48,120 --> 03:18:50,310 As Yes. S E RF. Yes, I got it. 3047 03:18:50,340 --> 03:18:54,210 Yes. So when he coined this term, this is what turned my 3048 03:18:54,210 --> 03:18:55,650 whole show. Just so 3049 03:18:55,650 --> 03:18:58,590 people know. I'm sorry. I just want people to understand that 3050 03:18:58,590 --> 03:19:02,400 not everyone knows concubine. Just want to give you the bond 3051 03:19:02,400 --> 03:19:07,830 is like a great place. It's a woman who lives with a man, but 3052 03:19:07,830 --> 03:19:10,740 has lower status than his wife or wives. 3053 03:19:13,350 --> 03:19:15,900 So that goes to the point that we're not good enough to be 3054 03:19:15,900 --> 03:19:20,550 husbands. Yeah. But to be flaunted as sick, and there's 3055 03:19:20,550 --> 03:19:24,390 this weird parallel between the white woman and the black man. 3056 03:19:24,930 --> 03:19:30,060 We're kinda in the same position in our respective races, because 3057 03:19:30,060 --> 03:19:34,860 I told you we live in a matriarchy. Why society is the 3058 03:19:34,860 --> 03:19:39,060 patriarchy, black society is a matriarchy. So black men are 3059 03:19:39,060 --> 03:19:45,570 expected to behave the same way. As in Oh, and I'm generalizing 3060 03:19:45,570 --> 03:19:51,270 here a lot. But the same docile, be quiet the same way white 3061 03:19:51,270 --> 03:19:54,720 women are expected to be portrayed to be, you know, like 3062 03:19:54,720 --> 03:19:59,370 the, you know, you know, they say white women you know, 3063 03:19:59,400 --> 03:20:02,700 they're very very submissive, that kind of thing. Black men 3064 03:20:02,700 --> 03:20:05,490 are expected to be that counterpart on the black side. 3065 03:20:06,240 --> 03:20:07,980 So that's where the khaki serve comes from. Got 3066 03:20:07,980 --> 03:20:10,260 it? Got it. Wow. 3067 03:20:11,759 --> 03:20:17,129 So when I heard this clip, it illustrated and encapsulated 3068 03:20:17,159 --> 03:20:20,069 everything I want it to say. And I was like, You know what I had 3069 03:20:20,069 --> 03:20:23,489 to show done. I had to show right when I called you. Yeah, I 3070 03:20:23,489 --> 03:20:27,269 was like, ready to roll? And then I heard this, and I was 3071 03:20:27,269 --> 03:20:35,249 like, No, you got to tear all the way down. Yeah, it's far 3072 03:20:35,249 --> 03:20:37,799 more important to have this nice done. Oh, people are saying, 3073 03:20:37,799 --> 03:20:42,239 well, Mo, that's kind of far fetched. What are you saying? 3074 03:20:43,649 --> 03:20:49,589 What I'm saying is, black men are used for sacrifice. For 3075 03:20:49,589 --> 03:20:52,469 other demographics to progress into whiteness. 3076 03:20:53,369 --> 03:20:57,419 Black men are used for sacrifice for other demographics, to what? 3077 03:20:58,289 --> 03:21:01,709 progress into whiteness. So these group of women, they're 3078 03:21:01,709 --> 03:21:06,569 trying to get into whiteness. So it's like, yeah, we'll use the 3079 03:21:06,569 --> 03:21:10,559 same way Democrats used to use black people. It's just, it's 3080 03:21:10,559 --> 03:21:14,279 just internally now. You know, there were for Queens there, 3081 03:21:14,279 --> 03:21:16,889 blah, blah, blah. They're this they're that they're illiterate, 3082 03:21:16,919 --> 03:21:19,649 you know, poor poor, black people, poor black people, white 3083 03:21:19,679 --> 03:21:23,729 white Democrats used to do that. But now as black women have 3084 03:21:23,729 --> 03:21:26,489 blacking let me be clear, because a lot of sisters out 3085 03:21:26,489 --> 03:21:30,149 here their allies. And I want to point out and if you look at our 3086 03:21:30,149 --> 03:21:33,719 donation list, I think a lot of women get it. Yes. Because we 3087 03:21:33,719 --> 03:21:38,969 have a very balanced support. Yes, I agree. So I want to make 3088 03:21:38,969 --> 03:21:43,889 that clear. But what I'm saying is, it's very beneficial. Now, 3089 03:21:43,889 --> 03:21:46,619 it's like you hear him say, we're the most educated 3090 03:21:46,649 --> 03:21:49,709 demographic there is. Notice they separate themselves out. 3091 03:21:50,519 --> 03:21:53,549 Oh, it's the black men killing black men and black men or white 3092 03:21:53,549 --> 03:21:57,029 men, white black men are the white people, or black people, 3093 03:21:57,179 --> 03:21:58,679 you hear these terms thrown out, 3094 03:21:58,770 --> 03:22:01,950 all we need. And that's all we need is to hear? Well, you never 3095 03:22:01,950 --> 03:22:03,990 seen black women kill Black women do you? 3096 03:22:07,530 --> 03:22:14,340 That is coming is coming. So I have Reverend and white Mar. And 3097 03:22:14,340 --> 03:22:18,240 he speaks on the ritual sacrifice Black Heritage Trail 3098 03:22:18,240 --> 03:22:18,870 of image. 3099 03:22:19,530 --> 03:22:24,060 So this lecture focuses on the ritual sacrifice of black men in 3100 03:22:24,060 --> 03:22:29,400 particular, as an instrument for creating a cohesive and unified 3101 03:22:29,520 --> 03:22:33,960 body of people called white. So in this development of the 3102 03:22:33,960 --> 03:22:38,430 screen of racial contempt, that I'm calling the first stage of 3103 03:22:38,430 --> 03:22:42,360 sacrifice. While it certainly includes the murder of African 3104 03:22:42,360 --> 03:22:47,280 Americans, it was, it was the murder of their humanity. In the 3105 03:22:47,280 --> 03:22:50,550 eyes of European Americans, that was sacrificed in the 3106 03:22:50,550 --> 03:22:54,990 development of white identity, more than just the basement, it 3107 03:22:54,990 --> 03:22:59,160 was the symbolic murder of their identities offered up in order 3108 03:22:59,160 --> 03:23:05,580 to engender another identity. So Rene Girard writes, the purpose 3109 03:23:05,580 --> 03:23:10,530 of sacrifice is to restore the harmony to community to 3110 03:23:10,530 --> 03:23:15,120 reinforce the social fabric, and that the common denominator that 3111 03:23:15,120 --> 03:23:20,160 exists between behind all sacrifice is internal violence. 3112 03:23:20,850 --> 03:23:23,550 And the dissensions, the rivalries, the jealousies, and 3113 03:23:23,550 --> 03:23:27,180 the quarrels of the community, by design, are suppressed by 3114 03:23:27,180 --> 03:23:28,080 sacrifice, 3115 03:23:28,169 --> 03:23:32,459 and slow. 3116 03:23:33,119 --> 03:23:36,239 So what they're saying is, if no black men are put on the altar 3117 03:23:36,239 --> 03:23:39,359 to sacrifice, I'm not just talking about physically murder, 3118 03:23:39,659 --> 03:23:44,909 but the image, you know, the stereotypes, all of that if a 3119 03:23:44,909 --> 03:23:48,539 novice put up there, it will bring harmony, because then they 3120 03:23:48,539 --> 03:23:53,189 can say, Oh, well, that's not us. We're not like them. Right? 3121 03:23:53,519 --> 03:23:56,399 You know, and as they progress into whiteness, what we've 3122 03:23:56,429 --> 03:24:00,419 described whiteness to be is nothing but what the Wasp set as 3123 03:24:00,419 --> 03:24:04,709 the model for how the world should operate, aka white 3124 03:24:04,709 --> 03:24:08,129 supremacy in a western Western society. 3125 03:24:09,270 --> 03:24:13,170 Girard isolates three distinct bodies within the community, the 3126 03:24:13,170 --> 03:24:18,630 model, the rival, and the ritual victim. And he sees within the 3127 03:24:18,630 --> 03:24:22,590 community a driving function of competition, and the potential 3128 03:24:22,590 --> 03:24:26,550 for violence. So the model in our case, the plantation elite, 3129 03:24:26,580 --> 03:24:29,700 or elite whites, are in possession of an object, they're 3130 03:24:29,700 --> 03:24:33,000 in possession of something. And then political realm, we might 3131 03:24:33,000 --> 03:24:37,410 think of the soleus capital. But if we think of it more broadly, 3132 03:24:37,560 --> 03:24:42,180 they're really in possession of something called YT which stands 3133 03:24:42,180 --> 03:24:45,540 for all sorts of things, concepts of election purity, 3134 03:24:45,570 --> 03:24:49,710 goodness, and Providence. And I was doing research and widen 3135 03:24:49,710 --> 03:24:54,330 your library and Harvard and they, they had this book and it 3136 03:24:54,330 --> 03:24:58,740 had something like the 23 races of English people, which which 3137 03:24:58,740 --> 03:25:04,320 sounds Surprising, right? But not really, right? But it all 3138 03:25:04,320 --> 03:25:08,970 feeds into that chain moving towards the Elite model, the 3139 03:25:08,970 --> 03:25:13,380 person who is holding the desirable quality at the top 3140 03:25:15,240 --> 03:25:20,610 now, elites are able to generate allegiance and they are able to 3141 03:25:20,610 --> 03:25:24,960 generate disciples by making whiteness a desirable quality. 3142 03:25:26,700 --> 03:25:30,720 Oh, hey. So 3143 03:25:32,130 --> 03:25:37,020 do you think that there must be black women who are thinking 3144 03:25:37,020 --> 03:25:40,170 Hold on a second? What's going on here? How can we leave in all 3145 03:25:40,170 --> 03:25:41,370 those men behind? 3146 03:25:42,450 --> 03:25:47,850 Yes it is but then you know they're told Shut up snow 3147 03:25:47,850 --> 03:25:51,540 sister. How dare kid you not support your other sisters 3148 03:25:51,570 --> 03:25:56,460 unless use Kamala Harris as a as a as a case study. How does how 3149 03:25:56,460 --> 03:25:57,780 does she make her bones? 3150 03:26:00,120 --> 03:26:02,160 Strong black, black men in jail. 3151 03:26:03,900 --> 03:26:07,020 We heard on the last show or a couple shows ago she locked up 3152 03:26:07,050 --> 03:26:11,910 innocent black man had no evidence against them. And it 3153 03:26:11,910 --> 03:26:17,580 goes to show you look, look at me pick me. I can I can I can do 3154 03:26:17,580 --> 03:26:22,260 it just as good as a white man can do. Or what's perceived 3155 03:26:22,320 --> 03:26:24,780 missing an axis of a white man? I mean, just saying by the 3156 03:26:24,780 --> 03:26:26,280 standard of society, right. 3157 03:26:26,280 --> 03:26:31,950 But but she Okay, first of all, karma is? Yeah, she identifies 3158 03:26:31,950 --> 03:26:36,120 as Black doesn't quite have the same history as a docile woman. 3159 03:26:37,050 --> 03:26:39,540 Hmm. So are they just are they just had they just been 3160 03:26:39,540 --> 03:26:40,410 hypnotized? 3161 03:26:41,940 --> 03:26:46,170 Mine. And I told you at the beginning, very first show is 3162 03:26:46,200 --> 03:26:47,280 ego. 3163 03:26:48,030 --> 03:26:51,870 It's just so hard to believe. It's horrible. Yeah. 3164 03:26:53,160 --> 03:26:56,490 It's not really if you we talked about how Black Lives Matter. 3165 03:26:56,520 --> 03:26:59,670 founders have daddy issues? Yeah, a lot of these women. 3166 03:26:59,670 --> 03:27:03,090 Kamala Harris has daddy issues as it's playing out in the 3167 03:27:03,090 --> 03:27:06,540 media. Yeah. So I'm not saying that. They're just, they're just 3168 03:27:07,320 --> 03:27:11,790 latching on to this. I mean, dryly they have been the man, 3169 03:27:11,790 --> 03:27:12,150 they have 3170 03:27:12,150 --> 03:27:16,260 the same issues because of the same problems, only their issues 3171 03:27:16,260 --> 03:27:17,460 manifest differently. 3172 03:27:19,020 --> 03:27:22,950 Exactly. Okay. And what a manifest is, you know what, I 3173 03:27:22,950 --> 03:27:30,000 can use black bodies to get ahead. To get ahead. They 3174 03:27:30,030 --> 03:27:32,760 they're doing the exact same thing the founding fathers did 3175 03:27:32,760 --> 03:27:37,830 when they created America, it wasn't that personal. Don't take 3176 03:27:37,830 --> 03:27:45,360 out natural resources on his land. And they're saying the 3177 03:27:45,360 --> 03:27:48,900 same thing. Well, we have all these black criminals, we might 3178 03:27:48,900 --> 03:27:52,020 as well put them to good use. Let's let's get with the media 3179 03:27:52,020 --> 03:27:55,470 running on them and run it on the media. Make black men 3180 03:27:55,470 --> 03:27:59,640 violent make black men, the source in the vein of all, all 3181 03:27:59,640 --> 03:28:03,240 the things that troubled us, put them on the sacrificial altar, 3182 03:28:04,230 --> 03:28:08,490 slay them, and then we can have harmony. Yeah. 3183 03:28:11,430 --> 03:28:13,530 I hear you, I hear you. Okay. 3184 03:28:15,450 --> 03:28:18,180 Sorry. Well, we would we stop, they don't, 3185 03:28:18,210 --> 03:28:23,370 it can only go downhill from here. We striving for whiteness, 3186 03:28:23,370 --> 03:28:23,850 okay. 3187 03:28:24,750 --> 03:28:27,720 For whiteness. Okay. Replacing the model 3188 03:28:28,020 --> 03:28:31,650 was created as a belief system on the desire of an object 3189 03:28:31,650 --> 03:28:34,560 embodied by the plantation elites, or by the elites in 3190 03:28:34,560 --> 03:28:41,370 general. And by model had meant being closer to God, the rival 3191 03:28:42,390 --> 03:28:45,690 the second group that you are speaks of are the European 3192 03:28:45,690 --> 03:28:51,030 American masses, who tried to possess this whiteness as an act 3193 03:28:51,030 --> 03:28:56,010 of mimicry. By desiring what the model desires, what the elites 3194 03:28:56,520 --> 03:29:04,980 have, because so much as I want it, they have power. To me 3195 03:29:04,980 --> 03:29:10,980 wanting it gives them stature. Us Magazine, People Magazine, 3196 03:29:11,310 --> 03:29:15,660 cultivate the culture of celebrity because it gives the 3197 03:29:15,660 --> 03:29:19,620 system more power. Same with the Oscars. Same with all that 3198 03:29:20,190 --> 03:29:25,710 Gerard warns us that the desires of the rival, the second group, 3199 03:29:26,310 --> 03:29:33,090 where the masses will grow, the desire will grow until there is 3200 03:29:33,090 --> 03:29:36,540 violence induced by that competition that's there. The 3201 03:29:36,540 --> 03:29:40,620 nature of the system is that it wants us to desire but it 3202 03:29:40,620 --> 03:29:43,860 doesn't want us to go too far. Because if we want to too much, 3203 03:29:43,890 --> 03:29:48,720 eventually we will try to knock over we will try to kill the 3204 03:29:48,720 --> 03:29:50,790 model so that we can replace the model. 3205 03:29:51,960 --> 03:29:54,360 Ooh, there's there's your riots. Yes, 3206 03:29:54,360 --> 03:29:57,810 there it is. There it is. We're that's the world we're past that 3207 03:29:57,810 --> 03:29:59,580 phase. Really. That's 3208 03:29:59,880 --> 03:30:02,520 it Same but that's where we're at. Yeah, that's that's where 3209 03:30:02,520 --> 03:30:05,550 we're at. And, you know, who do you have out in those groups? 3210 03:30:05,550 --> 03:30:08,460 You have the feminists you have the you know the Marxists you 3211 03:30:08,460 --> 03:30:12,000 have the every other ethnic group. And they're all 3212 03:30:12,000 --> 03:30:15,240 protesting on what the back of their sacrificial black men 3213 03:30:20,820 --> 03:30:25,740 Yeah. But they want to replace the model. It's not that we want 3214 03:30:25,740 --> 03:30:29,070 to create our own and no crater on black community or on 3215 03:30:29,070 --> 03:30:32,580 whatever fill in the blank community is that we want to be 3216 03:30:32,580 --> 03:30:38,130 accepted and raised to the level of the model, which is Anglo, 3217 03:30:38,160 --> 03:30:42,930 you're saying why Anglo Saxon Protestant? Elite? Right. And if 3218 03:30:42,930 --> 03:30:50,850 sick thing is whiteness? Is there a god? Yeah, well, that 3219 03:30:50,850 --> 03:30:51,270 Yeah. 3220 03:30:54,240 --> 03:30:57,210 I'm kind of speechless. That's what you're hearing is me. Just 3221 03:30:57,240 --> 03:30:59,370 I just don't know what to say. Yeah, 3222 03:30:59,430 --> 03:31:02,550 I wasn't saying way. I mean, I had to process Yes, like, 3223 03:31:03,780 --> 03:31:07,470 because at the end of the day, if you can identify as a woman 3224 03:31:07,470 --> 03:31:11,580 first, as a gay first, as it transfers 3225 03:31:11,610 --> 03:31:19,710 Oh, Schnapp that just hit hard. One of the most successful black 3226 03:31:19,710 --> 03:31:21,660 men in show business is RuPaul. 3227 03:31:24,540 --> 03:31:30,120 Right, but that's how you I'm a gay black man. What's that 3228 03:31:30,120 --> 03:31:32,940 Porter? Porter, he'll tell you that it'll be Porter. Billy 3229 03:31:32,940 --> 03:31:35,520 Porter, he'll tell you that I'm gonna get I'm a gay but I'll put 3230 03:31:35,520 --> 03:31:40,800 that first. Gay first black and the man. So we already know this 3231 03:31:40,830 --> 03:31:45,240 attack on man. But I'm just saying that the stain for the 3232 03:31:45,240 --> 03:31:49,620 model is that I want to emulate the model. Yes. And to emulate 3233 03:31:49,620 --> 03:31:52,620 it, I have to show you how well I can do what the model does. 3234 03:31:52,800 --> 03:31:56,010 How well I could play inside the system. That's why you see the 3235 03:31:56,010 --> 03:31:59,820 sorrel sisters. I've coined that term to you a long time ago. 3236 03:31:59,850 --> 03:32:03,390 Yeah, the reason why I say that is these women want to 3237 03:32:03,390 --> 03:32:08,070 illustrate to the powers that be I can do the job just as good or 3238 03:32:08,100 --> 03:32:10,620 even better than a white da. 3239 03:32:11,550 --> 03:32:14,430 I think I even heard Dvorak use the term source. He I think he 3240 03:32:14,430 --> 03:32:21,960 said Soro sister, but he, yes, er, I did hear I did hear good 3241 03:32:21,960 --> 03:32:22,410 work. 3242 03:32:23,760 --> 03:32:27,480 But that's what they're doing. And then whatever you have to do 3243 03:32:27,480 --> 03:32:29,400 from there, they have to pick a victim. 3244 03:32:31,110 --> 03:32:34,230 So the system doesn't want us to go too far. So it needs to find 3245 03:32:34,230 --> 03:32:40,020 a way to blow off steam through the process. They don't want to 3246 03:32:40,020 --> 03:32:44,370 get rid of that intra community violence, but they just want to 3247 03:32:44,370 --> 03:32:49,710 deflect it before it reaches the doors of the elites. So to 3248 03:32:49,710 --> 03:32:52,740 deflect the violence that ultimately arises out of the 3249 03:32:52,740 --> 03:32:57,210 competition, there needs to be a ritual victim, which is the 3250 03:32:57,210 --> 03:33:01,980 third group. Someone who is marginal within the community, 3251 03:33:02,070 --> 03:33:06,480 who does not represent a real threat of reprisal, who can't 3252 03:33:06,510 --> 03:33:11,640 attack the system back. The dangers in this society are 3253 03:33:11,640 --> 03:33:18,450 projected onto that victim. Yeah. Now who, 3254 03:33:18,510 --> 03:33:21,060 what was the guy's name again, Gerard was? 3255 03:33:22,140 --> 03:33:27,360 Gerard, let's say, historian that he's referring to. I can 3256 03:33:27,360 --> 03:33:30,450 get you his name after the show. But this the speaker is Reverend 3257 03:33:30,480 --> 03:33:37,650 I in May. And white Mar. Okay. You have it's amazing. The we 3258 03:33:37,650 --> 03:33:40,230 had her two men on the call white men in the cloth 3259 03:33:40,260 --> 03:33:46,800 illustrating the black problem, clearer than the people that are 3260 03:33:46,800 --> 03:33:49,710 supposed to be speaking for us. Yeah, that happened. Yeah. 3261 03:33:50,550 --> 03:33:54,360 Well, how does that happen? 3262 03:33:55,440 --> 03:33:58,410 It happens by design is how it happens. Yes. I mean, that's the 3263 03:33:58,410 --> 03:34:04,080 punch line. And I know people are saying, Wow, that sounds 3264 03:34:04,080 --> 03:34:09,090 crazy. What are you saying? So what I'm saying one of the 3265 03:34:09,090 --> 03:34:14,280 exoteric you know, politically they're sacrificing black men 3266 03:34:14,280 --> 03:34:18,900 the image of black men. They say trans men, trans women are the 3267 03:34:18,900 --> 03:34:22,650 victim or the victim of black men. Black women are the victim 3268 03:34:22,650 --> 03:34:26,160 of black men. Black children are the victim of black men. Black 3269 03:34:26,160 --> 03:34:29,430 men are the that victim of black men. And the only way you can 3270 03:34:29,430 --> 03:34:35,190 survive in this is if you two aren't six foot eight 260 pound 3271 03:34:35,190 --> 03:34:37,740 black man like LeBron James and you're running around the street 3272 03:34:37,740 --> 03:34:40,320 scared for your life. That's the only way you could function is 3273 03:34:40,320 --> 03:34:40,860 to study. 3274 03:34:41,610 --> 03:34:44,430 Well, I think you're doing pretty well as a podcaster 3275 03:34:51,420 --> 03:34:53,400 Yeah, it gets deeper than that. Because 3276 03:34:53,640 --> 03:34:56,340 you're gonna you're gonna hurt something now, aren't you? This 3277 03:34:56,340 --> 03:34:59,640 is always the end. Yeah. All right. tarp is ready. Oh, 3278 03:35:01,079 --> 03:35:09,239 I have a podcast that features Minister brat aka bad news. He 3279 03:35:09,239 --> 03:35:11,879 speaks about the witchcraft and gangbanging, 3280 03:35:12,120 --> 03:35:15,810 I was dating a young lady in my neighborhood and are coming to 3281 03:35:15,810 --> 03:35:19,530 find out this used to have a grandmother stayed with the 3282 03:35:19,530 --> 03:35:22,350 grandmother, people in caskets on the wall. And obviously it 3283 03:35:22,350 --> 03:35:25,350 was all these people in these caskets, they say they just 3284 03:35:25,350 --> 03:35:29,520 family members, one time a grandmother came home and they 3285 03:35:29,520 --> 03:35:33,390 started putting a black sheets on the wall over the glass and 3286 03:35:33,390 --> 03:35:35,880 over the window. I say what they do and they say we're gonna have 3287 03:35:35,880 --> 03:35:41,610 a seance that I want to say, I say, No, I don't do seances. But 3288 03:35:41,610 --> 03:35:46,890 I come to understand why my neighborhood was so cold. As I 3289 03:35:46,890 --> 03:35:50,010 look back, and I'm physically cold, you feel physically cold. 3290 03:35:50,760 --> 03:35:54,180 Maybe I use maybe you say I use I feel death. Yes was right. It 3291 03:35:54,180 --> 03:35:57,270 was a sphere of death in this neighborhood. And now I know why 3292 03:35:57,270 --> 03:36:01,110 the grandmothers was witches. The Grandmothers was doing 3293 03:36:01,110 --> 03:36:05,790 seances as I look back into the image, right? Well, I understand 3294 03:36:05,790 --> 03:36:08,730 now why the grandmothers say You better go kill the boys. You 3295 03:36:08,730 --> 03:36:13,770 better go get the grandma Ranbir because grandmother guys, you 3296 03:36:13,830 --> 03:36:16,920 somebody could kill y'all better go kill y'all better go get 3297 03:36:16,920 --> 03:36:18,840 them. And what type of witchcraft were they involved 3298 03:36:18,840 --> 03:36:25,320 in? Well, I say I say I say Jesus grandmother that we wait 3299 03:36:25,320 --> 03:36:30,120 to walk across three goats run to the store for doing say, go 3300 03:36:30,120 --> 03:36:32,880 to church went to church. 3301 03:36:34,440 --> 03:36:36,930 This is this is very disturbing. 3302 03:36:39,450 --> 03:36:42,990 And they you wonder why you hear cases of a woman lose three four 3303 03:36:42,990 --> 03:36:46,230 sons that gun violence, we really had to investigate those 3304 03:36:46,230 --> 03:36:51,150 cases. There's a there's a spiritual thing going on a 3305 03:36:51,240 --> 03:36:55,350 spiritual component of this. And I illustrated it way back in 3306 03:36:55,350 --> 03:36:59,550 show 26 With a growing number of black women leaving the church 3307 03:36:59,550 --> 03:37:00,630 for witchcraft, witchcraft. 3308 03:37:00,929 --> 03:37:03,839 Growing numbers of African American women in Maryland and 3309 03:37:03,839 --> 03:37:07,349 across the nation are leaving traditional church worship. All 3310 03:37:07,349 --> 03:37:10,289 of them are in search of something else, a spiritual 3311 03:37:10,289 --> 03:37:13,559 belief that connects them to their ancestors, and where they 3312 03:37:13,559 --> 03:37:16,259 can feel more empowered to control their own well being. 3313 03:37:16,589 --> 03:37:20,189 They have found it in ancient forms of spiritual contact. Some 3314 03:37:20,219 --> 03:37:27,359 call it witchcraft, a term they accept and embrace. For most of 3315 03:37:27,359 --> 03:37:31,229 us, this is how we worship a tradition that predates us all. 3316 03:37:35,369 --> 03:37:38,459 This to is an ancient art of worshipping not to God the 3317 03:37:38,459 --> 03:37:42,239 Father, Son and Holy Ghost, but to spirits and deities that span 3318 03:37:42,239 --> 03:37:45,749 the oceans and deep back to pre slavery days in Africa. Are you 3319 03:37:45,749 --> 03:37:46,979 in fact witches? 3320 03:37:47,040 --> 03:37:52,770 Um, whatever the situation calls for. So if you come to me with 3321 03:37:53,160 --> 03:37:56,880 pleasantries, you being respectful, you'll get Glinda 3322 03:37:56,940 --> 03:38:01,200 the Good Witch of the suburbs, but if you come at me with 3323 03:38:01,230 --> 03:38:06,210 negativity, and meanness and disrespect thing, you will get 3324 03:38:06,240 --> 03:38:09,690 Evaline your worst nightmare? 3325 03:38:09,840 --> 03:38:16,140 Oh, yeah, this was episode 26 For anybody who wants to get 3326 03:38:16,140 --> 03:38:17,550 freaked out all over again. 3327 03:38:19,230 --> 03:38:21,660 And how and I had an epiphany. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. 3328 03:38:21,990 --> 03:38:24,270 Give me my epiphany afterwards. So do you remember how old she 3329 03:38:24,270 --> 03:38:27,000 was the woman speaking at the end? She sounds Oh, these women 3330 03:38:27,000 --> 03:38:29,640 these women are in their late 20s early? The millennials 3331 03:38:29,640 --> 03:38:33,540 right? Yeah. And they picked it up when they left the church 3332 03:38:33,540 --> 03:38:35,760 went off to college and learning these universities 3333 03:38:38,070 --> 03:38:38,550 yeah 3334 03:38:40,620 --> 03:38:44,460 Evany was this Yes. And people that know anything about hip hop 3335 03:38:44,460 --> 03:38:48,660 will know this. Though same cloth is in basements that these 3336 03:38:48,690 --> 03:38:54,690 women were doing seances in that Minister Brett refer to are the 3337 03:38:54,690 --> 03:38:58,860 same causes in basements that their grandchildren record hip 3338 03:38:58,860 --> 03:39:08,220 hop music you know, it's it's spells spell spell smell Sam, 3339 03:39:08,220 --> 03:39:11,670 but those same spirits might be dwelling? Yeah, those same 3340 03:39:11,670 --> 03:39:15,600 spaces because I know when we used to record you had to had to 3341 03:39:15,600 --> 03:39:20,010 do the basement or you had to do like, no like a closet or 3342 03:39:20,010 --> 03:39:20,520 something. 3343 03:39:22,290 --> 03:39:24,420 Ah, 3344 03:39:24,840 --> 03:39:27,930 do we do Theramin? Not really. 3345 03:39:28,500 --> 03:39:31,440 Go ahead. Oh, man needed theremin. What is next? 3346 03:39:32,580 --> 03:39:36,840 Okay, well, we're winding it up here and people. I like that 3347 03:39:36,840 --> 03:39:40,380 theory. I like that theory. That's a good one. Okay, what 3348 03:39:40,380 --> 03:39:41,670 are we? What do we got now? 3349 03:39:42,480 --> 03:39:45,030 There's only one way to introduce this next guest and 3350 03:39:45,030 --> 03:39:47,520 people have been asking about him. And it's his first 3351 03:39:47,520 --> 03:39:51,390 introduction to the MO FX podcast with Adam curry. Bishop 3352 03:39:51,390 --> 03:39:52,260 Larry gators. 3353 03:39:52,410 --> 03:39:57,900 I am a type of a man that's been called by God to fully 3354 03:39:57,900 --> 03:40:03,090 decapitate the system. of the left. And what I want to talk to 3355 03:40:03,090 --> 03:40:07,290 you about today, brother Alex and to your listeners all over 3356 03:40:07,290 --> 03:40:13,110 the world is this topic entitled the coming destruction of Black 3357 03:40:13,110 --> 03:40:17,520 Lives Matter. Now, the three founders on brother Alex of 3358 03:40:17,670 --> 03:40:22,320 Black Lives Matter they are witches. Listen, I have no 3359 03:40:22,320 --> 03:40:26,700 sympathy for the lead. I am a contract killer. For the Lord 3360 03:40:26,700 --> 03:40:32,460 Jesus Christ. My responsibility is to cut the hair off of not 3361 03:40:32,460 --> 03:40:36,510 just antiguo that is the military arm of Black Lives 3362 03:40:36,510 --> 03:40:41,700 Matter. But Black Lives Matter is the propaganda arm of Antifa. 3363 03:40:41,850 --> 03:40:47,130 So you have three witches who created this terrorist 3364 03:40:47,130 --> 03:40:54,360 organization in 2013. Following the death of Trayvon Martin, 3365 03:40:54,540 --> 03:41:01,350 Alicia Garza, she is a member of Omega Phi Beta Patrisse Cullors. 3366 03:41:01,380 --> 03:41:06,540 She is a member also of omega fight betta and open to many 3367 03:41:06,540 --> 03:41:10,980 she's of Nigerian descent. She is a member of Alpha Kappa 3368 03:41:11,040 --> 03:41:16,350 Alpha, which means they're all apart by the Alex of the black 3369 03:41:16,350 --> 03:41:17,850 skulls and bones 3370 03:41:19,560 --> 03:41:30,510 Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa, get the tar. Oh my goodness. So 3371 03:41:30,510 --> 03:41:34,620 that they're putting spells on everybody. You got to explain a 3372 03:41:34,620 --> 03:41:36,690 work of the biggest whether working through the biggest 3373 03:41:36,690 --> 03:41:41,280 spell caster is the media or the medium which what do you call 3374 03:41:41,280 --> 03:41:45,030 witches? And now if it's the witches, witches called mediums, 3375 03:41:45,030 --> 03:41:45,150 it's 3376 03:41:45,150 --> 03:41:47,520 important people understand this. Because when we and we 3377 03:41:47,520 --> 03:41:51,180 haven't gone off the rails all of a sudden like, oh, well, this 3378 03:41:51,180 --> 03:41:54,870 is it. It's witchcraft. That's the problem. No, no, it it is 3379 03:41:54,870 --> 03:41:57,090 truly a form of modern witchcraft. 3380 03:41:58,020 --> 03:42:00,990 It truly is. Yeah, especially when you fat in no SIBO effect. 3381 03:42:00,990 --> 03:42:03,900 And you keep saying no, this negative stuff and then it 3382 03:42:03,900 --> 03:42:06,660 presents itself now as soon as they start talking about black 3383 03:42:06,750 --> 03:42:09,510 cops shooting black cops shooting black people, more cops 3384 03:42:09,510 --> 03:42:15,570 shoot black people. How does that work? Well, Flacco demand 3385 03:42:15,630 --> 03:42:16,950 is like like on demand 3386 03:42:17,040 --> 03:42:21,360 coming, coming. from an advertising perspective. That's 3387 03:42:21,360 --> 03:42:24,720 actually how it works. If you show something over and over 3388 03:42:24,720 --> 03:42:27,450 again, is going to have an influence depending on how you 3389 03:42:27,450 --> 03:42:30,930 show it, what music you show it with how your cuts are made, how 3390 03:42:30,930 --> 03:42:37,770 your shots are positioned. It's i i have manipulated people's 3391 03:42:37,770 --> 03:42:42,420 thinking in in not necessarily derogatory way, but have created 3392 03:42:42,450 --> 03:42:48,090 illusions, illusions, magic, illusions, witchcraft, spells on 3393 03:42:48,090 --> 03:42:53,310 television, that there's okay, if anyone wants this is a very 3394 03:42:53,310 --> 03:42:57,030 odd been doing this for maybe 15 years. There's, you can find it 3395 03:42:57,030 --> 03:42:59,190 on I'm going to put it in the show notes. It's called the Zen 3396 03:42:59,190 --> 03:43:01,590 TV experiment. Have you ever heard of this? Mo? 3397 03:43:02,130 --> 03:43:05,730 No, I haven't. But I'm going to look it up soon as we descend 3398 03:43:05,730 --> 03:43:10,680 TV experiment, it goes back to I think this one December was 3399 03:43:10,680 --> 03:43:15,060 2009. And I don't know if this is even the first time it was it 3400 03:43:15,060 --> 03:43:18,570 just you should just do some you couldn't do with the television 3401 03:43:18,570 --> 03:43:22,770 or, or the laptop. But it just gives you a couple of simple 3402 03:43:22,770 --> 03:43:26,520 things to do. I'll show you. For instance, watch TV for 10 3403 03:43:26,520 --> 03:43:30,900 minutes and count the technical events. Technical events are 3404 03:43:33,210 --> 03:43:35,700 we've all seen TV cameras and banks and jewelry stores a 3405 03:43:35,700 --> 03:43:38,520 stationary video cameras simply recording what's in front of it 3406 03:43:38,520 --> 03:43:40,950 we'll call pure TV. Anything other than that is a technical 3407 03:43:40,950 --> 03:43:45,060 event, a camera zoom technical event, someone's profile talking 3408 03:43:45,060 --> 03:43:47,640 suddenly you switch to another person responding technical 3409 03:43:47,640 --> 03:43:50,610 event A cars driving down the road, you hear music playing 3410 03:43:50,760 --> 03:43:54,660 technical event, count the number of times as a cut, Zoom 3411 03:43:54,660 --> 03:43:58,020 superposition voice over parents of words on the screen Fade In 3412 03:43:58,020 --> 03:44:01,110 and Fade Out. All of those are technical events. They're 3413 03:44:01,110 --> 03:44:07,530 magical. They are illusions, call it that call it sorcery. So 3414 03:44:07,530 --> 03:44:12,780 much of what we're seeing, particularly now with handheld 3415 03:44:12,780 --> 03:44:19,650 cameras, directs the way the media uses the ad that type of 3416 03:44:19,650 --> 03:44:25,320 video sources. Narratives are set on eight seconds of video 3417 03:44:25,320 --> 03:44:31,380 shot from a window. This is all technical and broadcasts 3418 03:44:31,380 --> 03:44:32,310 sorcery. 3419 03:44:33,450 --> 03:44:37,560 And one final point I'd like to make is even the release of 3420 03:44:37,560 --> 03:44:40,470 information. Like you say it starts with the eight second 3421 03:44:40,830 --> 03:44:44,040 Yeah, and then it bleeds out that you know the full video and 3422 03:44:44,040 --> 03:44:46,710 then another angle of the video and then another angle and then 3423 03:44:46,710 --> 03:44:50,340 the context of the video those kinds of things. So yeah, it's 3424 03:44:50,340 --> 03:44:54,420 definitely and these women were arm in arm with their sisters in 3425 03:44:54,420 --> 03:45:00,630 the media. Yes, Oprah Gail, etc. Fill in the blanks. and they 3426 03:45:00,630 --> 03:45:04,380 create a narrative when you saw in full play with Kobe Bryant, 3427 03:45:04,800 --> 03:45:07,860 you saw what they did to him and his death. Kobe didn't do that. 3428 03:45:07,860 --> 03:45:15,030 Nobody. I mean, when he died, I mean look what I did, and we got 3429 03:45:15,030 --> 03:45:16,380 to take this we I take them down, 3430 03:45:16,740 --> 03:45:19,440 and they take them down. It took Snoop Dogg down a notch too, 3431 03:45:19,440 --> 03:45:19,920 didn't they? 3432 03:45:20,730 --> 03:45:21,480 Exactly. 3433 03:45:23,580 --> 03:45:27,840 Okay. Oh, and by the way, some sorcery and witchcraft I also 3434 03:45:27,840 --> 03:45:31,440 believe is real. So not just technical events on television. 3435 03:45:31,470 --> 03:45:35,850 I think you can probably conjure a bad energy wherever it's 3436 03:45:35,850 --> 03:45:37,650 coming from. And 3437 03:45:38,010 --> 03:45:40,560 I mean, I don't dispute that as well. I mean, I'm just saying 3438 03:45:40,560 --> 03:45:44,670 that it for the people that that's the reach for them. Just 3439 03:45:44,670 --> 03:45:48,750 the control your mind control brainwashing. Don't take my word 3440 03:45:48,750 --> 03:45:52,950 for it. Take brailles word for it. Right. Tom Burrell? Yep, 3441 03:45:53,130 --> 03:45:54,990 he's a he's a master wizard. 3442 03:45:55,710 --> 03:45:59,880 He is he's a Grand Wizard to coin a phrase Grand Wizard at 3443 03:45:59,880 --> 03:46:04,710 what he does. Moe thank you so much. This is so enjoyable to do 3444 03:46:04,710 --> 03:46:08,520 the shows and because it's written enriches me as a human 3445 03:46:10,050 --> 03:46:13,110 every show to me is like I get to catch up with my with my 3446 03:46:13,110 --> 03:46:17,640 buddy. I like that so much and I know it comes across on the show 3447 03:46:17,640 --> 03:46:21,450 and I know so many people get so much value and of course you 3448 03:46:21,450 --> 03:46:24,270 know our pitch. If you got any value from it, just translate 3449 03:46:24,270 --> 03:46:27,030 that into numbers add a note let us know how you feel how it 3450 03:46:27,030 --> 03:46:30,060 affected you try and keep it within the realm of broadcast 3451 03:46:30,060 --> 03:46:33,690 length because after all, we are creating technical sorcery here 3452 03:46:33,690 --> 03:46:38,010 for you. And and counter sorcery counter 3453 03:46:38,010 --> 03:46:38,850 sources, right. 3454 03:46:40,200 --> 03:46:44,580 It's white magic. Oh, what did I say? Oh my god, see how you get 3455 03:46:44,580 --> 03:46:48,510 trapped in that kind of stuff. Mo facts.com Support us directly 3456 03:46:48,510 --> 03:46:53,220 at MoeFundMe.com our donation page Moe Fu N D me.com. And N mo 3457 03:46:53,220 --> 03:46:56,220 thank you again I can't wait for the next episode. 3458 03:46:57,570 --> 03:47:01,410 And as I always say pay attention to everything in the 3459 03:47:01,410 --> 03:47:02,640 truth reveal itself 3460 03:47:07,680 --> 03:47:39,480 to bang bang now we went straight to banana clip of the 3461 03:47:39,480 --> 03:47:43,980 day spoke to me and told me how was the only thing that we lose 3462 03:47:44,100 --> 03:47:48,870 so don't be afraid to shower on them. If you ever run a bet my 3463 03:47:48,870 --> 03:47:54,030 dog became with red dot for sure shots and salsa all the low head 3464 03:47:54,030 --> 03:47:56,280 stop pause and think about it while it gave me threats and 3465 03:47:56,280 --> 03:47:59,670 made me no better way to protect myself. In this world we live in 3466 03:48:00,060 --> 03:48:02,640 the killer note women and children in the only way you 3467 03:48:02,640 --> 03:48:06,630 survive your mind and stay stressed they see you act out to 3468 03:48:06,630 --> 03:48:10,320 consult if you back out back out. So you work the window down 3469 03:48:10,320 --> 03:48:47,160 and you black out the next day. banana clip theory the banana 3470 03:48:47,160 --> 03:48:47,400 clip