1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,300 Hey mo facts with Adam curry for July 25 2020. This is episode 2 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:19,290 number 44. And we did it. It's Saturday and we're dropping. 3 00:00:20,100 --> 00:00:22,830 Can't believe it. Am I doing 4 00:00:23,970 --> 00:00:29,190 dropping on a snare? I'm doing fine. Yeah. Dropping out. Oh, 5 00:00:29,190 --> 00:00:30,000 how about yourself? 6 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:33,720 Yeah, I'm doing real good. It's, it's been. I guess it's been a 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:39,270 pretty good week. And yeah, I've done my homework been I've been 8 00:00:39,270 --> 00:00:45,090 doing the work, which means I watched all all the episodes of 9 00:00:45,210 --> 00:00:49,140 The Last Dance about the Chicago Bulls, Michael Jordan and I feel 10 00:00:49,140 --> 00:00:52,560 I've I've been schooled. Now I know what's going on. I also 11 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,940 realized that when it comes to podcasting, I'm really you know, 12 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,280 the Michael Jordan of podcasting, which makes you the 13 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:00,120 Scottie Pippen. 14 00:01:00,810 --> 00:01:06,540 I'll be that no, you're not you're not the Michael Jordan of 15 00:01:06,540 --> 00:01:08,880 podcasting you the Naismith? Oh, 16 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,200 I mean, you know if I can take all that. 17 00:01:16,350 --> 00:01:19,980 Majority, and he only played well, what a fantastic 18 00:01:20,009 --> 00:01:23,669 what a fantastic documentary and the whole time. It's in your 19 00:01:23,669 --> 00:01:28,079 face right there. Why is this man successful? Because he had a 20 00:01:28,079 --> 00:01:31,859 supportive dad. I think that's a huge part of it. And you can see 21 00:01:31,859 --> 00:01:34,889 all these guys, all these abnormal Pippin had, you know, a 22 00:01:35,069 --> 00:01:39,209 little different situation, but holy crap, man, dads, that's the 23 00:01:39,209 --> 00:01:40,379 common denominator. That 24 00:01:40,380 --> 00:01:46,170 contrast we had to do that contrast between LeBron James 25 00:01:46,170 --> 00:01:50,850 who didn't have that right, strong, Father structure. And 26 00:01:51,210 --> 00:01:54,960 presidents compare it to Michael Jordan, who did that that has to 27 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,060 be discussed down the line somewhere, because there's a 28 00:01:57,060 --> 00:02:00,360 huge contrast there. And I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah, 29 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:00,420 it 30 00:02:00,420 --> 00:02:03,420 was it was fascinating to see I really enjoyed it. 31 00:02:04,350 --> 00:02:10,260 Speaking of father figures, this next topic we cover today is 32 00:02:10,260 --> 00:02:13,080 going to be an influential part of the story as well. 33 00:02:13,740 --> 00:02:16,500 Okay, let me roll out the wheel. Hold on, everybody has time to 34 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:19,020 spin The Wheel of topics where it stops. Nobody knows. Well, 35 00:02:19,020 --> 00:02:21,840 obviously Moe kind of knows. But let's see what we're going to be 36 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,410 discussing on today's episode of moe facts with Adam curry. This 37 00:02:25,410 --> 00:02:34,740 is episode number 44. The topic is Barack Hussein Obama. Okay, 38 00:02:34,770 --> 00:02:38,610 we haven't done a full episode on Barack Obama, have we? 39 00:02:39,570 --> 00:02:44,340 No, we haven't. And it's this do Thomas show. 44? Yeah, he's the 40 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:50,850 44th president. So coming off the last episode. And coming out 41 00:02:50,850 --> 00:02:55,380 the last episode of The Marxism in community organizing I 42 00:02:55,380 --> 00:02:59,280 thought it was only appropriate that we take a official deep 43 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,670 dive into into the topic which you can't cover him in one 44 00:03:02,670 --> 00:03:03,480 episode alone. 45 00:03:03,750 --> 00:03:08,640 No, no, it's his his rise was so incredible how it worked in 46 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:12,780 Chicago and everything and forget Hawaii and before that, 47 00:03:12,780 --> 00:03:16,320 but it's really quite a tale that it down as it's been 48 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,420 written about by many people. I don't know how many people 49 00:03:18,420 --> 00:03:21,420 actually know the true story or the outside of the narrative 50 00:03:21,420 --> 00:03:22,350 that we've all heard. 51 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:27,060 If you just take it on his face day, you got a man here named 52 00:03:27,060 --> 00:03:32,610 Barack Hussein Obama elected in a time where America was 53 00:03:32,610 --> 00:03:38,280 fighting a war in the Middle East. And he's so called Black 54 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,970 by, you know, the how loosely they use the definition but has 55 00:03:41,970 --> 00:03:45,870 no lineage to slavery, apparently, or how it's 56 00:03:45,870 --> 00:03:51,270 reported. And he has a mom named Stanley. So I mean, like, if you 57 00:03:51,270 --> 00:03:56,010 tell me if you tell me that's going to be your 44th President. 58 00:03:56,730 --> 00:04:01,560 I'm taking the money against that happening. So right Right, 59 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:07,020 right here. Yeah, on that. So get into I guess we need to just 60 00:04:07,020 --> 00:04:12,270 drive on dive right into da da das city of Brock Obama one. 61 00:04:13,530 --> 00:04:15,930 On tonight on hardball, we bring you a special report on the 62 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,350 audacity of Barack Obama, covering the remarkable journey 63 00:04:19,350 --> 00:04:22,530 we've witnessed of him through the Obama erg. It's looked back 64 00:04:22,530 --> 00:04:24,840 at how the President has conducted himself in the public 65 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:27,960 eye, how he evolved in office and how he overcame the many 66 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,960 challenges that stood in his way. We were there from the very 67 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,750 beginning, of course, when as a relatively unknown State Senator 68 00:04:33,750 --> 00:04:37,140 Barack Obama delivered that rousing keynote address at the 69 00:04:37,140 --> 00:04:40,140 Democratic Convention up in Boston back in 2004. 70 00:04:41,850 --> 00:04:45,300 There is not a liberal America and a conservative America, 71 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,880 there is the United States of America. There is not a black 72 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,560 America and a white America and Latino America and Asian 73 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,530 America. There's the United States of America. 74 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,880 first glimpse we all knew I did. I thought we're witnessing 75 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,000 something special here. Here was my immediate reaction after he 76 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,590 was finished with that amazing speech. 77 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:09,120 Oh, his leg was tingling. 78 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,870 I have seen the first black president there. No reason I say 79 00:05:12,870 --> 00:05:15,780 that is because because I think the immigrant experience 80 00:05:15,780 --> 00:05:18,090 combined with the with the African background, combined 81 00:05:18,090 --> 00:05:21,660 with the incredible education, combined with his beautiful 82 00:05:21,660 --> 00:05:24,120 speech that every politician gets helpful in his speech. 83 00:05:24,660 --> 00:05:25,890 Speech was a piece of work. 84 00:05:26,460 --> 00:05:31,110 Hey, yeah. Yeah, you know, it was really interesting about 85 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:35,310 that particular convention. That was the first convention that 86 00:05:35,310 --> 00:05:39,930 they gave press credentials to bloggers. And Obama was just 87 00:05:39,930 --> 00:05:44,490 swamped swamped. He did a lot of work with the bloggers in the in 88 00:05:44,490 --> 00:05:48,900 the press room, it was, that was definitely a part that has not 89 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:50,100 been discussed very often. 90 00:05:51,780 --> 00:05:55,050 And two things he said in that clip, I rang the bell for 91 00:05:55,050 --> 00:05:59,490 Warren, he talked about the roadblocks that Obama faced. I'm 92 00:05:59,490 --> 00:06:04,410 not sure like, election was not talking about once he got in 93 00:06:04,410 --> 00:06:08,370 office and the pushback that he received there. But during the 94 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:13,500 election, I don't remember remember any roadblocks. I mean, 95 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:17,460 everything was like laid out for him perfectly by the press by 96 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:22,800 everything else. To step right into the position. And two, he 97 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:28,140 said about the background, and he even had the cash to sell 98 00:06:28,140 --> 00:06:31,380 because he said the immigrant rat ground Yeah, African, 99 00:06:32,070 --> 00:06:36,420 African American. Couldn't say African American spirits. Just 100 00:06:36,420 --> 00:06:40,470 that's not technically true. Right now about the speech, he 101 00:06:40,470 --> 00:06:45,930 gave it the Nanyuan just give me the 2004 convention. My man, 102 00:06:46,050 --> 00:06:50,580 Nene fast. My one of my best friends, if not my best friend. 103 00:06:51,210 --> 00:06:56,460 We were rapping at the time. And he wrote a ROM it was like, 104 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,370 Brock Obama's gonna be the next president or something like 105 00:06:59,370 --> 00:07:02,220 that. And we looked at each other. And I'm like, I mean, 106 00:07:02,220 --> 00:07:06,000 this is like in Oh, four when he wrote this and why. And that 107 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,230 might. So 108 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:08,370 and here's a clip. 109 00:07:11,130 --> 00:07:15,480 No, but we just lit when he said that. And it was like, Yeah, I 110 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,380 was like, you might be right. After that. It was just like, he 111 00:07:19,380 --> 00:07:23,040 came up on the radar. And boom, it was off to the running. Yeah, 112 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,700 it was once he came out and Oh, four. But I say I said this 113 00:07:26,700 --> 00:07:30,030 before, and I'll say it again for this show. But for all four 114 00:07:30,030 --> 00:07:31,680 I'd never heard Obama. No, 115 00:07:31,860 --> 00:07:35,520 never, ever unless you knew about Illinois state politics, 116 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,140 or really Chicago politics. 117 00:07:37,170 --> 00:07:40,260 But that's not the that's not the point I'm making. I got you. 118 00:07:41,820 --> 00:07:44,130 I had every copy of ebony, 119 00:07:44,550 --> 00:07:47,430 I see what you're saying. Right? Yes, 120 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:52,650 we watch BT faithfully, teamsnap that used to come on Saturday 121 00:07:52,650 --> 00:07:57,270 mornings, all these shows and never in my life heard of Barack 122 00:07:57,270 --> 00:08:00,090 Obama. And then he drops out of the sky. He 123 00:08:00,090 --> 00:08:01,380 just popped out of the womb. 124 00:08:02,820 --> 00:08:06,750 In 2004, like who is this guy, but nobody questioned his 125 00:08:06,750 --> 00:08:09,330 credentials. It's just like, who is in his like, Oh, he's our 126 00:08:09,330 --> 00:08:11,910 best shot to get a black president. So everybody just 127 00:08:11,910 --> 00:08:12,810 kind of got behind him. 128 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,520 Yes. And that is that's kind of cutting it short. Everybody. 129 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,600 Just everyone just Oh, all right. Is that what happened? 130 00:08:21,630 --> 00:08:23,820 Everyone went? Oh, yeah. All right, cool. 131 00:08:24,690 --> 00:08:27,360 Well, they gave him the swag test. I mean, that was the term 132 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,990 at the time used. I mean, I'm sure it's drip, or salsa or 133 00:08:30,990 --> 00:08:36,270 whatever. You want to use now. More, more recent slang, but he 134 00:08:36,270 --> 00:08:39,120 had the swag test. He had the Bob, he gave the proper depth, 135 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:44,190 you know, black wife, black kids, right? Like, he goes down 136 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:48,030 to checks. And then he didn't have the white diction that you 137 00:08:48,030 --> 00:08:51,660 normally have with somebody of his credentials. So it was it 138 00:08:51,660 --> 00:08:56,070 was it was perfect. I mean, we'd hear so my Harvard Law Review 139 00:08:56,070 --> 00:09:03,630 and Yale and no skull and bones. You don't talk in that way. 140 00:09:03,689 --> 00:09:08,669 It's the right, right. Okay, so he checks a lot of boxes right 141 00:09:08,669 --> 00:09:11,969 off the top. He checks every box. How about how about your 142 00:09:11,969 --> 00:09:14,459 mom? What did your mom say when she first saw Obama? 143 00:09:14,910 --> 00:09:18,330 Everybody loved him. Yeah. I mean, it was like Brock Obama. I 144 00:09:18,330 --> 00:09:27,300 mean, I can't I can't explain it. It was just he was a foot. I 145 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:29,760 don't think people can really wrap their head around. I mean, 146 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,100 he we talked him bigger than Martin Luther King. We're 147 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:36,000 talking bigger than Michael Jordan. I mean, on that level of 148 00:09:36,180 --> 00:09:40,710 fame, but overnight, it just came out of nowhere. So and was 149 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:42,720 there really want people to understand that? Was there a 150 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,040 discussion about his so called blackness, in your family or 151 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,240 with your friends? Oh, no, you can't question him. Once he hit 152 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,470 the scene. It was like he was above questioning because he was 153 00:09:55,470 --> 00:10:01,590 like, this is our best shot and when I say us Not me, per se, my 154 00:10:01,590 --> 00:10:05,220 generation. I think it was the odor. I hate to use this term, 155 00:10:05,220 --> 00:10:08,430 but boomers. Yeah, they were like, This is what we fought 156 00:10:08,430 --> 00:10:11,700 for. This is what we, even though a lot of them didn't 157 00:10:11,700 --> 00:10:14,970 participate in the civil rights movement, it was like, This is 158 00:10:14,970 --> 00:10:16,740 what the whole movement was about. Yeah. 159 00:10:17,340 --> 00:10:19,830 That makes total sense. This was the Yeah, this was the 160 00:10:19,860 --> 00:10:22,710 culmination the crescendo of it all. This is where this is where 161 00:10:22,710 --> 00:10:23,910 we want to have, right? 162 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,570 Correct. So let's get into Audacity to 163 00:10:28,830 --> 00:10:31,470 three short years later, we got it at the place for Abraham 164 00:10:31,470 --> 00:10:35,040 Lincoln once stood in Springfield, Illinois, to hear 165 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,890 the future president kick off his campaign, coldest day of the 166 00:10:37,890 --> 00:10:38,280 year 167 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,520 in the shadow of the Old State Capitol, where Lincoln once 168 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,410 called on a house, divided to stand together, where common 169 00:10:49,410 --> 00:10:54,030 hopes and Common Dreams still live. I stand before you today 170 00:10:54,030 --> 00:11:00,030 to announce my candidacy for President of the United States 171 00:11:00,030 --> 00:11:00,840 of America. 172 00:11:03,210 --> 00:11:06,630 I think it's so important we look back and catch the dynamic 173 00:11:06,630 --> 00:11:09,180 of this the wonderful trend of a guy who comes from really 174 00:11:09,180 --> 00:11:13,770 nowhere state senator, basically is on the roadmap, states and 175 00:11:13,770 --> 00:11:16,980 before he was even elected as a senator from Illinois, out of 176 00:11:16,980 --> 00:11:19,350 nowhere, magic, how did it happen? 177 00:11:19,380 --> 00:11:22,230 How is it possible he's an American Great, rare, Merc? 178 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:28,860 That's not legit. Observation. I mean, out of Nope. I'm one of 179 00:11:28,860 --> 00:11:31,650 these people. You know, I mean, I follow the policy even as a 180 00:11:31,650 --> 00:11:37,590 young person, just a little bit of the give people a little bit 181 00:11:37,590 --> 00:11:40,740 of understanding about where I come from. I was like, a junior 182 00:11:40,740 --> 00:11:45,900 Freedom Rider. Seventh grade treasurer. And I have to tell 183 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:48,480 that story at another time. But I guess I mean, I guess I can 184 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,880 give a short version of it. Yeah. Seventh grade, I went as 185 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,110 Treasury for my school. So I guess being a black person and 186 00:11:55,110 --> 00:11:58,860 winning that and being the treasurer of seventh grade, that 187 00:11:58,860 --> 00:12:04,260 put a flag on me to say like, really? No, I'm serious. I mean, 188 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:08,610 I was like, kind of, um, they brought me into the guidance 189 00:12:08,610 --> 00:12:11,070 counselor's office. Like, we want you to be a genuine Freedom 190 00:12:11,070 --> 00:12:15,090 Rider. And they put us on a bus and we dressed up and kind of 191 00:12:15,090 --> 00:12:21,210 went like did like cosplay for silver rights. And this is kind 192 00:12:21,210 --> 00:12:25,080 of the insight, but I always veered away from that kind of 193 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,740 thing. Like, it's just strange. seems strange to me. Because 194 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,100 when we went to these functions, they're pushing all kinds of 195 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,180 other stuff like, women showing you how to put condoms on what 196 00:12:36,180 --> 00:12:40,230 bananas, I'm like, what post we were in. Freedom, right? When 197 00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:43,470 you were seven or eight. No, seven grades? 198 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:45,570 Oh, seven grade. Oh, sorry. All right. 199 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:52,290 I'm pro black. I mean, like, pro black. I mean, like, my dad, 200 00:12:52,290 --> 00:12:54,510 like what sets them great. So there's about a right time on 201 00:12:54,510 --> 00:12:57,930 that at 13. He gives us he gave us all a copy of Malcolm X out 202 00:12:57,930 --> 00:13:01,290 about the autobiography of Malcolm X. But like he's here 203 00:13:01,290 --> 00:13:03,810 and like some weight. And I'm like, Yeah, let's go get you 204 00:13:03,810 --> 00:13:08,640 know. Let's go get our freedom. Right. And we get here and it's 205 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,250 all these liberal looking back. Now hindsight, it's all these 206 00:13:11,250 --> 00:13:16,020 liberal policies they're pushing in agenda was this was this 207 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:17,130 strain, which is 208 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:19,980 a white school, black school, obviously mixed. What was the 209 00:13:19,980 --> 00:13:21,510 degree it was mostly? 210 00:13:21,540 --> 00:13:25,530 Well, Durham is half a half from Durham from Columbia. So I would 211 00:13:25,530 --> 00:13:36,420 say it was maybe 6040 to 6535. But at these functions, it was 212 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:37,290 majority 213 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,460 white people telling you how to put a condom on a banana. Um, it 214 00:13:41,460 --> 00:13:41,580 was 215 00:13:41,580 --> 00:13:45,540 minorities. So you'd had a female it had to be female, but 216 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,780 a lot of females but yeah, it was just weird. I mean, just get 217 00:13:48,780 --> 00:13:52,710 people inside. So I kept up with politics. I mean, long story 218 00:13:52,710 --> 00:13:56,640 short, I was kind of into politics and new who ever Black 219 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,200 was running. And Barack Obama never came across my radar ever 220 00:14:01,290 --> 00:14:06,810 right? Well, that's the that's the long short four minute story 221 00:14:06,810 --> 00:14:07,050 but 222 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,310 you go freedom. Yeah, Jr. Freed. 223 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,580 Me, man. They try to indoctrinate me early. What 224 00:14:14,580 --> 00:14:14,970 happened? 225 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,330 We? We have to Yeah, we have to figure out why it didn't work. 226 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,310 Why the programming failed on Yeah. 227 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,820 Because I was taught to think for myself. Yes. Strong. 228 00:14:28,350 --> 00:14:29,610 Pretty sure that's part of it. 229 00:14:31,980 --> 00:14:36,060 Guess we can get away from that long story and get back into 230 00:14:36,090 --> 00:14:37,050 Audacity? Three, 231 00:14:37,230 --> 00:14:39,900 Mike, I think sometimes we got to get away from a president for 232 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:43,080 at least maybe a decade before we can even look back and see 233 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,050 him Hall. What do you think of Obama? Because we're gonna go 234 00:14:46,050 --> 00:14:48,090 right through this the next 20 minutes and tell me about what 235 00:14:48,090 --> 00:14:48,750 you say now? 236 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:52,890 Well, I think you have to begin by saying that this was a 237 00:14:52,890 --> 00:14:56,370 terrific chief of state. This is someone who, with that family 238 00:14:56,370 --> 00:14:59,250 and that stature and his persona, represented this 239 00:14:59,250 --> 00:15:02,370 country well Around the world and, you know, presided 240 00:15:02,370 --> 00:15:06,000 wonderfully over this country in that role. You know, the other 241 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,420 thing is that, you know, we're so pressed right now to have 242 00:15:09,420 --> 00:15:13,080 sort of an instant read on Obama's legacy, the way that 243 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,470 future generations will see him. It's gonna depend so much on 244 00:15:16,470 --> 00:15:19,890 what follows. I know it's somewhat frustrating. But let's 245 00:15:19,890 --> 00:15:24,540 say Donald Trump turns out to be an effective president and the 246 00:15:24,540 --> 00:15:28,170 economy is looking wonderful in a few years, you know, as a 247 00:15:28,170 --> 00:15:30,720 Trump goal, if Trump goes up, that's not going to be good for 248 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:31,230 Obama. 249 00:15:32,220 --> 00:15:40,980 Oh, there we, yes. And who do you know? Who that was saying? 250 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,920 Microsoft? I missed this last night. Sorry. I'm sorry. It was, 251 00:15:47,250 --> 00:15:52,590 there we have it. Yeah. The media tripled down on Obama. So 252 00:15:52,590 --> 00:15:58,920 if Trump is successful, no good, then it makes Obama look even 253 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:04,890 worse, and it makes the media look bad as well. So now you see 254 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:13,110 part of the motive of keeping the Obama and I say a product 255 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:16,200 for a reason because let's look at Obama through the same lens 256 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,940 as MLK. I'm not talking about Noman here now, a large portion 257 00:16:20,940 --> 00:16:25,110 of this show we're going to look into the man but to the media. 258 00:16:25,710 --> 00:16:33,270 Key is a product of our control mechanism. I will say this as a 259 00:16:33,270 --> 00:16:36,630 politician, you probably can't get any better politician than 260 00:16:36,660 --> 00:16:42,360 Barack Obama. One from one of history's best Absolutely. From 261 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:48,450 the just how to work a crowd and just the appearance in the 262 00:16:48,450 --> 00:16:51,390 family life and carefree comedic 263 00:16:51,390 --> 00:16:57,540 timing. A pro perfect comedic timing so good. And 264 00:16:57,540 --> 00:17:02,700 women love them because he's not he. He wasn't in women's eyes. 265 00:17:02,910 --> 00:17:07,950 I've heard you say this. He's not so attractive that he makes 266 00:17:07,950 --> 00:17:13,470 me uncomfortable. Women have a thing for him. Oh, and he was a 267 00:17:13,470 --> 00:17:16,200 lot of women's fantasy sexual 268 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,710 fantasy. Definitely. Yes, definitely a lot of white women 269 00:17:19,710 --> 00:17:23,550 sexual fantasy and densenet secret and it's and and I also 270 00:17:23,550 --> 00:17:24,660 understand that I get 271 00:17:24,660 --> 00:17:29,910 that and I will say all women and for especially single moms 272 00:17:29,910 --> 00:17:32,310 he was like that dad to point to like 273 00:17:35,130 --> 00:17:37,770 you're a doofus. Look at your stupid man with your wife 274 00:17:37,770 --> 00:17:41,610 beater. Be like Barack. Exactly. Yes, very hard, very hard for 275 00:17:41,610 --> 00:17:45,030 us. Married men, Barack Obama years. 276 00:17:45,570 --> 00:17:50,850 So hopefully, we understand part of the reason why the media will 277 00:17:50,850 --> 00:17:56,220 always protect Obama and, and bash Trump because they, the 278 00:17:56,220 --> 00:17:59,070 media got Obama elected. Let's just be honest here. I mean, 279 00:17:59,070 --> 00:18:03,870 that he was the media's candidate out the box. They did 280 00:18:03,870 --> 00:18:07,770 everything they could to undermine anybody that got into 281 00:18:07,770 --> 00:18:10,500 his way. And this and we're as we're here later in the show, 282 00:18:10,710 --> 00:18:15,990 this did this didn't just start with presidential politics. Oh, 283 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:18,510 no. No. 284 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,820 So now we have to get into a set of throwback clips, because they 285 00:18:23,940 --> 00:18:27,120 laughed lavished all this praise on him. And this guy Michael, 286 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:30,630 the last guy that spoke did this weird thing of we really need to 287 00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:35,310 wait a decade before we judge Obama. Yeah. Because if you look 288 00:18:35,310 --> 00:18:36,390 at the facts, 289 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,710 Ray find anything. Exactly 290 00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:44,910 is nothing really there especially for black people, or 291 00:18:44,910 --> 00:18:49,110 so called black people or quote unquote black people. Um, so 292 00:18:49,110 --> 00:18:53,730 let's get into this next set of throwback clips from show 23 And 293 00:18:53,730 --> 00:18:55,470 we'll start with Tavis Smiley one. 294 00:18:55,650 --> 00:18:57,780 This week while we were traveling in Iowa, we spoke with 295 00:18:57,780 --> 00:19:01,500 Mr. Smiley about what's changed over the last decade. As Martin 296 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:04,980 Luther King Day approaches on Monday. We started by talking 297 00:19:04,980 --> 00:19:08,370 about what areas if any, are better for black American now 298 00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:11,250 than they were before Barack Obama took office. 299 00:19:11,940 --> 00:19:16,890 I'm sad to report that in every single leading economic 300 00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:20,820 category, black America has lost ground over the last decade in 301 00:19:20,850 --> 00:19:24,510 every major economic category, we've lost ground. So this book 302 00:19:24,510 --> 00:19:27,750 comes out as you said in 2006. So clearly, this book was out 303 00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:30,660 before Obama shows up to win 2008. So the book was never 304 00:19:30,660 --> 00:19:34,200 about Barack Obama then this 10 year update is not about him 305 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,190 now. But it is true that over these last 10 years, most of 306 00:19:38,190 --> 00:19:41,280 that on his watch black America has lost ground and the major 307 00:19:41,490 --> 00:19:43,140 economic indicator categories. 308 00:19:43,470 --> 00:19:46,680 It didn't take long for Tavis Smiley to be off the air. 309 00:19:47,550 --> 00:19:50,520 And this is when Tavis Smiley lost his position and in black 310 00:19:50,550 --> 00:19:55,920 eight, yes, you you win against the goose that lays golden eggs. 311 00:19:55,950 --> 00:19:59,970 Yeah. And he told the truth and he received so much backlash. 312 00:20:00,540 --> 00:20:04,680 And like you said he just vanished. He was pretty much 313 00:20:05,850 --> 00:20:10,230 done. He got sued. Yeah, for so called sexual harassment and 314 00:20:11,550 --> 00:20:16,350 unpleasant workplace atmosphere, hostile workplace and a whole 315 00:20:16,350 --> 00:20:21,360 bunch of stuff. And so then PBS dropped him and then from there 316 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:22,260 just went downhill. 317 00:20:23,129 --> 00:20:26,099 And he was labeled as one of the worst things you can be in the 318 00:20:26,099 --> 00:20:31,499 black community. Really a hater. Hater. You're just the Obama 319 00:20:31,499 --> 00:20:33,629 hater. You're just a hater. You know, 320 00:20:34,199 --> 00:20:35,069 he's that to this day. 321 00:20:35,370 --> 00:20:38,520 Surely that's changed for some people that they don't think not 322 00:20:38,550 --> 00:20:40,410 that anymore or is he still was 323 00:20:40,410 --> 00:20:43,830 subconsciously when putting these clips together? That was a 324 00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:46,530 subconscious I mean, of course, he was conscious about thought 325 00:20:46,530 --> 00:20:50,340 about it, but it was a looming, let me use that word a looming 326 00:20:50,940 --> 00:20:54,000 thought is like don't come across as just a hater. All 327 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,730 right, we need we need to have fun. No, it's serious because 328 00:20:56,730 --> 00:21:02,760 I'm with you. This is a test you can do to see what the who 329 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:08,640 you're talking to bring up Obama and see the Obama test right? 330 00:21:08,790 --> 00:21:12,600 You have the you have the obat, which he never did anything 331 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:18,480 wrong and keep they'll even they'll go as far to as explain 332 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,360 away why he didn't get anything done with the first two years 333 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:25,470 when he had, you know, everything lined up for him. 334 00:21:25,620 --> 00:21:28,800 They'll make excuses for that. But at the same time, they'll 335 00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:32,250 say he's the greatest thing ever happened to us. So those Oh, 336 00:21:32,250 --> 00:21:35,940 bots. Yeah. And then you have those people as well. He was 337 00:21:36,570 --> 00:21:37,680 good optics. You know? 338 00:21:38,850 --> 00:21:41,820 It's interesting. I was talking with the keeper about this just 339 00:21:41,820 --> 00:21:46,890 last night. My coincidence. I remember when, and I probably 340 00:21:46,890 --> 00:21:50,850 have a clip from it somewhere. For the first two weeks after 341 00:21:50,850 --> 00:21:56,070 Obama was elected the first time the police were everywhere, 342 00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:58,590 saying hey, we're gonna be really on the watch anyone says 343 00:21:58,590 --> 00:22:02,010 any racist shit, we're coming after you. They were like super 344 00:22:02,010 --> 00:22:04,350 protectors of Obama. Do you remember that? 345 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:08,460 Not No, I don't remember that. But I remember it was like a 346 00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:14,580 long like four month hangover. After he won of just party, 347 00:22:14,610 --> 00:22:17,820 especially inauguration it seemed like it never ate me. Oh, 348 00:22:17,820 --> 00:22:25,530 yeah, there's Yeah, um, but it was. I'll mention his now just 349 00:22:25,530 --> 00:22:29,370 so people. If I hadn't heard previous shows, there was the 350 00:22:29,370 --> 00:22:34,920 wink wink nod nod. The first four years he has to do is now 351 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,790 be presidential. And well, if we can just get him to the second 352 00:22:38,790 --> 00:22:39,180 tower, 353 00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:42,750 then then he's gonna do all the cool stuff for black folks. 354 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,300 Right, reparations, all that, you know. Yeah. And that was not 355 00:22:48,330 --> 00:22:51,450 verbalized. But that was the that was the wink wink nod nod 356 00:22:51,450 --> 00:22:53,550 like we got, we got one we got went in. 357 00:22:53,610 --> 00:22:55,770 And there was no reason not to think that were there any 358 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,820 community leaders who were spearheading this wink wink, 359 00:22:59,820 --> 00:23:02,430 nudge nudge? Or was it really everyone? Not even Al Sharpton 360 00:23:02,430 --> 00:23:03,360 was saying anything? 361 00:23:03,660 --> 00:23:06,120 You couldn't talk about it though? Right? Because like, you 362 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:10,440 don't want to scare white folks. Case good white voters, you 363 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:18,180 know. So that was the balance because the his the makeup of 364 00:23:18,180 --> 00:23:23,430 what got him elected? was a lot of people it had to take it had 365 00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:25,770 to be a lot of white people. I mean, of course, sure, black 366 00:23:25,770 --> 00:23:30,090 turnout, but he still is like this balance that he can't seem 367 00:23:30,090 --> 00:23:33,600 too scary. But he's one of ours, you know, in many who can't in 368 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,950 many ways, in many ways. I think it was a bit of a reparation 369 00:23:37,950 --> 00:23:38,490 vote. 370 00:23:39,930 --> 00:23:44,100 Just considering goggles or do I just keep going? 371 00:23:44,910 --> 00:23:47,100 No, please. Follow you up. 372 00:23:47,130 --> 00:23:51,570 It was not a not a guilt vote. It was really a reparation vote. 373 00:23:51,570 --> 00:23:53,880 Because I think when people voted for Obama, they really 374 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,320 want it to my uncle, Republican all his life, CIA guy total, you 375 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,910 know, best friends with Bush Senior Obama twice. And it was 376 00:24:02,910 --> 00:24:06,060 really, and of course, the hope and change message worked 377 00:24:06,060 --> 00:24:10,620 extremely well. Although, you know, it was, I think, rightly, 378 00:24:10,620 --> 00:24:17,880 universally scoffed. But the sad thing is, I really believe that 379 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:23,100 if Obama had spent time in his second term on doing well, let's 380 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:29,190 just call on getting tangibles. I think I think he could have 381 00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:32,280 gotten it. I really do. I think he had the motivation. Yeah, 382 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,970 screw the Republicans, or whatever. You know what? I think 383 00:24:35,970 --> 00:24:40,470 he could have gotten stuff done. Like real tangible stuff. 384 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,430 I'm glad you call it a reparations vote. And it's not 385 00:24:44,430 --> 00:24:46,980 the fact that it's like oh, we voted because we owe you 386 00:24:46,980 --> 00:24:51,480 something. It was the fact that see if you put up a quality 387 00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:56,310 black person for the job, I don't mind hiring me it goes to 388 00:24:56,310 --> 00:25:00,360 show you my I'm all about the content of your character. No, 389 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,330 no. Did you use that line? Yeah, so it was like white people felt 390 00:25:03,330 --> 00:25:07,140 like see you put up a quality candidate will vote for him. Um, 391 00:25:07,230 --> 00:25:10,800 now I will say this about reparations, the same high that 392 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,490 we had of the post racial America that they shot to sell 393 00:25:14,490 --> 00:25:19,800 us to sell us on. Real reparations will do that, and it 394 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,730 will have the real effect. Because it's like, job. I mean, 395 00:25:23,730 --> 00:25:27,270 like, we handle that. So you can't can't beat me over the 396 00:25:27,270 --> 00:25:29,760 head with anymore. And that's why I'm a proponent of 397 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:30,420 reparations, 398 00:25:30,450 --> 00:25:34,050 right? So it's done. So it's done. And over with Yeah. 399 00:25:34,410 --> 00:25:38,820 Now we can start talking about this 400 year narrative, which I 400 00:25:38,850 --> 00:25:42,570 always say the narrative is just as dangerous as the action. 401 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,070 Because kidding. That's what the mental slavery stems from, is 402 00:25:47,070 --> 00:25:51,120 the narrative. So you could put a tie that up, put a button on 403 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:55,650 it, and then you can go and you know, start snoring forward 404 00:25:55,650 --> 00:26:00,210 slavery. Exactly. So I just want to let people know that Hi. And 405 00:26:00,210 --> 00:26:05,400 that camaraderie that we had to post right, right after Obama 406 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:12,480 and pre the Bure gate. We can get that. That could be the 407 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:18,450 real, that could be the real feeling. So yeah, I guess we can 408 00:26:18,450 --> 00:26:22,860 let Tavis Smiley continue on with to talking about how we 409 00:26:22,860 --> 00:26:23,610 lost ground? 410 00:26:23,850 --> 00:26:26,460 What accounts for the fact that less that there's so little 411 00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:29,070 progress or indeed, the backsliding? What accounts for 412 00:26:29,070 --> 00:26:32,880 that going on? Under the the leadership of the first African 413 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,950 American president? Why do we explain that VM? 414 00:26:34,980 --> 00:26:36,660 I think there are few things into your question. How do we 415 00:26:36,660 --> 00:26:39,450 explain it? I don't know. I think the historians are going 416 00:26:39,450 --> 00:26:42,750 to have a very difficult time trying to juxtapose how in the 417 00:26:42,750 --> 00:26:45,570 era of the first black president, the bottom fell out 418 00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:48,120 for black America, that's gonna be a hard juxtaposition to make, 419 00:26:48,330 --> 00:26:51,990 I hope to be around to read what their account is for why they 420 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:55,140 think that happened. But my research and this text suggest a 421 00:26:55,140 --> 00:26:57,660 few things in no particular order. Number one, there was too 422 00:26:57,660 --> 00:27:01,020 much deference to the President by black people. We got so 423 00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:03,750 caught up in the symbolism that we didn't press hard enough on 424 00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:06,690 the substance. And so symbolism does matter. I just think 425 00:27:06,690 --> 00:27:09,090 substance matters as well. And so there was too much deference 426 00:27:09,090 --> 00:27:11,790 in some part. To the president on the part of black people, 427 00:27:11,790 --> 00:27:15,810 black leaders were sidelined and silenced too often in favor of 428 00:27:15,810 --> 00:27:18,570 an invitation to the White House. And so more could have 429 00:27:18,570 --> 00:27:21,060 been done in terms of pressing an agenda. You look at the gay 430 00:27:21,060 --> 00:27:23,940 and lesbian community. Look at the environmental movement. Of 431 00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:25,890 course, Wall Street gets everything they want, but look 432 00:27:25,890 --> 00:27:28,860 at what other communities gained over the last decade. And look 433 00:27:28,860 --> 00:27:32,670 how black America wasn't just stagnant, but indeed lost ground 434 00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:35,190 over the last 10 years in part one, because we were too 435 00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:35,730 deferential 436 00:27:36,419 --> 00:27:43,949 man. He's probably ground zero of the cancel cannon. Can we get 437 00:27:43,949 --> 00:27:44,129 one? 438 00:27:44,850 --> 00:27:45,960 Yes, have a smile. 439 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,690 He never gotta get a cannon because he was he was before his 440 00:27:51,690 --> 00:27:53,160 time a tree was trending. 441 00:27:55,950 --> 00:27:59,880 And he says he said it. He was saying why I'm going to be 442 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,540 canceled because you can't say anything bad about him. You got 443 00:28:03,540 --> 00:28:06,300 it. You know, all the leaders were sideline, yeah, nobody 444 00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:12,420 questioned him. And it was just at least he wasn't lying to 445 00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:15,570 everybody we use when you back in the corner, a mechanic 446 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,470 they'll have a thing from Obama. They say at least the show my 447 00:28:19,470 --> 00:28:21,570 kids they one day can be black president. 448 00:28:22,020 --> 00:28:27,390 Right. That's that's pretty much the whole legacy. At least it 449 00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:31,110 starts with at least Yeah, that's too bad. Yeah, that's 450 00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:35,610 really too bad. And really a miss chance. I mean, I never. I 451 00:28:35,610 --> 00:28:39,480 knew very early on something was up not with Obama. But I was 452 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:41,940 going back and forth between London and San Francisco at the 453 00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:45,810 time and in the condo I was renting or apartment I was 454 00:28:45,810 --> 00:28:49,620 renting the my next door neighbor she was I think that's 455 00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:53,640 maybe where I do start using the term and Obama bought. And they 456 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,810 had camps. And she would volunteer. And these camps were 457 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:03,720 like, three days in a row and you'd learn how to harass people 458 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:10,920 voting for Obama. It was it was she was white. And really, 459 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:17,250 really dedicated compared to now I would say, probably with an 460 00:29:17,250 --> 00:29:20,670 undertone of a Black Lives Matter type vigor, you know what 461 00:29:20,670 --> 00:29:23,850 I mean? But I'm not without saying what you're gonna vote 462 00:29:23,850 --> 00:29:26,400 for the black man. You know, almost it's not verbalizing 463 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,230 that, but it was pretty clear and also a very strong sense of, 464 00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:35,430 if you're not for Obama, then you're no good. There was a very 465 00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:36,660 strong sense of that. 466 00:29:37,380 --> 00:29:40,860 Let me say like, like, I think I hear if you're not for Obama, 467 00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:41,880 you're against black people. 468 00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:45,840 Well, that's obviously the implication. Yes, of course. 469 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,990 You're obviously a racist, racist. Yeah, that's what white 470 00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:53,130 people do to each other. 471 00:29:54,030 --> 00:29:58,380 Well, no, because it's happening on the other side. Now we're 45 472 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:04,860 If you forget Donald Trump do you have to be Akun? His hands 473 00:30:04,860 --> 00:30:08,850 across the border buddy There you go. Same thing. It's the 474 00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:11,580 same thing it's like you browbeaten into believing what 475 00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:13,890 everybody else wants you to believe instead of having your 476 00:30:13,890 --> 00:30:14,580 own but 477 00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:18,240 it's a clue is Akun just as bad as a racist or is a racist? 478 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,060 Worst? I mean, what Trump's in paper, scissors, paper, rock 479 00:30:21,060 --> 00:30:22,440 scissors, you know which one we 480 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,700 saw a cone is equal to what they call a race, traitor. I mean, 481 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,490 that's the best that's a trade nation real traitor. Okay, 482 00:30:29,730 --> 00:30:34,380 right. Right. So, modeling the worst thing to hurtful version 483 00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:38,040 of Uncle Tom, you're asked it. I mean, you're ousted from the 484 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,420 communities. Right. Gotcha. I'm advertisement out Tavis Smiley 485 00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:49,080 but worse. Okay, so I got it. Yeah. So I guess we'll wrap up 486 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,060 with the final clip from from Tavis 487 00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:53,250 number two. And clearly there was indifference. There's no 488 00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:55,890 doubt about the fact that this President received the kind of 489 00:30:55,890 --> 00:30:58,920 headwind that no presidents ever received, there was clearly 490 00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,890 obstructionism so that that's a factor as well. But the third 491 00:31:01,890 --> 00:31:05,100 factor, I think, I would put as a question, I think, again, 492 00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:09,090 historians would debate this for years to come. Did Barack Obama 493 00:31:09,090 --> 00:31:11,760 not get enough done on black issues? Because he was 494 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,620 obstructed? Or did not try hard enough? He did not do enough? 495 00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:19,470 And I think the answer is clearly both. We'll see what the 496 00:31:19,470 --> 00:31:21,720 historians come down on that. But this book, again, is not 497 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,290 about him, per se. It's about where black America is. 10 years 498 00:31:25,290 --> 00:31:28,290 after that text. And again, it's just not a happy report. There 499 00:31:28,290 --> 00:31:30,960 are pockets of progress. But across the board, we've 500 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,440 regressed 501 00:31:31,649 --> 00:31:35,999 this was Tavis promoting his book. Yes. Do you know the title 502 00:31:35,999 --> 00:31:36,899 of it by any chance? 503 00:31:37,739 --> 00:31:42,599 I think it is. Black America lost ground in robotics 504 00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:46,289 something similar to the title of the clips? No, I'll 505 00:31:46,290 --> 00:31:49,050 make sure I get it in the show notes. Alright, so 506 00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:56,640 that's how it began and how ended. So what we had to do now 507 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,600 is feeling we're not really gonna get into his any of his 508 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,100 policies or things that nature. I want to get into who was 509 00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:09,330 Barack Obama, before he was presented to us and Oh, four. 510 00:32:10,350 --> 00:32:14,340 And then what was the fallout of having him for eight years? 511 00:32:14,340 --> 00:32:17,760 That's kind of like where we're going with this show. So the 512 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:23,130 biggest fear of Brock Obama, I would say from and I can't I'm 513 00:32:23,130 --> 00:32:27,420 speaking out of place here, because I'm not a white person, 514 00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:30,660 but a non black person, the biggest fear was, he could 515 00:32:30,660 --> 00:32:34,440 secretly be an angry black man. Right? That's that's the secret 516 00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:40,080 in so much. So. They had the angry translator. At the press 517 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:46,350 dinner, I believe, I believe it was, um, it was a pill from KMP. 518 00:32:47,970 --> 00:32:51,930 Yeah, like a bomb was say something and then peel would 519 00:32:52,110 --> 00:32:57,660 translate it an angry black man, boy, remember this? Yes. So they 520 00:32:57,660 --> 00:33:01,830 actually did one on the show. On the Key and Peele show itself. 521 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,460 Let's just I mean, it's funny how art imitates life, which 522 00:33:05,490 --> 00:33:09,390 imitates art, right? I mean, it's this cyclical thing. So 523 00:33:09,390 --> 00:33:12,630 let's get into the art portion of it with Obama's anger 524 00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:13,350 translator. 525 00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:22,290 And evening, my fellow Americans. Now, before I begin, 526 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,500 I just want to say that I know a lot of people out there seem to 527 00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:30,180 think that I don't get angry. That's just not true. I get 528 00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:34,830 angry a lot. It's just the way I express passion is different 529 00:33:34,830 --> 00:33:39,840 from most. So just so there's no more confusion. We've hired 530 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,310 Luther here to be my anger translator Luthor. First off, 531 00:33:44,610 --> 00:33:46,380 Concerning the recent developments in the Middle 532 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:49,470 Eastern region, I just want to reiterate our unflinching 533 00:33:49,470 --> 00:33:52,920 support for all people and the right to a democratic process. 534 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:55,740 Hey, all y'all dictators out there. keep messing around and 535 00:33:55,740 --> 00:33:58,770 see what happens. Just see what happens. Watch, 536 00:33:58,860 --> 00:34:04,320 also to the governments of Iran and North Korea. We once again 537 00:34:04,350 --> 00:34:07,350 urge you to discontinue your uranium enrichment programs 538 00:34:07,380 --> 00:34:13,620 mu Kim Jong Un until both y'all 86 Shit bitches Oh, come over 539 00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:17,220 there and do a thorough y'all. Please test me and see what 540 00:34:17,220 --> 00:34:17,670 happens. 541 00:34:18,150 --> 00:34:22,500 On the domestic front. I just want to say to my critics, I 542 00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:24,930 hear your voices and I'm aware of your concerns. So 543 00:34:24,929 --> 00:34:27,779 maybe you could chill the hell out like a second then maybe I 544 00:34:27,779 --> 00:34:29,579 can focus on some shit. You know? 545 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:33,480 That goes for everybody. You have an interesting you have an 546 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,680 interesting take on that told me again. You thought that perhaps 547 00:34:37,830 --> 00:34:42,060 people were worried he was an angry black man. Secretly an 548 00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:44,640 angry black man? Are they fear of that? 549 00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:48,360 Yes. Fear of that because they thought behind the smile and 550 00:34:48,390 --> 00:34:53,160 well who's the white people? Okay, I'm gonna say this. This 551 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,010 is the perception of black people. Oh, white people 552 00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:59,610 concerning Obama's good and the fear of all the good good 553 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,380 I did not take that at all. I've never heard this I in my core of 554 00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:07,410 whiteness. I don't feel it. I'll tell you what it was, to me it 555 00:35:07,410 --> 00:35:13,320 meant and still means is the guy doesn't have enough black 556 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,270 credibility and needs a little toughening up a little, little 557 00:35:18,270 --> 00:35:22,170 gangster, little gangster narrative. So, yeah, he talks 558 00:35:22,170 --> 00:35:24,930 like this, but this is really, really what's going down and 559 00:35:24,930 --> 00:35:28,560 quite honestly, that's not much different than what Trump says 560 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:33,450 in Trump language. Hey, hey, little man, a rocket man. Yes. 561 00:35:33,810 --> 00:35:37,500 That's why I rang the bell. Luther actually sounds like 562 00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:41,490 true. Yeah, yeah. It's like, Obama thinks it and it's okay 563 00:35:41,490 --> 00:35:44,460 for him to think it. But you just can't say it. And I think 564 00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:50,640 that's why people really have it out for 45 Savage is that he 565 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,420 actually said, 566 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:58,740 you just say 45. Savage. For Trump. You've not introduced 567 00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:05,760 this on the show. I have you. Yeah. 45 seconds. Yes. 568 00:36:07,110 --> 00:36:09,930 Seriously, this is this is this is what I love is this is very 569 00:36:09,930 --> 00:36:13,440 interesting. I reached, of course, there outliers, but in 570 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,130 general, I don't think there were any white people were all 571 00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:22,080 in man. Yeah, well, there was issues, of course, and there was 572 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:27,000 narrative in the media. But to me, this was something actually, 573 00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:33,570 to me. It made it it worked for him. I was like, yeah. Why don't 574 00:36:33,570 --> 00:36:36,090 you talk like that was actually kind of my can I remember this? 575 00:36:36,810 --> 00:36:39,810 Angry? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 576 00:36:39,899 --> 00:36:41,429 I understand why he can't 577 00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:45,360 do that. But last day you can be in America is an angry black man 578 00:36:45,390 --> 00:36:46,110 on the street. 579 00:36:46,259 --> 00:36:50,639 I understand. And I don't want to take away from your flow. But 580 00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:55,949 it's not pleased. It's just as interesting to me that you and 581 00:36:55,949 --> 00:36:59,189 we're generalizing. You say black people thought that's what 582 00:36:59,189 --> 00:37:03,599 white people thought about the black man. And I'm just saying, 583 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,839 I don't think so. I don't think there was a majority of people 584 00:37:06,839 --> 00:37:10,469 scared about him being an angry black man. I think they were 585 00:37:10,469 --> 00:37:14,849 scared of other things, which we didn't which were unknown, you 586 00:37:14,849 --> 00:37:19,799 know, his real background, you got this fuzziness of, of the 587 00:37:19,799 --> 00:37:24,089 birth certificate? Is he is he? Is he a Muslim? You know, there 588 00:37:24,089 --> 00:37:28,199 was a lot of shit being thrown in the air, angry black man, not 589 00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:30,539 one of the memes I remember, that's all doesn't doesn't 590 00:37:30,930 --> 00:37:34,470 know, that's just as good as the undercurrent of being a Marxist. 591 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:38,190 That's the undercurrent of being maybe a sleeper cell terrorist. 592 00:37:38,190 --> 00:37:42,450 You know, he's fueled by some kind of anger. That's what I'm 593 00:37:42,450 --> 00:37:43,950 saying. Okay, and let me 594 00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:47,550 again, I'm with that. And with that, let 595 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,230 me say the anger manifests itself, as all he wants to 596 00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:55,950 destroy the American America or he's, he's the Antichrist or I 597 00:37:55,950 --> 00:37:57,450 mean, like, all of you think, Oh, yeah. 598 00:37:58,530 --> 00:38:00,630 All of that is true. Of course. It's 599 00:38:02,010 --> 00:38:06,210 it's deep seated in that anger. And let me let me as I say, I 600 00:38:06,210 --> 00:38:08,580 got I have to say this because we've never breached it when we 601 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:13,980 broach this topic before the angry black man. Black man has 602 00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:19,590 to be self conscious of how we're perceived not to come off 603 00:38:19,590 --> 00:38:26,400 as angry. And this is a real thing, because just say if I'm 604 00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:30,630 somewhere and worker was somewhere, and I have a scowl on 605 00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:34,620 my face from thinking like when I'm in thought, yes, cow. Yeah, 606 00:38:34,830 --> 00:38:37,230 people can't see you say you're right. Yeah, everything. 607 00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:48,330 Everything alright. Mmm hmm. That's nice. That was a real 608 00:38:48,330 --> 00:38:52,500 phenomenon has to be talked about? Yeah. And this is why 609 00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,860 people say oh, why Black men so docile. It's called like if I 610 00:38:55,860 --> 00:39:01,110 raise my voice to say like, go crazy. Well in that fierce being 611 00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:04,260 really scared. You have to be 612 00:39:04,290 --> 00:39:08,070 I had an experience a couple of months ago was during the 613 00:39:08,070 --> 00:39:13,380 lockdown and I just come out of the grocery store and I and I 614 00:39:13,380 --> 00:39:18,420 drive into a very busy intersection and so but but of 615 00:39:18,420 --> 00:39:21,240 course it's it's Rona locked down so there's not not a lot of 616 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:25,410 cars there's cars and I got a I got a full green light. So I'm 617 00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:29,100 just moving and this this guy he starts you know, he's starts 618 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:33,270 crossing the road look sees me and does one of those slow 619 00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:36,450 crosses. So he's crossing on red, you know, and it's just 620 00:39:36,450 --> 00:39:43,350 really slow. Now he looked he was he was dark skinned. i He 621 00:39:43,410 --> 00:39:46,950 could have been didn't look homeless look more Grifters but 622 00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:50,640 doesn't really matter. And as I just slow down, and the guys 623 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:56,040 just slipped, you know, I'm like, so I tap the horn BB. And 624 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:01,530 the guy goes into a rage and jealous than angry black man. 625 00:40:01,770 --> 00:40:04,560 And for me the here's here's the reason why I wouldn't have 626 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,040 brought it up otherwise, but I felt so comfortable. It didn't 627 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,670 scare me at all. I think the show has influenced me. I'm 628 00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:15,300 like, Wow, all right, man, you go ahead, you wave your arms all 629 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:18,270 you want, but I could see the other motorists because I 630 00:40:18,270 --> 00:40:22,470 stopped and open when Windows said, Hey, man, just chill out, 631 00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:27,120 bro. Just follow the rules. We all got to do it. But I just I 632 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,260 didn't feel scared at all. Which is new for me because I'm sure I 633 00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:32,430 would have in the past. 634 00:40:33,210 --> 00:40:38,100 And just to just to wrap this up, this is this. What? In black 635 00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:41,790 people's mind, especially black men. Yeah, the appearing as 636 00:40:41,790 --> 00:40:45,750 angry blasts was really what heightens the fear between cops, 637 00:40:45,810 --> 00:40:48,870 young black men, because it's like you coming into the 638 00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:51,780 situation? And what you can have one cop it's cool. It's like 639 00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:54,600 Hey, bro, you know? Right, right. And then the next cop 640 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,820 comes on life hasn't heard. I mean, 641 00:40:57,810 --> 00:41:01,110 do you know what the difference is between those cops? I have no 642 00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:03,330 idea. The one cop has done the work. 643 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,200 No, you're exactly right. It's 644 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,010 really true. It's just not the work that Robyn D'Angelo is is 645 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:14,520 serving? 646 00:41:16,050 --> 00:41:18,600 Yeah, but you have experience with dealing with it. It's 647 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,380 cultural. It's interesting. It's very cultural. 648 00:41:22,529 --> 00:41:25,799 I think that is a topic for the future we might want to expand 649 00:41:25,799 --> 00:41:28,859 on because that's a really good one. And it's it's a meta, it's 650 00:41:28,859 --> 00:41:30,479 meta across everything. 651 00:41:31,710 --> 00:41:35,250 So to get to this angry black man that America feared, I felt 652 00:41:35,250 --> 00:41:38,400 this clip of this young black man who probably be about the 653 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,030 same age as Brock Obama, maybe a little older, but maybe from the 654 00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:46,080 same generation, but he comes from a das lineage. Yeah, um, 655 00:41:46,140 --> 00:41:48,450 which is a huge difference. I mean, it makes a huge 656 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,590 difference, as we're gonna hear later on in the show. But this 657 00:41:52,590 --> 00:41:55,260 is what America feared. Barack Obama may be 658 00:41:56,190 --> 00:42:00,480 the first to tell us that it is manly to keep your word. Right. 659 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,040 If you are a man, you keep your word. And now all the black 660 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,130 people in this country are demanding and even black people 661 00:42:08,130 --> 00:42:12,870 in the whole world are demanding is that you keep your word. You 662 00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:17,610 told us we were free. Well then show us that we're free. You 663 00:42:17,610 --> 00:42:20,790 told us that there is justice equality for all in this 664 00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:24,570 country, you will then can stick to your word. And let us see the 665 00:42:24,570 --> 00:42:29,100 justice and equality for all. Or else admit to us that you're not 666 00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:31,530 a man, you're a word you're afraid of us you're afraid to 667 00:42:31,530 --> 00:42:36,000 give us equal. You're afraid that if you give us equal ground 668 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,990 that we will match you and we will override you. And if that's 669 00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:42,870 what you're afraid of us, tell us that just what you were 670 00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:47,100 afraid of. But don't keep hiding it from us and holding this up 671 00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:50,010 to us. And every time we ask you for something, you give us a 672 00:42:50,010 --> 00:42:53,130 little bit of something and it's all tucked in. We don't want 673 00:42:53,130 --> 00:42:56,610 tokenism and then most black men in this wallet don't want 674 00:42:56,610 --> 00:43:00,240 charity. And yet still every time we ask you for something 675 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:02,610 you give us a little piece a little piece you're playing 676 00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:09,360 games with us when I've seen my father have to put it well kinds 677 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,040 of stuff. He was a big man, he raised a family he went down and 678 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,840 he had to go around to the back door with his wife. without 679 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,930 asking for anything we're not asking for any favors. All we 680 00:43:21,930 --> 00:43:23,250 want is what's ours. 681 00:43:25,230 --> 00:43:28,620 Yeah, yep. So of course that 682 00:43:29,010 --> 00:43:34,350 so that's what they were afraid of or him being when you're that 683 00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:38,850 kind of black men are raised by that kind of black man. As my 684 00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:41,970 this sounds a lot like my father, I'm just gonna say that 685 00:43:41,970 --> 00:43:46,890 as in I did everything right and you still want to mess with me. 686 00:43:47,130 --> 00:43:51,660 And they thought that's behind that smile of Obama and the cool 687 00:43:51,870 --> 00:43:57,660 as a cucumber demeanor Right? Was was lying that now other 688 00:43:57,660 --> 00:44:00,270 people have other things that you know that we talked about, 689 00:44:00,270 --> 00:44:04,530 you know, terrorists, things that nature, but I believe in 690 00:44:04,530 --> 00:44:07,920 black people's minds, we thought White people had that fear. And 691 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,250 that's where a lot of criticism came from. So when you wanted to 692 00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:14,820 criticize him, you were aligning yourself with that thought. 693 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,060 Well, I hope I made myself Yes, yeah, 694 00:44:18,060 --> 00:44:21,930 no, it's it's totally clear. But you also understand that I think 695 00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:26,490 that that was much less in people's minds. I understand the 696 00:44:26,490 --> 00:44:27,120 undercurrent. 697 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,770 No, no, no, I'm just explaining to you why he was given a pass 698 00:44:31,770 --> 00:44:35,280 and couldn't be criticized. Of course, white people didn't want 699 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,960 to appear that way. What I just laid out and black people didn't 700 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,340 want to appear align with that. So it's like no, no, very 701 00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:46,740 delicate, very delicate balance, but it worked. 702 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:53,130 Yes. And he knew how to navigate that very well. To not play the 703 00:44:53,130 --> 00:44:56,940 race car but just like flashes like, let's go play. 704 00:44:57,690 --> 00:45:00,120 Wow, there it is. Just a little little corner. All 705 00:45:00,750 --> 00:45:09,030 right. Um, so as we learn more and more about, um, Barry, we 706 00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:14,010 get to say he's the furthest thing from that. I mean he and I 707 00:45:14,010 --> 00:45:16,860 guess the people that put him in power knew that so you like you 708 00:45:16,860 --> 00:45:19,080 don't want to have a black man with the new codes. I mean, 709 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:24,000 like, hey, they might have y'all but they felt safe that he 710 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,300 wouldn't be that way. And it's maybe because this is his 711 00:45:27,870 --> 00:45:31,380 upbringing background to look into his upbringing and 712 00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:34,470 background. We're gonna jump right into it. Yeah, we have a 713 00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:38,670 throwback clip from Judge Joe Brown. On Barry, 714 00:45:38,970 --> 00:45:43,770 as anybody black ever gone and checked out who it isn't. 715 00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:47,970 Went through school is 716 00:45:47,970 --> 00:45:54,240 Barry Soetoro, his stepfather and adoptive father, low low 717 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:59,730 lol. Soto Toro, dad is one of the 20 richest men on the planet 718 00:45:59,730 --> 00:46:06,540 Earth. Obama is beneficiary of a trust fund. Along with his two 719 00:46:06,540 --> 00:46:11,550 half siblings. He is probably the richest man to ever occupy 720 00:46:11,550 --> 00:46:16,890 the White House. Lolo Soetoro was a major and Indonesian army 721 00:46:17,370 --> 00:46:22,830 and a contractor with the CIA. What daddy did was run death 722 00:46:22,830 --> 00:46:26,910 squads for the Indonesian government. He was an executive 723 00:46:26,910 --> 00:46:30,600 vice president for Standard Oil and when he decided to set up 724 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:37,200 his own company in Indonesia, where possibly the world's 725 00:46:37,260 --> 00:46:41,520 largest oil reserves are located. Imagine he used his 726 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,440 position of having an active death squad it is proposal to 727 00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:52,140 facilitate some of his business dealings. And now, interestingly 728 00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:56,970 enough, there are documented moments between George Herbert 729 00:46:56,970 --> 00:47:03,150 Walker Bush, who was head of the CIA at the time and Lolo Soetoro 730 00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:10,080 certain arrangements and they were frequent golf partners. And 731 00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:15,750 Lolo Soetoro used Goldman Sachs as its as his American 732 00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:19,560 financier, or financial banking institution. 733 00:47:21,210 --> 00:47:25,230 Yeah, it was really interesting to see that Wikipedia does not 734 00:47:25,230 --> 00:47:27,870 have any of that information on Lolo Sotero. 735 00:47:28,860 --> 00:47:33,030 Not actually, you can't find any information on Harley, I mean, 736 00:47:33,780 --> 00:47:36,810 as JoJo Brown said and further clips, and if you want to hear 737 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,430 more about that, go back to show 14 But as you said in on clips 738 00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:46,560 after that, that he had to go like to page 1415 on Google just 739 00:47:46,830 --> 00:47:50,400 on a Google search. Yeah, just just to buy anything. Oh, yes, 740 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,270 exactly. Well, luckily, that was poor auto quality, because I 741 00:47:54,270 --> 00:47:56,640 think JoJo brown being interviewed in a restaurant over 742 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,920 dinner, he did a studio interview. And he shared more 743 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:09,180 details on this. Not well publicized past of Barack Obama. 744 00:48:09,450 --> 00:48:12,900 And I will say this JoJo Brown. He's a very serious person. I 745 00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:19,680 mean, he's a judge. I mean, I don't take him to be a hater. I 746 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,720 mean, because that's, I mean, that's the word right? I mean, 747 00:48:21,900 --> 00:48:25,770 he's not Obama hater. But if you do your homework, you'll start 748 00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:32,250 to find some of these things have a lot of validity soon. So 749 00:48:32,610 --> 00:48:37,860 I guess we can get into the cleaner version audio cleaner of 750 00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:39,300 a bomb was past one. 751 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:45,300 And the last one number 44. and wonderful to add 43 Bush and 752 00:48:45,330 --> 00:48:50,460 Obama. Well, their pictures are bush with his arm around eight 753 00:48:50,460 --> 00:48:54,810 year old Barack Obama because his stepdad he adopted daddy 754 00:48:54,810 --> 00:48:58,950 Lolo Soetoro and done a lifetime where the business with the 755 00:48:58,950 --> 00:49:05,250 Bush's Uncle George Herbert Walker, after whom George 756 00:49:05,250 --> 00:49:09,180 Herbert Walker Bush Bush, one president was named, founded 757 00:49:09,180 --> 00:49:13,890 Halliburton in 1946 and Oklahoma, and Lolo Soetoro had 758 00:49:13,890 --> 00:49:18,150 been internationally Executive Vice President for Standard Oil 759 00:49:18,210 --> 00:49:22,200 there was talk of him being a CIA as well yes, he ran the 760 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,220 death squads for the Indonesian army on his own call. Anyone 761 00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:31,140 could be assassinated. So when George Herbert Walker Bush 762 00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:35,310 became head of the CIA on to the Ford administration he just got 763 00:49:35,310 --> 00:49:39,660 with his old buddy in the oil business Lolo Soetoro and pulled 764 00:49:39,660 --> 00:49:40,500 off the hitch 765 00:49:44,010 --> 00:49:48,630 Oh, yeah. Well, so reason why I'm laying this out is people 766 00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:51,660 like what's the what does have to do a thing. I want to lay 767 00:49:51,660 --> 00:49:56,220 this narrative out so when we listen to the clips after this, 768 00:49:56,610 --> 00:50:02,160 we can see see it through the lens of possibly Barack Obama 769 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:07,080 being a control asset slash, I hate to use this word because 770 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,070 it's a loaded term Manchurian Candidate. I don't mean, in the 771 00:50:11,070 --> 00:50:14,400 terms of he's gonna go crazy and do something, but just being 772 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,380 controlled from the from the onset. 773 00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:20,820 And having done a lot of this work for no agenda, it's 774 00:50:20,820 --> 00:50:24,330 probably worth mentioning that it's gonna sound pretty crazy. 775 00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:30,510 But all of these connections really do make sense. And you 776 00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:32,550 can find that I'm putting stuff in the show notes right now 777 00:50:32,550 --> 00:50:37,410 about the sub Taros. And the Indonesian massacres between 65 778 00:50:37,410 --> 00:50:43,770 and I think 9090 And it's this is not fantasy and the CIA stuff 779 00:50:43,770 --> 00:50:45,960 is also I think demonstrably true. 780 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,360 And the far more interesting facts and and branch on that 781 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:57,030 tree is the Dunham's is maternal grandparents. Oh, yeah. I think 782 00:50:57,030 --> 00:51:01,560 it's, yeah, his grandfather and grandmother had ties to 783 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,610 governmental agencies. Oh, I guess, um, let's just go ahead 784 00:51:05,610 --> 00:51:08,310 and let Joe roll. He's on. He's on a roll. So let's let him 785 00:51:08,310 --> 00:51:08,880 continue. 786 00:51:09,780 --> 00:51:12,450 And even some of the richest people in America don't make 787 00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:16,110 that why? Because when his stepdad he died, he was one of 788 00:51:16,110 --> 00:51:20,160 the 1015 richest men on earth. And he left everything in a 789 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,090 trust fund operated out of Indonesia. So the American 790 00:51:24,090 --> 00:51:28,560 government can't touch it didn't make Barack Obama 1/3 791 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,730 beneficiary for the assets of one of the 1015 richest men on 792 00:51:32,730 --> 00:51:39,390 earth. So we got a game run on us. So you know, that little 793 00:51:39,390 --> 00:51:43,500 thing that bush W does when he gets with Michelle, THEY GIGGLE 794 00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:47,460 and he gives a candy. The inside thing is that supposed to be the 795 00:51:47,460 --> 00:51:50,520 same kind of candy he used to give to her husband when he was 796 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,020 678 years old. 797 00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:57,930 Ah, wow, that's so creepy. I hadn't heard that one. I liked 798 00:51:57,930 --> 00:52:01,140 that. Yeah, they're always buddy buddy. But that's so terrorist. 799 00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:08,340 Pateros so e t o r o they were they were they were all in the 800 00:52:08,340 --> 00:52:12,330 oil business with the bushes. Same same criminal enterprise. 801 00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:19,710 Yeah, cuz you got the best patto old killer rabbit hole. It's YES 802 00:52:19,710 --> 00:52:22,380 to go down if you start following that trail, because 803 00:52:22,380 --> 00:52:27,090 this ties into many historical events, one being in Dallas, but 804 00:52:27,090 --> 00:52:27,930 I'll leave it at that. 805 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,710 All right. Now he can't run. But you know, George H. Walker Bush. 806 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,180 Remember where he was on the day JFK was assassinated. He's the 807 00:52:36,180 --> 00:52:37,020 only guy 808 00:52:37,020 --> 00:52:37,500 just the 809 00:52:37,530 --> 00:52:38,670 only guy who can't 810 00:52:38,850 --> 00:52:45,840 remember why was it? And I will say this is just a point. George 811 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:52,410 Bush Senior, let's just call him that. Probably ran this country 812 00:52:52,410 --> 00:52:59,550 from, in my opinion, from 1980. Onward. And to Trump got his 813 00:52:59,550 --> 00:53:07,500 office. I truly believe that to be so he, I mean, you think they 814 00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:13,590 say um, Reagan's mental capacity was diminishing, even when he 815 00:53:13,590 --> 00:53:17,730 was in office, who was his vice president, George Bush. And then 816 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,600 you hear the stories of Clinton and Bush in action and they 817 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:29,100 hold the whole Iran Contra MENA Arkansas. Boy was a soldier in 818 00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:29,820 the empire. 819 00:53:30,570 --> 00:53:33,630 Right? So you really didn't have a choice. If you think about it, 820 00:53:33,630 --> 00:53:37,530 you really didn't have a choice. Because if Clinton is Bush's 821 00:53:37,530 --> 00:53:41,550 guy, and they're running against each other, either way, it's 822 00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:47,220 gonna be ran by Bush. And then Bush runs his son against 823 00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:50,280 Clinton's vice president. Yep. And they kind of just called it 824 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,510 like, now Bush won. 825 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,530 Pretty well get the hanging chads the supreme court called 826 00:53:55,530 --> 00:53:56,940 it right. 827 00:53:57,420 --> 00:54:05,280 Well, who cares? I am. Anyway, um, and they following that you 828 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,420 have Obama come in which Obama has clear ties to George Bush 829 00:54:09,420 --> 00:54:13,530 Senior. So we and if you notice how long this flag stayed at 830 00:54:13,530 --> 00:54:19,440 half staff headlamps, you know? Yes. How much cool. George Bush 831 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,130 Senior hat in this country? Oh, yeah. Massive. So I just want to 832 00:54:23,130 --> 00:54:27,720 say that because it's that's critical to what power structure 833 00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:30,960 Barack Obama really came from. Also, it makes 834 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:35,220 it very understandable why my longtime CIA uncle had no 835 00:54:35,220 --> 00:54:38,160 problem voting for Barack Obama, the same company, same 836 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,030 organization. 837 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,590 And that go even further that goes to show you why the 838 00:54:43,590 --> 00:54:47,340 intelligence agencies really has won on for Donald Trump. 839 00:54:47,790 --> 00:54:51,090 You know, there's really no bigger man who's a conspiracy 840 00:54:51,090 --> 00:54:55,890 theorist than a black man who's a conspiracy theorists. This is 841 00:54:55,890 --> 00:54:58,650 this is cultural tell me it ain't true. Moses is cultural 842 00:54:58,650 --> 00:55:02,670 because there's so many ain't going to go back to to vote for 843 00:55:02,670 --> 00:55:06,540 me Claudette Colvin and there's so many of these, which would be 844 00:55:06,570 --> 00:55:09,870 if I said that now and publicly blue like, amen. It's we're 845 00:55:09,870 --> 00:55:12,270 always uses conspiracy theory and nut job 846 00:55:13,170 --> 00:55:17,790 because we always knew black ink existed and it's like, okay who 847 00:55:17,790 --> 00:55:22,590 employs and empowers black ink? Yep. So it's like so you have to 848 00:55:22,590 --> 00:55:27,120 question everything, everything calms down because like, What 849 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,120 What's your motive? What? Why are you trying to steer me? How 850 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:30,900 are you trying to handle 851 00:55:30,930 --> 00:55:34,860 this? And this is this is why we we clicked so well, when we 852 00:55:34,860 --> 00:55:38,100 first started talking, you know, it's like I think like that all 853 00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:40,530 the time. That's I just conditioned myself. That's what 854 00:55:40,530 --> 00:55:45,780 I do. But I didn't grow up necessarily having to do that or 855 00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:48,690 thinking that, but that's why we connect. I love it. 856 00:55:49,410 --> 00:55:53,400 Yeah. And that's how I had to grow up because like, everybody 857 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,320 smiles in your face as your friend you get that kind of 858 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,920 thing not to be distrusting of people, but you also and this is 859 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,740 why I said Barack Obama dropping out of the sky. 860 00:56:01,830 --> 00:56:04,890 Yeah, that's like flag that's a red flag right there. 861 00:56:05,339 --> 00:56:09,779 That goes totally against it. Just say if we had a community. 862 00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:14,669 Oh, you want to know who's passing through your town? Your 863 00:56:14,699 --> 00:56:17,369 you know your neighborhood? Who's the winner? Who's he 864 00:56:17,369 --> 00:56:21,959 connected with? Just say that, like his family. 865 00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:26,040 Got Married? Because his grandma. 866 00:56:26,340 --> 00:56:29,640 Oh, he's Yeah, he's like, Oh, he's so so Hamlet's. Oh, no, 867 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:36,180 that was Hamilton's. So for not him for him not to be vouched 868 00:56:36,180 --> 00:56:37,500 for, and you showed up 869 00:56:37,529 --> 00:56:39,509 and basically vetted, he wasn't vetted 870 00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:47,160 at all right at all. But in hindsight, we had to start doing 871 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,690 some digging. And that's what Joe Joe Joe Brown is doing, and 872 00:56:51,690 --> 00:56:55,200 will continue to do. But I will say this. Now, Joe, Joe Brown is 873 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,280 a huge proponent of black masculinity and black men. So if 874 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,000 it was no fire there, he wouldn't say anything about the 875 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:09,240 smoke. Right. So obviously, he has access to information that 876 00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:12,930 emboldened him to come out and say these things, knowing he 877 00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:17,430 could be, you know, removed, right. If if they're not true, 878 00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:18,540 right, so I'm just wondering, 879 00:57:19,470 --> 00:57:22,530 the lack of visibility. Yeah, the lack of pushback on him on 880 00:57:22,530 --> 00:57:26,010 that kind of shows that people like, quiet. 881 00:57:26,430 --> 00:57:31,170 Yeah, shut up. Shut up. Yeah, well, we won't shut up Joe. 882 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,660 We're gonna let Joe get to you and clip three. 883 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:40,260 Barak grandmother has been acknowledged as being the woman 884 00:57:40,260 --> 00:57:45,660 that operated the channels through which CIA money went to 885 00:57:45,660 --> 00:57:49,530 the Southwest Pacific. So she introduced her daughter, who had 886 00:57:49,530 --> 00:57:57,180 just had Berry, Barack to Lolo Soetoro, and they got married 887 00:57:57,180 --> 00:58:02,160 and Lolo Soetoro adopted Barack Obama, the name was changed to 888 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,850 Barry Soetoro. Now when he went to high school and a why he I 889 00:58:05,850 --> 00:58:09,330 know about that high school almost sent Well, my oldest son 890 00:58:09,330 --> 00:58:11,670 to it, I could afford it, but I didn't think he observed 891 00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:17,220 deserved it. When a years ago the tuition was $95,000 a year 892 00:58:17,220 --> 00:58:20,580 not including room and board. When Obama went there. I've 893 00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:23,940 talked to two of his classmates they independently state that 894 00:58:23,940 --> 00:58:28,650 the tuition not including room and board was 45,000. Now 895 00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:33,510 Business Insider reports his income for 2017 at over 200 896 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:38,640 million net that's after taxes deductions write offs. For this 897 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:45,900 last year 2018 They reported it as 570 plus million dollars in s 898 00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:49,530 after all deductions tax write Trump doesn't make that Miss. 899 00:58:51,690 --> 00:59:00,930 Big Bank Barry. Nice. Damn. So people say Well, Joe, saw you 900 00:59:00,930 --> 00:59:04,560 got an axe to grind. There's other people that were sound 901 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,220 nice alarms, and this is from the other side of the political 902 00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:14,820 sphere. And this is caaci age of four stages of completion. 903 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,110 I know they released a report as claimed that the 44th President 904 00:59:19,110 --> 00:59:22,920 of the United States is a CIA creation. American investigative 905 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,130 journalist Wayne Matson says Barack Obama as well as his 906 00:59:26,130 --> 00:59:29,850 family, including his parents, stepfather and grandmother had 907 00:59:29,850 --> 00:59:31,410 connections with this CIA. 908 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,440 America tonight, if you feel the same energy that I do, 909 00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:39,390 if you feel the same urgency that 910 00:59:39,450 --> 00:59:42,480 exceptional already promised for the disillusion and change from 911 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,780 the status quo, these are all what helped Barack Obama to 912 00:59:45,780 --> 00:59:48,900 become president two years ago, but now the reality seems to be 913 00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:51,720 something far from that. And what is being called a bombshell 914 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,840 investigative journalist Wayne Madsen has revealed in a report 915 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,050 that in 1983, President Obama worked for the Business 916 00:59:58,050 --> 01:00:02,040 International Corporation which was a CIA front. That company 917 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,410 used to conduct seminars with the world's most powerful 918 01:00:04,410 --> 01:00:08,880 leaders as agents abroad with CIA espionage activities. Madson 919 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,370 says this intelligence connection runs in Obama's 920 01:00:11,370 --> 01:00:14,820 family, Obama's maternal grandmother, Madelyn Dunham was 921 01:00:14,820 --> 01:00:17,700 one of the first female vice presidents of the Bank of Hawaii 922 01:00:17,700 --> 01:00:22,260 in Honolulu. The report says this bank was also a CIA friend 923 01:00:22,260 --> 01:00:25,620 for funneling money to oppressive dictators and rulers, 924 01:00:25,830 --> 01:00:28,920 such as former Indonesian President Suharto, who came into 925 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,350 power through a CIA backed coup. 926 01:00:33,210 --> 01:00:37,410 You know, having grown up in the Netherlands, I know a lot about 927 01:00:37,410 --> 01:00:41,520 the Indonesia story. Because it was a Dutch colony. 928 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:51,240 Okay. And yes, there's a lot there. Yeah, there is. And I 929 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,840 will say this, a lot of the topics I really don't dive into 930 01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:59,040 about him or around him, because they're, they're non starters. I 931 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,780 mean, you have half the people that are going to believe 932 01:01:00,780 --> 01:01:03,240 whatever they believe in the other half is going to be 933 01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:06,540 opposed to that. So I mean, like semester, I didn't really get 934 01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:10,320 into, but the things that you can prove his worth, and it 935 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,370 makes sense. Yeah. And how protective the intelligence 936 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:20,460 agencies were up him. It just kind of explains itself. I mean, 937 01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:27,120 Operation Mockingbird media supporting him Hello. It's quite 938 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:33,180 clear what's going on here. But I'm laying this out to say, 939 01:01:33,180 --> 01:01:37,470 Okay, if we look at this, say this is true, which I believe I 940 01:01:37,470 --> 01:01:40,080 wouldn't be presenting if I didn't think it was some truth 941 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,490 to it. Then we have to look at him totally different and how he 942 01:01:44,490 --> 01:01:48,330 was presented to us as that way because we talked about 943 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:54,630 infiltration, and all of the black established groups or 944 01:01:55,140 --> 01:01:58,650 groups that were established those so called, representing 945 01:01:58,650 --> 01:02:03,000 black people. So he's like a one man entity, right? He's a one 946 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:08,040 man organization, but he just he was so polarizing that he drew 947 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,880 people around him. And it's like, now he has this huge 948 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:18,210 protector it huge protect realm of protection around him that he 949 01:02:18,210 --> 01:02:22,170 was bulletproof. Yes. And they use him to push any agenda that 950 01:02:22,170 --> 01:02:25,290 they want it to. Yes. Without any question. 951 01:02:25,470 --> 01:02:31,140 And I think David Axelrod had a big role in this. That was his 952 01:02:31,170 --> 01:02:35,130 one of his campaign managers. Yep. Dan Durbin? Yes. Dick 953 01:02:35,130 --> 01:02:39,450 Durbin. And also John Brennan. I mean, John Brennan was, you 954 01:02:39,450 --> 01:02:43,320 know, he was kind of Obama's shadow guy, you know, always 955 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:44,730 from very early on. 956 01:02:45,750 --> 01:02:51,210 Yeah. And he's the one and Dick Durbin is the one that told by 957 01:02:51,210 --> 01:02:53,880 his admission, I didn't want to bloat the clip list too much, 958 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,270 but just for this one little factoid, but he tells a story of 959 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,560 Yeah, I told Barry at those speech that he gave, you're 960 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,500 gonna run for president or you need to run for president. It's 961 01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:08,940 like he was like, told, and we started to hear how his path was 962 01:03:08,940 --> 01:03:14,550 laid out for him going to this certain district, and, you know, 963 01:03:15,030 --> 01:03:18,690 it's just like it was everything was laid out. It was for him to 964 01:03:18,690 --> 01:03:20,250 be where he was at when he was there. 965 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,240 That path was paved, and people got pushed out of the way quite 966 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,320 harshly here and there. 967 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:33,780 Yes, and I have the stories I support. But let's wrap up with 968 01:03:33,780 --> 01:03:38,280 the CIA narrative with the second goal 1500 9660s, 969 01:03:38,430 --> 01:03:41,610 Obama's father had been selected by the leader of Kenyan African 970 01:03:41,730 --> 01:03:45,540 national union, Tom Boyer, to receive scholarship and be 971 01:03:45,540 --> 01:03:49,560 airlifted to the University of Hawaii. CIA files indicate that 972 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,310 and boy was an important agent of influence for the agency. The 973 01:03:53,310 --> 01:03:57,240 airlift was a CIA operation to train future agents of influence 974 01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,750 in Africa, which was a battleground between the US, the 975 01:04:00,750 --> 01:04:04,680 Soviet Union and China for influence. As a Kenyan citizen 976 01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:08,130 in the University of Hawaii. Obama's father who was already 977 01:04:08,130 --> 01:04:12,210 married, and had a child with another on the way and Kenya met 978 01:04:12,210 --> 01:04:16,080 Obama's mother and Dunham in a Russian class in Hawaii. This 979 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:20,490 meeting eventually led to their marriage. Barack Obama's mother 980 01:04:20,490 --> 01:04:24,900 Dunham was divorced when his son was four. She married Lolo 981 01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:28,050 Soetoro, after meeting him at the East West Center at the 982 01:04:28,050 --> 01:04:31,830 University of Hawaii, the center affiliated with CIA activities 983 01:04:31,830 --> 01:04:34,590 in the Asia Pacific region, but we worked for Tim Geithner's 984 01:04:34,590 --> 01:04:37,650 father, Peter at the Ford Foundation with a better widely 985 01:04:37,650 --> 01:04:40,410 believed to be a CIA front and our grandpa Matson is 986 01:04:40,410 --> 01:04:43,170 questioning that if Barack Obama, as I suspected was 987 01:04:43,170 --> 01:04:46,530 subjected to the CIA project, either by brainwashing or being 988 01:04:46,530 --> 01:04:49,560 part of it people it'll become problematic for an American 989 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,040 president. He says if Obama has been brainwashed, then he can be 990 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,190 controlled. And if he was simply part of this project, then he 991 01:04:56,190 --> 01:04:56,910 can be bribed. 992 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,030 I like hearing Tim Geithner in there who later returned as 993 01:05:03,180 --> 01:05:05,670 Secretary of the Treasury, I believe. 994 01:05:05,730 --> 01:05:09,360 Yes, there were childhood friends. Now that just works. 995 01:05:09,570 --> 01:05:12,150 What are the chances? What's the chances that 996 01:05:14,820 --> 01:05:18,360 Tim Geithner could not be more white bread? I mean, that's a 997 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,940 total dweeby douche. So he was out there so 998 01:05:21,420 --> 01:05:25,500 interesting. There's two points that were made here. Um, one 999 01:05:26,490 --> 01:05:33,450 there was his parents met in a Russian class. Yeah. Kenyan. Why 1000 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,640 always can you go to Hawaii? 1001 01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:37,410 I think Russian 1002 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:43,920 why would they study in Russian for hmm, could that you know, 1003 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,700 could that have some Marxist slash communist undertones with 1004 01:05:47,700 --> 01:05:53,100 it? Very possible his his mother be a honeypot? You know, that 1005 01:05:53,130 --> 01:05:57,540 was put into those classes to see who she could net and you 1006 01:05:57,540 --> 01:05:59,850 know, you have to ask these questions when you know how 1007 01:05:59,850 --> 01:06:01,080 these organizations work. 1008 01:06:01,140 --> 01:06:04,230 Well also, the East West exchange I'm just looking 1009 01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:09,720 through some old CIA documents was an exchange program between 1010 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:16,800 the United States and the USSR so that that makes sense why she 1011 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:22,410 would be in a Russian class. Right and at the East West 1012 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,290 exchange the East West Center in Hawaii 1013 01:06:26,310 --> 01:06:29,880 Yes. With this key figure from Kenya, 1014 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,570 y'all yeah it's fantastic it all fits I just part I didn't know 1015 01:06:33,570 --> 01:06:35,670 this is good like the East West Center stuff that's good. 1016 01:06:36,270 --> 01:06:38,520 I'll see homeland I know how it works yeah. 1017 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,530 Really quite accurate surprisingly accurate Yes. 1018 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:53,490 Anything to get the job done so you have Mr. Brock Obama Sr. Oh, 1019 01:06:53,490 --> 01:06:57,690 one more thing that Ford Foundation which that comes up 1020 01:06:57,690 --> 01:07:04,440 several times as some kind of CI connected organization or 1021 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,730 entity. So 1022 01:07:07,110 --> 01:07:10,740 as a as an aside the fort I was just doing some research today 1023 01:07:10,770 --> 01:07:16,230 on Garza and what's her name? Rometty the other two Black 1024 01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:16,710 Lives Matter 1025 01:07:16,710 --> 01:07:18,870 co founder Matey and colors, 1026 01:07:19,050 --> 01:07:22,080 not colors, colors. I'm done with colors colors is the 1027 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,430 magnet. Yeah, but I went further into Garza cars. I think it is 1028 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,540 LSU, Michigan, heavy, heavy funding from the Ford Foundation 1029 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,990 in a whole bunch of different nonprofits and we're talking 1030 01:07:36,990 --> 01:07:43,020 millions. Really, really? Yes. You get me started Mo and I just 1031 01:07:43,020 --> 01:07:45,450 go off and do my own homework just for myself. I mean, that's 1032 01:07:45,540 --> 01:07:47,970 instead of watching TV, I'm like, Oh, let me investigate 1033 01:07:47,970 --> 01:07:48,330 this. 1034 01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:53,250 Now you see what I know. You got you got rabbit fever. 1035 01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:55,980 I know. I know. I know the fever I know it. 1036 01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:02,910 So Brock Obama senior this mysterious character this kind 1037 01:08:02,910 --> 01:08:08,490 of used in paint it to however way they want to paint them. 1038 01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:13,950 They wrote this interesting book on him. I think this is doing 1039 01:08:13,950 --> 01:08:18,270 the SEC during the first term. But that gives some background 1040 01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:21,720 that where there was none on Barack Obama, Barack Obama 1041 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:26,130 senior and This is CNN the other Brock Obama. 1042 01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:30,810 He was part of Africa's independence generation and a 1043 01:08:30,810 --> 01:08:33,690 brilliant economist and he was also a polygamist and an 1044 01:08:33,690 --> 01:08:36,930 alcoholic who ended up becoming the father of an American 1045 01:08:36,930 --> 01:08:40,800 President Barack Obama senior has been somewhat of a mystery 1046 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,760 to most even to his own son, President Obama, but biographer 1047 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,670 Sally Jacobs did the research and discovered unbelievable 1048 01:08:47,670 --> 01:08:51,390 information about a man who lived a rather complicated life 1049 01:08:51,390 --> 01:08:54,600 here to discuss her book. The other Baroque the bold and 1050 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,890 reckless life of President Obama's father is Sally Jacobs. 1051 01:08:58,890 --> 01:09:02,190 Sally, thanks for coming on the show. First question to you what 1052 01:09:02,190 --> 01:09:05,970 inspired you to look into the life of Barack Obama senior. 1053 01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:11,850 But clearly, there was not a great deal known about him. As 1054 01:09:11,850 --> 01:09:14,520 the campaign went on, it seemed that this was a person that we 1055 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,490 needed to know more about. There was a fair amount of information 1056 01:09:17,490 --> 01:09:19,620 out there public about the President wouldn't be 1057 01:09:19,620 --> 01:09:22,860 president's mother, but the father was an unclear figure. 1058 01:09:25,650 --> 01:09:30,540 Okay, so I'm looking at this author, by the way, I want to 1059 01:09:30,540 --> 01:09:30,840 see what 1060 01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:34,350 Yes, please do because that sounds like a spook Sally. 1061 01:09:34,710 --> 01:09:38,040 Sally does sound like she's in the basement. They're tapping up 1062 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,280 some books for for the agency. Okay. 1063 01:09:42,690 --> 01:09:46,050 But the disdain they have for Mr. Brock Obama senior is going 1064 01:09:46,050 --> 01:09:48,810 to be even he's an alcoholic and appalling, right. 1065 01:09:50,130 --> 01:09:53,100 She basically read the Amazon review, I just looked at it. 1066 01:09:53,940 --> 01:09:54,750 That's exactly what 1067 01:09:55,980 --> 01:09:59,490 I want to ask this question. And in this, you're going to see how 1068 01:09:59,490 --> 01:10:04,950 much this vein this is this is what you will call Karen's to 1069 01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:08,400 Karen's I hate to use that term but it gets kind of fitting 1070 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:13,380 here. Watch how they tear down Brock Obama senior Oh firstly in 1071 01:10:13,380 --> 01:10:15,900 and off what he's a polygamist and an alcoholic right 1072 01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:16,590 right 1073 01:10:19,650 --> 01:10:22,140 this is a question I always had what is the difference when are 1074 01:10:22,140 --> 01:10:27,780 polygamous and semi in a poly Emery polyamorous polyamorous 1075 01:10:28,770 --> 01:10:31,860 relationship and why is one acceptable than the other but 1076 01:10:32,580 --> 01:10:35,490 I'm just gonna put that out there what they notice if you 1077 01:10:35,490 --> 01:10:38,460 could spin this if he was a favorable character, they could 1078 01:10:38,460 --> 01:10:42,510 say oh he was in how you say that word again poly 1079 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:47,670 polyamorous, polyamory polyamorous? They will say this 1080 01:10:47,670 --> 01:10:50,430 they will say he was in a polyamorous relationship as 1081 01:10:50,460 --> 01:10:56,430 often struggle with battled with a controlled substance abuse. 1082 01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:02,160 Right? You see other media paints name that is 1083 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,110 so good. I'm just looking up just looking at some terms here. 1084 01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:13,080 So polyamory many several and more love practice of or desire 1085 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,020 for intimate relationships with more than one partner. Okay, now 1086 01:11:16,020 --> 01:11:21,360 let's look up polygamy. Just make sure we see the practice 1087 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,390 customer having more than Oh, that's really the marriage part. 1088 01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:25,770 Okay, so it's 1089 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:31,230 they have marriage they have polyamorous now with polyamorous 1090 01:11:31,230 --> 01:11:34,320 marriages. Sure. And I mean, this is I guess I know I'm going 1091 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,120 off here. But I'm just want to address these things that we 1092 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:41,250 come across them that is centered with the man is wrong. 1093 01:11:42,150 --> 01:11:46,290 When a woman says she wants to husband, okay, it's always 1094 01:11:48,150 --> 01:11:49,500 always a winner. 1095 01:11:50,339 --> 01:11:53,339 I just don't think he's very accepting of them to catch this 1096 01:11:53,339 --> 01:11:54,149 man in this way. 1097 01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:57,330 Yes, they should check their damn privileges what they should 1098 01:11:57,330 --> 01:11:57,930 do. Right. They 1099 01:11:57,930 --> 01:12:00,990 should really check really shoes. Yeah, definitely. Well, 1100 01:12:01,380 --> 01:12:03,600 let's continue on what I'm bashing Brock. 1101 01:12:04,350 --> 01:12:07,710 You mentioned in your book that there was a chance that actually 1102 01:12:07,710 --> 01:12:11,010 some evidence that that he actually wanted to put his son 1103 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,610 now President Obama up for adoption? What can you tell us 1104 01:12:14,610 --> 01:12:15,120 about that? 1105 01:12:16,890 --> 01:12:19,950 What I found is it's in his immigration document. There is a 1106 01:12:19,950 --> 01:12:24,420 memo in which Obama senior tells the foreign student advisor at 1107 01:12:24,420 --> 01:12:27,690 the University of Hawaii where he was enrolled, that his wife 1108 01:12:27,690 --> 01:12:30,840 and Dunham was making arrangements with the Salvation 1109 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,350 Army to put their baby up for adoption. The baby was unborn at 1110 01:12:34,350 --> 01:12:39,270 the time. Did they actually do that? It's unclear. And Dunham 1111 01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:42,780 had every reason to do it. She was 18 years old. She was having 1112 01:12:42,780 --> 01:12:47,100 a mixed race baby at a time that intermarriage was very rare. On 1113 01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:49,050 the other hand, it didn't seem to be the kind of thing she 1114 01:12:49,050 --> 01:12:52,290 would do. She took her responsibility seriously. Obama 1115 01:12:52,290 --> 01:12:55,350 senior had every reason to put the baby up for adoption. At the 1116 01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:59,490 time he was renewing his visa or hoping to if immigration 1117 01:12:59,490 --> 01:13:02,280 officials saw him as a polygamist with a mixed race 1118 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,430 baby, that might not have been the best profile to put forward 1119 01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:05,580 and 1120 01:13:05,790 --> 01:13:08,730 he had family members have said that they they don't believe 1121 01:13:08,730 --> 01:13:11,310 there was ever any evidence or any thoughts about putting 1122 01:13:11,370 --> 01:13:14,910 Barack Obama up for adoption. But do you believe that they 1123 01:13:14,910 --> 01:13:17,280 were actually considering it, given the the evidence that 1124 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:17,730 you've seen? 1125 01:13:19,260 --> 01:13:23,220 I think it's more likely that Obama senior told them that to 1126 01:13:23,220 --> 01:13:25,560 make them think that the baby was going to vanish. It gave a 1127 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,980 cleaner profile for him to immigration officials. The only 1128 01:13:28,980 --> 01:13:31,980 thing I do wonder about is that he said the Salvation Army. The 1129 01:13:31,980 --> 01:13:35,280 Salvation Army did have a maternity home in Honolulu. It's 1130 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,710 interesting to me that he mentioned that. Maybe they 1131 01:13:37,710 --> 01:13:40,470 talked about it. I didn't go ahead with it. I don't think 1132 01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:42,030 they made arrangements to actually do it. 1133 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:50,760 You see how they gave the mom a pass? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's pay 1134 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,810 attention to their white man black. 1135 01:13:55,620 --> 01:14:01,470 Wow. By the way, this is Sally H. Jacobs is the only book she 1136 01:14:01,470 --> 01:14:04,560 ever wrote. Sally is the only book she's written any other 1137 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:05,100 books. 1138 01:14:06,030 --> 01:14:11,730 Interesting. But she's a touted reporter. This smacks of a hit 1139 01:14:11,730 --> 01:14:18,000 piece and is he's not like his father. And to elicit I know 1140 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,490 people like man while you're kind of reaching this, that 1141 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,650 you're gonna hurt yourself. You're, you're reaching out, 1142 01:14:22,650 --> 01:14:25,770 you're reaching, reaching right up in my field here. I'm loving 1143 01:14:25,770 --> 01:14:26,430 the reach. 1144 01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:30,540 Well, listen to this next clip. Part Three. 1145 01:14:30,930 --> 01:14:36,810 He speaks so sweetly about his mother. Do you think if he was 1146 01:14:36,810 --> 01:14:39,570 raised by his father, he would be president today. 1147 01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:44,340 You know, this was certainly speculative myself. I think it 1148 01:14:44,340 --> 01:14:48,510 would be unlikely Obama Jr. was a very brilliant and brave 1149 01:14:48,510 --> 01:14:51,780 person. In some respects. He was extremely self destructive also. 1150 01:14:52,770 --> 01:14:55,560 I think he wasn't a very nurturing person and was rather 1151 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,620 self absorbed. I think Obama Jr. Might have chosen a very 1152 01:14:58,620 --> 01:15:01,080 different life would be A different person in many 1153 01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,440 respects if he'd grown up with that kind of a paternal figure. 1154 01:15:04,770 --> 01:15:11,310 Oh geez Did you hear that? Oh yeah. Excuse me. Dad raised 1155 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,330 please check your female privilege their holy crap. Oh, 1156 01:15:15,330 --> 01:15:15,840 man. 1157 01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:20,070 That's a hell of a question. This is a dad raised him doom 1158 01:15:20,130 --> 01:15:25,290 that you would think he would have been POTUS? No, no, no, no 1159 01:15:25,290 --> 01:15:28,860 it's even though his dad came from Kenya to come all the way 1160 01:15:28,860 --> 01:15:33,210 to Harvard. By way of Hawaii he was saying basically pulled 1161 01:15:33,210 --> 01:15:35,490 himself up by his bootstraps. I mean, that's the way the story 1162 01:15:35,490 --> 01:15:38,280 is written. Nah, Heaton. Ah. 1163 01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:41,400 So this must have been Stanley's business. 1164 01:15:42,510 --> 01:15:47,700 Stanley Stanley, and he years he's he writes lovely, Stanley. 1165 01:15:47,940 --> 01:15:52,590 Um, so but that not so much. I guess let's just go ahead and 1166 01:15:52,590 --> 01:15:56,460 let that go and finish them off. Let's let's finish bashing 1167 01:15:56,460 --> 01:15:56,850 Brock. 1168 01:15:57,269 --> 01:16:01,949 anything positive? Anything redeeming about senior? 1169 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,990 Absolutely. For starters, he was hugely successful in one sense. 1170 01:16:07,140 --> 01:16:10,590 He made it from a very poor, simple childhood in Western 1171 01:16:10,590 --> 01:16:13,110 Africa, to Harvard, you know, he was really a brilliant 1172 01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:17,070 economist. Also, his story was deeply entwined with that of 1173 01:16:17,070 --> 01:16:21,600 Kenya of the moment. He was a fierce advocate for the African 1174 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,570 people. He was not happy with the way the government was 1175 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,240 going. And he spoke out very boldly against the 1176 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,630 administration of Jomo Kenyatta. He did not feel that the little 1177 01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:34,080 man was getting his fair do. And Obama senior was very courageous 1178 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,690 about that, at some personal risk. 1179 01:16:36,780 --> 01:16:39,690 And just very quickly, what do you think President Obama will 1180 01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:42,240 think of this book of yours about his father? 1181 01:16:44,940 --> 01:16:47,730 I think you'll find a lot that he didn't know in it. I cannot 1182 01:16:47,730 --> 01:16:50,460 imagine it would be a very easy book to read. But I think any 1183 01:16:50,460 --> 01:16:53,070 child who doesn't know their parent might want to know the 1184 01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:54,840 true story about him. That's my hope. 1185 01:16:55,019 --> 01:17:00,149 Wow. Wow, that what a great move. What a great move. Don't 1186 01:17:00,149 --> 01:17:01,919 look over here. This is a dead end. 1187 01:17:02,820 --> 01:17:06,600 Amy redeemable qualities. That's what she said about? Well, he 1188 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:07,620 was a brilliant 1189 01:17:07,650 --> 01:17:10,860 economist. I will they keep reminding us really. He was 1190 01:17:10,860 --> 01:17:15,120 truly a brilliant economist. But obviously, you know, he was so 1191 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,090 brilliant that he was just a total loser and a failure. 1192 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,050 He was a rabble rouser. So that's always good. If you want 1193 01:17:22,050 --> 01:17:27,150 to stir up trouble in Kenya, so they're all for that. But then 1194 01:17:27,150 --> 01:17:31,320 she says, Will he? You know, what would you think? What would 1195 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,320 Barack Obama think about the book about his father? And she 1196 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,050 said, I think he'll find a lot of surprises, which that 1197 01:17:37,050 --> 01:17:41,760 surprised me because of the way the narrative went. Brock Obama 1198 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:45,720 wrote a tell all books Yeah. Yeah. The dreams from my 1199 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,240 father's I would think he would have more information than 1200 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,300 Sally. Unless Sally has some resources 1201 01:17:52,620 --> 01:17:55,710 and resources that we are not aware of. All right, 1202 01:17:56,250 --> 01:18:00,060 brought know how to file says she does, according to the court 1203 01:18:00,060 --> 01:18:04,800 and hurt. Speaking of that book, we have a Baroque reading from 1204 01:18:05,070 --> 01:18:07,830 the dreams of my excuse me Dreams from My Father. 1205 01:18:08,220 --> 01:18:12,690 There was only one problem my father was missing. And nothing 1206 01:18:12,690 --> 01:18:15,690 that my mother or grandparents could tell me could obviate that 1207 01:18:15,690 --> 01:18:19,470 single unassailable fact. Their stories didn't tell me why he 1208 01:18:19,470 --> 01:18:22,590 had left. They couldn't describe what it might have been like had 1209 01:18:22,590 --> 01:18:26,760 he stayed like the janitor Mr. Reed, or the black girl who 1210 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,960 turned up dust as she raced down a Texas road. My father became a 1211 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:35,580 prop in someone else's narrative. Attractive Papa, the 1212 01:18:35,580 --> 01:18:39,180 alien figure with the heart of gold. The mysterious stranger 1213 01:18:39,180 --> 01:18:43,260 who saves the town and wins the girl but a prop nonetheless. 1214 01:18:43,470 --> 01:18:49,020 Wow, some honesty there. What a prop nonetheless. Wow. Wow, 1215 01:18:49,020 --> 01:18:54,720 that's brutally honest, really, brutally honest. In context, 1216 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:55,680 great to hear that. 1217 01:18:56,670 --> 01:19:01,350 So we hear we seen his dad get bashed. Now let's listen to in 1218 01:19:01,350 --> 01:19:04,530 comparison, how they lavish praise. And Dunham. 1219 01:19:05,010 --> 01:19:07,770 We are backing out to our occasional series of reports on 1220 01:19:07,770 --> 01:19:10,710 the presidential candidates families. Looking tonight at 1221 01:19:10,710 --> 01:19:13,590 Senator Barack Obama who's made his life story and his 1222 01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:16,500 upbringing a part of his campaign. He's written and 1223 01:19:16,500 --> 01:19:19,800 spoken openly about the mother who raised him the father who 1224 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,280 left him, both of whom of course left behind a big impression. 1225 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:27,180 NBCs Lee Cowen has our report tonight on family ties. 1226 01:19:28,440 --> 01:19:34,050 I have not had my parents now for over a neck. The beginning 1227 01:19:34,050 --> 01:19:37,950 of Barack Obama's improbable journey began with an improbable 1228 01:19:37,950 --> 01:19:41,580 union, an African man named Barack and a white Kansa named 1229 01:19:41,580 --> 01:19:45,270 Stanley and wed at the dawn of the 60s when interracial 1230 01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:48,660 marriages were still illegal in many places. He had lasted 1231 01:19:48,660 --> 01:19:52,320 though just three short years and their lives not much longer. 1232 01:19:52,740 --> 01:19:56,490 Obama's father was killed in a car accident in Africa in 1982. 1233 01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,930 His mother stricken with ovarian cancer, died in 19. 95 1234 01:20:01,020 --> 01:20:08,040 It would be wonderful to have the Council of parents, it would 1235 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:12,870 be wonderful to be able to admit mistakes. Or just get some 1236 01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:13,440 encouragement. 1237 01:20:13,650 --> 01:20:17,280 He said he has to rely on what they left him. And each left him 1238 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,580 something very different. Obama's father abandoned him at 1239 01:20:20,580 --> 01:20:24,000 age two, he left first for Harvard and eventually returned 1240 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,900 to his native Kenya. To this day, the elder Barak remains an 1241 01:20:27,900 --> 01:20:30,900 example for the younger, but of how not to live. 1242 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,860 While still bashing dad, that story was set man that's 1243 01:20:37,860 --> 01:20:41,460 beautiful that that that narrative was crafted creative 1244 01:20:41,490 --> 01:20:44,730 posted on on Wikipedia and good to go. 1245 01:20:45,390 --> 01:20:48,990 Now Adam asked me why that narrative was set that way, you 1246 01:20:48,990 --> 01:20:52,410 know more, I'd like to ask you why why did they put set the 1247 01:20:52,410 --> 01:20:53,460 narrative that way? 1248 01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:59,850 So he could identify as well, so black males could identify with 1249 01:20:59,850 --> 01:21:05,640 him not having a father. So single mothers could identify 1250 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:09,270 with him with his mother. And with him 1251 01:21:09,300 --> 01:21:13,380 makes makes him also know a little less scary. Yeah, 1252 01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:14,010 relatable. 1253 01:21:14,010 --> 01:21:18,420 And now he's gonna be he's a black man, but he was raised in 1254 01:21:18,420 --> 01:21:23,490 the corporate, white, white society. So the anger you don't 1255 01:21:23,490 --> 01:21:26,880 have to worry about He's alright. He's okay. And at the 1256 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,460 same time, they had to paint him as a poor black kid from 1257 01:21:29,460 --> 01:21:32,370 Chicago. That was this. The product? 1258 01:21:33,570 --> 01:21:36,750 Like the poor black kid from Chicago bid, that's the funniest 1259 01:21:36,750 --> 01:21:39,390 one. When I was on the south side. 1260 01:21:40,230 --> 01:21:43,590 Yeah, that's the that's the that's the, they tried to do it 1261 01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:45,720 with the same thing with Kemal Harris, right being from 1262 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:51,300 Oakland, and she's, like, not from Oakland, maybe we're not 1263 01:21:51,300 --> 01:21:54,300 the Oakland like you're using that term. So no, it's the same 1264 01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:55,290 thing. It's like 1265 01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:58,050 she's coming from the block in Oakland. 1266 01:21:59,220 --> 01:22:06,300 Right. So you see how they're setting this up? That is and and 1267 01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:09,900 is good and Brock is bad. And he's a single product of a 1268 01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:12,960 single parent home grew up on the south side of Chicago with a 1269 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,770 white mom. Yeah. I mean, this is the narrative if you ask people 1270 01:22:16,770 --> 01:22:20,430 that are not studied on Brock Obama that say oh, he's from 1271 01:22:20,430 --> 01:22:27,420 Chicago. Not Kansas. Not not these are the places why 1272 01:22:27,450 --> 01:22:28,140 roofspace 1273 01:22:28,950 --> 01:22:33,120 his roots are actually he's to be honest, if I if I'm looking 1274 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,270 at his roots coming in from his mom's side, he's part of the 1275 01:22:36,270 --> 01:22:43,170 either white supremacist Obama's got a lot or lots of rich royal 1276 01:22:43,170 --> 01:22:44,490 blood in the veins 1277 01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:52,380 in he's like 14 cousins with Dick Cheney. So obviously, okay. 1278 01:22:53,220 --> 01:22:58,260 Black child, but not from lineage of slavery mom named 1279 01:22:58,260 --> 01:23:02,070 Stanley, his name's Hussein, who's got a cousin is gonna be 1280 01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:07,260 vice president one day, and he's lucky enough to make precedent 1281 01:23:07,710 --> 01:23:09,840 that was, and you know, the Bush is 1282 01:23:10,710 --> 01:23:16,050 a great country or what Mo? Oh, man, look at what's possible. 1283 01:23:16,110 --> 01:23:17,340 It's crazy. 1284 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,820 I'm taking the under on that. I mean, as far as that happening. 1285 01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,620 So let's continue with the NBC. Nothing tradition. 1286 01:23:32,099 --> 01:23:36,599 I watch myself for some of the things that I know, ended up 1287 01:23:36,599 --> 01:23:42,779 hurting him. Too much pride, on inability to listen to other 1288 01:23:42,779 --> 01:23:45,929 people. Those are things that I guard against in myself. 1289 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,560 But in that fatherless void, stood his young mother, who 1290 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,500 remains more influential than anyone. Yeah. How, for example, 1291 01:23:52,500 --> 01:23:54,690 when Brian Williams showed him on the cover of Newsweek for the 1292 01:23:54,690 --> 01:23:57,720 very first time, your way senators reactions, was not 1293 01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:58,470 about himself, 1294 01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:02,490 you know, it makes me think of my mom. And in the fact that 1295 01:24:03,630 --> 01:24:04,560 she's not around. 1296 01:24:06,330 --> 01:24:09,690 Obama's half sister, Maya remembers that there was little 1297 01:24:09,690 --> 01:24:11,220 traditional about their mother. 1298 01:24:11,309 --> 01:24:15,059 I think it is interesting to look at the patterns how our 1299 01:24:15,059 --> 01:24:19,709 mother started in the Midwest, and ended up in Indonesia and 1300 01:24:19,709 --> 01:24:24,299 how he started in Hawaii in essence and, and returned to the 1301 01:24:24,299 --> 01:24:25,049 Midwest. 1302 01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:30,150 Remember that friend who knew Stanley and early see her in him 1303 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:35,640 all the time, the passion he brings? I think, a lot of that's 1304 01:24:36,180 --> 01:24:41,550 something he learned from his mother's knee. When he needed 1305 01:24:41,550 --> 01:24:42,120 the most, 1306 01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:45,810 when I was writing that speech on race, I'm the son of a black 1307 01:24:45,810 --> 01:24:50,280 man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. Her memory loomed 1308 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:54,180 over me as this is something that she would trust, 1309 01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:56,670 a reality check. He still sees 1310 01:24:57,059 --> 01:25:00,899 you know at night, if I'm saying a prayer night Send out maybe a 1311 01:25:01,739 --> 01:25:04,979 little message to my mother and hopefully she somewhere can 1312 01:25:04,979 --> 01:25:05,249 hear. 1313 01:25:05,940 --> 01:25:10,770 You know, of course, without without mo facts, I never would 1314 01:25:10,770 --> 01:25:13,710 have caught what was going on here. This was totally shaping 1315 01:25:13,710 --> 01:25:17,490 him to be completely relatable to the black man as well. I 1316 01:25:17,490 --> 01:25:24,240 mean, just by the parental situation and then totally 1317 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,330 pushing all of that towards how great his mom was. I mean, 1318 01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:33,300 solidifying the matriarchal structure is genius. 1319 01:25:34,620 --> 01:25:38,190 What always say about our community is the matriarchy, or 1320 01:25:38,190 --> 01:25:44,490 patriarchy. So yeah, to get to get black women to buy in. They 1321 01:25:44,490 --> 01:25:48,690 had to relate to this to them on a single parent level issue. 1322 01:25:48,690 --> 01:25:53,940 Sure. And we even heard on a previous show, Michelle Obama 1323 01:25:53,940 --> 01:25:56,310 refer to herself as a single mother. 1324 01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,940 That was one of my favorites. I mean, 1325 01:26:01,770 --> 01:26:07,380 they're pushing that narrative of single mothers single child 1326 01:26:07,380 --> 01:26:09,390 happened. How did you win again, Tarik 1327 01:26:09,630 --> 01:26:11,940 didn't have that clip. If you want to hear flow, to say it for 1328 01:26:11,940 --> 01:26:13,950 a second. Please, please, 1329 01:26:13,980 --> 01:26:18,630 looking at new models of getting farmers markets to, you know, 1330 01:26:18,660 --> 01:26:21,810 create buses and drive into communities that are 1331 01:26:21,810 --> 01:26:26,220 underserved. So we have to deal with the question of access. And 1332 01:26:26,430 --> 01:26:33,060 believe me as a busy single mother, single as a busy mother 1333 01:26:35,130 --> 01:26:38,880 Rupes. It's the narrative made no the narrative they're 1334 01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:39,990 pushing. Yeah, it's 1335 01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:43,110 in the back of her mind. And the truth just came up. Oh, crap was 1336 01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:45,090 used to say that exactly. 1337 01:26:46,290 --> 01:26:52,230 1000 video from the Ann Dunham so Cerezo Endowment Fund, and I 1338 01:26:52,260 --> 01:26:55,140 thought it'd be interesting just to hear a little little take on 1339 01:26:55,140 --> 01:26:55,440 that. 1340 01:26:56,010 --> 01:26:59,550 Our mother was a scholar, and she believed very much in 1341 01:26:59,550 --> 01:27:03,690 learning from books and she could spend hours in a library 1342 01:27:03,690 --> 01:27:07,650 but she also believed in learning from people who are 1343 01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:12,300 committed to honing their craft from people who walk in the 1344 01:27:12,300 --> 01:27:17,370 streets, and she felt like the whole world was a classroom. 1345 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,840 When Ann Dunham Soetoro applied for her PhD in anthropology at 1346 01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,530 the University of Hawaii at Manoa, she had already invested 1347 01:27:25,530 --> 01:27:29,220 significant time and energy to improve the quality of life for 1348 01:27:29,220 --> 01:27:31,410 craftspeople in rural Indonesia. 1349 01:27:32,220 --> 01:27:36,060 In the introduction to a dissertation is what I found a 1350 01:27:36,060 --> 01:27:39,450 very interesting statement. She said this work is the result of 1351 01:27:39,450 --> 01:27:44,160 14 years of research in Java. And it was perfectly true. She 1352 01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:45,870 knew that place inside out 1353 01:27:46,350 --> 01:27:49,800 and was driven by the desire to partner with others to create 1354 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:54,030 lasting change. While working at the Ford Foundation, States 1355 01:27:54,030 --> 01:27:57,120 Agency for International Development. She collaborated 1356 01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,330 closely with the range of nongovernmental organizations to 1357 01:28:00,330 --> 01:28:03,060 support programs addressing women and poverty. 1358 01:28:04,230 --> 01:28:08,940 US AI D is is the big tip off the Ford Foundation, of course, 1359 01:28:09,210 --> 01:28:15,300 but the USA ID is that is the United States. International aid 1360 01:28:15,300 --> 01:28:20,850 division. That's that's where we fund nongovernmental 1361 01:28:20,850 --> 01:28:24,270 organizations and countries from that, who were there of course, 1362 01:28:24,300 --> 01:28:27,840 sending back intelligence that is that's the fund. That's the 1363 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,010 one you want the money from. 1364 01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:34,860 And his mother reminds me a lot of her name slips my mind just 1365 01:28:34,860 --> 01:28:39,810 that fast. wrote for 16 magazine. Ah, what is her name? 1366 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:44,250 It'll come to me. Okay. I'm big, tall feminist in the 60s. 1367 01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:49,380 Oh, yes, of course. The CIA woman. 1368 01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:53,700 We both know her name was Anita Bryant. No, no, it 1369 01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:57,000 was the other one. It was Gloria Steinem. 1370 01:28:57,690 --> 01:29:02,520 That's it. Yes. His mom gives me the Gloria Steinem, Bob. 1371 01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,820 Oh, yeah, I can see that. 1372 01:29:06,990 --> 01:29:09,780 The I came to her and like, can you write for her? Oh, yeah. No. 1373 01:29:09,780 --> 01:29:15,840 Gloria Steinem was the age makes sense. Right, a good ghost. 1374 01:29:15,870 --> 01:29:18,870 Gloria Steinem. Absolutely known she was a CIA agent. She admits 1375 01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:22,260 it. Were agent. Yeah, she would operate if she did stuff for 1376 01:29:22,260 --> 01:29:22,470 them. 1377 01:29:22,500 --> 01:29:26,820 Yeah. So we're fast forwarded from his childhood. And when we 1378 01:29:26,820 --> 01:29:31,110 know about we went through how he was raised by an Indonesian, 1379 01:29:31,110 --> 01:29:35,640 Kansas. And we fast forward to him going to college. And at 1380 01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:39,690 Harvard, we have an eyewitness account from Dr. Randy short, 1381 01:29:39,780 --> 01:29:43,320 which we played some clips from him before. And I like to call 1382 01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:48,090 him Dr. Messi. Because he always, always given us more 1383 01:29:48,540 --> 01:29:52,620 even further than what you expect from him with his 1384 01:29:52,740 --> 01:29:55,470 shocking insight on Obama at Harvard, 1385 01:29:56,010 --> 01:29:57,930 but I think he was placed here. 1386 01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,360 I don't think we I don't think we elected him. I think 1387 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:01,680 selected. 1388 01:30:03,270 --> 01:30:09,210 And I saw him being selected 29 years ago, walking through the 1389 01:30:09,210 --> 01:30:15,030 law school on a weekend that how Obama manipulated the white 1390 01:30:15,030 --> 01:30:19,740 students to make him head of the Harvard Law Review. We exchange 1391 01:30:19,740 --> 01:30:22,560 for him to stab all the black students in the back. And I 1392 01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,580 happen to stumble into a meeting of the Federalist Society. And 1393 01:30:26,580 --> 01:30:31,710 what I heard was a man saying how much he hated black people 1394 01:30:31,770 --> 01:30:34,410 and how black people were stupid and how they were despicable. 1395 01:30:34,650 --> 01:30:37,260 And how he could control them and he knew how they felt about 1396 01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:40,110 him. And I was listened to this person, and I'm telling you my 1397 01:30:40,110 --> 01:30:43,440 spirit at the sign of the black man about six foot six, one, 1398 01:30:43,860 --> 01:30:48,210 bisexual, biracial. So I walk quickly through the Harkins 1399 01:30:48,210 --> 01:30:51,090 common which is a student union at the law school and saw Obama. 1400 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,470 The audience turned and looked at me, we looked at each other. 1401 01:30:55,890 --> 01:30:59,940 I was so angry at the stuff he said about black folks. But I 1402 01:30:59,940 --> 01:31:02,490 realized while I'm out number this what what difference can I 1403 01:31:02,490 --> 01:31:05,070 make? So I stormed out the building, and I asked some 1404 01:31:05,070 --> 01:31:09,540 people who some collateral in there, he realized, like Richard 1405 01:31:09,540 --> 01:31:13,140 Nixon on crack, he's the president. And that's where I 1406 01:31:13,140 --> 01:31:16,140 heard the name Obama, and that if he were made head of the 1407 01:31:16,140 --> 01:31:20,280 Harvard Law Review, he would keep the blacks in check. For 1408 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,160 the most ultra conservative agenda, whatever they want to 1409 01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,490 do. He said, Because black people would look at him, and 1410 01:31:26,490 --> 01:31:28,380 they trust him, although he wasn't one of them. 1411 01:31:28,590 --> 01:31:35,250 Wow. He's so this is Randy. He's a radio guy, right? Randy short? 1412 01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:36,030 No, Dr. 1413 01:31:36,030 --> 01:31:39,810 Randy shore, he was he's a doctor. He's the one that wrote 1414 01:31:39,810 --> 01:31:43,140 the news on our show about the Depo Provera shot. No, yes. 1415 01:31:43,140 --> 01:31:46,680 Harming black women. Right. So he, I mean, he he's, you know, 1416 01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:54,630 he's said considering, you know, Valley resource in a, quote 1417 01:31:54,630 --> 01:32:00,270 unquote, black conscious community or black. Not 1418 01:32:00,270 --> 01:32:01,440 mainstream community, 1419 01:32:02,010 --> 01:32:04,950 like conscious community. That's a good one, like that. 1420 01:32:06,090 --> 01:32:11,190 So Randy, here to give us a statement on Brock Obama, and 1421 01:32:11,190 --> 01:32:14,220 I'm just gonna take it on face value. I'm not gonna say I don't 1422 01:32:14,220 --> 01:32:16,650 have no reason not to believe him. But that's a very 1423 01:32:17,070 --> 01:32:21,960 inflammatory statement, but it aligns with his membership in 1424 01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:25,260 Skull and Bones, which you you said before about him being a 1425 01:32:25,260 --> 01:32:28,230 white supremacist? Well, the Skull and Bones is the 1426 01:32:28,230 --> 01:32:32,130 preeminent. It's the clients that, by the definition that we 1427 01:32:32,130 --> 01:32:37,620 use the white supremacy is the club. And for he's not in the 1428 01:32:37,620 --> 01:32:40,890 black man's skull and bones, what we call it the Boulais. 1429 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:46,740 He's actually in Yeah, he's actually in the skull and bones. 1430 01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:49,560 So 1431 01:32:50,730 --> 01:32:52,650 the Illuminati, yes, yes. 1432 01:32:54,060 --> 01:32:58,830 So we had to, he has to have some understandings of how this 1433 01:32:58,830 --> 01:33:04,860 world has to work to be in to be in that group. So I think he, 1434 01:33:05,190 --> 01:33:09,690 this is why he's such a moderate because on one side, he's been 1435 01:33:09,690 --> 01:33:13,830 pulling in one direction to the right. But then to maintain his 1436 01:33:13,830 --> 01:33:18,570 cover or maintain his credibility, he has to let 1437 01:33:18,570 --> 01:33:24,240 herself fall by the left and NAS reason why he chose Chicago as 1438 01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,670 his home one of the blackest cities in America outside of 1439 01:33:26,670 --> 01:33:32,070 Detroit, maybe Washington, DC, um, his wife has strong roots in 1440 01:33:32,070 --> 01:33:35,400 the community. Her father has strong roots in the community. 1441 01:33:35,550 --> 01:33:39,630 So it just made sense. And then he needs this, like, start 1442 01:33:39,630 --> 01:33:42,600 building up on those credentials. You have over 1443 01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,780 there. I don't know how connected they last how long. It 1444 01:33:45,780 --> 01:33:46,650 is a connection. 1445 01:33:46,740 --> 01:33:48,780 I think there was a path. You know, there were people there 1446 01:33:48,780 --> 01:33:52,440 who saw a pathway within the in the state government, that would 1447 01:33:52,440 --> 01:33:54,390 be a pathway for Obama 1448 01:33:55,500 --> 01:33:57,900 to be dead, because I mean, the Democrats pretty much run 1449 01:33:57,900 --> 01:34:03,540 Chicago, we said this before. The pocket of power they have so 1450 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,600 pretty much whoever they want to win certain elections. They can 1451 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,010 give them the win when 1452 01:34:08,700 --> 01:34:11,340 Lori Lightfoot, that just proves it, doesn't it? 1453 01:34:14,370 --> 01:34:18,660 Yeah. So I think he had to ingrain himself in Chicago 1454 01:34:18,660 --> 01:34:23,580 society, and that brings him to Reverend Wright's church. Yes. 1455 01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,940 The controversy started with words spoken by the Reverend 1456 01:34:29,940 --> 01:34:34,080 Jeremiah Wright in his sermons. In one of them he blames America 1457 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:38,220 for a long history of military policies that he says cause the 1458 01:34:38,220 --> 01:34:41,160 September 11 2001 terrorist attacks. 1459 01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:48,240 We bombed Hiroshima Nagasaki than the 1000s in New York and 1460 01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,730 dependents, and we never batted an eye. 1461 01:34:51,480 --> 01:34:54,510 Most Americans would not normally have heard about these 1462 01:34:54,510 --> 01:34:56,730 sermons without Reverend Wright's connection to 1463 01:34:56,730 --> 01:35:00,360 Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. right is 1464 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:04,020 the retired Pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, where 1465 01:35:04,020 --> 01:35:07,770 Obama is a member of Obama has called right his spiritual 1466 01:35:07,770 --> 01:35:11,610 mentor and the man who brought him to Christ. But once the 1467 01:35:11,610 --> 01:35:15,060 fiery pulpit remarks were made public in March, and widely 1468 01:35:15,060 --> 01:35:18,900 disseminated on the internet, Obama condemned them. In a 1469 01:35:18,900 --> 01:35:21,870 speech he called Rights view of the US. It's profoundly 1470 01:35:21,870 --> 01:35:25,110 distorted. Reverend Wright commented on that Monday. 1471 01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,400 politicians say what they say and do what they do, based on 1472 01:35:29,730 --> 01:35:33,720 electability, based on sound bites, based on polls, 1473 01:35:33,780 --> 01:35:37,380 right says the black church is invisible and misunderstood by 1474 01:35:37,380 --> 01:35:41,340 what he called the dominant culture, meaning white America. 1475 01:35:41,580 --> 01:35:43,980 This is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright has nothing to 1476 01:35:43,980 --> 01:35:46,590 do with Senator Obama isn't an attack on the black church 1477 01:35:46,590 --> 01:35:48,870 launched by people who know nothing about the African 1478 01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:49,980 American religious tradition. 1479 01:35:51,990 --> 01:35:58,860 This I think this this, this revelation was one of the first 1480 01:35:58,890 --> 01:36:03,000 videos I believe, to kind of go what we then wouldn't even know 1481 01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,970 what to call it but viral on YouTube. And that's why it 1482 01:36:05,970 --> 01:36:08,850 hadn't addressed I mean, of course, there was some media 1483 01:36:08,850 --> 01:36:12,000 outlets playing it, questioning it. I think they already were 1484 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,360 prepared for it. But people had questions. And so they had to 1485 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:19,290 build something around that and smother this, I guess. 1486 01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:27,120 And with the right situation, this with that fear the angry 1487 01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,370 black man again, it's like, oh, 1488 01:36:31,290 --> 01:36:34,980 that's yes. Now I get the angry black man. But yeah, that that 1489 01:36:34,980 --> 01:36:39,570 scared people. That way. Right. Right. was talking. Yeah, that 1490 01:36:39,570 --> 01:36:40,320 scared people. 1491 01:36:41,430 --> 01:36:46,920 So I'm just saying so. Two things. He said there one. He 1492 01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,200 said that people don't understand the black church. 1493 01:36:49,290 --> 01:36:52,290 When I heard this. I was like, I heard that before. I mean, it 1494 01:36:52,290 --> 01:36:57,960 wasn't shocking to me. I think this is part of why people 1495 01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:03,630 congregate the way they do. Because certain truths are 1496 01:37:04,020 --> 01:37:07,050 certain things that are perceived to be true by that 1497 01:37:07,050 --> 01:37:11,460 community can be voice without repercussions. Right? It's like 1498 01:37:11,460 --> 01:37:14,460 okay, when I went to church, looking around, okay, it's not 1499 01:37:14,490 --> 01:37:18,150 black people. All right now. Well, we can talk. All right now 1500 01:37:18,150 --> 01:37:21,900 we can go it's the barbershop effect the same thing, right? 1501 01:37:21,900 --> 01:37:25,260 You can look around like Okay, now we can really let loose so 1502 01:37:25,260 --> 01:37:33,030 when he said that it didn't really I've never heard before, 1503 01:37:33,060 --> 01:37:36,660 I mean, for coming from that type of preacher because they're 1504 01:37:36,660 --> 01:37:40,230 not every preacher is like that, but you have those fire and 1505 01:37:40,230 --> 01:37:45,300 brimstone. People that bring that kind of narrative. Sure. 1506 01:37:45,540 --> 01:37:49,110 What I want to do is and this is all and we can do it on shows 1507 01:37:49,110 --> 01:37:54,240 like this. I want to listen to Reverend Wright's comments, 1508 01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,100 because all you heard was god damn America. 1509 01:37:57,750 --> 01:38:00,630 We never never we never really saw the full thing unless you 1510 01:38:00,630 --> 01:38:03,600 know, you know, even YouTube was was clip just to say the 1511 01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,110 horrible things. Yeah, that's, that's why we have a podcast so 1512 01:38:07,110 --> 01:38:09,150 we can roll it all out. So I 1513 01:38:09,150 --> 01:38:13,050 want to hear this almost a minute, 30 minute portion of 1514 01:38:13,050 --> 01:38:16,410 that sermon in context, so you can hear what he was actually 1515 01:38:16,410 --> 01:38:16,860 saying. 1516 01:38:17,340 --> 01:38:21,390 And the United States of America government, when it came to 1517 01:38:21,390 --> 01:38:26,730 treating her citizens of Indian descent, fairly, she failed. She 1518 01:38:26,730 --> 01:38:30,780 put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens 1519 01:38:30,930 --> 01:38:35,010 of Japanese descent fairly. She failed. She put them in 1520 01:38:35,010 --> 01:38:39,330 internment prison camps. When it came to treating the citizens of 1521 01:38:39,330 --> 01:38:44,160 African descent family, America failed. She put them in chains, 1522 01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:48,120 the government, put them on slave quarters, put them on 1523 01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:52,320 action blocks and blocks, put them in cotton fields, put them 1524 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:56,610 in inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in 1525 01:38:56,610 --> 01:39:01,740 scientific experience, put them in the lowest paying jobs, put 1526 01:39:01,740 --> 01:39:05,430 them outside the equal protection of the law kept him 1527 01:39:05,460 --> 01:39:09,930 out of their racist Bassiana higher education and locked him 1528 01:39:09,930 --> 01:39:13,800 into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government 1529 01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:17,700 gives in the droves, build bigger prisons passes a three 1530 01:39:17,700 --> 01:39:22,290 strike law and then wants us to see God bless America. No, no, 1531 01:39:22,290 --> 01:39:28,020 no, not God bless America. God damn America that's in the Bible 1532 01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:34,710 for killing innocent people. Damn America. Citizen. Human 1533 01:39:43,650 --> 01:39:45,240 Ah, okay. 1534 01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,650 Yeah, hopefully that puts this statement into context. He 1535 01:39:49,650 --> 01:39:53,190 didn't come out the bat saying God damn America. I would have 1536 01:39:53,580 --> 01:39:54,630 liked longer but 1537 01:39:54,660 --> 01:39:58,110 she's like fine, fine people on both sides. I mean, if you only 1538 01:39:58,110 --> 01:40:01,260 see a little bit and you don't get The whole context everything 1539 01:40:01,260 --> 01:40:03,750 that was said then you really miss out on what he was saying 1540 01:40:03,750 --> 01:40:07,110 which obviously how can you disagree with with with up until 1541 01:40:07,110 --> 01:40:09,660 he starts god damn America but even that makes sense in 1542 01:40:09,660 --> 01:40:10,410 context. 1543 01:40:10,890 --> 01:40:14,130 But in the cotton a full context I want to make a three minute 1544 01:40:14,130 --> 01:40:18,330 clip what he was saying was by the standard of the Bible, all 1545 01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:25,380 these kingdoms in the Bible that didn't do the people right God 1546 01:40:25,410 --> 01:40:29,310 took God damn right god damn them yeah and the literal term 1547 01:40:29,310 --> 01:40:34,110 he like fire and brimstone okay well like them on the face of 1548 01:40:34,110 --> 01:40:35,070 the earth this is 1549 01:40:35,070 --> 01:40:39,510 really telling and I wanted to add to that he was reading that 1550 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:43,980 I heard him do a prompter flub twice. Yeah, yeah. And 1551 01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,700 I'm not sure he I'm sure he goes off prompter all the time. 1552 01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:52,110 But I mean, it's not like he's just a fiery preacher who comes 1553 01:40:52,110 --> 01:40:55,110 out of his, you know, straight from God to His to his mouse, 1554 01:40:55,110 --> 01:41:01,140 but he was reading it, but it's kind of it's kind of sad. I 1555 01:41:01,140 --> 01:41:03,930 mean, there comes the angry black man bit, I guess because 1556 01:41:03,930 --> 01:41:07,380 what he's saying was, is the total is totally on message for 1557 01:41:07,380 --> 01:41:14,190 what what what we've discussed what we see is the problem. But 1558 01:41:14,220 --> 01:41:20,040 it's, he had to go he was the he was he was he probably he was 1559 01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:24,360 probably, he was probably seen as an asset who would really 1560 01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:29,730 help and somehow, I'm just gonna go out on a limb. Maybe Fox 1561 01:41:29,730 --> 01:41:33,750 News, or one of these outfits just started slamming the crap 1562 01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:37,380 out of the god damn America, god damn America. And that became 1563 01:41:37,380 --> 01:41:40,230 the narrative and he had to go then he had to go, then he got 1564 01:41:40,260 --> 01:41:44,490 like, you got to go. Sorry. Obama even came to his defense a 1565 01:41:44,490 --> 01:41:46,200 little bit in the beginning if I recall. 1566 01:41:47,070 --> 01:41:50,580 He did it got too hot right now. I'm sure the Democratic Party 1567 01:41:50,580 --> 01:41:56,040 was like, gotta let him Yeah, you gotta let him go. But Brock 1568 01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:59,430 Obama went and be the person that he was politically if he 1569 01:41:59,430 --> 01:42:03,420 was anchored by that same Church in Chicago, so yeah, it's like 1570 01:42:03,480 --> 01:42:06,360 it gives him one hand takes the other How did he do that? 1571 01:42:06,390 --> 01:42:08,700 Reverend Wright? Was that how did he do it? 1572 01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:11,190 How did it How did what happened to Reverend Wright? Did he just 1573 01:42:11,220 --> 01:42:12,840 melt away into the background? 1574 01:42:13,650 --> 01:42:18,270 Yeah, he was. Nobody's above Barack Obama. So once he was bad 1575 01:42:18,270 --> 01:42:22,770 for Barack Obama, he was bad for black people. And he was cast 1576 01:42:22,770 --> 01:42:25,920 away now Reverend Wright has some interesting background 1577 01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,280 himself because he was like nurses something for one of the 1578 01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:33,240 presidents or something so it's like when you hear this man Um, 1579 01:42:33,870 --> 01:42:36,780 talk if you want to look that up so nothing is on his wiki page 1580 01:42:36,780 --> 01:42:40,230 but um, when you hear this man talk about god damn America it's 1581 01:42:40,230 --> 01:42:48,030 not like he's some ah a person that hates America or never 1582 01:42:48,030 --> 01:42:52,260 believed in it. I think when black man gets to a certain age 1583 01:42:52,260 --> 01:42:57,750 they get no disillusion. Like when I put all my energy into 1584 01:42:57,750 --> 01:43:00,360 being a good like the man was saying that the fear of the 1585 01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,480 angry black man like we did everything right. And you say 1586 01:43:03,480 --> 01:43:06,930 you you to be a man, you got to keep your word you said is equal 1587 01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:12,570 country. What's the problems? Right, right. But yeah, Reverend 1588 01:43:12,570 --> 01:43:15,480 Wright has government he was in the military. And he there's a 1589 01:43:15,480 --> 01:43:17,820 picture of him and one of the Presidents I can't Well, he 1590 01:43:17,820 --> 01:43:21,390 actually he actually served three presidents. He's with 1591 01:43:21,390 --> 01:43:23,100 three I know there was one for sure. But 1592 01:43:23,460 --> 01:43:29,760 John Johnson he sort of Johnson that's the nurse part. And he 1593 01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:33,990 also worked with Bill Clinton of course. 1594 01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:36,960 But that made it seem like this ferric 1595 01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:43,410 figure Wow. And you know how that's so interesting. I in my 1596 01:43:43,410 --> 01:43:46,350 mind, I'd written Jared and the Reverend Jeremiah first of all, 1597 01:43:46,350 --> 01:43:49,650 Reverend, so when Yeah, we don't really know where he's coming 1598 01:43:49,650 --> 01:43:55,290 from. When we know he knows what side the bread is buttered on 1599 01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:56,190 Lionel mommies, 1600 01:43:56,190 --> 01:43:58,770 they always give me a biscuit on my birthday. 1601 01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:05,100 But but can't can't deny that message. The message was right I 1602 01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:08,490 mean it would I bet I'm more convinced now than ever that he 1603 01:44:08,490 --> 01:44:11,940 was supposed to be a part of it and just screwed up had to go 1604 01:44:13,350 --> 01:44:16,590 yes, but this is brought going back to the right like I said he 1605 01:44:16,590 --> 01:44:20,100 had to walk the center line. Yeah. And it's you got the 1606 01:44:20,100 --> 01:44:23,430 revenue errors I mean, not miss river error but the bill error 1607 01:44:25,620 --> 01:44:30,660 handling now you got this angry Farrakhan type preacher saying, 1608 01:44:30,660 --> 01:44:34,620 God damn America, it's like, hey, like, slow it down. You 1609 01:44:34,620 --> 01:44:37,680 need to write a speech and things over well, not right. 1610 01:44:37,830 --> 01:44:38,820 You need to read one. 1611 01:44:39,599 --> 01:44:46,139 Yeah, well read one. So Brock Obama, I mean, excuse me, we 1612 01:44:46,139 --> 01:44:49,559 have a clip of Larry elders. He's talking about the sweet 1613 01:44:49,559 --> 01:44:52,739 path that was laid out for Barack Obama. I mean, we got to 1614 01:44:52,739 --> 01:44:55,169 consider you Larry elders. He's a conservative. So I mean, 1615 01:44:55,469 --> 01:44:59,339 obviously he has an obvious bone to pick with Brock Obama, but I 1616 01:44:59,339 --> 01:45:02,429 think this is a fair This is a fair assessment of how things 1617 01:45:02,429 --> 01:45:04,289 were laid out for Barry, 1618 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:08,100 Obama misled Americans for his own political benefit. David 1619 01:45:08,100 --> 01:45:11,670 Axelrod writes in his new book, I'm just not very good at both. 1620 01:45:11,910 --> 01:45:15,720 Obama told Axelrod after Ron writes that he knew Obama was in 1621 01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,660 favor of same sex marriage. Axelrod admits to counseling 1622 01:45:18,660 --> 01:45:22,530 Obama to conceal his position for political reasons. And of 1623 01:45:22,530 --> 01:45:26,820 course, let's get back to it. So Obama then moves to Chicago, not 1624 01:45:26,820 --> 01:45:30,420 from there. He joined the trendy church because of the his desire 1625 01:45:30,420 --> 01:45:33,990 for political connections. And he decides to run for state 1626 01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:36,720 senate because the incumbent decided to run for another 1627 01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:39,960 office. she changes her mind decided to keep her office. 1628 01:45:40,110 --> 01:45:43,200 Obama said I'm sorry, I'm staying in the race. Obama 1629 01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:46,020 didn't challenge all the signatures he had to file to run 1630 01:45:46,020 --> 01:45:49,470 for reelection, and essentially got her kicked off the ballot. 1631 01:45:49,530 --> 01:45:54,180 So Obama won without any opposition. Then Obama decided 1632 01:45:54,180 --> 01:45:58,440 to challenge Bobby Rush for Congress, he primaries him and 1633 01:45:58,440 --> 01:46:01,860 Bobby Rush the foreign Black Panther kicks, Obama's but how 1634 01:46:01,860 --> 01:46:05,310 and why? Because he characterizes Obama is not truly 1635 01:46:05,310 --> 01:46:09,060 black from Harvard, taught at University of Chicago 1636 01:46:09,150 --> 01:46:12,510 Carpetbagger, not really from Chicago, he understand the 1637 01:46:12,510 --> 01:46:15,150 culture, your blood, Senator Obama even complained about it. 1638 01:46:15,810 --> 01:46:19,260 So what did Obama do when he got his butt kicked? He redesigned 1639 01:46:19,260 --> 01:46:22,770 his states in the district to make it more white. Were 1640 01:46:22,770 --> 01:46:27,360 affluent, more Jewish, less black, less poor. They explained 1641 01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:31,020 to me how racism is hurt this man. And then he decides to run 1642 01:46:31,020 --> 01:46:34,980 for US Senate. And he's not likely to win. But little by 1643 01:46:34,980 --> 01:46:37,650 little by little scandal and other things. Knock off the 1644 01:46:37,650 --> 01:46:41,040 front runners he runs. And he wins. 1645 01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,790 And that was Axelrod Axelrod brought out all the dirt on his 1646 01:46:44,790 --> 01:46:45,600 opponents. 1647 01:46:46,290 --> 01:46:53,760 Yeah, so that's rottenness gay. Having his true views on gay 1648 01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:58,800 rights. That whole Joe Biden coming out first instead of 1649 01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:02,820 brought that was all planned. Because Barack just couldn't, 1650 01:47:03,420 --> 01:47:06,690 for lack of better term and no pun intended, just come out of 1651 01:47:06,690 --> 01:47:09,990 the closet. You're saying and say, hey, you know, it's I'm for 1652 01:47:09,990 --> 01:47:14,490 gay marriages now. So it's like, Hey, Joe. You go out there, you 1653 01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:16,560 want to slip out of like, slipping 1654 01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,740 me right? You out me? And then I'm like, What am I gonna do? 1655 01:47:19,770 --> 01:47:22,350 Right? Well, that's not what's planned that my opinion. Well, 1656 01:47:22,350 --> 01:47:22,620 that's 1657 01:47:22,650 --> 01:47:25,170 that's an interesting take. Because the way I always saw it 1658 01:47:25,170 --> 01:47:30,000 was Joe was such a bumbling fool that he he spilled an axe. And 1659 01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:34,290 now, now that I'm reconsidering this, thank you. I think you're 1660 01:47:34,290 --> 01:47:38,550 right. And but you know what? They, Joe still probably wasn't 1661 01:47:38,550 --> 01:47:43,800 part of the plan. They probably whatever, Joe, whatever you do, 1662 01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:47,130 don't talk about the gay marriage thing. Joe. Don't talk 1663 01:47:47,130 --> 01:47:50,640 about Joe do not talk about the gay marriage thing. Tell Joe 1664 01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,070 talks about the gay marriage thing and boom, and Brock was 1665 01:47:53,070 --> 01:47:57,360 like, Oh, well, you know, yeah, you know, all the legislation 1666 01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:02,010 was ready that everything good to go. I'm gonna agree with I'm 1667 01:48:02,010 --> 01:48:02,580 gonna agree with and 1668 01:48:02,580 --> 01:48:06,450 it was real touch and go there and that reelection because the 1669 01:48:06,450 --> 01:48:09,720 black church because of it. Yeah. That was a it was a it was 1670 01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,270 a civil war in the black church over Obama. 1671 01:48:12,780 --> 01:48:14,910 over the over the same sex marriage? 1672 01:48:15,300 --> 01:48:18,810 Yes. Because it's like, are we really putting a bomb above 1673 01:48:18,810 --> 01:48:23,130 Jesus? I mean, that was the that was the where does he 1674 01:48:23,130 --> 01:48:28,710 hang in the trilogy on the wall? I mean, does he hang above MLK? 1675 01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:31,200 Does he hang right next to Jesus? 1676 01:48:31,770 --> 01:48:36,480 Well, JFK comes now. Obama goes on the go so you gotta you gotta 1677 01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:40,980 keep hear me. Okay, in bruh Jesus, hello, Minister. What 1678 01:48:40,980 --> 01:48:47,970 after that's the liberal feminist wall. On the General 1679 01:48:47,970 --> 01:48:55,380 black wall, is it still Jesus MLK and Obama, Barack Obama. But 1680 01:48:55,380 --> 01:48:58,290 that silver word did happen because it's like people that 1681 01:48:58,290 --> 01:49:04,920 are Bible based, not what you I don't care what Obama said. But 1682 01:49:05,490 --> 01:49:09,030 at the same time, it was where we the second term you know, we 1683 01:49:09,030 --> 01:49:13,590 gotta get the second term. This is really witnesses. When it 1684 01:49:13,590 --> 01:49:17,070 comes to this far, keep keep our eyes on the prize. 1685 01:49:17,580 --> 01:49:20,790 Yes shall go and push push. Let's go is important. He's 1686 01:49:20,790 --> 01:49:22,110 going to do stuff for us. 1687 01:49:23,250 --> 01:49:27,120 Yep. And then the role laid out for him. I want to say this one 1688 01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:31,800 thing is, I truly believe we saw Trading Places happen in real 1689 01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:36,600 life with Barack Obama and Senator Edwards from North 1690 01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:41,940 Carolina. I truly believe that's the only competition Brock Obama 1691 01:49:41,940 --> 01:49:45,300 really had and he really stalled his identity if you really look 1692 01:49:45,300 --> 01:49:50,850 at this really. Look, it wasn't not here. I must say Harry, it 1693 01:49:50,850 --> 01:49:54,600 was not how it was my off with the names today but Edwards he 1694 01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:57,720 had the perfect hair and he was like the JFK reincorporate on 1695 01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:02,340 reincarnated. Within that story came out Oh, John Edwards, 1696 01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:05,250 Edwards. They removed John Edwards. 1697 01:50:05,310 --> 01:50:08,970 Oh, yeah, they canceled him over a haircut. Remember that 1698 01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,790 they get a calcium over that. But they were looking for 1699 01:50:11,820 --> 01:50:14,910 anything to get rid of him. Oh, yeah. Because he stood in Brock 1700 01:50:14,910 --> 01:50:17,220 Obama's way he was in my bag. 1701 01:50:17,220 --> 01:50:21,390 He cheated on his wife. He still campaigned for funds had a $300 1702 01:50:21,390 --> 01:50:24,660 haircut and his airplane on the runway. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, they 1703 01:50:24,660 --> 01:50:24,840 will. 1704 01:50:25,170 --> 01:50:29,370 But prior to Brock Obama, he was the favorite to be President 1705 01:50:29,460 --> 01:50:32,670 really needed to be a Yeah, yeah. He does have 1706 01:50:32,970 --> 01:50:36,060 to be eliminated. He stepped right into his shoes and was 1707 01:50:36,060 --> 01:50:40,020 like, oh, yeah, I'm the guy for every every American. Yeah, I 1708 01:50:40,020 --> 01:50:42,480 really believe that. Not reason why I say trading places because 1709 01:50:42,480 --> 01:50:44,430 that's kind of how the movie went. Right? They took the one 1710 01:50:44,430 --> 01:50:49,350 guy, white guy. Yeah. Put it in. And they're like, see mortar 1711 01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:57,030 move. Exactly. $1. Oh, good point. So they talk about the 1712 01:50:57,060 --> 01:51:00,720 narrative of the gay rights. But this is another narrative that 1713 01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:04,800 they had to keep running. And that's the slave narrative, or 1714 01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,260 his connection to slavery. Yes. 1715 01:51:07,860 --> 01:51:09,090 His legitimacy 1716 01:51:10,230 --> 01:51:17,010 when it hit me, because I was like, Okay. That was all for 1717 01:51:17,010 --> 01:51:20,700 Obama. I saw where the money was coming from funding. And I was 1718 01:51:20,700 --> 01:51:22,350 like, they're not giving him that kind of money if he's gonna 1719 01:51:22,350 --> 01:51:26,610 be a real revolution, Neri type figure, because all the banks is 1720 01:51:26,610 --> 01:51:29,100 lined up and you're saying, the blank checks ready, like 1721 01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:31,920 whatever you need. And that's what I was like, oh, no, about 1722 01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:38,760 this guy. And just as a small story was, I was in Chicago, 1723 01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:42,390 actually, the day that he won the nomination. It was me and my 1724 01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:45,960 brothers were on a road trip. And it's just like, I have a 1725 01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:49,260 connection there. Right? Just like I was in Chicago. Sure. 1726 01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:51,750 That must have been great. Mom, I must have been a great we were 1727 01:51:51,750 --> 01:51:55,110 actually at this little bar. And it was like, everybody was just 1728 01:51:55,110 --> 01:51:58,740 happy. I mean, I never remember people being it was a black 1729 01:51:58,740 --> 01:52:02,130 establishment. So it was just like a sense of pride. So I get 1730 01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:07,320 how people get sucked in. But let me I just want to say at 1731 01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:10,680 point, but the slavery net weight hit me was, I remember 1732 01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:13,920 where he was. And I woke up the next morning, and I saw a 1733 01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,650 picture this little old lady and he said, from slavery to the 1734 01:52:16,650 --> 01:52:21,090 White House. It was like Obama and there have been no slaves. 1735 01:52:24,150 --> 01:52:25,200 But they were talking about, 1736 01:52:25,410 --> 01:52:26,310 Oh, 1737 01:52:26,340 --> 01:52:31,170 y'all, nudging me? knew what a nudge word by this felt this. 1738 01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:35,670 Oh, y'all are playing with us. So this whole narrative and then 1739 01:52:35,670 --> 01:52:39,780 people start getting hit like, he's not really one of us. I 1740 01:52:39,780 --> 01:52:42,030 mean, that's what brought me Rush was saying right, and when 1741 01:52:42,030 --> 01:52:46,560 he ran against him, he's not really one of us. So there was 1742 01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:51,720 this concerted effort to keep Brock Obama toxic slavery. And 1743 01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:54,450 if they couldn't do it through him, they did it through 1744 01:52:54,450 --> 01:52:54,990 Michelle. 1745 01:52:55,589 --> 01:52:58,649 This morning. We are learning fascinating details of Michelle 1746 01:52:58,649 --> 01:53:03,239 Obama's roots. today's New York Times traces her family's five 1747 01:53:03,239 --> 01:53:09,359 generation path from slavery to the White House. We're joined 1748 01:53:09,359 --> 01:53:12,299 this morning by genealogist Megan smolenyak who uncovered 1749 01:53:12,299 --> 01:53:16,199 Mrs. Obama's family tree. Good morning. This is what this is 1750 01:53:16,229 --> 01:53:21,209 almost a mystery. We we knew for certain that on her father's 1751 01:53:21,209 --> 01:53:24,389 side of the family that the trace back to slavery, but there 1752 01:53:24,389 --> 01:53:28,169 were rumors about on her mother's side. How did you make 1753 01:53:28,169 --> 01:53:30,359 the connection and who was the key person? 1754 01:53:30,570 --> 01:53:32,970 Well, I'll tell you I worked back methodically generation by 1755 01:53:32,970 --> 01:53:36,000 generation, but of all her ancestors. The one who called to 1756 01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,510 me the most loudly was when they Melvina, who was a great, great, 1757 01:53:39,540 --> 01:53:43,290 great grandmother. And she was just fascinating. For example, I 1758 01:53:43,290 --> 01:53:46,590 found a codicil on her from 1850, where she's first 1759 01:53:46,590 --> 01:53:50,190 mentioned, she's only six years old. And in that document, her 1760 01:53:50,190 --> 01:53:53,130 first owner, a fella by the name of David Patterson is leaving 1761 01:53:53,130 --> 01:53:55,560 her to his wife when he passes away or it 1762 01:53:55,559 --> 01:53:58,889 is I mean, there is the actual will and testament and this 1763 01:53:58,919 --> 01:54:02,999 little girl is named she's six years old. She's also listed in 1764 01:54:02,999 --> 01:54:06,299 another I mean, it is listed as a piece of property. What is 1765 01:54:06,299 --> 01:54:06,989 your value? 1766 01:54:07,349 --> 01:54:09,359 $475 1767 01:54:09,959 --> 01:54:16,799 Oh, man, that got it all. That's fantastic. From 475 to 500 1768 01:54:16,799 --> 01:54:17,279 million. 1769 01:54:18,390 --> 01:54:21,960 Yep, property, she's property but nobody questioned Michelle's 1770 01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:25,200 lineage to slavery. I mean, that wasn't a question. So they had 1771 01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:29,370 to keep digging. And then they thought a new discovery of 1772 01:54:29,370 --> 01:54:30,570 Obama's ancestry. 1773 01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:34,260 President Obama's story is well known his father from Kenya, his 1774 01:54:34,260 --> 01:54:37,830 mother from the United States, but ancestry.com says it has 1775 01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:42,480 mapped out the Obama family tree going back 11 generations with 1776 01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:46,140 stunning conclusion. Anastasia Harmon is the company's lead 1777 01:54:46,140 --> 01:54:47,250 family historian. 1778 01:54:47,490 --> 01:54:51,360 Our conclusion is that President Obama's first African American 1779 01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:55,530 president is the 11th great grandson of the first documented 1780 01:54:55,530 --> 01:54:57,300 enslaved African in what was 1781 01:54:58,590 --> 01:55:01,860 the link is made not from his father's side, but from his 1782 01:55:01,860 --> 01:55:05,790 mother and Dunham's lineage, she was connected back to a man 1783 01:55:05,790 --> 01:55:09,720 named John Punch, record show punch who lived in Virginia had 1784 01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:12,960 children with a white woman. Those children later became 1785 01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:17,190 known as the bunch family. The findings of the two year study 1786 01:55:17,220 --> 01:55:21,330 are now posted on the company's website. So how did the research 1787 01:55:21,330 --> 01:55:23,130 team figure this out? As we're 1788 01:55:23,130 --> 01:55:26,100 going, you know, from President Obama to his mom and grandmother 1789 01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:29,310 and great grandmother, you're looking for, like birth and 1790 01:55:29,310 --> 01:55:32,040 marriage and death records, all those kind of records as we get 1791 01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:35,190 farther back in time, though, they weren't kept or they've 1792 01:55:35,190 --> 01:55:37,800 been destroyed over time, the Civil War, a lot of records are 1793 01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:40,890 destroyed, fires, floods and things like that. So we start 1794 01:55:40,890 --> 01:55:43,140 looking at what we call surviving records, church 1795 01:55:43,140 --> 01:55:46,440 records, land records. And so when we get really far back into 1796 01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:51,570 like, your John bunch, the third who's born in 1680, he from here 1797 01:55:51,570 --> 01:55:53,010 on out we're looking at Land Records, 1798 01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:56,760 University of Maryland history professor I Oberlin says all of 1799 01:55:56,760 --> 01:56:00,570 this is perfectly plausible, because there was a time when 1800 01:56:00,570 --> 01:56:04,710 white indentured servants and black slaves freely intermingled 1801 01:56:05,460 --> 01:56:08,520 Oh, oh, as before Black Lives Matter. 1802 01:56:09,330 --> 01:56:16,740 Yeah. So the first black president, son of Stanley named 1803 01:56:16,740 --> 01:56:20,640 Barack Hussein Obama, is connected to the first slave 1804 01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:24,720 ever Exactly. In America. What are the chances white mama sighs 1805 01:56:24,750 --> 01:56:25,200 Thank you. 1806 01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:26,670 ancestry.com. 1807 01:56:28,170 --> 01:56:34,200 Maybe we'll get out of here with we have the time they will fill 1808 01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:36,480 in the pressure. They were they had they had 1809 01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:40,890 to do so. We gotta do it. Gotta find slavery. Yes. Wow. 1810 01:56:41,910 --> 01:56:49,980 But the magic world. And even his most ardent supporters 1811 01:56:51,900 --> 01:56:57,750 became disillusioned with Brock Obama and his whole do nothing 1812 01:56:57,750 --> 01:57:01,230 attitude for black people. And one of those being Michael Eric 1813 01:57:01,230 --> 01:57:05,730 Dyson. And so I have a clip from Michael Eric Dyson, then, and 1814 01:57:05,730 --> 01:57:09,540 then we're gonna go and see how he's become dissatisfied and 1815 01:57:10,350 --> 01:57:15,300 angry, angry black man. President Obama. So let's start 1816 01:57:15,300 --> 01:57:17,640 off with 30. 1817 01:57:18,180 --> 01:57:23,040 We began with Barack Obama's election to believe many did 1818 01:57:23,190 --> 01:57:27,780 that we're living in a post racial society. Vin Been there 1819 01:57:27,780 --> 01:57:32,820 done black over with it. And what happened, of course, is 1820 01:57:32,820 --> 01:57:38,100 that Barack Obama unexpectedly to some just evoked all of this 1821 01:57:38,130 --> 01:57:43,440 racial animus and hostility. You mentioned Dylann Roof, the young 1822 01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:47,130 white man who murdered nine people in that Charleston 1823 01:57:47,130 --> 01:57:50,400 church. He wrote a kind of crazed manifesto and in it he 1824 01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,790 said, You people are taking over basically I have to do this. 1825 01:57:53,820 --> 01:57:54,690 Yeah, that's 1826 01:57:59,580 --> 01:58:06,510 a whole nother story. Dylann Roof is manifesto of sorts. He 1827 01:58:06,510 --> 01:58:08,310 wrote this. Oh, convenient. 1828 01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:12,750 Yeah, that was Mayor Eric. My Apps give me Michael Eric Dyson, 1829 01:58:12,780 --> 01:58:19,380 then caping for Obama and Obama explaining away all his issues, 1830 01:58:19,620 --> 01:58:23,970 issues. Now let's Well, where are you at one, 1831 01:58:24,389 --> 01:58:26,789 what people were trying to get Obama to do? It ain't just about 1832 01:58:26,789 --> 01:58:30,389 legislation, use your voice and speak up. Not know he's that 1833 01:58:30,389 --> 01:58:32,519 office. Now. I love him. I want him to make as much money as you 1834 01:58:32,519 --> 01:58:38,789 can. But don't just make money. Make meanings speak. Sir. You 1835 01:58:38,789 --> 01:58:41,489 have the bully pulpit of the world before you you just can 1836 01:58:41,489 --> 01:58:46,079 accumulate chips and cash and make money and I ain't mad at 1837 01:58:46,079 --> 01:58:48,869 you make all the money you want. Make all the money you need get 1838 01:58:48,869 --> 01:58:52,949 your paper, but speak up about Donald Trump you out of office. 1839 01:58:52,949 --> 01:58:55,199 When you're in office, we made excuses for you. Oh my god, he 1840 01:58:55,199 --> 01:58:57,989 can't talk because they allow voting you ain't gotta be voted 1841 01:58:57,989 --> 01:59:01,769 on Office no matter where you're at. Obama we love you. I know a 1842 01:59:01,769 --> 01:59:04,259 lot of black people gonna be mad but speak up. 1843 01:59:04,290 --> 01:59:05,580 We feel it needs to do more. 1844 01:59:05,610 --> 01:59:09,540 Oh my God more. What is he done? What does he does name it? What 1845 01:59:09,540 --> 01:59:11,130 have you done? What have you done? Since you've been on the 1846 01:59:11,130 --> 01:59:14,520 office? You spoke up for one politician and said she should 1847 01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:17,400 be in office. You ain't helped out no black people. You You You 1848 01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:21,210 certainly you undermine the candidacy of Keith Ellison to be 1849 01:59:21,210 --> 01:59:26,280 head of the Democratic National Committee. Right DNC and get 1850 01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:29,280 your man in a man Perez is a good dude. But I'm saying you 1851 01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:32,700 undermined the black man. So the black man that people suffered 1852 01:59:32,700 --> 01:59:35,550 for who were black, and who said he should be supported 1853 01:59:35,580 --> 01:59:37,770 undermined the black man ain't got nothing to say about it. I 1854 01:59:37,770 --> 01:59:39,150 know your man. tough. 1855 01:59:40,740 --> 01:59:45,330 Tough. What's the word? I mean, this this has got to be a, this 1856 01:59:45,330 --> 01:59:49,470 has got to be a common question what you do in Baroque. Once you 1857 01:59:49,470 --> 01:59:51,090 say it anywhere, everybody, 1858 01:59:51,450 --> 01:59:55,980 as he only comes out when he's allowed to? I mean, because it's 1859 01:59:55,980 --> 01:59:59,970 clear. He's told what he can speak on. And when he can't 1860 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,750 speakerphone. But Michael Eric Dyson did something tricky 1861 02:00:03,750 --> 02:00:07,080 there. Can you say? What have you done? And then he had to 1862 02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:12,360 think about like, oh, I cosign his whole year. Part of it. 1863 02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:13,650 Yeah. Right. 1864 02:00:13,710 --> 02:00:14,910 What have you done? 1865 02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:23,370 Yes, right. No, wait, I cosign. Lucky Eva. See, 1866 02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:26,520 you know what I always thought, I always thought that the plan 1867 02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:30,780 was is is going to sound weird. There was like a president of 1868 02:00:30,780 --> 02:00:35,160 the World slot for Obama. And that was, you know, just taking 1869 02:00:35,460 --> 02:00:39,600 you in like that. Yeah. So something along those lines, I 1870 02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:42,210 mean, it would have he was young enough, you know, he's young 1871 02:00:42,210 --> 02:00:46,680 enough to take 10 years, 15 years to to create something if 1872 02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:50,130 Hillary Clinton become president, we might have 1873 02:00:50,130 --> 02:00:55,530 actually seen Black Lives Matter turn out very differently. And 1874 02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:59,610 just look at some of the cities that are in on it. It's obvious 1875 02:00:59,610 --> 02:01:02,760 now, I mean, you don't leave people burning crap down to your 1876 02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:06,750 city for for eight weeks. So there was some I always thought 1877 02:01:06,750 --> 02:01:11,940 there was some plan and then Brock Obama would emerge and you 1878 02:01:11,940 --> 02:01:15,060 know, what? reaches out. Oh, well, 1879 02:01:15,450 --> 02:01:20,070 so you said you sound like that has expired. I think that's an I 1880 02:01:20,070 --> 02:01:22,590 said it before. I think this would this Oh, Joe Biden thing 1881 02:01:22,590 --> 02:01:27,690 is Joe Biden is the perfect proxy for Barack Obama to run 1882 02:01:27,690 --> 02:01:29,880 the country without taking any blame 1883 02:01:29,910 --> 02:01:33,120 right. Now. No, I'm with that. But I thought it was going to be 1884 02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:34,920 bigger. I thought it was going to be a bigger thing. 1885 02:01:36,030 --> 02:01:39,960 Yeah, he can't hear me. Yeah, he can't really do that. Because. 1886 02:01:41,010 --> 02:01:45,480 But he's, I think people disillusion me like, people down 1887 02:01:45,480 --> 02:01:48,660 with him. It's like he, he I mean, he's literally like being 1888 02:01:48,660 --> 02:01:51,360 canceled for I mean, to be honest with the people that got 1889 02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:55,650 him there. He can't activate them to go vote. So what good is 1890 02:01:55,650 --> 02:01:55,890 he? 1891 02:02:00,060 --> 02:02:03,030 That's it. That's all you got to say. He can't activate people to 1892 02:02:03,030 --> 02:02:05,790 vote. So he's just no good. He's new to her. Hi. 1893 02:02:05,790 --> 02:02:10,050 Talk to the last I mean, for Hillary Clinton. Yeah. Don't 1894 02:02:10,050 --> 02:02:11,520 clap. Oh, vote. You say? 1895 02:02:12,990 --> 02:02:14,910 My legacy. Yeah, 1896 02:02:14,969 --> 02:02:20,609 right. For my legacy. Yes. For me. But Eric Michael, Eric 1897 02:02:20,609 --> 02:02:26,399 Dyson, he didn't stop there. Where are you brought? What 1898 02:02:26,399 --> 02:02:29,699 reality that what do you think is that the what you see is 1899 02:02:29,700 --> 02:02:31,650 a lack of willingness 1900 02:02:31,650 --> 02:02:34,140 to engage. I mean, that's his personality. That's that who 1901 02:02:34,140 --> 02:02:37,650 winds to chill out personality. And that's also he's not he and 1902 02:02:37,650 --> 02:02:42,510 got the same kind of a ethos, pathos, pain, hurt, and agony 1903 02:02:42,510 --> 02:02:44,850 that black people have had. I'm not saying he's not black. 1904 02:02:44,850 --> 02:02:47,310 That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying he truly black, he is 1905 02:02:47,370 --> 02:02:49,680 black and a lot of black people I know. But he didn't have that 1906 02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:52,260 existential misery growing up in the same way. He doesn't have 1907 02:02:52,260 --> 02:02:57,000 the same anger, necessarily that black people have that were 1908 02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:59,100 outraged by this stuff. He didn't fill it in his gut the 1909 02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:02,130 same way I'm not sending a black is blacker than black. I've 1910 02:03:02,130 --> 02:03:04,710 known Obama since 92, one of the blackest dudes I know. But what 1911 02:03:04,710 --> 02:03:08,190 I'm saying is that you're being black and getting to do with the 1912 02:03:08,190 --> 02:03:11,490 kind of blackness and the kind of experience that you that you 1913 02:03:11,490 --> 02:03:14,790 had and endure. And so you don't you don't feel driven to speak 1914 02:03:14,790 --> 02:03:17,940 out. You don't you're not LeBron James, who said, I'm gonna 1915 02:03:17,940 --> 02:03:20,820 represent for my neighborhood where I came from, regardless of 1916 02:03:20,820 --> 02:03:24,450 all the cash I get, and it's time to put the fire under Obama 1917 02:03:24,450 --> 02:03:28,770 to you out to office now, all the Negro excuses made for you 1918 02:03:28,770 --> 02:03:32,970 while you were in office, to, for us to say, Wait a second, if 1919 02:03:32,970 --> 02:03:35,070 you don't do something, wait to the last half of the second 1920 02:03:35,070 --> 02:03:37,860 term, he gonna do something. What do you do? And I'm saying 1921 02:03:37,860 --> 02:03:41,130 finally got on to criminal justice reform. Okay. And I'm 1922 02:03:41,130 --> 02:03:43,410 saying this out of love for a bum. I know, there's some Negro 1923 02:03:43,410 --> 02:03:46,080 bots out there. There's some Obama bots who can't hear 1924 02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:48,630 nothing. They just as bad. Let me tell you what, Obama bots are 1925 02:03:48,630 --> 02:03:51,330 just as bad as these Trump supporters who can't hear 1926 02:03:51,330 --> 02:03:54,390 criticism. If it's your guy, be willing to say, You know what, I 1927 02:03:54,390 --> 02:03:56,070 love him. I'm gonna ride with him right at that, but there's 1928 02:03:56,070 --> 02:03:58,920 some stuff he could have done better. Wow. 1929 02:03:59,250 --> 02:03:59,880 I heard Jay 1930 02:04:00,389 --> 02:04:04,199 was heard you talked in there. It was really funny. 1931 02:04:04,890 --> 02:04:10,320 What Eric, what happened is Eric leads to hitch his wagon to 1932 02:04:10,410 --> 02:04:15,690 Obama's train. And now the train is not moving off the rails. So 1933 02:04:15,690 --> 02:04:20,250 now it's like, well, where's the most lucrative angle on Obama? 1934 02:04:20,250 --> 02:04:23,250 And that's question to him. Where are you? You know, we get 1935 02:04:23,250 --> 02:04:26,970 all these excuses. And yes, you are saying and I'll say it for 1936 02:04:26,970 --> 02:04:31,470 you. Barack Obama is not black. I will say it. There you have 1937 02:04:31,470 --> 02:04:35,610 it. He keep tiptoe around it. And he realized he said it. He 1938 02:04:35,610 --> 02:04:38,700 had to walk it back for the next 1520 seconds. Well, I'm not 1939 02:04:38,700 --> 02:04:40,530 saying he's not black. He's 1940 02:04:41,730 --> 02:04:42,930 he's more black than black. 1941 02:04:44,610 --> 02:04:46,860 He's black and in the back of forest Whitaker's neck, I mean, 1942 02:04:46,860 --> 02:04:53,340 like. So he did that. So he didn't say anything Bobby Rush 1943 02:04:53,340 --> 02:04:58,320 did but then he's like, I went a little too far and had to back 1944 02:04:58,320 --> 02:05:01,770 it. No reason why I said black He's not black, if you want to 1945 02:05:01,770 --> 02:05:09,510 say Black is a creation of black ink, he didn't hold true to what 1946 02:05:09,510 --> 02:05:12,330 he was supposed to do. Right? And that's the throw black 1947 02:05:12,330 --> 02:05:16,860 people. Either the thought his weight behind their their 1948 02:05:16,860 --> 02:05:20,910 causes, even if he can't get them changed at least last year 1949 02:05:20,910 --> 02:05:24,630 for making an effort. He couldn't say reparations for 1950 02:05:24,660 --> 02:05:27,120 everything else every question like brought what you want for 1951 02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:29,490 much reparations. I mean, that kind of thing. So 1952 02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:34,860 you're so right. You're so and if he would have left saying the 1953 02:05:34,860 --> 02:05:38,760 only thing we haven't gotten done yet America is this? It 1954 02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:40,920 would, it would have been left lingering. And it would have 1955 02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:43,230 been a question that would have been on everybody's mind, but we 1956 02:05:43,230 --> 02:05:46,830 know that that's not the way it works. And always 1957 02:05:46,830 --> 02:05:49,650 how he talks is when it comes down to voting, and it's just 1958 02:05:49,650 --> 02:05:52,170 saying that he brought up brocco bomb Eric Dyson brought up 1959 02:05:52,950 --> 02:05:56,370 Lebron James. It's the same thing. They are funded by the 1960 02:05:56,370 --> 02:05:59,430 same group of people that you can speak on what we allow you 1961 02:05:59,430 --> 02:06:06,930 to speak on Yeah, but China No. Reparations No. If you want to 1962 02:06:06,930 --> 02:06:09,840 talk about putting silly names on black jerseys or whatever it 1963 02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:15,390 go go for voting go for it. But other things no. So they're 1964 02:06:16,110 --> 02:06:20,820 their own in a sense. I mean, it's no no easy way to put it in 1965 02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:24,390 to say and I mean, let me flesh out what I'm saying. So I don't 1966 02:06:24,390 --> 02:06:27,030 sound like Michael Eric Dyson backpedal, backpedaling on if 1967 02:06:27,030 --> 02:06:29,490 he's black and matte, and if he wants a minimum of two 1968 02:06:29,490 --> 02:06:35,010 definitions of black we laid out on the last show, yeah, if 1969 02:06:35,010 --> 02:06:38,190 you're talking about lineage, he's not black, right? He is 1970 02:06:38,190 --> 02:06:42,180 not. You're not a Das, which that is synonymous with black, 1971 02:06:42,180 --> 02:06:44,760 which they stretched it out to mean, whatever they want to now 1972 02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:48,750 with these two definitions, but like I said, I'm a really bad 1973 02:06:48,750 --> 02:06:53,550 but no, by the debt, two definitions. He is not black, 1974 02:06:54,030 --> 02:06:57,450 that was laid out, but not my definition that was laid out by 1975 02:06:57,450 --> 02:06:59,490 Miss colors in her own 1976 02:06:59,519 --> 02:07:03,779 Yes. And last China said that Dyson here that he can't just be 1977 02:07:03,779 --> 02:07:06,449 honest about it. And he had to double down because he kind of 1978 02:07:06,449 --> 02:07:09,329 flubbed it. It's kind of sad. 1979 02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:14,940 When he asked he, liberal universities, well, that's, 1980 02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:20,280 that's why we do a podcast. So we can actually say these things 1981 02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:22,320 and get down to some brass tacks. 1982 02:07:23,070 --> 02:07:26,010 And speaking of what we do, I think it's a good time to 1983 02:07:26,010 --> 02:07:28,200 explain people exactly what we do. 1984 02:07:28,500 --> 02:07:31,650 First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit 1985 02:07:31,650 --> 02:07:34,740 down at the same table, the white man has to feel free to 1986 02:07:34,740 --> 02:07:37,770 speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that negro. And 1987 02:07:37,770 --> 02:07:40,890 the so called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without 1988 02:07:40,890 --> 02:07:43,590 hurting the feeling of the white man, then they can bring the 1989 02:07:43,590 --> 02:07:46,350 issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take 1990 02:07:46,350 --> 02:07:48,750 an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. What's the 1991 02:07:48,750 --> 02:07:50,220 only way we'll ever do it? 1992 02:07:50,340 --> 02:07:53,610 Yes. And the only way that will ever work is without corporate 1993 02:07:53,610 --> 02:07:57,990 interest. And pharmaceutical companies wanting to advertise 1994 02:07:57,990 --> 02:08:02,610 in any kind of corporate funding of this will not work, it has to 1995 02:08:02,610 --> 02:08:06,060 be two men sitting at the table hashing stuff out. And that's 1996 02:08:06,060 --> 02:08:09,870 why we have adopted the value for value model here on mo 1997 02:08:09,870 --> 02:08:16,170 factor that hurry. And I'd like to thank our executive and 1998 02:08:16,170 --> 02:08:19,530 Associate Executive and other producers for episode number, we 1999 02:08:19,530 --> 02:08:22,560 had to 44 Of course, never forget that. Yes, episode number 2000 02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:27,180 44. And again, this is you get out of it, what you put into it 2001 02:08:27,210 --> 02:08:30,030 is a lot of work that goes into this and a lot of time and 2002 02:08:30,030 --> 02:08:33,870 effort. And the only way for it to be sustainable, and for it to 2003 02:08:33,870 --> 02:08:37,350 grow quite honestly. Because who knows, we could take this, you 2004 02:08:37,350 --> 02:08:42,570 know, where we could take us. The sky is the limit Mo. We just 2005 02:08:42,570 --> 02:08:46,680 have to do the work and we'll get there. But we can't do 2006 02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:49,620 without your help. And that's why I'm very pleased to start 2007 02:08:49,620 --> 02:08:53,700 off by thanking Jackie green actually think the Green family 2008 02:08:53,700 --> 02:08:58,980 who came in with the magic numbers 333 33 And a note that 2009 02:08:58,980 --> 02:09:01,650 says great new episode fellas Keep up the good work love from 2010 02:09:01,650 --> 02:09:04,560 the Green family. Is this. Now we know the Green family they've 2011 02:09:04,560 --> 02:09:05,970 donated before have they not? 2012 02:09:06,810 --> 02:09:07,620 I believe so. 2013 02:09:07,710 --> 02:09:11,340 I believe Mr. Green, Mrs. Green have donated separately now it's 2014 02:09:11,340 --> 02:09:13,230 the whole family. I think that's what it Yeah, 2015 02:09:13,290 --> 02:09:15,150 I think sound they're different names. I think that's why I 2016 02:09:15,150 --> 02:09:17,940 don't recognize the name. But I remember the Green family. 2017 02:09:18,090 --> 02:09:22,260 Well, we really appreciate that support. That's fantastic. And 2018 02:09:22,260 --> 02:09:24,630 now you're a top executive producer. We'll put the whole 2019 02:09:24,630 --> 02:09:28,440 family in there just to make it to make it clear. Eric Darian 2020 02:09:28,590 --> 02:09:31,890 checks in was $200. No agenda night here. I heard I've heard 2021 02:09:31,890 --> 02:09:34,740 Adam talking about the show for a while. And at the urging of my 2022 02:09:34,740 --> 02:09:37,980 fellow na listener rod Williams I decided to give it a listen. I 2023 02:09:37,980 --> 02:09:42,930 am so glad I did. Thanks for the insights I cannot get anywhere 2024 02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:48,240 else. That's error to Darien from California. Thank you. Era. 2025 02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:52,830 I'm glad you're glad you huge showed up. Enjoy and 2026 02:09:52,860 --> 02:09:56,670 archive.mo facts.com goes all the way back to episode number 2027 02:09:56,670 --> 02:09:59,970 one and I might want to point out that in exactly one week 2028 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:06,150 From today I think it's going to be one with no less than a week. 2029 02:10:06,870 --> 02:10:11,490 Less than a week July 31 will be our one year anniversary one 2030 02:10:11,490 --> 02:10:15,060 year of Mo facts with Adam curry that went by fast mo 2031 02:10:17,279 --> 02:10:20,189 went by fast but it's been like a slow motion. It's like it's 2032 02:10:20,189 --> 02:10:25,199 weird. It's a weird the time went by fast but like it's made 2033 02:10:25,229 --> 02:10:29,369 every day. Eventful? Yes, I guess it's slow down two days 2034 02:10:29,369 --> 02:10:33,659 but the time when the lapse in time when was huge. Well, if you 2035 02:10:33,659 --> 02:10:36,779 look and I will also want to say thanks for Rod rod Williams as 2036 02:10:36,779 --> 02:10:38,699 well for doing the doing the work. 2037 02:10:40,260 --> 02:10:43,050 Doing the important work. But look at the body. Look at the 2038 02:10:43,050 --> 02:10:47,010 body of work that there has been a lot with it. Well yet 1200 2039 02:10:47,010 --> 02:10:57,150 hours of content or 120 220? No. 1200 1200 is incredible. Yes. 23 2040 02:10:57,150 --> 02:11:00,330 times yeah. Hey, yeah, whatever it is, it's more than 24. It 2041 02:11:00,330 --> 02:11:06,630 sounds like a lot of work. So, and the learning on both sides, 2042 02:11:06,630 --> 02:11:09,990 just just it's been enriched my life. I'm incredibly happy. 2043 02:11:10,050 --> 02:11:11,760 Yeah. Can Can we start 2044 02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:17,010 right here to talk about the pitch in order? How we want to 2045 02:11:17,010 --> 02:11:17,460 do that? 2046 02:11:17,490 --> 02:11:20,760 Yes. Because and I'll give you my immediate input. So we've 2047 02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:24,510 been talking about instituting levels for the value for value 2048 02:11:24,510 --> 02:11:27,240 system, we have to do it. We're following the model that no 2049 02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:32,760 agenda, and no agenda producers birth, and over many years, and 2050 02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:36,930 it works. And so the idea is we have levels and then you receive 2051 02:11:36,930 --> 02:11:41,280 a reward for achieving certain support levels. And with the no 2052 02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:45,390 agenda show, we have Knights and Dames, and they become Knights 2053 02:11:45,390 --> 02:11:48,750 and Dames of the no agenda roundtable. So we were looking 2054 02:11:48,750 --> 02:11:55,560 for an analog here. And I I liked it. A lot of people say 2055 02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:58,770 the same thing, although I'm not really sure it's the right one. 2056 02:11:58,770 --> 02:11:59,910 And specifically, 2057 02:12:00,090 --> 02:12:03,330 I know shooter. Yeah, honestly, every time see when it's kind of 2058 02:12:03,330 --> 02:12:04,080 like, well, 2059 02:12:04,110 --> 02:12:06,990 I'll give you my thoughts. So people say we should have this 2060 02:12:07,020 --> 02:12:12,600 this level be invited to the cookout? I'm like, no, no, no, 2061 02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:16,170 no, that's that that feels wrong. That sounds wrong. It's 2062 02:12:16,170 --> 02:12:20,250 like what are you talking about? It that's it's not the right way 2063 02:12:20,250 --> 02:12:23,670 to go is my feeling. I'm looking forward to hearing your opinion. 2064 02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:29,820 We've said it in jest several times on this show. And other 2065 02:12:29,820 --> 02:12:31,920 times doing the work. 2066 02:12:32,040 --> 02:12:34,110 I think the work is 2067 02:12:34,110 --> 02:12:38,130 there in literally doing. And then the other thing is, when 2068 02:12:38,130 --> 02:12:45,540 you say it to somebody, it'll be Oh, you are and then like so. We 2069 02:12:45,540 --> 02:12:49,260 hit her certainly. And I was looking for a hierarchy of terms 2070 02:12:49,260 --> 02:12:52,650 they use like ally and those kinds of things. So went out 2071 02:12:52,650 --> 02:12:55,860 there. Let's just call out their hell. They call out everything 2072 02:12:56,040 --> 02:12:59,160 you're saying. Anyway, so we'll just call out from them. We're 2073 02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:02,490 doing the work. And we hit a certain level we got to still 2074 02:13:02,490 --> 02:13:06,030 decide the level that your ally and you can say, You know what? 2075 02:13:07,170 --> 02:13:12,660 I am an ally of the Mo Mo facts and Adam curry podcast. You 2076 02:13:12,660 --> 02:13:16,470 know, international podcast so I am an ally and I'm doing the 2077 02:13:16,470 --> 02:13:19,440 word that way. We interracial 2078 02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:21,990 are we intersectional. That's the question. 2079 02:13:23,430 --> 02:13:25,500 I don't know. What are we Adam? 2080 02:13:27,570 --> 02:13:30,960 Well, don't tell anybody what we really are. No, 2081 02:13:31,830 --> 02:13:33,930 put a label. You had to put a label on it. 2082 02:13:34,860 --> 02:13:40,320 Okay, we're back and we're we're salt and pepper. We're ebony and 2083 02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:42,600 ivory? What the hell? What we are? 2084 02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:46,920 Oh, no, but I think doing the work um, because then it's just 2085 02:13:47,010 --> 02:13:51,840 hey, are you doing the work? You do? And I didn't ally and we 2086 02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:57,870 come up with with hierarchy of ally and that kind of thing. But 2087 02:13:57,870 --> 02:14:00,960 once you hit a certain I think once you contribute to the show, 2088 02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:05,190 you're already an ally. Yeah, yeah. You because You already 2089 02:14:05,190 --> 02:14:08,790 done the work? Well, then maybe you become that was just my 2090 02:14:08,790 --> 02:14:09,720 opinion. That was 2091 02:14:10,590 --> 02:14:13,800 okay, we're gonna leave it up to our producers who will have to 2092 02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:16,890 do the work and let us know what they think of levels. I like the 2093 02:14:16,890 --> 02:14:21,960 idea of doing the work. It's so ridiculous, but it's also true. 2094 02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:26,070 It's true. It's 100 But you could not do better you could 2095 02:14:26,070 --> 02:14:30,870 not do the work better than by being a producer and just 2096 02:14:30,900 --> 02:14:34,380 enjoying the converse the conversation that is 2097 02:14:34,410 --> 02:14:35,730 not enjoying it. 2098 02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:38,760 They're studying it they're doing the work 2099 02:14:39,900 --> 02:14:42,330 they're supporting the conversation. That's what 2100 02:14:42,330 --> 02:14:45,060 they're doing right they're bringing note support a give us 2101 02:14:45,060 --> 02:14:48,930 motive become it Yeah, supporting so you can support 2102 02:14:49,260 --> 02:14:51,960 ally supporting some of the most important one of the most 2103 02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:55,320 important conversations of our generation. Oh, are you doing 2104 02:14:55,320 --> 02:14:55,680 the work? 2105 02:14:55,680 --> 02:15:02,760 That's it? Yeah. What are you doing? Worker you Doing alright, 2106 02:15:03,060 --> 02:15:07,200 we move on to Brian Martin with that with 193 90. Interesting 2107 02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:11,010 number Mo, have you, you have expanded my mind and thinking on 2108 02:15:11,010 --> 02:15:13,680 the topic of race and human relations through American 2109 02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:17,310 history, we are in a confusing time devoid of logic and sense, 2110 02:15:17,310 --> 02:15:21,210 I could articulate what I saw as the contradiction, but could not 2111 02:15:21,210 --> 02:15:24,060 elaborate on the forces behind it. Your ability to weave 2112 02:15:24,060 --> 02:15:27,570 historical context into modern events is fascinating. I'm using 2113 02:15:27,570 --> 02:15:30,750 your episodes on white fragility and black ink as an educational 2114 02:15:30,750 --> 02:15:34,440 basis for my son and his girlfriend. Excellent. As we 2115 02:15:34,470 --> 02:15:36,870 close out the summer, they are poised to return to the 2116 02:15:36,870 --> 02:15:39,930 university home where the topics of race and equality will no 2117 02:15:39,930 --> 02:15:43,410 doubt be discussed. I see these two episodes as the beginning of 2118 02:15:43,410 --> 02:15:45,600 what I hope will be an enlightening class and 2119 02:15:45,600 --> 02:15:49,110 discussion. I also plan to investigate Johnson's Great 2120 02:15:49,110 --> 02:15:52,260 Society as strategic move against the rise of communism in 2121 02:15:52,260 --> 02:15:54,900 the black community by hypothesis that came to mind 2122 02:15:54,900 --> 02:15:59,220 while listening to the black ink episode. That's 43 I requests so 2123 02:15:59,220 --> 02:16:03,330 first of all, excellent idea. Get those kids doing the work. 2124 02:16:05,610 --> 02:16:11,040 It will only benefit them this is no doubt. And we think Brian 2125 02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:14,130 and he wants a WUSA for those struggling with their fragility 2126 02:16:14,130 --> 02:16:17,700 and the guilt of it. Brian Martin from Parkland, Florida Of 2127 02:16:17,700 --> 02:16:28,050 course, we gotta WUSA for you Andrew, nice Andrew wealth 12345 2128 02:16:28,080 --> 02:16:32,310 Great number Adam and most are Andrew of the wet drains from no 2129 02:16:32,310 --> 02:16:35,970 agenda world sending my value to mo facts. The most recent black 2130 02:16:35,970 --> 02:16:39,270 ink episode was fantastic and finally pushed me over the ledge 2131 02:16:39,420 --> 02:16:42,900 to show support for the show. Sorry Adam and JCD had been a 2132 02:16:42,900 --> 02:16:46,380 douchebag this project has been great to listen to with its 2133 02:16:46,380 --> 02:16:50,250 relevance to the words current wash cycle. I would also love to 2134 02:16:50,250 --> 02:16:54,690 hear Moe's opinion on mash Touray Is that how you pronounce 2135 02:16:54,690 --> 02:16:58,470 it? Mash Touray with Blackburn's mas okay I've matched to her 2136 02:16:58,470 --> 02:17:01,710 I've seen I've seen mash to re tweeting around give me the give 2137 02:17:01,710 --> 02:17:02,490 me the lowdown Yeah. 2138 02:17:03,630 --> 02:17:08,280 Anybody that's helping us arm ourselves and know our rights. 2139 02:17:08,280 --> 02:17:08,970 I'm all for 2140 02:17:09,869 --> 02:17:15,869 Well, there you go. GBG hashtag EBG hashtag GB that that that 2141 02:17:15,869 --> 02:17:19,349 actually people were all over that they were doing give 2142 02:17:19,349 --> 02:17:22,649 Blackburn's hashtags and stuff people love that on Twitter that 2143 02:17:22,649 --> 02:17:27,119 was fun to watch. I like that. And proud of it actually. Thank 2144 02:17:27,119 --> 02:17:31,859 you Andrew, Justin coil $110.58 to your MO and Adam. Thank you 2145 02:17:31,859 --> 02:17:34,319 so much for the education your conversations with each other 2146 02:17:34,319 --> 02:17:36,989 have brought both my wife and I have listened to every episode 2147 02:17:36,989 --> 02:17:39,599 discuss your topics weekly with our neighbors, friends and co 2148 02:17:39,599 --> 02:17:42,539 workers. That's not a discussion. You're doing the 2149 02:17:42,539 --> 02:17:48,959 work. I would like to give my smokin hot wife Melzi a special 2150 02:17:48,989 --> 02:17:53,429 birthday shout out with a donation in her name of 110 58 2151 02:17:53,429 --> 02:17:59,459 towards her place on the doing the work scale which to be 2152 02:17:59,459 --> 02:18:03,239 determined but yes and you need to keep track of your of your 2153 02:18:03,239 --> 02:18:05,609 support so that we can once we've got that figured out and 2154 02:18:05,609 --> 02:18:08,879 everyone can mail it and let us know. And he has a note here 2155 02:18:08,879 --> 02:18:12,389 says Happy Birthday babe You are my grounding force. I love you. 2156 02:18:13,109 --> 02:18:16,289 That's so sweet. Oh that's nice. And then he also has a nice 2157 02:18:16,289 --> 02:18:20,519 offer as a firearms instructor and police officer for over a 2158 02:18:20,519 --> 02:18:24,509 decade to help us with any training any firearm selection 2159 02:18:24,509 --> 02:18:28,799 anything we want. All we have to do is go to Nashville I'm saying 2160 02:18:28,799 --> 02:18:31,589 sounds like a good family trip to families go to Nashville we 2161 02:18:31,589 --> 02:18:32,759 all shoot some guns up 2162 02:18:33,599 --> 02:18:36,479 oh yeah. More value. 2163 02:18:38,430 --> 02:18:43,050 Justin thank you so much very kind Brandon Shipley, our first 2164 02:18:43,050 --> 02:18:46,290 Associate Executive Producer value for value says love the 2165 02:18:46,290 --> 02:18:50,520 show. Always very insightful. Thank you, Brandon. Sir Scott, 2166 02:18:50,520 --> 02:18:56,340 King of the oops, let me expand this a little bit. I can't I see 2167 02:18:56,340 --> 02:19:01,530 what King, sir Scott Knight of the night surname. There we go. 2168 02:19:01,530 --> 02:19:04,920 $100, Associate Executive Producer mon Adam. Hope you both 2169 02:19:04,920 --> 02:19:07,500 understand what a valuable service you are providing for 2170 02:19:07,500 --> 02:19:12,330 our country and world right now. I'm currently doing the work by 2171 02:19:12,330 --> 02:19:15,270 going back and listening to all of the episodes. Yep, that's 2172 02:19:15,300 --> 02:19:18,840 that is work. But just listen to the last five episodes is not 2173 02:19:18,840 --> 02:19:21,720 only given me a profound new understanding of American Black 2174 02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:25,710 Heritage, history and culture, but also an immunization against 2175 02:19:25,710 --> 02:19:29,460 the insane agendas being pushed on all of us. Your discussions 2176 02:19:29,460 --> 02:19:33,450 confirmed to all of us listeners that we're not going crazy. It's 2177 02:19:33,450 --> 02:19:36,120 just the crazy world we live in right now. And I believe you 2178 02:19:36,120 --> 02:19:40,020 both are helping to unite us all out. I hope so. By the way, some 2179 02:19:40,020 --> 02:19:42,810 very good shows I've watched recently have coincided with 2180 02:19:42,810 --> 02:19:45,210 your podcast and I highly recommend them. There's snow 2181 02:19:45,210 --> 02:19:49,260 fall and kill the messenger both about CIA's influence on the 2182 02:19:49,260 --> 02:19:52,260 drug war in the 80s. And of course, Malcolm X with Denzel 2183 02:19:52,260 --> 02:19:56,910 Washington, and here's my chip into hashtag GBG give blacks 2184 02:19:56,910 --> 02:20:00,540 guns for a seat at the table. In You are indeed on Your waste are 2185 02:20:00,540 --> 02:20:04,080 Scott ed by doing this work. He says Keep up the good work and 2186 02:20:04,080 --> 02:20:06,810 please give me a mo karma. Thank you sir Scott Knight of the 2187 02:20:06,810 --> 02:20:09,600 Knights surname. You got that for sure. Thank you, sir Scott. 2188 02:20:13,860 --> 02:20:18,420 Chef Elvis Rosenberg, always supporting us with $100. No 2189 02:20:18,420 --> 02:20:19,140 notes from the chef 2190 02:20:19,140 --> 02:20:22,860 today. No, no foul shots always look forward to hear from the 2191 02:20:22,860 --> 02:20:24,240 note. I mean, getting a note from the 2192 02:20:24,600 --> 02:20:27,360 chef well let us know if we if we missed it somewhere. And 2193 02:20:27,360 --> 02:20:30,360 thank you very much. Now we have Steve Sims. Hey, guys, love your 2194 02:20:30,360 --> 02:20:33,150 show. Thanks for helping me broaden my thinking I'm sending 2195 02:20:33,150 --> 02:20:38,520 $90.75 which is 33% of my final week of unemployment payments. 2196 02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:42,390 Of Thank you. The rumors are true Florida's about the 2197 02:20:42,390 --> 02:20:45,570 stingiest state in the union. Keep doing what you're doing, 2198 02:20:45,570 --> 02:20:48,870 deduce me if you will, but no chain calls, no karma, or we're 2199 02:20:48,870 --> 02:20:54,300 gonna give you a WUSA, that's our version of us. Thank you 2200 02:20:54,300 --> 02:20:59,400 very much, Steve. Daisy, of the less Left Coast 7777 In the 2201 02:20:59,400 --> 02:21:01,950 morning, Jensen, thank you for your courage, obviously a jump 2202 02:21:01,950 --> 02:21:04,620 from no agenda where I'm a douchebag soon to be corrected. 2203 02:21:04,620 --> 02:21:08,820 Adam. It's alright man. That's all good. And I very much 2204 02:21:08,820 --> 02:21:11,670 appreciate the content. I donated to moe facts first, 2205 02:21:11,670 --> 02:21:15,660 because well, I felt it would matter more. Also, I have fairly 2206 02:21:15,660 --> 02:21:19,800 two minor critiques. First and foremost, I would love access to 2207 02:21:19,800 --> 02:21:22,290 the clips, which again, are valuable and very much worth 2208 02:21:22,290 --> 02:21:26,610 sharing. So if there's any way to make that then I'd be like, 2209 02:21:26,610 --> 02:21:31,500 No, hey, a few episodes back, we started doing this. And I have 2210 02:21:31,500 --> 02:21:35,880 not. It's a little bit more work to go back and put all the clips 2211 02:21:35,880 --> 02:21:36,990 in all the show notes. 2212 02:21:37,020 --> 02:21:38,430 Okay, okay. Okay. 2213 02:21:39,990 --> 02:21:45,930 But the we have the we have done it for the last like, three 2214 02:21:45,930 --> 02:21:47,520 episodes. I think we've put the clips in. 2215 02:21:48,030 --> 02:21:51,150 I think so. So moving forward, we've done Oh, yeah, 2216 02:21:51,150 --> 02:21:53,610 no moving forward. That is absolutely done. And you can 2217 02:21:53,610 --> 02:21:56,190 find all of that you can find all the episode Show Notes by 2218 02:21:56,190 --> 02:22:02,070 going to archive.mo facts.com. So there's a yes. Okay. Second, 2219 02:22:02,070 --> 02:22:06,300 my smartphone is apparently somewhat retarded, who are word, 2220 02:22:06,570 --> 02:22:09,780 and I cannot listen to the show via Google podcast as I do with 2221 02:22:09,780 --> 02:22:12,900 no agenda, and my phone is incapable of keeping track of 2222 02:22:12,900 --> 02:22:16,740 where I am. In a show. Even when downloaded. I would love to know 2223 02:22:16,740 --> 02:22:19,710 what app or medium you gentlemen would recommend for listening 2224 02:22:19,710 --> 02:22:23,100 that provides even decent functionality. Other than my 2225 02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:26,460 issues with dumbass technology, I'll readily admit operator 2226 02:22:26,460 --> 02:22:29,970 error on both counts, I feel more learned with every episode. 2227 02:22:30,270 --> 02:22:33,450 And I'm pleased as punch to help produce this product, keep up 2228 02:22:33,450 --> 02:22:36,450 the good work dudes and helping with keeping the tribes sane 2229 02:22:36,450 --> 02:22:39,390 through all the craziness as Daisy of the Left Coast. Thank 2230 02:22:39,390 --> 02:22:45,030 you, Daisy, I personally I use overcast. Now, that's, that is a 2231 02:22:45,030 --> 02:22:48,570 product that works on the apple. But what's kind of cool about 2232 02:22:48,570 --> 02:22:53,130 podcast is you can just download it directly from our web page. 2233 02:22:53,130 --> 02:22:57,210 And you can put that if you have an Android and any player will 2234 02:22:57,210 --> 02:23:00,120 work. You don't necessarily have to use a podcast player. 2235 02:23:01,650 --> 02:23:04,080 Although it is it is more recommended. The problem is you 2236 02:23:04,080 --> 02:23:11,070 get these Google and Spotify is it you know, it's unreliable, 2237 02:23:11,070 --> 02:23:13,440 whether the work whether you're going to be in there, whether it 2238 02:23:13,440 --> 02:23:17,370 will update. So do yourself a favor, find a podcast app for 2239 02:23:17,370 --> 02:23:19,650 your platform that almost for every single platform. 2240 02:23:20,160 --> 02:23:23,370 And if all else fails, you can find us on YouTube. There you 2241 02:23:23,370 --> 02:23:28,170 go. Mo facts. And please everybody if you could go even 2242 02:23:28,170 --> 02:23:31,620 if you don't listen to it on YouTube, go like the video there 2243 02:23:31,620 --> 02:23:35,400 because it'll help spread the word. There's the algorithm. So 2244 02:23:35,820 --> 02:23:37,350 more work for you to do. 2245 02:23:38,850 --> 02:23:40,380 Yes, thanks. 2246 02:23:40,440 --> 02:23:45,270 Now we go to Jacob Smith. 55 Actually, Jacob Bowman Smith 2247 02:23:45,270 --> 02:23:49,050 5555 Just finished listening to all your wonderful and highly 2248 02:23:49,050 --> 02:23:53,040 educational shows and happened to end the episode 37 We've 2249 02:23:53,040 --> 02:23:58,350 talked about how a Blinken was a dick. I don't know if he said 2250 02:23:58,350 --> 02:24:02,640 that exactly like that. But okay. Years ago, I read Lincoln 2251 02:24:02,640 --> 02:24:04,920 unmasked what you're not supposed to know about this 2252 02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:07,890 honest a by Thomas J. de Lorenzo. When I found out 2253 02:24:07,890 --> 02:24:11,010 Lincoln was a tyrant, who suspended habeas corpus between 2254 02:24:11,010 --> 02:24:16,080 61 and 62, allowing the indefinite detention of citizens 2255 02:24:16,110 --> 02:24:20,040 without trial and how we also wanted to literally abolish 2256 02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:24,120 black people to Liberia, which was started as a settlement by 2257 02:24:24,120 --> 02:24:27,360 the American Colonization Society correct. They believe 2258 02:24:27,360 --> 02:24:29,370 black people would face better chances for freedom and 2259 02:24:29,370 --> 02:24:33,120 prosperity in Africa than in the United States. Since reading 2260 02:24:33,120 --> 02:24:36,930 this book, I have heard no one discussed this topic well Telo 2261 02:24:37,380 --> 02:24:43,350 although I have to say 45 Savage he does he has he does say 2262 02:24:43,350 --> 02:24:46,110 things like well you know Abraham Lincoln you know the 2263 02:24:46,110 --> 02:24:49,290 supposedly he was great Supposedly he was great for 2264 02:24:49,290 --> 02:24:50,700 this. He's hinting at 2265 02:24:50,700 --> 02:24:52,050 that I liked it I noticed that 2266 02:24:53,580 --> 02:24:58,290 you'd like I read up on honesty even. Anyway, for no one 2267 02:24:58,290 --> 02:25:01,350 discussed this topic, let alone show Abe Lincoln was a tyrant 2268 02:25:01,350 --> 02:25:04,410 and a racist. Thank you for making me feel less nutty about 2269 02:25:04,410 --> 02:25:07,680 all these crazy facts, while I wade through the deep waters of 2270 02:25:07,710 --> 02:25:11,790 Uber woke Marxists who surround me at all times at my work. And 2271 02:25:11,790 --> 02:25:15,660 at Trader Joe's here in Superlift. Seattle. Also thanks 2272 02:25:15,660 --> 02:25:18,420 for the house buying karma. My wife Rochelle and I bought a new 2273 02:25:18,420 --> 02:25:22,350 house in North Seattle that had no competing offer. Yes, Mo 2274 02:25:22,350 --> 02:25:26,310 karma works. That's a good story. Very happy to hear that. 2275 02:25:26,310 --> 02:25:30,480 Thank you. Thank you for sending that in. Jacob Brian Rogers $55 2276 02:25:30,480 --> 02:25:33,480 a mo and Adam, please accept my double nickel donation as I'm 2277 02:25:33,480 --> 02:25:36,060 trying to put together a hot streak of consecutive shows with 2278 02:25:36,060 --> 02:25:40,020 the contribution. Excellent. You guys are the best one two punch 2279 02:25:40,020 --> 02:25:47,280 since Karl Malone and John Stockton. Karl Malone, the 2280 02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:47,970 mailman. 2281 02:25:48,869 --> 02:25:51,719 Then the mailman. Downtown 2282 02:25:51,750 --> 02:25:55,650 T I know something I know some things. I'd also like to make a 2283 02:25:55,650 --> 02:26:00,780 request for a West Side gun. Cancel cannon for both Steven 2284 02:26:00,780 --> 02:26:04,590 Jackson and Dwayne Wade for supporting anti semitism. 2285 02:26:05,370 --> 02:26:08,190 Unfortunately there shill of a commissioner Adam Silver won't 2286 02:26:08,190 --> 02:26:12,450 say anything about it. Keep up the awesome work. Mo educate me. 2287 02:26:14,130 --> 02:26:19,110 Ah, so I think this is in defense of Nick Cannon. They 2288 02:26:19,110 --> 02:26:22,950 came out and kind of threw him under the bus. Oh, and didn't 2289 02:26:22,950 --> 02:26:26,940 back him. Even though they're supposed to be super woke. So I 2290 02:26:26,940 --> 02:26:30,840 think that's what he's talking about. No, actually, they 2291 02:26:30,840 --> 02:26:34,860 supported Nick Cannon. But then they had to backtrack. I know 2292 02:26:34,860 --> 02:26:37,650 Stephen Jackson did because he was like, I don't want no parts 2293 02:26:37,650 --> 02:26:41,040 of that. So he originally came out supported Nick Cannon but 2294 02:26:41,040 --> 02:26:42,720 then he came here to walk it back. 2295 02:26:42,810 --> 02:26:45,540 Well, I'm sorry. We'll have none of that. Here's a cancel cannon 2296 02:26:49,380 --> 02:26:49,950 There you go. 2297 02:26:50,039 --> 02:26:55,289 Thank you very much, Brian. Robert Klein 5433 Your shows are 2298 02:26:55,289 --> 02:26:58,229 fascinating. He says you and the pod father are killing it 2299 02:26:58,529 --> 02:27:02,879 started with Jerry found no agenda than found mo facts yes a 2300 02:27:02,879 --> 02:27:08,549 rare brought them up rownum Oh donation. Yes. They are out 2301 02:27:08,549 --> 02:27:11,429 there in the wild. You start with Rogen. Go to no agenda, Mo 2302 02:27:11,429 --> 02:27:14,249 facts and support them all. Thank you for the amazing work 2303 02:27:14,249 --> 02:27:16,919 and have a wonderful weekend. Thank you, Robert Klein, Derek 2304 02:27:16,919 --> 02:27:22,679 Skol, Skol, offski $60, we thank you for that Karl Schneider $50 2305 02:27:22,679 --> 02:27:25,979 Raleigh Hawk $50 and has a note the show just keeps getting 2306 02:27:25,979 --> 02:27:29,219 better keep it up, Baronet and Black Knights are lineman of the 2307 02:27:29,219 --> 02:27:32,219 net, and our final Associate Executive Producer for episode 2308 02:27:32,219 --> 02:27:36,599 44. Vincent rectly with $50 and says thank you for making me 2309 02:27:36,599 --> 02:27:39,029 think outside the box. Very nice. 2310 02:27:39,060 --> 02:27:41,820 And that's my guy. I know him personally. That's my guy. 2311 02:27:41,850 --> 02:27:43,860 Vincent. Oh, cool. Yes. 2312 02:27:44,220 --> 02:27:49,530 All right. Another soul saved. Brother mo another one saved. 2313 02:27:50,070 --> 02:27:54,060 John Taylor sends $40 to support the show and says this is for 2314 02:27:54,060 --> 02:27:57,120 enlightenment and we thank you for that John. Then Carolyn 2315 02:27:57,120 --> 02:28:00,330 Derenberger. Or Missy is a dear embarrass maybe isn't me she 2316 02:28:00,330 --> 02:28:03,690 might be Dutch has a longer note here. Let's take a look at your 2317 02:28:03,690 --> 02:28:06,090 mon Adam, thank you for your podcast helped me understand 2318 02:28:06,090 --> 02:28:09,600 American. Oh yes, this is good from outside the United States. 2319 02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:12,510 These things are important. helped me understand American 2320 02:28:12,510 --> 02:28:15,630 black history and culture better. If only I only started 2321 02:28:15,630 --> 02:28:18,000 listening a couple of weeks ago after being hit in the mouth by 2322 02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:21,390 Jacobian Dame with the doomsday deniers after he met at a 2323 02:28:21,390 --> 02:28:24,660 protest rally of the yellow vests, the fatal crashes that's 2324 02:28:24,660 --> 02:28:28,980 in the Netherlands in December of 2018. She advised me to start 2325 02:28:28,980 --> 02:28:33,930 listening to the no agenda show. And I finally dove in. I'm 57 2326 02:28:33,930 --> 02:28:36,510 from the Netherlands. Unfortunately now ill with 2327 02:28:36,510 --> 02:28:39,930 Crohn's disease and on 100% disability but not complaining. 2328 02:28:40,260 --> 02:28:44,370 And I lived in Chicago in 8283. With a liberal Jewish family in 2329 02:28:44,370 --> 02:28:46,830 the beautiful University of Chicago neighborhood. That is a 2330 02:28:46,830 --> 02:28:50,370 nice area. The Jewish community welcomed me with open arms in 2331 02:28:50,370 --> 02:28:54,090 their myths and even though I was raised Dutch Reformed at a 2332 02:28:54,090 --> 02:28:57,660 wonderful time there and luckily didn't encounter anti any anti 2333 02:28:57,660 --> 02:29:01,800 semitism. The south side of the city however, was a no go zone. 2334 02:29:01,800 --> 02:29:04,710 It was very impoverished with boarded up houses lots of crime 2335 02:29:04,710 --> 02:29:07,230 and dangerous to drive through and also for the people living 2336 02:29:07,230 --> 02:29:10,140 there, mostly blacks and Hispanics. Would you today 2337 02:29:10,140 --> 02:29:15,630 address them as a DOS and Latinos? Well, I think there's 2338 02:29:16,110 --> 02:29:18,330 there's going to be a Dawson there's going to be a lot more 2339 02:29:18,330 --> 02:29:21,720 besides just Latinos or Latinx there's gonna be all kinds of 2340 02:29:21,720 --> 02:29:22,680 people there now. 2341 02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:23,490 Right? 2342 02:29:24,060 --> 02:29:30,300 I mean, Jamaicans you name it, it's all in there. With the 2343 02:29:30,300 --> 02:29:32,700 election of the first black mayor, Democrat Harold 2344 02:29:32,700 --> 02:29:35,400 Washington, there was hope for a better future. Now. 38 years 2345 02:29:35,400 --> 02:29:38,430 later, the black on black crime looks like a civil war. And it's 2346 02:29:38,430 --> 02:29:41,160 heartbreaking for me to read about my heart goes out to all 2347 02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:43,860 the women who lose their men, children and family to this 2348 02:29:43,860 --> 02:29:47,400 absurd violence. Oh, can you please explain why it's still so 2349 02:29:47,400 --> 02:29:50,850 bad in these big cities? Did the city officials Democrats take 2350 02:29:50,850 --> 02:29:54,090 all the aid money to enrich themselves and give jobs for 2351 02:29:54,090 --> 02:29:56,880 their own family members instead of improving the neighborhood? 2352 02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:00,840 What episode did we have Bob Woodson on No, I mean this this 2353 02:30:00,840 --> 02:30:01,170 kind of 2354 02:30:01,170 --> 02:30:06,840 was three or four episodes ago. Yeah, I'm gonna say maybe 30 out 2355 02:30:06,840 --> 02:30:11,640 of 40. And well, they did give them money to me nepotism to 2356 02:30:11,640 --> 02:30:14,490 their family to help them, but they don't want to fix the 2357 02:30:14,490 --> 02:30:18,660 system. If you fix the system, you put yourself out of a job. 2358 02:30:19,050 --> 02:30:21,360 So I'm asked that that's the whole point. And I want to say, 2359 02:30:21,960 --> 02:30:24,840 someone wrote me a letter about Chicago and they were telling 2360 02:30:24,840 --> 02:30:27,240 me, I'm gonna I'm gonna take their word for it. There was 2361 02:30:27,240 --> 02:30:30,450 like, the all the shooting happens online, mainly two city 2362 02:30:30,450 --> 02:30:35,400 blocks. And that's it. So it's kind of like Hamsterdam on the 2363 02:30:35,400 --> 02:30:39,030 wire, like they Chicago kind of lets them you could kill on the 2364 02:30:39,030 --> 02:30:43,410 streets as long as you don't. The rest of the city. So yeah, 2365 02:30:43,410 --> 02:30:48,060 they allow that given to quote, The Baltimore where Baltimore 2366 02:30:48,060 --> 02:30:51,570 mayor, they given respects to riot pretty much so they're 2367 02:30:51,570 --> 02:30:55,110 given free rein just to insert whoever they want to on those 2368 02:30:55,110 --> 02:30:59,070 poor city blocks in New Orleans. They keep it out of, you know, 2369 02:30:59,070 --> 02:31:00,630 the good, taxpaying neighborhood. 2370 02:31:02,010 --> 02:31:04,710 That's, that's a good explanation. It's episode 40, 2371 02:31:04,710 --> 02:31:08,220 where we brought in Bob Woodson now. Yeah, okay. Okay. Carolyn 2372 02:31:08,220 --> 02:31:10,920 has been, has been listening to the show from the beginning. 2373 02:31:10,920 --> 02:31:15,210 She's at number four now. So you got a couple more to go. And she 2374 02:31:15,210 --> 02:31:18,000 says she recognize a story from no man about the house. This is 2375 02:31:18,000 --> 02:31:20,940 interesting. Me and my brother, were raised by single mom with 2376 02:31:20,940 --> 02:31:23,880 psychiatric disorders and we lived on welfare. We my mother 2377 02:31:23,880 --> 02:31:26,700 had a new friend he could not live with us, or the benefits 2378 02:31:26,700 --> 02:31:30,180 would stop social services did check our house more than once. 2379 02:31:30,480 --> 02:31:34,170 Bizarre to hear the same policies existed decades before 2380 02:31:34,170 --> 02:31:38,910 on the entire other side of the world. Maybe not by mistake. And 2381 02:31:38,910 --> 02:31:44,370 we're starting to start thinking well, we always know who's gonna 2382 02:31:44,370 --> 02:31:49,950 go first. Pay attention to your black friends. Like okay, 2383 02:31:50,400 --> 02:31:55,770 Carolyn, thank you so much. Can to potty Lea. $24.07 a moment, 2384 02:31:55,770 --> 02:31:59,850 Adam, this is my rownum Oh, contribution. I become a regular 2385 02:31:59,850 --> 02:32:02,130 listener of the show. And I've been trying to catch up with all 2386 02:32:02,130 --> 02:32:04,860 the episodes and join the learning, enjoying and learning 2387 02:32:04,860 --> 02:32:07,380 a lot from the show. And the last episode blank cake was the 2388 02:32:07,380 --> 02:32:10,440 best I've heard so far. Keep up the great work. Well, thank you 2389 02:32:10,440 --> 02:32:15,390 very much. Clinton. $23 and says it right there. I'm doing the 2390 02:32:15,390 --> 02:32:20,250 work. Katherine, Paula androni $20 Thank you for that no note, 2391 02:32:20,430 --> 02:32:24,420 Uri Weber 1974. Thanks for helping my continued re 2392 02:32:24,420 --> 02:32:27,960 education. I work at a member run cooperative grocery store 2393 02:32:27,960 --> 02:32:30,390 and the struggle for racial equality came in the form of 2394 02:32:30,390 --> 02:32:34,200 union organization organizing. There's not too many people who 2395 02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:37,470 I can share this with their but I'm picking a few curious co 2396 02:32:37,470 --> 02:32:41,340 workers to help enlighten thanks again, Yuri and Brooklyn URI 2397 02:32:41,610 --> 02:32:45,870 that is doing the work. Thank you. Outstanding. Sasha right. 2398 02:32:45,870 --> 02:32:49,080 $16 says hello Mo and Adam I was thinking about what to call the 2399 02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:52,350 MO fax producers tribe. And I want to share an idea What if we 2400 02:32:52,350 --> 02:32:55,770 call it the table of truth instead of the Knights and Dames 2401 02:32:55,770 --> 02:33:00,120 we call ourselves guardians. Oh, that's also interesting. Just an 2402 02:33:00,120 --> 02:33:03,270 idea, but it seems fitting for a show such as this. I'm a new mom 2403 02:33:03,270 --> 02:33:06,480 to a beautiful five month old baby girl living in Western 2404 02:33:06,480 --> 02:33:09,270 Oregon. So we've been very isolated due to COVID 19 and all 2405 02:33:09,270 --> 02:33:12,300 the craziness going on Portland. No kidding. Y'all have given me 2406 02:33:12,300 --> 02:33:15,390 a connection to the outside world. And it really helped keep 2407 02:33:15,390 --> 02:33:19,170 this Mama's mind working. Thank you for all you both do. And God 2408 02:33:19,170 --> 02:33:22,500 bless you both. I'd love to get some mo karma if possible. Yes, 2409 02:33:22,500 --> 02:33:26,400 I should and thank you and what better way then you know this 2410 02:33:26,400 --> 02:33:29,130 and this this kind of stuff when you play stuff around your kid. 2411 02:33:29,310 --> 02:33:33,180 It matters. Really does they pick stuff up even that young 2412 02:33:33,180 --> 02:33:41,130 and we got some more karma for you winding it up here we've got 2413 02:33:41,130 --> 02:33:44,040 Andrew better $15 value for value. Thank you for your 2414 02:33:44,040 --> 02:33:48,270 courage. 40 year old white guy given something tangible and 2415 02:33:48,270 --> 02:33:52,410 since we only have a few left, we don't have to jumble the 2416 02:33:52,440 --> 02:33:56,010 numbers I don't think for under 10 Today mo I think we'll just 2417 02:33:56,040 --> 02:34:00,570 read through them as we got $10 from center loft with no note, a 2418 02:34:00,570 --> 02:34:05,430 James Holly $10 and the cancel cannon have me laughing out loud 2419 02:34:05,430 --> 02:34:13,860 mo karma please. John also supports us with $10 says thank 2420 02:34:13,860 --> 02:34:16,560 you for the black ink episode, William Foreman comes in with 2421 02:34:16,560 --> 02:34:20,820 five Terry Keller with 411. And finally, John Fletcher, the 2422 02:34:20,820 --> 02:34:25,530 Screamer of the no agenda show $3.33 He says I have to donate 2423 02:34:25,530 --> 02:34:28,410 to the show. And to show my support for this kick ass and 2424 02:34:28,410 --> 02:34:31,500 valuable podcast. I wish it could be more. That's the thing 2425 02:34:31,500 --> 02:34:36,840 about value. Fletch value was very individualistic, and we 2426 02:34:36,840 --> 02:34:40,050 appreciate all the value that people receive from the show and 2427 02:34:40,080 --> 02:34:44,700 how they return that through our value for value. Model is 2428 02:34:44,730 --> 02:34:48,570 incredibly encouraging. Thank you so much for that. And thank 2429 02:34:48,570 --> 02:34:51,900 you all for doing the work. Please support us by going to mo 2430 02:34:51,900 --> 02:34:56,670 facts.com. Or you can go directly to our donation page mo 2431 02:34:56,670 --> 02:35:02,460 fund me.com mou fu nd me.com And thank you to all these great 2432 02:35:02,460 --> 02:35:06,780 producers for producing and doing the work for episode 44. 2433 02:35:09,090 --> 02:35:13,710 As I said before, Brock Obama received the most friendly 2434 02:35:13,710 --> 02:35:20,370 coverage and even downright ignoring case stories that could 2435 02:35:20,370 --> 02:35:25,110 have been damaged to him. And I have a couple of examples of 2436 02:35:25,110 --> 02:35:30,090 this in the next couple of sets of clips. Okay, um, I guess the 2437 02:35:30,090 --> 02:35:32,640 first one, let's just go ahead and hop in Malia gets an 2438 02:35:32,640 --> 02:35:33,330 internship. 2439 02:35:34,260 --> 02:35:37,530 Sadly, the Obamas have officially moved out of the 2440 02:35:37,530 --> 02:35:41,160 White House after eight years of incredible leadership. The most 2441 02:35:41,160 --> 02:35:44,700 impactful first family we've seen in years is preparing to 2442 02:35:44,700 --> 02:35:48,270 transition into life outside of the office, and that includes 2443 02:35:48,270 --> 02:35:51,480 the girls to overnight news broke that Barack and Michelle's 2444 02:35:51,510 --> 02:35:55,950 oldest daughter Malia has just declared a major internship with 2445 02:35:55,950 --> 02:35:59,760 famed Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein after the family 2446 02:35:59,760 --> 02:36:03,090 finishes vacationing in Palm Springs. And before Malia heads 2447 02:36:03,090 --> 02:36:05,760 off to her freshman year at Harvard, she will spend some 2448 02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:09,030 time right here in New York City, learning all about what 2449 02:36:09,030 --> 02:36:12,600 independent film has to offer. Harvey Weinstein and his brother 2450 02:36:12,600 --> 02:36:15,990 Bob, who raise money for the Obama campaign have one of the 2451 02:36:15,990 --> 02:36:19,080 most successful independent film companies in the world. Their 2452 02:36:19,080 --> 02:36:22,590 credits include Shakespeare in Love The King's Speech, and most 2453 02:36:22,590 --> 02:36:26,340 recently, Jay Z's new series time the Kalief Browder story, 2454 02:36:26,370 --> 02:36:30,090 so it's safe to say that Malia will be in good hands. We are 2455 02:36:30,090 --> 02:36:33,270 saddened by their inevitable egg exit from the White House, it 2456 02:36:33,270 --> 02:36:36,630 will be awesome to cheer on the Obamas when they have half the 2457 02:36:36,630 --> 02:36:39,720 stress and double the freedom to accomplish anything they can 2458 02:36:39,720 --> 02:36:39,930 dream. 2459 02:36:40,650 --> 02:36:43,260 I don't think we need to even say anything about that. I think 2460 02:36:44,460 --> 02:36:46,230 story speaks for itself. 2461 02:36:47,940 --> 02:36:50,490 Have you heard of this before? I mean, my 2462 02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:56,760 I recall one story quite a while back that that I didn't that she 2463 02:36:56,760 --> 02:37:01,980 was going to work there or something but it when me too 2464 02:37:01,980 --> 02:37:05,370 happened? No, that was not brought up. 2465 02:37:06,450 --> 02:37:11,970 Isn't there 16 individual in the independent intelligence 2466 02:37:12,000 --> 02:37:16,650 agencies. behest of the President, the President and I'm 2467 02:37:16,650 --> 02:37:18,360 sending my daughter to work somewhere. 2468 02:37:19,050 --> 02:37:21,840 Trust me, you might check it out first. 2469 02:37:22,920 --> 02:37:28,080 What is this guy Harvey all about? Hey, in as is known as it 2470 02:37:28,080 --> 02:37:33,030 was Oprah secret in Hollywood that he was hansy hit at? I 2471 02:37:33,030 --> 02:37:35,220 mean, at best or at worst, however you want to put it 2472 02:37:35,220 --> 02:37:37,260 there? Yeah, this is not 2473 02:37:39,540 --> 02:37:42,180 this is not the guy. No, wow. 2474 02:37:42,330 --> 02:37:44,040 She's gonna be in good hands. 2475 02:37:44,370 --> 02:37:48,390 Well, you know that. You know, I always stick to the to the rumor 2476 02:37:48,390 --> 02:37:53,610 that both the Obama kids are not Brock's kids. One is Stevie 2477 02:37:53,610 --> 02:37:56,190 Wonder's kid and the other one is Scottie. Pippins. Kid. That's 2478 02:37:56,190 --> 02:37:58,020 what I've always said that. 2479 02:37:58,560 --> 02:38:03,600 Wherever you see the pictures of the two. If you see the pictures 2480 02:38:03,600 --> 02:38:07,410 of the two people that he apparently posed to be their 2481 02:38:07,410 --> 02:38:12,210 biological parents. Yeah, no, it's very damning. It's very 2482 02:38:12,240 --> 02:38:16,080 it's very damning. But I'm not gonna dabble in those kinds of 2483 02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:18,990 conspiracies, cuz I'm gonna say my keep my powder dry for other 2484 02:38:18,990 --> 02:38:25,350 things. Um, but your daughter going to work for Harvey 2485 02:38:25,350 --> 02:38:28,650 Weinstein. And this has to be 2016. Yeah, there was already 2486 02:38:28,650 --> 02:38:32,520 rumblings. She's about Harvey and 16. Right? 2487 02:38:33,900 --> 02:38:36,690 Yeah. Oh, man. Can you believe that? 2488 02:38:37,529 --> 02:38:41,249 But they let you know they're disgusted by the behavior 2489 02:38:41,279 --> 02:38:43,049 behavior of Harvey Weinstein. 2490 02:38:43,110 --> 02:38:45,390 President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama say they are 2491 02:38:45,390 --> 02:38:48,270 quote disgusted by the behavior of Harvey Weinstein who was 2492 02:38:48,270 --> 02:38:51,690 accused of sexual assault and raping several women. A portion 2493 02:38:51,690 --> 02:38:53,880 of their joint statement says Michelle and I have been 2494 02:38:53,880 --> 02:38:57,060 disgusted by the recent reports about Harvey Weinstein. Any man 2495 02:38:57,060 --> 02:38:59,610 who demeans and degrades women in such fashion needs to be 2496 02:38:59,610 --> 02:39:03,930 condemned and held accountable regardless of wealth or status. 2497 02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:06,300 They also say that we should celebrate the courage of women 2498 02:39:06,300 --> 02:39:09,420 who have come forward to tell these painful stories. And we 2499 02:39:09,420 --> 02:39:12,420 all need to build a culture including by empowering our 2500 02:39:12,420 --> 02:39:15,390 girls and teaching our boys decency and respect so we can 2501 02:39:15,390 --> 02:39:18,870 make such behavior less prevalent in the future. Their 2502 02:39:18,870 --> 02:39:21,210 statement comes after critics accused the first couple of 2503 02:39:21,210 --> 02:39:23,730 staying quiet about the Weinstein allegations was 2504 02:39:23,730 --> 02:39:27,120 dropped last week in a report in The New York Times. And then of 2505 02:39:27,120 --> 02:39:29,610 course, yesterday, The New Yorker dropped an even more 2506 02:39:29,610 --> 02:39:32,670 explosive piece as well. Weinstein has been a major 2507 02:39:32,670 --> 02:39:36,900 democratic donor. In 2012. He contributed $71,000 to Obama's 2508 02:39:36,900 --> 02:39:40,170 campaign, their oldest daughter Malia recently intern at the 2509 02:39:40,170 --> 02:39:43,260 ones that Weinstein Company. Weinstein was also a prominent 2510 02:39:43,260 --> 02:39:46,050 supporter of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. She also 2511 02:39:46,050 --> 02:39:47,850 finally released a statement saying she was shocked and 2512 02:39:47,850 --> 02:39:50,850 appalled by the revelations said the behavior cannot be 2513 02:39:50,850 --> 02:39:51,540 tolerated. 2514 02:39:52,020 --> 02:39:56,910 Here is how a normal father would respond somewhere between 2515 02:39:56,940 --> 02:40:02,700 this report 2016 And today 20 May 20, at some point, maybe by 2516 02:40:02,700 --> 02:40:07,890 myself, maybe with my wife, I'd say, I was so shocked when I 2517 02:40:07,890 --> 02:40:12,060 learned this. And I could not believe that my daughter had 2518 02:40:12,060 --> 02:40:17,850 been impossible danger. You would have to say something 2519 02:40:17,850 --> 02:40:21,120 about this. But no, yeah. And they 2520 02:40:21,510 --> 02:40:25,290 acted like they didn't know what then Michelle says we need to 2521 02:40:25,290 --> 02:40:29,610 believe all women and their stories. Why didn't they listen 2522 02:40:29,610 --> 02:40:31,590 to the former White House photographer? 2523 02:40:32,040 --> 02:40:34,500 He threw a lot of people come and go at the White House as 2524 02:40:34,500 --> 02:40:38,100 well. What did you think for instance, when Harvey Weinstein 2525 02:40:38,100 --> 02:40:38,550 visited? 2526 02:40:40,590 --> 02:40:44,100 There was a very, very tough moment my entire body was 2527 02:40:44,100 --> 02:40:47,760 screaming. I'm not sure if Australian viewers are aware. 2528 02:40:47,760 --> 02:40:51,420 But shortly after the New York Times article last year, I came 2529 02:40:51,420 --> 02:40:54,870 forward and told my story of Harvey Weinstein and my 2530 02:40:54,870 --> 02:40:58,200 knowledge of Him in the film business. And when he came to 2531 02:40:58,200 --> 02:41:03,090 the White House with Michelle Obama for a Broadway Tribute 2532 02:41:04,560 --> 02:41:08,520 Event, I was my body was screaming inside and I wanted to 2533 02:41:08,520 --> 02:41:14,070 shake Michelle and go no, no, no, don't do this. I've got to 2534 02:41:14,070 --> 02:41:14,580 know. 2535 02:41:15,780 --> 02:41:18,390 Me, I said no. Did you ever you certainly talk about how your 2536 02:41:18,390 --> 02:41:21,480 skin crawled when you saw Harvey Weinstein walking with Michelle 2537 02:41:21,480 --> 02:41:24,810 Obama? Did you ever were you ever able to warn them about the 2538 02:41:24,840 --> 02:41:26,100 the sort of company they were keeping? 2539 02:41:27,060 --> 02:41:30,600 Actually, they came up recently with one of her aides. I said to 2540 02:41:30,630 --> 02:41:33,240 I said to them just recently up to the Michelle Obama, they 2541 02:41:33,240 --> 02:41:36,000 contacted me, I said, you know, I tried to warn Michelle and 2542 02:41:36,000 --> 02:41:39,810 they said, well, when? When and how did you do that? Then I 2543 02:41:39,810 --> 02:41:44,700 said, I spoke to her first lady press office, both in the east 2544 02:41:44,700 --> 02:41:48,090 wing. And I spoke to President Barack Obama's office on the 2545 02:41:48,090 --> 02:41:53,940 west when and I don't know why those messages didn't get to 2546 02:41:53,940 --> 02:41:58,920 them directly. But I was very surprised and disheartened that 2547 02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:01,680 Harvey Weinstein was there. I thought it was hypocritical of 2548 02:42:01,680 --> 02:42:04,740 the first lady at the time. I guess she didn't know what 2549 02:42:04,770 --> 02:42:09,390 everyone else knew. And I was very concerned when, of course, 2550 02:42:10,050 --> 02:42:15,420 as it started, Malia started interning at, at Miramax so that 2551 02:42:15,420 --> 02:42:16,500 the Weinstein Company 2552 02:42:19,200 --> 02:42:23,700 I had never heard this, this woman, this is great. And I've 2553 02:42:23,700 --> 02:42:27,090 done a lot of work on researching these people. That's 2554 02:42:27,090 --> 02:42:31,590 fantastic. Well, of course, this all leads into some of my 2555 02:42:31,590 --> 02:42:32,790 favorite topics. 2556 02:42:33,630 --> 02:42:39,630 And then the two things that distract me is just you can't 2557 02:42:39,630 --> 02:42:46,410 ignore these two facts. One, Barack Obama being the leader of 2558 02:42:46,410 --> 02:42:50,280 the free world, you have all this access to all these 2559 02:42:50,280 --> 02:42:55,050 intelligence agencies. You can't have my look into Harvey. And 2560 02:42:55,050 --> 02:43:01,350 then your wife is BFFs with Oprah, who has the intelligence, 2561 02:43:02,490 --> 02:43:07,050 entertainments intelligence agencies, I mean, TMZ and I'm 2562 02:43:07,050 --> 02:43:11,460 sure she has, she has most everywhere. Oh, you can just 2563 02:43:11,460 --> 02:43:16,800 pick up the phone and say, hey, oh, what's up? Yeah. Yeah, 2564 02:43:17,250 --> 02:43:19,470 Harvey. What's up with him? How is he? 2565 02:43:19,680 --> 02:43:22,920 Yeah, I'm checking on behalf of my daughter who I love so much. 2566 02:43:22,920 --> 02:43:26,040 And I'm gonna send her off to intern. What do you think? Oh? 2567 02:43:27,690 --> 02:43:32,880 And why didn't Oh, say hey, Michelle. I don't really want to 2568 02:43:32,880 --> 02:43:36,780 stay in that thing. But you might want to let her intern 2569 02:43:36,780 --> 02:43:38,490 have it for foundation. 2570 02:43:39,570 --> 02:43:41,610 USA ID anything but 2571 02:43:44,220 --> 02:43:48,210 that conversation never had. This is? Yeah, that's, that's 2572 02:43:48,210 --> 02:43:51,000 awesome. I'll talk about in the media. And then you have these 2573 02:43:51,000 --> 02:43:56,460 women coming forward today want her and yeah, it was well known 2574 02:43:56,460 --> 02:44:01,110 news, but nobody reports on that. Now this next topic, I 2575 02:44:01,110 --> 02:44:06,630 wrestled with it. I was in and it was out. It was in it. It was 2576 02:44:06,630 --> 02:44:08,100 out. Well. I was like, 2577 02:44:08,850 --> 02:44:13,260 before you lead into the topic. I'm glad you left it in. Because 2578 02:44:13,260 --> 02:44:17,610 I worked with this person on her own show in New York when she 2579 02:44:17,610 --> 02:44:22,980 was on Channel Five. But it was syndicated nationally. I really 2580 02:44:22,980 --> 02:44:25,380 had an affection for her. I think we got along 2581 02:44:25,410 --> 02:44:34,560 professionally extremely well. And she had two modes. Really 2582 02:44:34,560 --> 02:44:38,460 three with me. She turned on an extra kind of like charm, which 2583 02:44:38,460 --> 02:44:41,220 I which was very endearing. And I played right into that. Of 2584 02:44:41,220 --> 02:44:46,200 course she's older than I was. But if she was saying something 2585 02:44:46,200 --> 02:44:51,300 truthful to you, like in between a commercial break? She had she 2586 02:44:51,300 --> 02:44:54,540 meant it. She was very, very straight laced. I'm talking 2587 02:44:54,540 --> 02:44:56,280 about Joan Rivers. Take it from there. 2588 02:44:57,540 --> 02:44:58,800 Now you take it from here. 2589 02:44:59,670 --> 02:45:04,980 Okay. And so So Joe No no, it's good 2590 02:45:05,340 --> 02:45:09,000 hardware like okay, this is what I was talking about about that 2591 02:45:09,000 --> 02:45:11,250 hater. I mean that hater cloud 2592 02:45:12,450 --> 02:45:15,000 because I've done this many times so people can hate me for 2593 02:45:15,000 --> 02:45:19,890 this if they want it's not a problem, right. So Joan Rivers 2594 02:45:19,890 --> 02:45:26,040 was was asked, and she was very in tune with if there is such a 2595 02:45:26,040 --> 02:45:30,150 thing, the gay community, she's been around she's showbusiness, 2596 02:45:30,180 --> 02:45:36,000 the theater, television, movies, it's very, very, very long 2597 02:45:36,000 --> 02:45:40,230 history, very connected woman. And also very intuitive because 2598 02:45:40,230 --> 02:45:42,120 she went through a lot of tragedy, and she could feel 2599 02:45:42,120 --> 02:45:44,190 people understand where they were coming from, she turned 2600 02:45:44,190 --> 02:45:46,380 everything into a joke. And that's how she dealt with her 2601 02:45:46,380 --> 02:45:54,090 life, I think. But there was a rumor, and I can't honestly 2602 02:45:54,090 --> 02:45:54,840 remember where 2603 02:45:56,610 --> 02:46:01,290 you just had to play. It just says this. I'm not shying away 2604 02:46:01,290 --> 02:46:04,620 from it. I'm this. Well, that would there was definitely I 2605 02:46:04,620 --> 02:46:07,440 believe she said it and then I can't believe it was not 2606 02:46:07,440 --> 02:46:09,030 covered. That's what I'm saying. 2607 02:46:09,060 --> 02:46:12,510 So well. I think it was it was was it for Entertainment Tonight 2608 02:46:12,510 --> 02:46:13,500 or or who 2609 02:46:14,190 --> 02:46:17,640 was at or a team's? I think teams TMZ might not aired it, I 2610 02:46:17,640 --> 02:46:18,390 think. Yeah. 2611 02:46:18,600 --> 02:46:22,140 And I think Howard Stern played it a lot, which, which is 2612 02:46:22,140 --> 02:46:25,200 probably where I heard it first. But these rumors have been 2613 02:46:25,200 --> 02:46:28,770 around for quite a while. And when Joan Rivers said this, to 2614 02:46:28,770 --> 02:46:32,760 me, it meant something more than to the average person because I 2615 02:46:32,760 --> 02:46:36,030 knew that this was Joan in not joking mode. 2616 02:46:36,870 --> 02:46:37,350 And this wherever 2617 02:46:38,670 --> 02:46:41,220 you made you made a ton of news officiating the wedding in New 2618 02:46:41,220 --> 02:46:41,940 York yesterday. Is 2619 02:46:41,940 --> 02:46:44,400 this like, is this like a new cottage career? 2620 02:46:46,740 --> 02:46:48,810 I should do very well, because I don't show and 2621 02:46:48,810 --> 02:46:50,850 do you think that the country will see the first the United 2622 02:46:50,850 --> 02:46:52,800 States to see the first gay president or the first woman 2623 02:46:52,800 --> 02:46:53,190 president 2624 02:46:53,760 --> 02:47:02,700 Obama. So let's just show is a trend. I'm sorry. She's a white, 2625 02:47:03,870 --> 02:47:05,910 transgender, we own them. 2626 02:47:05,940 --> 02:47:06,720 Oh my gosh. 2627 02:47:10,770 --> 02:47:14,430 Now she had just officiated, I think the the, the state or the 2628 02:47:14,430 --> 02:47:16,590 city's first same sex marriage? 2629 02:47:17,160 --> 02:47:20,040 Yeah, I got I got a clip on that too, just to support that she's 2630 02:47:20,040 --> 02:47:27,390 not some homophobe or saying it because that's where they should 2631 02:47:27,390 --> 02:47:29,850 be paying it. When you say something against and you're 2632 02:47:29,850 --> 02:47:36,990 saying the great Barry. But what struck me is the silence around 2633 02:47:36,990 --> 02:47:41,370 new story. It was not. We've saw the email where people were 2634 02:47:41,370 --> 02:47:45,090 being rude towards Michelle Obama. And it was like, some 2635 02:47:45,090 --> 02:47:50,100 marriage some hick town sends an email criticizing Michelle Obama 2636 02:47:50,100 --> 02:47:55,440 and it made like national news. How dare you, Joe, right. You 2637 02:47:55,440 --> 02:48:01,800 have Joan Rivers come out. And she says it so nonchalantly that 2638 02:48:02,100 --> 02:48:08,460 and one thing we have to take into account was that cover of 2639 02:48:08,910 --> 02:48:14,490 Newsweek, they have first gay president, Barack Obama with the 2640 02:48:15,660 --> 02:48:22,470 rainbow Halo. When I heard this, I'm like, that's not what they 2641 02:48:22,470 --> 02:48:25,830 meant. Wishes. Like you said, the rumor and rumors and the 2642 02:48:25,830 --> 02:48:28,530 conspiracies and those kinds of things went around. And it's not 2643 02:48:28,530 --> 02:48:32,040 something not something that I can't substantiate, even though 2644 02:48:32,040 --> 02:48:34,980 there's so some smoking guns around the activities of men 2645 02:48:34,980 --> 02:48:38,820 dying in Chicago, mysteriously. Hitler's in 2646 02:48:38,820 --> 02:48:41,820 the Larry Sinclair business and all about 2647 02:48:41,820 --> 02:48:45,120 that, too. I didn't, I didn't want to dabble in that I wanted 2648 02:48:45,120 --> 02:48:49,350 to come at the angle of this is how the media protects one of 2649 02:48:49,350 --> 02:48:53,610 their assets. And if you want to use the Operation Mockingbird as 2650 02:48:53,610 --> 02:48:57,960 a, as a friend at work, the framework, they're protecting 2651 02:48:57,960 --> 02:49:01,080 one of their real assets, not like quote unquote, assets, 2652 02:49:01,080 --> 02:49:05,070 right? But then, Joe, I mean, Joe, she just said, Oh, yeah. 2653 02:49:05,160 --> 02:49:08,640 And then she says, Okay, we have him Brock. And I'm like, okay, 2654 02:49:08,850 --> 02:49:13,650 and then she doubles down like, oh, oh, Michelle. She's a 2655 02:49:13,650 --> 02:49:16,500 trained me, but that's okay. Don't worry about it. I mean, 2656 02:49:16,500 --> 02:49:20,370 it's all right. But she didn't say it like me harshly. And then 2657 02:49:20,940 --> 02:49:25,290 the interaction opens up with the reporter referencing the 2658 02:49:25,290 --> 02:49:28,350 same set of six marriage that she had just done previously, 2659 02:49:28,470 --> 02:49:29,610 which I have a clip on 2660 02:49:30,210 --> 02:49:34,410 7pm Jones at Barnes and Noble, she gets a standing Oh, and a 2661 02:49:34,410 --> 02:49:37,680 surprise request. The comedian who's an ordained minister was 2662 02:49:37,680 --> 02:49:39,690 asked if she would marry these two things. 2663 02:49:41,040 --> 02:49:45,420 And it's wonderful. You're my second husband 2664 02:49:48,180 --> 02:49:51,780 Joan Rivers, a force of nature who was one of a kind Thanks for 2665 02:49:51,780 --> 02:49:52,740 the memories Jones. 2666 02:49:53,580 --> 02:49:57,810 Yeah, yeah, it didn't end very well. With the with this 2667 02:49:57,810 --> 02:49:58,470 comment. 2668 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:04,620 It seems like Joan knew it may have been coming from her last 2669 02:50:04,620 --> 02:50:05,730 show that she did. 2670 02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:09,570 Our top story though is the passing of Joan Rivers can her 2671 02:50:09,570 --> 02:50:14,280 voice really be gone? Funeral Services for her will be this 2672 02:50:14,280 --> 02:50:18,150 Sunday in New York. Remember it says, are pouring in from all 2673 02:50:18,150 --> 02:50:22,920 over the world. For this comedy legend her family says the 81 2674 02:50:22,920 --> 02:50:26,130 year old died peacefully Thursday in a New York Hospital 2675 02:50:26,580 --> 02:50:30,360 summing up a legendary career in comedy rivers daughter and co 2676 02:50:30,360 --> 02:50:34,410 star Melissa Rivers that this statement my mother's greatest 2677 02:50:34,410 --> 02:50:37,170 joy in life was to make people laugh, although that is 2678 02:50:37,170 --> 02:50:40,920 difficult to do right now. I know her final wish would be 2679 02:50:40,920 --> 02:50:44,550 that we returned to laughing soon. Well, as you know, 2680 02:50:44,550 --> 02:50:47,790 virtually no subject was off limits for rivers, including her 2681 02:50:47,790 --> 02:50:51,630 own mortality. Take a listen to this clip now from her final 2682 02:50:51,630 --> 02:50:55,740 stand up comedy performance reporting just one day before 2683 02:50:55,770 --> 02:50:57,510 she ended up in the hospital. 2684 02:50:59,130 --> 02:51:09,210 If I could die Do you understand how lucky you would be? Do you 2685 02:51:09,210 --> 02:51:11,880 honestly, you'd have something to talk about to the rest of 2686 02:51:11,880 --> 02:51:15,510 your life. We invited you there. 2687 02:51:18,000 --> 02:51:19,620 What did she say at the end? I couldn't hear it. 2688 02:51:20,610 --> 02:51:22,890 She says she's talking about her dying. She's like you were 2689 02:51:22,890 --> 02:51:27,510 there. You know, I mean? It would be big news and you would 2690 02:51:27,540 --> 02:51:33,900 know. But this is one day before she goes in for surgery. Yeah, 2691 02:51:33,930 --> 02:51:37,770 very simple surgery. Very simple surgery 2692 02:51:37,800 --> 02:51:39,660 and routine. 2693 02:51:41,010 --> 02:51:45,750 routine and then they're just they honestly says that she 2694 02:51:45,750 --> 02:51:46,860 didn't have to die. 2695 02:51:47,070 --> 02:51:50,100 There are startling new details emerging from the federal 2696 02:51:50,100 --> 02:51:53,610 investigation into the death of Joan Rivers. The findings have 2697 02:51:53,640 --> 02:51:55,860 angered her daughter Melissa. Yeah, Chris 2698 02:51:55,860 --> 02:51:58,290 Wragge. He has the latest from outside the clinic where a new 2699 02:51:58,290 --> 02:52:01,710 report says terrible mistakes were made. It's this simple. 2700 02:52:01,920 --> 02:52:03,660 Joan Rivers did not have to die. 2701 02:52:04,650 --> 02:52:08,640 There's always a risk. Whenever you go under, you've got to say 2702 02:52:08,640 --> 02:52:13,530 maybe this won't work. Or maybe I won't even come out of it is a 2703 02:52:13,530 --> 02:52:15,300 major life choice. 2704 02:52:15,870 --> 02:52:18,990 This just released 22 page report include some disturbing 2705 02:52:18,990 --> 02:52:21,870 claims about what was supposed to be just a routine throw 2706 02:52:21,870 --> 02:52:24,810 procedure for the comic legend back in August. Among the 2707 02:52:24,810 --> 02:52:28,200 mistakes investigators report the clinic failed to get Jones 2708 02:52:28,200 --> 02:52:31,830 informed consent for each procedure performed and failed 2709 02:52:31,830 --> 02:52:35,430 to identify deteriorating vital signs. And this is the part that 2710 02:52:35,430 --> 02:52:38,460 is just astounding. The report says that while Joan was 2711 02:52:38,460 --> 02:52:42,720 sedated, a staff member quote, took pictures of the surgeon and 2712 02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:44,520 a patient with his cell phone. 2713 02:52:46,710 --> 02:52:52,110 Oh, man. Oh, I remember all this. It was very 2714 02:52:52,619 --> 02:52:53,519 proof of it hit 2715 02:52:55,980 --> 02:53:02,700 Send me my bitcoin. Yeah, that's bad man. I was shocking to me 2716 02:53:02,700 --> 02:53:05,790 when she died. It's like what? And then because I didn't hear 2717 02:53:05,790 --> 02:53:09,300 about the Michelle thing until after 2718 02:53:10,109 --> 02:53:15,059 me either me and Monica say Oh, this is what like she died 2719 02:53:15,059 --> 02:53:18,209 mysteriously. And all of a sudden, you know, what shocked 2720 02:53:18,239 --> 02:53:21,389 me was that the news didn't freak out on her and counsel 2721 02:53:21,389 --> 02:53:25,229 her. She should have definitely been canceled. To say the first 2722 02:53:25,229 --> 02:53:29,879 black. First Lady is a transgender. I mean, you had the 2723 02:53:29,879 --> 02:53:32,729 gay kid, the LGBT community should have been outraged. The 2724 02:53:32,729 --> 02:53:36,359 black community should have been outraged. The feminists should 2725 02:53:36,359 --> 02:53:37,979 have been outraged. You know, the 2726 02:53:37,980 --> 02:53:40,830 machine the machine didn't the machine suppressed it the 2727 02:53:40,830 --> 02:53:42,330 machine didn't let that happen. 2728 02:53:43,410 --> 02:53:47,370 Waste when they don't talk about something that can generate a 2729 02:53:47,370 --> 02:53:51,330 lot of revenue as mean it's bigger. It's much big money much 2730 02:53:51,330 --> 02:53:51,780 bigger. 2731 02:53:52,110 --> 02:53:55,680 We're just looking so yeah, it was Entertainment Tonight. I 2732 02:53:55,680 --> 02:53:59,010 think they might have had, they might have shown no, I'm just 2733 02:53:59,010 --> 02:54:02,310 looking at the news. If I can see any historical new stuff. 2734 02:54:03,180 --> 02:54:07,410 It's really it only aired there I think and that was it. Done on 2735 02:54:07,410 --> 02:54:07,920 TMZ 2736 02:54:07,920 --> 02:54:10,350 covered it and they kind of poo pooed it away like oh, that's 2737 02:54:10,350 --> 02:54:14,310 just John Van Jones. Yeah, that's why I heard it on team 2738 02:54:14,340 --> 02:54:17,280 the TMZ clip, not what you can't find anymore. That's the other 2739 02:54:17,280 --> 02:54:21,210 thing like these clips are disappearing. To find this clip 2740 02:54:21,720 --> 02:54:27,030 was hard. I had to go inside of a bigger like, video that had it 2741 02:54:27,060 --> 02:54:30,930 in the clip embedded. And I had to snip it there but no, the 2742 02:54:30,930 --> 02:54:34,230 clips are gone. They're gone. They've been scrubbed. Really. 2743 02:54:35,610 --> 02:54:41,490 And don't ever get it twisted that Obama is gangster. Super 2744 02:54:41,490 --> 02:54:45,570 gangster. And the reason why I say that is 41 2745 02:54:46,140 --> 02:54:49,020 and Joan Rivers her daughter Melissa revealing tonight she 2746 02:54:49,020 --> 02:54:51,270 received a handwritten note paying tribute to her late 2747 02:54:51,270 --> 02:54:54,330 mother that note from President Obama writing quote, not only 2748 02:54:54,330 --> 02:54:56,790 did she make us laugh, she made us think 2749 02:54:57,570 --> 02:54:58,890 she made us think 2750 02:54:59,610 --> 02:55:07,440 yes A handwritten note from Obama. He just called you gay, 2751 02:55:07,440 --> 02:55:11,340 your wife trainee? Oh, yeah. She made us laugh. She made her 2752 02:55:11,340 --> 02:55:13,680 think a little too much. Do you 2753 02:55:13,680 --> 02:55:18,090 remember? Do you remember the time that was? President Obama 2754 02:55:18,090 --> 02:55:21,840 was speaking. And I think there might have been a war memorial. 2755 02:55:22,680 --> 02:55:26,760 Any any any? He's referring to you know, Mike and I, we, 2756 02:55:27,179 --> 02:55:31,709 yeah, Michael and Michael. He did it on several occasions. But 2757 02:55:31,709 --> 02:55:36,059 like I said, I don't want to I don't have proof either way, on 2758 02:55:36,059 --> 02:55:40,499 what she is or isn't. But that fact that wasn't covered in the 2759 02:55:40,499 --> 02:55:43,949 news and that he follows up with a handwritten note to Melissa 2760 02:55:43,949 --> 02:55:50,099 River. She made us laugh, she made this thing. That's like a 2761 02:55:50,159 --> 02:55:52,949 stone cold, like gangsta moonlight. Did it come wrapped 2762 02:55:52,949 --> 02:55:54,569 in like a dead fish or something? 2763 02:55:55,530 --> 02:55:59,580 Like, like, I stir and then I sent the kid a note. That is 2764 02:55:59,580 --> 02:56:03,090 really I love your thinking Mo. 2765 02:56:04,260 --> 02:56:08,460 No, it's just but and I want to say this before I play this last 2766 02:56:08,490 --> 02:56:14,760 clip. This is the hill Obama chose to die on metaphorically 2767 02:56:14,760 --> 02:56:17,700 or figuratively. And that's the transgender bathroom, 2768 02:56:17,730 --> 02:56:20,910 the bathroom. That's right. This and 2769 02:56:22,260 --> 02:56:25,620 I want to say enraged, but just that was the tipping point for 2770 02:56:25,620 --> 02:56:30,540 black people. It's like, come on brah. Like, I mean, you did DACA 2771 02:56:30,870 --> 02:56:36,540 you did gay marriage before us. I mean, the guy said before us, 2772 02:56:36,750 --> 02:56:40,200 you did all these other things. And then your last year to 2773 02:56:40,740 --> 02:56:45,120 transgender bathrooms. That's the one you want it that's the 2774 02:56:45,120 --> 02:56:50,160 one you wanted, not reparations not so the freeing people. So 2775 02:56:50,160 --> 02:56:53,790 the logic the logical conclusion is this is the decision made by 2776 02:56:53,790 --> 02:56:56,700 a man who has a different cultural history than was 2777 02:56:56,700 --> 02:57:01,110 portrayed. Yes. But and different 2778 02:57:01,590 --> 02:57:04,350 values you parade around as black when you play it out as 2779 02:57:04,350 --> 02:57:05,670 black that has certain 2780 02:57:06,750 --> 02:57:09,660 racist wishes. Yeah, sure. And 2781 02:57:09,660 --> 02:57:13,650 that's what you heard upset. Upset. MICHAEL ERIC DYSON, like, 2782 02:57:14,160 --> 02:57:18,900 that's kind of what he was saying like, bro, come on. I say 2783 02:57:18,900 --> 02:57:20,820 something. So little bit made. 2784 02:57:21,060 --> 02:57:24,660 Gray. Well, no, actually, I'll ask you if he gets an extra. I 2785 02:57:24,840 --> 02:57:29,280 don't. Okay. There may be some reasonings behind why he's so 2786 02:57:29,280 --> 02:57:36,270 sympathetic to this demographic, and that's Obama's ex nanny. 2787 02:57:40,050 --> 02:57:43,860 66 year old EBU walks the streets of her Indonesian slum. 2788 02:57:44,310 --> 02:57:48,300 She lives in a tiny room. subsisting on money she earns 2789 02:57:48,300 --> 02:57:51,570 from washing clothes, EVs, meager existence belies a 2790 02:57:51,570 --> 02:57:55,650 startling truth. She was once nanny to President Barack Obama. 2791 02:57:57,120 --> 02:57:59,910 She's always been proud that the person she cared for drove to 2792 02:57:59,910 --> 02:58:03,210 school and cooked for ended up being number one in the world. 2793 02:58:03,240 --> 02:58:06,330 The future president was just eight years old at the time. In 2794 02:58:06,330 --> 02:58:09,990 the late 1960s. His mother and Donna married her second husband 2795 02:58:09,990 --> 02:58:13,170 and moved to Indonesia. Dunham was impressed by EVs cooking 2796 02:58:13,170 --> 02:58:16,680 ability, and offered her a job for two years he lived with 2797 02:58:16,680 --> 02:58:20,370 Obama and his family in this Jakarta home. But she thinks the 2798 02:58:20,370 --> 02:58:23,520 young Obama didn't know one fundamental truth about her. 2799 02:58:24,030 --> 02:58:29,310 born a man. He identifies as a woman. He says and Donna might 2800 02:58:29,310 --> 02:58:31,530 have known she was transgendered, but she never 2801 02:58:31,530 --> 02:58:34,620 dressed as a woman in front of Youngberry Edie has struggled 2802 02:58:34,620 --> 02:58:38,460 through life, saying she's never found suitable works until Obama 2803 02:58:38,460 --> 02:58:42,000 and his family left the country in the early 1970s. But she says 2804 02:58:42,000 --> 02:58:44,550 Obama's election gave her a reason to feel proud for the 2805 02:58:44,550 --> 02:58:48,720 first time and a longtime Matt Friedman, Associated Press. 2806 02:58:49,920 --> 02:58:55,800 Wow. So thank you for that, too. I didn't know that story there. 2807 02:58:55,830 --> 02:59:01,500 Damn, you. Damn, you allow that listen, Maurice. You gotta stop 2808 02:59:01,500 --> 02:59:08,280 this. What do you what do you think the strategy was, for 2809 02:59:08,310 --> 02:59:11,880 whoever is was controlling Obama and every president is 2810 02:59:11,880 --> 02:59:14,340 controlled one way or the other. This current one is probably 2811 02:59:14,340 --> 02:59:18,570 more controlled by military than anything. What do you think the 2812 02:59:18,570 --> 02:59:24,060 strategy was? What Why choose those particular issues to go 2813 02:59:24,060 --> 02:59:28,620 out with and not? I mean, sorry to put it just toss a bone. I 2814 02:59:28,620 --> 02:59:31,410 mean, why not a single thing? What do you think the idea was 2815 02:59:31,410 --> 02:59:31,860 there? 2816 02:59:33,060 --> 02:59:36,690 Well, if you look at it from from a Marxist mindset, it's all 2817 02:59:36,690 --> 02:59:37,560 about the conflict. 2818 02:59:38,610 --> 02:59:43,080 So keep the conflict going and just add some LGBTQIA PK to we 2819 02:59:43,080 --> 02:59:43,410 got 2820 02:59:43,530 --> 02:59:48,090 a good cost thing. I want to say this correctly. The LGBT 2821 02:59:48,090 --> 02:59:51,840 community was sitting back on their laurels, celebrating the 2822 02:59:51,840 --> 02:59:58,110 marriage thing. So it's like now at another level because 2823 02:59:58,710 --> 02:59:59,970 you didn't win nothing. 2824 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:03,720 You know what's in here? Oh wow. 2825 03:00:04,380 --> 03:00:08,280 Sisters and brothers have their own bathroom. There is no 2826 03:00:08,280 --> 03:00:08,910 victory 2827 03:00:10,620 --> 03:00:14,580 well that of course is not the end of the Barack Hussein Obama 2828 03:00:14,580 --> 03:00:18,810 story. The berry so Tonto story this story will continue and I 2829 03:00:18,810 --> 03:00:21,630 look forward to unpacking whatever comes our way with you 2830 03:00:21,630 --> 03:00:26,220 mo because I think this a lot well, I'm not gonna say it 2831 03:00:26,220 --> 03:00:28,500 because it's your it's your tagline to say 2832 03:00:28,530 --> 03:00:33,000 yes, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal 2833 03:00:33,000 --> 03:00:34,500 itself. And that 2834 03:00:34,530 --> 03:00:37,950 is our motto ladies and gentlemen Moe thank you so much 2835 03:00:38,010 --> 03:00:39,660 at a good time man as always, 2836 03:00:40,740 --> 03:00:43,920 as always, Adam and I'll see you next week. Remember it's mo 2837 03:00:43,920 --> 03:00:47,400 facts.com If you want to support us directly you producers are 2838 03:00:47,400 --> 03:00:51,930 encouraged to do that. mov fu nd me.com We'll see you next week 2839 03:00:51,930 --> 03:00:53,970 right here on mo facts with Adam curry. 2840 03:00:54,449 --> 03:00:58,439 I chose this particular song because the words have a very 2841 03:00:58,439 --> 03:01:03,899 special message I've heard a lot of songs and I've sang a lot of 2842 03:01:03,899 --> 03:01:09,029 songs but none of them really really came right out and call 2843 03:01:09,029 --> 03:01:15,929 the spade as fade this song tells it just like it is the 2844 03:01:15,929 --> 03:01:22,859 message is simply that it's just about an impossible task to 2845 03:01:22,859 --> 03:02:22,049 figure out which of your friends don't tell Do you know just 2846 03:02:22,589 --> 03:02:32,429 coming from know let the handshake and the smiles ticket 2847 03:02:32,639 --> 03:02:59,909 demand buys all the time sometimes still looking at the 2848 03:02:59,909 --> 03:03:13,499 kitchen Thanks Obama