1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,070 For more facts with Adam curry for July 20 2020. This is 2 00:00:14,070 --> 00:00:18,810 episode number 43 Cash rules everything around me. The 3 00:00:18,810 --> 00:00:23,910 money's Dolla dolla Bill y'all. Yes, here he is our very own 4 00:00:23,910 --> 00:00:25,950 Dolla dolla Bill y'all. Hey mo How you doing? 5 00:00:27,330 --> 00:00:28,890 I'm doing good Adam, how about yourself? 6 00:00:28,979 --> 00:00:33,269 Fantastic man I love this track. This is really good. Wu Tang 7 00:00:33,269 --> 00:00:33,779 Clan Wu 8 00:00:33,780 --> 00:00:36,900 Tang Clan, the one and only love it love 9 00:00:36,900 --> 00:00:40,440 it. Well, apologies everybody it's been we've had a bit of an 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,790 absence since episode 42 I will take first responsibility since 11 00:00:44,790 --> 00:00:48,780 I decided to pass on my bride away for her birthday. We went 12 00:00:48,780 --> 00:00:52,260 to Rona central in Florida, I came back and we're still alive. 13 00:00:52,710 --> 00:00:57,480 And, and Moe, you're new. We're still kind of moving. We want to 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,860 get back on track for Saturday. And I don't know it's like Mo. 15 00:01:02,250 --> 00:01:04,110 All kinds of people showing up at the house. 16 00:01:05,250 --> 00:01:10,110 Oh, my end. Okay, so it's twice your fault, Adam. Adam was mine. 17 00:01:10,740 --> 00:01:13,260 Okay, let's give credit. Let's give credit where credit's due. 18 00:01:13,290 --> 00:01:17,640 All right. So you went on vacation? Yes, I may use the you 19 00:01:17,730 --> 00:01:19,320 kicked me down a rabbit hole. 20 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:27,030 Right. Okay. I'm sorry. In that case, yes, indeed. It is my 21 00:01:28,860 --> 00:01:33,420 Saturday I get up, Bobby. I got the coffee going. I was saying 22 00:01:33,420 --> 00:01:37,320 get my clear list already. And I hear well, I don't actually hear 23 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:40,170 a knock at the door. My daughter come downstairs said Hey, Dad, 24 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,960 there's somebody at the door which that's rare around these 25 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:50,520 parts. ADT guy. He shows up, unbeknownst to anybody is like, 26 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,470 Hey, I'm here to put your security system. Man. We've been 27 00:01:52,470 --> 00:01:55,590 waiting for two weeks. I'm like, Ah, and it's one of the guys. 28 00:01:55,620 --> 00:01:56,130 You can't 29 00:01:56,130 --> 00:01:59,370 you can't you can't send them away at that point. I mean, you 30 00:01:59,370 --> 00:02:01,410 gotta Yeah, 31 00:02:02,340 --> 00:02:05,790 I would have to leave with him. Because we don't have security 32 00:02:05,790 --> 00:02:07,740 here. And you know, whatever, whatever. 33 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,190 He can eat a lot of coffee for sit and watch for the next 24 34 00:02:11,190 --> 00:02:11,670 hours. 35 00:02:12,420 --> 00:02:15,330 Right. So then he was I caught him at the dorm. Like, I want 36 00:02:15,330 --> 00:02:17,640 cameras here, here and here. And I'm trying to go back downstairs 37 00:02:17,730 --> 00:02:20,880 every second. He was like, Sorry, do you know this feature? 38 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,760 Do you know that feature? I'm like, come on. Man. We just ran 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,150 out of time. 40 00:02:24,180 --> 00:02:26,130 It doesn't all work. Is it all hooked up? And is it all 41 00:02:26,130 --> 00:02:29,130 installed? Now? Are you safe? Is the family say yes. Okay. 42 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:33,900 I feel safe. I can see all 360 degrees and my property and 43 00:02:33,930 --> 00:02:35,970 nice. I feel quite safe. 44 00:02:36,030 --> 00:02:38,970 Excellent. Well, we we of course committed to each other. We're 45 00:02:38,970 --> 00:02:41,520 really going to try and keep a Saturday schedule. Now as things 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,880 are starting to shake out. And Moe actually has a day job that 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,910 he's kind of figured into his schedule. So we should be we 48 00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:50,730 should be good for our Saturdays from now on God willing. You 49 00:02:50,730 --> 00:02:53,910 never know life does get in the way from time to time. How about 50 00:02:53,910 --> 00:02:54,030 I 51 00:02:54,420 --> 00:02:58,470 cannot say one thing, please for before you do. The reason why I 52 00:02:58,470 --> 00:03:02,130 had to stay on schedule now is because of my newest biggest 53 00:03:02,130 --> 00:03:06,990 fan. Even before the show, I was his biggest fan. My uncle 54 00:03:06,990 --> 00:03:11,760 Richard. Oh, okay. He is now he is now. Yeah, he isn't. I found 55 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,880 out he's a listener. So he's like, he's like when you're 56 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:15,990 dropping. We're dropping. 57 00:03:19,170 --> 00:03:21,660 Uncle Richard. Nice. Well, at least we know we have one fan. 58 00:03:21,660 --> 00:03:24,030 That's good. I know. We got a lot of producers out there but 59 00:03:24,030 --> 00:03:27,690 actual fans. Alright. This is a big deal. All right. Well, I'm 60 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,880 going to see what we got on the old. We'll have topics. Man, 61 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,700 there's so much but we know it's somewhere located near a rabbit 62 00:03:35,700 --> 00:03:38,880 hole. So as we see it go round and round. Where does it stop? 63 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,370 Nobody knows. Moe knows because today's show topic 64 00:03:41,609 --> 00:03:45,449 is we are trained Marxists. 65 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:53,070 That would be Patrisse Cullors. What's your name from Black 66 00:03:53,070 --> 00:03:53,790 Lives Matter? Yes. 67 00:03:53,820 --> 00:03:58,050 portrays colors young black. Days, correct? Yes. Oh, by the 68 00:03:58,050 --> 00:03:58,230 way, I 69 00:03:58,230 --> 00:04:00,840 want to come right out to us. Yes. Go ahead. Before we start, 70 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,900 I just wanted to say, are we going to talk about Kanye today 71 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:04,680 at any point? 72 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,710 No, okay. We can't. We can't even Kanye. He needs his 73 00:04:10,950 --> 00:04:14,010 episode. He had one episode already. 74 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,700 Exactly. Exactly. All right. I'm sorry. I didn't mean 75 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,700 to call your rabbit hole. No, no, you're right. It's that's 76 00:04:20,700 --> 00:04:23,280 the major. That's a major major. 77 00:04:23,370 --> 00:04:27,150 It's flat. It's a slag topic. It's on the way. There will be 78 00:04:27,150 --> 00:04:28,500 plenty of time. No doubt. 79 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,990 Yes, we have to talk about the Patrisse Cullors. And her 80 00:04:34,050 --> 00:04:40,770 mission that we all have speculated pointed to, but she 81 00:04:40,770 --> 00:04:44,460 just came right out and said it that they're trained Marxists. 82 00:04:44,490 --> 00:04:47,040 Yes. Yes. That was pretty good. 83 00:04:48,810 --> 00:04:52,740 So as you always know, I want to go back and listen to the whole 84 00:04:52,770 --> 00:04:57,210 interview that that snippet came from. Yep. And that is Warren 85 00:04:57,210 --> 00:05:01,530 Mr. Jared a ball and it's time I know an interest interesting 86 00:05:01,530 --> 00:05:04,410 interview with Black Lives Matter co founder, Patrisse, 87 00:05:04,410 --> 00:05:04,950 Cullors 88 00:05:05,190 --> 00:05:09,150 Supertrees. For those who may have just been introduced to you 89 00:05:09,150 --> 00:05:12,450 in a most direct way at the Netroots conference, 90 00:05:12,870 --> 00:05:17,970 intervention you conducted, please help them in us see past 91 00:05:17,970 --> 00:05:20,610 what appears, from my point of view to have been a tremendous 92 00:05:20,610 --> 00:05:23,880 amount of appropriation and suppression of you, and bull and 93 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,420 Alicia as founders, and the particular brand of radical 94 00:05:27,420 --> 00:05:30,900 black gender and sexuality politics you all work with. So 95 00:05:30,900 --> 00:05:33,630 if you would please summarize for us how you see the origins, 96 00:05:33,630 --> 00:05:36,690 politics, and purpose of Black Lives Matter. 97 00:05:38,070 --> 00:05:42,570 Wow. So I kind of remember there was a disruption at the net 98 00:05:42,570 --> 00:05:46,770 roots, which is a political thing, isn't it? Net roots? Yes, 99 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,020 yes, I seem to recall this. 100 00:05:49,620 --> 00:05:54,060 It was pretty much they were trying to be co opted. As you 101 00:05:54,060 --> 00:05:59,130 know, with any organization, they usually take the leaders 102 00:05:59,130 --> 00:06:03,930 out or replace the leaders. So as Jared said, they were being 103 00:06:03,930 --> 00:06:06,930 suppressed and were appropriated. And then he also 104 00:06:06,930 --> 00:06:11,580 said, a radical brand, a black gender, Oh, yes. Sexuality 105 00:06:11,610 --> 00:06:12,300 politics, 106 00:06:12,540 --> 00:06:15,510 which to me sounded like, wait a minute, do we have more lesbian 107 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:18,510 black women on the scene again, because this is I've seen this. 108 00:06:20,970 --> 00:06:24,960 Yes. And and we're really going to get to what Black Lives 109 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,320 Matter is about. And I want to say this, I know I tried to run 110 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:33,300 with the term Black Lives Matter, Inc. Yeah, differentiate 111 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:37,710 between the organization and the people on the ground. But I 112 00:06:37,710 --> 00:06:41,160 think I'm gonna shorten it up just to black ink. And black ink 113 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,240 is pretty much going to be anything that's done as far as 114 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,940 business that can be the Al sharpnose of the world, the 115 00:06:47,940 --> 00:06:51,990 Jesse Jackson's the black law matters. And we'll be just nice, 116 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:53,550 short and sweet blogging. 117 00:06:53,580 --> 00:06:56,280 I like it. I like it. I'm actually going to see if I can 118 00:06:56,280 --> 00:07:00,150 find the domain name. Continue playing along. 119 00:07:01,530 --> 00:07:07,020 Alright, so to further flesh out this radical Brando, black, 120 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:13,110 gender and sexuality, politics. And clip number three, they go 121 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:17,040 on to talk about black men? 122 00:07:18,150 --> 00:07:22,950 I think that's a great question. And the first place I'll go is 123 00:07:23,250 --> 00:07:27,120 the origins come from a deep place of black love and black 124 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:33,390 rage. Both at least Yeah, myself and Opal feeling the impact of 125 00:07:33,510 --> 00:07:37,830 George Zimmerman being acquitted of Trayvon Martin's murder, what 126 00:07:37,830 --> 00:07:42,900 that actually meant for our society, what that meant for 127 00:07:42,900 --> 00:07:49,710 this country to allow for this light skinned, white passing man 128 00:07:49,710 --> 00:07:54,090 to kill a young boy and get away with it, we knew this was going 129 00:07:54,090 --> 00:07:58,710 to have consequences far greater than that current moment. And so 130 00:07:58,710 --> 00:08:01,350 black lives matter was a call for all black lives. And it was 131 00:08:01,350 --> 00:08:05,340 important for us, as black women as and two of which are queer, 132 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,720 was to actually talk about the totality of black life, and that 133 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:16,440 black sis men are not the sum of black people, but rather, all 134 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:21,810 black life being the totality of black people. Whether that's 135 00:08:21,810 --> 00:08:24,270 black trans folk, whether that's black folks who've been 136 00:08:24,270 --> 00:08:26,910 incarcerated, whether that's black folks who are currently 137 00:08:26,910 --> 00:08:31,260 incarcerated black folks with disabilities, we want it to call 138 00:08:31,260 --> 00:08:35,940 a new black liberation movement that centered those most at the 139 00:08:35,940 --> 00:08:41,250 margin as a part of a political frame to challenge the current 140 00:08:41,250 --> 00:08:42,300 system that we live in. 141 00:08:43,620 --> 00:08:46,560 Well, Mo sounds to me like you're out. You're on the outs 142 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:48,030 there, man. You don't don't count. 143 00:08:48,990 --> 00:08:54,090 I am not surprised. I was never surprised because as she said, I 144 00:08:54,090 --> 00:08:58,350 mean a lot this clip. There's a lot to unpack. First of all the 145 00:08:58,350 --> 00:09:01,950 origin that she said it comes out of black love and black 146 00:09:01,950 --> 00:09:06,990 rage. Yeah, black rage towards who is a question that we need 147 00:09:06,990 --> 00:09:12,300 to ask. Because that's to crew women. And she also said, I'm 148 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:16,320 sure there's some black rage aimed at Black men black 149 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:22,020 cisgendered men to be specific. She also says about a lack light 150 00:09:22,020 --> 00:09:25,620 skinned white passing man, or she referred to George 151 00:09:25,620 --> 00:09:29,220 Zimmerman. Because as we all know, George Zimmerman will be 152 00:09:29,370 --> 00:09:34,860 actually classified as Hispanic Latinx but better excuse me. So 153 00:09:34,890 --> 00:09:41,340 um, this light skinned white passing man. We've talked about 154 00:09:41,340 --> 00:09:45,870 passing on his show and then she rounds out the clip with Black 155 00:09:45,870 --> 00:09:52,890 says men are not the sum of black people. Yeah. Even though 156 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:58,110 they use black sis men, in majority to push their call sort 157 00:09:58,170 --> 00:10:04,290 what this says I've been saying And we are being used. We're a 158 00:10:04,290 --> 00:10:08,640 political football. Mmm, yep. To kick open and what they realized 159 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,370 is what all other groups have realized about black people. 160 00:10:11,790 --> 00:10:15,090 They said, Okay, we can use black men to kick open the door 161 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,870 and leave black men holding the door while we rush. 162 00:10:19,980 --> 00:10:21,930 everybody rushes in. Yeah, exactly. 163 00:10:23,310 --> 00:10:26,070 So, um, are you surprised at 164 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:30,900 this? You know, as well, we, of course, we've done some work on 165 00:10:30,900 --> 00:10:33,210 Black Lives Matter. And I've researched it quite a bit 166 00:10:33,210 --> 00:10:38,760 myself. And to hear that there's a strong anti man element in it 167 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,390 now is not surprising at all. It's, it's part of the 168 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,830 problematic patriarchy. In this case, it's specifically sliced 169 00:10:46,830 --> 00:10:49,950 and diced. And, yeah, it seems like a repetition of what we've 170 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:53,190 been talking about for almost, by the way, July 31. Is our one 171 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:59,040 year anniversary. So yeah, it's, I mean, am I surprised? No, but 172 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,440 that's because I've been around for almost a year. 173 00:11:04,830 --> 00:11:07,740 And what I wanted people to realize is I've said this a 174 00:11:07,740 --> 00:11:11,310 couple times. One is we brought up this term heteronormative. 175 00:11:11,340 --> 00:11:15,600 Yeah. Patriarchy. Yeah. I think that's I think that's the term. 176 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:21,750 And I've also stated that there's been an article written 177 00:11:21,780 --> 00:11:25,470 and one Jamel Hill supported this article, it got a lot of 178 00:11:25,470 --> 00:11:28,650 support from what you call allies of Black Lives Matter, 179 00:11:28,860 --> 00:11:31,950 stating that black man, all the white people 180 00:11:31,979 --> 00:11:35,759 are black. Yes, exactly. We'll get 181 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,600 around to breaking that down eventually. But I wanted this 182 00:11:39,630 --> 00:11:42,840 interview. Everybody ran with the Marxist thing. Yeah. But I 183 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:49,200 think this is more telling entry to the black community. Because 184 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,730 black men are the catalysts that black men being killed in the 185 00:11:53,730 --> 00:11:57,270 street are the catalysts for what's going on? For everything 186 00:11:57,270 --> 00:12:00,480 that's going on, but they want to say, oh, no, we'll push it to 187 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,470 the side. And we're talking about our gender. And I won't I 188 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:07,200 don't want to belabor the point but we talked about one other 189 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,310 shows that they brought out climate change and it's kind of 190 00:12:11,310 --> 00:12:14,670 weird. What it is it's exclusionary it's all she 191 00:12:14,670 --> 00:12:18,180 literally said it she said all lives matter. But you know, we 192 00:12:18,180 --> 00:12:22,020 really need to focus on anything But sis black men. That's That's 193 00:12:22,020 --> 00:12:25,590 what she said. You can't deny it. Yes, good with the problem. 194 00:12:25,620 --> 00:12:28,710 I started with a with a white Hello, hello. With a white 195 00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:29,550 people black. 196 00:12:30,030 --> 00:12:32,940 Why do you think why do you think we've joined in together 197 00:12:32,940 --> 00:12:36,030 on this show, man, it's like white, white men are the even 198 00:12:36,030 --> 00:12:38,520 bigger problem. So yeah, it makes sense. 199 00:12:38,730 --> 00:12:41,460 And I'll say this, I'll say this in closing, and we can go to the 200 00:12:41,460 --> 00:12:45,900 next clip. But they're putting black sis men in a very 201 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,480 paintless into a corner because now you're making us choose 202 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,700 between being, quote unquote, black, or being a quote unquote, 203 00:12:53,700 --> 00:12:58,830 man. Yeah. And that's not a decision you really don't want 204 00:12:58,830 --> 00:13:03,930 us to make? No, just just being honest. So um, wait, 205 00:13:05,130 --> 00:13:08,040 wait a minute. Wait a minute. Yes. Which to me means if you 206 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,160 really had to choose gun to your head, you choose for being a 207 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,180 man? Yes, I had to choose me at first, I would have expected 208 00:13:15,180 --> 00:13:16,920 nothing else from me, actually. So yeah. 209 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,430 Because that's more of my identity. I mean, if you want to 210 00:13:20,430 --> 00:13:23,640 get into identities, that's a bigger part of my identities 211 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,810 course and blackness. 212 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,320 Yes. Well, this is so this I know, because, you know, we hang 213 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:28,590 out. 214 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,200 Right? So, um, I guess we can get right into Marx's 215 00:13:34,650 --> 00:13:37,230 bow, do you respond to that particular critique, again, a 216 00:13:37,230 --> 00:13:40,770 loving critique from an elder of the struggle that some others 217 00:13:40,770 --> 00:13:45,180 share that I've even shared as well, to be frank is a concern 218 00:13:45,180 --> 00:13:49,200 about in part because of the CO optation and the appropriation, 219 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:54,030 that more clear ideological structuring might be of some 220 00:13:54,030 --> 00:13:57,060 value here. But how do you respond to to those kinds of 221 00:13:57,180 --> 00:13:58,470 getting loving criticisms? 222 00:14:00,570 --> 00:14:06,870 I think that the criticism is helpful. I also think that it 223 00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:12,360 might. I think, a lot of things. The first thing I think, is that 224 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,500 we actually do have ideological frame, myself, and Alicia, in 225 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:21,750 particular, are trained organizers. We are trained 226 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:33,750 Marxists. We are super versed on sort of ideological theories. 227 00:14:33,780 --> 00:14:37,020 And I think that what we really try to do is build a movement 228 00:14:37,020 --> 00:14:41,430 that could be utilized by many, many black folk. We don't 229 00:14:41,430 --> 00:14:44,850 necessarily want to be the vanguard of this movement. I 230 00:14:44,850 --> 00:14:48,060 think we've tried to put out a political frame. That's about 231 00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:51,300 centering who we think are the most vulnerable amongst the 232 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:55,710 black community to really fight for all of our lives. 233 00:14:56,550 --> 00:14:59,460 Kind of kicking myself because of course I was one of those 234 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,880 dope She just got the Marxist comment for the no agenda show 235 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,640 and left it at that. But you're right. There's a lot in his. 236 00:15:05,790 --> 00:15:08,910 This is deep. I'm really glad you did that. We've trained you 237 00:15:08,910 --> 00:15:10,230 well on the no agenda show. 238 00:15:11,550 --> 00:15:17,700 So this other setup is Jared. Jared asks, Patrice about critic 239 00:15:17,700 --> 00:15:22,920 Sam Black Lives Matters, lacks structure or a plan. So she, I 240 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,790 think she was irked by that because one jarred himself being 241 00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:32,640 a man I was questioning, questioning her and then it was 242 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,210 an elder that hall so he framed the question that had brought up 243 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,510 the point and he agree with the point, right, so I think she was 244 00:15:39,540 --> 00:15:44,160 hurt. And by being hurt, she let the truth come out. To say that 245 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,970 we're train one train organizers. And when I hit the 246 00:15:47,970 --> 00:15:51,300 word organizer, I think community organizer, and I think 247 00:15:51,300 --> 00:16:01,860 no, not Umberto. Right. So you here trying to organize 248 00:16:01,860 --> 00:16:04,350 ourselves? Okay, so my ears perked up, and then she drops 249 00:16:04,350 --> 00:16:08,310 the hammer. She said, we're trained. She's, no. 250 00:16:09,420 --> 00:16:11,910 That's a very good analysis. I think you're right. She just 251 00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:15,360 needed to she was like, Who do you think I am? And that's your 252 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,870 right. And she let it slip out and says, Excuse me, just so you 253 00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:21,420 know, I'm not some dipshit who just stood up here. I'm a train 254 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:24,150 train Marxist. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Like a 255 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:25,980 revolutionary like, don't mess with me. 256 00:16:26,939 --> 00:16:30,509 She used the word. She said. We're super versed. Yeah, super 257 00:16:30,509 --> 00:16:34,799 first. So she's a super. So she's a super train Marx's super 258 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:41,069 first. Are we I'm not surprised, though. Because if you saw that 259 00:16:41,069 --> 00:16:46,169 was me breaking down the waves, right? The first wave are Marx's 260 00:16:46,169 --> 00:16:49,739 tactics. Yep. And then you use the second wave, a proper arm, 261 00:16:49,739 --> 00:16:53,699 excuse me of provocateurs, third wave your criminal element. And 262 00:16:53,699 --> 00:16:56,669 in the fourth wave, you blank it at all, and with the good 263 00:16:56,669 --> 00:17:00,059 people. So then you hide amongst the masses who did 264 00:17:00,060 --> 00:17:01,800 this interview again? Who was the interviewer? 265 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,780 This is Jared a ball from the Mix What I Like, I guess 266 00:17:06,780 --> 00:17:11,100 podcasts are show. So Well, I was a great font for him. 267 00:17:11,129 --> 00:17:14,549 I would guess I would hope that he that his follow up question 268 00:17:14,549 --> 00:17:18,539 was, where did you receive your train your marks his training 269 00:17:18,539 --> 00:17:21,779 and who trained you? And could you give me a little details on 270 00:17:21,779 --> 00:17:23,519 that? I'm sure that was a question, wasn't it? 271 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:28,110 No, it wasn't I will say this about Jared. Jared seems to be 272 00:17:28,110 --> 00:17:32,820 very left leaning. I don't want to taint cast anything upon him. 273 00:17:32,820 --> 00:17:39,510 But he seems me He's big. He's as my major and colonialism. 274 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:42,960 He's a professor, so on black history and things of that 275 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,250 nature. So I think he understood what she was saying it was nice. 276 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,280 What's understood doesn't have to be a splaying kind of 277 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,780 situation. Okay. All right. So to set up this next clip, she 278 00:17:54,780 --> 00:17:59,040 portrays goes on to define black and black lives matter. 279 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,910 One last question, if I could real quick, there has been some 280 00:18:02,970 --> 00:18:08,010 controversy in some circles over the definition of black. Could 281 00:18:08,010 --> 00:18:11,730 you say a word or two about how you can see the term black and 282 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,400 what you mean, when you say black lives matter. 283 00:18:16,020 --> 00:18:21,990 Black to me is both about a race that's been constructed, but 284 00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:25,350 it's also a political statement. It's a political framework. And 285 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:28,680 I think it's important, as we're building out this movement for 286 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,100 black liberation, that we in the Black Lives Matter movement, 287 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:37,230 allow for necessary debate, to come up around how we use the 288 00:18:37,230 --> 00:18:42,390 term and who's using a term and when it's used, and why it's a 289 00:18:42,450 --> 00:18:47,700 it's an important point to sort of build people together. And I 290 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:50,700 think it's specifically important when it comes to how 291 00:18:50,910 --> 00:18:56,910 the US is very clever at turning other groups. White, right, and 292 00:18:56,910 --> 00:18:59,460 making them white. And we've seen that throughout history 293 00:18:59,460 --> 00:19:03,060 when groups are not white. And when the white power structure 294 00:19:03,060 --> 00:19:06,960 was threatened, they figured out a way to make groups white. And 295 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,050 I think as we move forward, we have to figure out political 296 00:19:10,050 --> 00:19:14,010 alignments that hold blackness as a as a broader framework than 297 00:19:14,010 --> 00:19:19,380 just sort of the skin we're in but as a political statement. 298 00:19:19,889 --> 00:19:24,149 I'm curious what groups she's talking about, because a lot of 299 00:19:24,149 --> 00:19:27,629 the groups that we've discussed in the past started out with 300 00:19:27,629 --> 00:19:31,409 white leadership, including historically black colleges and 301 00:19:32,189 --> 00:19:34,919 NAACP, what groups is she referring to? 302 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,330 When you say groups? I mean, can you can you clarify what you 303 00:19:39,330 --> 00:19:39,510 mean 304 00:19:39,540 --> 00:19:46,080 organizations? NAACP are the groups where she talks about 305 00:19:46,110 --> 00:19:48,030 uprisings and like Black Panther. 306 00:19:50,820 --> 00:19:57,600 I'm not sure. Oh, I think what she says so she says, Okay, it's 307 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:05,010 come with me. She says there one She blames America for making 308 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,850 other people white. When it's when it's convenient, correct. 309 00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:10,620 Well made that statement. Well, 310 00:20:11,730 --> 00:20:15,090 she said that, you know, we have groups and then the US he said 311 00:20:15,090 --> 00:20:19,140 is great at turning them white or making them white. 312 00:20:20,190 --> 00:20:23,340 I got I got I got it. I got it. No, no watch what she's 313 00:20:23,340 --> 00:20:27,120 referring to is how the Irish was the Irish in the name room, 314 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:32,460 a white, Hispanic white god. 315 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:35,460 Oh, all right. I'm glad we figured that one out. 316 00:20:36,209 --> 00:20:38,789 We were hearing it two different ways. Yeah. That was kind 317 00:20:38,790 --> 00:20:41,760 of cool. Actually like that. Yeah, that was cool. Okay, 318 00:20:41,790 --> 00:20:47,010 so how I heard it was when the non white people quote unquote, 319 00:20:47,010 --> 00:20:51,450 white people numbers are low. They'll ingrain in graph. I 320 00:20:51,450 --> 00:20:55,590 mean, but the other group, but that's basically me. That's 321 00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:58,560 the system of white supremacy that was started over in Europe. 322 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:03,150 That was I've learned so much. Oh, teach. I want to start on my 323 00:21:03,150 --> 00:21:08,790 forehead. Yes. Okay. That is true. That is truly the that 324 00:21:08,790 --> 00:21:12,720 capturing that way is what we've defined as true white supremacy. 325 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,590 And the point I want to make is she just did this a clip 326 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,540 previous two clips prior with George Zimmerman, because she 327 00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:22,110 made him 328 00:21:25,620 --> 00:21:28,710 bam, okay, I got it now. All right. 329 00:21:28,740 --> 00:21:31,680 All right. And here's the conflict. And this is why I have 330 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,150 to use black ink. Because unbeknownst to me, Oh, I thought 331 00:21:36,150 --> 00:21:40,320 Black was talking about my lineage. But little did I know, 332 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:47,220 it was also a political statement. I would know. walkie 333 00:21:47,220 --> 00:21:48,360 talkie political state 334 00:21:48,990 --> 00:21:52,770 sandwich guy, you know, hanging? He got the sandwich boards on 335 00:21:52,770 --> 00:21:54,540 the front in the back. Wow. All 336 00:21:54,540 --> 00:22:00,270 right. So this is why we have to use this term from 43. Own. 337 00:22:00,390 --> 00:22:03,600 We're talking about black we have to talk about black ink. 338 00:22:03,630 --> 00:22:07,620 Yep. Because black ink is the political statement, which they 339 00:22:07,620 --> 00:22:13,650 are monetizing. Yes, or political and monetary gain, 340 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,090 right? Yes, she says who can use the term? So basically, it's a 341 00:22:18,090 --> 00:22:19,230 licensing agreement 342 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:27,210 we're determining we're going to use well and you know that but 343 00:22:27,210 --> 00:22:30,390 no, that may not be far off. I'm sure that you can't just be 344 00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:33,330 using black lives matter and I'm sure that's all licensed they 345 00:22:33,330 --> 00:22:36,360 got that down man they had that I mean, I found out they had 346 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:40,260 that locked up and 2015 that it also showed up the legalese 347 00:22:40,260 --> 00:22:42,420 everything for all the trademarks you name it 348 00:22:43,770 --> 00:22:47,760 but they're talking about black Excel Oh, this is why we saw all 349 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,980 these millions and millions of dollars pouring in for 350 00:22:49,980 --> 00:22:54,030 corporations to be like we need to be black affiliated right so 351 00:22:54,630 --> 00:23:01,800 it's kind of like he the high efficient on your on your guy 352 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,790 like all your all your brands are black friendly. So that's 353 00:23:05,790 --> 00:23:10,530 that's the money you saw. And she and finally she said she 354 00:23:10,530 --> 00:23:15,420 blacks as broader framework than skin. She said blacks as a 355 00:23:15,420 --> 00:23:20,820 broader framework than the skin we're in. Yes. So now they've 356 00:23:20,820 --> 00:23:22,950 just got to graft in who they want to to be black. 357 00:23:24,420 --> 00:23:28,170 Yeah, yeah. That That, by the way, is the work of a train 358 00:23:28,170 --> 00:23:32,490 Marxist. That kind of wording is good man that now she's good at 359 00:23:32,490 --> 00:23:35,010 it. She's good, give her big props for that. 360 00:23:35,850 --> 00:23:39,510 So we have the burqa black ink. So now we have to go back and 361 00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:43,470 say what is Marxism and who is Karl Marx. 362 00:23:44,370 --> 00:23:48,390 Marx was born in 1818 interior in Germany. Soon he became 363 00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:50,880 involved with the Communist Party, a tiny group of 364 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,060 intellectuals advocating for the overthrow of the class system, 365 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:57,180 and the abolition of private property. He worked as a 366 00:23:57,180 --> 00:24:00,000 journalist and had to flee Germany, eventually settling in 367 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,630 London. Marx wrote an enormous number of books and articles, 368 00:24:03,870 --> 00:24:07,380 sometimes with his friend Friedrich Engels, mostly Marx 369 00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:10,440 wrote about capitalism, the type of economy that dominates the 370 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,490 Western world. It was in his day still getting going. And Marx 371 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,880 was one of its most intelligent and perceptive critics. These 372 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,450 were some of the problems he identified with it. Modern work 373 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,770 is alienated. One of Marx's greatest insights is that work 374 00:24:25,770 --> 00:24:29,490 can be one of the sources of our greatest joys. But in order to 375 00:24:29,490 --> 00:24:33,060 be fulfilled at work, Marx wrote that workers need to see 376 00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:35,550 themselves in the objects they have created. 377 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,100 Nice, I bet you you've been on this case. Yeah. For a while 378 00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:48,450 now, but I bet you didn't realize it. You want me you want 379 00:24:48,450 --> 00:24:55,560 to know what it is please? No two boys a Marxist. Oh, yeah. He 380 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,930 just said what he just said I need to recognize myself in my 381 00:24:57,930 --> 00:25:01,830 word. Yes. Yeah. It That's exactly what he was saying. He 382 00:25:01,830 --> 00:25:05,310 was saying, I know you don't want me to make the noodles this 383 00:25:05,310 --> 00:25:07,440 way, but I need to recognize 384 00:25:08,130 --> 00:25:10,260 the noodles in the news. I don't see myself and 385 00:25:12,150 --> 00:25:16,200 that's best pure marks is taught. So I don't want to take 386 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,860 your noodle gun from you because that's the no agenda thing. So I 387 00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:23,550 came up with my own thing is called the castle cannon 388 00:25:28,770 --> 00:25:31,890 the castle and I love it. I love it. I love it that is gonna be 389 00:25:31,890 --> 00:25:38,700 here that thing again. Nice, cancel cannon. Excellent. 390 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,960 Excellent. 391 00:25:40,350 --> 00:25:43,920 So we're seeing these the intersectionality to use the 392 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:49,620 language of new to boy, Black Lives Matter. They're all saying 393 00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:55,620 we want to take ownership and control. The you know, the 394 00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:56,490 organization? 395 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,820 Yes. And we want to control production, which is where 396 00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:01,800 socialism and communism come in. 397 00:26:02,550 --> 00:26:05,610 Right. And this is I just wanted to point that out because I was 398 00:26:05,610 --> 00:26:08,610 like, wow, like, cuz they didn't dawn on me. It was like, 399 00:26:08,610 --> 00:26:11,040 notable, I thought he was just complaining. And like, you know, 400 00:26:11,070 --> 00:26:14,370 it was like more of I don't want to get into the generational 401 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,090 war. But more like a millennial just complaining about, you 402 00:26:18,090 --> 00:26:21,240 know, why do we have to do it this way. But this is ironclad 403 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,250 Marxism that he was kicking out. 404 00:26:23,580 --> 00:26:27,150 Well, especially in light of how Patrisse Cullors was talking 405 00:26:27,150 --> 00:26:31,350 about, you know, it being more than just the skin goes beyond 406 00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:33,600 the skin become part of something else. And that would 407 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,950 be the work, I guess. 408 00:26:35,490 --> 00:26:36,720 Yes, this is the work. 409 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,110 Just as an aside, because I've done a lot on Karl Marx and his 410 00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:47,190 name was mentioned in that first clip Richard angles. The 411 00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:50,850 thinking for me goes that marks here. He was a journalist, he 412 00:26:50,850 --> 00:26:54,150 was really kind of like a blogger of his age. And I 413 00:26:54,150 --> 00:26:58,560 believe it was a lot of Richard angles or angles, actually, that 414 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,370 had a lot of the ideas. And Karl Marx blogged about it. And he 415 00:27:02,370 --> 00:27:05,940 got most of the credit doesn't really matter because Marxism 416 00:27:05,940 --> 00:27:07,680 remains the same, the same thing. 417 00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:13,410 Yeah, my angel ism doesn't have the ring to it. At all, 418 00:27:13,470 --> 00:27:18,300 absolutely. It's all about the branding. Of course, in the day, 419 00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:18,660 why do 420 00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:21,750 you think I'm the pod father and Dave Winer hates me, man, it's 421 00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:22,380 obvious, 422 00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:28,650 right? It's all about branding. So I guess we can get deeper 423 00:27:28,650 --> 00:27:30,930 into who Karl Marx was with a clip seven. 424 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,810 Part of the problem is that modern work is incredibly 425 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,890 specialized, specialized jobs make the modern economy highly 426 00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:41,070 efficient. But they also mean that it's seldom possible for 427 00:27:41,070 --> 00:27:44,910 any one worker to derive a sense of the genuine contribution they 428 00:27:44,910 --> 00:27:48,810 might be making to the real needs of humanity. Marx argued 429 00:27:48,810 --> 00:27:53,250 that modern work leads to alienation and finding, in other 430 00:27:53,250 --> 00:27:55,920 words, a feeling of disconnection between what you 431 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,640 do all day, and who you feel you really are, and what you think 432 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,900 you'd ideally be able to contribute to existence. Modern 433 00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:08,280 work is insecure. Capitalism makes the human being utterly 434 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,520 expendable. Just one factor among others in the forces of 435 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,670 production, and one that can ruthlessly be let go, the minute 436 00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:18,120 costs rise, or savings can be made through technology. And 437 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:21,660 yet, as Marx knew deep inside each of us, we don't want to be 438 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,440 arbitrarily let go with terrified of being abandoned. 439 00:28:25,950 --> 00:28:29,730 Communism isn't just an economic theory, understood Emotionally, 440 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,730 it expresses a deep seated longing that we always have a 441 00:28:32,730 --> 00:28:36,150 place in the world's heart that we will not be cast out. 442 00:28:37,980 --> 00:28:42,810 Yes, a lot to unpack there. One, I think a lot of these people to 443 00:28:42,810 --> 00:28:46,890 get sucked into Marxism is because they don't have the 444 00:28:46,890 --> 00:28:49,290 family there, right? I mean, that's where you really find 445 00:28:49,290 --> 00:28:53,370 your identity and your family and that kind of thing. So if 446 00:28:53,370 --> 00:28:56,640 your whole life is dedicated to your job, you're saying to your 447 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,790 job, I need you to appreciate me I can't let you cut me off 448 00:28:59,820 --> 00:29:04,080 easily. So I think that's why we're starting to see this pivot 449 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,270 back to Karl Marx communism socialism in there it's all it's 450 00:29:09,270 --> 00:29:12,510 all I'm saying malmark is on the same road. I mean, in my 451 00:29:12,510 --> 00:29:12,960 opinion, 452 00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:18,210 yeah. And the lack of a father may is probably just as you 453 00:29:18,210 --> 00:29:22,080 know, forget just family just like a man about the house. 454 00:29:22,890 --> 00:29:25,860 So maybe that's why they're number one target is the man I 455 00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:30,720 mean, it just becomes cyclical right? It just seems itself 456 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,750 feeding Yep. Now I will say I do myself have capitalism is the 457 00:29:36,750 --> 00:29:39,540 best system I don't think we're in a capitalistic society 458 00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:42,900 anymore. I think it's more corporatist are some people even 459 00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:47,160 say, what is it what's the tyranny like the US technocratic 460 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:50,940 yet tech society? Yeah, that's another good one. So but um, 461 00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:55,800 Henry Ford, just as a small aside, Henry Ford, had realized 462 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,310 this issue that profit sharing right you have this you have 463 00:29:59,340 --> 00:30:03,450 this share that profits with the workers to keep the workers 464 00:30:03,450 --> 00:30:06,780 motivated. And he had this thing called a social welfare 465 00:30:06,780 --> 00:30:10,440 department. And what he would do is he would study the workers. 466 00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:16,650 And he would give him, he came up with the $5 a day, $5 per day 467 00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:22,230 work day, which was unheard of 1914. He also, um, was the 40 468 00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:26,640 hour workweek. So I think within capitalism, there is an 469 00:30:26,670 --> 00:30:30,750 opportunity to balance out the worker and employee II 470 00:30:30,990 --> 00:30:37,230 relationship. But this is what the communist slash socialist 471 00:30:37,230 --> 00:30:41,160 slash marks its prey on is this rift between the worker and the 472 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,480 employee. And I think capitalists have to do a better 473 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,610 job. And that's just my quick aside. Well, and 474 00:30:47,610 --> 00:30:49,920 I would add to that, I know a lot of people who still work at 475 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:57,630 the Ford Motor Company today, and that that was that culture, 476 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:02,640 of being proud of what they're doing all together is definitely 477 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,760 still there. I mean, they they love the cars that they build. 478 00:31:06,180 --> 00:31:08,340 And you know, the stuff you see in the commercial, you know, 479 00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:12,270 wherever we work here, boom. And I'm sure Chevy has the same with 480 00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:16,050 the Ford Motor Company still has that absolute culture. And I 481 00:31:16,050 --> 00:31:19,440 think the people that are still pretty happy, even though of 482 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,650 course, they're being eliminated by automation, but you know, 483 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,680 it's not that fast to process and there's always human 484 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,760 creativity needed. 485 00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:30,720 well being and manufacturing myself anytime you could point 486 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,780 to your children as they are built that are held, right that 487 00:31:33,780 --> 00:31:38,520 yeah, that is great for society in itself, because it allows 488 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,450 your children to have a certain respect for you. That my dad 489 00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:45,570 correct something. Yeah, of course, you have any other 490 00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:47,850 industries as well. But I'm just not speaking in manufacturing 491 00:31:47,850 --> 00:31:52,350 terms, because that's when it was really industrial age when 492 00:31:52,350 --> 00:31:56,250 this thing was really kicking up, right, with Karl Marx. So 493 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,420 let's wrap up, wrap up this final set of clips with 494 00:32:01,110 --> 00:32:02,220 prothesis death. 495 00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:05,580 This is perhaps the most obvious question that Marx had with 496 00:32:05,580 --> 00:32:09,090 capitalism. In particular, he believed that capitalists shrink 497 00:32:09,090 --> 00:32:12,210 the wages of the laborers as much as possible in order to 498 00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:15,870 skim off a wide profit margin. He called this primitive 499 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:19,860 accumulation or springlake, to accumulate Xian, whereas 500 00:32:19,860 --> 00:32:23,340 capitalists see profit as a reward for ingenuity and 501 00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:27,240 technological talent. Marx was far more damning, profit is 502 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,050 simply theft. And what you're stealing is the talent and hard 503 00:32:31,050 --> 00:32:34,170 work of your workforce. However much one dresses up the 504 00:32:34,170 --> 00:32:38,190 fundamentals. Marx insists that at its crudest, capitalism means 505 00:32:38,190 --> 00:32:41,130 paying a worker one price for doing something and then selling 506 00:32:41,130 --> 00:32:44,460 it to somebody else at a much higher price. Profit is the 507 00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:46,620 fancy term for exploitation. 508 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:52,230 For that day, I can see I can see why that made sense. I don't 509 00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:55,500 think it's true anymore. I mean, that people get screwed. Yes, 510 00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:56,970 but there's a Go ahead. 511 00:32:58,170 --> 00:33:04,170 No, no, you're on the right path. And if you look at me just 512 00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:07,440 putting on an improper context, if you're talking about black 513 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:13,230 people fresh out of slavery, and experiencing sharecropping, we 514 00:33:13,230 --> 00:33:16,140 you hear this just on a surface level, it may seem appealing to 515 00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:21,720 you. Yeah. But one side is like, right, you mean like the food I 516 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,440 do all the work? 517 00:33:23,850 --> 00:33:25,110 Exactly. Take all the 518 00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:29,670 profits. You basically it sometimes you leave me in debt, 519 00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:33,510 a lot of times sharecroppers were left in debt. So when you 520 00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:39,000 hear this alternate economic ideology, you it might seem 521 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,220 appealing to you, but there's only one problem 522 00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:44,550 well as problems. 523 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,780 What I'm saying to them when the one thing they didn't realize 524 00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:52,350 was the term collectivism, right, and we're gonna hear 525 00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:56,040 about that from Stephen Kotkin from the Hoover Institute, 526 00:33:56,399 --> 00:34:01,109 collectivization, you're going to correct me on this ties the 527 00:34:01,109 --> 00:34:05,039 peasants to collective farms forces them to work on 528 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,969 collective farms, in effect reintroducing serfdom. Have 529 00:34:08,970 --> 00:34:12,570 I got that right? Yes, that's basically the story. All right. 530 00:34:12,870 --> 00:34:17,970 And you write here that Stalin in imposing collectivization and 531 00:34:17,970 --> 00:34:21,960 slaved 100 million people, again, I got that right, all 532 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,910 right. Why, why was that necessary? Why was 533 00:34:26,910 --> 00:34:29,250 collectivization of such importance to Stalin? 534 00:34:30,270 --> 00:34:33,660 In the old days, people argue that it was necessary because 535 00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:37,800 this is how you modernized a peasant country, right? You 536 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,160 modernize the peasant country through coercion. You use the 537 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,510 state, to force everybody to do what the state needed them to 538 00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:49,290 do. And that's how you built an industrial power out of a 539 00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:49,680 peasant. 540 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,640 Marxism Leninism and collectivization is necessary 541 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,730 How come so modern those terms outcome. 542 00:34:57,450 --> 00:35:01,620 Marxism is about the trade sentence of capitalism. 543 00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:10,020 Capitalism is evil, alienation, exploitation, war, on mass 544 00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:14,520 unemployment and depressions. So the hat in order to get to a 545 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,020 better place in history, Marx argued, capitalism had to be 546 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,080 transcended the huggy alien word of Hegel. 547 00:35:23,310 --> 00:35:31,020 Hmm. So here we have them basically saying communism or 548 00:35:31,050 --> 00:35:34,620 Marxism is going to lead you right back to slavery. I don't 549 00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:41,610 think this sharecroppers part of it, instead of you paying your 550 00:35:41,610 --> 00:35:47,850 money to the crooked slave owners, you would just pay it to 551 00:35:47,850 --> 00:35:48,300 the state. 552 00:35:48,330 --> 00:35:51,810 Yeah. Sounds about right. Right. And 553 00:35:51,810 --> 00:35:54,690 it goes from, you know, what is it? But of course, 554 00:35:55,110 --> 00:35:58,380 there's the there's the illusion, the illusion is that 555 00:35:58,410 --> 00:36:00,720 you know, that the state, of course, is made up by the 556 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,050 people, until you find out that it's really only the people who 557 00:36:04,050 --> 00:36:07,800 are in the party. And that's really it's net, it's nepotism 558 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,800 all throughout. That's how that's how that usually works 559 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,130 out. 560 00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:15,150 And that's the problem, because all you system are ran by 561 00:36:15,150 --> 00:36:20,130 humans, and humans are self self gratifying. So at the end of the 562 00:36:20,130 --> 00:36:22,890 day, you're gonna still be dealing with the same problems. 563 00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:26,130 You haven't curb capitalism, like you said, nepotism, 564 00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:36,540 favoritism. And all other forms of just unequal and unfair, 565 00:36:37,380 --> 00:36:38,700 unfair practices when, 566 00:36:39,450 --> 00:36:42,210 when, when it's appropriate in the show mode, let me know when 567 00:36:42,210 --> 00:36:47,700 I can tell you about the new emergent form of autism, that 568 00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:50,460 we're that we're right now that we're in right now. What kind of 569 00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:54,150 an economy I think that is being formed. Just if there's a spot, 570 00:36:54,180 --> 00:36:55,500 let me know. And I'll give it to you. 571 00:36:56,310 --> 00:37:02,100 Okay, if not, if we get too far along, just just drop it off. So 572 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:07,590 we have talked about communism, and its relationship to civil 573 00:37:07,590 --> 00:37:11,520 rights. And just to bring people up to speed. I have a throwback 574 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,290 clip from show 22. And this is Danny Rubin, who was a major 575 00:37:16,290 --> 00:37:20,340 figure in the Communist Party. He talks about Rosa Parks and 576 00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:21,360 the bus movement. So 577 00:37:22,770 --> 00:37:26,370 you know, a couple years later, we went to them and asked them 578 00:37:26,370 --> 00:37:32,100 to help finance these buses of young people to use march in 579 00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:37,170 support of the Supreme Court decision. They did it they know 580 00:37:37,170 --> 00:37:45,870 that's a towel, we were able to bring 2000 young people to DC 581 00:37:49,470 --> 00:37:56,550 what else? Oh, so I'm so I'm getting a picture. This is this 582 00:37:56,550 --> 00:38:02,370 is the stuff closest to 60. That led up to it. Of course, there 583 00:38:02,370 --> 00:38:07,140 was Rosa Parks and, and the Montgomery bus boycott and the 584 00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:12,930 Montgomery. I forget what they call it Association, something 585 00:38:12,930 --> 00:38:19,080 Association. And we had a role in those things. Rosa Parks was 586 00:38:19,170 --> 00:38:25,560 was active in the southern negra Youth Congress. People knew her. 587 00:38:26,190 --> 00:38:32,070 She was not a party member. But after she became a heroine, she 588 00:38:32,070 --> 00:38:33,420 was, you know, friendly. 589 00:38:36,330 --> 00:38:38,670 Well, that maybe this is a good point for you to mention the 590 00:38:38,670 --> 00:38:41,730 Highlander Folk School. Maybe that's a good time for you to 591 00:38:41,730 --> 00:38:43,260 mention the Highlander Folk School. 592 00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:48,089 Yeah, I intend to. Let me just finish this. 593 00:38:49,230 --> 00:38:54,270 So yesterday, I was I had my headphones on. I'm listening to 594 00:38:54,270 --> 00:39:00,120 Kanye A's rally in South Carolina. Ne Ne asked the crowd, 595 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,520 he says, you know about Rosa Parks, right. You know, she 596 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,490 wasn't the first and I'm like, Yeah, Claudette Colvin, I know, 597 00:39:05,490 --> 00:39:10,530 I know. He never got to it, because he got cut off something 598 00:39:10,530 --> 00:39:14,160 like that. But it was it was interesting. The audience there 599 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,780 was certainly not all in the No. 600 00:39:17,610 --> 00:39:21,600 Of course not. I mean, because his narrative and I keep telling 601 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,800 these things. This narrative is more powerful than real history 602 00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:30,210 always. And I've said this before, and I know, I keep 603 00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:34,410 saying it's a hot take. But then that narrative of slavery is 604 00:39:34,410 --> 00:39:38,580 just as dangerous to black people as the actual act of 605 00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:42,480 slavery was because it leaves us in a state of perpetual 606 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,740 victimhood. Yeah, 607 00:39:43,830 --> 00:39:44,940 I'm ringing the bell for you. 608 00:39:45,810 --> 00:39:49,260 Alright, so we have Rosa Parks here. We know the real Rosa 609 00:39:49,260 --> 00:39:53,580 Parks. She liked guns, so she wasn't all for she wasn't all 610 00:39:53,580 --> 00:40:00,570 for the non violence part of civil rights. And they may say 611 00:40:00,570 --> 00:40:04,320 she was friendly. She can never be official party member because 612 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,400 she was too close to King. Right and that and King hat was the 613 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,500 squeaky clean guy. We always say any any any nefarious 614 00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,110 organization, you gotta have the clean guy, you know the bad guy? 615 00:40:16,140 --> 00:40:19,650 Well, as I've learned to say to people oh am okay. Yeah, he was 616 00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:20,970 the Greta of the time. 617 00:40:21,899 --> 00:40:25,229 Right. So I mean, you can't have Greta out here. Getting all 618 00:40:25,229 --> 00:40:29,849 dirty or taking yeah, getting dirty. So, Bob, just by 619 00:40:29,849 --> 00:40:35,459 association, Rosa Parks couldn't be seen as communist as well, 620 00:40:35,669 --> 00:40:40,559 because a lot of people early on knew what that meant. And it 621 00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:44,489 also often open them up for Hoover to you know, have a clean 622 00:40:44,489 --> 00:40:48,959 line of attack against them. Yes. With that said, what we 623 00:40:48,959 --> 00:40:55,169 need to do is go way, way back before Rosa Parks, and how 624 00:40:55,169 --> 00:40:58,379 carbon with communism brought raw racial equality to the 625 00:40:58,379 --> 00:40:58,799 south. 626 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,160 I'm Michelle Martin, and this is Tell Me More from NPR news. 627 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,320 First, we continue our Black History Month series of 628 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,900 conversations. Throughout this black history month, we've been 629 00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:10,530 focusing on new news about black history, new scholarship that 630 00:41:10,530 --> 00:41:13,080 has emerged in recent decades that sheds new light on the 631 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,290 story of black people in America. Today, we want to hear 632 00:41:16,290 --> 00:41:19,200 about communists in the civil rights movement. Now that's a 633 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,290 sensitive subject, since those working for equality have often 634 00:41:22,290 --> 00:41:25,350 been accused of being communists in this country, but some 635 00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:28,710 weren't. And we're joined now by Robin Kelly, author of hammer 636 00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:32,190 and hoe Alabama communists during the Great Depression, it 637 00:41:32,190 --> 00:41:35,760 documents how the Communist Party worked to secure racial, 638 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,580 economic and political justice. He's a professor of American 639 00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:40,500 Studies in history at the University of Southern 640 00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:43,470 California. And this semester, he's the Harmsworth, Professor 641 00:41:43,470 --> 00:41:46,200 of American History at the University of Oxford, and we 642 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,150 welcome you to the program. Thank you for joining us. 643 00:41:48,270 --> 00:41:52,740 Geez, somehow I didn't read about this in the 1619 project. 644 00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:54,720 I don't understand how that could have missed that. 645 00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:58,020 Well, it's because you have to protect your assets, one being 646 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,950 MLK, which I tell people, and we're gonna see it later in the 647 00:42:01,950 --> 00:42:06,510 show is he's the greatest control mechanism. They have 648 00:42:06,510 --> 00:42:09,630 over black people, right? Not him that not demand but the 649 00:42:09,630 --> 00:42:13,470 product that they created from his legacy is quite clear that 650 00:42:13,470 --> 00:42:17,130 the civil rights movement was birthed out of communism, and 651 00:42:17,130 --> 00:42:18,330 communist tactics, 652 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,830 not really not really taught not really taught that way. I will. 653 00:42:24,450 --> 00:42:27,480 Marxist teacher, a Marxist university that could teach you 654 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,870 about Marxist influence on 655 00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:36,000 exactly No, I'm I'm all in and this is a little discussed topic 656 00:42:36,030 --> 00:42:39,540 in a main in a mainstream way. That's a great fine, this NPR 657 00:42:39,540 --> 00:42:41,550 stuff is fantastic. Yeah. 658 00:42:41,580 --> 00:42:46,650 So I guess we can just get into Robert Kelley talks about the 659 00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:47,580 sharecropper movement. 660 00:42:47,610 --> 00:42:50,910 How did you get interested in this topic? And as I mentioned, 661 00:42:50,910 --> 00:42:54,420 it is a sensitive topic, because there are those for decades 662 00:42:54,420 --> 00:42:58,020 who've worked to tamp down the suggestion that anybody in the 663 00:42:58,020 --> 00:43:00,480 civil rights movement was attracted to the Communist Party 664 00:43:00,510 --> 00:43:01,050 at all. 665 00:43:01,410 --> 00:43:04,440 Exactly. And this is a story that actually predates the civil 666 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,700 rights movement as we know it. Going back to the 1930s. I 667 00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:13,050 became interested in this as a doctoral dissertation back in 668 00:43:13,050 --> 00:43:17,130 the mid 80s, when I was very active in a lot of social 669 00:43:17,130 --> 00:43:22,410 movements in actually in the LA area. And I wanted to know, how 670 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,850 the communist party organized African Americans, particularly 671 00:43:26,850 --> 00:43:31,470 in places where black people were the majority. And there I 672 00:43:31,470 --> 00:43:34,980 discovered a very vibrant movement that very few people 673 00:43:34,980 --> 00:43:39,270 wrote about that basically are two stories, one memoir by a man 674 00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:42,660 named Jose Hudson. And then another story in a book called 675 00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:45,690 all God's dangers, which is about an African American 676 00:43:45,690 --> 00:43:46,470 sharecropper, 677 00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:49,140 dangerous, the life of Nate Shaw. I remember that 678 00:43:49,170 --> 00:43:52,620 exactly, but his real name was Ned Cobb, and he was a 679 00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:56,220 pseudonym. And it's a beautiful book that tells his life story, 680 00:43:56,220 --> 00:44:00,600 only a portion of it deals with his membership in the communist 681 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,440 led sharecroppers union, which at one point, had about 12,000 682 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,790 members in the black belt counties of Alabama, 683 00:44:08,850 --> 00:44:11,160 and we're all the members black. Well, 684 00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:15,300 in Alabama, there was a point when basically all the members 685 00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:19,110 except one were all African American sharecroppers and 686 00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:19,950 tenant farmers. 687 00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:27,120 Well, I can see where all this is headed. I love it. Um, see so 688 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,720 as this, the interviewer stated, they there has been a concerted 689 00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:38,220 effort to tamp down this is her words to tamp down the communist 690 00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:41,040 connection with the Civil Rights Movement indeed, so this is 691 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,910 clear. This is clear suppression. Yeah. And it's 692 00:44:44,910 --> 00:44:48,990 really not because they didn't want to cover the story is they 693 00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:51,750 wanted to cover their tracks because the media is in on this 694 00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:58,950 whole thing. You have media, academia and some businesses 695 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,690 There are all in on pushing this narrative. And as um wow. 696 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,770 I see the repeat coming. I see the cycle for me this is this is 697 00:45:10,770 --> 00:45:12,690 very interesting. I like it. Yeah. 698 00:45:13,049 --> 00:45:17,399 So as Robin Kelly also said there was 12,000 members in 699 00:45:17,399 --> 00:45:22,289 Alabama alone all black. Yeah. All black. So I mean, we this is 700 00:45:22,289 --> 00:45:26,549 speaks to how widespread it was. And it predated the civil rights 701 00:45:26,549 --> 00:45:31,109 by like 30 years. So this is nothing, this is nothing new. So 702 00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:35,879 you can see how Rosa Parks, she was born into pretty much this 703 00:45:35,879 --> 00:45:39,719 environment of, of communism, and it seems 704 00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:43,560 so appealing, obviously, if you're a suppressed worker, or 705 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,230 you're black in the South Sea. Yeah, I mean, I can totally 706 00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:47,790 Yeah, this sounds like a good idea. 707 00:45:48,810 --> 00:45:52,260 That's why I made the statement about the sharecroppers and 708 00:45:52,290 --> 00:45:56,130 their their prom target. Yep. And not just because I think so, 709 00:45:56,430 --> 00:45:59,220 Moscow thought So start thinking, 710 00:45:59,430 --> 00:46:02,280 how did the Communist Party get started in Alabama, 711 00:46:02,759 --> 00:46:08,789 in 1928, the communists position internationally was that African 712 00:46:08,789 --> 00:46:12,329 Americans in the South have the right to self determination, 713 00:46:12,329 --> 00:46:15,689 meaning they have the right to create their own nation in the 714 00:46:15,689 --> 00:46:20,909 South. In this position that came out of Moscow, it came from 715 00:46:20,909 --> 00:46:26,189 other black communists around the globe. And with that idea in 716 00:46:26,189 --> 00:46:30,269 mind, they sent two organizers to Alabama, and they went to 717 00:46:30,269 --> 00:46:32,969 Birmingham. And it chose Birmingham because it was 718 00:46:32,969 --> 00:46:37,859 probably the most industrialized city in the south. And they went 719 00:46:37,859 --> 00:46:40,379 there thinking they would organize white workers and from 720 00:46:40,379 --> 00:46:43,559 white workers, black workers would follow, but no white 721 00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:47,489 workers who come forward. And so the first two organizers was a 722 00:46:47,549 --> 00:46:52,499 guy named James Julio, who was a Sicilian worker who had migrated 723 00:46:52,499 --> 00:46:56,369 to Alabama, and another guy named Tom Johnson. And together, 724 00:46:56,969 --> 00:47:00,629 they went out looking for white workers, and black workers came. 725 00:47:01,379 --> 00:47:04,319 And black workers came in fairly large numbers right away. 726 00:47:04,739 --> 00:47:08,549 Because for them, they had a memory of reconstruction and 727 00:47:08,549 --> 00:47:12,419 memory of the Civil War. And in that kind of collective memory, 728 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,479 they were told that one day the Yankees would come back and 729 00:47:15,479 --> 00:47:18,569 finish the fight. Or when they saw these white communists, they 730 00:47:18,569 --> 00:47:21,119 said, Oh, good, the Yankees are here. We can't wait to join. 731 00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:27,360 Wow, that's fantastic. What a great clip. Oh, my goodness. 732 00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:33,870 So you have Moscow monitor monitoring the black south. It's 733 00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:39,300 exactly what Trump and Russia was accused of. Yeah, collusion. 734 00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:43,260 Right. It was Trump, he's targeting black people because, 735 00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:46,350 you know, their distrust. And, you know, the Russians are 736 00:47:47,310 --> 00:47:50,730 fomenting division with you know, with these emails, these 737 00:47:50,730 --> 00:47:54,270 destructive emails and social media post, bro. 738 00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:58,680 It's a cycle. It's a cycle. It's a cycle, but it wasn't coming 739 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,380 from Russia, that's the problem was out in the open, it's still 740 00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:02,130 out in the open. 741 00:48:02,819 --> 00:48:06,029 Right? And then you have the black people thinking, well, if, 742 00:48:06,329 --> 00:48:09,209 if these are the people want to put the bad white people in the 743 00:48:09,209 --> 00:48:13,379 south, and you have these outsiders coming in, offering 744 00:48:13,379 --> 00:48:17,939 you what you perceive to be better. Well, so So basically, 745 00:48:18,059 --> 00:48:18,989 like a better deal. 746 00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:22,020 So just to summarize, before the Civil Rights Movement well, 747 00:48:22,020 --> 00:48:25,620 before it, our black brothers and sisters were sucked into a 748 00:48:25,620 --> 00:48:31,380 communist trap. Which they seem to still be caught in only it 749 00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:33,000 goes by different names. Now. 750 00:48:33,540 --> 00:48:39,660 It's, it's not the same, you know, we get, we get sucked in, 751 00:48:39,660 --> 00:48:42,270 and then we'll find a way out, and then they'll rebrand and we 752 00:48:42,270 --> 00:48:45,480 get sucked in again, from the newer generation, and then we'll 753 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,150 fight our way out, and then we get sucked out again, it's new 754 00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:52,950 code. It's like, this is the third cycle of being sucked into 755 00:48:52,980 --> 00:48:54,270 communist mindset. 756 00:48:54,299 --> 00:48:59,249 Yes. Wow, this is so good. I don't see why people go to 757 00:48:59,249 --> 00:49:01,709 school to learn this stuff. You could just listen to a podcast. 758 00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:06,659 Right? Before what was the name of the guy who was really the 759 00:49:06,659 --> 00:49:09,359 speech writer behind Martin Luther King, who recently got a 760 00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:13,829 commendation from Congress was just named the gay guy who got 761 00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:16,949 caught. They know they are resting. That's right. Okay, cuz 762 00:49:16,949 --> 00:49:18,599 I was trying to tell somebody the other day. 763 00:49:19,410 --> 00:49:22,800 Oh, he's got he's gonna make an appearance. In today's show. 764 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,660 Nice. Nice. Nice. Okay, good. 765 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,820 So we have, let's see, we start with 13. Okay, let's get right 766 00:49:29,850 --> 00:49:30,750 right into 14. 767 00:49:30,990 --> 00:49:35,430 What was the Communist Party's message at that time? And why 768 00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:37,590 were these black folks so attracted to it? 769 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,750 Well, there were three things. They focused on one, because it 770 00:49:42,750 --> 00:49:45,690 was during the Great Depression. Their primary focus is the 771 00:49:45,690 --> 00:49:50,490 unemployed. And so their demands were, we want either work or 772 00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:54,300 some kind of support from the government. The second thing was 773 00:49:54,330 --> 00:49:58,800 in 1931, you had the famous Scottsboro case when nine young 774 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,640 black men were arrested. falsely for raping two white women and 775 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,840 they end up going to jail. Well, these cases happen all the time 776 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,350 where black men are falsely accused. The difference was at 777 00:50:10,350 --> 00:50:13,230 the Communist Party made the Scottsboro issue an 778 00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:17,760 international issue. They put it in the newspapers, they spread 779 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,510 the word all over the globe in different languages. And these 780 00:50:21,570 --> 00:50:24,960 unknown figures suddenly became a kind of cost celeb. And 781 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,860 finally, the third thing was basic civil rights. The right to 782 00:50:28,860 --> 00:50:32,370 vote, the right to sit on juries, you know, the right to 783 00:50:32,370 --> 00:50:36,900 not be Jim Crow segregated. These things certainly drew out 784 00:50:37,170 --> 00:50:37,830 black working 785 00:50:37,830 --> 00:50:42,990 people. Yeah, fantastic. Made that makes so much sense. 786 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,200 They use the same taxes as they've used today, this 787 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,070 floating of criminal cases with propaganda all around the world. 788 00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:55,950 And for the gain of the cost for the game for the Communist 789 00:50:55,950 --> 00:50:56,220 Party. 790 00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:59,610 Well, what they figured out, I guess, is that, hey, we can do 791 00:50:59,610 --> 00:51:03,900 this trick with any marginalized group. Just tell people hey, are 792 00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:06,900 you this Are you that we can do the same thing for you? That's 793 00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:09,360 the that's what's happened is the expansion of that. 794 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,910 Right, and their reaction is so visceral to black racial issues. 795 00:51:14,970 --> 00:51:19,650 Yes. Because you know, it's, it's hag alien. The black 796 00:51:19,650 --> 00:51:24,030 against the white, you know, um, so it feeds right into it. Um, 797 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:31,110 so I found this interesting set of clips next, and this is Mr. 798 00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:37,260 Leonard Patterson. He's a black man who exposes communism and 799 00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:39,090 explains why he was a communist. 800 00:51:39,450 --> 00:51:42,930 the spoken word library presents, I trained in Moscow 801 00:51:42,930 --> 00:51:47,280 for black rebels in a lecture by Leonard Patterson. Cool. Mr. 802 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,970 Patterson joined the Communist Party in Philadelphia in 1928. 803 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,270 He rose rapidly through the ranks went to Moscow for 804 00:51:54,270 --> 00:51:57,360 advanced training along with such well known party officials 805 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,260 as Steve Nelson, Benjamin get low and Claude Lightfoot. In 806 00:52:01,260 --> 00:52:04,680 fact, while in Russia, he was the roommate of Gus Hall later 807 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:09,270 to become head of the Communist Party USA. Leonard Patterson was 808 00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:12,690 no small time operator within the movement. He was a member of 809 00:52:12,690 --> 00:52:15,210 the National Committee and National Bureau of the Young 810 00:52:15,210 --> 00:52:18,270 Communist League, a member of the Central Committee of the 811 00:52:18,270 --> 00:52:21,570 Negro commission, and chairman of the International Negro 812 00:52:21,570 --> 00:52:25,530 commission of the Communist International. He organized and 813 00:52:25,530 --> 00:52:29,220 led picket lines, strikes, goon squads, and riots, all in 814 00:52:29,220 --> 00:52:32,550 accordance with orders from party headquarters. He was an 815 00:52:32,550 --> 00:52:35,970 active and effective communist propagandist, not only in the 816 00:52:35,970 --> 00:52:40,860 United States, but also in Russia and Germany as well. Mr. 817 00:52:40,860 --> 00:52:44,250 Patterson left the Communist Party, when he finally realized 818 00:52:44,250 --> 00:52:47,940 it wasn't honestly interested in helping negros that it was just 819 00:52:47,940 --> 00:52:52,140 using him and his people as cannon fodder to create hatred 820 00:52:52,170 --> 00:52:56,070 and violence. And that the goal of the communist movement was 821 00:52:56,070 --> 00:52:57,990 the enslavement of all peoples. 822 00:52:59,550 --> 00:53:03,600 Oh, man, and my mind is just wandering as I'm thinking about 823 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,540 that. Do you think it's possible that later when J. Edgar Hoover 824 00:53:06,990 --> 00:53:11,130 came up in the FBI and knowing that he was essentially passing 825 00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:18,090 black man, that his his that his search to root out communism was 826 00:53:18,090 --> 00:53:23,160 in any way related to suppressing his race? 827 00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:33,630 I can see, I can see one of two ways. He could say, Okay, I'll 828 00:53:33,630 --> 00:53:38,760 use communism as an excuse to suppress my way race to cover 829 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,660 for myself passing. So no one would ever think to look at me 830 00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:47,460 that way. Right? Or I can see being a so called black man 831 00:53:47,970 --> 00:53:51,960 growing up in the South, maybe he realized communism was a 832 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,130 major problem, 833 00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:54,810 and then wanted to destroy this. 834 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,920 Right? I mean, you could look at it both ways. You could look at 835 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,880 it both ways. It gets out of the man's head. No, but you can you 836 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,780 can slice it both ways. Because really, he was really on the 837 00:54:06,780 --> 00:54:12,630 heels of communism, and that there was a great overlap 838 00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:18,540 between that and the civil rights. I don't know. Um, but in 839 00:54:18,540 --> 00:54:22,110 this last clip, Leonard Patterson says, he realized we 840 00:54:22,110 --> 00:54:24,900 were being used for cannon fodder. Yeah, I think a lot of 841 00:54:24,900 --> 00:54:28,290 what people are saying now and today is like Black Lives 842 00:54:28,290 --> 00:54:32,100 Matter, it just using us. It's totally cannon fodder. Yes. And 843 00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:35,550 that and even Patrisse Cullors admitted to that, that black 844 00:54:35,550 --> 00:54:38,130 people, I mean, let me get her go correct. And what she says 845 00:54:38,130 --> 00:54:42,300 she says black sis men are not the sum of black people. So even 846 00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:46,650 though they use this as, you know, their motivation for what 847 00:54:46,650 --> 00:54:52,110 they're doing, they don't want to change things for us. And let 848 00:54:52,110 --> 00:54:53,280 me just also say just 849 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,700 reiterate that because just want to make sure it's understood. 850 00:54:57,810 --> 00:55:03,030 Using black men at As the reason for this refers to just, I don't 851 00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:06,390 know, maybe she doesn't need to explaining. It's black men that 852 00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:08,970 are being killed. It's black men that are being arrested. It's 853 00:55:08,970 --> 00:55:13,020 it's all it's always a black man. So, you know, and but yet 854 00:55:13,050 --> 00:55:15,870 you don't really get to be at the party, 855 00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:19,590 this is black man to shut up, shut up and get killed, or shut 856 00:55:19,590 --> 00:55:23,160 out and be muscle when we need you to be or, you know, it's 857 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,480 always just be what you need, what we need you to be. And 858 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:33,450 that's that's the new new wave that they have gone. And one 859 00:55:33,450 --> 00:55:36,630 last thing he said he even mentioned himself, this slave of 860 00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:40,260 all people this goes back to collectivism, right, that he 861 00:55:40,260 --> 00:55:44,340 really realized, like how long we had it back to slavery here. 862 00:55:44,850 --> 00:55:49,320 Just take my word for it. We actually have a clip from 863 00:55:50,070 --> 00:55:52,170 Leonard Patterson, in 16. 864 00:55:53,490 --> 00:56:01,020 I am Leonard paddock. When I was a young man, only 23 years old, 865 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:07,140 I joined the Communist Party. I was a member of the National 866 00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:11,190 Executive Committee of the American Young Communist League. 867 00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:18,120 And 1930. I was official Congress candidate for election 868 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:23,790 to New York State Assembly. I knew Gus Hall, and other top 869 00:56:23,790 --> 00:56:29,610 rank of American Communist farewell. Because I trained with 870 00:56:29,610 --> 00:56:36,090 them at 11 unit University in Moscow. I joined the party 871 00:56:36,090 --> 00:56:40,830 because I honestly thought because we're trying to help 872 00:56:40,830 --> 00:56:47,130 American Negro broke away from the party. When it became clear 873 00:56:47,130 --> 00:56:52,410 to me, what it comes we're really up to was to use the 874 00:56:52,410 --> 00:56:56,280 Negro people in this country, and a violent and bloody 875 00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:03,690 revolution aimed at this 1000 of American Soviet dictatorship. It 876 00:57:03,690 --> 00:57:08,490 was that simple. And just still that simple today, make no 877 00:57:08,490 --> 00:57:12,780 mistake about it. What is happening in the United States 878 00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:17,460 right now, under the banner of civil rights, is exactly what 879 00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:23,220 had happened in China, and Cuba, Nigeria, and many other places 880 00:57:23,220 --> 00:57:24,210 around the world. 881 00:57:25,410 --> 00:57:27,990 Like ringing bell, my head's exploding here. I was just 882 00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:30,630 looking at his Wikipedia page, it will be in the show notes. 883 00:57:32,070 --> 00:57:37,140 Wow, this guy is fantastic. What a what a great guy. 30s. We're 884 00:57:37,140 --> 00:57:42,060 talking Yeah, holy crap. This is great. All his papers are 885 00:57:42,060 --> 00:57:47,670 Howard University. I think this was a great example of one of 886 00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:51,570 the sharecroppers mentality that these communists are here to 887 00:57:51,570 --> 00:57:57,780 help us. And when you really understand the ideology, it's 888 00:57:57,930 --> 00:58:02,220 always gonna be losers. It's always gonna be losers in every 889 00:58:02,220 --> 00:58:07,980 system. And take take the man's word for it. It's not like he 890 00:58:07,980 --> 00:58:11,130 was, you know, I mean, we hear that right from the horse's 891 00:58:11,130 --> 00:58:19,470 mouth. So I think we talked about he will be considered the 892 00:58:19,470 --> 00:58:23,700 first wave in the recent event, that people on the ground 893 00:58:25,020 --> 00:58:32,130 getting it all round up bringing attention in using propaganda to 894 00:58:32,130 --> 00:58:37,290 draw attention to the you know, a case like this, Mike, 895 00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:40,290 George floors will be black ink of the day, getting getting 896 00:58:40,290 --> 00:58:40,680 started. 897 00:58:41,130 --> 00:58:45,660 But he's first wave, he's first way wouldn't be the second way, 898 00:58:45,660 --> 00:58:49,440 which is the provocateur. He's the criminal element, he's the 899 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,220 first wave, we'll 900 00:58:50,220 --> 00:58:52,110 call them the proxy, the proxy, 901 00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:58,320 right. So let's listen to how they will operate then and even 902 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,290 how similar it sounds to now, when I was 903 00:59:01,290 --> 00:59:09,720 getting comments in my mind, and body of using honest grievances, 904 00:59:10,140 --> 00:59:16,530 and smokescreen, to cover up the true nature of the revolution. 905 00:59:17,370 --> 00:59:21,270 We're taught how to use propaganda, around the most not 906 00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:26,610 a massive one group against each other. And to make them hate 907 00:59:26,610 --> 00:59:31,320 each other. We learn this intensity of having martyrs and 908 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,100 we weren't even allowed to create our own market. The veg 909 00:59:35,100 --> 00:59:41,190 did not result from that and we were getting large masses of 910 00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:46,590 people and to do street marches and demonstrations. And finally, 911 00:59:47,250 --> 00:59:51,240 we weren't struggling way to figure out right, and make them 912 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:57,150 spread and to keep them going. When I returned to Georgia 913 00:59:57,150 --> 01:00:02,070 State, I was gonna give them practical plaintiffs participate 914 01:00:02,070 --> 01:00:05,220 in so called non violent demonstrations. Several 915 01:00:05,220 --> 01:00:10,950 deliberately calculated white people enter violence against 916 01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:11,220 us. 917 01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:18,990 Wow. Here's what he basically said we are trained Marxists. 918 01:00:22,050 --> 01:00:29,340 Wow, I love that. That's good. But uh, Jim, I hadn't heard of 919 01:00:29,340 --> 01:00:32,310 William L. Patterson. What a gem of a guy. He's written a lot of 920 01:00:32,310 --> 01:00:32,910 books. 921 01:00:33,810 --> 01:00:39,990 He sent us on his grievances and popular slogans. So check back 922 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:47,310 set one group against another with hatred, check, and how to 923 01:00:47,310 --> 01:00:52,230 kick off riots and get people to the streets check. Wow, sounds 924 01:00:52,230 --> 01:00:53,460 like the same playbook to me. 925 01:00:53,790 --> 01:00:57,600 There is no before Yeah. Oh man. It's beautiful. So now we 926 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:02,130 have the question ourselves is this playbook, hag alien, a 927 01:01:02,130 --> 01:01:02,940 hegemony 928 01:01:03,450 --> 01:01:07,590 and that you and the bubble around you, or what bar do calls 929 01:01:07,620 --> 01:01:11,130 the habitus and the habitus provides us with a way to 930 01:01:11,130 --> 01:01:16,560 measure and gauge where you are, and the network of culture. This 931 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,920 network in turn, which is made up of millions of little 932 01:01:20,070 --> 01:01:23,610 habitats, Bubbles, is the overall mechanism which decides 933 01:01:23,610 --> 01:01:27,150 the course of political economic and cultural action. For 934 01:01:27,150 --> 01:01:29,910 example, if the collective habitats of a particular group 935 01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:32,790 is fashioned appropriately, then you can predict how that group 936 01:01:32,790 --> 01:01:36,090 will act towards another group, say by teaching one group to 937 01:01:36,090 --> 01:01:38,790 hate the word terrorist, and then labeling another group of 938 01:01:38,790 --> 01:01:43,410 terrorists. You can now control how both groups will act. This 939 01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:44,610 is hegemony. 940 01:01:47,610 --> 01:01:51,900 Yeah, and I say hegemony hegemony, excuse me, but this is 941 01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:57,450 a term used in Cultural Marxism. Yeah. Yeah, so, it really is the 942 01:01:57,450 --> 01:02:01,890 head of Galleon dialectic, right? I mean, you play one side 943 01:02:01,890 --> 01:02:04,260 against the other for a desired outcome. Yes, 944 01:02:04,260 --> 01:02:07,140 you have problem reaction solution? Correct. 945 01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:10,950 Let me get back to Mr. Linder Patterson. And he's going to 946 01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:13,170 talk about being in the streets 947 01:02:13,830 --> 01:02:18,840 in New York about 1935 and nigral boiler in Florida killed 948 01:02:19,380 --> 01:02:22,800 by going to the store, rather than the actual students of 949 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,520 merchandise. Communist Party headquarters decide to marry 950 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:31,500 Martin's boy. So we went right to work pretty loud handbills. 951 01:02:33,210 --> 01:02:36,960 And less than I have our after we started that was a race run. 952 01:02:38,490 --> 01:02:43,980 completely smashed on wonders of Whitestone looting the rest. Not 953 01:02:43,980 --> 01:02:47,820 picking a bank I read about visa bank I've personally 954 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:56,700 participated in the US arouse emotion on a massive one group 955 01:02:56,700 --> 01:03:00,900 against the other and to make them hate each other. We learn 956 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:06,180 to have in mind Martin, and we're even going to create a bed 957 01:03:06,180 --> 01:03:09,540 getting automatically result from the atmosphere of hatred. 958 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,410 I love this. So they back then they were just sitting around 959 01:03:13,410 --> 01:03:16,950 waiting for something to happen. Boom, martyr that kid. Okay. 960 01:03:17,010 --> 01:03:20,520 Same thing. Oh, yes. We don't have to leave the house. You sit 961 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,080 on the online look at Twitter. 962 01:03:22,770 --> 01:03:25,530 Right but they were using the same same tactics because they 963 01:03:25,530 --> 01:03:28,590 can handle deals are basically handouts. So it's their 964 01:03:28,590 --> 01:03:31,860 handouts. You have social media posts, right? Getting people 965 01:03:31,860 --> 01:03:36,750 motivated. So saying the same exact tactics. I want to go back 966 01:03:36,750 --> 01:03:39,000 to hedge money right quick because one point I wanted to 967 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:44,490 make, and this is not only with race, oh, people had to be aware 968 01:03:44,490 --> 01:03:49,500 of when they're getting sucked in until a war Yeah. Where this 969 01:03:49,500 --> 01:03:55,530 race, gender or generation days or three fronts that these wars 970 01:03:55,530 --> 01:03:58,620 are being fought on right now. We dispatch our shows 971 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,880 specifically speaks really to race and common gender, but even 972 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,450 with the Boulay I mean you have the boomers and you have the 973 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,440 millennials well that that in the ratio itself as well 974 01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:13,560 it's also an overarching and I think that's what's been done so 975 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,740 expertly well throughout throughout time, is you just 976 01:04:16,740 --> 01:04:21,870 boil it down to red and blue. That and then all these groups 977 01:04:21,870 --> 01:04:25,680 fit in red and all these groups fit in blue and that's the meta 978 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,490 conduct the meta system up at top which makes it a lot easier 979 01:04:29,550 --> 01:04:31,950 and you can always break down and target your little groups 980 01:04:31,950 --> 01:04:33,510 underneath with their own little issue. 981 01:04:34,740 --> 01:04:37,740 Yeah, and then you can also divide it as we've seen here, 982 01:04:38,460 --> 01:04:43,470 one group you can you can slice and dice in terms of you can say 983 01:04:43,470 --> 01:04:46,920 okay, now we got black against white. Let's turn the blacks 984 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:51,810 against the blacks. So now you got demand against the woman 985 01:04:51,810 --> 01:04:54,240 right, you got the boomer against the millennial. I mean, 986 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,730 if what you're hearing now is right, that's right. You hear a 987 01:04:56,730 --> 01:05:00,060 lot of the boomers saying and it seemed Molinos saying what The 988 01:05:00,060 --> 01:05:01,230 Boomers dropped the ball. 989 01:05:01,410 --> 01:05:06,090 So so really identity politics is just a code word for Marxism. 990 01:05:06,510 --> 01:05:10,680 Correct? Yep. And then it starts to splinter out into his own 991 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,670 specific forms. As we talked about cultural Marxism. They're 992 01:05:14,670 --> 01:05:17,070 also a thing called Black Marxism. 993 01:05:17,310 --> 01:05:20,280 Now black boxes have appeared justice struggles against racial 994 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:25,650 capitalism, war, and patriarchy were actually ramping up in the 995 01:05:25,830 --> 01:05:30,570 1980s, in the global economic slump, like the 70s, had opened 996 01:05:30,570 --> 01:05:34,440 the door for an expansion of neoliberal policies already 997 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,680 being implemented in the global south. So the economic crisis 998 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,740 has also opened the door for privatizing public assets, for 999 01:05:40,740 --> 01:05:43,920 the devolution of the welfare state from prison expansion, 1000 01:05:44,070 --> 01:05:47,790 making tax codes that benefit the rich. And again, this is not 1001 01:05:47,790 --> 01:05:53,520 a Republican strategy. This is, you know, it's like every party, 1002 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,210 every ruling party in the United States from the 1970s, 1003 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,230 consistently supported neoliberal policies. And in 1004 01:06:01,230 --> 01:06:04,830 fact, the triumph of racial liberalism can be said, help 1005 01:06:04,830 --> 01:06:08,820 usher in the rise of mass incarceration, and the deepening 1006 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,990 criminalization of urban space in the post world war two 1007 01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:21,120 period. Now, we know now that liberals also back and expanding 1008 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,390 criminal justice system, you know, ostensibly to protect 1009 01:06:24,390 --> 01:06:27,810 African Americans from mob violence but and to address what 1010 01:06:27,810 --> 01:06:31,350 was perceived to be rising crime rates, following desegregation, 1011 01:06:31,350 --> 01:06:35,730 but as a consequence, liberals, not just conservatives helped 1012 01:06:35,730 --> 01:06:38,940 create the criminal justice architecture that fueled mass 1013 01:06:38,940 --> 01:06:39,810 incarceration. 1014 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:42,660 This is the world 1015 01:06:43,890 --> 01:06:48,060 that young activists inherited the ones that we're dealing with 1016 01:06:48,060 --> 01:06:49,290 today, the inheritance world. 1017 01:06:50,610 --> 01:06:56,250 Wow. I've heard you made mention before and like in the 1980s, 1018 01:06:56,250 --> 01:07:01,530 the Democratic Party became more of a party for businesses, well, 1019 01:07:01,530 --> 01:07:02,730 maybe not the businesses, 1020 01:07:03,030 --> 01:07:06,780 I would say the 90s with the Clintons, the Clintons decided 1021 01:07:06,780 --> 01:07:11,850 to fundraise instead of from unions necessarily, really went, 1022 01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:14,850 they went all corporatist. And that, of course, is when China 1023 01:07:14,850 --> 01:07:19,560 also came into play another fine Marxist slash communist partner 1024 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,750 in this whole game, who's already been mentioned in an 1025 01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:22,470 earlier clip. 1026 01:07:24,750 --> 01:07:29,580 So I think this is where the special brand of Marxism called 1027 01:07:29,580 --> 01:07:33,300 Black Marxism had come about, because you start seeing this 1028 01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:39,090 beef between the far left and liberals right, which is right 1029 01:07:39,090 --> 01:07:44,160 of the far left. Yeah. They want to be more become more corporate 1030 01:07:44,190 --> 01:07:49,950 focus. Party, and now they're having to come back around and 1031 01:07:49,950 --> 01:07:53,100 why you see a Joe Biden that was in the 70s. He was they went 1032 01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:56,520 away from compassion and rehabilitation, to lock, lock 1033 01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,300 them up. I don't care how they got there. Bring him to here 1034 01:08:00,300 --> 01:08:04,920 right. Now they've been bid to the will of the Marxist saying, 1035 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,190 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you still need us don't know ever 1036 01:08:08,190 --> 01:08:09,270 get it twisted, right? 1037 01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:12,930 And do it without us. And here's how we do it. Watch this. 1038 01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:18,930 Right. And the corporation's are activating the Marxist. Yeah. I 1039 01:08:18,930 --> 01:08:20,070 want to make this point clear 1040 01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:23,160 test. It's so beautiful. The capitalist corporations are 1041 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:27,270 activating and actively funding the Marxists. Yes, this is a 1042 01:08:27,270 --> 01:08:29,580 genius. This is so smart. 1043 01:08:30,210 --> 01:08:33,660 Because this is corporate warfare, even though a spot on 1044 01:08:33,660 --> 01:08:38,970 the streets is corporate warfare. Because what represent 1045 01:08:38,970 --> 01:08:44,010 capitalism, white men, specifically old white men, so 1046 01:08:44,010 --> 01:08:47,700 if you can get old white man to be shamed, or removed from the 1047 01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:51,090 boards of directors, you can get money, you can you can get the 1048 01:08:51,090 --> 01:08:54,510 older model. You can load up the board of directors with whoever 1049 01:08:54,510 --> 01:08:56,610 you want to be seen as not. 1050 01:08:56,910 --> 01:09:00,720 Wow, that is something Kanye said yesterday during his rally. 1051 01:09:01,260 --> 01:09:02,250 And I didn't even hear it. 1052 01:09:03,330 --> 01:09:06,750 He said, I'm on not on the board of the gap. I'm not on the board 1053 01:09:06,750 --> 01:09:10,170 of Puma. We're changing that. That's got to happen now right 1054 01:09:10,170 --> 01:09:13,410 now is what he said yesterday. All right. Interesting. 1055 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,930 So this is we're witnessing a I think this is the response not 1056 01:09:18,930 --> 01:09:22,260 to get too far ahead of myself. You know, we're in a trade war 1057 01:09:22,260 --> 01:09:26,160 right now. Yeah, I think this is the response to the trade war, 1058 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,430 but instead of being fought in the board rooms in negotiating 1059 01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:36,360 rooms, they're fighting on the streets of America. Wow. Yes, 1060 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,900 no, that made me sound far fetched. But that's that's what 1061 01:09:39,900 --> 01:09:40,500 I truly believe. 1062 01:09:40,650 --> 01:09:43,710 I got to get my head around that but I like it. But there's 1063 01:09:46,170 --> 01:09:50,190 that's very interesting. Okay, I got to think about that one. 1064 01:09:50,190 --> 01:09:50,730 That's a good one. 1065 01:09:52,529 --> 01:09:57,509 Think about it. But um, we'll get to another expert on the 1066 01:09:57,509 --> 01:10:01,829 topic of black Marxism. This is Bill Fletcher Jr. And he's also 1067 01:10:01,829 --> 01:10:02,909 a professor as well, 1068 01:10:03,180 --> 01:10:06,480 particularly, for example, on the issue of race, and what has 1069 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:10,710 been always called the national economy all questions you had, I 1070 01:10:10,710 --> 01:10:15,990 believe, have profound influence on Marxism, from Africa, from 1071 01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:21,150 Latin America from Asia, what has always irritated me, in the 1072 01:10:21,150 --> 01:10:24,480 Black Freedom Movement is that whenever I encountered someone 1073 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:31,050 who says, well, Marxism is a white man's theory. And, and 1074 01:10:31,050 --> 01:10:34,980 that's like absurd. Because when you look at the contributions 1075 01:10:34,980 --> 01:10:38,730 that have been made to Marxism, by people of African descent, 1076 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:45,210 it's just simply amazing. I look at Marxism as a theory of 1077 01:10:45,210 --> 01:10:53,310 emancipation. It is, it is a framework for analyzing history, 1078 01:10:53,310 --> 01:10:58,710 analyzing society, and a method of thinking. Now, one of the 1079 01:10:58,710 --> 01:11:02,940 problems that we faced was the rise of post modernism, which I 1080 01:11:02,940 --> 01:11:09,510 would argue as has been a cancer in the left and has taken people 1081 01:11:09,630 --> 01:11:14,310 beginning with in some ways, accurate critiques of economic 1082 01:11:14,310 --> 01:11:20,940 determinism in Marxism. It then has taken people in this 1083 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:27,000 direction of almost romanticizing defeat. 1084 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:35,850 Wow. So So one point he made was white Marxism is seen to be a 1085 01:11:35,850 --> 01:11:41,790 white man's theory. Yeah. But he, in black Marxism, they want 1086 01:11:41,790 --> 01:11:46,290 to say that, no, no, no, no, no, plenty of black people have 1087 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,290 quote, unquote, black people who have contributed to Marxism, and 1088 01:11:49,290 --> 01:11:54,690 we need our credit. Another tenant of black Marxism is that 1089 01:11:55,260 --> 01:12:01,500 the white workers can't relate to the grievances that the black 1090 01:12:01,500 --> 01:12:04,560 workers have different grievance is their sheer, let's just call 1091 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,200 it their so their sheer whiteness, right? I'm sorry, 1092 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:11,130 yes. There's no, you can't do that. It's impossible. Yes. 1093 01:12:11,340 --> 01:12:15,540 Yeah. You can't identify with my struggle, right? Because it's 1094 01:12:15,540 --> 01:12:20,640 different here. So that's why you have this separation, even 1095 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,930 within Marxism, black Marxism. Is this whole, this whole thing 1096 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:29,370 is a whole separate thing. I just want to make people 1097 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,070 right, but it doesn't, it doesn't really differ other than 1098 01:12:32,730 --> 01:12:35,790 it's just the same basic ideology, just with different 1099 01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:36,660 issues at hand. 1100 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:39,960 It's just a Galeon. Dividing. 1101 01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:45,240 Division, of course, of course, if we ever need to, we can pit 1102 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,610 these two against each other inside our own house. Yeah, 1103 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:48,270 perfect. 1104 01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:51,480 Yeah, and that's what you have now controlled. 1105 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,000 Okay, of course, and I understand. So you, then you 1106 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,220 have two parties, you can control them both because you 1107 01:12:56,220 --> 01:12:58,620 know the outcome and therefore you control the whole bit 1108 01:12:58,620 --> 01:13:00,060 because it's all yours to start with. 1109 01:13:00,570 --> 01:13:03,930 Right? Because you have black lives matter or black ink. We 1110 01:13:03,930 --> 01:13:07,560 say that you have black ink dragging and white layer Yes. 1111 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:08,190 far though. And 1112 01:13:08,190 --> 01:13:11,160 we're already in we're already seeing this on the streets. 1113 01:13:11,250 --> 01:13:14,310 Where's there's confusion? It's being played against each other? 1114 01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:16,980 Oh, this is great. This is very, very good. 1115 01:13:17,370 --> 01:13:23,310 So we have to understand all the players in the game. Now so 1116 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,440 first mission about the straight this cisgendered black male. 1117 01:13:28,860 --> 01:13:33,840 Yeah, and we seen a so called member of Black Lives Matter. 1118 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:38,370 Rise up name halt. Newsom, have you seen Newsom before Adam? 1119 01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:40,830 No, I don't think so. We're what I've seen him 1120 01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:46,050 okay Hawk Newsom he you've seen him I was assumed but you 1121 01:13:46,050 --> 01:13:49,380 probably just didn't recognize them. tall black guy wears black 1122 01:13:49,380 --> 01:13:52,740 shades bald head. And the funny thing is he kind of looks like 1123 01:13:52,740 --> 01:13:56,070 hot from Spitzer for hire, which which Oh, 1124 01:13:56,070 --> 01:13:59,820 really now which we just talked him on a lot. Yeah. 1125 01:14:00,510 --> 01:14:03,360 We spoke about him on last show and I looked at him again I was 1126 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,470 like how wrong he is almost the you know this. 1127 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,520 Oh, yeah, no, I've seen this guy know who he is. I'm looking at 1128 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,460 him now Hawk Newsom okay, yes, I got it. I know he's names 1129 01:14:14,460 --> 01:14:16,770 halt. The other game guys name halt. 1130 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,820 That's some programming right there, huh? 1131 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:26,100 I would think so. But let's get into the clip of hot new sumo 1132 01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:28,290 reforming law enforcement in the black community. 1133 01:14:28,410 --> 01:14:31,860 Protesters in American streets are calling for the country to 1134 01:14:31,860 --> 01:14:35,880 address our racial tensions, both current inequities and 1135 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:40,320 contentious symbols of America's past. But how to do that is a 1136 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,500 key question. For one perspective. Let's begin with 1137 01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:48,300 Hawk Newsom, head of Black Lives Matter writer in New York. Mr. 1138 01:14:48,300 --> 01:14:52,020 Newsome you created quite a stir this week when you spoke with my 1139 01:14:52,020 --> 01:14:54,450 colleague Martha McCallum. Let's take a look at what she has 1140 01:14:54,450 --> 01:14:54,810 said. 1141 01:14:55,530 --> 01:14:59,400 If this country doesn't give us what we want, then we will end 1142 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:03,150 down this History and replace it. All right and I can be 1143 01:15:03,150 --> 01:15:06,480 speaking physically, figuratively, I can be speaking 1144 01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:09,030 literally it's a matter of interpretation. 1145 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,310 Afterward, President Trump tweeted his reaction to your 1146 01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:18,930 statement. This is treason, sedition, insurrection. 1147 01:15:19,470 --> 01:15:23,730 Question, sir. What do you accomplish with rhetoric like 1148 01:15:23,730 --> 01:15:25,170 that? How do you think that helps? 1149 01:15:26,850 --> 01:15:33,360 Well, here's the thing. A lot of people don't understand how the 1150 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:38,340 streets or the people feel. I have a in depth knowledge of 1151 01:15:38,340 --> 01:15:41,400 this. I live in the Bronx, I live amongst the people. So it's 1152 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,640 not like I'm sitting here pushing a button or anyone can 1153 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,880 push that button. But if people keep seeing these images of 1154 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,540 their babies of their relatives of black people being killed, 1155 01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:56,490 they keep dealing with financial inequality and an equity and it 1156 01:15:56,490 --> 01:16:01,020 reaches a point of frustration, then people lash out this is a 1157 01:16:01,020 --> 01:16:05,160 matter of inevitability that people will lash out because 1158 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,950 they're feeling like they're backed into a corner. 1159 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,910 Okay, yes, I remember this quote I remember seeing it thinking 1160 01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:15,240 hmm gotta look into that and something else happened but from 1161 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:19,260 it from his Wikipedia page so the hawk similar similarity 1162 01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:24,630 doesn't end there as a cast member on cop watch America. 1163 01:16:25,710 --> 01:16:29,940 So he he plays it basically use the word now he played the it 1164 01:16:29,940 --> 01:16:34,980 was actually a reality type series, where they did what the 1165 01:16:34,980 --> 01:16:37,800 black what they did with the Black Panthers did they would 1166 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,890 basically go out and record cops, oh, interactive. 1167 01:16:41,970 --> 01:16:49,920 But now but here, but here we have a statement from from the 1168 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,130 managing director of Black Lives Matter global network. So that 1169 01:16:53,130 --> 01:16:56,550 is black ink, says Hank Newsom has no relation to the Black 1170 01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:59,220 Lives Matter global network founded by Patrice colors, 1171 01:16:59,220 --> 01:17:03,690 Alicia Garza and Opal tomasetti. And is not the president of BLM 1172 01:17:03,690 --> 01:17:05,250 or any of its chapters. 1173 01:17:06,660 --> 01:17:12,060 So he's, he's fake, but he's fake black ink. Yeah. And they 1174 01:17:12,060 --> 01:17:15,690 use this as opportunity to demo demonize him, and 1175 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,420 oh, and he goes in and says, We're gonna burn it down. We're 1176 01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:19,230 horrible. 1177 01:17:19,740 --> 01:17:23,040 Right? But that's bad for business. Yes. They're in the 1178 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,700 same position that Rosa Parks has to be in. Oh, we can't be 1179 01:17:26,700 --> 01:17:30,990 close to the violence, you know, the course, is bad for the 1180 01:17:30,990 --> 01:17:31,470 brand, 1181 01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:34,110 right. That's why we didn't see him anymore. He's got he's gone. 1182 01:17:34,140 --> 01:17:36,000 He's gone. I haven't seen him yet. 1183 01:17:36,420 --> 01:17:39,810 Actually, this was done on Fox News. So that was the only place 1184 01:17:39,810 --> 01:17:44,160 you could find that that will even bring him on to make let 1185 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,420 him clarify his statement. 1186 01:17:45,450 --> 01:17:47,910 And don't think that you don't underestimate that as a 1187 01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:48,750 coincidence. 1188 01:17:49,260 --> 01:17:52,380 I was not I mean, he's a knockoff. He's a knockoff Black 1189 01:17:52,380 --> 01:17:55,770 Lives Matter. So like now, we only want the real McCoy with 1190 01:17:55,770 --> 01:18:03,090 Fox News. Us. Thank you use him to spin their narrative, right. 1191 01:18:03,090 --> 01:18:03,450 And 1192 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,560 which was horrible, because he's spun the wrong narrative. So I'm 1193 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,420 just saying that groups everywhere 1194 01:18:09,660 --> 01:18:12,840 is a two for one, you get to call them out as fate fate black 1195 01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:16,020 ink. And then they also could demonize this black male as 1196 01:18:16,020 --> 01:18:16,620 being violent. 1197 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:21,600 Yes. Fantastic. What a great, great decoy and he's gone. He's 1198 01:18:21,630 --> 01:18:23,160 they probably locked him in the freezer. 1199 01:18:24,180 --> 01:18:28,620 Either here. So I guess we can get into 2.1 When Mr. Newsome 1200 01:18:28,830 --> 01:18:35,370 but just two years ago, back in 2018, you gave a TED talk, in 1201 01:18:35,370 --> 01:18:39,000 which you preach nonviolence and talked about how during the 1202 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:43,080 riots in Baltimore, over the death of Freddie Gray, you tried 1203 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,230 to stop the violence. I'm going to play a clip of you from just 1204 01:18:46,230 --> 01:18:47,010 two years ago. 1205 01:18:48,510 --> 01:18:53,310 Do you have love in your hearts? Do you love your neighbor? Do 1206 01:18:53,310 --> 01:18:58,590 you believe in the Bible? The Quran? Do you believe in your 1207 01:18:58,590 --> 01:19:02,070 religious teachings because I guarantee you all of them tell 1208 01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:05,220 you to help your neighbor? 1209 01:19:07,470 --> 01:19:11,640 That man wouldn't have talked about working to burn down the 1210 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:12,780 system. What happened? 1211 01:19:16,740 --> 01:19:20,070 Let me tell you what happened. Let me let me ask you that, Mr. 1212 01:19:23,310 --> 01:19:30,180 One, this guy after the whole first round 2015 2016 He started 1213 01:19:30,180 --> 01:19:33,270 meeting with Trump supporters and he was on stage and do a TED 1214 01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:40,170 talks in the middle of the rose dance. Yeah. Then after George 1215 01:19:40,170 --> 01:19:42,810 Floyd, he was radicalized. Yeah. 1216 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,920 New, new script. All right, let's go 1217 01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:49,860 and we saw the same radicalisation is with Nick 1218 01:19:49,860 --> 01:19:53,610 Cannon which we're going to save for a later date to talk about 1219 01:19:53,610 --> 01:19:57,510 on this show. But can we get a cancellation cannon? Castle 1220 01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:58,890 cannon for Nick Cannon please got it. 1221 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,850 Welcome and cancelled, he is. Yeah, he's 1222 01:20:05,850 --> 01:20:11,880 out here. What happens here is when they start to radicalize 1223 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:16,200 people with this media coverage, it gives black people a false 1224 01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,370 sense of security, that they can open up and tell you everything 1225 01:20:20,370 --> 01:20:25,050 that's on their mind without any repercussions. Replica 1226 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:30,240 repercussions, right? This was happened to haul. The guy got 1227 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,270 the feeling got good to him. He's like, Yeah, we'll burn it 1228 01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:36,990 down. And they're like, no, no, no, no, 1229 01:20:36,990 --> 01:20:38,940 that's not gonna work. No, you 1230 01:20:38,940 --> 01:20:41,580 went too far on that? Well, it may got him up out of here. 1231 01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:46,350 Because I was looking at the TEDx. So not really a TED talk, 1232 01:20:46,350 --> 01:20:51,690 but a TEDx is billed as the same in 2018, and is there he's local 1233 01:20:51,690 --> 01:20:54,540 chapter, black lives matter. So I'm sure he was in the group. I 1234 01:20:54,540 --> 01:20:58,590 mean, you're totally right. He was down. He may still only been 1235 01:20:58,590 --> 01:21:01,590 claiming at the time, but they cut him off real quick after 1236 01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:02,850 that burning down stuff. 1237 01:21:03,450 --> 01:21:06,810 Yeah, they let him speak on their behalf because he kind of 1238 01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:10,620 was good for good. He filled that gap they needed like, 1239 01:21:10,620 --> 01:21:13,830 where's your black male leadership? Oh, yeah. But he 1240 01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:17,460 wasn't really affiliated so they can easily cut ties with them. 1241 01:21:18,150 --> 01:21:22,770 Anytime they want to right. Now, we're gonna see I was this guy 1242 01:21:22,770 --> 01:21:24,510 speaking for Fox. I lost his name. 1243 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:26,190 Wallace, 1244 01:21:26,190 --> 01:21:29,580 I think it's Chris Wallace. Okay, Chris Wallace. Now Chris 1245 01:21:29,580 --> 01:21:32,700 Wallace is going to use a very familiar tactic that I've talked 1246 01:21:32,700 --> 01:21:35,670 about on this show is called the MLK trigger. 1247 01:21:36,540 --> 01:21:41,970 There has been a split in the, in the civil rights movement, 1248 01:21:41,970 --> 01:21:44,580 the African American community for at least a half a century 1249 01:21:44,580 --> 01:21:50,160 now between Malcolm X and by any means necessary on the one hand, 1250 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:54,180 and Martin Luther King and working through the system on 1251 01:21:54,180 --> 01:21:59,160 the other didn't MLK got a lot more done, in a practical sense. 1252 01:22:00,390 --> 01:22:04,140 Believe that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a brilliant 1253 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:09,750 strategist, especially in the form of media savvy, but Well, 1254 01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:15,090 we have to understand is black people do not trust politicians. 1255 01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:19,140 They don't trust black. They don't trust Democrats. They 1256 01:22:19,140 --> 01:22:23,520 don't trust Republicans. Black people also have a problem with 1257 01:22:23,670 --> 01:22:26,640 the government overstepping its bounds, the biggest Madison 1258 01:22:26,670 --> 01:22:30,480 manifestation of debt is policing. So if you want to make 1259 01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:33,120 government smaller, then you address police on that scale. If 1260 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,990 you talk about the rift in the civil rights movement, our 1261 01:22:37,620 --> 01:22:40,800 elders, a lot of them have been bought off by the Democratic 1262 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,210 establishment. Right. And they pretty much go with the flow of 1263 01:22:45,210 --> 01:22:46,560 the Democratic establishment. 1264 01:22:47,790 --> 01:22:52,140 Wow. Way to get well, she's speaking some truth. There. 1265 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,710 He is. And that's what probably got more counseled in the 1266 01:22:55,710 --> 01:22:56,340 morning. Now. 1267 01:22:57,630 --> 01:23:00,270 That's not that's not really the talking point, Hawk. 1268 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,720 Right. Could we at the end of the day, the goal is to get 1269 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,450 black people out and vote. So you can't be out here saying all 1270 01:23:06,450 --> 01:23:11,220 the Democrats, that's wrong, we're bought off. Wrong Wrong. I 1271 01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:13,740 think when he's talking about the democratic ills being bought 1272 01:23:13,740 --> 01:23:18,180 off by them, by the black elders being bought off by Democrats, 1273 01:23:18,450 --> 01:23:22,110 he's referring to Malcolm X comments about Martin Luther 1274 01:23:22,110 --> 01:23:30,060 King, and him being him being bought off by the liberals. And 1275 01:23:30,060 --> 01:23:33,300 this is the trigger I'm talking about. Well, isn't isn't it 1276 01:23:33,300 --> 01:23:36,720 more, you know, MLK got more done, you know, you don't want 1277 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,110 to arm yourself and protect you. He was 1278 01:23:40,110 --> 01:23:40,890 peaceful. 1279 01:23:42,300 --> 01:23:46,020 I hope people are seeing now how the trigger is led this is why 1280 01:23:46,050 --> 01:23:50,130 MLK the product can never go away. And this is why they'll 1281 01:23:50,130 --> 01:23:54,510 protect them to the end of his communist socialist affiliations 1282 01:23:54,510 --> 01:23:58,140 because he's way more valuable. Yeah, no controlling black 1283 01:23:58,140 --> 01:24:03,840 people. How they paid it. MLK gets Malcolm X to say, oh, you 1284 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,020 know, MLK was so much Duchess want a cup of coffee at the 1285 01:24:07,020 --> 01:24:11,220 Woolworths counter? You don't want it good. Do you don't want 1286 01:24:11,220 --> 01:24:13,800 to kind of protect yourself? Yeah, this this is what I'm 1287 01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,160 talking about. This is the MLK. I have I found I haven't found a 1288 01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:21,660 greater example of them using the trigger to make black people 1289 01:24:21,660 --> 01:24:30,240 docile than this. Exactly. Well, you export Mr. Curry, and to 1290 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:34,800 speak to the armed black people arming themselves and compare 1291 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:39,630 MLK to Malcolm X. Let's listen to a throwback clip from 43 Wit 1292 01:24:39,630 --> 01:24:40,800 resting in MLK. 1293 01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:44,130 My man Ruston. Here we go. What do you want 1294 01:24:45,570 --> 01:24:50,760 to see Dr. King now So who is it? Good evening, Mrs. King 1295 01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:51,600 Byard Reston. 1296 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,100 Aston is here that I guess we've arrived 1297 01:25:08,550 --> 01:25:12,930 you stray from the principles of non violence and you're the 1298 01:25:12,930 --> 01:25:16,140 leader of a nonviolent movement. And yet you have guns in your 1299 01:25:16,140 --> 01:25:18,720 home and these armed guards outside. 1300 01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,240 Let me ask you something. Mr. Ruston? Would you risk your 1301 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,510 family for attacking from violence is not the time would 1302 01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:32,550 you risk your violence, isn't it? I have an obligation family. 1303 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,390 Well, the guns don't make me feel any safer. 1304 01:25:40,170 --> 01:25:44,760 Oh, that's great. Yeah, so there he is that and that was the real 1305 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:46,800 the real power came in was Roston 1306 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,310 you her with me. Okay. This of course, this is from a movie 1307 01:25:50,340 --> 01:25:58,860 called boycott. But it's biographical pic. So it's should 1308 01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:02,940 be accurate. And of course readings, things out read 1309 01:26:02,940 --> 01:26:06,930 support this notion about want to point out to people. You see 1310 01:26:06,930 --> 01:26:12,240 the LGBT? Yeah. And the women Yes, teaming up again. Now mo K 1311 01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:15,360 is the leader of this by the narrative. He's the leader of 1312 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,780 this whole Civil Rights Movement. And they're 1313 01:26:18,780 --> 01:26:22,290 questioning his tactics and his his his decision making. He's 1314 01:26:22,290 --> 01:26:25,830 like, Oh, well, how does it good enough? Make you feel safer? I 1315 01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:30,180 don't know that. I don't how to get my head around that. Right, 1316 01:26:30,180 --> 01:26:33,900 but we got to say that they are Russian was a clear and open 1317 01:26:34,020 --> 01:26:34,830 communist. 1318 01:26:35,370 --> 01:26:39,750 Well, not only that, but and this is why I brought it up 1319 01:26:39,780 --> 01:26:47,220 earlier. But also, while at the time, every every LGBTQIA P k 1320 01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:51,270 plus had to be kind of quiet about it. And he wasn't that 1321 01:26:51,270 --> 01:26:58,500 quiet about it now? Oh, no. In 2004, I think was 13 Obama 1322 01:26:59,670 --> 01:27:02,880 honored Bayard Rustin posthumously. Was it possible 1323 01:27:02,910 --> 01:27:05,670 that yes, I surprised with it well, but it was with the 1324 01:27:06,060 --> 01:27:11,580 Presidential Medal of Freedom. But in 2019 Congress awarded him 1325 01:27:13,890 --> 01:27:20,220 for Well, here's the headline honoring an unsung LGBTQ hero so 1326 01:27:20,220 --> 01:27:27,030 Bayard Rustin, also got honored for his sexuality posthumously. 1327 01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,020 Just recently, though, which I thought was kind of interesting. 1328 01:27:32,250 --> 01:27:34,680 What they're probably trying to bring him back to the forefront 1329 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,230 and you know, the control mechanisms. I mean, they have to 1330 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:38,670 these are their heroes. And he's 1331 01:27:38,670 --> 01:27:42,270 perfect. He's perfect as the you know, to use just like for 1332 01:27:42,270 --> 01:27:45,450 African Americans now we can use with LGBTQ because he was 1333 01:27:45,450 --> 01:27:48,630 actually the guy side by side. Beautiful. 1334 01:27:48,660 --> 01:27:52,710 Well, when you got to come as we move through, you know, the 1335 01:27:52,710 --> 01:27:55,470 future. You're going to be hearing more and more. Well, he 1336 01:27:55,470 --> 01:27:58,590 led King Yep, there you go. Because you're gonna have the 1337 01:27:58,620 --> 01:28:02,790 There you go. We have this cisgender male. He was nothing 1338 01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:06,690 without br leading him. And then that's where we're headed. 1339 01:28:07,380 --> 01:28:09,120 You're so right. Sadly, she 1340 01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,240 might get a trigger warning. Please, if you can dig it up, 1341 01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:17,400 because this next clip might trigger somebody out there 1342 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,520 right, here it is, gentlemen. Yes. 1343 01:28:30,660 --> 01:28:33,990 I had to play this because of who speaks next and these next 1344 01:28:33,990 --> 01:28:41,430 to the clips? We have Gavin Gavin McInnes. Oh. You said, Oh, 1345 01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:46,770 I understand the trigger warning now. Yes, gotcha. Proud boys, 1346 01:28:46,830 --> 01:28:51,960 a member, a member of the proud boys and suspected racist. But 1347 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:56,010 he speaks on Black Lives Matters and then having daddy issues. 1348 01:28:56,220 --> 01:28:59,310 So why do the two lesbians who started Black Lives Matter? Why 1349 01:28:59,310 --> 01:29:03,060 do they love him so much? Because they hate their dads 1350 01:29:03,060 --> 01:29:07,140 too. Now, I'm gonna be sort of jumping all over the place here. 1351 01:29:07,140 --> 01:29:09,570 But before I get to them, let me just explain daddy issues. I 1352 01:29:09,570 --> 01:29:12,300 think we all know what they are. But it's a natural thing. I have 1353 01:29:12,300 --> 01:29:16,230 it. We've been getting better over time, right? 45 degree 1354 01:29:16,230 --> 01:29:20,130 angle. And so inevitably, most of us are looking into a father 1355 01:29:20,190 --> 01:29:23,400 who busted his ass worked way harder than we did. My dad's 1356 01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,760 been in 1000s of fights. I've been in like 15 And as a young 1357 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,220 man, I would look into his eyes and see disappointment. I hadn't 1358 01:29:29,220 --> 01:29:32,340 accomplished anything. I wore communism. When I told him he 1359 01:29:32,340 --> 01:29:35,040 didn't know about the working man. Fuck you, dad. That's what 1360 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,440 these riots are. That's what you're seeing on the street now. 1361 01:29:37,650 --> 01:29:39,840 They're pulling down the statues and people go that's that was an 1362 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,570 abolitionist. They don't give a shit about what the statue is. 1363 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:46,350 They give a shit about patriarchy, masculinity legacy, 1364 01:29:46,500 --> 01:29:49,020 because they know they won't have one. And they know their 1365 01:29:49,020 --> 01:29:52,380 dad did and they're pissed off about it. So what do you do when 1366 01:29:52,380 --> 01:29:54,600 someone makes you feel like a loser makes you feel 1367 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,940 disappointing? You trivialize them? 1368 01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:03,060 Oh, I'm sure shocked a black man like you mo would even play a 1369 01:30:03,060 --> 01:30:06,450 clip from this horrible racist misogynist a hall. 1370 01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,850 And my retort to that is pay attention to everything. 1371 01:30:15,599 --> 01:30:20,099 It's usually when you when something is being excoriated in 1372 01:30:20,099 --> 01:30:22,949 the mainstream, it's always worth a listen. Now, what do you 1373 01:30:22,949 --> 01:30:24,869 got to lose? You might learn something. 1374 01:30:25,679 --> 01:30:29,189 You can learn anything for anybody, either what to do or 1375 01:30:29,189 --> 01:30:33,599 what not to do, right? I don't I don't blind myself, or deaf 1376 01:30:33,599 --> 01:30:36,839 myself to voices just because they're not acceptable. Okay, 1377 01:30:36,839 --> 01:30:46,379 Boomer suicide. So he digs up a little piece of information that 1378 01:30:46,379 --> 01:30:50,069 has been scrubbed from the internet, about black lives 1379 01:30:50,069 --> 01:30:51,659 matter in this next clip, 1380 01:30:51,870 --> 01:30:54,510 Black Lives Matter has been hiding this because the people 1381 01:30:54,510 --> 01:30:57,780 are catching on. But they said that they are a they are for 1382 01:30:57,780 --> 01:31:03,030 radical social intervention. They also said, I don't know if 1383 01:31:03,030 --> 01:31:05,430 I included this. Yeah, they've removed this from their site, 1384 01:31:05,430 --> 01:31:08,910 but you can find it on way back. We are committed to disrupting 1385 01:31:08,940 --> 01:31:12,600 the Western proscribed nuclear family structure requirements by 1386 01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,930 supporting each other as extended families and villages. 1387 01:31:16,860 --> 01:31:20,220 What happens when your dad kicks you out? You say no, this is my 1388 01:31:20,220 --> 01:31:23,370 family. And what happens when you feel insecure about that and 1389 01:31:23,370 --> 01:31:27,000 wonder if it's as good as having a dad? You enforce it? And you 1390 01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,750 say no, let's destroy the family. Destroy the Father. So 1391 01:31:30,750 --> 01:31:33,900 no one can kick me out of my house for being a black lesbian 1392 01:31:33,900 --> 01:31:39,240 teen. This is all totally selfish. They collectively care 1393 01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,550 for one another, especially our children's agree that mothers 1394 01:31:41,580 --> 01:31:42,990 parents and children are comfortable. 1395 01:31:44,430 --> 01:31:48,240 Yep, mothers, parents and children. Yep. I'm gonna say it 1396 01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:52,080 again. mothers, mothers, parents and children. 1397 01:31:53,010 --> 01:31:55,140 Didn't doesn't have to be a man in that. 1398 01:31:55,740 --> 01:32:01,350 No disrupting the Western family structure, aka male leadership 1399 01:32:01,470 --> 01:32:05,100 is. That's their goal. That's key. Yeah, that's key. That's 1400 01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:08,580 whenever I hear this. That's even. Well, I wouldn't even say 1401 01:32:08,610 --> 01:32:13,140 even but Robyn D'Angelo talks about the heteronormative 1402 01:32:13,170 --> 01:32:18,510 patriarchy, that is a big part of the problem. And she had a 1403 01:32:18,540 --> 01:32:21,480 lot of problems with her father and family growing up. 1404 01:32:22,950 --> 01:32:29,940 And as I stay on this show, you know, almost no fault. It starts 1405 01:32:29,940 --> 01:32:35,880 with us. It starts with is coming for you next, who fill in 1406 01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,120 the blank, whoever it is, it starts with black people are 1407 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:43,110 quote unquote, so called black people. But it is the test room. 1408 01:32:43,140 --> 01:32:45,480 It's just the beta room. It's like, oh, yeah, we could take 1409 01:32:45,480 --> 01:32:48,090 the family out. They'll take the frog out their home, then we 1410 01:32:48,090 --> 01:32:50,760 were successful at that. All right, let's take the father's 1411 01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:51,960 out of society period. 1412 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:55,170 Wow, man will be like the Uyghurs 1413 01:32:57,300 --> 01:33:01,830 which we have to talk about them on another show? I can't do it. 1414 01:33:01,830 --> 01:33:03,150 I can't do this with you, Adam. 1415 01:33:04,770 --> 01:33:08,100 It's like, it's like rabbit hole and the rabbit hole at home like 1416 01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:10,170 Jesus Christ. I know, come up. 1417 01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,190 I did dig a lot of holes. And then I'd look at it and go toss 1418 01:33:14,190 --> 01:33:19,230 this to mow. Right? God as bad. I know. 1419 01:33:19,500 --> 01:33:23,070 I'll tease here, which I know you hate and some people love 1420 01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:32,550 Uyghurs. And we've that will be a common topic. Um, but you 1421 01:33:32,550 --> 01:33:33,810 brought me to China. 1422 01:33:34,500 --> 01:33:37,890 Hold on, hold on. I'd be we've I'm excited to hear that in the 1423 01:33:37,890 --> 01:33:38,340 future. 1424 01:33:41,970 --> 01:33:45,780 Since you took me here, I mean, you gather to me right to China, 1425 01:33:46,140 --> 01:33:49,680 open on in with what is the Cultural Revolution 1426 01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,560 to those of us who have never been through it. China's 1427 01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:57,120 cultural revolution is just a social political movement that 1428 01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:03,390 took place in China from 1966 to 1976. To many of those who have 1429 01:34:03,420 --> 01:34:08,160 lived through it, it was probably the worst nightmare of 1430 01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:12,420 their lives on the surface. It was to remove all capitalistic 1431 01:34:12,450 --> 01:34:16,530 elements from China, and to remove all traditional and 1432 01:34:16,530 --> 01:34:20,250 cultural elements from Chinese society. But what this movements 1433 01:34:20,250 --> 01:34:24,750 really was was multidose selfish attempt to get rid of his rivals 1434 01:34:24,750 --> 01:34:28,350 and governments and to revive his image to the Chinese people 1435 01:34:28,500 --> 01:34:32,310 after it was soiled that dude, his campaign called the Great 1436 01:34:32,340 --> 01:34:36,000 Leap Forward. Now that campaign ended up creating the largest 1437 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:40,620 famine in human history, and killing somewhere between 18 and 1438 01:34:40,620 --> 01:34:42,960 43 million people. 1439 01:34:43,500 --> 01:34:46,620 I think this is from that that guy who did the entire Chinese 1440 01:34:46,620 --> 01:34:51,060 history in 30 minutes on YouTube. We're at dawn GA That's 1441 01:34:51,060 --> 01:34:53,910 it. That's great as fans, everyone should watch that. It's 1442 01:34:53,910 --> 01:34:54,660 really good. 1443 01:34:54,930 --> 01:34:58,650 As he just said they started trying to remove capitalism, and 1444 01:34:58,650 --> 01:35:02,400 then all of history What are we seeing? What are we seeing now 1445 01:35:02,430 --> 01:35:03,150 in the street? 1446 01:35:04,049 --> 01:35:06,419 Yeah, well, they removed it more imperialism, wasn't it not 1447 01:35:06,419 --> 01:35:07,619 capital imperialism. 1448 01:35:08,189 --> 01:35:09,959 Now, let's say he said capitalist, he would they want 1449 01:35:09,959 --> 01:35:11,639 to remove all capitalists. Oh, right. 1450 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:15,270 Okay. Yes. Yeah. Worse. Of course, we're seeing the exact 1451 01:35:15,270 --> 01:35:16,800 same thing. Absolutely. 1452 01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:21,420 So it makes you question. Only question. Where's the sources is 1453 01:35:21,420 --> 01:35:26,700 coming from all this kicked up? Right after the China took a 1454 01:35:26,700 --> 01:35:28,950 major ale and the trade war to Trump? 1455 01:35:29,340 --> 01:35:33,480 No, yeah, no. Now it also all happens in an election year. So 1456 01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:36,840 there are lots of agendas that have Confluence and come 1457 01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:37,950 together, of course, 1458 01:35:38,250 --> 01:35:43,770 right. But we know. We speculate who controls the media, and we 1459 01:35:43,770 --> 01:35:46,680 had wall to wall coverage all the way down to Sesame Street. 1460 01:35:48,540 --> 01:35:51,570 Well, no, no, of course. I mean, the mainstream media appears to 1461 01:35:51,570 --> 01:35:55,290 be controlled by China directly or indirectly, certainly, 1462 01:35:55,350 --> 01:35:58,290 indirectly with the pharmaceutical industry, which 1463 01:35:58,290 --> 01:36:04,680 China certainly controls with advertising. And And to add to 1464 01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:09,270 that we've had the director of the FBI, the Attorney General, 1465 01:36:09,300 --> 01:36:13,530 and the Secretary of State and of course, the president all go 1466 01:36:13,530 --> 01:36:17,640 on a massive offensive in the past week alone, about China, 1467 01:36:17,730 --> 01:36:20,760 what they're doing, where they've infiltrated, calling out 1468 01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:25,350 collaborators such as Apple, Microsoft, Cisco, Yahoo, etc. 1469 01:36:25,770 --> 01:36:30,600 And not a peep on the mainstream media. So yes, absolutely. 1470 01:36:32,340 --> 01:36:35,970 Well, I'll help people to just listen out in this next clip, 1471 01:36:35,970 --> 01:36:38,850 but the parallels that went on with the Cultural Revolution, 1472 01:36:39,090 --> 01:36:40,350 and what's going on now. 1473 01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,770 Now, the Cultural Revolution started off with a campaign to 1474 01:36:43,770 --> 01:36:49,290 cast away the four Oles the four O's are old ideas, old culture, 1475 01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:53,730 old customs and old habits. Basically, this manifested in 1476 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:57,690 old books and art being destroyed. Museums ransacked in 1477 01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:01,410 streets renamed with new revolutionary names, and adorned 1478 01:37:01,410 --> 01:37:04,410 with pictures and sayings a monster don't everywhere, Malta 1479 01:37:04,410 --> 01:37:07,320 don't want it to eradicate religion, first and foremost, 1480 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,780 because without a belief system, the Chinese people are more 1481 01:37:09,780 --> 01:37:13,020 easily swayed to believe, basically, whatever He tells 1482 01:37:13,020 --> 01:37:16,860 them, many famous temples, really old, traditional shrines 1483 01:37:16,860 --> 01:37:20,550 and utter historical heritage sites were destroyed today, when 1484 01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:23,700 you go to China, most of the temples in the old historic 1485 01:37:23,700 --> 01:37:27,540 sites that you see were actually recreated because most of them 1486 01:37:27,690 --> 01:37:30,240 were all destroyed during the Cultural Revolution where the 1487 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:31,380 parent before that, 1488 01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:35,850 do you see the parallels here renaming streets, Black Lives 1489 01:37:35,850 --> 01:37:42,930 Plaza, destroying of history, now it just it was under the 1490 01:37:42,930 --> 01:37:48,030 guise of taking down Confederate statues, which I have no issue 1491 01:37:48,030 --> 01:37:51,570 with taking them down. I stated previous before, I mean, 1492 01:37:51,570 --> 01:37:54,780 previously, that I have no issue with taking them down, I have an 1493 01:37:54,780 --> 01:37:58,080 issue with the manner in which they're being taken. Now, of 1494 01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,840 course, it's not a democratic process is stupid. 1495 01:38:03,210 --> 01:38:07,350 But what happens is snowball to all of history's and they call 1496 01:38:07,350 --> 01:38:11,040 it the four old right, you know, to get rid of Yeah, I think 1497 01:38:11,070 --> 01:38:14,550 America is going through the one old, old white men, if you get 1498 01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:17,520 rid of old white man, every single word, it'll be fixed. 1499 01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:21,030 Yeah, because the black man won't emulate the old white man. 1500 01:38:21,030 --> 01:38:24,210 I mean, they'll fall in line and you can solve all your problems 1501 01:38:24,210 --> 01:38:25,290 that way. I'm 1502 01:38:26,700 --> 01:38:31,950 just, you're in regards to the Great Leap Forward. and China. 1503 01:38:31,980 --> 01:38:36,450 This is what Apple CEO Tim Cook said just recently in regards to 1504 01:38:36,450 --> 01:38:37,740 Black Lives Matter. 1505 01:38:37,769 --> 01:38:42,449 So it is today, we're at an important moment in our history, 1506 01:38:42,869 --> 01:38:47,099 a time when progress, which has been far too slow, feel suddenly 1507 01:38:47,099 --> 01:38:51,479 poised to move forward in a great lead. Each of us has a 1508 01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,479 role to play in making sure we rise to the occasion. 1509 01:38:54,570 --> 01:38:57,930 I mean, that Tim Cook might as well just work for the Chinese 1510 01:38:57,930 --> 01:39:01,950 Communist Party. He certainly has a very deep relationship 1511 01:39:01,950 --> 01:39:04,650 with Apple has a very deep relationship with and when he 1512 01:39:05,070 --> 01:39:08,040 those words are not used by accident 1513 01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:13,560 at all, and the problem with the Cultural Revolution was was bad 1514 01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:17,490 actors. There was no clear definition of a bad actor. It 1515 01:39:17,490 --> 01:39:21,990 was just kind of like now, right? You can just get called 1516 01:39:22,020 --> 01:39:27,060 and canceled for anything. This person said this 10 years ago, 1517 01:39:27,060 --> 01:39:30,060 and then, you know, that's why you have a lot of people coming 1518 01:39:30,060 --> 01:39:34,050 out and apologizing. No, preemptively is I'm sorry. I 1519 01:39:34,050 --> 01:39:36,780 don't know. I don't know what I did. But I'm sorry. I did it. 1520 01:39:37,290 --> 01:39:40,440 Yes. And here's my 100 million dollar fund, whatever you do, 1521 01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:42,120 don't look over here, please. We 1522 01:39:43,500 --> 01:39:46,230 that's the brand you get the logo, right you get the black 1523 01:39:46,230 --> 01:39:48,570 ink stamp and it's like oh, we're good. I have a bag of 1524 01:39:48,570 --> 01:39:52,830 black ink pass. I'm be above canceling. 1525 01:39:53,010 --> 01:39:57,000 Hey, we should create those as a premium for donors. What 1526 01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:57,390 blacking 1527 01:39:57,390 --> 01:39:58,290 passes. Yeah, 1528 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,960 Shall Pass. Yeah, why not? We can make our own blacking pass. 1529 01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:06,390 When you see that domain name I can get I'm sure. 1530 01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:09,840 A punch card that we need to make it like a punch card. 1531 01:40:11,250 --> 01:40:14,490 No barcode barcode will be fine. Don't worry barcode will 1532 01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:17,370 understand for every transgression you get the your 1533 01:40:17,370 --> 01:40:20,460 punch down as well. Okay. All right. That way they had to 1534 01:40:20,460 --> 01:40:22,710 renew. Yeah, you gotta get you had to renew. 1535 01:40:23,820 --> 01:40:27,480 We got out of punches. It's like a ski lift pass. Okay, yeah, 1536 01:40:27,480 --> 01:40:28,080 exactly. 1537 01:40:31,980 --> 01:40:35,550 So, um, I think it's a good point. You know, we talked about 1538 01:40:35,580 --> 01:40:41,100 that you and I felt this next clip. And oftentimes people want 1539 01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:44,970 to say, How do I tell people about the show? What is Mofaz? 1540 01:40:44,970 --> 01:40:47,820 What Adam curry what I don't tell you guys what you're 1541 01:40:47,820 --> 01:40:51,780 talking about? Well, this next clip, Adam, I think it describes 1542 01:40:51,810 --> 01:40:55,110 us and what we do to a tee, and it's from one of your favorite 1543 01:40:55,110 --> 01:40:55,470 people. 1544 01:40:56,219 --> 01:40:59,399 Press, the white man and the black men have to be able to sit 1545 01:40:59,399 --> 01:41:02,489 down at the same table, the white man has to feel free to 1546 01:41:02,489 --> 01:41:05,519 speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that negro. And 1547 01:41:05,519 --> 01:41:08,639 the so called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without 1548 01:41:08,639 --> 01:41:11,249 hurting the feelings of the white man, then they can bring 1549 01:41:11,249 --> 01:41:14,069 the issue that are under the rug out on top of the table and take 1550 01:41:14,069 --> 01:41:16,499 an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. What's the 1551 01:41:16,499 --> 01:41:17,009 only way 1552 01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:25,320 we'll ever do it? Wow, that's fantastic. That sums it up. And 1553 01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:31,080 if only we had known this much earlier. How old is this clip 1554 01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,080 where this is what from like 60s something? 1555 01:41:34,440 --> 01:41:40,680 Yes. 6460s 6364. I want to say it wasn't a compilation of 1556 01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:44,100 Malcolm X clips. I mean, I was going through it, looking for 1557 01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:46,680 something else. And that just Powell was like, holy crap that 1558 01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:50,460 explains exactly what we're doing. I'm coming to the table, 1559 01:41:50,580 --> 01:41:53,760 you're coming to the table, we put a fence to the side. Yeah. 1560 01:41:53,820 --> 01:41:56,160 And we get right to the problems. 1561 01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:59,940 And apparently, we're going to save the world. I love this. 1562 01:42:00,390 --> 01:42:02,730 It's a tough job, ladies and gentlemen, we've taken upon 1563 01:42:02,730 --> 01:42:06,480 ourselves, but we couldn't do it without you. And this is what 1564 01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:09,060 Moe was talking about with value for value. And actually, this is 1565 01:42:09,060 --> 01:42:12,540 where I want to just slip in the idea of, you know, we have 1566 01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:18,930 capitalism, you've got communism or Marxism. In the media 1567 01:42:18,930 --> 01:42:23,340 landscape, I think we're seeing a I call it tribalism, or media 1568 01:42:23,340 --> 01:42:27,300 tribalism. But it really is a form of an economy that has, 1569 01:42:28,110 --> 01:42:32,100 that has shown that you don't even if you if you have talent, 1570 01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:34,950 and you want to do something, you don't have to be part of the 1571 01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:39,630 system. This is what's changed. And why these systems don't work 1572 01:42:39,630 --> 01:42:42,750 the same anymore, or are vulnerable. Because we've 1573 01:42:42,750 --> 01:42:46,980 created models like the value for value model, which means we 1574 01:42:46,980 --> 01:42:49,950 don't need to have massive scale, we just need to be 1575 01:42:49,950 --> 01:42:54,060 supported by our tribe by our community. And that's exactly 1576 01:42:54,060 --> 01:42:57,600 what is happening with Moe facts with Adam curry, as we have 1577 01:42:58,290 --> 01:43:01,260 assigned everybody the role of producer ship. And without a 1578 01:43:01,260 --> 01:43:05,250 doubt, MO You give me way too much credit. But a lot of the a 1579 01:43:05,250 --> 01:43:09,810 lot of the rabbit holes I fall into and then slide over to your 1580 01:43:09,810 --> 01:43:13,680 side. Of course, they come from producers, people who are 1581 01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:18,690 interactively involved in the programming of this podcast. And 1582 01:43:18,690 --> 01:43:23,190 the only way we can do it and and sustain it is with support 1583 01:43:23,190 --> 01:43:26,460 and financial support. And we love people who do that. They 1584 01:43:26,460 --> 01:43:29,670 are often our executive or Associate Executive producers, 1585 01:43:29,670 --> 01:43:32,880 but everyone has a producer who helps out in any way you can. 1586 01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:36,480 But we are very appreciative of the support that we received. 1587 01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:39,900 Now this is really for the past two weeks, so it's a little bit 1588 01:43:39,900 --> 01:43:43,770 longer, but the support is overwhelming. And it's just 1589 01:43:43,770 --> 01:43:46,230 fantastic to read all these notes, which we're going to 1590 01:43:46,230 --> 01:43:50,340 share now. And we start with Joe Travis, who supports the show 1591 01:43:50,340 --> 01:43:58,080 with $500 which is fan really appreciated and incredibly nice. 1592 01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:00,570 And here's what he says mo how're you doing? I just want to 1593 01:44:00,570 --> 01:44:03,990 let you know I'm not racist. I even had a black friend 30 years 1594 01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:07,530 ago in college. Yes, this is this is a new fund donation know 1595 01:44:07,530 --> 01:44:10,980 what I've noticed that seriously though, he says, you and Adam 1596 01:44:10,980 --> 01:44:13,530 are doing a fantastic job have learned a lot and the podcast 1597 01:44:13,530 --> 01:44:16,860 has really made me think I got my college age son into no 1598 01:44:16,860 --> 01:44:19,650 agenda about two years ago, and I'm getting him started a mo 1599 01:44:19,650 --> 01:44:22,560 facts now. It's immunized him against the liberal 1600 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:28,590 indoctrination at school. Yes. And thank you, Joe, as he says, 1601 01:44:28,590 --> 01:44:31,230 Thanks. Thanks. Thanks, Joe. That's very cool. That's that's 1602 01:44:31,230 --> 01:44:33,960 another thing that's happening. Right now we're seeing with the 1603 01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:37,200 school closures and kids being threatened to be on Zoom for 1604 01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,410 five hours a day. Parents are now creating pods of 1605 01:44:40,410 --> 01:44:43,860 homeschooling and they're hiring teachers to come into you know, 1606 01:44:43,860 --> 01:44:48,120 like they got maybe six or eight kids. It's ingenuity is 1607 01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:51,330 fantastic. And so I can see, hopefully a different 1608 01:44:51,330 --> 01:44:55,710 curriculum, maybe even appearing from this Malcolm X approved 1609 01:44:55,710 --> 01:45:00,180 podcast. It's right there. He said it right there. It's Got it 1610 01:45:00,180 --> 01:45:04,440 right there I don't I don't care what you say. We came Butler 1611 01:45:04,440 --> 01:45:08,640 comes in right after Joe with $300 and says this is only a 1612 01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,130 fraction of the value we have received from listening to 1613 01:45:11,130 --> 01:45:15,000 dozens of your episodes. Since discuss its first discovering mo 1614 01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:20,250 facts in May. We'd like to contribute to the GBG jar the 1615 01:45:20,250 --> 01:45:23,640 give blacks guns, can we get some mo karma for our country 1616 01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:25,920 right now? Well, of course we got some of that for you I 1617 01:45:32,070 --> 01:45:34,860 would be interested to hear your perspective on Rhodesia slash 1618 01:45:34,860 --> 01:45:38,070 Zimbabwe as well as China's involvement more than we touched 1619 01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:41,820 on China today. Remember weapons safety rules and rock out with 1620 01:45:41,820 --> 01:45:46,590 your Glock out? Thank you cane. And so both a Joe and Kane are 1621 01:45:46,590 --> 01:45:50,250 obviously for obvious reasons. They are executive producers, as 1622 01:45:50,250 --> 01:45:53,850 is Sir H from San Francisco $200 As in the morning I just caught 1623 01:45:53,850 --> 01:45:57,750 up with all the episodes and this is $5 per episode. I wish I 1624 01:45:57,750 --> 01:46:00,630 could pay a lot more but everyone at my company got a 20% 1625 01:46:00,750 --> 01:46:05,310 pay cut thanks to the Loana maybe he made Rona but says Lona 1626 01:46:06,030 --> 01:46:10,110 Russa at the end will be greatly appreciated it Kitagawa sir ah 1627 01:46:10,110 --> 01:46:13,470 from San Francisco we can give you a WUSA right now ma'am won't 1628 01:46:13,470 --> 01:46:14,160 be happy to do 1629 01:46:20,100 --> 01:46:24,990 Amy Ekman comes after Sir H with the $200 as well and says as an 1630 01:46:24,990 --> 01:46:28,080 avid listener of no agenda, I discovered mo facts. I love it. 1631 01:46:28,380 --> 01:46:32,040 I've learned so much from about our country's cultural history 1632 01:46:32,190 --> 01:46:36,030 that has been lost or rewritten or hidden. I would add thanks to 1633 01:46:36,030 --> 01:46:40,920 you two gentlemen, I am mo woke. There's a t shirt. So much so 1634 01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:43,980 many premiums for the show. Keep up the great work Amy from 1635 01:46:43,980 --> 01:46:46,830 Healdsburg, California. And I did want to say that just before 1636 01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:50,220 we started recording today, I finalized the archive page 1637 01:46:50,250 --> 01:46:54,930 archive.mo facts.com has every single episode, almost every 1638 01:46:54,930 --> 01:46:57,420 single show notes page. We didn't do show notes early in 1639 01:46:57,420 --> 01:47:00,510 the show. Like we're doing them now with the clips etc. But you 1640 01:47:00,510 --> 01:47:04,500 go to archive.mo facts.com and you can get everything going 1641 01:47:04,500 --> 01:47:07,950 back to Episode One. And it's not a bad idea to start with 1642 01:47:07,950 --> 01:47:14,670 Episode One To Follow the entire journey. Eric calibrator $143 1643 01:47:14,670 --> 01:47:20,430 And he says I say g d which maybe means good day. Great 1644 01:47:20,430 --> 01:47:24,330 content a hundo for the effort 43 for the next episode, the 1645 01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:27,990 comment about less than 20% Black does not a BLM protest 1646 01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:32,790 make really resonated. Some White woke privileged family has 1647 01:47:32,790 --> 01:47:36,150 been lecturing me and the missus about our place. I'm an old 1648 01:47:36,150 --> 01:47:39,360 white guy missus is mixed Japanese American so 1649 01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,060 appreciative of sharing these conversations and viewpoints 1650 01:47:42,060 --> 01:47:46,380 bonus I'm all for armed everyone thankful for the same nuanced 1651 01:47:46,380 --> 01:47:48,750 conversation in the morning. Thank you for your courage, love 1652 01:47:48,750 --> 01:47:52,380 and light sir Eric's naked and thank you very much. Eric. It is 1653 01:47:52,380 --> 01:47:57,420 appreciated Mad Mike of the traveling spiders 126 43 mo been 1654 01:47:57,420 --> 01:48:00,720 listening for a few weeks came from a Rogen. No agenda mo 1655 01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:05,190 facts. This. This is part of the tribal media concept. There's 1656 01:48:05,220 --> 01:48:11,280 overlap, and we fly between ro Namo. It's Romo. Exactly. Oh my 1657 01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:15,870 Corona, mono Namo. And write that down the road. This is very 1658 01:48:15,870 --> 01:48:22,140 Roan. Mo Holy crap. That's a good one. GBG good blacks guns 1659 01:48:22,140 --> 01:48:25,560 is spot on best episode yet. You really made an impression and 1660 01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:29,490 gotten a reformed conservative libertarian to open up his older 1661 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,610 eyes. Appreciate your view. I can see my perspectives 1662 01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:36,450 adjusting themselves spreading the word but folks have to wait 1663 01:48:36,450 --> 01:48:39,390 to find the truth is true. Unfortunately, most are 1664 01:48:39,390 --> 01:48:42,300 uncomfortable stepping outside their bubbles but still passing 1665 01:48:42,300 --> 01:48:47,880 the word. Adam you're not awful. The white guy gets it gets a 1666 01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:53,880 compliment. They're excellent. Then we go to Century City View 1667 01:48:55,020 --> 01:49:00,630 was a rather long note 123451 of our favorite donation amounts. 1668 01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:04,530 And let's see what he says here dear mo anatomy I enjoyed your 1669 01:49:04,530 --> 01:49:08,580 episode on Tupac. I wrote two books on the murders of Tupac 1670 01:49:08,580 --> 01:49:12,600 and Biggie with former LAPD detective Russell Poole. He was 1671 01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:15,570 the lead detective on the cases. He was also the whistleblower 1672 01:49:15,570 --> 01:49:18,420 that gave us the Rampart scandal. Oh wow. Police were 1673 01:49:18,420 --> 01:49:21,270 involved in the murders and police were and still are 1674 01:49:21,270 --> 01:49:24,930 involved in the cover ups Russell and I second generation 1675 01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,200 a second year investment investigation. In our second 1676 01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,710 year investigation detailed in chaos merchants documented and 1677 01:49:31,710 --> 01:49:34,650 footnoted every fact this was a work in process at the time of 1678 01:49:34,650 --> 01:49:37,260 Russell pools. Death in the meeting with the sheriff's 1679 01:49:37,440 --> 01:49:40,200 attempting to get the murders reopened and solves Holy crap. 1680 01:49:40,290 --> 01:49:43,590 This is very interesting and what so if that's the name of 1681 01:49:43,590 --> 01:49:45,960 the book, it is 1682 01:49:46,050 --> 01:49:49,980 it is very interesting to consider this topic eyeball 1683 01:49:49,980 --> 01:49:55,260 always on it. Now, one of my favorite things to research and 1684 01:49:55,260 --> 01:49:55,770 discuss. 1685 01:49:57,180 --> 01:49:59,640 Prior to getting involved in all these investigations, I made a 1686 01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:02,490 doctor Mentri about the Mexican cartels called American 1687 01:50:02,490 --> 01:50:05,400 federally. After the books are written I made a documentary on 1688 01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:09,810 Suge Knight, and then one on the murders called Battle for 1689 01:50:09,810 --> 01:50:12,720 Compton and made the trip to Minnesota while the buildings 1690 01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,840 were burning in the aftermath of joy, the George Floyd murder, I 1691 01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:19,590 got to see an intelligence operation unfold in real time. 1692 01:50:19,890 --> 01:50:23,100 During our protests during our protest march documented in the 1693 01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:26,400 film, the people have the power, a federal agent magically 1694 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:30,030 appeared to lead us into the Freeway between police where we 1695 01:50:30,030 --> 01:50:33,630 were surrounded on all sides. We were suckered into this March by 1696 01:50:33,630 --> 01:50:36,840 a crisis actor that told us white supremacist were shooting 1697 01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:40,470 protesters. I would like to know if anyone recognizes this actor. 1698 01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:44,130 You can see him in this film. I believe he's either police 1699 01:50:44,130 --> 01:50:47,640 officer or military the entire day was very strange. Wow, 1700 01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:53,010 that's quite a quite a lot of info there. And we'll certainly 1701 01:50:53,010 --> 01:50:55,860 if we hear anything, we'll we'll send it on to you or bring it up 1702 01:50:55,860 --> 01:50:57,660 and thank you for supporting 1703 01:50:57,810 --> 01:51:00,810 me and I will say I might be reaching out to him for my 1704 01:51:01,740 --> 01:51:07,110 highly anticipated Hip Hop episode series. Because I got 1705 01:51:07,110 --> 01:51:07,710 some questions 1706 01:51:07,860 --> 01:51:13,290 for you. Very nice. Okay. Yes. Excellent, excellent. Now we go 1707 01:51:13,290 --> 01:51:21,750 to K are with 101 The black male professional scientists and 1708 01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:24,870 software engineer on affiliated political moderate currently in 1709 01:51:24,870 --> 01:51:28,350 California but from Georgia, North Carolina. Last month, I 1710 01:51:28,350 --> 01:51:31,200 had job interviews with two of the biggest policy think tanks 1711 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:35,610 in DC heritage and AI, I hope to be able to influence them to 1712 01:51:35,610 --> 01:51:38,850 design fact based nonpartisan policies for the federal 1713 01:51:38,850 --> 01:51:41,550 government and presidents. Hopefully they'll hire me 1714 01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:45,150 heritage is highly influential indeed. They told Trump who to 1715 01:51:45,150 --> 01:51:48,420 hire when he entered the White House plus being in DC during 1716 01:51:48,420 --> 01:51:51,720 this election should be entertaining well KR that is 1717 01:51:51,780 --> 01:51:55,260 first of all great to hear that we would like to have more facts 1718 01:51:55,260 --> 01:52:01,410 with Adam curry entered into the congressional library as a fact 1719 01:52:01,410 --> 01:52:06,450 based historic history of the country and anything else you 1720 01:52:06,450 --> 01:52:07,230 need us to do we'll help 1721 01:52:07,230 --> 01:52:10,290 out with one thing can you get my MO calmer for the job? 1722 01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:18,870 Yeah, no kidding. That is a good gig man. Definitely read Harding 1723 01:52:18,870 --> 01:52:21,930 $100 Thought you might appreciate this big fan of the 1724 01:52:21,930 --> 01:52:25,650 show soon to contribute the road to hell picture do you have to 1725 01:52:25,650 --> 01:52:26,850 see a road to hell picture I 1726 01:52:26,850 --> 01:52:30,390 didn't. Yeah, he actually sent me this picture before he 1727 01:52:30,390 --> 01:52:33,660 donated. He didn't I couldn't find a note for him. But this 1728 01:52:33,660 --> 01:52:40,080 picture is great. I'll forward it to you. It has the it's a 1729 01:52:40,110 --> 01:52:43,860 representation of the black lives matter. Black lives matter 1730 01:52:43,860 --> 01:52:47,760 Plaza and instead of Black Lives Matter in yellow letters it says 1731 01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:53,730 road to hail and then it has it was yeah, that was her letter 1732 01:52:53,730 --> 01:52:55,980 was hilarious. is actually my screensaver 1733 01:52:55,980 --> 01:52:59,160 now. Very nice. Explain what's at the end of the road because I 1734 01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:00,210 stepped on this Hail, 1735 01:53:00,420 --> 01:53:02,430 hail purgatory. 1736 01:53:05,340 --> 01:53:09,180 Then we have our first Associate Executive Producer art from the 1737 01:53:09,180 --> 01:53:13,230 Ville PHP sounds Dutch to me mo Adam. I listened to the GBG 1738 01:53:13,230 --> 01:53:17,160 episode in my shed reloading from my old Mirko walnut and 1739 01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:21,990 steel. Oh, he's got he's in the gun club. Dutch rangers have 1740 01:53:21,990 --> 01:53:25,020 finally opened after a four month closing another great 1741 01:53:25,020 --> 01:53:31,260 three hours of very interesting insights well worth a GBA w as a 1742 01:53:31,260 --> 01:53:34,920 donation which is give blacks and Adams white ask some ammo 1743 01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:40,140 donation. Double tap 30 Odd six Keep up the good work. I like 1744 01:53:40,140 --> 01:53:43,890 that our Thank you very much. But one of the few people in the 1745 01:53:43,890 --> 01:53:46,800 Netherlands that would be licensed to have a firearm. Of 1746 01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:49,380 course, it's listed at two mo facts. What do you think? 1747 01:53:49,620 --> 01:53:53,580 Meredith, Matt and $58 and says I was particularly inspired by 1748 01:53:53,580 --> 01:53:58,170 the episode GBG and I've said gun control is racist for the 1749 01:53:58,170 --> 01:54:01,260 longest time I can't afford to give enough to buy you a gun. 1750 01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:05,820 But I can buy you some bullets or two memberships to the n a GA 1751 01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:09,330 of $29 per person per year. Thank you. We'll sign up right 1752 01:54:09,330 --> 01:54:14,130 away. I can be the honorary shadow. Love the show y'all keep 1753 01:54:14,130 --> 01:54:17,070 it up as a criminal defense attorney racism and bias 1754 01:54:17,070 --> 01:54:19,620 policing are common topics discussed with my friends that 1755 01:54:19,620 --> 01:54:23,070 conversation is recently dominated by socialists love 1756 01:54:23,070 --> 01:54:27,690 Black Lives Matter Inc. Org, as we say now black ink so I'm glad 1757 01:54:27,690 --> 01:54:30,300 to hear another perspective on the OFAC show. As for the 1758 01:54:30,300 --> 01:54:32,760 alternative to the no agenda peerage committee, what about 1759 01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:36,600 your own fraternity? Or maybe even your own Boulais I think 1760 01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,940 that'd be fun. The merch ideas are already running through my 1761 01:54:38,940 --> 01:54:43,590 head says Meredith de Meredith de fer order of anonymous from 1762 01:54:43,620 --> 01:54:47,730 na peerage. Okay, well, we've danced around this topic for a 1763 01:54:47,730 --> 01:54:52,350 while which is basically to have a levels of achievement in 1764 01:54:52,380 --> 01:54:56,190 producer ship, where you can just purely based on your own 1765 01:54:56,190 --> 01:54:59,970 accounting. When we come to a certain number then you can be 1766 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,970 Come a while there's no agenda has a night or a dame of the 1767 01:55:02,970 --> 01:55:05,520 roundtable, you've been thinking about this. What do you what do 1768 01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:05,970 you have? 1769 01:55:06,450 --> 01:55:10,200 Well, hearing that Malcolm X clip, speaking of bringing them 1770 01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:16,170 to the table, I don't want to, you know, step on the no agenda 1771 01:55:16,170 --> 01:55:19,020 format, but I mean, it's kind of like bring up to the table. I 1772 01:55:19,020 --> 01:55:25,020 mean, we need to bring in grain that into our our, to the table. 1773 01:55:25,050 --> 01:55:31,590 Yep. Okay. Yes. So we need to bring people to the table. The 1774 01:55:31,590 --> 01:55:36,210 limits? I don't know how we set those up. As far as I think 1775 01:55:36,210 --> 01:55:39,720 we bring them to the table, we call on it, the table, we call 1776 01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:41,730 it, we got to have you tell me? 1777 01:55:42,420 --> 01:55:44,670 Yeah, we can listen to that clip again. Cuz I think we need to 1778 01:55:44,670 --> 01:55:48,810 center around that. Because that's what this is the car. And 1779 01:55:48,810 --> 01:55:51,360 when people say the conversation, this is what needs 1780 01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:55,680 to happen. People set aside their emotions, and have an open 1781 01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,410 conversation. And I think everybody has been contributed 1782 01:55:58,410 --> 01:56:04,140 to the show is producers are all for that. So right 1783 01:56:04,140 --> 01:56:07,410 man, and the black men have to be able to sit down at the same 1784 01:56:07,410 --> 01:56:10,620 table, the white man has to feel free to speak his mind without 1785 01:56:10,620 --> 01:56:13,500 hurting the feelings of that negro. And the so called Negro 1786 01:56:13,500 --> 01:56:16,620 has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feeling 1787 01:56:16,770 --> 01:56:19,230 of the white man, then they can bring the issue that are under 1788 01:56:19,230 --> 01:56:22,440 the rug on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to 1789 01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:25,110 get the problem solved. That's the only way we'll ever do it. 1790 01:56:27,180 --> 01:56:31,110 Okay, I'm going to think about this too. Yeah, something is 1791 01:56:31,110 --> 01:56:32,520 seated at the table. Like I said, 1792 01:56:33,510 --> 01:56:35,790 All right. Well, what we're working on at Meredith, thanks 1793 01:56:35,790 --> 01:56:38,280 for kicking that off. Michael Bradbery a double nickels on the 1794 01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:39,810 dime. 5510 in the morning. 1795 01:56:40,050 --> 01:56:42,270 Well, you could say you we do have a fraternity. It's called 1796 01:56:42,270 --> 01:56:47,880 the school of fish. Okay, we're swimming, baby. We're swimming. 1797 01:56:47,940 --> 01:56:52,860 All right. Well, that's another good one. I like that too. So 1798 01:56:52,860 --> 01:56:56,490 you can do a lot with fish. All right. In the morning. Oh, and 1799 01:56:56,490 --> 01:56:59,340 Adams is Michael Bradbury. After hearing Adam and John mentioned 1800 01:56:59,340 --> 01:57:01,740 the show on no agenda. I finally started listening a few weeks 1801 01:57:01,740 --> 01:57:04,740 ago, it had been going back to the older episodes when I can do 1802 01:57:04,770 --> 01:57:07,770 analysis on each show was fantastic. So I had to send some 1803 01:57:07,770 --> 01:57:10,560 value Anyway, keep up the great work and it was not too much 1804 01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:13,440 trouble. Could I get some mo karma? Yes, you can. Mike, thank 1805 01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:22,770 you very much for your support. Brian Rogers 55. Good day to you 1806 01:57:22,770 --> 01:57:25,290 both Mo and Adam, please accept this donation for supplying 1807 01:57:25,290 --> 01:57:28,140 tremendous content that is seemingly unavailable on any 1808 01:57:28,140 --> 01:57:32,520 other platform. As a suburban white kid who grew up good 1809 01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:36,240 friends with several black kids too. I was put on to some 1810 01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:39,780 aspects of black culture, namely rap music and sneaker culture. 1811 01:57:40,050 --> 01:57:43,530 Your podcast has had a profound impact on the way I used to 1812 01:57:43,530 --> 01:57:46,710 differentiate between being white and black. With the help 1813 01:57:46,710 --> 01:57:49,680 of the pod Father, you've shown me that there are a lot more 1814 01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,500 similarities between white people and black people, 1815 01:57:52,500 --> 01:57:55,800 especially in the way we think than what the mainstream media 1816 01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:59,460 would have us believe exactly. really groundbreaking work. Can 1817 01:57:59,460 --> 01:58:02,070 I please have a WUSA with a dash of Mo karma? 1818 01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:17,100 You've got Rochelle stole 5333 this producer is from Rochelle 1819 01:58:17,100 --> 01:58:19,830 Stowe. And here's her note Okay, started listening to mow facts 1820 01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:22,320 after my husband Jake, a longtime no agenda listener 1821 01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:25,170 heard about this new project. We're not 30 He's live in 1822 01:58:25,170 --> 01:58:27,810 Seattle and we listened to this podcast together when we're road 1823 01:58:27,810 --> 01:58:31,980 tripping. Jake says he's a culturalist white mutt. I have a 1824 01:58:31,980 --> 01:58:34,680 mixed background. My dad grew up in Jamaica my mom's extended 1825 01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,440 family is from Croatia. So I've always grown up between two 1826 01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:40,440 worlds. When I hear Moe talk about being a proud black man 1827 01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:43,050 and how have you ever said you I'm a proud black man. 1828 01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:47,550 You may be 1829 01:58:50,010 --> 01:58:51,720 trying to think that 1830 01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:55,980 when I say the term black, it's the first definition not the 1831 01:58:55,980 --> 01:58:56,340 second. 1832 01:58:57,150 --> 01:59:00,510 Exactly. I just thought was interesting because you come 1833 01:59:00,510 --> 01:59:03,300 across that way. Regardless, you come across as a proud proud 1834 01:59:03,300 --> 01:59:07,440 mofo would love it right? Here mo talking about being a proud 1835 01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:10,440 black man, I wouldn't want to be anything else. I think about how 1836 01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:14,130 my dad raised my brother and I, that we can't do anything, be 1837 01:59:14,130 --> 01:59:17,100 anything and achieve that we can do anything, be anything and 1838 01:59:17,100 --> 01:59:20,280 achieve whatever we want. I started getting attention from 1839 01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:23,070 my friends and co workers that made me feel like a victim 1840 01:59:23,220 --> 01:59:26,040 because of the color of my skin especially after George Floyd 1841 01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:29,370 was murdered. The attention is overwhelming and exhausting. 1842 01:59:29,370 --> 01:59:32,670 This is a great note. But this show gives me context help 1843 01:59:32,670 --> 01:59:36,720 navigate this fun, help navigate conversations about race, 1844 01:59:36,900 --> 01:59:39,630 hearing the history of why Black people are taught by media to 1845 01:59:39,630 --> 01:59:43,440 feel victimized rid me of that anxiety. Every day. I say to 1846 01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:46,500 myself, that knowledge is power and I feel very powerful because 1847 01:59:46,500 --> 01:59:49,890 of your work. Moe karma with the kick of goat screen for all the 1848 01:59:49,890 --> 01:59:54,090 new listeners, please. Also, I just watched the last dance with 1849 01:59:54,090 --> 01:59:57,180 Michael Jordan and I'm curious, what do you think about him? 1850 01:59:57,390 --> 02:00:01,980 Thank you very much as Rochelle Now I read You really, really 1851 02:00:01,980 --> 02:00:06,420 love this note? Because it's helping her understand white 1852 02:00:06,420 --> 02:00:06,990 people. 1853 02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:10,980 And I remember her husband writing in actually he wrote, 1854 02:00:11,190 --> 02:00:14,430 Oh, that's right. I do remember shows ago. Yeah, we remember we 1855 02:00:14,430 --> 02:00:18,390 remember these things, people. That's right. He was talking 1856 02:00:18,390 --> 02:00:22,080 about how helpful from his perspective it was. And I'm glad 1857 02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:28,470 to hear her. Give her firsthand account, please. All right now, 1858 02:00:28,890 --> 02:00:31,470 Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan, the greatest basketball player 1859 02:00:31,470 --> 02:00:38,190 ever by far it's not even close. I think he gets a hard they're 1860 02:00:38,190 --> 02:00:41,130 pretty hard on him because he's not as woke as people will want 1861 02:00:41,130 --> 02:00:44,130 him to be. But they gotta realize he only made $2 million 1862 02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,160 a year playing basketball compared to $40 million a year 1863 02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:50,610 that players make now so plus the shoe deals do they get so 1864 02:00:50,610 --> 02:00:54,750 they can be a lot allowed to be appear to be a lot more woker if 1865 02:00:54,750 --> 02:00:58,680 that's the word then Michael was because he was actually kicking 1866 02:00:58,710 --> 02:01:01,230 open the door that they reap the benefits from now. 1867 02:01:02,130 --> 02:01:06,600 I don't have the ESPN on demand thing or whatever the hell it 1868 02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:09,810 was but it just hidden it from Netflix and the keeper. Nice. 1869 02:01:10,230 --> 02:01:13,860 Because she lives in Chicago. You know, she witnessed all of 1870 02:01:13,860 --> 02:01:19,710 that. She she was a Bulls fan like everybody and I've only hit 1871 02:01:19,710 --> 02:01:24,420 episode two but I I love this series is fascinating to watch 1872 02:01:24,420 --> 02:01:28,440 is obviously I don't know crap about sports. I recognized 1873 02:01:28,770 --> 02:01:29,790 on it. We're working on it. 1874 02:01:30,540 --> 02:01:33,630 What Scottie Pippen though man, that's an interesting dude. I 1875 02:01:33,630 --> 02:01:36,780 mean, especially with the deal he signed and he No, it was 1876 02:01:36,780 --> 02:01:40,860 horrible. This really is I feel I feel for him. He's very 1877 02:01:40,860 --> 02:01:43,620 interesting. Anyway, let me do this mo karma with a goat screen 1878 02:01:43,620 --> 02:01:49,800 twist for you. Thank you very much. There we go. Eric Coco 1879 02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:53,250 from Deutschland. We know him to see $2 No, no, but thank you 1880 02:01:53,250 --> 02:01:56,280 very much, Eric. Dunker, Shin. Dunker, shoot, and I should just 1881 02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:56,460 say, 1882 02:01:56,490 --> 02:02:00,510 Can I say one more thing. When people write in, they don't send 1883 02:02:00,510 --> 02:02:03,360 a note. Just put no note in the comment because I have an 1884 02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:07,080 anxiety that I'm gonna miss somebody and I happen to shake 1885 02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:11,670 everywhere. Every combination name, email address possible God 1886 02:02:11,670 --> 02:02:15,060 so just put, it'll save me a bunch of time and take away the 1887 02:02:15,060 --> 02:02:17,580 anxiety that I don't want to miss anybody. I know when you 1888 02:02:17,580 --> 02:02:20,370 guys write these notes that it means a lot to you. So that's 1889 02:02:20,370 --> 02:02:25,650 why I'm very particular about make sure I get people's voices 1890 02:02:25,650 --> 02:02:26,100 out there. 1891 02:02:26,549 --> 02:02:30,389 Well, Sir Johnny B did add a note and he said 5150 which is 1892 02:02:30,389 --> 02:02:33,749 of course code for time to take someone to the to the nuthouse. 1893 02:02:34,079 --> 02:02:37,439 How is it that people can gloss over the obvious language of 1894 02:02:37,439 --> 02:02:40,529 white supremacy and all these anti racist articles? It's 1895 02:02:40,529 --> 02:02:43,379 depressing me. I need some sanity. Hope you guys are back 1896 02:02:43,379 --> 02:02:46,529 soon. Love you guys. That's capital L realize you're out. 1897 02:02:46,739 --> 02:02:50,219 Thank you very much, sir Johnny B. And here we are. Alan Adler 1898 02:02:50,219 --> 02:02:53,099 $50 love the show. He says here's my contribution for your 1899 02:02:53,099 --> 02:02:57,599 new Glock nine millimeter give bail blacks guns. Sir daddy of 1900 02:02:57,599 --> 02:03:00,989 the seven wonders $50 Mo. This is a good faith donation for 1901 02:03:00,989 --> 02:03:03,959 value I've received but I need you to understand I'm a proud 1902 02:03:03,959 --> 02:03:06,869 Southerner who owns a confederate flag has pictures of 1903 02:03:06,869 --> 02:03:10,529 generally and Bedford for decorating my house. And I'm a 1904 02:03:10,529 --> 02:03:13,829 student of southern history and culture. I'm also half Korean 1905 02:03:13,829 --> 02:03:17,219 for what it's worth. There are many good southern people who 1906 02:03:17,219 --> 02:03:20,159 are proud of their lineage. And we're not white supremacists, or 1907 02:03:20,159 --> 02:03:23,819 anything like what the media programs people to think about 1908 02:03:23,819 --> 02:03:26,729 Southerners. How many times have you seen a good portrayal of a 1909 02:03:26,729 --> 02:03:30,389 redneck in the media news, TV or movies? I'd love to talk history 1910 02:03:30,389 --> 02:03:32,699 and philosophy with you Mo and maybe we can do a meet up 1911 02:03:32,699 --> 02:03:35,069 someday and have dinner and a drink or two, I'm in Virginia. 1912 02:03:35,369 --> 02:03:37,799 But after your comments about removing the Confederate 1913 02:03:37,799 --> 02:03:40,469 memorials because they were terrorists, I needed to push 1914 02:03:40,469 --> 02:03:43,379 back on that completely incorrect narrative. Well, I 1915 02:03:43,379 --> 02:03:46,199 disagree with you on more than a couple of things. I've listened 1916 02:03:46,199 --> 02:03:48,629 to this podcast and going back and listening to the archives 1917 02:03:48,629 --> 02:03:51,329 for shows I missed because I want to better understand your 1918 02:03:51,329 --> 02:03:54,329 point of view. And I've learned a lot and definitely received 1919 02:03:54,329 --> 02:03:56,849 value from your podcast, which is why I need to return some 1920 02:03:56,849 --> 02:04:00,089 value to you. I think a lot of folks would also benefit from 1921 02:04:00,089 --> 02:04:02,399 learning about the actual history and culture of the old 1922 02:04:02,399 --> 02:04:05,579 South, we have a lot more in common than the media would have 1923 02:04:05,579 --> 02:04:09,209 you think no surprise, at any rate best to you and yours and 1924 02:04:09,209 --> 02:04:12,269 to Adam and all his folks are daddio of the seven wonders 1925 02:04:12,389 --> 02:04:16,469 when I use the term terrorists. I said by their own definition. 1926 02:04:16,469 --> 02:04:19,559 So people on the right I don't want to assume that he's on the 1927 02:04:19,559 --> 02:04:22,769 right. But people on the right often say if you go against your 1928 02:04:22,769 --> 02:04:25,979 country, you're treasonous and you're a terrorist and you know 1929 02:04:25,979 --> 02:04:29,669 those things. So I'm just saying by that definition that those 1930 02:04:29,669 --> 02:04:36,899 people set, then you have to judge it the same way. To me I'm 1931 02:04:36,899 --> 02:04:43,199 not bought I'm not bothered by the Confederate flag or civil 1932 02:04:43,199 --> 02:04:47,219 war. I actually say even said in the show I mentioned that was I 1933 02:04:47,219 --> 02:04:51,029 have more understanding now living in Virginia, because I 1934 02:04:51,029 --> 02:04:54,989 get to understand a little bit better. Now. I will say this, he 1935 02:04:54,989 --> 02:04:57,899 said about lineage and that's why I wrote my bill. I've never 1936 02:04:57,899 --> 02:05:02,099 said for anybody to deny their lineage Actually, if you or 1937 02:05:02,099 --> 02:05:04,829 anybody you're saying, who's listening to the show, that's 1938 02:05:04,829 --> 02:05:08,519 one of the things that irks me the most, when people deny their 1939 02:05:08,519 --> 02:05:11,609 lineage, because that's why we got on the whole passing thing. 1940 02:05:11,609 --> 02:05:15,269 It's like that's the, that's the worst thing you could ever do is 1941 02:05:15,269 --> 02:05:19,109 deny where you came from. Yep. So I mean, I can say, I believe, 1942 02:05:19,259 --> 02:05:25,019 as Trump said, there's good people on both sides. But what I 1943 02:05:25,019 --> 02:05:29,819 mean by that is, you could be a student of history or former 1944 02:05:29,819 --> 02:05:33,509 like, I mean, okay, so I found out today, my great great, great 1945 02:05:33,509 --> 02:05:37,139 grandfather fought on the side of the Confederate. I wouldn't 1946 02:05:37,139 --> 02:05:40,619 want him to be canceled. No, I mean, I mean, I wouldn't want 1947 02:05:40,619 --> 02:05:46,949 now what I celebrate it, I'm not sure. But I can't condemn 1948 02:05:48,239 --> 02:05:51,869 anybody that wants to celebrate their lineage. I can't, I will 1949 02:05:51,869 --> 02:05:55,319 not. I hope that hope that brings some further 1950 02:05:55,319 --> 02:05:57,719 understanding to why I met but when I say use the word 1951 02:05:57,719 --> 02:06:02,039 terrorist, I'm going by the debt, the rights definition of 1952 02:06:02,489 --> 02:06:05,669 when they throw the word around terrorists or treasonous, or 1953 02:06:05,669 --> 02:06:07,979 those kinds of things. So that's that's the point. I'm trying 1954 02:06:07,980 --> 02:06:10,800 I can't wait for the first mo facts meet up in Virginia. I'm 1955 02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:14,280 going to be there. And I hope so Daddy. Oh joins us. That'd be 1956 02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:20,130 fun. Thanks, Daddy. Oh, that $50 From Buford. coochie coochie coo 1957 02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:23,580 Jr. I should know how to pronounce that Mo. I'm currently 1958 02:06:23,610 --> 02:06:26,370 working through a devastating relationship crisis due to 1959 02:06:26,370 --> 02:06:29,610 questioning everything. I need to do something that makes me 1960 02:06:29,610 --> 02:06:34,230 feel good. Here's my first slice of value for value. We'll give 1961 02:06:34,230 --> 02:06:40,470 this guy a little relationship mo karma sounds like a new deal 1962 02:06:40,470 --> 02:06:44,880 for Ashley Schmidt $60. I'd like to make this donation in honor 1963 02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:48,780 of my 27th birthday on 711 which happens to be the keepers 1964 02:06:48,780 --> 02:06:52,020 birthday as well. And remember, on set if your birthday is on 1965 02:06:52,020 --> 02:06:57,360 711 you can get a free Slurpee at 711. Also an honor of my 1966 02:06:57,360 --> 02:07:01,110 sister's wedding that day, which is also the elevens Holy crap. 1967 02:07:01,410 --> 02:07:05,880 We missed that sorry. But congratulations and happy 1968 02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:08,580 birthday. This show has completely changed my life and 1969 02:07:08,580 --> 02:07:11,190 perspective. Thank you guys for what you do. You are changing 1970 02:07:11,190 --> 02:07:13,560 people's lives. That's you cannot give us a higher 1971 02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:18,540 compliment. Thank you. Ashley, Hillary average of each li send 1972 02:07:18,540 --> 02:07:24,510 us $50 Thank you Timothy Cato stay strapped or get clapped, 1973 02:07:24,690 --> 02:07:26,730 which he attributes to Sun Tzu. 1974 02:07:28,110 --> 02:07:28,980 Something like that. Yeah, 1975 02:07:28,980 --> 02:07:35,790 I guess anonymous $47 Which would be typically a we're 1976 02:07:35,790 --> 02:07:37,860 probably gonna have to put in limits pretty soon the length of 1977 02:07:37,860 --> 02:07:41,670 these notes and the number of donations but this would be a 1978 02:07:41,670 --> 02:07:45,060 number to hide the identity perfectly done anonymous GBG 1979 02:07:45,060 --> 02:07:48,210 keep me anonymous. Thanks for what you do anyways, I found 1980 02:07:48,210 --> 02:07:53,010 this show from the road another another random or another random 1981 02:07:53,010 --> 02:07:56,370 error? Yeah, I found the show from the Rogan podcast after a 1982 02:07:56,370 --> 02:07:59,790 few episodes also found Adam does that other show looking? 1983 02:07:59,820 --> 02:08:03,270 Oh, maybe he came here first. Looking forward to more and I 1984 02:08:03,270 --> 02:08:06,480 glad I could provide some of that government dollars to the 1985 02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:11,400 show. Thank you anonymous in McAfee $43 In the morning most 1986 02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:14,460 so glad you two got together to bring us more facts with Adam 1987 02:08:14,460 --> 02:08:16,530 curry. Love what you're doing and how you do it. Keep them 1988 02:08:16,530 --> 02:08:19,800 coming. And thank you for your courage. Thank you. Ian 3690 1989 02:08:20,010 --> 02:08:22,830 from Connor Lawrence in the morning gentlemen. Love the 1990 02:08:22,830 --> 02:08:25,890 episode from last week. Mo if I had any money I'd buy you a 1991 02:08:25,890 --> 02:08:34,050 javelin from cod What's that Call of Duty? Yeah, brother. 1992 02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:35,430 Kim. 1993 02:08:36,210 --> 02:08:39,720 I just got a mental picture the nerds are there with the with 1994 02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:40,350 the Javelin 1995 02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:44,310 takes a little further GB ml give blacks missile launchers. 1996 02:08:44,310 --> 02:08:46,830 Okay, Adam, if you want one you'll have to settle for a 1997 02:08:46,830 --> 02:08:52,380 harpoon gun named Dylan. This is a das only the white guy gets 1998 02:08:52,380 --> 02:08:56,670 gypped on this I got a harpoon gun. Also, harpoon gun named 1999 02:08:56,670 --> 02:09:00,270 Dylan sounds like a fan fiction version of A Fish Called Wanda. 2000 02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:03,030 Anyway question from always says what are your thoughts on the 2001 02:09:03,030 --> 02:09:06,930 Redskins? Finally caving on a name change? Do you like any of 2002 02:09:06,930 --> 02:09:08,640 the rumored replacements? 2003 02:09:09,750 --> 02:09:14,520 Okay, let me break down this whole risking thing just give 2004 02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:18,570 like in a minute. I think the owner Schneider uses as 2005 02:09:18,570 --> 02:09:22,950 opportunity to use social pressure to change the name. The 2006 02:09:22,950 --> 02:09:26,670 inside baseball on that is he will not be allowed to bring the 2007 02:09:26,670 --> 02:09:30,720 team within Washington DC city limits until he changed the name 2008 02:09:30,930 --> 02:09:36,300 which he has his eye on the RFA. RFK old stadium so I think he 2009 02:09:36,300 --> 02:09:42,660 uses this coverage to his loyal fans is hey, what am I doing? My 2010 02:09:42,660 --> 02:09:45,510 hands are tied. I had to change the name. You know, Nike took 2011 02:09:45,510 --> 02:09:48,450 the apparel off and a couple other companies to their 2012 02:09:48,450 --> 02:09:51,540 parallel until they changed the name but I think they should 2013 02:09:51,540 --> 02:09:56,490 change the name to it just Washington DC Yeah, leave it at 2014 02:09:56,490 --> 02:09:59,250 that. I mean that way I mean is what what was 2015 02:09:59,250 --> 02:10:06,090 interesting is is the National Association of a Native American 2016 02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:12,360 caregivers or caretakers or something? I was reading a whole 2017 02:10:12,360 --> 02:10:16,440 article the most American Indians I think they would like 2018 02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:23,160 to be called. They didn't like it no one asked us like bullcrap 2019 02:10:23,190 --> 02:10:26,850 do some strong warrior they love that and they have no problem 2020 02:10:26,850 --> 02:10:27,300 with it. 2021 02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:31,530 Let me give you a little insight on that there are some tribes 2022 02:10:31,530 --> 02:10:34,440 that are getting their pockets line and other tribe they're not 2023 02:10:34,470 --> 02:10:34,650 and 2024 02:10:35,250 --> 02:10:39,720 that's all it always comes down to that of course all right. All 2025 02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:42,870 right now he says for Adam can you actually name the team he 2026 02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:46,680 says can but I guess he names can plays for yeah is the 2027 02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:48,060 Patriots Am I wrong? 2028 02:10:48,840 --> 02:10:51,660 Yes. Okay. Can you say you don't know sports? 2029 02:10:51,750 --> 02:10:56,280 Exactly. Anyway, can the pastor's blessed me and Elisa 2030 02:10:56,280 --> 02:11:00,300 was that sweet, sweet WUSA and goat mo karma pretty pleased you 2031 02:11:00,300 --> 02:11:00,660 back 2032 02:11:10,230 --> 02:11:14,790 at reverse Musa There you go. Thank you very much. Connor Paul 2033 02:11:14,790 --> 02:11:19,200 Arsenault. Please buy a brother some bullets for 357 That's all 2034 02:11:19,200 --> 02:11:24,900 I can afford right now. Mo Thank you ball. John Mahalla 3333 2035 02:11:24,900 --> 02:11:28,290 monad them not only is 3333 the magic number it also represents 2036 02:11:28,290 --> 02:11:32,190 33 1/3 RPM for vinyl records. I've enjoyed hearing a different 2037 02:11:32,190 --> 02:11:35,460 perspective on Kanye, Tupac and others in your podcast. It's 2038 02:11:35,460 --> 02:11:38,070 given me a greater understanding and appreciation of music from 2039 02:11:38,100 --> 02:11:42,870 Athos artists a few weeks ago, I was visiting Tyron North Tyronn 2040 02:11:42,900 --> 02:11:48,030 Tyron. Oh, try on I'm sorry. I know Canada, I don't know try 2041 02:11:48,030 --> 02:11:50,730 him. Try on North Carolina, which happens to be the 2042 02:11:50,820 --> 02:11:55,410 birthplace of Nina Simone. Turns out, she was an outspoken civil 2043 02:11:55,410 --> 02:11:58,140 rights activist who was both a friend and neighbor to Malcolm 2044 02:11:58,140 --> 02:12:01,320 X. Now when I listened to Nina Simone in concert, the Civil 2045 02:12:01,320 --> 02:12:04,230 Rights overtones which seemed to be lost and much of the audience 2046 02:12:04,230 --> 02:12:07,290 on the record, are glaringly obvious to me. I'd love to hear 2047 02:12:07,290 --> 02:12:10,050 some more episodes explore the role and impact of music on the 2048 02:12:10,050 --> 02:12:12,810 civil rights movement. But for now, I'm sure there are higher 2049 02:12:12,810 --> 02:12:15,810 priorities. Either way, I'll still be listening thanks again 2050 02:12:15,810 --> 02:12:18,600 for all the value you give that that's that is I love Nina 2051 02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:23,340 Simone. Two years Dame Jennifer Jennifer Buchanan the new studio 2052 02:12:23,340 --> 02:12:28,350 sounds great. Yes, Mo your sound is fantastic now it's nice and 2053 02:12:28,350 --> 02:12:31,680 quiet. Glad the move went well. I'll keep propagating the food 2054 02:12:31,680 --> 02:12:34,620 for thought. I definitely made some progress on my last no 2055 02:12:34,620 --> 02:12:38,160 agenda meet up in June to be honest, it's an easy sell with 2056 02:12:38,160 --> 02:12:41,490 excellent material that you keep presenting XOXO Dame Jennifer, 2057 02:12:41,490 --> 02:12:43,980 thank you damn, Jennifer, and she already helps us so much. 2058 02:12:44,250 --> 02:12:46,860 And I was gonna say that that's not the only value that she 2059 02:12:46,860 --> 02:12:51,750 provided, so she should be away for the list. Thank you, James. 2060 02:12:51,750 --> 02:12:52,260 Jennifer. 2061 02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:58,860 Yes, this seems to be sticking the J Magana for Sonya pain 3232 2062 02:12:58,860 --> 02:13:02,040 Happy 32 birthday to my smokin hot husband, Nathan Payne from 2063 02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:05,790 Penn Paragon, Indiana. Couples that listen to mo facts 2064 02:13:05,790 --> 02:13:09,720 together, stay together indeed. And happy birthday to him Sonya, 2065 02:13:09,720 --> 02:13:13,500 Gabriel HARO, $30 learning much more on this podcast than I did 2066 02:13:13,500 --> 02:13:16,860 in high school or college. Ditto. Can there be a podcast on 2067 02:13:16,860 --> 02:13:23,460 the link of Christmas and Saturn Alia? Maybe Ginebra No. Seems 2068 02:13:23,460 --> 02:13:26,310 like we're celebrating a pagan or Luciferian holiday 2069 02:13:26,310 --> 02:13:34,050 unknowingly maybe Chris Grom all $25 Hey mo love the show you say 2070 02:13:34,050 --> 02:13:36,540 that it always starts with black people. Well, even alien 2071 02:13:36,540 --> 02:13:40,320 abduction started with a black guy check out the Betty and 2072 02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:45,990 Barney Hill case. Coincidence? I think not. Damn it, man. We just 2073 02:13:45,990 --> 02:13:49,800 can't keep up first to be abducted by aliens. Hold that 2074 02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:54,690 door open. Here we come. Adrian Magnusson white $25 Thanks Mona 2075 02:13:54,690 --> 02:13:56,910 Adam for continuing to open my eyes love the show and 2076 02:13:56,910 --> 02:13:59,940 everything stands for from Adrienne and Sarah Magnus and 2077 02:13:59,940 --> 02:14:05,670 white $25 from Chef Elvis Rosenberg Thank you John Taylor. 2078 02:14:05,670 --> 02:14:10,830 2020 and Eric off $20 William smock $20 Hey mo Do you think 2079 02:14:10,830 --> 02:14:13,860 black folks can distinguish between a racist and a hole went 2080 02:14:13,860 --> 02:14:17,100 out in the in the world when I run into a white jerk I think a 2081 02:14:17,130 --> 02:14:19,710 hole but if I was treated the same and I was black, I might 2082 02:14:19,710 --> 02:14:20,640 think racist. 2083 02:14:21,690 --> 02:14:25,440 Yeah, we can. I would think so. Easy. Yeah. 2084 02:14:25,469 --> 02:14:27,929 And I don't think you're always looking to see if someone's 2085 02:14:27,929 --> 02:14:31,379 racist. You see if someone's in a hole before anything. I would 2086 02:14:31,469 --> 02:14:34,079 borrow a chance to get a hold and racist marker she 2087 02:14:34,080 --> 02:14:37,830 just does happen. Carlo Romero $20. Quick North Carolina 2088 02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:41,310 centric survey do preferred little brother or PD Pablo. 2089 02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:46,860 Little Brothers better PD. Pablo got the biggest hit out of North 2090 02:14:46,860 --> 02:14:48,720 Carolina ever. Take your shirt off 2091 02:14:49,080 --> 02:14:53,190 $20 from Ashanti Hill, G MacDonald says thanks for the 2092 02:14:53,190 --> 02:14:58,620 great podcast. Andrew McPeak 1776 a clear signal in honor of 2093 02:14:58,620 --> 02:15:01,620 the Fourth of July show Moe you continue to enlighten the 2094 02:15:01,620 --> 02:15:04,770 masses. I'm embarking on some new books based off the show. 2095 02:15:04,770 --> 02:15:07,860 We'll be starting Malcolm's autobiography once it arrives 2096 02:15:07,860 --> 02:15:10,740 and digging into the Black Panthers. After that we were all 2097 02:15:10,740 --> 02:15:15,630 lied to in school. Hey, join the party. Andrew. I asked this 2098 02:15:15,630 --> 02:15:19,080 question to producer Jim during the GBG show, why is no one ever 2099 02:15:19,080 --> 02:15:21,810 asked the question as to why Sharpton and Jackson had been 2100 02:15:21,810 --> 02:15:24,960 able to operate in complete safety for the last 40 years, 2101 02:15:25,140 --> 02:15:28,620 but Malcolm King seals Newton, Evers, etc who were all for 2102 02:15:28,620 --> 02:15:30,240 progression of the black community were either 2103 02:15:30,240 --> 02:15:34,740 assassinated or put in prison. I pause for most comment 2104 02:15:37,260 --> 02:15:41,940 or you not an asset to yourself. We don't want progress we want 2105 02:15:41,940 --> 02:15:44,940 you know, we want to pull a pond not progress. 2106 02:15:45,120 --> 02:15:50,670 Ponds not progress. There you go. On a side note, have you 2107 02:15:50,670 --> 02:15:54,870 watched Malcolm X Docu series on Netflix? The gentleness? Is it 2108 02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:56,520 good? I have not watched it yet. Is it good? 2109 02:15:57,030 --> 02:16:00,180 Yes, it is. It's depressing, but it's good. Okay, good. 2110 02:16:02,280 --> 02:16:04,770 Well, thank you very much, Andrew and thank you for the 2111 02:16:04,770 --> 02:16:08,310 support David Smith. 1619 another message loving the show 2112 02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:12,480 MO You are changing my opinion on a great many things. David 2113 02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:15,630 Driscoll 1533 intellectual reparations. Thank you for the 2114 02:16:15,630 --> 02:16:21,540 truth. theater, theater or Poppy anon No, I think 1333 Ted from 2115 02:16:21,540 --> 02:16:25,590 PA for several months found Adam through JRE no agenda helped me 2116 02:16:25,590 --> 02:16:30,900 and my pregnant silent smokin hot wife make it through some 2117 02:16:30,900 --> 02:16:33,870 tough and uncertain times. Moe facts is another beacon of 2118 02:16:33,870 --> 02:16:37,950 greats sense making an entertainment 1333 Because my 2119 02:16:37,950 --> 02:16:41,070 mom had a dream about that number. And what better place to 2120 02:16:41,070 --> 02:16:44,460 put my speculation about its meaning than donating to YouTube 2121 02:16:44,460 --> 02:16:47,640 for the first time. More to come after we have our son thank you 2122 02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:51,780 and can I please get a Woosah mix goat? No karma you you got 2123 02:16:51,780 --> 02:17:00,210 it. We'll do your some Musa here with a goat we're nearing the 2124 02:17:00,210 --> 02:17:01,080 end here. 2125 02:17:01,410 --> 02:17:04,110 Can I stop you right there because this has to go with the 2126 02:17:04,110 --> 02:17:07,710 people under $10. Okay, so you know you say you want to shorten 2127 02:17:07,710 --> 02:17:10,620 the list just to shorten the show up. So we're going to have 2128 02:17:10,620 --> 02:17:13,950 a cut off soon. Okay, well, I will say this is just my 2129 02:17:13,950 --> 02:17:19,980 recommendation. Everybody that donates are between one penny 2130 02:17:20,940 --> 02:17:24,990 and $9.99 we do a pick three number because this guy right 2131 02:17:24,990 --> 02:17:29,820 here this led me to this in the black community. Number running 2132 02:17:29,820 --> 02:17:32,640 numbers is like and playing numbers is like a big thing. 2133 02:17:33,810 --> 02:17:37,260 Okay, it's the picture it's the pic three and a dream number a 2134 02:17:37,290 --> 02:17:40,380 lot of women and men say oh train dream net number and 2135 02:17:40,380 --> 02:17:43,950 they'll play it right so maybe we just have one lucky person 2136 02:17:44,490 --> 02:17:51,810 that hits that number Okay, we'll read their note that way 2137 02:17:51,810 --> 02:17:55,290 we will hear from everybody we everybody has voice so in this 2138 02:17:55,290 --> 02:17:56,430 just just not do 2139 02:17:56,580 --> 02:17:59,550 so this is lucky three is this we can get a 711 that lucky 2140 02:17:59,550 --> 02:18:00,960 three numbers yes 2141 02:18:00,990 --> 02:18:03,600 pick three pick three is what caught this pick three but I 2142 02:18:03,600 --> 02:18:03,960 mean, 2143 02:18:04,170 --> 02:18:06,660 I didn't know I didn't know. I didn't know it's a big eight off 2144 02:18:06,660 --> 02:18:07,560 thing that pick three 2145 02:18:07,559 --> 02:18:11,759 Yeah. No, but what we'll see it was not from like the state 2146 02:18:11,759 --> 02:18:16,649 lottery. It was the number run Max Yeah, so Malcolm X was a 2147 02:18:16,649 --> 02:18:22,229 number runner and loved it this Yes. So I'm just an idea y'all 2148 02:18:22,229 --> 02:18:24,389 let me know with this. Well, it's just so we always can hear 2149 02:18:24,389 --> 02:18:30,029 from I vote in favor up. Yeah, okay. All right. Let's improve. 2150 02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:33,000 Good. Yeah, well, we'll have to do that because otherwise it's 2151 02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:35,790 just a lot of show Steven McConnell thanks for the sanity 2152 02:18:35,790 --> 02:18:40,080 says with 1111 Running numbers himself there. Kevin ROA $10 2153 02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:44,910 value for value. Air Con Octomom thanks for I'm just gonna do 2154 02:18:44,910 --> 02:18:47,430 them all for today. Well $10 Thanks, man. I 2155 02:18:47,430 --> 02:18:49,740 don't know that's fine. Yeah, but moving forward. Yeah, 2156 02:18:49,890 --> 02:18:51,990 absolutely. Really enjoy 2157 02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:55,620 every minute of this keep it up much love fun from Berlin new 2158 02:18:55,620 --> 02:19:00,690 canoe cone. Okay. Derrick McNulty $10 Wish I could pay 2159 02:19:00,690 --> 02:19:03,060 more it's fine. That's great value for us. Love the show 2160 02:19:03,060 --> 02:19:05,520 Bobby flush $10 Thanks for spreading so much needed 2161 02:19:05,520 --> 02:19:10,080 knowledge Harkin riders 759 show support to the note on Twitter 2162 02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:14,760 best Dan, did you see the anything on Twitter? probably 2163 02:19:14,760 --> 02:19:16,290 missed it. Andrew. 2164 02:19:16,350 --> 02:19:18,960 I'll get him next show. I'm sorry about that. I couldn't 2165 02:19:18,960 --> 02:19:21,480 find it but I'll set up the senator again. All I had to do. 2166 02:19:21,809 --> 02:19:24,209 Twitter is not a great place to leave your note. That's for 2167 02:19:24,209 --> 02:19:27,929 sure. Andrew McPeak $5 mo my first donation was held up I 2168 02:19:27,929 --> 02:19:31,859 emailed you about it we appreciate that Andrew M fun to 2169 02:19:31,859 --> 02:19:36,479 belt Hi sorry for the racism donation last made me think 2170 02:19:36,479 --> 02:19:39,809 about how I as a simple Dutch guy could chip in so here's my 2171 02:19:39,809 --> 02:19:44,099 sorry for Black Pete donation. This the Dutch with their Black 2172 02:19:44,099 --> 02:19:48,179 Pete I will start looking for a room for further self discipline 2173 02:19:48,179 --> 02:19:52,859 and keep spreading the Gospel says Martin. That's a switch 2174 02:19:52,889 --> 02:19:57,389 like the it's a long story Black Pete is a whole nother thing but 2175 02:19:57,389 --> 02:20:00,989 if you want to know more about it, it's it's a big controversy 2176 02:20:00,989 --> 02:20:01,409 in the non 2177 02:20:02,070 --> 02:20:07,380 Black Pete may have represented the Moors in Yeah. At the time. 2178 02:20:07,410 --> 02:20:10,350 Absolutely. Absolutely. That's gonna be important that's going 2179 02:20:10,350 --> 02:20:11,100 to be important which 2180 02:20:11,130 --> 02:20:16,050 you're okay. Oh good. Good. William Hawthorne $5 Fear is the 2181 02:20:16,050 --> 02:20:18,540 mind killer. You guys help people overcome that with great 2182 02:20:18,540 --> 02:20:21,630 conversation in fact you guys are truly essential workers. 2183 02:20:22,050 --> 02:20:25,290 Thank you Kevin la Landry $5 recently started listening to 2184 02:20:25,290 --> 02:20:28,620 moe facts intriguing perspective and insights appreciate it Dave 2185 02:20:28,620 --> 02:20:35,520 Swigert 455 Terry Keller with 411 came through with $3.33 Mac 2186 02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:38,220 and cheese diet donation thank you for your courage and 2187 02:20:38,220 --> 02:20:42,630 Theodore Abend puppy Hinano who put one dollars 26 cents Ted 2188 02:20:42,630 --> 02:20:45,030 from pa again another number from my mom saying 2189 02:20:46,380 --> 02:20:50,520 this this is what led me to my original idea so this is thanks 2190 02:20:50,520 --> 02:20:53,340 to you contributed so I'm going to have a nice I'm gonna I'm 2191 02:20:53,340 --> 02:20:55,260 gonna need some lotto lotto balls Adam 2192 02:20:55,289 --> 02:20:59,639 i Okay, I gotta go. I don't have a lot of ball. I but I will get 2193 02:20:59,639 --> 02:21:03,809 a lot of ball machine in here. Right? Well, these people have 2194 02:21:03,809 --> 02:21:07,799 helped all of you have helped produce episode 43 of Mo facts 2195 02:21:07,799 --> 02:21:11,219 with Adam curry. It's very simple. What did What value did 2196 02:21:11,219 --> 02:21:13,739 you get from this and the two or three hours that we do this 2197 02:21:13,739 --> 02:21:17,459 show. Just whatever you compare that to that's very different 2198 02:21:17,459 --> 02:21:21,749 for every individual which is makes it so easy to support the 2199 02:21:21,749 --> 02:21:25,319 program because you put in and when what you put in you get out 2200 02:21:25,319 --> 02:21:28,469 of it and what you get out of it, you put back into it, and it 2201 02:21:28,469 --> 02:21:30,539 makes you producers and of course we will have our 2202 02:21:30,749 --> 02:21:34,499 Associate Executive producers and executive producers listed 2203 02:21:34,739 --> 02:21:37,469 proudly in the show notes which should be able to find it mo 2204 02:21:37,469 --> 02:21:42,689 facts.com. And you can support us by going to mo fax.com Or go 2205 02:21:42,689 --> 02:21:47,699 to directly to the donation page at mo fund me.com moe 2206 02:21:47,699 --> 02:21:54,509 FUNDM me.com. And thank you all for producing episode 43. 2207 02:21:59,220 --> 02:22:02,640 Well, I like to appreciate I'm sure everybody appreciation for 2208 02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:06,510 the value for value that they gave us another person given now 2209 02:22:06,510 --> 02:22:11,760 that you is Mr. George Soros. With a number of $200 million 2210 02:22:13,350 --> 02:22:17,670 press release, Open Society Foundations announced $220 2211 02:22:17,670 --> 02:22:22,290 million for building power in black communities. To support 2212 02:22:22,290 --> 02:22:25,920 this nation's historic movement towards racial justice. The Open 2213 02:22:25,920 --> 02:22:29,460 Society Foundations today is announcing investments totaling 2214 02:22:29,460 --> 02:22:33,840 $220 million in emerging organizations and leaders 2215 02:22:33,840 --> 02:22:36,900 building power and black communities across the country, 2216 02:22:37,230 --> 02:22:41,280 placing a bet on their ability to carry today's momentum toward 2217 02:22:41,280 --> 02:22:45,870 a better tomorrow. The largest share of the support 150 million 2218 02:22:45,900 --> 02:22:49,560 will be through a set of five year grants to black LED justice 2219 02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:52,650 organizations that helped to create and now sustain the 2220 02:22:52,650 --> 02:22:56,130 momentum towards racial equality. Open society's 2221 02:22:56,130 --> 02:23:00,000 response reflects our conviction that real progress requires 2222 02:23:00,000 --> 02:23:03,180 sustained support over many years and letting leaders 2223 02:23:03,180 --> 02:23:06,330 accountable to impacted communities shaped the path 2224 02:23:06,330 --> 02:23:11,070 forward. Quote, It is inspiring and powerful to experience this 2225 02:23:11,070 --> 02:23:14,340 transformational moment in the Racial Justice Movement said 2226 02:23:14,340 --> 02:23:18,090 Open Society Foundations President Patrick Gaspard we're 2227 02:23:18,090 --> 02:23:21,270 honored to be able to carry on the vital work of fighting for 2228 02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:25,440 rights, dignity and equity for oppressed people the world over 2229 02:23:25,470 --> 02:23:28,740 started by our founder and chair George Soros. 2230 02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:31,920 Yes, this show would have been two hours long had I not tossed 2231 02:23:31,920 --> 02:23:34,530 that one into into Mo's lap. 2232 02:23:34,860 --> 02:23:38,820 Yeah, we probably got a lot of students. Thank you, Adam. But 2233 02:23:39,540 --> 02:23:44,820 200 plus million dollars and gas bar, the guy that runs open 2234 02:23:44,820 --> 02:23:47,940 society. You remember when Joe Biden said to you if you're not 2235 02:23:47,970 --> 02:23:51,360 you're not black if you don't vote for Joe Biden? Yes, I 2236 02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:55,650 recall he he came out with a very simple sympathetic towards 2237 02:23:55,650 --> 02:23:59,580 Joe. And now understand why because they were going to kick 2238 02:23:59,580 --> 02:24:01,470 out $200 million to get Joe elected. 2239 02:24:02,790 --> 02:24:05,370 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 220 Actually, 2240 02:24:05,400 --> 02:24:10,230 yep. Right to so 220 That's amazing. And they're gonna go to 2241 02:24:11,520 --> 02:24:14,490 I just can't get my head around that number. That's, that's a 2242 02:24:14,490 --> 02:24:18,360 lot of freaking money. And like, where's it going to? Who are 2243 02:24:18,360 --> 02:24:21,840 these groups? These justice groups? Of course, they're going 2244 02:24:21,840 --> 02:24:25,650 to getting the source this does it like because we've covered 2245 02:24:25,650 --> 02:24:30,510 that in previous shows where George Soros is enjoying getting 2246 02:24:31,890 --> 02:24:38,070 non white or left leaning white district attorneys preferably 2247 02:24:38,070 --> 02:24:39,960 Yes, female we just 2248 02:24:39,960 --> 02:24:44,040 got one in Austin, although not female, but there was huge 2249 02:24:44,070 --> 02:24:49,080 $600,000 That came from Soros political action committee that 2250 02:24:49,080 --> 02:24:50,640 helped the new da 2251 02:24:51,600 --> 02:24:56,700 Yes, so that mean that's that's Sorrell sisters all day and you 2252 02:24:56,700 --> 02:25:02,040 spell that dollar sign o r o dollar sign. dollar sign. And I 2253 02:25:02,040 --> 02:25:07,050 dollars. I mean $1 sign dollar sign, dollar sign T $1 sign. So 2254 02:25:07,050 --> 02:25:10,410 that's enough dollar signs for you that's Soro sisters, that's 2255 02:25:10,410 --> 02:25:12,780 how you spell this, right? Because there's, there's all 2256 02:25:12,780 --> 02:25:16,230 there, that's all there about is their dollars at the end of the 2257 02:25:16,230 --> 02:25:22,290 day. And you can see this brand, this black branding that Patrice 2258 02:25:22,320 --> 02:25:28,440 alluded to, in her previous clip is about just giving cover for 2259 02:25:28,440 --> 02:25:32,850 these corporations and these quasi governmental 2260 02:25:33,300 --> 02:25:36,840 agents office. So part of it is licensing. I mean, it really is 2261 02:25:36,870 --> 02:25:40,560 not just moral licensing, but actual licensing. And believe 2262 02:25:40,560 --> 02:25:46,230 me, black, black Inc, has it has it locked down locked up. This 2263 02:25:46,230 --> 02:25:49,230 really, these nonprofits, I've looked into them. And I don't 2264 02:25:49,230 --> 02:25:51,960 know, if you want to go into a mo or what we need to discuss. 2265 02:25:51,960 --> 02:25:56,370 But these, these very small to person nonprofits, similar to 2266 02:25:56,370 --> 02:25:59,970 the Patrisse, Cullors, kind of initial Black Lives Matter 2267 02:25:59,970 --> 02:26:05,160 startup, then there's a larger organization, which is more of a 2268 02:26:05,160 --> 02:26:10,110 clearing house. And a lot of these organizations do that. For 2269 02:26:10,110 --> 02:26:14,430 instance, the Austin Justice Coalition, very small, they say 2270 02:26:14,430 --> 02:26:17,670 they're nonprofit, but they're not really they have a, what 2271 02:26:17,670 --> 02:26:21,900 they call a, there's a special kind of agreement, which I 2272 02:26:21,900 --> 02:26:25,680 questioned if that should be legal or not, where a bigger 2273 02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:28,740 nonprofit with all the back office can actually do all that 2274 02:26:28,740 --> 02:26:32,040 work for you. But you give them money to them. And they can if 2275 02:26:32,040 --> 02:26:35,190 they want earmark some of it, according to the agreement to go 2276 02:26:35,190 --> 02:26:38,520 for other things. And it's also it's just completely goggles 2277 02:26:38,520 --> 02:26:40,470 carry goggles. 2278 02:26:41,760 --> 02:26:45,390 It's nuts. The thing is, it's so not transparent. 2279 02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:50,610 All right. I know, I know. I don't know what, let's get into 2280 02:26:50,610 --> 02:26:53,100 the second clip about open society. And now like the 2281 02:26:53,100 --> 02:26:59,730 mission that is written it is read by James Jennifer. Yes, 2282 02:26:59,790 --> 02:27:04,020 we recognize that the struggle to dismantle systemic racism is 2283 02:27:04,020 --> 02:27:08,010 an ongoing one. It has existed from the dawn of the Republic to 2284 02:27:08,010 --> 02:27:11,790 the present day and is embedded in every level of government and 2285 02:27:11,790 --> 02:27:15,180 in our penal and justice systems. But the power surge of 2286 02:27:15,180 --> 02:27:17,910 people who have taken to the streets to demand that this 2287 02:27:17,910 --> 02:27:21,690 nation do better people of all ages, from all backgrounds and 2288 02:27:21,690 --> 02:27:25,260 in every corner of this country gives hope to us all. The 2289 02:27:25,260 --> 02:27:28,980 success of this movement, the largest in US history will be 2290 02:27:28,980 --> 02:27:32,910 measured over years, not weeks. And we cannot say that black 2291 02:27:32,910 --> 02:27:35,910 lives matter and not make a multi year commitment to a 2292 02:27:35,910 --> 02:27:39,930 strategy set by and centering black leaders and organizations 2293 02:27:39,930 --> 02:27:43,410 who changed America sense of what is possible, said Tom 2294 02:27:43,410 --> 02:27:48,300 Paralia, Executive Director of open society us recipients of 2295 02:27:48,300 --> 02:27:51,300 this set of investments range from emerging groups to more 2296 02:27:51,330 --> 02:27:55,650 established forces for civil rights. Among them, black voters 2297 02:27:55,650 --> 02:27:59,910 matter circle for justice innovations, repairers of the 2298 02:27:59,910 --> 02:28:04,050 breach, and the Equal Justice Initiative. Some are fighting 2299 02:28:04,050 --> 02:28:06,960 for an end to policing as we know it, and others are fighting 2300 02:28:06,960 --> 02:28:09,690 for access to the ballot. Collectively, these 2301 02:28:09,690 --> 02:28:13,440 organizations make up a vital ecosystem of justice one that's 2302 02:28:13,440 --> 02:28:16,830 poised to harness the extraordinary energy of today 2303 02:28:16,920 --> 02:28:19,710 and ensure it results in meaningful reform. 2304 02:28:22,320 --> 02:28:26,610 So there you have it. Soros is shelling out the cash. And when 2305 02:28:26,610 --> 02:28:30,240 you said this, when we said this over a year, almost a year ago, 2306 02:28:30,570 --> 02:28:34,230 people roll their eyes like all sorrows. Everything is so gross, 2307 02:28:34,230 --> 02:28:40,620 but it is not like I said, Sir, I was just drew the short straw. 2308 02:28:40,860 --> 02:28:42,750 He He's the 2309 02:28:42,750 --> 02:28:44,400 mascot to do it, man. You 2310 02:28:44,400 --> 02:28:50,610 got to do it. Right. Um, he drew the short straw. Now he's had to 2311 02:28:50,610 --> 02:28:53,850 have his name out there. But it's funny what organization 2312 02:28:53,850 --> 02:28:57,600 wasn't mentioned in that whole rundown? It wasn't black lives 2313 02:28:57,600 --> 02:29:03,090 matter. I found that very interesting that is it that 2314 02:29:03,090 --> 02:29:04,560 they're trying to remain? 2315 02:29:05,250 --> 02:29:13,860 Well, again, no. There's one of these nonprofits. If you look at 2316 02:29:13,860 --> 02:29:17,100 them, and I look at the form 990 I just forget which one it is to 2317 02:29:17,100 --> 02:29:18,420 think the second one on the list. 2318 02:29:18,570 --> 02:29:21,210 And let's tell people what that is. That's the CCC, right? 2319 02:29:21,210 --> 02:29:23,250 That's a carry cash Chase. Yes. 2320 02:29:24,390 --> 02:29:28,410 Excuse me. So every nonprofit has to report their operations 2321 02:29:28,890 --> 02:29:34,200 in the end is called an IRS Form 990. Now a very small ones under 2322 02:29:34,200 --> 02:29:37,620 $200,000 can file an easy form, which to give you almost no 2323 02:29:37,620 --> 02:29:40,710 information. But on the form, you can see how much money they 2324 02:29:40,710 --> 02:29:44,100 brought in what they spent what they spent it on. It rarely 2325 02:29:44,100 --> 02:29:49,950 gives you the actual donors and how that money comes in. And 2326 02:29:49,950 --> 02:29:53,010 it's not necessarily a requirement although over 2327 02:29:53,010 --> 02:29:56,220 certain levels it is, but it's all hidden, but it gives you 2328 02:29:56,220 --> 02:29:58,680 some transparency at least gives you an idea of what people are 2329 02:29:58,680 --> 02:30:01,890 making what their expenses are. And I have a pretty good feel 2330 02:30:01,890 --> 02:30:04,740 for these kinds of things. And there's one particular, there's 2331 02:30:04,740 --> 02:30:07,200 one particular kind of nonprofit, which is, you know, 2332 02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:08,880 we don't know the division either I don't think it's 2333 02:30:08,880 --> 02:30:11,010 equally divided, they're probably getting the bulk of the 2334 02:30:11,010 --> 02:30:14,160 money. And that's the type of nonprofit that has a bunch of 2335 02:30:14,160 --> 02:30:19,500 people who maintain a fund. So this nonprofit brings money in 2336 02:30:19,500 --> 02:30:22,230 its donors. And of course, it's the people who are running the 2337 02:30:22,230 --> 02:30:24,780 nonprofit at the same time, a lot of them are financial years 2338 02:30:24,780 --> 02:30:28,860 hedge fund people. And so they can all stand around and say, 2339 02:30:28,860 --> 02:30:32,040 Look, we did a good job, because they give the money out. So they 2340 02:30:32,220 --> 02:30:34,950 take the money in from the from the big sources, and they pass 2341 02:30:34,950 --> 02:30:38,610 it on. And that is, in fact, their charity is the operating 2342 02:30:38,610 --> 02:30:42,870 of the charity. So you can slosh a lot of stuff to a lot of 2343 02:30:42,870 --> 02:30:46,560 people, particularly if you have one of these financial 2344 02:30:46,560 --> 02:30:51,270 agreements, where your nonprofit is taking care of the legal 2345 02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:56,820 taking care of the HR, the payroll for the smaller groups, 2346 02:30:57,030 --> 02:31:01,350 like, well, in fact, some of the Black Lives Matter chapters, and 2347 02:31:01,350 --> 02:31:07,590 it's a pass through. So outfits, like the Open Society Institute, 2348 02:31:08,010 --> 02:31:11,340 can donate this money it goes in and you know, they could have a 2349 02:31:11,430 --> 02:31:13,830 meeting over coffee and say, Hey, make sure you give it to 2350 02:31:13,830 --> 02:31:16,980 them or to them. I mean, that's, there's no transparency over 2351 02:31:16,980 --> 02:31:20,130 that process at this point. Other than here's the money 2352 02:31:20,130 --> 02:31:23,160 going in, here's where it went in and look who's on the street. 2353 02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:26,310 And that's really what you can then learn. 2354 02:31:27,780 --> 02:31:30,720 Well, people are starting to ask questions. And one of the 2355 02:31:30,720 --> 02:31:33,510 question you're asking is how Black Lives Matter is being 2356 02:31:33,510 --> 02:31:33,930 funded. 2357 02:31:34,890 --> 02:31:40,140 Black Lives Matter global network foundation. That's the 2358 02:31:40,140 --> 02:31:50,310 organization. They get millions of dollars, but but they are not 2359 02:31:50,910 --> 02:31:56,100 approved as a tax exempt organization. So if you give 2360 02:31:56,100 --> 02:32:03,240 them money on paper, you could not deduct it. So according to 2361 02:32:03,240 --> 02:32:05,880 The Washington Times investigation, George Soros 2362 02:32:05,880 --> 02:32:10,260 since 2015, it's given Black Lives Matter global network 2363 02:32:10,260 --> 02:32:16,920 Foundation, $33 million. And on paper, he can't write it off. 2364 02:32:17,520 --> 02:32:24,360 But he can't. Now here it comes. So the Black Lives Matter global 2365 02:32:24,390 --> 02:32:29,640 network. Okay, incorporated in Delaware. Joe Biden's home state 2366 02:32:30,630 --> 02:32:38,220 has forged in alliance with a group called 1000 currents, 1000 2367 02:32:38,220 --> 02:32:44,610 currents, C U R, R e, n t s 1000. Currents. They're in 2368 02:32:44,610 --> 02:32:50,100 Oakland, California. They are run by a guy named Paul stress. 2369 02:32:50,130 --> 02:32:55,230 Berg. Let's see Paul. Far left way, way left. 2370 02:32:57,720 --> 02:33:04,500 I did a deep deep dive into 1000 currents. Can I depart on this 2371 02:33:04,500 --> 02:33:07,830 and I tell you what I learned? Please do please, I've been 2372 02:33:07,830 --> 02:33:12,540 waiting. In light of this show. Unless you already know this, it 2373 02:33:12,540 --> 02:33:19,080 will be quite shocking to you 1000 currents. Now, there, the 2374 02:33:19,080 --> 02:33:22,080 information is always going to be behind because, you know, 2375 02:33:22,110 --> 02:33:27,870 2018 taxes were filed. They don't have 19. So we really have 2376 02:33:27,900 --> 02:33:33,810 we won't know about 2020 until 2021. But they're about a six to 2377 02:33:33,810 --> 02:33:38,730 $7 million that they brought in. What's interesting about the 2378 02:33:39,030 --> 02:33:43,500 1000 currents is it's a name change, it was rebranded around 2379 02:33:43,500 --> 02:33:51,840 2015 20 1314. I can't tell exactly. And the executive 2380 02:33:51,840 --> 02:33:56,310 director was removed, it used to be known as the ID x, which was 2381 02:33:56,310 --> 02:34:00,840 the international development exchange was run by an Indian 2382 02:34:00,870 --> 02:34:06,060 Indian lady. And they they really, as they even current or 2383 02:34:06,090 --> 02:34:10,290 1000 current say they're really involved with the southern 2384 02:34:10,290 --> 02:34:17,010 hemisphere Africa with deprive groups, etc. But it's not 2385 02:34:17,010 --> 02:34:19,590 necessarily that, in fact, not very much about black lives 2386 02:34:19,590 --> 02:34:23,190 matter at all. Other than that, they do the processing for them. 2387 02:34:23,550 --> 02:34:26,940 But what's interesting is you can learn from the form 990, 2388 02:34:26,970 --> 02:34:30,480 about the board of directors, and, you know, if they're 2389 02:34:30,480 --> 02:34:33,930 getting paid at all salaries are listed. And I decided to take a 2390 02:34:33,930 --> 02:34:36,870 look at some of these Board of Director members and the vice 2391 02:34:36,870 --> 02:34:42,840 chair of the board of directors is Susan Rosenberg. Susan Lisa 2392 02:34:42,840 --> 02:34:47,610 Rosenberg. Have you ever heard of her Mo? No, I have not. Well, 2393 02:34:47,940 --> 02:34:53,370 Susan Rosenberg, born in 1955 is an American activist, writer and 2394 02:34:53,370 --> 02:34:57,420 advocate for social justice and prisoners rights from the late 2395 02:34:57,420 --> 02:35:02,100 1970s to the mid 1980s Rosa Berg was active in the far left 2396 02:35:02,100 --> 02:35:06,990 revolutionary terrorist may 19 Communist organization, also 2397 02:35:06,990 --> 02:35:11,160 known as M. 19, which according to the contemptuous FBI report, 2398 02:35:11,310 --> 02:35:14,430 openly advocated the overthrow of the US government through 2399 02:35:14,430 --> 02:35:19,230 armed struggle and the use of violence. And M 19 provided 2400 02:35:19,230 --> 02:35:23,250 support to an offshoot of the Black Liberation Army, including 2401 02:35:23,340 --> 02:35:27,030 sounding familiar, including an armored truck robberies and 2402 02:35:27,030 --> 02:35:29,880 later engaged in bombings and government buildings. Some of us 2403 02:35:29,880 --> 02:35:33,030 will remember if you are around after living as a fugitive for 2404 02:35:33,030 --> 02:35:35,820 two years, Rosenberg was arrested in 1984. While in 2405 02:35:35,820 --> 02:35:38,820 possession of a large cache of explosives and firearms. 2406 02:35:38,820 --> 02:35:41,760 Remember, she's on the board of the organization that does the 2407 02:35:41,760 --> 02:35:45,780 money for black lives matter. She had also been sought as an 2408 02:35:45,780 --> 02:35:50,790 accomplice in the 1979 prison escape of Assata Shakur and the 2409 02:35:50,790 --> 02:35:53,790 1981 Brinks robbery that resulted in the deaths of two 2410 02:35:53,790 --> 02:35:58,740 police and Nygaard. Rosenberg here it comes with sentence 258 2411 02:35:58,740 --> 02:36:02,400 years in prison on the weapons and explosive charges. She spent 2412 02:36:02,400 --> 02:36:05,580 16 years in prison during which he became a poet, author and 2413 02:36:05,610 --> 02:36:09,930 AIDS activist. Her sentence was commuted to time served by 2414 02:36:09,930 --> 02:36:14,160 President Bill Clinton on January 20 2001, his final day 2415 02:36:14,160 --> 02:36:24,630 in office, this is in fact, a radicalized feminist Marxist who 2416 02:36:24,660 --> 02:36:29,400 was doing the very same things that Black Lives Matter is 2417 02:36:29,400 --> 02:36:29,880 doing. 2418 02:36:31,980 --> 02:36:32,820 Birds of a feather. 2419 02:36:33,630 --> 02:36:37,380 I mean, did you know this? Did you know about Rosen? 2420 02:36:37,380 --> 02:36:40,980 I did not I did not I know about Assata Shakur and the bank 2421 02:36:40,980 --> 02:36:41,940 robberies? And 2422 02:36:42,360 --> 02:36:46,500 did you know that she was she is the vice chair of essentially 2423 02:36:46,500 --> 02:36:49,140 the entire operation of black ink. 2424 02:36:50,310 --> 02:36:53,220 I did not know. And Jesus, this is the 2425 02:36:53,250 --> 02:36:57,360 she's a machine, a communist, a Marxist. These are just nuts, 2426 02:36:57,360 --> 02:37:01,800 the same script the exact in some, it's the same people. 2427 02:37:02,400 --> 02:37:07,410 And if you go to the 1000 current website and look at 2428 02:37:07,410 --> 02:37:15,840 their logo, the O and the U is represented by aura bourse, or 2429 02:37:15,840 --> 02:37:19,080 the affinity sign or the snake eating and eating itself. 2430 02:37:21,180 --> 02:37:26,550 Holy crap. And so this the previous so what they did is 2431 02:37:26,550 --> 02:37:30,900 they they just took this nonprofit. And I found the 2432 02:37:30,900 --> 02:37:34,800 resignation letter from the previous executive directors 2433 02:37:34,800 --> 02:37:37,710 like well, you know, obviously there's change, they have some 2434 02:37:37,710 --> 02:37:40,590 different ideas. I'm leaving wish everybody well. And 2435 02:37:40,590 --> 02:37:43,800 everything changed. They just took this existing organization 2436 02:37:44,280 --> 02:37:49,680 and rebranded and there's and this is a complete slush front 2437 02:37:49,680 --> 02:37:53,760 front. But is it really because we have one of the most radical 2438 02:37:53,760 --> 02:37:58,980 Marxist people right here in the operation? And somehow it's not 2439 02:37:58,980 --> 02:38:00,990 really reported on that much. 2440 02:38:01,260 --> 02:38:05,610 And she's dealing with other radical Marxist playing the same 2441 02:38:05,610 --> 02:38:06,150 tactics. 2442 02:38:06,150 --> 02:38:09,360 That is your high command right there. Well, your high 2443 02:38:09,390 --> 02:38:10,620 operational command, 2444 02:38:11,130 --> 02:38:14,010 right. And the money he was saying the money still come 2445 02:38:14,010 --> 02:38:16,260 pouring in, like, Oh, we got our books straight over here. You 2446 02:38:16,260 --> 02:38:19,800 just give us the money and we'll filter it out. Man. That's 2447 02:38:20,940 --> 02:38:25,650 exactly. Here. 2011 Rosenberg published a memoir, an American 2448 02:38:25,650 --> 02:38:30,810 radical political prisoner in my own country. I mean, this is so 2449 02:38:30,810 --> 02:38:34,020 good in light of how you set us up throughout this throughout 2450 02:38:34,020 --> 02:38:37,170 the show today, most fantastic this fits so perfectly. 2451 02:38:37,500 --> 02:38:41,580 And if I'm not mistaking, I think their new leadership is 2452 02:38:41,610 --> 02:38:46,440 Somali lady. So if you want to get into the Somali connection, 2453 02:38:46,440 --> 02:38:50,160 surprise, surprise, I'm just saying I'm just gonna put that 2454 02:38:50,160 --> 02:38:50,970 out there. I'm not gonna 2455 02:38:51,240 --> 02:38:53,790 they never disappoint do they know, right? 2456 02:38:55,050 --> 02:38:59,040 But this the same thing was going on in 1966. And it was 2457 02:38:59,040 --> 02:39:01,080 uncovered by the John Birch Society, 2458 02:39:01,560 --> 02:39:06,360 anarchy, the breakdown of law and order, a chaotic Reign of 2459 02:39:06,390 --> 02:39:10,770 Terror, mob rule and rioting, the collapse of government 2460 02:39:10,770 --> 02:39:15,360 authority. These phrases rings strange in the ears of Americans 2461 02:39:15,420 --> 02:39:19,320 and for good reason. Through the years, America has stood as the 2462 02:39:19,320 --> 02:39:22,590 world's symbol for law and order. Our government is 2463 02:39:22,590 --> 02:39:25,410 responsive to the will of the people, our courts and 2464 02:39:25,410 --> 02:39:28,500 legislatures provide the mechanics for a peaceful redress 2465 02:39:28,500 --> 02:39:32,670 of grievances. And the policeman on the corner has traditionally 2466 02:39:32,670 --> 02:39:36,180 been looked upon as a friend, not as the instrument of a 2467 02:39:36,180 --> 02:39:41,730 tyrant anarchy. Well, that was something we read about in our 2468 02:39:41,730 --> 02:39:44,700 newspapers that was always happening in other countries. 2469 02:39:45,780 --> 02:39:50,250 Then in the summer of 1964, widespread rioting and looting 2470 02:39:50,250 --> 02:39:56,250 suddenly broke out in Harlem, in Rochester, in New York, in 2471 02:39:56,250 --> 02:40:03,990 Jersey City in Philadelphia. Cleveland, and Chicago, all 2472 02:40:03,990 --> 02:40:08,820 within a few days of each other. It was as though one unseen hand 2473 02:40:09,000 --> 02:40:13,290 had given the signal. The degree of communist influence in these 2474 02:40:13,290 --> 02:40:17,160 riots has been subject of much discussion and controversy. 2475 02:40:17,700 --> 02:40:21,960 Not any more than I love it, because we can just, we can 2476 02:40:21,960 --> 02:40:25,290 almost predict the next steps in the script. And maybe people 2477 02:40:25,290 --> 02:40:29,910 have this knowledge, they see this repeat from the 30s. And 2478 02:40:29,910 --> 02:40:31,050 then the 60s, 2479 02:40:31,050 --> 02:40:34,500 fix these and then they redid it and then add them it was more 2480 02:40:34,530 --> 02:40:37,680 cultural Marxism then, but now they're coming back around to 2481 02:40:37,680 --> 02:40:39,240 the hardcore stuff. That's right, 2482 02:40:39,660 --> 02:40:42,480 that maybe maybe we'll all get an effing clue. 2483 02:40:44,040 --> 02:40:47,790 And when you support these organizations now, be clear that 2484 02:40:47,790 --> 02:40:51,930 you're supporting Marxist agendas. I mean, I can't put it 2485 02:40:51,930 --> 02:40:57,540 any other way. And this is where it gets really juicy, not only 2486 02:40:57,540 --> 02:41:02,730 you supporting a Marxist Marxist agenda, you may be supporting a 2487 02:41:02,730 --> 02:41:04,830 racist himself in Marx, 2488 02:41:04,980 --> 02:41:08,850 because Marx wanted German socialists Ferdinand LaSalle, to 2489 02:41:09,060 --> 02:41:12,750 find me some literary business in Germany to supplant my 2490 02:41:12,750 --> 02:41:17,130 diminished income and increased expenditure. He cultivated him 2491 02:41:17,130 --> 02:41:21,840 with flattery to his face and contempt behind his back. Marx 2492 02:41:21,840 --> 02:41:25,560 referred to LaSalle spoke on Hegel as an exhibition of 2493 02:41:25,560 --> 02:41:30,360 enormous erudition, when writing to LaSalle. And as a silly 2494 02:41:30,360 --> 02:41:35,910 concoction. When writing two angles. Mark's added, Sal was a 2495 02:41:35,910 --> 02:41:39,900 Jewish nigger, based on Marx's analysis of his appearance. 2496 02:41:43,530 --> 02:41:49,020 Oh, hold on a second, we just show just got canceled. 2497 02:41:50,520 --> 02:41:53,280 We gotta cancel Karl Marx. Yeah, no 2498 02:41:53,280 --> 02:41:56,520 kidding. He's no good. He's no good. He's, uh, 2499 02:41:56,550 --> 02:42:00,810 he said the N word. And then he said, No, we called him a Jewish 2500 02:42:00,810 --> 02:42:01,260 nigger. 2501 02:42:01,980 --> 02:42:03,330 It's a J N word. 2502 02:42:03,720 --> 02:42:07,680 What I'm saying is either way, either way you cut that that 2503 02:42:07,680 --> 02:42:12,480 combination of words, he gotta get a bite here. What? What, 2504 02:42:12,480 --> 02:42:15,690 what are we doing here? And we know what it gets. We need to 2505 02:42:15,690 --> 02:42:19,560 get, we need a clip of him saying that? Well, I don't have 2506 02:42:19,560 --> 02:42:22,650 a clip. I don't have a clip of him saying this. But this is 2507 02:42:22,650 --> 02:42:27,510 from a very reputable author, Mr. Thomas Sol. 2508 02:42:27,750 --> 02:42:31,950 It is now perfectly clear to me that Ness testified also by his 2509 02:42:31,950 --> 02:42:35,550 cranial formation and hair growth. He is descended from the 2510 02:42:35,550 --> 02:42:40,080 Negroes who joined Moses exodus from Egypt, unless his paternal 2511 02:42:40,080 --> 02:42:43,710 mother or grandmother was crossed with a nigger. Well, 2512 02:42:43,800 --> 02:42:47,520 this combination of Jewish and Germanic stock with the Negro at 2513 02:42:47,520 --> 02:42:51,780 basic substance is bound to yield a strange product for 2514 02:42:51,780 --> 02:42:55,680 fellows in portunity is also nigger like, oh my 2515 02:42:55,680 --> 02:43:01,380 god, this is great. Karl Marx is very problematic. Yeah. 2516 02:43:02,160 --> 02:43:06,780 problematic. He, in fact, you're just normalizing racism if 2517 02:43:06,780 --> 02:43:07,920 you're for Marxism. 2518 02:43:08,340 --> 02:43:11,910 And didn't he just say the same thing that the football player, 2519 02:43:12,600 --> 02:43:16,050 the Sean Jackson get counseled for? Yes, for retweeting for 2520 02:43:16,050 --> 02:43:20,220 Hitler. Yeah, they're saying that blacks other Jews. I'm not 2521 02:43:20,220 --> 02:43:22,950 talking about the Anwar. Now go back and play that clip. Again, 2522 02:43:22,950 --> 02:43:26,460 he just call instead, the black people were the original Jews. 2523 02:43:27,750 --> 02:43:31,560 Yeah, let's be clear to me, that Miss testified also by his 2524 02:43:31,560 --> 02:43:35,190 cranial formation and hair growth. He is descended from the 2525 02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:39,720 Negroes who joined Moses exodus from Egypt, unless his paternal 2526 02:43:39,720 --> 02:43:43,320 mother or grandmother was crossed with a nigger. Well, 2527 02:43:43,410 --> 02:43:47,160 this combination of Jewish and Germanic stock with the Negroid 2528 02:43:47,160 --> 02:43:51,630 basic substance is bound to yield a strange product. That 2529 02:43:51,630 --> 02:43:54,330 losing opportunity is also nigger like, 2530 02:43:54,990 --> 02:43:59,190 Wow, man, this is so good. Have you? Have you really read all of 2531 02:43:59,190 --> 02:44:02,880 Marx? Have you really seen what he wrote? I mean, do you really 2532 02:44:02,880 --> 02:44:04,230 know how problematic he 2533 02:44:05,160 --> 02:44:09,420 is? Right? We could be we could go we could play that. Well, if 2534 02:44:09,420 --> 02:44:11,970 they tried to play the one hand, well, he's not being offensive 2535 02:44:12,000 --> 02:44:16,110 to black being passive tour, Hebrew brothers and sisters. 2536 02:44:17,550 --> 02:44:22,350 Either way, we got to get him up out of here, but there may be a 2537 02:44:22,350 --> 02:44:26,790 reason that Karl Marx is above cancellation. 2538 02:44:28,800 --> 02:44:33,120 Oh, my Karl Marx grew up a brilliant spoiled child who 2539 02:44:33,120 --> 02:44:36,360 bullied his younger sisters and taunted his schoolmates with 2540 02:44:36,360 --> 02:44:40,080 sarcastic witticisms. In addition to entertaining both 2541 02:44:40,080 --> 02:44:44,370 with imaginative stories. He had a swarthy complexion that in 2542 02:44:44,370 --> 02:44:48,330 later years earned him the nickname The more a name used 2543 02:44:48,330 --> 02:44:51,540 far more often in his inner circle, including his children 2544 02:44:51,780 --> 02:44:53,100 than was his real name. 2545 02:44:53,820 --> 02:44:57,540 Okay. You rang the bell on swarthy and I just happened to 2546 02:44:57,540 --> 02:45:01,170 know why you rang the bell because we bow studied this word 2547 02:45:01,170 --> 02:45:04,110 recently. Yes. And it was 2548 02:45:04,470 --> 02:45:07,530 called the more yes marks the more marks. 2549 02:45:07,830 --> 02:45:14,730 Wait a minute, was marked black. He was Swansea swarthy. 2550 02:45:16,199 --> 02:45:20,429 Well, for people that don't know this get the etymology. Oh 2551 02:45:20,429 --> 02:45:22,949 Swathi from chronicles of Judah 144. 2552 02:45:23,399 --> 02:45:28,619 All right now we're looking at swarthy Flora the dark colored, 2553 02:45:29,099 --> 02:45:34,889 especially of skin. All right, so now, now Benjamin Franklin, 2554 02:45:34,919 --> 02:45:39,209 he called the German swarthy. Now what Germans do you know 2555 02:45:39,209 --> 02:45:41,609 today when you once again, when you think of German, don't you 2556 02:45:41,609 --> 02:45:44,639 think of Caucasian people with blond hair and blue eyes? 2557 02:45:47,219 --> 02:45:51,719 swarthy dark Scotland especially of skin 1580s unexplained 2558 02:45:51,719 --> 02:45:57,719 alteration of swarthy from Swart. Related swappiness. Now 2559 02:45:57,719 --> 02:46:04,859 the next one, shots, also Shazza black person, somewhat 2560 02:46:04,859 --> 02:46:16,139 derogatory. 1961 yidishe from shots black, see swarthy now now 2561 02:46:16,139 --> 02:46:19,259 for the people who try to gain says Oh, no, when he says 2562 02:46:19,259 --> 02:46:22,559 swarthy, it's just talking about now why is it that when that 2563 02:46:22,559 --> 02:46:24,629 when it says black it says, See Swati? 2564 02:46:29,220 --> 02:46:33,000 I looked it up and we were reading an article about women 2565 02:46:33,000 --> 02:46:36,810 in Elizabethton times, getting this really white makeup to put 2566 02:46:36,810 --> 02:46:40,410 on the face, because they might have not been white enough at 2567 02:46:40,410 --> 02:46:43,170 the time to be part of the bloodline, and were thus seen as 2568 02:46:43,170 --> 02:46:47,490 swarthy smarts as black it's fantastic. No one knows this 2569 02:46:47,490 --> 02:46:48,390 shit anymore. 2570 02:46:51,000 --> 02:46:56,280 We have he, as he mentioned in his clip that even Benjamin 2571 02:46:56,280 --> 02:47:01,830 Franklin refer to the Germans as swarthy. Yeah, and and Tawny. 2572 02:47:01,860 --> 02:47:05,460 Which Tawny is more like a light brown. But if you go and look at 2573 02:47:05,460 --> 02:47:12,690 a younger pictures of Karl Marx he looks like Chico to barge he 2574 02:47:12,690 --> 02:47:13,770 couldn't even be L he's 2575 02:47:13,770 --> 02:47:17,940 gotta be Chico holy crap downgrade 2576 02:47:20,910 --> 02:47:25,860 now you can't write you can't make this crap up. You can't 2577 02:47:25,860 --> 02:47:29,010 make it out. So do we cast him or is He above counseling 2578 02:47:29,010 --> 02:47:31,020 because these kids that are black but nobody will tell you 2579 02:47:31,020 --> 02:47:32,610 that? Wow, 2580 02:47:32,640 --> 02:47:36,450 we've got this is that the rabbit hole where you said stop 2581 02:47:36,450 --> 02:47:39,090 we have to actually make a show. I'm just not going any further 2582 02:47:39,090 --> 02:47:42,780 than that is that kind of happened? Because it's crazy. 2583 02:47:42,780 --> 02:47:46,320 This is so good. But we tied a lot of things together here 2584 02:47:46,320 --> 02:47:49,440 while we tied to well first of all, the most important is the 2585 02:47:49,440 --> 02:47:53,970 total exposure of how this black trap has worked with the with 2586 02:47:53,970 --> 02:47:58,170 the Marxism and has expanded into any group now known as 2587 02:47:58,170 --> 02:48:03,000 identity politics right through to this to the actual man behind 2588 02:48:03,000 --> 02:48:06,570 the movement now being resurrected by Susan Lisa 2589 02:48:06,570 --> 02:48:11,460 Rosenberg for black ink. If this doesn't blow people's minds, I 2590 02:48:11,460 --> 02:48:13,950 don't know why they invented marijuana. I'm telling you, this 2591 02:48:13,950 --> 02:48:16,500 is fantastic. I really appreciate it. 2592 02:48:16,950 --> 02:48:22,320 And my major takeaway from this is Black is two things according 2593 02:48:22,320 --> 02:48:27,690 to Patrisse Cullors one you have a race, race or lineage which 2594 02:48:27,690 --> 02:48:30,300 she has says has been constructed and then you have a 2595 02:48:30,300 --> 02:48:34,740 political statement. So we birthed the term black ain't 2596 02:48:34,740 --> 02:48:36,570 here on on the show today 2597 02:48:37,020 --> 02:48:38,790 and proud of it. 2598 02:48:40,710 --> 02:48:44,790 And as I always say, pay attention to everything in the 2599 02:48:44,790 --> 02:48:46,080 true will reveal itself 2600 02:48:46,170 --> 02:48:50,880 and we will return as soon as possible within a week. Remember 2601 02:48:50,880 --> 02:48:54,630 us at mo fund me.com and check out the archives at mo facts.com 2602 02:48:54,630 --> 02:49:39,180 See you next week. See you later Hearthstone. As a real is real 2603 02:49:42,690 --> 02:50:16,440 juicy to My name is once again