1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,510 For more facts with Adam curry for March 28 2020 This is 2 00:00:12,510 --> 00:00:18,450 episode number 31 pandemic 2020 locked down at him and Moe on 3 00:00:18,450 --> 00:00:25,080 Rhona radio. Just figuring out a day gig and we never get back to 4 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:28,500 work. There'll be Adam and Mo every day. Rona radio? 5 00:00:29,670 --> 00:00:32,130 Yes, that's all Oh, in a while you're down. That's, 6 00:00:33,870 --> 00:00:37,350 you know, hold on a second. Before we do even anything I 7 00:00:37,350 --> 00:00:43,290 need to. I need to see if that domain name is available. Oh, 8 00:00:43,290 --> 00:00:49,470 let's just be funny. Let's see. Check for the domain. Rona 9 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:57,810 radio.com. Available. All right. I am now registering that we 10 00:00:57,810 --> 00:01:00,060 don't know what we'll do with it yet. If we have hopefully we 11 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:03,960 won't need it. But you never know. Rhona radio.com Everybody. 12 00:01:04,890 --> 00:01:09,780 How you doing? Our RNA. How you doing? Everything good. 13 00:01:10,530 --> 00:01:12,240 I am doing well. Sir. How about yourself? 14 00:01:12,270 --> 00:01:14,910 Yeah, pretty good. How are the kids? I gotta ask. You know, 15 00:01:14,910 --> 00:01:18,660 because we don't have any to deal with during this. This 16 00:01:18,660 --> 00:01:21,930 crisis. I know. You got four. So the hanging in? 17 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,270 Oh, no. Well, I think they miss school because my wife is even 18 00:01:27,270 --> 00:01:31,440 harder on. They get at school. We're still getting them 19 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,780 outside. Yeah. Live in life and almost positive. Yeah. So um, 20 00:01:36,780 --> 00:01:37,740 everything's working. Well, 21 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:40,320 I was gonna say it's actually it's kind of handy. You got four 22 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:49,440 kids now. You get to four times at 500 bucks actually turned out 23 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,530 to be valuable these kids for once. That's good, man. 24 00:01:52,530 --> 00:01:56,880 Congratulations on that. Thank you. So to try and keep some 25 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,060 normalcy during the lockdown. We're just continuing with our 26 00:02:00,060 --> 00:02:03,750 regular schedule with Mo facts with Adam curry. Thank you all 27 00:02:03,750 --> 00:02:08,310 for your your feedback. I can even see people posting earlier 28 00:02:08,310 --> 00:02:11,280 today. Like I need more facts now. How am I gonna get through 29 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,100 my Saturday? And 30 00:02:14,130 --> 00:02:16,980 I think I think I'd like to Saturday day because it gives 31 00:02:16,980 --> 00:02:20,040 people you know, something to look forward to to get the 32 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:20,790 weekend started on 33 00:02:21,420 --> 00:02:25,230 something to anticipate. And of course, depending on how how 34 00:02:25,230 --> 00:02:28,680 many million clips you got, you know, that kind of depends. But 35 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:32,220 the show is, is posted. So what do we got going on for today? 36 00:02:32,220 --> 00:02:33,840 Well, what's, what's the word, 37 00:02:33,990 --> 00:02:35,010 but you had to spin the wheel. 38 00:02:36,990 --> 00:02:41,370 spinning the wheel of clips, the wheel of topics, the Wheel of 39 00:02:41,370 --> 00:02:44,910 Fortune here on Moe facts let's find out what today's topic will 40 00:02:44,910 --> 00:02:48,600 be where the wheel stops nobody knows here we go the clip and go 41 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:51,300 black identity extremists. What's that? 42 00:02:51,630 --> 00:02:57,270 Black identity extremists? Yeah, he's this is this is the 43 00:02:57,270 --> 00:03:00,090 opposite of white nationalist extremists. 44 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,710 I think it's the exact same, but just different groups. Oh, okay. 45 00:03:04,770 --> 00:03:10,260 All right. I saw this is a term that cropped up in around 2017 46 00:03:11,730 --> 00:03:20,190 by a leaked FBI document. And so I waited too much time. I mean, 47 00:03:20,310 --> 00:03:24,450 it's been on my radar. But if I have time to actually dig into 48 00:03:24,450 --> 00:03:27,690 these things, I don't like to address them. So I thought this 49 00:03:27,690 --> 00:03:30,270 is this would be a great time. So this is so 50 00:03:30,270 --> 00:03:34,290 this is from your your your long, long term, open, open case 51 00:03:34,290 --> 00:03:39,090 open open cases file. This is where you live from the list. 52 00:03:39,150 --> 00:03:41,310 Got it. All right, good. Good, good. Good. 53 00:03:42,299 --> 00:03:46,679 So I guess we'll just jump right in with FBI warns of terror. 54 00:03:46,980 --> 00:03:50,820 Black identity extremists now considered a domestic terror 55 00:03:50,820 --> 00:03:54,330 threat by the FBI Bureau releasing an explosive new 56 00:03:54,330 --> 00:03:58,110 report claiming police officers are being targeted by people who 57 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,160 perceive racial injustice is the FBI says the 2014 shooting death 58 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,160 of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, spawned the threat 59 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,060 against cops Brown's death, also sparking violent riots across 60 00:04:09,060 --> 00:04:09,690 the country. 61 00:04:10,620 --> 00:04:13,320 Was this a TMZ report? Because it sure sounded like 62 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,650 it actually it was a Fox News report and the music and the 63 00:04:16,650 --> 00:04:19,830 jazz and it was the same thing it caught my attention to I'm 64 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:20,940 glad you picked up on that 65 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,020 TMZ Fox no difference. 66 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,040 So have you heard of this term? I want to know what you know 67 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,890 about it and I don't think I have I 68 00:04:33,210 --> 00:04:37,890 black extremists black identity extremists now it also it's not 69 00:04:37,890 --> 00:04:42,870 a great term. If I'm going to be a terrorist. You know, what's it 70 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:46,050 you know? I'm a terrorist over my identity. It just it sounds 71 00:04:46,050 --> 00:04:47,040 kind of wimpy 72 00:04:47,940 --> 00:04:52,050 is bi II. I mean, that was the yes, 73 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,530 it's not quite like it was not quite like Black Panthers if you 74 00:04:55,530 --> 00:05:00,900 know what I mean. Yes. Big right Panthers. Okay. And I guess no 75 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:04,470 roll out? That's not really no. But I had not heard of as far as 76 00:05:04,470 --> 00:05:04,860 I know. 77 00:05:05,820 --> 00:05:09,900 So that's interesting. So they tried to push this term. And 78 00:05:09,900 --> 00:05:13,950 obviously it didn't make it across the threshold. But it was 79 00:05:13,950 --> 00:05:17,160 trending on Black Twitter. And I'm just I'm just shocked that 80 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,620 you didn't show up on your timeline anytime. Maybe it's 81 00:05:19,620 --> 00:05:21,360 before you actually started tracking it. 82 00:05:21,390 --> 00:05:24,510 Yeah, maybe the algos just took it away from me, you never know. 83 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:30,030 Right. But it was a huge talking point on the pro black side of 84 00:05:30,030 --> 00:05:34,770 things. Because basically, it was similar to what we've seen 85 00:05:34,770 --> 00:05:38,100 in the past, with groups being targeted in how they create 86 00:05:38,100 --> 00:05:42,450 narratives. But today show we're not going to go too deep into 87 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:45,450 the groups that are being labeled this because there is no 88 00:05:45,450 --> 00:05:50,250 clear group or groups being identified as this. But how this 89 00:05:50,730 --> 00:05:54,090 term came about. And you know, I'm all about narrative. I'm all 90 00:05:54,090 --> 00:05:59,760 about how they create these terms and always like it again 91 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,880 to find out what the origin of these these things are. 92 00:06:02,940 --> 00:06:06,600 And it's also good if we'll find out today, why this one failed? 93 00:06:06,750 --> 00:06:09,930 And or did or was it stopped? I don't know. 94 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:16,140 I don't know either. But I guess we can get into FBI sites black 95 00:06:16,140 --> 00:06:17,430 extremists terror. 96 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,760 Meanwhile, the FBI warns this get this. They warned Americans 97 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,940 of new a new domestic terror threat. Black identity 98 00:06:23,940 --> 00:06:25,530 extremists. What's that? 99 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,350 Well, it goes back to a lot of these police shootings. When we 100 00:06:28,350 --> 00:06:31,080 look at a Alton Sterling shooting in Louisiana, for 101 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,460 example, you had a man man that decided in retaliation for that 102 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,000 to shoot officers, the same thing held true in Dallas, you 103 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,300 had another mad man that decided to shoot police officer who was 104 00:06:42,300 --> 00:06:45,090 a veteran. It's right, right, exactly. But when we think about 105 00:06:45,090 --> 00:06:47,850 these African American extremists, this is something 106 00:06:47,850 --> 00:06:51,270 that's a byproduct of, I'm gonna say black lives matter in a lot 107 00:06:51,270 --> 00:06:54,600 of these other organizations. And I don't want to say black 108 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,930 lives matter cause they However, they do have a responsibility to 109 00:06:57,930 --> 00:07:01,140 marshal in the following to ensure that I shouldn't say 110 00:07:01,140 --> 00:07:03,990 ensure, but let them know that we are going to protest for 111 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:06,990 peace, and they fail that that therefore they do have a level 112 00:07:06,990 --> 00:07:07,080 of 113 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:12,210 complacency. Okay, so I heard a splinter group of black lives 114 00:07:12,210 --> 00:07:14,700 matter in that report. Well, 115 00:07:15,750 --> 00:07:18,570 what these two brought up is that the Black Lives Matter 116 00:07:18,570 --> 00:07:29,070 movement kind of whipped up this this anger or frustration with 117 00:07:29,070 --> 00:07:30,060 police officers? 118 00:07:31,290 --> 00:07:35,190 I think it's fair to say a lot of anger is no looking at what 119 00:07:35,190 --> 00:07:37,020 we saw in Baltimore, a lot of anger, 120 00:07:37,410 --> 00:07:41,010 created a lot of anger. But there was no organ organization 121 00:07:41,010 --> 00:07:43,950 to the anger. Now how it got started, we've talked about it 122 00:07:43,950 --> 00:07:47,370 on the show before they became came top down. We've already 123 00:07:47,370 --> 00:07:51,540 laid out the links in previous shows of George Soros and the 124 00:07:51,540 --> 00:07:56,250 funding of him to Black Lives Matter. But the violent acts, 125 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,230 those were not tied to any specific group. And I think this 126 00:08:01,230 --> 00:08:05,700 was the point of this label, so they could kind of lump all the 127 00:08:05,700 --> 00:08:08,100 act bad actors under one title. 128 00:08:08,310 --> 00:08:13,320 Right, in order to Okay, well, that's an interesting by itself. 129 00:08:13,380 --> 00:08:16,710 Yeah. So maybe it wasn't a group, but they just gave it a 130 00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:19,470 name. And that's all these people doing this, 131 00:08:19,980 --> 00:08:22,590 where you saw the same thing with white nationalist and 132 00:08:22,980 --> 00:08:28,440 making white groups terror, making them terrorist groups. 133 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,430 And it's the same thing, but I think this does happen prior to 134 00:08:32,460 --> 00:08:35,940 it just didn't take and it's funny to only found clips like 135 00:08:35,970 --> 00:08:40,350 official news clips on the Fox network. I'm not just I'm not 136 00:08:40,350 --> 00:08:43,590 cherry picking from Fox, I'm just the the ones that were 137 00:08:43,590 --> 00:08:48,570 communicating it as an actual threat. We're only coming from 138 00:08:48,570 --> 00:08:48,900 Fox. 139 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,440 Well, that's, that's the reason why it never got any legs right 140 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,760 there. If you try to launch a meme through Fox is gonna die. 141 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,160 It's, you know, anything that comes out of there, the other 142 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,740 networks will never pick up. They'll never it'll never agree 143 00:09:01,740 --> 00:09:05,340 on that. But I do like I find it interesting that someone was out 144 00:09:05,340 --> 00:09:06,690 there and needed to name them. 145 00:09:07,770 --> 00:09:12,780 Yeah, and when you see something being named like that, it always 146 00:09:12,810 --> 00:09:16,140 it always just like, I was like, where's this going? Where's this 147 00:09:16,140 --> 00:09:21,420 coming from? I've never knew of any particular group that was 148 00:09:21,660 --> 00:09:25,920 speaking offense to violence. Now you have groups that speak 149 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,430 of self defense, but you have that on all spectrums of every 150 00:09:29,430 --> 00:09:35,010 race have, you know, if anybody comes at you, you have the right 151 00:09:35,010 --> 00:09:37,380 to defend yourself. I mean, that's just as American as apple 152 00:09:37,380 --> 00:09:42,690 pie, but I never saw like the the offensive or going out and 153 00:09:42,690 --> 00:09:46,620 attacking people. So that's what raised my arm raised the flag on 154 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:51,630 this situation. And as you mentioned before, if Fox was 155 00:09:51,630 --> 00:09:54,990 trying to push this, then you had the more liberal media 156 00:09:54,990 --> 00:09:58,020 pushing it back against this right and one of those 157 00:09:58,620 --> 00:10:00,480 organizations is being Vice. 158 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,030 Yes, we're more an advertising agency than anything but yes. 159 00:10:06,390 --> 00:10:09,840 And you're going to see that even be even more true and it's 160 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,100 next to the clips from inside the FBI hunt for black identity 161 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:15,180 extremists in the 162 00:10:15,180 --> 00:10:20,010 early morning hours. So December 12 2017, former Marine and black 163 00:10:20,010 --> 00:10:23,970 activist Christopher Daniels, aka rock combat lagoon was 164 00:10:23,970 --> 00:10:27,450 arrested at his home for unlawful gun possession. So what 165 00:10:27,450 --> 00:10:30,540 would warrant such a dramatic arrest and a possible jail 166 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:34,650 sentence of 10 years? According to a leaked FBI document, 167 00:10:34,710 --> 00:10:39,270 there's a new group of domestic terrorists black identity 168 00:10:39,270 --> 00:10:47,130 extremists Wow, 169 00:10:47,670 --> 00:10:51,660 that was very, I left that tail on there. Just 170 00:10:51,660 --> 00:10:55,980 to SET set the mood. Identity extreme. 171 00:10:57,630 --> 00:11:00,990 I left it on there purposely and I did it on a couple of clips to 172 00:11:01,350 --> 00:11:08,430 see the tone of this documentary or expos as they did on quote 173 00:11:08,430 --> 00:11:10,650 unquote, black identity extremist. 174 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:13,710 And what name did this guy have Christopher Daniels is what I 175 00:11:13,710 --> 00:11:14,160 heard. 176 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:17,730 know his name was if you gonna read it, but I didn't catch his 177 00:11:17,730 --> 00:11:22,050 name, but more important that his name is him being a former 178 00:11:22,050 --> 00:11:26,220 Marine. Yeah, pay attention. Everybody out there, pay 179 00:11:26,220 --> 00:11:30,180 attention. Make a note of the connection with the military 180 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:39,480 with these extremist. It'll be laid out later. But they, as 181 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,830 they pointed out ex Marine, where's this going? What is what 182 00:11:43,830 --> 00:11:47,730 is this? I've never heard of this guy before? No. As I told, 183 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:53,580 as I said before, that I am aware listened to a lot of 184 00:11:53,610 --> 00:11:58,230 different points of view on the black experience, correct? Yes, 185 00:11:58,260 --> 00:12:02,340 this guy has never rested on my radar ever and all of a sudden 186 00:12:02,340 --> 00:12:09,420 vices doing a huge story on him. And well, I'll let them continue 187 00:12:09,420 --> 00:12:11,250 on. telling about his story. 188 00:12:11,459 --> 00:12:14,669 Right Ken was greeted at home by family and members of Gorilla 189 00:12:14,669 --> 00:12:20,759 mainframe, the black activist group that Rakim co founded on 190 00:12:20,759 --> 00:12:23,549 their website driller mainframe describes themselves as a 191 00:12:23,549 --> 00:12:29,279 community based political organization. Their activities 192 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:33,089 include food drives, self defense classes, weapons 193 00:12:33,089 --> 00:12:37,709 training, and open carry neighborhood patrols. It was 194 00:12:37,709 --> 00:12:40,349 these kinds of activities which are visible across grilla 195 00:12:40,349 --> 00:12:44,159 mainframe and Rakim social media accounts that Rakim believes 196 00:12:44,159 --> 00:12:45,839 made him a target of the FBI. 197 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:53,250 Wow, a lot of suppositions in there. Holy crap. I can't 198 00:12:53,250 --> 00:12:57,120 believe I have found one story from the intercept fear of a 199 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,620 black homeland. The strange tale of the FBI is fictional black 200 00:13:01,620 --> 00:13:05,400 identity extremism movement. Okay. This is interesting. I bet 201 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,740 you came across this as well as you were researching it. 202 00:13:08,070 --> 00:13:12,000 Yes, yes, I did. And what I found strange or interesting was 203 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,470 the name of his group. Gorilla mainframe. Yeah, Bill, not the 204 00:13:16,470 --> 00:13:22,380 animal but like Gu e r r i L L A. Now the definition of 205 00:13:22,380 --> 00:13:27,660 guerrilla itself is a person who engages in irregular warfare, 206 00:13:28,470 --> 00:13:32,040 especially as a member of the independent unit, carrying out 207 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,540 harassment and sabotage. Second, and this is from Merriam 208 00:13:36,540 --> 00:13:40,200 Webster. And the second definition is or relating to or 209 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,770 suggestive of gorillas, especially being aggressive, 210 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,050 radical, and unconventional. 211 00:13:46,380 --> 00:13:49,620 Yes, it's not great. Guerrilla warfare is not good. 212 00:13:50,970 --> 00:13:54,210 I'm talking about why would you name your organization? Gorilla 213 00:13:54,210 --> 00:13:58,440 main frame, Gorilla mainframe? I mean, you put in a big red 214 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,600 beacon say, hey, come investigate 215 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,860 me. Kinda. 216 00:14:03,060 --> 00:14:04,860 Does that make any sense? 217 00:14:04,890 --> 00:14:07,980 Do they have gorilla mainframe.com to just registered 218 00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:09,570 to their home address is 219 00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:14,910 that they have a website and they had several YouTube videos. 220 00:14:14,940 --> 00:14:17,280 But they were just talking about basically the same thing that 221 00:14:17,910 --> 00:14:21,330 the Black Panther was doing feeding the kids and self 222 00:14:21,330 --> 00:14:25,680 defense. And I didn't really say take anything away from negative 223 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,310 but it's just all this is just way too convenient. 224 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:33,330 Yeah, I hear you. I hear ex ex military 225 00:14:33,330 --> 00:14:37,290 guy. Now he comes home and he's trying to raise a new Black 226 00:14:37,290 --> 00:14:41,670 Panther Party a quote unquote, new Black Panther Party. And 227 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:46,860 he's the first arrest under this new black ID the black identity 228 00:14:46,860 --> 00:14:51,570 extremists label. So I guess we need to figure out why the 229 00:14:51,570 --> 00:14:52,020 label? 230 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,540 Yes, I'd like to know 231 00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:58,050 there's this perception that the government promote that we are 232 00:14:58,050 --> 00:15:03,450 in a stage Have a critical emergency because of terrorism. 233 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:08,610 And that's because they get more power. And in order to retain 234 00:15:08,610 --> 00:15:11,730 that power they need to find more terrorists. One of the most 235 00:15:11,730 --> 00:15:14,850 outspoken critics of the black identity extremists assessment 236 00:15:14,910 --> 00:15:19,140 is Michael German, the former FBI agent who did undercover 237 00:15:19,140 --> 00:15:22,590 work on white supremacists and right wing militias in the 90s. 238 00:15:23,370 --> 00:15:27,450 He's now a fellow for the Brennan Center for Justice. What 239 00:15:27,450 --> 00:15:31,770 is sensitive? Do you believe that the FBI has to make a label 240 00:15:31,770 --> 00:15:33,270 like black identity extremists, 241 00:15:33,330 --> 00:15:37,080 a person cannot be targeted for investigation based solely on 242 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,800 First Amendment activity. So by creating this black identity 243 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,660 extremism movement, they can use that as the justification to 244 00:15:45,660 --> 00:15:50,310 then target any activists who are any black person who is 245 00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:55,650 protesting police violence. One of my problems with this kind of 246 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,610 half intelligence report is these are six disparate acts of 247 00:15:59,610 --> 00:16:03,600 violence that they try to mold into a movement there was really 248 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,750 nothing connecting them except the fact that they killed police 249 00:16:06,750 --> 00:16:08,310 officers in the fact that they were black. 250 00:16:09,060 --> 00:16:13,260 Yeah, this is so typical for the FBI to do these types of things. 251 00:16:13,260 --> 00:16:17,790 I'll just give you my my my gripe. My gripe upfront just 252 00:16:17,790 --> 00:16:24,060 like I was waiting for just just recently in the news. The fact 253 00:16:24,060 --> 00:16:28,200 that was during the during the right after the president, you 254 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,230 know, said hey, everybody should stay home for you No, no more 255 00:16:31,230 --> 00:16:33,840 than 10 of course a lot of cities even Austin started to 256 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,910 lock down all of a sudden after months of using a confidential a 257 00:16:38,910 --> 00:16:41,880 form informant to jack up some guy who lives with his 258 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,600 grandmother to get them all freaky and like oh, yeah, now I 259 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,680 want to go kill everybody in the in the hospital, you know, show 260 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,700 this Coronavirus is a hoax, and they give him a phony bomb and 261 00:16:53,700 --> 00:16:56,610 they give him all the oil, just get them all jacked up to go. 262 00:16:56,610 --> 00:16:59,820 And then they arrest him and the guy was armed. And you know, so 263 00:16:59,820 --> 00:17:04,500 then a shootout occurred, convenient, the guy's dead. So 264 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:09,570 he can just happens a lot. But this is a a cycle for the FBI, 265 00:17:09,570 --> 00:17:12,870 they do this kind of stuff every six weeks, or they used to do it 266 00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:19,260 every six weeks. And our new agenda shows a theory on this. 267 00:17:19,260 --> 00:17:23,550 And this comes from people inside the FBI who suggested as 268 00:17:23,550 --> 00:17:27,300 much is now they got to keep in the public eye, they got to keep 269 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:31,200 the budgets coming got to stay relevant. And now it seems like 270 00:17:31,230 --> 00:17:34,230 Oh man, what a stretch, we're actually going to create a group 271 00:17:34,230 --> 00:17:39,000 name just to lumping a whole bunch of things. And then with 272 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:44,040 that comes the same opportunity to pop things off at times that 273 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,160 are convenient for the FBI or the Department of Justice 274 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,900 wherever it's convenient for just like this Missouri bomber, 275 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:55,770 I think what what what a great moment to terrify the citizens 276 00:17:55,770 --> 00:17:57,870 even more, they could have waited. 277 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,770 And the catalyst for this really, and it's a little 278 00:18:01,770 --> 00:18:06,660 foreshadowing here into the rest of the show. It was two events, 279 00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:09,960 both several events, but two main events. And that was the 280 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:15,750 shooting and Dallas. Yes, yes, I think five cops. Yep. And then 281 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:19,650 the shooting and Baton Rouge that killed three cop cops. That 282 00:18:19,650 --> 00:18:21,210 happened. I think it was like 10 days 283 00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:25,140 was a real messy period. All that happened in just the span 284 00:18:25,140 --> 00:18:26,550 of a month or so all that stuff. 285 00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:31,260 I think was like July 7 in the second was July 17. Quote me on 286 00:18:31,260 --> 00:18:34,860 those dates, but I think it was roughly there. So they took 287 00:18:34,860 --> 00:18:38,790 these two separate events that had nothing to do with each 288 00:18:38,790 --> 00:18:42,000 other and say, Oh, we're gonna roll them up. And that's what 289 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,610 the gentleman that just spoke in the last clip was saying yeah, 290 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:52,020 roll them up into one thing 111 label one lay one label one 291 00:18:52,020 --> 00:18:55,200 create a label and then like you said with the six week cycle 292 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:01,260 that I became aware of on the no agenda show that now we have a 293 00:19:01,260 --> 00:19:02,490 new we have a new brand. 294 00:19:03,450 --> 00:19:06,810 Yeah, but this these guys mess it up clean. I don't know what 295 00:19:06,810 --> 00:19:10,110 went wrong. Maybe we'll find out but what I would if I was in the 296 00:19:10,110 --> 00:19:14,250 meeting, like Alright, I got a great idea guys. Hey, we're one 297 00:19:14,250 --> 00:19:17,400 pull this together. We'll give it a name. And then we can do 298 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,070 stuff with it. We can arrest people do all kinds have it you 299 00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:24,300 know, get money budgets. Create something scary. Yeah. Good 300 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:28,740 idea. Boss. What are we going to call it? Black identity 301 00:19:28,740 --> 00:19:29,970 extremists? 302 00:19:30,510 --> 00:19:31,770 Yeah, that's terrible. 303 00:19:32,730 --> 00:19:34,380 Like gorilla gorilla. 304 00:19:34,410 --> 00:19:37,170 What was it to a gorilla mane for real 305 00:19:37,170 --> 00:19:41,670 a mainframe. Now that's a name. It's like, Whoa, yeah, that 306 00:19:41,670 --> 00:19:42,750 sounds scary. 307 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:46,800 And the reason why I think this is just me speculating. I don't 308 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,960 think you heard about this from left wing of mainstream media is 309 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:58,800 they were so supportive of Black Lives Matter. And this bi is 310 00:19:58,830 --> 00:20:01,980 basically tied. They're trying to tie it to black lives matter. 311 00:20:02,130 --> 00:20:06,120 So if the left wing of the media starts pushing this narrative, 312 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:08,940 then they're complicit because they are the one that put the 313 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,440 battery in the back of Black Lives Matter. So they just like 314 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,960 we want to suppress this and make it go away. 315 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:20,400 Right and that would explain why Fox would be interested in 316 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:26,220 hyping the story up because they want to discredit everything the 317 00:20:26,220 --> 00:20:29,040 left does everything the left sponsors, which would be Black 318 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:29,700 Lives Matter. 319 00:20:30,450 --> 00:20:33,420 And they've always been anti Black Lives Matter. So it just 320 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:39,030 fits the brand. Easy jump to go from black lives matter to bi E. 321 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:45,510 I mean, maybe even the acronym is like a easy jump because like 322 00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:48,180 if you use the acronym instead of the, 323 00:20:48,929 --> 00:20:53,999 like, LM D. Yeah, yeah, I think they should have done notorious 324 00:20:53,999 --> 00:20:57,809 bi E. And then that would have been better than just bi e just 325 00:20:57,809 --> 00:21:05,939 me, man, I live for this stuff. The guy thought 326 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:14,910 that you start advertising. Let's get BI for. 327 00:21:15,540 --> 00:21:19,680 On August 3 2017, the FBI created the black identity 328 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:24,090 extremists assessment using the Dallas 2016 shooting and five 329 00:21:24,090 --> 00:21:27,600 other unrelated attacks on police as justification that 330 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,360 this movement exists. Black identity 331 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:33,870 extremists now considered a domestic terror threat by the 332 00:21:33,870 --> 00:21:34,500 FBI. 333 00:21:35,070 --> 00:21:38,400 According to the FBI assessment, it was very likely that these 334 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,980 terrorists would target law enforcement officers in 335 00:21:40,980 --> 00:21:43,950 retaliation for perceived police violence against African 336 00:21:43,950 --> 00:21:48,060 Americans. Due to the assessment classifying the group as a 337 00:21:48,060 --> 00:21:52,230 domestic terror organization The FBI is able to justify any 338 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:54,960 invasive surveillance tactics used in monitoring these 339 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,160 targeted individuals 340 00:21:56,850 --> 00:22:05,730 wow wow Hold on a second black black I didn t I gotta now I 341 00:22:05,730 --> 00:22:11,730 gotta find this black identity extremists and it was a terror 342 00:22:11,790 --> 00:22:17,490 group classification well that thing is useless then if you can 343 00:22:17,490 --> 00:22:19,470 just name it and then say 344 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,670 and then these groups overlap Oh 345 00:22:23,670 --> 00:22:28,710 my god. Here it is here it is. Big Notorious BIG was a 346 00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:34,230 designation Nuba home on second I thought it had terror I 347 00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:35,520 thought I saw this somewhere 348 00:22:40,890 --> 00:22:44,280 I don't see an official I wonder who has to name something 349 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:50,100 official for it to be an official terrorist group. Know 350 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:50,580 what I'm not I'm 351 00:22:50,580 --> 00:22:55,140 not sure. I mean, it's on the FBIs list saw me it's not a bar 352 00:22:55,140 --> 00:23:01,230 jump. To get to get me the rights to investigate or to 353 00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:04,650 circumvent people's, their people's given rights to 354 00:23:04,650 --> 00:23:07,650 investigate them. But I just want to point out one other 355 00:23:07,650 --> 00:23:10,920 thing. The mind control music and it's 356 00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:15,060 no, it's good. That's vice man. They're very they're really good 357 00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:19,800 at that. It gives you a whole documentary feel to it and just 358 00:23:20,220 --> 00:23:23,460 pushing you through you can't even question what's what's 359 00:23:23,460 --> 00:23:24,630 being told it's good. 360 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:31,680 Well, when this term popped up on people's timelines, and when 361 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,880 this leaked document started to get legs, there was only one 362 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:41,040 comparison to bring up and we brought it up in show 15 And 363 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,850 this is a throwback clip from their secret COINTELPRO. 364 00:23:44,939 --> 00:23:47,999 We know the government watches us but what about when 365 00:23:47,999 --> 00:23:51,689 government surveillance changes the course of history. In the 366 00:23:51,689 --> 00:23:56,489 1960s, the US government started a program called COINTELPRO or 367 00:23:56,489 --> 00:23:59,339 the counter intelligence program. The program was a 368 00:23:59,339 --> 00:24:03,389 series of secret FBI initiatives targeting activist political and 369 00:24:03,389 --> 00:24:06,929 minority groups. The American Indian movement, the Black 370 00:24:06,929 --> 00:24:11,039 Panthers, Martin Luther King, women's and civil rights groups, 371 00:24:11,069 --> 00:24:14,609 Vietnam War protesters, and anyone who got the government 372 00:24:14,609 --> 00:24:19,229 seeing red tactics used included infiltration and surveying and 373 00:24:19,229 --> 00:24:22,799 discrediting leaders and causes in order to undermine entire 374 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:27,239 movements and organizations. But a lot of what COINTELPRO did was 375 00:24:27,239 --> 00:24:31,529 illegal, and it was officially disbanded in 1971. Though if you 376 00:24:31,529 --> 00:24:34,829 ask me any activist groups and political dissidents, it still 377 00:24:34,829 --> 00:24:37,319 exists. Just him another form. 378 00:24:38,370 --> 00:24:43,260 Oh, well, yeah, of course. It's just like, yes, Operation 379 00:24:43,260 --> 00:24:46,110 Mockingbird also ended apparently. 380 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,950 Yes. The MK Ultra ended. Yeah, it all ended. Oh, yeah, sure if 381 00:24:49,950 --> 00:24:50,040 we 382 00:24:50,639 --> 00:24:53,489 continued under a different name, but those those programs 383 00:24:53,489 --> 00:24:56,099 ended. Yeah, fair enough. Well, 384 00:24:56,430 --> 00:24:59,970 this is nothing new. And I'll just show in the last clip. 385 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,990 These kinds of things have been going on and one of the will any 386 00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:09,450 black group that pushes anything other than non violence is 387 00:25:09,450 --> 00:25:13,740 labeled as radically the word. The previous term was radical 388 00:25:14,130 --> 00:25:18,360 militant. Yeah. You know, these were the terms that were 389 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:22,620 labeled. Now we have extremist. One of those people that were 390 00:25:22,620 --> 00:25:27,780 labeled as an extremist was Malcolm X. Of course, 391 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:38,340 a black man is supposed to have no black man strength is an 392 00:25:38,340 --> 00:25:42,150 extreme. He's supposed to sit passively and have no feelings 393 00:25:42,150 --> 00:25:45,360 be non violent, and love his enemy, no matter what kind of 394 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:49,650 attack is verbal or otherwise, he's Ebola taken by the fans up 395 00:25:49,650 --> 00:25:54,840 and in any way tries to defend himself. And he's an extremist. 396 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,570 Know I think Fisher who preceded me is getting exactly what he 397 00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:18,330 asked for. Main reason for believing in 398 00:26:18,330 --> 00:26:22,860 extremists. Wow, that was that was another scary clip. 399 00:26:23,550 --> 00:26:29,850 Well, I want to say this, those Funkmaster Flex bombs, not an 400 00:26:29,850 --> 00:26:33,480 original clip. These were this is the only place I could find 401 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,880 his speech and whoever posted it put these explosive bombs in the 402 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,930 background. Every time he made an excellent point is a bit 403 00:26:42,930 --> 00:26:45,330 distracting. But I mean, you have to use the source material 404 00:26:45,330 --> 00:26:46,110 that you're given 405 00:26:46,140 --> 00:26:49,560 right now. And I get the point. In fact, I'd like to make 406 00:26:49,620 --> 00:26:55,440 another point. We are dealing here with a BPE. blocked with 407 00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:59,850 black podcasting extremists. Right there. Mo I see you, 408 00:27:00,719 --> 00:27:05,399 ama. You wonder where this Okay, I gotta be honest, you wonder 409 00:27:05,399 --> 00:27:09,269 where this topic came from. And this is Nichelle the kick and 410 00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:12,899 connectivity between the shows. I ended the last show off with 411 00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:18,179 the school of fish analogy. Yes. And part of that school of fish 412 00:27:18,209 --> 00:27:24,119 analogy is one, the fish can't be too close together, or too 413 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,859 far apart. Now, with that analogy, this is the reason why, 414 00:27:29,069 --> 00:27:32,999 if we're if we're going to be successful at creating change, 415 00:27:33,629 --> 00:27:37,439 we can't be too close together because they always can create 416 00:27:37,919 --> 00:27:41,339 these terms. They have sound infiltrators, as we've seen 417 00:27:41,339 --> 00:27:46,259 throughout history, and to divide they to divide and 418 00:27:46,259 --> 00:27:50,819 destroy and discredit. And yeah, whatever term you well the term 419 00:27:50,819 --> 00:27:55,439 you want to use. So that is, that is how we got from last 420 00:27:55,439 --> 00:27:56,459 show to this show. 421 00:27:57,900 --> 00:27:58,770 Okay, got it. 422 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:05,460 And to be fair, Malcolm X. That's right. He's not usable in 423 00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:09,390 the same way Martin Luther King is usable, because King was 424 00:28:09,390 --> 00:28:13,860 about non violence and loving each other, which we should love 425 00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:17,430 each other. But as soon as you as Malcolm pointed out in the 426 00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:20,010 previous clip, as soon as you start talking about protecting 427 00:28:20,010 --> 00:28:24,420 yourself, and this is not only so called blacks, quote unquote, 428 00:28:24,420 --> 00:28:27,720 blacks, this is any group as soon as you start talking about 429 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,200 defending yourself, then you're our problem. 430 00:28:31,229 --> 00:28:40,469 Although if black people go with white people to the state 431 00:28:40,499 --> 00:28:44,759 capitol with guns, it's all white extremists just so you 432 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:50,069 know. I saw some black faces there but it was all white 433 00:28:50,069 --> 00:28:50,849 extremist 434 00:28:51,390 --> 00:28:54,750 and you saw a lot and that's really really railed that whole 435 00:28:54,930 --> 00:28:58,830 anti gun because it's like we don't have a clean we don't have 436 00:28:58,830 --> 00:29:02,700 a clean camera shot without having a black person Hey, move 437 00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,670 that guy over to the left a little bit yeah, I can get my 438 00:29:05,670 --> 00:29:06,720 shot so right. 439 00:29:07,890 --> 00:29:11,580 And then you if you do that, then you start bringing these 440 00:29:11,580 --> 00:29:14,160 people that have similar ideologies together. 441 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,150 Bad idea can't have getting together and having thoughts. 442 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,090 That's why this podcast is so dangerous. 443 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,100 Notorious BPE mo facts 444 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,080 so um, let's continue listen to listen to Malcolm X a little bit 445 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:31,470 more 446 00:29:31,890 --> 00:29:37,470 intelligently directed extremism, extremism in defense 447 00:29:37,470 --> 00:29:42,450 of liberal extremism in question just because I firmly believe in 448 00:29:42,450 --> 00:29:48,660 my heart that the day that the Glassman uncompromising and 449 00:29:48,660 --> 00:29:52,920 realizes that he's within his rights when his own freedom is 450 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,930 being jeopardized, to use any means necessary to bring about 451 00:29:57,930 --> 00:30:00,990 his freedom or put a halt to that injustice. As I don't think 452 00:30:00,990 --> 00:30:04,110 you'll be by himself, I live in America where there are only 22 453 00:30:04,110 --> 00:30:07,950 million blacks against probably 160 million white. One of the 454 00:30:07,950 --> 00:30:11,700 reasons that I'm in no way reluctant or hesitant to do 455 00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:15,150 whatever is necessary to see that black people do something 456 00:30:15,150 --> 00:30:18,420 to protect themselves. I honestly believe that the thing 457 00:30:18,420 --> 00:30:22,350 that they do, many whites will have more respect for them. And 458 00:30:22,350 --> 00:30:25,470 then there'll be more whites on their sides and are now on the 459 00:30:25,470 --> 00:30:29,280 side with these little wishy washy Luddites love diathermy 460 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:35,520 approach that they've been using up to now. And if I'm wrong, 461 00:30:35,970 --> 00:30:36,780 then you were raised. 462 00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:45,330 Man, he would have been great as a podcaster. I'm not kidding, I 463 00:30:45,330 --> 00:30:50,250 can voice forever, I can listen forever. It is such a great 464 00:30:50,250 --> 00:30:54,420 cadence. It's just a perfect tone to it would have been 465 00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:54,930 great. 466 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,340 And that's why I love doing this show with you. Because prior to 467 00:30:59,340 --> 00:31:04,710 you even hearing that clip, you pointed out Virginia. Yeah. And 468 00:31:04,740 --> 00:31:09,510 he followed up with that point that when black people start 469 00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:13,140 showing that we want to protect ourselves and exercise our 470 00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:17,070 rights given to us by the first and second amendment will 471 00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:19,980 actually garner more support. That's right. That's right. 472 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,710 That's right. And that's what that's the dangerous part is 473 00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:29,520 like no, no, no. Can't keep them separate. Separate it? Well, 474 00:31:30,030 --> 00:31:35,820 that was the little history on these kinds of things being been 475 00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:38,340 dumped been done all throughout history, we saw the same thing 476 00:31:38,340 --> 00:31:42,660 with Marcus Garvey. And how J. Edgar Hoover had it up for him. 477 00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:44,070 And he was for the self defense. 478 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,490 It's lighter. It's fascinating. It's fascinating how we all fall 479 00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:49,620 for the same Gambit every single time. 480 00:31:50,850 --> 00:31:55,650 Every single time. And it's like, when, when the media shows 481 00:31:55,650 --> 00:32:01,440 pictures of black men with guns in their hands. They can whip up 482 00:32:01,890 --> 00:32:02,550 fear. 483 00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:05,610 Yeah, I'll say they can 484 00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:10,530 whip up fear and man that in turns, you know, demonizes and 485 00:32:10,530 --> 00:32:16,470 makes the makes them extremists. Now this thing got, they did get 486 00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:19,800 attention from the government. And one of the people it did get 487 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,550 attention from and I gotta give her props, was representative 488 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:28,050 Karen Bass. And just a little background on Ms. Karen Bass. 489 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:32,970 She is She's a Democrat, and also a member of the Black 490 00:32:33,780 --> 00:32:37,470 national caucus, the Black Caucus. Yep, she represents 491 00:32:37,470 --> 00:32:45,450 Culver City, south south, south Los Angeles. And, um, one 492 00:32:45,450 --> 00:32:49,410 interesting thing I saw about her, she was the acting chair of 493 00:32:49,410 --> 00:32:53,730 the subcommittee on crime, terrorism and homeland security. 494 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,250 So I just found that interesting, but for for this 495 00:32:59,250 --> 00:33:08,520 show, she's gonna be the big bay. Okay, so if she actually 496 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:14,580 took God, she called, she called a, a form on highlighting our 497 00:33:14,580 --> 00:33:16,350 black identity stream on stream ism. 498 00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:22,710 I don't believe black identity extremists exists. And I believe 499 00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:27,180 that the FBI should retract the document, and should send out a 500 00:33:27,180 --> 00:33:29,940 document throughout law enforcement saying that black 501 00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:34,260 identity extremists do not exist. They kick they gave no 502 00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:38,940 information to us as to how they came up with that category. And 503 00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:41,760 to me, what they really need to be concerned about is white 504 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,550 identity extremists, but that seems mystified. 505 00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:50,640 Oh, there we go. It's working. It does. Because if you 506 00:33:50,850 --> 00:33:53,940 highlight one group than the other, that group is going to 507 00:33:53,940 --> 00:33:56,490 point out all the represent so called represented that group is 508 00:33:56,490 --> 00:33:58,680 going to point out what about the other side's coordinates? 509 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,770 Say, oh, yeah, you're right. Let's investigate everybody. 510 00:34:03,690 --> 00:34:07,590 Just called American extremists, identity extremists, whatever. 511 00:34:07,650 --> 00:34:09,210 It's horrible. Yes. 512 00:34:10,650 --> 00:34:14,280 And like I said, she did have this form. And um, she, I have 513 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,990 to give her credit, because she did bring attention to how this 514 00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:22,800 thing was just thrown together, rolled out to law enforcement, 515 00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:26,520 and it was like, What are we supposed to do? Who are we 516 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,000 looking for? I mean, usually when you have you're doing some 517 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,700 kind of investigation in you know, like, What's the motive 518 00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:35,400 was the who are the perps? You know, that kind of thing. It's 519 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,300 like now it's just a group. At that time they say anything 520 00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:44,610 extreme. Now we have the right to him when we got him. Yeah, we 521 00:34:44,610 --> 00:34:49,980 got one. That's a that's a very dangerous premise. And the way 522 00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:54,630 this works is, in my mind, a lot of these groups overlap. You 523 00:34:54,630 --> 00:34:59,100 have members that are members of two or more groups. So once you 524 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,730 start connecting in that chain to well, they're in 525 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,440 organization, ABC. And also, you know, you could spider 526 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,120 women back spider web it and show this so called huge 527 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,210 organization which may have some actual interlinking connections. 528 00:35:15,210 --> 00:35:19,560 But again, the original premise is just what's what's, what's 529 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,770 extremism, and what's identity in this case. 530 00:35:23,579 --> 00:35:28,169 Right, it made us clearly identified those two terms for 531 00:35:28,169 --> 00:35:32,249 you. But let's go back to some more highlights from the form. 532 00:35:32,579 --> 00:35:35,459 The point of the document is that it's saying that black 533 00:35:35,459 --> 00:35:38,579 identity extremists are organized to kill law 534 00:35:38,579 --> 00:35:42,449 enforcement officers. My concern about it is, especially since it 535 00:35:42,449 --> 00:35:45,299 was distributed to law enforcement around the country, 536 00:35:45,479 --> 00:35:50,009 is that I consider the declaration of open season on 537 00:35:50,009 --> 00:35:53,459 young black activists that I have a particular concern about, 538 00:35:53,669 --> 00:35:56,279 especially people who were involved in the Black Lives 539 00:35:56,279 --> 00:36:00,389 Matter movement, or any movement that's trying to hold police 540 00:36:00,389 --> 00:36:04,679 accountable. That reminded me of my days here in Los Angeles, as 541 00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:08,909 a young activist, protesting the LAPD and the level of repression 542 00:36:08,909 --> 00:36:11,879 that we went through, there was nobody we could talk to during 543 00:36:11,879 --> 00:36:16,439 those years. And so I feel a very personal responsibility to 544 00:36:16,469 --> 00:36:20,039 make sure that that document is retracted. 545 00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:23,220 Not. So let me just understand a few things. First of all, do you 546 00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:26,370 know what the actual document is that's being referred to 547 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,580 continuously here is a leak 548 00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:34,140 if that leaked, the running theme in this whole 549 00:36:34,140 --> 00:36:37,110 administration and how the media has covered it? It's a leaked 550 00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:37,800 document. 551 00:36:37,950 --> 00:36:41,760 Okay. Have we actually ever seen the document that does not mean 552 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,510 the document 553 00:36:43,230 --> 00:36:48,960 or the document? Yeah. Well, I'll say this Opsahl copies, but 554 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,930 I couldn't validate that was the official document. I'll say 555 00:36:51,930 --> 00:36:55,050 that, because you've seen it posted online, but I'm not sure 556 00:36:55,050 --> 00:36:58,680 if that's, and I didn't want to report it, you know, right. As 557 00:36:59,970 --> 00:37:02,910 if I can't validate it. Right. Which How do you validate a 558 00:37:02,910 --> 00:37:08,880 leaked document? Is your document I'm going to refer to 559 00:37:08,910 --> 00:37:09,690 so and who 560 00:37:09,690 --> 00:37:13,560 was running the F. Now this is, this is before Trump was elected 561 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,510 when this was put into place, was it not? 562 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,840 No, it was 2017 when it came out. 563 00:37:19,710 --> 00:37:22,260 Okay, but they were referring back to things that happened. 564 00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:24,930 Well, no, no, the Dallas shooting was was under Trump. 565 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,630 No, that was under Obama, and Obama. And this is part of it. 566 00:37:30,660 --> 00:37:33,930 This is part of the story, because it's like, why did you 567 00:37:33,930 --> 00:37:37,320 think start cropping up right at the end of of Obama's 568 00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:42,810 administration going into the 2016 elections? So 569 00:37:42,810 --> 00:37:45,270 I don't know if you're, if you have this covered, was it James 570 00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:47,880 Comey still running the FBI? At that point? It must have been 571 00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:48,660 Yes. It had 572 00:37:48,660 --> 00:37:51,600 to be because he carried over, carry over. 573 00:37:52,890 --> 00:37:57,930 Wow, mommy's lap. Ah, this is something that is underreported. 574 00:37:58,589 --> 00:38:02,489 I'm sure it is even more reason why the left the more liberal 575 00:38:02,489 --> 00:38:05,759 side of media had no reason to. 576 00:38:06,359 --> 00:38:10,019 I mean, this is like stop and fix on steroids. 577 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:19,350 Yes, it is. Yes, it is. But let's let Karen Bass finish up. 578 00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:21,000 Well, with our form, 579 00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:25,770 the numbers suggest that 83% of the shots fire as incidents 580 00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:30,150 we've had since 2009, a right wing extremists. And so again, 581 00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:33,270 as we as I'm challenged to the report here, and trying to be 582 00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:35,970 fair, I'm just trying to understand where this data came 583 00:38:35,970 --> 00:38:37,350 from and how they put it together. Right, 584 00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:41,370 exactly. And they can't answer that. How could you distribute a 585 00:38:41,370 --> 00:38:44,160 document to law enforcement agencies around the country? 586 00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:47,610 Exactly. What is that category based on? When it comes to 587 00:38:47,610 --> 00:38:51,360 terrorism? It seems like it's only called terrorism if you're 588 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,090 a person of color, especially if you're Muslim. 589 00:38:57,420 --> 00:38:59,880 See, my love for her was short lived. 590 00:38:59,910 --> 00:39:02,130 Yeah. And it ended right there. 591 00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:09,000 When she broke my heart, doing so well. We're talking about BI 592 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:16,050 E. And as I always say, they use us to open the door. We'll have 593 00:39:16,050 --> 00:39:19,620 holding the door. And it's the classic example. Yeah. Well, the 594 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:23,550 conversation started around Bie. And now it pivots back to 595 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,020 Muslims. Yeah, well, I'll color a color people. 596 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,530 Hey, thanks. Thanks for holding the door open, 597 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,400 y'all. Oh, y'all welcome. Good work. 598 00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:39,450 That Well, good on Karen man, Karen Bass. 599 00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:44,460 I gotta give her props call that we have when good work. And so I 600 00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:48,330 have some clips from the actual form. That was the highlights. 601 00:39:48,660 --> 00:39:51,450 It was a four minute video highlighting you know, the 602 00:39:51,450 --> 00:39:54,510 things that were discussed in a form, but I have some clips from 603 00:39:54,510 --> 00:40:00,330 her talking to Mr. Jeff Sessions. And and this is a The 604 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,830 clip if bath bath if there's FBI report on black identity 605 00:40:04,830 --> 00:40:05,430 extremist. 606 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,880 Okay, so you're not you haven't necessarily read the report, but 607 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,640 you are familiar with the term black identity extremists? 608 00:40:12,570 --> 00:40:14,040 Well, I think so, yes. 609 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,920 So can you tell me what that term means to you? Do you 610 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,970 believe that there is a movement of African Americans that 611 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,570 identify themselves as black identity extremists? And what 612 00:40:24,570 --> 00:40:25,470 does that move into? 613 00:40:25,770 --> 00:40:29,220 Well, I'd be interesting to see the conclusions of that report. 614 00:40:29,460 --> 00:40:35,640 But I'm aware that there are groups that do have an 615 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,920 extraordinary commitment to their racial identity, and some 616 00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:44,610 have transformed themselves even into violent activist. 617 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,110 And that was sessions. Yes, sessions. Right. So sessions, 618 00:40:49,710 --> 00:40:55,380 Attorney General came in after Loretta Lynch when Trump the 619 00:40:55,380 --> 00:40:56,730 Trump administration started. 620 00:40:57,990 --> 00:41:01,530 Correct. Right. And in the way they framed this term is this is 621 00:41:01,530 --> 00:41:05,460 from Trump's FBI. Oh, he's like, no, please call me. 622 00:41:06,149 --> 00:41:09,929 Yeah, this is not Trump's FBI. Right. They shape 623 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,740 they shaped it very well to you know, exclude anybody that 624 00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:20,520 they're friendly to? Well. So let's just let her let's finish 625 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,020 out her talking with sessions. 626 00:41:22,290 --> 00:41:25,350 Could you name an African American organization that have 627 00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:27,990 committed violent acts against police officers? Could you name 628 00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:32,820 one today in this report? They name organizations from 3040 629 00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:36,000 years ago, but can you name a one today that has targeted 630 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:38,430 police officers in a violent manner? 631 00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:39,630 Wu Tang Clan? 632 00:41:40,890 --> 00:41:46,620 I believe I could, but I would want to be to confirm that and 633 00:41:46,620 --> 00:41:50,070 submit it to you in writing. But I believe we had within the last 634 00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:54,750 year or so for police officers killed by a group that some have 635 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,390 described as extremist, 636 00:41:57,420 --> 00:42:01,110 what has happened is, is that there have been a couple of 637 00:42:01,110 --> 00:42:04,440 instances in which African Americans did kill police 638 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,790 officers were not associated with a black organization. And 639 00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:12,270 so one, for example, in Baton Rouge was associated with 640 00:42:12,270 --> 00:42:15,270 sovereign citizens, which is primarily a white group. 641 00:42:19,410 --> 00:42:23,640 So you even heard Jeff Sessions say there are we had a couple of 642 00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:30,180 events and yeah, yeah, cut out these two events. They created a 643 00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:31,800 whole identity not 644 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,490 even he said that he only mentioned one didn't he like the 645 00:42:35,490 --> 00:42:35,910 foreign 646 00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:40,440 thing in Dallas and out that he was waiting for? I think he was 647 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,550 referring to Dallas. It was five. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And 648 00:42:44,850 --> 00:42:48,330 there were three and three in Baton Rouge. Maybe he just 649 00:42:48,330 --> 00:42:51,540 rounded he was like, okay, average of four. I don't know 650 00:42:51,540 --> 00:42:56,010 how you got to the fort number, but he couldn't even name a 651 00:42:56,010 --> 00:43:00,720 group. If you have a. If you have a real threat, you can say 652 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:05,850 okay, just to say instance, I'm a radical Islamic terrorism, you 653 00:43:05,850 --> 00:43:11,670 could say you have the Taliban and you have al Qaeda, you know, 654 00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:16,470 go down the list, right? Oh, but now he couldn't even give one 655 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:19,320 he's like a kid submitted in writing, which had me I had to 656 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,720 help them. I go look up one. And what 657 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:25,800 was this? Was this a congressional hearing? Yes. 658 00:43:25,830 --> 00:43:28,680 Okay. So he was probably caught off guard by this. 659 00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:32,520 Yeah, cuz he didn't even he didn't even know. I don't think 660 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,450 he's in the previous one. I didn't clip sounds like he 661 00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:41,490 didn't. He didn't know of the report. Okay. Okay. Which I find 662 00:43:41,490 --> 00:43:45,540 strange is well, but the optics is there you have Jeff Sessions, 663 00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:49,200 who's if you had to cast the racist in a movie, I'm just 664 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,930 saying I'm not saying he is racist or not is or isn't 665 00:43:51,930 --> 00:43:56,100 racist. What he picks that casting we always talk about 666 00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:59,490 show up. Oh, totally, totally. You have the southern accent, 667 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,980 older white man. And he's like, oh, yeah, you 668 00:44:02,850 --> 00:44:06,030 know, he has kind of the physique of a garden gnome. You 669 00:44:06,030 --> 00:44:08,340 know, all the things that you just like, he's like, Oh, I can 670 00:44:08,370 --> 00:44:10,380 I can hate that guy. That's easy to do. 671 00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:19,110 Yep. So here we are. And before we actually get into those 672 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,580 events that he alluded to, I want to give a little clip have 673 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,170 we not we've heard we saw the videos with Black Lives Matter. 674 00:44:28,410 --> 00:44:33,510 Colin cops, pigs and yes, was it baked bacon something let them 675 00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:35,130 fry? Oh, yeah. 676 00:44:35,580 --> 00:44:38,370 Here peek we saw let him fry. Yeah. 677 00:44:39,180 --> 00:44:44,040 I want to make one point before we play the next clip. One. I 678 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:49,050 think a lot of this racial identity. Protesting is a form 679 00:44:49,050 --> 00:44:51,240 of cosplay. That's my personal opinion. 680 00:44:52,049 --> 00:44:56,009 I see that. It's the same with Antifa. I find that that's also 681 00:44:56,009 --> 00:44:56,999 a lot of cosplay. 682 00:44:57,779 --> 00:45:01,649 So the what happens is you Have these organizations like Black 683 00:45:01,649 --> 00:45:04,109 Lives Matter, so I'm not letting them off the hook in any form of 684 00:45:04,109 --> 00:45:09,389 fashion because I know who they represent. They go out, they get 685 00:45:09,389 --> 00:45:13,709 people in the streets, and then they have their agitators come 686 00:45:13,709 --> 00:45:19,709 out while in the group, throw a rock, throw a bottle, whatever 687 00:45:19,709 --> 00:45:24,629 else and then it calls his group. herd mentality and 688 00:45:24,629 --> 00:45:28,349 dislike all hell breaks loose. Yeah. So I'm not taking a jump 689 00:45:28,529 --> 00:45:30,179 jump provocateur. 690 00:45:31,110 --> 00:45:38,790 Thank you, sir. But what I will say is, there was also very 691 00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:47,640 nasty and vicious language, specifically for Fox. But what 692 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,080 they will bring on these black law enforcement officers, and 693 00:45:52,110 --> 00:45:55,950 they will use some of the most well just get into the next 694 00:45:55,950 --> 00:45:56,310 clip, 695 00:45:56,850 --> 00:46:00,000 Sheriff, your reaction to some of the some of the sentiments 696 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,070 you heard on the streets on Saturday? 697 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:06,750 Well, it's just crazy talk. That's ignorance in its purest 698 00:46:06,750 --> 00:46:09,870 form. You know, I think we need to rethink the strategy. I don't 699 00:46:09,870 --> 00:46:14,580 know why the police even bother policing those demonstrations or 700 00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:18,660 not protest those people advocate for the overthrow of 701 00:46:18,660 --> 00:46:24,870 our legally constituted government. Let them fit, let 702 00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:28,050 them fend for themselves. But the good life law abiding people 703 00:46:28,050 --> 00:46:31,950 of New York, clashed with them for disrupting their lives, 704 00:46:31,950 --> 00:46:35,340 disrupting their businesses, then the police can show up and 705 00:46:35,340 --> 00:46:40,440 arrest the subhuman creeps for creating a disturbance that we 706 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,360 can do. Now which sheriff 707 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:47,820 was this? Best Sheriff Clark? Clark, who was black? Yes. Oh, 708 00:46:47,850 --> 00:46:53,040 and he's a butter biscuit. Bad carrying eater 709 00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:55,260 hat where you forgot hat where? Yeah, 710 00:46:55,530 --> 00:47:00,840 where he is. And the reason why I say that is to come. When you 711 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,720 talk about groups, you have to use nuance. And I tried to do 712 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:08,370 that, to show not to print with a wide brush. Any group? Because 713 00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:13,230 as I explained before, you have a lot of good people on both 714 00:47:13,230 --> 00:47:13,830 sides. Yes, 715 00:47:13,830 --> 00:47:17,160 fine. People. I think the term is fine. Give me five people, 716 00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:17,850 five people 717 00:47:17,850 --> 00:47:20,640 on both sides. Yeah, because a lot of people are frustrated, 718 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,500 and they just won't go out in the street and let out their 719 00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:25,830 frustrations. And it may be cosplay, but it's it's 720 00:47:25,830 --> 00:47:29,520 therapeutic. Those people are not violent. They just want to 721 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,520 have the feel like they have impact. They have an impact on 722 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,060 something. So they go out with their signs. And a lot of I will 723 00:47:36,060 --> 00:47:39,930 say 90% of the people out there are just want to exercise their 724 00:47:39,930 --> 00:47:43,260 First Amendment Amendment rights. But for a guy like this 725 00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:47,190 to call them subhuman. And then later on call them garbage. 726 00:47:47,220 --> 00:47:50,520 Yeah. Well, he said all I mean, he was talking about all of 727 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:56,130 them, not just the he didn't, you know, specifically say the 728 00:47:56,130 --> 00:47:58,350 agitators or the violent people or those 729 00:47:58,470 --> 00:48:02,100 allow me to give you a perspective from from, from my 730 00:48:02,310 --> 00:48:06,900 point of view. Okay. Until we started this show, I would have 731 00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:11,220 always thought of Sheriff David Clarke as a man, there's a cool 732 00:48:11,220 --> 00:48:14,850 guy, you know, he's not taking any crap. He, he seems pretty 733 00:48:14,850 --> 00:48:19,800 down to earth. But the more I start to learn, and as you said 734 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:26,910 the butter biscuits. He's taking license, he's actually abusing 735 00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:32,730 his own skin color, to give himself license to use these 736 00:48:32,730 --> 00:48:37,470 terms, which I find by itself offensive. 737 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,530 And what was even more rubs me the wrong way is if he was 738 00:48:43,530 --> 00:48:47,010 talking about the Bundy Ranch, or the standoff, you know, with 739 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,440 white right wing groups. He wouldn't use the term subhuman. 740 00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:56,160 I mean, that in itself has connotations of subhuman human 741 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,260 beings into the Tentler. Will not zactly goes back to that. 742 00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:05,490 I'm glad you said that. So when you use that term, it's like 743 00:49:06,030 --> 00:49:11,070 you. You borderline on premise yourself. 744 00:49:11,549 --> 00:49:14,429 Sound you just made set it all right. 745 00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:20,159 Yeah, it irks me because we can I come here and I point out 746 00:49:20,339 --> 00:49:24,539 flaws on both sides. We can do that. But don't don't don't 747 00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:29,129 denigrate people, especially people that are trying to just 748 00:49:29,309 --> 00:49:33,959 watch the first, first right first amendment rights. Alright, 749 00:49:33,959 --> 00:49:34,559 so 750 00:49:34,770 --> 00:49:39,090 now, one question based upon what he said. Do you think it's 751 00:49:39,090 --> 00:49:43,200 possible he was referring purely to the Zhaan provocateurs who 752 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,980 show up within the group and calling them out as subhuman or 753 00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:49,530 did you really come across to you as he's calling the whole 754 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,850 everybody subhuman? 755 00:49:50,940 --> 00:49:55,590 To be fair because I said a lot about him. Can we listen to the 756 00:49:55,590 --> 00:49:58,890 last maybe 20 seconds of that clip so we can hear exactly how 757 00:49:58,890 --> 00:49:59,550 he framed that? 758 00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:01,410 Yeah, let's Let's do that because I thought he gave 759 00:50:01,410 --> 00:50:05,130 himself some leeway possibly hold on. Let me 760 00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:09,510 let them fit, let them fend for themselves. But the good life 761 00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:13,680 law abiding people of New York, clashed with them for disrupting 762 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,650 their lives, disrupting their businesses, then the police can 763 00:50:16,650 --> 00:50:21,360 show up and arrest the sub human creeps for creating a 764 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,280 disturbance that we can do. 765 00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:25,500 Go back just a little bit further home. 766 00:50:26,670 --> 00:50:29,700 Well, it's just crazy talk. That's ignorance in its purest 767 00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:32,820 form. You know, I think we need to rethink the strategy. I don't 768 00:50:32,820 --> 00:50:37,440 know why the police even bother policing those demonstrations 769 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,610 are not protest those people advocate for the overthrow of 770 00:50:41,610 --> 00:50:43,290 are legally constituted. 771 00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:46,020 Okay, so he's grouping them all together there. All right. 772 00:50:46,860 --> 00:50:48,780 That's pretty clear. Pretty clear. 773 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,170 I'm glad we did that. Just to be clear, and that's how I took it. 774 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,410 But I was wanting to make sure that I wasn't a 775 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,620 no, no, you got it. You got it. 776 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,610 Alright, so now we have to set the stage is set. Oh, we're 777 00:51:05,610 --> 00:51:11,070 trying to figure out how we got to be ice. We've heard kind of 778 00:51:11,070 --> 00:51:14,430 the tone on the right hand side. We clearly know what the tone on 779 00:51:14,430 --> 00:51:20,100 the on the pro Black Lives Matter pro anti police side is 780 00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:25,080 because it was highly spread out in in August 781 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,090 and reported and discussed. 782 00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:32,070 Correct. So let's just get into what happened in Dallas. 783 00:51:32,370 --> 00:51:36,000 We begin with breaking news in Dallas, Texas, where at least 784 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,120 five police officers were killed when they were ambushed by at 785 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,870 least two snipers. The shooting began near the end of a protest 786 00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:46,080 over the fatal police shootings of black men in Louisiana and 787 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,980 Minnesota. Six other officers and a civilian were injured. 788 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,820 Police are questioning at least three alleged suspects and 789 00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:57,330 Manuel Bohorquez is in downtown Dallas, when well what is the 790 00:51:57,330 --> 00:51:57,930 latest? 791 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,040 Well, Anne Marie some breaking news. Now we're learning that 792 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,760 the fourth suspect a man who was holed up inside a parking garage 793 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,440 not too far from where we are has now died of a self inflicted 794 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,220 gunshot wound. He had apparently been exchanging gunfire with 795 00:52:14,220 --> 00:52:17,820 officers but we're learning that he has now died from a self 796 00:52:17,820 --> 00:52:22,140 inflicted gunshot wound. As you mentioned, the gunfire erupted 797 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,160 in downtown Dallas with no warning turning this place into 798 00:52:26,190 --> 00:52:29,370 a war zone and still very much resembling one right now. 799 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,060 Official saying the intent of the shooters was to kill as many 800 00:52:33,060 --> 00:52:34,410 officers as possible. 801 00:52:36,420 --> 00:52:39,330 Yeah, didn't go in wasn't like a robot that went around the 802 00:52:39,330 --> 00:52:40,230 corner and shot 803 00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:43,020 him or scary even carry easy. I'm 804 00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:46,320 sorry. Sorry, guys. Let me just put them on. Hold on a second. I 805 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:51,000 got them right here. Okay, 806 00:52:51,570 --> 00:52:55,590 let's stick with the news narrative as it's reported. So 807 00:52:55,590 --> 00:53:02,280 we have two shooters. Yeah. And the one of the shooters killed 808 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,090 himself with self inflicted gunshot wound. That's what we 809 00:53:06,090 --> 00:53:06,750 have. Right. That's 810 00:53:06,750 --> 00:53:07,890 what we got now. Yes. 811 00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:12,210 Okay, so let's get into the next clip. 812 00:53:17,220 --> 00:53:20,010 Police say this was a coordinated attack. 813 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,860 At least two snipers. From elevated positions as the 814 00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:32,520 protest rally March ended, began firing upon officers ambush 815 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:32,820 style. 816 00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:39,660 As the gunfire rang out, police use their patrol cars for cover 817 00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:41,880 as they moved in to help wounded officers. 818 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:48,720 We believe that the suspects were positioning themselves in a 819 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:52,380 way to triangulate on these officers from two different 820 00:53:52,380 --> 00:53:58,800 purchase in garages in the downtown area and planned to 821 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,280 injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they 822 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:02,580 could. 823 00:54:03,450 --> 00:54:08,880 I never really heard this part of the story. Maybe I came in 824 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,090 late or something and I only heard the resolutions of it 825 00:54:12,090 --> 00:54:14,070 interesting. This is July 826 00:54:14,070 --> 00:54:18,210 8 2016. And the shooting happened on July 7, so this is 827 00:54:18,210 --> 00:54:21,090 right off right after the shooting. Right. We have 828 00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:24,360 multiple shooters. triangulating which I don't know how you 829 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,400 triangulate with two shooters but 830 00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:29,730 and then it's 831 00:54:30,569 --> 00:54:35,969 a cool term to throw out there. But we have multiple shooters 832 00:54:35,969 --> 00:54:39,569 and we have one of the shooters killing themselves with this and 833 00:54:39,569 --> 00:54:42,989 this is from the shirt that was a sharp talking. That wasn't I'm 834 00:54:42,989 --> 00:54:45,209 not what me Excuse me. I think police chief police chief Yeah, 835 00:54:45,809 --> 00:54:50,369 but that yeah, that was that wasn't like some conspiracy 836 00:54:50,369 --> 00:54:50,669 theory 837 00:54:50,670 --> 00:54:54,750 website. Police Chief of Dallas who I think also is black. Yes, 838 00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:55,440 he is. Yeah. 839 00:54:57,180 --> 00:55:00,690 But yeah, we have multiple shooters one killer himself what 840 00:55:00,690 --> 00:55:05,070 if self inflicted gunshot wounds and that counters the narrative 841 00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:09,240 that you heard, which you may have heard in this next clip, 842 00:55:09,630 --> 00:55:12,690 and this morning we are getting new video and new eyewitness 843 00:55:12,690 --> 00:55:16,380 accounts of the fear as well as the heroism during the shooting 844 00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:18,900 in Dallas. We have team coverage this morning. And we do begin 845 00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:21,750 with ABC is Matt Gutman right there on the ground in downtown 846 00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:22,710 Dallas. Good morning, Matt. 847 00:55:24,450 --> 00:55:27,300 Good morning, Paul on that fear and heroism you mentioned was 848 00:55:27,420 --> 00:55:30,300 intensified by the fact that city officials thought they were 849 00:55:30,510 --> 00:55:34,080 under siege by an unknown number of gunmen that night now that 850 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,110 they know it was a lone gunman. Officials are focusing on 851 00:55:37,110 --> 00:55:40,290 investigating how he did this and patching Dallas back 852 00:55:40,290 --> 00:55:43,890 together. There's a sniper from up here somewhere. It's a sniper 853 00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:47,220 this morning as agents comb the streets for evidence. They're 854 00:55:47,220 --> 00:55:48,780 learning more about the gunman. 855 00:55:48,899 --> 00:55:52,739 There was confusion with everybody running around. But 856 00:55:52,769 --> 00:55:54,779 this was a mobile shooter 857 00:55:54,810 --> 00:55:59,220 who police che began blasting away shortly after this peaceful 858 00:55:59,220 --> 00:56:00,600 demonstration in Dallas 859 00:56:00,630 --> 00:56:04,290 on Thursday. Yeah, 860 00:56:05,580 --> 00:56:10,770 I do. Shooter Yeah, all I just crazy Mo i. I remember there was 861 00:56:10,770 --> 00:56:14,340 a lot of confusion, but I never heard the sheriff say so clearly 862 00:56:14,340 --> 00:56:17,760 multiple. I thought it was like one of those Fog of War maybe 863 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,420 the first 30 minutes or so they thought that but that was the 864 00:56:21,420 --> 00:56:24,870 day after and this is two days after. Then all of a sudden 865 00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:28,020 everyone everyone got their story straight. Okay, we go 866 00:56:28,020 --> 00:56:29,400 here's what it is boys. Yeah. 867 00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:33,630 It's one shooter or a loan and they use the term loan loan 868 00:56:34,020 --> 00:56:37,440 matter. Known shooter lone shooter. They say it was a saint 869 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,090 that is able to single shooter. It's the lone shooter. What 870 00:56:42,090 --> 00:56:44,400 about the other people that were questioning? They say they were 871 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,100 questioning three other suspects what what happened with that? 872 00:56:47,220 --> 00:56:50,190 And the reason why I'm saying this is I want you to put on 873 00:56:50,190 --> 00:56:55,530 your black conspiracy theory hat. And you hear like, because 874 00:56:55,530 --> 00:56:58,020 when these things happen, people follow them closely. I was 875 00:56:58,020 --> 00:57:00,810 multiple shooters I was going on and then you come back and just 876 00:57:00,810 --> 00:57:05,820 change the whole narrative. That was a long shoot lower shooter a 877 00:57:05,820 --> 00:57:10,830 year. Yeah. That's smack of J. Edgar Hoover that mean that 878 00:57:10,830 --> 00:57:17,190 Jake, who excuse me, I'm James Earl Ray that smacks of the JFK 879 00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:20,490 assassination. You know, it's like it always goes back to this 880 00:57:20,490 --> 00:57:21,030 one is, 881 00:57:21,780 --> 00:57:24,270 especially the connotation of Dallas. Yeah. 882 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,230 I imagine that that was missed on me. Thank you for pointing 883 00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:33,480 that out. So we have a now we're down to one shooter. No 884 00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:40,530 mentioned that the three suspects and the curious 885 00:57:40,530 --> 00:57:42,090 question of how he was killed. 886 00:57:42,510 --> 00:57:46,200 Dallas PD shutting down the airspace over town thinking this 887 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,420 was an ambush with multiple shooters. 888 00:57:49,110 --> 00:57:50,310 Somebody is really armed 889 00:57:50,310 --> 00:57:53,790 to the team as there's not one person, but it was one shooter, 890 00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:55,740 Micah Xavier Johnson. 891 00:57:56,010 --> 00:58:01,470 Mr. Johnson had written manifestos on how to shoot move. 892 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,980 You see him in this video advancing with deadly efficiency 893 00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:10,410 on this officer firing the officer gun down the toll 14th 894 00:58:10,410 --> 00:58:15,300 Shot 12 of them officers. Five of the officers died towards 895 00:58:15,300 --> 00:58:18,450 midnight SWAT teams finally corner Johnson on the second 896 00:58:18,450 --> 00:58:20,490 floor of El Centro College 897 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,670 suspect's data he wants to kill white people, especially white 898 00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:24,330 officers, 899 00:58:24,420 --> 00:58:28,020 negotiations break down then police use an explosive mounted 900 00:58:28,020 --> 00:58:31,950 on a robot similar to this one to kill Johnson for the first 901 00:58:31,950 --> 00:58:33,060 time in history. 902 00:58:33,210 --> 00:58:37,080 I remember that that was that's the part that I focused on when 903 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,810 I heard that I'm like oh and by the way weren't the two of the 904 00:58:42,810 --> 00:58:44,580 five cops killed more than a black? 905 00:58:47,130 --> 00:58:50,970 I'm not sure. I think you're just going by memory. I'm just 906 00:58:50,970 --> 00:58:54,690 going by man. That was in I think the black cops were killed 907 00:58:54,690 --> 00:59:01,320 in Baton Rouge but maybe I'm not for sure. But I want to that 908 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,560 last clip. I want to pick it apart piece by piece. Okay, 909 00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:13,710 first of all, you have a shooter he hit 14 People 12 of them 910 00:59:13,710 --> 00:59:19,740 being cops. That means he had to be a crack shot all those people 911 00:59:19,740 --> 00:59:23,790 running around and that all that melee and chaos and you can hit 912 00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:31,980 let's just proceed to the man's name is Micah Xavier Johnson 913 00:59:31,980 --> 00:59:35,850 right? Yeah. If you shorten that up you got mica X. 914 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,350 Nice. That's like current code. 915 00:59:44,310 --> 00:59:46,410 Now I'm just saying well, that's what registered with me because 916 00:59:46,410 --> 00:59:49,380 when you hide when you abbreviate the middle name, 917 00:59:49,410 --> 00:59:50,970 Micah X. Yeah, 918 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,290 you got my eggs. Wait, that's great. It leaves it to himself. 919 00:59:55,590 --> 00:59:59,490 And then you have this. One day ago you said he killed himself 920 00:59:59,490 --> 01:00:03,090 was self inflicted gunshot wound. How'd you get that wrong? 921 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,280 I don't understand how that one piece? 922 01:00:05,790 --> 01:00:09,750 Well, I mean, I'm not surprised that the media gets it wrong. 923 01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:12,420 The question is, where did they get the report from? Was it from 924 01:00:12,420 --> 01:00:14,220 the from the official police 925 01:00:15,570 --> 01:00:19,140 and previous clips, they had the briefing of the police officer. 926 01:00:19,860 --> 01:00:22,950 So it's like, you can ask them the question. How did he How did 927 01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:23,520 he die? 928 01:00:23,550 --> 01:00:25,140 Smells cover up. 929 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:31,350 They use one pound a C four on a robot. Oh, yeah. A pound to blow 930 01:00:31,350 --> 01:00:32,280 this manned up 931 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,820 upon. Make sure he wasn't recognizable. That's for sure. 932 01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:36,660 As 933 01:00:36,660 --> 01:00:41,880 Jay strain is hella strange. He's like, you see for first 934 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:48,300 time in history. Yeah. They said on a robot. After the 935 01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:51,540 communication break, you haven't corner because I mean, they 936 01:00:51,540 --> 01:00:56,970 hadn't cornered. I mean, he couldn't get out. After an hour, 937 01:00:56,970 --> 01:01:02,040 you just say okay, um, yeah, sending the robot. What? Yeah, 938 01:01:02,490 --> 01:01:03,810 that doesn't make any sense. 939 01:01:03,930 --> 01:01:07,260 And I don't I don't I have never heard of the robot being used 940 01:01:07,260 --> 01:01:09,240 since actually, you I 941 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:15,120 have not either. We've had many standoffs with shooters. Effort 942 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,350 per day. I mean, we had some that lasts for days, even. And 943 01:01:19,350 --> 01:01:24,450 they don't send the robot in. But as this case starts to 944 01:01:24,750 --> 01:01:29,100 unravel, we get even more details about the gunman. 945 01:01:29,460 --> 01:01:32,190 freelance reporter Steve Futterman is in Dallas, and he 946 01:01:32,190 --> 01:01:35,460 joins me now live. So Steve, what do we know about the 947 01:01:35,460 --> 01:01:36,900 suspects that was killed? 948 01:01:37,470 --> 01:01:41,580 Well, his name is Micah Johnson 25 years old from the Dallas 949 01:01:41,580 --> 01:01:45,420 area. In fact, he celebrated his 25th birthday this past weekend. 950 01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:48,600 We have now learned a bit more about him. He was in the army 951 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,540 for a number of years, apparently spent some time 952 01:01:51,660 --> 01:01:55,650 either in Afghanistan or Iraq. But the very interesting thing 953 01:01:55,650 --> 01:01:58,170 we've learned in the past hour from from law enforcement 954 01:01:58,170 --> 01:02:02,520 sources is what he was armed with. He had an assault rifle, a 955 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,390 semi automatic assault rifle. He had a handgun, and apparently 956 01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:10,230 was dressed in body armor, which makes everyone believed he knew 957 01:02:10,230 --> 01:02:13,110 exactly what he was going to do when he came to the protests 958 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,010 last night. 959 01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:18,750 Yeah, it's kind of distressing to hear all this again. 960 01:02:19,620 --> 01:02:25,050 So for the listeners out there, I told you remember that 961 01:02:25,050 --> 01:02:32,280 Military Connection Yes. Now we have the our think rockin was 962 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,090 the other guy's name the FBI. He was it was rain. Yeah, they put 963 01:02:36,090 --> 01:02:39,150 it out there all he's military, former military for military. 964 01:02:39,630 --> 01:02:43,980 Now we have mica X Johnson, former military. 965 01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:48,060 You know, again, if we were in the meeting, you'd be like, Hey, 966 01:02:48,060 --> 01:02:50,880 man, let's come up with a cool name for this cat. Alright, so 967 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,610 I'm like Malcolm X. Alright, Mike X. Yeah, but we got to make 968 01:02:53,610 --> 01:02:56,100 sure everyone always really black Johnson. All right. That's 969 01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:57,900 it, man. Perfect. We're good to go. 970 01:03:00,450 --> 01:03:04,620 It writes itself. It does. It really does. So it's like okay, 971 01:03:04,620 --> 01:03:07,260 now we have this guy. He's moving around body armor, 972 01:03:07,260 --> 01:03:13,110 assault rifle, two pistols. He's making these difficult shots. 973 01:03:13,110 --> 01:03:17,520 Cops are taking triangulation, the triangulation. Oh, and one 974 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,820 thing I meant, Miss that the cop said in a previous clip his 975 01:03:20,820 --> 01:03:23,340 manifesto. I mean, after all, 976 01:03:24,420 --> 01:03:26,850 did he ever did he ever publish one? Did he republish a 977 01:03:26,850 --> 01:03:27,690 manifesto? 978 01:03:28,260 --> 01:03:31,950 Well, his manifesto was more of his tactical how he was going to 979 01:03:31,950 --> 01:03:35,640 do it. But they just relabeled it as a manifesto said, 980 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,820 Well, of course that's what you do. That's what you do. It's 981 01:03:38,820 --> 01:03:39,060 just 982 01:03:39,090 --> 01:03:43,410 all too convenient. And like, I'm thinking, and this is 2017. 983 01:03:43,410 --> 01:03:46,680 So I'm saying this thing with the in a mind. And it's like, 984 01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:51,450 hey, what, what is going on here? Like, who is this guy? 985 01:03:52,020 --> 01:03:55,350 His manifesto was a very angry rant against white people. 986 01:03:56,130 --> 01:04:02,010 That's it. So we have and there was one drop by that last 987 01:04:02,010 --> 01:04:07,110 supporter or may last reporter. He didn't use the term mica X 988 01:04:07,110 --> 01:04:11,160 Johnson. Michael, we get on cold. You know, if you don't 989 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,370 call it a Philly, you have to put the X in there. 990 01:04:14,430 --> 01:04:18,600 Otherwise, people might think you're not a part of it. Right. 991 01:04:18,930 --> 01:04:20,580 Which could be true for that guy. 992 01:04:21,780 --> 01:04:27,000 Yeah, if I can say that. Well, we all we know. All the shooters 993 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,730 always get 3d printed, which I don't know who came up with that 994 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:35,790 anyway, but always named his race fit perfectly. Yeah. And so 995 01:04:35,790 --> 01:04:39,390 now we have a shooter that's blown up with one pound of sea 996 01:04:39,390 --> 01:04:44,370 for at the hour standoff. Yes. And he's former military. Yep. 997 01:04:44,490 --> 01:04:46,650 And now he 998 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,680 got to connect and we got to connect a mo. Well, let's 999 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,030 go and connect him to an atom. 1000 01:04:51,450 --> 01:04:53,940 We're getting a closer look at his motive and what 1001 01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:58,710 investigators found inside his home. Authorities say this is 1002 01:04:58,710 --> 01:05:03,390 the deadly sniper Micah Xavier Johnson, a former military man 1003 01:05:03,390 --> 01:05:06,930 who went hunting for police, specifically white officers, 1004 01:05:08,429 --> 01:05:12,599 there appears to have been one gunman, with no known links to 1005 01:05:12,599 --> 01:05:16,499 or inspiration from any international terrorist 1006 01:05:16,709 --> 01:05:17,519 organization. 1007 01:05:17,550 --> 01:05:21,450 Law enforcement sources tell ABC News Johnson was armed for his 1008 01:05:21,450 --> 01:05:24,510 shooting spree with an assault rifle and two handguns 1009 01:05:25,620 --> 01:05:31,560 been a tale of cowardice. By and assess Johnson served 1010 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:36,270 in the Army Reserve from 2009 until 2015. Doing a tour in 1011 01:05:36,270 --> 01:05:39,270 Afghanistan. According to police, his Facebook page 1012 01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:43,320 reveals some of that rage against police. He liked a page 1013 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,260 which said, quote, kill everything blue that moves 1014 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,530 overnight police search Johnson is home in Mesquite, Texas 1015 01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:52,350 police say they found bomb making materials ballistic 1016 01:05:52,350 --> 01:05:56,250 vests, rifles, ammunition and a personal journal of combat 1017 01:05:56,250 --> 01:05:56,850 tactics was 1018 01:05:56,850 --> 01:06:03,510 a well planned, well thought out. Evil tragedy, 1019 01:06:03,810 --> 01:06:07,290 Michael Johnson sister took to Facebook writing quote, the news 1020 01:06:07,290 --> 01:06:10,890 will say what they think but those who knew him know this 1021 01:06:10,890 --> 01:06:11,850 wasn't like him. 1022 01:06:12,930 --> 01:06:16,650 They see the manifesto was now turned into a notebook. Yeah, 1023 01:06:16,830 --> 01:06:20,520 that's interesting. They've screwed up on that report. 1024 01:06:20,790 --> 01:06:24,180 And that's the connectivity that we're talking about. So now you 1025 01:06:24,180 --> 01:06:28,170 have this guy that went and done this violent act independently 1026 01:06:28,170 --> 01:06:32,400 if you want to believe the the media narrative, but the fact 1027 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,400 that he likes somebody on Facebook, yeah. Oh, that just 1028 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,760 proves it. Let's start let's start digging into who he likes 1029 01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:43,830 on social media. And that's now we can brute roll out this term. 1030 01:06:44,580 --> 01:06:50,250 Bi E. And by guilty by association. Those people are 1031 01:06:50,430 --> 01:06:54,480 put on a list. Yes, you see, you see and then 1032 01:06:55,350 --> 01:06:59,190 who they follow become Bie Yes, of course. That's how it works. 1033 01:06:59,190 --> 01:07:02,190 Yeah. Well, especially for the FBI who clearly creating work 1034 01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:04,140 for themselves. Hmm. 1035 01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:08,880 And like I said, as long as you have the and we saw this with 1036 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,510 the war on drugs, and everything is just like you need just you 1037 01:07:12,510 --> 01:07:14,880 need bodies to put in front of the camera. They say you're 1038 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:19,350 doing your job and nothing really gets fixed. But we've 1039 01:07:19,350 --> 01:07:24,000 seen We've seen this all before. But there was one interesting 1040 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:33,270 fact that it was not reported as much as you think it would. But 1041 01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:35,040 the shooter left behind a message. 1042 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:40,320 Thanks that this killer obviously had some delusion. 1043 01:07:40,830 --> 01:07:44,760 There was quite a bit of rambling in the journal. That's 1044 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,480 hard to decipher. I can just add at the scene where he was 1045 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,900 killed. There was a pause he wrote some lettering and blood 1046 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:56,280 on the walls. Which leads us to believe he was wounded on the 1047 01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,480 way up the stairwell on the second floor of the El Centro 1048 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:05,520 building and where we detonated the device to end the standoff 1049 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:10,860 there there was more lettering written in his own blood. What 1050 01:08:10,860 --> 01:08:15,570 did he write we are we are trying to decipher that but he 1051 01:08:15,570 --> 01:08:20,460 wrote the letters are B are being in we don't RV Yes. So 1052 01:08:20,460 --> 01:08:24,450 we're trying to figure out through looking at things in his 1053 01:08:24,450 --> 01:08:30,450 home what those initials mean. But we haven't determined that 1054 01:08:30,450 --> 01:08:30,780 yet. 1055 01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:39,900 Yes, I remember that RB RB was that the only thing I thought 1056 01:08:39,900 --> 01:08:41,280 there was more that he had written? 1057 01:08:41,610 --> 01:08:44,580 No that was that was all that they reported that he read wrote 1058 01:08:44,580 --> 01:08:49,530 and blood and two separate places. RB. So I started doing 1059 01:08:49,530 --> 01:08:54,000 the digging like what what is rb mean? I can't know not know what 1060 01:08:54,000 --> 01:09:01,230 this means. So they had some theories. One of the less agreed 1061 01:09:01,230 --> 01:09:04,380 upon theories is he wrote RB for robot mom. 1062 01:09:04,860 --> 01:09:08,340 Yes. Yeah. Remember that one? Yep. Which is fair. 1063 01:09:08,370 --> 01:09:12,840 I mean, that's fair. But the most widely reported by USA 1064 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:21,660 Today heavy Daily Mail and other groups. It stood for our B, G, 1065 01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:24,510 now also known as red, black and green. 1066 01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:28,320 He just didn't he didn't finish the G because then he got blowed 1067 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:28,680 up. 1068 01:09:28,980 --> 01:09:33,210 And in two places. How do you make that stretch? It's like RB 1069 01:09:33,210 --> 01:09:35,220 or don't have time to write the G that you read somewhere else. 1070 01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:42,060 But these news agencies wrote Oh, yeah, it's the for our red, 1071 01:09:42,060 --> 01:09:46,560 black, black and green, which is the Pan African pan Africanist 1072 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:51,360 colors. So now if you have any association to red, black, black 1073 01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,140 and green 1074 01:09:53,190 --> 01:09:55,440 Hello, Jamaica. Yeah. 1075 01:09:57,060 --> 01:10:00,780 You know your website if you have read Like and green or 1076 01:10:00,780 --> 01:10:05,310 anything with those colors, now you get knocked into the group. 1077 01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:12,360 This is all too convenient. Wow. And like I said these are heavy 1078 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,660 hitting news agency theory that reported is almost as fat which 1079 01:10:15,780 --> 01:10:18,180 didn't make any sense. He would at least would have finished one 1080 01:10:18,180 --> 01:10:22,800 of them as RBG best what he meant when he just put RB in two 1081 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:27,240 separate places and nests and it kind of, as you know, with any 1082 01:10:30,060 --> 01:10:34,500 narrative that they roll out, it just sticks of course and so it 1083 01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:38,910 was it was a it was red, black and green cheese. So that wraps 1084 01:10:38,910 --> 01:10:45,480 up the Dallas, Dallas shooting. And right 10 days later, we have 1085 01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:46,080 this event 1086 01:10:46,290 --> 01:10:49,800 we want to get to the tragedy. in Baton Rouge three police 1087 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,920 officers killed at a deadly assault three more injured after 1088 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,800 a gunman attacked them at a busy intersection. Terrified 1089 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,070 witnesses hiding in the car capturing the ambush on cell 1090 01:10:59,070 --> 01:11:02,940 phone video before the shooter was taken down. Amy Robach on 1091 01:11:02,940 --> 01:11:05,640 the scene for us there in Louisiana with the latest. Good 1092 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:06,150 morning Amy. 1093 01:11:07,950 --> 01:11:11,220 That's right. Good morning Robin and the headline of advocate 1094 01:11:11,220 --> 01:11:14,760 here in Baton Rouge says that all senseless the carnage began 1095 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,810 here behind me after police officers responded to a 911 call 1096 01:11:18,810 --> 01:11:22,320 about a suspicious looking man carrying guns. When those 1097 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:26,580 battens officers arrived they were targeted shot and three of 1098 01:11:26,580 --> 01:11:27,420 them killed. 1099 01:11:30,180 --> 01:11:37,500 At 840 For the first shots rang out. Just two moments earlier 1100 01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:40,680 Baton Rouge Police scrambled to this busy intersection after 1101 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,850 receiving a 911 call about a man dressed all in black armed with 1102 01:11:44,850 --> 01:11:48,660 a rifle and a semi automatic pistol when officers arrived the 1103 01:11:48,660 --> 01:11:53,220 suspect 29 year old former Marine Gavin long began to fire 1104 01:11:53,370 --> 01:11:55,410 another Marine go figure 1105 01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:03,570 arm in the same fashion. Yep. As as Mike X Johnson, a assault 1106 01:12:03,570 --> 01:12:06,090 rifle and a handgun. 1107 01:12:08,250 --> 01:12:08,760 Yeah 1108 01:12:10,350 --> 01:12:16,560 10 days later. He drove out from St. Louis to Baton Rouge. He 1109 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,230 wasn't even originally from Baton Rouge, right but Rouge was 1110 01:12:19,230 --> 01:12:26,250 the hotbed because Alton Sterling shooting Yeah, it's 1111 01:12:26,250 --> 01:12:29,040 strike strike is strange, I tell you. 1112 01:12:29,700 --> 01:12:34,110 No, no, it is and I mean, I was focused on other things. I 1113 01:12:34,110 --> 01:12:37,110 remember I was you know, it's like, there's so much was 1114 01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:41,010 exploding around this. It was and we were just figuring out 1115 01:12:41,010 --> 01:12:45,780 that we really only figured out in with the Louisiana stuff that 1116 01:12:45,810 --> 01:12:51,240 you know, black lives matter was a Soros outfit and you know the 1117 01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:57,060 I mean right down to the founder of BLM living in a Soros house 1118 01:12:57,090 --> 01:12:59,700 you know, that's the stuff I was looking at then didn't even look 1119 01:12:59,700 --> 01:13:01,590 at this is very interesting. Why like it. 1120 01:13:03,690 --> 01:13:06,660 So we have two people with the intent and the thing throughout 1121 01:13:06,660 --> 01:13:13,890 American history. We haven't had that many black militant black 1122 01:13:13,890 --> 01:13:17,160 radical shootings of cops. Well, there hasn't been 1123 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,490 that many cops killed since 911. That was a humongous No I mean, 1124 01:13:20,490 --> 01:13:22,740 I was five eight it was a big number. 1125 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:28,020 And then within two days maintain Excuse me 10 days you 1126 01:13:28,020 --> 01:13:31,950 have two shooters armed in the same fashion doing highly 1127 01:13:31,950 --> 01:13:35,160 tactical shootings of police officers was similar bad there 1128 01:13:36,180 --> 01:13:40,050 were similar backgrounds, ex military, the army the same 1129 01:13:40,050 --> 01:13:44,730 fashion and they have a quote unquote pro black ideology. 1130 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:50,910 Now let me guess was this What was his name? Gavin long Gavin 1131 01:13:50,910 --> 01:13:54,360 long. Did he like some bad groups on Facebook? I'm just 1132 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,180 guessing. Ah, 1133 01:13:57,210 --> 01:14:00,420 we're gonna get there but let's get into his ex marine 1134 01:14:00,420 --> 01:14:01,020 background. 1135 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:05,550 The suspect who fatally shot three officers in Baton Rouge on 1136 01:14:05,550 --> 01:14:09,150 Sunday before being killed by police has been identified as a 1137 01:14:09,150 --> 01:14:13,200 former Marine Sergeant Gavin long a 29 year old African 1138 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,990 American man was according to a person briefed on the 1139 01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:20,040 investigation from Kansas City and affiliated with an anti 1140 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:24,180 government group. This image was published on a Twitter account 1141 01:14:24,180 --> 01:14:28,530 linked to a website called Convos with Cosmo dot club, a 1142 01:14:28,530 --> 01:14:32,550 site registered by a person identified as Gavin long from 1143 01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:37,230 Kansas City. In a tweet posted on Sunday, it reads just because 1144 01:14:37,230 --> 01:14:40,470 you wake up every morning doesn't mean that you're living. 1145 01:14:40,710 --> 01:14:44,400 And just because you shed your physical body doesn't mean that 1146 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:50,850 you're dead. Sunday shootings happened at a shopping center 1147 01:14:50,850 --> 01:14:57,600 not far from the Baton Rouge Police Headquarters. Apparently 1148 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,230 officers saw a man carrying a rifle and dressed all in black 1149 01:15:01,260 --> 01:15:03,600 standing behind a beauty supply store. 1150 01:15:03,630 --> 01:15:06,600 We do not have a pony on the shooter. He is not in fight. 1151 01:15:08,010 --> 01:15:11,700 Cyber Police now believe the gunman lured the officers there 1152 01:15:11,700 --> 01:15:15,810 to ambush them. Sunday shooting comes just two weeks after 1153 01:15:15,810 --> 01:15:19,170 police in Baton Rouge shot and killed black man, Alton 1154 01:15:19,170 --> 01:15:24,000 Sterling, an incident that led to protests in the city. It also 1155 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,800 follows another police shooting in Dallas last week, where five 1156 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,560 officers were killed and nearly a dozen injured. 1157 01:15:31,770 --> 01:15:34,830 Yeah, remember, it was like an ambush situations coming back to 1158 01:15:34,830 --> 01:15:35,220 me now. 1159 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,520 And that's the term that was used in both cases. Ambush 1160 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,750 ambush. Yeah. And they say he was linked to a anti government 1161 01:15:42,750 --> 01:15:45,270 group. I think this is a term they use what they didn't 1162 01:15:45,270 --> 01:15:49,890 specify that was a majority white, quote unquote, anti 1163 01:15:49,890 --> 01:15:53,820 government group, because that's the one that I'm Karen Bass 1164 01:15:53,820 --> 01:15:59,280 refer to and heroclip. But they just left it as is as well. And 1165 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,090 if you just do the mental jump, oh, I had to be a black group he 1166 01:16:03,090 --> 01:16:04,950 was associated with, you know, we have this. 1167 01:16:05,070 --> 01:16:07,980 Of course, we're trained to think this now. Yeah. 1168 01:16:08,910 --> 01:16:13,800 And you asked the previous question his connection to his 1169 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,090 activity online. Yeah. 1170 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:19,110 Was he liking anything anything bad on face bag, where he left 1171 01:16:19,260 --> 01:16:20,220 online trail, 1172 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,300 a trail putting it more on the gunman. Now a military veteran 1173 01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:27,150 who posted threatening videos may have had ties to militant 1174 01:16:27,150 --> 01:16:29,520 groups. Maybe he's chief investigative correspondent 1175 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,520 Brian Ross has the latest Convos with 1176 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,270 Cosmo that's me. Using the pseudonym Cosmo, the shooter 1177 01:16:36,270 --> 01:16:40,980 Gavin Eugene long posted this video online. The day after the 1178 01:16:40,980 --> 01:16:44,070 five police officers in Dallas were shot and killed. It's 1179 01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:46,470 a time for peace. But it's a time for war. And most of the 1180 01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:48,870 times when you want peace, you gotta go to war. 1181 01:16:49,050 --> 01:16:52,410 Overnight police and the FBI were at the home of long in 1182 01:16:52,410 --> 01:16:55,290 Kansas City, Missouri, where neighbors described him as a 1183 01:16:55,290 --> 01:16:58,830 quiet man divorced with children. government document 1184 01:16:58,830 --> 01:17:02,010 showed long was a military veteran who served five years in 1185 01:17:02,010 --> 01:17:07,440 the Marines, including tours in Japan and Iraq. And police say 1186 01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:10,200 the Sunday Morning Ambush showed signs of being 1187 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,940 well planned. Wow, that's when you put it all together like 1188 01:17:14,940 --> 01:17:18,960 that. It's very interesting. Very, very interesting. I like 1189 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,670 that a lot. That's good. 1190 01:17:21,150 --> 01:17:27,000 And I have a theory. All right. I have a theory. But first, we 1191 01:17:27,180 --> 01:17:28,830 like people buy new money. 1192 01:17:28,860 --> 01:17:31,350 I don't know if you do but I hate old money that's wrinkled 1193 01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:35,670 and dirty and got all the diseases on it. I like new 1194 01:17:35,670 --> 01:17:41,040 money. And when I give when I give things to people, I like to 1195 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:45,690 give stacks of money. It's fun. You ever had a stack of new 1196 01:17:45,690 --> 01:17:57,480 money? Have you? You'd have it have you a little snack? Oh. And 1197 01:17:57,480 --> 01:18:01,050 so I made the on the big stack where it was brand new in that I 1198 01:18:01,050 --> 01:18:03,300 like brand new money. I just I don't want any money around me. 1199 01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:08,520 It's not. I don't want to have a new one than a brand than an old 1200 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,000 20. That's kind of dumb. But there's something about new 1201 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:17,130 money that excites you. 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That make good on it. 1282 01:23:19,020 --> 01:23:25,170 Yeah, John Cena just email us. No, no problem. Also 20 $25 from 1283 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:30,540 Shireen vos Marti mo power to your pote podcast. He says learn 1284 01:23:30,540 --> 01:23:33,810 so many things that I had no idea about. Can you please keep 1285 01:23:33,810 --> 01:23:37,560 it up Mo and Adam Well, you will meet both Shamir and Shreeve, 1286 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:42,930 nos us Shrinivas. There you go. I've learned quite a bit in the 1287 01:23:42,930 --> 01:23:46,920 past six, seven months myself. 25 Donald's us from Connor 1288 01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,430 Lawrence, who says keep fighting the good fight you too. Hope you 1289 01:23:50,430 --> 01:23:52,980 too are keeping healthy we are thank you for the best wishes, 1290 01:23:52,980 --> 01:23:57,330 Christopher trop $15. 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That'll 1321 01:26:04,740 --> 01:26:08,100 take you directly to the donation page and support us for 1322 01:26:08,100 --> 01:26:08,790 our next show. 1323 01:26:12,420 --> 01:26:16,950 So before we went to the donation segment, I say I have a 1324 01:26:16,950 --> 01:26:20,430 theory Yes. Manchurian Candidate 1325 01:26:23,610 --> 01:26:27,210 How much do you actually know about your friend I served under 1326 01:26:27,210 --> 01:26:28,650 him he was a good man that's 1327 01:26:28,650 --> 01:26:31,140 what the neighbors always say about serial killers. 1328 01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:35,580 Somebody put an implant inside me I got a good for the people 1329 01:26:35,580 --> 01:26:39,390 wanting you to you need to get open not crazy Shah 1330 01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:45,090 Raymond This is Jamie Johnson of Manchurian global for strong 1331 01:26:45,090 --> 01:26:45,750 supporters 1332 01:26:49,140 --> 01:26:53,310 to flick the switch we can adjust character change 1333 01:26:53,310 --> 01:26:59,400 personality these are not supposed to exist Raymond 1334 01:26:59,460 --> 01:27:02,040 Prentice show listen 1335 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:08,220 this is a cool this is rich people on the bad science to put 1336 01:27:08,220 --> 01:27:09,570 sleeper in the White House 1337 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,990 among the shareholders in Manchurian global you would find 1338 01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:19,080 former presidents opposed Kings I get it they're big they're 1339 01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,690 huge. You bring me rumors and conjecture I started with 1340 01:27:21,690 --> 01:27:24,360 nightmares rumors conjectures that's a giant leap forward. 1341 01:27:26,010 --> 01:27:29,790 Somebody got into our heads neurons got got got exposed and 1342 01:27:29,790 --> 01:27:31,110 circuits got wide. I 1343 01:27:31,110 --> 01:27:35,550 think you should leave I gotta find out what's going to happen 1344 01:27:35,550 --> 01:27:36,600 where it's gonna happen. 1345 01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:38,220 It's delusional. 1346 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:40,140 To watch where you 1347 01:27:40,140 --> 01:27:43,800 go. You swore to me that this was failsafe no leaks no 1348 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:48,660 glitches. I will do whatever is necessary to protect my son's 1349 01:27:48,690 --> 01:27:49,980 we're going to stop this and take 1350 01:27:49,980 --> 01:28:03,960 them out. They factored you in captain, do you remember me? 1351 01:28:05,700 --> 01:28:11,550 Wow. Okay, so I haven't seen both the Frank Sinatra version, 1352 01:28:11,580 --> 01:28:15,900 which is no way is cool when it comes to sound effects. Den. 1353 01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:18,180 This is a Denzel Washington version. I guess. I don't know 1354 01:28:18,180 --> 01:28:19,080 of any other one. Yeah, 1355 01:28:19,260 --> 01:28:25,230 yes. 2004. The trailer from the previous version didn't have any 1356 01:28:25,230 --> 01:28:26,070 sound sounded 1357 01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:31,440 Oh, neither did the movie. Movie was not that great. I mean from 1358 01:28:31,470 --> 01:28:34,800 by today's technical standards, but it was of course the 1359 01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:44,400 brainwashing of a vet. A former marine or military? 1360 01:28:44,970 --> 01:28:48,840 Yeah, just say military former soldiers. Yeah. Brainwash, but 1361 01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:49,980 by who? 1362 01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:53,610 In the movie? Yes. 1363 01:28:56,490 --> 01:28:59,160 But what's operation? Yes, yeah. Oh, that's 1364 01:29:00,810 --> 01:29:05,820 Manchurian Corporation. Correct? Yes, I remember now. Yes. 1365 01:29:06,300 --> 01:29:10,830 So now this is where this is where I reach Oh, you call it a 1366 01:29:10,830 --> 01:29:15,330 reach. But I have receipts. So I don't even give a damn they're 1367 01:29:16,860 --> 01:29:21,990 gonna fire it up. But he doesn't need No, not yet. Okay. Well, I 1368 01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:26,160 did see here is in the movie. You have a corporation made up 1369 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:31,020 of former President billionaires. So I'm not looking 1370 01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:36,840 at the government here on this. We're going into 2016 election. 1371 01:29:37,590 --> 01:29:42,720 We see George Soros has pumped billions of dollars into this 1372 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:47,910 whole Black Lives Matter movement. Yes. What's to say? 1373 01:29:48,930 --> 01:29:54,300 They're not organizations or factions out there that will go 1374 01:29:54,300 --> 01:29:59,460 the next step to trigger individuals which these two will 1375 01:29:59,460 --> 01:30:05,370 be perfect. candidates you have hyper, hyper angry anger. 1376 01:30:05,370 --> 01:30:05,730 They're very 1377 01:30:06,330 --> 01:30:10,080 Oh, yeah. Trump traumatized by war and has all the right 1378 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:10,950 elements. Sure. 1379 01:30:11,370 --> 01:30:14,220 Yeah. They have the functionality of being former 1380 01:30:14,220 --> 01:30:16,740 soldiers. I mean, for long periods of time, I think one was 1381 01:30:16,740 --> 01:30:21,000 like five years, almost four years. You can easily build a 1382 01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:27,510 profile online on these two. You can say that, no, this, this is 1383 01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:30,750 the type of person we want to push over the edge. Now, this is 1384 01:30:30,750 --> 01:30:33,630 the point where everybody's saying, Come on Mo. 1385 01:30:33,690 --> 01:30:37,680 No, I'm not liking it. I like where this is going. 1386 01:30:38,970 --> 01:30:43,320 So what I did was, I went and found Mr. Gavin's Long's first 1387 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:44,340 YouTube video. 1388 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:49,380 First off self preservation. The first law nature is the same 1389 01:30:49,380 --> 01:30:53,370 thing. Same way as when America, they put you on a mainstream, 1390 01:30:53,370 --> 01:30:57,390 they put on the mainstream media that has a new tyrant, a new 1391 01:30:57,390 --> 01:31:02,730 enemy, and a go and physically do an assault on that country is 1392 01:31:02,730 --> 01:31:07,110 the same thing. And it's the same way how when I was in the 1393 01:31:07,110 --> 01:31:12,300 Marines, I went and fought, you know, foot foot foot United 1394 01:31:12,300 --> 01:31:18,150 States. Because it was a so called enemy. So it's no other 1395 01:31:18,150 --> 01:31:21,660 it's not different from someone fighting against you and 1396 01:31:21,660 --> 01:31:24,630 assaulting you and you protecting yourself is the same 1397 01:31:24,630 --> 01:31:27,270 way. There's nothing wrong with it. You got the right to defend 1398 01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:32,490 yourself at any moment. If someone is assaulting you, and 1399 01:31:32,490 --> 01:31:35,580 gang stalking is an assault on you physically, mentally, 1400 01:31:35,700 --> 01:31:40,560 spiritually, emotionally and psychologically. So you got a 1401 01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,140 right to defend yourself at any moment. You got a right to 1402 01:31:43,140 --> 01:31:47,040 preserve Yes. To preserve your life at any moment you choose, 1403 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:47,880 and you're gonna be right. 1404 01:31:48,900 --> 01:31:52,770 Okay, so he's talking about sub being psychologically abused. 1405 01:31:55,080 --> 01:32:02,490 Gavin long, said he was a victim of gang stalking. Yeah. Which 1406 01:32:02,490 --> 01:32:09,240 is, as he said in the clip is psychological abuse. Did you 1407 01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:10,440 hear this reported anywhere? 1408 01:32:10,470 --> 01:32:14,310 No, of course, not Mo. I didn't even I thought they would have 1409 01:32:14,310 --> 01:32:18,240 deleted his YouTube channel by now. That's crazy. I'm 1410 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:19,530 amazed I found this. 1411 01:32:20,700 --> 01:32:22,500 Interesting. That is very interesting. 1412 01:32:24,090 --> 01:32:27,480 And what I find it even more interesting is if I'm wanting to 1413 01:32:27,480 --> 01:32:32,310 build a case against Gavin long, right? I'm gonna say, this guy's 1414 01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:36,600 crazy. Because he said he was gangster and gang stalking is 1415 01:32:37,050 --> 01:32:43,890 clearly show that he's not real. And he shows signs of mental 1416 01:32:43,890 --> 01:32:49,440 illness. I'll say. Why did they take that angle? It was no, I 1417 01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:51,720 mean, because you can easily make that case. And it's like, 1418 01:32:51,750 --> 01:32:56,580 one plus one is two. He was a quote unquote. He thought he was 1419 01:32:56,580 --> 01:32:59,310 being gang stalked, but that was signs of mental illness, which 1420 01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:03,450 led to him doing what he did wrap it up a nice bow and it's 1421 01:33:03,450 --> 01:33:04,620 over here. Well, we 1422 01:33:04,620 --> 01:33:08,070 can't have that. That's not what that's not. 1423 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:16,170 Right. Well, what what why would he think he was Gangstar? Let's 1424 01:33:16,170 --> 01:33:19,560 just take him for his word. Okay, let's get into the second 1425 01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:20,340 YouTube clip. 1426 01:33:20,610 --> 01:33:23,850 I follow nature, I'm in tune with nature. Nowhere in nature, 1427 01:33:23,850 --> 01:33:31,290 you go see a goddamn lion. Protest And when a gang of 1428 01:33:31,290 --> 01:33:34,860 hyenas come to attack his ass, he will be peaceful protests and 1429 01:33:34,860 --> 01:33:37,470 holding up signs, you're not going to see it in nature 1430 01:33:37,470 --> 01:33:41,610 anywhere. Because self preservation is the first law of 1431 01:33:41,610 --> 01:33:44,790 nature. Every animal in nature, I know human beings are not 1432 01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:50,460 animals. But you have the right to preserve yourself. You can 1433 01:33:50,460 --> 01:33:53,070 choose to or you can you don't have to fight back. That's 1434 01:33:53,070 --> 01:33:56,400 that's the difference between human beings and animals. You 1435 01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:02,280 have the choice, you see. But if you choose to fight back, there 1436 01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,970 are no consequences. So that's the difference. So a lot of 1437 01:34:05,970 --> 01:34:10,230 teachers don't even know that harassment is a felony. Stalking 1438 01:34:10,230 --> 01:34:13,950 with harassment is a damn felony. That's a felony charge. 1439 01:34:13,980 --> 01:34:18,180 You definitely have the right to defend yourself. And if someone 1440 01:34:18,180 --> 01:34:20,760 is and you know, gang stalking is they're trying to tempt you. 1441 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:24,480 They're trying to make you attempt suicide. That's 1442 01:34:24,480 --> 01:34:27,870 attempted murder. If someone is trying to tempt you to force to 1443 01:34:27,870 --> 01:34:32,190 force you into suicide, isn't that attempted murder? Come on 1444 01:34:32,190 --> 01:34:35,790 now. Let's open our eyes get it together a defend yourself at 1445 01:34:35,790 --> 01:34:39,270 all costs. Stand in your righteousness die in your 1446 01:34:39,270 --> 01:34:40,560 righteousness period. 1447 01:34:41,430 --> 01:34:52,080 Wow. You know, June 10 2016. So this is before before all this? 1448 01:34:53,490 --> 01:34:56,850 Yes, this is his very first YouTube video, right but he's 1449 01:34:56,850 --> 01:34:57,930 where he leaves off with 1450 01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:02,490 but I'm saying I'm seeing an article up from June 10 2016, 1451 01:35:02,490 --> 01:35:07,290 New York Times about a guy who complained that he was being 1452 01:35:07,470 --> 01:35:12,270 gang stalked, and he uses the term T eyes, which I just heard 1453 01:35:12,270 --> 01:35:18,270 in. Yes, in this video, and that stands for targeted individual. 1454 01:35:18,270 --> 01:35:21,750 This is some paranoid stuff, man. Now, of course, it may be 1455 01:35:21,750 --> 01:35:24,750 true, but this is people who believe that you're walking 1456 01:35:24,750 --> 01:35:28,110 around and people bump into you on purpose, and they're 1457 01:35:28,110 --> 01:35:31,230 targeting you and they're harassing you, and you're a TI a 1458 01:35:31,230 --> 01:35:34,710 targeted individual. And there's groups of people who feel that 1459 01:35:34,710 --> 01:35:38,610 they are also targeted individuals by this gang 1460 01:35:38,610 --> 01:35:39,270 stalking. 1461 01:35:41,340 --> 01:35:45,450 And this is so widespread and just this this add on to the 1462 01:35:45,450 --> 01:35:49,650 point you made. You remember the Naval Shipyard? 1463 01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:53,010 Yes, yeah, that was another crazy one. 1464 01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:58,980 He was saying they were using Lova low frequency voices in his 1465 01:35:58,980 --> 01:36:03,750 head. Right? He changed the hotel room three times. And he 1466 01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:08,160 even took and carved on his shotgun. It was a low energy 1467 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:12,480 something weapon. So I mean, we say these people, they're saying 1468 01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:17,460 something. And not like I said, I either he's mentally ill, 1469 01:36:17,700 --> 01:36:20,820 which will explain why he did what he did. Or he's actually a 1470 01:36:20,820 --> 01:36:24,630 TI, which explains why he did what he did when we