1 00:00:02,820 --> 00:00:07,260 mo fax with Adam curry for December 30 2019. This is 2 00:00:07,260 --> 00:00:18,090 episode number 19 the heck is this Mo? What did you send me? 3 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,830 This is main source. Yeah. Looking at the front door 4 00:00:22,860 --> 00:00:23,970 should I know this 5 00:00:26,010 --> 00:00:28,050 obscure hip hop from the 90s so 6 00:00:29,130 --> 00:00:32,610 90s I was like building a company and I didn't give a crap 7 00:00:32,610 --> 00:00:38,010 the Bill Clinton got impeached. I had no idea. Completely 8 00:00:38,010 --> 00:00:40,710 different things. Okay, that's nice. I like it a lot. But hey, 9 00:00:40,710 --> 00:00:42,750 Mo how are you? Happy? Merry Christmas. 10 00:00:43,380 --> 00:00:45,300 Merry Christmas to you, sir. How you doing? Yeah, 11 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:48,210 good. Good. We haven't spoken for a little bit. In fact, that 12 00:00:48,210 --> 00:00:51,390 was just before we got started. Someone on Twitter was giving us 13 00:00:51,390 --> 00:00:55,290 crap. Saying hey, where's Where's Moe fax you guys are 14 00:00:55,290 --> 00:01:01,350 slacking like, man. It's ended the holidays. We know that m 15 00:01:01,350 --> 00:01:05,640 five M goes on holiday but we actually tried to do something 16 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:06,210 for you. All 17 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:09,600 right, we we should bring in the beat team. I mean, like 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,440 everybody else. 19 00:01:12,210 --> 00:01:15,810 Yeah, the life of a podcaster now did you have? Do you have a 20 00:01:15,810 --> 00:01:19,140 nice Christmas? You? Does a lot of your family come over to how 21 00:01:19,140 --> 00:01:23,430 do I see that? You got you got like 18 kids? Yes. 22 00:01:24,870 --> 00:01:31,290 No. No. We had a great Christmas. My mom was gone came 23 00:01:31,290 --> 00:01:35,460 in came to visit. She just went home today. So I got a been 24 00:01:35,670 --> 00:01:36,420 loved up. 25 00:01:36,540 --> 00:01:38,340 Oh, yeah. Nice. 26 00:01:39,570 --> 00:01:43,050 And sleep deprived due to the kids. You know, they get up 27 00:01:43,260 --> 00:01:48,840 hella early in the morning. So I'm running low asleep behind 28 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,080 the. 29 00:01:49,710 --> 00:01:53,520 Okay. Very good. Yeah, we had my my step, stepdaughters. Were 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,660 over. Okay. And Christina has, she was with her mom this year. 31 00:01:57,660 --> 00:02:00,870 So she's here next year, and she was in Rotterdam. But it was 32 00:02:00,870 --> 00:02:04,380 nice, nice, pretty uneventful. Nice, everyone happy, you know, 33 00:02:04,830 --> 00:02:06,030 just enough to drink 34 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:10,500 perfect. About the same here without the drinking. 35 00:02:11,850 --> 00:02:16,530 Which brings us to moe facts, the last one for this year. And 36 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,330 that you were we kind of left it. After the last episode, we 37 00:02:21,330 --> 00:02:25,560 like I'm going to wrap up into your stuff and, and I realized 38 00:02:25,590 --> 00:02:28,440 about an hour ago, like I really have no idea what we're doing. 39 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,980 So I am ready to be to embark on the journey. 40 00:02:33,330 --> 00:02:40,680 This is going to be the black vote episode. Okay. So we're 41 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,740 going to talk about a few things that we promised that we were 42 00:02:43,740 --> 00:02:47,850 going to talk about the Southern strategy, Why do black people 43 00:02:47,850 --> 00:02:54,900 vote vote democratic? And why I refuse to vote? Why am I 44 00:02:55,380 --> 00:02:58,980 abstaining from voting? So I promise to answer those 45 00:02:58,980 --> 00:03:02,520 questions. And I think those will be answered in this 46 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:03,090 episode. 47 00:03:03,180 --> 00:03:07,260 I can't wait. It should be over in my, what, 17 minutes. 48 00:03:10,170 --> 00:03:15,480 So, so we have, um, let's just get right into it, the history 49 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,970 of the black vote, and what it means for 2020. 50 00:03:18,059 --> 00:03:22,289 In 2020, we think that at least one out of every four votes that 51 00:03:22,289 --> 00:03:24,779 are cast in the Democratic primaries for president are 52 00:03:24,779 --> 00:03:27,929 going to come from black voters, it's very possible that will be 53 00:03:27,929 --> 00:03:31,289 the highest number we've ever seen before. It's very possible, 54 00:03:31,289 --> 00:03:34,079 we will look back at 2020 and say the black vote was never 55 00:03:34,079 --> 00:03:38,909 more important than in 22. Put this in some context we've put 56 00:03:38,909 --> 00:03:42,239 together here, something I think is very interesting exit polls, 57 00:03:42,359 --> 00:03:46,289 starting in 1976. From past Democratic presidential 58 00:03:46,289 --> 00:03:49,769 primaries. 1976 was basically the first year that media 59 00:03:49,769 --> 00:03:53,759 outlets like NBC began sponsoring these primary exit 60 00:03:53,759 --> 00:03:55,769 polls, you know, whether it's the New York primary, the New 61 00:03:55,769 --> 00:03:58,739 Hampshire primary, the Florida primary. And so we have a record 62 00:03:58,739 --> 00:04:01,559 that record though a lot of it has been buried, we have been 63 00:04:01,559 --> 00:04:06,359 able to resurface we think every primary since 1976. On the 64 00:04:06,359 --> 00:04:09,809 Democratic side, where there has been a significant black vote in 65 00:04:09,809 --> 00:04:13,439 that primary, and where an exit poll was conducted. We found it. 66 00:04:13,649 --> 00:04:17,069 We put it all together here. And you get a look here at how the 67 00:04:17,069 --> 00:04:20,099 black vote has gone in each one of these competitive Democratic 68 00:04:20,099 --> 00:04:22,319 races. And a couple of things stand out. 69 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,370 Now that I understand exactly what this episode is going to be 70 00:04:26,370 --> 00:04:29,850 about. I want to tell all the listeners, they're very lucky 71 00:04:29,850 --> 00:04:34,290 you are you are going to get an education that will make you 72 00:04:34,290 --> 00:04:38,820 smarter than anybody else, you know, because this I think is 73 00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:41,310 probably right. And I'm surprised NBC did this. So I 74 00:04:41,310 --> 00:04:44,850 can't wait to hear more. This could be a very important 75 00:04:44,850 --> 00:04:45,270 lesson. 76 00:04:46,830 --> 00:04:53,250 And this is a very important election. As the broadcaster 77 00:04:53,250 --> 00:04:57,450 said, one out of every four votes is going to be cast in the 78 00:04:57,450 --> 00:05:02,280 primary is going to be a black vote. Right. We've already 79 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:06,150 spoken about the numbers in previous episodes of how they 80 00:05:06,150 --> 00:05:10,650 need around 67% turnout for Democrats to be successful in, 81 00:05:11,460 --> 00:05:16,200 in the general election. So they're really dependent upon 82 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:22,230 the black vote. And what this has done is put, quote unquote, 83 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:28,740 black people in a very powerful, powerful position to make 84 00:05:28,740 --> 00:05:30,630 demands. And do 85 00:05:30,630 --> 00:05:34,590 you think that this is well known? Does everybody who's 86 00:05:34,590 --> 00:05:38,910 black know that this, this power is there at this moment in town? 87 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:45,150 Okay. No, there is a divide of who knows who doesn't know? Who 88 00:05:45,210 --> 00:05:50,970 is that? Who's possibly abstaining? Who is gonna vote 89 00:05:50,970 --> 00:05:53,790 regardless. And that's what we're going to get into it get 90 00:05:53,790 --> 00:05:57,750 into as we move throughout this episode, because it's not a 91 00:05:57,750 --> 00:06:01,470 monolith. Even though it's a voting bloc. It's not a 92 00:06:01,470 --> 00:06:05,070 monolith. So I know, it's a weird thing. But 93 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,730 well, no, I mean, this people have different ideas, different 94 00:06:08,730 --> 00:06:10,830 opinions, but it's an active conversation. 95 00:06:11,490 --> 00:06:16,440 Yes. And well, when we typically vote, we vote in a block for one 96 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,140 party. Okay. So that is called 97 00:06:19,140 --> 00:06:21,180 collusion is called collusion mode. 98 00:06:23,490 --> 00:06:33,180 Yeah. So that is so very unique phenomenon. And I think our 99 00:06:33,180 --> 00:06:39,150 listeners are gonna be very advantaged by hearing us had 100 00:06:39,150 --> 00:06:42,690 this conversation, excellent going into the 2020 2020 101 00:06:42,690 --> 00:06:46,140 election, because they're going to see, as they've seen from 102 00:06:46,140 --> 00:06:49,890 previous episodes, the things develop real time, and they were 103 00:06:49,890 --> 00:06:54,540 able to see what was going on as it was happening. So let's just 104 00:06:54,540 --> 00:06:56,430 get into number two. 105 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,150 And number one is just there is been a slow, but steady 106 00:07:00,150 --> 00:07:02,790 progression in that time, really, you know, 40 plus years 107 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:06,660 right now, you can point to two really kind of specific events. 108 00:07:06,690 --> 00:07:10,290 Number one came back in the 1980s. It was the 1980s, twice 109 00:07:10,290 --> 00:07:13,920 in the 84 campaign. And again, in the 88 campaign where Jesse 110 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,220 Jackson, the Reverend Jesse Jackson launched full fledged 111 00:07:17,250 --> 00:07:20,730 national presidential campaigns in the Democratic primaries. And 112 00:07:20,730 --> 00:07:24,450 he said in 1984, that one of his goals in that campaign was to 113 00:07:24,450 --> 00:07:28,320 register millions of new black voters to get them voting in the 114 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,530 Democratic primaries. And he did you can see that in this data. 115 00:07:31,590 --> 00:07:35,310 And then you see it jump again, about 20 years later. And that's 116 00:07:35,310 --> 00:07:38,640 when Barack Obama wins with Brock Obama becomes president in 117 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,180 2008. And then through his presidency, you see this kind of 118 00:07:42,180 --> 00:07:45,660 sorting out of the two parties, white working class voters, blue 119 00:07:45,660 --> 00:07:49,050 collar white voters, who had in the past, maybe been Democrats, 120 00:07:49,050 --> 00:07:51,840 they've migrated more towards the Republican Party and the 121 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,050 Democratic Party, the role of black voters, the role of non 122 00:07:55,050 --> 00:07:58,410 white voters in the Democratic Party increased from basically 123 00:07:58,830 --> 00:08:00,900 the moment that Obama became president there. 124 00:08:01,890 --> 00:08:03,720 Wow, when did this air on NBC? 125 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:12,810 This was a what they say, ah, April may know, okay, or April 126 00:08:12,810 --> 00:08:16,110 or April or May. So it was a little while ago as we went 127 00:08:16,110 --> 00:08:20,850 under the radar. Of course. Of course. I mean, even for me, 128 00:08:20,850 --> 00:08:23,430 because when I went in to go dig for clips, I was like, wow, I 129 00:08:23,430 --> 00:08:28,080 mean, he really broke down the numbers. Yeah. So what we really 130 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,390 see here, we have a perfect storm happening here. We have 131 00:08:33,390 --> 00:08:36,630 the information age of the internet, and really the 132 00:08:36,630 --> 00:08:39,750 smartphone because that was that made information so much 133 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:44,100 accessible, where you have people with laptops, desktops, 134 00:08:44,730 --> 00:08:47,370 people would really get on there to do to do a lot of searching 135 00:08:47,370 --> 00:08:48,780 but now with social media. 136 00:08:49,919 --> 00:08:52,529 Obama was supposed to be the internet president, but he 137 00:08:52,529 --> 00:08:55,349 really wasn't I mean, the the internet then when Twitter was 138 00:08:55,349 --> 00:09:00,089 around, but understanding how to use it, and just the the force 139 00:09:00,089 --> 00:09:03,359 that social media has become and how integrated it is with 140 00:09:03,509 --> 00:09:07,559 mainstream television, particularly cable news, which 141 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,009 flows over into print. I mean, the machine has really built up 142 00:09:11,009 --> 00:09:14,999 and so now it's a real thing. You can use it, it's being it's 143 00:09:14,999 --> 00:09:18,779 being used, it's being abused, and it can also eat your face 144 00:09:18,779 --> 00:09:19,139 off. 145 00:09:19,949 --> 00:09:24,419 Yeah, and a lot of information is being shared and on Earth. 146 00:09:25,229 --> 00:09:29,099 And then the second part of that storm was Barack Obama being 147 00:09:29,099 --> 00:09:34,019 elected in 2008 2012. Black people felt very disenchanted 148 00:09:34,019 --> 00:09:37,409 from those eight years because we didn't receive anything of 149 00:09:37,409 --> 00:09:41,099 substance or anything tangible from him being an office. 150 00:09:41,550 --> 00:09:46,530 I want to stop you. The term tangibles for people who are 151 00:09:46,530 --> 00:09:49,740 new, let's just explain that because it's thrown around a lot 152 00:09:49,740 --> 00:09:51,240 You said nothing tangible 153 00:09:51,450 --> 00:09:56,970 and that's something that we can really see feel touch. Point to 154 00:09:57,030 --> 00:10:01,590 to say, Okay, we saw progress happen What we typically 155 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:05,340 typically get from the Democratic Party is feel good 156 00:10:05,340 --> 00:10:09,990 stories change of hope you can believe a change you can believe 157 00:10:09,990 --> 00:10:16,500 in hope. That kind of conversation those Yes, 158 00:10:16,530 --> 00:10:20,940 conversation feel good. It was the you know, as the is the feel 159 00:10:20,940 --> 00:10:22,020 good thing. So, 160 00:10:22,319 --> 00:10:26,639 so there was years there was zero tangibles that Obama 161 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:28,769 brought to the black America, 162 00:10:29,399 --> 00:10:33,239 zero. And as I said before, we only expected something from the 163 00:10:33,239 --> 00:10:37,019 last term because we were understanding of the Wink, wink, 164 00:10:37,019 --> 00:10:42,209 nod nod, you have to get make it to the second term to really cut 165 00:10:42,209 --> 00:10:47,669 loose. When that didn't happen. As I say very many people became 166 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:55,439 disappointed. Then you factor in Hillary Clinton running against 167 00:10:55,439 --> 00:10:59,279 Donald Trump, Donald Trump uttering the magical words the 168 00:10:59,279 --> 00:11:02,879 black people are what do you have to lose? That made black 169 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:07,919 people look and say, Oh, what do we have to lose? Right? And from 170 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:13,589 there, now it's about what do we have to gain? So that's where 171 00:11:13,589 --> 00:11:19,139 we're at right now. And it's, it's a magical time if you're 172 00:11:19,139 --> 00:11:24,359 really into politics and and to see a group of people who 173 00:11:24,359 --> 00:11:27,599 actually have this maturation, politically, 174 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,190 there was a, there was a clip circulating on on Twitter today 175 00:11:32,190 --> 00:11:38,130 from CBS much was Face the Nation. What's the guy's name 176 00:11:38,130 --> 00:11:42,120 Garrett, Garrett, something rather. And he's sitting there 177 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,470 saying, you know, for if you look at what he's done for black 178 00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:51,030 Americans, what he's done for historically black colleges, he 179 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:53,460 had a whole list of a couple of things. He said, That's 180 00:11:53,490 --> 00:11:56,250 accomplishments, any president would want his resume. And it 181 00:11:56,250 --> 00:11:59,010 was quite stunning to hear that on CBS. 182 00:12:00,809 --> 00:12:03,509 For the things that Donald Trump had done for criminal justice, 183 00:12:03,689 --> 00:12:07,679 right, that was another one was also what he's how he's engaged 184 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,579 with the HBCUs. It was because because they were stiff arm by 185 00:12:11,579 --> 00:12:15,599 Obama, when he was in office, he actually took them for granted 186 00:12:15,599 --> 00:12:19,859 and didn't really entertain them at all. Oh, this is well known. 187 00:12:19,889 --> 00:12:23,579 Anybody can look it up. So yeah. So when you have these things 188 00:12:23,579 --> 00:12:29,309 happening. And we talked about the masculinity portion of it. 189 00:12:29,489 --> 00:12:31,379 Yeah. So yeah. And 190 00:12:31,530 --> 00:12:35,070 yes. In fact, I don't know why I don't want to stray too much. 191 00:12:35,070 --> 00:12:38,760 But I was, I started watching Kevin Hart's series on Netflix. 192 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,080 Have you seen this? 193 00:12:40,529 --> 00:12:43,199 No, I haven't seen it yet. But I heard about it. And I do want 194 00:12:43,199 --> 00:12:43,259 to. 195 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,380 I mean, there's, there's some things I don't like, but I 196 00:12:46,380 --> 00:12:50,610 really do like this guy. And at a certain point, it's kind of a 197 00:12:50,610 --> 00:12:53,130 reality show. I mean, I completely understand how this 198 00:12:53,130 --> 00:12:56,910 is made. And I like a lot of the choices he's made. But he has 199 00:12:56,910 --> 00:12:59,700 this crew of guys that he came and kind of came up with from 200 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:04,500 and poor. And they talk openly about, you know, how none of 201 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:07,050 them had a dad and how their their brotherhood and they got 202 00:13:07,050 --> 00:13:10,230 to watch out for each other. And you can just see that energy, 203 00:13:10,230 --> 00:13:13,650 and you can see how easily that is tapped into with a guy like 204 00:13:13,650 --> 00:13:14,070 Trump. 205 00:13:15,389 --> 00:13:19,199 Yeah, so it's it's several things that we know Trump was 206 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:23,159 recognized for this the masculine important portion of 207 00:13:23,159 --> 00:13:27,239 it to black men, that it's just like I said, What a time to be 208 00:13:27,239 --> 00:13:27,689 alive. 209 00:13:27,809 --> 00:13:33,029 Oh, hallelujah. Oh, what a time to be a podcast or Mo. 210 00:13:37,830 --> 00:13:40,320 Oh, so let's get into part. Let's get to part three of the 211 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,219 next clip. All there. As we head into 2020 I think you will see 212 00:13:44,219 --> 00:13:47,489 the story there has been sort of that rising tide in the 213 00:13:47,489 --> 00:13:50,609 Democratic Party when it comes to the size, the clout the 214 00:13:50,609 --> 00:13:53,879 power, the role of the black vote in Democratic presidential 215 00:13:53,879 --> 00:13:57,389 primaries in 2020, it'll probably be more important than 216 00:13:57,389 --> 00:13:59,279 we have seen to date. Okay, let 217 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,630 me identify the the dog whistle here was the rising tide, the 218 00:14:03,630 --> 00:14:06,780 rising tide that rises all boats, which I think is no 219 00:14:06,780 --> 00:14:07,830 longer believed. 220 00:14:08,700 --> 00:14:11,610 He just forced it in there because he was he was used out 221 00:14:11,610 --> 00:14:15,210 of context. So he just kind of what's your net win in there? 222 00:14:15,269 --> 00:14:16,649 So what was the point of that? 223 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:20,400 It was it was no point. It was just like, you know, let's just 224 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,540 squeeze a meme in here. 225 00:14:23,009 --> 00:14:25,499 Just trying to feel the time to hit the top of the hour. Okay, I 226 00:14:25,499 --> 00:14:25,919 got it. 227 00:14:25,950 --> 00:14:31,290 Yeah. People, anybody out there is listening and working a 228 00:14:31,290 --> 00:14:35,940 foreign near or any political party, do not use the term 229 00:14:36,090 --> 00:14:42,300 rising tie. falls flat. It does not work anymore. That was a 230 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,940 20th century mean 21st century it has the complete opposite 231 00:14:47,940 --> 00:14:48,360 effect. 232 00:14:48,450 --> 00:14:50,970 I mean, it might come back, you know, in another 10 years, like 233 00:14:50,970 --> 00:14:52,770 bell bottoms, but we'll see. 234 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,280 So, you had you asked the question about the divides and 235 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,540 who's gonna Vote who's not going to vote. So one of the devices 236 00:15:03,540 --> 00:15:07,290 we discussed numerous times in the show is between men and 237 00:15:07,290 --> 00:15:11,460 women. But the one that really hasn't been discussed is the age 238 00:15:11,460 --> 00:15:16,770 group. And the difference between the black Boomer row and 239 00:15:16,770 --> 00:15:18,330 the black millennial vote. 240 00:15:19,620 --> 00:15:22,290 Oh, okay, this is happening. 241 00:15:23,429 --> 00:15:27,029 This is a real phenomenon. And let's get Can 242 00:15:27,029 --> 00:15:30,299 I just need to say something? Honestly, yes. I just realized 243 00:15:30,299 --> 00:15:33,629 that. When I think of black Americans, I never really 244 00:15:33,629 --> 00:15:37,889 thought about black boomers and black millennials. And it sounds 245 00:15:37,889 --> 00:15:41,069 horrible, but I'm just like, I never thought of it that way. 246 00:15:41,069 --> 00:15:44,339 Yeah, of course. You got shitty millennials. And you got stupid 247 00:15:44,339 --> 00:15:44,819 boomers, 248 00:15:44,850 --> 00:15:50,610 I guess. And it's, it's a real divide, because it's a little 249 00:15:50,610 --> 00:15:54,690 inside baseball before we get to the next clip. The millennials, 250 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,020 and not all but some of the millennials and some of the Gen 251 00:15:58,020 --> 00:16:05,490 Xers feel like the boomers did very little with the things that 252 00:16:05,490 --> 00:16:07,710 they were given or the opportunities that were given. 253 00:16:07,950 --> 00:16:11,760 They think they were sold a bill of goods because integration. 254 00:16:12,270 --> 00:16:17,970 Integration is not really seen as CS accessible as you would 255 00:16:17,970 --> 00:16:22,410 think it will be. No, it's actually seen as somewhat as a 256 00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:27,570 as a as a detriment to some people and are so a quote 257 00:16:27,570 --> 00:16:30,480 unquote, community. Wow. So there is a huge divide there 258 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,580 between the black millennial Gen X or in the boomers. Okay. So 259 00:16:35,610 --> 00:16:37,560 Black millennial won. In 260 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:41,039 2016, millennial turnout increased for nearly every 261 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:45,299 racial group, except for black millennials. Pew Research found 262 00:16:45,329 --> 00:16:49,109 White, Asian and Hispanic Millennials turned out at higher 263 00:16:49,109 --> 00:16:52,889 rates than they did in 2012. Whack millennial turnout, on the 264 00:16:52,889 --> 00:16:57,029 other hand, fell by nearly five points. That could present a 265 00:16:57,029 --> 00:17:00,389 problem for Democrats, many of whom view black Millennials as 266 00:17:00,389 --> 00:17:04,349 the future of the party. In an Axios interview last weekend, 267 00:17:04,379 --> 00:17:07,709 the president of the racial justice group Color of Change, 268 00:17:07,919 --> 00:17:11,729 raised concerns that Republicans are aiming to win support from a 269 00:17:11,729 --> 00:17:15,299 traditionally Democratic subset of voters. He said, quote, 270 00:17:15,719 --> 00:17:18,659 President Trump's campaign is handing out literature and black 271 00:17:18,659 --> 00:17:21,989 barbershops right now, they're doing micro targeting on 272 00:17:21,989 --> 00:17:25,979 Facebook and have a digital strategy to engage black folks. 273 00:17:26,249 --> 00:17:29,069 The Democrats would serve themselves really well to 274 00:17:29,069 --> 00:17:33,419 understand in deep ways, the power in intersectionality being 275 00:17:33,419 --> 00:17:37,109 specific and clear, will help people understand you're not 276 00:17:37,109 --> 00:17:40,679 just talking around them or at them, but talking to them 277 00:17:41,340 --> 00:17:50,130 the most okay, I'm looking at Color of Change now. Huh? Who 278 00:17:50,130 --> 00:17:51,390 runs this outfit? 279 00:17:51,780 --> 00:17:56,610 That is worn Mr. Van Jones. Ah, 280 00:17:56,610 --> 00:18:00,240 that's who that is. Okay. I don't I don't dislike him. 281 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,990 Actually. I don't dislike van. He's just kind of. He's 282 00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:05,820 entertaining though. He's full of crap. 283 00:18:05,820 --> 00:18:09,360 He's entertaining. But he's opportunities. Yeah, major 284 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:13,110 opportunities. But he sells himself as a radical in that. 285 00:18:13,710 --> 00:18:17,370 Yeah. Oh, poo. Right. change maker. You know, I mean, look at 286 00:18:17,370 --> 00:18:21,360 this name to color change. Slightly muddy brown. 287 00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:26,850 Well, can't blame them. It's kind of good. The Logos cool. 288 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,610 And he's got something going on there. Okay. All right. I'll put 289 00:18:29,610 --> 00:18:31,620 it in the show notes have to investigate that later. 290 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,820 So what we heard here is the millennial black millennial 291 00:18:35,850 --> 00:18:37,560 numbers are down. Yeah. 292 00:18:37,620 --> 00:18:38,310 Woodrow. 293 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:47,010 We seen the Blau Black Lives Matter go after Hillary Clinton 294 00:18:47,010 --> 00:18:51,180 in 2016. Right. I think that was a crack in the dam. That was 295 00:18:51,180 --> 00:18:54,090 the behind the behind the stage conversation. They had that one. 296 00:18:54,090 --> 00:18:55,380 Yeah. Yeah, I remember that. 297 00:18:55,620 --> 00:18:58,800 When they may her knowledge Black Lives Matter and the name 298 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,850 I think they had a meeting with right direction, right? That's 299 00:19:02,850 --> 00:19:07,350 it right? So you have it from a bunch of different angles. You 300 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:11,400 have like the black super woke, black Millennials saying hey, we 301 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:16,530 want a progressive candidate. So now you can't run a run of the 302 00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:24,540 mill, Joe Biden. Kamala Harris, Booker, those guys won't get it. 303 00:19:25,740 --> 00:19:28,830 So they're willing to lean towards more or you're Bernie 304 00:19:28,830 --> 00:19:33,480 Sanders. Maybe Elizabeth Warren, but she has some issues of hers 305 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,910 and she's Native American that didn't really sit well the 306 00:19:35,910 --> 00:19:37,440 works. So 307 00:19:38,550 --> 00:19:42,270 is it also possible that all millennials in general are 308 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:46,020 disengaging because they're so tired of the boring show? 309 00:19:47,610 --> 00:19:53,340 That could be a possibility but as the last could we play said 310 00:19:53,370 --> 00:19:55,500 all the other millennial numbers are up. 311 00:19:56,850 --> 00:19:59,490 Okay, so you have to trust those numbers then. 312 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,990 Yeah. We all have to take them at face value. But that's just 313 00:20:04,020 --> 00:20:05,580 that goes to show you so 314 00:20:05,610 --> 00:20:09,540 okay with that baseline, yeah, Houston, we have a problem. We 315 00:20:09,570 --> 00:20:12,300 have a huge problem and now we're starting to get to where 316 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:17,460 that so we went from 67 to 59. We're starting to see where this 317 00:20:17,490 --> 00:20:24,900 8% drop is coming from. And it's really the younger voters. So 318 00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:28,140 let's go into black millennial to Orisha hatch 319 00:20:28,140 --> 00:20:32,490 joins me now she is the managing director of campaigns for Color 320 00:20:32,490 --> 00:20:35,910 of Change Orisha, thanks so much for being with us. Thanks for 321 00:20:35,910 --> 00:20:39,270 having me. So what should Democrats be doing in order to 322 00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:41,580 win the support of young black voters? 323 00:20:42,540 --> 00:20:46,050 Democrats can do a lot of things. I think in this election 324 00:20:46,050 --> 00:20:49,710 cycle, specifically, black voters and black Millennials 325 00:20:49,710 --> 00:20:53,250 want to hear Democratic candidates speaking explicitly 326 00:20:53,250 --> 00:20:57,600 to black voters, and explicitly about policy proposals and 327 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,460 agendas that actually help to not only reduce mass 328 00:21:02,460 --> 00:21:06,630 incarceration and discriminatory discriminatory policing, but 329 00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:10,980 also that are working to address the racial wealth wealth gap 330 00:21:10,980 --> 00:21:12,030 that many of us face. 331 00:21:13,230 --> 00:21:15,450 The racial wealth gap. 332 00:21:16,290 --> 00:21:22,500 This is the whole point of reparations. Here we go. This is 333 00:21:22,530 --> 00:21:29,010 the that's the that's the politically safe way of saying 334 00:21:29,010 --> 00:21:29,910 reparations. 335 00:21:31,980 --> 00:21:33,390 The racial 336 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,010 wealth gap 337 00:21:35,070 --> 00:21:37,740 I like Why have I not heard this? 338 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:45,150 So who's made this a big issue is the A das founders tone talks 339 00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:48,720 and event Karnail? 340 00:21:48,750 --> 00:21:52,560 Interesting, because the first the first hit on and I do Google 341 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,180 for this show, is an article from Forbes. The second is from 342 00:21:57,180 --> 00:22:02,820 the New York Times, and then article from Duke. And then the 343 00:22:02,820 --> 00:22:05,640 Ford Foundation is this is an interesting, interesting little 344 00:22:05,670 --> 00:22:08,460 topic we got here. Okay, good. So 345 00:22:08,850 --> 00:22:12,000 why should racial wealth gap we might that might needs to be a 346 00:22:12,180 --> 00:22:14,760 whole nother show in itself, because so fascinating. But 347 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:21,900 that's the that's the gap between the net well, 348 00:22:21,930 --> 00:22:26,130 so it's not just, it's not just radical move the podcaster who's 349 00:22:26,130 --> 00:22:31,050 saying this stuff. It's the it's the millennials, it's it's a lot 350 00:22:31,050 --> 00:22:31,920 deeper than we know, 351 00:22:32,550 --> 00:22:37,080 for its surface very deep. But the Democrats have tried to push 352 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,470 it down. Yes. And not acknowledge it, because they 353 00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:48,480 know is a huge problem for them. It's a major problem. Even the 354 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,290 last speaker, she said they want now this is where 355 00:22:52,290 --> 00:22:55,890 intersectionality doesn't work, because she said black and black 356 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,970 Millennials want things targeted Pacific specifically for them, 357 00:23:00,060 --> 00:23:03,930 right? That's not interested. That's not intersectionality. 358 00:23:03,930 --> 00:23:10,440 No, that's, we want something. No rising tide, none of that 359 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,980 bullcrap, what are you going to trade me for my vote is to even 360 00:23:13,980 --> 00:23:18,810 exchange and this is how politics works. Is that day is 361 00:23:18,810 --> 00:23:23,130 over. It's over. So the Democrats is going to have to 362 00:23:23,130 --> 00:23:26,100 come up with a new strategy. And I just don't think they had they 363 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:28,770 better hurry up. It's just running out of time. 364 00:23:31,470 --> 00:23:37,560 And and you have one Mr. Donald Trump. I'll say this before I 365 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,840 said it before, I'll say it again. We don't know what we're 366 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:46,410 going to get out of 2020 Donald Trump if he wins? No, he's not 367 00:23:46,410 --> 00:23:49,500 beholding to his base anymore. We see he's done things in the 368 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:53,490 background, by criminal justice reform things that you mentioned 369 00:23:53,490 --> 00:23:59,940 previously. So what would he really do to really change? How 370 00:23:59,940 --> 00:24:03,000 he's perceived? And I'm not saying about any parties or 371 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,770 anything, but I think he would do something to to repair his 372 00:24:07,770 --> 00:24:10,590 image. I really do 373 00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:14,220 you think Trump could come up with a reparations Gambit? 374 00:24:15,180 --> 00:24:17,670 I think he would could do something tangible. I wouldn't 375 00:24:17,670 --> 00:24:21,630 say go for his reparations but you can do anything tangible 376 00:24:23,820 --> 00:24:27,870 which I'm so I understand how would that how would that how 377 00:24:27,870 --> 00:24:32,040 would that stone caught what what ripples in the political 378 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:32,910 sphere? 379 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,240 It would, it would cause an incredible brain freeze because 380 00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:43,230 he's racist. That makes no sense that the kk k literally Hitler 381 00:24:43,230 --> 00:24:44,040 does this. 382 00:24:44,790 --> 00:24:49,440 Yes. That was good people on both sides. 383 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:54,360 Fine people, fine people, people, people. 384 00:24:56,130 --> 00:25:00,000 I think we left off it too. Yeah. So let's go on to black 385 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,900 I'm a level three, 386 00:25:01,230 --> 00:25:04,380 and will Color of Change be endorsing a presidential 387 00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:05,940 candidate this election cycle, 388 00:25:06,930 --> 00:25:09,720 we're still undecided about whether to endorse a candidate. 389 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,520 It's a very wide field, we fundamentally believe that any 390 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,720 candidate that Democrats will select will be better than 391 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:22,230 President Donald Trump. And so what we're doing is really 392 00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:26,280 focused on talking and engaging black voters, black millennial 393 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,270 voters, especially many of whom are not even engaged by the 394 00:25:30,270 --> 00:25:34,800 candidates or the campaigns, trying to expand the black 395 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,880 electorate the cycle. 396 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,270 Oh, I see the problem. You just have to talk like this, and then 397 00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:41,940 that will appeal to the black millennials. 398 00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:47,520 Yeah. Let me get this straight. So the candidates haven't 399 00:25:47,550 --> 00:25:55,230 engaged. The voter. You want to talk to the voter? How does that 400 00:25:55,230 --> 00:25:55,590 work? 401 00:25:56,100 --> 00:26:00,390 I mean, first of all, who was she again? Where she from? Oh, 402 00:26:00,390 --> 00:26:02,580 yeah, the color, color colors change, 403 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,580 color change. She's their spokesperson is just a 404 00:26:05,580 --> 00:26:06,390 word salad. 405 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:12,450 You're saying? She is, but it's certain words she won't use and 406 00:26:12,450 --> 00:26:15,240 that's a little foreshadowing. Next couple. Next couple of 407 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,120 clips. But I'm asking I'll ask this question again. And people 408 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:23,070 didn't think about this. Candidates are not engaging with 409 00:26:23,070 --> 00:26:28,470 the voter. And your target is to talk to the voter to say what be 410 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,420 okay with not being engaged. 411 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,090 Exactly. Sounds like a strategy 412 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,030 that she needs to talk to the candidates to help them engage 413 00:26:42,030 --> 00:26:47,580 the voters know. We're going to target the voters. That's a head 414 00:26:47,580 --> 00:26:50,370 scratcher. All right. 415 00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:53,310 So there's, there's money running around. There's this 416 00:26:53,310 --> 00:26:57,240 operation. That's the head scratcher. That's like, how does 417 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,590 that work? That's cool. 418 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,100 It's given me a lot. It's what's that? What's the word? Where's 419 00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:07,440 the word with this podcast when it comes to the black voting? 420 00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:09,600 Activate? 421 00:27:09,630 --> 00:27:12,510 Oh, of course, activate. Yep. And that's 422 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,560 the one that's what she told me engage. She didn't using gay she 423 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,760 didn't use activate. But that's what she said engaging. You go 424 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,150 activate the voter not changed the candidate not talk to them 425 00:27:24,150 --> 00:27:28,350 about policies that could motivate the voter. You go 426 00:27:28,350 --> 00:27:37,110 activate the voter. So Black millennial for? 427 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,360 Yeah. Are there any candidates specifically, so far that you 428 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:46,410 think are actually doing a good job in connecting with young 429 00:27:46,410 --> 00:27:48,060 black voters in particular? 430 00:27:48,660 --> 00:27:51,930 Well, we've definitely seen strides made in the last 431 00:27:51,930 --> 00:27:54,660 election presidential election cycle, it was enough for a 432 00:27:54,660 --> 00:27:58,290 Democratic candidate just to say black lives matter. What folks 433 00:27:58,290 --> 00:28:02,370 are really looking for this cycle is more depth, a plan and 434 00:28:02,370 --> 00:28:06,960 a policy agenda that actually moves beyond just criminal 435 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,590 justice reform, and addresses some of the economic justice 436 00:28:10,590 --> 00:28:14,790 concerns that we have. And so there are a number of candidates 437 00:28:14,790 --> 00:28:18,630 that we believe are taking that seriously. Mayor Pete with his 438 00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:24,000 Douglass plan. Senator Warren has been talking specifically 439 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,750 about income inequality, and problems with housing 440 00:28:27,780 --> 00:28:31,590 gentrification, that we think are very important to black 441 00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:35,730 voters. Senator Booker, even Marianne Williamson on the 442 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,990 democratic national debate stage, has been really proposing 443 00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:43,170 solutions that black folks want to hear. 444 00:28:43,620 --> 00:28:46,920 Okay. I had not heard of the Douglass plan yet. 445 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,250 Yes. So that's a male peaks. 446 00:28:52,770 --> 00:28:54,300 It's very inside baseball. 447 00:28:55,410 --> 00:29:00,090 Right? I watch that clip. That's not from me. That is not from 448 00:29:00,090 --> 00:29:02,520 me. That's what Young Turks 449 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,830 The Young Turks was it must have been, 450 00:29:05,340 --> 00:29:07,980 I think it's called that isn't the crawl or what is the thing 451 00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:08,370 called 452 00:29:08,370 --> 00:29:10,080 the lower third, Lower Third, 453 00:29:10,110 --> 00:29:14,310 the lower third, they actually had and I sent it screenshot to 454 00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:19,320 Adam for verification, actually called the man mail. 455 00:29:21,540 --> 00:29:24,840 The our was a misspelling, we think? 456 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:33,600 No. They hate that. They hate pee over there. 457 00:29:33,989 --> 00:29:36,629 That that's pretty racist. 458 00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:41,550 Very, very, very good. But I'm just showing you hilarious 459 00:29:41,550 --> 00:29:41,880 though. 460 00:29:42,479 --> 00:29:49,019 Once again, liberals, they will use racist terms before they use 461 00:29:49,049 --> 00:29:53,339 the Koon. Yay. And now they're attacking Pete. With the mayo 462 00:29:53,339 --> 00:29:53,669 Pete. 463 00:29:53,699 --> 00:29:56,069 You know, we're recording this in the evening. For the first 464 00:29:56,069 --> 00:29:58,559 time in the history of the show. I think we're a great late night 465 00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:01,199 show mo we could be live coast to coast with this. This is 466 00:30:01,199 --> 00:30:05,939 hilarious. Let me read, clear read Pete from Pete for America. 467 00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:09,509 This is the Douglass plan with a double S, the decisions we make 468 00:30:09,509 --> 00:30:11,579 the next four years will determine America's path for the 469 00:30:11,579 --> 00:30:14,729 next 40. And a great deal of the progress he make on everything 470 00:30:14,729 --> 00:30:17,729 from increasing economic freedom to confronting climate 471 00:30:18,089 --> 00:30:21,029 disruption will depend on whether we tackle racially 472 00:30:21,089 --> 00:30:24,719 racial inequality in our lifetime. For all our countries 473 00:30:24,719 --> 00:30:28,589 forward movement, black people capital B in America are still 474 00:30:28,589 --> 00:30:32,129 disproportionately excluded from systems of social protection, 475 00:30:32,309 --> 00:30:36,809 economic uplift, Lou, I think I think that's kind of that comes 476 00:30:36,809 --> 00:30:41,519 close to the rising tide and and representative democracy while 477 00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:46,799 facing shorter lifespans, lower educational attainment and 478 00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:50,459 dramatic over criminalization and incarceration compared to 479 00:30:50,459 --> 00:30:56,759 their white counterparts. And, and so this plan is inspired on 480 00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:02,639 Frederick Douglass and comparable in scale to the 481 00:31:02,639 --> 00:31:06,479 Marshall Plan. Sounds like reparations to me. 482 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:16,110 Maybe but the problem that Mayor Pete has, he's no good. You use 483 00:31:16,770 --> 00:31:20,130 besides not me, but you saw you saw how they came after him. 484 00:31:20,550 --> 00:31:27,720 Over the what was the article from the root MF for or got the 485 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,680 title? Yeah, I mean, no, no, he's no good. 486 00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:37,380 He's what? He's also known as Wall Street Pete I mean, the guy 487 00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:41,850 definitely. He's, he's faced, as far as I understand. He is a 488 00:31:41,850 --> 00:31:45,240 candidate has flown on more private aircraft than anyone 489 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,330 else. And yet, and so he's not paying for out of his own 490 00:31:48,330 --> 00:31:53,340 pocket. And he's a Rhodes Scholar. In addition, I think 491 00:31:53,340 --> 00:31:56,790 he's a spook. I think he's the CIA candidate. I really do. 492 00:31:57,570 --> 00:32:00,150 Yeah, he's meeting me wine cellars. It's like, what what 493 00:32:00,150 --> 00:32:01,350 are you doing to beat me? 494 00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:05,640 That's what I mean. It's like, where's my invite Pete? Alright, 495 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,180 mayo. 496 00:32:06,210 --> 00:32:10,500 So she, she brought up Mary and weaves. And we talked about Miss 497 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:14,310 Mary Ann on the show before. Yep. And she said, her 498 00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:21,540 solutions, boom. Interesting word to say solutions. I wonder 499 00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:26,190 what word you were avoiding to say? Let millennial farm? 500 00:32:26,489 --> 00:32:29,159 You know, I'm curious on that last point, because she was 501 00:32:29,159 --> 00:32:32,999 someone that did get quite a bit of attention when talking about 502 00:32:32,999 --> 00:32:36,659 the issue of reparations specifically, is that what 503 00:32:36,659 --> 00:32:39,119 you're referencing when you talk about Marianne Williamson? 504 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:44,190 Nice? Yes, we can. We saw from the debate stage that a lot of 505 00:32:44,190 --> 00:32:47,700 the work that movements have done over the past several years 506 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:51,240 have entered into the debate. And so yes, black voters and 507 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,470 black millennials, especially, are looking for candidates that 508 00:32:55,470 --> 00:33:00,510 speak explicitly to closing the black income gap, the black 509 00:33:00,510 --> 00:33:04,530 wealth gap. And so folks have been at least in movement spaces 510 00:33:04,530 --> 00:33:08,520 really excited to see that specific issue raised, raised to 511 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,140 a national profile this election. 512 00:33:11,370 --> 00:33:14,040 was the last time you were in one of the movement spaces. 513 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,990 And she really didn't want to say that the R word. 514 00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:21,480 No, of course not. She just said a whole bunch of stuff. 515 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:25,650 She rehearsed that solutions. Yeah. Mary Ann has solutions. I 516 00:33:25,650 --> 00:33:26,070 mean, 517 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:29,130 I'm Marianne Williamson who and I don't know if she's still 518 00:33:29,130 --> 00:33:34,740 running, and I don't think she's officially dropped. I like her, 519 00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:37,200 you know, I liked a lot of what she said and she didn't quite 520 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,200 get there. But she put a number on the table, you know, $400 521 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:40,500 million. 522 00:33:42,420 --> 00:33:44,670 Use the word. She used the word 523 00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:46,980 but then you know, then she was kind of like and then we need a 524 00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:50,070 committee and it's like, wow, wow. 525 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,540 I give credit where credit's due she did use the word Michelle 526 00:33:54,540 --> 00:33:59,400 unabashedly. She pushed back against Don Lemon when he was 527 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,340 like how do you get how you calculate that number 528 00:34:02,370 --> 00:34:05,910 but from a from a from a television and advertising 529 00:34:05,910 --> 00:34:09,210 executive standpoint, once you did the talking in tongues in 530 00:34:09,210 --> 00:34:10,800 the church it was all over for 531 00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:20,550 they could use that for great ratings though. That would spice 532 00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:20,760 up 533 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,800 the show. The show? No. No it because they wanted to get rid 534 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,740 of her so bad in particular Fox News which I don't understand 535 00:34:28,740 --> 00:34:32,370 why because I think she's interesting. They were like, oh, 536 00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:35,790 it looks crazy. And then you know, MSNBC. Oh, what's going on 537 00:34:35,790 --> 00:34:39,450 here the Marianas crazy. You created a bit crazy. And that 538 00:34:39,450 --> 00:34:39,660 was 539 00:34:40,380 --> 00:34:43,500 she's talking about reparations and giving cash. You know, like, 540 00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:46,500 we got to get her out of here but she got that's but if you 541 00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:47,490 look at look, if you look 542 00:34:47,489 --> 00:34:50,909 at survivor or Big Brother, you gotta have one crazy one. You 543 00:34:50,909 --> 00:34:53,849 got to keep them around for a bit. You don't kick them off the 544 00:34:53,849 --> 00:34:55,049 island right away. 545 00:34:55,860 --> 00:35:01,500 If you talk in that crazy, you gotta go okay. cuz she was 546 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:06,330 pulled a new way to the dark side planning to do this. Oh, 547 00:35:07,050 --> 00:35:10,290 true. They were like, no, no, we're talking about Yeah, you 548 00:35:10,290 --> 00:35:15,150 can't be doing you can't be doing that. We will have a 549 00:35:15,150 --> 00:35:18,060 meeting for our meeting, which would that's what HR 40 was, 550 00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:20,340 what got my meeting? That's about a meeting. 551 00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:24,660 Whatever came out of that HR 41. We were supposed to have the 552 00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:26,010 next meeting. And where 553 00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:29,700 you tell me, you tell me, Adam, 554 00:35:30,510 --> 00:35:33,120 I don't know impeachment, Trump, but that's all I know. 555 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,780 So, now we're going out to black voters are a central part of the 556 00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:44,490 Democratic primary. This is MSNBC. And this is our from the 557 00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:48,660 roots. Jason Johnson. 558 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,230 Oh, well, Biden is comfortable. Biden is someone that people 559 00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:54,870 know and also and I've I've done it a lot these numbers myself, a 560 00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:58,170 lot of this is about age. Older black voters love them some Joe 561 00:35:58,170 --> 00:36:00,660 Biden because they're like, Okay, he was with Barack Obama. 562 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,260 And all we want is Trump out of office, the younger voters, 563 00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:05,160 millennials. 564 00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:09,600 Is that how older black people talk? Mo that's the I love me 565 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,870 some Joe Biden is that literally a caricature? This guy is doing 566 00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:17,940 just fine. It was NBC, 567 00:36:19,170 --> 00:36:21,270 like Fred Sanford, all of a sudden, okay. 568 00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:25,140 Well, we want his trump out of office, the younger voters, 569 00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:28,470 millennials, and Generation X, like myself, often wants 570 00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:30,870 something more often don't think that Joe Biden is going to be 571 00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:32,970 transformative enough. And so the issue that he's going to 572 00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:36,120 have is sort of the reverse of Bernie Sanders and 2016, Bernie 573 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,520 Sanders got young black voters couldn't get anybody over the 574 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,760 age of 30. Right. Basically, Joe Biden's got to figure out a way 575 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,240 to get younger African Americans to believe in Him to understand 576 00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:48,360 that he's made changes since the 1994 crime bill. And then he 577 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,370 actually has to have a comprehensive on the ground 578 00:36:50,370 --> 00:36:52,680 plan, which very few people except for Cory Booker talked 579 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,230 about, of how you're going to fight voter suppression, because 580 00:36:55,260 --> 00:36:58,140 even if you've got black people supporting you, if they can't 581 00:36:58,140 --> 00:37:00,870 get to the polls, or their votes don't count, you're not going to 582 00:37:00,870 --> 00:37:03,240 be successful. And that's something that I think if you've 583 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:05,850 got 53% of African Americans saying we support you, you 584 00:37:05,850 --> 00:37:08,220 should try and find a way for them to actually get their cast 585 00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:10,470 a vote. Okay, 586 00:37:10,829 --> 00:37:14,579 do we get to talk about this for a second about the black voter 587 00:37:14,579 --> 00:37:15,359 suppression? 588 00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:21,840 No, not really. Because I to be honest with you, that's so low 589 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,430 on the list. I mean, it's really isn't a real thing, MO. Because 590 00:37:26,430 --> 00:37:30,930 of voter ID driver's license. Yes. You know, we as black 591 00:37:30,930 --> 00:37:34,440 folks, we have trouble getting driver's license our IDs. 592 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,800 This is true. That's not true. 593 00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:41,850 No, no, that's not true. But now the meme. That's the that's the 594 00:37:41,850 --> 00:37:45,900 meme. Yeah, you know, when they have problems getting IDs, it's 595 00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:46,110 like 596 00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:57,930 it's so insulting. How come? I never hear any black person say, 597 00:37:58,349 --> 00:38:02,759 That's stupid? That's insulting. They don't give us the mic. 598 00:38:02,879 --> 00:38:06,239 You're hearing it now that you give me a $27. Mic. Now you're 599 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:06,659 hearing me. 600 00:38:07,890 --> 00:38:10,020 And you know, buddy, sounds like a $30. Mic. 601 00:38:10,620 --> 00:38:12,390 And no macular 602 00:38:14,010 --> 00:38:17,400 onward. Okay. Okay. No, I'll just set it straight. Because we 603 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,740 know no one ever stops and mentions that. And so what is 604 00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:24,090 this voter suppression? And it's literally, it's literally Well, 605 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,570 you know, it's hard for them to determine if you have voter ID 606 00:38:27,570 --> 00:38:29,430 laws that suppression like, okay. 607 00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:35,940 Just for a little background, Mr. Jason. I keep Jason Johnson. 608 00:38:36,090 --> 00:38:39,630 He was he was one of the he found the root. And he was one 609 00:38:39,630 --> 00:38:43,890 of the Russian botters. Just to give you context, he was a 610 00:38:43,890 --> 00:38:47,370 Russian bot. Okay, I guess. So. This is why you This is why 611 00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:51,930 you're here. These people are when you see them on MSNBC or 612 00:38:51,930 --> 00:38:57,240 NBC or whatever, major outlet. They are toeing the party line. 613 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,150 No kidding. Go talk to the voter. 614 00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:02,520 He's a professor to the candidate. He's a professor of 615 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,750 political science. 616 00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:09,120 They will always slip to go to Eclipse to go go talk to the 617 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,180 voter, not talk to the candidate. I mean, we do we see 618 00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:19,200 what's going on here. We do. So yeah, so is of the same ilk. Is 619 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,620 this next lady? I didn't get her name, I think is Donna. Yeah, 620 00:39:22,620 --> 00:39:25,530 I mean, this is where you come to this question of younger 621 00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:28,800 voters who really think in terms of intersections, they don't 622 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,650 just think about, you know, sort of Where's the guy who's been 623 00:39:31,650 --> 00:39:35,820 with a black guy. And and I think that that provides an 624 00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:39,780 opportunity for a lot of the other candidates to eat in there 625 00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:42,810 and turn that vote out. I mean, that that vote basically didn't 626 00:39:42,810 --> 00:39:46,980 really show up in 2016. And this is a real opportunity. And the 627 00:39:46,980 --> 00:39:49,890 other thing is, you know, for Joe Biden, he's going to start 628 00:39:49,890 --> 00:39:53,100 looking at what he's doing and saying, What am I going to do to 629 00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:56,220 try to energize and galvanize this vote but I look at some of 630 00:39:56,220 --> 00:39:59,340 these candidates who are putting out proposals that will be 631 00:39:59,370 --> 00:40:03,840 really appealing to that, those younger voters and so I see that 632 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,640 as an opportunity to to grow. And you know 633 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,280 when when Donna says those voters stayed home in 2016, the 634 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,660 consequences of staying home in 2016 was Donald Trump. And I 635 00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:15,300 think that this is again another indication of voters being 636 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:18,570 realistic about the consequences of not using their vote 637 00:40:18,570 --> 00:40:19,080 properly. 638 00:40:22,889 --> 00:40:27,389 You know what? I have an idea Joe will attract the young black 639 00:40:27,389 --> 00:40:30,779 Millennials by calling it the mullah. No malarkey tour. 640 00:40:31,229 --> 00:40:34,109 That'll work. Joe, 641 00:40:35,099 --> 00:40:38,789 Joe has his berrio Boomer does tell me what he's struggling 642 00:40:38,789 --> 00:40:44,519 with IE struggling with the millennials. No, it is. And and 643 00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:48,119 Bernie Sanders me he has the black millennial vote. They 644 00:40:48,359 --> 00:40:54,449 obviously they love Bernie Sanders. I mean, he's a icon or, 645 00:40:55,019 --> 00:41:02,339 or, you know, this ideal candidate for for what they 646 00:41:02,339 --> 00:41:03,269 believe. Well, if 647 00:41:03,329 --> 00:41:06,209 he's promising a lot of free stuff, that's always good. 648 00:41:06,990 --> 00:41:11,550 Yes. Free stuff. He always is a good thing. But what about what 649 00:41:11,550 --> 00:41:12,900 about these back? Andrew 650 00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:15,120 Yang is got something really tangible. 651 00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:20,310 I mean, for everybody? $1,000 a month? Yes. That math problem, 652 00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:20,700 sir. 653 00:41:22,650 --> 00:41:24,870 I mean, how to pay for it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. 654 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,010 So, yeah. And, and they don't like it. I don't know why they 655 00:41:29,010 --> 00:41:35,610 don't like Yang. I really don't. I mean, he seems like he seems 656 00:41:35,610 --> 00:41:39,810 like a good candidate to get behind. But they want to push 657 00:41:39,810 --> 00:41:43,290 Biden. Yeah. No, no, no. I mean, he's, he's no good for the 658 00:41:43,290 --> 00:41:47,160 party. He's just now No, no, no. If you don't think so? No, I 659 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,250 don't know if the party doesn't want him. No, no, no, no. He's 660 00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:54,780 Sneaky. Sneaky, still snow Silicon Valley. Sneaky. And 661 00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:59,610 ALCAR. By and by sneaky. I mean, he wants a value added tax. And 662 00:41:59,610 --> 00:42:03,330 he says we can do half what Europe is okay. Europe is 21% 663 00:42:03,330 --> 00:42:06,660 for everything you buy in the store at 21%. To that, and 664 00:42:06,660 --> 00:42:08,820 you're going to pay for that right then and there. Because 665 00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:12,840 well, we can do with half. Yeah, I know. I remember when value 666 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,680 added tax was 12%. In Europe, and then I remember when it was 667 00:42:17,250 --> 00:42:24,510 15 and 1718, then 18 and 19. And now 21. So now 668 00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:26,160 that's why I love doing the show with you. 669 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,940 It's sneaky. It's it's sneaky. So that's, that's not gonna 670 00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:30,060 hurt. 671 00:42:30,060 --> 00:42:33,360 So he had the same problem now. Elizabeth Warren Harris has, 672 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:34,170 yeah, but she, 673 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:39,090 she just, you know, he's easily says it. And Elizabeth Warren, 674 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,210 he's like, No, I'm not going to tell you about the tax part. 675 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:45,300 Your cost will go down. She's telling you how to how to 676 00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:48,210 calculate your taxes to have now she blew it on that? 677 00:42:48,210 --> 00:42:53,250 I think so. So for the first portion of the show, I think we 678 00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:58,020 clearly identify why the black vote is so coveted. And why so 679 00:42:58,020 --> 00:43:02,010 important to whoever the winner or loser is going to be in 2020. 680 00:43:02,250 --> 00:43:05,220 So we always have to go back. Well, hold on. 681 00:43:05,249 --> 00:43:10,079 Can't we just call in Jay Z and Beyonce? Can't they brand new 682 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:10,829 black vote? 683 00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:16,410 Didn't work in 2016 they had they had Lebron James. Jay Z, 684 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,970 Beyonce chance to rapper all that Hillary Clinton's like, I 685 00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:25,290 think like two days before or a day before the election. No 686 00:43:25,290 --> 00:43:25,800 dice. 687 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,420 John led to didn't have John Legend to 688 00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:41,160 John Legere is always on call. For the guy, you call Hello. Was 689 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:49,170 I needed? So they have everybody but the younger voters. I'm 690 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:54,780 smarter. And it's transactional now right? And you can't come 691 00:43:54,780 --> 00:44:00,750 with wooden nickels anymore. And these promises of rainbows and 692 00:44:01,170 --> 00:44:04,500 glitter and all this. Me Yeah, you don't understand what I'm 693 00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:07,740 saying? But like this foot that warm? fuzzies Oh, yeah, you're 694 00:44:07,740 --> 00:44:10,770 gonna you're gonna feel great after you vote for what are you 695 00:44:10,770 --> 00:44:14,340 putting on the table? Right? Not only are the millennials asking 696 00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:19,680 that the good portion of the black male vote is asking the 697 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,840 same thing. What are you going to put on the table? So now this 698 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,620 is why we had had a conversation on previous shows what who 699 00:44:28,620 --> 00:44:35,610 they're targeting when women because they can say this is a 700 00:44:35,610 --> 00:44:38,430 first for you. We can have a first black woman we can have a 701 00:44:38,430 --> 00:44:42,510 first black woman, female vice president you know that kind of 702 00:44:42,510 --> 00:44:45,150 thing. Right? You know, it's there's still a first there 703 00:44:45,450 --> 00:44:49,320 after Brock Obama like, it's there's no there's no more, you 704 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,130 know, and I 705 00:44:50,130 --> 00:44:52,680 think it's pretty well established that the general 706 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,220 thinking within the Democrat Party is whatever whatever white 707 00:44:56,220 --> 00:44:59,970 guy is nominated. It's going to be Stacey Abrams, who is vice 708 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,770 President candidate pay has 709 00:45:01,769 --> 00:45:03,209 to be pretty 710 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,589 universally known. Yeah. 711 00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:10,619 So now we have to go back and talk about the history of voting 712 00:45:10,649 --> 00:45:14,249 on voting rights. And this is according to The New York Times, 713 00:45:14,429 --> 00:45:17,879 in this scene from the 2012 movie know why Abraham Lincoln 714 00:45:17,879 --> 00:45:20,489 spells out the terms of reconstruction are all 715 00:45:20,490 --> 00:45:24,180 they heard was the first time any President has ever made 716 00:45:24,180 --> 00:45:26,250 mention of Negro voting? 717 00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:30,840 In 1865, he said freed slaves who were intelligent, or it 718 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,470 served as soldiers should be allowed to vote. The 14th 719 00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:39,120 amendment passed in 1868, guaranteed this right as part of 720 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:44,340 the full citizenship accorded to African American man. But for 721 00:45:44,340 --> 00:45:47,910 much of the 20th century, voting remained a contentious issue. 722 00:45:48,210 --> 00:45:52,560 The 19th amendment, ratified in 1920, gave women the right to 723 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,960 vote, but the racial divide remain. 724 00:45:58,949 --> 00:46:01,109 I'd love that you pull these clips, that's great. 725 00:46:02,130 --> 00:46:08,520 So what I'm setting up here is why the boomers feel the 726 00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:13,860 obligation to vote. Because they're closer to the neck to 727 00:46:13,860 --> 00:46:13,980 two 728 00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:17,340 to history yet to the historical struggle, of course, yeah, 729 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,860 they actually, you know, 60s, they were there were the 730 00:46:22,860 --> 00:46:26,670 Millennials don't have that context. And it's like, I wasn't 731 00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:29,220 there, you know, I've always had the right to vote. So I'm going 732 00:46:29,220 --> 00:46:34,680 to be more callous selective with my more selective with my 733 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:39,270 vote, whereas the boomers say you have to vote, you have to 734 00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:41,190 vote. And this is not something 735 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,950 this is a this is a critical thing to understand. Because 736 00:46:47,490 --> 00:46:50,490 this is only just before I was born now, just as I was born, 737 00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:54,720 you know, really, when a lot of these things came into play. But 738 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:59,100 even if you go back two generations, you're so right. 739 00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:03,300 Black Americans have not had this right. And it's fresh. 740 00:47:06,510 --> 00:47:10,620 Just a personal, personal anecdote, if you think about it, 741 00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:16,500 my dad, right, he was born in 51. So like he was able to vote 742 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:24,090 in the very end of the 60s. His dad may have been heckled or 743 00:47:24,780 --> 00:47:28,560 able to struggle for him to vote, right? So when they have 744 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,340 that conversation between those two, it's like, Yes, from my 745 00:47:32,370 --> 00:47:35,400 grandfather to my father, son, you have to vote because we just 746 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,550 got this right. You have to keep keep the ball rolling. And where 747 00:47:38,550 --> 00:47:43,590 as with the conversation, say between me and my dad, he's 748 00:47:43,620 --> 00:47:47,040 always pretty much had the right to vote. I've always had the 749 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,380 right to vote. So now it's about 750 00:47:50,340 --> 00:47:52,920 what are we going to do with it? Right, exactly. 751 00:47:53,369 --> 00:47:57,749 And what we what are we willing to do? If we don't have our 752 00:47:57,749 --> 00:48:02,459 demands are met. And it's hard for my dad to say No, I won't 753 00:48:02,459 --> 00:48:06,629 vote. I understand that. That makes total sense. So this is 754 00:48:06,629 --> 00:48:10,079 why Joe Biden's Boomer numbers. That's why I say Boomer, you're 755 00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:13,499 saying tongue in cheek, but this is why his numbers are so high 756 00:48:13,499 --> 00:48:17,639 with black age group. Yeah. And this is why they're struggling 757 00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:20,369 with the black millennial. Well, let's get into history of the 758 00:48:20,579 --> 00:48:21,629 voting rights to 759 00:48:21,870 --> 00:48:25,260 some states continue to limit voting, either through measures 760 00:48:25,260 --> 00:48:29,070 like the poll tax or direct intimidation of African American 761 00:48:29,070 --> 00:48:33,480 voters. In the south. There were even whites only primaries. 762 00:48:41,489 --> 00:48:45,239 This is Sam Tanenhaus of The New York Times. The first modern 763 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:50,429 Civil Rights Act was signed by President Eisenhower in 1957. It 764 00:48:50,429 --> 00:48:54,059 created a federal commission authorized to enforce voting 765 00:48:54,059 --> 00:48:58,109 rights. Senator Strom Thurmond conducted the longest filibuster 766 00:48:58,109 --> 00:49:02,669 in history more than 24 hours in an effort to thwart the bill but 767 00:49:02,669 --> 00:49:05,609 it passed the location for the meeting with Senator Ribbeck 768 00:49:05,609 --> 00:49:09,839 still voting was not equal for all massive resistance in the 769 00:49:09,839 --> 00:49:14,069 deep south was organized to keep blacks from the polls and legal 770 00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:16,979 enforcement was hampered by all white jury. 771 00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:25,920 This is why I get so hurt about modern day voter suppression 772 00:49:25,980 --> 00:49:30,810 quote unquote voter suppression, right. When people will my 773 00:49:30,810 --> 00:49:34,800 grandfather's age could have been be in even their lives 774 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:41,280 taken for going to vote. They were made to pay payroll taxes 775 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,710 they were made to take literacy test. Even things is asinine is 776 00:49:46,860 --> 00:49:54,960 how many like jelly beans in a jar kind of things. So when you 777 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,970 say modern day voter suppression is like when you equate those 778 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,850 Who thinks it's so disrespectful? Yeah. To the 779 00:50:02,850 --> 00:50:04,620 older black voters? 780 00:50:05,099 --> 00:50:11,699 Yes. And to think that one or two generations after that would 781 00:50:11,699 --> 00:50:15,509 care so little that they can't even figure out how to get an ID 782 00:50:15,509 --> 00:50:15,899 card? 783 00:50:17,429 --> 00:50:20,249 Or to check to make sure you're still on the roll. I mean, if 784 00:50:20,249 --> 00:50:23,699 we're saying is, right, it's so important to us. Right, right. 785 00:50:23,699 --> 00:50:27,239 Right. Going down to wherever City Hall and and make sure 786 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,509 you're on the rolls and getting your ID and make sure, of 787 00:50:30,509 --> 00:50:34,229 course, we've we know, gerrymander happenings. And they 788 00:50:34,229 --> 00:50:37,169 play with the voter rolls on both sides. I mean, this 789 00:50:37,169 --> 00:50:41,609 happens. Yeah. But if you say voting is so important to you, 790 00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:46,199 as a right, just doing those small checks to make sure you 791 00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:49,109 have that right to exercise it, even if you write yourself in 792 00:50:49,139 --> 00:50:52,859 whatever, you would think you would take it more seriously, 793 00:50:52,859 --> 00:50:55,439 but these people come along and say, oh, yeah, it's voter 794 00:50:55,439 --> 00:50:59,969 suppression. Dude, that is so it is just a smack in the face to 795 00:50:59,969 --> 00:51:04,319 the people two or three generations ago that really 796 00:51:05,549 --> 00:51:10,139 whose vote was suppressed? Yeah. So I mean, that that irks me, 797 00:51:10,139 --> 00:51:12,119 and that's why I didn't address the voter suppression thing 798 00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:12,689 until I got 799 00:51:13,889 --> 00:51:16,409 it. It's one of those things that people just talk about, 800 00:51:16,409 --> 00:51:20,489 just like you say, vote, voter suppression. It's like saying 801 00:51:20,789 --> 00:51:25,799 comprehensive immigration reform. It's meaningless. common 802 00:51:25,799 --> 00:51:29,129 sense gun laws, I can go on forever. It's like it's 803 00:51:29,129 --> 00:51:31,349 meaningless. It's completely meaningless. 804 00:51:32,250 --> 00:51:40,320 When a set is said to invoke a certain mind picture of course, 805 00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:44,670 course white cop standing there, you know, blocking the polls. 806 00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:46,380 How many jellybeans? 807 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,510 Right, he's that? That was really mean like read read this, 808 00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:54,630 you know? That's not what happened now. But then when they 809 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:59,820 equate the two people 810 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:04,680 I will continue to call this out when I see it. Please do. Thank 811 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,130 you, sir. Okay. Oh, history of the voting voting rights. Part 812 00:52:08,130 --> 00:52:08,460 Three. 813 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,520 Voting Rights became a central issue in the civil rights 814 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:11,970 movement. 815 00:52:12,060 --> 00:52:17,430 I think this March will go down as one of the greatest 816 00:52:17,489 --> 00:52:21,869 in 1965 The Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. led the march 817 00:52:21,869 --> 00:52:26,639 from Selma to Montgomery for better voting laws. The nation 818 00:52:26,639 --> 00:52:29,939 was shocked by images of the marchers being attacked. And 819 00:52:29,939 --> 00:52:33,479 less than five months later, President Lyndon Johnson signed 820 00:52:33,479 --> 00:52:38,459 the Voting Rights Act of 1965. It barred states and districts 821 00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:42,209 from curtailing the vote on the basis of race, color or 822 00:52:42,209 --> 00:52:42,869 language. 823 00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:50,369 It is wrong, deadly wrong to deny any of your fellow 824 00:52:50,369 --> 00:52:54,629 Americans the right to vote in this country. 825 00:52:55,530 --> 00:52:58,860 Sections four and five of the bill included special provisions 826 00:52:58,860 --> 00:53:02,730 to ensure fair voting practices in a number of states, most of 827 00:53:02,730 --> 00:53:07,800 them in the South. Voting Rights Advocates say some citizens 828 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,250 there continue to be disenfranchised. But the Supreme 829 00:53:11,250 --> 00:53:15,060 Court's close ruling on Tuesday, striking down section four 830 00:53:15,090 --> 00:53:19,350 suggests that conditions have changed since 1965. And it is 831 00:53:19,350 --> 00:53:21,390 left to Congress to reconsider the 832 00:53:21,389 --> 00:53:27,089 act. Yep. There it is, again, yep, voted right still 833 00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:32,399 disenfranchise. So I mean, so this goes from the history of 834 00:53:32,399 --> 00:53:36,719 the voting rights. And it starts at the end of that last clip 835 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:42,569 starts to bleed over to explain why the majority of black voters 836 00:53:43,229 --> 00:53:44,669 are Democrats 837 00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:54,150 probably have to go back over a century to start begin telling 838 00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:57,540 the story, right? African Americans start out when they 839 00:53:57,540 --> 00:54:02,100 become essentially franchised? No, they do so because of the 840 00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:06,030 Civil War and Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation, and 841 00:54:06,030 --> 00:54:10,530 therefore, African Americans, sort of, by default, become 842 00:54:10,530 --> 00:54:13,260 Republicans, because that is the party of emancipation. The 843 00:54:13,260 --> 00:54:16,770 Republican Party, while it's in favor of emancipation, is not 844 00:54:16,770 --> 00:54:21,180 really a natural place to put African Americans, especially as 845 00:54:21,180 --> 00:54:24,660 the as the Republican party goes through the late 1800s, early 846 00:54:24,660 --> 00:54:28,290 1900s, and goes through some sort of realignments inside 847 00:54:28,290 --> 00:54:32,100 itself and turns away from a possible progressive move with 848 00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:35,640 Theodore Roosevelt and becomes increasingly in the early 20th 849 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,120 century, more of the party of white collar business interests, 850 00:54:39,150 --> 00:54:39,720 upper class 851 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,529 interest. Well, that's one way to explain it. 852 00:54:43,860 --> 00:54:48,240 One quick question, sir. Do you hear me ring my bell? Yeah, I 853 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:50,880 heard you laugh a little bit in the background. Yeah. What do 854 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,610 you think are rang my bell? I just want to 855 00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:56,910 start off with the church starts off with a church right away. 856 00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:00,809 It's the same exact song. These are Two different news 857 00:55:00,809 --> 00:55:05,399 organizations. Yeah. The first set of three clips was the New 858 00:55:05,399 --> 00:55:10,679 York Times. This clip is a set of clips from newsy. And they 859 00:55:10,709 --> 00:55:13,139 all use the same song. Which 860 00:55:13,139 --> 00:55:16,109 song is it, though? We share? Oh, 861 00:55:17,310 --> 00:55:21,570 yes. It's like a Mind Control trigger. I mean, I'm being I'm 862 00:55:21,570 --> 00:55:22,080 being 863 00:55:22,589 --> 00:55:26,609 No, serious. No, I hear you, because immediately caught me. I 864 00:55:26,609 --> 00:55:29,129 heard it. I heard you ring the bell. And I didn't even hear 865 00:55:29,129 --> 00:55:31,079 what song I was like, Oh, I get it. I know where I 866 00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:37,979 am. It's like a portal to take you back to the Civil Rights 867 00:55:37,979 --> 00:55:38,339 time, 868 00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:41,940 then he didn't need to throw an amazing grace in there too, 869 00:55:41,940 --> 00:55:42,870 though, once in a while. 870 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,650 Now, is this where we should overcome? That's that's the 871 00:55:46,650 --> 00:55:51,300 mean. That's the shell. Yep. Yeah. And like I said, The New 872 00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:55,500 York Times use the same exact song so that they're aware 873 00:55:55,530 --> 00:56:01,050 they're doing this as a trigger, to trigger these emotions. And 874 00:56:01,050 --> 00:56:04,530 that's what they want. They want emotional votes. They don't want 875 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,470 educated votes, they want emotional votes. But 876 00:56:08,070 --> 00:56:11,670 this is this is who this is. This is political campaigning, 877 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:17,400 in general is always playing at the emotions, of course, and of 878 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,880 course, and we and we buy our we vote for our politicians just 879 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,300 like we buy our washing powder, as well as less, as long as the 880 00:56:24,300 --> 00:56:26,190 message repeated a lot, then we get into it. 881 00:56:28,770 --> 00:56:33,540 I agree I agree with it. So majority two, 882 00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:37,560 but now you get African Americans moving into the north 883 00:56:37,590 --> 00:56:42,030 where they can vote and they begin to find the appeal of 884 00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:45,300 Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal very attractive, they begin 885 00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:49,020 increasingly to identify with the Democratic Party doesn't 886 00:56:49,020 --> 00:56:51,960 happen overnight. Right. Partisan attachments take a 887 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,310 while to erode during the late 30s and early 40s and late 40s, 888 00:56:56,340 --> 00:57:00,450 to turn from a party that had been held hostage to state 889 00:57:00,450 --> 00:57:03,240 rights in the South to one that was willing to embrace civil 890 00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:07,320 rights. You see that and the behavior of Arias Truman, right, 891 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,600 who's going to integrate the armed services by executive 892 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,680 order. And after World War Two, you see that in the 1948 893 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,680 Democratic Convention, then Senator Hubert Humphrey from 894 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,560 Minnesota gets up and says it's time for us to walk out of the 895 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,770 shadows states rights into the bright sunshine of civil rights. 896 00:57:22,890 --> 00:57:25,980 At the same time, the Republican Party is struggling with its 897 00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:30,600 history of emancipation and civil rights. You get someone 898 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,950 like Dwight Eisenhower, who says that integration desegregation 899 00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:36,090 should go slow. 900 00:57:37,650 --> 00:57:39,600 Okay, that was 48. 901 00:57:40,829 --> 00:57:45,749 Yes. So there's two things that they attributed to, as of right 902 00:57:45,749 --> 00:57:53,009 now pre civil rights that have made blacks majority Democrats, 903 00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:58,319 one being the the New Deal, FERS New Deal, right. And then the 904 00:57:58,319 --> 00:58:02,639 integration of the armed services during World War Two. 905 00:58:03,539 --> 00:58:10,589 Got it? Those are the two things pre Civil War. So and then they 906 00:58:10,589 --> 00:58:15,029 say with the Eisenhower, he said that integration needs to go 907 00:58:15,029 --> 00:58:19,799 slow. Yeah. Which I've discussed this before on my show, I am not 908 00:58:19,799 --> 00:58:28,049 a fan of forced integration. Oh, and governmental or schools or 909 00:58:28,049 --> 00:58:28,979 things that nature? 910 00:58:29,130 --> 00:58:31,740 And I don't, I think historically, that's turned out 911 00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:32,880 not to be a super 912 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:39,960 great idea. No, and I do speak personally. My dad had to leave 913 00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:44,790 all black school in his senior year, and was forced to go to 914 00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:51,660 integrated school. And he hated the surprise. Yeah. So forced 915 00:58:51,690 --> 00:58:55,980 and not taken up for Eisenhower. I'm just saying. That is I think 916 00:58:55,980 --> 00:59:00,840 that's more popular belief or more popular sentiment that 917 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:07,230 people want to let on when you use 2020 hindsight vision. Yeah, 918 00:59:07,230 --> 00:59:07,410 well, 919 00:59:07,409 --> 00:59:11,069 we learned a bit about that, in regards to Kamala Harris 920 00:59:11,069 --> 00:59:14,249 bringing that up against Joe Biden. So I think people are a 921 00:59:14,249 --> 00:59:16,109 lot more aware than than they were. 922 00:59:17,070 --> 00:59:19,650 Yeah. And that's This is one of the benefits of the information 923 00:59:19,650 --> 00:59:22,410 age that we previously talked about the beginning of the show. 924 00:59:22,740 --> 00:59:25,140 So majority three, 925 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,010 that sort of personifies some of this movement of the Republican 926 00:59:29,010 --> 00:59:33,180 Party away from its traditional belief in civil rights and 927 00:59:33,180 --> 00:59:36,840 extending rights to African Americans, especially by by the 928 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,630 mid 1960s. You get Lyndon Johnson who's going to take the 929 00:59:39,630 --> 00:59:44,130 lead on civil rights act 1964 Voting Rights Act of 1965. And 930 00:59:44,130 --> 00:59:48,060 by that point, the ship is cooked right. The Republican 931 00:59:48,060 --> 00:59:54,060 Party opposes it standard bearer Barry Goldwater oppose 1964. He 932 00:59:54,060 --> 00:59:57,000 calls it a piece of communistic legislation. At that point. I 933 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:01,230 think the door closes right at that point. African Americans 934 01:00:01,230 --> 01:00:04,080 who are politically active or are Democrats 935 01:00:09,150 --> 01:00:14,100 this the switch? Yeah, that is switching parties. Yeah. Yeah, 936 01:00:14,130 --> 01:00:14,760 go ahead. 937 01:00:15,420 --> 01:00:17,880 Well, I've never heard it explained like this. So I'm kind 938 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,610 of trying to process it because this is the whole you know, what 939 01:00:20,610 --> 01:00:24,720 happened? Well, you've you here, you know, how this switch 940 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,020 happened? What who switched? Was it the voters who left or did 941 01:00:28,020 --> 01:00:31,920 the party switch? You know, it's it's very murky way it's 942 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,250 explained in verted explained many different ways. Not exactly 943 01:00:35,250 --> 01:00:37,440 like this, though. Well, this 944 01:00:37,439 --> 01:00:43,559 is the left democratic explanation for why black voters 945 01:00:43,559 --> 01:00:47,279 vote Democrat and they, they kind of they didn't use the term 946 01:00:47,279 --> 01:00:51,269 Southern strategy. But as you always know, I always like to 947 01:00:51,269 --> 01:00:55,619 counterbalance Yes, Amy narrative with a man with a 948 01:00:55,649 --> 01:01:01,139 narrative or a at least explanation from the opposite 949 01:01:01,139 --> 01:01:05,939 side. So then we can go down the middle and kind of find where 950 01:01:05,939 --> 01:01:09,089 the where the truth really is. Right. So I went over to Prager, 951 01:01:09,089 --> 01:01:09,509 you. 952 01:01:11,579 --> 01:01:14,099 That's a good one, to go to 953 01:01:14,460 --> 01:01:19,560 one of our right leaning, go to sources. And Miss Carol Swain. 954 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:26,160 Miss Carol Swain. Let me look up her information here is a 955 01:01:27,780 --> 01:01:31,890 professor, she is a professor of political science at Vanderbilt 956 01:01:31,890 --> 01:01:37,590 University. And she's a black lady. So be understand, just 957 01:01:37,740 --> 01:01:42,060 hold it into thought, as we get her to explain the Southern 958 01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:42,750 strategy. 959 01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:46,710 Once upon a time, every student of history. And that meant 960 01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:51,270 pretty much everyone with a high school education knew this. The 961 01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:55,260 Democratic Party was the party of slavery and Jim Crow. And the 962 01:01:55,260 --> 01:01:59,610 Republican Party was the party of emancipation and racial 963 01:01:59,610 --> 01:02:04,230 integration. Democrats were the Confederacy and Republicans were 964 01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:08,520 the union. Jim Crow, Democrats were dominant in the south, and 965 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,690 socially tolerant Republicans were dominant in the north. But 966 01:02:12,690 --> 01:02:18,000 then, in the 1960s, and 70s. Everything supposedly flipped. 967 01:02:18,180 --> 01:02:21,810 Suddenly, the Republicans became the racist, and the Democrats 968 01:02:21,810 --> 01:02:25,890 became the champions of civil rights, fabricated by left 969 01:02:25,890 --> 01:02:29,430 leaning academic elites and journalists, the story went like 970 01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:33,780 this. Republicans couldn't win a national election by appealing 971 01:02:33,780 --> 01:02:36,870 to the better nature of the country, they could only win by 972 01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:40,980 appealing to the worse attributed to Richard Nixon, the 973 01:02:40,980 --> 01:02:45,450 media's all purpose bad guy. This came to be known as the 974 01:02:45,450 --> 01:02:46,680 Southern strategy. 975 01:02:47,610 --> 01:02:51,090 You know, sometimes I think, because it's just not, it's just 976 01:02:51,090 --> 01:02:55,260 not clearly laid out how this happened. I think that when they 977 01:02:55,290 --> 01:02:59,160 when they killed Kennedy, the trauma was so great that there's 978 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:03,600 like a, like a collective memory whole, kind of around that 979 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,660 period, when done with Johnson and everything is just like, 980 01:03:08,070 --> 01:03:11,790 like, okay, here we are. This is this is how the dust is cleared, 981 01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:13,680 where the Democrats were your friends. 982 01:03:14,579 --> 01:03:18,659 And they rewrote Johnson in history for who we actually was 983 01:03:18,689 --> 01:03:22,679 when we think several of our listeners and maybe you have 984 01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:25,439 heard the Johnson tapes. Oh, yeah, he was not 985 01:03:25,889 --> 01:03:28,469 racist. The guy's super racist. He was saying 986 01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:33,299 he wasn't the civil rights and civil rights freedom fighter 987 01:03:33,809 --> 01:03:38,009 that they paid him out to be, especially in his HBO movie they 988 01:03:38,009 --> 01:03:41,639 made Yeah. Oh my God. They made him out to be like a douche. It 989 01:03:41,639 --> 01:03:47,039 was total dick. All right. Yeah. So so what we're going to do is, 990 01:03:47,489 --> 01:03:51,449 as you pointed out, they brushed over this thing called a 991 01:03:51,449 --> 01:03:56,909 Southern strategy, and it's just wildly accepted as truth. Well, 992 01:03:56,909 --> 01:04:04,289 Miss Carroll Swain. She's going to break down the myth or myths 993 01:04:04,619 --> 01:04:06,719 of the Southern Southern strategy. 994 01:04:06,869 --> 01:04:10,289 It was very simple, win elections by winning the south 995 01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:15,299 and to win the south appeal to racists. So the Republicans, the 996 01:04:15,299 --> 01:04:19,919 party of Lincoln, were to now be labeled the party of rednecks. 997 01:04:20,369 --> 01:04:23,729 But this story of the two parties switching identities is 998 01:04:23,729 --> 01:04:28,859 a myth. In fact, it's three myths wrapped into one false 999 01:04:28,859 --> 01:04:33,239 narrative. Let's take a brief look at each myth in turn. Myth 1000 01:04:33,239 --> 01:04:36,719 number one, in order to be competitive in the south, 1001 01:04:36,929 --> 01:04:41,519 Republicans started to pander to white racists in the 1960s. 1002 01:04:41,819 --> 01:04:46,349 Fact, Republicans actually became competitive in the South 1003 01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:52,709 as early as 1928. One Republican Herbert Hoover, won over 47% of 1004 01:04:52,709 --> 01:04:56,519 the South's popular vote against Democrat Al Smith. 1005 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:57,990 Yes, 1006 01:04:58,710 --> 01:05:02,970 I think I've seen This whole Carol Swain bit, I think it's 1007 01:05:02,970 --> 01:05:05,340 very familiar to me. So yeah, this sounds right. And I 1008 01:05:05,340 --> 01:05:09,510 remember looking this up in reliable places like Wikipedia 1009 01:05:09,690 --> 01:05:11,190 confer confirming. 1010 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,840 But this goes to show you that there's a counter narrative to 1011 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:23,190 what was widely accepted course. And this goes to explain why 1012 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,360 millennials, some not being, quote, some actually being more 1013 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:32,250 conservative. Yeah. This is more am an ammunition for people to 1014 01:05:32,250 --> 01:05:36,630 say, hey, wait a minute. When I'm talking to my dad, I mean, 1015 01:05:36,780 --> 01:05:39,630 we're gonna use this analogy of me talking to my dad because 1016 01:05:39,630 --> 01:05:43,770 I'm, I think I'm borderline millennial and Gen X, or I'm not 1017 01:05:43,770 --> 01:05:47,340 sure where that cutoff is. But I'm not a boomer. But I'm a non 1018 01:05:47,340 --> 01:05:49,980 Boomer. My dad's a boomer. So when we have these 1019 01:05:49,980 --> 01:05:52,710 conversations, I'm like, Hey, Dad, and he'll break out the 1020 01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:56,430 Southern strategy, right? And I'll be like, I'll top your 1021 01:05:56,430 --> 01:06:01,140 Southern strategy with Miss Carol Swain, how black southern 1022 01:06:01,140 --> 01:06:06,660 lady, that's the boomer. So it works out. It works out great, 1023 01:06:06,660 --> 01:06:11,640 because now I have this information to you know, 1024 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,970 enlighten him. That how'd 1025 01:06:14,970 --> 01:06:20,700 that go? How's that go over when you do that to your dad? What's 1026 01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:21,600 the workout? Great? 1027 01:06:23,250 --> 01:06:30,630 Yeah. Well, he's gonna vote regardless. Yeah, he's gonna 1028 01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:35,820 vote. So yeah, so and that's, once again, this is why Biden's 1029 01:06:35,820 --> 01:06:38,310 numbers are so strong, because they don't want to hear it. This 1030 01:06:38,310 --> 01:06:41,970 is what we've done the exact this is what we've done. And 1031 01:06:41,970 --> 01:06:45,060 this is what we're going to do. But for people out there, we're 1032 01:06:45,060 --> 01:06:48,000 gonna break down the myths for you. And let's go into Myth 1033 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:48,660 number two. 1034 01:06:48,929 --> 01:06:52,769 Myth number two Southern Democrats angry with the Civil 1035 01:06:52,769 --> 01:06:58,679 Rights Act of 1964. switch parties. Fact, of the 21 1036 01:06:58,709 --> 01:07:03,269 Democratic senators who oppose the Civil Rights Act, just one 1037 01:07:03,269 --> 01:07:08,009 became a Republican. The other 20 continued to be elected as 1038 01:07:08,009 --> 01:07:13,289 Democrats, or were replaced by other Democrats. On average, 1039 01:07:13,529 --> 01:07:17,039 those 20 seats didn't go Republican. For another two and 1040 01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:18,149 a half decades. 1041 01:07:18,659 --> 01:07:21,479 Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I have seen this. And she has a graphic with 1042 01:07:21,479 --> 01:07:23,969 that makes it even clearer when you see it. 1043 01:07:24,719 --> 01:07:29,369 Yeah, it's undeniable. So how's that workout? Where was it swap? 1044 01:07:29,399 --> 01:07:35,339 Where was this? Where was this flip? It's in the, 1045 01:07:36,090 --> 01:07:37,710 it's in the book mash. 1046 01:07:38,340 --> 01:07:43,530 It didn't exist now. But we all know, when you say something 1047 01:07:43,530 --> 01:07:47,550 long enough. It'll just be accepted as truth. And it's kind 1048 01:07:47,550 --> 01:07:52,020 of hard to break that condition. And 1049 01:07:52,020 --> 01:07:55,110 it's really astounding, because I know that I went after the 1050 01:07:55,110 --> 01:07:59,700 story for about a month or six weeks or no agenda. And you 1051 01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:02,880 know, and I got so many different versions of the switch 1052 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,330 that people had heard and confirmation that yes, you know, 1053 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,420 this, because I played pieces of this Prager, you bit. And I'm 1054 01:08:09,420 --> 01:08:13,440 like, oh, yeah, that's what I heard. But now that I hear this 1055 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,080 is something completely different. This is this is snuck 1056 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,480 into history. And it's a rewrite. It really has been 1057 01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:22,530 rewritten in in different ways. But the result is the same a 1058 01:08:22,530 --> 01:08:23,130 switch. 1059 01:08:24,599 --> 01:08:30,629 And what she used she's using cold hard numbers. You can't 1060 01:08:30,659 --> 01:08:35,069 beat numbers, but people would just write it off like 1061 01:08:35,730 --> 01:08:39,900 yeah, whatever she's compromised conspiracy theory. Crazy 1062 01:08:39,900 --> 01:08:42,450 religious, Republican, Trump. 1063 01:08:43,679 --> 01:08:47,819 All those all the above. She's, she's lost her mind. Yeah. 1064 01:08:47,909 --> 01:08:53,609 Alright, let's just for poops and giggles. Let's listen to 1065 01:08:53,609 --> 01:08:56,819 Miss Carol Swain and the third myth. Myth number 1066 01:08:56,820 --> 01:09:00,840 three. Since the implementation of the Southern strategy, the 1067 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:05,850 Republicans have dominated the south by Act, which it makes him 1068 01:09:06,030 --> 01:09:09,270 the man who is often credited with creating the Southern 1069 01:09:09,270 --> 01:09:15,240 Strategy lost the deep south in 1968. In contrast, Democrat 1070 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:20,610 Jimmy Carter nearly swept the region in 1976 12 years after 1071 01:09:20,610 --> 01:09:26,520 the Civil Rights Act of 1964. And in 1992, over 28 years 1072 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:31,200 later, Democrat Bill Clinton won Georgia, Louisiana, Arkansas, 1073 01:09:31,230 --> 01:09:35,190 Tennessee, Kentucky and West Virginia. The truth is, 1074 01:09:35,370 --> 01:09:38,160 Republicans didn't hold a majority of southern 1075 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:43,770 congressional seats until 1994 30 years after the Civil 1076 01:09:43,770 --> 01:09:44,970 Rights Act. Yeah, 1077 01:09:45,420 --> 01:09:50,160 yep, that's right. That's the facts. But I mean, as we know 1078 01:09:50,190 --> 01:09:55,800 matters, but it's our duty. To have our due diligence. We have 1079 01:09:55,800 --> 01:10:01,530 to counterbalance the narrative And there you have it, and 1080 01:10:01,530 --> 01:10:05,730 anybody who wants to use this information at any family 1081 01:10:05,730 --> 01:10:07,170 function, have at it. 1082 01:10:09,660 --> 01:10:13,680 Gasby Yes, we feel that weddings are very appropriate for this, 1083 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,770 this is a good time to break it out. And you just have a 1084 01:10:16,770 --> 01:10:18,930 headphone hit listen to these guys, and then just queue up 1085 01:10:18,930 --> 01:10:21,780 that bit. It'll fantastic guaranteed fun. 1086 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:28,770 So, but at the time that this was going on, there was somebody 1087 01:10:28,770 --> 01:10:36,210 calling myths of hypocrisy out. And it was one of my favorites, 1088 01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:43,050 Mr. Malcolm X. And one of his one of I think one of the 1089 01:10:43,050 --> 01:10:49,770 greatest speeches, even over this is my personal opinion, 1090 01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:53,970 even over I have a dream. And this was the ballot and the 1091 01:10:53,970 --> 01:10:55,050 bullet speech. 1092 01:10:58,230 --> 01:11:02,610 The political philosophy of black nationalism only means 1093 01:11:02,610 --> 01:11:05,670 that the black man should control the politics and the 1094 01:11:05,670 --> 01:11:13,290 politicians in his own community. When white people can 1095 01:11:13,290 --> 01:11:17,310 come in community, and get us to vote for them, so that they can 1096 01:11:17,310 --> 01:11:20,610 be our political leaders and tell us what to do and what not 1097 01:11:20,610 --> 01:11:22,350 to do is long gone. 1098 01:11:29,340 --> 01:11:33,060 By the same token, the time when that same white man, knowing 1099 01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:36,810 that your eyes are too far open, consider another Navy role into 1100 01:11:36,810 --> 01:11:40,950 the community to support him so he can use him. 1101 01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:52,200 Oh, really, they came back for a bit there. 1102 01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:59,490 Doesn't this are eerily like the times we're in right now? 1103 01:11:59,489 --> 01:12:03,899 No kidding. No kidding, MO. And this is what year was this? The 1104 01:12:03,899 --> 01:12:06,269 speech 1964 60 forces. 1105 01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:11,040 This isn't what after he left. Let me get the information on 1106 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:16,320 this speech. This was after he left the Nation of Islam. In 1107 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:23,490 1964. April 12. He gave this speech at the King Solomon 1108 01:12:23,490 --> 01:12:30,030 Baptist Church in Detroit, Michigan. But he even he even 1109 01:12:31,140 --> 01:12:35,760 basically pointed out to Boulais Oh, yeah. In there, because he 1110 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,180 said for the people to even have their eyes open. They're going 1111 01:12:39,180 --> 01:12:45,330 to sin leaders that look like us. Yeah, get your vote. So I 1112 01:12:45,330 --> 01:12:50,310 mean, hello, Barry. Quite clear. Yeah, he was quite clear. That 1113 01:12:50,340 --> 01:12:55,650 even real time people were aware of what was going on. Right, 1114 01:12:55,650 --> 01:12:58,950 what was going on? And that's why I followed up this Miss 1115 01:12:58,980 --> 01:13:03,960 Carol Swain with this set of clips because people like oh, 1116 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,690 that's a rewrite of history. She's cherry picking history. 1117 01:13:07,140 --> 01:13:11,820 Well, we have one of the most renowned black leaders refuting 1118 01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:19,470 refuting it. Yes. So let's let's let's let them continue ballot 1119 01:13:19,530 --> 01:13:20,430 or the bullet two. 1120 01:13:24,420 --> 01:13:32,970 We must, we must understand the politics. And we must know we 1121 01:13:32,970 --> 01:13:37,560 must know what politics play in our lives. Until we become 1122 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:41,700 politically mature, we will always be misled and led astray 1123 01:13:42,090 --> 01:13:46,050 or deceived or maneuvered into supporting someone politically, 1124 01:13:46,260 --> 01:13:50,280 who doesn't have the good of our community and so the political 1125 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:54,150 philosophy of nationalism only means that we will have to carry 1126 01:13:54,150 --> 01:13:58,560 on a program a political program of re education to open up 1127 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,500 people's eyes make us become more politically conscious 1128 01:14:01,500 --> 01:14:06,210 politically mature whenever we get ready to cast our ballots, 1129 01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:10,260 that ballot will be class will be cast for a man of the 1130 01:14:10,260 --> 01:14:12,870 community to have the good of the community 1131 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:31,410 is scary. If you were to publish these words, right now and 2020 1132 01:14:32,220 --> 01:14:37,560 is like he's like it's the same right? We're at the same 1133 01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:41,130 Crossroads well, 1134 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:46,680 it it's a fractal and in an in a very interesting nice way you 1135 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,160 are you are a part of that fractal mo so this is this is a 1136 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,320 good thing. It's a beautiful thing to see really. 1137 01:14:53,790 --> 01:14:57,840 Cuz I knew of this speech, I mean, I've heard it numerous 1138 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,320 times, but just to hear it and like now Want to hear right now? 1139 01:15:01,470 --> 01:15:06,330 Yeah, it's like he could be. He could be talking about what's 1140 01:15:06,330 --> 01:15:09,510 going on right and right now, and it's just so it's wonderful 1141 01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:13,050 at one way. And another way. It's just that, wow, it took 1142 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,280 this long. Like, it's 1143 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:18,120 like, because this is 55 years because I was born in 1964. 1144 01:15:18,810 --> 01:15:22,650 Yeah. Shit. I'm part of the fractal to UI. 1145 01:15:23,790 --> 01:15:30,690 It's 55 years. For us to get to the maturing point. Yeah. 1146 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,150 But that Well, congratulations on all facts. How does it feel 1147 01:15:36,150 --> 01:15:39,360 now that you're politically mature? It feels 1148 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:48,180 great. Feels great. Effort. Exactly. But, but it does feel 1149 01:15:48,180 --> 01:15:55,410 great, because what we see here is the internet. Yep. The, the 1150 01:15:55,410 --> 01:15:59,010 one of the greatest inventions of all time, the internet has 1151 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:04,170 defeated the propaganda machine that has kept down people in all 1152 01:16:04,170 --> 01:16:09,060 walks of life at all, you know, we can go back and pull data and 1153 01:16:09,450 --> 01:16:13,440 pull clips and put it together and actually find what the truth 1154 01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:19,050 was. So I'm just gonna let him continue. I mean, he's on a roll 1155 01:16:19,050 --> 01:16:19,770 right now. So 1156 01:16:25,860 --> 01:16:33,510 this government has failed government itself. Liberals who 1157 01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:39,360 have been posing as our friends. Once we see that all these other 1158 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,950 sources to which we turn, we stopped turning to them and turn 1159 01:16:43,950 --> 01:16:48,750 to ourselves. We need a self help program. Do it, do it 1160 01:16:48,750 --> 01:17:01,530 yourself. I do it right now. The only time the only way we're 1161 01:17:01,530 --> 01:17:07,560 going to solve our problems is with a self help program. Before 1162 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,010 we can get a self help program started, we have to have a self 1163 01:17:11,010 --> 01:17:12,210 help philosophy. 1164 01:17:13,740 --> 01:17:17,280 I'm so happy that this particular recording exists 1165 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:21,300 because a lot of the recordings of Martin Luther King suck. And 1166 01:17:21,330 --> 01:17:24,330 this is this is nice. I mean, the audio is good. And of 1167 01:17:24,330 --> 01:17:26,640 course, it's got its scratchiness, but you can really 1168 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,540 hear him incredibly well. And again, everything he said here, 1169 01:17:30,900 --> 01:17:33,600 I mean, mine has been in my journal called himself, Malcolm 1170 01:17:33,630 --> 01:17:34,890 Malcolm mo facts. 1171 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:40,080 And the funny thing is, is that the meme that I was telling you 1172 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:45,900 about before that I've seen conservatives post of Malcolm X 1173 01:17:45,900 --> 01:17:51,120 talking about liberals. Right, right. I've mentioned it several 1174 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,360 times in the show, but that is the one but also talking about 1175 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:54,870 so so 1176 01:17:54,900 --> 01:17:59,190 let me just say in this in this speech, where he says the 1177 01:17:59,190 --> 01:18:02,490 conservative doesn't give a crap about you anyway. Either. 1178 01:18:03,420 --> 01:18:06,600 Way, hey, no, no, no. We're just gonna clip it down to where he's 1179 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:11,610 talking about the liberals. Oh. That's how memes work. Let me 1180 01:18:11,610 --> 01:18:15,420 come on. Gotcha. I'm with you. I'm working with you. cherry 1181 01:18:15,420 --> 01:18:22,080 pick the cherry picker to use against the liberals. But it's 1182 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:26,400 weird because I was like what? Like, you know, hardcore 1183 01:18:26,430 --> 01:18:29,670 conservatives are using Malcolm X who thought that in the 1184 01:18:29,670 --> 01:18:31,230 20th 21st century? 1185 01:18:31,589 --> 01:18:35,009 Well, I know when I when I was growing up. There used to be 1186 01:18:35,009 --> 01:18:37,349 Malcolm X t shirts. You don't see those anymore. 1187 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:44,250 I will say this. And I don't wanna get too far off cutting 1188 01:18:44,250 --> 01:18:51,210 out I'm saying it has been disgusting. What a few active 1189 01:18:51,390 --> 01:18:55,440 members of the Black academia has done to the name of Malcolm 1190 01:18:55,500 --> 01:19:00,780 X. One being Mr. Michael Eric Dyson. Disgusting. And I'll just 1191 01:19:00,780 --> 01:19:02,670 leave it at that. He was saying people can go look up for 1192 01:19:02,670 --> 01:19:09,900 yourself. They when you are the Boulais Yeah, everything is fair 1193 01:19:09,900 --> 01:19:13,350 game to tear down if it's harmful to the people that 1194 01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:15,690 you're protecting now, and I'll just leave it there, but it's 1195 01:19:15,690 --> 01:19:16,890 just disgusting. Well, 1196 01:19:17,490 --> 01:19:21,180 we're bookmarking it because in 2020, we got to come back 1197 01:19:21,180 --> 01:19:25,950 to that. Yes, I will come back to the our will. And maybe 1198 01:19:25,950 --> 01:19:32,370 sooner than then thought. But I think we left off it three to 1199 01:19:32,370 --> 01:19:33,780 four. Yep. Four. 1200 01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:45,210 Why is America why does this loom to be such an explosive 1201 01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:50,010 political year? Because this is the era of politics. This is the 1202 01:19:50,010 --> 01:19:52,260 year when all of the white politicians are going to come 1203 01:19:52,260 --> 01:19:55,110 into the negro community. You've never seen them until the 1204 01:19:55,110 --> 01:20:01,200 election. You can't blame them. They're going to come in with 1205 01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,590 false promises. And as they make these false promises, they're 1206 01:20:04,590 --> 01:20:08,610 going to feed our frustrations. And this will only serve to make 1207 01:20:08,610 --> 01:20:12,420 matters worse. I'm no politician. I'm not even a 1208 01:20:12,420 --> 01:20:17,640 student of politics. I'm not a Republican nor Democrat, not an 1209 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:18,360 American and 1210 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:26,610 what did he say at the 1211 01:20:26,610 --> 01:20:28,800 end? They're not American. 1212 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,770 I'm not a Republican. I'm not Democrat. I'm not American. 1213 01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:35,490 American have sis nothing. No. And what he means by that is 1214 01:20:35,490 --> 01:20:37,200 he's not recognize Oh, I 1215 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,300 totally understand what he means. Yeah. 1216 01:20:39,780 --> 01:20:42,030 I'm explaining for people that you know, 1217 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,820 I'm sorry, I will say it again because I interrupted you, ya 1218 01:20:44,850 --> 01:20:45,780 know what? 1219 01:20:46,290 --> 01:20:50,850 He's not accepted into the American dream into the fabric 1220 01:20:50,850 --> 01:20:55,170 of the constitution. So he's like, I'm, I'm, what would you 1221 01:20:55,170 --> 01:20:59,010 have to do is put that in context of, of course, Dr. King, 1222 01:20:59,010 --> 01:21:02,790 and I have a dream and even though civil rights movement, 1223 01:21:03,330 --> 01:21:10,740 he's like, No, don't be fooled. Right? To think you're you're 1224 01:21:10,740 --> 01:21:14,550 only being used because you can activate the vote even back then 1225 01:21:14,580 --> 01:21:23,250 it was activated. Yeah. So um, bullet 520 2 million 1226 01:21:23,250 --> 01:21:28,410 black victims of Americanism by waking up and gaining a new 1227 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:32,460 political consciousness, becoming politically mature. And 1228 01:21:32,460 --> 01:21:35,880 as they become develop this political maturity, they're able 1229 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:40,680 to see the recent trends in these political elections, they 1230 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,260 see that the whites are so evenly divided that every time 1231 01:21:43,260 --> 01:21:46,590 they vote, the race is so close, they have to go back and count 1232 01:21:46,590 --> 01:21:51,870 the votes all over again. Which means that any block, any 1233 01:21:51,870 --> 01:21:54,870 minority that has a block of votes that stick together is in 1234 01:21:54,870 --> 01:22:00,420 a strategic position. Either way, you you're in a position to 1235 01:22:00,420 --> 01:22:03,390 determine who goes to the White House and who will stay in the 1236 01:22:03,390 --> 01:22:09,030 doghouse. You're the one who has, 1237 01:22:10,140 --> 01:22:13,590 here's what Trump should do if I was advising him to use that 1238 01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:16,740 line. You want to be in the White House, you want to be in 1239 01:22:16,740 --> 01:22:20,790 the dog house. What a great one that would be to resurrect. 1240 01:22:21,660 --> 01:22:24,210 This is the block the course this is the 1241 01:22:25,530 --> 01:22:28,530 glow, right? It's the origination of the block sure 1242 01:22:28,740 --> 01:22:33,420 that we have so much power right now because the country is so 1243 01:22:33,450 --> 01:22:38,970 evenly divided. That this, this is one time with the monolith of 1244 01:22:38,970 --> 01:22:42,570 the block or whatever you want to call it is valuable. Because 1245 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:46,920 we can move in one direction or the other. It'll be noticed. 1246 01:22:48,180 --> 01:22:52,560 It'll know the way the country goes or our vote goes is I'm 1247 01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:56,370 talking about 2020 Here. However, our vote goals are 1248 01:22:56,370 --> 01:22:59,910 don't go because we have to talk about the negative vote again. 1249 01:23:01,170 --> 01:23:04,650 Republicans just need us to stay at home. They don't need us to 1250 01:23:04,650 --> 01:23:08,850 come and vote. And to go back a few clips ago they were saying 1251 01:23:08,850 --> 01:23:13,710 that the Trump campaign is putting out information targeted 1252 01:23:13,710 --> 01:23:18,720 information on Facebook and barbershops. This message is 1253 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:19,710 getting around. 1254 01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:26,190 So you need to Weymouth so Trump is is campaigning with flyers in 1255 01:23:26,190 --> 01:23:27,570 barber shops. Is that was that what you 1256 01:23:27,570 --> 01:23:30,810 said? I don't know. I don't know how that goes. I haven't seen a 1257 01:23:30,810 --> 01:23:37,920 Trump flyer in a barber shop but but they're reaching out. Right? 1258 01:23:38,100 --> 01:23:41,640 Because that's that's the political form. I wanted to 1259 01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,000 major political forms in the black barbershop. Yeah, it's the 1260 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,190 barbershop I mean any any community but 1261 01:23:47,220 --> 01:23:52,350 Whoa, I've seen Eddie Murphy movies. Okay. Yeah. I get it I 1262 01:23:52,350 --> 01:23:59,640 get I could be your Arsenio 1263 01:24:01,860 --> 01:24:09,780 so people don't think about 1964. When you hear these clips, 1264 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:14,130 think about writing about 2020. Think about right now what he's 1265 01:24:14,130 --> 01:24:18,360 saying. And bullet six. 1266 01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:23,010 You're the one who sent Kennedy to Washington. You're the one 1267 01:24:23,010 --> 01:24:27,000 who put the president Democratic administration in Washington DC. 1268 01:24:27,390 --> 01:24:31,140 The Wake were evenly divided. It was the fact that you through a 1269 01:24:31,140 --> 01:24:34,680 percent of your votes behind the Democrats that put the Democrats 1270 01:24:34,710 --> 01:24:39,030 in the White House. When you see this, you can see that the Negro 1271 01:24:39,060 --> 01:24:42,780 bill is a key factor in despite the fact that you are in a 1272 01:24:42,780 --> 01:24:46,050 position to to be the determining factor. What do you 1273 01:24:46,050 --> 01:24:49,920 get out of it? The Democrats have been in Washington DC, only 1274 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:54,090 because of the negros they've been down there for years. And 1275 01:24:54,090 --> 01:24:56,640 they're all other legislation they wanted to bring up they 1276 01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,370 brought it up and get it out of the way and now they bring up 1277 01:24:59,370 --> 01:25:05,250 you You You put them first and they put you 1278 01:25:12,630 --> 01:25:18,840 chump. Fantastic. Now against spotter spotter spotter. 1279 01:25:19,050 --> 01:25:26,190 And but this could be about 2008 to 2010. Yep. When we got Brock 1280 01:25:26,190 --> 01:25:30,120 in office gave gave him all the votes he needed to pass any 1281 01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,990 legislation from those two year period. They got everything 1282 01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:39,060 Obamacare and everything else they won't pass with nothing no 1283 01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:40,560 Trump but nothing. 1284 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:45,690 Trump's you got Trump. And next you got Trump. See you gotta get 1285 01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:52,170 again, I'm writing the campaign for him. Some I got some I call 1286 01:25:52,170 --> 01:25:57,390 Mr. Curry Oh, political consultancy, 1287 01:25:57,449 --> 01:26:04,409 consulting. Yeah. So I'm just the counter Mr. Malcolm, and 1288 01:26:04,409 --> 01:26:09,359 explain how some people that I often agree with I don't agree 1289 01:26:09,359 --> 01:26:13,229 with on their stance on voting is Mr. Warm, nearly Fuller, and 1290 01:26:13,229 --> 01:26:17,129 we've played his clips before, he was so gracious to us to 1291 01:26:17,129 --> 01:26:23,129 define what white supremacy was on previous shows. But I want 1292 01:26:23,129 --> 01:26:26,819 him to explain he's gonna explain voting with the slave 1293 01:26:26,819 --> 01:26:27,839 ship analogy. 1294 01:26:28,380 --> 01:26:32,460 It leads to some constructive things and a whole lot of non 1295 01:26:32,460 --> 01:26:36,840 constructive things. But when you consider the alternative, 1296 01:26:37,980 --> 01:26:41,610 use the slave ship analogy. If you're at the bottom of the 1297 01:26:41,610 --> 01:26:47,550 slave ship, you know Yana slave ship. But every now and then 1298 01:26:47,550 --> 01:26:53,280 some second lieutenants, who is the slave master of the slave 1299 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:58,620 ship? Some person who is not the captain maybe comes down the 1300 01:26:58,620 --> 01:27:02,160 ladder and say, well, the captain doesn't speak favorably 1301 01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:09,480 of any of you people. After all, this is a slave ship. But I go 1302 01:27:09,480 --> 01:27:12,150 with him about giving you a little more corn bread than you 1303 01:27:12,150 --> 01:27:17,610 usually get. So I'm going to try to get it for you. I mean, if 1304 01:27:17,610 --> 01:27:21,570 you just bear with me, and try to cooperate and don't rally or 1305 01:27:21,570 --> 01:27:26,310 change too much down here, disturbing my sleep. So if 1306 01:27:26,310 --> 01:27:29,460 you're to just kind of keep quiet, see through it, the 1307 01:27:29,460 --> 01:27:31,740 durations are increased. 1308 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:33,840 Yeah, sounds about right. 1309 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,160 And this is why I have the utmost respect for nearly 1310 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:42,000 Fuller, but this is why I disagree. He's in the mindset, 1311 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,260 well, a little bit more cornbread is better than the 1312 01:27:46,260 --> 01:27:48,300 little piece of cornbread that we did have, 1313 01:27:48,330 --> 01:27:50,790 right? But he's also a boomer. So he 1314 01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:58,470 is different. But I rather keep his analogy, keep rattling my 1315 01:27:58,470 --> 01:27:59,520 chains. Yeah, he's 1316 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,890 got some good ones in there. Right? I 1317 01:28:01,890 --> 01:28:04,950 keep I rather me personally, rather keep rattling in my 1318 01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:11,970 chains than to be bought off for another little few more crumbs. 1319 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,800 Because I understand the power that was laid out in the clips 1320 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,160 by Malcolm X. Right. It's there's real power, political 1321 01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:24,360 power there is just that we and that's the best never realized. 1322 01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:24,720 And that's 1323 01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:29,220 the best enslavement is when you I mean, in general, all 1324 01:28:29,220 --> 01:28:32,880 Americans, collectively, we have incredible power, we are much 1325 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,270 more powerful than the government. But when we do, but 1326 01:28:36,270 --> 01:28:39,600 when you don't know it when you've been taught not to think 1327 01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,810 that way. When you're told that the people you elect are your 1328 01:28:42,810 --> 01:28:46,920 leaders. That's one of my personal pet peeves, like come 1329 01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:52,530 on. My leader. It's my employee. You know, but that's that's been 1330 01:28:52,530 --> 01:28:57,420 programmed for years and years and years. Thank God for 1331 01:28:57,420 --> 01:28:58,320 podcasting. 1332 01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:08,700 All right, so we've talked about why black people have voted 1333 01:29:08,700 --> 01:29:14,550 Democratic for the Democrats. Close out I want to talk about 1334 01:29:14,580 --> 01:29:20,130 why black people have not voted for the Republicans. And to do 1335 01:29:20,130 --> 01:29:23,910 that. I want to use one of our show favorites, Mr. Stephen A. 1336 01:29:23,910 --> 01:29:24,300 Smith. 1337 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,400 Stephen A said that every black person in America should vote 1338 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:33,240 Republican for at least one election. Stephen A Smith is 1339 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,850 joining me now Steven, who are you trying to send a message to 1340 01:29:35,850 --> 01:29:40,080 Republicans, Democrats, African Americans, all of the above? 1341 01:29:41,940 --> 01:29:44,610 I'd go with all of the above that sounds about right, but 1342 01:29:44,610 --> 01:29:47,700 specifically the Democratic Party from the standpoint that I 1343 01:29:47,700 --> 01:29:50,490 definitely believe that the black vote has been taken for 1344 01:29:50,490 --> 01:29:54,870 granted. And primarily the black community is at fault in my 1345 01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:57,870 estimation, in that regard, simply because on one hand, 1346 01:29:57,990 --> 01:30:01,980 we're giving one party I vote because they've successfully 1347 01:30:01,980 --> 01:30:05,190 gone about the business of convincing our community that 1348 01:30:05,220 --> 01:30:08,400 the other party, the Republican Party is completely against the 1349 01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,890 interests of the black community. And as a result, 1350 01:30:10,890 --> 01:30:14,610 we've been very transparent. And I support, we've bought it hook, 1351 01:30:14,610 --> 01:30:17,430 line and sinker, we look at the Republican Party, I'm not 1352 01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:19,740 talking about every single one of us, of course, but vast 1353 01:30:19,740 --> 01:30:23,280 majority of black Americans look at the Republican Party as the 1354 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:27,270 enemy, we look at the Democratic Party, who even tacitly has our 1355 01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:30,270 support base. And as a result, we are very transparent in our 1356 01:30:30,270 --> 01:30:33,360 support for them. So because of it, they have a license to take 1357 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,660 us for granted. The Republican Party has a light to our license 1358 01:30:36,660 --> 01:30:39,480 to summarily dismiss us because they believe they'll never get 1359 01:30:39,510 --> 01:30:42,540 our vote anyway. And then we end up finding ourselves devoid of 1360 01:30:42,540 --> 01:30:45,750 any kind of representation whatsoever, because nobody is 1361 01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:49,410 really competing to garner our vote and our support. 1362 01:30:50,850 --> 01:30:52,980 Well, that is very clear. 1363 01:30:54,660 --> 01:30:58,320 I thought he laid it out quite clear, while we vote Democratic 1364 01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,990 CLI or Democrat for the Democrats, and while we don't 1365 01:31:00,990 --> 01:31:05,370 vote for Republicans, I can't say it any better myself. But of 1366 01:31:05,370 --> 01:31:11,160 course, he had to go back. Oh, I had to recant his statements, 1367 01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:12,240 because as he 1368 01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:16,860 did, excuse me, has got a little level of meaning out here in the 1369 01:31:16,860 --> 01:31:19,170 corner office. Talk to you about what you said. 1370 01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:24,780 Steven, can we talk to you in the office for a minute? And 1371 01:31:24,780 --> 01:31:31,080 what he really wanted to say would don't vote. I think what 1372 01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,890 you had to vote but you had, they got to keep you voting? I 1373 01:31:34,890 --> 01:31:39,360 think not voting is even saying to vote for the other party. Let 1374 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,370 me tell you, it's less dangerous. You could 1375 01:31:41,370 --> 01:31:45,150 not go on a mainstream television program and say, I 1376 01:31:45,150 --> 01:31:49,800 recommend people not vote. Immediately everyone will be 1377 01:31:49,860 --> 01:31:53,700 uber patriot. How can you say that? This is the worst thing in 1378 01:31:53,700 --> 01:31:58,320 the world. I can no one could say it. Nobody can say that on 1379 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,440 mainstream television. Ever. 1380 01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:05,640 And let's let's not forget that got Mr. Kaepernick canceled. 1381 01:32:05,670 --> 01:32:10,110 That's right. Temporarily. You go by by Mr. Stephen A Smith. 1382 01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,630 Yeah, you so he was like, Okay, we need to go the other 1383 01:32:15,630 --> 01:32:18,930 direction. But then he, you know, he had to come in and 1384 01:32:18,930 --> 01:32:22,170 remind everybody that he was a black man. Okay, so good. 1385 01:32:22,530 --> 01:32:23,970 Thank God. I forgot. Yeah. 1386 01:32:24,300 --> 01:32:33,690 Yeah, it is. So, um, to close out the show, I have some clips 1387 01:32:33,690 --> 01:32:38,790 from a YouTube channel called Black public media. And this 1388 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,660 video was entitled black folks don't vote Republican. 1389 01:32:42,930 --> 01:32:45,930 By one point. Black folks did vote Republican people like Zora 1390 01:32:45,930 --> 01:32:47,220 Neale Hurston, for instance, you 1391 01:32:47,220 --> 01:32:49,680 know, at the time of the Emancipation Proclamation, 1392 01:32:50,370 --> 01:32:52,560 Abraham Lincoln was Republican Franklin 1393 01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:57,210 Delano Roosevelt ushered in shifts around how black people 1394 01:32:57,210 --> 01:33:00,780 voted from the Republican party to the Democratic Party. 1395 01:33:00,900 --> 01:33:04,320 And then the father, the Tea Party came along, you know, was 1396 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:09,810 Barry Goldwater, and presented his whole extreme conservativism 1397 01:33:09,810 --> 01:33:12,390 idea, and I think he's sort of steered us away. 1398 01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:16,800 Also, the Republican community has done a poor job of reaching 1399 01:33:16,830 --> 01:33:19,290 out to the black community and helping us understand their 1400 01:33:19,290 --> 01:33:22,830 values as they have progressed over time. So we just kind of 1401 01:33:22,830 --> 01:33:26,250 used to voting. Mom was Democrat, Dad was Democrat, I'm 1402 01:33:26,250 --> 01:33:26,760 a Democrat. 1403 01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:31,290 I'm a Democrat. They talk about the middle class, or they don't 1404 01:33:31,290 --> 01:33:34,650 ask you to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. When you 1405 01:33:34,650 --> 01:33:36,150 don't have boots. Democrats 1406 01:33:36,150 --> 01:33:39,930 seem to want to share the wealth. You know, Republicans 1407 01:33:39,930 --> 01:33:42,840 like now it's mine. I work for this shit. This is mine. 1408 01:33:44,910 --> 01:33:46,680 How old are these fine people? 1409 01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,940 It was a various different ages, but most of them were maybe late 1410 01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:57,240 mid 30s to late 40s. But one person said in that video, mom's 1411 01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,870 Democrat dad and Democrat I'm a Democrat. I'm a Democrat. Yep. 1412 01:34:02,550 --> 01:34:07,620 Alright, so and they even acknowledge that black folks 1413 01:34:07,620 --> 01:34:13,440 started voting Republican but that the that you can hear it 1414 01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:17,280 didn't explicitly say it but you can hear the Southern Strategy 1415 01:34:17,310 --> 01:34:19,440 Oh, yeah. mentality. Oh, yeah. It's 1416 01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:21,090 in there for sure. It was it was 1417 01:34:21,090 --> 01:34:23,940 in there. I mean, they were just oh, it just something happened 1418 01:34:24,150 --> 01:34:25,230 is miraculous, which 1419 01:34:25,499 --> 01:34:28,859 I'm telling you Kennedy assassination. memory hole. 1420 01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:35,190 That's, that's a fascinating, fascinating observation. And I 1421 01:34:35,190 --> 01:34:41,250 liken that to maybe a 911 the same way Oh, trauma, trauma, the 1422 01:34:41,250 --> 01:34:44,490 trauma. Everything else is a blur after that. I mean, because 1423 01:34:44,490 --> 01:34:48,630 you can't even remember like, we a lot of stuff you think you 1424 01:34:48,630 --> 01:34:51,840 think and TV clips. Exactly. But when you actually try to 1425 01:34:51,840 --> 01:35:00,750 remember it. Yeah. It's really a blur. So the final clip Have we 1426 01:35:00,750 --> 01:35:05,820 have black folks don't vote Republican to black folks don't 1427 01:35:05,820 --> 01:35:06,900 vote Republican. 1428 01:35:07,950 --> 01:35:09,900 For the last part, probably not 1429 01:35:09,900 --> 01:35:10,920 in droves. 1430 01:35:11,010 --> 01:35:15,180 I thankfully don't have any friends or family members that 1431 01:35:15,180 --> 01:35:17,970 wouldn't vote Republican that I know of. If they are, they're 1432 01:35:18,090 --> 01:35:19,410 closeted Republicans. 1433 01:35:19,980 --> 01:35:23,880 I honestly feel like there's a secret society of Black 1434 01:35:24,150 --> 01:35:27,150 Republican voters somewhere. I don't know who they are. They're 1435 01:35:27,150 --> 01:35:30,030 not in this like one of my family. I won't put her out 1436 01:35:30,030 --> 01:35:31,440 there like that. But 1437 01:35:31,830 --> 01:35:34,560 think about the Ben Carson's of the world and Michael Steel's of 1438 01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,410 the world and what I've accepted, is it any idea that 1439 01:35:37,410 --> 01:35:39,630 comes out that's created by human beings, we're always going 1440 01:35:39,630 --> 01:35:41,640 to find someone to believe in it. 1441 01:35:41,850 --> 01:35:44,850 Now, the black people that vote Republican, tend to be a little 1442 01:35:44,850 --> 01:35:45,540 cray cray 1443 01:35:45,660 --> 01:35:49,260 black vote, don't vote Republican because we don't 1444 01:35:49,260 --> 01:35:50,100 trust whitey. 1445 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:58,230 Okay, that's pretty clear that the programming is working mo 1446 01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:06,420 gram. Is it successful? They're closing it. Yeah, imagine to 1447 01:36:06,420 --> 01:36:11,100 say, because our vote is political way. You're closeted, 1448 01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:16,770 man. And the time we live in where everybody's accepted, you 1449 01:36:16,770 --> 01:36:17,130 know? 1450 01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:22,230 Intersectionality Yep, share. 1451 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:27,180 Craig Craig. You have to be Craig Craig. I'm Republican. 1452 01:36:27,210 --> 01:36:29,010 And I'm not calling her out. 1453 01:36:30,210 --> 01:36:37,980 out I'm not going to call it for beer. And that To summarize, 1454 01:36:39,030 --> 01:36:43,410 well, either you have to vote. You have to vote 1455 01:36:43,470 --> 01:36:45,870 let me just let me just tell you something from from cracker 1456 01:36:45,870 --> 01:36:50,910 nation over here. I was at the hair salon that is believe it or 1457 01:36:50,910 --> 01:36:56,100 not mo political conversation takes place in the hair salon. A 1458 01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:59,820 just like the barber shop, except my hair salon is filled 1459 01:36:59,820 --> 01:37:06,750 with women. And okay. And I know the woman who does my hair. We 1460 01:37:06,750 --> 01:37:11,280 talk politics you know, we're not on the same page but we both 1461 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:16,410 agreed that she's very she sees the show. So a woman next to us 1462 01:37:16,410 --> 01:37:19,140 overhears it without really being prompted she just steps he 1463 01:37:19,140 --> 01:37:22,110 said oh my god. Let me just I don't know I don't know where 1464 01:37:22,110 --> 01:37:25,470 you stand politically but one of my clients he said if I had 1465 01:37:25,470 --> 01:37:28,110 stage four cancer I'd get a gun and go kill them motherfucker. 1466 01:37:29,010 --> 01:37:36,120 So this kind of idiocy is everywhere across all lines and 1467 01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:36,870 boundaries 1468 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:40,560 in barbarous making people sick 1469 01:37:40,590 --> 01:37:43,650 and it's making me very sick various makes 1470 01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:50,520 people sick. And I'll make this my last statement. We we lost a 1471 01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:54,570 large economy a Cummings a few maybe a few months ago a month 1472 01:37:54,570 --> 01:38:00,810 ago. And we heard the tragic news. Yes about his name slips 1473 01:38:00,810 --> 01:38:08,850 my mind now. He has pancreatic doppelganger. What's his name? 1474 01:38:10,620 --> 01:38:14,700 Oh, you this is you shouldn't have done this. Lewis Lewis 1475 01:38:14,790 --> 01:38:18,870 Lewis. Lewis, John Lewis, John Lewis. Damn. So it was only a 1476 01:38:18,870 --> 01:38:21,120 shell. But you don't have to remember that. It's not 1477 01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:21,540 important. 1478 01:38:22,620 --> 01:38:26,940 But I want to point out that people are being getting sick. 1479 01:38:27,030 --> 01:38:31,380 Exactly. Exactly. Stage four pancreatic cancer 1480 01:38:33,660 --> 01:38:37,650 this that they're seeking to Congressman that may have been 1481 01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:40,080 heavy anti Trump errs, 1482 01:38:40,950 --> 01:38:44,910 have calling him a racist, calling him a racist dad. And 1483 01:38:44,910 --> 01:38:50,670 the other one is, has a severe, severe illness. And how many 1484 01:38:50,700 --> 01:38:59,400 other talk media people have been announced. So you 1485 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:03,870 know, this is so interesting. I've been talking about this 1486 01:39:03,870 --> 01:39:07,080 being unhealthy for so long. And I and you just brought it up 1487 01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:15,330 again. And I think that we are now into year four of of this. 1488 01:39:15,390 --> 01:39:20,430 And it's I think identified early on, certainly people who 1489 01:39:20,430 --> 01:39:23,100 hate Trump when no matter what their political affiliation. 1490 01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:28,170 They started swearing and cussing more on TV and radio and 1491 01:39:28,170 --> 01:39:31,650 podcasts. Just Yes. And it's popping out and it's like, ooh, 1492 01:39:31,650 --> 01:39:34,980 ah, and it's become a little more okay. And, and I always saw 1493 01:39:34,980 --> 01:39:38,250 that as incredible. If you can't hold that back in a in a 1494 01:39:38,250 --> 01:39:41,100 situation where it's not appropriate on the show. It's 1495 01:39:41,100 --> 01:39:45,600 appropriate, you know, we don't overuse anything. But on 1496 01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:49,290 television, cable news is not appropriate. And when you can't 1497 01:39:49,290 --> 01:39:53,760 hold that in it, then you've got stuff rooted very deeply. And 1498 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:57,270 when you hold that in, and you're holding that for years, I 1499 01:39:57,270 --> 01:40:00,300 think you and I'm going to keep track of this, too. People are 1500 01:40:00,300 --> 01:40:04,530 going to start dropping, it's these old guys first. And they 1501 01:40:04,710 --> 01:40:07,770 can see the young with aging, you can see them aging right 1502 01:40:07,770 --> 01:40:12,000 before your eyes. And the reason why I'm bringing this up is the 1503 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:16,170 V for V, the value for value, even if you think we're two 1504 01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:21,960 idiots this babbling along, what we try to do is this. We laugh, 1505 01:40:22,830 --> 01:40:27,720 you know, we, we want to talk people down off the ledge, well, 1506 01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:33,120 well get providing some educational value. So if you 1507 01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,820 don't take anything away from the show, too, but to laugh 1508 01:40:35,820 --> 01:40:39,480 about the things that we talk about, or do, you know, just 1509 01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:43,770 have a little fun for a couple hours? You know, that's the 1510 01:40:43,770 --> 01:40:46,200 value that I hope that we provide, if nothing else, if you 1511 01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:47,610 don't take anything else away from the show. 1512 01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,720 And what we'd like to ask for in return is that you consider 1513 01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,570 returning some of that value is actually a very simple exercise. 1514 01:40:54,780 --> 01:40:56,700 So like, shall you've been listening to this for about an 1515 01:40:56,700 --> 01:41:00,600 hour and a half a little bit longer? What is your time worth 1516 01:41:00,630 --> 01:41:03,540 that? If you go see a movie, it's about we're about the 1517 01:41:03,540 --> 01:41:06,510 length of a movie. And you come away from this learning 1518 01:41:06,510 --> 01:41:12,300 something and you still laughed. Please consider us at mo fund 1519 01:41:12,300 --> 01:41:18,900 me.com mov fund me.com. Mo fi mo facts.com is our, our our main 1520 01:41:18,900 --> 01:41:23,340 website. And Mo, I think you've set everybody up for perfect 1521 01:41:23,340 --> 01:41:29,460 2020. I'd like to ask you one question before we go having 1522 01:41:29,490 --> 01:41:32,160 having Sure. No, I haven't gone through this journey with you. 1523 01:41:33,450 --> 01:41:37,590 Do you think this is the year that the block regardless of 1524 01:41:37,590 --> 01:41:45,210 what happens? The black block B to B squared? realizes realizes 1525 01:41:45,480 --> 01:41:49,860 what power it has? Will the is this realization going to be 1526 01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:51,540 mainstream enough? 1527 01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:57,330 I think it only takes a certain percentage. And then the rest of 1528 01:41:57,330 --> 01:42:01,260 the block blocker follows. So we are saying that is if you can 1529 01:42:01,260 --> 01:42:09,990 get 20 to 25% to realize it, then the rest will go along. And 1530 01:42:09,990 --> 01:42:16,080 that's very and I think we're reaching that nexus point of 1531 01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:19,170 because you're hearing the different groups have these 1532 01:42:19,170 --> 01:42:23,670 conversations you're hearing it come from the the conservative 1533 01:42:23,670 --> 01:42:32,100 side, the super woke millennial side of the the I'm not going to 1534 01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:36,120 vote unless I get some tangible side, which I wish I'm a part 1535 01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:40,860 of. We're all coming to the same point from different angles. And 1536 01:42:40,890 --> 01:42:45,600 I think once we get there and we see the results of it, 1537 01:42:46,020 --> 01:42:47,940 somebody's gonna have to come talk to us. 1538 01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:52,650 Yeah, and I think for me, for me, it'll be interesting to see 1539 01:42:52,650 --> 01:42:57,630 not whether you'll see a block vote for Democrats or with 1540 01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:02,910 withheld vote. I think I think we may even see withheld vote, 1541 01:43:03,210 --> 01:43:06,600 or something goes to Trump. I think that's where it may be. 1542 01:43:08,130 --> 01:43:09,690 Because if we hit that 1543 01:43:09,690 --> 01:43:18,030 55% mark of the low all time low 50 55% Mark is Open Season for 1544 01:43:18,030 --> 01:43:22,470 the blog. Now could I entertain? Can I make one suggestion? Sure. 1545 01:43:22,500 --> 01:43:28,710 Instead of withholding I mean, the tangible is a free pony from 1546 01:43:28,710 --> 01:43:32,970 the guy with the Buddha on his head vermin supreme. Right? 1547 01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:37,770 Because he's promising everybody a pony. That may be maybe it's a 1548 01:43:37,770 --> 01:43:41,070 tangible that may be a guy to vote for. I have voted for him 1549 01:43:41,070 --> 01:43:45,000 in the past. So I just like you to consider that. Who is this 1550 01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:49,620 guy? You've never heard of vermin supreme? No, he's a real 1551 01:43:49,620 --> 01:43:55,110 candidate. He wears some boots on his head and promises 1552 01:43:55,110 --> 01:43:58,620 everybody a pony. He runs every year. He's a great candidate to 1553 01:43:58,620 --> 01:43:59,280 vote for. 1554 01:43:59,820 --> 01:44:02,310 Well, he thought 40 acres and with a pony he might have. 1555 01:44:04,380 --> 01:44:08,910 Alright, everybody have a have a great, a great New Year Mo was 1556 01:44:08,940 --> 01:44:14,880 fantastic. This show has made my year. Fantastic. I love the work 1557 01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,730 you do. I love working with you. And I can't wait until our next 1558 01:44:17,730 --> 01:44:18,870 show and 2020 1559 01:44:19,260 --> 01:44:24,780 show 20 The first show of 2020 just let that soak in. And as I 1560 01:44:24,780 --> 01:44:28,620 always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will 1561 01:44:28,620 --> 01:44:29,430 reveal itself. 1562 01:44:30,150 --> 01:44:33,450 I'll talk to you next year. Mo Alright, see you next year. 1563 01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:39,630 Remember mo facts.com Bye everybody. No, you don't. And 1564 01:44:39,630 --> 01:44:46,980 there may be someone else. As I sit alone knowing what I should 1565 01:44:46,980 --> 01:45:00,690 do. I can't stay away. I can stay away from you. Know I can 1566 01:45:00,690 --> 01:47:02,370 stay and that's the way it ought to be You. You always wondered 1567 01:47:02,370 --> 01:47:10,770 fine. Do I have as you asked you with me you've been so