1 00:00:05,490 --> 00:00:10,170 More facts with Adam curry for December 2 2019. This is episode 2 00:00:10,170 --> 00:00:18,930 number 17. And I'm met in the dark are you doing I noticed? 3 00:00:20,550 --> 00:00:22,500 Yeah, I'm good. You've kept me in the dark. 4 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,850 Yeah, this is one of the cases where we I didn't share with you 5 00:00:26,850 --> 00:00:31,350 what the show topic was gonna be for a reason because I want your 6 00:00:31,740 --> 00:00:33,900 gut reaction to something so, 7 00:00:34,050 --> 00:00:38,490 okay. Well, that's always exciting. If you get a gut 8 00:00:38,490 --> 00:00:42,150 reaction, you never know what can happen. Which of course is 9 00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:44,400 one of the beautiful things of this show is where we really 10 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,420 don't discuss too much ahead of time. Maybe you'll give me a 11 00:00:48,420 --> 00:00:50,760 topic or maybe I'll shoot you a couple of things that are 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,480 interesting to talk about. But we just kind of freewheel it 13 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,960 from there with most expertly put together rundown and a 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,380 reminder, this is a value for value podcast, which means 15 00:01:01,380 --> 00:01:03,450 there's no commercial interest involved. There's no 16 00:01:03,450 --> 00:01:06,870 advertising, no pitches, the only thing we ask is you 17 00:01:06,870 --> 00:01:09,150 consider how much value you received from listening to the 18 00:01:09,150 --> 00:01:12,690 show. And whatever that value is translate that into a number and 19 00:01:12,690 --> 00:01:16,230 send it off to us you can go to mo fox.com Find out how or mo 20 00:01:16,230 --> 00:01:21,510 fund me.com mo e fund me.com and participate in keeping the show 21 00:01:21,510 --> 00:01:26,190 on the air Yeah, well where do we go mo where do we start? 22 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:31,260 I guess we can get right into it. quaintest lamb trailer 23 00:01:32,460 --> 00:01:34,950 Can I ask you something? What took you so long to respond to 24 00:01:34,950 --> 00:01:37,860 me I sent you a very well crafted message freebies and 25 00:01:37,860 --> 00:01:40,350 today out of the blue you hit me up asking if you want to grab 26 00:01:40,350 --> 00:01:40,590 them 27 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,700 I don't feel like being alone. Not tonight Can 28 00:01:44,700 --> 00:01:48,180 you turn to tender to where I was tonight did you think we 29 00:01:48,180 --> 00:01:53,880 were gonna have six thought we're gonna hang out maybe get 30 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,980 to know each field executors single vector for Nash you step 31 00:01:58,980 --> 00:02:07,980 out of a vehicle for me please hurry up it's just cold enough 32 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:25,560 for myself guilty who self defense of black money 33 00:02:29,789 --> 00:02:33,059 you don't have to make sure they don't know where we are. This 34 00:02:33,059 --> 00:02:36,299 year's Kentucky my friend before going out there and he welcomed 35 00:02:36,299 --> 00:02:37,079 us into our home. 36 00:02:39,090 --> 00:02:47,310 Gave us on a believer Black Panthers Wow. Now this is a 37 00:02:47,310 --> 00:02:51,840 movie trailer that completely passed me by no idea. No idea 38 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,970 with I don't even know a lot about movies in general. I have 39 00:02:53,970 --> 00:02:55,350 no idea what this is about. 40 00:02:56,039 --> 00:03:02,609 Alright, so this is queen and Slim is a universal pitcher's 41 00:03:02,609 --> 00:03:07,679 project. It was. Let me see it was released over the weekend on 42 00:03:07,679 --> 00:03:15,059 the 27th in the United States. And it was written by Miss Lena 43 00:03:15,059 --> 00:03:28,439 wave and directed by Melina Mata Matt. So it's a caucus. So it's 44 00:03:28,469 --> 00:03:31,319 one of the lightest and I have to give credit and I'm not being 45 00:03:31,319 --> 00:03:35,549 a hater here. But I guess not what we do. But it's one of the 46 00:03:35,549 --> 00:03:38,969 finest piece of trauma based entertainment propaganda. 47 00:03:40,230 --> 00:03:44,370 When I heard the trailer all I could think of was trauma trauma 48 00:03:44,370 --> 00:03:49,080 entertainment trauma based entertainment. Okay, yes do 49 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:56,010 Yeah, so this on the show, we only address things that bleed 50 00:03:56,010 --> 00:04:03,210 over into political social political topics. So on the 51 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:08,130 socials, this has been the greatest the latest and greatest 52 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,310 asset use word game piece of propaganda. People are always 53 00:04:14,310 --> 00:04:16,830 the greatest thing since sliced bread or you have to see this 54 00:04:16,830 --> 00:04:21,120 movie. And when I see that, that's how it became. Well, I 55 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,060 saw the trailer seven months ago. It's almost like seven 56 00:04:24,060 --> 00:04:28,260 months out you see a trailer especially being a black film, 57 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,950 you know that Hollywood is pushing it pushing it pushing it 58 00:04:31,950 --> 00:04:36,060 Yeah, okay. Yeah, cuz that's that's that's a long way out to 59 00:04:36,060 --> 00:04:37,110 start off promo, 60 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:41,760 like Star Wars type timeline. Correct. And 61 00:04:42,090 --> 00:04:48,480 so the reason why I kept this under wraps is I guess you gave 62 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,180 it to me, but what did you take away from that trailer? 63 00:04:52,350 --> 00:04:55,890 Well, there was a lot going on first time I heard it, but it 64 00:04:55,890 --> 00:04:58,650 sounds like this is something with the cops killing black 65 00:04:58,650 --> 00:05:05,160 people. That's what it sounded like. To me not having seen 66 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,190 anything not having looked it up just listening, just hanging out 67 00:05:08,190 --> 00:05:11,010 with Moe and like oh yeah, okay, I get it. I know what kind of 68 00:05:11,010 --> 00:05:12,870 film this is. So yeah, 69 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,990 but in this case the rabbit got the gun. I use that term on that 70 00:05:18,990 --> 00:05:25,200 term where? Well, let's get into brand new Avery, a movie critic 71 00:05:25,230 --> 00:05:26,820 explaining the plot. But what 72 00:05:26,820 --> 00:05:31,530 is this movie queen and slim about exactly? Well, slim and 73 00:05:31,530 --> 00:05:36,510 queens first dates takes an unexpected turn when a policeman 74 00:05:36,690 --> 00:05:41,280 pulls them over for our minor traffic violation. When the 75 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:45,690 situation escalates, slim takes the officers gun and shoots them 76 00:05:45,690 --> 00:05:51,030 in self defense. Now labeled cop killers in the media, slim and 77 00:05:51,030 --> 00:05:55,950 Queen feel that they have no choice but to go on the run and 78 00:05:55,950 --> 00:06:00,570 invade the law. When a video of the incident goes viral. The 79 00:06:00,570 --> 00:06:06,000 unwitting outlaw soon become a symbol of trauma, terror, grief 80 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,440 and pain for all people across the country. 81 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,340 Brother one of these this is what you said universal? 82 00:06:14,850 --> 00:06:18,240 Yes, this is universal. And this is the same movie house that 83 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,040 gave was Harriet. 84 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,020 Ah, okay. Yes, gotcha. Harry, which of course was was no good. 85 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,090 It was no good at all. 86 00:06:28,530 --> 00:06:31,440 It was no good. No, that's completely wrong. Everything was 87 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,600 off wrong actress No, no, no, no. 88 00:06:34,410 --> 00:06:37,350 And when I say no good, I want to make make a couple of things 89 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:41,160 clear. These people that make these movies are very talented. 90 00:06:41,850 --> 00:06:47,250 The viewpoint when I say no good is the effects that the people 91 00:06:47,250 --> 00:06:51,360 that hire them to make these movies, the outcome they expect 92 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,180 from them. That's why I say no good because they these people 93 00:06:54,180 --> 00:06:59,850 are, they are talented, obvious directors and writers. And so 94 00:06:59,850 --> 00:07:03,630 it's not hate. And I know a lot of people are rolling their eyes 95 00:07:03,630 --> 00:07:07,500 right now. But I want to remind, let me say this about our 96 00:07:07,530 --> 00:07:12,300 audience. We have a very intelligent on the audience that 97 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:16,080 understands the nuanced conversation. But for some 98 00:07:16,110 --> 00:07:20,190 people that may just be coming in, and they're rolling eyes it 99 00:07:20,190 --> 00:07:21,450 think that I'm just being 100 00:07:23,130 --> 00:07:25,650 wave mo Did you get some pushback over Thanksgiving with 101 00:07:25,650 --> 00:07:28,650 the family in town and so people start moaning at you? 102 00:07:29,580 --> 00:07:32,130 Oh, no, but I know what to expect when you got the 103 00:07:32,130 --> 00:07:36,870 propaganda pieces. These knee jerk reaction. Yeah. And I want 104 00:07:36,870 --> 00:07:38,880 to remind people that I am a black man. 105 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,760 Oh, that's right. We almost forgot. Okay, good. And I am a 106 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,520 white man. Hello. Welcome to no facts with Adam curry. 107 00:07:45,690 --> 00:07:52,590 Right, so. So, as the man said in the trailer, it's about 108 00:07:52,590 --> 00:07:57,240 trauma. As I've said, it's about trauma. So I felt this 109 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,690 interesting clip about the movie. You were never really 110 00:08:00,690 --> 00:08:04,980 here with, I think Joaquin Phoenix. Yes. And they had a 111 00:08:04,980 --> 00:08:10,410 very interesting take on how movies capture and portray 112 00:08:10,410 --> 00:08:10,950 trauma. 113 00:08:11,130 --> 00:08:14,910 I want you to listen to something. The sound of 114 00:08:14,910 --> 00:08:19,350 fireworks. Let's take away the lights. For now. The sound seems 115 00:08:19,350 --> 00:08:23,100 pretty normal and familiar. But after hearing it for a while, 116 00:08:23,430 --> 00:08:26,790 the sporadic bursts and crackling combustions begin to 117 00:08:26,790 --> 00:08:30,540 form an invisible nuisance. What if I asked you to listen to this 118 00:08:30,540 --> 00:08:34,800 for an hour, a day or a week? Everywhere you went to? And even 119 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,860 when you had to go to sleep? Forced to even find it in your 120 00:08:37,860 --> 00:08:41,550 dreams? It would become unbearable and exhausting. How 121 00:08:41,550 --> 00:08:44,910 would you be able to go about your day, your normal tasks and 122 00:08:44,910 --> 00:08:47,850 interactions would be greatly affected? It says if you're 123 00:08:47,850 --> 00:08:52,260 living in a disorienting reality apart from everyone else, always 124 00:08:52,260 --> 00:08:56,370 on edge at the mercy of the next destabilising pop, hoping for a 125 00:08:56,370 --> 00:08:59,520 moment of silence. While preparing to make the film you 126 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,060 are never really here. Director Lynn Ramsay gave a recording of 127 00:09:03,060 --> 00:09:07,140 fireworks to Joaquin Phoenix to prepare him for his role. It's 128 00:09:07,140 --> 00:09:10,050 an interesting way to introduce someone to the mindset of a 129 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:13,920 person afflicted by a traumatic event. Trauma is a relentless 130 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,250 and constant assailant that can intrude in all aspects of a 131 00:09:17,250 --> 00:09:20,550 person's life. It's an invisible aggressor with the power of 132 00:09:20,550 --> 00:09:23,730 reminding you that it can break you whenever it wants. And that 133 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:26,220 even time as difficulty of silencing it. 134 00:09:27,150 --> 00:09:30,450 You know, when I listened to that, if you just add some drugs 135 00:09:30,450 --> 00:09:33,000 to it, you've got a perfect MK Ultra program. 136 00:09:35,310 --> 00:09:39,480 And they said traumas the perfect assailant that it can 137 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:44,250 strike at any time. And what these films do, are set out to 138 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:49,200 do and I'm going to prove my case is to reaffirm that trauma 139 00:09:49,230 --> 00:09:54,120 and to bring it I keep keep keep it's like update to the 140 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,780 firmware. You know, we gotta keep them in a state of trauma 141 00:09:57,870 --> 00:09:58,710 at all times. 142 00:09:58,770 --> 00:10:02,190 Okay, so hold on a second. What I understand now is the way this 143 00:10:02,220 --> 00:10:07,140 the path of this particular episode is everybody's 144 00:10:07,140 --> 00:10:09,600 traumatized one way or the other, in particular from 145 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,950 mainstream media. There's different types of it. Some are 146 00:10:13,950 --> 00:10:17,250 targeted, some are general, some everybody has, there's some very 147 00:10:17,250 --> 00:10:20,460 specific ones to groups. And what we're going to do here is 148 00:10:20,460 --> 00:10:23,820 we're going to update everybody's firmware to clear 149 00:10:23,820 --> 00:10:24,780 out their brains 150 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,730 knows to update the victimization mentality in 151 00:10:29,910 --> 00:10:34,650 quote, unquote, black people, no, okay. So that's why you have 152 00:10:34,650 --> 00:10:38,430 the slave movies and the slave movies have really run its 153 00:10:38,430 --> 00:10:44,190 course because people have gotten aware of what they want 154 00:10:44,190 --> 00:10:47,130 to do with the slave movie. So now they have to, they have to 155 00:10:47,130 --> 00:10:51,690 do a pivot to a new type of traumatization. 156 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,750 So the so the slavery the koonta, Kente is no longer 157 00:10:54,750 --> 00:10:57,150 triggering the way it used to. Now we've got to do something a 158 00:10:57,150 --> 00:10:58,110 little more updated. 159 00:10:58,890 --> 00:11:02,610 Yes, because people that are aware, you don't get the same 160 00:11:02,610 --> 00:11:06,030 crowd. So now you have to get, you know, give the crowd 161 00:11:06,030 --> 00:11:11,850 something new with the same memes and tropes. But um, yeah, 162 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,160 so that's, that's, that's what we're seeing in Hollywood right 163 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,280 now. Like I said, throughout this episode, throughout this 164 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,780 episode, I will prove my case. But one of the things just on 165 00:11:21,780 --> 00:11:27,990 the surface level, is that the main characters in this movie as 166 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:31,680 well as in Harriet, are not a das actors. 167 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:35,790 Okay, and is that important for this particular movie? Could it 168 00:11:35,790 --> 00:11:39,810 just be anyone who's brown, black, off white color, etc? Or 169 00:11:39,810 --> 00:11:41,490 is it specific to the storyline? 170 00:11:42,330 --> 00:11:49,860 Well, I question why do they use not a DOS actors? Is it because 171 00:11:51,090 --> 00:11:58,170 you want to are you replacing us? Are you you don't want the 172 00:11:58,170 --> 00:12:02,430 actors to be traumatized on set, where a not a nice person, they 173 00:12:02,430 --> 00:12:05,850 might not have the same triggers. I mean, it's several 174 00:12:05,850 --> 00:12:07,800 different reasons why, or perhaps 175 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,710 they they did a casting and they thought these actors were best 176 00:12:10,710 --> 00:12:14,190 suited for the role with their experience, their acting skills 177 00:12:14,190 --> 00:12:15,480 and their overall looks. 178 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:22,170 This can be true as well. But when you start to see 23456 data 179 00:12:22,170 --> 00:12:28,110 points of eight off Das, foundational blacks, whatever 180 00:12:28,110 --> 00:12:30,360 you want it whatever you want to do native blacks, that's the 181 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,050 term we chose to use on this show. When you start to see 182 00:12:34,050 --> 00:12:37,740 those being replaced by non native black actors get to ask 183 00:12:37,740 --> 00:12:38,400 what's going on? 184 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,390 It does get your attention. And by the way, I've tried out 185 00:12:42,390 --> 00:12:45,510 native blacks with white friends of mine doesn't go over well. 186 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,599 I'm sure it doesn't hugely triggering. 187 00:12:49,950 --> 00:12:53,070 If I add on to it, hey, my best friend Moe was black. And he 188 00:12:53,070 --> 00:12:56,070 told me to say that this just the hole gets deeper. It's 189 00:12:56,070 --> 00:12:56,580 worse. 190 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,680 Yeah, shut up. 191 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,600 Okay, I'm a baby. Boom. Exactly. 192 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:09,240 So this is a surface level and it's not really important to 193 00:13:09,270 --> 00:13:12,720 this movie, but I'm just bringing it up in just try I'm 194 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,770 sure sure stating a trend that we're seeing here. So Brenda 195 00:13:16,770 --> 00:13:20,040 Avery, he makes note of the same thing I've identified. 196 00:13:20,309 --> 00:13:23,249 And of course, guys, you know, from the trailers and all the 197 00:13:23,489 --> 00:13:26,429 promotions and marketing that this star has done your Kalia 198 00:13:26,429 --> 00:13:30,509 who was in get out. He was also some cardio. He was also in 199 00:13:30,509 --> 00:13:33,239 widows and I did not like that movie. And I did not like his 200 00:13:33,239 --> 00:13:37,319 performance in widows as well. But I thought he did a great job 201 00:13:37,349 --> 00:13:40,829 and get out. And a newcomer that I've never heard of before 202 00:13:40,829 --> 00:13:46,529 George Jodie Turner Smith. She's done a lot of television. She's 203 00:13:46,529 --> 00:13:50,249 a British actor, as well as Mr. Daniel Kalia, who also was in 204 00:13:50,249 --> 00:13:53,819 Black Panther as well Combi I forgot to mention that and you 205 00:13:53,819 --> 00:13:56,639 know, those are two main leaves. And you know, when I first saw 206 00:13:56,639 --> 00:13:59,789 the trailer for this movie, my expectations were mediocre. I 207 00:13:59,789 --> 00:14:02,579 mean, it looked good. I did a reaction to it. You can, you 208 00:14:02,579 --> 00:14:05,729 know, go check that out on my channel. But at the same time, I 209 00:14:05,729 --> 00:14:08,399 just wasn't too thrilled with it. Because you know, while the 210 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:12,059 sinners onto black American characters, you know, I was just 211 00:14:12,059 --> 00:14:15,479 a bit disappointed because if you know me if it is a black 212 00:14:15,509 --> 00:14:18,869 American character, I want that as rows fulfilled by actual 213 00:14:18,869 --> 00:14:20,669 black American actors 214 00:14:20,670 --> 00:14:23,670 and actresses. And who was Brandon Avery because I couldn't 215 00:14:23,670 --> 00:14:24,930 find them very quickly. 216 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,800 Oh, Bret. Brandon. Avi, he's a YouTube movie critic. He has a 217 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:35,640 pretty sizable channel think it's just my opinion, I want to 218 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,640 say is his name or his channel right offhand, but if you search 219 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,870 brand name, you will find him he does a lot of movie critiques, 220 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,820 especially being black films. So good. That's that's where we 221 00:14:47,820 --> 00:14:55,770 are. So I'm not the only person that recognize that. A das 222 00:14:55,770 --> 00:14:59,610 foundational blacks actors me roles were being filled by 223 00:14:59,610 --> 00:15:03,840 British Actors a couple years ago 70 Oh, Jackson made the same 224 00:15:03,870 --> 00:15:05,160 observation thing in 225 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:10,260 my mind is, I know that young brothers in the movie, and he's 226 00:15:10,260 --> 00:15:15,690 British. So there are a lot of British black British actors 227 00:15:15,690 --> 00:15:20,700 that work all the time. So, I tend to wonder, what would that 228 00:15:20,700 --> 00:15:25,320 movie have been with an American brother who really feel fans 229 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,260 that in a way, cuz I mean, Daniel grew up in a country 230 00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:31,740 where, you know, they've been interracial dating for 100 231 00:15:31,740 --> 00:15:36,510 years, you know, and I'm sure the director helped. And, you 232 00:15:36,510 --> 00:15:39,870 know, some things are universal, but everything a That's right, 233 00:15:39,900 --> 00:15:42,780 you know, which was one of the things about you know, about 234 00:15:42,780 --> 00:15:46,680 Selma and some other things I go, Well, you know, that's some 235 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,870 brothers from America that could have been in that movie, too. 236 00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:51,660 But, uh, you know, had a different idea about how that 237 00:15:51,660 --> 00:15:54,120 works, or about how King thinks about is that 238 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,570 casting thing where you get the British black actor versus the 239 00:15:57,570 --> 00:16:00,900 American black actor to play the black? What is that that cheapen 240 00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:01,410 in us one 241 00:16:01,410 --> 00:16:08,190 day? All right, I have to say one other thing. When it comes 242 00:16:08,190 --> 00:16:14,490 to choosing black British actors over black American actors, this 243 00:16:14,490 --> 00:16:18,330 pisses me off to the British Invasion, in general, I'm a 244 00:16:18,330 --> 00:16:22,320 little tired of. And it's true, they do have a different rate 245 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,410 scale. There's a whole bunch of other reasons why Hollywood 246 00:16:25,410 --> 00:16:28,410 loves them. But Hollywood also is just completely biased 247 00:16:28,410 --> 00:16:33,240 towards the British actors. And I don't I think Hollywood has an 248 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,430 issue with that as well. But certainly, when you make it, 249 00:16:35,610 --> 00:16:38,970 black actors, then it's just kind of silly. It's one thing to 250 00:16:38,970 --> 00:16:42,990 be non a DOS, it's one thing to be non American altogether. That 251 00:16:42,990 --> 00:16:46,020 is clearly the off color, coin phrase. 252 00:16:46,890 --> 00:16:51,780 And maybe people may be overly sensitive. Just because we do 253 00:16:51,780 --> 00:16:54,870 feel like we're being replaced. We had this conversation a few 254 00:16:54,870 --> 00:16:58,440 episodes ago, because of multiracial people. We feel like 255 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,010 we've been replaced by that. due to immigration, we feel like 256 00:17:02,010 --> 00:17:04,350 we're being replaced by that. And then when you see it start 257 00:17:04,350 --> 00:17:09,540 reflecting on on film, on screen, where you like, who was 258 00:17:09,540 --> 00:17:14,100 that person? We had the Obama effect, where you really take a 259 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:15,420 look at him, he wasn't 260 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,070 eight and also native black. So it's like when you start putting 261 00:17:20,070 --> 00:17:24,240 these data points together, it becomes it irks you, in a way. 262 00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:26,790 And I would say like, what is really going on, perhaps the 263 00:17:26,790 --> 00:17:32,400 Obama presidency, has left an indelible mark of disappointment 264 00:17:32,910 --> 00:17:38,040 for foundational blacks. And because Obama just didn't do 265 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:38,550 much. 266 00:17:39,450 --> 00:17:44,970 Yeah, he didn't do much at all. But then it's like, did we 267 00:17:44,970 --> 00:17:47,460 expect him to when we start really started looking at his 268 00:17:47,460 --> 00:17:48,060 background? 269 00:17:48,060 --> 00:17:50,970 Well, we thought we thought Michelle would rub off on him, 270 00:17:50,970 --> 00:17:54,390 and it would help a bit. And that was kind of the backstop, I 271 00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:55,530 think for the argument. 272 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,600 Yeah. But it was clear that he was a very elite. And I think 273 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,250 that's the another thing with the maybe British thing, because 274 00:18:05,850 --> 00:18:13,110 there's a certain elitism with black immigrants, because let me 275 00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:16,920 make this clear. A large portion of black immigrants are elites 276 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,430 from their country, their home country, not all but a sizable 277 00:18:20,430 --> 00:18:23,880 portion. Right. But I don't want to get stuck on this point too 278 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:30,210 much. But of course, with Samuel Jackson said that he had to 279 00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:31,590 clarify his comments. 280 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,170 Samuel L. Jackson clarifies comments he made about casting 281 00:18:40,170 --> 00:18:43,770 black British actors in African American roles. 282 00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:48,030 There are a lot of British black British actors that work all the 283 00:18:48,030 --> 00:18:51,990 time. So I tend to wonder, what would that movie have been when 284 00:18:51,990 --> 00:18:56,520 an American brother who really understands that in a way, you 285 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,590 actually take a snippet of what somebody says, and you make a 286 00:18:58,590 --> 00:19:01,290 headline out of it, you listen to the conversation, you know, 287 00:19:01,290 --> 00:19:04,500 turns to another thing, you know, I totally respect and love 288 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,560 all those UK guys that come over here and work. And understand 289 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,440 that coming here, it gives them a unique opportunity to advance 290 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,720 their careers, and hopefully go back home and create 291 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,630 opportunities for their friends and other guys and let them know 292 00:19:15,630 --> 00:19:18,390 that they can come here, and they can succeed, too. They 293 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:23,310 know, I'm black. You might wanna you know, as far as you know, we 294 00:19:23,310 --> 00:19:27,180 talked about get out and I know Daniel, for a very long time. I 295 00:19:27,180 --> 00:19:30,240 knew Daniel when he was a young writer actor in the UK, you 296 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,120 know, I had literally introduced him to his agent. So I'm looking 297 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:35,730 forward to coming over here. You know, hopefully I run into y'all 298 00:19:35,730 --> 00:19:39,330 somewhere we can talk it out and we can work it out. It's all 299 00:19:39,330 --> 00:19:39,660 good. 300 00:19:41,490 --> 00:19:44,400 Yeah, he said with clenched teeth. This is all good. 301 00:19:44,430 --> 00:19:48,180 My best friend. My best friend is black British. That's right. 302 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:51,420 I can't wait to hang out with him. Yeah, so. 303 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,330 Yeah. So he had to recant his statement and I understand why. 304 00:19:57,570 --> 00:20:00,090 Well, yeah, he's part of the system to back from how They 305 00:20:00,090 --> 00:20:04,980 work basically you call those roles the keep coming. You had 306 00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:10,050 to play you have to play along. But I want to make a point that 307 00:20:10,350 --> 00:20:12,690 in the conversation where he made this statement, he was 308 00:20:12,690 --> 00:20:15,540 talking at home and he said we wanted to urban radio stations 309 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:19,950 in New York. And he was speaking to Mr. Ebro. Mr. Ebro is going 310 00:20:19,950 --> 00:20:23,100 to come back, come back a few clips from now, but just keep 311 00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:25,860 that in mind. All the listeners out there and you as well, Adam, 312 00:20:25,860 --> 00:20:32,400 okay, so. So Miss Lena, wait, she visited hot 97 nondepressed 313 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,750 run for, for Queen and slim. And she's the she wrote she wrote 314 00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:41,430 the movie, correct. She's, she's the writer of the movie. And she 315 00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:44,400 was asked about British actors playing American roles. 316 00:20:44,670 --> 00:20:47,520 So how do you feel about there's been a conversation that we now 317 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,060 have had on our show, and it's been a lot of places about black 318 00:20:51,060 --> 00:20:54,960 British actors playing American parts. Queen and slim, 319 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,500 obviously, is a black story, but it is also an American story. 320 00:20:59,250 --> 00:21:02,550 Daniel, of course, is an amazing British actor. What are your 321 00:21:02,550 --> 00:21:03,750 thoughts on that whole? 322 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,650 Honestly, I think it's divisive. You know, and I think it's, it 323 00:21:07,650 --> 00:21:12,120 doesn't move the culture forward. And I always say this, 324 00:21:12,150 --> 00:21:14,790 you know, for anyone that has that argument, or like, oh, 325 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,980 let's get some American, whatever, as at the end of the 326 00:21:16,980 --> 00:21:20,340 day, if you're black and you get pulled over by a police officer, 327 00:21:20,340 --> 00:21:22,470 he's not gonna not kill you because you have a British 328 00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:26,700 accent. That is a fact. So I'm not sure. You know, black is 329 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:29,970 black is black is black. And we all get discriminated against. 330 00:21:29,970 --> 00:21:32,010 We all get treated like second class citizens in a country that 331 00:21:32,010 --> 00:21:37,050 our ancestors helped build. And, to me, I'm a big proponent of 332 00:21:37,050 --> 00:21:40,110 black unity. I don't care where you come from. If you black we 333 00:21:40,110 --> 00:21:40,530 family. 334 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,190 Oh, well, first of all, I just disagree. If you're pulled over 335 00:21:44,190 --> 00:21:47,520 and you hit the cop with a British accent, which you might 336 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,080 want to try one time. Just as an idea. I think you're good to go. 337 00:21:52,980 --> 00:21:55,680 Oh, it's one of those guys. Yeah, he's What are you actor? 338 00:21:55,770 --> 00:22:04,110 Yeah. So she slipped something in there. She says that, of all 339 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,520 our answers is a country that all our answers do is help 340 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,180 build. Yeah. I want to play that 341 00:22:12,180 --> 00:22:16,050 again. Play that again. So we all in this together. You know, 342 00:22:16,050 --> 00:22:18,990 black is black is black is black. And we all get 343 00:22:18,990 --> 00:22:21,000 discriminated against. We all get treated like second class 344 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,590 citizens in a country that our ancestors have built. And to me, 345 00:22:25,650 --> 00:22:28,470 I'm a big proponent of black unity. I don't care where you 346 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:30,330 come from. If you black we family. 347 00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:36,420 Wow. Okay. I agree with most of her statement there. Just one 348 00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:40,440 little bit of the pee in the mattress. This country that all 349 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:48,600 our ancestors helped build No. Robe. Yeah. Of of foundational 350 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,980 blacks, Athos versus non native blacks. This is the rub. Now you 351 00:22:52,980 --> 00:23:01,230 want to come and claim. Ownership of a legacy? That's 352 00:23:01,230 --> 00:23:05,130 not really yours. I wouldn't be very offended. I would I would 353 00:23:05,790 --> 00:23:07,290 not okay, let me say, oh, no, 354 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,860 hold on. I mean, this is this is not even black or white. No, no 355 00:23:10,860 --> 00:23:15,090 bridge. Look, originally, yeah, we were all Brits who came over 356 00:23:15,090 --> 00:23:18,240 it was the original Brexit. But after that, we drew a line, you 357 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,610 know, it's like, okay, we're declaring our independence, 358 00:23:20,610 --> 00:23:25,410 we're building this country. And that was it. And the help didn't 359 00:23:25,410 --> 00:23:29,280 come from from Britain. It's a very odd thing to say. 360 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:33,930 But this is this is politically driven as globalist my whole 361 00:23:33,930 --> 00:23:37,710 point this is, this is the whole, all black is his 362 00:23:37,710 --> 00:23:40,860 monolith. And we have to stick together, you can't divide that, 363 00:23:40,860 --> 00:23:45,030 you know, can't divide us. And you know, this is the thing is, 364 00:23:45,660 --> 00:23:52,290 all of this is plays a role into politics. All of this is state 365 00:23:52,290 --> 00:23:57,510 hurting, you know, we're all one black mana live. And if we're 366 00:23:57,510 --> 00:24:02,490 all going to receive anything is going to be for everybody. And 367 00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:06,420 as we talked about in previous episodes, this is not the case. 368 00:24:06,450 --> 00:24:10,170 That's also the reality and the ratio of history. It's not cool. 369 00:24:11,129 --> 00:24:13,919 And I would expect to be checked. If I went to Jamaica 370 00:24:13,919 --> 00:24:18,239 and like, yeah, all my SSL build this, or if I went, you know, to 371 00:24:18,239 --> 00:24:25,709 any other non American Place and try to lay claim to what they've 372 00:24:25,709 --> 00:24:30,809 built. So I don't so I'm just being fair in that, in that 373 00:24:30,809 --> 00:24:36,539 sense. So Ebro, the one that sent me on Jackson was talking 374 00:24:36,539 --> 00:24:40,379 to before two years prior, when he made the comment about black 375 00:24:40,379 --> 00:24:45,239 actors. He's going to chime in on the British actors play 376 00:24:45,239 --> 00:24:46,739 American roles. Well, that's 377 00:24:46,740 --> 00:24:50,430 pan Africanism. Right. And I think that's, that's the piece 378 00:24:50,430 --> 00:24:55,290 that the slave master right and the plantation has programmed 379 00:24:55,290 --> 00:24:59,970 into American blacks is thinking that our experience is somehow 380 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,270 disconnected completely right from the transatlantic slave 381 00:25:03,270 --> 00:25:06,510 trade and slaves that went to Jamaica slaves and went to 382 00:25:06,510 --> 00:25:09,660 Dominican Republic, Brazil, right? The colonialism that took 383 00:25:09,660 --> 00:25:13,620 place on the continent in Africa. Right, right, um, slaves 384 00:25:13,620 --> 00:25:17,670 that ended up in Europe via that same Yeah, colonialism, right. 385 00:25:17,670 --> 00:25:21,750 So our brains are programmed to think that somehow that's not 386 00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:26,670 us. Right? That is us. And the power actual dynamic is when we 387 00:25:26,670 --> 00:25:30,420 separate ourselves because of that. That's how they continue 388 00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:32,250 to keep us right. Weak. 389 00:25:32,970 --> 00:25:38,040 Wow, that's interesting that what a reversal that is, cheese, 390 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,850 okay, so just to distill in my brain, he said, All right, all 391 00:25:41,850 --> 00:25:45,750 the slaves all across the world all came from Africa. Not true, 392 00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:49,590 but okay, well, we'll give them that. Therefore, you are, by 393 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:55,920 definition united. In your pan Africanism, which is by Pan 394 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,950 Africanism is a political movement. It's a political 395 00:25:58,980 --> 00:26:04,380 political statement, political grouping. And therefore, the 396 00:26:04,380 --> 00:26:07,530 part that I find interesting is magically everybody helped build 397 00:26:07,530 --> 00:26:08,160 America. 398 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:16,410 Exactly. And if you want to take yourself in, you know, identify 399 00:26:16,410 --> 00:26:22,170 yourself as a subset of that group that's anti black or anti 400 00:26:22,170 --> 00:26:26,730 pan Africanist when nobody has made a complaint about people 401 00:26:26,730 --> 00:26:30,840 who refer to themselves as Haitian or Jamaican, Jamaican or 402 00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:34,230 whatever. All the West Indies. Yeah, yeah. All the West Indies 403 00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:38,760 identify themselves. May they fly their flag? Oh, that's like, 404 00:26:39,030 --> 00:26:41,520 pretty pretty much any immigrant group when it comes to America, 405 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,820 they identify themselves by their home country Sure. Where 406 00:26:45,030 --> 00:26:48,750 this is where Athos has a weird, we have a weird experience 407 00:26:48,750 --> 00:26:49,320 because 408 00:26:49,710 --> 00:26:52,890 your flag the Stars and Stripes, my friend, 409 00:26:53,459 --> 00:26:57,029 right? And so we're like you say, so we're reversed because 410 00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:59,999 we're, we're looked at differently because all you fly 411 00:26:59,999 --> 00:27:06,449 the flag or your your oppressor, it's like, huh, yeah. So but as 412 00:27:06,449 --> 00:27:10,319 I say, again, all of this is political. All of this has to do 413 00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:14,729 with 2020, in a weird way, because it's like, stay on, stay 414 00:27:14,729 --> 00:27:17,729 in the herd, stay on the plantation, and do everything 415 00:27:17,729 --> 00:27:20,819 expected to do with you and main black, and one of them is 416 00:27:20,819 --> 00:27:26,489 voting. I know that's a stretch. But we're going to see later, as 417 00:27:26,489 --> 00:27:30,089 I promise, how films are used as mind control. 418 00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:32,970 And it's so good. When you say it's a stretch, that means your 419 00:27:32,970 --> 00:27:35,910 mind is going to be exercised on this very show. 420 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:43,380 Yes. So Linda wife, she goes into the characters of Queen and 421 00:27:43,380 --> 00:27:43,980 slim, 422 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:48,900 finding the characters was interesting, because I didn't 423 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:52,800 want them to be prototypes, but yet, and so they are prototypes, 424 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,470 you know, for every black man and every black woman, although 425 00:27:55,470 --> 00:27:58,560 we're not all a monolith. But I really kind of wanted to put 426 00:27:58,770 --> 00:28:01,770 pieces of us into these characters so that way we can 427 00:28:01,770 --> 00:28:04,410 see ourselves and them to me, the templates were a mock of 428 00:28:04,410 --> 00:28:09,390 Mexico to King in terms of ideologies and ways of going 429 00:28:09,390 --> 00:28:11,760 through life and in the most simplest terms. 430 00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:20,970 You can see now, how they load these characters up with 431 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,170 audiology. Yes. And people always say it's just a movie Mo, 432 00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:31,080 relax. It's just no, nothing is ever just a movie. Every movie 433 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,010 from Star Wars to matrix to all even a science fiction films 434 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,930 have a sob story. To the people that have asked to see 435 00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:43,590 that's also the that's why movies we connect with movies, 436 00:28:43,620 --> 00:28:47,250 even if you don't exactly understand what is going on, you 437 00:28:47,250 --> 00:28:49,950 connect at a deep level because of the story because of the 438 00:28:49,950 --> 00:28:52,620 characters because of what's going on. It's meant it's 439 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,950 whether nefarious or not, it's always intended to connect to 440 00:28:55,950 --> 00:28:56,070 you 441 00:28:56,070 --> 00:29:01,710 somehow. And there's a lot of intersectionality into this 442 00:29:01,710 --> 00:29:06,480 movie as well. And it has a transgender female character, 443 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:14,010 her name is Goddess. So was it. So even the naming and like I 444 00:29:14,010 --> 00:29:16,950 said, the names of the characters in this movie is not 445 00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:21,390 queen and slim. It is not. And we're going to let lean away 446 00:29:21,420 --> 00:29:22,920 explain queen and slim. 447 00:29:23,130 --> 00:29:25,410 My biggest pet peeve is hearing characters names and scripts. If 448 00:29:25,410 --> 00:29:27,330 you ask anyone that works with me knows that that's what I 449 00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:30,780 think, scratch out very often. Because again, it's about 450 00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:33,120 groundedness and reality if you think about having a 451 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,920 conversation with the person, how many times you say their 452 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,060 name, and the conversation. So now I know why people do it. 453 00:29:39,150 --> 00:29:41,670 They do it because they want the audience to be aware of what the 454 00:29:41,670 --> 00:29:43,980 characters names are. They forget the character's names, 455 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:50,010 but the truth is the names are not important. It's really about 456 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:55,260 who these characters are. And again, wanting for people to see 457 00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:59,310 themselves in the characters and essence anyone can be queen 458 00:29:59,340 --> 00:30:01,920 anybody can lease loan it's all of these are sort of like 459 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,820 nicknames we all give each other within the black community you 460 00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:08,280 know whether it be a black mass and what up queen or whatever 461 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:08,790 slum. 462 00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:20,160 Oh, okay I guess to do that in Britain to Queen slim now that's 463 00:30:20,670 --> 00:30:24,330 not just a black thing by the way. This is universal as far as 464 00:30:24,330 --> 00:30:27,330 I know well maybe it goes back to the 80s But people would call 465 00:30:27,330 --> 00:30:31,470 me slim and Queen is the thing of today slay Queen that's a 466 00:30:31,470 --> 00:30:33,030 very white girl thing actually. 467 00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:39,180 Yep. But look at the disparity between the two names slam is a 468 00:30:39,180 --> 00:30:40,050 ordinary 469 00:30:41,490 --> 00:30:42,300 loser dude, 470 00:30:42,330 --> 00:30:45,510 a slim Okay, you got no muscles. You're nothing but here's the 471 00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:46,170 queen. 472 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:52,230 Exalted, like you said, it's like Queen. She's a queen. So I 473 00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:56,340 had this, I did some digging around you tube. And I thought 474 00:30:56,340 --> 00:30:59,520 this female and I didn't capture her name. I'm sorry for that 475 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:06,210 guys. But she is a pro woman, pro feminist. You're a blogger, 476 00:31:06,210 --> 00:31:11,490 blogger. And she talks about the stereotypes used in Black movies 477 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,500 and explain what is a queen. 478 00:31:13,710 --> 00:31:17,220 Today I'm going to talk about stereotypes. And I'm going to 479 00:31:17,220 --> 00:31:21,360 discuss four different stereotypes. The mammy the Jezza 480 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,720 Bell, the Sapphire and the queen. And then last we have the 481 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,810 queen, which I hate so much because so many people are using 482 00:31:27,810 --> 00:31:31,140 it nowadays and so annoying, right because the queen is just 483 00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:34,620 strong this binary binary between like this Jessie Bell, 484 00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:40,530 you know, hyper sexualized, fast black girl, and then this 485 00:31:40,530 --> 00:31:44,010 respectable woman, right? She's smart, she's in her book, she 486 00:31:44,010 --> 00:31:47,280 doesn't go out she has natural hair. It's all these respectable 487 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,910 qualities of what people think is respectable right? And what 488 00:31:50,910 --> 00:31:54,150 really is really baseless. This is really nonsensical because it 489 00:31:54,150 --> 00:31:57,510 really means nothing. It's it's literally what is it? It's a way 490 00:31:57,510 --> 00:32:00,840 for men to exert their dominance over you know, black woman, 491 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,550 right? It's like, if you don't fit into this box, and you're 492 00:32:02,550 --> 00:32:03,720 automatically not a queen, it's 493 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,390 Oh, that's interesting. I have a very different take on that. Now 494 00:32:09,390 --> 00:32:13,830 the African Queen is has very high standing Queen Latifah. You 495 00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:15,030 don't can't touch her. 496 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,410 When she's talking about how it's used in modern day, yes. 497 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,920 intersectional circles Gotcha. How was perceived and it's 498 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:29,520 amazing Lena Wait, who's a member of the LGBT community? We 499 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,490 use that title Queen if it's perceived that way as a 500 00:32:32,490 --> 00:32:39,000 stereotype. Hmm. So, but Lena Wait, she goes on to talk about 501 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,900 the white gaze. 502 00:32:40,649 --> 00:32:44,009 So for someone like me, who does care about color and cares about 503 00:32:44,069 --> 00:32:48,809 the community and the culture, I have to be mindful to figure out 504 00:32:48,809 --> 00:32:51,269 ways to get as much power as I can and tell our stories as 505 00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:54,119 authentically as I possibly can. But there's still things like if 506 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:56,099 I want to do like a black drama, there's still this thing about 507 00:32:56,099 --> 00:32:59,249 like, well, can they can they be more? Can they be more levity? 508 00:32:59,249 --> 00:33:02,729 Can they smile more? Can they do this, or I don't understand 509 00:33:02,729 --> 00:33:06,359 that. So we still sometimes have to water down our work so that 510 00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,939 we can get it on the air or get it on the screen. And that's why 511 00:33:08,939 --> 00:33:13,499 I think Queensland is so unique. Because I said to them, this 512 00:33:13,499 --> 00:33:17,339 will not be touched by the white gaze. Like we've been watching 513 00:33:17,339 --> 00:33:22,229 the Osmo GRC. Yeah, white people white boys, white hands why 514 00:33:22,229 --> 00:33:25,319 eyes? This is this is for us. 515 00:33:26,670 --> 00:33:31,890 Okay, white gays a term I've not come across before. 516 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,790 Let's be clear, she says she takes ownership for everything 517 00:33:38,790 --> 00:33:41,700 in this movie, because she told the white people in Hollywood, 518 00:33:41,940 --> 00:33:47,790 this project is hands off. That's what she just said. But 519 00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:51,960 for you to cast certain characters in a certain way. 520 00:33:52,410 --> 00:34:00,600 Queen being one of them. Let's see. Queen, I will do some more 521 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,430 digging. And I actually found the casting call for Queen. Oh, 522 00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:11,760 really? Yes. And let's see here, said queen. She should be brown 523 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,480 skinned it. If she were a slave. She wouldn't have worked in the 524 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,220 fields and had a tough exterior for a reason. This is this is 525 00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:23,040 how they're casting their movies. I'm 526 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,160 kind of superficial. 527 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,270 So here and here's another thing from the screw. So there's 528 00:34:30,270 --> 00:34:33,630 another character in there called Uncle Earl. And this is 529 00:34:33,630 --> 00:34:36,060 from the script itself because the script was actually public. 530 00:34:36,330 --> 00:34:39,900 Publicize on social media. It says Queens open the door to 531 00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:44,490 find her uncle Earl county money by hand. There's lots of Uncle 532 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:52,320 Earl is like chicken George if he wasn't a slave. Okay. So this 533 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,000 is this is what she's selling to Hollywood. And now you see why I 534 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,250 have a problem with it and I know there's what's going goes 535 00:34:59,250 --> 00:35:02,940 on behind it. behind the closed doors, but now with this movie, 536 00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:07,230 it's being publicized, we're starting to see behind the 537 00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:11,580 scenes and it's kind of like she's a gatekeeper. These people 538 00:35:11,580 --> 00:35:14,040 in Hollywood are gatekeepers, like, I can give you the black 539 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,880 experience. 540 00:35:15,390 --> 00:35:20,670 But when I hear this, isn't she actually literally giving the 541 00:35:20,670 --> 00:35:24,510 white gaze version? When when I when I hear the casting call 542 00:35:24,510 --> 00:35:27,150 like that? Oh, it's like chicken, George. I mean, that's 543 00:35:27,150 --> 00:35:29,790 a white gaze type definition, or am I missing the point? 544 00:35:30,330 --> 00:35:35,190 No, it's that's exactly the point. It's a dead ringer. And 545 00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:40,680 that is the case of she is the shield they hide behind. It's 546 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:46,410 like, Give us something that can be palatable to, to put on a big 547 00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:52,230 screen, but you give us your little flavor. This is what's 548 00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:57,150 being this is what's being I believe being negotiated behind 549 00:35:57,150 --> 00:36:01,530 the scenes. But there's this weird statement and it really 550 00:36:01,530 --> 00:36:05,220 has nothing to do with the story as we go on. But it's just a 551 00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:09,690 weird sidebar that I want to address. So this guy named 552 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:15,540 Rosenberg, a hot night seven, he's a white Jewish male. And he 553 00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:17,700 says that whites have no community, 554 00:36:17,820 --> 00:36:20,910 just blind like yo, some black people are going through some 555 00:36:21,090 --> 00:36:25,320 they need us. Boom. He said, That piece is something that I 556 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:31,530 think, you know, obviously coming from a family of black 557 00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:35,520 people and white people and seeing that on both sides. I 558 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,880 know that that takes place. But mainstream America doesn't see 559 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,900 black America that 560 00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:42,780 right. But also this is important to point out that that 561 00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:46,920 does not exist for white people. There may maybe on some crazy 562 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,250 clandestine, racist, racist world it does what in a typical 563 00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:53,640 regular person. There's no such thing as white community. That's 564 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,090 not a thing. 565 00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:58,890 Well, first of all, obviously, Rosenberg was invited to the 566 00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:01,830 barbecue. So he speaks from huge experience. 567 00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:10,830 Yeah, Africa. The Cook. Cook row. Yeah. Rosenberg, um, I 568 00:37:10,830 --> 00:37:13,950 think he was filling his privilege kind of like showing 569 00:37:13,950 --> 00:37:17,040 through. So now he has to downtown. Oh, well, white people 570 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,530 don't really have a community as him being a Caucasian Jewish 571 00:37:22,530 --> 00:37:26,790 person. They have one to Titus knit communities known to man. 572 00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:31,830 Oh, yeah. Well, of course, Jews. A lot of Jews do not consider 573 00:37:31,830 --> 00:37:34,590 themselves white. And that's the and that's a little caveat. We 574 00:37:34,590 --> 00:37:35,280 got to put they're 575 00:37:36,780 --> 00:37:38,010 interested. I know that. 576 00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:41,340 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Many Jews say white. I'm not white. I'm 577 00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:45,870 Jewish. It's different than that. And I can't speak to that. 578 00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:50,520 Any more than I can speak to black but I does one thing I 579 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,190 will say. I personally am sick and tired of this whole 580 00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:58,260 community concept because that's bullshit. The LGBTQ q ia P K. K 581 00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:03,660 LMNOP. Community is no community no and and I'm sure that you are 582 00:38:03,660 --> 00:38:06,930 not in the same community as some gangbanger in in 583 00:38:06,930 --> 00:38:14,130 Compton. Know, your culture is what ties you to a community 584 00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:19,500 thank you. crumbs off of morals and shared morals and shared 585 00:38:20,430 --> 00:38:25,890 experience and experience. Yeah. But I thought it very nice. Like 586 00:38:25,890 --> 00:38:27,750 I said, this is a sidebar, I just thought it was very 587 00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:31,410 disingenuous of Rosenberg to say he, we don't have a community 588 00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:34,290 when Dude, your ideal 589 00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:37,500 ultimate community is Jewish. Yes, of course. 590 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,850 This is gonna show you when you the only white guy in the room, 591 00:38:41,850 --> 00:38:45,390 you gotta kind of bow down and if you're standing, they will 592 00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:46,740 not let your privilege shine. 593 00:38:46,770 --> 00:38:49,530 I know, imagine doing a podcast with a black guy. It's really 594 00:38:49,530 --> 00:38:52,860 hard. You got to be on your toes all the time. It's tough. 595 00:38:54,690 --> 00:39:02,010 So, so lean away, she exposes Hollywood, and this next clip, 596 00:39:02,070 --> 00:39:04,890 and they're motors on the jackpot. 597 00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:08,130 You know, there's still battles that we got to fight and things 598 00:39:08,130 --> 00:39:11,370 that we have to do, but an example um, you know, it's 599 00:39:11,370 --> 00:39:15,690 still, here's the deal. Most networks and studios are still 600 00:39:15,690 --> 00:39:20,550 all about white guys, you know. And so, and the truth is black 601 00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:26,130 content sort of represents a jackpot a little bit right now. 602 00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:28,920 It's like, they know that this this experience can be 603 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,740 commodified. And that at the end of the day, I always tell people 604 00:39:31,770 --> 00:39:34,050 Hollywood don't care about color. They care about commerce. 605 00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:39,030 Where there you have it, yeah, it's all about the Benjamins. 606 00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:41,370 Well. Yeah, they do care about color. It's just that the color 607 00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:43,890 is green. That's it's real known. Yeah, sure. 608 00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:49,230 And she let that slip out because what we have this 609 00:39:49,290 --> 00:39:53,730 viewpoint of all these, these liberal woke, white folks in 610 00:39:53,730 --> 00:39:56,430 Hollywood, and they really just want to put the black experience 611 00:39:56,430 --> 00:40:00,540 on the screen so the whole world can see what really goes ozone 612 00:40:00,570 --> 00:40:04,500 No, no, that's a great model for you right now. 613 00:40:04,529 --> 00:40:08,309 Yes. And what I everything I hear her say in just the way I'm 614 00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:14,189 receiving it is apologize and she's in a way apologizing for 615 00:40:14,189 --> 00:40:17,159 what she did. Because she said, Well, you know, we got to do 616 00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:19,319 this as a bunch of white dudes in Hollywood. Well, you know, as 617 00:40:19,319 --> 00:40:22,049 we get we got to this gotta be it was commodity we got to sell. 618 00:40:22,049 --> 00:40:24,569 It's got to be in, we got to have the right names, everything 619 00:40:24,569 --> 00:40:26,009 is kind of an excuse. 620 00:40:26,460 --> 00:40:29,730 And this is nothing new. Because she understands what she's 621 00:40:29,730 --> 00:40:33,750 doing. And she has to apologize for it for the people that can 622 00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:38,730 really see past the bull crap. Yeah, which I am one of them. So 623 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,630 what I've identified here, we've identified this, let's turn on 624 00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:45,570 this show of child based entertainment. But what it 625 00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:52,140 really is, is this weird sub sub genre of a horror movie that For 626 00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:54,660 Colored Girls, she said that she was African American horror 627 00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:57,450 movie man, temptation was African American horror movie 628 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,420 for color girls African American horror movie. I think he has 629 00:41:00,420 --> 00:41:02,670 something to do with precious that was African American horror 630 00:41:02,670 --> 00:41:05,790 movie. I just, I don't know, man. It's just like Tyler Perry. 631 00:41:06,210 --> 00:41:09,180 He paints a very negative portrayal of black men with that 632 00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:13,980 bag like Jesus Christ, I pray it makes it seem like me shit. It'd 633 00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:17,220 be it'd be too it'd be too well off brothers, it'd be two 634 00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:18,600 brothers, that'd be doing something. 635 00:41:19,170 --> 00:41:19,740 Yeah. 636 00:41:21,330 --> 00:41:23,790 It's true. Can you think of a movie that is that it has black 637 00:41:23,790 --> 00:41:26,490 actors that is not trauma based in recent memory? 638 00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:32,130 It is going to be a comedy. These are these two? And I think 639 00:41:32,130 --> 00:41:34,590 it follows with the Hollywood model, because that's the only 640 00:41:34,590 --> 00:41:38,160 thing you see, really the two movies that you see. And large 641 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,610 quantities produced the horror movie or the comedy, right? 642 00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:45,810 Those are only two. So they say how can we we can't do slave 643 00:41:45,810 --> 00:41:54,180 movie anymore. So let's create this weird. Hybrid Hybrid of a 644 00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:59,280 shocker. Well, what's the what's the it's a it's a term for the 645 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,490 movie, I can't think of it. But it's like when you go in there. 646 00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:08,760 It's intense. You know, it's, it's an intense experience. And 647 00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:11,400 that's what they give us a thrill to realize it's very 648 00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:16,200 hard, a thriller thriller less than one. So you have a racially 649 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:23,250 based thrillers, which they give to us and black people live 650 00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:24,960 vicariously through the movie. 651 00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:30,480 And at the same time, it has to appeal to white audiences, if 652 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,530 it's going to make any money. 653 00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:37,770 Yes, it has to be safe enough where it's palatable to your 654 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,480 ordinary average white viewer, or the white person is so 655 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:47,280 sympathetic, and guilty. They feel white guilt that they'll go 656 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,070 through the movie and I've heard white people say this, I've seen 657 00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:51,990 that movie twice. It's like, 658 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,420 this is the 12 Years a Slave thinks. 659 00:42:56,580 --> 00:42:59,910 They live the paid live the opposite, like the guilt. So you 660 00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:03,120 have the victimization mentality going to see it for one reason, 661 00:43:03,390 --> 00:43:06,240 and you have the white, guilt ridden person going to see it 662 00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:09,510 for another reason. And they're both living this weird 663 00:43:09,870 --> 00:43:15,810 experience. So there you have it. But that was Charlemagne, a 664 00:43:15,810 --> 00:43:18,840 God and he identified it. He was talking about Tyler Perry 665 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,500 movies, but Tyler Perry, what Tyler Perry has done is 666 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:26,550 identified that you can have a strictly mostly black audience 667 00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:32,730 and be very lucrative. You can make a lot of money at it if 668 00:43:32,730 --> 00:43:37,830 it's niche enough. And that's what you're seeing with these 669 00:43:37,830 --> 00:43:42,120 films. So we have another clip for Charlemagne, one of our 670 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,350 frequent contributors to the show, and he talks about no more 671 00:43:46,350 --> 00:43:50,460 slave movies. Well, I saw the movie great movie, you know 672 00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:51,360 definitely deserved it. 673 00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:52,320 Your wife Blanche. 674 00:43:52,350 --> 00:43:56,010 Of course you thought that was a great movie. Oh really? 675 00:43:57,090 --> 00:43:57,990 Think it was a great movie? 676 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,410 Watch no 12 Years a Slave now you want to see that bullshit 677 00:44:01,410 --> 00:44:05,970 for what? I listen man. I'm a man a one Best Picture. salute 678 00:44:05,970 --> 00:44:08,940 them. Congratulations. I'm not in the slave movies. No more. 679 00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:11,430 Why do we need more slave movies? We got enough slave 680 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:12,060 movies, man. 681 00:44:12,059 --> 00:44:12,839 You got roots. 682 00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:16,860 You got 12 Years a Slave. We had almost died. We had Beloved, you 683 00:44:16,860 --> 00:44:20,760 got all these documentaries on slavery. We had Django which and 684 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,760 Django was my favorite slave movie of all time, by the way. 685 00:44:23,970 --> 00:44:26,010 And the reason is my favorite movie of all time, because 686 00:44:26,010 --> 00:44:30,090 Django wasn't no victim. Hi, Django, Bert, the plantation 687 00:44:30,090 --> 00:44:33,090 down, killed all the slave masters killed all the house 688 00:44:33,090 --> 00:44:35,820 Negroes and rode off into the sunset with Kerry Washington. 689 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,150 That's the kind of slave movies I like movie that we're very, 690 00:44:39,150 --> 00:44:41,010 very happy ending. Okay. 691 00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:45,360 Why am I starting to like Charlemagne a little bit this 692 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,410 can this can't stand. 693 00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:51,630 This is the thing. And that's the beauty about being a 694 00:44:51,630 --> 00:44:54,090 gatekeeper. He was saying just enough. 695 00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:57,330 Yeah, you can keep your black card. Yeah, you're right. You're 696 00:44:57,330 --> 00:44:57,750 right. 697 00:44:57,780 --> 00:45:02,070 But then they slipped a little Oh, you know that no look in 698 00:45:02,070 --> 00:45:06,300 there. You know this. I call it the pee in the mattress. It's 699 00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:10,290 always something that makes you uncomfortable with the person. 700 00:45:11,070 --> 00:45:13,980 Because there's certain topics they can't brochure. There's 701 00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:16,980 certain ways they can't say I agree. I think that the role of 702 00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:22,170 gatekeepers where he's playing expertly here. Yeah. So what he 703 00:45:22,170 --> 00:45:26,700 said in that last clip was very important. And as we're at the 704 00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:31,260 point in the show, we always got to go back. Oh, because these 705 00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:35,430 kinds of things have been seen before for. So we have Mr. 706 00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:40,080 Charles woods, which is a black film archivist and historian. 707 00:45:40,830 --> 00:45:43,830 And he talks to us about the real reason behind 708 00:45:43,830 --> 00:45:46,110 blaxploitation. He makes 709 00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:56,460 sweetbay bad, so nobody want to see that film. Personally, I'm 710 00:45:56,460 --> 00:46:03,480 going to say, piece of crap as far as I'm concerned, okay. What 711 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,140 helped get that going? Was the support of the Black Panthers 712 00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:11,190 wasn't it and gave it a big write up. Go see this film, they 713 00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:15,750 wanted to tie in Huey Newton, who needed a revolutionary this 714 00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:20,910 and all of that. What had a lot of brothers going to see it was 715 00:46:20,910 --> 00:46:25,140 a whole lot of stuff going on in it, you know, what did he 716 00:46:25,140 --> 00:46:30,210 introduce in that film? Black and white six, black men and 717 00:46:30,210 --> 00:46:36,000 black women making love a black man striking a white man because 718 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:41,430 he kills the cop. All right. But we can also call that film and 719 00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:45,300 IgG on the run. Because all through the movie, so he's doing 720 00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:45,720 running. 721 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,600 And Charles woods. 722 00:46:51,150 --> 00:46:54,780 I am not familiar with him. Okay, like I said he was a black 723 00:46:54,810 --> 00:46:59,940 archivist, black film archivist and historian. He does. His 724 00:47:00,780 --> 00:47:05,730 moniker is the professor. I'm a YouTuber, YouTube as well. Yes. 725 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,580 Okay, good. Well, I mean, he also is I mean, he's, he's known 726 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:13,920 for his work. And like, like looking at Black films. But if 727 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,310 you notice in that clip, he said, You could call it mean 728 00:47:17,310 --> 00:47:20,970 with the movie he was speaking about is sweet backs, sweet, 729 00:47:20,970 --> 00:47:24,210 sweet backs, badass song. And this is one of the 730 00:47:24,210 --> 00:47:29,010 Blaxploitation films that predated shaft. As he said, it 731 00:47:29,010 --> 00:47:33,030 was a piece of crap in his, in his opinion, knowledgeable 732 00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:38,610 opinion, opinion. And he said, what it's about what flat people 733 00:47:38,610 --> 00:47:42,780 making love. Yeah. And black person killing a white cop. And 734 00:47:42,780 --> 00:47:46,290 then in RGG, GE are on the run is what you said. You call it 735 00:47:46,290 --> 00:47:54,090 film. Don't we see a parallel here? Oh, you stumped me. It was 736 00:47:54,090 --> 00:47:56,340 worth queen. It's just Yes. 737 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,240 This is the exact same movie. Thank you. Okay, I got it. So 738 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:04,170 it's the same movie, the same idea. The same plot, 739 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,630 essentially. Then, of course, I've seen neither. Oh, wow. And 740 00:48:09,630 --> 00:48:12,300 when would when did that movie come out? That's so that's early 741 00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:13,380 70s. 742 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,620 Yes, predict shaft. So it had to be the early segment. Wow, check 743 00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:21,299 it for. So it's really just a shitty remake of a black sport. 744 00:48:21,329 --> 00:48:22,679 blaxploitation flick, 745 00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:27,690 it's a cycle. Yeah, it's a complete cycle. And we're going 746 00:48:27,690 --> 00:48:31,440 to understand why as Mr. Shaw was continuing on, and 747 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,550 blaxploitation two, 748 00:48:32,730 --> 00:48:36,360 I don't know if a lot of people wear this. They fall over him 749 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,690 wearing a mustache, because usually what happens is the 750 00:48:39,690 --> 00:48:45,120 trope for heroes. You don't give a mustache the only one to help 751 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,260 get get away with that was Clark Gable. But, you know, if we talk 752 00:48:49,260 --> 00:48:54,210 about what stereotypes do or what accepted images, they're 753 00:48:54,210 --> 00:48:57,660 shorthand, so if you have a blonde, she's dumb, you have 754 00:48:57,660 --> 00:49:01,590 some way with glasses and a pipe. He's smart. He's sharp, so 755 00:49:01,710 --> 00:49:05,220 you put the mustache that's the villain. They gave finally their 756 00:49:05,220 --> 00:49:06,960 consent. Okay, well let them have mustard. But that was a 757 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,080 phony mustache that Roundtree was wearing. Are you aware that? 758 00:49:10,140 --> 00:49:15,210 I never knew that. Okay. So yeah, so smart. Yeah. 759 00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:19,470 What he's talking about here, Chef. Yeah, of course, chef came 760 00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:24,270 after sweet backs. Oh, sweet ass song. A me badass. Oh, excuse 761 00:49:24,270 --> 00:49:29,280 me. And Chef was one of the films that struck the right 762 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,770 chord. Because sheriff was really the good guy. But I will 763 00:49:34,770 --> 00:49:38,130 put that clip in here just to show you even down to the facial 764 00:49:38,130 --> 00:49:42,930 hair. Oh, yeah. It's negotiated, because everything is 765 00:49:42,930 --> 00:49:44,490 representative of something. 766 00:49:44,670 --> 00:49:47,760 And that's and that's movies in general. But it's obvious what's 767 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,110 going on here. Sure. Sure. 768 00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:54,150 Like you said, the blondes are dumb. The Gout the pipe and you 769 00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:59,280 know, smart, smart. Yeah. And you had a guy black guy with a 770 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,700 mustache. He would be seen as the villain, right, but the 771 00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:10,530 movie was so good Shaq was able to break that mold of a good guy 772 00:50:10,530 --> 00:50:14,340 having a mustache. So even though it was fake, I didn't 773 00:50:14,340 --> 00:50:18,690 know that that's a little trivia. For people out there was 774 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:23,100 it was awesome moustache though. Um, so now Charles Wood is going 775 00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:29,160 to talk about how films had an impact on him when he watched 776 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:29,430 them. 777 00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:33,840 One of the other things I failed to mention was growing up. Not 778 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,860 only did I want to be a white man, I also wanted to make love 779 00:50:37,860 --> 00:50:42,600 to Virginia mayo. Rhonda Fleming. These names you have to 780 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:48,690 look up but brainwashed you Yes, Brother season now. I'm looking 781 00:50:48,690 --> 00:50:55,590 at Pam Greer, black chocolate Gloria Hendry. Now we talking 782 00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:57,960 there's something for us 783 00:51:02,130 --> 00:51:06,120 now, people might ask the question, well, why does black 784 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:14,790 people fall so susceptible to films? And music? Well, and it's 785 00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:17,730 not just black people is gonna say poor people. 786 00:51:17,730 --> 00:51:19,110 Yes. Thank you. 787 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:28,560 Poor people. This this is how they transfer their history. I 788 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:33,660 mean, a lot of Irish Irish. I think it's called G eggs or 789 00:51:33,660 --> 00:51:36,780 whatever the songs that they sang. They contain history 790 00:51:36,780 --> 00:51:40,020 stories in them. Oh, sure. It's even people that weren't 791 00:51:40,020 --> 00:51:41,190 literate they could sing 792 00:51:41,220 --> 00:51:46,350 well the country in western does this of course hip hop is you 793 00:51:46,350 --> 00:51:51,450 know, this started off as the black CNN back in the in the 794 00:51:51,450 --> 00:51:53,220 rapper days? I would say no, 795 00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:56,640 it would not it would I mean these things but 796 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,700 also how about the negro spiritual songs I mean, all of 797 00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:03,690 this stuff, it's that's worldwide. And the masses of 798 00:52:03,690 --> 00:52:07,110 course, in general, most people in the world are poor. So that's 799 00:52:07,110 --> 00:52:11,070 why we have these types of storytelling storytelling, no 800 00:52:11,070 --> 00:52:13,890 matter how you do it, but a story told in a way that is easy 801 00:52:13,890 --> 00:52:19,110 to remember, in us in a lyric or in a movie that is simplified 802 00:52:19,110 --> 00:52:22,440 and puts things together that really are hard to do in the 803 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:27,030 same time span in real life. That's how we how we continue 804 00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:29,940 stories about our culture, our background, our families, our 805 00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:31,080 history, our everything. 806 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:38,130 And that's why really good movie can relate to several different 807 00:52:38,130 --> 00:52:42,720 layers and intelligence level of people. Because you take a 808 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:47,880 simple child movie like Lion King. To the children, they take 809 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,590 one thing from it, but to the train I there's a lot of socio 810 00:52:52,590 --> 00:52:55,410 political, oh hell topics covered in there, especially 811 00:52:55,410 --> 00:52:59,130 Samia that just goes through it even in a child's movie, that it 812 00:52:59,130 --> 00:53:06,690 can have those different layers to it. Well, now here we are. If 813 00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:13,110 you have a bubbling undercurrent throughout the poor Society of 814 00:53:13,170 --> 00:53:19,950 unrest, Charles was explained what the purpose of movies, 815 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,150 these films, 816 00:53:21,930 --> 00:53:26,490 they help quell those riots. Because remember, we had the 817 00:53:26,490 --> 00:53:30,150 Kerner Commission studying why we had all these riots. These 818 00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:36,480 films helped to calm that down. I called it rioting in the movie 819 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:43,920 theaters. Because all of our anger and our angst, we were 820 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:49,050 able to bet and seeing people who look like us kick the white 821 00:53:49,050 --> 00:53:54,660 man's behind. And what was the subtitle of blaxploitation? Get 822 00:53:54,660 --> 00:54:00,000 YT for every drop of black blood spilled, a white man pays. He 823 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,560 had a plan to stick it to the man, the man see, we were 824 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:11,310 beating the man. And so I call it rioting in the movie theater. 825 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:18,600 Because this was writing without destroying anything. It was a 826 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,100 catharsis for us. 827 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,370 Wow. Yeah, you get the 828 00:54:26,490 --> 00:54:30,600 point? Well, I was also thinking about my first experience in the 829 00:54:30,930 --> 00:54:35,670 in an all black movie theater in New York City. I was invited to 830 00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:42,690 the opening night of coming to America with Eddie Murphy and 831 00:54:42,690 --> 00:54:46,950 Arsenio Hall, and that experience with as you go with 832 00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:50,070 all of my movie experiences Now granted, I'd grown up in Europe 833 00:54:50,070 --> 00:54:52,770 most of the time you go to the movie and you know, people will 834 00:54:52,770 --> 00:54:56,700 laugh and and say things are pretty appropriate moments. But 835 00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:59,700 man, that experience and it was in New York City was something 836 00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:03,450 different. It was like people jumping up in the aisles and 837 00:55:03,450 --> 00:55:06,300 yelling like, no, stop. No, no, no, don't go there and turn 838 00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:09,360 around. I was just It was crazy. I loved it. But it was very 839 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:09,810 different. 840 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,490 And that's what Mr. Charles would have said in the last 1015 841 00:55:14,490 --> 00:55:17,580 seconds of that clip. It was it was catharsis. Yeah, it's a 842 00:55:17,580 --> 00:55:22,410 release. Yes. And if you're the elite, now you understand why 843 00:55:22,410 --> 00:55:24,000 they make movies like this. Yeah, 844 00:55:24,030 --> 00:55:27,090 we want to take the pressure off. So take the pressure off 845 00:55:27,090 --> 00:55:27,690 the cooker, 846 00:55:27,749 --> 00:55:30,869 right? So when you have movements, like Black Lives 847 00:55:30,869 --> 00:55:36,839 Matter, every time you do have a uprising, Hollywood and nearly 848 00:55:36,869 --> 00:55:40,229 get together and say, let's give them films, where they can live 849 00:55:40,259 --> 00:55:45,059 vicariously through the characters. And make him have 850 00:55:45,059 --> 00:55:47,069 that, like you said, take the pressure off the cooker, 851 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,460 even a little, it's even a little better than that, knowing 852 00:55:50,460 --> 00:55:54,960 somewhat of how Hollywood works, they actually have a shelf or a 853 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,800 slate, as they call it. of movies ready to go. Some of them 854 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,370 made a year ago, some of them made two years ago. They can 855 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,820 determine to release something not like oh, we got some 856 00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:08,640 problems. We got to release the pressure. Let's go make a movie. 857 00:56:08,670 --> 00:56:11,790 No, no, this is all done. This is already it's on the plank. 858 00:56:11,790 --> 00:56:12,600 It's good to go. 859 00:56:14,370 --> 00:56:17,610 This edge I didn't know that point. So they haven't we can 860 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,590 look at how many already in the can. Yeah, 861 00:56:19,620 --> 00:56:20,790 it's in the can. Sure. 862 00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:26,520 So I'm gonna go back to Mr. Brandon Avery, the movie critic, 863 00:56:26,820 --> 00:56:30,930 and he said his small tidbit that kind of confirms what we 864 00:56:30,930 --> 00:56:32,010 heard in the last clip. 865 00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:36,450 So after reading that plus synopsis, it sounds kind of fun. 866 00:56:36,450 --> 00:56:39,420 It sounds adventurous like wow, you know, to black people can 867 00:56:39,420 --> 00:56:43,230 Macapa self defense. And you know, in reality, cops always 868 00:56:43,230 --> 00:56:46,020 shooting black people for no rhyme or reason at all. I mean, 869 00:56:46,020 --> 00:56:48,990 my goodness gracious. Seems like we're gonna have a fairness on 870 00:56:48,990 --> 00:56:52,050 my hair, like kinda like a modern day Django Unchained or 871 00:56:52,050 --> 00:56:52,800 something like that? 872 00:56:53,730 --> 00:56:57,870 Yeah. Well, we have, we have the genre. The genre is fantasy. 873 00:56:57,930 --> 00:57:04,740 Nice. We're going to have a fantasy on our hands. This is 874 00:57:04,770 --> 00:57:12,510 the sick man is real, but it's sick. But from the 70s to the 875 00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:17,460 80s black people became aware and he things can only burn out 876 00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:23,430 so long. And two they go, they become rendered ineffective. And 877 00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:27,450 then they go away. And then it's Robin comes, do you have another 878 00:57:27,450 --> 00:57:32,700 way? I mean, this goes. So we had a gentleman named Mr. Robert 879 00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:37,050 Townsend. And now I have these next set of clips because he had 880 00:57:37,050 --> 00:57:39,210 a movie called Hollywood shuffle I ever 881 00:57:39,210 --> 00:57:43,680 heard. Yeah, of course, I've met him. I've met him several times. 882 00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:48,569 So Mr. Robert, Towson paid for this movie Hollywood shuffle out 883 00:57:48,569 --> 00:57:51,869 of his own pocket, he maxed out credit cards, everything, and he 884 00:57:51,869 --> 00:57:56,849 and it was a huge success. And huge success. And not only that, 885 00:57:57,179 --> 00:58:01,679 but when you find your own money, you're all movies. You 886 00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:06,389 could tell the true phenom. Yeah. And with that said, black 887 00:58:06,419 --> 00:58:08,219 acting schools Hollywood shuffle. 888 00:58:08,490 --> 00:58:14,490 Hi, my name is Robert Taylor. And I'm a black actor. I had to 889 00:58:14,490 --> 00:58:17,940 learn to play the slave part. And now you can too and 890 00:58:17,940 --> 00:58:24,390 Hollywood's first black acting school, teachers were taught 101 891 00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:28,170 mother fucking Jack Turkey mother fucker. 892 00:58:28,530 --> 00:58:30,840 Alright, that's good. That's good. You work hard. You try it. 893 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,170 You You fucking mothers. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, that's wrong. 894 00:58:37,170 --> 00:58:44,910 That's wrong. Watch me. Cool. Job tricky. That's the 895 00:58:44,910 --> 00:58:47,460 beginning. You too can learn to walk. 896 00:58:50,850 --> 00:58:54,570 No, no, no, no, no. No 897 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,900 I remember this movie. It was great. It was very funny. 898 00:59:07,590 --> 00:59:10,260 And the funny thing about that clip was when people can't see 899 00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:16,320 is you had white men showing the black people out of black which 900 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,100 was hilarious. 901 00:59:17,130 --> 00:59:21,420 Whatever happened to whatever happened to Townson? I mean he 902 00:59:21,420 --> 00:59:24,360 kind of faded away a bit from from what Emery I'm sure he's 903 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,560 doing something good. 904 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,340 Hip Hop happened to him and we're gonna we're gonna get 905 00:59:29,370 --> 00:59:32,670 we're gonna get to that in a minute. All right goggles and 906 00:59:32,670 --> 00:59:33,810 put the goggles I'm sorry. 907 00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:36,780 My head yes, I gotta put on the shades Yeah, 908 00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:42,930 yeah, so um he taught he was telling the truth in this and in 909 00:59:42,930 --> 00:59:45,930 the movie we I suggest everybody go check check it out because 910 00:59:46,170 --> 00:59:50,400 it's hilarious that this satirical and the funny thing is 911 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,820 in that clip, he's speaking with a British accent which is which 912 00:59:53,820 --> 00:59:55,800 has a whole nother connotation to it. Like, 913 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,860 especially right now with everything that we're talking 914 00:59:58,860 --> 00:59:59,310 about. 915 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,150 All right, it's weird. I mean, that's why I made a great 916 01:00:04,260 --> 01:00:08,010 addition to the to the clips that I snagged from it. But he 917 01:00:08,010 --> 01:00:10,410 continues on with the black acting school too. 918 01:00:10,919 --> 01:00:15,359 You too can be a black street hood. But this class is for dark 919 01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:17,669 skinned blacks only light skinned or yellow black still 920 01:00:17,669 --> 01:00:21,269 make good clothes. Here's a student not dance class. Kind of 921 01:00:21,269 --> 01:00:24,779 steal a TV. just happen to be on my coat. I don't know. 922 01:00:24,989 --> 01:00:29,789 policewoman called Jack. Yeah, I'm a gang leader. I'm in the 923 01:00:29,789 --> 01:00:36,269 war laws, Vice laws, onion here. Let's talk to graduate. This is 924 01:00:36,269 --> 01:00:40,139 Ricky Taylor. Ricky graduated from our class three years ago. 925 01:00:40,379 --> 01:00:42,329 Ricky, can you tell us what you've been doing since you've 926 01:00:42,329 --> 01:00:42,839 graduated? 927 01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:46,439 Well, Robert has played nine trucks for gang leaders. 928 01:00:47,340 --> 01:00:52,500 I played a rapist twice. It was fun. Currently, I'm filming a 929 01:00:52,500 --> 01:00:56,370 prison movie. I play this tough calm it tries to fuck this new 930 01:00:56,370 --> 01:00:56,760 enemy. 931 01:00:57,269 --> 01:01:01,259 That That sounds wonderful. I'm so happy for you. 932 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,200 It's coming back. It's coming back. It's funny. 933 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,840 What he is a brilliant movie, because what he did was poke fun 934 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,220 at the roles that black actors at a time in 1987 were being 935 01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:21,450 hired for. And you could tell truth, you could tell truth to 936 01:01:21,450 --> 01:01:24,090 power. If you're funding your own movies for 937 01:01:24,090 --> 01:01:27,630 comedy, comedy is always talking truth to power. Alright. 938 01:01:27,930 --> 01:01:34,200 And the reason why I wanted to use these clips is until we find 939 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,560 your own move its value for value. Is it basically what it 940 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,220 is when you have the freedom to say what you want to say? The 941 01:01:41,220 --> 01:01:45,630 people find value in it and then they support it. Which your fun. 942 01:01:46,530 --> 01:01:50,670 stop you right there. Mo fund me.com. That's exactly what this 943 01:01:50,670 --> 01:01:53,670 is about mov f u n d.com. 944 01:01:55,020 --> 01:01:59,250 And if you don't, then you have to go through checking in with 945 01:01:59,250 --> 01:02:03,600 the powers that be and say, Oh, well, the the test say screening 946 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,600 tests say that that doesn't sit well with white male 947 01:02:07,470 --> 01:02:10,800 test audience. Yes. Well, you know, most, most Hollywood 948 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,920 movies have at least two sometimes three endings, they'll 949 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,220 shoot and they'll test market those amongst the audience. I 950 01:02:17,220 --> 01:02:20,880 mean, it's so micro, this is why everything sucks. This is why 951 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,900 radio sucks is why television sucks is why the movies suck in 952 01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:28,860 general. There's always exceptions, of course, but it's 953 01:02:28,860 --> 01:02:33,780 all been micromanaged down to the single demographic that they 954 01:02:33,780 --> 01:02:36,870 expect to exploit the most or get the most out of their wallet 955 01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:37,680 from that's it. 956 01:02:38,730 --> 01:02:43,440 It's been sanitized. It's been it's been really sanitized. And 957 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,680 there are some good shows out there that captured what goes on 958 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,340 the black community. But there's so far a few between because 959 01:02:50,370 --> 01:02:55,950 either one they had to put the art over the commerce or you 960 01:02:55,950 --> 01:02:59,640 have to get people and one of the cases was the wire. They 961 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,870 actually got people from Baltimore, and they capture doom 962 01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:09,690 in a realistic humanized way. Yeah, not caricatures. Yeah. But 963 01:03:09,690 --> 01:03:12,900 when you're going for the Fast Book or the mind control, you 964 01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:17,130 need to caricatures like Lena wave face, she needed you to see 965 01:03:17,130 --> 01:03:21,330 a little bit of yourself and each character, you know, um, so 966 01:03:21,330 --> 01:03:26,160 it's bullcrap. But for those people that are interesting in 967 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,520 signing up for the black acting school, we have the we have the 968 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:30,270 number for you. 969 01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:34,980 Classes are enrolling now learn to play TV pimps movie mongers 970 01:03:35,010 --> 01:03:39,000 street punks, courses include Jive talk, one on one shuffling 971 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,950 200 epic slaves 400 da one 800 555. 972 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,100 Don't try to be cool call hot 973 01:03:56,340 --> 01:04:03,840 that would never make it today. No. No, no, no. So as you said 974 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,200 before, you're getting ahead. You said what happened to Robert 975 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,500 Townsend. What happened to people like that? Yeah. Well, we 976 01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:15,030 had an influx in hip hop. And Robert towel was seen as being 977 01:04:15,030 --> 01:04:22,650 corny. So you need a more seedy side to Black Media going into 978 01:04:22,650 --> 01:04:27,360 the 90s as Mr. Nelson Nelson George, the famed director 979 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:28,110 explains. 980 01:04:30,420 --> 01:04:33,150 Me I think that what's happened and this is the dark side of hip 981 01:04:33,150 --> 01:04:38,940 hop, is it sort of in the 60s, black stuff became soul, 982 01:04:38,970 --> 01:04:42,090 everything was so bread there was so food, so handshakes, 983 01:04:42,090 --> 01:04:46,410 vote. Now everything's hip hop, hip hop, this hip hop that, but 984 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,230 the truth is, it's a much more complicated template hip hop. 985 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,270 People sort of view, hip hop as this thing that runs everything, 986 01:04:54,270 --> 01:04:57,030 but I always see hip hop as part of black culture and not the 987 01:04:57,030 --> 01:05:00,330 other way around. And then Hip Hop responds to more broader 988 01:05:00,330 --> 01:05:05,910 general trends in terms of violence in terms of family 989 01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:09,630 issues, education, all these things, the music then reflects. 990 01:05:12,330 --> 01:05:16,440 But because of I was looking this kind of easy shorthand for 991 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,070 marketers, they leave it. That's why I got like Tyler Perry, who 992 01:05:20,070 --> 01:05:21,810 I brought up has been so successful. 993 01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:28,260 Okay, shorthand for marketers. Yeah, so it's easy. You could 994 01:05:28,260 --> 01:05:32,700 throw hip hop into something, though. And when I say hip hop, 995 01:05:32,730 --> 01:05:36,690 we're talking about the negative form of it. They get throw that 996 01:05:36,690 --> 01:05:39,780 in the background, a soundtrack and then make it easily packaged 997 01:05:39,780 --> 01:05:45,180 together a quick movie for a quick book. So that put the 998 01:05:45,180 --> 01:05:49,860 people like Robert Townsend out of business. And as he said in 999 01:05:49,860 --> 01:05:55,290 the clip, that's why Tyler Perry book came so rich and powerful 1000 01:05:55,290 --> 01:06:00,240 because he actually reached introduced even though it was 1001 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:06,420 problematic, and in its own way, negative, it was a non Hip Hop 1002 01:06:06,420 --> 01:06:09,300 version, what he did was gave you the black struggle, 1003 01:06:09,450 --> 01:06:16,710 sprinkled a little Jesus, and, and it created a huge, it was a 1004 01:06:16,830 --> 01:06:20,460 huge opportunity. And he created a market, he created a product 1005 01:06:20,460 --> 01:06:26,370 for that market for the non hip hop, um, black market. But 1006 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,220 because at the time, maybe he said, You see now hip hop's 1007 01:06:29,220 --> 01:06:32,040 taken over everything, and it's not the positive hip hop, as we 1008 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:36,870 talked about on previous shows. They're not marketing, positive 1009 01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:39,750 hip hop. It's the negative stuff for the same reason as they 1010 01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:46,920 market these negative movies. But that's where we're at. So 1011 01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:49,950 yeah, I have nothing but agreement for you. I was just 1012 01:06:49,950 --> 01:06:53,790 thinking, Robert Townsend. Where'd he go? I think he got 1013 01:06:53,820 --> 01:06:55,890 displaced by kids and Play Movies didn't 1014 01:06:56,580 --> 01:07:00,270 know what happened. Well, you Yeah. And then kid, and it's a 1015 01:07:00,270 --> 01:07:04,680 gradual effect. So you they use kid and play and positive hip 1016 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:09,720 hop as a Trojan horse. That was fun loving me had likes. I mean, 1017 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,380 they had no more cussing than that Hollywood shuffle. And it 1018 01:07:13,380 --> 01:07:18,270 was a fun movie, like a house party and those movies, right? 1019 01:07:18,570 --> 01:07:23,550 And then once they got a hold into, it's got like, share, same 1020 01:07:23,550 --> 01:07:26,220 thing share was a positive movie. Yeah, you had a black 1021 01:07:26,250 --> 01:07:28,860 top, and you're saying cleaning up the neighborhood kicking ass? 1022 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,790 And what look at all the movies came after that Superfly what 1023 01:07:32,790 --> 01:07:36,330 was super fun doing? It was sniffing dope and pimping women, 1024 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,770 it's the it's always a Trojan horse that comes in as positive. 1025 01:07:41,940 --> 01:07:45,780 And then they bring in the real motive after that, once we 1026 01:07:45,780 --> 01:07:51,360 become accepting of it. So I'm Mr. George, Nick, I'm a nurse, 1027 01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,960 excuse me, Mr. Nelson. George continues on about the media's 1028 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,190 portrayal of black culture. 1029 01:07:56,490 --> 01:08:00,240 So it just goes to show you that if you just read the mainstream 1030 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,310 press, you think the only thing that was happening in black 1031 01:08:02,310 --> 01:08:06,540 American culture was hip hop. And in fact, it's far from that. 1032 01:08:06,930 --> 01:08:11,160 So that the complexity and the range of expression within the 1033 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,510 black community is really always underappreciated, and 1034 01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:18,840 narrowcast. And you have to really be clear that black 1035 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,660 culture is not a monolith. There's a lot of subsets and 1036 01:08:21,660 --> 01:08:24,120 interesting tributaries of and that's where the real fun is 1037 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,710 actually, of course, it is, 1038 01:08:25,770 --> 01:08:33,210 of course. Well, Miss Lena Wait, made an interesting observation 1039 01:08:33,210 --> 01:08:37,890 about Hollywood. She's made the claim that Hollywood studios are 1040 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:43,530 owned by majority white males. Is that a completely accurate 1041 01:08:43,530 --> 01:08:44,310 statement? Adam 1042 01:08:44,340 --> 01:08:47,460 complete, I knew I was gonna mention that earlier, too. First 1043 01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:50,850 of all, a lot of these companies are public, or many of them are 1044 01:08:50,850 --> 01:08:55,590 public. So they are they may be run by by white guys at the top. 1045 01:08:55,860 --> 01:09:00,180 But Hollywood, as far as I know, is pretty much Oh, I know that 1046 01:09:00,180 --> 01:09:04,590 AMC movie theaters and a lot of the big studios are owned by 1047 01:09:04,590 --> 01:09:07,830 China. Who as we know is asshole. 1048 01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:11,610 China bans hip hop. Well, Brad, I 1049 01:09:11,610 --> 01:09:14,550 think it's safe to say that we won't be on television in China 1050 01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:18,720 anytime soon. Yes, the country's top media regulators of the 1051 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,960 People's Republic of China now specifically require that 1052 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,920 programs should not feed your actors with tattoos or depict 1053 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:31,860 hip hop culture so I'm out against that make it all bad 1054 01:09:31,860 --> 01:09:33,030 for us. Yeah, I'm saying 1055 01:09:37,710 --> 01:09:41,700 actually, tattoos you're out yesterday with Chinese tattoo. 1056 01:09:41,850 --> 01:09:45,390 They're really cracking down Chinese rapper weighing HoH aka 1057 01:09:45,390 --> 01:09:49,500 PG one was forced to apologize earlier this month after one of 1058 01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:52,620 his songs Christmas Eve was criticized for promoting drug 1059 01:09:52,620 --> 01:09:58,740 culture and insulting women. Wait a second that's my name 1060 01:09:58,770 --> 01:10:01,650 sounds like a rapper name. But that's his real name. So he 1061 01:10:01,650 --> 01:10:03,480 takes his real name, which sounds like rapper name and 1062 01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:09,540 creates a rapper name. Yeah, PG was a little little Wang. Oh, 1063 01:10:09,540 --> 01:10:11,790 yeah. No. Little way. 1064 01:10:13,349 --> 01:10:16,979 Yeah, China's definitely has a big influence, you know, wow. 1065 01:10:17,519 --> 01:10:21,209 China in this twice in this series of shows and one with the 1066 01:10:21,209 --> 01:10:24,299 NBA and sports and in movies. Yeah. So they 1067 01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:28,290 of course. So why is it that China feels this okay for their 1068 01:10:28,290 --> 01:10:31,860 movie studios and I'm sure they all movie studio they own a lot 1069 01:10:31,860 --> 01:10:36,810 of the shares in these record companies as well. It's okay to 1070 01:10:36,810 --> 01:10:43,770 promote certain music and images to one community, but it's not 1071 01:10:43,770 --> 01:10:46,290 okay to promote in their own country? Well, no, 1072 01:10:46,290 --> 01:10:49,110 of course not that they don't want a bunch of people getting 1073 01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:51,390 all pissed off in their own country let that happen in 1074 01:10:51,390 --> 01:10:51,990 America. 1075 01:10:53,910 --> 01:10:58,350 And it could be negative and deleterious. Right. Yes. I mean, 1076 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:03,090 I would think so. Well, I have the splendid opportunity, which 1077 01:11:03,090 --> 01:11:07,440 you may be far and few with him in between, to introduce Mr. 1078 01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:14,430 Alex Jones to the show, oh, boy, he's right off the road. He is 1079 01:11:14,430 --> 01:11:16,770 plays China ban on hip hop. 1080 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,220 And they're losing control. Hollywood's folding, 1081 01:11:20,220 --> 01:11:22,770 everything's falling. I made the point that they're hoping 1082 01:11:22,770 --> 01:11:26,280 Communist China buys up the Big Six, production houses desert 1083 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,010 failing. I mean, the point, my God, you people don't even kill 1084 01:11:29,490 --> 01:11:32,430 yourself straight. The communists have already taken 1085 01:11:32,430 --> 01:11:34,710 over in China. So they don't want homosexuality, talk to 1086 01:11:34,710 --> 01:11:38,550 kids, and training stuff and all this stuff. They execute you if 1087 01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:42,450 you're gay in China. I'm not saying that's good. The news 1088 01:11:42,450 --> 01:11:45,900 pick that up, I had a memo on it last week, I said, you want 1089 01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:48,870 China to come in and take over, because they're authoritarian 1090 01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:51,510 comeback of Hollywood. And because they're anti American, 1091 01:11:51,810 --> 01:11:55,260 but they'll execute you for your agenda. And they won't even let 1092 01:11:55,260 --> 01:11:58,950 you air most of your films that they see as anti family, because 1093 01:11:58,980 --> 01:12:05,940 they understand that the brand of sexual revolution you're 1094 01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:10,530 selling was designed by the CIA this declassified to end the 1095 01:12:10,530 --> 01:12:12,690 family and bring down civilization. 1096 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,770 And this is why I love Alex Jones. He breaks it. So simply, 1097 01:12:19,770 --> 01:12:23,490 yeah, exactly. What I'd like to know is now that you just 1098 01:12:23,490 --> 01:12:25,830 stumbled across this in your research, are you listening 1099 01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:27,810 every day to the Infowars? 1100 01:12:30,540 --> 01:12:34,890 I used to be listening to Alex Jones, way back. And I think 1101 01:12:34,890 --> 01:12:39,420 he's the gateway drug to conspiracy analysts and 1102 01:12:39,420 --> 01:12:44,040 theorists. Yeah, that's kind of where you start. And then if you 1103 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,370 grow from there, he started seeing, looking for more 1104 01:12:47,370 --> 01:12:50,130 information. So I was familiar with that. I hadn't heard her 1105 01:12:50,130 --> 01:12:53,760 news clip. But I'm although I was aware of what he stated in 1106 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,620 the clip as being almost a fact. 1107 01:12:56,790 --> 01:13:00,660 Well, and look at how to have him. Look at how powerful it is. 1108 01:13:00,660 --> 01:13:05,310 No, I mean, we had the whole NBA conversation. was China owning 1109 01:13:05,370 --> 01:13:10,140 the NBA? Well, Nike, of course, but the trifecta, and it's gone. 1110 01:13:10,170 --> 01:13:14,250 It's no longer discussed. It's off the radar, which was moved 1111 01:13:14,250 --> 01:13:17,370 on to something else. Don't look over here, whatever you do, 1112 01:13:17,370 --> 01:13:19,440 don't look at what China's controlling. 1113 01:13:22,650 --> 01:13:28,620 Yeah, and it's just telling that our country biggest China, 1.6 1114 01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:33,030 billion people tried to ban hip hop and his imagery, not the 1115 01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:36,600 actual music, but the imagery and the negative negativity that 1116 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,050 comes along with it. And as Alex Jones said, it's a form of 1117 01:13:40,410 --> 01:13:41,190 propaganda. 1118 01:13:41,370 --> 01:13:45,360 Now, I have to say something having having time is somewhat 1119 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,870 traveled man. I've never been to China. But I have been to Russia 1120 01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:53,910 and I went to Russia in 1988. Before David Hasselhoff brought 1121 01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:59,250 the wall down, we all know the Hof did that. And I met kids who 1122 01:13:59,250 --> 01:14:07,290 were playing songs themselves. Western music, which they had 1123 01:14:07,290 --> 01:14:11,490 only heard and it copied down lyrics phonetically. So they 1124 01:14:11,490 --> 01:14:14,730 didn't even have the written lyrics. Of course, it was the 1125 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,450 there was a big trade smuggle in cassette tapes. So they would 1126 01:14:18,450 --> 01:14:22,050 get a cassette tape and I just remember being in what was 1127 01:14:22,050 --> 01:14:26,040 called a restaurant. And it was very elite upscale. Of course, 1128 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,560 we were visitors were there for the Moscow music Peace Festival 1129 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,550 at the time, another scam for another day. And in the guys, 1130 01:14:33,090 --> 01:14:35,190 this is like a kid and he's and he's singing. I don't know if 1131 01:14:35,190 --> 01:14:38,760 you remember, Johnny hates jazz shattered dreams. It's just that 1132 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,100 was one of the songs he was singing that I remembered. And 1133 01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:45,690 he was singing it like Anna had a FEWS NET a dream Sneed who was 1134 01:14:45,690 --> 01:14:49,020 just making up words, it was all phonetically. My point being 1135 01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:54,720 that in China, they can they can and this is a worldwide and it 1136 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,840 always gives me hope. So yeah, you can block the mainstream 1137 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:02,250 channels you can block the more Mind Control tubes that are 1138 01:15:02,250 --> 01:15:05,130 going straight into people's brains from the mainstream. Or 1139 01:15:05,130 --> 01:15:08,340 as you heard, Alex say, you know, there's probably more 1140 01:15:08,340 --> 01:15:12,360 agenda behind it. But luckily, we do have the tools and 1141 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,850 underneath kids are actually doing this. They're performing 1142 01:15:14,850 --> 01:15:18,300 it on street corners. I mean, hip hop didn't didn't appear on 1143 01:15:18,300 --> 01:15:21,720 top 40 radio. I mean, hip hop was street battles initially. 1144 01:15:21,930 --> 01:15:25,290 Yeah, that's, that's back in the day of hey, you The Rock Steady 1145 01:15:25,290 --> 01:15:31,470 Crew. I was in LA at the at the was it? BLS I think was the BLS 1146 01:15:31,620 --> 01:15:36,570 street battle in 1981. This is where it came from. It came from 1147 01:15:36,570 --> 01:15:41,580 the street. So this is all manufactured shit anyway. So I 1148 01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:45,810 guess, a roundabout way of saying, yes, they're stopping 1149 01:15:45,810 --> 01:15:48,960 that or they're only using the most negative, but I think human 1150 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,380 nature, I'm sure if we move you and I went to China, that'd be 1151 01:15:52,380 --> 01:15:56,370 pretty cool. By the way, we'd get some cool looks. I think we 1152 01:15:56,370 --> 01:16:00,180 would find it I think it would find kids with their own version 1153 01:16:00,180 --> 01:16:02,520 of hip hop that was real underneath everything else. I 1154 01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,550 think people have to realize it's all phony. It's all fake. 1155 01:16:05,580 --> 01:16:08,670 All of it. All of it is with an agenda and with an if it's 1156 01:16:08,670 --> 01:16:12,720 mainstream. 90% is just disingenuous. 1157 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,480 You can't stop it. And I think China understands they can't 1158 01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:22,290 stop it. So if you can't stop something, just like America, 1159 01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:25,620 American industry, do. You have to infiltrate it and control it? 1160 01:16:25,650 --> 01:16:30,630 Yeah. And that's how it works. But I have the final clip. We 1161 01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:33,630 have Mr. Alex Jones, continuing on about China, hip hop in 1162 01:16:33,630 --> 01:16:34,440 China. And 1163 01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:36,540 again, you're like, Well, wait, is it a communist program? No. 1164 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,290 The Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation, these big 1165 01:16:40,290 --> 01:16:43,920 groups put all this out in the 50s and 60s, deployed in the in 1166 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,760 the 60s and 70s. And they've done it. The black community 1167 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,120 have less illegitimacy in the 40s that likes to announce 1168 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:58,140 upwards of 87% That's weaponized control. MTV force feeding extra 1169 01:16:58,140 --> 01:17:00,780 rap, folks picked it up converted their culture to being 1170 01:17:00,780 --> 01:17:03,660 thugs. So everyone would ostracize them, put them in the 1171 01:17:03,660 --> 01:17:06,090 wrong group. Everybody kills each other. You're ready for 1172 01:17:06,090 --> 01:17:10,740 prisons. They've been everywhere your pants hanging down around 1173 01:17:10,740 --> 01:17:16,110 your ass, saying I'm a male more in a prison. Punk me bend me 1174 01:17:16,110 --> 01:17:16,860 over and 1175 01:17:22,350 --> 01:17:27,420 I mean, they can make people dress like prison sex slaves, 1176 01:17:28,110 --> 01:17:32,250 and make it cool because Sumner Redstone, MTV sets up. A 1177 01:17:32,250 --> 01:17:33,510 restaurant hates you. 1178 01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,930 Okay, first of all, I was at MTV for a long time I worked there. 1179 01:17:43,140 --> 01:17:45,450 There was never any memo. There's never anything that went 1180 01:17:45,450 --> 01:17:48,480 around and get no secret meeting, no handshake. I was 1181 01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:51,990 also in the music meetings where we determined what we were 1182 01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:55,800 going. I was the only on air talent who really ever expressed 1183 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,740 interest in it. But who was invited to these meetings. And I 1184 01:17:58,740 --> 01:18:02,700 can just tell you, MTV, by itself was an entity had nothing 1185 01:18:02,700 --> 01:18:06,750 to do with this. They they themselves were complete bitches 1186 01:18:06,750 --> 01:18:09,900 to the music industry. The music industry determine what 1187 01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:15,000 happened. Once MTV took the lid off and said, Okay, now we're 1188 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,570 going big. And they got different. It used to be owned 1189 01:18:18,570 --> 01:18:22,410 by American Express. Then I went over to Viacom. That's when 1190 01:18:22,410 --> 01:18:25,620 Michael Jackson came in. It wasn't because a bunch of white 1191 01:18:25,620 --> 01:18:29,520 guys at MTV said, Well, what do you think Tom? Well, I think we 1192 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,130 should let the black man on that on the channel. It's about time 1193 01:18:32,130 --> 01:18:34,710 Don't you think so by the way, it's kind of a white guy this 1194 01:18:34,710 --> 01:18:38,460 mic? No, it wasn't like that at all. It came from above man. He 1195 01:18:38,460 --> 01:18:41,730 was way above MTD way, but who's the seats? Yeah. 1196 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:47,730 It comes from way, way away above. To the trick baby level. 1197 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,750 Yes. That's where that's what these conversations happen at 1198 01:18:53,070 --> 01:18:58,440 least $50,000 dinners. Well, my kids had this interesting music 1199 01:18:58,830 --> 01:19:01,170 that they're listening to called hip hop and it could be a 1200 01:19:01,170 --> 01:19:01,680 problem. 1201 01:19:01,710 --> 01:19:05,280 I think I think I gotta play the trick baby scene again. Just 1202 01:19:05,340 --> 01:19:10,410 just just to remind people 1974 The movie trick baby. You 1203 01:19:10,410 --> 01:19:12,270 liberals who have lifted them up? Are 1204 01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:16,650 you conservatives make a mistake? You can't afford to 1205 01:19:16,650 --> 01:19:20,610 strangle hope and people without hope. People will come 1206 01:19:20,610 --> 01:19:21,060 dangerous. 1207 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,140 No, Howard, you liberals have let them invade our society. You 1208 01:19:25,140 --> 01:19:27,300 give them jobs political job. 1209 01:19:27,450 --> 01:19:32,040 Oh, you missed the point. Only the smart ones we move up. That 1210 01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,940 makes it even worse. Oh, no, we have to move them up. If we 1211 01:19:35,940 --> 01:19:38,850 leave a smart one in the ghetto, he might develop into a leader 1212 01:19:38,850 --> 01:19:43,110 against us. But if we raise him up into white society, we 1213 01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:47,130 neutralize it. He feels compelled to try black like us. 1214 01:19:47,850 --> 01:19:53,190 He loses his identity and his racial anger. If it hasn't, he 1215 01:19:53,190 --> 01:19:57,540 becomes alien to his brothers. They realize he sold them out 1216 01:19:57,540 --> 01:20:01,500 and they grow to hate him. He becomes worse Listen to them and 1217 01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:05,820 say for us, no thank you. In fact, in his love for the 1218 01:20:05,820 --> 01:20:10,590 creature comforts except for his color, he's become one of us. 1219 01:20:14,759 --> 01:20:21,119 Yeah. Now, do you is there there's got to be awareness 1220 01:20:21,629 --> 01:20:24,479 amongst native blacks that this is truly what's going on, 1221 01:20:24,659 --> 01:20:27,359 particularly with this movie. I mean, what what what are you 1222 01:20:27,359 --> 01:20:29,819 hearing about queen and slim? 1223 01:20:30,510 --> 01:20:35,370 What? Well, it's all great propaganda. What it wants to do 1224 01:20:35,370 --> 01:20:39,450 is to divide. Yeah, it doesn't care which side you take is to 1225 01:20:39,450 --> 01:20:44,760 take a side. And a good portion of people see through the bull 1226 01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:49,860 crap like I do. And then it's another portion that thinks 1227 01:20:49,860 --> 01:20:53,400 well, as long as we will be reflected, and you have black 1228 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:59,760 people in director roles and writer roles and black faces on 1229 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:05,100 screen. It has to be good, right? Right. Yeah. That's 1230 01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:09,870 right. So this is the wet Yeah, this is the weird and it keeps 1231 01:21:09,870 --> 01:21:14,760 you in fighting because it's like, look as bad is I mean, 1232 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,130 we've seen this over and over again. We've seen it from the 1233 01:21:17,130 --> 01:21:21,300 minstrels Oh, the early 19 hundred's then it came back 1234 01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:27,030 again and 1970s with blaxploitation somewhere in the 1235 01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:31,530 90s. I was more on television with homeboys in outer space and 1236 01:21:31,530 --> 01:21:36,720 silly shows like that. Yeah. And then and then it every time 1237 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:41,580 there's a uprising, and I want people to really see this trend. 1238 01:21:42,510 --> 01:21:47,700 And the 70s, late 60s, you had on 68, which rules are really 1239 01:21:47,700 --> 01:21:51,390 hot here. You had boys, blaxploitation come along, in 1240 01:21:51,390 --> 01:21:54,600 the 90s, when you had Rodney King and that thing come along, 1241 01:21:54,630 --> 01:21:58,740 then you have a homeboys in outer space. And the real 1242 01:21:58,740 --> 01:22:02,520 caricature of negative Hip Hop come along right now. Well, you 1243 01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:07,650 have the Trayvon Martin in Ferguson and Black Lives Matter. 1244 01:22:07,770 --> 01:22:08,670 Now. Here we are. 1245 01:22:10,740 --> 01:22:14,400 Now, do you feel that there is an uprising that there truly is 1246 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,040 an undercurrent of uprising and this may not be a violent 1247 01:22:17,070 --> 01:22:20,310 uprising? But is this the uprising that I feel you are a 1248 01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:24,900 part of is the excuse me, services rendered eff off? Not 1249 01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:27,420 going to vote for you unless we see something? Is this the 1250 01:22:27,420 --> 01:22:28,110 uprising? 1251 01:22:29,070 --> 01:22:34,410 Yes, this is the maturation, especially the political 1252 01:22:34,410 --> 01:22:38,940 maturation of non black people. And it's scary. And I always 1253 01:22:38,940 --> 01:22:43,020 say, these are everything you see right now. Because I don't 1254 01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:45,570 think you'll see really people take to the streets. But when 1255 01:22:45,570 --> 01:22:48,840 people start taking their political power back, yeah. And 1256 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:49,920 I just gave it away, 1257 01:22:49,950 --> 01:22:52,680 much bigger than violence. That's a huge deal. That's the 1258 01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:53,280 biggest. 1259 01:22:54,150 --> 01:22:57,270 That is the biggest, and that's scary to one group of people. 1260 01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:59,190 And that's why I harp on that one group of people on this 1261 01:22:59,190 --> 01:23:02,700 show, because they're the ones that trying to say, get in line, 1262 01:23:03,390 --> 01:23:07,920 stay in Stay, stay information, do what you normally do. And 1263 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,130 when we refuse to start doing that. That's when they turn up 1264 01:23:11,130 --> 01:23:12,150 the propaganda machine. 1265 01:23:12,450 --> 01:23:15,720 Now, have you seen queen and slim yet? No. Are you do you 1266 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:21,390 intend to see it? No. I can't wait to find out what else is in 1267 01:23:21,390 --> 01:23:24,810 this movie, but it sounds you right now. What do you say the 1268 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,090 now Well, how about your kids? Your kids want to see a movie 1269 01:23:27,090 --> 01:23:28,500 like this? What do you advise them? 1270 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,990 Well, when I start seeing the trailers, I'll ask well, come 1271 01:23:34,050 --> 01:23:37,170 on, I only have one child is old enough really view something 1272 01:23:37,170 --> 01:23:42,660 like this? I'll ask her. What did you say? Like when that 1273 01:23:42,660 --> 01:23:44,460 trailer played? I'll ask her. What do you see? What did you 1274 01:23:44,460 --> 01:23:49,410 hear? Right? What's the motive here? And now she started her 1275 01:23:49,410 --> 01:23:52,590 eyes become very sharp because she's like, Dad, I saw that. 1276 01:23:53,130 --> 01:23:59,280 Good. I see how they don't teach this one thing I don't want 1277 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:03,360 anybody to do. I don't tell my children what to think I teach 1278 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:08,970 them how to think yes. Exactly. Well, if they come to a 1279 01:24:08,970 --> 01:24:12,150 conclusion on their own, through their own thought process, so be 1280 01:24:12,150 --> 01:24:12,300 it. 1281 01:24:12,810 --> 01:24:15,960 What I take away from this is I'm actually extremely positive, 1282 01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:20,100 because here we are here, you are really exposing this 1283 01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:22,920 propaganda for what it is, I never would have thought in 1284 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,860 these terms, I would have still been a little bit stuck in the 1285 01:24:25,890 --> 01:24:30,120 British actor thing to take. So thank you for taking this all 1286 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:36,210 the way down to the the cycles of exploitation. And and really 1287 01:24:36,210 --> 01:24:43,170 the disingenuousness of, of Leah where Lena weighed in in her 1288 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,100 explanation of her choices, whereas it's just another one of 1289 01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:52,170 those. It truly is a trauma, trauma entertainment flick, and 1290 01:24:52,170 --> 01:24:56,670 it's meant to give people something in these Oso troubling 1291 01:24:56,670 --> 01:25:01,440 times. But above all, it's going to close the round. Thanks and 1292 01:25:01,470 --> 01:25:06,120 and keep people nice and docile where they need to be and just 1293 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:07,020 laugh at the screen. 1294 01:25:08,970 --> 01:25:12,420 And hopefully we've coined a term today of these type of 1295 01:25:12,420 --> 01:25:14,520 movies as a racial thriller. 1296 01:25:14,879 --> 01:25:19,499 Racial thriller. Thank you go get that tattooed on the inside 1297 01:25:19,499 --> 01:25:20,309 of my eyelids 1298 01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:24,840 and I would remind people that the ones that are rolling their 1299 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:32,460 eyes and say all MO You I am a black man. Black man, you idiot. 1300 01:25:34,020 --> 01:25:38,970 gives you no credits with me but okay. For the show. Yes. Mo 1301 01:25:38,970 --> 01:25:41,310 Thank you. Thank you very much. Once again, this is this has 1302 01:25:41,310 --> 01:25:45,210 been good and I am going to have my eyes open for for more about 1303 01:25:45,210 --> 01:25:47,430 this movie. Also, I think I'm gonna go I'm gonna go back and 1304 01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:51,120 watch Hollywood shuffle. That was I remember that was so 1305 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:54,450 funny. I was so good. Robert Townsend men are fantastic and 1306 01:25:54,450 --> 01:25:58,140 if and informative as all great satire, of course, a lot of 1307 01:25:58,140 --> 01:25:58,770 truth in 1308 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:03,630 and wish and so the the underlying message here is that 1309 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,200 when there needs to be a revolution, the revolution has 1310 01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,690 been taking place for a while I think the internet is 1311 01:26:09,690 --> 01:26:12,930 facilitating it. Most people have slipped into the mainstream 1312 01:26:12,930 --> 01:26:16,110 version of the internet with apps and iPhones and, and 1313 01:26:16,110 --> 01:26:19,830 colorful pictures and things that you think are important and 1314 01:26:19,890 --> 01:26:24,780 the only way to go. And that's just not true. And this is the 1315 01:26:24,780 --> 01:26:29,130 perfect example of it. This is a program that is done completely 1316 01:26:29,130 --> 01:26:33,240 void of any corporate interest, which also means it's perilous 1317 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:38,220 because we need to fund this for the work to continue. So I will 1318 01:26:38,220 --> 01:26:41,460 pitch again that we have a value for value model. If you got any 1319 01:26:41,460 --> 01:26:43,800 value from this, if this is something you're going to tell 1320 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,220 your friends about talking about around the water cooler. By the 1321 01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:50,910 way, tread lightly, he got to ease into it, he's into it. It's 1322 01:26:50,910 --> 01:26:53,100 always always got to be careful you don't want to alienate 1323 01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:56,670 people right away. It's not it's not easy. Then you need to 1324 01:26:56,670 --> 01:27:00,360 support it. And please do that by sending whatever you felt 1325 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,520 this program or whatever information you learned. 1326 01:27:02,700 --> 01:27:05,490 Whatever that value was send that to us here at mo fax with 1327 01:27:05,490 --> 01:27:09,630 Adam curry and the easy direct link to do that is Mo fund 1328 01:27:09,630 --> 01:27:14,730 me.com mo e fund me.com Thank you again mo this was fantastic. 1329 01:27:16,590 --> 01:27:20,430 And as I always say pay attention to everything and the 1330 01:27:20,430 --> 01:27:21,690 truth will reveal itself 1331 01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:25,080 and we will be back next week I'm traveling Monday so we'll 1332 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,740 probably have to do this maybe a little bit later Monday night 1333 01:27:28,770 --> 01:27:31,980 when I get back or Sunday Tuesday, but we will be back 1334 01:27:31,980 --> 01:27:35,280 regardless until then see everybody will know the MO facts 1335 01:27:35,280 --> 01:28:39,960 with Adam curry. 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