1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:16,710 The facts with Adam curry for November 25 2019. This is 2 00:00:16,710 --> 00:00:18,480 episode number 16. 3 00:00:20,940 --> 00:00:22,020 Now that's an opening 4 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,340 and happy fourth month anniversary Mo 5 00:00:27,750 --> 00:00:32,100 Yeah, we have what's that 16 shows is four months. Yeah, give 6 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:33,000 or take some change. Yeah, 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,410 pretty much we, man we're moving and grooving along here. 8 00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:40,800 Man, I'm enjoying every bit of it. 9 00:00:41,580 --> 00:00:46,590 Did Oh my friend Ditto. So today what is today is the 25th of 10 00:00:46,590 --> 00:00:51,240 November 2019. We got a brand new mo facts with Adam curry 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,950 lined up for you and what we discussed what the topic would 12 00:00:55,950 --> 00:00:59,670 be, which would be I think if I looked at the clips, we are 13 00:00:59,670 --> 00:01:02,250 deconstructing Colin Kaepernick. Is that right? 14 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,860 Yes, I've waited to broach this topic because I knew he was 15 00:01:07,860 --> 00:01:11,130 going to be ever evolving story ever since he came onto the 16 00:01:11,130 --> 00:01:16,470 scene. And I think we reached a somewhat of a climax with the 17 00:01:16,470 --> 00:01:16,980 story. 18 00:01:17,310 --> 00:01:21,060 Oh, okay. So you mean the story's ending? It's over. 19 00:01:21,090 --> 00:01:22,020 That's it. It's done. 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,670 Well, well, I think there will be one more final scene like 21 00:01:26,670 --> 00:01:30,360 with any good movie, you know, um, you have the pick what they 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:36,660 call the math. Right after the comic? Oh, the epilogue. Yes. So 23 00:01:37,290 --> 00:01:40,740 I think we'll have that that portion still left. Okay. Well, 24 00:01:40,740 --> 00:01:44,250 I think now is we reached the climax. I think he's completely 25 00:01:44,250 --> 00:01:48,720 done with the NFL. And I think both sides are happy about that. 26 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,730 Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. All right. And preface for this. I'm 27 00:01:54,570 --> 00:01:57,660 not a sports guy. So I don't know really much other than, you 28 00:01:57,660 --> 00:02:00,270 know, some of the stuff we've looked into with the social 29 00:02:00,270 --> 00:02:05,850 justice warrior angle. So I hope to learn a lot today. 30 00:02:06,870 --> 00:02:10,860 So that's, I'm glad you're not a sports fan. And I didn't make 31 00:02:10,860 --> 00:02:15,210 any assumptions. So what we're going to do is build up from the 32 00:02:15,210 --> 00:02:21,630 very moment that he refused to stand all the way up to where we 33 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,250 asked up today. Oh, perfect. Excellent. All right, so let's 34 00:02:26,250 --> 00:02:28,440 get right into it. Refuse to stand. 35 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:31,710 It's the rare occasion when sports and politics collide and 36 00:02:31,710 --> 00:02:35,160 an NFL quarterback has certainly ignited a firestorm. We're 37 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,950 talking about Colin Kaepernick. He's the San Francisco 40 Niners 38 00:02:37,950 --> 00:02:40,290 quarterback, and he's been refusing to stand for the 39 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:43,980 national anthem before all three preseason games in protest. 40 00:02:43,980 --> 00:02:46,770 Ron's here with the reason behind his activism. And this 41 00:02:46,770 --> 00:02:49,200 reaction has been swift from every side. 42 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,840 It really has no Kaepernick, who just a few years ago, three 43 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,170 years ago, led the San Francisco 40 Niners to the Super Bowl is 44 00:02:55,170 --> 00:02:57,900 well known for speaking out on social issues, that what he's 45 00:02:57,900 --> 00:03:00,960 doing now is a protest over police killings of African 46 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,800 Americans is drawing a huge reaction condemnation from many 47 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:09,030 and support from others. This morning, the spotlight on 48 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:13,620 football star Colin Kaepernick for taking a stand by refusing 49 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:17,730 to stand San Francisco 40 Niners quarterback remaining seated 50 00:03:17,730 --> 00:03:20,550 during the playing of the national anthem at three 51 00:03:20,550 --> 00:03:25,050 preseason games. A protest he says over police brutality 52 00:03:25,050 --> 00:03:27,390 against African Americans kapernick saying in an 53 00:03:27,390 --> 00:03:31,200 interview, I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag 54 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,710 for a country that oppresses black people and people of color 55 00:03:34,740 --> 00:03:37,560 adding to me this is bigger than football, and it would be 56 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,160 selfish on my part to look the other way. Yeah, this is how 57 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:46,230 most people were introduced to Colin Kaepernick social actions. 58 00:03:47,010 --> 00:03:49,020 But of course, we know this a little bit more behind the 59 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:53,730 story. Because I think he was just sitting down because he was 60 00:03:53,730 --> 00:03:56,430 tired and wasn't in the game, if I recall correctly. 61 00:03:57,690 --> 00:04:03,510 Actually. Let me give a little timeline prior to him city. 62 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:09,840 Okay, so on June 4. Colin Kaepernick sign a record. Right 63 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,160 signed a record six year extension for $126 million. That 64 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,870 was June 4 on 2014. Then he asked the problems in San 65 00:04:18,870 --> 00:04:25,170 Francisco during that season. And in November 2 2015, he was 66 00:04:25,170 --> 00:04:33,720 benched. And then that's when we came into February 26 2016. 67 00:04:33,750 --> 00:04:38,670 export trade. And then he came back the following season. That 68 00:04:38,670 --> 00:04:44,010 was the August 26 2016. And he was noticed sitting, sit and 69 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,100 notice the key words sitting during the national anthem. 70 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,430 Right? Right sitting not kneeling sitting on the bench, 71 00:04:50,430 --> 00:04:51,120 right? I remember 72 00:04:51,150 --> 00:04:54,420 and that's going to be a very important detail and we're going 73 00:04:54,420 --> 00:04:58,020 to get to that but it was captured by Jennifer Lee Chan 74 00:04:58,020 --> 00:05:02,850 and she was the the photographer for the San Francisco 40 Niners 75 00:05:03,090 --> 00:05:05,730 actually captured a picture of him and tweeted it out of him 76 00:05:05,730 --> 00:05:08,040 sitting at the back of the bench. He wasn't a very very 77 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,760 back on the sidelines sitting on the bench while the other 78 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:17,160 players are standing for the national anthem. So Well, up to 79 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,810 this point he's taking a seat um from what I thought was I think 80 00:05:21,810 --> 00:05:27,180 he thought think he was just being a malcontent because he 81 00:05:27,180 --> 00:05:31,950 wasn't the starter anymore. He has had some problems with 82 00:05:31,950 --> 00:05:36,780 injury and I just think that he I mean, this is my personal 83 00:05:36,780 --> 00:05:40,890 opinion and when I cuz I follow sports that I just took it as 84 00:05:40,890 --> 00:05:46,560 him like I said, being a malcontent because he didn't 85 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,780 have the starting role that he was used to right 86 00:05:48,780 --> 00:05:54,120 in like a baby. Pretty pretty much pouting. Yeah, there you 87 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,670 go. Oh, my god like malcontents. Sounds so official. 88 00:05:57,539 --> 00:06:02,459 So um, Harry Edwards, we have to look and see who he is because 89 00:06:02,459 --> 00:06:03,929 he's important to the story. 90 00:06:04,140 --> 00:06:07,440 Sociologists Harry Edwards has been an activist from the day he 91 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,590 realized that sport wasn't the toy department of human life. 92 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:14,400 Edwards, a professor emeritus at Cal Berkeley, was the chief 93 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,640 organizer of the Olympic Project for Human Rights and the guiding 94 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,720 force behind John Carlos and Tommie Smith 1968 Olympic 95 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,350 protests. Decades later, he's advised Colin Kaepernick on his 96 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:28,470 protests and publicly advocated for the quarterbacks returned to 97 00:06:28,470 --> 00:06:31,740 the NFL, a former basketball player at San Jose State, 98 00:06:31,890 --> 00:06:35,310 Edwards first organized protests at his alma mater. Over the 99 00:06:35,310 --> 00:06:38,370 years, he's worked for a number of sports teams and leaves 100 00:06:38,430 --> 00:06:41,250 consulting on issues of diversity. Because of his 101 00:06:41,250 --> 00:06:44,100 outspokenness, he's received death threats and been viewed by 102 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:48,090 the FBI as a national security threat. As Edward said recently, 103 00:06:48,270 --> 00:06:51,900 the last words out of his mouth will probably be I protest, he's 104 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:55,170 done in his whole life, changing the sports world in the process. 105 00:06:56,280 --> 00:07:00,600 Right, and I think Kaepernick was friends with him or talk 106 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,310 with him or took advice from him. 107 00:07:02,969 --> 00:07:07,109 Well, he was Kaepernick, quote unquote, mentor, there you go. 108 00:07:08,009 --> 00:07:12,149 Our advisor, or maybe from the school of thought I have 109 00:07:12,149 --> 00:07:12,809 handler. 110 00:07:14,490 --> 00:07:16,650 Nice. Yes, of course. Honestly, 111 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:20,700 honestly, we believe Colin Kaepernick is a useful idiot. 112 00:07:21,510 --> 00:07:25,590 Some maybe some have used the term I've heard in the 113 00:07:25,620 --> 00:07:30,180 conspiracy realm of a MK MK Ultra. 114 00:07:31,950 --> 00:07:32,670 Nice. 115 00:07:33,690 --> 00:07:39,450 So we've know for sure Mr. Harry Edwards has been advising him. 116 00:07:39,810 --> 00:07:43,620 And it makes nothing but sense if he advised him on taking the 117 00:07:43,620 --> 00:07:47,430 seat. Because they as I mentioned in the previous clip, 118 00:07:47,460 --> 00:07:50,820 he advised Carlos Edwards not forget the other gentleman's 119 00:07:50,820 --> 00:07:54,060 name, to make the process that the six data Olympics with the 120 00:07:54,060 --> 00:07:57,960 black black fits the Black Power Fist. Yep. Yeah. So he was the 121 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:04,860 brains behind that. So this is where we are. So in the next 122 00:08:04,860 --> 00:08:07,650 clip, we're going to hear Mr. Harry Edwards speak on Colin 123 00:08:07,650 --> 00:08:08,190 Kaepernick. 124 00:08:08,700 --> 00:08:11,970 So what's the next step for modern day athletes in what you 125 00:08:11,970 --> 00:08:17,040 call the struggle? Now, the thing is power. And the issue 126 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:24,120 becomes for them, how do we frame it up, so that we can move 127 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,330 forward and make our contribution? Right now, Colin 128 00:08:27,330 --> 00:08:30,000 Kaepernick, San Francisco for tonight as a team that I've been 129 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,230 with for 31 years is the face of that effort. We have a lot of 130 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:37,680 work to do in terms of trying to figure out exactly where this 131 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:41,280 was going to end up in terms of the framing and how are you how 132 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,360 are you helping him frame that? Well, basically, it's, it's, 133 00:08:45,390 --> 00:08:50,100 it's an ongoing conversation. He's very, very bright. Colin is 134 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:55,170 very, very bright. He's very, very committed. More than 135 00:08:55,170 --> 00:08:59,280 anything else, he wants to have a constructive impact. He 136 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:04,380 understands the evolution of this movement in athletics going 137 00:09:04,470 --> 00:09:10,380 back to the pre World War Two years, he's aware of that. More 138 00:09:10,380 --> 00:09:15,210 than anything else, I tried to answer his questions, and to put 139 00:09:15,210 --> 00:09:18,690 everything in perspective and give him a broader handle on 140 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,910 exactly where he is, and what he's involved in. And as much as 141 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:30,060 anything else. The price, the cost of what he is doing. And 142 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:31,380 he's good with all of that. 143 00:09:32,069 --> 00:09:35,849 cup. Okay. Oh, interesting. So he's been briefed on what it's 144 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:39,389 like to be an activist and I gotta say, two things about 145 00:09:39,389 --> 00:09:41,729 that. But first of all, Harry Edwards looks badass. I'm 146 00:09:41,729 --> 00:09:44,909 looking at his picture on the Wikipedia. The band is like a 147 00:09:44,909 --> 00:09:46,139 shaft guy is. 148 00:09:49,770 --> 00:09:52,620 Yeah, in the goatee. Yeah, and second, 149 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,570 keep saying Colin, 150 00:09:55,950 --> 00:09:59,880 was that too? I don't know if it's just a weird pronunciation 151 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:05,040 of His name, but yeah, I picked up on that as well. But he says 152 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:10,800 he, Colin almost say calling myself Colin on was was aware of 153 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:17,610 the price that it was going to cost him right. When we look at 154 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,080 Colin Kaepernick, and I have to say this, up until this point, 155 00:10:22,410 --> 00:10:27,780 before him taking the seat, he was not known or a little bit 156 00:10:27,780 --> 00:10:32,310 before taking the seat. He wasn't known as a as a activist. 157 00:10:32,340 --> 00:10:36,360 Now, he was a GQ pretty boy. Yes, that's what he was known 158 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:43,800 for. eveness even to the point where he I can't find a picture. 159 00:10:44,010 --> 00:10:47,130 And I've challenged anybody that I've talked to, I'll give them 160 00:10:47,130 --> 00:10:51,810 $100 To find Colin Kaepernick and a Trayvon hoodie, or Trayvon 161 00:10:51,810 --> 00:10:56,880 Martin hoodie, because that was the easiest protest to have on 162 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,110 your social media account, to you know, when Trayvon Martin 163 00:11:01,110 --> 00:11:04,860 was killed, one of the process you saw was people taking 164 00:11:04,860 --> 00:11:08,430 pictures with the hoodie on, right, you saw it wave all the 165 00:11:08,430 --> 00:11:13,140 way up to Congress. I mean, you politicians, everybody, but I 166 00:11:13,140 --> 00:11:18,090 cannot find one single picture of Colin Kaepernick with the 167 00:11:18,090 --> 00:11:20,910 hoodie on now. And that's just that's strange to me. 168 00:11:20,940 --> 00:11:28,230 Do you have a Trayvon hoodie? No. Okay. Why wouldn't Why would 169 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:30,180 he have one because that was what everybody was doing. 170 00:11:30,689 --> 00:11:35,369 It was everybody. It was like, it was almost like a challenge. 171 00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:39,839 You know, kind of that kind of vibe that you had, um, you know 172 00:11:39,839 --> 00:11:45,809 what people would change their filter on their on their icons? 173 00:11:45,899 --> 00:11:50,459 Oh, socially. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, it was that kind of thing. 174 00:11:50,489 --> 00:11:55,619 It was like, so for him to be a so called Kournikova activist, a 175 00:11:55,619 --> 00:12:00,419 social justice warrior. And that to be absent. I just I think 176 00:12:00,419 --> 00:12:02,939 that speaks to that. He is new to this game. 177 00:12:02,970 --> 00:12:06,720 Right. Okay. Agreed. That makes sense. I do have a picture of a 178 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,300 car. I'm trying to get my 100 bucks. I have a picture of him 179 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:12,810 and a hoodie. But it's his own hoodie. It's the deer racism on 180 00:12:12,810 --> 00:12:15,480 not my grandparents. Sincerely these hands. 181 00:12:16,290 --> 00:12:19,890 Yeah, so you're not gonna You can post that you can find 182 00:12:19,890 --> 00:12:23,820 pictures, even with him with Trayvon Martin's parents. But at 183 00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:27,420 the time, on his social media, I haven't found anywhere and 184 00:12:27,420 --> 00:12:34,080 nobody has collected the $100. So Gotcha. So now we have to 185 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:39,210 look at who all has a vested interest and common cabinet 186 00:12:39,210 --> 00:12:43,200 being activists. There's a few people that I want to bring to 187 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:48,360 light that people may not be aware of. One of them being Miss 188 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,770 nessa D AB, which is Colin Kaepernick, girlfriend, Taylor's 189 00:12:52,770 --> 00:12:56,580 the girlfriend. Yes. Before we get into this, this next clip 190 00:12:56,580 --> 00:12:59,820 about her. I want to give a little feedback. I mean, a 191 00:12:59,820 --> 00:13:05,970 little background on how they got together. Well, nessa D AB 192 00:13:05,970 --> 00:13:13,530 used to date Colin Kaepernick ex teammate, all this Smith. And 193 00:13:13,620 --> 00:13:16,440 there was a report and I didn't want to get into the gossipy 194 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,070 side, too much of the story. I wanted to keep you're just on 195 00:13:20,220 --> 00:13:26,940 the activism, and the political side that we normally pay 196 00:13:26,940 --> 00:13:30,300 attention to. But they supposedly got into a fight. And 197 00:13:30,300 --> 00:13:34,140 it was well reported on several sports news stations. They got 198 00:13:34,140 --> 00:13:38,400 to our locker room fight and root cause was behind. She 199 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:45,060 started dating Colin and broke it off with Alden. So that's how 200 00:13:45,060 --> 00:13:49,890 they came about. So let's just get into some background on Miss 201 00:13:49,890 --> 00:13:51,300 nessa Diaz. Oh, 202 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,170 I understand that you're dating Colin Kaepernick he is we're 203 00:13:55,170 --> 00:13:58,170 talking about him a lot these days. He is amazing. What are 204 00:13:58,170 --> 00:14:01,290 your thoughts on him sitting and the kind of the controversy 205 00:14:01,290 --> 00:14:02,820 that's surrounding? I support 206 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:07,350 him? 100% you know, and I think it's amazing that he's able to 207 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:11,610 exercise his freedom of speech. And I think that that's what 208 00:14:11,610 --> 00:14:15,060 makes being an American amazing is that we can be open and we 209 00:14:15,060 --> 00:14:17,730 can say these things. And this is something that's important. 210 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,990 And I think that we should use this to have open dialogue and 211 00:14:21,990 --> 00:14:25,770 take steps to make this country a better place to live in. 212 00:14:26,340 --> 00:14:28,470 Now they don't have like a conversation before this. Did 213 00:14:28,470 --> 00:14:32,340 you know it was coming? Did you think he ever anticipated would 214 00:14:32,340 --> 00:14:33,870 blow up this big because I mean, 215 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:41,160 you Colin truly feels this he lives this and it's from his 216 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,730 heart and that's what makes this so beautiful, because this 217 00:14:44,730 --> 00:14:46,530 wasn't pre planned. You know? 218 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:53,400 Oh my god that is couldn't resist for Amazings in there, 219 00:14:53,670 --> 00:15:00,510 and I knew you were gonna do it. And it was important all kinds. 220 00:15:00,780 --> 00:15:02,970 That's just me paying attention to Well, 221 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,110 no, it's important that you caught that because we have to 222 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:11,250 do the background on Miss Nessa. Yeah, she is she's from Cal 223 00:15:11,250 --> 00:15:18,030 Berkeley as well, right Mr. Harry Edwards got she was a star 224 00:15:18,030 --> 00:15:21,540 student. She started Cal Berkeley at 17. 225 00:15:21,570 --> 00:15:25,230 And she did she take sociology classes from the professor 226 00:15:25,230 --> 00:15:26,100 communications. 227 00:15:26,130 --> 00:15:30,780 Oh, communication, right? She's a popular DJ on one of the 228 00:15:30,780 --> 00:15:37,530 popular urban radio stations in New York. She went to MTV KTVU 229 00:15:37,530 --> 00:15:43,170 BLS. What's I think it was power power. 95. Yes, power 90 230 00:15:43,170 --> 00:15:44,100 Not to maybe 231 00:15:44,430 --> 00:15:47,250 don't quote me on that. But the one of the major two I think is 232 00:15:47,250 --> 00:15:53,100 10106 95. Wanted to make her to she was the VJ DJ there. She was 233 00:15:53,100 --> 00:15:58,500 on the popular show girl code. TV. She in? 234 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:04,260 Doesn't seem you ever seen that girl code show? Yes. Oh, my God. 235 00:16:04,770 --> 00:16:06,300 It's it's jarring. 236 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,110 It's a fine piece of mocker show they have 237 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:15,630 going there you go. That's it. Yes. 238 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:20,790 So in this clip, she says that her and Colin didn't discuss 239 00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:25,890 this. Wish it either way I read it. If you want to believe that 240 00:16:25,890 --> 00:16:28,410 they didn't discuss this, then this was just a spur of the 241 00:16:28,410 --> 00:16:33,480 moment thing he had going and had no plan as what people want 242 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,550 to paint it as to be Oh, he had this grand plan to bring social 243 00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:43,680 awareness. But I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I 244 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,060 believe that. It was discussed. Because just a little 245 00:16:48,180 --> 00:16:52,620 foreshadowing here. She, she is she's gonna play a very active 246 00:16:52,620 --> 00:16:58,140 role in this protest, as we start going down to clips here. 247 00:16:59,130 --> 00:17:02,280 So I don't think she just got pulled in at the last minute. 248 00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:02,610 Right. So 249 00:17:02,610 --> 00:17:06,570 this is a data point of view saying, you know, as we unfold 250 00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:11,220 the mind control or whatever it she could also be a sub handler, 251 00:17:11,220 --> 00:17:12,600 I guess is what we're saying here. 252 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:14,910 We're gonna get there. 253 00:17:16,109 --> 00:17:22,019 As always, God. No, put on the goggles. Oh, you're restricting 254 00:17:22,019 --> 00:17:22,529 goggles? 255 00:17:23,130 --> 00:17:26,550 Oh, I think yes. I do have to put those on where I didn't hear 256 00:17:26,550 --> 00:17:29,340 they let me put my glasses on one second. takes a minute. 257 00:17:31,860 --> 00:17:34,980 Okay, thank you future is now black. 258 00:17:35,699 --> 00:17:38,279 Okay. Right now. 259 00:17:42,750 --> 00:17:44,310 Inside joke Nice. Okay. 260 00:17:47,010 --> 00:17:51,330 So there was one more influence that the media doesn't talk 261 00:17:51,330 --> 00:17:56,790 about. And that is the Trent, the transgender female, Mia 262 00:17:56,790 --> 00:17:58,590 Isabella, the other 263 00:17:58,590 --> 00:18:01,290 name that you get linked up with a lot, and it's especially been 264 00:18:01,290 --> 00:18:03,540 happening more because he's been in the news, Colin Kaepernick. 265 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,230 Is that something you're going to be addressing on the on the 266 00:18:07,230 --> 00:18:09,360 podcast? Is there a story to address there? 267 00:18:12,450 --> 00:18:15,000 I'll take my time with that. Yeah, that's somebody that I 268 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,780 extremely I respect extremely, you actually care for extremely 269 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,430 think he's an incredible person that they braveness that he's 270 00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:26,640 showing now I admire and I feel like maybe has something to do 271 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,160 with him making him feel bold enough to be the kind of person 272 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,920 he's become lately. How did you do that? We had a great 273 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,770 friendship, great connection. And we talked a lot. I'll say 274 00:18:34,770 --> 00:18:38,310 that. During the tiger situation, someone saw some kind 275 00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:39,420 of social media. 276 00:18:39,450 --> 00:18:42,660 By the way. I should point out something that you were like, 277 00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:46,770 you were like, Okay, I had this plan with Tiger. One. I just if 278 00:18:46,770 --> 00:18:50,010 we ever got if we ever got exposed, we would just tell 279 00:18:50,010 --> 00:18:52,680 everybody that we were really good friends. Oh, shit. And then 280 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,770 I was like, hey, what about Colin Kaepernick? Well, I'll say 281 00:18:55,770 --> 00:19:00,060 we're just really good. Okay, well, that kind of explains that 282 00:19:00,060 --> 00:19:01,290 went away and how you want it, 283 00:19:01,410 --> 00:19:06,360 right. Okay, this is interesting. Nia isa Bella. You 284 00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:12,960 set her up as a transgender. She's a transgender pornographic 285 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,710 actress. 286 00:19:14,940 --> 00:19:16,230 Wow, I didn't know that. 287 00:19:17,250 --> 00:19:20,280 I mean, I'm doing Show Notes these days, and I'm doing the 288 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,040 wiki page. And here it is. Mia Isabella. 289 00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:24,600 Show notes right. 290 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:31,020 An American transgender former I'm sorry, former pornographic 291 00:19:31,020 --> 00:19:36,090 actress as she won her last AVN award. She's the adult Video 292 00:19:36,090 --> 00:19:41,880 Awards. Oh, no, she wasn't an ex biz award in 2014. I guess she 293 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,150 quit the biz after that one. She she left on a high note. 294 00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:52,290 Well, my question is just for an hour I'm gonna take her from the 295 00:19:52,290 --> 00:19:59,040 intersectionality standpoint. Why she not all over the news. 296 00:19:59,790 --> 00:20:04,890 She It would be perfect. Right? Right. Right. Column stands with 297 00:20:04,890 --> 00:20:11,100 the transgender community. Yeah. I think I know why because that 298 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:13,680 would hurt him and other demographics, 299 00:20:13,710 --> 00:20:19,710 but black men who watched football pretty much like an 300 00:20:19,710 --> 00:20:22,200 underdog understand that? Sure. So 301 00:20:24,420 --> 00:20:30,420 just leading up to the next clip, how was she made? Not to 302 00:20:30,420 --> 00:20:33,090 be in the spotlight. But you do you think 303 00:20:33,090 --> 00:20:34,230 you inspired him to 304 00:20:35,070 --> 00:20:38,100 fired me, I think even during the situation that I was going 305 00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:41,880 through, this was a person who made sure to keep in contact 306 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,080 with me and made sure to kind of just make me feel like I could 307 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:51,330 stand up to anything. And I think it was a probably an 308 00:20:51,330 --> 00:20:54,630 important moment for him as well, to see how the world was 309 00:20:54,660 --> 00:20:56,940 reacting to me and how people were kind of just really 310 00:20:56,940 --> 00:21:00,390 trashing me, and how I was still trying my best to stand as tall 311 00:21:00,390 --> 00:21:03,750 and represent and protect people. I was at a really, 312 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,170 extremely low point. I was frightened is that because it 313 00:21:07,170 --> 00:21:11,790 was after the tiger stuff was during the time I was I was so 314 00:21:11,790 --> 00:21:14,310 afraid of what was happening. I didn't know what was going on. 315 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:16,770 Like I said, when you're dealing with crisis management people 316 00:21:16,890 --> 00:21:22,080 contacting you and attorneys and PR people and all that all the 317 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,990 media like every show out there. I'm on TMZ I'm on Monday when I 318 00:21:24,990 --> 00:21:27,330 see all this stuff happening and I'm just like what in the world 319 00:21:27,330 --> 00:21:28,470 is going on? 320 00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:32,730 I missed something I missed the the tiger fight what what what 321 00:21:32,730 --> 00:21:33,420 did I miss? 322 00:21:34,050 --> 00:21:37,800 Okay, so Tiger is a rapper. Right? Thanks. Thanks, smoke, 323 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,710 give me a little bit of credit. Just a teeny bit of credit. 324 00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:41,670 Okay, so 325 00:21:42,030 --> 00:21:48,450 I will, I'm giving his title who used to date Kylie Jenner. Oh, 326 00:21:49,860 --> 00:21:56,280 Mia, Isabella came out and somehow got linked to Tiger. And 327 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:01,620 that's when the whole whirlwind started up about her with Tiger 328 00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:07,500 and she like said crisis managers, attorneys TMC myself, 329 00:22:08,010 --> 00:22:11,850 Tigers know where biggest celebrities Colin Kaepernick is 330 00:22:11,850 --> 00:22:12,180 so why 331 00:22:12,180 --> 00:22:14,490 didn't he have all the crisis management going on? 332 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,610 Exactly. Using when something is 333 00:22:20,610 --> 00:22:23,850 missing. It's meant to be there on purpose. 334 00:22:24,300 --> 00:22:27,780 When something is like I mean, that's why I played that last 335 00:22:27,780 --> 00:22:31,020 clip to show you that's the normal course of these things 336 00:22:31,020 --> 00:22:36,090 happening. And Tigers a way smaller celebrity, as I stated 337 00:22:36,090 --> 00:22:38,430 before, and then Colin Kaepernick, so you expect the 338 00:22:38,430 --> 00:22:41,610 same thing TMZ will be knocking down her door, they will be 339 00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:45,210 chasing her around trying to put a microphone in her face. What 340 00:22:45,210 --> 00:22:47,520 you know about Colin, what you know about Colin, but none of 341 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,540 that happened? How do 342 00:22:48,540 --> 00:22:51,630 you? How do you know that target or that Colin is a much bigger 343 00:22:51,630 --> 00:22:56,430 celebrity. I mean, it's if it's hard, it's hard for me to see 344 00:22:56,430 --> 00:23:00,300 sports guys that had the music celebrity level. But that's just 345 00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:01,800 me because I don't have that background. 346 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:05,880 It's because he crossed over me. He was a he was a pretty big 347 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,740 star, just being a sports star. But even now he's made it he's 348 00:23:10,740 --> 00:23:13,710 bigger than he was when he played football. 349 00:23:14,130 --> 00:23:16,680 Got it? Now I'm not I'm not questioning it. I'm just trying 350 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,490 to understand. Yeah, 351 00:23:17,790 --> 00:23:24,300 he's a he's a he's a social media. Superstar now got it. I 352 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:27,930 mean, even his silhouette is iconic. 353 00:23:27,930 --> 00:23:32,580 And yeah, iconic, iconic, iconic, and designed as such. 354 00:23:34,590 --> 00:23:39,990 Exactly. So just getting off of the background people. I just 355 00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:42,540 want to lay all those people out there. And you know, just to 356 00:23:42,540 --> 00:23:46,170 say, who who was who was in his circle 357 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,650 and nice crier. He's got a bunch of friends. 358 00:23:50,580 --> 00:23:53,730 Why are there people missing from the story? Why are there 359 00:23:53,730 --> 00:23:57,960 people there's highlighted in this story. And then we're going 360 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,480 to see, I mean, how they all play out in the future. But I 361 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,940 want to just want to do the background or and lay down the 362 00:24:02,940 --> 00:24:07,620 foundation there. So now we have the X. Why was it such a big 363 00:24:07,620 --> 00:24:14,550 deal? That he took a knee during the national anthem? Do you have 364 00:24:14,550 --> 00:24:17,130 any any clue ideas? Um, yes, I 365 00:24:17,130 --> 00:24:22,080 do. Yes, I do Mo and the reason why I do is because we looked at 366 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:27,060 this story on no agenda. And the biggest problem is, it's a 367 00:24:27,060 --> 00:24:32,460 television show. And the television show is paid for by 368 00:24:32,460 --> 00:24:36,960 sponsors and a big one. Around the time of the anthem is the 369 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,880 United States military, who pay millions of dollars to have jets 370 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:47,160 fly over and soldiers marching on the field and flags and all 371 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,000 kinds of stuff. 372 00:24:49,410 --> 00:24:50,280 Number seven, 373 00:24:50,370 --> 00:24:53,250 there's a scheme involving the Pentagon that Congress is trying 374 00:24:53,250 --> 00:24:56,460 to shut down. It's called paid patriotism. We're talking about 375 00:24:56,460 --> 00:24:59,610 millions of dollars that are being funneled from the Pentagon 376 00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:02,340 to proof professional sports teams around the country every 377 00:25:02,340 --> 00:25:05,880 single year. In return, the sports teams honor American 378 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,580 soldiers, and they promote the military at their sporting 379 00:25:08,580 --> 00:25:11,190 events. I guess you could think of it as sort of like product 380 00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:13,200 placement. You know, Jose, you're watching your favorite 381 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,900 YouTube video might not seem like a commercial. But in the 382 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:19,290 back, there's a perfect can of Bud Light just facing right 383 00:25:19,290 --> 00:25:22,290 towards you. That wasn't an accident. It is a commercial 384 00:25:22,380 --> 00:25:25,410 that these advertisers want to put in your face without you 385 00:25:25,410 --> 00:25:27,510 knowing that it's actually an advertisement that you're 386 00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:30,090 watching. This is sort of the same thing, according to John 387 00:25:30,090 --> 00:25:32,700 McCain, who actually looked really into it. And that's in 388 00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:34,680 itself. It's surprising that Republicans are going after 389 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,960 this. I think that's awesome. Anyway, according to John 390 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,810 McCain, who's now our Senate Armed Services Committee 391 00:25:39,810 --> 00:25:43,800 Chairman, since 2012, the Pentagon paid at least $6.8 392 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:49,290 million in contracts to teams in the NFL, the MLB, NHL and the 393 00:25:49,290 --> 00:25:52,380 MLS. Major League Soccer. Yes, there's a soccer league in this 394 00:25:52,380 --> 00:25:52,890 country. 395 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,130 That's less than I thought that was for one year. 396 00:25:57,330 --> 00:26:01,770 Yeah. And so I think that number 397 00:26:02,010 --> 00:26:05,370 goes to the way bigger Yeah, it goes to the NFL, not the teams, 398 00:26:05,370 --> 00:26:06,690 right? It goes to the NFL. 399 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,680 Right? Because they didn't they had these individual deals. 400 00:26:11,010 --> 00:26:14,220 Yeah, well, they own the turn on the television. Yeah, the NFL, 401 00:26:14,670 --> 00:26:16,080 onto the TV, right. So 402 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,040 Right. So per action per team, there was still more money being 403 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,510 funneled to the teams, like if you recognize this particular 404 00:26:24,510 --> 00:26:30,420 person will give you 20k I mean, homework. Yeah. So I mean, it's 405 00:26:30,420 --> 00:26:35,160 just not me. It's bigger than me saying it has me has to be mean, 406 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,000 it has to be so. Um, so let's just get into the second part of 407 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,390 this clip. 408 00:26:39,540 --> 00:26:42,300 I have the number here the New York Jets football team received 409 00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:46,920 $20,000 from the Pentagon, for what just to recognize one or 410 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,460 two New Jersey Army National Guard soldiers at halftime kind 411 00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:53,070 of hailing them as Hometown Heroes. I've seen that a games 412 00:26:53,070 --> 00:26:54,990 before they kind of come in and they say their names and 413 00:26:54,990 --> 00:26:57,930 everyone applauds. But I didn't know that the Pentagon was 414 00:26:57,930 --> 00:27:01,380 secretly paying for these kinds of things. Now, I'm all for, you 415 00:27:01,380 --> 00:27:03,450 know, promotion of the military. I don't mind if I'm watching 416 00:27:03,450 --> 00:27:06,420 television, and I see those those those commercials for the 417 00:27:06,420 --> 00:27:08,790 Marines or whatever. I think it's unnecessary. I don't blame 418 00:27:08,790 --> 00:27:11,730 them. Everyone does that. But at the same time, if the Pentagon 419 00:27:11,730 --> 00:27:14,370 is doing it in a way that we don't know, kind of like a Bud 420 00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:17,490 Light sneaks their little cans in there. I almost feel like 421 00:27:17,490 --> 00:27:19,920 they're trying to brainwash the masses. I don't know. Am I 422 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,410 looking into this too much? Am I being too sensitive? I just 423 00:27:22,410 --> 00:27:25,140 think it's weird that they kind of do it in this secretive way. 424 00:27:25,140 --> 00:27:27,480 It kind of changes how they're going about. And it's weird. 425 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,480 Yeah, we call this native advertising. It's been around 426 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,290 for a while. And it's, of course, the whole point is to be 427 00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:38,010 subversive to sneak it in. And it since we're talking about 428 00:27:38,010 --> 00:27:40,200 mind control, it's totally what it is. 429 00:27:41,370 --> 00:27:46,290 And so sports is almost synonymous with war. If you 430 00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:49,860 listen to the terminology. You got the bomb. You got the Blitz. 431 00:27:49,890 --> 00:27:50,670 Yeah, you know. 432 00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:54,810 The wishbone. Oh, right. That's yeah. 433 00:27:55,830 --> 00:28:00,720 I mean, a lot of yeah, a lot. A lot of it. Yeah. A lot of the 434 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,340 terms are military term course. A military term. You 435 00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:08,490 got uniforms, you're fighting, fight, fight, fight. Yes, of 436 00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:13,650 course. And then, but this is human nature and humans need 437 00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:16,920 this. This is what the Romans figured out. You know, we need 438 00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:19,740 the games we need to otherwise we're gonna go beat each other 439 00:28:19,740 --> 00:28:20,010 up. 440 00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:26,940 Bread and Circuses circus. Yep. And this is where a lot of 441 00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:29,940 people got pissed off with Colin Kaepernick. And I was one of 442 00:28:29,940 --> 00:28:35,460 them. Don't interject politics into my own football. My control 443 00:28:35,850 --> 00:28:38,910 is yes, you'd like you'd like to buy the Gatorade and all the 444 00:28:38,910 --> 00:28:41,460 other stuff that they're mind controlling you with, but not 445 00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:43,440 the politics part that's going forward? 446 00:28:43,710 --> 00:28:49,290 Yeah, not not even. It's okay. I have to admit, I'm a huge 447 00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:52,830 fantasy sports guy, fantasy football, fantasy basketball. 448 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:58,620 And for three to four hours a week, allows me to unwind and 449 00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:02,010 not think about anything else is going on in the world. Except my 450 00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:06,510 little fantasy team. And my group of 11 other guys I had 451 00:29:07,020 --> 00:29:12,000 finished up with and we kind of go back to childhood. Right? 452 00:29:12,629 --> 00:29:16,319 Well, you can ask me all you want, but I'm not into fantasy, 453 00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:22,139 anything Well, right. But of course, I understand. Yeah, I 454 00:29:22,139 --> 00:29:23,639 totally get that. So 455 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:31,110 we you start injecting bowl cry bowl crap crap into my mental 456 00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:34,920 escape. Because that's what it is. I mean, television is I 457 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,910 mean, we all have I mean, even though I'm probably the most one 458 00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:42,270 of the most aware of people when it comes to mind control and 459 00:29:42,270 --> 00:29:45,810 propaganda and all these things. We all have that little thing 460 00:29:45,810 --> 00:29:51,030 that we tap into. That's our escape. Yeah, for a few hours 461 00:29:51,030 --> 00:29:54,720 for sure. Whether it's reality TV show or whatever. So mine is 462 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,980 sports, so I can empathize with people. They say What the hell 463 00:29:58,980 --> 00:30:02,130 are you doing, man? I don't want to I don't want to talk about 464 00:30:02,460 --> 00:30:06,390 social justice issues or politics during my three hour 465 00:30:06,390 --> 00:30:10,620 football game. I had nothing to do with what he was protesting. 466 00:30:11,670 --> 00:30:15,900 You even had the people spraying this up with with the with the 467 00:30:15,930 --> 00:30:18,030 breast cancer and the guys wearing pink like, Why didn't 468 00:30:18,030 --> 00:30:23,280 wearing pink for pink shoes? Sure. Yeah. So you, but it's not 469 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,610 something you I mean, there's no Pearl broken breast cancer 470 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:28,650 people out there. So it's not I mean, it's not like it's 471 00:30:28,650 --> 00:30:37,860 polarizing. Oh, right. Yeah. Good point. So you have this 472 00:30:38,130 --> 00:30:44,430 propaganda going on at that pre game. And then you have this guy 473 00:30:44,430 --> 00:30:50,880 is that is the fly in the ointment interrupting that. So 474 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:57,870 somebody has had to change. So the question was, why, why Colin 475 00:30:57,870 --> 00:30:59,280 Kaepernick to the knee? 476 00:31:00,090 --> 00:31:01,620 What was your initial response? 477 00:31:01,620 --> 00:31:04,200 When you saw the Colin Kaepernick set for the national 478 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:04,530 anthem? 479 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,760 I'll be completely honest, my initial response was was anger. 480 00:31:08,910 --> 00:31:11,490 You know, I was angry and disappointed because I grew up 481 00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:14,310 in Niner fan and I was pulling for this guy. Now he just pissed 482 00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:18,060 on my flag. But then I just stopped making all these 483 00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:20,250 judgments and tried to listen to what he's talking about, and 484 00:31:20,250 --> 00:31:22,440 specifically is police brutality. And the more I 485 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,090 thought about it, the more I was, like, I want to try to 486 00:31:24,090 --> 00:31:26,130 understand where he's coming from at least someone because I 487 00:31:26,130 --> 00:31:28,140 hadn't walked around in his shoes, but he hasn't walked 488 00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:30,540 around in my boots. You know what I mean? So I just wrote a 489 00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:33,540 letter, and he got a hold of it. He contacted you. Yeah, he 490 00:31:33,540 --> 00:31:36,330 contacted me. He said he was inspired by it. And he was 491 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,730 wanting to sit down with me and just have a discussion. First 492 00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:40,890 thing he said we met was, I just want you to know, I appreciate 493 00:31:40,890 --> 00:31:43,290 your service more than anything I expressed to him, maybe 494 00:31:43,290 --> 00:31:45,570 there's a different way to demonstrate where you're showing 495 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,240 more respect for those that lay down their lives for what that 496 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,970 flag and anthem stands for. I suggested, you know, kneeling, 497 00:31:51,060 --> 00:31:53,730 because people kneel to pray, you know, will kneel in front of 498 00:31:53,790 --> 00:31:57,060 a fallen brother's grave, you know, to show respect, and he 499 00:31:57,060 --> 00:31:58,560 said, I think that would be really powerful. 500 00:31:58,860 --> 00:32:01,410 Kaepernick choosing not to sit on the bench this time, but to 501 00:32:01,410 --> 00:32:01,620 take 502 00:32:01,620 --> 00:32:04,200 a knee, the fact that he was willing to listen and go to a 503 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,930 knee versus sitting I thought was huge. That's an important 504 00:32:06,930 --> 00:32:09,300 step that he's taken. I think other people need to take a step 505 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:11,040 to and maybe listen to it. 506 00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:14,460 I remember this. And this is for me the weirdest link in the 507 00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:20,760 story, because I believe this is a Greenbrae. And the Greenbrae 508 00:32:20,820 --> 00:32:24,900 is the one who said, who urged him instead of sitting, which 509 00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:29,070 was not in protest, because we just, I mean, that's obvious 510 00:32:29,070 --> 00:32:34,620 because he was pouty. So I'm not sure what the what's the guy's 511 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:40,200 name, the Greenbrae Nate Boyer, Nate Boyer. He fits in somehow, 512 00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:43,620 but it's never really been investigated. Until today. 513 00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:44,310 Hopefully. 514 00:32:44,879 --> 00:32:49,049 I'll we're going to go to all the anti Mr. Nate warrior, but 515 00:32:49,049 --> 00:32:57,359 good now, Adam, um, this. Super woke so so Search Social Justice 516 00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:02,879 Warrior. And he'd come to his Greenbrae army guy telling me 517 00:33:02,879 --> 00:33:07,349 hey, you only be sitting down you need to take a knee and I 518 00:33:07,349 --> 00:33:08,729 say, Oh, yeah. Okay. 519 00:33:08,790 --> 00:33:09,510 Good idea. 520 00:33:11,820 --> 00:33:18,600 Sounds very plausible to me at all. Um, so we have to get into 521 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:22,230 Who is this Nate Borja character? Why him? 522 00:33:22,919 --> 00:33:26,639 Why Nick Boyer with a controversy that straddled both 523 00:33:26,639 --> 00:33:31,499 football and patriotism. Why was his perspective so unique? 524 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,220 It was actually interested in joining the military right out 525 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:39,390 of high school. But after 911 He really wanted to join the 526 00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:43,320 Special Forces. He wanted to become a Greenbrae. He was 527 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,940 deployed initially to Iraq. He got out of the army for a short 528 00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:53,040 period, and that's when he applied to University of Texas. 529 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,680 Lawyer wasn't your typical college player. He tried to make 530 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,980 the Longhorns football team as a 31 year old walk on 531 00:34:02,699 --> 00:34:06,089 an older guy that wasn't a tremendous athlete that didn't 532 00:34:06,089 --> 00:34:09,239 play high school football that wants to join a national 533 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,179 championship program. I mean, come on 534 00:34:12,180 --> 00:34:18,360 now. Huh? Yeah, come on now. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. 535 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:25,200 31 years old and wants to join the Longhorns. The number like 536 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:31,920 the main national championship level, Longhorns team, yes. And 537 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:37,530 he somehow walks on as a long snapper, which is probably the 538 00:34:37,530 --> 00:34:42,000 least important position on a football team. 539 00:34:42,030 --> 00:34:45,090 All right, you got to explain the long snapper is when 540 00:34:45,090 --> 00:34:47,130 someone's field goal for field goal. 541 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,790 I'm just guessing. Yeah. For golden punch. That's the guy. 542 00:34:53,700 --> 00:34:57,840 That's the guy that hikes the ball back to the kicker or the 543 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,660 place the guy that's holding the ball for the guy Gotta keep 544 00:35:00,690 --> 00:35:01,470 Yeah, this interest only 545 00:35:01,470 --> 00:35:04,170 job. I never realized that wasn't the regular quarterback 546 00:35:04,170 --> 00:35:04,260 who 547 00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:07,500 does that. Senator? Yeah, that's 548 00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:10,200 what I mean, Senator. Yeah, of course. It's the Senator. Oh, 549 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:10,560 yeah. 550 00:35:11,490 --> 00:35:15,990 Well, yeah, he's a special type of Senator. Yeah. Oh snap, 551 00:35:16,170 --> 00:35:19,680 because he does one thing very well. That's it. All you got to 552 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,670 do is get the ball 553 00:35:20,670 --> 00:35:22,170 back to in the guy's hands. 554 00:35:23,250 --> 00:35:28,740 Right. And they let the 31 year old walk on Greenbrae specials 555 00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:31,470 Force guy, Soldier 556 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,540 get the job. And he'd never played organized football in his 557 00:35:36,540 --> 00:35:37,020 life. 558 00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:45,330 Ever. Hmm. That's not suspicious at all, at all. Nate warrior 559 00:35:45,330 --> 00:35:48,330 too. And he said, You're losing your first and second team deep 560 00:35:48,330 --> 00:35:51,000 snapper. And I can do that. And I said, Have you ever done it? 561 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:54,360 He said, No, never done a day in my life. We'll take a ball coach 562 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,030 and I'm gonna go to Afghanistan. And I'm gonna practice every 563 00:35:57,030 --> 00:36:00,180 day. And I'll come back as your deep stamper and I thought 564 00:36:00,210 --> 00:36:02,010 Trump, this is gonna work. 565 00:36:03,690 --> 00:36:04,710 Number 37. 566 00:36:07,980 --> 00:36:12,870 He started on every snap for the next three years. We had him 567 00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:15,870 take an American flag on the field. Every time we would come 568 00:36:15,870 --> 00:36:17,790 out. He became a team leader. 569 00:36:18,330 --> 00:36:22,470 Many college football players have their summers off. Boyer 570 00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:26,790 spent his with the Special Forces in Afghanistan. After his 571 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:31,770 college career ended in 2014, the 34 year old former longmorn 572 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,140 had another long shot in mind earning a spot on an NFL roster. 573 00:36:37,799 --> 00:36:40,289 They called and said Coach Do you think I'll be drafted 574 00:36:40,289 --> 00:36:43,649 lesson? I'm gonna be honest with you says unlikely for you to 575 00:36:43,649 --> 00:36:46,649 make it because of your size. And because of your age. 576 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,360 In the 2015 preseason. Boyer got his NFL shot with the Seahawks 577 00:36:51,570 --> 00:36:55,560 in his only NFL game. He carried the American flag on to 578 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,610 CenturyLink Field. 579 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,960 Oh, okay. Here's what I think. It sounds to me like this guy 580 00:37:00,990 --> 00:37:04,800 was doing a little bit of native advertising for the United 581 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,840 States military. And they placed him initially with the 582 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,740 Longhorns. Which, by the way, I live in Austin. It's a fine 583 00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:17,700 military industrial complex city. Lots of spooks lots of 584 00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:21,390 stuff going on. Lots of retired military so it sounds like he 585 00:37:21,390 --> 00:37:27,510 was a he was a part of his gig was promoting America and 586 00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:29,070 military on the field. 587 00:37:30,060 --> 00:37:32,640 And it worked for both parties because hit now you have this 588 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,500 guy, and they showed in this piece that I snagged the clip 589 00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:43,530 from, which was from the NFL channel in NFL films. He's at 590 00:37:43,530 --> 00:37:49,020 the combine and that's where you have the potential players 591 00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:52,470 that's coming up for the draft and as his huge gaggle of press 592 00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:57,630 around while pressing around him. Now he's a 34 year old 593 00:37:57,630 --> 00:37:57,990 long, 594 00:37:58,050 --> 00:38:01,350 long snapper huh? 595 00:38:01,740 --> 00:38:06,720 undersized? Not my words. That was Max brown Mack Browns words 596 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:13,170 from from the Longhorns. undersized, 34 years old, which 597 00:38:13,170 --> 00:38:17,220 at 34 years old, you're you're over the hill. And you're the 598 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,150 end of your prom for professional football players. 599 00:38:21,150 --> 00:38:21,270 Now, 600 00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:24,690 did you? Did you already find this very suspicious in putting 601 00:38:24,690 --> 00:38:27,450 together your fantasy team? I'm sure he didn't include the 602 00:38:27,450 --> 00:38:28,110 shill? 603 00:38:29,070 --> 00:38:34,170 No, I found it very. As I started peeling back the layers 604 00:38:34,170 --> 00:38:37,170 coming soon. And I saw Colin Kaepernick in the news we're 605 00:38:37,170 --> 00:38:40,470 taking make it a political stance. I was like, oh, what 606 00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:44,220 Colin Kaepernick, um, that that will be the birth. Let me be 607 00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:47,010 honest with you. I'm gonna be completely 100% honest with you. 608 00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:51,480 My first thing was Colin Kaepernick is black. 609 00:38:53,370 --> 00:38:55,050 You thought it was like some kind of Drake. 610 00:38:55,890 --> 00:38:59,940 Like he was he was very racially we use this term, racially 611 00:38:59,940 --> 00:39:05,040 ambiguous him and he could be Hispanic. He could be air. I 612 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,470 mean, you didn't. I mean, when you saw him, especially when his 613 00:39:07,470 --> 00:39:09,060 hair cut short as he is. 614 00:39:09,299 --> 00:39:13,229 When he was yeah, he looks much more Hispanic than right. So I 615 00:39:13,229 --> 00:39:13,649 was like, 616 00:39:13,650 --> 00:39:16,920 that was my first thing was that took me aback. I'm like, he's 617 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:22,470 black. And then after that, I'm like, he, like you said he's a 618 00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:27,750 GQ model. Yeah. He wasn't concerned with because you have 619 00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:32,670 certain players in the NFL that are known for being for being 620 00:39:33,060 --> 00:39:38,820 outspoken on social issues. You have Michael Bennett, you had 621 00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:43,440 what's the guy from Seattle Seahawks? I forget his name, but 622 00:39:43,470 --> 00:39:45,780 it's a few of them that you know, but he would not this guy, 623 00:39:45,810 --> 00:39:48,390 not Colin Kaepernick as he saw started this is 624 00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:49,440 Kaepernick a Das? 625 00:39:51,870 --> 00:39:56,880 I don't know what is the reason why I say that is his mother's 626 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,820 white. Was that mean that doesn't matter. Right? And they 627 00:39:59,820 --> 00:40:03,210 don't I won't speak of his father. And he was adopted by a 628 00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:06,630 white family. I think it five weeks old. So I mean, we don't 629 00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:09,510 know much about his history, which it doesn't matter. I mean, 630 00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:10,860 in the grass. No, 631 00:40:11,370 --> 00:40:13,770 it was just because this is the MO facts show. 632 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,970 Yeah, it was just shocking that he was black period. Right? 633 00:40:19,260 --> 00:40:23,190 Because and the reason why, let me explain why I say this for 634 00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:26,490 people like what does it matter? When that black quarterback 635 00:40:26,490 --> 00:40:32,760 comes in the NFL? That's a usually they label it as a black 636 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:39,270 quarterback. I mean, cuz this this. Yeah, so you can we 637 00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:40,170 handle. So we 638 00:40:40,170 --> 00:40:45,210 have, we have a Super Bowl in recent memory with two black 639 00:40:45,210 --> 00:40:47,310 quarterbacks, and they made a big deal out of it. 640 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:51,330 Yes, and every time a black quarterback goes to the Super 641 00:40:51,330 --> 00:40:53,880 Bowl, they make a big deal out of every time a black 642 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,760 quarterback is drafted, they make a big deal out of it, 643 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,800 because the usual Mo is the black quarterback is going to 644 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,190 play a certain style of football. And that was the that 645 00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:07,170 was knock against the black quarterback because they were 646 00:41:07,170 --> 00:41:11,010 like in the 70s and 60s is they don't have the mental capacity 647 00:41:11,010 --> 00:41:14,670 to to to play the position, you know, so 648 00:41:15,330 --> 00:41:20,670 that's really Yeah, I'm laughing but you even did it with a 649 00:41:20,670 --> 00:41:23,610 sports announcer voice I like that. Well, clearly these 650 00:41:24,210 --> 00:41:27,090 Americans don't have the mental capacity for quarterbacking. 651 00:41:27,930 --> 00:41:32,610 That was the justification. So we are very sensitive when it 652 00:41:32,610 --> 00:41:40,230 black quarterback comes into the NFL. So that's what took me 653 00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:43,350 aback about Colin Kaepernick. So then when the Green Beret thing 654 00:41:43,350 --> 00:41:46,800 came up, like hold on, and they you posed to be these so called 655 00:41:46,830 --> 00:41:51,210 unquote, quote unquote, radical that you let a military guy come 656 00:41:51,210 --> 00:41:53,640 in and tell you to take a knee which as he said in the clip 657 00:41:53,640 --> 00:42:02,730 himself, taking a knee is like a sign of obedience. Yes. So I was 658 00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:06,210 like, book bull crap. I mean, I started calling it bull crap 659 00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:09,150 from the very beginning, which was very unpopular. Wish it's 660 00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:12,360 very common for me to be on the very unpopular side. 661 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,900 Not not with the with the girls, huh? 662 00:42:16,350 --> 00:42:21,510 Yeah, um, yeah, I'm just the, you know, just the troublemaker. 663 00:42:21,930 --> 00:42:27,540 So this thing plays out and he's taking his knee and he gets he 664 00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:30,690 gets his job back to play football, and he's still taking 665 00:42:30,690 --> 00:42:33,870 the knee for the 40 Niners in the same season that he 666 00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:38,790 originally started taking the knee. But even Colin Kaepernick 667 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:45,390 is certain things that no black person could ever say. And he 668 00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:48,960 touched a third rail of Blackstone of not voting. 669 00:42:49,140 --> 00:42:52,290 At this point. I'm sure Colin kapernick is used to receiving 670 00:42:52,290 --> 00:42:55,140 backlash, but after letting it be known that he had no 671 00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:58,500 intentions of voting, many of his supporters jumped off the 672 00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:01,470 bandwagon. So young cat felt compelled to explain his 673 00:43:01,470 --> 00:43:05,310 position, the conference call with members of the press, I've 674 00:43:05,310 --> 00:43:08,250 been very disconnected from the systematic oppression as a whole 675 00:43:08,250 --> 00:43:11,610 Kaepernick said. So for me, it's another face that's going to be 676 00:43:11,610 --> 00:43:14,850 the face of that system of oppression. And to me, it didn't 677 00:43:14,850 --> 00:43:18,150 really matter who went in there, the system remains intact that 678 00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:21,300 oppresses people of color. Nevermind that University of 679 00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:24,630 Alabama football coach Nick Saban admitted he wasn't even 680 00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:27,600 aware that there was an election, the media, and namely 681 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,500 Stephen A Smith sounded off on Kaepernick for not voting as if 682 00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:34,470 not voting against the money he's donated, and programs that 683 00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:37,290 he's implemented since this protest became public. 684 00:43:37,710 --> 00:43:40,740 Now, did he announce this? Or how did this come to light that 685 00:43:40,740 --> 00:43:41,370 he was not 686 00:43:41,370 --> 00:43:45,810 voting? I think it was one of those TMZ kind of things where 687 00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:49,020 they like on the street and they put a mic in your face asked you 688 00:43:49,020 --> 00:43:51,570 about the election. And he was like, Yeah, I'm not voting 689 00:43:51,570 --> 00:43:54,840 because both of them are bad commie. This did. very 690 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,910 simplified what he what his statement was, 691 00:43:56,940 --> 00:43:59,040 why is this? Why is this the third rail? 692 00:44:01,170 --> 00:44:08,820 Because if you're black, you got to vote. Gotcha. Even just just 693 00:44:08,850 --> 00:44:15,000 for some context, I get feedback now, for my stance on this show. 694 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,130 Like how dare you tell people not to vote? You know? Well, 695 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:25,440 I'll give you example, what it sounds like. ESPN, ESPN host 696 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,490 slams Colin Kaepernick. 697 00:44:26,580 --> 00:44:29,460 I appreciated what you said about Colin Kaepernick as 698 00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:32,670 someone who's 54 registered to vote when I turned 18. I've 699 00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:36,690 never in my life missed voting in an election. Have I expand on 700 00:44:36,690 --> 00:44:39,300 what you had to expand on what you had to say about him? 701 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,780 Well, listen, the fact is he had every right to protest and when 702 00:44:42,780 --> 00:44:46,320 he was talking about racial and justices and things of that 703 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,990 nature, you certainly can understand where he was coming 704 00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:52,410 from. It was a quiet protest. He didn't impede anybody's ability 705 00:44:52,410 --> 00:44:55,110 to watch the game to come to the games or anything like that. 706 00:44:55,110 --> 00:44:58,170 Which is why I went on Good Morning America for my show. 707 00:44:58,170 --> 00:45:01,800 First take on ESPN, too. Every weekday from 10am to 12, noon 708 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,700 and other outlets to support him. However, the second that he 709 00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:09,510 decided that he was not going to vote and didn't to publicly 710 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,530 reveal that he wasn't voting, I thought it was egregious to the 711 00:45:13,530 --> 00:45:16,770 highest order. I thought it compromised everything that he 712 00:45:16,770 --> 00:45:19,320 was standing for. And more importantly, I thought it was a 713 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,520 disrespect to our ancestors to people who have bled and fought 714 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,270 and died for him to have the right to do that. And then also 715 00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:29,820 take into account the fact that we have a president who was 716 00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:34,590 outgoing in Barack Obama who captured 93% of the black vote 717 00:45:34,590 --> 00:45:37,830 who obviously black folks come out and support. He went before 718 00:45:37,830 --> 00:45:41,400 the Congressional Black Caucus and went campaigning for on 719 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,520 behalf of Hillary Clinton, basically imploring our 720 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,600 community to activate itself in this election if you had any 721 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,730 respect whatsoever for his legacy. 722 00:45:51,090 --> 00:45:53,940 I need a bell just I'm just around me all the time. Just 723 00:45:53,940 --> 00:45:56,490 when I hear the word activate. I got it. I got to ring the bell 724 00:45:56,490 --> 00:46:00,330 to Yes. Okay. So he was not on board with the program. He 725 00:46:00,330 --> 00:46:02,340 didn't want to activate for Hillary. 726 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,100 And that's where he got canceled. 727 00:46:06,540 --> 00:46:09,120 And what was he What was his reasons behind this? 728 00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:17,610 Because he understood his fan base. He's very conscious or 729 00:46:17,610 --> 00:46:20,010 what I'm not gonna say he because I don't think he was 730 00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:20,580 very. 731 00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:24,870 I'll say, He doesn't look that smart. 732 00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:31,920 I don't think I'm smart. I'll say this. Because the reason why 733 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,430 I wouldn't say smart because he was a 4.0. Student. Oh, okay. 734 00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:35,580 I'll 735 00:46:35,580 --> 00:46:36,420 take that back. 736 00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:41,130 I don't think he's that aware. And there's very, a lot of 737 00:46:41,130 --> 00:46:45,270 reasons for that being a biracial person that was raised 738 00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:49,500 by a total white family grown up in a total white community. He's 739 00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:58,410 not as aware of race. As a, quote unquote, typical 740 00:46:58,410 --> 00:47:01,530 black horse, he didn't have the same upbringing, where it is 741 00:47:01,530 --> 00:47:05,430 where the you're gonna vote was hammered into you. So it's 742 00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:09,750 right. Yeah. Okay, so when he says these things, but I think 743 00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:13,980 him not voting was very calculated, because if you link 744 00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:18,300 him as it loosely, is to Black Lives Matter, that was a large 745 00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:20,520 portion of his, because you got to look at these things. They 746 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:25,080 were running concurrent, at the same time, Black Lives Matter. 747 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,550 2016 They were on a meteoric rise. So it was Kaepernick, and 748 00:47:29,550 --> 00:47:33,300 they kind of merge together, they converged, right, they 749 00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:37,110 converged. And for him, and you know, black lives matter was 750 00:47:37,110 --> 00:47:43,650 very anti establishment, anti Hillary Clinton. So for him to 751 00:47:43,650 --> 00:47:47,070 come out and say, yeah, and be used as a tool for Hillary 752 00:47:47,070 --> 00:47:51,180 Clinton, then that would damage his brand. And this is all about 753 00:47:51,180 --> 00:47:56,490 brand here. Yes. Okay. So it was a very calculated, I think, 754 00:47:56,490 --> 00:48:01,050 wisely calculate, I mean, a lot of his moves. That look stupid, 755 00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:04,050 you have to understand they look stupid, because you're thinking 756 00:48:04,050 --> 00:48:07,230 about, not you, but people are thinking about him in terms of 757 00:48:07,230 --> 00:48:11,670 him getting back into the NFL, right? No, he's thinking, I'm 758 00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:15,570 gonna build this brand. Because I wasn't that good of a football 759 00:48:15,570 --> 00:48:21,030 player. Last time I played. Even if I get back in NFL, I'll be 760 00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:25,170 mediocre at best. Now, he will be better than half of the guys 761 00:48:25,170 --> 00:48:28,530 that are either starting quarterback or backup 762 00:48:28,530 --> 00:48:30,690 quarterbacks. I'll give him that credit. And I think that's the 763 00:48:30,690 --> 00:48:33,870 very disingenuous argument when people say, Oh, he wasn't good 764 00:48:33,870 --> 00:48:37,020 enough to play. No, it's a lot of trash quarterbacks in the NFL 765 00:48:37,020 --> 00:48:39,180 right now. Well, so you gotta, you gotta have 766 00:48:39,180 --> 00:48:45,180 a certain amount of, well, it could be wokeness or I mean, 767 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:49,020 awareness for sure. If you know, okay, wait a minute. I I'm not 768 00:48:49,020 --> 00:48:51,570 that. I mean, he he made a career choice. I'm not that 769 00:48:51,570 --> 00:48:57,690 great a player. And, you know, I've got a brand. And I think a 770 00:48:57,690 --> 00:49:00,270 lot of things happened, you know, the hair change will I'm 771 00:49:00,270 --> 00:49:03,240 sure we'll get to that or maybe not, but the hair change was a 772 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:06,540 significant that's that was a true branding move. 773 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,340 And that was immediate. I mean, because when he was start 774 00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:14,730 process, right away, had that big afro, so he had to Afro he 775 00:49:14,730 --> 00:49:16,530 was ready. He was ready for casting. 776 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,580 Okay, now you're right, you're right. You're right. So that the 777 00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:23,640 decision had already been made. And then of course, he's in his 778 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,520 mind. He's already thinking, Okay, I don't win if I, if I 779 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,480 come out publicly for Trump, because no one does. And I don't 780 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,700 win if I come out publicly for Clinton because of the Black 781 00:49:35,730 --> 00:49:39,480 Lives Matter. Convergent convergence with what he was 782 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,980 doing. Okay, got it. I'm there. 783 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:48,660 So, you asked the question about his handler ship. Oh, it started 784 00:49:48,660 --> 00:49:52,410 off in my opinion. It started off with Mr. Harry Edwards. But 785 00:49:52,410 --> 00:49:58,110 there was a transition. Because, and this is quoting from on May 786 00:49:58,110 --> 00:50:04,050 11 articles for you ESPN 17 Mr. Harry Edwards made a statement 787 00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:07,110 it three teams have inquired about Colin Kaepernick advisor 788 00:50:07,110 --> 00:50:10,530 says and it goes on he goes on to talk about the teams that 789 00:50:10,530 --> 00:50:14,490 were interested in Colin Kaepernick. Right. But 790 00:50:14,490 --> 00:50:24,600 immediately after that, I'm nessa Diem refused to claim. So 791 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:31,680 this is where the handler his handlers made a transition from 792 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:37,710 it being Mr. Harry Edwards. being handed over to miss this 793 00:50:37,710 --> 00:50:38,220 idea 794 00:50:38,970 --> 00:50:41,970 of IQ many fans want to know How close were the ravens to signing 795 00:50:41,970 --> 00:50:44,820 Colin Kaepernick Ray Lewis says they were about to close this 796 00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:47,520 deal, but one tweet changed it all. 797 00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:52,740 A 24 in the am Baltimore Ravens get making 798 00:50:52,740 --> 00:50:56,490 headlines yet again. The whole Colin Kaepernick mess Colin 799 00:50:56,490 --> 00:50:59,490 Kaepernick and Ray Lewis are at center stage with Luis shedding 800 00:50:59,490 --> 00:51:02,460 light on why the Ravens backed away from the controversial 801 00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:03,210 quarterback. 802 00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:06,090 Nobody had this kid a job in the National Football League. I can 803 00:51:06,090 --> 00:51:07,680 raise my hand and say I did once a 804 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,890 star for the 40 Niners poor play in a protest at the National 805 00:51:10,890 --> 00:51:14,220 Anthem quite a moment here in San Francisco has kapernick 806 00:51:14,220 --> 00:51:15,570 looking for a new job. 807 00:51:15,660 --> 00:51:18,090 I'm gonna continue to stand with the people that are being 808 00:51:18,090 --> 00:51:19,410 oppressed when Joe Flacco 809 00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:22,050 was first injured. The Ravens expressed interest in Kaepernick 810 00:51:22,050 --> 00:51:24,930 but never signed him. Shortly after Kaepernick girlfriend 811 00:51:24,930 --> 00:51:28,410 slammed owner Steve Ashanti and Ray Lewis posting a tweet that 812 00:51:28,410 --> 00:51:31,710 mirrors the movie picture of a house sleeve hugging his racist 813 00:51:31,710 --> 00:51:32,850 master. The only 814 00:51:32,850 --> 00:51:38,280 thing that went bad was that image where she tried to make us 815 00:51:38,310 --> 00:51:39,840 a racist, Louis on 816 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,470 show times inside the NFL, we were going to close the deal to 817 00:51:43,470 --> 00:51:43,860 sign 818 00:51:43,860 --> 00:51:46,680 him to sign them all we wanted to hear was hear Colin 819 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,610 Kaepernick speech then his girl goes out and puts out this 820 00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:55,710 racist gesture she doesn't know we're in the back office about 821 00:51:55,950 --> 00:51:58,230 for about to try to get this guy to sign. 822 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:05,190 Yeah, but maybe she didn't know I guess. Yeah, perfect timing. 823 00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:12,630 Why? If your goal is to get back into the NFL, why would your 824 00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:19,830 girlfriend aka your handler, tweet out a picture of she had 825 00:52:19,860 --> 00:52:22,650 on one side she had the owners of the Baltimore Ravens being 826 00:52:22,650 --> 00:52:29,940 held by Ray Lewis, the legendary iconic linebacker from the 827 00:52:29,970 --> 00:52:33,300 Baltimore Ravens on one side, and then she had a picture of 828 00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:41,430 Django Unchained with the quote unquote, Uncle Tom house slave 829 00:52:41,610 --> 00:52:45,390 hugging the white flight owner. Yeah, why would you do that? If 830 00:52:45,390 --> 00:52:47,130 your goal is to get back in the NFL? 831 00:52:49,140 --> 00:52:53,010 This Yeah, that doesn't seem like that's your goal, if? Well, 832 00:52:53,010 --> 00:52:56,490 of course, he didn't do it. But she did it. And then of course, 833 00:52:56,490 --> 00:52:59,970 he immediately broke up with her and publicly said she was a 834 00:52:59,970 --> 00:53:01,110 horrible person, right? 835 00:53:01,770 --> 00:53:08,040 Not at all. And just as a side note, Baltimore Ravens have 836 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:14,820 taken a black quarterback. Oh, I'm drawing blanks today. They 837 00:53:14,820 --> 00:53:17,340 have a currently have a black quarterback that they drafted. 838 00:53:17,580 --> 00:53:21,540 And he's been very successful in their system. So much so that 839 00:53:21,540 --> 00:53:28,050 he's being in the running for MVP talk. So Colin Kaepernick 840 00:53:28,050 --> 00:53:32,100 could have played that he had the same skill set. Lamar, Lamar 841 00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:36,060 Jackson had to come back to me. He had the same skill set as 842 00:53:36,060 --> 00:53:39,690 Lamar Jackson. And he could have had the same level of success 843 00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:43,920 because they built a system around his skills of running the 844 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,640 football, you know, and we're not get too much in sports, but 845 00:53:47,730 --> 00:53:50,610 he could have had the same he could ask them or success, but I 846 00:53:50,610 --> 00:53:54,450 don't think that's what was that's not what is wanted for 847 00:53:54,450 --> 00:53:59,430 Colin Kaepernick. No, so once again, he once again he becomes 848 00:53:59,430 --> 00:54:05,070 toxic. He overcame the voting thing. nflt looking at him 849 00:54:05,070 --> 00:54:07,050 again. No, it was it. 850 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,110 Was there any more conversation with his girlfriend where she 851 00:54:10,110 --> 00:54:13,470 interviewed? Did she give any any decent explanation of what 852 00:54:13,470 --> 00:54:18,360 she was thinking? Not at all. Okay, so this so this that's odd 853 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,750 to there was no TMZ interview. Why did you ruin your 854 00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:22,860 boyfriend's career? 855 00:54:22,890 --> 00:54:28,740 None of that. None of that. Okay. So now Mr. Colin 856 00:54:28,740 --> 00:54:35,940 Kaepernick is completely toxic. The kneeling thing had died 857 00:54:35,940 --> 00:54:40,380 down. But then enter Mr. Donald Trump. 858 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,140 It was a remarkable show of solidarity and defiance aimed 859 00:54:46,170 --> 00:54:54,060 directly at Donald Trump. Stadium after stadium anthem 860 00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:58,500 after anthem National Football League players on one knee 861 00:54:59,580 --> 00:55:04,530 others With raised fists or locked arms sometimes along with 862 00:55:04,530 --> 00:55:08,730 team owners, some teams staying in their locker rooms for the 863 00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:13,140 anthem, some anthem singers themselves joining the protests. 864 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,880 All of it a response to Trump's comments Friday about players 865 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,570 who protest this way who in Trump's view, disrespect the US 866 00:55:21,570 --> 00:55:26,010 flag, get that son of a bitch off the field right now out he's 867 00:55:26,010 --> 00:55:30,840 fired. Trump and his supporters frame it as unpatriotic. But the 868 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,770 protests are aimed at highlighting racial inequality 869 00:55:34,770 --> 00:55:38,760 in the US. That's why former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick 870 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:44,010 began it last year, a move say some that cost him his career as 871 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:50,160 no team hired Kaepernick this season. But Trump's comments and 872 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:54,510 his calls to now boycott the NFL. And the view by many Trump 873 00:55:54,510 --> 00:55:58,860 is sympathetic to racist views. And all of a sudden, 874 00:55:59,279 --> 00:56:08,129 this. Yeah. So Trump use Colin Kaepernick in the NFL for two 875 00:56:08,129 --> 00:56:13,769 reasons. One, I think he was doing the Roy Moore election 876 00:56:13,769 --> 00:56:17,999 when he was in Alabama, was Alabama Mississippi. I forget 877 00:56:18,029 --> 00:56:20,879 not one of the two were pretty sure it's Alabama. It was 878 00:56:20,879 --> 00:56:25,589 Alabama. Right. That's where he made this comment. So he needed 879 00:56:25,649 --> 00:56:31,559 he needed some reflection from that whole debacle that was 880 00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:34,079 going on down there. Because I mean, Roy Moore was the worst 881 00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:37,349 candidate ever. But he had to back him right. Yeah, cuz, you 882 00:56:38,879 --> 00:56:42,239 know, because of the allegations that were made against him about 883 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:47,249 the young girls or whatever. I mean, that was just true or not, 884 00:56:47,279 --> 00:56:50,189 it was just bad optics to have to support a guy like that. 885 00:56:50,189 --> 00:56:53,879 Right. So he needs attention is anything that you think Trump 886 00:56:53,879 --> 00:56:57,839 did for that reason? Well, I'm gonna get to that's one reason 887 00:56:57,839 --> 00:57:02,039 but the second reason he hates the NFL. Trump hates the NFL. 888 00:57:02,579 --> 00:57:05,939 Yes. Let me explain the history to you. Okay, so Mr. 889 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,330 Crawford raft guy is his buddy. 890 00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:14,550 Yeah, crap is his buddy. Jerry Jones from the Cowboys is buddy. 891 00:57:14,790 --> 00:57:20,970 But the NFL. Okay. Trump once had a team in the USFL, which 892 00:57:20,970 --> 00:57:26,880 was a direct competitor of the NFL. And he sued the NFL, ah, 893 00:57:26,910 --> 00:57:32,130 and won a monopoly case. He want he only won $3. 894 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,320 This is like the 90s is this early 90s. I think in the late 895 00:57:37,350 --> 00:57:40,470 80s, early 90s. Somewhere around that period, I was in New York 896 00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:43,020 at the time. So I kind of remember that. And I remember it 897 00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:48,330 was like, and he had a team too. Didn't you put a team together 898 00:57:48,330 --> 00:57:48,690 for his? 899 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:54,750 He had a team. Yeah. And they were they were playing football 900 00:57:54,750 --> 00:57:58,230 in the springtime. But then he moved in direct competition with 901 00:57:58,230 --> 00:58:05,340 the NFL and the fall. Yeah. So that I mean, he won, he won. But 902 00:58:05,340 --> 00:58:12,240 then the other thing was, Mr. Trump tried to buy a team in the 903 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,650 NFL. And the way it works is to get a team in the NFL, even if 904 00:58:16,650 --> 00:58:18,150 you have the money yet to 905 00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:20,730 vote. Do you have to be invited? Yeah, you gotta it's 906 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,470 yeah, it's, it's the billionaire boys club is what it is, right. 907 00:58:25,950 --> 00:58:28,350 It's like my fantasy league. You know. I mean, that's what it is 908 00:58:28,350 --> 00:58:31,320 for billionaires. I mean, they have their teams. Most of them 909 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,920 make money elsewhere, and it's just their passion. So they're 910 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,190 like, we're not letting this guy trumping, you know, so that 911 00:58:38,190 --> 00:58:43,080 really galled Trump like, Oh, okay. You don't want to sell me 912 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:47,460 a team because he tried to buy the Buffalo Bills. So just to 913 00:58:47,730 --> 00:58:52,530 back up my claims. We have Jaguars owner, con speaking on 914 00:58:52,530 --> 00:58:52,860 Trump. 915 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,280 President Trump hasn't been shy about voicing his displeasure 916 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,820 with the NFL and one owner says the President's attacks on the 917 00:58:59,820 --> 00:59:04,230 league are personal. Jaguars owner Shahrukh Khan told USA 918 00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:06,840 Today that the President's assault against the NFL is 919 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,040 quote, about money or messing with trying to soil a league or 920 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,060 brand that he's jealous of. The President has railed on the NFL 921 00:59:15,060 --> 00:59:17,640 on social media for its handling of the national anthem 922 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,240 controversy. And though most owners were hesitant to comment 923 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,550 on the President, as they wrapped up league meetings in 924 00:59:23,550 --> 00:59:27,840 New York, con was very candid. Trump was unsuccessful in 925 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,200 attempting to purchase the Buffalo Bills back in 2014. And 926 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,410 Cohn reportedly thinks that could be a motivating factor 927 00:59:34,410 --> 00:59:37,170 saying he's been elected president where maybe a great 928 00:59:37,170 --> 00:59:41,370 goalie had in life to own an NFL team is not very likely. So to 929 00:59:41,370 --> 00:59:44,790 make it tougher or to hurt the league. It's very calculated. 930 00:59:45,660 --> 00:59:48,990 Ah, well, Trump is definitely someone who's on record saying 931 00:59:48,990 --> 00:59:51,090 is he believes in retaliation. So 932 00:59:52,170 --> 00:59:55,710 yeah, and just to give this guy icon and credibility and his 933 00:59:55,710 --> 01:00:02,250 claim he's donated to Trump's election. I lecture fun. So it's 934 01:00:02,250 --> 01:00:04,530 weird. It's weird. It's this weird thing going on between 935 01:00:04,530 --> 01:00:07,980 these billionaires. I mean, they I mean, they're very petty 936 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,040 in certain ways. Yes, they are. 937 01:00:11,580 --> 01:00:17,310 Sold NFL, this is what called the second wave. And a huge buy. 938 01:00:17,310 --> 01:00:21,420 As I said in the previous clips in the one we just played. It 939 01:00:21,420 --> 01:00:25,710 was league wide protests. All the guys were taking a knee. 940 01:00:26,460 --> 01:00:30,180 Some guys were raising the face. Players was walking on a 941 01:00:30,180 --> 01:00:34,710 practice, staying in the locker room even, ya know, talking 942 01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:37,440 about doing practice. They wouldn't even they wouldn't even 943 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:43,050 practice. So the NFL owners had to take action. And what they 944 01:00:43,050 --> 01:00:47,220 did was they put together this fund, I'll think of like $88 945 01:00:47,250 --> 01:00:51,450 million to donate towards minority causes 946 01:00:51,570 --> 01:00:55,980 minority minority minority causes non black lives matter 947 01:00:55,980 --> 01:00:57,510 but minority causes. Okay, 948 01:00:57,630 --> 01:01:04,200 yeah. So that kind of smooth things over. But it caused a 949 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:10,530 rift between Colin Kaepernick and NFL players. Now I want to 950 01:01:10,530 --> 01:01:14,910 introduce a another reading, do an eclipse because they're not 951 01:01:14,910 --> 01:01:18,540 mean Eclipse to have on him. But one thing called a kappa is 952 01:01:18,540 --> 01:01:23,580 known not to do is talk. Nobody heard here hears him talk. All 953 01:01:23,580 --> 01:01:29,550 he does is tweet. But he has his attack dog. Eric Reid, Eric re 954 01:01:29,550 --> 01:01:32,460 was a guy to play with him in San Francisco and took a knee 955 01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:37,230 with him when he was taking his knee every time. Around Colin 956 01:01:37,230 --> 01:01:39,960 Kaepernick has beef with somebody else it really 957 01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:45,540 addresses it either verbally or even attempting to physically 958 01:01:45,540 --> 01:01:49,050 approach people. So we have Steven a speech Smith speaking 959 01:01:49,050 --> 01:01:51,150 on Erie versus Malcolm Jenkins, 960 01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:55,350 let's get into the particulars, for example, the $89 million. 961 01:01:56,130 --> 01:02:01,560 Did y'all know that part of the agreement is that the owners 962 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,070 will match whatever the players contribute up to a quarter of a 963 01:02:05,070 --> 01:02:09,000 million dollars annually to certain causes pertaining to the 964 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,150 African American community, the kind of issues that Colin 965 01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:14,910 Kaepernick and others were talking about addressing. We 966 01:02:14,910 --> 01:02:18,540 know this, if you don't know it, you know it now. Number two, the 967 01:02:18,540 --> 01:02:23,040 NFL, Colin Kaepernick himself, Eric Reid himself, they would 968 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,740 never protesting against the National Football League and its 969 01:02:25,740 --> 01:02:29,490 owners. They were protesting against society in terms of 970 01:02:29,490 --> 01:02:33,300 wanting to bring attention to racial oppression, racial 971 01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:37,410 inequality and other things pertaining to disenfranchised 972 01:02:37,410 --> 01:02:39,600 communities throughout our nation. They were not 973 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,760 complaining against the National Football League. 974 01:02:42,270 --> 01:02:45,300 Yeah, and here I come. I'm a television network. And I say, 975 01:02:45,300 --> 01:02:51,660 Hey, we got a little problem. You know, we're getting this in 976 01:02:51,660 --> 01:02:54,990 a lot of flack about our telecast. And it's too 977 01:02:54,990 --> 01:02:57,840 controversial in the military, you know, they don't want to buy 978 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,750 as many ads around the program because, you know, the kind of 979 01:03:00,750 --> 01:03:06,750 ruining our flyover. So, this had to end. 980 01:03:07,650 --> 01:03:13,170 So, just as people know, who Malcolm Jenkins, Jenkins is, 981 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,950 Malcolm Jenkins was the guy that came in and say, you know, what, 982 01:03:16,950 --> 01:03:21,480 he was the face of the Players Association, to say, you know, 983 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,440 what, we can monetize this thing for charities? Right. You know, 984 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,770 right. They basically they hijack Colin kapernick movement, 985 01:03:30,420 --> 01:03:33,360 which is what player associations do very well, by 986 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:33,780 the way. 987 01:03:34,380 --> 01:03:37,530 Well, I mean, that's what people do all the time. If you if you 988 01:03:37,530 --> 01:03:39,570 just want to complain about something and don't want to 989 01:03:39,570 --> 01:03:42,780 monetize it. There's somebody out there saying we can monetize 990 01:03:42,780 --> 01:03:46,830 this thing. And that's what they did. And NFL owners found them 991 01:03:46,830 --> 01:03:50,940 favorable to work with, because they were in being just 992 01:03:51,660 --> 01:03:57,630 anarchist. So they came to this agreement at $9 million, as I 993 01:03:57,630 --> 01:04:00,570 said in the clip, and that caused, like I said, a rift 994 01:04:00,570 --> 01:04:04,680 between the Colin kapernick faction, which included Eric 995 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:09,690 Reid against Malcolm Jenkins and the Players Association, and we 996 01:04:09,690 --> 01:04:12,270 will he'll steam a speaking more about it in part two. 997 01:04:12,780 --> 01:04:16,350 Number three, when you talk about Malcolm Jenkins and the 998 01:04:16,350 --> 01:04:19,440 players coalition, they're saying their priority wasn't 999 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:23,370 Colin Kaepernick their priority were the issues. We even have 1000 01:04:23,370 --> 01:04:27,360 Josh Norman quoted on the record, beefing with Eric Reid 1001 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,750 over a conference call written by an article in our very own, 1002 01:04:30,870 --> 01:04:34,020 the undefeated, where he was saying to Eric Reid, let's just 1003 01:04:34,020 --> 01:04:37,740 be real about what's going on here with Colin Kaepernick to 1004 01:04:37,740 --> 01:04:40,920 speak up for himself and oh, by the way, this is bigger than 1005 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,830 just one man, we understand that what's happening to Colin 1006 01:04:43,830 --> 01:04:48,030 Kaepernick is wrong, but this issue is bigger than him and if 1007 01:04:48,030 --> 01:04:50,670 we're about uplifting and helping our communities that 1008 01:04:50,670 --> 01:04:51,540 takes precedent. 1009 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,800 So once again, Colin Kaepernick thought his cell phone outside, 1010 01:04:59,370 --> 01:05:04,860 just kicked out. You see his tree in here of this? Well, 1011 01:05:04,890 --> 01:05:07,650 getting close to come back to the NFL and then something 1012 01:05:07,650 --> 01:05:10,950 happens and, you know, it's just this bob and weave thing. 1013 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,370 It seems like if I looked at it from a handler perspective, it's 1014 01:05:14,370 --> 01:05:17,040 like, you know, kid, let him get close controversy, pull them 1015 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,710 back, and we're gonna go over there, let him get close 1016 01:05:19,710 --> 01:05:22,080 controversy and pull him back. That's kind of what it feels 1017 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:22,470 like. 1018 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:28,410 That's exactly what seems like to me as well. So the insteps 1019 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:29,340 Nike, 1020 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,940 Nike is defending its controversial new ad campaign 1021 01:05:32,940 --> 01:05:36,450 after backlash from President Trump and other critics. In an 1022 01:05:36,450 --> 01:05:39,000 interview the President said Nike is sending a terrible 1023 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,690 message he says By partnering with unsigned NFL quarterback 1024 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,930 Colin Kaepernick, but he added their freedom to do so it was 1025 01:05:45,930 --> 01:05:49,290 what this country is all about. Kaepernick triggered the NFL 1026 01:05:49,290 --> 01:05:53,100 player protests against social injustice back in 2016 by 1027 01:05:53,100 --> 01:05:56,040 kneeling during the national anthem. CBS This Morning 1028 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,760 Saturday co hosts Dana Jacobson joins us at the table. She's 1029 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,920 been following the Nike controversy from the beginning 1030 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,000 Dana morning. Good 1031 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,340 morning, and this is not going away in the season hasn't even 1032 01:06:05,340 --> 01:06:08,850 started yet. an NFL executive at least one has expressed support 1033 01:06:08,850 --> 01:06:12,210 for Kaepernick saying in part the social justice issues that 1034 01:06:12,210 --> 01:06:15,480 Colin and other professional athletes have raised deserve our 1035 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,500 attention and action. But Nikes decision is also fanning the 1036 01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:24,570 flames on social media. Nikes controversial endorsement of 1037 01:06:24,570 --> 01:06:28,320 Colin Kaepernick is reigniting the debate over NFL players 1038 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,300 taking a knee during the national anthem. 1039 01:06:31,020 --> 01:06:37,200 All right. So Nike comes in they make him part of the JUST DO IT 1040 01:06:37,260 --> 01:06:38,250 campaign. 1041 01:06:38,310 --> 01:06:40,290 What was the size of his deal at the time? Do 1042 01:06:40,290 --> 01:06:43,230 you know it was it was undisclosed how much he made? 1043 01:06:43,230 --> 01:06:48,060 But it was in the millions? I'm sure no doubt. But one little 1044 01:06:48,060 --> 01:06:53,190 caveat is have you ever heard Mr. Mark Geragos? 1045 01:06:53,730 --> 01:06:58,470 Yes, lawyer in Los Angeles. He's a very famous lawyer. 1046 01:06:59,190 --> 01:07:04,410 Yes, he was Mark Geragos was Colin Kaepernick attorney. But 1047 01:07:05,070 --> 01:07:08,640 he's also tied in with something to do with Nike as well. 1048 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,690 Business Insider reporting lawyer Michael Avenatti was 1049 01:07:12,690 --> 01:07:15,210 arrested and charged with attempting to extort $20 million 1050 01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:19,230 from sportswear brands Nike on Monday have a notice basis for 1051 01:07:19,230 --> 01:07:21,600 the alleged extortion attempt was that he had information 1052 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:25,110 related to the NCAA basketball scandal that will put Nike in a 1053 01:07:25,110 --> 01:07:28,770 negative light. The attorney for adult film star stormy Daniels 1054 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,070 allegedly tried to force Nike to pay up by threatening to harm 1055 01:07:32,070 --> 01:07:35,640 the company if his demands were not met. Later Monday, Nike 1056 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,070 responded by saying that it was complying with federal 1057 01:07:38,070 --> 01:07:41,760 investigations in NCAA basketball, and will not be 1058 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,180 extorted. Celebrity attorney Mark Geragos was named a co 1059 01:07:45,180 --> 01:07:48,450 conspirator in the Avanade case, which was filed in the Southern 1060 01:07:48,450 --> 01:07:49,710 District of New York. 1061 01:07:49,890 --> 01:07:52,380 Yeah, I remember this and I remember making a deal about it 1062 01:07:52,380 --> 01:07:56,670 on no agenda. And I got a number of emails from from people, my 1063 01:07:56,670 --> 01:08:01,890 friends who said oh man, Gallegos is an ok guy. So you 1064 01:08:01,890 --> 01:08:06,060 know, they weren't sure what was up with the with Avenatti. And 1065 01:08:06,060 --> 01:08:10,200 what how that fit together, but they were definitely I mean, I 1066 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,510 think he's also Adam Carolla is lawyer. 1067 01:08:13,650 --> 01:08:16,830 Speaking on the weird love triangle that's going on there 1068 01:08:16,830 --> 01:08:21,300 between Abinadi Nike and gara goes where gara goes and Abinadi 1069 01:08:21,300 --> 01:08:26,010 were partners with a Abinadi he's trying to extort Nike. And 1070 01:08:26,010 --> 01:08:29,610 then you got Colin Kaepernick working for Nike, and he's 1071 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,180 Gehrig's Disease lawyer. So it's just wait, it's just well, it 1072 01:08:33,180 --> 01:08:36,450 has nothing to add to the story, but it was just a weird little 1073 01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:39,480 No, it does it because I think that's it's a tactic because 1074 01:08:39,480 --> 01:08:42,510 it's probably a Gary goes tactic. It's like, alright, 1075 01:08:42,540 --> 01:08:44,640 well, we're gonna mess with you over here because we need 1076 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,240 something for you for our for for cap. And we're gonna make 1077 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,210 some trouble over here. And by the way, I never heard a follow 1078 01:08:51,210 --> 01:08:53,940 up. It sounds totally plausible that Nike was, you know, the 1079 01:08:53,940 --> 01:08:58,380 Nikes. scandalously giving money to high school kids totally 1080 01:08:58,380 --> 01:09:01,920 believable. And I remember they came out and I think they 1081 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,950 countersued and I don't know what happened to so and that's 1082 01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:08,940 also odd. So why didn't they vigorously defend that make a 1083 01:09:08,940 --> 01:09:12,360 big? Was there a lawsuit? Was there a court ruling? It kind of 1084 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,180 fizzled away. So it sounds like shenanigans. 1085 01:09:15,900 --> 01:09:19,050 Yeah, so I just add that in there. It doesn't have any any 1086 01:09:20,310 --> 01:09:25,770 value to the timeline. It was just a weird little factoid. 1087 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,770 Do you have another question? What the hell station did you 1088 01:09:28,770 --> 01:09:31,500 get that clip from where there's some British woman talking about 1089 01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:31,740 our 1090 01:09:31,739 --> 01:09:37,709 sport? That's the only place I could find anything on that 1091 01:09:37,709 --> 01:09:41,789 subject. Okay. All over the web. I mean, you know, I 1092 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,500 see our future researchers. Yeah, you're researching. You 1093 01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:47,190 are so 1094 01:09:47,190 --> 01:09:51,090 just to give the audio backing or background I need it. That's 1095 01:09:51,090 --> 01:09:58,020 That's why I found it. So that's one lawsuit. I mean, but so now 1096 01:09:58,050 --> 01:10:00,930 Colin Kaepernick he ends up selling one With the NFL, 1097 01:10:01,110 --> 01:10:03,330 a surprise development happened just as we were walking into 1098 01:10:03,330 --> 01:10:06,990 studio. Former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick has settled his 1099 01:10:07,260 --> 01:10:09,750 lawsuit with the National Football League Kaepernick sued 1100 01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:13,290 the league last year, claiming 32 teams colluded to keep him 1101 01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:17,580 off the NFL roster because he was taking a knee during the 1102 01:10:17,580 --> 01:10:20,700 national anthem. Now, we don't know many details about the 1103 01:10:20,700 --> 01:10:23,730 settlement. But Kaepernick had previously signaled that only a 1104 01:10:23,730 --> 01:10:26,760 lucrative financial payout will convince him to drop the suit. 1105 01:10:26,910 --> 01:10:29,190 What does this mean? And what does it mean for Kaepernick 1106 01:10:29,190 --> 01:10:31,650 future he's 31 years old, you would have to think he could 1107 01:10:31,650 --> 01:10:34,650 still play if he wants. Fox News contributor she used to be at 1108 01:10:34,650 --> 01:10:37,920 ESPN where she thrived there. Britt McHenry with a rich sports 1109 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,950 background Britt Michael Freeman a respected NFL reporters 1110 01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:45,090 reporting get this that he's getting $60 million. What does 1111 01:10:45,090 --> 01:10:45,870 that tell you? 1112 01:10:46,650 --> 01:10:50,340 It tells me Brian that money will make a problem go away or 1113 01:10:50,340 --> 01:10:53,550 it will make a social justice warrior really happy and really 1114 01:10:53,550 --> 01:10:55,740 rich but I have to tell you I did a little reporting on my own 1115 01:10:55,740 --> 01:10:58,560 I reached out to an NFL source of mine and NFL agent who said 1116 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,470 he would be shocked if that was the number 1117 01:11:02,370 --> 01:11:05,400 well it was the number wasn't it was that it was high I thought 1118 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,240 well the Wall Street Journal came back and reported that was 1119 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:13,740 way low. We're talking about his single digit millions. So that 1120 01:11:13,740 --> 01:11:16,710 60 was right after the settlement had like closed 1121 01:11:16,710 --> 01:11:19,980 finalized. So I think that was attacked at this show. The 1122 01:11:20,190 --> 01:11:24,870 cabinet took put the NFL over the barrel kind of thing 1123 01:11:25,470 --> 01:11:30,270 in the law, and the lawsuit was specifically because he was 1124 01:11:30,270 --> 01:11:33,720 colluding because they were teams were colluding not to not 1125 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,130 to not to hire it's 1126 01:11:35,130 --> 01:11:42,300 a black ball and white ball on Mojave spectrum Euro Well, yeah, 1127 01:11:42,330 --> 01:11:44,970 um, yeah, that was what it was. Stop 1128 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:49,560 stop the show. Yes. Do you with your with your other friends? 1129 01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:54,420 Say white balling. Is that a blackballing? No, that's I just 1130 01:11:54,420 --> 01:11:58,440 want to make sure Okay, just checking man that's that's what 1131 01:11:58,440 --> 01:12:00,600 the show is about to I gotta lie. You want to know what's 1132 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:01,470 going on? All right. 1133 01:12:01,980 --> 01:12:05,040 Yeah, so that's the world term for blackballing is 1134 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,510 I'm gonna use that everywhere now. Hey, bro, Stuff White 1135 01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:11,490 balling me. Okay, um, just practice? 1136 01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:17,250 Yeah, so, um, but him settling didn't sit well with a lot of 1137 01:12:17,250 --> 01:12:21,600 people because what they tried to do was tie, Colin Kaepernick 1138 01:12:21,630 --> 01:12:25,140 and with Ali. That was the comparison. You know, a Muhammad 1139 01:12:25,140 --> 01:12:28,920 Ali for those people that don't know, which was a book, bullshit 1140 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:33,300 comparison. Excuse my language. Because Muhammad Ali was the 1141 01:12:33,300 --> 01:12:39,660 best at his sport. Yes. And he refused to be used by the 1142 01:12:39,660 --> 01:12:44,190 military industrial complex, as we saw in previous shows, go 1143 01:12:44,190 --> 01:12:48,630 look at how they use our Joe Lewis. Because he wasn't, they 1144 01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:51,060 weren't, they'll put a gun to Ali's hand and you know, making 1145 01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:52,500 go fight in Vietnam. 1146 01:12:52,530 --> 01:12:54,900 They wanted to do the Elvis trick. You know, I was like, 1147 01:12:54,900 --> 01:12:55,200 Alright. 1148 01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:59,640 Yeah. We'll call the USO I believe are you where you go 1149 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,460 around? And you know, do some exhibitions? I mean, they use 1150 01:13:02,460 --> 01:13:06,000 Joe Lewis Zack, same way in World War Two. Yeah. But I'll he 1151 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,450 was like, No, I'm not going to do it. Now for for religious 1152 01:13:09,450 --> 01:13:12,300 reasons. That was his whole purpose. He said, I'm a minister 1153 01:13:12,300 --> 01:13:16,530 for the Nation of Islam. I'm not going to fight your war. And he 1154 01:13:16,530 --> 01:13:20,340 sat down for three years. He didn't settle. You know, he took 1155 01:13:20,340 --> 01:13:22,740 you notice that he spoke about the whole thing. So Colin 1156 01:13:22,740 --> 01:13:28,200 Kaepernick settling really hurt his case. And Steven a Smith 1157 01:13:28,980 --> 01:13:30,750 took issue with it. Well, 1158 01:13:30,780 --> 01:13:33,600 here's where the problem lies. What did you when Colin 1159 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:37,830 Kaepernick. I want to know the money. I want to know what the 1160 01:13:37,830 --> 01:13:42,390 details of the settlement are. That's what I want to know. You 1161 01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:45,630 don't sit up there and get to get martyred by everybody and 1162 01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:49,410 their grandmother all of these years, over the last two years, 1163 01:13:49,530 --> 01:13:52,470 with everybody making a case about how he's being 1164 01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:56,010 blackballed. He's being ostracized and all of this other 1165 01:13:56,010 --> 01:13:59,670 stuff. You don't get to sit up there and send out tweets. Thank 1166 01:13:59,670 --> 01:14:03,930 you, Jana and other stars who refused to perform at halftime 1167 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:08,670 for the Super Bowl and protest and supportive you because their 1168 01:14:08,670 --> 01:14:11,700 belief was that you had been blackballed, and as a nation of 1169 01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:15,030 folks, particularly from the minority community, that have 1170 01:14:15,030 --> 01:14:18,000 been standing up screaming, hooting and hollering about how 1171 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,510 you have been ostracized, how you have been mistreated, and 1172 01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:24,450 then all of a sudden you quietly reach a settlement and we don't 1173 01:14:24,450 --> 01:14:27,420 know what the hell it entails. That's my problem with all of 1174 01:14:27,420 --> 01:14:27,630 this. 1175 01:14:28,589 --> 01:14:30,749 Everybody wants some a little taste of that money. 1176 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,430 So Colin Kaepernick is on the outs again. 1177 01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:40,050 This is they're doing it very well whoever's running him 1178 01:14:40,050 --> 01:14:41,160 they're doing a good job 1179 01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:45,900 because he's like man you took you took the money you were 1180 01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:49,890 opposed to take the NFL owners to trial you know, expose them, 1181 01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:54,660 you know, for for white balling you. And that was the whole 1182 01:14:54,660 --> 01:14:58,440 purpose but for for his speaking from his backer standpoint of 1183 01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:02,670 view. Oh, This is what they wanted to show, you know, the 1184 01:15:02,670 --> 01:15:06,990 power structure that they can be on Sam, you know, made to kneel 1185 01:15:07,020 --> 01:15:16,770 for me pun intended, right? So here we are, present day, a NFL 1186 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:21,600 so we were gonna go to one of the most official sports 1187 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,210 references there is the real. 1188 01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:27,750 So last night it was announced for the NFL that Colin 1189 01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:30,690 Kaepernick was invited to a private workout in Atlanta this 1190 01:15:30,690 --> 01:15:34,590 Saturday, which means that this free agent man might have the 1191 01:15:34,590 --> 01:15:41,250 chance to play on the NFL team again. We all know if you did 1192 01:15:41,250 --> 01:15:44,130 it, but he stirred up some controversy in 2016 when he took 1193 01:15:44,130 --> 01:15:46,920 a knee to protest police brutality. So I want to know how 1194 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,640 you guys feel about this chance of Colin being back on the NFL. 1195 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:04,230 I think that what Colin kneeling for were still working on to try 1196 01:16:04,230 --> 01:16:07,740 to improve police brutality, but he brought attention to it 1197 01:16:08,580 --> 01:16:13,740 sacrificed a lot. And I just want to remind people that Colin 1198 01:16:13,770 --> 01:16:17,280 opted out of his contract in 2017. He was not fired. He opted 1199 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,660 out to try to get more money. And then what happened was with 1200 01:16:21,660 --> 01:16:24,720 all the kneeling and everything, there was some controversy about 1201 01:16:24,750 --> 01:16:28,110 bringing him back. They had a settlement because there was a 1202 01:16:28,110 --> 01:16:33,360 lawsuit about a collusion to keep him out. They settled it. 1203 01:16:33,420 --> 01:16:38,250 It was confidential, the you know, what have ya so we don't 1204 01:16:38,250 --> 01:16:41,190 know actually what was the requirements, but then it just 1205 01:16:41,190 --> 01:16:42,660 seems like he was still getting 1206 01:16:43,260 --> 01:16:47,310 blackballed. Amen. Did the ladies have the real just alter 1207 01:16:47,310 --> 01:16:48,180 history there? 1208 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,560 No, they laid it out perfectly like it was and that's why 1209 01:16:52,710 --> 01:16:56,970 that's why I use that clip. What did you find? As altered, 1210 01:16:57,630 --> 01:17:00,960 that he that he opted out of his contract in 2017. Maybe I 1211 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:01,860 misunderstood. 1212 01:17:02,490 --> 01:17:05,820 That's very factual. He had one more year left with the San 1213 01:17:05,820 --> 01:17:09,690 Francisco 40, Niners and he opted out of that final year. 1214 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:10,290 Okay. 1215 01:17:11,310 --> 01:17:15,780 Well, first of all, I now I'm happy that I know that I can 1216 01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:18,870 brush up on my football by watching the ladies of the real 1217 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,550 happy about that. I like that. Okay, 1218 01:17:23,580 --> 01:17:28,200 so the, the the reason why I use this clip is to ask you the 1219 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,620 other question you had about his celebrity. Now, do you see how 1220 01:17:31,620 --> 01:17:32,730 big it is? Big, 1221 01:17:32,820 --> 01:17:34,170 big? Yes. Gotcha. 1222 01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:42,270 So now, we're at present time. The skit though? Oh, was it last 1223 01:17:42,270 --> 01:17:48,180 Saturday? This the workout was in you made an astute 1224 01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:53,220 observation that this was a private combine. For Mr. Colin 1225 01:17:53,220 --> 01:17:56,760 Kaepernick. Nobody had ever seen this before one player combine, 1226 01:17:57,060 --> 01:18:00,660 were all at all it was what 25 teams were going to come to see 1227 01:18:00,660 --> 01:18:06,270 him showcase his abilities. But as expected on my part, it 1228 01:18:06,270 --> 01:18:13,680 didn't go off as planned. And it was it ended. And Mr. Colin 1229 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,700 kapernick, coming from out of the shadows, and actually 1230 01:18:17,700 --> 01:18:20,640 getting from the microphones and having a rant. 1231 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,020 Let me start by saying, I appreciate y'all coming out. 1232 01:18:28,020 --> 01:18:30,720 That means a lot to me. Our biggest thing with everything 1233 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,650 today was making sure we had transparency of what went on. We 1234 01:18:34,650 --> 01:18:37,260 weren't getting that elsewhere. So we came out here. It's 1235 01:18:37,260 --> 01:18:40,470 important that you're here. Y'all been attacked for the last 1236 01:18:40,470 --> 01:18:44,340 three years. Y'all continue to be attacked. We appreciate what 1237 01:18:44,340 --> 01:18:48,210 y'all do. We appreciate you being here today. We appreciate 1238 01:18:48,210 --> 01:18:51,060 the work you do for the people and telling the truth. That's 1239 01:18:51,060 --> 01:18:55,140 what we want everything. Be ready for three years. I've been 1240 01:18:55,140 --> 01:18:58,350 denied for three years. We all know why I came out here 1241 01:18:58,350 --> 01:19:00,870 shoulder today in front of everybody. We have nothing to 1242 01:19:00,870 --> 01:19:04,440 hide. So we're waiting for the 32 owners to start the two 1243 01:19:04,440 --> 01:19:08,760 teams, Roger Goodell of them to stop running. Stop running from 1244 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,660 the truth. Stop running from people. Around here. We're ready 1245 01:19:12,660 --> 01:19:16,920 to play. Ready to go anywhere. My agent Jeff Nalley is ready to 1246 01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,840 talk to any team. Interview a team at anytime. A band ready. 1247 01:19:21,930 --> 01:19:25,530 I'm staying ready. Now continue to be ready. And so all the 1248 01:19:25,530 --> 01:19:29,700 people that came out here today to support appreciate y'all. I 1249 01:19:29,700 --> 01:19:33,150 love y'all to the people that aren't here. I'm thinking about 1250 01:19:33,150 --> 01:19:36,420 you. I appreciate your support from where you are. We'll 1251 01:19:36,420 --> 01:19:39,810 continue to give you updates as we're here. We'll be waiting to 1252 01:19:39,810 --> 01:19:44,670 hear from Roger Goodell, the NFL the 32 teams will let you know 1253 01:19:44,670 --> 01:19:47,850 if we hear from them balls in their court. We're ready to go 1254 01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:56,970 so yeah, I saw this and I and I got my interest because I know 1255 01:19:56,970 --> 01:20:00,540 he doesn't talk. And I of course I learned that from you Okay, 1256 01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:06,150 and and I see him there. And I mean, here's what my spidey 1257 01:20:06,150 --> 01:20:10,410 sense, told me one, he's wearing his Nike shirt. Like, okay, 1258 01:20:10,500 --> 01:20:16,380 that's not you know, when, when you're a paid endorsement a 1259 01:20:16,380 --> 01:20:21,000 spokesmodel. You don't put it on for free. And you put it on when 1260 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,190 you're told to put it on and and there's always something 1261 01:20:23,190 --> 01:20:26,490 associated with that. And the second one, he kept saying, We 1262 01:20:26,490 --> 01:20:30,000 ready, we ready, we ready. And to me that felt like a JUST DO 1263 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,030 IT type thing. It felt like a campaign. 1264 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,780 Yeah, the whole this whole thing was a media stunt. I mean, let 1265 01:20:39,780 --> 01:20:44,340 me be clear, because I'm biased. This whole thing was a media 1266 01:20:44,340 --> 01:20:48,330 stunt from both sides. The NFL put this thing on because 1267 01:20:48,330 --> 01:20:50,670 they're having their 100 year anniversary, and they wanted to 1268 01:20:50,670 --> 01:20:54,690 put a nice little bow on this whole Colin Kaepernick thing and 1269 01:20:54,690 --> 01:20:58,890 have it be over with, right. They know he don't want to play 1270 01:20:58,890 --> 01:21:03,030 football. They know this as we see it. Now. It's like, every 1271 01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:05,010 time this guy gets the opportunity to play football, 1272 01:21:05,010 --> 01:21:08,340 some as something happens where he blows it himself. So what 1273 01:21:08,340 --> 01:21:11,520 we're going to do is we're going to put on this huge spectacle in 1274 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:18,420 Atlanta, in the blackest city in America and invite him on down. 1275 01:21:19,290 --> 01:21:22,350 And then we're gonna let him put the ball, we're gonna put the 1276 01:21:22,350 --> 01:21:25,440 ball in his court. What No, no, no, no, no, 1277 01:21:25,470 --> 01:21:29,550 then the handler's went to Katherine. Oh, no. 1278 01:21:30,690 --> 01:21:37,530 So what they did was three hours before the private workout was 1279 01:21:37,530 --> 01:21:40,110 posted began. They said, No, we're not doing that. We're 1280 01:21:40,110 --> 01:21:43,440 going to hold our own workout. And that's where this clip was 1281 01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:48,210 taken from, that we just heard. It was. Now if you have three if 1282 01:21:48,210 --> 01:21:50,760 you know you're not going to well, you know what, I'm gonna 1283 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:55,380 let Stephen A Smith. And it's important that we use Stephen A 1284 01:21:55,380 --> 01:21:58,500 Smith throughout this whole story because they're juxtaposed 1285 01:21:58,500 --> 01:22:01,230 and we'll get to that, why and how they're juxtaposed in a 1286 01:22:01,230 --> 01:22:05,700 minute. But Stephen speaks on Khan Academy and doesn't want to 1287 01:22:05,700 --> 01:22:07,200 play he wants to be a martyr. 1288 01:22:07,470 --> 01:22:11,280 So let me get this straight. Colin Kaepernick has been 1289 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:18,240 working out all of this time. Him, people in his camp is 1290 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,000 closed ones loved ones everybody talks about he wants to play 1291 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,400 football. He wants to play football. He's ready to play. 1292 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:30,060 Just give him the tans. So what does the NFL do? Recognizing 1293 01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:36,060 that teams need a shield? Because they need something to 1294 01:22:36,060 --> 01:22:40,470 hide behind? Because they know that guess what? If we bring 1295 01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:43,050 this brother in for a workout and we don't like him or we 1296 01:22:43,050 --> 01:22:46,590 don't want him who knows what we're going to get accused of? 1297 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:51,270 We need copper. So the NFL provides that I have no doubt 1298 01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:54,030 Jay Z's involved. I have no doubt Roger Goodell was involved 1299 01:22:54,150 --> 01:22:56,010 I have no doubt there's a host of people involved but 1300 01:22:57,870 --> 01:22:58,710 I liked his guy 1301 01:23:00,660 --> 01:23:02,970 nice he's a sports sports caster. Yeah. 1302 01:23:03,510 --> 01:23:09,120 Oh, he is the sports caster over ESP. Okay, gotcha. So this 1303 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,750 happened this was Saturday afternoon at the Colin cabinet 1304 01:23:12,750 --> 01:23:17,760 makes his rent Steven a Smith you're saying is beside himself? 1305 01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:22,530 Because I think he kind of smells what's going on? 1306 01:23:22,530 --> 01:23:24,990 He's on he's totally on to it. He sees sees it or 1307 01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:29,520 Yeah, of course. But we're gonna let Stephen a spirit continue 1308 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,440 about him being a martyr. This man, 1309 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:41,220 one of the Champs 25 teams show up in Georgia. At the Atlanta 1310 01:23:41,220 --> 01:23:44,640 Falcons practice facility started off facility, NFL 1311 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:48,990 personnel, equipment, everything, video, everything. 1312 01:23:50,190 --> 01:23:54,060 And what does Colin Kaepernick do? Not Tuesday, when he found 1313 01:23:54,060 --> 01:23:57,120 out about an hour Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 1314 01:23:58,260 --> 01:24:00,990 three hours before the workout 1315 01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:06,120 because of some issue with a liability waiver. 1316 01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:12,420 Colin Kaepernick wants to change the venue. Colin Kaepernick 1317 01:24:12,420 --> 01:24:16,230 wants his own receivers. Colin kapernick wants to video thinks 1318 01:24:16,230 --> 01:24:22,530 himself. Colin Kaepernick wants to media this Colin Kaepernick 1319 01:24:22,530 --> 01:24:25,590 media can't find him. He doesn't know interviews. He talks to 1320 01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:28,620 nobody media can't find him, but he wants to do it. He wants to 1321 01:24:28,620 --> 01:24:34,110 be available now. He don't want to play. He wants to be a mater, 1322 01:24:34,410 --> 01:24:36,210 an agent of change. 1323 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:45,120 So a lot of he was he's been critical as we heard in previous 1324 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,750 clips of Colin Kaepernick not voting. But other times he's 1325 01:24:48,750 --> 01:24:52,230 been supportive for Colin Kaepernick on his show. But 1326 01:24:52,410 --> 01:24:57,000 Colin Kaepernick not only didn't piss off Stephen A Smith, he 1327 01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,540 also was pissed off undisputed host Shane In a sharp, 1328 01:25:00,750 --> 01:25:03,780 I'm disappointed with how calf handled the situation. I think 1329 01:25:03,780 --> 01:25:06,030 everybody knows this watch this show for the last three years 1330 01:25:06,030 --> 01:25:08,760 Kip, I've been wanting to calf biggest supporters. You and I 1331 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,120 talked talked about this, I believe every single day for 1332 01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,670 about three or four months, when everybody else touched on it at 1333 01:25:14,670 --> 01:25:17,790 the beginning and left the subject alone. You and I talked 1334 01:25:17,790 --> 01:25:20,850 about it. I talked to cap, I knew how much he wanted to get 1335 01:25:20,850 --> 01:25:24,270 back into league. And I even coined a term, coined the term 1336 01:25:24,450 --> 01:25:27,870 as the cap has been white ball that has not changed. But the 1337 01:25:27,870 --> 01:25:32,160 way he handled this situation skip now, key knew that he 1338 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,910 received this on a very short notice. He could have said, you 1339 01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:39,270 know, I my representatives have just given me word that the NFL 1340 01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:44,040 has set up a workout for me. I will get back to you. As soon as 1341 01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:48,900 I know more details. He jumped in headfirst. So you knew this 1342 01:25:48,900 --> 01:25:53,880 was gonna be on a Saturday. He turns around because when he did 1343 01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:58,710 skip, he's in his camp and his supporters says the NFL wants to 1344 01:25:58,710 --> 01:26:02,010 control the narrative. Well, the NFL says we them should let you 1345 01:26:02,010 --> 01:26:05,610 control the narrative. And he walked into a trap that they 1346 01:26:05,610 --> 01:26:10,080 said what cap is trying to do is cap is trying to appease a 1347 01:26:10,110 --> 01:26:13,980 audience that has no role in him getting a job. You can showcase 1348 01:26:13,980 --> 01:26:16,620 your talent for the immediate all you want to you can try to 1349 01:26:16,620 --> 01:26:19,530 appease your fan base all you want to, but they will play no 1350 01:26:19,530 --> 01:26:23,910 role and you're getting the job. Can you show up to a job 1351 01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:26,130 interview with a cooter can t shirt? 1352 01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:33,930 J Yes, no, no, no. He should have a hoodie that just says, 1353 01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:39,990 Toby. Well, he can't do that. Of course not. He can't do that. 1354 01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:42,270 Just to give you that. Oh, man, 1355 01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:49,290 as as you know, always like to give context to the things that 1356 01:26:49,290 --> 01:26:53,640 you're saying that are happening. By cool. I'm out by 1357 01:26:53,670 --> 01:26:59,490 let's say Kaepernick. But why oh, I'm Colin Kaepernick showing 1358 01:26:59,490 --> 01:26:59,940 up with that. 1359 01:27:00,929 --> 01:27:04,769 Show title koonta Kaepernick, there you go. That'll get some 1360 01:27:04,769 --> 01:27:05,789 SEO delegates. 1361 01:27:09,870 --> 01:27:14,730 They can't take shirt home. by proxy. He's calling the NFL 1362 01:27:14,730 --> 01:27:15,720 owners were slave 1363 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:22,800 owners. And just for there may be some younger listeners who 1364 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:27,540 didn't grow up with Alex Haley's epic roots, the saga of an 1365 01:27:27,540 --> 01:27:31,800 American family. It's on Netflix. I'm sure it's a must 1366 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,040 watch binge over the weekend, the Thanksgiving weekend. 1367 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:44,280 So as you mentioned, Alitalia had a slave. Pizza slave. trauma 1368 01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,320 based entertainment, Carl roots. 1369 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,410 Thanks. Thank you for saying that. Because when I say you 1370 01:27:49,410 --> 01:27:52,380 need to watch it. We have discussed this before. Maybe we 1371 01:27:52,380 --> 01:27:54,480 discussed it just on the phone, I think I don't think it was in 1372 01:27:54,480 --> 01:27:58,800 the show. It is totally trauma based entertainment. Absolutely. 1373 01:27:59,550 --> 01:28:01,920 In fact, very traumatic to watch. 1374 01:28:02,820 --> 01:28:06,750 To the point. My father said when he saw it, they went to 1375 01:28:06,750 --> 01:28:14,460 school the next day, and we got into brawls over it. Wow. So by 1376 01:28:14,460 --> 01:28:21,330 him using this icon of Kuta kente. He know he knew what one 1377 01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:27,720 he knew what how the billionaire petty, as we've laid out, owners 1378 01:28:27,750 --> 01:28:33,180 would take it and he knew what it was signify to his super woke 1379 01:28:33,180 --> 01:28:38,490 crowd that he that back soon. But for people that don't know 1380 01:28:38,490 --> 01:28:43,800 who called Tecate to Kuta Kente is I want to explain what the 1381 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:48,720 significance of that is. I want to hear you say your name. Your 1382 01:28:48,720 --> 01:29:10,590 name is Toby. What's your name? Lord God helped him What's your 1383 01:29:10,590 --> 01:29:36,030 name? Toby say your name What's your name? Toby. Change again. 1384 01:29:38,700 --> 01:29:46,380 What's your name? Toby. My name is Toby 1385 01:29:50,220 --> 01:29:54,000 good. Yeah, that was the Yeah. 1386 01:29:55,920 --> 01:30:01,320 Ah. So in that scene, we have QA Colin Kaepernick playing the 1387 01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:05,640 role of cooltech kente. That won't be broken. He wants to he 1388 01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,080 wants to say his name is Toby 1389 01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:11,400 and we got the NFL and the owners saying it's Toby. And 1390 01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:11,640 who's 1391 01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:16,320 the third character in there? Steven a smooth. Oh Lord, 1392 01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:17,460 they're gonna break it boy. 1393 01:30:20,250 --> 01:30:23,730 Damn. They just took the old playbook. 1394 01:30:25,170 --> 01:30:30,030 Recycle that Dez perfect. Yes. And now people are saying well 1395 01:30:30,030 --> 01:30:32,430 mo you're going a little far out or 1396 01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:36,390 I don't I don't think so. At all. I totally see this. I mean, 1397 01:30:36,390 --> 01:30:41,850 it's okay. I stand up for you mo I will I will defend you on this 1398 01:30:41,850 --> 01:30:42,120 one. 1399 01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,980 to backup my claim Stephen A Smith sighs biggest contract at 1400 01:30:46,980 --> 01:30:50,250 ESPN history. I want to talk about Steven Naismith. According 1401 01:30:50,250 --> 01:30:54,840 to the NY Post, he has to basically sign a new deal to 1402 01:30:54,840 --> 01:31:01,530 become ESPN its highest paid talent on air personality in 1403 01:31:01,710 --> 01:31:06,150 their history. Okay, now this is according to the NY Post. So 1404 01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:10,830 Steven Naismith is about to make a lot more money. Okay. And 1405 01:31:10,830 --> 01:31:14,520 that's for the people who, you know, like them and the people 1406 01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,160 who don't, I know the people who don't are really going to like 1407 01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:21,060 this. Because quite frankly, Steven Naismith is going to be 1408 01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:24,630 Richard Smith is in line to become the highest paid on air 1409 01:31:24,630 --> 01:31:28,950 person at ESPN by potentially boosting his salary to 10 1410 01:31:28,950 --> 01:31:32,460 million per year according to the people with knowledge of 1411 01:31:32,490 --> 01:31:39,510 upcoming negotiations. Hmm This is the Boolean play. Yes, sir. 1412 01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:49,620 Stephen A. And you know what this clip is from March 6. They 1413 01:31:49,620 --> 01:31:55,500 don't find they don't finalize the deal. Until let it till last 1414 01:31:55,500 --> 01:32:02,100 week. Oh, how convenient. How convenient, which ESPN has which 1415 01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:06,780 is Disney has a lot of has a big contract with the NFL. And 1416 01:32:06,780 --> 01:32:09,690 they're no more than Gosh, Steven Naismith sizes, the 1417 01:32:09,690 --> 01:32:14,040 biggest contract in ESPN history. Right before he goes on 1418 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:19,770 to attack. Public Enemy Number One as far as NFL concern, Colin 1419 01:32:19,770 --> 01:32:20,280 Kaepernick. 1420 01:32:20,310 --> 01:32:26,370 So he Okay, so his contract was done. Announce and then the 1421 01:32:26,370 --> 01:32:30,240 kapernick thing happens. Yes. No perfect timeline. So of course, 1422 01:32:30,270 --> 01:32:33,690 ESPN, Xenon it Oh, man. Yes. So what 1423 01:32:33,690 --> 01:32:38,700 you have is you have the Boulais versus the woke crowd. I'm 1424 01:32:38,700 --> 01:32:42,120 sorry, which the woke crowd is funded by Soros. People like 1425 01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,430 that and the Boulais or more establishments? 1426 01:32:44,460 --> 01:32:48,360 Well, you also made the right connection. ABC that they have 1427 01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,160 the contract for the games. I don't even know. 1428 01:32:50,910 --> 01:32:53,490 Yeah, well, ESPN, they show on Monday Night Football, right. So 1429 01:32:53,490 --> 01:32:53,640 they 1430 01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:57,120 own they own everything. Okay, so they own Stephen A Smith's do 1431 01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,630 they own? They own everybody except for this show. But we're 1432 01:33:00,630 --> 01:33:01,980 for sale for the right amount. 1433 01:33:04,470 --> 01:33:05,610 My name is coming to 1434 01:33:07,860 --> 01:33:09,660 I won't be I won't be broken. 1435 01:33:12,030 --> 01:33:15,330 Stephen A Smith in that in that story you just made up there. I 1436 01:33:15,330 --> 01:33:17,160 don't want to be the slave owner. No. All right. 1437 01:33:17,550 --> 01:33:20,820 No, no, what I'm saying is, that's the reason why we do this 1438 01:33:20,820 --> 01:33:25,320 because we nobody know will point these things out because 1439 01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:29,820 everybody has a vested interest on either sides. Right? I mean, 1440 01:33:29,850 --> 01:33:33,330 you know that that's why you do the no agenda show. Because if 1441 01:33:33,330 --> 01:33:36,540 you have sponsors, it's like shut up, Adam. Yes. You know. 1442 01:33:37,530 --> 01:33:42,810 Yeah, we refuse to do that. But this has came at a cost of Mr. 1443 01:33:42,810 --> 01:33:48,480 Steven Naismith. Oh, Terrell Owens confront Steven Naismith. 1444 01:33:49,500 --> 01:33:52,740 So what he wanted was transparency for people to see 1445 01:33:52,830 --> 01:33:56,160 the full workout to see the full Colin Kaepernick. Again, you 1446 01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:58,350 mentioned obviously Max is going to get in here. Like I said, I'm 1447 01:33:58,350 --> 01:34:02,490 in the streets. Max almost seems blacker than you, Steven A. with 1448 01:34:02,490 --> 01:34:04,710 with with what he was coming. 1449 01:34:06,060 --> 01:34:11,100 Here. With all due respect my brother, I'm just man. I'm gonna 1450 01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:14,040 check you right now. You don't cry. Just say Tomatometer. Wait 1451 01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,550 a minute, you don't cross the line. First of all, like I said, 1452 01:34:17,580 --> 01:34:23,100 You, Colin Kaepernick, Eric Reid, any of y'all that wanted 1453 01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:25,770 to bait me in front of black people and talk about what's 1454 01:34:25,770 --> 01:34:29,550 best for black people. Name the time and place I'll show up. I 1455 01:34:29,550 --> 01:34:32,250 don't want to hear what's the definition of blackness is the a 1456 01:34:32,250 --> 01:34:34,140 definitive definition of blackness. 1457 01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,050 And now Terrell is a player right? Because he 1458 01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:45,300 was a former player, and he says that, Stephen A Smith's co hosts 1459 01:34:45,390 --> 01:34:49,350 Max Kellerman is black and is Stephen A Smith. 1460 01:34:49,710 --> 01:34:52,290 This would seem like an insult 1461 01:34:53,730 --> 01:34:55,320 of the highest order. 1462 01:34:55,500 --> 01:34:58,080 That's what I'm thinking. That's not a cool thing to say. And 1463 01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:59,130 this was on the air 1464 01:35:00,570 --> 01:35:04,410 Yes, this was on Stephen A Smith show and let me just give some 1465 01:35:04,410 --> 01:35:10,470 background. Steven Naismith sometimes takes the conservative 1466 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:15,600 side of art because this debate shows him a max debate right and 1467 01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:20,730 to keep max for seeming like the racist white guy Steven by the 1468 01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,330 by the structure of the show you Steven a smear some most of the 1469 01:35:24,330 --> 01:35:28,050 time takes the conservative side and let's Mack argue the liberal 1470 01:35:28,050 --> 01:35:32,460 side so he didn't look like the races white guy right? Yes, 1471 01:35:32,940 --> 01:35:37,290 right. But if this crap has blown up and Steven Naismith 1472 01:35:37,290 --> 01:35:40,290 space, but let me just give a little point here, Steven 1473 01:35:40,290 --> 01:35:45,840 Naismith always like to say, I'm a black man. Before he prefaces 1474 01:35:46,020 --> 01:35:52,980 in the statement. Let his co host a white Jewish guy be 1475 01:35:52,980 --> 01:35:56,670 called blacker than him there. Oh, 1476 01:35:56,699 --> 01:36:00,629 this is best. 1477 01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:05,760 Terrell God goes on to invite max to the cookout 1478 01:36:05,790 --> 01:36:08,640 here and I know Max, you didn't have a chance to jump in and I'm 1479 01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:09,840 sure you want a response. Okay, 1480 01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,960 got a shot of explosive when to you said tongue in cheek. You 1481 01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,810 said that, Stephen that I seem blacker than Stephen A and 1482 01:36:15,810 --> 01:36:18,540 Stephen A obviously had to respond to that. And I want to 1483 01:36:18,540 --> 01:36:21,510 respond to that before I say what I originally wanted to say. 1484 01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:24,690 Which is first of all, I can't eat any more all the cookouts 1485 01:36:24,690 --> 01:36:28,620 I've been invited to like since this whole thing came up. I see 1486 01:36:28,620 --> 01:36:33,120 Stephen as having inherited not only your respect for authority, 1487 01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:37,470 but a working knowledge of reality and what it takes to get 1488 01:36:37,470 --> 01:36:40,590 ahead, no excuses. You can always look for excuses. You can 1489 01:36:40,590 --> 01:36:42,510 look for things to lean on. You can look for where it's not 1490 01:36:42,510 --> 01:36:47,220 perfect. Or you can do what you have to do, which is what Steven 1491 01:36:47,220 --> 01:36:50,940 Hayes done. And I would say that his his that your point of view, 1492 01:36:50,940 --> 01:36:55,080 Stephen A to Stephen A's point of view is not less black 1493 01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:59,430 necessarily than someone else's who's more strident. It is more 1494 01:36:59,430 --> 01:37:02,460 conservative in certain respects. And my point of view 1495 01:37:02,460 --> 01:37:06,120 is oftentimes more progressive. My own background is Jewish, 1496 01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:09,030 secular, not religious, but Jewish secular. So one of the 1497 01:37:09,030 --> 01:37:12,840 things you get around Passover is act like you are a slave in 1498 01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:16,380 Egypt. That's how I grew up. But you know, with that tradition of 1499 01:37:16,380 --> 01:37:19,770 always look at the oppressed and look for righteousness and 1500 01:37:19,770 --> 01:37:23,970 justice. And so I'm strident in that way. However, me myself I 1501 01:37:23,970 --> 01:37:26,370 did not have to go through the struggle like that. 1502 01:37:26,580 --> 01:37:29,970 Now explain the cookout? Is this just some old cookout? Where 1503 01:37:29,970 --> 01:37:30,930 cookout is this? 1504 01:37:32,460 --> 01:37:37,470 He made it to the cookout. Barbecue. 1505 01:37:38,850 --> 01:37:40,230 I want to be at the cookout. 1506 01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:46,020 So the cookout is this stupid thing that the woke people do? 1507 01:37:46,500 --> 01:37:50,490 When white people do something that's pleasing to them? They 1508 01:37:50,490 --> 01:37:53,490 say, Oh, he's invited to the cookout. 1509 01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:00,540 Oh, God, I'm learning so much today. It's certainly. 1510 01:38:01,890 --> 01:38:06,000 So it's not my definition. I'll let Busby explain to you what 1511 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:06,870 the cookout is. 1512 01:38:07,110 --> 01:38:09,780 Well, the cookout to me is like we're blessed people come to the 1513 01:38:09,780 --> 01:38:12,750 blackity Black Flag all generations get together. That's 1514 01:38:12,750 --> 01:38:15,360 the one place you can like teach like the older generation is 1515 01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:16,110 most of vacation 1516 01:38:16,110 --> 01:38:19,080 true. A cookout is a safe place to be Well, friends and family 1517 01:38:19,110 --> 01:38:21,180 but good data is the only place where you don't have to code 1518 01:38:21,180 --> 01:38:21,570 switch. 1519 01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,000 It's immediate family and siblings, aunts, uncles, 1520 01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,300 cousins, neighbors, family friends. Take aunties fake 1521 01:38:27,300 --> 01:38:27,960 uncles. 1522 01:38:28,050 --> 01:38:30,810 It was my Haitian education school. That's where I learned 1523 01:38:30,810 --> 01:38:34,590 about my culture, my music, how to cook like the importance of 1524 01:38:34,590 --> 01:38:35,490 family members. 1525 01:38:35,850 --> 01:38:38,970 Can people find it the cookout? Okay, 1526 01:38:39,030 --> 01:38:43,230 you're not supposed to. Okay, it's sounds pretty holy. This 1527 01:38:43,230 --> 01:38:44,250 cookout business. 1528 01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:53,490 I mean, it's where if you're, and this is gonna piss some 1529 01:38:53,490 --> 01:38:57,270 people off, but this one good. So just beware. When you're a 1530 01:38:57,270 --> 01:39:02,130 black person, and you deal in white, mostly white places, 1531 01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:07,530 spaces a cookout to you? It's like this magical place of 1532 01:39:07,530 --> 01:39:11,130 blackness. You know, to me, it's some you know, some food on the 1533 01:39:11,130 --> 01:39:16,230 grill and you just kick back. Yeah, but if you're live in 1534 01:39:16,230 --> 01:39:19,830 whitespaces, what are they how they you term it, you know, to 1535 01:39:19,830 --> 01:39:22,920 be around a majority of black people or something magical to 1536 01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:27,210 them. And then to bring a white person into that is the highest 1537 01:39:27,420 --> 01:39:31,740 of the highest order of compliments that they bestow 1538 01:39:31,740 --> 01:39:34,560 upon a super white white person. He invited 1539 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:38,670 to the cookout. He made it to the barbecue, 1540 01:39:38,730 --> 01:39:41,910 you know what, the cookout that's right 1541 01:39:43,350 --> 01:39:52,380 after cookout. So, it had to be like I said it had to be the 1542 01:39:52,380 --> 01:40:01,140 highest insult to to Steven a Smith because as not only does 1543 01:40:01,140 --> 01:40:05,250 Matt go on, he gets invited to the cookout that he goes on to 1544 01:40:05,250 --> 01:40:08,640 why explain the struggle? Why did you hear? 1545 01:40:10,380 --> 01:40:13,260 We talked about this point yesterday, and what you're 1546 01:40:13,290 --> 01:40:16,260 alluding to there, it's actually white privilege, black people 1547 01:40:16,260 --> 01:40:19,620 don't enjoy it. And I'm not giving up any privilege not a 1548 01:40:19,620 --> 01:40:22,830 single bit of privilege, but I will insist that all human 1549 01:40:22,830 --> 01:40:25,800 beings are so privileged and that includes Kaepernick and if 1550 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,440 he wants to wear Kunta Kinte eight shirt Good for him. 1551 01:40:28,590 --> 01:40:31,380 So at what point are you following the story now you're 1552 01:40:31,380 --> 01:40:34,920 really angry because of what's happening to your your, your 1553 01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:39,960 relaxation, sport, football. This This must be this must be 1554 01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:40,800 maddening. 1555 01:40:41,550 --> 01:40:48,600 I'm so pissed and not about the row. This guy said he'd not 1556 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,480 given up any of his player privilege, and that's who you 1557 01:40:51,480 --> 01:40:55,140 invite to the cookout? Are you serious? I mean, because to say 1558 01:40:55,170 --> 01:41:01,680 I have privilege is one special, I have a special say you can't 1559 01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,020 have privilege and they say everybody else has it too, 1560 01:41:04,020 --> 01:41:07,170 because that makes it not a privilege. Exactly. So I'll read 1561 01:41:07,170 --> 01:41:11,520 through his bullshit. It's like yeah, I got that. Super white 1562 01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:15,840 privilege, you know, and I let go and none of it. Are you are 1563 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,470 you people? Are you not hearing him? And what got me pissed off 1564 01:41:19,470 --> 01:41:25,440 is under the comments of the Terrell Owens video, where he's 1565 01:41:26,310 --> 01:41:32,370 called Steven a word called call max blacker than Stephen A. And 1566 01:41:33,330 --> 01:41:37,680 invited max to the proverbial cookout. Everybody Yeah, yeah, 1567 01:41:37,710 --> 01:41:40,620 Max. He's super Whoa, yeah. Invite him to the cookout in 1568 01:41:40,620 --> 01:41:44,430 Kona Marco gonna do you know, he likes season meat. I'm like, Are 1569 01:41:44,430 --> 01:41:50,100 you gonna get a WUSA please yes, you can get a WUSA anytime you 1570 01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:50,280 need 1571 01:41:58,470 --> 01:42:08,340 this is great. Thank you. This is great. So as me Steven A had 1572 01:42:08,340 --> 01:42:13,620 an off with a cookout and Max irksome. Oh, great. Colin 1573 01:42:13,620 --> 01:42:18,090 Kaepernick. People have reached out to numerous folks. I was one 1574 01:42:18,090 --> 01:42:25,440 of them. They said he wants to play. It's not fair. He did this 1575 01:42:25,440 --> 01:42:29,760 for us. All he wants to do now is put this behind him he wants 1576 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:35,130 to play. Will you help us? So it's rock nation. It's Jay Z and 1577 01:42:35,130 --> 01:42:38,280 the crew is the NFL and Roger Goodell went behind the backs of 1578 01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:40,470 the executive VPS because they didn't even know about the 1579 01:42:40,470 --> 01:42:45,120 workout. What happened was, he has to work out. And then after 1580 01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:49,530 the workout, he antagonizes the very commissioner who helped put 1581 01:42:49,530 --> 01:42:54,210 this together, told him to stop running, showed up with a Kuta 1582 01:42:54,210 --> 01:42:57,900 kente shirt on, you know, essentially it said we'll see 1583 01:42:57,900 --> 01:43:00,750 once again that's see that's where that's why I say you go to 1584 01:43:00,750 --> 01:43:02,970 that black barbecue or you want to, but let me tell you 1585 01:43:02,970 --> 01:43:08,490 something right now. You cannot have 31 White owners. You show 1586 01:43:08,490 --> 01:43:11,580 up with a cooter kit they shared a basically alluding to them as 1587 01:43:11,580 --> 01:43:12,000 slaves. 1588 01:43:12,210 --> 01:43:14,730 You gotta gotta show your hat in your hand and beg for the 1589 01:43:14,730 --> 01:43:15,270 opportunity to 1590 01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,320 see that's why I'm saying because the after this you gotta 1591 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:22,050 leave you go go home as the I got to go in the black community 1592 01:43:22,050 --> 01:43:24,360 and deal with stuff just because you interrupted me to make that 1593 01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:24,720 point. 1594 01:43:27,180 --> 01:43:32,550 Wow. I'm speechless. One of these days. Stephen A Smith is 1595 01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:34,350 gonna put maximum hands on max. 1596 01:43:34,380 --> 01:43:39,000 Yeah. Sounds like it's shut up. Yeah, he's gone a bit far. Now. 1597 01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:39,600 Max. 1598 01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,710 Do you know because he like he does it all the time. He's, he's 1599 01:43:43,740 --> 01:43:50,340 he's, he's super duper Whoa, super duper Whoa. And they said 1600 01:43:50,340 --> 01:43:54,060 what she wants to do go what you had in your hand. I mean, he's 1601 01:43:54,060 --> 01:43:57,150 projecting these things onto the Steven Naismith and I don't know 1602 01:43:57,150 --> 01:44:01,200 if he realizes or not. He has to be aware of because Max is a 1603 01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:06,090 super super intelligent person. So it's like by you saying that 1604 01:44:06,420 --> 01:44:10,800 that's what Stephen A Smith means when he says that. It only 1605 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:11,730 makes it worse. 1606 01:44:13,650 --> 01:44:19,500 Okay, now and this was this past week. These these clips. Yeah, 1607 01:44:19,530 --> 01:44:23,370 this is this is Thursday and Friday. Thursday was when this 1608 01:44:23,370 --> 01:44:26,220 is Thursday is when I decided to do this show. Because when I 1609 01:44:26,220 --> 01:44:31,500 heard the max is black and and Stephen A Smith. I hit my best 1610 01:44:31,500 --> 01:44:36,570 friend and my he's my confidant, you know, we talk about like, 1611 01:44:36,570 --> 01:44:41,640 how things are land. And I was like, do Did you see this crap? 1612 01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:45,780 And I was like, Yep, I gotta do a show on this. I gotta, I gotta 1613 01:44:45,780 --> 01:44:48,240 cover this because this is an Bucha right here. 1614 01:44:48,480 --> 01:44:51,480 Well, so you've set us up perfectly for what's what's 1615 01:44:51,480 --> 01:44:55,830 coming next. And I can only imagine with all these pieces on 1616 01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:58,230 the feet. I don't know what's happening in football land and 1617 01:44:58,230 --> 01:45:01,980 what what a great moment will be eat other than Super Bowl is the 1618 01:45:01,980 --> 01:45:06,780 only moment I know about. But it seems like we need a Nike 1619 01:45:06,780 --> 01:45:11,460 campaign a shoe. And in some kind of slogan or something we 1620 01:45:11,460 --> 01:45:15,600 need now he needs to cease needs to start cashing in. And we know 1621 01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,340 it's not going to be on playing ball. 1622 01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:22,230 Now the NFL that's why I said the NFL is part of this story is 1623 01:45:22,230 --> 01:45:26,520 a wrap. Because they proved to him prove to people that want to 1624 01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,330 see it. Colin Kaepernick doesn't want to play in the NFL, because 1625 01:45:30,330 --> 01:45:33,960 we gave him the opportunity to come showcase his talent. And he 1626 01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:38,760 pulled this. I mean, he did. His team did what was best for their 1627 01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:42,060 interests, and their interest is not playing football, is to be a 1628 01:45:42,060 --> 01:45:45,480 social justice icon. So I understand it from that 1629 01:45:45,480 --> 01:45:49,170 standpoint, I don't support it, but I understand what their 1630 01:45:49,170 --> 01:45:52,980 motives were. And NFL got what they want it because they got to 1631 01:45:52,980 --> 01:45:57,060 say, well, that's done. And now which is where there's Colin 1632 01:45:57,060 --> 01:45:58,290 Kaepernick go from here. 1633 01:45:58,679 --> 01:46:02,309 Well, exactly. And it's, it's going to be a complicated 1634 01:46:02,309 --> 01:46:06,599 affair. Because as far as so he got paid. He got he got millions 1635 01:46:06,629 --> 01:46:11,399 of 123 20. Who cares? 1 million is a lot of money. Mo 1636 01:46:12,510 --> 01:46:18,120 he's, we told you he signed the deal for what 126 million? Yeah, 1637 01:46:18,150 --> 01:46:20,100 I mean, it's not like he's heard from my I mean, that's 1638 01:46:20,130 --> 01:46:23,220 exactly but but Nike is in an interesting spot. So we're going 1639 01:46:23,220 --> 01:46:30,150 to see is the NFL, the koonta kente of Nike. Because Nike pays 1640 01:46:30,150 --> 01:46:35,910 a big ask Bill for all of this stuff. Nike controls a lot in 1641 01:46:35,910 --> 01:46:39,720 sports. So if they say hey, Kaepernick is our guy, and we're 1642 01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:43,770 gonna use him for the Wii ready campaign or whatever. antagonize 1643 01:46:43,770 --> 01:46:46,350 the NFL up to the Super Bowl. Maybe I don't I don't know 1644 01:46:46,350 --> 01:46:49,740 anything about the football. But it seems like that would be the 1645 01:46:49,740 --> 01:46:52,320 move. And I think it's gonna be interesting. They're probably 1646 01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,680 all in on it and just keep the controversy going. Money flows. 1647 01:46:56,700 --> 01:47:00,810 The controversy definitely helps Nike and NFL really can't fight 1648 01:47:00,810 --> 01:47:03,390 Nike because they're in bed with them. 1649 01:47:03,420 --> 01:47:07,320 Yeah, they already they already showed the NBA to shut up. Yeah, 1650 01:47:07,349 --> 01:47:10,709 so I mean, he's the daddy is everybody's Daddy. Yes, Mac. 1651 01:47:11,969 --> 01:47:14,549 Well, and I got this question for you might be the answer for 1652 01:47:14,549 --> 01:47:20,549 me. Now, when we talk about Nike versus the NFL, that's one thing 1653 01:47:20,579 --> 01:47:23,069 but when we talk about Nike versus Disney 1654 01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:29,640 here Yeah, well, oh, gosh, that's a good one. Because 1655 01:47:29,670 --> 01:47:35,820 Disney of course is the biggest parent company. The evil 1656 01:47:35,820 --> 01:47:40,020 Deathstar. Man there's so big there's so incredibly big, so 1657 01:47:40,020 --> 01:47:40,800 powerful. 1658 01:47:42,540 --> 01:47:45,720 And it's amazing that stitch Shannon's sharpening kit, any 1659 01:47:45,750 --> 01:47:49,530 blowback from his identical stance and Steven a Smith, right 1660 01:47:49,530 --> 01:47:53,190 Steven a Smith was labeled a bad guy who works for ESPN. Who is 1661 01:47:53,190 --> 01:47:58,740 the parent company of of daughter company of Disney, but 1662 01:47:58,860 --> 01:48:02,550 daughter company of Disney. Yes. So that's where we add 1663 01:48:02,610 --> 01:48:04,200 Alright, so what do you think what do you think's gonna 1664 01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:06,360 happen? What do what are we what are we look out for? 1665 01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,480 I think something's gonna flare back up again around the 1666 01:48:09,480 --> 01:48:13,290 Superbowl time because Mr. Jay Z. He's the he's been hired. 1667 01:48:13,740 --> 01:48:15,240 Yes, they've been planning. 1668 01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:18,870 He's like a wedding planner for football. 1669 01:48:20,610 --> 01:48:25,320 Glorified event planner. I mean, let's be honest here. So I'm 1670 01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:33,480 sure the woke crowd will have something to say about candles 1671 01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:38,100 that the performances of the of the NFL 1672 01:48:38,130 --> 01:48:40,350 alright, I'll make a prediction roll. I'll make a prediction. 1673 01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:44,640 Yes, I'll make one. You will not believe the Nike commercial 1674 01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,400 you'll see during the Superbowl that would be my prediction. 1675 01:48:48,660 --> 01:48:51,780 Wait one minute, wait one minute almost slipped something out of 1676 01:48:51,780 --> 01:48:59,490 here. Okay, so there was the article with the Colin 1677 01:48:59,490 --> 01:49:04,530 Kaepernick said he's gonna schedule another workout this 1678 01:49:04,530 --> 01:49:08,700 spring and he's gonna take it to wherever the South Florida where 1679 01:49:08,700 --> 01:49:14,850 the NFL owners hold their hold their yearly conference it Uh 1680 01:49:14,850 --> 01:49:17,730 huh. But that's after the Super Bowl. Right? That's after Super 1681 01:49:17,730 --> 01:49:20,370 Bowl. So I mean, that's that's their plan for next season. 1682 01:49:20,850 --> 01:49:21,780 Yeah, you gotta keep the 1683 01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:25,560 course. You got you gotta gotta keep the Colin Kaepernick show 1684 01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:26,010 going. 1685 01:49:26,940 --> 01:49:29,880 He's gotten he's got picked up he's got another season so he 1686 01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:32,400 might as well the series is doing well. If you can do three 1687 01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,920 more years you can go into syndication and live forever. 1688 01:49:36,390 --> 01:49:41,100 Wow. Mo thank you so much for for unfolding this. Then again, 1689 01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:44,400 I learned a lot really because not just because I'm a white guy 1690 01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:50,100 is because I don't know football. And that really, and I 1691 01:49:50,190 --> 01:49:53,130 took copious show notes. So there'll be in the show notes, 1692 01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:58,800 which are all linked to Edmo facts.com. And this is good. 1693 01:49:58,890 --> 01:50:02,520 Thank you so much. As you know, there's a couple people I want 1694 01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:06,510 to keep my eye on. Is you still with the same girlfriend? Tab? 1695 01:50:06,540 --> 01:50:11,880 Yes. Okay. keep my eye on her. And she's still tweet and we do 1696 01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:13,950 that or did she stop tweeting? Did she wish she 1697 01:50:14,130 --> 01:50:19,230 did and she's still she's still working she still works and she 1698 01:50:19,230 --> 01:50:26,610 has an ordinary career on television in radio and other 1699 01:50:26,610 --> 01:50:31,170 things. So it's this weird thing that he you know, he takes all 1700 01:50:31,170 --> 01:50:38,610 the action or takes all the brunt of the the blows and then 1701 01:50:38,610 --> 01:50:43,110 she she gets to live her life. I mean, he to me, he's the use of 1702 01:50:43,140 --> 01:50:46,170 ATM and a puppet. And so 1703 01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:52,260 and a fantastic Outro Song for this show. Which relates to 1704 01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:55,560 content Kaepernick. I'm just gonna say it on the show. I 1705 01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:59,160 won't say it anywhere else. It's just between you and me. This is 1706 01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:06,240 between you hey I'm the Steven A they're so thank you, man. This 1707 01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,750 is great. I cannot wait to do it all over again on Monday 1708 01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:12,630 after cookout Yeah. 1709 01:51:13,860 --> 01:51:16,170 Wish I was not invited to I'll point that out. 1710 01:51:18,900 --> 01:51:23,130 Thanks mo Are you welcome and as always say pay attention to 1711 01:51:23,130 --> 01:51:25,050 everything and the truth will reveal itself. 1712 01:51:25,620 --> 01:51:29,790 And we'll be back on Monday. Check us out and Moe facts.com 1713 01:51:29,790 --> 01:52:08,220 and donate on us oh baby Stop Loving. Me