1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,951 Moe Factz with Adam curry for October 14 2019. This is episode 2 00:00:10,112 --> 00:00:15,570 number 11. Hey Moe, how you doing? 3 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,150 I'm doing pretty good Adam, how about yourself 4 00:00:18,180 --> 00:00:21,930 doing real good. You know, I went to a no agenda meet up here 5 00:00:21,930 --> 00:00:26,160 in Austin last Thursday, and a lot of people complimented 6 00:00:26,670 --> 00:00:29,280 complimented the show, I want to make sure you heard that people 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,480 are really loving it. 8 00:00:31,950 --> 00:00:35,160 I'm glad to hear that and I'm on my YouTube channel, I get a lot 9 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:37,680 of feedback that people are loving the podcasts as well that 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,430 are not no agenda listeners. As of right now, I'm trying to 11 00:00:41,790 --> 00:00:42,720 convert them but 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,240 it's okay. We bring them in with Moe Factz, and then we take it 13 00:00:47,300 --> 00:00:50,859 from there. Right? reminder for everyone. This is a podcast 14 00:00:50,919 --> 00:00:54,357 which is produced under the value for value system, which 15 00:00:54,418 --> 00:00:58,158 means you listened to it, if you got any value from it, please 16 00:00:58,218 --> 00:01:01,958 return that. And we'd like to do that at MoeFund.com mo e fund 17 00:01:02,018 --> 00:01:05,818 me.com keep the show going and just show the value that you got 18 00:01:05,878 --> 00:01:09,558 from it. It's a way for us to measure how much how good we're 19 00:01:09,618 --> 00:01:13,539 doing. So no, I'll remind you at the end of the show as well. Now 20 00:01:13,599 --> 00:01:17,098 uh, you already told me what's going to go on with today's 21 00:01:17,158 --> 00:01:20,536 program. I'm very excited because I started looking into 22 00:01:20,597 --> 00:01:24,336 this myself. I think sometime maybe about a week ago. And then 23 00:01:24,397 --> 00:01:28,197 once you once you sent me a note saying oh Monday we'll do this 24 00:01:28,257 --> 00:01:31,876 I'm like okay, I'm just gonna kick back relax. I thought you 25 00:01:31,937 --> 00:01:35,676 know, then you put me to work like doing clips and stuffs like 26 00:01:35,737 --> 00:01:39,115 seriously Moe we got to talk about the distribution of a 27 00:01:39,175 --> 00:01:40,020 workload here. 28 00:01:40,860 --> 00:01:46,500 You're stepping on my beats man. I look upon sports one is my 29 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:47,700 beat Okay, so 30 00:01:47,970 --> 00:01:50,610 what can I tell you? I mean, you know when I'm just chillin I 31 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:53,790 look a little watch little Fs one check out my man Jason. You 32 00:01:53,790 --> 00:01:56,340 know, I know what I'm up to speed. 33 00:01:57,810 --> 00:02:00,720 Yeah, I was when I was listening to the show yesterday. I was 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:06,330 like, Man, he's all over my clips. So so for the for the 35 00:02:06,330 --> 00:02:10,080 people that is not in the know. And are not old school hip hop 36 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,710 fans. You might not might not have a hint by now that we're 37 00:02:13,770 --> 00:02:21,060 talking about the NBA, and China and I'm going ons between 38 00:02:21,090 --> 00:02:25,770 between the two. So let's clip heavy today. So I want to jump 39 00:02:25,770 --> 00:02:28,980 right in. And let's just get clip one first, some background. 40 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:39,810 About more protests in Hong Kong today and tonight the conflict 41 00:02:39,810 --> 00:02:44,310 between demonstrators and police is impacting Houston. The 42 00:02:44,310 --> 00:02:47,730 Houston Rockets are facing backlash because General Manager 43 00:02:47,850 --> 00:02:51,390 Daryl Morey tweeted support for those protesters. Stephanie 44 00:02:51,390 --> 00:02:54,270 Whitfield shows us how one little tweak can have huge 45 00:02:54,270 --> 00:02:55,230 consequences. 46 00:02:55,980 --> 00:02:59,250 The rockets may call Houston home, but they have fans all 47 00:02:59,250 --> 00:03:02,520 over the world. In fact, the team is incredibly popular in 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,300 China. That's why a now deleted tweet from General Manager Daryl 49 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:11,970 Morey has led to major backlash. I'll explain. For weeks there 50 00:03:11,970 --> 00:03:15,180 have been massive protests in Hong Kong, which started because 51 00:03:15,180 --> 00:03:18,540 of a controversial extradition bill. The demonstrations have 52 00:03:18,540 --> 00:03:21,690 since morphed into a bigger fight for democracy in the semi 53 00:03:21,690 --> 00:03:26,130 autonomous territory. Well, on Friday, the rockets GM tweeted a 54 00:03:26,130 --> 00:03:29,790 picture that read fight for freedom stand with Hong Kong 55 00:03:30,030 --> 00:03:33,600 owner Tillman Fertitta quickly stepped in saying Maury does not 56 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,110 speak for the rockets. We are not a political organization. 57 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:40,920 Well tonight, Daryl Morey apologized on Twitter, saying in 58 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,190 part, he did not intend his tweet to cause any offense to 59 00:03:44,190 --> 00:03:48,330 rockets fans and friends of his in China. But the situation had 60 00:03:48,330 --> 00:03:52,020 spiraled anyway. And now the Chinese Basketball Association 61 00:03:52,020 --> 00:03:55,560 announced its ending cooperation with the Houston team. And the 62 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,340 company that broadcast the NBA in China says it won't cover 63 00:03:59,340 --> 00:04:03,840 rockets games. Forbes estimates NBA China is worth more than $4 64 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,920 billion. And thanks to Chinese Hall of Famer Yao Ming, the 65 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,310 rockets are one of the most popular teams, and that's why a 66 00:04:11,310 --> 00:04:14,850 tweet could cost the franchise millions. And some fans 67 00:04:14,850 --> 00:04:19,380 speculate it could cost it's GM his job. Stephanie Whitfield, k 68 00:04:19,380 --> 00:04:20,970 h o u 11. News. 69 00:04:21,090 --> 00:04:24,030 Yeah, this was great. This was so interesting to hear not 70 00:04:24,030 --> 00:04:28,620 following sports at all, as you've already pointed out, yes. 71 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,020 All of a sudden, I was like, Oh, that's interesting. So what's 72 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:34,200 the deal with China and the NBA? Um, I really didn't know 73 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,040 anything about it. 74 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,860 Okay, so um, and I actually have a clip slip here, but I'll give 75 00:04:40,860 --> 00:04:43,860 you a little background. A little thing I didn't know in my 76 00:04:43,860 --> 00:04:49,740 digging up. Why this is such a big deal. Basketball is Chinese 77 00:04:49,770 --> 00:04:55,500 national sport. And it has been since like the early 1900s When 78 00:04:55,500 --> 00:05:01,200 the YMCA went over, really and yeah, and I'm hate us lost that 79 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,980 clip in the shuffle but yeah, it mean it's that's why they have 80 00:05:05,010 --> 00:05:08,880 this is such a big deal. Even Mao, he was a big fan of 81 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,570 basketball. 82 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,260 And that explains Kim Jong goons fashion fascination with it as 83 00:05:13,260 --> 00:05:16,770 well. Of course North Korea being closely allied to China. 84 00:05:17,490 --> 00:05:22,080 Yes. So all this, you're saying is coming together? And as they 85 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,700 say, Yeah, I mean, I know you're not a huge sports fan, but he 86 00:05:26,700 --> 00:05:30,480 was he's probably the most famous Asian basketball star 87 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:36,240 ever. When he came into the NBA, they even kind of like handpick 88 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,210 what markets he would go to. It was either Houston, he had to be 89 00:05:39,210 --> 00:05:41,940 one with a large Asian population. Right? It had to be 90 00:05:41,940 --> 00:05:46,650 Houston, New York, and I believe, like Golden State, 91 00:05:46,650 --> 00:05:50,490 which is in San Francisco. Sure. Sure. Which, which is crazy. 92 00:05:50,490 --> 00:05:53,820 Because a draft is supposed to be randomized. You know, it's a 93 00:05:53,820 --> 00:05:54,300 random. 94 00:05:54,479 --> 00:05:57,149 Wait a minute, but you're telling me there's funny stuff 95 00:05:57,149 --> 00:06:01,049 going on there? I'm shocked. Whoa. All right. Something's 96 00:06:01,439 --> 00:06:02,039 sports. 97 00:06:02,460 --> 00:06:07,050 Okay, but but we can see here with when big money's involved. 98 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,260 The NBA is, you know, it, 99 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,270 it looks at his interest. First. It's 100 00:06:15,270 --> 00:06:20,160 a business of course, it's it's a business kind of covering as 101 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,220 some kind of philanthropic we're just organizing the game type 102 00:06:23,220 --> 00:06:24,420 deal, but it's huge. 103 00:06:25,170 --> 00:06:28,410 Yes. And as we're gonna see here, it might be even bigger 104 00:06:28,410 --> 00:06:33,090 than business. But we'll get to that later. So now we have a 105 00:06:33,090 --> 00:06:37,950 crisis of Daryl Morey of the Houston. Right. And Wes, what 106 00:06:37,950 --> 00:06:43,170 was weird that it came from a, I had the franchise, which is most 107 00:06:43,950 --> 00:06:49,200 known to be, you know, aligned with the Chinese market. Right. 108 00:06:49,230 --> 00:06:53,010 So it was weird for him to tweet that out. And I'm doing some 109 00:06:53,010 --> 00:06:56,220 more digging why that happened or what his where that came 110 00:06:56,220 --> 00:06:59,850 from. But let's get into managing the crisis. 111 00:06:59,940 --> 00:07:02,760 At the end of the day, the values of the link support 112 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,270 individuals educating themselves and sharing their views on 113 00:07:06,270 --> 00:07:12,000 matters important to them, which is kind of a non retreat 114 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,380 retreat. The NBA isn't the first nor it will be the last to 115 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:17,730 tiptoe around China. 116 00:07:18,330 --> 00:07:21,000 No, I think this is a case, as you mentioned yourself, this is 117 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,030 about following the money not following your principles. And I 118 00:07:24,030 --> 00:07:26,070 think you know, we have to say, you know, what makes America 119 00:07:26,070 --> 00:07:28,320 great. It's not winning its leadership. And I think that we 120 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,410 failed to show leadership here. And what they've responded with 121 00:07:31,410 --> 00:07:34,170 that I call it beached on a sludge bank of corporate POF 122 00:07:34,170 --> 00:07:36,720 statement is something that really is a bit vacuous and 123 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,120 lacks the intent and the meaning that it should have. 124 00:07:39,690 --> 00:07:43,800 I'd like to point out this is from me, a business channel, 125 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,610 CNBC, which is interesting by itself. That means something 126 00:07:47,610 --> 00:07:49,830 with business, but also who's the British guy? What is he 127 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:50,460 doing there? 128 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,340 He is a crisis manager of auction. 129 00:07:54,330 --> 00:07:56,100 Does he work for Hill and Knowlton are one of these 130 00:07:56,100 --> 00:07:56,790 outfits? 131 00:07:57,180 --> 00:07:59,400 I'm not sure where he worked from. I didn't get that 132 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:04,080 information. But he came in and just to speak on how the NBA 133 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,990 should handle the crisis. And let's let me let me make 134 00:08:06,990 --> 00:08:07,980 something as clear here. 135 00:08:09,210 --> 00:08:10,350 There are certain 136 00:08:12,270 --> 00:08:16,680 networks that are aligned with the NBA due to the television 137 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,840 deals, right. And other ones that are not aligned so they can 138 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,370 speak freely on how they truly feel about the NBA. So you have 139 00:08:26,370 --> 00:08:32,850 abc, ESPN, TNT, all these guys are have NBA deal TV deals, 140 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:38,580 okay. So that's why you hear like, organizations like Fox, 141 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:44,430 NBC, they don't have any NBA skin in the NBA game. So they 142 00:08:44,430 --> 00:08:48,090 can I want to lay that out for people. That's why when I didn't 143 00:08:48,090 --> 00:08:53,820 really get any ESPN clips, because they're vested so much 144 00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:58,620 so that I couldn't show this on the graphic. And, um, because we 145 00:08:58,620 --> 00:09:05,490 do audio, but they showed a map of China after this happened 146 00:09:05,670 --> 00:09:10,710 with the South China Sea, on the map, as part of China. 147 00:09:12,810 --> 00:09:15,900 Was that during a news cat that was on ESPN, you said which is 148 00:09:15,930 --> 00:09:18,660 yes. Oh, ESPN, where they had like, you know, they knew I 149 00:09:18,660 --> 00:09:20,940 didn't have the big screen behind them. I have like they 150 00:09:20,940 --> 00:09:24,630 showed the map of China. Sure. And some got captured on 151 00:09:24,630 --> 00:09:27,240 YouTube. That's good. It was like a little dotted line in the 152 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,880 sea. Oh, my God highlighting? Yeah, 153 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,440 that's, yeah, that's part of the nine dash line. I think we've 154 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,430 talked about what the thing was on no agenda that the Chinese 155 00:09:38,580 --> 00:09:42,300 has, like in the 60s, I think there was this map and was oh, 156 00:09:42,300 --> 00:09:44,880 here's a couple of dashes in the sea here. Yeah. Don't worry 157 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,940 about that. That's Oh, yeah. That's part of our territory. 158 00:09:48,390 --> 00:09:51,390 Interesting, though, that they would show that and of course, 159 00:09:51,390 --> 00:09:55,350 both ABC and ESPN are owned by Disney now. 160 00:09:56,069 --> 00:10:00,359 Yes, yes. So they're all like say they're all embedded. With 161 00:10:00,839 --> 00:10:05,009 with the NBA I mean as they shoot his business, so but they 162 00:10:05,009 --> 00:10:09,659 have been very careful how they spoke about it where as you 163 00:10:10,019 --> 00:10:13,319 have, like you said, we both listen to Fox Sports, Fox Sports 164 00:10:13,319 --> 00:10:18,449 News, that's one continent. Yeah, they've been kinda like 165 00:10:18,449 --> 00:10:22,169 lose lose weight, how they've been critiquing the NBA. But 166 00:10:22,169 --> 00:10:24,539 let's get let's listen to this continue to listen to the crisis 167 00:10:24,539 --> 00:10:25,019 manager. 168 00:10:25,140 --> 00:10:27,060 What should the NBA do now? 169 00:10:27,510 --> 00:10:30,180 Well, this is a crisis management situation. And what 170 00:10:30,180 --> 00:10:32,910 they've done so far is behaved in what the wrong way is of 171 00:10:32,910 --> 00:10:36,300 crisis, which is kind of to deny to delay to deflect the 172 00:10:36,300 --> 00:10:39,810 situation. So they've denied as their their point of view, 173 00:10:39,810 --> 00:10:42,720 they've deflected it on a girl in terms of making that 174 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,390 statement. Really, what they need to do now is respond 175 00:10:45,390 --> 00:10:47,670 boldly, but that's going to be very difficult because they've 176 00:10:47,670 --> 00:10:50,190 come out of the gate rather shy and rather show how can 177 00:10:50,190 --> 00:10:55,080 they respond boldly to the US audience that is upset without 178 00:10:55,110 --> 00:10:56,700 further upsetting the Chinese? 179 00:10:56,730 --> 00:10:58,680 Well, this is going to be the dilemma. And I think, you know, 180 00:10:58,680 --> 00:10:59,940 this is a marketing dilemma. 181 00:11:00,270 --> 00:11:02,550 Now, this is why this guy charges a lot of money for 182 00:11:02,550 --> 00:11:05,910 crisis management, because he's not telling you anything. It's 183 00:11:05,910 --> 00:11:09,090 just like, well, it's a problem. Big problem. Yeah. Let me send 184 00:11:09,090 --> 00:11:10,080 you another invoice. 185 00:11:10,620 --> 00:11:14,820 He's advertising his skill. Yeah, off the top 60 seconds 186 00:11:14,820 --> 00:11:18,630 without saying anything. That's what a crisis manager does 187 00:11:18,630 --> 00:11:23,850 Dingo. So I think he's kind of advertising like, Hey, if you 188 00:11:23,850 --> 00:11:26,340 really, like when you click on some, if you really want to see 189 00:11:26,340 --> 00:11:29,100 the details, you know, enter your credit card number, 190 00:11:29,310 --> 00:11:31,980 sign up, register. Yeah, don't worry, you won't be charged for 191 00:11:31,980 --> 00:11:33,090 the first month. All right. 192 00:11:33,390 --> 00:11:37,350 All right. So I'm glad you caught that. Oh, that he's not 193 00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:42,360 really saying anything. Which is that him displaying his skill 194 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,750 set? I think? I think so. And I think you picked up on it as 195 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:50,850 well. Yeah. So let's, let's listen to the crisis manager and 196 00:11:50,850 --> 00:11:51,690 his final take. 197 00:11:51,930 --> 00:11:54,210 You know, we've mentioned that the rockets are sort of China's 198 00:11:54,210 --> 00:11:57,060 home team because of Yao Ming, who played the charge of the 199 00:11:57,060 --> 00:12:00,900 China Basketball Association, could they? Can they kind of 200 00:12:00,900 --> 00:12:03,390 wait this out knowing that that the Chinese will want to 201 00:12:03,390 --> 00:12:05,700 ultimately show this product to its home audience? Or do you 202 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:09,630 think that this is damage that now casts a pall over the entire 203 00:12:09,660 --> 00:12:12,030 thinking about how many times we come on set, we talk about some 204 00:12:12,030 --> 00:12:14,910 crazy thing, and then a week later, no one remembers, right, 205 00:12:14,910 --> 00:12:17,130 usually here in the United States, usually on social media, 206 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,330 but they'll remember in shambles 207 00:12:18,330 --> 00:12:21,390 China has a lot in America does not. And I think that's the 208 00:12:21,390 --> 00:12:24,090 advantage here, the way the NBA should play. This is exactly 209 00:12:24,090 --> 00:12:26,970 that by next Wednesday, none of us are going to remember what we 210 00:12:26,970 --> 00:12:29,250 ate today. And we're not going to remember this potentially, 211 00:12:29,250 --> 00:12:31,620 that's what they have to hope on. That's going to have to be 212 00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:34,260 their strategy. That cannot be the strategy in China. 213 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,262 Well, that's not going to work that strategy, because Moe Factz 214 00:12:37,309 --> 00:12:38,010 is on the case. 215 00:12:38,940 --> 00:12:42,270 And not only am I not on the case, but many other people are 216 00:12:42,270 --> 00:12:45,930 on the case as well, because it's a political football. Yeah, 217 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:51,360 this is a huge political football. I found this 218 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,360 fascinating because the business aspects of it, the political 219 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,430 aspects of it, as we know, President Trump is in actual 220 00:12:59,550 --> 00:13:05,610 trade war with China. So and he's no, he's been in a word war 221 00:13:05,610 --> 00:13:10,380 with the NBA. And it's in its players. So you have all these 222 00:13:10,380 --> 00:13:16,440 different players in this game, and for like, you're saying no 223 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,030 pun intended, that are, you know, kind of, they're all 224 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:25,110 aligned in different ways. And they're all against each other 225 00:13:25,110 --> 00:13:27,090 in other ways. Now. So 226 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,310 what is most interesting to me, because obviously, what's 227 00:13:29,310 --> 00:13:31,440 happening here is China's said, Okay, we're not going to 228 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,790 broadcast the games. But really, there's a, there's a huge deal 229 00:13:35,790 --> 00:13:38,910 behind that. I mean, there's broadcast rights do they do is 230 00:13:38,910 --> 00:13:41,730 that something they pay up front? Do they pay monthly? How 231 00:13:41,730 --> 00:13:43,680 does it work with the merchandising where they just 232 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:46,200 shut down shoe production? I mean, there's all this stuff 233 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,860 that is, is up in the air. And but we we really don't I mean, 234 00:13:49,860 --> 00:13:54,000 we, we know that the Chinese are upset, but I'm not quite sure 235 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,470 exactly what that means for the NBA. It appears that the 236 00:13:58,470 --> 00:14:03,120 audience numbers in China are five times maybe 10 times what 237 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,630 they are in the US and I can see we're getting a certain term 238 00:14:06,630 --> 00:14:09,300 that's going to hurt him sure, with ad rates and whatever. 239 00:14:10,290 --> 00:14:13,950 Where here's the thing, the Chinese are in a difficult spot 240 00:14:13,950 --> 00:14:19,050 to, because what they're doing now as a lot of posturing, but 241 00:14:19,050 --> 00:14:22,350 can they really shut the NBA off? I don't think so. Good 242 00:14:22,350 --> 00:14:25,110 question. I don't really think so. Because there are people 243 00:14:25,530 --> 00:14:28,980 imagine if you say you're going to show football off in America. 244 00:14:29,490 --> 00:14:33,300 I mean, it's like the equivalent you will have so much outcry 245 00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:38,280 that the government will have to kowtow to the people. And I 246 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,000 think China had to come out and say you know be strong in the 247 00:14:42,030 --> 00:14:46,260 beginning. They had to get on top of the thing fast. Because 248 00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:49,830 if it and we're gonna see later why and it's show, that's just a 249 00:14:49,830 --> 00:14:54,450 teaser, but we're gonna see later why in the show, but 250 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,329 um, my mind my mind is already racing Moe I can think of so 251 00:14:57,377 --> 00:15:00,372 many different things that has gone going on with the Chinese. 252 00:15:00,420 --> 00:15:03,414 I mean, my favorite thought is, maybe they just want to signal 253 00:15:03,463 --> 00:15:06,264 to Trump that, hey, we didn't like Obama either, you know, 254 00:15:06,312 --> 00:15:09,162 something, something like that. It's just, I don't know, it 255 00:15:09,210 --> 00:15:10,080 could be anything. 256 00:15:11,310 --> 00:15:14,400 It's a lot of things. It's not just one thing. It's a lot of 257 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,640 things. And like I said, it's a lot of different players. And 258 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,210 one of those players in this game is the Commissioner, Adam 259 00:15:21,210 --> 00:15:26,400 Silver, as the crisis manager says, he's handled leads very 260 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,900 poorly. And let's listen to him. Listen to a sample of that. 261 00:15:31,379 --> 00:15:35,159 As some of you may know, I issued a statement shortly 262 00:15:35,159 --> 00:15:40,319 before this press conference. Because I thought there was a 263 00:15:40,319 --> 00:15:44,099 lot of misunderstanding out there about our position, I 264 00:15:44,099 --> 00:15:46,769 thought we had been somewhat straightforward, but I can 265 00:15:46,769 --> 00:15:50,549 understand given translations, and given interpretations in 266 00:15:50,549 --> 00:15:54,059 different parts of the world, why there might have been some 267 00:15:54,059 --> 00:15:58,649 confusion. And essentially, what I've said in that statement is 268 00:15:58,649 --> 00:16:03,269 the long head held values of the NBA are to support freedom of 269 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:06,869 expression, and certainly freedom of expression by members 270 00:16:06,869 --> 00:16:10,739 of the NBA community. And in this case, Daryl Morey as the 271 00:16:10,739 --> 00:16:14,849 General Manager of the Houston Rockets enjoys that right. As 272 00:16:14,849 --> 00:16:19,109 one of our employees. What I also tried to suggest is I 273 00:16:19,109 --> 00:16:23,339 understand that there are consequences from that exercise. 274 00:16:24,359 --> 00:16:29,789 In essence, his freedom of speech, and you know, we will 275 00:16:29,789 --> 00:16:31,529 have to live with those consequences. 276 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,210 I love the Hey, you did not use the transit got lost in 277 00:16:36,210 --> 00:16:38,130 translation dumb Chinese. 278 00:16:39,690 --> 00:16:42,960 You miss you miss out there before that. Oh, what was that? 279 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,610 He says, I thought we were somewhat straightforward. How 280 00:16:47,610 --> 00:16:49,230 are you? Someone works for 281 00:16:49,860 --> 00:16:56,280 you? Good point. Good. Kind of truthful. Come on. try my best. 282 00:16:57,420 --> 00:17:00,330 Right. I was kinda truthful. Yeah, like you said, but what 283 00:17:00,330 --> 00:17:03,750 he's doing is he's moonwalking on a razor blade here. 284 00:17:03,839 --> 00:17:07,469 Nice. Oh, nice. I like that term. I've never heard that. 285 00:17:07,770 --> 00:17:13,380 So because what he's doing is, is you have China on one side 286 00:17:13,410 --> 00:17:17,610 that when these kinds of things happen Chinese want blood. And 287 00:17:17,610 --> 00:17:20,790 what I mean by that is they want somebody fired. They want to see 288 00:17:20,790 --> 00:17:24,720 hedge row. And they want to see somebody getting gotten rid of, 289 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:32,580 but if he does that, it signals to the spine, something the NBA 290 00:17:32,580 --> 00:17:38,040 has a walk contingency, and their fan base, just because of 291 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,940 what the NBA represents, all halves have has charged to 292 00:17:41,940 --> 00:17:46,710 represent. So if he goes and fires a guy over freedom of 293 00:17:46,710 --> 00:17:51,630 speech, then he loses that market. Right. So now he is like 294 00:17:51,630 --> 00:17:56,220 he's doing this balancing act. And, um, he's been very 295 00:17:56,220 --> 00:17:58,920 unsuccessful with it. I think he needs to call the crisis, man. 296 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,110 Especially, you know, I mean, I remember when Adam Silver became 297 00:18:04,110 --> 00:18:07,710 the commissioner. And I just remember going Wow, man, that 298 00:18:07,710 --> 00:18:11,580 guy looks creepy. He better say something good because just 299 00:18:11,580 --> 00:18:14,310 looking at him you like I don't want to do business with him. It 300 00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:15,930 looks like he's right out of the Addams Family. 301 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:24,780 He does he he gives you that vibe. Yeah. So so now we have, 302 00:18:25,170 --> 00:18:29,640 like I said before, we have some super world coaches in the NBA 303 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:34,740 one being Steve Kerr, and the other one being Gregg Popovich. 304 00:18:35,130 --> 00:18:39,990 And so Gregg Popovich tried to do this weird parlor trick. And 305 00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:42,210 I'm not gonna say anything, we'll see if you can catch it. 306 00:18:44,700 --> 00:18:55,620 Freedom of speech, fell great again. So he's been a heck of a 307 00:18:55,620 --> 00:18:58,950 leader in that respect. Very courageous. 308 00:19:00,750 --> 00:19:02,730 And when you compare it to what we've had to live through the 309 00:19:02,730 --> 00:19:07,650 last three years, big difference, big gap there 310 00:19:07,770 --> 00:19:12,510 leadership, wise and courage was, and it wasn't easy for him 311 00:19:12,510 --> 00:19:18,750 to say. He said that in an environment fraught with 312 00:19:19,380 --> 00:19:24,540 possible economic peril. But he sided with the principles that 313 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:32,580 we all hold dearly. Or most of us do. So in the last three 314 00:19:32,580 --> 00:19:33,030 years, 315 00:19:33,870 --> 00:19:38,490 well, this is interesting what I what I got from that is, it's 316 00:19:38,490 --> 00:19:46,380 Trump's fault. Whatever Trump's fault, man is three years of 317 00:19:46,380 --> 00:19:46,650 that 318 00:19:46,679 --> 00:19:47,609 psychopath, 319 00:19:48,300 --> 00:19:50,880 whenever something goes wrong, I blame 320 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,500 Troy Trump. past three years have been really difficult and 321 00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:57,180 challenging for free speech. 322 00:19:57,660 --> 00:20:03,120 Right, right, right. As manager of what which team? Popovich is 323 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:06,030 the coach. He's the coach. 324 00:20:07,170 --> 00:20:12,003 Just look, we've determined that this is the White Men Can't Jump 325 00:20:12,078 --> 00:20:15,350 edition of Moe Factz without him correct. So 326 00:20:16,140 --> 00:20:21,134 the sports beat i gotta gotta get you got to beef up your 327 00:20:21,222 --> 00:20:26,391 chops. All right. Well, coaches are referred to as coaches, 328 00:20:26,479 --> 00:20:31,824 Adam. Oh, I'm just pulling your leg. Yeah, he's the he is the 329 00:20:31,911 --> 00:20:36,030 coach of the Spurs San Antonio Spurs. Oh, right 330 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,760 down the road. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, of course I should have known 331 00:20:38,790 --> 00:20:39,810 so. 332 00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:44,610 But he's also he's been pro me anti. He's been anti trump the 333 00:20:44,610 --> 00:20:49,050 whole time. Trump has been in office, and he's been pro woke, 334 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:55,230 woke agenda. We wish. The strange thing is, and I want to 335 00:20:55,230 --> 00:20:59,550 say this right off the bat. I believe these coaches have to 336 00:20:59,550 --> 00:21:04,410 appear to be woke. Because Gregg Popovich came from a military 337 00:21:04,410 --> 00:21:08,790 background. Let me be clear on that. Actually, military 338 00:21:08,790 --> 00:21:13,470 intelligence, I believe in the Air Force, if I'm not mistaken. 339 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,790 Okay. So 340 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,390 with that said, 341 00:21:19,140 --> 00:21:24,000 him and Steve Kerr, our coaches have two of the biggest 342 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:30,480 franchises in the NBA, and to recruit what a woke players, you 343 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,520 have to appear to be a woke coach. Because Gregg Popovich 344 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,260 was originally known as being one of the most stringent system 345 00:21:40,290 --> 00:21:45,630 coaches, you know, there is, but he's done this weird pivot in 346 00:21:45,630 --> 00:21:48,930 the last few years and last several years to your SAM being 347 00:21:48,930 --> 00:21:53,760 very liberal. With that says, let's listen to more of Gregg 348 00:21:53,790 --> 00:21:54,780 Gregg Popovich. 349 00:21:55,620 --> 00:22:01,650 So I'm thrilled with what he said, as I said, the courage and 350 00:22:01,650 --> 00:22:07,800 leadership display is off the charts by comparison. We've all 351 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,370 talked about or heard about all the questions that all the 352 00:22:11,370 --> 00:22:14,250 talking heads have, and everybody for the last three 353 00:22:14,250 --> 00:22:17,190 years, what kind of country we want to be, who are we? Where do 354 00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:22,530 we want to go? That sort of thing. Adam, said something that 355 00:22:22,530 --> 00:22:25,410 helps you understand what direction you need to go in, 356 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,150 rather than the cowardice of not being able to respond to 357 00:22:30,150 --> 00:22:34,320 something like the murder of Mr. Khashoggi. And many, many 358 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,710 incidents like that words, leadership and courage, mean 359 00:22:37,710 --> 00:22:42,810 nothing. It's all about personal aggrandizement. So I was 360 00:22:42,810 --> 00:22:43,200 thrilled. 361 00:22:43,410 --> 00:22:49,620 Because, wow, this is one of the best clips of projection that 362 00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:53,520 I've ever heard. Well, you know, we have such crap leadership, 363 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,310 just look at Trump. And it's just horrible. And you know, 364 00:22:56,310 --> 00:23:00,960 it's been so hard and we're, we're real leaders bull crap. 365 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,550 Did you catch the one thing in there? Did you catch that I'm, I 366 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:08,040 didn't ring my bell too much. Because it was so much stuff I 367 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:13,260 could bring it on. As one name he brought up in there, I want 368 00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:17,280 to catch it was in the beginning. It may be in the 369 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:17,790 middle. 370 00:23:19,980 --> 00:23:23,010 I play it again, and people can play along at home. So 371 00:23:24,780 --> 00:23:28,590 I'm thrilled with what he said it as I said, the courage and 372 00:23:28,590 --> 00:23:34,770 leadership displayed is off the charts by comparison. We've all 373 00:23:34,770 --> 00:23:38,340 talked about or heard about all the questions that all the 374 00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:41,580 talking heads have and everybody for the last three years, what 375 00:23:41,580 --> 00:23:44,490 kind of country we want to be. Who are we? Where do we want to 376 00:23:44,490 --> 00:23:50,100 go? That sort of thing. Adam said something that helps you 377 00:23:50,370 --> 00:23:54,510 understand what direction you need to go in, rather than the 378 00:23:54,510 --> 00:23:57,750 cowardice of not being able to respond to something like the 379 00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:59,370 murder of Mr. Khashoggi. 380 00:23:59,879 --> 00:24:05,249 Oh, yeah, of course. Of course. It's like, oh, well, this is why 381 00:24:05,249 --> 00:24:07,859 the clip was so good. Actually. You know, if you don't have the 382 00:24:07,859 --> 00:24:11,219 courage to talk about something the Saudis did in Turkey, then 383 00:24:11,219 --> 00:24:14,219 you can watch basketball I mean, what is this guy this guy is 384 00:24:14,219 --> 00:24:15,929 insane to say these things. 385 00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:21,930 It was actually very very measured and calculated. I look 386 00:24:21,930 --> 00:24:25,410 at and that's maybe just just how I look at things. He was the 387 00:24:25,410 --> 00:24:29,790 one red meat to the media. Oh, yeah. Hi. Hey, you gonna let he 388 00:24:29,790 --> 00:24:32,250 didn't really talk about when he killed one of you guys wanting 389 00:24:32,250 --> 00:24:33,120 to press this? Is 390 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:37,470 it right and yeah, it's a good point and part and actually that 391 00:24:37,470 --> 00:24:40,890 did work for a little bit there at blipped I remember just in 392 00:24:40,890 --> 00:24:43,500 the past week or so had this blip of a little bit of 393 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:49,800 Khashoggi Khashoggi news are referring to it. But, you know, 394 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:55,080 the the consultant, the British consultant on CNBC, he was kind 395 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,120 of saying what he's doing he's like, You got it. We need a 396 00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:00,420 divergence. Everyone forgets this by Wednesday says Guys like 397 00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:03,240 yeah, Khashoggi try that out. You're right. red meats. The 398 00:25:03,270 --> 00:25:04,800 good good analysis. 399 00:25:05,220 --> 00:25:08,940 Yeah. to the media. Yeah, to the media, because he wanted to meet 400 00:25:08,940 --> 00:25:12,600 it. It goes off on the NBA. But the media couldn't go soft on 401 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,430 the NBA. And I think Greg miscalculated one thing. 402 00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:20,040 Whenever you come for Trump, 403 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,230 Trump is going to come back for you, you know, 10 times worse. 404 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,180 And with that said, 405 00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:33,030 let me just weave now, Trump has been in his bag for the last so 406 00:25:33,030 --> 00:25:37,800 week and a half or so. With him say just with how he's been 407 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,340 coming at people. I mean, he's been shifty shift. 408 00:25:42,150 --> 00:25:47,160 Nervous, Nancy? Right. And nervous man, Peter and Lisa, the 409 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,090 leader lovers. 410 00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:54,180 So he's in rare form. Yeah, he's in sports. When they call 411 00:25:54,180 --> 00:25:57,120 lathering up, he's lathering up, right. That's when you get a 412 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:02,670 good sweat going to go into 2020. And so with that says he's 413 00:26:02,670 --> 00:26:05,940 ready for Gregg Popovich. And let's listen to 414 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,960 the Chinese wrong to be putting pressure on the NBA, sir. 415 00:26:10,740 --> 00:26:13,650 Well, the NBA is a different thing. I mean, I watch this guy, 416 00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:16,260 Steve Kerr. And he was like a little boy who was so scared to 417 00:26:16,260 --> 00:26:18,600 be even answering the question. He couldn't answer the question. 418 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,480 He was shaking. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. He didn't 419 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,480 know how to answer the question. And he and he'll talk about the 420 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,100 United States very badly. I watched Popovich sort of the 421 00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:32,370 same thing. But he didn't look quite a scared actually. But 422 00:26:32,370 --> 00:26:35,100 they talked badly about the United States. But when it talks 423 00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:37,320 about China, they don't want to say anything bad. I thought it 424 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,780 was pretty sad. Actually. It'll be it'll be very it'll be very 425 00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:43,860 interesting. Excuse me. 426 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,110 Are you okay? Then with the Chinese government pressuring 427 00:26:46,110 --> 00:26:47,640 the NBA over Hong Kong, they have to work 428 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,120 out their own situation, NBS. They know what they're doing. 429 00:26:51,270 --> 00:26:57,180 But I watched the way that like, occur. Popovich and some of the 430 00:26:57,180 --> 00:27:01,290 others were pandering to China, and yet to our own country, they 431 00:27:01,290 --> 00:27:04,170 don't. It's like they don't respect it. It's like they don't 432 00:27:04,170 --> 00:27:07,650 respect it. I said, What a difference. Is that sad? It's 433 00:27:07,650 --> 00:27:09,210 very sad. To me, it's very sad. 434 00:27:09,330 --> 00:27:13,950 Oh, man, classic, classic column unpatriotic. It works every 435 00:27:13,950 --> 00:27:14,400 time. 436 00:27:14,910 --> 00:27:18,360 He kicked me kicked the ball right back into it on their side 437 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:24,000 of the aisle field. Yeah. And he got he dodged Dasha beautifully, 438 00:27:24,210 --> 00:27:27,510 because at the same time for the people that don't know, he's in 439 00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:31,230 serious negotiations with the first step of the Chinese 440 00:27:31,650 --> 00:27:35,370 agreement. Is that correct? Yeah, yeah, phase 441 00:27:35,370 --> 00:27:40,470 one. Now, it still has to be, quote, written down. But in 442 00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:43,440 fact, I heard Steve Minuchin, the Secretary of the Treasury 443 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,230 say, Well, this is just like buying a building, which was 444 00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:49,920 interesting for him to say that Trump being a builder. He said, 445 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,110 You know what, now we got everything. We got the notes, 446 00:27:52,110 --> 00:27:54,240 we're gonna write it down. You know, we got to hash some stuff 447 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,040 out. But basically, no tariff increases scheduled. And there 448 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,580 would be I'm not so happy with it. But technology transfer and 449 00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:08,970 agreements regarding five G. And then also as Trump call, as 450 00:28:09,330 --> 00:28:13,290 Steve magenic calls it who way but Huawei and then this, but I 451 00:28:13,290 --> 00:28:16,710 think the big thing here is farmers, the end, the Chinese 452 00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:20,400 apparently already buying instead of the $8 billion worth 453 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,700 of goods, it'll go up to 40. They say between 40 and 50. So 454 00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:28,260 I'll just say 40. And then the financial integration of Goldman 455 00:28:28,260 --> 00:28:33,600 Sachs, JP Morgan, and the credit card, American Express and Visa, 456 00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:38,070 MasterCard into China. Those are very big deals, and quite 457 00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:41,460 honestly, and it wouldn't surprise me if you unfolded 458 00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:44,160 this, but I wouldn't be disappointed if you didn't do 459 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:49,530 Trump may use the NBA some kind of a chip in this bargaining for 460 00:28:49,530 --> 00:28:52,320 this phase or for phase two, it wouldn't surprise me certainly 461 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,400 teeing it up that way. 462 00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:58,950 He is and and he made a political decision in two ways. 463 00:28:58,950 --> 00:29:02,700 And the small woman it clipped to he, he put he laid down 464 00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:07,830 there, won. The press was trying to get a soundbite of him coming 465 00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:10,170 at China and he was like, that's, that's not gonna know. 466 00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:12,840 That's between that right. He's like that between the NBA and 467 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,560 China, which, for Trump, I know that was very calculated, 468 00:29:16,590 --> 00:29:19,050 because if he had if he had nothing to lose, he would have 469 00:29:19,050 --> 00:29:22,380 let go on what how he really felt but he knew he had to deal 470 00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:27,150 brewing in the background. And to if you notice, okay, I didn't 471 00:29:27,150 --> 00:29:30,780 get to Steve Kirk clip cost one there was nothing really there. 472 00:29:31,050 --> 00:29:36,870 And to me, it was very audible because the he was speaking very 473 00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:40,920 timid and low when, you know, kind of like that and it was 474 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,940 like so it was very uncomfortable. But Gregg 475 00:29:44,940 --> 00:29:52,170 Popovich was very vocal against Trump. Yeah, I'm with Steve Kerr 476 00:29:52,170 --> 00:29:58,170 wasn't, but Trump chose to go after Steve Carr. That was a 477 00:29:58,170 --> 00:30:00,450 political decision. Okay. My pinion 478 00:30:00,510 --> 00:30:03,690 and current. Just remind me Kerr is 479 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,350 coach for the Golden State Warriors. 480 00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:10,800 Okay, gotcha. My brother from another mother out there, Steph. 481 00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:17,010 Right, right. Yeah, he's your brother's coach. Which is 482 00:30:17,010 --> 00:30:22,380 located where? California Fornia. Sure. San Antonio is 483 00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:27,300 located in Texas. That's red and blue right there. Yeah. So he 484 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:29,790 said, let me go after the low hanging fruit over here in 485 00:30:29,790 --> 00:30:33,690 California. Yeah, right on. And I don't want to I don't want to 486 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,720 upset the applecart. You're saying, Oh, they're San Antonio 487 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,390 fans, right. As I said, it's a lot of it's a lot of moving 488 00:30:39,390 --> 00:30:43,950 pieces in this whole story. And that's why I was fascinated me 489 00:30:43,950 --> 00:30:48,090 and it made it very easy pick for me what the topic was going 490 00:30:48,090 --> 00:30:53,910 to be about today. So with that said, I am not pro China Pro 491 00:30:53,910 --> 00:30:57,450 Hong Kong, because I don't know a lot about it. But I know 492 00:30:57,450 --> 00:31:02,130 there's forces on both sides. This working, you know, working 493 00:31:02,130 --> 00:31:05,640 in the background. And in doing my research, I found this little 494 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:12,390 it's not necessary to the story. But it was funny what I found. 495 00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:16,080 former National Security Officer expose, 496 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,100 Dennis Wilder, former National Security Council director for 497 00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:23,880 China joins us on the phone. Dennis, I think you are in Hong 498 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:24,990 Kong. Is that correct? 499 00:31:25,410 --> 00:31:27,360 Nope. I'm in Washington. 500 00:31:27,390 --> 00:31:31,020 I do apologize. I'm sorry. I'm mistaken. My fault. My fault. 501 00:31:33,420 --> 00:31:44,250 Okay, no, no, I'm not out to do. No. I'm not there. Right. You 502 00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:49,380 got his woman National Security Office official? Well, Leslie, 503 00:31:49,380 --> 00:31:50,880 maybe in Hong Kong? 504 00:31:50,910 --> 00:31:54,720 Yeah, let me address what what we're doing what we have done 505 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,890 with Hong Kong. And I say this with some certainty. So we're 506 00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:01,740 obviously working on a trade deal with Hong Kong with the 507 00:32:01,740 --> 00:32:08,640 China, Hong Kong is effectively owned. And in a two, two systems 508 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,770 state, which means Hong Kong has its own representation for 509 00:32:13,770 --> 00:32:16,530 government, but they also have the Chinese in there. And that's 510 00:32:16,530 --> 00:32:19,050 all under this weird agreement they had with the Brits, and 511 00:32:19,050 --> 00:32:23,520 they gave Hong Kong back but to keep the pressure up on Hong 512 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,590 Kong during the war on China. So Beijing keep the pressure on 513 00:32:28,590 --> 00:32:30,960 them during these negotiations, which has been, you know, I've 514 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:37,620 been it's not small stuff that Trump has been doing. I'm 99% 515 00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:43,650 convinced that our own forces, I'll just say, the civilians in 516 00:32:43,650 --> 00:32:47,010 the State Department, ie, spooks, etc. They're over in 517 00:32:47,010 --> 00:32:49,800 Hong Kong, and they're bribing them up and keeping them going 518 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,480 and giving them US flags and, and playing the US National 519 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,440 Anthem and getting guys to say stuff like this is as Hoh, I 520 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,220 mean, it's brilliant, brilliant to keep the pressure up. And I 521 00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:06,600 think it's succeeded. And if in five weeks, we have a phase one 522 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,350 actual written agreement, I can almost predict that Hong Kong 523 00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:11,940 may simmer down a little bit. 524 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,130 And Mr. Curry, you 525 00:33:14,130 --> 00:33:17,430 call that alley? Oop, perfectly. Thank you, sir. 526 00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:20,400 And I know what that means. I know how to I know how to grab 527 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,370 the URL up and slam it down. I know that all right. 528 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:31,320 So alright, so we have USA Today. Sports pulse. They're 529 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,800 going to lay out the NBA. NBA is China problem. 530 00:33:35,129 --> 00:33:39,119 fight for freedom stand with Hong Kong. Those seven words 531 00:33:39,149 --> 00:33:44,039 have the MBA, shaking, politicians tweeting, and US 532 00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:48,689 fans scratching their heads very clearly noticing the league's 533 00:33:48,899 --> 00:33:52,679 hypocrisy. Here's why. The league typically stays on the 534 00:33:52,679 --> 00:33:55,229 sidelines when a coach like Gregg Popovich or Steve Kerr 535 00:33:55,229 --> 00:33:57,869 tweets, something in opposition to the Trump administration, 536 00:33:58,229 --> 00:34:02,429 very on brand for their audience base. But when Daryl Morey GM of 537 00:34:02,429 --> 00:34:05,819 the Houston Rockets tweeted out his support for Hong Kong panic 538 00:34:05,819 --> 00:34:09,359 took over the leak. The Chinese Basketball Association suspended 539 00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:11,909 all ties with the rockets in the NBA had a choice to make 540 00:34:12,509 --> 00:34:16,769 nothing, support worry, or protect the relationship that 541 00:34:16,769 --> 00:34:19,649 the league has with China. They're trying to do it all. 542 00:34:19,709 --> 00:34:22,109 Yeah. All right. 543 00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:26,490 So that's that she was referring to what I said about him China 544 00:34:26,490 --> 00:34:30,060 moonwalking and razor blade, right? So she she's even stated 545 00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:37,020 that being outraged and you know, taking on social issues is 546 00:34:37,020 --> 00:34:40,830 baked into the brand and the NBA. And this really came about 547 00:34:40,830 --> 00:34:47,850 recently. And I must give a little explanation why. When the 548 00:34:47,850 --> 00:34:53,340 NFL was dealing with the Colin Kaepernick issue, the NBA 549 00:34:53,340 --> 00:34:58,410 leveraged itself on the side of its athletes speaking out, like 550 00:34:59,070 --> 00:35:01,980 we support You know if that was it was Colin Kaepernick was an 551 00:35:01,980 --> 00:35:05,070 NBA will support him. Yeah. Which is funny because they 552 00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:09,240 actually have a rule in NBA against protesting during the 553 00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:12,420 national anthem. But nobody wants to talk about that. 554 00:35:12,690 --> 00:35:17,280 So Well, I think the NFL also has rules and you're supposed to 555 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,010 conduct yourself in a certain manner during the national 556 00:35:20,010 --> 00:35:20,460 anthem. 557 00:35:21,090 --> 00:35:30,360 Where they didn't came after the actual rule. Oh, oh, okay. 558 00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:34,080 They didn't really have a rule in there. But the NBA had a rule 559 00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:37,680 the whole time. But I mean, it's that that just don't let us get 560 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,340 your saying like we always say don't let a the facts get in the 561 00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:46,830 way of a good narrative, of course. Oh, also they did that 562 00:35:46,830 --> 00:35:50,340 as a way they're trying to jockey now am trying to become 563 00:35:51,390 --> 00:35:53,010 America's number one sport. 564 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,950 Oh, of course, they want to take it all away. Yeah. And I 565 00:35:55,950 --> 00:35:56,850 understand why. 566 00:35:57,509 --> 00:36:00,659 And that's why they were so supportive for their athletes 567 00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:05,009 speaking out and say look at us. We have support athletes taking 568 00:36:05,009 --> 00:36:09,359 notice and taking stands against injustice. Yeah, those guys over 569 00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:11,519 there you understand their conservative asshole. Let 570 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,910 me go take a look at LeBrons Twitter feed. I haven't seen 571 00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:17,310 anything from him yet. Oh, you 572 00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:20,520 you're not missing anything from your gaming. 573 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,560 I'm sorry. The future filter when we meet. I know I'll stay 574 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,520 in the present for now. 575 00:36:27,330 --> 00:36:33,750 Okay, so, but she said a lot in that on in that last clip. But 576 00:36:33,930 --> 00:36:37,800 we're in the next clip we're gonna find out why LeBron and 577 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,570 other players are not gonna say anything. 578 00:36:39,870 --> 00:36:42,750 In a statement, Adam Silver preached the importance of free 579 00:36:42,750 --> 00:36:45,120 speech while attempting to smooth over the league's 580 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,600 relationship with China in hopes of moving past all this 581 00:36:48,750 --> 00:36:52,350 altogether. an impossible task really? Why would a league 582 00:36:52,350 --> 00:36:54,960 defined by its culture for open dialogue and social justice 583 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,540 causes try and minimize and apologize for one of their own 584 00:36:57,540 --> 00:37:00,600 speaking out against the human rights atrocities taking place 585 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:07,530 in China? Well, plenty. A lot of money. China is an economic 586 00:37:07,530 --> 00:37:12,720 juggernaut for the NBA. 490 million people in China consume 587 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:16,800 the NBA just last season alone. And just like any capitalistic 588 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,510 Corporation in America, the NBA has built a massive codependence 589 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,660 on good old China. So that's why you have James Harden and 590 00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:27,180 Russell Westbrook praising China. In a recent press 591 00:37:27,180 --> 00:37:30,960 conference. We love China with no plan there. That's why you 592 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,440 have the NBA apologizing to Chinese fans. And that's why 593 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,900 everyone in the league office is freaking out. 594 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:42,330 Hey, Mo, when do we get to these guys are slaves bit of the show 595 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:42,810 dumps? 596 00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:44,250 I was just waiting for that. 597 00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:50,610 Oh, it's coming. It's coming in a week. We know who they are. We 598 00:37:50,610 --> 00:37:54,000 know who they are. They're owned by Yeah. And like I said, we're 599 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,940 gonna get there. And I know, the better term would be pawns, but 600 00:37:59,970 --> 00:38:05,820 we're heading in that direction. So as she says, the NFL, I mean, 601 00:38:05,820 --> 00:38:11,160 the NBA has never faced a cause where it was impactful to their 602 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,190 bottom line. Right? You know, every every stance they took was 603 00:38:14,190 --> 00:38:15,180 the same stance. 604 00:38:17,490 --> 00:38:20,220 That's with all of this woke stuff. It's all very safe for 605 00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:21,720 the people yelling at Sure. 606 00:38:22,890 --> 00:38:27,060 Right. But when the rubber meets the road, and but that's, that's 607 00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:31,590 why it's such a shock for their fan base, right? Because they 608 00:38:31,590 --> 00:38:37,950 actually think these players are really down for the cause. Of 609 00:38:38,580 --> 00:38:41,790 but as we continue in the show, we're gonna see they're not 610 00:38:41,790 --> 00:38:44,310 they're down for the bottom line. But let's get the clip 611 00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:44,790 three. 612 00:38:45,060 --> 00:38:48,660 The NBA does not want to make China mad. They can't afford to. 613 00:38:49,140 --> 00:38:52,890 But let's be real who the NBA has made a deal with. And maybe 614 00:38:52,890 --> 00:38:55,620 the reason why Daryl Morey felt compelled to hit send on Twitter 615 00:38:55,620 --> 00:39:00,030 in the first place. China's government is really bad, they 616 00:39:00,030 --> 00:39:04,470 do not care about human rights. First, there's a million or so 617 00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:09,090 Muslims held in concentration camps in China. Second, people 618 00:39:09,090 --> 00:39:13,260 who speak out against China's atrocities frequently go missing 619 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,820 or get put in jail. Thirdly, Hong Kong, which is a part of 620 00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:21,000 China, but is free to operate separately from the Chinese 621 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,600 regime is losing their freedom minute by minute faster than 622 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,050 agreed upon, which is why Hong Kong is protesting. Firstly, 623 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:34,350 it's getting ugly. It's pretty clear for the NBA a league that 624 00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:38,610 promotes social justice that the bottom line is still the bottom 625 00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:42,360 line. Every corporation has their price and this league is 626 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,870 no different. 627 00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:49,440 She says something interesting. She said Hong Kong is losing its 628 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,820 freedoms faster than agreed upon. I thought that was pretty 629 00:39:53,820 --> 00:39:54,180 funny. 630 00:39:55,350 --> 00:40:00,450 Oh, yeah. We're way ahead of schedule. I'll lose my freedom's 631 00:40:00,450 --> 00:40:01,230 Adam. So 632 00:40:02,250 --> 00:40:05,550 we need to dial that back. Alright, sorry. Sorry. Yes, 633 00:40:05,580 --> 00:40:06,990 no, no, I'm just yeah, this 634 00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:14,099 is just like I said, so the main the main issue 635 00:40:14,430 --> 00:40:17,010 with this whole story, I mean, you have your political 636 00:40:17,010 --> 00:40:20,970 implications and everything like that. But the main word if we 637 00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:24,990 had to summarize in one word of the story is hypocrisy. Yeah. 638 00:40:26,430 --> 00:40:33,300 The hypocrisy of the NBA and his players have been so exposed 639 00:40:34,170 --> 00:40:37,860 that even the media couldn't protect them, right? Even the 640 00:40:37,860 --> 00:40:41,280 politicians couldn't protect them. I mean, they're out there 641 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,940 all they're out there floating on your stand on a law by 642 00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:51,480 themselves. Because we've seen politicians from both sides. Be 643 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,610 pro America over pro China. We've seen like I said, media, 644 00:40:56,850 --> 00:41:03,510 which is funded by its networks. Say, oh, okay, we get a chance 645 00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:06,000 to take a jab at these guys that we don't have make money with 646 00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:11,400 right as as well as they always do. So, we're gonna go to speak 647 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,560 for yourself, and why LeBron and Kaepernick have yet to address 648 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,420 the NBA China controversy. 649 00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:21,390 Now for a big story. Let's return to the NBA, which 650 00:41:21,390 --> 00:41:23,280 continues to deal with the fallout over Daryl Morey his 651 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,400 tweet last week in support of democracy protesters in Hong 652 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,060 Kong. The Chinese government and businesses have threatened the 653 00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:32,940 MBAs activity in China over the incident. But the NBA is most 654 00:41:32,940 --> 00:41:36,060 prominent voice on political and social justice issue. LeBron 655 00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:39,240 James has yet to address it at all. The king silence is 656 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,820 undoubtedly related to his relationship with Nike, whose 657 00:41:41,820 --> 00:41:45,780 business interest in China are even greater than the NBA, and 658 00:41:45,780 --> 00:41:49,290 another of Nike social justice. shoe salesman Colin Kaepernick 659 00:41:49,470 --> 00:41:52,650 has yet to offer any comment on the communist regimes attempt to 660 00:41:52,650 --> 00:41:56,880 curb the Free Speech of American citizen, Daryl Morey. My 661 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,670 question here is are LeBron and Kaepernick and other athletes 662 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,690 pawns in a political game that they don't fully understand. 663 00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:08,640 Ooh, key phrase social justice shoe salesman, what a tongue 664 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,270 twister. 665 00:42:11,550 --> 00:42:15,660 And the answer to that question that he posed is yes, they are 666 00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:20,280 pawns. Yep. They're well pay pawns. But they are pawns down 667 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:25,530 the list. Because when when when I'm when it really comes down to 668 00:42:25,530 --> 00:42:28,470 making a stance, and that was the weird thing, because like 669 00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:32,400 when LeBron James and all the other players in NBA coaches 670 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:38,370 great arm, Steve Carr and Gregg Popovich know, it's real easy to 671 00:42:38,370 --> 00:42:41,160 say, Oh, we stand with Colin Kaepernick in solidarity, you 672 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,970 know, to stand up for worse, right? Right. But these guys 673 00:42:44,970 --> 00:42:48,270 have went missing. And we're talking about a guy like LeBron 674 00:42:48,270 --> 00:42:54,300 James and tweets and Instagram posts about Taco Tuesday, and 675 00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:58,020 Colin Kaepernick. He did this weird trick. I don't know if you 676 00:42:58,020 --> 00:43:01,320 caught it or not. When this thing this whole thing started 677 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,900 brewing up. He did a a look over there kind of thing. He put he 678 00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:12,690 sent out a two page post. Media press release on how he's not 679 00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:17,760 still not back in the NBA NFL yet. He got out ahead of this 680 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,750 thing, creating a diversion, creating a diversion. And I was 681 00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:23,370 like, Oh, I know what that is. 682 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,090 Well, here's the main thing. He's not a basketball player. 683 00:43:27,090 --> 00:43:30,120 He's a football player. So what's the common 684 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,570 element? Nike. 685 00:43:34,740 --> 00:43:37,920 Yeah, exactly. Nike and cash. 686 00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:41,910 Yeah. And not only Nike, but tennis shoe companies in 687 00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:45,450 general. Because we know where most of these products are made. 688 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,900 And they make a lot of money. It's very cheap or cheaply made 689 00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:57,480 product. And it's so foreign. Maybe 20 30x. What they make it 690 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,700 for is a great business King, 691 00:43:59,730 --> 00:44:02,130 I'd say more than 20 30x. But okay, 692 00:44:02,190 --> 00:44:06,240 may maybe I'm just being safe with the numbers, but it may be 693 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:11,700 even more. So but yeah, Colin Kaepernick. He knew people were 694 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:14,400 gonna be coming at him to stick a microphone in his face. Well, 695 00:44:14,430 --> 00:44:17,730 if they can find them, right there. They're gonna be tweeting 696 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,460 out because he never says anything, but they're gonna be 697 00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:24,060 tweeting at him saying, hey, Colin, what's what's your what's 698 00:44:24,060 --> 00:44:28,410 your take? Home? Yeah, yeah. So he got out in front of that 699 00:44:28,410 --> 00:44:33,060 thing, I think at the apt to be out with assume at the behest of 700 00:44:33,060 --> 00:44:36,300 Nike and say, hey, they're going to cover for you. So let's least 701 00:44:36,330 --> 00:44:39,300 release this press release to talk about the NFL and how 702 00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:45,960 you're not back in the NFL. But that didn't stick either. Um, so 703 00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:50,310 we're going to continue with the Speak for yourself. clip clip 704 00:44:50,310 --> 00:44:50,670 two. 705 00:44:51,210 --> 00:44:54,390 There's a song from Hamilton. I want to be in the room when it 706 00:44:54,390 --> 00:45:00,000 happens right where it happens and to me, you're upon if you 707 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,420 not in the room, you may have the greatest exposure, you may 708 00:45:03,420 --> 00:45:06,750 have the greatest celebrity, you may have the loudest voice. But 709 00:45:06,750 --> 00:45:09,060 if you're not in the room where the decisions are being made, 710 00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:13,230 then ultimately then you're you are upon you're not the Queen, 711 00:45:13,230 --> 00:45:16,980 you're not the king. You're not the rook. And with LeBron and 712 00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:21,390 Colin Kaepernick, yes. They're their ability to present a 713 00:45:21,390 --> 00:45:25,410 certain opinion, is just that it's a certain opinion. And it's 714 00:45:25,410 --> 00:45:28,230 connected, as you said, once again, it's it's all about 715 00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:28,860 business. 716 00:45:31,530 --> 00:45:35,400 So what people are starting to realize is that LeBron James, or 717 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,430 Colin Kaepernick or not Malcolm X, and Martin Luther King, 718 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,890 Ronald McDonald and Colonel Sanders. 719 00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:45,090 Take a nice, take them off the wall. They don't deserve that 720 00:45:45,090 --> 00:45:46,260 spot next to Oprah. 721 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,780 Right. Where they came to give them that wall. Well, yeah, 722 00:45:51,810 --> 00:45:54,930 that's what they've tried to they tried to posture themselves 723 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,550 as you know, leaders. But really, their pawns are, you 724 00:45:59,550 --> 00:46:03,840 know, and just to clarify, when you use the word slave, because 725 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,190 I know somebody's trigger, meter who went into the raid you're 726 00:46:08,190 --> 00:46:11,340 talking about? I don't want to put words in your mouth is that 727 00:46:11,340 --> 00:46:11,910 we're all 728 00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:15,240 slaves. Oh, we're all slaves and Gitmo nation. Absolutely. Right. 729 00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:17,700 Yeah, we're all slaves. I'm just wanting to clarify that kind of 730 00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:23,040 no. So my I just probably went bloodshot, but it's listening. 731 00:46:23,070 --> 00:46:24,120 Okay. Yeah. 732 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,440 Well, yeah, thank you for that. But yes, I mean, that's the way 733 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,620 I see we're all wage slaves of one sort or the other 734 00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:35,550 wasteland just fine. If you want to put it where it's like, it's 735 00:46:35,550 --> 00:46:35,940 interesting. 736 00:46:35,940 --> 00:46:38,790 You say that, because 10 years ago, the no agenda show had 737 00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:41,970 these T shirts, which had a barcode on it. And underneath it 738 00:46:41,970 --> 00:46:45,630 said, slave, like that was the translation of the barcode. We 739 00:46:45,630 --> 00:46:49,830 don't sell those anymore. You can't not now that 10 years ago, 740 00:46:49,830 --> 00:46:52,290 that was interpreted as Oh, I get it. We're all slaves of the 741 00:46:52,290 --> 00:46:55,800 system and the barcode. Now, you can't do that. And people get 742 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,280 offended. 743 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,220 Like, how prints run on the side of his face? Like yes, exactly. 744 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,640 Well, but but that, well, there you go. That's the perfect 745 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,910 example. And I met Prince several times, I talked to him 746 00:47:08,940 --> 00:47:15,090 talk to him about this. And that he was truly enslaved to Warner 747 00:47:15,090 --> 00:47:18,810 Brothers. And that's how he felt. And so he I think he used 748 00:47:18,810 --> 00:47:21,750 that that term very appropriately at the time. 749 00:47:22,830 --> 00:47:27,690 And in the same way, LeBron James A may brought up the 750 00:47:27,690 --> 00:47:30,690 reason why I'm not getting on James Harding as much he's a 751 00:47:30,690 --> 00:47:34,440 player for the actual Houston Rockets. The general manager who 752 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,580 made the statement, because he hasn't been very political. He's 753 00:47:38,580 --> 00:47:41,760 like a fun loving, you know, basketball, just a basketball 754 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,710 guy. So but he's, the one cannot say, Oh, we love China. But they 755 00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:49,080 kind of threw him out there to the wolves, like, hey, and 756 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,630 by the end, just just as an aside, you know, it's really 757 00:47:51,630 --> 00:47:55,860 easy for us to say, China, this China that we're generalizing, 758 00:47:55,860 --> 00:47:58,770 we don't really know. I mean, I know a few Chinese people and 759 00:47:58,770 --> 00:48:02,070 Chinese Americans are wonderful Americans in general, that I 760 00:48:02,070 --> 00:48:06,960 know. And this is really the regime and the state who kind of 761 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,340 run the show. So and when we say, China, the Chinese it's, 762 00:48:11,370 --> 00:48:15,240 you know, it's not necessarily the people themselves, but the, 763 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:16,380 the regime. 764 00:48:17,370 --> 00:48:20,280 And let me put so okay, I'm glad you brought that up. Because I'm 765 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:25,350 gonna put some context to the now just spoke with one person 766 00:48:25,950 --> 00:48:31,200 to the Chinese perspective on this whole thing. Yeah. Which is 767 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,280 needed. They don't, they don't say anything politically out 768 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,230 loud. This is totally foreign to them. The reason why I know this 769 00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:42,840 is this guy, I worked with he the Chinese guy, and we taught 770 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,630 basketball. I mean, I mean, like, literally taught, you 771 00:48:45,630 --> 00:48:49,110 know, the ins and outs of teams, moves, transactions, all those 772 00:48:49,110 --> 00:48:52,590 things. And I asked him, I was walking down the hall, and I 773 00:48:52,590 --> 00:48:57,390 asked him, I said, Hey, what is your take on this whole Chinese 774 00:48:57,390 --> 00:49:03,240 NBA thing? He got to a quiet Hush. Because he was like, we 775 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:07,170 don't we don't talk about those things. Yeah. I mean, he was 776 00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:09,900 dead. I mean, we were laughing y'all about, you know, the 777 00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:14,220 Lakers, the clippers, you know, just in a casual conversation, 778 00:49:14,220 --> 00:49:18,540 but I just wanted to get some no context, right? This is totally 779 00:49:18,540 --> 00:49:24,240 foreign for somebody to come out and make a political stance. And 780 00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:27,930 by the end, that's why it really hits with a certain magnitude 781 00:49:28,170 --> 00:49:30,300 over there that we can't understand. 782 00:49:30,509 --> 00:49:33,419 And by the same token, you mentioned at the beginning of 783 00:49:33,419 --> 00:49:37,199 the show, that if you turn off basketball, will the Chinese 784 00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:40,469 revolt like we would hear in the States for for you know, if the 785 00:49:40,469 --> 00:49:44,129 NFL just shut off? And there are no more games? I'm not so sure I 786 00:49:44,789 --> 00:49:48,149 that's the part that I'm fuzzy on is will that mean? It's 787 00:49:48,149 --> 00:49:52,799 possible and if there's 490 million people who stood up and 788 00:49:52,799 --> 00:49:57,059 say, forget the regime's pressing us and forgetting you, 789 00:49:57,269 --> 00:50:01,259 locking people up, we want our MBA be, it would certainly be 790 00:50:01,259 --> 00:50:04,319 enough people. But would the Chinese government stand for it? 791 00:50:04,349 --> 00:50:05,309 I don't know. I 792 00:50:06,540 --> 00:50:11,010 think it would be so huge. That it'd be something that that can 793 00:50:11,010 --> 00:50:11,940 sweep under the rug. 794 00:50:11,970 --> 00:50:16,350 Oh, man, if you could overturn a communist regime because of 795 00:50:16,350 --> 00:50:18,570 basketball, that would be phenomenal. 796 00:50:20,070 --> 00:50:24,240 Well, didn't the basketball negotiate with a communist 797 00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:25,410 communist regime? 798 00:50:26,430 --> 00:50:28,170 Why yes, I think you're right. 799 00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:33,810 I mean, it's not far fetched. Yeah. All right. It's not far 800 00:50:33,810 --> 00:50:37,890 fetched at all, because we don't understand. I don't think I can 801 00:50:37,890 --> 00:50:41,730 say football, if you were to say and I want to give just as an 802 00:50:41,730 --> 00:50:43,650 anecdotal example, 803 00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:50,790 football, gambling was illegal in America. Period. 804 00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:55,770 But when they brought about fantasy football, that changed 805 00:50:55,830 --> 00:50:58,830 everything, right. And it was like a couple of states that 806 00:50:58,830 --> 00:51:02,580 tried to ban and make fantasy football illegal, right. And 807 00:51:02,580 --> 00:51:07,170 they got so much mail the two senators and representatives of 808 00:51:07,170 --> 00:51:11,250 that all those two states got so much mail that they had to back 809 00:51:11,250 --> 00:51:15,120 down and that really kicked the door down for sports gambling to 810 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:20,250 be accepted. In America isn't in total now. Come if you watch 811 00:51:20,250 --> 00:51:22,770 sports shows happen to show us about the lines. 812 00:51:22,860 --> 00:51:25,200 I know it's so annoying. 813 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:29,160 Yeah, something but it's an investment. It's an investment 814 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,390 to it is what it is. 815 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,290 I understand. Yeah. The the sports betting is its national 816 00:51:34,290 --> 00:51:34,920 pastime. 817 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:40,560 Right. But it came out of the causes. Due to fantasy football. 818 00:51:40,590 --> 00:51:43,530 Gotcha. Fantasy Football was the Ellen of sports game. 819 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,107 All right, Moe. I gotcha. We've offended everybody. All right. 820 00:51:49,165 --> 00:51:50,160 Let's go. Oh, no. 821 00:51:51,450 --> 00:51:55,470 Oh, let's see. So I want to introduce and small new segment 822 00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:58,860 to the show, there's gonna be a probably a reoccurring theme. 823 00:51:58,950 --> 00:52:02,460 Not that frequent, because it doesn't happen that often. But 824 00:52:02,460 --> 00:52:07,140 it's called when keeping it real goes wrong. And just to give 825 00:52:07,140 --> 00:52:10,170 some background what that is, that is when somebody tells the 826 00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:17,010 unmitigated truth, regardless of the fact and really, that's what 827 00:52:17,010 --> 00:52:21,090 del Moray did, but we have a host on the same segment from 828 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:28,830 speaking your own for Speak for yourself. He goes total. Keeping 829 00:52:28,830 --> 00:52:31,410 it real goes wrong, but let's get the jingle first. You are 830 00:52:31,410 --> 00:52:31,950 watching 831 00:52:31,950 --> 00:52:34,140 when keeping it real goes wrong. 832 00:52:37,590 --> 00:52:41,970 Alright, 7017 833 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,110 Okay, yeah. 834 00:52:44,670 --> 00:52:46,710 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 835 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,240 I'm out of order. Yeah, you 836 00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:50,220 did just skip one, but I just wanted to let you go. 837 00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:51,990 Okay, no, no. 838 00:52:52,590 --> 00:52:56,580 So Mr. Curry, this is where I had a beef with you. Because you 839 00:52:56,580 --> 00:53:01,740 start you came on my turf, sir. I know. I was sitting back on my 840 00:53:01,740 --> 00:53:06,540 Sunday afternoon getting ready for the football game. And I 841 00:53:06,540 --> 00:53:08,010 hear this. 842 00:53:08,970 --> 00:53:14,100 Nike is in control of basketball, the NBA college 843 00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:19,680 basketball High School. Nike is the real person driving this 844 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,630 conversation in this thing with China. If you go back to now I'm 845 00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:30,990 connected to politics in 2015. In May of 2015, President Barack 846 00:53:30,990 --> 00:53:36,210 Obama went to Nikes headquarters in Portland, Oregon, yes, and 847 00:53:36,210 --> 00:53:42,300 announced his defense of the TPP Trans Pacific Partnership. 848 00:53:42,330 --> 00:53:46,170 That's a trade deal that was gonna be very favorable for Nike 849 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:52,530 for China, who's the president that came after Obama and walked 850 00:53:52,530 --> 00:53:59,820 America away from the TPP Dawn Donald Trump, who is the shoe 851 00:53:59,820 --> 00:54:04,500 company that employs LeBron James Colin Kaepernick and these 852 00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:10,200 other athletes that smear Donald Trump is racist. Who are the 853 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:16,500 people constantly criticizing Donald Trump? NBA, Steve Kerr, 854 00:54:16,590 --> 00:54:22,740 Gregg Popovich, the NBA answers to Nike Nikes a $40 billion 855 00:54:23,070 --> 00:54:27,540 business. The NBA is an $8 billion business. President 856 00:54:27,540 --> 00:54:31,530 Obama, the basketball President friendly relationship with the 857 00:54:31,530 --> 00:54:37,440 NBA went to Nikes headquarters to announce his defense of the 858 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,720 TPP this thing is very simple. This is about money. This is 859 00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:46,620 about a president that won't cooperate with what Nike wants 860 00:54:46,620 --> 00:54:52,200 done. Nike is using the NBA and its leverage over the NBA to go 861 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,250 after this guy because they disagree with him about his 862 00:54:56,250 --> 00:54:59,520 policies as it relates to trade in China. 863 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,070 So Jason Whitlock, who I mean, I follow him, and I didn't even 864 00:55:05,070 --> 00:55:08,760 see this on fox sports one it was I don't watch a lot of Fox 865 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:13,140 actually. But this came on a show that I watch. And I would 866 00:55:13,140 --> 00:55:16,860 say he needs to avoid small aviation hot tubs don't canoe 867 00:55:16,860 --> 00:55:19,860 anywhere in DC. You know, there's a lot of things, you 868 00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:22,830 know, be careful, no firearms in the house, you can get to to the 869 00:55:22,830 --> 00:55:25,860 head and the gun in your left hand. And there's a lot of money 870 00:55:25,860 --> 00:55:31,020 at stake for him to be exposing this. But holy mackerel, even I 871 00:55:31,050 --> 00:55:34,950 hadn't made the Obama Nike TPP connection. And when Obama was 872 00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:38,310 there, went back and listened to his speech. He was saying how 873 00:55:38,310 --> 00:55:41,970 has great because, you know, finally Vietnam will have, you 874 00:55:41,970 --> 00:55:45,750 know, will will be held to account Vietnam is, I mean, it's 875 00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:48,780 not a huge competitor, but definitely a competitor to China 876 00:55:48,780 --> 00:55:53,730 when it comes to manufacturing. So it was so obvious that that 877 00:55:53,970 --> 00:55:56,250 Obama was the DICOM. President. 878 00:55:57,810 --> 00:56:03,000 So yeah, and the thing is that Speak for yourself is on Fox. 879 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,790 And that's why I was mentioning earlier in the show is one of 880 00:56:05,790 --> 00:56:10,230 the outlets where you can get a real fair assessment on this 881 00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:13,110 whole situation, because they don't have any skin in the game. 882 00:56:15,210 --> 00:56:16,710 We've seen that 883 00:56:16,830 --> 00:56:20,340 yet. Not yet. Not yet. But I'll tell you when you're talking 884 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,630 40 $50 billion a year. And in these industries, maybe more. 885 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,830 You know, Jason Whitlock got a call, believe me, he got a call 886 00:56:28,830 --> 00:56:32,190 from someone somewhere, probably not from his own network. 887 00:56:33,210 --> 00:56:37,560 And you know what, because Nike is tied in with the NFL as well, 888 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:42,390 bingo. And the NFL has deals with Fox and go, bingo. So you 889 00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:46,680 are exactly right. And this is one of the cases of keeping it 890 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,610 get real goes wrong. And this is a new segment that I would like 891 00:56:50,610 --> 00:56:51,690 to bring to the show 892 00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:54,630 you're watching. Keeping it real goes wrong. 893 00:56:56,250 --> 00:56:57,450 Just through your jingling again. 894 00:56:58,260 --> 00:57:02,100 Yes. So keep it at gear goes wrong. Just let me explain what 895 00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:05,280 that is. That is when you tell the unmitigated truth, 896 00:57:05,730 --> 00:57:10,260 regardless of the consequences are you doing, you know, you go 897 00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:13,650 with your gut, no matter what the consequence is, and we've 898 00:57:13,650 --> 00:57:17,310 seen that with Jason Whitlock. And we see that and this net 899 00:57:17,310 --> 00:57:19,740 clip on Jason Whitlock show you are 900 00:57:19,740 --> 00:57:23,310 upon I hate to break this news to you. You are I don't play 901 00:57:23,310 --> 00:57:27,120 chess you are you are a pawn and you're upon because you are 902 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,240 leverageable, you're a leverageable asset. All right. 903 00:57:30,510 --> 00:57:34,200 You're a leverageable asset. I'm a leverageable asset, what is a 904 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:38,280 leveraged leverageable asset. If we are no longer 11 leverageable 905 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,630 asset to Fox, we are no longer welcome at Fox. That's the 906 00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:45,480 bottom line. If you don't bring that value, if you don't bring a 907 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,570 tremendous value for what their causes and their business model 908 00:57:48,570 --> 00:57:52,710 is. You're you're not going to be here. The same goes for what 909 00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:55,620 we're talking about right now. So when you're talking about, 910 00:57:55,770 --> 00:57:59,340 you know, are these guys pawns for this political game? Of 911 00:57:59,340 --> 00:58:00,030 course they are. 912 00:58:00,180 --> 00:58:06,570 Mm huh. Political but you know, who, you know, who are not 913 00:58:06,570 --> 00:58:10,410 pawns? Adam? We're not pawns? 914 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,738 No, no, of course we're not. I'm thinking like, wait a minute, 915 00:58:13,791 --> 00:58:17,089 who else is not a pawn besides, yes, we're not pawns, which is 916 00:58:17,142 --> 00:58:20,387 why we're doing a podcast Moe and why we're not on Fox, which 917 00:58:20,441 --> 00:58:23,845 is why we asked people to donate to the show, as he even brought 918 00:58:23,898 --> 00:58:26,984 up the word value. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. And we That's 919 00:58:27,037 --> 00:58:30,335 exactly right. Actually, thank you for mentioning that. That's 920 00:58:30,388 --> 00:58:33,633 our system value for value we'll talk about at the end of the 921 00:58:33,687 --> 00:58:37,144 show. But yeah, yeah, you got so Yeah, where's the value of these 922 00:58:37,198 --> 00:58:39,060 guys now? And how does it stack up? 923 00:58:40,140 --> 00:58:43,380 So that is an example I'll keep it in when keeping it real goes 924 00:58:43,380 --> 00:58:46,920 wrong. And that was levar Arrington a former football 925 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,880 player, I mean, stellar football player. And he called Jason 926 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,720 Whitlock upon on his own show. Yeah. So we will not probably be 927 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:54,960 here. 928 00:58:56,490 --> 00:58:59,340 Nope. anymore. Thanks for dropping by. 929 00:59:00,030 --> 00:59:03,060 Yeah, it took courage. Yeah, it took it took a lot of courage. 930 00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:10,530 So with the help of you, and Jason, we have identified Nike 931 00:59:10,590 --> 00:59:16,140 as the main culprit, even behind bigger than the NBA. I mean, the 932 00:59:16,140 --> 00:59:17,070 T, the NBA, 933 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,370 the TPP that, that he referred to the Trans Pacific 934 00:59:20,370 --> 00:59:23,400 Partnership. I never liked because it was kind of the 935 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,130 secret of document, you couldn't find the whole thing. There's 936 00:59:26,130 --> 00:59:27,960 all these different countries and everyone had their own 937 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,170 agenda. And it seemed like anything that leaked out, only 938 00:59:31,170 --> 00:59:33,390 showed it was corporate interest. You know, make sure 939 00:59:33,390 --> 00:59:36,810 this cheese can only be from this region. Otherwise it can't 940 00:59:36,810 --> 00:59:39,510 be called that cheese. I mean, this kind of dumb stuff like the 941 00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:42,540 European Union has. And I just didn't like it offhand. Because 942 00:59:42,540 --> 00:59:46,500 it wasn't transparent. And but it was a big deal. I mean, this 943 00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:50,100 is the EU still talks about it. This is not something to be 944 00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:53,160 overlooked. Oh, just some little, little funky thing. I 945 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,400 mean, this was huge. And yeah, Trump pretty much immediately 946 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,080 said no, I'll have none of it. 947 00:59:59,610 --> 01:00:06,000 Now Oh, when I heard this clip, my forehead went home. I just 948 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,870 watched this Bob just want to have asked a question. Did Trump 949 01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:13,620 use the TPP as a leveraging tool to get this deal that he has 950 01:00:13,620 --> 01:00:14,370 with China now? 951 01:00:16,740 --> 01:00:20,850 Oh, I I would think so. Yeah, why not make sense? 952 01:00:22,290 --> 01:00:26,100 Oh, crush this thing where you got to on the back end? You 953 01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:28,050 know, you got it, you know, saying give me a better deal. 954 01:00:28,350 --> 01:00:33,180 Yeah. Because the TPP actually hurt China. My understanding? 955 01:00:33,210 --> 01:00:33,570 Oh, yeah. That's 956 01:00:33,570 --> 01:00:37,320 the whole point. That was the whole the right. Well, no, wait 957 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,360 a minute. I'm sorry. Let me take that back. 958 01:00:39,420 --> 01:00:41,970 Because we're in Vietnam. Wouldn't Vietnam get all the 959 01:00:41,970 --> 01:00:45,150 Chinese business? This would hurt China? That's what yeah, 960 01:00:45,150 --> 01:00:47,880 that's what I said. So what you said, okay, yeah, it would hurt. 961 01:00:47,970 --> 01:00:51,030 It would hurt China. And so he's like, Hey, I got this thing over 962 01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:51,510 here 963 01:00:52,230 --> 01:00:56,580 that I can ignore. And, you know, 964 01:00:57,029 --> 01:01:01,019 not like, it's not be a headache to even try to attack it. And 965 01:01:01,019 --> 01:01:04,349 it'll kill you guys. But if you give me a better deal, it's a 966 01:01:04,349 --> 01:01:05,429 win win for both of us. 967 01:01:05,490 --> 01:01:08,970 Oh, oh, yeah, I'm just shut up now. Because I don't want to be 968 01:01:08,970 --> 01:01:10,920 from the future. Okay. I'm just listening. 969 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,870 I'm just throwing that out there. So okay, so. So we see 970 01:01:15,870 --> 01:01:19,350 with Nike, we've already identified Nike, as the culprit 971 01:01:19,380 --> 01:01:22,020 behind the NFL and the China. You know, they're the big 972 01:01:22,020 --> 01:01:26,910 player, and their biggest player, and Mr. Lebron James. 973 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:31,320 And they have empowered Mr. LeBron James, to be more than an 974 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:31,890 athlete. 975 01:01:38,250 --> 01:01:41,250 Never let someone put you in a box and tell you, this is what 976 01:01:41,250 --> 01:01:47,970 you should do. And this is only what you should do. Basketball 977 01:01:47,970 --> 01:01:51,330 is a huge thing of mine. But I think my responsibility is so 978 01:01:51,330 --> 01:01:56,970 much bigger than that. Who knows who's the next great leader and 979 01:01:56,970 --> 01:02:00,150 where they are. My job is to inspire the youth for when they 980 01:02:00,150 --> 01:02:02,430 have those dreams, they believe that they can make those dreams 981 01:02:02,490 --> 01:02:07,860 come true. I think it's my responsibility to be more than 982 01:02:07,860 --> 01:02:08,190 that. 983 01:02:11,460 --> 01:02:12,210 Man, 984 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,270 kids hearts, they're gonna break all across the country. 985 01:02:16,830 --> 01:02:22,560 So this is a they did a whole campaign with Lebron James. This 986 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,550 was a five minute video on YouTube. But I think it was part 987 01:02:26,550 --> 01:02:30,690 of a longer video for the campaign and he actually did a 988 01:02:30,690 --> 01:02:36,420 world tour. And on that war tour, he stopped in Beijing. And 989 01:02:36,450 --> 01:02:40,740 in that five minute video, he spoke with this young Chinese 990 01:02:40,740 --> 01:02:44,550 girl. Now, Adam, I know you are multilingual. 991 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,750 Yeah. Okay. You brush up on my Mandarin. 992 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,520 Yes. So I want to see if you can guess the translation on this 993 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:54,060 next clip. 994 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,640 Oh, so this is an ask Adam. Is that what you're doing here? 995 01:02:56,700 --> 01:02:57,600 Yes, yes, I 996 01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:13,860 got my jingle Hola. You get too easy. LeBron is the man I heard 997 01:03:13,860 --> 01:03:14,640 it right there. 998 01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:20,790 You are so close. 999 01:03:22,260 --> 01:03:24,900 I knew I couldn't be far off. What was it? Exactly. 1000 01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:28,350 There's that translation. And this is from the subtitles of 1001 01:03:28,350 --> 01:03:37,410 this. For most of the fans. He is a real leader. Now go back to 1002 01:03:37,410 --> 01:03:42,150 the question I asked you before you have Lebron James. And you 1003 01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:46,590 should have seen the scores of people following him like he's 1004 01:03:46,590 --> 01:03:51,360 Jesus Christ Himself. Sure, sure. So if a LeBron James says 1005 01:03:51,390 --> 01:03:52,800 I stand with Taiwan, 1006 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,470 woof Yeah, he can't say that. 1007 01:03:58,830 --> 01:04:02,430 You understand, of course, understood shot. The Chinese 1008 01:04:02,490 --> 01:04:07,320 understands what's at risk here. Yeah. They understand the power 1009 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:13,110 of propaganda and athletes being used for propaganda. But as you 1010 01:04:13,110 --> 01:04:19,260 know, part of this show is about history. We've seen this before 1011 01:04:19,290 --> 01:04:23,340 athletes being used as propaganda, one of them being 1012 01:04:23,340 --> 01:04:26,340 Mr. Brown bomber himself, Joe Lewis. 1013 01:04:33,030 --> 01:04:37,680 It was April 1938. The fear of war in Europe was very real when 1014 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,620 Max Schmeling arrived in New York aboard the German liner the 1015 01:04:40,620 --> 01:04:43,650 Bremen for his second bout against the World Heavyweight 1016 01:04:43,650 --> 01:04:49,650 Champion, Joe Lewis. Lewis had already successfully defended 1017 01:04:49,650 --> 01:04:52,950 his world title three times. But this fight was billed as the 1018 01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:56,910 Nazis versus freedom with Joe Lewis carrying nothing less than 1019 01:04:56,910 --> 01:04:58,770 the fate of the world on his shoulders. 1020 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,650 And, in fact, the Nazi press was appalled at the extent to which 1021 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,670 the American press were turtling Schmeling into an assay, it was 1022 01:05:08,670 --> 01:05:13,650 creating anti German feeling unnecessarily. And this was not 1023 01:05:13,770 --> 01:05:16,710 I mean, the put it into a context this is not what Hitler 1024 01:05:16,710 --> 01:05:17,100 wanted. 1025 01:05:19,350 --> 01:05:22,800 Even the White House got involved. Franklin D. Roosevelt 1026 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,050 had maintained a regular correspondence with Max 1027 01:05:25,050 --> 01:05:28,320 Schmeling in the early 30s and even supported him against the 1028 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:34,440 Lithuanian American Jack Sharkey in 1932. But by 1938, all that 1029 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:35,310 had changed. 1030 01:05:38,190 --> 01:05:44,040 1938 Roosevelt asked Louis to come to the White House, and now 1031 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,790 like to slap his muscles around and said, We need muscles like 1032 01:05:47,790 --> 01:05:53,880 this to defeat Nazi Germany. This was in 38, three years, 1033 01:05:54,330 --> 01:05:57,810 three and a half years before we entered the war. But the 1034 01:05:57,810 --> 01:06:00,090 atmosphere was very much that at that, 1035 01:06:00,300 --> 01:06:03,750 Max Schmeling was was a very terrific boxer. He was not a 1036 01:06:03,750 --> 01:06:07,500 Nazi. Certainly he was a German and in those days, any German 1037 01:06:07,500 --> 01:06:12,000 was considered a Nazi. I think Adolf Hitler used Mac's mailing 1038 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,870 in terms of the political propaganda just as Franklin 1039 01:06:15,870 --> 01:06:19,920 Roosevelt used my father. These were two strong, powerful men 1040 01:06:20,220 --> 01:06:23,160 representing two strong, powerful countries. And 1041 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,340 obviously the outcome was significant for both countries. 1042 01:06:29,310 --> 01:06:32,910 Man, this is perfect. Now of course, I'm thinking of the 1043 01:06:32,910 --> 01:06:38,160 Rocky movies. There's a whole bunch of different things, but 1044 01:06:39,810 --> 01:06:45,360 I didn't know this about Joe. Yeah, Joe Lewis was 1045 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:51,030 I know, I know what he did for hero. He I know he integrate he 1046 01:06:51,030 --> 01:06:54,660 desegregated golf. I know that that's typical for me to know 1047 01:06:54,660 --> 01:06:57,090 that and not know about this Nazi thing that that's 1048 01:06:57,090 --> 01:06:57,930 fantastic. 1049 01:06:58,530 --> 01:07:02,070 And not only that, but that's why i Lee caught so much flak. 1050 01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:06,060 Right. Right. Right, because they wanted to use him because 1051 01:07:06,090 --> 01:07:09,690 Joe Lewis went around he did. He actually joined the military, 1052 01:07:10,050 --> 01:07:15,210 the exhibition fights and donated his persons to the to 1053 01:07:15,210 --> 01:07:21,330 the troops. And get his the kicking ass though Adam. He did 1054 01:07:21,330 --> 01:07:26,310 all of that. And the RS charged him and ruin him over the money 1055 01:07:26,310 --> 01:07:31,620 that he went and donated the purses to the military. Really, 1056 01:07:32,220 --> 01:07:36,240 because what happened was the checks were made out to him. He 1057 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,440 takes the size the check over to the military charities, 1058 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,580 whatever, but he had to pay counted as he's writing. Yeah, 1059 01:07:44,610 --> 01:07:47,970 but it was money he never had. And it actually ruined him. 1060 01:07:48,090 --> 01:07:53,340 Yeah. And he's in his life. And then the saw Yeah, so that was 1061 01:07:53,340 --> 01:07:59,460 just a little note history, but he is not the only one. Do you 1062 01:07:59,460 --> 01:08:01,500 know of Jesse Owens? 1063 01:08:03,150 --> 01:08:05,490 Jesse Owens, the runner. Yes. 1064 01:08:05,490 --> 01:08:10,260 Jesse Owens, the runner. He was also used as a symbol American 1065 01:08:10,260 --> 01:08:12,900 symbol. Well, that gets Hitler right. Well, 1066 01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:16,320 yes, this of course I remember because I was there. Now. He 1067 01:08:17,790 --> 01:08:20,370 This is very famous. And you know, I think we've all grown up 1068 01:08:20,370 --> 01:08:22,500 seeing the black and white footage of him just going like a 1069 01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:28,680 bat out of hell. And this was the the Olympic Games it was at 1070 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,910 Munich. No. Yeah, it was the Berlin Berlin Berlin Berlin. 1071 01:08:33,599 --> 01:08:35,879 It was actually in Germany. Yeah. In front of Hitler. That 1072 01:08:35,879 --> 01:08:39,269 was why it made so iconic. But I mean him being 1073 01:08:39,719 --> 01:08:42,239 and look at look at America. Hey, send a black over there, 1074 01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:45,779 man. You never know it's nobody. Is Hitler let 1075 01:08:45,780 --> 01:08:52,200 him go. Right. So American wise as they did a comical but 1076 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,070 factual take on the Jesse Owens versus Hitler. 1077 01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:01,740 In 1936. The Olympics were in, in Germany in Berlin, Germany. 1078 01:09:03,570 --> 01:09:07,680 is 36 and the Nazis are running the show, right? And then we sat 1079 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:12,600 over Jesse Owens, the fastest man alive. Yeah, he was like a 1080 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,800 secret weapon in 36 games. So Jesse goes to the Olympics in 1081 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:22,380 1936 and suits up. Now here's a sidebar. Not all Germans were 1082 01:09:22,380 --> 01:09:25,710 Nazis. Okay. There was some good yeah, there was just one dude 1083 01:09:25,740 --> 01:09:30,240 named eight off to not eight off like to eight off as well. 1084 01:09:31,290 --> 01:09:35,430 Anyway, his name was Adolf Dassler, and he just wanted to 1085 01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:38,040 he didn't want to kill people and be a Nazi. He just wanted to 1086 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,500 make shoes. That's what his parents did. His parents made 1087 01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:43,110 shoes. He wanted to make shoes. And at night when everybody 1088 01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:45,600 would go to sleep paid off Dassler him and his brother was 1089 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,110 in the kitchen. He would cook up a batch of track shoe is before 1090 01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:53,250 you could like cook up mess. So Adolf Dassler he and his 1091 01:09:53,250 --> 01:09:55,320 brother, they're in the shoe business and they know they need 1092 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,350 somebody famous to wear their shoes to get more people to buy. 1093 01:09:58,500 --> 01:10:01,980 So Adolf Dassler gets into straw and he drives down to Berlin and 1094 01:10:01,980 --> 01:10:05,910 he introduces himself Jesse Owens. He's like, hey, Jesse. My 1095 01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:08,610 name is Adolph and if you would wear my track shoes, I'd be 1096 01:10:08,610 --> 01:10:11,580 very, very happy. And you don't even have to call me eight off 1097 01:10:11,580 --> 01:10:15,780 all my good friends call me adi. That's my nickname Adi Adi das 1098 01:10:15,780 --> 01:10:17,970 law. In fact, if the company goes, We're not going to call it 1099 01:10:17,970 --> 01:10:20,490 Adi das law. We're gonna like tighten that up. Just call it 1100 01:10:20,490 --> 01:10:25,740 Adi Das. So yeah, that's where that got started. 1101 01:10:25,860 --> 01:10:29,550 Oh, man, the minute I heard the name, like, of course, Adidas. 1102 01:10:29,550 --> 01:10:33,780 And who knew that was the first shoe endorsement? I guess? 1103 01:10:34,260 --> 01:10:37,650 It's all about the shoes, baby. Wow, Ma Ma, ma 1104 01:10:37,650 --> 01:10:42,660 ma. I'm just gonna ring my bell for you, man. Nice. We have the 1105 01:10:42,660 --> 01:10:48,240 origin of shoe endorsements, going back to 1936. 1106 01:10:48,930 --> 01:10:54,540 Yes. X, how'd you find out about that? And I knew 1107 01:10:54,690 --> 01:10:58,980 about Jesse Owens. But I also learned that and I learned while 1108 01:10:58,980 --> 01:11:04,800 doing this show. And we see China understands. And as the 1109 01:11:05,370 --> 01:11:11,850 crisis manager says, China has a very long memory. So they said, 1110 01:11:11,850 --> 01:11:15,990 Hey, we've seen these guys, Americans use these athletes and 1111 01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:20,040 know as symbols of freedom of democracy. 1112 01:11:21,210 --> 01:11:22,500 Are people look at? 1113 01:11:23,460 --> 01:11:26,040 What was that quote? Little girl? I mean, getting her exact 1114 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,750 words. Oh, she said leader that's for for most fans. He's a 1115 01:11:30,750 --> 01:11:32,910 real leader. The key word is real 1116 01:11:32,910 --> 01:11:35,760 leader. Ooh. Yes. Yes. Yes. 1117 01:11:36,570 --> 01:11:40,260 So if you had a LeBron James and one thing we haven't talked 1118 01:11:40,260 --> 01:11:43,440 about this, LeBron James was actually in China playing 1119 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:47,370 basketball when this tweet went out. So 1120 01:11:48,540 --> 01:11:53,430 in essence, LeBron James could stand up for the live game in 1121 01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:54,450 China and say, 1122 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,740 Hey, these guys suck. Your 1123 01:11:58,740 --> 01:12:02,910 government's no good. Jesus douche. And the people would 1124 01:12:02,910 --> 01:12:06,000 frown probably do something about it. 1125 01:12:07,470 --> 01:12:09,090 At least the young ones? Yeah. 1126 01:12:09,540 --> 01:12:14,100 It were called a real Fisher. Yes. And they're in their 1127 01:12:15,060 --> 01:12:17,130 control mechanism. They have oh, they're people. 1128 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,700 So this explains that China is not just retaliating, they may 1129 01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:23,010 be extremely worried about this stuff. 1130 01:12:25,740 --> 01:12:30,240 Yeah. Which is the reason why they were hyper aggressive. Like 1131 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,360 I said, it's bigger than money is one thing. That's not That's 1132 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:37,290 not to say we're not let's not poopoo the money. That's why I 1133 01:12:37,290 --> 01:12:41,610 said this story has so many levels to there. You have the 1134 01:12:41,610 --> 01:12:43,560 money you had to political implications you had to 1135 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:49,590 propaganda applications. But with all that said, we go back 1136 01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:56,220 to the hypocrisy. Because there was a was the lady named from 1137 01:12:56,220 --> 01:12:56,910 Fox. 1138 01:13:00,810 --> 01:13:05,190 Nora named this is clear as day the blonde lady, Laura 1139 01:13:05,190 --> 01:13:06,000 Ingraham, 1140 01:13:06,810 --> 01:13:07,860 Laura Ingraham. 1141 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,070 She is in group when I say Ingraham. 1142 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:17,400 She had a back and forth with Lebron, prior to this situation, 1143 01:13:17,850 --> 01:13:22,470 where she told him to shut up and dribble. And it was so much 1144 01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:25,890 to make made about it. He actually created a whole 1145 01:13:26,370 --> 01:13:30,450 production, a television show, with the same name called shut 1146 01:13:30,450 --> 01:13:31,170 up and dribble. 1147 01:13:32,490 --> 01:13:37,080 I would never have believed that we were ever going to end up in 1148 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:42,300 a situation where the woke era of the NBA and potentially the 1149 01:13:42,300 --> 01:13:48,180 woke era of sports in general, went to die in China. But I want 1150 01:13:48,180 --> 01:13:53,010 to start with what happened early this morning in China, the 1151 01:13:53,010 --> 01:13:58,770 NBA bit the knee, the NBA acquiesced to China, the NBA 1152 01:13:58,830 --> 01:14:03,750 shut up and dribble. China allowed the preseason game 1153 01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:08,820 between the Lakers and the 70 Sixers to take place. But the 1154 01:14:08,820 --> 01:14:13,950 preconditions required that no NBA players, coaches or 1155 01:14:13,950 --> 01:14:19,140 executives talk to the media before or after the game. As a 1156 01:14:19,140 --> 01:14:24,840 result, it is a literal truth that LeBron James who said I am 1157 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:29,280 more than a basketball player, LeBron James who said I will not 1158 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:34,950 shut up and dribble LeBron James shut up and dribble and took 1159 01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:39,600 communist inspired cash from China. In exchange for doing so. 1160 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,920 He didn't just shut up and dribble he shut up and dribbled 1161 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:48,840 for a mass murdering totalitarian regime with a 1162 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,830 million plus people in concentration camps right now. 1163 01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:57,000 He shut up and dribble in a country of 1.4 billion where 1164 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,570 they don't have basic freedoms, where they cannot I'd even get 1165 01:15:00,570 --> 01:15:03,780 on the internet and be able to read about the Tiananmen Square 1166 01:15:03,780 --> 01:15:06,840 Massacre because it has been blocked. They can't even get on 1167 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,710 Twitter because it doesn't exist in their country. And they can't 1168 01:15:10,740 --> 01:15:15,570 even use a basic form of Google because their minds are censored 1169 01:15:15,570 --> 01:15:19,260 and controlled by the government around them. LeBron James had no 1170 01:15:19,260 --> 01:15:23,400 problem with any of that. China said jump and he asked how high 1171 01:15:23,490 --> 01:15:28,170 China's said kneel and he asked how low Adam Silver. LeBron 1172 01:15:28,170 --> 01:15:33,210 James Gregg Popovich, Steve Kerr, all of them knelt at the 1173 01:15:33,210 --> 01:15:38,250 altar of the almighty dollar, and sold their souls in exchange 1174 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,820 for more cash when they already had a lot of cash. 1175 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,030 I wish that guy wouldn't hold back. He's sugarcoating it so 1176 01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:45,540 much. 1177 01:15:46,380 --> 01:15:51,120 So this is Clay Travis. He's a frequent correspondent on fox 1178 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:57,000 sports news. But this was all his own personal podcast. And 1179 01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:03,600 this is example of the hypocrisy coming back to bite. LeBron 1180 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:07,080 James in the ass. With this shut up and dribble. 1181 01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:10,980 Yep, he's just he's waiting for Wednesday, just waiting to blow 1182 01:16:10,980 --> 01:16:11,400 over. 1183 01:16:12,090 --> 01:16:15,960 So this is to be expected because this is chat clay 1184 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:22,350 Travers is left or right leaning. You know, so that is to 1185 01:16:22,350 --> 01:16:25,800 be expected because they're going to politicize or as they 1186 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:32,820 should. We you're in business. But he's also catching flack 1187 01:16:32,820 --> 01:16:37,650 from the liberal side as well. In the documentary I mentioned 1188 01:16:37,650 --> 01:16:43,080 before, shut up and dribble. The narrator was one miss Jamil 1189 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:43,590 Hill. 1190 01:16:43,890 --> 01:16:46,290 Oh, from ESPN, the one who hates Trump. 1191 01:16:48,750 --> 01:16:50,010 Yeah, so yes, 1192 01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,400 I caught a clip of Miss Jamil Hill being interviewed 1193 01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:57,780 on CNN, bringing 1194 01:16:57,930 --> 01:17:00,900 the Atlantic's Jamel Hill who just published an op ed arguing, 1195 01:17:01,110 --> 01:17:04,800 quote, The problem for the NBA is that this isn't just a free 1196 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,080 speech issue. This is a test to see whether the NBA has the 1197 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,630 stomach to fight for certain values. When doing so 1198 01:17:09,870 --> 01:17:13,410 compromises, business, unquote. Jamel an honor to have you here. 1199 01:17:13,410 --> 01:17:16,500 Thanks so much. How do you think the NBA and silver are handling 1200 01:17:16,500 --> 01:17:17,280 this test? 1201 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,180 Well, I think they're handling it very delicately. And I think 1202 01:17:21,180 --> 01:17:23,910 the original way that they sort of came out of this thing with 1203 01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:27,240 that statement where they refer to Houston, General Manager, 1204 01:17:27,570 --> 01:17:30,330 Daryl Morey his tweet as regrettable, it really raised a 1205 01:17:30,330 --> 01:17:33,270 lot of eyebrows. I mean, here's a league, that in large part is 1206 01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:36,330 considered to be among the more progressive, if not the most 1207 01:17:36,330 --> 01:17:40,080 progressive of all the major pro sports leagues. And for them to 1208 01:17:40,110 --> 01:17:43,230 seemingly back away and distance itself from one of its 1209 01:17:43,230 --> 01:17:46,410 employees, when it's kind of built that reputation. It was 1210 01:17:46,410 --> 01:17:49,680 very eye opening to a lot of people. And it looked as if the 1211 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:55,500 NBA was just content, to kind of kneel to China, so as not to 1212 01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:59,040 affect business and forgetting, and they forgot about the fact 1213 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,070 that, you know, they have players and coaches and other 1214 01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:04,620 league personnel that they've allowed to be vocal on a number 1215 01:18:04,620 --> 01:18:08,190 of political topics. So it would be very hypocritical for the NBA 1216 01:18:08,190 --> 01:18:10,410 to all of a sudden abandon those principles. 1217 01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:14,310 Wait a minute, does Jamel Hill still work for ESPN? Ie Disney? 1218 01:18:15,030 --> 01:18:15,660 No, she 1219 01:18:15,660 --> 01:18:21,060 No. Okay, that's why so she has an axe to grind. Kidding. 1220 01:18:21,090 --> 01:18:24,840 No kidding. Yeah. Well, she's right. She is 1221 01:18:24,839 --> 01:18:29,309 right. And it's like, oh, as people say, in common slang, 1222 01:18:29,939 --> 01:18:34,199 more recent slang keep the same energy. And what that means is 1223 01:18:34,229 --> 01:18:39,089 if you're going to be outraged on one topic, you can't go into 1224 01:18:39,089 --> 01:18:42,719 hiding. And the other topic, right? And we heard from the 1225 01:18:42,779 --> 01:18:46,289 Lebron James the previous clip, LeBron James himself said, I 1226 01:18:46,289 --> 01:18:49,799 won't allow myself to be put in a box. Where you have been put 1227 01:18:49,799 --> 01:18:56,039 been put in the box. The NBA silenced you. Yep, they Sonix 1228 01:18:56,039 --> 01:18:59,189 you. You can't make him say I'm sure it's like unofficial gag 1229 01:18:59,219 --> 01:19:03,149 order on NBA players, you know, saying, Oh, no. Make a 1230 01:19:03,149 --> 01:19:03,779 statement. 1231 01:19:03,780 --> 01:19:06,660 Yeah, no doubt be quiet. You like you'd like to check Shut 1232 01:19:06,660 --> 01:19:06,900 up. 1233 01:19:07,740 --> 01:19:11,220 But who's gonna be the Colin Kaepernick of the NBA? That's 1234 01:19:11,220 --> 01:19:14,520 the question. I mean, if you're so if you guys are so you know, 1235 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,260 willing to stand up for what's right, what you consider what's 1236 01:19:19,260 --> 01:19:20,640 right, who's gonna stand up for 1237 01:19:20,670 --> 01:19:24,270 and, and just for a moment there, you know, knowing about 1238 01:19:24,270 --> 01:19:30,480 this Nike connection. It also is very telling about why the NBA 1239 01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:32,400 by the NFL put up with Kaepernick at 1240 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:36,120 all. Yeah, 1241 01:19:36,450 --> 01:19:39,600 I'm sure the reaction wasn't because Nike is super woke. 1242 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,470 That's their brand. That's a big part of what they do. And they 1243 01:19:43,470 --> 01:19:46,590 and they clearly were supporting him. So there was probably some 1244 01:19:46,590 --> 01:19:49,320 conflict there that we didn't even think about at the time. 1245 01:19:50,010 --> 01:19:53,070 It was a weird conflict because the NFL really didn't make a 1246 01:19:53,070 --> 01:19:57,000 statement when they signed Colin Kaepernick to their 20 I think 1247 01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,850 was 20 year just do it campaign right exact they didn't really 1248 01:19:59,850 --> 01:20:02,010 say Anything they didn't say, Oh, we're gonna pool or 1249 01:20:02,010 --> 01:20:07,260 threatened the pool? No, no, no. The sports leagues are at the 1250 01:20:07,260 --> 01:20:12,930 behest of Nike. Yep. I mean, let's just be clear about that. 1251 01:20:13,830 --> 01:20:16,620 But Jamel Hill she continues on and clip two. 1252 01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:19,140 I think it's a little more nuanced than that. I mean, Sally 1253 01:20:19,140 --> 01:20:21,030 is definitely right, that there's a lot of American 1254 01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:23,940 businesses that do business in China, and they sort of hold 1255 01:20:23,940 --> 01:20:26,940 their nose as they write and receive checks. The difference 1256 01:20:26,940 --> 01:20:30,540 is how many of them have the social responsibility brand that 1257 01:20:30,540 --> 01:20:33,720 the NBA does keep in mind, Jake, that this is the same league who 1258 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,880 delayed having the all star game in Charlotte because of the 1259 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,550 controversial bathroom bill. This is the same league that 1260 01:20:38,550 --> 01:20:42,510 basically as Gregg Popovich, Steve Kerr, LeBron James, Steph 1261 01:20:42,510 --> 01:20:45,630 Curry, Kevin Durant, many of their players have been outright 1262 01:20:45,630 --> 01:20:49,350 critical of the president of the United States. And their entire 1263 01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:52,320 response has been, hey, let these guys say what they 1264 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,950 politically believe this is the same league where Commissioner 1265 01:20:55,950 --> 01:21:00,090 Adam Silver, was dancing at the gay pride parade on a float in 1266 01:21:00,090 --> 01:21:03,930 New York City. So they have made being socially responsible a 1267 01:21:03,930 --> 01:21:05,940 part of their brand. And that's why there's a different 1268 01:21:05,940 --> 01:21:07,050 expectation for them. 1269 01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:13,050 Oh, I love that social justice brand, and social responsibility 1270 01:21:13,470 --> 01:21:16,440 to homeless women write that down social response. Yeah, 1271 01:21:16,500 --> 01:21:19,800 that's good. Well, you know, yeah, yeah, go ahead. 1272 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,340 They put their self in our series box here. And they're 1273 01:21:23,340 --> 01:21:27,210 just seeming disingenuous, their actions that they're taking 1274 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,620 late, and they won't go all the way in and out. Fire D'Amore is 1275 01:21:31,620 --> 01:21:34,560 not making the Chinese fans happy. The fact that they won't 1276 01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,560 let their players say anything, or not making their liberal fans 1277 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:42,240 happy. And I'm sure the NBA will wish this will all just go away. 1278 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,240 And someone will take your saying take their attention 1279 01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,960 away. But no, not as long as like I said a lot as long as 1280 01:21:49,710 --> 01:21:52,740 politicians can politicize this, and I think you mentioned it in 1281 01:21:52,740 --> 01:21:56,370 one clip before you had AOC and Ted Cruz 1282 01:21:56,700 --> 01:22:01,620 working together. Yes. So 1283 01:22:01,650 --> 01:22:04,530 I mean, this issue says we're in a weird 1284 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,520 by now, you know, this, this fits one of my rules perfectly. 1285 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:13,410 And it's the Adam curry media boomerang rule. And, and I've 1286 01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:17,910 observed this, I've witnessed this for, you know, 35 years, 1287 01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:22,920 when you use the media, to promote something for your own 1288 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,010 gain financial or otherwise, but when you use it when you're out 1289 01:22:26,010 --> 01:22:31,260 there promoting and it's for your own gain. for unexplained 1290 01:22:31,260 --> 01:22:37,080 reasons of the cosmos, it always comes back at you with equal or 1291 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,830 stronger force, not necessarily immediately, it could be years 1292 01:22:40,830 --> 01:22:45,630 down the road, but it's just the nature of media, that if you're 1293 01:22:45,630 --> 01:22:49,620 using it, it'll turn around and bite you. It's a very fickle 1294 01:22:49,620 --> 01:22:50,070 lover. 1295 01:22:52,110 --> 01:22:57,420 And we see that often cast so so let's see here, Jamil, he'll 1296 01:22:57,420 --> 01:23:00,870 wrap up her take on on NFL NBA 1297 01:23:01,019 --> 01:23:03,869 is just surprising considering this is the league where 1298 01:23:03,869 --> 01:23:07,499 everybody has worn this outspoken label as long as it 1299 01:23:07,499 --> 01:23:09,809 draws them praise. But the moment it conflicts with 1300 01:23:09,809 --> 01:23:12,059 business, then everybody wants to get silent. 1301 01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:15,630 And very quickly if you could, LeBron James is in China right 1302 01:23:15,630 --> 01:23:19,110 now. We only have a few seconds, but do you think he should keep 1303 01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:20,610 his mouth shut on this? Or what do you think? 1304 01:23:21,540 --> 01:23:24,570 Well, I would be surprised if LeBron said anything because 1305 01:23:24,570 --> 01:23:26,910 again, they're looking at what happened as a result of this 1306 01:23:26,910 --> 01:23:30,120 Daryl Morey tweet if you're LeBron James, and you also are 1307 01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:33,240 an empire into yourself unto yourself. I would not be 1308 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,930 surprised if he were quiet. Now. What does that mean for somebody 1309 01:23:37,050 --> 01:23:40,230 who has this entire campaign called more than an athlete? I 1310 01:23:40,230 --> 01:23:40,740 don't know. 1311 01:23:43,500 --> 01:23:44,970 Yeah, yeah. 1312 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,720 I mean, the best thing could could please Could North Korea 1313 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,360 shoot off a missile or something? Anything to get me 1314 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:52,110 out of this? 1315 01:23:52,980 --> 01:23:53,880 Anything 1316 01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:59,010 can turn up the heat on on the impeachment. Yeah, something I 1317 01:23:59,010 --> 01:24:03,420 mean, and, and what's crazy is we're about to kick off the NBA 1318 01:24:03,420 --> 01:24:07,590 season here and another week or so. Oh, it's just gonna we're 1319 01:24:07,590 --> 01:24:10,380 right at that's why they were doing this China China Tour, 1320 01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:11,550 preseason. 1321 01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,200 Just wish header. So now, 1322 01:24:17,099 --> 01:24:19,739 before we get into this last segment of the show, 1323 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,770 why would Daryl Morey do this? 1324 01:24:24,990 --> 01:24:30,630 He understands the Chinese culture, because they had Yao 1325 01:24:30,630 --> 01:24:35,190 Ming bear for many, many years. play for the team. You know, 1326 01:24:35,190 --> 01:24:38,010 they had, you know, there was some understanding with the 1327 01:24:38,010 --> 01:24:43,050 Houston Rockets organization and the Chinese culture. 1328 01:24:43,440 --> 01:24:47,700 Why would he do this? And I don't have an answer for that. 1329 01:24:47,790 --> 01:24:50,970 I have a theory but I don't have an answer for that. What's your 1330 01:24:50,970 --> 01:24:51,420 theory? 1331 01:24:53,010 --> 01:25:01,710 Somebody put them up to wow, why would you Why That's the dumbest 1332 01:25:01,710 --> 01:25:04,560 thing you could do. Working for the NBA, 1333 01:25:04,620 --> 01:25:06,150 I mean, like the dummies? 1334 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,620 Well, the only thing I can imagine is, you got a call from 1335 01:25:10,620 --> 01:25:11,160 the President 1336 01:25:12,090 --> 01:25:13,200 to hook me up. 1337 01:25:14,610 --> 01:25:16,590 Do something naughty for me, because I'm in the middle of 1338 01:25:16,590 --> 01:25:19,290 negotiation. Don't worry, I'll make it right. And it could be 1339 01:25:19,290 --> 01:25:22,260 kind of fun. You know if we can smooth this over just in time 1340 01:25:22,260 --> 01:25:25,350 for the season to start. And Trump could come in and could 1341 01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:28,650 save the NBA from their horrible problems with the Chinese. 1342 01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:31,860 If we think about it, 1343 01:25:33,180 --> 01:25:36,540 being all winning, it's an $8 billion. Li Yeah, what's a 1344 01:25:36,540 --> 01:25:39,000 couple of billion dollars to write for the government to 1345 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,760 write a check to the NBA to get them out of bed with China? 1346 01:25:42,540 --> 01:25:43,440 Oh, man, 1347 01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:45,690 I have no idea. Well, not 1348 01:25:45,690 --> 01:25:48,240 that much money is not it's really I mean, we've got 1349 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,280 billions, but it's really not that much money. But 1350 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:54,090 ultimately, I mean, I have no problem with the NBA and then 1351 01:25:54,090 --> 01:25:56,010 making money. I think it's really good that we have some 1352 01:25:56,010 --> 01:25:58,860 transparency. And people understand that, Oh, hold on a 1353 01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:01,740 second. There's a lot, there's a lot deeper than I then I 1354 01:26:01,740 --> 01:26:05,880 realized, and maybe, maybe people will have a little more 1355 01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:10,350 clarity before they start worshipping sports heroes. But 1356 01:26:10,350 --> 01:26:14,070 in general, I think the idea is certainly from my perspective, 1357 01:26:14,430 --> 01:26:17,670 I'd love to can we get along with China? I mean, yeah, we 1358 01:26:17,670 --> 01:26:21,060 kill people who we have capital punishment, we do all kinds of 1359 01:26:21,060 --> 01:26:24,600 stuff, looking from the outside, it could look weird. You know, 1360 01:26:24,630 --> 01:26:27,870 we we have a brand that may not necessarily reflect our true 1361 01:26:27,870 --> 01:26:30,540 values. So it would be great if we could figure out a way to 1362 01:26:30,540 --> 01:26:34,380 smooth this over with China. So NBA can still continue. 1363 01:26:34,530 --> 01:26:39,150 Everybody can still make money. But the flip side is you got to 1364 01:26:39,150 --> 01:26:42,180 cut that shit out NBA in general, just stop with the 1365 01:26:42,180 --> 01:26:43,440 wokeness. play some 1366 01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:45,870 ball. Okay, I've 1367 01:26:45,900 --> 01:26:48,570 got my foil hat on. You got to know. 1368 01:26:51,300 --> 01:26:57,420 What was happening simultaneous to this how the whole event? 1369 01:26:58,590 --> 01:27:03,090 Well, we have the Chinese, the China negotiations, if that's 1370 01:27:03,090 --> 01:27:03,690 what you mean? 1371 01:27:04,290 --> 01:27:10,170 Yes. Wouldn't it work? Do you list for a distraction airy tool 1372 01:27:10,170 --> 01:27:13,590 for both sides, China and America? Say let's talk about 1373 01:27:13,590 --> 01:27:17,820 the NBA. Because I'm sure the deals that China may or may not 1374 01:27:17,820 --> 01:27:19,500 say I'm going way, we 1375 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,340 don't don't look at what we're doing with 5g and possible spy 1376 01:27:23,340 --> 01:27:28,140 networks being created NBA right now possible. 1377 01:27:28,170 --> 01:27:32,280 I haven't heard anything. I haven't heard anything. But a 1378 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,550 lot of people that are pro NBA are saying well, the players 1379 01:27:37,740 --> 01:27:40,620 shouldn't say anything. Because, you know, that's a global 1380 01:27:40,980 --> 01:27:44,820 happening in Hong Kong and you know, China, that's that's way 1381 01:27:44,820 --> 01:27:47,190 above their, you know, that now they're using the convenient 1382 01:27:47,190 --> 01:27:49,650 thing that's way above their pay grade. And yeah, they should 1383 01:27:49,650 --> 01:27:54,000 only talk about topics that they are educated about. Right. So 1384 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,700 we're gonna we're gonna do this little exercise here, Adam. All 1385 01:27:56,700 --> 01:28:00,630 right. What were some of the things that the Trump 1386 01:28:00,630 --> 01:28:04,710 administration and people around Trump have been criticized 1387 01:28:05,130 --> 01:28:08,730 by the liberals? 1388 01:28:11,610 --> 01:28:14,580 Well, I mean, you got to push me in the right direction. That 1389 01:28:15,150 --> 01:28:17,760 means that memes just name some of the top memes 1390 01:28:21,150 --> 01:28:24,450 Well, first of all, the President is not presidential. 1391 01:28:25,770 --> 01:28:28,110 Now, but that's not what you're looking for. You need to you 1392 01:28:28,110 --> 01:28:30,150 need to prod me along here. I'm not following. 1393 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:41,100 Okay. On the border? What was the mean? Oh, is we're putting 1394 01:28:41,100 --> 01:28:43,860 children in cages 26. 1395 01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:52,470 These kids must have been very, very naughty. Hi, I'm Chris 1396 01:28:52,470 --> 01:28:56,250 Chappell. And this is the run list. So you might be wondering, 1397 01:28:56,430 --> 01:29:01,500 what did these kids do to get locked inside a cage? Actually, 1398 01:29:01,500 --> 01:29:04,860 it's not what you think, unless what you're thinking is exactly 1399 01:29:04,860 --> 01:29:07,560 what I'm about to say in which case, I apologize for doubting 1400 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:11,040 you. So these two little girls, one is four and a half and the 1401 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,790 other is two are what are known as left behind children. 1402 01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,840 Basically, the way it works in China is that many parents have 1403 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:22,020 to leave the rural countryside to find work in the cities as 1404 01:29:22,020 --> 01:29:25,560 migrant workers and so their children are left behind. Some 1405 01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:29,160 parents only make it home about two or three times a year. You 1406 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,070 know how travel in China becomes a nightmare during the Chinese 1407 01:29:32,070 --> 01:29:36,840 New Year. This is why it's one of the few times a year people 1408 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:41,460 actually make it home. Good grief. So these kids are just 1409 01:29:41,460 --> 01:29:45,600 two of what some estimate to be more than 150 million left 1410 01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,900 behind children in China. That means grandma and grandpa have 1411 01:29:48,900 --> 01:29:51,600 to take care of them. And frankly, walking kids in a cage 1412 01:29:51,630 --> 01:29:55,440 is way easier for grants. But besides keeping the kids in one 1413 01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:58,230 place so they don't get lost or hurt. It also prevents them from 1414 01:29:58,230 --> 01:30:02,160 being kidnapped. The run Karen Chang recently did a story about 1415 01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,730 babies for sale in China. And the US just today released a 1416 01:30:05,730 --> 01:30:08,850 statement saying China's human trafficking is among the worst 1417 01:30:08,850 --> 01:30:12,720 in the world, right next to Iran and North Korea and Russia. US 1418 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,410 Representative Christmas said quote, China has become the sex 1419 01:30:16,410 --> 01:30:20,550 and labor trafficking capital of the world. So a big motivation 1420 01:30:20,550 --> 01:30:23,460 for the cage the granny says is to prevent her two little girls 1421 01:30:23,460 --> 01:30:26,880 from being kidnapped and sold a slave labor or sold into China's 1422 01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:28,350 booming sex industry. 1423 01:30:28,650 --> 01:30:32,070 Now telling me that was a podcast and not something on 1424 01:30:32,190 --> 01:30:34,980 mainstream that I don't think that would ever air would it? 1425 01:30:35,670 --> 01:30:40,110 Not that was a podcast, okay, well, bingo, Boom shakalaka. 1426 01:30:41,970 --> 01:30:46,440 So, and not only, and what we're saying here is this, if you're 1427 01:30:46,440 --> 01:30:51,330 going to be super woke, and what we're doing is we're going to 1428 01:30:51,330 --> 01:30:54,630 hold you to your own standard. I don't expect anybody in the NBA 1429 01:30:54,630 --> 01:30:58,650 that hasn't been outspoken and political, to say anything. 1430 01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,110 That's not what we're saying here. What have you got to be 1431 01:31:01,110 --> 01:31:04,830 critical? Do you have to keep that same energy? That's what 1432 01:31:04,830 --> 01:31:09,780 I'm saying. I criticize. If you criticize America, I mean, 1433 01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,170 America, we're putting kids in cages, then you have to 1434 01:31:13,170 --> 01:31:15,570 criticize the Chinese for putting kids in cages. And it's 1435 01:31:15,570 --> 01:31:16,860 pretty much for the same reason. 1436 01:31:17,130 --> 01:31:20,970 Well, and it may, there may be nuances to both, you know, we 1437 01:31:20,970 --> 01:31:25,110 know that we're not like really in dog cages at the border. And 1438 01:31:25,350 --> 01:31:28,350 I'm sure there's nuances to what kind of cages they keep them in. 1439 01:31:28,350 --> 01:31:30,000 And but yeah, 1440 01:31:30,030 --> 01:31:32,400 I mean, we're doing meme wars 1441 01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:36,210 name. Yeah. The meme is here. Yep. This is 1442 01:31:36,210 --> 01:31:42,030 memes here. Okay, so also on immigration. We've talked about 1443 01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,870 immigrants being second class citizens. Let's go to 28. 1444 01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,930 Fun, Jiang Mei moved to Beijing with her family more than 10 1445 01:31:48,930 --> 01:31:52,050 years ago. But she still feels like a virtual stranger in the 1446 01:31:52,050 --> 01:31:56,580 city. She now calls home fun holds a rural Hueco, a kind of 1447 01:31:56,580 --> 01:31:59,460 domestic passport that defines people's rights if they move 1448 01:31:59,460 --> 01:32:02,190 away from home rights, like where your children can be 1449 01:32:02,190 --> 01:32:05,400 educated, and three daughters having to move schools four 1450 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,350 times in the last few years. 1451 01:32:09,810 --> 01:32:12,750 Chinese citizens should have all the same rights and benefits 1452 01:32:12,780 --> 01:32:17,070 equally from public services. So that's the very least we can do 1453 01:32:17,070 --> 01:32:20,820 to acknowledge the contribution the migrant workforce has made 1454 01:32:21,030 --> 01:32:23,730 to transforming China in the last 30 years. 1455 01:32:24,060 --> 01:32:28,020 So there's your dreamers, your DACA kids? Yeah, this is, you 1456 01:32:28,020 --> 01:32:31,530 know, the more different we we seem, the more alike we are in 1457 01:32:31,530 --> 01:32:31,770 it. 1458 01:32:32,340 --> 01:32:36,660 That's that's the whole point of this exercise, sir. To show that 1459 01:32:36,660 --> 01:32:38,670 the elite no matter where they're at, 1460 01:32:39,510 --> 01:32:40,620 they'll throw your kids in 1461 01:32:40,620 --> 01:32:41,400 a cage. 1462 01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,940 Or treat you like I said, it's a second class citizen. And the 1463 01:32:44,940 --> 01:32:47,790 weird thing is, these are the people these actual people are 1464 01:32:47,790 --> 01:32:51,210 Chinese. These are citizens. Yeah. But they just come from 1465 01:32:51,210 --> 01:32:55,590 raw China. Or if you want to say across the imaginary line. Yeah. 1466 01:32:55,650 --> 01:32:59,370 I mean, I mean, they're treated as second class citizens, and 1467 01:32:59,370 --> 01:33:03,660 they're held in that. There's nothing to be fixed there. All 1468 01:33:03,660 --> 01:33:07,320 right. So now let's go to the second second part is exercise. 1469 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:08,760 Mike Pence. 1470 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,140 Why were people dancing outside of Mike Pence his house for 1471 01:33:13,140 --> 01:33:13,650 Adam? 1472 01:33:15,990 --> 01:33:16,920 Which time 1473 01:33:18,540 --> 01:33:21,990 when he first got elected, what was he being accused of by a 1474 01:33:21,990 --> 01:33:22,920 certain community? 1475 01:33:22,950 --> 01:33:28,710 Well, he's, he's a gay hater. And he is all for conversion 1476 01:33:28,710 --> 01:33:29,400 therapy. 1477 01:33:30,150 --> 01:33:34,140 27, Adam, harassed, detained or sometimes medicated against 1478 01:33:34,140 --> 01:33:36,660 their well those are just some of the trials facing members of 1479 01:33:36,660 --> 01:33:39,060 the LGBTQ community in China. 1480 01:33:39,090 --> 01:33:42,540 And now a new documentary from fusion called the naked truth 1481 01:33:42,540 --> 01:33:45,630 had China queer is examining what it's like to be gay in 1482 01:33:45,630 --> 01:33:48,540 China, and how activists are working for change. Here's a 1483 01:33:48,540 --> 01:33:49,020 preview. 1484 01:33:50,580 --> 01:33:52,830 Archie young couldn't believe it when he heard a gay man was 1485 01:33:52,830 --> 01:33:56,400 being held against his will in a mental hospital. After hearing 1486 01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,910 the shocking recording, made available only to fusion, he 1487 01:33:59,910 --> 01:34:02,610 dropped everything and took a seven hour train to the small 1488 01:34:02,610 --> 01:34:06,540 city of Juma Dion, on arrival at young immediately called the 1489 01:34:06,540 --> 01:34:10,500 police and a lawyer. The lawyer agreed it was extreme and 1490 01:34:10,500 --> 01:34:14,520 illegal. So he went inside the hospital asking to see you who 1491 01:34:15,030 --> 01:34:17,790 you who told the hospital doctor that he was being kept against 1492 01:34:17,790 --> 01:34:21,030 his will and he wanted to leave. He was discharged that same 1493 01:34:21,030 --> 01:34:24,510 afternoon, despite the protestations of his wife had 1494 01:34:24,510 --> 01:34:33,120 been married to her for 10 years pretending to be straight. Wow, 1495 01:34:33,660 --> 01:34:36,600 there's plenty to stand up against and when you sub take 1496 01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:40,470 those dollars in NBA players, NBA Live, it's gonna be 1497 01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:44,850 clarified NBA super woke players that want to make virtue signal. 1498 01:34:45,420 --> 01:34:49,710 That's what we're talking to here. You're being the ultimate 1499 01:34:49,710 --> 01:34:50,430 hypocrite. 1500 01:34:51,180 --> 01:34:52,170 And that's all I'm saying here. 1501 01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:56,400 I mean, honestly, maybe you just want to play basketball. Go home 1502 01:34:56,400 --> 01:35:00,210 cash or cheque and joy live. I believe that's your right But 1503 01:35:00,210 --> 01:35:02,610 when you thought you're like you said, when you thought that boom 1504 01:35:02,610 --> 01:35:03,840 arraign Yep. 1505 01:35:05,339 --> 01:35:07,019 This how it comes back and hit you. 1506 01:35:07,619 --> 01:35:12,629 And it's, it's, it's so interesting that Fox is doing 1507 01:35:12,629 --> 01:35:16,139 this. And and I think as you eloquently explained earlier, 1508 01:35:16,139 --> 01:35:20,429 they will have to stop. Because the, you know, the dollars flow 1509 01:35:20,429 --> 01:35:23,819 all the way through all of the shoe companies. And China's 1510 01:35:23,819 --> 01:35:26,189 involved in all of those because that's mainly where they come 1511 01:35:26,189 --> 01:35:28,529 from, although it's there's some diversity in where they're 1512 01:35:28,529 --> 01:35:33,089 manufactured. But I think it's a very short window that we've 1513 01:35:33,089 --> 01:35:36,059 seen here where you get a Whitlock coming out and some 1514 01:35:36,059 --> 01:35:40,139 other things that's going to close because I don't think they 1515 01:35:40,139 --> 01:35:44,459 have it in them. I don't think they have the balls to to to be 1516 01:35:44,489 --> 01:35:49,379 in even a little, little, little less hypocritical. It's just it 1517 01:35:49,379 --> 01:35:51,029 just doesn't fit the model. 1518 01:35:52,110 --> 01:35:53,520 And the media companies 1519 01:35:53,550 --> 01:35:57,210 are also tied in, you know, the movie companies, we said, we 1520 01:35:57,210 --> 01:36:02,460 just pulled back the like a little edge of the rug of really 1521 01:36:02,460 --> 01:36:06,630 the bigger problem. Like Mike said, the movie companies, the 1522 01:36:06,630 --> 01:36:11,100 video game companies, even fast food industries, all of these 1523 01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:16,290 embed with these bad lack of better word communist regimes. 1524 01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:21,000 Yes. But okay, go ahead. 1525 01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:25,530 I was gonna say as hard many of our politicians, the amount of 1526 01:36:25,530 --> 01:36:28,710 Chinese money thought flowing through Washington for campaign 1527 01:36:28,710 --> 01:36:34,230 donations is really outrageous. It's not talked about. But it's 1528 01:36:34,230 --> 01:36:38,610 there. I mean, it's you can look it up. There's so much money 1529 01:36:38,610 --> 01:36:42,450 flowing through K Street, you know, where the lobbyists are? 1530 01:36:43,140 --> 01:36:47,550 Mm hmm. And it's America's big business. That's that's what 1531 01:36:47,550 --> 01:36:52,470 we've always been. But yeah, this is this is very precarious 1532 01:36:52,500 --> 01:36:57,030 this is you're putting the big money in the hands of some 1533 01:36:57,030 --> 01:37:00,600 players who you would and have, man how many times I've heard 1534 01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:04,260 coaches complain about the players being on Twitter. And it 1535 01:37:04,260 --> 01:37:07,230 being distraction getting Yeah, actually affecting their playing 1536 01:37:07,410 --> 01:37:10,620 now could affect the whole the whole organization or multiple 1537 01:37:10,620 --> 01:37:14,640 organizations. It's this is, I'm glad you did this showed me oh, 1538 01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:18,540 this is very good. Because no, I mean, and I didn't know about 1539 01:37:18,540 --> 01:37:23,070 the 36 Olympics. It puts a whole new take on the I mean, I know 1540 01:37:23,070 --> 01:37:26,580 the Olympics are one big money making organization. So we 1541 01:37:26,580 --> 01:37:31,110 should have known better. But wow, this is this is this. It'll 1542 01:37:31,110 --> 01:37:33,390 be interesting to see how this plays out. Unfortunately, I 1543 01:37:33,390 --> 01:37:37,140 think the American public just wants to see basketball and they 1544 01:37:37,140 --> 01:37:37,860 won't care. 1545 01:37:39,870 --> 01:37:42,690 Well, that's, that's, that's all we want to see. And we don't 1546 01:37:42,690 --> 01:37:45,990 want to hear I mean, like I said, I'm a sports fan. Don't 1547 01:37:45,990 --> 01:37:51,510 mix my politics with my sports. I like politics, for it to watch 1548 01:37:51,510 --> 01:37:54,720 it. You're saying and I like sports. But I don't want to mix 1549 01:37:54,720 --> 01:38:00,390 the two together, right? Because sports is a is an escape. It's 1550 01:38:00,390 --> 01:38:04,230 an inmate's escape form from everyday life. And that's, 1551 01:38:04,260 --> 01:38:08,400 that's why you get such a push back. Now, we're at the tail end 1552 01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:14,250 of this exercise. The last thing America and its and its and its 1553 01:38:14,250 --> 01:38:19,050 administration has been accused of is racism correct or not? 1554 01:38:19,410 --> 01:38:23,760 Well, it's the first, the middle and the last things. Everything 1555 01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,460 is racist about this administration. We know that, 1556 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:28,740 right. 29 1557 01:38:28,890 --> 01:38:31,830 the advertising industry in the United States has been the 1558 01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:35,670 target of plenty of criticism around a lack of diversity and 1559 01:38:35,670 --> 01:38:38,820 racial sensitivity both in employee ranks and in 1560 01:38:38,820 --> 01:38:42,210 advertising. But when it comes to the perception of racial 1561 01:38:42,210 --> 01:38:46,290 insensitivity, or outright racism, this laundry detergent 1562 01:38:46,290 --> 01:38:49,800 commercial shot in China is sparking more concern than most 1563 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:53,220 modern commercials. The advertisement which shows a 1564 01:38:53,220 --> 01:38:56,940 paint spattered black man being transformed by the power of soap 1565 01:38:56,970 --> 01:39:01,050 into a clean cut Asian man has ignited debate on social media 1566 01:39:01,050 --> 01:39:04,620 sites and a bow from the country's largest cinema chain, 1567 01:39:04,770 --> 01:39:08,790 not just show it after it went viral on English news sites. The 1568 01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:12,510 Wall Street Journal's Josh chan reported that the ad for Kia OB 1569 01:39:12,510 --> 01:39:15,840 laundry gel balls has been circulating around the Chinese 1570 01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,950 internet since the end of March. But it wasn't until a China news 1571 01:39:19,950 --> 01:39:23,550 blog saying highest wrote about it on Thursday that the video 1572 01:39:23,550 --> 01:39:27,030 began to attract global attention. So is the ad 1573 01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:31,440 offensive you decide. The ad opens with this black painter 1574 01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:34,680 with his face and shirt smeared with paint birding with a 1575 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:39,030 Chinese woman as she does her laundry. She beckons him over xx 1576 01:39:39,030 --> 01:39:42,870 he's going to kiss him and then pops a detergent gel ball into 1577 01:39:42,870 --> 01:39:46,500 his mouth, shoves him into the washing machine and sits on the 1578 01:39:46,500 --> 01:39:51,240 cover. He then emerges as the classical prototype of a Chinese 1579 01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:57,750 man Oh, 1580 01:39:57,780 --> 01:40:00,720 can we see that video somewhere? Is that is that not available. I 1581 01:40:02,610 --> 01:40:04,380 saw you too. I'll tweet it out. 1582 01:40:05,580 --> 01:40:09,750 Basically, it's but it's a it's a confluence here because we 1583 01:40:09,750 --> 01:40:12,120 also have kind of like the eating Tide Pods in there, you 1584 01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:15,930 know, throw the tide pod, the liquid gel ball in his mouth. 1585 01:40:16,500 --> 01:40:21,180 Yes. The washing machine he comes out as Asian man. That 1586 01:40:21,180 --> 01:40:23,370 definitely wouldn't fly here in America. 1587 01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:32,970 That's great. So, and finally, the biggest faux pas 1588 01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:39,480 and racism if there is one is blackface. Yes. Would you think 1589 01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:40,920 is that considered racist? 1590 01:40:40,950 --> 01:40:43,020 Adam? What if 1591 01:40:43,020 --> 01:40:45,720 someone's walking around in blackface in the United States? 1592 01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:50,790 Yeah, definitely. Yeah, sure. I probably everywhere. But yeah, 1593 01:40:51,030 --> 01:40:56,910 of course, it's. If it's if it's literally blackface, as in the 1594 01:40:56,910 --> 01:41:00,750 Al Jolson minstrel show, yeah, super racist. 1595 01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:03,300 Already you be the judge. 1596 01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:06,600 However, in China itself, there was a rather controversial 1597 01:41:06,630 --> 01:41:09,540 television program. We do have some of the images to show you. 1598 01:41:09,570 --> 01:41:12,780 There's been a lot of people talking about this around the 1599 01:41:12,780 --> 01:41:17,760 world today. And this is the Spring Festival Gala on CCTV. 1600 01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:21,840 It's an annual variety show to celebrate the Chinese New Year. 1601 01:41:22,140 --> 01:41:24,930 And aside from live sporting events, this is actually the 1602 01:41:24,930 --> 01:41:27,510 most watched program in the world. There may have been as 1603 01:41:27,510 --> 01:41:31,410 many as 800 million viewers of this last night. And as you can 1604 01:41:31,410 --> 01:41:34,920 see there from the images, it featured a Chinese actress in 1605 01:41:34,950 --> 01:41:38,580 blackface made up to look like a black woman. She also has fake 1606 01:41:38,580 --> 01:41:43,920 buttocks on to give her a very protruding backside. And a lot 1607 01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,620 of people felt that this just really wasn't appropriate in 1608 01:41:46,620 --> 01:41:49,260 2018. It's time things. 1609 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,090 Yeah. Yeah. 1610 01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:57,330 That sounds pretty racist. But you know, the Chinese and many 1611 01:41:57,330 --> 01:42:00,210 Asian cultures are incredibly racist against each other. 1612 01:42:00,540 --> 01:42:04,560 Chinese hate the Japanese. The A lot of people dislike the 1613 01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:08,730 Japanese who were very ruthless in the past century, the North 1614 01:42:08,730 --> 01:42:13,980 Koreans met all Koreans are anti Japanese and that people are 1615 01:42:13,980 --> 01:42:14,730 racist. 1616 01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:16,710 This is very true. 1617 01:42:18,570 --> 01:42:22,680 Well, no, it's but idea I don't think that is appropriate 1618 01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:26,730 anymore. In in the 21st century, no, of course not the same as 1619 01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:30,240 you know, we don't do caricatures of Chinese within 1620 01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:33,840 the pointy rice hat on and Ching Chong, ha, you know, we don't do 1621 01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:34,530 that either. 1622 01:42:35,099 --> 01:42:36,959 Right? Because it's racially insensitive. 1623 01:42:37,049 --> 01:42:43,049 Yeah, it's the main dish. Yeah. If the super woke, 1624 01:42:43,710 --> 01:42:47,280 NBA players want to, you know, address anything, 1625 01:42:47,850 --> 01:42:49,290 be consistent. 1626 01:42:50,970 --> 01:42:53,640 If you want to go to you know, if you want to go Come here, you 1627 01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:57,090 know, and call out things when you go there call out the same 1628 01:42:57,150 --> 01:43:00,780 identical exact things that are happening there? 1629 01:43:02,010 --> 01:43:03,060 Well, but they won't 1630 01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,120 really, I was gonna say, my friend do not do not get old 1631 01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,460 waiting for them to do that. And I really don't know where they 1632 01:43:08,460 --> 01:43:11,160 go from here. I'm sure that they're all still hoping for a 1633 01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:15,870 massive destroy distraction by Wednesday. But I got a feeling 1634 01:43:16,260 --> 01:43:19,500 the president our president is, is may just keep that on the 1635 01:43:19,500 --> 01:43:21,930 radar if it's advantageous to what he's doing. 1636 01:43:23,100 --> 01:43:25,980 If he needs a distraction. Yeah, or 1637 01:43:25,980 --> 01:43:28,980 negotiate because it's gonna become cyclical, because it's 1638 01:43:28,980 --> 01:43:30,510 kind of like, Oh, yeah. 1639 01:43:30,690 --> 01:43:33,750 What about the NBA over there? You know, it's, 1640 01:43:34,590 --> 01:43:38,940 this is what you do. This is what you do. And like I say, 1641 01:43:38,940 --> 01:43:44,280 issues are brought up. It's a fascinating story, a fascinating 1642 01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:49,110 story, because it has so many layers. And as we see, as 1643 01:43:49,140 --> 01:43:54,930 history repeats itself, and no matter what the group of people 1644 01:43:54,930 --> 01:44:00,840 that is, the lead artists and they take advantage of the lower 1645 01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:04,740 classes the same way. I think that's the you know, the 1646 01:44:04,740 --> 01:44:06,270 synopsis of the show. 1647 01:44:06,900 --> 01:44:12,300 Well, and then I will add to that the power is in our hands, 1648 01:44:13,170 --> 01:44:16,110 if people really care and if they really find that the 1649 01:44:16,140 --> 01:44:19,320 hypocrisy should not stand. There's many ways for consumers 1650 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:24,780 to change the attitudes of companies and governments, in 1651 01:44:24,780 --> 01:44:28,560 fact, but it has to be genuine and people really have to stand 1652 01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:32,400 up and people have to walk away from products and services that 1653 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:38,940 they enjoy and I am not so convinced that that's anything. 1654 01:44:39,480 --> 01:44:42,540 Anyone who loves basketball or any other sport really wants to 1655 01:44:42,540 --> 01:44:48,870 do. I think they would like this to go away. But I think it's 1656 01:44:48,870 --> 01:44:54,210 very important for children, Chinese American or otherwise, 1657 01:44:54,450 --> 01:45:00,330 who idolize these players to be to hopefully educate And 1658 01:45:00,330 --> 01:45:04,800 subsequently aware that these may be false prophets and who 1659 01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:11,730 they're really worshipping is on a green piece of paper. Yes, 1660 01:45:12,210 --> 01:45:17,430 is that exactly right? That's exactly right. So I always tell 1661 01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:20,310 people vote with your dollars if you don't support something 1662 01:45:20,340 --> 01:45:25,110 don't spend your money your time with it. And that's a real 1663 01:45:25,110 --> 01:45:27,090 that's a real way you could impact things 1664 01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:32,677 yeah meanwhile go spurs. Hey Moe, thank you so much, man. 1665 01:45:32,775 --> 01:45:38,040 Another great Moe Factz with Adam curry is in the can. 1666 01:45:39,540 --> 01:45:42,540 And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the 1667 01:45:42,540 --> 01:45:43,650 truth will reveal itself. 1668 01:45:43,650 --> 01:45:47,492 Remember, we operate under value for value please go to 1669 01:45:47,562 --> 01:45:51,474 MoeFund.com mo e fund me.com. And we'll talk to you next 1670 01:45:51,543 --> 01:45:53,430 Monday, everybody. Bye bye.