1 00:00:10,260 --> 00:00:14,940 Moe Factz with Adam Curry for October 7, 2019. This is episode 2 00:00:14,970 --> 00:00:20,190 number 10. Can you believe that Moe? It's like two and a half, 3 00:00:20,190 --> 00:00:21,420 two and a half months now. 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,210 Right? We're in double digits. I mean, 5 00:00:25,260 --> 00:00:29,280 this is great double digits. Yes, we we went double digits. 6 00:00:29,310 --> 00:00:31,740 Exactly. How are you doing? 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:39,270 I'm doing well made it through a week of programming, social 8 00:00:39,270 --> 00:00:41,820 programming and I made it out alive. 9 00:00:43,260 --> 00:00:47,490 Yes, I got a lot of great feedback on on the last episode 10 00:00:47,490 --> 00:00:51,210 The colorism stuff, man, a lot of people had no idea about 11 00:00:51,210 --> 00:00:51,600 this. 12 00:00:53,250 --> 00:00:57,900 Yeah, I got a lot of great DMS and messages and emails as well. 13 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,180 gave a lot of people insight. I surprised a lot of people. Not a 14 00:01:03,180 --> 00:01:07,050 lot, but a handful of people contacted me and said that they 15 00:01:07,050 --> 00:01:11,790 had parents say the same thing to them that Tina, and I'm not 16 00:01:11,850 --> 00:01:14,820 gonna know what Matthew knows, be honest, his father told him 17 00:01:14,820 --> 00:01:18,690 right, right, told him about don't bring a dark skinned 18 00:01:18,690 --> 00:01:21,780 person home. So I'm just interested in where it stems 19 00:01:21,780 --> 00:01:25,260 from. So I'll do more research on that. But overall, great, 20 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:28,680 great feedback, as always, yes. And I'd 21 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,574 like to start by saying that this is a value for value 22 00:01:32,646 --> 00:01:36,972 program, which means we'd like to see how valuable you think 23 00:01:37,045 --> 00:01:40,650 the show is. And the way it works is you can go to 24 00:01:40,722 --> 00:01:45,193 MoeFundMe.com This is new. mo e fund me.com moefundme.com. And 25 00:01:45,265 --> 00:01:49,592 you can show your support. But how much was it worth to you? 26 00:01:49,664 --> 00:01:53,991 You listen to the show for an hour and a half, two hours. If 27 00:01:54,063 --> 00:01:58,246 you go to the movies, it's probably 50 bucks, but okay, if 28 00:01:58,318 --> 00:02:02,717 it's valuable to you, we'd love to know MoeFundMe.com And you 29 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:07,332 did tell me what the topic was going to be for today. Of course 30 00:02:07,404 --> 00:02:11,875 I know what the case is about. I'm really happy because it was 31 00:02:11,947 --> 00:02:16,418 just I don't know, just a couple days ago. The keeper asked me 32 00:02:16,490 --> 00:02:20,745 today what's going on exactly with this? I said you know, I 33 00:02:20,817 --> 00:02:24,855 really don't know. I know the outlines of the case but I 34 00:02:24,927 --> 00:02:29,326 really it's I just didn't look into it. So let us kick it off 35 00:02:29,398 --> 00:02:30,120 for today. 36 00:02:30,900 --> 00:02:34,530 Okay, so we're going to go and talk about the amber Geiger and 37 00:02:34,530 --> 00:02:42,150 Botham Shawn trial. That's where well, let's let's get into clip 38 00:02:42,150 --> 00:02:45,120 number one. Let them tell us what's about on September 39 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,860 6 2018. Dallas police officer Amber Geiger killed both of John 40 00:02:49,860 --> 00:02:53,370 inside his apartment. According to police, she thought his 41 00:02:53,370 --> 00:02:56,940 apartment was her own. Geiger said his door was unlocked, and 42 00:02:56,940 --> 00:03:00,540 she mistook John for a burglar. I'm Natalie Coleman and this is 43 00:03:00,540 --> 00:03:03,600 the reporter's notebook from the Dallas Morning News. A recap 44 00:03:03,630 --> 00:03:06,510 about the biggest stories you need to know Geiger is murder 45 00:03:06,510 --> 00:03:11,220 trial is set for September 23 2019. jurors will hear testimony 46 00:03:11,250 --> 00:03:13,710 about what happened that night at the Southside flats 47 00:03:13,710 --> 00:03:16,680 apartments just south of downtown Dallas. Geiger lived 48 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,130 one floor below Shawn, and it appears they never met. A jury 49 00:03:20,130 --> 00:03:23,400 will have to decide Gallagher's fate. Jury selection begins 50 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,330 September 6 2019, exactly one year after Geiger shot and 51 00:03:27,330 --> 00:03:27,990 killed John. 52 00:03:28,830 --> 00:03:33,660 Right, exactly. This was a very weird case, wrong apartment. 53 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:38,430 Some love interest things that we're on the periphery confusing 54 00:03:38,430 --> 00:03:41,490 Of course, there's a racial element to it. I'm very 55 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,370 interested to hear what we're going to look at today how it 56 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,270 unfolds. 57 00:03:45,870 --> 00:03:51,840 So this is not going to be our typical format show that we have 58 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,710 been doing with the historical while ride out because I wanted 59 00:03:55,710 --> 00:04:02,100 to take this opportunity in real time to let people see how the 60 00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:10,560 media manipulation is targeted towards black people. That way 61 00:04:10,590 --> 00:04:16,800 we can we could talk it out in the fields. So I found this ABC 62 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:22,080 article. ABC piece it was about seven minutes long and I chopped 63 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:29,520 it up into multiple pieces and I found it to be very mind control 64 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,460 shift from the whimsy. Wait, wait wait a min 65 00:04:32,490 --> 00:04:36,780 ABC was broadcasting something that you found to be mind 66 00:04:36,780 --> 00:04:43,380 control ition G What are the chances? Yes. I'm shocked. 67 00:04:44,190 --> 00:04:47,280 Alright, so let's get into the ABC News background are one. 68 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,970 Amber Geiger was an off duty police officer arriving home 69 00:04:50,970 --> 00:04:54,060 after a long day of work sometime around 10pm Her 70 00:04:54,060 --> 00:04:57,270 neighbor 26 year old both of them John was in his apartment. 71 00:04:57,450 --> 00:05:00,600 Exactly what happened next is still a mystery. But what we 72 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,960 know is Geiger went to John's apartment. She says she thought 73 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,010 it was hers. When she saw him, she fatally shot in the 74 00:05:08,010 --> 00:05:10,710 aftermath of that moment captured in this video, the 75 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:13,860 incident sparking questions nationwide about race, police 76 00:05:13,860 --> 00:05:17,070 transparency, and an officer's use of deadly force. 77 00:05:17,340 --> 00:05:22,770 And I must point out, whenever a so called news item has really 78 00:05:22,770 --> 00:05:28,230 creepy music under it. It's mind controlling. Yes, that's how it 79 00:05:28,230 --> 00:05:28,950 usually goes. 80 00:05:29,580 --> 00:05:33,330 That's exactly why I didn't say anything. It began with the Big 81 00:05:33,330 --> 00:05:37,770 Gong, or I guess you would call it a gong kind of sound draws 82 00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:41,250 you in it has the, you know, the, like you pointed out creepy 83 00:05:41,250 --> 00:05:47,730 music. And it just goes on from there. So what I want to do is 84 00:05:48,780 --> 00:05:51,870 for half our audience, and I don't know if it's 50%, but for 85 00:05:51,870 --> 00:05:54,900 a good majority of our audience or good secondary audience, 86 00:05:55,380 --> 00:05:59,040 they'll receive it the way I received it, as they're trying 87 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,430 to manipulate me, they are first starting second saying they've 88 00:06:02,430 --> 00:06:05,580 already thrown race into the root, which is can't be avoided. 89 00:06:05,610 --> 00:06:08,190 I mean, we have to really, you know, talk about who's involved 90 00:06:08,190 --> 00:06:11,610 in the case and past shootings and things of that nature, but 91 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,710 right off the bat to hit you with the race thing that Nas you 92 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:21,480 being immediate right or wrong. Race is good for ratings 93 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:21,960 Correct? 94 00:06:22,350 --> 00:06:26,910 Well, this story has almost everything you need. Race is 95 00:06:26,910 --> 00:06:29,760 good for ratings. You know, the the old news business, of 96 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,030 course, is if it bleeds, it leads, so we got that in there. 97 00:06:33,030 --> 00:06:35,880 We got love interest, all kinds of stuff. But yeah, I think 98 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,360 these days, absolutely. If we can throw some race stuff out 99 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,320 there, people will pay 100 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:40,860 attention. 101 00:06:42,150 --> 00:06:46,440 So with that in mind, that's what we're going to try to 102 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,670 deconstruct and D you know, break break break break apart. 103 00:06:50,670 --> 00:06:52,860 So let's just get into clip three. 104 00:06:54,210 --> 00:06:57,000 According to the arrest affidavit, Geiger who lived on 105 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,640 the third floor and park on the fourth floor of the building 106 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:05,430 that night. She headed to the apartment directly above her 107 00:07:05,430 --> 00:07:09,300 unit, thinking she said it was her own. The door she says was 108 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:11,490 slightly open the interior dark. 109 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,150 I thought it was my apartment. I thought it was my apartment. 110 00:07:15,180 --> 00:07:18,180 She says that over and over again in this five minute 111 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,170 recording. Is that significant to you? is 112 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,470 significant to the point that it makes me feel that that call was 113 00:07:25,470 --> 00:07:29,550 staged. It made me feel that she had already spoken with someone 114 00:07:29,730 --> 00:07:33,300 Geiger still in uniform said she thought she spotted a burglar. 115 00:07:33,540 --> 00:07:37,110 But in fact it was the apartment resident both of them John, she 116 00:07:37,110 --> 00:07:39,900 then fire two shots hitting John once in the chest. 117 00:07:40,140 --> 00:07:44,700 Wow. That's some interesting supposition. I guess whatever 118 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:46,890 you want to call us out on the scripted that's something I 119 00:07:46,890 --> 00:07:49,620 would say typically, but I didn't come across as scripted 120 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:50,130 to me. 121 00:07:52,740 --> 00:07:57,540 So as we get more into it, and the way I clip it, is kind of 122 00:07:57,570 --> 00:08:02,070 out of order. Because I did it in segments. Okay, so we got the 123 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:07,320 background, or we have a police officer coming up at 13 and a 124 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:13,620 half hour shift. Coming home. I think she lived on the third 125 00:08:13,620 --> 00:08:17,670 floor, but she parks on the fourth floor. She goes to the 126 00:08:17,670 --> 00:08:22,440 apartment she assumes to be hers enters the apartment, and 127 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,620 there's some gray area about how she got a narrative The door was 128 00:08:25,620 --> 00:08:30,300 locked. If she not, they're not. But somehow, later in the case, 129 00:08:30,300 --> 00:08:36,150 they in spoiler alert to the movie, Amy here, because that's 130 00:08:36,150 --> 00:08:41,220 what it is. Let's just slow down for a minute. I want to point 131 00:08:41,220 --> 00:08:46,020 out to people, when you hear these cases, avoid them like the 132 00:08:46,020 --> 00:08:52,740 plague. This is what I do. If it wasn't for this show, I would 133 00:08:52,740 --> 00:08:57,030 have not gone as deep as I dig into this story. Because I 134 00:08:57,030 --> 00:09:00,030 understand how they want to manipulate me how they want to 135 00:09:00,030 --> 00:09:02,670 prod and poke and well hold on. Hold on, 136 00:09:02,670 --> 00:09:05,940 hold on a second. Let me ask you about that. When you say they 137 00:09:05,940 --> 00:09:11,910 want to manipulate you. In what way I mean, would you you're 138 00:09:11,940 --> 00:09:15,540 speaking from experience, I hear this. I'm just like, I hated the 139 00:09:15,540 --> 00:09:18,090 music. I'm like I'm out I didn't want to listen to the story but 140 00:09:18,090 --> 00:09:21,120 so I'm glad I'm glad we're doing it. But you feel that it's going 141 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,560 to be manipulated in an in a putting the the black person in 142 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:27,900 a negative light. Is that your immediate feeling when you when 143 00:09:27,900 --> 00:09:28,620 you hear that? No. 144 00:09:29,250 --> 00:09:34,020 I think it's about ratings from the immediate Well, yeah, so of 145 00:09:34,020 --> 00:09:41,280 course they want to date Wow. Correct. As you just said, 146 00:09:41,310 --> 00:09:45,360 that's interesting. How they say that sounded scripted. They're 147 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,500 gonna throw raw meat to both sides. Oh, nice. They're gonna 148 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:53,430 be pro police. They're gonna give you a little pro police and 149 00:09:53,430 --> 00:09:55,860 then they're gonna give you a little pro black nine. They're 150 00:09:55,860 --> 00:09:59,100 gonna keep doing this thing to bring both sides in and then 151 00:09:59,100 --> 00:10:04,080 what you have is This explosion, when both sides get invested, 152 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,320 it's kind of like the Super Bowl, or anything else or 153 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,830 make you or just like political polling. And we you know, I 154 00:10:10,830 --> 00:10:13,470 think we've talked about this certainly I know agenda. It's 155 00:10:13,470 --> 00:10:17,100 like you got all close race too close to call, oh, you know, 156 00:10:17,100 --> 00:10:20,400 spend more, spend more. That's exactly what it is keep them 157 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:20,880 glued. 158 00:10:21,930 --> 00:10:27,930 I was pulled in by this with the political polling that Kamal is 159 00:10:27,930 --> 00:10:32,580 trending up. Yeah, back to the older episode, I got pulled in. 160 00:10:32,610 --> 00:10:38,070 I got suckered in from my headlines. So this, if you don't 161 00:10:38,070 --> 00:10:42,180 listen to the media spin on these things, then it will 162 00:10:42,180 --> 00:10:49,230 affect you in a way that it does. And by that, and I'm okay. 163 00:10:49,710 --> 00:10:53,730 I think a lot of people want to say, Why do black people, and I 164 00:10:53,730 --> 00:10:56,550 don't want to say overgeneralize get so sucked into these 165 00:10:56,550 --> 00:11:02,280 stories? It's because the way the media targeted, targeted us 166 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,030 with these stories, 167 00:11:03,060 --> 00:11:06,616 hold on Moe. White people get sucked in just as hard with 168 00:11:06,678 --> 00:11:10,110 these stories when they're presented this way it works. 169 00:11:10,950 --> 00:11:15,030 True, true. True. Oh, I'm not saying it does it. But I can 170 00:11:15,030 --> 00:11:17,610 always speak from one perspective. And that's why this 171 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:21,780 conversation that happened, because you can I think this is 172 00:11:21,780 --> 00:11:24,480 probably only the one one place that you can get this 173 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:29,820 conversation to happen. Yeah, in real time. I think that's the 174 00:11:29,820 --> 00:11:34,560 real value of the show. And that's why I was I was really 175 00:11:34,620 --> 00:11:39,840 5050 on not even doing this this show this topic on this episode. 176 00:11:40,290 --> 00:11:42,420 Because I didn't want to feed into it. But I was like, this is 177 00:11:42,420 --> 00:11:47,610 a great not only decided last night. 178 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:51,600 No, no, that's good. And let me just tell you, this is probably 179 00:11:51,630 --> 00:11:54,870 appropriate before we get too deep into it. The way the story 180 00:11:54,870 --> 00:12:01,260 read to me was, here's a cop. The 13 hours was significant. 181 00:12:01,290 --> 00:12:04,890 You know, I'm tired after 13 hours. I have parked on the 182 00:12:04,890 --> 00:12:09,210 wrong floor in my building previously. But I noticed that 183 00:12:09,210 --> 00:12:12,330 when I got to the door, you know in the parking garage, the door 184 00:12:12,330 --> 00:12:17,520 that goes into the into the actual residence. So I I've done 185 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:23,730 this just in mindlessness, of course the door being maybe open 186 00:12:23,730 --> 00:12:28,470 or I mean, you gotta be really tired. Now then to add on top of 187 00:12:28,470 --> 00:12:31,470 all of that, because of course I forgot all this, like, Yeah, 188 00:12:31,470 --> 00:12:34,470 whatever this is over. And then Tina asked me about it. I really 189 00:12:34,470 --> 00:12:38,100 don't know. I really haven't looked into it. Because it's to 190 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:42,060 me, it seems like Well, bad shit happens all the time. But this 191 00:12:42,060 --> 00:12:44,880 is one that's playing out. It's like all these you know, True 192 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,910 Crime Murder things people are obsessed with. And it's not for 193 00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:54,960 me. However, when I saw a quick news snippet the other day of of 194 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,710 the cop, I was like, Oh, she's cute. That did draw me in a 195 00:12:58,710 --> 00:13:04,050 little bit for for a second. I'm like, oh, but again, I 196 00:13:04,050 --> 00:13:07,020 personally you know, because just who I am, I didn't care but 197 00:13:07,020 --> 00:13:11,340 I think you're absolutely right. This was a ratings Bonanza in 198 00:13:11,370 --> 00:13:15,210 just laying in waiting to be brought out to the masses. So 199 00:13:16,350 --> 00:13:16,920 that's what 200 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,120 makes for the perfect movie. And that's why I use this background 201 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:26,310 clip because they actually sell it as a movie trailer. trailer 202 00:13:26,340 --> 00:13:28,710 right? When I heard this I was like, This sounds like a movie 203 00:13:28,710 --> 00:13:30,570 trailer aren't they? It was Matt missing was the guy that did 204 00:13:30,570 --> 00:13:30,930 deep work 205 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,450 in a world where white cops kill Black people the wrong floor. 206 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,500 Yeah, exactly. 207 00:13:41,820 --> 00:13:47,340 So let's go let's Okay, so we we've gotten the background so 208 00:13:47,340 --> 00:13:51,480 we're going to break it down. The first reaction is always the 209 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:57,510 911 call. So we're going to hear her talking to 911 210 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,970 and then off to the officer I thought it was in my apartment 211 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,960 and I shot it I think in that he was thinking it was my apartment 212 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,120 and attorney for John's family listening with us the audio 213 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,150 obtained exclusively by Dallas station W FAA. 214 00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:17,100 All I can imagine was both them on the ground taking this last 215 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:20,190 breath and that was very difficult for me. 216 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,270 Okay, we have help on the way I know that was my job. 217 00:14:26,460 --> 00:14:29,940 I thought it was my recording Geiger can be heard growing 218 00:14:29,940 --> 00:14:44,970 increasingly distraught. Oh my God. You're now potentially 219 00:14:44,970 --> 00:14:46,140 facing prison time. 220 00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:53,010 Oh, God, having listened to a lot of 911 calls in 221 00:14:53,010 --> 00:14:57,090 investigative research. This was not the 911 call. This was the 222 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:02,550 911 call. But I don't know how it was at Did she goes from? Oh 223 00:15:02,550 --> 00:15:05,520 my god to oh my god, I'm gonna lose my job. I don't know if 224 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,030 that was her first thought. I don't know if that was her first 225 00:15:09,030 --> 00:15:11,820 thought but it certainly was presented that way which makes 226 00:15:11,820 --> 00:15:16,230 me feel immediately like why did she think of that? Is that the 227 00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:18,540 first thing you'd think of? I wouldn't be thinking of that but 228 00:15:18,540 --> 00:15:21,300 I don't know if that was it was chopped up who knows what it 229 00:15:21,300 --> 00:15:21,720 was? 230 00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:25,710 And we have to listen to the helter skelter what way is being 231 00:15:25,710 --> 00:15:28,830 presented. One guy said all I could think about was Botham 232 00:15:29,010 --> 00:15:33,090 Langley right? Yeah. And yeah, nice did she come and then he 233 00:15:33,090 --> 00:15:36,690 comes back with the next edit. Oh, I'm gonna lose my job and 234 00:15:36,690 --> 00:15:41,280 she sounds like a little girl sounds like a little innocent 235 00:15:41,370 --> 00:15:45,000 child which which makes me believe or makes me think of 236 00:15:45,030 --> 00:15:45,540 Greta 237 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:51,780 yeah oh Greta tune bury the 16 year old climate extravaganza 238 00:15:52,380 --> 00:15:57,720 who they always make to look younger. Interesting. So that I 239 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,300 just take this as a personal takeaway. I what we're doing 240 00:16:00,300 --> 00:16:00,870 here is 241 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,080 what OPERS instructing we're deconstructing it and Realty. 242 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:04,350 Yes. 243 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:12,960 Correct. So next day going to a little the victims bio. So now 244 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,710 that 911 Call beginning to shed light on what happened that 245 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:20,460 night. Both of them John of St. Lucia native is described by his 246 00:16:20,460 --> 00:16:23,070 friends and family as a quote ray of sunshine. 247 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:27,720 Both of them had a love for everything and everyone. So I 248 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,470 just want the message of love to permeate throughout this whole 249 00:16:31,470 --> 00:16:33,540 process. An active 250 00:16:33,540 --> 00:16:44,640 member of the Pearland West Church of Christ he was beloved 251 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,810 by many everybody is this pack service held and his honor shows 252 00:16:49,230 --> 00:16:52,020 his fate forever changed by Amber Geiger. 253 00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:56,370 Now I recognize this as a template that the news media 254 00:16:56,370 --> 00:17:01,680 does all the time. Whenever a usually a young black man is 255 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,250 shot. This is the template. He was great at school active 256 00:17:05,250 --> 00:17:09,570 member of the church. I'm just being brutally honest with you. 257 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,330 Obviously. That's what you and I do together. What I'm missing. 258 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:16,890 I'm missing his mother crying. But that's that was that was his 259 00:17:16,890 --> 00:17:19,080 mother. That was his mother. Okay, so that's that that was 260 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,080 his mother. That's the template. That is the news template in 261 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,750 America when a black man is shot. 262 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,240 Yes. And we will add previous shows. We know why. We know the 263 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,040 connection with the mother and the child. Who they're the 264 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,120 target audience they're trying to reach. With this news story. 265 00:17:39,150 --> 00:17:43,890 It could be your son the talk. This thing wraps a bunch of what 266 00:17:43,890 --> 00:17:47,640 we've talked about in all the previous episodes up into one 267 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,510 nice little pack. You 268 00:17:48,510 --> 00:17:51,360 almost think they're listening to us for instructions. 269 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,890 But it's sick, it's sick and away. It is but what I can say 270 00:17:58,890 --> 00:18:04,590 about Botham, John is he was a good guy. He was in his house, 271 00:18:04,980 --> 00:18:08,400 laying on his floor on his couch. whatever story you want 272 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,300 to believe eating a bowl of ice cream. You can't get any more 273 00:18:12,330 --> 00:18:19,350 innocent than that. He was an accountant. No priors. So this 274 00:18:19,380 --> 00:18:20,550 only heightened 275 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,430 Wait, wait, you mean he wasn't your typical black guy? drug 276 00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:26,340 dealer? What? I'm so confused. 277 00:18:26,370 --> 00:18:30,000 Right. Right. Yeah. Which is the narrative they like to go with 278 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,520 hell yeah. Um, so this only heightens the stakes in this 279 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:40,050 case because it's like it's purely innocent. Botham 280 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,680 attractive quote unquote attractive white woman cop 281 00:18:46,860 --> 00:18:51,330 blonde she fits cat perfect casting he was a central casting 282 00:18:51,690 --> 00:18:58,050 blonde and he's just these two people collide into 283 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,830 into this perfect 284 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,170 cat um, what's the word I want to test tragedy tragedy? Sure. 285 00:19:07,170 --> 00:19:11,760 Tasha Yes. Perfect. It's a perfect tragedy. So but what you 286 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,290 pointed out something you said that um, he's not the typical 287 00:19:16,290 --> 00:19:21,270 drug dealer. But in this happening in real time, right 288 00:19:21,270 --> 00:19:25,200 after the case on right after the shooting. His character was 289 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:27,060 attempted to be assassinated. 290 00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:32,610 Insane case also in Texas. Marlon Jean, and it keeps 291 00:19:32,610 --> 00:19:37,890 getting more crazy. He's the black man killed by Dallas cop. 292 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,130 She says she accidentally entered his apartment thinking 293 00:19:41,130 --> 00:19:45,480 it was hers and thought he was an intruder. But there are some 294 00:19:46,140 --> 00:19:48,660 ego holes in this. Yeah, you there's 295 00:19:49,020 --> 00:19:51,390 so much more that we don't know. And the apartment itself even 296 00:19:51,390 --> 00:19:55,140 going to the door. He had a red mat in front of it. Hers did not 297 00:19:55,170 --> 00:19:55,620 she said 298 00:19:55,620 --> 00:19:57,720 she had a bunch of packages and couldn't say couldn't 299 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,720 see. Well enough. have to shoot and 300 00:20:05,610 --> 00:20:08,460 she says the door was ajar. Yet the neighbors are saying they 301 00:20:08,460 --> 00:20:11,400 heard someone banging on the door saying let me in. But let 302 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,030 me let me 303 00:20:12,030 --> 00:20:17,730 ask you a jar. She just you as a police officer don't know if 304 00:20:17,730 --> 00:20:19,920 there's 50 people in their attorney. Why didn't you call 305 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,740 for backup? Well, you pulled your web Exactly. It sounds like 306 00:20:23,490 --> 00:20:26,130 some whether it was a draw or not. There's a lot of this a lot 307 00:20:26,130 --> 00:20:29,610 of stuff. And then they tried to assassinate his character by 308 00:20:29,610 --> 00:20:32,250 saying, you know, they found marijuana in there. Yeah. So you 309 00:20:32,250 --> 00:20:39,330 telling me that somebody in their own house can't smoke and 310 00:20:39,660 --> 00:20:40,080 smoke. 311 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,450 Smoking? 312 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,560 Who said that smoking while Black Witch view lady 313 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,380 said that. That was a whoopee 314 00:20:55,470 --> 00:20:57,510 was that will be you said I don't I couldn't tell if it was 315 00:20:57,780 --> 00:21:00,450 we'll be talking. That was we'll be talking and then who chimed 316 00:21:00,450 --> 00:21:02,040 in? Joy? 317 00:21:02,310 --> 00:21:06,840 No, of course. Well, so this was, this is what we do in the 318 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:12,060 United States media. We talk out of our buttholes with no 319 00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:17,280 evidence we don't have no idea. When I think by the way, a cop 320 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,270 shows up at her own door and it's a jar which is kind of 321 00:21:21,330 --> 00:21:24,570 triggered for me the memory of the of the story whenever it 322 00:21:24,570 --> 00:21:28,650 started, like oh, well yeah, if I'm a cop, and I show up at my 323 00:21:28,650 --> 00:21:32,310 own door, and it's a jar my weapons out and I'm ready to you 324 00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:35,490 know, I'm a cop. So I'm gonna go in and, and be ready for 325 00:21:35,490 --> 00:21:38,280 anything that happens. That was the narrative that I caught when 326 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,860 it first came out. You know, I don't even know if I heard it. 327 00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:43,860 Right. But that's what I what I heard. And so here they are 328 00:21:43,860 --> 00:21:46,860 saying, well, you'd call for backup. I would disagree with 329 00:21:46,860 --> 00:21:47,640 Whoopi on that. 330 00:21:50,490 --> 00:21:54,180 But they did try to assassinate his character. Of course. Yes, 331 00:21:54,210 --> 00:22:01,170 of course. But here we go. The way the narrative was painted to 332 00:22:01,170 --> 00:22:04,110 target me and like I said, I heard these things in glimpses 333 00:22:04,110 --> 00:22:07,380 in. I really didn't put a lot of time into listening to it, but 334 00:22:07,380 --> 00:22:10,860 just what gravitated towards me, you know, I heard I'm just 335 00:22:10,980 --> 00:22:15,060 talking to people. The story was this is how I was told 336 00:22:15,390 --> 00:22:18,510 secondhand from people and I'm just giving you the perspective 337 00:22:18,510 --> 00:22:22,620 of how they received it. He was landing land on his floor eating 338 00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:25,140 a bowl of ice cream she whipped out the gun and shot him on the 339 00:22:25,140 --> 00:22:30,300 floor. Did you know there was no confrontation? There's no 340 00:22:30,300 --> 00:22:34,530 interaction Okay, which that's not true. But the guys laying on 341 00:22:34,530 --> 00:22:37,500 his floor eating a bowl of ice cream how more innocent can you 342 00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:43,320 get? But they did try it the as the media always does when you 343 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:48,690 try going back to the campaign analogy when one guy was running 344 00:22:48,690 --> 00:22:54,420 away with it. What did he always do away with the campaign 345 00:22:54,750 --> 00:22:57,810 sandbag attack yes do whatever you can of course 346 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:02,880 because he's seen my is to open shut down to have a too much of 347 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,050 an open and shut case and a sports analogy a blowout sale by 348 00:23:07,050 --> 00:23:10,020 all we got to we got it we got to bounce it out. You know this 349 00:23:10,020 --> 00:23:12,900 put the interview and you window out there to you know he was 350 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,180 drug related right now. I mean, oh, does a smoker, Joy ice 351 00:23:18,180 --> 00:23:20,430 cream. I mean, come on. I mean, this is America. 352 00:23:21,660 --> 00:23:26,190 Usually it's in that order? Yes. It starts with the joint and oh, 353 00:23:26,190 --> 00:23:28,140 man, I really need some ice cream. Yes, 354 00:23:28,650 --> 00:23:32,340 of course. So I'll just say that as a bad thing. Even if he did 355 00:23:32,340 --> 00:23:35,280 have drugs. How could that be negative? I don't understand. 356 00:23:35,790 --> 00:23:37,830 But this just goes to show well, it's 357 00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:42,990 back. It's back to the the black guy drug dealer. That's that was 358 00:23:42,990 --> 00:23:45,120 the thing that I caught from it by saying 359 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:45,930 yes. Yeah. 360 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,390 And I think one thing that we have with me you have is we have 361 00:23:51,390 --> 00:23:56,430 these deconstructionist eyes. So it prevents us to see how the 362 00:23:56,430 --> 00:23:58,320 general public sees things. 363 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,010 Sometimes, yeah, we already have a prophylactic over our head. 364 00:24:02,730 --> 00:24:05,850 Right. So it makes zero when I heard that. I was like, We got 365 00:24:05,850 --> 00:24:09,150 my eyes rolled. I was like, Hold on, I had to go back and like 366 00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:13,320 look at through the lens of the of the unwashed 367 00:24:15,780 --> 00:24:16,710 coined a phrase. 368 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:24,270 All right. Um, so moving forward. We're gonna get into 369 00:24:24,270 --> 00:24:26,100 the shooters by him. Alright. 370 00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:29,070 Amber Geiger, a four year veteran of the Dallas police 371 00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:29,550 force. 372 00:24:29,580 --> 00:24:32,010 This is a person who has been on patrol for four years, they have 373 00:24:32,010 --> 00:24:36,030 a pretty good idea of how to handle stressful situations. 374 00:24:36,780 --> 00:24:39,630 There is nothing to say the two neighbors had a relationship. 375 00:24:39,810 --> 00:24:43,380 But on September 6, after a more than 13 hour shift, diagur, who 376 00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:46,770 was off duty arrived back to her Dallas apartment building where 377 00:24:46,770 --> 00:24:50,580 she and John's lives would cross in the worst way possible. At 378 00:24:50,580 --> 00:24:50,760 that 379 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,280 point, she could be running around from job to job so that 380 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,150 factors in here 381 00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:56,160 and when it What did he say at 382 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,370 the end that she was going from what he said at that point she 383 00:24:59,370 --> 00:25:03,030 could be running around Now from job to job, so I'm assuming he's 384 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,740 making, you know, saying that she could be working off duty 385 00:25:07,740 --> 00:25:12,270 jobs. Okay. That's how I that's how I took it. It was like yeah, 386 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,810 so but that's how I took it but now they're laying out that 387 00:25:15,810 --> 00:25:20,790 she's a seasoned she's a four year problems and four year vet 388 00:25:20,970 --> 00:25:24,330 on the force. So she should know how to interact with these 389 00:25:24,330 --> 00:25:29,340 cases. So like I said, they're still the news is not picking 390 00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:32,070 any sides here they gave me a little to give them a little red 391 00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:37,290 meat to both sides to keep you enthralled and you're saying it 392 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,290 entertain yes and in the most 393 00:25:44,340 --> 00:25:45,780 nefarious that's the word. 394 00:25:47,070 --> 00:25:49,890 Yeah, it's reducing a cup get keep you caught into 395 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:54,120 it's disgusting. Yeah. And you know, this of course was abused 396 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:58,080 excessively with the OJ trial. I mean, this is the the media 397 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,480 knows this is a success formula. 398 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,690 Yes. All the way down to the who the characters are. Now I have 399 00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:10,530 to ask this question. If it was a white woman shooting a white 400 00:26:10,530 --> 00:26:16,350 man, no press. If it was a black person shooting a black person, 401 00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:20,250 no press correct. But as we pointed out before, in the 402 00:26:20,250 --> 00:26:24,510 casting of this movie, everything is perfect as you got 403 00:26:24,510 --> 00:26:26,250 everything is everything is 404 00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:29,430 right down right down to the cop being a woman couldn't doesn't 405 00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:34,320 get any better. blonde woman Oh, excuse me. Yes. Perfect, perfect 406 00:26:34,380 --> 00:26:35,880 academy award with 407 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,200 the with the German sounding last name. I mean, that matters. 408 00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:43,650 I mean, oh, yeah. I didn't even think about that. 409 00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:48,390 But what a valley girl first me Amber, who was saying? 410 00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:54,330 Yeah, yeah. In fact, if you had you can't, if you wrote it this 411 00:26:54,330 --> 00:26:59,880 way. Hollywood go, man, that's too blatant. That's, that's no, 412 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,880 no, that's unbelievable. It's so perfect. And he yet here we are. 413 00:27:03,810 --> 00:27:07,530 Here we are. And not and I knew that. The reason why I played 414 00:27:07,530 --> 00:27:11,790 that first clip, the very first clip is how it was undone in 415 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,370 ANSYS. It was D sensationalized, it was a straight to the point. 416 00:27:18,030 --> 00:27:21,900 This is what happened, you know, and willing to go to trial. But 417 00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:26,220 once the mass mainstream media got to hold to it was like, This 418 00:27:26,220 --> 00:27:31,710 is too good to be true. That's right. So now we're going back 419 00:27:31,710 --> 00:27:33,030 to 911 call. 420 00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:39,270 Gorgeous EMS. Are you both 20 times on that? 911 call Geiger 421 00:27:39,270 --> 00:27:42,600 tells the dispatcher she thought the apartment was her own. At 422 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,380 one point saying she was tired. No, no. 423 00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:06,390 Okay, so now we hear her saying she's tired. She's tired. Is 424 00:28:06,390 --> 00:28:07,080 that what I heard? 425 00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:17,670 Yes, I'm tired. I'm not laughing is this crazy? So we have to get 426 00:28:17,670 --> 00:28:22,410 to the point of asking. How in the hell do you not know you're 427 00:28:22,410 --> 00:28:26,490 not at your apartment? Right? That is the million dollar 428 00:28:26,490 --> 00:28:31,260 question. Because you brought it up yourself. We all made 429 00:28:31,260 --> 00:28:34,020 mistakes been distracted, you know? Yeah, I've 430 00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:37,170 tried. I've tried to get into the wrong car. You know, that's 431 00:28:37,170 --> 00:28:40,110 happened, of course, you know, dumb stuff like that. Yeah, 432 00:28:40,140 --> 00:28:42,330 I was just about to say that. I was gonna give that same 433 00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:45,150 analogy. My wife was sitting I was I wasn't in this other 434 00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:52,110 store. My wife sitting in a parked car waiting for me. And a 435 00:28:52,110 --> 00:28:53,760 woman comes and hops in the car 436 00:28:53,760 --> 00:29:02,130 car. Right because when you're distracted, you're distracted. 437 00:29:03,030 --> 00:29:09,300 Okay, so I think so she comes up to the door. And everybody makes 438 00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:14,520 a point that there's he had a huge red. Welcome, Matt. Welcome 439 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,630 mat in front of his door. So you'd have to ask how in the 440 00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:23,160 hell are you that distracted? Let the next clip explain to you 441 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:23,580 how 442 00:29:23,850 --> 00:29:26,970 Omar via Franca is at the courthouse in Dallas. Omar, what 443 00:29:26,970 --> 00:29:28,260 did prosecutors reveal? 444 00:29:30,150 --> 00:29:32,340 Good morning. Prosecutors say that at the time of the 445 00:29:32,340 --> 00:29:35,490 shooting. Amber Geiger was preoccupied, talking and texting 446 00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:38,520 with a partner who she was romantically involved with. The 447 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,280 jury got a preview of some of those sexually explicit 448 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,650 messages. She shoots twice at the start of amber Geiger is 449 00:29:46,650 --> 00:29:50,250 trial. Prosecutors argued the former Dallas police officer 450 00:29:50,340 --> 00:29:53,940 missed several opportunities to avoid the deadly confrontation 451 00:29:53,940 --> 00:29:56,640 with her neighbor. 26 year old both them John 452 00:29:56,820 --> 00:30:02,160 for errors for her omissions Bowling pay the ultimate price. 453 00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:06,030 According to prosecutors, one of those errors was a romantic 454 00:30:06,030 --> 00:30:09,240 conversation. Geiger was carrying on with her patrol 455 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,170 partner. In the minutes before the shooting Geiger and fellow 456 00:30:13,170 --> 00:30:17,340 officer Martin Rivera allegedly had a phone call and exchanged 457 00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:19,230 sexually explicit messages 458 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,650 now Okay, so that's where it came from. I knew there was some 459 00:30:22,650 --> 00:30:26,100 romantic thing in there, but I now I least have the story 460 00:30:26,130 --> 00:30:28,080 according to the media. 461 00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:30,720 But did you catch how she was distracted? 462 00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:33,180 At the very beginning? No, I heard you ring the bell, but I 463 00:30:33,180 --> 00:30:33,690 missed it. 464 00:30:34,590 --> 00:30:35,700 It's right at the very beginning. 465 00:30:36,990 --> 00:30:39,690 Let me play it again. Omar Villafranca is at the courthouse 466 00:30:39,690 --> 00:30:41,040 in Dallas. Omar, what 467 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,330 did prosecutors reveal? 468 00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:46,410 Good morning. Prosecutors say that at the time of the 469 00:30:46,410 --> 00:30:49,530 shooting. Amber Geiger was preoccupied talking and texting 470 00:30:49,530 --> 00:30:52,590 with a partner who she was romantically involved with. The 471 00:30:52,590 --> 00:30:55,350 jury got a preview of some of those sexually explicit 472 00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:56,070 messages. 473 00:30:58,230 --> 00:31:02,550 talking and talking and texting she's distracting while shooting 474 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,260 you know, when I played this game, if if someone's on the 475 00:31:10,260 --> 00:31:12,480 street, I give Miss if they're holding their phone. I give 476 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,650 myself one point. If they're on the phone standing on the 477 00:31:16,650 --> 00:31:19,350 street, two points. If they're on the phone on the street 478 00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:23,790 walking, I get three points. If someone's driving while on the 479 00:31:23,790 --> 00:31:27,930 phone, five points. I think if you're killing people, that's 480 00:31:27,930 --> 00:31:32,520 got to be a free game. If you're on a phone and shooting people, 481 00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:35,490 you really win that game. Crazy. Okay, 482 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,830 well, that explains how because we've all been distracted. We've 483 00:31:40,860 --> 00:31:45,000 all we've all I mean, we've all done it. But how do you get all 484 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,320 the way to your house and not realize it's your house? It's 485 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,850 very easy if you're on your phone. Yes. clickety clacking 486 00:31:53,850 --> 00:31:57,930 away at the keyboard you know, especially if somebody's saying 487 00:31:57,930 --> 00:32:02,520 very it's something very interesting when you i sexting 488 00:32:02,940 --> 00:32:04,170 was what they were doing. 489 00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:09,900 Well, you know, and this could kind of explain her again we 490 00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:14,040 didn't hear the 911 call in context we heard it edited. But 491 00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:17,580 if if I'm texting and all this comes down and I'm just playing 492 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:21,060 you know the advocate of the devil I'm texting I'm doing all 493 00:32:21,060 --> 00:32:23,700 this I walk in somehow something's messed up the doors 494 00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:29,130 open I'm I'm carrying on an affair with one of my 495 00:32:29,130 --> 00:32:33,510 colleagues. This is maybe where the immediate response so I'm 496 00:32:33,510 --> 00:32:36,420 gonna lose my job or response I'm gonna lose my job came from 497 00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:39,690 as she's putting it all together in her head and I'm just making 498 00:32:39,690 --> 00:32:42,060 it up as they go along as to what I hear as the story 499 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:42,840 unfolds. 500 00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:45,930 Okay, let's clear up the door thing so we just don't have to 501 00:32:45,930 --> 00:32:49,860 wonder about your thing anymore because some people say that 502 00:32:49,950 --> 00:32:53,550 they heard or not other people say that it was it was oh, it 503 00:32:53,550 --> 00:32:58,680 was crack open the what came out in the case was that the door 504 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,480 was locked but not latched. So she did put her key Oh turned it 505 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:10,440 and it opened with it in turn what it pushed open okay so I 506 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:16,860 say perfect perfect tragedy it's hospice door had latch properly. 507 00:33:17,130 --> 00:33:21,510 She went to bed to get in right but the fact that his door 508 00:33:21,510 --> 00:33:25,620 didn't latch agency put a key in she still 509 00:33:25,890 --> 00:33:29,657 Yeah, Moe, Moe strike one for the black man. I'm sorry. He 510 00:33:29,721 --> 00:33:32,190 gotta lock your door. Strike one right 511 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,200 you gotta you gotta keep that door lock. Yeah. 512 00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:41,880 Yeah, so yeah. 513 00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:48,480 But you being the OTG guy. I thought I thought that will be 514 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,890 very interesting to you. 515 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,650 Well, it's the crux of it right now the way you've presented it 516 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,150 it's the crux of the case. So please kill me phones kill and 517 00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:57,960 the story 518 00:33:58,470 --> 00:34:01,770 but we can't let that get in the way of a good narrative 519 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,090 Oh hell no ratings 520 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,680 if you if you're in the right if you're all bonehead woman shoots 521 00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:12,660 cuz she's 16 I mean that does have a nice nice ring to it. But 522 00:34:12,660 --> 00:34:17,190 you know they still not cool them in white female cop shoots 523 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,260 innocent black man eating a bowl of ice cream is the best shot I 524 00:34:22,620 --> 00:34:28,110 would try to target and the people out there had turned out 525 00:34:28,110 --> 00:34:32,760 you triggered knob. We're we're being loose with this because 526 00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:37,410 what we want to do is desensitize people to the over 527 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,450 price 528 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,982 abuse, abuse, Moe it's abuse, abuse, abuse, the media is 529 00:34:43,045 --> 00:34:46,110 abusing you. That's exactly what's going on here. 530 00:34:46,590 --> 00:34:49,500 So what we're going to do is we're going to be light with it 531 00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:52,650 because we don't want to be add to that we don't want to add to 532 00:34:52,650 --> 00:34:59,070 that so we can see clear this is easy open shut case woman 533 00:34:59,070 --> 00:35:03,540 distracted wanted to because she's not distracted. She's just 534 00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:08,070 tired. You say that's not my couch, right? That's not my 535 00:35:08,070 --> 00:35:08,640 chair. 536 00:35:08,670 --> 00:35:12,000 Right? Especially if you're looking at dick pics. Yeah, 537 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,990 you're distracted. 538 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:21,060 Right? And then some black guy jumps up, hey pause our gun, 539 00:35:21,330 --> 00:35:25,830 bang dead? Because you get there's no way you can tell me 540 00:35:25,830 --> 00:35:28,680 she wasn't distracted if she walks into their environment, 541 00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:31,830 unless you're gonna say she assassinated him. Right? Well, 542 00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:33,030 it's and that was 543 00:35:34,290 --> 00:35:38,340 that it's interesting that the jury had ordered. I mean, this 544 00:35:38,340 --> 00:35:42,000 is where we're at the story. The jury knew this. The jury has the 545 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:48,570 has the sex, apparently. So. Now I don't know if a jury of her 546 00:35:48,570 --> 00:35:51,930 peers which is the way we do it in the United States, if they 547 00:35:51,930 --> 00:35:57,060 consider what it's like to be distracted on the phone. Most 548 00:35:57,060 --> 00:36:00,750 people are distracted all the time because of their devices 549 00:36:00,810 --> 00:36:02,340 and don't even realize it. 550 00:36:04,290 --> 00:36:07,260 That's a very good point. And we've seen people walk in the 551 00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:12,000 manhole Yeah, we've seen people crash in the cars walk in front 552 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:12,990 of car know that 553 00:36:13,860 --> 00:36:19,560 pedestrian death rates are up 5% year over year with cars killing 554 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:26,340 them. And since in the in the past 10 years, it's a 41% since 555 00:36:26,370 --> 00:36:30,420 2008. So and of course phones are a part of that statistic. 556 00:36:31,260 --> 00:36:36,120 Right. So let's get let's go on with the distract distracted 557 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,580 narrative with distracted to whatever is 558 00:36:38,580 --> 00:36:41,580 on her mind after that conversation has consumed her 559 00:36:41,580 --> 00:36:42,780 attention entirely. 560 00:36:42,810 --> 00:36:45,510 In the opening statement, the defense dismissed the 561 00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:49,260 prosecution's argument that Geiger should have realised she 562 00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:51,480 was on the wrong floor in front of Bolton's 563 00:36:51,480 --> 00:37:00,630 apartment. Is this extremely obvious bright red floor mat to 564 00:37:00,630 --> 00:37:05,430 say that she was aware there was a red doormat and knowingly 565 00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:09,390 ignored it because you wanted to go into 1478 and shoot this man 566 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,620 is preposterous. 567 00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:16,290 Yeah, I love I love prosecutors and defense attorneys. They 568 00:37:16,290 --> 00:37:17,370 always paint the picture. 569 00:37:18,090 --> 00:37:21,510 So this goes to show you and I think the real problem that she 570 00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:24,300 had was when she parked on the wrong floor. I think that's 571 00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:29,100 where the distraction originally happened. Yeah, because after 572 00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:30,990 that, you're in autopilot. 573 00:37:31,980 --> 00:37:34,740 So she was driving while sexting to obviously 574 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,570 yes, yes. And they said that in the previous two clips that she 575 00:37:39,570 --> 00:37:45,060 was yeah she was she was just going at it um and that I think 576 00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:47,490 that's how she ended up on the fourth floor instead the third 577 00:37:47,490 --> 00:37:50,310 floor and then you know all the Florida set up the same so 578 00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:53,520 you're just going through your your routine your 579 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,670 memory yeah your your routine muscle memory Sure. Yeah, your 580 00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:59,760 muscle memory and that's how she ended up that the door she 581 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,090 assumed it was hers. The door the lock should have stopped 582 00:38:03,090 --> 00:38:06,480 there but it didn't and then then everything after that just 583 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,780 snowballs. But let's get into the Strategy three, done that 584 00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:13,350 revelation was this ongoing conversation between Amber 585 00:38:13,350 --> 00:38:17,160 Geiger and her partner this is evidence that the defense did 586 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,610 not want jurors to see prosecutors say both officers 587 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:24,660 deleted this conversation from their cell phones and when asked 588 00:38:24,690 --> 00:38:28,500 why diverse partner said this wasn't something he wanted to be 589 00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:33,990 reminded of. In the opening day of trial officer Amber Geiger 590 00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:36,450 saw her former partner take the stance which 591 00:38:36,450 --> 00:38:40,920 you sent provocative photographs of yourself. Yes, 592 00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:44,310 Officer Martin Rivera testified about the racy messages they 593 00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:48,330 exchanged the day she shot and killed both them John. Want to 594 00:38:48,330 --> 00:38:52,350 touch read one Geiger sent around 930 that night. 30 595 00:38:52,350 --> 00:38:57,330 minutes later she texted I need to hurry. And then I messed up. 596 00:38:57,570 --> 00:39:01,200 But using an expletive their messages prosecutor say she 597 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,130 typed while on the phone with 911 reporting she'd shot John. 598 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,470 Oh, man this. This just gets better. This is no longer a 599 00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:13,200 movie. This is a mini series 600 00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:23,460 coming to lifetime or Yes, yes. You Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So as 601 00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:30,300 you stated she was she was texting. Distracted. And that's 602 00:39:30,330 --> 00:39:35,190 how she ended up but as you heard she was even texting after 603 00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:37,740 she shot the man. Yeah. 604 00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:41,370 So this is going to show you this. 605 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:48,270 People stay off your phone. off the phone. Wow. I mean, it's the 606 00:39:48,270 --> 00:39:50,790 life or death and I don't want to oversimplify it or make it a 607 00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:54,720 phone issue. But this is how this thing can go really bad 608 00:39:54,720 --> 00:40:00,090 really fast. So what is it go back you said that the 911 thing 609 00:40:00,090 --> 00:40:05,310 Ingle about her and being scripted this length lends more 610 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:10,410 credence to that because I'm sure she texted her partner 611 00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:14,700 slash lover. I effed up he was like hold on you know 612 00:40:14,730 --> 00:40:19,500 how well yeah well and this is this is not a typical for for 613 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:22,680 law enforcement you know the minute something like this 614 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,910 happens you know that it's obviously you've killed another 615 00:40:26,910 --> 00:40:29,400 human being even if you don't kill someone you shoot you you 616 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,910 draw a fire or you draw your weapon you fire on someone 617 00:40:33,060 --> 00:40:36,510 there's a whole machine that starts to kick into gear and 618 00:40:36,510 --> 00:40:41,130 we've also been conditioned through television. Hey man, I 619 00:40:41,130 --> 00:40:44,940 got my I got my unregistered weapon on my on my calf. We'll 620 00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:48,390 just plant that on the perp you know, we're, we're conditioned 621 00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:50,790 to think wait cops do that. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm ahead of 622 00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:51,420 the game again. 623 00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:55,470 No way. Do you have to take it and put it in his hand and fire 624 00:40:55,470 --> 00:40:56,040 off a shot? 625 00:40:56,070 --> 00:40:59,400 Oh, that's the bet yeah, I'm... Hey Moe, what are you, like a professional? 626 00:41:01,350 --> 00:41:06,240 I may not be law orders I've seen you gotta get the gunpowder 627 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:07,410 residue on his hands. 628 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,390 That's right. That's right. The point is we're conditioned to 629 00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:15,870 already think that way. So even if I don't want to think that 630 00:41:15,870 --> 00:41:19,710 way, I can't help but think exactly what you said. She's 631 00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:22,680 distracted the whole thing happens she shoots them and then 632 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,110 she's with a partner Oh shit, what do I do and he's like, 633 00:41:25,110 --> 00:41:28,620 Okay, first thing you do is whatever he said you know don't 634 00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:31,590 touch it turn around jumping the jump in the air and you know, 635 00:41:31,620 --> 00:41:34,110 standing standing on one foot and call nine one whatever it 636 00:41:34,110 --> 00:41:38,070 is. That point a process is already underway. 637 00:41:39,210 --> 00:41:42,600 Yes, so let's get into the fight under strike. That clip does 638 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,500 distract it for 639 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,710 prosecutors say Geiger overlooks multiple warning signs, 640 00:41:46,860 --> 00:41:50,280 including John's bright red doormat that she was walking 641 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,730 into the wrong apartment. But defense attorneys told the jury 642 00:41:53,730 --> 00:41:57,720 she was operating on autopilot and made an innocent mistake. 643 00:41:57,810 --> 00:42:02,160 But she's thinking, oh my god, there's an intruder in my 644 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,060 apartment. And she's face to face with them. She's within 10 645 00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:11,760 yards. He starts approaching her and she reacts like any police 646 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:18,240 officer would who has a gun with confronting a burglary suspect. 647 00:42:19,890 --> 00:42:24,630 A Geiger supervisor testified that when confronting a burglar 648 00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:28,350 like this Dallas police officers are trained to do a tactical 649 00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:32,400 retreat, and then to call for backup but attorneys on both 650 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,400 scientists agreed over whether that still applies when officers 651 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,110 are off the clock. Doug. 652 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,870 Great. Let's talk about a couple of things for you go prosecutors 653 00:42:39,870 --> 00:42:41,820 also brought up a phone conversation Geiger and her 654 00:42:41,820 --> 00:42:44,550 partner had they said about three minutes or so before the 655 00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:47,820 shooting happened. Any idea what role prosecutors think this may 656 00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:48,900 have played in all of this? 657 00:42:51,090 --> 00:42:54,690 Dead prosecutors say that phone conversation lasted about 16 658 00:42:54,690 --> 00:42:58,410 minutes far longer than their usual phone calls. And they even 659 00:42:58,410 --> 00:43:01,950 said that Amber Geiger pulled her car over. While it was 660 00:43:01,950 --> 00:43:04,860 taking place. Prosecutors suggested that something may 661 00:43:04,860 --> 00:43:08,130 have happened on that call that affected her mindset just 662 00:43:08,130 --> 00:43:11,700 minutes before the shooting for President testified though that 663 00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:13,980 he didn't recall anything unusual. 664 00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:21,360 Oh man. It just gets better. There's just totally phone six 665 00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:26,160 something happened I know what happened 666 00:43:26,910 --> 00:43:30,750 616 minute phone conversation you pull over to the side of the 667 00:43:30,750 --> 00:43:33,900 row and then the gauntlet. Oh, no, no, but no 16 minute phone 668 00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:34,620 conversation. 669 00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:37,890 Come on, brother. Yeah. 670 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,440 He were to regret called. 671 00:43:40,650 --> 00:43:43,800 And what's sad about it is whatever's going on between 672 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,670 them. She pulls over to be safe during this massive distraction 673 00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:51,090 that's taking place. So she actually had whatever was going 674 00:43:51,090 --> 00:43:55,020 on. I have my thoughts was enough for her to pull over in 675 00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:59,160 that case. Oh, man. What uh, this is just a tragedy. It is 676 00:43:59,190 --> 00:44:00,330 all over. Yeah. 677 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,910 So we're going back to the ABC movie trailer, aka the ABC news 678 00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:10,170 clip. backgrounder race car through John's family 679 00:44:10,170 --> 00:44:11,550 left in anguish 680 00:44:11,610 --> 00:44:15,660 took my life. My very own life. 681 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,690 While the community grapples with unanswered questions, 682 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:22,440 we're still dealing in America with black people being killed, 683 00:44:22,740 --> 00:44:29,190 and some of the most arbitrary ways driving while black walking 684 00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:33,180 while black. And now we have the ad living while black. 685 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,030 Sparking protest over what some say is a lack of transparency 686 00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:41,520 coming from the Dallas Police Department in the wake of the 687 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:41,940 shooting. 688 00:44:43,590 --> 00:44:44,730 Wow, I don't think 689 00:44:44,730 --> 00:44:47,100 it was him. But it almost sounded like Reverend now there 690 00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:49,290 for a moment. It certainly was the kind of thing Reverend Al 691 00:44:49,290 --> 00:44:49,950 would say. 692 00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:56,430 That was the new Reverend Al. Benjamin Crump. Oh, okay. Yeah, 693 00:44:56,460 --> 00:45:03,000 Benjamin Crump from the Trayvon Martin case. Brown Tamir Rice 694 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:03,570 case so 695 00:45:03,570 --> 00:45:07,530 that was that's disgusting what he did there? Yeah, he 696 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,290 would know it's his business now. 697 00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:17,880 I know I thought oh my goodness. 698 00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:23,100 Well, you want to get where you want to get the money? You gotta 699 00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:26,640 come in you got to put the leverage. Yeah. With them. You 700 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,890 get the protesters in the street. You heard him in the 701 00:45:28,890 --> 00:45:32,430 background. Yeah. You get the weeping weepy mother on the 702 00:45:32,430 --> 00:45:37,470 news, brother. And uh, you come in with the cat walk while 703 00:45:37,470 --> 00:45:41,520 black. We can't wait with the drywall black now you can't eat 704 00:45:41,550 --> 00:45:44,220 ice cream, Rob. No, no, no, no, no. I mean that living while 705 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,520 living love life. That was genius. That's a new one. 706 00:45:47,550 --> 00:45:51,090 Right? So you can't even live? I mean, behind a locked door. I 707 00:45:51,090 --> 00:45:55,950 mean, yeah. Which is? It's true in a way, but this has. I don't 708 00:45:55,950 --> 00:46:00,210 think this case, to this point. Let me be clear, to this point. 709 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,190 had very little to do with race up until where we're at in the 710 00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:09,720 story. Let me let me practice that. Because it's gonna it's 711 00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:09,990 gonna 712 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,290 Oh, okay. Well, yeah. Let's review. Let's review for a 713 00:46:13,290 --> 00:46:18,510 second because right now, it's a distraction. A whole bunch of 714 00:46:18,510 --> 00:46:23,670 stuff happens. And this man winds up getting killed. Yes, 715 00:46:23,730 --> 00:46:27,090 but we have not heard at any point. We've there's been no 716 00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:31,200 evidence that it's a racial issue. Except until I just heard 717 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:31,710 this guy. 718 00:46:33,180 --> 00:46:37,710 Yes. Which which you when you want to get the money. And 719 00:46:37,710 --> 00:46:42,120 that's his job. When Ben Crump comes in. He's there to get the 720 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,420 money because he's not even with the prosecution. Now he's with 721 00:46:45,420 --> 00:46:48,600 the fat. He's the lawyer. He's the lawyer of the family on a 722 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,370 civil try on a civil. 723 00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:55,140 Thank you. I was gonna ask. So Sharpton has his he has his 724 00:46:55,140 --> 00:46:58,890 foundation and which sharpens business model is is kind of old 725 00:46:58,890 --> 00:47:02,550 ish. And which Sharpton of course is a reverend. He's not a 726 00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:05,820 lawyer. So what he does is he goes and protests outside the 727 00:47:05,820 --> 00:47:09,300 company until they pay him to go away. In this case, this guy's 728 00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:14,130 an attorney, and he's playing it up, but it's a civil suit. So 729 00:47:14,130 --> 00:47:17,880 he's looking at a multimillion dollar payday for the family, 730 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,870 but really for him, based upon it, which is just like the OJ 731 00:47:21,870 --> 00:47:26,820 case was acquitted on from the Federal federal court and was 732 00:47:26,910 --> 00:47:31,590 convicted in civil court. Yes. And that's going forward 733 00:47:31,650 --> 00:47:36,180 and how this apparatus works. I believe. Crump gets on the phone 734 00:47:36,180 --> 00:47:41,040 when his law matters. People get into the streets, which that 735 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,550 used to be our shopping shop right before pre internet. 736 00:47:45,150 --> 00:47:48,720 Because you had to have that you had to have the ground game you 737 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:54,480 got to replace everybody on the ground. Right. So now it's just 738 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,840 and it's kind of like auto reaction whenever we are made 739 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:02,280 because the internet is going to go into into what it does. Once 740 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,920 it start trending, but you have to get it trending. You have to 741 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,310 get notable people are a Shaun king who we've heard on this 742 00:48:08,310 --> 00:48:12,270 show before. These people are tweeting about it, it picks up 743 00:48:12,270 --> 00:48:16,200 steam. Then crop swoops in and he gives the news clip 744 00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:20,430 remind me What city did this happen in? Where did this take 745 00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:20,970 place? Again, 746 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,490 this happened in Dallas just happened Dallas, right Dallas. 747 00:48:23,490 --> 00:48:27,120 Okay. All right. Good. Yes. So that's that's how this whole 748 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,530 thing works now in the race car has been played. So now we're 749 00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:33,810 gonna get into police privilege. 750 00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:37,170 The thing that stood out to very most to me was the fact that 751 00:48:37,170 --> 00:48:40,230 when I listened to that call, not one time, did I hear Mr. 752 00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:42,360 Geiger say that she was in fear of her life. 753 00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:45,810 The Dallas Police Department was quick to respond, turning the 754 00:48:45,810 --> 00:48:48,120 case over to the state investigators, the Texas 755 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:48,690 Rangers. 756 00:48:49,170 --> 00:48:52,260 In order for us to be truly transparent to this community 757 00:48:52,290 --> 00:48:56,040 based on the circumstances, we have invited the Texas Rangers 758 00:48:56,070 --> 00:48:58,950 to conduct this, this investigation, but 759 00:48:58,950 --> 00:49:01,980 it would be a few days before Geiger was identified and 760 00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:03,270 arrested for manslaughter. 761 00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:09,480 The family had many questions for the authorities. The main 762 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:15,870 one being that this police officer should not be given any 763 00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:17,460 preferential treatment. 764 00:49:19,980 --> 00:49:24,930 Oh, yeah. Okay. That's right. Because she's a cop, no 765 00:49:24,930 --> 00:49:25,980 preferential treatment, 766 00:49:26,340 --> 00:49:32,280 right? Like cops are not gonna look out for cops in and that's 767 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,240 what the thing was, is that they didn't release her name and they 768 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:40,830 didn't arrest her for days. She's killed a man. I mean, 769 00:49:40,830 --> 00:49:44,400 that's clear. Now her motive behind it or reason behind it, 770 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,960 but somebody's dead at the end of her gun. But the police 771 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,500 department has kind of put the built that what they call the 772 00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:53,220 blue wall. 773 00:49:53,580 --> 00:49:58,140 Yeah. And that's for real and and there's understand I have 774 00:49:58,140 --> 00:50:03,030 understanding for some of that. Which whenever this happens line 775 00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:08,430 of duty or not. And the thing is thin blue line. Oh, it was It 776 00:50:08,430 --> 00:50:12,870 wasn't like a TV show about them. Yeah. So yeah, I mean I 777 00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:16,380 I'm not what I haven't heard yet is if any, if anyone spoke to 778 00:50:16,380 --> 00:50:23,940 her if he knows if there was any judicial contact with her the 779 00:50:23,940 --> 00:50:27,300 way it sounds is, hey, you know, she just kind of disappeared 780 00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:30,330 into the woodwork while while everything was shaken out and 781 00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:33,570 she was free to come and go she wanted despite the fact she 782 00:50:33,630 --> 00:50:35,430 obviously killed someone in cold blood. 783 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,540 Right. She was allowed to do that for a few days before she 784 00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:44,730 was charged and arrested. She was so that goes to show the 785 00:50:44,730 --> 00:50:49,320 police privilege, which it like you said it does exist but exist 786 00:50:49,350 --> 00:50:54,360 in every I guess union, or many unions are gonna look out for 787 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,030 themselves. Industries go look out for themselves 788 00:50:57,630 --> 00:51:01,350 and the police union is strong and very strong. 789 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:08,340 Okay, so now, we're still on the ABC backgrounder. racecard nine. 790 00:51:09,420 --> 00:51:13,410 As details of that night emerged, protests grew louder, 791 00:51:13,590 --> 00:51:15,450 many demanding justice for John. 792 00:51:17,250 --> 00:51:21,090 This is a case that raises a lot of sensitive questions, and 793 00:51:21,090 --> 00:51:24,210 there's going to be enormous public interest. And 794 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:28,050 consequently, there's more of a desire to get that evidence out 795 00:51:28,050 --> 00:51:28,710 faster. 796 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,590 More than two months after the arrest of the initial charge of 797 00:51:31,590 --> 00:51:34,770 manslaughter. A grand jury indicted Geiger who had since 798 00:51:34,770 --> 00:51:36,450 been fired on a murder charge. 799 00:51:37,230 --> 00:51:40,770 It's possible the grand jury just decided on its own, more 800 00:51:40,770 --> 00:51:45,930 likely that the prosecutors played a role in moving this 801 00:51:45,930 --> 00:51:47,220 from manslaughter to murder. 802 00:51:48,540 --> 00:51:55,290 Hmm. Okay. Okay, so now we were picking up steam here, 803 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,371 Wait a minute, wait a minute Moe. so. Does at some point 804 00:51:59,443 --> 00:52:03,423 during the story, do we get like, Soros pops up, please, 805 00:52:03,495 --> 00:52:05,130 please? Please tell me? 806 00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:13,500 No, no. So I can't confirm nor deny sorrows had me doing. But 807 00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:14,970 this is in this case, this is the new 808 00:52:14,970 --> 00:52:19,560 sorrows sound effects. Never sort of shows up. 809 00:52:20,430 --> 00:52:24,630 Okay. Yeah, Searles didn't show up in this one. But what I would 810 00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:34,140 like to do is now the way police are viewed in this country by 811 00:52:34,350 --> 00:52:40,380 either economic status, or racial divisions, is totally 812 00:52:40,380 --> 00:52:44,970 different, depending on which side of the West are you looking 813 00:52:44,970 --> 00:52:48,420 at him from? So what I wanted to do is take because this is where 814 00:52:48,420 --> 00:52:52,350 this is the crux of the problem. I think, 815 00:52:52,380 --> 00:52:56,340 well, we're coming right down to what everything in the past 816 00:52:56,910 --> 00:53:00,960 while in a long time actually in the United States has been is a 817 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,260 cops you know, and then and since Kaepernick it's on on a on 818 00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:11,130 a human, a global stage with police brutality towards black 819 00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:15,960 people, that is yes, no, that is the narrative and it's shit, 820 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,180 man, it's I think it's generally accepted by 821 00:53:18,210 --> 00:53:23,100 most. So what I want to do is get into a little history. We 822 00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:26,490 all gotta get a little history on the Moe Factz and Adam Curry 823 00:53:26,490 --> 00:53:31,470 show, because that gives context. So let's get into 824 00:53:31,470 --> 00:53:33,330 history of policing in America one 825 00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:37,020 police here to serve and protect recently facing scrutiny 826 00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:39,960 nationwide, regardless and American institution, but they 827 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,030 didn't just show up out of nowhere. Hey, guys, I'm Melissa 828 00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:44,970 Salvatore for at 12. Today we're taking a look at how police came 829 00:53:44,970 --> 00:53:48,090 to be in America, the colonies and eventually America itself 830 00:53:48,090 --> 00:53:50,880 relied on very loosely organized volunteer groups to handle 831 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,890 things like finding lost kids and catching criminals. 832 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,830 Basically glorified Neighborhood Watch is about as effective as 833 00:53:55,830 --> 00:53:59,640 Vince Vaughn's this lesson until the mid 1800s. Inspired by the 834 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,920 founding of the London Metropolitan Police Department, 835 00:54:02,010 --> 00:54:04,770 many American cities officially established their own, like the 836 00:54:04,770 --> 00:54:09,630 NYPD established in 1845, with less than 200 staff within 25 837 00:54:09,660 --> 00:54:12,960 years, New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago and La 838 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,630 would all have unified former police departments. These 839 00:54:15,630 --> 00:54:18,600 quickly became cesspools for corruption since politicians 840 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,670 would do all the hiring. If you didn't want to work with the 841 00:54:20,670 --> 00:54:24,630 guys in office, you're out. La went through 13 police chiefs in 842 00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:29,460 10 years before 1889 reform came between 19 119 30 Thanks to a 843 00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:32,460 number of progressive investigations. Now police were 844 00:54:32,460 --> 00:54:35,280 recruited and hired on merit, not on political connection. 845 00:54:36,810 --> 00:54:42,810 Okay, that's a very, very high energy. very abbreviated version 846 00:54:42,810 --> 00:54:45,720 of the history of the police in the United States. Where does it 847 00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:47,250 come from? Where's that from that? 848 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:55,440 That came from our ad 12 YouTube channel. So it's very, very, 849 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,550 very abbreviated. But what I wanted to show is police in 850 00:54:59,550 --> 00:55:05,880 itself He has an origin out of corruption. Let's be clear. From 851 00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:09,810 this from the history of it, but she's clipped to have this 852 00:55:09,810 --> 00:55:12,420 piece. We'll clear that up a little bit. 853 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,180 police reform never stopped. It just took more of a 854 00:55:15,180 --> 00:55:18,540 philosophical turn. Like in the 60s when police race relations 855 00:55:18,540 --> 00:55:21,510 came to the American forefront. And today when many of those 856 00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:24,120 same issues are back in the national conversation, no 857 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,760 surprise considering how much policing has grown. Remember 858 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:31,920 that 200 Man original NYPD today it's about 35,000 part of the 859 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,040 most recent national data available counting more than 1.1 860 00:55:35,070 --> 00:55:38,490 million state and local police employed in America. Now, you 861 00:55:38,490 --> 00:55:39,570 know, from AB 12. 862 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:46,476 You know, I need to disclose some bias I have in this Moe. 863 00:55:46,568 --> 00:55:52,251 Yes, please. During the 80s and 90s, working at MTV and in New 864 00:55:52,343 --> 00:55:57,843 York every year, Joan Jett and I would visit the orphans and 865 00:55:57,935 --> 00:56:02,610 widows of the NYPD for Christmas. And so these were 866 00:56:02,701 --> 00:56:08,385 orphans and widows of officers who are widows and widowers who 867 00:56:08,476 --> 00:56:14,251 were killed in the line of duty. So I do know some of this from 868 00:56:14,343 --> 00:56:19,751 both sides. I know a lot of people in firefighters EMTs and 869 00:56:19,843 --> 00:56:25,710 I am amazed personally at how they don't become incredibly jaded 870 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,710 in in my 871 00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:32,640 case, they have a shit and they have a shit job and and they're 872 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:38,460 getting well and this was I guess it's all a as long as I've 873 00:56:38,460 --> 00:56:41,220 really been aware of this it's there's always been pushed back 874 00:56:41,220 --> 00:56:45,810 and you know oh my god are you just shooting black people? But 875 00:56:45,810 --> 00:56:49,920 also I hear how cops talk about people you know when that when 876 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,940 they're not on camera? And it's it's a challenging mental 877 00:56:53,940 --> 00:57:00,240 occupation for sure. It's almost like being in the military you 878 00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:05,130 know, it's like when I was in Iraq and when you hear Marines 879 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,210 talking about I them damn rag heads tall heads is shocking, 880 00:57:09,210 --> 00:57:13,470 right? But go sit there for I was there for 10 days. And I was 881 00:57:13,470 --> 00:57:18,450 like, Holy crap, this is hell. So it's very hard to place 882 00:57:18,450 --> 00:57:22,470 yourself in someone else's shoes in general, anytime, anywhere. I 883 00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:25,260 just I need to just say I'm gonna have some bias because I 884 00:57:25,260 --> 00:57:28,680 got I understand a little bit from what I've experienced from 885 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:29,370 the other side. 886 00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:37,110 Okay, so here's the weird problem with policing and black 887 00:57:37,110 --> 00:57:37,650 America. 888 00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:45,390 If something goes wrong, how do we call the police? Yeah. So 889 00:57:45,390 --> 00:57:49,710 that's understood. The problem is okay, so say for instance, 890 00:57:49,710 --> 00:57:53,580 just for sake of argument if I'm a racist white person, right 891 00:57:54,660 --> 00:57:58,770 what job can I get what I can where I can harass people that I 892 00:57:58,770 --> 00:58:02,820 don't like illegally. 893 00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:13,140 Pool guard like Joe Biden. Right. Crusher popcorn Okay. 894 00:58:13,170 --> 00:58:18,630 Corn pop. Yeah. Williams Yeah, exactly. 895 00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:22,470 As Esther that's it. Esther. Esther. You so what I'm saying 896 00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:28,440 is you have these people these bad actors embed themselves into 897 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:33,570 the police department because they know this gives me access 898 00:58:33,570 --> 00:58:38,280 to go into these communities and be a bad actor and I can hide 899 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:43,440 under the protection of the blue Yeah, and 900 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:48,180 that I think is is pretty farcical I can see how someone 901 00:58:48,270 --> 00:58:53,880 on the on the force gets very jaded and mentally twisted just 902 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:54,930 because of the job. 903 00:58:55,980 --> 00:58:59,430 But know what I'm saying is coming into into I understand 904 00:58:59,430 --> 00:59:02,370 so I yeah, I've got a doubt that that's 905 00:59:03,390 --> 00:59:04,320 mean to 906 00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:08,850 I don't know it's I certainly understand the thinking that and 907 00:59:08,850 --> 00:59:11,340 we're set up to think that way no doubt that 908 00:59:11,370 --> 00:59:16,320 this is where we get into the the two perspectives. Now do I 909 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:23,130 think all cops are bad? No. Do I think all dogs are bad? No. But 910 00:59:23,130 --> 00:59:26,730 I don't like dogs. Because of the fact I can get bitten by 911 00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:30,390 one. I'm just being honest with you. So whenever I see a dog, 912 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,880 people say oh, that's my dog. He won't bite you know, he won't 913 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:33,630 bite you. 914 00:59:36,030 --> 00:59:41,100 Dogs Careful now, 915 00:59:41,490 --> 00:59:45,330 you You understand what I'm saying? Is by course I do. It's 916 00:59:45,330 --> 00:59:52,230 a nap. It's a it's a natural fear. And the reason why we're 917 00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:55,920 having this conversation is because I'm gonna go and dig out 918 00:59:55,950 --> 01:00:01,500 where that fear comes from Nice. Now we once we get there, it's 919 01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:03,990 like being in a black hole, we got to get the pit out, you 920 01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:06,810 know, we got to get it out. And then we can understand each 921 01:00:06,810 --> 01:00:11,160 other's perspective. Next, like I say, somebody breaks into my 922 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,710 house right now I'm going to pick up the phone call 911. 923 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,570 That's the natural reaction, because my tax payer dollars pay 924 01:00:18,570 --> 01:00:22,050 for them to provide the service to me that they provide. And I 925 01:00:22,050 --> 01:00:24,150 won't be thinking, Oh, I don't want to call 911 Because they're 926 01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:29,040 going to shoot me. You know, I mean, that's not, but. And I 927 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,840 want to be less detailed. Well, hold on. 928 01:00:31,260 --> 01:00:36,570 Let me ask you the question. Okay. So now up. So your house 929 01:00:36,570 --> 01:00:40,650 is broken into by a black gun, you want to you want to call 930 01:00:40,650 --> 01:00:45,900 your your protective force that you're paying for any point, do 931 01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:49,560 you think Holy shit, they might go after the wrong blackout? 932 01:00:52,350 --> 01:00:56,910 In the moment, I won't be thinking about that. Okay. So 933 01:00:56,910 --> 01:01:00,690 like I said, it's the it's the it's a weighing of threat. The 934 01:01:00,690 --> 01:01:04,890 guy breaking into my house is a way further higher threat than 935 01:01:04,890 --> 01:01:10,080 the than the police subconscious. And I want to call 936 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,880 it fear awareness of what could go wrong, right. But what you 937 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,480 have is, as we always talked about with the media doing what 938 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,000 they've done, what we illustrated in all the clips 939 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:26,430 previous stoking the fire, when you have the talk gone wrong, 940 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,440 have you know, that's why I'm saying this while we do this? 941 01:01:32,010 --> 01:01:35,130 Because it's not you have a totally different perspective 942 01:01:35,130 --> 01:01:38,790 for police. Because you didn't have the talk go wrong with you 943 01:01:38,820 --> 01:01:41,790 know, you didn't have a mother, like we had, I think showed two 944 01:01:41,790 --> 01:01:44,010 or three saying you could die at any moment? 945 01:01:44,070 --> 01:01:48,690 No, of course not. In fact, my mom of the talk we had, and I'm 946 01:01:48,690 --> 01:01:53,040 older than you. So it may have changed with half a generation 947 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,640 of the talk. I had my mom said, if you ever have a problem, if 948 01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,120 you're lost, or you don't feel safe, look for a police officer 949 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,750 and go up to them. That is the talk I received as a white man 950 01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:04,320 in America. 951 01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:10,260 Well, it's the complete opposite for most cases, because no shit 952 01:02:10,260 --> 01:02:12,540 most black people will say go the other way. If you see 953 01:02:12,540 --> 01:02:12,840 polling. 954 01:02:14,430 --> 01:02:15,870 That's so sad. 955 01:02:17,370 --> 01:02:20,490 And it's not it's not that it's okay. When you do the averages. 956 01:02:20,490 --> 01:02:23,700 It's like, okay, what is the percent chance that this could 957 01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:26,130 go wrong? Maybe 5% 3%. 958 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,350 I listened to the mentee. If I listened to the media. No, you 959 01:02:31,350 --> 01:02:34,170 said you just said 5%. I've been thinking No, much higher than 960 01:02:34,170 --> 01:02:35,490 that. That's my perception. 961 01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:39,990 Right? Because I'm able to put things in perspective. Now. I'm 962 01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:42,390 not one of those people. Like, oh, dude never happened. You 963 01:02:42,390 --> 01:02:46,380 know, I mean, I'm not that guy, either. Because I know I live in 964 01:02:46,380 --> 01:02:50,160 reality, right? And these things can happen. I'm just to make 965 01:02:50,190 --> 01:02:53,010 sure we don't draw this out too much. But and we're gonna get 966 01:02:53,010 --> 01:02:58,050 into the next clip, but blue lights in our rearview mirror, 967 01:02:58,350 --> 01:03:03,150 trigger something to us. Yeah, that's a good I'm talking about 968 01:03:03,150 --> 01:03:07,860 a good physical reaction. I mean, you're a leader. And and 969 01:03:07,860 --> 01:03:11,070 like I said, I live in a reality. I don't live in a hyper 970 01:03:11,070 --> 01:03:17,100 fear mode. But I had to be aware of this. I'm like, I don't mean, 971 01:03:17,370 --> 01:03:20,640 my life is a straight, you know, my car, you know, I'm not 972 01:03:20,670 --> 01:03:23,970 breaking any laws, but just a natural gut reaction. So what 973 01:03:23,970 --> 01:03:26,580 are we going to find out where that comes from? And this is 974 01:03:26,580 --> 01:03:31,440 from the stimulator YouTube channel. It's, it's super woke, 975 01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:39,510 super woke, alert. upset, but slave patrols the birth of 976 01:03:39,510 --> 01:03:40,410 modern police 977 01:03:40,530 --> 01:03:43,680 to understand slave patrols. It's important to understand 978 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:48,420 that the slow development of the state intervention in 979 01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:52,950 maintaining slave society, beginning with simply passing 980 01:03:52,950 --> 01:03:57,150 laws that would restrict the activities of slaves, and then 981 01:03:57,390 --> 01:04:00,900 laws on their own being insufficient authorizing any 982 01:04:01,110 --> 01:04:04,920 adult white man to enforce those laws. But then the reliance on 983 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,340 individual action proving insufficient forming into this 984 01:04:08,370 --> 01:04:12,300 body called slave patrols that were offered to the militia and 985 01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:16,410 worked as kind of a voluntary compulsory organizations meaning 986 01:04:16,410 --> 01:04:19,860 the participation was mandatory, but it wasn't a professional 987 01:04:20,190 --> 01:04:24,420 outfit that provided a way of making the entire white male 988 01:04:24,420 --> 01:04:28,920 population directly involved in maintaining slave society. As 989 01:04:28,980 --> 01:04:32,310 industrialization came to the south. And there were larger 990 01:04:32,310 --> 01:04:35,790 slave populations and southern cities, the slave patrols moved 991 01:04:36,060 --> 01:04:38,610 similarly into the city. And there they became 992 01:04:38,610 --> 01:04:41,940 professionalized, and very quickly their duties expanded 993 01:04:41,940 --> 01:04:45,090 and they became a body that we would immediately recognize as 994 01:04:45,090 --> 01:04:46,110 modern police force. 995 01:04:46,650 --> 01:04:49,440 And when was this the slave patrols the Jim Crow era set the 996 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:50,130 idea or 997 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,020 this was this was pre Civil War. Oh, God, this was pre This is 998 01:04:55,020 --> 01:05:00,690 pre Civil War when slavery still existed. So So that was just 999 01:05:00,690 --> 01:05:05,580 some background of there is a school of thought. And Colin 1000 01:05:05,580 --> 01:05:11,430 Kaepernick and even Jamel Hill she got into trouble behind this 1001 01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:19,650 from ESPN fame all right then they are yeah that police are 1002 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,700 were work came from slave patrols. Now that's a that's a 1003 01:05:23,700 --> 01:05:31,440 far stretch. But when you look at the formation of the kk k 1004 01:05:31,470 --> 01:05:38,970 post Civil War I mean post Civil War and then the infiltration of 1005 01:05:38,970 --> 01:05:41,730 southern plumps and we speak about Southern here. So the 1006 01:05:41,730 --> 01:05:45,600 police departments of the kk k, when you look at Bull Connor, 1007 01:05:45,630 --> 01:05:49,140 when you watch civil rights films and you see police dogs 1008 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,050 being sick now all this is psychological. 1009 01:05:52,110 --> 01:05:54,300 Oh, how about how about black Klansmen? 1010 01:05:55,380 --> 01:06:01,080 Right? Correct. So when you see fire hoses being sprayed on 1011 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:05,250 people, when you see billy clubs being used on people, and then 1012 01:06:05,790 --> 01:06:08,670 you know, you factor that into this narrative, you can't you 1013 01:06:08,670 --> 01:06:10,290 can see why that's not a far leap. 1014 01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:17,190 Oh, absolutely. And when we have many people, leaders in many 1015 01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:20,430 communities who witnessed that themselves, Elijah Cummings 1016 01:06:20,430 --> 01:06:24,840 comes to mind. You know, where this there's actual footage of 1017 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:29,400 stuff that happened as far as I know. And I can't discredit 1018 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,240 anything he he was a part of or wasn't a part of just him 1019 01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:36,420 constantly reminding people Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm aware of 1020 01:06:36,420 --> 01:06:37,080 that. Sure. 1021 01:06:37,740 --> 01:06:40,650 Every time they speak, they always speak about the billy 1022 01:06:40,650 --> 01:06:43,290 club going across their head and you know, their brains almost 1023 01:06:43,290 --> 01:06:45,510 get knocked loose. So that mean they keep they keep this 1024 01:06:46,110 --> 01:06:52,350 perpetuation alive. Now, we've got one more clip on slide 1025 01:06:52,350 --> 01:06:54,360 patrol alive and well in America. 1026 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,810 Slave patrol regulations for Rowan County, North Carolina 1027 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,860 1825. First, patrol shall be appointed at least four in each 1028 01:07:01,860 --> 01:07:05,610 captain's district. Second, it shall be their duty for to have 1029 01:07:05,610 --> 01:07:08,670 their number at least to patrol their respective districts once 1030 01:07:08,670 --> 01:07:11,700 in every week in failure thereof, they shall be subjected 1031 01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:15,120 to the penalties prescribed by law. Third, they shall have 1032 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,300 power to inflict corporal punishment if to be present 1033 01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:22,380 degree in their 2/4. One patroller shall have power to 1034 01:07:22,380 --> 01:07:25,350 seize any Negro slave who behaves insolently to a 1035 01:07:25,350 --> 01:07:29,040 patroller or otherwise unlawfully or suspiciously and 1036 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,580 holds such slave in custody until he can bring together a 1037 01:07:32,580 --> 01:07:36,660 requisite number of patrollers to act in the business. Fifth, 1038 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,840 previous to entering on their duties patrols shall call on 1039 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,460 some acting magistrate and take the following oath to wit, I A 1040 01:07:44,460 --> 01:07:48,810 be appointed to appointed one of the patrollers by the county 1041 01:07:49,230 --> 01:07:53,550 court of Rowan for company B's company, do hereby swear That I 1042 01:07:53,550 --> 01:07:55,920 will faithfully execute the duties of a patroller to the 1043 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,890 best of my ability, according to law and the regulations of the 1044 01:07:58,890 --> 01:08:02,370 county court. The National Humanities Center has many other 1045 01:08:02,370 --> 01:08:06,300 similar reports of its archives. slave patrols were a regular 1046 01:08:06,300 --> 01:08:09,510 feature of the South. Its first settlement by slave owning 1047 01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:13,200 Europeans until the decades after Reconstruction, when 1048 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,950 slavery was abolished, but whites in the south still wanted 1049 01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:21,810 to keep blacks in their place. The slavery patrols were largely 1050 01:08:21,810 --> 01:08:29,250 replaced by or simply renamed as the kk k. Small Town sheriff's. 1051 01:08:30,569 --> 01:08:33,929 Yeah, this is from Hartman, I think. 1052 01:08:34,830 --> 01:08:37,350 Yes, this is from the big picture Artie Yeah, 1053 01:08:37,380 --> 01:08:39,300 I don't like him. I've never liked him. 1054 01:08:40,620 --> 01:08:48,270 He's problematic. Yeah, yeah, he's super woke as well. So what 1055 01:08:48,270 --> 01:08:50,820 is the cops this would be covering the history of police? 1056 01:08:51,210 --> 01:08:54,900 This for last four clips. What is the commonality between all 1057 01:08:54,900 --> 01:08:55,830 for these clips? 1058 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,110 Well, they're presuming that all the cops are white. 1059 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,920 Now all the presenters are white. Oh, I'm so 1060 01:09:05,790 --> 01:09:14,279 in. Yeah, well, hello. Did that for a reason? You tricking me againMoe? 1061 01:09:15,210 --> 01:09:18,420 No, I'm not tricking you. What I'm saying is, yeah, that's 1062 01:09:18,420 --> 01:09:23,730 a good point. If they have no perspective, or they have a 1063 01:09:23,730 --> 01:09:25,290 perspective, but it's only one 1064 01:09:27,870 --> 01:09:34,890 Yeah. But if I'm thinking hey, this is as the conspiracy or 1065 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,400 maybe I'll read too much into this. And I clicked on I start 1066 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,100 watching the videos and it wasn't hard to find once I 1067 01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:45,720 google one, you know this, you know, your suggestions like one 1068 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,000 after the other after the other. You get into that, you know, 1069 01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:55,230 into that rabbit hole. This is how you come up with the woke 1070 01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:03,270 anti police narrative. Well, I'm Hmm, only confirms the bias that 1071 01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:04,710 you have. Yes. Well, 1072 01:10:05,130 --> 01:10:07,980 interesting in general, and I don't know if that's because 1073 01:10:07,980 --> 01:10:13,680 your Moe and Moe Factz of research. You asked me what was 1074 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,790 the cause? I? I didn't think of that for a second. That they 1075 01:10:17,790 --> 01:10:19,950 were all white. That would never have crossed my mind. 1076 01:10:20,940 --> 01:10:23,700 Now the reason why I said that is it just leads credence to 1077 01:10:23,730 --> 01:10:27,450 Yeah, I understand. I'm leaning that way. That just wrapped it 1078 01:10:27,450 --> 01:10:30,270 up for me. Oh, yeah. See? Yeah, even white people, white 1079 01:10:30,270 --> 01:10:32,730 people think so check. Yes. Good catch. 1080 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:39,240 So, alright, so going back to the I just wanted to get us to 1081 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,870 how you have, as we said before, you have the two sides watching 1082 01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:46,440 this ABC special, seven minute special, and they're picking 1083 01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:52,320 sides. This is how the two sides are formulated. You have one 1084 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,620 side that are pro police, because they look at police, 1085 01:10:55,620 --> 01:10:58,140 like you said is if you're ever in trouble, that's where you go 1086 01:10:58,140 --> 01:11:03,120 to. And then you have the other side or just like right, I don't 1087 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:08,250 know. Right. So this is how the two sides are. Formulate. So But 1088 01:11:08,250 --> 01:11:11,760 fast forward back to the case. Thank God, we don't have to 1089 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,930 worry about that. Because the Sheriff of Dallas, black woman, 1090 01:11:15,930 --> 01:11:20,550 yep. Right, Renee Hall. The judge and the case was Miss 1091 01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:25,110 Tammy camp. And let's listen to the makeup of the jury. 1092 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,900 And we did get our chance by the way to see the makeup of the 1093 01:11:27,900 --> 01:11:30,180 jury as well while our crews were in the courtroom today. So 1094 01:11:30,180 --> 01:11:32,940 here's what we know. We got eight women, for men on the 12 1095 01:11:32,940 --> 01:11:36,390 person jury five of them are black for Hispanic two people 1096 01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:39,390 are white, one person of Asian descent. There are also four 1097 01:11:39,390 --> 01:11:42,180 alternates, all of those are women, all of them are 1098 01:11:42,180 --> 01:11:46,530 sequestered now for the length of this trial. Okay. 1099 01:11:48,090 --> 01:11:51,450 So we got that we got the jury and when I say we I'm being 1100 01:11:51,540 --> 01:11:55,260 somewhat facetious, but it's like, Okay, we got the judge. We 1101 01:11:55,260 --> 01:11:57,870 got the sheriff. We got the jury. 1102 01:11:58,410 --> 01:12:00,900 What could possibly go wrong from here? Well, we 1103 01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:04,830 get right. It's like okay, but there is a reluctance. See, 1104 01:12:04,830 --> 01:12:07,680 because it's like we've seen this story before. It's like 1105 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:15,090 Louis and Lucy with the football. So it's still so 1106 01:12:16,110 --> 01:12:19,650 thanks there. Because like, man, we've seen people get out before 1107 01:12:19,650 --> 01:12:24,570 we saw the Rodney King case they have video. Beaten this man the 1108 01:12:24,570 --> 01:12:26,970 street and these guys still got off. So they're these they're 1109 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,770 anxious there. But let's hear the verdict of the case. 1110 01:12:33,390 --> 01:12:36,000 We're breaking news out of Dallas, Texas right now a jury 1111 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,660 has just found a former Dallas police officer guilty on murder 1112 01:12:39,660 --> 01:12:42,090 charges. You remember Amber Geiger. She was charged last 1113 01:12:42,090 --> 01:12:45,720 year after shooting and killing her unarmed neighbor. Ed 1114 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,390 Lavandera is outside the courthouse with a very latest ad 1115 01:12:48,390 --> 01:12:50,340 this just happened fill us in. 1116 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,980 Well, we'll let you see how it unfolded inside this courtroom 1117 01:12:55,980 --> 01:13:00,090 here in Dallas just moments ago as the judge read the verdict 1118 01:13:00,210 --> 01:13:01,410 against Amber Geiger. 1119 01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:09,630 Good morning ladies and gentlemen. The jury had been 1120 01:13:09,630 --> 01:13:13,530 reached a verdict. Miss Geiger and your team would you please 1121 01:13:13,530 --> 01:13:19,950 stand? We the jury unanimously find the defendant Amber Geiger 1122 01:13:20,010 --> 01:13:24,720 guilty of murder as charged in the indictment. No outburst. 1123 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,170 You could hear the gas there inside the courtroom as the 1124 01:13:31,230 --> 01:13:34,440 verdict was announced both them John's family the 26 year old 1125 01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:38,640 accountant who was murdered by Amber Geiger about a year ago 1126 01:13:38,730 --> 01:13:41,580 were inside that courtroom. They've been wearing red every 1127 01:13:41,580 --> 01:13:44,790 day of coming to trial here but that was both them John's 1128 01:13:44,820 --> 01:13:48,360 favorite color Amber Geiger is a family also inside that 1129 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,850 courtroom. Outside the courtroom. You can see the heavy 1130 01:13:50,850 --> 01:13:53,190 security presence here at the courthouse. You have to go 1131 01:13:53,190 --> 01:13:56,040 through a second layer of security get to get to the 1132 01:13:56,190 --> 01:13:59,580 courtroom that is at the end of the hallway. You could hear 1133 01:13:59,580 --> 01:14:02,730 cheering outside that courtroom just shortly after that verdict 1134 01:14:02,730 --> 01:14:03,690 was read here. 1135 01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:10,170 Well, this is interesting. A murderer verdict? Is the 1136 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:14,760 unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. 1137 01:14:17,580 --> 01:14:23,280 Yeah, she said she wanted to kill him. Oh, she said that. She 1138 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:24,240 was shooting to kill. 1139 01:14:24,540 --> 01:14:27,450 Ah okay, that's pretty damn premeditated. 1140 01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:31,830 Yeah, so she was shooting to kill. Now you're saying the 1141 01:14:31,830 --> 01:14:34,590 reasoning behind that? Was it because she thought she was 1142 01:14:34,590 --> 01:14:36,150 actually in her own apartment. 1143 01:14:36,210 --> 01:14:39,510 Well, premeditated is open for interpretation in this case, but 1144 01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:43,740 if she said if she said I was shooting to kill, yeah, that's 1145 01:14:43,740 --> 01:14:48,150 not just shit. That's a tough one. But yeah, okay. I'm I'm 1146 01:14:48,150 --> 01:14:48,630 listening. 1147 01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:53,160 So you heard the courtroom when they read the verdict. People 1148 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:57,660 celebrate. It's like yes, yes. I mean, because we saw this with 1149 01:14:57,660 --> 01:15:00,030 the OJ case in reverse. Yep. 1150 01:15:01,830 --> 01:15:09,840 So and, and I was living in New York when this happened, and I 1151 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:14,010 remember when the verdict came in. I mean, it rippled through 1152 01:15:14,010 --> 01:15:17,010 the entire city man, it was in the buildings. Everyone was 1153 01:15:17,010 --> 01:15:21,180 talking about it. There was no there was outrage, it was all 1154 01:15:21,180 --> 01:15:24,990 kinds of emotions. Just this the only description I can give it 1155 01:15:24,990 --> 01:15:28,800 rippling, like tea, you know, from the TV all through 1156 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:29,310 the city. 1157 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:36,660 So that was 95 I think correct? I think so. Yeah. So, what, 20 1158 01:15:36,660 --> 01:15:41,100 years later? Well, no, most people think he's guilty now. 1159 01:15:43,230 --> 01:15:45,090 I have my own bag 1160 01:15:45,090 --> 01:15:49,470 goes to show you how things I have the case Yeah, we're not 1161 01:15:49,470 --> 01:15:51,840 gonna get into the case. Of course, most telling you how 1162 01:15:51,870 --> 01:15:58,020 things change course, of course, and my community in 95 O J. B 1163 01:15:58,020 --> 01:16:01,500 and the juice was loose. He was saying like, you know, yeah, he 1164 01:16:01,500 --> 01:16:02,010 got all 1165 01:16:03,210 --> 01:16:07,500 the bananas. But now many years later, like, Screw that guy. Get 1166 01:16:08,130 --> 01:16:12,060 any black person. They know what you know why that is? No, 1167 01:16:12,090 --> 01:16:16,110 because he says I'm not black. I'm OJ. Who? 1168 01:16:18,030 --> 01:16:22,200 He was cancelled. Big time. Cancelled. Funny, 1169 01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:27,000 funny. Funny that that becomes his most egregious mistake is to 1170 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,920 say this now? I said yes. 1171 01:16:29,580 --> 01:16:32,100 And that's what we that's why they were able to make that. 1172 01:16:33,090 --> 01:16:37,650 What are the effects showed it kind of rewrote history? Wrote 1173 01:16:37,650 --> 01:16:39,780 it correctly. I don't care. I mean, how have you seen? I mean, 1174 01:16:39,780 --> 01:16:42,420 I don't really get into I can say we have to view things like 1175 01:16:42,420 --> 01:16:47,550 they are. These are sporting events. Yeah. This is like the 1176 01:16:47,550 --> 01:16:52,920 Superbowl or whatever else to the network. Yes. And I get 1177 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:57,030 people all you know, I'm I'm a cowboy. I'm a Redskin. You know, 1178 01:16:57,030 --> 01:17:00,390 no, you're not. You're out of shape guy sitting on a couch. 1179 01:17:00,390 --> 01:17:03,090 You're gonna be What are you talking about? I miss? Yeah. 1180 01:17:03,450 --> 01:17:06,840 Yes, me included. I mean, what I'm saying. I mean, me included. 1181 01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:10,860 I mean, I'm not actually on the team. But it's the same 1182 01:17:10,860 --> 01:17:12,960 manipulation. So 1183 01:17:13,050 --> 01:17:17,370 die has done for it done for enormous profit in sports world. 1184 01:17:17,370 --> 01:17:18,870 But yeah, of course, it's manipulation. 1185 01:17:19,500 --> 01:17:22,650 And done for the same way here enormous profits. I would like 1186 01:17:22,650 --> 01:17:26,160 to see how many clicks this case got or how many, you know, 1187 01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:31,170 that's why I said when I started to show off, I said that, um, 1188 01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:37,710 made it through the social, you know, manipulation, because you 1189 01:17:37,710 --> 01:17:40,650 can't avoid this conversation anywhere. And it was just like, 1190 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:45,390 Oh, God, you sit down to lunch table, and he was like, that's 1191 01:17:45,390 --> 01:17:47,640 what people were talking about. You go online, that's what 1192 01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,660 people were talking about. But even for even more reason, as 1193 01:17:51,660 --> 01:17:56,250 we're going to see, so, okay, she's found guilty. So it's 1194 01:17:56,250 --> 01:18:02,160 like, it's a huge win. It's like, yes, we got her. Um, so 1195 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,580 let's listen to Benjamin Crump. Talk about the murderer, Ben 1196 01:18:05,580 --> 01:18:05,940 Crump. 1197 01:18:05,940 --> 01:18:11,040 When the verdict came down. Most of us were surprised that she 1198 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,800 was found guilty. And that's pathetic. 1199 01:18:15,420 --> 01:18:20,490 Thomas, unbelievable. My co counsels Dara Washington, Lee 1200 01:18:20,490 --> 01:18:25,440 Merritt, and we counted the night before, how many 1201 01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:30,780 commentators? I mean, it is white lawyers who will be saying 1202 01:18:30,780 --> 01:18:35,430 the totally opposite thing had both them went into the wrong 1203 01:18:35,430 --> 01:18:39,690 apartment and killed Amber Geiger. But they all say there 1204 01:18:39,690 --> 01:18:44,130 is no way you're gonna get a murder conviction on this case. 1205 01:18:44,130 --> 01:18:48,330 In fact, most of them said she was going to walk. So it is so 1206 01:18:48,330 --> 01:18:53,790 bittersweet this morning, that we can come Tom and Sylvan talk 1207 01:18:53,790 --> 01:18:58,320 about how when we have people show up for jury duty, because 1208 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,610 we have a diverse jury that we can get equal justice under the 1209 01:19:02,610 --> 01:19:07,860 law. And what a good feeling it is for the family and for so 1210 01:19:07,860 --> 01:19:12,780 many other who prayed for Justice Thomas, pray that this 1211 01:19:12,780 --> 01:19:16,560 woman wouldn't get away with this because what message would 1212 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,680 that have sent to the world? Where would black people be safe 1213 01:19:19,890 --> 01:19:23,130 in America from not being killed by police? 1214 01:19:24,090 --> 01:19:25,410 Fuck this guy. And 1215 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:33,240 crop the same guy. Or two from before? Yeah, he's talking to 1216 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,170 you, guy he's talking to you notice your guy? Yeah. Tom 1217 01:19:37,170 --> 01:19:37,590 Joyner. 1218 01:19:38,370 --> 01:19:42,480 It's my Oh, my gosh. Hey, you already set me straight on Tom 1219 01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:49,170 Joyner is he's my ex guys no longer in the club. Wow. But 1220 01:19:49,170 --> 01:19:52,140 this also? I mean, I mean, you just, 1221 01:19:53,010 --> 01:19:56,100 this is Black radio. Yes. Early in the morning. That's right. 1222 01:19:56,100 --> 01:20:00,030 And like I said, that's a whole nother I want to go back to my 1223 01:20:00,030 --> 01:20:04,380 thing rang the bell on the previous clip and they said they 1224 01:20:04,410 --> 01:20:10,830 read was his favorite color. He had to read doormat. doormat 1225 01:20:11,580 --> 01:20:14,310 about it. Theremin please. 1226 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,260 Whoa, what's going on Moe, alright, theramin is playing 1227 01:20:23,310 --> 01:20:28,530 I'm not gonna harp on this much. But hermetic theater. 1228 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:34,290 hermetic theater. Yes. Not familiar 1229 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,270 is where they say like numerology is important in these 1230 01:20:39,270 --> 01:20:43,140 cases and color coding. Now I'm going way out there, but this is 1231 01:20:43,140 --> 01:20:46,020 for the, this is for the, for my people in the back. 1232 01:20:48,780 --> 01:20:52,050 Everything she wore was blue. Oh, God, 1233 01:20:53,370 --> 01:20:59,280 our dresses were blue. On the other side. Right, everything 1234 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,280 was red. I'm just gonna leave that where it is. I'm gonna 1235 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,460 leave that where it said, which is that? I just want to say that 1236 01:21:05,460 --> 01:21:07,920 for the people that know what I'm talking about. And that goes 1237 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,430 back to the Masonic houses and we Illuminati kind of stuff. 1238 01:21:11,550 --> 01:21:14,700 But it is also a Bloods and Crips color thing or is that 1239 01:21:14,700 --> 01:21:18,060 just my, our Democrat or Republican? Well, obviously I 1240 01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:22,320 mean, there's a lot of red and blue stuff. So yeah, throw that 1241 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:23,520 in there. Yes. Nice. 1242 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,500 I just thought that was weird. 1243 01:21:26,940 --> 01:21:29,790 All we need is a number 33 to pop up. And I'm convinced. 1244 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:35,970 Right? So I always I knew why she was wearing blue. On just on 1245 01:21:35,970 --> 01:21:40,080 the on the level because it's like our she's trying to 1246 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:47,340 identify as police. Every dress she wore was blue. Every picture 1247 01:21:47,340 --> 01:21:50,820 in Korab. Look, every time you say please other pictures to 1248 01:21:50,820 --> 01:21:56,280 people please sharing with me. But she was signaling that that 1249 01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,530 it was built and that's gonna be important these next few clips. 1250 01:21:58,920 --> 01:21:59,520 So 1251 01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:04,404 I love you Moe. Good. I just thought we were done. No, no, 1252 01:22:04,482 --> 01:22:06,120 there's more. No, no, 1253 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,910 no, no visionary crop. verdict. Two, 1254 01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:14,160 let's talk about conviction. And the time that he's going to be 1255 01:22:14,340 --> 01:22:18,240 the she's gonna get for the murder conviction. 1256 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:22,530 How much time can she get? What's the maximum, she can get 1257 01:22:22,530 --> 01:22:28,890 up to 99 years in prison, literally. In fact, nobody 1258 01:22:28,890 --> 01:22:31,740 thinks this is going to happen. They could have put in for the 1259 01:22:31,740 --> 01:22:35,430 death penalty. But this is Texas where they kill more people, 1260 01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:38,370 especially black and brown people than anywhere else in 1261 01:22:38,430 --> 01:22:43,950 America. But if she can get from five years to not deny yours is 1262 01:22:44,070 --> 01:22:48,270 all up to the jury or they can do it down with departure as 1263 01:22:48,270 --> 01:22:53,100 well, Tom, however, I look at this jury and the composition of 1264 01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:56,700 this jury. And I believe with the prosecutor bringing out 1265 01:22:56,700 --> 01:23:01,830 about her Facebook post that is could arguably be considered 1266 01:23:01,830 --> 01:23:07,470 racism in many regards, that this jury is not going to let 1267 01:23:07,470 --> 01:23:13,710 these intellectual justifications stop them from 1268 01:23:13,710 --> 01:23:18,750 returning a verdict that is appropriate in this end justify 1269 01:23:18,750 --> 01:23:24,210 the killing of this black man eating ice cream on his couch in 1270 01:23:24,210 --> 01:23:27,510 his apartment where he had every legal right to be. 1271 01:23:28,440 --> 01:23:31,890 Oh, nice. Let's bring in a little racism and let's kill her 1272 01:23:32,940 --> 01:23:34,620 ponente Yeah. 1273 01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:39,240 Yeah, to stop that flame. So now he brought up the makeup of the 1274 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:39,780 jury. 1275 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,400 I'm sorry, let me just stop you for a second. I live. I live in 1276 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:52,320 Texas. I don't like killing anything. I don't hunt. But the 1277 01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:56,700 obsession we have in the United States with killing. I think 1278 01:23:56,700 --> 01:23:59,430 that we should definitely have capital punishment, but we 1279 01:23:59,430 --> 01:24:02,580 should televise it. We should put it on TV so everybody can 1280 01:24:02,580 --> 01:24:06,060 see it. And not just this oh, let's let's kill her. Let's kill 1281 01:24:06,060 --> 01:24:09,330 him death penalty. You know, that can't just be happening in 1282 01:24:09,330 --> 01:24:15,000 secret. So I'm not against this. And I can understand if 1283 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,120 something happened to someone. I love how I would feel about it. 1284 01:24:18,510 --> 01:24:21,300 And living in Texas. I would probably be quite Wait, wait, 1285 01:24:21,300 --> 01:24:22,320 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 1286 01:24:22,620 --> 01:24:24,660 wait, wait, wait, wait, no, no. 1287 01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:30,060 Put a marker in that statement that you just said. You remember 1288 01:24:30,060 --> 01:24:34,500 how you will feel? I didn't mean abrupt you but out but I want 1289 01:24:34,500 --> 01:24:39,720 you to remember that course. Remember that? Okay. So if you 1290 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,180 can finish your thought you want to but I use one. Do you know 1291 01:24:42,180 --> 01:24:45,780 what I was saying? I'm good. Yes. Okay, so now I want you to 1292 01:24:45,780 --> 01:24:50,190 do two two things for me. Play the jury make up again and then 1293 01:24:50,190 --> 01:24:55,140 go right into the ex Dallas officers and 1294 01:24:55,770 --> 01:24:58,170 we did get our chance by the way to see the makeup of the jury as 1295 01:24:58,170 --> 01:25:00,300 well while our crews were in the courtroom today. So Here's what 1296 01:25:00,300 --> 01:25:03,870 we know we got eight women, for men on the 12 person jury, five 1297 01:25:03,870 --> 01:25:07,260 of them are black for Hispanic two people are white, one person 1298 01:25:07,260 --> 01:25:10,440 of Asian descent. There are also four alternates all of those are 1299 01:25:10,440 --> 01:25:13,680 women. All of them are sequestered. Now for the length 1300 01:25:13,710 --> 01:25:14,820 of this trial. 1301 01:25:15,210 --> 01:25:18,570 A jury has sentenced former Dallas police officer Amber 1302 01:25:18,570 --> 01:25:22,110 Geiger to 10 years in prison. She was convicted of murdering 1303 01:25:22,110 --> 01:25:25,260 her unarmed neighbor both of them John in his own apartment. 1304 01:25:25,590 --> 01:25:28,140 Omar via Franco reports from Dallas. 1305 01:25:28,170 --> 01:25:31,410 Yes, the same jury that convicted former police officer 1306 01:25:31,410 --> 01:25:34,800 Amber Geiger of murder has now decided her sentence. 1307 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:39,510 We the jury find unanimously that the defendant did not cause 1308 01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:42,900 the death of both John while under the immediate influence of 1309 01:25:42,900 --> 01:25:47,220 sudden passion, arising from inadequate cause and assess the 1310 01:25:47,220 --> 01:25:51,270 defendant's punishment at 10 years imprisonment in the Texas 1311 01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:52,950 Department of Criminal Justice 1312 01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:57,120 Geiger face between five years and life behind bars for killing 1313 01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,430 her neighbor. 26 year old both them John. 1314 01:25:59,670 --> 01:26:02,340 Sounds like we had some compassion from the female 1315 01:26:02,340 --> 01:26:03,300 members of the jury. 1316 01:26:04,530 --> 01:26:08,700 10 years for murder. Is he talking about a huge kick in the 1317 01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:12,450 balls? Yeah. Now speaking from one perspective now, you've 1318 01:26:12,450 --> 01:26:16,230 talked about a huge kick in the balls. I got shot dead. Eating 1319 01:26:16,230 --> 01:26:19,980 ice cream and it's apartment. And the lady gets 10 years. 1320 01:26:20,010 --> 01:26:24,390 Oh, and a, Moe. If it was if it was my son who got killed? 1321 01:26:24,465 --> 01:26:28,316 Honestly, just just hypothetically speaking, I'd be 1322 01:26:28,392 --> 01:26:30,960 waiting for it to come out of jail 1323 01:26:33,210 --> 01:26:34,710 after 10 You understand that I 1324 01:26:34,710 --> 01:26:35,670 think you do the same. 1325 01:26:37,950 --> 01:26:44,070 Remember you say that you're saying because all right. Okay, 1326 01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:46,260 go into outrage at the amber Geiger. 1327 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:51,300 There is no piece of no Justin he should have been 25 to 99 1328 01:26:51,330 --> 01:26:54,870 The Rage was immediate in the crowd watching the murder trial. 1329 01:26:54,900 --> 01:27:01,800 How many? Before you understand that our lives matter 1330 01:27:01,830 --> 01:27:08,520 rage at a sentence of just 10 years. But then, minutes later, 1331 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,640 both John's mother stepped up to the microphone wanting to talk 1332 01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,070 about more than just the sentence now 1333 01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:22,110 corruption that we saw during this process must stop. And it 1334 01:27:22,110 --> 01:27:29,430 must stop for you. Because after now I leave Dallas, but you live 1335 01:27:29,430 --> 01:27:32,940 in Dallas, and it must stop for 1336 01:27:32,940 --> 01:27:33,840 everyone. 1337 01:27:34,620 --> 01:27:39,480 Allow me to nuance what I said if it was my son. That's how I'd 1338 01:27:39,480 --> 01:27:44,310 feel in it. What happened here is justice took place. I wasn't 1339 01:27:44,310 --> 01:27:51,240 in the court. The jury seems pretty balanced. It doesn't make 1340 01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,630 none of this. It's a tragedy. None of it makes anything right. 1341 01:27:57,930 --> 01:28:00,210 Shit, man, this is very tough. There's 1342 01:28:00,210 --> 01:28:06,480 one piece of evidence. And I left it out. You bastard. So we 1343 01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:09,660 can go back. Alright, so you remember in the mom and the 1344 01:28:09,900 --> 01:28:13,380 original question. I want love to go through the process and 1345 01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:18,390 the love and the love and the love right. Now she's like, Oh, 1346 01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:22,770 it's the corruption. You know. It's interesting. All right. So 1347 01:28:24,210 --> 01:28:30,450 Brenton John, is Botham's brother, Amber in between the 1348 01:28:30,780 --> 01:28:36,570 guilty verdict. And the cynics sentencing. They allowed the 1349 01:28:36,570 --> 01:28:39,120 family to get what they call impact statements. Yeah, 1350 01:28:39,150 --> 01:28:43,140 when you get to address your you get to address the killer or 1351 01:28:43,140 --> 01:28:43,890 whatever it is. 1352 01:28:44,580 --> 01:28:49,500 Right. Let's listen to John Brant. And he's gonna say this. 1353 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:55,650 He's what he said is representative of how the whole 1354 01:28:55,650 --> 01:28:58,770 brain John family felt about the case. 1355 01:28:59,190 --> 01:29:07,890 I can speak for myself, I I forgive you. And I know if you 1356 01:29:07,890 --> 01:29:11,490 go to God and ask Him, He will forgive you 1357 01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,720 and I don't think anyone could say it. Again. I'm speaking for 1358 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:26,400 myself. I'm not even bad for my family. But I love you just like 1359 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:35,910 anyone else. And I'm not gonna say I hope you rot and die. 1360 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:42,900 Because like my brother did, but I see I personally want the best 1361 01:29:42,900 --> 01:29:50,190 for you. And I wasn't gonna ever say this in front of my family 1362 01:29:50,190 --> 01:29:51,720 or anyone but 1363 01:29:54,180 --> 01:30:05,340 I don't even want you to go to jail. I want the best Free I 1364 01:30:05,340 --> 01:30:08,820 don't know if it's possible, but can I give her a hug? Please? 1365 01:30:08,850 --> 01:30:13,530 Oh, please. Wow. 1366 01:30:14,070 --> 01:30:20,850 I didn't hear about this. And he got killed for the dead he did. 1367 01:30:22,410 --> 01:30:26,730 This man said, I don't want you to go to jail. I want the best 1368 01:30:26,730 --> 01:30:34,170 for you. Can I hugger? Please? Wow, disgusting. 1369 01:30:35,610 --> 01:30:38,250 And the reason why I say that is I can't I'm not saying people 1370 01:30:38,250 --> 01:30:42,210 can't be forgiving. But this factored into the sentencing. 1371 01:30:44,430 --> 01:30:52,380 Ah, wait a minute. Okay, so this is pre sentencing. Whoa, well, 1372 01:30:52,380 --> 01:30:54,780 corruption from her own family. 1373 01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:59,100 Wow, would that be Adam? 1374 01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:03,960 I'm afraid to say anything at this point. 1375 01:31:04,830 --> 01:31:10,740 I will say it for you. Okay. Ben Crump. What did I say? He does? 1376 01:31:11,550 --> 01:31:15,390 Yeah, he Bri he makes it rain? He does. 1377 01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:22,050 Part of that deal is we can't have an uprising in the streets. 1378 01:31:23,370 --> 01:31:27,240 Can't have a bloodlust? Because we seen that I mean, that kind 1379 01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:32,040 of what factored into the Ferguson? Sure. And when, when 1380 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,550 the father got up there say, you know, we won't have any peace. 1381 01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,790 You know, he was kind of like, you know, now I want to say 1382 01:31:38,790 --> 01:31:41,580 inside and right. But it mean, he has a visceral reaction that 1383 01:31:41,580 --> 01:31:44,640 you had. And I mean, you were speaking hypothetically, and he 1384 01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:49,440 was speaking really know from the heart. Yeah. So that's and 1385 01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:52,110 this is not the only case where you've seen this. We've seen 1386 01:31:52,110 --> 01:31:54,480 this over and over 1387 01:31:54,480 --> 01:31:57,900 again, I understand what you're saying. So you're saying that, 1388 01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:03,990 Ben Crump. That's where the deal was cut. Ben Crump says, Okay, 1389 01:32:05,670 --> 01:32:11,310 we're not going away. We need to we need to get paid. And this 1390 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,460 just has to lead to a conviction. Now how that works 1391 01:32:14,460 --> 01:32:17,370 inside a jury and corrupting a jury. I don't know. I don't want 1392 01:32:17,370 --> 01:32:21,120 to go. It doesn't it doesn't but but it's like we need to get 1393 01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,880 paid. But we're also going to temper everybody so that don't 1394 01:32:23,910 --> 01:32:26,850 go too crazy. Is that the idea? So we don't have riots in the 1395 01:32:26,850 --> 01:32:30,030 streets. So this Ben Crump works for all sides. 1396 01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:35,040 Exactly. That guy's evil. Boulais! 1397 01:32:37,770 --> 01:32:44,310 No no no no, I didn't have a sound effect for Boulais Wow, 1398 01:32:44,340 --> 01:32:45,060 yes 1399 01:32:49,020 --> 01:32:54,180 shoot you got me. You guys his artworks 1400 01:32:54,330 --> 01:32:59,340 you talk to him you go on the radio all the death penalty. But 1401 01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:05,310 now I'm speculating speculating here. But we've seen this over 1402 01:33:05,310 --> 01:33:09,270 and over and over again and family comes out. Oh, we love 1403 01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:13,770 Him and we forgive and we I mean immediately it's not like you 1404 01:33:13,770 --> 01:33:17,610 had you know, let me let me let me see him sitting in jail for 1405 01:33:17,610 --> 01:33:22,230 you know for a few years let me let me say Reese calibrate 1406 01:33:22,230 --> 01:33:27,690 Hatfield? No, no, no, no. He got up on the stand and says I don't 1407 01:33:27,690 --> 01:33:34,170 want to see you go to jail and then back to hug her. The woman 1408 01:33:34,170 --> 01:33:37,530 that shot and killed your brother that's pretty big. He I 1409 01:33:37,530 --> 01:33:42,840 think he oversold it you saw those AMS coming your way for 1410 01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:46,080 the people don't know what AMS all those are millions. You saw 1411 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:47,730 the AMS come your way racks. 1412 01:33:49,050 --> 01:33:50,910 Right. Make it rain. 1413 01:33:52,530 --> 01:33:56,250 Oh, get out here and he got up there. And I think like you said 1414 01:33:56,250 --> 01:33:57,510 he didn't plan and say that 1415 01:33:59,580 --> 01:34:00,420 overplayed Yeah. 1416 01:34:00,930 --> 01:34:04,080 Okay, so let's go to bottom. John brother clean up. 1417 01:34:05,310 --> 01:34:10,140 By the time I didn't know the cameras on I after the 1418 01:34:10,140 --> 01:34:16,620 sentencing I so I'm most family leave the room and follow with 1419 01:34:16,620 --> 01:34:21,810 Ranbir. And we left and came back. Upon coming back. I didn't 1420 01:34:21,810 --> 01:34:24,570 think any comments to be on I thought it was over because we 1421 01:34:24,570 --> 01:34:29,790 have the conviction. We have the sentencing. And I was asked to 1422 01:34:30,660 --> 01:34:34,830 they asked all of us, any of us who wanted to do the victim 1423 01:34:35,730 --> 01:34:39,990 impact statement and that's when I I came up and I said I'll do 1424 01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:47,580 it. And then house of not knowing the attention would get 1425 01:34:47,610 --> 01:34:54,600 what I did based on what I had to say. I meant what I said and 1426 01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,150 I thank God I got the courage she says 1427 01:34:58,170 --> 01:35:02,340 it's important to note that in Brandis told me before that two 1428 01:35:02,340 --> 01:35:04,380 minutes before he gave the impact statement, he wasn't 1429 01:35:04,380 --> 01:35:07,710 given any statement. And then two minutes later, he was on the 1430 01:35:07,740 --> 01:35:11,550 on the, in the witness box, speaking his heart to the person 1431 01:35:11,550 --> 01:35:16,230 who murdered his brother just showed incredible bravery. But 1432 01:35:16,230 --> 01:35:18,930 it wasn't something done for show. And I think that's the 1433 01:35:18,930 --> 01:35:21,120 reason it's connected so well all over the country. 1434 01:35:21,510 --> 01:35:24,240 Wow. Where did that come from? Where'd you get that? Yeah, 1435 01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:29,400 that was post post. The Senate seeing I think a few days later, 1436 01:35:29,430 --> 01:35:32,850 they had a press conference. And that was the other lawyer of the 1437 01:35:32,850 --> 01:35:37,560 family speaking. He was the local lawyer they got and then 1438 01:35:37,590 --> 01:35:40,740 crops we've seen things happen. You have a local affiliate, and 1439 01:35:40,740 --> 01:35:44,820 then you have you know, the big man come in and he um, he works 1440 01:35:44,820 --> 01:35:47,370 his match. Where's this? Where's he? Where's this family 1441 01:35:47,370 --> 01:35:50,790 from? Originally? I can't place the accents. Like Creole is 1442 01:35:50,820 --> 01:35:51,090 like, 1443 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:57,210 No, I think it's Hey, they say st something in St. Lucia St. 1444 01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:03,090 Yes. St. Lucia. That's it. Okay. All right. Okay, so once he said 1445 01:36:03,090 --> 01:36:05,820 that, I forgive you. And like I said his sentiments were 1446 01:36:05,820 --> 01:36:09,120 representative of all the family because the father got up there 1447 01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,540 said, oh, I want to be your friend. And oh, man, it was 1448 01:36:12,540 --> 01:36:17,010 disgusting. Um, by just let his work because he was the most 1449 01:36:17,010 --> 01:36:21,450 egregious and aironet killed him. I mean, actually, 1450 01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:25,530 literally, they want to kill him. Because they looked at like 1451 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:32,790 you. He was the C word. Okay, I'm gonna say that is by 1452 01:36:32,820 --> 01:36:35,880 definition of the word Kooning at its finest. 1453 01:36:37,500 --> 01:36:39,390 Yeah, we've talked that we've talked about this. 1454 01:36:40,020 --> 01:36:43,740 Yes. See, oh, in for people don't know Kooning. Yes, you get 1455 01:36:43,770 --> 01:36:48,870 your brother is killed. Called blurred. And you get this. Oh, I 1456 01:36:48,870 --> 01:36:52,080 love you. And I don't want to see you and I want to hug you 1457 01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:55,170 please. As they jokey. What kind of. 1458 01:36:55,680 --> 01:37:01,650 So are you insinuating here that Crump said M's are common racks 1459 01:37:01,650 --> 01:37:05,310 and stacks gonna make it rain? Chill? Yes. Geez. 1460 01:37:06,660 --> 01:37:09,660 You can't you can't talk crap. Because if he gets up there 1461 01:37:09,660 --> 01:37:13,290 said, I won't see your burden. Like, I want to get this clip 1462 01:37:13,290 --> 01:37:18,240 but Samuel Jackson and Tom McHugh. Yeah, did it. And I hope 1463 01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:22,830 they burn the hell. I mean, that's what you Yeah, yeah. If 1464 01:37:22,830 --> 01:37:27,780 you do that the streets can explode. Okay, kidding. And so 1465 01:37:27,780 --> 01:37:30,660 it's like, hey, you know, I mean, I think there's a wink and 1466 01:37:30,660 --> 01:37:35,670 a nod nod there. You know, it's like, yeah, how walk back, you 1467 01:37:35,670 --> 01:37:36,090 know? 1468 01:37:36,690 --> 01:37:40,770 Well, no, but now I'm giving myself some pause. Okay, so I'm 1469 01:37:40,770 --> 01:37:43,800 putting myself in this in the family in the same situation. 1470 01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:47,160 And this is what I'm told. It's like, okay, you can go, we can 1471 01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:51,390 rant and rave, and we can get all you know, upset. He's not 1472 01:37:51,390 --> 01:37:55,110 coming back. But here's the alternative. If we do X, Y, and 1473 01:37:55,110 --> 01:38:01,770 Z, and these people are distraught. And you've got a 1474 01:38:01,770 --> 01:38:04,260 crop, right or wrong. Yeah, I'm saying you gotta go. I'm just 1475 01:38:04,260 --> 01:38:06,900 trying to play it up. And you got to Crump talking in your ear 1476 01:38:06,900 --> 01:38:09,390 saying, okay, you know, this is exactly what he would say, look, 1477 01:38:09,390 --> 01:38:13,980 he's not coming back. But you know, here's that, here's $10 1478 01:38:13,980 --> 01:38:18,240 million, or whatever the number is, and I'm gonna get this for 1479 01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:19,650 you. But here's how we have to do it. 1480 01:38:20,700 --> 01:38:25,350 Yes, we have to live off the bottom. Yes. Know how that 1481 01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:30,360 conversation goes. I know how it goes as my you know, he's not 1482 01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:35,100 here anymore. But you know, we could do great things. You know 1483 01:38:35,100 --> 01:38:38,220 what, we bought them low. And you heard that a lot with 1484 01:38:38,220 --> 01:38:41,700 everybody. What will bow womb? Yeah, we have like bow. I think 1485 01:38:41,700 --> 01:38:44,550 the hashtag was like live like bow or something like that. 1486 01:38:45,090 --> 01:38:47,730 There was a hat. They had T shirts with hashtags on him and 1487 01:38:47,730 --> 01:38:54,210 Chris red t shirt. Red, red, red. T shirts. Yeah. Yeah, with 1488 01:38:54,210 --> 01:38:57,510 some kind of weird. Go look at pictures. You're some kind of 1489 01:38:57,510 --> 01:39:01,140 weird pyramid shape on it. I'm just saying, 1490 01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,230 you know, you've I'm just telling you this this. This turn 1491 01:39:04,230 --> 01:39:07,410 in the show has made me sad in many ways. 1492 01:39:08,610 --> 01:39:12,300 Oh, it gets worse. I'm sorry to say you but okay. 1493 01:39:12,660 --> 01:39:13,500 Okay. 1494 01:39:15,480 --> 01:39:19,140 Ain't no happy ending to this one. Oh, I'm sorry folks. So 1495 01:39:19,140 --> 01:39:24,150 branch out John wasn't the only one accused of cloning. Let's 1496 01:39:24,150 --> 01:39:29,520 listen to this is TD Hip Hop media on YouTube when she got 1497 01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:34,890 down from the bench in gave Amber Geiger a hug after the 10 1498 01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:40,890 year sentencing goes to show how scared the judge actually was 1499 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:46,860 for her livelihood. As it pertains to remaining a judge. 1500 01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:51,630 You don't bite the hand that feeds you, nor the hand that 1501 01:39:51,630 --> 01:39:54,690 protects you. Now let's get into the conversation at hand or I 1502 01:39:54,690 --> 01:39:57,960 should say the topic at hand. And that's about the amber 1503 01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,020 Geiger trial. Now I'm not going to be The Dead Horse with this 1504 01:40:01,020 --> 01:40:03,660 one, but I do want to talk about something that I have not heard 1505 01:40:03,660 --> 01:40:06,600 a lot of people talk about already. And it's something that 1506 01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:12,810 you may not know, in regards to, we'll say put in context to why 1507 01:40:12,810 --> 01:40:17,010 the actions of the judge and the black police officer in the 1508 01:40:17,010 --> 01:40:20,280 courtroom during the amber Geiger trial was the way it was 1509 01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:24,600 why it was so before finish, and nonsensical watching the judge 1510 01:40:24,630 --> 01:40:29,220 hug Amber Geiger after being sentenced to 10 years and after 1511 01:40:29,220 --> 01:40:32,910 being found guilty for murder, you see the black female police 1512 01:40:32,910 --> 01:40:36,870 officer fixing the hair of amber Geiger. This was all very 1513 01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:40,680 strange and nonsensical. And before finish and left a lot of 1514 01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:44,040 us wondering what in the world is actually going on here. 1515 01:40:45,090 --> 01:40:49,680 Now TD this is only on YouTube, YouTube, TV hip hop, yes, yes. 1516 01:40:49,710 --> 01:40:51,960 Well, they're doing a great job and following what the 1517 01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:56,610 mainstream does is just making hay out of dead people. 1518 01:40:57,420 --> 01:41:00,150 So let me put some context of what he's talking about there. 1519 01:41:00,900 --> 01:41:05,280 So after the sentencing, Miss Tammy, and this is what they 1520 01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:11,430 call her now. Tammy, the mammy camp comes down and I'm being 1521 01:41:11,430 --> 01:41:16,710 serious to me. These people are hated. In the literal quote, the 1522 01:41:16,710 --> 01:41:20,580 judge, the judge, the black judge, the one we're counting on 1523 01:41:20,580 --> 01:41:21,570 bring it home, Tammy? 1524 01:41:22,260 --> 01:41:24,900 She doesn't do Samson. She doesn't do sentencing. She 1525 01:41:25,440 --> 01:41:28,770 got Yeah, no weights. I'll tell you what, what she does do. 1526 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:35,160 Okay. She comes out and lifts up the stand. Hogs the shooter, the 1527 01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:40,050 convicted shooter, gives her her personal Bible, her personal 1528 01:41:40,050 --> 01:41:51,120 Bible that's me, let me give you some perspective to personal 1529 01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:55,800 Bibles and black people inside baseball. Giving you a personal 1530 01:41:55,800 --> 01:42:00,900 Bible that's kind of like so you do give it to another family 1531 01:42:00,900 --> 01:42:04,680 member. You know, like, you know, your grandma gave you like 1532 01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:06,450 child on Reference Bible for some. 1533 01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,140 I have a professional Bible and given it anybody. 1534 01:42:10,740 --> 01:42:16,710 Right. The judge comes off the stand. The blue judge, the blue 1535 01:42:17,220 --> 01:42:25,440 judge. Ah, comes out this day. And she ain't the only one. 1536 01:42:25,650 --> 01:42:29,310 There was an unnamed cop. I couldn't find her name. When she 1537 01:42:29,310 --> 01:42:35,040 was convicted foul guilty. The black woman comes over to her 1538 01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:38,940 hand strokes her hair like she's a small little child coming in 1539 01:42:38,940 --> 01:42:44,190 her fingers through her hair, consoling her. The blue bailiffs 1540 01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:46,560 the blue bailiff. 1541 01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:52,560 This ain't black and white, bro. This is red and blue. This is 1542 01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,620 blue. This is bullies. Yes, sir. 1543 01:43:00,510 --> 01:43:03,630 And that's what I was saying is just like, even. And like I say, 1544 01:43:03,660 --> 01:43:07,620 we didn't want Tammy to do anything illegal to tilt the 1545 01:43:07,620 --> 01:43:11,250 trial. We didn't want him saying we don't. But when you see 1546 01:43:11,490 --> 01:43:16,560 people put in places. You got the conviction. And then the 1547 01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:20,100 family does this. It's like, I will tell you what it is. It's 1548 01:43:20,100 --> 01:43:22,080 something that you will say it's a bit nothing burger. 1549 01:43:23,070 --> 01:43:26,160 I've never said that. What are you talking about? I would never 1550 01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:38,700 use a Van Jones term ever. You bastard. You saved it an hour 1551 01:43:38,700 --> 01:43:42,480 and 43 minutes and you got me very good. You put out there 1552 01:43:42,480 --> 01:43:45,600 nothing. You had to do the nothing burger on me. I'll never 1553 01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:46,050 live it down. 1554 01:43:47,850 --> 01:43:50,130 Now, I thought was perfect time 1555 01:43:50,550 --> 01:43:54,150 very well. Well, this is 1556 01:43:54,150 --> 01:43:59,220 where this is where people would be like, Man, you get the 1557 01:43:59,220 --> 01:44:03,420 conviction. The lady says she meant to kill the man. And then 1558 01:44:03,420 --> 01:44:07,470 you get 10 years in it. And like I said, it can't be that quick 1559 01:44:07,470 --> 01:44:10,860 blue. One question on the timing. Yeah, did the judge come 1560 01:44:10,860 --> 01:44:14,070 down and hug her and give her personal Bible after the verdict 1561 01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:18,240 or after the conviction? After the sentencing after the 1562 01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:22,860 sourcing flower? Yes. Wow. And like I said, you had to look at 1563 01:44:22,860 --> 01:44:27,060 this in real time. This happened like in a 48 hour span. And this 1564 01:44:27,060 --> 01:44:30,480 is why this is a huge kick in the nuts to the black people 1565 01:44:30,480 --> 01:44:33,720 that were invested in this story. And this was I don't get 1566 01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,270 invested in the stories. Because 1567 01:44:36,330 --> 01:44:37,050 it's like 1568 01:44:40,110 --> 01:44:42,600 you get the conviction. You heard the joy of the big 1569 01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:47,760 krumping Tom Joyner Yeah, we did it. Yeah, we got her. And like 1570 01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:51,540 he's talking nine year death penalty. It's like, oh, man, we 1571 01:44:51,540 --> 01:44:54,210 got this rap in the bag. And it's like, did you get the 1572 01:44:54,210 --> 01:44:57,180 brother go up there doing it sentencing and it's all over you 1573 01:44:57,180 --> 01:45:00,990 too. It's like, oh, man, can you hit his clown? and you have the 1574 01:45:01,050 --> 01:45:06,810 lady bailiff consoling the shooter. But I mean, like, like 1575 01:45:06,810 --> 01:45:09,450 you would do a small child like rubbing her and it's the 1576 01:45:09,450 --> 01:45:12,450 imagery. I mean that's that's just colorist it's 1577 01:45:12,450 --> 01:45:16,050 just in but it's inappropriate in any case in any color. It's 1578 01:45:16,050 --> 01:45:18,960 inappropriate for officers of the court to conduct themselves 1579 01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:20,910 that way. Walking into 1580 01:45:20,910 --> 01:45:24,420 probate because what we talked about colorism listed where it 1581 01:45:24,420 --> 01:45:33,510 plays. You have a very dark skin bayleaf consoling a blond haired 1582 01:45:33,540 --> 01:45:38,250 white woman that is being kicked out guilty of murder the 1583 01:45:38,250 --> 01:45:41,910 imagery. I'm not like I said, I don't. I'm talking about what it 1584 01:45:41,910 --> 01:45:42,480 looks like. 1585 01:45:44,700 --> 01:45:47,100 It looks messed up is what it looks like. 1586 01:45:47,610 --> 01:45:51,390 And they you have Tammy come out. I'll first stand and say 1587 01:45:51,390 --> 01:45:53,130 here, child, here's my Bible. 1588 01:45:54,510 --> 01:45:58,350 I want you to read from every day. And then the lady gets 10 1589 01:45:58,380 --> 01:46:00,660 years. But wait, 1590 01:46:00,900 --> 01:46:03,360 there's more. No, no, no, I can't 1591 01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,000 handle more. key witness. 1592 01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:09,510 There is a murder mystery in Dallas tonight. A witness in the 1593 01:46:09,510 --> 01:46:13,230 trial of former police officer Amber Geiger was shot and killed 1594 01:46:13,230 --> 01:46:17,520 a Friday night. Joshua Brown's death comes 10 days after he 1595 01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,820 gave key testimony in that case, here's Mike Oliver. 1596 01:46:22,860 --> 01:46:23,700 Like we have one on the 1597 01:46:24,210 --> 01:46:28,230 Dallas Police a 27 year old Joshua brown suffered multiple 1598 01:46:28,230 --> 01:46:31,110 gunshot wounds and was found lying on the ground in the 1599 01:46:31,110 --> 01:46:34,680 parking lot of his apartment Friday night. Brown used to live 1600 01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:37,890 in the same apartment complex as former Dallas police officer 1601 01:46:37,890 --> 01:46:41,730 Amber Geiger and her victim. He was just across the hall from 1602 01:46:41,730 --> 01:46:47,520 Botham, John that night in September 2018. When Geiger said 1603 01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,940 she mistakenly walked into Shawn's apartment and shot him 1604 01:46:50,970 --> 01:46:56,790 with her service weapon. Just last week, Brown told the jury 1605 01:46:56,790 --> 01:47:00,300 he heard the interaction between Geiger and John followed by 1606 01:47:00,300 --> 01:47:01,380 gunshots 1607 01:47:01,500 --> 01:47:04,530 that detail one of the voices was getting loud to me as 1608 01:47:04,530 --> 01:47:12,240 livestock police or anything of that nature. That was my gun 1609 01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,220 pointed. And I'm saying Let me see 1610 01:47:14,220 --> 01:47:17,130 your hands. Let me see your hands. Geiger was sentenced to 1611 01:47:17,130 --> 01:47:21,360 10 years in prison. Dallas Police are still searching for a 1612 01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:24,960 suspect and a motive. Several witnesses say they saw a silver 1613 01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:28,200 four door sedan Speedway from the apartment complex. The 1614 01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:31,530 Dallas County prosecutor called Browns testimony brave and said 1615 01:47:31,530 --> 01:47:34,830 that he came forward to testify lane when others wouldn't still 1616 01:47:34,830 --> 01:47:35,400 so many 1617 01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:37,290 unanswered questions. Meg, thank you. 1618 01:47:38,730 --> 01:47:42,540 Oh my God, just so you know that to crime is one of the most 1619 01:47:42,540 --> 01:47:47,670 popular podcast categories right now. You've basically taken us 1620 01:47:47,670 --> 01:47:52,860 to the top of iTunes as far as I'm concerned. Because this you 1621 01:47:52,860 --> 01:47:56,430 can look at this many ways. But this kind of turns everything on 1622 01:47:56,430 --> 01:47:59,160 his head at the very end leaves us with questions 1623 01:47:59,190 --> 01:47:59,910 unanswered. 1624 01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:04,590 Conspiracy theories, no kidding. 1625 01:48:05,130 --> 01:48:08,430 Because we got to keep it going. So we can revisit the case every 1626 01:48:08,430 --> 01:48:13,290 year. And we can keep talking about it and keep making money 1627 01:48:13,290 --> 01:48:13,800 off of it. 1628 01:48:17,490 --> 01:48:20,820 People don't get invested in these stories. 1629 01:48:21,630 --> 01:48:24,540 You're being led along by the nose and you're being 1630 01:48:24,540 --> 01:48:29,520 manipulated and it's all about money for everybody. Almost 1631 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:37,260 everybody involved in this unbelievable well, as much fun 1632 01:48:37,260 --> 01:48:42,900 as I had during the show. I need to take a shower and I need to 1633 01:48:43,980 --> 01:48:48,180 calm down. This is very disturbing. And it's it's really 1634 01:48:48,180 --> 01:48:52,170 disturbing how this played out and a won't stop. It just will 1635 01:48:52,170 --> 01:48:55,740 keep on going now with this, because we have the guy saying 1636 01:48:55,740 --> 01:48:58,290 something that doesn't fit the sentencing doesn't fit the 1637 01:48:58,290 --> 01:49:01,770 conviction doesn't fit the scenario that was painted for 1638 01:49:01,770 --> 01:49:02,790 us. Oh, and he's dead. 1639 01:49:04,380 --> 01:49:08,490 There the lead witness chased the lead witnesses ended up dead 1640 01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:15,510 shot days after the sentencing. But there's hope because I don't 1641 01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:18,840 want to leave people on a down note. Okay. If you don't 1642 01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:23,850 participate in this, these shows. And that's why I opened 1643 01:49:23,850 --> 01:49:28,770 this up this podcast up with saying they sold us tours as a 1644 01:49:28,770 --> 01:49:33,570 movie. It's just gonna be another movie another 1645 01:49:33,570 --> 01:49:38,940 blockbuster. Don't participate. turn the television off. If you 1646 01:49:38,940 --> 01:49:42,210 want to help people deal with one on one to one relation just 1647 01:49:42,210 --> 01:49:45,420 like me you do Adam. We can't hear how the conversation man 1648 01:49:45,420 --> 01:49:49,710 you. You know we push back on each other on our perspective 1649 01:49:49,710 --> 01:49:53,940 perspectives and you made me understand where you're coming 1650 01:49:53,940 --> 01:49:56,460 from and I shot to make you understand where I was coming 1651 01:49:56,460 --> 01:50:00,990 from and where, how they're able to play On our pullout 1652 01:50:00,990 --> 01:50:04,140 heartstrings not let them 1653 01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:07,890 and as it turns out, it's it's very possible for people of 1654 01:50:07,890 --> 01:50:10,830 different backgrounds to have normal conversations and talk 1655 01:50:10,830 --> 01:50:15,480 through stuff. Very much so but not with the help of the 1656 01:50:15,480 --> 01:50:20,940 mainstream media with elite structures in general. 1657 01:50:22,110 --> 01:50:23,520 And it's up to us, 1658 01:50:23,670 --> 01:50:26,010 I mean, not just you and I but to everybody you're right, you 1659 01:50:26,010 --> 01:50:31,620 got you got to stay away from this stuff or look at work on 1660 01:50:31,620 --> 01:50:35,280 looking at it with open eyes as to what's really going on 1661 01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,410 because you're not just seeing something unfold in front of 1662 01:50:37,410 --> 01:50:40,590 you, you are being pulled in and becoming a part of the story. We 1663 01:50:40,590 --> 01:50:44,070 heard it there that you're a part of the story when you're 1664 01:50:44,070 --> 01:50:47,640 out protesting and screaming and outraged and from all sides, 1665 01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:51,510 you're being drawn in it's it's very meta, but you're part of 1666 01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:55,620 the drama, and it's only benefiting in most cases, big 1667 01:50:55,620 --> 01:50:59,220 corporations who set out to manipulate you to get the money 1668 01:50:59,220 --> 01:51:03,960 in the first place. Whilst that's, that's right. Well, 1669 01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:07,560 speaking of which, we're podcasters. So we make no money 1670 01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:12,540 out of the deal. Every everyone's making bank. All we 1671 01:51:12,540 --> 01:51:15,900 asked for that you consider if you got any value out of this, 1672 01:51:16,500 --> 01:51:19,950 this show and this conversation that we're having, and we'd love 1673 01:51:19,950 --> 01:51:23,310 for you to a show that value by going to MoeFundMe.com 1674 01:51:23,340 --> 01:51:30,090 moefundme.com Or just go to MoeFactz.com and consider 1675 01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:33,180 supporting the show and the work and Moe I once again I got to 1676 01:51:33,180 --> 01:51:37,890 thank you for an excellently produced show. You bring it 1677 01:51:37,890 --> 01:51:41,340 every single time and I really, really appreciate it Moreover, 1678 01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:44,460 because this is exactly what I was talking about my very own 1679 01:51:44,460 --> 01:51:48,450 house, I had no idea and if you read my mind, you helped me and 1680 01:51:48,450 --> 01:51:52,140 I know that my wife is smiling in the car right now going like 1681 01:51:52,350 --> 01:51:55,260 now I know what's going on and boy am I glad that I've gotten 1682 01:51:55,260 --> 01:52:00,000 Moe factz to take me by the hand and lead me down the journey of 1683 01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:00,960 the correct path. 1684 01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:06,870 Well, as I always say, pay attention to everything and the 1685 01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:08,400 truth will reveal itself 1686 01:52:08,550 --> 01:52:12,059 and we'll be back next Monday with another episode of Moe 1687 01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:15,814 Factz with Adam curry check us out. MoeFactz.com Talk to you 1688 01:52:15,876 --> 01:52:16,800 next Monday Moe 1689 01:52:17,970 --> 01:54:38,190 alright see you next Monday Adam